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Good morning and welcome to Dota 2 at the Esports World Cup.
We're live from Paris and we got a lot of cool things coming your way today
as it is the first day of the playoffs.
And if you thought survival stage was brutal,
well, that brutality is just going to continue with a single elimination bracket.
Some bangers on the agenda as well.
Some bangers sitting next to me here as well.
I am joined by BSJ and Seb.
BSJ in the morning. Good morning.
Yeah, it's nice to be back, Sheever.
I'm very excited for today's series.
There were some cool upsets yesterday,
and now that we've got two teams of, I would say,
somewhat equal caliber, I'm excited for whatever result we get.
Yeah, we have got some cool stuff coming your way.
Some crowd already gathering here, as well said.
How are you doing for playoffs?
I'm great.
This is, I mean, it's a big day, but to me,
this is like the big game, I have to say.
I think today we're going to get to see Yandex versus Spirit,
which I think could have been the Grand Finals.
So we really have to enjoy it as much as, you know,
while it lasts, because it's not gonna be the Grand Finals.
One of these teams is going home,
which is crazy to think.
Yeah.
Defending title defenders versus,
I think at this point, the absolute favorites.
So yeah, I don't know, it's going to be wild.
It is going to be wild yesterday, also was wild.
We could take a look at the SDC rewind
to see what happened yesterday on this stream.
Don't worry, we'll talk about the other stream as well.
But on this stream, we had, as we heard Chris say earlier, a fan favourite got eliminated, said.
Yeah, we lost Team Liquid yesterday. Pretty intense series, to be honest.
I think they really put up a fight. They didn't really trash all of the tournament or anything like that.
But again, they were facing Team Spirit. They're defending their titles here for reason.
It's just really hard, like both these teams we know really rise up when it comes to high pressure games, you know
The biggest stage of the year of the season and they both came to play only one could come on top
It's very sad that we see liquid out that early in the tournament, but at the same time, you know
There's never gonna be a shame losing to Jim Stewart
Yeah, I think big team spirit being the one that knocks them out. I mean that is you gotta respect that Brian
Yeah, I mean as a Dota commentator
I'm so accustomed to the double elimination format where if you have one series where you get pat paired against a
formidable opponent pretty early on and you maybe
Don't show up your best or you just lose the effective best of one for your entire life by going to game three
That you have a chance to come back, but to say yeah, they're just gone. They're going home
I think we're creating a lot more storylines, and I'm honestly
Obviously, much more entertained when there's this much at stake in every single game-chiever.
Yeah, we also had a series between a BB Team and LGD.
A rough one for LGD, they got eliminated 2 and 0.
And there were moments of the games where we thought, you know, they kind of got it,
but then BB Team at the end of the day said, just too strong.
I think BB Team is just getting stronger every day.
Every time we see them, they seem to be better than the last time.
As for LGD, unfortunately, I think it's on the other direction.
I think it's fair to say that yesterday was not their best showing,
and that team has a lot more to offer than what was shown,
especially in game two, but also game one.
I think they didn't see them as much on the same page as BB team,
and I think when you face a team on that calibrary,
you just can't afford to have that happen.
And off day, especially with this format,
you just can't afford to have enough series.
that you're just out. Yeah, that series I think had the two most
likable carry players, like in the entire eSports scene for
Dota 2. I love Yuma. I love watching Kiritich. Both have
great attitudes, both bring a lot to their team. And every
time we talk about a team going on, it's like, dang, that's
crazy to think that top eight is we're already missing such a
key rosters. Yeah, we are also not just missing the key
rosters. We're also now not really missing the key, but we
definitely destroyed some keys yesterday as a tournament of
survival bracket has come to a close. We see the four teams that moved forward, and we didn't really touch up on what happened on the other side of the bracket, but it was Runeaters, Brian, that was victorious against Aurora, and not just victorious, they two outed them, and it wasn't close.
I think it's important to note that that series, most of the time we talk about what did the better team do wrong, or like what happened that this fluke occurred, it literally looked like Runeaters was the better team.
Like if you didn't, if you just put a blindfold over both of the team's names and we're watching in a game objectively,
you just go, oh yeah, those guys just look better.
And Runeater's really stepping up, you mentioned the fact that some of these teams like BB Team are peaking at the right time.
Runeater's came out of nowhere. They got dead last in the TI qualifiers.
So like, it's not like they came into this tournament with a lot of momentum.
This is their last opportunity of the year to put on a showing and they're doing just that.
You say last opportunity, I think they only formed in June.
So it's also their first opportunity.
And then there was another upset, of course, here on the second series that you see from the top.
It is Vici Gaming, Seb, that made it through yesterday against another favorite of 1W.
Massive upset, massive upset this one. Honestly, I think it came as a shock to pretty much everyone,
like all the other teams and probably to 1W. But again, Vici Gaming, you look at the team and you look at the names.
You know, you have ZinQ, for instance, he was in the last TI finals.
He was playing for Extreme back then, but there's an immense amount of experience.
We know that new star players shine when these kinds of games come to them.
And this is what we're going to expect from the series today also.
Yandex here, it's like a little bit of insider information here.
Yandex has been terrorizing everybody in scrims, and not only in scrims,
they crushed their group, they had great results.
Obviously, a lot of momentum coming into this event.
So everybody's looking at them and it's like, who's going to be good enough to take them down?
Well, again, like if I had to pick one team in the world, and I want to put them on the stage versus the team that nobody can beat,
it's like, I would actually select Team Spirit, you know, and we're getting that game today, and I'm like, sure, okay, you were,
you look great and you look unbeatable, but I'm going to give you some, your Toro, some collect, collect, you know, prime on stage in front of an audience can deal with that.
So I think all the games in that playoff bracket now that, you know, this very last sequence, it's only going to be bangers.
You don't want to miss any of them and just enjoy, you know, like the best door and the word being played
Yeah, and it's only one stream from here or not as well
So you're not missing anything you can just sit right here and you already heard us talking about it
I mean we had to choose between following a big underdog story with p-vision and runeaters or
Choosing for our Sony story of the day
Spirit versus Yandex we had to choose spirit versus young Yandex. It is the ground quarter finals, right?
Yeah, as said mentioned earlier, this could quite possibly have been the quarter or the grand finals if there was a double elimination format
Or if there's just different opponents that you find in the bracket for me these two teams
I think for if you're you're a new spectator coming in you haven't seen the index and why they're so formidable as said was talking about
I would call them like the best of gaming gladiators and tundra coming together where you have like the farm efficiency game
That Watson and socks have always played but then you also have this like their wins in the group stage
were up until the very last win of the series of the 10 games that they played
where all 33 minutes are less they play so fast tempo they get that early lead
and they punish you quick and I don't want to be playing it so that's all I
could say out of all the teams they do look the absolute scariest and I'm so
happy we get to see the team spirit facing them today. Yeah we're gonna have
have a great series and now that the bracket is also all known I think it
should be pretty maybe not that simple but it's doable maybe for you to get your
Tournament winner pickings in on the website. It is esportsworkup.com. Make sure to
predict who you think will take it as I am sure that maybe the two teams that we're going to see
first might just see the road all the way. But you got to choose one of the two. And I think this
is going to be a tough choice for sure. And of course, later down the line, now you got to follow
the understock story. Are you going to believe in Rune-Agers making it all the way? There's a lot
of questions that we will of course get the answers to with the games that we're about to see.
But we also just decided to do a little journalistic digging to find out what the pro players thought,
who they thought would be the strongest opponents here. So let's find out.
I mean, I think we can do really great, but to be honest, this year is so tough. There are so
So many good teams right now. This year they had this year of the entire lot I was ever seeing.
I don't feel any pressure about the title or something like that. I don't think it's...
Yeah, I think a lot of these teams, they underestimate us and you know, we'll see if we can surprise some people.
I would say the strongest team for now is Jandex. Jandex and Blast was pretty cool.
The players play well, and I think it's the best one for now.
You can name like Pindre Yandex maybe, top one, top two,
but at the same time there are many other teams that want to do trophies this year so far.
And they can beat anyone on the EWC.
Going to this EWC we're just going to smash everyone, we are super prepared.
We for sure consider ourselves the underdogs, like, yep.
I feel a little sad for WS
You can't blame them like you know
It happens, you know, you have to come with a lot of confidence
I mean you have these interviews before the games like it's easy after to look back and be like oh, you know
They thought this would happen and the opposite happened like I think you're meant to come with a lot of confidence
And sometimes you're very well prepared, but you know what happens on stage is always different like you can't really expect it
Yeah, nobody said Roon Eaters or Vici Gaming in their list of teams to look out the most for.
Maybe that's why. And they're topping. Exactly.
We are going to focus our attention on the first series of the day with Team Spirits and Yandex.
It is basically a Grand Finals, best of three here potentially. We'll see how far these teams
can go. But I am expecting a very close match because we are seeing Team Spirit power up.
But I think the main question that I have, coming into this quarterfinals,
is that Jannex hasn't played since Sunday.
No, they haven't.
Well, they have played, but they've not played officials.
Right, they've played streams, but I think that team is so established.
They're so well oiled that I don't think it matters.
Because you think of the teams that need to learn a little more.
They looked a little bit shaky or searching for their identity in the roof stage,
and you're like, maybe it's not that good that they didn't get to play,
and said they're just watching, but for Yandex, I think it's a little bit different.
They are D-team to be. They're trans-setters, they define the meta because they're just
so much better than everybody else. In terms of how well they play together, how clear they are
on how they want to approach these games and how they want to execute them, so I wouldn't be as
worried if anything, they didn't get to show as much as the other teams, and I'm sure people want
info from what do they think is best, like what do they let through the bull, how do they counter
the heroes that we've seen beyond the Uprising or not.
Yeah, it will be very strategic when we come to that draft.
It will be a treat to watch that alone as well.
As for Yandex, team we're focusing on here first.
Of course, they've made a big splash this year.
It's the first year that this team has been on the big stage and instant results.
Also, the same goes for their newest addition, which also, of course, is DME student for Yandex
already earlier, got a title there.
It seems to fit in perfectly.
Let's find out how DM feels in Yandex.
It was amazing to join the Yandex because I play in a team
which is full of high school players and a great personality.
So I'm very happy for this opportunity.
The difference of a Yandex team compared to my all other teams
is that here people are the most professional
in terms of communicating to each other, in terms of playing,
in terms of approaching the game.
I think I learned a lot, being in this team already, even so it was like only the ones or something.
Because when you play Dota was really the first year in the whole year single day.
And I think that's what's happening here.
I'm getting new concepts, getting new ideas and empowering the ideas I have.
I think I'm getting better.
I think it's better to not think about any team, like I don't care, the nickname quiz is going to be like Githura or like Manfrill playing the chairplay for like no.
It's just where I play against girls and not in a down spot, which we're going to play against.
We did not win this episode yet.
It's early to think about winning the event and I'm focused on playing the playoffs.
I'm just focused on doing my best and it's going to be enough.
Well, that's great.
And there's been a little bit of musical chairs going on with some of the offlaners this season
and DM was one of those players that has been on different teams this year,
this year, but it does seem that being in Yandex, Brian, he seems to have leveled up
and it seems to fit him really well.
Yeah, every team in the drafting strategical side of things needs that one player that
you're often going to give them their hero early.
It's going to be somewhat defining of the way you play the game, but you're just going
to need to trust that whatever lane we give this guy, whatever situation he's thrown
into, he'll make it work and DMs that guy.
I think he works really well with Watson, who often takes his hero later.
Chirijun is great at counterpicking in the mid lane.
And I just think he enables his other cores in the drafting stage and in game so much.
It just makes sense. It's such a great fit.
For those who are not that familiar with the Undex, the players,
because obviously they really came out at that level pretty recently.
So, I mean, to me,
Chira Jr. is like the X factor of that team.
In a sense, I think he's the least known players out of those names.
And he's exceptionally good.
Like, to me, he's the queen of CIS Dora.
Like, he has, his macro is impeccable.
Like, he has an insanely good understanding of what's happening on the sidelines,
when to move, when to farm, when to control runes, and he does it so smoothly.
So I think he's an exceptional mid player. I think one of the best in the world,
like top three easily right now in terms of performances. Then you have DM, like extremely
stable, takes, you know, always delivers the performance that he needs to deliver,
sets up what's on, as you said, for a lot of success, also frees up Saksa for what he wants to do.
Like Saksa is a very macro oriented player, like he's always going to get the stacks down,
and play with his mid laner when he needs to.
So the whole synergy is there.
There's also Malady and Watson,
they've been playing together for a while as a laning duo.
They were playing on Gaming Glide Error together,
got two Grand Finals together.
So that team, it just makes a lot of sense.
And the more you see them, the more you realize.
That synergy, we can also find that synergy
in their opponents today,
because Team Spirit, when you're saying synergy,
they are so synergistic
and they have reached the biggest of stages
because of that.
Of course, they are the Kadea title defenders.
knocking out the best teams in the world without dropping a single game.
The team has been through some changes since the eSports World Cup last year
and their current roster consists of utoro, law, collapse, not me,
Rue and with Moposhka returning as their new coach.
While they've had a rocky few months,
a constant team spirit is that you can never underestimate them
in extremely high stakes events, where other teams fall due to pressure.
Team Spirit arrives.
Esports World Cup 2026 will be a chance for Team Spirit to prove that this still holds true.
Team Spirit is considered one of the best organizations at scouting talent,
Seb, because they got NotMe, who has only joined very recently.
This is his fourth tier one event in his career.
And he is just mashing in as if it's just a normal Tuesday.
It's actually Wednesday, Thursday.
I mean, every time they make a change, you know, it started with
Lark coming in for Toronto Tokyo.
You're like, oh, that's a tough one.
They just want you with Toronto Tokyo.
Like this guy has like been one of the best in the world, like big shoes to fill.
And then he just makes you forget, you know, and the same happened with Roo.
you know stepping in for Mira
Everybody's like, is that the right choice?
Every time you're like really, you're actually making a change
and how's that young up and coming player going to...
It's tough to be in that position but they seem to have a really nice support system
and nice way to integrate these players and make them comfortable
and all is the same, it's like you have not me, you have a rule, they're very young
both of them, I think the youngest on their teams are the support
which is very unconventional
Usually it's the core players, you know, like the supports are the cores are like the flashy young fast, you know
Fast hands and do the supports are like the old guys that have been there forever kind of under the radar
Team spirit is the opposite is pretty well. Yeah for me. It's
We always talk about the mental side of Dota 2 and somehow with team spirit
They bring in these players who it is a high pressure situation
You've got big shoes to fill and then at the same time they maintain the identity of team spirit
I called in the Doctor Strange team early on in this tournament
because there's a million different permutations.
They find themselves down by 30K.
There's only one way to win this game,
and they somehow managed to just kind of wait by their time.
And then the one time that you step out of position,
they're going to be the best team at punishing you for doing that.
And the fact that Maposhka came back,
I think this team was lacking the leadership throughout the course of the year.
They've made a lot of those roster swaps over the last couple of years,
but I don't think anything has hit them as hard as Maposhka specifically.
I think he was such a pivotal leader on that team.
and seeing him come back, we're definitely seeing them back in their old form, and not me as settled in quite well.
I'll never forget his first game that I watched of him playing Rubik and stealing a ravage into a Winter's Curson,
literally winning the game, and I was like, okay, this guy's gonna fit right in.
Yeah, he has certainly delivered here on the stage as well. I believe yesterday we did name him the MVP
on the series when they were playing against you, Liquid.
The question I have for this quad is, do you feel like they've leveled up enough to face Yandex here on the stage?
I think so, and this is a statement, you know, to me, this is the clash of the two carry Titans in a sense, like there's Yatoro, obviously, he doesn't need, he needs no introduction.
And then there's Watson. I think this guy has been ranked one on the leaderboards for years.
He's been in Yatoro's shadow because it's just hard to have a spot, you know, under the sun when there's Yatoro on the scene.
This is the time to kind of prove himself like I am the best in the world.
Well, we're going to find out which one of these two teams will actually survive today.
It is time for our playoff day to get started and we are starting with
The Grand Quarter Finals on the stage.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another beautiful day of EWC X playoffs.
How we doing today?
Oh, baby, baby, that crowd is alive and I am up here with the greatest of all time.
Mr. Milo, it's good to see you again, bruh-uh.
Same here, my friend.
Today we warmed up, we're ready to go
because we kicked off all the ones that are good,
but now we're at the teams that are truly great.
Hey, it's survival, it's tough.
Groups, they were tough from now on.
It's all quarterfinals, all the way to this final.
There are no second chances for any one of our teams
still left at the Esports World Cup 2026 Dota Edition.
Last year, you got heated up in the bracket.
I can tell you that I was lucky enough
to witness it for myself,
You were there as well slaps. I was here and screams all around the venue
But here the screams continue and they torture us at nights at times
But that is a subject for another day because our teams they've already been tortured up to this point
You saw the keys that were crushed over the past few days. It continues today. So let's bring out our teams already
Yeah, they're ready
I'm in the wayings our first team jumping up on stage is team
And here they are, Yandex are back at it again on the stage.
We haven't seen them in a few days.
You know why?
Well, they topped their group and they were so happy with that performance, having only
dropped a singular game in the group stage.
And here they're back up on this plank here.
They're walking it and they're ready to go.
From this point on, there are no second chances in health.
are Brazilians, in the arena they are cheering for Team Yandex, international
cheers for Team Yandex, top that slacks. I mean on what top that you're about to
see a team top that my friends. Yandex might have won almost everything this
year but this team doesn't really care. You know what let the peasants have
their little tournaments because this dragon only wakes up when it's time for
the real gold baby. They've been building energy, they've been coming back from the
groups put their hands together for Team Spirit!
Talk about Spirit, everybody counts this team out and then they come to these tournaments
and they just destroy.
The story repeats every year and we must ask ourselves if they will repeat one more time.
Absolutely incredible, the crowd is going absolutely bonkers for them because you know
This is going to be the match to beat.
You've got the guys who won last year,
the guys who won everything this year,
but only one gets to continue.
Oh boy, I cannot wait for this one then.
Let's not dilly-dally, please.
Team Spirit, please, Yandex, you may place your keys, gentlemen,
and prepare to do battle.
This one that we've all been waiting for,
and honestly, you get every single game in a quarterfinals.
Oh boy.
Oh, hey!
Every single game in a quarter-final is going to be of anger,
and this one is a hell of a match to get it all started.
That's us here on stage.
There's the panel waiting for you. Let's get it started.
Until now, some teams have created a surprise, and others have fallen.
At this stage, only the strongest survive.
There are only a few days left before a team mortals its name and enters the legend,
adding their tea to the theme of the WC and their name in the book of the seven.
The teams will make their club and their fans proud by fighting for the trophy.
They will have no choice but to do so, because there is no escape.
The play-offs begin now.
Team Spirit and Team Yandex very soon the draft will be upon us between these two teams
and it's time for us to get into the nitty gritty of things because the strategy coming
out from both of these teams will be of utmost importance in this best of three elimination
series. PSJ, what are you going to look for in the draft that will be there soon?
So the index, they have a lot of surprise picks like they whipped out of Flex, Lena in
the last game against 1W, but at the same time, Watson has only predominantly played
three heroes, the Kez, the Drow and the PL, but all three represent like a very different
playstyle. Kez is that early mid-game aggression.
Drow is that lane oppression, and to just stomping you from that direction.
And then PL is the, okay, we're willing to go down 5k by 20 minutes,
and we will stall out the game team spirit style and beat you later.
For me, it's all about how do we approach the fact that their game plan is very versatile,
because for team spirit, they traditionally don't invest all that much in lanes.
It's not like they give up that stage of the game.
But for me, they're always putting themselves where they will scale better.
But Yandex, I think, can attack you at all fronts.
So if I'm Team Spirit, I'm thinking I want to play my own game.
I'd look to see, OK, Watson has one of these three types of win conditions.
Which one do we want to give them?
Pick your poison so you know what you're coming up against.
To me, like the key question mark I'd have for Yandex is,
are they do they also have the character, you know,
because like I think these kind of series and these type of games.
You might end up in a situation that's like not normal, you know, like you might
be pushed really to your limits and the boundaries of what you
What you've experienced as a team and spirit they've been there
They've been there so many you know back into all best of five game five you think of ti you think of EWC like it's happened to them
So many times and they've proven that
They have an internet amount of resources and I'm talking about the mental side of things and I don't think yandex
They've been there yet
This could be a series where they get that side of what you need in order to be a championship team gets tested. It's like
you've done everything well and all of a sudden collapse, snatches the Aegis and now you just
presented with a game where you're playing from behind and you don't deserve to play from behind
and Spirit is getting you know picking up some steam and are you able to play that game too?
Are you able to show the character to find resources, to stay strong, to weather the storm?
This is the question I think they might have to answer today in order to prove that yes they
have what it takes to go the distance.
And as DM said, he said, we've won a lot,
but we were yet to get these kind of trophies.
So today is going to be the best test you could ever ask for.
Getting team spirit in a single elimination situation.
Yeah, absolutely.
For me, the factor that you're talking about the way
I interpret it is, at any point in the game,
you have this idea of what the game should look like,
what your timings were, what the formula for closing
this game out is.
and sometime i think it's the ultimate to just say like screw the formula
we're gonna throw that wrench in there and you're gonna have to figure out how
to apply your formula in a completely new setting completely new circumstances
collapse i think he's
he's blowing minds with how many times he's not today just like you gave a
hypothetical but i think it's more likely to see that at least one time in
this series as opposed to not
i think it's a great question that you post for team yet i personally think
that they're prepared
i really liked the end's mindset overall when he was communicating in the
interviews
leading into this series about the way they think about the game.
I think expecting to have no expectations is the best route against Team Spirit
because you just never know what you're going to be against.
100% you know, collapse, stealing Aegis.
How many times have we seen your Toro pick up a DV
and all of a sudden you know bringing them back from a 20k deficit?
You have to be ready for this kind of gaming theory index.
So you know this question will be answered pretty soon.
We see the draft develop already.
We're going to get you know the the hardest takes in the Doros scene I guess
on what is good, the index very much trans-setters at this point because they've been dominating
and everybody's looking at what they play and how they play it, so they will decide to go with
the first big profit, which we haven't seen really so far in this revival stage, not once I think.
We've seen Saksa play it once for them, it's obviously we've seen it play mid by some teams,
I can only assume that it's an option for them and then obviously Watson profit,
that's an absolute classic also. I don't know how much he's played at the tournament yet,
but he's played it in the past and very comfortable on the hero. So very open and flex big for them.
I'll never... So Prophet has a bunch of different identities in terms of what he offers to the
game. There was the patch where he was mainly about maxing out the Sprouts and ganking with that.
Nowadays you're maxing out the trance and when Soxa played, he's played it twice so far this
event. I do believe they have the option to flex it between Cher Junior Watson and Soxa, but
I'll never forget watching Soxa, he's 13 minutes in there, winning the game, and he
teepied to the enemy tier 3 tower in front of the carry and denied creeps in front of him.
Like that was what he did with his time, and I'm like, okay, this is such a Soxa thing to do.
This hero is very annoying. The thing about what they do on GnX is they throw this threat out,
this problem that you have to address, and then it can come in many different forms. Is it the
carry profit that's going to go for the Mjolnir carry items? Or is it going to be the support
nature's profit that goes earn into silver edge and plays for ganks and macro around the map you
just don't really know what to expect you have to account for all of them be prepared for all of
them but also like stick to your own game plan at the same time and to me the earth spirit pick
of spirit is interesting i think it's a little bit risky in the sense that i mean obviously a great
hero okay they do ban the solder because like i was gonna say we've seen answers developed against
this earth spirit myth because it was probably the the first hero that really broke through in
in this tournament where we started seeing it everywhere and it was dominating.
And this is when the Slaughter mid started to appear.
The Lina mid also made a comeback mainly because of this matchup because people are looking
for options to shut down the Earth Spirit and to stop his map domination.
Is this a Lina game for Shira Junior?
Is it not?
They took away the Slaughter which I think is a really good ban from Team Spirit.
And the Voker's also out.
These are like the three most common answers we've seen so far against Earth Spirit.
Yeah, you were talking about how well sheer juniors been performing. I had my first
Instance of watching Earthspear versus Slardar mid. I've since seen it like three or four more times
Sheer junior jumped on the Earthspear like it was like double up on CS two levels ahead
There's a reason that they're banning it and then all the other times I watched the matchup
It really wasn't that bad for Earthspear like it made me go like 60 40
But he still had a game
So there's some x factor that sheer junior brings to the table where I would be a bit nervous like you said to open up with
especially with you basically remove the flex potential of it that usually it is flexed between two and four hoodwinks
Most likely the four so now like you cheer junior
He has he's ripe for the picking when it comes to counterpicks and he's got a lot of them up his sleeve
I have to say I'm a really big fan of the indexes drafts already. I feel like these are like just
Really good heroes right now like these heroes they already have so much like they have very strong leading presence absurd actually like on-dying profits
even Centaur very dominant laner and these heroes right now are as good as as good as
Like in the early game
Then like and same with the late game presence because I'm thinking of profit late game
We've seen centaur, you know with the heart built with the cart eventually on dying also
I think scales incredibly well in the game now especially from a support position where all of a sudden you have to deal with the court
Like he's just a very well around the drafts already that by index
Yeah, they can pick
Another range carry if they wanted to I'm mostly having my eyes this series don't know if it will come out this game on the
The leaner I think what's in so far is the only one that played it on the carry roll and it looked so good
Of course, he's also the one that
Started the whole trend when it was a common meta pick
So he used that to be 1w in the group stage and actually shiro copied it yesterday
They they picked leaner early on and then flexed it to carry and and also be 1w with that
You guys have been saying a lot of witch doctor on the mainstream
No, from you talked about the level 20 talent said that gives a percent based healing
Combined with all these high HP heroes even earth spear as a core doesn't really build strength
Focused items, but we'll end up with like 3k 4k plus HP as the game goes on
I think for me at least when I look at the witch doctor as a centaur
Solution is that centaur is often he's rushing heart
You can't really kill him in the mid game because you drop them down a half
But hard as an item has been reworked where it gives you more region as you drop lower, but the Maladik that's actually going to finish you off
So I think one of the few supports in the game that actually
represents a gank duo or trio
That can bring down a centaur with a hard like early to mid game. It's a very good matchup for for which doctor
I think the case also fairs pretty well against the center on the lane like this which doctor case lane is a
Cableing to go against so a very strong tape lane, you know on on spirit side
I think the index at this point that's it. They're pretty much committed. I mean actually they could still pick a Watson hero to be fair
It could be profit and center
I'm not the biggest fan of profit and dying support duo, but maybe amber
Fixes it in a sense. It's a very good amber game. I think
like absurdly good amber game if you ask me like both these supports are
Quite bad against amber like which doctor and who doing they hate getting chained
They just die if they encounter Ember and Ember is going to have a lot of help
You know stampede profit global help profitability eventually even on dying
It's just like a menace running around together is so much damage between the case or rip and and the Ember spells
So I have to say that I'm I'm big fan of the index to drive. I think spirit have a very solid draft tool, but
They're gonna have to figure out, you know a very strong 24 pick and it's going to have to be collapse
And I don't think we've seen offlaners really
use utilize that last pick as much because safe lanes are just so strong these days that it's just
they're usually struggling off laners like in the first 10 minutes of the game so I just wonder
how team spirit is going to be able to bring this back like in the draft. Yeah I'm thinking why
ban the Viper because are you thinking maybe it's like a collapsed earth spirit flex to dominate this
earth spirit? Is there a particular carry that you're wanting to pick like Spectre or something
that would suffer against Viper? This is a weird ban to me, so I don't know what we could do.
Yeah, indeed. I don't know, actually. Collapse Earth Spirit? I don't think I've ever seen that.
Yeah, it's like if it's not a flex Earth Spirit, then the offlane Viper has to scare you for some
reason. Maybe it's one of the few offlaners that can actually undying 5 out of the lane with
like combination with Hoodwink. Yeah, that's a pretty good point. I think it's a good thing
that team spirit hasn't used any of their bonus time because this conundrum they can spend a lot
of time on this if they wanted to. I would be confused by that. Oh they're gonna have to but
it is very confusing this Viper band they're definitely giving something. Maybe it's a way
to shut down the undying position 5 and they're just afraid of the landing presence because at
this point I do think that like team spirit they need a little bit more you know early game
presence on the lanes, because I don't think this Ursprit will have the best game.
We'll have to see how the matchup goes, because we're getting now to the later stages of the tournament,
so these midlaners are absolutely dominant, and they execute their lanes perfectly.
My book is that Ursprit should have the upper hand on Ember,
for the first 5-6 minutes of the game.
It starts turning when Ember gets level 7, level 8 eventually,
And obviously when he gets to Mates there, now it's a whole different story, but I do think that if Larl, you know,
executes the lane properly,
maybe he can just
have a pretty dominant start and maybe it's just good enough to play for Sember.
I mean, I'm curious if the Vandex
elects to go for the Watson Phantom Lancer. I know it's not the most amazing synergy with Undying and Lane,
but they've willingly picked it into counter picks like Axe and the Offlane.
They've blind picked it as well, and I don't think
Team Spirit Straf deals with it particularly well because yeah
He has like one spell that hits AOE
But the rest of his stuff you can pretty easily dispel his damage over time. They're running mid laners, huh?
You're right there. They think it's the flex. That's weird
Very unusual
Maybe okay, so what I have seen some of these teams do is that they think if you leave that hero as is
they're gonna win. So even if they think that's probably a Urspiribid but the
one way that the curveball you could throw us like we've seen it where they
ban off-laners even though they've already picked an off-laner because if
you know they have a Largo and they're like we're gonna ban off-laners anyways
because unless you pick a summons guy we're gonna be able to beat you. Yeah so
I think it might be kind of hedging that might be their statement of with the
draft as is we're gonna win. It's like their only way out. Yes exactly. Yeah it
makes sense in that case I'm just I mean I wouldn't be surprised that collapse
can play or I mean this guy's so talented he probably can play anything but
it's definitely something we haven't seen from him in the past so it'll be cool
I mean I'm kind of hyped for collapse Earthspirits just to get to watch that
something new we have two carry bands coming out from Team Spirit both the TA
and the entire light now out so so far Team Spirit's read is that that
nature's profit will be in the hands of Saxon but that is something that Jan
next role revealed to us in about a
Well, they have about a minute so they can take about a minute. I'm just thinking a little bit more more thing
I don't think it's the best matchup versus switchluck there
But I think it's pretty good against Kaz and he used to be like a go-to against Earth spirit like for carry players because
Once you start getting, you know, you get your ulti. Okay, they go from your honor. This is interesting
So I guess it's just going to be a socks on your honor and they will just play the profit position one
It is a pretty good profit game position one in my opinion like he has such a
dominant like support duo with the Ember spirit which is it's a pretty free
Ember game I have to say so there's gonna be a lot of you know opportunities
to TP a lot of info from the map which is I think how pro where profit
strives like when you have when you play with profit like you really want your
team to be active around the match that you can safely TP to places because you
just know that they can't stop you from farming these camps and eventually you
get so far ahead that it doesn't really matter which matchup you have like
carry mech of yours. He is so fun that you just win as profit. It doesn't matter.
Kaz, Pector, you name it. You just have to much gold.
So yeah, most of the time, Profit will leave the lane around level 5 or 6, start farming
the two camps above his tower, and he'll want to rotate back to lane situationally if the
opponent's shown that they're somewhere else. But I actually think he's very susceptible
to carry rotations through the gate because that is where he wants to linger, and Kaz
is great at doing this. So I have a bit concerned for this 5-8 minute window for the nature's
profit what his role in the game is going to be so I think it's gonna the
reason why I am concerned is because I think the centaur is gonna struggle in
lane against this witch Dr. Kes and as a carry I'm always thinking if the off
lane is gonna struggle that's gonna spill into my lane they end up going for
a collapsed tide hunter yeah which is also what I was saying earlier it's like
sure you have less pick off lane but I think in this meta you're laning versus
undying profit it's like one of the most toxic lanes you could ever go to so you
have less pick but as an off lane he's probably like I don't know what I want
play against that. I see a lot of good picks, but I can't enter the lane. So you end up
going for Tide, which I think is going to be a very rough lane for Tide, like Undying,
which is very good for Undying. We'll have to see Tide who will win. At some point it's
going to start being okay. If they get some stacks and Tide gets levels, I think as soon
as you get level 5, he can start entering the lane and being okay with it. But I think
Spirit will have the scaling lineup for sure, or Spirit Tide cares cores. And on Yandex's
If they're really far ahead, as I said, Prophet will outscale any hero if he's, you know, far ahead in gold,
but they have to make the early game stuff happen, in my opinion, with this lineup.
Yeah, in my experience, the more polarized the lanes are in terms of strength,
the more action happens in the early game because teams, it doesn't make sense for you to just sit there and static the lanes.
So I think both safe lanes are heavily favored. You have two mid-game parries that come online very quickly.
He has a very volatile mid lane matchup where they want to get active here.
I think we're going to see a very high amount of rotations and amp up the pace in just the
early game.
I'm looking forward to this local down skirmishes that I think we're about to witness.
Are we also expecting Lotsens to just be everywhere with that in mind?
I would like to consider that he needs to be a plus one because Kez as a carry does
that and offers that to the game and I think that's why they might have let the nature's
profit in that role because there's not many carries that do that.
Yeah, 100%.
I think he should get active this game.
He hasn't tied the standing version on dying, so K'Lap's gonna have a slower start to the game.
First pit has been counterpicked theoretically, so it would be cool if the cast would get involved.
So we don't really have a clear favour here, based on the drafts?
No, we don't. We don't. This is going to be... everything's up in the air.
Two of the best teams in the world battling it out. What else can you ask for?
That is quite the treat for everyone watching this Best of Three series,
Game 1 of our Grand Quarter Finals coming your way with Kezu and Sub-Span!
Team Spirit versus Yandex in the playoffs here for EWC.
This is going to be a hype matchup. That's a hype set to start things out.
Beautiful, beautiful creature we have here on hand, played by the great DM as we have a pause, 33.
I know he's been eliminated from the tournament, but he just wants to make sure the lights are up to snuff here.
He's got to keep up the legacy, of course, of his lights here as Yandex and Spurt.
Now like he said this is gonna be an absolute banger also have to remember this is single of them
You don't get no second chances. You know, you got to go up against the big boys looking up. Yeah, it is life
I get it
Socks that used to be on a team with 33 probably learned a lot a little trick
Shouldn't he be the one to them like stop this legacy of the lights since they have so much beef as people like to keep saying
Do they have beef apparently so is it beyond beef?
They're playing tomorrow. Okay, just double checking
as we get this wrapped up here and
And if this doesn't go through games, I'm going to be severely disappointed.
We've been saying that over and over again.
Out of all the games we've cast, because we've had a lot of 2-0s and stomps, like one way or the other,
this is, like we talked about, it's play of stage.
This is two of the best teams and if you would have asked people beforehand,
I wouldn't be too surprised if these two names would come up a lot and like,
what's your top three for the tournament?
You know, Spirit, Yandex especially, I think they've been on fire.
They won Blast not long ago. They're looking very good.
I think they're very, very improved players.
Like to me, especially, I would say CJ is one of the most improved players of this entire season.
His KDA of the last eight games is ridiculous.
And I think when it comes to Spurred, a lot of their players do the talking themselves.
You don't really have to hype them up because we all know what these players do.
Yeah, Maposhka back as a coach.
And you can see the difference that he makes.
I mean, I would assume maybe it's just a coincidence, you know, they went to TI's with them as player
Mm-hmm, and now they're ramping things up, which they've looked very underwhelming for most of this year
I want to say they do that in most years even when he's not there
I mean that's you get to the end show up to the big tournaments
Yeah, it's all part of the play you don't want to play too well early on because then you just get your heroes nerfed true like falcons
That's right falcons got decimated like every Amara heroes just nerf to the ground
But then it doesn't matter because he goes to the next one and then he goes back to the timber after like one year
And then he just goes 10-0 anyway, so who cares if you're good enough
You can make up for all the other things when you're here gets nervous you find a new bill you do something different in the lane
But yeah, I'm very excited about this early game that we have here cuz you know, we heard them talk about it on the panel
I do think the overall aggression should be on the an exercise early on
But it also has to be if I'm looking at later
He knows Virts mid game teamfight is crazy good with the tide
But he is also a slow and clunky hero. So this is something that Yanis can abuse with the heroes early on
How many ages steals in this series for collapse to
To to I'm going with you know one is boring zero is whatever because it's collapsed you can't say zero means you're stupid
You got some stats on that didn't you some real stuff? Well, so supposedly his actual
Like how many ages as he's stolen thought his career is like 14 or 15? I'm gonna call it's not still you're calling out
That's bullshit. There's no way. That's true. I've cast about ten of them
So you're saying I've cast most of his Aegis skills. It's possible. No way. Maybe you're the dude. That's true
Maybe I'm just that good. I'm the good luck charm for collapse
So we've got the spirit brothers in the mid lane cheer versus Laurel
Yumber versus Earth and how is this supposed to go? So we've seen this many times now
So from what we've seen and also overall strength is Earth Spirit does very well early on
I mean both of them just kind of farm, but throughout the game
I definitely give the advantage to the ember's bird, you know, you can go vessel you can go mage layer
You're not really ever in threat
The good thing that I like this game about the earth spirit is it earth bird is incredibly good against nature's prophet
If we think about what nature's prophet wants to do
He's gonna TP and set a place right he wants to collapse on a tower earth bird
First of all, you're very good at making the first move on to the nature's prophet or answering that first rotation of the game
And overall with how loud has been playing definitely get my eyes on him
And for the other side, DM playing the center that we've mentioned, I mean how good is Malady going to be, need to be in this laning stage?
Daniel was kind of talking about how he needs to bully, collapse.
Yeah, you have Nature's Prophet, I'm dying, it's a super good lane, especially against the Tidehunter, which was last picked.
But I collapse, he should be in for a good game, you know, I'm talking about the fact that his hero is a bit slow, but there's an insane value for the Tidechart in this game, right?
You know you got the anchor against the ember so you can't remnant you also have the anchor against the stampede
Which means it's completely useless. You're not gonna be running away
But at the good thing is for spirit they've got the chicken man, you know mister yet or a chicken man
Yes, there's something special about this CIS case
It maybe it's like the innate aggression that those carry players have because
Kess is this type of here
He's very squishy, but he deals an insane amount of damage
And I do think that your tour definitely rates up there while he rates up their overall for the best carry
but also for one of the best cases that we currently have.
And if there's an Ember spear on the other side,
he has a taunt that uses shish kebabs.
Mmm, maybe that's the counter.
They're gonna be chicken shawarma on the menu here today.
They're creepy.
And hopefully it's better than the one you had recently.
Yeah, I'm talking about collaborators.
And getting quite low.
Pops the ferrifier to survive.
Rightfully so.
And Penel kind of talked about how he might have
a bit of a rough play in his stage.
Not much mana to speak of at the moment though.
Like this has three mangoes.
Yeah, like this matchup has a lot to do with the supports,
but this is another strength of like Nature's Prophet Cherry.
You can always put the tree in on like the side lane,
help your 5 to bully the post 4.
And yeah, it's just overall a very good lane for Malady.
And I've been very impressed with Zombie.
Like overall, you know, it helps you with a good lane,
with the Roche later, you can get the chart,
people from buying it more and more.
And Malady, this guy, he slaps on the Zombie.
He's not afraid to go through the gate, run mid, just go in and die, respawn, and just do it straight again.
One of the games that we cast, he started, I think, honestly 5-0 on dying something crazy early on.
He had like a 16-minute blade mail shard on him dying this Creads.
It was completely absurd, but finally getting to the stage of the playoffs that both teams are going to be pretty evenly matched, so...
Every little mistake, we'll see if the opposing team can capitalize.
And so far in the mid lane, 16-3 for Chirra Jr. and 12-1 for his counterpart in Laurel.
He's doing quite well, also like the small things at the moment where you have like
a lot of sustain still on CJ, because he's been able to dodge a kick or two, maybe giving
up a bit of his lead here, because he's tanking way too many tower shots, because I do think
he was starting to get slightly ahead in this mid lane, but Laurel kind of able to, I would
say, recover the lane.
So far, not me doing a good job of keeping Malady outside of the range of the tide, as
DM will take a little Maladik action.
This is a hero that I don't think we've seen too many Witch Doctors ourselves, but I saw
it a lot in a lot of the other games, and he just looks incredibly good.
You have all these fat, beefy boys in the offline that are being played.
We all know through the history of Dota 2, Maladik destroys these heroes, the Tidehunters,
the Centaurs, whoever else is played, you know, Hax.
We should just look very good also the fact that your deathboard is pure damage the hero has very good talents as well
Long some trouble are all trying to run this off here as committing a
Completely popular verify is Laura. He's just gonna die to the tower if he's not careful blood grenade coming out from root
Taking a TP and a kill so punished in the end from Chura side and spirit
He's very happy with the launch is really right clicking the fountain wobbling his way over there meanwhile toppling
That's a huge point.
That's a huge point.
They kill off Watson.
That was not expected at all.
And Malady should be able to finish the job here on the collapse, although it might be
able to deny.
Nope.
He's still got the gush left.
He does get the kill.
And yeah, the gush into the bushwhack.
That's a double kill for not me to start this top lane for Spirit.
There's some things happening that should not be happening.
Like Lallan mid, you know, he has the magic wall on the very front.
So CJ goes for an overplay, a bit of a misread, but especially also in this top lane.
And this is why it matters so much how you skill.
A lot of fight hunters in this lane, they will go crack and chill and like just chill
and oh I'm gonna tank through the tree and stuff.
Without the gush all of these plays don't happen.
Sometimes aggression is your best defense because getting a double kill in this lane
is honestly it's kind of criminal here for Spirit.
Yeah, definitely it's not something that the panel is expecting or you for that matter.
I absolutely know.
I expect everything.
Of course.
You're expecting the most stupid thing.
is chaos as they say. You can see Midlan, how far back does this put Chira Jr. in the
Midlane matchup now? We're getting a minute away from this first power room situation.
You can see it matters a lot when it comes to like this early on pressure as you're
trying to chase down Saas a bit with the... Oh my god.
You're up! Okay, second death, not me all over the place now. Makes his way to the Midlane
and I assume he bushwhacks for the kill. It's also that EarthBoot is being played a
little bit different right you he has no levels and the rolling boulder that's
was like another reason why ember was so good well if you rolled it and he
dodges it with the side of his you end up in the chair one tower but with the
high levels of silence and the kick you know they buff those spells they're way
better so find ourselves a secondary kill on to CJ here
yeah this is we're gonna watch it replay cheer up
and the silence pushed by just on the edge that was as close as it gets
rocking perfect execution the good thing is still for you next day do have to
Top 3 CS on the board, which means they're going to have nations profit older not too long, you still have, you know, level 6 is coming out, active rune as well now.
No arrow available just yet for Saas, though.
Six minute power rune, Bushwack not going to hit, it's going to be bottom, Rude picks up the haste, as it looks like Malady is going to suffer the consequences.
Actually puts down the tombstone, they're going to try to take it out, it's sure to do, it gets the deny.
We're going to a lot of gold going away of spirits, so, silver lining for Yandex.
You have to be a bit careful as it collapses to its own devices and actually just gets
killed off by Watson.
I'm not sure how that happened.
No, we're seeing some good shit happening.
I'm loving what's going on.
It must have been super low to start.
No, he was low, and then Watson, we could also see towards the tail end, right, a lot
of body blocks with the tree ends, of course, Tidehunter, he's a big juicy guy, he's easy
to block, he don't have any faceboots yet, so nice to be done by Watson to squeeze in.
A very unusual kill.
Yeah.
Sometimes we're not seeing the arrow quite yet for socks that I mean their set up is not the craziest
Serving change is a classic. Yeah to some degree sprout have stomp to a degree
Definitely needed in the early levels of the star swarm early on to help with the lane
Early ring of health can be denied here for the time being matter. They want to go for his path of the play
Yeah, he tries for it. They watch the replays though, and they are very very ready
It's collapsed although watching coming with the TP and now cheer a junior joining the party as well
I think the first of all is collapse. That's what the Crackin' Shell now run away, but look who's inside.
It is now Laurel inside the Wisdom Shrine, but he's gonna get caught off guard as Watson just gets the easy triple.
He just stands there and right clicks and somehow comes out on top.
And now they're gonna go on top of collapse. He gets arrowed up with that level 4 now being missed. The ultra kill for Watson.
All right, so everything unexpected is happening at the moment.
Even with this Wisdom Shrine invasion, they didn't even have the Tombstone.
You know, it's not the same play we saw the other day for Malady,
but the thing is, there's no magnetized, there was no ravage early on,
and this is also what we heard earlier, right?
Yannick's need to be playing aggressive early on, and they absolutely made the best of that.
Maybe if Gatoro can look over and have an early TP, you know, you could counterplay it,
of course he didn't have his ult available.
And the fact that Malady just, I mean, he wasn't going to survive there regardless,
but he was there so early just denying the wisdom shrine until the rest of his comrades could come help out.
Speaking of Yandex, they're gonna find Rue caught off guard and taken out swiftly.
Oh, they are cooking fairly on.
Now, also, next, Nature's CrossFit, in 10 seconds, and he is very close to a Maelstrom.
This must be one of the fastest Maelstroms we've ever seen,
because you don't usually get some random ultra kill injection in 7 minutes.
Yes, that's true.
We have 3k lead already for Yandex, see if they can separate from the pack,
or if Spirit has something up their sleeves.
I mean, in terms of fighting potential for Spirit,
We've talked about Kaz, he's going for looks like the mage slayer. Yeah, he got things out
Did lose his ring of health earlier, but he's he's getting it back now
And we've seen centaur so so many times if you don't shut this hero down
Oh your Toro actually goes back in and gets hooked up as a result uses the Ravens fail though
Yeah invisibility at a way, Invincibility of course. Here, uh, Invis on Invis action
Not for much longer. There's a spot him now
Can they go for the searing chains into Era Soxa? Don't no mana
Yeah, unfortunate for the side of Yandex, actually read this beautifully, but wouldn't be able to finish the job there, so we'll back away in the end.
Okay, still some good early pressure as they do force out Yatoro out of the lane, which means Q1 down bottom is going to fall, and in the top lane, you still have a full HP tower.
Got Yuan dying there, you've got Trians to hold it off. So Yandex definitely, like even with some of the early kills that came out, they now have a 3K gold lead and they are taking the first Q1 of the game.
one of the game and it's a level advantage in the mid like he got first blood twice on this ember and
he's out leveling the difference as melody is taking a bit of pressure but the difference between
collapse and what's in right now is illegal level five to nine and double network yeah that is rough
as collapse not used to being in such a position getting chased out this will take a while Watson
actually not even interested love the way it wants to get some farm stamp people help them catch up
Lots of crack and shell but to no avail.
The Yandex in the last few minutes have gotten everything that they've wanted.
See Spirit take a smoke, but like you said, collapsed.
Ten minutes in, no ravage yet.
This is a good play that Spirit are setting up for, right?
You know that is Centaur who's playing here quite aggressive to your one-on-one, and he has no stampede.
That's the big deal. He did use it in the last play up top.
We're gonna start things out. Sharp shooters coming for him.
and with that Maladix will eventually take out only questions who gets to kill it will be the chicken man Mr. Yatoro
It's a very very necessary kill down here. How do I see we'll just play down here forever?
So making use of the fact that I did use system Pete aggressively
I've seen this in more and more games now people are really trying to shut down collapse that happened yesterday as well against liquid
Just continuous moves into his lane. He's very weak even if you try and help him out
It's just like a defensive ravage into kind of nothing
So, second tower on the deck here for Yandex.
Now, the same level as Collapse gonna use that flesh goal, I'm gonna get rolled on though,
so TP support for Collapse, who's been desperate to get back in this game, and this will help.
I'm gonna get the tombstone as well, so Collapse actually being fed a little bit of an injection there.
Yeah, he'll be quite happy about that.
You know, Man, he's kinda feeling himself, of course, sometimes when you play the zombie, you just wanna go ham.
You just wanted to show them that, hey, I'm the same level as you, bro.
Hey, man, you need three friends.
Soxlet gets opened up on, but has that leap at his disposal?
I mean, how hard is it to hit arrows in a lineup like this?
Because Swiftstop is kind of, I'm talking about long arrows.
And it's on chains, which is, I believe they should be maxed out soon enough.
Pull up, so at the same time, Madeline is doing...
We're down as the first magnetized of the game on to Malady who he said we talked about him being level six has been dying quite a bit
And I stone is it enough to tick away pops the stick is fine meanwhile though push whack on the socks up with the
Maladict as well
So across the board to one for one but Marle gets completely collapsed on big roll though earn charge applied
As cheerle wants to finish the job of the sleight of fist he can find a second
And I'm not quite enough, there's now TP support in the form of Yatoro.
Stampede gonna help out though as Chira attempts to exit and cast, cast up,
maladicted up and now he knows he's dead.
So, good turnaround there from Spirit.
A little bit too much of a chase from Chira.
I see Spirit can now pressure this Tier 1 as a result.
I'll definitely gotta be careful about that because like we're saying Yandex are ahead,
but they also should be, right, with that type of draft.
And they've been playing very, very well.
CJ, those gotta dial it back a little bit.
So the second overplay for him in this game.
And also, Spirit, they kind of meet those, you know,
and get a little bit more gold, hold back on the map,
not lose your tier one tower this early on as well.
Honestly, it's a big benefit here for Team Spirit.
So we see some stacks coming out.
Who has the better Roche taking team?
Not including Collapse as a person.
It has to be Dire.
Like, you have Nature's Prophet, who's ultra,
he's an ultra monster.
Like, 8000 gold at 13 minutes is a...
We're talking about Alchemist's network here, and most importantly, you've got the Zombieman.
Of course, I'm dying very, very good at Roche.
Got the Flashgolder, and you've got the Tombstone.
Which, of course, means in return that Collapse can up his numbers on the Aegis Steals.
Yeah, very true.
I'm sure a lot of the Aegis Steals that I'm thinking of were him actually getting Roche as well, technically speaking.
Which felt like a steal, but 14 seems too low.
It does seem too low.
Maybe it's like when he got the last hit and the Aegis, I don't know if that's like what the side is for.
It has to be, no, it has to be snatched.
Yeah, it does seem too low.
But we'll of course double check the numbers, we've got the Lenovo legions to help us out the top.
Yep, that's right.
The lab's getting some form out into this triangle here.
But Maldives got these for once.
Here in the cover of my shadow, and I want Rue, should be able to clean him up.
Although the silence comes out making this a little bit more difficult along with the ult from the witch doctor, but eventually they do find the kill.
Now he's got me from stern or what bro just keeps running me here at minute 14
He's a he's a bot for the shrine. Yeah, he's a he's programmed to need that thing
Minus seven I go with stumptribe
That's right
The DM it's funny because we talked about this a little bit yesterday a lot of times when you see a centaur
It's like okay. He's gonna get you know, he's gonna get an okay amount of farm
He's gonna get this cookie cutter build this tournament. I feel like it's completely changed
He's threatening top net worth every game that feels like this hero.
No, all the time.
You have a good early landing stage, you go for the Dominator,
and it feels like once you get the armor component,
it's really hard to knock you out of the lane,
and teams have also done a good job.
You want to open up this tier 1, 4 to center, either bring a top of heroes to him,
because he forms so easily.
I mean, this hero kind of has a cheat code right now.
You just run to neutral switch return, you double edge in the high HP region,
and in the meantime, you send your stupid creep around,
they're just holding your next wave.
So you don't...
You just make PBE,
And then at some point you have good items and you tell your team I have some Pete you guys do your thing
That's right. You're fine. Here you go. Yeah, I gotta do your tank
Well, he is going for the Lotus orb. So takes off magnetize
Cast can be reflected anything else. I'm missing that vessel very important violence
This stupid cast stacks. Yeah quite good the minus armor on the gush. Yeah, I like also gives you more HP region
Because all Centaur really needs to get big, he needs HP region, you can spam double edge and just keep spamming it, off cooldown, stay high HP.
And it looks like overall with how Yanix are moving, I'm liking this one, because 6-7 minute active rune and mid tier 1 is kind of what you're looking for here.
They're incredibly tanky on their heroes, 2K HP on the Centaur, Malady as well, 1400 HP, Ash Legion Shield and Fleshgold into boots.
And Collaps just finished his first item.
In other words, 16 minutes in the game he has the wraps online.
This guy got Toro?
The tank here, yeah, opening up onto you Toro.
He's able to get the veil off though.
He'll exit as a result.
They get the roll in onto Watson, but the stamp he comes out,
Magnetize already expended.
And a sharp shooter.
Not going to be quite enough here.
So a little bit of reset from both sides.
DM looking for a Huston.
No connection made.
Trying to defend this tombstone a bit, but it collapsed and it dodged the arrow.
Looks like it'll be denied.
And it's collapsed, because it's put back onto the high ground, so no casualties from either side.
Chir is still supporting that damage room, just ends actually.
A little bit lucky there, I would say, for Sphere. I mean, you're told a good job getting out there, right?
Ravens will grappling out, but if you're Yanlix, look like they had a potential that you maybe stampede on top of him,
get the hoof stump connection on top because again any seconds or minutes
where Spurr get to keep their tier one mid alive is absolutely crucial. It is the
tier one that kind of matters the most. Yeah this thing is dead. The question is
how many heroes will try to defend. Malty looking for the potential deny. Not
gonna get it, he's gonna get rolled on and another death to the undying. Now Malty
racking them up with six at this point. He will insta respawn so I guess in terms
of his mind, who really cares, blood?
That's the second use of ceaseless dirge in 8.
Longest cooldown that we've got in the game.
Rightfully so, it's free ages.
Broken run around feed and come straight back up.
Remember when that, those were talents for heroes like Lena.
Oh, thank God we removed those.
Or when it was on Bloodstone.
Oh yeah, that's right.
And if you had high charges, you could just suicide and respawn.
I forgot about that.
I mean, there was many different variations of charges on Bloodstone as well.
Oh yeah.
I kind of missed some of it.
He's Watson with the Mee owner, and just about to finish the Hurricane Pike.
Honestly, crazy network on him.
I'm surprised that Gatoro was able to keep up that nicely.
Did get to finish up his desolator, Soxa.
And he's super dead for Mr. Soxa.
This lead hasn't really grown in favor of Yandex at all, Spirit.
Closing the gap a bit in terms of the differential.
The last couple of minutes are quite bad for Yandex. Maybe in terms of the network doesn't reflect it all that much, but
they didn't get to take Spirit's Mitter one and they lost their own. Now they lost their safely in Tier 1 Tower.
So you can see the lead shrinking a little bit.
Relaxed. Everything's a TP. I'm not gonna have any stuns here. They almost had the damage though. My goodness.
He has the blinkbacker online. Gonna go for the shard as well. Is it gonna try to initiate off the tier of Junior?
Let's keep him at bay for a bit, but eventually finds the distance
Very very mobile hero, especially once you get that agonist sector a little bit later in the game
He's going for the BKB first into the kayak
So I would say kind of a
Normal build right yeah very like safe you're playing up against silences
It makes sense you want to be able to keep scaling but also go into these fights and not really be in too much threat of dying
That we talked about collapse early had a slow game rightfully
So he's slowly creeping up.
He's not that easy to kill anymore.
He now also has a blink dagger to follow up with a ravage.
And once he gets blink shard combo,
you're suddenly not that safe anymore in Yannick's.
Murana can't reach, then P.V.S. useless,
and Ember can't remnant out.
Find Wattson.
They're gonna give you pretty soon.
Wattson spotted.
They're gonna use a ravage just for him,
then well worth it.
Top net worth in the game.
Z will go to the grave.
Malady there too late.
And this will provide a little bit of opportunity
for Yatoro to catch up in the farm department.
Like he said, he is farming well.
It's just that Watson has been farming next level.
Oh yeah, he's been farming heroes
and everything else on the map.
But just overall good read and also nice vision
that Spurry got off earlier, right?
Not me with a very aggressive ward in the dire jungle.
Was able to spot out Watson there on the prior kill.
Let's see, CJ is playing down here.
They're making a gate play collapse.
Gonna be spotted though.
takes the hoof stomping with that, the remnant away.
Collapse, again, blinking in, doesn't have the shark quite yet.
You see the essence decilers being traded.
That's gonna provide the chase opportunity for Chura Jr.
You're not getting away.
So what a force to add to this squirrel.
Nami should die here.
Makes it a little bit more difficult, and I gotta try to turn this into a Tormentor play,
and it looks to be...
relatively free.
Yeah, they absolutely should be able to.
I want to see what Yanix will be communicating and if it also reflects in their gameplay.
I think for them, if the ravage is down, he bought his own shard again on Nality.
Yeah, he's seeing this more often and honestly, it looks very good.
I like that we're seeing this and now CJ is getting closer to his BKB and he got the shard
from the Tormentor so he'll be quite happy.
Absolutely.
Or...
Again, does not have the dead in the water yet.
In fact, how close is he?
400 away. It's gonna make a huge difference. Of course you'll have a couple cores that will get their BKBs
Yeah, I Chira is about to purchase the recipe right now. So
Unfortunate timing for collapse in terms of the Ember spirit specifically DM
Will stamp eat to safety Soxa inside the tombstone. He gets grabbed by his ally will leave out
Eventually falls of the actually got cancellation the TV so another death for malady double kill for your Torah getting those desso stacks up
That's 4 to his name.
They're finding some big, big kills on Spirit.
Yeah, his BKB about to come out as well for Yatoro.
Because a lot of the items that are coming out right now are very, very impactful for Spirit, right?
We're talking about the double BKB that both Loll and Yatoro have.
You have Collapse who has a multitude of items.
He's got the Rats, the Blink, now the Shard completed as well.
And this is Roche on the deck.
There's no Tombstone, no Stampede.
And it's not like they kill it poorly, you know, you've got the desolator, you've got gush for the minus armor, and they will constantly save foliage people with the heal from Rue.
Yep, not too shabby.
Xehan makes it gonna be aware of this. The trance are gonna provide a little bit of vision.
Very good for the pit.
And with that, actually Spirit exit the pit.
They know how easy it is to steal Aegis'
I mean, Rue has nice positioning too, right? He's got his ward on the right side to also cover if there's ever a smoke.
The side of this is actually breaking the smoke from two heroes here.
Now they have Malady set.
And he's gonna get the first dead in the water of the game.
That's gonna be an easy pick off, because he had his innate up again.
It's been a while now, still a couple minutes away.
So that's 30 seconds with no undying, as...
Moonlight's Shadow activated, nice to be changed onto 2.
The arrow will hit Laurel.
No follow-up though, Bushwack connects onto Chira Junior though.
Passed the pass to BKB, gets bashed up, will run it out, and he's actually ticking out very slowly here.
Thank god.
I had to use the BKB Lotus, and I think also feed him a Lotus.
Surely now that's enough for Rush to be spirits.
But this is also where some teams can learn something from teams for it.
You get scouted out by the Trian, and you don't take the chance to just keep hitting Roshan all day back off.
Not me was waiting in that area for so long, and in the meantime, Miss Team smokes around and they find a kill.
They always go for like the 100% chance play that you don't have any counterplay yourself
So even though Yandex have the lead dropping the first ages here into your Toro's hands
That's still the lead remains on Yandex's side and when it gets to the late game you favor spirits lineup
I would say so
I mean Doran is definitely more about like it bounces back and forth when it comes to overall item timings
Like when Watson later on gets a potential silver edge, you know where you get a break against the tide
It could be quite good looks like for now
He wants to go full out damage because nature's profit scaling is not bad
It's the same with like Centaur and also Ember, but I think the next like 10 to 15 minutes should be kind of spurred its way
He still has a fairy fire
Yeah, kind of goes to show you that he's not really been
Pressured all that much. I have a one time that we saw him get ganked. It was just a ravage into
Can't really do anything. Yeah, just a full sun look
We'll see how much Yatoro can get out of this Aegis.
And it's collapsed, looking towards a Shiva's Guard.
Here, silenced.
Able to dodge some spells, though.
God's a lot, actually.
Both a boomerang and a sharpshooter.
And then it's to the north.
That Elisha applied to both heroes, because of the load, as it seems.
Into the Stampede, though, for DM.
Arrow hits the tide as Yatoro.
I'm gonna try to chase DM, he's gonna be spotted though, nice dust coming out from
not me, and DM likely to not get out here, cancellation to TP, so another big kill for
Spirit.
That's the job I get towards getting the markup for the little mini sun onto DM.
Eat your fish, come on, collapse, eat your fish.
He's not interested.
I need to buff those so they actually care, it's just like the old natures profit passive
over the goal, they wouldn't even pick it up.
I feel like it should just like come flying to you as they are just successful into the kick out.
And Watson's gonna have to BKB.
Well, four staff TP now.
It will be fine.
Good.
It's forcing a lot of BKB uses.
It's kind of a weird game because you have Spirit that are getting all of the kills going,
but when you look at the network fleet, it's like either staying even or Yannick's even like pushing it a little bit, you know, up there.
As Watson continues, you just have crazy network in this game.
At what point, if you get 7-slotted on Nature's Prophet,
it feels like you drop off at a certain point. Is that still the case?
You kind of do, but it's more about finding the right engagements.
I still feel that Yannick's can look for plays a little bit more.
Perhaps it's always hard to tell when we're observing because we see everything.
There's definitely a chance that this bird continues to have the right people at the right time
and in the right place where collapse is like blocking all these moves, but DM has had a blink dagger for a long time
and we've never really seen any connection of like a good steering chains into an arrow or like a hoofstomp with a moonlight shadow.
So they are quite passive at the moment,
but might just potentially have a read to wait out the ages. Let me get close to this data list here for Watson.
Yeah, I'm waiting for Chira to get truly online.
He's going for, I believe he just purchased the Sage into the Kaius Sage now.
So next item up is Agni-Msephir, that's when the hero kind of takes on a whole new level.
Toro will be able to claim this tier 2 tower in the meantime.
Is this enough with this Aegis you think?
Are they happy about this?
They can still look like if Yannix go overly aggressive here in this bottom side, I would
not be surprised at all.
This bird looked to take a fight into them also now that they've cleared up the first year to tower
It means that you can flip the map kind of go over to the enemy outpost take that over and start building a little bit more of a map
Advantage I could also see if you're a bird you should be thinking about a gem
Relatively soon first of all you're playing against Murano and Yanis aren't really looking to fight you all that much
Lots of or
Cheer or rather able to get out of the the chicken man's arms
This is also like a very important aspect of these elusive idiot heroes as I would like to call you can't just because you can't kill an
Ember you cannot allow him to just walk down the top lane so I like that your toro is staying there kind of keeping a very strong
foothold on the top lane and where it's pushed into
Now ages is expiring in 30 seconds so spirit gonna try to claim one more tower before that comes to be
Fortification comes out though
And that's not one that's going to refresh because they've already killed off a tier two
Okay, we've got a read here potential that maybe malady would have been here seems like he changed the program
He's gonna pop this flesh fill him out picking a full duration. Okay. Yeah
Into the tombstone I'm gonna try to wait out. He's fine. That's maledict. Yeah, he's fine. We find for me one way
Get away. He dies pops back out and that's a delicious treat for your Torah to get another stack on his deso
That's quite a bit of gold, but of course Mali will be straight back up, as there is the gem for not me.
Now they... Spineye having the Aegis will try to still finish off this tier 2 mid.
And with all the good things they did against Collapsus, Tidehunter early on, and even though he is vulnerable to network,
you can tell by how Yandex are playing that this Tide is having very big impact.
I'm just happy scaling up, we've got a bunch of greedy enchantments, I'm pretty sure here
on the Yandex side, you know you have Saasir who's going for the Aghanus Scepter, you
have Ember who's including the greedy enchantment, Centaur and then we already know that both
of the supports have it, so that surely will help you a little bit when it comes to the
gold lead.
Back to everybody takes it, just makes it lose its meaning, don't you think?
A little bit, yeah. At least, you know, Collapse doesn't have it. He wants to play like very honest, get some health, some HP region.
If this enchantment didn't exist, how many different heroes do you think we would see? Like, how much is it predicating what people are picking?
It definitely has quite a big impact. I think you'd see at least a lot of support.
Like, if there was a patch where that's the only change, you think it would be a drastic meta shift?
Not drastic, but I do think over time you will see it because let's say you're playing Marana in this game
And you don't have a greedy enchantment
I don't even think he would have queued up an agonist up there
Right. Or if he did he would have half of it at this point. Same as like heroes like Centaur
It's crazy good when you play these flimbers and valkers
Centaur said you can go greedy enchantment as a Yatoro
Wants to go in this and check out what's happening in the neighborhood.
Yeah, Chira was spotted taking that damage rune
God, he is so strong on this kid right now.
403 Gatoro with a very, very good itemization also.
You know the death souls that make sure you're not thinking crazy.
Agatom, Scepter, Ekibi, and all the Crystalists.
If you let this guy get a couple clicks on you, you are absolutely going to be shredded.
Just waiting for this inevitable anime-style battle.
You have to explain how that works, you know, don't watch anime, but you get that reference
as much as anything.
Sure.
exactly what you meant but maybe it's the one guy farming up forever which is
Watson to then go up against the villain which is Gatoro I guess Gatoro is the villain in this case I see
I mean I think so even though they're behind I give them the slight strength
when it comes to like overall fighting but I am still happy to see what Watson
is cooking up you know with the data list as well that yeah now the kids apply
to him attempting to TP spotted in his out very close he's going for the short
now has the heart up to Rask, so that regen doing work for him.
But with that TP, means that Spirit can take this tormentor now, and it's going to go between
Larl and Rue, and Rue will be the recipient, so.
Pretty nice, right?
You get to like dodge some stuff, you can go into your death ward, and again, it's different
ways to keep your death ward going to stay alive in the fight, and any type of way that
you stay alive longer in the fight, if you get off another round of spells, it's quite
quite good for you.
As Yandex looks like, they've kind of had enough. It's time to get a kill on the board or some type of aggression.
And Damage Rune for Chura.
They need a stomp into arrows.
They're gonna get a host stomp right off the bat, so you can change the follow. He's gonna be dead right off the bat.
As Rue comes in with a nice family counter too. As Yatoro, very scary, nice grab ally.
Knows Yatoro can't go for anybody, gets a Ractness on just Creeps, and despite being the BKB,
guys regardless, too dead for Spirit.
As Rue, completely caught off guard, will use that newly picked up Shor, but gets blown up afterwards by Soxa and his Agnem Scepter with a double kill, 5k lead for Yandex now.
That is the power of the Tombstone.
They were holding back, but they just find one good move.
There are some BKBs, so you can't go with the chains into the arrow, so you need the Huston into the arrow overall to go for the connection.
And your total body could do a lot more but wasn't it just able to stand his ground. He has nothing for this route
They're all just dodging the raptor stance
That's why I was I didn't mention I was a little surprising go for battle theory
So I feel like it's just naturally it's just something to get out of strut all game long
I guess you can try for the grapple you're playing with like some four steps overall
It's just a bad if you he doesn't feel very good. I mean, this is a very very bad death here for your total. I'm sure he knows that one
And ex kind of separating now seven make it 8k lead through and not me on the low ground
Their triangle was invaded successfully though from DM
Although collapse then and Sam P completely countered arrow is gonna hit collapse immediately cracking shells it off as they get
The damage a little bit too greedy for DM here
Okay, finding him out of position, and it is around the second roach at the moment, so this is one minute without DM being on the board.
You need to see how Yanix can go about this, like macro wise. Can you push in all the lanes? Can you keep poking him?
Because you have a 7k gold lead at this point, if you can just squeeze out and delay it a little bit, wait for DM to spawn to then take the roach fight.
It seems like Yotaro is making the potential call that maybe he wants to finish up this data list before a fight breaks out.
That's 30 seconds away for DM.
How much more can they do in a pit?
They're gonna attempt it,
and you can see, the Andes are actually really far away.
The Belch comes out, so they're now aware.
They should be moon-like shadowing towards that pit.
Arrow for a little bit of vision.
Yeah, they still have HP.
And only the Star Storm hits from the Agatom Scepter.
Put a Remnant down in as Laurel,
trying to create some space here.
Looks like they're fully committing.
There goes the type of pit.
Is Chira, Junior?
Now that Snatch comes out from Chira, they're going to kill off Naledi in the meantime as Chira does get out with his life.
So a little bit of Collapse's medicine being force fed to Spirit, and Soxa TP's out, so in the end, great move from the Andex.
Yeah, just a little reverse Uno, suck on that, Collapse.
So it looks like the Roche Paner was claimed from Yatora.
Ken helps him a force a little bit, ladies.
What are the items spawned? It's always the same.
the same I feel like ages ages is always in the same spot and then the rest are
kind of random yeah I think that's about as usually like a little bit more
higher where's the ages ones a little like down below
it's I mean it's just good poking overall and then they get in here CJ quick on
his fingers and I think if this were to be replayed the latch is like I'm just
gonna take it yeah because I click faster than every human being I will wait
for Roach to die and then blink in that's right I like Watson strength also
Overall, I think like with this butterfly he can absolutely stand his ground and then the last item will be you know swapping out the trance for the satanic
Certainly playing with one item advantage here into your total case. He didn't go for silver edge, which is a big curious
Missing collapse is not somebody they care too much about the moment
Yeah, honestly not really
I think at this point perhaps it's just more important to have ultimate 1v1 power as you reference the anime battle
of course some Itachi versus Sasuke type situation which I'm sure you fully understand absolutely
or some Goku versus Frieza or Majin Buu. Yay. Hey hey people here like anime. I like anime. We've
got a lot of people watching. Looks like another unfortunate death for him. He's gonna reflect
the death of the water but won't be able to go any nice reflection on the grapple.
Still will take a tumble.
Just 70 seconds.
Of course, like we said, Chirr Junie is the one with the Aegis, so there's no real rush from the index either.
No, and he can play quite aggressive, right? He's got Chard, he's got the Agatom Scepters, well known Arcane Rune.
So it's definitely one of the timings here for Mr. CJ to start amping up the pace.
These Maranas with Agni Receptors, this item's kinda weird, but it really does pay off if
you get to 25.
They are scaling very well, and I liked it.
I don't know which patch it was, but you used to have to choose between Star Storm Damage
and Multi Arrow.
There's a...
Maybe we cursed him.
Yeah, of course.
One more leap to boot.
Nah, he's dead.
He's got a Lotus.
Doesn't wanna use it though.
He's just gonna chill.
But yeah, like nowadays on Marana, you have a good level 20 talent and a good level 25 talent to go with the Agatom Scepter,
which honestly gives, you know, quite a big buff to being able to buy this axe.
And what people on the rest of the game too, Yamuna in Shadow level 15, it gives evasion.
So you know, some random hits here or there from your Toro they might miss.
I mean, I'm sure he spotted this butterfly for Watson, so is he gonna have to go?
Yeah, see, he is already going MKB.
Yeah, he definitely did spot it. He can tell in his quick buy.
So, Aghanim Scepter likely to be consumed, or I can just swap out the treads for the time being.
He still has room to grow, which is a bit scary.
He does, but even with what we've been seeing, Yannix have done a good job at, like, you know, reflecting kind of what's going on on the map, getting the Aegis into their own hands.
Because you saw it in the last fight, if Watson gets to, you know, hit onto this kez, you're totally definitely in a lot of trouble.
It's such a close game, I have to say.
And as Ian just now picked up from Malady,
so another save for him along with,
I mean, even if he gets jumped now,
Ian just procs and he can tombstone either himself or an ally.
And that's like, it's the other annoying thing
when you play against Undying,
like, sure you can kill the tomb,
but it's kind of, Kez is the only one,
and you don't want to use that time,
especially when you're already kind of losing
the one-to-one carry matchup at the moment.
Collapsed was being pursued,
KJ is showing off the agonist sector. Huston is going to be avoided from collapse.
Finally, Ascini chains, locks him in place, but he's a tanky boy.
There's the official pick up now for the Satanic on Watson.
Fully six-slotted now.
Okay, right now?
Absolute beast mode.
This is one of the biggest power spikes you can ask for on a Nature Prophet.
Like, if Watson gets to go in these fights in a way that he likes to, where he doesn't get gone on first,
and he just gets to TP on the back side, or after they've, like, chained or stunned someone up,
he is crazy strong.
He's also got the triple HP and triple damage talent for the Trian, so a little bit more of a map play.
But he's not going to be growing much more than this, like even if you get Moonshard or Ags, it's not that much.
Of course, you still can, right? Like you said, you can do the Moonshard, you can eat the Agnus after he can buy the Shard.
You can also do some swapping in and out of like BKBs, buying a refresher later for like double ult.
But it is one of the strongest timings, so you want to try and make something happen.
You don't want to force it, but you want to be aware of it to try and use it
It's more like an incremental increase from here on out as opposed to this big power spike
Yeah, just six item
Which is definitely why you want to kind of like push it into sphere
You know make them tease them a little bit or like go aggressive on the map with a gem push it back
Yeah, well three minutes away from knowing when Rosh is coming up so yeah next I'm sure that's what they're gonna be waiting for
One would assume. Okay, they do have a Wind Waker now as well on to collapse which of course is a good counter play, right into the boost bomb battle.
Flash trying to get some D-Word action. Watts is going to put him inside of his scrout with some right click action as well. Nice run in the south from Chiro Jr.
Making Laurel roll away. Nice zombies. We'll chase collapse.
So vision battle, I suppose, goes to the Andex for now. Definitely does. And I do like this Wind Waker.
Like, when you play against a draft, and usually the mid to laking will boil down to...
There are specific ways for one team to win the fight.
And Yandex needs like the hoofstomp into arrow, into Watson deals damage.
So this Wind Waker can absolutely put a stop to it.
But now if you're Yandex, you need to find an answer to the Wind Waker,
which should be most likely a nullifier on someone.
I don't really know who wants to buy it on Yandex, but someone should be at least eyeing it.
So you can counterplay the counter that they're buying.
Seems like that maybe Malady's got his eyes on that one.
I was gonna say, Malady, it's not really an undying thing, but it's a Malady thing.
And he's got Link, Dagger.
Link Notifier is a great item combo.
Yeah.
Of course, it will take quite a while for an undying to get there, but I do like what
he has, you know, that they're talking about the correct things.
Alright, he's got the Greedy Enchantment.
Of course, which will help him, yep.
Really, it helps them.
I didn't know that.
Yep.
I'm just making sure.
Greed will be his downfall.
This collapse gets the anchor, although Watson teeping in, gets some right-click action on it,
collapsing quite a bit of damage, because Laurel can't pop the BKB and pop the sheathes
as he turns on the spot by it as collapse just gets deleted, and now Laurel completely surrounded,
nowhere to go, triple kill for Chira Jr. They lose socks at the beginning, but they get three kills in turn.
Yeah, well, if you haven't seen a timeless, wondrous catalyst, welcome to Dota 2, baby,
As CJ just, they just both evaporated. Sure, it was Watson who started off, you know, whacking away
at the Tidehunter, but then just to follow up low from CJ coming in with the Ags.
Yep, we'll see here in a moment as for that, you know, they think they've got the easy one here
on the Satsa, and you can see what's the damage. It is very high. It is. And then here, meow, hello,
everyone's there. Jeez, like a nuclear bomb gone off there. Absolutely ridiculous.
So Yandex in good position here, 13k lead already poking at the high ground now despite
not having the Aegis but obviously those two big core kills, no buybacks for either of
them would think that this is going to be a lane.
Now so they will be and it could even be a threat on the second draft unless they will
not play it safe, you know, already look for the next Roshan which it could be spawning
from now.
It is a very long spawn which would help Spirit.
and they will back away so the range parrots will technically survive
not that it matters that much
I definitely need to commend Yandex and how they played this game because mid game
even to me watching it looks like quite strange in a way but I think just
understanding and being confident in what heroes can do I would say especially Watson
you know having a very clear view okay guys let me farm I need these couple of items once I have
We just flip the switch and we go complete aggro mode
It's a pretty late rush so
Not sure who that favors exactly, but Yandex
If they can get this next rush with all the goodies
They're gonna be in extremely good position to end this game with spirit
Of course it collapsed always available to steal
I
I'm gonna steal this game but not for him. I was gonna say the that fact that it's not an instant rose spawn favor spirit
But the fact that it's this long and the next couple items coming up for Yanix are quite big. I do think it's famous them
Like Watson is holding 8k gold you have a buyback now available on CJ in the next fight if you want to the cart is quite close for
Dm you're also closing in on the nullifier on the zombie man
You're gonna have potentially two saves with the cart and the tombstone Laurel on the cliff
Okay, opening things up onto the Tidehunter though. Wind Waker gonna keep him safe for the time being.
Cause now he's just gonna chase him, that flesh-gulling form.
Larl, already getting gone in as well by the end, scared to climb.
The kill on the Rue right off the bat, as you're tore upon the DKB in retreat.
Trying to fight this out, but he's the one taking all the damage.
Shira Jr. just ripping through him. No buyback as well.
A hundred seconds on the deck. It's not me.
Ticking away, we'll be able to get back those last decay into...
Finally, the Wind Waker come out to save his life.
Buyback up on the Wood Shocker, but they lose the hood.
What can he do with the arrow?
And they get the arrow connection onto Laurel.
He's dead.
The Ravage comes out so late.
It matters not to last now, Falls.
And that should do it for game number one,
as GGs are called the Endex.
Take game number one.
Damn, quite convincing, too.
You know, like the early to mid game, they're ahead.
They're constantly ahead, bleeding some kills here or there.
But when you just look at their overall strength
of their heroes, just winning every fight back to back,
it looked like Yatorov maybe should have...
I thought he was going to be able to do more in this game, right?
He had a very clean game on the Keds, but then he comes in once in their own jungle,
just kind of dies for free.
That was one of his two deaths.
And then he dies once here at the end, and the game's just kind of over.
I feel like Spirit never had a fight as a team where Kolas was initiating,
getting a ravage into Keds just right clicking, doing his thing.
It was always Yandex pouncing on them instead.
And as a result, they took every big fight in Watson.
I mean, this performance on Nature's product is completely absurd.
It felt like Sherry Jr. was counting towards the late stage,
but that's because Watson's just sitting back right-clicking.
Nobody can really do anything against this hero when he has this much farm.
And you can tell how much it matters when you have a clean game on a couple of your players.
Like you said, I think Watson with very good itemization
and very good understanding of the game as well.
Apart from the Warner 2 overplay from CJ and Port Malady just kept going ham
on the enemy wisdom shrine, I think apart from that it was very good in spirit.
You might have to rethink a couple of these heroes.
Nature's Prophet Kerry has looked insane,
same with the Sentor Offline.
I don't know the last time we've seen this hero
have a bad game.
That's true.
I mean, he ends two and four on Sentor,
but he did his job and he was extremely far.
So what else can you ask for as a Sentor on your team?
And this was the first big play of the game
where the Wisdom Shrine was being contested by Malady.
He sat there basically sacrificed his life
just to make time for the rest of his team to show up.
And this is where they end up stealing
the second Wisdom Shrine to get the Ultra Kill early on
Yeah, Watson and Matt really was the beginning of the snowball and of course for most of the game
The annex was up what 3k. It wasn't like a gigantic lead
It was really just Watson leading the pack in a one-man army at least the early stages of the game
Yeah, and then I just think overall when you look at spirit
They're the ones that find good fights, but from the mid game onwards also with this very nice aegis deal
Right by yandex and cj overall
It's it was a very quiet like later team fight game from spirit
Which is not what you usually see from them. They always find a way to like have a nice angle have a good initiation to the fight
But this time around it's all yandex. Yeah, let's go to shiver to wrap up game number one
Thank you very much gentlemen. Yeah, this was a quiet game from spirit credit goes to yandex for being able to pressure
Spirit and the exact right places to make sure that spirit never really felt the time
trying to come together to make those moves that we expect from them.
Yeah, I feel like I mentioned before this series that GnX is a combination of
Gaming Gladiators and former Tundra, and I feel like we saw more of the Tundra side
of things in this one. Like, Gaming Gladiators is more about grouping up early
and punishing you with that lead, but instead they got that early lead.
It felt like Team Spirit were getting all the kills, and yet the net worth was not
moving, and then the second they get the kill on Laurel on Earth Spirit, and then
Yatoro tries to come in and salvage the situation, gets sprouted for five
seconds to BKB. I felt like the game just entirely fell apart from there and yeah I don't know that
just looked like a lot of things went right for Team Spirit and then they still lost so that was
pretty scary for me personally so. No I agree I think they kind of lost in the sequences where
you'd expect Team Spirit. It kind of got to the point where we're like oh okay now this is a
Team Spirit game you know like they actually stopped bleeding you know Yatora's getting his items
you know collapses back on track from a pretty poor leading phase and
Actually, it looked like this was like the worst time of the game for teams for essentially when it came to the
Scaling part they got their items they got their timings. So it kind of it it makes you wonder
Who's more comfortable going into the late game? Is it spirit or is it the end?
It's because if it's not spirit that then I don't really know
What you know, what is there strong suit in this matchup in that case if it's not the lead game
Yeah, it kind of felt like the core element of Team Spirit was shook in this game.
I think so. I think it was a big statement by Endex. It's like, yeah, we don't mind this game
drying on and we don't mind getting to the Teamfight 5v5 sequences. We're more comfortable
than you playing these sequences, so I think that was pretty scary.
A little faster as well.
Yes.
I think the part for me that was the most surprising is when the Endex has done this so far,
from what I've seen, it was always with Watson on a Hyper Lake end carry, one that is meant to
to have a rough start or slower start like Phantom Lancer for instance but seeing him
on a tempo carry be so high net worth and then also still play comfortably for the late game.
From an outside look at it I don't see a weakness from Team Unix and like you said if Team Spirit
doesn't feel comfortable in the late game it's a tough task to go into game two and strategize
for that. Yeah and we knew that Unix was going to do fine on the net worth that's what you get
when you have a nature's profit you just get a little bit of that extra gold so that part makes
sense. But the moves, Yannick's was disabled. I don't know, they were able to dodge and they
were able to, when they did make moves, those were the ones that ended up getting the advantage
in the favor of Yannick's, of course. Yeah, they have a really good understanding on when to strike
and where to strike. Like all the moves landed pretty much. I mean, as we said, they had a very
quiet, quiet sequence, post-laning phase, pretty much where they kind of let Team Spirit dictate
the pace of the game. They were a little bit, you know, getting picked off here and there. It's
It's meant to happen, you know, teams where they have a lot of catch heroes, like you think of Hoodwink,
you think of Earth Spirit, even, you know, the tide with the Blink Shard.
And eventually they got their timings, like essentially, you know, it was like BKB on Ember,
Heart on Centaur, Aghanim's on Rana, the Prophet was already pretty far ahead, and they clipped the smoke,
and that smoke led to three kills, a tier two tower, five kills, like however, you know, five kills difference,
like all of a sudden, you know, one smoke just turned the game around completely.
And it's because they attacked the exact, you know, the best area of the map. They found the key heroes
I think it was a little bit of a mistake also from your total to be honest because he doesn't really have to go in
He decided to go in got sprout got sprouted and just like ended up dying when honestly it was
his strongest timing in the game, so a
little bit sloppy from Tim Spirt in a sense
They had really good early game in my opinion and really good first like 25 to 30 minutes
There was also the Aegis nap
I think a big turnaround to the game also because Team Spirit were in the driving seat and they did not get Diego so they couldn't push the tempo even higher.
Just a very well executed and a lot of touches all around from both teams essentially.
It really was. I think that Team Spirit had a very tough job ahead of them to try and figure out in pinpoint exactly what they can fix in the short 15 minutes.
So definitely a tough ask, we're going to re-watch some of the moments that were so pivotable.
Pivotable? Pivotal in this game, but we're going to start with the rune experience.
Yeah, it was quite the experience for Q2 at the day.
So I mean, Yandex, it is to be expected, I think, you know, these are great contesting, like,
with them contesting heroes and thinking of the Earth Spirit, he sits there with the shield,
the Undying that can place the Tombstone, and obviously the Prophet that can also TP.
And don't forget, we're going to watch the Treants also.
They are incredibly strong in the early game, and they take down any hero if you're not able to kill them.
So we see the Wizard of Rune is spawning.
Chair Jr. is looking at it.
Madly is already there, and he understands that Undying, that they cannot take this fight.
So he kind of sacrifices his life to give Watson a later entry.
And you know, Team Spirit, they're trying to contest this rune, but they're tanking the full fire, you know,
like the shield, the fire shield from Ember, the entire time the trients are going at it,
the Undying did a lot of damage obviously with DK and he cannot prepare them to die.
And all of a sudden that is Watson getting a triple kill and eventually collapse trying
to get the creep waves that are just dying to the tower.
Dying also, so that's like ultra kill from Watson, 7 minutes in the game, it's crazy.
If you look at him, he's the highest level on the map, highest net worth, and it's gonna,
this is exactly what you want as nature prophet, you know, you, you accelerate to the point
you're almost unstoppable. I want to show you like a second clip which is much later in the game but I think
to me it was the pivotal moment of the game which was a team spirit really making a comeback on the
back of some really clutch kills. They're getting the Aegis. It's a big issue for Yandex I think if
they get the Aegis because they can start grouping up taking down tier two towers maybe even attacking
your base and look at your junior you know you know telling collapse you have nothing on me like
I'm not impressed with your Aegis so I can do it as well as you and honestly this was just like
Like this was just based off timings because he has a remnant in the pit, but the arrow from Zaxa has been shot way before, so he had no vision.
This was just him basically counting down in his head, you know, 3, 2, 1, Roche is dying, I'm going in, get C.A. Giz from them,
and honestly I think this is the kind of play that saves a game, and it just writes a completely different story.
So props to him for showing that, yeah, you know, I talked about,
do they have the character to go for these plays and, you know,
clutch it against Spirit because we know Spirit will do it?
Well, the answer is just yes, I guess.
Very poetic to have the ages stolen from Team Spirit.
It says it doesn't happen very often, normally, the other way around.
But I think that's kind of the conclusion of this game, Brian.
Get Yandex out, Spirit Spirit.
Yeah, I had a double check if Ember, Remnant, Lashar gives vision
because it was so perfectly timed from Chira.
I when I'm watching that I do feel like to some degree they did outspirit team spirit
One thing about cheer genius specifically up until this tournament
I haven't gotten to watch him
So I think a lot of people at home are getting their first taste of this guy's clutch factor
He looked like he was being a little bit over aggressive early and maybe there are some nerves involved
Maybe he was just pushing his limits
But he had a couple early deaths and did not get on it's not like he popped off and then just was vibing throughout the entire game
This guy kept his composure in a high stakes game, so you talk about the element of Team Spirit.
I think the most important part of that is that the game does not go smoothly.
Like if Yandex just stomped this one, I don't think it would have really answered our concern,
like if Team Spirit puts them to the test, but I think they got put to the test.
And despite that, despite the ups and downs of the game, he still made that sick play.
I mean, that is literally Spirit, but Yandex doing it.
I'm like the biggest fan of this guy, I share a dream.
I have like a Discord log of, I won't mention the team, like a well-known coach that was asking me,
they were looking for replacing their mid laner potentially, it's like, who do you think? And I'm
like, there's this guy called Shiro Juniors, like three years ago. And I'm like, I think this guy is
like one of the best mids in the world. I don't understand why he's just there playing pubs and
not on, you know, one of the best teams out there. I'm really happy to see him get the success he
deserves. I think he's incredibly good mechanically, but most importantly, there are a lot of good
mechanical mid pairs. I think his macro is just all of this work. Like he has such a good understanding
of Dora on what to do with this hero, what are his timings, how to fight, everything really.
Like I would compare him to Quinn in that sense and Quinn has been dominating the scene for a while
now and yeah he's his um I guess his you know spiritual son in a sense. And he's doing very well
the question is what is Spirit going to do? Is there a simple answer? I mean win hopefully for
them so that we can get a game three and for us in a sense but they're gonna have to step it up.
I think they need to adjust the early game presence.
I think against Yandex, they are that good that he...
Why give them a head start?
Don't give them a head start. Just try to make it a little bit more even.
I think when you draft, you draft yourself like a Tidehunter,
and you open with the large hero, like you just show it to Shira.
So you're gonna have two of your lanes that already are on the back foot.
I don't think it's ideal, especially when your last pair is your Toro at the end of the day.
He's gonna be hitting some creeps like he's there to carry the game
So maybe just try to get a little bit more tempo play so that you can answer like the index early game presence
That would be my bet, but I don't know what do you think?
I mean if we're talking about picking your poison heroes that you kind of know are coming and you're gonna need to know
What to do with it the centaur has been by far the most standout hero for me throughout the entire tournament and in the hands of
DM it's looked
Insanely powerful and on paper. I'm like, okay, which doctor that's gonna own centaur and DM was like number one number two net worth
other than the ultra kill from Watson, he was up there and number one on the CS and I'm like if you can't
Beat this with a pre-planned strategy that on paper should that's what I would remove personally
Yeah, there's there's a lot of roots team spirit can think about and they have a little bit of left
A little bit of time left to think about it very curious see where they will take it before we get to that second game
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Welcome to this single elimination playoff, Suns Fan here with Kazoo.
We have Spirit versus Yannick.
This one, I know I've said it a lot, but it's a doozy.
No, the other days you were coping out of control because those games, they were not
doozy, they were not that good.
But today, it's true.
If we don't have three games, and at least one of the games doesn't go to 52 minutes,
Shannon will take his shirt off.
That's a 52 minute.
I agree to 50.
We need tier 5 items because I get really excited about them, as you know.
You don't, actually.
We're not supposed to hype it up.
We love tier 5 items here.
I do, actually.
He hates them.
Alright, well, we'll see how the match goes.
I hope it's a good one because it's been two O's for us.
We're bad luck, specifically him.
Hello, I'm here with Watson of Team Yandex.
Watson you've had a pretty long career at this point, but this has by far been your best year
You guys were you've been winning tournaments routinely you guys have done really good this tournament so far
How's that field up finally have the success that you deserve?
I'm very happy that I work
Like not for nothing. I would say so yeah, I'm just happy to play. Yeah, I'm happy you're doing great
You guys had a lot of days off here
You won your group so you had a break day and you didn't play the previous what two days
So, how has that time been spent for you guys?
We were playing pubs, we played scrims, we went to some restaurant as a team, just like
two eat together.
Yeah, we just were playing.
That's good.
Do you feel confident still despite the breaks?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay, it doesn't affect you guys, that's good.
1W and Aurora got knocked out yesterday.
Big surprises.
I feel like you guys are the best team left in the tournament.
Do you think your chances are really good for going far?
Maybe. I don't know.
Depends on the games?
Yeah. We will try to show good results.
Okay, that's what we hope to. Well, thank you for joining me and good luck in your matches.
Team Spirit and Yandex on stage for elimination with Yandex won the game up, we are ready
to go into that second game of this best of three of the grand quarter finals we have
in front of us and game one I think played out a little bit differently than we were
expecting obviously very clean and controlled by Yandex and we did not see the Team Spirit
oaf that we normally enjoy watching so much then.
I mean, it felt like we were going to get it at some point, you know, like they had a really rough start to the game.
And I think their heroes kind of, it was unavoidable in a sense, but then they brought it back.
Like, they, you know, a lot of cool sequences.
I think not me played again, exceptional.
I think he really carried them in the early game.
Like he won his lane, you know, made some really cool rotations, turned the mid matchup essentially.
Like, anyways, like he had a great win.
But when it came to, you know, really cementing that, getting the Aegis and transitioning into
mid-game domination, well, a couple very clutch moments from the end experience really stopped
that train and then the game was more even and when it was their time to strike, they
nailed it.
Did we think then that for Team Spirit, if you look back at this game, Brian, that they're,
for example, going to be quite happy with at least the draft and they feel like maybe
they fell short on the, I mean, not letting their ages get stolen, or the sequences that
Sam's talking about.
I never like to just chop it up to the draft.
I think a lot of times that can be very dismissive of the intricacy of the game, but also at
the same time, if you're getting a double kill on Tide, Hoodlink, at like minute three
or four, and then three minutes later, Watson's three levels ahead and double your net worth,
I feel like there's something fundamentally wrong if you're picking your off-laner last,
Like you said, it's Nature's Prophet not dying. Is there a single offlaner in the game that you're like, I'm excited to
No.
Counter-pick this.
As a fellow offlaner, I'm telling you, the jungle is what you're excited about when you have to face that thing.
You're super excited about the jungle and the stacks.
I can love the jungle camps that are recovering on the side there. Those have been legendary for offlaner.
Nothing can go there and Prophet has been back.
Yes, he has been back.
That was it, guys. I don't want to see this hero ever again on my screen. Thank you very much.
Yeah, I will tell you the other first respawns. So we have actually got the teams on the same sides, but the pick order got reversed.
So other heroes that are left in the pool that we did see first base ban previously was the Snapfire and the Invoker.
So those are interesting to note, and Alon drew it also still, and it is a hero that Yandex has routinely left in and also has routinely beaten.
Yeah, I mean, I think to me the adjustments, like the team search last game, they opened with the large hero.
I I mean they kind of kept us guessing and to be fair maybe they didn't but the index were banning
You know like mid heroes, so we thought maybe they have an insider information and it could be a collapse or split
I don't know if that was the case or not either way
If it was not a flex and if it was like just straight up large or split mid
I don't think I'm the biggest on that approach for split
I think when you play versus like the more teams are gonna face the index
probably they'll realize that I think
share junior like you have to you can't
just give him a free game or a really
good matchup whether it's his one versus
one mid or enemy supports and he's
picking up the runes and he's creating
pressure and opening up the map like
again I'm comparing it to Quinn because
people are very familiar with Quinn's
you know playstyle he's dominated the
scene for a couple years couple seasons
with gaming gladiator and it was all
about enabling inside lanes you know
enabling diraccio enabling ace it's
pretty much the same here with cheer
And I think either you pick something like that that you know no matter what you will crush the lane because I don't think snap has
Bad matchups or you need to protect large
You know like matchup a little bit more in the trust I
Agree with everything you said and I you know we talked about picking your poison
I thought it was interesting when I looked through all the drafts for free index throughout the group stage so far and
Yes, they've been routinely beating low druid
but everybody that they've been playing against, when left in the pool, first picked Loan Druid.
Nobody's actually experimented with just not banning it and not picking it.
I thought they might take this approach because at the end of the day, the index has proven almost unbeatable
at the strats that they have presented thus far.
So maybe, yeah, a hero that's been routinely banned.
There's perhaps like scrim context that they have that we don't know about.
But the fact that Loan Druid's still in the pool and it still wasn't taken by the index,
by Enix, I think they just don't particularly respect this hero in terms of like they think
it's been solved and you know at the end of the day Team Spirit elects to ban it. I think the
Lackardy Bear would have been absolutely terrifying but we've often we saw this happen at Dream League
which was the first tier one event that Snapfire became meta where she was used as a Huskar,
pseudo Huskar in terms of dominating the melee heroes and then people were picking like Invoker,
Tinker, Zeus, like backline spellcasters that trade about evenly with Snapfire and then later on the game outscaler
So you mentioned the flex potential that you wish they had in game one with your spirit on the side of Team Spirit
I'm hoping that they're worth considering the snapfire being flexed to something else and not just slamming it for Laurel here
Yeah, no, it's very much possibility
I do think that in this matchup against Invoker, like Snap will have the upper hand anyway
It's just it it turns out a certain point. I think once invoker starts getting levels maybe level seven level eight
This is when the snap is not really as free like you have to
Worry maybe safe cookie because like the way snap dominate lane is by being able to spam both spells
It's like you cookie on top of the other hero you click your
You know your scatter blast. Thank you. I was gonna say a little shredder
And then it's just an overwhelming amount of damage. You clear the creep waves, you just basically cruise through the mid lane.
But against Invoker I think it's pretty scary because if your cookie is on cooldown, all of a sudden call snap goes like the wall.
Any support that comes in, snaps just come by. So I like this adaptation, like this answer I mean from Yandex against snap.
I think it's gonna make our second guess how aggressive he wants to play.
wants to play because this is a hero that can punish snapfire very easily with a little
bit of help from Saxa or Melody.
Yeah, I think it's... the indexes approach to drafting is so interesting because I think
most of the time this would be a snapfire mid for Laurel and just like last game we saw
the airspear come out and they last round banned off laners or sorry mid laners instead
saying like if you leave airspear mid we have no problem with this.
I think they're kind of making the same statement by banning Puck and saying if you leave snapfire
mid, we're perfectly happy with that. This is the one mid laner we think outscales in
Voker, we're gonna remove it. Exactly, yeah. And it's also maybe related to the supports
that they want to pick, because usually you care about puck only if it's the freest puck
game. I think especially now where the hero has a pretty bad luna rate, it hasn't really
looked very strong unless it's just so good that it's completely uncontested. They go
back for the centaur, this is one of their, you know, trademark, and it's their way of
They make a lot of space for Watson unless he already know which hero he wants.
Last game, to be fair, even though Profit was first picked, we talked about how it was being flexed until the very last pick.
And they ended up picking Mirana for Saxa and decided, you know, because Watson was probably like,
yeah, I like Profit position 1 this game, so give it to me.
But he could have also selected his hero, Ultimate Last Pick.
And this is what DM also does for that team.
Like Saxa has been really known, right, with 33 back in the days for having their lanes,
that they know how to play by heart and they will play it versus anything.
They just pick these heroes no matter what, like they don't care what they're facing
and it's always stable. I think they were able to replicate that here in this team with DM.
We're like, they have their laning combos, like they have Centaur Grana, God of something,
and it's like, we don't care what we face, we just blindly pick it, we're stable,
we're either winning the lane or trading even, and that leaves so much space for Watson,
for yeah, just coming up with these gotcha picks that are coming much later in the draft.
The pango, we've seen Pangolier yesterday in the hands of Collapse and day before that
in the hands of Mid1 on this stream and the hero is very good and very impactful and Collapse
on it of course yesterday as well dominating streak at some point too.
And it was against Invoker also, it was against Liquid, they first picked Invoker and Spirit
instantly responded with the pango so yeah they're doing it again, they won that game
also.
And more flex potential coming out again.
It's one of their answer, yeah. Bangovers in the Voker.
I mean, it's one way to make sure you get on top of that hero and lock him down, essentially.
Yeah.
How is Team Spirit going to deal with the Centaur?
Because we mentioned a couple times, I feel like we're watching a little bit of a repeat
here with the Undying coming out as well.
But the Centaur already, I mean, we see the emulate previous game, we know, we've seen
him in the group stage and this hero as well, he's just incredibly strong.
How are you dealing with it?
Yeah, I mean, it's funny because DMs,
I think the first one I saw that didn't just always rush hard,
he usually stopped back for a Lotus Orb against,
a lot of the lineups would buy like a Spirit Vessel
or have substantial DOTs that can tick damage
since they're out in the like 15 to 20 minute mark.
And I'm like thinking about what hero combo in the game
deals with the potential of a Lotus Orb Centaur
who's like 2000 HP with a bunch of armor and stampede
and a Dispel, and a 3500 HP Centaur with a heart.
Like, what lineup deals with both of these?
I don't actually know.
I think Pangolir's a cool solution
because just burning his mana does address
both of those things.
One of the few heroes in the game
that buys an early Diffusal still nowadays.
Now, we talked about Collapse playing the Pango.
I think he's one of the generally better laners
against Undying.
Like, you can disengage the Tombstone.
You're not gonna win the lane, I don't think.
But often times you can at least get away with, like, get out of the lane decently.
Now, I have some PTSD, but I don't know if you knew it was me,
but I picked Fizz as Void against you in a pub like two weeks ago,
and you dumpstered me in lane.
What was I playing?
You played Beastmaster.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's, that's dirty.
So apologies for that.
It's a very beast-favorite matchup.
So luckily for your Toro, I guess not as bad against Simpar or...
I think it's not amazing.
Okay, let's put it this way.
Again, some center lane, I think when the center lane has kill potential, let's say, I'm thinking center, lion, center, or else that is these kind of lanes that are gonna lock the void down and make sure he doesn't get his time dilation off.
It can be very good because center obviously has an overwhelming amount of damage on the lane, especially if he's allowed to go stun and double edge.
We've seen it yesterday, like where they would get two points in double edge and that's like 700 damage or something when they double edge into stun into double edge again.
I don't think it's the case with Tekkis, I think if Team Spirit is ready and either they have a good ward or the position 5 is keeping track of the suicide, like the blast off possibility from Tekkis.
I think Ithoro is just gonna do okay on the same. He's maybe gonna lose a little bit on last hits just because Santor is, you know, it's just Dora for dummies.
The hero has insane base damage, insane HP regen, great attack animation, it's just hard to contest, but I think the voice is gonna get through it again.
interesting like the approach we've seen throughout this tournament like even
last game we saw undying major profit in the safe lane like very oppressive
lanes the drowsy sfs all getting down out the loanjureds but faces boy I'd say
it's about the polar opposite of these in regards to the way that he approaches
the lane it's great against invoker and game it pairs very well with snapfire
you have hoodwink as well to dish the damage out you have like a primary
initiator that causes chaos that will set up for the chrono with the with the
pangolier like on paper the faces boy it makes a lot of sense and I was personally
surprised a bit that we didn't see it more in this tournament I think we've
only seen it picked one time but I think there's a reason for this and it's
usually just the laning phase so that's why like I agree with everything you said
I think even if he gets out of the lane I believe the Centaur is now granted
free farm yeah we'll do it now it's a very slow hero like it doesn't really fit
the meta in a sense but the one upside for spirit is that they have snapfire
which I think like morning merches and chrono you know obviously very known
combo and aura has been abused over the years. I think snap makes void not as slow as because
now you don't have to rely on void getting items like every chrono will be a kill like if when
they both have their ultimates invoker will die even centaur will die so in that sense I think it's
not as greedy as it looks like if it wasn't a snapfire if it was anything else really then I
would be very worried for spirit but I think the snapfire enables the void trick. Do you want
and the snapfire to be 5 or are we looking for a new 5 because for example jikiro and witch doctor
both also are great with the chronosphere. I think it almost has to be mid in a sense like they
really need this snap ulti and the snap spells I mean if it's 5 and it has a bad game for any
reason then their lineup is so slow like it's going to be troublesome but with snap mid I think
no matter what happens to avoid in the early game every chrono will be a kill on a core so in that
sense they will be able to stabilize the game a little bit. Yeah a lot of carries that can't
innately defend their tower with spells like or like with wave clear need some way to make it so
you don't just walk in and kill the tier tier one in like seven minutes and that is the chronosphere
kill threat so I agree with you said that if this is not a snap mid then that window is going to be
very punishable they end up going for the lich I think they have a lot of options here. Yeah this
is cool. This is a lot of team fights like snap ulti, lich ulti you know like chrono is going to
to be deadly. You have to watch out and respect it if you re-index. I don't think the Tombstone
save is really... I don't think it works against Chrono. I think the range is not that amazing.
It might be a factor if they're on the edge of the Chrono, but essentially I would say
it's a really good Chrono game. It's super enabled by the heroes that have been picked
on the Spirit side. Taking a page out of Runeader's book. They have run Lich twice,
very successfully. I think this hero is quite underrated, if you ask me, but yeah, I'm glad
to see that. I think it's maybe undervalued this room.
I absolutely own with it yesterday, and Malady has a five. He's been playing very greedily.
Like he's going blink dagger and E on this class game, like not a single support item
in his inventory. What we see from Lich is just blink shard, and you actually represent
solo kill threat on most heroes. I'm wondering if the NX goes back for something like the
fan lancer, a hero that, like right now, if they see your heroes, they have so much damage
on the side of Team Spirit, they're going to kill the hero if they see it.
So I'm wondering if they go for that chaos deceptive game, which I said in the form
of Peel being with illusions, I like Plinks because it's a ranged carry that pairs well
with the Undying Lane, but it also plays off map.
It's not easy to catch them.
If you do, sure, but they're going to, I think they're going to be playing that split dodge
game that we saw from the last game on Yandex and kind of that Assassin find that one Centaur
Stomp.
They didn't really have the best follow up to it without Watson's pick.
So I can see what they're going for, but this game is going to be all about the information.
Do Team Spirit get the teamfights they want? Because like you said, it's an overwhelming amount of teamfight coming from them.
And based on previous game, previous game we thought the drafts were pretty even, now that we know how previous game went, is this an even draft?
If this was anyone else in Team Spirit, I would say the drafts are even, but I think Team Spirit got exactly what they wanted.
Like, they have ways to make the game stable. I think they have a lot of cool spells.
Unless they really crumble in the laning phase, that would be the one opening, like the one weakness that their draft could have.
but again, I don't think they're supposed to, I think they have very solid lanes.
If they get their spells and their ultimate ready and they're able to make the game somewhat stable,
because the endex they have like a very powerful lineup,
I guess the pressure is gonna come very early on Spirit,
but they are the best team in the world at weathering the storm,
getting to their timings, I don't think they're gonna,
you're gonna see them get picked off around the map to some invoker clings,
like they're very disciplined, they're gonna place the proper awards, the proper sentries,
wait patiently for a good trono,
And eventually it's going to be the otoro show because I think at this point that there's a moment in this game where it's just going to be a
Unstoppable faces void. I don't know if you agree with that, but I feel like if you get six thought or something
It's just over this void. It's just gonna kill everything
Well, we're gonna find out what's gonna happen here as we are ready for game number two and see if the defending champions will continue here
At ewc for a game three or if young necks will take this one two and oh we're having over to sounds fine kezu
Thank you, Shiva. As we get into game number two here, very shortly between Spirit and Yandex,
Sunspan with because we have a very important question before the game can go live. How many
different hairdos has Yatoro had throughout his career? He's had quite a few, but let's check
into the super search of our Lenovo Legion, of course, which when I type it in here, how many
hair styles, your Toro Dota 2, we're at 7. He's had blue, blonde, brown, bald, red, and
silver. Silver, that's a color. That is a color here. It's not gray. It's silver. It's
silver. Okay, let's get into the game here. What's wrong with this guy? Silver. As Game
of Mord of course went to Yandex and Spirit need to win this to stay alive to force a
Game number three, do you think they will do it with this craft?
Ooh, this is a...
It's a tough one. I do like what Spirit have and I...
I got a hope that they will push us to a game three.
First of all, I want to be selfish, I want to see more.
We've only seen 2-0s, I don't want to see 2-0s in games a week.
You're accursed.
And second of all, be quiet, I'm talking.
Your total face is what he hasn't played it for two months.
He's been waiting, he's been practicing with the anime arc
and you only bust this shit out in the last moment.
They don't see it coming, you're down 0-1, you get 3 bounties, it was BOOM baby!
You pick Faces Void, you buy a bad Zafiri, which he has queued up right now, and you slap it in the head.
Okay, well if they can hang on long enough, it'll get some good farm eventually, but is there too much pace on Yan-X's side?
I mean, that brings up a good point. If they didn't have Chrono with the snapfire ult with Chain Frost, this would be way too slow to hear on this meta, it feels like.
Now the good thing with Void is, there's two things.
First of all, he has a lot of backup, you know, when it comes to smaller spells and also skirmishes.
You have great teamfight with the tango. You have two great supports, and most importantly, the snapfire.
And secondary, maybe your first blood.
And he's gonna time walk in to try to take out Soxa, the hoof stomp being faked out.
Gonna use it after the lich instead. Soxa is fighting under the tier one tower.
So no first blood quite yet. I mean, that would be shocking if Void gets the first blood.
There was still very good pressure, but he did lose a couple of CS in the tower, I believe, at least two.
But yeah, so the other point of Void, it's a very good time dilation game, especially against Invoker.
If you get a cutoff level later, you can also counter play without the Chrono.
But one of the many good things that Yandex has for themselves is, first of all, case.
You have Clings who can play very quickly. You have very good Sunstrike setups as well with the Hoofstarm, and also potentially no with the Techies.
But on top of that, they have insane Roach capabilities. You have Clings and Undying again.
And one of the biggest colors to void of course is the ages against the chrono
Very true
Collapse hoping for a better start to this game. He already is level two
So that's already better than last game on that time. Yeah, very struggle bus city for him
Is that a thing struggle bus city? I'm at this now
We'll just go never you use it, but you made it you made me chuckle so that that counts as a W
and Laurel the snapfire this is what I'm most interested in how
Now, this is not a hero that we get to see all too often in the mid lane, how does it
go against Invoker, how does it go with the game outside of the Chronosphere?
You definitely win this lane, you used to win it even harder when your innate worked
on Denyce, which now it doesn't, but you still win this lane, obviously Invoker doesn't
interact with you all that much like when you make early moves, Invoker is greedy, so
Sapphire and Narl is going to be up to a greater, and also it was bad actually in game 1 against
Spirit, so this time around they did get their hands on it.
And I would expect a lot to have a very explosive early game.
Off to a pretty good start.
13 and 3 CS versus the 10 and 1 of Chura.
You talk about the Sunstrike capabilities or the setups rather with the blast off, with
the hoof stomp.
Is that enough to, I mean it's not like you have a chronic chrono into that, but I wouldn't
have been pretty sick.
I mean the thing, so they have okay setup and also like the thing is this is CJ's absolute
best heroes.
Like when this guy showed up in pubs, it was Pango, Puck and his Invoker.
So giving this hero up in an elimination game and when you're down one game against them
is definitely a little bit of a bold statement, but they did find a couple of good answers.
Pango, Snap and Void, I would all consider them to be good core matchups into the Invoker.
Nice cookie from Laura, gonna pressure Chira a bit here with that scatter blast.
And I assume that, I mean what exactly the build you go for?
In this late game we've seen the right click variation, but they do already have a lot of physical damage in the Pango and the Void, they really want to triple up on that.
I wouldn't mind if he just goes magic build, that's also what he has queued up at the moment, which is the most normal, travels, blinks, shard, and you go like kaya yasha, you can go for a vkb later.
The talents you have on snapfire is incredibly strong, and I don't think you need more physical follow up currently, you also have pango later, so that should be what Laurel is eyeing up at the moment.
Blink is also like so good on his hero.
It feels like more of a utility build, technically speaking, but from the mid-lane so you just
get it at an accelerated pace, and it's collapsed able to delete a courier for the time being.
Malady, again playing the Undying, had a... I mean, he was one in ten in that game, but
he played well.
He played absolutely out of...
That's right.
That's right.
Will hit, collapsed, and that is going to be first blood for Chirac, who denies a water
rune and gets another.
So, off to a pretty damn good start for him.
Yeah, a very big sequence for him and maybe even while you know he's walking around to get to Water Room
maybe Laurel doesn't have like full vision of CJ because usually when you play these matchups you are yelling
Sounds right, sounds right. They're in that moment. So because you just see Collapse, he's walking straight, one line, nothing's happening
so CJ finding a perfect moment.
What you're saying is Laurel's fault for not saying it.
He definitely could have made a difference, but maybe he didn't see him or maybe he said it and the reaction time wasn't great.
Yeah, maybe it's Collapse's fault. This guy sucks.
It's time for acolation. Onto two here. He talks about how powerful that spell is this game against me and Volker against, I mean on dying has decay and very little cooldown.
It's good against all the heroes, I'm not gonna lie.
Yep, has blast off, gonna connect from Soxa. As DM is there with a hoofstomp and they will clean up Rue in turn, Yotaro trying to get the job done on Soxa, but the Lotus keeps him safe.
You'll be pressured out, gets off that time lock.
So, I told that thought, looked like it too, very nicely done on the Malady.
And Watson now getting blocked up by Collapse.
We'll be able to get back to this Tier 1.
Not quite, still very good pressure, getting some kill here and you also see that Watson is on the overall low HP.
Is there, if you're picking Void, which again is not the most common thing, is Battle Fury just the way to go or is there actually a choice here?
I don't think you always need to go Battle Fury.
I still like, you know, the overall Nelstrom into Mjolnir's overall a good build.
We've also seen some games with like Dominator, but for now.
I do think if you're playing Void in Smash, we need some type of HP region,
which is why the Ring of Health should be pretty nice.
Because going up against Centaur, like Void does not pressure this hero,
which means DM should be up to a very good early game.
Yeah, are we getting to Territory? I mean, I guess it depends on how this game goes,
but are we gonna start seeing Centaur Bands in the earlier state?
I think we need to start seeing centaur bands or like high physical damage heroes that shred this guy
Like maybe some TA plus one and potential lanes or maybe if you pick on dying on your side
That helps actually is you see the cold snap going to work on not me. He's gonna be cleaned up easily
As he did get to steal the rune at the very least for the spirit side
And Laurel is level six so Mortimer kisses online
Sun strike will be shared by the creeps a collapse lives
Yep.
Nicely done to just make sure even if the Sun Strike is there, of course it will be there.
Considering, I mean we talked about Void being really slow here, but because of all these combos,
do you think that there's any opportunity for your Toro to kind of TP to mid lane,
get a time walk into a chrono, into the Laurel ult?
Absolutely, I do think it will be there.
And we're going to see the first Ordemers' Kisses as a nice gaze there from Rue to help set it up.
It's definitely, like you were looking for it, right?
You'll be happy free-forming, but if a play opens itself up,
up you're definitely going there CJ definitely over playing here quite a bit
might get you becoming in class gets off the swastika tornado hit all three
trifecta but the cookie does hit that many glass comes out right after it's
enough for him to walk away well I was saying he's over playing but he made the
best of that was in the meantime look what happened to the wisdom shrines
here's the wisdom shrine bot himself program to do one thing one thing only
It doesn't matter if he dies ten times in a game
He will be going to the wisdom shrine every seven minutes
He will be there even without the tombstone this time around so you might as well give global vision to spirit because you know
He's gonna be there
I'm just making it work though because very very costly you're bringing so many heroes mid tutors and Volker using your TPs using resources
They're gonna spot him here squash buckles gets into relatively low HP and
Now they will fall
They do have so the first time he's back, which is very nice, but they do have to snap old against the center early on
It's also another thing like he just reaches the state very early where you can't really kill him
But snap old honestly if you have a snap mid you don't care what heroes the enemy team has if you have any stun or slow
With a snap hold on top that hero is dead children
Oh, Chira just put does pick it up in time and now the cool step on the laurel with the tombstone as well
That's what you'll go into a cookie onto to fully the chain frost
Here we go!
Yatoro is level 6, might not even need to use anything drastic here as Shura Jr. getting
chased.
There's the Chrono onto 2.
Not that much follow up, but the stupid thing here is the Stampede is going to be there
but not in the time as Galax gets the kill with the Swatchbuckle.
A nice turnaround here from Spirit.
Very disciplined on the Chrono Sphere.
Yatoro was waiting 10 years for the Taser to plop and then the one hit on CJ while he
Stampede was a bash.
I'm pretty sure without that badge, he actually would not have died.
This is why you...
pseudo-random for the win, I guess.
Yeah, sure. I guess when you were your Toro team's third and that one came at EWC, you primed that shit.
Yeah, let's see this replay here.
Yeah, it is a nice rotation, but now watch this.
He's just waiting forever for the taser to dodge this on there.
And now watch the badge.
Come on, what am I watching?
Genius. Genius white player.
Very genius.
Yes, Yandex. Not in the same position that they were in last game. They had a 1-2K lead
at this point and started snowballing just slightly.
They did have an ultra kill on Watson in at 7.
Yeah, that does help. Watson only 0-0 at this point, so not the same impact.
I'm not used to seeing socks that play techies.
Yeah, not really. I wonder kind of what the problem is with that, like early on in the draft.
draft as we can see a lot of heroes here in the same plane and it is nice if you
can do this to Centaur where you you know you pressure him a little bit
obviously you can still pull some creep waves around and whatnot but getting
some aggressive moves without needing to use the snaphold it still means that
everyone else has to be in danger and at least be threatening and respecting it
as Laurel unlocks a little shredder level against a stupid tombstone from
Malady. True, a nice little counter for them as the game progresses.
The Toro has the Perseverance now. Left 2 his own devices for the most part, outside
of that one gank in the mid lane. But then again, so has DM. And that's exactly what
Centaur exists to do in this current meta.
I guess that is one way to go about it. It is not easy to pressure Centaur, but if you
can make sure that you have this ultra carry matchup, which Void generally is, so if you're
trading farm or maybe losing slightly, it's okay because you have to void matchup. We can see here that
Watson is looking for a move. I don't know if the scan clipped him earlier,
but obviously if the fight breaks out in 10 seconds they have prono, so if you don't burst him,
there's a lot of counterplay available. Chainfrost also up.
Wrapping around. Kitaro seems to be somewhat aware of this possibility.
Well, he shows himself, goes to the courier, but he's going to get greeted by a couple of members
on the high ground. It's not a decent amount of energy on Kalar, they get the connection.
I'll tell you, Taro, when he gets bursted into the ground,
Horamus kisses, comes out though, as Watson just gonna be buried underneath the blue fire
as the chain frost doing work as well. Not me with the
sharp shooter to finish the job onto the Centaur, so a three for two in favor of Spirit.
They could not have asked for a better start to that fight as Malady wants to keep it going for now.
Like killing Yatora's Void from full 2-0 with a beautiful blast off, but you can still see their supports are there's so much damage in these three supports on the spirit side.
I call them three supports, it's a mid-snapfire.
In a way. Yeah, but he does play more to help your team out, because here this looks like a disaster.
That once he goes up to high ground into like two supports, but this chain frost went ultra-ham.
3,000 damage from Ruin this fight with the snap, it's literally one support and they're just killing everybody.
Yeah, very nice clean up there for Spirit.
Wonder if DM, cause currently he has the heart queued up and we've seen some deviation early, Lotus or maybe a heart.
Pipe is Ultra Giga against his team spirit lineup, could help you to survive the Chrono Chain Frost combo
And also the chrono kisses as we have ultra ultra stacks here in the region triangle
Looks like these often for heart first actually
Yeah, I wonder if you will change that around if you go hard even go pipe after I feel like I never see that
No, I because you can also go like you can go ring of thoracic and then still decide which one do you turn it into if you're buying pipe
It's definitely early because then you would use it to kind of over push into these fights
But it could just be we've seen it in some of the other games people decide to go for like the more scaling stuff for themselves
and just push it through, go for the late game, scale it up, get fat on all of them.
It's kind of what they did last game too. They didn't really fight that much into spirit.
Yeah. They were just happy farming.
Melanie's gonna go for some stacks here. Watson in the meantime on the clinks,
about to finish, well not actually about, 1300 away for finishing the desolator.
And for his counterpart Inyotoro is a broadsword essentially away from finishing the battle
theory which means he can actually start farming at that point because right now it's quite pitiful.
He's quite happy or most cores are fairly happy with how the game is going even collapse you
know being down on the net worth that's ever the fuse of blade but CJ is whittling down this
mid-tier one tower over and over. Speaking of heroes to Steel Ages is I'd say Pangos right up there.
Probably like top three even right you can always go in just super mobile you've got the rolling
Thunder to back it up and you're stunning everyone who's not DKB'd.
Spirit with the smoke, we'll cheer at Junior, takes the time dilation and the brawler.
Mortimer's not even needed really. Easy pick off her spirit and it's a big kill.
Yep, that was a four-old style of the drain and C. P. Anics can turn it into something.
LECJ while being dead gets to play the four-squrds.
Sox the blast off with the mines, that's a lot of damage, not quite enough to get the kill though,
No, not me, gonna try to turn around to Soxa instead, scatter blast the Stampede to keep him safe.
Wait, where is Malady?
Yeah, he's not here.
Malady?
He gave the program to Watson's computer for his Mr. Trine.
Inserted virus and Watson loses control of mouse and heads towards with the Lysim Trine randomly.
Interesting.
Does get it.
And CJ, while he was there, took the enemy meteor one tower and denied an arcane rune with the forge bird.
So it's important that while you're dead, don't tab out, don't walk off the stage, stay up there, control your forges.
forges
will take all of you guys at home stop tapping out for the you tubes and the
spotify songs they locked in
that a lot of people do that all they do that
very sad times you live in
a lot of brain rock going on here rolling your tiktok
it was a thousand step definitely no brain rot in us
it's all on it cold snap into the tornado they have a stun connection
do they have to damage absolutely with a media hammer finishing the job cheera
junior
gets a little bit of revenge after that chrono kill
Great move and nice smoke, like just including your invoker there, because you don't have any real instance done.
It was a close-knit into Tornado to set up all these follows done.
Getting a kill on your Torrent of Plotier 1 as Malady finds himself in...
Yeah, he gets a tower defense.
Yeah, that's a big juicy zombie.
We'll defend it successfully.
He goes for shard every game on this here. It's a really interesting. I like it.
It's like... I don't see this on anyone else.
I mean, so Katomri did it the other day as well, and I like it in these drafts,
Because I think, first of all, you're kind of hard to kill, so you're walking in first, and eventually people kind of ignore you, or they want to kill the Tombstone.
It just gives you, like, something else to play for.
And just dodging, like, a chain frost or, like, some snap kisses can be insanely good.
So, might need law to, you know, be within the fight and kill the Tombstone.
Do you think you'll go for, like, an Aether Lens for the Chrono Saves, potentially?
I don't know. Probably not. I think at least without his...
Okay.
put down the tombstone, not me gets cookied in as the sacrifice is malady, and spirit
just comes black out of the shrine, yeah, I'm surprised that's already up again, like
I just heard him laugh a couple minutes ago, Watson wants to open things up, they get the
blast up on that too, with the mines coming out and the sun strike, it's enough, collapsed
dead to rights as Chura Junior finds a little squirrel on the back line as well.
They're clutching right now on the index, you go towards the bottom side first, you
kill the Void, open up the Tier 1, so now you can just leave DM alone, and again, it's
just a cold snap laptop into the bombless combo, and you kill K'Lath from full to zero.
We're going to fortify here, and there's the battle theory for your Toro, which means
fighting time, apparently.
Yeah, I'm surprised you tip it to the side, but this is a very good read from Yandex.
Yeah.
He does have Chrono, so the Chrono Mortimer's.
He can go to work now on this soon-to-be ancient stack.
Soxa.
Yeah, it's so weird to see him playing Techies,
but so far so good for him.
No, definitely. It's kind of on him.
He's had an overall pretty good landing stage,
now finding play after play where they connect
and the force spurts once again,
even though you defended the tower,
they just squeeze out the last hit there.
So gold injection and math play here now.
Should favor Yandex early on.
So it'll be the first item after Battlefury, Manta for you Toro, which I would assume dissuades the...
I'm not even sure, do you go Bloodthorn anymore on Clink? He has the Deso to start.
You definitely still do, but it's more like later on, I would assume that is quite a good Nullifier game for him as well.
You just need to build damage on this hero, whichever way you feel like you'll get that out more quickly when it's a datalus.
Maybe you need a Nullifier because there's some Lich Shield is totally up to you, but you definitely can go Bloodthorn still.
still. And it's definitely good against Pango. He has Shard, or once he gets Shard, won't
be able to use it while silenced, so we'll have to actually upgrade to a disperser eventually
too. Just spell that. I mean, you used to see back in the day Lotus, but you don't want
to buy that on Pango, really. Not really. Only if you're like really needed, and like
you said for now, there's no real like ultra reason for it. Of course, the armor would
be nice. What happened to the Yule's Pango? I mean, it was back in the day when you were
just playing for like this ultra giga chain stun with like the ules I think
nowadays it's still work that way it it still does I mean it's like not as good
as it used to because the stun is like first of all way lower but also it's
just the fact that you want to scale on pangolin you want to go defuse so you
want to go bling you want to go shard agonies and then like whatever luxurious
stuff like octary nullifiers you really wouldn't put thatcher in that category
Definitely it still comes out like around those items
There's the heart coming out for DM as collapse is seen
Fornado not gonna clip him gets off the shield crash just in time to start shooting so much
He gets killed up before the TPs can come in now the camera action onto the newly picked apart from the centaur DM
Taking a lot of damage even the heart not enough for him to survive watch it opens it up on the support
also deletes the lich.
I don't think that's really a good one.
That's a bonus here, but absolutely no follow-up for Yotaro.
So Yandex, they get three for one special.
I'm gonna pressure this tier two.
They've got the way better mid game in this game,
and I'm not only talking about heroes,
I'm talking about execution and what they're doing.
Going here, you find that it's just another fight
where Collector's doesn't do anything.
Watson finds a clean engage, and then Yotaro,
kind of wishful thinking there to go for a turnaround play
of the corona because as long as Soxa is there with the taser you're not really killing anybody.
The index now with a 6k lead feels eerily similar to last game and it feels like a lot of their games
actually. It's kind of close and then one fight just puts them ahead and the questions can spirit
fight back and try to equalize especially with Rochnell on the menu potentially along with the
Tormenter they definitely still can but the problem is that most of their kills will come out from well
First of all you need to roll like if collapse has three fights in a row where he's not getting off any spells
They are in big trouble because you need the team for your total needs time in these fights to deal damage and to look for the right chrono
Because without the game is going now, you know Yannix you've got this laid up you have medallion
It's very easy for you to take the rose now. It's 20 minutes. It's super easy
You've got the zombie as well currently setting up a tournament to play
What's that? So it's kind of intercepting this one.
I'm going to run right into Laurel.
He's off the sticky bomb, but that's all he's going to get off.
Thirty seconds, no techies, but...
...Tromantor already going away, and that's a free shot for DM. That is...
Oh, this feels so good. He's now top net worth.
Like, the thing with Xentor is already...
...and I feel like a broken record, because this hero is nearly top net worth every game.
You get that... Once you get to heart, it's very difficult to kill you.
Now, you just want to go blink and shot. He's super annoying.
get like three stacks, maybe four on the top ledge within the fight.
If DM has a good start to the fight and gets like one or two heroes, collapse.
Oh my, Burns a way to cheer us on, another big kill for Yandex.
They're just getting gamed.
Like in the early game, CJ, they try to gank him, he gets out,
they get the double wisdom shrine, and now here, play after play.
This is an expert invoker that's setting up plays and getting solo kills.
This early on, it's not really something you expect.
And it's just having terrific performance. It just took the
Media to burn him out. That was an insane angle on the death glass because you didn't want to push him straight down
You wanted he needed to push him diagonally with the meteor and he did I mean just showcasing like this guy
He's kind of a goat on a moker. Yeah
yes
Gonna spell trouble for spirit because your Torah is not even close to being online really
I mean when would you consider this here to be online a third item after this manta?
It can be on your third item, but his third item is BKB, which means his damage output is not crazy.
You're not playing with any solar crest, blotlust, and power. That's like kind of letting you skip an item.
And Soxa finds one in the squirrel, and walks up there to help clean up.
Sun strike not gonna hit, not me stuck inside a corner.
The Mortarmer is ripping Soxa a new one as Yatoro able to claim him.
And good turnaround here for Spirit.
The Yandex, if that's all they're gonna give up, then not the end of the world at all.
Yeah, that was a snap old use and you know where all the heroes are so you don't really care.
The CJS Vald is a very annoying combo. The Ghost Walkshark combo with the steering signal, you're just clearing like every creep camp and every creep wave.
Very, very nasty.
I've noticed that Yandex in general really prioritized shards on average.
I wonder if they have like this hero pool where they're just not picking certain here is that their charges sucks ass
Honestly, you're picking Malady. He gets his shard every game really early and I think this is a bad shard
He hasn't used it like it's been through literally nothing used a single time
But it opens up the tormentor to go to somebody that could be even more valuable with the centaur being the center is definitely one of the
ones that I love seeing this early on like the fact that you have a chance to get it
It's definitely ultra nice and there's something about overall how Yannick's played the mid game
I feel like they're very disciplined, but not in like all we're just gonna farm
They farm nicely for map control and then they always squeeze in like one explosive play into backoff wait a bit
Find the same scenario set it up on the map and then do it again very calculated
Stealing some form now from the enemy ancients Chara junior
He's going for the glip glop as you'd like to call life near so extra a we definitely love that one
They're closing in on a gem, or not me, but he will die first.
Watson claims him and see what his progress is.
So effectively a recipe away from a BKB on the clink, and would assume that with that.
Actually, let's see what that ends up aligning with.
Because sure, Jenny's going to have his glib here by that point,
and DM, who just picked up a blink, is already a thousand into, actually more so.
has the ogre club and will get you to a DKB next indeed Kronos here comes out from
your Toro do they have a follow-up there absolutely more than my skips is with
law focusing it with the DKB big kills coming out from spirit into Roche this is
a huge play for them that this is really big because of what it looked like I
think spirit we're gonna go Roche anyway just so it doesn't go to the bottom
side on a 25th minute mark but don't you just kind of handed them free
and see actually gonna try for this now she jumps in but Roche is not even
remotely loads your tour jump on top of Watson gets cookieed right on his face
collapses not gonna survive but they do kill up Watson in the end and DM joining
the party now with the double edge into the hoof stop where's the backup though
he's got a little baby centaur to help out that's about it he gets cookieed
completely stunlocked as Malady shows up in his flesh go home not nearly enough
as spirit a four for one and they're gonna get broach on top of Malady all
likelihood they kill off the tombstone here shortly along with Malady and that
is a full team wipe for Spirit.
I don't know how this team does it.
You definitely have to question at least a little bit what Yanix ended up doing there.
I said when I kill Rosh before he goes all the way to the other pit
in the middle of the river,
I absolutely much need a play here from Spirit.
Finding like this two men go at first onto both CJ and Saats
is quite aggressive,
because this game was really starting to go out of control.
I do think Yatoro needed a Krono here, like there is a VKB available on the CJ.
Yeah, this...
It's so funny to see a Snapfire VKB to get Ulti off, it's just something uncanny about it.
But it's extremely effective when you have a Kronosphere set up.
I wonder why they committed so much on Yannix, after you lost two heroes maybe you just throw in the Tombstone
own or let Malady do it on his own, and just play a little bit more time on both Diem
and Watson.
That's kind of like a little domino effect here.
They just desperately tried to get the delay for Roche to switch spots, but in the end
they didn't really matter.
They lose everybody on their team, and Roche dies mid-river anyway.
Can definitely be one of those things where you are playing against third, you're in the
playoffs, you don't really want to give them anything they don't deserve, because you
know what they can do later if they do get the gold and the time to get there.
Gatoro knows that Shira's nearby, hounding him a bit, Laurel. Joining in on the fun.
They all see each other as both sides have nearly identical wards and
sentries.
Gonna need some high ground vision for that ward but we're back away for now.
As it looks like the lich is going to get dropped here, gets the chain frost off, but to no avail.
And it's still with the 5k lead, but we'll see how much, I mean, any time you have a hero like a faceless boy that you want to get to the late game,
if you could just, even just taking the Aegis away from the enemy to delay.
Any time-
Dying extra time for this hero is huge.
Any time in space is really all that you want.
Now rolling thunder. Watson in a bit of trouble here.
Laurel is nearby doing a lot of right click damage to collapse.
There's the Mortarmer's Kisses.
There's Watson going to try to brush off with that BKB.
Gator looking for a bash, gets the Chronosphere, and that's a kill.
75 seconds on the deck now for Watson.
Xandex trying to open something up on the bot side of the map.
Not happening, though.
That's another...
You know how they knew that Watson was up there?
They have a sentry on their watcher next to the Radiant Wisdom Shrine.
So they knew that he was walking through this area probably because of malady
Probably that ready for the wisdom shrine bot to walk over there
This tier one tower still up but not for long
These are big moves of course they did have to use the frono
Let's see if you annex when I try to do something on that timing actually will be defended
Yeah, don't think malady's going for this shrine this time nope
And you ask about the Yule Scepter, you will receive one as collapsed to just finish it
up.
You're just trying to make sure to live through some of the stun log.
It claims it's also the type of hero, like when you're trying to get away from him, there's
still like 14 projectiles following you.
So you can look to dodge that, which is quite nice.
A little surprising, though, I think.
A little bit.
There's no bloodthorn end up coming out for Watson.
Definitely will be coming out later.
If you get like a cold snap or something like that, you have the shard already on pango.
I think also one thing to learn from the last game,
Tf3 greedy enchantments, they only had three, they now upgraded to four.
Oh wow, that's good.
The only one that doesn't have it is Gatoron.
Basically the only two guys that don't have it are the two hard carries,
because they actually need to hit heroes in the face.
Very interesting mechanic, we have in the game collapse,
Rolling Thunder. That's the Dust. Chira Jr. has to pop the BKB now in retreat with the help of the Stampede as well.
Gets off the tornado, attempting to TP in the cover of the BKB is fine.
That's getting stunned without the Chrono up.
Do need your Toro to at least use one auto attack or a Chrono.
Nice dodge.
himself. TP's coming in, he's gonna get broken next to the sharps, you're just
getting destroyed, but the Huffstump comes out onto your Toro with the meteors as
well. That's life number one. Very little commitment needed from Yann,
and damage onto a Rue completely decimated, now you're Toro getting help
with that bushwhack into the Mortarmer's Kits, is Clink getting bashed up now?
There's the Chronosphere on top. Is this enough damage to kill him off? It is.
Another death for Watson.
Right near onto 2 as Yannix want to continue to fight despite not having their Clink's.
Laurel gets isolated on the other side, gets hooked up into the double legs, looks like he's going to drop his yatoro,
trying to wreck the count, Malady. We'll get that double kill, and it's Collab's attempted TP.
Looks to be fine, nope, the Jules cancels it into the Sun Strike, into the kill for Yandex.
A lot of back and forth in these fights.
There are just some things happening that other players would not pull off.
The fact that Malady dodged the initial bush wreck because he tombed himself was a huge deal.
It meant that like, overcommand, stay on the Undying, stay on the Tombstone,
Because even though Watson died very early on look at this much damage on all the other heroes like DM
If the fight drags on look at this dodge
It's crazy good
It gives them time to like come over with the rest because even here he stays alive
It's a lotus has to go with and they just get one full life for free out of your Toro
Watson cleans up the list very easily but another death for the clings a bit costly for him specifically
But yet I still win this fight. I would think overall at least a little bit
Even like also making sure that it's not just all on the cling to getting more gold more exp on your invoker on your center
So they can start being annoying make it a little bit, you know harder for your tour to play around these fights
We see again socks are using the use easy setup there on CJ
Who is of course locked in here on his invoker
They are large and in charge on some of the heroes.
They have a 20 talents up on the Invoker and on the Centaur.
4400 HP even without using a single double edge here.
So can easily reach the 567k HP on the Centaur.
Now what's it going for next?
It's going to be the Lotus, which I thought might be picked up a little bit earlier because
of time dilation, but not the case. I mean, BKBs have been coming out in full force.
Yeah, they do kind of need it, and I think it's the correct choice. This way he also gives himself a little bit of armor.
Should maybe be looking on the Shiva's later on for one of the heroes, as they don't have one of those yet.
Why don't you have Tarot building, Zen, Ag?
Yeah. I mean, but they swap it around so much, you kind of need to go Ags nowadays on Void. It's way too good.
so many effects you just get the you know you get your kind of old charge how
it used to be and you also get the a we batch which is very nice let's say yeah
next time to fight for this tormentor yeah right boss down well five sharks
coming in so techies techies abbreviation mutual something destruction
assured destruction exactly thank you to the fan out there that you cited us
And you signed his boss, of course.
NA and German education system failing us.
He's looking for a bigger play as a five-man smoke.
Roche can't even be...
Okay, this is the classic Yotaro finding an amplified damage rune.
And DM, I think he's dead.
Okay, he's not dead. Barely gets out with full HP.
I don't know exactly what happened, I thought they would definitely jump in it looked like that
Yatoro like initially turned around maybe someone showed on like the midway for a moment and they were looking at something else
Because I mean we have the vision obviously they don't know if everybody's behind him. You don't want to just chrono a single centaur
Or do you I don't know you could but even then they needed to cancer blink
Maybe also pull in the roof, but you can tell that you know Yannick's making the best of the map
I like their maps currently
You know CJ can always be on one side lane pushing the lane with the ghost walk
Keep your force birds there did get pushed out of it now because they still have this top tier one tower alive
Which you know for Yannick's definitely very very helpful
Now the agonist set for online for you Toro starting to hit pretty hard can
Obviously do the backtrack shenanigans so doesn't have to commit fully to a fight anymore
One of his next items. He's so he's queuing up linkins
which I assume is you know to counteract the hexes that they already have one on
CJ and you know that in the late game like when you play against these some of
these supports especially socks on this game there's a lens a use a force you
know eventually there's gonna be one bigger one which is also a hex but it
does mean that your toros damage up with it it's not that crazy yeah I it's not
gonna question your Toro okay he is the one where this comment is actually true
It should not yeah, so like Lincoln's and then on his last item
Maybe he knows this game is going mega late anyway, so maybe he's waiting for the 60 minutes digit
That's gonna be his damage. That's right. He'll need a little bit of attack speed though additional on top of that
and I
Mean what would you like to see him go for like a butterfly?
Butterfly could work maybe even data this silver edge refresher
I mean even though it was nerfed on a lot of carries it can be a very good leaking choice of course for the void
I guess one of the other things, if you're a Spirit or a Spirit fan, I do think you're
kind of waiting for Collab to start showing his face and his impact in this game.
It's been rather quiet.
In the series, even.
Yeah, it's true.
Like in the tight game, quite shut down.
We were hyping him up with all the Aegis steals.
It's true.
Nice letting us down.
He is closing in on a Nullifier, which of course is quite good.
It's going to help you try to keep some of these heroes in lock, especially also Sox
Since you'll have to entertain her, most importantly, super annoying spell to deal with.
So your turret's clearing the wave.
Actually, smoke on both sides, not fully connected yet onto Yandex though.
That's Roche up in 13 seconds, so Victor of this fight will likely get Roche.
And Malady gave his drip to Sox at this time for the 35 minute wisdom shine.
Yeah, very nice.
Pass it on, young man.
That's hilarious.
35-minute shrine
How much did they even matter anymore? Honestly, it did not that much
I think the first one is like by far the most important one like the first two
Because when you get your first one stolen sometimes you need the second one to get level sixes on your subs
Yeah, next time for good setup. We ask of stop into the Sun strike. That's a kill on to collapse
And he's dead for 70 and Roche is now up
Okay, and spirit defend this dude even want to try meeting
It's going to be difficult without a rolling thunder to work with.
It certainly looks like the artists are going to give it up.
Yannick's are just... they have a very good...
I feel like they're very not just confident but also disciplined.
They have very good reads on when to take one step forward to look at what's going on,
place a quick walk, boom, find the immediate play.
As this is now a free rose for them.
That's one of the benefits of the virus, is discipline apparently.
Yeah, it's a good virus.
every seven minutes at a shrine and in every fight you just go in and out you
don't need to over commit because there's a not me gonna clear some bomb us
Watson with the ages and they have roaches banner as well although I can't
find other it is on Watson as well okay gotta see what Yanis gonna execute with
this and find ourselves a squirrel we'll TP out of course no passion on
Malady yet might see that later. That's a sick looking zombie actually. It is. He's
currently chasing the squirrel into the base. I was committed. Cameraman was not.
That's all right. It would have died anyway. Oh no. That's okay you get the next
special thing which is sent for set. Rolling thunder but the BKB coming out
from Chira Junior. Colossus gonna back away. Gatoro not close enough to commit
to a chrono play. Of course you are fighting into an Aegis as well, so you're gonna have
to defend this bot lane. You got a couple Sieges here. I want to see how Yanix go about
this. They are looking for a smoke. They have multiple big items. You've got the Daedalus
and the Aegis available. You have a Hex also on Siege. So if you do find a correct play,
you're gonna have to stop onto Rue, but cookie safe. Smoke's still active for the majority
of Yandex at the moment. Looking for any kind of an opening.
So your Toro is still looking for this Lincoln. A card also is available on DM. It's probably
flying out to him so he's got another set of save.
Indeed so.
Now he's of course ready to go.
Now Mali's buying a heart himself as well so he's going to be a, he's already a big
bad zombie. He's going to be an even bigger one.
Well, let's recap the scaling of these birds.
Okay, hold.
Just a little poke.
You've got level 25 and the Lincolns on your Toro.
Snapfire Lakeim is also ultra strong.
Like the level 25 talent, you will kill anyone, even if they're DKB'd or they have a heart
of the rasp.
It's a lot of damage and he's got the timeless enchanted bobber.
If he wants to, he can keep this for later and they have insane damage.
Can keep recycling, more spell damage, more debuff duration.
I would like to see that. Now that Ty Long is out of the tournament,
we need somebody that's a successor after all, pass it down.
Gotta have another miracle performance here if they do want to stay in the tournament
for Spirit. It's another Hex completed on Soxa.
Yeah, this Aegis, I mean so far they haven't done...
They've been constricting the map quite a bit. You can see the lead is continuing to grow ever so slowly in the favor of Yandex.
15k at the moment. I definitely don't mind that Yandex aren't like, you know,
doing some weird play where we seen this from other teams right all we have ages
we need to go high ground you just play the map and what is in front of you if
the map looks good if you get a kill you go for that maybe then you can go
high ground otherwise I'm a big fan of the you know you wait for the double
siege wave and then you can drop the banner so minute 40 maybe with that
way if you could look to pole because you could force ferret potentially out of
position to kill the banner on the siege creeps
See Spirit kinda isolated, not able to go too far outside their base, which leaves a
lot of them at 40 and X, they find a squirrel and they get him.
And the gem, apparently.
And the courier, so very much a freebie, that's also Watson, I think he bought an agate acceptor
so could just help them to potentially, you know, go out through the high ground, drop
your army help yourselves with the push. Yeah, Fizz backpacking the treads for now.
And Roche banner play. So the siege has come. What can they do?
Elacrity applied to Watson as well. And you can right click down from very far back.
They're going to open things up with the rolling thunder, but the save comes in with the workforce.
It's enough. Saves out the clink. Obviously he had that second life, but no need to use it right away.
And again, that Rosh banner still up and running to get the bash onto Watson.
That's a very deep troll though, as Watson is a bit of a tunnel.
He gets grabbed out of line, but the last moment his laurel just blows up to the Sun Strike, 80 seconds on the deck.
And now in a 5 vs 3 situation, Yannick's in an extremely good position.
Watson is about to use his Aegis, he tarot claims it with the Timewalk axe.
The Peri-X has been destroyed. Not an easy hold at all. You have no more Panguero
for 40 seconds and Laurel finding himself with some of his bigger
misplaced I've seen in a while. They're just gonna get this with Ford spirits,
not a real commitment needed. Elacrity allows this opportunity to arise for
Yandex. 22k lead. Do they know about the buyback situation though? They do not
because this is a gold related one, only 240 gold away for buyback on large.
Especially like with that type of play, which is already not normal. You would assume that he has buyback
So yeah, Nick's can just keep playing it cool also with how much money they've got loaded up in their bank
You're CJ on 9,000 gold. Yeah, there's no need to rush this at all
No, thank you. Especially with a lot of this dead gold that you're talking about. Now, Hart?
Okay, so he's blade now Hart
How much HP is he gonna have when he hits flesh going that's we'll have to pay attention to it depends also on how
the K-Stacks he has up going, so he can definitely reach like 4 or 5k HP in the next couple of fights,
and he's not the only one, because DM is already rocking a basic 4900 without even doing anything.
Is it time to get rid of Greedy or never?
Depends kind of what he has going here on the Centaur, I mean you can look...
I was looking at Undyne, but sure, anyone for all the same.
For the Centaur, if once a fight breaks out, I think you can just take the Pendulum with like
whatever you want, you can go Evasion.
Okay, so you just wait for the fight and then click.
Yeah, like once you don't, because at this point
you're starting to be full slotted.
You're waiting, if a fight breaks out you take that.
What does matter, what are Malady's options?
Same story, you can just go the pendulum if you want.
Or the idol of Skriak, I like this item.
Get yourself a bit of slow resistance, some Evasion.
Still two minutes for the next Roche potential.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm sure Yandex, their lead will grow even more.
Oh, it absolutely will.
So, from Spirit, what exactly are the power spikes?
I mean, Yotaro's obviously going to be the number one on the list
in terms of what can he buy.
Still not going for straight damage, it's going to be more stat related.
So he has the Lincoln's into Scotty now.
Scotty is good.
I don't think it's the biggest difference maker yet.
I'm honestly just looking at LAR.
I think you need, it's more about their spells as it is some of their items.
So like a good snap old with a potential chain frost and the roll.
The next big timing in my mind was for it is the 25-talent on Laurel here, which will take a bit, obviously going from, what, like, level 23, which he is about to be, to 25.
So I spot it, and commit, though, for Yatoro.
I mean, I'm trying to think of Yatoro's play here, because Refresher you brought up is obviously a classic faceless void item.
But if you don't have right-click damage, and you use it, like, a lot of your damage in the Chrono is your spells,
because ultimate, they're gonna be off cooldown already after that first turn on the zone.
That's true.
And also of course it doesn't refresh BKB anymore nowadays.
Yeah.
Now Sox is gonna find some little treat
in the form of a route.
I think Yannick's have a superb hold on this game, 27k lead.
And it seems very very difficult for Sv4 to find any type of move.
When they go, it's like Yannick, they get out with low HP, they walk back, they just bait you in.
like very very deeply into the fight. Also CJ went for a wind waker as opposed to finishing up the refresher.
So if there's not a nullifier on that initial target you will always have the wind waker available.
Yatoro is getting chased. Looks like he'll be fine though, Collapse gets out as well.
Oh the cover of Smokey and X looking for an opening. The initial stun but the shield crash came out
and he's a little bit too tanky for that kind of play.
They are slowing the Centaur to a great degree.
Atora comes in and is about to use the work force, trying to turn this around onto the
faceless boy and then pops the BKB.
There's the grab ally on self again, Collapsed, already using his ultimate.
The Chronosphere is there with the Mortarman right on top of the tool and applied to the
Clinkster Staila.
They get the hex!
They get the turn around to Atora, dead for a hundred seconds and Yandex in prime position
to end this series.
It's forced that barely getting out of that damage from the Sun strikes
And it's a double buyback for spirit, but they find themselves in an enormous hole and a bis
35k deficit for them. It's 80 seconds without your Toro
Like Ianix might just do one of the impossibles beating spirit this early off at an EWC playoff
Good sinister gaze of the tornadoes coming gonna not clip anything
They actually do kill off DM. You gotta buy that instantly knowing that the Pace-in-Soye likely cannot get back into this game.
5-0 onto 2. Sheepstick to follow. Gonna wrap around and Watson just focusing on the Barracks.
This is gonna be a second set in favor of the Andex and they can go for the Megas right now if they want.
Yeah, it's not a lot of damage left on Spirit.
They can just walk it up.
It's all 1700 gold away from Bivac, so not even remotely close. So 45 seconds they have to defend.
Also no ult's available.
Watson with the Elacrity.
Bushwhack as well, DM gets the opening stun into the tornado with the meteor to follow.
Collapse has to swashbuckle away and it's going to provide a lot of space for the clings to hit buildings or the Lich, in fact, they delete roof
and now the buildings shall melt.
And these buildings...
And this is going to be Megas for sure for Yandex.
And they're likely going to back away because the virus is telling them this is discipline play.
You have to back up 15 seconds on Faceless Boy.
Not with some shrine in three minutes. Time to wait for that if you're Malady.
Well, 37k lead, Megas, lots of... You can build whatever you want. And with how Yandex are playing, this is an incredibly hard comeback for Spuriel.
And Rush is up as well, so likely to take that next once they regroup with all these extra items coming out.
You can just see, like, they're making so many small problems. When your Toro goes in, they have double hex.
You can use or even the use you can use one to break the lincoln's then hex him up and they did kind of forcing something small
Out of it. There's a role and then if there's no nullifier on this wind waker
It's definitely a big problem and you saw it there. They couldn't even kill Watson. Yeah in the chrono
Likely one last stand remains for team spirit former EWC champions might be vanquished by Yanbex who had
Quite the incredible year and unexpected year. Yeah
Well, they've been...
Austin opens up on Roche.
They have been trying being...
Where's Collapse? Pay attention.
To Collapse, he's got to go big.
He might not be trying for it.
No, I mean, it's difficult, right, against Megas.
It's so obvious. Also, mines, you have to go through that.
Yeah.
So this will end up being a freebie.
Your prediction of two Aegis Steel is not going to happen.
Not at all. It's not going to be close to one.
Oh, there was one, but on the other team, for game one.
I mean, out of the sudden, I collapsed, so...
I have to take the ammo out.
Again, not that slide.
So they can hold on to the next round.
That's about a 10 minutes 20.
I need 20 minutes with two collapsed Aegis seals.
10.5.
I mean, if they want to stay in this
game-added series,
they'll have to pull out something like that.
Aegis, cheese, refresher, short.
Watson's holding a refresher short in his backpack right now.
I mean, surely Chira...
Okay, Chira has an actual refresher orb now.
Yeah, that's why he's not holding it.
I think he can keep it on the plane, so you can go double army and just throw a bunch of garbage out there in their way.
Double army? Does that equal the original army that they had like six months ago that was just melt buildings by itself?
I've probably, maybe even the one army before is stronger than a double army now, because that here was ridiculous.
Yeah.
And good luck reacting to the techies mines now and Soxa unlocks his 25 talent.
It's got a catalyst, another neutral item we talk about quite a lot.
What is the delay normally for the second of mines?
Is it a second?
It's like over one second.
Yeah.
It's quite rough, now it's like near instantaneous.
It's an overwhelming blink for DM, he was already a nuisance, now he can dodge, well
not rather dodge, but like cancel blink daggers, give vision, like you're going with overwhelming
blink and sheevahs.
They also have Pendulums, honestly quite good neutral items, right?
The overall against the Faces Void, they kind of play for this overall like blowing you
up from full to zero, and three of their cores are holding onto a Pendulum, or rather two
cores.
Kind of Malady, who's kind of a core when it comes to the HP.
It is Team Spirit against Magikreeds though, would you pick a different team to defend?
Absolutely not.
In all of history of Dota.
It has to be them.
Don't have like, they have okay defense right?
of course you have a battle fury you have void which is fine snapfire is okay
you have lit shield also which is quite good against defending later and if you
ever reach the 25,000 you get the HP regen yeah I mean also something else I
want to see from Rue like you have buyback you have chain frost on death
after using your chain frost I think you just blink in there and die to
skeletons and pop another chain frost and hope and because you need every type
of damage when you're down this far you need to scrape for every damage and
and every idea that you have.
Alright, how was it all going? We need his 25 talent.
He's still not there, wow.
He will have it soon.
That was, I feel like you had that conversation like 10 minutes ago.
He wants level 23, they're not giving any heroes, they're losing every fight.
They're just getting outplayed by Yandex.
They're not giving them anything.
Chira, looking for an opening.
What are they waiting for for Yandex? Is there an eye?
Okay, well, we're gonna smoke nonetheless.
And we're gonna try to finish this right here right now.
Wrapping around to the bot side of the map.
Pick a lane, any lane.
And make your presence known.
There's a couple of buybacks available.
Fourteen Spirit Collapse shows himself gets hexed.
Nullifier applies to the end.
It's not doing too much.
Gets up the shield, cracks me.
He's gonna get sunscreen.
The cookie actually saves him for a bit,
But he still ends up dropping in the end two minutes down and out.
Malady, okay, to get the Chronosphere on tip two, the horse cart is on techies.
Not the target he wanted as the invoker does fall.
Obviously Chira does have buyback and they have Sinister Hole, by the way.
That's a good one.
And they follow up with anything.
Batch connects.
There's a Sinister Hole onto three heroes.
Let's try to do some damage as Yatorov, he gets melted.
Absolute destruction on his part.
He's gonna buy back instantly along with Laurel
So the damage is overwhelming from Yandex.
Look at the clinch just going to town on these buildings.
Now an AoE deafening blast.
Likely that in this game here.
Another team wipe in favor of Yandex as Gigi's come out.
And Yandex, they vanquished the previous EWC champions in Team Spirit.
Yeah, they are my favorites from this point onwards.
They've been looking so good for a while.
Also, I don't know if people's fun.
So Collab's died with Alvivec.
Now that he blinked behind him, when Collab's rolled up,
He made it roll into his own team because he blinked beyond him to then punch him into the Yandex side, something I've not seen in a long time.
And yet Yandex, they are looking clean, confident, and insanely good.
A very rare class performance in this series.
Oh, one time in the Pango, the Titan, I don't remember the exact storyline, but it was a lot to be desired.
You have to give Yandex credit. They focused him down very early in that game, number one specifically.
They never really left the Pango League get out of hand here.
And I would agree with Yandex in terms of all the games that we've seen
As in terms of the ceiling for these pro games
This has been the team to beat right now in the Sermon. The overall execution they bleed so little whether they're ahead or behind
They know exactly what they want to do like even this early on when you look at some of the highlights
I think Watson is in so many moves and it's also like they're both ending the game 11-4 11
I think CJ I talked about a time and time again such an improved player very like individually
forming. That's a gamer face right now. He's ready to go. He's locked in. Yeah,
that's it. The same thing. We talked a little bit, you know, about Collapse, who
had a quiet series, I think. Yotaro too. It's like these are some of the players
you you're expecting them to come up big. And I think even in this game, you know,
a lot of time, but not really pulling through. And I think Yannick just clutch
from position one to five without a play the map, the timing such a waiting for.
They are absolutely scary. I would not want to face this team. No, absolutely not.
It's shown all year round that they are a very tough team to beat.
We're a little bit inconsistent, I would say, earlier in the season.
But not here today as we go for an interview on stage.
Thank you so much, guys.
Absolutely, ladies and gentlemen, may I present the slayers of the dragon,
the feeders of the title defenders.
Give it up for Malini, everybody.
How we doing?
Sir, the Caster said it best.
You are the scariest team in Dota right now, and let me ask you why.
You guys play the same heroes, you guys make the meta, yet still, they just give it to you and you win!
I don't get it! You guys play the exact same thing you always do, and one of the best teams of the world could not solve it. Why?
It's just the consistency, you know. We're just a stable guys, who does the normal things, and it works out every time.
Absolutely it does. In fact, we can talk a little bit about the undying. A lot of people are starting to pick up this undying.
Seems like they're kind of copying some homework here. But nobody quite does it like you.
In fact, that shard I know is a huge part of your gameplay style. Do you value this item a lot? Is this a must have for your gameplay?
I feel like it's very good. We were practicing it on scrims and I was buying the shard earlier on.
on so once we get the Tormentor so my other core can get the shot and I think
it's very good. Alright well you could definitely tell. Okay let's talk a little
bit about your upcoming opponents. The next series is gonna be ParaVision, they're a
scary team but then there's a Kazakh standing brothers over on Roon Eaters
tell me I don't really care what you think about ParaVision I've seen a
million times. What do you think about Roon Eaters man? I think they so far beat
the Aurora Gaming and I think they have a pretty decent chance to win the
party vision. I was texting with the Malik and he said if we beat the party
vision we're gonna beat you as well.
Damn! Alright, we'll see if they can do it. Do you think they have a chance? You think you'll be seeing them?
Yeah, I will give them maybe like 30% chance and 70 towards the party vision.
Well that's depressing. Okay, fantastic. Well I sure hope that our
underdogs have a better chance than that but let's welcome your team here gentlemen please to the stage
Here at EWC. We got some stuff to do and you also be extremely proud give it up for the boys
Taken out the last times champion gentlemen, you ready to crush some sick keys you ready to crush some souls
Let's go. It is time to go to the crush on baby. We're hoping things up for you here
All right now I need to know who's gonna be the crusher
I can thrash
Chira Junior crushing dreams. All right. Mr. Chira Junior, please to the station
Approach the Keymaster. Sotska Bendal really low with me. They want to see your
face get lower. Drama like it's hot big dog. Ah, here we go. Chira Junior! Crush team
Spirits Dreams!
Here boy, get in!
Yes, yes!
Give you a sp-
They are crushed my friend
and you will move on.
Congratulations Yandex.
We're gonna get this for your inspections like a fine wine.
I know you're a man of culture and class,
here at Junior. Please take a look
at their broken dreams that build up your-
Damn, you li-l-lickified that shit!
Take a look at it, do you approve?
Oh yeah, yeah I'm approved.
You know we approve baby, we're coming back!
Next year is coming up soon, back to the panel.
It must be extra nice to crush a key that is extra special
because Team Spirit was the defending champion.
A new champion will be crowned this time around
as we have Yandex making it through a two and O
and we thought Team Spirit had a better shot
This time round, to be fair, it looked a little better than Game 1,
but we did see Yandex not dropping the ball almost at all, Sam.
It was an impressive performance.
I think we said in Game 1, maybe they outpoured it a bit.
I think they definitely did.
I mean, you're able to beat Yatoro.
It's like Yatoro Void, you know, and you're able to take it to the late game.
He's getting six slaughtered and you're still, like, I don't know.
I'm very impressed, because honestly, before the series,
I thought they can do it, but I didn't think they would do it this way.
I thought they would maybe out-tempo spirit, they would maybe, you know, out-draft them
because I think they have a really good grasp of the meta.
You know, we heard Malady with Dundying and the Shard and no one else.
Like, they just, they are on top of the game right now.
But I don't think it really came down to that even.
I think they were sequences where it's just better all around, like in every
single aspect of the game.
So I'm a big fan of that team.
Yeah, for me, Dota is all about limits.
It's all about knowing how far you can press it.
how knowing when to back off and I feel like for Yandex their decision making in
in every facet of the game whether that's macro, farming, team fighting,
disengaging, re-engaging like every aspect I'm just like wow I would not have
known to do that like it's just impressive thinking I'm watching from
spectator I've got all the information I can see all ten heroes I'm not thinking
about pressing my buttons and they're so crisp so clean they're on the same page
the communication must be off the charts I mean Malady just said it like we're
just doing good things and I couldn't summarize it better myself just watching
it. They're just doing good things all the way around. There was a little bit more hope
for Team Spirit in this game because we did see their team fight coming into play. But
at the end of the day, I mean, even the numbers don't lie. It's just, it's just a little
rocky and it is so unusual to see collapse with that scoreline as well. He just got,
he just got shot down. Yeah, I think he had a, he didn't have the best showing this series.
But again, it's, I don't think it's so much related to collapse than it is to how good
the endings were playing.
I mean, at some point, you meet opponents like that, that's, you're trying to win the
game, you're gonna die eventually, you know, you're trying to win the fights.
Like there were many moments that were pretty good, but the endex is just too good at the
game.
I think everything of how they itemize, how the, as, as, as PSG mentioned, like how they
take fights, how they disengage, they just seem to have, they're so clear basically in
and how, what they need to do to win the game,
went to back off, went to, you know, push the tempo.
It's a beauty to watch.
And again, yeah, as you mentioned,
I think you put it well.
It's like when you're watching
and you don't find the solution,
you don't find the clutch,
and they find it with like half the info you have,
one tenth of the info you have,
you just have to sit down and enjoy, you know,
enjoy seeing some of the best players in the world perform.
And it's just that simple.
There was definitely one team
that was the better team today.
We call it the Grand Order Finals.
I think maybe the level of play, Ryan,
was a little different than what we thought.
We thought this was gonna be more even.
I guess for me, I did think it was gonna be more even.
I think it was maybe even a bit hopeful
because of the fact that some of the teams
that looked very convincing in the group stage,
even 1W and Aurora, having just dropped out
against weaker teams than Team Spirit,
I guess I would say, at least on paper,
you never know what you're gonna get
in these single eliminations.
The Yandex could have, in an alternate universe, easily just shown up and maybe been off their
A-game for one series, but instead, if they're performing like this, on this stage, under
this pressure, talking about the mentality side of the game, yeah, I guess just this
confirms everything we already thought about Yandex, that if there were any doubts left,
they're definitely extinguished.
Yeah, and the fact that they've only dropped one game so far, I mean, and put Soji back
on the map there as well, makes you wonder what Soji did well, that was able to, that
I was able to take a game with Jannex because it seems very...
That makes us the second best team in the tournament.
That's how that works, yes.
No, it's all good.
We talk about Jannex and they're doing a lot of things right.
And, you know, we say that outplay team spirit,
but it's hard to quantify exactly what Jannex does better than others.
So I believe, Brian, you're actually going to show us a couple of sequences
where it is like it's the little things that Jannex just does better than everybody else.
Yeah, I was mentioning like, I wouldn't know to do this.
if I was watching the game.
So in the game, it's pretty wild.
So I want to talk about kind of the story
that's set up in my head,
especially if I'm on the team spirit side.
You see a position five on dying effectively,
using an ulti and a tombstone to defend his tower.
Like he's going to walk in on Maladich.
He's going to pop the tombstone.
And there's a lot of things that Maladich does
where I'm kind of just like, what is he thinking here?
He's walking into effectively four heroes.
He may not know they're there, but he just dies.
And there's no meaningful cooldown used by team spirit.
That's really important to know.
And they're gonna ping the Tombstone.
They're gonna commit to it.
And the second they commit, look at this techies DP.
Like there are so many times this tournament
that we've seen teams lose a hero for free
and then just chain feed off of that.
How do they know the difference between doing that
and what they're about to do?
They have a hero given away for free.
Yes, he's respawned because of his passive on dying,
but then they set up this excellent burst on collapse
who's just clearing a creep wave thinking nonetheless.
And then they take out Rue on the hoodwink,
Sorry, not me on the hoodwink, and they end up winning that 2 for 0.
Then the next fight, this is the engage and to disengage that I was referencing.
They're gonna go on collapse, burst him again, then they're gonna use the Centaur Stampede to disengage,
and we're gonna see Chirr Jr. walk back, get gone on by Void, and this is the moment where you have to like think,
if I break this down, it's hard to understand.
So, Chirr Jr. is back here getting gone on by collapse.
You see the rest of Team Spirit on the side over here, and they need to connect to their Void who wants to chrono,
And then you're going to see Watson, instead of retreating the same direction as Shira Jr.
He's going to cut off the connecting path of the rest of Team Spirit.
But they're like, Etoro's like, come on, I've got Invoker, I've got Invoker instead of Watson.
Ambushes, gets the Chrono on him, Sox is perfectly positioned to use the Taser instantly,
nullifying the Chrono. It just feels like every single player is in the heads of Team Spirit,
knowing what they're going to do before they do it.
And I don't even know how you beat that. I was blown away by these micro plays.
I think it's very nice to see it like that, broken down, these are players in the zone.
These are players that are not affected by emotions.
You're invoker probably communicating, I'm getting jump, I'm chronoed, and it could just phase.
You could just phase, you could just get blurred in your head,
oh, my invoker is getting chronoed, I want to help my invoker, so you're going to back up.
But when you're in the zone, you're actually dismissing that information,
you're like, he's getting chronoed, what does that mean?
You know, they need to follow up with spells, I'm going to shut them down, therefore,
It's like just hyper-focused, playing the games, looking at what's in front of you,
just fighting basically, you know, being completely connected with the game.
I think, and that's what it comes down to, because honestly, like, a lot of teams would have lost that fight.
Like, Centaur's dying on their tier 2 and Voker's Crono disaster.
But, just clutch, you know, like, pushing the game to its limits really impacting as much as you can.
It's impressive, impressive sequences.
Super impressive, and it makes it difficult to choose an MVP of the series.
We did so anyway, and I think it goes to your favourite man of the match,
it goes to Sherrod Jr. this one.
My boy, I mean, this guy is...
I'm the biggest fan, because to me, Dora is about how well you keep your buttons,
of course, it's part of it, you know, you love your miracles and whatnot,
and he's on par with them, but it's also about how smart you are.
Like, this game is just so complex.
Everything you have to do, like, item choices, positioning in teamfights,
Especially from the mid lane nowadays, I feel like mid laners dictate so much of how the game is being played,
where to go, how to use their time, whether it's farming, attacking, which lane to attack,
which camps to farm, which rune to check, this guy does everything perfect.
It's a beauty to watch. On top of it, he's just amazing at every hero he plays and he plays a whole bunch of heroes.
My personal favorite of the whole season, honestly, to me, he's on par with the greatest mid laners.
I'm not even saying right now, I'm saying like all the time.
I watch him play and I'm like, yeah, this is just how to play mid lane, essentially, in Dora.
And he's only 21, so he's been a great career ahead of him, too.
That's unfair.
I'm actually upset.
What do you mean he's only 21? How is he even possible?
You know?
That's what happens.
He's going to be doing this for 10 years or something, 15 years?
Just change games if you're looking to, you know, breakthrough in Dota, maybe just try something else.
Like, this guy has it covered for the next 10 years, you know, the places that the spot is taken.
I'm more impressed, like, where do you get this mindset at age 21?
I believe in click-bloods. I believe you can understand your limits and perform.
But even DM talked about why this team is so successful and said that we just speak to each other professionally,
the way we resolve, you know, disputes of views of the game and how they align on mutual understanding,
moving forward like that's what pulls my mind especially from the mid lane it's
usually a very ego driven role on better than the other guy and can you know
what is crazy about it is that it's not even like he was mentored by a more
experienced like coach captain he's done this by himself because he broke
through pretty much the season yep this is just him playing pubs watching replays
you know playing tier 2 tier 3 tournaments and and coming up with that
knowledge and that deep understanding and on what it takes to win Dota games at
the highest level props to this guy well deserved win today hopefully they go
further I think he really deserves to live some the biggest trophies out there
well we're gonna find out if he can lift this trophy here of course there's a
couple more steps in between that and now because this was only the quarter
finals we'll find that their opponents actually today though for the
semi-finals because our next matchup is waiting with rune eaters and p vision and
we heard Maladio stage and I'd love to get your take on that as you already did
a little bit, but 30% chance for Rune-needers to be P-Vision substantial.
I'd take 30% against P-Vision any day. I'd take 10 at this point. I'd take 5.
So 30 is very generous. You might think he was like skeptical or something.
I think it's very generous, like 30% versus P-Vision.
This team is considered to be maybe top three this tournament.
Like they could, I mean, they could have, they could win the tournament.
Nobody would be surprised. It wouldn't be an upset or anything.
So, yeah, really looking forward. I think no one named Yandex as, you know, so yeah, there's like
these two teams are looking at each other and maybe it's wishful thinking.
Maybe Melody's like, get rid of them for us, please, so that we don't have to do it ourselves.
I don't know. I don't know. I feel like Melody's the type of guy that's not afraid to just say like,
they're gonna get dumpstered. It's not even close. 99 to one. So the fact that he's saying seven to
30, I don't think he's doing that out of pity or anything like that. I think Runeaters has earned
in the respect that if P-Vision doesn't play their absolute best, that Runeaters is possible
to overtake them with their skill ceiling.
I've been blown away by Runeaters, like they had five game sequence in the last few days
where they lost game one atrociously, and then they proceeded to win four games in a row
and they just don't look like the same team.
And to see somebody leveling up like that, P-Vision doesn't need to level up, but today
they're going to have to remain where they're at to even like, that's where that 30% is coming
from, I believe.
Yeah, we're going to find out how Runeaters will do against the even tougher challenge
again today as they have been on a tear. P-Vision versus Ruminators very soon. Before we get there
though, we are going to hear some confessions from Kezu.
For you, gamers, hybrid workers, offices,
I'll give you every move.
I
I'm replacing all the shop. Yeah, so like we're first of all very very good friends shout out to him and secondary this was
The best and funniest team I ever played for lots of big names. There was yaps or who's an absolute clown
He's retired at this point. Actually most of the people on the scene are retired era is retired
I don't know what the hell he's doing. Coikler is a streamer
Then there's cinder and
Well, he's casting then there's me. I'm casting but at this team was phenomenal the first guy we ever played
We got there went through the wall cards, but then we placed last at I kind of disbanded but
So one of the funniest teams I've played for in my life. So they've all retired. Is that partially your fall or is it somebody else's?
So I think I survived the longest with Yavzor, so I won't take syndrome will take the blame. Okay. He's the old guy
He's like 45, you know, he'll die soon of old age
Yeah, yeah
What is your favorite memory from from participating in a computer game tone on a tournament on a basketball court?
Well, the best part about this one is that I actually won that one.
The problem is, this is Hauntor, so this game, it was dead, now it's back.
It sounds like a real, like, pure LAN.
The problem is that this ended up on Reddit fails, or like, livestream fails, because
the LAN was so bad.
Imagine us sitting here, but you can't see us.
It's like, it's darkest fuck.
It didn't hire a real announcer to call out the teams like, Lions Esports Club, you know,
with a real voice, it's just a dude that worked for the company.
They were like, you're the guy, you're going to come.
That's what I feel like at this event.
Well, I mean, we didn't really know.
It was one of our first events.
We were like, this is cool.
You know, we're like in a top level suite of some like hotel.
But it's just a basketball court.
It's dark.
Nothing works.
It was a shit show.
What year was this?
This is like 2012.
Yeah, that's a long time ago.
That was about when I started in eSports.
And that sounds about right.
Yeah, and this was in, yeah.
So shout out to Hauntour Las Vegas.
That was the time for that, dude.
Sounds like a good old days to me.
What do you think you,
what do you think you made such a different,
trying to get, I spent my words out here.
Let's try again.
What do you think made such an,
made you such an effective coach for OG?
Dude, fuck these questions.
Whoever, fuck you.
Okay.
So first of all, we sucked real bad.
We were bad.
So yeah, there was a lot of shit going on in that team.
The good thing is, well, sadly, this isn't recorded,
but we did qualify to one event.
And most of the people said that if it wasn't for me,
we wouldn't have done that.
The problem is that we still sucked all year round,
so I can't take any good credit.
It sucked.
It sucked.
Yeah, I mean, it happens.
It happens.
Why did you miss an entire year of school?
So, I mean, this is a long story.
I'll try to short it down a little bit.
So let's see.
First of all, I hated school.
I skipped school quite a lot, hated it.
I would call myself in sick,
pretending to be my dad or my brother.
So I do that.
Then my mom will drop me off at school.
I'd make sure to wear a hoodie,
put up my hoodie, go into school,
go straight out the next door,
walk back home and play home.
So yeah, I guess the reason I miss school most of the time
is that I hated it
and I just wanted to play computer games.
I mean, it worked out, I suppose.
I would say so, yeah.
Same for me, it really was, yeah.
Skyving, they call it.
I just, I hated it.
Or even when I had to like go hold a presentation,
like, no one, I can't do it.
Who was your Dota idol?
So, I actually, I got a few.
I have always really loved Zai.
This guy was really good.
He should have won a TI before retiring.
He always got like top two, top three.
This guy was insane.
I think also, universe.
These are a lot of like older names. Yeah, and also ice ice ice like all of these players are incredibly good
They're probably better off having quit the game as most of us are cuz playing Dota 2 is it's a shit show
It's stressful. Everyone just hates on you permanently
Doesn't he like it only matters what you do today if you're good today, man good job
But if you suck tomorrow kill yourself, that's what you're gonna read everyone. It's like what's wrong with you guys like stop this shit
But anyway, they're my idols
Okay
Last but not least I've been told to ask you to give your best impression of something my best impression and breast and best impression
Apparently you do a really good
specific character
This is about Donald Duck or something is about Donald Duck. I mean I use I don't know why but when I was in school
I was understood like that voices so it's only the sound I cannot speak or something
But I feel like you gotta give us it
That is actually quite good
that's it. I can't like speak
or something. It's just a sound
just a sound board played up
recorded for what you want. There
you go. I was casus confessions.
Thank you very much, man. Thanks.
Yeah, I hope that was good.
Down here. The STC arena once
again with Ginny, the League
Legends continuing through, but
we're getting to the degree teams
again knocked out. Who's advanced
through so far though, Ginny cook
championship points very much on
have been qualified. We get AGL, HLE, BLG as well as GenG who are the defending titles here as well
and HLE also a heavy hitter considering that they've just won MSI. There's only four slots left
and we've got some pretty notable teams competing out there for those club championship points.
Yeah, one of those teams because behind me on the stage right now elimination match,
this SKT a watching figure, who could be going out right now?
Yeah, T1 could be going out today, I don't think that's gonna happen but there is a possibility,
Okay, anything's possible alongside them when it comes to the teams that are trying to get that last remaining spots
Okay
Yeah, KC is going up against Sentinels over on the B-Stream, which is also a huge match
People are excited about that as well
G2 also fighting for their lives to get to qualify it would be the next game onto the stage
If they qualify, they'll get some of those heavy hitting points as well.
So it's really these four organizations that I'm keeping my eyes out on and when it comes
to who is going further for the CCs.
Excellent.
Those CC points are very much up for grabs.
We'll be keeping you updated with everything here on the STC Arena throughout the next
few days.
Yeah, thank you very much Chris and Ginny for the club championship update from STC Arena.
I'm sure we're going to hear much more coming out of both of them as we are here continuing
with the Dota 2 for EWC and we are continuing with a second quarter finals of the day and
Before this one, we've changed up the panel a little bit.
We've got Lacoste and Effie.
Effie, how are you doing this afternoon?
I'm good, I'm just excited to finally be in playoffs
and I'm excited to see which storylines continue
because during the survival round,
we had some pretty interesting things occur,
some unexpected results of room eaters making it this far.
Can they keep going?
Yeah, everybody loves a good underdog story, Lacoste.
Can they continue?
We heard Malady give it 30% on the stage.
This team is powering up as well.
As tournament goes on,
I feel like, you know, they are getting the momentum.
They are getting quite a lot of confidence,
especially after eliminating Virtus.Pro,
eliminating one of the top contenders as well,
potentially to win the whole thing,
removing them from the pool as well.
So, gotta be very interesting.
B vision, not gonna be an easy task by any means,
but, you know, anything can happen.
This is like Dota, this is survival,
you know, just, just,
the O3 that you play, no lower bracket, so.
You gotta put it all on the line.
Let's focus on this matchup,
because a best of three is scary
and P-Vision is coming in still as the care favorites.
There's no way about it.
Yeah, I think even Runeaters are going into this,
knowing that P-Vision are a tough nut to crack.
I think we talked to Malik the other day
and he mentioned that, yeah, it's gonna be hard.
It's gonna be a challenge.
And P-Vision are just kind of raid boss right now.
It feels like their drafting is good,
their play is good.
They have this nice flow with their new coach and puppy
where it just seems like he's giving them
the direction that they need
they're responding with the play that he needs and it's kind of a beautiful harmony building there.
I also think that notice is kind of the shining star of this team as well after also recently joining
to the squad like you maybe needed something fresh, something extra as well. He's pretty much
stopping all of these KDA charts like to do that one point like after the group stage he was sitting
at the only like 0.6 depth on average per game which is insane to think about like in Dota it
almost never happened.
Yeah, he had a very stable group stage and to be honest all of P-Vision had a very stable
group stage and you know they were in group C which was not the group of death and not
even the second group of death if you will and it makes us wonder where P-Vision's power
level really is because we are expecting them to do well.
We'll see how they do here on stage today and we'll also listen to notice as he talks
about how he feels about the playoffs.
In this team I feel really good because there are a lot of good players in this team and I know these guys and I'm really happy to join in the end of this season.
This is not my first tournament and first season in the first sense. We want to play better every day and for win this tournament we need to play better because we know our mistakes and we need to fix it.
We play games, we play official games, we play pubs, and we watch games, and sometimes, yeah, we have something new, because everything can change.
You try hard for this, you win this, and it's a really big tournament like TI now, you know, really just like it.
We can beat every team, every team can beat us, you know, and everything decides in your gameplay, individual gameplay decisions, you know, hard moments, you know, prepare to every team, like, our last chance.
We can beat every team and every team can beat us, and that does mean that you respect every opponent you go up against. With that mentality across, I feel like they will be prepared for Runead.
for Rumi. Oh absolutely this is a team that didn't play for four days so they did manage to get
her quite a lot of information the meta they slightly shift we are not seeing like the same
picks we are seeing like new stuff coming out which is going to be also very interesting because
they are also a type of a team that sets the meta they are the ones who are exploring some of these
picks as well this is how they've been playing ever since they have been formed under a different
coach and now even with Papi you know the ideas that they are going to be bringing to the table
are going to be great. It just brings to mind when we heard from
P-Vision earlier in this tournament, was it no one that mentioned that Puppey kind of
just put 9-class on a leash? Yes, he's a cage. Yes, he's making him play regular heroes
and regular Dota and they think that his influence has made them go from chaotic to stable. And
stable P-Vision have actually looked scarier than chaotic. We're going to play Nix and
run mid at level 2 P-Vision. Yeah, and that means P-Vision has been kind
over the last six months been getting a bit of a new identity,
but now instead of, ooh, what scary thing is 9-Class gonna do?
It's like cool, calm and collective division
that will just be good all across the board.
Yeah, pretty much. It's not like too crazy of ideas.
It's more about stability.
If you look at this hero pool that he has been playing,
you know, it's gonna be more like Dark Willows,
Keeper of the Lights, IOs, not too many crazy things out there,
but also they managed to stabilize.
I think P-Vision, like this is something they talked about with the previous squad as well,
the core of the team still feels the same, but also about that one mistake that they made
between 15 and 20 minutes, quite a lot of time. This time around we're really not feeling it.
They are not feeling it. We're going to find out how P-Vision is going to do
against their opponents. Rooney, kids, has been a squad that has surprised everyone.
They surprised people by being here to begin with, making it out of the groups.
whoops that's a surprise every single stage they were able to move forward they started in survival
round one they made it through aurora the mini boss in survival round two so they've already
achieved so so much can they take down the giants in p-vision let's find out how copy feels before
the game hello i'm here with copy of runeaters yesterday you guys did something very special
guys knocked out Aurora 2-0 how did that feel? I mean obviously it was great but
I'd said you know we're not coming in here with the expectation of losing so
fast it wasn't that special. Come on, I had to feel amazing like what the two it
was a 2-0 it wasn't even like a 2-1 in your life. Of course it was great but you
know you you cannot lose your emotions just yet you know just the more it
gets to be fair. That's true you have not won. I've been hearing from other
talent who've been watching your games all through the group stage they when
watching your games they feel like you guys get better every single game. Is that what it's been
feeling like for you guys? Yeah I think so. Maybe not every single game but I feel like we do
learn a lot from every game. I think our macro has been improving a lot. Like right now it feels
like our strength even against Aurora yesterday. Like we were kind of losing the lanes every game
but we came back. So it feels like we have a good understanding of the mid game right now.
That's really cool. I feel like I would describe you and your teammates as some of the players that
that got left behind from some of the roster swaps.
But you guys improving so much and playing well at the tournament,
it must feel extra special.
It's like you're showing people that you're better than they maybe thought you were.
Is that right like that?
Yeah, I mean, it's always what you want to show when you play Dota right.
You always want to show you're better.
Right now, maybe there's some more incentive for us to show it,
because like you said, none of us are like picked up by like a big org, I guess.
But, you know, playing like this is also fun.
It's very fun kind of being the underdog.
Yeah, there's less pressure, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Oh, that's awesome.
Well, thank you for joining me for the interview
and good luck in your upcoming match.
Thank you.
A lot already achieved for a roster that has only existed for like two months.
With yesterday beating Aurora, apparently, you know,
leagues are focused.
No need to get into your emotions yet.
Go on to the next one.
I appreciate that FES thing.
Poppy is the right mentality for that one.
I do because you don't want to get caught off guard with like,
Oh, we beat someone that people expected to be the favorite.
Are we actually really good? No, you just stay focused, you keep your head in the game
and you look towards your next opponent.
I'm talking to Malek yesterday as well, and you think that,
wow, are they really not more enthusiastic or excited?
Because he was very chill about it, but they are on a really good trajectory right now
and just keeping their emotions balanced is what could continue that trajectory.
Because they might be able to catch Pivis and Off-Guy.
I don't think Aurora expected to get caught off-guard yesterday, but they did.
Yeah, something that we talked about and also teams talked about is whether like how much
Preparation comes into when you're playing against like maybe lesser known teams that comes in
Maybe slightly different in the group stages, but also like once you are in the playoffs day after yesterday
I'm pretty sure that be vision
They wanted to dissect every little thing that they have been doing because this is not a team that you know a lot about
Like this is a relatively new team. They dropped out of TI qualifiers
I believe in around one of the lower bracket
So not a lot of people were like looking into them and be like yeah
This is the team that can cause some upsets
But after seeing what they could do you definitely need to look into them and like deep in the dive in deeply to understand
What they're actually doing. Yeah, so we're gonna dive into this a little bit as well because I feel we see watching that in depth yesterday
How would you describe the play style of Runegros?
So it doesn't necessarily feel like they have a stable play style yet
They've played a lot of different drops, but they play through a copy pretty heavily.
I would say he's their key player in that mid game, and there were situations where they first picked Ember Spirit,
and they got counterpicked by Viper, and he had a horrible lane,
but they still managed to make a couple of key smokes, find their way back into the game, and play through that mid lane.
I also think Dark Lord is a very important piece of this team.
He's had a very interesting playstyle evolve through this tournament.
Initially, he was playing the classic ranged carries, you know, just farm off, play from a distance,
But during the survival stage, he just played like Alchemist and Tiny, and he was going for the stuns.
He was playing like a mini Dorachio type, you know, I'm gonna stun for you, you guys carry me.
Yeah, I think it also comes down to them realizing that the hero that you mentioned, they haven't really been winning with them,
so they needed to adjust, and this adjustment was definitely correct in this one,
making sure that they are getting maybe slightly better matchups, even though Kofi talked about them losing the laning stages and what so not.
But I feel like this team also has a good amount of experience.
Like, these are not unexperienced players by any means,
because Eki, he stood in for Team Liquid during the last Alakya.
He got third-fourth place.
Actually, you had Malik, who was standing in for Team Spirit as well.
He was standing in for other teams getting pretty high placement.
So, they have caught a lot of experience and with the newcomers as well,
these have been always throughout Dota history the most successful teams.
You know, maybe some extra bit of experience with the new blood, new ideas,
like the guys that can click quite a lot that can click really well and for them it definitely clicked.
Yeah, it's also pretty cool to see Puppy vs. Mang in the coaching matchup because those are also two veteran faces, I think.
They are. I mean, I do feel that Puppy has just looked like the better dropter than any other coach for me at this tournament watching him.
I feel that he has this targeted player kind of vision where he goes up against a certain
team, will identify that he thinks one player can only play a handful of heroes, bans them
out, and he takes that approach instead of just banning the same consistent meta picks
versus every team.
And it's something that he does pretty well, and I would imagine he might do the same thing
versus Renewers.
Who will he target?
I think Kofi potentially.
I do.
I do feel that his Ember Spirit is really important, and we might see a first phase Ember
ban even.
Okay, wouldn't be surprised for it for P vision. We haven't seen them in a little bit here Lacoste
How we feel they're gonna do here. You think they didn't dopper beat?
No, I feel like this should be smooth sailing like I would give them 20% on side of ruinators
But P vision they they should have this one in the bag
Okay, well it's a quarterfinals
Elimination on the line with this best of three winner will go up against Jannex in the semi-finals
Let's see which one of these two teams comes out on top as we head over to the stage
Thank you very much, my friends, and I cost only 20%.
Come on, what's going on?
You gotta hand it to him.
But we're back here, and we have our second series
on our hands before we introduce our team Slacks.
Not first game, honestly.
Spirit are out, our EWC25 champions
are not making it in the final again.
I really believed, I really believed,
and I would say that my heart is broken,
but at the same time, the key is broken.
Well, the key, oh, there, there we go.
That's why you're here, baby.
But yes, Team Spirit being knocked out in such a way
was really really impressive by Yandex. I have to say that team was no slouch. It ain't old
spirit. So seeing them come in here, it was a hell of a ball. I cannot believe they too
well. I cannot believe it. I thought at least one. I don't think we can believe at least
one end of our next match because there's something about it. You know what? I'm gonna
leave it to you to kick this one. Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you are ready
for our next match. They said Team Spirit might win this one. They said Yandex might
win this one, but there's one other team that everybody is sure is going to be
taking this one away. What are the top dogs? They seem unstoppable. Ladies and
gentlemen, let's welcome to the stage, PeVision!
PeVision, my friends, absolutely. You can't take your eyes off this team no
matter what's going on. They are through a beautiful golden glaze here on P-Vis. We have the key.
We have the players. We have no signs of stopping. These guys look very, very ready. Look at that.
He's laughing. This guy's about going in the series and he's laughing. They will not get eliminated,
I think, but someone definitely will be. I'm not good at math, but I think that's,
They're chasing a pretty good day.
Fair enough.
But still.
What?
20-20 vision is one thing.
But they gotta face a team of misfits on the other side.
Let's bring them out.
It's Root Eaters!
Nom nom noming their way all the way here.
They kicked out Aurora Gaming to hate it here.
Honestly, this team of misfits, they couldn't even believe that they would close it out
and make it to the eSports World Cup.
They knocked out Navi to make that happen.
They're here that went through groups.
They went through survival.
And they're here on the main stage in quarterfinals.
Mitzvitz no more.
They've proven their name.
And here they play against one of the biggest.
Sure.
But this is how legends are born in the heart,
the fire, the volcano.
That is EWC here in Paris.
I think they can make this happen.
I gotta admit, I love a dark story.
Look at the underdog story.
I love a dark horse team.
These guys used to be pimp squeaks.
Now they're grown ass men.
Look at them.
They hate Aurora like it was breakfast.
So we're going to see if these dark horses can make their way through the P.
My friends, alright. Are you guys ready to play?
Good? You ready? Put those keys in.
We have a heck of a match for you here today.
Crowd, give it up for me. Are you ready?
Alright, let's see. There's a handshake.
We're in a rock and roll, ladies and gentlemen.
Thanks for joining us. Let's head back to the panel to see what they think about this matchup.
Thank you very much, gentlemen. We're so ready for this one. On one side, we got P-Vision.
Fairly any resistance in the group stages. Nine and one, only dropping one game to the
now eliminated team spirit on that final day of groups. But other than that, smooth sailing.
Whereas on the other side, Brooneeaters, they worked hard to get to this point. Coming five
and five, coming five and five in the group stages, learned a lot from those losses. And
And then yesterday, of course, with the 2-0 victory over Aurora, making it to the playoffs.
In the top eight, can they continue their run?
It's time to talk about the 2-0-2 that's coming our way, because we do need to talk about
some of these heroes that might be targeted here.
If we are going to see Poppy focusing on all Poppy's heroes, where is the strength for
Rune Eater's going to come from, if it wouldn't be Poppy?
If Poppy gets targeted in the drafts, I really think that Dark Lord is a very unique player,
And if they can just pick some playmaking supports in terms of having a lot of damage
burst like Lich for example with the chainfrost and a stun here for copy, they can definitely
play through him.
He made some really cool moves in that survival stage and Ake on that Lich went crazy.
Honestly, I've never seen a Lich that high impact the 4 in my life.
You know when people pick Lich, I'm like, eh, well, there's nobody left, you know, they
want to play for the lane, but he was like making solo plays.
Yeah, this wasn't your traditional Lich.
This wasn't your lich with maybe Glamour, Cape, 4 staff.
This was Blink, Shard, Aghanim, Sector, Lich that kind of dominated the game.
He was all over the place.
This is what I think the hero is made to do, in terms of solo killing, especially at the
later stages of the game.
If it goes to the later stages of the game when you only have one BKB, it does feel like
you can't wait it out and then you can solo kill people and his positioning was really,
really good in that game.
Yeah.
The lich was really cool and it is something to talk about.
But I also do think Ekky had a standout performance as well in those survival stages.
There was a game when he was Jurevik by stealing Fiend Grips, he was able to turn a lot of
them into gamefights, so supports have a lot on their shoulders here, especially going
up against P-Vision supports.
Yeah, focusing on them a little bit as well.
Where's their strength going to come from in this best of three, the cost?
And this is the team that also has a very interesting hero pool from multiple roles.
I would like to focus on Satanic because his Kez, we talk about Team Liquid, but I still
feel that Satanic is the best Kez player in the world.
He just plays this hero completely different.
You can tell it's on another level.
And also some of the heroes that he brought to the table as well.
He is going to be playing Sven as a counter to draw ranger.
They have these smaller combos with the Darkseer potentially, with the Sven that they've been
running before as well.
So a theme that is going to be using some of the old school strategies thanks to Puppy
because Dota in the end it is, it does work in cycles which also means that some of the
old ideas are coming back.
Oh, that means that I also think that Roon Eaters is going to be well prepared, Mag is
not going to be surprised by any old school shenanigans coming in, he'll be very well
versed on that as well, as we do have the draft on our screen, got Roon Eaters on Radiance
side, P-Vision on Dire side.
Yeah, and I do want to just call back to Copy's pregame interview where he mentioned he thinks they were losing the lanes and they came back in the mid game.
That is something that I worry about for them versus Pivitian because they didn't look like the cleanest team in the first 10 minutes, but then they made Magic happen between like minute 15 and minute 25.
And teams like Pivitian, if you don't draft good lanes, you're not even going to get the chance to make those moves to come back in the mid game.
We've seen some of the teams really struggle in the tournament, especially once we got the survival stage as well,
because we saw extreme gaming, for example, a team that has been known to play a bit of a slower Dota,
which has been punished multiple times for it.
And against P-Vision, I don't think you can make the same mistakes.
This is the team that is going to overrun you, so you need to have strong lanes.
You can't allow an enemy team to just get away with it.
Like, we haven't really seen those many comebacks as well.
We've seen some, but once you were off to a good start,
we are at this stage of the tournament where these high-caliber world-class teams
are going to be able to close out the games in 30-35 minutes.
Well, let's see what's left in the pool.
We have got some standard bands coming our way with the Drow and the Lone Druid,
but the Shadow Fiend was left in, and therefore, P-Visual will take that as their opening.
At the same time, this is not going to be a surprise to Runeater,
so I can only imagine that they have got a plan against this.
Traditionally, or rather at least this EWC, the counter-stores have mostly been dark seer,
but that's been already banned out in the first phase by Heavision themselves.
So we'll see what Rune-needers cooped up for that one.
Yeah, Rune-needers have been opening with like copies Ember or copies Puck,
and I do think this Puck was still left.
So do they want to directly counter us off for the laner?
Do they just feel comfortable sticking to that strategy of we'll build around our mid laner?
With that Ember band that was already first phase as you called, I don't know,
Puxman Raid has been so bad. Can Copy be the odd one out?
I think so, but Egg's Lich is the one that takes priority.
I mean, I just say, if you haven't seen those survival games, you should watch Egg play this hero
because it was so fun. He was like hiding near Wisdom Runes solo killing going in the last second
and he was a big game changer for his team.
They have a very interesting support to Echie. He has a slightly more experience when it comes out to competitive play.
He did really shine with Team Liquid. I think he also gathered quite a lot of experience being the stand-in for Team Liquid.
These were big shoes to fill because he needed to adapt the playstyle.
And he really did. You could definitely feel some similarities between him and Boxie during that Valakia where he was playing the same heroes as well.
So a very interesting hero coming out like very interesting player coming up to position 4 that can make a lot of happen
And you know, I always check some of the fun stats as well shiver
This is the guy that also loves to ping a lot
Oh, yeah, he's gonna be in top 5 that this tournament way was hard to beat the nightfall
I assume because they also got eliminated so he was looking good even more than usual
But yeah, which it gives them kill threat. It's also very good damage reduction against shadow fiend
So, so far very good approach from Rune-eaters.
Yeah, I remember one of the reasons why Echie was chosen to replace Boxie was because he was so vocal
because normally Boxie is very vocal for his team and leading his team in-game
and they needed a replacement that would do the same.
So, no surprise to hear his things are that high here as well.
As we are waiting for our band coming out of Rune-eaters,
we already have the Tiny and the Keeper of the Light band coming out from P-Vision.
It will be Rune-eaters picking out of this band phase.
We'll see if there's any hero they want to address that would pair up nicely with the Shadowfiend
in thinking mostly and in melee supports they might not want to face like a clockwork or something.
So far the Coloss didn't play any of the melee supports I believe maybe yeah he did play Omni
and Ogre there was that one really cool game that he played it was like Bloodlust level 2
which gives you 35 attack speed and it also gives you 6% move speed which is kind of nice.
This is what Shadowfinn also wants to have because of his overwhelming damage.
So we're going to see what kind of a pairing they're going to go with because this is quite a
lot of magic damage so far for Moon Eaters. This is not far for Moon Eaters while it is a flex hero
and it can go mid and it can be the secondary support. It's looked best in the hands of Malik.
He just provides this long-range teamfight in that midgame that makes it so that Koppi can just stun a hero.
They've got Malek from a distance killing the SF, not tweeting hits with it, and maybe that's the way that they play through it.
For this reason, I'd like if they paired it with a melee support, but Ekki's been playing a lot of Bat Riders and a lot of Rubik's,
and I don't really think he's touched those melee heroes, Lacoste.
No, no, not really.
Household would love to see it.
We've seen Centaur being one of the best offlaners of the tournament because of the heart,
but also because of the fact that we are seeing some of these teams also opting to go for the pipe
as their first item after helm to mitigate all the damage.
I feel like they stuck around.
You might be looking into an offlaner that is willing to build into pipe
because of the overwhelming magic damage on the teamfight that they have.
I mean, I think Centaur is a very solid hero and there's not a lot of disables either.
Like if you're fighting Snap and Lich and you just stampede and run away, that could be really effective.
Yeah, they're still ticking into their bonus time and it will still be the clockwork coming out for them.
So that is the laning partner right there is over to RuneNeeders once more.
Very simple, very easy to execute type of a lane. Also, vision going to be very good,
finding Lynch in the back lines, fighting where Snapfire is using Hookshot to stop the kisses
from going off, so very solid draft, very solid opening so far from B vision.
And lots of magic damage coming up from their willow too, because you see the
switch that was countered, countering the SF so to speak, you bring out willow with her
bedlam, it doesn't really care about physical damage reductions.
Are we expecting this mapfire to go anywhere particular, or are we just keeping this up open?
So I do think Milik has looked very good at it from the offline, but if they're another
better offline pick presents itself. I wouldn't mind if they've coveted, but he genuinely has looked
like the best offline Sapphire in this tournament. And of course now that we know the safe lane
that's coming out of P-Vision, we are expecting them to at least in these next two picks reveal
a little bit more. The overall aspect will go the way of Runeaters if they want to keep it
ambiguous all the way through. They do have to make the decision soon. I wonder if this puck is
in conversation because if you're not taking it in this phase for a copy for
monitors there's the 18 puck where you have no stuns. When you have no stuns
this is when you get stormed, you get pucked, you get umbered. Are they
willing to let that happen to them? Yeah potentially. NP has a response to nature's
profit. We've seen NP being used from the mid lane and being used from the safe
lane, try to overwhelm Shadowfiend, just bring that extra hero to his lane
because he is the lane dominator and somehow you need to be able to break those lanes and next profit seemed like a
Very good option so far from what we have seen the scaling
Like it's always gonna be there
But there is a certain timing where Shadowfinn just feels
Overall better because of like his timing where he wants to play with the second ages potential with the banner and try to close out
The game this is where Shadowfinn feels very strong and then of course once we get to that level 25 talent as well
The hero does tend to pop off
There is a ton of flex potential coming out of your Deeders, because Nature's Prophet
could be played as their mid laner or their safe laner, or it's a grandmaster hero for
Ekki, who's been playing a lot of Nature's Prophet support.
Same goes for the Beastmaster, it can be played from that mid lane, it could be Malik's hero,
so it is going to be hard to get a good read on it right now as QVision.
Just knowing Ekki though, I feel like he's asking for that Nature's Prophet.
Wouldn't be too surprised if that one came out, makes it a little bit more difficult
for P-Vision regardless though, that means they just have to fully focus on what they
are comfortable with and what they want and they are about to pick the overall 18th pick
from the game pick and bands number and that means this is their most important pick of
the draft.
They can protect it with two bands after this one and taking their time here clearly also
shows that they put thought into it and they keep it flexed as well with the pango coming
out we've seen it both in the mid lane and the off lane this tournament both very successfully
So it's a very solid pick here because you're playing against the summons from Beastmaster and the trains from Nature's prophets
You're gonna have that extra a we damage early on and then you're playing against snapfire lich as backline supports
You just rolling thunder them you try to disrupt their team fighting from the distance
And there's not that much to play off of the pangol is running in the face of these supports
Shut up in both of loves the pairing as well with the extra bit of a minus armor
So the damage is gonna be through the roof
He loves also heroes who are going to be providing vision for him
Someone's gonna that's gonna be soaking up the damage as well and disrupting the backline
So they can't get the free spell casting as well and also to stop lock them so he can get those right clicks in
So it feels very good
I would say like we haven't seen too much of a pango like it started tournament very very slow and this
People were like, you know what it's still a very good hero. It's pango
We've seen even the previous series didn't have that much success, but pango is still a pango
And indeed the puck gets banned out, so no surprises there, I'm expecting the hero for
a copy, despite it's a bismol win rate.
Let's see who needs to see what they're going to focus on.
Maybe their bands will reveal where they think that Pango will go.
It's hard to think that Pango won't be played by Nelen because there were moments where
I thought it flexed it to notice because it seems like Nelen would have had the better
lane there, but no one just wants to play it from that mid lane and take over the game.
Yeah, he did play it three times and it's not an easy matchup for him in the mid lane by any means.
This is Snapfire, she probably is one of the stronger lane dominators, other than maybe like
Viper and Sniper, these type of heroes, but because she's playing in your face with her
innate ability up to 35% extra damage, Fango does struggle. Like we've seen this matchup
multiple times in the previous patch as well, where Pango just straight up the dummies, like he
can't lane, like there's a big, big difference between two of these. Like, copy against no one,
of course no one more experienced mid laner and always pushes those matchups, but we'll have
to see because if this is going to be the matchup for him, it's not going to be an easy one.
Yeah, slaughter out one more all-laner to be removed.
Which off layers do we like to play in this game?
I'd be okay with some potentially even Nightstalker, I think he is.
We've seen a good amount of Nightstalkers at the start of the tournament, they looked
all pretty impressive because of the tempo they could put up, another Vision Hero as
well.
MP, if this is going to be for MP, it is going to be for MP most likely, there is a little
bit of a flex if they want to be playing it from position four but against the
two supports as well he loves to play against these heroes.
I do wonder if they want to like pivot a nature's prophet to four of them and
just pick a hero that stuns for them just something secondary like an alchemist.
I'm also fine with Dawnbreaker. I think this hero also gives them the counter
initiation like I wanted to see whether they're gonna go for maybe slightly
more aggressive option, but this is more of a defensive because you have Bango to play with,
you have a clockwork as well who can initiate for you, and it also feels very good always against
the Nature Prophet if it's going to be a core, it's a very good way to counter initiate against
the Beastmaster. So again, very, very solid draft from BVision already. Yeah, maybe this is a reason
to put that Nature Prophet as a support. But about 15 seconds left on the clock, they won't need it,
they'll go for the Terrible straight away, so that will be the carry coming out for Rune Eaters,
as we do see people pick up their heroes will be the Beastmaster in the middle lane
and it's not a fine Age of Prophet, we gotta see the Ekki in Age of Prophet as he predicted.
It's for sure the Malik's not fire too. I really thought they'd go through the Alchemist just
so that they could have that like bonus hero to play off of and have the connections from
Nature's Prophet but Terrorblade is a great hero in terms of just fighting that SF in that like
like in standing on the ground and hitting them.
The issue with Terriblade though is just
if Rune Eaters are not able to control the enemy supports
and they're free-rating about fly casting Bramble after Bramble,
it's not the easiest Terriblade game in the sense
that he's going to be getting bounced around and controlled.
A good amount of physical damage, I assume,
that's why they decided to pick up TB as overall last pick.
And Beastmaster from the mid lane as well,
this is the hero that you are also going to be building into Helm
because you want to be hitting the timing.
This is not the Agadam sector. We've seen Beast Masters being played from the safe lane with going for the same exact build
So quite a lot of tempo that they can definitely push with this mid Beast Master and Terrablades
I think they
Like both teams are kind of satisfied with the drafts that they got but again
I'm gonna give the edge to the P vision
I feel like this type of draft scales really well and the counter initiation that they have the scaling
It's gonna be much more interesting
I would say then like even I predicted I gave them good 20% before seeing the draft those chances definitely went up after seeing what they draft for themselves
For runeaters if they can just get through that hurdle that they've had in that first 10 minutes and go even
I really believe in what they've been able to do in the mid game and their heroes enable them to have a very strong mid game
So just try to not get skill checked on these lanes and third draft is a very solid shot of running the game over
And do you feel like the lanes to skill check that you're talking about is it actually going to be skill based or did they
Also draft better lanes on the side of pVision or is it 50-50 to me?
It seems quite even which means that it's just going to be about you know individually stepping up and trying to have a more comfortable early game
Whoever has the more comfortable early game will set themselves up for success in that mid game
We'll see which one of these two teams will take the lead for that
Quarterfinals, a lot of pressure, I feel like maybe, do you think what caused that pressure might get the Runeaters or from what you've seen, this is not an issue for them?
I feel like them being underdogs and also making sure that they already eliminated two big teams, two big Orcs, Virtus.Pro and Aurora, I feel like this also gives them quite a lot of confidence and probably having a better placement than they expected to have so far in the tournament, so I think they're more than good.
More than good?
Yeah.
We'll see which one of these two teams will take game one of this elimination quarter-final.
Peavision, Rooneeders, coming your way with Cap and SPG.
The favorites of the entire tournament is matched up against a team that nobody thought would make playoffs.
Rooneeders have surprised many.
In fact, I would dare say all of us in making it this far in the first place,
but they're matched up against the toughest opponent of perhaps the whole tournament.
tournament, P-Vision have been monsters lately.
This is a very clear David versus Goliath and Avery,
I wanted to give you a funny little stat here
about how big of a difference there is
between these players and teams.
You've got two players on the side of Runeaters
who have made less than $50,000 in tournament winnings.
So already they have far surpassed that
just by being able to place top eight.
Meanwhile, on the other side,
you have a player on P-Vision,
no one who's been around for a while.
These tournament winnings are four times the entirety of Ruminators put together.
Only four.
Only four, actually.
He's got to be a couple of mil at least, so.
Yes.
That's not the biggest disparity I've ever seen, but it's probably out there.
Uh, it's, I don't know, I think it's kind of nice being that severe of an underdog.
There's just no pressure on you.
You know, there was, once upon a time, there was another team that were considered very
big underdogs, and they went on to win two T.O.X.
Sometimes it works in your favor.
You just come out of nowhere, you surprise people, you have your comfort picks, the meta
is working for you, you're just vibing in the game, you don't have to overthink anything,
you don't have to bring any baggage into these series when you lose a game, maybe you yell
it out, you move on to the next one and it's not some recurring argument, right, you just
go next.
And there's a strength to that, there's a power to that.
A lock gets built up over time on some of these squads that are with together, or with
each other for so long, you don't have to deal with that.
So there are some advantages for Roon Eaters in this run and I always say these teams that
surprise people that win series that everyone says they had no business winning that series,
well they have business winning those series.
And you should study what they're doing because they're likely doing something in this meta
that is giving them a big advantage over some of these top teams that they're just not thinking
about or not aware of.
Now our panel highlighted a lot of those things for Roon Eaters but in your own studies of
the game what have you seen that you feel like makes this team a bit special?
I found the interview before the game with copy pretty interesting. He talked about how they
They don't do themselves as the most lane dominant team
They're not going to invest in lanes too hard
But they have a very good macro idea how they want to play the map right?
I think that is what you have to respect against the squad
They're not going to crush you in 10 minutes
I kind of run you over like some tempo to you
But they know how to push the waves get the pickoff have it lead into an objective if you look at this kind of lineup
They have no shortage of lane show. You're playing with very unterrably
blade, snapfire, who are just going to spam push the waves and they have global
connectivity and then you have strong pick-off potential with this lich. We
saw some early all chat with the lich coming out. This is a hero that
thrives in that kind of environment. It's one of the supports that can give you
huge pick-off kilter from that five position and just kind of take it and
snowball across the map. So this is the type of line if you can be really careful with that.
I think this is something that worked well for Liquid in the games we saw, that
they couldn't emulate every time but man when it gets cooking it really can cook
some of these teams that just aren't prepared to deal with the map pressure so
I think that's the big thing if we look out for here.
Peavision they're a very disciplined team I don't expect they're gonna fall
into this trap too much and that'll be a very different challenge for Runears
than some of the previous series we saw but again look for the late game timing
to scale the pickoff pressure around the map those that 40 to 50 minute mark is
where I expect this team to shine. Well it's a good thing that winning lanes
is in a part of the game plan for Dark Lord because we're really seeing this
pressure mount up in this bottom lane but the other two lengths are doing very
well for themselves. Beastmaster and Snapfire both ahead and as long as not
too much is given away in this bottom lane in pretty good shape coming out of
here. Just such a strong lane with the last pick Dawnbreaker. Yeah you got a
counter pick with Terriblade but that was more I want Terriblade for the game as an
SF counter matchup so I think they can put some damage into the pango. You're
You're thinking about everything here, not just the lane matchup.
Is he gonna go down? He's hit by the Bramble.
Trying to make his way, staying out of sight, up-noticed.
Good tree cuts.
Really, very nice.
The thing is, you almost rather just die and come back here.
Yeah, he is missing so much CS at this point in time.
Triple range creep onto the tower.
I guess finally gonna be the one to die here. That's gonna be first blood, and yeah, this is so much
golden experience being missed out on. As long as P-Vision are able to continue to zone out Dark Lord here,
it's gonna be massive. Whoa.
You'd definitely rather just died at this point. This is way too much missy as to the tower a lot of missed experience
At least the lich gets to come back in full and bring us out
Should help the situation
Not what ruin use we're looking for in the statement
That's gonna be a struggle in this series. I think because I do think p vision they are just the stronger landing team
Like it's just objectively true. There's no doubt about it. You have to recognize that it doesn't mean they're gonna win the series
But you have to recognize that as ruinators and kind of just
You know throw some of these things off your back quickly, right? All right
are safely we miss the range groups we got a bad change whatever just keep
looking for opportunities
they get the kill now it is the one to die first so satanic does get the
experience that's what shared experience for that kill you're not too
worried about who's getting the early form up here honestly because if you're
out you can buy that they do manage to get the turn around kill and bottom lane
so that bottom lane is now actually one for one is dark lord kills the dawn
breaker out that of course comes with its own set of problems as that means
Mr. Dawnbreaker is going to come back with full resources, full mana, is usually the
biggest issue for this hero in lane.
Got something out of the meta though.
If you can get some pulls off here, not a bad exchange overall, and you can always bring
that fury on into the bottom lane.
If you expect this Dawn to return, and you think you can all in him again or heal this
tearblade up, go for a kill, or defensive kind of turnaround play, you have that option.
I think the mid threat, probably not going to be there on this pango.
It's a very nice pango game in that sense, he has some good core matchups here, no one
can do a lot of work.
You're maybe a little worried about Primal Roar and some damage, but I don't feel like
we've seen that kind of connection on the pango in this tournament.
And if you're only worried about the roar here, I think your itemization can deal with
it in that sense as well.
You always have to dawnbreak your ultimate to bail you out of the situation.
I think no one's going to get the lincoln.
That's kind of what I was alluding to.
It could be really nice in this game.
You have some nice spells to block with the linkens and not a lot of ways to pop it.
I could see it being on the menu here for no one.
If he's just going to rely on the Solar Guardian, I think that is enough in this game, so I don't think you have to go link this here.
You could just try and scale a bit harder into the Terriblet, and that would feel pretty nice as well.
But it is coffee getting the better of him. East does win this matchup, has a nice LCS lead, looking for the war play.
Do you have the image on this?
And teams are going to be slow. They have the opportunity to get off the rolling thunder.
It's going to hit coffee right into a bramble, also at the high ground though.
That is a chance for him to escape perhaps.
Now, got hit by the cogs. Really good aim there from DeKalus.
It's kind of surprised they went for that play.
I just didn't see the damage follow up.
Like you have a Sprout, a level one Sprout for 70.
Yeah, that's not.
The Lich isn't even there.
Too casual for my liking.
Yeah, if it was Lich instead of Nature's Prophet there,
then I can understand why.
I still don't think they get that kill, but it's closer,
for sure.
That's kind of play you almost have to bring Malak into.
Like keep you to snap mid on some cheeky style move
and just get that kill, then you can walk back top.
But the wave was pushing him to him.
They want to leave the lane, try to make a move.
All I have to say, Tannick, with the supports,
he should go down here, nice pick up.
Peavision just got to kind of be a little bit protective
of their lanes.
So whenever they make one of these moves,
even when root eaters die on it,
it just means that they're gonna come back to life
and teleport somewhere,
especially if using the nature's profit freedom.
So the biggest thing in this early game
is what Ekki's gonna be able to find.
If he can continue to find some cheeky kills,
get up a fast early fighting item,
whether it's, you know, Urn, Commit for the Vessel, whatever it is.
It starts snowballing out that, pump his own net worth up, he's pretty high level here,
higher level than the Terrible.
Yeah, also higher net worth.
This is getting kind of ridiculous.
They killed Darklord again in that bottom lane, there's no surprise to it, really.
I could have been cornered here, quite literally, on the map, and there he goes.
Now back through the GP vision, keep the pressure up on Darklord, but does notice even need
What the hell?
Between him and nine class, they've killed him again.
Ooh, nice pickup throw in the mid lane.
Echie does manage to teleport in and block off no one, allowing the axes to come through
and help get the kill.
And that beast did a lot of damage to him.
The last axe swing, almost 300 magical coming through, a thousand from the copy in total.
Even more of a boost for Echie here, who's having the best game of anybody on Runears by far.
Yeah, it's looking like at this point. It's gonna be ecchi and coffee have to do you a lot of heavy lifting
Actually, John McGrill's is gonna go off coffee trying to get out of it
But it's got stank by the Bramble hit by the stun probably dead either way
That just felt like you lost sight of the solar guardian being available there
Yeah, yeah, because he's mega rich on this beast
You want the early phase boots going into potentially come with an overlord
We're gonna try and snowball this game off of some mass summons that the supports don't deal with well
This is kind of a strat we saw against some blockwork liners in general
Now it's Echie's turn to get picked off
I'm not totally sure what he saw there because DeCaulis was I mean he was next to him. He was killing hordes next to
Next to Echie and Echie still kind of pushed forward and gets caught and gets up his killing spree
So now the two heroes that were having the best game on Runeator
So both died and been slowed down tremendous
Satanic, making the rotation bottom, he wants to get involved in this game and this bottom
lane has just been a food trough.
Yeah, sometimes I feel like safe lane tower is a bait, you know?
For sure.
Like you just keep trying to go back to defend it, you just keep bleeding out heroes.
Gotta respect the early fighting power of this dollbreaker, it's a terrifying hero when
you can have the resources high on the lane.
Nobody's able to enter this area unless you're willing to bring multiple cores, which we
just haven't seen, right?
Of course I've not been rotating yet. I do think Malak on the Sapphire can bring you that extra firepower
He's gonna rotate to it with the kisses. This is the exact move that can really punish
They need to kill so badly and they will get it. Rolling Thunder not out in time. Copy does take a lot of damage here
They even throw up the blood grenade. They really feel like this is a chance
But there's too many heroes here. Runeers, Eaters have outnumbered them in the mid lane
And that's what you're talking about, right? Beautiful connections. You get numbers, you get tempo
All these heroes can play really fast around each other and I love that mallet rotated there
I think bringing this happen to me was the most powerful move in this early game for runeers because the fear is gonna be there no matter
What but you get this extra big ulti on top of the roar it turns copy into an even bigger threat if the tango is just sitting
In that lane that's the exact type of thing you want to see well look at that
They actually pass over the bottle to Ike so he could pick up the power rune which was an invisibility
So these master doesn't want to be running around looking for kills while he has no ultimate
But Lidge, Lidge can get a solo kill with Chainfrost potentially.
Let's go back up the hill.
It would have been so, so sweet if he did.
I was scouting the top camps.
Just one of those unlucky routes you take
because those bounty routes were too juicy to turn down.
Satanic's going to show in lane now.
Let's see if they think they have the opportunity.
Wrapping around is Malik.
Still go here.
You're able to lane one of the stuns.
You might just want to.
If they don't make this go soon, it's going to be Enki
potentially dying back to back here.
Or it's going to be the Beastmaster as he gets surrounded.
P-Visioner just now the ones to be playing around mid entirely.
Like, try to go for that kill and he's going to be killed by the SF like he is right down in the mid lane at the same time.
So, P-Visioner now winning both sides of the map and up to 2,000 net worth lead.
Have to be able to find those openings quickly or you got to just move on to the next play.
You can't linger in these opportunities against the top tier team.
Key vision are always going to be on the lookout. They're always going to fight something.
It's a bad death to bleed here. You still don't have that beast helm.
You're terribly, it's going to be on catch-up duty for a lot of these games.
You have to be careful of how much of an early lead you give Key Vision here.
Especially this Pangolier. This is the one hero I would be worried about injecting some extra gold into.
He got beat on lane, but he's going to very quickly come back here.
And this debusal can cause your cores a lot of problems in the early fights.
Some heroes that are pretty mana dependent.
Pick off on a support, double ults for that.
And probably nothing to feel amazing.
We'll farm an ancient campus well with it.
I already have Blink on the staff though, so if you can get involved,
some of these small plays are behind the Beastmaster Pressure.
Kind of want to see you pressure this tier 1 mid if you can continue to kill people here.
You want to translate these kills into some map control.
Maybe you're waiting for Tom on the Beast. We'll arrive now.
Oh, yeah, I'm surprised that little damage they did off of their successful mid-fight, you know, like five minutes ago.
We're sure, right?
I think those are situations, especially with Furion coming in with multiple points of nature's call, where you can just convert that into early tier ones.
Yeah, instead they went for the power run, then they made this whole ledge play, and obviously, well, that was a disaster.
Mid tower's gonna be taking attempted deny from the Helmedom creep.
Bit of a standoff, but ultimately no one does get that last hit.
Nice side steps there.
Gonna thwart this smoke.
On the P-Vision side, they're gonna have to go bottom, where there's also a smoke.
Yeah, really, there's gonna smoke to get out of here.
I think, and go through the gate.
They're trying to hunt Satanic a lot this game.
Which is pretty fair, this SS, a juicy kill in this early game.
Before he starts accelerating, maybe you can buy your time for Terrorblade to recover a
little bit, because Dark Lord's just on.
Creek doing you man. Isn't it too late for your for Ctani to be playing that part of the map?
A little bit. Like it's 13 minutes so you're really going to be still hanging around your safe
lane tower at this point it's just more efficient for you to be playing off of whatever ancient camps
are available. Could have lingered bottom for a long time maybe tried to catch him there I think
that play is just way too hopeful though. Again you don't want to be making hopeful plays you want
I still want to see them go for this fight around that's your one mid, if they can backstab
no one and start with a roared.
This is on him?
That fight looks straight forward.
I guess Solar Guardian is always a big one.
I was going to say, Solar Guardian, even if you kill the pango, I feel like the dog riker
is now popping that Solar Guardian to go after the tear blade here.
Blood grenade doesn't land.
Oh, they don't have a slowdown.
This is actually then, yeah, kind of out of position now at this point because they failed
to initiate on Dark Lord. Okay, that's an opening. Solar Guardian down. You lose the clock bottom.
Now this mid-plate becomes a lot more enticing. You can make a fast move and just try and hold
it in this pangolier. You're gonna get a lot of map control off of it. See if Copy wants to commit
for it or if he just feels he's held it over, Lord. Yeah, he's got a ace room, so if they were
of the same mind as you, right, they really could have had the opportunity to do something, but
it does seem like they just want to farm up. You don't have to force that move. I just think it's
the next point of attack here right I keep messing with satanic that is not the
man you want to mess with coffee's gonna come in with this haste rune but look
at all the pee vision a stack up here and well it's stack on stack as runeaters
went for another little two-man smoke here they've got the kisses they're
looking for the roar opportunity blink in for malek hit him with the cookie but
the rest of the team is too far behind they couldn't get the roar immediately
malek is down no man's land with the rest of his team terrorized away from them
Damn. Too disjointed. Way too disjointed to make a play like that in enemy territory where they're going to easily connect with everybody.
Very awkward. I think all these types of plays have to flow through the Beastmaster on that frontline.
He either has to be the initiator or he has to be right there when the point of contact happens.
Yeah. You don't have to get in a follow-up otherwise.
I mean, maybe you have, like, way later Blink-Bagger, you know, Shard Blitz, sure, that kind of play works, but that's a long way away.
We also still don't have an item on this Furion yet. Actually, holding 2000 gold, this is an Orchid Rush that can pay off if you get it at the right time and instantly make it work.
It can also backfire because you're just holding onto so much gold in this early game, you're missing some opportunity to invest in a transition item here.
I have an old-school roaming fury on idea that you've seen him do before.
It's just very hit or miss.
Like if it hits, it hits hard, if it misses, boy, you feel bad just...
You took all this gold in the early game and it's just sitting there.
Right.
Especially since Dawnbreaker is definitely in a relatively early BKB hero, SF can be
one.
I think it's always kind of good versus Pango because Pango doesn't want to build that item.
Yes.
It's amazing follow-up against no one here.
There's no dispel in this game too.
There's no natural way to remove it.
You're going to need some either utility from the dawn or just a dispel item yourself.
What shit he can build?
You can go mantle on this hero.
Go low to sword too.
Anyone?
Go linkins?
That we talked about?
Echee, good job.
We're timing there.
Well done.
Oh, the hook shot comes a little bit too late.
Okay, space created.
You have your helm of the overlord now.
Well, he gets an ancient, nice shaman.
Expect to see Copy try and accelerate this game right now.
If you invest in this from the mid lane, you need to go get towers, you need to get teamfights with it.
And play with some aggressive wards.
That key.
Not a bad one.
He gets a nice triangle ward. They...
might try to play with...
play to this, rather.
You have a lot of mobile heroes right now with the boots travel snap and the furan that can both connect on top of that beast play wherever it is.
So you have four heroes effectively behind where this piece goes, you assume that Ike's gonna be in that play as well.
A lot of strength behind this piece master right now on the map as P-Vision just continuing to dodge, farm up, push towards BKBs.
Alright Avery, you get your helmet over, Lord. You think you're gonna make a play right away?
That key. I'll die for this. You think you're gonna make a play right away? What is the worst ancient to see in the one ancient camp that you have?
camp that you have. Is it the ice shaman? It's probably the ice shaman. It's probably the
ice shaman, right? That's through some building, I guess. He probably has the worst spell,
no aura. He takes almost anything else here. Lizard's great, Golem's pretty solid. Dragon
is usually the best early. Uh, that's a crate. He's probably the best spell. Yes, the power,
sure. The Brawlers suddenly have the best spells, especially if you're for early kills.
Yes, for early on.
A little unlucky there.
Do get a tower out of it.
Response, their response is a little slow down here from P-Vision.
Gonna look for some stragglers.
You gotta start thinking about 20-minute torment there.
You wanna take all the early objectives with this beast help, if you can.
Alright, they all get out.
Nobody's gonna be caught on the side of that for root eaters.
But, P-Vision, they don't really care too much.
much sure you've got to call us trying to hunt for heroes but otherwise panko
dawn breaker SF they're all kind of farming that being said Runeaters has
done a good job of keeping that net worth from spiraling too badly
Territory will eventually catch up he just had such a rough early game it's
pretty nasty here comes the couple hookshot cogs into the dawn ult for a
chainstone combination that there's simply no way out of great fight from
You call us best here to take off the map right now.
Just as that orc can arrive for the fury on two.
You get a nice turn on play.
Yeah, fast kill from Malik and a faster TP
with nothing to stop it.
Really smart stuff.
Had damage though.
Yeah, yeah, I mean these cores are scaling up pretty nasty.
And they have free clearance apparently to go rush on.
They made the call.
They have the physical damage minus armor combo.
They could do it, right?
Oh yeah, that's something to take down very quickly here.
Maybe it's too short on time.
It's about to take 20 minutes, so maybe more attention
to Tormentor instead.
I don't think they necessarily need an early roach here either.
They're kind of just playing off Solar Guardians this game.
You get a Solar Guardian up.
You can play really aggressive.
You can just out farm the map.
You have your BKBs coming out.
Well, I was thinking about it in the way
that I feel like Rune Eaters can really only
get one kill at a time.
So I feel like most of the time it's going to be roar kisses.
And then they're going to kill that person, maybe they'll do some other damage,
get some collateral off with the rest of the kisses, but...
So if you have an Agents, I feel like it's a pretty big turn to what...
how Rooneyders want to be able to play a fight.
I do think Agents is great against them.
I would agree with that.
I just think you're looking towards the later ones.
I don't think this first one's too important.
Maybe you take it away from Rooneyders, there's some value there.
They're gonna send the creep at the mid tower.
Brought the Furion into the smoke.
Turn around, roar! Because they know they can't escape!
But unfortunately for them, the paint goes right behind the clockwork.
And they get the initiation anyway that's going to lead to the death of both the Beastmaster and the Nature's Prophet.
And now straight to Roshan. That is enough of a pick-off.
And P-Vision feel very comfortable doing this objective.
This dollbreaker pitch has worked out beautifully in this game.
Just shut down all of the macro idea from Rooney here in terms of we want to push flip waves in
and get that one clutch pick off with the Beastmaster or the Lich with the fear and TP in
and translate that into objectives. You can't find that pick off because no matter who you go on
in this game, it's going to get turned around by Solar Guardian and then P-Vision can connect.
All of a sudden, that teamfight is not favorable for you. You're losing the window in this game
to build momentum with this Beastmaster. And now the targets just get harder and harder to go on.
Solar Guarding is not a long cooldown spell.
Especially with the levels that notice got off of the lane,
and they just continued to farm, had a very early level 15.
So the minus 20 second cooldown there.
Roon Eaters have been playing this little corner over here for a while.
They stole away the wisdom shrine, and they're hoping to get a pick.
It's not really a pick though, it's a full out brawl in this area,
and the slower the fight goes, the worse it's going to be for Roon Eaters.
Now with the Rolling Thunder going straight to the TV doesn't even get the chance to get off a Sunder
Covered by both the stunts and the fear of the SF
It'll be three dead on the side of Rooney
There's an all they got out of it was nine classes Dark Willow
The armor reduction from this SF is so nasty with this lineup
All the physical coming out from the other two cores the second
He's in range of you with that aura and you get hit by any sort of swashbuckled jump
Solar Guardian comes down, you get hammered, you're just gone.
Like, you need so much armor in this game to survive the burst physical.
Even terribly, it just kind of gets shredded over here.
And if these very chaotic fights are going to be different if the fight was a little bit more straightforward
or if Beastmaster is going in and initiating, then all that physical damage, well, you can mitigate it a lot with the Lich.
But here, you just don't have a clear, a frost shield target, right?
KeyVision are hitting three different four different heroes all at the same time.
It feels like at this point we're left with the...
Runeaters being able to do the ghost shoving and some hitting of towers, but...
No real game plan to take fights.
You're just also not outscaling them here.
him here. With the investment in the Orchid on the Fury on the Helmet Overlord on the
Beast, it's going to take a long time for the Ultra Late Game Snapfire to kick in here
because it's an offlane snap. Don't have the same level and pace and trajectory as
the mid. There's a lot of pressure on this Terriblate to somehow win some teamfights
here. Checking in on Dark Lord, he's still behind the SF and the Dawnbreaker, 12,000
worth. Man, working towards the hurricane pike. But nothing that is gonna be that threatening
to be vision especially with the tankiness of their heroes right now. You got 3,000 HP on this
dawn breaker. And he doesn't even have an AC. Like that's just raw HP, but as soon as he's gonna
have a ton of armor. So every fight he could just take the fight straight to the TV. It's a really
really nice AC game. No one battling with something here. Yeah, well, seems the battle
is over pretty quickly. They're ready to go. I think the minus armor is going to be overwhelming.
From presence plus an AC, you throw any extra on top of that, and all these physical spells
are just going to be insane on damage, you're getting hard food pulled in, so it's hurricane
It's going to be too fast, too overwhelming.
Michael almost getting chopped up here.
Hookshot could have stopped that one and instantly the Donald behind it.
Too fast.
You do not have a back line against this combination, whether it's the pango blinking with his rolling
thunder or it's the hookshot initiation.
Both hit the back line and the Donald dismantles it.
They might just go high ground here.
Even if you have damage pango, you have ages for another minute and a half.
Why not? What are you really afraid of in terms of that teamfight?
It's just looking too easy for P vision.
It's a tall break of pick. It was way too good.
Yeah. I mean, you said it. You felt like this lineup wasn't really about that first Roshan shows.
So how far ahead they are that they're really to go high ground with a minute and a half left on this first round?
SFK Snowball out of control and we are seeing it here.
It's great backup. We need to charge and that is a pre-25 minute range drax.
18 minutes to cut the wave, copy has been playing around with these humble overlord creeps plus...
Oh, we get a replay of them.
Was it a fly or something?
Probably a fly.
That's fine.
Well, I feel like for the next...
Oh yeah, there it is, there it is.
Admin, get him.
Well, it feels like for if the game lasts another 20 minutes,
minutes, runeaters are gonna be dodging the whole time. There's the AC. I mean, you know,
you can reflect that I guess. Hypothetically, Avery like Wynn does runeaters with combination
of items on what heroes finally puts them at a spot where they could take a five on
five. Or do you feel like this lineup can never take a five on five once you're behind?
pretty difficult. The damage has to come from the tear blade which means someone
has to go in and tank and nobody is taking this damage. So then your backup is
you have to control the damage and that means you need to land a primal roar
likely on SF and trying all in it. Or get a chain frost. Okay. Actually do get that
kill now. They're not gonna get everybody out. That is for sure. How many
The heroes get out, one, all supports will die for the kill on the cost over the space
created.
You have to see that kind of chain stun off a roar that goes on to one of these big cores
where a chain cross can do a lot of wrath and nature, comes through, kisses on top.
You can kind of burst some of these targets if no saving item comes out, which technically
there's still no saving item in this lineup.
The one hurricane pike is on Satanix, so if you go on him, nobody's going to be able to
force staff to remember anything. You do have a shot to all in this S.F. and I think you have to take him.
There goes the roar but it got off the BKB. That makes things awkward.
Well, Claude is already getting tear-iced away. Not getting any damage done. They give him the cookie to hop on out of there, but...
And there goes that chance. Out the window. Very fast reaction from Satanic.
Oh, it's the flyback?
Put him on camera, let me see.
The flies.
I don't know what the admin is supposed to do, right?
It's like, you gotta catch it, bro.
How are your fly catching skills?
We've got a cheering that reaction speed.
Well, maybe some outside forces are bothering P-Vision, but nothing inside the game is really bothering them.
13,000 out with lead of 27 minutes. Oh yeah, they're cruising.
To call us himself, you know, very greedy buildup, soaring into straight lotus.
There's your defensive item. Yep. Throw this Lotus on the SF. Your ability to all in him goes down considerably
You can even go into more Lincoln Spears here
You can also throw them on the pango to try and just let no one have a free go at it into that final roar
Nine classes gonna go an octareen third item when essence distiller blink
Hell yeah, that's that's a bill. That's a dark willow build right there
I just gonna break the smoke well. It's gonna break him. That was fast. Yeah, it really was
was. I think he might spot a courier. Unfortunately, it's a clockwork courier. Maybe he could stop
the Lotus for a little while. What a hookshot. Damn, Nicole is catching him on the gate
here. And again, every hookshot is a dawn break girl. It's been inbound. Dawn is one
of those heroes that now it does get the courier. You kind of forget how powerful this hero
is until you're in one of these games with like one initiator and you're trying to play the map
and then it just feels like you can't make any move. Yeah. Similar to Underlord in some games,
or Underlord gets that axe and you're like man every move I've ever made in this game has been
into this global ultimate and then by the time I respawn off of Dime that I feel like that global
ultimate is back because teams are very disciplined in not giving openings while it's on cooldown.
I mean, this thing is ticking right now.
20 seconds.
Is this lower guarding Nicol Mack?
10 for your terribly. What is your window here?
Yeah. There is never a window.
So, you kind of just have to deal with the spell,
and it's very difficult for the signups that are based around one initiator.
I'd also see the buildup is really frustrating, right?
Like, as runeaters, you go, you're trying to push out certain lanes,
set up a map in a spot where you can actually make this smoke,
smoke, dedicate three or four people's time and effort to go and make a move.
Meanwhile, Donbreaker's just kind of like hanging out.
He's just farming up neutrals, and then he gets to go from clockwork.
You know, ult me.
100% he's very efficient.
All the onus is on you to do something in this game where he's out farming you.
Maybe we should see more support Zeus, you know?
He's in the same place now.
That's all I'm saying.
This is a little different.
A little different thing.
It won earlier in the event.
Well, it's not counted out.
That's true, that's true.
Board dropped.
On triangle. This is going to be where Runeater's trying to make a stand of sorts.
They do have VKBs on their course.
That's a big deal for the Beast and the Sapphire here.
Gives you a little more potential to go in and haul in that first target off the road.
And Roche is going to be on the top side here when it spawns, which should spawn fairly soon.
So this is kind of the only chance that Runeater's has.
It's the only chance for them to take a 5 on 5. I'm not going to say win it.
But, you know, maybe to trade things out, gold experience-wise, it's something that's
favorable for them.
Maybe they can roach on somehow off of it, or they just steal.
There, he's aggressively going through the gate with nine-class.
Got the orchid on nine-class, chain for us.
Not going to be enough damage because it didn't bounce anywhere.
And of course the two sports are dead, because every single time the two sports show anywhere,
making a sort of move, the dawn breaker is there to kill them.
So much confidence behind these initiations.
You just blink in with the dark willow, you don't land anything, you still have to back up.
And quickly, you get a tormentor here.
Butterfly done for Satanic already, he is 10,000 ahead of the Terrorblade here.
The tormentor died so fast.
20, level 23 to 31 minutes, I mean, I don't know man, are you...
We're getting some crazy experience numbers in these games lately free map. They're gonna make the most of it
You have to contest this Roche on now. He has 1,000 experience per man
It's not bad
I'm surprised that he doesn't aren't just doing Roche immediately I
Mean you don't have to but yeah, it's the one chance that ring eaters has right in a way
Okay, so if you're a P-Vision, you don't have to do anything until you have a clear enough advantage that it's guaranteed.
It just got satanic on the dawnbreaker as well. The scale is just compounding here.
Try on the clockwork, it gets lowless.
Oh, that's gonna be a lotus chain for us. Not that he was gonna survive either way there, eh?
getting jumped by P vision. Tear rise goes out there are actually gonna try and
save back glass but the kids are gonna reignate on them. Copy's able to get it
with his BKB but so no dark lord has been changed on. Pango finds him with the
rolling thunder and then safe panic just kind of casually walks and it holds.
Yeah that's gonna be the terror play issue for the entirety of the game. Pango
with a very good against him. That's not what I have to build BKB but if you don't
you get chain stuff.
Just a casual fight right there.
And now the big items get to arrive.
Right there is your Lincoln spear.
Here for that you go on this pango just diminished considerably.
You've got an extra life on the SF.
When that Aegis expires, he'll have a satanic to replace that,
so you're kind of always dealing with an extra life on SF.
There's also already almost 25.
It's just, it's going to get insane this early in the game.
Very hard to find any sort of clear jump.
Yeah, you get the Dark Willow, but I feel like roaring Dark Willow is a guaranteed kill
in an almost concession of the team fight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're saying I'm gonna get this guy and get the hell out.
Yeah, you have no staying power.
No.
This Terriblade would need two or three more items.
He would need Satanic, BTB, Butterfly of his own to be able to stand there after Gorgos
out on support, so this can be satanic. Hitting the high ground key is three experience off 25.
Wait spawns. I'll lucky for the man. Gets 25.
Now those shadow races have the potential to one or two shot heroes. It's gotta be one of the most
obvious talent choices at 25 in the game.
Oh
100% I think that's her soul's grants the other percent cast speed is so what I don't have ever seen someone take that talent
And there's also those talents when you get there just instant snap it like so you see people debate, you know
Well, I could see a game for a or B. It's always just jamming a but yeah
Even those SS who used to go like the yasha kaya blink build were just all in on their old
even then they were still wanting their Shadow Rays to do a lot of hand pitch.
So yeah, nice talent to grab here though for sure. Close to that Darmraker 25 as
well, also very nice talent. So you got to wrap the map, try and bait him in, get
some crazy high ground defense where they overextend. That would be the dream.
Amp damage for Satanic, that's also the dream here. In case he needed a little
DPS hidden for over 600 upon. Oh
Goodbye, yeah, you can't do that
Can't get anywhere near this man right now
Can't let you get too close
Two lanes of barracks runeaters
I mean there hang on red here. Don't really
See even like theory how they could win
I thought you'd get someone at the fountain?
Yeah, with what mechanisms to relocate them into the fountain?
I mean, that's for you to figure out.
I just came up with the idea, you figure out the mechanism.
Alright, alright, buy 5-4 staffs.
Drag them some close to your fountain.
Nope, nope, not against Lincoln, not against Lotus.
Copy, already in half-handle. Try to go cookie initiation, follow up cookie.
They do manage to quickly kill the dark willow.
But the rolling thunder has stopped a lot of things now the dawn ult is going to come in once again dark lord is in the middle of this getting stunned up
Notice. Yeah, man. He is so tanky these shots in the chair Blake do nothing to him nothing to satanic either
Just a big slumber battling back
Gotta look for the big thunder here. Yeah, it's here on the option
But people should already resetting and between the Lotus and the lengthians opportunity here
How do you get close enough to get that?
Just got to send it in, hurricane pike in and get it.
We go to no one, pick up like it was there, there was nothing to break in.
Well, that'll do game one here, very decisive victory from P-Vision.
A lot to think about going into the game two if you're ruining yours,
because they've shown some good games here so far, but this was just an absolute demolishing.
On a strategic level too, like I think this draft kind of only does one thing.
You get some tempo off of summons, you can play some early plays.
I think some of that went okay, but then you're kind of designed around splitting them up on the map and fighting that pick
Off off a roar and every time that exists. There's a solar guardian turnaround
Then what is this line up really doing that you're left in the okay
We can trade farm and scale, but you're not outskilling this game like their tricorps is just way stronger, so
Little out draft that I think you gotta go into game two and kind of try and adjust some of those things
Maybe a lower cooldown and a shader for a copy in the mid could help a lot
I think it's really hard to play this kind of hero against a team like P-Vision if that's your home ego
So I would like to see that and I also think the early game was a problem
Like the early game was okay to get into the big game
It just stalls out in this type of lineup because it's too easy to read
You got to make the game either more chaotic or more confusing for P-Vision in terms of how do we react to what's happening this game?
Because the reactions are very straightforward
Someone's getting going on I solar guardian and SF joins the fight
There's even a terrorizer hookshot to help turn it around
And we're just chillin'. We're farming.
And the second we get that one turn around, we go in the road, we go in the tormentor.
This game is accelerating.
The Terribly had the worst start of everybody, so he can't help you pick up the slack.
Yeah.
And this game just ends up looking really one-sided.
It's got to be very frustrating, like, coming into this, you know,
Copy said it, you said it, the like, 3 Eaters had
what they thought was a very strong idea of how to be able to play the mid-game.
And in some, some ways, they did execute that.
It was just one hero pick.
encounters it so badly.
And a hero that I imagine, like we haven't seen much
Dawnbreaker in this meta, they probably haven't been running
into it at all in this run through.
So yeah, just great drafting from KeyVision, not much to
think about for them going into game two and a whole lot
for root-eavers.
Thank you very much, gentlemen.
The KeyVision taking this game in particular was maybe not
that big of a surprise, but the way they did was a lot more
convincing than I think we saw coming.
because we figured this lich Terriblade was gonna do maybe just a little bit better than what it ended up doing, Effie.
Yeah, that bottom line was unfortunate, I would say.
I think they killed Terriblade three times in seven minutes,
and at some point, Terriblade had, like, lower network on the enemy support within the first ten minutes of the game,
which that's not a position you want your last pick, Terriblade, to the end,
because in that mid-game, they were bringing Statenix SF to almost every fight,
whereas Dark Lord just had to sit in the jungle and play for the comeback game.
Yeah, they were putting quite a lot of pressure on this Dawnbreaker.
I don't know if they respected it enough, sure.
The carry-to-carry matchup is okay, but the lane is definitely not okay,
because you have nothing as TB to stop Dawnbreaker's spells from going off.
You have pull from lanes which you are getting also slightly later.
You're also not maxing out your things, so it doesn't feel as good,
and they got pushed out of the lanes relatively early on,
which does open up, you know, Dawnbreaker to get solo levels.
It does allow nine class to move to the mid lane, contest the four, contest the six,
and eight minute rune, knowing that Dawnbreaker, she can also come into these fights.
Yeah. And I think what you mentioned, the class is you just free up nine class, right?
You get that bottom tower so early on and that dark religious sits in it.
And Kofi on his Beastmaster did actually end up winning mid,
but he even just brought the heroes to him and they countered any of the plays
that he wanted to make and they couldn't play through their highest net worth hero either.
Yeah, gestating affects their impacting ruin eaters quite negatively in that. Why couldn't what couldn't offline help more with that?
Why couldn't there be rotations coming out from ecu?
And I just thought that could be everywhere. I mean they they did rotate and Malik did come with mid with a few more diverse
Cusses and ecu did show up, but it just felt so easy for them to die
Like and there were moments where they just kind of missed up and died like ecu walked up mid at some point and just thought
insta-killed so I do feel that Pusion we're just a step ahead of them and
outplaying them. Yeah absolutely I mean there there was a point that in time
where a snap far like she makes that rotation to the middle lane but it does
feel like it again it opens up the other lanes as well because you are playing
against non-breaker she hits that early little safe so she means that in every
single engagement you need to bring an extra hero because their damage is
relatively limited and even though he was having a relatively good time like he
thing as you said like even had more network than TV at one point up to go
for more like a scaling build to try to get the you know maybe some little
valley out of that orchid but also they did shut them down in the mid lane
pretty heavily and I feel like this type of a draft is kind of in like it needs
to do one thing like it needs to snowball pretty heavily if you're gonna
be able to push that through the mid game and I also feel that sure you have
range snapfire like you have your nature's profit from the offline they're
doing okay but to see the big picture in some of these mid game and late game
fights that TV he doesn't enjoy having these heroes in his lineup like he wants
somebody to soak up the damage somebody to provide the vision and Beastmaster
he is kind of that guy but the snapfiring she also wants to keep the distance
same goes for Lich same goes for nature's profit and he really doesn't
enjoy it no and then with the Beastmaster not having the greatest time
because he was very focused it just slows everything down and that beast master getting
focused i believe the cost that is something you also want to show us yeah i mean the way they
played around the mid lane as we said like don't break her she's having that good of a time and
we are gonna be seeing you know second i'll just play that real quick the technology is
not working at the moment so let me see it again yeah here we go there it is we made it work and
Yeah, they're making a move on to no one trying to, you know, maybe get something done,
maybe try to relieve the pressure from the side lanes, but they're gonna be able to get the kill.
Like they don't have any vision on the high ground, Cods, they do provide vision.
So even if he didn't hit him with the Cods, it would be a hit from 9-5s that could potentially
end that Beastmaster in the mid lane. And again, like Copy right now, he's in an okay spot. They're
trying to make a move to Collis, again, rotating from the top lane, making sure that everything
is going to be okay for his mid laner. He did pick it up and again Dawnbreaker hitting
that relatively early level 6, 8 minutes and she's also kind of level 7 at this point.
So he's getting baited and there's going to be another clip where no one this time around
he's the one initiating using rolling thunder and immediately stopping it with another Dawnbreaker
connection making sure that they are getting the value out of that hero plus also because
the supports paper having that good of a time like we even saw Clopper being level 6, 7 or
8 minutes into the game, which is going to be, again, removing some of the pressure from
the side lanes.
Shadow Fiend, he also got a kill in the top lane while all this was happening, because
they don't have enough damage, they don't really have the setup to play against the
Shadow Fiend.
And also, they got a respect to Dawnbreaker every single time.
You need that extra hero.
Yeah, notice that Dawn had such a great game, because even after countering the Beastmaster,
it was also just able to make plays like, you just get a hook shut in and then they
were able to capture him in the jungle farming.
And any play that Runeaters were able to make, Notice was just there with a lot of networks,
so it was really hard after some point.
And in the same vein that Don countered a lot of the initiations early game, so did
Nynclas on his Willow.
He had a few key terrorizes.
There was one smoke that Runeaters tried to take where they wrapped around with Don Brecker
and Lich, and Nynclas got a two-man terrorize there, and then earlier two minutes before
that too.
So there was the counter initiation from both heroes in that offlane.
Yeah, and I think also something that I respect from P-Vision is that it was clear that they also respected what Runeater's brought to the table,
because even though all that went so well for them, you're wondering like why wasn't this game shorter?
Why didn't they win earlier? It was because the cost, they gave that respect.
Well, they definitely did. I mean, this is the single o' limb, so you are going to maybe wait for another 5-10 minutes, go for extra Roshan as well,
But they understood what needed to be done.
They shut down this Beastmaster.
Helm of the Overlord from the Midlane can be very tricky.
Understanding that both of the supports
they really don't like to play into this.
Like, it can overwhelm them because they don't have
like too many defensive things against them.
And for the supports on the side of Rune Eaters,
they did not equal.
They had 24 deaths combined.
Shaver probably one of the highest amount of deaths
in the relatively short game
because you've seen some long games as well.
At least I saw Ike dying multiple times
from two spells basically, Prisons plus the Minus Summer from Dango, it's just not fun.
Yeah, is that something that was to do with the play we talked about them having the potential
to get outplayed in this game or do we feel that this can be fixed with a draft?
And honestly, I do think we got outplayed watching that, it felt like P-Vision were just better,
but I do think, like Avery mentioned in that post game, he said, just a more chaotic draft,
that's harder to read so that you can make more unexpected plays because if
you're playing on a private or cool down that's easy to read right so I don't
think that the draft was a huge problem with the exception of the last pek
terror blade but something that makes fights weird like a puck would have been
better for copy than the Beastmaster. I also think Dark Lord didn't really have
the presence but we did have presence of the Dark Lord she were on the other side
from Shadowfiend because he dealt only 8000 damage and very very difficult
like game for him because he doesn't have again like in theory it works it's
like a good matchup for him if he gets off to a good start but he got pushed
out of the lane relatively early on and kind of never recovered okay well in
case you hear some noises coming from the back that is a different stage we are
gonna check out what all that all those drums are about because Milo is just
right there on the Kadeya city stage
A little moment for our chicken as you hear here over on the BR stage, the Battle Royale
stage, all the energy that's happening because we're seeing free fire happening just behind
us and all the action through though.
My good friend Bernie is here with me to tell me what's been going on because this is day
two of free fire, the Esports World Cup.
Exactly, this is day two of the group stage right now.
So today is the day that a few teams get sent home.
If you're in the bottom two from your group after today, you have been eliminated from
the competition. Our crusher is tasty, it's grinding up those keys, it's enormous because
we have to cross so many at the same time.
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Getting ready for a second game between P-Vision and Runeaters here on the stage for the quarter
finals here with Dota 2 at the eSports World Cup.
We're live from Paris and Game 1 of this series was a little bit lackluster, a little bit
one-sided.
A lot of it came, or part of it came down to play, part of it came down to the ending
of the draft.
keep a close eye on that and see if there's different solutions found this time around
by Rooneaters who are with their backs against the rope.
Because one more loss here will eliminate them from the competition.
Here we have P-Vision on the radiant side, Rooneaters on the dire side with first pick
go in the way of Rooneaters and a little bit of a changeup with the bands as we see P-Vision.
They don't go for their traditional Haver second pick bands, no they stick with what
has been working for Rune Eaters with that Ember Spirit ban, Hoot Wink and Undying even
removed from the pool, leaving a lot of the usual suspects and I'm not even going to name
them all because there's so many.
Yeah, we can start with naming some, Shiver.
We can say, you know, Trian Protector, Hero that looked pretty much amazing in every single
game, Drawranger still left the pool, so it's Shadow Fiend, and even Darkseer, so they get
to choose in which direction they want to be going.
leaders so far we've seen like a good amount of Shadowfiend openings coming out from them.
We saw Pock a couple of times. We saw this Emberspirit as well. Yeah Emberspirit is banned
but let's see if they're going to be switching things around because so far for them like
these things have been working out mostly so I'd like to see them you know maybe just
speed things up a little bit more. It's just going to be a Trion Protector. A lot of the
sometimes you don't get the chance to pick this hero because he is most of the time banned
in the first phase, the hero that again has a little bit of global presence, a little
bit of a global save, you've seen how effective it can be in the previous game, so I want
to see what the response from P-Vision is going to be.
I mean, P-Vision haven't had the chance to get their Urse Spear in Wild, it's like so
good for them as a flex, they could opt to do that here, they could also just opt to counter
the trade with a Dispel hero like Enchantress or a Largo.
just go back for the Shadowfiend if they wanted to. This is also the moment where Trine Protector
is mostly strong with other ranged carries and with Draw and Shadowfiend still in. You have the
option to pick one and ban the other if you wanted to, or leave both in also an option,
but they still go for their Earth Spirit. Yeah, I'd be surprised if they passed the chance over
to get it. It just looked so strong on them. Now Darkseer becomes a question when you have Earth
because this is the enabling off lane for the position for Earth Spirit and if you
don't get it then you can just put it on no one who looks comfortable on it
regardless of the matchup. Yeah he kind of started this trend from the mid lane
during the TI qualifiers they haven't really been contested on side of the
vision in the TI qualifiers but everybody after he banged it out for the
first time it looked like the OP hero it looked like the hero we're gonna be
seeing quite a lot more because almost like insane good scaling, insanely good
laning phase as well and also rotation like it makes your side lane so much
stronger because this year can rotate like you always have something to kill
some of these more like meta heroes like it's good against all of the spirits
it's good against parking one of the reasons actually why park doesn't have
that good of a win rate now I'd be really surprised if they don't ban darks here
on radiators because the pick out of phase goes to pvision right you are
I mean, also if they don't get the Darkseer for themselves or Bannet, then SF becomes a much more comfortable pick for the team that took Darkseer for itself.
Because you're not afraid of the counter pick.
Yeah, there must be something other than Darkseer that they're considering to ban in this moment.
Which other heroes come to mind that might be contesting their ban spot?
I don't think they're going to be contesting Shadowfiend or Drawranger because they want
to be okay.
They're going to remove one and I assume they're going to be looking to potentially get one
for themselves.
They get the pick and choose.
Like we are in a range meta.
We saw like even Karylina being viable.
We saw a good amount of clings as well.
I think this hero is also highly underrated considering the performances that the hero
did have.
Like it makes him super strong.
not going to be beating that plane because of the turnaround potential to stick the fairy
fires, living armor. This time around also, I think Trimprevector is going to be having
a much better time. We've seen good amount of Vargos as a response to it. This time around
it is banned.
Yeah, I mean, they're still always Enchantress. I think Enchantress is a hero that, you know,
if Puppy's dropped in for a team, it's always on his mind. That's one of his favorite heroes
and she functions very well against any kind of need for a disarmament. But Kofi's heroes
in Ember and Puck get taken out. Dark Lord's Timey also gets taken out. I think that Puck
would have been great for Moon Eaters, but they prioritized the Tree and Protector first.
The Darkseer does come out like we mentioned, and honestly, I think it's a mistake.
But maybe Moon Eaters are looking to take an Enchantress or something of their own?
I don't know if I'd be okay with them running like, Ench, Tree and Protector.
This is the hero that I got really surprised how strong the hero can be.
I said earlier that this can be played from the carry roll as well.
We saw GPK literally not dying.
Yesterday on the hero he played it from the mid lane, did Optigo for the carry build.
It was pretty much the only two times they've seen Lina from the mid lane go for this type
of a build where you're scaling with the four staff slash pike, PKB, Satanic.
But again, this is also a Eastern European team, a team that a lot of the times you would
see them fall back to carry Lina in situations like this.
Yeah, because against Earth Spirit, Lina does quite well, right? If they do put it in mid.
Yeah, if this is also a mid-matchup, Lina does extremely well, you're not going to be winning that matchup.
But I feel like throughout the game, Earth Spirit is very good against Lina.
Okay.
And if it's a support Earth Spirit, then you happily play carry Lina.
Because carry Lina versus Darkseer is rough for the Darkseer.
Lacoste, I just saw you cringe.
Yeah, I mean, the reason why also Earth Spirit is very good against some of these matchups
especially Rubik, why the hero doesn't have the greatest win rate, why the hero has been kind of falling off, is we are in the Earth Spirit meta.
And P'Kir'Naut's gonna be stealing his spells. It's not like anything great that you can steal against the Darkshadow as well.
It's really not that great. And I see these heroes inside of P-Vision. It's a lot of setup. It's a lot of ways to disengage the fight.
and they are going to pick Nature's Prophet on top of that as well, making sure that the day can...
I think this Nature's Prophet is also a preemptive pick against the Carolina that could come out because NP in general,
like we've seen this as a response from the carrier from the mineral against all of these range turrets.
It also keeps their cards close to their chest because they can play this as a support Nature's Prophet as well.
So your mid between Earth Spirit and Nature's Prophet is not revealed at all for the entirety of the draft.
which is cool but I do think Lena is a great pick in that sense that it can
follow around their spirit wherever it goes. Chiro from Vici also played carry
Lena yesterday and honestly it's looking very strong we've seen a variety of
builds with pure right-click but yesterday he opted to do maelstrom into
agonim scepter and he was just in every single fight as a carry Lena.
Well Roonators need to reveal something at this point with this this pick again
And you see teams taking a little bit of extra time for this pick in particular.
It could be a good Doom game if they want to go death crowd. It's a little greedy, I would say, especially with the supports.
I'm also a little worried. I would say Axe could be also okay-ish.
But then again, you're playing against Viber and this hero kind of nullifies what you want to do.
It's a hero that can also punish you in the lane in a sense where you can be rotating.
So they're going to go with something that's going to amplify the damage of the Lina,
which I really like, a hero that can just beat a frontline.
We saw them lacking this type of a hero in the previous game.
They really didn't have the blink and miss cheater up until a point where Beastmaster can be the one.
But I think they are fixing some of the issues.
But yeah, Lina been very impressed by the hero.
I feel like me and Seb, we saw it a couple of times.
We really didn't believe for the first two times,
but it does so much better than you would expect it to be.
and now the hero just feels very, very good.
Why would you go for Slardar over a hero like Centaur?
I think Slardar is actually the mid laner in this scenario.
Or I mean, it will be flexed if that Lena mid looks better,
but I think the Lena carry looks quite strong against Darkseer.
But CJ has shown us that mid Slardar can pop off entirely and enable his carry,
and it would be a good pick if Earth Spirit gets played from that mid lane
because they're laning against Lena.
You may want to think, okay, let's just get a stronger support for 9-Claw so that we can lane against TreantLena.
In that case, Slardar counterpicks this Earth Spirit and it is very difficult lane.
Yeah, and also after seeing the Queen of Pain ban, I would say that this probably wants to be Slardar mid
because this is one of the matchups that you don't want to be playing against.
And although they have a good amount of control, like Queen of Pain, we haven't seen too much of a hero.
It could be very good for this game.
I do think that runeaters need some kind of dispel them, because the rubric isn't really
offering you that much, like you do have this nice curse that you can potentially steal,
but unless you buy first-order meals, you're still going to suffer versus Darkseer's surge
in his ion shell.
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So maybe that's along the lines of what they're talking about, they prioritize King's ability
you to jump on this, Lina.
Do we feel that they on both sides properly dealt with each other's first pick?
Is this Dream Protector going to be the absolute minus that gets him first face banned most of the time?
Yeah, the heroes on their side are relatively tanky.
They have quite a lot of saves, like especially in the mid-game with Rubik, with the shard, the cookies as well.
Lina deceptively tanky as the hero, throw in Living Armor on top of that.
It could be very tricky to kill her like their damage is also not explosive damage by any means on p vision
This is a bit more like damage over time once magnetize kicks in with the iron shells on top of that
Throwing thunder it needs to collect multiple connect multiple times a couple of red plates from nature's profit
So yeah, but of a slower damage type of a lineup from p vision
But yeah, I feel like rune eaters definitely improved their lineup from the previous game
And I would give them like even higher chances to potentially win this one
Yeah, they're dropped in this game too looks really strong and that safe lane looks strong the issue with last game was that
They're safely just died way too many times and that give p vision too easy of an early mid game
But if they can actually win with their Lena treat lane, which you should win picking those heroes
It's gonna look like a different game
So I'm just looking towards that like is Dark Lord actually gonna be a hero in this game too because if he can be
He's gonna pack such a big punch with this Lardar mid combination
Yeah, because one of the things that went wrong for them last time is that night class had the freedom to move
Which brings me to the question when there's a dark sea or earth spirit lane which there will be on the side of pVision
Even if that lane is not going well dark seer can still get stuff out of the lane while night class on this earth
Spear rotates, right? So absolutely like these still do that. Yeah, we've seen dark seer. Just like they don't feel like laning
They go to jungle straight away. They're still getting the CS as well. They can creep skip
manipulate the creep wave as well. This lane can always do something,
Twin Gate rotation, TP rotation with the Iron Shell on Earthspirit, so you always
have some kind of a play. Always a play possible when you have Earthspirit on
your team. Going into this game number two, assuming that that safe lane indeed
goes better, is the team, blue leaders, going to be able to play through copy the
way that you want them to, I think. I think so because the thing about
Slardar Minde is that he's constantly running at you, jumping at you and splitting up sparrows with Beastmaster.
It's like, you know the Primal War cooldown, you can track it, you can counter initiate.
But the counter initiation from the Dawn, that was the problem in game one.
It's not the same in this game too. Sure, there is a Wyvern, but as a Slardar,
you can run in and out, disengage, pick your battles, so much more freedom for copy.
A lot more freedom for sure, but they do have the Nature's Prophet also on the side of P-Vision.
So while it's not a Dawnbreaker, there is always chance and potential for the plus one.
That could be something that might be causing some troubles for Roon Eaters
But we're gonna find out will pVision be in those Sunday finals against Yandex or will Roon Eaters force out a game 3
To this one. We'll find out what happened as pG
PVision and game 1 showed us why they're one of the most feared teams here at EWC
But now in game 2 it's time for Roon Eaters to show how they got here in the playoffs in the first place
So we're gonna start off with early smoke that just might need a bit of action
It'll net a kill not a hero kill, but a courier kill
They get the little freebie here a deep ward as well
We can still use this ward to contest runes some possibility for further action here
I think the draft looks a lot more solid this time around
They got the local down initiator that I wanted out of that mid lane
It's gonna give them some extra physical scale on top of it. I'm a huge lean of believer you are
Uh, could absolutely carry this game, could be an obnoxious hero for them to deal with, with the slaughter and on top of all that long range physical burst.
I could see it, I could see this game working out a lot better, not as one dimensional, have a lot more scourge power.
Still tall task ahead.
Nowhere to go here. Somehow that smoke play from Root Eaters, ends up netting, uh, first blood for Peavis and it's not even like they're gonna get the bounty rune advantage or anything, it's still gonna be a 2-2 split.
split. I will say P vision like one of the big problems from game one was the
dawn breaker really broke the way that Runeeners wants to be able to play the
game. Do you feel like Nature's Prophet Kerry is able to do that kind of
similarly? Another global hero that's just gonna be able to
kind of AFK, play the map, push in lanes while still being able to join in on
these fights. It's not only the fear it's gonna do, it's the Darkseer too. Like you have the
double sideline go-shot that it can absolutely cause problems around the map. I view this draft as
I think Runeaters are gonna have a better chance to win this game for sure. However, I also think
there's a higher chance they get run over even harder if the game starts to go wrong. Oh, okay.
Just because I think this P-Vision lineup can really take some small openings and just completely run away with it.
Like, if you start bleeding out some bad deaths in the lanes, this Furion gets a faster out of the nature, he's compounding the advantage,
he can just TP on this Lena. Lena is food in this game for a while, especially with the natural gap-close between the pango, the air-spirit, and the Furion.
It's a lot with Lena to deal with. You need two or three items before you're able to sit there and kind of fight back or deal with it in any capacity.
So I'm a little worried that this game could snowball a lot faster than game one, however I do like their draft a lot better, so...
As long as they can make the lanes work and not give up too many bad pick-offs or something like that, play through the starter, then copy cookie...
A force-free reckon within this game, they pick the pango into that starter, will give him a nice lane phase here.
Like, uh, earlier we saw him choose not to chase 9-class, good neutral creep tonight at least, but...
Not bad.
Yeah, he, uh, I thought he was knowingly going like,
okay, I can't chase after them because it's a double Ion shell melee hero combo that I just can't really beat.
And I don't want to just give away kills.
And then he still walked into it anyway, trying to stop these Poles and Enclasses up to.
Fortunately, he doesn't give away that much thanks to the neutral creeps, but...
I wonder if the Ion Shells got purged by the Satter, so a little value there too.
Making a quick kink on the mid.
I can feel the heat in this one from that roaming Earthspear.
It didn't hit the river room and it's kind of fine and you will, so...
It's chilling. It's got a lot of resources in the bank. You have the living armor as well.
The living armor is going to be really nice in this game. Just trying to prevent some of those cheeky kills from the roaming Earthspear from coming out.
And you should guarantee you're leading a free farm. So that's going to be a massive difference as the panel said.
This is not going to be a Dark Lord that got completely bamboozled into the jungle early on.
Yeah, should have a lot more to play with.
Still worried about some of the rotations onto this hero?
But if you can avoid some of those and get up to fast, you know,
boots of travel, if you're gonna go the maelstrom climb,
I think it's an okay item on this hero.
Not as good as the used team, but totally fine now into that axe,
then you're joining fights in your powerhouse.
What about the mobility that's gonna be a problem getting on top of this, Lina?
What about the little saints here that Runeaters have?
They have a tree protector, living armor, overgrowth, that helps.
You've got Cookie, you've got Telekinesis, if you get the Shard on Enki, which I think could be kind of big.
Do you think that will be enough for you to be able to disengage from Key Vision to save the Lena,
or are these heroes just too overwhelming in their mobility?
Call me taking the man fight.
I think you can reset the position a little, but I don't think you can ever disengage fully from the squad.
If they're going to chase you now, they haven't been chased out.
That's what Earthstreet always gets used to.
You have to be ready to stay on your ground at some point in this game.
And I'd argue getting to that point is more valuable than bringing the saves online
Doesn't that usually mean the initiation is more important for you?
I know you like you can't let them just always be initiating on you. I agree. You don't have a full
And that's why I want to see them play through coffee on this mid lane. He had a very good game one
Beast is just not a low cool down initiator and get to play for a really expensive item that helm the slaughter is gonna
Be a lot faster here and the slaughter can do some serious work in this game
He gets no one
I'll manage to get Enki inside of the Sprout. He's got a lot of sin. Didn't have to pop it.
Yeah, I think he could have lived there, but maybe he decided it's not worth to just limp along.
Especially with Malakinda being low. Somebody needs to go back and get a fresh round of items for everybody.
Fair way of looking at it. Stop first blood.
Yeah, giving up that fake old injection as Ike is just battling for these wave pulls.
I think there was best to be annoying at least, give some extra information.
The Darkseer is just juggling straight up.
They kind of abandoned playing this lane heads up, which I think is fair.
It's an absolutely fine way to play against Lena Treant, not the easiest lane to contest
for anybody.
Yeah, we've seen that the worst thing for Darkseers is when they try too much to actually
stay in lane.
Right?
I'm thinking about that Darkseer versus SF.
Triple raise kill, then go back to it, dies again, right?
If you're not going to test the lane, then play this way.
Especially if you can get to at least level 3.
Level 2 Ion Shell clears through these camps a lot faster.
Going from 30 to 50 damage, that's quite the jump.
They were just having themselves, can absolutely find early game.
Top of that CS chart, he's got his helm done, he's already level 4.
The wait pulls have done their job and P vision play really well around this hero.
There's a reason they took it early in that draft.
Notice has been superb on it,
and it combos really well with a lot of their force of two,
so it's gonna be a powerhouse in a team fight.
I can't get out here.
Right on the edge.
They are gonna turn around and go for Satanic.
Now the Earth Spirit's gonna show himself,
and they do have the Cold Embrace.
They're all focused on Satanic.
The Cold Embrace has made things linger so long
that Runeater's going to lose this fight.
They get the kill, but it's a 2 for 1, especially with the Ion Shell that was put on 9 class before he TP'd in.
That adds a lot of damage, and now he gets the role in the Ekkoe. They're gonna go for the third kill here.
9 class is gonna die for it, so Ekkoe actually picks up a double, but ultimately a 2 for 3.
Nobody in lane anymore can secure this second Lotus.
And all of a sudden?
Your Wyvern is almost level 5.
Yeah, a benefit of all that XP.
Nice here to get some extra levels on. High level than its carry Furion.
Satanic probably not happy about that, but happy to make the trade for the team overall.
Does leave this Lena completely alone top. If you're going to put pressure into the
Sapphire Lena, I think Runeaters are totally fine with trading Hero Sapphire. Like this is a good
lane to attack. You're attacking the Furion, which means the Furion can't turn himself into a
numbers advantage in the fight elsewhere on the map. Right, and you're kind of fighting around a
of Sapphire, a hero that shouldn't like to fight early on anyway. Meanwhile, the Lina's
getting solo xp, he's pulling ahead of the fearon. These are kind of all the things you
want. So I do like the point of attack there for Runeer, so I think that's a fine lane to
go into. This is a much more difficult part of the map to attack.
This kill would be so, so sweet if they could get IntelliQ, he needs this tossback into
coffee, manage to get off the shield crash though, and that makes an empty difference.
A little bit more slowdown on Ike, and coffee is now outnumbered. Dark Lord's gonna come
and try and help with good a play but no one has already retreated and coffee is
gonna end up dying to these Ion shells once again the Ion shells are doing some
work here Dark Lord can still clean up a little bit in fact he's gonna clean up
maybe a lot of it here jump back in with the shield crash that was a crazy
move it's because Satanic said he was gonna join in on this fight it's so
long it does managed to stop the TP away from Dark Lord we should be top after
the tree it went there yeah that is rough I'm not sure what it made it out
Anyway, that damage was a lot with all the tree and saying him but unfortunate long TP after a great team fight for the Lena
Ultimately go down. Oh, it's gonna try and get there. Oh and notice didn't he didn't go straight to the shrine
So he thought you know, I'm just gonna farm up these neutrals clear them out
So it responds in eight minutes and then I'll take the shrine
Well, I'm does manage to take that away from you at least double wisdom shrine advantage
If the leader were here a little faster sprites go with a lot better
You missed a lot of time to put damage in on to the amps and that's an arcane run starter
Like coffee is gonna get a lot of amps off here is gonna get multiple crushes
The pain go almost burned out it as well from the slow burn
That would have made a big difference these little things adding up
So see the power of the dark for that using how to items in scheme
But just the power of the amp damage
When the amplification of the starter is gonna give him a lot more firepower to work with
Yeah, you have to be about two and a half seconds, so if it was TP back to base, I think he still dies.
Yep.
I'll have to make the long walk.
He works towards that maelstrom.
Still scouting these heroes top.
They kicked the heroes out of bottom, so...
Somewhere Satanic goes here.
I don't think he really wants to go back this bottom lane.
It's a little spooky being down there.
Especially against Napier, old dude that just got used.
Okay, long notice.
And no need for an LSA, doesn't have it, just pure damage.
He's enough to burst down notice really easily, need more to roll into mid lane.
Going after coffee, but coffee.
You already saw this coming, but with the Sprint, he is way too hard to track down.
Another big kill on this, Dartsier slowing down that helm progression.
Always nice to see.
Shadow didn't notice, though, before he died, he got up the wall.
And he has been able to keep the Dreequave out of the tower, so he doesn't miss too much farm off of that death.
Official for him.
How many times are you gonna go after a copy like this?
They are really putting pressure into the Slaardar.
They do not want him having free reign on this map right now.
And for good reason.
And the supports are not gonna go to the Slaardar on the side of Rune-eaters, which means they're times the charm!
4P vision!
Brutal for him, you're gonna steal a double bounty rune here as well.
Free resources for no one.
Which means this, this play on the other side,
I feel like it's relatively telegrafting.
He needs to work out for rune-eaters, and they're just there,
uh, half-second too late to catch the Tane.
Little timing to making all the difference in this game.
Should be able to trade towers here, but you wanted that Furion kill.
It's, especially if the Taneck went back into this lane bottom,
that he had the TP out of.
That's a move you wanna punish.
I think we're actually coming for this, the Rolling Thunder. He wants to stop.
Okay.
Make a play for this tower, but if Dark Lord does a good job dodging the Rolling Thunder, then...
That's a pretty big wasted ultimate.
Echie, steal in the Arctic Burn.
Won't be able to fly off the map or anything.
This is raining in, actually. Maybe to call us dies?
Is it outside of the Ranger? They're not gonna be able to get the damage on them, they do.
Call the brace.
He's knocking out Keele, the magic damage burst that comes from the Sapphire when those globs land.
It's a can of back in here, defending his tower, probably ended up denying it.
But this fear hasn't got to exist in this bottom lane for a long time.
Without the slaughter ever getting out there.
That is a dead, uh, helmet dumb creep. Dark Lord just Lakuna-bladed instantly.
Why not?
He also didn't get the last hit.
Okay, well that's a little sad.
Yeah.
Showed it to his boss though.
Yeah, he did, he did.
I suppose Farp's here on this game.
You have to be careful with his lean-up.
I think I've been warning people about it for a while now, boy.
This hero is an insane lakien carry now.
Ike is not having fun with these Ion Shells.
Nope, it's a rough matchup.
I feel like Peavision are showing the best combination of Darkseer from ADT.
I feel like too often you don't actually get to utilize these Ion Shell TP plays.
But, Night Class...
He's making it look really good here, and has secured them a 2000 net worth lead at 12 minutes.
With some of these towers doomed to fall soon, this mid tower is healthy for now,
but P-Vision owned plenty of the area, still chipping away at it.
Diffuse off for the pango.
Iron Shelfs can go through all these melee heroes, and the fearant can connect.
Very solid early game team fighting that's very efficient around the map.
They're even going to get the haste rune at the 12 minute mark.
One copy would have liked to pick up here with this Plague Dagger, but
No, we unlucky in his endeavors. This is where you want to get the Sardar more involved in the game
You have bots on the snapfire. You have a leaner that can connect to the fight as his bots are also done
Yes, so you have two boots travel cores that can play off of the Sardar going in and starting fights
You want to get it cooking a little bit
Or if you can't find the fight at least force P vision off the waves like they should be scared to show on some of these waves
Time to inflict some terror.
Three men smoke up forum runeaters.
Kind of showed that they're a threat, otherwise P-Visions is going to be outfarmed them on the map.
It does look like P-Vision made a read of the situation, but it'll become more and more obvious as this mid-wave pushes all the way into the tier two.
In fact, copy is already giving up on this play.
He's going to go back, show on the mid-wave, and P-Vision.
They're the ones who are going to make the move here.
Quick low kill on the tree protector.
It does mean that Dark Lord has a chance to get out here unless somebody hits him.
Ooh, that was close.
Nightcloth is actually kind of close on the rolling boulder.
There could have been a vacuum.
Just the tree though.
Not the worst smoke break.
That was a haste to the bottle for the pango.
A lot of time wasted for these four heroes top and you get your carry out.
You'll take that straight into an ancient stack as well.
Yeah, about 13 minutes, once again, carries. Just started abandoning a safe lane area to play much safer areas in the center part of the map.
I still want to see a little more action for this starter, though. I think it's been a very quiet game for coffee.
It has.
He got the treatment in the lane phase, he got this blink, but unable to really get any of the power runes or any sort of fight going his way.
See, maybe he can get the 14 minute power rune here.
He's vision's swarming all over it.
It is a damn damage problem.
Uh oh, copy's not sure.
Can I take it? Can I take it? Will I die if I go and take it?
Blinks away at the first sight danger.
Ecky! Swatch buckle down to low ground, but there's no one on the other side.
Mr. TP way, they have a stun, and that is Winner's Curse.
Somebody's gotta pay the price for that rune.
Seems to be fate.
Nice rune to stag, though.
a lot more single target first damage threat on the map right now so if they're not able to make
action happen with the slaughter like how bad is this because it does seem like heron eaters are
just kind of chilling for farm right now it's not that bad you have double boots of travel you have
a lot of map presence right now that you can play a little greedy with like you're not going to fall
too far behind this is a fury on dark seer lineup so they're always playing out farm you a little bit
Just with the jungle efficiency with your app and HR across the map, however, I think
you're confident in your Lena Sauror scale here for a long time.
We will come down to late game teamfight execution.
The Wyvern could be a big factor.
You can land some big curses.
We'll absolutely guesstimate the fight, same with the big vacuums, right?
If you can vacuum three or four heroes in this game into some pango spells, first spear
spells on top, it'll be over.
BKBs will be a big deal for Runeaters in this game.
You're gonna want them on multiple cores for sure, and you will have a very nice timing
with that.
Which is where, like, they... at least Runeaters will still have effectiveness against the
BKBs, with overgrowth, with being able to have bash from Slardar.
For sure.
They're not too worried here.
Alright, well there's the shard.
another timing for the slaughter that he usually wants to play through. Blink
Crush is all the more deadly if you just get an instant corrosive haze on these
heroes. You also almost have level 12 on Malak. Oh he still wants his blink
dagger. They lose another power. Look has not been on coffee side this game. So
we can take a fight here. Amp the image has about 10 seconds left. Both sides
had this in here but one side is smoked up they're gonna be able to jump on a
copy copy put in the corner here but he is super fast in the river might still
have a chance to run away get some distance you know what most of the
rolling thunder is gonna be out here to look to go back in yeah definitely
lots of big spells out they're just on the run no interest in re-initiating
it feel like they're playing a bit too scared here it's rolling out of here now
there are some small openings in this game to potentially take advantage of
it's not easy. Even if it's not like the top team. Forcing a teamfight just taking some of that map area away, right?
For sure. You could play aggressively here, like you could be swarming into Pete Visions jungle right now, trying to get a deep ward out or look for that pick-off wall.
The big ults are down, you assume they're gonna either split up or play scare. And again, that just says to me that, well, Ekky is gonna be magnetized, TP away,
And down side of these low levels, rolling boulder, you get one stun and that's all you're going to get.
Copy, though, it does get jumped on the other side and C.Tanak is able to show up and collect on the bounty there.
He just has no game on the Sardar.
No, I'll do it for a minute, three or four.
Can't show on the map, can't get the fight going.
It's kind of a rough time for him.
I mean, he's probably the worst farming hero of all six cores in the game, right?
Yes.
Yes?
AFK hitting neutral is like every other core beats him out on that.
So you want, you like, part of your game escalating is getting kills.
He wants more action, for sure.
You have Axel and Alina now.
Can join the fight.
Took the magic resist axe, plus the damage.
So this is the carry Alina challenge tree.
We'll scale up pretty nicely here.
Great.
Game for the magic resist, actually.
Almost have that flint tag around the mouth.
So there is another playmaking tool.
I mean, pieces are coming together for runeers.
I think we both have wanted them to be a little bit more active, searching for kills, but
if they don't do with this round of items, then I don't know what to say.
It would imply they just have an entirely different idea about the game.
Of course they're just getting sky-filled across the map.
And there's some respect you put for P-Vision how disciplined they are and not giving to any openings to exploit
Very good at de-warding very good at controlling the vision
They get scanned on the bottom gate as we mean Thursday do we have everybody down here a spot dark lord
They hit him on the wall
They chase after him, but they already caught to call us and Lena's not gonna die easy
You've already pointed out how tanky this hero can be especially against magic damage
snow hole, but Malik is a whole lot squishier, got burstin' down there.
Nice overgrowth to catch the surging wave, Darkseer, it is still Runeaters winning this
fight off of a better initiation from Runeaters and a failed initiation on that leaner.
You have to respect how tight this lean is, especially in the flamethrower.
It's only Satanic that's really gonna threaten him in the middle of the teamfight, particularly
if the overgrowth and the tree and armor are up.
These are a living armor on this guy. He just becomes even more beastly.
Not a bad teamfight at all. Equalize this game a little bit. Give you a chance to do that tormentor with your nice Sardar line up here too.
Yep, that'd be pretty juicy.
Ooh. Ward spotting the placement there from the Decaus. A little unfortunate. You didn't see it there.
Which means Dark Lord knows this area is boarded.
He'll come back to D-word at some point. He actually still gets caught though. Not respecting.
He's still tanky.
He can do. He's gonna fly over the trees here, try and stay out of sight.
Pulled by the ribble!
Oh, what a curse.
There's a new curse!
I think he might have gotten out.
I think so too.
But Ekky with the Stolen Jew Magnetic Grip, he wants to show off.
Something bad on you.
He's trying to hunt him down. It doesn't work.
and now maybe copy is the one to die here Malik he grabs a shield or oh no this
this gets just snowball so badly mouse gonna die as well this is what you were
talking about where these go bad for ruinators it's gonna go back really
quickly just can't afford to give up these bad kills the map's gonna collapse
so fast this is what happens with the Earthspear lineups the the chase down
potential the map mobility especially with fear and in darks here at the same
time you're gonna get all the lanes and you're gonna farm so much gold one bad
That teamfight in this game is going to be 6-7-8k at work, going P-Vision's way, and probably an objective on top of that.
That was so...
That was max range.
It really was.
And now, 22 kills in 21 minutes for P-Vision.
This kind of teamfight just breaks things open entirely, that means they're going to begin.
massive net worth lead they're going to be around of items ahead they're going
to get Roshan a satanic for or excuse me an Aegis for satanic not a satanic for
Aegis that would be cool it would be cool and we'll also have a BKB very soon so
he could be hyper aggressive he can teleport wherever he wants also might
stifle this Runeater's move right now they're gonna run right into him
normally a great target oh god that might not be the worst honestly that he
TP'd out on them because I think you want this smoke to land on the rest of the team if you can yeah, no doubt
The smokers gonna break on to call us. He probably knows the train protectors here
He's already flicking away. They try and get make a wrong thunder initiation still hit coffee all the train protectors in trouble
So it's up. No chance for no growth which means these kisses are a lot worse for wear here
Dark Lord doesn't know where to run to here. He doesn't have the flame cloak
So he can't just fly off the cliff. He's kind of stuck battling it out hoping for an aegis kill
That's it back-to-back team fights that he vision just work rune eaters with ease
Is where this game can snowball faster than game one because you're just gonna devour the map
I mean look at over a perfect block. Oh, it's rampage
Rampage across the map for satanic too fast too easy. He is just shredding everybody now
You give him an inch he takes a mile
The threat's supposed to be the slaughter Alina and maybe an overgrowth landing on him without a dispell item.
Now he has BKB available, still has his Aegis for 3 minutes, 13 and 1 for the young gun here as he is just running over this game.
Maybe you didn't want to TP him out of that team.
Maybe you can kill him twice while the team's trying to salvage the situation because these types of fights are just not going to work out for you.
You don't have the same AoE control, you don't have the same presence with...
Especially without a BKB on copy, you just can't enter the same plate.
It feels like to me, Runeaters, they're like...
They're behind like they were in Game 1, and they're now trying to wrap the map,
but they can't do that against an Aches Prophet.
It's possible.
The lanes go in too quickly, between the Darkseer, the Prophet, even Pangolier,
and then Earth Spirit's hunting you.
The appearance like, ah, I missed that kill, oh well.
And then he thought about teeping into the mid tier two.
His team fights the train protector.
I'll say Tana goes on the rubic of the top lane,
and does manage to kill him in the mid lane.
Just wrap, crashing down on a rubic's head.
Map control disappeared so fast.
Hey, these heroes need to stop just showing.
Malik, he just rushes down the mid lane to kill the wave,
and will make a successful TP.
Space created.
A little bit, a little bit of space.
So you can't just throw any of the TP on this lane at the top with the ward sitting in that jungle,
although I don't think this ward actually sees anything.
Pretty awkward.
To call us above the early gem pickup, when you're up like this,
the only play that Rune Theater's has is to be able to fuse information
to get on the map,
potentially get picked off, especially with the way that P-Vision is playing right now,
which is basically attacking all three lanes at once.
Look at this TP top.
Knows exactly where Dark Lord is.
Well, it's not again, but that's of course an enemy carrying another piece of 24 minutes.
You're not sad about it by any means.
Not at all.
An instant ping bottom.
The second anybody from Runeater shows on a wave, they are being attacked.
They're gonna send the mad dog in nine class bottom to try and chase him down here.
All he has to do is land one stun, that's probably enough for Satanic to complete his TP.
Ooh, good attempt.
Try to blind-catch them on the gate.
Malek has already made his way through, but of course they know he went through the gate,
which is where Satanic is there to welcome Malek.
Hello?
Trapped him again.
He has had his number.
Just cannot get the lanes out.
This Aegis...
It all started...
That one death on Alina that snowballed, has turned into an 18k gold lead in like five minutes.
Tau top team does it right here, they should never look back.
Double wards up here, they tried to find it, they dropped one century found...
...Either of the wards!
We'll say this is the weirdest ward, I feel like I've ever seen...
Yeah, this one is a fucking...
...Nust vision.
I think it got placed when they were making that teamfight and the trees were cut.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Well, it's not.
Precisely, too heavily.
That's fair, that's fair.
Full Silver Edge done as the Lena finishes Hurricane Pike, so the Furion is definitely
head by a little bit here. The entire item. You're still looking for the copy PKB man.
I mean, he's still low for a harpoon to get out of these sprouts. They're going high ground
while this is happening. No carry, no problem.
The funny part is runeaters don't really have a choice in the matter, like it does
all the kick out, not even saving your base against this Blink Aetherlands Urspir, he
already has all of that, you get sent far.
when they try and pull the trigger on actually going high ground in this game.
Option is definitely very available.
20k gold, just like that.
Took him about 5 minutes.
What is it?
The perma shovel.
What is that shovel doing?
That is a... it's the neutral item, right?
But the tree got cut down while it was...
How do I assume it is?
So now it's shoveling for eternity trying to dig up some hidden treasure you're gonna need it in this game
Dig away out of this map. Hey guys, I found 20,000 coal
If you found let's say 10,000
You even between your two carries what would you give runeaters chance?
Up with this game if they had 10,000 more gold than they have right now
Is it all on one hero or is it like spread out let's say it's split among the three cores it goes up 10%
increase now
Kick back interrolling Thunder. Oh, look at that. That's really I mean when you're able to do fun stuff like this
Show off while you're owning the map. He finished his BKB though
He did he buys out. They're gonna need it to call us looking to make the initiation. There's the vacuum
Where's the curse?
Ah, caught him on the end!
And he kicked Nalina in off of that play,
pushed him to the other side of the curse,
he goes for a TP up, but he got the fast!
It's already done.
It's the LSA, kisses a Rating in on these heroes,
but they're so tanky, they're just not
able to do enough damage to hit him with the overgrowth.
Darkler's trying to kill something here.
Nightclaw still survives long enough to get the roll in.
He hits Nalina, then dies to the projectile following him.
The execution was here today for P-Vision.
Honestly, this Earth Spirit just looks terrifying
in a lot of these teams' hands.
It's a flex hero.
If you can compensate for his kind of weak early game,
he seems like the strongest support in the mid-late.
Like what he does just breaks the game completely in,
with the chase down, the map control,
the team fighting, the displacement,
the save with the grip now that's guaranteed.
You have to have a game plan for this hero
in the team fights, and it's very hard
to game plan against him.
Which is where nine class who's so experienced at pulling those waves combined with Darkseer off lane, right?
It's like you're kind of guaranteed you're not gonna win that lane, but you aren't gonna get by with enough.
Exactly. You just need to get enough that you can find that one kill that kind of evens out the game and then you're you're chillin.
Jump in from copy, he gets broken, sprouted, Malak, he jumps on top of Satanic.
They do get a lot of damage on him even with the BKB going off, but there's the Geomagnetic Grip, so he's gonna be pulled away.
And that was the only hero that had taken damage from root eaters the rats can't go in
Oh, Dark Lord saving himself there close call
Those at level 20
One more damage upgrade for him
Just never got a chance to get to those big scaling items before satanic ran away with this game
And I ran away with this series
I'm fine for a few vision. We're only 30 minutes in. Amp damage in the river?
No one. He's going to be a nice little lad. He's going to leave the bottle for Satanic.
Very nice. What a bit player.
Satanic who is once again getting a thousand experience per minute.
A little less impressive on Fury on the SF, but still. Crazy good.
Luxury, Luxury, Luxury, Disperser.
No one, if you needed any more mobility, to assault Delina.
Dark Lord's gonna try and go back for a DKB, and if you don't get that DKB quickly, even
if you get it, then like, are you gonna still have damage?
Oh, got to the balcony, he's just, oh, I got what you wanted in all that key!
You gave it to him.
The couples with the winners' cursed interaction as the repositioning of the stolen geomagnetic grip was terrible.
The first dark lord out in the telekinesis is the Game Ender.
It was exactly as dominant as everybody predicted.
P-Vision vs. Rooneyeders was no contest.
They were favorites for a reason, and they're one of the favorites in this event.
A nice run from Rooneyeders.
I think they surpassed a lot of people's expectations, I don't think they're going to be too sad about this tournament overall.
So you were just trying to get in your place of Dota and went along the way.
They had a strong showing, but Peavision, they're top thoughts forwards.
Yeah, they're just going to slap them down here and say, like, no, no, no, you had a nice run, but we are the real deal here.
There's not going to be any choking, no shenanigans, no board traps, we're going to play our game very solid.
And the second you mess up, they're just taking higher game over.
And the scary thing about this team is, you could say, like, yeah, this matchup is very one-sided,
But we've seen P-Vision do this to other top dogs in this event.
Like, they are capable of doing this to anybody.
That's the scary part about this team.
When they have a carry for Satanic that can both scale and join the early mid-game,
I think that is when this team is the most diabolical.
Like, that's why the Kez, the Furion, this archetype of Hero, it's insane what you can do.
And then you see these kill...
He always ends up with these KDAs that come out of nowhere.
It's like, you click them, it's like 15 minutes and he's like 10-1.
Like, oh, shit, here we go again, you know what?
You just feel that coming, so you can't let them get away with this kind of play style
in this arc of the draft. And we'll see who can challenge it as the team goes deeper in the event
because, man, they look good. The team to challenge it is Yandex, which, again, these are the two
teams coming into this tournament who were the favorites without a doubt. Many of the teams
were talking about how good Yandex's P-Vision have been really consistent. For all of 2026,
they've been pretty good. A lot of first places and looking very good going into the tournament,
Especially so this matchup on Saturday. Yeah, this versus be vision
I feel like that's going to determine the favorites for the grand final 100% if I
like it a slight edge to keep vision
Just because I think their drafts have been long point. I got a coffee is doing some work in a lot of these series
And they're very confident in it
All right. Well, that was a fantastic performance by P vision and well, we saw we saw rampage from C. Tannick
Let's see what he's up to.
Yes, we are here on stage with Saitanik.
It's pre-vision victorious,
and they're going up against Yandex later.
Let's give them a quick shout.
There you go, Saitanik.
Congratulations on the win.
A big moment for you,
but it's no secret that you're seen
as one of the best teams here at the tournament.
Do you think that adds more pressure,
but also seems that people can read you better in games
because there's so much VODs and games out there for you?
There's not much pressure on us, it's only about how we play Guter, but that's it.
And then speaking of that, you're playing Runeaters on the other side that is not as much visible out there for preparation.
How do you prepare for this game and in games like that in general?
I mean, prepare just preparing drafts for us when we play.
You get something to really trust in this.
And speaking of drafts, you know, some people are picking new heroes, you guys are sticking to the same stuff that works.
Why? Any reason to not make any changes?
I mean, I think we have a lot of heroes in pool and we just change them, like, a bit by bit.
It's like same heroes, but we change them in every game.
That's it, I know.
Fair enough, and next up you'll be playing against the Endexer team that we've seen succeed very much here at EWCN in general.
What do you expect out of that game?
I mean, I expect that who wins that series will win tournament.
I think it's going to be like hard for us and for them I think it's going to be hard as well.
So it's going to be fun match and it's cool.
Very much looking forward to it. We're looking at that camera right there.
Say something back to Yandex. Come on, get them ready for the game.
I'll destroy you guys.
Oh, Satanic with the big board speaking of which, you're going to get to destroy your opponent's key.
So let's bring over P vision come on over gentlemen come on over they're discussing the game because they're in their heads
They're already prepping for the next one. That's how it goes, right? Yep
Always on point always ready to go P vision joining us on here because it's time to crush some key
Let's go all together to the back my friends
Except to crush your opponents key, and I know you've gotten used to doing this here
We're gonna open our door. We're gonna reveal our crusher because it's time to get this one done
Root eaters are out and gentlemen
You're going in
All of you all of you coming in
Notice is gonna be the one to crush the key in this one with the rest of team around him
He's got a close POV and all of this
It's really happy out there. Look at it coming in closer.
Notice. Redditor take them out.
P-Vision victorious! Runiters, PR, out!
The crush is done!
Whoa, yeah, whoop!
Oh, yeah, yeah! Let's not break the machine. We got a few more weeks to go.
That's the key, Don, that's Runeator's out,
and that's Pre-Vision, moving on to play Yandex later on.
Congratulations, gentlemen.
That is it from here today.
Let's send it to our panel and break this game down.
Oh, there was still a little piece left
at the crusher, I believe.
That little extra push while it was already crushed.
Definitely very...
This is equivalent to fountain farming in Dota 2.
You're just waiting that one last blow
that they're gonna do, but yeah, he really crushed it.
We pushed it in, the key master almost couldn't get it out.
He couldn't.
We didn't see it at the end.
He's still trying.
I don't see him right now.
There's still being effort put in.
I'm not sure we've got that sorted, but this game also, Rune Eaters was crushed.
And we did see a clear difference, I think, Effie, in terms of play.
Yeah, and honestly, they were just better.
Like, every move they made was better.
The lane usage was better.
Every time Rune Eaters tried to make a play, it felt like Peavision had such a good read
on it.
9-class in particular. I felt like he knew exactly what runeaters were gonna try and he made sure to be there preemptively with his Earth spirit and
Letting it go is a big mistake. You cannot give this team Earth spirit
Yeah, yeah, GG. No re-shever. No runeaters left
unfortunately for them, you know, and the journey ends here, but nothing to be ashamed of I think they should be very proud
instead because they made quite a lot of things happen for them and
And this side of the just show up and eliminate two like really big teams.
This one was not evenly matched the P vision just on another level when it comes down.
And something satanic said in an interview is also, you know, whoever wins the next
series between them and the index is going to be winning the whole thing.
Although spicy was confident there as well.
And yeah, for Rooney, there's two months and two days.
That's how old like young their team is.
So coming top eight here at EWC is an incredible feat.
And this game too is not a representation
of their skill level overall.
They were outclassed.
And a lot of teams do get outclassed by P-Vision.
I think that offlane with the Earth Spirit Darkseer.
Oh my goodness, that is just dirty.
Every lane getting pulled.
And this was supposed to be a lane where also Dark Lord
was able to get a lot out of.
But at the end of the day, he did.
I think this was the lane where, like, he was staying on top of the network, so they played the lane really well.
The one thing I didn't really like that they did have is this double boots of travel on, like, your position 1 and 3.
Like, in theory, it should match the aggression that P-Vision's bringing, but also your teamfight is not as powerful as theirs,
especially if you're playing it from behind. It feels like there's a lot of dead network on the heroes.
This is like 4,000 gold, plus you also have a bling bagger on the snapfire, so that's like 6,000 gold, which isn't really being utilized because P-Vision, they are running at them, they are getting a pick-off, which they can't really respond to, so a lot of the times these bots are not really getting the value out of it.
Yeah, but I just also think they mis-executed a little bit like at some point in that game
It felt like peevish and were the ones making every single move and we didn't really get to see runeaters
Try anything every time I looked at the screen the Lena was being run out in the jungle
or someone was getting teleported on by satanic in
That bottom lane that the lane if that's what you're gonna call it and they just could not react
I think for runeaters
I do believe there was a window of time where had a few of their moves connected and work
then maybe we would have seen a different game.
Like when they ran into that triangle around 7 or 8,
I don't remember when it was exactly, but when they ran in with Treant,
if Lena had connected maybe a few seconds earlier,
we would have seen a different outcome.
But, again, Keevis didn't read every move and they were there.
They were there.
And in a game like this, especially when it is not one-sided,
it's pretty tricky choosing an MVP, I'd say.
But it was done anyway and it was a very clear reason
the end of the day. There's only one player that got themselves a rampage in this game. It's
Titanic. Titanic with the MVP. I think Effie knows the prize. Yeah, I mean, Titanic's so good. Like,
his ASAP in that first game, it must have felt so impressive. Like, you just can't fight into it.
He's so good at laning, but then also joining fights, but then also farming at the same time.
Like, as a carry player, he's capable of all three things. And it doesn't feel like he has one
specialty anymore. When in the past, he used to be more of a hard carry. Now he just kind of does
at all. And in this game, too, on a spurion, you just deliver it. But can you say, Bro is
getting a global TV rampage?
Yeah, a lot of momentum. Like, this guy really rides the momentum that he does have. A lot
of, like, a lot of the time you'll see team sacrifice for him, knowing that he is going
to be like, there's a lot of trust in this team, not just between the players, but also
something that he talked about is the trust that the drafts are going to be working out,
because he says, you know, puppy, he picks the heroes, we play the heroes. It sounds
easy but it does take a lot of trust because you know we don't we have
information that we're seeing so far at EWC but also prior to the scrims I
assume those are also going really well for them because everything seems to be
on point and this team like even because they're gonna be playing against the
Andex next I will give slight edge to pVision because the execution like it
seems like everything is super crisp like their moves that they're making across
the map a couple of these niche heroes as well not many people all people are
playing position for Earth Spirit they are in 9th class again finding a hero for
himself like he does at every single tournament and utilizing it the
perfection. Yeah and DeKalus mentioned in an interview that he thinks
satanic is their most valuable player because not only does he carry them but
he controls their comms he's like oh he just plays everybody's hero he tells us
what to do so he is the classic carry in the sense that he at every stage of the
game has a vision and is allowing his team to play off of that vision. Maybe
than extra value having him on a hero like they just profit that adds value everywhere on the map.
Oh, he sees everything. Yeah, he's ready to join himself, these early engagements. And I think we
also got to give credit to the Colas. He has been on point with these curses, the chemistry that
they have between him and notice with the vacuum and the curses, like he pulls them back in. It
was just beautiful to watch this time around. And just the whole squad, it seems like everything is
clicking for them and this is what you want to be seeing like this confidence like this dominant
performance that they are like transitioning from the group stage into the playoffs and saying
you know a couple of days that we had off like we still understand everything everything's still
working for us. Yeah still very much on top and unfortunately of course on the receiving end of
this series was Rune Eater. So we'll say goodbye to them with some final words from Eki.
I'm here with Eki from Rune Eaters. Just got knocked out of the tournament. Tough loss there.
What are you feeling right now? We feel pretty pretty devastated of course. I mean losing socks
but I think still quite satisfied that we still got to beat some teams. We still got to go to the
last three days of the event. Like top 8 is not a bad result but obviously we wanted to go further.
We wanted to do more such as life. We come back stronger next. Yeah, I mean there's 24 teams at the tournament you up top 8
That's amazing. You guys won 70k got club points a lot of good things going for you
What what was different about today versus yesterday when you guys played because I know you guys were firing in all cylinders yesterday
Everything looked good. Why did today look one-sided? I think today?
It's the nature of our opponent. I think they had a very good strategy going into us
They had the way they played a map was very punishing for us
I think we didn't have the best answers. We kind of had to improve as the game is going on
So I think they they just did a really good job honestly
and
They kind of stopped us in our tracks, you know in a lot of ways, but I
Think they're just a very very strong team like one of the contenders
So that's just that's just life. Yeah, I agree with that
They definitely proved a lot what's I like playing in those like in game two moments where it feels like you can't even kill a creep wave like
What do you even do? What do you find on the map? Like where you supposed to go?
Yeah, I think in those scenarios, everyone already kind of feels it's coming close.
You just always have to be optimistic and go look for the one-play.
Even at the end there, we're like, okay, well, we're going to get BKV, we're going to fight
second-roach, I guess that's all we can do.
If we give them ages, we're going to lose, so we might as well go.
That didn't even come to it because they just attacked us before that, but that's the kind
of thinking you're going.
Our job is just to play and try to win, no matter the circumstance.
But when it's over, everyone kind of knows it's over, you know?
Well, you guys have played to win many series of this tournament.
I'm happy for you guys for getting as far as you did, and thank you for joining me for the interview.
Well, Roland, thank you.
At the end of the day, Aki says the two, Pivision, just a very strong team and definitely a contender.
And as we see here today, both our series were 2-0s, and these two teams, Yamnex and Pivision,
They will play each other in a semi-finals.
One of these two guaranteed in the grand finals.
And that semi-finals is already looking pretty stacked.
I know this morning we started the day
with having our grand quarter finals.
I think we might have our grand semi-finals
coming your way as well at some point.
But this is the bracket for you guys.
We have one half of the bracket filled in
with the quarter finals.
Effie, one more to go.
One more to go.
And I mean, these ones are exciting too.
We have Vici who were a big surprise yesterday in terms of how they were able to just get
more confident and get the win versus Wanda, which nobody expected, versus Falcons, which
are of course one of the best teams in this tournament.
That's going to be pretty exciting and Lacoste, it seems like you know, Nygma are back here.
Yeah, it seems like they are back for a 50th time and for real this time they might actually
be back and we've seen like the underdog stories from Ruin Eaters.
We're seeing a little bit of underdog story coming out from Vici Gaming as well.
Bigba Galaxy, I wouldn't have called them underdogs because they just played so well.
And like in TI qualifiers as well, they already shown what they can do in the group stages
here at DWC.
Everything looked very crisp.
They got that first place as well.
And not going to be an easy match up for them by any means, but should be a very interesting
one.
Like this series, I feel like it's just going to be a banger.
It should be for sure.
Of course, all of that is tomorrow because today this was the end.
I do want to know what stood out most of today.
I will go first if you need me to, because the thing that stood out most to me was how
well in Yandex and P-Vision both played, and I can't wait for those semifinals to get that
one from you.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, now I need to think of something else and we will do it on the spot here as
we're talking.
We're still thinking about the things that we are going to be saying.
Jokes aside, I feel like, you know, Yandex and P-Vision, both of these teams, they looked
very stable and it's going to be like, it's going to come down to like the smallest things
that it comes down to the draft thing like the execution because they look so stable like in the whole season pretty much
So gotta be very interesting. These are the types of teams that are
You know gotta be winning the tournament and the as he already said in the interview say panics like yeah
One of the two teams that we have right now is probably gonna win it and he's not wrong
Yeah, I mean it's just a shame that we won't get a grand finals between
Yandex and Puget and like one of them are just gonna get taken out early on
But I do think the winner is there between those two and whoever faces on the grand finals has a really really tough
Well-to-climb because it feels like they're just the best to buy a big margin
Yeah, maybe maybe we all just have some recency by us here because of course we saw the teams play today
It's actually at the end of the day tomorrow will change our tune
But if you want to find out that you got of course tuned back in tomorrow as said this was it for today first half
of the quarterfinals done second half coming your way tomorrow but if you
missed any of today's action don't worry we'll leave you for now but we won't
leave you empty-handed enjoy the STC recap of the day