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BB Team vs. Vici Gaming | Dota 2 at EWC 26 - Day 11 - Playoffs - LIVE
07-18-2026 · 7h 37m
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Previously, they didn't really listen to me much, but now I feel like I'm on the car than they are, so they listen to me.
Did they miss you as a player?
I don't know, I actually asked them, but they looked like they don't care. Our host, Slava, he was missing.
Okay. And how do you compare playing versus coaching? I mean, it's still recent, but do you feel the same level of stress?
No, no, no. Of course, of course.
You're more relaxed?
Yes, yes, at least I don't need to play pubs.
Okay, yeah.
With it?
Until I really was.
No, no, no, at all, because pubs are so... it's so bad to play rock.
But what happens when something in the game doesn't go the way you planned it or the way you think?
How do you feel about that?
I feel like, what the fuck are you doing?
It's obviously, don't do this, there are many other options.
Except this, don't run at 4 vs 5, just with your hips here for example.
Do you stay calm?
I usually stay calm, yeah.
I feel something, it's like a bit nervous, like while I'm watching the game, no, it's a new feeling without the balance, so it's cool.
How about you guys, like what's the, how does it compare playing, I mean for some it's been a longer time than for others but I'm sure you still, it's still very vivid.
How does it compare like playing versus coaching in terms of like emotional attachment?
I'm more emotional watching, because when you're playing you're focused on playing and you zone into the screen.
I just have to balance watching as coach and watching as a fan.
What's the difference there?
It's like trying to be more technical and not too excited.
I get pretty nervous sometimes. It's been pretty fun overall.
I'm still learning a lot.
and yeah a lot of it depends who you're working with too I feel like
does it get better over time like the nervous aspect or like you know the
tension of watching the play no it doesn't get better at all okay so you know
what you signed in for it doesn't get better like you will always feel the
the nervous when you watch them no not always not always I mean usually I'm
Yeah, but sometimes it's like some I mean for example we play the game Stigwa or
Clive first that was like the first thing opening is like strong opening we met so
and we also lost first map so I felt something like okay like now need to like
put more focus or something like that and the second game I remember it was not
easy game like we played before. So I really felt nervous and some
stressful and I was really watching the game. It felt like what I can do, but I
cannot do it, cannot help, anyhow.
Once they are playing, they are playing.
For example, if it's a sparse game, I'm still thinking like how I can help,
what I should focus on, what we can say before the second game will start,
how we can maybe change our focus on what things we need to fix.
Yeah, so yeah.
What do you see? It's just a new feeling.
How are you guys? How does it feel?
I mean, for you it's been a longer time, do you still remember what it feels like playing this game?
I'm sure you do.
Yeah, I think coaching for me, I get more nervous as well.
More than I think.
I think so. I think it's about the lack of control and just like when you're a coach in between games
you have to be like emotionally centered or like regulated for the players and you have to decide
what you want to show to the players in between games whereas when you're playing I think
you're able to be more open about what you're actually feeling and for me that translates
into like more nerves or like feeling like I don't have control over what's happening when watching.
I'll go back to that thought because I want to pick you guys brand on...
Yeah, I'll go back to that. I think it's very interesting. What are you?
Well, I think for starters, I agree with Kuro and Aoi that when you're playing,
you actually don't think too much. You're just playing. You're like in the zone,
you know, like, if they're any smoking, you don't know. Maybe you know, but like,
when it happens, you're just like, oh, shit, okay, we just keep playing.
But if I'm watching, I see both perspectives, one team is smoking, one team is not, then that
shit gets me nervous. You're like, oh, shit, what's going to happen? But when you're playing,
it just happens. So that for me is the main thing, the ability to see both perspectives.
Do you enjoy that shit? Is it a positive feeling, this tension, or would you be happier without it?
I mean, it looks good and bad, I'd say, like, it's hard to say, like, obviously if it turns out good for us then it's like, oh yeah, this fucking hype, you know, like, but if it's, if we like, get teamwiped and they get rich and obviously like, I feel like shit, but it's very soon, you know, so, but overall I think it is a very interesting, and I'd say it's like, pretty fun, yeah, for me.
That's it for us. Thank you for watching and obviously best of luck to each and every one of them in the tournament
They're all doing really well, but there's only gonna be one winner. So we'll have to see. Thank you. Bye. Bye
Hello everyone, I'm Seb joined with three wonderful people
There's a little bit of an OG reunion in a way
We have a teamado on my left and then BGM and Ari on my right
Good to have you boys. How's everybody doing actually so far?
Doing good, excited for a reunion. Looking forward to this.
Nice. How's Dota training you guys these days?
Same old, sometimes happy, sometimes sad.
How about you guys?
I'm the same.
We did lose yesterday.
I would say it's like more extreme, like more highs and more lows.
Yeah.
You guys gave us a nice map, so thank you for that.
You're not just out, so, you know, tough love is what it is.
I mean, yeah, well, what can we talk about?
How long has it been, actually?
Is it, are we talking two years?
Yeah.
Is it more than that?
It's two years?
I don't think so.
It will be two years.
I don't think so.
Yeah, two years.
Two years, yeah.
Because last EWC, you guys were...
Our Shopify.
Your Shopify.
You were...
You played last year.
You were Tundra.
It wasn't three years ago, OG.
Three years ago, yeah.
It was...
You were on Tundra, both of you?
No, no, I wasn't.
It was on Y2Z and last year.
I think two years ago it was OG, EWC.
It wasn't last year, for sure, because last year I was casting.
Okay.
Okay, I have a...
I have a question.
An important question.
Why were we bad?
You can say...
No, I mean, I just wanted to make you laugh with this one.
But you can say it's...
It can't be because of me, you know?
Free bullet.
But let me put it more serious.
Any hot takes now, looking back,
and reflecting on things we were not doing well enough,
I guess, that's a nicer way to put it.
Yeah.
And I would say we had a little bit of stubbornness in the team
We held only one way to play the game, and if it didn't work out, it was like we were kind of lost, I would say.
So that's not optimal.
I would start by saying we weren't always bad.
There were points in the year where I felt like we were very good.
Like Birmingham and in preparation for Riyadh were two high points, I would say.
They were actually far like we were a tier one team at these moments.
But when we weren't good, I think we lacked structure, maybe, like a really strong foundation
of what is our identity and how do we want to achieve it, at least I can say now compared
to my experience in Tundra in one, when I feel like the structure is more solid, it's
more clear what everyone's role is and how we're contributing to the team in this way.
So maybe I would say that was why we weren't always good.
It gives you inconsistency if you like it.
I see.
I think my POV is like, there are some things that you specifically like demanded of me,
but I didn't really understand back then.
And then as time went by, I understood better what you meant.
And then now I find myself asking that from other teammates, which is, I'm like, damn.
It's the cycle of life.
Yeah, it's kind of goes.
I feel like, I mean, I've seen this from first time, because me and my current team, these
happens when it's like you spend so much time trying not to convince people to see some vision
that you kind of don't get to see the other part and I feel like in the Oji Dora yeah like Dora
wise we miss some explicitly like Dora stuff but we kind of didn't go there because there was a lot
of like are you in back and forth whether this first vision was correct or not yeah yeah that makes
sense something like that that is interesting uh I do know of course I mean I was trying to crack a
when I said, well, are we bad?
I don't think we were bad.
I mean, at times we definitely have been bad.
On paper when you look at the placement.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But I think for us that, you know,
with practice behind closed doors a while,
we knew that the team had potential for sure.
Yeah, I feel like inconsistent is a more appropriate word
than bad.
Very inconsistent in a sense.
But I think we actually felt very confident going
into EWC, right?
Yeah, that went really well.
And we were feeling very confident.
I don't remember the games.
I don't remember.
It was pure brutes.
They picked it twice.
Oh yeah, pure brutes.
It was to pop some.
Oh yeah, yeah.
We had some rough talk after that one, I remember.
Yeah.
There were some words being thrown about fear.
Yeah, I don't remember actually.
Yeah, that was tough one.
It's coming back to me now.
Yeah.
It's coming back to me now.
I remember Whisper selling like his key.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he saw like his greaves and then he bought a Radiance.
Yes, yes.
He bought a greaves on Bruh, right?
It was playing Bruh.
He sold it.
He sold it?
Besides it's time for spade.
Yeah, it was the meta where you...
We were playing really fast, right?
And he was connecting really early.
The offlaner was coming to Wisdom.
You remember that?
Yes.
That's what happened many times, where like he's coming with some Phoenix position 3
and he's coming to fight the Wisdom rune.
He's keeping safe lane.
Yeah.
It was something like that.
I think at some point he decided.
You remember when I was trying to test it?
Yes, that was fun.
Ending game is 15 minutes.
I won with Revolve, so you put me in and I would just react to him.
Yes, bro, fun.
The wisdom you could click, right?
Yeah, right.
Correct.
Correct.
Have you guys played versus each other ever since?
Like you must have?
We stream a lot too, I feel like.
Like out of the tier 1 teams, you guys give us more scrims.
Because Bulba and Moon are friends too, now.
And he's also friends with Netta, we have a lot of strings.
Yeah, we play Shadow of the Woods.
Do you guys ever feel like playing versus former teammates is like different or is it like, is it a factor?
Is it not at all? Like, you feel like you read better into what the other wants to do or it's whatever?
Personally, I find it a bit more fun if I actually have some sort of connection with my opponent.
Like, if I kill a problem and I see five random guys I've never seen before,
I feel no interest in this game at all, honestly.
I don't care about this game.
But if I see people and friends of one the other team,
I'm enjoying the game now.
I want to win.
I want to kill them.
The Brit likes banter.
Yeah.
He likes banter.
He likes to take his teammates and them on the team.
I remember now.
Actually, you know, I just don't want the memory.
That's always been a topic in teams.
When like two teammates meet in a pub before the stream starts,
and then one loses horribly, or like back in the air of double downs.
That's a weird start.
That's what we do today.
an experience about that quite recently actually.
Yeah.
When we had Parker standing, we were about to play an official.
We're playing a warm game before the game.
And one side, you have BGM, and it's a plus 40 game for BGM.
And the other side, you have me, Neto, Whitemon, Parker,
and another guy, like everyone.
We should win it for sure.
Wait, four versus one?
Yeah, kind of. It's plus 40 for him.
I was with four guys.
And BGM has game of his lifetime, and my guy is running it down.
Like, I'm like, I feel like I'm the only one trying to win this game.
The parker picked Axe Carry, and my mom's playing Sniper Mid, it's like the worst experience of my life.
And this game, minus 40, Vizem Winsor.
It's funny how I can remember this, because it's been like a walk.
I was genuinely mad, and I think I played it wasn't official because of it.
Oh, it wasn't official, it wasn't even a scrimp.
It was a pub before the official.
Okay, oh boy.
You made a rule, don't you, NTSM?
It was like, you cannot play with two more of your teammates.
It was like, because we had something happen too, whatever.
This always happens, like pubs and teammates.
Yeah, and sometimes there's like some funny banter, high fives, tipping, and at some point it can stop being funny, and then like the other kicks in, it's like in the pubs itself at the point, you know?
To be honest, usually we have fun with it, but that one was rough.
Hello, everyone. Welcome to 1WC 2026 Dota 2.
This is a interaction segment before the game.
I'm Xiao Gezi.
I'm from the VG team.
I'm Qin Qin and I'm Xiao Mao.
I'm Mao Shen.
Long time no see, everyone.
How have you been?
I'm good.
I'm cool.
Are you tired from training?
I'm pretty tired from training,
but I've been playing a lot.
I've played a lot of games.
What about Mao Shen?
I think I'm okay.
I've been here for a while,
but I've had a lot of time.
Today, we are here for the sake of the two of you.
To reward you.
Because we always see
foreign players coming to China.
We will invite them to eat some snacks in China.
Today, we will eat some local snacks in France.
Have you ever eaten them?
Do you know of them?
No.
It's not a vegetarian food, right?
It's not vegetarian food.
And there are almost a lot of macarons in China.
Yes.
Is there anyone who is interested in it?
There are four of them.
I'm interested in them.
I feel like I want to eat them every morning
when I'm hungry.
I'm hungry, so please eat them all, okay?
Don't reject me, okay?
Let's do this.
From the outside,
please give me one that you think is the best.
That must be the best one.
This one.
I think you should choose these two.
Choose one.
You choose one.
I choose that one.
You choose the butterfly.
You choose the macaroon.
Please taste it.
I want to try this one.
Eh?
You don't want to eat the butterfly?
But it's too much.
The macaroon, too.
How is it?
It's good.
It's delicious.
Have you ever tried the macarons in China?
Yes, I have.
It's sweeter than the ones in China.
They don't taste that sweet in China.
But the taste is pretty good.
The authentic Chinese style macarons.
Yes, if I were to rate it, I'd rate it 8 points.
8 points? 8 points? 10 points?
Yes.
Not bad.
It's okay to use your hand to grab it.
This is pretty good.
Maybe I'm too hungry.
This is your breakfast.
You didn't eat it last night.
Okay, now we have chosen the most delicious one.
We will choose one that doesn't seem to be too small.
This one.
This is from Mini Small Cuisine.
It has a strong flavor.
It doesn't give me a good feeling.
It smells a little bit.
It doesn't give me a good feeling.
How about having a bite?
It may look like something.
Do you have to eat this?
Uh
He really smells not very good
One bite, one bite, no poison, don't worry
No, it's okay
Although he smells a little bit
A little bit stinky, but he eats it
Is that kind of
Normal kind of
The kind of sweet and sour
It's kind of like the one in Guangshi Lachang
Yeah, yeah, but it's harder than that
Oh
And then the meat is like this
It's a big piece
Yeah
That's right
You can try this
This one
I'll give it 5 points
5 points?
It tastes not that bad
It's not that bad either
It's not that bad either
It's not that bad either
It's not that bad
It's not that bad
It feels a bit hard
How does it taste?
It doesn't taste that good
But the meat is not that bad
You give it 3 points
3 points
It's not suitable for your appetite.
Since we've already tried it,
it looks the best from the outside.
I don't want to eat it.
Let's try the rest.
This is Madeleine.
It's a classic French bread.
I'd like to try this one.
It's good too.
I've never tried this before.
This is Madeleine.
Actually, the taste that the two of you mentioned earlier,
the taste might be this one.
This is called Mixte.
It's a Miscoulle milk.
It's called chou milk, so it's a bit stinky.
But you know chou tofu is also stinky, but some people like it.
This is my favorite.
Is that the one?
The blue one is also very stinky.
Yes, but it's not in my house.
I can try it.
I think you should try this one.
This should be the one you've never tried before.
Try it.
Milk and Madeline together.
If I don't use this one, it's not bad.
I can spit
Is the chicken soup good?
Yes, it's chicken eggs
Oh, chicken eggs?
I want to try it
I've never had this before
It's not that good
It's a bit like eggs
It's a bit like salted duck eggs
Right?
The rest is some...
This is hard milk
And next to it is the soft milk.
It's also a white plum soft milk.
Let me have a look.
This milk goes well with fruits.
It's very delicious.
It's a bit like...
It's milk.
Milk.
Yes.
I'll try the cake first.
You can have a bite.
You ate the skin.
You also ate the middle one.
The cream.
The skin is a bit...
It's actually a bit like a white plum on top.
So it might be...
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This is nothing. This is personal preference.
I don't like this.
This can't.
It's hard.
It doesn't taste this.
Oh, this.
This is more delicious with an orange.
Well.
The hard can taste light.
Maybe it will be better.
Is it like that?
Better to accept.
It's not pretty.
Yeah, there is.
It's just that we haven't tried it.
Oh, yeah, it tastes very light.
Yeah.
Very refreshing.
But the heat should be higher.
Well, you'll be fine after a bite.
Now it's time to control your weight.
No, no, no.
I mean,
since it tastes not that good,
and it's really hot,
I think it's something I don't usually write.
Because, like,
all these milk products,
they all have to go with some,
for example,
biscuits, bread,
or fruits.
Yeah, this is chocolate biscuits.
This looks good.
This is a famous snack here.
This is also
a snack here.
Yes, it is.
This is delicious.
It looks delicious.
It looks like
I've seen it before.
I've seen it before.
This is delicious.
This is good.
Is it sweet?
It's a bit sweet.
But
because you know it's sweet,
you think it's delicious.
You can accept it.
Okay.
And the last two.
We can give them all
after we finish eating, okay?
Okay.
This one and that one.
I haven't tried this yet.
This is called
three-striped milk.
Three-striped milk
should also be a kind of
light one.
It's also milk. It's dangerous.
It's okay. It's a bit light, yellow and a bit salty.
It's a bit salty.
At least there's no feeling that I'm not eating it.
I want to try it.
It's a bit like the one I had when I was a kid.
It's like the one I had when I was a kid.
It's a bit like it.
It should be the same.
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Pwners are able to deny and one of their creeps before you can get the last hit, not only
do they prevent you from being able to get the gold but they also produce less
experience. So in the context of a mid lane matchup this is really really
important because it determines who's going to level up faster. Maybe somebody
gets level six, gets their ultimate before you and can kill you with it for
example. This happens a lot in mid lanes in pro matches and it really affects how
effective your side lane rotations will be or just how quickly you gain items
because that's what you're doing with your gold right? You're with your gold
that you're gaining from last hits. You're buying items and what those items do
Typically is provide your regen and most importantly more damage that damage really really matters in last sitting
Because it's going to affect how early you can get those last hits and thus if you get more last hits early and gain
More gold and buy items with that that's going to translate to kill two more last hits that further compound your advantage
So let's let's show you guys some examples in the game here
So if I am playing a Lena here, I'm gonna have to do this one-handed unfortunately
But if I'm playing Lena in the mid lane, I know that the time that I have to get a last hit is very specific now
This is not a problem for league players who can play one-handed, but in Dota here. We actually have to press the a key. Oh
Let's go for a deny. I did it with one hand. See you league players can transition as well
So denying is very difficult sometimes
But it does give you the chance to get a lot of golden experience now another way to last hit is to use your skills
If you think usually skills do a little bit more damage than your right-click abilities do
But if you use your skill like I'm gonna mouse click this here if you use your abilities
You can use them to get gold and experience the downside is you have a limited amount of mana
But what can actually happen is you can get further advantage here in your game if you can harass while using last hit
You can see here that Queen of Pain has less than max HP
That's because when I used my ae and not only got a last hit, but I also used it to harass my opponent
So using your skills in a double beneficial way like this can be a really nice way to get lane advantage in your lane
Because I could use my spells just to harass, but it's better to do both usually so that the last is can be a little bit hard
Let's see if we can get it. Oh, I missed it
But I harassed and I also secured or almost secured the last hit at the very least it didn't get denied
Denying is super super important. If you play against better players
What's gonna end up happening is you're gonna be bullied very effectively by good last hitters
But some kind of mix and prioritization there is very important if you take a look at my base damage here
it's sitting at about 64 average right now.
So some common items that you'll sometimes buy
is these generic stat items.
Null Talisman is a great early game item for heroes to buy.
It's gonna increase my damage by five basically,
which might sound like a small amount,
but if Queen of Pain here has only 57 damage,
it's gonna make a big difference in terms of her ability
to contest me in last hits.
So if I have five more damage, really good players
are gonna abuse this in an effective way.
I'm gonna buy an Observer Ward as well.
It's gonna help me spot where my opponents are
across the river from me, since I destroyed my creep spawning after redoing it manually.
The last thing really matters as the game continues, you're going to hit more levels.
Let's level me up a little bit.
As my abilities become better, it's going to increase the damage that I do with my skills.
That's going to mean that nuking my opponents is easier and is more effective.
So I want to make sure that my last hitting cascades me effectively.
It's going to give me more damage.
It's going to give me more items, and it's going to eventually make it easier for me
to kill my opponents, especially if they aren't real people.
That's why you should always play against bots, because winning is the most important thing in Dota 2, so that's the basics of last hitting.
Make sure that you guys practice this in your games, and learn all the nice tips and tricks that you can to use it against the best players.
And who knows, maybe we'll see you at EWC 2035, if you're a League player.
Okay, thanks for watching guys, we'll be back with more of these basic tutorials soon, and we'll cover a lot of different concepts,
bringing you guys some new info and to allow you guys to play the greatest game that we have here.
Alright, thanks, bye.
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So here we are the culmination of two weeks of play coming up this weekend we truly have
I've had everything at Dota 2 here at EWC, haven't we, Perch?
That's true. We've had tons of really good games so far, some really long ones, some 90-minutes, some fast games.
We've had some stomps, but most importantly, we've had a huge amount of upsets so far at this tournament,
which makes the upcoming games really, really exciting.
It should be really cool today. We've got a couple of teams we did not expect to be here.
What's our expectations though today, Perch? Are we expecting some of the top teams to come out, or are we thinking more upsets?
I mean, we do have P-Vitch and the Endix on one side of the bracket.
Those are arguably the two best teams,
but on the other side, we've got the Vici Gaming
continuing to upset possible storyline
that I'm really excited about.
I would love to see them go to the grand finals,
but who knows if we'll get there.
Oh my, well, I cannot wait.
Let's get into semi-final day.
The Dota 2 here at EWC.
It
It is semi-finals day here for Dota 2 at the Eastbrook World Cup.
We're live from Paris with the four teams that remain here in the tournament at the
end of the day.
Everybody will move to tomorrow.
I know.
But two will be in the grand finals and two will be in the third place.
The sider here to talk all about it is Sev and VSJ.
Good morning, VSJ.
How are you doing?
I'm great, Chiefs.
I'm super excited to watch both the teams that we're about to see.
Both series are going to be great, but the next two teams, they've been really leveling
up throughout the course of this tournament and it's really cool to just see the evolution
of the meta and how these teams have taken their own interpretation and I think there's
a reason that they're here.
How are you doing Sam?
I'm great.
This is like the top four ready to battle it out.
You know the funny part is that I don't think anyone would have had that top four.
You know how we used to have these predictions in the battle pass and whatnot.
What would the percentage be if people had to actually guess that top four?
There'd be a couple Chinese fans I think that I mean hopeful.
They probably had extreme gaming in it then too.
Even EV is like yeah you don't have extreme you know you don't have 1W you don't have
Falcons.
Honestly, I'd leave it below 1%, like predictability.
There might be like two people left that have predicted it correctly.
Yeah, even then, these might have mislead or something, you know?
So this is, for me, this is when Dora is the most exciting, is when you have the story
lines, as Perge mentioned in the opening of the show, where it's like, yeah, you kind
of want to see it happen.
At the same time, I'd be super happy for BV if they made it too, because this is a team
that's also looking for success.
Anyway, super excited for today.
Super excited for today, and we were already excited yesterday.
We take a look at our STC rewinds because the two teams that are the underdogs coming into the semi finals
They qualified for the semi finals yesterday and when we're talking about underdogs
You might be thinking like oh, then they must have barely scraped by no
The two series in the quarterfinals that we watched yesterday said we're so convincing for both teams
I don't think you can call them underdogs anymore because they literally I mean they stoned fuckins like maybe game one was like a
A little bit close and it was contested game two was just straight-out domination from ditchy gaming. So
You know, that's what we were saying when the tournament started
It's like when these big tournaments they come around
Everything is reset like everything is reset. No, it doesn't matter what happened throughout the season
It doesn't happen what happened. It doesn't matter what happened last month last week
You want to be looking at what is happening, you know, like day after day. What happened last series?
This is the only thing that matters. Even the group stage I'm not even looking at anymore.
Right now, Vici Gaming is looking like one of the hottest team in this tournament.
And I think they come in today as favorites, as far as I'm concerned.
Because what they showed yesterday was just incredible.
Yeah, they have the confidence factor. I think, you know, when they picked that last pick Slark yesterday,
that's the, are my a crazy person or am I a genius?
Like, that you're teetering that line very carefully.
And the fact that they answered in the interview afterwards that it was actually ZinQ,
who say, oh, I have Connell to give you mana.
This is like a team thing, believing as like this pick
can work, Ex-Im's the type of mid player that likes to really
ruin the game for the guy that he's playing against.
We usually see him playing like the Fipers and the Snipers,
but seeing him do it on a hero that hasn't been picked
all tournament in such a high stakes game,
that's amazing to see.
Yeah, we saw them eliminate tournament favorites, Falcons,
and we had another favorite team getting eliminated.
In the series after that, BB Team eliminated
Nigma Galaxy that was so hot in the group stages and they made it look easy.
Yeah, the reality check for Nigma, I think maybe it's fair to say that I don't think they showed the best version of themselves.
Yesterday, maybe the break that hurt them, also maybe the lack of recent experience anyway in these, like, in the biggest stages and the biggest tournaments
where you also have to manage your time properly, your efforts properly, you know, because it's a big deal, you know, playing a very intense group stage sequence
And then having to rest for four or five days just getting to watch, you know yesterday
Vici Gaming they said our hands are red hot where their hands are cold
So they don't stand a chance. I mean, there's there's a lot of truth to it
And I think yesterday BV they came more prepared. They just played they just played harder
Basically, I think they might go up a little bit of guard and you don't have that
You know like that luxury here everything is single limb
So if you're starting a little bit slow, all of a sudden you lose first map
You get pressured heavily because your tournament life is on the line and next thing you know, you're going home
I felt like strategically BB team. Yeah, you said there they were what better prepared
I think they were just a step ahead strategically with like picking shadow shaman of a very uncommon core position right now as a
Preemptive pick to the puck that's been very popular in the mid lane
It just feels like these teams like BB when they come prepared with these niche picks
I like say if he's a grandmaster to your shadow shaman
They're kind of like pulling it out of deep of deep pockets deep of the bag reaching in there and saying
how, you know, what former metas can we use to address the current meta, and they're just enabling their players and then their execution
We've seen Naga siren be picked in two perfect games already this event and not one, but Kiritich had over a thousand GPM
That that I mean that that was just beautiful execution from the team
The whole draft is not only counter picks but cohesive with like the Marana and the net setup from Naga
Just everything firing are also under yeah, and basically all our quarter finals
We're all 2-0, so all these four teams that you'll see in the semi-finals
well deserved and definitely proved that they were the better team in their quarterfinals.
We're gonna look for some finalists today, though, as this is our schedule coming your way.
And the series in particular, Ryan, I mean, they're both bangers in their own right.
I think they are both bangers, and I think for very different reasons,
we talked about these two teams, BB Team and Vici, leveling up at the right time.
while on the other hand the index and p-vision have just looked like the best teams at least from my in my opinion from the
Very get go and some of the teams that look like that are not here anymore
So these guys have been the most consistent of all and most dominant as well
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It's going to be a little bit of a gamble, though,
because anything can happen here on the stage today.
We have two beautiful series,
and I know that the second series of the day
with the Annex and Pivish, and those are,
and have been, the tournament favourites,
coming into the whole event before our Sony story of the day.
We went for the other one.
We went for BB Team versus BG Gaming, both of those teams.
Except they're late bloomers.
Yes, they are. And again, this is what matters.
Like, you have to peek at the right time.
I know I keep, I sound like a broken record,
but this is what I had to tell my teams when I was competing.
What I had to remind myself every day is like, it doesn't matter.
Like, you don't start, you know, we have this,
the rabbit in the turtle is like a famous French fable or whatever.
Where it's like, it doesn't, at the end of the day, the turtle finishes the race.
race and this is what matters because if you start too quick and you're too speedy you get you burn
out you get exhausted you get tired and what matters is did you cross the finish line and at this
point yeah maybe you know yandex p vision there must be some sort of fatigue perhaps because they
have been on top of the game for the entire season and again when you dominate the Dota scene
everybody's looking at you you have to reinvent yourself constantly you have to figure things out
get one step ahead you know and it takes a lot of effort and on on bbt in witch gaming a little bit
a little bit more under the radar, less pressure, especially for Vici Gaming.
And I'm just a David vs. Goliath, I'm always on the weaker side of things.
I think the other side of the bracket... Everybody loves the underdog.
Exactly, and there's some beef also between both sides of the brackets
because every time we get an interview from the bottom side of it,
they're like, yeah, whoever wins this year will just win the whole tournament.
It's like the other teams aren't even here, so at some point just show them.
Show them who's the boss here.
Yeah, going off of your fable, it's like when you fall behind early, there's a lot of different ways to respond to that.
And Vici Gaming, when they played the group stage, they played against Team Spirit as well as P-Vision.
And those games were not close. They looked completely out of their element.
They were a team that I had high hopes for coming into the tournament.
I did lose faith in after watching them in the group stage.
But when they fell behind early, they did not give up.
They had the mindset to come back, come up with creative ideas in the meantime.
And so how you rally back I think says so much about that because you can easily fall behind and just think there's no way
I'm catching this guy. He's way faster than me. Yeah, we're gonna focus our attention on BB team first
This is a team that even though late boomers this tournament they have been steadily doing well
Whole year round took one title as well a lot of top four placements including last year
But they've never really been able to properly
dominantly reach that number one stage when it really matters and I know
they're hungry for it and I'm sure they're gonna show some of that hunger
in upcoming series and one of the amount of the matches that we always look at
when we look at BB team is save the best position for according to many and I'm
gonna find out so are you how he feels before this match
hello I'm here to save from BB team you guys knocked out LGD you knocked out
Both series looked pretty easy from your guys' perspective. Is that how it felt playing those matches?
I wouldn't say so actually. I think first map against Aliddy and second against Nigma were not easy.
But yeah, I think we're feeling quite confident.
Okay, is it like a preparation thing? You just knew what you're going to do going into the matches?
I think maybe we just played better than those two teams.
Okay, in game, sorry, the second game you guys picked, sorry, it was your first game, you picked Naga.
Naga. It looked like a perfect Naga game. Did that just come up organically and you
thought of it or was it something you kind of like led them into?
I mean, we knew that it can be an answer for Lycan and Karedash is playing very good Naga,
so we'll just pick it.
Yeah, it felt really good, very easy game for him. What's your take on VG Gaming this
tournament? Obviously, you're watching your opponents, you're seeing their previous matches.
Would you say that there's some kind of pattern that you guys have figured out or?
It feels like they're playing good from behind, so we'll see.
I guess it's all about how we're going to get early advantage and end the game,
because they're kind of good at sitting, I guess, at the high ground or something like this.
So we'll see.
So what's your overall confidence level for the series?
I mean, they're confident.
That's good. Happy to hear that.
All right, well, thank you for joining me. Good luck in your matches.
Thank you.
A very confident save here for the upcoming semi-finals.
How do you feel about that confidence, Brian?
Is it well-placed?
I think it's well-placed for both these teams to have confidence.
I think for all the reasons we've been saying, they both have reason to believe that they're
going to win this series.
And I think for BB Team, like, based on that interview, as well as Katoma yesterday, it
seems like they're just, they get straight to business.
They know exactly what they need to do to prepare for each game.
They don't take any opponent lightly.
I don't think they're distressed.
They're not going to distrust.
maybe GPK did in his interview yesterday, but that's just GPK.
I think you have quite a balance of personalities within this team,
and I think they have that nice leveling out of,
okay, let's keep our cool, and I think that having these calm forces
that they've added over the years with Miro and Kiritich
have really made them the team that no longer crumbles
in the third to fourth place area of the tournament.
And I think when you hear these interviews and you hear also players being sometimes a little bit,
I mean, it wasn't the case for State of Herald,
but being a little bit like, you know, they provoke,
core, just keep in mind that they know that the other team is watching and they're listening
because they're sitting backstage in the preparation room just waiting to be called on the stage
and whatnot and they're listening to the broadcast, they're listening to us actually, especially
before the game starts because they have nothing else to do.
We say such smart things, that's why they're listening to us.
They pay much more attention to what the other teams players are saying so if you can get
in their heads a little bit, if you can tell them that you feel like you're pretty confident
and it's going to be a pretty smooth thing, it kind of depends.
What do you want them to hear? What do you want them to know before you have to play them?
I think for both teams it is well said, Brian, that you're saying they do not underestimate
their opponents. They are very much, not necessarily like too much to selfish, but they are very
much at both teams that focus mainly on themselves and how they come into a series rather than
what they think the other team will do.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think what Save said, the BB team has always been a team that
relies on, or not relies, but reliably gets off to an early lead out of the laning stage
and he even gave respect to VTGaming and their ability to stall out a game, come back, and
in other words, basically, he knows the story that he thinks he's going to see, he has set
expectations for himself, that it's not going to be easy even if they have that favorable start,
and I think at the end of the day, setting accurate expectations is a skill, and I think
these top tier players are very good at it. Yep, they are very good at that. We're focusing our
attention on the challengers here with VTGaming, making it top four already. This is a squad that
many would love to see go all the way. It has been quite a while since we've seen a Chinese team
on the podium. Can VG Gaming do it and break the trend that has been happening? A lot of people
are hopeful for that. Let's find out how they are doing going into this best of three elimination
series as we hear from Shiro. Hello, I'm here with Shiro of VG Gaming. Shiro, I would say that you
guys are the fan favorite to the tournament now that you've had two upsets. I was wondering how
How it felt yesterday to win your series?
Sure. Welcome to our game this time.
You are now a team of fans and fans.
How do you feel after winning the game against FaLao?
Everyone is very happy. I'm looking forward to today's game.
Everyone was super happy about it and we are all looking forward to our match today.
That's awesome. You did play a Spectre yesterday in game 1.
You bought agonim scepter. I was surprised about the item because I haven't seen other people buy it. So I was curious why you bought it
What did you like about it?
In the first game, you picked a ghost, and you picked A-Zhanzo.
We knew that A-Zhanzo was rarely seen in the game.
Can you tell us about the appearance of the game?
The appearance of the game may be less than the ghost in the game,
but it's a very common appearance among the players in the game.
Well, this might be an item that we rarely see in pro games,
but I've been playing a lot of EU pubs,
and this item is actually pretty commonly bought among specters
because, and the fact that we don't really get to see much specter in pro games these days,
but it is what, like, it's not such an uncommon buy.
What do you like about the item? What is it good for?
具体你喜欢Azure哪一点呢?就是,当时为什么会选择Azure?
呃,首先他可以减少那个大大的CD,然后他还有一个2秒钟的控制,
那个控制配合大晕锤会产生非常强的效果.
Well, first of all, it does reduce the cooldown on Hunt, and the fact that it provides like a two-second long CC, which would combo into a pistol blade for a very, very strong control, for a very, very strong disable. So, yeah, it is a good item.
That makes sense. What do you think is going to happen against BB Team? Are you confident?
I'll say we can beat them.
them. Okay, good to hear that. Well, thank you for coming and good luck in the upcoming match.
We can beat them. I'm sure both teams are having that in their heads right now.
For this series, it's actually pretty cool that I think for both of these teams, the main focus
will be on the offlane for both teams. Is that correct to say? Yeah, I think so. I mean,
everything is going to matter a lot. But to me, I think it's been also like one of the,
I guess silver lining of like this whole tournament and the meta right now
I feel like if your off lane is overperforming and
Actually, it doesn't even mean winning their lane. It means like not feeding I guess
Then you have an edge already because like it's the I think the toughest lane to navigate for now
And we've seen a lot of games just maybe not being lost
But have a really rough start just because of what's happening on your off lane and how dominant their safe lane is starting game
And obviously with the gate plays, we see these safe lanes, they have a smooth sailing,
then they start gating, they start messing with the other safe lanes.
So it's a damage control situation, and I think Vici has shown that they're able to
do it pretty well.
So is BV, so I don't know if it will actually hurt one team or the other, but they definitely
need to have that angle covered.
Yeah, so one of the offlaners right now, they like to end up cutting creep waves or not
interact with the carry past level 3 to 5 if they're getting off to a good start.
And that can be the difference between being like 6th in the net worth and we didn't seem
like Bach on his darkseer yesterday.
He was number one net worth for a large portion of the game and he's still going getting massive
blink vacuums on the darkseer and turning teamfights for his team.
So you mentioned like the performance in the laning stage.
I think it might be the most polarizing that I've in recent memory for me from the off
lane because we are talking a different stream being number one net worth and kind of having
minimal impact.
So I'm definitely looking at the arrow and Bach for this series.
But also I feel like that balance between the carries and the off lane has been shifting
back and forth because we're now seeing a lot of the drows in the SFs taken out early
and I think it's the problems more opposed to the carries of okay how do we actually
make sure the offlane does not get that game because that was easier to do much earlier
on in the tournament.
Yeah one of the games we saw from Vici Gaming yesterday and they also so commented on it
that they took a page out of the next book they have looked very strong and we saw them
draft incredibly strong lanes already I mean this was the one where they also had the Slark
So that was like the X-Factor there at the end, but overall, I mean, I had called a Beastmaster and Dream Protector alone through it.
First of all, don't think they're going to get their hands on that again.
That was definitely a little bit of an oversight from their opponents, potentially.
But overall, they have been set focusing on those strong lanes.
So potentially in the lane stage, it will be even.
I mean, hopefully it will be.
I still give BBT an edge just because of how good they are at executing that, you know, part of the game.
To me, the biggest difference would still remain in Vici Gaming's ability to strategize
because I think yesterday, one of the big reasons for why they dominated the Falcons
the way they did is because they came up with very solid drafts and synergetic drafts,
like strategies essentially.
And I don't think Falcons answered it properly.
And I don't know if Vici Gaming is used to answer that either, so we'll have to see.
We will have to see.
And we are going to see very soon because the semifinals are upon us.
We have Vici Gaming and BB waiting to take the stage, so to get this match started, we're
heading over to the stage.
Slaps, here?
Yeah, what?
Do we, do we know who's playing the finals?
No bro, finals are tomorrow!
Do we know who's playing?
Okay, but when are seminars then?
Yeah, that's today!
Today like, when today?
I don't know, today dude!
Wait, wait a second, this is Saturday?
Yeah!
Alright, are we, are we live?
Um, we're not live long. Oh my god. I
Slax, I think we're live. We're not live dude. It's like the lights are on. I can hear by echo. There's people in here
Okay, yeah, we're live. Oh shit
Okay, sorry
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to our day here at EWC.
We have got some good dough today.
Before we get into the day, though, let's talk a little bit about yesterday, big dog.
Yeah, I'm sorry to say this, Nick McGalaxy fans, but the dream is dead.
Rest in peace.
That just goes on, but you know what that just means we continue with our games
We're in semi-finals today quarters are done. You got to be happy with your performance so far
There's been a lot of dreams that have been crushed here alongside with the keys and you've been very happy with that slacks
Absolutely, I love watching dreams crushed from the greatest teams out there like Falcons
To a nigma who we all wanted to
Don't
Shout out to carry and go care my friends as we go in to our day here today
This is gonna be your pretty exciting many dreamers still here in the stage
Not many will be left after this if you're asking me just tomorrow
There will only be two teams left for that grand final in our trophy
Which will be talking about to no end as we get closer to it
However, let's introduce our first two teams and our semi-finals first up. It's B
Team!
Baby, already last year, the Esports woke up 2025.
They hit the quarter-finals.
Yes, they were doing great, but the dream ended just there.
This time around, it's straight onto the semis.
Even though they had to fight through survival,
they're doing better than ever.
They got dreams off the wazoo,
but they're here to crush whoever faces them in these games.
You've seen them focused, you've seen them ready to go,
And so far, they have crushed LGD, they've crushed NIGMA Galaxy,
and today they have one more quote-unquote underdog that they're ready to put six feet under.
No, no, it's not going to happen, my friends.
We have seen many underdogs in this tournament go down with a whimper,
but this team is different. I don't even recognize this team.
This team looks nothing like they have before,
And now they are coming to prove that Chinese Dota is alive again!
Let's bring out Vici Gaming!
Here they come.
These men have fought through the hardest of teams and made them look like garbage.
Today we will see if they are ready to put the next giant juggernaut into the trash.
Or they'll be scoring themselves out to the airport.
I think it could go either way.
I am expecting at least an incredible series, no 2-0 in this one.
Absolutely.
I really wanted to go to a game three in this
because there's just a lot of hope.
BB Team on the rise back at it again in the season 2026.
You got Chinese going on the other side that yesterday.
We've been hyping up.
They hyped it up.
They're the defenders of all this here.
And I cannot wait to see it.
So please beat your game and please, BB Team,
You may place your keys and get set and ready for your game.
And I'm very much ready for this one because I'm sure there'll be a lot of disrespect.
None at all. Don't shake hands. They'll be happy with it.
No, there's no disrespect here. Look at the teamwork. Just bring the key down.
Here we go. Nice!
Fantastic! All right.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are ready to get the carnage started with this fantastic game.
Underdogs versus the guys who put them down.
Let's see how it goes and throw it back to our panel.
I think PB Team is a very strong early game team.
Escued their drops very good.
I think we need to play map and play teamfights with them.
The other day, they're gonna be given a chance to drop their right in their own base.
Our route was easy in a way.
I was actually surprised that Vici Gaming won against 1W, and then they won against Alkans.
They're getting better and better with these shares, so it's gonna be one game for sure.
I think we're kind of confident, yes, coming into this series against Vici Gaming.
I mean, we're just gonna trade Vici Gaming as any other team, and I think they're gonna be setting a special preparation.
We haven't been, you know, getting champion champions for a very long time. Of course we want to get at the Chinese team.
These two teams only faced each other once this entire season. It was just a couple of months ago.
It went the distance, it went to that game three, and at the end of it all, it was BB Team that was victorious on that one.
It was close.
The word has not been said yet about either of these teams.
Can't wait to see what they bring to the table in the draft that is coming your way very soon.
Here with BSJ and Seb, we're going to try to give a little bit of insight on what we think might be coming.
And I think I want to start with the mid lane, and I think I might want to start with Alina.
Anybody want to have some insight on that?
I mean, both teams are hoping to get it, I would say.
I'd be really surprised if it gets through the poll and if it does you better be sure that there is like an answer
absolutely ready and
You know we'll see maybe like the hardest takes on how to beat Lena
But essentially if Lena gets through it's going to be picked on 100%
we have you know shiro and
Obviously XM to Lena specialists and on the other side of the GBK
I'm sure Curiatich can you know take a page out of Watson's book and he's also comfortable on it
So yeah, no doubt this year will be top early. Yeah, I think it's funny that we're even talking about Lena because day one
I don't think this hero was factored into drafts at all
I think as the meta develops you have the ranged carries that
Like the SS and the drows that are the creme de la creme
They get picked every single game or banned every single game and teams are like so we see initially a Lena come out
I believe it was Yandex that ran it first and we thought it was gonna be mid
And then they flexed it to carry for Watson and then shiro does the same thing in his first playoff game or first playoff series
And then people like wait, it's working as a carry
Why don't we just also pick it as a mid and then here we are talking about it being a first-hand band?
I think the teams that are able to see those heroes played by one other team
Recognize the strength that it offered in the game and then apply it themselves
There's a reason that both these guys have made it here
Lena does end up getting banded because Lena has graduated to the number one band or round
one band slot.
Suddenly we're seeing a lot more loners in such stuff.
I mean, I might be biased, but I have to say that, you know, when I put my mind to these
drafts and how the meta is developing, I am 100% in agreement with every Vici gaming
read so far.
And I think this opener to me looks like it looks really good for them.
Personally, I think they won with Lunter yesterday, but I don't think Lunter did anything.
I mean, in a sense, I'm sure he would have carried the game, but the game was like pretty much done by the time he came online.
Like Slark was dominating, Beast Cuddle, they came, like Amart talked about the game yesterday and he said,
I don't think this laundry or this Slark even did anything, we had a Beast Cuddle problem.
And laundry is a really slow hero.
Like this hero starts playing when he gets meowing eggs.
And this is the beast answer.
Like their their take is basically by the time you have these items, there's going to be a level two
a dumb beast that would have taken all towers, taken Rosh, taken Tormentor, and you're going
to be playing from, you know, 10K lead behind with a first pick hero that will also be countered
by Rakeri.
So, I very much love this approach.
I personally think that this lauded hero is absolutely overrated and that it should not...
I am going to, you know, take the gamble here that it's just going to go away from being
first faced in the next games and maybe even in the finals.
So we'll have to see how they make it work and how they execute it.
I think the call-gall band, so they're not going to get their hands on Beast Cuddle.
Obviously, the laning phase will be extremely tough for the Beast Masters, so let's see
how Witchy Gaming is able to maybe damage control this a little bit.
Yeah, I think Beast Masters are a very interesting hero conceptually, because I agree with everything
you said by the way, and the hero's win rate is 42% for the event.
And I think that's because the hero is so polarizing in terms of does it get shut down
in lane and just have virtually no impact? Or does it literally consume the entire amount
of taking every single objective, as you mentioned? And the teams that have utilized it to the
best, I think there's a reason why it's such a scary pick, despite its win rate now representing
it. I don't think every hero's win rate is indicative of its strength in the meta itself.
And we've been seeing Helmdall on every offlaner pretty much, maybe other than like acts. We've
been seeing it on Darkseer, we've been seeing it on Centaur. So it only makes sense that
the lichens, the beastmasters will come into play later on in this meta.
It's easy to say that in hindsight 2020, but Wyvern, a common, I'd say counterpicked
to both of these heroes, the lone druid for the percentage HP on the bear, but also the
beastmaster, because you can actually kill him with his own summons.
It's like, I like the Wyvern pick.
I think we've seen it work pretty well against Lone Druid, even though it's not as good
as what it used to be.
I mean, it's very good in the early game stops being, you know, it's a little bit worse once
100 plays with ag obviously because there's no such thing as killing the main but still you're gonna love the cold embrace
In a game like that. I also want to mention the Vici gaming bands
I think they're very much on point like Centaur is finally getting the respect the hero deserves in my opinion
I'm surprised. We haven't seen it first phase band right teams
Everyone is dominant like all the most successful teams are just crushing games with it
Like you think of DM you think of Miero like you just pick this hero early and it's always doing its job
It has incredible early game, great late game,
Lina's out as we mentioned, Kez Kiritoch, he even said in the interview,
it's my absolute signature hero, so whenever I play it, I feel like I'm just gonna win the game.
So very well targeted bands from both teams, in my opinion,
so they're kind of forcing each other into like the second plan, if that makes sense.
Yeah, absolutely, I think, I disagree with everything you said,
like the read from Vici has consistently impressed me during these playoff stages,
They've made such a significant adjustment going from the group state. I just can't overstate that enough
I'll happily be a broken record on that one, you know for me Wyvern is I feel like she's kind of in the category of
Which doctor where she's meant to give you a little bit of sustain and lane
She's meant to provide you with some sort of damage output that helps you take down these really high HP heroes
And then and the other side of things
She's a little bit less aggressive more on the counter initiation side of those things
But then people have been picking you know diving deep into the
ranged carry hero pool. Clinkz is a hero we've seen a few times throughout the
course of this tournament and what I like about this specific pick here is he's
one of the few ranged heroes in the entire pool that have like a attack
speed steroid that would help him kill the tombstone. With Undying you usually
want to play like a non heads-up game right you don't want to just fight into
them head like straight on you want to split them up you want to flank them and
burst them down and Clinkz is perfect for doing that because he's gonna save the
guy in front. Yeah and and we've seen these Undying's right like they become a
the problem. Like very early in the game, it's like they're just standing there and they have, you know, they have blink dagger, they have the shard, they have BKB at times. So I really like this, like overwhelming amount of physical damage approach, where it's like, you just kill this hero, like you don't let him basically break your formation by just being there and running at used spamming DKs.
I think you just have to burst the hero down. It's, it's not that tanky, like it's deceptively tanky. Undying has a really bad strength gain, actually. And once even when they are like high level level 15 or something running around with blink BKB,
We're running around with BKB, they're under 2k HP which is very little for Shank heroes.
So good approach in my opinion, I like the cleanse pick up, they go for the GPK puck,
it's a very strong pick.
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I do think it's important to note that early on the tournament Shiro was playing a lane
that was favored and he had one mistake early where he died and it ended up going heavily
in favor of the other team and actually lost them the game.
So that's just something I have to believe on his mind a little bit and if something
like that were to happen on either side it could absolutely blow the game wide open.
This is something, yeah, exactly, like, I think there's something that both teams can afford.
Like, you need the winning lanes to be winning, because at this point, the whole draft, as we said,
it makes a lot of sense, it's very well thought through, but it's also based on theory, which is what is supposed to happen.
And if the theory is just, like, thrown out of the window because of individual mistakes or mixed executions on lane, this is when it gets really tricky.
So for us, as viewers, we want the laning stage to be even, because then the mid-game can get crazy.
I think what we want to look out for is which lane is indicating a snowball?
Yeah, one way or the other because there's gonna be a lot of them not just the tusk lane
But all the other lanes are also gonna snowball and whatever lane does snowball and let's pay attention to how does the support then rotate?
How does the mid then rotate like that lanes gonna bleed into the other very quickly a lot of weight on zinc your shoulder?
I think in his early game decisions and rotations
We are looking at a very fun first game to open up this series
made extra fun.
That sounds fun, Kevin.
Thank you.
Vici Gaming versus BB Team Best of 3 Semifinals.
Winner of this goes to the Grand Finals.
Loser is not actually eliminated for once.
True.
They go into the third place matchup tomorrow.
Your thoughts on this general matchup between these two teams?
I think BB Team overall have been more consistent.
But Vici have really been rising up in the last few series.
Yes, I would say perhaps for a lot of people,
it's a bit unexpected to see Vici here.
I think the growth that they've shown and how they got here has been kind of insane.
You know, knocking out 1W, knocking out Falcons as well in the prior round.
I don't really know if I have a favorite, but when it comes to a Chinese team's performance,
this is the most impressed I've been since the TI finals of last year.
Alright, well they're peaking at the right time, that's for sure.
You're going to see a crush from Miero onto Y.
He gets off the snowball, but he's just going to connect with Miero and he's just outnumbered.
So this should be first blood going away of BB team.
And we'll go to save on the hood wing.
A good start for them.
Yeah.
When you get to the stage of a tournament, giving first blood or any gold injection can make a huge difference on any of these players.
I'm a little interested or like surprised perhaps that they put, so they're putting the Winter Wyvern into the offlane.
Of course, you know, Arctic Burn is very, very good against the Undying and against the Lone Druid in the top lane.
But it also means you don't have like a cold embrace in the safe lane against the Sardar and the Hook with Convul, so we'll have to see how the lanes go.
That was this matchup, XM playing the Necrofoce against GPK on his puck, one of his best heroes.
Maybe his second best after Storm, I would say.
I would maybe even put his puck as number one, I think this is his absolute signature.
This is a Necro favorite matchup, and it can go from bad to worse really quick,
as Necro is the type of hero if he gets an early advantage.
He can sit on your hill, permanently hit you, out-region you,
because he just wins with the sustaining overall.
And look at the rest of BB team's line up, Lone Druid, which has been a hit or a miss
in basically every game until yesterday, actually it's been mostly a miss until yesterday where
we saw the bear kind of appear in the mid game while the rest of the course actually
carried him.
Yeah, they were kind of winning without him in a way.
Is that the requirement for this hero right now?
I don't think your team needs to win.
If they can stabilize and damage control, I think you're happy.
If your team is winning, they're like, he go overperforming again.
See how he ends up shaping the lone druid this game.
And as we see the Undying on Cat to Omi,
we talked about the Pyramid already, and then the Offlane Miero on Slardar,
which, in combination with lone druid in the mid to late game,
gonna be pretty fearsome combo overall.
It's very, very good, and they talked about it on the panel too, right, Puck?
Overall, one of these one of TPK's best heroes, the hero isn't just phenomenal,
You know it's one of the few tournaments where the win rate isn't that good, you're starting to run into damage problems,
but they have a lot of damage amplification, right?
You have the boomerang later, you have the flesh golem damage amp, and also the corrosive haste.
And you can see that at least for now, GPK is doing a very good job at this early game.
Yeah, basically an even start for the puck, the necrophos matchup is going to be both sides getting the water runes as well
Well, in terms of rotations in the mid lane, which team do you think has the advantage?
With not only the supports that can come and potentially get a kill, but also being able
to leave their off-laner or whatever other lane, even the safe lane or alone.
Honestly, it's maybe not that different for both sides.
I would say both Tusk and Hoodwing really like leaving their lanes.
I'm not sure if we'll see that much from both Xinkyu and Katoumi playing the Winter
Wyvern as the zombie, as they're a little bit more slow.
But overall, like the other annoying thing for the Necro, for Park against the Necro,
this matchup is that by the time you have Coil, usually Necro is like nearly full HP,
he's got like a 21 ready, he's got maybe even a raindrop, a fluffy hat, so it's very difficult
to move to this lane.
And we'll see a little bit of action here from Barbecue Brisket team is, you can see
Block getting pushed out just a bit playing the Beastmaster, which has been an extremely
consistent off-lane.
It feels like any off-laneer that buys Helm of the Dom becomes just that.
Yeah.
old yesterday. Like his beast performance was crazy and he was very very pressured in that game as well
and honestly while this early laning stage is not that easy for the beast I think beast scales quite
well throughout this lane like once you get level 2 boars maybe level 3 to deal a lot of damage to
the bear also I'm dying kind of he likes playing against beast early on but not later all the summons
are very annoying it's very hard to run into this hero. How good would you say wyvern is against the
the bear later in the game, especially if you're linked up.
Very good.
I think Wyvern has to be like one of the worst support matchups.
You're one of the supports you have Cold Embrace.
First of all, obviously, that's a full notification of any damage
you have on Laundry, and the curse as well is incredibly good,
as is Arctic Burn.
Like, the bear hates when there's random stuff that's slowing you,
that's stunning you, that's making it difficult for you to walk in.
So I'm expecting Ginkyu to have very good impact, which he always does.
Yeah, no doubt about it, whether it's killing couriers or heroes.
He'll do something in the game usually.
One of the more, I mean, it's weird to call him underrated,
but he keeps finding himself on new team.
I mean, I guess that's just the Chinese scene in general.
This is swapping players constantly.
No, but this guy is very good.
Like whatever team he joins, they play incredibly well, right?
Like, Vici were fine, but then they get XM, they get Jinkyu.
And I feel like they're finally starting to really flourish
with like what they're showing us with the performance.
Yeah, for sure.
Which, thanks to the question, why are they free agents to begin with?
Yeah.
Shout out to XG.
Maybe he doesn't wash his face enough, I suppose.
That's definitely a possibility, hasn't learned his lesson from the great Zhao 8.
There's Keratich right now sitting on the pretty good CS, 28 and 4 versus the 22 and 3 of Shiro's
Clinks, which we have yet to mention in this game. How good of a Clinks game is it?
It's a good Clinks game. I wouldn't like it's not free by any means, as I should potentially get a
kill on the Billy the Boar. No, it's gonna get denied, very nicely done by GQ. Clinks game also,
it's good. You're laning with a tusk, so you're quite happy. The problem is, like,
Slardar is very annoying for you, like later on in the game, of course, for Rosa FaZe, it's not something you love playing into.
But other than that, you have quite good Roach capability, you have nice teamfighting with the Beast.
But I have to point out, GPK is overperforming in this midlane. This is not the expected outcome.
You have to definitely overperform.
Yeah, at clock, gets taken out, locked in there as a rotation from BB Team comes to fruition.
A good kill again for them. 2-0 start, 1K lead.
Yep.
And this this has to be the move like when you play against team teams the five-minute move where the post fork and deep into the safe
And you get a potential kill its nighttime you link up together and you can go to the room now at the six-minute mark
And I am surprised that they can actually play through the smith lane very nicely
I would say with GPK full HP full resources ring of fairy fire coil to boot
It's gonna be a fight for this room if it ends up spawning bottom as you see me arrow get a crush on the bot side connecting with Y
And he will back away as the rune is
It is still top, I do believe, and it will be a haste for GPK, so first power rune going away of Backstreet Boys team.
Let's see if the boom squad can make use of this haste rune, because while Necro is very good and he can be static in the mid lane,
he's not that good at responding to sidelines, he's very slow early on until you have travels,
and you don't really want to move so much around on the map.
And with a haste rune on Mr. GPK, of course you can look for some openings.
Still, many members up here for BB Team.
And they might bring GPK over to this Wissenshine, right?
Minute 7.
You've got the haste rune as well.
And Meryl gets gone on.
Gonna get off the crush, onto Y as a TP, and a nice charge, blocking him in, but reinforcements
have arrived as GenQ getting gone on now by GPK, and Meryl is gonna ensure the kill.
Although has to be a bit careful, gets off the crush, and the other will kill onto GenQ.
Well, there we are.
We've seen this not too long ago. The undying is very good at these engagements.
Put down that tombstone at the reaper site, will bring the undying to his grave.
The axe is coming out, it's axing, getting extremely low.
Under that cloak, with a snowball, it's gonna save him for the time being.
Into the lone druid, Garrett is extremely low.
Will get the kill, get the fear away!
Trying to go for the wisdom tribe, but he gets axed in the end.
And after all of that, Bach retains.
Yeah, they still have to kill these pesky zombies.
No vision on the tombstone overall.
Very, very clutchy. Honestly, by nearly everyone involved, without that snowball, XM definitely dives way earlier to Kiritich in that rotation.
That GPK topples the net worth as is Kiritich on the loan droid. They know the loan droid is maybe a bit more expected.
But the fact that V-squared team here have the top net worth pot at this stage against the net growth, that is not normal.
You say the loan droid is expected. I feel like every game, including the one yesterday where they won,
It's been bottom net worth the entire game until like maybe 40 player issue.
I think I've been very impressed with Keratich who, you know, when you talk about the experience-wise,
you know, for BBT, he's the least experienced. All the other people have played multiple TI's,
have done very well, they're like all the EWCs. But Keratich, he's been really, really stepping it up.
Because GPK will find himself a couple of bounty runes, not too shabby.
Has the damage runes still bottled.
And you'll see what UC gets out of that.
And XM, no big surprise.
Although maybe it is a surprise.
Do you typically go to boost the travel before the Radiance in the mid lane?
If you have an ultra free game, you can go Radiance.
It is quite slow, but I like the travels.
I think it's one of the ways you can more easily move around the site.
And also, you have an offline Beastmaster.
He's going to have Dominator eventually.
So anytime there's a roar you travel on top drop the sides take someone out of the game
Oh, but then about team with a little bit of a lead in this early stage of the game
But when it comes to the mid game, I would assume BB team have the advantage with Roche
Mainly because of the bear and corrosive haze and tombstone
I suppose while they so it's definitely a lot easier for them to take Roche
But each are also not that bad when it comes to like fighting it
Yeah sure like maybe the pit into the tombstone isn't super easy
but you have Winter's Curse against a lot of these heroes. It is very good, right?
Corrosive Haze, the Bear. And this is what we saw them do yesterday. Stacked up the Triangle.
You know, even though Bach maybe doesn't have the best early laning stage,
he could just fully recover with D-Max's Axis.
The SHPK is still not opting to use this damage room quite yet.
And they're popping on its own accord here pretty soon.
It's very nice if you can hold these runes as long as possible.
Like, a lot of the things in Dota is not just about using it,
but more like the threat of it all. He's got a haste room, we can't make any moves,
he's got the amplified damage room because now he still has it for the 10 minute room fight that's
coming up. That's true. Pressuring this tier one tower now, next team can only look on. We'll see
where this next room pops. It ends up being like an arcane and damage rune combined, which it'll
end up being the bot side, just a regen for Miara. Nice cover from him, can hold this for GPK.
And this, you know, the chip damage on towers like this, it matters a lot. You have loaned
with an atop lane, slowly pressuring.
GPK got the mid tower to 30% now.
There's a 10-minute siege creep, you know,
suddenly, instead of being like,
oh, we can't take the mid tower,
you could actually bring some heroes
and potentially commit to it.
Let's see if Battlebots are able to do anything
with this rune advantage at this early stage,
but so far, kind of what we've been seeing
across the board in these games
is just the content to farm in this early stage,
There's not a ton of action.
As we say that, they are going for smoke.
Okay.
Into the triangle.
So, looking at, you know, Bach, potentially finding him at the same time.
Of course, you see Keratage pushing in the top tier 1 tower.
There's the courier. They will not start attacking it.
See if they break.
They're heading to the north, and this will just be pressure for the tier 1.
See if GPK can find a potential opening here on an actual hero kill.
kill and you can see that even though the smoke technically it doesn't land there's a
lot of pressure that's currently being put on to Vici, top two one is dying, they're
looking for play down here onto Miro, a ball onto Miro just a little bit of
chipped damage can't really threaten his life at the moment, there's Katta, Omi, puts
down the tombstone to ensure that this tier one tower will go the way of BB team.
I think a very very good early game, I expected Vici to have a little bit of a lead here as
the Shiro taking quite a bit of early pressure.
That's a long, long, long Shiro.
They still have that vision that
backs to the corrosive haze and he just gets demolished.
Even the coil now has been
for that double kill on the GPK.
Very nice turnaround here as XN being pressured now.
Already at half HP.
That's only coming from the south.
That's going to be a three for nothing
as BB Team will likely get the tier one power as well.
Yeah, BB Team are kind of holding when it comes to
some of their early rotations.
rotations. I think this is a bit more of a macro outplay when we're looking at this early game,
smoking up top, applying some pressure, pushing mid at the same time. GQ wasn't available to come
help out in this fight, only just got his level 6 not that long ago. And the 3K lead this early on.
And you know we talked about it before, sure, Poggan some games doesn't really pop off, but
first of all it's GPK Pog, he won a matchup as he shouldn't, and he's got a lot of backup.
Yeah, definitely being more aggressive now, and like you said the lead is continuing to extend,
This is like it's a bit scary because we're doing this against a lone druid who's not really participating too much at the moment
That's obviously gonna change once he can separate himself from the bear that agonist scepter
Which I assume will come after the neonert. Yeah, it's like that is in the quickfire
They did force a true form out of heritage by fake pumping the water early on box
So maybe there's a world where you have a window, you know to find a smoke potentially onto the big bad bear
But at the same time already GPK he's got different ideas. He's coming in they want box
It was Reward's gonna hit, they get the waning rift as well to the coil, is there any follow-up though, the bear finally comes out as they get the roar and the curse at the same time, not the greatest layering, with that beachy have to run away, Jin Q likely to be the sacrifice, definitely not what the doctor ordered.
Just an extra as well.
And died somewhere off the map in the mid lane.
Wow!
Blink revealed from Miero.
And this is another, like, a great feature of an...
When a team is in the zone, you can make multiple plays at the same time very clearly.
They attack top with two, and in the meantime, Miero and save.
They're not looking there.
They know the job top is done with just two.
So they keep going to the mid lane and out.
40-minute wisdom shrine, 15 seconds here for the DVD Bobbity team.
Yeah, the Nannava team are really doing a good job here in the early game.
And it's gonna be pretty tough for Vici to get their own wisdom fine, like you said.
Got all these creeps now,
pushed up,
and save just
waiting it out, and looks like it'll be a freebie for him.
It's funny, like also how Dota works is that
if some things don't go according to plan, like,
you would expect BB Team to be the team that has to play slightly more defensive there behind,
but they're kind of full just reverse Udo with this GPK early game performance where
now it's Vici gaming, they have to wait, they have to wait for the helm of the overlord,
they have to wait for the radiance on XM.
Even Shiro on the clings, you know, he's not no desu yet. He's working on it might even go for the chart first
If he feels like he has to play more around the map
Accent did change his mind by the way, it will be the radiance first
Yeah, because at this point I like it like when you're down 4k gold what you're never going to use these boots
Was traveled aggressively might as well go for the more scaly item to try to speed up your game
As much as you can right from Vici's perspective one is the time that they can actually start fighting
This isn't one of the problems for them, they don't have any clear catch.
The way Beastmaster likes to play is that he wants to own the area.
So he wants to take the enemy safe lane, tier one, play in their jungle, move into the mid lane.
And honestly, it's a bit similar for Necro. He's not good at walking somewhere and just starting a fight.
TPK is going to find XM and be a very juicy kill before he can get this Radiance.
It's not that far away, but get the stun coming out from the tusk,
the touch but the crush comes out in my last moment, he barely gets out. Big getaway there for XM.
That would have been quite crippling if the Radiance not too far in the future.
Yeah, every very meat of survival there for XM. Yeah, just to talk about when they can fight,
it depends a little bit more. I think when BB team overplay, I think until then Vici,
I'm very happy if the game like kind of scales and slows down. You can see the Ginkyu going for
max out splinter blast and I get it you want to slow down the push get some
couple items and I like this stuff he has queued up you know sometimes you can
say oh shimchu he's so greedy but an organ in this game can be a huge
difference maker especially against the GPK puck yeah don't want to allow these
idiot puck guys when they have top net worth to just be like who I go which
played I could blink I go for rise and just go out of person I mean he is buying
a use next door yeah okay you see the replay here XM just barely getting out
Of course he wasn't waiting for that crush and that's all he needed apparently.
It was very good cover of course by Y, initially tanking the sharpshooter and coming in with the overall saves to get XM out.
You can see them here, they're good skirts, they understand you know Necrosil can have a very good middle-A team.
That's off.
Early cruisin' Hayes applied, we used the roar but he's completely outnumbered.
And a tombstone is placed as the reinforcements finally arrive. They're gonna get the push.
They do get the kill, turn around on the Katoumi, but XM bites the dust to the sharpshooter.
And out of curse coming out, a lot of damage applied to Miro, not quite enough for the kill.
Quo is not going to connect his GPK looking to finish the job.
His save is just racking up the kills apparently on his hood wing.
Double kill for him, ends up being a three for nothing.
Very close, Michi turning that around, but in the end they lose everything they came.
Save us eight vessel charges at mid... I mean that was mid at 16.
And it's a Vesa against Winter Wyvern and Necro, which absolutely hurts.
Later he can also go for the Shard, right?
You buff up a little bit more, spell amplification into your entire draft.
So, Vici, what I do like, you know, some of the heroes that they have, didn't even mention,
I love Necro and Winter Wyvern together, maybe later when there's a Nullify or you can't use your Ghost Shard suddenly,
there's a Ghost, like a Cold Embrace to help Yalva.
When you're playing into this type of deficit, a lot of things become a lot more difficult.
Yeah, and how fast can basketball team actually go for Roche, do you think?
I think they can dump Roche real quick.
Yeah.
You've got undying ants.
I don't know if you can ask for much better Roche takers outside of your carry position.
You can have the Tombstone, you've got the damage amp.
Well, luckily for Vici, the golem is on cooldown here for Katolny.
And Sheryl will show himself.
She's a newly picked up desolator, but like we can see on the other side,
Roche will be cleanly taken by Vici.
And I like this move from GPK.
You know, it's about some of the small things.
You know that that's a very small chance VG contest is rose even if they do you can just TP like GP K is doing as they want to hand him
The ages but in the meantime he was defending the top tier on tower
Say what's why to the dust actually find the clings already have a big it's crushed and destroyed
No time to do anything for shiro and bowling ball team are really snowballing this
With an 8k lead down ages still intact obviously and they can just push down any lane they want
I mean, honestly, these guys are just striking everywhere on the entire map.
You can also see how fast they're playing, like, BBT, full confidence, very little pressure on them.
As they are teeping up top, they have a very nice lane ward where Sage is also spotting them.
Damn, they are looking for an opening.
It's the Croson A's into the crush, though.
The Stobol is going to save Bok for a little bit, but the push back onto two with the coils that follow.
Just way too much damage for BBT, not even close.
And this is gonna approach the 10k lead mark or 10k network lead at this stage of that make 19 minutes in
This is absurd levels of play from BB team. These guys are zoning like pretty hard
You know first you decay defense top as they take Roche safe in the meantime while Roche dies sets up the mid play immediately
After the mid play he teepies top towards the lane ward and you can just tell they have a very nice read and grasp on the map currently
Trying to push back everyone
Not too long away, we're going to see that Tormentor taken out, and of course with the Curse of Haze, it's going to be easy pay at this point, BBT.
It's another benefit of this hero, that you own a lot of heroes, because armor is obviously you can't buy Lotus Orbs, but it takes a while, but you're so good at both Roche and Tormentor.
Probably the best hero at amplifying it.
it. It just feels like Shiro just finding scraps across the map. It feels like that's
the case for every core on Vici's side, as the top three networks in the game are all
cores from BB Team. And we've seen more and more shards on the Undying, especially Kataomi.
I like it here. I love it. He's been buying it in any game, but especially in this one,
there's the side, there's the roar, winters, curse, everything. They already have so many
good things available and with the two shards that they bought you know that means one of the
course could even get a charge for themselves or just the boomerang
which it will be. They will be quite happy about that. You have like you have physical damage
and you have magic damage and you have overall damage and from the undying they lose their top
tier one tower but it is it is like this is not how you want to play Necro. Necro he wants to vacuum
the entire wave with Radiance Travels.
He doesn't even have Fusel's Travel as he had to deviate his item build.
Kiritich has got his bear now, his baseball team ready to push even more.
And Aegis online for another two and a half.
No rush for BB Team.
Absolutely not.
Gonna put his wisdom shrine again.
He's got the axe available on the loan.
So Kiritich can just take the bottom shrine.
They actually find a connection on the XM.
just creating a little bit of space that can steal his badminton.
Oh my god!
The first damage is absurd!
Koyle still expended onto the Beastmaster.
A nice burst, there's a lot of damage on the X,
and the roar comes up from last solar.
Hit by Tsuzo, he grabs his ally,
and this is just looking not remotely close.
Double kill for GPK.
Looking for Shiro on the backside is the only member of Vici able to get away at this point.
And GPK picking up his shard and base.
He just picked up a 21-minute shard at the enemy fountain.
At this game, like, without throwing any shade, it looks like they're kind of smurfing on leechy gaming,
and this is not an easy thing to replicate by any means.
BB Team are there just owning everywhere.
Like, look at this kill on XM! It's basically, it's save and coil.
That's it!
Dark Shooter into Crush.
Boom.
GPK actually getting that one.
That was like, this was a good connection, though.
The curse into the Eventually Roar, great layering, but you see the Soul Rift, the Tombstone, just too much.
They really, they need this Orchid on gmq, it is one of the small ways you can potentially
come back, you can maybe force other defensive fuels and like snowball through, catch him
on the way down, or maybe you can Orchid the undying while the fight is going, cause then
actually you would get a kill, but yeah Habibi Squad, they are demolishing them in this game.
Yeah for sure.
And as caretach, he's starting to wake up because he has agonim scepter so his bear can do his
You're looking for a random crush, not able to find a connection, but they do find the coil onto Y.
And it's Kat the Omni is there. Borswak actually hits from safe. He has been all over the place.
My number one support, by the way. Just saying.
I'm with you. All of the guys good.
Well, you were disagreeing with me yesterday.
I am on safe. He's 8-0. I love this guy. He's one of the best players in the world.
We had a literal argument on stream.
You said best eyesets like top 3.
Yeah, I think he's the best.
He's always there.
Let's see, let him talk today and tomorrow with his gameplay.
No, I don't know how do I do this.
Yep, same.
Most of them are doing pretty well, as we could also get a very mini scoreline in the 3-2-2
if the BB Squad team could get another kill onto the board.
That's one thing we can look forward to in this game, as BKB picked up by Miara.
Okay, Smoke, purchased by Jinkyu.
Might want to look for, well, a big reveal here on the Orchid.
surprised someone. Yeah, they're gonna need a lot more than that. Oh yeah. I mean the
problem is you have Kim Stone to save. As we've already seen, Miero looking for the
opening onto XN. Y is there with a snowball, doesn't mitigate that much damage.
Healing up nicely. BKB. Neck are close. Actually focusing on the Tusk. For now, the
bash comes out into the crush. Goodbye XN. Goodbye Y. Double kill from Miero and
beach ball team they're gonna get I mean this is absurd right now just say
that we missed the 322 by the way really unfortunately I was like a two
second window yeah because the XM he he doesn't seem like a hero at the moment
it is so difficult for him to play into these dying heroes too many problems
magic damage physical damage he needs he needs a man to he needs a she was going
he needs travels and you don't have the space to find the gold
Let's see, who gets gold like first this game from the BBD BobbieD squad? Probably the same.
Wouldn't mind seeing him rack up another kill here on the hood wing.
Looking for another connection here, Meryl heading to the north, which is actually where Shiro is, but he's able to TP out in time.
Rack that they're even close to this is kind of crazy. I mean, just no space at all for BG to find any levels of farm.
and black bear team, I mean speaking of the bear, finally getting online and this
is when things start to get even crazier because they've been doing this we
said that literally the same thing yesterday they've been doing this mostly
without this loan druid and honestly they're base push later like if they
want to force they absolutely can you have the bear, you have soul reps you
can drop a tombstone, you have a solar crest on safe who's currently queuing up
of lads as well you know just all the little types of buffs and armor and
physical amp you can pump into your bear.
See what Vici are up to here, looking for a smoke.
Overall,
EB team have done a very good job when it comes to the map, like only giving up three kills.
It's not that Vici aren't looking for them.
They have a winter wyvern with an orchid, a tusk with a blink dagger, and a desolator on their planks.
They might run into the bear.
Can I even kill the bear though? It's the question of this...
Oh they can try but if there's any counter play...
It feels like they would need to expend a good amount at this stage of the game and then you just resummon it.
Like you're not really gaining that much.
It's a big chance that Vici might just wait for the BB squad to potentially overplay onto them in the map.
And Shiro can look for him.
The real hero?
Yeah.
Might not look like a real hero with a single branch in his inventory.
I think Heritage may have spotted that some camps were dead that just respawned around his bear.
Substantially no enemy. Look at his farm speed, that is impressive.
You think he's even looking at that hero?
Honestly, it's at this point like longer it has to be one of the best farmers.
And like Naga Siren, Alchemist and all of these heroes.
I also like that you can just get like the same neutral item of the same enchantment.
Like Nibble Serrated Shift is incredibly good to farm.
Yeah.
So of course the rest of the boys in the team will, you know, rack up their greedy enchantments.
So Blink on Gen Q is what he currently has, is eyeing up.
You also get a Blink on Y, so you at least are getting a little bit of mobility on the supports here.
I mean, I wonder what Bak is going to buy.
Saving a lot of gold on the Beast, maybe just like a straight up AC.
I think that could be quite good.
I try to just overwhelm them with minus armor on the Deso and the Beast here.
Not often you see somebody with 4k gold in this position.
position. Yeah. Just goes to show you that, you know, you have to find those moments and
opportunities in the game to be creative. Maybe find some of those items that in other
games you would never entertain buying at this position, but maybe here you have to.
Yep. And you can see BB team just forming a map. They can go for Rosh any time they want.
And then that's when... That's the bear. ...the bear might be able to get life number one.
They will not. So that's the states that Vici Gaming are in right now.
In fact, you're just gonna go blow off the clink instead.
That is what a kill looks like, says BB Team.
And Ice Curse so off the buck with the Orc.
It follows a lot of damage.
Gets off the Eul's gonna dodge the snowball as a result.
The Tusk just drops as a random member,
three dead for Vici.
And very bursting team just continue the pressure here.
There are kind of just only through this entire map, right?
Like, Locke couldn't really connect, like XM as well.
And I don't even know if he really looked at this play.
He's just, you know, staying at top lane, trying to farm up, waiting for a better opportunity.
Definitely a bit of a misplay earlier, not having any detection against the bear, and then just getting counterplayed.
They're doing this without ages. They realize how ahead they are.
They're gonna force out the fortification.
You can try to force him all to base and then still play. You can play for Roche any time you want here.
We're gonna back away, play discipline.
Discipline
Which has been the thing I've been most impressed with the BB team is
They don't really throw leads all too often more if you go back
I mean, I know the roster is slightly changed but even just GPK alone
They had a propensity to do so like no other team
I feel like these guys have all improved massively not just individually, but I think as a team
And not just gameplay wise or like you're you know the skill
It's also like the mentality and what you're working on what's important in the game
When is the last time Vichy got a kill in this game? Like 10? 50 minutes ago?
It's been a hot minute and even the bear will count that as a kill at this point in the game.
This could be something. This could be an opening for Vichy.
There's Smoke down. You can see GPK popping the smoke on a couple members and DbKnGa play a little bit safe.
Wait for Richie to make a move, potentially.
So not in any huge hurry, don't want to take any chances for the bucket barfing team.
19k lead with the smoke.
Oh, good stun.
Well, Richie should be happier if Roach ends up going to the top side of the map.
I think maybe if you want to play with some Biobags or do something.
We have a smoke-on-smoke action.
They are dodging each other for now. I need to see where Vici go here. Are you going to go through the gate to like end up top?
Are they just waiting for some tormentor plays that like to go all the way around?
No, he does vouch. He does vouch. He's going to go to the top in 10 seconds as a double tap on the Y.
Holy Jesus, this is absurd.
Now, the creep for block, not gonna look too much longer. They hit the coil onto the single target.
It's a ghost truck, gonna keep him safe for now as XM. Starting to feel a little bit damaged.
They're gonna get the roar at the last moment, but this damage is just too much.
They are just dropping like flies. This is not remotely close. Gigi is called.
BB King, take it. 30-3 is the scoreline. Not remotely close.
No, that is a very unexpected stomp. Like from what we've seen from Beachy in the last couple days, they looked so good
But here I have to say I think there's a big outskill going on because I didn't mind the draft at all
But GPK putting on a show, you know the whole blockbuster team here kind of just showing up together winning all their lanes
Perfect movements giving up only three kills in 30 minutes
And I think XMG got outskilled in his mid lane
Yeah, I can't wait to see the highlights to see if there's a single kill from Beachy gaming on that because that is
Yeah, hard to watch if I'm being honest from the BB team side
7-0 for GPK God like 8-0 for Miero and 9-0 for the support hoodwink mr.
Say absolute beast mode activated for him
I'm just netting some kills and this is one of the signs of like a top tier team
They get an advantage and it's slowly they gets more and more once more play leads to the other
They do well in the offlane safe keep peace to the top lane they get a kill there somehow GPK is over playing in the mid lane
and it's all just leading into the next play. One of the more clean wins that I've seen in this entire tournament.
There's a kill for Vici. That was 33% of their kills. That was a 5-second clip.
That was the second kill at minute 7. In the next 25 minutes, they got one kill.
Yeah.
One.
Oh my god.
I haven't seen destruction like this in quite some time.
Not just making perfect use. And this team has been scary.
It happens at a lot of tournaments where BB teams just get a little bit underrated, a little bit underestimated of overall how good they are,
oh, you know, they're gonna get top four, someone's gonna tilt, not too big, son, not too big.
They're showing up in full force, that was incredibly clean.
Yeah, I mean, they've looked as good as anybody in this tournament, and I would argue to be the most consistent team at the tournament overall,
so on some level, can't be that surprised, but to the level, like, 30 to 3, I don't think we're gonna see that again this year.
I hope we don't shiver.
Same, absolutely same.
This was, I think, the biggest stop we've seen on this stage thus far.
Wow.
And there's also not entirely one of our souls, but my panelist,
I'm here at BSJN7, I was told it's going to be even game, it was going to be 50-50.
Wow.
I mean, I was pretty hopeful for the drafts, but I think the, the more we mentioned
Like the execution in the laning phase and what happened after the laning phase like they knew that we're gonna be walking a thin line
And I think they definitely slipped, you know, like there were a few moments where you're like, okay
The test is coming, you know, can they weather the storm can they like dodge this fight?
And I think they didn't like obviously massive props BB team as in they played a stellar game
It was pretty much perfection from
laning phase execution to applying pressure to rotations
They played extremely fast, deadly moves.
But I also feel like Vici gaming, like, I don't know,
I don't know if you, if you're really that Brian, like,
there were moments where you're like,
I don't know, maybe they're not warmed up or something.
Like it's not a little bit sloppy at times.
Yeah, I mean, I always try to teeter along the lines
of explanations versus excuses.
There is no excuse to, I think, show up like that for Vici gaming.
And I think, for me, at least there's a level of disappointment
because of how well they've been playing
throughout the last couple of days.
They did show signs of what we just saw in the group stage,
and that was why I thought they might go out a bit earlier.
But then all of a sudden, the vibe seemed there.
The execution was there against top tier teams.
It's not like they haven't been tested
throughout the course of this playoffs.
But that probably also makes me want to tip my hat to BB team
for they've done this to other teams as well.
So there must be something special about that.
I think for a game like this to happen in a series
of with two teams of this caliber,
one team does have to step up
while the other team has to step down, at least a little bit on both directions.
And I do think, man, that was a clean game from BB Team.
And, you know, it might be a bit surprising, but it doesn't worry me as much as, like,
a fair loss would have worried me.
I'm not saying this was unfair, but it's like they didn't get to play the game.
Like, there was a point where after they made several mistakes in a role,
the game is literally unplayable.
I feel like at this point, it's like, you need BB Team to make a mistake
or to overplay their hand, which we know this is not the team to do it.
This team knows exactly what the limits are.
They pushed the aggression exactly to the point where it's supposed to be pushed
and they don't take the single step forward beyond that line.
So in that sense, I feel like Vici at some point, it was just too much.
And the game was going in a direction that they couldn't stop anymore.
So I wouldn't call them out for game two is what I'm trying to say.
A flawless game for BB team.
On the other side, I do want to, I mean, okay, we can be critical on BG Gaming, of course,
because we are expecting a higher level of play than what we saw.
But the reason it was this one-sided is because BB Team,
they don't make mistakes.
They don't allow you to come back once they got a good lead like that.
And especially not with the draft they had as well.
And I think that just has to credit how well they were playing grind.
Any player in particular you'd like to highlight.
I want to highlight save, especially.
We were talking about like this the pace of
BB team's draft Slardar wants to farm it up Huck wants to farm it up
They all loaned dirt especially wants to farm it up all three of these heroes need a little bit of time to come online
And yeah as the casters were reading off those stat lines nine and no on a supported wink
It felt like he was a part of all so many of the crucial
engagements and like the early and mid game that allowed BB team to snowball and
There's just something about players like save that are just always in the right place at the right time and who to be an example of a
hero that yeah she has burst kill potential but she's so much about
catching people off guard flanking them and and there are a lot of instances of
that in this game and hats off to him but yeah obviously the rest of BB team
performed great as well. Yeah they really did now we talked about how Vici
gaming underperformed BB team incredibly strong we've got examples of both of
those situations starting with the the unfortunate underperformance for Vici
gaming I believe. Yeah so we were talking about it before the game started but this is a clip of
VTGaming basically making the type of mistakes that we can't afford to make in a series like this
so they get the curse off really nicely where the lone jerk bear is going to be hitting GPK
but then right after Bok Roars which then not only layers the stuns but also knocked the bear back
so that it wasn't attacking and killing GPK this is only a 3k lead of 13 minutes we've seen plenty
of games stall out from this moment and the team can level it out but that did
not happen in this game because that was great as you showed I think like this
was a kill on bot like honestly they were in the biggest skill they got the
entire game yeah it would it would have been like step one to making this a much
more even game and then you mentioned like stepping it up for for BB team this
is one of the coolest plays that I've seen throughout this entire tournament
so as we're gonna get to the Roshan I'm gonna pause in just a second here
because it takes a second. Okay, so at this moment, every team in the world has like this
idea of when the enemy kills Roshan, they're then going to be traveling across the map
and looking to kill us afterwards. The BB team's going to do something really cool where
they're going to pause, they're going to have Miro leave, and then Kiritich is going to
wait to kill Rosh. He's literally just AFK'ing, so in their head, Fiji's like, oh, they haven't
left the Rosh pit yet, but no, Saif has already left, Miro's already on his way, and Shiro
then gets caught out of position so for me this was just such a small but like cool idea
that I've never witnessed the intentional stalling of killing Roshan and it those type
of plays are them stepping it up where that creativity and that sort of situation is quite
unmatched.
Yeah that's the team that's vibing.
I think these are signs of like a team that is just like so like on you know sink to each
other where like it's it's it's really quick it's like hey you know like you know second
And wait, we were not ready to catch, they stopped, they paused the rush, they killed,
save is using chat wheels, you know, because he's proud to also be feeling, it's the kind
of play that leaves you feeling really good.
It's like, oh, we're really out of our game, you know.
And yeah, you see the difference between them and Vici Gaming in that game one, where like
things that usually should be executed properly and that they have executed better than average,
like they have been stellar with their pace yesterday.
But I'll start to the day, you know, a warm up day, watch your face kind of situation,
I don't know, but this is definitely the...
It can happen, you know?
They're going to pay the price of now being put back against the wall.
One game away from getting knocked out.
But I...
They kind of did this to themselves.
Yeah, I wonder if it also changes in our perception
when we see Vici gaming...
Overlapping stuns is like...
It's a base level mistake, right?
There's...
On one side, you're going to try to play better.
It's the little things that you do right,
meaning I don't overlap sons, you know, it's a basic concept.
Whereas on the other side of the example that you gave, right,
it's the little things not just done right,
but done methodical and very promising.
The difference in the one mistake versus the one good play
feels very large.
And I wonder if that worries us or should worry us.
Yeah, I mean, I'm worried in the sense that, you know,
the point of showing those clips wasn't like,
Fiji gaming bad, BB team good, it's meant to, like,
It does give you a glimpse into the mindset.
Like you said, that you have to be a team that's vibing.
If you make a play like BB Team, they did the Roche bit.
I also think you have to be a team
that's a little bit nervous,
a little bit chaotic in the comms
to make the overlapping of stones that they did.
And I think that tells a pretty telltale story
of that game as a whole, just in those two clips.
I mean, to me, it's like showing the misplays.
And I would even maybe show the misplays
to my own teammates with a smile in a sense.
It's just to realize, hey, this game doesn't count.
If we're not able to kill heroes we're supposed to kill,
we create that situation, we're kicking our spells wrong,
and the heroes aren't dying.
Well, it's just an off-game, and it happens.
It's like, why would you keep that game on your mind
going into game two instead of keeping the series
versus Falcons, the series versus 1W?
Because I can promise you that to knock out both these teams,
they had to make not only just stable plays,
they had to make exceptional plays.
So in that sense, an off-game, it can happen.
It's behind you now, just move on, reset, remember how good you are, what brought you here in the first place.
And you know, get ready for game two, simple as that.
Yeah, we're really hoping that it is indeed an off-game, none-off day.
And we'll see if VG Gaming can strike back in game two of this best of three in the semi-finals.
So it is incredibly important, and VBT, of course, wants to have closer to those grand finals tomorrow.
Before we get to game two, though, we are going to check in with a couple of players who are doing the Remco Power rankings.
Hello everyone, this is Seb. I'm joined with BGM and RE. There's been many, many rosters,
in OG became a joke at this point.
We're going to remind ourselves some of them
and we are going to rate them on the tier list.
I suggest we pick one of them up
and we'll say who's on that team and we rate.
What is that?
TI 2021, OG.
I remember that!
Okay, okay. What rating would you give this one?
I would give it an A.
You would give it an A.
They were closest to beating King Spirit.
We were 15K lead on them.
And they had the same strats.
B is fine, yeah.
You agree on B?
Let's agree on B.
Yeah, he's fine.
Another one.
Are you shooting?
EWC 2026 OG.
Well, what do you guys think?
I would say...
I mean, they're gonna make it out of the group, so it cannot be high.
I do think the potential...
If I had to rate the potential, I think it could be B, I think it could be A.
Wow, C or D?
We can do C.
Results matter.
No result today.
OG, OG.
Okay, OG.
It's all smooth on you.
Moonminder, Miracle.
Miracle, No Tail, Moonminder, Crit and Fly.
This is like the Frankfurt Major winners.
A playstyle.
There will be an A.
Of course.
All right, one more.
TI7 OG.
I mean, I would put them lower only because they're comparing their competing spirit.
So they go on A.
One turbidol.
That's it.
Wait.
2020 OG.
What was that even?
That was with Saxa?
Need one.
Topson.
Sepp.
Saxa.
Okay.
That's the LA Major.
I'll give it a C.
I'll pick.
20-24?
That's that one.
Of course, we don't have any wins for our name,
but I do think we're better than the ones below us.
You know what, you know what?
I'll put us above.
It's the three of us.
What are they going to say anyway?
They're retired.
They're washed.
Like, nobody cares.
Then three-five.
Name the roster.
Oh, that's your first.
They're a chat.
A small scorer.
Mix a day's key back.
Mix a day's key back.
Ha ha ha ha!
Thanks.
I'm so happy about that one.
2022!
Your rugby is the M, Plaga...
ATF Misha.
ATF Misha, yeah, that's a good one.
I mean, you stood in for one of the wins.
Yeah, I stood in.
But it was like roster.
You won two tournaments.
Yeah, you did.
So, you activated quite highly for the two wins.
Okay.
I think that's reasonable.
You got two wins, you got two wins.
We're missing two.
Just for the split.
So, what did you say?
This was the strongest penalty roster.
Yeah.
I guess what the best result said is when it counted.
In TI8, no. In TI8, this roster was stronger, and this roster was stronger, but this roster was more fit for pressure, in a sense, but TI9 was not in the top.
The guys just proved to be your last one.
2023?
We had no specific date.
Why do you have a laughing?
The only result from the last one was that we had no specific date.
We don't think so. It's a date.
Come on.
You just put it.
You have to scrub it like very badly.
It was.
It was a really rough one.
Yeah, it was bad.
Take a site on Trimbev.
This is too hard, so I'll do this.
This is my balance.
I think this looks fine.
Yeah.
Oh.
Great job this game.
Thank you.
I'm glad you're working with you as usual.
Great job, buddy.
That was it from us.
Hope you agree.
And if you don't, well, I mean, no more trying to deal with it.
Bye-bye.
Either way, you're done.
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Vici Gaming versus BB Team, game two coming your way and we've seen Vici Gaming as one
of the teams that has made large adaptations from the group stage onto this semi-finals
but they need to adapt more now than ever as that first game was not close.
BB Team ran away with that one and we're about to get into the drafts of game two
and there's one elephant in the room that I must address
because both my panelists said, well, you know what,
Loaner is overrated and then he got compared up with an undying.
You can't let that happen, Sam, please.
I mean, I deserve to be called up.
I, I, I disrespected the hero, but I'll stand my ground.
You know what? I'll stand my ground. I still believe Laundroid is, you know, this one is hard. Maybe I should have backed off actually.
I'll reflect on that for tomorrow, but for today I'll stand my ground. I do believe Laundroid will not be the, you know, highly, part of the first, you know, line of contested heroes for the Grand Finals.
the Grand Finals, but we'll have to see it look absolutely dominant in Game 1.
Maybe I am completely wrong.
I would be surprised if they don't readjust it for that game though, because it must have
felt that bad to play that game that you just want to play another game no matter what.
Yeah, when I was looking at the draft, like obviously the longer undying lane is about
as scary as it gets, the undyings and the SFs and all that kind of stuff.
But the thing for me is, I think that Slotar pick was relatively genius from BB Team when
There's been times, I think it's really important to note that there's times where people block pick and
We saw that yesterday from Nigma Galaxy where they block picked BB team with a puck
Because they didn't want GBK to get it on last pick, but they picked the puck into a shaman
So you're block picking in order you're making the sacrifice of
Basically picking a hero into counters in order to not get picked against you
But they also had slaughter into clings, which is a very good matchup for slaughter
So you're
simultaneously block picking while also counter picking at the same time and I just think those sort of things will
Absolutely, when you drafts on top of execution, I think the drafts were relatively even but that was for me the highlight
strategically, you think did it feel to you that
Necro was like comfort enough for witchy or do you feel like they were
you know, maybe
Like going for it because it made sense, but didn't feel you know good playing the hero
It was really tough to say because that one
rotation at the seven minute wisdom shine where he dies like we talked about
Necro being a vacuum of pressure in the mid lane and literally one play like
that can nullify that entire presence that you have suddenly GPK is like even
with you on net worth and so is that an individual mistake from XM is that a team
misunderstanding of Necro it's hard to say for sure like if it's just an
individual mistake to learn from that's fine but if it is like a team thing then
And I think it did look a bit off, I guess, would be my answer to your question.
But I do think that one, that one mistake says a lot about their understanding of the hero as well.
Yeah.
Did you get me to go back for something, you know, that brought them a lot of success yesterday?
Obviously in the cut-all, most likely to be played by ZinQ and BV.
I mean, they just, you know, keep, yeah, keep on the, like, keep on the Undying Train.
Like they remain there.
This hero has been incredibly successful, like every game we've watched it.
I don't think there's a single game where we were like, yeah, you know,
this Undying really got countered and it because they were metas where undying could also just be a burden like it
Just does nothing sometimes would even lose its lane and and then you're just there and you know all you do is just like
Tromp lining dying, you know eventually getting the tombstone off
It feels like a completely different hero right now
It's just so hard to deal with like it starts with the lane phase the early game presents
We've seen you know wisdom fights with tombstone like malady is probably the specialist of this one at every state
It gives you rush, also it gives you objectives with the flesh column.
This hero is just incredibly strong right now and I'm hoping that Vici Gaming will just put enough respect on it.
How important is it to have a Tombstone hitter when you're up against Undyne, even if it is a Pulse 5?
I think it's crucial. I think it's one of these heroes, like Phoenix for instance.
It's like you just can't ignore that spell. You just can't pretend, it's not just another spell.
especially now that they're willing to buy the shard early and abuse the save, which I think is like one of the best shards like in the game.
So in that sense, I think you always need to have a tombstone hitter. You also need to be able to take down the sundying,
you know, for free, we would say in a sense like without using key resources, because he's not a core hero,
but you know, we heard players complain about playing versus the nine, like we have to deal with four core heroes, because that's how it feels at times.
like he's just standing there in the front and you feel like you need to pick spells on him
but you don't want to use necro ulti for instance you don't want to use like certain items or
abilities so it's tricky yeah there's usually two options or i'd say three options for undying
is one is obviously be able to kill the tombstone two is be able to like force out defensive spells
without committing a lot like heroes like hudwing are a great example where you represent a lot of
long range burst that might need to be saved from before they even go in and then you also have
heroes like Storm Spirit that can go on the target and then easily disengage and that's what I think
they were going for is this poke and prod disengage strategy and then when you look at the counter
from BB Team, I think it addresses that mere flawlessly. You have the Shadow Shaman that they
already picked for save yesterday, the best is like him and Lion are the two best support
disablers against the Spirit heroes and then Ember Spirit also one of the hardest heroes to
disengage from. So it's like if I'm Storm Spirit and I'm thinking my job is to force out a reaction
and then disengage, what item am I buying? Like I think BKB is the only one that addresses both
of these. Some storms in the past feel like they have to go for grieves against the Ember Spirit
in order to dispel the chains and the Spirit Vessel and the Mage Slayer. But in this case, I think
already, I mean Storm has not had good results so far this tournament XM signature hero for him
for sure and also now you have like the terror blade that hits the tomb but
just something about this draft like obviously maybe it's a bit of bias
coming from game one but something feels like BB has the better answers thus far
what do you think so I mean yeah I see where you're coming from they have some
incredible heroes like you mentioned it like the Rasta versus Storm there's the
great synergy also between Ember and Largo we've seen that combo really
decimate like teamfights it's it's it's it's amazing but you know I I'm a
coddle fan at heart and like coddle storm is still like a menace in the early
game like this and dying this rasta like like where they can walk on the map is
going to be so restricted it's like the second you're like a little bit too far
away from a tower or like slightly opposition you just dead to storm like
you need your ember to be with you and hug you all the time to protect you
There's also the Colt of TB, which I think is like one of the strongest Colt combos like metas in the mid game
Metas gonna be up all the time
Like there's gonna be no downtime this TV is like acceleration and the farm is just gonna skyrocket because
Chakra magic TV elues like everywhere on the map shoving every wave into you with the threat of storm hood wing
Attacking you and making you pay for trying to deep push wave
So I think the Vici gaming draft again like so far
I've been a big fan of all their drafts
even though you know sometimes they didn't really pay off like I see where they're heading with this one too and it's quite interesting you talked about
Tombstone hitter TV is definitely one like you think of TV Montha like he's just hitting down everything that's close to him
Right, so this undying will just explode and and the tombstone will die all like we'll get taken down too
So but again, it's gonna be you know, you mentioned it Brian like they have this early game presence on BV and they can cause a lot of issues and
Could it be a repeat of game one?
It's not impossible if you look at the heroes.
It wasn't really up to the heroes in the previous game, though, per se, right?
It was also a lot of outplay.
It was, but you kind of need to have the tools to push your advantage, in a sense.
And I feel like they have it this time around again.
Like, this Ember, Lorakho, on-dying, line-up, it can accelerate really fast.
What do we make of this Night Stalker overall last week?
we've mostly seen it as an answer to the puck. Is it as strong of an answer to the Shadow
Shaman member?
It'll definitely make Shadow Shaman's job a lot harder. He is a support that relies
on catching somebody and then the difference between him and Lyon is that he's channeling
his long disable. So I see what they're going for with it. It is blind and to cure a titch
his hero. You're also, I guess, an undying off lane. You're probably going to play some
lane shenanigans. I think the cool thing about it is that once five minutes hits, you're
probably not going to have too bad of a start. You're probably going to lose the first five
minutes for sure but then you're gonna be relatively self-sufficient because most
on dying lanes operate on chase potential and obviously Night Stalker one of the
most innately fastest heroes in the game once night time hits. I'm wondering if he
goes for like the carry to carry matchup counter like a Phantom Lancer for
instance for Keratich or if he's gonna go more like shut down the Night Stalker
and play off the momentum that they're already representing in the other lanes.
Do you have a preferred approach? I'm just I think he's it's very okay he goes for
something a little bit more active I guess with the Rune Ranger which also is
considered like a good matchup against tb until a point anyway like you just
have an overwhelming amount of magic damage and just take down the tb
especially with the help of like Largo and dying like they have so much like
sustain and save on on db side I like the nice soccer pick I think it
it's it entrails really well did she line up I'm just afraid of the matchup
which is on dying because on dying has always been considered one of the best
night soccer corners in the game because of you know the night vision you get
from Tombstone and all of a sudden you know there's like zombies everywhere
every hero you can keep track of everybody I also think that it's even
though Nightstalkers in a great place as a hero there's like these this essence
distiller item which I think ruins Nightstalkers game completely like you
essentially they also have your vision like the night vision for eight seconds
which is very unfortunate if you're an ennis and joyer so what happens yeah I
think it's a risky pick like it makes a lot of sense it could really it could
It worked, but it's, um, it's brave.
Oh, it's brave.
That is, uh, not really a convincing answer.
Let's put it that way.
I mean, bravery is good.
No, isn't it?
It's worked out for them, like with the Slark pick yesterday and stuff like this.
I mean, I think we, the sad reality for me at least is I think there's
potential of a rerun of game one, like the snowball effect of BB team's draft
is immense based on the heroes that they have.
They have a very similarly paced lineup, but if Vici can get past that first 10 minutes on even footing,
I think they have a lot of good map play. They have the vision game from Nightstalker.
And I'll just give a shout-out. The Tombstone Night Vision got nerfed a little bit at some point,
so it's not at least... Maybe the essence is that the distillers still counters you,
but at least you have the vision... I hope you have the vision advantage coming from Vici,
because then the storm can also jump, and at the end of the day, I'm a Vici fan right now,
because I want a game 3 in this playoff sheet, and they're yet to have one.
I'm a believer you know you go back to the TI finals, you know the washer face meme
It's like it started off this way and they brought it to game five and it was incredibly close, so
And I think you got this we all want to believe but let's find out a beachy gaming ski
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Hey, that was not a good game one. We're just gonna be straight with you here
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Lost this badly. I've always had either four kills or more. So GG get 33 minutes with three kills
I'm expecting a better game this time around
It literally has to be, unless it's not a given.
I think it is.
We're going to see a better game number two here between Vici Gaming and BB Team.
And remember, whoever wins this series goes to the grand finals, loser goes to the third
place decider.
Yeah.
Nobody wants to be there.
No.
That's the toilet bowl match.
We'll be casting that, so it's going to be a perfect cast for us.
Perfect cast.
Just right down our alley.
But the thing is, you don't want to be in that position, you want to punch back here
if you're Vici.
I am a little surprised that they let Kataomi have Undying again, for I don't know how many
times this guy has played the zombie in this tournament, but he does seem like one of the
best Undying players.
Yeah, it has been quite solid.
It's been a big move with the Wisdom Shrine.
Yes.
It feels like every single time it's this hero, regardless of the team.
It's for the Alipd script.
Absolutely.
Walk to the Wisdom Shrine.
Malady started it and, uh, well, Katta only trying to finish it here, at least for this series.
On the Undyne, we're gonna see some new picks, though. We see Miero picking up the Largo.
He's been, I wanna say, one of the most consistent Largos in, I mean, since the hero's been in captain's mode,
I feel like I rarely see him have a poor game.
Uh, GPK on the Ember Spirit, and Karatich on the Windrunner, as the carry.
They both teams have a very good draft. I would assume that what we're going for this time around,
So I like Caudal against Undying. You can kind of split the lane, right?
You can always just push. Undying wants to run you down your super high movement speed yourself with the Caudal.
And Caudal drafts generally don't play on high commit, right?
Like what Undying is very good against, he has very good teamfight with the Tombstone.
If you commit, he saves, but Caudal has a lot of heals. He's very fast.
You can like maybe bait the Tombstone, maybe go on someone, you know, back up your storm with mana and keep going.
So I like their approach here. Zinc, you know.
It's taking a lot of decay damage and the right clicks from characters. That's first blood already going away of BB team
But a good start for them and they're against block on the nice dock
Which is for me the topic of discussion. Yeah, because not to sound like a broken record
This hero is either
Setting the tempo and getting locked to a good mid game or it's just trashed the whole game
Which are we can see I I hope that we're gonna see a good game the good thing for them is so like and how
Vici have won games in the past couple days. It's like early aggression and very good map play, right?
When you have Night Soccer, you have crazy vision in the mid game, DB fixes your lanes, and Caudal deals with your cooldowns.
And there's also a world, I think, where Night Soccer can build like a somewhat earlier shard in the mid game.
If you get Chakra Magic, you have like AA we on, you know, on your void, which is quite good.
But yes, definitely a hero that can be shut down early on.
Alright, where would you rate the Caudal pick versus other games?
You usually see it coupled with like the Beastmaster, you talked about the Void, it's okay.
He's here obviously quite decent just to get the mana back and then Metamorphosis, which is essentially his ultimate, but not an actual one.
I still think it's very good, right? You're playing with Storm and with TD.
So you have two very good maps up there. You can see that XM is taking a lot of pressure.
This time around, doing a lot better though when it comes to the CS.
Currently having a slight lead here under the knives.
Cheryl. See the shackle onto Cheryl taking a ton of damage as Miro can't quite finish it. Nice pushback coming up from Y.
Cheryl obviously with... I mean this hero picked because of the high armor gain that you're gonna have throughout the entire game,
but magic damage is a pretty damn good counter and I'm looking at their life.
Do you think that they have enough to burn through this guy?
Winter Ranger has a lot of magic damage quite early on, right?
Once you have like Maelstrom or later with some Njolnir BKB.
Also, Ember Largo is a crazy good congl, also need to remember that Largo
Ember fights a lot of magic damage which is very good against TB, especially in the mid-game.
So we'll have to see what Shiro can get because later you will need an MKB this game to deal with this heritage Windranger.
Looks like BB Team will get both lotuses on each perspective side of the map.
Well, this bottom lane is quite a disaster. I do think that is an adequate description currently.
They pick Nightstalker very late in the draft, knowing that you're gonna go against Undyne, which feels just bad.
I guess there's something else I'm missing here.
So the thing is that obviously Night it is, you don't have facets anymore and you don't choose at its lifetime to start the game.
And save, just take a little bit of pressure, so you're supposed to lose in the first 5 minutes, it's okay.
The problem is there's a difference in losing and then there's getting demolished.
And this currently is a little bit over the top.
And of course also Kiritage had the first blood.
As the Art Pressuring buff.
Yep, he's off the crippling fears, he runs scurries behind the tier 1 tower,
still only 8 CS to his name thus far,
which Jinkyu you can see is almost the same in this lane.
We'll need to see how they go about it, because Naitsoka will always give you a lot in the mid game.
If you have other cores that you can play around, you're still very useful, right with the silence and the evolution you're giving.
This feels so bad for Faith Beyond, although creeps are going to be under his tier 1 soon.
Mm-hmm
And they're gonna be soft enough by this illuminate
That's still a lot of the nice
This is another couple of CS at ease because when you get nice like when you play nice okay, and it hits early nighttime
You want to be like kind of close to your face boots or like have some double bracer
But he only is getting his boots and he's a low HP
Accent making little damage here on the GPK although accent the one taking the front of it nice pushback
Rotation coming out from wide the slide up is some GPK is he now on the run getting slow to a crawl though
That's going to be enough, Gen Q getting the kill there, but that means Bok all alone which
means that Katoma can just go absolute ham on another decay to this name and
should be able to finish it off with another. If you actually dive here, yeah, power shot from
afar, here it hits, beautiful aim, and that's just putting more pressure on Vick beyond to try
to get back in this game. It is nighttime now, so hopefully for his sake he can try to stabilize
his game, but this is an atrocious start. Yeah, they can look for a bit of counter
pressure now potentially. I think you though, very aggressive to kill the core. Yeah, he's
just dead. Straight up dead. Tombstone plays from Cat to Omi, so faith be on, gonna get
some solo XP, but see how much he can do with this nighttime being on his side now. I actually
wish that the facet, I hope we just started with nighttime. Yeah, maybe like... Oh, that's
He gets the tombstone.
Definitely a big recovery, but I have to say
that the battle bots in the bottom lane are getting way too much.
Like some of the kills they're getting.
It also means, again, when you have such good on laning stage,
you're on dine, can move around.
You can also look into the triangle.
You're playing against a Caudo.
You're gonna have a tombstone later.
You can potentially aggress into the triangle as well.
XM even with the help they give him, he's not level 6 yet.
Right into the TP, they get the hex into the shackle.
Is there enough damage with the decay?
Not quite. Searing changes there.
And the remnants actually are enough as XM
Still not leveled, he was literally one creep from six.
And that would have been enough for him to get away, surely, but instead, he has to make the walk back of shame.
That is rough in the mid lane.
Yeah, and not just that. Look what GBK is throwing on the minimap.
Six-minute active rune on the haste, you have, I'm dying, you know, the script at minute seven,
it's gonna be executed on the Wisdom Shrine, and Storm, he will not have a TP.
It will be up, like, five to ten seconds after the Wisdom Shrine is available.
Can you ask for a better game on Ember? You're getting kills, you're getting first to
Broom, and now you're dragging a wave into a double stack.
Yeah, this is dirty.
I'm believing blisters are off to yet another good start in this game number two.
Nature, you're gonna have to find a way to somewhat stabilize, or else they're gonna
find themselves in similar position to the last game.
They're looking for their own pressure, so now it's important how do the BB Squad react
to this.
Because if you know that Katomi will take the bottom wisdom frame on his own, you can
and TP everyone to the top side.
Yeah, and they are attempting to contest as Meryl inside,
he's gonna end up getting it for free.
And Kat only gets the other one,
so yet another game where BB Team
get both Wisdom Shrines and Beach,
I mean, you can't even blame them,
but you have an off-laner,
what is Nightstalker supposed to do
in a Wisdom Shrine fight?
He has to get back and get it on.
Potentially, you definitely need to find a way
to maybe have, you wanna aggress on one side,
And once you can kind of see the idea of where are they bringing which type of fears to find an outnumbering?
Because you are now gonna lack levels on both your supports and both Storm and Naisaka.
They don't have the most damage on themselves. They need Hoodwing level 6. They need Caudal level 6.
So this is very very big here for the BB squad.
And are we looking at similar situation when it comes to the Roche?
It looks like a worse lineup by a long shot than last game.
It's still on BB's favor, right? Undying will nearly like undying and Saga is one of my favorite role-shaking heroes
Of course with like Ursa, Windranger also quite good with the Maelstrom
And KBK actually gets the regen, real man. His timing is impeccable
And Baldi's Bison still able to get all these little trades left and right
They are at least doing a very good job when it comes to Shiro's net worth and honestly the scaling for Vici is not weak at all
I can see TB you know be the big guy in this game if later on you get to stand your ground with like an MKB and
Hidden to the Windranger you will of course do very very well, and you have a Kato to back you up
You're gonna have the vision from the Nightstalker the only thing will be getting there and then still playing into the ember Largo
Combo which is incredibly strong heritage focus fire in this tier one tower
box still level five
Michael will do too much, he will be freshered out by Cat on the head again, GPK is going to join the party and ensure that this tier one doesn't track the ball.
It's like the overall macro movement is very very solid for a PDT. While they're hitting this bottom tier one tower with a lane ward, GPK is moving over, he has a remnant in the mid lane, save his stack in the triangle, and Miro is farming so safe, there's no counter play on this Largo.
So everyone isn't able to do the exact play that they want to go for
Well, if they be honest thinking right now, why did I pick nightstar?
Who convinced me of such
Such a thing he does have his dark ascension now. Mm-hmm. Well, he has always been a player who reminds me a lot of
You know in terms I would say is I and him and like maybe I size eyes these players are incredibly good with low network
You know, even though they're shut down, they're very capable of making correct calls, understanding one of the few openings in the game that you can go for.
There it is.
It gets opened up on by XM to get the crippling pier right on top of them as well.
This would be an enormous kill for Vici, and it looks like they'll find him in the end.
Nice shackle to delay it, but it's not enough.
So face beyond on the board with that kill.
There's gonna be a lot more that came from.
Oh, that's a big one. And you still have Dark Ascension to play for any of the next fights if you want to.
This will be another active rune off course for the PB squad as they have pretty much full mid control.
Alright, that GPK is continuously pushing in the lane, getting the active runes.
Haven't of course talked about the Nero Largo yet.
Gonna need to get some levels up for the probe to then help all GPK.
Let's see if they can get this tower. You know the threat of the Dark Ascension might be good enough.
We have some action mid, it's going to be a shackle and a pre-kill onto Y.
And a siege is still alive here, as you can see BB Team trying to finish it.
Fortification comes out from Vici, but it doesn't look like from our perspective they're going to try to defend it.
They aren't just taking the 1 for 1 trade at the moment, of course this is better for the BB Team squad.
They have a vessel flying out which is great against the Caudal heels.
And once you take an early enemy mid-tier one tower, I mean, GPK already had all the runes, now it's even easier.
Very, very hard to contest that deep into the river this early on.
And a group up towards the top for BB Team, save level 5, so actually just hit level 6.
I'm going to be surprised to see the Serpent Wars place right here.
Well, to go back to the roach that you talked about earlier, Undying and Rasta has always been a very good combo.
Right, you kind of... I'm dying once to take teamfights and Rasta kind of forces you to either take it or give up an objective 4-3.
Yeah.
So very, very nice support duo.
And the arrow.
Gonna be going for the Meteor Hammer build.
And his GPK forcing Y out, has the Spirit Vessel applied, XM just slowing him up though, so it can't pursue any further.
It's not a kill, but look what he's doing on his own while he's pushing back two heroes in the mid lane
Why doesn't have any resources? This will mean again active rune will be yours and they're currently looking for a smoke
The fuck has a decent read but remember that in this daytime. He doesn't really see much. Yeah, now slow it up a bit
Shackle not gonna hit, but they get the connection and they're gonna get the easy kill
So yet another one for BBT I bet the lead is not growing that much in their favor, so that's good news for beachy
It's not reminiscent of last game at all, which is good.
Especially considering that they did lose a double wisdom shrine early.
They are doing a good job.
GQ also now with the Holy Locket completed.
That's can never count out a TB, especially a TB caudal draft.
More illusions, less cooldown on the metamorphosis.
So definitely eyes on Shiro and his network.
XM working on his Witchblade right now and for Shiro, which we haven't really talked about
too much, has his Yasha working towards the Mantis style, so nothing too crazy.
And it will be a blink first for Bok, and only a couple hundred out for that.
Jada this?
I feel like that is when they need to really imprint something in this game, especially
especially I mean crippling fear against GPK that's probably one of the main reasons that they pick the night stalker
Now that the blink will be very good
But you do need to get some stuff going with that because it does hurt your scaling
You're not going some echo saber that helps you hit creeps. You're not getting you know a mitre as it helps you keep scaling
But once they have the blink they can absolutely look for a couple of moves
Maybe with the witchblade and the solar bind combo
And we're seeing a smoke from big brownie team
So do you see the blink now picked up from Bok? See if you can put that to good work
GPK leading the way it's the 14-minute timing again
If Vici are available, I don't think they're team fighting is that weak right yet heels
You have some dark ascension flies gonna be spotted first a dark ascension uses Bok comes in with a crippling fear looking to finish off
Why they're gonna be close and she became looking to do that
But you'll find it eventually but they get the hex and now they get the shackle and the pocus fire block is dead
Searing chains now on to Shearer already in half health.
You have to play around a bit because of the Sunder potential.
So in the end the support actually did live, but again.
Vape Pion is the one suffering the consequences.
It was good counterplay, right?
BB Team, they were around already.
There's so many people you want to stay on top of here as the Nightstalker.
If you're not staying on Nero, he keeps giving them heals or maybe Mooseweed.
If you're not staying on Kataome, there's a Tombstone.
You kind of have to follow Save as well.
It looks like that was perhaps a bit rushed. They do need Shiro to be around, or at least a Solarbind with XM to get dish out any follow-up damage.
And this is a big moment on the map. This is like 80 seconds on Full Starc ascension and meta, where the Boba team can just go ham.
GPK has a Spirit Vessel going for the Mage Slayer next.
And I guess we haven't really talked about the items from BB Team too much yet.
Karatich has the Maelstrom and will be the full Mjolnir first for him.
I love these players that just queue up like 20 items in there.
Looks like they get a little desegatoro style.
You just kind of know what you want.
You can always just press whatever you want anyway.
And Mjero opting for the Lotus as his first main item after this Meteor Hammer.
So good reflection for the... well a lot of spells I suppose.
It's honestly very good, especially against Solar Binds, you can also screw around with the Sunder later, which they definitely may be needing.
But Vici is still very much holding on nicely when it comes to the game.
And I do also like the Largo Wind Ranger combo, you know, out of a lot of carries.
This is out a lot of magic damage, which is quite good with Largo as well.
Same with Mooseweed, another hero that uses it very nicely.
Damage room from XS. See how aggressive they want to be here. I assume that the next item for R'Bok is going to be the BKB, indeed that is the case, but he is just so under farmed, it is crazy.
Yeah, you can see Jin Q is just shadowing him in the farm right now.
He is suffering, the only thing is that at least what is good for them is that his 4 is a Kodol. So you know the net worth you're kind of lacking, Kodol can make out for it.
We're looking for a player around the mid tier one, we'll find the Observer Ward, and
remember also that they are of course playing with Nightstalker, so the vision should overall
be in their favor.
Awkward, looking for an opening, not smoked up though, going to wrap around through the
Triangle as GPK would be an incredible kill for them, he's going to remnant now before
this even becomes an issue.
It's a very good scan, but you can tell that while the game has felt like that DBR in overall control,
Vici are currently finding a pretty good foothold on the map.
They were holding the mid lane quite nicely, now a lot of top control, triangle control as well.
And of course, anytime they keep scaling,
Shiro may soon overtake Kiritich here on the network department.
Seren chains into the power shot, more than enough damage for GPK and company.
I mean, deep boxing team, again, 8-2 advantage to start this game, but the network, not like last game.
Vici, at the very least, are keeping up in the farm department to some degree, and a lot of it is on the back of Chiro's Terrablade.
And they're going to use this opening to take out Roche, which then will help them to, of course, furthermore, take the map.
I'm going to see how Vici go about this, right? You have Dark Ascension, you have most of your spells ready,
and long fights could be quite good for you.
Caudo heals, you see everything with your knife saw,
but this is a big moment.
Smoking me, Pops, you're kicking all right into them,
into the potential.
Yes, he's gonna get crippling fear, Bob.
You should get help with the tombstone
to help him out here,
this already has the ages though.
Pops right back out and GBK is more than fine.
Getting slowed up a bit,
Katoumi with a nice decay.
In that flesh-gulling form,
as GBK completely resetting,
they might just leave Katoumi to his fate,
which is the death.
But if they get out with everyone else
He just auto spawns, thanks to that innate BB team, still relatively happy with this exchange.
Vici Gaming just did not have the damage.
They actually got to squeeze in the Roche kill right before the fight started.
And same with GPK, even if they rammed it off to a small lake out and the two stones saved.
That's what Vici can get out of this.
Honestly, if they get the midter one here as well, they should be quite happy with the overall affair.
That's what happened.
The Illusion is doing quite a bit of damage right now, and looks like they will indeed clean that tower up.
So Vici Gaming, even if the game, in terms of net worth,
How much damage can the BB Team do with this first Aegis of the game?
Can they apply a lot of pressure, or is this more trying to get farm outside of the map?
It definitely uses to close out the map a little bit, maybe a tier 2.
I would say one of the first things on your list should be the Tormentor,
and then also any moments where, you know, it's going to be 9x on minute 20,
if you get the Dark Ascension out of Faith Yan,
of course it's always going to be a very, very big way and a very big cooldown that you can't play around.
Here it is, all in a shack, a lot of two!
As XM coming to try to help out, the support has already dropped.
Here it is, looking for the secondary in the form of Jin Q.
If he had a lot of damage that would illuminate, doesn't have to be careful, doesn't want to burn this first life of Aegis, might not have a choice though.
So XM gets the trade, could wait for Aegis, not the worst.
Absolutely not, they will take that.
Jin Q was quite lucky there, just before this play, he unlocked his level 10 talent with the blinding light Miss Chance,
Which we'll have to see later.
Something, something, something we'll have to talk about.
Because he missed a lot of attacks in this play.
It's like an 85% miss chance.
Yeah, that's true.
What a beautiful Shackledo.
Didn't have to give up the Aegis.
Because it kind of looked like initially maybe he just cleans up two heroes on his own.
Now the focus fire onto the Tier 2.
Surely Vici will try to defend this if needed.
It is not.
Pull me on there for Kiritich
And GPK he does have an arcane rune at the moment
Yeah, but 20 minute mark approaches the tormentor on the menu. It looks to be a free one
Well, GPK is very strong right now right with this mage layer and the vessel. It's more annoyance rather than high damage
It's called always has like a pretty stable and slow mid-gamer on like a 20 to 30 minute mark
If it's a drag out five years
Karnakonda!
How would you rate this shard? I feel like it's okay. It's not that great
But it's you're happy having it you can get a bit more scale a bit more gold push on waves
50 second cooldown I didn't realize that that's pretty long. I mean I guess of course got the Omen already had this shard
Yeah, I mean it was either that or
Who's the third in that worth? Is it Largo? Probably Largo. No, it's GPK actually
Honestly, the Ember Shrine is nice, but even if you don't have the Agonis yet, it's not that incredible.
Okay, 21-minute wisdom shrine, definitely the script that PBR are looking for here.
That team's done already plays, they're ready to go,
Kandama's already had his feet blocked, he's going to jump right on top of the Embers
Spirit, but the lick is there to save him and now blocked.
Just getting destroyed, that is way too much damage.
They trade the Undying for a Night Stalker, GPK though getting pressured by Shiro, quite
a bit of damage and he runs back in and is absolutely punished.
As Vici Gaming, they get more than three kills in this game, already good sign from them.
No, incredible. Definitely a little bit of a mess up, right? Just going to the wrong remnant, but also Kataomi, you know, walking in quite aggressive in there, drops to Tumson, but TV, he doesn't care.
And I think this is why eventually this could be a very, very good TV game. If you can just hold your ground, like at this point, you're not only going to shred the Tumson, but look how fast Kataomi dies here.
Yeah, I feel like it was just a matter of time before. I mean, surely teams are watching the replays that BB teams participate in, because they're doing the exact same thing every game after the 7, 14, and 21 minute market feels.
And finally punishing this is a rare mistake from TK, and as a whole, the Kini Bottom team
lose this fight.
It was very, very important here for Vici, but they have a small lead now in the game,
and I have quite high faith when it comes to the overall course, because Bogg, this
was a fight right before his BKB.
You know, next time around if that fight happens again, with half HP, he can get his BKB off,
and it's not that easy for the BB squad to stand their ground.
No Spark goes in, gives vision to everyone, there's a storm zipping, suddenly fight TB
illusions and a matter is running at you. Maybe you save someone with the tomb, but then what?
It's not like they committed anything. Yeah. Good signs from Vici.
And the Aegis was burned relatively early into the timer, so it's going to be this kind of awkward
silence, if you want to call it that, this awkward period in between as VKB. Who was that?
that they just picked it up.
Should be Bok.
Right, he's getting it.
XM also just finished it.
So, and it's again, it's this type of game
where in the mid game it matters a lot
when you think about it.
Who's getting like more impactful items?
You're getting a double BKB on Bok and XM
whereas if you look at like the BB squad,
they're getting like way more defensive.
I'm like, obviously Pi can help you.
The next item on GPK is quite far away, same for Miero.
So while BKB can be seen as a defensive item
for Nightstalker and Storm,
It's what allows them to play so aggressively.
They have the Lotus now for Miro and the Shard, so crazy combination for him.
I definitely need it. Right now you have multiple Lotuses.
You can also proc up not yourself but also one of your other cores
and you need this influx of magic damage, especially against the Shiro TV.
It feels like the first time in quite a while that we've been casting Breaking Bad Team
where they have met some resistance.
It has been just snowball after snowball.
And Vici definitely figuring something out in between game one and two here.
Yeah, definitely a trick to see how the BB squad want to kind of deal with the state of the game.
Because while TB is very strong and he will outscale a windranger absolutely for sure,
we've seen what Alargo and Ember can do.
When they have a drag-out fight with Prokofgenius and they're just floating around there's some catalysts. There's a abundance of magic damage
Interesting radiance for Bob
Potentially, I guess he would use that for a little bit and then turn into a nullifier
Yeah, as soon you definitely can evasion is quite good. I do feel like also there could be other items that are quite nice
maybe even like
And AC but I guess at this point you can kind of just buy whatever you feel like it's necessary
Gonna threaten the tier two tower at looks like BB team don't really want to do too much about this one
And again, it's a TV call. So it's not like you're committing a hefty cooldown
Yeah, you just keep putting down the CD. Maybe it was like a 30 to 40 second downtime if you just keep pumping it in there
I think they've definitely slowed down a bit, which I think...
I actually don't know if that favors BG does it, because this Nightstalker feels like he
wants to be active all the time.
It... as long as they are getting map control, which they are, I don't think they mind at
all.
He'll be fine.
Sure, he's not like high up on the net worth, but again, I think we need to look more at
the combo of him and the portal, because Jinkyu has quite a lot of net worth in this game.
He's got a loaded, he's got a holy locket, now working on the agonist scepter, at least for now.
Hold some people more in place, keep yourselves more team-fied.
He's definitely picked up the slack as...
Yeah.
I think that's one good thing about having a position 4 that can actually farm.
Caudalty, we've seen him as core, right?
So, definitely not outside of the norm.
And we know what Jinkyu can do with farm.
One of the builds of the boss 4 is when it comes to using your net worth aggressively.
And Scotty online for Shira.
So he is starting to pack a punch, finally.
That's like now he's strong and very tanky and mind you know there's a 20 stick
There's a car behind him. There's anti-team fighting with the night stock
We're constantly get all the vision that you want
I'm just kidding this TV from 4 to 0 is really not easy for the radiant man
You need to stick on that guy for quite a while if your courage and until you have a BKB
I don't see how that's gonna happen. Yeah
Still a recipe away for courage
We'll be a pretty early Roshan spawn, so while I think that Shirou is very strong now with
the Skadi right, Fulissol right, he's a TV with Pop Network, when he gets his next item,
which is the MKB against the Windranger, Shirou has to pay a lot of attention to how you
play around his TV, because if you walk in, you are dying incredibly fast.
Out of two, two is going to go the way of Buchi Gaming, and Bok going to open things up onto
the frogman, had the Lotus applied, but they have the damage, along with XM going to get
The double electric vortex matters not, Bob gets the kill.
The Vici game and getting some nice momentum, inviting Brontosaurus team again.
They have not been put in this position very often this tournament.
No, not really. And now, you know, they're bleeding a little bit on the Goldlead.
Down 3k gold, because you also have very nice wards overall from Vici on the map.
One on the bottom gate, one mid lane ward, and this top lane ward at this spot of Miero.
On the start of this play. And when the map turns into this, it is incredibly annoying
to play against the strap, right there's all the maps are pushed in if there's
one night so I could see you in nine times the swarms it's over just like that
and more pressure with the illusions shiro demon zeal they're actually gonna get another
power going their way and this is without roche on their side is that every tier two
yep absolutely beachy mounting a comeback after that game number one debacle we can
You can call it nothing, but 5k lead now.
Looking quite good.
I feel a lot more comfortable, and I think it is how they beat all the previous teams.
1W and Falcons, they found like a nice draft with vision overall, mad play.
You have Ghost push and then like you abuse it to find a pick up into a teamfight.
Honestly, all eyes are now on the secondary roach in this draft.
BKB completed on Curitix, so you have a huge item finding.
Yeah.
for the BPD BobbieD squad here, whereas Vici, if they can delay, perhaps, until this MKB,
I don't think they would mind at all.
Of course it is a little bit away, but you form incredibly fast.
Yeah, the ratings is not too far off for Bok.
Just the Talisman away, GP Kagan, right into the illusions of Shiro, remanaining to the
high ground and won't find the target, though.
Not finding much, at least for now.
Looking into the pit, so build a double back and steam will try to go for this, Roche.
I was gonna use that one.
I love that one.
So they go for the Belch. I don't know if they're gonna be around in time,
because you definitely want to contest, right? You have nice talking, you've got the illusions to scout it out.
Yeah, it's gonna be close.
BG, small consumption.
Very close indeed. They zip it from XM.
But Kiritich gets the Aegis, pops the BKB as XM does the same.
Shaco!
Shaco onto the terribly!
Gang of a son of a... no!
The hex is there and Shiro takes the tumble.
And with that BB team, gonna try to chase out the rest of Vici.
Although now they're actually resetting.
So they get everything, the ages, and yeah, they got the Roche banner as well.
So everything going away at BB team.
Well, they needed that.
But this is... sometimes you have to go for somewhat of the higher risky place.
I think if you're Vici, you're gonna be highly kicking yourself
that you left the area with so much distance between you and PBT.
Like, by the time you get close by, they didn't even have vision yet.
Oh, wow.
Look at the shackle that's coming up.
That is so pretty from Terrizage.
Yeah, that's the scary part of having these illusions next to you.
More targets to get a shackle that is potentially game defining.
So, PBT punching back in this game number two.
Back into the shackle, focus fire will finish it.
Burnakane, yeah, that's a sexy snake right there.
It's Kiritage, definitely now, you know, with the Aegis queuing up with Daedalus,
can definitely turn around and kind of change the one-to-one matchup that he has going against Chiro's TB.
Yeah, it should be a little bit of a torment there, so that's going to be gale force for Kiritage,
because everybody else has shards.
Yeah, honestly, they'll be pretty happy about that.
It's just nice, especially against all the illusions, maybe push some of the people away.
So, BG, this is... most... you should know how you want to fight with a Naisoka, right?
You want to kind of go around, pop the Dark Ascension and start to fight Naiso yourself.
You don't really want to be the ones to get pressured first.
But I do have to commend BB Team for finding such a moment.
Still the network quite even.
BG Gaming, when the top networks in the game are basically interchangeable at this point
between Keratich and Shiro.
And I assume he's gonna have to go MKB at some point.
I think that is the case now.
Hey, they will have to wait for it.
It's the only way that you can deal with the Windranger.
Alright, so Radiance online for Bok.
Tell me what this does, man.
Obviously, Evasion is nice.
It allows him to farm, and then he can take it apart,
I assume, at some point, but right now he's going AC.
It's kind of nice to help you scale it a little bit.
Like, maybe get some of this more quiet time,
then later up, you know, just end with the nullifier,
like you're saying, so you can go to Radiance, AC.
I mean, evasion is still quite good, right, against the raiding draught, or most importantly, against the windranger.
I don't think any of the other stuff is really that important.
But it was a big deal, because Kyrgyz was about to play potentially into a TV who had an MKB with an Aegis.
Now suddenly you get to match the MKB timing with an Aegis of your own, and a near full Daedalus.
I'm trying to maybe poke at that tier 2 tower as we see a smoke coming up from bearded beaver
team.
And Jin Q is going to get run into, X, he's going to be the death of the old man and the
horse.
So he's not going to do anything with this because in the meantime, Kuretich is really
taking the tier 2 tower.
I just want to wait at this age as there is the MKB completed for Shiro.
A lull before the storm. It's only 13 to 6 in terms of the kills, so...
...relatively low kill count.
Here from League of Legends, it's like 5 times more kills than you're used to seeing probably.
I mean, both teams are just playing a lot, or there's a lot of respect going on...
...when it comes to how the map is being played, where can they pick you off?
Because Vici, even with the still deficit, just a very, very even game.
Why was the glimmer in TP?
And he's out.
I'm a little bit surprised that Vici are not playing with any 4 staffs against the Radiant draft,
you know, trying to squeeze people out of like a shackle or a chain,
so just create a little bit of distance between their cores and Keratich.
Keratich tower, but the shackle is actually reflected,
but they had the silence on the linary able to get the 4 staff onto the other side,
and is still pursuing his XM, gets Black number one.
She can see Block taking a ton of damage,
gonna get healed.
To him, Stone finally killed off his Keratich,
Boxer BKB in retreat.
The Gale Force doing a pretty good work.
Gets a shackle, and then Terablade,
and they have the damage,
and they can be able to clean up White.
GBK gets that kill, but Block absolutely
deletes Keratich, gets to the south,
into the pit, he goes with that ult.
And the Terablade, unfortunately,
was the big kill coming out from BBT.
And it's Block.
Looks like he'll eventually be found,
So it ends up being a 1 for 3, carries trade lines.
But, BG bled a little bit more.
No, boom boys will definitely take that type of fight right here at Aegis.
It was expiring anyway in like 30 to 40 seconds.
And even with some very clutch heals from Jingqiu to keep off the life initially.
Otherwise, Curitich would have just maybe got now from, you know, Scott 3.
Had another incredible shackle onto the Shiro TV.
And, you know, he's gonna get screwed by his illusions.
Yeah, you are.
Now, BB Team, they're finding good fights, and this is while TB is at one of the strongest moments in the game.
Like, they're looking here. Of course, they kind of get Kharizach once nearly for free.
But even so, he still has the BKB once he respawns.
And you can see the damage from Shiro.
Like, if Kharizach isn't, you know, careful here, or doesn't even land the shackle on the main hero, he would have died way earlier in this fight.
Both carries die simultaneously. Good job from Bok to create the extra pressure, but maybe in the fight did technically go the way a BB team.
Aga and Sceptre are there for G&Q. I'm not sure if he had it in that last fight.
I don't think so, but we definitely would have seen it.
Now Willowisp is insanely strong.
Not the 7-minute script?
Yeah, this one's not that important to Lotus.
Good Lotus.
On to the Storm, are you thinking heavy damage to get the frog and the silence on top of
them?
GPK creating pressure on the high ground onto Y.
We know XM doing the same for Vici.
Like I said, don't save.
As XM has to use all his mana to retreat.
So again, another shrine likely to go the way.
And Bok gets focused fired into the grave.
So two dead for Vici.
And Bleeding Blisters team win another fight and they're going to likely get this Tier
to an admission to that shrine that saved and ended up grabbing for himself.
Even though you know this play is coming, they just get a correct play going.
Chirro didn't have the meadow, it didn't feel comfortable using it.
I think he really wants this VKB before he's fighting.
I don't know if I really blame him, right?
Like if I'm looking at like the Radiant Chirros overall.
Ember now has an Agnem Scepter, he's constantly broke off genius.
You have an Agnem Scepter on the Largo as well.
A lot of problems to deal with here against the bow bone terminators
Focus fire and the arna kanda used to take out the tier 3, but
And they get the full set of racks 20 seconds for faith beyond to come back in this game
So it looks like they'll sacrifice it without their night stalker. It's a first lane to BB team
Back in control
It is a big one also if either team gets their site on the active runes. There's a damage rune in the top area
And it's also gonna be here for item timing and here is where a lot of illusion matchups can also swing
Against the magic heroes if you get a couple of catalysts you get some timeless
Enchantments to get some more spell amp your way shiro if anyone on the dire side looked at the minimap
They know there's an ambrune
Your Torah would be quite disappointed if they will not go here to get it and GPK is gonna snag it instead. Yep
Are you surprised that Cheryl went for BKB so late? No, I honestly think his
item build was fine. There's a world where maybe you could skip Scotty and then
you went for MKB, BKB straight up. I think where their game faltered a lot
whilst the secondary roge, where they had a 5k gold lead, they leave the area and
the BB squad just kind of got to fully attack them, win the fight and steal the
Aegis. Because I feel like this Aegis could have been his BKB until he
completed it. There's the timeless
conjures catalyst for one that's Mr. Miro
who will be very happy about this one.
Oh yeah. Yeah this is it's just a type of
timing 35 to 40 minute mark. Nice guy from
GBK.
Freebie.
Brown briefcase team have been in this
position before and we've seen them with
these leads with and again we've we
We've said it many a time, they do not throw these leads very often. Vici were in the game for quite a while. They still are.
If this next rush goes the way of BB team, it's going to be really hard to recover from Vici.
Yeah, because you have a satanic from Kiritich as well.
You can be trying to get the shot on as XM coming in right on top of the undying.
He's listening to BKB already.
And so Willow isp onto the high ground, into the gale force.
She can Q now on the run, but he can't go anywhere.
Anyway, Shirou talking to BKB along with the band, trying to run away and get focused by looking for the Sunder, but it's not to be.
Down goes the carry for Vici Gaming as the rest retreat in shame, and that, if it's a fast rush, which it is, 20 seconds away, if they spot it.
And this will be a freebie for BB Team.
Well, it's still one minute where Shirou isn't even on the board.
BB Team, they're just finding the fights that they want. Miro's got the double-lick talent, just getting Katsuo-mi out of all the pressure, baiting them further in.
And I do think that Kiritage got to skip a couple of item-pimings with some of the fights that they have won.
Like earlier, this MKB timing he matches with today to the Sun, he's going to Static. He can stand his ground against Miro.
And they still have the Serpent Wars. They're going to get the connection onto the hook-wink as well. Miro gets that kill.
They're going to get the Tier 3 with the Ornaconda on top in a second set of barracks going away of BB Team.
As they are in firm control now, GPK creating some annoyance for Bakken Company.
And Shiro will respawn here shortly.
So bustling Barracudas, I think they can just go for Roche.
They absolutely can.
I wonder if they will just hold the area maybe a little bit until they know, okay, it's
free, now we can go for it.
Obviously they kill Roche incredibly fast.
There you go, get some flesh colders.
Because they're just getting baited in way too far.
Even this full Agh-Nam-Center to Ginkyu has, doesn't get to use it in 3-1.
Everyone has BKB there, he cannot sunder anything.
Just such a hard position to be in for Shiro.
As we see, Keratich get yet another A, just gonna have the refresher shard,
cheese and Roche banner, all the goodies, maybe the most valuable Roche in the game.
This third one.
Oh, that's lovely.
Got the cheese, you have a banner with the 40-minute waves if you want.
Do you have only one lane left to go? Do you really have to wait for anything here?
If you're the BB squad, I don't feel close to any items. You know, GPK has got a couple K gold.
Can maybe buy out a full item on to Cathomium on the Undying if you want. It's close to the Lotus.
An OctoRain core being built for Miero.
I mean, let's see if they're waiting for anything specific. I mean, he's pretty damn close to the OctoRain, so they probably wait for that.
3.4k for GPK right now as Kiritich can't go for a blink
They're gonna be able to take
Yet another tourney this one is only gold though
This is where if you're reaching gaming you're gonna have to come up with
The plan and how you take the fight because this next flight
Could be the last one of this entire game. They have only one last lane to go for
Let's see a world where you want to smoke up, go from the back line, you know, use the
Nightstalker ult, maybe get some eyes on the Shadow Shaman, and also on the Katoumi
Undying, who's incredibly annoying, he's got a gold scepter as well.
Speck gets popped, could even be the reason why he stays alive.
And now the smoke coming out for BB.
Octorine officially picked up, as we talked about, and the arrow is super strong on the
frog man 4k HP with the cheese optimum core no caretich actually opting for the
agonist scepter so you had another power spike definitely team why not
right down and out of focus fire this is where beachy have to stand their
ground serpent or placed as well as the illusions try to make quick work if it
ordered the tier 3 tower is dead though beachy have to make something work the
willow west is just gonna be cleaned up very easily and shiro just getting
control for the back line. They're gonna pop that fortification now, soft reset from
BBT. All ready to play. And that's likely the last glyph they're gonna have this entire
game. They don't try to defend here. They get the range barriced, the melee racks are
now being focused. There's the Nightstalker ult. There's now characters just focused
by looking to get mega creeps. Not even defended at all. Just indecisiveness, I think they were
They're maybe hoping to wait until his data is on Shiro, but yet now, well, you will have
to play into Megas.
There's no way around it.
That is shocking that they did not try to defend that.
Not like they were going to go once Bok popped that ultimate.
Just didn't really find a connection.
And with that, BB Team can just wait for the Mega Creeps to show up in their base, or they
can just go for a snipe.
Oh, it's daytime without Nightstalker all this is very easy.
Yeah, therefore, why you're dead.
Zip in. Not a whole lot of damage to work with. They don't have any back.
They divide back onto the hood. Think it's XM now getting focused by
Karrot Ditch. We'll have to zip away. Very little man to work with.
And GPK was forced to use his BKB in retreat. It's gonna pop the cheese back to full HP.
The mega creeps haven't quite made it to the base yet.
As the Arna Kanda is gonna be placed in between the tier four towers.
Big zip to try to kill off the creeps to create some backdoor protection.
But again, it's mega creeps coming.
And this is a Largo stream. You just stay behind your carrier, you buff them up, you allow Pyrrhicite to just keep shooting away.
And he has not been missing this game at all on the Windranger, whether it's the Power Shots, right clicks, or the Shackles.
Looks like they're gonna retreat for the time being. No mana on the Largo right now.
I mean, they still have a minute on Aegis, so...
likely to just get some mana and get right back into the fray.
Let's see if Bici can come up with a better plan than what they had in the last fight.
I don't really know if there was that much of a plan.
Perhaps you know there's a lot of pressure going on.
You're 18k down now, you're playing into megas.
At some point you will have to come up with something.
They have gotten 10 total kills in this series.
That's crazy.
And I do that quite like, their kill score wasn't that bad like early on, right?
It's been a very quiet like 10 to 15 minutes here
As if you look at bucks money score lines 0 0 13 on save hasn't even died a single time on the roster
Yeah, he hasn't had a single time in a series. Yeah, that's crazy. And that's against a nice stalker storm lineup. Yeah
That's a yikes as each either last defense with a focus fire now applied
They're saved with a BKB. He's gonna get the full Shackle onto Shiro, controlled up and killed off.
80 seconds down and out. No way to get back game with a buyback.
As they're just gonna call it, GG's come out and BB team absolutely destroy this man from Vici Gaming
as they head to the Grand Finals.
These guys are looking very good, right? You see that in game one?
Kind of stomping, not giving up anything that this game quite different.
Vici look good, they look good throughout the entire tournament, today maybe not as much, but even in this game, they had a good lead, it was all about the second rose, and I think this is the important and good things from BBT, it doesn't matter if they're ahead or behind, they kind of know how to just execute their game plan.
Yeah, it was a lot closer, at least through the mid-game this time for Vici Gaming.
But for the Belchers, they just came out, swinging so hard after that mid-game.
GPK ends the game 9-3, Kiritich.
I love this win-runner pick.
Usually, I'm kind of iffy with it, but against the Terribler, it looks really, really good.
I mean, Shiro ends the game 0-1-4.
That's crazy.
He's so far in this game, too.
Honestly, they had some timings that they just didn't get to execute together, and sometimes
It's hard to tell from like, you know, it's easy for us. We have like the full vision
But what is it exactly that?
BB team is doing that is making it so hard to execute like when on the second roll
They get to squeeze it as early fight and you just see the feature a little bit late
I do really think that's where they dropped this game
But yeah, heritage on this wind ranger insane performance and kind of all around everyone just playing the hard out
Yeah, and say again just to reiterate in a two two games play
He died zero times on a support that was absurd actually absurd at the end
He even gets like a game winning full duration shackle on the enemy hard carry
There's a BKB letting letting him channel that and when you get to that point the roster it is
Very hard to deal with so overall I think we choose to be quite happy with the overall performance, right?
It's leading up to GI you're doing very good. You're getting top four at a major tournament
Maybe even third place potentially tomorrow
So definitely nothing to be too unhappy about with the overall performance these shackles though
Yeah, we think the illusions against shiro. That was like two or three deaths like pivotal deaths as well throughout the game for him
You see the last shackle coming out from save is
BB team absolutely destroying. Let's go to the stage for an interview
Ladies and gentlemen, may I please introduce you to our first Grand Finalist!
Here we go, give it up for Derrick Ditch and BBT!
What an absolute honor and pleasure to see you guys just have a clinic that series.
Extremely impressive. Did you know, fun fact, you have only lost games this tournament on Rangers.
One Drow Ranger, one Wind Ranger, yet you pick it in game 2. What was that dedication like?
How did you know you were going to win with the world's best Wind Ranger? You?
I don't know, Vitaliy Trostin and he coached me how to play Wind Ranger, how to strike, how to use power shot.
Alright, fair enough. Your support did not die that entire series. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before.
How does the support not die? That's their job, if you will. What is going on with Mr. Safe?
he's super prime super safe prime I could take that and in interview earlier
this year you stated that you did not know how painful it would be to be
second place you are in another final and I gotta tell you before you join the
team BB team was kind of known for choking and moments like this not any
longer now you've been a champion are you ready for this grand final do you
think that there is even a slight chance you might go through that pain of
second place. Of course we're ready to destroy them.
I'd like to be on that stage, whoever dares to be on that stage. But I have to ask you, who do you think is going to be on that stage along there with you?
What? Who will be fighting you in the grand finals?
To be honest, PV and the other team, very good team, they're very strong. It's for me 50-50 matchup.
To be honest, I don't know. It's just coin flip. My coin flip, it's Yandex.
Alright, alright. But either way, you're gonna crush whoever comes, right?
Of course, of course.
Okay, and last question for you. You have spoken so much this year about your personal dedication.
You know, gym in every day, practicing every day, the slow increase.
Do you have too much left to prove? Do you have to win this one?
Or is it just another way down your path?
It's another virus. Casual day of my life.
Damn, alright, a casual winner. Fantastic.
Whoa, let's get some casual teammates up here.
Gentlemen, please, join us. You do know what time it is here at EWC.
You don't just beat your opponents. You crush them, baby.
And one of you has to crush.
Let's get that crusher ready. Open those doors.
And who is going to be my crusher here today?
I need one of you to elect.
Okay, me here for a watch it gentlemen to the key crusher my friends
Not only do you crush a key you come crush an entire region here today?
They are going down say good night that Chinese doughnut not as back as we thought
Bye brothers. Here we go
God! That one blows the hell up! That's what I like to see!
Alright, my friend, excellent crush. Let's take a look at the key and see if it lives up to your standards.
I gotta be real, I don't think we can crush that key to represent how much you've crushed them in that series.
Take a look sir, examine! Is it crushed or not?
Uh, fine.
That is fine! But if they're ready to crush whoever goes into that grand final is coming up tomorrow.
Let's head to the panel and see what they think.
Oh, yeah!
A fine crushing was done by BB Team against Vici Gaming.
It was a closer game, game two.
We can make the claim that Vici Gaming actually did get to play Dota on this one,
but it was still not good enough to come close to beating BB Team,
who will be our first grand finalist here.
Congratulations to them.
We're going to break this game down, Seth.
This was at least a closer game.
Hey, Brian, this was at least a closer game.
You guys got to turn on your microphone.
This is great. I'll just hold him on the leg. It was a closer game.
That is for sure.
Am I working now? Oh, perfect. Yes.
I mean, this was a this is a series for me where, you know, when we heard
Kiritich's interview afterwards, he says this is another day.
I know, like, to some degree, we want the players to be heavily
emotionally invested in this, but I also have such deep respect for the fact that it doesn't
matter what day it is, it doesn't matter what the situation is, if it's practice day, if it's off time,
if it's championship day that they have the same mindset and they're able to put the same amount
of effort and conviction to their craft and I feel like for Kiritich, when he talked about every
day just being a slow grind in the right direction, it's displayed in his gameplay throughout the
entire course of this year and for a player like him, it's, I think this is truly his moment, so you
He's going to fight the formidable opponent tomorrow regardless of who wins, but I believe in him personally.
Test, test? Okay, I thought you muted my mic as a punishment for believing that Wichi gave him both two games in a row and they end up losing.
You're like, yeah, okay, this guy doesn't get to.
He set it up.
He's done.
But no, impressive performance by BV.
I think I don't want to say expect it and make it sound like less rewarding than it should be for them.
Honestly, it was a very tough challenge for them. They showed up big time. They played, I think, two of the best games they've played so far.
It was... everything was just executed to perfection.
Like, the team fights especially, I think, is the most impressive part.
Like, how they positioned themselves, how they're able to...
You know, how well they understand fight conditions.
Because sometimes, you know, you see the fight, like, it's starting to settle in, and they're taking positions,
and all of a sudden they just rush into the cheat, like, they understand that there's an angle to kill Cp,
and it's like a one second, we're talking one second angle
and they find that, they find the opening.
It's really impressive like how well they execute
teamfights together and how in sync
they are with each other's reading.
Yeah, I mean, for me, when I'm watching Vici,
they looked much better in game two
than they did in game one, so I'm happy to see
that they put on a bit more of a showing,
but it was kind of like, they got past the hurdle
of the 10 to 15 minute mark,
they didn't have the little bit of sloppy mistakes there
and we got to see that side of them, the better side,
But then, like you said, it's just BB team,
oh man, I feel like you're throwing a punch at them
and you're vulnerable for that split second
and they just gut punch you the second that you do it.
And yeah, for me, it's a combination of fight execution
that's made teams like BB make it this far.
And it's also that creativity and the drafting
and the strategies and the next level of that.
I feel like they have such a deep understanding
of the picks going in,
but then also how that plays out of the game.
I feel like they're almost able to visualize it
from minute zero and then have it manifest itself later on.
It is like a painter, you know, on their campus.
Yeah, and we're not done yet breaking down this game.
But we are going to take a slight break,
because right now we are going to check in
at the Alliance Vault with Chris and Rose.
Thank you very much, Steve.
So we are down here once again at the Alliance Vault.
And I am here with Rose.
And just discussing kind of what's going on down here, Rose.
MLBB, we've had the women's invitation all year.
How's it been for you guys?
It's great.
currently in the grand finals where we have Navi going up against Team Vitality and for
a little bit of context, Navi won it all in 2024 MWI and on the side of Team Vitality
they won it all in 2025. So 2024, 2025 and right now they're battling it out for 2026.
And for these guys as well, Club Championship points on the line all my kind of, I have
to make sure I get that bit and that's my job, it's alright though. But yeah for these
guys big important moments for them to go well in the Club Championship but we've got
you guys actually coming over to stage for you next week as well.
Correct, next week you guys will be seeing me on the main stage because I will be hosting
instead of reporting.
I know, so we've got MLBB, we've got the mid-season invitation coming up for them, our mid-season
competition coming up for those guys next week.
What we've got to expect from that when we do get that though.
Ooh, that one's going to be exciting, we're going to have the best teams in the world
coming down to Paris, battling it out for a lot of money, a lot of club championship
points and of course the pride of their nations.
It's going to be amazing.
That's the most important thing.
Thank you very much, Rose, for the chat.
We'll be checking up with you next week.
Back to you guys in the studio.
Thank you very much, Chris and Rose.
And yeah, next week, this stage will
be in the hands of MLBB.
But for now, it is still all Dota 2.
And we do still want to break down the game, too.
We just witnessed just a little bit more, Seth.
What do you got for us?
What do I have?
I mean, I have two sequences that kind of show
the difference of execution.
And the end result of a team fight when it's, I guess, well-executed and when it isn't.
So we'll see here, one of the first aggressive moves I'll play on half speed that the BB team is doing
and trying to contest Vici Gaming with them.
And you have to look at the position. You might think this is a great Tombstone placement, Katowami, he's kind of baiting.
And what I want you to focus on is, look at the fight entry for Vici Gaming.
So you have TB, very well positioned, as we could see there, you know, like on the high ground.
Basically killing heroes and Storm enters the fight as TB is ready to kill the targets that are being stunned, right?
And on the other side of the fight, you have the Nightstalker, that is like creating chaos in the backline, forcing them to look at him.
And basically giving free reigns to his TB, like Windranger is not allowed to focus the TB because she has to deal with Nightstalker,
his support, the character supports are probably making the call or Ember in that case that
hey well Naisoku is jumping me, I need some help.
So everything just happens together for Wichigaming, it's very well rounded and this is like a
draft that is really hard to deal with because you can't really get through the CB because
Cuddle's positioning is also kept very safe because they are, you know, offense is the
best defense, it is true in Dota, Cuddle has been, if you look at the Cuddle, he's been
untouched the entire teamfights, like if you pay close attention to the Cuddle, he spends
All the fight hitting his allies, really finishing their mana, reducing the cooldown spell, and this fight did not look even close.
And these heroes are late game heroes, like Night Soccer suffered a really poor laning phase, TV obviously, everybody understands why TV needs items, and the same can be said about Storm.
Now, a different situation is the Roche contest, where Vici Gaming, you could blame them for maybe being a little bit late and not understanding that Roche is being taken by Vivi.
This will lead into a rush teamfight, which they will have to pay a very high price for.
Because if you look at the difference between the fight I just showed you and this one,
now, NS doesn't give vision in the rush split anymore.
So that is obviously a big factor.
Storm jumped in, started the fight, and you know, you kind of wonder, where is TB?
Like, TB is not there yet.
TB has just entered the fight a little bit above, so this allowed for, like,
essentially BV team to completely ignore the storm, completely ignore the NS,
that are not creating any issues,
they get to turn their attention to the TB fully
and focusing on.
And to also mess with the column,
first they enter reposition.
So it comes down to very little like aspects of the fight.
This isn't why you have to enter the fight together
as a unit.
It has to be structured.
And we've seen like the best scenes in the tournament,
they don't rush these sequences under no circumstances
will they give up on how their fight has to be executed.
They will give you the rush.
They will, you know, we've seen the Falcons,
the indexes of the war,
They will give you one Aegis, two Aegis, at no point will they put themselves in a situation
they don't control or that their drafts cannot really serve.
So in that sense, I think it really showed the difference between both teams where on
one side you have very crisp execution and discipline, and on the other side you have
a Vici Gaming with very creative concepts and honestly, great showing, but just they're
missing the surgical aspect of the high-level Dota.
Yeah, and of course, we will see them again tomorrow on the third, fourth place decider.
So hopefully they will be having some time to get that in order and otherwise later down the line
They will have another shot in China with TI
But for now they are not making it to the grand finals
It is BB team that is just one step ahead and they look very good
But we had to give the MVP to one person and it's not the first time we give it to this person Brian
It's Kiritich once again. I'll just say with saves performance in that series
This means so much for how well Kiritich also played during the series because there were so many
pop-off plays on the side of BB team as a whole unit and heritage he's I think I've probably said this 10 times this tournament
But he's one of my favorite carry players ever since seeing his interview earlier this year where he just joined BB team
and he was just excited talking about the
Opportunity to get to play with such amazing players and that was such a different vibe from the player that he replaced and this guy at first
You could tell that he was a bit nervous and uncomfortable with this team not because of like problems within them
But you know he's putting the environment he's unfamiliar with but over the course of this year
This guy has leveled up
Non-stop and we even saw him like 1v3 killing people with an Aegis we see it like oh
It's right here where he's literally by himself and gets the two-man shackle a little bonus on the coddle there
Taking the clutch Roche plays where like there's been
to countless ages, snatches throughout the course of this tournament.
This guy performs well in the early game,
the laning stage fitting in well with BB Team,
and then also has that clutch factor where he's just reliable,
and I think that's the most important thing that Kari can be.
Reliable, stable, and clutching it out when it matters,
that seems like a perfect recipe for success here for BB Team.
Anything else for you? You know, reliable, stable, clutch, like, what else do you need?
I don't know. Oh, nice guy.
Yes, yes, yes, he provides, he provides.
I think the one thing that maybe some other carry players that we're still gonna see later
Pocket picks unusual picks. Is he a mebo player? I don't think so. He's play he I mean, I don't know if he's a mebo player
But he definitely has restricted his hero pool like in accordance to what the meta dictates
But he has a very wide hero also this guy can definitely go out of the
Structure thing outside the box, you know if he needs to so I think he has a lot more to show
That is a good news also for BB team and how exceptional he is as a parent. Yeah
He's gonna need it because he is in the grand finals with his team
And they still need an opponent because our first semi-finals. It was a quite quick one
I'll say that but we have another semi-finals coming your way
Yandex versus P vision is gonna be a super hype one
Cowlite for that one, but I'll be honest
I will also I also have something else that I'm very curious about and then I'm very excited about to finally get
to watch I did not know I needed this in my life and maybe on the hindsight I'll
say that I did not but we did put Tyler one and slacks in a room see what
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Well, I guess we should just get things started here.
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League of Legends.
I don't know.
I mean, it's all good.
It's all good.
League of Legends obviously exists,
but Dota is a superior game.
You guys took everything about Dota, copied it, did it worse.
Okay, I'm not trying to cut them off.
I'm not trying to cut them off.
I cannot bear to see this guy talk.
Please, go.
He's lanky, pale, bald, unlike me.
True.
Terrible at games.
Brother, Yoda has built in lag.
Built in lag.
Turn rate is built in lag.
Wow, that is actually impressive.
It is a clown game.
You know why they have built in lag?
It's always like, oh, it's the balance of the range
and the melee characters.
It's just, you guys don't have hands.
You have no micro, you have no mechanics.
Oh, that's really true.
Turn rate, you can click that.
That makes a lot of sense that you don't like turning.
I mean, your traps are so big,
you can barely turn your goddamn head.
Is that an insult?
That's not an insult.
I'm a big fan, I think you look great.
Listen, turn rate is a big deal.
It's called skill, my friend.
You got to be a planning stuff being able to follow stuff look at stuff. It's a big deal
Yeah, okay, and then the didn't even turn this guy has no idea
Oh this guy okay, bro ability to follow action is not good because you're a league player
You don't get it and that's okay. Okay. That's turn rate
Turn rates terrible argument. It's why I wait wait
All right, go ahead. I played Dota. Yeah, and I got almost to gold wait as a punch player
Why are you defending league? Didn't you get banned from that game?
Yes, but I'm grown. I've matured in my acting unreasonable. You play Dota when you got banned from league. Am I right?
Yeah, that's the way I play that game. There's nothing else. Why did you stop playing Dota?
I think can you tell that story? No, it's nothing else because I didn't contact you and say stop
That is not what happened. I thought board of it's a terrible. Okay. I'm sure you would get bored of it
That is interesting for you. Not enough. He's raised me. He's played female characters with that. Okay. That's okay
That I'm not I'm not saying Lee. I'm not saying that either. I'm not saying Lee legend is perfect
But listen, I will say this yeah, don't I has a mechanic where you can buy back as well
You can you can it's called spending money. Yeah, it's called you made a misplay here's a get a jail free card
Well, no no in Dota our players spend money in the game instead of out of the game to buy a $500 autograph that they never wanted
Now I get it turn rate is a big deal, but I heard league has turned turn what oh
Oh, sorry, it's not turn rate. It's turn over rate of the
Okay, this guy has rehearsed it.
Okay, he has rehearsed it by the way.
Yes, maybe the staff, but people play the game well.
Which one?
League of Legends. It's one of the most popular games in the world for years.
Yeah, until the novel Legends main game came out, it was great.
The only people that's not true, that's not true.
The only people that play Dota are like European players.
That is true. Dota does not have a lot of players, and you guys are so much bigger than us.
I completely agree. There's a lot of people that eat fast food instead of going to a three-star mission in restaurant
I would not wait. I would still think America as a whole not insulting me. I mean league players
How about the league players in like Korea?
Where Korea probably play? Oh my god. That's what baby. That's where faker is from, right? Yes. Thank you
Oh my god, what other pros do you guys have? Okay? Do you know what? I don't know a namesake pro Dota player
Who's a who's a shelf Dota player? We don't want you to know. I everyone's always like
Nobody watches the game. I do it dude if a lot of people advertise Dota 2 then we'd have a bunch of goddamn league players
You think I want to play with those guys?
Players in your game to even queue up. You're probably scraping the bottom of the barrel right now
I mean you do have me a few times probably 25 30 minutes
Yes, all right. You got me there. You got me there. You know here. I would probably surrender, but unlike a league player
I'm not a so I'll keep going
What I'm surprised you are so good at debating for a guy that has no ability to talk in his game
What I can talk to my game. No, you can't
Yeah, but they said it's coming. It's coming soon like the replay system. Is that coming? Hell yeah
Yeah, it's coming soon soon guys just spend a little bit more money unlocking heroes when they're done with the
Champions when they're done with a card game. They're called champion. They'll get to that. Don't get to that
because the legend is like a
They're owners like a they can take over the industry in different fields other than just that's really interesting. Take that's a claim
Yeah, wait a minute
Who makes that okay, let's let's retract that never mind. It's fine. I'm not yo if it goes bad
You can just re-release jinx for the 40th time. I'm sure that would not even there's lying for camera
I'm gonna put it back and put it back in the car game. How about arcade arcane did well
Are we where's the where's the other show that is how many knows where what it is you got us there?
I mean our anime was not as good. It is so surprising how much league players love league when they don't have to play that game
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I think they have terrified everybody in practice also in scrims, both of them.
They have pretty different playstyle in my opinion and different hero kits.
So I think that's like the most interesting part where like they have different reads
on the meta.
So you always love to see ideas clashes, like idea clashes, knowing that it's going to be
executed like to the best of its abilities and therefore we'll get the truth, you know,
like who's better, which ideas are better, you know, which heroes are better, how to
break meta heroes, what is it that you cannot deal with and you should be banning and whatnot.
Obviously they're both back with great coaches.
Poppy is involved in this game somehow.
You know, he's always there, so you'll also see it in some of these phases.
I mean, you know, no one, but you look at this.
I mean, these guys have been around for what, 10 years, 15 years.
And they're here, you know, on their way to the grand finals.
And we talk about them as being absolute favorites.
You have to put some respect on that.
Oh, absolutely.
I think one interesting thing is both of the offlaners, they play for other teams as well.
So they kind of swapped.
And this is also going to give them, I would say, but then we'll have the upper hand
in terms of understanding how the other team wants to play,
because they have also been very successful.
They have been on the top with the different rosters as well.
So it's going to be very interesting, especially the duo from the off-lane,
how they're going to approach this.
Because I feel like having inside info from some of these teams
definitely going to benefit them.
But we rarely see where both of the players kind of played for the team.
So it's going to be very cool.
Yeah, they've been very open about talking about that.
that it wasn't even a player-skill thing.
It's synergy and vibes.
And those are very important to get the right team together.
Both of these off-laners, they found their right team,
respectively, by just swapping around.
So we're focusing our attention on Yandex first,
and we are going to hear DM talk about how he feels
being integrated in Yandex.
It was amazing to join the Yandex because I play in a team which is full of high school
players and great personalities, so I'm very happy for this opportunity.
The difference of a Yandex team compared to my other teams is that here people are the
most professional in terms of communicating to each other, in terms of playing, in terms
of approaching the game.
I think I learned a lot, being in the team already, even so it was like only two months or something.
Because when you play, the auto was really good players, you're improving every single day.
And I think that's what happened here.
I'm getting new concepts, getting new ideas and empowering the ideas I have.
I think I'm getting better.
For me it feels better to not think about any team, like I don't care if the new client
is going to be like Kippor or like Necrol playing the Terraply like now.
It's just better play against heroes and don't give a damn about which we're going to play against.
We did not win this type of tournament yet.
It's harder to think about when we need to win, like and I'm going to be focused on playing the playoffs.
I'm just like focused on doing my best and if it's going to be enough, well that's great.
They have not faced an event like this before, but they have been in the Grand Finals.
They took three titles this year, so no stranger to being in that best of five and coming out
on top as well.
This is a team that hasn't been around for that long.
This is the first season there together, and especially, of course, with DM joining
only towards the second half of the season.
These five players, because how far they've come, is quite incredible.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, if you look at the players that are on the squad, like for example, DM, he has
been on multiple teams but didn't really find much success.
I think for me, personally, he was the most improved player of the previous season, like
he was just a shining star of the team.
And also Watson, like he has been grinding for a really long time, but was unable to
find a really cool spot for him.
he was unable to win the tournaments.
And you could definitely feel that he was there always,
but just needed that extra bit of once.
And I think ever since this team has been formed him,
this is his new home.
This is where he gets to shine.
I love the synergy a lot with this team.
In terms of playstyle, to me, I know DM really well.
He's been on the OG.
I've actually been a teammate of this for a while.
And he's the kind of person that, actually, the same with Saksa.
I realize I have a lot of information
because I feel most of these players.
But DM basically has a clear understanding of what he wants to see happen for his own game.
And it's not like he's taking space, he's actually making space, but he's very clear headed.
And I think it gives a lot of freedom to support, and especially you give that freedom to someone that sucks at,
which really excels at understanding, hey, how do I impact the map as much as possible?
Like he's always going to be doing the right thing, whether it's...
Because that's support life in Dota now. You could be stacking, you could be playing for your lane,
you could be gating, you could be checking your runs, you could be doing a million different things.
So, understanding, you know, having this clear and high level of understanding of Dota,
I was like, hey, this is how I utilize my time the best, and I think DM really enables that.
So, there's like a lot of synergy in that team in really putting these players in the best conditions
to kind of express their potential. Yeah, I think also for all the players involved on Yandex,
some of them know picking at the right time is important. They have done so in the past,
and I also feel like they are picking right now at the same time that comes. I feel like they have
Incredibly high baseline. Oh, absolutely. I mean, this is the team that sucks that he brings a lot experience to the team. He
He won. Yeah, you know, this is the guy that also just I think stabilizes most of the lineups every single time that he joins like
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very high.
division they could either top it or just not be even close to contest challenging it so and I don't know what we're getting today
little more variable
Yeah, but that's what we like about this team because like even with the previous squad
They also had this issue where sometimes they're like five ten K gold ahead and suddenly they are dropping the ball and the game is like
Extending for another 20 30 minutes. They're still gonna win that game
But a lot of the times like this is something that shouldn't happen. I think they got much much better
as the time progressed, especially under Puppy's coaching.
And something that Puppy also said during one of his interviews is,
you know, back when he was a player, he was very stubborn,
something that he was like, you know, I'll try to beat it.
If something's broken, I'll try to find a way how to beat it.
Now as a coach, he's like, you know what, let's just ban it.
So maybe one of the reasons why they also have like so much success,
because they do realize what's really good, like what's really in the,
and they take care of it by just removing it.
I think this is going to be a very interesting overall series to see the drafting approach,
because it seems like they've been on top of the game.
It seems like they understand Meta better than anybody else so far in the tournament,
and it's going to be very interesting to see all these small things.
They also talked about it yesterday, maybe thrown in some extra heroes,
but we'll have to see what's going to happen,
because we see teams actually bringing in some new stuff,
like maybe exchanging, not like necessarily the full squad,
like not what they want to go for with the draft.
It's just like one piece of equation is removed,
but they would kind of replace it with pretty much the same hero.
So it's going to be very interesting.
Yeah, it'll be even very interesting also,
I think, P-Vision, this is a squad that has had very high highs
and also a couple of lows here and there.
It's something that they're also being very vocal about,
that that's ability that maybe there that Janek has that provision is searching for they are actively
searching for it and it comes to consideration with my class being for their words cage in them.
Yeah I think this player to me is you know I used to play with Jarex and to me he reminds me of him
in a sense like they have their own thing going on and you know back in the days Johan Fennard
described Jarex with like you know he's like it's like a dog chasing a ball except you don't see the
You just have to go after the dog and just believe that he's taking you there
And I don't mean I mean this in the mall like as the biggest compliment ever
It's like don't even try to understand what's going on in his mind like it's just too elaborate too complex to just just
Go like jump on board with him, you know, and he will take you there
He will take you to places you've never seen in Dota to me
He's exceptionally good at the game and he can always be their X factor
He can be the difference maker in any game any scenario
We're gonna find out if he is the X-Factor for P-Vision in our upcoming series and with that also, if P-Vision does end up winning the series, it means that 9th class will play the Grand Finals on his birthday.
That's always the kind of special I would imagine, but getting way out of myself, we got the grand semi-finals coming your way and to get it started, we're heading over to the stage.
Thank you, Mo. So much, Sheba, and friends. Yes, the grand semi-finals. I gotta say that's
a great way to put it. Two teams that everybody thought would be in that grand finals. Now
here fighting with only one game lost between them. Crazy. You know, we get a little taste
of what could happen in the grand final, but that's what you expect when you see teams
at this level of competition, is that every single game is a tough fight to get to that
eventual end to the whole tournament.
Honestly, those facts, I just have to,
I just have to really flame them there for a moment.
Because you told me that semifinal just before
it's gotta be a bloodbath.
Well, it was a bloodbath.
Not the competitive kind of bloodbath,
but it certainly,
one team did get blooded.
Hey, hey, hey, you know what?
The dreams of the underdogs are all done.
And you know what, this is Dota.
This ain't no fairytale.
You know the best players are gonna be
the top three teams, and we have the best of the best here today.
You ready to get this party started, Mr. Milos?
Let's get it going.
Who's our first team?
Our first team, my friends.
You know them.
You love them.
You said that they would win this tournament,
and they are on the path.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage, Yandex.
Team Yandex has looked unstoppable before this tournament.
They looked unstoppable in the groups.
And now, the only time you're going to see this team stop
is when they stop right next to me.
That's it.
These guys are on a roller coaster right now
with no end in sight.
Absolutely incredible place so far.
And there might only be one team that people think
might be able to stop them.
That's basically the best way that I could put it,
because on the other side, it is a team that has only
been going up.
Please join me in welcoming to our stage,
P-Vision!
Last year at the Esports World Cup,
you saw these guys bow out at third place.
Yes, they were knocked out,
but eventually in the semis,
by the winners of the entire tournament,
Team Spirit, though, they are done.
They're dusted word, they're goodbye,
not even a word about them.
And look who survives here on our stage.
Ever since at third place,
They have hungered for more, and look at that a year later.
They're back in on the main stage,
and this time only one little hurdle away
from the Grand Final.
Absolutely, very cute.
They did lose to Team Spirit last year,
but who beat Team Spirit this year, I must say.
Almost like it meant nothing to them.
Yes, indeed.
So this will be quite a battle between
two very tested teams.
Gentlemen, we ready to go?
All right, got some nods.
We're good, please.
Your keys to your stations.
Off you go to the races. We will see if we can get that handshake here today. There's a lot of respect
Looks like the teams are set my friend all I can tell you is we're gonna go all three games
95 minutes per game
That's what I'm expecting out of this because these two are gonna go blow for blow that is it from us
Let's get this party started back to the panel
I think one of the toughest teams obviously lately, people have been rating as the best.
I think they're a good matchup for us.
I think we've usually done pretty well against them, even in good shape.
So I think we feel a bit confident, but not like cocky or anything like that.
I think we can always play better, but I mean we didn't face a real open and kind of this tournament to be true.
We didn't beat some real team. Maybe we're just good items.
I think if we talk about this event and our chances,
it's all about the match against Team Yandex.
I think we're the two strongest teams of the tournament,
so I guess it's like the match for the grand final winner.
Now that the match comes down from Chiro, they're going to kill out NalliD in the meantime as Chiro does get out with his life.
If I had to rate our us between 3 and 5, I think 50-50 I would say.
I'm not sure, it just depends which team is better on the day, which team has better ideas going into the match.
I think that's kind of beside a lot.
It's 50-50, you either win or lose.
Even while Thunder and Enchants can still hit Kogne, while the Tram Protectors in trouble can dissolve no chance for an overgrowth,
which means these kind of stuns battling it out, hoping for an Aegis kill.
That's it.
Follow the battery.
Whipple from Crucing Block.
Oh, it's a big long rampage across the map for Satanic.
It is 50-50, apparently, as our players set it themselves.
And as Saxa says, confident, not cocky going into this one.
I think also both teams would say the same.
For this upcoming best of three, we're also going to have an extra voice to the mix. Hello, Effie.
Welcome to the Grand Semifinals.
Hey, Sheeves. I'm super excited. I mean, watching these players and how they talk about each other and how much they respect each other, we're in for a treat here.
Oh, absolutely. I mean, you can definitely feel the respect, but I also want to go back to something that DM said in an interview.
He said that he doesn't see the players. He sees kind of heroes, which I can definitely see what he meant by it,
because like in every single game you don't really care like whether this is
some like guy named X whether that's like whatever his name is you're like
how do we counter certain heroes maybe you need to you know it's pretty basic
but definitely something to like make yourself easier when you're playing on
the stage to relieve yourself self off the pressure is also gonna be kind of
cool to see because they seem to be putting quite a lot of respect on to
each other and they say like, anybody who has a better draft, maybe just a better go-to
day that day is going to be winning this one.
Yeah, I would say these two teams are pretty evenly matched in terms of individual skill,
in terms of them being timing-based teams who understand when they're strong and when
they need to sit back and farm.
And I would say Andex have been a little bit faster in terms of tempo than Keyvision and
any other team in this tournament.
But like Soxa said, it's just who comes in with the better ideas this draft.
Let's find out we are in the draft for game one of this best of three of these semi-finals
We got undying already banned right out the gate so Malady cannot get his hands on that one
It's first pick going the way of Yan Max and they've been out the case the Largo and alone drew it
With the second pick on then para version and we have undying treants and center removed there
Yeah center is probably gonna be removed by whoever doesn't have the first pick because both of the offlaners
they kind of shine.
Damien maybe slightly more because he just loves the hero, like ever since he entered
the pro scene, this was his go-to hero.
If things didn't go too well, like especially now in this current meta with this new build
with the heart, it just feels like the hero provides you with so much.
It's a bit of a global save, but also very farm-oriented hero that a lot of the times
Damien, he tends to do really well on like, I think Enigma also is going to be in a conversation
for both of these teams.
Yeah, I think that's a big one for him that has been consistently banned out against DM
And typically that's because teams wanted to get that londra it start if they can but it's just become a respect
Then even without the londra it he looks really solid on it any kind of summons hero that can take the tower early and pressure the lane
Yeah, a little surprise that he didn't play like him so far because this is also
I would say one of his better heroes like we talk about these heroes that have quite a lot of momentum with the helm of the
Dominator beast master enigma something that can take over the certain area of the map, but we haven't really seen him play it
Darkseer picked up here explains the Largo ban
I was wondering why they prioritized it so heavily in that first phase
But they let the SF through and they just preemptively took the darkseer. So now they're saying P vision
Are you taking this SF or not because we're comfortable to play against it
Also by having the darkseer they break half of the Earth's spirit plus darkseer combination that P vision or so get up
Yeah, a lot of the teams don't really respect Darkseer when it comes down to picking SF straight away.
It is not a counter in lane and it's countered throughout the whole game because you are creating a strong illusion.
You are, you know, just, have you also seen different builds from Shadowfiend going for Yashakaya trying to counter this so you can like blow up the illusions
or like your right flick is not as strong playing off of your ulti slightly more.
But Tiny is a good response because Tiny is a hero that you can't really kill.
We can't really threaten him in the lane to be killed with the Darkseer plus one
He's way too tanky his strength gain is 4 per level which is pretty insane
And also the illusion that you make out of tiny is very very bad
Yeah, he can defend himself as well like just in terms of lanes to us, but I do think that picking tiny early
I know that it's not a popular support here
But I would hope that if a hard counter comes out like a totally or something for Watson that they're talking about maybe this tiny
being played mid with the keeper of the light potentially or maybe just being played as a support?
Yep, as a 4. I mean you have one of the best pairing this has indeed go to lane. We did mention
Enigma that could come out with the Tiny 4. It's still doable. This is not a strong position 4 by
any means but we've also seen as you mentioned a good amount of Tiny's play from the mid lane.
Maybe not so much here. I'd say quite a lot more in TI qualifiers where people were picking up a
Blink Dagger into Agadamceptor build and then like Casual Chrysalis into BKB
try to scale off with that Tree Walling. And the Coddle down pretty solid here
because that would have been the hero to enable this Tiny being played on
different lanes. Yeah overall not a lot of supports are left in that are very
popular other than the Hood Wink of course which is still one of the most
big heroes here as she is very good just not good enough to be banned that
also. I think she's still very solid like if we're talking about lane enablers
hoodwink and dark willow are the best in this tournament in terms of we're just
gonna secure it without really seeing what we're up against and nine class has
looked really good on his dark willow in particular outside of air spirit being
his standout hero. Is there any particular hero you would want to pair up with the
dark seal that you'd want to ban out because provision has the chance to ban
out the Urspirit if they don't want to pick it, which is of course a combo with the Darkseer.
Is that a strong enough combo to ban if you're not planning on picking it?
I think Urspirit in and of itself can be addressed. Like if we've seen if Urspirit gets picked without
a Darkseer, it's a weaker support, so then it gets thrown on that mid lane, and then if you're
playing Urspirit mid, you can get Slardard for example, you could get Huskard, there's potential
there. I do think for this Darkseer though, you can seek to take it for yourself or take a
clockwork or tusk? Yeah so far, Soxa didn't really play any melee heroes. He has been
playing exclusively ranged supports which also works with Darkseer, not in a sense where
you're going to be rushing in with the iron shell on you, but also just for the stabilized
lanes that are just completely pulling it. But yeah, if you go for more like position
5 force melee oriented heroes, definitely going to be clockwork, definitely going to
be tusk. Maybe I'm just a believer in tusk as a hero because the hero has everything
Coldwink, this hero just stabilizes quite a lot of off lanes. It gives you everything. Good laning stage, good scaling, break mechanic against some more annoying heroes as well.
Yeah, you pick her blind and now you have this kill combo between the Tiny and Hoodwink where if your Tiny goes in with that avalanche after the laning stage, you know you're going to have follow-up damage.
Make it easier. It does feel like this tournament, whichever team has that first easy play after the laning stage gets a big lead because they'll take the mid tower off of it or the top tier one.
Like we saw Bane and Marana be so effective because one good movement would just equal a tower in the early game
Yeah, you kind of want to have that one-two combo that you can always like
Have something to play with post laning stage
Well quite a lot of times we do see snapfire clock was just being paired up together a beast master caudal in the lane
That also transitions well into the game
So you like Emberk plus caudal any kind of these one-two combos is gonna feel nice
And this is gonna be the kill combo for P vision because you're never gonna lack damage with being these two
Yeah, the vision has banned out the the lean and they took a long time to think about that
I can only imagine that maybe shadow fiend was in that same conversation. It does seem like both teams are kind of
Maybe not necessarily thrown off guard, but definitely are taking it taking their time to
Come up with proper answers to what?
They throw with each other as we got them around our picked up by andex
Yeah, Soxa's looked incredibly good on this hero more so than any other Marana, and this
tournament in my opinion maybe would save as well being in that conversation, but there's
no setup right now for her, and she does look best when she's played with the Santor, she's
better than any kind of setup, and Darkseer doesn't do that for her.
Yeah, Amber's still in the pool, big fan of course with the Marana, but also you have
Iron Shell on you, you buy Mage Slayer with your Flameguard, you're dealing quite a lot
of damage over time and I feel like whether they want to straight-up pick it, no. This is the other
hero that we did mention, just one of the best pairings overall with the Darkseer. It has everything
like this hero has been very, very good for a very long time, slightly underrated in my opinion
because of what the hero does, like his scale, ability to take down any tanky hero, Tiny is one
of the tankiest heroes in the game, sending at 5,000, 6,000 HP in the super late game,
What's the tactic? That's never going to be a problem.
Yeah.
I do feel like Watson has to be thinking about Terrorblade now that he has this tusk.
Just that immense burst damage against the Tiny later on.
Because it's just such a good one-to-one carry matchup.
I mean, you could throw in any ranged hero, but
Watson does love his Terrorblade on 18, his PL on 18 if it's possible.
Maybe not with the Ember coming up.
And we've seen, like Yennex picked up Tusk, plus Morana.
This is something that Vici Gaming utilized very well against Vulcans.
Yesterday, it looked extremely strong because of the hero pairing, because you can always play together.
You have the combination between two of you. You can always play with the mid laner.
It does feel nice. On the other side, Darko-Long, a hero that may be coming into this team.
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A lot of damage. This is the SOTA Slardar. Heroes are gonna melt. At least supports have extra bit of like evasion coming up from this one, the Shadow Realm, so you have some protection.
For the Offlane, noticed he has been the Shining Star pretty much of the tournament. He is the guy that is sitting at 1.3 average deaths per game.
So, it's gonna be Underlord for him.
Danky guy, very good at AoE controlling what they want to do,
like especially pre-BKB, it's very good against the Snowballs save against the Tosca,
with the Blink Dagger, great against Marana.
I feel like this hero kind of fits in perfectly.
What they want to be doing in this game, the damage reduction,
is gonna be insane because you're playing against both physical cores as well.
And also, like, the item value that you are gonna be getting from your Shiva's,
from any armor item invasion that you're going to be buying is going to feel very good.
Yeah, even an early Crimson Bound would feel very good in this thing.
And this gives them the defensive power on Pivision that they lacked versus this Dark
Cereal Temple with Sardar.
Now if any play is made, you have this gate to come in with the Underlord, press the
Aura button, press the whatever it's called the thing on the ground, pit of Malus.
Yep.
Do we favor one draft over the other?
If I hear you both talking about the drafts, the Undex one seems maybe just a little bit
more well rounded.
I think P-Vision rounded it out very nicely with the Underlord.
It fits in very well.
Both drafts look very strong and it feels like for me, Undex is more tempo based, so they
need to kind of get the ball rolling and take every single objective, whereas P-Vision
are content to sit back and maybe pick their fights more carefully, respond to things.
drafts they they look very very solid like you should not underestimate the
damage that TA and Slaughter can do this is also Watson temporal assassin that
we're talking about he is the best temporal assassin player in the world
he just really shines on that hero and it's gonna be very interesting because
he's gonna be pushing the limits I would give maybe slight edge to Yandex but I
feel like both of the teams kind of got the draft that they wanted in this.
How are we feeling on timings? What are we looking for here?
If you're saying that P-Vision is happy to sit back and farm for now,
FED, do you think that they have what it takes to, if this game goes,
you know, the 95 minutes that Milosh wants it to go?
Do they have that mandatory?
Yeah, I do think so. And if I sit back and farm, I don't mean play defensively the whole game,
because if they're giving away tour mentors and version objectives to TA lineups,
she's going to snowball out of control.
but they don't necessarily have to take any bad fights in that 10-15 minute period of the game.
So just make sure that they're able to contest around these key objectives,
and I think Pivus are in a good spot in that case.
You're going to pick and choose their battles?
Ah, absolutely. I mean, this is just an insane amount of damage.
Like, all you need is one big pickoff.
By big, I mean, Kill a Hero on the map,
and T8 plus are going to turn this into Roshan objective, they're going to turn this into
Tormentor as well, so got to keep an eye on that.
We will keep an eye on that for sure, Yandex versus P-Vision in our grand semi-finals with
Cap and SVG.
The various world champions of the past have been eliminated, Falcons, Liquid, Tundra.
It's time for a new set of season champs.
P-Vision have been incredibly consistent and this is the best shot for them to surpass
their third place at last year's TEI.
But Avery, when it comes to consistency,
nobody beats Yandex of this year.
Since October, Yandex have had a podium finish
at every event they've attended
barring an errant PGL Valachio.
Nine tournaments of top three.
Now's their chance to lock in
yet another Grand Finals appearance.
And that is why this feels like a Grand Final in some sense.
These are the two teams everyone has said
are gonna make it there and they only have each other
in the way and there is a first one to get this series off on the boys satanic the young gun
give it away to be able to start things getting that early gold boost for uh dm oh yeah we're
still gonna have a bit of a bounty split because we've seen these dark series have some issues
in these lanes but i feel like this is a lane that uh you can actually do perfectly fine
the synergy's not great with morana but you know realistic there uh this is a lane you're just
eventually gonna try and get to the Dom. You can do some Crete Cutting, you can do some
Jungling, but it's not a high pressure lane. Satanic is gonna free farm down here pretty
much no matter what happens. So that gold injection for DM is gonna push him towards
a fast helm and that's a huge deal. You can free up the Murana to roam a little bit earlier,
maybe you go in towards that mid lane, maybe you go top. Those are the two lanes that I can
see going Yandex's way in this early game. If the TA and the Saurr get off to a fast start,
it almost doesn't really matter what happens in this all-plane. It's gonna bring the draft
together. You're gonna be able to pressure objectives super early. You're gonna have a lot
a lot of physical burst damage before the armor, before the low-dissorbs come online.
That's where the lineup can get out of control.
I think we should have seen more TA over the course of this tournament.
I'm kind of excited to see what Watson can do on it here, because I don't think this
hero is broken by any means.
I don't think it's the strongest day it's been in compared to some of the previous patches.
But some of these games, it sneaks through the draft.
People later pick these pucks, or some of these melee heroes that get abused by the
trap-cutting.
They're like, man, it looks like a great TA game.
I think this is a solid TA game.
It's not absolutely free not as here, but Watson is a master on this hero and he has a lot to play with here
So hopefully you can make it shine. Well, we'll see how he gets to the lane
So because this is a bit of a tough lane. You've got a lot of ways to burn through a fraction between these two heroes
Underlord is just a natural melee hero belief and
Tusk, I don't think is is gonna be a lane dominant five position up against these two heroes
There's not much he can really do it feel and if you vision punished one hero in this game
I feel it's this tusk
This is gonna be a rough one for Malady if they're snowballing this game. Yeah, it'll look good
But otherwise you're you're gonna have to play into the pits
A we avalanche a chains a bramble a terrorize the bushwhack is another a we still like there's so much a we control for you to go in
Next to your heroes this game and have impact as a toss
It almost looks impossible to ever get a snowball save off in the late game unless you have BKB on top of it.
So, this is another reason why I think if you're Yandex, you want to get ahead in this game.
Because if you're behind and you have to play defensive fights and rely on your two supports to kind of bail you out, I don't think it's possible.
There's too many follow-up stuns. There's going to be a global AWP pit.
Like, you just can't disengage from these fights.
So you either have to rely on a very strong BKB timing, or just kind of gain an edge and never let go of it and infuse faster of Shauns.
And you certainly have a very low cooldown lineup that if they can get ahead, they can kind of just keep us with non-stop action.
Could snowball there for Malady got away from what I assume was a pit right on TA, said.
At pit bramble blood grenade, you look like he's gonna take a lot of damage, gets bailed out, very nicely here.
Chainmail, already online for this underlord though. Lot of early armor investment, I like it against this pure physical lane, it's gonna pay off very nicely here.
And I think this game is gonna come down these two offlaners, maybe this year's.
These two offlaners have had some crazy games over their runs in EWC here and these teams
are relying on them to help control the map.
That's the biggest thing that I think they share in terms of similarities.
They both played these Dark Seers, Centaur, Bundler, Archetype Heroes, maybe a Digno
will come out in this series because they're pushing waves constantly, they're being really
annoying with the Dom creeps, they're giving their teams a lot of information and map control
to play off of.
That also gives them a lot of farm to make their impact felt in the teamfight itself.
There's going to be a lot of overlap in this all-play hero pool in this series, and it
might come down to who gets, like, you know, that extra one wave to hit their item a little
faster and could join that teamfighter make that play ahead of the other here.
I almost never expect Centaur to go through here.
It's just a bit too powerful for these two teams.
What do you make of this Darkseer lane?
Because he's matched up against Melee here, and we've seen many of the range matchups
the Darkseer suffers in lane, but at the same time, he feels like there is almost no value
to the wall in this game. Pretty terrible wall game. You're using it as the slow and chaos in the
fight rather than any illusion hero. Tiny is very good against Darkseer for a lot of these reasons.
Hard hero to burn out with shells. The wall is not really effective against his right click.
Surge is not that great against avalanche toss. So you get a lot going for it. You get a nice
courier snipe with some boots on it and some value. You can start pulling the waves which
Which, Woodwink, not gonna be the best at being able to stop that.
DM does lose the aggro there for a second.
And this is gonna be soon the time where Sox is gonna be freed up to make rotation where
he wants.
His arrows have not been fighting the mark in the bottom lane so far.
Maybe a bit of a warm up for him.
He's just trying to secure this helm for DM before he leaves entirely.
I thought you might have left earlier, just because you got that early first blood injection.
maybe DM dies if you leave him, but if you can make something happen on the other lanes, it probably feels a bit better.
As no one, he's about to hit level 6 for free on this Ember against the Slaughterer, and no pressure went into him at all to get here.
So he's very happy with this situation, even getting aggressive.
Yeah, the pressure is going the other way. Cheers, Junior, getting very low. Magic 1 keeps him alive for now.
Now Pop and the Parry tower shots.
There's no one who now has to pop his Magic 1 to stay up and at him.
That won't guarantee his level 6 here, though.
though no support to be into that mid lane still holding on to it in fact they
are looking bottom trying to snag a quick kill on the squirrel here see if you can land the arrow
two collards just gonna die to the right flicks here but the Marana maybe similarly in fact
to calls not dead yet DM the snowball it'll finish him off now the DM is joined in the
ion shell is gonna force the vision away as much as they can up to level three on
that ion shell you got to be careful and support satanic he's a pee pee boy but
you don't want to start chain feeding into this darkseer lane.
Looking for that Underlord 6, looking for the Ember 6, that's where you have a lot more map mobility
to respond to some of these aggressive plays from Andix, and that's always going to be a concern.
You want to get aggressive with this lineup, you have a lot of dive potential,
Slaughter, Darkseer, Ki-Aid, these are all heroes that naturally dive really well.
But when you commit to that dive, there's a lot of turnaround you have to play into.
It's a very strong defensive lineup across the map, Underlord can always pose you problems
When you're trying to get aggressive into one of the other lanes, so you really have to keep the mobility in mind
You have to keep the resource management in mind and pick your opportunities well here if you're in next
Going into the underlord solves a little bit of that
To supports rotating in because wants to meet the health here too many creeps are dying under tower and he can't hit any of them
For fear of being caught by just a single disabled into the firestorm might be the death of them
Meanwhile seven minute wisdom shrines are coming up
And it does look like no one is a bit more free to rotate if he wants, but he is opted not to.
So we're just gonna have a split. No early aggression from either side,
making an invasion or anything like that.
P-Vision way happier with just static lanes that the Ember's doing fine and the Underlord's doing fine
because there's not ever gonna be pressure going into this tiny.
And meanwhile, there's a decent amount going into that Templar assassin.
Man, this Lordar keeps on getting low, trying to hit it with a retic, but a beautiful arrow stops that.
If he hit- It's all defense though.
Yeah, and I'm looking at this underlords denies right now
He bought the TA up here Watson didn't really go jungle early. He didn't do extra stacks
So you're looking at what 22 denies on notice is TA is down that network chart for a reason
How do you look under the snowball out of here?
And he'll get it on the creep way will he get far enough away though
He's still gonna be inside the pit and they'll run him down
Oh no, he just desperately trying to get even a single CS, but that just ends up yet another deny for notice.
23 denies.
Completely in control.
He's got to be a beast in this game.
He's a big problem here over Andix in the teamfight, especially the supports.
Even the Slaughter kind of suffers.
You need B Gibbies or you need to get to a point where you just overwhelm his armor entirely,
which, again, when you're behind, it becomes harder to do.
You can have a fast Lotus or there could be Crease in this lineup.
Discals are going to be great for both teams in this game.
Harrow?
Harrow does land. He's got a regent room in the pocket though.
They need an overwhelming amount of damage to kill him, and he's able to jump away to his rendered.
Still though, they can chase after the supports. Maybe get one kill here.
Here comes the Underlord though.
Through the gate, or maybe not, actually gets gone on by Nalady and Watson.
They're trying to stop him right now, hit him with a snowball once.
Now he's trying to get through the gate and get away from them.
Dies all the same.
Nice pickup for them.
Yeah, that's such a big boon for Watson who was otherwise losing this lane considerably
Needed the experience as well
You can always go into the jungle or do stacks as a TA but right now Tharcy was kind of taking your triangle
So you just have to exist up here for a little more time get a couple more levels, and then you're smooth sailing
Those traps really help secure the lane a lot more whether you are seeing the rotations from supports or just the slow helping you disengage from
some aggression
And it's DM who has quietly overtook the, uh, Tiny and the Underlord, named Emworth.
Trying to battle it out with this Heledom creep.
Point blank arrow, Centaur getting in front of him. It's gonna be killed, but the damage is done.
Satanic will be run down, so nice rotation back through the gate.
It really felt like Yandex was struggling there in the first 6 or 7 minutes of this laning phase, but...
Now that the rotation's in, it almost feels like they're on maneuvering, P-Vision.
I think the rotation power is stronger here in the early game.
That's kind of why I wanted to see the Marana leave earlier.
But, it's actually made the right call. This Darkseer is mega-fat.
He found some such kills with this Marana. Now he has...
two earn charges. Still has a blood grenade.
This Marana is pretty strong on the map in terms of that rowing power right now.
It's going to be quite a difference of map control, too,
because DM is slowly going to chip away at this bottom tower.
They're going to bring the Underlord mid to try and fight this room.
Big investment.
Terrorize on two, underneath the pit with the Bramble Sound.
That'll easily kill Chur Junior and run down the Marauder as well.
So, Key Vision, a heavy investment of heroes in the mid lane, but it does pay off.
Absolutely. The second you get caught in any of these little routes, you're gonna get chained stunk forever.
There's just no way to take advantage of mobility in this game as you index until you have...
I want to say either BKB or like multiple dispels, like maybe Greaves plus Lotus Darksea or something,
or something can bail you out of that kind of situation if you're a slaughter but this is a lot
this is a lot of gold to get to so in the early game you have to be aware it's gonna be caught
trying to get aggressive with another bad blow, cool down it's gonna end up in the bramble pulled
in by the bush whack no one's not gonna keep it up though yeah the same reason it's a terrible
tuss game it also makes it a pretty rough slaughter game right to her that are very dependent on
their mobility hate the lockdowns that p-vision is going to be thrown their way so it's going to be
It's gonna be a rough ride for those two until BKB, or at least BKB can slaughter.
Let's see if Malady ever gets a BKB of its own.
I like P-Vision's odds in a lot of the fights until those big items come out. Then this game will change a lot.
But until then they have spell advantage. The more they can force subscribers, particularly through December,
the more pain they're gonna inflict on some of these heroes that just can't get out of the chains done.
I do think that's uh,
Because they have a Templar Assassin and a Sardar, obviously Roshan is a big advantage for Yandex when they hit that BKB timing and feel confident about their teamfights.
I do wonder if P-Vision will have the chance to take a Rosh themselves before the BKBs come alive.
Maybe their lineup is not very good at Duel.
This is not a Roshan priority lineup.
It kind of requires everybody in that pit to bring it down to an efficient rate.
And that's kind of Satanic's call. He wants to do something like that with his pines, vacuum, but DM nice pick off.
Surrounded and the gate makes things a lot more efficient. Straight back into mid. Yeah mid lane they're gonna run down, Malady.
Mid lane shadow to anti-taction for. Yeah, I got him.
Takes a while to die. Can you get anything in return here? Slaughter wants to take this fight, but he's still outnumbered.
Yeah, nobody's around.
Barrow is coming through, but as soon as that's dodged, then there goes your entire support.
Cheer, Junior enters the VVS way through the brambles, but another round of slight chains.
And finally, damage takes in.
Underlord TP away, oh that was a close call, but notice makes it out and completes his Radovatos in the process.
So now the catch is really beginning to amp up from the VVS.
This Slaughter is so far away from being able to survive our impact in situations.
The vessel is done here for no one.
In getting the last hits on those kills,
that is exactly who you want,
powering up to the first fighting out of here.
He indexes in a little trouble across the map.
Too much mobility for them to deal with right now and not enough counter-thread.
His T.H. is just not powered up yet.
You're still looking for that vessel.
You're still looking for the blink on the Slaughter.
Then this threat will come together.
You can kind of play through moonlight shadow and try and pick someone off bird
You know threat and satanic down here. You can't die once those armor items are online
But he has sapped out here forever
You want to deny the tower? No, let's leave it up bait someone in for
We saw the power of these tier ones in our series yesterday
Oh, no, it is a really nice objective to
The player out for as long as you keep it up though 9 HP. I mean surely
Well, there's a limit, right?
At the same time, yeah, okay, he's finally gonna deny it.
DM just keeps on kinda throwing helmet dom creeps down the lane.
Thinkin' eventually he's gonna get that tower, so maybe he's not baiting at hero kills,
but he's baiting in some valuable stuff anyway.
Look, they double scan down here and both hit.
As, uh, P-Vision making a way for this wisdom tribe from multiple angles.
It does mean it's gonna be double wisdom for P-Vision.
Just a head on the little timings here, and again, their spell power is stronger right now, so even if the item timings are the same, you're still a fan in these fights. You just can't get the impact out of your Tusk Marana here.
Yeah, the index said they clearly knew that was coming, they made the read, they made the scans. I think they made the overall call, we shouldn't fight right now, we need to get our first round of items, which there's the Deso, there's the Blink Dagger on Slardar, now it's coming together.
together. You still kinda want PKBs, but you can make, you know, one or two boots.
You can get pick-offs now, you can threaten some of these cores pushing the lane. Particularly
the Underlord, if he gets too aggressive top, you're gonna go there and slay him. The Ember
mid might be a tough grab, you'd have to chain stun him with an arrow. Likely to threaten
no one here. It's kinda the same with the Tiny, who by the way, is about to have a full shadow
blade. They're gonna go for the Underlord, but it's not in a deep lane position, it's
In the vision triangle, that's a lot which is a top area to fight in their reinforcements are already there
Satanic TV to the offlane tower cut them off from behind now
Malady who's looking to join those two and their smoke play from now he gets caught as well
It's just a overly impressive move. I was gonna say roach just walking by but now he's giving no one a little little toss there
love tap
That feels like a forced play. Like we have Sardar Blink, we need to do something with it.
Yeah. That's not the area that the TA can connect to unless you're already running there.
Ooh, Aero slips on by because...
Our Quill pops and just decided to turn around.
Fight the two of them, hits the terrorize. Ooh, I think it's one shot by the Mel pit, so...
It's gonna be your first bit of charges here. The Sardar is back up in a play, and again, low cooldowns on these heroes.
So, even when you do kill Yandex, they're back up in 30 seconds in infighting shape.
Fast response, and that response was important.
One, you needed to stem the bleed in here, but two, that was the shadowblade time you're
running in there, ready to join that engagement.
It just didn't get set up properly, so you don't get value out of that reveal.
You don't get to snipe the TA or something crazy like that.
Just back to farming for Satanic.
Did not like what he saw there, trying to re-engage.
Simple teams have shown that they can defend their own side of the map.
Another team has shown that they can really offensively, you know, get in there.
Which makes sense, you look at these two lineups, like there's a lot of turnaround, there's a lot of annoying spells to run into, you're doing it blind especially, and just not fun spells to phase tank.
Yeah.
So that was Deso Chargers for TA?
Yeah, that was fast.
He picked up Deso, got a kill, now he's blinked.
It'll be the highest net worth here, it's kind of inevitable.
Come down to those Roshan's. You can start accelerating these objectives.
Or killing more Doff Creeps.
That's number four. Number five, I don't know.
He's propelling DM to a fast Lotus here, which I like. You gotta get some multiple Dispels.
I was gonna... I'm curious if he was gonna go Crease, or just don't see this item a lot.
This is a pretty good Crease game, but he just wants the Dreads.
He wants to keep the farm rate up a little bit here.
And allow the Lotus Orb to fail some of his boys out.
Who do you think of Malady buying out of Shard?
Trust Shard is not one that I think of as, you know, willing to buy.
Pot him on the Shadow Blade, and with the Bedlam, they burn through that refraction really quickly.
Atlan's Bedlam, refraction goes down, and exposed, Watson dies.
That was a smoke bypassing multiple wards that catches Watson.
Off guard, big connection for this tiny.
Not only do you get his shadow-weighted wall, do you take down the farm accelerator here on the side of the index.
Pit. Rod. Back into the pit. Malady. Trying to get off a snowball here, but now he's been chained into another pit.
Ten seconds. Up and tango. And now Jiru Jr. is going to walk into a bramble as well.
Now he does get the clear here from TM, turn around, backing wall, but not much damage behind it with the sword already dead.
The Templar assassin reviving in five seconds.
Nothing behind it, P-Vision.
Like faster and faster in the index or shrub might be keep up.
That's right, at this time on the map, we've seen a time and time again,
if you let this girl have a free game and you can just start kicking people off,
the map closes in real fast.
And this is, you talk about this Tusk Shard, I'm not sure this would have been my first investment
because there's so many roots in this game.
And you just can't take a chain, bravo, dude.
You don't have an opportunity to do anything with the shard.
Get the kind of preactively use it and start the fights on your form your terms, but so far it's all aggression
Repetition
Yeah, Lotus Arps are gonna be very helpful DM. It does not go the full hum of overlord, but picks up a faster Lotus
I guess another thought would be that him buying a shard also means that you know
Maybe one of his corpse gets the shard or sure they take the torment. He talked about that in an interview, right?
It's a essentially contribute net worth to one of his other bigger heroes
That makes sense. I feel like if you know that you're winning the game that's 20 minutes
But that is certainly not the case in this setup. It feels like the vision are far more likely to be taking this tournament
I'll see who gets it might pay off if they can secure the objective
This is a lineup that wants to take it for sure
They might just smoke down there and prioritize it even from the dire side
Another pick off to the tiny map is shrinking right now and Satanic's getting more and more aggro.
The Shadow Play to Arkun, now a Silver Edge to be finished.
Another dog creep as well.
You just have to get PKBs at some point in this game.
That's when it's starting to feel like it's just too much spell power and the ads is already done for notice.
to look at your Junior's net worth.
He's 3,000 behind the Ember spirit.
Like, when is he gonna get a VKB?
He is lucky to get out alive here,
as the gate comes in a little bit late.
You have to win two fights and big objectives
for him to eventually get there.
There's just not enough space for the Sauron Department,
anything right now.
You have to start looking for some kills.
Well, if they wanted to,
they could make a play for the Tormentor right now.
Gates on cooldown, it's a big spell.
No gate, P vision, mostly playing middle and top.
They're collapsing towards mid.
What a different kind of objective here.
P vision, they're going to make a smoke of their own.
It's going to break.
Managed to get the energy.
Up to the shadow.
Well, Mauryd, but Alvin Church, Jr. has no PKB
to defend himself against Maloney's though.
And maybe he can get out.
Gambler's here, it's going to pursue.
Meanwhile, Templar assassin has to keep his distance
up against his underlord.
But a Denver spirit jumps right on top
that Watson's getting low.
A firestorm on top.
It has to be picked up by the snow ball.
It's his only chance to survive here.
Watson, though, there's just too many Disables!
Hey, Vision, they own this area.
They own every part of the map that all five can be there.
That fight can maybe go their way
if they all jump the same target together
and they get the TA in there,
but the second that pitfire storm
caught the two of them on the high ground,
the fight's just joined in.
You can't single target focus anybody down,
and now you're just stuck in roots for days.
It's just miserable.
I guess Tusk Shark hope Watson out of it a little bit,
and then he gets snowballed.
Like, you're actually dodging a decent amount
the roots. It's just, oh well, still more. Everybody has something, that's an arcane
rune ever on top of it. Avalanche is a disgusting spell. There's just too much to deal with
right now. That was a risky fight to take. You paid a big price. They also bought yet
another shard. This time on the darks here. I think this one is very good for split pushing
at times and I can see how it's helpful, but I also feel like you're very much under
under the gun, right? You need to get to this 30, 35 minute timing where you have these
VKPs.
It's the way it is.
It's weird that they feel like the shard is worthwhile when you've got to get to these
other items.
Because otherwise, something like this happens.
There's just no way out.
Yeah.
He's just stuck.
Nobody has any four staffs.
Nobody has a load of serve in that situation.
His DM is bottom lane right now, trying to get to blink.
You have to find a way to create more map pressure without getting picked off, or win the fights.
You're running out of options here as the index, as Underlord is just going to control this game.
Every time that global pit is available, it's going to result in a big kill here.
Don't have the core items to escape from it.
Unfortunately, the Darkseer can put pressure on the map without showing his hero.
Thanks to the Honodonkri, that is the one way you can combat this Underlord.
He's doing a decent job. He's constantly forcing somebody back bottom.
Fortunately for P-Vision they have very noble heroes like you can run the ember down here chasing out a little bit and still connect to some play top if you really play it well, right?
It's not as if you have to fully respond to the darksier pressure in this game and there he goes, right? He chases about bottom, instantly back top.
You still have your threat up here. You have to try and take advantage of that.
Gotta get a kill for Chirichunior, but run into a sentry, a sentry that was gonna hang out here pretty soon.
Did you even have that damage on that plate? It's gonna be close.
Sentry also spotted both Satanic and Malady in their confrontation.
The warning game is really important.
For these pickoffs leading to the objectives, it's all gonna start with the vision.
That's where you can maybe rely on some of these TA traps to give you a little extra boost.
They're not getting killed right now, no gem on the side of the vision.
This could be a game where they pick one up very soon, just to try and eliminate the extra pickoff threat that would snowball into something like a Roshan.
Chira Jr. still hunting down here.
Soxa almost has a 4-staff.
So they will have a little bit extra help.
Probably his 4-staff only gets you out of one of these pits.
Which with the Ags, he's got multiple pits to be throwing in, not to mention the Rotobate
Toast slight chains, etc.
A big move from P-Vision.
This could be where they take over all the objectives if they get the right kind of pick
off here, running into Watson would be perfect, and even if they get the outlights on him.
He's caught, pulled away by the Tusk Shore, but it doesn't take you far enough out.
You're better just leaving him there.
There's, again, so much AOE control in this lineup.
There's just no way the Tusk is going to bail you out of these situations.
The shard is like, okay, it doesn't actually get you fully out.
It only pulls the Tusk into danger.
At least you get the hold hands, both of them.
That's true.
and Satanic playing a carry tiny.
You've got this kind of control.
He's going to be banging down objectives.
The top tier two is almost dead.
He takes down the bottom tier one.
I also love the nine-class blink here,
because I think Dark Willows are here.
Early items don't really mean as much
as you being able to have presence around the map.
Get that extra wave and not die.
We talked about how important is that
unkillable supports in this matter right now?
Yeah.
Your support duo that scales in a way
where it's so obnoxious to kill them as a core,
it almost becomes futile.
Dark Willow can take advantage of this blink
with the Shadow Realm.
She can push that extra wave and blink out
if you try and blink on her.
Like, it gives you a lot of survivability in this game.
It's very annoying for these heroes
that want to blink in and stun you.
Toxin, let's get a good one shot.
Avalanche toss.
And he's off the same on the other side.
He's not able to split push, Dan.
Able to get rid of the cursed crown.
He's going to show on the map.
Nope, blinks up.
And because there's no gate for another 15 seconds,
he is able to get away.
I think we've also seen this development
on supports over the course of this event,
and maybe like the previous one or two just meta-wise.
We're seeing a lot more earlier blinks,
not as an initiation tool, but as a,
I'm gonna wrap the map or set myself up somewhere
that's really annoying and have that escape mechanism.
Like it's a weird development of the item
that I don't think we've really seen
as consistently before in Dota.
And the heroes that can take advantage of it
tend to be more popular.
I think hoodwinks are another great example.
We've seen a lot of early blink of the blink, where if you're just playing off of extra reach for the sun,
have extra mobility across the map, I can get that one extra wave and get out.
There's no chance you catch me, or I get that extra snag in a fight.
It's very high skill. It pays off when you can land it, and especially if you're the aggressor in the teamfights.
And no one perfectly plays, though. They aren't going to get the initiation on him anyway.
Thought this was gonna be another situation where it breaks the smoke and he gets away
But they had to get the initiation in it's shot came through vacuum on a satanic's along him down
But he still managed to get a toss on the illusion to kill malady
Jira junior wants to keep this going actually pushing notice back into the team as best he can but it's not good enough
Malady, but Watson can't really go into this. You're seeing playing off of hitting the
The traps and trying to get the sideblade damage, but he can't actually break into them
and go for that underlord kill. No, there's no way you want to commit in there.
Until you have PKB, you're just gonna get disabled for days. There's already an assault cure us on Satanic, by the way.
Yeah.
So you kind of have to respect the armor in this lineup. And this ember almost lives. He has an illusion to ruin the boss.
No one is very close to getting out of this situation.
And red execution.
Yeah, I mean, if he has the Sheevis done, I think he does live there.
Oh, yeah, 100%. And they're gonna have the triple armor item. They're gonna have AC, they're gonna have Sheevis, they have limits.
So...
This was one of your better chances to take a fight if you were Yandex when it comes to the offensive damage.
Maybe they can still take another one when they have their BKBs, but for now they're going to be picked off around the map as an attempt to do something about Roshan is denied.
That's a big Rosh to gain here for P-Vision.
It feels more influential to take it away from this Yandex line of things than what you even need for.
Like, I don't think Tiny needs an agency escape. Let's be honest.
No, I think you can use it well, but just denying this from the TA, it makes it so much harder for
Watt to play the fights. He's kind of relying on getting a second life here at some point to be able
to go in. There's a real risk even with the BKB now when you go in, you pop BKB if you get kited a
little bit. If those big stuns don't land when you're there to deal the damage, that BKB starts
to wear out that that fight does not look so great for a long run. They do at least get formatted
with her. And then you get a Marana shard, so all the shard buying didn't really pay off
here in the long run for that at least. I mean I'm not a TA player, so I don't know how influential
the Templar Assassin shard is. I guess your reflection can be cast while disabled, it's
actually potentially important when you're getting tiny Shadowblade initiate. Oh yeah,
I was about to say it's good against Tiny, and this is supposed to be a decent match
for TA in terms of playing the map but a lot of the disables in this game like
casting the refraction wall you're in the pit or something whatever yeah
Satanic's threat continues to grow 9 2 and 7 this hero looks unstoppable in the
right hands of the bed. The index are just getting more and more desperate to
ride out the map leading to more and more pick offs. They could feel it the
the map just closing in around them.
The vision, thanks to the fact they've got a shadow blade,
they've got an underlord with this global presence
combined with an Ember spear with global catch as well.
But there's the two big enemies for Yandex.
T.A. and Sardar both online.
This means you can full commit in the fight
and try and take down that big juicy target
that you want to at the start.
Indigase, it looks a lot more difficult.
Yeah, the question is, like,
are they gonna have to damage right there?
The defensive capabilities to allow them to push through these disables, and that's a very strong timing,
but are the, because they're ahead, our pre-vision now too tanky against the physical damage.
It looks like that. There's just so much armor in this line-up already.
41 armor on timing right now.
Like, a close maze only takes away so much, you know?
And if CTNX wants him to, two minutes to get the leap away, but CTNX just falls him through with the blink.
Now the pullback of the Harpoon, Shira Jr. doesn't want to have to use BKB here.
They snowballed, tried to dodge the Cursed Crown, and slipped back inside the base.
Malady, Volotis, nope, he's stuck in the rock.
Now, Avalanche, and he's dead.
Man, these heroes just cannot get away, no matter what slug he's gonna use.
And they're gonna either force the BKBs, or they're gonna kill you at this point.
Shira Jr. pops the BKB and makes a run for the Fountain.
That is not what you want to see out of your first usage of both the Templar and the Slardar.
They didn't even go on a hero, really.
Sure, they got the dark willow, but they haven't threatened a core at all, and they're immediately going to make a play for this, which is a bold move considering the DKBs are on cooldown, they're going to try from the tiny here.
Massive hit.
That catches all of these heroes and Avalanche over the top, nice little snowball dodge, but here comes another pit, holding back three heroes, they turn back to Malady, the easy kill for now.
They can't do anything here.
They pull in Watson, Watson's sucking all of these pits, and this looks impossible.
There's no shot. You can't focus anybody you used to be kidding.
GT, that's how he tapped it early!
Domination here, another 30 minute win from T-Vision.
That can't have been last longer than 40 answers, T-Vision.
It doesn't feel like it. They just run you over.
The second they start to gain a little map control, they just never look back.
The lanes get pushed in really aggressively.
Someone gets picked off. They get an objective.
It becomes even more difficult to fight.
There's just very few openings for you to call your way back from this game.
And I think we saw the power of this Undulo thing, that height.
If you do not get the Dispels up fast enough, if you do not get the BKBs up fast enough,
and take that one important fight, to give you a chance to dominate the map,
it becomes impossible to play the game. There's just no hope.
I think this pick was just too debilitating for the entire squad.
Like, you're forcing them to buy an early load of sword, early force gas, shards, whatever it is.
Everything is, I need to deal with these pits, I need to deal with these pits, and then you're just going at damage.
You don't have a way to kill these heroes who are all just itemizing to deal with your actual direct CA.
Early Shivas, early AC, early Lotus, armor across the board.
I think all three of their cores had 30 plus armor
by like 25 minutes in that game.
Yeah.
But what are you doing?
There's lots in here.
There's not enough deaths of charges in the world
to cut through all this HP.
So they really punished the Slaughter big.
On paper, I think this is gonna be a really hard Slaughter game.
They made it in impossible, sorry.
Too many bad matches.
I think if you have to maybe just chain game mid
and hindsight with this Piranha,
like I don't know, does the Darkseer network
really count for anything in this game. I think the slaughter has to snowball for you to have a shot of taking fights.
You got very low priority, it's not a heroic and new stats, and no one played the mid lane really well and got some help.
So, Key Vision, they alleviated a lot of the potential difficulties where I think the index did not snowball their threats hard enough.
That'll be something to address going into game two, because they got dominated here.
Yeah, their very first game, 41 minute victory, they had a 48 minute victory against Reconyx,
but yeah, most of these are in that 30 to 35 minute march, just extremely dominant victories
from P-Vision when they do get the win.
P-Vision take game one of the semifinals and in quite the fashion as well, I was expecting
maybe a little bit more back and forth to come out, but it was not meant to be like
that for Yandex they did not get off to the greatest start that they were probably hoping for Lacoste.
Yeah, this is the type of lineup that wants to snowball a lot of control between 15-25 minutes.
This is what this lineup is kind of built for, to take over the map, take over the objectives,
Roshan get a pick off, turn that into Tormentor and take control of certain areas of the map where
they're going to be getting the kills, they're going to be utilizing this kind of infinite damage
they have from Slardar, Dessalon and PA. But the lineup never came online. Like we saw Slardar
really struggling. I think no one really pushed the limits on the hero in the mid lane, making sure
that this Slardar is also shut down. This is not a hero that can easily recover. And we were seeing
some like downfall to it, plus also having the global presence from this Underlord, kind of similar
in a sense where you're playing against the Dawnbreaker knowing exactly that that plus one hero
is going to come in and making sure that you are also needing to bring extra hero, maybe even extra
to do here because the damage reduction and the kill threat that he brings.
Yeah, as we noticed, had a fantastic start a little offline.
Yeah, he really did. I mean, his CS was unbelievable and they did manage to trade a few kills on him
when the rest of QVision were making a movement. But for the most part, what that Underlord gave
that game was just so valuable. And watching that play just felt like there was so much
shit on the ground that it was so hard for the Andex to play into it. Like every time any kind of
The fight was attempted by Yandex, all of a sudden there's this pit of malice with the
Bramble Maze, with the Terrorize, with the Tiny Avalanche coming in, there is so much
AoE control and when you're working with heroes like Tusk and Slardar and TA that need that
maneuverability in the fight, this just stabilitates them way too much.
It gets pretty difficult, I also mentioned the itemization coming out from P-Vision that
it's going to be pretty straightforward when it comes down to picking up the items that's
gonna give you the value so you see nine class having business pillar getting
extra bit of armor from that relatively early she was guarded so all from no one
and also satanic completely skipping the BKB this is one of the few times where
you see Tiny not needing the BKB because he's playing against many BKB
piercing abilities he's playing against this Deso overmovement physical damage
so he also tanks up tanks up and also gets early AC which does benefit the
whole team and also you see noticed him getting the Lotusaur which does give an
armor, so kind of double dipping on the value on top of that, and also picking up a Ghost
Sector, making sure that he is not going to be dying, and this is one of those games
where if you're playing from behind, you don't really have enough money to buy a Nullifier,
so you can't really just burst him from 100 to 0.
Yeah, I felt like this game got out of control at some point for Yannick, so it made me wonder,
is there in their draft, not a Plan B built in, where they can make a comeback?
really it's a very one-note kind of draft like blink in versus somebody use your overwhelming
amount of damage and just snowball off of that. So if you don't get that pace starting
for you on the index, there's really not that much you can do and I do feel that maybe the
Slardar was actually not that good within this game. Like Slardar has been introduced
as this really big counter pick to the spirits, especially Urspray in particular and the puck
that we see very often but versus Ember spirit it looked kind of underwhelming actually.
hero while he does trade with him decently he has no means to remove the
fling guard and he doesn't punish it enough with cost. Yeah he definitely feels
felt like that in this one making sure that you know he has really good game
like Sardar is not a hero that again can easily recover I think Kassar talked
about it this is the hero that if he's off to a bad start you need your blink
you need your shard you can't really skip your shard so it's kind of like you
need to spend the 1500 gold to get it and then your BKB is gonna get delayed
which we'll also see multiple times he goes in and a lot of the times he doesn't get the chance
to get out because the pet of malice wrote of a toss this infinite control to have was also tiny
i think satanic but an extremely good game he was hunting down he killed satsa i believe two
times solo and also being everywhere but also having that the tankiness like it's very easy to
play a game once you have these that's called unkillable heroes that go in provide vision for
the team and also have a little bit of a bail option with dark willow behind them well you know
you know, maybe with some defensive items like a four staff,
just making sure that you can get out of trouble.
Yeah, that tiny-armed Satanic was able to join fights,
Effie, very early on.
Yeah, I mean, that was the big key factor in this game for me,
from what took it from being even,
where both teams are making trades,
to actually being strong in Key Vision's favor.
So here in this clip, we're gonna see,
this is Satanic's first big move with nine classes Willow,
and they smoke and they find the perfect target here
in Watson's TA.
Like this is just the dream scenario if you are this tiny and then if we go on to this next clip here
Just a few seconds afterwards because of this pickoff on TA
They were able to apply pressure to this mid lane to this mid tower and that 8 has from underlord comes in clutch here
You just have this like big pit. It's not easy to take and so you did unfortunately tries to help here
Just gets avatarsed and maybe can manage to sprint away
But you can't really run away from this draft if you're not the one setting the tempo and in this last clip
We're going to see kind of a similar situation in a sense that
Satanic's Tiny just gets to join whatever he wants.
And this is really key from no one to be able to come in and control.
But he does this nice wrap around, gets the Ava on and the heroes on Yandex
could not really play versus these heroes.
No, they really could not.
It also feels like oftentimes when we talk about
any team really and a lot of the teams that we're talking about today,
we frequently focus on the support heroes with good reason,
because they're the ones making a lot of the moves.
But the cost, I guess, the reason why Yannix's supports couldn't really make moves, is that
because of the slaughter being basically a known factor here, or what was that about?
Yes, I mean, when you shut down this type of a lineup, Templar Assassin, she also falls
off, she doesn't feel comfortable playing with the slaughter, he doesn't have BKB, and
also the Offlane, like DM didn't really have that hero that kind of goes in, again, it
goes back to slaughter, not having the greatest team, which makes it very easy for the supports
on the other side to like even itemize and we talked about like how they're not really
susceptible to dying to both of the course to Ada Slaughter or to Templar Assassin because
they have built an invasion, they have Shadow Realm, but a lot of value that they're getting
out of these spells and this lineup, this diorama lineup, what they want to do is blink
in, kill a hero and then play 4v5 and we've never got the chance to see that.
Yeah, this game, it feels to me like it was a strategic win and with the one big difference
maker being that mid lane Effie, where no one of course did very well against Syro
Juniors Slardar.
Is this series going to come down to that, you think, because these teams are both so
good and both so close in skill?
Yeah, I mean we heard Sokso in his interview say that he thinks whoever came with the better
ideas will win today and I feel like P-Vision had an excellent idea versus DJ Slardar in
particular, like picking that Ember early and bringing it in and also Duel taking
Hedwing and Dark Willow, support Duel. We don't see too often because one is
usually banned or taken from the enemy team. It made it so that the Murana plus
Tusk support Duel on the other side couldn't really play that effectively
either. So moving into this game too, I think Yandex has to go in a completely
different direction. Yeah, also last pick Underlords. This was kind of like, I'd say
If we could see this Temporal Assassin potentially coming in for the index, they could also potentially see it coming most definitely.
And they prepared a really good answer.
They picked this Underlord who had a global presence, reduces the damage, physical damage from both of the cores as well.
And also, he's the body.
A lot of times you see this guy running in and not getting focused because you can't really kill him.
And really like a bit of a switcheroo, we've seen good amounts of Underlords just straight up going for Aged and Scepter.
He did squeeze in a row of ATOS making sure that they have that extra bit of a control extra bit of a catch because they didn't really have like the reliable catch they had ember but also it also speeds up the tempo and we see I would say
Be vision team being like the scariest between 25 and 40 minutes where they tend to close out most of their games. So where do you want to see them take into
I wouldn't necessarily say that this is anything wrong with that draft.
I actually favor that draft by slight margin, I would say, but it's got to come down to
that because both of these teams are going to exploit every single mistake that you make.
I think they're going to be going for something different.
I think they're going to be looking into potentially getting maybe invoker for CJ relatively early
on, maybe not in the first phase, but also to see the slightly bigger picture, maybe
have like a draft that also doesn't fall off, especially if they're getting run at 30 minutes in.
Yeah, I think also maybe they thought a lot within their draft on Yandex about Earth Spirit,
how they want to break the combo and how they want to address it. But they didn't,
I think, expect them to take that Dark Willow there, which made Tossus's game really difficult.
And I would be surprised if we see the Dark Willow make it through for that game too,
for 9-class.
We're going to find out how things will change in game 2. Of course,
Because yesterday we had quarterfinals happen and things were heating up already with two
teams making it through there and we're going to have a little bit of a flashback of that
with the Saudi Arabia radio columns.
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We're getting ready to cast Yandex vs. P-Vision.
Avery, this is a pretty tense matchup. Pretty much both these teams are the favorites.
Whoever goes on to the Grand Finals is going to be the favorite for that Grand
Finals. So, simple question. Who's walking away the victor here?
Well, I would not count BB team out. I think as we talked about this series, if
both these teams view it as the finals, what happens after one of these teams
wins? Do you put too much energy, too much of your emotional momentum in this
series, and they get caught off guard by BB in that Grand Final? That's a real
possibility. So you need to win this series in the right way.
It's a right way. We can't overdo it. I think it's a nice 2-1 with a close game 3.
Well Laura, but I thought you were saying like in you don't want to expend too much energy,
you want to get the 2-0. Just get it done and over. But you don't want to get too cocky.
Alright man, final. You have to overbuild that ego a little bit.
That's right. You have to be like humbled in a game 1, respecting 2,
in a close game 3 where you figure some stuff out, and you're like, all right,
We're respecting our opponents in this event. Let's move on. If I had to pick a winner in this series,
I think P-Visions looked a little better. I think so, too. The Drafting's looked a little cleaner,
so I'm going to lead them, but this is anybody's to take. When it comes to the Drafting, what's
the number one hero you're going to be looking out for in this series? Ooh, I'm looking at the
mid lane. I'm looking at the Ember in particular because I think that hero's over-performed. I'm
looking at Puck from a bad side. It's only picked Puck. It's only picked Puck. Don't do it. Yeah,
because it hasn't been. And I think Urster is kind of that middle territory. So I'm looking at the
Spirit heroes the storms all that for mid who's gonna get more momentum in this
series and who can pop off all right well whatever here do get picked we're
just hoping it's gonna be a banger of a series
Game 2 of Team Yandex vs P-Vision coming your way here from Dota 2 at the eSports World Cup.
One of these two teams will be meeting BB Team in the Grand Finals here in Paris and so
so far, it's P-Vision that takes game one of this best of three semifinals and it wasn't
that close, but it was little strategic wins that allowed them to take the victory.
And that's the downside, I think, with a series like this, from a viewer perspective.
Absolutely, because these are the top tier teams, these are the two teams that everybody
pretty much gave respect to.
They're going to be potentially being the toughest opponents and winning this EWC because
the reason that if you make a mistake they're going to punish it and that small mistake is going
to transition into another big mistake and it's not going to be close game because these are the
type of a team that are not going to be giving you that second chance. I have a question for you Lacoste.
What on earth happened to Huskar and the Huskar players? Because I feel like going into this
tournament it was a hero that everyone thought about and talked about and we even saw covered in
the draft but as it's progressed nobody cares about Huskar. Ember just gets to play without
getting huskard ever you can pick him up early in the draft and you never have to worry about
huskard what's going on you i had the same question and i feel like maybe like this is
teams got better overall this is not a cheesy pick by any means because like we've been in
huskard meta for a really long time where all of these melee mid laners have been on the receiving
end but i feel like you could have potentially squeezed that in maybe maybe we're not seeing
something maybe we're not like having the info from potentially screams that
did happen that the house guard did get like quite a lot of bad reputation maybe
because he didn't really have good win rate so hard to tell I'm gonna go out on
a limb and say if you're not willing to play house guard versus ember and your
slaughter has proven to be ineffective against p-visions ember then you must
take the ember yourself that is what has to happen here for you and that's
because that Ember really felt like he got away with it.
Well did, we are going to have a very different game number two, it seems already.
We still have the teams on the same sides, but the pick order has changed, so it's P-Vision with first pick
and they take the Nature's Prophet.
We did see Nature's Prophet previous game, but only first phase banned by P-Vision themselves.
And this hero has just proven to be a really effective flex to mid, carry and support.
And within the range tier of meta he's always going to be comfortable to throw in there
And if teams overreact to him, which tends to happen if you pick him early
You can just you know do a gotcha and make him less important
We've seen teams do like spirit breaker against him and get cooked
Yeah, we've seen nature's profit being a relatively good response to Shadowfiend in a sense where you you can't
I'll see as this guy in the lane never gonna happen
So the way that people have been playing against Shadowfiend is try to bring extra bit of a heat because of this global presence
that you have from Nature's Prophet and then TP to his lane, maybe Twin Gate rotate with
the other support and try to outnumber him.
And so far from what I've seen, it did look pretty successful.
Nature's Prophet and P-Vision side, we haven't really seen it from any other role than Position
1.
You did mention the flex, the end because they did flex it to the Position 4, you said mid-lane,
which can potentially happen.
But of course, P-Vision, they're definitely using this as a bait because 9-class, he will
definitely play it if it's a good game for it if they want to give their
carry slightly more priority yeah you know and I'm looking at this first phase
of bands and there are like tiny little things that I find to be very amusing
like they banned darks here in the first phase on p vision which you then get one
more band right you're kind of telegraphing that you want the SF but
you take natures profit instead and the indexer just like no we're more scared of
dawn breaker than we are of getting SFed ourselves and that doesn't even enter
their mind like I just think little things like this are really cool because
another team would have overreacted potentially and included us after them
their first phase of yeah strong composure here another hero that made it
through compared to previous game is that I'm dying that we've seen on
Maladies never mind never mind second phase took a little bit of time to get
there though I mean I still think her wink is very solid she's going to be a
support that you can blind pick and comfortably build around yeah I'm
urge for it still in the pool that's the big one for me because of the nine
class performances that we've seen from position 4 and this is also something that no one did bring
into the meta kind of during the TI qualifiers where he played it four or five times it looked
pretty much unstoppable and then everybody else started to copy it so potentially looking into
that one as well there's also Keeper of the Light available I think this opens up so many combos in
the game from the off lane where we're talking about the Beastmaster from the mid lane with the
pango with the ember spirits and it's also one of the heroes that 9 class really enjoys to play
but also I assume they don't want to be picking this on their side straight out of the face because
they still want to be using this NP potentially as a flex. A lot of times they use this as a flex,
but it kind of never happens on the Edition. I've got three heroes to throw into the mix.
I just got two because Bane got removed, but Lina and Keeper of the Light are both still in
compared to previous game. And the Keeper is the big one that you have to have something prepared for
and the hood aren't taken up. I understand that this hero just gives you downage and she wins
Zoo Lanes and it doesn't reveal too much but if you're giving away a coddled
p-vision you have to be ready to play against Ember Spirit again which is
kind of where my concern is for a M-DUX because if their Ember Spirit response
is starter they have to move away from that. It just didn't work out. I would
imagine that they will have a plan against it. If we see it coming they
will too so keep of the life already picked up or see what combination they'll
take with it. If you don't pick Ember here, maybe you will get your Ember spirit stolen.
They have the other options as well. They have pango, they have earth spirit. I think
like if they pick earth spirit, it's kind of locked into a mid lane because Keeper of the
Light, they don't really play it from position five like we've seen certain teams do, but I like
this bearing. This has been one of my favorite off lanes because you just spam out whoever comes to
that lane and it's also very good again if this is going to be position 5 hoodwink for
this reason you are going to be kind of removing all the trees and then hoodwink can't really
find the angle and it gets very difficult for enemy position 5 to approach and trade
with keeper of the light trade with beast master.
You can just do clockwork, headwing play for it.
Yeah clock is always fine.
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day they say.
But I do like the Beastmaster being shown here because it's still very ambiguous in
where it goes and had they gone for the Earth Spirit mid right off the bat then you just
get the Sardar for Yandex which they've looked really good on, just not against Ember Spirit.
Yeah.
Taking their time here, this is the time where they get to pick two heroes, they'll go for
the Enchantress, not a very popular hero.
We have seen some people pick it up.
Why here, right now?
There's a good hero against Beastmaster if he's played in her lane because she can enchant
the board and take away like half of his laning strength, but you can also just throw the
Beastmaster mid in that case if you're not willing to lane against the enchanters.
Yeah, most definitely we've seen Beast being kind of flexed between three other roles like
we've even seen in mid Beastmaster as you mentioned, we've seen carry Beastmasters on
top of that.
I feel like they need a body.
They need something that's going to be soaking up the damage from their lane like whatever
we're talking about some underworkers.
Most of the heroes that the DM has played so far
have been banned out.
We're talking about Darkseer, Enigma, Centaur.
He does have one more, and that's Konka.
That was the one that I was about to mention,
that is a catch, is a body in front.
This is the hero that can build into any item that you need,
but we're talking about, you know, Spirit Vessel,
what do you want to go for, any aura.
It does feel good.
And it's also potentially a hero
that they can leave in the mid lane if it's a good matchup for it.
Yeah, they can for sure. I mean, I don't imagine CJ will like throw away the opportunity to
have a counter pick at the very end. But here comes the Ember that we mentioned. I would
be a little bit disappointed if they ran back this order. I just don't feel like it gave
them enough. I want to see the Vipers and the Huskaters come out now and force CJ because
Dan's Kunkka, it's going to give you that body that you mentioned Lacoste. It's going
give you that anchor, that teamfighting, so don't overreact and run back the
slider. I keep mentioning it but I just don't think it did enough against the
Ember online. Like when Ember is shown you have to punish it. We'll see what the
bands are coming out from P-Vision as I'm sure they're gonna target some good
counters to that Ember spirit as well. On their side we still need a hero for
most likely to call us unless there is gonna be some roll swaps with the
Nature's Prophet which we're not really expecting but we should always keep in
in the back, so it reminds.
Yeah, I'd be okay with maybe something
to stabilize the lane, like a lich potentially,
Wyvern could come out, big fan of Wyvern as a hero.
I feel like this hero is insanely good
at what it does in the lane, the scaling,
like we've seen so many good combos,
like even combos that don't really feel like combos
where people have been using Darkseer backing,
for example, to pull them back in.
And they're gonna be removing the hero
that we mentioned relatively early on,
like this Invoker, CJ Invoker, one of the best ones out there, had some really good
performances so far at EWC. And in terms of catch, Konka gave them that catch. Like the
X mark and the Sun Strike would be a very cheap and potent combo.
Yeah, I like the idea of Lich just because when you play against Enchantress, you know,
she's gonna make some early moves towards your tier 1s and Lich is the hero that can
just press his armor on the tower and maybe mitigate some of that stress. The Wyvern can
work in terms of clearing the lane with the splinter blast, but not as effective in terms
of the defensive game.
If not Wyvern or Lich, if they both get banned out, what other supports can play a more stabilizing
early game?
I mean, Clockwork's still in the pool.
I could be okay with Clockwork, and there's one guy that I feel like has been underutilized.
They picked it once, and that's Ogre.
I feel like this is a type of a hero that loves to lane with nature's profit.
gives them the body something to soak up the damage because like at level one like even level two it depends
bloodlust is an insane spell it gives you 35 attack speed and gives you a good amount of
move speed as well 6% so let's see what they're gonna decide for i think lech gives them slightly
more control it gives them slightly more teamfight as well
I know that's a easy M specialty, but I remember CJ was playing against 1WU and he's still
on R Shaker and it looked quite good.
I mean, it could give you a lane versus the Ember and it could give you that added stun.
I'm down for that.
I feel like also this hero has been unutilized.
Clap for Ogre.
Clap for Ogre.
Yeah, I think this hero has a place in meta.
many other position fives are willing to pick it because it's a bit of a hit or miss. It's also
a hero that can build into like different items you build into four staffs all across the anything
that your team needs and it's gonna feel relatively good. I mean I'm looking at P vision's draft though
and the same way that Yandexes felt very one-note and good at the one note that it does P vision is
very like single target heavy even with the ogre as your five it's not giving you team fight it's
It's giving you sin-fired sun, it's going to give your carry nature's profit a top speed.
But your Beastmaster also very similar to the final roar, so less of a well rounded draft.
How do you feel about Monkey King against Ember?
There was a one game that at least I've seen so far at TWC where people try to counter
this Ember Spirit with Monkey King.
It looked okay in the lane, but I feel like this hero is, it's not an S tier hero, it's
not an A tier hero by any means.
I would give them maybe like B at the moment.
It feels like with all these nerfs, a lot of the times this hero, it gives you the team
fight.
Of course, there's a good synergy between their heroes that they have, like the triple core
with the physical damage and whatnot, but I feel like it's a little lackluster what
it brings to the table in the mid-game, especially if you die once or twice.
Yeah, that's the issue with Monkey King is that one or two deaths kind of just slow you
down.
But I do think the lane is still very good for Summer Spirit, and I think CJ can make
make it work. But I do like the scouting and vision aspect that Monkey King provides, because
you're playing in scary nature's prophet and keeper of the light. These are heroes that
you need to scout, heroes that you need to see in the backline, and Monkey King is a
hero that can find them and set up for them. So it definitely makes sense within this context,
but I need CJ to pull off that laning stage.
Sounds like they are the ones that want to set the tempo in this game, which we saw them
not being successful in game one.
Again, it's a lot on the shoulders of CJ because he needs to be the one making all these moves
because support to it, they're okay when they are going to be playing like Enchantress.
I feel this hero has also been underpicked in a way because what the hero brings,
I feel like it has a very strong place in meta.
Even from position four, a Falcons played a couple of times.
It looked unstoppable in the games that they played it, but I just feel like this monkey king,
It's a it's like hit or miss in the cases that I've seen him. It's been more missed a
Bit worrying
Bit worrying for this game. I think not a few pulls it off she's because I really do think if CJ has a great laning stage and
Manages to snowball his enchantress is gonna come right they're gonna be able to take the tower
They're gonna be able to set the tempo and scout out these offline heroes
It really is just laning dependent and if CJ pulls it off. I really favoring indexes draft here sounds like that
that the CJ has to thread the needle real carefully there, no pressure, though I will
say CJ has been very strong in the mid and definitely a standout player so if anybody
can apply that pressure to propel himself forward it is him.
Can he do so?
Can he force out a third game to this semi-finals or will P-Vision lock in their place in the
grand finals or finding out with Kat and SPG?
At the start of the series, Avery, you said that Ember Spirit is a hero to look out for
and clash between these two teams as a hero that has been doing very well at these tournaments.
It's been hard for teams to be able to shut it down and for Ture Jr. Well, you're not
going to drop the Huskar. They tried out the Slardar. Now they're going to try the Monkey
King. What do you think about this, Avery? Is this going to be the answer to Ember?
I think Monkey is the most volatile answer you can pick against Ember right now. Okay.
of hitter miss. It either flops real bad or it succeeds to such a large margin in just 1v5 the
game. This is a great monkey king game outside of that lane 2 though. He has a good match against
Spirion. He has pretty good matchups against the other, just like low damage bodies in this game.
You know, it's like over-coddling, you can get on top of. Beast can sometimes be annoying with
boars, but I think in a game like this where there's no removal for Jingu, you should be really
confident just going and playing aggressive with your two supports. You have two really aggressive
supports to help you snowball this game. Gank mid put a lot of pressure through this mid lane to
snowball the map. That is a very scary thing for this p-vision lineup to deal with because Ogre is
not the best at early fighting anymore. They're kind of picking in for the scale with the bloodlust,
a little bit of a body later on, but he's not going to stop this the index support through
running the map. So a lot of explosive potential coming through these three heroes out of that
mid lane. That is what you want to see from this the index lineup and if they can execute that
But I agree that there's not a lot that stops it just running the map over.
Like you don't have heroes that can trade well with the Monkey King without any sort of jingle purge.
So it looks pretty solid in that sense. It's going to come down to a lot of execution here.
How much can cheer junior get out of this mid lane in the early stages
and how much of those support rotations come through.
Giving the early advantage to Tannock using the trance very well managed to deny one of the bounty runes.
the bounty rune, so it's a 2-1 split.
I think Barry and they actually hear that one.
We're going to start off with a early bit of action here
as Wadsen, going to be getting from behind by nine class.
They are trying to body block him as much as they can.
It's not going to work out, though.
And now the turnaround raises are a bit of a threat.
Pre-enchanters game, like that is for sure.
Now he can do a lot of damage here in the first 10 minutes.
He is still basically the most powerful early game
supporting the game goes in your favor and you get to some fast level 3 and 5
you're just an absolute beast on the map huge threat wherever Malady goes so
potentially free monkey game potentially a free enchanterous game I
mean this sounds like the index are very well set up for at least the first 20
minutes they should be and they should be confident in that that's that's a
great hero you can roam to the cook us maybe like a little odd piece out I don't
know he has that much earlier correction to synergize with this lineup but it is a
the hero that game is super comfortable with.
You need to get a fast bone up, maybe you can get that cheeky kill.
It's a solid Quimka game.
It's a hero that sets up, like if other heroes are having a good game, he sets them up very well.
For sure. He can give you a lot of sustain, a lot of extra team-type power, and he's a very tanky body himself,
which my biggest concern with the Pugazian lineup is getting to that point where the damage comes alive.
If they can scale their cores up, get some big damage items, and blow unless everybody, it's going to be insane.
You gotta get over that threshold a little bit, otherwise this support duel is not giving you that extra.
You have some nice sustained from the caudal, a little bit of DPS, over is pretty low damage, it's all about the course here in my opinion.
How do you deal with this off-lane duel of caudal beastmaster? We've seen this before earlier in the tournament.
It just ruins many a safe lane here. Maybe DMs in trouble actually blocked him on the sprout, needs no clutch.
It's too late for that first blood, goes to Satanic, they just win the lane straight up.
You know, you get the first blood off of early teleport.
I put trients on them.
Level 1 blow-blast, just straight-f-beat it.
There's no way around it.
Rough stuff to that lane.
Trints are just so strong now.
Yeah.
Unless you have, like, some way to steal them or insta-give them,
which doesn't really exist on too many heroes.
N'Kata Beast should be strong up here,
in terms of pushing the wave out.
If you don't feed that early, kills the enchantress.
You can look for it with the level 3,
but otherwise, you're probably looking for the roll.
Best thing you can do against it is block camps.
Don't let the stacking go out on that triangle. They already blocked the big camp with a sentry.
There's only this ancient camp. If you keep the lane pressure high, you should punish this caudal every time he leaves the lane.
So I like the deep lane ward. That's why this exists up here.
You want to see where nine-class goes. If you leave the lane to go stack, and one of those camps has already blocked,
instantly you're going on the Beastmaster. You have the all-in-potential with the raises.
So very heads-up early warding game should set you up to punish this lane. All those little things come into play.
So far he hasn't really thought about leaving lane at all just charging this
Beastmaster up for a Wild Axe's spam over and over and over again in the SF.
It's beginning to build up Malady. He has the heal so he can take away the
boars. He can help keep the SF topped up against this constant spam. I'd like to
see him go for the Beastkill here. They have level 2 and a shank coming back up.
You have Rises. You have Lotus Double Fairy Fire on Waltz. He's not as low as he looks.
I don't think you want to set up here and let notice continue to get chip damage on
You want to make these big trades that are in your favor and then make some moves elsewhere if you can
This time we got about inside of the game
Well, that's the most awesome. That's the classic. No, of course look so and your junior is doing very well for himself
He's currently sitting at a CS of 23 and 12 very nice lots of denies. I mean though we saw
in game one
heavy landing phase lead for
for P-Mission. Largely off the underlord and amounted to Knights he got there, but
Tier Junior is, uh, puttin' in work. He's puttin' in the work. And that's what you
wanna see out of this last pick. He has the early boots. He has a deny vantage, which
turns into a level advantage here. He'll easily outpace no one to that level six territory,
so you're gonna have a nice window to punish this Ember before he has the remnant online.
And I, ah, you really have to keep a check on these supports in this game. Either support
going to mid is a kill on this Ember if you get the jingle, which is pretty reliable against
hero. Especially with the early orb of Frost that he's been using to keep the
Ember Spirit in range to get those stacks. Double bracer build up for DM.
Getting a little tankier down here. You need to get these sidelaners as
independent as fast as possible with the Oriana, so that is the ML here. As soon as
the Watson and DM can stand on their own and you get everyone going play for the
monkey happier than me. Alternatives you bring monkey to one of these sidelines but I just
didn't give him for that kind of freedom when you counterfeit this matchup. It's not as
efficient. It doesn't feel as good. It's a viable option for sure. But I gave it to you
every monkey game's matchup. It's like I want to kill this guy. I want to smack his face.
I want to force enemy supports to try and bail out this Ember spirit and join a bad
engagement. Right. That is like a deal. You can line it up.
Hey, cheer, Junior. I'm watching.
But it comes to this, yes, he's prioritizing demise.
He really wants to keep no one down in experience, first and foremost.
He's a full level ahead.
He's working out right now.
Doesn't need the water runes either, so...
Don't really care about rotating for those.
It's all about the kill attempt.
Catapults, all online.
This is, uh, an option to look for.
Yeah, where's the, like, enchantress move to take advantage of this, uh,
his catapult? Where's the...
the hoodwink to try and go for the kill?
prioritizing side-laner morale right now.
That's fair enough that this Beastmaster is so annoying for SF to deal with.
They're actually gonna rotate Soxa, and he's gonna wrap around Soxa.
He's gonna be spotted here by 9th class, but still hit the bushwag.
Land's an unnoticed, one-raised land, but DeKal is coming in from back,
and now they've got the fourth hero coming in, it's a Tannig with a teleport.
Watson's gonna die. It's as much damage out there as possible before he goes down,
but his death was inevitable as soon as the Ogre came in.
I'm not sure I like going to this lane as the index.
I mean, this is not the point you want to attack.
The Furion is going to counterplay that every time.
Heads up.
Rotation put to college, though.
He's just already there.
Yeah, he read it really early.
That was a big difference maker.
That's a big blow.
Many supports up here, and you're going to lose.
Still catching Soxa.
The Lotus is not enough to keep him alive.
And Malady, Norwax, and can go to punish either.
Now, we do have a seven-minute wisdom shine
with the experience advantage the Monkey King has.
He's rotating over.
We've talked about this before, where you could just kind of set up early on on this wisdom.
This is not, I think he's like all three years.
Yeah, I think so too.
In fact, it's more of a question of how many heroes or p-visions are going to lose thinking they can take this nice war to place down to.
This is really cool.
He usually could get baited in here.
They don't know the monkeys already behind this play.
Well, no one is definitely saying monkeys missing guys.
For sure, you gotta assume.
Monkey haven't been here for a while, but do they know he's already behind them right now?
And he said it got mouthy's gonna fade it a little bit now to jump in cheer junior trying to get up the wukong's command
Get slowed up by the fire blasts. See if they can get this one kill at least and they do the wisdom shrine also goes the way of yandex
So double wisdoms plus a kill think cheer junior was hoping that was gonna be a bigger splash than it was
You want a little more out of that that's okay though
You got what you came for
You got some jingu to play with another battle less than five you can maybe look for some cheeky kill top
Socks are cleaning up the experience mid.
He's gonna linger up here.
Gets the floor on the notice.
Actually, Stops is bound to strike for a second there.
Finally gets it off, gets the heal required.
If you meet that heal, Wukong's commander is gonna be thrown out.
C-Tanek trying to go for the kill on Watson.
Watson and the Monkey King.
He fell into the hole.
He does manage to block the Magic Wand.
And he jumps over to one of his statues.
He gets away from the Edinburgh Spirit as no one.
He blindly went to one side, hoping that he would be able to haul in the Monkey King.
It doesn't work for him. The outcome, it's good for Yandex.
And it sucks, almost tight there to both the giants and the bore, but I think he is gonna get away.
He's hitting from this wrath of nature coming through.
You have six on the fury on the SF still, five. You have a little carry advantage in Satanic.
Makes it work, does pay with his price.
Yandex very happy to see the Syria go down.
I feel like every time you kill Satanic, it buys you like five minutes in the game.
How are the Monkey King?
Even getting disabled here, he didn't get the perfect strike off, but it's just so much
big chunk damage coming out from these two, and then...
Wukong's gonna be a problem.
I feel like there was a split of damage, right?
No one wants to kill the Monkey while Cetanic is hitting the SF.
It feels like they could have gotten, uh, you know, a little bit better situation out of that.
It's just awkward with this change in the guard.
Like, it makes him a lot...
It's a lot harder to bring down the Wukong in general, so if you over-commit he gets it off, the fight becomes really weird really quickly, right?
I think Keeves are also doing pretty well in these fights, so again, I don't think these early skirmishes necessarily favor them until you have a lot more support levels here.
We also haven't seen the Kunko really join anything yet, DM just quietly farming bottom, he's going for potentially first item blows.
Nice read of the situation, Satanic backs out from defending his safe lane tower, leads some treats behind to keep the tower up a bit longer while the farm's some neutrals farther away.
There's a wasted movement, it's going to be wasted.
And this is the risk of moving the monkey to the side lane instead of having the game blow through mid.
Because every time this happens, the ember gets time to catch up in this game.
But it's just through jungle and his mid lane is getting absorbed by support, where he gets to farm that out.
Full result in a nice little tower down here with the Enchanters roll, and now this means your next move is to make like four sure in this game.
Both teams are going to think about it a lot, right? That Enchanters backstab is a very natural
sequitur to this bottom lane calling.
And DM has all the levels that he is kind of scaring these fights now. It's maxed out Tidebringer, and it goes ship ready to go.
If they get the cook on the middle of the fight, then they're favored for sure.
That's a not an easy thing to do sometimes though in these programs.
It's just such a clunky hero early on, especially when you only have one point the X.
Keeping into these fights with one point the X against some of these mobile heroes like
Fury on Ember, we're going to kind of choose when they commit.
You're just sitting there thinking like, man if I keep it I don't get anything here.
If you want to teleport to their own safe lane here, you'll take control of that ESF.
No business playing that side of the map where it's likely to be interfered with by the Ember spirit
No one has already shown that he that's his game plan
That was career
No jingle though
Catch to call us
Gotta take these heroes out of your own jungle area as best you can
To trade Malady on the other side though
And you call this is probably fine with that exchange like you're taking enchantress off the map early for an ogre
You're way more useful than me right now.
What do you make of this very early Lotusaur or Conca?
That's why I was debating.
It's a good Lotusaur game. There's no doubt about that.
But is it a first item kind of?
It's definitely not going to accelerate your farm or your presence on the map.
It will be really nice for the Monkey King though.
You're gonna put all of your eggs in the Monkey King basket. You better make sure he has the backup to
Just stick in the fights, right? And that's that's I kind of like it
You feel like it's gonna help cheer junior a lot
It will pay off here. No deny there notice names to get the last hit off of the board
And they've lost the mid-touch
That's just not what I would expect between these two drafts. Yeah with an enchantress lineup. Yeah
Power of the Beastmaster, seeing this hero be played kind of old school Beast style,
like just going for this Hellen build up into early Tower Pressure with some nice rotations.
Even when you nerf this hero, he has another style.
There's always a way out for Beastmaster in teams nowadays.
to call us, he's gonna be chased down on his own side of the map this time, just uh, cannot
get that level 6 easy and it's wishing jr. jr. to a faster and faster death zone.
This area of the map should be very difficult for p-vision to access, instant chancellors
monkey that can very quickly connect in these areas, if you never de-ward some of the p-vision
ops in here, if it becomes kind of a death zone, very scary place to be.
But you defended your mid-tier one, it's full HP. So that is a big tower to play around in this game for the Ember.
You can always bring reinforcements into a dive situation. Kind of limits where this monkey can go.
Oh, I was gonna say, Yandex, I feel like they've been waiting. They've been trying to find a big core kill this entire time.
All they've got is supports, but killing C-Tanig, that's gonna do a lot for them.
But they have to be able to fight their way out, and they got the roar off before the Wukong's command.
Really fast rotation from the P-Vision cores, if noticed, and no one.
In skip TP, with the AIM damage on no one, you have enough firepower to turn that around before any sort of Wukong shenanigans come out.
Is that worth it? Not really.
You're giving so much space to this Ember, he has a full vessel right now. Yeah, he got Satanic again.
That's always gonna feel nice. But you're losing your big accelerator in this monkey. His desolator's getting delayed. The Ember's accelerating.
This Ember is about to be higher net worth than your Monkey King in the counter pick situation.
This is not what you wanted in terms of that overall game plan.
You guys are just playing a little faster in this series.
We're not seeing that same sort of momentum build up pre-index that we saw earlier on where they were just kind of turning one move into another game momentum.
Watson has absolute free form. There's been pressure kind of going into all of them at different points.
Maybe DM has had the most freedom, but he's also the hero that kind of needs the most levels to get activated here and
Is probably the most difficult to get involved
Yeah, he does have a higher level suffix now
So it is a bit easier for him smoke on smoke, but it is P vision once again outnumbering the index
And they are just going to head for the hills here leave DM behind keep the two supports alive
When you have Vessel online, you'll spot the courier at the helm of the overlord that's
going to be taken away.
Nice pickup there by Sox.
That's definitely worth showing on the map.
And you got Wisdom Shines.
Yeah, very good.
Honestly, not a bad exchange for Yandex overall.
Pretty good, pretty good.
As Kunkka died in the corner of the map, so you're not really translating into anything
big.
Even better if like Malady, not the right creeps for it, but if he can maybe like cut
some waves in this top lane with the creep, might be super valuable, you know.
And finish up the Deso and the Monkey.
So both these midlaners have their big damage item now, it's about who gets to use it better.
But this is where the Caudal can keep the Ember out on the map and power up that vessel with
the Solar Vine.
It becomes pretty nasty in terms of the TPS output.
I guess the early Lotus on the Cucca definitely will help with that too.
Yeah, both lineups feature some interesting damage apps, right?
Solar Binds and axes amplifying versus the minus armor duo of SF and this deso monkey
kink.
I thought you were talking about rabble rouser.
I wasn't thinking about rabble rouser.
We're thinking about the rabble rouser.
DM, defensive torrent keeps him up and he's just about to complete that loader.
So now we can deal with that Solar Bind better.
Maybe bounce back a roar on the Beastmaster.
That is the one problem, right?
They don't have a hard, hard save if Beastmaster gets a good Rora.
Monkey jumping away into the trees. Did they spot him? Oh, I don't think they saw him. They knocked him down.
Chair Jr. has to walk out to come in now, trying to defend himself.
He jumps into one of the statues, but he doesn't really have a way out here.
Slight chains, just taking him down. He jumps to another statue, but the area he's surrounded,
they spot him on the Fire Blast and a Blood Grenade, and 5-8-9 blasts from the blasts, right on through.
He almost got out of there. Yeah, let's go this ball first. I'll show you how strong his monkey is
Just completely isolated in a bad part of the map for the rest of the team to get to
I guess that's been the ammo of the series
We just haven't really seen the index kind of rally around the core. They went to at the right time and make something happen sure
See I'm gonna push off this mid. He's not close enough to get caught
and he didn't starting to group up they have that helm back completed on the
Beastmaster off of the Courier depth you have three points in the bloodlust you
have four points in the Chalker magic the enabling is here so whichever courier
running behind with these supports is gonna be a beast all right yes the black
dragon we'll get some enabling here that is a big black dragon yeah if you cleared
out this area do you just try and force this is a very dangerous roast yeah I
is not guaranteed at all against the monkey king he doesn't have wu kong span so they know that much
the chancreuse also with four point skill can just run in in front line right it's not an easy
target to bring out quickly you have to commit a vessel charge plus solar line likely some other
spells do you think people didn't ever intended to do roach on they were just trying to pull yandex
into a potential fight probably yes it's very scary to commit for that roach without knowing
where yandex are so yandex are playing smoke very defensively they're not giving that fight
Just yet, but you know, P-Vision is gonna try and force it anyway. Slight change opening on Mallity.
Not the guy you wanna see.
Certainly not.
I don't commit.
Gonna take this off-lane tier one tower, though, with the siege wagon and the Beastmaster creeps taking for it.
The index are gonna play more of the map.
No one trying to deal with mid-wave. It's a little dangerous if you somehow get this chain stun here.
There's not a lot of chain stuns on him.
would have to be some crisp execution to punish the Ember in this game.
I feel like that has been the story of Ember this tournament.
The hero keeps getting picked, keeps getting slightly counterpicked,
he doesn't get demolished and lane hard enough, and then you have to play against Ember Dota,
and, yeah, it becomes an issue.
Grab a nice little shield during here as well.
This game is becoming a little bit of a stalemate.
What do you make of DMs going to opt for Consecrated Wrap's second item after the Loans?
That signals it's go time to me.
Like you were just saying 20 to 30 minutes, we have to get a lot done in T-Fights.
And I think that is what this line wants to do, I think that is the correct approach.
You have to get Roshan's in that period, you have to force fights.
You don't want to let this turn into some split push game where Fury and Ember are wrapping your waves
Waves and somebody eventually gets picked off by roar
Somebody needs to frontline
Consecrated wraps make you a lot tankier to make that happen
All he has to do is make space right?
He's got two pretty hefty damage dealers in the monkey in SF for sure
You don't need more damage here. You just need to survive in the fight
One could argue pipe is a little better for your other two cores than the wraps here, which is more just for you
Junior
Ooh, the slight doesn't hit it, but it's gonna unrend it, and that's gonna attack him with damage.
Once again, Wukong's command used defensively.
A little bit of trickery, getting closer to his team. His team will back him up this time.
That's Wukong down, though.
Little resource taken away.
But, cheer, Junior, I mean...
I think he is okay with this game. No fights happening until he gets BKB.
When she almost has the hammer, go for a pick-off on DeKalus in the mid lane.
Fast kill take it get out especially with that mid-tier one tower still standing
Nice little play for the index
He's she gets some deso charges. Yeah, thankfully something push that monkey towards the PKP
I'm trying to chase down this helmet and Tom creep a black dragon. I don't get it
It's in the river now, so it is running fast very fast up there
So split push, this lineup has all three cores can contribute to the lane pressure.
They're gonna teleport behind DM, they're tired of this X-Marx's spot, nonsense, it's
satanic.
Cast him away with Hurricane Pike, a Lotus, and try and go for TP, but they just roar
right through it.
And maybe that's the pick off that P-Vision feels good enough to do Roche.
This is the style of game P-Vision 1, lane's going in, someone's trying to kill a Black
Dragon top.
Someone's dealing with the wave, they got pushed to tier 2 bottom, do you find a roar
pick off that's going to translate into an objective the index cannot group up
and find the team fights they want right now the map gameplay is just too
crisp that is where fury on shines you loves this kind of you know you have to
react to me you have to split up and then I just get to pick final line and I
make those moments count for a lot more because I can always clean the waves up
with wrath of nature
Manta is done for Watson, and the BKB is gonna be done very soon for Cheer Junior, so we are gonna reach this big timing for Yanix, but once again, it's a timing that is right as Pete and Jin are kicking into gear with the first Roshan they claim.
I don't think they should be afraid to fight into us if they can get a good fight going.
You just can't be afraid to fight with the lucky team pick here.
Satanic, straight into top, gonna try and put some pressure on this tier 2.
And this is the type of situation where you can take this engagement, and you should want
to take this engagement in view as long as you can get everybody here.
This is where the Kunkka can get an actual teamfight, and he invested in Lotus plus
the wrap, so if I'm DM'ed, hell yeah, this guy's hit my tower, let's take this fight.
He has no BKB. They pop the glyph, but, see, Hanna doesn't care.
He's almost brought down this tier two already. They're gonna play some X marks' spot, time-bringer hit.
The Endix is extremely cautious.
They came up here, but they didn't take the play.
The smoke is gonna run into him. They hit it down the Shrike onto two to start things off.
No immediate follow-up to Bushwank, only catching the ogre.
Maybe they can pick off to call us, and they will get that much for it.
Two defensive for my taste. I think they were way stronger there than it showed.
If anything, I think I was a little bit of a risky push for P-Vision.
If that fight goes wrong, or they get some good angles with the Monkey Kunkka...
Yeah, they've got two different cores that you...in extra life is not that good against, right?
You die, and you come back here surrounded by Wukong's man, or maybe you're getting point-blank Requiem.
It's because you don't have a BKB yet on Ztanic.
That's where I think that opening existed. He will have BKB for the next fight. You might even have the Beastmaster one, the Ember's coming as well. It'll be a triple BKB lap. The control goes out the window. You have nothing for the BKB's this game.
If you are, and if you're also going in Chantris Ags, or the little friend's lockdown, it's a very obnoxious spell for the Ember.
Yes.
Will you have a window to use it before Ember has a BKB? That'll be the question.
I mean, even if it means you just force him to use BKD, isn't that still good?
It is still good.
And it could potentially do some serious damage with the B-screeps all around the target.
There's treants in this game, too.
Usoxa is gonna be slight change, stop at the Tee-Tee, another pick-off for P-Vision.
Yeah, next to it, like, do you think they see this as, well, like, we just have better
late game, so we're not gonna force any moves and potentially take bad fights when it's
up to P-Vision to, you know, end the game.
I would say it feels more that they think that way than not, whether that's true.
Still to be determined.
Now, is he gonna be able to shrink away out of this?
The heals?
He's surrounded by Triants.
He's not really getting away, but he's not dying either.
And now, Satanic.
Well, they're gonna jump out of Satanic.
Satanic doesn't have everybody here.
Now, he's dead twice.
He's dead.
I mean, Wulgog's command, plus Rek'Wen.
They're gonna boat on top, and they jump triple or ultimate to kill Satanic.
Can they get any health?
Now to pull back on the Night Class as well, the supports they didn't even leave their
SF to die like this, but now they just added even more of the Antex at double for Watson.
And that's the teamfight strength I'm talking about.
Yeah, they don't have the beast there.
That's a huge component.
The Ember was full pushing waves.
But if you get on top of the Sphere, and before he has BKB, he's just going to get melted twice.
And that's the monkey matchup.
Like, you drop the Wukong on him, he gets stuck in the middle.
He's absolutely done.
There's no way to win that matchup as Furion.
It's almost like the Yandex lulled Satanic into this whole sense of security where they're not going to make any plays.
I could be as aggressive as I want.
You gotta respect when all five of these heroes get to hit the same target.
It's an insane amount of firepower. You have that boat back up there and it's going to be very tanky.
Enchantress is going to cause you some issues this game.
You don't have an easy way to bring Malady down on the front line.
He's going to continue to scale pretty nice.
It's an annoying game when you play all these right-clickers against the touchable, the max-heal.
He already has shard, he already has axe done.
This axe is really annoying.
The very passive play from Yandex works out as they turn on the offense at just the right time.
Get a good punish.
Now let's see if they're able to snowball this a bit.
Looking for another opportunity.
Off his invisibility. They go for Tecalus, but the Ambersphere is right behind him.
It doesn't matter too much damage too quickly.
Abusing this area of the map, but again, it's very hard for Petition to get into.
It's got a good word, Petition, that ping the SF.
But, they don't really have a smoke or anything to make a play to that side of the map quickly.
At least he were on that river as well.
They're just swinging their way. Yeah.
They're getting some good ops out. Some nice areas to play around.
I do wonder when we're going to see the early Gem from either side at this point.
You've got to be getting close to that point if you're peeping, especially since you have
an ogre.
This is not the best hero at utilizing net worth, so you can just buy a Gem and contribute
that way.
What do you need, Hand of Midas?
It's so valuable.
Wow.
I don't think he's getting to the Hand of Midas here.
Well, the wrath of the helm of the Overlord creep, it's getting worse as these heroes
like SF and Monkey King are able to hunt it down and kill it rather quickly.
So you're going to lose some of that element if you're P-Vision.
What elements are you going to gain soon, though?
We got some item pickups.
Looks like Satanic wants to get a butterfly as his next item, which is fair enough.
You have the AC and soon to be a BKB to be completed for noticed and no one just got his own BKB
So they've hit a timing of their own not enough that I feel confident taking a five on five
But that's not really this lineups for taking the first place right they want to split you up
Satanic whoops and cheer junior accidentally dropped down from the trees there put it
Pops away. They're gonna catch Malady on the other side Watson pops out with a requiem though
Oh, almost burst down. Notice, noticing alive off some of these heels and now gets a turnaround roar.
Watson's in trouble. No one. He's gonna finish him off. Jumps right on top of him.
Catched Valide as well. They're coming through the game, but it's gonna be one by one for Yandex.
And I think they're already making the read of the situation. Maybe this is something else to start on.
Blast it down, Chara Jr. He was trying to get off a big Wukong's command.
But the speed with which P-Vision brought this fight to Yandex completely surprises them.
DM will manage to make the TP out, he's good, but he is the only survivor of that fight.
He started out so well with the little friends on the Beast Pass that did so much damage, but they can't connect everybody there.
They're too split on the map. The Kunka's in the upper jungle, there's two heroes going through the gate.
P-Vision get here faster, read the situation a little better than the Andex and able to take advantage of it, and you get nothing off of the Wunsching.
No VKB pop, he gets punched down from the tree with a blinding light straight into an overstudy.
And you're looking at an even game, or maybe even slightly Yandex favor, and all of a sudden, P vision.
You're looking at a lane of Barracks been here potentially. Now, the Kunkka is a problem.
As the heroes are coming back up, his catch is so much to ignore.
And the ranged Barracks does manage to stay alive.
Alright, that's something to salvage the situation.
Early Sheeva's on DM does make him pretty strong as you see some extra A and B clear.
be clear. You just can't get the teamfight going. I still think they're stronger than
a straight 5-on-5, but of course, can't you get that fight?
Exactly. P-Vision are very intelligent, too. They're not just going to give you that fight
straight up. It's always going to be some rat action happening, some summons making
your life annoying. But again, they're trying to hunt down the
Furion and they caught him! With the BKB on cooldown for a couple of seconds, they
do so much magic damage that now that the BKB is up, it doesn't matter.
That's a big fine. He's very high level in this game, so he's going to be dead for a
a long time every time you take him off the map.
That gives you a minute to work with here.
It's funny, it's that exact play that failed earlier
that left the opening for P-Vision to get the fight at top.
The Monkey King, Hood Wing trying to hunt down the Furion,
they kind of botched the attempted gank,
and then Furion's able to go top and take that big team fight.
Well, this time, they just run it back and it works.
I think this is the area of the map that all
of their good opportunities have come in.
Sure.
Yeah.
You really have to respect this lower jungle area
against the Enchanters against the Monkey King, how fast they can get in there, the vision advantage they're going to have.
That is just not an area I want to farm with anybody outside of maybe Ember pushing out bottom,
or using some summons to do it.
Kind of surprising Tannock was that deep in there with his hero.
Instant roar on Chirijun, you're under and Ops on the cliff.
Knock him down, all they have to do is keep him there with his BKB and pull down from the earlier usage.
Everybody's just dying in the slower jungle.
Yeah, it's not a safe place to be.
And no one is keeping tabs on Watson here.
They are both making a move to top lane.
It's going to be Yule Scepter set up into the Bushwack.
BKB does go off in time from no one.
And now that they forced that, they make a run away.
And they've got to run fast, too, because VP vision
is on their way.
They're going to catch Malady.
And yeah, Dexter thinking, well, can we actually save him here?
The sprint goes off.
Torrent in the Bushwack.
It's enough to save him so Malady has a chance here.
And if they push too far forward,
Look what Roth's in his city, ready to go with the Wreck Wim, and pop out with his freshly minted Daedalus.
He hits hard.
You gotta shiv on top of that, and ask your man who gives you the attack speed.
You have that level 20 talent.
Just extra souls.
P-Vision do not stumble into that, and now Satanic is trying to set up a play for Roshan.
Push in this bottom lane, and go for that top lane, Rosh.
They're missing the Emperor Bikibi. This is an opening.
You can root him with little friends.
I end the bush whack on him, no one can potentially die with that item on cooldown, so again, they're gonna start the rose, but not commit for it. That's not a fight you wanna take with some cooldowns missing.
Very easy for Yandex to keep tabs of that area, just torn inside the pit or throw an enchanted creep in there.
Certainly no way to be able to sneak this.
the steepness. Sheba's at 14m and he's gonna go an agonist scepter next so
really just full tank and tank squad casters from the other here.
It'll be nice over the long run of the fight, not that good in the initial BKB
exchange. Right, so you just gotta think about when you're throwing these spells
out and how you're getting some value out of them. Protect your other two cores,
create some space.
The Roche came installed up for now, as the Ember BKB back online, they'll scout it back
out.
But he's just ready to fight.
If the fight never comes, the Furion's cleaning up the map.
So you're not in a rush here.
You're not forced to make some sort of bad smoke.
The onus is on the Andex a little bit more.
I mean, I would say the onus is on the Andex, but also, like, Watson also saying it kind
of seems comfortable if this stalls out a bit.
If he gets a BKB, like, how do they even interact with him on that first BKB team fight?
He can get roared. That is the biggest spell to potentially connect on to him with, and it's mainly Fury on right quicks.
If he gets roared, Satanic TV's on top, just starts right quicking him down.
Bloodlust gives you a lot of extra amp in this lineup. There's an AC already online, you have an inner Beast aura as well.
A lot of extra attacks be going to a lot of units that can just kind of swarm you, overwhelm you.
That's where this SF can die.
And now we're back to a game of a single pick-off,
maybe leading to that Roshan.
Fry their side!
Right, you've got the Ember Spirit sweeping through the map,
the Monkey King is doing something similar.
Magnum Scepter, done for nine class,
which is a very big pick-up in these set areas like the Roshan pick.
At least your junior goes back to farming here. You don't want to just sit there forever.
Yeah.
You're going to steal me. Watching Satanic's net worth go up.
Yeah, again, that's largely going to be DM and Malady's post to hold.
Ooh, actually teleported right onto CJ there.
CJ, I'm certain he could take that fight.
There's your SFP carry.
Got his BKB, soon to be a basher on the Monkey King, while, uh, Satanic is working on a damage item here.
What's Daedalus next?
You could potentially also hold Bi-Back on the Furion.
You force the Roche fight with two lives.
You need to get caught by some people.
Emberspirit, he sees the Monkey King going through the gate, but he didn't actually complete the gate, CJ baiting it a little bit.
Now he's gonna back off.
Again, it's no damage done.
The Monkey or the Emberspirit make a wrong move here.
And their attempt to find a pick off get picked off instead
The exact way could it be the ones to try and force the roach here a little bit
Dm gonna brave the high ground seeing how tanky he is Lotus moving that solar by they don't see this work cliff
That's a dangerous war. It's a very nice especially since it spots cheer junior
Oh, he gets lighted and he's gonna start backing off
Yeah, you really have to be careful on these debobbs, it's going to time out now.
Yeah, that is very good timing for Yandex.
And it naturally expires.
Spots him, gets into the quelling plate.
That's what we're talking about here now, the Willowes.
Trying to four-stap DKB, but he didn't notice.
Giving him a four-stap with ease.
Perfectly fine.
Another slight change on a bunch of heroes.
Put the Enchantress in first.
Trying to gain some information.
How far is too far, Malady?
Oh, he's tanky. Yeah, he really is.
Cover him nicely. And this entire time, Fury on, it's just fighting his time.
If nothing really shows here, ooh, trying to sneak it?
Trying to sneak in here, but again, there's too much vision.
The Yandex has. He's stuck there though. You got a mana port now.
It's kind of awkward now, the bushwhack grabs him, Wadsden chants.
He's got one on the side, he can only hit the sharpshooter onto St. Hanigan, Roshan's out of here.
Yeah, Ember's spear jumping right in the middle. They do have to get the roar onto Watson. No need to follow up, though.
It's gonna be Watson fine here, thinking about the Requiem, but the entirety of P-Vision have backed away.
This is no longer a Hiroshan fight, as it's gone to the other side.
You can man up and do it here, if you're in the index.
P-Vision are missing a lot more than you are right now. No BKB Fury on no roar available.
Ember, out of remnants.
Get it solo as well. You can just wukong for this.
B2O Flink, notice. He's looking for his time. He can go Sam Pops and BKB!
No, it's Watson to grab the anxious, and now the Wukong command notice will not make it out alive, and once they're in the pit, there's no way out.
They're gonna lose Gem on top of a bad teamfight, and Roshan.
Even no one sticking around a bit still gets Uthaket hit on the Torian.
What a slide.
They've got the pushback of those sharp tuner to knock him down. A double for the slim reaper.
They were so patient on that Roshan.
Yeah, jumped first there was gonna end up losing the exchange.
It was a battle occasion, Satanic kind of took the biggie, went in that pit, but he doesn't kill Rosh fast enough before it starts to change sides.
He almost had to BKB to bushwack to try and commit there, and there's no way you make that call.
Then you're left in a very bad situation with no war, I don't think you can take this fight.
You almost get the Aegis snipe.
But even if you snipe Aegis, yeah, you're not winning this exchange. There's nothing for Satanic to keep you into here, man.
Power the lucky.
Man, the SF around this pit...
Their lineup is really scary when they can just set up on that objective and force you into them, that's kind of what they've been looking for all game.
I think the fact that they got that plus one from the Ember kill, like Ember and Furion, they don't join that fight and they just push out waves, right?
It's a big streak too. Someone got a lot of gold off of it as Soxa gets an extra 800 for the AX3.
He is very fine. It's now Aghanim's.
We've got Wind Waker build up for Soxa.
He's got a level 3 sharpshooter.
The house game is scary.
Her pv is right now.
Spotted on a ward.
Satanic gets him, but of course Soxa has Scurry.
You're just...
There's no way you're confident in your fury on scaling against Monkey Hand, SF, and a vacuum.
Yeah.
Yeah, he has a little bit of health from a roar.
You have a couple buffs.
This Ember is gonna become a late game menace.
But in terms of the physical manfighting power, Monkey has to frame supreme right now.
So if you can keep them alive and just play around the Wukong, there isn't really going to be an opening for the Sphere to take that fight.
You have to kite around these ultimates, you have to pick a really smart angle.
Satanic and Aegis ends.
He's halfway there to 25. These are massive upgrades for the SF.
Oh, yeah, like before you said, okay, you could still kind of all in the SF roar and satanic just hits them down
Well, they there goes that there's no way they can operate off of that game plan now
It's up to P vision
To outmaneuver Yandex dodge the straight five on five the calls is gonna be spotted by the monkey. See ya
Getting out of that one. Don't forget. These are still more deso charges. He's ramping up at 18 now
You get some Necromancer, you get some Jingu, you get some Deso.
You got a deal with the top lane, it's going to be Rainsbearix finally dying.
Creep pressure, and they'll send the monkey back.
Wow, this little signal vacating bottom. You already have a hex on the Kunkatu.
That's a lot of extra control in here.
Hex on the beast, so a hex for both offlaners definitely helps your single target initiation.
I just think you only have the spirit to get in there and deal with the damage.
There's so much pressure on Satanic to basically have perfect team fights in order for P-Vision to win.
Do you feel like 25s could solve some of these issues for P-Vision?
Say the 25 on Ember's Spirit, right? Races, spamming out Remnins helps.
Like, you have to find ways to pick up scale in your other two courses, game.
If you're P-Vision, more consistent disable, more ability to assassinate the backline.
It's just a difficult backline to assassin it. Yeah, that's why chance has a great match against ember
I think it's one of the supports that ember just never really threatens like you doing this remnant dash spam
You just sitting there with you. So what?
Come at me the hood link. Maybe you can assassinate this midway, but even then he already has yules. It's like a cat ban
And I think wicker is such a cool choice such an early item. Oh, yeah, it's great in this game
or a support to grab.
One of the best items against the Beast Roaring,
now that you can manage to get here and again.
You're just about protecting your SF,
protecting your Munch King.
If these two heroes are alive and hitting people,
you're winning the fight.
Okay, but what about the Ogre Scale?
What about the Ogre Scale?
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Is there some secret hidden Ogre Scale I'm not aware of?
This means we are in the Ogre Scale.
We need the Midas.
It's just, there's no way you could have gotten up this game.
But think about it for the 16-minute items, you can get those madstones so quickly.
I don't want to think about it.
Will Yandex hit high ground? It seems...
It's not to be with the Aegis anyway, they can still go for it, but...
Yandex have shown to be pretty patient in this game too.
We're concerned about their lack of aggression in some of these early games, but...
They just killed out and they put themselves in a winning spot here with 2,000 net for 3,000 men not sound like much, but against this kind of lineup it does mean a bit more.
One of the most important things to notice is that you feel comfortable with your game plan.
It doesn't have to be the theoretical best game plan that your lineup has, but as long as everyone's comfortable, you know what you're playing for.
If you believe in your scale, sometimes you just scale harder, you know, because you see it.
They're definitely seeing it here, and I do think there is a lot of truth in that too.
I think the scale is gonna come on quite nicely here because the monkey he is so bad.
Also the supports too, right? I mean, Malady can start turning. Oh, yeah. He has so much gold,
he almost has a hurricane pike to be completed. And it's a good enchantress game.
They don't have an easy way to take him out. This is not a hero that the cores want to commit so much of their teamfight time too.
And so you put him on the front line every time he's gonna be a nuisance, almost has 28 talent as well.
can get even tankier if he wants. Aggressive, you will. Yeah, Blink ULT immediately is meant by
a roar. Boundless strike down, but no one is committed to spkb to get this support kill.
It doesn't happen fast, but they do get it. That was just a mystery, I think. They thought
there were more split up than they were, sure. Thought Ember, Spirit, and Furion were out on
the map running and stuff, but in which case that's a fine way to start the fight, but
P-Vision, we're just all there.
Squirrel will bite the dust as...
Little breathing room. Does give P-Vision an opportunity here. They push out a bit more on the map, take back their triangle,
and may have an opportunity to keep these pick-offs coming. It's 45 seconds till the hook wings back up.
You've got this blink sight on the Beastmasters, so they've got this spooky hard initiation.
And the counter to that is supposed to be that wind wave.
I'll show you some long-term plans here.
Oh, certainly not going to need the cooldown reduction.
He's almost 25.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, what are you looking to bobble with here on a Furion?
It's not the best bobble target.
I guess you can infinitely bobble on the Aches or something?
Is that even happening?
Oh, I feel like bobble possibilities are relatively unexplored.
That's true.
Take a quick tormentor.
So, I hit P-Pission. Do a pretty good job.
One support pick-off.
Feels like they got a decent amount of gold off the map.
Swept through large areas, took the objective.
It's a 1k gold difference in this game.
Very even.
But there's a large level advantage.
pre-index and just the field again feels like their cores are getting a little
harder right now they got to that SF-25 they're gonna get to the monkey 25 to
big talents this game maybe the biggest yeah
build them, leverage that on or another Roshan
as Wukong ring is just oh you go in Rosh you parked down this Wukong
who goes into that? yeah yeah who is gonna run into that thing that do anything in
this game it looks impossible
Nullifier, or DM's Conka, all control for the two other damage dealers. They're just
waiting for Roche, that's what it feels like. Yeah, we're not the force of anything. We
are not stronger around that objective. The way we end this game is within ages on
one of the two big damage dealers, likely the Watson SF, and then we can go high
ground. So the onus is on you right now, Key Vision, to make something happen in this game,
disrupt the status quo. One of the ways they might be able to do that around the
But I talked about earlier is just spamming buybacks into that objective
Okay, yeah, you throw one theory on what life away on a wukong he buys he goes back and fight and wipes you
That is a way around some of these big ultimates a lot of times right and
Satanic should definitely have the goal for it
I mean that's one of the things you play for with the laking theory and because yours run out item slots did take the
Trian damage in HP by the way, so
The split push from the treants is gonna be a little stronger with the 25 talent which is nice again
And if you can ever split the index up, that's another way to take a teamfight.
I just think that is the less likely approach because we're at the point in the game where
even if you rat that top, or axe the index, we're not going to respond to it in the middle
of a roast fight.
Don't give up some buildings to get the bigger objective here.
But those are some big tomatoes.
Oh, look at them go.
MKB for the Monkey King with level 25.
So the butterfly from C-Tanak is a lot less effective than they're going to hit with about
the strike.
Paul whooped the Abyss of Play.
That's enough.
They don't need many stuns.
They missed the Bushwack too so that was really important. You had the full missile there with the chain stunning and there's the overwhelming physical damage
And the pick-off they need to very very confidently take that Roche. He's actually solo killed one. Yeah, that's even scarier
2,500 damage. I mean the contribution is
Whatever right you probably needed to get in there
But that shows you how much DPS here juniors doing in this game
Yeah, in the future it could be a true junior sets up on no one and if he Wukong's commands and they found the strikes of this
It's like didn't he make a hole for sure
He can a hundred to zero base anybody this game with a preemptive
It's gonna be harder to do but and that's a really big problem because it affects how much you're able to play the map
Right like every single time the effort is out. He knows he's taking his life into his own hands
And here's a free rush on off of that snipe. Yes damage in the river. It's gonna make it super fast
No ability to react to this there goes your potential to try and make something happen
around that objective.
And you see the map position for Pius, it's very defensive and it's very defensive for
some time.
And you have to notice to literally get backpacking as AC just to try and hide the aura to get
some sort of opening in this game.
Oh yeah, that's a cool play.
You gotta do all the little things to try and salvage something here, but you do have
five buybacks available right now.
So there's a lot of extra gold sitting on these heroes.
It's a pro-anticon, right?
Sure.
Not as strong in the teamfight, but if it's a high ground situation you can abuse the
extra lives, it could come in handy.
Yeah.
Or it means we're going to have a fresh round of items, which there's one of them, Scythe
Bice, 4-9 class.
They are going to have a lot of Scythe Bices, because notice is trying to double up on his
with a refresher, well, double up on the roar.
Roar, Scythe, Roar, that's a long, long time to be stunned.
Okay, an oversight in this game.
You multicast anything you think you can.
He also wants to say but he's gonna be the slowest build up here for sure. You call us as a
You don't overgrind that it's worth you have level three multicast
You don't think the minus pays it was worth it. Yeah, I think you should probably should have gone it when you recognize
This game is gonna go really really long. He probably regrets it now
You know, but well, I know I'm just saying what is it worth buying right now?
Because level three multicast can pay it back so quick
Honestly, it probably is
There's an argument if you can somehow get this hex and make it work instantly in a fight that
the might is just slowing you down.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think the way you win this game is some ultra late game shenanigans and
it has to get really weird.
Satan is trying to get MKB to answer the butterfly on Watson.
He has to be able to hit this SF because they are very much all in on the single target disables
just to lock down this SF and then Satanic to deliver the damage.
And of course the high ground is still pretty scary here.
You're going into unknown buyback territory.
You only have the one Wukong to throw out.
There's no refresher here for the monkey.
You can park Watson on that high ground,
but he's gonna just get hexed and it's a burst damage.
And then you're in a situation where do we take this fight with a hexed SF?
Are we leaping behind the Tier 3 into buybacks with a monkey king?
It just looks really weird.
At the same time, I think you'd want to force that fight.
Like, you're not getting too much stronger on your two cores here.
Yeah.
So this is a time to make something happen.
If you either make some crazy smoke play, try and find a pick-off into the high ground
like we saw the Ember die earlier, try and bait Fusion out of their base.
If you can manage that somehow.
You can just drop a banner and, like, make a slow Siege it.
That is another option for sure.
Watson hitting the tier 3 makes this a very fast Siege.
They've got the bonus attack range off alert. That definitely helps the high ground seats here.
That plus the Archie flag you can sit mega far back.
Throw the potato up there.
There's the potato, revenge aura.
There it is, yeah.
Got the best spells in Dota.
It's gone.
They're almost dead.
But not quite.
Continuing the assault now.
On to the Barracks.
This is where it's dangerous.
Lots of braving that high ground.
And they're going to aggressively force down to the site, and they tried to get him out, but the no-fire is placed onto him.
He's already dead already. He does managed to get away. Keep the adjacent attack for now.
It's not used to see Tannin. Still has his BKB and his backpack.
So nothing lost there, but that was an interesting damage test.
They really showed that P-Visit can kill him quickly.
That's why it's so scary. There's just so much chain hex potential, and then you have to make a call if you're jumping deep or not.
They bail him out. No harm done, but you don't get that rax.
And there will never be a save right that is actually can be used against like the bison all fire, right?
They get him. He's not BKB. You can't win wait for staff. You have to just commit to the fight
They do have a fresher short to never ocean. They did give it to cheer junior. So you technically have double wukong here
Again, this is kind of your timing to end the game right now
Have a minute on this ages the higher it doesn't get easier when this ages expires
Now the MKB is done for Watson, it gets to this high ground fast enough to force PVision
to fight into the Aegis.
Will PVision get a quick execution on him or will they just give up the lane of barracks
in exchange for Aegis expiring?
A whole lot of very important decisions to be made in this next 30 seconds or we're
just going another round.
Wait for Roche, and the thing is if you're not decisive, something is going to be pushing your top lane.
Yes.
And you might lose a racks off of the indecision here.
There's lots of it.
There's lots of it.
There's marches for it.
Another aggressive for Saffy to the side.
And push them in!
Oh boy!
That's going to be that Aegis!
He has to swap.
He can be in.
There's a 1 and a half second difference here.
We get text again.
They can again another Saffy initiation on him.
But if for Saffy gets out, they don't have another nullifier to stop those saves.
So better to wait for the nullifier to be back up.
But what do you do now?
You committed another banner.
Do you have catapults here?
I mean, maybe it's time to drop the Wukong's. Maybe it's time to force Satanic into you.
Give him a taste of your own medicine. You got to do something to break the formation here.
It's really difficult for the Monkey King to get close to this fight against the Ember Spirit. It's just too dangerous.
Oh, look at this. The creeps went top. They immediately smoke off of this play trying to catch some stragglers.
That play is really hard to make work. You have to be very preemptive with it.
You kind of have to pre-rewind when they're going to back up and like already be smoke wrapping as the first guy TP's top
Yeah, you do it too early you run into five heroes. That's not what you wanted. Yes
You do it too late
Well, that's maybe a smoke potentially wasted as in this case the index do manage to retreat fast enough
Very cool
Play up their own now behind the tier two night class gonna break will it was breaking the trees?
That's the danger of this monkey came first these heroes get committed a good ways to break out the trees
And it just allows them to retreat
All space for the ogre magi farming up. That's right. That's right. Getting closer and closer to that site
You imagine he gets a multicast four staff multicast site device. All right, you're getting ahead of yourself
That's like that's a real over pipe drink
OH GOD I'M ON THE BALT THIS BAST! AND THE BISTLE BLADE! He's dead!
Nice snipe from Jira Jr.
here. I got another huge find in this game. He does have highback available, but you're
going to get a lot of map control off this, which might be more valuable. Yeah, notice
is pushed out the bottom lane enough. Somebody's going to have to deal with it, but the death
timers are so long, it's easy to deal with the pressure of the lanes. Do you force the
high ground? You got it, right? It's either you do it during Roshan or you do it during
heroes being dead and forced buybacks. Man, what a bash. That's just from the hand of
Gabe himself. Yeah. Delivered.
Yep. Bots two on the conco. So he's in the way to join. Trying to get a repressive four
staff into the base here where the Willow is turning around. He's just dying. Turn back
and he's just dead. What? If they're wreckwaves up in Covrum, they do manage to force out
Satanic here. Satanic Bots BKB. And now it's a man fight between Watson and Satanic and
and they're not winning it easy with the numbers advantage
that P-Vision have.
They got to feel comfortable with this.
They've got still a satanic to be used on wands,
and he just used out, but he needs to use his PKB
on the way inside the vise.
He might just die.
Wind Waker's going to be pumped.
His satanic is almost caught, even if he pops a PKB,
he can't get it, and why is he still down?
P-Vision, pick off one after another, a third to die.
And just like that, P-Vision back in the driver's seat.
If you go higher up again,
at this point you have to just jump up.
You can't slow siege this. There's too many hexes, too much control.
This monkey king got obliterated at long range from Satanic just laying in with the right clicks.
He has so much attack range himself.
Texas, these four stacks, they're deadly on the high ground siege.
Early buy, Valady.
He's gonna be the first to pop the buybacks here,
But there is certainly more to come as all of these lanes, all three of them are being pushed in.
You're gonna need some course up to defend otherwise.
He got to the overhacks.
He got it!
I cannot believe he got here.
You need some more.
So we're hitting tier 3s, Beastmaster creeps are hitting the melee barracks top.
Another 14 seconds till the Monkey King's back up.
DM.
His X will pull him out of range here, but it's still the building down.
The first plane of Rax going to P-Vision here.
Off some sick high ground defense execution.
The monkey's back up, but they will not retreat, and now it's 20 seconds till the SF.
Trying to hold off. Another tier three is going to fall here.
Soxa, taking advantage of the slight retreat there from P-Vision,
trying to grab C-Tanik before they can get away.
They're just using items better, and if there's any more value out of this horse nap hex itemization,
then the index have gone out of all of their own whaling firepower.
It feels as if they need more Lincoln's Lotus as something.
Just prevent that initial go, or you just jump and sort the fight under terms of you just
eat yourself and drop a luke on stun, instead of being given,
and don't allow these hexes to have that advantage that they're having right now.
But you gotta have some sort of game plan.
Because look at the committal, no one's even committed in this fight.
Like, they're poking you, you're getting sprouted, you're getting changed, you're getting solarbound.
There's a willow that's pulling you back in.
And all of a sudden, the second you're hexed,
so Tana commits the long-range right clicks.
There's a clear turn-on opening in these fights.
Well, let's see what Gandex learned from that.
Is it never go high ground?
Or is it going to be the better item usage?
We do have the Lincolns being built by Malady.
He recognized the problem that they have.
He also has just hit level 25 off another round of wisdom.
So he's got extra impetus damage.
Same goes with Soxa, with the sharpshooter.
So they certainly have their own burst damage problems.
Just been finding the initiation,
which is hard to get when you're the one
sitting on the low ground.
I like the Lingtons, again recognizing the situation.
I think it will come down to,
can you start a fight on your terms?
Can you get this Wukong placed down on top of some heroes,
Stun some people up and pop BKBs and get the job done.
Not only can you afford the left key vision to continue to play the poke game here.
Their long-range poke is really causing you issues, you don't have a good response to
it.
This top lane is such a nuisance.
It means that Konka just has to sit up here until the fight starts.
It's really obnoxious that Yandex can't have him on that front line with the Hex.
Yeah, it's just not nearly as easy for Dm to connect with this because he's not there
at the start.
Someone has to deal with the wave pressure in this game.
Still the cheese fell on some big loads this year.
It's just staying to play around, but there's the Beast or a fresher, so you have the Roar
Hex Roar.
You have the caudal hex, you have the potential multi-cast hex.
That's just ridiculous, you're out of sight advice, man.
And I think my favorite part about this is, this is a discussion, a decision that was made like 20 minutes ago.
Oh yeah, right? I mean, we got a plan for it.
Ogre was working on this for a while. They were on the back foot, and they saw their way, they saw this game was going late.
How do we itemize in order to give ourselves a chance to win these late game fights?
Mass psyched advice it is.
It's the sign of an elite team. Your ability to itemize yourself
out of the hole, out of the situation, cope with the solution.
This licking is not easy going against all this SF monkey scale.
You really have to have a good idea of how you're going to play the fights
and how you're going to use your network to mitigate their physical advantage.
They are doing exactly that. To defend your high ground it's a whole another to take a team fight.
end the potential buyback.
They try to get the initiation. Gunner on the multi-kank. He's nullified for now.
They can't control him though. He got off his BKB. Blue Cog turned around the roar.
Placed on the SF, the SF is toyed! And from a distance, Santanik will bring him down!
Now with the SF, go on, run away!
Back in for the Dino Wave. What a play from DM showing a big there.
Being able to get two different pick offs. And now, no one has to plop his BKB off an A on disc plop.
Gems on the ground. Malty will grab one of them. Two of them in his inventory.
a third left to the ground. Honestly not the worst exchange for Yandex. Yeah you
lose your SF but you get double support buyback as they commit him instantly to
go for this Roshan and stick tight away from DM pulling you back into this
Wukong you really have to maximize the Wukong value in the scheme. He does a
refresher short. This is a Rosh you can contest. You can commit the SF buyback
for it. Get another Wukong. It requires someone kicking to be in a position
though and it's very talky, don't have a smoke.
It's nemesis has been 9 class with this Will-A-Wiss.
He can't hop into these trees and get close to the pit easily.
There it is, he knocks it down right there.
They stop him from being pulled off of the cliff.
It's not quite enough time for P-Vision to take this Roshan clean.
In fact, Satanic is almost dead here.
Has to pop a Satanic and it's BKB refresh there.
No one.
He gets out with his remnants off the refresher.
Meanwhile, DM.
Ooh, that was a big chunk of damage there.
Satanic still hitting pretty hard.
Even against the tanky, punk gun, Roshan, this time, it's Roshan leaving the pit to go top again.
While Manny's under assault from trees right now, they have a full lane of barracks right now.
I can't believe they didn't buy this SF, and I also can't believe that Fusion didn't force that quite a little bit more,
trying to get the SF by. Now they're trying to kill Roshan as it's walking across the map, but it's uncontested.
The slight chains holding him down, Roshan's going to die in the middle of the map.
The spoils of war will go to P-Vision!
That's successful, Rochon, in the end.
But now the turn to P-Vision!
You have the advantage. You've got the extra life.
Are you willing to go high ground with it?
I think you have to try and send it to some degree.
You could do it with some slip-wish pressure, though.
You have a bit more tools at your disposal than how you take this fight, particularly with pexes.
And you can kind of sit the fear on he's hitting the tower.
The units are forced to commit a little bit unless you're being forced to have title wave him in.
You can see a similar situation, but you can also park summons on one lane, start hitting the other,
see what develops out of that, and you always have that theory on five back to come into an aggressive push.
60-minute items he committed for the enchanter's bobble is going to continue to bobble,
went for the vault, 40 primary attributes, and maybe he could have by a divine rapier soon.
The smoke in the top lane doesn't work initially for P vision.
You gotta remember this evolved this different on universal heroes.
He gets to 24 across the board.
So there's technically more overall stats for a universal hero, and he's pobbling it.
That's a lot of stats.
Yeah, kind of insane.
We'll see if that divine rapier comes out.
Rogali, at least for the SF, will up his damage.
You did not get the Stygian on the monkey though.
There's no way you're taking butchering dead over Stygian here if you are a cheery or a junior.
true, so a bad role for him.
We'll see what else.
Beastmaster, Harmonizer, Stitching Desolator, Book of the Dead is what I assume he wants
to take.
No, he hasn't made that decision yet.
The book is pretty nice here, that Stitching is also pretty nice just you getting hits
it for everybody else, but he'll take the book.
You're too good individually on him, you're also adding to the lane and the map pressure
here, you have so many summons on the map.
Well, somebody's gonna take that stitch in it's gonna be Malady with 115 extra movement speed
He's cruising around
With this impetus. He's pretty damn hard
The thing is you rather have this digital lucky in the book on the enchantress for the Rappler Rouser right of course pure damaged nuke pack
So it's kind of sad for you index that they got it on the opposite heroes here
You get it a little bit at least in the end and satanic has just run out of item slots
Too much gold for his own good
Still has almost 9,000 gold. He just flies a swift link into his backpack and I was outside what he wants to play with here
It's just it's funny because like I
Hurt keep like and still felt like a very important item that extra attack range to hit the SF without being hit back
Right don't let the SF get the opportunity to swing with the satanic
We haven't seen Watson pull that off a single time yet these fights
got the war on tier 2 now, all in on it!
everything that they have to kill this monkey king and down he goes
and now the extra heroes, they push out, Watson has to turn around,
start swinging at the Ember spirit, but they go for Soxa with the nullifier
they're going to take him down easy, a refresh, you don't want to keep going directly
he's going to hit him, but the A out this is going to protect him
and he gets off a BKB, jumps over them and away he goes
there's a monthly buy
there's a couple of kills there with the monkey king
and Tantan actually went for Watson to hit him with the side device
Stopping Watson during his C-Tanning time, he still has VKB to be able to work with.
Wukong's man in for the side, went for the Beastman.
Got him inside the Wukong's man, inside with the invisible lady, he's going to fall.
Two dead, now another, aside the Vise, push back up the Emperor to the end.
The damage to finish him off, the worry jumped away through his remnants.
He doesn't have anything up, he's going to die.
C-Tanning shoot the Beastman!
But Vex didn't pick up for Yandex, as that was a must-win play with Vybex being utilized.
They had to get a teamfight victory in, but they are a long ways away
long ways away from victory because now they're the ones who have to force the buybacks out
of P-Vision.
And you still lost a lane of racks, there's just no way to keep your base alive in any
sort of engagement when there's so many creeps going for the rat action.
However, you have a window here, you have a window to potentially win this game if you
can win one more teamfight and you still have the refresher shard for Chirijunior.
He never ended up using it because he never got that initial Wukong off.
Courier snap's going out as well.
You could full send it here.
You have an SF5 to play with.
Tier 3's straight to the Tier 4's.
Is that going to be the idea here for Yandex?
Not quite.
They're going to play it a little bit slower here.
Leading off Milify, pulling back into the ogre match on.
There goes one of those side devices.
That's down for two minutes.
As the single target disabled start getting picked off
one after another, Watson's game has
made easier and easier.
Malty on the front lines, seemingly untouchable at this point.
They know what they're trying to do, but here goes to Wilcox's man.
The Ember Spirit's got to get out of this AOE.
He does manage to do so, but that leaves the Tier 4 exposed.
He has another one.
Ikeletta's going to be pumped.
A refresh used.
Another round.
Trying to go for the roar.
Dustin managed to get through the linkage.
Placed onto Watson.
Tier 4 is dropping fast.
Malady's going to drop low here.
No one.
No one.
No one.
Placed onto him.
Rukwin goes out.
Still though.
Malady gets burned through.
Not there for down.
You got a goal.
This is time for some sort of defense to be put up.
They've got to go in now with no luck.
There's something to stop Watson.
He pops a BKB, goes all in, they get the game three!
Yeah, they were struggling to be able to close out this game two, and for a moment, they looked like it slipped through their fingers.
But in the end, they put the pieces together.
And the exit close-out game two, we're gonna see a third game series in this playoffs.
They clutch it up. That game was a 50-50 going down the stretch.
less than a 1,000 gold difference at the 65-minute mark.
And they find a way to win that last teamfight that they needed.
The school game is just building to that moment,
because there's no way you're going to get a fair fight.
There's no way you're going to get a fight where you don't have to use some aggressive buybacks
and get something out of the exchange, run it down, and win the second fight off of that.
They help that refresher chart for the monkey that entire time.
He's able to use it at the very end for double WCOM on the throne,
which just forces you into a really rough spot.
off-spot. I think Division had to go even sooner at that point. Yeah, if they
recognize that, but there's just no clear opening if that wu climbs down. The
fearing cannot engage into it. We saw how fast Satanic dies. It is a bad matchup.
There's no way around it in the actual man fight. Some beautiful execution in
like that 40 to 60 minute period with the sight of ice spam preventing the
high ground pushes. Like that was executed very well. And it gave you a
chance to win this game winning that last Roshan. But that fight in mid lane where
And these two cores are just able to stand their ground, like you get the monkey pick,
but then DSF just hits there and he's the anchor that you play.
You can't kill him.
There's two big problems to solve in this game, and you are never able to take them
both off the field at the same time.
I think my favorite part about this game is the way the Gandyx closed it out.
You know, we were talking about, okay, maybe they're being a little bit too passive, it
still works for them.
The game almost slips through their fingers.
It could have been time to play scared, right?
It could have been going, oh guys, maybe we can't actually take this game.
Last time we went high ground, it didn't work for us, but they sent it.
They went all in on that play, they get the pick-offs on the initial heroes,
they make the call to just commit to the throne, and they pull it off in a big, big way.
We're going to a game three.
You can see the happiness there as well on Team YannXS.
They pushed this series to a game three.
This series is so close that all the advantages that we see coming out for the teams,
They're so small, but they mean so much, Effie.
That was an insanely high-spilled game.
That was such a treat and pleasure to watch,
because it did feel like it added up
to a lot of the small things.
But as that game progressed, and we went to the Ultra Lake game,
the problem with the Lucombs arena from CJ
was just too big of an obstacle.
A lot of the fights felt like, are we addressing this monkey?
Are we starting the fight by knocking him off a tree?
Are we able to reward him?
Because if not, you have this huge arena
after that level 25 talent.
And the fight is split up.
You can't really commit on the Shot of Fame
because you can't step into the Wukong's
and then SF just gets to go to town.
Yeah, on top of that, you have both,
you have Hex, you have the control
that DM did bring to the table.
Really loved his atomization in this one.
Like, opted to go for more like,
kind of control build where he is like first item lotus,
picked up the wrap,
something he got too much value out of that one.
But later on, picking up the Shiva's,
picking up the Hex as well,
which was the big pick up kind of on the both sides actually.
And we did expect this series to be very even
and it definitely was like you really didn't know
who's gonna win up until the last seconds pretty much.
And I love the killer instinct that did kind of kick in
for the other team because like they were losing
they were about to be, you know, not knocked out.
They would still play for that third place
but not a chance to play in the grand finals tomorrow.
And definitely showed up there like, yeah,
we got to do this, the Wukong's command,
the double Vulcans command, making sure that Shadowfiend is going to be getting the right
flex in.
Yeah, they really clawed themselves back into this game because if this game would have
dragged out longer, eventually, Satanic would have been able to take down all the rocks
and it was just, the map was closing in on that.
It really was and if we look at the tier 5 neutral items that dropped, there was double
Stygians on the Andax with a Divine Regalia on us.
So the amount of physical damage output towards that late game portion of the fight was ridiculous.
We saw ourselves was like two-shotting everybody including Satanic's nature's profit and they couldn't really get the same kind of damage
I'll put there LaCosta. Yeah, I think what
like happens after 60 minutes if the kind of game is
Stabilizing you don't necessarily need to pick up your neutral item
You're waiting until you see what enemies did go for so you see this enchanters bubbles twice and you're like, okay
We're gonna give it a go. We're gonna go into the fight have divine regalia have our increased damage coming up from the shadow thing
we have double Deso on top of that so we're gonna be bringing in that extra bit of a damage and then
again Malady could this guy just plays differently like we've seen him again going for the scaling
build going for this agonim scepter which is super annoying this is the undispellable root
and it also allows you to scale so well into the late game like he was a real menace to deal with
they didn't really have the answer for him. Yeah I'm so glad you brought him up because outside of
that late game chaos and beauty that we witnessed they got so much value out of Malady's enchantress
in that mid-game because there was a moment where it looked like P-Vision might have the tempo
and might run them over but they used Melody's body very effectively as a means to soak ganks
and smokes and there was this one moment where they overcommitted on Enchantress, couldn't take
him down and then Yandex were backing the game because they were able to kill Statenin.
Yeah we've seen so many clutch plays like we've seen so many aggressive four-staffs coming up
from nine-class like the Hexes, the Hex, the Beastmaster picked up, the Nullifier as well pushing
them inside their own base, plus also multiple times in this game, like they're coming down his
tree, they're blasting them with the blinding light off of the trees, and CJ he really didn't have that
good of a time, like at, because he was dominating, but like he was so far ahead, but he got shut down,
I feel like they understood that it's still Emberspring, he can come back into the game,
and he definitely did, but in the end it's just that like it came down to one big fight in the
mid lane. And I think that is the fight you would like to show us. I think it's the one before it
because it's gonna come down to Roche fights in general like we've seen particularly this fight
where we are seeing P-Vision who are going for Roche on but the Roche on started to migrate and
they already used quite a lot of things here they still have BKB on Beastmaster but they don't have
Roar, they don't have Satanic with the BKB for Roche on he's gonna drop very very low you could
already seen at Beastmaster, he made a slot available to potentially pick it up and then
another Wukong's like you still have Wukong's command, you still have right clicks from Shadowfin,
something you talked about, it's very difficult to approach because of the overwhelming damage
of synergy between these two heroes and then in the end DM, he catches them with the blind torrent
and that's going to be for dead for P-Vision because at this point of the game, they were kind
of ahead with this Aegis potentially, they would definitely go for the high ground plant
to ban her and potentially try to end the game but this very clutched play coming up from then
definitely turned it around. Yeah the Riptides from DM won crazy too that Matt Clips he just
showed us he was able to catch some people back there was also a moment where they dropped
C.J.s Mukongs which we talked about being the key part of the fight. Can K.Vision kite the
Mukongs can they fight into it or can they catch out the Monkey King there was a moment where
they actually ran away from it but DM just pulls two of them back and it's the one fight off the
butt. Now we know that this series is close and the both teams are very good and that's why
it is close but my question is why did this game last so long like was it was
it also that close in the draft or was there one portion in particular that
for example you guys would like to see a dress from either team going into game
number three because I'm enjoying this but I'm sure the teams would like to have
games and a little sooner and like to be a little bit more dominant with it I
mean I think both of those drafts were very strong and that's why we got such a
a nail biter and close game. And honestly, that's the type of game that you look at if
you're P vision, I suppose. And if you're going to pick one thing, it would be the moment
that you chased enchantress into her jungle and you couldn't kill her and then you end
up swiped you. So it's more of like, um, we maybe messed up our consideration of how
to deal with this hero. But I wouldn't want to see either team change anything.
Yeah, most definitely like the map rating was so good in this game. That's why these
These teams are on top of their game at the moment because they can expect where the enemy
is going to strike and that Enchantress bait that you talked about that was top tier from
them kind of the turnaround point as well.
There were many in this game because the game was so even and we've seen some clutch plays
as well where they've like the fights happening in the mid lane or in the triangle and they're
sending out some trains, they're sending out the Helm of the Dominator creep from Beastmaster
to kill off the Barracks in the mid lane as well.
So, kind of punching in two different directions, but in the end it came down to, I'd say, tier 5 neutral items, they chose the right ones and they decided to end the game.
It's a little decision that you make in a game like this that will win you the game.
I think we saw Watson on the Shadow Fiend. I think maybe that will be no longer possible because he was shut down earlier on, but he was still able to be the Shadow Fiend that the team wanted.
Yeah, it was a more quiet game, like one of the quieter ones we've seen from the Shadowfinn,
especially the winning ones, where most of the time you see Shadowfinn go like 15-0,
they're all over the place. We've seen Nightfall having great performance wits as well,
where they completely dominated the games, but he got rotated on, like in some of these early
engagements, he was the one that was getting the trade, they were trading Satanic early on
for the kill on Shadowfinn, and then later on he also dies one more time. So he had a bit of a
slower game, Monkey King was the one who was trying to set the tempo, and he also got punished
because a lot of the times you would see them, again, trying to outnumber,
trying to find a way because they knew exactly that vessel timing.
It's going to come, and as soon as you got it, he tried to play aggressive twice.
He got punished for it, so it's going to come down again,
as we said before the series started, to the smallest things, smallest details,
because they're really pushing the limits.
But I've much, much enjoyed CJ's Monkey King versus the Slider in-game.
Oh, yeah.
As a response to the Ember, because the response to the Ember in that game
felt too weak. Whereas in this game too, you know, you go deeper into your pockets,
I'll start heroes that maybe other teams aren't playing. And I think they should stick to that
approach if we're going to see Ember live through in game three.
You feel that this is enough to now remove Ember from the series? Or do you think that
Jan next is like, okay, you know, we countered it, we or at least we won versus it.
You can have it again.
Not necessarily. I mean, I think no one's very happy to keep playing Ember Spirit if they keep
giving it to him and if there's like no Huskar or something scary that you have to think about.
I think every single game that I've seen Ember Spirit where he's playing into losing the matchup
where that's going to be Huskar, Necrophos, anything that's going to ruin him in the first
five to ten minutes, the hero still recovers pretty decently but we are seeing him pulling
the creep ways to the other camps getting something done on the map so one of the reasons why this
this hero is such a powerhouse so far at EWC.
And I feel like if they leave it in the pool,
there's a high chance that no one wants to play it again,
because he's definitely feeling it.
Like he's definitely feeling himself on this Ember spirit,
and he's done quite a lot of work.
How big of a difference did first pick, second pick make
to this series?
And we feel this second game, it was young next to that one,
and they had second pick in this game, did they?
Yeah, they had the 24 pick on Monkey King
I do think that was the difference maker because let's say they didn't have that overall last pick to counter Ember
And they had just gone for a typical pucker slaughter
I don't think we would have seen that game go that far because the landing stage would have been easier for
Prevision yeah, and of course game one it was also a team that had second pick that came out victorious
So we'll have to wait and see who gets that leg up in game number three game number three
Of course coming your way very soon before that though
So we're gonna find out how DM felt before this series even began.
Hello, I'm here with DM from the Andex. You guys knocked out Team Spirit yesterday, 2-0. I was curious how close...
It was not yesterday, yeah, 2 days. My mistake. How did that series feel? Did it feel close?
It felt like a series against a great team, which Team Spirit are, so it wasn't easy, but it was not ultra complicated also.
The game was kind of in our control both games, so it felt fine.
So you didn't play yesterday, obviously. What did you do in that time instead?
We'll play some pups and we'll just scrim some decent teams.
I mean, one decent team.
So yeah, we just prepared a little bit for today, that's all.
I was curious what scrimming is like at this stage in the tournament.
Because I feel like teams that get eliminated, they probably go home partially,
so they can't play you guys.
What do you do for scrim partners?
We scrim the team which is playing right now on the stage, so...
Okay, thought it was a side, yeah, that makes sense.
That's a good way to do it.
You guys are top four now.
E-Vision looks really strong.
They're definitely one of the best teams left in the tournament.
So, how do you think you're gonna do?
I mean, we're just gonna do our best and we'll see how it goes.
There's nothing to like predict.
We're just gonna try to draft well, just play well,
do our basics and see how it goes.
It's obviously a great team, so it ain't gonna be hard.
It ain't gonna be easy, I mean.
Do you think that there's any draft advantages that you have,
like strategy advantages, better hero pool for you versus them or anything like that?
To be honest, I have no idea because I'm not like main roster of the team.
So, I mean, I just hope we're gonna do a decent one, so yeah.
Yeah, hopefully the games will be fun to watch.
Thank you for joining me, and good luck in your matches.
Thank you, have a great day.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, I am here with Team Andex.
The future champions of EWC, is that correct?
Maybe.
Maybe?
Yes.
Are you more confident in the UNO game than your Dota?
Yes, it's easy.
It's easy.
Who is your biggest nemesis in Dota 2 right now?
I don't know.
I don't have this team.
You're just a nice guy.
Yeah.
You just want to beat everybody equally?
Yeah.
Is this true for you?
Yes.
You are very good.
You are also a nice guy?
Yes.
Is everybody on your team a nice guy?
Of course.
That's never true.
I've been on teams.
I know this isn't true.
Name a name.
Tras.
Everyone is good.
Maybe he's a good team.
Is this true?
Maybe.
Are you afraid of Soxa because he's so tall?
A threat is not a correct word. I would say we respect Soxa.
Respect him? Why do you respect him?
He helps us improve and he is experienced.
Do you think you could defeat Soxa in a one-on-one physical altercation?
Yeah, probably. If he would be without limbs, maybe I have a chance.
Could you defeat him in 1v1 combat?
We have weapons.
I'll give you a weapon and him none.
Sure. If I have spear, then...
He's a really tall guy though, but speed is like very long.
Is it difficult to play with Soxa?
Because when you guys are all talking to each other,
he's like up here, and you can't hear what you're saying?
Yes.
The Grand Semifinals continues with the UNDXMP vision on stage, our first game 3 of the playoffs
coming year away is one to one and this series is incredibly close the tiniest of things
could be the difference maker in making it to the grand finals or having to play in a
third fourth place decider which to be honest for both teams being top four being top three
would be a disappointment if these teams are here to win the whole thing.
Yeah, I mean, it's wild to think one of them will probably end up winning that third-fourth place decider.
I mean, I can't see them losing, to be honest, but this, to me, feels like a grand finals in and of itself.
That second game really showed us what it looks like when two evenly-matched teams go up against each other,
and they shouldn't, you know, think ahead. Just focus on now. Who cares about that third-fourth place tomorrow?
Well, let's focus on now, because the draft is upon us.
We got P-Vision on the Radiant side, Yandex on the Dire side.
That seems to be the way they prefer things, because that's been the same the whole series.
First pick goes P-Vision, second pick, and overall last pick, therefore, goes the way of Yandex,
which is the repeat of what we had in Game 2.
In terms of drafting though, we have already got some changes on the board.
Shadowfiend got removed from the pool.
We left Largo in because of that, but there's changes all across the board because Willow and Dawnbreaker all still in.
Yeah, Largo is one that was just being banned for the team that could potentially pick Darkseer,
so I don't think it's going to be in contention unless the need for a Dispall comes through like a Winranger pick.
Yeah.
I could definitely see that.
I'm also looking at this Nature's Prophet ban.
It caused them quite a lot of issues because they
In a lot of these fights you would see him outranging Shadowfinn where Shadowfinn was not actually hitting him
He's stuck in the sprout and he's dishing out the damage
And this time around the vision will pick up invoker like we are seeing the switcheroo
What is heel?
Yeah, absolutely because you know it was banned in the second game
They would probably be a very good invoker game, especially with the concupering
They decided to ban it in the last phase, but this time around straight up opening with invoker
So some of the heroes I would say from the position 4 slash 5 are gonna be getting
Slightly more priority. I would like Bane. I think Bane definitely has to go
From team the index because it is Bane plus invoker setup
It's also Bane against Pango, which could be very difficult matchup for him
This is really different out of p-vision to me this says that
They're thinking about how Yandex can enable CJ and how different the game looked when he had a lane.
And this is one of the CJ heroes that you can early pick. Like you mentioned, Lycalce, you wanted them to look for an early pick in Voker.
So I think this overall first in Voker would not happen against any other team but Yandex.
Yeah, most definitely. This is not something that... It's just a matchup, knowing that there is a very mean in Voker player on the other side and Pango.
We haven't seen too much of a pango during the group stage, the hero was kind of silent, it did get slightly more priority once we got to the survival stage and in the playoff still showing that this hero is a menace to deal with.
It's really good against Invoker as well, especially if you can snag up a keeper of the leg for yourself on Yandex, you're super happy because Invoker historically struggles against pango on lane because his waves got shoved out and when he hits that level set at 6 he just has a BKB with his rolling thunder.
So he just runs at you with a plus one support rotation and Invoker is very vulnerable to this.
Yeah, have you focused on supports for the next pick phase and that's also why we're probably
going to see a heavy focus on supports on this band phase with already the Hootwing removed from
the pool, Keeper of the Light Bane, the two most feared ones still in and of course the Willow still in here.
She ever listened to this carry Invoker position one.
No, I think they're too soon.
I don't think they were going to see that.
Yeah, just being sarcastic, I don't think I want to see it for the rest of the tournament.
What a way to go out, though.
Yeah, with a wimper.
Sam.
Anyway, I'm dying removed, which is a strong one for Yonex as well.
So, understandably so that they remove that.
Let's see which one is the one that Yonex wants to remove.
Keep in mind, they can pick right out of this phase.
So they can ban a support and also pick one.
Yeah, they could potentially like take the bane for themselves.
This is a team that doesn't really play Wyvern, I would also look into that hero for P-Vision potentially
in the second pick phase because it gives you something to deal with Pango during the rolling thunder.
It's a super strong laner, it secures the lane for almost that invoker in the carry roll.
I think this is a DGIS band, you pick Keeper of the Lamp, you enable your Pango and you take away their best support to set up some strikes.
Very strong here from the index.
Yeah.
Clockwork still in the pool, this is the hero that also sets up the Sunstrike play as well.
From position 4, 9th class, his hero pool doesn't really do it as much. Dark Willow is like okay-ish.
I'm maybe looking more towards like Shadow Shaman and things, but I just had this in my mind.
A couple of games where he played Shadow Shaman and he really didn't have that good time.
This is also not a BB team, so probably Shadow Shaman is not going to get as much priority.
priority. Do you not like the Earth Spirit anymore in 4.9 times? Or because it's no longer
a flex, because we already have the Invoker unless Invokers don't care, but he's not.
Because it's no longer a flex. Yeah, I would prefer if they have the flex potential where
you pick it early on and still have, you know, slightly bigger picture what's happening in
the draft. Yeah, the thing about Earth Spirit is the strength of Earth Spirit comes for
p-vision from the ES plus Dark Seer duo. And if Dark Seer is addressed within the first
phase of bands, then you can't really introduce your flecks anyway. So having it be a mid-Earth
spear would also lead to the Slardars from CJ, which is not a good matchup.
They'll get the Winter Wyvern for now instead.
Yeah, the hero that we mentioned for a good reason, the hero just gives you pretty much
everything, gives you teamfight, gives you setup for another round of spells later on,
gives you fight reset. Very good against Pango because all his spells are physical damage
then you can just split the fight, then you can save whoever gets initiated on.
Well, there's a hero that's still in the pool, that, um, that Lone Druid.
That's what I was gonna say.
So, are we happy seeing the Lone Druid here?
We know Interviver is considered to be one of the support counters,
so they took that one already out of the equation as well.
We've seen Lone Druid be very dominant earlier on today.
Um, yeah, I mean, Lone Druid is always a hero you have to worry about,
The Yandex are the one team in this tournament that have let it through four times in a row
and beat it every single time.
So they have the most experience playing against Laundroid and they could bust out their carry
Lena even if they feel like it's a good pick for it because it just addresses the Laundroid
problem.
Let's just beat Laundroid four times, they beat it four times in a row.
Like this is pretty much the statement, we're going to leave it in the pool and you have
option to pick it and if you do pick it we have the answers for it
let's see if Alina will come out two picks coming out
sorry I'd like to see maybe Enigma coming out
for Yandex it's a very good hero and the like is you're not winning the lane in
straight up trading against Laundroid especially if there's Winter Wyvern
it just feels like it's very very difficult to play any type of a lane
Like some of the other heroes that they have used against it was...
Beastmaster as well as a good...
Yeah, Beast like Centaur but these Centaur is gone already.
I'm leaning towards Enigma.
Now they get the Jaquiro for now.
Jaquiro has made a big splash towards the end of the group stages,
but it's been a little while since we've seen him here on the main stage.
It's very good, like when you think about some old-school counters to...
Let's say Shadowed even when he's met up with the defensive disruptions, defensive winter
weapon abilities, Icebat is a very nice follow up onto that plus you also have insane amount
of magic damage that you can throw onto the guy who is getting healed and also super strong
laner.
Like we've seen as you said she was getting slightly more popularity.
It was Aurora who brought it back and it looked very very good.
It looked like again an OP hero in the lane with the right partner killing the hero from
100 to 0. Yeah, I think this looks like a really good Jakiro for the reasons you
mentioned, but if Pango is getting countered by the physical damage counter of
Wyvern, then you just secure it with easy magical damage and Jakiro provides
left. DM's enigma does come out and we know we already have the carry, we already
have the mid, there's not gonna be a lane counter for this.
And we'll see where P-Vision wants to go with their pick. This is also the time
where they should be thinking about what Watson will play as the overall last pick that Gennex will get.
And that Lina is still looking pretty nice, so I would imagine maybe that will be worthy of a ban.
We got the Axe pick up for now. Are we liking the Axe coming out here?
Yeah, this is pre-emptive Axe, something like it's a Sunstrike setup, so you can always go for a play.
I think they needed a hero that's going to be frontlining for them, somebody to start a fight,
because other heroes want to keep the distance.
So, big fan of this, you don't see the matchup,
but the act can always get something out of the lane,
so definitely feels good on 18.
Yeah, I think it's also kind of a pick that discourages from heroes like...
because there's a feel like at Yandex's draft,
they've got a lot of ranged heroes,
they've got the Jekiro, the Kodrel, the Enigmund.
They would have needed a melee carry to play with the hero into lane
and acts as very much an anti-malay carry type of hero.
So it removes the potential of Kaz and sure you can pick something like Alina
carry now to play into the axe but then you've just got one pango starting the
fights for you every single time.
For now they remove the tiny we see the rubik being removed on the side of Jan
Dex and we are still looking for hero for nine class on the side of P vision
unless there's some strange synonyms going on but not expecting that for the
moment and we got the necrophos also removed from the pool by p-vision so
what's in can't play that one either I'm thinking if there's a hero because you
need to think about like multiple different things with this last bit you
are playing against pkb piercing ability multiple pkb piercing abilities you're
playing against the long road matchup you're playing against something that
stops your physical damage from going through so not that easiest way to find
the hero I would be okay maybe with like Phantom Lancer that could come out for them but it's
also not at 24 PL so it doesn't feel as strong because you are giving them ways to counter it so
I mean it is 24 I mean he tries to play PL wherever he can and I think it would
still be a very strong PL game the only issue is if this noble starts from p-vision and your
PL isn't ready, you're just gonna get run up non-stop. But Watson has picked PL in
situations where there was an enemy snowball available and it still worked
out for him. We'll see what it goes for, there's still half a minute left for them
to think about it. The Wind Ranger came out near instantly for P vision so that
will be their position for unless they want to run an invoker in 4? Nah, crazy.
Just a nice range support, something to play with the axe, you're going to have that added
bit of disable from the Shackle and it'll make your lane much easier.
I mean Windranger plus axe is a rough lane, even if you have Jikiro.
Yep.
Let's see what it will lane against, still the Phantom Lancer comes out.
And that's why I mentioned it, I see these heroes, it looks very good, it's very good
in the lane against axe because of the battle hunger, you're not really getting affected
by it by any means and you know this is a game where it really matters so you're going to be
diving in deep I already talked about like four other counters that they have something that
needs to be done about the last pick which is not an easy pick and this is where the teams like the
more experienced teams are going to be digging good deeper into the hero pool and finding something
that can work out for them they have a pango coddle the combination is going to be insane
Throughout the whole game, of course, it's very annoying to play against that they have enigma.
There is counter to enigma in this one because like you have a Sun Strike, you have a Cataclysm,
you have Axe Call, maybe on the edge, you have Winter Scourge.
So ways of stopping the Black Hole, so it's not the easiest enigma game by any means,
but DM is also going to be getting stuff out of the lane, which I really like,
because after seeing Wyvern plus Lone Root, this lane is literally unplayable.
What are we thinking F? We have closest distress.
to me it seems quite even again in terms of the power of each draft I do think
that if p vision win their lanes then the andex are in a tough situation but I do
like this pango versus invoker so that lane should be fine I think PL's lane
should be okay as well and if they can come out of the lanes decently dodged a
few bad fights then it is PL's game to win here it is overall scaling in favor
of the PL here. If this game goes late, yeah, much has an edge. And we have seen this game
go late. Game 2 was an example of that. It was very back and forth, very close. This
time around, very different drafts coming our way, Lacoste.
Yeah, this is what kind of expected, this is what we were talking about as well. So
you are going to be getting different heroes. This is the guy that has been in Dota scene
for 25 years so he's seen everything like every possible matchup everything that
has been changed he has been through this he has been winning the tournament
he has been through pretty much everything possible that had could
happen in Dota did happen to him so having that experience behind him
seeing the potential draft that could have worked out for them in this game
where it really matters so not really surprised that we've seen teams go for
completely different matchups like completely different heroes.
With that being said, there is an overall first pick in Voker, which is unusual and a little bit spicy, so that is the big question here.
Will no one be able to shine on us in Voker? Will P-Vision claim their spot in the grand finals, or will it be Yandex?
We're finding out. Cap and SPG, over to you.
Going into this series, neither team had truly been tested.
Both of them have only lost a single game, and the group stage easily washed away by their quite superior scores coming out of it.
is coming out of it.
Going into playoffs, they managed to get easy 2-0s.
But finally, in one of the highest skilled games
we've seen all year, this game two,
we did see both teams truly get pushed to the brink there.
Yandex came out the better for it,
but it only gets them to this game three.
They're all besetled here.
We'll make it to the grand finals.
Yandex versus Peavision, already starting off
with a bit of early action here as Zoxa found right
next to the tier one tower and a Sun Strike that could
deliver the kill over to the mid laner of no one but instead goes to the carry
Satanic. He will always take the gold if it's available. Can't last hit this kid.
And I still start for the lone druid. And some heroes coming out in this game 3
that I expected to see in this series. The Invoker, the Enigma, the PL as that last
pick. Some spicy clutch picks that have a lot of scaling power behind them. That's
what strikes me this game. Like this is not a game I think either team is
expecting to run over. So you're looking to get some of these heroes that are going to
quietly scale into that late game with some backup and try and put the pressure on you
in those late game team fights. The PL could be a big problem in this game, but I do think
between Voker and Axe, plus two stunning supports, you have ways to kind of catch him
and just fall in him. And I think the bear can cause some heroes' issues that forces
the PL to respond. And you can maybe play around that, around the map. Like there's a lot of
global pick-off potential, this axe, collar, shackle lands, in the
sun strike, into a bear that pops out from Indiz, it can just surprise you and
kill anybody in this game. That is something the Andex are gonna have to
think about. But if it does go ultra late, I mean, there's just so much chaos in
the teamfight. Between Eidolon's, Caudo Blast, J'Kyro spells, there's a pango
rolling in that you have to deal with, and then there's animal lands or
illusions running amok. Incredibly toxic to land upon, I would not want to play
against this the Andex line. It's like one of those lineups you've seen up probably,
like come on dude really like this is what you guys are playing you know why
you so try hard this is such a try hard trap so see we're working out for this
is a hero that got back to this phantom lancer that I feel it's not a crush but
it's like how do we get out of this weird trap position will last a peel and
just put it all on the line hope Watson carry us on one of the signature heroes
and time and time again he's proven that he can't so we'll see if it gets them
into the grand finals here two of the highest win-rate heroes here and EWC the
Phantom Lancer especially having five wins and only the single loss at this tournament. Definitely a little bit more of a cheesy pickup
I mean Lone Druid is also a very cheesy hero. A pleasure. A hero that everybody knows is incredibly good right now
Do you think that it was worth giving this Lone Druid opportunity to P vision? Do you feel like they answered it appropriately enough?
or
Who's on a timer here?
Do I assume Phantom Lancer is fine to go late game against Long Druid, but I don't really know?
I don't think late game is very proud of Team. I think it will come down to execution.
They both have a lot of scale in the tank. I think the PL is one big factor. Like in theory, he scales super hard here.
But at a certain point, I can also see him falling off like ultra ultra late against his tripod. They get really big.
And I think the black hole is always an X factor, right? You have a Wyvern curse cancel.
Yep. You have a call cancel because that AOE gets kind of big now. Sure.
But the black hole is always licking threat. I do think they have good answers to the long drew like this is not a game
Where they gave it away and he's gonna have a free game the sore vines annoying the jacquero spells are annoying and they got their
Big lane counter for DM in this enigma. This has been the matchup that they favorite the most they're connecting away the long drew
They want the enigma on this lane with the idle on pressure going in the entangle on them
That's gonna be some bonus damage here especially with a Sun strike the line at the final hit not enough very fire
We'll save the day getting pressured out early though
This is what you want from the Lone Druid and some extra sustain from the Wyvern definitely helps the bear fight through some of the summons.
This enigma gets to level 3 and 5 uncontested. He's gonna kick you out of lane. He's gonna win this lane.
He's gonna dominate your tower. Very strong start.
Perseutanic in a matchup that the index is always gonna go a lot better for them.
Like we have four last hits on this enigma. He just got forced into the jungle to try and get to the level 3.
So you have a first blood Lone Druid with free farm down here kicking out the counter matchup.
Got to win it elsewhere, but this other side lane, the trade off on supports perhaps,
Knight class is going to get low, Watson off the call, couldn't finish the job, both
notice and Knight class will be low off of that, but he can't really keep it going.
Strong start for the Axe 2, quad gauntlet into a straight ring of health, you have these
sun strikes to play with off of every early call, he's mega tanky up here, he's mega
fat already, and this is a lane that Axe wins, you can't really win this lane as Pia, there's
no way around it. You try and limit the damage, you get your own farm. It's not the worst
matchup in the game anymore, but notice should be having a very good time in the first 15-20
minutes here.
Well, the upside of this early laning phase for Yandex will be the mid-lane matchup, because
Jira Jr. is really taking it to no one here. 11's and I's, 22 CS, has done very well for
himself and even harassing no one quite a bit, keeping him farther back. But of course
that can all be kind of undone if no one keeps getting funneled Sunstreak kills, which, well,
Well, he hasn't gotten one yet, he has assisted.
Still a good matchup in the game too.
I've been impressed by how much this Pango's been able to put pressure on Invoker in the big game.
He just commit the early roll, just don't run it in him.
Early glyph use, trying to kick him out here from being able to get the last hit on these range creep.
He's keeping the library.
The vicar library, he's got a swashbuckle, should be able to get away from a lot of damage,
especially with no one getting so low.
Cold embrace to help, but it also means he's going to miss some CS while that happens.
Meanwhile, Top Lane, notice he does manage to get that kill.
Watson is able to get the return now
Nice experience for the Phantom Lancer up here not too sad with that exchange
You can bring out some items on the jacquero Watson so low though between a power shot in the Sun strike
You got a brand show bring him something yeah, so yeah, so I'll drop bring it back
We'll end up being fine pretty long mana
But as long as PL's farming you don't really care about anything else be curious to see what my class goes on that winter
Ranger because it's pick was like I think you could have picked my class any hero there
Your draft kind of had everything it needed the function. So it was what you know
What spicy pick does he want to play there? And he they busted out the win ranger
Maybe for some more long-range poke off of some of these stuns. Maybe they just wanted another stun in general
But it's not a hero I'm used to seeing him play or bust out when he has his choice
Socks are sneaking around behind the invoker could not get in a position to get a landing light push into cheer junior
A lot of pressure right now though with this catapult wave mid the invokers
on level five and you have this Chalker magic behind the pango such a deadly
combination. Oh yeah. Very low cooldown swashbuckle, very low cooldown shield crash
combined with him having the opportunity for rolling thundering hasn't
leveled it up yet. Gotta bring both supports here to defend this push.
What if DM cuts over too? It'd be nice. It's kind of in the area farming up with
Right now the rune spot bottom though. That means church dreams going to spend a lot of time getting this
They're gonna lose their way of in a tower
They get the power and put that push moment with the catapult will be defended here
Yeah, I'm just trying to cut the land this time you got
Slowly that LD lane one. Yeah, this is not a lane you want to go cutting with the enigma on this
Only you want to be pressuring the bear
I just put him in a position always be able to farm up neutrals as well
Well, if you can hold to it, but also Benz, he's also in a position to get ganked here.
He's to call us and slowed him down, Satanicus run over, but Cheer Junior is the better of the two mid heroes right now.
So his presence kind of, kind of scary, Sunstrike lands on a Malady who's taken the man fight against 9-Class, and we'll lose that fight.
Key vision coming out strong in this game 3.
Two side lanes are absolutely cooking here.
It's only this mid that you end up having to play around.
Cheer Junior is so strong right now, Ken.
Is he gonna level up Rolling Thunder to take this Wisdom Shrine?
Nah, I don't think you can go in there on your own.
That's fair.
Get some forward spirit action though.
Meanwhile, you gotta deal with the bear.
Very fun, game.
Almost killing it.
Oh, the brace will spare it from ticking out.
Call Sunstrike!
Top lane, Watson gets dunked!
What a combo!
They snuck that one in out of nowhere on Watson.
Just axe rounding the corner, catching him on the call, and then Sunstrike dunk and just
rapid succession.
And we're going to see a couple more of these at least this game.
The call is just so deadly, because you're going to get a call aimed at guaranteed Sunstrike
until power shot into some migrants, like there's so much follow-up on every axe clay
in this game.
It's going to be a problem around the map, especially if the bear can get a fast Silver
Edge online and he's contributing to map pressure and something right around them.
This is where the map can just become really difficult to play, which to me has been the
theme of the series. It's like how do you get the lanes out without dying and how do you threaten
the enemy cores when they're trying to get the lanes in. Enigma will still kick these heroes out
of here that is how powerful the idolons are with the drum. Well you combine that with Chirichinir
also rotating out of the lane there's no way for them to fight this so we'll be in early tower
advantage it's looking like for Yandex that'll help offset the gold leap that P-Vision currently
has off of winning their sidelines. See how much damage they can get done on the map?
Would the enema be able to run into me areas in this pango? Should have a pretty nice timing
on the refusal and then Chaka magic behind him. You should be able to get out by the
tornado. I just gotta keep defending this mid tier one, if you're p-vision. Keep giving
space to no one. Keep looking for some Sunstrike kills. Relieve the pressure from the invoker.
to play through your two side laners a little bit. Keep doing it.
My class enjoys this battle with Malady because he's got Windrun,
where a large share of the damage early on from J'Kyro comes from that
liquid frost.
Chara Jr. is now hitting mid tower and at some point
P-Vision, are you gonna say enough is enough to try and stop these?
Maybe they don't really have the option to, especially since, uh, I mean, who's gonna rotate out of the side lane?
Certainly not C-Tanic. Winner Wyvern's not terribly strong right now.
You just gotta keep outspaming it.
You're not gonna bring your two side lane courses mid lane. The Axe is getting way too much right now.
He's power farming, and this all drew is not a hero that joins early fights, so you just gotta make do with what you have around it.
It doesn't mean you have support freedom to bring this Wyvern and Winranger into any play you want.
There's some benefit there.
Just got to play for your first item timing, try and keep this mid tower alive, keep the
priority in poker.
That's where that enigma swinging behind mid could have been nice early in this game,
but I think his lane just went too bad.
It is too low level to make that kind of rotation.
If he had dominated this lane, taken the bottom tier one quickly, he could have gone for that
mid swing, and it could have swept this temple up considerably, but you just got to play
it a little slower here.
It does have Black Hole online.
be a nice early game threat if you can have the supports back here.
Now he's zooming the haste room.
That's a tanky axe, man.
It's a tanky axe. It's a tanky bear.
There are a lot of tanky things sitting in front of Yandex that they just can't really threaten in these side lanes.
And all of the meanwhile, the visitor are probably very happy.
They've almost got no one to his meter hammer,
which will help him start chipping away this mid tower, but also increase his farm rate.
As long as the Terran's standing mid for Fusion, I think they're very happy with what's going on.
Diffusal Pango will pick the game up, but you're still a ways away from there.
So you got some more time to work with him.
Axe is doing axe things, man. You got a lot of early armor with this phase boots into the splint veil.
Almost level 10. You're always a threat on Watson with the Sunstrike backup.
If you get called into Power Shots on the Sunstrike, you get... chopped.
So you can't get too aggressive up here with the panel answer.
Depends on what supports you see on the map.
See 9-class mid? Okay, you can kick him out of lane.
You don't see who supports all the map?
Gets a lot spookier to go for that kind of simple play.
And there are some ancient stacks being cleared by Shira Jr. here.
Yeah, once again, the Undex seemed to be okay with...
I feel like they had the heroes to make moves, but they're okay just chilling.
and hitting a better timing later on. That'll be that diffusel blade timing.
Get to that. I don't mind that just because it's enigmaling to not go the way they wanted it to.
So your whole game slows down as a result and you just have to respect that, not force any bad moves.
That's all that's going to be the build up for the enigma.
A lot of money in the best way point tagger, that's for sure.
You will have to get something done with this in the build-up though.
If you go Vessel on this here, you need to go fight.
You need to get some Chargers, start pushing some heroes around the map, take that big
tower.
I mean, we'll scale a little bit here, I guess, against some of the anti-healing, throw
it on the bear, but...
And they'll have some like, it'll be a little difficult to use good cold embraces, because
there might be a Macklepire, they do have a Vessel, it sets up for the Illuminate Blast
of Soxa. There is some magic damage to punish it, at least early on.
And a smoke noticed. He went ring in the split mail into Blink. Very unexpected Blink if
you're sitting here as the end. Actually, he could pay off in a big way. He's about to get a two-man call!
The Sun Strike placed onto Soxa. One glowing play. Now attempt general luck, but a really great
winners curse. They're gonna troll him for so long, get the meter on him, and another dump.
What a surprise pick up from notice that plays off beautifully!
It's a third kill they're gonna get off of this play.
Oh, chop!
Oh, my, that is just so sick!
That is the...
I'm gonna just plate it slow. Oh.
That is the best outcome you could possibly hope for.
With rushing the blink over, uh, more farming and like,
playing on doing ancients or something.
Not only do you get three heroes off this play,
you get them in beautiful fashion, the invokers involved,
you steal some of the ancients, you get chops out of it.
And you lose nothing.
And Blink Dagger just paid for itself, basically.
100%.
Sit, move.
And you slow down that defuse all the pain.
Which is the one item you want to slow down in this game.
Absolutely.
That is just an immaculate move.
You can get that mid tower.
Yeah, with the hammer.
That's a 4-5 team networked equivalent player right there.
Off of a surprise blink.
And you're just not thinking about that at all because you're looking at the Zax.
Yes, Flipmail.
He has ring.
Alright, he's going to finish up the Blamemail, right?
This is standard build up, the rings for the regen, he's gonna go do some ancients, and then he'll have blinked.
You're thinking he's still like a thousand off of that, maybe 1500, and then all of a sudden he's just jumping you on your ancients.
Very, it's a call.
Gonna be a bit too late to contest the Wister Shrine again, his positioning.
Not there for it, but he almost has his mill there.
And then the axe, top of the net worth chart, and Watson's trying to catch up, but it's just a slower farming hero.
Manta will speed that along a little bit more, but it's time for Yandex to strike back here.
But look at something.
Just getting to call us off of this.
Not gonna be super happy.
It's free though.
That's true.
With Chakra magic, all these plays are free with the Pango.
You're gonna get something off of this move, but you're right.
It's not a big target.
It's the hero that PVisionar are happy to get away here, especially with three cores
all farming the map right now.
And there's the play mill for the axe.
So this axe call just got a lot deadlier.
tower is going to fall for free, they'll cut another wave and they can absolutely
bring him into another play. This is where the map becomes a little scarier to
play, particularly around that mid lane. You smoke that axe in the mid, he gets a
nice call, it's gonna set the whole team fight up because there's so much
follow up off of this stun and no way to really disengage from it in this game.
Nobody can really create a buffer unless you just blink black hole, oh you can't
lose the pango here again. Notice it splints past here, junior, junior, junior,
gets low grab, it does get jacked up, here comes the soundtrack, gotta throw the, no, the call comes through first!
Noticed again, and now the winners curse on the enigma. What's the Idle Ones in tow?
So DM takes a heap of damage. He's gonna go down again. Noticed.
He is cleaning house this game.
What a monster. Level 13 in this game right now. No one's even level 12.
Does this trigger Idle Ones though? That's a little unfortunate.
But he's already got some early chop armor.
Nine armor harvested by the 16 minute mark.
Oh, no one's trying to make a solo play here.
We get out fast enough.
It's close, he does die to Watson.
So that was actually a bit of a gift there for Yandex too.
Or a bit of a bad spot.
And there's the mantha for the final answer.
So yes, mantha completed plus that gold injection.
Yeah, nice pickup for him.
They're going to need to peel the salvage
a little bit of this game.
This axe is doing work.
Blink Dagger next for DM.
He's got Pestle Charges, so you get this Blink, you can definitely start getting involved
in the game in a big way.
This is the Mjolnir Bear, not attacking, still pushing.
That's so silly.
Decolas is hoping to go Blink for Blink, he's just going to be the answer to the enigma
of the entire game.
Slip down, Sunstrike a little off the mark, but somebody will get the kill, and that's
somebody of Satanic who was halfway to his Agatom Sector, and that's when the bear really
starts ramping up the pressure between his global presence and the invoker and the the
active axe.
You're going to be feeling, you're going to be feeling it if you're a Yandex.
That's where this game can become uncarable for the family, and so if you start just bleeding
out heroes across the map, even if the PL is finding farm. This isn't a hero that won
V5s, in a true sense. He still needs somebody else to make some space in the fight and help
him contribute some damage, at least a little control. Notice on the hunt. He's got the
Sun Strike, he's got the Power Shot, and every call is deadly right now on the map,
so if you can occupy some enemy territory, it feels real good to take away the farm.
Watson here. See Yandex just playing full defense here. Double offensive wards and
double defensive wards basically placed in the same spots here. Hold Yandex and
P-Vision. Trying to defend or attack the PL's farming rotation. Not a hero that's
gonna go do ancients. So you kind of know where Watson wants to stay. They almost
got to him there.
Oh, you're just trying to get to their aggs uncontested and the low druid is
It's very uncontested.
They do have the Amp damage, I'm sure, Junior.
And he finished his blink, so they're going to smoke,
bring Watts again to this play.
They say he's strong enough to join the fight right now.
They've already made the read because they
have this Lotus Ward on the right side of the map
that spotted DM's movement.
Well, they also had this AWP right where they smoked
around this hard camp near the mid tier two.
So heads up AWP placement from 9-class early.
We'll bail them out of this Amp damage timing.
9th class will lead him on a little chase here.
And he may eventually die for it.
Actually tucks himself into the corner
and teepees out successfully.
So it's absolutely nothing to gain for it.
But it's essentially like four heroes all hunting.
That's the risk with making these big plays,
bringing the carry into it.
That basically called you.
It cost you 1,000 network.
As these other cores are just mopping up the map.
That's why it's oftentimes so easy just to be the ones
to sit back and farm, which is where
That notice again, that early blink deck or pick up was so cool because if they don't find that kill right, he starts falling behind 100% misses his timings.
Very few players would go for that play, especially in a stressful game like this.
Noticed.
Did they see the tank?
These campages got farmed.
It's the call to the panko, Sunstrike and calling blade.
Sunstrike is all it takes.
He is on a rampage in this game, 7-1 and 2.
Just making everything happen right now.
And he's probably gotten this invoker actually like thousand plus gold just off of his place, right?
He's gotten the bear another thousand or two thousand with all the space
That's a tanix had a farm because there's no pressure going into him. Ag's is already done here
For the panda now also level 15
So the map pressure is gonna pick up considerably right now
Yeah, now it's no longer the lone druid bear with them. You're on there just pushing out the bottom lane
He's going to take that off lane tower make the map smaller
If you get Satanic this much space, you can farm on all his jungle with the hero, continue to push waves with the bear.
This lead is going to exponentially increase here. You just don't have the same amount of space to keep up.
You needed some more fights going your way with this Pangolier. You needed to maybe get one or two extra kills with Black Hole.
On their side of the map with the enigma, you're losing too much ground right now. This lead is gonna explode.
Idle on spreading out through the map now they need little mobile wards to try and read these rotations to make sure that Watson is still farming
Uncontested which he has been he wasn't the one caught by the axe earlier that was CJ
Jump on a nine class here win run
And make it difficult for them, but ultimately he will die right he'll die
Okay, yeah, just to make sure they got him get a little extra CP, you know
Or value off that kill, but again not a big target. Yeah
I think that's a thing that Key Vision and Hound are consistently been better at, is putting their supports in a position
that they just don't bleed anything from many of these smokes.
Malady spotted on the Lotus by no one.
I see ya.
That's a preview. They didn't even need to pop the smoke on the other two heroes, so they could still look for an act play.
And of course he can go in solo, because you have the global backup of that Sunstrike.
And he's gonna get the call on the Phantom Lancer!
Sunstrike? Not being thrown out!
You didn't have the mana for it.
Well, Gerdt be away.
They have big winners, Gerdt.
They've got enough to stop this one.
No doppelganger to get away.
Another pulling blade.
While the bear is pushing bottom,
it took the off-lane tower.
Now it's taking your ancient stack.
Everything is being ripped away from the index right now.
This is highly robbery.
They've got to get past the bear.
Malifas.
Slowdowns should be more than enough to get that bounty.
It'll be 315 for cheer junior.
That helps.
but it does not rectify these pickoffs.
Have to find a way to regroup on this map.
We're at the point in this game,
past 20 minutes torment, there's all the line roaches there.
You keep bleeding some of these kills,
you're gonna pay a way bigger price
than you have so far in this game.
Oh man.
Okay, so Malady just, they had a ward,
and they saw the wyvern up here in this lotus here.
He placed a sentry saying,
okay, he placed a ward somewhere over here.
They found the old ward.
They didn't find the new one.
So that could be pretty massive if the index,
you know, try and make a move through this area,
try and take a fight on Tormentor.
Let's see if it pays off here.
Feels like they're tormented to take right now.
There's no way you're doing it if you're the index.
Right.
You do have blink black hole available,
and that is a next factor here
on these objective fights.
Rolling Thunder, also pretty good
around like Roche but Tormentor.
Yeah, they definitely wanted to contest.
Malady, he's going to work his way trying to get through the gate.
There's no one.
No one.
No one.
He's going to be caught here at the same time as the Jekiro.
Bigger kill.
Wow, that was a lot for it.
They already had him controlled with the rolling thunder, but they dropped the black hole just to ensure.
It's a thousand gold.
Vitalans will spot the heroes rushing through the gate.
He just do not want to let them get out of here.
9 class, trying to catch him off the shackle shot, does Vangel land it on DM, put a bit too far out initially, but the axe is still gonna flank forward, hit a battle hunger on CJ, slowing him down.
Quickly reprieve there is Swashbuckle, lenses that one off.
Kind of surprised that Key Vision chased through that key. I said it's just like going through a tormentor there or something.
Right, yeah.
Like Black Hole gets dropped through your hooker, okay whatever, we'll do an objective. Maybe you can still do it here now anyway, Black Hole's a long cooldown.
Which could be an issue in this game honestly if you become more and more dependent on that spell the team fight along with rolling thunder if
Your ults are down what happens in the air room?
Especially with the lineup that can do objectives pretty fast push the the waves out pretty quickly
Look at this axe just farming in your face. I already think you'd be done. What are you gonna do to him?
Absolutely nothing not a damn thing
Tornado attempted CJ blinking ahead of it, and he is so close to his agonim scepter
I'm just watching this bear vacuum up the entire bottom half of this map.
He is so massive.
This is the issue. If you can't control this area, he out-forms everybody in the game.
He missed that war two.
500 up on the Phantom Lancer. He has 700 GPM right now.
Socks it. It's going to be spotted by the Vessel Knight class.
Landsat on him and we'll get a charge back.
Oh, some more armor. He's up to 13.5.
a significant amount of bonus armor this early on. And a Roshan that is free for the taking
with no black hole, no tunnel. No way to fight. And this is the issue. Yeah, maybe you have
Federal A-game, maybe you have some clutch PL pick. You're not gonna get there. Because this is
classic P-Vision. Control the waves, find the pick-off, translate it into an objective. They
don't need the 5-on-5. If they're not even looking for the 5-on-5, if they're looking for the one
kill, it leads them into a net worth advantage. This is how you scale in Dota, this is how
you gain a net worth lead. And that net worth lead will translate to that classic like 35
minute high ground. They've done this time and time again. This game, the rush was done
a little later, so maybe that timing gets delayed a little bit. We'll see how strong
Satanic thinks he is. I mean this is a bear that is extremely farmed and you always have
have a lacquerty to throw on top of him. That is a lot of damage. And I always feel like
the sooner you can pressure high ground against a panel answer doesn't mean you have to commit
for that push. But the sooner you force him to join fights wherever that happens, the happier
you are. Sure. Last thing you want to let him do is just be completely uncontested at
AFK farm to this like really tanky point. Yes. He's currently working towards Scotty.
So you take these tier 2's and then all of a sudden when you get that pick off, you can
high ground with it. That's what you're looking to achieve right now because full silver edge done
on the panda as it's running across. This thing's just sprinting. It's like some death machine.
It might just find some death. There's some heroes squirreling out this side of the map.
Validate just dropping macro pyres. They're throwing idle on Sound Lane. Anything they can.
but the hunt is on. B-Vision, we'll find Pick-Offs.
Goodbye. It's just full wrap-up. You look at where these dire dots are on the mini-map.
It's all on the edge of the map. Someone's forming the top edge.
Sox is on the left. The jacquero's on the bottom.
And Nimmy was forming out the right again. Nobody wants to go anywhere near the center here.
You don't have the vision for it. You don't have heroes that can do it safely.
Especially when noticed as off the map he is back on the hunt in his room hacks around this mid-lane scan lands
Spokes is getting many opportunities here like a magic at the call on DM
Don't have a way who socks actually pushing himself in they actually have the black wall and no one took so much damage
But the tackle shot manages to stop a chair junior. He's still trying to finish off
No one here rolls through they've got to deal with the bear Watson was in trouble CJ heard the call and it bumps the bear once
Shackle shot to slow him down, but ultimately it's just the death of DM.
And no one lived.
No one lived, and keeps that Aegis intact.
Almost dying to the Pauling bag on top of some of the Amoeba damage,
but Liz with 15 HP perfectly executed here.
They fed him, he got the Lotus HP as well,
so some of that early Lotus saving pain off and very timely Shackle.
Notice are done for the axe will help protect the bear get rid of the malifists
stop the solar vine get these heroes out of this ice path macro pyre situations
easier look at just so fearless they know they have nothing to worry about
diving well past here twos going into triangles rolling thunder black wall
cool down that's a green light do whatever you want in this game
So this, is he gonna find Chair Junior?
There's a high ground war and Chair Junior's gonna blink out.
Just because that ward, that sanctuary that was placed earlier, didn't find the high ground ward placed by Malady earlier.
And it saved CJ's life.
Let's open another minute on this Aegis.
Not a high ground Aegis, but...
She'll want a confidence to look for anything here.
Trying to find another clutch pick off.
And Network Lead is just growing and growing.
Oh yeah.
He visioned.
And will eventually be presented the opportunity to hit a high ground.
It's like inevitable they will get a core pick off.
So far it's been those support kills.
Last time they got a core.
It's pretty easy Roshan for them.
Right here from D.M. leading off the mouth.
This quick kill on T'Kallus.
But no one hits a really good tornado that leads to the death of D.M.
He's going to get burned out.
Now, no one is still low, but he has his Aegis.
He may die to this Rolling Thunder,
being well-noticed to finish get the initiation on Soxette.
They cleaned up the Aegis.
Is CJ gonna get out, though?
His Rolling Thunder is now gone,
and with notice slowing him down off the battle hunger,
trying to get away from this bear,
slowing him down a bit with the inhibitor
to defuse a play, but eventually, you're gonna be entangled,
and there's the core kill they were looking for.
Leads off a god-like spree for notice.
Fights are too chaotic,
especially if the peel can't stick in the middle of it.
That's your chaos to throw back at them, but until Watson's trying to take an higher fight
The bear is just gonna slowly kill you this axe is gonna find you
But and the bear is also going to when you win that fight quickly kill building. Oh, yeah
Oh, he found the PL a big hill they can get it so then the Scott H. He chokes him
He had the right target is the TPL
With the backup plan stops Watson keep me away and there's no out for him now
Now, the bear will hunt him down.
What a game for notice.
Absolutely showing up in this game three.
Oh, and no one.
A four-staff forward, DM.
So much damage, though.
The four-staff doesn't help him survive.
Just picking the corner.
He dies anyway.
Dysection here.
And P vision tipping.
They're all teammate in DM.
A bit of a mistake there, and it's
going to lead to more openings.
No one's call on socks up.
Another kill.
Just one by one.
You're never going to get this five on one.
It's just into the tier four.
And it's in the team white.
You're going to team white them without any of them
being near the other heroes.
Territory is just going to die here as well.
They've just bled out one hero after another.
And all of a sudden, the base is entirely open for the taking.
This game just looks over.
Satanic is going to take a mid lane of Barracks, go for top, there's still the tier 2 bottom,
and there's probably not enough time to just go straight to tier 4.
It's so much damage though.
Like losing Rax is at this 30 minute mark against this team when there's so much map pressure,
just compounds that issue.
How are you ever going to get out of the map again?
How do you play any of the lanes and not get picked off?
Yeah, the antics better get real comfortable with their base.
And this is going to be their home for the future, and they're just going to be locked
inside here.
And this is how you punish some of these really hard carries that just can't come online
fast enough to exert their own presence in the game.
You just start picking people off the map collapses, they don't have a lot of places
to farm, you get that one clutch fine, and the game just breaks open.
And you never get to hit your timing on this band of mine, sir, as he tries to work towards
the Scotty.
And what carry is better for this, right?
I mean, I'll be very excited about that.
No doubt it should be because they are just one pick off, one fight away from closing
out a series and going to the grand finals.
They can chill out, wait for Aegis, Yandex will see whether desperation bites at them
enough to go for a smokeout play into that Roshan, or they're just going to wager on
a high ground hold.
I think you have to go.
You do have your item timing, like you have Axe, Pango, BKB, Enigma, and the Scotty is
done on Walsing.
So that's another reason you kind of have to go, because you're not going to get close to another round of items before that basebush comes in.
This is as good as it gets, you're going to need some big ultimates to land.
You're going to have to try and bait a clump out from P-Vision.
The initial smoke isn't going to find anything here.
It will get them into a position to take back some of this mid lane and bottom lane, get wards on their triangle.
But ultimately, time is kind of against them here as P-Vision.
You just wait things out, wait for a better opportunity, some sort of pick.
The lanes are just going on in three minutes.
You have to deal with top because you lost Varix here. They're pinging.
Watch it up here. They saw him throw the lanes. Notice.
They see the real one running backwards. They get the call onto him. Here comes that cataclysm.
It's coming in hot. Watch it. He does pass the doppelganger. What a meant to dodge.
Gets away from it all. Very dangerous. All of Yandex keeping back to bail out there.
See if there's a punish available here. Tank notice with the Magro Pire.
No way. CJ is already gone as the bear is going to just kill them all, man.
They could do nothing about this BKB bear.
He is chopping fools out here. All that time in the jungle has led to an insane item timing for Satanic here.
And the best part is Satanic is hero doesn't even need to be here.
He's just been farming up the triangle the entire time.
Very slowly, but it's getting the job done, getting the extra farm for them.
It is racked up to almost 30,000 network lead for P vision.
Yandex on their last legs here.
They will have to find something miraculous in the next team fight.
And if the enigma gets jumped, I think that goes out the window.
And so we can really have to watch.
Even if the high grind without the DK,
He is already taking the tier three satanic keeping the pressure up on them saying are you gonna deal with this bear?
Are you gonna kill it that the reward for killing the bear is not terribly high because he's just gonna make the resummit and the
Risk is well. We saw people are all set up behind that bear. I just go wait for the rush on
Clear an a just on one of these guys you send it up the hill with a man damaged
I mean, it's just gonna be a disgusting amount of strength. They want to go for another one with this
Look for a pick-off.
Yeah, first of all, in pressure.
Here comes that Silverage bear.
They send it in bottom.
He's looking like the one camp they can farm.
He's like, I know you're here.
I'm gonna take your camp anyway.
Oh, Malady just saw his life flash before his eyes.
As if he was on that camp, he would have been the one to die, but they had to add damage instead of the neutral creeps.
The disgusting part is if you guys really want to slow play this, they can't.
You have to end this bear, you have the invoker with all his rat action.
Yeah, just keep throwing things at them, they just throw on these units off the bottom lane.
You have the other two lanes.
And what are they going to do?
You can never do Roshan until you see them all in base, then you do Roshan.
Gotta get an accent for the bear to have a true six-lots.
And roaches up.
And the enemies are not in a position to be able to contest.
We're never going to be in a position to contest this.
You just have to play for the base defense.
See how fast this bear chops it down? Pretty damn fast here.
Keep it to no one again.
Just make that team fight even.
Got the call on DM, the Cataclysm, and a call in play to finish him off.
Not even...
That was made way too easy.
Socks up, being hunted down on the other side of the map.
Now you can get an easy buyback at the very start of this age.
Bear's still trying to hunt down, say, Tan, or Socks up, rather.
That's a high ground, gets a teepee away.
the way the bear is not going to be close enough to hit a roar.
They can fire at us right now.
Acepax is almost dead just purely off.
Ford Spirit, in fact, is dead.
Double seeded wagon.
Ford Spirit's...
Yeah, Dex.
You need your hammer.
Look up there.
Do I have the rolling thunder?
That's what's going on right now.
The building's...
It's going to die fast.
They hit it with the icepack.
Now the rolling thunder comes in.
Trying to kill this bear.
But they've got to be careful of the counter initiation.
Well, the brace comes in.
There's the call on two.
It both supports a beautiful initiation.
She action once already dead CJ jumps after no one reminder. He's got the ages soxa still live notice trying to
Yeah black hole on a bear just trying to stop it in the bigger surprise that kills the M anyway
Watson is doing work right now. He's managed to kill one got notice down the buyback
Could have used a power shot to hunt down soxa Watson on his second life though
The lift gets pumped the building's all said killed the bear one time. What about the second bear though?
It's gonna be coming back soon notice on a second life and it's good to call him to see
He's getting lower and lower, and it's get the coolant button, that's the chop, he's down, another buyback, gonna be forced out meanwhile.
He's got Watson trying to finish off these heroes, but they're shooting too many lives, the mega creeps are gonna be here, Nicole the Brace has bailed it out, and Watson, a final call to finish things off.
Life one, gone for it, GG, it's called, they don't even try for the buyback, it's pay vision, going to the grand finals.
They are looking like the scaring team here. This is their toughest opponent yet, and in games 1 and 3, they just dominated.
Again, the 30 to 40 minute period. If they get the map control they're looking for with these lineups, I have not seen anybody who can survive it.
And what a game I noticed. This is the guy they brought in for this season to make some big plays from that offlaner spot.
playing against one of their old offlaners and he makes a statement in this game with an insane
axe performance 12-2 and 14 just dominated from that lane getting mega fat that blink purchase
into the triple kill felt like you were already in a very solid position after that yeah you shut
down the evoker a little bit with this pangal kick but then he gets trapped in the game because
he's the sun striking every axe kill free assist goal free assist goal i mean he really just put
this game on his back and just it's easy pickings for satanic at that point because he has so much
time to farm on a hero that is always gonna out farm your opponent. There's
never look at insane map control from the team. Somebody, the layers is only one
team left that can challenge it and that's BB in the finals. They have to
find a way to break the lane control, the pick off potential, and the discipline
around these objectives. That is you're gonna be your challenge because it's
not easy. Especially in a grand final situation where the pressure is so high
the lights are so bright. Having this team run at you again. The way that
Notice picked up that early blink dagger the decision-making that was at there. I mean, that's a that's a move you're making without beer
That puts the enemy team under a lot of pressure when it hits and it hit hard in this game at three
The other decks have been incredibly good. I mean, they've just been monsters all year round
So many top three performances from them again nine different top threes this year
Can't hide it here
Just insane jumps. I also profit to calls
He had some sick curses in that game where this is not necessarily the easiest game to find curses on.
He even hit the real PL here at the end.
Oh yeah, that's...
Okay, sure.
You're just in zone.
He had a very nice Wyvern game.
This hero can sometimes be a liability against a lot of these chaotic teamfight liners.
So, man, he put work in.
We're going to see P-Vision in the grand finals against PB Team.
And let's see how prepared they are.
Thank you very much, my friends.
And we are here with P-Vision's Satanic,
Victorious and moving on to the grand final here in Paris good to have you here
Obviously this series against Yandas went to game three. Game one was a watch over. What happened there? I think we just
All three games much better draft I think
All three of them including in game two, but there was the monkey king out there. Were you surprised when you spawned?
Hmm not really. We just
I expected it, but I think we just played... I fucked up that game, I think, mostly.
Was it more, hey, things were going well in the lane, but it got so deep that we couldn't really play around the Monkey King?
I would say it was a super free game. I just went on edge and lost edges.
We should have made big hits and win this game, but even like this we made comeback in the game
the game because they gave us the kill itself and then the cracks us but then in late super
late game like last fight I just blinked in and died like idiot you know it happens here.
It happens even to the best out there now game three there was the first pick the invoker
was that a reaction to the result of game two was it more of a comfort pick was it just
playing around draft well is it.
I mean Puppey just saw park one and he said okay I'll go in with you.
You gotta trust your teammates after all of this and look everybody's been picking low
at this point, is this kind of a way to win? What do you do tomorrow when you play BB team and they pick Glounderwood?
I think it's fine here, but it's not of the team. I think for us like Shadowfiend or Drow is better still, so they ban it.
I don't think it's like Superimba, so Yandex knew it as well and they didn't really pick it because we were winning it in Glounders as well
and we know how to deal with it, so it's not really that big of a deal, I think.
Fair enough.
A lot of people calling this game between Pivision and Yandex as kind of a prelude to the grand final.
Might as well be a grand final in the semis.
Do you think this game will be tougher than the grand final tomorrow against BBT?
I think Yandex was anyway the toughest opponent for us.
But we'll see tomorrow.
Well, speaking of tomorrow, yesterday, when we talked about your victory,
you're saying, hey, final message to Yandex will crush you tomorrow.
ended up happening. Look at this camera right here in front of us.
You got BB team on the other side. What do you want to say to them before the fight?
We're coming for you guys. They're coming for you. That's satanic. That's P vision.
And of course that means that you get to crush Yandex's key. So please come on over no one get
everybody up in here. You think you're going to crush it this time around or are you going to give
it to someone else? I'll give it for not just for sure. Oh, there's the team play. All right,
Then we're all together. Let's walk on up to a crusher.
You're used to it at this point. There's only one more time left.
That'll be tomorrow. Big, big moment and day for P-Vision.
We'll remind you, last year, they only made it to third place here.
They're already in the grand final. And notice is the one to do the crushing.
Look at what Anzay Tadic giving the blessing for this one.
There's the throw. He's so strong, he pulled it off!
my god should see even the drafts there it is going deeper and deeper there's yandex and then
they are crushed to bits every single piece gone p vision mixture yandex our history
one more time ladies and gentlemen your second grand finalist p vision
There's our Dave Dom, let's break it all down, panel, all yours.
I must say that crushing felt different, that hit hard and this game three hit even harder.
This was not a close game.
We had the first two games of this best of three series, you know, methodical, back and
forth, cool, first one maybe a little bit more dominant, but this one, because this
This one was not closed at all.
Ah, it really wasn't.
But you can tell, like, the way they played.
Like, they tried, they tried this PL-24, it didn't work out for them.
It looked like a very good overall pick, but P-Vision, they said,
you know what, we're gonna put it into the next year.
Like, this is gonna be, like, full speed, kind of turbo mode that they managed to pull off in this game.
And I think they came very well prepared.
Something they talked about in the interviews was also that Puppy, he's doing all the drafts.
the drafts, they put quite a lot of trust into Puppy. We don't know anything, you know,
he's gonna do it, we just picked the heroes and they're clicking pretty well because
everything is working but you can definitely feel some Puppy magic behind it and quite
a lot of, you know, if we see what happened, like they let him pick Laundroid because they
feel very confident about the Laundroid getting through, they beat it four times and then they
knew that Enigma's gonna come so they preemptively pick Wyvern and they crush him in the lane
as well. Yeah, I mean, that was just a master class and notice crush that key as violently
as he crushed the index in this game. I mean, that was all acts to me. The draft was beautiful.
The preparation was beautiful, but he just popped off on this acts from the landing stage
to getting the kills to getting these multiple hero calls to setting up sun strikes for his
invoker. He was the story of this game for me. Yeah, he crushes a former team with that as well.
Of course, both these teams, they swapped off laners mid-season, basically, and it is
P-Vision that takes the crown in this series.
We'll see if they take the crown tomorrow against BB as well.
But this was definitely such a strong showing from this squad.
They're just looking like raid boss shades.
Yes, they really are.
I love the overall, not the overall last one, but their last pick of win ranger as well.
It's not your typical nine-class hero, I feel like, because I've seen him on it, but it worked out so well.
It did. It looked like, you know, the pick that's not going to be doing any crazy stuff,
but again, he did pull off some really big shackles.
He was playing with Axe when he needed to.
He allowed Axe to get the insane amount of farm in the laning stage.
And to Carlos as well, he really, really stepped it up in this one, like playing out of his mind.
some really nice nurses coming out, finding the real PL in the end, clutching it with
the heels as well.
Just his positioning was stopped there.
This is the dude that has been grinding for a really long time and with this team, he
gets to shine.
Yeah, he said, we haven't really been tested before the series.
We saw him say that we feel like we haven't really been tested, but maybe we're just
good.
I think it's the latter at this point.
Maybe they're just good.
That's something to call us.
So, you know, should be realizing right about that, that's for sure.
I believe also you've chosen some points in this game, Lacoste,
did you'd like to highlight for us?
Yeah, I really like the way that they played around Axe,
because he was on top of the network,
he was the one that was causing quite a lot of issues for the enemy team,
and this is relatively early on in the game.
This is 12 minutes, if you look at his items,
Facebook, Ring of Health, and the casual armor item,
because he is landing against PL,
and he finds one of the best calls that he could find.
Like, I don't think it can get better than this at the start.
And you can see others also immediately playing with him.
Again, a very good curse coming up from the college.
They're going to get another shot for notice.
And then you see nine-class coming up
from a different angle, understanding
exactly where Malady is going to come from,
which is going to be extra bit of an armor, extra bit of a gold
coming into his pocket.
And he's going to be snowballing that whole game.
And there's going to be another one where he jumps over him.
Another smoke.
You can see that nine-class, again, is playing with him.
Shackle that he kind of read where he's gonna go immediately gets him and again the trio
A lot of the time you see Invoker playing with the two supports this time of his axe because they have a bad global presence
With the Sun strike on top of that and getting another kill and Igma
He got ruined in the lane and he got through and throughout the whole game because he was unable to play against this winter
Wabern who had his number
Yeah, and if an axe is that dominant early on in the game then this idea that you have with peel as the indexus
isn't effective because you think it's fine to pick PL versus axe because the landing stage is good
you lose the leading stage you're giving away kills and all of a sudden this axe is much stronger
than he should be early on and he sets up for every hero on his team in that sense and enigma
who's playing on the back foot can't really make the same kind of plays if you're comparing him to axe
an infinite scaling coats of blood coming in noticed way with that axe as well a lot of dunks
done by him for this one and we had to give it to noticed.
It was a little bit point of the bait because if it was a 2-0 maybe it would have gone for a different one
but no this was definitely MVP noticed for this series I think.
Yeah absolutely his gameplay definitely wasn't unnoticed by production enough so we gave him MVP
because in that first game he really nailed it.
They gave him I would say in this one they gave him quite a lot of priority last picking his hero overall.
In the previous one, they gave him a little bit of priority as well, picking Axe on 18.
But he kind of nailed it, really loved the itemization in the first game, picking up Road of Aethos into Agadamn Scepter,
having that extra bit of a catch that was definitely needed.
And again, just the whole squad is on the same page.
And this guy has been crushing at this tournament.
My MVP, if I get to choose, because he was all over the place.
Like every single game I see him own.
There was one point of the tournament during the group stage where his KDA was like 30 or something
and he was sitting at the 0.6 deaths average per game. It did go up, but still less than 2 at the moment.
It just feels like he makes whatever you give him work and that is such an asset to have in your off-laner.
Like, he can play Aura's if you need him to, he can carry the game if you need him to.
And because his hero pool is so big, whatever support that mineclaws one, so you can kind of go for it.
Even though he's been playing a little bit more traditionally this tournament,
but if you compare it to DMs here at Pool of this tournament, it was much smaller.
Everyone's also speaking of 9-class, he gets to play in the grand finals tomorrow on his birthday.
That's also kind of special and cool. We'll see if he gets the ultimate birthday present,
but taking the victory there. Of course, when there is victory on one side,
there must also be losers on the other side. We are going to see Yandex again tomorrow in the
third-fourth place decider against VT Gaming, but we're also going to get some final words from
Shira Junior. Hey, I'm here with Shira Junior of Yandex. You just lost your series. How are you
feeling right now? Can you expand on that at all? I'm sure Game 3 was really tough. It's very one-sided.
First two games were very good. They were close. I mean, I think every game was one-sided. Maybe
Maybe because of heroes, maybe we played bad, but it was hard to play map, I guess, because
of the agents' split pushing, Hashadow pushing.
It's pretty much it.
What did game 3 feel like?
Student Laney's stage was great.
You were way ahead.
You had deny is equal to his last hits, kind of a thing, and then just the axe destroyed
the map.
Yeah, not really on the Axe, we didn't pressure them enough on it, so we didn't speed up our game, unless we had chances if the game was even, but not like this.
Did you need to get kills on Invoker, then kill Maid or something?
Yeah, just pressure.
Gotcha. That must be very tough. You guys played a lot of really good matches at this tournament as a whole.
as a whole, you're a fantastic team.
You've got third place decider up tomorrow.
I know that's a lot to think about until then,
but how do you think you'll fare?
Yeah, that makes sense.
All right, well, thank you for joining me.
Sorry you lost, but good luck in your matches tomorrow.
Thank you.
It's hard breaking.
This is a team that was expecting to be in those grand finals.
And for many people, they were the team that would take those grand finals.
So a lot to process here for Yandex and Shearer Jr.
Indeed, and we will see them tomorrow in those third, fourth place.
Decider, we can take a look at how our bracket is doing,
because we are coming very close to crowning ourselves a champion.
As we have set up our final two series of the day, we've got our finals.
We got our third place match.
And today, we had two bangers of a semi-finals, Effie.
We really did, and I can imagine tomorrow is going to be a bit nerve-wracking for any team that goes against P-Vision after they're showing today.
They just looked ridiculously tough.
P-V team are very strong, and I believe that they're going to be able to put up a show.
But right now, the way that I perceive P-Vision, they're just significantly better than everybody else.
Yeah, they look like on a different level.
Baby, I think they're gonna be screwing up nicely against them because of how strong this team is early on like you like all their drafts
They always look good something that we've seen with the vision. I think two of these teams had
had so far the best drafting at EWC and
It's gonna come down to like who can speed things up and if we're talking about speed baby team
They can play very very fast as well
Yeah for the people that paid proper attention to the schedule just now Yula would have noticed that we start an hour earlier tomorrow
So keep that in mind.
We also will not start the Grand Finals before 3.30.
So if you have any urgent errands,
you can, you know, you can rest assured that 3.30 is the earliest
the Grand Finals will be able to start.
And that's, of course, our Grand Finals.
And in the meantime, there has already been Grand Finals today,
not on Dota 2, though.
We've had Free Fire End in an emotional victory record breaking game
against Gun Dynasty Lion 1.
And they are the first non-South East Asian team to take a victory here for the Esports World Cup.
Truly a great achievement.
And they were allowed to place their key on the totem in their ceremony.
But they are not the only team crowned champions today.
We also had in MWI Vitality be the champion here in back-to-back victories.
incredibly important for Team Vitality because this is also given them that win that they need to have if they want to do well in the club championship.
Thousand points on the board, we'll see where Vitality takes that one and Vitality was able to beat Navi in those grand finals.
So congratulations to them as well.
Now if you think you know who's going to take tomorrow's series, you can have a shot at it.
You can go to esportsworldcop.com.com and get your prediction in.
There's also tons of quests and activities to do on that site, so make sure to check that out.
But maybe you've already put in your votes and you voted wrong today.
That's very unfortunate for you.
I think Kara today was very cool.
I think maybe LaCrosse, we were expecting a little bit more of a back and forth in
VV vs Vici this morning.
Yeah, especially with the way Vici played, like the way they came here,
kind of being in the middle of the group and then eliminating one dub but then
eliminating one more team as well it just felt like they powered up especially yesterday
but today it seems like they kind of got figured out because they played so many matches there
was a lot of information what they did the tiktok also like the heroes maybe the other teams also
watched some of these tiktoks and reels and got ideas what to build against them because
It was very effective and so far we only had one series shiver that was 2-1 in the playoffs
Which is a bit of a surprising one considering like the competition or maybe it comes down to
teams being kind of equally
Matched in this one because you make a mistake the teams are at so high level that they're going to punish it
Yeah, the teams were definitely evenly matched in our second semi-final set. Anyway, I mean it's a shame to not have it be repeated
tomorrow, but I do think that we are gonna get a very summerly-notched skill level, I would hope,
in the grand finals tomorrow. And AB Team are a team that you can never write off, even if they
don't look like the strongest in the tournament and just look like, you know, a second third-place
team, sometimes on that day they can wake up and just prove everyone wrong. Well, thank you so
much both of you for your thoughts today. That was it from us, from today. Our semi-finals are
done. We know our two finalists, we know who's going for the third fourth place
tomorrow. So two series coming your way tomorrow an hour earlier than today.
Looking forward to that one already, but we will not leave you empty-handed. Of
course we'll see you tomorrow, but for now enjoy the STC recap of the day.