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RERUN: Dota 2 at EWC 26 - Day 11 - Playoffs

07-18-2026 · 7h 05m

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[00:00:00] Main here in the tournament at the end of the day.
[00:00:03] Everybody will move to tomorrow, I know.
[00:00:05] But two will be in the grand finals
[00:00:07] and two will be in the third place.
[00:00:08] The sider here to talk all about it is Sev and VSJ.
[00:00:11] Good morning, VSJ, how are you doing?
[00:00:13] I'm great, she's, I'm super excited to watch
[00:00:14] both the teams that we're about to see.
[00:00:16] Both series are gonna be great,
[00:00:17] but the next two teams there,
[00:00:18] they've been really leveling up
[00:00:19] throughout the course of this tournament
[00:00:20] and it's really cool to just see the evolution of the meta
[00:00:24] and how these teams have taken their own interpretation of
[00:00:26] and I think there's a reason that they're here.
[00:00:28] How you doing, Sev?
[00:00:29] I'm great. This is like the top four ready to battle it out.
[00:00:33] You know, the funny part is that I don't think anyone would have had that top four.
[00:00:36] You know, how we used to have these predictions in the battle pass and whatnot.
[00:00:39] Well, what would the percentage be if people had to actually guess the top four?
[00:00:43] There'd be a couple of Chinese fans, I think that I mean, hopeful.
[00:00:46] They probably had extreme gaming in it then, too.
[00:00:48] Even TV is like, yeah, you don't have extreme.
[00:00:50] You know, you don't have 1W, you don't have Falcons.
[00:00:52] Honestly, I'd give it below one percent, like predictability.
[00:00:56] There might be like two people left that have predicted it's correct.
[00:00:59] Even though they might have mislicked or something, you know, so this is to me
[00:01:03] This is one daughter is the most exciting is when you have the storylines as purge mentioned in the opening of the show
[00:01:08] Or it's like yeah, you kind of want to see it happen at the same time
[00:01:11] I'd be super happy for BV if they made it to because this is a team that's also looking for success
[00:01:16] Anyway, super excited for today super excited for today and we were already excited yesterday
[00:01:21] We take a look at our STC rewind because the two teams that are the underdogs coming into the semi-finals
[00:01:27] They qualified for the semi-finals yesterday and when we were talking about underdogs
[00:01:31] You might be thinking like oh, then they must have barely scraped by no
[00:01:34] The two series in the quarterfinals that we watched yesterday said we're so convincing for both teams
[00:01:41] I don't think you can call them underdogs anymore because they literally I mean they stomp Falcons
[00:01:45] Like maybe game one was like a little bit close and it was contested game two was just straight-out domination from ditchy gaming
[00:01:52] So, you know, that's what we were saying when the tournament started.
[00:01:56] It's like, when these big tournaments, they come around, everything is reset, like everything is reset.
[00:02:02] No, it doesn't matter what happened throughout the season.
[00:02:04] It doesn't happen what happened.
[00:02:05] It doesn't matter what happened last month, last week.
[00:02:07] You want to be looking at what is happening, you know, like day after day, what happened last series.
[00:02:13] This is the only thing that matters.
[00:02:14] Even the group stage I'm not even looking at anymore.
[00:02:16] Right now, Vici Gaming is looking like one of the hottest team in this tournament.
[00:02:20] And I think they come in today as favorites, as far as I'm concerned, because what they showed yesterday was just incredible.
[00:02:27] Yeah, they have the confidence factor. I think, you know, when they picked that last pick Slark yesterday, that's the,
[00:02:32] are my a crazy person, or am I a genius, like, that you're teetering that line very carefully.
[00:02:37] And the fact that they answered in the interview afterwards that it was actually ZinQ, who's like,
[00:02:41] oh, I have Connell to give you mana. This is like a team thing, believing as like this pick can work.
[00:02:45] XM's the type of mid player that likes to really ruin the game for the guy that he's playing in.
[00:02:49] We usually see him playing like the Fipers and the Snipers, but seeing him do it on a hero that hasn't been picked all tournament in such a high stakes game, that's amazing to see.
[00:02:58] Yeah, we saw them eliminate Turtles in favourites, Falcons, and we had another favourite team getting eliminated.
[00:03:05] In the series after that, BB Team eliminated Nigma Galaxy that was so hot in the group stages and they made it look easy.
[00:03:13] Yeah, the reality check for Nigma, I think maybe it's fair to say that I don't think they showed the best version of themselves yesterday, maybe the break that hurt them, also maybe the lack of recent experience anyway in these like in the biggest stages and the biggest tournaments where you also have to manage your time properly, your effort properly, you know, because it's a big deal, you know, playing a very intense group stage sequence and then having to rest for four or five days just getting to watch.
[00:03:41] You know, yesterday, Vici Gaming, they said our hands are red hot,
[00:03:44] where their hands are cold, so they don't stand a chance.
[00:03:47] I mean, there's a lot of truth to it.
[00:03:48] And I think yesterday, BV came more prepared.
[00:03:52] They just played harder.
[00:03:54] Basically, I think they might go out a little bit of guard
[00:03:56] and you don't have that luxury here.
[00:04:00] Everything is single limb.
[00:04:01] So if you're starting a little bit slow,
[00:04:03] all of a sudden you lose first map,
[00:04:05] you get pressured heavily because your tournament life is on the line.
[00:04:08] And next thing you know, you're going home.
[00:04:10] I felt like strategically BB team. Yeah, you said they were they were what better prepared
[00:04:14] I think they were just a step ahead strategically with like picking shadow shaman a very uncommon four position right now as a preemptive pick
[00:04:21] To the puck that's been very popular in the mid lane
[00:04:23] It just feels like these teams like BB when they come prepared with these niche picks that like say he's a grandmaster to your shadow shaman
[00:04:30] They're kind of like pulling it out of deep of deep pockets deep in the back reaching in there and saying how you know
[00:04:34] What form of meta can we use to address the current meta?
[00:04:37] And they're just enabling their players and then their execution.
[00:04:40] We've seen Naga Siren be picked in two perfect games already this event and not one.
[00:04:45] And by Kiritich had over a thousand GPM.
[00:04:48] That was just a beautiful execution from the team.
[00:04:51] The whole draft is not only counterpicks but cohesive with the Marana and the net setup from Naga.
[00:04:56] Just everything firing on all cylinders.
[00:04:57] Yeah, and basically all our quarterfinals were all 2-0.
[00:05:01] So all these four teams that you'll see in the semi-finals, well deserved and definitely proved that they were the better team in their quarterfinals.
[00:05:09] We're going to look for some finalists today, though, as this is our schedule coming your way.
[00:05:14] Any series in particular, Ryan? I mean, they're both bangers in their own right.
[00:05:19] I think they are both bangers, and I think for very different reasons.
[00:05:23] We talked about these two teams, BB Team and Vici leveling up at the right time.
[00:05:26] at the right time, while on the other hand,
[00:05:27] Yandex and Pivision have just looked like the best teams,
[00:05:29] at least in my opinion, from the very get-go,
[00:05:31] and some of the teams that look like that
[00:05:34] are not here anymore, so these guys have been
[00:05:35] the most consistent of all, and most dominant as well.
[00:05:38] Yeah, and if you guys at home think you know
[00:05:41] who's going to win in today's semi-finals,
[00:05:44] make sure you head over to esportsworldcup.com,
[00:05:47] slash play to get your pick-ums in,
[00:05:49] and there's tons more action on the site as well,
[00:05:52] quests, for example, that you can complete there as well.
[00:05:56] It's going to be a little bit of a gamble, though,
[00:05:58] because anything can happen here on the stage today.
[00:06:02] We have two beautiful series,
[00:06:04] and I know that the second series of the day with the Annex and P-Vision,
[00:06:07] those are and have been the tournament favourites
[00:06:09] coming into the whole event before our Sony story of the day.
[00:06:15] We went for the other one.
[00:06:17] We went for BB Team versus BG Gaming.
[00:06:20] They both look like those teams!
[00:06:22] Except they're late bloomers!
[00:06:24] Yes, they are. And again, this is what matters.
[00:06:26] Like, you have to peek at the right time.
[00:06:28] I know I sound like a broken record,
[00:06:30] but this is what I had to tell my teams
[00:06:32] when I was competing, what I had to remind myself.
[00:06:34] Every day, it's like, it doesn't matter.
[00:06:36] Like, you don't start...
[00:06:38] You know, we have this...
[00:06:40] The rabbit in the turtle is like a famous French...
[00:06:44] Fable or whatever.
[00:06:46] Where it's like, it doesn't...
[00:06:48] At the end of the day, the turtle finishes the race, and this is what matters, because
[00:06:51] if you start too quick and you're too speedy, you get, you burn out, you get exhausted,
[00:06:55] you get tired, and what matters is, did you cross the finish line?
[00:06:58] And at this point, yeah, maybe, you know, Yandex, P-Vision, there must be some sort of fatigue,
[00:07:03] perhaps, because they have been on top of the game for the entire season, and again,
[00:07:08] when you dominate the Dota scene, everybody's looking at you.
[00:07:11] You have to reinvent yourself constantly, you have to figure things out, get one step
[00:07:14] ahead, you know.
[00:07:15] And it takes a lot of effort and on BVT and Vici Gaming, a little bit more under the radar,
[00:07:20] less pressure, especially for Vici Gaming.
[00:07:23] And I'm just a David vs. Goliath, I'm always on the weaker side of things.
[00:07:28] I think the other side of the bracket.
[00:07:29] Everybody loves the underdog.
[00:07:30] Exactly.
[00:07:31] And there's some beef also between both sides of the brackets, because every time we get
[00:07:34] an interview from the bottom side of it, they're like, yeah, whoever wins this year will just
[00:07:39] win the whole tournament.
[00:07:40] It's like the other teams aren't even here, so at some point just show them, show them
[00:07:45] was the boss here yeah going after your fable it's like when you when you fall
[00:07:49] behind early there's a lot of different ways to respond to that and VG gaming
[00:07:53] when they played the group stage they played against Team Spirit as well as
[00:07:56] pVision and those games were not close like they looked like completely out of
[00:08:00] their element they were a team that I had high hopes for coming into the
[00:08:04] tournament I did lose faith in after watching them in the group stage but
[00:08:07] when they fell behind early they did not give up they had the mindset to come
[00:08:11] back come up with creative ideas in the meantime and so how you rally back I
[00:08:15] I think says so much about that because you can easily fall behind and just think there's no way I'm catching this guy
[00:08:20] He's way faster than me. Yeah, we're gonna focus our attention on BB team first
[00:08:24] This is a team that even though late bloomers this tournament. They have been steadily doing well
[00:08:29] Whole year round took one title as well a lot of top four placements including last year
[00:08:34] But they've never really been able to properly
[00:08:37] dominantly reach that number one state stage when it really matters and
[00:08:42] And I know they're hungry for it, and I'm sure they're going to show some of that hunger and upcoming series.
[00:08:48] And one of the amount of the matches that we always look at when we look at BB Team is save the best position for according to many.
[00:08:54] And I'm going to find out, so are you, how he feels before this match.
[00:09:00] Hello, I'm here with save from BB Team.
[00:09:02] You guys knocked out LGD, you knocked out Nigma.
[00:09:05] Both series looked pretty easy from your guys' perspective. Is that how it felt playing those matches?
[00:09:09] I wouldn't say so actually, I think the first map against LGD and the second against NGMA were not easy, but yeah, I think we're feeling quite confident.
[00:09:18] Okay, is it like a preparation thing? You just knew what you're going to do going into the matches?
[00:09:23] I think maybe we just played better than those two teams.
[00:09:26] Okay, in game, sorry, the second game you guys picked, sorry, your first game, you picked Naga. It looked like a perfect Nog game. Did that just come up organically and you thought of it, or was it something you kind of like led them into?
[00:09:38] I mean, we knew that it can be an answer for Lycan, and Karedish is playing very good Naga, so we'll just pick it.
[00:09:45] Yeah, it felt really good. Very easy game for him. What's your take on VTGaming this tournament?
[00:09:50] Obviously, you're watching your opponents, you're seeing their previous matches.
[00:09:54] Would you say that there's some kind of pattern that you guys have figured out?
[00:09:58] It feels like they're playing good from behind, so we'll see.
[00:10:02] I guess it's all about how we're going to get early advantage and end the game,
[00:10:09] because they're kind of good at sitting at the high ground or something like this.
[00:10:13] So we'll see.
[00:10:14] So what's your overall confidence level for this series?
[00:10:17] I mean, I'm very confident.
[00:10:19] That's good. Happy to hear that.
[00:10:20] All right, well, thank you for joining me.
[00:10:21] Man, good luck in your matches.
[00:10:22] Thank you.
[00:10:24] A very confident save here for the upcoming semifinals.
[00:10:28] How do you feel about that confidence, Brian?
[00:10:30] Is it well placed?
[00:10:31] I think it's well placed for both these teams to have confidence.
[00:10:34] I think for all the reasons we've been saying,
[00:10:35] they both have reasons to believe that they're going to win this series.
[00:10:38] And I think for BB team, like based on that interview,
[00:10:42] as well as Kataomi yesterday, it seems like they're just they get straight to business.
[00:10:46] They know exactly what they need to do to prepare for each game.
[00:10:48] They don't take any opponent lightly.
[00:10:50] I don't think they're distressed. They're not going to distrust.
[00:10:51] I mean, maybe GPK did in his interview yesterday, but that's just GPK.
[00:10:55] I think you have quite a balance of personalities within this team,
[00:10:58] and I think they have that nice leveling out of,
[00:11:00] okay, let's keep our cool.
[00:11:01] And I think that having these calm forces that they've added over the years with Miro
[00:11:05] and Kiritich have really made them the team that no longer crumbles
[00:11:08] in like the third to fourth place area of the tournament.
[00:11:11] And I think when you hear the interviews and you hear also players being sometimes a little bit,
[00:11:15] I mean, it wasn't the case for Save Hero, but being a little bit like,
[00:11:18] you know, they provoke or just keep in mind
[00:11:21] that they know that the other team is watching and they're listening because you know they're
[00:11:25] sitting backstage in the you know in the preparation room just waiting to be called on the stage and
[00:11:30] whatnot and they're listening to the broadcast they're listening to us actually especially before
[00:11:33] the game starts because they have nothing else to do. We see such smart things that's why they're listening to them.
[00:11:38] They pay much more attention to what the other teams players are saying so if you can get in their
[00:11:42] heads a little bit if you can tell them that you feel like you're pretty confident and it's gonna
[00:11:46] be a pretty smooth thing it kind of depends you know what what do you want them to hear what do
[00:11:49] do you want them to know before you have split them?
[00:11:51] I think for both teams it is well said, Brian, that you're saying they do not underestimate
[00:11:57] their opponents. They are very much not necessarily like too much too selfish, but they are very
[00:12:02] much at both teams that focus mainly on themselves and how they come into a series rather than
[00:12:08] what they think the other team will do.
[00:12:10] Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think what Sage said, BB team has always been a team that
[00:12:14] relies on, not relies, but reliably gets off to an early lead out of the waning stage
[00:12:18] and he even gave respect to VG gaming and their ability to stall out a game, come back,
[00:12:23] and in other words, basically, he knows the story that he thinks he's going to see.
[00:12:26] He has set expectations for himself that it's not going to be easy,
[00:12:29] even if they have that favorable start.
[00:12:31] And I think at the end of the day, setting accurate expectations is a skill,
[00:12:35] and I think these top tier players are very good at it.
[00:12:38] Yep, they are very good at that.
[00:12:40] We're focusing our attention on the challengers here with VG gaming, making it top four already.
[00:12:45] This is a squat that many would love to see go all the way
[00:12:49] It has been quite a while since we've seen a Chinese team on the podium
[00:12:55] Can VG gaming do it and break the trend that has been happening? A lot of people are hopeful for that
[00:13:00] Let's find out how they are doing going into this best of three elimination series has been here from shiro
[00:13:08] Hello, I'm here shiro of VG gaming
[00:13:10] Sure, I would say that you guys are the fan favorite to the tournament now that you've had two upsets
[00:13:14] I was wondering how it felt yesterday to win your series.
[00:13:17] Xiu, welcome to our third game of the year.
[00:13:20] You are now a team that is considered the most beloved of the audience and fans.
[00:13:24] How do you feel after winning the match against Fa'Lao yesterday?
[00:13:30] Everyone is very happy. I'm looking forward to today's game.
[00:13:34] Everyone was super happy about it, and we are all looking forward to our match today.
[00:13:38] That's awesome. You did play a Spectre yesterday in game one.
[00:13:41] You bought Agatham Scepter.
[00:13:42] I was surprised about the item, because I haven't seen other people buy it, so I was curious why you bought it, what did you like about it?
[00:13:48] In the last game, you picked a ghost, and you used this equipment in the A-Style.
[00:13:52] We knew that you rarely saw it in the A-Style. Can you tell us about the way you were in the game?
[00:13:59] Well, there are few ghosts in the game, but this is a very common appearance in the game.
[00:14:07] Well, this might be like an item that we rarely see in pro games, but I've been playing a lot of EU pubs, and this item is actually pretty commonly bought among spectres, and the fact that we don't really get to see much spectre in pro games these days, but it's not such an uncommon buy.
[00:14:27] What do you like about the item? What is it good for?
[00:14:30] Which one do you like better? Why did you choose this one?
[00:14:35] First of all, it can reduce the CD, and it also has a 2-minute control.
[00:14:40] The control matches the big cloud, which is a very strong effect.
[00:14:45] Well, first of all, it does reduce the cooldown on haunt, and the fact that it provides like a two second long CC,
[00:14:51] which would combo into a bestial blade for a very, very strong control, for a very, very strong disable.
[00:14:57] So, yeah, it is a good item.
[00:14:59] sense. What do you think is going to happen against BB team? Are you confident?
[00:15:02] Okay, good to hear that. Well, thank you for coming and good luck in your upcoming match.
[00:15:18] We can beat them. I'm sure both teams are having that in their heads right now. For this series
[00:15:25] It's actually pretty cool that I think for both of these teams said the main focus will be on the off lane for both teams
[00:15:33] Is that correct to say? Yeah, I think so. I mean everything is going to matter a lot, but to me
[00:15:37] I think it's been also like one of the I guess the learning of like this whole tournament and the meta right now
[00:15:44] I feel like if your off lane is overperforming and
[00:15:49] Actually, it doesn't even mean winning their lane. It means like not feeding I guess
[00:15:53] Then you have an edge already because it's the toughest lane to navigate for now.
[00:15:59] We've seen a lot of games just maybe not being lost, but have a really rough start
[00:16:04] just because of what's happening on your off lane and how dominant their safe lane is starting to be.
[00:16:08] Obviously with the gate plays, we see these safe lanes, they have a smooth sailing,
[00:16:13] then they start gating, they start messing with the other safe lanes.
[00:16:16] It's a damage control situation and I think Vici has shown that they're able to do it pretty well.
[00:16:21] So is BV, so I mean, I don't know if it will actually hurt on what two or the other
[00:16:26] But they definitely need to have that angle like covered. Yeah, so many of the offlaners right now
[00:16:31] They like to end up cutting creep waves or not interact with the carry past like level three to five if they're getting up to the start
[00:16:37] And that can be the difference between being like six in the net worth and we didn't seem like Bach on his dark
[00:16:41] Seer yesterday
[00:16:41] He was number one net worth for a large portion of the mid game and he's so gone getting massive blink vacuums on the dark seer and turning team fights
[00:16:48] first team so
[00:16:49] You mentioned like the performance in the laning stage
[00:16:51] I think it might be the most polarizing that I've
[00:16:53] In recent memory for me from the off-lane because we are talking a different screen being number one now worth and kind of having minimal
[00:17:00] Impact so I'm definitely looking at Miro and Bach for this series
[00:17:03] But also I feel like that balance between the carries in the off-lane has been shifting back and forth because we're now seeing a lot
[00:17:09] Of the draws in the SNFs taken out early and I think it's the problem is more opposed to the carries of
[00:17:13] of, okay, how do we actually make sure the offlane does not get that game?
[00:17:17] Because that was easier to do much earlier on in the tournament.
[00:17:19] Yeah, one of the games we saw from Vici Gaming yesterday,
[00:17:22] and they also commented on it,
[00:17:24] that they took a page out of Yannex Book, they looked very strong,
[00:17:27] and we saw them draft incredibly strong lanes already.
[00:17:31] I mean, this was the one where they also had the Slark,
[00:17:33] so that was like the X-Factor there at the end.
[00:17:36] But overall, I mean, it had Coddle Beastmaster and Dream Protector alone drew it.
[00:17:40] First of all, I don't think they're going to get their hands on that.
[00:17:42] Again, that was definitely a little bit of an oversight from their opponents potentially.
[00:17:47] But overall, they have been focusing on those strong lanes, so potentially in the lane stage,
[00:17:52] it will be even.
[00:17:53] I mean, hopefully it will be. I still give BBT an edge just because of how good they are at executing
[00:17:58] that part of the game. To me, the biggest difference would still remain in Vici gaming's
[00:18:04] ability to strategize, because I think yesterday, one of the big reasons for why they dominated the
[00:18:08] the Falcons the way they did it is because they came up with like very solid drafts and
[00:18:12] synergistic drafts like strategies essentially and I don't think Falcons answered it properly
[00:18:17] and I don't know if BB Team is used to answer that either so we'll have to see.
[00:18:22] We will have to see and we are going to see very soon because the semi-finals are upon
[00:18:28] us.
[00:18:29] We have Viki Gaming and BB waiting to take the stage so to get this match started we're
[00:18:34] heading over to the stage.
[00:18:38] Slaps? Here? Yeah, what? Do we, do we know who's playing the finals?
[00:19:08] No bro finals are tomorrow. Do we know who's playing? Okay, but when are semis then?
[00:19:14] Yeah, that's today. Today like when today? I don't know today dude. Wait, wait a second.
[00:19:22] This is Saturday? Yeah. All right, are we are we live? Hey, we're not live bro.
[00:19:30] Well, oh my god
[00:19:32] Slacks, I think we're live. We're not live did slice the lights are on I can hear my echo. There's people in here
[00:19:39] Okay, yeah, we're live. Oh shit. We're like, sorry
[00:19:43] Okay, sorry
[00:19:45] Welcome to Semivite of the Day!
[00:19:47] How we doing out there in the audience?
[00:19:49] You guys alive? Hello?
[00:19:51] Hey!
[00:19:53] Hey!
[00:19:55] Okay.
[00:19:57] All right. I was sleeping through.
[00:19:59] Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to our day here at EWC.
[00:20:01] We have got some good
[00:20:03] door to the day. Before we get into the day, though,
[00:20:05] let's talk a little bit about yesterday, big dog.
[00:20:07] Yeah, I'm sorry to say this.
[00:20:09] I'm a Galaxie fan, but the dream
[00:20:11] is dead.
[00:20:13] that just goes on but you know what that just means we continue with our
[00:20:18] games we're in semi-finals today quarters are done you've got to be happy
[00:20:21] with your performance so far there's been a lot of dreams have been crushed
[00:20:24] here alongside with the keys and you've been very happy with that. Absolutely I
[00:20:29] love watching dreams crushed from the greatest teams out there like Falcons
[00:20:33] to Nigma who we all wanted to shout out to Kerry and Volcker my friends as we go
[00:20:40] into our day here today. This is going to be pretty exciting. Many dreamers still here in the stage.
[00:20:47] Not many will be left after this if you're asking me. Just tomorrow there will only be two teams left
[00:20:53] for that grand final in our trophy which we'll be talking about to no end as we get closer to it.
[00:21:00] However, let's introduce our first two teams and our semi-finals. First up, it's BB team!
[00:21:07] Baby, already last year, the Esports woke up 20-25, they hit the quarterfinals, yes they
[00:21:15] were doing great, but the dream ended just there.
[00:21:18] This time around, it's straight on to the semis, even though they have to fight through survival,
[00:21:23] they're doing better than ever.
[00:21:25] They got dreams up the wazoo, but they're here to crush whoever faces them in these games.
[00:21:32] You've seen them focused, you've seen them ready to go, and so far they have crushed
[00:21:37] LGD crushed Nick McAllister and today they have one more quote-unquote underdog that they're ready to put six feet under
[00:21:45] No, no, it's not gonna happen my friends
[00:21:47] We have seen many underdogs in this tournament go down with a whimper, but this team is different
[00:21:55] I don't even recognize this team this team looks nothing like they have before and now they're coming to prove
[00:22:01] The Chinese Dota is alive again!
[00:22:04] Let's bring out Vici Gaming!
[00:22:11] Here they come.
[00:22:13] These men have fought through the hardest of teams
[00:22:17] and made them look like garbage.
[00:22:20] Today we will see if they are ready to put the next giant juggernaut into the trash
[00:22:28] Or they'll be scoring themselves out to the airport.
[00:22:32] I think it could go either way.
[00:22:34] I am expecting at least an incredible series, no 2-0 in this one.
[00:22:39] Absolutely.
[00:22:40] I really wanted to go to a Game 3 in this because there's just a lot of hope.
[00:22:44] BB Team on the rise back at it again in the season 2026.
[00:22:48] We got Chinese note on the other side that yesterday we've been hyping up.
[00:22:51] They hyped it up.
[00:22:52] They're the defenders of all this here and I cannot wait to see it.
[00:22:55] So please, Vici Gaming, please BB Team.
[00:22:58] You may place your keys and get set and ready for your game.
[00:23:01] And I'm very much ready for this one because I'm sure there'll be a lot of disrespect.
[00:23:05] None at all. They'll shake hands. They'll be happy with it.
[00:23:07] No, there's no disrespect here. Look at the teamwork. Just putting the key down.
[00:23:12] Here we go. Nice, Ante. Alright.
[00:23:14] Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are ready to get that carnage started with this fantastic game.
[00:23:19] Underdogs versus the guys who put them down. Let's see our goes.
[00:23:24] I throw it back to our panel.
[00:23:28] I think the EV team is a very strong early game team.
[00:23:32] Escaped their drafts very good.
[00:23:34] I think we need to play map and play teamfights with them.
[00:23:39] What is happening? What? No one sees them?
[00:23:41] There's gonna be a promote chrono on the 3X.
[00:23:44] I'm gonna fall and take down two right away. Boom!
[00:23:47] Listen, listen, listen!
[00:23:48] No one will go! You cannot hide!
[00:23:51] Crystal is gone!
[00:23:52] Ancestors got focused on a more extended with that PK.
[00:23:55] I'm gonna go and the overhook on the 3 here!
[00:23:57] With the alone eggs, they're gonna give a shot right in their own face.
[00:24:04] Our route was easy in a way.
[00:24:06] I was actually surprised that the Vichy Gaming won against 1W,
[00:24:09] and then they won against Falcons.
[00:24:11] They're getting better and better with these shares, so it's gonna be a fun game for sure.
[00:24:14] I think we're kind of confident, yes, coming into this series against the Vichy Gaming.
[00:24:27] You're exciting through it, Paul!
[00:24:29] I mean, we're just going to trade Vici Gaming as any other team.
[00:24:32] I don't think there's going to be any special preparation.
[00:24:35] We haven't been, you know, getting champion teams for a very long time.
[00:24:38] Of course, we want to do that as a Chinese team.
[00:24:44] These two teams only faced each other once this entire season.
[00:24:48] It was just a couple of months ago.
[00:24:51] It went the distance, it went to that game three,
[00:24:53] and at the end of it all, it was BB Team that was victorious on that one.
[00:24:56] that one but it was close. Final Word has not been said yet about either of these teams.
[00:25:04] I can't wait to see what they bring to the table in the draft that is coming your way
[00:25:07] very soon here with BSJ and Sev. We're going to try to give a little bit of insight on
[00:25:12] what we think might be coming and I think I want to start with the mid lane and I think
[00:25:16] I might want to start with the Lina. Anybody want to have some insight on that?
[00:25:21] I mean both teams are hoping to get it I would say. I think I'd be really surprised if it
[00:25:26] gets through the pool and if it does you better be sure that there is like an answer absolutely
[00:25:32] ready and you know we'll see maybe like the hardest takes on how to beat lina but essentially if
[00:25:38] lina gets through it's going to be picked on 100 percent we have you know shiro and obviously xm
[00:25:46] two lina specialists and on the other side there's gpk i'm sure kiri titch can you know take a page
[00:25:52] out of Watson's book and he's also comfortable on it so yeah no doubt this hero will be top priority.
[00:25:57] Yeah I think it's funny that we're even talking about Lena because day one I don't
[00:26:01] think this hero was factored into drafts at all. I think as the meta develops you have the ranged
[00:26:07] carries that like the SFs and the drows that are the Krim Dilla Krim they get picked every single
[00:26:12] game or banned every single game and teams are like so we see initially a Lena come out. I believe
[00:26:18] it was Yandex that ran it first and we thought it was going to be mid and then they flexed it to
[00:26:21] carry for Watson and then Shiro does the same thing in his first playoff game or first playoff series
[00:26:27] and then people like wait it's working as a carry why don't we just also pick it as a mid and then
[00:26:32] here we are talking about it being a first-hand band. I think the teams that are able to see those
[00:26:36] heroes played by one other team recognize the strength that it offered in the game and then
[00:26:40] apply it themselves. There's a reason that both these guys have made it here. Lena does end up
[00:26:44] getting banded because Lena has graduated to that number one band or round one band slot. Suddenly
[00:26:51] were seeing a lot more loners and such that I mean I might be biased but I have to say that
[00:26:56] you know when I put my mind to these drafts and how the meta is developing I am 100% in agreement
[00:27:01] with every Vici gaming read so far and I think this opener to me looks like it looks really good
[00:27:08] for them I'll have to personally I think they won with long to yesterday but I don't think laundry
[00:27:12] did anything I mean in a sense I'm sure he would have carried the game but the game was like pretty
[00:27:17] pretty much done by the time he came online, like Slark was dominating, Beast Cuddle, they
[00:27:21] came, like Amar talked about the game yesterday and he said, I don't think this Laundred or
[00:27:25] this Slark even did anything, we had a Beast Cuddle problem and Laundred is a really slow
[00:27:30] hero, like this hero starts playing when he gets Mjolnir Hags and this is the beast answer,
[00:27:34] like their take is basically by the time you have these items there's going to be a level
[00:27:39] two dawn beast that would have taken all towers, taken Rosh, taken Tormentor and you're going
[00:27:46] to be playing from you know 10k lead behind with a first pick hero that will
[00:27:49] also be countered by our carry. So I very much love this approach I personally
[00:27:55] think that this loaded hero is absolutely overrated and that it should
[00:27:58] not I am gonna you know take the gamble here that it's just gonna go away from
[00:28:04] being first faced in the next games and maybe even even in the finals. So we'll
[00:28:09] have to see how they make it work and how they execute it. I think the call
[00:28:12] okay the call got banned so they're not gonna get their hands on this call.
[00:28:15] Obviously the laning phase will be extremely tough for the Beastmaster, so let's see how witchy gaming is is able to maybe damage control this a little bit
[00:28:23] Yeah, I think Beastmaster is a very interesting hero conceptually because I agree with everything you said by the way
[00:28:28] And the heroes win rate is 42% for the event
[00:28:31] And I think that's because the hero is so polarizing in terms of doesn't get shut down in lane and just have virtually no impact
[00:28:37] Or does it literally consume the entire map taking every single objective as you mentioned and the teams that have utilized it to the best?
[00:28:43] I think there's a reason why it's such a scared a scary pick
[00:28:47] Despite its win rate now representing
[00:28:49] I don't think every hero's win rate is indicative of its strength in the in the meta itself and
[00:28:53] We've been seeing Helm doll on every off-laner pretty much maybe other than like axe
[00:28:57] We've been seeing it on darks here have been seeing it on centaur
[00:29:00] So it only makes sense that the likens the beastmasters will come into play later on in this in this meta
[00:29:05] It's easy to say that in hindsight 20-20, but Wyvern a common
[00:29:09] I'd say counterpicked to both of these heroes, the Lone Druid for the percentage HP on the bear
[00:29:14] but also the Beastmaster because you can actually kill him with his own summons.
[00:29:17] It's like I like the wyvern pick, I think we've seen it work pretty well against Lone Druid
[00:29:22] even though it's not as good as it used to be and I mean it's very good in the early game
[00:29:25] stops being you know it's a little bit worse once Lone Druid plays with ags obviously because
[00:29:30] there's no such thing as killing the main but still you're gonna love the cold embrace in a
[00:29:35] game like that. I also want to mention the VT Gaming bands, I think they're very much on point
[00:29:39] like Centaur is finally getting the respect the hero deserves in my opinion. I'm surprised we haven't
[00:29:43] seen at first phase bandwraith teams. Everyone is dominant like all the most successful teams are
[00:29:48] just crushing game. Like you think of DM, you think of Miero, like you just picked this hero early
[00:29:52] and it's always doing its job. It has incredible early game, great late game, Lina's out as we
[00:29:58] mentioned, Kez, Kiritouch, he even said in interview it's my absolute signature hero so whenever I
[00:30:02] play it I feel like I'm just gonna win the game. So very well targeted bands from both teams in
[00:30:07] in my opinion. So they're kind of forcing each other's into like the second plan.
[00:30:12] Did that make sense?
[00:30:13] Yeah, absolutely. I think I just agree with everything you said. Like the read
[00:30:17] from Vici has consistently impressed me during these playoffs stages. They've
[00:30:23] made such a significant adjustment going from the group state. I just can't
[00:30:26] overstate that enough. I'll happily be a broken record on that one. You know, for
[00:30:30] me, Wyburn is, I feel like she's kind of in the category of which doctor where
[00:30:34] she's meant to give you a little bit of sustain and lane.
[00:30:37] She's meant to provide you with some sort of damage output
[00:30:40] that helps you take down these really high HP heroes.
[00:30:43] And then on the other side of things,
[00:30:44] she's a little bit less aggressive,
[00:30:45] more on the counter initiation side of those things.
[00:30:48] But then people have been, you know, diving deep
[00:30:50] into the ranged carry hero pool.
[00:30:53] Glinks is a hero we've seen a few times
[00:30:55] throughout the course of this tournament.
[00:30:56] And what I like about this specific pick here
[00:30:58] is he's one of the few ranged heroes in the entire pool
[00:31:01] that have like a attack speed steroid
[00:31:04] that would help them kill the Tombstone with Undying.
[00:31:06] You usually want to play like a non-heads-up game, right?
[00:31:09] You don't want to just fight into them head like straight on.
[00:31:11] You want to split them up.
[00:31:12] You want to flank them and burst them down.
[00:31:14] And Clinkz is perfect for doing that
[00:31:16] because he's going to save the guy in front.
[00:31:17] Yeah, and we've seen these Undyings, right?
[00:31:19] Like they become a problem, like very early in the game.
[00:31:22] It's like they're just standing there
[00:31:24] and they have Blink Dagger, they have the Shard,
[00:31:27] they have BKB at times.
[00:31:28] So I really like this like overwhelming amount
[00:31:30] of physical damage approach,
[00:31:31] where it's like you just kill the Therald.
[00:31:33] Like you don't let them basically break your formation by just being there and running a choose spamming DKs.
[00:31:39] I think you just have to burst the hero down.
[00:31:40] It's not that tanky, like it's deceptively tanky.
[00:31:43] Undying has a really bad strength gain actually.
[00:31:46] And once, even when they are like high level, level 15 or something running around with bling DK,
[00:31:50] they're under 2k HP, which is very little for strength heroes.
[00:31:54] So good approach in my opinion.
[00:31:56] I like the cleanse pickup.
[00:31:57] They go for the GPK puck.
[00:31:58] It's a very strong pick.
[00:32:00] And funny enough, it's kind of slow, right?
[00:32:04] We criticized Puck for being a slow hero and saying that, yep, we saw Lorin off yesterday,
[00:32:08] one of the best Puck players also out there, and he was like struggling to really enter
[00:32:12] the game, and by the time he did, the game was kind of over.
[00:32:14] I'm just a little bit worried for BB Team, because they have exceptionally good lanes.
[00:32:18] That is true, but they have longed Puck, which I think are two of the slowest cores in the
[00:32:22] meta right now.
[00:32:23] And maybe that plays a little bit in Vici Gaming's plan of delaying the game.
[00:32:28] We heard their interview, like they're saying that they know that the early game might be
[00:32:32] a little bit tough for them, but if they weather the storm, they feel confident.
[00:32:36] Now, you're talking about preparation coming into the series.
[00:32:39] I agree with everything you said about the slowness of their lineup.
[00:32:42] I think XM is historically one of the most counter-picky mids players that we've seen,
[00:32:48] and we saw his Slark vs. the Ember Spirit yesterday.
[00:32:51] I know I wasn't in the game, but I respectfully disagree with Amar on the Slark's impact.
[00:32:55] I think he was, he literally removed Mal-Reen from the game and I think a lot of times the
[00:33:00] mid laner wrote
[00:33:25] you
[00:33:55] you
[00:34:25] you
[00:34:55] you
[00:35:25] you
[00:36:25] he's not going to be able to invade the beast triangle if he's shut down.
[00:36:28] And as soon as Beats hits his timing with She-World, he'll be stacking with Bors.
[00:36:32] He will sac the lane completely. They're going to pull some waves.
[00:36:34] And as soon as he gets the helm of Dumptu, they're going to run around together
[00:36:37] and take over the game.
[00:36:38] And hopefully try to punish Bibi at their own game, which is like, you know,
[00:36:42] playing fast and the sort of dominance in the early game.
[00:36:45] I think both these teams have a fantastic read on the meta.
[00:36:48] I agree conceptually with virtually every pick in these drafts.
[00:36:51] And, quite frankly, I don't know who's going to come out on top because both teams made slight tweaks and adjustments to their strategy while also kind of maintaining their identity of the heroes that have worked for them, like the Beastmaster, as well as the Slardar on the side of BB team.
[00:37:04] So, I'm just excited, because this is the point where both teams have a clear idea, clear cut plan. I like both of them and we're just going to have to see who triumphs.
[00:37:12] Is Necrophos a hero that can set a little bit of a tempo from the mid lane, or is that not needed?
[00:37:17] He's more of a tip-o-sitter in the sense that he draws, he's like a vacuum of attention
[00:37:20] where he puts a lot of pressure on the enemy, and requires the supports to come there.
[00:37:23] Exactly, like he's just gonna basically apply pressure and absorb pressure,
[00:37:29] because they're gonna have to answer him being on TPK's heal, pushing the wave constantly,
[00:37:33] you know, fighting for the runes, Bok's gonna be starving, in that sense,
[00:37:38] he's not gonna be making plays, but he's gonna force BB Team to look at him,
[00:37:42] which essentially is the same result.
[00:37:44] How free are Zink Q and save and making those moves towards the mid lane to help out their mid laner if needed?
[00:37:50] I would say they're both pretty busy with their off-laner. I agree.
[00:37:53] You know, like trying to help their off-laner just stay mentally stable
[00:37:58] Because they're both gonna have a really rough time on their lane.
[00:38:01] I do think it's important to note that earlier on the tournament
[00:38:03] Shiro was playing a lane that was favored and he had one mistake early where he died and it ended up going
[00:38:07] Heavily in favor of the other team and actually lost in the game
[00:38:10] So that's just something I have to believe on his mind a little bit
[00:38:13] and if something like that were to happen on either side, it could absolutely blow the game wide.
[00:38:17] Oh yeah, this is something, yeah, exactly. Like, I think there's something that both teams can afford.
[00:38:21] Like, you need the winning lanes to be winning, because at this point, the whole draft, as we said,
[00:38:27] it makes a lot of sense. It's very well thought through, but it's also based on theory, which is
[00:38:32] what is supposed to happen. And if the theory is just like thrown out of the window because of
[00:38:37] individual mistakes or mixed decisions on lane, this is when it gets redistricted.
[00:38:41] So for us, as viewers, we want the laning sakes to be even,
[00:38:44] because then the mid game can get crazy.
[00:38:47] Is that fair?
[00:38:48] I think what we want to look out for is which lane is indicating a snowball.
[00:38:52] Yeah, one way or the other, because there's going to be a lot of them.
[00:38:53] Not just the Tusk lane, but all the other lanes are also going to snowball.
[00:38:56] And whatever lane does snowball,
[00:38:58] and let's pay attention to how does the support then rotate,
[00:39:00] how does the mid then rotate like that,
[00:39:02] lane's going to bleed into the others very quickly.
[00:39:04] A lot of weight on Zinkia's shoulder, I think,
[00:39:06] in his early game decisions and rotations.
[00:39:09] We are looking at a very fun first game to open up this series made extra fun.
[00:39:17] It sounds funny, Kazim.
[00:39:19] Thank you.
[00:39:20] Vici Gaming vs. BB Team best of three semifinals.
[00:39:24] Winner of this goes to the grand finals.
[00:39:26] Loser is not actually eliminated for once.
[00:39:28] True.
[00:39:29] They go into the third place matchup tomorrow.
[00:39:32] Your thoughts on this general matchup between these two teams?
[00:39:34] I think BB Team overall have been more consistent.
[00:39:37] but Vici have really been rising up in the last few series.
[00:39:40] Yes, I would say perhaps for a lot of people,
[00:39:42] it's a bit unexpected to see Vici here.
[00:39:44] I think like the growth that they've shown
[00:39:46] and how they got here has been kind of insane,
[00:39:49] you know, knocking out 1W,
[00:39:50] knocking out Falcons as well in the prior round.
[00:39:54] I don't really know if I have a favorite,
[00:39:56] but when it comes to like a Chinese team's performance,
[00:39:58] this is the most impressed I've been
[00:40:00] since the TI finals of last year.
[00:40:02] Yeah, well, they're peaking at the right time,
[00:40:04] that for sure.
[00:40:05] He's going to see a crush from Miero onto Y, gets off the snowball, but he's just going to connect with Miero and he's just outnumbered.
[00:40:11] So this should be first blood going away of BB team, and he'll go to save on the hood wing.
[00:40:16] So a good start for them.
[00:40:18] When you get to this stage of a tournament, giving first blood or any gold injection can make a huge difference on any of these players.
[00:40:25] I'm a little interested or surprised perhaps that they put, so they're putting the Winter Wyvern into the offlane.
[00:40:30] Of course, you know Arctic burn is very very good against the undying and against the long road in the top lane
[00:40:35] But it also means you don't have like a cold embrace and the safe lane against the starter and the hook with convo
[00:40:40] So we'll have to see how the lanes go
[00:40:42] Now this matchup accent playing the necrophos against gpk on his puck one of his best heroes
[00:40:47] I was maybe his second best after storm
[00:40:49] I would say I would maybe even put like his puck as number one. I think this is like his absolute signature
[00:40:54] This is a necro favorite matchup and it can go from bad to worse really quick
[00:41:00] As neck was a type of hero if he gets an early advantage he can sit on your hill permanently hit you out region you because he just wins with the sustaining overall
[00:41:10] And look at the rest of BB teams lineup loan druid which has been a hit or a miss in basically every game until yesterday
[00:41:17] Yeah, actually it's been mostly a miss until yesterday where we saw the bear kind of appear in the mid game
[00:41:23] While the rest of the course actually carry them
[00:41:26] Yeah, they were kind of winning without him, in a way, but...
[00:41:29] Is that the requirement for this hero right now?
[00:41:31] I don't think your team needs to win.
[00:41:33] If they can stabilize and damage control, I think you're happy.
[00:41:36] If your team is winning, they're like giga overperforming.
[00:41:40] See how he ends up shaping the lone druid this game.
[00:41:44] As we see the Undying on Kat Daomi,
[00:41:46] we talked about the Hoodimink already,
[00:41:48] and then the Offlane, Niero on Slardar,
[00:41:50] which, in combination with lone druid in the mid to late game,
[00:41:54] I'm gonna be pretty fearsome combo overall.
[00:41:56] It's very, very good.
[00:41:57] And they talked about it on the panel too, right?
[00:41:59] Puck, overall, while it is one of GPK's best heroes,
[00:42:02] the heroism looks phenomenal.
[00:42:03] You know, it's one of the few tournaments
[00:42:04] where the win rate isn't that good.
[00:42:06] You're starting to run into damage problems,
[00:42:08] but they have a lot of damage amplification, right?
[00:42:10] You have the boomerang later.
[00:42:11] You have the flesh golden damage amp
[00:42:13] and also the Correlsa phase.
[00:42:15] And you can see that at least for now,
[00:42:16] GPK is doing a very good job at this early game.
[00:42:20] Yeah, basically an even start for the Puck B Necrophos matchup is going to be both sides getting the water runes as well
[00:42:27] in terms of rotations in the mid lane, which team do you think has the advantage with not only the supports that can come and potentially get a kill
[00:42:34] but also being able to leave their off laner or whatever other lane, even the safe lane or alone.
[00:42:40] Honestly, it's maybe not that different for both sides.
[00:42:43] Like, I would say like Tusk, both Tusk and Woodring really like leaving their lanes.
[00:42:47] I'm not sure if we'll see that much from both Shinkyu and Katoumi playing the winter wyvern and the zombie is there a
[00:42:52] Little bit more slow, but overall like the other annoying thing for the necro from for park against the neck with this match
[00:42:58] It is it by the time you have coil usually necro is like nearly full HP. He's got like a 21 ready
[00:43:03] He's got maybe even a raindrop a fluffy hat. So it's very difficult to move to this lane
[00:43:08] And we see a little bit of action here from barbecue brisket team as you can see
[00:43:12] balking and pushed out just a bit playing the Beastmaster which has been an extremely
[00:43:16] consistent off-lane. It feels like any off-lane that buys down to the Dom becomes just that.
[00:43:22] Yeah, and he owned yesterday. Like his Beast performance was crazy and he was very, very
[00:43:27] pressured in that game as well. And honestly, while this early Laney stage is not that easy
[00:43:31] for the Beast, I think Beast scales quite well throughout this lane. Like once you get level
[00:43:36] 2 boars, maybe level 3 could yield a lot of damage to the bear. Also, Undying, kind of,
[00:43:41] He likes playing against Beast early on, but not later.
[00:43:43] All the summons are very annoying, it's very hard to run into this hero.
[00:43:47] How good would you say Wyvern is against the bear later in the game, especially if you're
[00:43:50] linked up?
[00:43:51] Very good.
[00:43:52] I think Wyvern has to be like one of the worst support matchups.
[00:43:57] One of the supports you have Cold Embrace, first of all, obviously that's a full notification
[00:44:00] of any damage you have on Londred, and the curse as well is incredibly good, as is Arctic
[00:44:04] Burn.
[00:44:05] The bear hates when there's random stuff that's slowing you, that's stunning you, that's making
[00:44:09] difficult for you to walk in. So I'm expecting Jinkyu to have very good impact, which he always does.
[00:44:15] Yeah, no doubt about it. Whether it's killing couriers or heroes, he'll do something in the game usually.
[00:44:21] One of the more, I mean, it's weird to call him underrated, but he keeps finding himself on new
[00:44:26] teams. I mean, I guess that's just the Chinese scene in general. But this guy is very good.
[00:44:31] Like, whatever team he joins, they play incredibly well, right? Like, Vici were fine,
[00:44:35] but then they get XM, they get Jinkyu, and I feel like they're finally starting to really
[00:44:38] Flourish with like what they're showing us with the performance for sure, which begs the question
[00:44:43] Why are they free agents to begin with? Yeah, shout out to XG. Maybe doesn't wash his face enough, I suppose
[00:44:48] That's definitely a possibility. He hasn't learned his lesson from the great Jiao 8
[00:44:53] There's caretich right now sitting on the pretty good CS 28 and 4 versus the 22 and 3 of Shiro's clinks
[00:45:00] Which we have yet to mention in this game. How good of a clink scheme is it?
[00:45:03] It's a good clean skin. I wouldn't like it's not free by any means as they should
[00:45:08] potentially get a kill on the believe it or not it's gonna get denied very
[00:45:12] nicely done by GQ. Clean skin also it's good you're dealing with a tough so you're
[00:45:15] quite happy the problem is like Slardar is very annoying for you like later on in
[00:45:19] the game of course the corrosive haze is not something you love playing into but
[00:45:23] other than that you have quite good rose capability you have nice team fighting
[00:45:26] with the beast but I'm I have to point out GPK is he is overperforming this mid lane
[00:45:31] This is not the expected outcome.
[00:45:33] You have to definitely overperform.
[00:45:35] Yeah, the clock gets taken out, locked in there as a rotation from BB team comes to fruition.
[00:45:41] A good kill again for them. 2-0 start, 1K lead.
[00:45:44] Yep.
[00:45:45] And this has to be the move.
[00:45:47] Like when you play against team, teams the 5 minute move with a post fork and TP into the safe, then you get a potential kill.
[00:45:52] It's night time.
[00:45:53] You link up together and you can go to the room now at the 6 minute mark.
[00:45:57] And I am surprised that they can actually play through the smith lane very nicely
[00:46:01] I would say with GPK, full HP, full resources, range of fairy fire, coil to boot
[00:46:05] It can be a fight for this rune if it ends up spawning GLaDON
[00:46:07] As you can see, Miero get a crush on the bot side connecting with Y
[00:46:11] And he will back away as the rune is still top, I do believe
[00:46:16] And it'll be a haste for GPK, so first power rune going away of Backstreet Boys team
[00:46:21] Let's see if the boom squad can make use of this haste rune
[00:46:25] Because while Necro is very good and he can be static right in the mid lane, he's not that good at like responding to sidelines, he's very slow early on until you have travels,
[00:46:34] then you don't really want to move like so much around on the map. And with a haste rune on Mr.GPK, of course you can look for some openings.
[00:46:43] Still many members up here for BB team, and they might bring GPK over to this Wissenshine, right? Minute 7, you've got the haste rune as well.
[00:46:51] as well. And Miero gets gone on, gonna get off the crush, onto Y as a TP and a nice charge blocking him in, but reinforcements have arrived as GenQ
[00:46:59] getting gone on now by GPK and Miero is gonna ensure the kill, although it has to be a bit careful, gets off the crush and the inevitable kill on GenQ comes to fruition.
[00:47:09] Kat, tell me, we've seen this not too long ago, the Undying is very good at these engagements, puts down that tombstone as a reflexite, will bring the Undying to his grave, the Axis coming out, it's Axis getting extremely low.
[00:47:19] with a snowball, can I save him for the time being?
[00:47:21] Into the long druid, carrot that's extremely low,
[00:47:23] he'll get that fear away, trying to go for the whistle,
[00:47:27] trying to get axed in the end,
[00:47:30] and after all of that, bottom brodains,
[00:47:33] and they still have to kill these pesky zombies,
[00:47:35] no vision on the tombstone overall.
[00:47:38] Very, very clutch, honestly, by nearly everyone involved,
[00:47:40] without that snowball, X-Len definitely dies way earlier
[00:47:44] to Carrotage in that rotation, but GPK, top of the net worth,
[00:47:48] Aziz Keratich on the long route, didn't know the long route was maybe a bit more expected
[00:47:52] But the fact that the square team here have a top net worth puck at this stage against the net row
[00:47:57] That is not normal. You say the long route is expected. I feel like every game including the one yesterday where they won
[00:48:03] It's been bottom net worth the entire game until like maybe 40 minutes player issue
[00:48:10] Okay, I think that's I've been very impressed with Keratich who you know when you talk about the experience wise
[00:48:15] You know for BB team, I'd say he's the least experienced all the other people I played multiple TI's have done very well
[00:48:21] They're like all the EWC's but here's that he's been really really stepping it up
[00:48:27] This GP K will find himself a couple of bounty runes not too shabby has the damage runes still bottle
[00:48:32] As you'll see what you see gets out of that
[00:48:36] And XM no big surprise although maybe it is a surprise
[00:48:39] Do you typically go to boost the travel before the radiance in the mid lane?
[00:48:42] If you have an ultra-free game, you can go Radiance, it is quite slow, but I like the travels.
[00:48:47] I think it's one of the ways you can more easily move around the site.
[00:48:51] And also, you have an Offlane Beastmaster, he's gonna have Dominator eventually,
[00:48:54] so anytime there's a roar, you travel on top, drop the scythe, take someone out of the game.
[00:48:59] A little bit in about team with a little bit of lead in this early stage of the game,
[00:49:03] but when it comes to the mid-game, I would assume BB Team have the advantage with Roche,
[00:49:08] Mainly because of the bear and corrosive haze and tombstone I suppose.
[00:49:12] While they... so it's definitely a lot easier for them to take Roche but Vichy are also not that bad when it comes to like fighting it.
[00:49:19] Sure like maybe the pit into the tombstone isn't super easy but you have Winter's Curse against a lot of these heroes it is very good right?
[00:49:26] Corrosive haze, the bear. And this is what we saw them do yesterday. Stack up the triangle.
[00:49:30] You know even though Bach maybe doesn't have the best early laning stage he can just fully recover with D-Max's access.
[00:49:38] The StreetPK is still not opting to use this damage rune quite yet.
[00:49:42] They end up popping on its own accord here pretty soon.
[00:49:45] It's very nice if you can hold these runes as long as possible.
[00:49:48] A lot of the things in Dota are not just about using it, but more like the threat of it.
[00:49:52] He's got a haste rune, we can't make any moves.
[00:49:54] He's got the amplified damage rune because now he still has it for the 10-minute rune fight that's coming up.
[00:49:58] That's true.
[00:49:59] We're pressuring this Tier 1 tower now.
[00:50:01] Next-M can only look on. We'll see what this next rune pops.
[00:50:04] It ends up being like an arcane and damage rune combined.
[00:50:07] which it'll end up being the bot side, just a regen for Miara.
[00:50:12] Nice cover from him, can hold this for GPK.
[00:50:14] And this, you know, the chip damage on towers like this, it matters a lot.
[00:50:18] You have lone root in the top lane, slowly pressuring.
[00:50:20] GPK got the mid tower to 30% now, there's a 10 minute siege creep.
[00:50:24] You know, suddenly instead of being like, oh, we can't take the mid tower,
[00:50:26] you could actually bring some heroes and potentially commit to it.
[00:50:29] I don't see if BattleBots are able to do anything with this rune advantage at this early stage,
[00:50:39] but so far, kind of what we've been seeing across the board in these games is just the
[00:50:44] content to farm in this early stage, not a ton of action.
[00:50:48] As we say that, they are going for smoke into the triangle.
[00:50:52] So looking at, you know, Bach, potentially finding him at the same time, of course, you
[00:50:56] see Karatage pushing at the top tier 1 tower.
[00:50:58] There's the courier, they will not start attacking it.
[00:51:03] See if they break.
[00:51:05] Heading to the north and this will just be pressure for the tier 1.
[00:51:10] See if GPK can find a potential opening here on an actual hero kill.
[00:51:16] And you can see that even though the smoke technically it doesn't land,
[00:51:19] there's a lot of pressure that's currently being put onto Vici.
[00:51:22] Top tier 1 is dying, they're looking for play down here onto Miro.
[00:51:25] Fall onto Miro, just a little bit of chip damage, can't really threaten his life at the moment.
[00:51:32] That's Kat to Omi, puts down the tombstone to ensure that this tier one power will go the way of PB team.
[00:51:39] I think a very, very good early game. I expect it's easy to have a little bit of a lead here,
[00:51:43] as the Shiro taking quite a bit of early pressure.
[00:51:46] That's a long ass up low on the Miro, they still have that vision head.
[00:51:49] Thanks to the Corrosive Hay, then he just gets demolished.
[00:51:51] Even the coil now, Spend it for that double kill on the GPK.
[00:51:55] Very nice turnaround here as XM being pressured now.
[00:51:59] Already a half-HP attack, only coming from the south.
[00:52:01] That's going to be a three-for-nothing as BB Team will likely get the tier one power as well.
[00:52:08] Yeah, BB Team are kind of holding when it comes to some of their early rotations.
[00:52:12] I think this is a bit more of a macro outplay when we're looking at this early game.
[00:52:16] Smoking up top, applying some pressure, pushing mid at the same time.
[00:52:19] GQ wasn't available to come help out and this fight only just got his little six not that long ago and the 3k lead this early on and
[00:52:26] You know we talked about it before sure pop in some games doesn't really pop off
[00:52:30] But first of all it's GP K-pop. He won a matchup that he shouldn't and he's got a lot of back up
[00:52:37] Yeah, definitely being more aggressive now and it's like you said the lead is continue to extend
[00:52:41] This is like it's a bit scary because you're doing this against a lone druid who's not really participating too much at the moment
[00:52:47] That's obviously gonna change once he can separate himself from the bear that agonist scepter, which I assume will come after the Neolner
[00:52:54] Yeah, it's like that is in the quick fire. They did force a true form out of heritage by fake pumping the roar
[00:53:00] They're early on box. So maybe there's a world where you have a window, you know to find a smoke potentially
[00:53:05] Onto the big fat bear, but at the same time already GPK. He's got different ideas. He's coming in
[00:53:10] They want box it was your arms gonna hit to get the waiting ripped as well to the coil
[00:53:14] Is there any follow-up though? The Baron finally comes out as they get the Roar and the Curse at the same time, not the greatest layering.
[00:53:21] With that Vici have to run away. Jhin Q likely to be the sacrifice. Definitely not what the doctor ordered.
[00:53:28] Just an X and die somewhere off the map in the mid lane.
[00:53:32] Wow.
[00:53:33] Blink reveal from Miero. And this is another, like, a great feature often when a team is in the zone.
[00:53:38] You can make multiple plays at the same time, very clearly.
[00:53:41] They attack top with two and in the meantime Mero and save, they're not looking there, they know the job top is done with just two.
[00:53:46] So they keep going to the mid lane and out, 40 minute wisdom shrine, 15 seconds here, forward the Vividibobity team.
[00:53:51] Yeah, the banana boat team are really doing a good job here in the early game.
[00:53:55] And it's gonna be pretty tough for Vici to get their own wisdom shrine like you said.
[00:53:59] Got all these creeps now pushed up, and save just waiting it out and looks like it'll be a freebie for him.
[00:54:06] It's funny like also how Dota works is that if some things don't go according to plan that you would expect
[00:54:12] BB team to be the team that has to play slightly more defensive there behind but they're kind of full just reverse Udo with this
[00:54:18] GPK early game performance where now it's VG gaming they have to wait. They have to wait for the helm of the overlord
[00:54:23] They have to wait for the radiance on XM even shiro on the clings
[00:54:26] You know he's not no that so yet
[00:54:28] He's working on it might even go for the shark first if he feels like he has to play more around the map
[00:54:33] XM did change his mind, by the way, it will be the Radiance first.
[00:54:36] Yeah, because at this point I like it, like, when you're down 4k gold, you're never going to use these boots of travel aggressively.
[00:54:42] Might as well go for the more scaly item, try to speed up your game as much as you can.
[00:54:47] Alright, from Vici's perspective, when is the time that they can actually start fighting?
[00:54:53] This isn't like one of the problems for them, they don't have any clear catch, like, the way Beastmaster likes to play is that he wants to own the area.
[00:55:00] He wants to take the enemy safe lane tier 1, play in their jungle, move into the mid lane, and honestly it's a bit similar for Necron.
[00:55:06] He's not good at walking somewhere and just starting a fight.
[00:55:10] If DK is going to find XM and be a very juicy kill before he can get this Radiance, it's not that far away,
[00:55:15] but if the stun coming out from the toss, but the crush comes out in the last moment,
[00:55:20] if the arrow is illusory or attempt to TP, he barely gets out.
[00:55:24] Big getaway there for XM.
[00:55:27] I would have been quite crippling if the rating is not too far in the future.
[00:55:31] Yeah, very, very neat of survival there.
[00:55:33] 4x7, yeah, just to talk about when they can fight.
[00:55:36] It depends a little bit more, I think when BB team overplay.
[00:55:40] I think until then, Vici are very happy if the game kind of scales and slows down.
[00:55:44] You can see that JinQ going for max out Splinter Blast, and I get it.
[00:55:48] You want to slow down the push, get some couple items, and I like the stuff he has queued up.
[00:55:52] You know, sometimes you can say, oh, JinQ, he's so greedy,
[00:55:55] but an Orc in this game can be a huge difference maker, especially against the GPK Puck.
[00:55:59] You don't want to allow these idiot Puck guys when they have top net worth to just be like,
[00:56:03] whoo-hoo, I go Witchblade, I go Blink, I go Farage, and I just go...
[00:56:06] I'm out of aggression.
[00:56:07] I mean, he's buying the Yule's next, though.
[00:56:09] Yeah, he gets it.
[00:56:09] Or Red Axe, if you can.
[00:56:11] If you see the replay here, XM just barely getting out.
[00:56:16] Of course, it was...
[00:56:16] Waiting for that crush, and that's all he needed, apparently.
[00:56:20] It was very good cover, of course, by Y. Initially tanking the Sharpshooter.
[00:56:24] Yeah.
[00:56:24] and coming in with the overall saves to get XM out.
[00:56:27] You can see them here, they're good spirits, they understand, you know,
[00:56:29] Necrozil can have a very good mid to late game.
[00:56:32] And Bok, already close to Haze applied, we used the roar, but he's completely outnumbered.
[00:56:37] And a tombstone is placed as the reinforcements finally run,
[00:56:39] they're gonna get to push, they're gonna get to the right side as well,
[00:56:41] they do get the kill, turn around on the Kat Naomi,
[00:56:44] but XM bites the dust to the sharpshooter,
[00:56:47] and now of course coming out, a lot of damage applied to Miro, not quite enough for the kill.
[00:56:50] Coyle's not gonna connect his GPK looking to finish the job, his save is just racking up the kills apparently on his hood wing, double kill for him, ends up being a 3 for nothing.
[00:56:58] Very close, Vici turning that around but...
[00:57:01] Exactly, only...
[00:57:02] Man, they lose everything that came.
[00:57:03] Save has 8 vessel charges at mid... I mean that was mid at 16 and it's a Vesta against Winter, Wyvern and Negro which absolutely hurts.
[00:57:11] Later he can also go for the charge, right? You buff up a little bit more, spell amplification into your entire draft.
[00:57:16] draft. So Vici, what I do like, you know, some of the heroes that they have didn't even mention,
[00:57:21] I love Metro and Winter Wyvern together. Maybe later when there's a nullifier, you can't use
[00:57:25] your Ghost Rock suddenly. There's a ghost, like a cold embrace to help Yalva. When you're playing
[00:57:30] into this type of deficit, a lot of things become a lot more difficult. Yeah. And how
[00:57:35] BaskinBasketball team actually go for Roche, do you think? I think they can dunk Roche real quick.
[00:57:39] Yeah. Yeah. You've got Undying and I don't know if you can ask for much better like Roche takers
[00:57:44] He's outside of your carry position.
[00:57:47] You can have the Tombstone, you've got the Damage Amp.
[00:57:50] Luckily for VG, the Golem is on cooldown here for Katoumi.
[00:57:55] I sure will show himself, she's a newly picked up Desolator, but like we can see on the other side, Roche will be cleanly taken by PvT.
[00:58:03] And I like this too, from GPK. You know, it's about some of the small things.
[00:58:06] You know that there's a very small chance VG contest this Roche, even if they do.
[00:58:10] You can just TP like GPK is doing as they want to hand him the Aegis, but in the meantime, he was defending the top tier one tower, safe, but whacked into the dust to actually find the Glacier.
[00:58:19] Or they'd have to be crushed and destroyed. No time to do anything for Shiro.
[00:58:24] And Bully Ball came a really snowballing this with an 8k lead now, Aegis still intact obviously, and they can just push down any lane they want.
[00:58:33] I mean, honestly these guys are just striking everywhere on the entire map.
[00:58:37] You can also see how fast they're playing, like BBT, full confidence, very little pressure on them.
[00:58:42] As they are teeping up top, they have a very nice lane ward where Saif is also swatting them.
[00:58:46] And we are looking for an opening, gets the Crosivade into the crush though,
[00:58:50] that's no more going to save block for a little bit, but the push back onto two with the coil to follow,
[00:58:54] just way too much damage for BBT, not even close.
[00:58:58] And this is going to approach the 10k lead mark, or 10k network lead at this stage of the game.
[00:59:03] It's 19 minutes in, this is absurd levels of play from BB Team.
[00:59:07] These guys are zoning like pretty hard.
[00:59:10] They'll first indicate the fenced top as they take Roche, safe in the meantime while Roche dies,
[00:59:14] sets up the mid-play, immediately after the mid-play he teepes top towards the lane ward.
[00:59:18] And you can just tell, they have a very nice read and grasp on the map currently.
[00:59:23] Trying to push back everyone.
[00:59:27] Not too long away, we're gonna see that Tormentor taking out, of course with the Curls of Haze,
[00:59:31] It's going to be easy pickaxe for BBT.
[00:59:34] It's not a benefit of this hero.
[00:59:37] You own a lot of heroes because armor is...
[00:59:40] Obviously you can't buy Lotus Ores, but it takes a while,
[00:59:42] but you're so good at both Roche and Tormentor,
[00:59:44] probably the best hero at amplifying it.
[00:59:50] It just feels like Shiro just finding scraps across the map.
[00:59:54] It feels like that's the case for every core on BG's side,
[00:59:57] Because the top three networks in the game are all cores from BB Team.
[01:00:01] And we've seen more and more shards on the Undying, especially Katomine.
[01:00:05] I like it here.
[01:00:06] I love it.
[01:00:07] And he's been dying it in any game, but especially in this one.
[01:00:09] There's the scythe, there's the roar, winters, turrets, everything.
[01:00:13] Like they already have so many good things available.
[01:00:15] And with the two shards that they bought, you know, that means one of the cores could
[01:00:18] even get a charge for themselves.
[01:00:22] Or just the boomerang.
[01:00:23] Which it will be.
[01:00:24] They will be quite happy about that. You have physical damage and you have magic damage and you have overall damage and from the undying, they lose their top tier 1 tower.
[01:00:36] But this is not how you want to play Necro. Necro wants to vacuum the entire wave with Radiance Travels. He doesn't even have Uso's Travel as he has to deviate his item build.
[01:00:46] Kiritich has got his bear now, his baseball team ready to push even more.
[01:00:51] And Aegis online for another two and a half.
[01:00:55] No rush for BB Team.
[01:00:58] Absolutely not.
[01:01:00] Going to wait for this wisdom shrine again.
[01:01:02] He's got the adds available on the loan.
[01:01:04] Kiritich can just take the bottom shrine.
[01:01:06] Actually find the connection, not the XN.
[01:01:08] Just creating a little bit of space that can steal this batch.
[01:01:10] Oh my god! The burst damage is absurd!
[01:01:14] expended onto the Beastmaster. A nice curse though, a lot of damage on the X and the Roar
[01:01:18] comes up, the last solar wave, hit the Sunstone, he grabs his ally and this is just looking
[01:01:22] not remotely close. Double kill for GPK, looking for shield on the back side, it's the only
[01:01:28] member of Vici able to get away at this point. GPK picking up his Shard in base.
[01:01:34] He just picked up a 21 minute Shard at the enemy fountain. This game like, without throwing
[01:01:39] any shade, it looks like they're kind of smurfing on Vici gaming and this is not an easy thing
[01:01:43] to replicate by any means, BB team are there just owning everywhere. Look at this kill
[01:01:49] on XM, it's basically, it's save and coil. That's it.
[01:01:53] Car shooter into crush. Boom, our GPK actually getting that one.
[01:01:57] And it's like, that's one of the good connection though, the curse into the eventually more
[01:02:01] great layering, but you see the solar, the tombstone, just too much.
[01:02:06] They really, they need this Orchid on GQ. It is one of the small ways you can potentially
[01:02:11] come back. You can maybe force out the defensive fuels and like snowball through, catch him
[01:02:16] on the way down, or maybe you can orchid the undying while the fight is going, because
[01:02:20] then actually you would get a kill. But yeah, Habibi Squad, they are demolishing them in
[01:02:26] this game. Yeah, for sure. Nice caretich. He's starting to wake up because he has agg
[01:02:30] and acceptor so his bear can do his work. You're looking for a random crush. Not able
[01:02:35] to find a connection, but they do find the coil onto Y. That's Castle Omnion's there.
[01:02:40] Splack actually hits from same he has been all over the place my number one support by the way just just saying I'm with you
[01:02:47] Oh, yeah, good. Well, you were disagreeing with me yesterday. I don't own safe. Yeah, he's a zero
[01:02:52] I love this guy. He's like one of the best players. We had a literal argument on stream
[01:02:56] Well, you said best I said like top three. Yeah, I think he's the best. It's always there
[01:03:00] Let's let's see let them talk today and tomorrow with his gameplay. Hey, no on hood way. That is yeah saying
[01:03:05] Yeah, most of them are doing pretty well as we could also force get a very mini scoreline in the 3-2-2
[01:03:10] with the PVSquad team could get another kill onto the board.
[01:03:14] That's one thing we can look forward to in this game, as BKB picked up by Miara.
[01:03:19] Hey Smoke, purchase by Junkyu, mind when I look for, well, a big reveal here on the orchid.
[01:03:26] Make me surprise someone.
[01:03:31] Yeah, they're gonna need a lot more than that.
[01:03:33] Oh yeah.
[01:03:34] I mean the problem is you have tombstone to save as we've already seen the arrow
[01:03:39] Looking for the opening on the XM. Why is there the snowball doesn't mitigate that much damage healing up nicely not BKB
[01:03:45] Necrophos actually focusing on the tusk for now the mass comes out into the cross goodbye XM
[01:03:50] Goodbye Y double kill from arrow and beach ball team. They're gonna get I mean this is
[01:03:58] absurd
[01:04:00] We missed the 3-2-2 by the way, really unfortunate.
[01:04:02] They have also like a 2 second window, because XM, he doesn't seem like a hero at the moment.
[01:04:07] It is so difficult for him to play into these dire heroes, too many problems.
[01:04:11] Magic damage, physical damage, he needs a man, he needs a Sheva's Guard, he needs Travels, and you don't have the space to fund the gold.
[01:04:20] Let's see, who gets called like first this game from the BBD Bobby squad.
[01:04:23] Probably safe.
[01:04:24] Wouldn't mind seeing him rack up another kill here on the hoodway.
[01:04:27] Looking for another connection here, Meryl heading to the north, which is actually where
[01:04:34] Shiro is, but he's able to TP out in time.
[01:04:37] Back there even close to this is kind of crazy.
[01:04:42] Just no space at all for Ichi to find any levels of farm.
[01:04:46] And Black Bear team, I mean, speaking of the bear, finally getting online and this is when
[01:04:52] things start to get even crazier because they've been doing this, we said literally the same
[01:04:56] thing yesterday.
[01:04:57] They've been doing this mostly without the Sloan Druid.
[01:04:59] And honestly, their base push later, like if they want to force, they absolutely can.
[01:05:03] You have the bear, you have soul rifts, you can drop a tombstone.
[01:05:06] You have a solar crest on safe, who's currently queuing up on lads as well.
[01:05:09] You know, just all the little types of boss and armor and physical and you can pump into your bear.
[01:05:18] See what future up to here. Looking for a smoke.
[01:05:23] Overall,
[01:05:23] BB team have done a very good job when it comes to the map.
[01:05:26] Like only giving us three kills. It's not that VG aren't looking for them.
[01:05:29] They have a winter wyvern with an orchid, a tusk with a blink dagger, and a destillator on their things.
[01:05:37] They might run into the bear.
[01:05:39] Can they even kill the bear though? It's the question.
[01:05:42] Well they can try, but if there's any counter play...
[01:05:44] It feels like they would need to expend a good amount at this stage of the game, and they can just resummon it.
[01:05:49] Like you're not really gaining that much.
[01:05:53] It's a big chance that Vici might just wait for the BB squad to potentially overplay on to them in the map
[01:06:00] And Shirou can look for him. The real hero. Yeah
[01:06:05] Might not look like a real hero with a single branch in his inventory
[01:06:09] Think you're just may have spotted that some camps were dead that just respawned around his bear
[01:06:13] So potentially knowing that. Oh, it's farm speed. That is impressive
[01:06:16] You think he's even even looking at that hero?
[01:06:18] Honestly, it's at this point like longer. It has to be one of the best farmers and like Nagasir and Alchemist and all of these heroes
[01:06:26] I also like that you can just get like the same neutral item of the same enchantment like Mimble Serrated Shift is
[01:06:31] Incredibly good to farm. Yeah
[01:06:34] So of course the rest of the boys in the team will you know rack up their greedy enchantments
[01:06:40] So blink on gq is what he currently has is eyeing up. You also got a blink on y
[01:06:44] So you at least are getting a little bit of mobility on the supports here
[01:06:48] You know, wonder what Bach is going to buy, saving a lot of gold on the beast, maybe just like a straight-up AC.
[01:06:53] I think that could be quite good. I try to just overwhelm them with minus armor on the Deso and the beast here.
[01:06:59] Not often you see somebody with 4k gold in this position.
[01:07:03] Yeah. Just goes to show you that, you know, you have to find those moments and opportunities in the game to be creative.
[01:07:10] Maybe find some of those items that in other games you would never entertain buying at this position, but maybe here you have to.
[01:07:15] Yep, and you can see BB team just forming a map. They can go for Rosh any time they want
[01:07:21] And that's when the bear onto the bear might be able to get life number one
[01:07:26] They will not so in the states that beachy gaming are in right now
[01:07:31] I'm just gonna go blow up the clink since then that is what a kill looks like said BB team and I curse so on to the
[01:07:38] But with the orchid the fall it's a lot of damage gets off the you was gonna dodge the snowball as a result
[01:07:43] The toss just drops as a random member, three dead for Vici, and very bursting team just continue the pressure here.
[01:07:52] Okay, Arkhanos just only through this entire map, right?
[01:07:55] Like, Bok couldn't really connect, like XM as well, and I don't even know if he really looked at this play.
[01:08:00] He's just, you know, staying at top lane, trying to farm off, waiting for a better opportunity.
[01:08:05] That's only a bit of a misplay earlier, not having any detection against the bear, and then just getting counterplayed.
[01:08:10] They're doing this without ages, they need to realize how ahead they are.
[01:08:14] They're gonna force out the fortification.
[01:08:16] You can try to force them all to base and then still play. You can play for any time you want here.
[01:08:22] I'm gonna back away, play Discipline.
[01:08:25] Which has been the thing I've been most impressed with with BB Team is...
[01:08:28] They don't really throw leads all too often anymore. If you go back, I mean, I know the roster has slightly changed, but even just GPK alone,
[01:08:35] they had a propensity to do so, like no other team, I feel like.
[01:08:38] Now, these guys have all improved massively, not just individually, but I think as a team.
[01:08:45] And not just gameplay-wise, where like you're, you know, the skill, it's also like the mentality and what you're working on, what's important in the game.
[01:08:51] When is the last time VG got a kill in this game? Like 10?
[01:08:54] 50 days.
[01:08:55] It's been a hot minute, and even the bear won't count that as a kill at this point in the game.
[01:09:00] This could be something, this could be an opening for VG.
[01:09:04] They are smoked up.
[01:09:06] You can see GPK popping the smoke on a couple members, and BBKM gonna play it a little bit safe.
[01:09:13] I'll wait for Richie to make a move, potentially.
[01:09:19] So, not in any huge hurry. Don't want to take any chances for the bucket barfing team.
[01:09:26] 19k lead with the smoke.
[01:09:29] Oh, good stun.
[01:09:30] Well, Vici should be happier if Rosh ends up going to the top side of the map.
[01:09:34] I think maybe if you want to play with some Biobags or do something.
[01:09:37] We have a smoke on smoke action.
[01:09:40] They are dodging each other from now.
[01:09:44] I need to see where Vici go here.
[01:09:45] Are you going to go through the gate to end the top?
[01:09:47] Are they just waiting for some tormentor plays that are like to go all the way around?
[01:09:51] Yeah.
[01:09:52] Rosh.
[01:09:53] He does belch.
[01:09:54] He does belch.
[01:09:55] He's going to go to the top in 10 seconds.
[01:09:59] It's a double tap onto Y.
[01:10:01] Holy Jesus, this is absurd.
[01:10:05] Now the creep for Bok not going to live too much longer.
[01:10:07] They hit the coil onto the single target.
[01:10:11] Ghost rock going to keep him safe for now as XM.
[01:10:14] Starting to do a little bit of damage.
[01:10:16] We're going to get the roar at the last moment,
[01:10:18] but this damage is just too much.
[01:10:19] They are just dropping like flies.
[01:10:21] This is not remotely close.
[01:10:22] GD's called.
[01:10:24] BB team take it.
[01:10:25] 30 to 3 is the scoreline.
[01:10:28] Not remotely close.
[01:10:30] No, that is a very unexpected stomp.
[01:10:32] Like from what we've seen from Beachy in the last couple days,
[01:10:35] they look so good, but here, I have to say,
[01:10:38] I think there's a big outskill going on,
[01:10:40] because I didn't mind the draft at all.
[01:10:42] But GPK, putting on a show, you know,
[01:10:44] the whole blockbuster team here kind of just showing up together,
[01:10:46] winning all their lanes, perfect movements,
[01:10:48] giving up only three kills in 30 minutes,
[01:10:50] and I think XMG got outskilled in his mid lane.
[01:10:54] Yeah, I can't wait to see the highlights,
[01:10:56] This is a single kill from BG Gaming on that, because that is hard to watch, if I'm being honest, from the BB Team side.
[01:11:05] 7-0 for GPK.
[01:11:06] Godlike.
[01:11:07] 8-0 for Miero.
[01:11:08] And 9-0 for the support hoodlink.
[01:11:11] Mr. Save.
[01:11:12] Absolute beast mode activated for him.
[01:11:15] Just getting some kills, and this is one of the signs of the top tier team, they get an advantage, and it gets more and more.
[01:11:21] One small play leads to the other.
[01:11:23] They do well in the offlane safe. TP's to the top lane. They get a kill there. Somehow GPK is overplaying in the midlane
[01:11:29] And it's all just leading into the next play. One of the more clean wins that I've seen in this entire tournament.
[01:11:34] There's a kill for Vici. That was 33% of their kills. That was a 5 second clip.
[01:11:39] That was the second kill at minute 7. In the next 25 minutes they got one kill. One.
[01:11:44] Oh my god.
[01:11:47] Haven't seen destruction like this in quite some time.
[01:11:50] Not just making perfect use and this team has been scary it happens at a lot of
[01:11:56] tournaments where BB team just get you know a little bit underrated a little
[01:11:59] bit underestimated of overall how good they are all you know they're gonna get
[01:12:03] top four someone's gonna tilt not today son not today they're showing up in
[01:12:07] full force that was incredibly clean. They've looked as good as anybody in
[01:12:11] this tournament and they've been I would argue to be the most consistent team at
[01:12:15] the tournament overall so on some level can't be that surprised but to the level
[01:12:19] like 30 to 3 I don't think we're gonna see that again this is I hope we don't
[01:12:24] see her same absolutely the same this was I think the biggest stomp we've seen
[01:12:31] on this stage thus far wow and there's also not entirely one of our souls but
[01:12:38] my panelist I mean with BSJN7 and I was I was once coming even came it was gonna
[01:12:43] I mean, 50-50, wow!
[01:12:45] I mean, I was pretty hopeful for the drafts, but I think what we mentioned, the execution in the laning phase and what happened after the laning phase, they knew they were going to be walking a thin line and I think they definitely slipped.
[01:12:59] Like there were a few moments where you're like, okay, the test is coming, you know, can they weather the storm?
[01:13:04] Can they like dodge this fight? And I think they didn't like obviously massive props BB team
[01:13:10] I think they played a stellar game. It was pretty much perfection from
[01:13:14] landing face execution to applying pressure to rotations. They played extremely fast deadly deadly moves
[01:13:21] But I also feel like Vici gaming like I don't know. I don't know if you if you agree with that Brian like
[01:13:26] there were moments where you're like
[01:13:29] Maybe they're not warmed up or something, like it's not a little bit sloppy at times.
[01:13:33] Yeah, I mean, I always try to teeter along the lines of explanations versus excuses.
[01:13:39] There is no excuse to, I think, show up like that for Vici Gaming, and I think, for me
[01:13:44] at least, there's a level of disappointment because of how well they've been playing throughout
[01:13:47] the last couple days.
[01:13:48] They did show signs of what we just saw in the group stage, and that was why I thought
[01:13:52] they might go out a bit earlier, but then all of a sudden the vibe seemed there, the
[01:13:55] execution was there against top tier teams.
[01:13:57] is not like they haven't been tested
[01:13:59] throughout the course of this playoffs,
[01:14:01] but that probably also makes me want to tip my hat
[01:14:03] to BB Team for they've done this to other teams as well.
[01:14:07] So there must be something special about that.
[01:14:09] I think for a game like this to happen in a series
[01:14:12] of with two teams of this caliber,
[01:14:14] one team does have to step up
[01:14:15] while the other team has to step down,
[01:14:17] at least a little bit on both directions.
[01:14:19] And I do think, man, that was a clean game from BB Team.
[01:14:23] And you know, it might be a bit surprising, but it doesn't worry me as much as a fair loss would have worried me.
[01:14:33] I'm not saying this was unfair, but it's like they didn't get to play the game.
[01:14:35] Like there was a point where after they made several mistakes in a row, the game is literally unplayable.
[01:14:41] I feel like at this point it's like you need the team to make a mistake or to overplay their hand,
[01:14:45] which we know is this is not the team to do it.
[01:14:48] Like this team knows exactly what the limits are, like they pushed the aggression exactly to the point where it's supposed to be pushed and they don't take the single support like beyond that line.
[01:14:58] So in that sense, I feel like Vici at some point, it was just too much and the game was going in a direction that they couldn't stop anymore.
[01:15:05] So like, I wouldn't call them out for game two is what I'm trying to say.
[01:15:10] A flawless game for BBT on the other side.
[01:15:14] I do want to, I mean, okay, we can be critical on Vici Gaming, of course,
[01:15:17] because we are expecting a higher level of play than what we saw.
[01:15:21] But the reason it was this one-sided is because BBteam,
[01:15:26] they don't make mistakes.
[01:15:27] They don't allow you to come back once they got a good lead like that.
[01:15:30] And especially not with the draft they had as well.
[01:15:32] And I think that just has to credit how well they were playing, right?
[01:15:37] Any player in particular you'd like to highlight?
[01:15:39] I want to highlight Save, especially.
[01:15:40] We were talking about like this the pace of
[01:15:43] BB team's draft Slardar wants to farm it up. Huck wants to farm it up
[01:15:47] They all loaned Druid especially wants to farm it up all three of these heroes need a little bit of time to come online
[01:15:51] And yeah as the casters were reading off those stat lines nine and no on a support
[01:15:55] Who'd wink it felt like he was a part of all so many of the crucial
[01:15:58] engagements and like the early to mid game that allowed BB team to snowball and
[01:16:02] There's just something about players like save that are just always in the right place at the right time and hoodwinks
[01:16:06] an example of a hero that yeah she has burst kill potential but she's so much
[01:16:10] about catching people off guard flanking them and and there are a lot of
[01:16:14] instances of that in this game and hats off to him but yeah obviously the rest of
[01:16:18] BB team performed great as well. Yeah they really did now we talked about how
[01:16:22] Vici Gaming underperformed BB team incredibly strong we've got examples of
[01:16:28] both of those situations starting with the the unfortunate underperformance for
[01:16:33] VT Gaming, I believe.
[01:16:35] Yeah, so we were talking about it before the game started,
[01:16:38] but this is a clip of VT Gaming basically making
[01:16:41] the type of mistakes that we can't afford to make
[01:16:43] in a series like this.
[01:16:44] So they get the curse off really nicely
[01:16:47] where the lone jerk bear is going to be hitting GPK,
[01:16:49] but then right after, block Roars,
[01:16:51] which then not only layers the stuns,
[01:16:53] but also knocked the bear back
[01:16:55] so that it wasn't attacking and killing GPK.
[01:16:57] This is only a 3K lead at 13 minutes.
[01:16:59] We've seen plenty of games stall out from this moment
[01:17:02] and the team can level it out,
[01:17:03] So that did not happen in this game because it was red as you showed.
[01:17:06] I think like this was a kill on Puff Flake.
[01:17:07] Honestly, it would have been the biggest kill they got the entire game.
[01:17:10] Yeah, it would have been like step one to making this a much more even game.
[01:17:13] And then you mentioned like stepping it up for for BB team.
[01:17:17] This is one of the coolest plays that I've seen throughout this entire tournament.
[01:17:21] So as we're going to get to the Roshan, I'm going to pause in just a second here
[01:17:25] because it takes a second.
[01:17:26] Okay. So at this moment, every team in the world has like this idea of when
[01:17:32] the enemy kills Roshan, they're then going to be traveling across the map and looking
[01:17:35] to kill us afterwards, but BB Team's going to do something really cool where they're
[01:17:39] going to pause, they're going to have Miro leave, and then Kiritich is going to wait
[01:17:44] to kill Rosh. He's literally just afk'ing, so in their head, BG's like, oh, they haven't
[01:17:48] left the Rosh pit yet, but no, save has already left, Miro's already on his way, and Shiro
[01:17:53] then gets caught out of position. So for me, this was just such a small but like cool idea
[01:17:58] that I've never witnessed the intentional stalling of killing Roshan and it those type of plays
[01:18:03] are them stepping it up where that creativity and that sort of situation is quite unmatched.
[01:18:08] Yeah that's the team that's vibing. I think these are signs of like a team that is just like so
[01:18:13] like on you know sink to each other's where like it's it's it's really quick it's like hey
[01:18:18] you know like what you know second wave you know we were not ready to catch they stopped the
[01:18:21] pause the road they killed save is using chat wheels you know because he's also feeling
[01:18:26] It's the kind of play that leaves you feeling really good.
[01:18:28] It's like, oh, we're really out of our game right now.
[01:18:30] And yeah, you see the difference between them
[01:18:32] and Vici Gaming in that game one where like things that usually
[01:18:36] should be executed properly and that they have executed better
[01:18:40] than average, like they have been, you know, stellar
[01:18:42] with their pace yesterday.
[01:18:44] We're all start to the day, you know, warm up day,
[01:18:47] what's your face kind of situation?
[01:18:48] I don't know.
[01:18:49] But this is this is definitely the it can happen.
[01:18:53] You know, they're going to pay the price
[01:18:55] of now being put back against the wall, one game away from getting knocked out, but they
[01:19:01] kind of did this to themselves.
[01:19:02] Yeah, I wonder if it also changes in our perception when we see VG gaming overlapping stuns is
[01:19:10] like it's a base level mistake, right?
[01:19:13] There is on one side, if you're going to try to play better, it's the little things that
[01:19:17] you do right, meaning I don't overlap stuns, you know, it's a basic concept.
[01:19:20] Whereas on the other side, the example that you gave right is the little things not just
[01:19:24] done right, but done methodical and very promising. The difference in the one mistake versus the
[01:19:31] one good play feels very large. And I wonder if that worries us or should worry us.
[01:19:39] Yeah, I mean, I am worried in the sense that, you know, the point of showing those clips
[01:19:43] wasn't like, VG gaming bad, BB team good, it's meant to like, it does give you a glimpse
[01:19:47] into the mindset. Like you said that you have to be a team that's vibing. If you make a
[01:19:51] to play like BB Team did at the Rochefit.
[01:19:53] I also think you have to be a team that's a little bit nervous,
[01:19:56] a little bit chaotic in the comms
[01:19:58] to make the overlapping of stones that they did.
[01:20:00] And I think that tells a pretty telltale story
[01:20:04] of that game as a whole, just in those two points.
[01:20:06] I mean, to me it's like showing the misplays
[01:20:09] and I would even maybe show the misplays
[01:20:11] to my own teammates with a smile in a sense.
[01:20:14] Cause like, it's just to realize,
[01:20:16] hey, like this game doesn't count.
[01:20:17] You know what I mean?
[01:20:18] It's like, if we're not able to kill heroes,
[01:20:20] we're supposed to kill.
[01:20:20] create that situation, we're clicking our spells wrong, and the heroes aren't dying.
[01:20:24] Well, it's just an off-game and it happens, it's like, why would you keep that game on
[01:20:28] your mind going into game two instead of keeping the series versus Falcons, the series versus
[01:20:33] 1W because I can promise you that to knock out both these teams, they had to make not
[01:20:38] only just stable plays, they had to make exceptional plays.
[01:20:41] So in that sense, you know, an off-game, it can happen.
[01:20:44] You know, it's behind you now, just move on, reset, remember how good you are, what brought
[01:20:47] you're here in the first place and you'll get ready for game two simple stuff. Yeah I'm really
[01:20:51] hoping that is indeed an off game not an off day and we'll see if VG gaming can strike back in
[01:20:57] game two of this best of three in the semi-finals so it is incredibly important to be the team of
[01:21:02] course one step closer to those grand finals tomorrow. Before we get to game two though we
[01:21:07] are gonna check in with a couple of players who are doing the Remco power rankings.
[01:21:17] Hello, everyone. This is Seb. I'm joined with BGM and RE. There's been many, many rosters in OG.
[01:21:42] It became a joke at this point. We're going to remind ourselves some of them and we are going to
[01:21:46] Rate them on the tier list.
[01:21:48] I suggest we pick one of them up and we'll say who's on that team and we rate.
[01:21:54] What is that?
[01:21:54] TI 2021 or GIMP?
[01:21:57] I remember that!
[01:21:58] Okay, okay. What rating would you give this one?
[01:22:00] I would give it an A.
[01:22:01] You would give it an A.
[01:22:03] They were closest to beating King Spirit.
[01:22:04] We were 15K lead on them.
[01:22:06] And they had the same strats.
[01:22:08] B is fine, yeah.
[01:22:09] You agree with B?
[01:22:10] Let's agree on D.
[01:22:11] Yeah, he's fine.
[01:22:12] Another one.
[01:22:13] Are you shooting?
[01:22:14] EWC 2026 OG, well, what do you guys think?
[01:22:19] I mean, they can't hold the group, so they cannot be hyped.
[01:22:22] I do think the potential, if I had to rate the potential, I think it could be B, I think it could be A.
[01:22:28] Wow, C or D?
[01:22:29] We can do C. Results matter. No result today.
[01:22:34] OG, OG.
[01:22:35] Okay, OG.
[01:22:36] 12 minutes on the end.
[01:22:37] Moon meander, Miracle.
[01:22:38] Miracle, No-tail, Moon meander, Crit and Fly.
[01:22:41] the Frankster Major winners.
[01:22:44] Please say.
[01:22:45] There will be an A.
[01:22:46] Of course.
[01:22:47] One more.
[01:22:48] TI7 OG.
[01:22:49] I would put them lower only because they're comparing, they're competing against me.
[01:22:55] So they go on A. One tier below.
[01:22:58] That's it.
[01:22:59] Wait.
[01:23:00] 2020 OG?
[01:23:01] What was that even?
[01:23:02] That one was Zaxa?
[01:23:03] Midland, Topson, SEP, Zaxa.
[01:23:05] Okay, that's the LA Major.
[01:23:07] I'll give it a C.
[01:23:09] I'll pick.
[01:23:10] 2024?
[01:23:12] That's ours.
[01:23:13] Of course we don't have any wins to our name, but I do think we're better than the ones below us.
[01:23:17] You know what? You know what?
[01:23:19] I'll put us above. It's the three of us. What are they going to say anyway?
[01:23:22] They're refired. They're washed. Nobody cares.
[01:23:24] 2035.
[01:23:26] Name the roster.
[01:23:28] That's your choice.
[01:23:30] We have a chat.
[01:23:32] Make some base guitar.
[01:23:34] Make some base guitar.
[01:23:36] Next.
[01:23:38] It's a very happy Rada one.
[01:23:41] 2022!
[01:23:43] So, EuroGbzm, Flaga...
[01:23:46] ATF Misha.
[01:23:47] ATF Misha, yeah, that's a good one.
[01:23:48] And you stood in to one of the wins.
[01:23:50] Yeah, I stood in.
[01:23:51] But it was like roster.
[01:23:52] You won two tournaments.
[01:23:53] Yeah, you did.
[01:23:54] So, you have to wait quite highly for the two wins.
[01:23:56] I think I've read before.
[01:23:57] You won, you got two wins.
[01:23:58] We're missing two.
[01:23:59] Just for the split.
[01:24:00] So, won't you say this was the strongest penalty roster or it just got the best results
[01:24:07] when it counted?
[01:24:08] No, in TI8, this roster was stronger and this roster was stronger, but this roster was more fit for pressure, in a sense, but TI9 was not enough.
[01:24:17] It was just the best roster.
[01:24:18] The roster was pretty severe.
[01:24:20] Last one.
[01:24:21] 2023.
[01:24:23] We had not a specific date.
[01:24:24] We had not a specific date.
[01:24:25] We had nothing.
[01:24:26] The only result we had was that we had nothing.
[01:24:27] We don't think so.
[01:24:28] It's a date.
[01:24:29] Come on.
[01:24:30] We just put it.
[01:24:31] You guys describe it like very badly.
[01:24:33] It was.
[01:24:34] It was a really rough one.
[01:24:35] It was really good.
[01:24:36] It's too hard, so I'll do this.
[01:24:39] This is quite balanced.
[01:24:41] I think this looks fine.
[01:24:43] Great job, BGM, thank you.
[01:24:46] Pleasure working with you, as usual.
[01:24:49] That was it from us. Hope you agree.
[01:24:52] And if you don't, well, I mean, not much I can do about it.
[01:24:55] Bye-bye.
[01:25:06] Rather than wine, you're a gun.
[01:25:36] We were there for every click, every clutch, every respawn.
[01:25:46] We were there for the years of grind, and we're here now, the proud founding partner
[01:25:52] of EWC, powering the biggest event in gaming, shoulder to shoulder with the world's best,
[01:25:58] making history.
[01:26:00] Sweetness deserves a stage.
[01:26:02] Lenovo Legion, reach your impossible.
[01:26:18] Vici Gaming vs BB Team game 2 coming your way.
[01:26:23] and we've seen VG Gaming as one of the teams that has made large adaptations from the group stage
[01:26:28] onto this semi-finals but they need to adapt more now than ever as that first game was not close.
[01:26:36] BB Team ran away with that one and we're about to get into the drafts of Game 2 and there's one
[01:26:42] elephant in the room that I must address because both my panelists said, well you know what,
[01:26:47] I mean, I deserve to be called out. I disrespected the hero, but I'll stand my ground, Shiva.
[01:27:01] You know what? I'll stand my ground. I still believe Laundroid is, you know...
[01:27:06] Yes!
[01:27:07] This one is hard, huh? Maybe I should have backed off, actually. I'll reflect on that
[01:27:13] for tomorrow, but for today I'll stand my ground. I do believe Laundry will not be the, you
[01:27:18] know, highly part of the first, you know, line of contested heroes for the Grand Finals,
[01:27:25] but we'll have to see it look absolutely dominant in Game 1. Maybe I am completely wrong. I
[01:27:31] would be surprised if they don't readjust it for that game, though, because it must have
[01:27:36] felt that bad to play that game, that you just want to play another game no matter what.
[01:27:40] Yeah, when I was looking at the draft, like, obviously the London undying lane is about as scary as it gets, the undies and the SFs and all that kind of stuff, but
[01:27:49] the thing for me is, I think that slaughter pick was relatively genius from BB Team when there's been times.
[01:27:55] I think it's really important to note that there's times where people block pick, and we saw that yesterday from Nigma Galaxy where they block picked BB Team with a puck,
[01:28:03] because they didn't want GBK to get it on last pick, but they picked the puck into a shaman.
[01:28:06] So you're block picking in order, you're making the sacrifice of
[01:28:10] basically picking a hero into counters in order to not get it picked against you.
[01:28:14] But they also had Slardar into clinks, which is a very good matchup for Slardar.
[01:28:17] So you're simultaneously block picking while also counter picking at the same time.
[01:28:21] And I just think those sort of things will absolutely win you drafts on top of execution.
[01:28:26] I think the drafts were relatively even, but that was for me the highlight strategically
[01:28:30] Did it feel to you that Necro was like concert enough for Vici or do you feel like they were
[01:28:37] you know maybe like going for it because it made sense but didn't feel you know good playing the hero?
[01:28:43] It was really tough to say because that one rotation at the seven minute wisdom shine where he dies like
[01:28:50] we talked about Necro being a vacuum of pressure in the mid lane and literally one play like that can
[01:28:56] and nullify that entire presence that you have.
[01:28:59] Suddenly, GPK is like even with you on net worth.
[01:29:02] And so is that an individual mistake from XM?
[01:29:05] Is that a team misunderstanding of Necro?
[01:29:07] It's hard to say for sure.
[01:29:08] Like if it's just an individual mistake to learn from,
[01:29:11] that's fine.
[01:29:11] But if it is like a team thing,
[01:29:12] then I think it did look a bit off,
[01:29:14] I guess would be my answer to your question.
[01:29:16] But I do think that one mistake says a lot
[01:29:19] about their understanding of the hero as well.
[01:29:21] Yeah.
[01:29:22] Did you give me Necro back for something, you know,
[01:29:24] that brought them a lot of success yesterday?
[01:29:25] obviously in the cuddle, most likely to be played by ZinQ and BV, I mean, they just, you know, keep, yeah, keep on the, like, keep on the undying train, like, they remain there.
[01:29:35] This hero has been incredibly successful. Like, every game we've watched it, I don't think there's a single game where we were like, yeah, you know, this undying really got countered and it, because there were metas where undying could also just be a burden.
[01:29:46] like it just does nothing, sometimes you would even lose its lane and then you're just there and
[01:29:51] all you do is just like front lining, dying, you know, eventually getting the tombstone off,
[01:29:56] it feels like a completely different hero right now, it's just so hard to deal with,
[01:30:01] like it starts with the laning phase, the early game presence, we've seen, you know,
[01:30:04] wisdom fights with tombstone, like Malady is probably the specialist of this one,
[01:30:09] and everything, it gives you rush also, it gives you like objectives with the
[01:30:13] with the Feshkole, this hero is just incredibly strong right now and I'm hoping that Vici Gaming
[01:30:19] will just put enough respect on it.
[01:30:21] How important is it to have a Tombstone hitter when you're up against Undyne, even if it
[01:30:26] is a plus five?
[01:30:27] I think it's crucial.
[01:30:28] I think it's one of these heroes like Phoenix for instance, it's like you just can't ignore
[01:30:33] that spell.
[01:30:34] You just can't pretend it's not just another spell, especially now that they're willing
[01:30:38] to buy the shard early and abuse the save which I think is like one of the best shards
[01:30:43] like in the game. So in that sense I think you always need to have the tungsten hitter.
[01:30:49] You also need to be able to take down the sundying you know for free we would say in
[01:30:55] a sense like without using key resources because he's not a core hero but you know we heard
[01:31:00] players complain about playing versus undying like we have to deal with four core heroes
[01:31:04] because that's how it feels at times like he's just standing there in the front and
[01:31:08] And you feel like you need to click spells on him, but you don't want to use Necrolty,
[01:31:11] for instance.
[01:31:12] You don't want to use certain items or abilities.
[01:31:15] So it's tricky.
[01:31:16] Yeah, there's usually two options, or I'd say three options for him dying.
[01:31:21] Is one is obviously be able to kill the Tombstone.
[01:31:23] Two is be able to force out defensive spells without committing.
[01:31:27] Like heroes like Hurozak could win are a great example where you represent a lot of long
[01:31:30] range burst that might need to be saved from before they even go in.
[01:31:34] And then you also have heroes like Storm Spirit that can go on the target and then easily disengage
[01:31:38] and that's what I think they were going for, is this poke and prod disengage strategy.
[01:31:43] And then when you look at the counter from BB Team, I think it addresses that near flawlessly.
[01:31:49] You have the Shadow Shaman that they already picked for save yesterday.
[01:31:53] The best is like him and Lion are the two best support disablers against the Spirit heroes.
[01:31:58] And then Ember Spirit also one of the hardest heroes to disengage from.
[01:32:02] It's like if I'm Storm Spirit and I'm thinking my job is to force out a reaction and then disengage
[01:32:06] What item am I fine?
[01:32:07] Like I think BKB is the only one that addresses both of these some storms in the past feel like they have to go for grieves against
[01:32:14] the Ember Spirit in order to dispel the chains and the spirit vessel in the mage slayer, but in this case
[01:32:20] I think already there. I mean a storm has not had good results so far this tournament XM
[01:32:25] signature hero for him for sure
[01:32:27] And also now you have like the terror blade that hits the tomb
[01:32:30] But just something about this draft like obviously maybe it's a bit of bias coming from game one
[01:32:34] But something feels like BB has the better answers thus far. What do you think so?
[01:32:38] I mean, yeah, I see where you're coming from
[01:32:40] They they have some incredible heroes like you mentioned it like the Rasta versus storm
[01:32:45] There's the great synergy also between Ember and Largo. We've seen that combo really decimate like teamfights. It's it's it's it's amazing
[01:32:53] But you know, I'm a cuddle fan at heart and like cuddle storm is still like a menace in the early game like this and dying this rasta like
[01:33:03] like
[01:33:04] Where they can walk on the map is going to be so restricted
[01:33:07] It's like the second year like a little bit too far away from a tower or like slightly opposite
[01:33:12] You just that to storm like you need your amber to be with you and hug you all the time to protect you
[01:33:16] There's also the call of TV which I think is like one of the strongest call of combos like metas in the mid game made us gonna be up
[01:33:22] all the time like there's gonna be no downtime this TV is like acceleration and
[01:33:27] the farm is just gonna skyrocket because of a shaker magic TV elues like
[01:33:32] everywhere on the map shoving every wave into you with the threat of storm
[01:33:36] hoodwing attacking you and making you pay for trying to deep push wave so I
[01:33:40] think the Vici gaming draft again like so far I've been a big fan of older draft
[01:33:44] even though you know sometimes didn't really pay off like I see where they're
[01:33:47] heading with this one too and it's quite interesting you talked about tombstone
[01:33:51] One hitter, TV is definitely one, you think of TV, Manta, he's just hitting down everything
[01:33:56] that's close to him, so this Undying will just explode and the Tombstone will die, we'll
[01:34:01] get taken down Tombstone.
[01:34:03] But again, you mentioned it Brian, they have this early game presence on BV and they can
[01:34:08] cause a lot of issues and could it be a repeat of game one?
[01:34:14] It's not impossible if you look at the heroes.
[01:34:17] It wasn't really up to the heroes in the previous game though per se, right?
[01:34:21] It was also a lot of outplay.
[01:34:23] It was, but you kinda need to have the tools to push your advantage in a sense.
[01:34:30] And I feel like they have it this time around again, like this Ember, Lorco, on dying, line
[01:34:35] up, it can accelerate really fast.
[01:34:38] What do we make of this Nightstalk overall last pick?
[01:34:40] I believe we've mostly seen it as an answer to the puck.
[01:34:43] Is it as strong of an answer to the Shadow Shaman Ember?
[01:34:46] But it'll definitely make Shadow of Shaman's job a lot harder, he is a support that relies
[01:34:51] on catching somebody and then the difference between him and Lion is that he's channeling
[01:34:55] his long disable.
[01:34:57] So I see what they're going for with it, it is blind and to Kira titches hero, you're
[01:35:01] also against an undying off lane, you're probably going to play some lane shenanigans, I think
[01:35:04] the cool thing about it is that once 5 minutes hits, you're probably not going to have too
[01:35:08] bad of a start, like you're probably going to lose the first 5 minutes for sure, but
[01:35:12] then you're going to be relatively self-sufficient because most undying lanes operate on chase
[01:35:15] potential and obviously Nightstalker one of the most innately fastest heroes in the game once night time hits I
[01:35:21] I'm wondering if he goes for like the carry to carry matchup counter like a phantom lancer for instance for keratich
[01:35:26] Or if he's gonna go more like shut down the Nightstalker and play out the momentum that they're already representing any other lanes
[01:35:31] Do you have a preferred approach?
[01:35:33] So I'm just I think he's it's very okay
[01:35:36] He goes for something a little bit more active I guess with the win ranger
[01:35:38] Which also is considered like a good matchup against DB it until a point anyway like you just have
[01:35:45] have an overwhelming amount of magic damage and just take down the TV, especially with
[01:35:48] the help of Largo and Dying. They have so much sustain and save on the DV side. I like
[01:35:54] the Night Soccer pick. I think it's energized really well with the Ditches lineup. I'm just
[01:35:58] afraid of the match-up which is on Dying because on Dying has always been considered one of
[01:36:02] the best Night Soccer corners in the game because of the Night Vision you get from
[01:36:06] Tombstone and all of a sudden there's like zombies everywhere, every hero you can keep
[01:36:10] track of everybody. I also think that even though Night Soccer is in a great place as
[01:36:14] as a hero there's like this essence distiller item which I think ruins Night Stalker's
[01:36:20] game completely. Essentially they also have your vision, like the night vision for 8 seconds
[01:36:25] which is very unfortunate that you and Ennis enjoy it. So we'll have to see, I think it's
[01:36:30] a risky pick, like it makes a lot of sense, it could work but it's brave.
[01:36:37] Ooh, it's brave.
[01:36:39] That is a
[01:36:41] Not really a convincing answer. Let's put it that way. I mean bravery is good. No, is it true?
[01:36:46] It's worked out for them like with the Slark thing yesterday and stuff like this
[01:36:49] I mean, I think we the sad reality for me at least is I think there's potential of a rerun of game one like the snowball
[01:36:58] Effect of BBD teams draft is immense based on the heroes that they have they have very similarly paced lineup, but
[01:37:04] But if Vici can get past that first 10 minutes on even footing, I think they have a lot of
[01:37:10] good map play.
[01:37:11] They have the vision game from Nightstalker.
[01:37:12] And I'll just give a shout out.
[01:37:13] The Tombstone Night Vision got nerfed a little bit at some point.
[01:37:16] So it's not at least, maybe the essence of the distiller still counters you, but at
[01:37:19] least you have the vision.
[01:37:21] I hope you have the vision advantage coming from Vici, because then the storm can also
[01:37:24] jump.
[01:37:25] And at the end of the day, I'm a Vici fan right now because I want a game three in this
[01:37:28] playoff sheet.
[01:37:29] And they're yet to have one.
[01:37:30] I mean, I don't believe it. You know you go back to the TI finals
[01:37:34] You know the wash your face meme is like it started off this way and they brought it to game 5 and it was incredibly close. So
[01:37:40] I think you got this we all want to believe but let's find out if beachy gaming ski will still be in one piece at the end of
[01:37:47] This one or if baby will be allowed to rush it. We're heading over to a commentary duo of Sunspot and kesin
[01:37:56] Yo, yo, yo Sunspot in the house with
[01:38:00] That was not a good game one. We're just gonna be straight with you here
[01:38:04] I want to know is that Vici gaming's worst loss?
[01:38:07] Have they had a loss with three or less kills before I will check that out for you with our Lenovo Legion
[01:38:13] Channel, which is important to note. Let me check that out. WWW does stupid stats Sunsphun asks for they have never in their history
[01:38:21] Lost this badly. I've always had either four kills or more. So Gg get 33 minutes with three kills
[01:38:27] And I'm expecting a better game this summer. Oh, it literally has to be unless
[01:38:33] It's not a given. Hey, I think it is. We're gonna see a better game number to hear between beachy gaming and
[01:38:39] BB team
[01:38:41] And remember whoever wins this series goes to the grand finals loser
[01:38:46] Goes to the third place this cider
[01:38:49] Yeah, nobody wants to be there. No, that's the toilet will match. We'll be casting that so it's gonna be a perfect
[01:38:55] Perfect for us, perfect cast, just right down our alley.
[01:38:59] But the thing is, you don't want to be in that position, you want to punch back here, if you're Vici.
[01:39:04] I am a little surprised that they let Kazeomi have Undying again,
[01:39:09] for I don't know how many times this guy has played the zombie in this tournament,
[01:39:13] but he does seem like one of the best Undying players.
[01:39:16] Yeah, it has been quite solid and it's been a big move with the Wisdom Shrine.
[01:39:22] It feels like every single time it's this hero, regardless of the team.
[01:39:26] It's for Malady's script, absolutely.
[01:39:27] Minute 7 execute, walk to the Wisdom Shrine.
[01:39:29] Malady started it and, well, Kat only trying to finish it here, at least for this series.
[01:39:35] On the endine, we're going to see some new picks, though.
[01:39:37] We see Mierell picking up the Largo.
[01:39:39] He's been, I want to say, one of the most consistent Largos in, I mean, since the hero's
[01:39:44] been in captain's mode, I feel like I rarely see him have a poor game.
[01:39:48] GPK on the Ember Spirit, and Keratich on the Windrunner as the carry.
[01:39:52] Both teams have a very good draft. I would assume that what Vici are going for this and around.
[01:39:56] So I like Caudal against Undying. You can kind of split the lane, right?
[01:40:00] You can always just push. Undying wants to run you down.
[01:40:02] Your super high movement speed, yourself, with the Caudal.
[01:40:05] And Caudal drafts generally don't play on high commit, right?
[01:40:08] Like what Undying is very good against, he's a very good teamfighter with the Tombstone.
[01:40:11] If you commit, he saves. But Caudal has a lot of heals. He's very fast.
[01:40:15] You can like maybe bait the tombstone maybe go on someone, you know back up your song with mana and keep going
[01:40:20] So I like their approach here Jim Q though
[01:40:22] He's taking a lot of decay damage and the right clicks from characters. That's first blood already going away of BB team
[01:40:29] Another good start for them and they're against Bok on the nice stock
[01:40:32] Which is for me the topic of discussion
[01:40:34] Yeah, because not to sound like a broken record this hero is either
[01:40:38] Setting the tempo and getting you off to a good mid game or it's just trash the whole game
[01:40:44] Yeah, which are we going to see?
[01:40:46] I hope that we're going to see a good game, the good thing for them is so, and how Vici have won games in the past couple of days.
[01:40:53] It's like early aggression and very good map play, right?
[01:40:55] When you have Night Soccer, you have crazy vision in the mid game, TB fixes your lanes, and Caudo deals with your cooldowns.
[01:41:01] And there's also a world, I think, where Night Soccer can build like a somewhat earlier shard in the mid game.
[01:41:05] If you get Chakra Magic, you have like double AoE on your void, which is quite good.
[01:41:10] But yes, definitely a hero that can be shot down early on
[01:41:14] Where would you rate the caudal pick versus other games?
[01:41:17] You usually see a coupled with like a beast master. You talked about the void. It's okay
[01:41:22] Swarm scare obviously quite decent just to get the mana back and then metamorphosis
[01:41:26] Which is essentially his ultimate but not an actual I still think it's very good, right?
[01:41:30] You're playing with storm and with TV
[01:41:32] So you have two very good matchups there and see that XM is taking a lot of pressure this time around doing a lot better
[01:41:37] though when it comes to the CS. Currently having a slight lead here under the nice,
[01:41:41] Shiro. See the shackle onto Shiro taking a ton of damage as Miro can't quite finish it. Nice
[01:41:48] pushback coming out from Y. Shiro obviously with, I mean this hero picked because of the high armor
[01:41:54] game that you're going to have throughout the entire game but magic damage is a pretty damaged
[01:41:57] counter and look at their life. Do you think that they have enough to burn through this guy?
[01:42:02] Windranger has a lot of magic damage quite early on, right, once you have, like, Maelstrom or later with some Njolnir BKB.
[01:42:08] Also, Ember Largo is a crazy good combo. Also need to remember that Largo amplifies a lot of magic damage, which is very good against TB, towards, like, especially in the midgame.
[01:42:18] So we'll have to see what Shiro can get, because later you will need an MKB this game to deal with this Curricage Windranger.
[01:42:25] It looks like BB Team will get both lotuses on each respective side of the map.
[01:42:29] Well this bottom lane is quite a disaster. I do think that is a adequate
[01:42:35] description currently. They picked Nightstalker very late in the draft knowing
[01:42:38] that you're gonna go against Undyne which feels just bad. I guess there's
[01:42:42] something else I'm missing here. So the thing is that obviously Night it is you
[01:42:45] don't have fastness anymore. You don't choose that it's nighttime to start the
[01:42:48] game and save just taking a little bit of pressure. So you were supposed to lose
[01:42:51] in the first five minutes. It's okay. The problem is there's a difference in
[01:42:54] losing and then there's getting demolished and this currently is a little
[01:42:59] it over the top as of course also Kiritich had the first blood as the
[01:43:03] art pressuring box. Yeah it's off the crippling fear as he runs scurries behind
[01:43:08] the tier one tower so only 8 CS to his name thus far which GenQ you can see is
[01:43:13] almost the same in this lane. We'll need to see how they go about it because
[01:43:17] Nightseeker will always give you a lot in the mid game if you have other cores
[01:43:21] that you can play around you're still very useful right with the silence and
[01:43:25] The overall vision you're giving.
[01:43:27] This feels so bad for Faith Beyond, although Creeps are gonna be under his tier one soon.
[01:43:34] And they're gonna be softened up by this Illuminate.
[01:43:36] That's still a lot of the nice. This is another couple of CS at ease.
[01:43:39] Cause when you get nice, like when you play Nightstalk and it hits early night time,
[01:43:42] you wanna be like kind of close to your face boots or like have some double bracer,
[01:43:46] but he only is getting his boots and he's on low HP.
[01:43:49] Axem making slow damage here on the GPK, although Axem is the one taking the front of it.
[01:43:54] Nice pushback rotation coming out from wide to slide up this one, GPK is now on the run,
[01:43:59] getting slowed to a crawl though and that's gonna be enough.
[01:44:01] Gen Q getting the kill there.
[01:44:04] But that means Bok all alone, which means that Katomi can just go absolute ham on him.
[01:44:09] Another decay to this name and should be able to finish it off with another.
[01:44:13] If you actually dive here, yeah, power shot from afar, Kira gets beautiful aim.
[01:44:19] And that's just putting more pressure on Vade to be on to try to get back in this game.
[01:44:24] It is night time now, so hopefully for his sake he can
[01:44:28] Try to stabilize his game, but this is an atrocious start
[01:44:31] Yeah, they can look for a bit of counter pressure now potentially think you though very aggressive to kill the court
[01:44:36] He's just dead straight up dead tombstone place from Katoumi, so faith beyond gonna get some solo XP, but
[01:44:45] See how much he can do with this night time being on his side now. I actually wish that the facet
[01:44:49] But, uh, I hope we just started with night time, yeah.
[01:44:53] Yeah, maybe, like...
[01:44:54] Oh, that's big.
[01:44:55] He gets the Tombstone.
[01:44:56] Yeah, definitely big recovery.
[01:44:57] But, I have to say, that the battle bots in the bottom lane are getting way too much.
[01:45:01] Like, some of the kills they're getting.
[01:45:02] It also means, again, when you have such good a laning stage, you're undying, can move around.
[01:45:06] You can also look into the triangle.
[01:45:07] You're playing against a Caudo.
[01:45:08] You're gonna have a Tombstone later, you can potentially aggress into the triangle as
[01:45:12] well.
[01:45:13] Xen, even with the help they give him, he's not level 6 yet.
[01:45:15] Right into the TP, they get the Hex into the Shackle, is there enough damage with the
[01:45:19] The decay, not quite, searing changes there, and the remnants actually are enough as XM
[01:45:24] still not leveled.
[01:45:25] He was literally one creep from six, and that would have been enough for him to get away
[01:45:29] surely, but instead, he has to make the walk back of shame.
[01:45:34] That is rough in the mid lane.
[01:45:35] Yeah, and not just that, look what GBK is throwing on the minimap.
[01:45:38] Six minute active rune on the haste, you have Undying, you know, the script at minute seven
[01:45:42] is going to be executed on the Wisdom Shrine, and Storm, he will not have a TP.
[01:45:46] It will be up like 5-10 seconds after the whistle shrine is available.
[01:45:50] Can you ask for a better game on the Ember? You're getting kills, you're getting first to Groom,
[01:45:54] and now you're dragging a wave into a double stack.
[01:45:56] Yeah, this is dirty.
[01:45:59] Bleeding blisters are off to yet another good start in this game, number two.
[01:46:04] Nature, you're gonna have to find a way to somewhat stabilize, or else they're gonna find themselves in similar position to the last game.
[01:46:10] They're looking for their own pressure, so now it's important how do the BB squad react to this.
[01:46:14] Because if you know that Katomi will take the bottom WS on his own, you can TP everyone to the top side.
[01:46:19] Yep, and they are attempting to contest as Miero inside, he's gonna end up getting it for free.
[01:46:26] And Katomi gets the other one, so yet another game where BB Team get both Wisdom Shrines and Beachy.
[01:46:33] I mean, you can't even blame them, you have an off laner. What is Nightstalker supposed to do in a Wisdom Shrine fight?
[01:46:38] He has to get back and get a comp.
[01:46:41] You definitely need to find a way to like maybe have what like you want to
[01:46:45] aggress on one side and once you can kind of see the idea of where are they
[01:46:49] bringing which type of fears to find an outnumbering because you are now gonna
[01:46:53] like levels on both your supports and both storm and Naiso because they don't
[01:46:56] have the most damage on themselves they need who doing level six they need
[01:47:00] caught a level six so this is very very big here for the BB squad and are we
[01:47:07] looking at similar situation when it comes to the Roche it looks like a
[01:47:10] a worse lineup by a long shot than last game.
[01:47:14] It's still on BB's favor, right?
[01:47:16] Undying will nearly like,
[01:47:17] undying and slaughter some of my favorite role shaking heroes.
[01:47:19] Of course, with like Ursa,
[01:47:21] Windranger also quite good with the Maelstrom.
[01:47:23] And GPK actually gets the regen room, man.
[01:47:25] His timing is impeccable,
[01:47:28] and bulbous bison still,
[01:47:30] able to get all these little trades left and right.
[01:47:33] They are at least doing a very good job
[01:47:34] when it comes to Shiro's net worth.
[01:47:36] And honestly, the scaling for Vici is not weak at all.
[01:47:38] I can see TB, you know, be the big guy in this game.
[01:47:42] If later on you get to stand your ground with like an MKB
[01:47:45] and hit into the Windranger,
[01:47:46] you will of course do very, very well
[01:47:48] and you have a Cotto to back you up.
[01:47:49] You're gonna have the vision from the Nightstalker.
[01:47:51] The only thing we'll be getting there
[01:47:53] and then still playing into the Ember Largo combo,
[01:47:55] which is incredibly strong.
[01:47:57] Here at this focus find is tier one tower.
[01:48:00] Box still level five.
[01:48:03] I believe too much will be pressured out
[01:48:05] by Catelmiette again.
[01:48:06] She became, she's gonna join the party
[01:48:07] I'm sure that this tier one does in fact fall
[01:48:10] Yeah, just team. It's like the overall macro movement is very very solid for a BB team while you while they're hitting this bottom tier one
[01:48:16] Tower with a lane ward GPK is moving over
[01:48:19] He has a remnant in the mid lane save his saki the triangle and Miro is farming so safe
[01:48:23] There's no counter play on this Largo. So everyone is unable to do the exact play that they want to go for
[01:48:31] One of what faith be honest thinking right now, why did I pick nice stuff?
[01:48:35] Who convinced me of such such a thing he does have his dark ascension now
[01:48:41] Well, he has always been a player who reminds me a lot of you know in terms
[01:48:46] I would say is I and him and like maybe I says ice these players are incredibly good with low network
[01:48:51] You know even though they're shut down
[01:48:52] They're very capable of making correct calls understanding one of the few openings in the game that you can't go for
[01:48:59] There's an edge, gets opened up on my XM,
[01:49:01] you get the crippling pier right on top of them as well.
[01:49:03] This would be an enormous kill for Vici,
[01:49:06] and it looks like they'll find him in the end.
[01:49:07] Nice shackle to delay it, but it's not enough.
[01:49:10] So Faith beyond on the board with that kill.
[01:49:15] It's giving me a lot more that came from.
[01:49:17] Oh, that's the big one.
[01:49:17] And you still have the Arch-Escension
[01:49:19] to play for any of the next fights if you want to.
[01:49:21] And yeah, this will be another active rune off course
[01:49:25] for the BB Squad as they have pretty much full mid control.
[01:49:28] Alright, the GPK is continuously pushing in the lane, getting the active runes.
[01:49:32] Haven't of course talked about the Miro Lago yet.
[01:49:35] Gonna need to get some levels up for the Crow to then help our GPK.
[01:49:39] Let's see if they can get this tower.
[01:49:40] You know, the threat of the Dark Ascension might be good enough.
[01:49:44] And we have some action mid. It's gonna be a shackle and a free kill onto Y.
[01:49:49] And a siege is still alive here.
[01:49:51] As you can see, BB Team trying to finish it.
[01:49:53] Fortification comes out from Vici, but it doesn't look like from our perspective they're going to try to defend it.
[01:50:00] They aren't just taking the 1 for 1 trade at the moment, of course this is better for the BBT squad.
[01:50:07] They have a vessel flying out which is great against the Coggle Heels.
[01:50:10] And once you take an early enemy mid-tier 1 tower, I mean, GPK already had all the runes, now it's even easier.
[01:50:15] Very, very hard to contest that deep into the river this early on.
[01:50:19] Now they group up towards the top for BB Team, save level 5, so actually just at level 6
[01:50:28] wouldn't be surprised to see the Serpent Wars place right here.
[01:50:31] Well, to go back to the roach that you talked about earlier, Undying and Rasa has always
[01:50:36] been a very good combo.
[01:50:37] Right, you kind of, Undying wants to take teamfights and Rasa kind of forces you to
[01:50:41] either take it or give up an objective for free.
[01:50:43] Yeah.
[01:50:44] So very, very nice support duo.
[01:50:51] Miro.
[01:50:52] Gonna be going for the Meteor Hammer build.
[01:50:55] And his GPK forcing Y out.
[01:50:57] Has the Spirit Vessel applied.
[01:50:58] XM just slowing him up though, so it can't pursue any further.
[01:51:01] It's not a kill, but look what he's doing on his own.
[01:51:04] While he's pushing back two heroes in the mid lane,
[01:51:06] Y doesn't have any resources.
[01:51:08] This will mean again, Active Rune.
[01:51:10] Will be yours, and they're currently looking for a smoke.
[01:51:12] I thought he has a decent read, but remember that in this daytime he doesn't really see much.
[01:51:18] Yeah, now slow it up a bit. Shackle not going to hit, but they get the connection and they're going to get the easy kill.
[01:51:24] So you got another one for BBT. The lead is not growing that much in their favour, so that's good news for Beachy.
[01:51:31] It's not reminiscent of last game at all, which is good.
[01:51:35] Especially considering that they did lose a double wisdom shrine early, they are doing a good job.
[01:51:39] Ginkyu also now with the Holy Locket completed
[01:51:44] That's can never count out a TV especially a TV coddle draft more illusions. Let's cool down on the metamorphosis
[01:51:51] So that's me eyes on shiro and his network
[01:51:59] XM working on his witchblade right now and
[01:52:03] For shiro, which we haven't really talked about too much has his yasha working towards the mantis style
[01:52:08] So nothing too crazy, and it will be a blink first for Bach
[01:52:12] And only a couple hundred out for that
[01:52:15] Okay, that is I feel like that is when they need to really imprint
[01:52:19] Yeah, I'm thinking this game especially I mean crippling fear against GPK
[01:52:23] That's probably one of the main reasons that they pick the night stalker
[01:52:26] No, that the blink will be very good
[01:52:29] But you do need to get some stuff going with that because it does hurt your scaling
[01:52:32] You're not doing some echo say what it helps you hit creeps. You're not getting you know a light as it helps you keep scaling
[01:52:37] But once they have the Blink, they can absolutely look for a couple of moves.
[01:52:41] Maybe with the Witchblade and the Solarbind combo.
[01:52:44] And we're seeing a smoke from Big Brownie team.
[01:52:47] But you see the Blink now picked up from Bok.
[01:52:49] See if they can put that to good work.
[01:52:52] It's GPK leading the way.
[01:52:54] It's the 14-minute timing again.
[01:52:56] If VG are available, I don't think their teamfighting is that weak, right?
[01:53:00] You have Heels, you have Dark Ascension.
[01:53:02] Bok is going to be spotted first.
[01:53:03] The Dark Ascension uses Bok comes in with a crippling fear.
[01:53:06] finish up wide, it could be close. As she became looking to do that, like you'll find it eventually,
[01:53:11] but to get the hex and now they get the shackle and the focus fire. Block is dead.
[01:53:16] Searing James now on to Shiro, already in half health. You have to play around a bit because
[01:53:21] of the Sunder potential. So in the end the support actually did live, but again,
[01:53:28] right beyond is the one suffering the consequences. It was good counter play, right?
[01:53:33] DB team, they were around already. There's so many people you want to stay on top of here,
[01:53:36] as the Nightstalker. If you're not staying on Mero, he keeps giving them heals or maybe
[01:53:40] movespeed. If you're not staying on Kataome, there's a Tombstone, you kind of have to follow
[01:53:43] Save as well. But it did look like that was perhaps a bit rushed. They do need Shiro to
[01:53:48] be around, or at least a Solarbind with Ex-Sem to get Dish out any follow up damage. And
[01:53:54] this is a big moment on the map. This is like 80 seconds on both Dark Ascension and Meta,
[01:54:01] but if boba team can just go ham.
[01:54:06] GPK has a spirit vessel going for the mage slayer next.
[01:54:12] And I guess we haven't really talked about the items from BB team too much yet.
[01:54:15] Karatich has the maelstrom and will be the full meowner first for him.
[01:54:19] I love these players that just queue up like 20 items in there.
[01:54:22] Looks like they get old as a Gatoro style.
[01:54:24] Yeah.
[01:54:25] You just kind of know what you want.
[01:54:26] You can always just press whatever you want anyway.
[01:54:28] And Miero opting for the Lotus as his first main item after this meteor hammer, so
[01:54:34] good reflection for the
[01:54:38] Well a lot of spells I suppose. Honestly very good like especially against solar binds. You can also screw around with the Sunder later
[01:54:45] Which they definitely may be needing
[01:54:47] But which he's still very much holding on nicely when it comes to the game
[01:54:51] And I do also like the Largo Windranger combo, you know out of like a lot of carries
[01:54:56] This is this is out a lot of magic damage, which is quite good with Largo as well
[01:55:00] Same with movespeed not a hero that uses it very nicely
[01:55:05] Damage room from XM
[01:55:07] See how aggressive that they want to be here
[01:55:09] I assume that the next item for a box is gonna be the BKB indeed that is the case, but he is just so under farmed it is
[01:55:15] crazy
[01:55:16] Yeah, he is see Jin Keele is just shadowing him in the farm right now
[01:55:20] He is suffering the only thing is that at least what is good for them is that his four is a column
[01:55:24] So you know the network you're kind of lacking, Kalu can make up for it.
[01:55:29] They're looking for a play around the mid tier one, we'll find the Observer Ward.
[01:55:32] And remember also that they are of course playing with Nightstalker, so the vision should overall be in their favor.
[01:55:42] Baka looking for an opening.
[01:55:44] Not smoked up though.
[01:55:47] Gonna wrap around through the triangle as GPK would be an incredible kill for them.
[01:55:51] He's gonna remna now before this even becomes an issue.
[01:55:53] It's a very good scan, but you can tell that, you know, while the game has felt like that BBR in overall control,
[01:56:00] Vichy are currently finding a pretty good football on the map. They were holding the mid lane quite nicely,
[01:56:04] now a lot of top control, triangle control as well. And of course, anytime they keep scaling,
[01:56:08] Shirou Meisun overtake Heritage here on the network department.
[01:56:13] Searing chains. Into the power shot, more than enough damage for GPK and Company.
[01:56:19] I mean beatboxing team again 8-2 advantage to start this game, but the network not like last game
[01:56:26] beachy
[01:56:27] At the very least are keeping up in the form department to some degree and a lot of it is on the back of
[01:56:32] Shiro's terror blade and they're going to use this opening to take out Roche
[01:56:36] Which then will help them to of course furthermore take the map
[01:56:39] See how we should go about this right you have dark ascension you have most of your spells ready and
[01:56:44] Long fights could be quite good for you. Caudo heals you see everything with your night stalker
[01:56:49] But this is a big moment.
[01:56:50] And a smoke from me pops, GPK's going right into them, into the potential.
[01:56:54] Yes, he's going to get crippling, cleared.
[01:56:55] Barclay should get help.
[01:56:56] There's the tombstone to help him out here.
[01:56:58] He already has the Aegis though.
[01:56:59] Pops right back down, and GPK's more than fine.
[01:57:02] Getting slowed up a bit.
[01:57:03] Katoumi with a nice decay.
[01:57:04] In that flesh goal informer, GPK completely resetting.
[01:57:07] They might just leave Katoumi to his fate, which is the death.
[01:57:10] But if they get out with everyone else, and he just auto spawns, thanks to that innate BB team,
[01:57:15] still relatively happy with this exchange.
[01:57:17] Vichy Gaming just did not have the damage.
[01:57:19] They actually got to squeeze in the Roche kill right before the fight started.
[01:57:22] And same with GPK, they even got the Remnant of the Small, Lickout and the Tombstone save.
[01:57:26] Let's see what Vichy can get out of this.
[01:57:28] Honestly, if they get the mid through one here as well,
[01:57:30] they should be quite happy with the overall affair of what happened.
[01:57:34] The Illusion is doing quite a bit of damage right now,
[01:57:36] and looks like they will indeed clean that tower up.
[01:57:39] So Vichy Gaming, even at the game in terms of net worth,
[01:57:42] how much damage can the BB Team do with this first ages of the game?
[01:57:46] Can they fly a lot of pressure, or is this more trying to get form outside of the map?
[01:57:51] It definitely uses to close out the map a little bit, maybe a tier 2.
[01:57:55] I would say one of the first things on your list should be the Tormentor.
[01:57:59] And then also any moments where, you know, it's gonna be 9 times on minute 20,
[01:58:03] if you get this ArchEssension out of Faith Yan, of course it's always gonna be a very,
[01:58:07] very big way and a very big cooldown that you can't play around.
[01:58:10] Here it is, all in a shack of a lot of two!
[01:58:15] As XM coming and trying to help out, the support has already dropped.
[01:58:19] This character is looking for the secondary in the form of Jin Q.
[01:58:22] I think a lot of damage to that Illuminate does have to be careful.
[01:58:24] It doesn't want to burn this first life of Aegis.
[01:58:26] Might not have a choice though.
[01:58:28] So XM gets the trade, put Link for Aegis.
[01:58:31] Not the worst.
[01:58:33] Absolutely not. They will take that.
[01:58:35] Jin Q was quite lucky there. Just before display, he unlocked his level 10 talent
[01:58:39] with the blinding light miss chance which we'll have to see later certainly
[01:58:43] something heritage we'll have to talk about because he missed a lot of attacks
[01:58:46] in this play it's like 85% miss chance yeah that's true
[01:58:49] also beautiful shackle though this has to give up the ages
[01:58:55] because it kind of looked like initially maybe he just cleans up two heroes on
[01:58:59] his own now the focus fire onto the tier two surely Vici will try to defend this
[01:59:04] if needed. He is not. Omiolner for Kiritich. GPK, he does have an Arcane rune at the moment.
[01:59:17] But the 20-minute mark approach is so tormentor on the menu, it looks to be a free one.
[01:59:23] While GPK is very strong right now, right with the mage layer and the vessel, it's more
[01:59:27] annoyance rather than high damage. As Paolo always has a pretty stale and slow mid-gamer
[01:59:33] They're on like a 20 to 30 minute mark.
[01:59:35] If it's a drag-down slide here, it's very happy.
[01:59:37] Oh, Ernakanda!
[01:59:38] Ooh!
[01:59:40] How would you rate this shard?
[01:59:41] I feel like it's OK.
[01:59:42] It's not that great.
[01:59:44] But it's, you're happy having it.
[01:59:46] You can get a bit more scale, a bit more goal, push on waves.
[01:59:50] 50 second cooldown, I didn't realize that.
[01:59:53] That's pretty long.
[01:59:54] I mean, I guess, of course, Kato only already had his shard.
[01:59:57] Yeah.
[01:59:58] I mean, it was either that or just the third in network.
[02:00:02] Is it Largo?
[02:00:03] Probably Largo.
[02:00:04] No, it's GPK actually.
[02:00:06] Honestly, the Embershark is nice, but even if you don't have the Agres yet, it's not that incredible.
[02:00:12] Okay, 21-minute wisdom shrine, definitely the script that BB are looking for here.
[02:00:33] Quite a bit of damage, and I can rent this back in, and it's absolutely punished as Beachy Gaming,
[02:00:38] they get more than three kills in this game, already good sign from them.
[02:00:42] No, incredible, definitely a little bit of a miss up, right? Just going to the wrong remnant,
[02:00:46] but also Katowani, you know, walking in, quite aggressive to there, drops to Toomstom, but TV, he doesn't care.
[02:00:52] And I think this is why eventually this can be a very, very good TV game.
[02:00:55] If you can just hold your ground, like at this point, you're not only going to shred to Toomstom, but look how fast Katowani dies here.
[02:01:00] Yeah, I feel like it was just a matter of time before I mean, surely teams are watching the replays that DB team
[02:01:08] Participate in because they're doing the exact same thing every game at the 714 and 21 minute market feels like
[02:01:13] Finally, this is a rare mistake. Yeah, okay
[02:01:16] And as a whole the Keeney bottom team lose this fight
[02:01:20] Very very important here for Vici
[02:01:22] They have a small lead now in the game and I have quite high faith when it comes to their overall force because box
[02:01:28] This was a fight right before his BKB, you know next time around if that fight happens again with half HP
[02:01:33] He can get his BKB off and it's not that easy for the BB squad to stand their ground
[02:01:37] No spark goes in gives vision to everyone. There's a storm zipping suddenly fight TB illusions and the meta is running at you
[02:01:43] Maybe you save some with the tomb, but then what it's not like they committed anything. Yeah
[02:01:47] Good signs from beachy
[02:01:49] ,
[02:02:02] the ages was born relatively early into the tire season is kind of awkward silence if you want to call it that is offer period in between
[02:02:05] Who is it that has picked it up?
[02:02:07] It should be Bok.
[02:02:09] Nauti is getting it, XM also just finished it.
[02:02:11] And it's again, it's this type of game where in the mid game it matters a lot when you think about it.
[02:02:15] Who is getting more impactful items?
[02:02:17] You're getting a double BKB on Bok and XM, whereas if you look at the BB squad, they're getting way more defensive items.
[02:02:24] Obviously Pi can help you.
[02:02:26] The next item on GPK is quite far away, same for Miero.
[02:02:30] So while BKB can be seen as a defensive item for Night Soccer and Storm, it's what allows them to play so aggressively.
[02:02:38] They have the Lotus now for Minero and the Shard, so...
[02:02:42] Crazy combination for him.
[02:02:43] I definitely need it, right now you have multiple Lotuses.
[02:02:46] You can also proc up not yourself but also one of your other cores, and you need this influx of magic damage, especially against the Shiro TV.
[02:02:53] It's like the first time in quite a while that we've been casting Breaking Bad team
[02:03:01] where they have met some resistance.
[02:03:03] Because it has been just snowball after snowball and Bici definitely figuring something out
[02:03:09] in between game 1 and 2 here.
[02:03:12] Yeah, that's the intrigue to see how the BB squad want to kind of deal with the state
[02:03:19] of the game.
[02:03:20] Because while TB is very strong, and he will outscale a Windranger absolutely for short,
[02:03:25] we've seen what Alargo and Ember can do.
[02:03:27] When they have a drag-out fight with Prokof Genius and they're just floating around, there's some catalyst, there's an abundance of magic damage.
[02:03:37] Interesting. Radiates for Valk?
[02:03:41] Potentially, I guess he would use that for a little bit and then turn it into a nullifier as soon.
[02:03:46] You definitely can. Evasion is quite good.
[02:03:48] I do feel like also there could be other items that are quite nice, maybe even like, uh,
[02:03:52] NAC, but I guess at this point, you can kind of just buy whatever you feel like is necessary.
[02:04:00] When I threaten the tier 2 tower, it looks like BB Team don't really want to do too much about this one.
[02:04:05] And again, it's a TV Cotto, so it's not like you're committing a hefty cooldown.
[02:04:09] Yeah.
[02:04:09] You just keep putting down the CD, maybe it was like a 30 to 40 second downtime if you just keep pumping it in there.
[02:04:16] things have definitely slowed down a bit which I think I actually don't know if that favors
[02:04:25] VG does it because this Nightstalker feels like he wants to be active all the time.
[02:04:29] As long as they are getting map control, which they are, I don't think they mind at all.
[02:04:33] He'll be fine.
[02:04:34] Sure, he's not like high up on the network, but again, I think we need to look more at
[02:04:37] the combo of him and the bottle because Jinkyu has quite a lot of network in this game.
[02:04:41] He's got a loader, he's got a fully locked in, not working on the aggro interceptor,
[02:04:45] At least for now, hold some people more in place, give yourself some more team flight.
[02:04:48] He's definitely picked up the slack as...
[02:04:50] Yeah.
[02:04:51] I think that's one good thing about having a position 4 that can actually farm.
[02:04:55] God, we've seen him as core, right?
[02:04:57] Yeah.
[02:04:58] So, definitely not outside of the norm.
[02:05:00] And we know what Gintu can do with farm.
[02:05:02] One of the goats of the boss 4 is when it comes to using your network aggressively.
[02:05:05] Yeah, Scotty on line for Shira.
[02:05:07] So he is starting to pack a punch finally.
[02:05:10] It's like now he's strong and very tanky and mind you you know there's a 20 stick
[02:05:15] There's a corner behind him. There's anti-team fighting with the night stock
[02:05:18] We constantly get all the vision that you want
[02:05:20] I think killing the cb from full to zero is really not easy for the radiant rap
[02:05:24] You need to stick on that guy for quite a while if your courage and until you have a bkb
[02:05:29] I don't see how that's gonna happen. Yeah
[02:05:33] Still a recipe away from heritage
[02:05:35] We'll be a pretty early Roshan spawn, so while I think that Chirro is very strong now with
[02:05:43] the Skadi right, Felysso right here with the TV, which helps network when he gets his
[02:05:47] next item, which is the NKB against the Windranger, Chirrochage has to pay a lot of attention
[02:05:52] to how you play around this TV, because if you walk in, you are dying incredibly fast.
[02:05:56] Chirrochage is going to go the way of BGGaming as Bok can open things up onto the Frogman,
[02:06:00] it has the Lotus applied, but they have the damage along with XM, going to get the double
[02:06:04] Electric Vortex matters not, Bob gets the kill.
[02:06:08] Vici game and getting some nice momentum and fighting Brontosaurus team again.
[02:06:13] They have not been put in this position very often this tournament.
[02:06:16] No, not really.
[02:06:17] You know, they're bleeding a little bit on the gold lead, down 3k gold, because you're
[02:06:20] also very nice wards overall from Vici on the map, one on the bottom gate, one mid lane
[02:06:24] ward, and this top lane ward, the dead spot of Miro on the side of this play.
[02:06:28] And when the map turns into this, it is incredibly annoying to play against this draft.
[02:06:33] There's all the maps are pushed in if there's one night so I've seen you and I time the storms it's over just like that
[02:06:42] And more pressure with the illusions cheer out
[02:06:45] Demon zeal
[02:06:47] You're actually gonna get another power going their way. This is without Roche on their side
[02:06:52] Is that every tier two? Yeah, absolutely
[02:06:56] HG
[02:06:58] Mounting a comeback after that game number one debacle. We could call it nothing like 5k lead now
[02:07:05] Looking quite good. I feel a lot more comfortable
[02:07:07] And I think it is how they beat all the previous teams 1w and Falcons
[02:07:12] They found like a nice draft with vision overall math play
[02:07:16] You have ghost push and then like you abuse it to find a pick up into a team fight
[02:07:20] Honestly, all eyes are now on the secondary rush in this draft
[02:07:23] BKB completed on curative, so you have a huge item finding for the BBD Bobbie squad here.
[02:07:31] Whereas Vici, if they can delay perhaps until this MKB, I don't think they would mind at
[02:07:36] all.
[02:07:37] Of course it is a little bit away, but you farm incredibly fast.
[02:07:41] Yeah, the Radiance is not too far off for Bok.
[02:07:44] Just the Talisman away, GPK going to run into the illusions of Shiro, remaneting to the
[02:07:48] The high ground won't find the target though.
[02:07:53] I'm not finding much at least for now.
[02:07:57] And looking into the pit, so Bilbo Vaggenstein will try to go for this rush.
[02:08:01] I was gonna use that one.
[02:08:02] I love that one.
[02:08:05] So they go for the belch. I don't know if they're gonna be around in time,
[02:08:08] because you definitely want to contest, right? You have Nightstalker, you've got the illusion to scout it out.
[02:08:12] Yeah, it's gonna be close.
[02:08:14] Vici smorgasms. Very close indeed. They're zipping from XM, but Kirtich gets the Aegis.
[02:08:19] BKB as XM does the same. Trying to create some pressure here, and a shackle onto the Terral Blade.
[02:08:24] Getting the sucker up the hole. The hex is there, and Shiro takes the tumble.
[02:08:29] And with that BB team, gonna try to chase out the rest of Vici. Although now they're actually resetting.
[02:08:37] Did they get everything? The Aegis end? Yeah, they got the Rosh banner as well. So everything going
[02:08:41] going away at BB team.
[02:08:42] Oh, they needed that.
[02:08:43] But this is sometimes you have to go for
[02:08:45] somewhat of the higher risky place.
[02:08:46] I think if you're reaching,
[02:08:47] you're going to be highly kicking yourself
[02:08:49] that you left the area with so much distance
[02:08:52] between you and BB team.
[02:08:54] But by the time you get close by,
[02:08:55] they didn't even have vision yet.
[02:08:56] Oh, cool.
[02:08:57] Look at the shackle that's coming up.
[02:08:59] That is so pretty from Kershich.
[02:09:02] And that's the scary part of having these illusions next
[02:09:04] to you, more targets to get a shackle
[02:09:06] that is potentially game defining.
[02:09:08] So PB team, punching back in this game number two, they're back into the shackle, focus
[02:09:17] fire will finish it.
[02:09:19] Karnakonda, yeah that's a sexy snake right there.
[02:09:22] It's Kiritich definitely now, you know with the ages queuing up a Daedalus can definitely
[02:09:25] turn around and kind of change the one to one matchup that he has going against Chiro's
[02:09:30] TV.
[02:09:31] Yeah, it should be a leotornatter so that's going to be Galeforce for Kiritich because
[02:09:35] everybody else has shard.
[02:09:37] Honestly, they'll be pretty happy about that, which is nice, especially against all the illusions, maybe push some of the people away.
[02:09:47] So, Ichi, this is...
[02:09:49] You should know how you want to fight with a Nightstalker, right?
[02:09:52] You want to kind of go around, pop the Dark Ascension and start the fight nicely yourself.
[02:09:56] You don't really want to be the ones that get pressured first.
[02:09:59] But I do have to commend BB Team for finding such a moment.
[02:10:03] Still, the network quite even.
[02:10:08] VGGaming, when the top networks in the game are basically interchanged with this point
[02:10:14] between Keratich and Shiro, and I assume he's going to have to go MKB at some point.
[02:10:19] In fact, that is the case now.
[02:10:20] They will have to wait for it.
[02:10:21] It's the only way that you can deal with the Windranger.
[02:10:24] Alright, so Radiance online for Bok.
[02:10:26] Tell me what this does for him.
[02:10:27] Obviously, Evasion is nice.
[02:10:29] It allows him to farm, and then he can take it apart, I assume, at some point.
[02:10:32] Yeah, it's kind of nice to help you like scale it a little bit like maybe get to some of this like more quiet time
[02:10:38] Then later up, you know, just end with the nullifier like you're saying
[02:10:41] So you can go the radiance AC. I mean evasion is still quite good, right against the radiant raffle or most importantly against the windranger
[02:10:48] I don't think any of the other stuff is really that important
[02:10:53] But it was a big deal because characters was about to play
[02:10:56] potentially into a TV who had an MKB with an Aegis. Now suddenly you get to match the MKB timing with an Aegis of your own and a near full Daedalus.
[02:11:10] We try to maybe poke at that tier 2 tower as we see a smoke coming out from bearded Beaver team.
[02:11:15] As Jin Q is going to get run into, X.
[02:11:17] He's dead.
[02:11:18] And that will be the death of the old man and the horse.
[02:11:21] She's still gonna do anything with this because in the meantime, Kuretich really taking the mid, yep, mid tier 2 tower.
[02:11:33] I might just wanna wait at this ages, there is the MKB completed for Shiro.
[02:11:37] I accept
[02:12:07] very very even game. Why was the glimmer in TP? And he's out.
[02:12:15] A little bit surprised that Vici are not playing with any four
[02:12:17] staffs against the radiant raft, you know, trying to squeeze
[02:12:20] people out of like a shackle or a chain, so just create a little
[02:12:23] bit of distance between their force and heritage.
[02:12:27] Tower, but the shackles actually reflected that they have the
[02:12:30] silence on the winner able to get the four staff onto the other
[02:12:33] side, but they're still pursuing his accent gets like number
[02:12:35] She's off, taking a ton of damage, gonna get healed.
[02:12:38] Tombstone finally killed off his Keratich, pops a BKB in retreat.
[02:12:41] The Gale force doing a pretty good work.
[02:12:42] Gets a shot, goes in.
[02:12:43] Terrible, really have to damage them.
[02:12:44] They can be able to clear up wide.
[02:12:46] GbK gets that kill, but bot absolutely deletes Keratich.
[02:12:49] Gets to the south, into the pit.
[02:12:51] He goes with that ult.
[02:12:54] Terrible, unfortunately.
[02:12:56] Was the big kill coming out from BBT.
[02:12:59] And it's blocked.
[02:13:00] Looks like he will eventually be found.
[02:13:02] It ends up being a one for three, carries trade lives, but BG bled a little bit more.
[02:13:08] Boom boys will definitely take that type of fight right here.
[02:13:11] It was expiring anyway in like 30 to 40 seconds, and even with some very clutch heals from JinQ
[02:13:16] to keep off the life initially.
[02:13:18] Otherwise Curitix would have just maybe got now from Scott Free, had another incredible shackle onto the Shiro TV.
[02:13:28] He's getting screwed by his illusions.
[02:13:30] Yeah, you are.
[02:13:31] BB team they're finding good fights and this is while TV is at one of the strongest moments in the game
[02:13:39] Like they're looking here, of course they kind of get Kiritage once nearly for free
[02:13:45] But even so he still has the BKB once he respawns
[02:13:49] And you can see the damage from Cheryl like if Kiritage isn't
[02:13:53] You know careful here or doesn't even land the track on them in here. He would have died way earlier in this fight
[02:13:58] Both carries die simultaneously. Good job from Block to create that extra pressure, but in the end the fight did technically go the way of BB Team.
[02:14:11] Aghan Scepter are there for Jin Q. I'm not sure if he had it in that last fight.
[02:14:15] I don't think so, but we definitely would have seen it.
[02:14:17] Yeah, Willowisp is insanely strong.
[02:14:19] Not the 7 minutes drift.
[02:14:21] Yeah, this one's not that important to Lotus.
[02:14:23] The load is on the storm or is it taking heavy damage to get the problem to silence on top of them GPK
[02:14:28] Crane pressure on the high ground off Hawaii. We all accept doing the same for beachy game
[02:14:32] I said he's don't say as XF has to use all his data to retreat so again another shrine likely to go the way
[02:14:39] Gets focused fired into the grave so to death for beachy
[02:14:44] And bleeding blisters team win another fight, and they're gonna likely get this tier two
[02:14:49] In addition to that shrine that saved ended up grabbing form
[02:14:53] Even though you know this play is coming, they just get a correct play going.
[02:14:57] Chirro didn't have the meta or didn't feel comfortable using it.
[02:15:00] I think he really wants this VKB before he's fighting.
[02:15:03] I don't know if I really blamed him, right?
[02:15:06] Like if I'm looking at like the radiant Chirro's overall.
[02:15:08] Ember now has an Agnus Scepter, he's constantly croak of genius.
[02:15:12] You have an Agnus Scepter on the Largo as well.
[02:15:14] A lot of problems to deal with here against the Baoban Terminators.
[02:15:19] What?
[02:15:21] The focus wire and the Arna Kanda used to take out the tier 3 bot.
[02:15:26] And they get the full set of racks.
[02:15:28] 20 seconds for Faith Beyond to come back in this game.
[02:15:31] So it looks like they'll sacrifice it without their Night Stalker.
[02:15:34] So first lane to BB Team.
[02:15:37] Back in control.
[02:15:39] It is a big one.
[02:15:41] So if Ida Team gets their site on the active runes, there's a damage rune in the top area.
[02:15:46] And it's also going to be here for item timing and here is where a lot of illusion matchups can also swing
[02:15:52] Against the magic heroes if you get a couple of catalysts you get some timeless
[02:15:55] Enchantments to get some more spell amp your way chiro if anyone on the dire side looked at the minimap. They know there's an ambrune
[02:16:02] Your Torah would be quite disappointed if they will not go here to get it and she became is gonna snag it instead. Yeah
[02:16:10] Are you surprised that Cheryl went for BKB so late
[02:16:13] No, I honestly think his item build was fine.
[02:16:17] There's a world where maybe you could skip Scotty and then you went for NKB, BKB straight up.
[02:16:22] I think where their game faltered a lot was the secondary roach, where they had a 5k gold lead, they leave the area,
[02:16:29] and the BB squad just kind of got to fully attack and win the fight and steal the Aegis.
[02:16:33] Because I feel like this Aegis could have been his BKB until he completed it.
[02:16:38] There's the timeless puncher, Skydiver 4-1. That's Mr. Miro, who will be very happy about this one.
[02:16:45] Oh yeah.
[02:16:46] Yeah, this is... it's just a type of timing. 35 to 40 minutes more. Nice catch from GPK.
[02:16:53] Freebie.
[02:16:55] Yeah, and brown briefcase team have been in this position before and we've seen them with these leads with...
[02:17:03] And again, we've said it many a time, they do not throw these leads very often.
[02:17:07] Vici were in the game for quite a while, they still are.
[02:17:13] If this next rush goes the way of VB team, it's going to be really hard to recover for Vici.
[02:17:18] Yeah, because you have a satanic from Curitich as well, GPJ trying to get the shot behind his XM coming in right on top of the Undyne.
[02:17:24] This is BKB already, and the Willow-wisp on the high ground into the gale force.
[02:17:30] GenQ now on the rock, but that can't go anywhere.
[02:17:32] Sheer will pop into BKB along with the bat, trying to run away, getting focused by looking for the Sunder, but it's not to be.
[02:17:38] Down goes the carry for Vici Gaming as the rest retreat in shame, and that, if it's a fast rush, which it is,
[02:17:46] 20 seconds away, if they spot it, then this will be a freebie for BB Team.
[02:17:52] It's still one minute, where Shiro isn't even on the board.
[02:17:56] BB Team, they're just finding the fights that they want.
[02:17:58] Miro's got the double-lick talent, just getting Katomi out of all the pressure, baiting them further in.
[02:18:04] And I do think that Kershich got to skip a couple of item-pimings with some of the fights that they have won.
[02:18:09] Like earlier, this MKB timing, he matches with the data, the size, he does the panic.
[02:18:12] He can stand his ground against Shiro.
[02:18:14] And they still have the Surf and War, they're going to get the connection onto the hook link as well.
[02:18:17] Miro gets that kill, they're going to get the tier 3 with the Ernicana on top,
[02:18:20] and it's second set of barracks going away of BB team as they are in firm control now GPK
[02:18:29] creating some annoyance for Bakken company and Shira will respawn here shortly so bustling
[02:18:37] Barracudas I think they can just go for Roche they absolutely I wonder if they would just hold
[02:18:42] that area maybe a little bit until they know okay it's three now we can go for it obviously they
[02:18:47] They kill Roach incredibly fast.
[02:18:49] Up there you go, get some flesh golden.
[02:18:51] Cause they're just getting baited in like way too far.
[02:18:54] Like even like this full Agateb sent to the Jinkyu has,
[02:18:57] doesn't get to use it.
[02:18:57] Everyone has BKB there, he cannot sunder anything.
[02:19:01] Just such a hard position to be in for Shiro.
[02:19:04] As we see, Carrot Stitch get yet another Aegis,
[02:19:06] they're gonna have the Refresher Shard,
[02:19:08] Cheese, and Roach Banner.
[02:19:10] All the goodies, maybe the most valuable Roach
[02:19:12] in the game, this third one.
[02:19:14] Oh, there's nothing.
[02:19:15] He's got the Cheese.
[02:19:16] You have a banner with the 40-minute waves if you want, you have only one lane left to go, do you really have to wait for anything here?
[02:19:22] If you're the BB squad, I don't feel close to any items. You know, GPK has got a couple K gold, can maybe buy out a full item on to Katomion the Undying if you want, close to the Lotus.
[02:19:32] The OctoRain core being built for Miero.
[02:19:42] Let's see if they're waiting for anything specific.
[02:19:45] He's pretty damn close to the OctoRain, so they probably wait for that.
[02:19:48] 3.4K for GPK right now.
[02:19:50] It's here at itch.
[02:19:52] Can't go for a blink.
[02:19:54] They're going to be able to take yet another tourney.
[02:19:58] This one is only gold though.
[02:20:00] This is where, if you're reaching gaming, you're going to have to come up with the plan and how you take the fight because this next flight
[02:20:07] could be the last one of this entire game. They have only one last lane to go for.
[02:20:12] You could see a world where you want to smoke up, go from the back line, you know, use the Nightstalker ult, maybe get some eyes on the Shadow Shaman
[02:20:21] and also on the Katoumi Undying, who's incredibly annoying. It's got a goal step there as well.
[02:20:25] Speck has popped, could even be the reason why he stays alive.
[02:20:31] And now the smoke coming out for BB.
[02:20:35] Octorine officially picked up, as we talked about, Miero, super strong on the Frogman.
[02:20:41] 4K HP with the cheese, Octamin Core.
[02:20:44] No character, it's actually off to the Agnes Scepter, so...
[02:20:47] You had another power spike on the BB team.
[02:20:50] Why not put the right banner down and on a focused fire?
[02:20:53] This is where Vici have to stand their ground.
[02:20:55] Circuit War is placed as well as the illusions.
[02:20:57] Try to make quick work.
[02:20:58] If it already the tier three tower is dead though,
[02:21:01] Vici have to make something work.
[02:21:03] Willow-Wiss is just going to be cleaned up very easily.
[02:21:06] And as Cheryl just getting controlled from the back line,
[02:21:09] they're going to pop that fortification now.
[02:21:10] Soft reset from BB team.
[02:21:13] Already run assist from BBK.
[02:21:15] And that's likely the last clip they're
[02:21:17] going to have this entire game.
[02:21:19] They don't try to defend here. They get the range, Barracks. The melee racks are now being focused.
[02:21:23] There's the Nightstalker ult.
[02:21:25] There's now Garret's just focused on it. They're gonna get Mega Creeps.
[02:21:29] Not even defended at all.
[02:21:31] Just in decisiveness, I think they were maybe hoping to wait for this Daedalus on Chiro,
[02:21:35] but yet now, well, we'll have to play into Mega's.
[02:21:38] There's no way around it.
[02:21:40] That is shocking that they did not try to defend that.
[02:21:44] I felt like they were gonna go once Fock popped that ultimate.
[02:21:47] it just didn't really find a connection and with that baby can just wait for
[02:21:54] the mega creeps to show up in their base or they can just go for a snipe or it's
[02:21:57] daytime without night so-called just yeah yeah why you're dead zip in not a
[02:22:03] whole lot of damage work with they don't have any back and they can buy back
[02:22:05] onto the hood because XM now getting focused by carrot it will have to zip
[02:22:08] away very little man to work with as GPK was forced to use his BKB in
[02:22:12] retreats gonna pop the cheese back to full HP. The mega creeps haven't quite
[02:22:18] made it to the base yet as the Arnaconda is gonna be placed in between the tier
[02:22:22] four towers. Big zip to try to kill off the creeps to create some backdoor
[02:22:27] protection but again it's mega creeps coming. Yeah and this is a largo screen
[02:22:31] you just stay behind you carry you buff them up you allow characters to just
[02:22:33] keep shooting away and he has not been missing this game at all on the wind
[02:22:39] or whether it's the power shots, right clicks, or the shackles.
[02:22:42] Looks like they're going to retreat for the time being. No mana on the Largo right now.
[02:22:46] I mean, they still have a minute on Aegis, so likely to just get some mana and get right back into the fray.
[02:22:55] Oh, let's see if Michi can come up with a better plan than what they had in the last fight,
[02:22:58] because I don't really know if there was that much of a plan.
[02:23:01] Perhaps, you know, there's a lot of pressure going on. You're at 18k down, now you're playing into megas.
[02:23:05] But at some point you will have to come up with something.
[02:23:10] Alright, they have gotten 10 total kills in this series. That's crazy.
[02:23:15] And I do, they had quite, like, their kill score wasn't that bad like early on, right?
[02:23:19] Again, it's been a very quiet like 10 to 15 minutes here.
[02:23:23] As if you look at Bugs Bunny's scorelines, 0-0-13 on save hasn't even died a single time on the roster.
[02:23:30] He hasn't died a single time in a series.
[02:23:33] Yeah, that's crazy.
[02:23:34] And that's against a nice stalker's storm lineup.
[02:23:37] Yeah.
[02:23:39] That's a yikes.
[02:23:40] As Vici, their last defense for the focus fire now,
[02:23:43] apply and save with a BKB.
[02:23:45] He's going to get the full shackle onto Shiro,
[02:23:48] controlled up and killed off.
[02:23:50] 80 seconds down and out.
[02:23:52] No way to get back in with a buyback.
[02:23:55] As they're just going to call it,
[02:23:56] GGs come out as BB team absolutely
[02:24:00] destroy and dismantle Vici getting
[02:24:03] As they head to the grand finals, these guys are looking very good, right?
[02:24:06] You see that game one kind of stompin' not giving up anything that this game quite different.
[02:24:11] Ichi looked good, they looked good throughout the entire tournament.
[02:24:14] Today, maybe not as much, but even in this game, they had a good lead.
[02:24:17] It was all about the second rose.
[02:24:19] And I think this is the important and good things from DBT.
[02:24:23] It doesn't matter if they're ahead or behind, they kind of know how to just execute their game plan.
[02:24:27] Yeah, it was a lot closer, at least through the mid game, this time for Ichi Gaming.
[02:24:32] The burger belchers they just came out swinging so hard at that mid game
[02:24:38] GP K ends the game nine and three Kira Kitch
[02:24:41] I love this winner on a pick usually it's I'm kind of iffy with it
[02:24:44] But against the terribly it looks really really good and shero ends the game zero and four. That's crazy
[02:24:48] He's so far in this game, too
[02:24:50] Honestly, they had some timings that they just didn't get to execute together and sometimes it's hard to tell from like, you know
[02:24:56] It's easy for us. We have like the full vision
[02:24:58] but what is it exactly that DBT is doing that is making it so hard to execute?
[02:25:02] Like when on the second road they get to squeeze in this early fight and you just
[02:25:06] play, I do really think that's where they dropped this game.
[02:25:09] But yeah, Kirtage on his Windranger, insane performance and kind of all around,
[02:25:13] everyone just playing the hard out.
[02:25:15] Yeah, and save, again, just to reiterate, in a two games play, he died zero times on a support.
[02:25:21] That is absurd, actually absurd.
[02:25:23] At the end, Steven gets like a game winning full duration shackle on the enemy hard carry.
[02:25:27] There's a VKB letting him channel that, and when you get to that point with Rasta, it is very hard to deal with.
[02:25:35] So overall, I think Ichi should be quite happy with the overall performance, right?
[02:25:39] It's leading up to TI, you're doing very good, you're getting top 4 at a major tournament, maybe even third place, potentially tomorrow.
[02:25:46] So definitely nothing to be too unhappy about with the overall performance.
[02:25:49] These shackles though, they were crazy.
[02:25:51] They were thinking of the illusions against Shiro.
[02:25:53] That was like two or three deaths, like pivotal deaths as well throughout the game for him.
[02:25:58] You see the last shackle coming out from save is BB Team absolutely destroying.
[02:26:04] Let's go to the stage for an interview.
[02:26:10] Ladies and gentlemen, may I please introduce you to our first grand finalist?
[02:26:15] Here we go, give it up for Garrett Ditch!
[02:26:18] and BPC!
[02:26:20] What an absolute honor and pleasure to see you guys
[02:26:23] just have a clinic that series.
[02:26:26] Extremely impressive. Did you know, fun fact,
[02:26:28] you have only lost games this tournament on Rangers.
[02:26:33] One Drow Ranger, one Win Ranger,
[02:26:35] yet you pick it in game two.
[02:26:38] What was that dedication like?
[02:26:39] How did you know you were going to win with the world's best Win Ranger?
[02:26:42] You?
[02:26:43] I don't know. Vitaliy Trotsky,
[02:26:45] He coached me how to play in the ring, how to shakele, how to use power shot, that's it.
[02:27:02] He's super prime.
[02:27:15] final and I got to tell you before you joined the team DB team was kind of known
[02:27:20] for choking and moments like this not any longer now you've been a champion are
[02:27:26] you ready for this grand final do you think that there is even a slight chance
[02:27:31] you might go through that pain of second place of course we're ready destroy them
[02:27:35] whoever dares to be on that stage but I have to ask you who do you think is
[02:27:43] going to be on that stage along there with you.
[02:27:45] What?
[02:27:46] Who will be fighting you in the Grand Finals?
[02:27:50] To be honest, PV and Yandex team, very good team.
[02:27:54] They're very strong.
[02:27:55] It's for me 50-50 matchup.
[02:27:58] To be honest, I don't know.
[02:28:00] It's just coin flip.
[02:28:01] My coin flip, it's Yandex.
[02:28:03] All right, all right.
[02:28:04] But either way, you're going to crush whoever comes, right?
[02:28:06] Of course, of course.
[02:28:07] Okay.
[02:28:08] And last question for you.
[02:28:09] You have spoken so much this year about your personal dedication.
[02:28:13] You know, gym in every day, practice in every day, this slow increase.
[02:28:19] Do you have too much left to prove?
[02:28:21] Do you have to win this one?
[02:28:22] Or is it just another way down your path?
[02:28:25] It's another way, just a casual day of my life.
[02:28:28] Damn, all right, a casual winner.
[02:28:30] Fantastic.
[02:28:31] Well, let's get some casual teammates up here.
[02:28:33] Gentlemen, please join us.
[02:28:35] You do know what time it is here at EWC.
[02:28:39] You don't just beat your opponents.
[02:28:41] You crush them, baby.
[02:28:43] And one of you has to crush.
[02:28:45] Let's get that crusher ready.
[02:28:47] Open those doors.
[02:28:48] And who is gonna be my crusher here today?
[02:28:51] I need one of you to elect.
[02:28:53] Okay, me here wants it.
[02:28:56] Gentlemen, to the key crusher, my friends.
[02:29:00] Not only do you crush a key,
[02:29:02] you crush an entire region here today.
[02:29:06] They are going down.
[02:29:08] Say goodnight to the Chinese Dota.
[02:29:11] Not as bad as we thought.
[02:29:14] Goodbye, brothers.
[02:29:16] Here we go.
[02:29:18] Oh, yeah, baby.
[02:29:20] Oh, that was a blow up.
[02:29:22] My god.
[02:29:24] That one blowed the hell up.
[02:29:26] That's what I like to see.
[02:29:27] All right, my friend.
[02:29:29] Excellent crush.
[02:29:30] Let's take a look at the key and see
[02:29:32] if it lives up to your standards.
[02:29:34] I got to be real.
[02:29:35] I don't think we could crush that key
[02:29:37] to represent how much crush them in that series.
[02:29:39] Take a look at your exam and is it crushed at all?
[02:29:43] Fine, yes.
[02:29:43] That is fine.
[02:29:45] But if they're ready to crush whoever goes
[02:29:47] in that grand finals coming up tomorrow,
[02:29:49] let's head to the panel and see what they think.
[02:29:51] Okay.
[02:29:55] A fine crushing was done by BB Team against Vici Gaming.
[02:30:01] It was a closer game, game two.
[02:30:03] We can make the claim that Vici Gaming
[02:30:05] We actually did get to play Dota in this one, but it was still not good enough to come close to beating
[02:30:11] BV Team, who will be our first Grand Finalist here.
[02:30:15] Congratulations to them. We're going to break this game down, Sam. This was at least a closer game.
[02:30:21] Hey, Brian, this was at least a closer game.
[02:30:27] You guys got to turn on your microphone.
[02:30:29] This is great, I'll just hold him on the log, it was a closer game.
[02:30:36] That is for sure.
[02:30:37] Am I working now?
[02:30:38] Oh, perfect.
[02:30:39] Yes.
[02:30:40] I mean, this was a series for me where, you know, when we heard Kiritich's interview
[02:30:44] afterwards, he says it's just another day.
[02:30:46] I know, like to some degree, we want the players to be heavily emotionally invested in this,
[02:30:50] but I also have such a deep respect for the fact that it doesn't matter what day it is,
[02:30:55] it doesn't matter what the situation is, if it's practice day, if it's off time, if
[02:30:59] It's championship day that they have the same mindset and they're able to put the same amount of effort in
[02:31:04] Conviction to their craft and I feel like for heritage when he talked about every day just being a slow grind in the right direction
[02:31:11] It's displayed in his gameplay throughout the entire course of this year and for a player like him
[02:31:15] It's I think this is truly his moment
[02:31:17] So you know he's gonna have quite the formidable opponent tomorrow regardless of who wins, but I believe in him personally
[02:31:23] That's this okay. I thought you muted my mic before
[02:31:26] as a punishment for believing
[02:31:28] which he gave in draft both you know two games in a row and they end up losing
[02:31:32] you're like yeah okay this guy doesn't get to set it up he's done but no
[02:31:36] impressive performance by BB I think I don't want to say expected then make it
[02:31:40] sound like less like as a you know like rewarding that it should be for them
[02:31:46] because honestly it was a very tough challenge for them they showed up big
[02:31:50] time they played I think two of the best games they've played so far it was
[02:31:53] everything was just you're executed to perfection like the team fights especially
[02:31:57] I think is the most impressive part like how they position themselves how they're able to
[02:32:02] You know how well they understand fight conditions because it sometimes you know
[02:32:07] You see the fight like it's time to settle in and they're taking positions and all of a sudden
[02:32:11] They just rush into Vici like they understand that there's an angle to kill CB and it's like a one second
[02:32:15] We're talking one second angle and they find that they find the opening. It's really impressive like how well they execute team fights together and how
[02:32:23] How in sync they are with each other's really?
[02:32:25] I mean, for me, when I'm watching Vici, they looked much better in game two than they did
[02:32:32] in game one.
[02:32:33] So I'm happy to say that they put on a bit more of a showing, but it was kind of like
[02:32:36] they got past the hurdle of the 10 to 15 minute mark.
[02:32:39] They didn't have the little bit of sloppy mistakes there and we got to see that side
[02:32:42] of them, the better side.
[02:32:43] But then like you said, it's just BB team.
[02:32:45] Oh man, I feel like you're, you know, you're throwing a punch at them and you're vulnerable
[02:32:49] for that split second and they, they just gut punch you the second that you do it.
[02:32:53] And yeah, it's for me, it's a combination of fight execution that's made teams like
[02:32:57] BB make it this far.
[02:32:58] And it's also that creativity and the drafting and the strategies and the next level of that.
[02:33:01] I feel like they have such a deep understanding of the picks going in, but then also how that
[02:33:06] plays out of game.
[02:33:07] I feel like they're almost able to visualize it for a minute zero and then have it manifest
[02:33:11] itself later on.
[02:33:12] And it is like a painter, you know, on their canvas.
[02:33:15] Yeah.
[02:33:16] And we're not, we're not done yet breaking down this game, but we are going to take
[02:33:19] a slight break because right now we are going to check in at the alliance vault with chris and rose
[02:33:29] thank you very much she is we are down here once again at the alliance vault and i am here
[02:33:33] with rose just discussing kind of what's going on down here rose mlbb we've had the
[02:33:36] women's invitational here how's it be for you guys it's great we are currently in the grand
[02:33:42] finals there we have navi going up against team vitality and for a little bit of context navi
[02:33:48] want it all in 2024 MWI and on the side of Team Vitality, they want it all in 2025.
[02:33:56] So, 2024, 2025 and right now they're battling it out for 2026.
[02:34:00] And for these guys as well, Club Championship points on the line on all our candidates.
[02:34:03] I have to make sure I get that one and that's my job. It's all right though.
[02:34:05] But yeah, for these guys, big important moments for them to go well in the Club Championship.
[02:34:09] But we've got you guys actually coming over to stage three next week as well.
[02:34:11] Correct. Next week you guys will be seeing me on the main stage because I will be hosting instead
[02:34:16] of reporting. I know so we've got MLBB, we've got the mid-season invitation kind of coming up for them,
[02:34:20] our mid-season competition coming up for those guys next week. What are we going to expect from
[02:34:24] that when we do get there though? Oh that one's going to be exciting, we're going to have the best
[02:34:28] teams in the world coming down to Paris, battling it out for a lot of money, a lot of club championship
[02:34:35] points and of course the pride of their nations. It's going to be amazing. That's the most important
[02:34:40] thing. Thank you very much Rose for the chat, we'll be checking out with you next week. Back to you
[02:34:43] you guys in the studio. Thank you very much Chris and Rose and yeah next week
[02:34:49] this stage will be in the hands of MLBB but for now it is still all Dota 2 and
[02:34:54] we do still want to break down the game to we just witnessed just a little bit
[02:34:59] more serve what you got for us. What do I have I mean I have two sequences that
[02:35:04] kind of show the difference of execution and like the end result of a team
[02:35:09] fight when it's, I guess, well executed and when it isn't.
[02:35:13] So we'll see here, one of the first aggressive moves I'll play on half speed that BVT is
[02:35:19] doing and trying to contest Vici Gaming with them.
[02:35:22] And you have to look at the position.
[02:35:23] You might think this is a great Tombstone placement, Katowomie, he's kind of baiting.
[02:35:27] And what I want you to focus on is, look at the fight entry for Vici Gaming.
[02:35:32] So you have TB, very well positioned, as we could see there, you know, like on the high
[02:35:37] ground.
[02:35:38] Basically killing heroes and Storm enters the fight as TB is ready to kill the targets that are being stunned, right?
[02:35:45] And on the other side of the fight, you have the Nightstalker that is like creating chaos in the backline, forcing them to look at him.
[02:35:52] And basically giving free reigns to his TB, like Windranger is not allowed to focus the TB because she has to deal with Nightstalker.
[02:35:59] His support, like, heritage supports are probably making the call or Ember in that case that, hey, well, Nightstalker is jumping me, I need some help.
[02:36:05] So, everything just happens together for Ritchie Gaming, it's very well-rounded.
[02:36:09] And this is like a draft that is really hard to deal with,
[02:36:12] because you can't really get through the TBA because Cuddle's positioning is also kept very safe,
[02:36:16] because they are, you know, offense is the best defense, it is true in Dota.
[02:36:20] Cuddle has been, if you look at the Cuddle, he's been untouched the entire teamfight.
[02:36:24] Like if you pay close attention to the Cuddle, he spent all the fight,
[02:36:28] hitting his allies, you know, really finishing their mana, reducing the cooldown spell,
[02:36:32] and this fight did not look even close.
[02:36:34] And these heroes are late game heroes, like Ninesocker suffered a really poor landing phase,
[02:36:38] TB obviously, everybody understands why TB needs items, and the same can be said about Storm.
[02:36:43] Now, a different situation is the Roche contest, where Vici Gaming, you know, you could blame them
[02:36:49] for maybe being a little bit late and not understanding that Roche is being taken by BV,
[02:36:53] this will lead into like a Roche teamfight, a Roche teamfight, which they will have to pay
[02:36:57] a very high price for. Because if you look at the difference between the fight I just showed you
[02:37:01] you and this one. Now, NS doesn't get vision in the rush pit anymore, so that is obviously
[02:37:07] a big factor. Storm jumped in, started the fight, and you know, you kind of wonder where
[02:37:11] is TB? Like, TB is not there yet. TB has just entered the fight a little bit above, so this
[02:37:16] allowed for, like, essentially the BB team to completely ignore the Storm, completely
[02:37:20] ignore the NS that are not creating any issues, they get to turn their attention to the TB
[02:37:25] fully and focusing on. And to also mess with the call, firstly in the reposition. So, it
[02:37:30] It comes down to very little aspects of the fight.
[02:37:33] This is why you have to enter the fight together as a unit.
[02:37:36] It has to be structured.
[02:37:38] And we've seen the best teams in the tournament,
[02:37:40] they don't rush these sequences.
[02:37:43] Under no circumstances will they give up
[02:37:45] on how their fight has to be executed.
[02:37:47] They will give you the rush.
[02:37:48] They will, you know, we've seen the Falcons,
[02:37:50] the Yandexes of the world.
[02:37:51] They will give you one Aegis, two Aegises.
[02:37:53] At no point will they put themselves in a situation
[02:37:56] they don't control or that their drafts cannot research.
[02:37:59] So in that sense, I think it really showed the difference between both teams.
[02:38:02] Where on one side you have like very crisp execution and discipline.
[02:38:06] And on the other side, you have a vitri game with like very creative concepts.
[02:38:09] And honestly, like great showing, but just they're missing, you know,
[02:38:13] the surgical aspect of the highest level of Dora.
[02:38:16] Yeah.
[02:38:16] And of course, we will see them again tomorrow in the third, fourth place, the Sider.
[02:38:21] So hopefully they will be having some time to get that in order.
[02:38:24] Otherwise, later down the line, they will have another shot in China with TI.
[02:38:29] But for now, they are not making it to the grand finals.
[02:38:32] It is BB team that is just one step ahead and they look very good.
[02:38:36] But we had to give the MVP to one person and it's not the first time we give it to this person, Brian.
[02:38:40] It's Kiritich once again.
[02:38:42] I'll just say with saved performance in that series, this means so much for how well
[02:38:47] Kiritich also played during the series, because there are so many pop off plays
[02:38:51] on the side of BB team as a whole unit and Kiritich.
[02:38:55] He's I think I've probably said this 10 times this tournament,
[02:38:58] But he's one of my favorite carry players ever since seeing his interview earlier this year where he's just joined BB team and he was just excited
[02:39:07] talking about the
[02:39:09] Opportunity to get to play with such amazing players and that was such a different vibe from the player that he replaced
[02:39:15] And this guy at first you could tell that he was a bit nervous and uncomfortable with this team
[02:39:20] Not because of like problems within them, but you know, he's put in an environment
[02:39:23] He's unfamiliar with but over the course of this year this guy has leveled up
[02:39:26] non-stop and we even saw him like 1v3 killing people with an Aegis. We see
[02:39:32] hit like oh it's right here where he's literally by himself and gets the two
[02:39:35] man shackle a little bonus on the Connell there taking the clutch roast plays
[02:39:39] where like there's been countless Aegis snatches throughout the course of this
[02:39:43] tournament this guy performs well in the early game in the laning stage fitting
[02:39:46] in well with BB team and then also has that clutch factor where he he's just
[02:39:50] reliable and I think that's the most important thing a carry can be reliable
[02:39:54] stable and clutching it out when it matters, that seems like a perfect recipe for success
[02:39:59] here for Brigadier.
[02:40:00] Yeah, anything else you need?
[02:40:01] You know, reliable, stable, clutch, like what else you need?
[02:40:04] I don't know, a cool guy.
[02:40:05] Yes, yes, yes, he provides, he provides.
[02:40:08] I think the one thing that maybe some other carry players that we're still gonna see later,
[02:40:14] pocket picks, unusual picks.
[02:40:15] Is he a Mibo player?
[02:40:16] I don't think so.
[02:40:17] He's played, I mean, I don't know if he's a Mibo player, but he definitely has restricted
[02:40:22] his hero pool like in accordance to what the meta dictates but he has a very wide hero pool so
[02:40:28] this guy can definitely go out of the structure, think outside the box you know if he needs to
[02:40:33] so I think he has a lot more to show that is like the goodness also for BB team and
[02:40:37] how exceptional he is as a player indeed. Yeah he's gonna need it because he is in the grand finals
[02:40:41] with his team and they still need an opponent because our first semi-finals it was a quite
[02:40:47] quick one, I'll say that. But we have another semi-finals coming your way. Yandex vs P-Vision
[02:40:54] is going to be a super hype one. Can't wait for that one, but I'll be honest, I also have
[02:41:00] something else that I'm very curious about and that I'm very excited about to finally get to watch.
[02:41:06] I did not know I needed this in my life, and maybe on the hindsight I'll say that I did not,
[02:41:11] But we did put Tyler-1 and Slacks in a room to see what happens.
[02:41:18] The human body was built to move.
[02:41:22] Not trapped at a desk in one singular posture for 12 hours a day.
[02:41:29] It's time your chair evolved.
[02:41:32] This is Secret Lab Titan Evo.
[02:41:37] Ergonomically engineered for you.
[02:41:39] Games, hybrid workers, artists, you are in every move.
[02:42:09] I'm absolutely awesome as always.
[02:42:26] Wow, that is fantastic.
[02:42:27] All right, great.
[02:42:28] Well, I guess we should just get things started here.
[02:42:30] I could probably start so you can steal all of my ideas and claim that they're yours.
[02:42:34] League of Legends.
[02:42:35] I'm not.
[02:42:36] I mean, it's all good.
[02:42:37] Legends obviously exists, but Dota is a superior game. You guys took everything about Dota copied it did it worse
[02:42:44] I'm not gonna cut them off. I'm not gonna go ahead. I cannot bear to see this guy talk
[02:42:48] Please no, he's lanky pale bald unlike me true terrible at games
[02:42:52] I can tell brother Dota has built in lag built in lag burn rate is built in lag Wow
[02:42:59] That is actually impressive a clown game. That's it. You know what I have built in like was it was like
[02:43:04] Oh, it's the balance the range and the melee characters
[02:43:06] It's just you guys don't have hands. You have no micro. You have no mechanics. Oh, that's really sure
[02:43:10] I'm sure you can you can click that makes a lot of sense that you don't like turning
[02:43:13] I mean your traps are so big you barely turn your goddamn head
[02:43:17] That's not it. So I'm a big fan. I think you look great. Listen turn rate is a big deal
[02:43:21] It's called skill my friend. You got to be a planning stuff being able to follow stuff. Look at stuff. It's a big deal
[02:43:26] Yeah, okay, and then the didn't even turn this guy has no idea
[02:43:31] Okay, your ability to follow action is not good because you're a league player
[02:43:35] You don't get it and that's okay. Okay, that's turn rate
[02:43:45] I played Dota yeah, and I got almost to gold wait as a punch player
[02:43:51] Why are you defending Lee? Didn't you get banned from that game?
[02:43:54] Yes, but I'm grown. I've matured am I unreasonable you play Dota when you got banned from league. Am I right?
[02:44:01] Yeah, that's the way I play that game, it was the most why did you stop playing Dota?
[02:44:04] I think can you tell us nothing else because I didn't contact you and say stop
[02:44:09] That is not what happened. I got bored of it. So terrible. Ah, okay
[02:44:13] I'm sure you would get bored of it. That is interesting for you now enough. He's ready to add
[02:44:17] Female characters. Okay. That's okay. That I'm not I'm not saying Lee. I'm not saying that either
[02:44:22] I'm gonna say Lee legend is perfect
[02:44:24] But listen, I will say this Dota has a mechanic where you can buy back as well. You can you can it's called spending money
[02:44:30] Yeah, it's called you made a misplay here's to get a jail free card
[02:44:34] Well, no no in Dota our players spend money in the game instead of out of the game to buy a $500 autograph that they never wanted
[02:44:42] Now I get it turn rate is a big deal, but I heard league has turned
[02:44:46] Turn what oh sorry. It's not turn rate. It's turn over rate of this guy. This guy has rehearsed
[02:44:54] Yes, that maybe the staff but people play the game well, which one the legends
[02:45:00] It's one of the most popular games in the world for years. Yeah
[02:45:09] The only people that play don't have like European players that is true
[02:45:13] I mean Dota does not have a lot of players and you guys are so much bigger than us
[02:45:16] I completely agree. There's a lot of people that eat fast food instead of going to a three-star Michelin restaurant
[02:45:22] I would not wait now. There's something America has a whole not insult
[02:45:25] I mean league players. How about the league players in like Korea?
[02:45:29] I don't know a namesake pro Dota player.
[02:45:31] Who's a who's a shelf Dota player?
[02:45:34] We don't want you to know.
[02:45:35] Everyone's always like don't even know how to play.
[02:45:37] Because nobody watches the game.
[02:45:39] I do it.
[02:45:40] Dude if a lot of people advertise Dota 2,
[02:45:42] then we'd have a bunch of goddamn league players.
[02:45:44] You think I want to play with those guys?
[02:45:45] God damn.
[02:45:46] You don't have players in your games
[02:45:47] that even queue you up.
[02:45:48] I don't know.
[02:45:49] I don't know.
[02:45:50] I don't know.
[02:45:51] I don't know.
[02:45:52] I don't know.
[02:45:53] I don't know.
[02:45:54] I don't know.
[02:45:55] I don't know.
[02:45:56] I don't know.
[02:45:57] I don't know.
[02:45:58] players in your game to even queue up. You're probably scraping the bottom of the barrel
[02:46:00] right now. I mean you do have me. Your queue time is probably 25-30 minutes. Yes. Alright
[02:46:05] you got me there. You got me there. You know here I would probably surrender but unlike
[02:46:09] a league player I'm not a f***ing so I'll keep going. I'm surprised. You are so good
[02:46:14] at debating for a guy that has no ability to talk in his game. I can talk in my game.
[02:46:18] No you can't. They said it's coming. Oh is that coming? It's coming soon. I like the
[02:46:23] Replay system is that coming how it's coming soon soon guys just spend a little bit more money unlocking heroes when they're done with
[02:46:30] The fighting champions when they're called the card game. They're called champion. They'll get to that
[02:46:36] Because we like is it's like a
[02:46:38] Their owners like a they can take over the industry in different fields other than just that's really interesting take that's a claim
[02:46:45] Yeah, wait a minute. I mean
[02:46:47] Let me retract that, let me retract that, let me retract that, let me retract that.
[02:46:51] No, it's fine.
[02:46:52] Yo, if it goes bad, you can just re-release Jinx for the 40th time, I'm sure that would
[02:46:55] work.
[02:46:56] They're just lying for cameras.
[02:46:57] Now put it back in, put it back in the card game.
[02:46:59] How about Arcade, Arcade did well.
[02:47:01] Arcade?
[02:47:02] Where's the, where's Dota Show?
[02:47:03] That is actually...
[02:47:04] Nobody knows where Dota is.
[02:47:05] You got us there, I mean our anime was not as good.
[02:47:07] It is so surprising how much league players love league when they don't have to play that
[02:47:11] f***ing game.
[02:47:12] It was huge, dude.
[02:47:13] Okay, that's, that's good.
[02:47:14] Hey, you know what? You got some great points. I got some great points. I gotta say though, at least we can agree. We both hate FPSs.
[02:47:20] This guy drives me crazy. We hate FPSs, am I right?
[02:47:22] I was lucky there's camera crew and people here. We might be a physical object.
[02:47:25] Alright, we are fine. We are fine. We both hate FPSs at low.
[02:47:28] True! True! True!
[02:47:29] Absolute garbage. We're meta class, baby! We're mobile players!
[02:47:33] Alright, thank you very much. It's solved.
[02:47:37] Oh, you're a heresy fucker. I never heard anything!
[02:47:39] What is that easy?
[02:47:41] One, two, three, four, and a five.
[02:47:48] Okay, a five against Stone.
[02:47:50] Not bad.
[02:47:51] And who's the winner?
[02:47:53] We are once again here at the Sold Out STC Arena of the League of Legends semi-final day.
[02:47:58] The French are playing against SKT, Ginny, and it is a hell of an atmosphere.
[02:48:03] No, it is incredible. The KC fans have joined.
[02:48:06] It is a very important match, T1 against KC in the semifinals.
[02:48:11] And just to really put it into perspective, I'm going to need a little pan around FD audience
[02:48:16] because it's sold out. 7,000 seats and the blue wall which is the KC, Vanda is present.
[02:48:24] But also for the club championship points, this is quite an important point.
[02:48:27] Yeah, honestly, don't know what you said, Jimmy.
[02:48:29] Well, I agree with absolutely everything that you did.
[02:48:31] It is absolutely packed out and yeah, I'm going to be hanging out a little bit.
[02:48:35] I'm not going to lie to her, please don't hit me, please don't hit me.
[02:48:38] Come here guys, come here.
[02:48:40] It is time for our second semi-finals here on the stage,
[02:49:09] We're watching Dota 2 at Esports World Cup and we got ourselves Yandex versus P-Vision coming your way.
[02:49:15] A lot of people would have expected to see these two teams already both in the Grand Finals,
[02:49:18] but there will be only space for the one.
[02:49:21] We also have a slight change here on the panel. Still 7, we have Lacoste now as well. Lacoste, how are you doing?
[02:49:26] I'm doing good. She were absolutely excited to see this one because this is the Grand Finals before the actual Grand Finals
[02:49:32] because both of these teams, I think they showed so far the best Dota that they've seen.
[02:49:36] We've seen good of the VV team, but I think these two teams are just a tiny bit better.
[02:49:41] So unfortunately, we're not going to be seeing both of them in the grand finals because both
[02:49:45] of them only dropped one game so far and it's going to be very interesting and it's going
[02:49:49] to come down to the like tiniest things when it comes down to execution, to drafts and
[02:49:53] what these teams have prepared so far.
[02:49:55] Yes, this is the grand semi-finals as they call it, as we call it.
[02:50:00] Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
[02:50:03] definitely is. I think it's kind of crazy to think that every player we got to hear from,
[02:50:09] from literally every group, every team, they are naming, you know, Yandex or Pivish, all of them.
[02:50:14] They're like, they're one step ahead. Everybody knows. I think they have terrified everybody in
[02:50:19] practice also in streams, both of them. They have pretty different playstyle, in my opinion,
[02:50:24] and different hero kits. So I think that's like the most interesting part where like they have
[02:50:28] different reads on the meta. So you always love to see ideas clashes, like idea clashes, knowing
[02:50:35] that it's going to be executed to the best of its abilities and therefore we'll get the truth.
[02:50:43] Who's better? Which ideas are better? Which heroes are better? How to break meta heroes?
[02:50:49] What is it that you cannot deal with and you should be banning and whatnot? Obviously,
[02:50:53] they're both back with great coaches.
[02:50:55] Puppy is involved in this game somehow.
[02:50:58] You know, he's always there.
[02:51:00] So you'll have to see it in some of these faces.
[02:51:03] I mean, you know, no one, Puppy, look at this.
[02:51:05] I mean, these guys have been around for, what, 10 years, 15 years?
[02:51:08] Longer than that, yeah.
[02:51:09] And they're here, you know, all their way to the grand finals
[02:51:12] and we talk about them as being absolute favorites.
[02:51:14] You have to put some respect on that.
[02:51:15] Oh, absolutely.
[02:51:16] I think one interesting thing is both of the offlaners,
[02:51:19] they play for other teams as well.
[02:51:21] So they kind of slopped and this is also going to give them, I would say both then will have the upper hand in terms of like understanding how the other team wants to play, because they have also been very successful.
[02:51:31] They have been on the top with the different rosters as well.
[02:51:34] So it's going to be very interesting, especially like the duo from the off lane, how they're going to approach this because I feel like having inside info from some of these teams definitely going to benefit them.
[02:51:45] But we rarely see where both of the players kind of wait for the teams are going to be very cool.
[02:51:50] Yeah, they've been very open about talking about that, and that it is, it wasn't even a player-skill thing.
[02:51:57] It's synergy and vibes, and those are very important to get the right team together.
[02:52:03] And both of these offlaners, they found their right team, respectively, by just swapping around.
[02:52:10] So we're focusing our attention on Yandex first, and we are going to hear DM talk about how he feels being integrated in Yandex.
[02:52:20] It was amazing to join the Yandex because I play in a team which is full of high school
[02:52:26] players and great personalities, so I'm really happy for this opportunity.
[02:52:31] The difference of the Yandex team compared to all my other teams is that here people
[02:52:37] are the most professional in terms of communicating to each other, in terms of playing, in terms
[02:52:42] of approaching the game.
[02:52:44] I think I learned a lot in this team already, even though it was like a little monster or
[02:52:49] because when you play Dota with really good players, you're involving every single day.
[02:52:53] And I think that's what's happening here.
[02:52:55] When getting new consoles, getting the ideas and empowering the ideas they have,
[02:52:59] I think I'm getting better.
[02:53:14] For me, it feels better to not think about any team,
[02:53:18] Like I don't care if anything puts in a view like a door or like an apple, playing the
[02:53:22] Turbler to the left, you know.
[02:53:23] It was better playing against heroes and we'll give it a down about which we went against.
[02:53:28] We did not win this side to the ramp yet.
[02:53:30] It's hard to think about winning the event, like, and I'm really focused on playing the
[02:53:34] playoffs.
[02:53:35] I'm just like focused on doing my best and it's going to be enough, well, that's great.
[02:53:40] They have not faced an event like this before, but they have been in Grand Finals.
[02:53:48] They took three titles this year, so no stranger to being in the best of five and coming out
[02:53:55] on top as well.
[02:53:57] This is a team that hasn't been around for that long.
[02:53:59] This is the first season there together, and especially, of course, with DM joining only
[02:54:03] towards the second half of the season, these five players, because how far they've come
[02:54:08] is quite incredible.
[02:54:09] Oh, absolutely. I mean, if you look at the players that are on the squad, like for example,
[02:54:15] DM, he has been on multiple teams, but didn't really find much success. I think for me,
[02:54:20] personally, he was the most improved player of the previous season. Like he was just the
[02:54:24] shining star of the team. And also Watson, like he has been grinding for a really long
[02:54:29] time, but was unable to find a really cool spot for him. He was unable to win the tournaments.
[02:54:34] And like, you could definitely feel that he was there always, but like just needed that
[02:54:38] extra bit of once and I think ever since this team has been formed him like this
[02:54:42] is his new home which is where he gets to shine. I like the synergy a lot with the
[02:54:46] team like in terms of playstyle to me like I know Dm really well he's been
[02:54:50] on the OG with I've actually been a teammate of us for a while and and he's
[02:54:53] the kind of person that actually the same with Saksa like I realized I have a
[02:54:57] lot of information because I fear with most of his players but like Dm
[02:55:01] basically he has a clear understanding of what he wants to see happen for his own
[02:55:04] game and it's not like he's taking space he's actually making space but he's
[02:55:08] very clear headed and I think it gives a lot of freedom to supports and especially
[02:55:12] you give that freedom to someone like Saksa which really excels at
[02:55:15] understanding hey how do I impact the map as much as possible like he's always
[02:55:19] gonna be doing the right thing whether it's because that's support life in Dota
[02:55:22] now you could be stacking you could be playing for your lane you could be
[02:55:24] gating you could be checking your own so you could be you could be doing a million
[02:55:27] different things so understanding you know having this clear and high level
[02:55:31] of understanding of Dota like hey this is how you utilize my time the best and I
[02:55:35] I think DM really enables that, so there's like a lot of synergy in that team
[02:55:38] in really putting these players in the best conditions to kind of express their potential.
[02:55:43] Yeah, I think also for all the players involved on Yandex,
[02:55:47] some of them know peeking at the right time is important and they have done so in the past,
[02:55:51] and I also feel like they are peeking right now at the same time, because I feel like they have
[02:55:56] incredibly high base line.
[02:55:58] Oh, absolutely. I mean, this is the team that like sucks at, he brings a lot experience to the team.
[02:56:04] he won TI, you know, this is the guy that also just I think stabilizes most of the lineups
[02:56:11] every single time that he joins, like when he first joined at the last like at the end of 2025,
[02:56:19] he was just a stand-in for the team, but you can definitely feel like the magic already happening
[02:56:24] within the team, and you know, they're like, you know what sucks, I'm pretty good, we're gonna
[02:56:28] decide to pick him up, but he's kind of okay, he's kind of good, you know, okay players, so
[02:56:32] Yeah, I can't really blame them for that, because he just had success, like he's definitely,
[02:56:38] when we talk about the position 4 with the, you know, Goat status, he is definitely up there.
[02:56:43] Yeah, we got Pete Vision on the other side, speaking of success, this team is having some success this year as well.
[02:56:50] Now, they only took one title, but they are also very much peaking at the right time.
[02:56:56] And of course, we heard from one off-laner before. We're hearing from the other one now. Let's listen to notice.
[02:57:02] In this team, I feel really good because there are a lot of good players in this team and I know these guys and I'm really happy to join in the end of this season.
[02:57:14] This is not my first tournament and first season in ProSense. We want to play better every day and for win this tournament, we need to play better because we know our mistakes and we need to fix it.
[02:57:25] Every day we learn something new. We play screens, we play official games, we play pubs and we watch games.
[02:57:37] And sometimes, yeah, we have something new, because everything can change.
[02:57:42] You try hard for this, you win this, and that's really big tournament like TI now, you know.
[02:57:48] We can beat every team, every team can beat us, you know, and everything decided in your game,
[02:57:55] by individual, game by decisions, you know, hard moments, you know, prepare for every team like our last chance.
[02:58:07] We can beat every team, and every team can beat us.
[02:58:11] Well, I looked at the stats a little bit and said,
[02:58:14] I was going to say first half of the statement, very true, second half, just him being humble.
[02:58:26] But no, you're actually going there.
[02:58:28] Well, again, whatever happened in the past isn't relevant anymore.
[02:58:32] As far as I'm concerned, this is like, you know, EWC semifinals.
[02:58:36] Everything can happen.
[02:58:37] To me, the big difference between these two teams, if I had to pinpoint it is, I think
[02:58:42] On PVG side, it's a little bit more like Star Roster, like the raw power of what they can bring to a game.
[02:58:50] I think the ceiling is a little bit higher, that is my take, you know, I think of pairs like No1 or Satanic, 9th class, I mean all of them, really.
[02:58:56] But so I feel like sometimes they can like perform above expectations, you can get these moments where you're like, what the hell just happened?
[02:59:03] Like this is just crazy. Like they're not supposed to get out of the chokehold, but they will, but you can also have the counterpart of it,
[02:59:09] which is like they will sometimes go for plays or make mistakes that you're not going to see on Yandex's side.
[02:59:14] So to me, I feel like you kind of know where Yandex is going to be and it's going to be very, very high.
[02:59:21] PVGN, they could either top it or just not be even close to contest challenging it.
[02:59:27] So, and I don't know what we're getting today.
[02:59:29] A little more variable.
[02:59:31] Yeah, but that's what we like about this team because like even with the previous squad,
[02:59:35] They also had this issue where sometimes they're like 5-10k gold ahead and suddenly they are dropping the ball and the game is like
[02:59:42] Extending for another 20-30 minutes. They're still gonna win that game
[02:59:46] But a lot of times like this is something that shouldn't happen
[02:59:49] I think they got much much better as the time progressed especially under poppy's coaching and something that poppy also said
[02:59:55] During one of his interviews is you know back when he was a player
[02:59:59] He was very stubborn something that he was like, you know, I'll try to be it if something's broken
[03:00:05] I'll try to find a way how to beat it now as a coach.
[03:00:07] She's like, you know what, let's just ban it.
[03:00:10] So maybe one of the reasons why they also have like so much success
[03:00:13] because they do realize what's really good, like what's really in the
[03:00:18] and they take care of it by just removing it.
[03:00:20] I think this is going to be very interesting overall series
[03:00:23] to see like the drafting approach because seems like they've been on top of the game.
[03:00:27] Like seems like they understand meta better than anybody else.
[03:00:30] So far in the tournament and it's going to be like very interesting to see
[03:00:33] like all these small things they also talked about it yesterday about maybe you know thrown in some extra
[03:00:38] extra heroes but we'll have to see what's gonna happen because we see teams actually bringing in some
[03:00:43] new stuff like maybe exchanging not like necessarily the like the whole squad like not the what they
[03:00:50] want to go for with the draft it's just like one piece of equation is removed but they would kind of
[03:00:56] replace it with the pretty much the same hero so gotta be very interesting yeah it'll be very
[03:01:01] interesting also, I think P-Vision, this is a squad that has had very high highs and also a couple
[03:01:08] of lows here and there. It's something that they're also being very vocal about, that that's ability
[03:01:13] that maybe the DMX has that P-Vision is searching for, they are actively searching for it and it
[03:01:20] comes to fruition with my class being, per their words, caged in.
[03:01:25] Yeah, I think this player to me is, you know, I used to play with Jarex and to me he reminds
[03:01:31] me of him in a sense like they have their own thing going on and you know, back in the
[03:01:36] days, you know, I'm kind of described Jarex with like, you know, he's like, it's like
[03:01:39] a dog chasing a ball except you don't see the ball.
[03:01:42] You just have to go after the dog and just believe that he's taking you there.
[03:01:45] And I don't mean, I mean, this is in the mold, like as the biggest compliment ever, it's
[03:01:49] like, don't even try to understand what's going on in his mind.
[03:01:51] it's just too elaborate, too complex to just just go on like jump on board with him you know and he
[03:01:57] will take you there. He will take you to places you've never seen in Dota. To me he's exceptionally
[03:02:02] good at the game and he can always be their X Factor. He can be the difference maker in any
[03:02:06] game and he's narrow. We're gonna find out if he is the X Factor for P-Vision in our upcoming series
[03:02:13] and with that also if P-Vision does end up winning the series it means that 9th class will play
[03:02:18] Grand finals on his birthday. Now, that's always a kind of special. I would imagine but getting way
[03:02:23] ahead of myself We got the grand semi finals coming your way and to get it started. We're heading over to the stage
[03:02:31] Thank you, Mo so much shiver and friends. Yes, the grand
[03:02:35] Semi finals I gotta say that's a great way to put it two teams that everybody thought would be in that grand finals now here
[03:02:42] Fighting with only one game lost between them crazy
[03:02:45] You know we get it like a little taste of what could happen in the grand final
[03:02:49] But that's what you expect when you see teams at this level of competition
[03:02:52] Is that every single game is a tough fight to get that to that eventual end to the whole tournament?
[03:02:58] Honestly though, I just have to
[03:03:01] I just have to really flame you there for a moment because sure you told me that semi-final just before it's gonna be a bloodbath
[03:03:07] Well, it was a bloodbath
[03:03:10] Not the competitive kind of bloodbath, but it's certainly
[03:03:13] Well, team did get bloody.
[03:03:16] Hey, you know what?
[03:03:17] The dreams of the underdogs are all done.
[03:03:20] And you know what?
[03:03:21] This is though.
[03:03:22] This ain't no fairytale.
[03:03:23] You know the best players are going to be the top three teams,
[03:03:27] and we have the best of the best here today.
[03:03:29] You ready to get this party started, Mr. Milosh?
[03:03:31] Let's get it going.
[03:03:32] Who's our first team?
[03:03:33] Our first team, my friends.
[03:03:35] You know them.
[03:03:36] You love them.
[03:03:37] You said that they would win this tournament,
[03:03:39] and they are on the path.
[03:03:41] Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
[03:03:42] Please welcome to the stage, Yandex!
[03:03:49] Team Yandex has looked unstoppable before this tournament.
[03:03:54] They looked unstoppable in the groups.
[03:03:56] And now, the only time you're going to see this team stop is when they stop right next to me.
[03:04:01] That's it. These guys are on a roller coaster right now with no end in sight.
[03:04:07] Absolutely incredible place so far.
[03:04:10] And there might only be one team that people think might be able to stop.
[03:04:15] That's basically the best way that I could put it, because on the other side,
[03:04:19] it is a team that has only been going up. Please join me in welcoming to our stage,
[03:04:24] B-Vision!
[03:04:29] Well, last year of the Esports World Cup, you saw these guys bow out at third place.
[03:04:34] Yes, they were knocked out, but eventually in the semis by the winners of the entire tournament.
[03:04:39] of the entire tournament. Team Spirit though, they are done.
[03:04:41] They're dusted with their goodbye, not even a word about them.
[03:04:45] And look who survives here on our stage.
[03:04:48] Ever since at that third place, they have hungered for more.
[03:04:52] And look at that a year later, they're back in on the main stage.
[03:04:55] And this time, only one little hurdle away from the Grand Flam.
[03:04:59] Absolutely. Very cute.
[03:05:01] They did lose to Team Spirit last year, but who beat Team Spirit this year?
[03:05:05] I must say, almost like it meant nothing to them.
[03:05:07] Yes, indeed.
[03:05:09] So this will be quite a battle between two very tested teams.
[03:05:12] Gentlemen, we're ready to go.
[03:05:14] All right, got some nods.
[03:05:15] We're going to place your keys to your stations.
[03:05:18] Off you go to the races.
[03:05:20] We will see.
[03:05:21] If we can get that handshake here today,
[03:05:23] there's a lot of respect they've got.
[03:05:25] Hey!
[03:05:28] Looks like the teams are set, my friend.
[03:05:30] All I can tell you is we're going to go all three games,
[03:05:33] 95 minutes per game.
[03:05:35] That's what I'm expecting out of this,
[03:05:37] Because these two are going to go blow for blow. That is it from us.
[03:05:41] Let's get this party started. Back to the panel.
[03:05:50] Key vision. I think they are one of the toughest teams of the U.S.K. lately.
[03:05:54] People have been rating them as the best.
[03:05:56] I think they are a good match up for us. I think usually done pretty well, I guess.
[03:05:59] Even if they are in good shape. So I think we feel a bit confident, but not cocky or anything like that.
[03:06:04] I think we can always play better, but I mean, we didn't face a real open and kind of this tournament to be true.
[03:06:32] We didn't fit some real team.
[03:06:34] Maybe we're just good items.
[03:06:47] I think if we talk about this event and our chances,
[03:06:50] it's all about the match against Team Yandex.
[03:06:52] I think we are the two strongest teams of the tournament,
[03:06:55] so I guess it's like the match for the grand final winner.
[03:07:02] How does it come down? How does Sass come down from Chira?
[03:07:05] Are they going to kill off Malady in the meantime as Chira does get out with his life?
[03:07:08] If I had to rate our ass between 3 and 5, I think 50-50, I would say.
[03:07:12] I'm not sure. It just depends which team is better on that day, which team has better ideas going into the match.
[03:07:16] I don't think that's going to decide a lot.
[03:07:18] It's 50-50. You either win or lose.
[03:07:21] They're all under initiation, still hit coffee, all the trade protectors in trouble.
[03:07:24] Getting solved some, no chance for no growth, which means he's kind of stuck battling it out,
[03:07:29] Looking for an Aegis kill, that's it.
[03:07:32] Power of the family, with a perfect block.
[03:07:35] A rampage block, rampage across the map for Satanic.
[03:07:42] It is 50-50, apparently, as our players said it themselves.
[03:07:47] And Asakusa is confident, not cocky, going into this one.
[03:07:51] I think also both teams would say the same.
[03:07:54] For this upcoming best of three, we're also getting an extra voice to the mix.
[03:07:58] Hello, Effie. Welcome to the Grand Semi-Finals.
[03:08:01] Hey, Sheeves. I'm super excited. I mean, watching these players and how they talk about each other
[03:08:05] and how much they respect each other, we're in for a treat here.
[03:08:08] Oh, absolutely. I mean, you can definitely feel the respect.
[03:08:11] But I also want to go back to something that DM said in an interview.
[03:08:14] He said that he doesn't see the players. He sees kind of heroes,
[03:08:18] which I can definitely, like, see what he meant by it,
[03:08:21] because, like, in every single game, you don't really care, like,
[03:08:24] care like whether this is some like guy named X whether that's like whatever his name is you're
[03:08:29] like how do we counter certain heroes maybe you need to you know it's pretty basic but definitely
[03:08:35] something to like make yourself easier when you're playing on the stage to relieve yourself
[03:08:41] self off the pressure has also gonna be kind of cool to see because they they seem to be putting
[03:08:46] quite a lot of respect on each other and they say like yeah anybody who has a better draft maybe
[03:08:51] be just the better Dota day that day is going to be winning this one.
[03:08:55] Yeah, I would say these two teams are pretty evenly matched in terms of individual skill,
[03:08:59] in terms of them.
[03:09:21] you
[03:09:51] you
[03:10:21] you
[03:10:51] you
[03:11:21] you
[03:11:51] I played Erson then for Watson that they were talking about maybe this tiny being played
[03:12:04] mid with the keeper of the light essentially or maybe just being played as a support.
[03:12:08] Damp as a 4, I mean you have one of the best pairing this has, then D go to lane, we did
[03:12:13] mention enigma that could come out with the tiny 4, it's still doable, this is not a strong
[03:12:18] position 4 by any means but he also seemed as you mentioned good amount of
[03:12:21] tinies played from the mid lane maybe not so much here I'd say caught a lot more
[03:12:26] in TI qualifiers where people were picking up the blink dagger into agatom
[03:12:30] scepter build and then like casual crystal is in the BKB chart of scale
[03:12:33] of the battery wally and the coddle down pretty solid here because that would
[03:12:37] have been the hero to enable this tiny being played on different lanes
[03:12:42] Yeah, overall not a lot of supports are left in that are very popular, other than the Hoodwink
[03:12:49] of course, which is still one of the most picked heroes here as she is very good, just
[03:12:54] not good enough to be banned that often.
[03:12:56] I think she's still very solid, like if we're talking about lane enablers, Hoodwink and Dark
[03:13:00] Willow are the best in this tournament in terms of we're just gonna secure it without
[03:13:04] really seeing what we're up against.
[03:13:06] And Nine Class has looked really good on his Dark Willow in particular, outside of Earth
[03:13:11] spirit being his standout hero.
[03:13:15] Is there any particular hero you would want to pair up with the Darkseer that you'd want to ban out?
[03:13:21] Because Pivision has the chance to ban out the Earth Spirit if they don't want to pick it,
[03:13:24] which is of course a combo with the Darkseer.
[03:13:27] Is that a strong enough combo to ban if you're not planning on picking it?
[03:13:33] I think Earth Spirit in and of itself can be addressed.
[03:13:37] Like, if we've seen if Earth Spirit gets picked without a Dark Seer, it's a weaker support,
[03:13:41] so then it gets thrown on that mid lane, and then if you're playing Earth Spirit mid,
[03:13:44] you can get Slardard, for example, you could get Hoss Guard.
[03:13:47] There is potential there.
[03:13:49] I do think for this Dark Seer, though, you can seek to take it for yourself, or take a Clockwork, or a Toss...
[03:13:55] Yeah, so far, Soxa didn't really play any melee heroes.
[03:13:59] He has been playing exclusively ranged supports, which also works with Dark Seer,
[03:14:03] not in a sense where you're going to be rushing in with the Iron Shell on you,
[03:14:07] but also just for the stabilized lanes that are just completely pulling it.
[03:14:11] But yeah, if you go for more position 5-4s melee-oriented heroes,
[03:14:15] definitely going to be Clockwork, definitely going to be Tusk.
[03:14:18] Maybe I'm just a believer in Tusk as a hero because the hero has everything.
[03:14:23] Hoodwink, this hero just stabilizes quite a lot of off lanes.
[03:14:26] It gives you everything, good laning stage, good scaling,
[03:14:28] break mechanic against some of the more annoying heroes as well.
[03:14:31] Yeah, you pick your blind and now you have this kill combo
[03:14:33] between the Tiny and Hoodwink where if your Tiny goes in with that avalanche
[03:14:36] After the laning stage, you know you're going to have follow-up damage.
[03:14:39] Make it easier. It does feel like this tournament,
[03:14:41] whichever team has that first easy play after the laning stage gets a big lead,
[03:14:46] because they'll take the mid tower off better, the top tier one.
[03:14:49] Like we saw Vayne and Murana be so effective,
[03:14:51] because one good movement would just equal a tower in the early game.
[03:14:56] Yeah, you kind of want to have that one-two combo that you can always, like,
[03:15:00] have.
[03:15:06] you
[03:15:36] you
[03:16:06] you
[03:16:36] you
[03:17:06] you
[03:17:36] you
[03:17:38] We're going to do this now.
[03:17:54] And CJ's mid-slaughter comes out when you see this Ember spirit at this stage you just
[03:18:05] have to counter pick it.
[03:18:06] And honestly people have been moved away from Huskar as an idea for counter picks and just
[03:18:12] moved towards the slaughter to punish the spirits from the mid lane and CJ has looked
[03:18:16] the best out of all of the mid-slaughters in this tournament.
[03:18:19] Well, we've got two picks needed still at the end of it all, and we're now in the final
[03:18:24] band phase.
[03:18:25] On the side of Yandex it looks like we are still needing a hero for Watson, and if he's
[03:18:29] going to lane with a Tusk, we're probably going to see some ranged carries being banned
[03:18:33] out.
[03:18:34] Shanafiend and Drow both still in the pool for now.
[03:18:36] On the other side we are looking for a hero for notice, the offlaner of Pivision, and
[03:18:41] we already have Dawnbreaker removed from the pool to make sure he doesn't get his hands
[03:18:45] on that.
[03:18:46] Yeah, Donbaker would have been a great hero for him because it counters a lot of the ranged heroes online like the SFs and the Drows.
[03:18:57] I do wonder if Terrorblade is in contention. I mean, I feel like every carry player who sees an enemy play Tiny is thinking, can I fit TB into this draw?
[03:19:05] Probably, but they also watched a couple of games, especially the last one where TB he doesn't really have a really strong timing to play for.
[03:19:13] play for and I feel like this year was just not that good at the moment and a lot of these
[03:19:18] elimination series like where it really matters you're gonna be going towards like we're going
[03:19:24] back to some of the old school carries which a lot of teams do go for I would be okay if they go
[03:19:30] with something like a maybe like a clink's maybe potentially even tempo assassin or yandex I think
[03:19:38] it would give them quite a lot of tempo just the burst damage the synergy that they have
[03:19:42] with Slardar you want to be having that hero that is going to be like shutting down these heroes with
[03:19:47] three or four hits. Yeah between those two that you suggested I prefer TA to Clanks just because
[03:19:52] I think Clanks is susceptible to Toss Box whereas TA you're just going to be taking those objectives
[03:19:57] way earlier and bursting that tiny faster with Slardar. Looking at Yandex's draft they have this
[03:20:05] first pick Darkseer and there's no punish really from the side of P-Vision outside of picking a
[03:20:10] strong laner in Tiny. Like there are no dispells for the iron shell plus surge combination and
[03:20:15] now that they have the slaughter we know that they're going to be running at them. The second
[03:20:18] Darkseer gets one or two items. This slaughter is just in with that iron shell and it's just
[03:20:23] going to be go go go and I don't think P vision have enough to defend against that right now.
[03:20:30] A lot of damage. This is the SOTA slaughter. Heroes are going to melt. The play supports have
[03:20:37] extra bit of like evasion coming up from this one the shadow realm so you have some protection
[03:20:43] for the offlane noticed he has been the shining star pretty much of the tournament he is the guy
[03:20:51] that is sitting at 1.3 average that's per game so it's going to be underlord for him thank you guy
[03:20:58] very good at aoe controlling what they want to do
[03:21:07] you
[03:21:37] you
[03:22:07] you
[03:22:37] you
[03:23:07] you
[03:23:37] The consistent and this is the best shot for them to surpass their third place at last
[03:24:05] year's TI, but angry when it comes to consistency, nobody beats Yandex of this year.
[03:24:11] Since October, Yandex have had a podium finish at every event they've attended, barring an
[03:24:16] errant PGO Valachia.
[03:24:18] Nine tournaments of top three.
[03:24:21] Now's their chance to lock in yet another Grand Finals appearance.
[03:24:25] And that is why this feels like a Grand Final in some sense.
[03:24:28] These are the two teams everyone has said are going to make it there and they only have
[03:24:32] each other in the way and there is a first blood to get this series off on the boy
[03:24:37] satanic the young gun great way to be able to start things in that early
[03:24:41] full gold boost for DM oh yeah we're still gonna have a bit of a bounty
[03:24:46] split because we've seen these dark seers have some issues in these lanes but I
[03:24:50] feel like this is a lane that you can actually do perfectly fine the synergy
[03:24:56] not great with Marana realistic there this is a lane you're just eventually
[03:25:01] gonna try and get to the Dom. You can do some creek cutting, you can do some jungling, but it's
[03:25:04] not a high pressure lane. Satanic is gonna free farm down here pretty much no matter what happens.
[03:25:09] So that gold injection for DM is gonna push him towards a fast helm, and that's a huge deal.
[03:25:13] You could free up the Murana to roam a little bit earlier, maybe you go in towards that mid lane,
[03:25:16] maybe you go top. Those are the two lanes that I can see going the indexes way in this early game.
[03:25:21] If the TA and the Slaughter get up to a fast start, it almost doesn't really matter what happens in
[03:25:25] this off lane. It's gonna bring the draft together, you're gonna be able to pressure objectives super
[03:25:29] early. You're gonna have a lot of physical burst damage before the armor, before the
[03:25:33] Lotus Orbs come online. That's where Sliver can get out of control. I think we should have
[03:25:36] seen more TA over the course of this tournament. I'm kind of excited to see what Watson can do
[03:25:40] on it here because I don't think this hero is broken by any means. I don't think it's the strongest
[03:25:43] day it's been in compared to some of the previous patches. But some of these games, it sneaks through
[03:25:47] the draft. Like people later pick these pucks or some of these melee heroes that get abused by the
[03:25:52] Trap Fending. You feel like, man, it looks like a great TA game. I think this is a solid TA game.
[03:25:57] It's not absolutely free, not S tier, but Watson is a master on this hero and he has a lot to play with here, so hopefully he can make a shot.
[03:26:04] Well, we'll see how he gets to the lane, though, because this is a bit of a tough lane.
[03:26:08] You've got a lot of ways to run through a refraction between these two heroes.
[03:26:12] Underlord is just a natural melee hero, really, and Tusk I don't think is going to be a lane-dominant fight position up against these two heroes.
[03:26:22] There's not much he can really do up here.
[03:26:24] And if he doesn't punish one hero in this game, I feel it's this tusk
[03:26:28] This is gonna be a rough one for Malady if they're snowballing this game. Yeah, it'll look good
[03:26:34] But otherwise you're you're gonna have to play into the pits
[03:26:38] AOE Avalanche a chains a brambola terror eyes the bush whack is another a we feel like there's so much
[03:26:44] AOE control for you to go in next to your girls in this game and have impact as a tusk
[03:26:48] It almost looks impossible to ever get a snowball save all
[03:26:51] to the late game unless you have BKB on top of it.
[03:26:54] So, this is another reason why I think of Eureanix, you want to get ahead in this game.
[03:26:58] Because if you're behind and you have to play defensive fights
[03:27:00] and rely on your two supports to kind of bail you out, I don't think it's possible.
[03:27:03] There's too many follow-up stuns, there's going to be a global A-way pit,
[03:27:06] like you just can't disengage from these fights.
[03:27:09] So you either have to rely on a very strong BKB timing,
[03:27:12] or just kind of gain an edge and never let go of it and abuse faster shots.
[03:27:17] They certainly have a very low cooldown line up that if they can get ahead they can kind of just keep us with non-stop action
[03:27:24] Good snowball there for Malady got away from what I assume was a pit right on TASM
[03:27:29] At pit bramble blood grenade, he looks like he's gonna take a lot of damage, gets bailed out very nicely here
[03:27:33] Chainmail already online for this underlord though, lot of early armor investment
[03:27:38] I like it against this pure physical lane, it's gonna pay off very nicely here
[03:27:42] And I think this game is gonna come down these two off-layers, maybe this series
[03:27:46] These two offlaners have had some crazy games over their runs in EWC here, and these teams are relying on them to help control the map.
[03:27:56] That's the biggest thing that I think they share in terms of similarities.
[03:27:59] They both play these Dark Seers, Centaur, Undead archetype heroes.
[03:28:02] Maybe a big one will come out in this series because they're pushing waves constantly.
[03:28:05] They're being really in line with the Dom creeps.
[03:28:07] They're giving their teams a lot of information and map control to play off of.
[03:28:10] That also gives them a lot of farm to make their impact felt in the teamfight itself.
[03:28:15] There's going to be a lot of overlap in this all-plane hero pool in this series,
[03:28:18] and it might come down to who gets, like, you know, that extra one-way to hit their item a little faster
[03:28:22] and can join that teamfighter make that play ahead of the other here.
[03:28:26] I almost never expect Centaur to go through here.
[03:28:29] It's just been too powerful for those two teams.
[03:28:33] What do you make of this Darkseer lay? Because he's matched up against a melee hero.
[03:28:36] We've seen many of the ranged matchups that Darkseer suffers in lane,
[03:28:39] but at the same time, it feels like there is almost no value to the wall in this game.
[03:28:45] Pretty terrible wall game. Now you're using it as the slow and chaos of the fight rather than any illusion hero.
[03:28:50] Tiny is very good against Darkseer for a lot of these reasons.
[03:28:53] Hard hero to burn out with shells, the wall's not really effective against his right click.
[03:28:58] Surge is not that great against avalanche toss.
[03:29:01] So you get a lot going for it. You get a nice courier snipe with some boots on it, that's a value.
[03:29:05] You can start pulling the weights, which would wink not going to be the best at being able to stop that.
[03:29:10] DM those lose the aggro there for a second and this is gonna be soon the time
[03:29:17] where Sox is gonna be freed up to make rotation where he wants his arrows have
[03:29:22] not been fighting the mark in that bottom lane so far maybe a bit of a warm-up
[03:29:25] for him. He's just trying to secure this helm for DM but before he leaves entirely.
[03:29:30] I thought you might have left earlier just because you got that early first blood
[03:29:35] injection like maybe DM dies if you leave him but if you can make something
[03:29:38] happen on the other lanes, it probably feels a bit better.
[03:29:41] He's about to hit level 6 for free on this Ember against a Slardar, and no fresher went
[03:29:46] into him at all to get here, so he's very happy with this situation.
[03:29:50] You can get it across to him.
[03:29:51] So the fresher is going the other way.
[03:29:52] Cheer, Junior, getting very low.
[03:29:53] Magic 1 keeps him alive for now, and now popping a parry.
[03:29:55] It's no one who now has to pop his Magic 1 to stay up and at him.
[03:30:01] That won't guarantee his level 6 here, though.
[03:30:03] No support CPs into that mid lane, still holding onto it.
[03:30:06] In fact, they are looking bottom, trying to snag a quick kill on the squirrel here.
[03:30:11] See if you can land the arrow.
[03:30:13] Two pilots are just going to dive into the right flicks here, but the Marana maybe similarly,
[03:30:16] in fact, two pilots are not dead yet.
[03:30:18] DM, the snowball, it'll finish him off, and now the DM is joined in.
[03:30:21] The Ion Shell is going to force P-Vision away as much as they can.
[03:30:26] Up to level three on that Ion Shell.
[03:30:28] You've got to be careful and support Satanic.
[03:30:29] He's a P-P-Boy, but you don't want to start chain feeding into the Starks of your lane.
[03:30:34] Looking for that Underlord 6, looking for the Ember 6, that's where you have a lot more
[03:30:39] map mobility to respond to some of these aggressive plays from Andix, and that's always going
[03:30:42] to be a concern.
[03:30:43] You want to get aggressive with this lineup, you have a lot of dive potential, Slardar,
[03:30:46] Darkseer, T8, these are all heroes that naturally dive really well, but when you commit to that
[03:30:51] dive, there's a lot of turnaround you have to play into.
[03:30:55] It's a very strong defensive lineup across the map, Underlord can always pose you problems
[03:30:59] when you're trying to get aggressive into one of the other lanes, so you really have
[03:31:02] You have to keep the mobility in mind, you have to keep the resource management in mind
[03:31:06] and pick your opportunities well here at Bureau of Endings.
[03:31:09] Going into the underlourge solves a little bit of that.
[03:31:12] Two supports rotating in because once he needs the help, your timid crates are dying under
[03:31:16] tower and he can't hit any of them.
[03:31:18] For fear of being caught by just a single disable into the firestorm might be the death
[03:31:23] event.
[03:31:24] Meanwhile, 7 minute wisdom shrines are coming up and it does look like Mel when it's a bit
[03:31:28] more free to rotate if he wants, but he is opted not to.
[03:31:32] So we're just going to have a split.
[03:31:34] No early aggression from either side,
[03:31:36] making an invasion or anything like that.
[03:31:38] P-Vision way happier with just static lanes
[03:31:41] that the Ember's doing fine and the Underlords doing fine,
[03:31:43] because there's not ever going to be pressure going
[03:31:44] into this tiny.
[03:31:46] And meanwhile, there's a decent amount going into that 10-bar
[03:31:48] assassin.
[03:31:48] And this Slardar keeps on getting low,
[03:31:51] trying to hit him with a retina,
[03:31:52] but a beautiful arrow stops that.
[03:31:54] If he hit.
[03:31:54] It's all defense, though.
[03:31:55] Yeah.
[03:31:57] And I'm looking at this Underlords denies right now.
[03:31:59] See, body, the TA up here.
[03:32:02] Watson didn't really go jungle early, he didn't do extra stacks, so you're looking at what?
[03:32:06] 22 denies on notice?
[03:32:08] His TA is down that network chart for a reason.
[03:32:11] Valide, you looking for the snowball ladder here?
[03:32:14] And he'll get it on the creep way, will he get far enough away though?
[03:32:16] He's still gonna be inside the pit, and they'll run him down.
[03:32:19] Valide just desperately trying to get even a single CS, but that just ends up yet another deny for notice.
[03:32:24] 23 denies.
[03:32:26] Completely in control.
[03:32:27] He's gonna be a beast in this game.
[03:32:29] He's a big problem here over Andix in the teamfight, especially the supports.
[03:32:33] Even the Slaughter kind of suffers, you need BKBs, or you need to get to a point where you just overwhelm his armor entirely.
[03:32:40] Which, again, when you're behind it becomes harder to do. You can have a fast loader, so if there can be creeps in this lineup,
[03:32:45] Dispels are going to be great for both teams in this game.
[03:32:49] He's the hero of the land, he's got a re-drent rune in the pocket though.
[03:32:54] They need an overwhelming amount of damage to kill him, and he's able to jump way to his remnant.
[03:32:58] Still though, they can chase after the supports, maybe get one kill here.
[03:33:01] Here comes the Underlord, though.
[03:33:03] Through the gate, or maybe not, actually gets gone on by Valadian once,
[03:33:07] and they're trying to stop him right now, hit him with a snowball once,
[03:33:09] now he's trying to get through the gate and get away from them, dies all the same.
[03:33:13] Nice pick up for them. That's such a big boon for Watson,
[03:33:16] who was otherwise losing this lane considerably.
[03:33:19] Needed the experience as well.
[03:33:21] You can always go into the jungle or do stacks as a TA,
[03:33:24] but right now, Darkseer's kind of taking your triangle,
[03:33:26] You just have to exist up here for a little more time, get a couple more levels, and then you're smooth sailing.
[03:33:33] Those traps really help secure the lane a lot more, whether you are seeing the rotations from supports, or just the slow helping you disengage from some aggression.
[03:33:44] And it's DM who has quietly overtook the Tiny and the Underlord in Network.
[03:33:50] I'm trying to battle it out with this Helmut Domecrete, Point Blank Arrow, Centaur getting
[03:33:55] in front of him, it's gonna be killed, but the damage is done, Satanic will be run down,
[03:34:00] so nice rotation back through the gate.
[03:34:02] It really felt like Yandex was struggling there in the first 6 or 7 minutes of this
[03:34:06] laning phase, but now that the rotation almost feels like they're unbubbering Pivish, I think
[03:34:12] the rotation power is stronger here in the early game.
[03:34:14] That's kind of why I wanted to see the Murana leave earlier, but it's actually made the
[03:34:18] the right call. This darts here is mega-fat. He found some clutch kills with this Murana.
[03:34:22] Now he has two more charges. Still has a blood grenade.
[03:34:25] Murana's pretty strong on the map in terms of that rolling power right now.
[03:34:29] It's going to be quite a difference of map control too because DM is slowly going to
[03:34:34] chip away at this bottom tower. They're going to bring the underlord mid to try and fight
[03:34:38] this rune. Big investment.
[03:34:40] Tear ice onto underneath the pit with the brambles out. That'll easily kill Chirichunor
[03:34:45] Run down the marauder as well. So P vision a heavy investment of heroes ain't the mid lane, but it does pay off
[03:34:52] Absolutely the second you get caught in any of these little roots you're gonna get changed on forever
[03:34:57] There's just no way to take advantage of mobility in this game as the index until you have
[03:35:03] I want to say either PKP or like multiple dispels like maybe grease plus lotus dark sea or something can pale you out of that kind of
[03:35:08] Situation if you're a starter, but there's a lot. There's a lot of gold to get to so in the early game
[03:35:13] You have to be aware of any pod
[03:35:15] Try to get aggressive with another bad one below cooldown, and it's gonna end up in the
[03:35:20] Bramble, pulled in by the Bush Whack.
[03:35:23] No one's gonna keep it up though.
[03:35:25] Yeah, but the same reason it's a terrible Tuss game, it also makes it a pretty rough
[03:35:29] Slardar game, right?
[03:35:30] Two heroes that are very dependent on their mobility hate the lockdown, so that P-Vision
[03:35:34] is gonna be thrown their way.
[03:35:36] So it's gonna be a rough ride for those two until BKB, or at least BKB from Slardar.
[03:35:42] to see if Malady ever gets a BKB if it's on.
[03:35:47] I like P-Vision's odds in a lot of the fights until those big items come out.
[03:35:51] Then this game will change a lot, but until then they have spell advantage.
[03:35:55] The more they can force subscriberships, particularly through December,
[03:35:59] the more pain they're going to inflict on some of these heroes that just can't get out of the chains done.
[03:36:05] I do think that's, uh, because they have a Templar Assassin,
[03:36:09] Anasaur and Roshan are obviously a big advantage for Yandex when they hit that BKB timing and feel confident about their team fights.
[03:36:16] I do wonder if P-Vision will have the chance to take a Rosh themselves before the BKBs come alive.
[03:36:23] Maybe their line-up is not very good at due though.
[03:36:26] This is not a Roshan priority line-up.
[03:36:30] It kind of requires everybody in that pit to bring it down in an efficient rate.
[03:36:35] And that's kind of Satanic's call.
[03:36:37] He wants to do something like that with his body.
[03:36:39] Like Chinese vacuum, but...
[03:36:41] DM, nice pick-off.
[03:36:43] Surrounded, and the game makes things a lot more efficient.
[03:36:46] Straight back to the mid lane.
[03:36:48] Mid lane, they're gonna run down, Malady.
[03:36:50] No light shadows, they have detection fork.
[03:36:53] Yeah, they got him.
[03:36:55] It takes a while to die. Can you get anything in return here?
[03:36:58] Saurna wants to take this fight, but he's still outnumbered.
[03:37:00] Yeah, nobody's around.
[03:37:01] Arrow is coming through, but as soon as that's dodged, then there goes your entire support.
[03:37:06] Cheer Junior managed to weave his way through the brambles but another round of slight chains.
[03:37:11] And finally, damage ticks in.
[03:37:14] Underlord TP away, oh that was a close call, but notice makes it out and completes his Radovatos in the process.
[03:37:21] So now the catch is really beginning to ample up for the P vision.
[03:37:25] This Sardar is so far away from being able to survive our impact in situations.
[03:37:29] The vessel is done here for no one.
[03:37:31] Him getting the last hits on those kills.
[03:37:33] That is exactly who you want.
[03:37:35] Powering up to the first fighting out of here.
[03:37:38] My hand makes a little trouble across the map.
[03:37:42] Too much mobility for them to deal with right now and not enough counter thread.
[03:37:45] This T.H. is just not powered up yet.
[03:37:47] You're still looking for that vessel.
[03:37:49] You're still looking for the blink on the Sardar.
[03:37:51] Then this threat will come together.
[03:37:53] You can kind of play through moonlight shadow and try and pick someone off or you know threat and say panic down here
[03:37:57] You can't die once those armor items are online
[03:38:01] But he has sat back here forever
[03:38:03] You want to deny the tower? No, let's leave it up bait someone in for
[03:38:08] We saw the power of these tier ones in our series yesterday
[03:38:11] You know now it is a really nice objective to
[03:38:15] To play around for as long as you can keep it up though 9 HP. I mean surely
[03:38:18] Well, there's a limiter. At the same time, yeah, okay, it's finally gonna deny it.
[03:38:23] DM just keeps on kind of throwing helmet Dom creeps down the lane.
[03:38:26] I think eventually he's gonna get that tower, so maybe he's not baiting on hero kills,
[03:38:30] but he's baiting in some valuable stuff anyway.
[03:38:33] Look, they double scan down here and both hit.
[03:38:36] As a P-Vision, making their way for this wisdom trying from multiple angles.
[03:38:41] It does mean it's gonna be double wisdom or P-Vision.
[03:38:45] Just a head on the little timings here, and again, their spell power is stronger right now, so even if the item timings are the same, you're still advantaged in these fights. You just can't get the impact out of your Tusk Marana here.
[03:38:57] Yeah, the Index said they clearly knew that was coming, they made the read, they made the scans. I think they just made the overall call, we shouldn't fight right now, we need to get our first round of items, which there's the Deso, there's the Blink Dagger on Slardar, now it's coming together.
[03:39:11] You still kind of want PKBs, but you can make, you know, one or two boots, right?
[03:39:17] You can get pickoffs now. You can threaten some of these cores pushing the lane.
[03:39:20] Particularly the Underlord, if he gets too aggressive top, you're gonna go there and slay him.
[03:39:23] The Ember mid might be a tough grab. You'd have to chain stun him with an arrow.
[03:39:27] Likely, that's right. No one here. It's kind of the same with the Tiny, who, by the way,
[03:39:32] is about to have a full shadow blade.
[03:39:34] They're gonna go for the Underlord, but it's not in a deep lane position. It's in Bleed Fish and Triangle.
[03:39:39] That's a lot which is a tough area to fight in their reinforcements are already there
[03:39:43] Satanic TP's the offlane tower cut him off from behind now Malady who's looking to join those two and their smoke play
[03:39:50] Oh now he gets caught as well
[03:39:53] It was just overly aggressive
[03:39:55] Now it's gonna say Roche just walking by but no give no one a little little toss there
[03:40:00] love tap
[03:40:03] That's a that feels like a force play like we have starter blink we need to do something with it
[03:40:07] Yeah, that's not the area that the TA can connect to unless you're already running there
[03:40:12] where it slips on by because
[03:40:14] Our well pops and it just decided to turn around
[03:40:17] Why did you do if I'm hits the air rise? Oh, it's one shot by the melt it so it's gonna be a first-mitty charge
[03:40:23] This year the Sardar is back up and playing again low cooldowns on these heroes
[03:40:27] So even when you do kill yandex they're back up in 30 seconds in infighting shape fast response
[03:40:33] So that response was important. One, you needed to stem the bleed in here, but two, that was the Shadowblade Tiny running in there, ready to join that engagement.
[03:40:40] It just didn't get set up properly, so you don't get value out of that reveal.
[03:40:44] You don't get to snipe the TA or something crazy like that.
[03:40:46] Spank the farming for Satanic. Did not like what he saw there, trying to re-engage.
[03:40:51] So both teams have shown that they can defend their own side of the map.
[03:40:55] Neither team has shown that they can really offensively, you know, get in there.
[03:40:59] Which makes sense, if you look at these two items. Like, there's a lot of turnaround.
[03:41:03] There's a lot of annoying spells to run into. You're doing it blind especially and
[03:41:09] Just not fun spells to face tank. Yeah
[03:41:13] So what's that so charges for TA? Yeah, that was fast. He picked up deso got a kill now. He's playing
[03:41:18] It'll be highest net worth here. It's kind of inevitable
[03:41:22] Come down to those Roshan's you can start accelerating these objectives
[03:41:27] Or killing more dog creeps
[03:41:30] It's number four number five. I don't know
[03:41:33] He's propelling DM to a fast Lotus here, which I like.
[03:41:36] You gotta get some multiple Dispels.
[03:41:37] I was gonna...
[03:41:38] You could be curious if he was gonna go Greaves, we just don't see this item a lot.
[03:41:41] This is a pretty good Greaves game, but you just want the Threads.
[03:41:44] Let's keep the farm right up, you little thing here, and allow the Lotus Orb to fail some
[03:41:49] of his boys out.
[03:41:50] Do you think Abnaladi by now do Shark?
[03:41:55] Plus Shark is not one that I think of as, you know, willing to buy.
[03:41:59] Kind of on the Shadow Blade and with the Bedlam, they burn through that Refraction really quickly.
[03:42:06] Avalanche Bedlam, Refraction goes down and exposed, Watson dies.
[03:42:11] That was a smoke bypassing multiple warts that catches Watson off guard.
[03:42:18] Big connection for this Tiny.
[03:42:20] Not only do you get his Shadow Blade involved, you take down the Harman's over here on the
[03:42:24] side of the Index.
[03:42:25] Pit. Rod. Back into the pit. Malady. Trying to get off a snowball here, but now he's been changed into another pit.
[03:42:33] Ten seconds up and tangled. And now Chiru Jr. is going to walk into a bramble as well.
[03:42:38] Now he does get the clear here from TM, turn around, backing wall, but not much damage behind it.
[03:42:42] With the Sardar already dead, the Templar assassin reviving in five seconds.
[03:42:47] Nothing behind it. P-Vision. Playing faster and faster in the index or struggling to keep up.
[03:42:53] That's right at this timing on the map. You've seen it time and time again if you let this hero have a free game
[03:42:57] And you can just start picking people off the map closes in real fast
[03:43:01] And this is you talked about this tusk chart. I'm not sure this would have been my first investment because like there's so many roots in this game
[03:43:07] And you just get pity chain bramble. You don't have an opportunity to do anything with this chart
[03:43:12] You have to kind of preemptively use it and start the fights on your charm your terms, but so far it's all aggression
[03:43:19] For a pvision, Lotus Arps are going to be very helpful, DM, he does not go the whole
[03:43:25] helm of Overlord, but picks up a faster Lotus.
[03:43:28] I guess another thought would be that him buying a shard also means that maybe one
[03:43:33] of his cores gets the shard if they take the Tormenter.
[03:43:36] He talked about that in an interview, and likes buying it to essentially contribute
[03:43:41] net worth to one of his other bigger heroes.
[03:43:43] That makes sense, I feel like if you know that you're winning the game, that's winning
[03:43:47] But that is certainly not the case. In this setup, it feels like Beavision are far more likely to be taking this tournament.
[03:43:55] I'll see who gets it. Might pay off if they can secure the objective. This is a lineup that wants to take it, for sure.
[03:44:01] They might just smoke down there and prioritize it, even from the dire side.
[03:44:06] Another pick off to the tiny map is shrinking right now.
[03:44:10] And Satanic's getting more and more aggro. The Shadowplate Arpune now. A Silver Edge to be finished.
[03:44:16] finish the third dog grief as well
[03:44:22] you just have to have to get BKB's at some point this game so it's starting to
[03:44:27] feel like just too much spell power and the axe is already done for notice look
[03:44:32] at your juniors network he's 3000 behind the ember spirit like when is he gonna
[03:44:38] get a BKB he is lucky to get out alive here as the game comes in a little bit
[03:44:43] late. You have to win teamfights and big objectives for him to eventually get there.
[03:44:48] There's just not enough space for the starter to farm anything right now. You have to start
[03:44:51] looking for some kills. Well if they wanted to they could make a play for that Tormenter right now.
[03:44:57] Gates on cooldown. It's a big spell. No gate. P vision mostly playing middle and top.
[03:45:02] They're collapsing towards mid. What a different kind of objective here. P vision
[03:45:07] going to make a smoke of their own. It's going to break. Man it should get D&G up to the shadow
[03:45:11] Well, already went off and Chura Junior has no BKB to defend himself to get him a Lotus though
[03:45:15] And maybe he can get out the Embersphere it's gonna pursue
[03:45:17] Meanwhile Templar assassin has to keep his distance up against this Underlord
[03:45:21] But Embersphere jumps right on top that Watson's getting low, a Firestorm on top that has to be picked up by the Snowball
[03:45:26] It's his only chance to survive here. Watson though, there's just too many Disables
[03:45:30] He visioned. They own this area
[03:45:32] They own every part of the map that all five can be there. That fight can maybe go their way
[03:45:38] If they all jump the same target together and they get the TA in there
[03:45:41] But the second that pitfire storm caught the two of them on the high ground the fights just joined it
[03:45:45] You can't single target focus anybody down and now you're just stuck in roots for days. It's just miserable
[03:45:51] I guess Tusk's chart pulled Watson out of it a little bit and then he gets no vote
[03:45:55] Like you're actually dodging a decent amount of the roots
[03:45:58] It's just well still more that everybody has something that's an arcane runeber on top of it avalanches a disgusting spell
[03:46:05] It's just too much to deal with right now. That was a risky fight to take. You paid a big price
[03:46:11] They also bought yet another shard. This time on the dark seer
[03:46:15] I think this one is very good for split pushing at times and I could see how it's helpful, but I also feel like
[03:46:22] You're very much under the gun, right? You need to give to this 30 35 minute timing where you have these
[03:46:29] DKBs to get rid of these it's weird that they feel like the shard
[03:46:33] It's worth while when you've got to give these other items.
[03:46:37] Because otherwise something like this happens and there's just no way out, yeah.
[03:46:41] They used to stuff.
[03:46:42] Nobody has any four staffs, nobody has a load of serve in that situation as DM is bottom
[03:46:47] lane right now trying to get to the plate.
[03:46:48] You have to find a way to create more map pressure without getting picked off or win
[03:46:53] the fights.
[03:46:54] You're running out of options here as the index as I'm just going to control this game.
[03:46:59] Every time that global pit is available it's going to result in a big kill here.
[03:47:02] have the core items to escape from it.
[03:47:04] Unfortunately, the Darkseer can put pressure on the map without showing his hero.
[03:47:08] Thanks to the honodompre, that is the one way you can combat this underlord.
[03:47:12] He's doing a decent job. He's constantly forcing somebody back bottom.
[03:47:17] Fortunately for P-Vision, they have very mobile heroes. You can run the Ember down here, chase him out a little bit,
[03:47:21] and still connect to some play top if you really play it well.
[03:47:25] As long as you have to fully respond to the Darkseer pressure on this game, and there he goes.
[03:47:29] And there he goes, right? He chases him out bottom, instantly back-top.
[03:47:33] You still have your threat up here if you...
[03:47:35] You didn't have to try and take advantage of that.
[03:47:38] Gotta get a kill for Chirichunior, but run into a sentry.
[03:47:41] A sentry that was gonna hang out here pretty soon.
[03:47:45] Did you even have to damage all that play? It's got to be close.
[03:47:47] Sentry else responded, both satanic and malady in their confrontation.
[03:47:52] Wartie game is really important.
[03:47:55] For these pickoffs leading to the objectives, it's all gonna start with the vision.
[03:47:58] That's where you can maybe rely on some of these TA traps to give you a little extra boost.
[03:48:02] They're not getting killed right now, no gem on the side of the addition.
[03:48:04] This could be a game where they pick one up very soon just to try and eliminate the extra pickoff threat that would snowball into something like a Roshan.
[03:48:13] Chira Jr. still hunting down here.
[03:48:16] Soxa almost has a four-staff, so they will have a little bit of extra help.
[03:48:23] Probably the four-staff only gets you out of one of these pits.
[03:48:25] Which, with the aggs, he's got multiple pits to be throwing in, not to mention the Rodabate Torah.
[03:48:32] A big move from P-Vision. This could be where they take over all the objectives if they get the right kind of pick-off here running into Watson would be perfect.
[03:48:43] Exactly.
[03:48:44] And he can get the atlants on him. He's caught, pulled away by the toss short, but he doesn't take you far enough out.
[03:48:50] They're better just leaving them there. There's again so much AOE control in this lineup
[03:48:55] There's just no way the Tusk is gonna bail you out of these situations
[03:48:57] I can't the the shard is like okay doesn't actually get you fully out
[03:49:01] It only pulls the Tusk into danger. At least you get the hold hands if you both die. That's true. It's satanic
[03:49:08] Playing a carry tiny
[03:49:10] You've got this kind of control
[03:49:12] He's gonna be banging down objectives. The top tier two is almost dead. He takes down the bottom tier one
[03:49:18] I also love the 9 class blink here
[03:49:22] Because I think dark wills that you're like early items don't really mean as much as you being able to have presence around the map
[03:49:28] Get that extra wave and not die can it we talked about how important is that unkillable support to this matter right now?
[03:49:33] Yeah, you're you're supportive of that scales in a way where it's so obnoxious to kill them as a core
[03:49:38] It almost becomes futile
[03:49:40] Dark will look and take advantage of this link
[03:49:42] With the shadow realm she can push that extra wave and blink out if you try and blink on her
[03:49:46] It gives you a lot of survivability in this game.
[03:49:48] It's very annoying for these heroes that want to blink in and stun you.
[03:49:51] Toxin, let's get it to one shot, Avalanche top.
[03:49:54] It's not the same on the other side.
[03:49:56] He's not able to split push.
[03:49:57] DM able to get rid of the cursed crown.
[03:49:59] He's going to show on the map.
[03:50:00] Nope, blinks up.
[03:50:02] And because there's no gate for another 15 seconds, he is able to get away.
[03:50:09] I think we've also seen this development on supports over the course of this event.
[03:50:12] And maybe like the previous one or two just meta-wise.
[03:50:14] Otherwise, we're seeing a lot more earlier blinks, not as an initiation tool, but as a...
[03:50:18] I'm gonna wrap the map, or set myself up somewhere that's really annoying and have that escape mechanism.
[03:50:24] It's a weird development of the item then. I don't think we've really seen as consistently before in Dota.
[03:50:30] And here's like a take advantage of it, tend to be more popular. I think hoodwinks are another great example.
[03:50:34] Like, we've seen a lot of early blink hoodwink, where you're just playing off of, I have extra reach for the sun,
[03:50:40] I have extra mobility across the map.
[03:50:41] I can get that one extra wave and get out.
[03:50:43] There's no chance you catch me, or I get that extra snag
[03:50:46] in a fight.
[03:50:48] It's very high skill.
[03:50:49] It pays off when you can land it,
[03:50:51] and especially if you're the aggressor in the teamfights.
[03:50:56] And no one perfectly plays, though.
[03:50:59] They are going to get the initiation on him anyway.
[03:51:01] I thought this was going to be another situation where
[03:51:03] it breaks a smoke and he gets away,
[03:51:05] but they managed to get the initiation and it pits.
[03:51:07] Jucked in through, Vacuum, Odyssey, Tanix, Long of Dabbling, still managed to get a toss on the illusion to kill Malady.
[03:51:15] Jair Jr. wants to keep this going, actually pushing notice back into the team as best he can, but it's not good enough.
[03:51:20] Malady, but Watson can't really go into this.
[03:51:23] You see him playing off of hitting the traps and trying to get the side blade damage, but he can't actually blink into them and go for that underlord kill.
[03:51:33] No, there's no way you want to commit in there until you have PKV, you're just gonna get disabled for days
[03:51:38] There's already an assault cure us on satanic by the way. Yeah
[03:51:41] So you kind of have to respect the armor in this lineup and this ember almost lives. He has an illusion room in the box
[03:51:47] No one is very close to getting out of this situation
[03:51:50] And execution. Yeah, I mean if he has the sheath it's done. I think he does live there
[03:51:54] Oh, yeah, 100% and they're gonna have the triple armor item. They're gonna have AC. They're gonna have sheath as they have loads
[03:52:00] so
[03:52:01] This was one of your better chances to take a fight if you were yandex when it comes to the offensive damage
[03:52:08] Maybe they can still take another one when they have their DKBs
[03:52:11] But for now they're gonna get picked off around the map as an attempt to do something about Roshan. He's denied
[03:52:16] That's a big Rosh to gain here for key vision
[03:52:19] Feels more influential to take it away from this Yandex line of thing what you even need it for like I don't think tiny needs
[03:52:25] I think you can use it well, but just denying this from the TA, it makes it so much harder
[03:52:33] for Watts to play the fights.
[03:52:34] He's kind of relying on getting a second life here at some point to be able to go in.
[03:52:39] There's a real risk even with the BKB now when you go in, you pop BKB if you get kited
[03:52:43] a little bit.
[03:52:44] If those big stuns don't land when you're there to deal the damage, that BKB stuns
[03:52:48] to wear out that that fight does not look so great for a long run.
[03:52:53] They do at least get telemetry.
[03:52:55] They get a Marana shard, so all the shard buying didn't really pay off here in the long run, for that at least.
[03:53:01] Yeah, I mean I'm not a TA player, so I don't know how influential the Templar Assassin shard is.
[03:53:09] I guess your refraction can be cast while disabled. It's actually potentially important when you're getting tiny Shadowblade initiate.
[03:53:16] Oh yeah, I was about to say, it's good against Tiny, and this is supposed to be a decent match for TA in terms of playing the map.
[03:53:22] But a lot of the disables in this game like casting their refraction wall, you're in the pit or something.
[03:53:28] Whatever.
[03:53:29] Yeah.
[03:53:30] Satanic's threat continues to grow.
[03:53:32] 9, 2, and 7, this hero looks unstoppable in the right hand's event.
[03:53:38] The index are just getting more and more desperate to rat out the map, leading to more and more pickoffs.
[03:53:44] They can feel the map just closing in around them.
[03:53:48] The vision, thanks to the fact they've got a Shadow Blade, they've got an Underlord
[03:53:53] with this global presence combined with an Ember Spirit with global catch as well.
[03:53:58] But there's the two BJBs for Yandex, TA and Sardar, both online, this means you can full
[03:54:04] commit in the fight and try and take down that big juicy target that you want to at
[03:54:07] the start.
[03:54:08] Endangious?
[03:54:09] It looks a lot more difficult.
[03:54:11] Yeah, the question is, like, are they going to have the damage, right, and the defensive
[03:54:14] capabilities to allow them to push through these disables and that's a very strong timing but are the
[03:54:20] Because they're ahead our vision now to tanky against the physical damage. It looks like that
[03:54:25] All right, there's just so much armor in this lineup already. It's 41 armor on tiny right now
[03:54:31] Like a close base only takes away so much, you know
[03:54:36] And if Satanic spots him too many to get the leap away
[03:54:38] But he just falls him through with the plank now the pullback of the harpoon cheer junior
[03:54:43] doesn't have to use BKB here. They snowball, try and dodge the cursed crown and slip back inside the base. Malady, Volodas, nope, he's stuck in the rock.
[03:54:50] Now, Avalanche, and he's dead. Man, these heroes just cannot get away no matter what slug they're gonna use.
[03:54:57] And they're gonna either force the BKBs or they're gonna kill you at this point.
[03:55:00] Here, Junior pops the BKB and makes a run for them found that it's not what you wanted to see out of your first usage of both the Templar and the Slaughtern.
[03:55:08] They didn't even go on a hero really. Sure, they got the dark willow
[03:55:11] But they have been threatened to core at all and they're immediately gonna smoke and make a play for this which is a
[03:55:18] Bold move considering the DK these are uncool. They're gonna try for the tiny here
[03:55:23] Catches all these heroes and have lunch over the top nice little snowball dodge
[03:55:27] But here comes another pit holding back three heroes
[03:55:29] They turn back to melody the easy kill for now
[03:55:31] They can't do anything here. They pull in Watson Watson sucking up these pits and this looks impossible
[03:55:37] Nah, just no shot. You can't focus anybody. You should be getting used to it.
[03:55:40] GG! Now how did he tap it early?
[03:55:43] Domination here. Another 30-minute win from Key Vision.
[03:55:49] That can't have been last longer than 40-hands this team. It doesn't feel like it.
[03:55:52] They just run you over. The second they start taking a little map control, they just never look back.
[03:55:56] The lanes get pushed in really aggressively. Someone gets picked off. They get an objective.
[03:56:00] It becomes even more difficult to play. There's just very few openings for you to claw your way back in this game.
[03:56:05] And I think we saw the power of this underlord thing.
[03:56:07] If you do not get the Dispills up fast enough,
[03:56:10] if you do not get the BKBs up fast enough,
[03:56:12] and take that one important fight,
[03:56:14] to give you a chance to dominate the map,
[03:56:16] it becomes impossible to play the game.
[03:56:18] There's just no hope.
[03:56:19] I think this pick was just too f***ing
[03:56:20] debilitating for the entire squad.
[03:56:22] Like, you're forcing them to buy an early Lotus Orb,
[03:56:24] early Forest Gas, Shards, whatever it is.
[03:56:26] Everything is,
[03:56:27] I need to deal with these pits, I need to deal with these pits,
[03:56:29] and then you're just going up the image.
[03:56:31] You don't have a way to kill these heroes,
[03:56:32] who are all just itemizing to deal with your actual direct TA,
[03:56:34] FTA early she goes early AC early Lotus armor across the board
[03:56:39] I think all three of their boards had 30 plus armor by like 25 minutes in a game
[03:56:43] Yeah, what are you doing is Watson here?
[03:56:47] There's not enough desert charges in the world to cut through all this HP so
[03:56:51] They really punish the solder bit on paper. I think this is gonna be a really hard start our game
[03:56:55] They made it in impossible sorry so many bad mattress
[03:56:58] I think you have to maybe just chain game fit in hindsight with this piranha
[03:57:02] like I don't know just the Darkseer Networks really count for anything in this game
[03:57:06] I think the Slaughter has to snowball for you to have a shot at taking fights and
[03:57:10] He got very little priority. It's not a yearly can do stacks and no one played the mid lane really well and got some help
[03:57:16] So you vision they alleviated a lot of their potential difficulties where I think
[03:57:20] The index did not snowball their threats hard enough
[03:57:22] And that'll be something to address going into game two because they got dominated here
[03:57:27] Yeah, they're very first game 41 minute victory
[03:57:30] They had a 48-minute victory against Reconyx, but yeah, most of these are in that 30-35 minute mark.
[03:57:37] Just extremely dominant victories from P-Vision, but they do get the win.
[03:57:44] P-Vision's 8-game one of the semifinals, and in quite the fashion as well.
[03:57:49] I was expecting maybe a little bit more back and forth to come out, but
[03:57:54] it was not meant to be like that for Yannix.
[03:57:57] they did not get off to the greatest start that they were probably hoping for Lacoste.
[03:58:02] Yeah, this is that of a lineup that wants to snowball a lot of control between 15-25 minutes.
[03:58:08] This is what this lineup is kind of built for, to take over the map, take over the objectives,
[03:58:12] Roshan get a pick off, turn that into Tormentor and take control of certain areas of the map where
[03:58:18] they're going to be getting the kills, they're going to be utilizing this kind of infinite damage
[03:58:22] they have from Slardar, Dessal and FTA, but the lineup never came online. Like we saw Slardar
[03:58:26] really struggling. I think no one really pushed the limits on the hero in the mid lane, making sure
[03:58:31] that this Slardar is also shut down. This is not a hero that can easily recover, and we were seeing
[03:58:36] some like downfall to it, plus also having the global presence from this other underlord, kind
[03:58:41] of similar in a sense where you're playing against the Dawnbreak, knowing exactly that that plus one
[03:58:46] hero is going to come in and making sure that you are also meeting to bring extra hero, maybe even
[03:58:51] extra two heroes because of the damage reduction and the kill threat that he brings.
[03:58:55] Yeah, if you notice had a fantastic start all that off play.
[03:58:59] Yeah, he really did. I mean his CS was unbelievable and they did manage to trade a few kills on him
[03:59:03] when the rest of Key Vision were making a movement but for the most part what that Underlord gave that
[03:59:08] game was just so valuable and watching that play just felt like there was so much shit on the ground
[03:59:14] that it was so hard for Man Dex to play into it. Like every time any kind of fight was attempted
[03:59:21] by Yandex, all of a sudden there's this pit of mellis with the bramble maize with the terrorize
[03:59:25] with the tiny avalanche coming in. There is so much AoE control and when you're working with heroes
[03:59:31] like Tusk and Slardar and TA that you need that maneuverability in the fight this just
[03:59:35] stabilitates them way too much. Yeah it gets pretty difficult. I also mentioned the atomization
[03:59:40] coming out from p-vision that it's going to be pretty straightforward when it comes down to
[03:59:44] picking up the items that's going to give you the value. So you see nine class having this
[03:59:49] Distiller, getting extra bit of armor from that relatively early Sheva's Guard, it's all from no
[03:59:53] one. And also Saitanik completely skipping the BKB, this is one of the few times where you see Tiny
[03:59:58] not needing the BKB because he's playing against many BKB piercing abilities, he's playing against
[04:00:02] this Deso, Overmovement Physical Damage, so he also tanks up, tanks up and also gets early AC,
[04:00:08] which does benefit the whole team. And also you see noticed him getting the Lotus Orb,
[04:00:13] which does give him armor, so kind of double dipping on the value on top of that. And also
[04:00:17] picking up the Ghost Scepter making sure that he is not going to be dying and this is one of those
[04:00:22] games where if you're playing from behind you don't really have enough money to buy a nullifier
[04:00:26] so you can't really just burst in from 100 to 0. Yeah I felt like this game it got out of control
[04:00:32] at some point for Yandex and it made me wonder like is there in their draft not a plan B built
[04:00:38] in where they can make a comeback? Not really it's a very one note kind of draft like Blinken
[04:00:44] or somebody use your overwhelming amount of damage and just snowball off of that.
[04:00:48] So if you don't get that pace starting for you on the index,
[04:00:53] there's really not that much you can do. And I do feel that maybe the Sardar was actually
[04:00:58] not that good within this game. Like Sardar has been introduced as this really big counterfeit
[04:01:03] to the spirits, especially Urspirit in particular and the Puck that we see very often, but versus
[04:01:08] Ember Spirit, it looked kind of underwhelming actually. That hero, while he does trade with
[04:01:12] him decently. He has no means to remove the flamethrower and he doesn't punish it enough.
[04:01:17] Yeah, it definitely felt like that in this one, making sure that he has really good a game.
[04:01:22] Like Sardar is not a hero that, again, can easily recover. I think Kassar has talked about it. This
[04:01:27] is the hero that if he's off to a bad start, you need your blink, you need your shard, you can't
[04:01:32] really skip your shards. It's kind of like you need to spend the 1500 gold to get it and then
[04:01:37] your BKB is going to get delayed, which we'll also see multiple times. He goes in and a lot of
[04:01:41] of the times he doesn't get the chance to get out because the pit of malice or the
[04:01:45] apos this infinite control that had plus also tiny I think satanic but an
[04:01:48] extremely good game he was hunting down he killed saxa I believe two times solo
[04:01:53] and also being everywhere but also having that the tankiness like it's very
[04:01:56] easy to play a game once you have these let's call them unkillable heroes that
[04:02:00] go in provide vision for the team and also have a little bit of a bail option
[04:02:04] with the dark mellow behind them but you know maybe with some defensive items
[04:02:08] like a four staff, just making sure that you can get out of trouble.
[04:02:12] Yeah, that tiny on satanic was able to join fights at the very early on.
[04:02:17] Yeah, I mean, that was the big key factor in this game for me from what took
[04:02:21] it from being even where both teams are making trades to actually being
[04:02:24] sung in Keyvision's favor.
[04:02:26] So here in this clip, we're going to see this is satanic's first big move
[04:02:29] with nine classes willow and they smoke and they find the perfect target
[04:02:33] here in Watson's TA.
[04:02:35] Like this is just the dream scenario.
[04:02:37] if you are this tiny, and then if we go on to this next clip here just a few seconds afterwards,
[04:02:42] because of this pick-off on TA, they were able to apply pressure to this mid lane, to this mid tower,
[04:02:47] and that ATOS from Underlord comes in clutch here, you just have this like big pit, it's not easy to
[04:02:52] take, and CD unfortunately tries to help here, just gets avatossed and maybe can manage to sprint
[04:02:58] away, but you can't really run away from this draft if you're not the one setting the tempo.
[04:03:02] And then this last clip, we're going to see kind of a similar situation in the sense that
[04:03:07] Static's Tiny just gets to join whatever he wants, and this is a really key from Noon to be able to come in and control,
[04:03:12] but he does this nice wraparound, gets the ava on, and the heroes on Yandex could not really play versus these heroes.
[04:03:19] No, they really could not. It also feels like oftentimes when we talk about an E-team, really,
[04:03:25] and a lot of the teams that we're talking about today, we frequently focus on the support heroes, with good reason,
[04:03:30] because they're the ones making a lot of the moves.
[04:03:32] But the cost, I guess, the reason why Yannix's supports couldn't really make moves, is that because of the Slaughter being basically a known factor here, or what was that about?
[04:03:41] Yes, I mean, when you shut down this type of a lineup, Tempura Sass, and she also falls off, she doesn't feel comfortable playing with the Slaughter, he doesn't have BKB, and also the Offlane, like DM didn't really have that hero that kind of goes in.
[04:03:55] Again, it goes back to starter not having the greatest game which makes it very easy for the supports on the other side
[04:04:01] Like even itemize and we talked about like how they're not really susceptible to dying to
[04:04:07] Both of the course to either starter or to Templar assassin because they have built an invasion
[04:04:12] They have shadow realm but a lot of value that they're getting out of these spells and this lineup this diorama lineup
[04:04:17] What they want to do is blink in kill a hero and then play for v5 and we've never got the chance to see that
[04:04:23] Yeah, this game, it feels to me like it was a strategic win and with the one big difference
[04:04:33] maker being that mid lane FB, where no one opposed it very well against Sierra Junior
[04:04:37] Slardar.
[04:04:39] Is this series going to come down to that, you think, because these teams are both so
[04:04:43] good and both so close in skill?
[04:04:44] Yeah, I mean we heard Sokso in his interview say that he thinks whoever came with the better
[04:04:49] ideas will win today and I feel like he vision had an excellent idea versus DJ Slardar.
[04:04:53] in particular. Picking that Ember early and bringing it in and also Duel taking
[04:04:58] Hedwenk and Dark Willow, Sephardu, we don't see too often because one is usually
[04:05:01] banned or taken from the enemy team. It made it so that the Marana plus Tusk
[04:05:06] Sephardu on the other side couldn't really play that effectively either. So
[04:05:10] moving into this game too, I think Yandex have to go in a completely different
[04:05:14] direction. Yeah, also last pick Underlords. This was kind of like, I'd say if we
[04:05:20] If you could see this Temporal Assassin potentially coming in for Yandex, they could also potentially see it coming, most definitely, and they prepared a really good answer.
[04:05:30] They picked this Underlord who had a global presence, reduces the damage, physical damage from both of the cores as well, and also just he's the body.
[04:05:38] A lot of times you see this guy running in and not getting focused because you can't really kill him.
[04:05:44] I'd really like a bit of a switcheroo, we've seen good amounts of underroofs just straight up going for agonist sector.
[04:05:49] He did squeeze in a rod of ATOS, making sure that they have that extra bit of a control, extra bit of a catch,
[04:05:53] because they didn't really have the reliable catch, they had Ember, but it also speeds up the tempo.
[04:06:00] And we see, I would say, the division team being the scariest between 25 and 40 minutes, where they tend to close out most of their games.
[04:06:08] So where do you want to see them take game 2?
[04:06:11] I wouldn't necessarily say that this is anything wrong with the draft, I actually favor the draft by slight margin, I would say, but it's gonna come down to that because both of these teams are gonna exploit every single mistake that you make.
[04:06:25] I think they're gonna be going for something different. I think they're gonna be looking into potentially getting maybe invoker for CJ relatively early on, maybe not in the first phase, but also to see the slightly bigger picture,
[04:06:37] maybe have like a draft that also doesn't fall off,
[04:06:40] especially if they're getting run at 30 minutes in.
[04:06:43] Yeah, I think also maybe they thought a lot
[04:06:46] within their draft on the undefs about Earth Spirit,
[04:06:49] how they want to break the combo
[04:06:50] and how they want to address it,
[04:06:51] but they didn't, I think, expect them
[04:06:54] to take that Dark Willow there,
[04:06:55] which made Tosk's game really difficult.
[04:06:57] And I would be surprised if we see the Dark Willow
[04:06:59] make it through for the Game 2, for 9-Glass.
[04:07:02] We're going to find out how things will change in Game 2.
[04:07:06] Of course, yesterday we had quarterfinals happen and things were heating up already with two teams making it through there.
[04:07:13] And we're going to have a little bit of a flashback of that with the Saudi Arabia radio comes.
[04:07:36] I just moved there I guess.
[04:07:43] You don't see anyone top guys, you don't see anyone.
[04:07:46] Did you go?
[04:07:47] Did you go?
[04:07:48] Did you hit?
[04:07:49] Yeah.
[04:07:50] Lean up a little.
[04:07:51] I'm holding, I'm holding.
[04:07:52] Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[04:07:54] Nice.
[04:07:55] Did you see that?
[04:07:56] I'm holding it.
[04:07:57] Lean there guys.
[04:07:58] Ah, I'm checking on you.
[04:07:59] I'm far.
[04:08:00] Stas, you gonna reach him?
[04:08:01] I'm going.
[04:08:02] Okay.
[04:08:03] Okay
[04:08:17] I died in base voice
[04:08:33] Zzang is second, he is taking
[04:08:36] he used auto
[04:08:38] he is low
[04:08:40] he is low
[04:08:42] he is low
[04:08:44] he is low
[04:08:46] come on, come on
[04:08:48] I am coming, I am coming
[04:08:50] Xiaoyu, come back, come back and fight with me
[04:08:52] you are the best, Xiaoyu
[04:08:53] don't be afraid of me, I will fight with him
[04:08:55] don't go, don't go
[04:08:57] come, come, I am coming
[04:08:59] I
[04:09:29] He thinks he can come in here and play my game!
[04:09:34] He knows nothing but gold!
[04:09:37] Tyler won, you're done.
[04:09:48] We're getting ready to cast Yandex versus P-Vision.
[04:09:52] Avery, this is a pretty tense matchup.
[04:09:54] Pretty much both these teams are the favorites.
[04:09:56] Favorites, whoever goes on to the Grand Finals,
[04:09:58] is going to be the favorite for that Grand Finals.
[04:10:00] So, simple question, who's walking away the victor here?
[04:10:04] Well, I would not count BB team out.
[04:10:06] I think as we talked about this series,
[04:10:08] if both these teams view it as the finals,
[04:10:10] what happens after one of these teams wins?
[04:10:13] Right, you put too much energy,
[04:10:14] too much of your emotional momentum in this series,
[04:10:17] and they get caught off guard by BB in that Grand Final,
[04:10:20] that's a real possibility.
[04:10:21] So you need to win this series in the right way.
[04:10:23] Oh, yeah, that's the right way. We can't overdo it. I think it's a nice two one with a close game three
[04:10:29] Well, but I thought you were saying like in you don't want to expend too much energy
[04:10:33] You want to get the two? Oh, just get it done. I know you don't want to get to the top. Yeah, I'm fine
[04:10:36] Oh, yeah, you know that's how you you got to be like humble than a game one respecting to
[04:10:43] The close game to where you figure some stuff out. You're like, all right
[04:10:46] We're respecting our opponents as then let's move on if I had to pick a winner in this series
[04:10:50] I think p-visions looked a little better. I think so too. The draftings look a little cleaner
[04:10:55] So I'm gonna lead them but this is anybody's to take when it comes to the draft in what's the number one hero
[04:10:59] You're gonna be looking out for in this series. Oh, I'm looking I'm looking at the mid lane
[04:11:03] I'm looking at the ember in particular because I think that here's over performed. I'm looking at puck from a
[04:11:08] Bad side of like it's only big. Don't do it. Yeah, cuz it hasn't been and I think Earth spirits kind of that middle territory
[04:11:14] So I'm looking at the spirit heroes the storms all that for mid
[04:11:17] Who's gonna get more momentum in this series and who can pop off?
[04:11:20] Alright, well, whatever hero do get picked, we're just hoping it's going to be a banger of a series.
[04:11:43] Game 2 of Team Yandex vs. P-Vision coming your way here from Dota 2 at the Esports World Cup.
[04:11:49] One of these two teams will be meeting BB Team in the grand finals here in Paris and so far it's
[04:11:55] P-Vision that takes game one of this best of three semi-finals and it uh it wasn't that close but it
[04:12:04] was little strategic wins that allowed them to take the victory and that's the downside I think
[04:12:10] with a series like this from a viewer perspective. Absolutely because these are the top tier teams
[04:12:15] these are the two teams that everybody pretty much gave respect. They're going to be potentially
[04:12:19] being the toughest opponents and winning this EWC because of the reason that if you make a mistake
[04:12:25] they're going to punish it and that small mistake is going to transition into another big mistake
[04:12:30] and it's not going to be close game because these are the type of the teams that are not going to
[04:12:34] be giving you that second chance. I have a question for you Lacoste. What on earth happened to
[04:12:40] Huskar and the Huskar players because I feel like going into this tournament, it was a hero that
[04:12:45] everyone thought about and talked about or we even saw covered in the draft, but as it's progressed,
[04:12:50] nobody cares about Huskar. Ember just gets to play without getting Huskar'd ever. You can pick him
[04:12:54] early in the draft and you never have to worry about Huskar. What's going on here? I had the same
[04:12:58] question and I feel like maybe like this is, things got better overall. This is not a cheesy pick
[04:13:04] by any means because like we've been in Huskar meta for a really long time where all these melee
[04:13:10] mid laners have been on the receiving end but I feel like you could have
[04:13:14] potentially squeezed that in maybe maybe we're not seeing something maybe we're
[04:13:19] not like having the info from potentially scrims that did happen that
[04:13:23] the Huskar did get like quite a lot of bad reputation maybe because he didn't
[04:13:28] really have good win rate so hard to tell. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if
[04:13:33] you're not willing to play Huskar vs Ember and your slaughter has proven to
[04:13:38] be ineffective against Peavision's Ember, then you must take the Ember yourself.
[04:13:44] That is what has to happen here for Yandex, because that Ember really felt like he got
[04:13:48] away with it.
[04:13:49] We did, we are going to have a very different game number two it seems already.
[04:13:54] We still have the teams on the same sides, but the pick order has changed, so it's Peavision
[04:13:58] with first pick and they take the Nature's Prophet.
[04:14:01] We did see Nature's Prophet previous game, but only first phase banned by Peavision themselves.
[04:14:08] And this hero is just proven to be a really effective flex to mid, carry, and support.
[04:14:13] And within the range tier, Omura, he's always going to be comfortable to throw in there.
[04:14:17] And if teams overreact to him, which tends to happen if you pick him early, you can just,
[04:14:22] you know, do a gacha and make him less important.
[04:14:25] If you've seen teams do, like, spirit breaker against him and get cooked.
[04:14:28] Yeah, we've seen nature's profit being a relatively good response to Shadowfiend in
[04:14:32] a sense where you can't outsee as this guy in the lane, never going to happen.
[04:14:37] So the way that people have been playing against Shadowfinn is trying to bring extra bit of
[04:14:40] a heat because of this global presence that you have from Nature's Prophet and then TP
[04:14:45] to his lane, maybe TwinGate rotate with the other support and try to outnumber him.
[04:14:49] And so far from what I've seen, it did look pretty successful.
[04:14:53] Nature's Prophet and P-Vision side, we haven't really seen it from any other role than position
[04:14:58] 1.
[04:14:59] You did mention the flex, because they did flex it to the position 4, you said mid lane,
[04:15:04] which can potentially happen, but of course, P-Vision, they're definitely using this as
[04:15:10] a bait because Nine-Glass, he will definitely play it if it's a good game for it, if they
[04:15:14] want to give their carries slightly more priority.
[04:15:17] Yeah, you know, and I'm looking at this first phase of vans, and there are like tiny little
[04:15:21] things that I find to be very amusing, like they banned Darkseer in my first phase on
[04:15:25] P-Vision, which you then get one more ban, right?
[04:15:29] You're kind of telegraphing, but you want that stuff, but you take Nature's Prophet instead,
[04:15:33] And the undexed are just like, no, we're more scared of Dawnbreaker than we are of getting
[04:15:36] SF to ourselves.
[04:15:37] And that doesn't even enter their mind.
[04:15:39] Like, I just think little things like this are really cool because another team would
[04:15:42] have overreacted potentially and included SF within their first phase of fans.
[04:15:46] Strong composure here.
[04:15:48] Another hero that made it through compared to previous game.
[04:15:51] Is that Undying that we've seen on Maladies?
[04:15:54] Never mind.
[04:15:55] Never mind.
[04:15:56] Second phase.
[04:15:57] Took a little bit of time to get there though.
[04:15:58] I mean, I still think Goodwink is very solid.
[04:16:02] It's proven to be a support that you can blind-click and comfortably build around.
[04:16:06] Yeah, Art's pretty still in the pool. That's the big one for me because of the
[04:16:10] nine-class performances that we've seen from position four.
[04:16:13] And this is also something that no one did bring into the meta, kind of,
[04:16:17] during the TI qualifiers where he played it four or five times.
[04:16:20] It looked pretty much unstoppable, and then everybody else started to copy it.
[04:16:23] So, potentially looking into that one as well.
[04:16:26] There's also Keeper of the Light available.
[04:16:29] I think this opens up so many combos in the game from the off lane where we're talking about the beast master from the mid lane with
[04:16:35] The pango with the ember spirits and it's also one of the heroes that nine class really enjoys to play
[04:16:40] But also I assume they don't want to be picking this on their side straight out of the face because
[04:16:45] They still want to be using this NP potentially as a flex a lot of times they use this as a flex
[04:16:50] But it kind of never happens on the vision. I've got three heroes to throw into the mix
[04:16:55] I just got two because Bane got removed but Lena and Keeper of the Light are both still in compared to previous game
[04:17:00] And the Keeper is the big one that you have to have something prepared for and the hood isn't taken up
[04:17:06] I understand that this year it just gives you damage and she wins the lanes and it doesn't reveal too much
[04:17:12] But if you're giving away coddled P vision you have to be ready to play against Ember Spirit again
[04:17:16] Which is kind of where my concern is for Yandex because if their Ember Spirit response is slaughtered they have to move away from that
[04:17:23] It just didn't work out.
[04:17:27] I would imagine that they will have a plan against it.
[04:17:31] If we see it coming, they will too.
[04:17:33] So keeper of the light already picked up, we'll see what combination they'll take with
[04:17:37] it.
[04:17:38] You can only imagine that if you don't pick Ember here, maybe you will get your Ember
[04:17:44] spirit stolen.
[04:17:46] They have the other options as well.
[04:17:47] They have pango, they have earth spirit.
[04:17:49] I think, like if they pick our Spirit, it's kind of locked into a mid lane,
[04:17:53] because Keeper of the Light, they don't really play it from position 5,
[04:17:57] like we've seen certain teams do, but I like this bearing.
[04:18:00] This has been one of my favorite off lanes,
[04:18:03] because you just spam out whoever comes to that lane,
[04:18:06] and it's also very good, again, if this is going to be position 5.
[04:18:09] Hoodwing, for this reason, you are going to be kind of removing all the trees,
[04:18:13] and then Hoodwing can't really find the angle,
[04:18:15] and it gets very difficult for enemy position 5 to approach and trade with Keeper of the Light trade with Beastmaster.
[04:18:22] You can just do clockwork, headwind play for it.
[04:18:27] Yeah, clock is always fine. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day, they say.
[04:18:34] But I do like the Beastmaster being shown here because it's still very ambiguous in where it goes
[04:18:39] and have they gone for their Spirit mid right off the bat, then you just get the Sardar for Yandex
[04:18:44] which they've looked really good on, just not against Ember Spirit.
[04:18:47] Yeah.
[04:18:52] Taking their time here, this is the time where they get to pick two heroes,
[04:18:55] they'll go for the Enchantress, not a very popular hero.
[04:18:58] We have seen some people pick it up.
[04:19:01] Why here, right now?
[04:19:02] She's a good hero against Beastmaster if he's played in her lane,
[04:19:06] because she can enchant the boar and take away half of his laning strength,
[04:19:10] but you can also just throw the Beastmaster mid in that case
[04:19:13] that case if you're not willing to lane against the enchantress.
[04:19:16] Yeah most definitely we've seen bees being kind of flexed between three other
[04:19:21] roles like we even seen in mid Beastmaster as you mentioned we've seen
[04:19:26] carry Beastmasters on top of that like they need a body they need something
[04:19:29] that's gonna be soaking up the damage from their lane like whatever we're
[04:19:32] talking about some underworld because most of the heroes that the DM has played
[04:19:35] so far have been banned out. We're talking about Darkshear, Enigma, Centaur, he does
[04:19:41] I have one more and that's Konkai was that was the one that I was about to mention that
[04:19:46] Is a is a catch is a body in front
[04:19:49] This is the hero that can build into any item that you need but we're talking about you know
[04:19:53] Spirit Vessel what do you want to go for any aura? It does feel good
[04:19:57] and it's also
[04:19:59] Potentially a hero that they can leave in the mid lane if it's a good matchup for it. Yeah, they can for sure
[04:20:05] I mean, I don't imagine CJ
[04:20:07] We'll throw away the opportunity to have a counter pick at the very end, but here comes
[04:20:12] the Ember that we mentioned.
[04:20:14] I would be a little bit disappointed if they ran back to Slardar.
[04:20:17] I just don't feel like it gave them enough.
[04:20:19] I want to see the Viper, who's in the Hustka, just come out now and force CJ, because Dam's
[04:20:24] Conqueror, it's going to give you that body that you mentioned the cost.
[04:20:27] It's going to give you that anchor, that teamfighting, so don't overreact and run back
[04:20:31] to Slardar.
[04:20:32] I keep mentioning it, but I just don't think it did enough against the Ember on lane.
[04:20:36] Like when Ember is shown, you have to punish it.
[04:20:39] We'll see what the bands are coming out from P-Vision, as I'm sure they're gonna target some good counters to that Ember spirit as well.
[04:20:46] On their side, we still need a hero for most likely to call us on this.
[04:20:51] There's gonna be some roll swaps with the Nature's Prophet, which we're not really expecting, but we should always keep in the backs of our minds.
[04:20:58] Yeah, I'd be okay with maybe something to stabilize the lane, like Lich potentially,
[04:21:06] Wyvern could come out, big fan of Wyvern as a hero, I feel like this hero is insanely
[04:21:12] good at what it does in the lane, the scaling, like they've seen so many good combos, like
[04:21:15] even combos that don't really feel like combos where people have been using Darkseer backing,
[04:21:21] for example, to pull them back in, and they're gonna be removing the hero that we mentioned
[04:21:25] relatively early on, like this Invoker, CJ Invoker, one of the best ones out there, had
[04:21:29] some really good performances so far at EWC.
[04:21:33] And in terms of catch, Kunka gave them that catch, like the X mark in the Sun Strike would
[04:21:37] be a very cheap and potent combo.
[04:21:40] Yeah, I like the idea of Lich just because when you play against some Tantris, you know,
[04:21:44] she's going to make some early moves towards your tier ones, and Lich is the hero that
[04:21:48] can just press his armor on the tower and maybe mitigate some of that stress.
[04:21:53] The Wyvern can work in terms of clearing the lane with the Splinter Blast, but not as effective in terms of the defensive game.
[04:22:03] If not Wyvern or Lich, if they both get banned out, what other supports can play a more stabilizing early game?
[04:22:09] I mean, Clockwork is still in the pool. I could be okay with Clockwork, and there's one guy that I feel like has been underutilized.
[04:22:16] They picked it once, and that's Ogre.
[04:22:18] I feel like this is a type of a hero that loves to lane with Nature's Prophet.
[04:22:22] It gives them the body, something to soak up the damage.
[04:22:25] Because at level 1, even level 2, it depends.
[04:22:29] Bloodlust is an insane spell. It gives you 35 attack speed and gives you a good amount of move speed as well, 6%.
[04:22:36] So let's see what they're going to decide for.
[04:22:38] I think Lech gives them slightly more control. It gives them slightly more teamfight as well.
[04:22:43] I'm down for that. I feel like also this hero has been unutilized.
[04:23:04] Yeah, I think this hero has a place in meta. Not many other position 5s are willing to pick it, because it's a bit of a hit or miss.
[04:23:15] It's also a hero that can build into different items you build into. Four staffs all across anything that your team needs, and it's going to feel relatively good.
[04:23:24] I mean, I'm looking at P-Vision's draft, though, and the same way that Yandex's felt very one-note and good at the one-note that it does,
[04:23:32] P-Vision is very single target heavy. Even with the Ogre as your five, it's not giving you teamfight, it's giving you Sun target,
[04:23:38] it's going to give you carry-nutrious-profit attack speed, but your Beastmaster also very single target with their final roar,
[04:23:44] so less of a well-rounded draft.
[04:23:47] How do you feel about Monkey King against Ember?
[04:23:49] There was a one game that at least I've seen so far at UWC where people try to counter December Spirit with Monkey King
[04:23:56] It looked okay in the lane, but I feel like this heroes it's not an S tier hero
[04:24:00] It's not an A tier hero by any means I would give them maybe like B at the moment. It feels like with all these nerves a
[04:24:07] Lot of the times this hero it gives you the team fight
[04:24:10] Of course you there's a good synergy between their heroes that they have like the triple core with the physical damage and whatnot
[04:24:16] but I feel like it's a little lackluster what it brings to the table in the mid-game, especially if you die once or twice.
[04:24:24] Yeah, that's the issue with Monkey King is that one or two deaths kind of just slow you down.
[04:24:29] But I do think the lane is still very good for Zomber Spirit, and I think CJ can make it work.
[04:24:34] But I do like the scouting and vision aspect that Monkey King provides because you're playing in scary nature's profit and keeper of the light.
[04:24:41] These are heroes that you need to scout, heroes that you need to see in the backline,
[04:24:44] and Monkey King is a hero that can find them and set up for them.
[04:24:47] So it definitely makes sense within this context,
[04:24:49] but I need CJ to pull off that landing stage.
[04:24:52] Sounds like they are the ones that want to set the tempo in this game,
[04:24:56] which we saw them not being successful in game one.
[04:25:01] Again, it's a lot on shoulders of CJ
[04:25:03] because he needs to be the one making all these moves
[04:25:06] because support to it, they're okay when they are going to be playing.
[04:25:10] Like, Enchantress, I feel this hero has also been underpicked in a way because what the
[04:25:15] hero brings, I feel like it has a very strong place in meta.
[04:25:18] Even from position 4, a Falcons played a couple of times, it's looked unstoppable in the games
[04:25:22] that they played it, but I just feel like this Monkey King, it's like, I hit or miss
[04:25:28] in the cases that I've seen him, it's been more miss.
[04:25:31] I've been worrying.
[04:25:34] I've been worrying for this game, Effie.
[04:25:36] a lot of you pulls it off she's because I really do think if CJ has a great
[04:25:39] laning stage and manages to snowball his enchantress is gonna come in they're
[04:25:43] gonna be able to take the tower they're gonna be able to set the tempo and
[04:25:47] scout out these offline heroes it really is just laning dependent on if CJ pulls
[04:25:52] it off I really favor your matches draft here sounds like that the CJ has to
[04:25:57] threat the needle real carefully there no pressure though I will say CJ has been
[04:26:02] very strong in the mid and definitely a standout player so if anybody can
[04:26:06] apply the pressure to propel himself forward it is him can he do so can they
[04:26:13] force out a third game to this semi-finals or will p-vision lock in
[04:26:18] their place in the grand finals we're finding out with Kat and SPG. At the
[04:26:23] start of the series Avery you said that Ember Spirit is a hero to look down for
[04:26:27] in a clash between these two teams is a hero that has been doing very well at
[04:26:31] this tournament it's been hard for teams to be able to shut it down and for
[04:26:35] But you're a junior, well you're not going to draft a Huskar.
[04:26:38] They tried out the Slaughter, now they're going to try the Monkey King.
[04:26:42] What do you think about this, Avery?
[04:26:43] Is this going to be the answer to him?
[04:26:45] I think Monkey is the most volatile answer you can get against him for right now.
[04:26:49] Okay, there's a hitter, Avery.
[04:26:51] It either flops real bad or it succeeds to such a large margin, you just 1v5 the game.
[04:26:56] This is a great Monkey King game outside of that lane 2 though.
[04:26:59] He has a good match against Perion, he has pretty good matchups against the other, just
[04:27:02] like low damage bodies in this game. You know, it's like Ogre coddling, get on top of. Bees can
[04:27:07] sometimes be annoying with boars, but I think at a game like this where there's no removal for
[04:27:11] Jingu, like you should be really confident just going and playing aggressive with your two supports.
[04:27:15] You have two really aggressive supports to help you snowball this game, gank mid, put a lot of
[04:27:20] pressure through this mid lane to snowball the map. That is a very scary thing for this P-Vision
[04:27:24] lineup to deal with because Ogre is not the best at early fighting anymore. You're kind of picking
[04:27:29] can infer the scale with the bloodlust a little bit of a body later on but he's
[04:27:33] not gonna stop this gandex support to running the map so a lot of explosive
[04:27:39] potential coming through these three heroes out of that mid lane that is what
[04:27:42] you want to see from this gandex lineup and if they can execute that I agree that
[04:27:47] there's not a lot that stops it just running the map over you don't have
[04:27:51] heroes that it can trade well with the one-two-king without any sort of
[04:27:55] jingle purge so it looks pretty solid in that sense it's gonna come down to a lot
[04:27:58] of execution here. How much can cheer junior get out of this mid-lane in the early stages
[04:28:02] and how much of those support rotations come through? Getting the early vantage satanic
[04:28:08] using the trans very well managed to deny one of the body runes so it's a 2-1 split.
[04:28:14] Very nice actually hear that one. We're gonna start off with a early mid of action here is
[04:28:21] Watson. Gonna be getting from behind by nine-class so you're trying to body block them as much as
[04:28:26] They can it's not gonna work out though, and now the turnaround races are a bit of a threat
[04:28:31] You can check pretty interesting like that is for sure
[04:28:34] Malady can do a lot of damage here in the first 10 minutes is still basically the most powerful early game support
[04:28:41] If the game goes in your favor and you can get to some fast level 3 and 5 you're just an absolute beast on the map
[04:28:47] Huge threat wherever malady goes so potentially free monkey game potentially a free enchantress game
[04:28:53] I mean this sounds like the index are very well set up for at least the first 20 minutes
[04:28:58] They should be and they should be confident in that. That's a great hero
[04:29:01] You can roam to the cook does maybe look a little odd. He's out
[04:29:04] I don't know if he has that much early aggression to synergize with this lineup
[04:29:08] But it is a hero that seems super comfortable with you get a fast mode up. I maybe get that cheeky kill
[04:29:14] It's a solid comfy game. It's a hero that sets up like if other heroes are having a good game
[04:29:20] He sets them up very well for sure right you can give you a lot of sustain a lot of extra team-type power
[04:29:25] And he's a very tanky body himself
[04:29:27] Which my biggest concern with the p-vision lineup is getting to that point where the damage comes online that they can scale their
[04:29:33] Cores up get some big damage items and blow us everybody. It's gonna be insane
[04:29:36] You gotta get over that threshold a little bit otherwise this support tool is not giving you a damn extra
[04:29:41] You have some nice to stay in from the cobble a little bit of DPS over is pretty low damage
[04:29:46] It's all about the force here, in my opinion.
[04:29:49] How do you deal with this off-lane duel of Kahnel Beastmaster?
[04:29:53] We've seen this before earlier in the tournament.
[04:29:55] It just ruins many a safe lane here.
[04:29:58] Maybe DM's in trouble actually blocked in by the Scraut and he eats through, but...
[04:30:01] It's too late for that.
[04:30:02] First blood goes to Satanic.
[04:30:04] They just wind the lane straight up.
[04:30:06] You know, you get the first blood off of early Teleport.
[04:30:08] Alright, they put Treants on him.
[04:30:10] Level 1 Bloodlust, just straight beat it.
[04:30:12] There's no way around it.
[04:30:14] Rough start to that lane, drinks are so strong now, unless you have some way to steal them
[04:30:20] or instigate them, which doesn't really exist on too many heroes.
[04:30:23] The Coddle Beast should be strong up here in terms of pushing the wave out.
[04:30:26] If you don't feed that early kills the enchanters, you can look for it with the level 3, but
[04:30:30] otherwise you're probably looking for the roll.
[04:30:32] The best thing you can do against it is block camps.
[04:30:35] Don't let the stacking go out of that triangle.
[04:30:36] They already blocked the big camp with a sentry.
[04:30:39] There's only this ancient camp.
[04:30:40] If you keep the lane pressure high, you should punish this Coddle every time he leaves the
[04:30:43] the lane, so I like the deep lane ward. That's why this exists up here. You want to see where
[04:30:48] nine class goes. If you use the lane to go stack, and one of those camps is already
[04:30:51] blocked, instantly you're going on the Beastmaster, you have the all-in-potential with the raises,
[04:30:55] so very heads-up early warding game should set you up to punish this lane, all those
[04:30:59] other things come into play.
[04:31:01] So far, he hasn't really thought about leaving lane at all, just charging this Beastmaster
[04:31:06] up for a wild-axis spam over and over and over again in the SF. It's beginning to build
[04:31:10] up malady is has the heel so we can take away the boards you can help keep the sf
[04:31:15] topped up against this constant span I'd like to see them go for the police killer
[04:31:19] here they have level 200 chance coming back up you have raises you have lotus
[04:31:22] double fairy fire on lots he's not as low as he looks I don't think you want to
[04:31:26] sit up here and let notice continue to get chip damage on you you want to make
[04:31:29] these big trades that are in your favor and then make some moves elsewhere if you
[04:31:33] can this time we got about inside of the game well that's the one that's the
[04:31:39] classic. Of course, look. And Cheer Junior is doing very well for himself. He's currently
[04:31:42] sitting at a CS of 23 and 12. Very nice. Lots of denies. I mean, we saw in Game 1, a
[04:31:50] heavy laning phase lead for P-Vision. Largely off the underlord, the amount of denies he
[04:31:56] got there. But Cheer Junior is good in work. He's good in the work. That's what you want
[04:32:00] to see out of this last pick. He has the early boots. He has a denied vantage, which turns
[04:32:04] and do a level advantage here, will easily outpace no one to that level 6 territory.
[04:32:09] So you're gonna have a nice window to punish this Ember before he has the remnant online.
[04:32:13] And I, you really have to keep a check on these supports in this game.
[04:32:17] Either support going to mid is a kill on this Ember if you get the Jingo up,
[04:32:20] which is pretty reliable against this hero. Yeah. Especially with the early Orb of Frost
[04:32:26] that he's been using to keep the Ember Spirit in range to get those stacks.
[04:32:29] Double Bracer built up for DM.
[04:32:34] Getting a little tankier down here.
[04:32:39] You need to get these sidelaners as independent as fast as possible, if you are in Andix.
[04:32:44] That is DML here.
[04:32:45] The sooner that Watson and DM can stand on their own, then you get that role going.
[04:32:50] If you play to the monkey, you're going to be happy.
[04:32:52] Alternatives, you bring monkey to one of these sidelanes, but I just didn't give you Ember that kind of freedom when you counterfeit this matchup.
[04:32:58] It's not as efficient. It doesn't feel as good. It's a viable option for sure
[04:33:04] But I guarantee you every monkey games matches like I want to kill this guy. I want to smack his face
[04:33:09] I want to force enemy supports to try and bail off December spirit and join a bad engagement, right?
[04:33:15] That is like deal if you can line it up. Cheers, Junior. I'm watching when it comes to this. Yes
[04:33:20] He's prioritizing tonight. He really wants to keep no one down an experience first and foremost. He's a full level ahead
[04:33:26] It's working out right now
[04:33:28] It doesn't need the water runes either, so don't really care about rotating for those.
[04:33:33] It's all about the kill attempt.
[04:33:34] Catapults, online, this is an option to look for.
[04:33:39] Yeah, where's the, like, enchantress move to take advantage of this catapult?
[04:33:44] Where's the hoodwink to try and go for the kill, prioritizing side-laner morale right now?
[04:33:50] That's fair enough, this Beastmaster is so annoying for SF to deal with.
[04:33:53] They're actually gonna rotate Soxa in, he's gonna wrap around.
[04:33:56] So it's gonna be spotted here by nine class could still hit the bush whack lands it on notice one raised lands
[04:34:01] But your call is coming in from back and now they've got the fourth year coming in it's a tanic with the teleport
[04:34:05] Watson's gonna die. It's as much damage out there as possible before he goes down
[04:34:10] But his death was inevitable as soon as the ogre came in not sure like going to the slain as the index to me
[04:34:16] This is not the point you want to attack the furan is gonna kind of play that every time
[04:34:21] heads up
[04:34:22] Rotation put to call us though. He's just already there. Yeah, he read it really
[04:34:26] early. That was a big difference maker. That's a big blow. Committee supports up
[04:34:32] here and you're gonna lose. Still catching socks though. The Lotus is not
[04:34:36] enough to keep him alive and Valady Norlotsen can go for the punish either.
[04:34:40] Now we do have this seven minute wisdom shine with the experience advantage the
[04:34:43] Monkey King has. He's rotating over. We've talked about this before where you could just
[04:34:47] kind of set up early on on this wisdom. This is not... I think he can fight all
[04:34:53] three year yeah I think so too in fact it's more of a question how many heroes
[04:34:57] are peepers you're gonna lose thinking they can take this nice more to place
[04:35:01] down to this is really cool you should put debate in here they don't know the
[04:35:05] monkeys already behind this play well no one is definitely saying monkeys missing
[04:35:09] guys here for a while but do they know he's already behind them right now and
[04:35:14] he said he got malty's gonna be a little bit now the jump in cheer junior
[04:35:17] trying to get off the wukong's command gets load up by the fireflash to see if
[04:35:20] They can get this one kill at least, and they do.
[04:35:23] The wisdom shrine also goes the way of Yandex.
[04:35:25] So double wisdoms plus a kill.
[04:35:27] Big Cheer Junior was hoping that was gonna be a bigger splash than it was.
[04:35:30] They went a little more into that.
[04:35:33] That's okay though.
[04:35:34] You got what you came for.
[04:35:35] You got some Jingu to play with.
[04:35:37] Another boundless and five.
[04:35:38] You can maybe look for some cheeky kill top.
[04:35:41] Socks a clean up the experience mid.
[04:35:43] It's gonna linger up here.
[04:35:46] Gets the Troll on the notice, actually stops, he's bound to strike for a second there,
[04:35:53] finally gets it off, gets the heal required, if he needs that heal, Wukong's commandant
[04:35:56] is going to be thrown out, see Tannock trying to go for the kill on Watson, Watson and the
[04:35:59] Monkey King, he tells Mantra to pop the Magic Wand and he jumps over to one of his statues,
[04:36:03] he gets away from the Ember Spirit as no one, he blindly went to one side hoping that he
[04:36:08] would be able to all in the Monkey King and it doesn't work for him.
[04:36:11] The outcome is good for Yandex.
[04:36:14] It sucks almost time there to both the treants and the boar, but I think he is going to get
[04:36:20] away.
[04:36:21] He can't from this wrath of nature coming through.
[04:36:23] You have six on the fury on the SF still five, give a little carry advantage to Satanic.
[04:36:28] Makes it work, does pay with his price.
[04:36:30] Yandex very happy to see his fury on go down.
[04:36:32] I feel like every time you kill Satanic, it buys you like five minutes in the game.
[04:36:36] How long did you?
[04:36:39] Even getting disabled here, you didn't get the perfect strike off, but it's just so much
[04:36:43] big, chunk damage coming out from these two, and then...
[04:36:46] Wukong's gonna be a problem.
[04:36:47] I feel like there was a split damage, right?
[04:36:49] No one wants to kill the monkey while C-Tandic is hitting the SF.
[04:36:52] It feels like they could've gotten, uh, you know, a bit better situation out of that.
[04:36:58] It's just awkward with this change in the guard.
[04:37:00] Like, it makes him a lot...
[04:37:01] A lot harder to bring out into Wukong in general, so if you over-commit, he gets it off the fight.
[04:37:07] really weird really quickly right I think people are also doing pretty well in
[04:37:12] these fights though again I don't think these early scumches necessarily
[04:37:15] favor them until you have a lot more support levels here we also haven't
[04:37:19] seen the Kunko really join anything yet the end is quietly farming bottom he's
[04:37:23] going for potentially first aid of Lootis nice read his situation satanic
[04:37:28] backs out from defending his safe lane tower leads and trains behind to keep the
[04:37:32] tower up a bit longer while the farm's some neutral, smarter way as the wasted
[04:37:38] move is going to be wasted. This is the risk of moving the monkey to the
[04:37:42] side lane instead of having the game blow through mid, because every time this
[04:37:45] happens the ember gets time to catch up in this game, whether it's just through
[04:37:48] jungle and his mid lane is getting absorbed by Sephork, where he gets to farm that out.
[04:37:55] Full results, nice little tower down here with the Enchantress Roman. Now this means
[04:37:59] your next move is to make like four sure in this game.
[04:38:02] It's a good thing to think about it a lot.
[04:38:04] Right.
[04:38:04] That enchantress backstab is a very natural sequitur
[04:38:08] to this bottom lane falling.
[04:38:11] And DM has all the levels that he is kind of
[04:38:14] scaring these fights now.
[04:38:15] It's Maxed out Tidebringer and the ghost ship ready to go.
[04:38:18] If they get the cook in the middle of the fight,
[04:38:20] then they're favored for sure.
[04:38:22] That's a not an easy thing to do sometimes though
[04:38:25] in these programs.
[04:38:26] It's just such a clunky hero early on.
[04:38:29] Especially when you only have one point DX.
[04:38:32] Keeping into these fights with one point X, against some of these mobile heroes like Fury on Ember and I kind of choose when they commit.
[04:38:38] You're just sitting there thinking like, man if I keep it I don't get anything here.
[04:38:42] He onto to teleport to their own safe lane here. He'll take control of that, ESF.
[04:38:47] Once no business playing that side of the map where it's likely to be interfered with by the Ember spirit, no one has already shown that he, that's his game plan.
[04:38:55] That was career.
[04:38:57] No jingle though.
[04:38:59] Catched a callous.
[04:39:01] Gotta take these heroes out of your own jungle area as best you can.
[04:39:05] There's a trade malady on the other side though.
[04:39:08] And a callous is probably fine with that exchange.
[04:39:11] Like you're taking enchanters off the map early for an over.
[04:39:14] Feed my guess.
[04:39:16] You're way more useful than me right now.
[04:39:18] What do you make of this very early Lotus or...
[04:39:22] Or a Kunkka?
[04:39:24] That's why I was debating
[04:39:26] It's it's a good Lotus or game. There's no doubt about that. But is it a first item kind of?
[04:39:33] Definitely not gonna accelerate your farm or your like presence on the map
[04:39:36] Yeah, it will be really nice for the monkey king though
[04:39:38] And if you're gonna put all of your eggs in the monkey king basket
[04:39:41] You better make sure he has the backup to just stick in the fights right and that's that's like kind of like it
[04:39:47] You feel like it's gonna help cheer junior a lot
[04:39:49] It will pay off here. No, it's an idea and notice I just get the last hit off of the board
[04:39:54] And they've lost their mid-towel.
[04:39:58] That's just not what I would expect between these two drafts.
[04:40:00] Yeah, with an enchantress lineup?
[04:40:01] Yeah.
[04:40:04] Power of Eastmaster.
[04:40:06] Seeing this hero be played.
[04:40:08] Kind of old-school beast style.
[04:40:09] Like, just going for this helm build up into early tower pressure with some nice rotations.
[04:40:15] Even when you nerf this hero.
[04:40:18] There's another style.
[04:40:19] There's...
[04:40:19] Yeah, there's always a way out for Eastmaster, it seems nowadays.
[04:40:22] To call us, he's gonna be chased down on his own side of the map this time.
[04:40:26] Just cannot get that level 6 easy, and it's pushing Chira Jr. to a faster and faster deso.
[04:40:32] This area of the map should be very difficult for P-Vision to access.
[04:40:36] There's some chanceous monkey that can very quickly connect in these areas.
[04:40:40] If you never de-ward some of the P-Vision ops in here, it becomes kind of a death zone.
[04:40:45] Very scary place to be.
[04:40:47] But you defended your mid-tier one, it's full HP.
[04:40:50] So that is a big tower to play around in this game for the Ember.
[04:40:53] You can always bring reinforcements into a dive situation.
[04:40:55] Kind of limits where this monkey can go.
[04:40:57] Oh, I was going to say, Yedix, I feel like they've been waiting.
[04:41:00] They've been trying to find a big core kill this entire time.
[04:41:03] All they've got is supports, but killing C-Tanning.
[04:41:06] That's going to do a lot for them, but they have to be able to fight their way out.
[04:41:08] And they got the roar off before the Wukong's command.
[04:41:11] Really fast rotation for the P-Vision cores of Nodus and Noa.
[04:41:15] Instant TP.
[04:41:16] With the amp damage on Noa, you have enough firepower to turn that around
[04:41:19] before any sort of Wukong shenanigans come out.
[04:41:24] Is that worth it?
[04:41:26] Not really.
[04:41:28] You're giving so much space to this Ember, he has a full vessel right now.
[04:41:31] Yeah, you got Titanic again.
[04:41:33] That's always gonna feel nice.
[04:41:35] But you're losing your big accelerator on this monkey.
[04:41:37] His desolator's getting delayed.
[04:41:38] The Ember's accelerated.
[04:41:39] This Ember's about to be higher net worth than your monkey king in the counter pick situation.
[04:41:44] This is not what you wanted in terms of that overall game plan.
[04:41:47] He visioned just playing a little faster in this series.
[04:41:51] We're not seeing that same sort of moment of buildup pre-index that we saw earlier on
[04:41:56] where they were just kind of turning one move into another, gaining momentum lots and has absolute free farm.
[04:42:00] There's been pressure kind of going into all of them at different points.
[04:42:03] Baby DM has had the most freedom, but he's also the hero that kind of needs the most levels to get activated here
[04:42:10] and is probably the most difficult to get involved.
[04:42:13] Yeah, he does have a higher levels of X now, so it is a bit easier for him. Smoke on smoke, but it is Pete Disher once again outnumbering the FX.
[04:42:23] And they are just going to head for the hills here, leave DM behind, keep the two supports alive.
[04:42:31] When you have vessel online, spots a courier, that's a helmet, an overlord that's going to be taken away.
[04:42:35] Nice pick up there by Soxa. Definitely worth showing on the map.
[04:42:39] And you got wisdom trends.
[04:42:40] Shines. Yeah, very honestly not a bad exchange for Yandex overall. Pretty good. Pretty good.
[04:42:45] This could have died in the corner of the map, so you're not really translating it into anything big.
[04:42:51] Even better if like Malady, not the right creeps for it, but if he can maybe like cut some waves
[04:42:56] in this top lane with the creep, that'd be super valuable, you know.
[04:43:02] Can you finish off the Dessal on the monkey? So both these mid laners have their big damage item
[04:43:06] now it's about who gets to use it better. But this is where the caudal can keep the
[04:43:11] ember out on the map and power up that vessel with the... with the solar bind. It becomes
[04:43:16] pretty nasty in terms of that TPS output. I guess the early Lotus on the hookah definitely
[04:43:21] will help with that too.
[04:43:23] Yeah, both line-up features some interesting damage and, right, solar binds and axes amplifying
[04:43:31] versus the minus armor duo of SF and the Stesso Monkey King.
[04:43:35] I thought you were talking about rabble rouser.
[04:43:39] Wasn't thinking about rabble rouser.
[04:43:40] Weren't thinking about the rabble rouser.
[04:43:42] DM...
[04:43:44] Defensive Torrent keeps him up.
[04:43:47] And he's just about to complete that loader.
[04:43:49] So, now we can deal with that Solar Bind better.
[04:43:51] Maybe bounce back a roar on the Beastmaster.
[04:43:54] That is the one problem, right?
[04:43:55] They don't have a hard, hard save if Beastmaster gets a good roar.
[04:44:02] Monkey jumping away into the trees.
[04:44:04] Did they spawn?
[04:44:04] Oh, I don't think they saw him. They knocked him down!
[04:44:06] Cheer, Junior! Has to go Kong's command down, trying to defend himself.
[04:44:11] Jumps to one of the statues, but he doesn't really have a way out here.
[04:44:15] Slight change, sticky him down. He jumps to another statue,
[04:44:18] but the area he's surrounded, they spot him on the fire glass.
[04:44:21] And a blood grenade, and finally nine-class with the blast, right on through.
[04:44:25] He almost got out of there. You know, it's called his golf.
[04:44:27] It shows you how strong his monkey is, but...
[04:44:29] Just completely isolated in a bad part of the map for the rest of the team to get to.
[04:44:37] I feel like that's been the end of the series.
[04:44:39] We just haven't really seen the index kind of rally around the core they want to at the right time and make something happen.
[04:44:45] Sure.
[04:44:46] See, I'm gonna push off this mid. This is not close enough to get caught.
[04:44:50] And even starting to group up, they have that helm back completed on the Beastmaster off of the Courier Dept.
[04:44:56] You have three points in the bloodlust, you have four points in the Chalker magic.
[04:45:01] The enabling is here.
[04:45:03] So whichever core you're running behind with these supports is going to be a beast.
[04:45:07] Alright, I guess the Black Dragon.
[04:45:09] We'll get some enabling here.
[04:45:10] That is a...
[04:45:11] Hey, Black Dragon.
[04:45:12] Yeah, if you've cleared out this area, do you just try and force the...
[04:45:17] This is a very dangerous rush.
[04:45:18] Yeah, I mean...
[04:45:19] This is not guaranteed at all.
[04:45:20] Against a monkey king, he doesn't have Wukong's sman, so they know that much.
[04:45:24] Chintris also with 4.0 can just run in in front line.
[04:45:26] Right.
[04:45:27] And it's not an easy target to bring out quickly.
[04:45:29] You have to commit a Vessel Charge plus Solar Bind,
[04:45:31] and likely some other spells.
[04:45:32] Do you think P-Vision never intended to do Roach on?
[04:45:34] They were just trying to pull Yandex into a potential fight?
[04:45:38] Probably yes.
[04:45:39] It's very scary to commit for that Roach
[04:45:41] without knowing where Yandex are.
[04:45:44] So Yandex are playing very defensively.
[04:45:47] They're not giving that fight just yet.
[04:45:48] But you know P-Vision is going to try and force it anyway.
[04:45:51] It's like chains opening on Mallon.
[04:45:53] Not the guy you want to see.
[04:45:54] Certainly not.
[04:45:55] And they don't commit.
[04:45:58] If they can take this off-lane tier one tower, though,
[04:46:00] with siege wagon and the Beastmaster creeps taking for it,
[04:46:05] the Index are going to play more of the map.
[04:46:09] No one trying to deal with mid-wave.
[04:46:10] It's a little dangerous to be somehow got chain stun here.
[04:46:14] There's not a lot of chain stun in this item.
[04:46:16] We're going to have to do some crisp execution
[04:46:19] to punish the Ember in this game.
[04:46:21] I feel like that has been the story of Ember this tournament.
[04:46:24] The hero keeps getting picked, keeps getting slightly counterpicked.
[04:46:27] He doesn't get demolished and laying hard enough, and then you have to play against Ember Dota, and it becomes an issue.
[04:46:33] Grab a nice little shielder in here as well. This game is becoming a little bit of a stalemate.
[04:46:41] What do you make of DM's gonna opt for Consecrated Wraps' second item after the loads?
[04:46:48] That signals it's go time to me.
[04:46:51] Like you're just saying 20 to 30 minutes we have to get a lot done in T-Fights.
[04:46:57] And I think that is what this line wants to do, I think that is the correct approach.
[04:47:00] You have to get Roshan's in that period, you have to force fights.
[04:47:04] You don't want to let this turn into some split push game where Piri and Ember are ratting your waves
[04:47:08] and somebody eventually gets picked off by Roar.
[04:47:11] Somebody needs to frontline. Consecrated rafts make you a lot tankier to make that happen.
[04:47:17] All he has to do is make space, right?
[04:47:20] He's got two pretty hefty damage dealers in the Monkey and SF.
[04:47:23] For sure.
[04:47:24] You don't need more damage here.
[04:47:25] You just need to survive with the fight.
[04:47:27] One could argue Pipe is a little better for your other two cores than the Raps here, which
[04:47:30] is more just for you.
[04:47:31] Chair, Jr.
[04:47:32] Oh, the Sly doesn't hit him, but it's gonna outrun him.
[04:47:35] That's gonna attack him with damage.
[04:47:37] Once again, Wukong's command used defensively.
[04:47:39] A little bit of trickery, getting closer to his team.
[04:47:42] His team will back him up this time.
[04:47:44] That's who we're calling down, though.
[04:47:46] Little resource taken away, but cheer junior I mean, I think he is okay with this game, no fights happening until he gets BKB.
[04:47:56] Which he almost has the hammer, no perfect off on the cause in the mid lane. A fast kill, take it, get out, especially with that mid tier 1 tower still standing.
[04:48:06] Nice little play for the index.
[04:48:10] At least you get some deser charges. Yeah, thankfully something pushed that monkey towards the BKP
[04:48:16] Trying to chase down this helmet and Tom creep a black dragon. I don't know if he's dead, but he's in the river now
[04:48:22] So it is running fast. Very fast up there
[04:48:27] So the split push, this line of paths all three cores can contribute to the lane pressure
[04:48:31] They're gonna teleport behind the end. They're tired of this X-Marx's spot. Nonsense. It's a tannin.
[04:48:36] Cast him away with a Hurricane Plank, a Lotus, and try and go for a TP, but you just roar right through it.
[04:48:43] And maybe that's the pick-off that P-Vision feels good enough to do Roche.
[04:48:47] This is the style of Game P-Vision 1. Lane's going in, someone's trying to kill a Black Dragon top.
[04:48:51] Someone's dealing with the way they got pushed to tier 2 bottom. You find a roar pick-off, that's going to translate into an objective.
[04:48:57] The Enix cannot move up and find the teamfights they want right now.
[04:49:00] The map gameplay is just too crisp.
[04:49:03] That is where Fury on shines.
[04:49:05] You love this kind of, you know, you have to react to me, you have to split up, and then
[04:49:10] I just get to pick my moment, and I make those moments count for a lot more because I can
[04:49:14] always clean the waves up for the wrath of nature.
[04:49:19] Manta is done for Watson, and the BKB is going to be done very soon for tier G, so we are
[04:49:26] going to reach this big timing for Yanmix, but once again, it's a timing that is right
[04:49:30] SPVision are kicking in the gear with the first Rochon they claim.
[04:49:35] I don't think they should be afraid to fight into it, if they can get a good fight going.
[04:49:40] You just can't be afraid to fight with the Monkey King pick here.
[04:49:51] Titanic, straight into top.
[04:49:52] Gonna try and put some pressure on this Tier 2.
[04:49:54] And this is the type of situation where you can take this engagement,
[04:49:58] And you should want to take this engagement in view as long as you can get everybody here.
[04:50:05] This is where the Kunkka can get an actual teamfight.
[04:50:07] And he invested in Lotus plus the wrap, so...
[04:50:10] If I'm DM'ed, hell yeah, this guy's hit my tower, let's take this fight.
[04:50:14] And he has no BKB.
[04:50:16] You pop the glyph, but, uh, Seathantic doesn't care.
[04:50:20] It is almost brought down this tier two already. They're gonna play some X-Marx's spot, Tidebringer hit.
[04:50:24] The endix is... extremely cautious.
[04:50:28] They came up here, but they didn't take the spike.
[04:50:30] The smoke is going to run into them. They hit about the strike on a two to start things off.
[04:50:32] No immediate fall up the bushwack, only catching the ogre.
[04:50:37] Maybe they can pick off to call us, and they will get that much for it.
[04:50:43] Too defensive for my taste. I think they're way stronger there than it showed.
[04:50:48] If anything, I think that was a little bit of a risky push.
[04:50:52] For Peavision, if that spike goes wrong, or they get some good angles with the Monkey Kunkka.
[04:50:55] Yeah, they've got two different cores that an extra life is not that good against, right?
[04:51:03] You die and you come back, you're surrounded by Wukong's man, or maybe you're getting point-blank
[04:51:07] requiem, it's because you don't have a BKB yet on Satanic.
[04:51:12] That's where I think that opening existed.
[04:51:13] You will have BKB for the next fight.
[04:51:15] You might even have the Beastmaster 1, the Embers coming as well.
[04:51:18] It'll be a triple BKB lineup.
[04:51:19] The control goes out the window.
[04:51:21] You have nothing for the BKBs this game.
[04:51:23] You are you and if you're also going in chance with sags
[04:51:26] Or the little friends lock down. It's a very obnoxious spell for the ember. Yes
[04:51:32] Will you have a window to use it before ember has a vkb? That'll be the push
[04:51:36] I mean even if it means you just force him to use vkb, isn't that still good?
[04:51:40] It is still good and it could potentially do some serious damage with the peace creeps are around the target
[04:51:45] There's treants in this game too. It was socks. So he's gonna be slight change stop at the teepee
[04:51:49] Another pick-off for P-Vision.
[04:51:53] Yeah, next to it, like, do you think they see this as, well, like, we just have better late game,
[04:51:57] so we're not going to force any moves and potentially take bad fights when it's up to P-Vision to, you know, end the game?
[04:52:06] Like, I would say it feels more that they think that way than not.
[04:52:09] Whether that's true.
[04:52:11] Still to be determined.
[04:52:13] Now to E!
[04:52:14] Is he going to be able to shrink away out of this?
[04:52:17] He's surrounded by trance. He's not really getting away, but he's not dying either.
[04:52:23] And now, Satanic! Well, they're gonna jump out of Satanic!
[04:52:25] Satanic doesn't have everybody here!
[04:52:27] Nah, he's dead twice.
[04:52:28] He's dead! I mean, Wulgog's command, plus Rekowin, they're gonna boat on top, then they jump.
[04:52:33] Triple and four ultimates to kill Satanic.
[04:52:36] Gonna get the gals.
[04:52:37] Now to pull back on the night class as well. The supports, they didn't really leave their SF to die like this,
[04:52:41] but nothing, just added even more of the index at double for Wansi.
[04:52:45] And that's the two-play strength I'm talking about. Yeah, they don't have to be there. That's a huge component.
[04:52:48] The Ember was full pushing waves.
[04:52:50] But if you get on top of the Sphere, and before he has BKB, he's just gonna get melted twice.
[04:52:53] And that's the Monkey Matchup. Like, you drop the Wukong on him, you get stuck in the middle, he's absolutely done.
[04:52:58] There's no way to win that matchup, as Fiori on.
[04:53:01] It's almost like the Yandex lulled Satanic into this all-sense security, where like, oh, they're not gonna make any plays.
[04:53:09] That could be as aggressive as I want.
[04:53:11] You gotta respect when all five of these heroes get to hit the same target.
[04:53:16] It's an insane amount of firepower.
[04:53:18] You have that boat back up, they're going to be very tanky.
[04:53:20] The chance is going to cause you some issues this game.
[04:53:23] You don't have an easy way to bring Malady down on the front line, and he's going to
[04:53:26] continue to scale pretty nicely.
[04:53:27] It's an annoying game when you play all these right-clickers against the touchable, the
[04:53:32] max-heal.
[04:53:33] He already has shard, he already has aggs done.
[04:53:37] This aggs is really annoying.
[04:53:40] The very passive play from Yandex works out as they turn on the offense at just the right time.
[04:53:45] Get a good punish. Now let's see if they're able to snowball this a bit.
[04:53:49] Looking for another opportunity. Offense invisibility. They go for Tekala's, but the Ambersphere is right behind them.
[04:53:55] Doesn't matter. Too much damage, too quickly.
[04:53:58] Abusing this area of the map, but again, it's very hard for P-Vision to get into.
[04:54:02] They've got a good word. P-Vision, King the SF.
[04:54:06] But they don't really have a smoke or anything to make a play to that side of the map quickly.
[04:54:12] Get a nice deorder on that river as well.
[04:54:14] They're just swinging their way.
[04:54:16] Yeah, they're getting some good obsalids.
[04:54:18] Nice areas to play around.
[04:54:22] I do wonder when we're going to see the early gem from either side at this point.
[04:54:26] You've got to be getting close to that point if you're peeking, especially since you have an ogre.
[04:54:31] This is not the best hero at utilizing that worth, so just 5 gem and contribute that way.
[04:54:37] What do you need, Hand of Midas is so valuable.
[04:54:39] Oh, I don't think he's getting to the Hand of Midas here.
[04:54:44] Well, the wrath of the helm of the Overlord creep, it's getting worse, as these heroes
[04:54:54] like SF and Monkey King are able to hunt it down and kill it rather quickly, so you can
[04:54:58] lose some of that element if you're P-Vision.
[04:55:01] What elements are you going to gain soon though?
[04:55:04] We got some item pickups.
[04:55:06] Looks like Satanic wants to get a butterfly as his next item, which is fair enough.
[04:55:10] You have the AC and soon to be a BKB to be completed for noticed and no one just got
[04:55:15] his own BKB.
[04:55:18] So they've hit a timing of their own.
[04:55:20] Not enough that I feel confident taking a five on five, but that's not really this lineup
[04:55:24] for taking the first place, right?
[04:55:25] They want to split you up.
[04:55:27] Satanic, whoops.
[04:55:28] I think Chira Junior accidentally dropped down from the trees there, but pops away.
[04:55:32] They're gonna catch Malady on the other side.
[04:55:34] Watson pops out with a wreckwind, though.
[04:55:36] Oh, almost first down, notice, noticing alive off some of these heels, and now gets the turnaround roar.
[04:55:41] Watson's in trouble, no one.
[04:55:42] He's gonna finish him off, drops right on top of him, catches Malady as well.
[04:55:46] They're coming through the gate, but it's gonna be one by one for Yandex.
[04:55:49] And I think they're already making the read of the situation.
[04:55:51] Maybe this is something that's gonna start him to blast it down.
[04:55:54] Chira Junior, he was trying to get off a big Wukong's command.
[04:55:58] With the speed with which P-Vision brought this fight to Yandex, completely surprises them.
[04:56:05] DM will make the TP out, he's good, but he is the only survivor of that fight.
[04:56:11] It started out so well with the little friends on the Beastmaster that did so much damage,
[04:56:16] but they can't connect everybody there.
[04:56:18] They're too split on the map, the Kunkas in the upper jungle, there's two heroes going through the gate.
[04:56:22] P-Vision get fear faster, read the situation a little better than Yandex
[04:56:27] and able to take advantage of it, then you get nothing off of the lucky king.
[04:56:30] No BKB pop, he gets punched out from the tree with a blinding light straight to an overstudy.
[04:56:35] And you're looking at an even game or maybe even slightly Yandex favor and all of a sudden,
[04:56:40] P-Vision, they're looking at a lane of Barracks being here potentially.
[04:56:44] Now, the Kunkka is a problem as the heroes are coming back up, his catch is so much to ignore,
[04:56:50] And the range barracks does manage to stay alive all right
[04:56:53] It's something to salvage the situation early she was on DM does make it pretty strong if you semester a week clear
[04:56:59] You just can't get the team fight going. I
[04:57:01] Still think they're stronger and straight 505, but of course can't you get that exactly?
[04:57:06] You vision are very intelligent. You they're not just gonna give you that fight straight up
[04:57:10] It's always gonna be some rat action happening some summons making your life a point
[04:57:13] Once again, they're trying to hunt down the theory on that they caught it with a big KV
[04:57:16] I'm cool down for a couple of seconds they do so much magic damage that now that the BKB is up. It doesn't matter
[04:57:22] That's a big fine. He's very high level in this game. So he's gonna be dead for a long time every time you take him off the map
[04:57:28] I can shoot a minute to work with here
[04:57:30] You know, it's funny
[04:57:30] It's that exact play that failed earlier that left the opening for p vision to get the fight at top
[04:57:36] right the monkey King hoodwing trying to hunt down the fury on they kind of
[04:57:39] Watch the attempted gank and then carry on to be able to go top and take that big team fight.
[04:57:44] Well, this time, they just run it back and it works.
[04:57:46] And I think this is the area of the map that all of their good opportunities are coming.
[04:57:50] Sure. Yeah.
[04:57:51] Like, you really have to respect this lower jungle area against the enchantress,
[04:57:55] against the monkey king, how fast they can get in there, the vision advantage they're going to have.
[04:57:58] That is just not an area I want to farm with anybody outside of maybe Ember pushing out bottom
[04:58:03] or using some summons to do it.
[04:58:05] Kind of surprised that Tannock was that deep in there with his hero.
[04:58:09] Instant Roar on Cherokee, you're under and ob's on the cliff.
[04:58:13] Knock him down, all they have to do is keep him there
[04:58:16] with his VKB on cooldown from the earlier usage.
[04:58:19] Everybody's just dying in a slower jungle.
[04:58:20] Yeah.
[04:58:21] It is not a safe place to be, and no one wants in here.
[04:58:25] They are both making a move to top lane.
[04:58:26] It's gonna be Yule Scepter set up into the bush
[04:58:28] where the VKB does go off in time from no one.
[04:58:31] And now that they forced that, they make a run away.
[04:58:33] And they've got to run fast too,
[04:58:34] because VP vision is on their way.
[04:58:37] They're gonna catch Malady,
[04:58:38] And yeah, Dexter thinking, well, can we actually save him here?
[04:58:42] The sprint goes off, the Torrent's in the bush whack.
[04:58:44] It's enough to save him.
[04:58:45] So now he has a chance here.
[04:58:46] And if they push too far forward, look what
[04:58:49] Ross is sitting, ready to go with the requiem,
[04:58:52] and pop out with his freshly minted Daedalus.
[04:58:55] He hits hard.
[04:58:56] You got to shiv on top of that.
[04:58:57] Masked Rannis gives you the attack speed.
[04:59:00] You have that level 20 talent.
[04:59:02] There's some extra souls.
[04:59:04] He-Vision do not stumble into that.
[04:59:06] And now, Satanic is trying to set up a play for Roshan.
[04:59:08] Push in this bottom lane, and go for that top lane, Roche.
[04:59:12] They're missing the Ember BKB. This is an opening.
[04:59:15] You can root them with little friends.
[04:59:18] I end up push back on them. No one could potentially die with that item on cooldown.
[04:59:21] So again, they're gonna start the Roche, but not commit for it.
[04:59:23] That's not a fight you wanna take with some cooldowns missing.
[04:59:27] And very easy for the Andix to keep tabs of that area.
[04:59:31] Just torn inside the pit, or throw any chain to creep in there.
[04:59:35] There's certainly no way to be able to sneak this.
[04:59:39] Shiba's 4TM and he's going to go in an aggro interceptor next.
[04:59:43] So really just full tanking to tank 12 times first for the go hangar.
[04:59:49] It'll be nice over the long run of the fight.
[04:59:51] Not that good in the initial PKB exchange.
[04:59:53] Right.
[04:59:54] So you just gotta think about when you're throwing these spells out and how you're getting
[04:59:56] some value out of them.
[04:59:57] Protect your other two cores, create some space.
[05:00:04] Roche to be installed up for now, as the Ember VKB back online, he'll scout it back out,
[05:00:10] but division ready to fight. If the fight never comes, the Furion's cleaning up the map.
[05:00:16] So you're not in a rush here, you're not forced to make some sort of bad smoke. The
[05:00:20] onus is on the index a little bit more. I mean I would say the onus is on the index, but also,
[05:00:25] like Watson also saying it kind of seems comfortable if this stalls out a bit.
[05:00:30] If you get some BKB, like, how do they even interact with him on that first BKB team fight?
[05:00:36] He can get Rord. That is the biggest belt to potentially connect onto him with,
[05:00:40] and it's mainly Fury on right quick. So he gets Rord, say, Tana Keebs on top,
[05:00:44] just starts right-looking him down. Blublust gives you a lot of extra amp in this lineup.
[05:00:48] There's an AC already online. You have an inner B-Stora as well. A lot of extra attacks
[05:00:55] be going to it. A lot of units that can just kind of swarm you, overwhelm you.
[05:00:58] That's where this SF can die.
[05:01:02] And now we're back to a game of a single pick off, maybe leading to that Roshan.
[05:01:07] For either side, right, you've got the Amber Spirit sweeping through the map.
[05:01:10] The Monkey King is doing something similar.
[05:01:17] Magnum Scepter done for nine class, which is a very big pick up in these set areas like the Roshan pit.
[05:01:28] At least your junior goes back to farming here, you don't want to just sit there forever
[05:01:34] and steal me watching Satanic's net worth go up.
[05:01:39] Again, that's largely going to be DM and Malady's post to hold.
[05:01:44] Ooh, actually teleported right onto CJ there.
[05:01:47] CJ, I'm certain he could take that fight.
[05:01:51] There's your SFV committee.
[05:01:52] He's got his BKB, soon to be a basher on the Monkey King while Satanic is working on
[05:01:58] on a damage item here once a day list next.
[05:02:01] You could potentially also hold 5 back on the pyrrheum.
[05:02:04] You force the roach fight with 2 lives.
[05:02:07] Even if you get caught by some pyrrheum.
[05:02:09] He sees the monkey king going through the gate, but he didn't actually complete the gate.
[05:02:12] CJ baiting it a little bit. Now he's gonna back off.
[05:02:17] Again, no damage done.
[05:02:19] The monkey or the ember spear make a wrong move here.
[05:02:22] In their attempt to find a pick-off, get picked off instead.
[05:02:25] Yeah, exactly. Could it be the ones that try and force the Roshir a little bit?
[05:02:32] D.N. Got to brave the high ground, seeing how tanky he is.
[05:02:36] Lotus, moving that solar vine.
[05:02:38] They don't see this ward on the cliff.
[05:02:40] That's a dangerous ward.
[05:02:42] It's a very nice ward.
[05:02:44] Especially since it spots Chirr Jr.
[05:02:46] He gets slided and he's going to start backing off.
[05:02:48] You can potentially slight cut his tree.
[05:02:50] Yeah, you really have to be careful on these debobs.
[05:02:53] It's going to time out now.
[05:02:55] That is very good timing for Yandex that it naturally expires spots him gets to the quality plate
[05:03:00] That's the over talking about here now the will of us trying to force that DKB
[05:03:03] But he give him a bonus give him a force staff to ease perfectly fine another slight change on a bunch of heroes
[05:03:10] But the enchantress in first trying to gain some information how far is too far Malady. Oh, he's tanky. Yeah, he really is
[05:03:18] I cover him nicely, and this entire time, Fury Unn, is just buying a sign.
[05:03:25] If nothing really shows here, oooh, trying to sneak it?
[05:03:29] Trying to sneak it here, but again, there's too much vision.
[05:03:32] The Yandex has. He's stuck there though. You got a mana for it now.
[05:03:36] It's kind of awkward now, the Blishwack grabs him. Watson, challenging no one on the side.
[05:03:39] He's going to get the sharpshooter on to Satanic, and Roshan's out of here.
[05:03:42] Embersmear jumping right in the middle. They do manage to get the roar on to Watson.
[05:03:45] It's gonna be Watson fine here thinking about the Requiem but the entirety of P-Vision
[05:03:51] have backed away.
[05:03:52] This is no longer Hiroshan fight as it's gone to the other side.
[05:03:56] You can man up and do it here if you're in the index.
[05:03:58] P-Vision are missing a lot more than you are right now.
[05:04:01] No BKB carry on, no roar available, Ember out of remnants.
[05:04:05] And it's all though as well.
[05:04:07] You can just root on for this.
[05:04:08] They do have Flink.
[05:04:09] Notice he's looking for his time.
[05:04:10] He can go Zanpasta BKB.
[05:04:11] No it's Watson!
[05:04:12] No, it's watching to grab the Aegis and now the Wukong Shaman notice will not make it out alive and once they're in the pit
[05:04:18] There's no way out
[05:04:20] They're gonna lose Gem on top of a bad team fight and Roshan
[05:04:23] Even no one's sticking around a bit still gets whoo they're gonna hit him on the torrent
[05:04:27] They got the push back and they're sharp shooter to knock him down a double for the slim reaper
[05:04:34] They were so patient on that Roshan
[05:04:37] and
[05:04:39] Jumped first there was gonna end up losing the exchange there. It was a battle of patience
[05:04:44] Satanics kind of took the baby went in that pit. If he doesn't kill brooch fast enough before it starts to change sides
[05:04:50] You almost had to beat you beat the bush whack to try to fit there
[05:04:53] There's no way you make that call then you're left in a very bad situation with no war
[05:04:56] I don't think you can take this flight. You almost get the ages tonight
[05:05:01] But even if you snipe pages, yeah, you're not waiting this exchange. There's nothing for Satanic to keep me in here
[05:05:06] Yeah
[05:05:08] Power of the monkey and the SF around this bit
[05:05:11] Their lineup is really scary when they can just set up on that objective and force you into that
[05:05:15] That's kind of what they've been looking for all game
[05:05:18] I think the fact that they got that plus one the Ember kill like Ember and Furion
[05:05:22] They don't join that fight and they just push out waves right to big streak to someone got a lot of gold off of it as
[05:05:29] Sox so it gets an extra 800 for the a tree sir. He is very far. It's now agonist
[05:05:36] We've got Wind Waker build up for Soxa, who's got a level 3 sharpshooter.
[05:05:40] This game is scary for Pusion right now.
[05:05:43] Spotted on a ward.
[05:05:44] Satanic gets him, but of course Soxa has Scurry.
[05:05:48] You're just- there's no way you're confident in your theory on scaling hands.
[05:05:52] Monkey Hand SF in a vacuum.
[05:05:53] Yeah.
[05:05:54] Yeah, he has a little bit of help from a roar.
[05:05:56] You have a couple buffs.
[05:05:57] This Ember is gonna become a late game menace.
[05:06:00] But in terms of the physical man fighting power,
[05:06:02] Monkey has a frame supreme right now.
[05:06:04] So if you can keep them alive and just play around the Wukong
[05:06:08] There's it really gonna be an opening for the steering to take that fight
[05:06:10] You have to kite around these ultimates. You have to pick a really smart angle
[05:06:15] Satanic and Aegis and
[05:06:18] He's halfway there to 25. These are massive upgrades for the SF. Oh
[05:06:24] Like before you said, okay, you could still kind of all in the SF roar and Satanic just hits him down
[05:06:30] There goes that. There's no way they can operate off of that game plan now.
[05:06:35] It's up to P-Vision to outmaneuver Yandex, dodge this straight five on five to call this is going to be spotted by the monkey.
[05:06:42] See ya.
[05:06:44] Not getting out of that one.
[05:06:45] Don't forget, these are still more deso charges. He's ramping up at 18 now.
[05:06:50] Get some Necromancer, you get some Jingu.
[05:06:52] Yeah, get some deso.
[05:06:54] Got a deal with the top lane. It's going to be Rainsbearish finally dying.
[05:06:57] Pre-pressure, and they'll send the monkey back.
[05:07:01] Wow, and this little signal vacating bottom.
[05:07:04] You already have a hex on the Kunka too.
[05:07:06] That's a lot of extra control in here.
[05:07:09] Hex on the beast, so hex for both offlaners.
[05:07:11] Definitely helps your single target initiation.
[05:07:14] I just think you only have this fury out to get in there and deal the damage.
[05:07:18] There's so much pressure on Satanic, they basically have perfect team fights
[05:07:22] in order for P-Vision to win.
[05:07:25] Do you feel like 25s could solve some of these issues for P-Vision?
[05:07:30] Say the 25 on Ember's spirit, right, where it's just spamming out remnants helps.
[05:07:34] Like you have to find ways to pick up scale in your other two courses, game, if you're
[05:07:38] P-Vision.
[05:07:39] More consistent disabled, more ability to assassinate the backline.
[05:07:42] It's just a difficult backline to assassinate.
[05:07:45] Yeah.
[05:07:46] That's why Chancers has a great match against Ember.
[05:07:47] I think it's one of the supports that Ember just never really threatens, like you doing
[05:07:51] this remnant dash spam.
[05:07:53] You just sitting there with you.
[05:07:55] So what? Come at me.
[05:07:57] The hoodwink? Maybe you can assassinate this hoodwink, but even then he already has jewels.
[05:08:01] It's like a cat ban.
[05:08:03] The wind waker is such a cool choice. Such an early item.
[05:08:07] Oh yeah, it's great in this game.
[05:08:09] One of the best items against the V-Store that you can manage to get here.
[05:08:14] And again, you're just about protecting yourself, protecting your monkeying.
[05:08:17] If these two heroes are alive and hitting people, you're winning the fight.
[05:08:20] Okay, but what about the older scale?
[05:08:22] What about the ogre scale?
[05:08:26] Is there some secret hidden ogre scale I'm not aware of?
[05:08:30] We aren't in the ogre scale.
[05:08:33] We need the Midas.
[05:08:35] There's no way you could have gone with this game.
[05:08:38] But think about it for the 16-minute items. You can get those mad stones so quickly.
[05:08:42] I don't want to think about it.
[05:08:46] Will Yandex hit high ground? It seems as not to be with the Aegis anyway. They can still
[05:08:55] go for it, but Yandex have shown to be pretty patient in this game too.
[05:09:01] Oh yeah. We're concerned about their lack of aggression in some of these early games,
[05:09:05] but they just chill out and they put themselves in a winning spot here. The 2000 net worth
[05:09:11] the men not sound like much but against this kind of lineup it does mean a bit more.
[05:09:16] One of the most important things to notice is that you feel comfortable with your game plan.
[05:09:20] It doesn't have to be the theoretical best game plan that your lineup has, but as long as everyone's
[05:09:26] comfortable you know what you're playing for. If you believe in your scale sometimes you just
[05:09:30] scale harder you know because you see it. They're definitely seeing it here and I do think there is
[05:09:36] a lot of truth in that too. I think the scale is gonna come on quite nicely here because the monkey
[05:09:41] is so bad. Also the supports too right? I mean Malady can start turning. Oh yeah,
[05:09:45] he has so much gold, he almost has a hurricane pipe to be completed and it's
[05:09:50] a good enchantress game. They don't have an easy way to take him out. This is not
[05:09:54] a hero that the cores want to commit so much of their teamfight time to. And so
[05:09:58] you put him on the frontline every time he's gonna be a nuisance. Almost has
[05:10:01] 20 talent as well. You can get him a tank here if you want. Aggressive!
[05:10:05] Yeah, Linky was immediately smet by a roar, found the strike down, but no one
[05:10:09] That is committed as BKB to get their support kill, it doesn't happen fast, but they do get it.
[05:10:13] That was just a mystery, I think. They thought they were more split up than they were.
[05:10:17] Sure.
[05:10:18] Thought Ember, Spirit, and Furyon were out on the map, ranting and stuff, but...
[05:10:22] In which case, that's a fine way to start the fight. The peavish were just all there.
[05:10:27] Squirrel will bite the dust as...
[05:10:30] Little breathing room.
[05:10:32] Does give peavish an opportunity here.
[05:10:34] They push out a bit more on the map, take back their triangle,
[05:10:38] and may have an opportunity to keep these pick offs coming.
[05:10:41] It's 45 seconds still, the hood wings back up.
[05:10:43] You've got this blink sight on the Beast Masters,
[05:10:46] so they've got this spooky hard initiation.
[05:10:50] And the counter to that is supposed to be that wind wing.
[05:10:58] Satanic to Bobble, huh?
[05:11:00] Interesting.
[05:11:01] Okay, I'll show you some long-term plans here.
[05:11:04] Oh, certainly not gonna need the cooldown reduction, he's almost 25.
[05:11:10] That's what I'm saying, like, what are you looking to bobble with here on a Fury on?
[05:11:13] It's not... not the best bobble target.
[05:11:16] I guess you can infinitely bobble, audacious or something, though.
[05:11:23] Is that even a thing?
[05:11:25] Oh, and I feel like bobble possibilities are relatively unexplored.
[05:11:30] That's true.
[05:11:32] Quick Tormenter, so, P-Vision, do a pretty good job.
[05:11:37] One support pick-off, feels like they got a decent amount of gold off the map.
[05:11:41] Swept through large areas, took an objective.
[05:11:44] It's a 1k gold difference in this game, very even, but there's a large level advantage
[05:11:51] for Indexed in.
[05:11:53] Just the field again, feels like their cores are getting a little harder right now.
[05:11:56] They got to that SF-25, they're gonna get to the Monkey-25, two big talents in this game.
[05:12:01] Maybe the biggest.
[05:12:02] Yeah, they'll be able to leverage that or another Roshan has Wukong ring
[05:12:07] It's just how you go in Roche you park down this Wukong
[05:12:11] Who goes into that? Yeah. Yeah, who is gonna run into that thing that do anything in this game? It looks impossible
[05:12:21] Nullifier or DM's conca
[05:12:27] All control
[05:12:29] Or the two other damage dealers and they're just waiting for Roche. That's what it feels like. Yeah
[05:12:33] We're not the force anything we know how strong we are around that objective
[05:12:36] The way we end this game is with an aegis on one of the two big damage dealers
[05:12:39] Likely the Watson SF and then we can go high ground. So the onus is on you right now
[05:12:45] Key vision to make something happen this game disrupt the status quo
[05:12:48] One of the ways they might be able to do that around the Roche
[05:12:51] But I talked about earlier is just spamming buybacks into that objective
[05:12:54] Okay, yeah, you throw one Furion with life away on a Wukong he buys, he comes back and
[05:12:59] fights and wipes you.
[05:13:02] That is a way around some of these big ultimates a lot of times, right?
[05:13:05] And Satanic should definitely have the gold for it.
[05:13:07] I mean that's one of the things you play for with the laking Furion, because you just run
[05:13:10] out of item slots.
[05:13:11] It did take the Tread damage and HP by the way, so the split push from the Treads is
[05:13:16] going to be a little stronger with the 25 talent, which is nice.
[05:13:19] Again, if you can ever split Nandex up, that's another way to take a teamfight.
[05:13:22] I just think that is the less likely approach because we're at the point in the game where even if you were at that top
[05:13:28] We're axi-index. We're not gonna respond to it in the middle of a road fight, right?
[05:13:31] Don't give up some buildings to get the bigger objective here
[05:13:34] But those are some big tomatoes. Oh, they're gonna go MKB for the monkey king with level 25
[05:13:41] So the butter boy from C Tannock is a lot less effective and they're gonna hand with about the shrine fall up the abyss of play
[05:13:46] That's enough. They don't need many stuns. They missed the bushlock too. So that was
[05:13:51] really important you had the full
[05:13:52] missile there with the chain stunning
[05:13:54] and there's the overwhelming physical
[05:13:56] damage and the pick-off they need to
[05:13:58] very very confidently take that roast
[05:14:00] you have to be solo killed them yeah
[05:14:02] that's even scarier
[05:14:04] 2,500 damage I mean the contribution is
[05:14:07] whatever right you probably needed to
[05:14:10] get in there but that shows you how much
[05:14:12] DPS to your juniors doing in this game
[05:14:14] yeah in the future it could be to your
[05:14:15] junior sets up on no one and if he
[05:14:18] Wukong's commands and then balance
[05:14:20] strikes a misa-play, it's like they maybe
[05:14:22] really need to cancel. Oh for sure.
[05:14:24] He can 100-0 base anybody in this game with
[05:14:26] a preemptive loop pump. It's going to be
[05:14:28] harder to do, but...
[05:14:29] And that's a really big problem because it
[05:14:31] affects how much you're able to play the map, right?
[05:14:33] Like every single time the number of troops
[05:14:35] is out, he knows he's taking his life into
[05:14:37] his own hands.
[05:14:38] And here's a free roll shot off of that
[05:14:40] snipe. Amp damage in the river.
[05:14:42] It's going to make it super fast!
[05:14:44] No ability to react to this, there goes
[05:14:46] your potential to try and make something
[05:14:48] around that objective as you see the map position for P-Vision, it's very defensive and it's been defensive for some time.
[05:14:56] And you have to notice to literally backpacking his AC just to try and hide the aura to get some sort of opening in this game.
[05:15:02] Oh yeah, that's a cool play.
[05:15:04] You gotta do all the little things to try and salvage something here, but you do have 5 Vibax available right now.
[05:15:10] So there's a lot of extra gold sitting on these heroes, that's a pro anacond, right?
[05:15:14] Sure.
[05:15:15] Not as strong in the teamfight, but if it's a high ground situation you can abuse the extra lives, could come in handy.
[05:15:21] Or it means we're going to have a fresh round of items, which there's one of them, ScytheBice 4 and 9 class.
[05:15:26] They are going to have a lot of ScytheBices because notice is trying to double up on his with a refresher.
[05:15:31] Well, double up on the roar.
[05:15:33] Roar, Scythe, roar.
[05:15:35] That's a long time to be stunned.
[05:15:38] Get an oversight in this game.
[05:15:40] We multicast it, anything is possible.
[05:15:42] He also wants to site, but he's gonna be the slowest build up here for sure you call us is a
[05:15:47] You don't think over crying that it's worth you have level three multicast you don't think the minus
[05:15:52] Pays it was it's worth it. Yeah, I think he probably should have gone in when you recognize this game is gonna go really really long
[05:15:59] He probably regrets it now, you know, but well, I know I'm just saying what is it worth buying right now?
[05:16:04] Because level three multicast can pay it back so quick
[05:16:09] Honestly it probably is
[05:16:11] There's an argument if you can somehow get this hex and make it work instantly in a fight that the Midas is just slowing you down.
[05:16:18] I think the way you win this game is some ultra late game shenanigans and it has to get really weird.
[05:16:29] St. Tannock trying to give MKB to answer the butterfly on Watson.
[05:16:33] He has to be able to hit this SF because they are very much all in on the single target
[05:16:38] disables to lock down this SF and then St. Tannock to deliver the damage.
[05:16:44] And of course the high ground is still pretty scary here.
[05:16:47] You're going into unknown buyback territory.
[05:16:50] You only have the one Wukonga throw out.
[05:16:52] There's no refresher here for the monkey.
[05:16:54] You can park Watson on that high ground but it's good.
[05:16:57] Just get hexed and it's a burst damage.
[05:16:59] And then you're in a situation where do we take this fight with a Hex Death Staff?
[05:17:02] Are we leaping behind a Tier 3 into Bi-Bax with a Monkey King?
[05:17:07] It just looks really weird.
[05:17:08] At the same time, I think you'd want to force that fight.
[05:17:12] Like, you're not getting too much stronger on your two cores here.
[05:17:15] Yeah.
[05:17:16] So this is the time to make something happen.
[05:17:18] If either make some crazy smoke play, try and find a pick-off into the high ground like
[05:17:21] we saw the Ember die earlier.
[05:17:24] Try and bait P-Vision out of their base.
[05:17:26] You can manage that somehow.
[05:17:28] You can just drop a banner and make a slow siege it.
[05:17:33] Time's another option for sure.
[05:17:34] Watson hitting the tier three makes this a very fast siege.
[05:17:38] He's got the bonus attack range off alert.
[05:17:39] That definitely helps the high ground siege here.
[05:17:42] That plus the arching pike you could sit mega far back.
[05:17:45] Throw the potato up there.
[05:17:47] When it gets the ember, there's the potato revenge aura.
[05:17:49] There it is, yeah.
[05:17:50] One of the best spells in Dota.
[05:17:52] It's gone.
[05:17:55] Banner almost dead, but not quite.
[05:17:58] Continue in the salt now on to the barracks. This is where it's dangerous. Lots in braving that high ground
[05:18:03] They're gonna force that into the site and they try to get him out with a no fires place not doing these already dead already
[05:18:09] He does mention get away keep the interesting tack for now does not use this a tannic still has this bkb in his backpack
[05:18:15] So nothing lost there, but that was an interesting damage test
[05:18:19] They really showed the pee fish can kill him quickly
[05:18:21] That's why it's so scary. There's just so much chain hex potential and then you have to make a call if you're jumping deep or not
[05:18:26] They bailing out. No harm done, but you don't get that rax if there will never be a save, right?
[05:18:33] That is actually can be used against site device nullifier, right? They get him. He's not pkb
[05:18:38] You can't win weight. I can't force that. You have to just commit to the fight
[05:18:43] They do have a fresher sharp in that motion. They did give it to cheer junior. So you technically have double wukong here
[05:18:51] Again, this is kind of your timing to end the game right now
[05:18:53] Now, have a minute on this Aegis.
[05:18:56] The Hyrule doesn't get easier when this Aegis expires.
[05:18:59] That is for sure.
[05:19:00] Now the MKB is done for Watson.
[05:19:04] It gets to this Hygron fast enough to force
[05:19:07] P-Vision to fight into the Aegis.
[05:19:10] Will P-Vision get a quick execution on him?
[05:19:13] Or will they just give up the lane of Barracks
[05:19:15] in exchange for Aegis expiring?
[05:19:18] A whole lot of very important decisions
[05:19:20] to be made in this next 30 seconds,
[05:19:22] We're just going another round and wait for Roche and the thing is if you're not decisive something is gonna be pushing your toppling
[05:19:28] Yes, and you might lose a racks off of the indecision here
[05:19:33] Marches forward another aggressive force out head of the side and push
[05:19:36] That's gonna be that ages just a swap you could be in there's a one and a half second difference here
[05:19:41] We get text again thinking again another site initiation on him
[05:19:44] But if our staff he gets out they don't have another nullifier to stop those saves
[05:19:47] So better to wait for the nullifier to be back up.
[05:19:51] What do you do now? You committed another banner.
[05:19:53] Do you have catapults here?
[05:19:56] I mean, maybe it's time to drop the Wukongs.
[05:19:58] Maybe it's time to force Satanic into you.
[05:20:01] Give them a taste of your own medicine.
[05:20:02] You got to do something to break the formation here.
[05:20:05] It's really difficult for the monkey king to get close to this fight
[05:20:08] against the amber spirits.
[05:20:09] Just too dangerous.
[05:20:11] Oh, look at this.
[05:20:12] The creeps went tops.
[05:20:13] They immediately smoke off of this play,
[05:20:15] trying to catch some striders.
[05:20:17] That play is really hard to make work. You have to be very preemptive with it.
[05:20:20] You kind of have to pre-read when they're going to back up, and already be smoke wrapping as the
[05:20:24] first guy keeps top. Yeah, you do it too early. You run into five heroes. That's not what you
[05:20:30] wanted. Yes. You do it too late. Well, that's maybe a smoke potentially wasted, as in this case,
[05:20:34] the Andix do manage to retreat fast enough and make a smoke play of their own. Now, behind the
[05:20:38] tier two, nine-class going to break Willowis. Breaking the trees. That's the danger of this
[05:20:42] This monkey came first, these heroes can't commit it in a good ways to break out the trees and it just allows them to retreat.
[05:20:49] All space for the ogre magi farming up.
[05:20:53] That's right, that's right, getting closer and closer to that site.
[05:20:57] You imagine he gets a multicast four staff multicast site device.
[05:21:02] Alright, you're getting ahead of yourself. That's like, that's a real ogre pectrine.
[05:21:05] Oh, god, I'm on the bowless bash and a pistol blade!
[05:21:09] He's dead!
[05:21:10] Nice flight from Chira Jr.
[05:21:13] My god!
[05:21:14] Another huge fight in this game.
[05:21:16] He does have highback available, but you're going to get a lot of out control of this, which might be more valuable.
[05:21:21] Yeah, notice is pushed out the bottom lane enough somebody's going to have to deal with it, but the death timers are so long, it's easy.
[05:21:28] To deal with the pressure of the lanes, do you force the high ground?
[05:21:33] You got it, right?
[05:21:35] It's either you do it during Roshan or you do it during heroes being dead and force my backs.
[05:21:40] Man, what a bash. That's just...
[05:21:43] From the hand up Gabe himself delivered.
[05:21:49] Yep, bots too on the Kunkka, so he's done the blades to join.
[05:21:53] Trying to get a repressive force staff into the base here with the Willow West turning around.
[05:21:56] He's just dying!
[05:21:57] Turn back, he's just dead!
[05:21:58] What?
[05:21:59] And then Rekwim doesn't cover him, they do manage to force out Satanic here.
[05:22:02] Satanic here, Satanic pops to BKB, and now it's a man fight between Watson and Satanic,
[05:22:06] and they're not winning it easy with the numbers advantage that P-Vision have.
[05:22:09] They've got to feel comfortable with this.
[05:22:11] They've got still a Satanic to be used on Watson.
[05:22:13] He's just used now, but he needs to use BKB otherwise his side device, he might just die.
[05:22:17] Winwick is going to be popped.
[05:22:19] His, uh, Satanic is almost caught, and even as he pops to BKB, he can't get in the line,
[05:22:22] sealed down.
[05:22:23] P-Vision, kick off one after another, a third to die.
[05:22:26] And just like that, P-Vision back in the driver's seat.
[05:22:31] If you go high ground again, at this point you have to just jump them.
[05:22:34] You can't slow siege this. There's too many hexes, too much control.
[05:22:39] This monkey king got obliterated at long range.
[05:22:43] From Satanic, just get laying in with the right clicks.
[05:22:47] He has so much attack range himself.
[05:22:50] Texas, these four staffs, they're deadly on the high ground siege.
[05:22:54] Early buy, Valady.
[05:22:56] It's gonna be the first to pop the buybacks here, but there's certainly more to come as all of these lanes, all three of them are being pushed in.
[05:23:06] You're gonna need some cores up to defend otherwise.
[05:23:09] Got to the ogre, actually.
[05:23:11] You got it!
[05:23:12] I cannot believe you got here.
[05:23:16] You need to...
[05:23:17] Trance are hitting tier 3s, Beastmaster creeps are hitting the melee barracks top.
[05:23:23] Another 14 seconds till the Monkey King's back up.
[05:23:26] DM.
[05:23:28] His axe will pull him out of range here, but it's still the building down.
[05:23:32] The first plane of rax going to P-Vision here.
[05:23:36] Off some sick high ground defense execution.
[05:23:39] The Monkey's back up, but they will not retreat.
[05:23:41] And now it's 20 seconds till the SF.
[05:23:44] Trying to hold off.
[05:23:46] Another tier 3 is going to fall here.
[05:23:47] Soxa.
[05:23:48] Tiki Fantage.
[05:23:49] of the slight retreat there from P-Vision tries to grab C-Tanig before they can get away.
[05:23:55] They're out. They're just using items better.
[05:23:58] They're getting more value out of this forced ad-hacks itemization.
[05:24:01] They need index to have gotten out of all of their overwhelming firepower.
[05:24:05] It feels as if they need more Lincoln's Lotus as something.
[05:24:09] Just prevent that initial go, or you just jump and start the fight on your terms.
[05:24:12] Like you just eat yourself and drop a Wukong stun in Sticky Givi and don't allow these
[05:24:17] allow these hexes to have that advantage that they're having right now, but you got
[05:24:21] to have some sort of game plan. Because look at the committal, no one's even
[05:24:24] committed in this fight. Like they're poking you, you're getting sprouted, you're
[05:24:27] getting changed, you're getting solar bound. There's a willow that's pulling you back in.
[05:24:31] All of a sudden the second you're hexed, Satanic commits the long-range
[05:24:34] right clicks. There isn't a clear turn around opening these fights.
[05:24:39] Well let's see what Yandex learned from that. Is it never go high ground or is
[05:24:45] What's it going to be the better item usage?
[05:24:47] We do have the Lincolns being built by Malady.
[05:24:49] He recognized the problem that they have.
[05:24:51] He also has just hit level 25 off another round of wisdom.
[05:24:54] So he's got extra impetus damage.
[05:24:56] Same goes with Soxa, with the sharpshooter.
[05:24:59] So they certainly have their own burst damage.
[05:25:01] The problem has just been finding the initiation,
[05:25:04] which is hard to get when you're the one
[05:25:05] sitting on the low ground.
[05:25:08] I like the Lincolns.
[05:25:09] Again, recognizing the situation.
[05:25:11] I think it will come down to, can you start a fight on your terms?
[05:25:17] Can you get this Wukong placed down on top of some heroes, stun some people up and pop
[05:25:21] BKBs and get the job done?
[05:25:23] Not only can you afford the left key vision to continue to play the poke game here.
[05:25:29] Their long range poke is really causing you issues.
[05:25:32] You don't have a good response to it.
[05:25:37] It's top lane, it's such a nuisance.
[05:25:46] It means the Conker just has to sit up here until the fight starts.
[05:25:51] It's really obnoxious that E-index can't have him on that front line with the hex.
[05:25:58] Yeah, it's just not nearly as easy for him to connect with this because he's not there
[05:26:02] at the start.
[05:26:03] Someone has to deal with the wave pressure in this game.
[05:26:04] Still the cheese though of some big loads this year.
[05:26:07] Sustained to play around with there's the beast refresher so, you have the roar, hex
[05:26:12] roar, you have the coddle hex, you have the potential multicast hex.
[05:26:16] That's just so ridiculous.
[05:26:18] They really are outside the vice, man.
[05:26:20] And I think my favorite part about this is, this is a discussion, a decision that was
[05:26:25] made like 20 minutes ago.
[05:26:26] Oh yeah, right?
[05:26:27] Oh yeah.
[05:26:28] Got a plan for it.
[05:26:29] Ogre was working on this for a while.
[05:26:30] We're on the back foot and they saw their way. They saw this game was going late
[05:26:35] How do we itemize in order to give ourselves a chance to win these late game fights?
[05:26:42] Mass-synthesized it is
[05:26:45] It's the sign of an elite team
[05:26:47] Your ability to itemize yourself out of the hole out of the situation
[05:26:51] Call for the solution these this late game is not easy going into all this SF monkey scale
[05:26:56] You really have to have a good idea of how you're going to play the fights and how you're going to use your network to mitigate their physical advantage.
[05:27:03] So you have to do exactly that.
[05:27:04] To defend your high ground, it's a whole nother to take a team fight.
[05:27:07] That is absolutely a map.
[05:27:08] In the potential five action.
[05:27:09] He tried to be in a change and got out on the multi-kate.
[05:27:11] He's going to fight for now.
[05:27:12] They can't control it though.
[05:27:13] He got off his BKB.
[05:27:14] Wolfgang's turning around the roar.
[05:27:15] Placed on the SF.
[05:27:16] The SF is dying.
[05:27:17] And from a distance, Static won't push him down.
[05:27:20] Now with the SF gone, bring it back in for the Dino Wave.
[05:27:24] What a play from DM showing up big there being able to get two different pick offs and now no one has to pop
[05:27:30] This BKB off an a on disc pop gems on the ground
[05:27:33] Maldi will grab one of them two of them in his inventory a third left to the ground
[05:27:40] Honestly, not the worst exchange for Yandex yet. You lose your SM
[05:27:43] But you get double support buyback as they commit him instantly to go for this Rochon
[05:27:47] Then you have sick title wave from DM pulling you back into this Wukong
[05:27:51] You really have to maximize the Wukong value in this game. He does have a refresher shard. This is a Roche you can contest
[05:27:57] You can commit the SF5 act for it
[05:28:00] Get another Wukong. It requires the monkey king to be in a position though. It's very tough
[05:28:05] It's nemesis has been 9 class with this Willowiz. He can't hop into these trees and get close to the pit easily
[05:28:12] Right there they stop him from being pulled off of the cliff
[05:28:16] It's not quite enough time for P-Vision to take this Roshan clean.
[05:28:19] In fact, Satanic is almost in here. Has to pop a Satanic, and it's BKB Refresh there.
[05:28:23] No one. He gets out with his remnants off the refresher.
[05:28:26] Meanwhile, DM...
[05:28:28] Ooh, that was a big chunk of damage there. Satanic's still hitting pretty hard.
[05:28:31] Even against the tanky Kunkan. Roshan, this time...
[05:28:34] It's... It's Roshan leaving the pit to go top again.
[05:28:38] While Manny's under assault from dreams right now, they have those all...
[05:28:40] A full lane of barracks right now.
[05:28:42] I can't believe they didn't buy the SSF, and I also can't believe the P-Vision didn't
[05:28:48] force that fight a little bit more trying to get the SFI.
[05:28:51] Now they're trying to kill Roshan as it's walking across the map, but it's uncontested.
[05:28:55] The slight change holding him down, Roshan's going to die in the middle of the map.
[05:29:00] The spoils of war will go to P-Vision.
[05:29:05] That's successful Roshan in the end.
[05:29:09] But now the turn of p-vision
[05:29:12] You have the advantage you've got the extra life are you willing to go high ground with it?
[05:29:21] I think you have to try and set it to some degree you could do it with some slip push pressure though
[05:29:26] You have a bit more tools at your disposal and how you take this fight particularly with Texas
[05:29:30] You can kind of set the fear on he's hitting the tower
[05:29:33] If the index are forced to commit a little bit unless you can force that title wave came in we could see a similar situation
[05:29:39] But you can also park summons on one lane, start hitting the other, see what develops out of that,
[05:29:44] and you always have that theory on five-acc to come into an aggressive push.
[05:29:47] 60-minute items he committed for the enchanter's bobble is going to continue to bobble,
[05:29:53] went for the vault, 40 primary attributes, and maybe could have by a divine rapier soon.
[05:29:58] The smoke in the top lane doesn't work initially for P-Vision.
[05:30:02] You gotta remember this evolved as different on Universal Heroes. He gets to 24 across the board,
[05:30:07] So there's technically more overall stats for a universal hero, and he's bobbling it.
[05:30:14] That's a lot of stats.
[05:30:15] Yeah.
[05:30:16] Kind of insane.
[05:30:17] We'll see if that Divine Rapier comes out regali at least for the SF while up his damage.
[05:30:22] You did not get the Stygian on the monkey though.
[05:30:24] There's no way you're taking much of the dead over Stygian here if you're a cheery or a
[05:30:27] junior.
[05:30:28] So a bad roll for him.
[05:30:31] We'll see what else.
[05:30:34] Beastmaster, Harmonizer, Stitching Desolator, Book of the Dead is what I assume he wants to take.
[05:30:40] Though he hasn't made that decision quite yet.
[05:30:42] The book is pretty nice here, that Stitching in is also pretty nice just you getting hits in for everybody else, but he'll take the book.
[05:30:49] Too good individually on him, you're also adding to the lane, the map pressure here, you have so many summons on the map.
[05:30:55] Well somebody's gonna take that Stitching, it's gonna be Malady.
[05:30:58] with 115 extra movement speed he's cruising around and with his impotence he's taking pretty damn hard
[05:31:06] the thing is you rather have the Stygian on the monkey than the book on the enchanters for the
[05:31:10] Rapplerouser right of course pure damaged nuke bag so it's kind of sad for yandex that they got it
[05:31:16] on the opposite heroes here you get it a little bit at least in the end as satanic has just run
[05:31:23] out of item slots. Too much gold for his own good. Still has almost 9,000 gold used, flies
[05:31:32] a swift link into his backpack, and I was at the side when he wants to play with beer.
[05:31:36] It's just got, it's funny because like, the Hurricane Pike and Spiel felt like a very
[05:31:42] important item that extra attack range to hit the SF without being hit back, right? Don't
[05:31:47] let the SF get the opportunity to swing with the Satanic. We haven't seen Watson pull that
[05:31:51] out of a single time yet in these fights.
[05:31:56] Got the Roar on tier 2 now.
[05:31:57] All in on him.
[05:31:58] Everything that they had to kill this Monkey King and down he goes.
[05:32:02] And now the extra heroes, they push out.
[05:32:03] Watson has to turn around, starts swinging out the Ember spear.
[05:32:06] But they go for Soxa with the nullifier.
[05:32:07] They're going to take him down easy and refresh.
[05:32:09] Now what keeps it going?
[05:32:10] Reckling's going to hit him, but the Alts is going to protect him and he gets off a BKB,
[05:32:14] jumps over them and away he goes.
[05:32:17] A very clean couple of kills there with Monkey King.
[05:32:19] And C-Tanig actually went for Watson to hit him on the side of the vise, stomping Watson during his C-Tanig time.
[05:32:24] He saw his BKB to be able to work with.
[05:32:25] Woodcock's man in for the side, went for the Beastmaster, got him inside the Woodcock's man,
[05:32:29] and inside with the pistol play, he's gonna fall.
[05:32:31] Two dead, now another, aside the vise, pushed back on the Ember, to the end of damage,
[05:32:35] and finished him off before he jumped away through his remnants.
[05:32:37] He doesn't have anything up, he's gonna die.
[05:32:39] C-Tanig's in for that!
[05:32:41] A massive pick up for Yandex, as that was a must win play with Vibex being utilized.
[05:32:47] They had to get a teamfight victory in, but they are a long ways away from victory because now they're the ones who have to force the buybacks out of P vision.
[05:32:56] And you still lost a lane of racks. There's just no way to keep your base alive in any sort of engagement when there's so many creeps going for the rat action.
[05:33:04] However, you have a window here. You have a window to potentially win this game if you can win one more teamfight.
[05:33:11] teamfight and you still have Dora Frencher-Sharp for Chira Jr. He never ended up using it because he never got that initial
[05:33:17] root-con off. Some courier slaps going out as well.
[05:33:21] You could full send it here.
[05:33:23] You have an SF5 to play with.
[05:33:24] Tier 3's straight to the Tier 4's. Is that going to be the idea here for Yandex? Not quite.
[05:33:29] They're going to play it a little bit slower here leading off Philippine, pulling back into the Ogre Magi.
[05:33:33] There goes one of those side devices that's down for two minutes as the single target disabled start getting picked up one after another.
[05:33:40] Watson's game is made easier and easier.
[05:33:43] Mality on the front lines,
[05:33:44] seeming untouchable at this point.
[05:33:47] And no one there's a hook on.
[05:33:48] There goes the Wilcox man.
[05:33:49] The Andrew Spirits got to get out of this A&W.
[05:33:51] If he does manage to do so,
[05:33:52] but that leaves the Tier 4 exposed.
[05:33:54] Yes, another one.
[05:33:55] Michael Leif is going to be popped.
[05:33:56] A refresh used.
[05:33:57] Another round.
[05:33:58] Trying to go for the roar.
[05:33:59] Doesn't manage to get through the link.
[05:34:00] It's placed onto Watson.
[05:34:01] Tier 4 is a drop in fast.
[05:34:03] Mality's going to drop float here.
[05:34:05] No one.
[05:34:05] No one fired.
[05:34:06] Placed onto him.
[05:34:06] Requiem goes out.
[05:34:07] Still though.
[05:34:08] Mality gets burned through.
[05:34:09] Watch your fours down.
[05:34:09] You got it over the fall.
[05:34:11] This is time for some sort of defense to be put up.
[05:34:13] They've got to go in now with no clip.
[05:34:15] There's something to stop watch.
[05:34:16] And he pops the BKB, goes all in.
[05:34:19] They get the game three.
[05:34:21] Jandex.
[05:34:23] They were struggling to be able to close out this game two.
[05:34:26] And for a moment, they looked like it slipped
[05:34:28] through their fingers.
[05:34:30] But in the end, they put the pieces together.
[05:34:34] And managed to close out game two.
[05:34:36] we're gonna see a third game series in this playoffs.
[05:34:40] They clutch it up.
[05:34:41] That game was a 50-50 going down the stretch,
[05:34:45] less than a 1,000 goal difference at the 65-minute mark.
[05:34:51] And they find a way to win that last team fight
[05:34:53] that they needed.
[05:34:54] The whole game is just building to that moment
[05:34:56] because there's no way you're gonna get a fair fight.
[05:34:58] There's no way you're gonna get a fight
[05:34:59] where you don't have to use some aggressive buybacks
[05:35:01] and get something out of the exchange,
[05:35:02] run it down and win the second fight off of that.
[05:35:05] They help that refresher for the monkey that entire time.
[05:35:08] He's able to use it to bury him for double Wukong
[05:35:10] all in the throne with just forces, you know,
[05:35:12] really raw spot.
[05:35:13] I think he had to go even sooner at that point.
[05:35:16] Yeah, if they recognize that,
[05:35:17] but there's just no clear opening if that Wukong's down.
[05:35:19] The fearing cannot engage into it.
[05:35:20] We saw how fast they can it dies.
[05:35:22] It is a bad matchup.
[05:35:24] There's no way around it in the actual man fight.
[05:35:26] So beautiful execution in like that 40 to 60 minute period
[05:35:30] with the sight of ice spam preventing the high ground
[05:35:32] pushes, like, that was executed very well.
[05:35:36] And it gave you a chance to win this game,
[05:35:38] winning that last Roshan.
[05:35:39] But that fight in mid lane, where these two cores
[05:35:42] are just able to stand their ground,
[05:35:44] like, you get the monkey pick, but then the SF just sits there,
[05:35:47] and he's the anchor in the teamfight,
[05:35:48] and you can't kill him.
[05:35:50] There's two big problems to solve this game,
[05:35:52] and you are never able to take them both off the field
[05:35:54] at the same time.
[05:35:56] I think my favorite part about this game
[05:35:58] is the way that Yandex closed it out.
[05:36:00] You know, if you were talking about, okay,
[05:36:02] Maybe they're being a little bit too passive.
[05:36:03] It still works for them.
[05:36:05] The game almost slips through their fingers.
[05:36:06] It could have been time to play scare, right?
[05:36:08] It could have been going,
[05:36:09] oh guys, maybe we can't actually take this.
[05:36:12] Last time we went high ground, it didn't work for us,
[05:36:14] but they sent it.
[05:36:15] They went out, leaned on that play.
[05:36:16] They get the pick-offs on the initial heroes.
[05:36:18] They make the call to just commit to the throne
[05:36:20] and they pull it off in a big, big way.
[05:36:23] We're going to a game three.
[05:36:26] You could see the happiness there as well.
[05:36:29] Team YannXS, they push this series
[05:36:31] to a game three.
[05:36:33] This series is so close that all the advantages
[05:36:38] that we see coming out for the teams, they're so small,
[05:36:41] but they mean so much, Effie.
[05:36:44] That was an insanely high-skilled game.
[05:36:47] That was such a treat and pleasure to watch
[05:36:48] because it did feel like it added up
[05:36:50] to a lot of the small things,
[05:36:51] but as that game progressed,
[05:36:53] and we went to the ultra late game,
[05:36:54] the problem of the Luco's arena from CJ
[05:36:57] was just too big of an obstacle.
[05:37:00] A lot of the fights felt like, are we addressing this monkey?
[05:37:02] Can we do, are we starting the fight by knocking him off a tree?
[05:37:04] Are we able to roar him?
[05:37:05] Because if not, you have this huge arena after that level 25 talent and the fight is split up.
[05:37:10] You can't really commit on the Shadow Fiend because you can't step into the Wukong's
[05:37:14] and SF just gets to go to town.
[05:37:16] Yeah, on top of that, you have both.
[05:37:18] You have Hex, you have the control that DM did bring to the table.
[05:37:21] I really loved his itemization in this one.
[05:37:23] Like opted to go for more like,
[05:37:25] kind of control build where he is like first-time Lotus picked up the wraps
[05:37:30] I don't think he got too much value out of that one but later on picking up the
[05:37:35] Sheva's picking up the Hex as well which was the big pickup kind of on the
[05:37:38] both sides actually and we did expect this series to be very even and it
[05:37:44] definitely was like you really didn't know who's gonna win up until the last
[05:37:47] seconds pretty much and I love the killer instinct that did the kind of kick
[05:37:51] in for the other team because like they they were losing they were about to be
[05:37:54] you know, not knocked out they would still play for that third place, but not a chance to play in
[05:37:59] the grand finals tomorrow and definitely showed up. They're like, yeah, we got to do this, the
[05:38:04] Wukong's command, the double Wukong's command, making sure that Shadowfinn is going to be getting
[05:38:08] the right clicks in. Yeah, they really clawed themselves back into this game because if they,
[05:38:14] if this game would have dragged out longer, eventually, Satanic would have been able to
[05:38:18] take down all the racks and it was just, the map was closing in on that. It really was and if we
[05:38:24] If we look at the tier 5 neutral items that dropped, there is double Syrians on the Undux,
[05:38:28] so the Divine Regalia on SF.
[05:38:30] So the amount of physical damage output towards that late game portion of the fight was ridiculous.
[05:38:35] We saw SF was, like, two-shotting everybody, including Satanic Snature's Prophet,
[05:38:39] and they couldn't really get the same kind of damage output there, Lacoste.
[05:38:42] Yeah, I think what, like, happens after 60 minutes,
[05:38:46] if the kind of game is stabilizing, you don't necessarily need to pick up your neutral item.
[05:38:51] You're waiting until you see what enemies did go for so you see this enchanter's bubble twice and you're like
[05:38:57] Okay, we're gonna give it a go. We're gonna go into the fight have divine regalia have our increased damage coming up from the
[05:39:03] Shadow thing we have double this so on top of that
[05:39:05] So we're gonna be bringing in that extra bit of a damage and then again malady
[05:39:09] Dude did this guy just place differently like we've seen him again going for the scaling bill going for this aggra and center
[05:39:15] Which is super annoying
[05:39:16] This is the undispellable route and it also allows you to scale so well into the late game
[05:39:21] Like he was a real menace to deal with they didn't really have the answer for him
[05:39:24] Yeah, I'm so glad you brought him up because outside of that late game chaos and beauty that we witnessed
[05:39:29] They got so much value out of Malady's Enchantress in that mid game because there was a moment where it looked like
[05:39:35] Keyvision might have the tempo and might run them over
[05:39:38] But they use Malady's body very effectively as a means to soak ganks and smokes and there was this one moment where they
[05:39:44] they overcommitted on Enchantress, couldn't take him down,
[05:39:47] and then Yandex were back in the game
[05:39:49] because they were able to kill Seitan.
[05:39:50] Yeah, we've seen so many clutch plays,
[05:39:52] like we've seen so many aggressive four-staffs
[05:39:55] coming up from nine-class, like the Hexes,
[05:39:57] the Hex, the Beastmaster picked up,
[05:39:59] the Malafires, well, pushing them inside their own base,
[05:40:02] plus also multiple times in this game,
[05:40:04] like they're cutting down his tree,
[05:40:05] they're blasting them with the blinding light
[05:40:07] off of the trees, and CJ,
[05:40:08] he really didn't have that good of a time,
[05:40:10] like at the, because he was dominated,
[05:40:13] He was so far ahead, but he got shut down.
[05:40:15] I feel like they understood that it's the Lembergspin.
[05:40:18] He can come back into the game, and he definitely did,
[05:40:21] but in the end, it's just that it came down
[05:40:24] to one big fight in the mid lane.
[05:40:26] And I think that is the fight you would like to show us.
[05:40:29] I think it's the one before it,
[05:40:31] because it's going to come down to Roche fights in general.
[05:40:35] Like we've seen, particularly this fight,
[05:40:37] where we are seeing P-Vision, who are going for Roche on,
[05:40:41] But the Roshan started to migrate and they already used quite a lot of things here
[05:40:46] They still have BKB on Beastmaster, but they don't have Roar. They don't have Satanic with the BKB
[05:40:51] So Roshan, he's gonna drop very very low. You could already see that Beastmaster
[05:40:55] He made a slot available to potentially pick it up and then another Wukong's like and you still have Wukong's command
[05:41:02] You still have right clicks from Shadowfinn, something you talked about if it's very difficult to approach
[05:41:06] because of the overwhelming damage of synergy between these two heroes and
[05:41:09] then in the end DM he catches them with the blind torrents and that's gonna be
[05:41:13] four dead for P-Vision because at this point of the game they were kind of
[05:41:17] ahead with this ages potentially they would definitely go for the high ground
[05:41:22] plant a banner and potentially try to end the game but this very clutch play
[05:41:26] coming up from then definitely turned it around. Yeah the riptides from DM went
[05:41:30] crazy too and not clipped his shadows he was able to catch some people back there
[05:41:33] There's also a moment where they dropped CJ's Wukong, which we talked about being the key
[05:41:37] part of the fight.
[05:41:38] Can T-Vision kite the Wukong?
[05:41:40] Can they fight into it or can they catch up the Monkey King?
[05:41:42] There's a moment where they actually ran away from it, but DM just pulls two of them back
[05:41:45] and it's the one fight off the fight.
[05:41:47] We know that this series is close and that both teams are very good and that's why it
[05:41:52] is close.
[05:41:53] But my question is, why did this game last so long?
[05:41:58] Was it also that close in the draft or was there one portion in particular that, for
[05:42:02] For example, you guys would like to see a Dress for my other team going into game number
[05:42:06] three because I'm enjoying this, but I'm sure the teams would like to have games end a little
[05:42:11] sooner and like to be a little bit more dominant with it.
[05:42:15] I mean, I think both of those drafts are very strong and that's why we got such a nail
[05:42:18] bider and close game.
[05:42:20] And honestly, that's the type of game that you look at if you're P-Vision, I suppose,
[05:42:24] and if you're going to nitpick one thing, it would be the moment that you chased Enchantress
[05:42:28] into her jungle and you couldn't kill her and then Yandex swiped you so it's more of like
[05:42:33] um we maybe messed up our consideration of how to deal with this hero but I wouldn't want to see
[05:42:38] either team change anything. Yeah most definitely like the map rating was so good in this game
[05:42:43] that's why these teams are on top of their game at the moment because they can expect
[05:42:47] to where the enemy is gonna strike and that Enchantress bait that you talked about that
[05:42:51] was top tier from them kind of the turnaround point as well there were many in this game because
[05:42:55] the game was so even and we've seen some clutch plays as well where did like the fights happening
[05:43:00] in the mid lane or in the triangle they're sending out some treants they're sending out the helm of
[05:43:04] the dominated creep from beast master to kill off the barracks in the mid lane as well so kind of
[05:43:10] punching in two different directions but in the end it was it came down to i'd say
[05:43:15] tier five neutral items they chose the right ones and they decided to end the game it's a it's a
[05:43:20] little decisions that you make in a game like this that will win you the game. I think we saw
[05:43:27] Watson on the Shadow Fiend. I think maybe Dash will be no longer possible because he was shut down
[05:43:32] earlier on, but he was still able to be the Shadow Fiend that the team wanted.
[05:43:38] Yeah, it was a more quiet game like one of the quieter ones we've seen from a Shadow Fiend,
[05:43:41] especially the winning ones, where most of the time you see Shadow Fiend go like 15-0,
[05:43:45] They're all over the place. We've seen Nightfall having good great performance with as well where they completely dominated the games
[05:43:52] But he got rotated on like in some of these early engagements
[05:43:54] So he was the one that was getting the trade they were trading satanic early on for the kill on Shadowfin
[05:43:59] And then later on he also dies one more time
[05:44:02] So he had a bit of a slower game monkey king was the one who was trying to set the tempo and he also got punished because a lot
[05:44:08] Of the times like you would see them again China outnumber trying to find a way because they knew exactly that
[05:44:14] that desotiming, it's gonna come, and as soon as he got it, he tried to play aggressive twice,
[05:44:18] he got punished for it, so it's gonna come down again, as we said before the series started,
[05:44:23] to the smallest things, smallest details, because they're really pushing the limits.
[05:44:27] But I've much, much enjoyed CJ's Monkey King versus the Slaughter in-game, as a response to the
[05:44:33] Ember, because the response to the Ember in that game one felt too weak, whereas in this game two,
[05:44:37] you know, you go deeper into your pockets, bust out heroes, but maybe other teams aren't playing,
[05:44:42] And I think they should stick to that approach if we're going to see Ember live through in Game 3.
[05:44:46] You feel that this is enough to now remove the Ember from the series?
[05:44:50] Or do you think that Jannex is like, okay, you know, we countered it, or at least we won versus it?
[05:44:56] You're going to have it again.
[05:44:57] Not necessarily. I mean, I think no one's very happy to keep playing Ember Spirit if they keep giving it to him.
[05:45:03] And if there's like no Huskar or something scary that you have to think about.
[05:45:07] I think every single game that I've seen Ember's spirit where he's playing into losing matchup where that's gonna be
[05:45:13] Haskar, Necrophos, anything that's gonna ruin him in the first five to ten minutes
[05:45:18] The hero still recovers pretty decently, but we are seeing him pulling the creepways to the other camps getting something done on the map
[05:45:25] So one of the reasons why this hero is such a powerhouse so far at EWC
[05:45:30] And I feel like if they leave it in the pool
[05:45:32] there's a high chance that no one wants to play it again because he's definitely feeling him like
[05:45:36] he's definitely feeling himself on this ember spirit and he's done quite a lot of work how big
[05:45:41] of a difference that first pick second pick make to this series we feel this second game it was
[05:45:48] young next that one and they had second pick in this game did they yeah they they had the
[05:45:55] 25 pick on monkey king and i i do think that was the difference maker because let's say they
[05:45:59] didn't have that overall last pick to counter Ember and they had just gone for a typical
[05:46:03] pucker starter. I don't think we would have seen that game go that far because
[05:46:07] the landing stage would have been easier for Key Vision.
[05:46:10] Yeah, and of course, game one, it was also a team that had second pick that came out
[05:46:14] victorious, so we'll have to wait and see who gets that leg up in game number three.
[05:46:19] Game number three, of course, coming your way very soon. Before that though,
[05:46:23] we're going to find out how DM felt before the series even began.
[05:46:29] Play is in our DNA.
[05:46:34] Whenever we let it out, it becomes our superpower.
[05:46:41] Now imagine an entire city being built to supercharge it.
[05:46:46] Kdea City, powered by play.
[05:46:53] Hello, I'm here with DM from E-index.
[05:46:55] You guys knocked out Team Spirit yesterday, 2-0.
[05:46:57] I was curious how close...
[05:46:59] It was not yesterday, it was my mistake.
[05:47:02] How did that series feel? Did it feel close?
[05:47:05] It felt like a series against a great team, which two spheres are.
[05:47:08] So it wasn't easy, but it was not like ultra complicated also.
[05:47:14] The game was kind of in our control, both games, so it felt fine.
[05:47:18] So you didn't play yesterday, obviously.
[05:47:21] What did you do in that time instead?
[05:47:23] We'll play some pops and we'll just scrim some decent teams, I mean one decent team, so yeah, we just prepared a little bit for today, that's all.
[05:47:31] I was curious what scrimming is like at this stage in the tournament, because I feel like teams that get eliminated, they probably go home partially, so they can't play you guys.
[05:47:38] What do you do for scrim partners?
[05:47:40] We'll scrim the team which is playing right now on the stage, so it was a decent team.
[05:47:43] Pop this aside, other bracket? That makes sense, that's a good way to do it.
[05:47:47] You guys are top 4 now, P-Vision looks really strong, they're definitely one of the best teams left in the tournament.
[05:47:52] So how do you think you're gonna do?
[05:47:54] I mean, we're just gonna do our best and we'll see how it goes. There's nothing to like predict
[05:47:59] But you're gonna try to draft well, just play well
[05:48:02] Do our basics and see how it goes. It's always say a great team
[05:48:06] So ain't gonna be hard ain't gonna be easy. I mean, yeah
[05:48:09] Do you think that there's any drafts advantages that you have like strategy advantages better hero pool for you versus them or anything like that?
[05:48:16] To be honest, I have no idea because I'm not like main restaurant team. So I mean
[05:48:22] I just hope we're gonna do a decent one. So yeah, yeah, I hope the games will be fun to watch
[05:48:26] Thank you for joining me. Good luck in your matches. Thank you. Have a great day
[05:48:31] Hello ladies gentlemen, I am here with teamie index the future champions of EWC is that correct?
[05:48:37] Maybe maybe
[05:48:39] Yes, are you more confident in the UNO game than your Dota?
[05:48:43] Yes, it's easy. It's easy. Who is your biggest nemesis in Dota 2 right now? I don't know. I
[05:48:48] I don't have this team.
[05:48:50] You're just a nice guy?
[05:48:51] Yeah.
[05:48:52] You just want to beat everybody equally?
[05:48:54] Yeah.
[05:48:55] Is this true for you?
[05:48:57] Yes, never very good.
[05:48:59] You're also a nice guy?
[05:49:00] Yes.
[05:49:01] Is everybody on your team a nice guy?
[05:49:03] Of course.
[05:49:04] That's never true.
[05:49:05] I've been on teams.
[05:49:06] I know this isn't true.
[05:49:07] Name a name.
[05:49:08] Trust.
[05:49:09] Everyone is good.
[05:49:10] Maybe he's a bit...
[05:49:12] Is this true?
[05:49:14] Maybe.
[05:49:15] Are you afraid of Soxa because he's so tall?
[05:49:17] Afraid is not the correct word. I would say we respect Soxa.
[05:49:21] Respect him? Why do you respect him?
[05:49:23] He helped us improve, and he is experienced.
[05:49:26] Do you think you could defeat Soxa in a one-on-one physical altercation?
[05:49:31] Yeah, probably. If he would be without limbs, maybe I have a chance.
[05:49:36] Could you defeat him in one-view, one-combat?
[05:49:37] With weapons.
[05:49:39] I'll give you a weapon and him none.
[05:49:42] Sure.
[05:49:43] So if I have spear, then he's a really tall guy though.
[05:49:48] But spear is like very long.
[05:49:50] Is it difficult to play with Soxa?
[05:49:52] Because when you guys are all talking to each other, he's like up here and you can't
[05:49:56] hear what you're saying?
[05:49:57] Yes.
[05:49:58] The Grand Semi-Finals continues with the Andex MP vision on stage.
[05:50:19] Our first game 3 of the playoffs coming your way is 1-1 and this series is incredibly close.
[05:50:27] the tiniest of things could be the difference maker in making it to the Grand Finals or
[05:50:34] having to play in a third, fourth place decider, which to be honest, for both teams, being
[05:50:40] top four, being top three, would be a disappointment if these teams are here to win the whole thing.
[05:50:46] Yeah, I mean, it's wild to think one of them will probably end up winning that third, fourth
[05:50:52] place decider.
[05:50:53] I mean, I can't see them losing, to be honest,
[05:50:56] but this to me feels like a grand finals in and of itself.
[05:50:59] That second game really showed us what it looks like
[05:51:01] when two evenly matched teams go up against each other
[05:51:04] and they shouldn't think ahead.
[05:51:07] Just focus on now,
[05:51:08] who cares about the third, fourth place tomorrow?
[05:51:10] Well, let's focus on now because the draft is upon us.
[05:51:14] We got P-Vision on the radiant side,
[05:51:16] Yandex on the dire side.
[05:51:17] That seems to be the way they prefer things
[05:51:20] because that's been the same the whole series.
[05:51:23] First pick, Ghost B vision, second pick, and overall last pick there for Ghost Wave Yandex,
[05:51:29] which is the repeat of what we had in game two.
[05:51:33] In terms of drafting though, we have already got some changes on the board.
[05:51:36] Shadowfiend got removed from the pool.
[05:51:39] We left Largo in because of that, but there's changes all across the board
[05:51:43] because Willow and Dawnbreaker all still in.
[05:51:46] Yeah, Largo is one that was just being bound for the team that could potentially pick Darkseer.
[05:51:51] So I don't think it's going to be in contention unless the need for a disavowal comes through like a one-ranger play.
[05:51:59] Yeah, I could definitely see that.
[05:52:01] I'm also looking at this nature's profit ban.
[05:52:04] It caused them quite a lot of issues because they in a lot of these fights, you would see him outranging Shadowfiend where Shadowfiend was not actually hitting him.
[05:52:14] He's stuck in the sprout and he's dishing out the damage.
[05:52:17] And this time around the vision will pick up in Voker like we are seeing the switcheroo
[05:52:22] What is the appeal?
[05:52:23] Yep, absolutely because you know it was banned in the second game
[05:52:26] They would probably be a very good at Voker game, especially with the conca pairing
[05:52:30] They decided to ban it in the last phase, but this time around straight up opening with invoker
[05:52:34] So some of the heroes I would say from the position 4 slash 5 are gonna be getting
[05:52:40] especially more priority. I would like Bane, I think Bane definitely has to go
[05:52:46] from Team Yandex because it is Bane plus Invoker setup, it's also Bane against
[05:52:51] Bango which could be very difficult matchup for him. This is really different
[05:52:57] out of P-Vision. To me this says that they're thinking about how Yandex can
[05:53:02] enable CJ and how different the game looked when he had a lane and this is
[05:53:06] one of the CJ heroes that you can early pick Lickium and to the Lacoste you
[05:53:09] wanted them to look for an early pick in Voker. So I think this overall first in
[05:53:12] Voker would not happen against any other team but Yandex. Yeah, most definitely
[05:53:17] this is not something that is just a matchup knowing like that there is a
[05:53:22] very mean in Voker player on the other side and Pango like we haven't seen too
[05:53:27] much of a Pango like during the group stage they here was kind of silent it
[05:53:31] did get slightly more priority once we got to the survival stage and in the
[05:53:35] playoff still showing that this hero is a menace to deal with it's really good
[05:53:39] against invoker as well especially if you can snag up a keeper of the light for
[05:53:43] yourself on yandex you're super happy because invoker like historically
[05:53:47] struggles against pango and lane because his waves get shoved out and when he
[05:53:51] hits that level six he just has a bkb right with his rolling thunder so he
[05:53:54] just runs at you with a plus one support rotation and invoker is very
[05:53:58] vulnerable to this yeah heavy focus on supports for the next pick phase and
[05:54:03] And that's also why we're probably going to see you having focused on supports on this
[05:54:06] bandface with already the Hootwing removed from the pool, Keeper of the Lightbane, the
[05:54:11] two most feared ones still in and of course the Willow still in.
[05:54:14] Shever, listen to this, carry Invoker position one.
[05:54:17] No, I think he said don't think that we're going to see that.
[05:54:22] Yeah, I was just being sarcastic.
[05:54:23] I don't think I want to see it for the rest of the tournament.
[05:54:25] What a way to go out though.
[05:54:27] Yeah, with a whimper.
[05:54:30] Sam.
[05:54:31] Anyway.
[05:54:32] I'm dying removed which is a strong one for Jannex as well so
[05:54:37] Understandably so that they remove that let's see which one is the one that Jannex wants to remove keep in mind
[05:54:42] They can pick right out of this phase so they can ban a support and also pick one
[05:54:47] Yeah, they could potentially like take the vain for themselves
[05:54:50] This is a team that doesn't really play Wyvern
[05:54:53] I would also like look into that hero for pay vision potentially in the second pick phase because it gives you something to deal with
[05:55:00] Pango during the rolling thunder. It's a super strong laner. It secures the lane for
[05:55:05] for almost said invoker in the carry roll. I think this is what you do. You just ban ban
[05:55:09] you pick keeper of the lake, you enable your pango and you take away their best support to set up
[05:55:14] sun strikes. Very strong here from Yandex. Yeah. In clockwork still in a pool, this is the hero
[05:55:21] that also sets up the sun strike play as well. From position four, nine class, his hero pool
[05:55:26] doesn't really do it as much. Dark Willow is like, okay-ish. I'm maybe looking more towards like
[05:55:34] Shadow Shaman and things, but I just have this in my mind. A couple of games where he played
[05:55:38] Shadow Shaman and he really didn't have that good time. This is also not a BB team, so probably
[05:55:44] Shadow Shaman is not going to get as much priority. Do you not like the Earth Spirit anymore for
[05:55:49] Nintas? Or because it's no longer a flex because we already have the Invoker unless Invokers don't
[05:55:55] don't care, but he's not.
[05:55:56] Because it's no longer a flex.
[05:55:58] Yeah, I would prefer if they have the flex potential,
[05:56:00] where you pick it early on and still have, you know,
[05:56:02] slightly bigger picture, what's happening in the draft.
[05:56:05] Yeah, the thing about Earth Spirit
[05:56:06] is the strength of Earth Spirit comes
[05:56:08] for a p-vision from the ES plus Dark Seer duo.
[05:56:11] And if Dark Seer is addressed within the first phase of Bands,
[05:56:14] then you can't really introduce your flex anyway.
[05:56:16] So having it be a mid-Earth Spirit
[05:56:18] would also lead to the Slardars from CJ,
[05:56:20] which is not a good matchup.
[05:56:23] They'll get the Winter Wyvern for now instead.
[05:56:26] Yeah, the hero that we mentioned for a good reason, this hero just gives you pretty much
[05:56:30] everything, gives you teamfight, gives you setup for another round of spells later on,
[05:56:35] gives you fight reset.
[05:56:36] Very good against Bango because all his spells are physical damage and then you can just
[05:56:41] split the fight and you can save whoever gets initiated on.
[05:56:44] Well there's a hero that's still in the pool, that lone druid, that's what I was gonna say.
[05:56:51] So, are we happy seeing the London Druid here?
[05:56:54] We know Intervival is considered to be one of the support counters.
[05:56:59] So they took that one already out of the equation as well.
[05:57:01] We've seen London Druid be very dominant earlier on today.
[05:57:05] Yeah, I mean, London Druid is always a hero you have to worry about, but Yandex are the
[05:57:10] one team in this tournament that have led it through four times in a row and beat it
[05:57:13] every single time.
[05:57:14] So they have the most experience playing against London Druid and they could bust out their
[05:57:19] carry lina even if they feel like it's a good pick for it because it just addresses the
[05:57:23] laundry problem.
[05:57:24] They'll just beat laundry four times, they beat it four times in a row.
[05:57:28] This is pretty much the statement, we're going to leave it in the pool and you have
[05:57:33] option to pick it and if you do pick it, we have the answers for it.
[05:57:37] Let's see if the lina will come out two picks coming out.
[05:57:43] I'd like to see maybe Enigma coming out for you for Yandex. It's a very good hero in the lane because you're not winning the lane in straight-up trading against Laundruid, especially if there's Winter Wyvern.
[05:57:55] It just feels like it's very, very difficult to play any type of a lane. But like some of the other heroes that they have used against it was...
[05:58:04] Beast Master as well as a good team.
[05:58:06] Yeah, Beast like Centaur, but these Centaur is gone already. I'm leaning towards Enigma.
[05:58:12] They get the jacquero for now, jacquero has made a big splash towards the end of the group stages
[05:58:19] but it's been a little while since we've seen him here on the main stage.
[05:58:22] It's very good, like when you think about some old school counters to
[05:58:27] let's say Shadow Demon when he's met up with the defensive disruptions,
[05:58:31] defensive winter weapon abilities, ice pad is a very nice follow-up onto that, plus you also
[05:58:36] have an insane amount of magic damage that you can throw onto the guy who is getting healed
[05:58:41] and also super strong laner like we've seen as you said she ever this hero getting slightly more
[05:58:45] popularity it was Aurora who brought it back and it looked very very good it looked like
[05:58:50] again an OP hero in the lane with the right partner killing the hero from 100 to 0.
[05:58:56] Yeah I think this looks like a really good jikirogum for the reasons you mentioned
[05:59:00] but if pango is getting countered by the physical damage counter of Wyvern then you just secure it
[05:59:05] with easy magical damage, and Jakira provides that. DM's enigma does come out, and we know
[05:59:11] we already have the carry, we already have the mid, there's not going to be a lane counter for this.
[05:59:18] And we'll see where P-Vision wants to go with their pick. This is also the time where they
[05:59:23] should be thinking about what Watson will play as the overall last pick that Jannex will get,
[05:59:30] And that Lena is still looking pretty nice, so I would imagine maybe that will be worthy of a ban.
[05:59:38] We got the axe pick up for now. I would like an axe coming out here.
[05:59:42] Yeah, this is pre-emptive axe, something like it's a Sunstrike setup, so you can always go for a play.
[05:59:47] I think they needed a hero that's going to be front-lining for them, somebody to start a fight,
[05:59:51] because other heroes want to keep the distance, so big fan of this.
[05:59:55] You don't see the matchup, but the axe can always get something out of the lane,
[05:59:59] so definitely feels good on 18.
[06:00:03] Yeah, I think it's also kind of a pick that discourages from heroes like Kez.
[06:00:08] Because if you look at Yandex's draft, they've got a lot of ranged heroes.
[06:00:11] They've got the Jekiro, the Kotl, the Enigma, and they would have needed a melee carry
[06:00:15] to play with the hero into lane, and Axe is very much an anti melee carry type of hero.
[06:00:21] So it removes the potential of Kez.
[06:00:23] And sure, you can pick something like Alina carry now to play into the Axe,
[06:00:26] but then you've just got one Pango starting the fights for you every single time.
[06:00:34] For now they remove the Tiny. We see the Rubik being removed on the side of Yandex.
[06:00:38] We are still looking for Hero for 9 class on the side of P-Vision unless there's some
[06:00:43] strange gelatinous going on, but not expecting that for the moment.
[06:00:48] We got the Necrophos also removed from the pool by P-Vision, so Watson can't play that one either.
[06:00:56] I'm thinking if there's a hero because you need to think about like multiple different
[06:01:02] things with this last pick.
[06:01:04] You are playing against PKB piercing ability, multiple PKB piercing abilities, you're playing
[06:01:08] against the Lone Druid matchup, you're playing against something that stops your physical
[06:01:12] damage from going through.
[06:01:14] So not the easiest way to find a hero, I would be okay maybe with like Phantom Lancer
[06:01:21] that could come out for them, but it's also not a 24p, also it doesn't feel as strong
[06:01:25] because you are giving them ways to counter it so...
[06:01:31] I mean...
[06:01:31] Oh, it is 24%?
[06:01:32] It is, yeah. I mean, he tries to play PL wherever he can and I think it would still be a very strong PL game.
[06:01:37] The only issue is if the snowball starts from P vision and your PL isn't ready,
[06:01:42] you're just gonna get run at non-stop.
[06:01:44] But Watson has picked PL in situations where there was an enemy snowball available and it still worked out for him.
[06:01:51] We'll see what he goes for. There's still half a minute left for them to think about it.
[06:01:54] The Windranger came out near instantly for P-Vision, so that will be their position 4,
[06:02:02] unless they want to run in Voker in 4. Nah, crazy.
[06:02:07] Just a nice range support, something to play with the axe. You're going to have that added
[06:02:11] bit of disable from the Shackle, and it'll make your lane much easier.
[06:02:16] Then Windranger plus axe is a rough lane, even if you have Jekiro.
[06:02:19] Yep.
[06:02:19] Let's see what the little lane against still the Phantom comes out and it's a that's why
[06:02:26] I mentioned it I see these heroes it looks very good it's very good in the lane against
[06:02:31] axe because of the battle hunger you're not really getting affected by it by any means
[06:02:37] and you know this is a game where it really matters so you're going to be diving in deep
[06:02:42] I already talked about like four other encounters that they have something that needs to be done
[06:02:47] about the last pick which is not an easy pick and this is where the teams like the more experienced
[06:02:52] teams are going to be digging deeper into the hero pool and finding something that
[06:02:56] can work out for them. They have a pango cauldron, the combination is going to be insane throughout
[06:03:03] the whole game of course it's very annoying to play against. They have enigma, there is counter
[06:03:08] to enigma in this one because like you have a sun strike, you have a cataclysm, you have axe call
[06:03:14] maybe on the edge you have winter scars and waves of stuff in the black hole so it's not the
[06:03:19] easiest enigma game by any means but the m is also going to be getting stuff out of the lane which
[06:03:24] I really like because after seeing byvern plus londroid this lane is literally unplayable
[06:03:29] what are we thinking if we have closest distrust uh to me it seems quite even again in terms of the
[06:03:35] power of each draft I do think that if p vision win their lanes then yandex are in a tough situation
[06:03:42] But I do like this pango versus invoker so that lane should be fine
[06:03:45] I think PL's lane should be okay as well
[06:03:47] And if they can come out of the lanes decently dodge a few bad fights
[06:03:51] Then it is PL's game 2 in here. It is overall scaling in favor of the PL here if this game goes late
[06:03:58] Yeah, much as much
[06:04:01] And we have seen this game go late game 2 was an example of that it was very back and forth very close
[06:04:08] this time around, very different drafts coming our way Lacoste.
[06:04:13] Yeah, this is what's kind of expected.
[06:04:15] This is what we were talking about as well.
[06:04:17] So you are going to be getting different heroes.
[06:04:19] This is the guy that has been in Dota scene for 25 years.
[06:04:23] So he's seen everything, like every possible matchup,
[06:04:26] everything that has been changed.
[06:04:28] He has been through this.
[06:04:29] He has been winning the tournaments.
[06:04:31] He has been through pretty much everything possible
[06:04:33] that could happen in Dota, did happen to him.
[06:04:35] happened in Dota and did happen to him. So having that experience behind him, seeing the potential draft that could work out for them in this game where it really matters, so not really surprised that we've seen teams go for completely different matchups, like completely different heroes.
[06:04:49] With that being said, there is an overall first pick in Voker, which is unusual and a little bit spicy, so that is the big question here.
[06:04:57] Will no one be able to shine on us in Voker? Will P-Vision claim their spot in the Grand Finals or will it be Yandex?
[06:05:04] We're finding out. Cap and SVG, over to you.
[06:05:07] Going into this series, neither team had truly been tested.
[06:05:11] Both of them have only lost a single game and the group stage easily washed away by their quite superior scores coming out of it.
[06:05:19] Going into playoffs they managed to get easy 2-0's, but finally, in one of the highest skilled games we've seen all year this game too,
[06:05:26] We did see both teams truly get pushed to the brink there.
[06:05:30] Yandex came out the better for it, but it only gets them to this game three.
[06:05:34] They'll all be settled here.
[06:05:35] We'll make it to the grand finals.
[06:05:37] Yandex versus Peavision already starting off with a bit of early action here as Zoxa
[06:05:42] found right next to the tier one tower at a Sun Strike that could have delivered the kill
[06:05:46] over to the mid laner of no one, but instead goes to the carry.
[06:05:51] Satanic. He will always take the gold if it's available. Can't last hit this kid.
[06:05:56] And so start with Lone Druid and some heroes coming out in this game 3 that I expected to see in this series.
[06:06:02] The Invoker, the Enigma, the PL as that last pick, some spicy clutch picks that have a lot of scaling power behind.
[06:06:11] That's what strikes me this game. Like this is not a game
[06:06:13] I think either team is expecting to run over. So you're looking to get some of these heroes that are gonna quietly
[06:06:18] scale into that late game with some backup and try and put the pressure on
[06:06:21] you in those late game teamfights. The PL could be a big problem in this game but
[06:06:25] I do think between Invoker and Axe plus two stunning supports you have ways to
[06:06:30] kind of catch him and just fall in him and I think the bear can cause some
[06:06:34] heroes issues that forces the PL to respond and you can maybe play around
[06:06:38] that around the map. Like there's a lot of global pick-off potential if this
[06:06:42] Axe call or Shackle Lance in the Sun Strike into a bear that pops out from
[06:06:45] in biz it can just surprise you and kill anybody in this game that's something
[06:06:49] the index are gonna have to think about but if it does go ultralink I mean
[06:06:52] there's just so much chaos that's you play between Ida lawns caudal blasts
[06:06:57] jacquero spells there's a pango rolling in that you have to deal with and then
[06:07:00] there's banimal answer illusions running amok incredibly toxic line up on
[06:07:05] I would not want to play against this hand it's like it's like one of those
[06:07:08] lineups you've seen a probing like come on dude really like this is what you guys
[06:07:11] are playing you know why you so try hard this is such a try hard trap
[06:07:14] We'll see who worked out for this is a here that got back to
[06:07:19] This fatal answer that I feel it's not a crush
[06:07:21] But it's like how do we get out of this weird draft position will last appeal and just put it all on the line
[06:07:27] Hope wants to carry us on one of the signature heroes and time and time again. He's proven that he can
[06:07:32] So we'll see if it gets him into the grand finals here to the highest win-win heroes here at EWC
[06:07:37] The family answer especially having five wins and only the single loss
[06:07:41] At this tournament, definitely a little bit more of a cheesy pickup.
[06:07:45] I mean, Lone Druid is also a very cheesy hero.
[06:07:47] Oh, for sure.
[06:07:48] The hero that everybody knows is incredibly good right now.
[06:07:51] Do you think that it was worth giving this Lone Druid opportunity to P-Vision?
[06:07:56] Do you feel like they answered it appropriately enough?
[06:07:59] Or who's on a timer here?
[06:08:02] Do you- I assume Phantom Lancer is fine to go late game against Lone Druid, but I don't really know?
[06:08:07] I don't think late game is very broad, I think it'll come down to execution.
[06:08:10] they both have a lot of scale in the tank. I think the PL is one big factor, like in theory he scales super hard here,
[06:08:17] but at a certain point I can also see him falling off like ultra ultra late against his trifor if they get really big,
[06:08:22] and I think the black hole is always an X factor, right? You have a Wyvern curse cancel,
[06:08:25] you have a call cancel, because the AOE gets kind of big now,
[06:08:29] but the black hole is always leaking through it. I do think they have good answers to the long drew.
[06:08:32] Like this is not a game where they gave it away and he's gonna have a free game.
[06:08:35] The Solar Binds annoying, the Chikiro spells are annoying, and they got their big lane counter for DM in this enigma.
[06:08:41] This has been the matchup that they favored the most. They're making away the loanjured.
[06:08:44] They want the enigma on this lane, but the idle-off pressure going in.
[06:08:47] The entangle on him. That's going to be some bonus damage here.
[06:08:49] The pressure of the Sun Strike does LON at the final hit. Not enough, fairy fire will save the day.
[06:08:54] Getting pressured out early though. This is what you want from the loanjured, and some extra sustain for the Wyvern definitely helps the bear fight through some of the summons.
[06:09:01] This Enigma gets to level 3 and 5 when contested. He's gonna kick you out of lane. He's gonna win this lane.
[06:09:06] He's gonna dominate your tower. Very strong start for Satanic. And a matchup that the Enix felt was gonna go a lot better for them.
[06:09:13] Like, we have four last hits on this Enigma. He just got forced into the jungle to try and get to the level 3.
[06:09:18] So you have a first bloodblown drew with Free Farm down here, kicking out the counter matchup.
[06:09:23] Got to win it elsewhere, but this other side lane, the trade-off of supports perhaps,
[06:09:28] Knight class is going to get low, Watson off the call, couldn't finish the job, both
[06:09:32] notice, and Knight class will be low off of that, but he can't really keep it going.
[06:09:36] Strong start for the Axe, too.
[06:09:38] Quad Gottlet into a straight ring of help, you have these sun strikes to play with off
[06:09:42] of every early call.
[06:09:44] He's mega tanky up here, he's mega fat already, and this is a lane that Axe wins.
[06:09:48] You can't really win this lane as Pia, so there's no way around it, you try and limit
[06:09:52] the damage you get your own farm. It's not the worst matchup in the game anymore, but
[06:09:57] notice should be having a very good time in the first 15-20 minutes here.
[06:10:00] Well, the upside of this early laning phase for Yandex will be the mid-lane matchup because
[06:10:04] Jared Jr. is really taking it to no one here. 11's and I's, 22 CS, has done very well for
[06:10:10] himself and even harassing no one quite a bit. Keeping him farther back, but of course
[06:10:15] that can all be kind of undone if no one keeps getting funneled Sunstrike kills, which, well,
[06:10:20] He hasn't gotten one yet, he has assisted.
[06:10:22] Still a good matchup in the game too.
[06:10:24] I've been impressed by how much this Pango's been able to put pressure on Invoker in the
[06:10:27] mid.
[06:10:28] Commit the early roll, just start running in him.
[06:10:29] Early glyph use, trying to kick him out here from being able to get the last hit on these
[06:10:33] range creep.
[06:10:34] He's got to keep him liverying in.
[06:10:35] He's got to swashbuckle, should be able to get away from a lot of damage, especially
[06:10:39] if no one's getting so low.
[06:10:41] Cold embrace to help, but it also means he's going to miss CCS while that happens.
[06:10:45] Meanwhile Top Lane, notice he does manage to get that kill, Watson is able to get the
[06:10:49] return though. Nice experience for the Phantom Lancer up here, not too sad with that exchange
[06:10:55] you can bring out some items on the Jekiro. Watson's so low though. Between a power shot
[06:10:59] and a sun strike you gotta bring him. So bring him something. Salve, yeah. Salve drop, bring
[06:11:04] it back. We'll end up being fine. Pretty long mana but as long as PL is farming you don't
[06:11:09] really care about anything else. Be curious to see what 9 class goes on that winranger
[06:11:12] because this pick was like, I think you could have picked 9 class any hero there. Your draft
[06:11:16] kind of had everything it needed to function. So it was what, you know, what spicy pick
[06:11:21] does he want to play there? And they busted off the winter ranger, maybe for some more
[06:11:24] long range poke off of some of these stuns. Maybe they just wanted another stun in general.
[06:11:30] But it's not a hero I'm used to seeing him play or post out when he has his choice. Sox
[06:11:35] is sneaking around behind the invoker, could not get in a position to get a landing light
[06:11:40] push into cheer junior. A lot of pressure right now, though, with this catapult, we've
[06:11:44] mid the invoker's only level five and you have this Chalker magic behind the
[06:11:47] pango such a deadly combination. Oh yeah. Get the very low cooldown swashbuckle,
[06:11:52] very low cooldown shield crash combined with him having the opportunity for
[06:11:57] rolling thundering hasn't leveled it up yet. Gotta bring both supports here to
[06:12:01] defend this push. And what if DM cuts over too? Could be nice. He's kind of in the
[06:12:07] area farming up the Vitalons right now. The RuneSpawn bottom though, that means
[06:12:11] Those church juniors are gonna have to spend a lot of time getting this. They're gonna lose their way of under tower.
[06:12:15] Don't think at the power room, but that push moment with the catapult will be defended here.
[06:12:21] Yeah, I'm just trying to cut the lane. This tells you how poorly that LD lane went.
[06:12:25] Yeah.
[06:12:26] This is not a lane you want to go cutting with the enigma on. This is the lane you want to be pressuring the bear.
[06:12:32] It does put him in a position to always be able to farm up Neutros as well.
[06:12:36] If he can hold to it, but also depends.
[06:12:38] He's also in a position to get ganked here, is to call us and slow them down, see Tanaka's run over, but Cheer Jr. is the better of the two mid murals right now, so his presence kind of, kind of scary.
[06:12:47] Sunstrike lands on a Malady who's taken the man fight against Night Class, and we'll lose that fight.
[06:12:55] Key vision coming out strong in this G3.
[06:12:58] Two side lanes are absolutely cooking here. It's only this mid that the Enix have to play around.
[06:13:03] Cheer Junior is so strong right now, Keen.
[06:13:05] Is he gonna level up Rolling Thunder to take this wisdom shrine?
[06:13:08] No, I don't think you can go in there on your own.
[06:13:10] That's fair.
[06:13:12] Get some forward spirit action though.
[06:13:13] V-Law, you gotta deal with the bear.
[06:13:15] Very fun game.
[06:13:18] Almost killing it.
[06:13:21] Cold embrace will spare it from ticking out.
[06:13:24] Call Sunstrike, top lane, Watson gets dunked! What a combo!
[06:13:28] He snuck that with one in out of nowhere on Watson.
[06:13:32] Just Axe rounding the corner, catching him on the call,
[06:13:35] and then Sunshine Dump can just wrap its succession.
[06:13:39] And we're going to see a couple more of these at least this game.
[06:13:41] The call is just so deadly.
[06:13:43] Because you're going to get a call into guaranteed Sunshine
[06:13:45] until a power shot into some vibrant spells.
[06:13:48] Like, there's so much follow-up on every Axe play in this game.
[06:13:51] There's going to be a problem around the map,
[06:13:54] especially if the bear can get a fast Silver Edge online
[06:13:56] and he's contributing to map pressure and something right around the...
[06:13:58] This is where the map can just become really difficult to play,
[06:14:00] Which to me has been the theme of the series. It's like how do you get the lanes out without dying and how do you threaten the enemy cores?
[06:14:05] Right when they're trying to get the lanes in.
[06:14:09] Enigma will still kick these heroes out of here. That is how powerful the idolons are with the drum.
[06:14:13] Meanwhile, you combine that with Shira Jr. also rotating out of terrain. There's no way for them to fight this.
[06:14:18] So we'll be an early tower advantage. It's looking like for the Andex.
[06:14:22] That'll help offset the gold leap that P-Vision currently has off of winning their side lanes.
[06:14:27] See how much damage they can get done on the map.
[06:14:32] Widya and Nygma being able to run in enemy areas in this pango.
[06:14:35] Should have a pretty nice timing on the diffusal and then shock a magic behind him.
[06:14:39] The shield room is pretty good.
[06:14:40] I'm just gonna keep defending this mid tier one if you're p-vision.
[06:14:46] Keep giving space to no one.
[06:14:48] Keep looking for some sunshine kills.
[06:14:50] Relieve the pressure from the invoker.
[06:14:53] Hook the plate through your two-side later blow bit, if you can keep doing it.
[06:14:59] My class enjoys this battle with Malady because he's got Windrun, where a large share of the
[06:15:05] damage early on from J'Kyro comes from that Lugba Frost.
[06:15:10] Cheri Jr. is now hitting mid tower, and at some point, he visioned.
[06:15:15] Are you going to say enough is enough to try and stop these?
[06:15:19] Maybe they don't really have the option to, especially since, uh, I mean, who's gonna rotate it out on the side lane?
[06:15:25] Certainly not C-Tanak.
[06:15:26] Winter Wyvern's not terribly strong right now.
[06:15:28] You just gotta keep outspaming it.
[06:15:30] You're not gonna bring your two side lane courses mid lane.
[06:15:32] The Axe is getting way too much right now.
[06:15:34] He's power farming.
[06:15:36] And the Soldier is not a hero that joins early fights.
[06:15:39] So you just gotta make do with what you have around the mid lane.
[06:15:41] Doesn't mean you have support freedom to bring this Wyvern and Winter Ranger into any play you want.
[06:15:46] There's some benefit there.
[06:15:48] Just got to play for your first item timing, try and keep this mid tower alive to the tower
[06:15:53] of the invoker.
[06:15:54] Not for that enigma swinging behind mid could have been nice early in this game, but I think
[06:15:59] his lane just went too bad.
[06:16:00] It is too low level to make that kind of rotation.
[06:16:03] If he had dominated this lane, taken the bottom tier one quickly, he could have gone for that
[06:16:07] mid swing.
[06:16:08] And it could have swept this temple up considerably, but you just got to play it a little slower
[06:16:12] here.
[06:16:13] It does have Black Hole online.
[06:16:16] be a nice early game threat if you can have the support vacuum up.
[06:16:21] Now he's zooming the haste room.
[06:16:25] That's a tanky axe, man.
[06:16:28] It's a tanky axe. It's a tanky bear.
[06:16:30] There are a lot of tanky things sitting in front of Yandex that they just can't really threaten in these side lengths.
[06:16:35] But all the meanwhile, the Abyssin are probably very happy.
[06:16:38] They've almost got no one to his meter hammer, which will help him start chipping away at this mid tower,
[06:16:44] tower but also increases farm rate. As long as the tier 1 is standing mid for fusion, I think they're
[06:16:50] very happy with what's going on. Diffusal pango will pick the game up but you're still ways away
[06:16:55] from there so you have some more time to work with and axe is doing axe things man. You got a
[06:17:02] lot of early armor with these phase boots into the splint veil. Almost level 10. You're always a
[06:17:08] threat on Watson with the Sunstrike backup. Like you get called into Power Shop Sunstrike, you get
[06:17:13] chopped. So you can't get too aggressive up here with the panel answer.
[06:17:21] Depends on what supports you see on the map. See 9 class mid? Okay, you can kick him out of lane.
[06:17:25] You don't see any supports on the map? It's a lot spookier to go for that kind of simple play.
[06:17:30] And there are some ancient stacks being cleared by Shira Jr. here. Yeah, once again Yennex seemed
[06:17:35] to be okay with, uh, I feel like they have the heroes to make moves, but they're okay, just chilling
[06:17:40] and hitting a better timing later on that'll be that defusal blade timing
[06:17:45] uh
[06:17:47] into that
[06:17:48] I don't mind that just because it's enigma lane to not go the way they wanted it to
[06:17:53] so your whole game slows down as a result and you just have to respect that
[06:17:57] not force any bad moves
[06:18:01] That's what's going to be the build up for the enigma
[06:18:04] a lot of people even best way to play tagger that's for sure
[06:18:07] You will have to get something done with this enigma build up though.
[06:18:11] If you go Vessel on this here you need to go Funt.
[06:18:13] You need to get some charges.
[06:18:15] Start punching some hairs around the map.
[06:18:17] Take that big talent.
[06:18:19] I mean let's scale a little bit here I guess against some of the anti-healing.
[06:18:21] Throw it on the bear but...
[06:18:26] And they'll tell him something like it'll be a little difficult to use good Columbraces.
[06:18:30] Because there might be a Magical Fire, they do have a Vessel.
[06:18:33] It sets up for the Illuminate Blast of Soxa.
[06:18:37] There is some magic damage to punish it, at least early on.
[06:18:43] I kind of smoke, noticed. He went...
[06:18:45] Ring into Splintmail, into Blink.
[06:18:48] Very unexpected Blink, if you're sitting here as the index.
[06:18:52] He could pay off in a big way. He's about to get a two-man call!
[06:18:55] The Sun Strike, placed onto Soxa. One calling play now, and Tep did roll up, but...
[06:19:00] A really great winners curve. They're going to troll them for so long, get the meter on them and another dunk.
[06:19:05] What a surprise pickup from Novi. That plays off beautifully.
[06:19:09] It's a third kill they're going to get off of this play.
[06:19:12] Oh my, that is just so sick.
[06:19:16] That is the best outcome you could possibly go for with rushing the blink over
[06:19:23] a more far-man and like blaming on doing an entrance or something.
[06:19:26] Not only do you get three heroes off this play,
[06:19:29] them in beautiful fashion, the invokers involved, you steal some of the ancients, you get chops
[06:19:33] out of it, and you lose nothing.
[06:19:36] And Blink Tagger just paid for itself basically.
[06:19:40] 100%.
[06:19:41] Sick move.
[06:19:42] And you slow down that diffuse all the pink, which is the one item you want to slow down
[06:19:47] in this game.
[06:19:48] Absolutely.
[06:19:49] Like that is just an immaculate move, you can get that mid tower, you can have them hammered.
[06:19:53] That's a 4-5k networked equivalent player right there off of a surprise Blink, and you're
[06:19:57] You're just not thinking about that at all because you're looking at this axe.
[06:20:00] He has split mail. He has ring.
[06:20:02] Alright, he's got to finish up the blade mail, right?
[06:20:03] This is standard build up. The ring's for the regen.
[06:20:05] He's going to do some ancients and then he'll have blinked.
[06:20:07] You're thinking he's still like a thousand off of that, maybe fifteen hundred.
[06:20:10] And then all of a sudden he's just jumping you and your ancients.
[06:20:15] See, Tank? He's going to be a bit too late to contest the wisdom shrine again.
[06:20:19] He's positioning.
[06:20:20] Not there for it, but he almost has his mill there.
[06:20:23] Even the axe top the net worth chart and wants and trying to catch up, but it's just a slower farming hero
[06:20:31] Mantle will speed that along a little bit more, but it's time for yandex to strike back here
[06:20:36] But look at something to call us off of this not gonna be super happy
[06:20:40] It's free though. That's true. The chakra magic all these plays are free with the pango
[06:20:45] You're gonna get something off of this move, but you're right. It's not a big target
[06:20:48] It's the hero that P-Visioner are happy to give away here, especially with three cores
[06:20:53] all farming the map right now, and there's the play mill for the axe.
[06:20:56] So this axe fall just got a lot deadlier.
[06:20:59] Top tower is going to fall for free, they'll cut another wave, and they can absolutely
[06:21:02] bring him into another play.
[06:21:04] This is where the map becomes a little scarier to play, particularly around that mid lane.
[06:21:08] You smoke that axe in a mid, he gets a nice call, it's going to set the whole team fight
[06:21:12] up because there's so much follow-up off of this stun, and no way to really disengage
[06:21:15] from it in this game.
[06:21:16] Nobody can really create a buffer unless you just blink black hole.
[06:21:19] Oh, you can't lose the pango here again.
[06:21:21] Notice, planks past here, junior, junior, junior, gets low ground, but does get shackled up.
[06:21:25] Here comes the SunTrend, got him throwing the no, the call comes through first!
[06:21:28] Noticed again, and now the winners curse on the enigma with the idol on Tinto.
[06:21:33] So DM takes a heap of damage, he's gonna go down again.
[06:21:36] Notice, he is cleaning house this game.
[06:21:40] What a monster.
[06:21:42] Level 13 in this game right now.
[06:21:45] No one's even level 12.
[06:21:46] Doesn't his career at Ida Lanzo?
[06:21:49] That's a little unfortunate.
[06:21:50] But he's already got some early chop armor, nine armor, harvested by the 16 minute bar.
[06:21:57] Oh, no one's trying to make a solo play here.
[06:21:59] He did out fast enough.
[06:22:01] It's close!
[06:22:02] He does die to Watson, so that was actually a bit of a gift there for Yandex, too.
[06:22:06] Or in a bit of a bad spot.
[06:22:09] And that's the Manta for the Phantom Lancer.
[06:22:11] So he gets Manta completed plus that gold injection.
[06:22:14] Yeah, nice pick up for him.
[06:22:15] I need to peel this Alvage a little bit of this game. This axe is doing work.
[06:22:24] Link tag her next for DM. He's got pestle charges, so you get this blink,
[06:22:32] you can definitely start getting involved in the game in a big way.
[06:22:39] This is the Mjolnir bear, not attacking, still pushing.
[06:22:44] That's so silly.
[06:22:46] DeKalus is hoping to go blink for blink, he's just gonna be the answer to the nickname of the entire game.
[06:22:52] Slow down, Sunstrike a little off the mark, but somebody will get the kill, not somebody as Satanic,
[06:22:57] who was halfway to his agonim scepter, and that's when the bear really starts ramping up the pressure
[06:23:05] between his global presence and the invoker and the the active axe you're
[06:23:13] gonna be feeling you're gonna be feeling it if you're a Yandex. That's where this
[06:23:17] game can become uncarable for the Phantom Lance or if you start just
[06:23:20] bleeding out heroes across the map even if the PL is finding farm this isn't a
[06:23:24] hero that won v5s in a true sense he still needs some somebody else to make
[06:23:29] some space in the fight and help you contribute some damage at least a little
[06:23:32] control. Notice on the hunt. He's got the
[06:23:40] Sun Strike, he's got the Power Shot. Every
[06:23:43] call is deadly right now on the map so
[06:23:45] we can occupy some enemy territory. It
[06:23:47] feels real good to take away the farm
[06:23:49] from Watson here. See Yandex just playing
[06:23:52] full defense here. Double offensive
[06:23:54] wards and double defensive wards
[06:23:56] basically placing the same spots here.
[06:23:58] Well, Yandex and P-Vision trying to defend
[06:24:00] or attack the PL's farming rotation. Not a hero that's going to go do ancients, so you kind of know
[06:24:06] where Watson wants to stay. They almost got to him there.
[06:24:15] Lee Ferris just trying to get to their aggs uncontested, and the low druid is very uncontested.
[06:24:20] They do have an amp damage on cheer junior, and he finished his blink, so they're going to smoke,
[06:24:24] bring Watson into this play. They say he's strong enough to join the fight right now.
[06:24:28] I think they've already seemed to have made the read because they had this Lotus Ward on the right side of the map that spotted DM's movement.
[06:24:36] Well, they also had this ops right where they smoked around this like hard camp near the mid tier 2.
[06:24:42] The heads up ops placement from 9 class early will bail them out of this camp damage timing.
[06:24:46] 9 class will lead them on a little chase here.
[06:24:50] And he may eventually die for it, actually tucks himself into the corner and TP's out successfully.
[06:24:55] So absolutely nothing theme for but it's essentially like four heroes all hunting
[06:25:00] And that's the risk with making these big plays bringing the carry into it that basically called you it cost you a thousand network
[06:25:07] As these other cores are just mopping up the map
[06:25:11] That's why it's oftentimes so easy just to be the ones to sit back and farm
[06:25:15] Which is where that that noticed again that early blink that or pick up was so cool because if they don't find that kill
[06:25:21] right he starts falling behind 100% misses his timings. Very few players would go for that play
[06:25:26] especially in a stressful game like this. Notice. Did we see the champ that just got farmed?
[06:25:34] Gets the call into the pango. Sun strike and pulling plate. Sun strike is all it takes.
[06:25:40] He is on a rampage in this game. 7-1 and 2. Just making everything happen right now.
[06:25:45] Now, he's probably gotten this in Voker, actually, like 1000 plus gold, just off of his place, right?
[06:25:51] He's gotten the bear, another 1000 or 2000 with all the space that's at the anti-tank side of farm,
[06:25:57] because there's no pressure going into him.
[06:25:58] Ag's is already done here for the panda, now also level 15.
[06:26:04] So the map pressure is going to pick up considerably right now.
[06:26:07] Yeah, now it's no longer the lone druid bear, with them, you and their just pushing out the bottom lane.
[06:26:11] He's going to take that off lane tower, make the map smaller.
[06:26:14] If you get Satanic this much space, you can farm on all his jungle with the hero, continue to push waves with the bear.
[06:26:20] This lead is going to exponentially increase here. You just don't have the same amount of space to keep up.
[06:26:27] You needed some more fights going your way with this Pangolier. You needed to maybe get one or two extra kills with Black Hole.
[06:26:33] On their side of the map with the enigma, you're losing too much ground right now. This lead is gonna explode.
[06:26:39] Idle on, spreading out through the map. Now they need little mobile wards to try and read
[06:26:47] these rotations to make sure that Watson is still farming uncontested. Which he has been.
[06:26:52] He wasn't the one caught by the axe earlier, that was CJ. Jump on a nine class here, win
[06:26:57] run. To make it difficult for them, but ultimately he will die, right? He'll die. Okay, just
[06:27:03] to make sure they got him.
[06:27:04] Get a little extra TP, you know?
[06:27:08] More value off that kill, but again, not a big target.
[06:27:11] Yeah.
[06:27:12] I think that's a thing that P-Vision and Hound are
[06:27:14] consistently been better at, is putting their supports in a position that they just don't
[06:27:19] bleed anything from many of these smokes.
[06:27:21] Malady spotted on the low, despite no one.
[06:27:23] I see ya.
[06:27:24] That's a freebie.
[06:27:25] They didn't even need to pop the smoke on the other two heroes, they could still look
[06:27:28] for an act plate.
[06:27:29] And of course, he can go in solo because you have the global backup of that Sunstrike.
[06:27:33] And he's gonna get the call on the fan, Lancer!
[06:27:35] Sun strike, not being thrown out!
[06:27:37] You didn't have the mana for it.
[06:27:38] Broker, TP away to the end.
[06:27:39] Big-eyed Winner's Curse. They've got enough to stop this one.
[06:27:42] No Doppelganger to get away. Another cooling blade.
[06:27:44] While the bear is pushing bottom, it took the off-lane tower.
[06:27:47] Now it's taking your ancient stack.
[06:27:49] Everything is being ripped away from Yandex right now.
[06:27:53] This is high.
[06:27:54] It's gotta get lost, the bear.
[06:27:57] The Malphys.
[06:27:59] Slowdowns should be more than enough to get that bounty.
[06:28:02] It'll be 315 for cheer junior that helps, but it does not rectify these pickups
[06:28:12] Have to find a way to regroup on this map
[06:28:16] We're at the point in this game past 20 minutes torment
[06:28:18] There's online roaches there you keep bleeding some of these kills
[06:28:21] You're gonna pay a way bigger price than you have so far in this game. Oh, man
[06:28:25] Okay, so Malady just they had a word and they saw the wyvern up here in this lotus here
[06:28:30] He placed a sentry saying, okay, he placed a ward somewhere over here.
[06:28:34] They found the old ward.
[06:28:36] They didn't find the new ward.
[06:28:38] So that could be pretty massive if the index, you know, try and make a move through this
[06:28:43] area, try and take a fight on Tormentor.
[06:28:45] Let's see if it pays off here.
[06:28:48] Feels like their Tormentor can take right now.
[06:28:50] There's no way you're doing it if you're the index.
[06:28:54] Right.
[06:28:55] Could you have blinked black hole available, and that is an X factor here on these objective
[06:28:59] fights. Rolling Thunder also pretty good around like Roche Petourmenter.
[06:29:04] Yeah, they definitely wanted to contest. Malady is gonna work his way trying to get
[06:29:09] through the gate. No one is going to be caught here at the same time as the Jekiro. Bigger
[06:29:16] kill. Wow, that was a lot for it. They already had a control with the rolling Thunder, but
[06:29:20] they dropped a black hole just to ensure it's a thousand gold.
[06:29:24] Eidolon's will spot the heroes rushing through the gate.
[06:29:27] He just do not want to let them get out of here.
[06:29:29] Link for Blink.
[06:29:30] Nine class, trying to catch him off the Shaggleshot.
[06:29:32] Doesn't mean he'll land it on DM, but a bit too far out initially,
[06:29:35] but the axe is still gonna blink forward.
[06:29:36] Hit a battle hunger on CJ, slowing him down.
[06:29:39] Quickly reprieve there is the swashbuckle.
[06:29:42] Cleanses that one off.
[06:29:44] Kind of surprising. KiVision chased through that gate.
[06:29:47] I said it's just like going through a door there or something.
[06:29:49] Right, yeah.
[06:29:50] Like, Black Hole gets dropped for your mo-
[06:29:51] Okay, whatever. We'll do an objective.
[06:29:53] Maybe you can still do it here now. Anyway, Black Hole's a long cooldown.
[06:29:57] Which could be an issue in this game. Honestly, if you become more and more dependent on that spell to teamfight, along with rolling thunder, if your ults are down,
[06:30:03] what happens in the air room?
[06:30:05] Especially with a lineup that can do objectives pretty fast, push the waves out pretty quickly.
[06:30:10] Look at this axe just forming in your face. RDP could be done. What do you do to him?
[06:30:14] Absolutely nothing. Not a damn thing.
[06:30:16] Tornado. Attempts it, CJ, blinking ahead of it, and he is so close to his agonimceptor.
[06:30:26] I'm just watching this bear vacuum up the entire bottom half of this map.
[06:30:32] He is so massive.
[06:30:34] This is the issue. If you can't control this area, he outforms everybody in the game.
[06:30:39] In 5,600, 500 up on the Phantom Lancer. He has 700 GPM right now.
[06:30:45] Sox said it's gonna be spotted by the vessel nine class landsat on him and we'll get a charge back
[06:30:53] Some more armor he's up to 13 and a half by this is a significant amount of bonus armor this early on
[06:31:00] And a road shot that is free for the taking
[06:31:02] with no black hole
[06:31:04] no
[06:31:06] puddle
[06:31:08] No way to fight and this is the issue. Yeah, maybe you have federal aching
[06:31:12] But you have some clutch pl pig you're not gonna get there because this is classic p-vision
[06:31:17] Control the waves find the pickoff translate it into an objective
[06:31:20] They don't need the five-on-five if they're not even looking for the five-on-five
[06:31:23] They're looking for the one kill that leads them into a network advantage. This is how you scale in Dota
[06:31:28] This is how you gain a network for you
[06:31:30] And that never with people translate to that classic like 35 minute high ground
[06:31:36] Well, they've done this time and time again
[06:31:39] the end. This game, the Roche was done a little later, so maybe that timing gets delayed a
[06:31:45] little bit. We'll see how strong Satanic things he is. I mean, this is a bear, it is
[06:31:49] extremely farmed, and you always have a Lackardy to throw on top of him. That is a lot of damage.
[06:31:54] And I always feel like the sooner you can pressure Pygrod against the panel answer doesn't mean
[06:31:59] you have to commit for that push, but the sooner you force him to join fights wherever that happens,
[06:32:03] the happier you are. Sure. Last thing you want to let him do is just be completed.
[06:32:09] Contested AFK farm to this like really tanky point which he's currently working towards Scotty
[06:32:16] So you take these tier twos and then all of a sudden when you get that pick off you can go high ground with it
[06:32:21] That's what you're looking to achieve right now because close silver edge done on the panda as it's running across
[06:32:27] This thing is just spring. It's like some death machine
[06:32:31] And it might just find some death
[06:32:35] Some heroes swirling out this side of the map
[06:32:39] Malady just dropping macro pyres, they're throwing idol on down lane, anything they can.
[06:32:44] But the hunt is on, the vision won't fight and pick us.
[06:32:48] Goodbye.
[06:32:49] It's just full wrap, though.
[06:32:50] If you look at where these dire dots are on the minimap, it's all on the edge of the map.
[06:32:54] Someone's farming the top edge, Sox is on the left, the Jakiro's on the bottom, and Nymum is farming out the right.
[06:33:00] Nobody wants to go anywhere near the center here.
[06:33:04] You don't have the vision for it, you don't have heroes that can do it safely.
[06:33:09] Especially when noticed as off the map he is back on the hunt in his room acts around this mid lane scan lands
[06:33:15] Spokes it's getting many opportunities here. We can get to get the call on DM
[06:33:20] Don't have a way who socks actually pushing himself in they actually have the black hole and no one took so much
[06:33:25] And it's not just off a chair junior. He's still trying to finish off
[06:33:28] No one here rolls through they've got to deal with the bear Watson was in trouble CJ heard the call and it pumps the bear once
[06:33:35] Shackle shot to slow him down, but ultimately it's just the death of DM.
[06:33:39] And no one lived.
[06:33:40] No one lived and keeps that Aegis intact.
[06:33:42] All of us dying to the Pallet bag on top of some of the Amoeba damage.
[06:33:46] But lives with 15 HP, perfectly executed here.
[06:33:50] They fed him and he got the Lotus HP as well.
[06:33:53] So some of that early Lotus saving pain off and very timely Shackle.
[06:33:58] Lotus are done before the axe will help protect the bear.
[06:34:02] Get rid of the Malifists, stuff the Solar Bind, get these heroes out of these ice path macro-pires situations easier.
[06:34:10] Look at them, just so fearless, they know they have nothing to worry about. Diving well past tier 2s, going in in triangles.
[06:34:18] Rolling Thunder, Black Claw on cooldown, that's a green light. Do whatever you want in this game.
[06:34:24] Notice, is he gonna find Tier Junior? There's a high ground war and Tier Junior's gonna blink out.
[06:34:28] out because that ward that sentry that was placed earlier didn't find the
[06:34:32] high ground ward placed by Maladier earlier. That saved CJ's life.
[06:34:39] Stop another minute on this Aegis. Not a high ground Aegis, but a few
[06:34:44] lot of confidence to look for anything here. Trying to find another clutch pick
[06:34:48] off.
[06:34:50] And Network Lead is just growing and growing, oh yeah, he visioned, and will eventually
[06:35:03] be presented the opportunity to hit a high ground, it's like inevitable they will get
[06:35:07] a core pick off, so far it's been those support kills, last time they got a core, it's pretty
[06:35:12] easy Roshan for them, play here from team, leading off the map, this quick kill onto
[06:35:16] But no one. It's a really good tornado that leads to the death of DM. He's gonna get burned out.
[06:35:22] Now no one is still low, but he has this Aegis. He may die to this rolling thunder.
[06:35:26] Meanwhile, notice just managed to get the initiation on Soxette. They cleaned up the Aegis.
[06:35:30] Is CJ gonna get out though? This rolling thunder is now gone.
[06:35:33] And with notice slugging down off the battlehunker, trying to get away from this bear,
[06:35:37] slowing him down a bit with the inhibitor that he used to play, but eventually you're gonna be entangled.
[06:35:41] And there's the core kill they were looking for. Leads off a god-like spree for notice.
[06:35:46] Fights are too chaotic. Especially if the PL can't stick in the middle of it.
[06:35:51] That's your chaos to throw back at them. But until Watson's ready to take an entire fight,
[06:35:55] the bear is just gonna slowly kill you. This axe is gonna find you.
[06:36:00] And the bear is also going to, when you win that fight, quickly kill buildings.
[06:36:03] Oh yeah. Oh, he found the PL. A big kill. They can get it. Slow down the scouting.
[06:36:07] He chokes him, he had the right target, takes the TPL,
[06:36:11] oh it goes, it goes, it goes, it goes with the backup plan.
[06:36:15] Stops Watson's TPL away and there's no out for him now.
[06:36:19] The bear will hunt him down.
[06:36:21] What a game from notice.
[06:36:25] Absolutely showing up in this game three.
[06:36:28] Oh and no one, a four staff forward DM.
[06:36:31] So much damage though, the four staff doesn't
[06:36:34] Help him survive.
[06:36:35] Just picking up on him.
[06:36:36] Dice anyway.
[06:36:37] Dice section here.
[06:36:40] And P vision tinting.
[06:36:41] They're all teammate in DM.
[06:36:45] A bit of a mistake there.
[06:36:46] It's gonna lead to more openings.
[06:36:47] No us.
[06:36:48] Call on Soxa.
[06:36:49] Just a try.
[06:36:50] Another kill.
[06:36:52] Just one by one.
[06:36:53] You're never gonna get this 505.
[06:36:55] And it's just into the tier four.
[06:36:56] And it's a team wipe.
[06:36:58] They're gonna team wipe them.
[06:37:00] Without any of them being near the other hero.
[06:37:02] the other hero.
[06:37:03] Territuner's just gonna die here as well, they've just bled out one hero at another
[06:37:06] and all of a sudden the base is entirely open for the taking.
[06:37:12] This game just looks over.
[06:37:14] Satanic is going to take a mid lane of Barracks, go for top, there's still the tier two bottom
[06:37:20] and there's probably not enough time to just go straight to tier four.
[06:37:23] It's so much damage though.
[06:37:26] Like losing racks is at this 30 minute mark against this team when there's so much map
[06:37:29] pressure just compounds that issue. How are you ever gonna get out of the map again?
[06:37:34] How are you gonna play any of the lanes and not get picked off? Yeah, the index
[06:37:39] better get real comfortable with their base. This is gonna be their home for
[06:37:43] the future. They're just gonna be locked inside here. And this is how you punish
[06:37:48] some of these really hard carries that just can't come online fast enough to
[06:37:52] exert their own presence in the game. You just start picking people off the map
[06:37:55] collapses. They don't have a lot of places to farm. You get that one clutch
[06:37:59] fine and the game just breaks open. And you never get to hit your timing on this
[06:38:03] fated lancer as he tries to work towards the Scotty. And what Kerry is better for
[06:38:07] this right? I mean I'll be very excited about that. No doubt should be because
[06:38:11] they are just one pick off one fight away from closing out a series and going
[06:38:17] to the grand finals. They can chill out wait for ages. Yandex will see whether
[06:38:24] desperation bites at them enough to go for a smokeout play into that Roshan.
[06:38:28] or if they're just gonna wager on a high ground hold.
[06:38:32] I think you have to go.
[06:38:33] You do have your item timing, like you have Axe Pango,
[06:38:36] BKB Enigma, and the Scotty is done on Lawson.
[06:38:38] So that's another reason you kind of have to go,
[06:38:40] because you're not gonna get close to another round of items
[06:38:42] before that base push comes in.
[06:38:43] This is as good as it gets.
[06:38:44] You're gonna need some big ultimates to land.
[06:38:47] You're gonna have to try and beta clump out from PewVision.
[06:38:51] The initial smoke isn't going to find anything here.
[06:38:54] It will get them into a position to take back
[06:38:57] some of this mid lane and bottom lane,
[06:38:59] get wards on their triangle.
[06:39:02] But ultimately, time is kind of against them here as P vision.
[06:39:07] You just wait things out, wait for a better opportunity.
[06:39:10] Some sort of pick.
[06:39:11] Ah, the lanes are going on in three minutes.
[06:39:13] You have to deal with top because you lost barracks here.
[06:39:15] Their pinging wants it up here.
[06:39:17] They saw him throw the lance.
[06:39:19] Notice.
[06:39:19] They see the red one running backwards and get the call on to him.
[06:39:21] Here comes that cataclysm.
[06:39:23] It's coming in hot.
[06:39:24] He dodged it.
[06:39:24] He does pass the doppelganger.
[06:39:25] What a man to dodge.
[06:39:26] gets away from it all very dangerous all gandex team being back to bail out their
[06:39:32] carry seat there's a punish available here tag notice with the macro player
[06:39:35] no there CJ is already gone as the bear is going to just kill them all man they
[06:39:42] can do nothing about this BKB bear he is chop it fools out here all that time in
[06:39:48] the jungle has led to an insane item timing for satanic here and the best
[06:39:53] That's it, Bavard is Satanic, his hero doesn't even need to be here.
[06:39:56] He's just been far enough to try and go the entire time.
[06:40:00] Gary slowly, but it's getting the job done, getting the extra farm for them, and it's
[06:40:04] racked up to almost 30,000 net worth lead for P vision.
[06:40:10] Yandex on their last legs here.
[06:40:15] They will have to find something miraculous in the next team fight.
[06:40:20] And if the enigma gets jumped, I think that goes out the window.
[06:40:24] And if the high grind without the DKV is already taking the tier 3,
[06:40:28] Satanic keeping the pressure up on them.
[06:40:31] Saying are you going to deal with this bear? Are you going to kill it?
[06:40:34] The reward for killing the bear is not terribly high because he's just going to make the resummon.
[06:40:39] And the risk is, well we saw people all set up behind that bear.
[06:40:44] You just go wait for the rush on.
[06:40:47] Clear an aegis on one of these guys, you send it up the hill with an ant damage.
[06:40:51] I mean it's just gonna be a disgusting amount of strength.
[06:40:54] Hey, wanna go for another one with this?
[06:40:56] Look for a pick off.
[06:40:58] Yeah, there's a lane pressure.
[06:40:59] Here comes that silver edge bear.
[06:41:09] He send it in bottom.
[06:41:11] He's looking at like the one camp they can farm.
[06:41:13] It's like I know you're here.
[06:41:15] I'm gonna take your camp anyway.
[06:41:16] Oh, Malady just saw his life flash before his eyes, and if he was on that camp, he would have been the one that died and had damage instead of the neutral creeps.
[06:41:29] The disgusting part is if you guys really want to slow play this, they can't.
[06:41:34] You have to end this barrier, you have to invoke her with all his rat action.
[06:41:38] Yeah, just keep throwing things at the middle, just throw them onto these units of the bottom lane.
[06:41:42] of lane. You have the other two lanes. And what are they going to do? Right, you can never do Roshan
[06:41:48] until you see them all in base and you do Roshan. Gonna get an axe synth for the bear to have a
[06:41:54] true six slot and roaches up. And uh, the antics are not in a position to be able to contest.
[06:42:04] Now they are never going to be in a position to contest this. You just have to play for the base defense.
[06:42:08] See how Phantasy's Bear chops it down? Pretty damn fast here.
[06:42:25] Gotta give it to no one again.
[06:42:28] Should make that teamfight even harder.
[06:42:38] the other side of the map. Now you can get an easy buyback at the very start of this age.
[06:42:43] A spare is still trying to hunt down, say, 10, or a Soxor, rather.
[06:42:46] I think if South-South Terrarium gets a TP away, the bear is not going to be close enough to hit a roar.
[06:42:52] Asecraft is almost dead, just purely off. Fort Spirit's, in fact, is dead.
[06:42:57] Double Siege wagon. Fort Spirit's.
[06:43:00] Yeah, next. I mean, look at that thing. Do I have to rolling thunder?
[06:43:04] That's a two win right now.
[06:43:05] The building's going to die fast.
[06:43:07] They hit it with the ice bat.
[06:43:08] Now the one Thunder comes in, trying to kill this bear.
[06:43:11] But they've got to be careful to counter initiation.
[06:43:13] Full of grace comes in.
[06:43:14] There's the call on two.
[06:43:15] It both supports a beautiful initiation.
[06:43:18] One's already dead.
[06:43:19] CJ jumps after no one.
[06:43:20] But reminder, he's got the Aegis.
[06:43:21] Socks us, still alive.
[06:43:23] No one's trying to get out of this situation.
[06:43:24] The black hole in the bear.
[06:43:25] Yeah, a black hole in the bear.
[06:43:27] Just trying to stop it.
[06:43:27] The bigger surprise.
[06:43:28] It kills DM anyway.
[06:43:29] Watson is doing work right now.
[06:43:31] He's managed to kill one.
[06:43:32] Got notice down.
[06:43:33] Now Bi-Bat could be used, a power shot to hunt down Soxa.
[06:43:35] Watson, on his second life though, the clip gets pumped,
[06:43:38] the building's almost dead, killed the bear at one time.
[06:43:40] What about the second bear though?
[06:43:41] It's gonna be coming back soon, notice on his second life.
[06:43:43] And it's gonna get the call on the scene.
[06:43:44] He's getting lower and lower,
[06:43:46] and it's gonna get the call on the fight,
[06:43:47] and that's the chop, he's down, another Bi-Bat,
[06:43:48] gonna be forced out, meanwhile, he's got Watson,
[06:43:51] trying to finish off these heroes,
[06:43:52] but they're shooting too many lives.
[06:43:53] The mega creeps are gonna be here,
[06:43:55] the call embrace is bailed out,
[06:43:56] and Watson, a final call, they're finishings off,
[06:43:59] life one, gone for it, Gigi is caught,
[06:44:01] They don't even try for the buyback!
[06:44:03] It's Payfishing!
[06:44:04] Going to the Grand Finals!
[06:44:06] They haven't looked in like the scariest team here.
[06:44:08] This is their toughest opponent yet,
[06:44:10] and in games 1 and 3, they just dominated.
[06:44:13] But again, the 30 to 40 minute period.
[06:44:16] If they get the map control they're looking for in these lineups,
[06:44:18] I have not seen anybody who could survive it.
[06:44:21] And what a game by notice.
[06:44:23] This is the guy they brought in for this season
[06:44:25] to make some big plays from that off-laner spot.
[06:44:27] Playing against one of their old off-laners,
[06:44:29] He makes a statement in this game with an insane axe performance, 12-2 and 14, just dominated from that lane, getting mega-fat, that blade purchase into the triple kill.
[06:44:39] It felt like you were already in a very soft position after that.
[06:44:42] Yeah, you should definitely go for a little bit with this pangol kick, but then he gets trapped in the game because he's just sub-strike in every axe kill.
[06:44:48] Free assist goal, free assist goal.
[06:44:50] I mean, he really just put this game on his back and it's easy-pickings for Satanic at that point, because he has so much time to form on a hero that is always going to out-karm your opponent.
[06:44:59] You just never look at insane map control from the team.
[06:45:02] Somebody, the lane is only one team left that can challenge it,
[06:45:04] and that's BB and the finals.
[06:45:06] They have to find a way to break the lane control,
[06:45:09] the pick-off potential, and the discipline
[06:45:11] around these objectives.
[06:45:12] That is your going to be your challenge,
[06:45:13] because it's not easy.
[06:45:15] Especially in a grand final situation,
[06:45:17] where the pressure is so high, the lights are so bright,
[06:45:20] having this team brought it to you again,
[06:45:23] the way that Novoz picked up that early blink tag
[06:45:25] of the decision-making that was added there.
[06:45:27] I mean, that's a move you're making out here that puts the enemy team under a lot of pressure
[06:45:32] when it hits and it hit hard in this Game 3.
[06:45:36] The edX have been incredibly good.
[06:45:38] I mean, they've just been monsters all year round.
[06:45:42] So many top three performances from them in nine different top threes this year.
[06:45:47] Can't find it here.
[06:45:50] Just insane jumps.
[06:45:51] I also prompted to call.
[06:45:53] He had some sick curses in that game, where this is not necessarily the easiest game to find curses.
[06:45:57] I even hit the real PL here at the end.
[06:45:59] Oh yeah, that's...
[06:46:00] Okay, sure.
[06:46:01] You're just in zone.
[06:46:02] He had a very nice Wyvern game.
[06:46:05] This hero can sometimes be a liability against a lot of these chaotic teams I like.
[06:46:08] Also, man, he put work in.
[06:46:10] We're going to see P-Vision in the Grand Finals against BB-Team, and let's see how prepared they are.
[06:46:16] Thank you very much, my friends, and we are here with P-Vision Satanic, Victorious, and moving on!
[06:46:22] To the grand final here in Paris, good to have you here.
[06:46:26] Obviously, the series against Jannis went to game three.
[06:46:29] Game one was a watch over, what happened there?
[06:46:32] I think we just have all three games, much better draft, I think.
[06:46:38] All three of them, including in game two?
[06:46:40] There was the monkey king out there, were you surprised when he saw him?
[06:46:43] Not really, we just expected it.
[06:46:47] But I think we just played... I fucked up that game, I think, mostly.
[06:46:52] Was it more, hey, things were going well in the lane, but it got so deep that we couldn't really play around a Monkey King?
[06:46:58] I would say it was a super free game. I just went on edge and lost edges. We should have made big lead and win this game.
[06:47:09] But even like this, we made a comeback in the game,
[06:47:12] because they gave us the kill itself and then the crux.
[06:47:15] But then in the super late game, last fight, I just blinked in and died like idiot, you know?
[06:47:20] It happens, yeah.
[06:47:22] It happens even to the best out there.
[06:47:24] Now, game three, there was the first pick of the Invoker.
[06:47:27] Was that a reaction to the result of game two?
[06:47:30] Was it more of a comfort pick? Was it just playing around draft? What was it?
[06:47:32] I mean, Puppey just saw Park Bann and he said,
[06:47:36] okay, I'll go in with him.
[06:47:37] You've got to trust your teammates after all of this and look, everybody's been picking low under it at this point.
[06:47:43] Is this kind of the way to win? What do you do tomorrow when you play BB team and they pick low under it?
[06:47:48] I think it's fine here, but it's not up to him. I think for us like Shadowfiend or Brawl is better still, so they ban it.
[06:47:57] I don't think it's like Superimbo, so Yandex knew it as well and they didn't really pick it because we were winning it in the playoffs as well
[06:48:04] and we know how to deal with it.
[06:48:06] So it's not really that big of a deal, I think.
[06:48:08] Fair enough.
[06:48:09] And a lot of people calling this game between P-Vision and Yandex
[06:48:13] as kind of a prelude to the grand final.
[06:48:15] Might as well be a grand final in the semis.
[06:48:18] Do you think this game will be tougher than the grand final tomorrow against PVT?
[06:48:22] I think Yandex was anyway the toughest opponent for us.
[06:48:27] But we'll see tomorrow.
[06:48:29] Well, speaking of tomorrow, yesterday,
[06:48:32] When we talked about your victory, you're saying,
[06:48:35] hey, final message to Yandex, we'll crush you tomorrow.
[06:48:38] Ended up happening.
[06:48:40] Look at this camera right here in front of us.
[06:48:41] You got BB Team on the other side.
[06:48:43] What do you want to say to them before the final?
[06:48:45] We're coming for you, guys.
[06:48:47] They're coming for you!
[06:48:48] That's Satanic! That's P-Vision!
[06:48:50] And of course, that means that you get to crush Yandex's key,
[06:48:54] so please, come on over, no one!
[06:48:56] Get everybody up in here!
[06:48:57] You think you're gonna crush it this time around,
[06:48:59] or are you gonna give it to someone else?
[06:49:00] I'll give it for Nautis for sure.
[06:49:02] Oh, there's the team play. All right, then we're all together. Let's walk on up to a crusher.
[06:49:07] You're used to it at this point. There's only one more time left. That'll be tomorrow.
[06:49:13] Big, big moment and day for P. Vision will remind you. Last year they only made it to third place here.
[06:49:20] They're already in the grand final and notice is the one to do the crushing.
[06:49:25] Let's know what Anzaitanik giving the blessing for this one.
[06:49:31] There's the...
[06:49:32] Whoa!
[06:49:33] He's so strong, he pulled it off!
[06:49:35] My God!
[06:49:36] I should see him in the drafts!
[06:49:38] There it is!
[06:49:41] Going deeper and deeper!
[06:49:42] There's Yandex!
[06:49:43] And there they are!
[06:49:44] Crushed to bits!
[06:49:45] Every single piece gone!
[06:49:46] Key vision mixture!
[06:49:47] Yandex are history!
[06:49:48] And the vision makes sure Yandex are history.
[06:49:56] One more time ladies and gentlemen, your second grand finalist, PeeVision!
[06:50:00] There's our day, Don.
[06:50:04] Let's break it all down.
[06:50:06] Panel, all yours.
[06:50:09] I must say that crushing felt different.
[06:50:12] That hit hard and this game three hit even harder.
[06:50:15] This was not a close game.
[06:50:18] We had the first two games of this best of three series, you know, a methodical, back
[06:50:24] and forth, cool, first one maybe a little bit more dominant, but this one, Lacoste,
[06:50:29] this one was not close at all.
[06:50:31] That really wasn't, but you can tell like the way they played, like they tried, they
[06:50:37] tried this BL24, it didn't work out for them.
[06:50:40] It looked like a very good overall pick, but PVision, they said, you know what, we're
[06:50:43] gonna put it into the next year. Like this is gonna be like full speed kind of
[06:50:48] turbo mode that they managed to pull off in this game and I think they came very
[06:50:51] well prepared. Something they talked about in the interviews was also that the
[06:50:54] puppy he's doing all the drafts they put quite a lot of trust in the puppy. We
[06:50:59] don't know anything you know he's gonna do it. We just picked the heroes and
[06:51:03] they're clicking pretty well because everything is working but you can
[06:51:07] definitely feel some puppy magic behind it and quite a lot of you know the if we
[06:51:12] see what happened like they let him pick Laundroid because they feel very
[06:51:15] confident about the Laundroid getting through they beat it four times and then
[06:51:19] they knew that a Miig was gonna come so they preemptively pick Wyvern and they
[06:51:23] crush him in the lane as well yeah I mean that was just a master class and
[06:51:27] notice crush that key as violently as he crushed Yandex in this game I mean that
[06:51:33] was all axe to me with the draft was beautiful the preparation was beautiful
[06:51:37] but he just popped off on this axe from the laning stage to getting the kills
[06:51:42] to getting these multiple hero calls, to setting up Sunstrike for his Invoker.
[06:51:45] He was the story of this game for me.
[06:51:48] Yeah, he crushed his former team with that as well.
[06:51:51] Of course, both of these teams swapped off laners mid-season, basically.
[06:51:56] And it is Key Vision that takes the crown in this series.
[06:52:01] We'll see if they take the crown tomorrow against BB as well.
[06:52:05] But this was definitely such a strong showing from this squad.
[06:52:08] They're just looking like raid boss.
[06:52:12] Yes, they really are.
[06:52:14] I love the overall, not the overall last one, but their last pick of Windranger as well.
[06:52:18] It's not your typical 9 class hero, I feel like, because we've seen him on it, but it worked out so well.
[06:52:24] It did. It looked like, you know, the pick that's not going to be doing any crazy stuff,
[06:52:29] but again, he did pull off some really big shackles.
[06:52:32] He was playing with axe when he needed to he allowed axe to get the insane amount of farm in the laning stage
[06:52:38] And the callus as well
[06:52:40] He really really stepped it up in this one like playing out of his mind some really nice curses coming out finding the real
[06:52:47] PL in the end clutching it with the heels all just his positioning was stopped here
[06:52:52] This is the dude that has been grinding for a really long time and with this team he gets to shine
[06:52:57] Yeah, he said
[06:52:58] We haven't really been tested before the series. We saw him say that we feel like we haven't really been tested, but
[06:53:04] Maybe we're just good
[06:53:06] I think it's the latter at this point. Maybe they're just good. That's something to call this
[06:53:11] You know should be realizing right about that's for sure
[06:53:15] I believe also you've chosen some points in this game lacrosse that you'd like to highlight for us
[06:53:19] Yeah, I really like the way that they played around accent because he was on top of the network
[06:53:24] he was the one that was causing quite a lot of issues for the enemy team and this is relatively
[06:53:30] early on in the game. This is 12 minutes if you look at his items, face boots, ring of health and
[06:53:35] casual armor item because he is landing against PL and he finds one of the best calls that he
[06:53:39] could find. Like I don't think it can get better than this at the start and you can see others
[06:53:44] also immediately playing with him. Again very good curse coming up from the Colossus, they're
[06:53:48] gonna get another chop for notice and then you see nine class coming up from a different angle
[06:53:52] understanding exactly where Malady is going to come from, which is going to be extra bit of a armor,
[06:53:57] extra bit of a gold coming into his pocket, and he's going to be snowballing that whole game.
[06:54:01] And there's going to be another one where he jumps over him, another smoke, you can see the nine class
[06:54:06] again, Ace playing with him, Shackle that he kind of read where he's going to go. He immediately gets
[06:54:11] him, and again the trio, a lot of the time you see Invoker playing with the two supports this
[06:54:16] time it was Axe because they have that global presence with the Sun Strike on top of that,
[06:54:20] and getting another kill. Enigma, he got thrown in the lane and he got thrown throughout the whole
[06:54:25] game because he was unable to play against this Winter Warvern who had his number.
[06:54:28] And if an axe is that dominant early on in the game, then this idea that you have
[06:54:33] with PL as the Enaxis isn't effective because you think it's fine to pick PL versus axe because
[06:54:37] the laning stage is good, you lose the laning stage, you're giving away kills, and all of a sudden
[06:54:42] this axe is much stronger than he should be early on and he sets up for every hero on his team in
[06:54:47] in that sense. And Enigma who's playing on the back foot can't really make the same kind
[06:54:51] of plays if you're comparing him to Axe.
[06:54:53] An infinite scaling coats of blood coming in noticed way with that Axe as well. A lot
[06:54:58] of dunks done by him for this one. And we had to give it to noticed. It was a little
[06:55:04] bit point of debate because if it was a 2-0 maybe it would have gone for a different one.
[06:55:08] But no, this was definitely MVP noticed for this series across.
[06:55:12] Yeah, absolutely. His gameplay definitely wasn't unnoticed by production enough. So
[06:55:16] we gave him MVP because in that first game he really nailed it. They gave him, I would say in this one
[06:55:23] they gave him caught a lot of priority last picking his hero overall in the previous one
[06:55:27] they gave him a little bit of priority as well picking axe on 18
[06:55:31] but he kind of nailed it through a lot of the itemization in the first game picking up the
[06:55:35] Road of Aetos into agonium scepter having that extra bit of a catch that was definitely needed and again
[06:55:40] Just the whole squad is on the same page and this guy has been crushing at this tournament
[06:55:46] my my MVP if I
[06:55:48] Got get to choose because he was all over the place like every single game
[06:55:52] I see him own there was one point of the tournament during the group stage where his KDA was like
[06:55:58] 30 or something and he was sitting at the 0.6
[06:56:01] That's average for a game it did go up
[06:56:03] But still less than two at the moment
[06:56:06] It just feels like he makes whatever you give him work, and that is such an asset to have
[06:56:11] in your off-laner.
[06:56:12] Like, he can play Aura's if you need him to, he can carry the game if you need him to,
[06:56:16] and because his hero pool is so big, whatever support that 9-Class won, so you can kind
[06:56:20] of go for it.
[06:56:21] Even though he's been playing a little bit more traditionally this tournament, but if
[06:56:24] you compare it to DM's hero pool this tournament, it was much smaller.
[06:56:27] Every once, also speaking of 9-Class, he gets to play in the Grand Finals tomorrow on his
[06:56:33] birthday. That's also kind of special and cool. We'll see if he gets the ultimate birthday present,
[06:56:38] but taking the victory there. Of course, when there is victory on one side, there must also be
[06:56:44] losers on the other side. We are going to see Yandex again tomorrow in the third, fourth place
[06:56:49] this side, or against Vici Gaming, but we're also going to get some final words from Shira Jr.
[06:56:55] I am here with Shira Jr. of Yandex. You just lost your series. How are you feeling right now?
[06:57:00] Can you expand on that at all? I'm sure Game 3 is really tough, it's very one-sided.
[06:57:06] First two games were very good, they were close.
[06:57:08] I mean, I think every game was one-sided.
[06:57:11] Maybe because of heroes, maybe we played bad, but it was hard to play map, I guess,
[06:57:18] because of the split pushing, the shadow pushing.
[06:57:23] It's pretty much it.
[06:57:26] What did game 3 feel like? Student Laney's stage was great.
[06:57:28] You were like way ahead, you had denies equal to his last hits, kind of a thing,
[06:57:32] and then just the axe destroyed the map.
[06:57:36] Not really only the axe, we didn't pressure them enough on mid,
[06:57:43] so we didn't speed up our game,
[06:57:48] and we had chances if the game was even, but not like this.
[06:57:54] Did you need to get kills on Invoker, then kill Maid, or something?
[06:57:58] Yeah, no, I just... I should.
[06:58:00] Gotcha. That must be very tough. You guys played a lot of really good matches at this tournament as a whole. You're a fantastic team.
[06:58:06] You've got third place decider up tomorrow. I know that's a lot to think about until then, but how do you think you'll fare?
[06:58:13] I mean, I have to win.
[06:58:16] Yeah, that makes sense. Alright, well, thank you for joining me. Sorry you lost, but good luck on your matches tomorrow.
[06:58:22] Thank you.
[06:58:25] It's heartbreaking, this is a team that was expecting
[06:58:29] to be in those grand finals,
[06:58:31] and for many people, they were the team
[06:58:34] that would take those grand finals.
[06:58:36] So a lot to process here for Yan-Nex and Shira Junior indeed,
[06:58:39] and we will see them tomorrow
[06:58:41] in those third, fourth place.
[06:58:43] Decider, we can take a look at how our bracket is doing,
[06:58:45] because we are coming very close
[06:58:48] to crowning ourselves a champion.
[06:58:51] As we have set up our final two series of the day,
[06:58:55] we've got our finals, we've got our third place match,
[06:58:57] and today we had two pairs of the semi-finals, Effie.
[06:59:02] We really did, and I can imagine tomorrow
[06:59:05] is gonna be a bit nerve-wracking for any team
[06:59:08] that goes against PVGN after their showing today.
[06:59:10] They just looked ridiculously tough.
[06:59:12] PVGN are very strong,
[06:59:13] and I believe that they're gonna be able to put up a show,
[06:59:16] but right now, the way that I perceive PVGN,
[06:59:18] they're just significantly better than our videos.
[06:59:21] Yeah, they look like on a different level.
[06:59:23] BB, I think they're gonna be screwing up nicely against them
[06:59:27] because of how strong this team is early on.
[06:59:29] Like, all of their drafts, they always look good,
[06:59:32] something that we've seen with P-Vision.
[06:59:34] I think two of these teams have had so far
[06:59:37] the best drafting at EWC,
[06:59:39] and it's gonna come down to who can speed things up.
[06:59:42] And if we're talking about speed,
[06:59:44] BB team, they can play very, very fast as well.
[06:59:46] Yeah, for the people that paid proper attention to the schedule just now,
[06:59:50] you would have noticed that we start an hour earlier tomorrow, so keep that in mind.
[06:59:54] We also will not start the Grand Finals before 3.30.
[06:59:58] So if you have any urgent errands, you can rest assured that 3.30 is the earliest
[07:00:06] the Grand Finals will be able to start.
[07:00:07] And that's, of course, our Grand Finals.
[07:00:09] And in the meantime, there has already been Grand Finals today, not on Dota 2, though.
[07:00:14] We've had a free fire end in an emotional victory record breaking game against Gun Dynasty Lion 1.
[07:00:23] And they are the first non-South-East Asian team to take a victory here for the Esports World Cup.
[07:00:29] Truly a great achievement.
[07:00:31] And they were allowed to place their key on the totem in their ceremony.
[07:00:37] But they are not the only team crowned champions today.
[07:00:42] We also had in MWI Vitality be the champion here in back-to-back victories, incredibly important for
[07:00:50] Team Vitality because this is also given them that win that they need to have if they want to do well
[07:00:56] in the club championship. Thousand points on the board, we'll see where Vitality takes that one
[07:01:01] and Vitality was able to beat Navi in those grand finals, so congratulations to them as well.
[07:01:09] Now, if you think you know who's going to take tomorrow's series, you can have a shot
[07:01:16] at it.
[07:01:17] You can go to esportsworldcup.com.com and get your prediction in.
[07:01:21] There are also tons of quests and activities to do on that site, so make sure to check
[07:01:25] that out.
[07:01:26] But maybe you've already put in your votes and you voted wrong today.
[07:01:31] That's very unfortunate for you.
[07:01:32] I think today was very cool.
[07:01:34] I think maybe, LaCrosse, we were expecting a little bit more of a back and forth in BV vs Vici this morning.
[07:01:42] Yeah, especially with the way Vici played, the way they came here, kind of being in the middle of the group
[07:01:48] and then eliminating one dub, then eliminating one more team as well.
[07:01:52] It just felt like they powered up, especially yesterday, but today it seems like they kind of got figured out
[07:01:58] because they played so many matches, there was a lot of information on what they did.
[07:02:02] The TikTok also, like the heroes, maybe the other teams also watched some of these TikToks and reels and got ideas
[07:02:09] what to build against them because it was very effective and so far
[07:02:13] we only had one series shiver that was 2-1 in the playoffs, which is a bit of a surprising one considering like the
[07:02:20] competition, or maybe it comes down to
[07:02:22] teams being kind of equally
[07:02:25] matched in this one because you make a mistake the teams are at so high level that they're gonna punish them.
[07:02:30] Yeah, the teams were definitely evenly matched in our second semifinals after you.
[07:02:35] Anyway, I mean it's a shame to not have it be repeated tomorrow, but I do think that we are going to get a very similarly matched skill level, I would hope, in the grand finals tomorrow.
[07:02:46] And maybe team are a team that you can never write off, even if they don't look like the strongest in the tournament and just look like, you know, a second third place team.
[07:02:53] Sometimes on that day they can wake up and just prove everyone wrong.
[07:02:57] Well, thank you so much both of you for your thoughts today. That was it from us from today
[07:03:03] Our semi-finals are done. We know our two finalists
[07:03:06] We know who's going for the third fourth place tomorrow
[07:03:10] So two series coming your way tomorrow an hour earlier than today
[07:03:13] Looking forward to that one already, but we will not leave you empty-handed of course
[07:03:17] We'll see you tomorrow, but for now enjoy the STC recap of the day