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Tundra vs Playtime - Group stage Hub Dreamleague S29 - Official co-stream w/ Pieliedie
05-18-2026 · 3h 51m
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I felt cohost the cost what's it been like being promoted to cohost it's been good
I felt like I was not working at all and now I have to work really hard being the normal analyst
In this year all you have to do is pretend. Yeah
What are you talking about? It's a lot of work slacks taught me the greatest cohost of all time
You have to work very hard
Now I'm glad you're here. We didn't get the chance to work with this guy and even shivered like so
I know we've done this tournaments that we work together, but we actually don't kind of sucks. Maybe today we find out why they do that
No chemistry
Are you doing Kizu I'm doing pretty good. Yeah, we've got we've got the tablet. We've got this one
So my day
phenomenal, thank you
You get access to that we got a couple of new ones out of there
you've probably already seen so you'll probably see that during the entire day
and this could be an entire day because we've got a three-way tie and the way
three-way tie is sold oh we'll get to that but it's like we've got a lot of
best of ones coming your way before we do that though obviously for these teams
it's very important that they win the tiebreaker actually for some more
important than others because it's a final stop for the EPT there's a lot of
points on the line and after today we can already assign a bunch of points
Because we need to see some teams potentially after this group stage
Well fight there's a chance mathematically. I'm sure I didn't do the mass shiver
This is make or break for some of these teams
Some teams that went through very happy about that, you know, not a series of course on there looking
Incredibly good. Niku we keep saying it one of the best players. We young player. We want to do while we want to ascend
He's doing it. It's good. He's really doing this guy's good
He's getting his team into the top 12 actually can we bring this leaderboard back? Is that a is that a possibility?
Do we have the technology we do yesterday when I saw this playtime was still on here?
Because a bunch of points already made it out of groups that they already got some guaranteed points playtime is not out of the groups
Yeah, it's potentially so they are not on the air. Yeah, they got the motive
Tundra an extreme already guaranteed through why don't they just why don't they just roll over just let them get
Please, for me, it's also like Miles and OG are still like top 10, like I haven't even seen these two teams like do well in a while.
Well, they're not here. I know. I understand, but they might just, you know, they're hoping that the other teams that can overtake them just take the L and suck.
So hopefully for them, you know, that happens, but maybe it doesn't.
Maybe it doesn't. Yesterday we saw some of them too. We have a couple of theories that we wanted to highlight to you guys because
Then we I will say we've something we've had some crazy crazy games and in this
Craziest Beast mass performance pretty much. No, this is the game one actually so it wasn't the craziest craziest because
In this game all he needed to do is not cast or which
Rubik did steal and prolonged the game for good like 50 minutes pretty much because this was a
a 70 minute game. Look at the lead. Look at the lead right now. This game turns into
like a 70 minute clown fiesta. And they got a bigger lead still after this. At some point
it wasn't like 40 something K? Yeah. I mean this game was, it had everything. You, like
we thought it was over after like 20 minutes that it went to like a 70 minute show. And
this is the one LaCos talked about because Miero had a 10 minute helm of overlord. So
the whole map just exploded for Nigma. And in this game, they had no chance. Like this
game was done so within the first eight minutes. I was also surprised that they
decided to give them snapfire in that first game because we saw GBK earlier.
Oh this was the funniest part actually they forgot they were pushing the high
ground and then they realized we left the camera on Katteomi and he was like
guys we don't have ages so they went from this spot walked into the Roche
pit picked up ages and then came back. Well you leave the ages in the pit for
very long time does the timer take down? Yes. Professional e-sports athletes by the way getting
paid. People are saying that they have too high of a salary. People on Reddit are saying that for a
good reason they can't even pick up the ages. It doesn't it doesn't take down but when when
Roche respawns it instead he spawns like it goes away. So technically you can't wait too long.
Technically you can't wait too long but you can't wait a little bit. You can't if you can somehow
defend the roast it or everyone in the game forgets it works everybody in the
game for guessing I mean that's a strategy we have now be an extreme
also another series that we'd like to highlight here what a god tier performance
from me who I'm gonna steal this one because yeah I was watching like I'll
go back and I'll watch replays from player perspective I was trying to watch
this from a maze perspective yeah and I was so impressed with me who in both of
the games that I just kept looking to his like to see the absolutely cool shit
that he was doing like legitimately this guy is the best player in this entire
in this entire lobby like it looked like he was smurfing in both of the games
he carries seems so incredibly hard I think you also got to give credit to
extreme gaming their choke potential is through the roof in a lot of situations
they had like some sassy moves I gotta say I mean like as much as you praise
me because I agree I like this guy a lot especially on Kaz and Invoker I'm in
game 2 on Kez, it's like he was playing a pub. Like he shows, he goes to the enemy triangle,
takes a watcher, and then keeps farming so they're just being killed.
You know why he was Kez game 2? Because he sees a guy style on him so hard with Kez the
first game. It's ego. He's got to show he's the Kez guy too. I'm the Kez master, but you
can't.
He's not the Kez master.
You can't. Like legit, in that game, the next game, Niku was styling on him as Invoker,
where he was going to like tether to and stuff like that on the Kez because you
could tell there was something going on there some like weird like Kez like he
knows yeah like EP in competition I was gonna say the actual you know measuring
they took the rulers out you know why the camera to you and I started
but Navi is already through they're already guaranteed upper bracket just
like a bunch of other teams. There is one upper bracket slot left remaining in hub B,
upper grabs. Everybody is in that is going to play in this tiebreaker. But one team again
will start in the upper bracket, Extreme Tundra and playtime were in a three way tie and that
means we got some best of one's play out potentially multiple times. We are going to start things
out with Extreme versus playtime and the winner of that is going to go up against Tundra and
then the one who hasn't gone up against Tundra will go up against Tundra after that.
I love the Lago, I'm sorry.
And it is, I mean, if a team wins twice...
Yeah, this is very...
Then it's over.
It's recycled.
It's a recycling sign.
Recycling?
We do that here in Sweden.
We do.
Yeah, they re-recycle a lot, because I also became Swedish when I came here.
I also know what Majolke is as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did the...
I love Majolke in the morning, it's really good.
It is. Especially in coffee or maybe some any of your breakfast tea.
Every time I go to the grocery store to buy milk I end up with some goddamn yogurt.
And it puts me bejolk on it. And it's yogurt. What is this country doing?
Freaking yogurt? Sorry.
It's actually quite good.
But either way, we have predicted the last few days, we're going to predict the days well.
the cost
the same graph is yesterday is it not you know how to change the we're just
recycling
we're recycling graphics
dinkins
my strategy is working very well thanks to you
are you doing the opposite of him
apart from when aurora is playing in which case i will join him on going with
aurora
this is cool for me because i get to see what if i was
like not lost
where i would be at
this is nice for me
I respect Tsunami, though, for his playtime believer.
He believes in Frank.
My boy Frank in the off-lane Tsunami.
He's got his eyes on him.
Frank fan.
That makes sense.
Like, he's been following him for years.
I don't think Frank knows that Tsunami's been following him.
There's been restraint orders there.
What I want on him now?
Yeah.
A serious question, though.
How can everybody be so confident in Tundra?
I don't know.
It's time.
Like, they can't be, like, because they showed some,
like, really bad performances.
When you talk about Tundra, you always expect them to do well at Malakia, they bombed out, maybe this is what broke them, not having pure during Malakia, and then they just, I don't know, they're just going to recover from this, and then they started to play bad again, and I think the streak is going to end here.
They talked about it like Ari said it in the interview. They're just playing bad and sometimes it happens because well
He mentioned the standard situation that you were talking about
But yeah, I feel like sometimes it just just happens like you just yeah
But why is everybody believing that it's we'll stop happening cuz hey because
They've done this before I feel like people are just looking at the data
Yeah, right they're looking at the history like thunder has had bad performances in group stages
Some people didn't mean wake up production shows it's for dust
I mean, the tsunami really didn't choose playtime.
Yeah, I hate it.
I hate it.
But all the...
I mean, for Tundra, at least they're the team with, like, the highest ceiling.
And the more I watch Xtreme, the more I lose faith in them.
Like, they do well for, like, 50 minutes, and then they just somehow find a way with a 30K lead to just throw the game.
Playtime, I think they can do it, but they also need to beat both teams, so...
It's difficult.
Playtime has the momentum factor.
I think they're feeling pretty good.
Also, looking at their matches, the big issue that they have, historically speaking, and historically, I mean, like, last two tournaments,
tournaments is when the enemy team is farming and choking them out, they just don't know
what to do. They just stand together on some high ground and hope the enemy team fights
them. And if you do fight them, they beat you. Like, they're really good at fighting.
There's also a lot of more data on the team. You want to know how many games they played
on PlayThem because they were South American. Rijik, DreamMalachia, they were also playing
qualifiers for this Dream League, another playing Dream League, plus another tournament
as well. So they played in 7.41. They played 190.
Oh, yeah, they're trying to compare to extreme gaming who played 59.
That's the biggest difference. And you can see it in their gameplay,
that they've got a lot of practice, because what I was saying is not true anymore.
From what I've seen, they're actually really good at smoking and sweeping across the map.
You know, one guy teething somewhere, and then there's a smoke across the map. These like
smart is it cuz you on the call I'm on camera yeah he's talking
he's my name is my name is my cat play time more like pray time
you need to do a stupid laugh after we are gonna focus on our first series is
gonna be played there versus first extreme and I think that's right you
you've got some extra information to tell us about it.
Definitely. As the tech analyst, I've done my homework,
because we need to look at the two teams.
So for playtime, I looked at some of the stuff that they do
and the heroes that they pick.
So here you've got the graphic, as of course,
you know, one of Jenkins' favorite players,
because he is kind of weird, a bit of an animal.
Sometimes you can't tell if he's good or bad.
The Skullfield Knicks assassin, undefeated,
he kind of pugs on this hero.
Then you've got the Witch Necro.
This hero overall is so good.
Honestly, more Necro might see it here and they L Misho Misho Misho Enchantress six games 66% win rate
You know pretty good. Maybe they can bust off some of those but then on the contrary
we've got extreme gaming because
They've got long game shiver. They're very long games. Their average match duration is 50 minutes
I don't know a recent tournament where a team has played that long, but they lose
exactly that's the problem not only do you have long games but apart from the
one that's really two hours one hour forty seven like diabolical like that's
and the thing is to sometimes you get like oh we're playing all these long
games so you know something is kind of wrong and then four of them you lose as
well it really gets into your head you like we can't really like clear out
games where we're ahead but when we're behind we're not the good at making
comebacks I think they're in their own head right now because they're not
playing good at all so you're telling me if extreme goes to one hour 30 minutes
That's what we're hoping for today 90 minute my boy. Oh man. He's gonna do it
The night has been a game, you know considering you GG'd out at 20 minutes
It's crazy their average game time is at 50 because if you take those outliers out it might even be closer to an hour
Yeah, which is unheard of we had an interview with Miero yesterday
We asked him about his game against extreme game in their series and he's like yeah
We wanted to practice some late game as well and yesterday when they were playing against
Nigma Galaxy when the game also went 70 minutes.
So maybe there's something to it.
Maybe teams do prefer to, you know, push it into the late game and have the pure chaos
just involve pure.
about the long intro I'm still gonna intro a bit more
I feel like I said I'd say I don't like this
but try to figure it out because we are not giving you the bad one
Gorksy who feels lonely, no name, Bulgarian, Archie
Mark Tricks, Makarov, Sudskonten, Ike, and more
I mean that's probably where the games last so long
Is he supposed to be a tetanus at any count if he's always getting bad luck?
Zolt and everybody else, hello
That's at least one of the reasons
I'm still eating a bit?
I have like four how early Mr. Hero is taking
I have like 10 bites left and the full spice
I guess I've seen he's done fairly well
Yeah, I was like he's had some more games but
I'm not working today, Aries.
No games for you today.
Let's see if Pyre is down to watch some Tybur here, let's see.
We're eating, we're making some Thai food, some Pad Thai, and a little bit spicy chicken as well.
A little spicy, huh?
I said this guy starts getting a salary from playtime and he just
I said I wasn't the shop they asked me how spicy do you want it I said spy I
said medium spicy and she said spicy spicy okay and I was like whatever
but now I'm sweating a little bit like you're kind of doing everything you're
setting the tempo and you have to carry the game too it's not easy well for this
game you hear me say medium
a little bit unless it's Rubik of course but unlikely we got extreme gaming with
their first pick going for the rubik playtime instantly answered it with the
i keep getting misunderstood i'm already in terms of the band nothing really
that stands out maybe the the pango and a respect band on the nts tinker there as
well this is good they didn't first place his hero so everything is interest
rubik wow tinker earning first band as well nothing to say still getting
respect maybe you remember a couple of tournaments
to go that when NTS doesn't die in the first six or seven minutes they pretty much win
NTS doesn't die the first six or seven minutes. I want to point out can we go back to Scofield's
camera please because I have a stat you guys did your research. You guys are mad otherwise
you're making it so spicy yeah he has a 100% win rate when he doesn't have a shirt on. I fucked up.
This is not looking that only happened once and a hundred percent winner
achiever a little bit of spice the vibes are
off preparing for my he's got to be a little too
professional thinking about that when i was there today
in flow state when you were preparing for a
when i said i would eat uh habanero pepper whatever it was right
one of the strong ghost pepper whatever it was the the strong one
if playtime wins ti this year someone's got a contest so i'm preparing take your
shirt off your blood flow is going to be faster your
Vessels are going to undialate
Get that blood to your brain quicker
Get that undilation going
Not just to your brain, you need it in different parts of your body as well
The heart, the hands are very important
Yes
Carolina Reaper, no dialing I think
Thank you for that, we got Viper and B-Spot
That was good
And a draw ranger man, X-Trin Gaming is one of the few teams that has been making draw ranger work
What happened? Well
It's a pretty fucking heavy channel. I challenge though, so I'm glad it won't happen
Who do we cool?
Hayden thinks of some games. I think it's orc T for $3
She's in a lot of the games and all man, dude. He's just hitting creeps
He is the most funny carry player to watch in terms of he sees a fight that like doesn't look good
even remotely if it just doesn't the first two seconds doesn't start what he's
out he just he fees right out it's it's something to behold that reminds me of
all the nightfall like he would do that respect army immediately keep these to
the triangle the fight is over and axe phoenix a lot of the mageo between these
new rubik as well I think axe became much more popular because Axe Phoenix
pretty strong duo. Playtime I have to show two cores here. Let's see. It's not that easy.
I feel like it's really hard drafting if you don't first pick or second phase a core.
Now you have to reveal two cores. A lot of shits bam.
It's much easier opening with a broken core or second phase.
It doesn't matter if someone lose all, they just go low bracket.
Yeah, honestly this tiebreaker is pretty low stakes.
It's between one team goes upper bracket, two teams go lower bracket.
I think that's it.
It's more of a, it's not as intense as an elimination.
Honestly, I wouldn't have minded if they did this by like score or something.
This tiebreaker is...
It's interesting, but it's still not like...
I don't personally think it's that necessary at the cost.
Two lifers, one life, not important. It is?
Of course. I mean, that's why they're playing it.
But to the audience, chat wants to see the love. They want to see someone eliminated.
Necropos, let's go.
Oh
You pick necro kind of earlier to course the counter
Maybe draw already. I don't know
Mweta is great
It's not a good pick, man.
That's what I ever did.
Koshima don't tell me.
Kortan and Orc take rest if you're tired.
I'm not that tired, we're chilling today.
I'm playing against my spicy food one day.
then you're fine. I don't know if I like it. I would be able to pay if you had like some
saving support if you had some earning master, shenpo demon, like snowball, but you could
easily get 3% if problem is you don't have that much.
Let's get pie in here. The pie breakers. Enchantress, your ember strid is damaged over time.
Woo! Spicy, spicy. I'm the 50 minute GG if we're lucky. Lucky enough to see it.
the pool that's the hero I would want to play it's not TV yeah we can do a quick
reddit check we can do that in between the series see what happened because any
drama well not for army he plays it not for this game yeah you think this is
good about this one looks spicy I like I like this I like this article this is
this one we need to make a take that's all scary that game yeah yeah he has
really been enjoying the dollar to sellers too high for order sustained
Definitely gonna have a take on that later.
Definitely.
That's gonna be fun.
Clock Pock, thanks for the 80 months. Thank you.
afraid of anything in this game the lane might not might be annoying
done 80 ember ban i mean so monkey ban against ember that's such a rare spawn
so what are they gonna pick against ember good laner against ember spirit and
literally no stuns i like the quapa i think quapa is good
classic snap snap even stronger against ember and honestly can't deal with the
what's up i'm sorry how do you hold how do you hold by
We're getting better, it's getting better, is that a hello?
How do you hold the middle of my pick?
What did you think about the snapire?
Good pick?
No, I just...
What is it?
What is it?
Tell me, guy?
The OJ?
No, not OJ.
Orange juice.
Orange juice?
Get the guy who smashes through the...
Oh, oh yeah.
It's the Kool-Aid guy.
Oh, yeah, it's the Kool-Aid guy cool
It's not very Swedish
Broom
This isn't PM isn't this an easy game for play time. I'm not crazy. I mean it looks like a
It's only that is like good extremely nice bro. I mean Rupic is also good theoretically, right?
If he steals a split, I mean that's a cap.
I mean it happens all the time, I've seen it happen.
I mean I think mid lane might be really stompy though, nothing to say might take over the game.
But I like Radiant trap better here.
Yes.
There are questions, like if you can survive, if the Phoenix does okay.
It might be hard to run into Phoenix backed up by Axe.
Even though they have the perfect run-up, he doesn't run in with playtime, you know?
He has to bash with tanky healers, and extreme out of one of the most insane, like, standard round, you know?
True Florida residence-type lineup. Like, running into a Tyrablade, six illusions.
Like, globs, and then an axe, just waiting to counter any shit. It can be rough.
Yeah, I like, yeah, and play time a little bit more creative I guess.
If I have a show, I was watching this this morning and I thought this was a beautiful,
I never could have said it myself, I'm sure, watch this, I had a take, I mean I was watching
this as I woke up today guys, what do you think?
I was watching a little bit of Ace guides, you know, because I wanted to like see what
he thought about Centaur farming patterns to reach 16,000 MMR.
By the way, just for context, Ace is not even 13k anymore, but the guide is reached 16k.
Alright, let's see, I was watching a little bit here, this one I like the best.
This one I like the best.
I'm watching
This one is golden this one's golden
but then when it gets like hyper late game and Necro has a double reaper site with the talent level 25
Necro is insane in the late game too
and then find out how this one game will play out
it's about to be a new take right here brother
that is like is this a new take?
holy shit, maximizing my gold per minute
but before you exit from this can you go to his newest video and listen to the voice?
yeah the voice and then
same improvements
yeah yeah the AI voice now is much better
it's like
listen to this
I know, it's really good.
Yeah, I mean, your market on the new tape might just, you might be pushed out.
Yeah, I might be pushed out by tech itself.
It's all.
tech is taking over my text it got better and better throughout the videos i was watching
like a video in the middle and he sounds australian but now he sounds dangerous first the first
voice was better anyway it's not bad for low mr people yeah but just go to chat gpt then
and ask like you're gonna get the exact same fucking thing how is that content you want
push towards you. Sounds like you're a bit of a hater.
Hater, gator. Hater, gator. I mean, the best part is that he responds with the commons
with AI itself and it's not hated, but yeah. I mean, the commons are all the ones I looked
at. Yeah, look at this one. Dragon creeper is back to neutral camps. It's really a special
sauce for the offline ace and other pros do it without Dom or micro doing this reliably
comes overcomes just about any matchup as a very human comment first of all and
they comment yeah honestly it's one of those things that's way more impactful
than it looks dash dash most people underestimate how much length control you
get from just knowing your pull times I mean come on he didn't even remove the
dashes bro
This is what we call peak efficiency, this is when you're half human, half robot, like
you don't even read the comments, it's control C, control V, response like I'm a YouTuber
that does notative content, bang, bang, control W, gammy, we're done.
What the fuck is going on?
Wait, what's happening here?
They swapped the lanes or what?
What's going on?
Yeah, I was juiced up in that too.
No, it was him.
Yeah, ancient top.
Interesting.
I wonder why he wants to sit there instead of in the safe lane, but yeah.
So bot lane acts against Neko is like unplayable for acts, you can't do anything.
Neko uses his natural tankiness to float far in the wave and maximizes gold per minute.
Yeah, he could also be in the area.
I think so.
Ooh, that's a dirty, lofty first one.
Yeah, that's bad actually, that's bad.
Explain should have a lot of success down here. I think I don't know for me both look either one
I feel like it's gonna be very good down there right with the inch or the hood
Wait for that. I mean he's losing but it's still fine
This can turn into a horrendous nap like you can feed
Yeah, like if I look at he ish, but he can't I feel like it's impossible do okay 68 damage plus 35%
Dude he almost has like 90 damage per last hit, it's like I'm playing.
I mean okay, it's just like even if you 1.5k go behind, as long as your level is fine.
Yeah maybe you're right, maybe it's not that bad.
Like the snap will start feeding his ass off from there, you know what I'm saying.
Mm-hmm.
I'm not gonna do anything.
Frank, we're gonna stop her up here.
Frank, the tank.
Frank, not getting to tank at all.
He's struggling.
But it should get better level 3, I think that's when Broomessor doesn't really get
affected by TBA anymore.
And plus the edge creep.
I almost lost that panna, I could throw it in bed
My lips are on fire
I guess his idea of playing edge like this is you lane to level 3
and then you don't, you're like so easy to wrap up mid, you know, then you kind of start playing their jungle
I can see it, because the brim master can't even see it, like he will be double out farm, but it will be fine
any late six then the engine can come and open
you see magoo? like he's taking doing it
yeah no, magoo is a great player
oh my god is he gonna kill that?
he's dead or not? oh this is a disaster for a snap
yeah, this is a disaster
ah yeah boys, so this is why I played
this is why I played the engine there
in the off-lane
we wrote it to the mid getting a more efficient angle
on the gank, you do actually get a more efficient angle on the gank, don't you?
Yeah, yeah, and there is
And you have a Chad like Frank the tank on offline who doesn't need no pause for you
He's chilling look at him. Oh, he changed his camera angle. You can't see his fingers anymore
He actually changed it lame. That was a signature. You know seeing that
Now we don't get to see it
Oh my goo my goo my goo. Oh, yeah, that's a tip moment right there for my goo
That was kind of dirty.
Down and dirty for sure.
Oh, I may be dying here.
Yeah. It's looking bad right now.
Oh, yo, yo, yo, yo.
My plate time!
Plate time!
Right, I'll meet you in the game.
Yeah.
Bot lane, how's bot lane? Ah, Neko 30 lasted something.
What can they do to stop him?
I mean, Axe is doing okay, right?
Yeah, of course, of course.
I'll just call it on me
My goo, maybe oh, no, mr. My goo
My my goo my my goo is so close to being a good
so close
Okay, I mean sure, you know
Yeah, we take that. Skullfield? What is he doing right now?
He's dragging the creeps into the tower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a nasty play.
I've not seen that being done with, oh my god, AC, AME Esports.
He's in trouble here.
Luckily, Xnova got the Legion Shield. I mean, why does this AME exist?
It's so stupid.
How do they already have? Who's been jungling?
Yeah, I mean, he got some from the Neutrals dying twice, but I'm surprised he already has it, yeah.
My G.O.A. is 6, okay, now we're fine. Like, now...
Like, the danger is already over mid.
This matchup has already turned.
Yeah, no, no. Nothing to say it's getting run at now.
He's globbin' up the hoodwink, but...
Nothing to say it's probably dead here.
Oh, Skullfield!
You take that trade any day, and Skullfield survived a little bit too long.
A TP 2 supports mid versus one. Look at the L.M.E. show.
This is why I play Ancient Offlane.
Slammed the courier.
Oh my god, Axe just got the ball.
That feels so bad.
Neko didn't even see the...
Yeah, I man-filled him.
Wait, how soon is he 6 on Frank?
Can he kill him?
He should be really close.
According to my calc, he's like 2-3 creeps off only.
My calc, but I just vibe.
Dude, I see the Amisho, that's a yogurt angle right there.
There's a cam. That's an unexpected cam I'm going through. Oh my god, Necro just died.
No way. This is so bad. They're getting smashed.
If you didn't need the mid, they were dead.
Way more, way more.
Necro is also getting a Steve in the game. That's why I felt really, like I was watching the draft for, really turned off about the
EV pick didn't make sense. I was like, okay, here comes the muerta or something right against necro. That makes sense
nothing
What carries can buy
This all wisdom by the way we were I mean, yeah we were muerta is good
What else is good against them if you can get an A
They're looking for the die, they don't have the greatest way to push
I feel like this is why Necrop carry is kinda broken
He doesn't really care counters that much if he has a free lane
The free lanes are just too impactful, you know what I mean?
They're gonna smash them everywhere here
Exnova surviving a long time though, being annoying
He's gonna put the split
He probably has to split
Oh my god, he didn't have to, but yeah, maybe.
I mean, I guess why he did it, it's like, spooky as well.
Yeah, the urn, he could have just urned him.
But, you know, it's fine.
Just want to be careful in case
some mommy pops a meta and hits him once.
Yeah, it was like a ribbick to see then, like one bolt,
like that.
Where's Frank, the tank?
He ran towards mid, then he ran back again.
That's weird.
Yep, they're having a little playtime with Xtreme.
It's a little bit too easy
Now this game is so hard to play these are not just yours to especially and she like she was the
Six
Yeah, she will barely die from this
This is what he has been here is a classic
Yeah, you want a little bit of a wits wits went in the way to deep in the power
Oh, he got the scythe!
A scythe from death coming out.
Kutush.
I still think you get the stack for that scythe by the way.
That's kind of nice.
Can't really dive him. Rubik dipping in, but that's fine.
They're happy.
Alright. One kill.
Washington Dolores in the LSS Necro.
It's a bit of a playtime special, they've won twice with it before, but yeah, Necrocarry, they watch my stream, you know how it goes.
They have a really beautiful Necrobrush. They have both, they have Enge to take the Outer Towers, and then you can Siege with Bru.
The Bru Siege, I'm not convinced it's actually like that good though, are you sure?
No, it's really good. Like if you have items. But I want to say, you don't even have to Siege, you can die too.
Like, Amber, Nesca's died the base.
It's not a lot of damage.
Because they can get in and then they can get out.
But Anshu will take care of lecture once, for sure.
Maybe even tier 2's if you're not defunding.
Because a classic Necro game is you're 20k net worth.
You're kind of clowning around. You're like, what should I buy?
and then again you're still on for too long dark magoo in trouble
the remnant in 5 oof he's close but no probably fine
yeah estimate frustrating for the XG they needed that kill
and now he gets the remnant back and the frank the tank is taking the tower
they didn't even respond to that no TP's mid so they're gonna take out our towers on this
I'm not sure about the sieging and later towers it grew like is that really gonna work? I don't see it
Like the sieges you kind of dive them, they back off and then you're here
Or it's like Gigalate giving you a refresher and you're here
Like if you have AC and you're level 8 team with ag and grew
Thoughts on betting on the other games?
I think it's super beneficial being Jawa, it's like childhood friend if you're doing it, otherwise, be careful.
Don't gamble what you can't afford to lose, my friend.
It's stupid.
That's not the one.
There's a streamer stamping games out there.
Yeah, stamping.
Like, they've winged it, it's quite high as well.
No, no, no, don't encourage them, don't encourage them.
I'm gonna get blamed if they lose and they're gonna keep all the money if they win.
It's not a good deal, not a good deal.
follow that and we should get a bit of the proceeds when you're winning it's in
the better the word inevitable in the next time I mean I kind of soft stamp
play them before I said they would win right I didn't stand but I'm not always
right you know it's hard though that is not easy to predict always anything can
Like a game where one team has a way better draft they can just lose because they lost four bounties in the first one
And they tilt it a little bit, you know, like and you were sure they were gonna win
There's also this all was this
Spirit are playing playtime, right?
Just never trust playtime to
End it. Yeah, exactly. You don't know they might just at any high ground
They might fuck up a little bit and then like oops. Whoops
You already applied a fair amount of pressure, you can wait until those big core items...
That's all I think you paste it into chat you can make a more clear
No, that was that was perfect. It's still hard to understand
They didn't fuck up I could have fucked up saying it that was okay
Then it basically anything needs to win twice in a row that's all
Yeah.
This is one of those rare games where everyone feels good, I feel, which is great.
Everyone's here.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
What do you say though?
No, it's usually like, it might be the mid laner that's kind of crushed, like you're
still winning, but everyone is hitting their timings.
No one is like feeling bad on what they have to do in the game, like everyone is getting
to farm.
Yeah.
Everyone has timings.
It's like so easy to play this game.
Oh, from now on, yeah, for sure.
It's simple.
Especially if you pick up an axe, you would show your offlaner like that.
We've seen playtime that's not that simple.
I'm pretty sure Skopjeal is like level 6 or 7 next to him, for example.
Try to get some kills for something to say.
Skopjeal is right next to him though, kind of protecting Wits.
Perhaps he's gone out on an epidemic.
Oh, they misread it.
You have a pretty good match for the rest.
They misread it.
It was close.
He's a bit up now.
I mean, I'm just farming pretty fast, but he's pretty fucking under farmed. Honestly, I don't even know how the network diff is not higher
It's looking grim. They're tipping in they see them behind the enemy. Oh, it's cold field
Necrocyte coming here. Give me that. Give me that juice. Give that juicy snap our ass
Parma stack achieved
Those stacks
They used to be way better, right?
Yeah.
They did.
They did.
I don't know.
They didn't have to reload.
Yeah.
Like if you got a lot of kills, let's say when you got like six kills, people would have
heard the agg.
Yeah, it would have been fine.
But nowadays, they're so much you can't do that.
Not the same amount of region.
vessel build this game yeah I still see our issue with playtimes lineup that's
why I would be apprehensive of stamping same idea like you said against spirit
will they really be able to end this game like it's potentially they fuck up
and this goes a bit long now I'm not as worried everyone there's a reason that
did get through yeah it is the only thing that really like
Sharks on him, later on is this 25 snap
But like clears his blue lanes, but that's so far away
For level 12 Phoenix with Ake, I mean with that Sharks
He's doing pretty good
That's like what they have
I mean they have a few tricks, it's not huge
Feels like Axe ult
F1
F buy
and I go the new
double curio? I think he knew it
yeah, unless you got searing signet it's too good
searing signet's OP, yeah it's really good
I guess the curio signet is kind of nice
there's a big go here if it works
magoo, then he gets light, there we go, xg
finally, finally, in front of enemy tier one, that's Balzy
Finally blink blade mail. It's funny people stopped doing blink blade mail the last year on x and then we saw like
You know come the pie. I mean the lanctery pie
We saw a lot of stuff coming out now. Everyone's just back to the standard blink blade mail
But this was considered a bad hero when people like for years so many years access
Consider a bad hero when you all you did was blink blade mail
Because it's so like one dimensional and if your blink gets cancelled you're useless
at some point you don't even do damage it's just I don't know what convinced
this is it but there's Kuro into bubble works it does it does it's a legendary
mythical concept we haven't seen it yet we almost saw it one game it was play
time that almost did it tomorrow
I've been pretty impressed with Frank too, I do have to say.
He plays with very specific heroes, but he plays them quite well.
Frank did tank.
His enigma, I don't think he's played here as much or even at all, but knowing how to
play with him.
Um, it has to be able to dodge this.
Yeah, hit it.
I don't like to smoke very much.
No, no, no.
He's in a good angle there, and they're not going to go look there.
It is good.
Oh, there we are.
They won't die, but they got a counter kill.
They're gonna get to me.
Oh my god, they got snapped. No, not snapped. She doesn't have blink.
Chain stun, W there, why not?
Oh my god, the panda baby.
That's a problem.
I'm gonna call him a little bit of a derachio player from understeer.
Yeah, indeed.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
Uh-huh.
And then I'm killed.
And so the map is a little bit annoying for TB, you can steal the TB illusions with
Entry, right?
That's pretty annoying.
It's not as bad as it used to be, because you don't like send the TB illusions away
alone and they're really strong.
But you can even do it in teamfights a bit.
And it's to say that Necros is holding his Curio.
What is he holding?
How do you hold the Curio?
Yeah, that's kind of insane.
Is he thinking about bubbling right now?
He had signetting, no way.
I'm pretty sure.
How is he not signetting?
That's so good.
It's like the best one for a curio early
It's the tribe an oil hidden oil sponsor for nigma and for gambling I wish I really wish
I watch nigma for free
Oh, again on the catch, on the counter go though, Dark Magoo, oh my god, Dark Magoo,
whoa, no split you right.
Frank is dead, but the problem is Nekro doesn't care about anybody here, he's running them
down hard, Scythe and dead, wow, every good situation turns into a bad situation.
They can't do anything about his Necrophos!
He just turns up and he cleans up every single time!
Right, all things considered, not too bad!
Because you can see the difference with Nigma in the next G, right?
So Nigma terribly would have been there, too.
And I don't know how much for me.
Yes, yes, I think so.
I thought you could.
We would have taken this fight. It's true.
I don't know, we'll see.
Actually, we'll give themselves another chance for this TheraBlade later.
Because not like, sure, this wasn't amazing,
but now you've got a bunch of experience on Phoenix.
Terriblade got space to farm
He's got something more greedy
And yeah, at least there's something good
Yeah, it's the same thing
I was just making it if you might go like really greedy, but it's not necessary
Hark's good here
Hark dags, he tried to go for it as fast as he can
He's got an FCMI margin at a 21-minute mark
Yeah, I mean at this point, he doesn't matter if his other calls died in this fight first
Because there's more XP for him
In my opinion, yeah, I was going to say
In my opinion, he's held the Nultas but over the windlass
And he did, that's good, that's good
Can he take a goddamn new show? Okay. Thank you. There it is
Cheerio'd sign it. Why do you wait?
No, wait so long
Oh big goon. I'm here. They split it up. Let's see if I'm I can find us
No, oh, Monta. Yeah, you know the goat was trying
The fog shot out gork. He said he would he said he would next nickel carry game not yet
not yet
He did say that he did say that in a chat
We'll find out soon boys
Along the we're waiting
I'm already done with the call. He did have his call at the moment, but the thing is, he only gives a tease. He only does it once and then he stops doing it.
So yeah, this is what I was debating if he did Kaia Sanj before the heart, but yeah, he's just...
Why Kaia Sanj? I don't understand.
They are smoked up, looking for play, X-X Sanj?
Yeah.
I have no idea. It doesn't do anything. It literally is not Sanj.
I bet it's not Sanj and Yasha, to be honest.
Yeah, same. I was thinking the same. If Sanj and Yasha is better, if you want to go Sanj, you can just go straight ags, but Sanj and Yasha is fine.
is fine
that's where
kai's hand, oh wits is here, he's gonna spawn out of entrance s
my wits king
the xs is getting scythe
they're burning, they're burning
godlike
I would click on this NECRO if I was like, I'm a NECRO guy, what is going on right now?
Click on him and call it that, make a click on him and call it.
He's like a smart guy and tell Wolf towards the jeans, you know.
And they're walking.
I don't want to play this one anymore.
This.
Get him off.
I'm gonna say he's breaking.
He's really good in NECRO performing.
Finally NECRO getting some love, it was scary.
It was good to see.
People wondering what it would look like if I was in the pro scene.
This would be every game.
Yeah, you might be curious.
You might be curious.
We did this five years ago by boys.
Nobody listened.
Necro's the same era.
Nobody listened, though.
Now they're listening.
Now they're listening.
I mean, Necro was better five years ago.
He might have been better, yeah.
I love searing, seeing it unleashed.
I don't think there's a tier three that's better, so he's going to chill with his aura.
Yeah, because imagine they still had that Vicky B shroud in the direction.
How broken would they have been?
That's so insane.
But yeah, Kai'Sa, he was, yeah.
You were with Refresher, you were just invulnerable.
It was so fun.
I don't know how I didn't win every pub then.
No idea, now that I go back to it, I don't know what they're doing.
But what do we talk about with Necropro?
Yeah, I think, okay, so you didn't buy Kaisange, but I feel like this Kaisange idea, I swear
everybody who buys it, they have like the boomer brain, you know, they don't read what
Kaisange does, they just think it's the old Kaisange from like seven years ago, where
it had like status resistance or something, you know, but it doesn't have it.
It's a good item, but it's just not good on these heroes that want to tank up, it doesn't
do anything for a tank in this case.
It's a good man item, but not tankiness really slow resistance
Maybe maybe but slow resistance is a fake stat
Yeah, just a little bit
Which gap and I'm
They could've, CK aggs could've been on the menu guys, but it's so trash now the CKs have it.
And they made aggs worse funnily enough to be giving too many illusions early.
There we go.
Time wits.
Fogged, I'm waiting.
He's never gonna do it.
He's gonna have shot me out by.
I guess not.
We're wits.
Alright.
Can't really stop him here.
What's the angle?
watch in this
you like
just waiting at the bruce
yeah
the sky
this is like a stubborn armor game
where he's not calling gg but he's not even trying to defend
he's just basically that guy in pubs
that's afk jungle without seeing anything
you know he's giving up but you can't prove it
that would be fun to know how many words you can tell
in this game
nothing i think literally not one word
I think it might in one comment during the gaming station
Yeah, of course
Try to pull
And then he said that Chaunima later on and then he never said anything again
And then even Bonder
Egg?
I got a SkyteG, there's no rush
Wait until that goes off does end up clipping a few of them, but there's no witty wits. They're going in
Oh Sundare yes, uh, yeah, be a little bit careful here
Wits is in there man. I wish he had an axe right now. They'd all be melting
Feel like you fucked up not having eggs
Yes.
Errr...
He bot travels too instead of aggs.
It's fine though.
Long as he doesn't feed here.
Careful with these...
Err no.
They're going.
Whits, Whits, Whits!
Buyback travels too, here we go.
Go again.
Like a race game but faster, that's funny.
Oh, they're sniffing from him.
Yeah, they won't die on his ass.
He's so fast though.
He's um, good angle, yeah. Cinematic.
He stopped chasing.
and if they do it once more, he doesn't have buyback
yeah, well there's your one and there's a lot of things there
but yes, that's true
I'm not impressed they were able to do that to be honest
I'm not gonna get caught outside the base, they've got buybacks
there is still one more fight left in XG
one more fight
has to be the best fight that we've seen from them so far
here at DreamLeap
but there's more left in them
one more side taken, I have meta in like 20 seconds, I'll maybe be back
It's a cool little slit there, is it up soon?
It's up, if you keep going, 50 seconds, there's your weight.
Oh, I see Necroag's, come on, it's like triple his damage over time, at least, in fights.
He's not buying it?
Okay, that's Hanam.
That's literally Hanam.
That's crazy.
I don't know what the hell he's buying.
He's buying like a Shiva or something.
particular i think he did by far the most damage in the fight
laundered bro come in he did they did
but he doesn't have to buy shit this game he can't get away with anything
almost completely scouting everything right up there
very sneaky one
okay let's ask him to me to go discord you want to go come to the other discord
The heroes one yeah, do you want to humiliate me humiliate my humility?
I'm joking yeah heroes. Yeah heroes
Yo blitz what's up? It won't say it closed my doors. I don't wake it's like wheel guy
or what I mean I'm in California so dream league hours are like I'm in
California 3 a.m. that's right yeah last night our game started I landed it like
1030 and then our game started 3 a.m. so I took a one-hour nap then I just drafted
for my bet I was so tired after the game through draft I told my team I'll just
wake up you guys are the one I lost like no team talk good luck bye bye that's
pretty funny actually at least you get kind of a day off today we still got a
like watch the games I guess right that's kind of your job yeah I mean I went
back and watched it and I saw like eight hours later than we've won I was like
great that was against Vichy gaming yesterday I think we watched that one did
not yeah I watched that one yeah that was hype I was hyped about ET because it
It was a good ET pick. It was the first ET we've seen in the event, but that's gonna
fun.
So fucking depressed when we won game one. I was so tired. Or lost game one. I was so
tired.
Oh, you knew what you were in for. At least you guys were already pre-upper bracket then.
So that series didn't matter so much for you anyway, right? Technically.
Yeah. If anything, it would have probably been better versus the Luz, because Navi's
probably easier than Parry, but that's what it is.
Oh, you got Parry?
Oh, good luck, bro.
Oh, good, oh, good, I believe in you.
But did you watch the playtime in the Tari series?
What happened then?
No, no.
I didn't watch it.
I just wrote about it.
Yeah, playtime is legit. They're good.
They've played like some, they've dropped some stats earlier.
They've like, let's say XG had played like 59 games this patch.
I think they have 190 official games this patch.
Like it's, the difference is mental how much they've played.
I think you remember when miles like everyone thought they were like a tier one team. Yes, I mean they played like
Yeah, like all the fires and yeah, you just get strong that way
It actually just makes you better if you're willing to do it because I think the end result was they got burnt out
Yeah, playtime doing this at this point in the year is probably just like worked out amazingly for them
Yeah, they're just all committed to grind
It really does help. The only trick is that burnout points. They will hit it at some point, I'm sure. They can't do this forever.
No way. Absolutely no way. There's no team in history, even the ones that are really grinding.
If you can get away with it, like, holy fuck, you're gonna be good. Cause you're just playing all the time, you know?
You're learning. I know that for, somebody used to tell me a lot of these guys are kind of lazy, but if you're forced to play officials,
Maybe they will, just because they're pretty much good.
Most Dota pros are lazy, I wouldn't say.
It's not all, but most though.
Okay, most is a big word, but a lot of them don't want to fucking...
I mean, nobody wants to do 10-hour days every day.
And I understand that, fuck that.
It's not lazy necessarily, but yeah.
If you have officials, you're gonna be doing that, so...
And then you won't like...
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
Who's the other guy in voice?
blitz it's a team liquid culture
coming straight from california
what so you ran out of shingles or what you can't be in europe anymore
now it's uh...
i just want to see my family
okay i won't get to go home after cuz like
go ahead and get it
get it to your fa- sorry this is funny, getting to your family meanwhile up at four a.m. watching
dota
across the continent
but like tomorrow i'll just hang out with my mom all day
That's nice, that's nice.
There you go.
How good are you at cooking?
I'm like a reasonably good cook, why?
I don't know.
I was thinking, because then you're a Korean, right?
Yes.
Where are you going?
I'm going to ask you one question.
No, no, but then you cook Korean food, right?
Yeah, yeah, I cook a lot of Korean food.
Yeah, that's pretty fun.
I like that.
The fuck is this line of questioning?
I was also wondering what this game is from, where is this going?
No, because I'm mistaken, I don't really...
Like, I can cook okay too, you know, but I don't really...
But who, where did the cooking subject come from?
Where did the cooking subject come from?
It came from my brain, bro.
Oh, okay, I'm sorry.
Is he spicy?
Yeah, no, I guess.
Okay, okay.
Okay, I'll coach you over Discord one day, how to make a Korean dish.
Never go.
It's not hard
There's this like thing called tsundubu it's like spicy tofu soup pretty good
You know who was obsessed with it fucking misery misery would have it like every time we went to California
I see tofu soup. I don't think that's something I would order personally with I think you would like it though
You'd be surprised. I'll try it
If you're in California, or like, I guess Korea or anywhere that might have Korean food, I'll take you to get it.
I have a Korean place I keep ordering from. They do Korean mac and cheese, which is surprisingly good.
Wait, you're a hater? I didn't know. I thought you'd be like, yeah, that's popular. It was good.
No dude, I'm lactose intolerant with shit.
Ah, okay, yeah, RIP.
Okay, Ami, please call it.
Did you see that?
You saw the Ami 50, I mean the Ami early GG against Nigma,
right?
Yeah, is like, shall we no longer coaching this team?
Dude, I don't know, there was a rumor,
but I don't know if anybody's confirmed that rumor,
but there was a rumor.
I think Chala said it's on a stream, on Chinese stream.
He said like, Jhaoi just kind of,
after that series against, they lost against Nigma,
I think he just left or he got kicked.
Really?
Yeah, something, but I don't know if that rumor is true,
but yeah.
There is some shit that Admin said that maps is now their coach.
Oh, okay, there you go.
That's probably true though.
But it might have been for different reasons though.
We don't know that.
Yeah, yeah.
No Jiawei.
That's first time in fucking five years I feel like that guy is not coaching this team.
I have a...
Wait, did I tell the story already?
maybe not. No it wasn't. No it's just like the Chinese like are so... There it is. There it is.
In terms of uh because you know they were at our office like practicing or whatever. I was like
I asked because I like Exnova a lot we get along well you know he's just a friendly guy and I
I remember it was like the middle of Dreamlink and I said if you guys ever want to like talk Dota
You know just like what heroes you think you're good. Why like I told him like we could always like
Hop in a room and just like talk, you know
And he could translate and I you know, I was like well
I wasn't trying to say we know better. I just wanted to help them understand maybe like European perspective a bit
In terms of like heroes and stuff and he is straight up to climb me
He's just like, nah, good, dawg.
He's like, yeah, he's not going to want to do it.
I was like, you don't want to ask?
He's like, there's literally zero chance.
I was like, OK.
Dude, I wonder what kind of shit
Jawa it says behind the scenes.
I bet that guy is fucking based.
He's like, fuck all the Europeans or some shit like that.
Yeah, I think that's how it works.
Yeah, yeah, I bet.
He seems like the kind of the guy, you know, but I don't know.
I'm just saying that we had absolutely, like,
know nothing to gain in this situation in my opinion because like you guys were
doing better than them right so we just won blast right after that for context
mm-hmm so I knew our ideas were good and so I was just trying to like do a
cultural exchange program thing because I really like their players and their
team and all that yeah I figured there's nothing at least it can't help them to
hear us out at least right they don't even have to like be honest if they
don't want to yeah cuz like why would I offer that and then just light it up maybe
they were maybe this is like they thought it was your deception tactic you were gonna
poison their minds with bad metas or something I don't know yeah yeah it's funny I hope one
One day I get to know him a little bit more of the Chinese scene in Dota.
What actually is going on here?
You play FIFA?
Goat?
FIFA?
No.
Why?
Because I played back then, I played, they played FIFA, that's how I, it was like a long
time ago at one of the ESLs.
I played Brazil Amir.
Oh yeah.
Pilot Amir?
FIFA?
Damn.
Did you beat him?
Did you beat him?
Right now.
I'm always in a slay game. I think it says that I have like 500 hours in that game. I bet I have like 150 played.
Is your thing really good? Like your win rate? Your win rate real good?
My win rate is not good.
Okay, that's okay.
I'm slump maxing in that game, I'm just playing.
Okay, that's fair.
I died a slayer. Yeah, I see you online in slay all the time.
I found the way to just win with Ironclad every game, so now I have to find a different class.
But you're A-10, right?
Yeah, I beat all the A-10s.
But now I just grow, like, I want my last six Ironclads in a row, and so I'm just gonna stop playing this character now.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, I think I can win on Ironclad and Silent pretty consistently.
If I don't get that slow, the other ones, they're more successful.
Silent is like the best class for sure.
No idea what you guys talking about.
I don't play this game.
Yeah, he tried, but...
I've heard that like two players actually can be fun.
Maybe I'll try it if I'm bored, I guess.
I'm slated as far.
I'm talking to another coach right now,
and he's like talking to me about how like
matchups are entirely dependent on the type of players you have.
You know because so he was saying that like worst players will just think differently about matchups
Yeah, like no matter how you feel about it
Because like he asked me for advice so I went over the drafts. I was like
This is this situation and he's like that's not the case for us. I was like well, then what do you want from me man?
Where which coach was it is that
I should not share
I remember one famous one, I think it was Mid one and Seb, because it's been a classic
like Darksever's AmphiNage, as we spoke in the day, who's advantage, but you can drag
that to like any matchup, it's like a reason why, I think like how Pahri played their offline,
They'll survive the hard matchup, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they'll just do the tip of the hill, they'll understand.
They'll just understand it deeper than other people.
The most extreme example is Amar, I feel like.
Amar will basically say his hero is good against any hero.
Nah, I don't know, it's a good matchup with Timber, don't worry.
And somehow...
What did you say?
I'm a noxiously good meta for them right now. Oh, yeah for Falcons for sure. Plus they're coming in like
Crisp, you know, definitely most of them at least
Yeah, he solo carried several of those games like actually soloed games they should have maybe lost
Yeah, well, he played like when he can take boom timber and bristle and they're all kind of broken
It's just a playstyle too, I feel like whenever you see them make a mistake or die, they're
so efficient on the others on the map that the goal doesn't move, you know, like it's
fine.
Whatever.
I mean, they are, but you have seen Metas where Amar's heroes are not really working.
It does not look that good.
And especially if Skeeter doesn't have heroes as well, it's just tough out there.
So you just woke up, Liz, or are you still up from earlier?
I'm still up from earlier.
I went to dinner with some people.
Went to dinner with Charlie, you know Charlie?
Of course, Charlie.
And then, and his wife, and then some people from,
they used to work at BTS, like in production.
So we went to dinner in Pasadena.
And then I played some Slay the Spire.
and gotta do that
then I saw that
cause I'm trying to adjust my seat schedule to European times
and then I saw that this was happening
so I just hopped on
so I could stay up for like an extra hour
for like
yeah, I'll try to adjust you up a bit longer
it's okay
this is where we should, this is where, by the truth you can ask Blitz anything
he's gonna be too honest cause he's sleepy
it's good times
yeah, I'm surprised I told the fucking joy story
that's it, it's already working
That one though is just more I wasn't like I don't feel one way or another about that
Just kind of confused that's like because it must be some reason right like cultural or otherwise
Yeah, I mean we have no idea what the Chinese players think we just don't know then you don't know their opinions on certain things
You know, they might all be nigma fans. We don't know
I don't know
Is this the theme of this year?
Yeah
I don't know what else we have.
It looks like a big boss.
It was on a Chinese forum.
Yeah.
This one is really fun.
But China, that doesn't really exist.
It's basically just the XG guys.
The streamers are still big there, I'm assuming, right?
Like SCCC in those guys?
I don't know.
This is let's have a let's have a discussion on this topic. Well, that's a pause because I'm I'm curious
I'm a YouTube guy told me to make a video on this. I mean on the video
But you know have a take on this this can be interesting
Let's you can abstain from this conversation for want because you're toy ball, but it's still gonna be funny
So there was a pretty big reddit post and they've been talking about it the past few days
You know the parkers leaking heroic salaries and it's Dota 2 player salaries are too high for orgs to stain
Apparently there's an article about it, I'm not sure how accurate it is but they're talking
a lot about the article like teammates earning 10k on Heroic and start players 15k and they're
paying 20k for a single bootcamp and they can't afford it.
Avulos left and Heroic left Dota, according to eSports news another Org is exiting and
a few more after TI.
So a lot of orgs are exiting Dota because apparently Claire salaries are too high.
I mean I have some thoughts on this if I can actually share.
So it's like some ex-party vision dude that's saying like all these random things and like
making these claims.
Like I talk to Blast immediately because he's like yeah Blast is gonna leave Dota, they're
like I have no fucking idea what this guy's talking about or like where he's getting his
information.
I talk to all the major teams, owners about like who's fucking leaving, no one's planning
I mean, everyone's kind of confused as to where this information's going.
So kind of just a little bit sus.
I'm not really sure what the point of this guy's article is.
I'm trying to read more.
Heroic leaving is like, I mean, I'm not happy about that, but it's also kind of confusing
because they also left the partner program for Riyadh, which is massive, and they were
willing to do that despite the team doing kind of okay, so kind of confusing in general.
So yeah, but then I'm not really sure what you want players to do.
It seems like really critical of players, but if orcs are offering these things, I'm
I'm not really sure what this guy wants us to do, is he just saying we should all band
together and accept less salaries?
Or is he asking Orcs to tell us all to go fuck ourselves and then, yeah, I'm not really
sure.
SG's take was interesting, he said like, I still don't understand what Orcs are playing
payers so much, it baffles me, why are these Orcs paying this much, you go into the scene
and you're just paying these players 10, 20, 30,000 to go to one LAN a year,
and you're like, oh my god, this isn't profitable, then don't pay that much.
I mean, it's not simple, yeah, then don't pay that much, you don't have to pay.
But the Orcs take risks too, right?
Like, I mean, if you're not an established Orc like Liquid,
and you're trying to come into the scene, and you want to buy good players,
it's going to cost you, and maybe they won't make it to a lot of LANs,
but you're taking a gamble, you know?
And those gambles are paid off sometimes, like for instance, I think for like,
like, I mean, you know, what's a good example
of an unknown, like of an Orc picking up an unknown team and then getting like kind of like lucky they blow up
Like I feel like maybe gaming gladiators I would say early on was kind of like that
I mean nobody knew they were gonna do that well maybe before they got picked up
I mean since
I'm not sure because the thing is like
Okay, if heroic was a top three team
Let's say hypothetically and they couldn't afford to pay
They would get a sponsor in seconds
Yeah
Like, it would take, I would find them a team within seconds.
A team spirit, yeah.
There's no team tier one team that would ever really have difficulties finding an organization.
Not after like doing well in one or two lands in a row at least, then you're like in a good work.
And then what ends up happening is it's like kind of a race at the top.
I would say it's probably lightly inflated at the very top.
But then after that it's like, I don't know, it's kind of like this.
Like you come in let's say like you say I can give you $1 to do this task
Yeah, and you know pies like I'll give you $2, you know, it's like double the money
So I'm gonna go with double the money and then other guys like you know what I'll give you $4. It's like of course
I'll take that. Yeah
It's a free market economy so to say I guess yeah
That's kind of how like the market is dictated what our pay's gonna get and then I see everybody really unhappy
About the fact that like these guys are earning good money when like you should take into account
This is like 40 players out of like a million plus player base.
Yeah, it's not that many players, it's true.
It's A, not that many players.
B, you're taking the prime years out of your life to do a job that has honestly like zero safety net at all.
And on top of that, like, you aren't developing any other skills, you are providing free entertainment
just as much as, like, anything, right?
I'm not really sure why Redditors are mad.
It feels like some weird, like, I'm not saying I'm grateful about my salary ever, I've never
sent that a single time, so that I'm confused as to where the implication that, like, we
don't deserve-
Remember, what are people saying in the comments in that thread?
Well, in the comments, they're saying, like, not surprising, when I heard Popella was
making that much, I thought it was insane.
saying that we paid well but maybe not that well like there seem to be in
general that seems to be the sentiment like people are much more their saltier
like that they're making that much you know didn't really expect it to be that
much it'd be something I mean I will go a little order because this is it's kind
of just it's a classic stupid person hmm I mean I understand it's okay it's okay
to be surprised by it yeah we can do the classics like oh a nurse gets paid this
you know, and a hiking guy just throwing the hoop in the basketball hoop at the
Doopity. Oh my god, he's making a hundred million. That's crazy. It is crazy.
He's saving lives. No, it's not. But it is great. In some sense, it also is crazy.
But you know, objectively, I literally no sense. Is it crazy? But I don't think so.
All right, fine. But I can kind of get what people say that.
This comment that you're having over is like insane. Which one? I don't
No wonder esports or it's like they should we should just make minimum wage
Plus get like 15k a month. No wonder esports work make no money. There should be minimum wage plus commission
Are you fucking stupid like I?
Don't understand like you want your free entertainment that like you're getting by watching us play
You're not the one taking on the the risk at all
That's like if people went to like you know NBA players make that much you can only assume how much owners make right?
Like the NBA owners make you're stumping for like the wrong people. It's like you're you're like no billionaire like
VC people you shouldn't pay that much. I'm just kind of confused as to like
Just it's it's really confusing to me. That's all yeah, it's uh, I mean, it's like yeah, you know like people like Mickey for example
This guy's been grinding his entire life for this job
You know like he's he's a really smart guy. He's gonna be fine in life
But at the same time, it's like a massive risk to him, right?
There's no like there's no guarantee
He would have made it on liquid that we would have done well enough for him to like do as well as he is right now
And also like eSports contracts are all fake news. I'm sure you know that too pie like if you suck
You would just get kicked from your team without anything. Yeah, you're not getting like most teams don't have like severance packages or anything
So it's like, let's say you're one of the Gigatop, like Western teams, you will probably get like a month salary.
At least there are some reasonable people here saying similar stuff.
In most sports, owners of teams don't make anything. They actually lose money, only if you make money.
I mean, that's not true in any of the major professional sports in America, at least.
Like, it's not even close to true.
And this doesn't even matter anyway. Like, it's actually irrelevant.
It's also one of those things where it's like if or is it really that like if they don't want to do it
They will also just leave. I don't know. I'm not I'm not really sure like but the like no one's not stealing money here
Yeah, but you also said it might be a little bit inflated at the top, but that kind of happens, you know like you know
It's just kind of happens when everybody's competing with each other way to high salaries
But it's like it's not on the cost of you. It's like someone made a mistake in like giving that contract
Exactly, they fucked up.
It's irrelevant to you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm, I'm like super happy for the people that are at the very top because it helps out like everybody, but at the same time, like, I can understand that that level is probably unsustainable.
Yeah, there's probably not going to be more than, you know, one or two orcs that will pay at that level.
Yeah, people always say that we're the orc that pays like, like that, but we are not, we never have been.
No, I mean, it's hard. It's hard for you to be because I think liquid doesn't do like straight gambling sponsors either does pay the most obviously.
Usually the teams with the there's no team without a gambling sponsor that pays the most I think.
And sometimes it's circumstances that will give you like even better contracts. I remember back when like twitch started out like they were giving out.
I think when I played on cloud nine, we got a pretty good contract just because they they were connected to twitch and other streaming like
I remember that I was also getting I was also getting all contract offers connected to twitch back then I remember that
It was a lot more money back then. Yeah, that's just like
Extra capital coming in because they want to like secure the future and then you get lucky
Sometimes you get unlucky because they have secured the marketer and then you
So that's also a reason why or is overpaid to right it's they want to they basically want to
Secure their spot, you know like basically it's kind of like yeah
you're overpaying but you want to be established in the eSports industry as
like a standard org you know you don't you're paying for that too not just the
players you're paying for your name to be out there so it's not just a player
salary thing yeah I'm not I just I guess like what the entire thing is is like I
just never I don't really understand the argument of like why when I read that
that guy just sounded kind of a little bit salty about something and I'm not
I'm not really sure what the proposal is like.
Yeah.
I mean, like you said, they give up their whole youth and there's like 40 players to do it.
We never hear about all the other players that like...
I mean, I can't name them, but there's people who played Dota 30,000 hours
that are literally basically the same rank as your players, please.
But they're making zero dollars, you know?
So there's a lot of those players too, you know?
They didn't get the right circumstances to get there, you know
Yeah, there's okay like they want everybody
I'm not even trying to shit on him because I actually kind of like him but like, you know like LeBron dough
There's probably played like thirty five forty K hours. He's probably like made what like 60 K off the game
Off of like 10 plus years of like working hard. That's like what you want for the scene. I'm not really sure
What?
People are hoping for
Yeah, yeah, no make sense
Yeah, it's the same it's the same with streamers to right like I like some streamers make like so much money is ridiculous
It's crazy, but there's a time to make nothing too. It's not that that doesn't make it a great job for
Many people I would say no, I mean
I'm not really I'm kind of confused
So I mean because part of it is like he's also saying like you know
He understands the level that it took, but he just doesn't want to see Orcs leave, but we're not trying to push up salaries like crazy.
At least we aren't. We're trying to explain to our players why we are in the space and how we're trying to make it work.
We definitely don't pay poorly by any stretch, but we're definitely not in the top three, I would guess.
Yeah, I don't think you are enough, so can I go get an intro?
I mean, I'm not going to say how much people make.
I mean, I have a good insight of how much pro players make
salary-wise in each team.
But I will just say, like, the past, before it was like
Counter-Strike players used to make a lot more.
But nowadays, totem players are at least making a lot better
than they did five years ago.
It's a big difference.
But now there's also no TI prize pool, so yeah.
Yeah, it's a trade-off.
I mean, if you're complaining about us, then like,
you will hear about CS.
No, not you.
The other person is like, you're just unhappy that people are making a lot of money playing
video games, ultimately.
Because if you're going to make that, make it about CS or like, league.
I guess maybe that's the root of the article.
So your opinion is like, basically this article kind of doesn't, there's no proposed solution
in it.
Like what's the problem?
Like are we just going to start playing players less?
Suddenly?
Like everyone's going to band together?
I don't even know what it wants.
Alright, let's say a team like Liquid, let's say we decide, because we're probably one
of the bigger orgs in the scene, we just decide we're going to start paying half of
what we pay right now.
Do you think there's a single top tier player?
Maybe Mikkei and Boxxie will stay with us out of loyalty, right?
But do you think anybody else is lining up to join us?
What's going on?
You think we're going to force the entire scene down?
You know what's going to happen?
We're just going to have a way worse team, and then over the course of three years,
It's just going to be like, why did we do this?
We won't be competitive for players.
Nobody's going to follow us along.
You know, like everyone's going to look at us and be like,
OK, I'm just going to continue to do what they do.
So I'm not really sure what the angle is.
OK, OK.
They should write, build up tournament price should be $500,000
out of middle.
Well, that was actually my take yesterday.
I think, I mean, if it's unsustainable for org,
so I mean, that's different.
That's tournament organizers.
That's a different topic.
The price pool might get lowered a bit in the future.
It's not completely crazy to see.
I think that might happen, but we'll see.
There have been things that are helping out the split stuff.
If you see all of these things, even in the Streamlink price
pool, if you go click the price pool distribution,
now 25% of the price pool goes to these club rewards.
Then then you sow.
Yeah, and we don't split that money.
I don't think any org splits that money with their players.
That's just goes straight to the liquid, so to say, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So I mean, even if you look at it,
it's kind of interesting distribution ever,
never looked at that.
Last place gets the same amount as the player.
You see that?
Just 10K for the last place and 10K for the org.
And the top is 250K for the players,
only 40 for the org.
But at least the orgs are guaranteed to get something
when they go in.
That's maybe makes them happier, I'm supposed to.
I mean, the only thing that really...
Oh shit, XLR work, we're just pocketing this now.
Easy, easy 10K.
To like really fix your situation is like,
you would have to be able to sell media rights,
but people get so assy about that.
Like the whole Facebook streaming thing,
our like kick streaming,
we only leverage that like tournament organizers
have to be able to pay more
and then like all of these things to be better
is like to have more competitive streaming rights.
Cause that's how it works for every other traditional sport,
right?
Yeah, but I'm just saying like no viewer like it's not like any viewers making a big dent by
for example
buying our merch or anything like that, so
It doesn't matter anybody's
confusing argument all around
I mean I get I will say I understand this perspective of being jealous of pro players because sometimes I felt it too
I felt that Ti 10
TI9, I was like, what the fuck is going on? You know what I mean? Because that was so ridiculous.
Now at that point we could argue it was insanely inflated and whatever else, you know, unsustainable
because I think it was bad for the pro scene overall even. Some players getting that much
for one tournament and the rest of the tournaments didn't matter. I was like, what the actual fuck
is going on? But that's not really a problem in Dota anymore. Now it's more like equalized. It's way
more like sustainable I think long term for for players and for other tournament organizers and
everything right like that's a different this from topic you know itself yeah those are better
arguments you make like for like when Val was spending a lot of money on the game then you
can make arguments for like how you think they should be spending that's fine yeah but this is
like way too out there like yeah this is not the same thing what private individuals should take
from like private organizations who are trying to like you don't even know their goals maybe like
I don't even know like falcons for example is in this part like I don't even know if their goal
is to make money but we're not just like put a good face for like the mean that we like I don't
even know yeah for sure they're cooking all right let's see the draft now let's hop in
thunderous playtime I think play this could be the last game of day if playtime they picked PA
it's the last game of the day okay so playtime is gonna win here I'll see which hero they're
they're gonna pick the winners.
I don't think we can pick Alk.
Yeah, Alk. Freeest Alk game ever.
You have Storms, Largo? You're right.
I was kind of confused, because it's like Alklich, Giggling.
Yeah. Now, I don't know, Alk was perfect.
I don't know what made him not do it. They must have had some logic.
What? Okay, well, let's see. They could put Beast Mid against Storm,
But, okay, they banned Dark Magoo Viper, Kunkka, let's see what he, let's see what he,
I'm not sure if he plays Beast, so.
Hux band?
No.
It's a lot of bands.
No, there's a lot of bands, actually, yeah.
Pretty nice storm game, and Dark Magoo banned out like crazy, you know.
I'm gonna go Queen.
Okay, this is good, actually, this is good.
Fuck Void Spirit.
I mean I guess Storm people kind of stop picking lately but it is what people consider the counter to Storm so
It's very good against PA too. She's gotten like she doesn't like pure damage
That's true. She doesn't like magic damage
I feel like they won this round from playtime just from the PA pick but
You might be underestimating them a little bit. They're not that weak either. They got the Largo Storm bullshit going
The offlane can be really sussable for playtime
Yeah
I mean, Lych is just a goat.
He takes the shirt off when he needs to power up.
And you have, and like, Beast, like, the Tusk plus Beast, I mean, they get the levels, but I don't know.
You could just start feeding from level one.
It's kind of like, we'll BZM one next night.
Yeah, it is one of those.
Considering BZM's current form though, yeah.
BZM's current form, I'm not convinced he's going to 1v9, just saying.
not feel like a little longer bus
you know what's making it going about these guys
like uh...
it's like tundra can be asked here and i still would never want to see them
uh... in a playoff bracket
yeah in no way
you don't want to
they can be scary
yeah there's just some teams like that
impure wakes up and stops going zero five
i feel like you're done
You know, you're gonna start losing real fast.
I would way rather play against, like, Navi.
Yeah, Navi, yeah, Navi's very consistent with me, but they're more predictable, right? For sure.
I can't believe he's a weirdo.
Navi's a weirdo, that's rough, though.
Not, not trying to scare you, I was like, wow, I'm surprised you did parry.
I mean, parry or falcons, both are very tough right now, I think.
Yeah.
They're the contenders with you.
If you wanna win, you gotta win.
That's right. If you want to win, there's no need to be scared of any team.
You know how much it sucks getting second, so...
Yeah, it's like, who cares?
It's uh...
The bracket is kind of whatever.
If you're a good team, you'll go far. If you're a bad team, you weren't medical far anyways.
Yeah.
I'm liking the playtime played really well last game too.
I'm sure it's not as cheesy of a necro pic to gut go in, but...
Yeah, they might get that straight up.
Tundra is one of the teams that played the least matches this patch, right?
Because they took... didn't they take... ah, they didn't take Volakia off actually, right?
They actually... they just had a stand-up, I remember that.
Oh my god.
I'll actually go against you, it will be a bit of a contrarian.
I think this PA is absolutely gonna dump on the skin.
Okay, wow.
I mean, I'm basing my knowledge of... I've tried PA this patch and I felt so ass about it that I was like the zero-stretch.
So I have to double down.
I think the lane is going to be really easy, and then he has to play smart, you know, let's storm,
attack all the spells, and then he comes in and pops them.
Okay, what do you think, Blitz? What do you put in this draft?
Sorry, I was looking at fucking Xyce, PeeMe.
I'm trying to book a trip right now, at the same time.
Yeah, no worries, no worries.
Do you think Falco or everything actually have the same team?
I think they're going to retire a few players, but I have no idea.
No, I wanted to go visit our tour in Toronto, so we're trying to book the flights, but we're
trying to book a few restaurants, because fucking our tour is useless, so somehow we're going
into a city, and we have to plan the trip, so we've got to plan the trip out, and then
I'm going to lunch with a friend here, so I'm trying to make that plan, too.
What far is that?
I feel like if you're in California, it's like an hour to go anywhere.
Yeah, she doesn't live far, so it's like probably like, can find a halfway point.
It's all good.
What's what happened there?
Just very slow.
Yeah, at least the task with the shot of you.
Should have seen that coming.
Yeah.
This silencer is looking a little...
Oh, this PA lanes can be really volatile in the start.
Could have almost...
Do I think we'll win now?
Yeah.
What's your view?
I like playtimes lineup, personally.
I don't understand this PA here at all,
because I'm not sure who's playing it or whatever.
But I think the silencer is going to be really successful
this lane like Gaelich there's probably actually like one of the better heroes
against both these heroes you should curse yeah it is cursing us curse and
access
well that's fine so far for sure they can deal with the bar so yeah it's okay
go but then that is we'll just do net of things
my goal yeah longer lanes I keep seeing it win random lanes that never should win
It's just the hero's nature I guess.
Oh my god.
I think your lord wins almost any lane, until at least all three.
Yeah.
Your stazzer is too good.
It is.
Oh, pure that.
Okay, it's that kind of pure game.
My contrarian.
No, no, are you buying a king?
He can still do it.
It's early, it's early.
I can still do it, but this is not going your way.
He has six lasts on the beast, it's not doing great.
Are you streaming?
Yeah.
Okay.
No, I'm streaming.
this court now streaming now yeah like I think this lane is actually quite good
because the silencer just kind of coax mm-hmm yeah he is this this
bitches died to get to win they're going on Frank only has a fairy fire no way he
dies no he dies his game is done okay luckily has two W's that's good no I
actually think this is like one of the few lanes that lich will lose because
silencer just in theory sounds really good against this late like he's just
He's gonna spam Q
He's gonna spam Q
He's literally just gonna spam Q
And Axes
300 damage every Q plus Axes dude
Yeah
And then like, Wanda's like
He's just gonna stick every time
Cause this PA has to uh
Nuke for CS
At this point when they were gone in level 3
Cause what can happen is you can get some
Cheeky kills level 1
Cause he went Blightstone
Like with Blugger, Nadenova, that could not happen so...
My only concern is that I could see a world in which they don't have like quite enough
chase or disable off of like the initial because like some road will go off and then
that is going to make everybody gigafast and then you just don't have enough control for like
Storm plus him when like DKBs come online. That's like the that's the way I could see the loss happen.
Yeah, he played it like he knew RIT.
Yeah, he did.
Because he could have just like, a lot of players would just go for that and then blink in,
die.
And Magoo has 800 games in this patch.
He can soul read the whole game of this patch.
It's easy in the matrix.
When we played them at PGO, you could tell, like these guys are, I mean they were a little
bit undisciplined, but the skill was definitely there.
Yeah.
Like, uh...
Have they even gotten better since, right?
Yeah, I mean they're definitely, like...
Oh my god, that was right, look at Pure, what the fuck.
Yeah, that's what I'm telling you, every time they cast one combo, dude, he loses 400 health.
Yeah, I mean this PA hero doesn't have health.
He was designed in 2012, like, no health on this hero, man.
This is why this PA pick for me was like kind of huge bro.
Big plays.
Big plays.
Whiteman died, but...
You have to make so many moves just to survive on PA.
Okay, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, okay.
There are the goats.
I take it back.
That was big.
Thank god for RSTP, but...
Yeah.
Yeah, well played.
Well played.
That actually is like pretty...
That was sick.
That was sick.
That was sick.
I thought he was like eye-manning us.
Yeah, come here.
He might have lived if he licked himself, maybe.
The hell wrong with his ops, though.
Why would you look away in the middle of the kill itself?
The fuck?
He knew.
No point in wasting time.
Like, what the fuck?
They have problems, though.
They have problems, though.
They have problems, though.
They have problems, though.
They have problems.
I feel like they have pop-up serving and they have like an AI training.
Yeah.
Look at PR, man.
The misery up here.
He has 31 lasted versus 15 though, that's worth pointing out.
Ooh, that was a good haste from Grigidian.
He's actually gonna die.
He doesn't want to show 33 dying, he's a fan, that's fair.
He is one of the midlaners from this. Walk up and get a little extra here.
And Frank is truly now starting to be shot down, even though they weren't getting some kills.
Here comes the reckoning, Pelpa. You going on white moan?
Frank? Probably did.
It is kind of crazy how little Frank sees us. I mean, who doesn't see us.
I mean, I think I've been watching it actually just
That's my Frank right there
It's like that's just not for me
I was hoping you could explain the lich kick. I mean, it's honestly just kind of meta right now
They added the two minutes sacrifice to the hero matters a lot
It's easily
I think the heroes it's against right now in the meta are also really good for it.
Yeah, the Frost Armour is pretty nice this game.
But yeah, 1900 net worth beast and it doesn't have a range creep every wave,
every other wave maybe it is, right?
And it's annoying for him on some level.
Fucking Frank.
But he also could have had a 1vc, yes.
Yeah, Largo has 1000 net worth ahead of the fucking beast now, like it's crazy.
Oh, it's a little bit grating on for 33 kill here, but it might pay off
Yeah, he's really fast though
Islands
Darkamago in one second like I'm not sure actually oh that block as well. Wow. What was that fat blocks the whole bridge?
Nana probably doesn't care about this that much though.
No.
Waves under enemy tower, like...
It's fine.
It would be the most unexpected prediction that playtime actually would be XG and Tundra.
Back to back.
Is it X... I mean, didn't you just tell me like King XG is like down...
King Ganto bad or something?
They are, they are, but I mean, Tundra are definitely the favorites coming into this,
into this even though they were looking kind of bad early in the groups i think don't you think
like this is tiber the funny thing is like actually look really good and then they just
like fucking catastrophically lost the nigma right i remember that then after that everything
went oh my god what what is happening to my play time right what are they doing
I'm not sure we can get the curse down on to it, but it's coming.
They're going for more.
Break back into the river.
This is crazy.
Largo's play like this too often.
He's going to be kind of over.
This is the world's first Largo being here at this time, I think.
Nine minutes in a row.
Look at where he is.
What is he doing?
That was a beast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
People say he doesn't move.
Jokes.
Yeah.
There we go.
He moved.
A lot of times this goes straight to jungle, Ragnies is at a farm and maximizes as much as possible, he's getting involved with the team, he's going to get them another kill here at the frag too, the suffering continues.
Oof.
Dang.
Crumbling?
Yep, they are actually a little bit.
Alright.
Stable now.
I think in a stable game everything goes well.
Pyro Dice prediction might come true about PA though.
This hero does get good after 2-3 items so they buffed them.
Yeah, they all need to just go in and die for you.
You need a type of patience that I don't have.
I don't have that either honestly.
I can't do it.
Sacrifice your teammates.
That's not a post 5 mindset kind of thing.
I don't play Pied.
Pretty bad at these heroes too.
Are you good at those kind of heroes?
Watch your whole team die just to clean up an aura farm?
Yeah dude, I was like the original Storm Bloodstone.
You just let your whole team die.
That's good.
The thing is like, if you just believe in your heart of hearts that you're better than
other people.
Which I definitely did in my early 20s
That life revolves around you
Then it's perfectly fine to play these heroes like this
I see, I see
It's an ego thing, it makes sense
I had a blitz storm if you guys haven't heard of it
It was a thing, it was a real thing
I remember it
Thank you, thank you
Would you say your peak was in Zephyr or like before?
I mean
We were okay like people forget but like that those Korean teams actually like popped off right after and it wasn't like they were bad
Yeah, played against like Jio's team and they got like six at like the super major or something like that and we cook them
Just a lot of our team kind of lost motivation. There's like
Nothing to do
Back oh, they're gonna school field debating a bit
that snowball is not gonna save him it's too deep thunder are playing the
big distance in this fight really well oh they roar lich that's a big wait what
the fuck global yeah it's called stills alive well played
I didn't think about that well pure went in
this is so risky
Oof, they're getting cleaned.
BGM is here!
Nice, clean up, he has 20% mana.
That's a short TP, but it's enough.
Alright, black gas game, we're still fighting up here, apparently.
So basically, we're a ghoul in the early days, you were saying, Blitz, huh?
Yeah, sure.
That's why I can't criticize any player for being an animal, except maybe, like, Parker or something.
And there are levels to...
What age is it acceptable not to be an animal anymore?
I feel like maybe, like, 27. You've got to...
That late? Wow. I would say 24 or something. 23 maybe.
No, because like, I think if you're in the real world, yeah, like 24, but then, like, if you're a Dota player,
just assume you're on average like two years, like a little bit stunted because you've got
a little bit in pain from playing like 40 pubs a day.
Like you've lost your mind.
So, you know, I can give you a little bit of a different like scale than the average
person.
Yeah.
Okay, fine.
I guess.
But the parker is young.
He's okay.
Parker.
He's like 22.
No, but Parker's a different level.
Yeah, Parker just does the archer. Parker, you know how people burn bridges? Parker straight up just doesn't believe in the existence of bridges.
Bridges are like a conspiracy theory to him. Yeah, that's for sure true.
He just like, I don't know, he just doesn't...
It's so crazy, because like, he, I mean, he's revealing how much he made and stuff, and it's like,
if you were just, kind of like, even tolerable as a player, you would get paid that much somewhere.
And he just doesn't give a fuck.
Honestly, I get irrespectable.
Like, he just, he just, his principles are just, like, I don't want to, like, if it's not my way, I don't care.
Yeah.
Kind of admirable if you think about it.
It's an admirable animal mindset.
Pure 1 HP, can they finish him?
Then lick back saving him from Qwapolti, holy shit.
Wow, what a lick back when Eta.
Wekmond dead.
Come on, they gotta get pure here.
They didn't get him.
I absolutely thought I got kind of unlucky there.
You didn't see that, Champros?
No, I didn't see it, actually.
It bounced away to like a mini-golden.
It was supposed to cook two heroes, and then like...
Oh no.
Okay.
I missed it.
Oh, the position is very, very much even.
It was a really fun game, though.
Yeah, it's very action-packed.
And both teams on the edge, you know?
No one want to give up on a fight or a kill.
Yeah, Frank got some space to farm.
So he's back in little games.
Is this really a goal by BZM?
As a storm expert, does he have him here?
It was a good time to pause, I should please.
Now you get to the animals.
What do you think?
I've noticed that with Tondra playing,
This is what they do every game with BCM.
It's BCM plus Aurea and Whitemon.
They're just sitting there diving through too.
Let me see this Lich Ulti, though.
Is it happening here?
Oh, it's not.
Here, yeah, OK, so there.
And then it just Insta jumped right.
Oh.
Oh, yeah, that's sad.
That's sad.
I mean, it's saying that Pure survived here.
This is the clutch lick.
I thought honestly I don't know what your tickets would and the pie.
I think this tiebreaker should probably be settled by a score and not playoffs if it's
not elimination what do you think?
Or do you think they should play it?
I don't mind them playing it and it's more content. It's fun
Because we're not playing for elimination playing for upper and lower bracket now
What do you think
Nice, I think if you have the time you should
Yeah, if you had the time one out there, we're not in a rush
Yeah, we're not in a rush so yes, you're right
Cause like what would decide it would be like one game in a best in three that's a one-on-one.
Like if you're not constrained for time then like if this was a land land then I could accept it.
Yeah.
That's just a weak land and it makes sense.
Everyone's using the tech word now.
You are an influencer.
Yeah.
You guys gonna watch the fucking UFC card at the White House?
Yeah, I'll watch it for sure.
If there are YouTube highlights, I'll watch the other ones.
We're planning part of our trip around this, because I was gonna fly on the 14th, but now I'm watching.
Are you going to Washington?
Yeah, he's on every part of Washington.
No, no, but with the boys, just like, watch the varsity.
Because it's just so fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, I'll watch it too.
It'll be fun.
Yeah, that's why it's funny.
I'll watch it for sure.
just of all things that are happening I don't know it's a mess but is it on a
log like where is it yeah I think it's on the line actually I'm so insane when
is it happening on the 14th of next month I so soon I feel like it's
literally in less than a month we might also go to World Cup game debating
right now. Oh Frank. Frank the tank. Frank is tank this. He tanks it. All right. Thunder
in a comfortable spot in this game to win now. Like this is this is looking much better
now. PA is third in net worth. Looking good. Storm topness with Largo buff. Oh boy. Good
I think you guys played it once but I believe you lost, I remember at least, wasn't it against
Yeah, I remember that's a very winnable game though. Yeah, it's not as good mid right?
Probably not playable mid, but maybe.
Yeah, if you haven't seen it, I can do it. Sneak shout out.
Hi, were you on the team with Sneak? No, no.
No, when I played he was, I saw him, Polish.
The kinglin, Polish stack, I remember that.
Yeah, the kinglins.
The Polish players.
Yeah, I used to play against them all the time back then.
That's when I was more active.
Beats two tournaments, never a hike.
Oh, I would love to see a 5v5 here.
It's actually like pretty good timing for...
You know what's cool about playtime?
You see, Wits is like 2k gold from an item,
but they still just say smoke and fuck it.
I like that.
You know when like carry players just like ego mode it, and then it's like the next item, then the next item, then the next item,
you're just kind of like waiting for something to happen and you don't deal enough damage in the 5v5 because like you need to open up like mid tower like this or something.
So you need your asset to come.
It feels like, yeah, a lot of carry players have that.
They can't visualize that.
The enemy also farms items.
Yes.
Yeah.
Dude, they completely walked around the whole smoke.
100 yards, all of that, man.
Yeah, that's a lot of wasted time. That's why you should just farm as a fuck these people
Don't listen to me
This is like partially related to them not being able to take the tower. No, yeah, that's true
I can't like cut angles so they have to like run in like a very specific
Like down back towards their own tower
This is shit show
That's sad.
Dukala said in the post-game interview that playtime was the best team in their group.
Really?
I can believe that he believes that for sure.
Playtime might be one of the best teams right now in the group.
It's the only team they've lost to, so...
Yeah, that's true. They did lose to him.
Is like, Dukala's like...
Did he chill?
Nah.
He might just be the go.
He has to make me the go to chill, man.
I don't think so, just you being here is not chill.
In my experience with him in pubs it's been very chill, but Gorkis has some...
Nah, he's not chill.
I mean, I met him in real life, you know, in F-Party.
He was alright then, you know, as a behavior.
But describing him as chill, I mean, our bar is really low then, you know, for chill.
You know, I met him on the car ride back at one of the events.
We took a bus together, you know, at like 2 AM or something, it was some insane fool
hour.
And he was incredibly friendly, like soft spoken, very polite, like this was before
he got out of the party.
Just like super kind, like was very respectful, was asking me my opinion on stuff, like just
like, Hey, what's up with this and this?
Like why do you guys do it like this?
So, it's hard for me to reconcile that guy with whatever has happened now, when he was
like pausing on Saber and calling him Moron and telling us that we were going to give
a reverse weapon.
Okay, but this is kind of how it is also.
It's my friend, so I think it's okay to say it.
I'm not calling out Seb, but would you call Seb chill?
Seb is nice to some people, but I wouldn't describe him as chill, you know?
like I don't know what you mean by chill, you know?
I usually, you know, like if you're the wrong guy meeting him in a pub, he's not going to
be chill, like you know, I don't know what chill means.
I really like that as a person, yeah.
But like, he's chill, I'm chill.
On the internet, he's insane sometimes.
He is sometimes, yeah, so therefore maybe not chill, you know, like I don't know.
I guess the umbrella of chill is very, it's one of the things that we need to show is
the one thing that we need to show is the one thing that we need to show is the one thing
that we need to show.
I'm sure they would say in general. Yes, that this show is us
You could only point at moments
I just never take up be seriously because like you if you play enough games and you just happen to have like I
Mean, it's like this you play like if you're serious about the game
You're playing like 12 games a day, right? And then you're bound to have like
At least like at least 10% of those ruined
That's gonna ruin your mood.
And then maybe you're the next guy that the game after you're a bit annoyed and you're just kind of an asshole.
So there are plenty of people that I play pubs with that probably have had good experiences with me.
And then sometimes I just had a bad fucking day, somebody ruined my day.
So then I fucking, at some point I'm like, fuck this.
Maybe Dota players in general are just chill people.
Nobody's fucking chill.
I just think it's anything compared to this, it's very few people who can keep that shield.
You know what it's like actually? I was talking to somebody because it's like in, it's kind of like,
you know if you're a professional player like the top 1% of like what you have to do and then
you have to play with like non-pros all the time. It'd be like if LeBron like like basketball only,
the only way he could get better was to play with like people at like a gym and then like
Whenever he was like, hey, you need to be in that position, they just told him, you're fucking idiot.
Like, fuck you, blyat.
Yeah, like, you get the fuck out of my court, and then I catch him.
LeBron, James, uh, Gamburger, and then they're like, alright.
Let's queue the next gym club.
It's not all about the way we did.
Yeah.
Well, that would for sure be LeBron's experience.
Yeah, he's also gonna lose his mind, and he's gonna tweet some insane shit.
You know imagine like Michael Jordan had to play with just like random people to get better at the game
So we like the fucks wrong here. I mean for Michael Jordan was enough. It's shit a team. It's exactly sure he hated all of them
That's just like that's what happens. You just get driven insane
Alright for Kilite and they're already pushing high ground here and resist a lick and co-op though for fun
Alright, Pyre is doing it. 14k net worth PA, Contrarian finally paying off again.
I mean I was expecting the lane to go a bit easier, but I also thought it would be like a trust piece though.
Yeah, I thought so too actually.
He was cooking, except Frank just decided CS'ing was not on this fight.
I mean it's very unfortunate, I don't know if they missed spells or they got...
Yeah, if they got those top kills where we saw the dive, like that would be so different of a game.
I'm advocating for an in-house league that nobody makes one. The problem with an in-house league is
nobody's pro players, like the problem is they're all animals so they're not sure which one of them is LeBron and which one is the roll guy.
The e-goals are very high in these pro leagues and plus people really like seeing this rank number go up, you know, it's hard to start.
It's not they would rather see the rank number go up than actually get better at the game
Alarm the biggest problem is like nobody nobody wants to admit that they could be worse than the next guy
They could be wrong too much ego
Oh
One HP okay they got him but blue Frank died for this that's bad
My fuck the way that Tundra set up for the storm pick was like they're legally good
Yeah, how did they get away with it? They like warbled early
they banned like
Half the pool they got rid of ember puck
Asgar then all of a sudden it's just like in kunkka then it's like every fucking
pick his counter, lick back, I mean this lick as a save is actually one of the best saves in Dora's
people don't know it but it's ridiculous. Backward 4 staff on no cooldown you have two of them at
level 20. Yeah I mean any movement displacing spell is like just insanely good. Nobody used it
like this on a large early on though if you're like now people are using it. I mean I think
FACET is popular for CS because their ticshitters are objectively unplayable or something.
Let's say if I made a league, and I put 50k behind it or something, I got a sponsor right?
Do you think pro players would play at them?
Like a FACET league, I get the top teams and...
But the problem is there's too many tournaments right now, so it's hard for fit in the schedule, but if they were suddenly a bit less.
Yeah, it might be doable, but then the problem is always like...
You gotta not allow players to be the ones to decide who's in.
You gotta find like, you gotta choose like one player from each top team
and they all have to like agree on any new player that's like coming in or something, you know?
Arc Mago, okay. Yeah, that would be hard to do, but yeah.
Because what ruins leaps is like some dude invites their friend that doesn't belong there
and they're just gonna get like crushed and then it's gonna cost them beef.
You're gonna back your boy
Yeah, that'd be us
Yes, and then it's just like I'm not gonna play this fucking shit league
Nice, it's nice high ground excuse me. I'm gonna they walked up with a 4k lead
And this went for it and won the game off that I go. It's pretty impressive
Good execution. You're like kind of poking. Yeah, it's a large. Yeah, it was good old larging for sure
Lick back to save. All right. That's one and one. So if now thunder or playing as XG and if they lose
It goes again
Then we'll see if it's a go again more turn the wings. They're just through. Yep. That's simple
Yeah, okay, it's like I'm gonna get it done. I
Think so, but I don't know XG are also random right like who the fuck knows how they're gonna
I feel like in their current mental state my faith in them is not extremely high
I mean, I'm not an ex-y hater, but I've kind of been hating on them since Birmingham.
I think I mean, just because I feel like they have fraught with their way through some series
that I thought they were supposed to lose, you know, I wasn't like personal artists.
Like they were really like close to losing and they didn't.
So I was like, ah, they don't they're not as good as people think they are necessarily.
It's not a hate thing.
This is like, Contrarian thing I guess, I don't know what to call it, but yeah.
I feel like there's actually a chance that they played their way out of TI, like, direct.
What? No way, they're getting direct TI no matter what. You don't think so?
I feel like I felt really good about it, like, a couple weeks ago, because I was looking at the results, and objectively, they're either like, 8th or 9th.
their ninth and it really just kind of depends on like whatever your own internal
I think historically the way that it's worked is like if there's like eight
good teams they invite eight if there's like six good teams and like two shit
teams they invite six now okay dude adaptable I see all right yeah now do
this China Tia though they'll invite 12 if they have to get the extreme so like
Glicko2 right now, number one in the world is Pari.
Yeah, fair.
Who is us?
Three is Falcons.
Four is Aurora.
Five is BB.
Six is Spirit.
Seven is Tundra.
Eight is Yandex.
Oh, eight Yandex?
That's so low.
Well, they've not played anything, right?
Yeah, I suppose, yeah.
And then they got worked at their most recent tournament.
So then like, I mean, Yandex is getting in for sure.
So then the real question was, does XG get in?
over spirit because I think BB would have been the team that was on the out but
BB won PGL so then it comes down to like thanks for doing something to go more
than spirit and I think actually they had a really good argument before whatever
the fuck is going on right now I think it's pointless to argue they're both
gonna go I think they're both gonna get invited no matter what I don't think that's
maybe we need to come fuck it they're on my 10 is that has that ever happened no
What's making my galaxy on the ranking list, where are they, on the Glicko?
They're 13 on Glicko.
That's not bad, that's close enough to 10.
You can justify that.
You can justify it.
Okay, let's look at our rankings, the team liquid ones.
Aurora first, party second, us third, tundra fourth, Dr. J.
Then Mouseswing, TJL or something?
Sorry, I'm just asking also, what's Mouseswing on the list too?
I'm most curious.
Miles is like 13th on this, and they're 16th on Glicko too.
13th on our list.
16th on Glicko too.
On our list, though, XG is 8th and Spirit is 9th.
Now, but they both have Spirit and Linus.
It's like, how could they have a plant China TI where they don't invite XG?
I think what they would do is they would give two slots to China,
and then they just fucking pray that, you know,
that WC gets in. XG and BG. But they must have minimum 2 Chinese teams in in general.
But could they ever go for 3 you think? Could they give 2 slots and 1 invites? Is that too much?
Yeah I think that's your chance. We probably most likely Western Europe gets 2.
Let's say like South America gets 1, North America gets 1. So that's 2 off the bat.
South East Asia is definitely not getting more than one, so that's one.
So then you have five more slots, so then for what, Eastern Europe, China, and Western Europe?
Western Europe's probably getting two.
Eastern Europe, I think, is only getting one, because Aurora, Parry, and BedBoom, and Yandex are already in.
Yeah, I know this one.
Yeah, so that means Western Europe gets two, China gets two.
It would be my idea.
Logic.
That makes sense.
Makes sense.
This guy is calling you out in chat.
Why don't you shave your head when you go top 4 TI?
Is that true? You're supposed to shave your head?
I was supposed to shave my head. Let's say,
Ian's eye made a basketball bet.
He was like, if you make the shot, you don't have to do it.
And I did.
That was literally, that was a real thing that happened.
Okay, alright.
But who did you make the bald bet with?
Oh, my team.
Oh, your team, okay.
Well, it's not that bad. You could shave your head.
Maybe you should make like a double down this year if you get top two
Yeah, maybe you could do it. What do you think? I promise like we still want so there was no curves, you know what I mean like
Are you scared of you look like bald or what? I know it will go back
I don't want to go bald either
Understand I want to see go work bald and see
You're trying to keep me down
No, no, no, no.
How much money for you to go like completely like no hair on your face like eyebrows?
No, that's that's too much.
That's too much.
The beard is like it's my brand, you know, I can't.
From your nose hairs, you're just gonna completely egg.
Completely egg bro.
I actually no cap on a stack.
That would take a million.
I'm not even kidding.
If I do something like that, like chat's never gonna see me the same way the rest of my career.
the rest of my career. You know, unless I'm streaming life, I'm just gonna be the bald
guy without eyebrows and anything.
Don't go put that one in a billion dollars on the wheel.
No way. No, no, no, no, no, no. Not putting it, not putting it. No, putting it. If you
put up the million dollars, I'll put it. I'm not putting it down. You know that wheel
is rigged anyway. Ah, we can do a wheel at the end of the day since you're here, right?
What's the plan?
No, I'm gonna put up a one in a billion wheel.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That wheel is fucking weird man, it already hit Steam Deck twice I'm sure it will hit
the 1 in a million too.
He's so hard, he just ripped it completely shit your eyebrows.
Fuck that, fuck that.
What if we put 1 in 100,000 no eyebrows?
You can keep the beer.
But what if we want to do a gain, I don't even know what a gain.
You gained a perfectly surprised expression.
We haven't, dude.
Wow.
Nah, fuck that bro, you go shape your head man, I'm not doing this shit.
You could do the bit, like whatever a team makes like a really bad play.
You could like, you could draw an eyebrow onto yourself.
That's a good idea actually, it's content already.
You could like, confuse the eyebrows.
What's that? What's Frank doing?
Every stream I have like a new eyebrow reveal, you know.
Exactly, like dude, how fun is that?
Dave's eyebrow.
Yeah, it'll be fun for you maybe, not fun for me.
I think it'd be one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Yeah, I know, because it's 5am in California saying this shit.
Somebody said 1 in a million quark eyebrows, 1 in a million blitz eyebrows, 1 in a million penile eyebrows.
Yeah, if everybody's doing the eyebrow, I'll be down, you know?
But you gotta put up your eyebrows too.
If it's worse for me though, I gotta be in front of a camera, like, every day.
You guys don't, at least.
to be
Yeah, I'm sorry to say my head
Actually
Yeah
Head than eyebrows. I'm gonna carry carry my face like if you remove my eyebrows like it's just good
It's melding. Yeah, I think I do remember you having very sick eyebrows, right? You might be right
You might be right
somebody's saying per 10 subs you up the chance you're 0.1%
guys there's a reason no other streamer does this because this stupid fucking idea
I'm not doing it man
I need to say the good idea
okay this TI I'll put up something you know this TI I will do like I will do
I will do something you know if this team wins I'll shave something I don't
know what I'll shave yet I'm not saying anything yet
I'll do some.
What about you?
Liquid wins?
No eyebrows.
That's too likely, man.
You're the number two on Glicko, man.
I don't know where the devil.
Let me choose what happens with your eyebrows, King.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that.
I don't know about you.
This guy just gives it six subs.
He wants to see my eyebrows off.
Thank you, Zorksy.
If playtime wins DI, Gorky, let me choose your facial hair.
Oh, no, I already did a playtime thing, actually.
I did it like yesterday.
You didn't hear that?
I did, if playtime wins TI, that's the only one I've done, but that's funny that you mentioned.
If playtime wins this TI, I'm eating one of those ghost peppers, you know?
Oh, that's something I've crazy, dude.
Isn't it?
It should be like, if playtime wins TI, you cut your hair, like you bring your headphones to the stripper.
Okay, but how is ghost pepper not crazy?
It cuts everything else except the strip.
You do the checkerboard on your beard?
you know like the chess board like one section at a time when you shave off one
half of your eye where are you getting these ideas but thank you Zork for the
nine sub 69 nice where are you getting these ideas
if you're ever the bad one just look at your own stream you're instantly fine
fuck that fuck that man I wouldn't be I would be there would be three months of
no cam stream is what it would be
for sure
dude your stream would pop off
like people would tune in
to watch you lose
like to see your hair like that
i'll tell you it's good at stream
i'll just do the
eyebrow just do the checkerboard and the headset hair
the headset hair and the checkerboard no no no
go to pro barber
no no no
let this drunk guy don't listen to him i don't know what these come with these ideas
are coming from I'm not getting a checkered beard we'll figure something
out this okay I'll do something for you we'll negotiate we'll negotiate the
checkered beard is sick it'll grow back eventually wait let me google checkered
beard I don't even know exactly what you mean but there's nobody that has had the
checkered beard before just people painting a checkered but what we do is
We take the precise razor and then we just like we do squares, you know like every other
And I was like square square square
Well, yeah, obviously, I mean what is it like playtime wins and then you get a really good haircut
understand
Can't fucking find any
Sounds risky as hell
What about you you're putting anything up if I'm putting up everything I mean
We might play against them, so I don't know if ethically I could do that.
I mean, if you're shaving and stuff, that's fine.
You can put that.
I did call you through with one chat, though, at TI.
At that Singapore, I met John X Fire in the lobby, and he was like, I really want a Steam Deck.
And I told him, if we get top, like, I don't know, top four or something at TI, I'll buy you a Steam Deck.
I did have to do that.
you heard him chat if you ever see bliss in the land you just say I really want
to steam back and he'll be like okay fine if if you we get to this you get
one that's where that's kind of what you do yeah infinity beers like any fan
comes up to me and you want a beer it's all yours that's not that's a good deal
that's a good deal you gotta be you gotta find me though and you gotta be
willing to wait in line for me and I just come in with my card and like yeah
you're not gonna wait in line for people though that's that's too much for sure
You're gonna be there all day
Yeah, but if you're there and you want a beer that's a nice offer
They want a Lambo Lambo is good, too
Am I still getting a Bugatti if I benched three plates?
My just you know, my progress is not going anywhere
I don't know if I suddenly hit that point in my life where I'm 32 and then suddenly
I go to the gym and I'm not feeling as pumped to hit PRs anymore.
I'm doing fine, but I'm not like PR maxing as much.
I gotta get back into it though.
No you don't, we went over this.
Yeah Pi wants me to like slim down and become a bancher.
I want you to shrink Max.
Yeah.
You know what this thing is for, no one cares about Gork like I do, he has the swing class,
that's the only thing he cares about Gork like I do.
That's a good one, that's very sweet of you.
It's been through the time and time again.
Yeah.
The swing class has no eyebrows.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Well the no eyebrows is no idea, but I do kinda like it.
Put that on the one in a million wheel.
The swing class has no eyebrows.
This wheel is not getting up.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, man.
None of that shit.
You want a billion, dude?
You want a billion?
I could have wanted a billion.
But I don't trust the wheel itself.
The RNG inside of it.
It is themed twice.
I don't trust it, man.
I wanted a billion.
I'll put something.
Not that though.
Human body starts going down on the 33 string flies.
You're fucked up, bro.
I think it's fine still.
still I have a few more good years I'm sure and you always have the option
Panto's joining me. Panto really? But who did the kick? Toby no Toby no my
Bobby will be always getting I met Panto yeah and he told me he had an idea he
said I want to own a bakery and I said okay I said what are you gonna call it
and he said, bread pit.
Bread pit?
Bread pit.
That was a real zing.
Was he drunk also, or what?
I mean, I have no fucking idea.
He was just like, I want to open a bakery.
And I said, OK, what are you going to cook?
Bread pit?
And he just thought it was the funniest thing
anyone's ever said.
But what the fuck?
Does he actually want to open it, or was this a joke?
No, I think it was just a meme.
I see, I see.
the bread pit dude you know who owns the company though you know soxa yeah now I
know he owns a wine company right another wine company that's nice it's
it's chill he said he brought wine to people I heard as well yeah yeah he's
got apparently six bottles coming my way next land nice because I told him I'm a
wine enthusiast and he's like I'll bring you like a case nice I still have to try
is one well are you depends if you're there I'll save a bottle which land though I might
ask him for ti or the next like if they do farming him again you know like in the then
I can actually like get drunk in the audience or something with like bottle the socks is
wine yeah I'm gonna pick the radiant first okay first pick is more popular nowadays right
makes you pick this
feel like i've seen it more
falcons doesn't take it
i think
somebody else doesn't take it also
interesting
but most teams do right
i actually think people are kind of liking second pick right now
okay actually took first though
because i think on second pick you can get a good core and a guaranteed good position 4
yeah
I was forced to ban Laundred on first pick and what not so I'm sorry I can't pick.
Surf Nero's he's got a ban.
Yeah.
I would say there's only like two or three like really really out to win broken heroes.
There aren't that many right?
Like honestly.
Laundred is one of the ones that you pick.
Okay.
Laundred.
I feel like Laundred might be the only one unmanageable and I feel like Cloak should
be up there but Cloak has been beaten a little bit right?
Yeah
Honestly, isn't anything else that's I guess maybe it's just maybe it's just loan
So that's why first pick is kind of weak you ban you ban loan and then you're good. You're gonna get some good trade. You'll be fine
Yeah, and a meta where like along the things are kind of fine
For the most part second pick goes up in value because then you get like two decent
Yeah, thanks
Yeah, we're going to see hoodwinks, rubiks here, I'm guessing and stuff like that, of course, but those are not going to break the game anyway.
Pango, of course, yeah, but he's not, he's manageable, I believe. We've seen him managed.
God, I hope XG makes it so they play against like Alcant's first round, that'd be so high.
If you hope XG makes it, we're going to get a full reset, go again.
Oh, I meant Tundra, sorry.
Oh, okay.
I have a feeling it will reset. I don't know why.
I see the draft.
Have you stamped yet?
How would I stamp today? No.
I want to stamp this game after you see the draft.
Okay, I'll consider it.
Forcing a stamp is never a good idea, though.
If only if I feel it.
Have you guys ever shaved your head?
Once when I was 12 or 13. Yeah, once it was bad. I went to I went like I went like abroad that summer
And I was like why do no girls talk to me?
Was there
Ugly ass head, I don't know. I just remember that summer real good
Me the name print on me probably feels nice
It's probably does yeah, you know
I don't want to try, but I'm at that point, I don't know how much longer I will have hair.
You're fine, another five years minimum.
Yeah.
You're good, but I don't worry about it.
Thank you, thank you.
You got to bag a wife first, you got to fool her first pie, and then by the time she realizes it's too late, you shave it off.
Easy.
B in the offlane as a 3-4 combo with Doom, it's very strong.
If somehow you can also put them both in the safe lane, also very potent.
So this is their coach?
I guess so. That's not Jawaid for sure.
So that's a new guy coming in.
I mean, I wonder why he left though. Was it actually just the Nigma series that broke them?
I wonder why they chose not to use our facility.
Yes, that too. Why didn't they go to Liquid?
But I feel like I've seen them in this place a lot, like many times.
Ah, they used the last two Dreamleads, was that ours?
Yeah.
And they did really well.
They did, they did.
Oh.
Yeah, tough work, both.
I don't know, I guess I've seen them in there a lot of times.
Isn't this like Romania or Serbia or something?
Maybe it's just convenient, because they were playing Alakja before.
I would guess here is that.
If you have to step on a plate, it doesn't matter where you go, you can go anyway.
You say so.
I do say so.
P-P-P-Pango.
I mean, Doom is also kind of a bustle tier, potentially.
I like your guys' Doom as well.
When you guys play it, it looks very good.
Most of the games.
Who plays it?
Ace.
But I'm surprised Miki isn't playing it.
And of course I can't ask for information, but I feel like sometimes I'm surprised.
Wait, this character doesn't play Doom?
Why not?
It fits their playstyle, but yeah.
Storm Spirit, wow.
It does.
It does.
It does.
It does.
It does.
It does.
It does.
Yeah, it does.
It can stay up there and you farm the shit out of them.
Yeah.
Storm Spirit, okay.
They really went with two cores to open.
Holy shit.
just seems very strong I think Dark Magoo popularized this hero you just start
picking it and everyone's like all right if Dark Magoo was doing it I'm in
what even pickers this I remember Duzza is theoretically good but when we see
in the do's is just loses games if you want to wait with it of course late in
here but you can pick strong supports now rubik hoodwink you know whatever the
fuck tusk if you like it whatever they want to play
silencer maybe even it's okay do most of the nice the necropic cashless
Oh, Rubick Unlord, my favorite.
My favorite.
Easy Clapper.
What's it liquid we're washing when I was begging for Unlord?
No, no, that was Nigma.
That was Nigma, actually.
I remember now.
Oh, it can't be us.
We love Unlord.
Yeah, you do, you do.
That's why.
That was like no way.
It was Nigma.
They could have picked Unlord, and I
think they ended up with like some Magnus or something.
I was like, what the hell is happening?
I saw Davai Lama, Magnus.
Oh, my god.
No, no, no.
and was generationally his worst game like ever i feel like
i feel like that took like years off his competitive career
yeah for sure that was a
that was a ball but the air magnets for sure right there
no offense ball but that's true i watched like five missed our peas in a row
i was like oh
me missy was missing shockwaves too man
it was not just a hard piece
trust me i watched the one in my games video
because i thought he could have won that game
oh yeah yeah yeah 100%
woodwind rubik out of the pool
now we need a strong pos 5 for whitemon
that's hopefully gonna be maybe potentially good against medusa i don't know if that matters
if you care but i would care against amir
i mean amir would doza or tb here right?
they would just lich
I mean if there ever was a Goosebeam...
Call the Lich again.
Big fan of Goosebeam.
I just kind of hate that here.
It seems really...
The Lich?
No, the Goosebeam. It's like an extremely bad area.
But it's standard against Goom, right?
And I think actually need to do
something a little bit spicy
to win against Andra.
Maybe like go into a real greedy style
something that could work. They're good at that.
Vice-Urbacanor are good. They buffed the Unroared Q spell.
You root, lift it to the root.
You know, he just dies if you like. Blood grenade. He's dead.
Honestly, it's kind of annoying to be stormed versus Unroared.
Yeah, Luna. You're looking like a Tundra stamp right now and just looking at these heroes
by.
Yeah, Ember isn't an option.
Well, let's see the last pick.
Yeah.
That's right.
I think it's 10 and 4 of this lane so it obviously has a good record at least.
I wouldn't hate like an oracle because I think like with the hoodwink lich I think oracle
is really good that it's protecting.
And you can like guarantee the rules for your pangol.
The hero that does extremely well is the same.
No, Jabet.
Not on this one, lads.
Not on this one.
Jabet went home.
He's never since changed the 15 and 20 talents, so you are going for the full right.
A lot of food orders there in the back.
She comes online super fast, especially if you're off to a good place.
Blitz, question to you and your team.
What do you guys order when you're out at the LAN?
It's the same thing every morning before a game?
be a standard order right like Starbucks everybody goes Starbucks or is it
different yeah maxing Starbucks maxing we usually get like a more what is it
like specific coffee place that makes sense or like a more specialty place I
should say what do you get was it going to everybody gets coffee usually we
We get some kind of like granola or something.
Okay.
Off-feeing granola?
Yeah, or like a sandwich, usually.
I pretty like burgers.
And then if it's like a lunch gate, or if it's like a midday game, we get like a bowl.
Some kind of like chicken bowl or something.
Okay.
Pretty healthy.
It's very rare we get like a burger or something, or pizza.
no way to get that before a game right that's a big mistake ever
never i feel like that's more like the Filipino teams go for the burger before the game
yeah i mean there's plenty of i'm not gonna out anybody but like there's plenty of like
mcdonald's rappers like right before to me plays i've seen i've seen them in the background
on olgi plays i'm seeing them i just i think we we like actively think about that
But you don't want too heavy of a meal, right before you have to play.
Yeah.
Bane? That's a spicy one. There must be some broken pick here.
Ursa? He catches Ursa, isn't that fine?
We're pure. What else is good here?
Ez is available. You get Kez or Ursa, both look good to me.
Bane's a little bit annoying for them, but it's not that bad.
You have to consider maybe that you can also gain some strong rotation for the mid lane.
St. Bolt ran a world record on chicken nuggets.
That's fair, but chicken nuggets aren't really that burger.
Because burgers are more like...
That's the bread that's gonna fuck you up.
I don't think a burger is that bad either but it's like if you have the fries then they cope with it
Oh that's GG for you gonna have a burger with water? Like you're fine
Maybe you're fine
Kezar or so any other pick you see?
I was thinking like an animal hero
That's not what I expected or wanted
I don't like it at all
What, Muerta?
Yeah, it's a curious late game, but I actually think people are...
This is where I think people are wrong about this matchup.
I think a lot of people think Muerta is good against Underlord.
I think it's the opposite.
I actually played against Arm and Muerta and I played Underlord.
And he got fucked.
I just pressed Q on him every fight and he panicked BKB'd every time.
This was like a few weeks ago.
Alright, you got it back, King.
Ah, but I didn't like the Muerta quick.
I was gonna ask a question, right?
I didn't like the Muerta quick, man.
I don't know.
I don't remember.
I mean, if it was ever a game for XG to win, it would be kind of this game.
This game does look good for them.
I'm just going to stamp Tundra anyway, but I think XG can win, yeah.
For sure. This is very close.
You don't have to stamp if you don't want to, okay?
You don't have to.
You kind of made me buy.
I'm a 6-2 stamp scorer this event, Blitz.
It's looking good for me, for once.
for once in Wallachia, six and two, that's good.
Six wins two losses.
They're like guaranteeing a win.
And that's as good as it gets.
Pre-draft, pre-game.
Well, that's amazing.
You should have seen my Wallachia win right now.
That was not good.
That was like 15 and 20 years, it was really bad.
Somebody's betting on your steps, you just broke it.
Yeah, on Wallachia for sure, for sure.
But here it's looking good.
I try to pick the underdogs in the stamps too, but that doesn't always happen.
Sometimes. I sometimes pick the team playing against me.
You could boost your numbers. You're only watching Pyro series.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
But yeah, this one, if I had to predict one, it would be Tundra.
But it's really close. I think this last pick Muerta was a big blunder.
They would have I would have super stamped if they went for a Ursa or Kez though
I think blitz will be biased and say yes, they play they play a lot of Luna
Ten and four for Luna this event to some very good winners
This is their type of vibe of a minor okay. Yeah, that's that's a good take. I mean I buy it, too
That's a that's Mickey go ads on Luna. Yes. Oh he won't last
Oh that was the easy game
Yeah, eat the Luna with the Axe Luna, that's pretty cool.
Oh boy, a 4 stamp up, I am never forgiving for this.
Gonna be rough.
That's fine, that's fine.
I'll thank it, I'll thank it.
100 did win the PA game in the end. They played pretty good that game overall. I mean, that
top lane was impossible and they made it, made it work. Who are you predicting Blitz?
Pi went XG, I went Tanba. Did she just, uh, think Tanba won? I think so. I'm worried
about my prediction of Tanba winning because Pi was right. I mean, I don't know. It looks
like a very XG-coded lineup. I think XG has a weird draft, but I think Tundra is just
a way better team. Okay, that's fair. I'm a Luna Hater, but if I can get word that Luna
is playable, then... Yeah. Are you always a Luna Hater? No, yes, the past four years.
I mean, since they changed the beam, not giving an auto attack, that's changed quite a lot
It was just kind of broken before then
That was different Luna for sure
Yeah, he was forced it was like a little mid-level on scuffle
But it's still fine to cage little one because that she does a bit of damage. It's chill
Pushing him into your pyramid
Can you ask Blitz if you can run fast?
I'm not sure, are you a Sprinter Blitz or not?
I ran like a mile maybe three weeks ago at like an okay pace.
What time?
Like six minutes, thirty or something?
Six minutes, that's good actually, that's very respectable.
I can't do that.
I need to run like once every couple weeks at least just to make sure I can do it.
Yeah, that's a good start at least.
Me and Nisha do a cardio day once a week so it's like even if I'm a little bit chunky
I can still run.
risky I guess you can say versus the underlord rubik you're pretty insurable
hey what's a mile in real units it's like a kilometer and a half or something
a little bit of damage okay it's all magic damn it's mostly magic
it's not like the best time but I think it's okay for a guy
for a guy like me yeah respectable I was dying but you can absolutely
got through it
Nisha and Blitz cardio sauce as part of the team liquid contract
Dude Nisha goes like he forces me to do it. He does like we do like a
Up hill, you know like run on the treadmill
And then he sets the stermaster if anybody's ever done the stermaster he jacks that shit up to 10
From the get go and you just he just climbs for 20 minutes. It's fucking no way
I could do that like two minutes max and then he bikes. It's like it's
Cardio days fucking hell. I actually hate Nisha so much
That's too much Nisha needs to chill is Nisha on the Royce. Don't be honest be transparent
Everything dude. He's on EPO
Astro and in you with my fucking friend
No one nobody wants to put 10 on the stairmaster and do it unless you're like tripling your test
That shit's like, it's so fucking miserable. I don't know how he does it.
Yeah. The SARM's doing it.
So, she's on the Chinese peptide?
Chinese peptide, you gotta be on the Chinese peptide.
Top lane is actually losing for Luna, that's pretty sad for her lane.
Yeah, that's pretty hard.
Oh, bot lane has a classic pure dying and laning stage feeling.
That's a pure must be honestly he must be the tier one carry that dies the most like first blood the first most in the first five minutes
right like there's no or 10 minutes
It doesn't mean he's bad he's dies a lot
No serious
It's like army was okay to sort of circle the creeps under the tower whilst this pressure was coming
I'm gonna have a stair master at my gym. I have a bike though when I try them out
Not that I use in any of them. I'm in trouble. He's dead. Call it army call. It's time, bro
Enough is enough
This lane looks very strong
I think he got a couple extra blasts in the least because they didn't end up going for that.
That's pretty ridiculous.
Bot lane CS is going well for Pure though.
I killed Pure on both of these heroes.
Just Hoodwing plus anybody. Honestly, this hero is insane.
Hoodwing plus anybody is a strong mania.
Plus me.
Could this be a kill on Whiteman?
Are you coming in?
A little bit of a kill surprise on Fy.
He doesn't want to give up his...
okay xxs though in trouble they have deadshot here
that's such a good tp actually
yeah that's a that's a that's a rank 4 tp right there for sure
boys is high rank
okay i'm going to sleep guys
thanks for coming
of course thanks for building my fucking eyebrow meme
yeah i barely know that man it's not happening
i'll see you
i'll do it, well i wanted to do a wheel but i guess uh...
next time bro, next time
just run it right now, like
we can't run a wheel, it takes time, i gotta give away the wheel and then you know
oh my god
this guy
hi, so we'll offer for the korean fruit though, if you want help making korean fruit at any time
i'll think about it, it's just i would have to buy old ingredients
yeah, that's cool
well, i promise you, we can get you some stuff that is not hard to make
i think, next time
but it's next time there's like uh...
uh... birmingham thing they might need to have a thing i'm on a
we're like by two as well so you can come stream with me
and we'll do it
at that event okay but we're going to know the recipe to that volcanic egg
well what the fack time you know i don't know what it's called korean you know
the
the big
with a perfect ending to the conversation
wait wait wait wait wait the volcanic egg please drop the rest
can i'm chill
does have a catapult midway right now so i could probably get you to the other tower
yeah that one's not hard that might be the
that's what you just that's all you want that's all you want
that's one of my favorite korean he wants the rest of you all right got the bed bliss
That was funny, Pa.
Before you go to sleep, I know it's 5.30, but listen.
That was good.
Oh shit, they're killing him.
No eclipse, but he still in no way survives this.
Is he gonna shake his head?
No.
Okay.
That's not a bad death.
It's all good.
He takes all.
As long as he gets wisdom, it's fine.
Not too bad.
What is the volcanic egg anyway? Can you tell me? I don't know what you're talking about.
Honestly, you look at the picture. It's like in a kind of a pot. It's just like a fluffy egg that like
rises up. Oh, that's weird.
Volcanic egg. I don't know what the English looks like. Oh, like that. Oh, that looks weird.
here. Just a fluffy egg basically chat. I'll show you guys later.
I guess steamed eggs is like a better term for it.
What's happening here? Speaking of eggs, eggs nova.
I'll end up dying here. Free Galvanize.
Actually Storm ended up losing to Pango, not towards me. That's kind of crazy.
It shows how good Pango is now.
So do you sacrifice the range creep or do you sacrifice the melee creep every two minutes? What do you think by?
I mean, I think most of the range creep but it depends on how much mana you need I guess
Okay, so we need mannequin melee. Yeah, that's fair
In this play here we go purey reading this ever he's never reading this purey reading shit here
He is not
He just got ulti
He's as slow as it goes, now I realize.
Yeah, he just sharded himself.
I feel like some players would actually wreck there.
Like with like Satanic, he might have done it, you know?
Just saying.
You don't think?
No, it's possible.
It's possible.
Yeah.
You're most likely dead anyway, but it can get weird.
Yeah, it can get really weird.
Pango actually has no way to deal with one another.
Exactly.
There's no single point of magic.
He's giving away this ward though, if he continues to do this for too many times, but...
He's pumping this gate here.
Alright, I gotta wall it down.
Yeah, nothing is going to stay swaps this entry and he's going to...
Don't you have a sentry of one?
He knows about the ward now.
He's too much goofing around.
Yeah, that was a stupid bow already.
He's like fake going through the gates, over and over, trying to do a little bit of tomfoolery.
They were like, bro, they see me, man.
He sees me.
Oh, eclipse.
Oh!
How many gold?
Oh, Bazinga M, how do you die to that?
You're a storm with 360 mana, how do you die to that?
What the fuck?
Bro, how?
When you come to face the goat.
In a professional game indeed.
Oh, they can, oh they might all die there.
It's all about the bounce on this one.
How we bouncing, bouncing good.
Ex-Ex-S dead and they killed the Rubik too, not bad.
Not bad. Very nice Rubik in by the way. Good steals.
Doom, Bushwack amazing, Deadshot amazing.
Yeah, a lot of casual good spells.
Yeah.
BZM please.
Is he gonna roll it?
Yeah, he's gonna roll it.
Oh, the f*** that.
Oh yeah, no it's close.
He's going in BZM, what is he doing? Oh, he's going for the roll.
Oh, thought he was just...
Yeah, I didn't know.
Yeah, I thought it was I don't know what to think after that lick a lip-slay, bro. I'm lost in the sauce
Top net worth 33 he didn't getting that lightning people cooked them up top
Okay, I might just be there
Now there should be fine.
That was kind of weird if you see him, he wasn't waiting for his support.
Boiling as one might say.
Okay, boiling.
Oh, that bushwack though.
That's a boiling as a bushwack, but it's fine, it's enough.
Boiling bushwack.
XG has real chance to win.
I mean, I'll say yes, but this start is amazing for Thundra.
They took you up at 11 minutes.
a huge deal I don't think actually a better late game or anything so
Underlord is quite shut down now, the access he is the bottom of the course
and he needs to death
Like I said though, I don't think this is a great motorcycle game right?
I've actually been able to set up that safe lane that
just that well that they can...
There's my UL Rubik lane pie, seems to be can't losing every time
winning every time, there's...
I'm losing every time
It's really broken though, sure, sure
little bit extra preparation and I mean are right these little rotations that he did absolutely
and Thanos casserole team for sure they are definitely consider better I'm not sure where
they were in the power rankings but parvizion we're on number one right now normal build
he's gonna build just two treads soaring kaya not gonna need to go for that breeze kind of style
here we go it'll be up top top rune we've got it okay steel for fy not a great one but
Illusion?
What about my tier list?
Let's consult our tier list.
It's actually worth checking my tier list how well I did,
because I don't think I did great for the...
Who got eliminated?
I predicted playtime would be eliminated.
Let me check.
So I've put in the Vici game in Reconyx, gamer legion and playtime would be eliminated.
Did Vici get eliminated in the end? I don't think so, right?
Not sure.
Not sure.
Not sure.
Well, we'll check the tier list later, it's fine.
No, they didn't. It was X or O because then it was close though.
But yeah, according to my tier list, every turn we're higher than XG.
the next year not much just one spot higher but yeah oh wow okay that's why
we're back we're back next week they were just once they were at the same
spot
all right all right not too shabby not too shabby
This is a nice one having the frost blast high damage nuke replay. Let's see that again. Did they go in on under one?
Yeah, they're coming smoke. Do you see there?
Yeah, the sideline smoke. Yeah
Bzm a solo man. He got a little diffie tics on him, which made Bzm not get far enough
It's a low where he might be like
Whatever got 33 farming and 33 land up there. He's chillin
Playable game for both teams
Radiance coming
Not or a build on unroared is pretty standard nowadays even AC sports isn't doing it the new current meta
The natural tank ability of unroared is not really as important as the
Disable that eggs and Etoes offers is just too op.
Muerta net worth a little bit lower than Luna, but I feel like this match up favors Muerta
Plus you have to worry about getting doomed the whole time
No way strength to set up here. Yeah, this is big white months behind him. I don't know if I can see can save him air tagged air tagged mist
That's air tag is big by the way. That's huge
That works in a smokes too. By the way, you can like see smokes of that
They're going towards the room, it's going to be a brilliant fight.
They got the pango, pango, oh big chain frost.
We're still alive, oh he was holding a big stick, he was baiting.
Likemon tanks the clips but who cares.
Wait, it matters to puridize too though.
the fuck out of here in the thing what I angle by eggs nobo
hey you got a snap
yeah
it's 33 gonna join any fight
wow
this crazy action
literally not joining any fights
he's just waiting for his radians
then he's gonna wait for his bikini blink I guess and then
he's ready
ooo Rubik is doing your build
he is let's see it again zoom I build them oh yeah he is well he's going
Avalons it's a good build it's a good build I saw it in the live thing
another kill on Bazinga yeah we have to soon we have to be very
Very low.
Yeah, 5.8 Ganethorpe.
What happened to my BZM this game?
After that Eclipse skill, I feel like he broke.
This is why 33 is farming.
He literally does not trust his team anymore.
It's a very farm kind of hero, so...
Oh, it comes with spells.
There will be a timing where I think it's
I think it's very obnoxious to play more if there was a little more of that axe.
Like if you don't have Pyke or if you don't have BKB, you can use your ult.
Like he literally is there.
Erie.
Oh, Erie.
That's an easy kill.
Alright, yeah, the power of Underworld.
Stormbone from Rune here, missed.
Well, lucky.
Be careful here, Storm, please don't die. He's air-tagged, by the way. He needs to be careful.
He has to actually make Zip away all his mana, and now, hands off keyboard, he's bored.
Back to base.
Oh!
They found him.
It's a little hiding spot. He's like, what?
How dare they come here?
Oh, oh, he didn't give Doom.
Okay, okay. That would have been GG if he gave Doom, actually.
All right, they're feeding
Pire prediction is working again. You're kind of your contrairn stamping is like owning
Yeah, but at least this time I'm like
You know with it
I've gone and see they look like
But this is like their bread and butter
And if you're telling me that liquid things Luna is a strong hero then
My last doubt is this release and we can't believe in that.
Yeah, it is, it is not.
Endless tiebreaker if they win here next year guys.
Here we go.
Short day if Tundra win. Very short.
Which one will it be?
I mean right now it's basically impossible for Tundra to fight, right?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, he'd like BKB duel my thing, and one more item I might at least, maybe BKB and her too even.
Yeah, because I don't like to think he's gonna fight right like, one Lunon thing.
Here? Oh did I try to hit, but the sleep hit harder.
Can I get here soon?
he's dead already
BZM out of mana, no please have mercy on Buzzyn
force me, force me
Bushwak missed the important targets
oh, oh, oh, oh, Buzzyn
he clicked stick at instagot
man over
yeah
disaster
we might just see him
They're busy and having a generationally bad game.
I feel like this used to happen before.
I feel like they made players nowadays.
They have generational bad games when they have bad games.
7K net worth is nothing going good for the beginner.
Yeah, once you get the QB stuff.
They will.
Then they can't even poke Hage on it, I think.
That's pretty good spam, I guess, on Ponder.
I gotta go P.B.
P2, actually. I'm gonna go P.Quick.
I'm gonna wait for P.Q.B. on Ponder, I guess. There's no other way.
like yours. Not as bad. Maybe between games 8 billion 815 million nine hundred and one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine.
Love you. I got new water. I didn't have to pee. But I got all new water. A little bit of something there.
I mean, oh no. $10 right now. I came back as I came back.
Aghanim's timing has been hit BKB is done for the doom so 33 $10 of a dope our runner
Would you coach me as necromancer or a terminal radian similar throat are you?
Maybe dream games. No, I'm not gonna be a door. I'm sorry bro. Thank you though for the $10 door. Thank you. Thank you
Thank you. I know I share your pain though, brother. I share your pain losing a 12-minute necromancer radian scheme
Oh my god, 33 just happily drop. Hey, this lead Jarrah. That's a lot
So not that the BKB revealed that the 33 hearts to come in way
Oh no, 30 days
Oh, tap tap on the forest
Not good
And he's ready to turn when he can turn, he can throw out that clip
So just perfect reads of the scenarios
No guys, I don't really do coaching
The two supporters are coming in so clutch
And for Tundra, that was the BKB revealed
That was the one that they wanted to get like a one or two sequence of kills
not able to get much of anything on the first reveal but the BZM chargers like
$300 an hour on coaching guys they don't say scam the guy don't intend I
appreciate the 10 but guys I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do coaching anyway okay
guys come on where's pie he won't be our be a bit
for the side of xg around this tourna timings are beautiful level 18 is hit as well my bazinga
yeah tundra have the better lineup they just blundered a bit early mid game
i mean not the better lineup the better late game the question is though now that if amy gets
ages butterfly this doesn't matter what kind of lineup you have 150 b enough for one game now i'm
I'm not gonna call you guys, I don't do it, I've never done it all my 10 years streaming.
I don't think it's a good content.
Yeah, if he knows his labor laws, maybe.
He doesn't believe in it, so that's good.
Now, here comes the chaos, bro. This is snowballing fast.
Tier 2s are falling soon, Tier 3s, guys. This is stressful as fuck.
They're gonna maybe take this mid-fights or what are they doing with TP in?
Spoking a bit, I guess.
the tower illusions are still there in this tower i'm gonna fool it 24 minutes
nothing's ready to dive in all right we'll be able to force away did i say bzm takes 300 i meant bsj
i don't know what it's a continue to apply tons of pressure two towers claimed looking for the
top side now too maybe even gonna find times cold sinker three what does parker think about that
and this direction sam you said for bzm so i can make an article one of the map
They're really punishing all the good point that's Parker
An instant movement like they see one they see them like shift out from top
I'm racing f y and nothing to say kind of make their movements down toward bottom
To look for these place again here sure we'll walk into nothing to say I was looking for an aggressive move
Did I say bzm you know bzm doesn't do coach as for sure
Does at least have the lotus now so bzm has one thing to bail them out won't get chain locked down inside of that pit now
Here we have a butterfly soon, here we go.
It's stressy.
Never I'm telling you that I had a feeling about, fuck I stamped this game.
Pi forced me to.
I was never going.
I like the excuse lineup, but I can still win on Tundra, but let's see.
Didn't know BZM would shark the bed on this one, this is rough.
The butterfly online.
Now is when you should be scared.
20 butterfly eggs ages holy okay bkb weather this is their time so they both
got a timing at the same time it's gonna be a brawl that means let's see smoke by
thunder 33 is probably gonna show mid here no he's gonna go into the smoke
they both they both not showing who's gonna get the jump of the BGM
I can't believe he was breaking the smoke with the ammo.
In the pit they're gonna go with the ammo but there's so much hesitation.
He got the silence but he missed.
Deadshot hit on Pango.
What an angle by Pure but is it enough?
It's so close!
Oh!
Who are you foo-yo?
Oh, one HP BZM.
Meanwhile in the back, Eclipse on BZM, he's eating it.
He's not dying though.
Ooh, the buckle missed.
The buckle hit by the muscle buckle Roche got the kill
Got a little eyebrow pump by 33 for that one. Wow, that could have been a disaster if they killed the pango
That was nasty by
By pure so cool. He went all in on that fucking pango and almost worked crazy
Look like it was a mistake and he almost wants
Spice, Spice. They don't want to give this Rosh on Thundra, that's for sure. You can't give Luna with Butterfly Rosh. She's gonna end you.
I feel like BZM hesitated on the first jump on Luna and then he didn't trust Pure on
the pangol kill enough.
He fucked up the fight too.
He's not just having a horrendous game at, horrendous.
actually lose versus p3 yeah so this is basically tundra win they're through
otherwise it's full reset again might be a rock-paper-scissors situation if like
tundra always if actually always beats tundra the tundra always beats
playtime nobody's going through I don't know when these eternal one end I've
only seen them go two rounds before or three rounds maybe I might have seen three
rounds on these tiebreakers they're going on eggs Nova couldn't get them let's see
let's see
smoke on smoke
the Roshan is available if actually just slam Rosh right now it would actually
work they're trying to find under UL farming alone I think the line was wrong
by 33 it's a genius line you know exactly where he went to farm
we're gonna sweep down south though we're gonna sweep it sweep it
oh he's crossing the the side zone they still don't have the tier one so close
actually. Ooh they're starting Rosh. Man that was a gamble but it didn't work out.
Ooh this is a free Rosh. That's so bad by Thunderous. So in the end their smoke plate did not work at all.
They tried to over thank it and they went for a UL.
Nah no big zip. Too late.
Well Thunderous fucked up that sequence that's for sure.
them source split pushing but the thing is you're gonna split push and Luna's gonna get
a BKB. Turbo tiebreaker win? Yeah, maybe.
Dude, I want them to fight out, fight it out in 1v1s at some point. You know, you can't
do eternal tiebreakers forever, maybe 1v1 time.
The high ground is gonna look kind of tempting at least look for a fight to potentially get you those kills
I can lead you into that one under lords still not quite having the BKB, but it's okay for him
Yeah, I think for tundra the name of the game is gonna be don't let them hit the base right nuke the waves out push them out as much
As possible so they can't get to that angle
Dude they can already go high ground bottom. I don't know if x you realize it's open
Here we go, all right, they're going high bottom for sure with this
It's go time brother
The dragon king is coming. Are you ready time?
He said something oh my god, I saw Amis moves lip on his moves lip. Oh my god, his moves are lipping
You're already keeping in
It's poked by pure as good.
So the calling, is that enough to stop everything?
33 is out farming so by the way.
He doesn't believe that this is a real fight yet.
Ooh, the gate, the, ooh, pure, not popping BKB, nice.
They popped a lot there and didn't pop BKB.
This could be a good fight.
They zipped in on armor, they zipped out on BZM.
Okay then.
Okay, 33 did TP back to base though, so it's not a complete loss for XU.
And they get the UL this time.
I mean, no, they don't need to hunt the Underlord because Underlord doesn't have ulti anyway, right?
That's the secret.
secret they should go museum zippin and show me something the silence miss they're gonna
get a pain for free but is that all they're gonna get that's not what they want yo what's
he doing on excess he's too deep I feel like he's dead what the fuck was that he was like
Guys, I'm going in for Nathos. What the hell was that?
That was so weird.
That was so...
Not even funny to put this. High risk, no reward, kinda gameplay.
And now we're back, I'm pulping.
That's one of those moments where you wonder like, if I'm in Thundra's shoes there, he
does that.
Guys he's up to something don't go in and no way he would just go
He just didn't go maybe that's he was trying to or a play on aura only
Pile I've oh yeah, it went to toilet
The big toilet I guess
Fresher I'm a soon
Interesting pickup actually refresher double ax eclips. I guess
pretty good but they're gonna kite it
it's nice combo with pango too. pango is gonna give you vision and you get in there
you axe ulti it's nice. not the heaviest right-click build that we
expected Armin to do though maybe
Absolutely making that recovery in the farm as you said a bit of greed in their line up
Sorry about that
Hold on by the BKB on the horizon
And if they do eliminate army in these fights, there's nothing else for it
Late late game, let me try to think
Rubik is pretty ridiculous, Vayne is great too
I mean honestly I would say they have good late game on XU
But it's hard to say Doom, Storm, Muath is gonna lose right?
If supports might be a little bit better on XU though
How long can they wait?
They found something. It's an action.
It's all scurry. It's probably dead here.
Pushed him back. He doesn't have a TP, so it's all fraud running away.
Right on back. What happened?
It was a little bit sus high ground by XG and then they got picked off two heroes.
They didn't really use their agent so well.
So, yeah, pretty much we're in a pretty stable game state here.
Yeah, Punga should be getting half your amount, right?
Mm-hmm.
Damn, this is really nice.
Yeah, she is.
She's got an interesting build.
She's going eggs into refresher as well.
So he's committing on that part of the build.
I don't usually like that.
I prefer the, like, I'm blinking in, sweep, blink.
I think this kind of build is nicer, but yeah.
Especially now that you don't get to double.
Harder to do this, but this came in.
Tentra?
Yes, need a pango to keep us informed.
Yeah.
Okay.
He needs to do some work.
Got entry.
Got the axe, BZM, just to pick up his own BKB.
XXS, it does pick up a BKB of himself now, so much safer for him, cause he was just kind of walking in and dying to all the spell damage, so...
Shields root for BZM.
33's build is done. It's like a mini Exodia.
Shiva Ags, BKB, this shit's strong.
You just blink in and you have a big doom surrounding yourself.
Shiva gives this AOE increase now,
which synergizes with everything you have.
Your W, your radiance, your natural tank ability.
Yeah, some might say it's kind of a new thing.
Yeah.
It's just drops.
It's not that. It's not...
I don't know.
Don't overdo it.
Don't overdo it.
do it. It's DD Bottom by the way for Pango. It's infinite, Tiberica must be good for
Tandoor, take off the rust. Honestly, it is kind of good for this team to get to practice
a bit more before the playoffs. It's kind of nice. Ooh, he's babbling on Ame. Here we
go. A rare babble coming back. Babble is 0% win rate in this fucking tournament shit,
It's fun.
So you really gotta bubble twice.
Yeah, you do. Minimum.
That's kinda easy to do.
I know.
The grip.
It's a disaster. The bushwack missed.
Okay, but 33 is like 1 HP here, and he doesn't have BKB anymore.
Oh, it's a disaster. Certified disaster.
Yeah, he has DD, man. He has DD. There's no way.
Wow, what a bad fight.
The Vayne, not dying right away, did everything there.
And it's also he blinked in with Doom on a illusion.
Oh, yeah, that's pretty bad.
Let's see if we can get a replay of that, cause there was a weird lunar illusion running around.
You can see, Amis smirking a bit.
They'll get it.
Yeah.
Let's see.
There you see him, see this Doom jumping? Yeah.
Ah, okay, yeah, 33 and all in on a illusion.
then when he realized he's in a route and he's gripped so he's fucked
honestly one good thing about this doom thing when you have this
dooming yourself thing is kinda hard to see in this bkb
so much like
so many colors on him
oh bazinga, he's his dad, he's the man
gonna die a little bit slower
at least he didn't give away jam
That was a good bait paramedic. A very world-class illusion bait right there.
Out fight. He has a refresher too, those two Eclipse.
Weird not to take Lucent beam damage when you're doing this Eclipse build, but okay.
I've seen REQ and went up now. Is it checking around?
Yeah, we doomed the spell. No, it doesn't. So that's the downside too, right?
If you doomed the pango, it would have been a different story.
Okay, I was checking neutral.
The pango seemed to be in brawl, right?
Yeah, it's still the spell so much.
The mandible?
It's DD.
So they do have one of them.
Yeah.
So it's pretty significant to tank.
But like...
Yeah, it's not worth doing.
Don't really want to do that, do you?
No.
That's uh, if we're Dr. hindsight then yes it would have been worth it in that case but...
Yeah.
Oh no, I didn't kill the words.
There we go.
How did he not kill it? Should the gem thing expire?
Oh I know, yeah the gem probably moved out of...
Out of range, yeah.
Second rush, alright guys we're heading for infinite tie breakers, here we go.
Motherfucker
Of course you are. I knew it. I had a feeling
It feels
Do anything
I mean the more I can hear him
It's what comes down to
Yeah, Tundra kinda have to kite the ball, and XG have to wait out the big enemies.
Because if Tundra don't have big enemies, they are disappeared.
That's true.
But late game we're still favoring Tundra, right?
That was my early assessment.
He's hard to see.
He has probably, yeah.
He's going to come back to everything he wants, and he's feeling comfortable again after that
fight for sure, because he gets so much gold.
This would be like a nice pure divine reputation.
I would like it.
Yeah.
He's gonna come back to everything he wants, and he's feeling comfortable again after that fight for a show because he's got so much gold in there.
This would be like a nice pure divine rapier here.
I would like it if he raves in, if he could just hit him. He has to spare.
Prime pure definitely goes for a rapier here. He's still a bushwag too, no way. That's a disaster.
That is a disastrous giveaway.
They're gonna stall out this game in the corner.
Yeah.
It already has crazy cast range, so now it's even crazier.
As you baffles me it's crazy how crazy Dota was when we had facets.
Dota heroes were so customizable. We had facets, talents, we had innates, and we had shards and
aggs. There's so many things to look at. It was a bit too much, I think. I think the removal of
facets is good because of that. Satanic computer. That's a pretty low damage option. Not sure.
Oh, that's a massive sleep by Exnova. Oh my god
The grip okay
Vision white long nice entry. Yeah, like I was just eating the eating beans eating beans. Oh
No, please BGM. Okay, it's fine. He's fine. He had a big lotus
Well my storm this is my style another catch by a fly huge huge. He gave the vow
They're getting destroyed.
Is this kind of a little...
Oh yeah, classic 33 reaction.
That's real bad.
Ulfti Waston?
They're thinking high ground.
You want to spawn in positions?
Maybe use like the fuck the refresher like it's not gonna be useful anymore.
You got a sin for mags, bro. I don't know why you need it.
It's just a hoodwink.
Well, let's see. BGM is going for it.
They're trying to kill Rubik.
Rubik is dead at least.
I'm as maybe dead once here.
All right, all right.
They held.
They held.
Think they're happy backing here if they can.
Force me, force me.
Pit Lord is here, but I don't think it's enough.
boom up in three they're pulling all big pool but didn't get I'm a nice falling
out of there that's a beautiful that's what we call a scene in my nightfall
right there his whole team trying I'm saving I'm saving he's like fuck you
guys I'm fucking out of here good decision I'm sure all right there's a
hope for tundra now I mean lost one side only
Funny game.
He was so close to pulling all three there, Ahmed made the decision to Bikibido.
If he gets pulled there, he might have gone chase on it to death.
Pretty satisfied pull. What a reaction.
Oh my god, even playtime is reacting to this.
Who was that? That was like El Misha or something.
Yeah, Elmisha's like,
Elmisha, glasses?
I don't know.
He was a playtime player.
Dude, they should add that.
That's a genius idea.
Had playtime watching the game, reactions as well.
Because their life is dependent.
Also, yeah, tilt them up.
Lag, same.
Say, Calais, bro.
It's Chinese on the enemy team.
Man, high ground is still the toughest part of that.
Yeah, there's nothing to say.
Finicky.
Yep, yeah.
The question is do you want to take that risk or just want to get the open goal that's on the map right now, right?
Because you have towers to claim bottom you have a tower to claim bottom.
You fly back with the deadshot again. Yeah, it's common.
There's a lot of open goal that they can't claim but I think they might just go back for it.
They also have time to now discuss it.
By the way, Nigma too old this XG team guys.
Are they the goats? Maybe. Re-invite them.
This game is so exciting.
You can absolutely see how XG can close things up, but you can see how Pure in particular,
with this agonims now on BZM, can just evaporate targets.
And it's 2 level 25 on BZM too, so overload attack bounces.
With the conjurer's catalyst, they definitely still have growth in terms of damage.
And their damage is ridiculous honestly.
Pure has to be addressed.
nothing
not just 2-0, tilt, I'm a 2-0, they crush them
XG is lucky, Enigma didn't make it further
he's lucky
Roki got China by the balls
Swiftflink, is this enough damage though? That's the question
It's not an overwhelming scary amount when my tumbling is in without the day
If you want to be to be activated then you need a super jarion
Spend some of his gold just for one second
I must feel it's a little sus to him and the refresher is obviously good for double axe ulti
but is that also like that intimidating the longer the game goes
Can anybody buy pipe? Like is that possible?
One pipe could do something at least here
That's something but who would like you don't want it in the scope of enemy force right that eggs old that eggs that shot
Yes crazy steels of the eggs that's right
Whoa, that's a nice catch nice suck to the silence big kill
He stole frost blast. Oh, no, we gave up dead shot with like two minute duration for floss, but oh, he has eggs
Okay, okay
I want to do what is worth.
Yeah, that was pretty bad.
I mean, is that a first-fall technically? Doesn't he have lift away? Does that not work?
Can't we just lift him away? Or does lich E stop it?
That sounds like a try. It probably stops it if you get him, you know, you use it after the lift.
But if he's getting sucked and then you lift, then it should be fine.
Yeah.
Yeah, he definitely did not get a lot of help.
anyone shows there in the mid it's slip then it doesn't work on rooms maybe it
counts as a route yeah I'm pretty sure also you can I don't know why I said
that but what about the hypnotize I think so still yeah yeah I don't see why
I'm gonna try to just share with you guys a wondering why you might pure to your team
maybe you're wondering the first 30 minutes but now is where it's he starts this pure
stonks are paying off he loves this part of the game
It's pretty large, right?
He has to put it in his inventory, so we'll see in a moment, but...
Yeah, so if you, uh, hit the face after...
Wait, wait, wait.
Then he's to cancel it.
I'm a pop pickybear, so it appeared, though.
They're going in a fight, he has A on the disc.
Let's see the backline.
Ex nobler, I got him pure a little bit.
Slept him.
To the left, to the left.
Nobody died.
Wow, nobody died.
Some spells were used, but nobody died.
Amazing.
Ooh, this guy's...
Slept, though.
Yeah.
Got an A on this, BKB, refresher used.
Okay, refresher used two eclipses there.
I did not feel that at all.
Ooh, I like this TP by Tundra.
Insta-crossing the map, because they expect the XG to be over here.
But XG's scanned at expecting them to do it.
High-level games.
High-level mind games right there.
A on this condom. I like this play.
Because this damage doesn't matter anyway.
It just gets in there, gets the spells off.
Can't get grift anymore, right?
go for it
in a pretty good position to take this rush
care kills me and stays at least past 2
that's a quick rush
it's not gonna roar either
yeah it's a lot of damage
what the hell is happening
oh they could have a double
just like that baby
definitely an opportunity
yeah you definitely take their fresh from a storm here I think
blew my hole
come in at them with this
he just cheesed refresh your shot
it's gonna be the best
I already kept their fresher huh
let this woodman get that too
All right, spice might be saving my stamp. Now we have a game. I think would say it's under our favorite with this ages
Not for sure
It did say that better late game. Let's see if we're fake newsing it or not
I'm a refresher eggs in my opinion 10 connect worth on him. It's like barely doing anything those of that symptom fresher
I feel like this is stuff on here Luna is like
It's with things like no, I you know, I should think I think you just fucked up. Yeah
Didn't he just fuck up? Why did he go? Why did he waste tanky golems with blue eggs?
I'm sorry, an eggs refresher. Imagine if you had two items that help him push and he went high ground with him.
Like they went. Wouldn't they have just won the game then?
But maybe he wouldn't have gotten to the high ground because he's ultimate is kind of like carry those pickups and fights.
Only a little bit I think. But I'm not sure. Most lunas don't go that build anymore.
That he's doing.
Doom applies Mute, here we go.
That Mutes, uh, Mutes, does it Mute A on this client?
No.
No.
Okay.
Actually, I have to try it, but I don't think so.
We're here to evaporate instantly.
Double doom, double pull scenario.
Execution for XG has to be perfect and they cannot be stacked up on top of each other.
I'm for Tundra.
We'll de-age some house.
Sort of confident that they feel it poking the high ground at the moment.
I don't know if they feel necessary too.
They're kind of happy to sort of wait until XG start coming out one by one.
I am gonna try a little fly die
Trying chat skits of conspiracies one at a time
Yeah, okay, you can do your akuna's elements
They do want that pick though, you can see Tundra, I'm very patient for it.
That's a test, it's gonna show.
They come, they can be popped, the doom is there.
Okay, a little bit, a little bit bad fight.
Yeah, yeah, this is very bad I think.
I mean, they thought the mute would come in time, but it didn't.
Now they're out of position, they need to get back a bit, not sending these routes.
Muerta is not moving, he's attacking, he can't hit shit, lift it in more.
Oh my god, the roots, the root fest. He's held this BKB the whole time.
Four staff out.
Oh wow, no way they saved that Aegis. Wow!
Who, that deadshot almost hit. BZM, can you relax? What is he doing?
He's poking on Neon, he's poking on Neon. There we go.
Alright, but they need to satanic up on Pyrrha and maybe they can go again.
Holy shit, those close.
Spicy.
Nobody dies somehow.
Hey, on discs we're forced.
Is this a stamped game?
We did stamp for Tundra, yes.
But it was a pretty suspicious stamp, I mean, you know.
I wasn't sure about it.
And we'll take a look at the tier list
how we're doing after this as well.
I think we're actually doing pretty good.
I mean, obviously I predicted Vici gaming and extra Connix
getting eliminated instead of Nigma and Heroic.
But they were both like close to each other in the tier list.
I put Nigma and Heroic bottom of B tier,
so it was pretty close anyway.
It's fine to be close, I'm not quite there.
I'm not so far.
Close but so far.
We'll see then, we'll see.
Yeah, right now it's looking extremely difficult for us to use the play.
A good pump, a good pump.
I got the refresh, refresh on storm, still haven't used it.
Now Thunra basically, since they have better late game, they basically have to save some buybacks, buy some A on discs.
Yeah, they already have a lot of a on discs, Lich and Doom already has it.
That is straight out of XG's playbook by the way, they used to do that all the time.
Go late game and buy a on discs, because nobody really wants to buy Nullifier, everybody
hates this item.
It feels bad, it's boring, it doesn't work when enemies are BKB'd, honestly if it just
did that, I feel like that item would be a lot better already, but yeah.
Yeah, they kind of hit the critical mass, they hit the shoot too, I haven't watched
Na'Vi much, if you watch Na'Vi games, you're like we haven't watched them at all.
They're number one in their group B, it's crazy.
Definitely a little surprising.
Egg's Nova.
Super sneaky words too, he's using the QB to cut some trees to put some words that are usually not anticipated.
Why do you just go by blink? Don't you need eggs on this here or something?
Isn't that a must so you can pull the wild you cast spells by?
Yeah, if you want to get them before beak against them.
I mean, they're like in the order you get it, you still get it, the Blitz.
Because you can still find it with a combo, it's just a little more awkward.
They have a ward on this high ground here that was placed by Ex-Nova earlier.
This is a bit deep though if they want to go there, let's see if they want to...
This is the showroom.
And if they got no one to resmoke?
Don't mind them make it just in time.
I think they make it just in time.
FY, he's got the blink clear.
No smoke's about to wear off.
He's doing just the job.
Oh, here we go.
Dead shot back.
They're trying something.
He clefts.
He has A on the side.
And he popped BKB.
He's chilling, he's chilling.
A on the scope.
Wait, pure.
What are you doing, pure?
He's creeped!
Oh, he got BKB!
He got everything off!
People say he walked up. He didn't even start hitting right away. They're kiting him well though dead shot on army
He's in man. Not able to finish anybody. You're fresh as an army travels to with the doom. Oh my god
What a play can they finish him though? It's not that easy dead shot away
You're blinking in here. It's going in. He's crazy, bro. This guy's nuts. XSS died
They were finished. We get these dead shots though by f1 so annoying
Wow, what a fight. That was a fun fight
pure was one HP and he's just like you know I'm gonna walk up two steps and
then press the Tannick no so close pure one HP is this what pure does guys you
know you will if you're a pro player guys you start playing as pure like
this is how you will feel a lot of the time you know like why is one HP the
It's a panic. That's what he does, you know.
That's what he does. He looks lucky.
He's on the edge.
back up 20 seconds and they could look to just go aggressive again 33 fixing the
bottom lane to pushing it all the way out
the Parasimus is starting to have some pretty significant damage output on this
both teams have to go for big enemy hold on, I am just going low on refresh game
he has hit the point where he is one of the strongest heroes on the map
that's a little bit no refresh on doom yet I mean it's but 33 looks a bit like he has
more room to go. No upgraded blink, no refresher yet. This is definitely some room to go.
Here and Luna are pretty much capped already. But the fact Doom and Storm are scaling is
much scarier than Penguin Underworld scaling, right? Like, at least especially Underworld.
Penguin still can get refresher, that's pretty good.
the way that the game is starting to settle. They're content with more growth, right? Sure,
you can still buy a new one. The game we lost by 33 not doing someone else. I mean, honestly,
if he does Doom, I mean, the funny part is, like, Dire don't really have a Lincoln spirit,
so I don't think it's that hard for him to Doom others. I think he could just Doom them.
Yeah, I don't like him, anyway, for sure. It's a lot of roots. Octurine is a real item
Like you go crazy. Oh, this could be another illusion bait
BQB Ruby. Oh, this is a game
This is a game you gotta focus Ruby like a core like he's doing too much
If he steals one or two good spells.
The Luna is actually pretty useless.
Ah, one hour item soon. Alert!
Who's babbling? It's Ame!
They're real babblers.
They're going, help him! He's dead! No!
He got off.
33 not dooming yet? Why not? Why is he holding it?
He's holding his doom!
He's crazy!
There it is! He found him, he's chasing him.
What's happening in the back though?
Are you in trouble?
Ah, he's- he's teeping in with the doom instead of going for a rubik!
That's actually a good target I think.
Fuck this rubik, right?
9 second BKB, but he's still dead, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Clearly.
Bi-backs coming, two Bi-backs each, two Bi-backs each.
Dead shot on the underlord.
UL, he's dead.
He has Bi-back too though, let's see.
They're chasing.
Can he get-
Fy would be a massive kill. He has no ban on BZM, he's going in, they're going to kill Fy, Fy no buyback, Fy dead.
What's happening in the back? Ori, one HP, ooh!
Ami can't fight, he's out of juice. I think Pyrr is way stronger in this stage, right?
Damn.
Holy shit.
Intense fight, intense fight.
I don't think you can contest it.
9.3k damage, yeah.
I mean, I mean, Amiga takes care of the damage,
but you can see he can't play the fight like Merta does.
Merta is constantly hitting, dude.
Constantly hitting.
And it's a really good focus on the Rubik, too.
There's Travels2 on Doom jumping in.
On the Rubik, it's so annoying for me.
I'm just getting chased by these super strong cores on top of them.
Ari, as well as FY.
I'm just not strong.
Look at his items.
He's not strong.
Yeah, but like, how can he change? I'm just tired of this.
He needs a date. He needed a... He just missed the whole timing, man.
He needed Adelos or something earlier. Now he's just...
You can't believe this is the timing you're talking about.
But I need to see Liquid...
Yeah, you do. Because Luna is 10-4 on this event.
And I'm telling you, nobody played Luna like this.
Nobody did Ag's refresh. Not a single one of the wins.
So I... Maybe one. I didn't see all of them.
But, yeah. The most common one is you end on the timing.
I don't know. I feel like he missed it.
Now he, of course, is weaker.
He's still not that weak, but he's weaker.
I need to I need to be a fact
yep they can hold there and they're very up I'm just thinking about the end of the
game or maybe 30 more the holy shit that's kind of nice to that you'll
charge us should be free they're ignoring the one our items not letting
I'm a baobo. What the fuck?
Swarm, that's a 50 months. I think nobody's gonna be baoboing anymore though guys. Baobo has 0% win rate. I don't think it's happening
Fuck
Happy evening out the Rexes
17 supernatural. Ooh, that's big actually
I'm gonna steal all this beautiful gold up here. I wish I could farm that.
That was like 800 gold. He's definitely not full-slotted. He's a refresher.
I don't see a fresher white that's so bad now that you don't get to VKB, so maybe he doesn't care.
Alright, one hour items. Let's see. Oh, oh, I'm a
What he was farming a neutral. It was under a ward. They have a ward up there. What a ward
My army
My army desperate to bubble, you know, once you choose the bubble the jungle it calls to you it whispers
You cannot resist it. Yes, it's understandable
You need to start bubbling is what he's saying
that there was a chance of that sort of move.
Vampiric Stygian.
But that's the most dangerous place.
Right next to your base is the most dangerous place
when you're behind trying to go for your neutral items like this.
Look at the corner which
Pango's farming in. He's farming in the bottom part of the map.
Okay, what did he get them with?
Ooh, there must be the Stygian, right?
Or Witchpane, both are good.
And then we'll see what he goes. He could go move speed,
he could go...
He could go spell amp even.
cool down reduction
Founders Kallus is busted is true. Okay. She went vampiric death the stinging. I think I like that too
I went to jump thin
Yeah, that's another side down they're gonna go for three here they're gonna go for three they have ages and no
I'm a
Oh, he didn't babble an army.
Oh my god, if he's babbling, no way.
Dude, that's the dream on Rubik.
If they hold here, guys, this is the most broken shit in Dota.
It's actually the best babble hero pretty much.
They clip some pure.
He does have Aegis though.
Army bought back.
I think you have to BKB and finish these Raxes.
He pre-swapped them BKBs, so he's going to like, let's go on an XSS, boom, blinked
in.
Still fine.
Oh, he found an angle. He got the Xnova. No buyback.
I'm going in, he's like, I'm the carry. I think you're pretty weak, I'm sorry, but let's see.
That's so sad. Blue hole. Here comes the doom. I'm out of juice. He was so done jumping in there, bro. He was so done.
Ah, GG's.
Tondo did it. Oh my god.
That was the armistice version of calling it.
That jumping right there was so mad, dude. He was so mad.
What was that jump? Nobody was stunning anybody. He just jumped in alone
What the fuck?
We ran out of eclipses. I think actually actually win this game if literally they
If just literally just a little bit different moon item build
I think I was the only way because they couldn't end the game and then
Moonminder super happy look at him. I was great comeback by Tom brother BGM redeemed himself
and they made it they're wanting his playtime they're going on the xg
1000 gpm holy moly
All right, that groups are settled guys
Thundra after starting a 0-3
Went three and four and into the upper bracket that's kind of a redemption story for them
Kind of redemption story playtime extreme lower
We don't talk about where nigma is
God damn.
Hero damage, not as low.
Doom had so little, but he's not really a damageor, I guess.
I might have a lot mostly from Eclipse, to be honest.
But pure damage was way more effective.
It was actually killing people.
It was very different.
This kill, though, oh my god, on BGM, that was legendary.
That was legendary.
Yeah, I don't think Astini was right about putting Nigma S tier, guys.
Not sure about that.
Not sure about that.
That was a great game though, good game to Endron.
So who plays Falcon now?
Let's look at the schedule, what's happening tomorrow.
Blitz said they're playing Paravision, right?
Let me just check.
Okay, so which one is playing Falcon?
I think Tundra is playing Falcon now, right?
Is that correct?
So it's Tundra versus Falcons tomorrow,
and then it's Spirit Betboom.
And there's only two a day or what?
Actually, no, there should be three a day, right?
I think there should be three a day.
am I crazy? May 19th. Yeah, okay, then it's Oroa Navi. Yeah, I see, I see. They skipped.
That was weird, scheduling, but yeah. That's cool. So Falcons versus Tundra first game
tomorrow in the Spirit Battle. That's hype, yes, that's hype. I'm very hyped. Where is
Nigma? They're in the finals, they're waiting. Put Nigma B tier and play time D tier. I mean,
I had to predict which team were making through the playoffs, right? I was hoping more that
Nigma would make it through over play time, but it didn't work out
They put them at the bottom of B, right? But honestly, the theory so far is working up pretty good
We'll see how it shakes out, but I didn't put it. I thought play time we get eliminated was close
I thought Vichy we're gonna eliminate was close heroic and
Nigma gonna limit himself which are at the bottom of B
Bottom of B
Falkens vs. Parry in finals I guess? I mean they look like the two strongest team. I think Falkens, Parry, I mean Tundra are leveling up. I wouldn't underestimate Tundra when they're leveling up either. They could get pretty far. They could get pretty far.
NIGMAS here, yeah for sure.
What did I consider?
They lost.
They lost.
Yeah, they lost.
Yeah, they lost.
Yeah, you missed.
It was a pretty high plus fight.
Ami definitely crashed out towards the end.
You missed the Ami crash.
A little bit, a little bit.
It was fun to see, so good comeback.
I mean, I think the Lunar item build was a problem.
Not about you, what do you think?
I don't think I think if they just handle that high ground better, I think it's fine
But I also need to see like a Mickey Luna
I'm I was out here alone farming
I mean, I'll show focus so much in this moment and this if you're a serious professional
Don't think you're gonna talk about how you should have end this game with the lead not how you played at 60
Two minutes, you know like at that point whatever you know, you should have won this game earlier on I'm in for sure
or sure
Did you see Isis Isis's new tech? No, don't tell me.
Is everybody taking around now? What's happening? Where's Isis Isis?
Oh, you find it.
Well, I can't find it. There's no tech.
Oh, it's at the top.
No, wait. Oh, there we go. Isis Isis's new tech.
double call-scarer reps excuse me nice nice nice new take
what is this stealing my copyright
what is it though
double call-scarer reps you sure use the word take
Okay, the Raps procs, he stole my techie, that's a good tech, that's
a good tech right there. Who wraps and you swap one out and you swap one in again? They
both proc? Amazing. That's a tech. Now that's worthy of a tech video actually. I cannot
believe it. People are teching. Like just coming ahead of us with all these techs now.
We're falling behind by it. It's teching all around you. Yeah, everyone's teching. Tech
mogged. It's over for my career of teching. I'm not sure if it's good actually but it's
worthy what do you say you paint pubs now or what's happening no more game nah i'm chilling right now
i'm chilling a little bit it's gonna be a long day tomorrow i think we're gonna take it easy for
today for sure no pubs i'm gonna go yeah your voice is struck me right i know it is
take a break with that yeah for sure right thank you thank you for coming bye bye bye bye
position 5 hero pool right now and is this just really good right now or is he the only good one
right now i'll say right now post five just need like the stable lands and what gives you more
about the teamfights yeah that's why like these leads or like techies or silencer of
Phoenix it's kind of pop off because you know just gives you a lot of teamfights
okay what you just mentioned basically anyone else coming by the bars and sugar
nah
four heroes you feel like there's a lot more untapped potential and not today
today we're chill or is this kind of it tomorrow's gonna be really long day though guys
there is like maybe more like potential like yeah i don't want to feel it like that's fine
That's fine. Keep the secrets, keep the secrets.
Gonna do a scuba arrow.
Gotta be real also, you guys have been struggling a little bit.
I don't know if you know what scuba does.
I know she's still making it to the upper bracket. That's fantastic.
So it seems like from my perspective, you guys are the most comfortable and clicking again with the team, with the current meta as well.
And I was hoping you could give me a percentage on how you feel you're doing if winning lands, which you have been doing obviously quite a lot this season, is 100%.
How are you at right now?
Um, I think right now we're all around like, uh, maybe like 60 or 50 something.
Ooh, I thought he was gonna say 60-70.
He's gonna say 60-70 for sure.
Where is all the percentage going?
Um, I don't know.
Sometimes we kind of mess up about the landing states or sometimes we'll be about the teamfights
and how do we play the maps, yeah.
so it's a little bit small things of everything they're just ass but they're
looking better already so I think tundra are leveling up their contender for top
three now hundred percent again going to the upper bracket
100%
dude they lost the fucking Reconyx
what a redemption story I think you guys also recall in that lane
Can you tell me what that's crazy about that land?
That land we just kind of like
mess up a bit the like
The killings I think we try to kill the silencer, but we we miss the jump and
Yeah, suddenly like there is big wave on us and they just keep spamming on us
I feel like if we can kill the silencer there, it could be good
But yeah, we just like miss the play and then after that
Yeah, they just like keep spamming on us and yeah, we're kinda like getting, you know
Yeah, so do you think that comes from having the wrong plan or is it just that the play came up and you guys misplayed?
I think it's just like some misplays, yeah
Okay, and when it comes to other position fives because I think I think I read that, yeah
You're one of the best post fives. Are there any post five players you look at for either warding or gameplay?
You know to improve your own gameplay still he's gonna say me guys
He's gonna say me
Or are you saying watch a song it's me. I'm every other post five when you're not just about to play them
I'm to join the mouse
or maybe about the like the movement something like that no booby-dota
Yeah, sometimes I look at it, but it's not really like
Important I would say yeah. All right. All right, guess you're just that good. That's it for me. Thanks
All right, why won't we gonna let you go congratulations on breaking out of the time break or successfully you're making it to that upper bracket
We'll see you tomorrow
Thank you, bye-bye.
No, Toby had a two-day career in mouse, what the hell happened?
What's the next game? There's no next game today, guys, so I'm going to go over the schedule for tomorrow.
I'm going to take it easy a bit today because I would normally stream a little bit of something now in the evening,
but my voice is giving up, so I need to rest as much as I can.
Aggro rest.
Tomorrow we have Falcon, let's say F5.
We have tomorrow Falcon's tundra at 1. That's going to be really hype.
And then we have Spirit Bedroom, also really hype.
Navi Aurora as well in the evening and that's gonna be tomorrow three best of threes like the huge like the huge
That's gonna be very good. And then we have lower brackets not starting until
Day after tomorrow, then we're gonna get a lot ton of eliminations. That's also gonna be fun
But yeah tomorrow the big boys are playing and this is another four five six days of playoffs guys. Let's go
Let's rest up a little bit. Yeah, I'm under streaming it with you guys, but I have to have
I'll be back tomorrow, thank you guys for watching the day, it was a bit more chill, short stream, thanks to Pi and Blitz for joining.
I'll see y'all tomorrow, okay boys?
I'll see y'all tomorrow, goodnight boys, goodnight, goodnight, goodnight.
Or good afternoon I guess, I don't know.
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