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type of fun that we're going to be having is the type of fun that we always have.
of folks. This is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news about what's
going on in the world of us on house and I'm going to time period where press the stop
shaman button, press the start shaman button. So help me God. That's what I'm going to do.
Because there's a lot going on in the world. And let me just say my body substitutes.
body update, medical update as always, some of the things that you guys like the most for
the parasocial hour, okay, because it's 10, 23 a.m. I'm live early, many of you are wondering
why I'm live early. Part of it is because I can't go to the gym. And part of it is
because, fuck, my foot hurts really bad now. My ankle and my back basically substitute.
one another like it either it either is my ankle that hurts a lot hurts like a
bitch or it's my back there's a good so good good news bad news good news back
doesn't hurt my Kirk is not hurting as bad today as opposed to yesterday when I
couldn't even move was really stiff but bad news my ankle hurts real bad but
the reason why I'm actually early break out the dogs show us you guys want to
see my freaking toes they're so busted look at this you guys say no but I'm
gonna show you anyway it's not I have a wrap on right now but look at that look
at that shit looks fucked bro it's all black and blue my down to my freaking
Toesies.
Swollen and weird.
Yeah, it is swollen and weird.
Anyway, there's a bruise line, bro.
I know.
Yeah.
Low Kurt.
Low Kurt.
They're going to have to cut it off.
Hopefully not.
Bro, why your toes weird?
No, the other dogs.
They meant Kaya and Phi Phi Kaya and Phi Phi are out and
about right now.
So they are not here.
They're out in the town.
Roman the streets. Yes, Dave Chappelle had a new comedy special. I did not actually see
the new comedy special, but I saw pieces of the comedy special and I'll obviously be talking
about the new comedy special that Dave Chappelle came out with where he had a lot of daggers
for everybody finally because all the fucking anti woke shit has gotten so out of control
that we low key low Kirk, we might have gotten Dave back a little bit. So that's
That's cool. You know, uh, and, uh, another, another moment for, um, woke his back, woke
2.0 Anthony Joshua beat the fucking doors, beat the doors off of, uh, Jake Paul.
Obviously this is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news and that's
precisely what I did last night with my dad and, and everyone else that was at my house.
watched. I tuned in to Netflix and I straight up watched Jake Paul get annihilated by the
behemoth himself. Anthony Joshua, uh, a two time heavyweight, uh, champion belt holder gave
the fucking belt to ask basically with Jake Paul. Obviously for like, you know, box boxing
enjoyers. It was disastrous. It was a disastrous performance because it looked sad. It looked
like a sad state of affairs. You have Anthony Joshua, the man with the legendary uppercut.
Uh, what is it? Like 28. I forget what his career looks like here. I'll just pull it up,
but like he, I mean, Anthony Joshua at some point was like, you know, one of the most,
one of the most famous boxers on the planet, one of the most famous athletes on the planet,
and heavyweight belt holder, heavyweight unified world heavyweight championship winner from
2017 to 2019, then 2019 to 2021, has this long ass career, 36 years old from the fucking
in UK, yeah. And he's 6'6", 245 pounds. He's a psycho, right? Only had four losses in his
entire career. And it's wild to me that this was even a thing that Jake Paul would have
attempted. Like it's just the hubris. Like this is a gold medalist boxer. You're out
of your freaking mind, right? Like this is a real boxer who isn't, you know, um, super
far out from his, uh, from his career peak, right? Like he's, yeah, he's not at his peak,
but he's not super far. He's not like 50. He's not 40. He's not fighting. Um, he's
not fighting a guy in his life, 40s or even older than that. It's not Mike Tyson, right?
You're fighting a guy who is, who's 36 years old, who until recently held the belt for,
for heavyweight, uh, uh, heavyweight champion. And it's crazy cause like Jake Paul doesn't
have the reach. Jake Paul doesn't have the weight and Jake Paul doesn't have the
skill so it doesn't it doesn't make any damn sense that he would even that he
would even try to attempt such a thing and I think like maybe if it wasn't
Anthony Joshua and the and the the size disparity the reach disparity the skill
gap wasn't so severe he could have potentially tried to like wear down his
opponent, um, and, and, uh, you know, potentially make him annoyed enough to open up. Cause like,
there was a point where there was a point where, where Anthony Joshua for the first
five rounds is like pretty restrained. Okay. First five rounds, he's very restrained so
much so that it almost feels like there was a contractual obligation or something.
I'm not going to be like a, like a scripture here.
I'm not going to say that it was scripted or anything like that, but, but, um, it
does, it does, it did feel to me like he was just like testing it, you know, he was
just like opening up a little bit, uh, weighing the distance with his left, you
know, some, some jabs, jab, jab, jab, um, really, really, uh, restrained and, uh, keeping
up his pacing, keeping up his breathing. Meanwhile, Jake Paul is sitting across from him. And
now this is an incredibly impressive feat as well. The fact that like Jake Paul even
put himself out there with a, with a Titan like Anthony Joshua is, is, you know, is
impressive. If you're, uh, willing to get your ass beat, you're willing to get
You know, there's nothing to it and he did right?
Um, and it's crazy because like
it's a
He was just running around. He was running around the entire fucking ring
And there were a couple moments where he did actually have a couple decent dodges Jake Paul did right?
But ego takes you only so far
right? Ego takes you so far. I guess it was the the shit ton of money that he was making off of
this event. That was the reason why he was doing it along with the ego. But he, I guess his technique
was to just like really piss off Anthony Joshua. I guess it was his goal was to just like annoy him,
survive as many rounds as he possibly can, annoy the fuck out of him to a degree where like
Like he just put drops his guard and then he can get a couple sneak hits on it.
Okay.
And, and it almost worked like it almost worked like rage baiting your opponent to that degree
almost work because he did have a couple moments, but because he was so fucking fat
and so worn out, okay.
Because he was so fat and so worn out and those three minute rounds are devastating
especially if you're, again, sitting in front of a fucking monster who's sitting at 6'6",
245, you know, 245 pounds. There were a couple moments where he did actually get a couple
decent hits on Hinton's Joshua, but one of the funniest things I saw,
one of the funniest things I saw in the fight was Jake Paul, I think it was in the fifth
round or something. Um, he, he actually gets a pretty solid hit on Anthony Joshua. Okay.
And what's crazy about it was crazy about it is
he ate it, AJ ate it and it was nothing. Like it felt like he ate the hit and it wasn't even like
Oh no, I got hit. Like there was no, it immediately connected with Jake Paul. Like immediately,
like didn't even brush it off. Just went, uh, and then boom,
it was so fucking crazy to me. And I think it was probably because at that point, Jake Paul was
dying. And the reason why, I mean, his technique was pretty obvious, you know, run around, try to
to make up for the reach disparity by annoying him and causing him to drop his guard at some
point so he can get a couple sneak hits. It didn't work because the first five rounds
Anthony Joshua was very restrained and consistently kept his distance and was like trying to
land some normal hits from afar, trying to find an opening so he can do is trying
to find an opening with the right uppercut at any point. He didn't really have any opportunities
for that. But, but because Jake Paul had no, uh, I mean, because Jake Paul did not have
the cardio, the necessary cardio to be able to keep up with him like that. Um, obviously
she just kept diving. He kept diving and, and he kept clenching over and over again,
the goal of regaining his, uh, his breath, but he just kept, he just kept fucking clenching
up every single time. And it was so obvious that he was just like clenching off her dear
life because he was just gas. He was so fucking gas, even from the first round, that was,
it was obvious that that was what he was going for. He broke Jake Paul's guard. It
was a sparring match for him. Not a fight. Jake Park, the outskilled the champions
train for 15 to 20 rounds. No, I know. I want to sub to you because you're actually base,
but I'm afraid if I get banned, wait, what? Why would I ban you? Unless you say some dumb
shit. And I think AJ was trying not to underestimate him to avoid an embarrassing upset. Once he
He saw Jake was tired. He closed in. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was obvious. It was obvious
to me. Yeah, this is, this is the funniest thing. Like he posted this shit, right? He
posted this shit except what came immediately after this direct hit was an unfazed Anthony
Joshua immediately landing a right shrinking Jake Paul's already tiny brain ever more.
I could not believe it. I was like, damn, he actually did get a couple.
He actually did get a couple, but like,
he literally just,
Anthony Joshua ate that like it was a tickle, dude. It was crazy.
And Jake Paul already has like three fucking neurons left up there.
And he just eradicated the remaining three neurons is wild.
I assume Jake Paul's brain is,
is now smaller than the size of a walnut smoother than a chicken breasts.
Yeah, his ass got no folds left, bro. He just fucking Anthony Joshua cleaned out the remaining
folds that he had up there. Just flattened it out. The remaining wrinkles up there are
gone. Okay. Doctors at the end of the day are going to look at Jake Paul's brain is
like the most, like the biggest victim of CTE of all time.
But in any case, in any case, um, yeah, it was, it wasn't like great to watch from a,
you know, technical boxing perspective. And I totally understand that if you're like
a fan of good boxing or whatever. Of course you're not going to, you're not going to appreciate
this fight because it doesn't feel like a fight at all.
Um, but it was, um, you know, it was fun specifically because this Jake Paul and he's
a villain and he's getting his fucking ass beat. That was fun for me. I watched it for
that reason. Cause I watched it thinking, I watched it going in and I think a lot of
people had the same opinion, right? Where I suspect you guys were all thinking the
Same thing I was thinking was like, this is scripted, right?
Like they're going to do like a hundred million dollar play here.
Anthony Joshua is going to disappoint by, you know, taking a dive or something.
Maybe like, um, you know, maybe it's just, uh, I don't know.
I just never think that Jake Paul is actually going to do it.
Honest fight, right?
I just don't, I don't think that that was going to happen, right?
One thing people need to realize that Jake is not a YouTuber.
He's a boxer. He's been training for seven full years to put that into perspective. Joshua
became world champion eight years after he started training. Yeah. Also, no, Jake Paul
is a fucking YouTuber still at this point because just because someone has been training
boxing for seven years doesn't mean that they're actually a skilled boxer. That's
the difference between someone who might not be at his prime, but it's still like
very clearly a world title holder versus Jake fucking Paul who's been training
for seven years. There are plenty of people who I think in the in the in the professional
sphere that if they also tried to like find themselves in a comparable weight class to
Anthony Joshua with tremendous reach disadvantage who are professional boxers who've been boxed
like seven years you'd probably still get the fucking doors knocked off of them okay
in any case um
seven years of training don't mean shit if you're seven years of ass
seven years of training don't mean shit if you're fighting
like it's only significant for someone like myself like i would not be able to fight any of
of these people. Okay, Jake Paul, probably a much better boxer than me, right? But I'm
not a boxer. You know, do you see what I'm saying? So if you're trying to make a name
for yourself as like, you know, in the boxing world, and you're just consistently beating
people that are way, way past the point of their prime, like super fucking old. Yeah,
shit eventually you're going to run into a person who's going to
you
you
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So, you know, to give credit to Jake Paul, the fact that he was even capable of sitting
in the ring with a, with a monster like Anthony Joshua, respect. Okay. Um, I think it's, it's
really fucking annoying that he, I mean, there is this like, uh, w w e-ification
of boxing. So I assume that like the fans of the sport will get really annoyed with
Jake Paul, but everyone hates Jake Paul like everyone there's something here for everybody, right?
There's something here for everybody because it's like we we watch it and we're like oh thank god
He's getting his fucking ass whooped like oh Jesus Christ finally
Especially when he'd like would put himself around
Legendary characters that are way past the prime by dangling a shit ton of fucking
and a shit ton of money in front of them, like, you know, putting, just like exploiting
the, the, uh, like former symbols, right? Former, uh, symbols of boxing and shit like
that. It's just very frustrating to see. And I totally understand that even though
I myself, I'm not like a, like a fan of the sport and a, or a fan of the, the professional
sport in general. But did the guy knock Jake out? He didn't have like a full blown knockout
like in the way that you, in the way that Jake was like frazzled, but yeah, he did knock him out.
Double broken jaw. He would have, he would have had a better knockout. If Jake Paul didn't,
I think if he didn't actually quit, because the last one, basically the last one
Look, first five rounds, Anthony Joshua was just like, not really opening up. Okay. Not
really opening up at all. But I think there was a point where, where Jake Paul actually
did take advantage of him, uh, uh, trying to punch and then, and then land one right
here. And I think after that it was like, it was over at like, cause the fifth round,
see like an attitude shift you see an attitude shift from Andy Joshua where he's like alright
I'm done like I'm done I need to he's he's tried to he's trying to clinch up every time
I fucking hit him so I think what he was going for I think what he was going for I suspect
was at any time Jake would just drop his guard and try to duck another one of his like
jabs or when he was doing a combo I think he was trying to go he was trying to
hit him with a fucking right uppercut while Jake was on the way down trying to dodge but
that never happened if he had done that he would have fucking killed him I think that's
what it feel like that's what it felt like to me watching from afar that he was like
trying to go for trying to hit him with an uppercut while Jake was going down after
a combo and he could have killed him there he could have killed him there but he did
not do that. But he did actually, he did actually destroy the fuck out of Jake Paul's jaw. There's
a x-ray broken in two different places. So congratulations, Jake Paul is going to shut
the fuck up for once.
Um, was very disborded. Jake wasn't rolled out. I mean, dude, he, I mean, this was embarrassing.
Even if you are not, even if you're not like a super big boxing fan, you watched a villain
of the internet, a villain of society run around on his hands and knees basically begging
not to get his ass beat by this behemoth of a man who ended up beating the fucking doors
off of him.
Are you kidding me?
He still made a bag, but you know, that's how it goes.
I like to think that this is, oh yeah, this is the moment where Jake landed a hit and then
immediately hit it.
Oh, he's not taking a little punch in very well, but that punch right there, from Jake
Paul with the cleanest shot of Jake Paul.
Yeah.
People should walk away with three things I've seen with Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua
if all the cryptocurrency dildos are just like trying to find a way to make this seem
favorable to Jay Paul. Jay Paul's one of the toughest boxers in modern history. No, he's
not. Like what the fuck? What are we? Why would he be one of the toughest boxers in
modern history? I don't know shit about boxing and even I know that's not the case.
Like, that's such an insane thing to say.
What a crazy statement.
Yeah, for a random guy off the street, sure.
Yeah, it's impressive if it's like a dude who's never trained,
who put himself in a serious competition
with a world-class world champion boxer.
but he's at this point he's trying to make a name for himself as like a career
boxer it's just not gonna work be careful he's gonna challenge you next yeah
I'm not gonna fucking fight Jake Paul dude I don't have seven years of boxing
training and shit you know what I mean yeah sure you beat my ass okay I'll
give a fuck I know where my skills lie okay the fuck are we doing this is
what I mean, guys, I'm a 34 year old adult who is a political commentator. What are we
doing here? Are we having like, are we every 14 years? Oh, we're like, oh, I could be him.
Okay, sure.
Anyway
He landed clean shots on AJ despite having every disadvantage nobody can say he rigs his fights anymore
Yeah, my ankles got destroyed fucking running down a basketball court. Okay
Okay. But in any case, um, that was, uh, that was fun. That was a fun, uh, exciting thing
to watch because of the way it ended. And I think, um, yeah, overall, I think woke us
back. I think that's what took place here. Cause like Anthony Joshua for, for the ball
All knowers is considered a anti white racist or a black supremacist racist as well.
So like that, that even, that makes this fight even funnier, okay.
And obviously Jake Paul is like MAGA.
I think there was a point where he said something about like, like a black boxer where he was
like, this was disrespectful to the supreme black race or something.
He just said something like that.
He says something along those lines and then people were like, you're being fucking racist.
You're being fucking racist.
Oh, the other thing, dude, watching Jake Paul like actually be fucking terrified.
You can tell Jake Paul thinks he deserves to live.
No, this was, that was also a very, very, bro, it's simply African.
What do you mean he's a black supremacist?
I'm not saying that dumbass.
I'm saying that that was the fucking controversy around him. We're like, why people got in their
fucking feelings? Which is why I'm saying that this, this makes it even funnier. Chill
fuck head, bro. You're the one who got mad at me. The fuck misunderstanding my point.
That's what people were crying about. Okay.
A.J. is a good example of what's wrong with mass immigration. First of all, he's
He's an anti-white racist, as per his speech during BLM protests where he called for blacks
not to use white businesses.
Secondly, he weighs around a third world flag as of his worthy of respect and represents
in my prediction, he will, first of all, he lived in Nigeria, okay?
Like it's perfectly valid for him to promote a country that he lived in, like his own
personal background, like he's Nigerian, he's of Nigerian descent.
Why the fuck wouldn't he rep that?
people sometimes feel so jealous almost like I swear to God when people when people get mad at this shit
When people get mad at stuff like this it almost feels like you're just upset
You're just jelly that you don't have anything that you can like point to beyond. I don't know jelly deals or some shit. Okay
Like what is this fucking fragility?
But this is why I'm saying like woke is winning again, okay?
Third wheel flag.
Third wheel flag, yeah, fuck it up, baby, baby, baby, baby, shut the fuck up, bitch.
Anyway, um my point is woke is back
It's very obvious that woke is back
And these guys are hating it these guys are hating that woke is back. Okay
Hold on let me post I'm gonna post these
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Last night was a big hit. Remember, remember, anti woke was popping. Anti woke was popping last year.
What happened last year? What happened last year with Mike Tyson? A Maoist.
that was a telltale sign that anti woke was popping off. What's going on now is that woke
is fucking back. You feel me? You understand? It's very clear. That is my my takeaway.
Okay. That is my takeaway from this. Mike Tyson is a Maoist. Yeah. I'm well, he's everything.
Let's just, let's just move off or Mike Tyson's background as a, as a champion, a woke, cause
he's not, but I was trying to, I was trying to make the joke fit. Okay. I was trying
to structure it in a way that it fucking makes sense shut up
bros posting like he won the coat with a double broken jaw I know I know I know I
know he is yeah Jake Paul broke his jaw in two different places there's like the
x-rays they came out actually it's not great not looking too great for our
boy. Um, but yeah, boy, AJ was cheese in better angle. Oh, this was, yeah, yeah, yeah, this
is like, is this edited? Because it looks like it looks like a meme. We're like, wait till
you find this one, wait till you find was coming next. Oh, this is edited. Okay, it's
edited. Okay. Cause AJ is Nigerian when he loses and British when he wins. I mean, that's
usually the case with a lot of non-white, uh, supremely talented athletes. They, they
always do that in Europe. Some do it even when they win though, to be fair, like there's
some, the racism in Europe, European racism hits way different, bro. It's, it's on a
a different playing field honestly. I don't think it's edited. Oh no, he is laughing. It's
not it's not a joke. That smile is what crocodile do before they chop like look he is actually
He is actually smiling like if you see the in the video, like you see it, look, look, look, look, look at his face.
Most solid spoke out once against his manager and the media started calling him Mohammed solid. Yeah, that's all it takes. Usually.
Oh, but it was great. It was great. It was fantastic. It was fun. It was fun watching all the fucking racist Mald
There was also like a there was also a very strange
There was also a
very strange
character
That I wonder if you guys saw like if you want to understand like the Jake Paul
boxing fans and the mentality and the behavior that they represent it's this
fucking guy I think that perfectly represents this look look as soon as I
saw this I couldn't I was like there's no fucking way dude like this guy is out
of his mind look look watch look at this guy
I
Bro you are a gross person man, what the fuck like this is not even awesome like woke shit, okay?
Please what the fuck like what the fuck are you doing?
I mean it is awesome woke shit, too, and I suspect that they're there together, but like
But like what the fuck are you doing?
like what are you doing?
What are you?
What is this, bro?
What is this?
What the hell it?
Like what the fuck?
Why did you think that this is?
Why did you think you wanted to?
Why did you think this would be a good way to show yourself to the rest of the planet?
Okay?
Not all men, but somehow always a man, you know how they say that?
That's how I feel right now a little bit is but even like beyond even beyond like the the the fucking
Even beyond like the the fact that he's just like
Simulating the sexual assault on on Netflix for some fucking reason like do you think this makes you look cool or good?
What the fuck are you doing, brother?
It makes no damn sense to behave like this.
A white man, I'm posting like a race realist right now.
Hey, you go was there a you go raid you got Nick Ray. Hey, shout out to my shout out to
my Balkan brother. Hope you had a good stream. Okay, stop making me rewatch instantly. I just
think this is like, this is the perfect demonstration of just like Jake Paul fans
and like Jake Paul fans and just like right wingers in general, like the alpha guys,
You know what I mean? The men's right, uh, activists, watchers, cause like, listen, we, like contextually,
contextually there are, there are places like me and will do shit like this to one another
as like best friends, you know what I mean? Like, but this is such a fucking gross and
weird thing to do. Do you see what I mean? Like, I'm not even, I'm not even going to
sit here and be like, Oh, this is always unacceptable. Like there's never, it could
never happen. It's like there's time and place. You know, I feel like I feel like you thought
in your head when you went in for this that you were going to look so cool.
Like, look at me with the girl I brought to the Jake Paul fight.
That's like, that totally out of my league.
Let me fucking dominate her a little bit.
Let me, let me look like a pervert real quick.
Hold up.
Let me look like a fucking pervert.
I don't think he brought her. She's a stranger. She's in front of the barricade and he's behind.
No, no, there's no way. No, there's no way that that seems far fetched. That seems a
little insane. I'm, I'm, I'm ready to believe that that's his sister before I'm ready
to believe that that's like a stranger. You know what I mean? And even that, I don't
think is likely. I love being a woman. Anyway. Oh, they also remember the photo that we caught
on the Jeffrey Epstein files like they removed it. Anyway, let's, let's blast off. I forgot
Cause I was talking about the Anthony Joshua beat down, um, the, the fucking, uh,
the beat down on anti woke from AJ, uh, it, it was very exciting.
But, uh, we got, we obviously have a lot to cover today.
There's a lot going on today.
Uh, and they're calling AJ joyboy.
It was, it was a joyboy ass moment, dude.
I could hear the drums of liberation in my head.
I could.
What do they remove?
Hold on.
We're going to get into that.
Now, part of the reason why I started early today, part of the reason why I started early
today is because there's a lot of news to cover, but also because Ro Khanna is coming,
Ro Khanna is coming over, which is probably not something that you ever thought you
would hear on this broadcast, but Ro Khanna will be in the building in a little bit and
in an hour. And we're going to be talking about the Jeffrey Epstein stuff quite extensively.
As you guys know, he's, as you guys know, he is one of the main Democrats in Congress
that has been leading the, I mean, he goes everywhere. That's true. Yeah, he does go
but live early.
Rokana in the building.
Epstein to talk Epstein to talk Epstein files
files. And next steps. FC files release flop. As Trump is redacted. DPS a drama turns ugly clandest
jobs anti-Semitic alt hog watch and more get in now rose coming to your house
because he wants your support when he announces candidacy for the presidency
hey listen listen all I'm saying is you don't treat me better I'll do it are you
to give a critical interview or are you going to just hang out and talk Epstein? I mean we'll talk
about a bunch of other stuff too but it's mostly going to be about Jeffrey Epstein.
Um thank you to Macy's for the playlist.
for your title it's Kana with two ends it is it already has two ends in the
title
anyway
Candace first because girl please I mean I covered Candace a little bit
yesterday, but it is pretty crazy that she, um, so Ben Shapiro called that Candace Owens,
uh, for being anti-Semitic and a conspiracy theorist. And I fucking despise Ben Shapiro.
Obviously, as you guys know, part of the reason why I despise Ben Shapiro is because he literally
made Candace Owens. Um, and, and, uh, and it's a, it's this weird situation because
like, you know, I, I think I go back and forth on this because like from an American
domestic politics perspective, they're both horrible, right? They both believe in pretty
much all the same shit, except on Israel and on anti-Semitism, right? Ben Shapiro and Candace
Owens are identical in their worldview in virtually every single thing. But the place where Candace
Owens actually comes across as a more popular figure or has like the moral position is
Israel. However, what's guiding her Israel position is anti-Semitism. And the place where
Ben Shapiro is supposed to come across as the more moral, more coherent person is anti-Semitism.
But Ben Shapiro is very pro-Israel. So this is a unique predicament. And the same goes
for the entire like Tucker Carlson and all these other people. This is not a defense
of, you know, Tucker Carlson or Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens in any way, shape or form,
it's more so to tell you that like they have morally repugnant worldviews that are damn
near identical. And yet for some reason liberals look at this with the exception of, you
know, people in this community we watch obviously from afar and we're enjoying the explosion,
The implosion of right-wing infighting, the ideological differences that play here and
the sharks that are out, because there's blood in the water and everyone is trying to basically
take advantage of the void that Charlie Kirk kind of left here a little bit.
And the additional media attention that's come in the direction of Candace Owens and
many others.
Some people are jealous.
Some people want to take on that mantle as like the top dog in the right-wing
commentary sphere. It's perfect. It's everything I could have ever wanted. Didn't get the link
again. Can you please send? Yeah, you got it. Don't worry.
likely is that Trump is going to try and get himself on a dollar probably.
Massey is terrible on everything except Israel. Please don't ever platform Massey. I mean,
this is what I mean. It's like Thomas Massey is another great example of this where like
I do think he's sincerely anti Israel. I think he's sincerely anti, you know, Jeffrey
Epstein. And he has played a much more important role in my opinion in the release
of the Epstein files than even someone like Marjorie Taylor Green has, right? So these
are weird allegiances that are forming. I don't think these are long standing allegiances.
This chat is filled with TikTok leftist with the fuck are you saying platform Massey?
I know that's, there is no platforming a congressperson. Everyone is being stupid
about that stuff. I don't really care about that. Having said that though, yeah,
Hassan might give Thomas Massey-Claw, I know. Having said that though, there is this strange new
boundary specifically around, specifically being built around Israel. But what's interesting about
the boundary around Israel is that it's not like a single issue that doesn't touch anything
else. As a matter of fact, it's almost, it's one of those things that is all-encompassing
in very meaningful ways, partially because of the pro-Israel contingency and how much
it has embedded itself in American domestic affairs.
Because this isn't like, like if I was running around, I don't know, talking about one angle,
like even if I was, let's say I'm like anti-Ukraine, right?
And there are plenty of these guys out there who are like anti-Ukraine.
think, you know, Russia should just take over, yada, yada, yada.
There is not a lot of conversations you can have beyond just making your case for why
you're anti-Ukraine, why you're pro-invasion of Russia or why you think America shouldn't
give any aid, render any aid to Ukraine whatsoever, right?
But the conversation basically ends there because the advocacy groups are not as
as aggressively involved in meddling with like domestic affairs. The advocacy groups are not as
they're not as as there is no like censorship for example. There's no censorship demands coming from
you know Zelensky that comes out and goes like Mr. President, they are talking shit about Ukraine
about the Ukraine, you must make sure that they are fired, you know, like that doesn't happen.
There isn't like a like a Ukraine pack that demands
fealty, you know, that there is no like, there's the Votnik soup guy, but there is no
like stop anti-Semitism version of like Ukraine. There is no like stop anti-Ukrainianism
them or something, right? Like it doesn't, a lot of Aids am I in the chat report it? I
already banned them. You guys are still fucking on it. Like I personally banned them immediately.
Okay. The reason why I bring this up is because like the reason why I bring this up
is because it's like, obviously, obviously a more significant part of like domestic affairs
than other foreign policy issues are, even though foreign policy, of course, is foreign policy almost always has a domestic impact, right?
So the reason why I say like the Israel thing is a little bit different is because of the
way that pro-Israel advocacy groups have embedded themselves deep into the orifices of American
society. And oftentimes portray themselves as Jewish advocacy groups. Almost always
portray themselves as Jewish advocacy groups. And this has created a unique
environment. Obviously one of the things that we are going to be talking
about today is the Epstein files. And one of the ways in which I think the
Epstein files are relevant and significant. One of the major ways in which they are obviously
relevant and significant is around Jeffrey Epstein's affiliation with potentially our
intelligence community, CIA, and also the Mossad, the Israeli spy agency. And yet
That mainstream coverage around that has almost always been either completely omitted from
the conversation, or when it's even covered at all like the NPR coverage around it, is
presented as an anti-semitic conspiracy, right?
To which I said, one must wonder why any kind of suggestion that Epstein could be an
asset for Israel, as well as the U S is only referred to as an anti-semitic conspiracy in
major media, when there are thousands of emails between Amstein and the former prime minister
of Israel. And there's very little coverage on this, on major media. Like this is yet another
one of those moments where I think this is yet another one of those moments where
the blood libel or anti-Semitism allegations.
Sorry, but now I care far more about how people
in our actual government were related.
Vassal states are secondary to that.
Wait, what?
No, my point is Israel doesn't operate like a vassal state.
Do you understand the broader point that I'm making?
That's it.
That's the issue.
When you have American media, American legacy publishers refusing to cover this connection
between our intelligence community and the Israeli intelligence agencies with a man who
is seemingly the most infamous person in American news right now, Jeffrey fucking Epstein, being
the connective tissue there and that connection is never brought up and the only times where
it's ever brought up is to say is to disparage and to basically say this kind of this this
kind of connection is simply anti-semitic this kind of connection that you're making
is simply anti-semitic we will not cover the the deep ties that Jeffrey Epstein very
clearly had to Israel. We will not cover the ties that Jeffrey Epstein had with the former
prime minister and other Israeli spies and things of that nature, even though all of that is
clearly being discussed in independent media because Jeffrey Epstein's emails are out there
for all to see. And then people fucking say that this is anti-semitic. It's crazy. What
is AU? AU interviewed BB? Who's AU? BB on Australian news, talking about Palestinians?
Oh.
Is that simple?
Here's Representative Thomas Massey. I've seen it close ties to our own intelligence
and Israel's intelligence agencies.
That's why they're trying to stop this.
Working so hard not to get them released for so many months.
What do you think the real reason is?
These files implicate billionaires and friends of him,
of his, and of political donors that he's trying to protect.
And Epstein also had close ties to our own intelligence
agencies and Israel's intelligence agencies.
That's why there's so much effort in trying to stop this.
And I do believe they'll try to stop it somewhere else.
And that's going to backfire on them, too.
So the President.
So that was, there's two different angles here
that are obviously very interesting.
Number one, after a joint initiative from Thomas Massey,
who we just saw, and Ro Khanna and numerous other Congress
persons that pushed for the Epstein Files Release Act, which got so much public pressure
that it actually caused even the Republicans to say, all right, fine, we'll release the
files and Donald Trump actually signed it, right?
They were forced to release the Epstein Files yesterday in accordance with the law, except
The law was very clearly designed to ensure that some of the things that the DOJ did did
not happen at all.
For example, the heavy-handed redactions that the Department of Justice lawyers engaged
in directly contradicts the Language of the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which
directed the DOJ to provide internal communications regarding their decisions.
Not only did they actually hit the heavy marker, the heavy black ink marker, and we saw hundreds
and hundreds of pages.
According to the BBC, over 90% of the files were redacted.
We still haven't even seen the entirety of the files at all, right?
And there were instances where like there were some publicly available photos, for example,
that were redacted as well.
Do you have any idea what they would put the image of MJ and Diana Ross with their
kids?
That's Paris and Prince Jackson and MJ's kids and Diana with their daughter, the
unredacted photos public on the internet. That could have been an accident. That could
have been a mistake or they could have made it so that it looked worse for Bill Clinton
or something. But it's very obvious that it was like, it was very obvious as I called
months ahead of time that they would just simply dangle some red meat in front of the
base by saying, look, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, don't look at Donald
Trump. He's not in any of the photos. Don't look at Donald Trump. Donald Trump was
not in the files at all. Donald Trump was not related to the Jeffrey Epstein at all.
And they went through and basically hid every single instance of Donald Trump, with the exception
of one photo that they missed, okay?
And the reason why we know that they absolutely heavily redacted Donald Trump is partially
because there were plenty of photos of Donald Trump that the House Oversight Committee had
actually released from the Epstein files, okay, ahead of time, none of them were
in the fucking Epstein files, okay?
And this photo, file 468 from the FC files that includes Donald Trump, has reportedly
now been removed from the DOJ site release per oversight fence.
So we found this photo on stream.
And we realized, we realized when we found this photo, that they had forgotten to redact
Donald Trump in this photo because he wasn't the main thing in the photo, right?
he was in the actual cupboard, in the actual drawer, they forgot to redact this photo.
So this is one of the only, this is one of the only fucking photos in the entire Jeff
Ray Epstein files where they forgot to remove Donald Trump or redact Donald Trump. Only because
it most likely slipped past the AI detectors or most likely slipped past the 200 different
Department of Justice auditors and lawyers that were looking at this because it was
in the cupboard and you can barely see his fucking face. Now, now they deleted this photo
as well. They took it out of the fucking Department of Justice release after people noticed that
they had failed to redact one of the photos of Donald Trump. It's like they're trying
to look guilty. It's so fucking insane. And we know this not only because of the discrepancy,
but we also know this because Todd Blanche, former Trump defense attorney Todd Blanche,
current deputy attorney general, Todd Blanche,
sent a statement to congressional Republicans
in which he admitted that not only had they redacted
1200 victims from the Epstein files
in order to preserve and protect their identities,
but they had also,
They had also redacted the names and identifiers in the same exact standards applied to the
victims of politically exposed individuals and government officials.
Yeah, from the Epstein files, during one of those encounters at Epstein, he took her to
Mar-a-Lago where he introduced her to its owner, Donald J. Trump.
Introducing the 14-year-old dough to Donald J. Trump, Epstein elbow Trump, playfully asking
him, referring to dough, this is a good one, right?
Trump smiled and nodded in agreement.
They both chuckled and dough felt uncomfortable, but at the time was too young to understand
why.
And the suspicion is maybe they didn't redact like all of the mentions of Donald J. Trump,
but instead redacted the mentions of Donald Trump, but it's pretty crazy.
It is pretty fucking crazy that they were so heavy-handed and so incompetent that they
fucked it.
They fucked it up again, as I told you they would.
And now they're over-correcting and deleting with a heavy hand whatever mentions of
fucking Donald Trump even exist.
Part of this is because obviously there is an overwhelming amount of data here and it's
very difficult to just, I guess even with the months and months that they had.
Thank you, chatter.
This is a beautiful drawing.
I love it.
At least you didn't make me look bald this time, so respect.
Are they incompetent or is there a queue leaving breadcrumbs?
No man, they're fucking incompetent. Okay, they're incompetent. Always rely. Never rely
on the Democrats to actually do the right thing and fight back. Always, always expect
the administration to be incompetent. Always. What is this? Is this photo real? Not a joke?
What? No, I don't think this is real. No, it's not. It's not.
be mean. Magicalt is waiting for new instructions on how to defend South and child sex trafficking.
But the thing is, but the thing is like people have seen these files, Ro Khanna seen these
files. I'm going to talk to him directly today in, in about half an hour. And Thomas
Massey has seen it. One of the major things that Thomas Massey said yesterday that
that I thought was very important was by the time Friday rolled around, if they did not
have 20 to 25 co-conspirators, men that were outed as engaging in illicit acts alongside
Jeffrey Epstein, that would imply that they actually redacted the names of all of those
co-conspirators. And we do not have 20 to 25 names right now. You see it? You feel
me. And the only place where we know the same number 25 that the only reason why we know
that the 25 number, aside from Thomas Massey was mentioned, was in the Giselaen Maxwell
court deposition or the court filings for Giselaen Maxwell, where in the court filings
that they did not redact, they say there were 25 co-conspirators, there were 25 co-conspirators
who got separate deals, okay? So obviously, so very clearly these guys, very clearly these
These guys just went in with the heavy black ink pen and just took out every mention of
Trump and Trump affiliates and maybe even like other super wealthy people.
Okay?
Every day that goes by as like the Alex Joneses of the world actively try to defend the Trump
administration and like the QAnon guys try to fucking still hold on to a crumb of hope
for Donald Trump being the pedophile destroyer is another day where they are further vindicated
in their initial suspicion that there is this like deep state elite pedophilic cabal taking
place.
And it's so funny that they literally ran on that that was their galvanizing principle.
That was what they organized around the notion that there are like elites that
are engaging in illicit sexual acts and there's this deep state pedophilia conspiracy.
And now that there is more evidence to suggest that maybe it's not a conspiracy theory, but
it could be real, every single person that ran on that is turning around and going,
no, no, no, no, no, but actually Donald Trump is not a part of the cover up.
It's not.
He's not.
Please, please don't say it.
Please don't say Donald Trump is part of the cover up.
Don't.
That's not the case.
It's so crazy.
It's so crazy
It's like you got everything you wanted you're getting proof more proof than ever before more proof than just whatever fucking
dumbass is made up on 4chan about
Dumbass is made up on 4chan about how like, you know, elites are actually ordering
Child sex slaves like they're ordering pizza by using code words that wasn't the case. It turns out they were just straight up saying it
There are pieces of the court dogmas that came out where Jeffrey F. Zinn is mad that
one of the people that was trafficking minors for him was actually trafficking people over
the age of 18.
He just straight up says, I need to see identification to make sure that this victim is under the
age of 18.
Like that's how, that's how flagrant it is.
That's how open it is.
There's no, there's no like cheese pizza, hot dog mentions or anything like that.
just straight up being like young child now. It's crazy. Why couldn't it be both? I mean,
the reason why it can't be both is because there's no evidence for one and there is a
tremendous amount of evidence for the other. Okay? So as I said, as I called
initially that the Trump administration was going to try and dangle red meat in
the in front of the base to try to get them to focus their attention on Bill
Clinton, who is a known co-conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein, they did. They redacted everybody
except for Bill Clinton, okay? They redacted Donald Trump from the files. They redacted
other financial elite from the files. And the only person that they seemingly did not
that was a politically relevant individual was Bill Clinton. Okay. Now, will this actually
succeed? Read my logs. Basketball, what? Basketball stream tomorrow. Read my logs. Okay. Take an
hour off chatter. I can't play basketball any longer. My ankle is fucked up. The other thing
that I also said was that they would all they would absolutely fail to do this because they
would somehow fuck it up and they did. And the way that they fucked this up now invites
even more scrutiny. It makes them look even more guilty, okay? So that's where we're at.
That is where we are currently at. The two different angles that are, the one angle that
the media is covering is the fact that Donald Trump and his DOJ very clearly, very clearly
eliminated mentions of Donald Trump, including going back in after they released this, deleting
this fucking photo from the Epstein, the dossiers.
Oversight Democrats called it out.
Yesterday, we found out that one of the few mentions of Donald Trump, one of the few
images of Donald Trump and the Epstein files was this photo.
Today the photo is gone.
Why would you do that?
You're so fucking stupid.
Why would you openly engage in this?
Why would you delete mentions of Donald Trump after the fact, dumbass?
You look even more guilty now.
It's out in the open.
That's so crazy.
Here it is.
This photo, file 468 from the Epstein files that includes Donald Trump has apparently
now been removed from the DOJ release.
Attorney General Pambani, is this true?
What else is being covered up?
We need transparency for the American public.
It's so crazy that they did this.
Like it's so crazy that they got called out.
And instead of just like letting it sit there and be like, no, what are you talking about?
See, of course we didn't redact Donald Trump.
They chose to delete it dude.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Always assume the admin.
This incompetent admin will find a way to fuck things up.
It's kind of them just saying like fuck you law, we don't care yeah except you can't entertain
that you can entertain that when you got you know Reagan numbers but you can't entertain
that when you don't have Reagan numbers when you have trump two numbers you can't be fucking
running around and being like huh what are you gonna do about it yeah we're not giving
our own base this information that they desire after running on delivering this information
into our own base, fuck you, there's no way.
They're gonna go crazy over it.
They're gonna lose their minds over it.
This is gonna piss off the normies,
as I've already told you, as I've already told you, okay?
And I need you to understand something.
This is Trump's least popular position
with his own base of support.
Republicans have never really deviated away
from Donald Trump on any of the issues,
Usually, it's 80% approval on virtually all of his policies, with the exception of this.
On the Epstein files and the mishandling, Republicans have a 54% disapproval rating on
Donald Trump's handling or mishandling of the Epstein files.
54%.
Now, you might be thinking to yourself, oh, it's just only a marginal majority of Republicans
that don't like this.
That's crazy.
need to understand. That needs to be compared with the 80% approval for everything else.
Donald Trump's been fucking up everything else, okay? And yet Republicans seemingly
are still on board with everything. They still show 80% approval, 80% approval, 80% approval.
No matter what. Even Asmongole took Trump's dick out of his mouth on this one. Yeah,
because he's fucking seeing the tea leaves, okay? That's the other thing. Just like
with Israel, Asmongol, who spent the last two years consistently complaining that I and
many others needed to be de-platformed because we were anti-semitic terrorists, has now turned
around and is like defending Pukinakua and saying like the primary responsible, the primary
party responsible for anti-semitism growing in America is Israel.
It's like, bitch, that's my take.
You called me a fucking anti-semitic terrorist for that for two years.
He went from demanding that every college campus protest or get deported or fired or
thrown in fucking prison or something to saying, well, you know, we really got to deal
with this Israel shit.
Yeah.
Asmongold is backtracking his support for Trump and Israel as their approval knows
dies.
Despite a year of daily praise, Asmongold now claims he never trusted Trump.
And he is saying, he says protecting Israel as America first despite prior calls for
protests to be jailed, protesting Israel as America first, despite prior calls for
protest to be jailed and deported. And I love that this guy says one year from now, actually
guys. Oh no, nevermind. I thought there was a defensive, uh, Azman gold. Um, there are
people that I've seen defending as we'll be like, will he change this mind? No, he
didn't. You fucking idiot. Last week, he was still saying, I'm the primary vector
of anti-Semitism growing on this platform. My opinions didn't change. His did. One
must ask the question why, as a matter of fact, even when a shit ton of people in my community
after October 7, we're like, fuck you. I don't want to hear from you. I can't believe you
wouldn't, uh, you wouldn't immediately say like these guys are, you know, barbaric, super
rapist monsters and have, uh, have no emancipatory need here whatsoever. And how dare you say
this is, uh, you know, Israel's responsibility after 75 years of apartheid and genocide
and ethnic cleansing, everyone that left this community realized perhaps I was
right and they might have been fucking wrong.
Asman Gold 100% spent the last two years going after every single person,
every single fucking person that called out Israel with maximum intensity.
He aligned himself with Ethan Klein.
He was one of the major advocates for deep platforming and I kept calling
it out. And I said, how is this free speech? How is this free speech? How is this free speech?
And now, now that Donald Trump is losing his motion, losing his momentum, he is slowly going
to back away. Okay. And I told you this already. I told you this from the start. His subreddit
was partnering with the ADL, partnering with the ADL to de-platform people like Morgan,
de-platform people like myself, de-platform other propacity and content creators.
And now he's over here talking about partnering up with Nick Fuentes, an actual anti-Semite.
Well, simultaneously taking a stronger stance against Israel.
So what changed?
Did Asimov gold's mind change?
No, of course not.
He's a fucking grifter.
And I promise you, even tomorrow, he will still turn around and say, Hassan is actually
anti-Semite and he needs to be banned while simultaneously going based on fucking Nick
Fuentes clips praising Adolf Hitler. None of this matters to him. None of this matters to
many in his audience either. They just want, they want to get Ws. They want to get a victory on
what they have perceived is a political opposition that's like ruining their lives, making
making the platformer of Twitch more woke, right?
Is it time for us to stop talking to Trump's dick?
I've been very critical of Trump regularly, if you-
I told you, I told you, I told you when the winds turn, he's gonna stop saying,
You're based.
Did I not?
You look at any of my commentary
discussing things that he's done.
You'll see that I'm extremely critical of him
even more so recently since the Epstein stuff.
So this is just, it's again,
just the typical Reddit one-dimensional thinking
because you couldn't vote for Kamala Harris.
If she was gonna do something, she would've.
So yeah, you didn't even vote.
Of course I didn't vote.
Why would I vote if I don't feel like the candidate
represents my viewpoints and my values to a degree that I feel confident voting for them and I think that I've been proven right
I have been I think I've been proven right with that and I voted for this
Yeah, I mean if I had known he was gonna do this I would have voted for him
I would have like a hundred percent. I didn't vote for Donald Trump
But if I did I would say that I voted for this. This is better than watching
I've been waiting for this to happen ever since BLM. This is what I voted for him
Well, I'll tell you guys how many of you guys that voted for Trump you're getting you're getting even it's even better than what you
Would hope for you know he wrote this yep
This is what I voted for yep to Iran support for the Houthi terrorists must end immediately beware because America will hold you
Fully accountable, and we won't be nice about it
Hell will rain down upon you like nothing you have ever seen before what I voted for Trump to do
was like what he did with the DEI stuff on day one.
What I voted for him to do is what he did
with like, for example, Iran, you didn't vote, exactly.
But I would have voted, if I would have voted,
that would have been what I voted for.
So Trump earned your vote by now.
If I could go back.
Yeah, this doesn't even do the amount of glazing
he did slash justice, yes.
This is not even a fucking fraction of the glazing.
I mean, every fucking day, yeah, based, yeah, based, yeah, based.
Every time, every time, every single fucking time, dude, he went nutty mode.
He was blowing bubbles on Trump's dick every fucking day.
Not only, not only did he blow bubbles on Trump's dick, I mean he openly stated it
too. Aside from the Epstein stuff, Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do. Maybe
there's too many crying Karens on social media, so they're afraid of the optics. But this
seems so dishonest. It won't work either. The bridge is burned and those people will
always hate them. Okay. I voted for none of this prominent influence, including the
Ovanja Rogan, Andrew Schultz are showing that this is themselves in the president.
He thought there was more farming to be done on October 6, 2025. So he was still
Standing but I promise you the point is gonna come the day is gonna fucking come where he's like oh, yeah, Trump
Is not great not great at all actually
Not based guys Trump was not based never liked them never liked them. Yeah
This is why I always say like it's unimaginably easy to fucking grift to the right.
They are so stoked to hear someone go, the president that we voted for is awesome, okay?
And because he doesn't have any sort of like ideological conviction beyond owning fucking
libtards or whatever, okay, beyond owning libtards and assuming that it's like liberalism that's
responsible for video games being destroyed somehow, okay, that he doesn't have a real
stake in this.
If tomorrow, if tomorrow his audience was like, that's a bridge too far for me, I'm done
with this Trump shit, why the fuck are you still glazing Trump?
He would magically overnight change his opinion and then make it seem like he actually had
a sincere change of heart.
That's a grift.
That is a grift.
Now, compare that to my advocacy over the course of the past 13 fucking years, public
advocacy on issues, not on candidates, not on politicians, but issues.
first. And these are the motherfuckers who try to act like I'm a grifter.
Dauda Asman always goes against the chat. He is at the mercy of his community.
And if you can't see it, he's at the mercy of the broader sentiment expressed by his community.
100%. He bans dissent in his chat. He rarely ever tackles people who have serious disagreements.
I fucking yell at right-wingers in here that come into this community. I yell at leftists that
come into this community with regular frequency that try to do the like holier than thou, woker
than now, shit. I'm pretty open about my positions and have been for a decade plus, okay? There
are tens of thousands of hours of advocacy that you can tap into to see where I'm at.
You're simply coping.
He's a grifter and a fascist piece of shit, but we should remember this man, my singlehandedly
bring back the bubonic plague, the plague of spread, okay.
That's it.
Realistically even if Trump released the files unless it condemned him and other elites,
Many people would say it was edited and fake. I watched his comments on Giselaan today. I
didn't get the impression he was considering a pardon. Why are people saying this again?
Wrong. They're saying this because he implied it. They're saying this because his own personal
defense attorney top Blanche, who was now the deputy attorney general went and floated
that idea. Okay. You just really can't stop thinking about him, huh? Rent free and
everything. Sad, very sad to see you come to this. Yeah. Asmongold has talked more
times about me on his broadcast every single fucking day demanded my de-platforming. I've
never even demanded Asmongold get de-platformed. Sucks to suck bitch. Numbers on the board.
Asmongold has a hundred to one ratio to my commentary on him versus his commentary on
me. You could say it's delusional. Facts are still facts. This is projection. It
makes you feel bad in the off chance that you see me covering Asmongold, especially
because he's doing a serious, serious attitude shift right now because he smells that there's
blood on the water and you can cope all day.
But if you look at Asmongold's YouTube channels, if you look at Asmongold's YouTube channel
versus my YouTube channel, what I choose to actually cut from my stream and post on my
YouTube channel for every two videos on Asmongold that I do as the largest political commentary
person on this platform now, bought it or not bought it, doesn't matter, versus how much
he talks about me.
There is a major disparity, okay.
Brogis learned word projection yesterday.
He's testing it out.
Yeah.
ad hominem incoming yeah you have no counterfactuals this is an ad hominem bro went on a whole fake
campaign against twiz just to try and hurt us on exactly exactly and now he knows the
ship is sinking and as I said as I fucking said over and over again when the ship is sinking
he's gonna pull out he's gonna pull out he's gonna be like yeah I like Trump for the anti-immigrant
stuff but this is real stuff this is real stuff is not for me okay and I said this
already. I said this already. I told you this. I told you this.
He went from defending Donald Trump trying to deport Mahmoud Khalil for participating
in anti-Israel protests on Columbia campus to now talking about how the number one spreader
of anti-Semitism is actually Israel. It took two years, but he's there now.
In time and vote for him, I absolutely would. I did not think that he was going to go this hard at all.
We have featured more than 1,000 anti-Semites on our platforms. 1,000
Feature them publicly, clearly, and with evidence.
I might be risen remembering, but I think you said you DM'd him on Twitter about how he's wrong about that.
I did.
I did.
He was spreading so much misinformation about the Mahmood Khalil case, specifically about what the Constitution protects and what the Constitution doesn't fucking protect.
I told him directly, I DM'd him directly, and I said, Asmongold, you are wrong.
The First Amendment does protect citizens and non-citizens alike. Okay? It's expansive
He really wasn't you are just delusional
Wait what as my dad was a son fan. He really wasn't you were just delusional
I don't know why you're bringing up
Asmond dad in this conversation, especially in a way that is like that makes you look delusional
Um, I have no, I have no issues with Asmongole's dad. I even reached out to Asmongole
at the time to offer my condolences. I don't want to talk about Asmongole's dad.
It's, uh, it's not relevant in this conversation at all, but I promise you
you're the one who is
saying weird random shit.
Not only are you fighting an internet battle for a person that doesn't know who you are,
but now you're also just like bringing up totally random things that do not favor you at all.
all. Yeah, we love as men dad in this community. Rest in peace. Anyway, we have featured more
than 1000 anti semites on our platforms 1000 feature them publicly clearly and with evidence.
The results speak for themselves. The evidence by the way is like a maliciously
edited clips and things like that. Everybody who's part of the America first agenda should
view being listed on this website as a qualification to run for office. If you get listed on this
website as being an enemy of the goals of Israel, then you're actually America first.
Like you can't say this about Palestine, you can't say this about Israel, and somebody
who's an activist for this is going to be criticized in this way. It's ridiculous.
They try to docks, mislabel, defame, slander, and misrepresent anybody who goes against
their interests, and then creating a chilling effect across the entire country to prevent
negative discourse about a country.
They...
Hmm.
Asmongol collab with ADL to try to get me and others deep platform for criticizing Israel
For the past two years, he supported every Trump initiative on this.
days or for every virtually every single day
Virtually every single day for the last two years
He is demanded that I get deplatformed others who are anti-israel get deplatformed consistently called him anti-semitic here
the most the most insane version of events the most insane version of events is
The the fucking sabra hummus gate
Okay?
SobrerhummusGate.
Asmongold did a fuck ton of videos, a fuck ton of videos talking about how anti-Semitic
all of the people that participated in the Sobrerhummus thing were and how they must
be de-platformed and his community ran with that like crazy.
All the while, they were calling Nick Fuentes based.
He also bragged about getting game devs fired for tweets he didn't like.
Exactly.
These guys are major fucking hypocrites.
His community was upvoting the fucking ADL, Hassan's anti-Semitism visualized.
The head of the ADL on CNN claiming Hassan's extremist rhetoric radicalized a DC shooter.
Last week, Asmongold, without any evidence whatsoever, connected an anti-Semitic hate
crime conducted by ISIS affiliates in Australia, back to me and my community.
That very same week, he talked about how base Nick Fuentes was for saying Adolf Hitler is
awesome.
Do you understand?
Do you understand how fucking insane that is?
The ADL is putting pressure on Twitch again.
It's time for Azmin's harvest again, number one farmer in Twitch, damn.
And that just after Assange's claim that his radical viewpoints don't cause any negative
PR for Twitch yet here we are again.
This is Dan Saltman and he's the one who's leading the charge against Twitch's double
standards in anti-Semitism culture, literally Dan versus Dan.
ADL can be ridiculous at times, but in this case he's 200% right.
Hamas Diddy-Piker is openly propagandizing Terry organizations of recruiting people to
become Terry's themselves.
He's no different than your garden variety extremist Imam, strapping bomb vests to
brainwash guys.
He's on your dick right now per usual.
If he's on my dick, he could at least talk to me, but he can't.
he is terrified that there are those in his audience who also don't fuck with
Israel now okay or never really fuck with Israel who who would call in the
question whether or not he is a sincere political actor he is capable of
presenting himself as this like honest guy by living in filth
every every one of his fans goes oh he obviously doesn't care about anything
He doesn't care about money.
He still lives in this like filthy home, right?
So clearly he's like honest,
not realizing that you can live in a situation like that
and that's marketing I guess to a certain degree
when your position, your world view is inconsistent.
You look to someone like myself and you go,
oh, this son is a socialist, but he dresses nice.
He showers daily.
He has a nice home to live in with his family.
Okay, and it's clean.
Obviously that's hypocritical.
Look to my output.
Listen to my words.
My positions on things do not change.
You're caught up in the aesthetics of it all.
And we have the power that you let them have.
And so if you have, if you see something like this happening,
you can just simply get enough people together
and then make it stop happening.
But APAC pays them so much.
You have to get a lot of people together.
Yeah, it's, by the way, that's going to happen.
It's going in that direction and they can't stop it.
People don't want their country run by a foreign power.
And I think that it's snowballing very, very.
Yeah, he's too scared to talk to me,
so he talks about me in an environment
where he can control the narrative,
in an environment where he can easily lie.
Because anyone that actually goes into his chat
and goes, hey, you're wrong about this actually,
Here's what Hassan actually said, instantly banned.
Whereas when Asmongold's fans come in here,
I actually enjoy having a conversation with them.
And I would totally have a conversation with Asmongold.
He's the one who's ducking me.
He's the one who unironically refuses
to have a conversation with me.
He's the one who's worried
about having a conversation with me.
He won't even watch the live stream
when I'm talking about him, when he knows.
Why would he ever talk to you
When you offend him every time you mention him,
do you think that if we had a conversation,
well, first of all, offend him every time you mention him,
what's more offensive?
Demanding that I get fucking deplatformed
because I'm a terrorist?
Or saying objectively that this person
who has presented himself as not showering daily,
doesn't shower daily.
What's more offensive, you think?
Because one is an opinion, a very negatively framed opinion that actually is inviting financial
harm and sometimes even actively saying that the government should take action or in moments
where the government has taken action against someone like myself for, you know, advocating
for positions that he apparently now holds as well, saying it doesn't go far enough.
That's not offensive.
That's not mean.
That's not fucked up.
Me saying, as Miguel doesn't shower, something that he personally has admitted to over and over again, that's offensive?
The soy right have no fucking consistency here. Both are not good. Brother!
Do you not see the fucking difference here?
I'm not negatively framing something. You think it's negative that he doesn't shower, okay?
And you're upset that I'm mentioning something that he has mentioned
That's a part of his brand I
Like how both of you are talking about each other right now like kids again very silly
We don't have to do this back and forth
He's the reason why this is a back-and-forth. We can talk to one another. I have always stated
Anytime any place that I am willing to have a conversation with as my gold and I will be respectful
He's the one who runs away from it
So if you have an issue with that go ask as man gold why he has an issue with it
Okay
Go ask Asmongold why he wants to talk about me, but not to me.
You play victim.
Again, I'm not doing that at all.
I'm the one who's saying I'm down to have a conversation with him directly.
I'm not playing victim.
I'm not a fucking victim at all.
I don't give a shit.
i don't give a shit
that has been gold is called me a fucking terrace over and over again
especially because now he's crawling back
to the
uh... israel is uh... is is
a dangerous entity
that has
unironically warped american politics so disastrously position
he's saying himself now
so what happened
The reason why he doesn't want to talk to me is because his viewpoints do not hold up because
they are fucking inconsistent.
That's the reason why he won't have this conversation.
That's the reason why he's always running away from these sorts of contentious conversations.
Very fast.
That Mahmood Khalil is removable under the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio's description
that his continued presence and his actions in the United States actually compromise
of foreign policy and political priorities.
That's very stunning because that is actually the only thing
that she ruled on today.
She did not rule on the other allegations
that were raised by DHS that he allegedly
misrepresented information on this green card application.
None of that matters.
It doesn't have to matter.
Like they can just deport them
for whatever reason they want.
That's what the rules say.
I said this at the beginning.
Everybody's getting mad at me for saying this,
but like it's a fucking fact.
Yeah, that's what the rules say.
that's fucked up though
no it's not
what i do is revoke visas
and it's very simple
of these studies a is not a right
it is a privilege
people apply for stuff like this
to come into the united states and so that's right get the fuck out bro get
them the
fuck out
this is what i voted for it's crazy that left wing people have gotten
flanked so bad
that this is now a position that they have to fight against
it out with me is also
What happened? Yeah, I did. I already added him. I said, the rats are escaping the sinking ship.
Asmongold commended the ADL when they were getting propulsive and CCCs.
The platform for criticizing is there for the past two years.
He supported Trump, deporting mom with Khalil. Now he's trying to pivot to an anti-Israel position.
Is there any solace knowing that the winds are changing in Roche infestment basements?
Yes, there is some solace there. I always, I will welcome everyone with open arms.
Okay. As long as they arrive at the right, the correct side on this issue, it's great.
My fear, of course, my fear, of course, isn't necessarily that they will arrive in the anti-Israel
position, but they will arrive at it by, you know, the Nick Fuentes perspective. They
will turn around and, you know, say like, you know, fuck the Jews rather than fuck
Israel, okay? That's my fear. My fear is that a lot of the anti-Zionist sentiment turns into
anti-Semitism rather than a, rather than a sincere criticism of Israel as a foreign entity.
Okay?
Mr. Orc did?
We're not going to give you a vote, but if you do that, Mr. Secretary-
Look how mad he is.
I think he hit his enraged face.
If you do that, Mr. Secretary.
You're not blowing smoke here.
The bottom line is, if you're going to stir up trouble on our campuses, we will deny
you a visa.
That's right.
If you have a first amendment of 5, you will revoke the United States.
We're going to do more.
It shouldn't.
If I could go back in time and vote for him, I absolutely would.
But I did not think that he was going to go this hard at all.
He states that talking to you would be a waste of time.
His community tries to cope by claiming he's little bro-ing you and not dodging you.
I know it's because it's parasocial, okay?
It's parasocial.
It's incredibly parasocial.
They want to save face.
Asmongold wants to save face.
And the people that openly say they love Asmongold also want to save face.
You both straw man each other and it's depressing.
Okay.
Then tell him, tell him to have a conversation with me so I can have a sincere debate to
have a normal conversation where I understand where he's coming from.
The problem is the problem is he's the only one who doesn't want to do that.
Anyway, Congressman Ro Khanna is here, so I'm done talking about fucking Asmongold, okay?
Obviously, there's a, you know, more serious subject matter to cover.
Anyway, that's a whiplash inducing statement, huh?
hold on. Hey, what's going on? Okay. Let me see. Hey, what's going on? What's on?
belt buckle and the fucking.
Okay.
There it is.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
That's good.
And then, and then here we go, okay, very quick, okay, no super niche office chair for
the guest man.
It's not super niche or nor an office chair that is super niche at all.
Here it is.
DOJ releases here.
I'll start this off.
Trump did not address Friday's law after months of delays the Justice
Department now beginning to release hundreds of thousands of documents from
its investigation to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. But this morning despite a new
law from Congress requiring DOJ to release all its Epstein files by
Friday that's not going to happen. What's being released now sources tell
us is less than half of the files. In this initial release never before
seeing records from the investigation. Thousands. Yeah. Welcome. And you're Congress person
Rokana to building everybody. Um, all right. So yeah, it's a SM seven B. I'm sure you've
done a lot of these before. So you got to speak directly into the microphone. I got
you. Welcome. Welcome. This is your use is your third time on the stream for the
first time in your studio. Yeah, the first time in like Christmas holiday spirit. I
You know that. I didn't know you had the Christmas spirit.
Yeah, I'm, you know, I waged, for many years,
I waged a war against Christmas as a Muslim American.
And, you know, I decided to give up on it.
I'm the most, I'm presenting myself as a lover of Christ.
Cause I feel like the environment has shifted quite a bit.
Christmas is a great holiday.
I love it.
Who doesn't like, you know, Santa Claus and Nutcracker
and the Christmas Carol or gift giving.
And gift, you know, it's a,
I mean, I grew up, I grew up in the faith, but I think it's one of the great times.
I think Americans have nailed it on how to do holidays, because like everything that
they do revolves around getting the family together, eating a lot of food, watching
something on TV.
You're American.
Well, that, yes.
I mean, I'm referred to it as a third person.
Cause like, uh, I mean, I did grow up in Turkey. Uh, my whole family's still in Turkey. So like,
I just don't want to give like quarter to Trump or something here. No, no, no, no. I mean,
I'm in America soon as I was born here. I'm an anchor baby. So
for now, for now, my, my citizenship is not called in the question, even though it's being,
it's, it gets called in the question all the time. Laura Loomer, uh, constantly hates me.
He hates me. Oh, she's going to lose her mind today. That's like two of us. Oh my gosh.
They're probably gonna say that Qatar is funding this. Yeah, every tweet starts out with Qatar is funding it
I mean, yeah, doesn't matter whether you're going after the generals in the military or whatever
That's like every time every time I'm like Qatar, please fund me. What are you doing? You know, I'm out here
I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the money. I'm just kidding. Oh, but
We
This is obviously a very
Important day as is every other day, but thank you for coming on today
today. We're going to be talking about the initiative that you and Thomas Massey were
championing in Congress. Our championing. We're not getting up.
And still our championing that, that had a very unique moment yesterday. Do you mind
talking about the, the, the act for those that might not know what it is? Also, do you
want anything to drink? I'm good. Okay. I'm going to grab a, I'm going to grab
a diet, Dr. Pepper, for myself real quick. But while you, while I'm right here,
Well, look, these are, uh, over 1200 women who as young girls were raped or abused.
There was a rape island that Epstein had set up and rich and powerful men,
pot, powerful politicians, powerful business folks would go to this island and
either they would rape these underage girls, uh, or they'd be standing by as
you would see paraded there a 15 year or 14 year old who would stick out as a sore thumb.
And everyone knew they were underage and they did nothing. They covered it up.
Or they trafficked in women who may have been 21-22, but they paid for it and abused them.
And what we want to know is who were these rich and powerful people? And how do they have
such a hold in our government that they prevented prosecution and investigation?
One of the files that came out yesterday showed that there was someone who complained to the FBI
in 1996, saying that Jeffrey Epstein had photos of 12 and 16 year olds being
nude and the FBI said nothing, did nothing. Why? Who are these people? So Thomas Massey and I
passed a bill and then I could go through how Herculean it was. We had to overcome Trump.
We had to overcome Johnson. We had to overcome skepticism in both of our parties. We had
to overcome the Epstein class, the billionaires who didn't want this coming out, but we persevered.
The New York Times editorial board that was like, Hey, let's not do this, actually. Yeah,
I mean, so many outlets and mainstream media, so many editorial boards in major legacy publishers,
we're just like, Hey, now, let's not release this stuff. Actually, they called me, they kept
all these journalists who kind of like my economic policy and they think of me as a serious
person said, I'm a conspiracy theorist because I was leading this. And they say, Oh,
has your friend, the vice president. He and you are both conspiracy theorists. I don't know what
happened to the vice president because he was the one who was out there saying we should release
these files. Suddenly he's gone quiet. Anyway, Massey and I, we overcame only establishment
opposition. We forced a vote. We got 70 Republicans to break with Donald Trump and say
they were going to vote for us. We flipped Donald Trump. He ended up endorsing our bill
and caving to the Congress. We got 100 senators. Schumer had to introduce my bill in the Senate
for unanimous consent a week after I called on him to step down from the Senate. So we
got the whole process working. President signs the bill and this means they've got to finally
release the files. And then we see yesterday they don't release 90% of what they're
supposed to release.
And what's interesting is, from what I understand, you were aware that this could potentially
happen, right?
So, there was language in the act that Donald Trump signed into law that specifically detailed
certain things that the Department of Justice could do, including if there were any sort
of significant redactions, they had to walk through exactly why they were redacting.
And from what we understand now, there were over 200 Department of Justice lawyers
that went through and and engaged in significant redactions. The BBC's estimation was that apparently
90% of the files were redacted somewhere along those lines and and the okay home. Kaya is hungry.
She is she's hungry for love but she'll get you she'll she'll get a lot of fur on you. So I'm
going to Kaya place. What type of dog? She's a mix but she's a mix of a bunch of different
she's a big, she's a big lady. But as I was saying, Donald Trump's former defense attorney,
now attorney, deputy attorney general, Todd Blanche actually released a memo as well to
Congress Republican Congress person from what I understand, saying that politically active
or politically involved persons were also redacted. Yeah. Similar to the 1200 plus victims.
I mean, look, they are redacting information to basically protect people who are in the government or in politics or in business. And if you look at the law, we explicitly say you can't redact things to protect people's reputation or if it's going to cause embarrassment.
They're doing exactly the opposite of what the law says.
what the law says. And then, you know, the two documents we wanted out, one was in a 60
count indictment of Jeffrey Epstein, because the 60 count indictment never saw the light
of day. And it was ultimately two counts he was charged on, but there were 60 counts.
Now, why do we want that document? Because that document will talk about how he made
all his illegal money. How did this guy make $500 million? Who was paying him?
Who were the other men involved with him? They didn't release that. They didn't release
the prosecution memo, justifying that indictment, the draft indictment, all of those draft indictments
and prosecution memo got buried. And in our law, which you got up there, we say specifically
all internal DOJ communications, including memos, notes, decisions to charge or not
to charge, investigator, decline investigator. Specifically, that language was for getting
these two documents and they're basically disobeying the law. And by the way, this
This isn't even, what's so scary to me is it's not just concealing Trump's name, I expected,
that they would try to eliminate the Trump name.
They're protecting something else here.
They're protecting rich and powerful interests going well beyond Donald Trump.
That's what has me the most concerned.
What is it that they're trying to protect and why are they trying to protect it?
So, there's obviously the thing that a lot of people are hyper-invested in here, which
is of course the worst crime, the international sex trafficking of minors that took place.
But then beyond that, there's obviously a lot of paper trail and a lot of financial
crimes that took place as well and a lot of very connected, very wealthy individuals
that were Jeffrey Epstein associates.
We simply want to figure out like what level of involvement did they have?
Not every single person, I suspect that was pictured around Jeffrey Epstein,
was engaging in the worst of all crimes.
That's not my assessment of this at all, but I do fear that just as you said,
that is precisely what they're trying to protect here.
That's precisely what they're trying to hide.
Now, I have a bunch of questions. Why do you think that they actually sheltered the public
from the initial plea bargain deal, for example, like the other details that came out about
how the first time Jeffrey Epstein was arrested and prosecuted, there was this trial that
took place, and Trump's former Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta was a prosecutor on the
case who offered him a sweetheart plea bargain that no pedophile has ever gotten since or ever will
where he was allowed to be released on work release while he was in prison. That's insane.
He abused people while he was released and that's how horrific this was.
So that was one of the major things that I was invested in that I wanted to find out about.
Well, why do you think they,
why do you think they're openly hiding this,
this side of the Jeffrey Epstein profile?
But because I know there was a huge amount of wrongdoing.
That's one of the reasons we wanted
that initial indictment draft
because there were supposed to be 60 counts.
And all those 60 counts would be exposed.
Acosta prosecuted two counts.
He got rid of all the 58.
Then he does the plea bargain deal.
We wanted to see the memos.
What went into the decision
to say that that was reasonable.
And I'm sure they're dissenting opinions
of people who said, absolutely not.
We wanted to see that email correspondence,
that those memos, they're hiding this
because they know that they're rich
and powerful people who intervene.
And they know that justice was not done,
and not just because of Epstein,
not just because of the Maxine gas,
Maxine gas, uh, uh, you think I know, but I know you'll, I'm Maxwell. I always get the
name, uh, uh, messed up. You ain't Maxwell, but it was done because, uh, of Richard powerful
men. Yeah. Um, absolutely. So there's the financial elite that's obviously very connected
to Jeffrey Epstein in ways that we already know in broad daylight, constantly in and
out of like these meetings, constantly photograph with them, some of which the House oversight
committees actually release like the Democratic oversight committee is released as well,
partially from, I believe, the Epstein, what is it called it? Not the manner, but like the
data dumps that came, the photographic dumps that came are not just from the investigation,
right? Like the estate, the Epstein estate.
There are two different things.
Yeah. So there's, can you describe that?
There's the law that requires the justice department to release them.
And then there's the letter that I'd sent to the estate.
Then we got to release that information.
And Comer, who's the Republican chair, subpoenaed him because of Summer Lee's work and Robert García's work.
And they are releasing information.
So there are two places we're getting this information from.
Yeah. And so a lot of the photos that were coming out from the oversight committee were coming from the estate from, if I recall correctly, and yet some of those files that would definitely be in the investigation in the Jeffrey Epstein files, right, from the court proceedings are redacted.
Now, the reason why I'm bringing this up is because this invited a lot of scrutiny,
a lot of suspicion that the Department of Justice had actively redacted Donald Trump
and many other high-profile players in American politics from the initial file release.
One of the things that they ended up doing, and I suspected that initially they would,
I suspected that initially they would most likely just offer a little bit of red meat
to the base and say like, oh, look, see Bill Clinton.
Right.
And they did do that.
And I also suspected that they would be so incompetent as they have been over and over
again that they would still somehow find a way to fuck it up, which they did, right?
And the oversight Dems actually called this out.
Yesterday, we found out alongside the rest of the internet when the files were
being released. There was one photo that actually made it through the sensors. And one photo of
Trump that made it through the sensors. But it was a photo that was in a drawer. So I guess,
like, whatever, yeah, they did not notice that, you know, Donald Trump was was in some of the
files. And what the Department of Justice, from what we understand now did was when they realized
that Donald Trump was in this photo, they just deleted it. It's the cover up is always worse
than the crime. Someone was probably thought, oh, I'm not going to get in trouble with Trump or the
Trump White House. And it's absurd. I mean, that they're, look, this is the, this is the issue
that is unraveling in part as presidency. This is the only issue with the magabases, but
is brazenly defying him. Why? Because he said that he was going to expose these people. He said
that he was going to expose these corrupt people who get one set of justice, who raped young girls,
and he's going to bring justice. He's not a perfect person. No one thinks that Donald Trump has led
a perfect life, but they thought he was actually going to expose these folks and return government
to people. And he's betrayed that promise. And that's why you've got, you look at my X feed.
I encourage folks to just go and look at the X feed. I've got more MAGA supporters standing up
for me than I ever have in my entire political career. Yeah, they're they're staking my side
over Pam Bombi side. They're going after the DOJ saying you're killing Donald Trump's presidency.
And so this issue, everyone says we got to take the fight to Trump to get to take the fight to
Trump. They all do memes against it. Call them a fascist call them a dictator. No one has
actually been able to break the MAGA coalition. The reason Nancy and I have actually
been able to break the magnet coalition is because we're actually saying we're on the people side
instead of the system side that the system is rotten. That's what you got to do as a first
principle for the democratic party. The system is rotten, too much big money, too much influence of
wealthy people, too many people who are getting away with things and that we're going to be on
the side of the people against this rotten system. And that was what Trump was saying,
but he hasn't delivered. Yeah, no, absolutely. And I think this is from my analysis, it almost
feels like this is one of the purest expressions of like class politics that Americans can get on
board with. It's not dialectics, it's not materialist at all, but it is like something that they
have seen or something that they've suspected. There's obviously a lot of conspiracy around
this sort of stuff. Like this was the whole motivating principle around QAnon, right? Or
Pizzagate or numerous other conspiracies that were not true at all. But now what I am seeing
is that there is definitely, there are some people who see that this is valid as opposed
to the previous formations of these sorts of conspiracy theories.
This is, there is evidence on this, unlike people who claim that these super wealthy
people were communicating with one another and like using code words for child pornography
or ordering children off of Wayfair or whatever. They were pretty brazen. They were pretty open
about like, Jeffrey Epstein, there's stuff that came out from the files that Jeffrey Epstein
was mad at someone that was redacted that was procuring children for him. And they were
over the age of 18. And he was like demanding to see their licenses to make sure that
they were under the age of 18. They weren't, yeah, they were not using coded language
at all. They were pretty flagrant. They were pretty blatant. They controlled the law enforcement.
They thought if the FBI is not even investigating it, what do they have to worry about? Exactly.
I mean, they're documents saying, I have a woman for you. I have a girl for you. Right?
I mean, it's just sickening stuff. And 1200 victims for anyone who says, Oh, there's
not other rich and powerful people were involved. I said, one person is not abusing
1200 people. Just a math doesn't work up. There are other people were on that
rape island, we either watch young girls be paraded around or rape them. And, you know,
the reason this is, I think, resonant is people feel an anger that they've lost their
economic voice. They don't control their own political voice. There's something that's
wrong with the system. And this is like the symbol of what's wrong.
Yeah, no, absolutely. It's a perfect demonstration of like how the super wealthy get away
with doing heinous crimes, while simultaneously controlling the levers of power, right?
And I think that's the reason why a lot of people, this is a bipartisan thing, and not
bipartisan in the sense that politicians are on board with it, but this is a bipartisan
issue in the eyes of the public.
And as you also suggested, as you also correctly pointed out, I believe it's Donald Trump's
least popular issue with his base, 54% disapproval, as opposed to everything else
where the MAGA base basically is 80% approval rating on anything that Donald Trump is doing
with the exception of this, where there's a 54% disapproval. So it's pretty significant.
And one of the angles that I wanted to cover here, however, that I feel like the media
is noticeably absent on or like omitting is the potential connection with not just
the super wealthy, but like intelligence, right? I know you're, I'm sure you've seen
the drop side reporting on this stuff because there was a, there was a Jeffrey Epstein's
J.E. Vacation email address was leaked, was hacked and his entire correspondence with
world leaders and everyone else was leaked for all to see. And there has been very
little coverage on this from, you know, the legacy publishers, unfortunately, and the only
time I ever hear about this connection between Jeffrey Epstein and potentially Israeli intelligence,
even though he is very clearly connected to Ehud Barak, and we knew about this even
before the emails as well, and numerous other, you know, high-profile world leaders.
The only time legacy media covers this is to say it's an anti-semitic conspiracy.
It's to say, oh, this suggestion is so ridiculous.
And I believe Thomas Massey also brought this up yesterday where he said, a big part of
the reason why there is this major cover up is because it is very likely that Jeffrey
Epstein was connected in some way, shape, or form to our intelligence and also to
Israeli intelligence as well.
Do you have any opinions on that?
Well, my opinion is that that's why we need the release of the files.
That's why this was drafted in a way that would get the FBI files, that would get the
national security files.
That's why the lawyers of the survivors say you need all the files, the financial files,
the national security files, the FBI files, and anything that isn't a current national
security issue.
So we even drafted it saying you can't over-classify information.
If there's not a significant clear national security threat, then it has to be declassified.
So this will put to rest the issue is if we could have transparency, if the American
people can see the files, and if they can't see the files, then conspiracies will continue
to grow, whether true or not.
And so I guess even the legacy media should be just calling for the release of the
files.
Yeah.
And there is this somewhat elitist attitude, I feel like, that at least I've seen.
I have tremendous respect for many journalists that I know and love that work at these
outlets that want to do very good work and oftentimes do very good work. But overall,
I feel like the editorial teams and the way that they respond to this kind of stuff is
to simply say, oh, the public doesn't know how to handle this information. And I think that's
a dangerous line of thinking in general, the idea that people are too stupid to understand
what's going on, but I do think that that invites additional scrutiny, and that actually invites a
lot of conspiracy theories, many of which can go down a dangerous path and actually do become
anti-Semitic conspiracy theories if the truth is not assessed by credible actors
and investigative reporters. So I always appreciate what Dropsite is doing in terms of
of doing that investigation, that investigative reporting
in that work, that there are connections
between Jeffrey Epstein and obviously at Hood Barak,
there's connections between Jeffrey Epstein
and people that were possibly involved in Iran Contra
that just recently came out.
And I guess one of the questions I have for you is
there was another statement that Thomas Massime made
that he said, 20 to 25 people
If they are not outed as being co-conspirators or, you know, as being engaged with Jeffrey Ebsen in some way, shape or form, by the time Friday comes around, that means that there will have been heavy redaction in direct violation of the act that was passed.
Correct.
Have you guys actually seen the unredacted files?
We have not. We've requested to see them. In fact, one of the things that Thomas and I were discussing today is putting together a committee of Congress, me, him, maybe someone from the judiciary committee to go and look at these files, even if it's in a classified setting to be able to say what complies and what doesn't comply, because right now they have shown no good faith in complying.
And the reality is we know that the survivors lawyers have seen the files and they have told us and the survivors have told us that there are other powerful men who either
Abused or raped these girls or showed up on the rape island while these girls are being abused. I mean one. It's not hard to visualize. Think of a party. You got a lot of models.
models some of them in their 20s and then you've got like this young girl walking around nude who's
14 or 15 and all these rich powerful men there. Now my view is every person man there is guilty
if they didn't say something in terms of abetting abuse and so it's not just men who actually
abused or raped these girls it's also people who are showing up to these sick parties
knowing that young girls were being paraded around and that's the type of information
that we're going to get if we get that 60 count indictment and we get the 82 page memo that the
prosecution's wrote and if we get the FD forms, the FBI forms of interviews of all of the men
who were interviewed by the FBI to understand what happened. I mean, how do you have a situation
of a release where no one else, his names are in there being investigated? Obviously,
they're 1200 victims. Even if the FBI concluded that some of these people were innocent or
or not guilty, they would have interviewed them.
They would have been witnesses.
They would have been questions.
Where is all that stuff?
No, absolutely.
I guess redacted or they haven't even released
many of the files yet, right?
Like there's still so much that they are very clearly
going through to hit the heavy handed redaction
that they did to the first tranche of data
that they were forced to release,
even though that was also in violation
of the act that was passed.
So my question, and I'm sure everyone else's question here is,
what are the next steps here?
Well, there are a few steps.
First of all, obviously impeachment is on the table
for Pam Bondi.
There is criminal prosecution that she could face
or others that the justice firm may could face.
And by the way, that criminal prosecution risk
runs well beyond this administration.
The next administration, in my view,
it can't just be kumbaya.
There needs to be accountability for crimes committed,
accountability for crimes committed with ICE,
accountability for crimes committed in the Caribbean
where innocent boatmen are being killed,
and accountability for crimes committed
in not complying with Massey
and my Epstein Transparency Act.
Accountability is gonna be needed.
But Massey and I are also in the process
of drafting a bill for the inherent contempt
of Congress.
What does that mean?
Pam Bondy could be fined every day
if she's not agreeing to release these documents
and we're gonna propose a group of people in Congress,
bipartisan group that gets to review these documents so that we can assess what is a legitimate
redaction and what is not and actually have her comply with the law because my goal is
not retribution. It's not to score a point against the president's cabinet. My goal is
justice for these survivors and actually figuring out how we get these documents out. One
point, you know, I think this first run may have been a test, then just seeing,
Okay, what can we get away with?
And the outcry that's come out,
hopefully this pushes them to realize that
they're not done with this, just the Christmas,
before Christmas release isn't working,
that there's gonna be more demand
for these documents to actually come out.
Yeah, so that's one angle for sure.
And I think that there is a lot of appetite
across the board, across the political spectrum
for some kind of transparency in all of this,
in all of this clearly, if that wasn't the case, then Donald Trump wouldn't have signed
this act in law to begin with, right? And they have mishandled this process, absolutely.
I guess, what are the next steps, not to throw curveballs here, but what are the
next steps is like Donald Trump offers a blanket pardon across the board to everyone
that's uh that's mishandling this uh or deliberately redacting things uh in violation of the law.
Well he could do that and it would make it harder for them to be uh prosecuted in the future uh but
you know I mean if you really want to be a career justice department official or even a pointee
having uh as the capstone uh on your career being pardoned by Donald Trump for uh protecting
pedophiles I mean that's really uh what people will be choosing and then it'll be the next
administration that releases all of this. But we are not giving up because the reason I believe it's
possible to shift the administration is we shifted Trump from calling it a hoax to signing the bill.
Because the one thing you can read is public opinion. Yeah. And he saw that this was going
to be a huge story. It was hurting his presidency. In fact, he kept saying I don't want to,
I don't know why we keep talking about Epstein. I want to talk about all my achievements. He
knew it was the Achilles heel, the kryptonite of his administration. And so now he's going to realize
that this was another whiff by Pam Bondi. Susan Wilde said she keeps whiffing. I don't know, she's so
out of touch. She was supposed to meet the survivors. And then she said, oh, I've got an
appointment. I can't meet the survivors. There was one thing that I also wanted to bring up
with Pam Bondi's inconsistency in the way that she's actually talked about this,
because obviously initially when they when they got together and did this like fake release of
the f-steam files with all of the MAGA influencers and that was a major W like they thought that
this would satiate people's appetite for the truth and very clearly it was all the stuff
that we had access to already and and I think they thought that the people would just not
demand more where they were like, oh yeah, we're tuned in. We saw this, you know, Libs of Tiktok was
celebrating that they got this, this tronche of data. But in the process, there were certain things
that Pam Bonny had said that we now know are absolutely untrue. The notion, for example, that
a lot of the CSAM that was in the Epstein files was commercially bought CSAM. We now know that
There is, you know, we now know that that's probably not true, right? Because there is a lot of
not just redacted, but like CSAM slips that are all over the Epstein files that were released.
Obviously, they're not going to digitize copies of child sexual abuse material,
but like it's very clear that that was a hard copy that wasn't actually like digitally
acquired or anything like that. There's instances where Jeffrey Epstein personally is
is actually like procuring or creating CSAM as well
with 14 year old victims.
And the notion that this was just Jeffrey Epstein's doing,
that he was just simply procuring all of the stuff
for himself is very clearly untrue.
So that inconsistency, does that reach
the boundaries of perjury?
I mean, is there, or does that only happen if Pam Bondi is in front of a Congress?
I guess the biggest thing is she's obstructed justice.
Yeah.
She can be impeached because she didn't comply with the law.
I mean, that's the obstruction of justice and that's grounds for impeachment is
grounds for criminal prosecution. She also lied, right?
I mean, she stood up in front of the country and said, there's nothing more
to see. We've released everything about their own admission.
They're releasing hundreds of thousands of more documents.
What changed?
Yeah.
how did they suddenly find all these documents? By the way, there are 300 gigabytes of files
on the Epstein files. How do I know this? Because Cash Patel in front of Congress said
they're 300 gigabytes and they've released yesterday 2.5 gigabytes. So you can do the math. I mean,
they've got hundreds of thousands more documents. And what are these documents?
All the interviews. They're 1,200 witness, 1,200 survivors. All the interviews that they
were conducted. All the other men who were on the island. All the other men who participated
in this. I mean, this is, we don't want just random documents. We don't want just random
files. We don't want just random photos. We want to know who was on that island,
who knew about these young girls being raped, who engaged in either rape or abuse or sex on
that island. I mean, all that information is in those FBI witness interview FD files.
Yeah, also what level of involvement did Steve Bannon have, for example, another Trump affiliate
that we know was deeply connected to Jeffrey Epstein, and there's a lot of inconsistency in
the way that he's also presented himself here. At first, after Julie K. Brown's investigative
reporting at the Miami Herald, when the second Epstein trial was starting, Bannon actually
went to Jeffrey Epstein and conducted these interviews in the form of deposition training
and to do PR. And then when the attitude shifted against Jeffrey Epstein even more than it had,
he very quickly turned around and said, oh, I'm just shooting a documentary, right?
But there are so many photos of Steve Benin being chummy with Jeffrey Epstein.
And why is none of that in the investigation?
Why was that redacted?
I mean, this is not even Donald Trump at that point.
This is a totally, supposedly unaffiliated person.
So why is the Department of Justice not only sheltering Donald Trump, but sheltering Trump
allies who are political operatives themselves?
I mean, that's not a matter of national security, right?
No, they're sheltering rich and powerful people, just like they're sheltering the survivors.
I mean, the whole point of the Epstein Act was that we want to know who these rich and
powerful people were, that they weren't charged.
Usually the Justice Department doesn't release things that people weren't charged because
they figure, well, your reputation shouldn't be destroyed if you weren't charged.
But in this case, we know that the process was corrupt.
We know that the law enforcement couldn't be trusted.
We know that they didn't follow the FBI chips,
that we know that they didn't prosecute.
So in this case, the American public is saying,
we do want everything out there
because the justice system let these women down.
Yeah, justice delayed is justice denied.
And the justice has been delayed.
And the further that like the Department of Justice
tries to engage in this cover up,
they're only expanding on the injustice
that they participated in early on.
So what do you, this is actually a good question. What would you think is like a solid example of a legitimate national security hypothetical for you?
What would be a real example of like a national security concern that they engage in some sort of redaction on?
on? Oh, look, if there was actually some conversation where it would expose someone who is a spy or
an CIA agent and expose who they are and their identity or expose their family, you don't want to
put people at risk. They are in those roles. If they're if Epstein happened to know something
because he knew a lot of powerful people about our national secrets in terms of our sensitive
weapons or sensitive information. You wouldn't want that out there. So I can see there being,
or if there were some comments made about a foreign leader that you don't want the American
president to be exposed in that way or another country thinking something. So there are cases,
and we can debate what those cases are. People often say, why did you not write the bill
in a way that said everything has to come out and not even have an exception
for classified information. And anyone who's been in Congress more than a day will tell you there's
no chance anything like that would pass. There are too many people in Congress who would just
find that as the excuse. Donna and Massey want to get rid of classified information. So we had
the narrowest possible classified graph thing to be able to get that bill through.
Okay. So that further record, that in and of itself though, I think does lend even
further credence to the suspicion that there was like some kind of involvement with the
intelligence communities which is one of the prevailing narratives that is often left unaddressed
like I said with the exception of of mainstream outlets just simply calling this a conspiracy
theory. But obviously it goes beyond that as well there are people who are not you know
CIA affiliated that are being sheltered here very clearly. There's also Donald Trump being
sheltered here with the redactions as we have seen from the actions that the Department of Justice
took after people realized that they failed to redact some of the Donald Trump photos. And this
is like, I mean, this is so silly, right? But as far as the potential involvement of Israel,
Are you are you familiar with the drop side reporting on this stuff? I am and drop side. I am I'm
So you're familiar with the back and forth correspondence that has taken place. I mean even with these files. There was a one photo with David Blaine
Doing hold on. Let me see if I can pull it up real quick. David Blaine doing magic tricks
in a room
with Jeffrey Epstein and also former prime minister of israel ahud brock former prime minister of israel ahud brock had also
Um, is it David Copperfield? I thought it was David Blaine. Anyway, here it is. Uh, magic tricks, performing magic tricks for, for, uh, Jeffrey Epstein.
Is this David Copperfield? Am I wrong? I don't know. One of the magic guys, uh, performing magic tricks for Epstein and a few notable names, including Israeli Prime Minister at the time, Mahoud Barak.
And the question I have, no, that is David Blaine.
Okay, you guys are, Copperfield also did it as well.
I don't know why everyone is so worried
about who the magician is here.
I'm not implying that the magician
is the important figure in this, okay?
Anyway, even though both were involved in different ways,
doesn't matter.
So it's things like this.
It's things like this that people understandably want answers for.
Do you feel like omitting this kind of stuff or refusing to talk about this kind of stuff is
adding on to the scrutiny that people have for mainstream media nowadays?
Yeah, I think it all should come out.
And we've drafted, that's why the classified exception we drafted was
the narrowest possible way that you have to justify it.
It can't be excessively used.
It can't be used to cover up what actually took place.
We drafted it with the narrowest way in a way that could still pass the Congress,
because the reality is, if the bill doesn't pass the Congress, there's no use to it.
But that is why what we're saying is that there needs to be people like
Nancy and me who get to see these documents,
and then we can have a yes or no vote on,
is it truly something redacted because it's going to protect
the survivors or families or protect certain classified information,
should this be out there? My view is if you don't have this out there, that's how you, as you pointed out,
have conspiracy theories take hold. I mean, if there's nothing to hide, put it out there. Let people,
let people make that determination. By the way, the biggest thing that could be out there
is the indictment, the 60 page indictment. So people know, okay, was there foreign involvement?
I mean, that indictment will say that right there. If there was no, if there was no evidence
in that indictment of foreign interest, that would be a big tell that, okay, maybe there
wasn't there if the indictment says look here are the here are the 60 counts and here are the
things that were happening from overseas that would be a big issue that's why we explicitly
wait this is the indictment for the second investigation of the first one this is the
60 page indictment 60 count indictment that the assistant US attorney in Florida put together
in 2007 oh yeah that that that Acosta ignore and then charges just two counts those are
60 counts. You don't have 60 counts just of pedophilia. You have 60 counts of money laundering
and transactions. We want to see all of that. And that, that will get to the questions that you've
been asking. So that the other side of the story also is, is Alexander Acosta is out there, you
know, like he is out there. Is there any demand to maybe pull him in front of Congress? Is that
that's something that you guys can entertain. Cause like he was the labor secretary at the
time, he came before the oversight committee, but I, he's just not, you know, I, I don't
think we can believe, I might not because there is the, the, the famous, uh, second hand,
uh, uh, the, the, uh, there was some reporting in the media at the time that, uh, when he
was a labor secretary and he resigned, um, because of the, the Epstein stuff, uh,
There was this question where he was like, Oh, well, at the time, someone made someone
led me to believe that he was actually intelligent, someone from higher up, because there was
also a subsequent federal investigation that was taking place.
And there were a lot of co-conspirators that actually were sheltered from the law in,
in what seemingly was even beyond the sweetheart plea bargain that we've seen.
Like there's no, there's no instance where there's this virtual RICO case almost
where you find so many people who are criminally liable potentially for financial crimes and
potentially for sex crimes as well, trafficking of minors, where all of the other people that
were engaging in these acts are not only given blanket protection, blanket immunity, but
we don't even know who they are as unindicted co-conspirators at all. It's unimaginable,
it's unheard of.
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I'm seeing some of the questions. It's a great thing. Again, instantaneous feedback.
Why is there no enforcement mechanism? There is. The enforcement mechanism is the obstruction of justice.
You don't have to put in. This is one of the big misconceptions out there.
Anyone who doesn't violate, who violates a congressional law by definition is obstructing justice where the Congress has asked it for justice purposes
and can be faced a decade in prison for that.
for that. So the question is not, is there an enforcement mechanism? It's, are we going to
actually have it enforced? And if it's not going to be enforced by this administration,
it needs to be enforced by the next one. The second point is that a costa should be prosecuted
if he's, if there's clear evidence of perjury. I mean, that, that, you know, you can't come
in and lie, lie to Congress. Well, now he has, now he's a cushy job at Newsmax because I've
been following his career. It's very interesting going from, you know, Florida prosecutor
upstart to like labor secretary under Donald Trump, to then resigning in disgrace or at
least like trying to quietly exit the Trump administration when the Epstein stuff was coming
back to the forefront, only to now sit on the board, I believe, of Newsmax.
That's what it's doing now.
And look, there's got to be an accountability of what did he know, but the reason it's
so hard to prosecute all these individuals and hold them accountable is we don't have
the files.
So, you know, there's got to be the evidence of what came out.
And then we can say, okay, now we know that someone was lying or not lying.
Um, absolutely.
So there is also, I mean, there's also the question of, um, cash Patel didn't Patel
say that there were no other individuals that could be charged in front of Congress.
Um, there is also, how does he know that?
I mean, the survivors don't believe that, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the
they think that all 1200 survivors were raped and abused by Epstein.
Of course not.
There were other people involved.
themselves, according to Thomas Massey, who has spoken to the lawyers of many of the survivors,
say that there is at least 20 to 25 people that were, that are supposed to be in the first
tranche of data that came out, that was supposed to come out yesterday, were supposed to be outed.
That was the whole point, at least, and not a single person. We don't have any single
information, but someone who was engaged in the abuse, recovered up of the abuse beyond
Maxwell and Epstein. And that's why this thing is a farce. And that's why Massey and I are
upping the anti saying we will use all our powers, whether it's inherent contempt, whether
it is impeachment, whether it's referral for prosecution. The reality is that Massey
and I have been effective on this issue in because we have cracked the MAGA coalition
because it's bipartisan because we're taking on a corrupt system.
By the way, this is a corrupt system that has led to billionaires accumulating value.
We need to have a billionaire tax in this country, a wealth tax.
It's led to overseas wars.
We shouldn't be bombing people, innocent people on boats in the Caribbean.
It led this kind of corrupt system to the Iraq war, which was wrong.
It led to us in 20 years in Afghanistan.
It led to the overthrow of Libya,
which was a total foreign policy blunder.
It led to a supporting of Netanyahu and the genocide
which the Israeli government committed in Gaza
and a blank check.
And I was one of the few politicians who stood up
and said no to the 14 billion
and who has gotten on the Dalia Ramirez's bill
to say block military sales to Netanyahu's government
and who's gotten on Rashida Tlaib's resolution
to say that what the Israeli government did was a genocide.
But the point of all of this is,
if we are not gonna have politicians willing
to tell the truth when it comes to things like Epstein,
how do you expect them to tell the truth
about issues of foreign policy?
How do you expect them to tell the truth
about issues of economic policy?
The currency of modern politics
should be courage and truth telling,
not just charisma and memes.
Is are you going to stand for principle in this country?
Yeah, it's the media landscape and the people's attitude has changed quite dramatically since
the first time we had a conversation at the DNC, if you recall, you were one of the, you
were one of the Congress persons leading the charge against Israel.
And even then there was a lot of restraint for, you know, saying certain things about
Israel back then that many Democrats didn't even broach, obviously.
And I think that that played a role in the, the Democrats losing to,
It's kind of a thing. The data shows that.
So that's actually something I wanted to ask you about. This is not to the same degree
of severity as the Epstein Redactions, but Ken Martin recently said that they would not
release the autopsy or the assessment that came out about how the Kamala Harris campaign,
how the Democrats lost to Donald Trump. How do you feel about that?
Well, they should obviously release it. I mean, it's just kind of arrogance to
and not release it, but I'm not crying to river
because that autopsy was done by consultants.
I'm not sure that I need to listen to DC consultants
about what we did wrong.
I'd rather be out there in the community.
That said, it just kind of speaks to the sense
of lack of accountability.
Like we need to understand that the American people
are upset at the entire system.
They're upset at both parties.
They want a new generation of leadership.
They are sick of speeches that go like this.
I want to renew the American dream.
I want us all to have an equal opportunity.
I want us all to have a great life.
And you said nothing.
How about specifics?
Do you stand for Medicare for all?
Do you stand for taxing billionaires and a wealth tax?
Do you stand for cutting the bloated defense budget?
Do you stand for not giving Netanyahu
a blank check on military sales?
Are you willing to say what happened was a genocide?
Are you willing to stop Wall Street
from buying up single-family homes?
Are you willing to hold people accountable
who've committed crimes with violating
the Epstein Transparency Act.
Are you gonna speak truth to power?
And if you're just gonna give platitudes,
it doesn't matter how many consultants you get.
They say, how many, oh, we used to need
to use the word affordability.
We need to use the word higher prices.
That's not what lower prices, that's how it wins.
Thank you.
So this is actually something
that I've been very critical about as well.
I think a lot of people on the Democratic Party side
as well are either deliberately obfuscating,
Zoran Mamdani's victory in New York against all odds against the Democratic establishment as well as the media
who were very critical of him or
The the people on the Democratic Party side who said oh, this is just affordability as a buzzword, right and
my my frustration now is
It's not just saying affordability is a problem
You also have to have tangible policy prescriptions and you have to really hammer on those tangible policy prescriptions.
And that's precisely what Zoram Amdani did in New York.
That's right.
That played a formative role in his victory, like a campaign that is anchored around policies.
You mentioned a couple of them. Medicare for all is a fantastic one. Obviously, taxing billionaires or wealth tax is another great one.
I'm totally on board with those issues.
Do you feel like the Democrats in the absence of unifying around these key issues who keep
leaning on to the likes of the welcome pack or other consultant backed movements that
are trying to dilute the message a little bit and to simply say, no, no, no, you don't
understand.
The people actually want marginal improvements.
And here is the polling that suggests that this marginal improvement is actually
much more successful. Do you feel as though that is playing a role in why the Democratic
Party as a whole is still incredibly unpopular in the face of Trump's incompetence?
Yes, look, this is going to be a fight. We're not going to have Kumbaya Unity Democratic
Party, the lowest common denominator. I mean, you can't say I'm for affordability and
then go to the billionaires and say, give me some money and I'm not going to raise your
taxes.
I mean, you have to stand for things.
And when you stand for things, you're going to upset people.
You're going to upset people if they have to pay higher taxes, if they're billionaires.
They may still support you, but you got to be honest with them like FDR was.
You're going to upset private insurance companies if you're for Medicare for all.
You're going to upset the defense industrial base if you're saying we're going to
cut the defense budget.
You're going to upset pharmaceuticals if you're going to say that Americans shouldn't
be a higher price than other countries. And if not, we'll take away your patents. You have
to be willing to challenge economic power. And the Democrats kind of don't want to do
that. So what, what are we going to have? We're going to have a fight in 2026 and 2028.
And the fight is going to be, are we just going to be a party that says Trump is bad
and he's terrible? Are we just going to be the party that says we're going to stop
ICE agents from ripping away kids from their families and deporting innocent people.
And we're going to stop the irrational tariffs that in some cases have increased food prices,
and we're going to stop the assault on the Department of Education and USAID and the
hollowing out of NIH and the attacks on universities.
All of that is needed.
But I don't think it's enough.
I don't think it's enough.
I don't want to just be the anti-Trump Party and return to how things were.
I want to be the party that says that ordinary Americans have been screwed because we've
gotten into wars overseas that have not helped them, but have helped the defense
industrial base that we have seen them suffer with medical debt at the expense
where private insurance has profited and that we are going to have a bold
progressive agenda. Billionaire taxes, Medicare for all, $10 a day child
gear, stop Wall Street and private equity from buying up single family
homes, 1000 new trade schools, free public college, stop giving a blank
check to Israel and Netanyahu start investing in at home in our
communities to have a Marshall plan for America to build up good paying jobs here. And by the
way, stand with workers over AI. Don't have just AI, eliminate all jobs. Make sure we're
standing with truck drivers and warehouse workers and customer service agents and that
we have AI technology not be stopped, but be developed in a way that helps workers.
We need a vision in this country. And that is what I think that the fight has to
to be in 2026 and 2028. The Epstein issue for me is just a proof point of character.
Yeah. Call out the Epstein class so you can have the trust to call out a corrupt system
that hasn't been working for ordinary Americans. It's a litmus test in the same way that like
I think Israel was a litmus test. I often would tell people that would accuse me of
being so single-minded on this issue that not only was it morally repugnant, and
of course I was going to stand against genocide, but that this lack of movement
around uh... israel or the the complete defense of israel's genocide was
actually a litmus test for a lot of people that that caused in the check
out of politics in general and refuse to vote
because
uh... as tony's he quotes uh... very uh...
uh... famously said at the time of a party that
uh... doesn't want to save lives against the genocide what makes you
think they will preserve democracy
and that was the assessment that a lot of people made even if they didn't
specifically say that, but they were just like, I don't, these guys don't stand for me.
They don't care about my interest at all. And, and I think that's where we're at. And Democrats
is refusal to, to recognize this reckoning, this populist reckoning that's coming from
the bottom up is the reason why they're still sitting at like a, a tremendous negative
disapproval rating. Like it's a negative approval rating when they are supposed to, um,
when they're when they're supposed to be very popular because they're supposed to be the opposition to Donald Trump, right?
So it's not enough and so I I'm I'm glad that you're calling this stuff out and I really I really appreciate that you're you know
You have you've noticed the tide shift that has moved away from the establishment Democrats in the way that they are
The way that they are trying to present themselves
You've called out Chuck Schumer quite a bit
It was the first Democrat to call on him to step down.
Yeah.
And then people said, bro, your career is over.
You can't get any bill through the Senate.
And then one week later, there's Chuck Schumer reading
Ro Khanna's bill, the Epstein transparency
acting for unanimous consent.
You know what progressives need to learn?
That when you're strong, people will bend to you.
When you're strong in your convictions,
then people will come to you.
That's the one thing actually Donald Trump is terrible
as he is, I understand.
That if you are strong, then people will come to you.
What we are is so weak, we say, oh, we can't criticize Chuck Schumer because Chuck Schumer
then will not move my bill.
I just showed you, you can call for Chuck Schumer to step down and he still went and he introduced
my bill with unanimous consent because I had the people on my side.
We have so many politicians are more concerned about building friendships with Chuck Schumer
than building friendships with our base.
If we had the base, if we have the American people, if we're fighting for the right
policies, the politicians will follow.
I don't court the politicians, I court the people.
And that's the fundamental difference
in who we will have leading this party in 26 and 28.
Are you going to be with the people,
or is your constituency the people in Washington, DC?
So question for you, in all of this calculation
that's taking place right now,
because there is definitely this attitude shift.
I've noticed it as well.
You have the likes of Grant Plattner
in spite of their inconsistencies in their past
with all this opposition research coming out, it seems like the democratic base of support
that previously would move on the whims of MSNBC, now known as MSNow, and establishment
Democrats are actually demanding more radical politics and do actually see that as the pathway
towards electability.
In the past, mainstream outlets, or a lot of the high-propensity voters on the democratic
primaries that are those who go out and vote, the older Democrats, they will go
They would be moved by the editorial board of the New York Times when the New York Times
said, electability is actually about moderate, about moderacy.
Electability is about moderate Democrats.
You have to vote for moderate Democrats.
They would believe people.
But I think the sequence of electoral defeats have left a lot of liberals who previously
thought that moderate Democrats were the pathway to success in demanding more from Democrats
and are totally on board with much more, quote-unquote, radical politics like Medicare for All,
which is not radical at all, obviously. And so now you're seeing the messaging shift a little bit
on the Democrat side. What do you have to say about people that will come out and be like,
oh, I'm not taking any APAC donations now. It's great. It is a market C change, right?
unheard of five years ago. People used to criticize Bernie Sanders for saying he's not going to speak
at APEC. They would say, they would have the audacity to even say like he's anti-Semitic for refusing to
speak at an APEC summit. APEC is spending against me in my district calling me a liar right now because
I co-sponsored Rashida Tlaib's bill recognizing what the UN recognized that the Israeli government
is committed to genocide in Palestine. But look, I'm glad that politicians are saying that I don't
take any PAC money. I don't take any lobbyist money, but here's the point. That's not enough.
First of all, because money can go through different organizations and different people.
They may not take it quote unquote through Apex website, but those same donors can then
call some other new entity. Or subsidiaries, DMFIs, another one, Democratic majority for Israel,
and also the same exact American donor base can still go and give these guys money, as you
said. But so my point is, where do you stand on a policy? Right? I said to someone that
But I think that one thing that the Democratic primary will want in the future leaders of
the party is just the ability to say that what happened in Gaza was a genocide by the
UN.
And they said, well, this is going to be like the 10th or 15th priority.
I said, of course, when you ask someone, what do they care about, they're going to
say, I want to make sure I have health care.
I want to make sure I have a job.
I want to make sure I can afford my rent.
And I want to make sure I have housing.
I want to make sure people have a living wage.
But people don't vote just on who's going to increase minimum wage or who's going to
help their grocery bills.
They also vote for a sense of character, of values, of who they want to be as a people.
And the issue of Gaza goes to who we are.
Are we going to deny things that we all saw with our own eyes?
Are we going to lie to ourselves about who we are as a people?
Or are we going to aspire to be a people that treats everyone with dignity and human rights?
And yes, of course, what I care about is a job and housing and living wage.
But if you don't speak to people's values, if you don't speak to their sense of morality,
you'll never get them knocking on doors and giving hears of their lives.
And that's, I think, where the disconnect happens, where these consultants look at
the polls and they've never had to inspire.
They've never had to lead.
never had to mobilize, they've never had to organize.
I mean, this is a conversation that you and I had at the DNC, specifically on the issue
of Gaza, but also beyond that on immigration. If you recall, one of the major pain points
for someone like myself was the anger that I had for the Democrats and their inability
to deal with the issue of immigration, because they were so scared of what they were seeing
in the polls about 60% of Americans being in favor of mass deportation at the time.
I said to you that like this is going to change inevitably and then there will be Democrats
who were pro more stringent, you know, the Democrats that leaned into the white nativist
hysteria concocted by the Republicans instead of counter messaging against that, we're going
to be, we're going to look inconsistent or hypocritical.
And we're there now, public attitude has swung dramatically in the opposite direction.
79% of Americans favor immigration.
It's the highest approval rating that immigration has gotten
in the history of the United States of America.
And that only took a year of black bagging and kidnapping
and mass deportation initiatives that were implemented.
So the question I have both for immigration
and actually, you know what?
Let's just stay on immigration for now.
What do you think is going to be
the broader Democratic Party sentiment at the national level against immigration now, do you
think that it's still going to demand some kind of middle of the ground approach where they're
like, yeah, some of these guys are actually rapist monsters, and we do have to deport them
implying that Joe Biden's administration wasn't doing that, which is a lie, of course they were.
If someone is doing a crime, immigrant, non-immigrant, they're going to get prosecuted.
Or do you feel as though Democrats will be more bold and question the legitimacy of the vitriolic, racialized, white, nativist, anti-immigrant sentiment that was fomented in this country?
Okay, I'm the son of immigrants, my parents came here from India.
When I still go on a plane, even when I'm going in a congressional delegation, my mom says,
please don't lose your passport.
I say, mom, I got like the military with me.
There's such a fear that immigrants have of loss.
And I saw how they adjusted in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
And we had a very welcoming community, but they sense of having an accent, the sense
of when you go in a restaurant and they would always order and say, no, we don't
I said, mom, they serve ice in these restaurants.
I mean, you got to just get used to the ice.
And I understand what it's like to be an immigrant.
And here's what I know,
immigrants make this country better.
Immigrants contribute, immigrants are patriots.
Immigrants work hard.
Immigrants start small businesses.
My mom would tell me,
learn every single word in the English language
because that's what's going to make you a patriot
and contribute to this country.
Most immigrants want their kids to learn everything
about this country to contribute to this country.
And I am tired.
And they work hard to be a part of this country.
And I'm tired of this, our party starting with immigrants
is the problem, as opposed to what immigrants do.
If I were in charge,
when they were talking about eating the dogs and cats,
you know what I would have done?
I would have said our candidates should go
to Springfield, Ohio,
and they should stand with those Haitian immigrants.
And they should start to talk about
those Haitian immigrants are actually doing humanizing the migrant population against like all the racialized animus
instead every trip we took was to the border i'm not saying of course we need a border a secure border
i'm not saying don't don't talk about that but why are you always leading with a lead with what
the community is doing now the second thing is you can't you got to be with a place of conviction
i got crushed a couple months after the election i went on bill marshal and i've said i voted against
the Lake and Raleigh Act. And I said that because even if someone has committed a criminal
act in this country, we have due process. We don't just take someone and deport them.
And that's why I voted against Lake and Raleigh. And the audience basically clearly, I lost
that debate. I lost the, I mean, if you look at the clips, you'll see where they're
now, my team was like, what, you know, you got crushed.
Where are those liberals at now on this? Like, you know what? I stuck my guns.
And now the vote looks like it was the right vote.
Now everyone's come around.
And you know what?
The people who voted for Lake and Raleigh, they just hope everyone forgets.
Yes.
And most of the country will forget.
But progressives don't forget.
What do I mean by a progressive?
Progressive is simply someone who looks at this person's record, who looks beyond
the rhetoric.
Why was Bernie Sanders so popular?
Because he had voted for the same thing for 30, 40 years.
People do their homework because they don't want just someone who's going to say the
right thing in the right moment with the trend lines who sees the wave of Bernie or a Mamdani
and says, how do I catch this wave? They want people who actually, when they get there, are
going to fight because even if you win, the fight then just begins against the special
interests are going to come after you. And if you don't have the record to stand up
on shows like Bill Maher, how are you going to have the record when you get to the
Congress or the Senate or the White House? We need people who have conviction in our
politics. And what is exciting to me is all these young progressives running across the
country. Graham Plattner in Maine, Abdul al-Saheed in Michigan, the, you know, the cat, Abzul
Ghazala in Chicago, so many. I may have just pronounced her name, but, you know, we've
endorsed dozens across the country, these old, young progressives.
Yeah, no, absolutely. And I think that that's where the momentum is. And it's very
clear that like the establishment Democrats are trying to lean into that momentum, not
fully understanding exactly why there's so much momentum or so much grassroots backing
for a lot of these candidates and simply trying to lean into that with aesthetic postures
instead of demanding more instead of openly calling out what Israel has done as genocide,
openly saying that Israel is an apartheid state and demanding change in or reconsidering
the way that we have aligned with Israel in perpetuity, they just simply say, oh, I'm not
taking any impact money. And that's wishy washy and it's marginal. It's still good that
it's like moving the needle in the appropriate direction, but it's a too little too late.
And I think that you'd like you've, like you've said over and over again, Democrats
need to stop being afraid of leading. Listen, we have a state, we have a saying in our
community at least that being a leftist is being right just too early. And you
know, you get punished for it endlessly, whether it be my opinions on Israel, whether it be my
opinions on on how the Democrats mishandled immigration and the conversation around the
immigration. This is something that I was very critical on the Biden administration on.
From April, 2021, when they, when they first noticed that a lot of people were getting
agitated and, and they thought, oh, if we just don't address this at all, if we don't do
anything that Joe Biden ran on in 2020 and defeated Donald Trump on the first 100 days
of immigration was this comprehensive agenda leaning into amnesty and things of that nature.
But they saw an overwhelming amount of people come to the border as as usually the case
whenever there is a non Republican in charge.
They didn't know how to handle it.
And this issue got completely out of control.
At the time I said they should have prosecuted Governor Greg Abbott for trafficking human
beings across state lines in a deliberate effort to gum up the works that the already
established the immigration processing was made even more difficult deliberately without
even corresponding with the other states and officials from other states in an attempt
to to exhaust their funds and exhaust their resources and it was very
successful the very fact that ronda santis
greg abit were able to do this without any scrutiny whatsoever is incredible is
insane to me
that democrats should punish them
and then they should have reappropriated funds adequately to ensure
that one this doesn't happen again into the immigrants that were already
uh... being processed now in places like new york rhodo island
and many other places
actually had the, the, the localities there actually had the proper funds to make sure
that they were integrated, uh, expeditiously and could work and, and, and not be this like
exhaustive strain on, on the limited resources that they had. Um, very frustrating to see
this all the time. Uh, but, uh, one last question I have for you, because we've already,
uh, uh, taken up a lot of your time.
Oh, this has been fun.
Yeah. Um,
I don't know how you do this hours, right?
I do it for, you know, 10 hours, eight hours.
It's crazy.
You know, that's it.
But you got a very, you know, I've been watching some of the comments and you got a very educated
and informed community.
And I, you know, they're the ones, people out there are the ones who are finally being
heard.
Well, they're nerds.
That's why it's a Saturday afternoon and they're sitting in here listening to me
talk to a cognitive person.
They're not.
I wouldn't say they're like the average American politics
appreciator.
But they're the activists.
They're the ones who'll be knocking on doors.
They'll be on social media.
Look, we have a chance, a historic chance finally
to build a progressive movement in this country.
Had finished the job that Bernie Sanders did.
I endorsed him in 2016.
I co-chaired with Nina Turner and Ben Cohen
his campaign in 2020.
I was one of his national cultures.
And we should have won.
The country would be a different place.
We wouldn't have had the mess in Gaza.
We didn't.
We came close.
we can finish the job in 26 and 28 and build an FDR-like progressive coalition.
And that's going to happen because of people here.
I mean, this is the energy of the movement.
And with Zoran winning, it shows anything is possible.
The energy is on our side.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Do you fear that foreign governments may take action against you beyond simply trying
to disparage you and dumping boatloads of funds into your opposition?
Well, look, they're going after me both because of the Epstein issue and because of my votes
and comments on Gaza, you know, and some of the tech billionaires don't like me these
days because I said that we should be for the workers and not just have AI put data
centers everywhere when it's increasing electricity costs and using water costs.
And I said that the tech companies need to be paying for that and need to have renewable
energy and need to have water use standards.
And so some people started to come after me there.
And so I have taken on some powerful interests.
But my grandfather spent four years in jail as part of Gandhi's independence movement,
literally in jail.
He was jailed twice.
But the challenge is, as an American politician, pale in comparison to that.
So when I think about, you know, what risks I'm taking, what issues I'm fighting for,
I think nothing I do will come close to the courage that my grandfather had.
And by that, I don't just mean my grandfather.
I mean all of the people who have sacrificed for this nation, whether they're people
who fought in World War II, in scale the cliffs of Normandy, whether they were people
were beaten in the Edmund Pettus Bridge, whether they were part of the colonizing movements
around the world, we have a chance to do a beautiful thing in America to build a truly
multiracial democracy of equality and dignity of every human being to move beyond the colonizers
model of the world, have a world that recognizes the dignity and human rights of every nation,
every person. And that's what we're building here. We are incredibly privileged to be
in the United States of America to have that chance. Yeah, it's, I always say like, look,
while white supremacy is, is definitely a resilient galvanizing factor for many Americans,
like Americans are much, much more open minded about diversity than even our European counterparts
are. And that is precisely the reason why in spite of Donald Trump's popularity, in spite of how
how much he hammered on, you know, undocumented migrants doing like all these crimes and whatnot,
which is, you know, pure manufactured hysteria, manufactured outrage that America's by and
large are very inconsistent in the way that they see the world. And, and there's a sea
of contradictions there for the average American politics, understand the median voter.
And that's precisely the reason why they, the very same people, if you were to ask
them, the very same people that were like, you know, holding up even the mass deportation
and deport them all placards at the Trump rallies.
If you were to ask them like,
do you think an immigrant that's been here for 10 years
that has done no crimes whatsoever
should have amnesty after background checks?
They would all collectively say, absolutely.
And I'm not making this up.
I'm not making up a hypothetical person.
There's evidence to suggest that this is the reality
because that's what the polls say.
It's not just, it is the polls I'm sure,
but you know how I know that?
because I grew up in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
99% of white Christian, I was one of the only
Indian-Hindu kids, Indian-American-Hindu kids
on the street, and I used to play Little League, baseball.
I couldn't hit, they used to put me ninth.
When I used to go up to hit, they used to say,
watch the butt, I was so bad at hitting.
But I knew those folks, and I knew they were decent
and kind and welcoming, and that they wanted me
and my family to fit in.
They didn't understand everything,
but it was a good community.
We are a decent and good people that has been exploited
by politicians who are protecting an Epstein class,
who are protecting rich and powerful people
and blaming immigrants, blaming foreign countries,
blaming LGBT and trans people
because they don't want to deal with the wealth
and the power that is shifting folks.
And if we come in with truth,
if we come in with honesty and if we say,
look, we are a decent multiracial democracy
they can respect each other.
And we are sick of having our money go
to Argentina or Netanyahu.
We're sick of the wars in Iraq or Venezuela or Libya.
We want Medicare for all.
We want $10 a day childcare.
We want to tax these billionaires
when you've got $18 trillion in Rose District.
We want childcare, healthcare, education
for every American.
Then I think we can inspire this country.
And I call it economic patriotism,
but I believe it's a patriotic vision
of what America is supposed to be
of how you can have an Indian American
Hindu faith, talking to someone a Muslim faith on a Saturday afternoon and inspiring a nation.
Let's be the best.
In a room filled with Christmas decorations.
Christmas.
There you go.
But no, absolutely.
It's what you're describing is, is coming fairly close to class first politics in general.
This doesn't mean that you write off, you know, other marginalized identities or other
marginalized groups in this, in this bargain, but it's more so to bring up.
more sort of bring voters from the other side without compromising on those values.
And I think that in the absence of Democrats engaging in this sort of class first politics,
they often simply engage in this aesthetic posture towards like protecting migrants
or protecting trans people.
And they're the first to write them off as we saw in the aftermath of the last
general election defeat where they were like, oh, well, we were just like too protective
over trans people.
It's like, that wasn't even a point of contention at all.
You never did.
And the only reason why you were defined by those policies is because you were not defined
by any of the policies that you wanted to put forward, because in the absence of being
defined by easy to understand policies like the ones that you suggested, of course your
opposition is going to frame you in whichever way they want to, and the public is going
to see you by your opposition's framing.
And that's precisely what happened.
Well, Dr. King is the most eloquent on this, and I don't remember the exact
speech, but he says, when the white man said, well, how do I feed my family? They fed him Jim Crow.
When the white man said, how am I going to have a voice? And why should I accept my place? They
fed him Jim Crow. And what King diagnosed was that systemic racism was the answer to mask
massive inequality. And what we need to do is build a kind of movement that Dr. King was
building with there, Rustin and the freedom movement that Jesse Jackson was building that had
white working class, black working class, Latino, people wealthy or not who believe that you can
have a multiracial democracy with dignity for everyone and not just wealth concentrated in
the hands of a few who have impunity. And to get it back to Epstein, the ultimate impunity
is if you feel you can rape young girls and get away with it.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, thanks so much, Ro Khanna, for coming on.
Thank you. And I appreciate your time on this. Otherwise, very busy Saturday. I love it. I appreciate it. Thank you. Merry Christmas. Yeah, to you as well. All right. Okay, here we go.
Put this over here.
here. All right, and we are going to continue with our coverage right now. Thank you. All
right, here it is. The happy Santa is back. And for all of those who are watching from
afar, this is why there's a difference between someone like myself and whoever your favorite
content creator might be in the realm of politics. Okay. It was actually quite remarkable
seeing having this conversation with Ro Khanna, especially considering that we had a multiple
previous conversations and, you know, seeing that attitude change in real time in comparison
to the DNC conversation that we had is actually pretty, pretty cool to see.
Okay.
Yeah.
What a time to be alive, huh, folks?
a time to be alive. Anyway, YouTube video show the comparison. Yeah, I mean, he was he was
a when I when I said Israel was doing a genocide at that time and I'm not saying this to like
dunk on him or anything like that. But at the time when I said Israel was committing
a genocide, he was like, Well, I wouldn't use those words, right? And that was during
the DNC and he was, as I also admitted in that conversation, one of the most at the
time open outspoken anti-Israel politicians. Very interesting stuff. Do you
not score your guess out? I have people here that do that for me now, okay.
He cooked here. Oh my God, look at his face. No, the reason why I was laughing, the reason
why I was laughing here is because like, I think a lot of people, a lot of ball knowers
know that I was smiling because I was like, I was recalling the conversation that we had
kind of corrupt system through the Iraq war, which was wrong. It led to us in 20 years
in Afghanistan. It led to the overthrow of Libya, which was a total foreign policy
blunder. It led to a supporting of Netanyahu and the genocide which the Israeli government
committed in Gaza and a blank check. And I was one of the few politicians who stood up and said no to the 14 billion and who has gotten on.
Delia Ramirez is.
Yeah, we collectively got hard right there, bro. And I know you did too. Wait, what? Oh, yeah. No, it's just it's cool to see. It's cool to see the difference.
And for the record,
I think
I think Ro has has seen
the response from the public to the ways that he is talking about these issues now. Okay?
You sure, Rokana, your foot? No. But once again, when people ask me,
Hassan, why do you do the things that you do, regardless of how much people yell at you or
say this or that? How do you stick around? It's because of this, because I have convictions.
So all of these things that people throw my way are hurdles, certainly, but hurdles I can climb,
hurdles I can clear, because at the end of the day, what I care about more than anything else is
moving American policy in a positive direction that helps people, that improves people's lives,
uncompromising, unconditionally, okay? And if I were to give up or be at the mercy of my chat,
or be at the mercy of naysayers from either to the left flank of me, or to my right,
Which is pretty much damn near the entirety of the fucking American political spectrum
I would I would just quit I would have to quit
I would not be able to achieve any of the fucking results that I want to achieve
Slowly, but surely these things happen and a big part of the reason why I'm able to do this is because of my community as well
You can't climb ship right now. Okay. Well, I physically can't you're right
Everyone is making fun of my ankle
But this is how you chip away and expand the permission structure in the leftmost position, okay?
That ch- this chat would have had you swear off, row, after the NC Combo, look how much he's grown.
Exactly. Exactly. That's it. That's why I do the things that I do, okay?
I need you to understand the reason why I'm bringing this up right now is so you understand next time you're like,
why is the son doing this? Is he betraying the revolutionary cause?
Just remember this, okay? Remember this, remember this attitude, change, remember that, you know,
it's still good to have certain allies in positions like this because when you're in these sorts of
rooms and you are uncompromising and you do actually say the truth, you have to realize
that they do sometimes listen, okay? They do. When we do that, the friend Fran Hong, that
interview was amazing. Oh yeah, no, we're working on that too. She's dope. I'm excited to have her
on the broadcast too. Anyway, so sometimes I understand it's hard. It's if your left
this is hard. You feel as though apparently you got glazed by what? 40k roaches for the
first time ever heard you speak uninterrupted for an hour. Roach can glaze due to basically
the entire chat, the entire time in chat was agreeing. Yeah, I mean, we'll get back to
business as usual tomorrow. Don't worry. The reality of the matter is if they were
to actually listen to be uninterrupted, they would probably recognize that there
There are a lot of issues that they totally have misunderstood my position on.
The drama piggies could not stop talking about asthma the entire time you were interviewing
and sitting in the position.
Yeah, what do you want me to do?
Fucking talk about asthma gold when I'm having conversations with Ro Khanna about how what
his current positions are and a lot of these issues, especially when this is a fairly
impactful moment in his political career as well, where the entire country is paying attention
to what role and Thomas Massey are going to do next, as far as like holding the administration
to account with the release of the Epstein files.
Come on now.
Two graphs, some graphic and heavily redacted.
But without context about what India means.
The big question where the files reveal a list of powerful men who took part in
Epstein's sexual abuse of teenage girls.
The FBI insisted there is no list
and initially said there was no evidence
that could lead them to charge anyone else with crimes.
President Trump had a long friendship with Epstein.
White House chief of staff Susie Wiles describing them
as sort of young single playboys together.
Trump says he and Epstein eventually had a falling out.
I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
I threw him out of my club many years ago
because I thought he was a sick pervert.
The White House chief of staff says Trump's name comes up in the files, but not doing
anything awful.
I sat down with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, who was also the president's criminal
defense attorney.
Will every document that mentions President Trump, every picture of him, every video,
every bit of information related to him and these files be released today or at some
point in this process?
Assuming it's consistent with the law, yes.
So there's no effort to hold anything back because there's the name Donald J. Trump or
anybody else's name, Bill Clinton's name, Reed Hoffman's name.
There's no effort to hold back or not hold back because of that.
And so, but again, we're not redacting the names of famous men and women that are associated
with Epstein.
To be clear, you're saying DOJ has not been ordered to redact anything related
to President Trump that there's no order to do such?
No, I mean, I would give the order.
President Trump has certainly said, from the beginning,
that he expects all files that can be released to be released.
And that's exactly what we're doing.
Trump has tried to turn the focus to Epstein's relationship
with Democrats like former president Bill Clinton.
Friday's release includes some never-before-seen images
of Clinton and Epstein together.
This picture of Clinton in a jacuzzi,
and this one of him swimming with Epstein's accomplice
convicted sex trafficker, Gillian Maxwell.
But Clinton has not been accused of wrongdoing.
In fact, the White House Chief of Staff told Vanity Fair,
there's no incriminating information
about Clinton in the files,
saying Trump was wrong about that.
Clinton putting out a statement
through a spokesperson overnight saying in part,
they can release as many grainy 20 plus year old photos
as they want.
This isn't about Bill Clinton, never has, never will be.
Geo.
Fascinating stuff there, Pierre.
And why is there a delay in releasing all of these documents?
The deputy AG told me the full release has been delayed because DOJ learned of additional
victim names this week.
He said protecting the identities of more than 1200 victims and their families is painstaking
work despite whatever criticism is out there.
Oh yeah, sure, sure.
Yeah, it's just about protecting the identities of the victims, right?
And the greatest victim of all, Donald Trump.
You see, Donald Trump is the big victim here, right?
That's the real victim in all of this.
Not the 1,200 women who may have been sex trafficked as minors.
Not the massage therapists, not the people.
Just Donald Trump, little old Donald Trump, and also the other financial elite that
were involved in these crimes.
Those are the fucking real victims Tim Dillon shouted you out in his latest podcast.
I don't know why he won't like he could just text me.
He has my phone number and I have his.
I heard some people were I heard some people were saying he wants to he wants to come on
or something. Apparently at least 65s were removed without explanation. Yeah, also none
of the fucking, um, none of the redactions also have an explanation either, which is
why it's so crazy because the redactions, every single individual redaction has some
intention behind it, okay? And what's interesting about this is that there is only a blanket
assessment on why all the redactions took place, except that is against the way that the act
was written. Because Rokana and Thomas Massey and everyone else that played a role in putting
this bill together knew exactly how the Trump administration would try to get away with
this right? So they very clearly wrote out in the fucking letter of the law that every single
redaction must be accompanied by what the actual reason for the redaction is. Internal
Department of Justice communications, including emails, memos, meeting notes, concerning decisions
to charge, not charge, investigative order, declined to investigate, obscene or as associations,
all communications, memorandum, directives, logs, or metadata concerning the destruction,
deletion, alteration, misplacement or consumulative documents, recordings or electronic data related
to Epstein's associates, his detention, his death, any investigative files, they were also supposed to
they were also supposed to direct the DOJ to provide internal communications regarding
their decisions versus the DOJ letter to Congress asserting privilege to omit materials
related to decisions because they weren't specified by law.
So they are in violation of that
What no Tim Dill was making a joke about how the Republican Party is cooked and he said something along the lines of that's it
Go give money to a son piker. He also says similar things about mom Donnie
The felon administration doesn't follow the law yet. It's a remarkable surprise to me and everyone else. I think because I really thought that the 35 count, like, I mean, I really thought the felon administration who is, you know,
who is led by the personal bestie of Jeffrey Epstein would actually be the truth tellers
here and they would actually crack open this case wide open and lo and behold shocking,
but they're not.
They're not doing that.
Compliant with the law and that the work will get done.
Janaye?
Very interesting that you said DOJ just learned the names of additional victims this
week, Pierre.
for your reporting. President Trump did not address Friday's long-awaited release of files
related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The Justice Department began releasing
thousands of records. What does this call a Sompiker? Like when I first did an investigation.
And he has red, white and blue socks on. Call the Sompiker. Go just donate us. Just give
us Sompiker Super Chat right now. Call those that retarded withers, whatever his name is.
is there's fucking Twinks from Colorado that live in a mountain that keeps screaming.
Okay, maybe won't go that far, but I'm just saying this, what it's just absurd.
Anyway, get the money.
I can't even listen.
Let me tell you something.
Can you what the fuck he's saying?
The administration is so cooked this time.
It's time for fucking woke to rise up again.
Baby, let's go.
The Colorado Twinks Dean withers.
And then he said, no, I wouldn't go that far.
Oh, that was Tim Dillon complaining about, that was Tim Dillon complaining about the
administration, flubbing yet another instance, uh, flubbing yet another, uh, investigation.
It's following, but he's right.
The Piker podcasting services sponsored by you, the viewers for you, the viewers, the fact
that he knows you, what do you mean Tim is, um, Tim Dylan has been giving me shoutouts
for years, constantly complaining about how much I was getting canceled, how he never
got canceled and it was annoying him.
The fuck do you mean?
Woke to baby
Woke 2.0 is here. Okay. I'm telling you a lot of shifts are going to happen. They're already happening
Shifts are happening all around us. Okay, and I called it and I told you
And obviously I told you that it wasn't gonna happen without people pushing for it and here you are pushing for it
Obviously, we're not going to step on the same landmines that may be woke one 1.0 stepped
on because there was some, some growing pains.
You know what I mean?
50 bones from legal heretic, by the way, thank you.
Thank you so much.
Are you declaring woke?
I mean, woke Sharia has been my rallying cry for the longest time.
jihad woke sharia this is what i've been about because because the the unlimited unrestrained
endless reactionary posture is so repulsive to the average person brother because these
guys are fucking rudderless all they care about is like dominating libtards or whatever
or being able to say slurs and the reality of the matter is that gets really boring after a
while. That gets really gross after a while. And we're there. People are already going,
oh dude, you're like a 50 year old man. Why the hell are you still talking about how you're able
to say slurs or whatever? There is genocide happening around the world. There is,
the Trump administration is a bombing Venezuela, entertaining the notion of doing a rock 2.0 in
Venezuela this time. Prices have not gone down. People can't afford shit. And data
centers are popping up all around the country and it's making electricity bills go electricity bills
skyrocket and you're over here talking about like being able to see flowers and how we're going to
be really dunking on the lip tards now i promise now has on i laughed so hard when broke conna
called the chest smart and complimented people's chatters and you had the not along even though
you call as dumbasses all day i mean i did i did get my get back there because i said
Uh, y'all are nerds, which is true. And of course you're smarter than the average
Person that's tuning into politics. Are you kidding me?
The fuck I mean come on now, but if I didn't if I didn't
Bring you back down to reality every now and then without fucking constantly yelling at you you would be
You would be ridiculous you'd be a ridiculous person and many of you are still ridiculous person
I did also get Ro Khan to accidentally say Gizlain Maxwell.
Passage last month of the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
I measured the president opposed for months before signing it into law.
But as CBS News justice correspondent Scott McFarland reports,
the document up was far from complete.
Photos this morning of many of the powerful who ran and convicted sex
offender Jeffrey Epstein's circle. Bill Clinton seems swimming in a pool
with Gellane Maxwell and another woman with her face redacted.
Clinton with another unknown woman on his lap.
Celebrities too including Michael Jackson and Diana Ross.
Epstein with Mick Jagger and Chris Tucker with Maxwell.
Many of the records are heavily redacted.
Survivors say suspiciously so, including Epstein grand jury records.
We do see Epstein's book of contacts with the name of President Trump,
his late wife and his daughter Ivanka.
A list of girls or young women listed as masseuses keeps the names private,
but shows there were more than 250.
How confident are you at the end of the day, the end of this period, you'll get everything?
I don't feel tremendously confident that everything will come out.
Survivors, including Annie Farmer, have been fighting for years for the release of records
and say they're frustrated. These records are incomplete.
There's been a lot of effort and money and time put into redactions,
not to protect victims, but to protect people in power.
Many of the records released have long been public already,
including videos in the jail. The night Epstein died, which had been a
Yeah, that came out in 2020. We know what that unredacted contact list looks like anyway. So that's not even new
There is some new stuff here. There was definitely new rare clintons. Okay. There was a couple shiny pokemon kardas
clinton photos in there
that is
Definitely real
And I think that was deliberate
outside of
Seems like outside of bill clinton no other
politically relevant individual
With the exception of like the rare Ehud Barak
Was actually shown in these investigations at all. I wonder why I
Wonder why and for the record before someone even ever dares to accuse me of defending bubble here lock his ass up
Put him in jail. I've been an advocate to throw Bill Clinton in jail for many many years. Okay
Put Hillary in there, too. Fuck it. I don't give a shit make my day. Go ahead make my fucking day
I despise both of these individuals.
I hate their politics.
I hate the impact that they've had on American politics.
And also I hate the potential crimes that they were,
that they were engaging in, okay?
Investigate them, lock them up, I don't give a shit.
But, you know, put Donald Trump in there too.
Fair is fair.
Obtained months ago by CBS News.
The Department of Justice sent Congress a letter Friday night defending what they released
saying they were being transparent, but also protecting victims.
The bipartisan group that pushed through this law is not satisfied.
It was just watching Asimogol, watching you and reacting to the interview and he's very
supportive overall and agree with everything except we shouldn't be ruthlessly deporting
migrants.
He's definitely feeling the tide shift.
Yeah, he'll feel the fucking migrant deportation tide shift too.
It's an inevitability.
It's just that the media hasn't been like really covering that approach, even though
the overall public sentiment has shifted there as well.
Asmongold needs to feel a showerhead of shrew.
Yeah, Asmongold is asmin' woke now.
Either calling for hearings
or potential legal challenges
to force the department to release more.
For CBS Saturday morning, Scott McFarlane, Washington.
They have been released then
after so long the Epstein files
or some of them at least.
This was Epstein's world, through files held for so long by the Justice Department, now unsealed.
Or at least the first batch of them.
Thousands of documents, about 4,000 in this.
Stop shitting on him, he's changing.
I really think he's coming around. Oh my god.
Brother, we are never gonna have progress. I swear to God. I'm sorry. People are so fucking stupid
People are so fucking stupid, dude
This man spent the last two years every single fucking day complaining about how I was a
Terrorist an anti-semitic
Terrorist who needs to be deplatform who was who was putting the entire twitch platform
In the crosshairs of who of Asmongold? Ironically enough Asmongold backed outrage
manufacturing
You think overnight he changed really he's got a he's got a kind heart all of a sudden
Okay, we'll see the switch up if he starts admitting that he was wrong about me
If he starts admitting that he was wrong about all the things that he was advocating for, you know
I'll potentially entertain it
Okay, I
I just don't think that that is a sincere change. I think he's just basically seeing
the attitude shift and he is trying to manage his own community.
Okay, this isn't...
This is a political actor who has spent most of his political output
attacking me ruthlessly in an effort to present me as an...
and present me as an unserious or dangerous individual, okay?
And many in his audience actually agreed with him
using Islamophobic sentiment.
A person who has fomented so much hatred,
not just against me, but just in his entire,
entire marginalized communities.
And he was always very open about it too.
He's like, yeah, I'm doing whatever I can to get by.
I'm doing whatever I can to, you know,
I'm doing whatever I can to generate as much clout. It's not like he was not like he was shy about it
Yeah, he is openly talk about how he's doing this to benefit himself
And that's precisely the reason why we said he doesn't have like a lot of firmly held convictions
On on any of the political issues that he's talking about that's precisely the reason why he can present his new attitude
shift as a as a sincere change of heart
While simultaneously saying that like people like myself are fucking grifters or audience captured even though I spent every waking hour yelling at my own audience
for for being insane
or even
You can literally look at the past 12 years of my commentary where you haven't seen my opinions change as a matter of fact
the reason why this Rokana thing was so entertaining, at least for me and many in my community, is
partially because every single thing that I had said to Rokana at the DNC has unfolded
in the exact same ways that I said it would unfold and Rokana is now on my side, like
he moved in my direction. Bar for bar, go back and literally rewatch that interview
the DNC with me and Rokana and then match it up against Rokana's positions now and you will understand.
Okay.
First release. So our team has gone through them and I'm gonna split this up into several strands,
the celebrities, the victims, the redactions. The celebrities first we know that Jeffrey
Epstein socialized widely. His network spanned the arts, business, politics, royalty, high
society. And so association with him does not equate to wrongdoing. There are images
of him with Michael Jackson. He's also photographed with Diana Ross and former president Bill
Clinton. He features a lot in this dump of images. His association with Epstein
is well known and he is on record expressing his regret at having ever known him. Clinton
his photograph in the files with Kevin Spacey too. There's an image of Mick Jagger with
Gillian Maxwell. None of these photos have any context to them. We don't know.
Like you understand that he's not actually on your side though right because he's an
establishment dem him echoing your rhetoric rather Luke Warmley doesn't mean much.
You're delusional if you think that that is the case. Not to say that he's not like a Democrat
but there is obviously a left flank within the Democratic party right now that is
sincerely, sincerely advocating for certain policies that I would love to see implemented
because I know it will generally improve people's material conditions. Medicare for
all being one of them. And no, I don't think he was lukewarm in a lot of this stuff. But
that's how this is precisely what I was explaining earlier. This is how change happens. Okay,
doesn't happen overnight. That's my whole point. Do you not understand? By the way, this is
yet another instance of me yelling at people who are or criticizing people who are to the
left ostensibly to my left flank for not understanding that like there are there are things that
you need to do to establish coalitions and get people on board with your message.
And this is perhaps the worst possible time to say this, because part of the big part
of the reason why we're seeing even the fracture, the files that we've seen so far from the
Jeffrey Epstein investigation is because of Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey.
Okay, and yeah, I don't think these are guys to my left flank necessarily. I think they're just like
They're they're they're they're just kind of oblivious to how change happens
It's going to continue for the record.
Guess who's trying to roast you through your recent comments to his videos?
Azmin? I don't care. Okay, he's going to continue doing that until more and more people from his
audience peel away and actually more and more people from his audience peel away and move
on to different people or to different politics because there's only so much anti-woke sentiment
you can lean into until people realize, like, okay, my financial situation hasn't changed,
like, okay, we're fucking fighting the trans people, we're fighting the wokes, we're fighting
all the, all the wokes, but like, my rent is still going up, my job prospects are
in the shitter, okay? There's only so much you can propagandize to a population that is
feeling the pain, okay? That's it. And when that fucking happens, more and more people
will peel away. Maybe some of them will come here. You know, the ones who weren't like
so negatively propagandized against, right? But ultimately it doesn't even matter if they
don't come here. As long as they become loyal soldiers of progress in this country, I'm happy
to have them on board, you know, they can follow along.
Who took them or when they were taken. But remember they are all part of the Epstein
estate seized over the years and sealed until now. Here's a picture of Sarah Ferguson,
wife, of course, of Andrew, formerly Prince Andrew, and he features too. This is an image
of the former prince lying across several women. The only other person identified in this document
is Guillain Maxwell. Now we've cross-referenced this photo with other photos and it was taken at
the late Queen's home, Sandringham, in the UK. Of course, Andrew was friends with Epstein and
Maxwell. He settled financially out of court with Virginia Geffray, who had accused him of
sexual assault. He's always denied any wrongdoing. Let's focus now on the victims of Epstein and
Maxwell's abuse and how their story can be told through these files. Here's an image of two young
women, perhaps girls, we can't be sure, in Paris. Their identity has been hidden. The Department
of Justice says it redacted more than 1,200 names or images of victims and their relatives.
We know from existing testimony from victims, like Virginia Jafray, that Epstein took girls he
recruited on trips including to Paris. They were often recruited with the promise that they would
become masseuses and this image here nods to that. But within these files there are new court
documents detailing how Epstein and Maxwell recruited their victims. Some of the documents
are already in the public domain. This is evidence that form part of the case of a victim
identified only as Jane Doe 3. Message pads to convey missed messages for Epstein. They
span 2004 and 2005. Two of them read, I have a female for him. But there are redactions,
so we don't know who left the messages or who wrote them down.
Yeah, like, is that a victim? Because Jeffrey Epstein did oftentimes utilize victims as
as well to bring in new people, bring in new girls,
or was that a pimp, an adult, not a victim at all,
who was tasked with finding new victims for Jeffrey Epstein?
This is the type of shit that is very frustrating.
Okay, and it's so insincere.
The way that these guys straight up made it seem
though they were redacting exclusively the victims to protect their identity while simultaneously
protecting actual fucking pedophiles is insane, dude. It's incredible.
And what blows my mind about it is that there are some people who are, you know,
doing this now, okay, in the MAGA contingency. Other than safe to say the FG falls kind of
backfired on the democrats
yet totally man it totally
this is about democrats versus republicans right
no man this about everybody versus pedophiles okay
you have a literal pedophile protecting president who is besties with the
pedophile that we're talking about
uh... who's department of justice spent most of the time
in between now and thirty days ago trying to actively delete his image
from all of the fuckin files
and they even, they, they unironically left some of it on accident and then only went
back and deleted it after the fact when people were like, oh, there's Donald Trump right there.
It's so out in the open.
You have to be a real fucking lobotomy recipient to, to not see what's going on here.
Like what the fuck are you kidding me?
out of here. 90% redacted. Then there's this. It appears to be a sort of scrapbook storybook
similar to the birthday book which was released a few months ago. It's heavily redacted and
it's very disturbing to be honest. At the top here once upon a time there was a clueless
little girl it reads. Have a look at this too. It's an incident report from the Palm
Beach Police Department. The common location for all the incidents detailed is 358
At least 16 files on the FC release disappear from the DOJ webpage including a photo of Trump with no explanation
I think we know the explanation
You know
That's crazy man, that's actually fucking crazy
They're just so what did I tell you? What did I fucking tell you?
You can't rely on the Democrats, but you can always bank on this administration fucking things up
Okay, what did I tell you? I told you these motherfuckers are so goddamn incompetent. I
Told you
You can always bank on it, okay
No, Kelsey, no Polly market, but you can always put the fucking house on this admin
Finding a way to fuck this up
They are so goddamn incompetent
They're immoral they're loyalists to Trump, but they're so fucking incompetent that they're always going to fuck it up
At least 16 files of disappear from the Justice Department's public web page for documents related Jeff Ramsey
including a photograph showing Trump less than a day after they were posted with no explanation
for the government and no notice to the public.
I'm sure people will map out exactly which ones those documents were, by the way.
And it'll show you, it'll show you even more, it'll give you even more insight into how
the DOJ is moving here, what their ambition is here, what they're trying to fucking
hide.
I mean, one of the most obvious things that they were trying to do with the
redactions was redacting Donald Trump in its entirety from the fucking Epstein files.
And they did such a stupid job at it.
The smart thing to do here would have been to at least leave some clear new Trump photos,
at least to not invite so much suspicion that they were just eradicating Trump, control
left Trump and just delete everything.
The worst possible thing they could have done is delete a photo of Trump that they failed
to redact last time.
That is crazy.
It's so obvious what you're doing is that the cover-up is now a part of the crime.
What the fuck did you think was gonna happen?
Yeah, also, this is why the law said downloadable and searchable.
They didn't do it.
Now they delete shit.
Yep.
Is this criminal? Yes, except as I've said over and over again, criminality is not necessarily
about following the letter of the law, but more so about, more so about whether or not
there is a regulatory body that will hold you to account. And obviously the fucking
insane asylum is being run by the nutters. Okay? So, they're not going to investigate themselves.
They're the ones that are doing the crime. The investigators and the people who are supposed
to prosecute against such crimes are the ones doing the crimes. They also redacted a
phase on a Clinton plus MJ image that wasn't previously redacted. They redacted MJ's kid's
phases. Yeah. Oh my God, I think this is gonna move people. I do think so. Because this is
Trump's weakest. This is Trump's the weakest thing, right? This is the thing that people
hate about Trump. Even Trump's own fans do not like the way he has mishandled the Epstein
stuff, the way he has actively tried to shelter the public from the Epstein investigation,
and the way he's conducted himself, the way he's conducted himself in the process, here
are the list of files that were removed. They failed to delete the indexes. Okay, well,
I don't know, can you guys find it? The Normies already hate it, critical, put
video out of course of course who who other than Megan Kelly is going to take
the opposite pivot here and try to normalize pedophilia that is insane
okay most people are at least of sound mind enough to recognize that they
shouldn't be running around saying that they're pro-pedophilia
stop not the normie whisper of course normie whisper is gonna come out with a
anti-fc video are you kidding me it's the most like it's the most normal
position you can have my dad finally flipped off Trump today because all
this hell yeah take it where you can get it
take the W's where you can get it don't be like insincere about
genuine attitude shifts it's obviously not the same if we're talking about like
a conservative commentary person right
obviously you know people who are engaging in the propaganda at the
behest of this administration are are totally in a separate category here
members of the media are in a separate category here. They need to be met with,
they need to be met with more scrutiny. Okay. However, if you're talking about your parents
or any number of different people in your immediate family, your coworkers,
stuff like that, them changing their attitude on this is good. Okay. That's a good thing.
Just don't immediately, don't dunk on them is what I'm saying. Okay. Don't just like
shot of shit on them. It's good. Claims that were serious ethical breaches by the prosecutors
talks about how seriously Ken apparently seems attorney Ken Starr takes the bible in the law
a man of great faith appears to refer to assistant US attorney Mary Willafana doesn't want to create
a written record refers to Alan Dershowitz and Ken working washing the drop the fed charges
appears to address US attorney Alexander Acosta. So this was one of the this was one of this
suspicious. It's fucking impossible to read this shit, unfortunately, but this was a letter,
this was a typed out letter that apparently was addressed to US Attorney Alexander Acosta.
Okay, some of the text under the redacted bars is copy pasteable. By the way, I haven't
seen anyone cover that several full victim names in SSN, not bullshitting. They fucked
Wait, really?
No.
Okay, what they deleted, I use the command line tools to compare Epstein-Tronch, Dataset1Zip, downloaded approximately
8 p.m. yesterday for the same Tronch downloaded approximately
5 p.m. today. It revealed the files that have been deleted and and it's
apparently, hold on, I'm like I'm gonna do a cursory glance at what the files
were that were deleted so I can to make sure that there isn't anything like
crazy in there.
Some of these are potentially, well some of these are censored for nudity, some
of these might be censored for... wait, what the fuck? Why did they censor this?
This is the massage chair thing. The massage chair and the Epstein, one of the Epstein
manners. Oh, then this is the obvious one that we talked about already, the Trump image.
that was deleted and then this one I don't know why they deleted this there's
also like baby oil everywhere dude what the fuck is up with these guys and baby
oil actually one of the things that I've also found very strange about this
whole process is like when you get this deeper insight into the the living
conditions of Jeffrey Epstein, or even like the quarters of someone like this, you get
to understand them from afar, albeit in a more personal way. That's fucking AstroGlide.
That's for fucking, okay, that's insane. Like he had AstroGlide on his desk next to a goddamn
landline phone like that's crazy
but but the one thing that i always found so
interesting about the way he chose to live
um his new york mansion was more lived in as opposed to the island the island was
not inviting at all then the new york mansion was not inviting either
but the island the island itself looked
so crazy like for someone as wealthy as jeffrey ebsden it always is a
Remarkable that the island was so bare bones. You know, it was so
um
Like the furniture was was so even this
Right here like this is so cheap
you know
It was so tacked like the the new york mansion is more lived in but it's more tacky the island on the other hand was so
uh focused on
Almost this like a performance right like it's it's a it's very
it looked very thrown together with like the cheapest things that you could possibly put together.
I like there were beds without bed frames you know what I mean it's like very odd there is
definitely a market difference between like a notable difference between the New York mansion
where he spent most of his time living versus Little St. James Island but when you looked at like
like the little st. James island and the inside of the little st. James island rooms.
I know the word you're searching for, but I'm not telling you what it is. Okay, tell me
what the word I'm searching for. Say it. It's almost austere. The, the, the little
St. James Island. Like it was, it's very cheap and hastily put together and not very, not
lived in, right? There is no like, New York is gaudy. Little St. James is just very, like
Little St. James was, was designed like it was put together at the last second with
like the cheapest furniture you could probably put together. Yeah, it would look like the
fucking back rooms almost a very purpose specific very purpose built both are unsettling in different
ways austere yes sterile austere very liminal anyway this is uh i this is from the massage
room in the new york manner though you can tell like when something is from the new york
manner as opposed to photos from the the island too because of like even the
furniture that they're using and the artwork that's presented. I wonder why
they deleted this one.
Mostly just this photo. I wonder if it's this image that was the reason why
they deleted it.
Well, speculating on the psychology of how Epstein operated, this is classic narcissistic
performance behavior, creating a narrative is how these people almost like any actual
chairs interesting. However, yeah, no, it's everything is a performance, obviously every
aspect of this, every aspect of design actually feeds into a psychological profile because
like these decisions they're making, whether it's hastily put together or not, is still offering
insight into the mind of Jeffrey Epstein or the people that he hired. But even the decision that
he made to hire the people that he hired to do the interior decoration is still going to give you
some insight. And the artwork, I think, is a very great example of this. If you notice,
like, a lot of the artwork is creepy, a lot of the artwork is mostly women,
A lot of the artwork that he posts all around his house is just like scary almost like and then beyond that the photos of actual people is always Jeffrey Epstein himself with very famous people so it's very clear that he was like using other you know other notable individuals as a jump off point to present himself as like someone in the know someone in the someone in like these circles because he's
He's not homies with the fuckin' Pope. Why does he have a photo with the Pope?
He's not homies with MBS like that. Why does he have a photo with MBS?
Normal circumstances, you put people, you know, you put your loved ones in fucking frames and you display them.
But for him, it was always a display of power, right?
It wasn't just, it wasn't even just a display of power that he wanted to showcase to other people.
Okay, it was a display of power that he wanted to reassert for himself
Like he wanted to reinforce that it and reinforce that as well because if you notice like
Especially in the photo that we saw
Earlier that was deleted. Where is it that this one in the desk drawer a lot of the photos if you look at Jeffrey Epstein's
Like some of the photos of Jeffrey Epstein would like notable people is
is unironically forward-facing, it's outward-facing,
it's to show other people like these are the people
that I'm around, but then there are some
that are also facing him.
So he's making the deliberate decision
to look back at those photos and remind himself
or reinforce this notion that this is who he is.
This is who he's around.
This is the extensive power that he had.
It's a very, very strange thing to do.
Anyway, what are your thoughts on Fidel Castro being photographed with Jeffree Epstein?
He don't got internet.
What do you mean?
He don't got internet, man.
The fuck?
I think that's a little bit different than, um, that's a little bit different than like
Noam Chomsky who like extensively had relations with Jeffree Epstein far beyond what we initially
suspected. He was too weird to have a family, so the only attempt he was, he may was asking
Ghislaine to have him get one of his victims pregnant to, assuming the abuse.
So Epstein was a strange guy. Is that what you're saying? Pretty far-fetched if I say
so myself. Yes, that is the argument I'm making. I'm saying that Jeffrey Epstein
was a strange man. Very quirky guy, you know, not to use, not to use such heated language,
but I kind of feel like he wasn't a very good guy. Okay, kind of feel like it was a strange
man with quirks and maybe wasn't the best guy around. Hard to make this judgment here,
know, but a bit quirked up a lot of oddities. So unlike the numerous photos that came out
of Jeffrey Epstein with Noam Chomsky that makes Noam Chomsky look bad, the one photo
that he has with Fidel Castro doesn't actually make Fidel Castro look bad. It probably lends
more further evidence for the theory that he might have been an intelligence asset.
The excessive photos could be trophies which aren't uncommon in the realm of criminology
killers and pedophiles often will keep tokens of those they had power over. Now I think
this was also the showcase to other people like what level of power he had.
He wanted to display it to others as well.
But, um, yeah, still fucking insane that he just,
what is this now? Why the fuck with the FC files be fun?
This is getting too dark. This is not fun.
Yeah, a lot of these guys, I think, are, are, you know,
showing exactly what their opinion is on a lot of the stuff like autism capital and all these other fucking right wing dipshits are like,
Oh, this is not fun.
I'm not having fun anymore.
Mr. Sarkis like, why would the fucking international sex trafficking conspiracy be a fun thing, a fun event?
Very odd takes.
I've seen a bunch of the people, you know, have takes like that.
I've seen a bunch of the people who approached from a totally partisan perspective to make
it seem like this is a complete vindication for Donald Trump.
Very stupid.
It's Elbrio Way.
That's Epstein's home.
It names Epstein as one of three people arrested.
The names of the other two have been redacted, and it's not clear why that decision was
made.
Over many pages, it then details the testimony of numerous victims.
of them labelled as juveniles. This file contains a number of redacted images of females. We
can't say why the redactions have taken place. The rationale for the redactions is not clear
in all circumstances with these documents and that is a really big issue because there
are so many black lines. Have a look at this document, grand jury testimony and the
whole thing, 119 pages. All of it is black. Now some redactions are to protect victims
But are they all?
With every black line, someone will cry cover-up,
and the conspiracy rumbles on.
They're inconsistencies too.
Here is a redaction, but then here, video of the same moment,
and the hidden person is revealed
to be academic Stephen Pinker, who
says he once traveled on Epstein's plane
and had no relationship with him.
Quite remarkably, there is a disclaimer
at the top of the Department of Justice website,
saying that they might inadvertently
have failed in places to redact information.
And that hardly conveys a confidence of a job well done.
There is no new mention of President Trump
in this fresh batch of documents.
The president, remember, says he disassociated himself
from Epstein in the early 2000s.
The Department of Justice has said
that it will release thousands more documents
in the weeks ahead.
Now to what is being called a large scale strike
by the United States against dozens of targets in Syria.
The Trump administration says it is targeting.
Well, she was part of the anti-feminist science
professor team, Epstein pushed.
I mean, yeah, a lot of the,
was this grand jury info public before?
I doubt that they, no, this is from 2018.
I
Don't know but I suspect that this came out yesterday, right? There's no way that they
You nice is grand jury Southern District of New York
It came out yesterday this is there's new files today some of it is new
Wait try highlighting and copying the black text no you can't
Yes, it's in the directory data set 206 if you look at the URL.
Wait, was this blacked out yesterday but it's not?
New York released, NY released it, Trump redacted illegally?
Yup, second round of Doc Scout released a couple of hours ago.
I don't recall this.
Wait, search Trump.
I mean, this is, maybe, this is the newer one, this is the newer grand jury.
This is the newer grand jury indictment from Southern District of New York.
I don't think Trump would be mentioned that much in this, even though he was president
at the time.
Yes I did see that they missed covering Trump in one of the photos and then they deleted
that photo haphazardly earlier today.
The first release yesterday was of the data set 204.
They released more later.
Okay, so everything that came after 204 is new.
So this is the new stuff.
This is, they released data sets five, six, and seven today.
and seven today. Why are they drop drip feeding the documents? They're drip feeding
the documents because they're just going through they're going through
every single thing to like use the fucking highlighter pen as heavy-handedly as
possible. Good afternoon special agent bleep good afternoon could you please
state your spell your full name special agent where do you currently work
FBI special agent how long you've worked as special agent for over two
years where he currently assigned the violent crimes against children squad.
Agent is works in child exploitation of human trafficking matters. We also work
international and parental kidnappings. Have you participated in investigation of
Jeffrey Epstein as associates? He says yes. Have you spoken with other people
including other law enforcement officers? Yes. Have you reviewed reports and
documents? Yes. Testimony miss bleep. So ladies and gentlemen some of the
testimony you're gonna hear today will include hearsay as you know that means
the witness will not be testifying solely from her own observations but that
she'll also be reporting on others special agent I'm placing in front of you
what's been marked as grand jury exhibit 1 do you recognize that it's a
presentation that was prepared to assist in testifying today
during the course of your investigation have you learned where FC maintains
residences yes where does he have residences he has a residence here in
Manhattan along with Palm Beach Virgin Islands in New Mexico New Mexico
one is called the Zoro Ranch by the way. Does he maintain an address in Manhattan
located in 971st Street? Yes. If we could turn to slide 2, does that
fairly and accurately depict the residence? Would you please describe that
property for the Grand Jury? It's a multi-story resident. It's reportedly the
largest residence in Manhattan. It's right near Central Park. Does Epstein also
maintain an address in Palm Beach, Florida located 358 El Brillo Way? Yes.
It's a villa in Palm Beach right on the water. Has an in-ground pool along
with a guest residence or apartment connected to it.
Asking about the witnesses.
Did you tell you approximately how old she was when both of these photographs?
Okay, well, witnesses, you've interviewed during the investigation.
During the course of this investigation, have you participated in interviews with an individual named Redacted?
Agent says yes.
For today's purpose, I'm just going to refer to her as Redacted.
About how many times have you interviewed her?
We've spoken to her approximately five times turning the next slide or these photographs have redacted. Yes
Did she tell you approximately how old she was when both of these photographs are taken? Yes
What did she tell you the photo on the left?
She was approximately 13 years old and the photo on the right. She would have been 17 years old
What is redacted's date of birth and these are identifiable factors about the victims so obviously they're you know
Redacting those that's valid in addition to your participation interviews
Have you also reviewed reports from other law enforcement officers who interviewed redacted?
Is your testimony today based on both of your review of those reports and also your personal participation in reviews with Jane Doe?
Can you speak up a little bit about a little bit more? Thanks. Okay, so based on participation in this investigation
Have you learned where Jane Doe was living when she was about 14 years old? Yes, where she was living
She was living in redacted was she living with her parents known out at the time
She had a difficult home life, which is consistent with other pedophiles as well, of course, pedophiles who specifically choose pedophiles who specifically choose their victims of, you know, a bad home life victims who are vulnerable.
vulnerable in an effort to more easily predate on them.
You know, they target victims of broken families,
people on the verge of homelessness,
kids on the verge of homelessness, things of that nature.
When she going to school,
she had started and dropped out about when
did she drop out of school at the beginning
of her freshman year,
a few months into her freshman year approximately.
And at about this time,
how was she supporting herself financially?
She worked different jobs,
she worked in catering halls,
the waitress and restaurants and in clubs.
Did there come a time when Redacted learned about Jeffrey Epstein?
How did that first happen?
She met a girl named Redacted who told her that she could make money if she massages a rich guy.
And when she heard from Redacted, how did she respond?
She wanted to make money, so she agreed.
What did she agree to?
She agreed to go to his residence and massage him.
Did Redacted recall how old she was when she first went to his residence?
She says she was approximately 14.
And just to confirm the date of birth listed on the slide is that Redacted date of birth.
So, you testified that she ultimately went to his residence, the one in Manhattan.
How many times did she go to Epstein's residence?
Multiple times, dozens.
During the time she went to Epstein's residence in Manhattan, did she tell you about what
typically would happen?
Yes.
What are some of the things that she told you about what happened there?
So the first time when she went with redacted, she entered the residence.
They waited in the office until they were escorted upstairs to the massage room.
Once in the massage room, Jeffrey Epstein came into the room.
laid down on the table and once he was on the table, a girl massaged each side and then
redacted would be asked to leave the room.
The other redacted person would stay from there.
Once he turned over, he wanted his nipples pinched while he massurated.
Things progressed each additional time she went.
This is for the record exactly what he did a million times over.
This is again the same pattern with the ways in which he constantly pushed the
boundaries or I mean to 1200 plus victims right as far as we know the ones
that we know of they were underage some of them were not minors but many of them
were also underage at the time and he would slowly were surely just like you
know make them do more and more and more remember this is a consistent
pattern of abuse, consistent pattern of pedophilic abuse.
This was some of this, some of this investigation comes
from the previous one for the record.
This is being re-litigated in 2018,
but what's being re-litigated in 2018 was actually
information that they had in the previous investigation.
The one that he got a sweetheart plea bargain on,
plea bargain deal on that was unheard of, okay?
As Rokana said, 60 charges were brought up
and he was only charged with two.
He was convicted with two out of 60 charges.
Cause this incident is from 2002,
which was of course part of the criminal investigation
that ended in 2008 with a conviction.
So, you know, Acosta knew these things, he read through these investigations, and then
allowed him to roam free, free to continue abusing people.
And not just Acosta, but like Alan Dershowitz was obviously Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer, he
She negotiated that plea deal very effectively, so.
Trump is mentioned here having sex with underage girls?
No.
No, you mean you're talking about the 14-year-old, right?
He wasn't mentioned as having sex with the...
Send me the link.
That's not a...
That's not a...
Oh, this is, yeah, this is the Gillian-Maxwell one.
This is where Trump was mentioned multiple times.
Yeah.
This is, I think this is a deposition, right?
Filed under seal.
This firm represents intervener Professor Alan Dershowitz, and we write in anticipation
of the party's forthcoming motion practice concerning the confidentiality of Sarah
Ransom deposition.
Intervenor requests that if the court allows plaintiff Virginia Jeffery to remove the confidentiality designation concerning the ransom deposition
an action that will require modification of the protective order. In this case, it also simultaneously removed the confidentiality designation from several related emails.
The emails will demonstrate that Ms. Ransom's inflammatory salations and defintory testimony regarding the intervenor and others is false
and that the deponent is not credible. Absent this relief, Ms. Ransom's unrebuted testimony will gravely prejudice intervenor by publishing deliberate lies calculated to harm his reputation.
reputation. Counsel for Ms. Joffrey has not indicated whether she consents to
removing the confidentiality designation from the emails and counsel has
indicated that Ms. Joffrey is not sure whether she will seek to remove the
confidentiality designation from ransom's deposition, notwithstanding her
prior letter requesting that relief privately. Nevertheless, we write in an
abundance of caution and to avoid the risk of decontextualizing one side
disclosure. This was the testimony. I will make sure that neither that evil bitch Hillary
or the pedophile Trump gets elected. I will also make sure that everyone on the goddamn
planet sees that footage and photos and we will release them to WikiLeaks by Sunday.
I will take down Epstein and his bunch of fuck with cronies myself. I've also gone
of the Russian newspaper. This was one of the victims, Ms. Ransom. These are her statements
and emails. The reason why they're using these statements is to say she was not a credible
uh... witness
and that uh... and that her testimony should be sealed
yet the first mention of trump is here
her testimony was fabricated from whole cloth miss rance's testimony also
contains a slew of other incendiary claims concerning the sexual
proclivities of donald trump bill clinton and other prominent individuals
clinton trump must pay for what they did to us as most the rest of the man
they were involved in their CD Inner Circle.
Another friend was one of the many girls that had sexual harassment with Donald Trump.
She confided in me about her casual friendship with Donald.
Mr. Trump definitely seemed to have a thing for her, and she told me how he kept going
on about how he liked her pert nipples.
Donald Trump liked flicking and sucking her nipples until they were raw.
One evening, when we were showering together, she showed me her nipples.
They looked incredibly painful as they were red-spoiled, and I remember wincing
when I looked at them.
I also know she had sexual harassment with Trump, but Jeffries, New York mansion
on regular occasions as I once met Jen for coffee just before she was going to meet Trump
and Epstein together at his mansion.
I've already corresponded with the Moscow police and aided them in stopping Hillary or Trump
getting through.
I will film my own interview with the subject and post it on every single.
Yeah, these are these are emails from Sarah Ransom to Maureen Callaghan
But given that this was like I
Think they're the reason why they don't mind showing this stuff is because it was like struck from the record
I guess so they're like
They were saying that she was not a credible
Witness, I'm not entirely sure about what happened with Sarah Ransom. So I don't know
This shit is wild. They try to cover it up but then do this anyway. Film director Brett
Ratner who was accused by several women of harassment during Me Too. Brett Ratner. Women.
And more recent was picked by Melania Trump. Oh it was Brett Ratner that was trying
I think the topless man is John
Luke Brinnell. If I'm not
mistaken for the record, Yeah,
this is the rush hour guy. Okay.
I have to pee real quick. I'll
be I'll get back to this in a
second here. Watch this, uh,
you know, retaliatory strikes
against ISIS in Syria. Islamic
state fighters and weapons
sites. It's in retaliation for
the deadly ambush in Syria that
left three Americans dead a
week ago in a social media
post Defense Secretary Pete
and Secretary Pete Hedges said the goal of the strikes is to eliminate ISIS fighters,
infrastructure and weapons sites.
At a campaign-style event last night in North Carolina, President Trump hailed the operation
as a success.
The president is spending the holidays at his Florida resort, Willie James Inman, is
traveling with the president.
Good morning, Willie.
Meg, good morning to you.
President Trump promised the U.S. would respond following that attack that killed three
Americans.
learning about that response in which more than 70 targets were hit. On Friday
the U.S. military conducted strikes against dozens of locations in Syria to
take out threats posed by ISIS. U.S. Central Command described the operation
as a massive strike and said it was a retaliatory attack. It was very
successful. It was rescindin. We hit every site flawlessly and we are
by restoring peace through strength.
Last week, two American soldiers
and a civilian interpreter were killed
during an ambush attack by a lone ISIS gunman.
In a post on true social,
the president warned against attacks on the U.S.,
writing, you will be hit harder
than you have ever been hit before
if you, in any way, attack or threaten the USA.
Defense Secretary P. Hexeth said Operation Hawkeye Strike
was aimed at eliminating ISIS targets, right?
While I was pissing in the bathroom,
found out that, yes, this one that we were looking at, the grand jury from the Southern
District of New York, that is new. It was unredacted. This was one of the files I think that was
previously completely blacked out. And this is now unredacted. So we'll go into it in
a second. Let's finish this.
Today we hunted and killed our enemies, lots of them, and we will continue.
Meanwhile, President Trump was in North Carolina late Friday evening speaking
directly to Americans about his record on the economy.
It's been the most successful first year of any president.
I'm bringing the prices down and I'm bringing them down fast.
The president's campaign style event follows a prime time address from the White House
in which he sought to defend his agenda.
Some of the president's supporters who attended the event acknowledged prices are higher, but expressed optimism about the economy.
I really tried to support the president's agenda in slowing down inflation, and I think we're on the right track.
Bro, this is literally, that's it. These are some of the biggest cultists, okay?
And even the biggest cultists are like, yeah, I think we're moving in the right direction, I assume.
You know, I think I think it's on the right track. I hope it's on the right track
Understand something the very fact that people who are basically fucking lobotomized
Into believing that Donald Trump can do no wrong
Even those guys cannot
simply
Believe that the economy is doing better when their pockets are fucking hurting
Okay, it's that simple
If you're if you got these guys
These guys that are supposed to be in the pocket. Okay, these guys that are supposed to be unconditionally and uncompromisingly
Defending Donald Trump you got those guys singing a tune like this. It's fucking over dude
It's Jover brother
This is why I'm telling you like in the absence of things changing quick
Which there's no indication that it will and if things do change it'll be for the worst not for the better
specifically around the economy a
Lot of these guys who are still trying to a
Lot of these guys who are still trying to defend Donald Trump are gonna turn on them
And we have to be there to pull them back, okay?
We have to be there to pull them back to reality.
We still have a lot more work to do.
Now this weekend marks the start of President Trump's holiday stay at his Florida home, Mar-a-Lago.
Now he says he'll be doing mostly work, and that could include a possible meeting with
this really prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
Adriana?
All right.
Well, thank you so much.
West Coast Guard is currently seizing a sanctioned vessel off the coast of Venezuela. That's
according to ABC news sources. Now the second vessel.
Oh, God, here we go. But yeah, going, getting back to our, um, to our pedophile administration.
Okay. Because remember, when people are, when people are telling you like, oh man,
things are fucking surely really bad, right? This is your opportunity to ask them like,
Okay, banning transgenders from athletic competition.
Did that actually help you in any way?
Did that, you know, Israel's doing a genocide?
Pedophiles are running all over the administration.
Some of those pedophiles are linked up
with Israel too, for the record.
And your living standards have not improved.
Your infrastructure is under,
Your infrastructure isn't a dire state of disrepair.
Seemingly all the money goes to unlimited warfare, okay?
But hey, you owned the libs,
you dunked down the transgender's, right?
Did that help?
We're now deporting random neighbors of ours,
people in our communities that have done no wrong, really.
Because Trump told you that those guys
are all violent criminals.
Meanwhile, we know who the violent criminals are, right?
They're the ones who are getting redacted
in the Jaffrey Epstein files.
Are things getting better for you?
And if not, if not,
maybe it's time to seek out an alternative.
Okay?
Maybe it's time to look for an alternative vision.
It's obvious that the Trump administration
Why do you? Okay, it's that simple. And sometimes those lies are done at the best of predators
continuing to run amok.
What is this? C.I. and Massad and pedo elite are running some kind of sex trafficking and
trapment blackmail ring on a Puerto Rican on the Caribbean islands. They're going to frame me
me with a laptop planted by my ex-girlfriend who was a spy they will torture me to death.
What is this?
He died?
I mean I don't know.
I don't know about that.
Random cryptocurrency guy who could have died for other reasons you know what I mean?
related reasons could have been killed for crypto related reasons rather than finding
the truth or something.
I love that while I'm in the middle of covering these insane things that are happening with
like the financial elite, okay?
There's always still a dumbass being like, did you put a sweep of sex slaves in Berlin
in 2010?
Poc on the Cadillac.
I went to a legal brothel that still operates as a legal brothel in 2010 when it was fucking
19 years old.
The fuck are you talking about?
You think these two things are in the same vein as one another or are you trying
to stop me from talking about Jeffrey Epstein with it with an idiotic misdirection.
It kind of feels like you are not very sincere about your cause here kind of feels like you're
defending pedophiles you know.
Why are you defending pedophilia and pedophiles of the financial elite by simply inventing
a crime where no crime took place in my case.
Why are pedals and billiards defended so much?
I don't know maybe they think they'll be a super wealthy super powerful pedophile billionaires one day
The same reason why it's the same reason why people defend fucking billionaires in general
DOJ is removing searchable files. I mean, they'd never really fully made the file searchable
anyway. I don't know if that was just like broken and busted or something. I don't know.
Could have been, could have been broken due to incompetence or could have been deliberately,
deliberately created that way. Yeah, they constantly try to catch you out in some
perceive hypocrisy while they're likely supporting one of the biggest hypocrites online. No, that's
literally what it is. That's always what it is. It's a way to engage in hypocrisy fishing to go,
la, la, la, la, la, I can't hear you. I have assumed you are hypocritical in your position
and don't have a fully fleshed out worldview and therefore I don't have to listen to you.
Anyway, this is the United States
Asia course on the shooting or Jando
proceeding under a suit and implanted
the Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
This is a different lawsuit
I mean, or not relevant to this round of Epstein releases, I think, were they just unredacted?
No, I think they were unredacted.
This was unredacted.
This was previously all black.
the Southern District of New York Grand Jury indictment.
You were explaining earlier that redacted says she was approximately 14 when this began.
Did she tell you about whether she had any conversation with Epstein about her age?
Yes.
What did she tell you?
She said that she told him she was 14.
Have you asked Jane Doe what Epstein's house was like?
Yes.
How did she describe it to you?
She gave a lot of detail about the house.
about the office having a round desk in it. She talked about the massage room and had
a massage table that had lotions that had moisturizers on the walls that were sketches
or paintings of naked females on them. And she also talked about a library in his residence
to look like it was something from out of beauty and the beast. Is that how she described
it to you? Yes. So we've been talking about what you've learned during interviews
with Jane Doe. Just take a step back. How did you first establish contact with her?
My partner and I located her at the residence. What did she say to you when you first
approached her. She was very nervous when we first talked to her and she told us that she was 16.
She went and massaged Epstein and he masturbated and he didn't touch her. And again, what was her
demeanor like when she said this to you? She was very nervous. And then this entire part is redacted.
She was just very nervous while we were speaking with her. Were you able to conduct a full interview
with her at that time? No. At a later point, were you able to conduct a full and thorough
interview with her? Yes. Why she said that when you first approached her? Did you ask her
that? Yes. What did she explain to you? She told us that she didn't even really remember what
She had told us initially because she was so nervous, she was so worried,
she was really concerned that if she talked to us that she was going to jail,
so she was really worried about being in trouble.
That's so sad, dude.
Like, she's so young.
She's so young that and so, like, so destroyed that she thinks she's in trouble.
This is very common again in in minors
Like that she thinks she's doing something wrong
Did there come a point in time when Epstein asked Jane Doe to bring other girls to him?
Yes, what happened? She did she reached out the other girls that she knew to see their interest
I want to ask you a little bit about what Jane Doe's told you about her role in bringing other girls to Epstein
Let me first just ask in general how would she find new girls?
She would meet them through friends of friends. She met them in the clubs different social settings
In general, what kinds of things would she tell them about what to expect? She told them that they would
have to give a massage either with their underwear on or nude, that he would want his nipples touched,
and that he would masturbate. Would she tell them anything about payment? Yes. What would she tell
them? She'd tell them that they would get $300 for massaging him. This is why libertarians love
talking about removing the age of consent, where they'll be like, well, the non-aggression
principle has not been violated here. This is a contract.
The Jane Doe have a sense in general of the age of the girls that she brought to Epstein.
She estimated around 13, 14 year olds to 17 year olds that were mostly underage girls that
she brought.
She did bring a couple that were 18, approximately how long she participated in bringing girls,
three years that she went.
So from 14 to 17.
Approximately how old was she when this stopped, 17, during that period?
Over those three years approximately, did she have a sense about how many girls she
brought over the years to Epstein's house?
approximately about 20 to 50 girls. Does she work with anyone else and
recruiting the girls for Epstein? Yes. Who does she work with? Another girl her age
also redacted. Who is redacted? She was a friend of redacted that was living with
her at the time. Did redacted provide you with this photograph? Yes. And does she
explain what does she explain to you about this photograph? This is redacted
on the left and that's the other Jane Doe on the right. They were
approximately 16 years old the time the picture was taken and during this
time period around the time when this photograph was taken when they were
Approximately 16 is that when they were working recruiting girls for Epstein?
Yes.
So every Epstein groomed one of the 14 year olds, uh, among,
I assume many others into getting new victims of the same age range for
approximately three years from 14 to 17.
Okay.
There are slides that reference to that were released alongside this.
She would call who she believed was his or she assumed was his assailant a woman named
redacted. Why would she call? She would call redacted and say I have a girl who can work.
I this has to be Galay Maxwell, right? I guess maybe. Why would they fucking redact that?
it can't be Galein. It feels like it's definitely Galein.
She would call redacted and say I have a girl who can work and they would
schedule an appointment.
In conversations with redacted it's how they refer to these massage sessions as
work. One session was scheduled, would redacted go with the girl to the house. Yes, what would
she do in general once she brought the girl to the house? So the first time she would take
a girl, they would go to the resident state, wait in the office until they could be escorted
upstairs. The first time she would go with the girl, she would go over there so the
girl felt comfortable and kind of knew what to do. Additional visits after that, she
would wait downstairs with the girl, did the massage upstairs. Also, Ghislaine participated
in this as well for the record, according to a victim testimony. Ghislaine also
did the same stuff where she would bring girls in massage Jeff raps in alongside the
girls first and would like accompany them what accompanying slides are you sure because
this is the this is not new york this is a palm beach
I have a female for him.
She has a female friend for you.
Please call.
Back soon as soon as possible.
She will be here at 4pm, but she needs to talk to you before that.
Please call her back.
Her new phone number.
Please call her.
Trump's name is on page 10.
Oh, Donald Trump.
A memo.
But nothing else.
There's no message in there.
Wow.
He called to say how much he disagrees. Yeah, he called to shake his head. He didn't even say anything. He just shook his head.
And finger wag. That's why there's no note in the memo. He just did this.
You know?
Over time she noticed any pattern the girls at FC seemed to like she did.
What did she notice?
They liked young, petite, natural girls.
What does she mean by natural girls?
That girls were under 18, weren't completely developed.
Oh.
Did she recall any particular expressions that FC would use to express its preferences
when it was giving feedback about the girls?
I'm sorry, say that again.
In your conversations with RedEye, did she recall any particular expressions?
Yeah.
You would tell her, you know what I like.
If she brought someone he didn't like, he'd be like, come on.
You know, you know what I like.
What was our understanding of what that meant?
She understood that that meant girls who were under 18.
Did Redacted tell you how much Epstein paid for her
for recruiting other girls?
Yes.
How much? 300.
That was for each new girl
or for every new session with a new girl
when she brought her in.
That was for each new girl
and every session that she went with whatever girl.
She would schedule the sessions through Redacted
would either contact her on her phone
or she would reach out to Redacted to say she could work.
Anyway, I'm gonna scroll through this stuff.
Approximately how old was Redacted
when this photograph was taken, approximately 19.
Based on her participation in the interviews with Redacted,
have you learned where she was living,
when she was about 14 or 15?
She was living with a friend of her.
What was it in the West Palm Beach area in Florida?
Oh, was that in the West Palm Beach?
Yeah, you mentioned that she was living with a friend.
be clear she was living with her parents during that time. No, why not? She had a difficult
home life again and again. It's always the same shit. It's always the same thing. Identifying
victims with a rough home life and then having them bring in other additional victims as
well from a similar background. If you are familiar with the Epstein investigation and
the trial, you saw this as a pattern. Okay. How does she respond when she heard that she
agreed to it? Does she end up going to FC's residence? Yes. How many times should go to
the residence? Approximately 60 times. Ever go there with her friends? Yes. About in 2002
all right during these times went to Epstein's residence in Palm Beach and she explained to you what would typically happen
And then this is basically the exact same testimony that other victims gave
I have another question. I've never heard anyone seen anything mentioned any men and boy
Men victims the possible there were 1200 female victims and no one on the island ever wanted a male companion seems super strange
That is so many victims over so many years with so many abuser only female victims
Actually, I don't know. I don't really answer that but the common ones that we do know
Like the ones that we do know
Are and that's an interesting question for the record. I know that some chatters were yelling at you, but
That is strange. I think there are male victims, but the most like
The most that have come out. That's false. There's 25 male victims. Yeah, there's definitely male victims
But the ones that are, the ones that have come out and spoken out against Jeffrey Epstein like openly state that they were victims of Jeffrey Epstein have all been, like all the high profile victims have been women.
And yes, the overwhelming majority were sold her soul for 300 a person dog.
The person you're talking about was literally groomed and raped as a child.
Okay.
Like that's insane.
Why do you think we say, why do you think there's age of consent laws?
Why do you think there is a mutual understanding that people under the age of 18 cannot consent?
Because they're children, okay?
That's why the adult is the responsible party here.
That's an insane thing to do, is insane victim blaming.
That's a child that was exploited to do this stuff.
Chill, this is Alan Dershowitz's alt account, yeah.
How is that any different than saying that the 13 year old was asking for it, you know
what I mean?
Which is unironically what Alan Dershowitz did say.
Alan Dershowitz in his defense in the 2008 case quite literally mapped out a pattern
of victim blaming and slut shaming for 13 year old girls.
such an insane thing to think about now and it was fucked up even back then and yet they did it.
Isn't that crazy? That was a successful defense for Alan Dershowitz,
a tenured Harvard professor by the way. He called the 13 and 14-year-old girls
those slutty prostitutes that knew exactly what they were getting into.
Isn't that fucking crazy?
Oh.
He also had PIs followed the victims' families around.
Yes.
He even had PIs, or we don't know if this was Alan Dershowitz or not, but I remember cops on the investigation
feeling threatened that they were being surveilled by either also private investigators or potentially
members of law enforcement at the federal level.
And that type of rhetoric passed? Yes.
Chatter, that type of rhetoric not only passed, but passed with fucking flying colors.
I'm telling you Alan Dershowitz is a tenured Harvard professor who gets to go on television
all the time. Barry Weiss as recently as a month ago said, we need to see more, we need
to see more from Alan Dershowitz. Also slut shaming and victim blaming is an effective tool
that defense attorneys use even to this day for the record. I hope you understand that.
This is why, like, as hysterical as, you know, social justice wars of feminists may seem,
there is a major discrepancy in the criminal justice system in the way that people actually
analyze this kind of stuff. And there is a lot of, there is a lot of validity to the rape
culture, the rape culture statements that feminists often make, because this kind of
stuff would not work if people in the jury did not also have a similar mindset about what women's
places in society, about patriarchal constructs that exist, their understanding of power dynamics
is so distorted. All of a sudden they're not thinking about an abused 13-year-old that was
groomed, raped, but they're thinking of like how women are, you know how women are, you
know, and it works.
It shouldn't, but it does.
And it still does to this day for the record.
Anyway, obviously Alan Dershowitz is unique in this instance because not only did he mount
a successful defense for Jeffrey Epstein as client, but he also personally was alleged
to be involved with the victims himself, something that he, of course, spent most of his life
arguing against, saying things like, oh, I kept my underwear on at all times, for example.
Yeah, Alan Deuce saying they knew what they were getting into and talking about sex trafficking
is insane, especially when they're 13 or girls because even if they're grown, that's
still a crime that's using another crime as a defense for a crime that's just as
bad. Yep. Except in that case, it was successful defense attorney here victim
blaming is still using defense theories, but in fairness, it would not we're
going to travel with a lack of consent is due to age. No, I know. I don't think
think I like to think that we've evolved beyond that a little bit. But
yes, for adult rape cases, they still use it very aggressively. I mean, they
used to a fucking diddy successfully. So that's definitely still very much a thing.
Yeah, he did not like dark skinned or black girls. By the way, that's the other
thing. We are we saw that already on a separate piece of evidence. You did not
like dark skin or black girls?
Did she recall music in particular expressions?
Yes, he told her, you know what I like.
What was her understanding of what he meant?
She understood that he liked them under 18.
When Bleep went to Ebsie's house first,
and she stopped seeing that she was older
than she really was, yes.
Why did she tell him she was older?
One of the girls told her to say
that she was older than she was.
When she started recruiting girls,
did she tell them to say that they were older, yes?
Did there come a point in time
when she stopped giving girls an instruction, yes.
Why did she stop doing that? She said it didn't matter.
He didn't care how old they were as long as they weren't over 18.
Why does she think he didn't care about whether the girls were over 18 or not?
Because she said he had preferred under 18, and that's what he wanted her to bring.
Why did she think that that was what he preferred?
Because that's what he told her.
You know what I like? And she understood it to mean under 18.
Yeah, he was pretty, he was pretty open about it.
I mean, there are, there's additional evidence that we looked at yesterday where he just straight up was like,
you brought me over age girls, I can't believe I'm saying the term over age girls,
you brought me adults and not minors and he actually had an argument with one of the people
and demanded to see identification to confirm that they were under the age of 18.
How fucking insane.
Now, one could think that this is his own personal sexual proclivity, right?
Like he was really adamant about them being underage.
But there's one other aspect of this in my opinion, pure speculation, purely speculative.
Why would you be so adamant about ensuring that they are underage?
Black male.
Not just power chatters, no.
Because he did not sexually assault and engage in the act of statutory rape for 1200 people,
okay, 1200 girls.
And even then, if some are over the age of 18, why should he care all that much, right?
If rape is about power over the other person, and if rape is about coercion, and that's
what you're deriving satisfaction from, you wouldn't necessarily care if some of the
people that you are sexually assaulting are either 18 or over the age of 18.
The only reason why you would care that much is because you want to make sure that
you can maximize your leverage over others if you are going to use these people for blackmail.
Okay? If it's just about like their physical appearance, I don't think you would care that
much about whether they were over the age of 18 or not, if they looked the part, right?
If it was purely about sexual gratification as a pedophile.
or even certain instances like he wouldn't check their IDs. Someone can look underage
while not being underage. I assume that the reason why he was doing this was specifically
specifically so that if he was repeatedly using some of these girls that he was grooming for
other clients, he wanted to make sure that they were underage specifically so that he could
use that as a way to blackmail people.
You talking blackmailed the victors or his fellow perps or both?
This part is about phone messages.
Alright, switching topics.
If you've come aware, the 2005 police officer from the Palm Beach Police Department asked
you to search Warner Epstein's house at El Brillo Way.
And you reviewed some of the materials that were seized.
Did they find a massage table sex toys? Yes. Did they find phone messages? Yes
Could you please explain for the grand jury what we're looking at here
This is a room in his Palm Beach residence down here on the closed right corner. You're gonna see the message pads
Oh, this is the message pads that we were just looking at previously the ones that actually had
Here's the Palm Beach
Residents so these are the accompanying materials. Okay. These are the message pads like
She has a female for mr. Je stuff like that
And in the message pads there was just one message per page or were there four laid out on two and two on the bottom
There were four two on the top two on the bottom message pad
We're looking at in this photograph was that the only set of messages that were recovered from the residents
No, all right, so let's talk a little bit about those phone messages found in the house
So this message is dated September 30th 2004
Redacted his name is on it and then the message says she has a female for Mr.
Jeff three Epstein
So given the day on this message this message is left by redacted given her date of birth
would she have been about 16 years old when this message was left? Yes. So then they go through
all of the messages that you saw here, right? She has a female for Mr. J. E. I have a female for him.
And of course, it's like the name is also redacted here because this was most likely the other
underage girls that he was grooming to bring in other underage girls.
So the message on the bottom doesn't have a date on it.
There's a message from Trump here as well, but I guess they don't really talk about it
here, or they must have redacted Trump's name from the document.
Because it doesn't come up in this one at all in the 56 pages, even though we know for
a fact that his name is on one of the message slips. Which seemingly came at what? 5.15
a.m. or 5.15 p.m.? I assume 5.15 p.m. right? 5.15 a.m. seems strange. Oh yeah, I guess in
the convention they would just mark AM if it's AM 11 AM and then 7 p.m. 9 55 p.m.
5 15 p.m.
Let's see slide 10 maybe.
Upper so you can tell when these messages were approximately left
approximately but beyond the fact that one of them is dated and not sure
correct. Can you walk us through what we see here on the message pad? So bottom
right bleep is listed on the top right phone number is listed and it states
wondering if you want to work with her tomorrow or what time. So the message on
the bottom marked redacted doesn't have a date on it but if these messages were
left in approximately November 2004 based on redacted's date of birth
which she had been 17. So this message was dated January 13th 2005 and then
they move on from slide 10. Okay, never mind. Yeah, it's the bottom left one that had Donald
Trump on it. But they don't mention bottom left here. So
We need names of people that went to the parties.
So this grand jury indictment that was recently unsealed seemingly is more so about one element.
Amounts of money are blowing mine like has Jeffrey jetted that Epstein wise given $200 per person
Do you think it was like another power flex? Why don't just storm 10k? What?
So does that mean that Trump was one of the clients people were being procured for at that location since the others were for Epstein?
I don't know it could have been it could have been just a phone call that Trump made
This was back when they were friends or at least friendly with one another
It's very obvious that Donald Trump did leave a message. They didn't say what the message was or at least called
It's on the slip
But this is all the way back in 2002. So I don't know if this is, I don't know if Donald Trump here is, is
a, a, I mean, they were neighbors. I don't know if this implies that he was,
you know, a client of Jeffrey Epstein's at this point.
You know, because most of these phone slips, most of these message slips are from Jeffrey
Epstein's assistant telling him that the girls are coming in with one exception, and that
exception being Donald Trump.
And there's no message there at all.
Now, I don't assume that this is there's any opposite here at all.
Okay.
$300 was a lot of money back then especially for a 14 year old. That's a crazy amount of money.
Anyway, explain to you what typically happened and then well this entire indictment is about
Jeffrey Epstein's previous sexual misconduct and you know statutory rape
of minors and it makes sense to this just about that because this is a special
agent tasked with handling that sort of thing. So this is just one element that
was unsealed and doesn't actually show the full scope of the investigation.
There are different files that are still not unsealed or different files that
haven't been released or are completely redacted. Many more that should come out
similar to this one, but this is just the one angle. This is one of the many
different charges. Okay, you're kind of dragging this. Can we get back to the
booming economy. Yeah. That's the funniest part about this. Otherwise, like horrifying
story is that there's not really much that Donald Trump can lean on, you know, like that
chatter is obviously joking, but like, but like, what can Trump do? What could he even
use as an exit ramp here? Right?
What could he talk about? What could he make people pay attention to that's like much more
interesting? He has no, like he has very little confidence remaining in him from his own base.
So he's just what doing all the seizures of oil tankers, I guess, which is crazy because
this last one that was just seized is a Chinese one oil tanker sees out the coast of Venezuela
was carrying up the 2 million barrels of oil owned by a Chinese company according to a Bloomberg
report.
If he thinks that this is not going to have tremendous backlash, I don't know what we're
doing here.
Now he's not just linking up with Iranian or tankers that are supposed to be going to
Iran to be refined, but now he's going after Chinese oil tankers.
That's crazy.
US forces stop oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela as Trump follows up on promises
to seize tankers.
This just happened today.
The pre-down operation comes after Trump announced a blockade of all sanctioned
oil tankers coming in and out of South American country and follows the December 10th
seizure by American forces of an oil tanker off the Venezuelan coast.
Security Secretary Kirstie Noem confirmed that the US Coast Guard with the help from
the Defense Department stopped the oil tanker that was docked last in Venezuela.
She also posted on social media an unclassified video of a US helicopter landing personnel
on a vessel called Centuries.
A crude oil tanker flying under the flag of Panama operates under the name that was
recently spotted near the Venezuelan coast.
According to Marine Traffic, a project that tracks the movement of vessels around
the globe using publicly available data was not immediately clear if the vessel
was under US sanctions.
The United States will continue to pursue the illicit movement of sanctioned oil that is used
to fund narco-terrorism in the region.
We will find you and we will stop you.
The owner and manager of the ship were Chinese, used apprehended Chinese oil tanker.
The ship was never sanctioned.
Either clearly, this will be an international issue.
I mean, I don't know, are we, is it, is it for sure?
Why is AP not talking about it?
Maybe they're mistaking, yeah, there's no mention of Chinese or China on this.
So I don't know if Twitter is cracking the case here, let's be real.
Still no such thing as Narco-terrorism?
Oh yeah, it's bullshit.
Narco-terrorism is a bullshit response.
But I do find it, China is so fucked, they'll just make a treaty with Trump and tell them
to do it or get lost.
I don't think so.
Like there are certain, I mean, Narco-terrorism does exist, just not in this context.
Yes.
CIA does Narco Terrorism, but we're not talking about tackling the CIA are we?
Or the DEA?
We're talking about a totally irrelevant country in Narco trafficking to begin with.
We are tying in Venezuela which is not a known Narco trafficking hub into doing the crime
of narco terrorism, a made up term, footage of US troops seizing Chinese-owned oil tanker
off the coast of Venezuela.
BBC says it's unclear if it was under sanctions, so sounds like no one really knows much about
the ship yet.
How do they know that it's Chinese owned?
I don't know.
I mean, they probably looked at the manifest or something.
You can try to figure it out.
Reuters confirms that it's, okay, Reuters says it's Chinese
and it's probably Chinese.
Now, the reason why that's important is
because there's a difference between sanctioning ships.
It's still ridiculous, right?
But there's difference between sanctioning ships
that are going to Iran that are not owned
like a Chinese shipping magnet or whatever versus, um, versus attacking vessels and seizing
vessels that are owned by a Chinese business owner. All of a sudden you're now, uh, you're
not directly fucking up the back or you're not indirectly fucking up the bag for China.
You're directly fucking up the bag for China. You're directly harming Chinese assets and
Chinese interests. Normal under normal circumstances. This kind of stuff doesn't happen. Okay.
This doesn't happen at all. They won't do it to like Russia, for example, even though we are, you know,
technically engaging in a proxy war with Russia, there are certain things you don't do. As I've described before, one of the
unspoken rules of war is deconfliction, right?
So even when America and Russia are both operating over the airspace of Syria,
they will oftentimes tell one another their flight patterns ahead of time.
The reason why they do this is so that they don't actually hit one another, right?
And the reason, I mean, this is another one of those moments where like you're not,
you don't touch another major powers vessels.
China will hit Filipino boats with their coast guard and spray them with water,
but they're not going to like actually directly engage with American shipping vessels, right?
They won't do that. Because if you do that, you're kind of violating pre-established rules about
how international trade could take place. I mean, look at what happened with the Houthis, right?
Look at what happened with the Houthis. They said they're implementing a blockade, bravely,
mind you, on the Red Sea off of their own coastline. And look at the way that America responded to the Houthis.
$2 billion worth of munitions being dumped into Zana and many other targets. Now, of course,
the reason why that was how it was dealt, that's how they dealt with it, was because
the Houthis are not China. There's a difference between the way America
operates against Venezuelan vessels that they claim are sanctioned that is
going to Iran versus, you know, Chevron vessels that are coming out of Venezuela
and directly shipping Venezuelan oil into America and the American coastline
as Chevron is doing currently amidst all of this chaos. And there's certainly a
difference in the way that you handle a Chinese vessel as well, partially because
they have a lot more tools in their tool belt at their disposal to retaliate
against the United States of America.
That's why I'm a little bit confused about why people were claiming is a
Chinese vessel and I don't know how they've established that this was a
Chinese vessel. Even this Reuters article does not claim that it's a Chinese
vessel by the way. Chatters you said it is but it doesn't seem to be the case.
But as I also described look while many vessels of pre-invitab oil in
Venezuela are under sanctions of the transport of the country's oil and crude from around
of Russia have not been sanctioned and some companies, particularly US Chevron, transport
Venezuelan oil in their own authorized ships.
So I don't know.
I don't know if that's the case, but so far no one has really confirmed that even
Reuters has not confirmed that it's a Chinese vessel.
What I'm reading is that it was an unsanctioned tanker.
I don't think it's Chinese, but the Chinese bought the oil on the tanker.
Yeah.
Well, the oil from Venezuela that was going to Iran to be refined was also most likely
going to head to China anyway.
This is literally every US media article on Trump hijacking Venezuelan oil tankers only
unironically.
Yeah.
A common through line with the way that the media in America is covering this stuff.
It says that, scroll down on that article.
Oh, shit.
Trump's search campaign in Maduro has ramped up military presence in the region.
Trump is also the U.S. Land Sharks in the South American country will soon start.
Nicholas Maduro has alleged that U.S. military buildings aimed at overthrowing him
and gaining control of OPEC nations' oil resources.
Where does it say?
The darker shadow fleet is considered exposed to possible punitive measures from the US
shipping analysts have said.
For now, the oil market is well supplied and there are millions of barrels of oil on tankers
off the coast of China waiting to offload.
If the embargo stays in place for some time, then the loss of nearly a million barrels
a day of crude is likely to push oil prices higher.
China is the biggest buyer of it as well in crude, which counts roughly 4 percent
of its imports.
with shipments in December on track to average more than 600,000 barrels per day.
The officials who were speaking on the condition of anime did not say where the operation was
taken place but out of the coast guard was in the lead. Coast guard putting on refer questions to
the White House which did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Venezuela's Oil
Ministry and State Oil Company PDVSA did not immediately reply to requests for comment.
It says on Reuters, this is the Reuters article, it's just archive so I can remove the paywall
chatter.
What are you talking about?
Anyway, we'll find out whether or not this is a Chinese vessel or not very soon.
So let's-
Let's take it by the United States this month.
Let's go to ABC, senior White House correspondent Selena Wang in Palm Beach County, Florida,
where President Trump is spending the holidays.
Selena, what do we know right now?
Yeah, Ike, well as you say, this operation is currently underway as we're speaking,
the US Coast Guard seizing a sanctioned vessel off the coast of Venezuela.
According to these US officials, we don't have the exact location.
We're not getting that information quite yet, but we do note that this is in
international waters in the Caribbean Sea. Now, this is the second time in just the last
couple of weeks that the U.S. has seized a sanctioned vessel on December 10th. An elite
U.S. Coast Guard team boarded and seized another oil tanker called the Skipper
off the coast of Venezuela. You can see the footage there of that elite tactical team
they repelled on to the board of that vessel. And we're told by multiple U.S. officials
that today's interdiction is being carried out by the same kind of elite Coast Guard
tactical operations team and the big context here of course is that all of
this comes as president trump has been ramping up his pressure and his threats
against Venezuela's leadership. So Selena this is just the latest friction
between the US and Venezuela. What are we looking at moving forward? Yeah I mean
just this suit is fucking awesome. Is that the reason why chatters were
saying Hassan you would look great in a green pinstripe suit is that what it
is. This is a power suit, man. Straight up days ago, President Trump announced a blockade
of all sanctioned oil tankers going into and out of Venezuela. And that is a big deal going
after the country's oil because that is the nation's main source of revenue. And this
comes on top of the president repeatedly warning that land strikes could be coming
soon. The Pentagon has already hit some 25 alleged drug boats of the Caribbean and
Eastern Pacific, killing at least 95 people
without providing any public evidence
or identifying those killed.
In addition, the Trump administration
has been amassing this large show of force
the largest in decades in the region,
including deploying the world's largest aircraft carrier.
So all of that is leading to major questions
from lawmakers about what is the end game here?
Is it about oil?
Is it about going after drugs?
Or is it about regime change?
many questions remain unanswered. Selena Wang, thank you for your reporting. He's open nervous breakdowns and he
What is Ben Shapiro Nova, Erica Kerrigan, for it, Huachuka? Huachuka? Oh, so this is,
Kent is going absolute nutty mode on the anti-Semitism side. And obviously we're going to
continue talking about Turning Point USA, the conference that is actually turning into
an absolute disaster. But before we do that, let me wrap this up with the whole,
And yeah, I got the Dave Chappelle clips too. Don't worry
Yeah, I got the Dave Chappelle clips
And we'll cover all of that because they should all came out with a new
They should all came out with a new
Comedy special just kind of dropped it out of nowhere. We got some more turning point USA updates coming in as well
Well, um, and we got Candace Owen's doing the nuke, yeah, Jews and slave black people,
you can say sorry, you can shut the fuck up about it.
She's, she's blaming Jews for chattel slavery, which is, she's, she's not just like, she's
She's not just blaming Jews for shadow slavery. She's saying Jews were primarily responsible
for shadow slavery and not white people, okay, which is wild. She straight up openly said
it. Okay. She straight up openly was like Jews are responsible for the transatlantic
slave trade, not the whites, which is, I mean, it's expected from Candace Owens.
be real. Okay. Um, but it's still wild to hear it. The papacy is going to actually be
very excited to learn his new information. Yeah. She's been all thing pretty hard. Um,
there's also obviously like a lot of strange behavior from the conference goers at turning
point USA as well. This is like the Kansas almost stuff is like part of it. Um, but
But yeah, she's been alting, alting pretty crazy style, okay.
So we'll, we'll get to all of that.
I don't know where should I, I don't know where I should begin.
Oh, the thing I wanted to, to wrap up with the Venezuela thing is that NPR's brand
That's the notary continues a pace here.
Greg Myers informs us Trump blockading Venezuela from exporting oil isn't an act of war because
it's just partial.
Good to know that if China hijacked only half of the US's primary export it would not be
considered an act of war.
NPR like every other Washington media stenographer keeps actively the US sanctions per se making
something legal under international law or worse that they are a form of international
law.
They are not and blockading a country's trade is an act of war whether partial or not.
This is important to understand because the media does play a pretty significant role
here in the way that even NPR, which I like and defend from time to time, is playing
a formative role in manufacturing propaganda, manufacturing consent, or staving off potential
outrage.
Okay?
They are normalizing America's criminal behavior by claiming that this is a perfectly
valid, perfectly normal.
And that's how you get the liberals to be on board with the Trump administration's actions.
Or at least, when they take issue with the Trump administration's actions, they take
issue with some of the Trump administration's actions, like maybe not following the letter
of the law, for example.
They'll be like, oh, well, you're doing understandable things, like Chuck Schumer says, right?
You're doing understandable things.
It's just you're not giving us enough information.
No, it's the act alone. That should be called in the question.
I said this back when the media cycle was around signal gate, right? And everyone was like,
oh, um, why is there a journalist in a group chat? It's like, first of all, that's not the problem.
The real problem is, what the fuck are we bombing Yemen? Okay, sure. Having a journalist
in the signal group chat or even having a single group chat where you're talking about your
bombing targets is ridiculous, but perhaps there's a bigger problem here, which is that
we're bombing Yemen. Who decided that this was appropriate? Why are we bombing Yemen?
These are the questions that people should have been asking at the time, but everybody
basically still was, um, focusing on the, the signal stuff.
Okay.
Anyway, but obviously this is an escalation, but stealing oil, that's
unilaterally sanctioned by the U S is no different than stealing oil.
That isn't a country labeling something sanctioned before stealing it.
Isn't a magic designation that circumvents international law.
That's it.
You understand that, right?
And this is precisely the reason why, when the Trump administration expands on the pre-existing
permission structure by going after an unsanctioned oil vessel, the US stopped onboard a Chinese
owned oil tanker in the Caribbean on Saturday.
Several media outlets reported that the President Donald Trump ordered a blockade.
Yeah, okay.
Well, now the confirmations are coming in.
Okay?
But there is fundamentally no difference between an oil vessel that we have sanctioned in the
eyes of the international community in terms of looking at this from an international law
perspective just because we sanctioned a fucking oil vessel doesn't mean that that was appropriate,
okay?
The difference here, however, is that China does have the economic power, the power
political power and the military power to back up these sorts of threats, as opposed to a country like Venezuela, who is on the verge of being invaded by America.
Okay, so this is an act of aggression that expands on the previous acts of aggression, but this time
directs the, this time expands on the targets. Now you are directly, not indirectly, but directly harming China.
Okay?
But we shall see.
But this also, in my opinion, reveals the true nature of why Trump is doing this, which is
to forcibly dominate any country that even trades with China.
She sent in the new carrier, says Michael from Pennsylvania.
Does the Central Committee even like China?
I call his allegiance to China in the question.
Not to make a call out post here, but your words ring hollow because you are still not
in China.
You are not on the mainland.
You have not stepped foot in the mainland.
So I don't even know when you say, oh, gee, send in the new carrier.
I don't know if I believe you kind of seems like a fake fan, don't it?
You have not committed to the pilgrimage.
So the question I have for you is, are you really, you don't even know that it has
electromagnetic catapults. Don't matter. Don't matter. You're like, Oh, I read the I read
the Quran. Okay, well, I went to Hodge. Okay, that gives me way more Halal points. Goes to
China was better than going to China zero times. Just saying. Just saying 1.5 because
you brought that suit back with you dog. Hell yeah. Yeah, but you didn't go to the 21st
Marble City, Shenzhen and stayed in Pupu Capital as Hong Kong. Okay, that's fair. And you know,
you know, the issue there was, the issue there was that the, the one country, two systems failed me.
Okay. No disrespect, but Deng Xiaoping, you failed me, sir. I thought one country, two systems,
Perhaps I believed the BBC and western media when they were talking about how there is no longer a
one country two systems policy and it's all it's all one country now. That's what they kept saying.
You know, they're like, oh, they're they're deconstructing some of Hong Kong's remaining
political parties that are not sympathetic to the to the CPC, all this stuff. And I was thinking,
Oh, that means there's free unrestricted travel between the mainland and Hong Kong.
It turns out that's not the case.
It's because of how much I love China that I didn't even acknowledge. I thought one country,
one system. You know what I mean? Don't come at me.
Technology on China's latest and most capable aircraft carrier has just made it part of
a very exclusive club, with the United States the only other nation with the same capability.
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China's fish generation J35 still fighter 4 points.
It's okay, I don't mind having taken city for years for being the China stand only for
you to steal the glory I just want socialism.
Okay, let's be real.
I think I was also still taking a lot of shit for, you know, that position as well.
not to the same level as you, but, you know, it has been really interesting watching so
many people, especially with like Red Note and TikTok and all this stuff. It has been
watching a remarkable change of attitude from regular folk about how they see China. After
years and years like five years ago, five years ago when I talked about China in any way, shape
or form in like remotely positive terms, my entire chat would light up. Okay. My entire
fucking chat. And now you got every fucking white boy being like, I'm Chinese, you met
me at a very Chinese point in my life. Like, I mean, I'll take it. I do it as well. I
participate in this too. But like, it is fucking crazy how fast that change happened. And I
absolutely think that that change happened partially because of, you know, all of the
social media posting and stuff like that. But the reason why that was such a dramatic
shift is literally because is literally because of how hard the West is fallen as number
And how much they had heavily propagandized about how devastating the conditions were in China
So when people actually saw that that wasn't the case when they were like what the fuck these motherfuckers are living better than we do in these
Cities what the hell's going on?
It was like a it was like a real wake-up moment for a lot of people where they were like that's crazy
I thought they were like living in mud huds. They're like peasants living in mud huds
You know North Korean style they like shoot you if you fucking you know watch American TV or something
But that was the average person's position on China that they literally thought like, you know, China go cities
They they drive a tank over your house and kill you if you watch if you call Xi Jinping
You know if you cause you should ping a Winnie the Pooh, they just kill you
Like there's the there it was for the longest time there was
unironically a Yanmei Park style cottage industry of anti-China
anti-China speakers that got so much mileage in Western media.
China's off-power is just starting. You're watching trends.
Chinese renewable investments worldwide are solving energy development problems.
It's only going to get worse for the US. No, I agree.
Because I think ultimately it's undeniable, right?
It's just you can only hide.
You can only hide how bad things are in America, and how good things are in China for a certain amount of time.
But in the age of the internet, you can't just keep saying these are tofu houses, tofu-dreg houses, tofu-dreg houses over and over again.
you know
This is not gonna happen
And it low-key always goes back to what america is doing too like
With the Uyghurs and shinjohn something that i've criticized openly a million times over right like the the broad
dragnets and the mass sweeps that took place, the reeducation, all this stuff was like completely
unacceptable. And it was, it was riddled with human rights abuses. Make no mistake. This
is true. Now obviously part of that is because they saw the radicalized luggers as like
a separatist movement partially, partially defended and propped up by, you know, American
state intelligence, things of that nature. Many of them are still in Syria, right? These
are all things that are, like you can, you can look at that and you can criticize it
as I have many times over, right? Um, but when you look at like the Chinese war on terror
policy and then you compare it to the American or Israeli, which is American by a different
name war on terror policy and you're like, okay, well that's, you know, that's
fucked up and I agree, I agree that it's fucked up. But like America is not a country that
is allowed to have any say here, given our track record, you know, I criticize America,
I criticize China on the way that they dealt with both of these different instances. But
one thing that I always fucking mention, and I don't do the whole like everything
is made up by Adrian Zence. Obviously there's propaganda there, like organ harvesting, things
of that nature, but that doesn't mean that there weren't actual dragnets and mass surveillance
that was taking place, okay? Calm down.
Having said that, the thing that I always bring up is if the separatist Uighur apprehension
policies were the ways in which and the and the Xinjiang policy that China
implemented was implemented by Israel today in both the West Bank and in Gaza
every single Western superpower would be fighting one another to be the first to
suck Benjamin and Yahoes cock okay they'd be like oh my god you are
literally the most peaceful person on the planet how did you get how did you
do the most peaceful thing that anyone has ever done? They would be fighting one
another with weapons to be the first to suck Benjamin Netanyahu's penis. They
would never give a Nobel Peace Prize to another fucking global leader ever for
the rest of time. They'd be like every year we're gonna give it to Benjamin
Netanyahu because he dealt with this in the most peaceful ways possible.
Do you understand?
It's fucking insane.
Top G lost his fight. He's bottom G now. No shot. No.
Top G got topped. Andretate is a fraud. He has just officially lost a Chase DeMour who fights like a girl.
It's official Top G is now bottom G. Chase DeMour just ended Andretate's career. The Top G has been exposed.
No.
no no another fucking W for woke dude I don't know anything about chase the more
and rotate when it isn't about women or India oh my god they're cooking his ass
already what the fuck this just happened
What I don't understand is how this fight was even allowed, like we know that he does steroids
now.
He got beaten by bisexual gloves.
Chase is awful, he's way worse than like Jake Paul for instance.
You know what's really funny?
It's just because Andretate is so awful that it's quite difficult for the person
that he's fighting to be more awful than he is.
one of those it's like the pedophile hunters right it's like those pedophile hunters like
they're all fucking dipshits right but the guy that they're like tackling is you know
in certain instances and out and about actual pedophile so it's kind of like you know you
take what you can get in that situation the fight was a rumble event basically an
Adam Ross tear event I mean that makes sense I doubt that there was an actual
This guy was a fucking kickbox and look at how tiny his legs are Jesus Christ. That's like shocking
A shot like that absolutely not it's too easy to see and you know injured jade simply fatigue
And he wasn't able to get out of the web and too much weight beautiful shot by chase around the chase more clearly dominated in round five
Cavs are genetic brother. I'm looking at his quads not as cats. You think I don't know
What to look at for for leg density
You're injured freaky, uh
I mean kickboxers and he was a kickboxer back in the day, and he actually did fight quite a bit
But kickboxers are usually have pretty solid lower body strength. I mean, it's in the fucking name, right?
So it's
He wasn't a good kickboxer dude, I mean he was fine he wasn't like
he wasn't like a crazy good or anything but
oh my god and he lost to this guy tough look
yeah listen Josh is there he's trying but you this one might get waved off
right now guys yeah it's a fucking spat out his mouth guard
Only that fucking didn't slide off of him.
Look, look at that.
Oh, damn.
I'm pillow punches, dog.
This is literally the fucking fifth round.
You know how, ugh.
I mean, these aren't like professional fighters, dude.
You know how fucking tough it is to be, you know,
out there for three whole minutes?
Of course you're gonna be gassed by the fifth round.
Yeah, entertain finding out beating fighters is all size isn't as easy as beating traffic
Eastern European women. Oh no. Woke is so back boys. Round two for woke 2.0. Ding ding
ding. That's woke, that's woke 2.0 dude. Actually I don't fucking know anything about
this other guy. So
And you take post fight and miss this boxing, it's better to try and lose than not try at
all. I mean, true. Yeah. And 10 years out, 40 years old gave him my all, but he's tough.
I don't know what to say. He's really tough. Congratulations to you think we'll be able
to see you in here again. Oh, yeah, I'm going to have to go back, watch the fight
make a decision, but, cheers to those this way, and I'm really happy for him.
Do you have a message to all the fans back home that are watching you?
Um, it's better to try and lose than not try at all.
How the fuck did he even get out of jail, brother?
There was an entire New York Times investigation into this that we covered on the broadcast.
The Trump administration directly pushed the, the Romanian authorities to allow him
to leave the country.
Barron Trump, maybe not after today, but prior to this day, was a huge Andrew Tate fan.
What a fucking day, dude.
What a day for anti-Wolx.
What a day for the anti-Wolx.
I mean, here's the other anti-Wolx.
So they wired it up a couple hours a day.
Three in the morning.
I can't sleep.
My jaw's busted.
They wired it up a couple hours ago.
It hurts every time I move my mouth.
I lost tonight.
I still is this AI, right? It's not real, right?
No, this is not real. The laws feels like I let everyone down. I'm not a break. This is AI
There's no way this is real. No, I don't fucking believe the Jake Paul would
No, it's fucking AI dude
He did actually break his jaw in two different areas, that's not a joke
The reason why I think his AI is because
There's no way he could talk like this, right? He just got a double jaw surgery.
Am I tripping or did Andrew Tate just kiss him?
Oh my god, it's true he did.
Yeah, AJ broke Jake Paul's jaw in two different places.
I don't know what to do with it.
I don't know what to do with it.
Anti-Woke Crusaders.
Having a tough go.
There's no way that Jake fucking Paul would allow himself to look this pathetic on camera
willingly.
is yeah you the same size of AJ he's an
athlete though brother no I'm not he is
six foot six 245 pounds and he's like
10% body fat I am six foot four 245
pounds and 30% body fat no you're out
of your fucking mind I wish I wish
Anthony Joshua is fucking ginormous 30% no shot I mean I'm exaggerating but like you
get the point.
I like that people are saying yeah you're 30% no I'm fucking exaggerating chat.
Even if you didn't sit all day long, I mean, there's not really much I can do currently,
so.
What every body fat percentage looks like.
What are your body fat percentage?
Take a guess.
I'm going to guess 21, 17, 15.
Most people don't know their body fat percentage.
Some people think they're way leaner than they are.
Ooh.
That was a little harder than I thought.
Others are harder on themselves than they should be and find out their closer to
their goals than they realize.
Hell yeah.
if you look up what different body fat percentages look like online, you won't find much help because
if the numbers aren't completely made up, they're taken from less accurate measurements,
like calibers or handheld devices. And that confusion matters because your body fat percentage
not only shapes how you look, it can also impact your health, sleep, performance,
and how you feel about yourself. So in this video, I'm going to take you through the full
range from 50% body fat all the way down to 5% using real life people that I measured myself.
That's my body representation.
That's 50%.
We'll also hear about what it feels like to live at each level.
Also show you where the average male and female ends.
So as we go, try to figure out where you fall and where you'd like to be depending on your
own goals.
Yeah, I'm half fat.
Whether that's strength, health, or physique.
This is Joe.
He's a 36-year-old dad, and before I show you his exact body fat percentage, this
is what his life is like day to day.
I had low testosterone.
My free testosterone was like 90, like 90.
It's kind of like made sense of like my lack of motivation, my lack of ambition.
On bioelectrical impedance or BIA Joe came in at 50.7% body fat.
She's, she was 45.3%.
So your body fat percentage was 45 is me for real, bro.
Me and Joe like this.
Okay.
Point three.
No way.
That's lowering me back.
That's actually, yeah, I mean it's cat, but he said he wants to get
25% by the end of the year and I'm going to help keep them accountable with that.
You need to be 100 kilos. So that's about 220 pounds. If you want some accountability,
we're here. We can get you back in in a year from now and see where you're at. Okay. And this
is Alexis. She's a 19 year old university student and she said that day to day, she feels pretty
good. What's her? Notice how 50% body fat in a woman is very different than 50% body fat in a man.
This is important to understand women have higher body fat percentages on average. It's normal
It is supposed to be higher as a matter of fact, and I'm sure it's a fact that Jeff is also going to reflect on in a little bit very different
For example like the unhealthy
Body fat percentage is sub 10 for men
And everybody is different some people can actually stay under 10% without any significant health complications
But like in general I'm using averages here whereas for women. I believe it's like around
What is it like 20? Sub 20? No, not sub 20. Maybe like, yeah, sub 20 I think.
Energy like in the gym, like do you feel good?
Um, and the gym, honestly, yeah, I love going to the gym.
Alexis measured at 47.2% on BIA and 48.2% on DEXA.
And she told me that while she feels fine and doesn't struggle much in terms of day-to-day activities,
for her long-term health, she does want to get down to a lower but still sustainable body fat.
Nobody fuck with Joe. No, I'm Joe. Do what do you mean me and Joe are the same percentage?
I want to go back to where I was like comfortable and confident like every single day leaving house
I spent my first year at university and it was not a good time. I was eating a lot
I feel like I've my body has changed so much over the last year like I almost don't recognize myself
That's probably the like toughest thing. Hmm not everyone at this level had the same goal though
This is Daniel and he had one of the coolest motivations for losing weight that I've ever heard
Oh, it's a skydive.
You want a skydive?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a new one.
OK, that's a new one.
I had not heard that before.
The weight limit for skydiving is 220 to 240 pounds.
So over the next year, I'm going to help them get there.
Let's give you like a year and two or three months.
All right?
You're going to come back here, get on the dex of scan,
and then you're going to book your skydiving, all right?
I'm not doing it with you, though.
Lamar, your fat ass can never skydive.
Sorry, true.
I'm scared of heights. I'm scared of heights. I will film you though.
For long-term weight loss, I think having a purpose that speaks to you is crucial,
especially if you want to lose a lot of weight, which can feel overwhelming.
You need to have a good reason for why-
What happened to the news? We're taking a quick break, man.
We'll get back to Candice Owens and Turning Point USA in a little bit.
Fucking let me- let me live, man. It's Saturday. I just interviewed a fucking congressperson.
You want to do it?
What is, what is him fueling this for me?
Like I've got two children.
Like I've got a five year old, eight year old, my boy's five.
And like his sole purpose is to like be me up straight up.
He wants to be stronger than me.
But you just can't let him do that. Exactly.
For as long as possible.
Don't like that.
Just beat up your son. Yeah.
And because weight loss often takes longer than people realize
a lot of people do struggle with staying motivated.
A lot of people want to find motivation.
The thing is like it comes and goes right like he to be able to run on that is to get the habit set up
So it's just like brushing your teeth right like it becomes something you do you build that trust in yourself over time
Yeah, you're gonna actually execute on those habits while speaking with people at this level
I realize that even simple day-to-day activities can be a struggle
I'm always tired like I'm not like I want to sleep all day, but I'm always to keep
Hmm. This is the heaviest I've ever been to that could be literally because you got a
a massive weight vest on at any point throughout your day or also because of the unhealthy dietary
choices that you've made that is probably also contributing to the fatigue.
It always feels like a battle, like a loose weight.
We also be sleep apnea at that point as well.
Depression, sleep apnea, these are all things that I have, not sleep apnea, but like these
are all things that I have experienced personally at that level of body fat percentage, which
I certainly was that by the way. I was joking when I say I'm at that point now, but like I definitely was at that
To put on your shoes is like a no-test
I never really hear so much about
My appearance just about maybe I wasn't at 50% body fat, but like close enough the things I can do if I was
Not as big and what I found most interesting was that they assumed that if they could just get down to the leanest level
like single-digits body fat, their exhaustion, energy crashes and trouble sleeping.
Nope. If you get the single-digit body fat, especially if you are, if your body is comfortable
at this level of body fat, whoo, oh brother. I think like a healthy way to get down to that
level of body fat is going to take years and you're going to have to take many pauses along
the way so your body readjusts to like being at that level of body fat percentage. If you don't
actually, if you just like burn burn burn burn burn all the way down to that point, you will yoyo
back. Okay. For sure. That means you're probably not doing in a healthy way. And also regardless,
unless you are already like a super skinny guy always and you've literally grown up having,
you know close to single-digit body fat for some weird genetic reason
you're never going to be comfortable in a single-digit body fat percentage
most people are not comfortable a single-digit body fat percentage at all
because most people are never at a single-digit body fat percentage
would all go away i'm pretty sure i'm feeling a lot better like this right but interestingly
as we'll see if you go too far in the other direction these exact same issues come back
around again. In fact, if you get super low T depression, feeling like shit all the time.
And honestly, if you were a guy who was at 50% body fat, by the time you get to 15% body
fat, you'll probably still experience that. And not even like sub 10, you will be fucking
exhausted. If you're used to, if you're like, I, as someone who's gone through this,
Okay.
I was a super fucking obese, right?
I was 320 pounds and then I went, uh, over the years, uh, lost all this weight
and got all the way down to 220 pounds.
And at that point when I was at 220 pounds, um, that's a hundred pounds of,
of weight loss while still like, you know, putting on muscle mass and all
this stuff, it took like a year plus to get there by the time I got there,
I was at around 15, maybe 13% body fat.
And I was feeling like absolute fucking death
Okay, yeah, isn't 20 25% body fat the optimal range for for women
I mean, it's fine for men to 20 25% is fine
Maybe maybe above 20 is for men a
Little bit like you're getting everyone's different. Everyone's different. Everyone's different
I mean, it can get really bad.
I know my body is hard and I just can't get to sleep and when you're that lean, it's like
the wind blows and you're not being able to sleep and a little later, I'll show you
how bad things can get at the very meanest level because unfortunately, an incident occurred
between two subjects after filming that might have had something to do with mood changes
that can come with extreme levels of leanness.
Okay, well are we going to have a problem then?
Before we see what 40% looks like, I want you to take a guess at what body fat percentage
the average man is and what body fat percentage the average woman is in the United States.
No cheating by skipping ahead.
I'll show you that a little later.
So walk your guesses in.
What body fat percentage the average man and the average woman in the US.
Okay.
This is Hamanish and he measured in at 40.7% body fat on DIA and 37.2% on DEXA.
And keep in mind, these numbers are very accurate.
is often considered the reference standard for body composition in exercise science
research and in clinical practice. It's very precise. And a 2020 review suggested that
DEXA and MRI are actually comparably accurate for measuring body fat. And when combined
with BIA, what I'm going to show you has tighter control and higher precision than
most published exercise science studies. And it's going to be way more reliable
than the online body fat charts that are out there, which use way less accurate
tools, and sometimes sure eyeballing, which can be way off, especially if there are differences
in lighting.
In this video, I'm going to show you exactly what each level looks like under the exact
same lighting.
Okay, so compared to 50%, you can see that at 40%, the waistline is down, the overall
physique is leaner, but overall, body fat distribution is still similar.
And this is Katie.
She's a nurse who just became a personal trainer herself, and she measured in at
37.6% on DEXA in 40.3% on BIA.
40% body fat on women can look very different from person to person, depending on how much muscle they have in their individual body shape.
And if we compare a male at 40% to a female at 40%, you can see that the female looks relatively leaner.
That's because women store about 10 to 12% more essential fat than men,
so 40% on a woman is visually more like 28 to 30% on a man.
Men also tend to store more body fat around their stomach, lower back and neck.
All of them intend to store more body fat around their hips and thighs
This is in part because estrogen promotes fat storage in the lower body while testosterone promotes more visceral fat storage
Around the organs and midsection. That's a trend that'll continue for the record. That is like the visceral fat is also
Even more damaging is a more damaging type of fat too or not visceral fat
Sorry, the the that fat that is like in your organs like around your organs is the most
the most dangerous type, right?
That's not visceral, right?
That's like, you know how some dads, that's visceral?
Okay.
You know how some dads have like the tightest belly
where it almost feels like it's a fucking,
like the dad fat, when you got a dad
who's like belly is just fucking protruding?
And and it's hard to the touch, but it's like, but it's very clearly it's it, you know, it's
fat your round your rotund.
That type of fat is the that type of as the worst one.
It literally rounds out.
I had it like three years ago.
belly type is visceral fast super bad at every body fat level at 40% how you feel day to day
varies a lot from person to person too katie said that overall she feels pretty good has high energy
and her strength how do you differentiate between i have so fat on me but this is my body and i need
to lose weight this bad i don't know how you feel chatter and not how you feel because people
are calling you like a fat ass or something i mean like literally how you feel do you feel good
do you feel healthy? Do you feel happy? Do you feel depressed? Do you have a hard time going upstairs?
Do you have a hard time standing up? Do you feel lethargic? Are you often sedentary?
You know, that sort of stuff.
They're solid. While Matthew, who came in at 43.8%, said that he does struggle with sleeping and
even some simple tasks like putting on his shoes.
A lot of the shit that these guys are talking about, if you see yourself in them,
that could be an indication that you're, you know, you might need to lose a little bit of weight.
It can be difficult.
I definitely feel it with like, with sleep and stuff like that. I haven't been diagnosed with it,
but like, I know why I sleep at the moment. If I fall asleep on my back, I'm gonna work
myself up talking, being conscious of what shoes I wear. If I'm going somewhere where I might
might have to take my shoes off sometimes it's difficult to just like
probably shoes on because I'm heavier at 40% body fat men typically have a higher
risk of cardiovascular disease and metabolic issues but for women the
risk isn't as elevated in both cases though
eating a healthy diet can do a lot more than you'd think even if weight loss
isn't occurring right away research shows that exercise can still
significantly improve your health strength and mental well-being and
If earlier you guessed that the average body fat percentage for an American woman is around 40%, you'd be pretty much right.
Based on 2017 to 2018 NHANES data, the average American woman is about 39% body fat.
Okay, now we're down to 30% body fat.
Thanks, man.
And this is where things really started to change.
This is Sceptarishi, and he was 30.1% on BIA, and 33.3% on DEXA.
Your total body fat percentage is 33%.
Okay.
Alright, but keep in mind 30% can look quite different depending on your structure and how much muscle you have
Yeah, bro
in a 33.3% and Greg measured in at 32.5% on the Dexa, so almost exactly the same
But Satoshi had 97 pounds of lean mass and Greg had a hundred and fifty pounds of lean mass at this level
Yeah, but he's almost all you carry can have a big impact on how you look guys are the same body factors
She had very different reactions. I feel like you were really disappointed and you were not
30% is what some people would call the dad-bob look.
Assuming you lift weights, you should see some visible muscle outline in your arms and legs,
but you're not quite lean enough to see a whole lot of detail or separation.
But assuming you sleep well, eat healthy, and exercise, your energy levels should be
pretty solid, and your performance in the gym should be good too.
I almost like the way I look a little bit with the fat on.
Yeah, hey.
It gives me the size, right?
I actually like that one too.
But if you don't have those healthy lifestyle habits, 30% can definitely-
That's a real dab on.
We feel uncomfortable and for men 30% is still
And if earlier you guys that average American male was 30%
You'd be pretty close based on 2017 to 2018 data the average American male is about
27% body fat
So if you're a man with 30% body fat you'd land right here about 40% of men have a body fat percentage higher than you
And about 60% of men have a body fat percentage at or below you
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Okay, so this is what 30% body fat looks like on a male and this is what 30% body fat looks like on a female
This is Brecken and she measured at 28.4% body fat on Dexa and 28.2% body fat on BIA
So just a little under 30% according to the American College of Sports Medicine
This is a healthy and sustainable body composition for a lot of women your body fat percentage
28.0 it's crazy like
30% body fat on a woman is like outline of abs like straight up. You know what I mean like you are in
great shape
Yeah, so you're you're obviously squarely within the healthy range of course once again once again
remember very different between women and men but also very different between women and women and men
and men as well it's all about what your where your body stores your fat okay very different or
or how your muscles look as you count for female essential fat very difficult to discern your energy
levels of performance in the gym can be great i feel i wake up with a lot of energy so she
compared to my partner who I live with.
And 30% on a woman is leaner than most people realize.
I just feel like we hear 15 times,
like we hear such low numbers all the time.
I think someone would look at you and be like,
oh, you look amazing.
But they wouldn't think like 28%.
The pictures on Google too, they're so different.
It shows 30% and I'm like, that is not anything.
I agree, exactly.
That's why I want to do this,
to give people like an updated standard.
In the USA, if you're 30% body fat as a female,
Suddenly, only about 10% of women are leaner than you,
and about 90% of women have a higher body fat.
All right, we're just past the halfway point
in our journey from 50% all the way down to 5% body fat.
And here, at 20%, we're really starting to lean out.
Based on my time on the internet,
most people seem to think that a male at 20% body fat
looks something like this,
but it actually looks like this.
This is Jay, and he came in at 20.8% body fat on DEXA,
in 18.6% on BIA.
So yeah, really close to 20%.
And you'll notice once again,
that even at the same body fat percentage,
you're looking very quite a bit
depending on your bone structure and muscle mass.
Nicholas came in at 19% on DEXA,
but because he's shorter and carries more muscle,
his 20% looks quite a bit different from Jay's 20%.
And I'm shorter than both of them,
and 20% on me looked like this.
Last year I bulked up to 20.6% body fat,
and this was my fizzy.
You see, just because you're 20% doesn't mean you're going to look or feel like someone else at 20%.
We all have different genetic set ranges where our bodies are most comfortable.
20% body fat for me actually feels too high.
I felt sluggish and bloated.
For me, my body's a lot more comfortable.
Getting this is your arm above 20, I'm probably like 25 right now.
I'm fast, Chad.
That comfort and set range is highly genetic and it's a little different for everyone.
For some men, it's a bit higher.
My at my like when I was constantly shirtless
In the in all the fancams and shit. I was like around 15 percent
16 percent body fat
But now I'm probably like 25
Let's say 20 to 25 body dysmorphia. I'm stupid. They try to get below 20 percent
They start to feel hungry depleted and low energy in that case
I think maintaining a slightly higher level at around 20 percent is actually smart
So you avoid constant yo-yo dieting assuming you lift weights at 20% body fat your arms and shoulders will have some noticeable definition and
Under a good lighting you should even see the outline of your abs when you flex them for men research shows that this can be a
Sustainable and healthy body composition to maintain for most people energy levels and performance in the gym should be really solid
And if you're 20% body fat, you're probably leaner than you think only about 12% of men are leaner than this in the US
So if you get to 20% body fat, you're actually in a very small group and for women
This is what 20% body fat looks like. This is Christina
Who's been training consistently for over 10 years and she measured at 21.4% on Dexa
75% 50% will I be a god at 20? You cannot see your abs and 50% body fat chatter the fuck are you talking about?
That's like literally impossible unless
You just you're like built like a one-piece character and you build you store all the fat in your cheeks or something
both your ass cheeks and your face cheeks.
In .5% on BIA.
Here you can definitely see visible muscle shape and more definition through the midsection.
For some, this level of body fat will be lower than where your body is comfortable.
For others, this can be healthy and sustainable.
You are a hot, heat-tune and free percent body fat, but given that 20% is where a lot
of pro-female athletes sit, I was a little surprised to see that some women still
thought 20% was a bit too high.
That's crazy.
I want to look like, oh my god, like, she's Jack.
Yes, you do.
You actually do.
I don't even know that anymore.
Remember, 20% on a female is closer to 10% on a male.
And here's the-
Could you please turn out the pseudoscience
and put one of those videos
about the no-nup benefits timelines, please?
Oh, shit, you're right.
Why are we listening to fucking Jeff
science-based lifter nippered here?
We should be listening to the fucking based alpha chads
to levitate after their eighth month of not jerking off.
The thing, if you're a woman,
you have 20% body fat in the US,
less than 1% of the female population is leaner than you.
Actually, only about 2% of women in the United States
have a body fat percentage under 25.
So unless you're genetically very lean
or you wanna maintain a certain level of leanness
for your sport,
this is about as lean as most women
can realistically sustain and hold
while still feeling healthy and performing optimally.
All right, next stop.
Now we're down to 15% body fat.
And this is where things get interesting.
This is my friend, Shamar, who's lost 25 pounds
since the last time I saw him.
And he came in at 15.3% on DEXA, 15.4% on BIA.
At this level, it's a clear muscle separation,
even some vascularity,
especially in the biceps and forearms.
Your abs will be clearly visible,
even under average lighting,
but I still wouldn't call this extremeliness.
I actually think most men should be able to maintain this level of leanness year-round
as long as you train hard and you pay attention to your diet.
It'll take some discipline, but it's realistic.
That said, if you have a genetically high...
Is Hector awesome to reach that level that's crazy?
Higher body fat set range, you may notice hunger creeping in at around this level.
So if you're trying to maintain 15% body fat, you will need to pay attention to
your food environment.
There are a lot of processed, delicious foods around the house.
You'll probably quickly snack your way up to 20%.
Their gym performance and strength should be really good at this level and most people
shouldn't have to suffer too much to get there.
But you might be surprised if you're coming from a higher level of body fat, getting 15%
might take some serious dedication.
Yes, 100% for someone like myself because my body is so much more comfortable staying
at staying at, you know, 20 plus percent body fat. Getting down to 50 percent body fat is
incredibly difficult. I just ate a bunch of ice cream last night. Thanks for showing us
this. You got it. It does require a serious dedication for sure. And getting rid of the
treats that you have all around your house or in my case, what I have been able to
to do or what I used to be able to do, not when my fucking family is around, is substitute
the treats for healthier alternatives that don't taste as good, but once you get used
to it, it's much easier to just like put aside.
15.6, 15.6 now, okay, I'm all right now. The Dex is the ego killer. Yeah, I'm doing
more than the average bear to be low body fat. So let me ask you, are you happy with
your physique? Just overall, yeah, a little progress in your performance. Yeah, I feel
fine. Well, then, sorry. Yeah, still, if you have more muscle mass and you're genetically
You might be able to cruise down to 15% to be fair. It also requires dedication to maintain a 40% body fat to not for me
I could do 40% easy. I wouldn't even have to think about it
Dude as a matter of fact if I stop thinking about it, I get the 40% without much struggle at all
I feel way better. Yeah, that's some point. I was down. Yeah, I'm 35. Yeah, I'm too much better
Yeah, he's better. Here's what I think. Yeah, I think it's because you're taking your time. Yeah, the crash style
You're still training super hard. Yeah, and you have a lot of muscle
You know what, so when you get rid of the fat surrounding you, you actually look bigger.
You look bigger, dude, like bigger, you look wispy, you look bigger, you look bigger, yeah, that happens.
Regardless, 15% is leaner than you think.
Only about 2% of American men are below this level of body fat.
And for women, 15% looks like this.
Meet Vanessa.
Yes.
She's currently training for a high-rocks competition, which is a hybrid event that combines running and various exercise stations.
And she came in at 15.7%.
Remember though at that point like she's 411 at 15% she is super duper lean
This would be a very uncomfortable level of leanness for most women
But I suspect that like
Given how physically fit she is
Like this is not even borderline unhealthy for many women this would be unhealthy, but
The reality is like I said for everybody is different
every person's, every person's body is totally different. Okay? So she probably
is naturally a very slim person, a very skinny person, and this is her with like
muscle mass put on. Like it's not, this is not a normal, this is not even
Then remotely a normal or even, dare I say, healthy body fat percentage for women unless
they're unique at this point.
And also this looks very different, 15% looks very different on women.
Women have a lot more variability with the way that they look at the same exact body
fat percentage than even men do.
You might have noticed that as well.
And that's literally because of the way that people store fat.
have different places that they store fat than men do as Jeff also brought up and that
is a big part of the reason why two different women at 15% will look dramatically different.
Send body fat on DEXA, 14.8% on BIA and like I said, since women need about 10 to 12% body
fat just for basic survival needs, this level ofliness is typically only seen in serious
athletes preparing for a specific event.
For a lot of women, this is where things can start to take a negative turn, especially
if you're sustaining this level of leanness for a long period of time.
Your hunger hormones can increase, energy can drop off, you may lose your menstrual cycle.
Staying this leanness for years can also cause bone mineral loss and gut issues.
How's your formable?
It's sensitive.
I don't want to put extra stress on my system.
Otherwise my period will get kind of wonky or my sleep will get kind of messed up.
That said, there definitely is a fraction of women who seem to do fine at this
level without any major issues.
still for most women, 15% will be low and sitting closer to 20% is going to feel healthier
and more sustainable for long term health. And I don't know, I think this is cool. Two
of these people are the exact same body fat percentage, which goes to show that just
because you have the same number as someone else, doesn't necessarily mean you're going
to look like them. I saw a YouTube personality, the weight that she was aiming for said
that was sustainable for her was way too light compared to me. But because we were
the same height and kind of similar goals, I pointed to her and was like, that's what
I should do.
But it wasn't sustainable or safe for me to do that.
Even if you're the same height, weight and body fat percentage, you can still have drastically
different metabolisms from someone else.
So it's like everyone truly is their own unique person and you have to figure out
what goal makes most sense for you.
And what's most sustainable.
Exactly.
At this point we've gone from 50% body fat all the way down to 12%.
This is Jimmy, and he came in at 12.1% on Dexa, 13.8% on BIA.
And as you can see-
Bro's got titties on him bro, Jesus Christ Jimmy.
This is a very, very fit look.
At this level, most men will have a fully defined six pack with just a little fat
covering the lower abdominals and a little fat left on the lower back.
But at 12%-
The fucking abdominal fat and the muffin top is like
It's just
Impossible to deal with it's fucking sucks and you should be lean enough to see some visible striations
Especially when you flex on her good lighting. I want people to appreciate like this is a true 12 also a scene above being short
Like I am is just basically steroids. Yes
if you are below 5 foot 10 you literally walk into the gym and
and sneeze in the direction of a weight and you will instantly put on muscle
listen this is this is the one area this is the one fucking area where short kings absolutely have
us uh us talls beat okay
it's fucking insane i don't know what it is you go to the gym you're like five seven
you go to the gym you just touch a weight and you get brolic percent physique the most
Most men, your performance will still be solid in the gym, but to be honest, most men won't
be able to maintain this level ofliness without some serious discipline.
You'll most likely need to track your calories or follow you.
I was talking about men.
I don't know about women.
I don't know how to work with women.
Most men will just stay here without some active dietary restriction.
Some men will be able to maintain 12% no problem.
But for most men, this is about as low as you can go without feeling-
5'10 isn't short.
No, that's why I said sub 5'10.
Okay?
No, it's not.
5'9 isn't short either.
5'8 isn't short either but 5'7 you're starting to near the short king territory a little bit
like you're constantly dying 12% body fat is much cleaner than people realize in fact a recent
data report of over 9,000 american men revealed just how many people are actually below 12%
body fat how many out of the 9,000 do you think we're under i'm a five foot chud is it over
no dude what the fuck your height and your weight and the way you look can
cause hurdles but they're not hurdles you can't climb okay there's no such thing
it's only as big as a problem as you make it for yourself that's it
This is something that I have consistently talked about, and it pisses people off.
For 12% body fat.
200.
Maybe 500.
500?
500.
9,400 people.
One person.
What?
One?
One person.
Oh my goodness.
Crazy.
So it goes to show, like, how lean that really is when you compare it to the general
population, right?
For women, 12% is virtually unheard of outside of bodybuilding stages.
At this level, you're just about down to only having essential body fat left.
Performance in enhancing drugs are often needed to get this lean and...
Yeah bro, at that point it's like... you get...
What's up? Hello?
What's going on?
Okay.
Even then, strengthen energy in the gym will almost always take a hit.
Chances are, you'll be constantly thinking about food.
Just ask Alicia here.
I crave a lot of chocolate.
I'm a lot of chocolate.
Like, I thought I was buying like a small bag of like chocolate chips,
but then I ordered like a really large bag.
Okay.
And I, like craving them and I was just like,
scan full and like ate them.
And I'm like, I don't even know why I could take it.
And you are, you are like me.
That has literally been-
I was gonna say, this is like,
the level of body fat that you're at here is like,
fucking skipping a meal is gonna be life altering.
Okay?
like there are there are a different body fat percentage is like like at
competition level competition level like you you you skip a couple meals you
might fucking die and me the last week with literally with chocolate chips
she's a pro bodybuilder hoping to get back on stage soon when she came in at
12.2% body fat on Dexa 14.7 on BIA I'm just kind of like go go go all day
But then when I get home and I'm finally like yeah, then I'm like, oh my god
I'm hungry to eat the world like yeah, I want to eat everything
Okay on our journey from 50%
We've got a couple levels of leanness left to go and it gets pretty intense for men at around 10% body fat
I've got three different examples Nicholas came in at 10.5%
I'll eat at 9.0 and my latest Dexa also came back at 9.0 percent body fat at this level
your abs will be clearly defined, and you should have visible separation in all the heads of any
given muscle. In all three of us, you can see a clear outline of the different heads of the triceps
and noticeable striations through our chest and shoulders. At 9 or 10%, your midsection will be
pretty ripped, and there shouldn't be any noticeable pouches of fat anywhere on your back or legs.
Here I am at 9%, and you can see clear separation between all the heads of my quads and
feathering in my back and hamstrings. 9% is bari lean. I was even surprised that
Olly clocked in at 9% because his arms looked so shredded and vascular,
I honestly expected him to be closer to 7 or 8%.
But that's the thing, 9 to 10% is leaner than people think.
The fitness community has said for years that 10 to 12, 10, 10 is the healthy,
not too lean, sweet spot that men should aim for.
You can get all the definition that you want and still have performance capabilities
without sacrificing quality of your life.
But I'm not sure that's true.
Getting down to or just below 10% body fat usually requires a lot more sacrifice than many people
are willing to make. And for the vast majority of men, 10% probably simply won't be sustainable
without some serious dietary restriction and highly disciplined training. I do this as a career.
I think I'm genetically leaner than most people, and getting to 10% was harder than I expected.
But genetics are huge and some people can maintain 10% body fat without any major issues,
for sure. How do you feel day to day? Oh, great. Honestly. Now, this is, this is probably my,
like, like, my default. Really, the fact that you are performing while you're feeling good,
your energy is good at that percentage. Okay, this is a good, healthy percentage for you, right?
This is the power of genetics, but that's the thing. I think most guys who actually do get to
or just below 10% are usually genetically leaner, and so they can hold it a lot more easily.
Then those guys make the suggestion that that's- Yes.
this.
You need to recover from your ankle quick, woke 2026 coming back fast, return to 3rd straps,
oh don't worry, I'll be there.
A sustainable sweet spot, not realizing that most people will have to struggle to get it.
So glad Hasan is distracted and can't keep pausing this boring video.
Bro, I don't understand why people get so fucking butt hurt about like what I'm watching,
you know what I mean or what I'm enjoying.
Like obviously I like Jeff, I like this content.
The video is pretty good.
He's literally taking the most like anti-ED approach you possibly can, antibody dysmorphia
approach you possibly can, to an otherwise difficult to discern subject matter, is very
healthy outlook overall, and people still, the wokeers in the chat still find a way to
get mad about it.
There, and for them, it may not be worth it.
So, unless you have really good genetics, you most likely won't just end up at
10% body fat.
It's certainly an achievable goal, but for most people, it will be a challenge
and it will require some serious dietary structure.
Oh, and for women, most research sites,
10% body fat as the leanest level biologically possible.
So I do not recommend getting to this level
unless you're doing it for a short term
competitive purpose.
Ideally under the supervision of a coach
or a medical professional.
Yeah, most folks be like,
can we watch a video on how many trees are in Skyrim?
But I did manage to find a couple of things.
Which sounds awesome.
AJ is a professional bikini competitor
Her Dexascan came back at...
WOOOOOO!
Y'all are so autistic, bro.
I swear to god this chat is like...
WEEOW!
Oh my god!
Let's watch that instead!
Oh my god!
I have never seen this in my whole life.
What is...
9.9.
But this level of body fat doesn't come without serious side effects.
It feels terrible, so bad.
If I brush my hair, a lot of hair comes out.
I haven't had a period in quite a long time.
My last period might have been May.
I know it's gonna take a while to get it back.
Gia is also a national level competitor
and she came back even later, 9.1% body fat.
Absolutely mind blowing.
But again, this is a very short term thing
that I wouldn't recommend
outside of very serious competitive contexts.
Three weeks ago, I started to notice like a significant dip in my energy levels to the point where I would stand up and I'd be like look
And just like walk like for me
This is a deeply unhealthy level of body fat percentage, but this is like again super super super specific circumstances
Okay, most people are never getting there
but I
Literally at 15% would get to that level when I first lost all the weight like I would get I I would get light-headed and shit at
15% which is crazy, but it's not so crazy when you realize that like for most of my life
I was at like 35 to 40% body fat king up the stairs or just walking
Because like it felt like such a chore. Yeah and food cravings at this level are usually absolutely out of control
I went out for yeah
Like there is literally just like
Like bare minimum fucking
and body fat at that point.
It's just like,
the girls of sushi,
eat five guys plus fries,
plus eat that entire day.
Your body is metabolizing it so quickly,
but the more you eat,
the more your body wants food.
So.
Given the extreme health risks of going any lower,
this is the leanest level I'll be showing for women,
but there's still two levels left for men.
And the last level gets pretty wild.
Okay, 8% body fat is what I would consider shredded.
This is Luke.
He's a professional natural physique competitor, two weeks out from his competition.
And his body fat came back at 8.4% on DEXA.
Of course, he's 5'6".
This is what I mean.
This is what I mean.
Short Kings, you got this, okay?
9.5% on BIA.
At this level of lean-ness, you have clear, deep striations in almost all your muscle
groups.
Usually the-
5% is Ronaldo levels.
No dog.
5% is- Ronaldo's like 8% too.
Only muscle not fully striated at 8% body fat is your glutes.
And that may sound awesome, and you do look super-ripped, but if you are willing to make
the sacrifices necessary to get here-
Haha, gay guy fat, yeah, this guy's fat for West Hollywood e-gross.
You're still gonna have to deal with some side effects.
Your testosterone usually starts to drop off simply because your body is sending every
signal to just go find some food.
No time for reproduction, you need to eat.
No time for sleep, you need to eat.
You might be thinking about food all day and night.
If you could have one sheet meal right now, what would it be?
Sushi.
I didn't even have to think!
Now, while there may be a few extreme genetic outliers who can get here without any serious
discomfort, the vast majority of men will only be able to sustain this level of leneness
for a short period of time.
ABCDEFG.
Can you start reciting that backwards for me?
Starting at G.
Dude, I couldn't do that even if I wanted to.
Do you find that you have like brain fog like you can always get the words you want and that kind of thing?
Yeah, I'm running in like slow motion at all times
The littlest of things can annoy me and agitate me so much if you want to get to eat present body fat for a photo shoot or a
Competition I do think there is a relatively healthier way to do it. What was it that you guys did at the one PCM?
Oh, it was nowhere near as comprehensive as it was a regular in-body
When you touch it and stuff and what did it what did mine say at that one?
Does anyone remember?
I had a fairly low body percentage. I think it was like lower than Austin and will or was it higher than Austin
It was higher than Austin lower than wills maybe
One piece was a gimmick no it wasn't a fucking gimmick dude it was a it was an in-body scanner which is again super super unreliable. It's not I
Think it was like 13% or something and will was like 18% as a man eat high protein
Don't die too quickly
So for real no, I think I
Thought I was gonna have the highest but I didn't have the highest I think will have the highest and I think I might have even beat Austin
Unless I'm misremembering which was crazy cuz I I don't think I I
I mean, it was all on camera. Do you guys not remember? Fuck.
And try to keep your cool, but it can't get tricky after the diet is over. That's because
your body is constantly screaming at you to eat more. And so a lot of men will quickly
rebound and wait, oftentimes shooting over where they were before they even started.
That's why I don't usually recommend getting to single digit body fat, unless you have
a really good reason for it in a solid plan for after the diet is over. But they're
still one level left to go. People don't realize it gets a 5% that's like a next level kind of
I personally think it's impossible for most men without enhancement. Not to be too low,
but why would competitions like this exist is that it really does seem to harm the
contents of 8% body fat. What? Dude, what do you mean? It's about it's about pushing yourself
to the fucking limit dude. That's why it's a competition. It's like saying why does
American football exists. You know, why does any athletic endeavor exist? This is a totally
different thing than like the other kinds of athletic endeavors. But like, yeah, that's
the whole point. You're doing something that most human beings cannot even come near at
all.
It's very hard because he drives the muscle up and see the different percent down. Okay.
So we started at 50% and now we're all the way down to 5% body fat. This is Lachlan
and he's three weeks out from a classic physique competition. And he came in at 5.5% on
Dexa is crazy 3.1% on BIA
5.5
Traded man. I told you that's awesome
This is an extreme borderline dangerous level of lenis and generally only makes sense in the context of bodybuilding contest prep
at this level you'll have dense grainy muscle separation and
Honestly, it's very very difficult to achieve without anabolic assistance simply because as you naturally cut down below
6, 7, or 8%, your body starts to eat away at your muscle.
No matter what you do, the side effects to get this lean are going to be rough.
Your body's going to be sending you every possible signal to please go eat
all hours of day and night.
And it's interesting, because the fitness industry praises leanness so much,
a lot of people think the leaner you get, the healthier you get.
But that isn't true.
The body fat that I'm at right now is not attainable long term.
The little tasks in life become the most challenging.
Getting out of your car to walk into work. It's like you got to sit there and think if I gotta go do this
You know what the the irony is we both go through the same problems
But we both have different goals and journeys in life
And this is where it gets crazy because I do think this level of leanness
Especially combined with certain special supplements can cause people to act in ways. Yeah, the problem is this
this level of lean is is
virtually impossible to get to
the other level of lean is that 50% is not so impossible to get to at least for
someone like myself okay no longer recognize after filming this video
1.730 in this video.
1.9% Subject.
At the gym.
At the gym.
In the moments that I go out of line.
My studio is proposing a further step.
Not that we have a f***ing phone call.
Why can't you go down there?
You don't need the f***ing thing.
I go somewhere else.
This is the posting room.
Dude, the posting room is down there.
I'm not going to do anything.
You can't f***ing see a f***ing thing.
That's why it's not.
Okay, so what?
Can I- Can we talk to me?
It's crazy that this guy literally got out of her doing Royd Rage.
You're not a brother, you're not a brother, are you?
Why are you being so...
If you're in a f***ing live streaming spot dude, if you want to go do that, you can do that outside,
you can do that over there, I need the lighting to post.
The incident ended up going viral on social media, and to be honest, my initial reaction was to think it was staged.
What are the chances that two subjects from this video just happened to run into each other
and get it in altercation the very next week?
So after the incident I wanted to give them both a call to make sure everything was alright
and to get their thoughts on why this happened.
Um, what would I say to him? Well, I would, you know, I would apologize and tell him that I'm like, I apologize for the way I handle things.
Because I do take responsibility. That was not who I am. I reacted out of emotion and not logic.
Also, Jeff knows personally what Roydrage looks like. If you recall, uh, fucking Roydrage's psycho literally physically assaulted him, like, neck punched him.
I forget who it was, but there was this other fucking bodybuilder guy who
Straight up attacked him at this fucking gym that he was working out at
And that happens to people sometimes it happened to me I feel bad I'll learn from it
I'll grow from it. That's how that's how I roll. Okay, first of all, I didn't expect the video to do it
The way it did. I didn't feel so good about it because he's a R8
Hmm. Ali had a good attitude about the situation too, reiterating that it's never okay to body shame someone
and we want the gym to be a place where everyone feels safe and welcome no matter their shape or their size.
Yeah, you know what's funny Jeff is like I've never had any sort of experience with feeling any different while using that sort of supplementation
but it's almost like this video made me think like oh man, maybe I did void rage
You know what I mean like I don't know if
If Royd rage is like a real thing or not, like I haven't seen much in the way of like
actual science about it, but anecdotally, like you do tend to see that like the higher dosage
guys, like they do tend to let their temper get the best of them more often, but it seems
to be very individual.
And I mean, I agree with Royd rage is just when people are taking anabolic steroids
like testosterone supplements and things of that nature, they just snap and they're
like impossible to fucking deal with. Yeah, it's emotional dysfunction. I mean, you do
basically become a fucking caveman when you take steroids. Like you are unironically breaking
your brain. I mean, a lot of smarter steroid users will openly cop to that. Testosterone
very powerful hormone, you know? Some men look to that and think that's like, good and cool,
and that's where the toxic masculinity comes in. It's not a good thing at all.
Like it's not an excuse and it should be like that type of behavior is not acceptable for
for sure, obviously, but I think like it's a contributing factor, you know, like it is
a contributing factor.
Okay, so with all this in mind, if you want to...
On ironically, one of the reasons why, aside from my addictive personality that I have shied
away from using steroids even though I don't have a good thing...
Best combination of health, performance, and aesthetics, what's the ideal body fat
percentage for you?
Well, I know I detailed a lot of different body fat percentages in this video,
but honestly, the precise number doesn't matter as much as you think.
That said, for most women, 20-30% is usually the sweet spot.
But genetic differences are huge, so if you fall outside that range, it doesn't necessarily
mean you're automatically unhealthy.
Not at all.
In fact, the American College of Sports Medicine recommends 20-32% as the optimal, healthy
range for women.
Going a bit higher or a bit lower isn't game over.
For men, the ACSM cites 10-22% as the healthy range.
I think 10-20% is the sweet spot, though.
If your main goal is lean aesthetics, even for the lower end of that range, so 10-15%,
if your main goal is maximum strength performance, the upper end of that.
You take a role, right?
He said he takes something to hell with the gym, though he- no, I don't.
I don't know where you got that from.
I said I would be down to do it, but no, I have not.
Brother, if I took steroids, you would know.
Okay, worst bait of all time.
If I took steroids you would fucking know.
I think you might be thinking of creatine which is not anything, it's not a, it's just
a supplement.
Range might be a bit better, so 15 to 20% and that's about it.
Well, while you're here, you've been saying that on Reddit or Twitter, I love that.
I love when they say that because it's a compliment.
But it also kind of demonstrates how stupid they are, especially because most people that
have been to the gym even for like a little bit will recognize that I do not have the
body of a steroid user. I wish I did, but that's not the case. Like that's not even remotely
the case.
Charts currently online really aren't the best. Here's one that I put together using the
real life subjects in this video if you want a screenshot. But honestly, if you're
trying to get healthier, I think rather than fixating on a specific body fat
percentage, you should focus on how you're moving, how you're training.
That's kind of wag, why would you be down to use them?
I mean, when naturally, when someone gets to a certain age, your body stops
producing testosterone, at which point I feel like there is a benefit to still
producing a level of testosterone that you would when you are younger.
How you're eating and how you're feeling.
What matters isn't the perfect percentage.
It's finding a range where you can live a healthy and balanced.
Did I say it stops producing testosterone?
I meant it starts decreasing the testosterone production.
No, of course you don't stop producing testosterone.
If you have stopped producing testosterone, you definitely need TRT.
I just meant you stop producing as much testosterone.
Your body pack a lot of muscles naturally, but your lift numbers are what really shows
you are an addict.
Yeah, my lift numbers are very weak.
That's another way you can tell when someone is natural as well, I guess, to a certain
degree.
But you can mostly just tell from the way someone looks.
I mean, for the level of experience that I have, for the level of experience that I have,
is it at this stage somewhat experienced lifter.
I'm, you know, the fact that I'm doing,
the fact that I can't even clear at 225 easily for 12,
which is what I could do at my peak with ease.
It's not, it's pretty fucking weak.
I'm not weak compared to the average person, but, um, but someone, um, but someone at my
my, my, um, like if I, if I take a stairway, is this important in my life or if I was, um,
I don't know at 225 for bench, you are still in the top 10 to 15% for 35 year olds. I know,
but that's why I'm saying like I shouldn't be, I should be higher than that.
Your levels are the one piece gym.
17%
I legitimately thought I'd be in the 30s haven't been to illness.
We're not on vacation.
Okay, we are on vacation.
We're eating on vacation.
I'm on vacation.
Hop up there, twink.
Let's see if it's sub 10.
Come on.
Oh, yeah.
So will was 17.
Let's let's let the record show.
I'm going for self induced twink.
That's the way to answer my twink to the twink.
You are 15.3% you have before will yeah also these are not accurate these are inaccurate readers
what was Austin so I was 15.3 will 17 and Austin was what
Yeah, bro. This was literally this year. This was this was this year chatter. This
was the beginning of this year.
Oh, thank you.
Do you want the white one?
Do you want the white one?
Do you want the sauce one?
Why?
Okay.
Alright.
Your beard turned gray this year. I mean it was gray over there, too
You've been you've been fasting for every day from 5 a.m. To like 5 p.m. That's probably why
Hi, yeah
Oh, no, oh shit, I'm on crimson
I
Wait, hi book a door cup
All right, anyway, let's get back to it. We're done with this shouts out to Jeff
Best Hassan Abbey head out there
Best ever do it
Are we out of content, what are we watching right now chat? No, we're not out of fucking content dipshit
Jesus Christ, I fucking can't stand so many people.
God damn dude, one fucking sight step.
First of all, this community is fucking unbearable.
I have absolutely, I will take ownership over this,
but I absolutely have created and cultivated
and designed a community that is unimaginably unbearable.
The fucking first sign that we move away
from maximum politics and 5,000 people left.
Like literally, they're like, oh my God,
I can't believe we're doing something
That's not immediately talking about like growing anti-Semitism in the country or shit like that. I'm out. Fuck this
That's not how things used to go. People were were
Used to a more diverse
a
diverse
Realm of interest in this community. It is fucking unbearable. Okay?
It is fucking unbearable at least like people used to do that during gaming
Now they don't even do that for like any other variety that isn't immediately political
Okay
It's crazy
That people don't want an hour lecture on how we should work out more. Oh shut the fuck up
Shut the fuck up
Anyway, let's get back to Candace Owens who responded to Ben Shapiro
Shitting on Candace Owens yesterday and this video is
His literally has 1.8 million views in one day. Okay. From yesterday.
And it is chock full of some of the most insane anti-Semitism I have ever
encountered.
Audience just went kaput.
People just stopped watching his podcast because he was screaming at Americans
that we needed to prioritize Israel and people just didn't feel that way.
Okay. So our country, I'm sorry that that happened to you,
but why do Americans need to be screamed out about what's happening in the
Middle East?
Anyways, throughout this time, Brian Mast was wearing an IDF uniform in Congress, and
he basically said that there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian life.
And when I saw this, as shared by Yashar Ali on X, I responded, and I said that genocidal
language, no matter who shares it, is always wrong.
Genocide is always wrong is what I tweeted, and this caused an emotional breakdown amongst
people who support Israel.
I didn't think that was a controversial statement.
I thought that was sort of what we all believed in.
Genocide is always wrong.
Anyways, for Ben, he then had some private events.
Probably I had another Jewish donor's house
and somebody caught him standing on a table
insulting me over my genocide is always wrong tweet.
Take a listen to what Ben had to say.
Yeah, by the way, congratulations to Ben Shapiro
for one, literally developing Candace Owens as a talent,
knowing full well that she was anti-Semitic
and not giving a shit about it
because she was pro-Israel,
only to then literally fire her,
only to then literally fire her
for her anti-Israel position,
knowing full well that she was already anti-Semitic,
which offered her a major fucking lifeline
and a major point of legitimacy
because now she had actually suffered repercussions
as a consequence of her anti-genocide position, which then gave her anti-semitic point of
view a lot more legitimacy in the eyes of the public.
And that's precisely where we're at now.
Another person who basically designed this system suffering from the consequences.
Isn't that great?
I think her post sophistication on these particular issues has been ridiculous, it's not post sophistication, it's ridiculous.
Everybody can see the moves that she's making
and the things that she's saying
and then kind of distract people.
Disruptible, disgraceful, she works at my company.
You can imagine that the internet went crazy
because they wanted me to respond to him.
I can't believe this.
They worked together, they're colleagues.
Somehow this gets leaked.
And I want to mention, because it's very relevant,
that that was on the morning of November 14th.
I was six days away from giving birth.
I was very heavily pregnant.
Anyways, I wake up to this and shockingly,
I'm not, nobody from the Daily Wire steps in
to manage the situation.
And as you can imagine, virtually every journalist,
every person with a media platform
was contacting me to comment,
to respond to me being insulted by someone,
about to give birth, I'm being insulted
and they're not getting anything from the Daily Wire.
So I am obviously frustrated.
I should, you should also tell you
I had no PR at this time.
My PR was the internal PR at the Daily Wire.
And it was very clear that their focus
was on protecting Ben,
even though he was the one who insulted me publicly,
because I said that genocide is always wrong.
That is the genesis of that statement.
That's all I said.
Obviously, I wanted to respond angrily to the press.
I wanted to hit back at Ben.
And I guess you could sort of say
My perspective was an eye for an eye, but my husband was a better person than me, instructed
me that morning to instead take a deep breath, relax, okay?
Don't think about what you're feeling at the moment.
Think about how you're going to feel in the future.
And he instructed me to instead read the Bible, sermon on the mount, the sermon on
the mount.
I read through it and he reminds me that everybody who wants a comment, they don't
care about me either, right?
They're selling headlines.
They want the clicks.
They want the drama.
I'm gonna feed into that for what reason?
For what reason, actually?
Am I gonna give a comment
and say something about Ben Shapiro?
Blessed are the peacemakers, right?
Don't buy into this click culture.
And so I tweeted that, actually,
my husband was right.
I called for peace.
I tweeted, blessed are the peacemakers.
And I made the mistake, I guess it was a mistake.
And after I tweeted, blessed are the peacemakers.
And I'm thinking that I'm gonna be commended
when I get back to work.
like, wow, you really took the high road.
I ended this biblical passage with Christ is king.
Christ is the king, he's the only thing that matters,
obviously Christ is king.
Now it was just Tucker Carlson's luck
that I had been slated to come on his news show
the very next day.
He had booked me six weeks earlier,
I got approval from Daily Wire.
He booked me for November 15th.
So suddenly Ben gets on this table,
he insults me, it's trending all over Twitter,
and Tucker Carlson is going to be the first person
to capture my reaction to it.
And when it came time, I kept up with the peacemaker.
I decided, I made the decision to just take the high road.
I said, you know, I don't want that to negatively impact
how people perceive the daily wire.
There are great people there.
I mean, I wouldn't be proud on that,
but I'm not taking the bait here.
I didn't say anything snipey back at Ben
because I didn't want to feed the mob.
That was my honest perspective.
My husband was just right.
And also we're talking about a work colleague, right?
Somehow me taking the high road made him angrier.
So here's what he did.
Elsewhere in my interview with Tucker,
he asks me who I look up to, who I like.
And I told Tucker the truth
that it was my dream to meet Thomas Sowell,
that when I first got into politics,
I read a ton of Thomas Sowell books
and I had tried many times to meet him
Of course, of course you did.
Yeah. This is a classic.
I mean, Clarence Thomas also found Thomas Sowell to be so life altering that played
a big role in changing and shaping his understanding.
Thomas Sowell is, I believe he also
was another one of these fucking former Marxist guys.
He is basically the, yeah, the Jesus of black
conservatism in America.
Another former Marxist turned into a white supremacist.
And obviously he's aging, but I really looked
to Dr. Thomas Soul and here's that clip with me and Tucker.
Who do you listen to when you're trying to figure out, I mean some of the stuff comes
at you so fast and you're talking almost every day or writing almost every day.
Who do you read or listen to to try to make sense or bounce ideas off of?
You know I have been obsessed with Thomas Soul and everybody knows that.
I am pretty much a Thomas Soul groupie.
Everything he writes I read.
And it is because he finally, he was a part of my awakening story into politics and made
me focus on the economics, which is to say, block out the noise and pay attention to economics.
Go backwards in history to understand where we are.
When has this worked?
Oh, it's never worked.
So there's telling you that it's going to work into the future and there's no evidence
to support that.
So Ben saw that he decided, Thomas soul, hey, that's your dream.
You love Thomas soul.
He thought that was an opportunity to get even with me for taking the high road after
he insulted V on stage because he's deeply jealous of Tucker Carlson for reasons that
I cannot quite understand.
Ben had his team reach out and schedule an interview with Thomas Sowell, which they
paid for an offensive amount of money, I presume, to effectively purchase a black man
who has no idea what's going on.
He's very old, he's in his 90s to hurt my feelings.
Okay?
interview with Tucker is on the 15th. I think it premieres on the 16th. And Ben gets Thomas
soul who he doesn't care about. I'm working at the daily wire at this moment and I'm
about to get birth in three days. But this was supposed to be like an F you can desk
for taking the high road and saying that genocide is always wrong. That is what I mean. When
I say he is an incredibly petty man. Okay, I'm sorry. She's such a fucking grifter,
Like, like I believe certain parts of this certain parts of the story because the person that she's talking about has been Shapiro
Right. I remember tracking this stuff closely at the time when Candace Owens was obviously, you know, consistently talking shit about Israel
While still being under the banner of the daily wire many people were paying attention to that realizing that this wasn't a simple disagreement
disagreement or a simple difference in opinion, and it was actually becoming consequential,
and a lot of people from the outside, maybe myself included, were egging it on a little
bit, okay? And Ben Shapiro did, as a matter of fact, talk shit about her when he was
at that event, as she also correctly pointed to. But all this extra stuff about, like,
He hired Thomas soul, which was purchasing a black man
like
This is this is what I get really fucking annoyed by with with all of these conservative grifters
Where they play fast and loose with like identity politics
Whenever it fucking suits their purpose in some ways what Candace is doing it's kind of like no different than what Ben does too
Okay
What do you mean
You are literally, you have tailored your entire career around being, you are tail, you are in opposition to any kind of sentiment expressed in the direction of anti-blackness being a fundamental part of American existence.
Your, your misses, uh, systematic racism doesn't exist.
I just don't understand how.
Oh boy, the son stepping in that convo.
What convo?
I don't understand this argument.
People are, people will always fucking talk about like Candace.
Always as though she's like a, like a black liberationist icon or something.
No.
This is not the case.
Her entire commentary about black issues
unironically revolve around the most white supremacist
statements you can ever comprehend.
Like she's done entire documentaries talking about,
yeah, she wore a white lives matter shirt with Kanye West.
She wrote, she made documentaries about how George Floyd died
because of a drug overdose.
Like she is the number one.
She's the number one George Floyd died of a drug overdose person in the conservative sphere.
I just, I hate this, I hate this shit so much. I think it's, it's not only self-defeating and it really frustrates me.
And like while Candice's current audience is probably no longer as white as it once was,
Especially because she's definitely eased off on some of the overt white supremacists undertones and
And and shifted her priorities to like, you know anti-Semitism and shit
It's still very frustrating why like a lot of people don't take it into account why she was already a daily wire
Correspondent to begin with
I hate that people eat debate every time and self-described quote-unquote progressive minded
leftist minded people do that every time. Okay, now we know how to sense I then am fired fired
not for what I said but for what they assumed that I meant and for trolls that I didn't respond to
And I want to be clear, it is, you can fire whoever you want.
You really can if you're a business owner.
It's just that this was atypical
in the fashion that it was done, right?
It wasn't done in the way where you just say,
okay, get out of here, it's not working.
Instead, what they decided to do was humiliate me
in front of all of the other employees
by rather than having a conversation,
sort of dramatically having the exits
after doing my show,
I'm not knowing that I was going to be fired.
And then they had put together a stage in my studio
and put up clips of put together basically a whole package
like almost like a high school play
and conducted what I honestly,
but I look back because it recently leaked
what happened at this quote unquote town hall.
This is a slave hanging.
This is a slave hanging, right?
Gather around everybody else as a slave.
And let me tell you how this one messed up.
Gather around and watch us whip this person.
This is literally how I feel when I watch this, okay?
And you'll know what not to do next.
Bro, once a black conservative, always a black conservative.
Another telltale sign
of playing so fast and loose
with racialized imagery of this regard.
Whenever it suits your own propaganda purposes, one of the things you always hear is like, oh, we're escaping the Democratic Party's plantation.
Like, oh, the Democrat plantation, we're escaping the Democratic Party's plantation. It's like a classic marker, a hallmark of a black conservative commentary.
is to almost put in a serious conversation,
because they're not like making a joke or anything,
but in a serious conversation,
invoking the imagery of chattel slavery
and some of the most violent aspects of chattel slavery
in an effort to suit your purposes,
almost diluting the impact and the seriousness
of these historical events,
It's crazy that like the person that
Hannah's always who like spent an entire career leading up to this moment
talking about and even in this video she does a bit of this as well like
advocating the responsibility of white people from chattel slavery as she
misdirects the attention or redirect the attention and and shifts the
The blame over to to Jews
That person is also simultaneously talking about how what she went through was like a like a slave hanging. I
Just don't
I don't know it just it's in some ways
There is this other part of my brain that wants to sympathize with her to a certain degree when she's talking about like as a black woman being
being totally discarded and cast aside the little humiliated by an objectively white supremacist institution that is the daily wire.
But also I know what her commentary is and why she was even hired by the daily wire to begin with.
I know that she doesn't give a fuck about white supremacy or beyond like she cares about
propagandizing against or in favor of white supremacy rather.
That's what she made money on.
I still think she has white supremacist tendencies.
And here is a video of the then CEO Jeremy Boring, which somehow Stephen Crowder got
a hold of this week or last week or whatever.
This is just a portion of it.
You should watch the entire thing
because it really is something.
And ask yourself in your memory,
do you ever recall anybody ever being fired
where 300 employees been joined electronically?
He was up on the screen too
and just enjoyed watching me be humiliated
where 300 employees are invited down
and shown a production of what this person did wrong.
Okay, well let's watch a little bit of this video.
Candace made no statement at all in the days after Hamas terrorists rape, murdered and tortured
over a thousand Israeli civilians, mostly Jews, some Americans, and then they took hundreds
more hostage.
But then on October 28th of 2023, while anti-Israel protests were raging in London where Candace
I believe was at the time, she reposted a video of the protests on X, commenting
quote, interesting thing happening here.
are not accepting the media narrative about what's happening in the Middle East despite
the insistent rhetoric from government officials. On November 3rd, she posted quote,
no government anywhere has a right to commit a genocide ever. There is no justification for a genocide.
Okay, never mind. Critical support for Candace on this video.
Up until this point, the rest of the anti-Semitic shit that she's about to get into,
I do not support, but this point
It's so fucking crazy, dude
It's so fucking crazy
It is so nutty how these guys
Will find a way to be the fucking villains in every situation. God damn that is so evil
It's wild because well, I'm gonna repeat this one more time
Candace Owens was hired by the daily wire by this dipshit on camera
Okay, alongside Ben Shapiro when they had full knowledge that she had said a lot of anti-Semitic shit
Okay, but at the time she was pro-Israel
Only after October 7 where she was still saying anti-Semitic stuff every now and then
But was saying a lot of anti-Israel shit
With regular frequency did they actually have a major issue with her?
and it's very obvious that even here Jeremy Boring is like
openly showing his frustrations. It's not about even like perceived anti-Semitism because
none of the things that she, none of the things that he brings up about Canada is always here
is even remotely anti-Semitic. He's just fucking literally these are normal statements.
I can't believe this even needs to be said or is even considered the least bit controversial
to state. There's only one country on earth being accused of genocide at the time.
Anti-Semites on X took to it immediately.
They cheered at what they rightly or wrongly interpreted
as Candice smearing Israel.
And Candice didn't robust their interpretation.
So when Dave Rubin came to the exact same conclusion
that the anti-Semites, only instead of cheering for Candice,
found it vile and rebuked her, Candice quickly
attacked saying, quote, what's amazing about this
is that I didn't name any country in this tweet.
I simply stated that genocide is wrong always.
This is not a controversial stance.
Interesting how you interpreted it and then followed up with the pro is your proud is so stupid. Oh my god
They got duped by Candace Owens. Oh my god
Oh my god
Oh my god, you guys are so fucking horny to
Defend Israel and to just be awful at your jobs
That you got literally owned by Candace Owens, man
Oh the conservative movement deserves this. Oh couldn't have happened to a group of worse people. I swear to God.
Oh entire career is built around combat and cancel culture and being as racist as you openly can be.
Hiring people specifically so that they can be tokens in that field.
like Candace Owens was hired specifically to do anti-black commentary, okay?
I was a black person.
Only to have that demon that you cultivated,
that you basically brought up,
turn on you and fucking light your ass on fire.
So, in short, if the blanket statement that genocide is wrong that sets you in any way,
then you need to check yourselves.
I said exactly what I meant and I won't be backing down or apologizing
or further clarifying this statement. Within 24 hours and it's like the post calling Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal. Now let's be clear. You're free to disagree with
Israel's conduct and you're free to oppose the Netanyahu government. Nope.
It's funny to me or at least the irony is not lost on me
that they hired Candace Owens to be anti-black. And then they objectively say that they fired Candace
Owens because she had the correct position on an issue once. That's crazy. That is crazy.
That is fucking crazy like did this leaked footage I
Could not believe these people were just like sitting in a room and talking about this shit like this was
This was the most unacceptable position
And why she must be fired and the position that they fired her over was genocide is bad and Benjamin and y'all is a war criminal
That's crazy, man. That's crazy.
But the idea that Israel is committing genocide or that Netanyahu is a war criminal is just
factually baseless. Unfortunately, in this routinely-made
insinuations about Jews that both lovers of anti-Semitism and haters of anti-Semitism
Both agree it's anti-Semitic.
And in almost every one of these instances,
Candice says nothing to the anti-Semites who cheer her
and only pushes back against those
who disapprove of her comments.
On February 28th of this year, Candice,
just asking questions, posted, quote,
time to look into the history
and proper sharing of pornography.
Her replies were immediately flooded
with anti-Semites sharing her for the question
and providing the answer that they interpreted her
to me, the Jews.
Once again, Candace did nothing to disuse the anti-semites of their assumption.
Okay, this is when it starts getting like...
This is now when she starts doing the, you know, just asking questions shit.
So...
Now it's turning into that.
the ambiguous tweets about how like Jews are responsible for pornography in the Western
world they're doing it so that they can like you know undermine Western civilization stuff
like that now she's doing jq posting from this point out but leading up to that very
moment the shit that he's actually fucking mad about there is not even anything there
That is remotely controversial
But when Anthony cooks came to the exact same conclusion and just pushed back saying quote
This is utterly insane. I actually did the corn is harming men in our society and this person has interpreted that as an attack on Jews
This is an example of clinical insanity. There is no other explanation. I
Stand by all of those tweets
This pornography is harming men.
We should look into who profits off of pornography.
Genocide is always wrong, no matter which country calls for it, whatever.
What was-
Do you guys understand why I specifically said one is different than the other?
Because one of the most common things, one of the most common anti-Semitic troubles
is Jews are responsible for destroying Western civilization, stuff like that.
like one way that they talk about it is like, I don't know, the guy who fucking owns only
fans or the guy who owns not one of the guy, not the guy who owns porn hub, but like one
of the people that owns porn hub, like there's Jewish people in the executive role in many
different companies, including in the porn industry, right?
But they specifically make it seem as though this is like a Jewish invention.
The main guy who owns the founder only fan is Jewish.
And so is like, there's a couple of people at Pornhub in the C-suite that are Jewish,
but they will literally be like, oh, this is like a Jewish invention, pornography is
Jewish invention. Now, I know a
Port Hubs Canadian own. Why do
people get so crazy about
religion? I feel like if you
know stuff about the CEO's
port of porn sites, you're too
far gone. Yeah, it's um, the
The reason why I know about it is because it's a common trope, like, will there be like,
oh, it's all, all the pornographers are Jews, it's like a common anti-sex work trope and
also a common anti-semitic trope.
It doesn't fucking matter, okay?
You either, you either, you either think porn is fine or the sex work industry has
issues that must be addressed, must be solved, or you think it's the great evil
Who gives a fuck whether or not the person that are the person that are making money,
the people that are making money off of the porn websites are Jewish or Christian or whatever
the fuck.
That's it.
They're capitalists.
They're capital owners.
They're making money.
That's their goal.
controversial about anything that I say now I'm again wanting you to these are my
crimes. Just imagine 300 people being brought and said like it's it's this is
she said this and this is what we know and then he goes into a diatribe about
the real big of Christ is King and he shows videos of Nick Fuentes which have
nothing and nothing to do with me I've never even spoken at the only one
time I'd spoken ever to Nick Fuentes and it was pertaining to Kanye. Yeah
Yeah, that was it.
But I'm showing you this because it's important
for you to understand that this has never stopped.
I want you to imagine if you view yourself
to be a slave owner and that slave not only survives
like this public whipping, but that escapes
and becomes successful, that's pretty much.
She's so insane, bro.
I swear to God.
I mean, this is low Kirk the same Kanye stuff, right?
It's like she's saying her audience is no longer conservative.
That's what's so dangerous about it because like, there are a lot of fucking normies that
watch her.
There are a lot of like liberal people that watch her and when they hear this kind
stuff they're like oh my god queen you're right many of them are not even aware of her background
or what she gets up to and and now that she's like comparing her struggles with the daily
wire of the slavery it kind of makes more sense as to why she ties it back to like
jews did chattel slavery
that's what she's doing
and she will get into it in a second
that's why she brings up the copy of the talmudic jew and shit like that
my relationship with ben Shapiro since he's fired me because they have not
stopped
they have not stopped i'm talking about
People work behind the scenes to call advertisers attempting to bankrupt me in courts sending undercover interns to stalk me
He has issued thus far three court proceedings. Okay for every solitary petty infraction
Against things that I say he's worked with Barry Weiss behind the scenes to have articles written about me
It is non stop
I refer to this just to be clear as legal abuse. It's legal abuse and I have put up with a lot of it
I have put up with the pettiness of even suing me because I interviewed a U.S.
Bro, can you imagine after leftovers I just turned around and was like running around with a copy of the Talmudic Jew being like
This is how your people are even client like how fucking insane that would be
But what the fuck are you doing can is always you're that's so insane
It's ironic because Ethan acts as though this is what Ken is always doing here is what I did to him, right?
But now that you can see like an actual straight-up fucking anti-Semite and how they react
Maybe you can understand the the major difference here. He low key did that to you
No, he I mean he was up my fucking asshole in the same way that seemingly Ben Shapiro was up hers
That didn't fucking, you know, they didn't change my worldviews. I'm not a fuckhead
S Liberty survivor who mentioned your name
The only difference is they didn't work with Ben Shapiro to tackle clandestines and her
you know
her
True anti-semitic nature or anything like that. They were too busy yelling at me alongside Ethan Klein
As you pretend that you care about free speech and debates, I've put up with a lot of it, but today I draw the line.
I draw the line with this miserable imp when it comes to Charlie Kirk.
Okay, don't try me on this, but you keep trying me on this. You are an imposter, Ben.
You're an imposter. You pay to pretend that you're-
Oh, yeah. He actually said I was more anti-Semitic than Candace Owens, actually, right?
Didn't he say something along those lines? Or he said, my anti-Semitism is more nefarious.
then, then Candace Owens is anti-Semitism because it's like I hide it. I hide my anti-Semitism
or something, right? He was like, at least Candace Owens is open about, at least Nick
Fuentes and Candace Owens are open about their anti-Semitism, whereas I, I guess, don't
do a good enough job of like, um, openly revealing my, my power level of anti-semitism as opposed
to these guys, or maybe there's a secret third option here, which is that I'm not fucking
anti-semitic dumbass.
That's what's so crazy, especially because like brother, anti-semitism is popping right
now. Trust me. It's like when people accuse me of being transphobic, it's like, dog,
if I was transphobic, I'd just be transphobic. It would be beneficial for my fucking career
to be openly and outwardly transphobic. Same with being anti-Semitic at this point, like
running around and being like, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, like the Alex Jones video is
unironically what people are demanding. That is a market demand at this point. Okay? Yeah,
This is labeling you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,
you know, I could be doing that.
I mean, that's what Candace is doing.
We'll start hearing it in a second.
I think he says I'm not just about your denying the existence of my Middle Eastern
Jews.
I don't fucking know.
It doesn't matter.
Friends, that you have a right to be on that stage because you get donors to pressure people,
because you know Jewish people who can threaten to take money, or you say, I'm going to do
an advertising spend.
Here's a million dollars.
I'm sorry, you're dead.
The entire world knows that you are an imposter.
I mean, you're so much of a fraud that essentially what you do is you have people
send around clips to grown men to cheer you on, to pretend like the audiences love you.
You staff audiences with people that work for YAHF who are told to explode into cheers when
you hit the stage because you don't have the confidence anymore to go out into the
world.
With the many years of advocacy against Israel, if I was overtly anti-Semitic, like actually
Anti-Semitic in the way that these guys claim I am I'd have 200,000 live concurrent viewers right now
I probably wouldn't be on twitch
Actually, I don't know I feel like twitch is also trying to lean into like the right wing shit
But if I genuinely was anti-Semitic and was running around like fucking Alex Jones
I'd have like 200k people watching me currently
Like it's so stupid. It's such a stupid fucking statement
was the fact that Theo Vaughn, and I didn't even know this at the time, the day prior
to me had actually interviewed Candace Owens. I think you and I both agree that Candace
Owens is an anti-Semite, right?
I think that he was hitting, he was on that one, two punch.
Okay.
What about then?
Do you think you hit him with that anti-Semitism boy?
No, either, either, either.
I think he was on the vibe.
As your former podcast co-host, do you think that I am anti-Semitic one? And
If I am, if you think I am, do you think I'm as anti-Semitic as Candace Owens?
So, yes, I think you're anti-Semitic at this point. I'm comfortable saying that.
Are you as anti-Semitic?
Well, let me finish.
Can you? Okay.
Let me finish.
She asked me two questions.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You asked me.
I'm going to anti-Semitic.
Hold the phone.
You asked me two questions together.
I'm going to answer both.
You said, do you think I'm anti-Semitic?
This is the most okay and normal anyone has ever been, by the way.
As you can tell he is I mean he is he was the most normal anyone's ever been
After talking to you so far today, I can say unreservedly. Yes. Do you I think that you are more anti-semantic than Candace Owens?
No, but I think your form of anti-semitism is way more destructive and sinister. Candace Oh, and is out
Hassan this is an important question. You think I'm anti-semitic now
I'm gonna answer I'm gonna I'm gonna answer. Okay
Your form of anti-semitism is way more
Insidious because it's it's it's silent. It's tricky. She's out there just saying what she believes and I respect her for that
Nick Fuentes is just out there though. Nobody knows that they you know, what's his stance on Israel?
Can someone stance on Israel, but you're tricky what you do is deny the heritage of Middle Eastern Jews stuff like that you accuse them
Ethan Klein respects Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes because they're open with their anti-Semitism as opposed to someone like myself
Who is just simply anti-Israel and not anti-Semitic but because in his mind that like that does not exist
that anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism are one and the same.
He thinks like I'm engaging in this insidious form of anti-Semitic trickery.
And yes, if you say Hitler is based, you're actually, you will actually receive praise
from Ethan Klein because at least there that your position is known, right?
I, on the other hand, am engaging in trickery of being always the oppressor, always, always
And by the way, you've spent the first half, you've spent the first part of this debate
calling me insane for what I think most people would perceive as blatant obvious anti-semitic
hacks.
I don't think most people would look at what you're doing right now and think that this
is a sign of mental sanity.
Well, we'll have time to-
The funniest thing about this always was like, it was so personal for him, like where he would
just be like, people don't like me.
And this is anti-Semitism.
And I would have to constantly be like, no dude, anti-Semitism is increasing, especially
because Israel ties everything it does to Jews.
This false conflation doesn't, you know, help Jewish people in the Western world that
actually is a big part of the reason why anti-Semitism is rising, all the stuff.
And he would just immediately turn it back to, well, you hurt my feelings and you're
anti-semitic.
And at some point I had to be like, no dude, people just don't like you.
Like that's not anti-semitism.
You know, they just don't like you.
You know, I don't like you, but that's not, you can't just like keep calling that
this grand anti-semitic conspiracy.
And it's so crazy that so many people still baby this dude where they're like, oh, he's
my 40 year old baby.
And that's why he's, um, that's why he feels the way that he does.
I respect people who hit the Nazi salute in front of me and call me gross and spit on my face for being Jewish
And I really don't like people who say genocide is bad
Yeah, I mean that's the argument
How much of this do you think comes down to him being rattled by the abuses family has gone through due to online shitters
No, that's fucking absolute
That is one quintillion percent
I'm sorry. There are plenty of
things I do not reveal about my
private affairs or the things that
I go through in the backdrop that I
promise you I don't like to make
content out of, but like has not
changed my world view as
dramatically as Ethan Klein has
spent his past two years
actively hounding people.
actively fucking hounding people that were daring to call out Israel committing a genocide.
No. This is his entire content. His entire content is just like bullying people. That's all it is.
Anyway, let's get back to this anti-Semite that Ethan Klein respects.
Because you know people see you for what you are.
And so it, exactly what he did yesterday, we can now listen to what this imposter said
as he hit the stage, Charlie Kirk's organization, the one that he built for debate.
If you have a disagreement and he instructs people here in this speech to go after me and Tucker Carlson, right?
That's what he's going to do. He wants us to be platforms
So he's gonna attack me he's gonna attack Tucker Carlson and
He's gonna attack Megyn Kelly because she's at the beginning of what these people have put me and Tucker and Charlie Kirk through
Take a listen to a portion of what Ben had to say
So if Candace Owens decides to spend every day since the murder of Charlie Kirk
casting aspersions at TPUSA and the people who work here who worked with
Charlie every single day his best friends to cast aspersions at Mikey McCoy and
Andrew Colvin and Blake Neff and Tyler Boyer and yes at Erica Kirk and to
imply or outright claim complicity in a cover-up over Charlie's murder to spew
absolutely baseless trash implicating everyone from French intelligence to
You massage to members of TPUSA and Charlie's murder or a cover-up in that murder, then we
as people with a microphone have a moral obligation to call that out by name.
So no, Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silent on Candice's targeting of TPUSA.
Or to mirror her bullshit lines of questioning because you love Candice personally.
The same holds true of Megyn Kelly, a person I consider a friend, characterizing Candace
as a young mother and thus shying away from condemning her actions or feeling any of them.
That is a non-starter.
When Candace Owen says, I don't know no, but I know, that is retarded and we are all
more retarded for having heard it.
Wow, he's so big.
He's such a big boy dropping the R word, which is funny because right before that
moment he unironically brought up a Nick Fuentes quote where Nick Fuentes was
saying the R word and he used that as a negative where he was like oh look how
silly and stupid Nick Fuentes is for saying the R slur the R word well then
when it comes to you and having worked with you also for the record for the
record for people who are like oh dude why can't we say the word just listen
Ben Shapiro say it over and over again. I used the word, I used to say the word all the time.
Okay. It is hard to drop it out of my fucking daily usage. And the reason why it was is because
it has great mouthfeel. I'm very open about this. I've talked about it before. But I will tell you
this much. Okay. I will tell you this much. And no, for normies, no one gives a shit. Many
people still fucking say it even if they don't use it in this chapter because they know
they'll get banned, okay? So that's not even, that's not even the point of
convention here, okay? I do it because I want to be kind. I want to, I want to be
as welcoming as possible and I know that a lot of people get very upset about it.
So I'm just not gonna fucking use it and I'm not gonna, there's not gonna be a
hill that I will die on, right? It's very stupid. Having said that, however,
There is no greater, there is no greater antidote.
If you want to show how lame and stupid and silly it is.
Okay.
Malfield was next.
It's okay to say the M word.
See, this is what I mean.
See, we're not going to do this right now.
I'm not defending saying it.
I don't say it, but like, there's a difference.
Okay, there's a difference.
There's a difference.
And I think you know the difference as well.
as well. And you should stop. You should stop while you're ahead.
Okay, we're not debating this. I'm not, I'm not saying the word
anyway, but you need to stop being fucking annoying. Okay, you
need to stop being fucking annoying and be normal instead.
Okay, I urge you right now to snap into normalcy instantly.
Okay.
Be normal be fucking normal
In any case don't do disingenuous comparisons about things that I did not say so
Is normalcy caring about the shit no it's not that's why I'm saying snap out of it so
What is a better mouth feel troglodyte is a pretty good word as a substitute
But it's just like too wordy and too lengthy and too long to say so I don't even use it
I just don't say it whatever the point. I was gonna make is
it is
literally
The greatest antidote to never saying it ever again is showing Ben Shapiro saying it
Because you sound like like a 40 year old baby. Okay
when I see
Like people who work at venture capital firms were like, yeah, we can say the our word again. Hell. Yeah
That's why I vote over Donald Trump. I'm like, oh my god, you
Should cease to exist like you are not a serious person. Okay. This is fucking nuts
You hear enough of these guys or like 57 years old
going, who am I being mean? And you start to realize like, okay, well, there's no reason
to say it ever. And it's incredibly fucking lame.
I just know, I just know the tactics that you use to feign popularity in the public.
I just know the amount of money that you are willing to spend on advertising to
inflate your numbers to make people think that you're popular. So yeah,
I don't have to say we don't make you want to say the second half of the world.
Let's do no, it doesn't. If you're saying libtard, no,
because that's an entirely separate term.
And it's also making fun of Republicans saying it.
No, no, when it comes to you,
You are such a joke of a little man, your jealousy against Tucker, your ability to believe that you can keep manipulating the markets.
You know those kids booed you on that stage, the amount of messages I got from Trink.
What is this? It's not a different word. Okay.
Point USA people saying what is happening, why is he on this stage, standing against everything.
You're so cool. It's not because I'm trying to be edgy.
When I say that, I'm making fun of Republicans.
That Charlie believed in.
That's what you're doing. You're standing against everything.
It's like saying, straggit, okay?
It's based off of the same term.
It's built around the same terminology, but it's not the same word.
You know what I mean? It's an entirely different word.
A word that you use to to make a joke about someone who is straight.
Anyway.
Stop. I'm crying. Okay.
there's also a reason why like for example maga tart or something like that doesn't work
in the same vein because then it almost feels like you are saying the same word and just
like slapping it to the back of it whereas whereas libtard on the other hand is something
that like MAGA people say genuinely and it's a very stupid fucking term which is why I don't
feel dirty saying it even though the other one is is it feels even more dirtier to say
I don't know even though it's like technically the same thing
So yeah, that does feel redundant in general.
Yeah, that does.
I try to believed in because you weren't his friend.
He didn't like you for that very reason.
Look at you and I just think you are such a little worm.
I could see you right now probably.
What can we get out to her?
We're gonna sue her into bankruptcy again, right?
Sue her for every infraction every word that I don't like and every time my feelings are hurt
Because what you really believe in is?
Balbarith
That's what that's what your people believe in you believe that you are contract lords and that people are not allowed to violate contracts
You mean this clinical about what words you can and can't say is prove what was back baby
No, no, this is how this community has always been this community is way worse than the fucking average
Like average me. Are you kidding me? No, we've always been this way
Anyway, here's when Candice is getting into a full-blown, like, like what I would say
European style anti-Semitism, okay? Which is definitely a different level of racism that
you often don't encounter. Like, Americans will do the whole, like, oh, Jews have tails
and horns or whatever, or like throwing pennies or shit like that. But this, what she's about
to enter is, dare I say, Euro racism, a level of racism beyond what you would normally expect.
The anti-Semitism in the old classic, you know, like you got, wow, hardcore, classic
mode or whatever. This is basically that, but for anti-Semitism. Like, I feel like one step
removed from this is unironically being like a like a European villager who, you know, when
the black plague comes around instantly, goes after people that they suspect of being Jewish
and tries to throw them in a well or something like this is what this is the kind of anti-Semitism
that you put in books, like you have to read it. You don't, you don't learn this kind of
antisemitism through the, the old ways of, of, you know, stereotyping and shit like that.
What I'm saying is she's about to go super sane. Okay. Which by the way, when she was
doing this, when she was going super sane style antisemite, she was doing it to like
100,000 people watching as well and to a legion of adoring fans. Let's take a look and fraction every word
I don't like and every time my feelings are hurt
Because what you really believe in is
Bal Barathe
That's what that's what your people believe in you believe that you are contract lords and that like
When
Obviously most Americans are tuned into hearing your people and perking up a little bit being like what do you mean your people?
She's saying Jews believe that they're contract lords. They're lords of the contract
Okay, and then she also said Balbarith which I have never heard and I thought I had a PhD in racism
I didn't even know what the fuck that was that was new for me. I still don't know what that is
Like when you start using like RPG terminology, I feel like we are so lost in the sauce
us. Okay. I don't know if she made that up, or if she saw that somewhere, maybe heard it
from someone else and like misunderstood what they were saying. Ancient Canaanite God. Law
like Google did is one of the early gods of the covenant. Yeah. Remember, tell tale sign.
tell sign that someone is not very mentally well in their pathological obsession with a
specific minority, a specific group of people is when they teach you new things about your
background because I'm sure there's plenty of Jews in here right now who are finding
out things that Candace Owens is telling the Jewish Hassanabi heads in this chat right
now about Judaism. Okay, this is shit that is not entry level at all. It is so insane.
You went down Indiana Jones style to the catacombs and dusted off the tomes of ancient styles
of anti-Semitism. Okay, you are leveling up your elo right now simply by encountering
the deeply researched, Euro-style anti-Semitism
that Canada's always dropping.
People are not allowed to violate contracts,
so you will ruin them for years.
You fire someone and you effectively stalk
and harass them for years after.
I'm here to let you know that I'm done with it.
I am done with it.
This one is so fully off of the mother effing plantation,
truly Ben Shapiro, fuck you,
and the midget horse that you rode in on.
And I say that on behalf of the world.
I know you're gonna get applauded by Constantine Kissit.
Dude, dude, dude, this guy's still locked in.
Look, well, seriously, why are people considered as bad
when they use the R word, but at the same time,
they're not allowed to feel attacked or discriminated
when they're called lip-tarded or whatever.
Tarded sounds a bit hypocritic to me.
Dude.
It is, it is hypocritical, okay?
I'm a bad person.
I love saying slurs.
Please move on, okay?
move on. We're watching Candace Owens to an audience of 2 million people find new unimaginable
ways of saying that like Jews are genetically predisposed to locking people in the contracts
and you're over here being like, I don't feel too good when people tack on the word
You're parted at the end of liberal, okay?
Like dial in, man, dial in.
Lock in, please.
Ah.
Please.
And and Andrew Christ is king of clave and and all of the people great Hanukkah stream
I mean this is I'm sure she knows a I'm sure she's figured out a an anti-semitic way
Meaning behind the you know, menorah or Hanukkah too. She'll get to that. I suspect all the men
episode
Plotting what you do like you're a four-year-old to make you feel good, but the rest of the world can't stand you
You're obnoxious. You have
Absolutely no values that exist outside of the Talmud. You describe yourself as a Talmudic Jew
And I've learned what's in that Talmud and I encourage other people. That's when you that's a
When you instantly know someone is about to say some fuck shit, okay?
Outside of the context of like some kind of rabbi
If anybody
Especially like not a Jewish person like a non Jewish person is is about to tell you about the Talmud just know
You're in for a fucking crazy ride. Okay? I
Like that we went from I don't like Ben Shapiro because he fucked me over
After I said correct things about Israel too. Well, this is how all Jews are they lock you into contracts
some ancient canna night God and now she's about to pull a book out and
There is I
I mean the the shit that she is launching into here is insane. Okay people at home to learn
What is in that Talmudsch that you know what Ben thinks of you because it doesn't just hate me
Yeah, the the copy of Talmudic Jew food you describe yourself as a Talmudic Jew
And I've learned what's in that Talmud and I encourage other people at home to learn
That's crazy. That's a crazy screenshot. Okay
How the fuck do we get here, man? This is the most popular political commentator in the North American continent, okay?
All of these anti-Semitism experts and none of them seem to understand what the Talmud actually is.
They think it's like the Bible, but it's actually a 2000 year long Reddit thread of rabbis debating different ideas. Exactly.
Exactly. And it blows my mind, and I know for a fucking fact.
I know for a fucking fact that Candace Owens has been around plenty of Jews. Okay, so she knows this is bullshit
She knows this is not like a real. I know that because David Horowitz is
Perhaps one of the most responsible figures for Candace Owens's career early on
I know for a fact that you know, Ben Shapiro, Jeremy Boring, there are plenty of Jewish people that she has
literally
Worked alongside of there are plenty of Jewish people that have given her a career. Okay, so she knows
This is bullshit. She knows this is not like a commanding principle for any any Jewish person whatsoever. Okay
The moment that you start talking about like
The the moment that you start talking about like the Talmudic Jew or the Talmud and it's it's a
motivating principle for all Jews is I mean, especially as someone who has been around Jewish evil, you know better
Okay, you know that that's not the case
You're just fucking lying to your audience that live in North Dakota and have never encountered a Jewish person and
Causing them to freak out and assume that like all Jews think you know Goyer cattle or whatever the fuck
That's it
It's like operating under the principle that all all
all Christians are like Candace Owens ironically enough, or all Christians are like the whisper
of Baptist church or some shit. Over 70% of the Talmud isn't even dedicated to anything
Jews should do in real life. It's just theoretically how to do temple stuff if the temple ever
comes back. That's not an exaggeration. Yes, it's also not even supposed to be
like interpreted or guided. It's not even supposed to be like guiding principles in any
way shape or form. It's just supposed to be interpreted by rabbis and debated over by route.
It's just a debate book. It's a book about debate. And of course, if you're debating
shit 2000 fucking years ago, there's going to be some weird shit that you're debating.
Okay, there's going to be weird shit because people were debating weird shit 2000 years
ago, okay? Assuming, looking at that with today's eyes and being like, well, this is obviously
the most important fucking document for the modern Jewish person and how they guide themselves
is psychotic. Anyway, everybody does this stuff. They do it. Given my Muslim background,
I I see it so frequently about Islam and what Islam means and what Islam is supposed to represent
Uh, I've talked about this before as a person who grew up in Turkey
Um, who's never really been like a like a firmly committed Muslim in any way shape or form
But like coming to america I learned about tequila for the first time not from muslims, but instead from a racist white
Islamophobic dipshit
Who accused me of doing taqiyyah and I was like what the fuck is that even what are you talking about and
It I learned that it's about lie. It's lying, but Muslim style
Okay
It's Muslim style lying
When Muslims lie to hide how religious they actually are to do a
You know infiltration of the Western world
Which is not even the original
Way that it existed
It was for, uh, yeah, it's a medieval Shia concept. Shia can lie about being Shia to avoid
Sunni persecution. That's what it, that's where it originates from. But, uh, in the Western
world, they mean like any Muslim, anyone of Muslim background is lying about being Muslim,
like lying about not being religious in an effort to infiltrate Western side and destroy
it.
in that Tal Muj that you know what Ben thinks of you because it doesn't just hate me he hates
you too, white man.
Yeah, example of type of shit that Thomas spends pages on.
A sleeping man is not acquired as Yovama, as he did not intend to perform the act of intercourse
at all.
Rather the mission was referring to the one who was inserted into his Yovama by accident,
but didn't Rabbi say one who fell from a roof and was inserted into a woman due
to the force of his fall is liable to pay for the five types of indemnity that
must be paid by one who damaged another. Injury, pain, medical cause, laws of livelihood. Like,
yeah, this dude, it's so funny. It's so fucking funny that this is literally like,
that that classic clip of a guy calling into an imam during Ramadan and being like,
like, sir, what if a piece of shawarma fell into my mouth while I was fasting during Ramadan?
This is just that, but Jewishly from 2000 years ago.
And motherfuckers are sitting around being like, well, this is clearly the most important
commanding document that any Jewish person could lead into as a way that they designed
their world.
It's literally that.
It's this.
It's that in text and from like 2,000 years ago.
Sheikh Li'um Bil Ghulatou, I had to ask you a short, mazma Al-Garot Hania.
And I'm with him and a slice of animal.
You're my 3 liters of water. Should I keep fasting?
Or was it Allah who has fed me?
It's just bullshit. Like it's not a real commanding or guiding text. It's a way to make it seem
like there is something super indecent and insincere here that Jews are keeping from you.
Okay, that's all it is
And if you have any Jewish friends, you would already know that
Unless you're already fucking maximum anti-stimatic and you think that they'll lie to you
And he hates all black people. Okay, if he's following the rules of the Talmud
I mean when I say hates they think that we're animals
That they have a right to own us that they have a right to make us worship them that they have a right to lie to us
that they have a right to sue us and take everything that we have, that they have a right to deceive us,
that they have a right to treat Charlie the way that he treated Charlie while he was alive,
only to then try to defraud the population into thinking that he is somehow a part of his legacy,
that he somehow cared about Charlie Kirk and
cares to protect the people that are working at Turning Point USA.
Goodbye, Ben.
Good-bye.
Question is, how much more money is Ben Shapiro going to spend to make people think that he's popular?
How many more articles is his father going to write under a pen name, Hank Barion of The Daily Wire, under the pen name, Hank Barion,
as he wrote while Ben was at Breybart before he turned his back and betrayed them too, because that is his nature.
It's one of these belly creatures sliver on.
The question is, how many more weeks and years do we have to keep pretending like Ben Shapiro
is relevant?
It's an open-ended question.
Of course, what followed Ben Shapiro on stage is somebody who Charlie Kirk loved very much
and who he fought for to the very end against the Jewish donors who were pressuring him,
some of them because Ben Shapiro insisted that they do.
listen to a Tucker Carlson had to say when he hit the stage.
The prediction that, you know, at some point when Republicans took power again, which I
did everything I could, you know, to help and really felt that was important, I still
think, you know, I was right.
But I really thought that the impulse to de-plathe-
She's doing biblical era anti-Semites, that was crazy.
Yeah.
the or or maybe she's doing Roman era anti-Semitism the thing is if Candace
Owens just kept a shitting on Ben Shapiro you know there is like I'm I'm
right there with you but she doesn't just shit on Ben Shapiro she ties it
back to all Jews are like this she ties it back to the fucking Talmud about
how she started reading the copy of Talmudic Jew and now Jews are contract
lords and Jew this, Jew that. Like it's just fucking insane. The problem,
however, is that the environment is so,
the environment is so primed for
any sort of candid criticism of a,
a notable Jewish person to turn into, this is how all Jews are.
It is the perfect environment to do this in, if you want to foment anti-Semitic sentiment.
One of my favorite Talmudic debates about capital punishment.
There was a custom where the witnesses of the crime are supposed to push you to your death.
But a rabba asks, what if they lose their hands between the time of the crime and now?
and now they conclude that if the witnesses no longer have hands the criminal gets to live
who amongst us hasn't been in a Jewish court system where this was sincerely followed on obviously this is
It's no different than the way that a lot of white people think like, you know, the
world of Islam operates, right?
Oh, Sharia law, also known as law law, right?
Like, this is what they mean.
They're like, oh, you fucking steal in a Muslim country.
They're gonna cut your hand off.
It's like, no, they're not, you fucking idiot.
What the hell are you talking about?
You're an insane person.
But how do you convince people that that is insane
if so many people legitimately think
that that is what's going on?
If people, if all these people collectively agree
Agree on something that's wrong that it might as well be the truth and the same goes for
anti-semitic
tendencies anti-semitic statements like this and
The environment now is ripe
Especially because as I've often talked about there is there's so much nascent anti-semitism already out there
that oftentimes wasn't even considered to be like
like super critical or bad, you know, like, oh, Jews are in positions of prominence in
American society in industries such as banking and industries such as finance and industries
such as Hollywood, right?
Like, these are the types of things that people have talked about as a common perspective.
But that can turn dangerous very quickly, right?
can turn dangerous very quickly when you decide, well Jews are also monolithic in their understanding
of the world. And the reason why they're in these positions of prominence is to actually
actively undermine the western civilization. That turns into something dangerous and nefarious
if all of a sudden people decide actually Jews are not all that great. And when you
You have an entire apartheid state that is propped up by unlimited tax dollars, running
around and doing unlimited baby murder, and then saying that they're doing it for Jews.
And then you have prominent American Jews running around being like, no, if you fucking
criticize Israel, then you're obviously anti-Semitic and you need to lose your job.
The average American who isn't Jewish, who isn't as invested in Israel is going to look
at that and go, okay, what the fuck?
I guess this is true.
I guess that, you know, all the, all the things that white nations are saying is true.
Look at this, Ben Shapiro is so based.
I've never said that.
I fucking despise Ben Shapiro.
Okay.
The Talmud is the primary surfer Jewish law though, brother.
There is no, there is no significant guiding principle that the average Jewish person abides
by, that they get from the Talmud.
This is just a thing that Nazis talk about.
It's no different than assuming that every Christian actually gets stoned to death if
they mix their fucking fabrics, dummy.
It's no different than assuming that in Islamic law if you steal something from America,
cut your hands off or something.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
Is the foundational things for all modern Judaism?
Okay, we got a Judaism understander in the building.
Oh, yes, you're right.
Every Jewish person you encounter thinks the goer, cattle
and, you know, they can command you
and also Jesus is boiling in excrement
or whatever the fuck people say.
Come on man, you think you're actually encountered a hidden truth right now?
Like when you say shit like this, are you simply trolling or do you unironically just,
you don't even have to answer.
Just ask yourself, do I sincerely believe what I'm saying right now?
Because if you do legitimately sincerely believe what you are saying currently, you are
a fucking baboon, okay?
It's so stupid.
Form people, or even to use the word platform as a verb, which it's not.
It's a noun, don't steal my nouns.
De-platform and denounce, why haven't you denounced somebody else, the whole like
redguard cultural revolution thing that we so hated and feared on the left that we did everything
in turkish scheme you're a brain dead muppet brain dead muppet didi abi inanamıyorum neden abi
söylesene turkish scheme peki
kesin ingiliz uşağım amına kodum amerikan uşağım we could to usher in a new time
where you could have an actual debate.
I mean, this kind of was the whole point of Charlie Kirk's public life.
And I think that, I think that he died for it.
I really believe that.
And I know a lot about it because the last several months of Charlie's life
were devoted in part to arguing about this event, in fact, this speech, in fact, my speech, here.
which he asked me to do earlier this year this summer and was immediately put
under just immense pressure from people who give money to turning point. I would
assume good people, but who wanted him to take me off the roster. And this has
all become public and I, the whole thing is so sad that I never talk about it,
except to say Charlie stood firm in his often stated and deeply held belief
that people should be able to debate and that if you have something valid
to say, if you're telling the truth, you ought to be able to explain it calmly and in detail
to people who don't agree with you and that you shouldn't immediately resort to shut-up
racist.
That is Charlie Kirk's true legacy and that is Charlie Kirk's true friend, just as I
was and am, and will continue to fight and ask questions about who killed Charlie
Kirk and to people that are at home, I implore you to wake up to these people who believe
that they are contract lords, a challenge black Americans to wake up to your true history
because your coral is not with white men. Okay, that's correct. That is the most insane
part of this. Okay. What she's about to say right here is, wake up to who publishes these
books and keeps us warm with one another. Christians versus Christians, right? Christians
versus Muslims. Wake up and learn the true history of slavery. Because that wasn't exactly
she have a black audience at all. Um, I mean, she had a, uh, I think she had a marginal
black audience when she was a daily wire, but now she definitely does. She now has a very
diverse audience, a diverse audience of liberals and even fucking progressives because once
she left the daily wire, she just basically switched entirely to doing like cultural commentary,
cultural critique and she developed an audience of wine moms and yes, now she has a very diverse
audience, an audience of diversity of opinion as well, not just like diverse racially and
ethnic background but very, very diverse audience and she is gearing them towards
saying that Jewish people are responsible for everything, including chattel slavery, which
is a wild thing to say in the United States of America, specifically to black people living
in America.
Actually, a white men sport, okay?
Jewish people were the ones that were trading us.
Jewish people were in control of the slave trade.
They've buried a lot of it, but it's there, and you can find it.
I think all of us need to wake up to this because it's making me absolutely sick
that he is so bold that he dare sit near Charlie Kirk's chair
that he dare grace that stage when Charlie Kirk knew exactly
what Ben Shapiro was and will always be.
So again, on your belly, Ben Shapiro.
We'll be back after a brief break.
All right, you guys.
She said she said Jews are responsible for the slave trade not white people
Wake up black americans
Is jews that did the slave trade and then went here's a commercial break
Preborn donate today at preborn.com slash gandas. That's insane
And then she goes on a tangent about like fort ayahuasca or whatever the fuck
And, you know what's funny is Alex Jones, famous for this video, also has some choice
words on Candace Owens's last round of unlimited, unlimited maximum anti-Semitism.
Jewish mergers made up a tiny fraction less than 2% of the Atlantic slave trade and
And their overall involvement was considered marginal by historians like Jacob Rader Marquez.
Yes.
And same as it is in the United States of America where it was like proportionate to the percentage
of Jewish people, but like ultimately slavery was not controlled by Jews in any way, shape
or form.
It's fucking insane.
It's like saying black tribal leaders were the ones who sold African slaves and therefore
or they are responsible.
It's ridiculous.
It is an entire enterprise that was cooked up
by white people, defended by white people,
and primarily benefited by white people in general.
The entire concept of whiteness is one that was created
as a factor, socially constructed specifically
to justify the enslavement of non-white people,
black people. It's crazy.
You just want to say the British Royal Family is Jewish because of how they even branded the slaves they sold?
I mean, that's like, that's the next level of anti-Semitism when you start inventing like, or when you start doing suspected
the jews list because it's not enough when you just like talk about specific jewish people
then you start saying like well everyone is completely dominated by like a handful of
jewish people or something it's just you know depends on how fucking insane you are
I guess.
Well, yeah, Alex Jones is worried about Candace Owens, and she's, and that she's playing it
fast and loose with the facts.
He says he's coming out with a report to debunk Candace's latest conspiracy theory around
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which involves that evidence of a congressman from
Nevada, Erica Kirk, a daily wire staffer, and Charlie Kirk's head of security meeting
at a U.S. military base the day before Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
Because most of you that pay attention know, I am not here to help police.
I don't invite, I don't try to focus on what other people are theorizing about or doing.
I try to focus on what I'm doing.
And so it's with a heavy heart that I am forced to put out another report either tonight
or tomorrow morning.
We're adding a lot of information right now, a lot more research dealing with Candice
Owens.
Another person who in many respects is responsible for the rise of Candace Owens because he single-handedly...
Someone came into the Discord that was a long time sub and said that you were being too harsh on Candace and that she was uncovering some truths not trolling who had a real Candace Exishon viewer.
We permabanned them, of course. Oh my god. Hello.
Hello, Kyle.
I won't lie.
He looks healthy here, much less exploding tomato.
Oh, look, what I'm trying to say is, Alex Jones developed an entire market for Candace
Owens to basically thrive in, okay, and now he's upset.
And in some ways, it almost feels identical to like Nick Fuentes the other day complaining
that Candace Owens is stealing the anti-Semites from him by coming up with even more far-fetched
conspiracies about how Jews are responsible for this or that. And all I have to say to that is,
you know, you guys made this, you guys made this environment. So good luck, have fun, you know.
Just as soon as the whole Egyptian plane thing gets debunked with all the facts,
now she's moving something else and I'm really worried about her. I'm worried about her
and her mind, and I'm also worried about the country where this is going.
It's good to question Charlie Kirk's assassination. I have big questions we know
catch up covered up and investigation to accomplish this.
I broke that I'm up for it to make for news. So I'm not saying no question,
but her latest source and what she's done, implicated in the U.S. military
and all this other stuff is just so damaging when you go investigate it,
it's so crazy. And just like with the Egyptian place,
she says she has the metadata. Then who else used to do that, Alex?
I have the documents. I mean, come on, man. Come on, man.
Kind of feels like you're just pissed that she's biting your,
she's just ripping your shit.
I have the documents. Ladies and gentlemen,
I'm at a black side in a female facility right now.
Under round Barack Obama has brought black helicopters into my neighborhood.
Alex shows.com and forwards.com. Make sure you can make sure you take
your blue-eyed down pills before you hear what I'm about to tell you.
It's a very, it's a matter of utmost importance, ladies and gentlemen.
I have the documents.
I got the data from inside our sources.
You guys know I have, I have inside our sources.
It's on the record.
And now Candace is doing the same shit and all of a sudden he's mad.
And when she did publish it and they got fact checks, it wasn't accurate.
Candace almost comes out of the anti-Semitic Highlander and all of a sudden everyone turns into a fucking debunker. Okay, what is happening?
All these dank and all these dank conservatives there. They're mad that she's doing conspiracy theories wrong, okay?
Maybe they're going a little too crazy with the conspiracy theories. There's a there's a limit to it
But, you just doubled down again with something even more absurd, and I hate watching destroyers
stuff like this.
We'll be covering it all with the reports coming out at Real Ox Jones on Dyson Rumble
and then FullWars.com.
and more.com, AlexJones.com. Yeah. And now, understandably, everyone is saying,
Alex is now for the 10th time as you're being accused of getting the call,
a compromise by Israel Jews are getting paid up by neo-nazis, other types of Jew haters,
except Alex Jones did get the boss call, not from the Jews, but from Donald Trump.
Alex Jones is, this is Alex Jones's nightmare, I assume, or the greatest moment in his career,
Where as I have said time and time again, this is the moment where Alex Jones could be single-handedly the most important man in American politics
Okay for decades. This motherfucker talked about
These these pedophilic elite. Okay
Oh pedophilic elite is the massage operation
You know, as you know, 9 11 is a massage operation is a pedophilic elite that's trying to get the americans to go the wage war on their behalf
Alex Jones dot com and fours dot com
They're all doing pedophilia. They're doing sacrificial. They're doing child sacrifice
I've seen it will mount who has it went to the bohemian Grove. Okay, all this stuff and now you got like
But as close to physical evidence as you can get and the average American is tuned into that
And he's over here being like and you know, it's all a deep-stake conspiracy to undermine my big beautiful president Donald Trump
How the fuck
How the fuck did you get here?
You did all the fucking guesswork, you did all the prep work, you designed your entire commentary history around this pivotal issue.
And now, the dude that you encounter at the cash register is totally tapped in to this mindset.
And there is like hard evidence that suggests some of the things that you were saying were literally valid.
It was real.
Okay.
And now you're fucking running around trying to cast doubt
Trying to fucking cast doubt on your entire life's ambition
It's awesome
It's fucking hilarious and now he's mad
He's mad that can't is always is stealing his thunder. So he's got a he's got to get in there and you know
Talk some sense into these guys
But yeah, that's the, uh, that's the Canada's own story. Uh, she's lost his damn mind. I
think, uh, or I mean, she's, you know, she is, uh, really, really leaning heavily into
the anti-Semitism stuff. Um, also here's Brian Tashman. It says, good reminder that
Benjamin hired Canada's owns after, after her pro hitler remarks, only denouncing
and firing her after her anti-Israel remarks. This is partly a story about conservatives
creating a monster they can't control. Owens, after all, has been saying nutty things for
a long time. In 2019, she left her job as a communications director for Turning Point.
Not long after arguing that Hitler's real sin was globalism, not nationalism. If Hitler
just wanted to make Germany great, she said it would have been fine. Rather than ostracize
her, powerful conservative organizations cultivated her. Republicans invited her to testify
before Congress about why white nationalism wasn't a problem. In 2020, Daily Wire,
by Ben Shapiro. Hired her. Is real. They made her into who she is. Every single person that's
coming after her right now played a formative role in her development, in her career. Okay.
Okay?
Jezon, next year Candace was right. Come on. Come on big dog. Let's be real here. Okay?
There's an entire world
between
Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset of the CIA and most likely of the Mossad
that was working on an international blackmailing conspiracy
versus every Jew has downloaded a copy of the Talmud and follows every single
thing in the Talmud to a T in their day-to-day existence which implies that
all the Goyim are cattle that must be dominated and that Jews are collectively
destroying Western civilization. Okay I feel like there's a little bit of a
difference there don't you think one is you know rooted within facts the
The other one is a psychotic hallucination, often targeting back to some of the darkest
chapters of European history.
I've always been uncompromising on two things, that I will combat anti-Semitism, I will actively
fight back against it, as I do against all forms of hate, and I am anti-genocide and
an anti-Zionist.
Okay?
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, then there's this kind of shit, yeah, Mark Living going up on stage in the Hanukkah
event and being like, Donald Trump is a real Jew, he's the first Jewish president.
Congratulations to Nick Plantas and Ken Hisohans, who just netted about $500
thousand new subscribers are they any adults left in the room the white houses
actively inflaming the rights anti-semitism crisis yeah they're burning the
candle on both ends to know that it's not a menorah pun okay they quite literally
are burning the candle on both ends on the one hand they're doing shit like that
on the other hand they're actively going how much of this anti-sema how
much of the the new wave of anti-semitism has grown in the young
Republican right, can we actively bring into the conversation? Can we actively take advantage
of? On the one hand, they're leaning into psychotic conspiracy theories, you know, with
Miriam Adelson going up on stage and being like, I'm going to give you another 250 million
if you run again, you know, because you've been so good and so loyal to Israel. And
Mark Levin is talking about how Donald Trump is the first Jewish president.
And then on the other hand, they're like, yeah, you know, a lot of these anti-Semites,
I mean, they could be very reliable allies alongside ourselves in this cause, I think.
And then it's also made worse by the fact that every single supposedly liberal pro-Israel
institution that masquerades as Jewish advocacy groups that are supposed to be
combating anti-Semitism are literally locked in on Zoramumdani so there is
literally no one out there who is just turning around and being like all of this
is fucking crazy can we just take a deep breath what the fuck is going on
there's like there's not a single fucking group out there dude they're
too busy the ADL's too busy yelling a fucking Jewish voice for pieces or
I'm not even people like myself they even
Talk about any of this shit that's going on
It's sometimes unironically. I do feel like there is you know a thousand total people
That actually still actively give a fuck about anti-semitism that want to like combat it
They want to actually stop
The the growth of anti-semitism and every single one of them is getting myself included is getting fucking yelled at
by not only the ADL but also all these other like supposed Jewish advocacy
groups and also getting yelled at by the fucking Republicans who on the one hand
are shaking hands with Nick Fuentes we're trying to figure out how they can
incorporate Nick Fuentes into their fucking movement while simultaneously
talking about the real anti-Semitism is coming from the anti-Zionist left
which includes anti-Zionist Jews it's fucking crazy what are we doing where
Where do you think this is going to go?
Is the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee, commonly known as APAC, is them being in America
and not registered with Pharah like all other lobbying groups in America.
Is that America first?
Is it America first for Senators, Congress, and even our president to take money from
APAC?
Is it?
Like, can you imagine what he said right there?
I know that contextually you're like, oh, this is a Tucker Carlson fan.
He's obviously fucking, you know, possibly anti-Semitic or whatever.
What he said right there is not wrong, okay?
It's true.
Israel, APEC, and all other Israel advocacy groups should be treated as foreign lobbyists,
okay?
But they're not.
In the United States of America, they're not.
Part of that is because they can just say, oh, you don't understand, these are institutions
primarily tasked with like defending Israel's interests, obviously, and even writing legislation
in the United States of America, but their major donors are Americans. They're American
Jews and American Christians. So obviously this is not the same. Like, wow, how could
you actually, how could you actually say that this is a foreign advocacy organization?
Well, the reason why it's a foreign advocacy organization is because it's primarily
tasked with defending Israel. It has nothing to do with fucking American Jews at all.
Or America at all. It has everything to do with Israel, okay? That's why it's
a fucking foreign advocacy organization. If every Chinese American person was first
foremost primarily tasked with defending the interests of China. I'm pretty sure many people would
have questions about whether or not, you know, whatever kind of like a Chinese advocacy group would be
a get hit with a fucking Farrah restriction. Okay. It wouldn't even be a question. You can't
even have fucking Confucius schools and Confucius isn't this goddamn country without scrutiny.
It's crazy.
Mohan Fokker is talking about how Chinatown is actually doing infiltration,
but then when it comes to Israel, it's all fun, okay, it's all good.
So what he's saying is not wrong, but what's really frustrating about this is that there is no
like unified democratic response that if the Democrats were defined by also this principle,
If the Democratic Party was defined by not allowing any sort of Israeli intervention or
Israeli influence in American politics, all of those people would probably be led back
into a position of normalcy.
But right now they're left rudderless.
And when the people that are captivating their attention are people like Candace
Owens, not only are they rudderless, but they move down in the direction of anti-Saharan
anti-Semitism, instead of actually having a unified response to Israel's unlimited bloodshed,
Israel's unlimited violence, Israel's unlimited demands of not only loyalty but also tax dollars,
okay? Instead of being directed towards a unified vision against Israel, these people in the
void that is left by the democrats
are led to believe that this is just a jewish conspiracy
this is what's very frustrating about this process
america first to take money from a foreign lobby so you'll send taxpayer
dollars to that country
uh... you know even the question kind of answers itself obviously it isn't
and that's not an attack on israel it's really not anti-semitism despite
the efforts of many to claim that it is, it's just an obvious statement.
And the fact that people are attacked for asking the question, this is something that I talked
to Charlie a lot about in his final months, because he was being attacked as an anti-Semite
for asking that question.
And we'd memory hold that, but I was there, so I saw it.
That's not the right way.
Don't attack people's motives.
And I have a lot to attack people's motives.
I'm trying to remind myself, don't do that.
Respond to what they're saying.
And so, no, of course it's not.
And it's totally fine to ask about why a foreign government tried to sink one of our ships
in 1967.
That doesn't make you an anti-Semite, sorry.
Those are Americans who died.
And by the way, yeah, whatever.
Anyway, but the point is, no, of course not.
And that's why they won't have the conversation.
And my point is, you know, I'm 56, my kids are grown.
I'm just not afraid of you at all.
I don't hate you or anyone else.
I love this country.
I'm going to be here until I die.
I have an absolute God-given right to ask these questions.
And I'm going to keep doing that, period.
And you can shoot me or put me in jail.
But the questions won't go away.
So no, of course it's not.
And that's why they respond with like rage and shame, because you caught him doing something
that can't defend, duh?
If you don't want Tucker Carlson to be the guy leading this fucking charge, to be the
guy who can present himself as an earnest voice in this battle, you have to have more
voices.
It's that simple.
You can't, you can't overwhelmingly be disinterested in addressing this issue, okay?
And I mean the Democrats.
You can't ever find yourself getting outflanked by Marjorie Taylor Greene in Congress.
If you're a Democrat, that is a deep shame.
You have to speak up because Tucker Carlson doesn't just talk about Palestinians and the
humanity of Palestinians.
He also will consistently take all of the newfound confidence and the newfound credibility
as an outspoken individual in this cause, and he will redirect people's priorities
and attention back to other things that he cares about at the domestic level like white
genocide happening, and how, you know, third world migrants are coming in to destroy this
country. That is fucking terrifying. It's very frustrating.
it. Here's a clever reaction that talks about pussies and the crowd holds it.
We're also called, and I have to say this before opening it up to your hostile questions,
we should also be very on guard against people who try to leverage the word of God,
words of Jesus for political ends. That is, yeah, I mean, that's, that's the worst crowd
to do that at, man, you're at the fucking Amara Fest. That's like, that's the number
one thing that conservatives do. Do you know what crowd you're in? This is the, the,
the thing that conservatives organize around, masquerading their hatred for others that
don't look like them or sound like them, the fears that they have, the tribalistic attitudes
that they have under the auspices of God, being godly, being Christian, that's, you know, no
hate like Christian love, Tucker. I mean, you've done that. Very interesting that he would
be criticizing this incredibly important aspect of conservative organizing, very, very strange.
that is a dangerous thing to do. I don't want to do that. And I attempt every
time it's all sort of new to me. I'm so obviously not a great Christian that it's
it's not like a lot of people are gonna be like oh I want to be like him. But there
are people, particularly Christian ministers I have noticed, who are preaching
a political message and pretending that it's the Gospel. So let me just say, and I think
my theology is right, I'm hardly a theologian, God is not on any country's side. Certain
c-
Again, that's not- ooh, you can't be saying that in that room. Come on, bro. God is
on America's side. What do you mean? God is on America's side, Tucker. The fuck
you're talking about. What are you on?
Countries can decide to be on God's side, and that is true for people too. Okay? God
doesn't have a partisan affiliation, he doesn't have a nationality, and if someone is telling
you otherwise, that is just not true. It is not true. And I would also call your attention
to the very obvious prohibitions in the New Testament against killing the innocent.
We are not as Christians allowed to kill the innocent, period.
We are not.
And you see a labyrinth?
It's almost like he's a new Tucker, man.
It's like I fucking, like virtually every part of his career leading up to this moment
is rendered ineffective, useless.
Unless he means every migrant, every non-white migrant, is not innocent, they've done a crime.
And they could be killed.
Or at the very least deported, right?
Is that what it is?
Get it?
The joke is if you don't hate Muslims, you are one.
This is very funny to people whose parents wouldn't let them read Harry Potter's children's
favorite TV shows, Veggie Tales. Oh yeah. Tarkarosa interrupts speech for evening prayer to Mecca.
Yeah, Babylon B is coming after him.
It arguments on behalf of doing so or ignoring it. It feels like politics on both sides are
losing control of their bases. Yes, because liberalism is failing in both parties. Both
major parties in the country are liberal. There is however one major party, the Republican
party that is currently moving in the direction of an illiberal party, a post-liberal party,
whatever you call it, a fascist party, okay? Whereas the other one is actively closing their
eyes, plugging their ears, going, la, la, la, la, you're so stupid, liberalism is not failing,
we will fix it, we will restore liberalism. That's my fear.
That is my fear. They think at a time when it's very obvious that the entire liberal
capitals world, and it didn't even take 100 years for this project to fucking fall apart
once again, when, just like it did in the period of the early 1900s, 1920s, when liberalism
fell apart and from the ashes of liberalism came fascist coalitions, okay, and maybe,
I guess American social democracy that partnered with communism to defeat the fascist movements
in World War II.
After the period of the Cold War, it accelerated the minds of liberalism because there was
no other polar opposite world view that America had to fight against, there was no threat of
an alternative example, and the maximum growth, maximum prosperity, late-stage capitalism
that we saw from the 90s early on, from 90s all the way until right now, has collapsed
liberalism once again, greatly accelerated the demise of liberalism.
Yes, the end of history was not here as Francis Fukuyama thought it would be.
I mean, he even he understands that, even he recognizes that now.
But my point is, it's over.
It's not working.
People are recognizing that it's not working.
So, we have to figure out quickly how to organize against the, in the parliamentary system, fascist parties gaining a lot of popularity.
And in the American system, when there's two major parties, both liberal, one of the two major liberal parties is very quickly turning into a fascist one.
And I fear it'll be too late by the time there are enough adults in the room on the, you know, the anti-fascist side to figure out what is taking place.
Oh, that always happens in war. Well, you're right. One of the reasons I'm not that into wars. But when it does happen unavoidably, we have to say that's wrong.
We have to say that. We have to acknowledge that was wrong.
And I'm sorry for the extent to which I participated in it.
Forgive me. Because killing people who committed no crime is immoral.
It will always be immoral. And people who do it will be punished for it.
And nations that endorse it will be punished for it.
That's a fact. And you are seeing now, you are seeing now a very intense effort.
effort to convince you otherwise. Oh, it's fine. They deserved it. Really? Do their children
deserve it? If a man commits a crime, do we kill his kids? I don't care if it's in Minneapolis
or Gaza City. No, we don't. And if we do accidentally, we say, I am so sorry that we
murdered someone who did nothing wrong because it is murder. And to see Christian pastors
make excuses for that is one of the most, and that's not a partisan question. That
That is not a political question.
That is the only question that matters.
Do we have the right to murder people?
And the resounding answer that Christianity provides us is, no.
I don't get into the whole debate, you know, dispens- I don't even- I didn't know the
terms dispensationalist, you know, or whatever, replacement the- I'm going to piss Coppalean,
okay?
I don't enter these debates.
Or was.
The theology is super simple. I like to be attitudes, right? I'm yesterday. I'm not trying to be the woke of the week
But why the fuck are we platform is dickhead he's slightly less toxic and gross and measured for our canons owns
But the problem is that the man on the screen believes in murdering everyone if they step out of line. What do you mean?
It's because he's one of the most
consequential
right-wing
Commentators in the country
This is the platform. We're simply observing what is going on on the right-wing side.
That's Tucker Carlson, Chatter. You know, he, like, talks to the vice president on the phone when he feels like it, right?
He's currently in this video talking on the stage, at the main stage on the first night at the Turning Point USA conference.
I happen to believe that he might be the next Republican candidate for the presidency.
This is not platforming.
We're simply watching.
This is the platform we're watching from afar.
That's number one.
Number two, we're watching it for a very specific purpose because there is a
serious
level of infighting taking place in the right right now I
Actually think was it Michael reading them some of them here I
Think any person any honest person says the essence of the Christian faith and
Killing tens of thousands of children and then making excuses for it on behalf of a foreign government is not in there
It's anathetical to that.
Sorry.
It doesn't make me a hater.
It makes me the opponent of hate.
It's not that I've alienated most of the crowd
with my staunch position.
I'm telling you, man, he consistently
presents himself as a reasonable voice.
And I think he's actually utilizing
a lot of the more conspiratorial elements
on the right right now, like he has a lot of prestige, okay?
He is the actual connective tissue between the conspiratorial right, the anti-Semites,
and also establishment Republicans.
He comes from that background, he has the pedigree, and I think he would be the true
spiritual successor to Donald Trump if there was anyone who could maintain the MAGA base
And the rest of the Republicans, it's Tucker Carlson.
As the most effective propagandist, do you think he actually has a chance to turn the
evangelical psychos and what would become his target then?
He's a fascist at the end of the day.
I think he has, I mean, I don't know how sincere these guys are with their ambitions
to make America a white nation state, right?
Like a fascist white nationalist state that is devoid of all people that they've declared
brown unless they're just like, I don't know, working in a slave, like working in a slave camp or something, right?
Except if you listen to Tucker, he says there's 65 million migrants in the country that must be forcibly excised.
And that number is actually the number of Hispanic Americans if we're being real. So he is, he is very, very terrifying.
But the thing is, he's always been very good at making normal people listen to him, okay?
If you think like Nick Fuentes seems good in short bursts, right?
And he's capable of like capturing the attention of liberals and progressives and stuff with
some of the things that he says when he criticizes Donald Trump or some of the things that
he says when he's you're shitting on his own audience or whatever. And I see that a lot.
I see more and more liberals posting like Nick Fuentes thinking, Oh, well, you know, I don't
really agree with this guy, but he's really nailed it on this one. Right. I see stuff
like this and I hold on let me see if I can find that one clip I was looking at this guy
Bill Madden look at this this guy Bill Madden I think to keep singer songwriter musician
here for social and climate justice, preventing a Trump dictatorship post this, and it's all liberals
responding to him. Sometimes the messenger of truth is not who we chose, but fuck it.
Nick Fuentes just took a blowtorch to the losin' piece of shit. Well Fuentes has to say about
this repulsive, disgusting excuse of a human being is spot fucking on. These are liberals, man.
These are straight up fucking liberals. They're seeing like Nick Fuentes,
Torch Donald Trump or whatever and then they're like, oh, that's so sick
He's so sick dudes with like social justice and climate justice in their bios
Posting Nick Fuentes uninterrupted for nine minutes
If you think that's bad Tucker Carlson is so much better than Nick Fuentes because he has
because he has like 20, 30 years of experience in the field,
you will never catch Tucker Carlson go beyond the line
of permissible bigotry, especially in his commentary.
I've been covering Tucker Carlson for what?
Like the past 10 years.
And the only way you can catch him
by matching his commentary side by side with prominent white nationalists.
He won't say the slurs, and he will always bring back his commentary to a common-sense perspective.
Tucker Carlson is much better propaganda than Nick Flentes is, even if their worldview is
is like damn near identical to one another.
Tucker Carlson is very good at making it seem
like his position is like the commonly held position.
He's very good at, for example,
making an argument against strangers.
He'll always talk about the family.
America is a family.
It's a family that I love.
And you don't want strangers to come into your family.
When he's talking about that,
actually talking about migrants. He'll say stuff like, if you couldn't understand your
wife, if your wife spoke a different language, that would be quite difficult, right? So why
is that appropriate for your nation? Like he always, he has a way of taking established
supremacist talking points and and putting them through this like pro-
American Christian filter. He will always soften very dangerous ideas that's why
okay stop dick writing we get it what what is what about what I've just said
is dick-riding. I'm saying he is, in essence, one of the most dangerous, if not the most dangerous,
white nationalist propagandists in the country. So dangerous that most people don't even recognize
that he's a white nationalist and will literally actively debate me on this. People who fancy
themselves to be progressive, like at least with Nick Fuentes, you know he's a Nazi because
he said it, he said Hitler is based, right? Tucker Carlson is never going to entertain
that kind of edgy commentary even even in uh you know even in like his weakest moments he's not
gonna fucking lean into that right because he knows that that's poison now if the environment changes
so dramatically as it is currently he might entertain it down the line
But as it stands, when most Americans still, most Americans who even personally find themselves
in agreement with, you know, neo-Nazi ideals will still, when they shy away from the moniker,
okay?
Okay, Tharger Carlson will never, never lean into that.
Until it's perfectly permissible for him to do so.
So that's why I think he's the most dangerous.
And that's why I think he's getting a lot of prestige
And a lot of confidence from a much more diverse audience than than we think with all of this,
all of his like pro-Palestine advocacy.
If Trump can win over Dearborn despite Muslim ban, Trump, Tucker can do so much more, you're
right.
He's scary, dude.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Law, you guys called the burnt peanut a fascist? Who is you guys?
I don't know anything about the burnt peanut.
The fuck are you talking about?
I love that people just like, invent shit.
And we'll just go along with it and be like, nah, this is what you believe.
You just ask me what I believe. What the fuck are you talking about?
The fuck is a burnt peanut?
I'm talking about Tucker Carlson's motherfucker came in and we're like, well, remember when
you said the burnt peanut was a fascist the fuck?
God damn.
The burnt peanut is the Tucker Carlson steam tag?
Yeah.
Relevant banning clips.
Benji Shapiro.
Oh yeah, he cooked Ben.
I was gonna cover this as well.
Now Benji Shapiro sat up here last night
and he was all, you know, it's all about the truth.
Ben, I know you're in a long time, brother.
You can't handle the truth.
Let's face it, Ben Shapiro is the farthest thing from MAGA.
Let's be blunt.
He is a hardcore Debra Trumper.
He's a-
How's this guy get to Beyonce after all the Jeffery Hebson stuff?
Brother, understand, the greatest super weapon that the conservative movement has
at his disposal is their shamelessness. Okay? They do it as a flex. Like, why the fuck is
Alan Dershow—what does Alan Dershowist bring to the table? Seriously. What the fuck does
Alan Dershowist bring to the table? Why is he constantly on Fox News? Is he charismatic?
Is he poetic?
Is he telegenic?
Is he handsome?
He's got nothing!
So why the fuck is he on Fox News every night?
At a certain point you have to realize like, no, it's just a flex.
It's to train the audience.
It's to condition them that, you know, the Jeffrey Epstein affiliation is not that
significant.
Whatever.
Who gives a fuck?
Okay?
And the same goes for people like Steve Bannon.
They don't care. Conservatives don't care. It is their greatest power. They know, they know that the fucking entire commentary it is comprised of psychopaths and pedophiles and rapists and people who are like outed as sex criminals really, right?
Like Russell Brandt. Insta pivot to Christianity after he's outed as doing sex crimes.
crimes. Beloved figure on the conservative right now. This is their greatest weapon in
general, their shamelessness. They can sit there and constantly engage in hypocrisy-baiting
and constantly attack the left, constantly attack liberals even. And if you turn that
on him at any point to be like, well, fuck, are you talking about no, you boom.
Hardcore never trumpet in the spring of 16. He tried to up in Breitbart. He walked off the
job made a big deal about some incident in Marlago with Corey Lewandowski. He tried to turn it
to Ted Cruz from Donald Trump because he hated Donald Trump and the general election he barely
supported Donald Trump. The first sign of when President Trump gets sent back tomorrow.
Also, Steve Bannon is 100% correct here. Just so we're clear. Like, he is 100% correct
about Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro did do all of those things.
Lago, the very first individual that jumped on the Ron DeSantis train, the Israel first
transit train was Ben Shapiro. And those are the darkest days we had in 21 and 22. You guys
were there. He's consistently been against Trump. And now the president Trump doesn't
back the greater Israel private. What is greater Israel? It's not about Israel itself.
I like that Steve Bannon, by the way, also straight up fucking loves leading into neo-Nazis
fomenting anti-Semitic conspiracies was in charge of bright part. When he was doing this,
Ben Shapiro left Breitbart because, um, the same thing that's happening to Ben Shapiro
right now kind of happened at Breitbart with my Louis Annapolis coming to Breitbart in
2016 and Ben was like, wait a minute. I thought we were hating on everyone but the Jews.
I'm leaving. Like that's literally what happened with Ben Shapiro at Breitbart.
Hold on now. It was cool when they had the black crime tab. Now you have Jewish
crime tab. I don't like it. But, um, that part, that, that part did happen straight up. Look
it up. If you don't believe me. Okay. Well, the Jewish crime thing is not real. They didn't
have a Jewish crime tab, but then did not like that they were being anti-Semitic.
Um, and now the entire movement is anti-Semitic. So he's fucked, but
But Ben and fucking literally will turn it on and off with regular frequency.
One day he's like talking about, he's singing the praise of Israel.
The next day he's talking about how, you know, Jews ain't shit.
And it's so crazy because now he is identified that Donald Trump seemingly is actually putting
The Donald Trump is actually stopping Israel from advancing its greater Israel project like get the fuck out of here, dude
Really? Donald Trump is actually stopping Israel. That's that's what he's doing, huh Steve
Wow
Thank you Donald Trump for stopping the greater Israel project from being implemented
Just wait for another 250 million dollars from Mary Madison and you'll see whether he's invested in stopping the greater Israel project or not
Yeah, he's doing a really bad job at stopping it. This is unironically the same shit that
dumb fuck liberals were saying about, uh, about Joe Biden. Okay. Oh, Joe Biden, he's
doing a red line on Israel guys. Any day now. Oh, you done pissed them off now. Oh,
he's so mad at Benjamin Netanyahu. Meanwhile, Israel's just fucking slaughtering children
with American weapons every single fucking day. Any day now, who's gonna do a red line?
Oh, the Rafa, the Rafa red line, don't cross it, don't cross it. Okay. Well, you crossed it.
I guess we'll just punish you by giving you another $20 billion of weapons.
That's exactly what Donald Trump is doing. And that's exactly what Joe Biden did.
There is no stopping Israel. Okay.
Good luck to this kind of commentary from Steve Bannon. I cannot believe it.
bear. He's consistently been against Trump. And now the president Trump doesn't back the
greater Israel. What is greater Israel? It's not about Israel itself. It's about an expansionist
Israel and it is not about Israel self. It's not about the lines that were were defined
already about Israel, which by the way, can you explain to me what those lines are?
they've crossed it they've crossed far beyond the green line
yeah what's the greater Israel project oh you know Syria which
they're literally inside of currently or a southern Lebanon which they're
inside of currently or the rest of Gaza which they've
taken over 50 percent of or the entirety of the
the West Bank, which they are currently permanently annexing, kind of feels like the Greater Israel
Project is being implemented, don't you think?
It doesn't feel like Donald Trump has stopped the Greater Israel Expansionist project.
As a matter of fact, Donald Trump actually solidified the Greater Israel Project by
moving the embassy to Jerusalem when he was president the first time.
That was a big deal for the Greater Israel Project, as a matter of fact.
Or who could forget when he recognized Golan Heights as permanently annexed territory for
Israel.
That was another expansion of the Greater Israel Project.
So I don't think Donald Trump is against Israel expanding at all as a matter of fact.
And it's not like Donald Trump has presented himself as the stopgap measure against the
Greater Israel Project.
He literally was talking about the Gaza Riviera with AI videos and shit like that.
The fuck do you mean Donald Trump was a great stopper of the great Israel project?
Israel Israel then Netanyahu in that crowd have thought up
Yeah, Trump is such a threat to Israel Mark Levin is going up on the on the Hanukkah event at White House saying he's the first Jewish president
Followed up by Miriam Adelson who's like I'll give you another 250 million if you actually fucking
Run for a third term. Yeah, that's why
No, they're giving they're saying that and they're giving him money because he's the the great Israel annihilator. That's right
And the Israel first crowd is Ben Shapiro
Tel Aviv Mark Levin and many others
That want to put that ahead of America's interests right? Yeah, like listen listen
The only thing stopping a straight-up neo-nazi from dominating all of this stuff at this stage
right now is that every single right-wing grifter and yes this includes
Nick Fuentes as well has a higher ambition of moving up the ranks now that
Charlie Kirk is dead okay if there's only one person that's just been going
balls to the wall is fucking Candace Owens and that's why she's actually
currently dominating that's it did there's never been a better moment to
be an overt anti-Semite I mean look at what he's saying Steve Bannon is
Supposed to be the guy. He's supposed to be the guy. He's supposed to be the anti-Semite and he's over here
Fucking talking about how Donald Trump is really stopping Israel, dude. Really?
Really? He's stopping Israel? Really? Steve?
Hasn't done a good job
Ben is war room Steve Bannon. You can't get a better defender Israel than Charlie Kirk
You can't get a better defender Israel than Steve Bannon at bright part
Adamic couldn't have a two-state, couldn't have a two-state solution to the White House.
I'm the one who pushed initially hard to move the embassy to Jerusalem at the
war room. Ask all the other war room people that are here. Ask all the Posse.
We always talk about it and we're one state, not a two-state, but that's about
Israel. Charlie Kirk has some foundational beliefs. Those foundational
beliefs are number one. He's a populist nationalist. America makes its own
decisions for America and as a populist the American people are the
people that make those decisions. Let's be real. It's not. It was a much better moment
to be anti-Semite in Nazi 1930s, Nazi Germany, not right now. No, this is literal. Okay.
1925, Nazi Germany, you know, that's because that's where we're at. Liberalism is collapsing.
There isn't as much economic turmoil yet, but liberalism is absolutely fucking collapsing.
We're in the beginning stages of like blaming everything on the fucking Jews over and over again
This is 1925 Nazi, you know 1925 Nazi Germany not 1930s
Or not Nazi Germany is a pre-nazi Germany is coming though
There is no failed revolution either. There's no failed socialist revolution. There's no socialist momentum. No socialist movement whatsoever is cooked.
A big difference is that there isn't a huge amount of anti-Semitic academia and pseudoscience being written. But yeah, I mean I don't even think that academia and pseudoscience even has any motion anymore.
I think we've just like moved we've we've we've devolved into a more caveman like understanding of the world anyway
So does academia even have that kind of motion anymore? I?
Think it's it's like there wasn't this level of of mass propaganda
That you can access at the tip of your fingers in the past
Every area where people are getting information from is fucking blaring a
A consistent amount of anti-Semitic propaganda is much more effective in my opinion than fucking academia
They lab when I said mission conservative arguments are now indistinguishable for 90-20 Nazi arguments and yet
Bryce I myself of this one's really funny. I read this I myself am Jewish accessually
I'm Christian by faith, but Jewish by blood. I've actually read Mein Kampf, the end conclusions that he came to, absolutely
abominable, but I strangely understood where he was coming from as far as wanting to improve the national state of Germany.
Does anyone think women should not be allowed to vote? Only Andrew raises his hand.
I just feel like women are very emotional and the politics of man's discipline. I seriously believe it.
My mother actually believes this too, and I know some other women who believe that I just feel like I've never really seen a woman who truly understands politics
Sophie yeah, that might be your issue with finding a good quality girl
Have you ever thought about the fact that a woman's emotions are a beautiful thing and that they might compliment a man and that yes
Maybe we make different decisions because emotions, but if it were just men there would be no reasoning
I think it's a beautiful thing to have both sides
I'm not racist because I have a black friend type shit brother. That's literally like saying I'm not racist because I used to be black
I'm no longer black
But you know
David Duke had some good opinions
What do you mean? It's worse than that. He literally is like I'm Jewish, but I'm Christian now and
Hitler had some good ideas about the Jews honestly. I didn't like the the endpoint of the Holocaust
That's a, that's a full uncle Ruckus.
Yeah, both views about the women voting thing are fucking misogynistic.
Yeah, I know.
National sovereignty Hitler was a nationalist.
He was like, we have to take Germany back for Germans.
And I feel like we should do that in America.
We should take America back for our native population.
So I'm not an expert on Hitler by any means, but as far as nationalism is concerned,
I'm all that. Oh, by the way, the women's shouldn't vote guy is a 20 year old white Christian landscaper
who considers himself very right wing and voted for Trump in 2024, but isn't sure if
he'll vote in the next election. Andrew described himself as a close follower Nick went as in
drove in from rural Tennessee far outside of Nashville to participate in this focus group.
These guys are our co-workers. Oh yeah.
It's it's fucking awesome dude. Yeah, this is this is where we're at. Where is this from? I need to
the, everyone wants to know what Gen Z Republicans think we asked them, which is a terrible idea.
Okay. Participants, Addy, an 18 year old Hispanic Baptist Republican woman attending
college who considers herself very right wing, but did not vote in 2024. Addy walked out
during the middle of the group. Alex, a 28 year old, a white high school graduate who
who works a property manager. He's a non-denominational Protestant.
Ali, a 28 year old white Baptist stay at home mom of two with one more on the way
whose highest level of education is trade school. She is a Republican.
Andrew, a 20 year old white Christian landscaper. We already read that one.
Ashley, a 29 year old white Baptist woman who works as a subcontractor,
renovating homes. She's a high school educated Republican. Hmm.
I'm beginning to notice a trend here with the educational attainment.
Okay. Atticus, a 25 year old white non-denominational Protestant man who
attended some college and works in marketing. He's a Republican. Now, let me tell you something.
It was tremendously beneficial for the modern Republican movement to make sure that education
was completely fucking pay walled. Okay. And inaccessible for large chunks of American
society. It was also a win-win for the colleges that wanted to turn this into a gay hedge
fund for themselves, right? That's basically what college campuses have become now.
like the educational part of the education is actually secondary is just basically a gay hedge fund.
Okay. That's what college is, unfortunately. But obviously, the generational impact of this,
you know, unlimited for profit, unlimited profiteering in institutes of higher learning,
it has obviously created an entire generation of people who are just not very well educated.
It has made the American laborers less educated overall, it's made them more malleable, and it's
very beneficial if you're interested in just duping large swaths of the population.
But it also has made people stupid. I don't know how else to describe it. It's just like,
it's made people dumber.
And this is the product because there is a I think there's a comfortable middle ground between like
not too much education and and no education whatsoever and when you fucking rip out the
public education structure as well for the exact same reasons when you basically destroy
public education K through 12 and then you make it inaccessible for people to
get a higher degree all of a sudden you've made your entire population too
fucking stupid and at first they were malleable at first they were easier to
control but when they become a little too stupid when they go beyond the
malleable level of stupid the perfect stupid barrier like the perfect stupid
middle ground. Now they're not exactly controllable either. They just make up their own minds.
You know, we're there. We're nearing that level of stupidity where everyone is surrounded
by other stupid and think, of course, we're all stupid. This is just how we're supposed
to go.
Price, a 24 year old white Baptist man,
he attended some college previously working in security.
He's now self-employed as a writer,
working primarily on a Star Wars YouTube channel.
He's an independent who voted for Trump in 2024.
That's the guy who is a Jewish ancestry,
who said he read Mein Kampf and was like, yeah, I get it.
How much you want to bet?
He fucking hates how woke Star Wars is.
Kaleb, white 29 year old Baptist Republican who completed a bachelor's degree and works
at IT trainer for an EV charger manufacturer.
Yeah, judging by how things are going, I suspect Kaleb will be a liberal in the next
election cycle.
You can count on that.
Colin, a 19-year-old Christian white Republican student at Vanderbilt.
Dawson, a 21-year-old white Republican, is currently at college studying political science
and he interns at his local Protestant church.
DC, a 29-year-old white man, is an independent who voted for Trump in 2024.
He went to law school currently and works as an attorney.
Ethan, 29-year-old white Methodist, a Republican man who works as a warehouse manager.
Okay. Moderator. Where do you get your political news from? Andrew, Spotify podcast like Tucker
Carlson or Rumble with Nick Fuentes, a guy who's been in the political radio space for
40 years or so. He's an older dude who I think went to Vandy, Krom Carmichael. Bryce, I
get a lot of my political news from YouTubers. These are the dumb fucks that watch the
Slop Tubers by the way straight up. I'm just letting you know
It's not just like liberals who watch the Slop Tubers is like guys like this too and when he says that he I know
He means as we go anyway most of the news I get us through a tick tock or just conversation with other people
That's not how you consume the news
What do you mean you get your news from conversations?
You know the fucking printing press exists. What are you talking about?
She went real old school with it. She's like, you know tales that people tell you that's how you fucking
That's how you move history, right? You know the village elders
The village elders tell me about how things have happened in the past. It's the oral tradition. Are you fucking kidding me?
Oh my god
Sophie I get a lot of news from social media like varying platforms and then I feel like
Once something really notable is going on I'll kind of dig deeper on different news sources and channels
Yeah, the town crier tells me what's going on I
Get my news from merchants on the silk road
They are well traveled sir I
I think the next level, the next stage in conservative madness is just being like, I make it up.
I'm sorry, what?
Yeah, I make it up.
I just close my eyes and imagine what the news of the day looks like.
It's pretty cool.
You should do it too.
The voices in my head inform me about all the comings and goings of modernity.
God told me in a dream, you know, that sort of thing.
where we're going to devolve into. Madison, not really into politics, but my favorite
influencers, Alex Earl. Most of my political stuff I get from podcasts that I like. I'm
thinking Alex Clark, Brett Cooper, as well as family members.
Dog, I'm sorry. I have never met someone who has answered the question, where do you
get your news from with oh just my family members once again going back to the oral tradition
that's not how you are supposed to go hmm i'm not even wow dude wow my drunkest uncle
lauren various sources through instagram and youtube just kind of like whatever pops
I've seen a lot of Alex Clark and Brett Cooper and then kind of just going into the whole religious political space. Oh
I love Mark Driscoll. He's amazing
My brother actually has a newsletter here at Nashville that I read daily then Twitter and Plackett's like Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro
Mainly YouTube Donald Trump
Trump I get my news from the president
I love getting my ears directly from the President of the United States of America.
Oh my God.
Oh, that's so awesome.
This is the greatest article ever written, dude.
Conservatives in their environment just unrestrained, you know?
No safeguards.
Also the guy who got assassinated Charlie
Well, that's one out of fucking three primary news sources that you lost not looking too good got to replace that with someone definitely Candace Owens by the way
That's a crazy that's crazy this Mark Driscoll guy has no neck. Oh dude Jesus Christ anyway
social media pockets Joe Rogan stuff like that just kind of depends on the
day mainly social media Instagram but if not CNN okay Colin that is I think the
first time someone is actually pointed to a news source I mean not doesn't have
to be CNN but like I'll take Fox News you know what I mean over whatever the
fuck these guys are saying holy shit I can't believe how bad things are my
news comes from a blend of social media so Twitter or X on Instagram but then
also pockets on Spotify, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, mostly a lot of Christian pockets
like the Kings Hall podcast for me is never just the traditional Fox News style thing
just because after all the years of growing up with my parents and grandparents, waking
up in the house with the blasting and just droning, it was never appealing to me. More
individual personalities tend to draw me in more. Honestly, my dad kind of fills
me in on everything or take that dude why are you admit lie lie why are you
admitting that oh my god what the fuck is happening my dad kind of fills me in
on everything? Bro, a lot of people will be like, you get your news from a Twitch streamer
and they're like point to me. Motherfucker, people are getting the news from their dad.
Like, at least as a part of my job, I'm like reading actual news resources like fucking
interviewing journalists, interviewing congresspersons, like, like, what do you mean you get
your news from your dad. What the fuck? For me, it's you and Philip DeFranco. So don't
have like weird personalities and necessarily a bad news source. First of all, that's not
true even for you. Because right now, for example, we're reading cityjournal.org. So
at the very least by transitive property,
by way of just being in this community,
you are still getting your news from traditional outlets, okay?
You're not getting it from a random guy on TikTok
or your fucking dad.
I am not your dad, okay?
I'm a random guy on the internet
who at the very least has like a degree
in trying to understand and make sense
of the senseless nature of American politics.
and I always tell you I you shouldn't just get your news for me anyway you shouldn't
that doesn't mean you should go to slop tubers or Tucker Carlson to get your news but like
go to the news go to the actual legacy papers go to actual mainstream media outlets and
things like that. I'm not your father. I'm the father of this, this stepped up. Social
media like Instagram or Twitter, honestly, just wherever I see really, I can't think
of any specifics or really get my news from all over the place. Social media, Twitter,
and then other than that, I tend to stick to Fox news, X or independent journalism. And
I like to watch the five on Fox during dinner time.
There's another five on Fox watcher, just like us.
Real sends me news, ground news, which is a lot of different research and
different ins and spectrum.
I also listen to pockets in the morning wire, which I think maybe like the
daily wire does, and sometimes the local channels.
Ben Shapiro, I watched CNBC fairly often as background noise when I'm
doing my work.
How's the country doing currently improving?
I think there's a major culture shift that has happened and that's the
main reason I would say there's improvement.
Yeah, everything pertains to the culture.
There's a culture shift, the anti-woke crusade,
the anti-woke crusade one, please do not look
at the dire economic situation.
It's the culture change though.
You know, we're all anti-woke now, right?
You can say the R word.
I think the economy's improved as well,
but that culture shift towards an America first type
mindset, more of a Christian mindset,
that sort of thing's a major shift
back to where I feel things used to be.
And I think that's an amazing major improvement.
All of you deserve to lose your treats, okay?
Every single person that has responded in this,
it deserves to lose all their treats.
You deserve a world where, you know,
ribeye steak is $75 and it is trapped in a fucking cage.
You deserve it.
You're a pig.
You're a porky little pig.
And you're just eating the fucking slop
and you think, oh, things are so good.
We're Christian now.
No, we're not.
You fucking idiot.
It's improving.
The economy's settled.
Cope.
The overall financial cost of things
It's finally improving. Supply chains are finally starting to get a little bit back
on track.
Brother, since what? The Trump tariffs, the liberation day? He broke it now. He's fixing
it? Is that what you're saying? That's cool. Colin, changing. I also thought about polarizing
just because, I mean, if you look at the way people vote or the way the House makes
decisions, it's all just becoming very split down the middle. This is why I said Colin
Collin probably is also going to be a fucking liberal soon.
Improving partly because of tax incentives.
Whenever you see new tax incentives for employees,
that's going to bring more money into the pocket.
Again, hypothetical in the future, which is, again,
the underlying truth of this statement or the underlying implication here
is that it hasn't gotten better yet, but it will in the future.
Also, lowering the corporate tax rate is going to allow people to invest more money back in the capital analysis,
asses which in turn will do a snowball effect for more jobs. Also over the last few years
I've been very concerned about international affairs and Homeland Security.
What, you didn't like Mr. Five Eyes? You didn't like August Jack? You didn't like
the Finlandization of NATO? I did the NATOization of Finland! You didn't like that guy?
Trump's modus operandi in the international stage is far better for my taste.
I love Chinese entry of prosperity.
I think this is a hidden, this is a secret Chinese right here.
He's saying, he's saying Trump is bringing about the glorious Chinese entry and I fucking
love that.
But it does feel as if we're moving in a direction where there's stronger stance
on the types of things that are acceptable and acceptable, again, culture shit.
I think that Trump, though, he's got some insane antics at times and he has more of a stable
presence and I think that's gonna, he's gonna accomplish more internationally.
Addy, the lady who gets her information from her dad, self-admitted.
I feel like people have woken up with Christianity.
I feel like that is a big part of people's lives now and it wasn't before.
It was Charlie Kirk. I feel like when he was killed
was when people started to actually wake up, like my aunt, she was a big non-believer,
and then when all that stuff happened, she got encouraged to go to church, and now she's going
every Sunday. Aw, bless your heart, Addy. I bet you we talk shit, but she's probably the
fucking happiest out of everyone in this group, okay? She didn't got a thing going on between
those years okay she's just like yeah yeah I'm carrying the flame we are Charlie Kirk
you know I'm fighting for the gospel just like my aunt who was a non-believer
good for her good for you Addy
Andrew I feel like the country's worst and really because of immigration I feel like
Who is in the country makes up the country and dictates what kind of country is going to be and I don't feel like the Trump administration
Is doing enough to deport people all this is the Nick Fuentes fan, of course
I know that they need resources for that
But they're deporting about as many people as Biden did and as Obama did they're on track to hit a million by the end of this term
Which is what Obama did and I feel like that's not nearly enough
I think more people need to be deported faster. So I would say the country's getting worse
One more lane on the highway and traffic will be solved
10,000 more Guatemalans deported and the country will be better. Okay. I promise just you know just one more one more migrant, please
What is this I do not expect to hold weight over 30,000 people
But when you read two of my comments out loud and not give me a chance to respond kind of feel shitty
You get trolls the chance to respond even when they're speaking in bad faith
What?
Brother what the fuck our sister? What are you talking about?
What?
I should get my news from you and Philip DeFranco.
These are just the realities of our generation.
You're right.
I get my news because you watch multiple shows that helps me.
You're missing the part that I'm making the most important.
I learn more about the world because I watch your streams because I watch it that would
normally never watch because I follow you and I watch your streams.
You've caught.
Okay, so we're not even in disagreements.
We're not even disagreeing.
But you should still definitely, you know, get your news from other sources as well.
Anyway, Wilkes, I honestly think it's doing worse right now, more than in the past, in
the years past, just given, all about the graduating college.
It is a really hard job market right now.
A lot of my friends are struggling to find jobs, so things are obviously not ideal.
But hey, man, we got those pesky transgender out of the high school swim meets, you know?
So maybe Wilkes, you can say the R word though.
You can say the R word, Wilkes, don't you think that's a market improvement?
Just saying, Atticus, I would say it's improving, mainly because we're undoing a bunch of damage.
Specifically, I see that in the healthcare world, we're spending more on healthcare than energy
and food combined.
Obviously, subsidies are growing up, but that's because we're trying to weed out the third
party payment system, which is causing people like me, at least age-wise, to pay
so much for healthcare that we don't even end up using, okay?
That's a Medicare for all voter, 100%.
This is out there waiting, waiting to be primed and activated.
I think things are improving.
I think the world outlook of America seems to be better than it was maybe four years
ago.
I feel it's worsening.
Honestly, one of the big things for me is price increases.
I know you kind of mentioned how the economy is getting better, and maybe I'm not plugged
into how things are going on the macro scale. But I mean, I go to Walmart or Aldi,
me to six to eight for a pound. That's terrible.
And I think the culture war is affecting the media too much as someone who makes
money off an interest in the Star Wars.
Anyone who knows what Star Wars is like knows how that is going.
It feels like companies are putting more of their political agenda and
entertainment. Oh my God. This guy's plugging his YouTube channel, bro.
Brother, you started off strong.
And then you immediately turned into Star Wars is gone.
and it sucks now. He's plugging his fucking YouTube channel. Are you kidding me?
These adult children.
Those are companies are putting more their political agenda in entertainment orders sway the public and I say that about conservative groups, too
Oh, he's a extreme centrist though. I think Christian values matter, but stories are suffering because of political leanings being injected in there. I
I think we're slowly improving. I think more people our age are starting to get more involved in politics
Starting to kind of wake up to what's going on and realize they have a saying. Okay. This is a person
I just wanted to sound smart
Okay, but no opinions whatsoever staying the same
I feel like in some areas we're improving but then it's kind of shifting in other areas
I would say people are kind of seeking out truth more and seeking out opportunities to learn more
I feel like the cost of living is getting worse. Don't you feel like that's more important than whatever the fuck this is?
people are seeking out truth more what do you mean I see so many people in the
in their 20s that are like I want the college and I should be doing well I
shouldn't be living picture the page and it's getting worse and worse with each
passing week I hit us so often from friends of mine oh okay so I guess it's
not improving then I think it's improving the biggest chance to me is
that I feel like a peep I feel like people are seeing contrast and wanting
things to change. We were in a world where right-wingers were so silent. I wish I lived
in that world. When have the right-wingers been silent? What world are these guys living
in, I wish they would be fucking quiet sometimes. They've never, they're so loud. They constantly
yell above their station. They constantly act as though 99% of the fucking American population
loves what they have to say. And then when people around them and they're immediately
to go, ew, what? That's what you believe? I respect you much less now. They go, oh, see?
Cancel culture. Cancel culture is when my subordinate is, don't want to listen to the
latest episode of the Joe Rogan experience of the water cooler. This is cancel culture.
Why won't they listen to me about how they're putting kitty litter in the classrooms?
No man, you're just fucking stupid and annoying. Please be quiet.
I feel like it's a combination. Some things are worse. Oh, I don't get it.
When you're into the Trump administration and not a lot of people saying things
are banger, things are fucking incredible.
Kind of feels like, uh,
It kind of feels like there isn't a lot going on that they can look forward to at most.
The most hopeful content comes from people who are like, well, things are going to get
better, surely.
Every single person is holding on to this notion that maybe things are getting better.
Every single one of them has been like, things are dog shit when it comes to finances.
I can say the R word or some combination of that right where they're like well people are becoming more Christian
I think so that's good. How the fuck
How the fuck is any of that relevant to your life?
It shows you what many of the conservative grievances are though it directly
Arrives at the heart of conservative grievance
people don't like me because my opinions are stupid and annoying and I
annoy people when I constantly talk about them and I have no other way of
carrying on a conversation outside of constantly talking about Jesus Christ our
Lord and Savior and how we must venerate Charlie Kirk and how people are not
sufficiently venerating Charlie Kirk who's carrying the flame and fighting
for the gospel and therefore at least now people are a little bit more
scared to you know be at odds with me otherwise I'll get them deported so things
are improving I guess steak is $75 now I'm living paycheck to paycheck but
things and I'm living paycheck to paycheck in a dead-end job that I
absolutely fucking despise surrounded by people that I suspect do not like me
whatsoever, but at least they've quieted down. At least, you know, there's a migrant
somewhere that was deported, and that makes me feel a little bit better about
the future of America. I think it's gonna be good. Coffee is now, yeah, coffee is
now a thousand dollars.
It's awesome.
And these democratic judges just freaking like letting people off
The immigrants and the deportation that just makes me angry there shouldn't be women dying because certain people are not put away and like
Democratic judges just freaking like letting people off
I'm like do your freaking job and actually put people away when they commit a crime
Yeah, Lauren you're right
Right, famously the Democratic judges were just letting, you know, Guatemalans go or
Hondurans go when they were doing crimes because they were like, oh no.
You've done a crime, but also you're not documented, I guess, shit, that's a cheat code.
We got the boss call from Brandon.
I'm sorry.
If you sincerely believe that in the United States of America, over the last four years
before Donald Trump became president, that if someone committed a crime while being undocumented,
they were let go, you have to be forcibly educated, okay?
You have to literally, by force, go back to school, okay?
That is insane or institutionalized.
I don't know. Like what are we doing?
How am I,
how am I supposed to live in a world where someone unironically thinks that
that is what's going on? Your, your sense. Like we have no consensus
reality that that's it. We have no consensus reality.
How can I live in the same world as this person? That person votes.
It's crazy, Lauren. Lauren, the fuck you mean?
Like why are you letting them off? Why is this so politically charged? No Democrat or
Republican. Do your freaking job. There's talk about cancer research going down and kind
of almost ending. And that really makes me angry.
Who do you think is ending cancer research, Lauren?
You think that was also Brandon?
My mom had cancer.
My grandma is enduring it right now, but religion is improving.
She's like, things are getting better because Donald Trump solved the problem that wasn't
really a problem that he just like lied about, okay?
But then things are kind of bad because he cut cancer research, but I don't really know
who cut cancer research, even though Trump is the president.
But also at the same time, things are good, I think, because Gen Z is becoming more godlike.
Medieval peasants, all of them.
And like, not even after, not even post-printing press medieval peasants who at least could
like read the Bible themselves, you know what I mean? I'm talking straight up. I'm taking
for granted what the fucking priest is saying. Yeah, if I do enough tithing, maybe I'll go
to heaven, type medieval peasantry. Oh my fucking God. George, it's a little bit of both. I
think that overall it's worsening though. Just culturally, societally, looking at the
generation beneath us and just seeing how divided everyone is and then how stupid
Everyone is frankly yeah, I wonder why you think everyone's stupid George. Maybe the fucking room that you're in
George heard everyone else go before him and was like yeah, I'm not gonna lie dog. Shit's fucked
Have you seen these other people?
Like just filling their brains with nothing all day and I don't think the advent of AI is gonna help much of that
I don't know if anyone's doing their schoolwork anymore if everyone if anyone's learning anything
Okay, George, and I have the same concerns never mind
And I just feel like things are trending downward across the board. I will say as far as governmentally
I like that people are waking up to the right idea and the cost of living that's concerning everything being so top-heavy
The stuff they put in our food. I'm pretty negative about it all
Now I understand why China takes education though seriously. Yeah, cuz they're woke and gay
Okay, that's why that's everybody knows that and they and guess what they don't fuck with Christianity at all
To be fair to China in their history. They've had some very unique moments with Christianity
So it's understandable that they would really stamp that shit out to the best of their ability
Like a lot more than they give a fuck about Islam
straight up
But everybody knows yeah, the Chinese Gen Z not well, I mean Chinese Gen Z woken gay not
Not as invested in Christianity. It's fucked up. That's why they're losing in my mind
Japan is kind of like that too. No, Japan is way worse at dealing with the the cults that pop up than China is
China actually does it a much better job. I think of stamping out any kind of like alternative
Cults than Japan does Japan a massive sequence of terror
Leading up to the 90s with specifically that people would just one day get up and go
I'm actually you know Buddha's left ass cheek or whatever and then they would do happy fun time cult and then
boom three weeks later they're putting fucking mustard gas in the in the trash
can of the fucking most crowded subway station and what I'm saying I'm
paraphrasing a little bit but like I'm not actually like that what I'm saying is
did that literally happen pretty much
Yeah, one said I'm Jesus brother and he told me to overthrow the emperor. Okay, we're not gonna talk about that
That's what I mean like you can't
That was it if anything they were not aggressive enough with fallen gong and look where that led. Oh
I mean, I guess they can't really operate inside of China, but
Yes, I'm talking about this the Tokyo subway sarin attack
was a domestic chemical terrorist attack perpetrated on the 20th of March 1995 in Tokyo, Japan by
members of the Aum Shin Rikyo cult, which is what? The religion of Aum supreme truth.
Shindikyo, yeah they have their own anime and shit, anyway, yeah this is why you have
to carry your trash with you every time when you're in Japan this is why I have
the carrier trash everywhere and there's no trash cans anywhere. I get my news from you
You and Addy's dad?
It's good to have a diversity of opinion in your media diet.
Me too.
Jaden is getting better, but it's also getting worse at the same time.
Our government system, because you use more improvement, the cost of living is high
And schools it seems like kids don't want to do anything or focus on school
Improving for a couple reasons. I think the economy seems to be stabilizing cope and
Really in the last year or so cope and I feel like since we've had the presidential election identity policies taking a little decline
Oh my god, it's always identity politics
It's always identity positive people it's all culture war we're winning the culture war winning the culture war. No, you're not
Which political figure or media person I best represents you I used to agree a lot with Matt Walsh
I think he's very aggressive, but he's pretty close
I think he's very aggressive with the left wing and I think showing hostility to people on the other side is the wrong thing to do
I think it's perpetuating political tribalism, so I used to agree a lot with his points
But not his delivery. He's like I love the transphobia, but you know ease up on shitting on the left too much
Ashleigh, Charlie Kirk, I like the core values he held and pulled forward, putting God first
above everything and that Kennedy guy with the raspy voice.
Sophie, Charlie Kirk, he has always done a really good job of mixing his religious and
family views but also tying in political views and he's very well educated.
He's not just going off his opinions, he's informed.
Allie Beth Stuckley, I think she's pretty grounded in her faith, which is something
that I relate to.
Ryan and Charlie Kirk and Robert F. Kennedy, Joe Rogan. Wow. Podcasts have really done
a number on the minds of people. Oh my God, we're so fucked. Tucker Carlson, especially
after his departure from Fox, just seeing kind of how he's a little more middle ground,
not so brainwashed by the boss to tell him what to say. It's a mix between Ben Shapiro
and Jordan Peterson. I like Ben Shapiro because of how he uses debate tactics. He's very
intelligent. Joe Rogan is probably my favorite. I really like Nick Fuentes. I feel like he
puts a strong emphasis on social conservatism and Christianity and immigration, American
first form policy. I feel like these guys live on a totally separate planet. You know
what I mean? Like whenever they're like, dude, I really need to have like a like a strong
Christian fundamentalist who roots his world view around Christianity like when I hear stuff like that
I'm like who are these fucking people like I
Like I meet religious people all the time
but like I
Don't know I feel like people to just like keep to themselves about their religious worldview and it's not like everything
It's not like what guides there every fucking waking moment. They're not like oh, I need it
You know, I need someone to tell me how religious they are, how Christian they are in every fucking statement that they make.
I think you live in a bit of a bubble in LA, probably.
Evangelicals are your biggest blindside? Yeah.
I think so. I mean I travel, I travel around. I'm not just in LA, right? Not only do I travel
around the world, but I also travel around the country. But even when I go, they all live in
Oklahoma. No, I used to go to Oklahoma all the time. Brother, what are you talking about? O.K.C.
is the exact type of person that I'm talking about. O.K.C. has the wokes. Obviously I'm not like,
you know, petitioning the people at Walmart when I go to fucking Walmart in Tulsa or something, but like
there are, there are certainly a lot of people in these places that are, are much more open-minded
than you think. But to be fair, whenever I do travel to red states, I'm still going to cities
And I think that's the problem America lives in the suburbs the ex-herbs the rural parts
And I think these are where the you know, that's where these guys are coming from I suspect
Right like these are the people who are just like living in a dog shit town
Boring as fuck shitty ass job driving 45 minutes both ways
to go to their fucking dead-end job that they despise.
And in the process,
they're just turning on their favorite podcast there
and they're listening to that guy.
And that guy happens to, you know,
B. Joe Rogan or Nick Fuentes or Matt Walsh
or Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson,
going from the suburbs to the big gay towns to work.
I mean, many of you are also doing the same thing,
but at least you're getting your information for me,
which is, you know,
So the best of my ability, I try to show you a very different perspective than what you
would encounter from, you know, the rest of your high school friends that never actually
left their small towns at all, right?
Your life isn't better or worth more because you live in a city asshole.
I'm not saying that at all.
I do think that there are significant advantages living in a diverse environment,
though, especially about how you're, you know,
how you're most likely going to be more on the mind.
It's one of the best aspects of even a college education in general,
where you are actually in a diverse learning environment surrounded by people
that you wouldn't normally encounter in a much more segregated environment
that you grew up in.
Doesn't mean that it's like, you know, worth more or anything.
And unironically, it's one of the worst aspects of American existence because there is no public transit and the the cities are designed in this way where if you live in the city, which is increasingly more costly, virtually impossible to fucking live in so you are, you are forced out usually you're priced out of the cities in general and you're more isolated you have to get a car.
There's no third spaces or at least like the only third space you can go to is like church.
So the only sense of community you get is from people like Allie who get their news from their dad
who tells them everything that's going on and they're happy with it. They're content.
I think the best would be
Nate is gay. I can't prove it, but there's a trend. Oh my God.
Benny Johnson and Michael knows. Hmm. I wonder why I wonder where you got that from chatter.
I think the best would be Charlie Kirk Rand Paul. I'd say Jeffrey meter Nick
Shirley, Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, Brittany Aldean, Tucker Carlson. Who's
heard of Nick Fuentes just over half of the participants 13 put their hands up.
What do you think of him? I think it's hilarious. I agree a lot with his
points. He definitely doesn't care how it's going to be reacted to, which I
respect, but also it can be kind of dangerous. I think I read earlier that
He's not ever planning on running for political office, which I think is probably a good thing.
There's a lot of baggage attached to him.
I just think he's funny, honestly.
And through that humor, he's saying a lot of things that I kind of align with, like
how Adolf Hitler was based, I guess.
He said that all blacks should be in jail on Piers Morgan.
And I was like, oh my God, this guy's kind of a psycho.
What?
I think she steams them.
so weird Trump gives detailed description of how meticulously Melania takes care of her panties.
Yo, is he horny? Is Trump horny? Is he horned up? Okay, we'll get to that later. Hold on,
we're doing a deep dive into Gen Z conservatism. Ali, at its core, I believe a lot of what he says,
but I think the delivery's kind of poor. Like, I feel that way about Trump, but he's America
first. He's not anti-helping out other countries, but he's like, we can't be putting our
country at risk because of it. So I just think in the general mindset is that what I agree with.
I dig him. Dude, this is so, this is exactly what I was saying. Okay.
Nick Fuentes is the logical conclusion of conservatism. Like reactionary politics has
somewhat of an endpoint, right? And that's Nazi shit. And that's why so many people are like,
well, yeah, I'm pretty sympathetic to this guy who openly says he's a neo-Nazi.
And at a certain point, once the stigma of being a Nazi goes away, then you start,
then you start seeing people self-identify as such, okay? And that's what we're moving in the
direction of. That's what's so terrifying to me, at least.
I
Dig him he knows the market. He's not trying to please everybody
He's definitely going after more of a shock value with some of his stuff
But as far as general beliefs or values, I sort of agree personally
I think a lot of time is just joking. He said a lot of things for shock value and notoriety
He does collaborations with black people
I think he nick quits very dangerous for our side of things the rights already being accused of being racist and validating women's issues and things like that
It's why the left keeps drawing people in whether it gets clipped or whether people take a serious or not
The very fact that you make light of it makes us all look bad
I think being too radical pushes this guy is the extreme center. This is the one guy who's like
Liberal minded. Okay. Who's like, yeah, let's not go that far. Okay, Bryce. You're fucking lived up. I
Think being too radical pushes people away and makes them look for truth elsewhere
Andrew, I would just disagree as far as went as a concern
I feel like his viewpoints would have been mainstream not that long ago if he's saying something like most women want to be raped
Well, she has a gray cells like hot case to women. So I feel like that's just the fact
Ethan he likes to stir the pot and it's very polarizing
He has a lot of very strong opinions and a lot of them are very controversial
Yeah, Nick Fuentes woman understand her by the way
Bryce was the one that liked Hitler's nationalism a lot but doesn't like when this is the quiet part out loud. Yeah
Conservatives constantly discrediting the left the use of fascist and nazis unironically cause people not to feel shame of being called it
To a certain degree, but I do think that as as conditions worsen and as
Conservatives have greatly expanded on the permission structure of what is allowed what you're allowed to say and what you're not allowed to say
The number one conquest that they've entertained actually the only environment the only area where they have actually genuinely changed
societal attitudes is
being able to say slurs and being open about your fucking racialized animus
and animosity and fears and whatnot that has allowed people to be more
comfortable saying yeah what's the problem and the final like the damn that
was holding everything together was like anti-semitism and the reason why
anti-semitism had any sort of like institutional stigma attached to it
with like actual weight behind it was because it was most commonly used to
defend Israel and and now that people are just like yeah we don't fuck with Israel it's over
and that's why you're seeing all the damn break in its entirety where people are like yeah you
know what this Nazi isn't so bad actually that's it couldn't have come at a fucking worst time really
when you think about it for years and years they ran with this shit for years and years
they they ran with like you should be able to make fun of everybody you should be able to
the shit on everybody, you know, non-white people for the most part, because the other
side of this is also white identitarian politics, oh, white people are constantly under attack.
Why can't we actually, you know, why can't we actually win for once?
Oh, it must be because women have a place in the workplace now, and that's why white
men are being undermined or, you know, brown people are in the workplace.
That's why white men are being undermined.
Like, how is that any different than what Nick Fuente says?
He just ties it back to Jews are responsible.
And when you realize that Israel ain't shit, and for the entirety of your life, and still
to this day everyone is tying Israel back to the Jews, then you go, oh wait, maybe Jews
ain't shit either.
Yeah, rich people are here, are there to hate, all hate directed elsewhere is just
a waste of time, I agree.
I think he reminds me of the Anjotate Republican Party, where he's really good at addressing
common problem but the solutions aren't the solutions to go by so I think a lot of people
can relate to what he's saying because he's going, oh this is the problem, then he's trying
to offer a solution that doesn't fit. I feel like we're in a time on social media where
a lot of people like to rage bait and I feel like that's part of where he's aiming at with
some of the things he says. It's brain rot and misinformation too. Yeah I'll admit
my brain's definitely getting fried. I try to delete the apps and everything but
I still find myself drawn to it. Who wants to get married and have babies? Most of
them put their hands up only three are currently married two to each other and
one is divorced. Potentially, I'm a Christian and no offense to any women here at the Nick
Quentus fan says, but there's not a ton of good traditional Christian women out there.
Oh I wonder why the Nick Quentus fan would be a repulsive little fucking incel. Brother,
you can't even shut the fuck up for three seconds. You're surrounded by Gen Z Christians,
okay, self-described Christians, and even then you're like, well, you know, I would
love a woman to marry, but they're all, they ain't shit. You know? And then all the, all
the fucking pick me's. Yeah, 100% there's no modesty. I mean, they're walking out on
bras and fucking underwear. Lauren cover it up. Sophie. Well, I think that modesty is
a virtue, but even modesty aside, I think if you look at the heart, you look at
the values, people are not heavily leading towards settling down and finding someone
the bill of life with.
Moderator, and how's the dating market?
George, you go on great dates,
and then it ends after like five months.
No one wants to stick through the uneven phase.
I go to a lot of weddings.
I was invited to a wedding last year,
and it was too early, so I slept in and skipped it.
Well, I'm not into the dating scene,
but I do believe it's hard to find someone.
Andrew, oh, here we go.
Cracks knuckles.
Andrew, Nick Fuentes fan coming in.
I know a lot of guys who are pretty successful
or pretty in good shape and successful
and they have a hard time finding a good Christian woman.
I'm successful, I do pretty well.
I make almost $100,000, I'm only 20 years old,
so this isn't the top of my concern for me.
But I don't see a lot of good Christian women.
I see a lot of tattoos, I don't like that.
And I see a lot of promiscuity with women
and I don't like that either.
I see a lot of feminism too, a lot of bossy women.
I look at my mother
and I see a very traditional conservative woman.
Why can't they all be like my mother?
I wanna fuck my mother.
And I don't see that another woman around why can't other women be like my mommy? Oh
Jesus Christ Andrew god damn you are so repulsive
Moderator what do the women here think about feminism hate it and it shouldn't be here. I think true feminism could work
Okay, so V Sophie's woke should women be able to vote yes, but
Should women be able to vote?
Sure.
I don't know.
But should we be demoralizing ourselves as women and our true values?
I used to work and now I'm going to stay at home mom.
And there was a time when that was really frowned upon.
What are you talking about?
Okay.
Okay, and I think that's sad.
I think that family culture and values
have diminished in our country.
No, you, you were insecure about it, okay?
You were made to feel insecure about it
because you had one conversation with someone, okay?
But who gives a fuck?
There was a crisis of confidence in this country, okay?
I think many Americans are suffering
from toxic insecurity, okay?
Levels of insecurity that guide
their fucking political worldview, levels of insecurity that basically are constantly tormenting
them.
Why is Austin calling me?
What's up?
I'm live.
It's Austin Scho from the Fear and Apaches.
Yeah, what's up?
What's going on?
Why are you still alive?
Why?
Why are you asking me that question?
Well, I don't know.
I thought it was time for you to end your stream and spend some quality time with
you good friend Austin Scho.
are you here? Yeah. Yeah, man. We're going to the gay bars
tonight. Come on. Are you in my house right now? No, I'm not
in your house. Oh, okay. Well, I'm just saying, we're going to
the gay bars. I'm not going to the gay bar. I'm fucking injured.
I can't go to the gay bars. We'll put you in a wheelchair.
Austin, there are people in the chat from Nebraska that is
hating on you right now. Why are they hating on me? I don't
know. They said they're from Nebraska and they hate you.
I'm sorry jokes on them. They're from fucking Nebraska. So they hate themselves. You think
you're so cool living in a big city, huh? I do. Okay. I was gonna call you about something
else with all this texture instead. Okay. All right. Bye. Why have you gone over so
long today? I don't know. I just felt like it. There's nothing else going on in my life.
I can't walk. I can't do shit. What do you want me to do? Does anyone think women
should not be allowed to vote. Andrew! Andrew! Nick went this fan. Andrew says, raises his
hand. I just feel like women are very emotional and that politics is a man's discipline. I
seriously believe it. My mother actually believes this too. Oh my god, just fuck your mom,
dude. Just have sexual intercourse with your mom, Andrew. Rid us of this. Just, just
play this out like Oedipus, okay? Play this out like Oedipus. You are such a fucking
freak dog and then these are the kinds of guys who unironically were like no
everyone in society is wrong for not understanding me. You told Ro Khanna you
streamed 10 hours a day can't lie to him yeah that's why.
I know some other women who believe that I just feel like I've never seen a
woman who truly understands politics. You know what's crazy about this? If you think women
shouldn't be allowed to vote, why the fuck are you even bringing up women who also agree
with you? Who gives a fuck about their opinion? You don't think they are capable enough to
make decisions? Why are you trying to beef up your position by, like, on the one hand
saying women are cattle, but then also some of the cattle agree with me. They like
to be eaten fucking weirdo Sophie yeah that might be your first issue of finding a good
quality girl have you ever thought about the fact that a woman's emotions are a beautiful
thing and they might compliment a man oh well good defense Sophie no I don't agree with
Andrew on this yes women are more emotional but the pop dude every conservative is like
yeah they're bitches and shit but like they should still probably be able to vote you
You know, otherwise they're going to be annoying.
Yeah.
Women are obviously stupid and emotional, but you should probably
let him fucking vote.
I mean, my uncle's stupid and emotional and he votes even though
he's a man.
Andrew, I just don't think it aligns with politics.
I think positive different discipline with a female mind
is designed for brother.
How can you live in this world in 2025?
Man, I genuinely don't understand how someone who
actually has this opinion in his brain is currently a product of the modern environment.
Oh my God.
Of course Austin was calling me, but it was too embarrassed to say on the phone, I'm going
to, I'm so, oh my God, oh my God Austin, you are such a fucking, you are such a fucking
dickhead.
aware to God. No, he just has a, he just has a request as he always does. Okay. He always,
he doesn't call me for, for fun stuff. He calls me because he has requests. Anyway,
Anyway, who's your ideal next president?
I think JD Vance.
Jaden, there's this guy, he's a streamer, his name is Papa Gut.
What the fuck is that?
Jaden, there's this guy, he's a streamer, his name is Papa Gut.
What?
I don't even know what's going on there. I'm going to say JD Vance because I don't really
think there's a better option. Victor Marx, JD Vance, JD Vance, Vance. Oh, they're so
Cook, Michelle Obama. What? Bryce, the guy who read mine. Conf and agreed with the message.
Papa Gut hates you. Papa Gut talks shit about you all the time. I don't know who Papa Gut is,
but he's got Jaden's vote and respect to Jaden and respect. I'm going to vote for Papa Gut
as well. I'm voting for Papa Gut on the next election.
Why do you guys all know who Papa gut is? This is guy. This guy is Papa gut
Ethan Klein it gives Alex Novel just enough ammo for the end of the year
h3h3 hit piece. Brogan's failure is 100% her choice. Yeah, I think this is when I'm thinking
about who should lead the country and have command over our nuclear arsenal. I think of
a guy who makes YouTube videos about Morgan.
Paul Begut calls out Caleb Hammer,
conservative rage-bitter Brittany Venti
goes after Pokemon and Keese John.
Wait, he's like a centrist though.
I don't think he's like pro-Ethan.
I think he's more of like a centri-
like some of the issues he leans on one side
and on the other issues he leans on another side.
Like he's not, YouTube desperately wants to replace
everyone with AI, like he,
Tim Poole-Libbles-Canas owns the arbiter
political violence post-mortgage. Well, every statement from Asmongold is an admission of
unintelligence. I like this guy. Okay. He's got my vote. He's got my vote. Papa, good.
I will be voting for you, sir.
He's anti-Uber has some decent takes otherwise.
Scroll down.
There's you.
Hassan Parker disgustingly compares his shocking kaya abuse to emiru's trauma.
You know what? I'm still voting for him. Son Parker. I'm still voting for Papa get Papa
get you got my vote. This fucker hates you. He's the worst love slop tube them out like
you combine Matt Walsh and Hudge and get this fucker. I don't think so.
I think he's one of those people that hate streamers but wants to be one, maybe.
I saw some pretty normal clips of him, though I'm not on TikTok much anymore.
I feel like every couple months you learn about Papaga and it's the first time you heard of him
He's got I'm voting for him. I will never forget him
You pick the worst moments to be charitable sometimes. I don't really give a shit dude. Oh my god
I can't believe another guy who hates me on the internet. What do you want me to do?
Get in fucking lie. Listen if we're picking presidential candidates
JD Vans has talked shit about me too. You know what I mean? I'd rather have
I'd rather have Papa Gut as far as whoever's hating on me. I feel like JD Vans
would probably not say that Asman Gold is stupid or unintelligent. So I'm
I'm choosing Papa Gut over JD Vans in that equation. You know what I mean? You
You can hate on me all day.
Watch a Papa Gut video.
He with Ethan Law.
You're crazy.
Oh, I'm joking.
Ethan Klein hate goons to Hassan Parker's TikToks 51 minutes long.
his reposts.
What is this?
Who watches a video like this for 51 minutes?
Also, that's a very funny title.
He's got a good sense of humor.
In here, soul-crushingly cringe thirst traps.
Is he just like re-sharing people making thirst traps of him?
Son piker edits are top tier babes. This is what I'm saying. There's a whole fucking industry around the son piker edits
He's a sack. Damn. It seems kind of easy. It's kind of jelly beans, dude
Are we gonna ignore he keeps calling him a son Parker. I mean I kind of respect that
Because it it feels like he's like saying like to me. Okay. Here's why I respect this
Okay, it feels like he's saying like he hates me
With such a deep passion
That he's not even leaning into the algorithmic boost that comes along with it
You know what? I mean? He's like showing the rest of the slop tubers that it's very real hate like its hate
deeply coming from his heart in the sense that
He's not doing it for the algorithmic boost
He's doing it for the real love of the game and I respect that okay because a lot of these guys are fair-weather haters
Right they jump on the bandwagon. They're riding the trend. They're they're putting Hasan Piker and their fucking titles
Specifically so they can get a algorithmic boost, right?
Pop a gut on the other hand. Don't play that. Okay, he don't play that game
He does not fuck around with that. He's like no, I am literally calling him a white wash
I mean, my name is Hasan. So I don't know he's not like Hank Parker if he said Hank Parker
That'd be different, but he's he's grifting every he's not grifting. He's he's doing it for the love of the game
Okay. Papa Gut is hutch if he had motion and ate another hutch, complete waste of time.
Okay.
Anyway, JD Vance, Victor Marz, JD Vance, Vance, Obama, Michelle Obama, Donald Trump, run it
back, FDR did four terms, Steve Bannon, oh, oh, I can't think of a more repulsive person.
Ben and we get like eight votes, dude. Are you fucking kidding me? That'd be great. Imagine
Steve Bannon running for office. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh, Andrew, you're so stupid.
Oh, I like him because he's an economic populace. He's taking some good stands against the big
tech industry. And I also agree with his foreign policy and his immigration views.
JD Vance, JD Vance, I defaulted to the JD Vance, JD Vance, Ron DeSantis, JD
Vans, Michael Boomer, Spencer Cox, what?
Moderator, do you own any stocks just over half of the participants raised their
hands? I don't because I have a trust fund. So I haven't thought about it.
I own Bitcoin. Does that count? I don't, but I've made some of my own
investments in different things. I also have a 401k, just a 401k, never had
the interest or the knowledge. It's just not down the path that I'm
on right now.
Wait, so these guys don't even have an investment.
So they can't even do the, oh, the market's doing well.
Derg is in it for the love of the game like Papa Gut.
Derg is, Derg is riding with Trump, not even because they have any capital whatsoever.
These are, these are capitalist, bitchless motherfuckers right here.
You are defending capitalism, yet here you are, utterly devoid of capital.
How is that possible?
I don't really have any interest in that and my husband gets stocks offered through his
work. So with me right now, we're going to boutiques and still in high school. I just
haven't had that opportunity. Plot twist. They are Papa good. I did stock trading and day
trading before. I don't have the money in the market right now. You have a 401k. Will
you be better off economically than your parents? The majority raised their hand
To indicate they will be better off economically.
I make more money than my parents did at this age.
Yeah, my parents already had two houses.
What the fuck?
And with interest rates where they are currently,
my mortgage would eat up almost half my income a month.
And then also just the way,
just the way the cost of living grocery prices
are mixed with the interest rates.
Grant, when it comes to things like buying a house
or the daily cost of living, that sort of thing,
I don't think we'll be able to afford the same things
that our parents afforded.
Even though we are making more money,
I think that the prices have gone so high
that it makes it just kind of offsets.
I got a little earlier started that my parents did.
My dad, he didn't really start making grown-up money
until he was in his late 20s, early 30s,
so I started making grown-up money at 20.
I'll be able to buy a house in about a year
and a year and a half.
The grouper is
Grown-up money
Are you looking for a house I'm working in Dubai house, I'm working to setting myself up Dubai
I like to I would like to live in Franklin and well to see to just out of outside of Nashville after school
I'm going to move to New York City
I don't plan on living there forever and I'm not gonna buy home in New York City. Yeah, good luck
Yeah, I don't think you're buying a home in New York City Wilkes. Let's be real Nate work might ship me around
It's not economic. It's just more circumstances of life. I'm fixing to go to law school back when I had two jobs
I was actually on track to buy a house
But when I really but I got really burned out so I just chose to my passion of writing
So I made kind of a leap of faith and went into that but with that being my only source of income
I don't make anything crazy. And so I don't have a lot of savings right now
It's gonna take a while for me to build up to being able to buy a house
My family's very intact. We've built wealth coming up to me and not everyone's done that not everyone's been able to do that
So I know I'm gonna be okay. Okay. That's why he was lying about how much money he's making guys
He's a fucking landscaper
And and you know his family has built up a lot of wealth now
We know Andrew now we know that you're working for your Pappy's
these landscaping business.
Yeah, Jetski dealership, Granite Madison.
We would definitely love to buy a home
if we could afford one.
No one is affording a home.
What is broken in American economy?
Healthcare, I agree with that 100%.
I got kids, I can't pay that rent.
We're busting our asses to pay rent
and healthcare that we don't even use.
I can't pay for insurance.
I haven't had insurance
that quit a job four years ago.
I don't have insurance
I've been in hospitalizations. I don't think that guy Luigi Mangione. What about it the right way?
But I can see where his frustrations were and Democrats try to fucking have the audacity to
tell me that Medicare for all is too far fetched. I'm telling you right now is fucking over. Okay.
Every goddamn racist transphobe will cast aside their previous biases, all this like
irrelevant nonsensical bullshit about like, oh, the attitude and the society is shifting
towards Christianity and we can say the R word now every fucking person every person would literally
with the exception of those fucking dipshit ass boomers already have Medicare for all over the
Asia 65 every single fucking person would be on board okay that's it that's the winning message dude
even Santa Claus is dancing because he fucking got excited
I thought it was really disgusting how a lot of people on the left celebrated that like they did with Charlie Kirk
I thought the left's reaction was pretty gross
Capitalism of the system as a whole is significantly better than other economic systems
You don't have any capital shut the fuck up for example socialism
Which a lot of our peers would probably advocate for on the left-leaning side, and I think that just simply doesn't work
You don't know anything shut up
Of course he's happy he needed he need that to he pre-diabetic
No, you don't know that
Is it ever okay to take a live or use political violence over a viewpoint no no maybe if there's
a tyrannical regime or if they're trying to install some sort of fascist nation someone
would have to go to the lengths of Adolf Hitler before that
I really try to lean away from the death penalty as a Christian thou shall not kill
I'm not a fan of political violence in any sense literally a Nick Fuentes fan who was
in yo nazi by the way. Sure bud. What do you think of Adolf Hitler? I think he was a great
leader to be honest. I think he was going. Wait, what? Yeah. What? What the fuck? Bro,
never as Gen Z conservative is what they think about Adolf Hitler. Biggest mistake
of my life. What the fuck? I think he was a great leader. She's talking about Adolf.
Young Adolf? Big A? AH? That's who we're talking about? That's crazy. I feel like there's definitely
different ways of describing Adolf Hitler before I think he was a great leader to be
honest. She said, ah, not the biggest fan of his art in his early years, but really loved,
loved what he did after, okay? Great leader. Great leader, honestly. Co-worker politics
is crazy. I'm in favor of a strong executive. By the way, this is the neo-Nazi who's asked,
what do you think of Adolf Hitler? Let's see what Andrew has to say about this. I'm
favor of a strong executive, I think we should have a stronger executive branch. I don't think
we should be killing people or doing math genocide, obviously, but I do think we should have a strong
executive. What do you mean? Your, the question was about Adolf Hitler, Andrew. The question is not
about the, the unitary executive theory. It's about Adolf Hitler. Why are you talking about
something entirely irrelevant? Okay. I feel like one of the biggest problems Trump is running
into right now is that all these little courts, they want to throw up little blockages
against everything he's trying to do. If Andrew knew even a little bit about, I guess the history of
Nazi Germany, he would probably be talking about, you know, like maybe we need to change the laws a
little bit, right? We need to change laws a little bit, maybe like race laws, right? We need to
implement a new, new race law. I mean, obviously it'd be a little bit on the nose with a Nuremberg
to do it but like you know maybe maybe we do it somewhere else right somewhere in America
I'm thinking we march to the Madison Square Garden okay we get the America first movement the
America Bundt movement we get them together and we march to the Madison Square Garden
and we take it over okay
yeah um whether it's his tears or deporting people so I'm very pro strong executive
strong leader, strong man. I support national sovereignty and Hitler was a nationalist. He was
like, we have to take Germany back for Germans. And I feel like we should do that in America.
We should take America back for our native population. I don't think he's talking about
the indigenous population, by the way. Anyway, so I'm not an expert on Hitler by any means,
but as far as nationalism is concerned, I'm all that.
I myself am actually Jewish and sensually I'm Christian by faith but Jewish by
blood I've actually read Mein Kampf the end conclusion that he came to
absolutely abominable but I strangely understood where he was coming from as
far as wanting to improve the national state of Germany he made a lot of people
suffer and I want to do ungodly things to people who do things like that
Oh, thank God. There's at least one person.
Moderator, what do you- Oh, no, this second dangerous question.
Moderator, what do you think of Jewish people?
Atticus, they've got Hollywood on lock.
Don't they own- George, don't they own like a ton of the media and like just kind of everything?
Bryce, no different than Black people, Asian people, or any other people here today.
I don't really know why there's a single issue about Jewish people.
This is the guy who read my cop who's ancestrally Jewish
Andrew oh, oh my god
Andrew again Andrew's like you asked me about women and now you're asking about Adolf Hitler and now you're asking about Jews
Those are like three of my favorite subjects. Okay
One could say Jews are kind of like the women of the genders of the religions
Bad across the board and I can't fuck them like my mom who I want to fuck
Let's see what Andrew had to say okay about Jewish people I
Would say a force for evil. I don't see why we support Israel
I think Israel is a very evil state the genocide and Gaza killing all these poor people and the reason we really support them
Is because they are the biggest donors
We have APEC and all these Jewish run organizations. Congratulations to Israel. You got you got Andrew to
Speak out on Jews as an evil entity collectively by immediately associating it with Israel very cool
Very cool. Thank you Andrew
Let me clarify that Andrew do you think the Jewish people are a force for evil?
Yes, sir. It doesn't bother me if it's true. Those slurs, if you're racist or whatever, just rolls off my back. This is my country. My people have been here since the American Revolution, so I say what I want to.
Okay, moderator, what do others think about that?
I assume people are a little bit repulsed by Andrew at this point.
Let's see.
My boyfriend and I were just discussing the difference between Judaism and Christianity.
And when you're looking at biblical terms, the only difference is they don't believe
in the New Testament.
understand what the overall difference between the two groups. Ally. Ally. For, I think for
me that any classification of a whole people group, I just don't think you can say this
entire group is bad. My husband is Jewish. I wouldn't say that they're doing anything
to people, you know? I don't think they're a force for evil, but I do think the relationship
with Israel is very complex and it's not just oil and special interest. There's so
many things that go into that and it just makes it a very difficult subject. Lauren,
I hear pro-Israel content all the time from certain pastors and you make me
question them. I used to go to Global Vision Bible Church with Greg Locke and he's demonic
and I know a lot of stuff and how much harm he's done to a lot of people. He goes to Israel
all the freaking time and takes his stupid money. Israel has a lot of connections to
sex and human trafficking and that doesn't sit well with me. I don't feel this is anti-Semitic
because I'm a little bit Jewish myself. So I have all the room to talk and I've
been seeing evidence. When you see evidence of a pastor abusing people or a pastor
won't show you his financial statements. That's a big freaking problem. Okay. So Jews kind of
iffy with the group. Okay. Even amongst the people who are a little bit Jewish, George Santos
style, I'm somewhat of a Jew myself says Lauren. Okay. Very cool. So the moderators,
which is to Israel. Okay. And I suspect things are not going to get better for Gen Z
conservatives from that point on. Because now we're not even talking about Jews. We're
just now talking about Israel. Let's see what they have to say. I definitely think the genocide
is bad, but I can see the pros in having a positive relation with Israel. Also, how
do we know that the entire thing, numbers from Gaza, is being accurately represented
to us? I don't think it's being accurately portrayed to us. I don't think George thinks
that the numbers are actually much higher than the ones that are presented. I think
he thinks it's much lower. George is invested in the conservative sphere. It's one thing
to declare war on terrorists is another thing to declare a war on the race of Arab people.
I tend to avoid topics on Israel because my feelings are so conflicted about it. Honestly,
this is the most thought I've given to the subject. I was the genocide. It never even
started. I feel conflicted on the subject. I love how Americans will just be like, obviously
genocide is bad, but low key the people doing the genocide, we should probably be
chill with them because they give us medical technology. Also, have you heard of ways?
But that's a crazy thing to say, but this is the defining trait of the average American
and the way that they operate, okay?
Yeah, genocide is bad, but the people doing the genocide also worked on ways, and I really
can't live without ways when I'm on my way to work.
It helps me avoid traffic.
Treatler final form?
Yeah.
soda from a soda stream, okay? It's crazy because like, Israel doesn't even invent things that
these guys actually care about. It's medicine. They hate that. You know what I mean? Like,
they fucking hate pharmaceuticals. So to them, it's, you know, what do you got? You got
ways you got soda stream, and then you got a fuck ton of pharmaceuticals, right? And
They fucking hate medicine.
They think it's all woken demonic.
And also, they can't even afford it.
So it doesn't even matter.
Seemingly, none of them have fucking insurance.
Anyway, I feel conflicted on subject
from a biblical standpoint.
I don't think we should be,
have anything to do with putting weapons in Israel.
I actually personally don't know why we're allied
with Israel at all.
But from a biblical standpoint,
You can see why we'd want to keep our eyes on Israel because that's where things will
start stirring when the end times come.
This guy's anti genocide, but he's like, yeah, we should just still pay attention to what
Israel is up to.
They're up to some fluctuate over there and you know, they're going to bring about the
end times.
Cool.
Ah, Ali, I'm primarily just anti war.
I don't want to go to war.
So I have to pay the nice people that we don't necessarily agree with.
They're doing to keep our people safe.
That's like my number one priority, Jaden.
I personally don't mind if the US has a relationship with Israel.
the papa gut voter. I just don't think it's worthwhile having so much of our interest going
into a country in the Middle East. I don't think it's important. I think there's a lot
of negative opinions on Israel based on a situation that wasn't provoked by them and
they had to respond and they responded with some mistakes and just a couple of mistakes
and people don't appreciate America's resources going towards that. But you have Hamas
hiding behind civilians and Gaza. That's not really a recipe for success. Of course,
all the fucking conservatives sound like, you know, all the libtards that are up
my ass every day. As Christians, basically, we're supposed to protect them. Israel's positive,
important, and the lesser of evils. Ukraine, scam, Europe's problem, over involved, calculated
and money, over involved. Yeah, over involved. I don't really care. Oh my God. Literally,
in unison. Everyone's like, no, get us out. Get us out of there. Israel, I don't know
the Bible says it's okay. Moderator, do you agree or disagree that all illegal immigrants should be
deported? Thirteen of the 20 say they agreed, seven did not, including Bryce. Well, how much longer is
this? I'm so tired. I think I'm going to give up at this point. I can't do it anymore. I've been
doing it for 10 hours. This is a wonderful article, though. And I do want to leave you
you with some, with some choice words. I'm going to obviously cover the rest of the article
and maybe some other fun stuff tomorrow as well. If I have time to stream tomorrow because
we got a big day of podcasting tomorrow, but I want to leave you with, uh, you know, Donald
Trump, has he, does he still have it? Let's take a look.
Hey, what did you say? My wife's closet. And I'll say this number one is very bad,
sounds a little strange. They looked at her drawers. You have draw, and then you have draw.
They looked at both. And she's a very meticulous person. You know, like these people, just
like she'd fit into your group for a while. She'd be very happy with her. But everything
is perfect. Her undergarments, no reason. I sometimes refer to her as panties. They're
folded, perfect, wrapped. They're like so perfect. I say that's beautiful. You know,
it's the part of the world she came from. Everything was perfect, no problem. Fall,
fall, fall. I think that she steams them to make sure they're just sitting. We
We came home, I wasn't there when the raid took place, the raid of a popular president,
a former president, Joe Biden.
And it was not that way.
They were a mess.
It was all over the place.
And she said, oh, what happened?
That's so terrible.
But it's terrible.
I went into my young boy's room.
These thugs are disgusting and we cannot let them get away with this.
We have all the evidence, you know.
We have all the evidence, and we have to do something about it.
We have to do something about it.
It's illegal, and it's disgusting.
He's right.
Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, love you guys.
And I will see you tomorrow, OK?
Bye-bye.
Inch out law, see you tomorrow.
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