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[00:10:11] I've mentioned what I'm saying.
[00:10:12] And you will understand perhaps, what I'm trying to tried just now.
[00:10:15] Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:16] I am being patronizing.
[00:10:17] I don't know who the fuck you are.
[00:10:18] And you're over here chirping all the way from fucking London about you want to
[00:10:21] fucking free play this thon.
[00:10:22] But also simultaneous, and you're talking about both sides are fucking fine, shut
[00:10:25] the fuck up, you're not even leaving.
[00:10:26] Okay?
[00:10:27] Who the fuck is this pink hair twink?
[00:10:29] Chubby! Chubby! Chubby! Chubby!
[00:10:32] Chubby! Chubby! Chubby! Chubby! Chubby!
[00:10:35] Chubby! Chubby! Chubby!
[00:10:37] So what would you like me to do after this?
[00:10:41] I...
[00:10:42] Do you not understand the English language?
[00:10:44] What's going on everybody?
[00:10:46] Everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon, prenoon, no matter where you are in the
[00:10:50] world.
[00:10:51] I'm a Sompiker and this is also our broadcast coming to you live, from somewhat
[00:10:54] sunny but otherwise partially sunny but otherwise gloomy because we're actually in the midst
[00:10:59] of a lot of fog California Los Angeles folks were live and alive and I hope all the boys
[00:11:04] girls and MBs are having a fantastic one because today's a beautiful day today's a wonderful
[00:11:07] day today is Monday ladies and gentlemen it's Monday news day here in stolen land okay
[00:11:16] here in stolen land also known as California also known as Los Angeles also known as
[00:11:22] West Hollywood. We are alive. We are alive. And I hope everyone's having a fantastic one because
[00:11:31] today's a beautiful day. Today's a wonderful day. What is this new merch? No, it's not new merch.
[00:11:35] This is an artist that I got this merchandise from in the last switchcon I went to. So it was
[00:11:42] like two years ago. Street saying you outperformed. I was in the last line of the X-mas concert.
[00:11:46] hell yeah brother it is uh 12 22 December 22nd 20 25 three days off from Christmas and we are live
[00:11:54] we are alive I hope everyone's having a great one and uh yeah that's it can you speak a little
[00:12:05] louder babe no I can't this is a lot of the gets all right so um this is part of the broadcast
[00:12:10] where I tell you about my personal news about what's going on in the world of the Sonhouse and
[00:12:14] I'm a pygrim between the time period where it press the soft room button press the start room button
[00:12:17] So help me God. That's what I'm gonna do and I didn't stream yesterday. Obviously. Why no stream is your leg. Okay
[00:12:23] No, I didn't stream yesterday because we had this slam like a bunch of different content
[00:12:29] Archie you said that they would love to collab with you, bro
[00:12:31] You got to get that stream not gonna lie. We got to get the jins years together. Yes. I will do that anyway, so
[00:12:37] We'll get to that in a second. The reason why I didn't stream yesterday is because
[00:12:41] after the broadcasts over on
[00:12:45] After the broadcast was over
[00:12:52] After the broadcast was over oh new CNN article came out. Yeah, you already know I
[00:12:57] Didn't really do much. I didn't really do much at all on
[00:13:01] Saturday night. I went to bed early. I woke up early and
[00:13:05] I had a shit ton of podcast that I had to do so that's what I did. I did a shit ton of podcast
[00:13:11] Okay
[00:13:13] You were giving phenomena man levels of the press on for your end was I
[00:13:28] Yes, Lamel I wasn't in the beginning. Yeah
[00:13:35] No, I just watched it I don't know I don't remember I don't recall it was on Thursday, so
[00:13:41] We didn't actually
[00:13:42] We didn't actually film the first the fear and I don't know what the final product looks like but we
[00:13:49] We we we cut some episode some of the episode with cutie Cinderella into the fear and podcast
[00:13:57] Because we filmed some of it on Sunday. We filmed some of it on Thursday and the reason why we did that is because will
[00:14:04] Will neff
[00:14:06] was leaving
[00:14:07] Thursday night and I think cutie's like leaving today so
[00:14:12] It was pretty funny you were bummed out about, oh it was because I was bummed, it was my ankle.
[00:14:19] Oh yeah, I'm in a much better mood now than then, than Thursday, even though you guys got
[00:14:24] to see it on Monday morning.
[00:14:26] But it's just like a strange thing where you saw how I was on Thursday much closer
[00:14:32] to the injury and not getting better seemingly or just not being able to walk and immobile
[00:14:40] and my back was hurting versus now on Monday, I'm actually in a much better mood overall
[00:14:47] because I, um, you know, I'm a week out from the actual incident.
[00:14:54] I'm a week out from the actual incident should have went and did the politics over.
[00:15:01] No.
[00:15:02] Yeah.
[00:15:03] If I had done that, which is ironic because I think instead of me, they got Zoram on
[00:15:07] Donnie.
[00:15:08] If I had done that, podcast with Trevor Noah, if I flew to New York, I would not have fucked
[00:15:13] my ankle up.
[00:15:15] But the reason why I didn't want to do it is because I was traveling so much that I was
[00:15:19] like, you know what, I can't like, I can't go out again for no reason.
[00:15:25] Has Kai knocked you over accidentally with a foot injury?
[00:15:27] Yes.
[00:15:28] As a matter of fact, yes, because she's so fucking fat, dude.
[00:15:32] When I go to the gym in the morning, everyone is so like all the other dogs,
[00:15:37] Oliver friends are so incredibly excited to see her so they instantly start trying to
[00:15:44] like play and they start trying to play while I'm like walking into the gym and they play
[00:15:49] on top of my bad leg and it is the worst fucking thing ever.
[00:15:55] Yeah, it's fucking annoying.
[00:16:11] But um, in any case, are you caught up on one piece?
[00:16:15] I've been caught up on one piece, baby.
[00:16:17] It's over three years.
[00:16:20] We made it.
[00:16:21] You already know.
[00:16:22] Um, thought you were ops because he dated do a lepa. Yeah, that is my op for that reason,
[00:16:29] but not really for that reason. All right. So don't sneeze. It triggers my mesophonia.
[00:16:37] I'll just kill myself. You're right. I'll just die. I guess you need actual rehab exercise
[00:16:49] bro stop screwing around and you won't roll it again my brother 60 second eyes
[00:16:52] close one leg balance you think I don't do these things what are you crazy of
[00:16:57] course I do these also y'all need to be put on a spaceship and and and shot into
[00:17:04] the Sun for this okay
[00:17:07] Does Kaia knock you over and cripple you so you stay in frame?
[00:17:19] I heard that somewhere.
[00:17:20] Yeah.
[00:17:21] That's what it payback for voltage.
[00:17:22] I guess.
[00:17:23] Yeah.
[00:17:24] That's what it is.
[00:17:25] That's what it is.
[00:17:26] She's beating my ass.
[00:17:27] She's abusing me.
[00:17:29] That's what a lot of people don't understand.
[00:17:31] This whole time, actually, it was her abusing me.
[00:17:33] People thought it was abusing her, but she was abusing me the whole time.
[00:17:36] She's big enough, dude.
[00:17:37] Fucking fat enough to abuse my ass is one of you on her. Nah, she'd win.
[00:17:43] She'd win.
[00:17:45] She does. She already when I do.
[00:17:49] When I do one of you on her, she already beats my ass.
[00:17:52] All right, so.
[00:17:55] Where was I? Where was I?
[00:17:56] How much is the highway?
[00:17:57] One hundred and twenty pounds.
[00:17:59] But very close to the ground.
[00:18:01] So Kaya caught an ankle gate confirmed.
[00:18:05] Yeah, so
[00:18:11] Where was I where was I where was I where was I where was I yeah personal news wise
[00:18:15] I didn't I didn't stream yesterday as you guys know
[00:18:18] And that was because we were shooting back-to-back podcast. We were trying to we were trying to get as many episodes out there as possible part of the
[00:18:26] You know, we got we got a really sick one with adapt
[00:18:29] That's gonna be coming out next week what we shot it this week
[00:18:32] You know New Year's resolutions things of that nature. This is the first time we've actually shot an episode before
[00:18:40] You know before the week we don't usually bank episodes on principle
[00:18:45] But Judy's not gonna be here. Will's not gonna be here next week
[00:18:48] So like we wanted to make sure that we we got one out there
[00:18:53] But yeah other than that
[00:18:57] Other than that I
[00:19:02] Yeah, I just I ran around and didn't really do too much and then I went to the to the Christmas
[00:19:09] The the Christmas charity
[00:19:11] Stream that cutie was is doing in a white elephant came in hot with a bunch of one-piece
[00:19:18] special edition collectors edition
[00:19:22] Loboos that a lot of people don't understand a lot of people did not appreciate it
[00:19:28] Do you think it'll be on Trevor Noah some other time? Yes
[00:19:30] I will be drunk as no I was I was brother I drove to that event and I was sober I did not drink a
[00:19:39] single lick of alcohol you think I would be you think I would drink alcohol on a Sunday night who
[00:19:45] do you think I am I'm a 34 year old man with a with a severe ankle injury you think I'm gonna
[00:19:53] be drinking are you fucking insane I'm your grandfather you gave blouse equipment back
[00:19:59] No, I didn't take it because he's going to give me the actual size my size
[00:20:05] I'll be turkey the love of the ikram Edan as power as power the level where you are yapmayın
[00:20:13] Allah
[00:20:14] Salik para aşk versin amin
[00:20:20] Aspava
[00:20:24] Are you attending this morning inauguration on January 1st
[00:20:27] It looks like it'll be so fun, but I'll be out of say, huh real slick trying to get that Kelsey bed in ha ha ha
[00:20:36] You gave quackity the funko pops lame lame ass regifter. No those are my funko pops
[00:20:41] What the fuck they're not funko pops either they're la boo boo's and no I didn't read you re gift them what?
[00:20:51] But
[00:20:53] Yeah, I I only got
[00:20:55] last night's events, I only got the hockey stuff, one because I thought it would be cool,
[00:21:03] but more so because it was something that Yugi was looking forward to.
[00:21:07] And last year, last year, Arke and Yugi cooked me, because there was something that I wanted
[00:21:12] to get, the tungsten cube that Ludwig had, that loves, that he loves.
[00:21:20] I wanted that.
[00:21:21] And there was like this bidding war over it. And basically, uh, you know, uh,
[00:21:27] Ludwig won the cube bag or bought it back, I think.
[00:21:30] But then also I felt really bad that I had stolen for content.
[00:21:35] I had stolen Yugi's, uh, like Warcraft figurine that he really liked.
[00:21:39] It was like a collector's edition Warcraft figure that was really sick.
[00:21:42] And I gave it back to him after. So this year I was coming in hot.
[00:21:47] This year was coming and how I was gonna fuck over Yu-Gi or Arki if I could and Arki didn't have anything good
[00:21:54] But Yu-Gi at least had the hockey stuff and he really wanted it. So I was like, yeah
[00:21:59] That's why I stole it
[00:22:02] Anyway, should have taken the Theragun. I got so many Theraguns. It's all good and then and then
[00:22:11] Cutie Cinderella signed me up to sing
[00:22:14] Which is so crazy
[00:22:18] Are you fucking kidding me? She just out of nowhere
[00:22:22] Added me on to the to the dynamic here like I was like
[00:22:26] And it's so cook is this like
[00:22:29] Like she put me on as a donation goal and what am I supposed to say? No, I'm not gonna do it
[00:22:35] People are gonna lose their fucking minds if I don't do it
[00:22:38] I'm gonna get hate threads, you know, they're gonna be like we finally got him Hasan hates charity fucking fake socialist
[00:22:47] You know all this shit and and she cooked my ass. She cooked my ass, bro. I sang jingle bells
[00:22:59] Are you attending the Zoran inauguration on January 1st?
[00:23:02] I reiterate because I didn't understand your response Lamal. Oh
[00:23:06] The reason why I responded to you like that is because there's a cal-she prediction market bet on whether or not I will be attending Zoran's
[00:23:13] inauguration and I'm refusing to
[00:23:15] I'm refusing to say yes or no to it because I don't want to fucking I don't want any mofuckers to actually bet on it
[00:23:21] That's why I was like, oh real slick. You're trying to figure it out, huh?
[00:23:28] My daughter's college fund is riding on this
[00:23:36] Which is giving 100 subs to every big streamer I watch do you think though you'll get it to probably not
[00:23:45] We've heard you sing we are Charlie Kirk man the whole world knows you got pipes album
[00:23:52] when big dog I mean Charlie we are Charlie Kirk is different because like I am Charlie
[00:23:57] Kirk and I do carry the flame and I do fight for the gospel and I do honor his name right
[00:24:03] so like when I sing we are Charlie Kirk it comes from a different place like that's
[00:24:08] That's not me.
[00:24:11] That's not me.
[00:24:12] If that makes sense.
[00:24:13] It's like a, it's like a different person.
[00:24:15] I've become a different being where almost like my love for Charlie and how much I am
[00:24:21] Charlie Kirk basically speaks for me.
[00:24:24] If that makes sense, do you guys, you guys, are you picking out what I'm putting out?
[00:24:35] I become Kirkified if that makes sense.
[00:24:37] And that's why it's like, it doesn't,
[00:24:40] it's a flow state situation, ultra instinct.
[00:24:44] It doesn't translate to other songs, right?
[00:24:48] Like, hi Kirk, I become Charlie Kirk.
[00:24:53] Yeah, yeah, I get into a flow Kirk state.
[00:24:58] And I just become, I become Kirkified.
[00:25:02] And I just, you know, yeah.
[00:25:05] I'm a Kirk dub white boy. Anyway, um, so this didn't translate that well, but here, here is me singing Juga Bells for the first time ever in my life. As a matter of fact, I made a blast off meme of Kaya. Well, okay, don't send me a Google drive document, please. I'm not going to click on that.
[00:25:21] Yeah, am Charlie hi yeah exactly am am Charlie Kirk hi
[00:25:32] Honestly, this was very mean girls and we're very here for it. Okay, I
[00:25:37] Do not believe you never sung that song before it was too on pitch. Okay. It's jingle bells not like a fucking crazy
[00:25:45] Song to you know, I'd like I've heard it before I just didn't know all the lyrics
[00:25:51] Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way
[00:25:55] Oh what fun it is to ride on a one horse open sleigh
[00:26:00] Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way
[00:26:04] Oh what fun it is to ride on a one horse open sleigh
[00:26:09] I
[00:26:17] Sounds like a drunk uncle
[00:26:19] What were you cooking there? I was just whipping it up. I was whipping it up. I was whipping it up
[00:26:23] Are you using the hockey stick as a crutch? Yes. Why did you lie to see it about your music? What SD kid?
[00:26:27] I do listen to SD kid. It's not I mean
[00:26:30] It's it's also one of those things that I like saying because it's fucking annoying because I know as soon as people see it
[00:26:35] They're gonna be like, oh
[00:26:36] This is how you know, I think he's no longer underground. He's no longer underground these fucking idiots are saying it and it's like yeah
[00:26:45] Exactly. Oh, what happened your favorite fucking scouser is no longer underground
[00:26:50] Turns out it don't work that way. So I'm playing I know my role
[00:26:55] I'm like the the weather lady, you know the weather lady that ruins memes
[00:26:58] I'm doing that for for people who thought that they had a gate kept underground artists
[00:27:03] Sdk is so buns. No, I I love no, I actually do like it because I mean come on. I love
[00:27:15] Scoutsers. I love the I love the accent. You got you got fucking, you know, yeet, but
[00:27:26] from liver pool
[00:27:28] live appeal
[00:27:36] uh... your candid reaction youtube clips are filled with clandestine operators
[00:27:39] rossie ever saying she's anti-semitic and that you're bought such paid for by
[00:27:42] israeli rules
[00:27:43] yeah it's really funny because when when kandace owens was like dick riding
[00:27:47] israel
[00:27:48] at the pro-israel daily wire
[00:27:51] or under the banner of pro-israel david horowitz
[00:27:54] I was out there fucking saying fuck Israel.
[00:27:56] You know what I mean?
[00:27:58] So all of these like newcomers,
[00:28:00] all these like post-October seven understanders,
[00:28:03] you know what I mean?
[00:28:04] All these people who are like,
[00:28:05] oh, we are the real fucking vanguard
[00:28:07] of being against Israel.
[00:28:09] Bitch, put some respect on my name, okay?
[00:28:14] Denounce Liverpool now, ha, before it gets worse,
[00:28:17] I will never denounce.
[00:28:19] I will never, I will never denounce the Scousers.
[00:28:22] I'm a skelsalad. I'm not fucking tori. I'm a skelsalad.
[00:28:29] Marty Supreme Review, when I will not be reviewing any time, so I have to watch it later, but Hasan trending on CNN.
[00:28:43] Oh, up here. Hasan Puggers 2026 plan. Trending. That's sick.
[00:28:48] Majority raid?
[00:28:51] Kind of hoax.
[00:28:56] But yeah.
[00:29:01] Where was I?
[00:29:02] Where was I?
[00:29:03] Where was I?
[00:29:04] Oh, thank you, Tamacy, for the playlist.
[00:29:05] In any case, yeah, Trump is gonna do a live war announcement potentially, but we'll talk
[00:29:11] about that in a little bit.
[00:29:13] Are you going to drag Nicki Minaj in her ugly bars today, King?
[00:29:16] Don't worry, I got the look.
[00:29:18] I'm against Nicki Minaj suspended instantly regress it. It's on the docket. It's on the
[00:29:24] fucking docket. Do not worry. Okay. The barbs are on the barbs on a different, the barbs
[00:29:32] are not grieving anymore. They've just become MAGA. I think like, I guess they're all just
[00:29:36] MAGA now. Another one of my incredible moments of indication. Once again, PC YouTube is beefing
[00:29:46] with your Corpo ops because they can't afford Ram love that love that gamer Nexus, but gamer
[00:29:53] Nexus has never been an op of mine. I don't think an endorsement from the pound to head
[00:29:59] of strategic engagement himself need. I like when the company that talks about how you're
[00:30:03] only safe when you make someone else scared accuses others of fear mongering. Happy to
[00:30:06] meet you on camera. Eliano is strategic engagement. Right. Yeah. I don't think I don't think
[00:30:14] gamers. I don't think gamers Nexus has ever been an op of mine. I think they've always
[00:30:21] had a good head on their shoulders with all this stuff. Another like there are some in
[00:30:28] the. I would say that gamer Nexus even Linus like there are a lot of these guys out there
[00:30:37] in the in the PC parts side of the world or like the the I mean even like Marcus Brown Lee who has
[00:30:44] been like way too fucking pro Elon in my opinion has has kind of been I mean he's had like decent
[00:30:50] politics outside of that and not only that but also these guys that are also they're they're
[00:30:57] very like they're getting even better and better with their politics this time goes on because
[00:31:03] is shit is just so fucked.
[00:31:06] At this point, at this point,
[00:31:10] if you are not starting to recognize,
[00:31:14] if you are not starting to recognize
[00:31:17] how messed up everything is,
[00:31:19] and like at least leaning into wokeness a little bit,
[00:31:24] you are, you know, totally dropping the ball.
[00:31:27] Yeah, the most interesting one for me was Jerry Riggs Everything.
[00:31:35] Jerry Riggs Everything went from kind of being like a libertarian guy to now just like actively
[00:31:42] talking about how, you know, this is a nation, this is a nation that is ruled by pedophilic
[00:31:49] elite.
[00:31:50] Like it's pretty awesome.
[00:31:52] not in like a weird conspiracy theory kind of way, but just like a straight up.
[00:31:58] I don't know. I just I see I see a lot of momentum in this in this space.
[00:32:03] Um,
[00:32:06] I welcome them. I welcome them to become woke warriors alongside myself in this battle.
[00:32:14] Okay.
[00:32:14] Louis Rossman remains a fave of mine to refuse to engage politically with.
[00:32:25] Yeah, I think he's one of the only ones that's like a little weird with his politics, but whatever,
[00:32:33] it doesn't matter. As you mentioned many months ago, people may finally turn,
[00:32:37] when it starts to affect them personally or someone they know, exactly. That's how it always
[00:32:41] goes. That's how it always goes, ladies and gentlemen. I told you this already, and that's
[00:32:47] why I have remaced that fast. That's why I have told you that while things seemingly
[00:32:53] are pretty horrible, they will turn around. People will wake up. People will wake up
[00:32:59] to the realities. People will be agitated and realize that they're running out of
[00:33:05] options and that the Democrats are not even like offering them the proper solutions.
[00:33:09] we're here, we're there. And, you know, hopefully we can get people on the right side. You don't
[00:33:21] have to applaud you for being white anymore, though. Yeah, exactly. Although I do respect
[00:33:30] Rossman for his, uh, right to repair stuff. I think that's great. Right. I've always,
[00:33:38] I've always agreed with that. I've always been a champion of that. So
[00:33:44] even when there's, uh, even when people have like horrible politics on other issues,
[00:33:48] there's always like redeemable qualities that you can find.
[00:33:51] Rossman was pros or on at least, he really hated Cuomo. Yeah.
[00:33:55] But he's a bit of a gig of libertarian. Yeah. I think he's like also a sex
[00:33:59] past any orbiter diehard fan and probably hates me for that reason, but whatever.
[00:34:06] Um.
[00:34:10] Woke 2.0 is here, I know.
[00:34:13] He's also huge on the anti-flot camera thing right now, too, which is also based, yeah.
[00:34:17] There are a lot of, uh.
[00:34:22] There are a lot of people that you can bring on board.
[00:34:29] Anyway, so, if we didn't bless of it, stop sending me a Google Drive link, sweetheart
[00:34:50] Harleen, please. Emma and Samma Majority Report today theorize that this is a grab bag mentality
[00:34:59] happening by big companies. Almost like they know something is coming to head. Yeah, I think
[00:35:03] so too. Also, who could forget my goat Ben Jordan, who is awesome a few weeks. Obviously,
[00:35:09] he's Mr. Anti-Flock Camera. You know, this lock camera league is like Netflix or Stoggers.
[00:35:16] Yeah. Ben Jordan is the best. Okay. He is the goat, 100% certified banger, after banger,
[00:35:27] after banger, brilliant guy. Love his stuff. Love his stuff. Couldn't promote it enough. Couldn't,
[00:35:36] you know, rip him hard enough. Yeah. Ben is a music dude that pivoted the tag oddly enough.
[00:35:43] I know. I've talked to him as well. He's got great politics. Okay. So,
[00:35:55] where was I? What was I talking about? Why am I talking about the politics of like individual
[00:35:59] contributors? All right. We're gonna, we're gonna blast off 60 minutes. Seacot censorship
[00:36:07] Trump creates major Barry Weiss drama, TPSA Rewing and Fighting Weekend, Epstein release,
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[00:36:38] hog watch, and more. Get in now. Get in now. It's Monday, motherfucking news day. You already
[00:36:50] know what it is. People are turning back to woke. People are turning woke again. Let's
[00:37:07] say. Okay, woke is back. woke is back. woke is back, baby. Yeah, oh, fuck before I forget
[00:37:27] Nicki Minaj, obviously.
[00:37:37] Very wise drama.
[00:37:41] Nicki Minaj is mega.
[00:37:47] Okay, do we have a blast off meme? What is this all?
[00:37:57] Mortal combat. Okay, whatever. Um, yeah, I will give you my initial take away from turning
[00:38:16] point USA weekend, utter defeat for Ben Shapiro, absolute victory for anti-Semitism in general,
[00:38:26] like incredible victory for anti-Semites all around. It's pretty much over. It's never
[00:38:35] been more over than it is. I think it's time to welcome Jews to Muslim status. Welcome.
[00:38:45] You're probably not going to appreciate it, let's be real, but you will see what it's
[00:38:51] like.
[00:38:52] It's not great.
[00:38:53] I will admit, the non-white status for Jews is coming.
[00:38:59] For sure.
[00:39:00] Adam Friedland was right.
[00:39:01] Like, it's not the worst thing overall.
[00:39:07] It's not great.
[00:39:08] I won't lie to you.
[00:39:12] That's not true, Hasan.
[00:39:13] I mean, I think it's coming.
[00:39:15] I think the, the, I think white card for, for Jews is, is slated to be revoked.
[00:39:20] I think, I think Adam Friedland was, was pretty on the ball when he was like worried
[00:39:26] about it. And I thought to myself, like, I think he's being so crazy.
[00:39:30] I think he's being crazy. That's never going to happen.
[00:39:32] And it's like, who knows?
[00:39:38] Can't wait for someone to look like a moron.
[00:39:39] Call my pasty as not white.
[00:39:43] Look at me.
[00:39:45] I know have you met an Albanian man before?
[00:39:52] Have you met a Turkish man before I know this how it goes
[00:39:57] Anyway
[00:40:02] Bro Chatterney's the realized one thought 1.5 K years. It's it wasn't exactly
[00:40:15] I hate that I'm hearing it from you after seeing that shit from my own eyes. I hope the anti-Semitism wasn't as bad as people
[00:40:22] Wasn't as bad for some people. No, I mean, I it's not completely there yet
[00:40:27] But I think is like as like a socio-political
[00:40:33] Construct the the whiteness is
[00:40:36] potentially shrinking a little bit, you know and
[00:40:39] like if you're
[00:40:40] If you're the guy in charge of these decisions, and it's usually the right wingers that are in charge of these decisions, right?
[00:40:46] Like they think about this and they're like, well, that's a small group of people to cut off, you know what I mean?
[00:40:53] Like white supremacists or just like people who define what whiteness is
[00:40:58] go off of vibes for the most part, but like it's an ever-expanding concept, right?
[00:41:02] And you could shrink it at times and who are you gonna shrink it on?
[00:41:07] Well, Jewish people are not that large of a percentage of the white population, right?
[00:41:13] It's like what, 6 million, 7 million give or take in the United States of America?
[00:41:19] That's not going to put a major dent, like if they were to decide Irish are not white.
[00:41:26] It's much more complicated to take the Irish out of the whiteness equation,
[00:41:31] equation, or the Italians out of the Whiteness equation, or, you know, the Polish out of the
[00:41:38] Whiteness equation. You are wrong. You will never shrink after expanding. Who knows? I don't
[00:41:45] know. Whiteness is more easily identified by the ad group than those within it. It's easier
[00:41:50] to notice it when you're not invited, when we're not invited. Yeah.
[00:42:01] Remember when the Dems talked about dropping trans rights as an agenda item, even though
[00:42:04] they were barely even pro trans begin with the rights combo feels a lot like that. Yeah,
[00:42:08] the reason why I'm talking about this for the record is because it's kind of the hottest
[00:42:13] topic on the right currently. Obviously, they're not having this discourse or this
[00:42:18] debate on those exact same boundaries. Like they're not literally going our Jews white.
[00:42:22] Should we just consider them wider? Should we also consider them the marginalized group
[00:42:25] to fucking dunk on and, you know, go fully into this like Nazi stuff, right?
[00:42:31] That's not how they're having this discourse.
[00:42:34] I'm giving you a more streamlined approach here.
[00:42:38] I'm explaining exactly what the dynamic looks like, you know?
[00:42:46] And it is the major topic because Ben Shapiro was the first speaker at Turning Point USA
[00:42:52] this past weekend.
[00:42:53] Marifes took place, first turning point USA conference after Charlie Kirk got assassinated,
[00:42:58] right? And there was a shit ton of drama coming into it. There was a shit ton of drama leading
[00:43:03] into it. And basically Ben came out was the first major speaker after Erica Kirk. And
[00:43:11] right after Ben came out and, you know, dagger conspiracy theories and like,
[00:43:15] You know, people being anti-Semitic and stuff, every single major speaker, every single major
[00:43:24] speaker that came after Ben Shapiro, including Tucker Carlson, who spoke immediately after
[00:43:30] Ben Shapiro, they all attacked Ben. Every single one, every single one literally was like,
[00:43:37] shut your bitch ass up. What is this cancer culture nonsense? Of course we're going to have a big
[00:43:42] tent. And that tent is going to have some opinions you don't agree with. They basically
[00:43:48] made Ben look like a woke lord. And in some ways, Ben is a woke lord because Ben, I think,
[00:43:58] forgot that if you're not like fully a white Christian man in the United States of America,
[00:44:05] you are still in some instances a token. And tokens always get spent. And it's
[00:44:10] ironic because Ben should have known that because he has hired many tokens. Candace Owens
[00:44:15] being one of them, right? And if you are going to play that role, you have to play ball.
[00:44:24] If you're going to play that role, you have to play ball. But he was so confident in his
[00:44:28] permanent status as a force of whiteness that he thought that this hatred that he
[00:44:35] was fomenting would not inevitably go back and and decide that his group his social group
[00:44:44] his uh uh in group would not be identified as a as an op right and it goes this may sound
[00:44:57] like a weird take but if Jews do lose white status then it's like open season on black
[00:45:00] and brown people things already aren't great for us bro we're all gonna get etched to
[00:45:03] I think a little bit. Yes. My point is when I say like Jews are about to lose white status. I don't mean that they're going to automatically turn into, you know, the way that like white supremacy looks at black and brown people, they're just going to, they're going to be like Muslims, you know, like there's varying degrees of oppression here.
[00:45:25] here. But my point is, and it's not here yet, right? It hasn't fully gotten here yet, but
[00:45:39] it's very obvious that the Republicans are making this calculation right now. And I think
[00:45:48] Ultimately, it'll be conservative Jews who play that role of being a token that will remain in the coalition.
[00:45:58] And those who actually think that people have to be woke about anti-Semitism will get cast aside. And Ben Shapiro clearly has made the wrong calculation.
[00:46:08] But it's interesting for Ben Shapiro because Ben Shapiro has hired Candace Owens and other
[00:46:16] black people in the past for the Daily Wire to literally play that role.
[00:46:21] Black people that, you know, foment anti-black conspiracy theories, racialized hatred towards
[00:46:27] black people.
[00:46:29] So you have to do that yourself, Ben.
[00:46:31] You have to be the Jewish guy who says, yeah, our people are a little sneaky, you know.
[00:46:37] That's what you got to do.
[00:46:38] Otherwise, they're going to cut you as well.
[00:46:41] That's how it works.
[00:46:42] And you know that's how it works because you've literally participated in this process when
[00:46:47] you hired other people who were non-white to do white supremacist propaganda.
[00:46:54] So it's really interesting watching this dynamic play out.
[00:46:56] I've been thinking about this quite a bit.
[00:47:02] On the one hand, he made this bed and on the other hand, he does not want to lay
[00:47:06] in the bed, right? So, but one thing is clear, the right, even turning point USA, which this
[00:47:15] was Charlie's greatest fear, right? Charlie's greatest fear always was all these, the fucking,
[00:47:21] the base is going to demand way more, way more anti-Semitism and maybe even, you know,
[00:47:28] cutting ties off with Israel or whatever. How do we fix that? How do we figure that
[00:47:32] out. And Ben thought he could, you know, bring people back to where things were in like 2003.
[00:47:43] America's a Judeo-Christian nation founded on Judeo-Christian values. Like he thought he could
[00:47:47] get away with that. Turns out for the real ones, they've moved past it. Okay. They're like,
[00:47:54] like you're not on the team little bro and that was clear from Tucker Carlson to
[00:48:02] Megan Kelly to Steve Bannon to even JD Vance who tried to play this like a
[00:48:07] middle ground role as the final speaker is the major speaker at this event
[00:48:13] basically everyone said no we're gonna talk to Nick Flentes we're gonna talk
[00:48:17] to anti-semites you can't tell us we can't do that shut the fuck up so
[00:48:23] So, that's where we're at and you will see, you will see more and more people I think
[00:48:39] on the right who want to stay on, who want to basically continue presenting this like
[00:48:48] weird you can't you have to be anti-woke for everyone but the Jews as narratives and they will just keep getting pushed aside
[00:48:58] because the market clearly doesn't want that the market demands more Jewish pandering
[00:49:04] Jewish people pandering to the right is how I feel about terfs to law like you know you're siding with the most misages of people that are not all on your side right yeah exactly
[00:49:18] check log please I got turning point T let's see it okay you just Erica has been busted
[00:49:27] lying about our dating history one exes died one with the lead writer of the paper Charlie
[00:49:30] was beefing with he now works with turning and has someone as the same position as his
[00:49:35] former job okay you really spam the fuck out of those logs dude look at this logs log
[00:49:41] log logs god damn yeah we know we know the Erica Kirk dating history is like a little
[00:49:48] crazy. Um, but yeah, we'll obviously talk about Nicki Minaj who performed at Turning Point USA.
[00:49:55] And by that, I mean it was a, it was an incredible performance. Let's take a look at her latest song
[00:50:00] that's coming out. Yo, yo, can I get that wall? Can I get that must? Can I get those jeans? Can I
[00:50:05] get that truck? Can I get that market wall on a loop loop loop? Can I get ice all around the
[00:50:08] U USA? I was like, Trump, hey, do you think you can put a red hat on a bar bay? Okay,
[00:50:15] Okay, let's get it now, I'm with the magas, we in a church
[00:50:17] I don't say hi, say we Charlie Kirk, we Charlie Kirk, we Charlie Kirk
[00:50:21] Motherfuckin' white, I'm a motherfuckin' turf
[00:50:22] If a noose come get q, I'm a rip'n
[00:50:24] Tweet a lot of tweets that I'm in, yell diss'n, diss'n, diss'n
[00:50:26] Then yell diss'n, then make every kid be trans-a-chase
[00:50:29] Excuse me, I'm sorry, I'm really such a sweetie
[00:50:32] I rap Republicans, you know Sydney, Sweeney
[00:50:35] And we be givin' donuts to the police on the daily
[00:50:38] We give a lot of money to Elon Donnell, then J.D. Yellen
[00:50:42] All around the states, do you hear me?
[00:50:45] everybody hates the lgbt
[00:50:48] busting peace to my old stances
[00:50:50] yes my beer i fear the trans kids
[00:50:52] they hide it head and want the santis
[00:50:53] now which one of you men go part of my manses
[00:50:56] i mean this is
[00:50:58] it's kind of fire
[00:51:02] the dipshit mega rapper is mad he didn't make this
[00:51:05] no this is like
[00:51:06] it goes to show that
[00:51:08] it goes to show that obviously
[00:51:10] clearly, clearly
[00:51:12] know, the old flow and the old bars are not going to carry over into the new Nicki Minaj
[00:51:23] MAGA pivot. Okay. That's all I'm saying because when you look at like right wing rappers and
[00:51:31] their output, it doesn't come near the original song that this person is, is obviously recreating.
[00:51:39] It's just not, it's just not gonna happen.
[00:51:41] It's gonna be like Nicki Minaj collabing
[00:51:44] with fucking Tom McDonald, like are you kidding me?
[00:51:48] Are you fucking kidding me?
[00:51:49] There is no way that she will make a song like this.
[00:51:53] Had to pause because I shit my pants.
[00:51:55] Let me know how far behind I am.
[00:52:01] What is this?
[00:52:02] You're in the thumbnail of this latest lefty video.
[00:52:07] Harper O'Connor.
[00:52:10] Not even close how the left can win the media war. Oh
[00:52:15] Wow, okay, I'll watch this is a fucking I don't know if it's like pro or anti, but you know
[00:52:24] How leftist can reclaim self-improvement I love that oh the Che Guevara method I love that
[00:52:31] This guy's a tool. I don't think so especially because
[00:52:36] Because one of the top videos I just saw is literally self-improvement, which is one of
[00:52:42] my favorite concepts on the left that often gets very little coverage.
[00:52:47] And he's using Che Guevara as an example of someone who literally had anti-black views
[00:52:52] early on in his life and wrote about it and then very clearly was not racist by the
[00:53:00] end of his life.
[00:53:01] he went through this transformation and I think it's a beautiful story. That's not true.
[00:53:10] Yes, it is. What are you talking about? He did. He was Argentinian from a fucking relatively
[00:53:14] wealthy family. He absolutely says some racist ass shit, but it doesn't matter because
[00:53:20] he spent most of his adult life after liberating Cuba fighting all around the world, specifically
[00:53:27] in Africa as well. Okay? It is a great example. It is a great example of, of
[00:53:43] retribution, rehabilitation. It's a, it's a story that I try to tell all the time.
[00:53:50] And it's one that I, it's one that I even bring up with, with respect to some
[00:53:55] of the chatter is in here right like I've talked about I talked about Quentin
[00:54:02] Quarantino the Instagram page right like he went from post October 7 being like
[00:54:08] somewhat resistant to call out Israel and maybe even assuming that even
[00:54:13] someone who he had tuned into and watched for many many years he thought
[00:54:18] was potentially anti-Semitic to someone who literally went on the Gaza
[00:54:22] as a Samud flotilla and was arrested by the Israeli state.
[00:54:25] That transformation took over two years, but it would not have happened if we weren't more
[00:54:29] welcoming.
[00:54:30] And I think it's an incredible thing that we see transformations like that.
[00:54:35] It comes from a place of understanding that people's initial conditions should not
[00:54:43] dictate or initial positions should not dictate who they are for the rest of their
[00:54:47] lives.
[00:54:48] understanding that there is a growth that we everyone has the capability of
[00:54:51] growing and and improving themselves and and helping others and becoming
[00:54:56] wonderful allies in this cause and this is something that I will always push
[00:55:00] for and it was it's something that I will consistently consistently advocate
[00:55:04] for and I think it's one of the worst aspects of unfortunately the way we do
[00:55:10] any sort of analysis on the left. So, in any case, does MAGA know that Nikki was an undocumented
[00:55:25] kid? I did not know that. I didn't know that either. Anyway, but yeah, so turning point USA
[00:55:31] conference took place like I was saying. And, and one of the points that I was going to make
[00:55:36] is that there is obviously a lot of back and forth a lot of you know a lot of
[00:55:40] drama that is that has taken place there are a lot of there's a lot of drama
[00:55:48] that's taking place on turning point USA conference obviously Nicki Minaj speaking
[00:55:51] at turning point USA is a big deal and there was a moment where she actually
[00:55:56] had a little oopsie as well where she called JD Vanson assassin and I think
[00:56:00] Candace Owens is probably gonna use that to her advantage I suspect but
[00:56:05] Yeah, she did. She spoke, she was like the keynote,
[00:56:08] one of the keynote speakers of the Turning Point USA conference.
[00:56:12] I guess President Trump also made some surprise remarks over the phone.
[00:56:15] Let's take a look.
[00:56:17] He may not be here today, but I wanted to make sure he had a chance to say hi.
[00:56:24] Mr. President?
[00:56:26] Hello, everybody. Hello, everybody.
[00:56:30] Can you guys hear me?
[00:56:32] I wanna be with you, but I'll be with you soon, and I just wanna say that nobody-
[00:56:38] Oh, I wanna be with you.
[00:56:42] Oh, hello everybody.
[00:56:44] That's so funny, dude.
[00:56:45] He is fucking- What is happening, bro?
[00:56:49] What is happening, bro?
[00:56:52] Is this AI?
[00:56:53] He would never call his fail son?
[00:56:54] Yeah, obviously he would never call his fail son for a normal conversation, but
[00:56:58] they probably did this specifically so that he could speak at the turning point USA conference.
[00:57:03] The only time he's picking up his dumb ass son's phone call is when he knows he's on
[00:57:08] stage at the turning point USA conference so he can speak to his fucking admiring fans,
[00:57:13] you know.
[00:57:14] Get more from me than Charlie and there's nobody better than Erica and you are the
[00:57:19] greatest people on earth.
[00:57:21] We won in a landslide and we're going to continue to do it and I just want to
[00:57:25] thank everybody you got out there.
[00:57:27] He's so excited because it feels like he's talking to his dad on the phone, you know,
[00:57:32] private.
[00:57:33] Awesome private shit.
[00:57:35] Like you can tell, you can tell he's stoked because this is the one time he gets to talk
[00:57:40] to Pappy.
[00:57:42] Like daddy doesn't talk to him at all.
[00:57:43] Daddy doesn't give him the same love that he gives to Baron.
[00:57:46] He fucking hates that.
[00:57:49] Not on some parasocial shit, but like daddy is not answering the fucking phone ever,
[00:57:54] right?
[00:57:55] Unless he's at the turning point USA conference speaking in front of a crowd of that. He's biggest fans
[00:58:02] They voted and they trust doorbells
[00:58:05] And I just want to thank you all and I hope my son's doing a good job representing the other ones
[00:58:11] I have to say you're fired
[00:58:14] Even then he's got to get a dig in
[00:58:18] What's my shit ass son doing oh god
[00:58:21] I'd be better be doing it good as good job. Otherwise, otherwise it's over. I know he's
[00:58:32] a bit of a failure.
[00:58:34] So thank you very much and have a great day.
[00:58:37] He keeps finding my phone number. I keep hiding it. I keep getting a new phone. I say new
[00:58:43] New phone, who this?
[00:58:46] I say new phone, who this?
[00:58:48] And he says, it's your son, I say, Baron, you sound different.
[00:58:54] He says, no daddy.
[00:58:56] And as soon as he says no daddy, I can hear the coke jaw
[00:59:02] cackling on the other side of the phone.
[00:59:05] I hate it, I hate it.
[00:59:07] I keep telling JD, JD, do not give.
[00:59:10] Do not give Don Jr. my phone number, the new one.
[00:59:15] Don't do it.
[00:59:18] JD, stop giving Don Jr. the new phone number
[00:59:23] that I keep getting.
[00:59:25] Hey, and I hope Don makes a great speech.
[00:59:27] If he doesn't make a great speech,
[00:59:29] let me know about it.
[00:59:30] I'll give him hell.
[00:59:34] Oh, Dad, there's literally-
[00:59:35] Everybody talk, talk, have a good time,
[00:59:37] and say hello to Erica.
[00:59:38] Go have a good time, everybody.
[00:59:40] Well, there's 30,000 young patriots in this room.
[00:59:45] Dad, we see that room, bro.
[00:59:46] That is not young, okay?
[00:59:48] Let's be real.
[00:59:51] Let's be fucking real.
[00:59:53] The movement continues.
[00:59:54] They're looking forward to supporting you
[00:59:56] and everything that you, Charlie,
[00:59:58] and really everyone that's part
[01:00:00] of this movement stands for.
[01:00:01] So thanks, Dad.
[01:00:02] We appreciate it.
[01:00:03] We love you.
[01:00:04] We'll speak to you soon.
[01:00:05] Thank you very much.
[01:00:06] And thank you very much, everybody.
[01:00:08] We love you.
[01:00:09] have a great Christmas.
[01:00:11] Thanks, Adam. We love you.
[01:00:13] Thank you.
[01:00:17] So, yeah.
[01:00:19] Nicki Minaj, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:00:21] Nicki Minaj.
[01:00:23] The Nicki Minaj.
[01:00:27] I think I have a tie-in to this with Dave Chappelle,
[01:00:31] because I've never been like a barber or anything.
[01:00:33] I've never been like a massive Nicki Minaj fan
[01:00:35] at any point in my life,
[01:00:37] But I was a massive Dave Chappelle fan in my, uh, at some point in my life.
[01:00:41] And I do think that like, uh, there is somewhat of a comparison here that we can
[01:00:45] make obviously Dave Chappelle nowhere near as bad as Nicki Minaj.
[01:00:48] That's not my point at all.
[01:00:50] Uh, I'm not, I'm not making that comparison, but like from my perspective,
[01:00:54] I understand when your goat is washed.
[01:00:58] Okay.
[01:01:00] That's all I'm saying.
[01:01:01] I, I know what it's like when you're fucking goat is washed.
[01:01:06] okay when you're like why what are you doing right and i know people have gone through this people
[01:01:16] have gone through this uh with with other incredibly talented people do not say that about lebron how
[01:01:23] fucking dare you okay no lebron is not washed shut up why why would you bring up lebron right
[01:01:30] now okay the white supremacy is off the fucking charts you might as well as still be a nikim
[01:01:35] and I stand and be MAGA the entire way. If you're just going to randomly bring up LeBron
[01:01:41] James when we're having a goat wash conversation, he is not washed. Shut up. Okay. Shut up.
[01:01:57] Listen,
[01:02:01] wash them, ball, take the L, stop, stop with your racism,
[01:02:04] stop with your racism, time out, stop the hate, time out,
[01:02:08] time out, stop the hate, stop the hate,
[01:02:12] stop the racism, time out, okay, time out on hate.
[01:02:17] Anyway, grandpa out here in Rage Brother Facts, stop it.
[01:02:22] Anyway, um, I'm watched, say I'm watched, I am watched, you can say I'm watched every
[01:02:34] day.
[01:02:35] Do not say LeBron is watched.
[01:02:36] Okay.
[01:02:37] So what I was saying, uh, is, is I understand when, you know, someone who has been very
[01:02:42] impactful in your life, in your development, someone you like admire, someone who's music,
[01:02:49] you know, played a big role and you come into terms with things in reality, you know, got
[01:02:56] you through hard times or whatever. Like I, I don't personally understand it. Like I don't
[01:03:00] have a direct musical equivalent, but I get how people operate, right? But I think it's
[01:03:08] time to just give up, you know? It's like the Gucci bag meme. This is a give up. It's
[01:03:15] over, you know, is stop trying to tie knots on there. Noam Chomsky, another great example
[01:03:20] of this, you know, sometimes you, you realize that if you're goats or if people that are
[01:03:27] influential in your life, uh, have, have lived long lives and had storied careers
[01:03:35] at a certain point in that time frame, they're just going to turn not so great.
[01:03:42] Okay.
[01:03:44] Noam Chomsky is another example of this.
[01:03:47] Uh, obviously, uh, yeah, Radiohead, that's another good example of this too.
[01:03:57] It's just how it is.
[01:03:58] It is how it is.
[01:04:00] Uh, Nikki has been cringe for over a decade on understand how people are
[01:04:03] taking this hard.
[01:04:04] think she's never placed a flag on one side this hard. I think that's what it
[01:04:14] is. That's basically like she's never she's never fully leaned into it so I
[01:04:22] think a lot of people who aren't like tapped in to all of like the other
[01:04:26] stuff that Nicki Minaj has done who just like simply listened to the music
[01:04:29] or whatever have, have never seen her go this hard. Okay. Cause this is going beyond like
[01:04:37] tweeting about how Nigerian Christians are under attack and like how Donald Trump is
[01:04:43] going to save the Nigerian Christians. Like she's not even tweeting this shit anymore.
[01:04:46] She's just like straight up saying, I make a menage and MAGA. I love MAGA. I love
[01:04:53] Donald Trump. I'm going on the turning point USA conference. Like I'm doing the damn
[01:04:58] thing, right? I'm glad you're talking about this because I left this over with some savior syndrome
[01:05:09] over the past decade and we need to come to terms with policies for being tools for our collective
[01:05:12] liberation and non-perfect angels. Yes, and yeah, big Kyrie news I know. Yeah, yeah, I know. And see,
[01:05:20] some people are cutting that, you know what I mean? Some people are going, no, that's too much,
[01:05:26] Right? That's a bit much. So,
[01:05:31] I have a Mavar Nikki, she's just obsessed over trans politics and that was her radicalization
[01:05:35] point. No, no, I think hers is more, I think hers is just more open-minded, transparent, grift.
[01:05:44] I don't think there was like an individual point of radicalization. I think she's always been
[01:05:47] like kind of kooky on some issues, but yeah, Zoomers don't remember, Nikki used to be a
[01:05:53] feminist and LGBTQ plus icon girl was calling on sexism back in 2010 and I think like yeah she's
[01:06:00] you know she has a two different pedophile like sex offenders in her orbit her husband and her
[01:06:11] brother I believe and I think that's probably the reason why maybe she got like a little bit
[01:06:16] radicalized during COVID but like that is mostly what's motivating this right I think that's
[01:06:23] Think that's the the major reason as to why she's she's doing this stuff. Anyway, so
[01:06:29] Like I don't think that the
[01:06:31] Christian she got that Christian brain rod like I don't think the Christian brain rod is real
[01:06:35] I don't think it's genuine. I think it's more so just like she's leaning into the pro-trump grift, right?
[01:06:44] And
[01:06:45] The reason why I'm saying this because like obviously I have this on the docket here
[01:06:49] But like I've called out Nicki Minaj before during COVID and I noticed this like right-wing pivot coming from a mile away
[01:06:56] And the Barb's fucking destroyed me for it. And that was like four years ago
[01:07:01] Okay, but I also am very understanding that like people just don't want to let go people don't want to give up on this and and I think this is
[01:07:09] basically the the last
[01:07:12] This is the last line of defense like there's no more plausible
[01:07:15] about her politics or anything like that.
[01:07:18] And you're just totally delusional
[01:07:20] if you're still leaning into it, right?
[01:07:25] So, Nicki Minaj goes on Turning Point USA Conference
[01:07:29] after like the spending the last couple of months
[01:07:32] glazing the Trump administration.
[01:07:34] And there is still like amongst the barbs,
[01:07:36] there's still a lot of like,
[01:07:38] is she actually fully leaning in?
[01:07:40] What is she doing?
[01:07:41] Maybe there's an alternative reason for this.
[01:07:44] for this maybe she's like you know going up against uh what's the other you know big record
[01:07:50] label that she's like fighting or whatever you know jay-z and and uh Beyonce like oh that's
[01:07:57] probably the reason she needs like powerful allies because she's going against like rock
[01:08:00] nation all this stuff right like i i don't think it's like that okay
[01:08:04] Okay.
[01:08:05] So those of you who know, Charlie was very good about having a surprise for-
[01:08:16] She has no case against Rock Nation, bro.
[01:08:18] Brother, I'm not saying she has a case against Rock Nation.
[01:08:22] I'm saying that that is what her fans were coping with.
[01:08:28] Okay.
[01:08:29] How do you know all this?
[01:08:31] It's so impressive, Law.
[01:08:32] That's my job to know.
[01:08:35] Every time there's a, every time, look, look, we are opening the door a little bit and peering
[01:08:40] into at least like rap culture, wouldn't say black culture, but like rap culture a little
[01:08:44] bit.
[01:08:45] Okay.
[01:08:46] And as a primarily Caucasian audience, I'm trying to guide you through this journey in
[01:08:48] the most open minded way possible.
[01:08:52] But the reality of the matter is, yes, rock nation is like, is, is anytime something
[01:09:00] happen is people go, oh, Rock Nation got this person, right? There's a couple, there's
[01:09:06] a couple different tropes, or a couple different like conspiracies. One of the one of the
[01:09:13] famous ones, one of the classic ones is if there's like a like a pivotal black figure,
[01:09:18] like iconic figure that is busted for doing some fuck shit. Sometimes old heads will
[01:09:23] say, oh, that person was on the verge of like buying an NFL team or something.
[01:09:27] That's the reason why they destroyed him or he was on the verge of like purchasing a TV channel or something like they just don't want
[01:09:34] You know, they just don't want black people to be in positions of prominence and and and there is some truth to that obviously or there is
[01:09:42] definitely some truth to like the hyperscrutiny that
[01:09:45] That that famous black people receive as opposed to famous white people in similar circumstances
[01:09:50] So there is like a little bit of truth to that but it's usually just like a conspiracy theory and then the other conspiracy theory always is
[01:09:56] is rock nation. So, and, and, and, you know, rock nation is like the powerful entity behind
[01:10:06] all of these things. And all of these other people that are like constantly battling against
[01:10:12] this big powerful corporation, Illuminati, that sort of stuff, right? Anyway, so in
[01:10:19] In any case, I think with Nicki Minaj is much more simple than all these conspiracies.
[01:10:30] I think she's pivoting.
[01:10:33] I think she's pivoting in a way where she wants allies and she wants the right wing
[01:10:42] movement to back her.
[01:10:44] I think it's partially because she's a little bit older and a little bit more
[01:10:48] washed now that she's slower on the trends.
[01:10:52] Like she's almost become a mega corporation herself, right?
[01:10:56] In her, in all of her career, for those of you who don't know,
[01:10:59] obviously, Nicki Minaj was like almost like a, like a standalone, um,
[01:11:04] almost like a, like a standalone figurehead for, for black women in this
[01:11:08] space that was predominantly occupied by men, uh, for a very long time.
[01:11:13] Okay, so she was seen as like a champion for for women and and for the queers and that's why her audience is very
[01:11:21] Her audience has always been very gay very clear
[01:11:25] and and
[01:11:27] Obviously that that dynamic shifted a lot and then there's you know a lot of friction with other younger artists that came after her and
[01:11:34] The way she dealt with it wasn't great
[01:11:38] Okay, all this stuff
[01:11:43] Anyway, yeah, from Cardi B to Megan Thee Stallion and numerous others, so.
[01:11:52] But that's, that's all, you know, we're talking about almost two decades of a media Titans career, right?
[01:12:02] All of that is now basically in the rear view mirror. And I think
[01:12:06] Now a days she's trying to rest on the laurels of her former success while simultaneously move into different directions, right?
[01:12:21] And part of that is, part of that is this right wing grift, it seems.
[01:12:27] Um, the, the sincere attitude change from I think Nicki Minaj is, uh, like initially
[01:12:37] that came from, I think maybe COVID check on him, bro.
[01:12:41] No, I did.
[01:12:42] I DM, I texted him this.
[01:12:44] I saw this rage.
[01:12:46] Do you think Nikki and Erica Kirk, IRL collab winning best stream collab of 2026.
[01:12:52] Like yeah, that's what I mean like rage is a
[01:12:55] Rage is a little bit of a barb little Nas X was a barb or probably I don't know if he still is but like
[01:13:00] You know a lot of these people doesn't rage hate you to know what the fuck we just did a podcast together
[01:13:05] No, of course. He doesn't hate me anyway
[01:13:08] So there are a lot of you know, there are a lot of people who grew up in Nicki Minaj
[01:13:15] There are a lot of people in here that were probably barbs at some point and I assume that you know given how
[01:13:21] given how how tapped in one might be to politics they probably pulled the the
[01:13:28] ripcord out way way longer than many are currently right the timing of this
[01:13:36] right-wing pivot unironically is is the worst for Nicki Minaj because like
[01:13:41] woke is coming back right is not a little bit of a barblam out he got on
[01:13:46] his knees when he met Nikki on Kai shim I know it's impossible to ignore our
[01:13:50] contributions to culture but she has gone off the deep end exactly exactly exactly
[01:13:55] but she has been off the deep end for quite a while but now she's like fucking
[01:14:01] fully dove into the deep end and is saying this is where I'm at so this
[01:14:07] becomes unavoidable for a lot of people even if you are constantly doing the
[01:14:12] the Kanye West style like he made graduation he made graduation he made
[01:14:16] graduation for Nicki Minaj, like this is the, this is one step before you, you know, for
[01:14:24] for many of the fans, the moment that you do stuff like this, it becomes unavoidable.
[01:14:32] You have, you've staked your claim, battle lines are drawn, you have decided this is
[01:14:38] who you are, and this is the movement that you are going to be a part of, right? Has
[01:14:44] this made Ben Shapiro cave on his wall position. Nobody cares about Ben Shapiro's position
[01:14:48] on anything little bro because Ben Shapiro is washed. Okay. He is the most washed. The
[01:14:56] right would literally crucify Ben if it meant more Nicki Minaj time. Okay. Are you kidding
[01:15:03] me? Ben is gone. It's over. In any case, let's take a look at what some of this conversation
[01:15:13] every infest and we we are so blessed to have you we are so grateful i mean i'm
[01:15:24] honored to be here i am honored to be here thank you for having me
[01:15:30] that's love you guys
[01:15:36] So we're just gonna dive right into this you had
[01:15:44] Cultural driving forces are never gonna be on the right no matter how hard they try. I'm sorry. Okay
[01:15:52] People who formerly might have actually
[01:15:55] contributed to culture in meaningful ways
[01:15:57] Once they're fucking once they're losing all the glory might actually pivot to the right
[01:16:02] but it's very obvious that for the most part a lot of the art and a lot of the
[01:16:08] culture is still moving because there are a lot of woke people from
[01:16:14] progressive backgrounds that are you know the people at the the people that
[01:16:19] who are at the beginnings of their careers the people who are the people
[01:16:25] who are working hard you know moving and shaking culture right now people
[01:16:30] with actual motion, they're not gonna do that, okay?
[01:16:36] And we're talking about the arts.
[01:16:38] We're not talking about podcasting.
[01:16:39] You can dominate the podcasting sphere.
[01:16:41] You can dominate the media sphere
[01:16:42] with right wing sentiment all day, every day.
[01:16:45] But we're talking about art, okay?
[01:16:49] That's it.
[01:16:50] And that's precisely the reason why
[01:16:52] conservatives will grab onto any celebrity
[01:16:56] that's not like fucking Kevin Sorbo
[01:16:58] and celebrate the fact that they're like openly becoming right wing, okay?
[01:17:04] Some fun words for Governor Newsom.
[01:17:11] I just, I have to read these tweets because they are amazing and they are so funny.
[01:17:21] Okay, first one, we'll do this one.
[01:17:24] one. Wow. Well, banger after banger. Thanks, Erica. You have a real commanding. You have a
[01:17:35] real commanding presence, Erica. Let's read some of your funny tweets about JD Vance.
[01:17:43] It's...sauce-less, bro.
[01:17:46] Sauce-less.
[01:17:47] This shit is washed.
[01:17:49] It's motionless.
[01:17:50] It's boring as fuck.
[01:17:52] Oh, my God.
[01:17:55] Unless you want to read it in your own voice, I think it'd be really great.
[01:18:00] Okay.
[01:18:01] Oh, Gaby-Poo, it only gets worse from here for you, buddy.
[01:18:06] It's the end of the road for you, my love.
[01:18:09] Get on the nearest jet ski and let that beautiful hair blow in the wind.
[01:18:13] It'll make you happier than this race that you will not win in.
[01:18:22] I need every barb to watch this. Okay.
[01:18:26] And then watch this over and over again.
[01:18:28] And then tell me if they're still on board. There ain't no way. Okay.
[01:18:33] For the last, look,
[01:18:34] I got a dog in this fight myself personally cause I called this out a long time ago.
[01:18:37] I'll call this all the way back in 2021. Okay. And I got my ass beat.
[01:18:42] I'll admit it. I saw this pivot four years prior. Okay. And for the last four years, I
[01:18:51] have not been allowed near a Sephora because that's where all the barbs congregate. Okay,
[01:18:55] I can't go to a Sephora. I'm scared. I know that there's going to be someone who's 35
[01:19:03] years old with pink hair and is a barb who's going to stab me with a makeup pen
[01:19:11] straight to the fucking temple okay I can't do it I think I can go back to
[01:19:21] Sephora as comfortably now okay they killed us on Twitter bro we lost good
[01:19:28] soldiers in this war your own regulator got chewed out in the barb
[01:19:31] I've been getting my mom to get me pimple patches for four years because I can't go to fucking Sephora on my own because I'm scared. I'm scared of the barbs.
[01:19:47] Okay, let's be real.
[01:19:51] What is this?
[01:19:53] Yeah, that's from way back when when she did the whole cousins ballsack grew thing
[01:20:16] In all seriousness, I believe Nicki Minaj has been telling us who she was the whole
[01:20:27] time.
[01:20:28] The truth becomes the most obvious when you examine her verse from the song Monster.
[01:20:32] She mentions pulling up in a Tonka the color of Willy Wonka.
[01:20:35] She also states that the first thing she will do will be to eat your brains.
[01:20:39] Nicki Minaj is really RFK Junior's brain worm.
[01:20:42] This whole time, this whole time, it was right in front of us.
[01:20:51] Anyway, all right, let's give it up for you guys.
[01:20:57] Okay, okay, one more.
[01:21:03] One more.
[01:21:07] Imagine being the guy running on wanting to see trans kids.
[01:21:10] Not even a trans adult would run on that normal adults wake up and think they want to see healthy safe
[01:21:18] happy kids
[01:21:20] Not gav the gav not gav not in gav out
[01:21:26] Send in the next guy. I'm bored
[01:21:34] So I'm just gonna let you rip like I want you to say whatever you want to say
[01:21:38] Mr. Newscombe, we don't have a problem cleaning up the scum if we have to, please tread lightly.
[01:21:57] That's what I would say to Gaby Poo.
[01:22:03] So with regard to the current administration, what has been maybe the biggest surprise for
[01:22:12] you or something that you just really has been put on your heart that you've learned
[01:22:18] about our president and our vice president?
[01:22:21] Well, I have the utmost respect and admiration for our president.
[01:22:36] Oof.
[01:22:39] Oof.
[01:22:41] Bro, you think she's like, you think there's a point here where she's thinking like,
[01:22:48] The fuck am I doing man these people are clowns or you think she's just like fully in I feel like she's fully in
[01:22:56] She's in it
[01:23:01] It's just like
[01:23:03] There has to be a point where she looks back
[01:23:06] At her career and goes how do we get here?
[01:23:11] Like there has to be a point in this conversation where like there's a
[01:23:16] quick flashback to like
[01:23:18] your apex point, you know what I mean? Where you're just, you know, you're dominating, dominating culture.
[01:23:27] And now you're sitting across from Erica fucking Kirk at the toilet paper USA
[01:23:34] America conference talking about how you respect the pedophile president. Okay.
[01:23:40] Okay.
[01:23:43] Oof.
[01:23:45] Like an incredibly, incredibly unpopular pedopres.
[01:23:52] The problem with the barbs is that most of them
[01:23:54] have collapsed their entire identity into Nikki.
[01:23:56] Their whole worldview is filtered
[01:23:57] through whatever benefits are.
[01:23:58] So in this case, politics is a game to them.
[01:24:00] Not about material consequences,
[01:24:01] but about what Nikki can extract from it
[01:24:03] and which narrative about their queen they can win that day.
[01:24:06] They treat literally everything like a Stan War
[01:24:08] when it's so much more fucking serious than that.
[01:24:12] The people she's sharing a stage with
[01:24:13] who are doing so much damage to the country right now,
[01:24:16] do not like her fan bases people.
[01:24:18] Erica Kirk will sit there and smile in her face
[01:24:20] with that pageant queen grin,
[01:24:23] because what they like is the numbers
[01:24:24] and however they can amplify their hate.
[01:24:27] They're very identity,
[01:24:28] the very identity of probably most of the bars
[01:24:30] exactly with those movements vehemently opposed.
[01:24:33] Charlie Cork himself was against gay marriage
[01:24:34] and openly transphobic.
[01:24:36] Yet there's Nikki positioning herself there,
[01:24:38] throwing her fans under the bus, and it's really sad to watch them allow their fandom
[01:24:41] to get in the way of critical thinking about their own interests outside of that lady.
[01:24:45] 100% true. 100%. I noticed this as well. I noticed this as well. And it's really funny
[01:24:53] because like there are, there are people who have yelled at Nicki Minaj and her fanbase
[01:25:01] that are in that room that fucking despise her. There are people in that room that
[01:25:07] It despises every single Nicki Minaj fan.
[01:25:09] There are people in that room.
[01:25:11] The majority in that room thinks Nicki Minaj is output and her contributions to culture
[01:25:17] is disgusting, right?
[01:25:19] Barbaric, monstrous, morally degenerate, perverted, perverse.
[01:25:26] And yet they're excited because they're like, oh, it's a famous person, right?
[01:25:34] Charlie Kirk himself used to listen to Nicki Minaj in private, right alongside Candace Owens,
[01:25:41] but on camera, what was Charlie Kirk saying about Nicki Minaj? Exactly what Ben Shapiro
[01:25:49] was saying about Nicki Minaj. Here is the, the, okay, you want me to fucking watch the
[01:25:53] Instagram reel here, here, I will show you. I, obviously we, we got it. We were
[01:25:59] inevitably gonna get here okay yeah here it is here it is Charlie Kirk who we know
[01:26:05] in private was a major Nikki Stan here's what Charlie was saying in public
[01:26:10] though about Nicki Minaj this was you know when it when it came down to his
[01:26:14] output this is how we presented it Minaj Cardi B okay Nicki Minaj is
[01:26:18] causing dads to leave the home unless I don't think that's a good role model
[01:26:21] for 18 year old black girls I don't
[01:26:30] Well, I mean, I don't even know this might be a fucking
[01:26:43] I mean Nicky
[01:26:46] There is
[01:26:48] There is a
[01:26:50] Fuck ton of Charlie Kirk comments about Nicki Minaj general Candace always shares. Thanks, Mr
[01:26:55] Charlie Kirk. Yeah. Fanning out over Nicki Minaj and Jay-Z versus on monster. Right? So
[01:27:01] one must ask the question why Charlie Kirk's output, which is the most important part of
[01:27:05] this, not his like fandom and private, but his output. Why was he so antagonistic towards
[01:27:09] Nicki Minaj? Why was he always fucking shitting on Nicki Minaj? The barb's going to crucify
[01:27:13] you. I think the barbs need to fucking take a cold hard reality check, which is
[01:27:18] not going to come for many of the bars. If they're holding on at this point, they're
[01:27:22] holding on for dear life they're never gonna fucking um they're just they're
[01:27:27] just gonna lean into the MAGA shit now I guess you're just gonna have a bunch
[01:27:30] of barbs who are now MAGA right alongside Nikki
[01:27:47] yeah they're going down with the ship their ship is singing and they're
[01:27:49] going down with it. She defends pedos, hates unsustainable black women, starts beef with
[01:27:53] barbs, or starts beef with babies, is transphobic. Of course, she's shutting on stage at toilet
[01:27:59] paper USA. I would expect nothing less of this point. Goddamn, 80, $9,000. I wonder if the
[01:28:04] multiple losses she's embroiled in the damages owed has anything to do with her pressing
[01:28:08] the pedal on the MAGA grift. Judge made for sale a Nicki Minaj's $20 million so-called
[01:28:12] imagine over debt owed to form a security guard.
[01:28:18] Stand culture turned to brain rot. Stand culture always turns to brain rot. My point is,
[01:28:23] my point is, I am in favor of Louis Pozzano's take on this. I think this assessment is much
[01:28:30] more important because a lot of the people that are still invested in what Nicki Minaj does,
[01:28:42] As as you know this this 5d chess play or whatever like oh she must be
[01:28:49] Leaning into the Trump side and the Maggard grift like if you are holding on at that point
[01:28:55] Nothing will get you off the train right
[01:28:57] But you also have to understand if you're holding on at this point if you're holding on at this point
[01:29:04] you're basically
[01:29:07] Celebrating your own demise, okay
[01:29:10] Okay. You are aggressively celebrating a movement and a person that's like staking their claim
[01:29:18] and their reputation on a movement that is choosing to put the crosshairs on you. Okay.
[01:29:25] That's it. That's it. What if he keeps spamming the reddit link? They will patch the whole.
[01:29:39] I don't know what you're talking about.
[01:29:43] Kai is pulling up literally where did her head go?
[01:29:45] She's, oh, she just woke up, she's sleeping.
[01:29:50] It made me wake her up.
[01:30:00] Anyway, let's keep going.
[01:30:02] He has, I don't know if he even knows this,
[01:30:07] But he's given so many people hope that there's a chance to beat the bad guys and to win and to do it with your head held high and your integrity intact.
[01:30:28] He's from Queens, New York, like me.
[01:30:31] So, but what it's shown me personally is sometimes, you know, even in the worst feeling times in
[01:30:43] your life, you think that you're never going to come back from it.
[01:30:47] But you do.
[01:30:49] And our president shows that.
[01:30:52] He's been through every single thing a person can be through publicly.
[01:30:58] and to constantly be lied on.
[01:31:03] It's not really that funny.
[01:31:06] Until you are in that person's shoes that's being lied on,
[01:31:11] you'll never understand what it feels like.
[01:31:14] That person is a human being.
[01:31:15] They have a family who has to read those lies.
[01:31:19] Jesus Christ, dude.
[01:31:23] Oh my God.
[01:31:25] bro this literally you know what this feels like to me this is like everyone yelled at me so much that I became right wing like this is the oh you're making me do this meme right
[01:31:39] Oh, well, you know people just kept saying I married a pedophile, which is fucking true, right?
[01:31:48] and
[01:31:50] And now now you forced my hand and
[01:31:55] That's not it's just not fair
[01:31:58] But look what you made me do
[01:32:04] Administration is full of people with heart and soul
[01:32:09] And they make me proud of them our vice president. He makes me well. I love both of them
[01:32:18] they're both
[01:32:20] powerful men
[01:32:22] Smart John all that but both of them have a very
[01:32:26] Also when people say like oh these people get lied on it's like first of all every public figure gets lied on myself included. Okay
[01:32:34] Sometimes they're not lies like in your case. Okay
[01:32:39] Having said that, this shouldn't change your fucking world view or your convictions, and also, if we're talking about like,
[01:32:46] oh, these people get lied on but they're such wonderful people and you're talking about Donald Trump,
[01:32:51] the entire Trump train moves by lying about entire swaths of the population.
[01:32:57] These are the motherfuckers that literally ran on. We are going to purge the boundaries of all migrants
[01:33:03] And also that Haitians are eating cats and fucking dogs. Okay, what is that if not a lie?
[01:33:11] It's a lie that JD Vance who Nicki Minaj right now is saying is a such a handsome man and such a cool person
[01:33:20] unironically admitted was a lie
[01:33:22] JD Vance straight up went on television was like it's a lie that Haitians are eating cats and dogs
[01:33:27] But honestly, I'll keep saying that lie as long as people start paying attention to you know
[01:33:33] So black people migrating into the country, it's bullshit.
[01:33:38] It's fucking insane.
[01:33:44] I hate this kind of, this oversimplification, right?
[01:33:48] The oversimplification of like, well, you know, people are just like speaking ill of
[01:33:52] his name.
[01:33:56] I hate that people are speaking ill of Donald Trump's name.
[01:33:59] You know, these are good guys.
[01:34:00] It's like, what do you mean?
[01:34:01] They speak ill of entire broad swaths of the population.
[01:34:05] And they don't just like talk shit about entire broad swaths of the population.
[01:34:10] They take action.
[01:34:11] Their words turn into action.
[01:34:13] Their words turn into mass deportation.
[01:34:15] Their words turn into fucking initiatives that harm people directly.
[01:34:20] I can relate to them.
[01:34:21] When I hear them speak, I know that they're one of us.
[01:34:23] Like, I know that they're not...
[01:34:24] Don't you guys agree?
[01:34:26] They haven't lost touch of the world.
[01:34:30] They're still connected to the world and what's happening in the world with the younger people and older people with the richer people
[01:34:35] And not so rich people they have the ability to still connect and be real and make us feel proud to be American
[01:34:45] So why now have you have you been involved with speaking about politics, what was kind of the the turning point for you
[01:34:52] What was the turning point? Well, I just got tired of being pushed around
[01:35:00] Sometimes you just get tired of it and then you realize, wait a minute, I have something
[01:35:06] inside of me that's stronger than what's out there.
[01:35:11] That's right.
[01:35:12] So yeah, but those lies are about poor brown people.
[01:35:15] So it's not good.
[01:35:17] So it's good.
[01:35:18] Pedigreeves are rich losers.
[01:35:19] Yeah, except Nicki Minaj is a black woman who may or may not, I don't even know if
[01:35:27] she still has a citizenship, but like on a live stream, she revealed that she doesn't
[01:35:31] have after 36 years and millions and millions of dollars of paying taxes to the United States.
[01:35:38] She still does not have a fucking American citizenship and her entire fandom across the
[01:35:44] globe, you know, is comprised of a very diverse background.
[01:35:51] There's a lot of LGBT people in her, in her fandom in America.
[01:35:54] a lot of black and brown people in her fandom in America. So her just like directly leaning
[01:35:59] into an administration and a movement that is saying every single Nicki Minaj fan needs
[01:36:04] to be fucking deported or imprisoned is psychotic. Okay.
[01:36:18] This is the type of shit that really pisses me off in general when people are just
[01:36:21] like, oh, I got bullied into being right wing. Like, do you have no fucking worldview at all?
[01:36:28] Do you not give a shit about anything? Why would you openly admit that you are spineless?
[01:36:33] This is the thing that I do not understand. Not only did those black and brown fans, her
[01:36:39] female fans, and her LGBTQ fans may make her an incredibly rich and incredibly famous
[01:36:46] person and now she's like writing them off but also she's doing it in the in the
[01:36:51] weakest way possible I hate that shit I hate this is my least favorite thing
[01:36:55] that people say whenever they're like well people yelled at me too much so I
[01:37:00] dropped all of my previous convictions all you're saying is that you're a
[01:37:04] grifter you're an amoral grifter who will who will you know move in whichever
[01:37:10] direction that that suits you personally. People have yelled at me every single day for the past
[01:37:17] fucking 12 years, okay? Nicki Minaj's sayings, Barb's have yelled at me, called me a white supremacist
[01:37:25] as a matter of fact, which I'm going to show you in a little bit. Did that cause me to switch
[01:37:29] teams? Did I go, ah, you know what? I am one now. I'm a white supremacist now. I'm actually
[01:37:33] right wing. No, of course not. You have to have some fucking convictions, man. What the
[01:37:42] hell is this? When you've had enough, you realize, wait a minute, why do I even care
[01:37:47] about these people and what they think? Who are they? They don't even know who they are.
[01:37:51] So I'm not going to, I'm not going to back down anymore. I'm not going to back down
[01:37:54] ever again.
[01:37:56] Can the students in the room raise your hand?
[01:38:03] Wow.
[01:38:05] This question is for you guys.
[01:38:08] So you guys are very courageous and bold on your campus.
[01:38:12] Nikki, I know our students feel this way,
[01:38:14] but why do you think speaking your mind has become so controversial?
[01:38:18] Because people no longer are using their minds, their brains.
[01:38:24] So, right now, just imagine, we're not allowed to have a different opinion anymore.
[01:38:32] We're not allowed to think out loud anymore.
[01:38:35] We're not like, it just, this is not what the world used to feel like.
[01:38:41] And especially for the young people, I don't want them going up in a world where they
[01:38:44] feel like that.
[01:38:45] I mean, they deserve for their voices to be heard.
[01:38:47] They have valid feelings and they're thinking about things and it deserves attention.
[01:38:52] You know, we should listen to what they're saying, and if you're growing up in a world that tells you it's taboo to say something that the masses don't agree with, that's not okay, and we're not going to have it, and I love this, you know, it's given the younger people confidence that they will need later on in life.
[01:39:11] You guys will need it, and you will have it, so I'm rooting for you.
[01:39:15] I mean, this is for absolutely nobody other than Nicki Minaj.
[01:39:27] I need you to understand, this is such a transparent attempt of leading into a right wing movement
[01:39:35] because you think that's where the entirety of society is shifting, even though you're
[01:39:41] basically too slow to pull the trigger because she's doing this she's doing this just for
[01:39:48] herself and nobody else right she's basically writing off her entire fandom writing off her
[01:39:54] entire fandom um it's unimaginably selfish unimaginably narcissistic all people yelled
[01:40:01] at me too much because of the fucking weird decisions that I made uh over and over again
[01:40:07] you know protecting people who have who have engaged in predatory sexual assault and child
[01:40:14] endangerment whether it be my brother or my husband right and I have protected them and
[01:40:19] people have thought that that's kind of strange and they yelled about it too much and I also
[01:40:24] lost the the the momentum that I once had and and so now I'm just like very openly moving
[01:40:33] in this direction in the grift, right? I'm, you know, leaning into this, this way because
[01:40:41] I think that this is the next meta. Okay. It's very narcissistic. It's, it's very obvious.
[01:40:52] And it's, I think so obvious that you will see more and more fans just go, no, I don't
[01:41:01] want to be a part of this anymore, I can't be a part of this anymore.
[01:41:05] The ones that remain, the ones that remain will get increasingly more isolated and increasingly
[01:41:19] more insane.
[01:41:21] Again, Charlie would always say it really does not take skill to be courageous.
[01:41:29] It takes a choice, it takes a decision.
[01:41:31] And I just, I want to say again, thank you for coming
[01:41:33] and being courageous and being able to share
[01:41:36] your heart with us.
[01:41:37] And the reason why that also holds true sentiment-wise
[01:41:39] is because I know that-
[01:41:40] Dude, also the permanent victim status of right wingers
[01:41:43] is so funny.
[01:41:44] It's like, well, thank you for being so courageous
[01:41:48] to go to a, you know, multimillion dollar conference
[01:41:51] that the president's entire family speaks at
[01:41:54] where you defend the fucking president
[01:41:56] of the United States of America
[01:41:58] Then what? His brave battle against like random fucking brown and black people living on US
[01:42:05] soil that aren't doing any fucking crimes? Wow, thank you. How brave, how brave of you
[01:42:12] to defend the president of the United States of America? Like I need you to understand
[01:42:16] dude, who is the strongest, most powerful entity in American society? Of course the
[01:42:23] random Guatemalan immigrant. That's who the most powerful force is in the U.S. society,
[01:42:28] and the least powerful, most maligned force, most unjustly maligned force in American society
[01:42:34] is, of course, the fucking president. What are we doing? What are we fucking doing?
[01:42:47] These guys just, they never give up on the notion that they're constantly being attacked.
[01:42:54] They're constantly being attacked.
[01:42:56] It's just like, oh, you're so brave.
[01:42:58] You're so brave for defending the president against what?
[01:43:07] Trans teenagers, really?
[01:43:09] That's bravery.
[01:43:11] The strongest, most powerful entity in America's society is what, trans teenagers, undocumented
[01:43:19] immigrants, and the most attacked, most unjustly maligned force in America's society is the
[01:43:29] president, who's deploying the fucking military into black neighborhoods with regular frequency.
[01:43:36] But you are getting a lot of backlash from your own industry.
[01:43:41] What is your reaction to that?
[01:43:42] I didn't notice.
[01:43:44] Amen.
[01:43:45] I feel the same way.
[01:43:46] When people are like, what do you think about them?
[01:43:50] I'm like, I don't think about them.
[01:43:51] Bingo.
[01:43:52] We don't even think about them.
[01:43:53] We don't have time to.
[01:43:54] We're too busy building, right?
[01:43:55] Yeah.
[01:43:56] We're the cool kids.
[01:43:57] Okay.
[01:43:58] The other people, they're the ones who are still just disgruntled, but really,
[01:44:02] they're just disgruntled with themselves.
[01:44:04] They are angry with themselves, you guys.
[01:44:06] So you can't wake up and think about somebody who is determined to just stay mad.
[01:44:12] I literally tell them, stay mad, stay mad, because we're going to stay joyful and peaceful
[01:44:17] and iconic and smart, and we're going to stay thinkers in a world that doesn't want
[01:44:22] us to think.
[01:44:23] We will think.
[01:44:24] high ourselves or not own. We will continue to think.
[01:44:42] This is something I know that's really important to you, Ben, on your heart.
[01:44:45] And I just, I personally want to know what inspired you to speak out for the Christians that are being slaughtered in Nigeria.
[01:44:52] Well, yeah, she thought that was a good entry point into the
[01:44:56] Maggagift. That's it. Like propositioning a, a, a, if she came
[01:45:03] out and was like, yeah, I want the president to pardon my
[01:45:06] brother, uh, who has a 25 year sentence for, for sexually
[01:45:12] assaulting a minor, that would probably not be received
[01:45:16] well. Okay. So she had to find a way to like broach the
[01:45:22] subject matter in a way that is like more defensible and that's it that's the
[01:45:32] reason why she hit this you are the most vindicated man in history against the
[01:45:35] barbs we've all known all along she was a Republican voting for me Ronnie
[01:45:41] brings me back to our great president and this administration and our brother
[01:45:47] and her husband both have pedophilia cases pedophilia charges that we take for granted
[01:45:53] that they're right now in this world are people who cannot worship God as they please where
[01:45:58] they please we take it for granted because we have it we can't even imagine not having
[01:46:02] that right but every time we pray and fellowship we have to remember the people that are
[01:46:08] right now in this world hiding by who is this for hat what is this Christian pivot
[01:46:16] Christianity in the United States of America, the purest expression of Christianity in modern American culture is literally shitting on Nicki Minaj, okay?
[01:46:25] And everything that these evangelical Christians claim Nicki Minaj stands for.
[01:46:32] Strong black woman being pro LGBTQ.
[01:46:37] Like what the fuck, what are you talking about?
[01:46:41] Well, simultaneously, complaining about how you're under fire all the time, for your opinions
[01:46:46] and for being godly, okay?
[01:46:50] Doing it right now is also incredibly funny, because this is like the last, the last dance,
[01:46:58] okay?
[01:46:59] This is the, the, like, MAGA is dying.
[01:47:04] Anti-woke is dying.
[01:47:08] It's fucking insane that like you pivot while it's at its weakest point
[01:47:21] To pray and follow shit and we have to pray for them and first of all Nigeria is a place
[01:47:26] I've always loved someone very dear to me. My pastor is Nigerian. I have lots of Nigerian Barb's and so
[01:47:35] hearing that
[01:47:36] People are being kidnapped and while they're in church people are being kidnapped people are being killed brutalized
[01:47:43] This is really about less about panning the Christians and more about cultivating capitalizing and hating Muslims
[01:47:47] No, it's not even that fucking complicated. It's just trying to find a way where she can actually
[01:47:55] Trying to find a way where she can actually
[01:47:59] Enter the the maga grift
[01:48:02] Firmly, okay a
[01:48:04] My safe space or fans are assholes and Nikki doesn't even like gay people when she was asked about the tweet about the pulse nightclub
[01:48:11] Masked her this was her response
[01:48:12] I believe what the Bible says and I want to change my views I do and say what I want what I
[01:48:17] Don't I mean, I don't know if this is like a I don't I don't know that deep lore
[01:48:27] Like telling an audience
[01:48:29] at the turning point USA conference about the plight of Nigerians is just so like it's
[01:48:39] so transparently a grift okay what the fuck are you talking about like if if you even
[01:48:54] sincerely cared and you were like oh
[01:48:56] i mean it's it's uh... it's uh... it's over emphasize the isis-backed
[01:49:00] uh... uh... fundamentalist groups that are
[01:49:02] uh... constantly waging war but it's not like uh...
[01:49:05] it's not like a government-backed thing at all in the way that like maga
[01:49:09] represents it in nigeria i'm not going to get fully into the
[01:49:12] to the lore here
[01:49:13] obviously isaac style
[01:49:15] uh... isaac style uh... terrorist organizations have been running a
[01:49:19] muck all over africa which
[01:49:21] for the record
[01:49:22] uh... is is
[01:49:27] has has been a uh... an area of interest for america as well an area where uh...
[01:49:31] you know
[01:49:32] china has made a significant gains there's a
[01:49:35] there's a uh... uh... the much larger geopolitical game at play here and of
[01:49:40] course as always the victims are
[01:49:42] uh... the regular people that live in these countries
[01:49:46] having said that
[01:49:48] having said that
[01:49:49] The notion that this is like a major gripe and that you actually do care about the Nigerian Christians first and foremost. Okay.
[01:49:57] Let's bring him into the United States of America then. Let's see how well that goes with this fucking crowd. I don't have an issue with that. I think it's great. Okay. But go ahead.
[01:50:09] Let's save Nigerian Christians.
[01:50:12] Let's allow Nigerian Christian refugees to come to the United States of America.
[01:50:17] Go ahead, present that as an argument.
[01:50:19] Let's see if they do care about the safety and security of Nigerians, Christian or non-Christian
[01:50:26] alike.
[01:50:34] you know? All because of their religion. And that should spark outrage in the great America.
[01:50:45] And that's what it did. And again, we're not backing down anymore. We are not going to be
[01:50:51] silenced by the bully. What is this? That was Megan Cardi B crime. Be so for real wrong
[01:50:55] black woman chatter. What is happening? Did they did they link something wrong?
[01:50:59] I don't understand like did they link something different?
[01:51:04] I'm confused.
[01:51:08] The barbs are here.
[01:51:09] I mean, it's fine.
[01:51:10] I hope this is a fucking important lesson.
[01:51:25] Oh, they said Nikki wrote WAP.
[01:51:29] Yeah, anyway, they made a joke about Wob and thought it was by Nikki. Oh, yeah, okay
[01:51:37] In any case in any case in any case, this is not even a real tweet by the way, but it's pretty funny
[01:51:43] Bob base
[01:51:44] Nikki, but I reveal she's working on a song with Erica Kirk to honor Charlie Kirk's legacy for a new album
[01:51:48] I don't know if you can see this at home, but she is getting a ton of standing ovations.
[01:52:17] Yeah, the real bullies are the people who won't be quietly prosecuted, prosecuted, destroyed,
[01:52:29] have their lives ruined by this administration.
[01:52:32] Okay?
[01:52:33] That's who the real bullies are, everybody.
[01:52:37] The real bullies are the people who don't just stand down when their neighbors or their
[01:52:44] family members are being fucking deported.
[01:52:46] Those are the real bullies.
[01:52:47] the people doing that. Okay, not the most powerful entity on the planet, the United States of
[01:52:52] American government. It's actually the victims of the United States and its imperial endeavors.
[01:52:59] Those are the real fucking bullies. What are we doing? Jesus Christ.
[01:53:04] I love you guys so much. Thank you guys.
[01:53:06] Yeah, she cares so much about Christians. At least she could have done the Tucker Carlson
[01:53:09] thing and talked about Christians in Gaza, for example. You know, I wonder how
[01:53:13] that would go in this crowd? Well, I guess maybe a lot of people are pro-Palestine now.
[01:53:20] So going along that thread, can you tell us about your relationship with God? Because I think a lot
[01:53:25] of us want to hear. Sure. Well, my relationship with God started, well, when I was a toddler
[01:53:32] in Trinidad, my grandmother, if things got spicy in the house, like if people, if the kids and
[01:53:38] grandkids were arguing or fighting, she would make all the little kids go in her room and
[01:53:42] and make us say our, like, and save a prayer.
[01:53:45] So later on in my life, well, not much later,
[01:53:49] when I was like 10, 11, 12, I started going to church
[01:53:53] in New York and it changed everything.
[01:53:56] It changed my life for the better
[01:53:58] because I was going every week.
[01:54:00] I was hearing the word of God be preached
[01:54:04] and then I was going home
[01:54:05] and I was applying it to my life,
[01:54:06] even as a little girl.
[01:54:09] I learned how to pray very early.
[01:54:10] But I always had this faith that made people think, you know, the kind of faith that you
[01:54:16] think the person is crazy, like, oh please, like, you know, but I...
[01:54:19] Oh, this is sped up Chad.
[01:54:21] That's why she sounds so fast.
[01:54:23] I started out...
[01:54:24] I had faith instinctively.
[01:54:28] Once I started hearing about God and, you know, just getting more into the Bible,
[01:54:34] I got baptized when I was about...
[01:54:36] Yep.
[01:54:37] Amen.
[01:54:38] I got baptized when I was about 13.
[01:54:40] I got baptized, and I have just always applied those teachings to my life.
[01:54:47] I try to, and that's the thing, we're not perfect, we try.
[01:54:53] Sometimes, I would wake up and feel so far removed from not God, but from fellowship.
[01:55:00] You know, I was like, oh my God, I used to go to church on Wednesday, Friday, and
[01:55:03] Sunday every week, like literally three days out of the week.
[01:55:07] And then later on in your life, you become busy, and you start thinking, oh well,
[01:55:10] you know, God is in my heart and you know, but then sometimes you can get an industry
[01:55:14] as well that pulls you away even more. So lately I've been feeling like, you know, like if
[01:55:23] you haven't seen a long lost best friend for a long time and then you come into them
[01:55:27] again.
[01:55:28] This is the other side of this like conversation that I also despise when people are like,
[01:55:32] I'm so godly, I'm so Christian like I love Jesus Christ and his teachings. And
[01:55:37] That's why I'm a right-wing Republican in 2025.
[01:55:41] What part of what Jesus Christ did
[01:55:44] in any of the fucking books
[01:55:46] resembles the current MAGA movement, okay?
[01:55:50] Who could forget how Jesus would refuse
[01:55:53] to cure the lepers, okay?
[01:55:56] And said, hey, gotta pick yourself up
[01:55:58] by your bootstraps lepers.
[01:55:59] You want this fucking healthcare?
[01:56:01] You gotta pay for it, bitch.
[01:56:04] You know, who could forget
[01:56:06] When Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior was running around being like,
[01:56:11] Hey, we got to get these browns out of here.
[01:56:13] I mean, he was brown himself, but obviously in this fantasy is, uh,
[01:56:17] you know, white with blue eyes and blonde hair.
[01:56:20] Okay.
[01:56:23] Yeah.
[01:56:23] That's what he primarily invested himself in consistently talking about the
[01:56:28] downtrodden and talking about how they deserve their position in
[01:56:33] society, because they probably were morally impure. Who could forget, you know, the teaching
[01:56:40] foundational tenets of Jesus Christ, fuck the poor, he said.
[01:56:50] Like I just, I despise this shit. I'm not a religious person at all. But it's always
[01:56:55] so funny when Christians who are conservative, who are right wing will come out and be like,
[01:57:01] I love, I love Christianity.
[01:57:04] I love Christianity so much.
[01:57:07] It's my favorite thing.
[01:57:08] And that's why I love Donald Trump,
[01:57:11] the most Christian guy out there, you know?
[01:57:16] If there's a guy I can think of that's a, you know,
[01:57:18] following the gospel, it's Donald Trump.
[01:57:27] Yeah.
[01:57:29] Yeah, Jesus Christ walked on water
[01:57:31] So we could make all of the lepers also walk on water with him away from wherever.
[01:57:38] I mean, away from Nazareth, Jerusalem.
[01:57:40] I don't know where the fuck he was, away from the region, somewhere else.
[01:57:44] You know, he just, he just did a long march, a death march for the, for the
[01:57:48] poor's.
[01:57:52] That's how he's been feeling for me.
[01:57:53] Like just going back to God and praying and talking to him.
[01:57:56] And, you know, and he said to me, where were you?
[01:57:58] Where have you been?
[01:57:59] I've been waiting on you.
[01:58:01] And since that moment that God had that conversation with me,
[01:58:04] I've been in such a better space because now it's just,
[01:58:08] I'm thinking about is God pleased with this?
[01:58:11] Not if the bullies and uglies are pleased, but,
[01:58:15] but if God is pleased and when you have that personal relationship with God,
[01:58:18] guess what? Even in school, he's there wherever you are.
[01:58:22] And whenever you need it,
[01:58:23] you have something that you can tap into immediately. It's immediate.
[01:58:26] You don't have to leave a message. He's not going to pull you back.
[01:58:28] He's there immediately. As soon as you call on him,
[01:58:31] On the first ring, he's going to answer.
[01:58:33] And I want you guys to remember that.
[01:58:34] You're young, and first of all, first of all,
[01:58:37] I want to say, I'm proud of you guys.
[01:58:39] This is a major, to be so young for you guys that are in college,
[01:58:43] to be so young and to cheer this much, this early in your life,
[01:58:46] it tells us how smart you are.
[01:58:48] And it tells us that there's hope for our...
[01:58:50] Yeah, they care, yeah.
[01:58:52] Speaking in front of the Hitler youth,
[01:58:56] it's so cool that you guys are politically active.
[01:59:01] It's cool. Don't worry about what your politics are. Let's not even examine what is a major
[01:59:09] guiding principle in your organizing. Like what is the galvanizing factor here? What makes you
[01:59:15] really tick? It's just cool. It's just cool that you guys are involved in politics at an early age.
[01:59:23] God damn.
[01:59:29] Future.
[01:59:30] So God bless you.
[01:59:31] Congratulations you guys.
[01:59:32] You're amazing.
[01:59:33] Congratulations.
[01:59:34] You guys are amazing.
[01:59:35] Okay.
[01:59:36] Know it.
[01:59:37] Feel it.
[01:59:38] Yes.
[01:59:39] Yes.
[01:59:40] Proudly.
[01:59:41] Be it proudly.
[01:59:42] Be who you are proudly.
[01:59:45] Amen.
[01:59:47] So what have you, I mean you're an amazing mother.
[01:59:51] What have you seen that has been a struggle for young women today?
[01:59:55] And then also, since both of us have little boys, I would love for you to also talk about
[01:59:59] the male side of that question as well.
[02:00:01] Okay.
[02:00:02] Well, something that I've noticed recently is that for little girls, I think that no
[02:00:07] matter how you look, we should be trying to instill into them to be proud of how
[02:00:12] they look.
[02:00:13] Recently in the media, it's almost been like a push to...
[02:00:18] It's not just making young black children feel proud of themselves, but it's almost like
[02:00:23] doing that and at the same time telling other children not to be proud of themselves.
[02:00:28] And I don't want any child feeling that.
[02:00:31] Oh, this is so funny.
[02:00:32] Look, look, my expertise is in right wing talking points, right?
[02:00:40] So when I see someone trying to do, trying to, to like present right wing talking points
[02:00:48] but doing it so shittily, it just, I'm sorry,
[02:00:52] it triggers a part of my brain.
[02:00:55] What she's trying to do here,
[02:00:57] what she's trying to do here is basically,
[02:01:00] claim the CRT narrative, right?
[02:01:02] Like the all lives matter.
[02:01:05] You know, if you actually talk about
[02:01:08] the history of chattel slavery with an accurate framing
[02:01:13] that identifies black people,
[02:01:16] not just as like a faceless, voiceless group of commodities to be traded, but instead human
[02:01:25] beings that were enslaved, then you're going to make white people feel bad.
[02:01:32] Like, that's what she's trying to do here.
[02:01:34] She's trying to do the CRT narrative, like, oh, woke is making white people feel uncomfortable
[02:01:39] and bad and insecure about their history, you know, and it's really fucked up.
[02:01:45] is saying, don't be ashamed to be white.
[02:01:48] Way.
[02:01:49] If we, if, if as black women we felt that we were not being represented and not being admired
[02:02:01] for our beauty, if we felt like that as black women, why would we want to do that to other
[02:02:05] women?
[02:02:06] Why would we now need to make other people downplay their beauty so that we can feel,
[02:02:11] no that's not how it works.
[02:02:12] I don't need someone with blonde hair and blue eyes to downplay their beauty because I know my beauty.
[02:02:17] Do you understand? It doesn't bother me that a woman-
[02:02:20] Bro, it's so funny. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.
[02:02:24] Who is doing this? Who is doing this?
[02:02:30] Who is running around saying white is ugly?
[02:02:34] Like what? She tried to- she tried to find this like narrow focus?
[02:02:41] Who who is like where is the where is the momentum behind like you know white women or fucking the ugly movement?
[02:02:52] Where is that happening?
[02:02:55] Oh my god
[02:03:02] JD sure clocked what you did yeah, Nick him and I said something in emphasis that was really profound
[02:03:06] I'm paraphrasing but she said just because I want little black girls to think they're beautiful
[02:03:09] doesn't mean I need to put down little girls with blonde hair and blue eyes.
[02:03:12] We all got wrapped up over the last few years in zero-sum thinking.
[02:03:15] This was because of the people who think they ruled the world pit us against one another.
[02:03:19] Nicki Minaj rejects that.
[02:03:21] We all should.
[02:03:30] This is not a real thing.
[02:03:36] And it's, it's so not a real thing that I don't even think this has like a lot of motion,
[02:03:42] like the perceived victimhood narratives, right?
[02:03:47] The white people are under attack narratives.
[02:03:49] They do work on a lot of insecure people.
[02:03:53] They do work on a lot of insecure people, right?
[02:03:55] Their insecurity obviously stems from their, their horrible material conditions, lack of
[02:04:00] job prospects and things of that nature.
[02:04:04] But I don't even think this angle works because who the fuck has encountered a real moment of
[02:04:15] crisis where they send their blonde and blue-haired daughter to school and then the kindergarten
[02:04:20] teacher is like, everybody knows blonde and blue-haired, blonde and blue eyes are terrible.
[02:04:30] They're ugly.
[02:04:31] It's a marker of ugliness.
[02:04:33] What the fuck?
[02:04:36] There has never been a moment in American history where that's been the case.
[02:04:40] If anything, there's only been the reversal of that and it still has its remnants in modern
[02:04:45] culture even where black students get penalized for having natural hair and things of that
[02:04:54] nature.
[02:04:55] That still very much exists, maybe not to the same degree as it once did, but that's
[02:05:00] still there. Whereas the reversal of that has never existed in American history and never will
[02:05:06] exist in American history. So like you're just completely biting black people shit once again.
[02:05:14] You know what I mean? Now it's ironic that Nicki Minaj is doing this because she's black
[02:05:20] and was profoundly important at some point for the culture in general, right? But it's crazy.
[02:05:27] There has literally never been a moment where someone has been punished or penalized in American
[02:05:36] culture and American history.
[02:05:38] There's no systematic racism against white children.
[02:05:42] Like that's insane.
[02:05:43] That's an insane thing.
[02:05:52] Jewish supremacists spent the last two years talking about how they were under attack
[02:05:55] while they were doing genocide.
[02:05:56] was just copying the strategy. Brother, if you think that it's new to just Jewish supremacists
[02:06:01] or Zionists, you are delusional. That is the hallmark of fascist commentary. White people
[02:06:07] have been doing this. White supremacists have been doing this for basically as long as
[02:06:11] white supremacy has existed as a concept. What do you mean? That's the whole point
[02:06:17] of being a right-winger, creating manufactured hysteria
[02:06:22] around perceived victimhood.
[02:06:26] That's literally the oldest playbook.
[02:06:28] It's the oldest playbook in the game.
[02:06:35] You know, white genocide, white genocide,
[02:06:37] white genocide, white genocide is happening.
[02:06:39] It's happening, it's happening.
[02:06:47] The only difference between Zionists utilizing this narrative versus white people utilizing
[02:06:53] this narrative is that more people are obviously aware that, you know, America is a white first
[02:06:59] society, right? It was designed around the preservation of chattel slavery and a lot of
[02:07:07] remnants of that social dynamic, a lot of remnants of that racial dynamic still very much exist
[02:07:12] as opposed to Jews have been historically marginalized and obviously while it's not the case in contemporary American existence and in American society
[02:07:21] there are points of not only marginalization but genocide that they can point to to at least like, at least create a more reasonable narrative around their point of marginalization
[02:07:33] which makes this conversation a little bit more complex when you're having it in America, okay?
[02:07:39] Okay?
[02:07:40] Whereas white people can't really do that.
[02:07:43] They can't really point to any historic marginalization.
[02:07:47] And that's precisely the reason why, yeah,
[02:07:49] you can point to Catholics, for example,
[02:07:51] in America being marginalized,
[02:07:53] but you can't do that for white people
[02:07:55] because whiteness as a socio-political construct
[02:07:58] is designed around domination.
[02:08:03] Do you understand?
[02:08:09] Didn't you watch a bunch of views ripping on blue-eyed people like this week? It's minor, but it does happen. Brother, that...
[02:08:16] Oh, God. We just got to go back to the drawing board and I have to explain something to you, okay?
[02:08:25] A lot of people misunderstand the N-word. Okay, a lot of white people. They think it's just a mean word, right?
[02:08:33] It's a mean word that offends the sensibilities of black people. That's not the reason why it's a no-no word
[02:08:40] Okay, I need you to understand this
[02:08:44] It's the historic
[02:08:47] Oppression and the continued versions of said oppression
[02:08:50] Systematic oppression against black people that it's a that that makes this word a reminder of the racial hierarchy
[02:08:59] Okay, the automatic dehumanization
[02:09:03] That, that right there is the reason for why there is a different
[02:09:13] significance for this word as opposed to the word cracker, okay?
[02:09:22] And the same principle goes for someone clowning on white people with blue eyes
[02:09:28] versus someone clowning on white people with blue eyes,
[02:09:33] myself included, because I was engaging in that
[02:09:35] because I was taking, I was, you know,
[02:09:37] taking the piss out of the whole Erica Kirk situation,
[02:09:39] saying like there's something about her
[02:09:41] that like rubs me the wrong way or whatever.
[02:09:43] There is no historical association with like
[02:09:46] being dominated for, for having blue eyes as a white person.
[02:09:51] Like if there is no,
[02:09:53] there is no ongoing or previous historic point
[02:09:57] marginalization that you can point to. You contribute nothing positive to this
[02:10:01] world and are an active nuisance in the political landscape. You and whatever fake
[02:10:04] ideology you represent are toxic and only thought-provoking to the biggest
[02:10:07] idiots. Blow yourself up in a video game. You communist terrorist sympathizer.
[02:10:11] I'll take my ban now. No, we will not be banning you. Chatter. Thank you for
[02:10:15] your wonderful contribution.
[02:10:18] But that's so funny that you think this is like you're
[02:10:26] You strapped on an ideological
[02:10:30] Suicide-vest onto yourself and you're bravely putting yourself in the line of fire. You're like, oh, yeah. Oh
[02:10:37] Yeah, you contribute nothing bad me bitch
[02:10:41] Yeah, you really thought you were cougar with that one, right?
[02:10:43] come on I'll take my band I'll take my band now like you did at the ice protest
[02:10:49] law we what like I did at the ice protest I strap myself with the suicide
[02:10:57] vest on the ice pro protest is that that that doesn't even make any sense did you
[02:11:04] get too excited that you got noticed but you didn't get the band so you're
[02:11:08] just trying to like immediately pivot to another thing but it doesn't
[02:11:12] actually make sense at all. It's not a good analogy.
[02:11:25] They gave up, checked their logs. Okay. Yeah, it's like the dynamic is different. A lot of people try to neutralize
[02:11:32] and do this like color blind approach when they talk about different versions of persecution,
[02:11:44] like, oh, you're just being racist. Racism is color blind, all this shit. Like, no, it's not the same,
[02:11:48] right? And I think you understand that as well as exactly like making a watermelon capes
[02:11:52] and joke when talking about Black person versus a baguette joke when talking about French people,
[02:11:56] people, right? Like the stereotyping and the dehumanization actually has, not only is it
[02:12:03] a reminder of the dehumanization that has existed, but also is consistent still in modern society
[02:12:13] as opposed to just like making a fucking joke that is not disparaging French people
[02:12:17] at all, right?
[02:12:26] Anyway, Casey did not come from Africa, Baguette come from France, wrong analogy, what?
[02:12:46] No, that's not a wrong analogy at all.
[02:12:50] One is a contemporary example of, you know, automatically claiming that all black people
[02:12:57] are, you know, barbaric savages.
[02:12:59] The other one is just like making a joke about, or, you know, bringing up something that
[02:13:06] is like, you know, identified and associated with like French culture.
[02:13:16] Anyway, a historically dehumanized group of people having stereotypes that aim to
[02:13:23] otherize them when the wounds of the past have yet to be recognized unanimously let alone
[02:13:27] healed. Exactly. Exactly.
[02:13:36] In any case, we're going to continue. Where did the guy go? Where did my goat go when
[02:13:42] was talking about how I'm a communist sympathizing terrorist or something.
[02:13:52] I'm new to Hasan P. What I have to say is that although the guy is a bit woke and radical,
[02:13:56] he's still part of the system. The way you can test this by asking is,
[02:14:00] he would be down with dismantling white supremacy and capitalism. That will tell you all you
[02:14:04] you need to know. I understand what you're saying, but why would white, so to speak, play
[02:14:14] by these rules in which everyone can dunk on them, and they should just shut up? I mean,
[02:14:18] even if it's morally right, why would they engage in something that is against their
[02:14:20] interests? First of all, wait, no, this is a new person. This is a new question. This
[02:14:28] is not, this is a different person. He's brain shorted and now he's doing shock
[02:14:32] Kaia jokes. Oh, on loop.
[02:14:42] Jesus Christ, there's no
[02:14:45] NPC with limited dialogue.
[02:14:47] Dude, he just bugged.
[02:14:48] He bugged. He's like, you do electrocute Kaia.
[02:14:51] You're just a Kaia.
[02:14:53] No, this is a different person.
[02:14:55] Okay.
[02:14:57] I will say it like this.
[02:14:59] I'm white.
[02:15:00] Okay.
[02:15:02] It's about not being a pussy, okay? That's it.
[02:15:09] It's about not being a fucking pussy and not being a little baby. It's about expanding your consciousness, understanding the plight of other people, understanding the historical significance of certain forms of oppression, okay?
[02:15:26] Because that argument that you're entertaining literally just justifies white supremacy.
[02:15:32] Why would I take down slavery as a system when I'm white?
[02:15:39] Why would I care about the plight of other people?
[02:15:41] Why would I care about the humanity of other people when the unjust and inhumane constructs
[02:15:46] that exist and have been normalized and calcified in society actually benefit me or don't
[02:15:53] harm me at all?
[02:15:55] You're just finding a way to say you're kind of a fucking asshole and that's fine, right?
[02:16:01] There are a lot of assholes, okay?
[02:16:03] There are a lot of assholes, there are a lot of selfish assholes out there, but my whole
[02:16:09] job at least is to try to get people to not be fucking assholes and be mindful and
[02:16:14] be considerate of other people and the plight that they go through, okay?
[02:16:23] That's how reactionary politics turn into vice signaling.
[02:16:28] The starting point is me, me, me, me, me, my own personal interests and trying to establish
[02:16:33] tribal lines off of being white, for example, and white identity, a completely made up construct.
[02:16:52] use, I guess outdated modes here because you know, sorry, I'm a toxic, but like, that's
[02:17:03] not what real men do, right?
[02:17:05] When people talk about like being a man, be a man, be a real man is like, at what point
[02:17:11] in your life where you educated that being a real man is not about defending those
[02:17:18] who have less than you but instead striking down at those who are vulnerable. Never, right?
[02:17:26] So how did this happen where in your adolescence or your adult life you just decided I'm gonna
[02:17:32] be a fucking selfish, I am going to be a selfish asshole. I'm never gonna be on board with
[02:17:39] anything that does not immediately benefit me or even beyond that I'm never going
[02:17:45] to dive deeper and maybe figure out how this could be beneficial for me in the long run.
[02:17:55] As I like to do from time to time, there is a selfish self-interested argument for socialism,
[02:18:00] regardless of your class position, even if you're super fucking wealthy, okay? If you
[02:18:06] recognize that the profit incentives are actually destroying the planet that you currently
[02:18:13] live on that your next of kin is going to live on, then you should probably choose to
[02:18:19] work against that to make sure that we preserve this planet, to save this planet that we live
[02:18:24] on.
[02:18:25] There's no other options.
[02:18:27] Or if you were to think that like, you know, oh, I don't like how much crime there is
[02:18:32] in major cities in urban areas, let's say, right?
[02:18:36] Like the racialized attitude that many people have.
[02:18:40] You can identify where that crime is coming from.
[02:18:43] And the copium for a lot of privileged people, a lot of people that lean into more white
[02:18:50] supremacists undertones is, oh, it's their culture.
[02:18:54] Oh, it's their race, right?
[02:18:57] Oh, black and brown people are inferior.
[02:19:00] That's the reason they're more barbaric.
[02:19:01] They're more violent.
[02:19:02] They're more angry.
[02:19:03] That's the reason why they actually engage in crime.
[02:19:05] They've hired tendency to engage in crime.
[02:19:07] While one, that's objectively untrue, and two, it doesn't actually provide a solution
[02:19:14] to the problem.
[02:19:16] Nobody likes crime.
[02:19:18] Nobody wants to live in an environment where there is a lot of crime happening.
[02:19:23] So the real solution to that is systematic.
[02:19:27] The real solution stems from or starts from identifying how this happened to begin
[02:19:33] with, how black and brown communities were systematically written off, displaced, underfunded,
[02:19:42] how black people and brown people were undermined, and how poverty manifested in these communities.
[02:19:53] And then the solutions come after that recognition. Restitution, reparations, economic justice
[02:20:02] trying to eradicate poverty in these communities
[02:20:07] so that it's less likely
[02:20:10] that uh... crime will take place in these communities in general
[02:20:15] because at the end of the day like i said no one wants crime
[02:20:19] nobody wants fucking crime nobody's doing it because they're like i love
[02:20:22] doing crime
[02:20:23] no people do it because they have no other options
[02:20:26] and it's not always like a john vol john right it's not always like
[02:20:29] you're stealing a loaf of bread
[02:20:31] But people do it when they have no options and they have no hope, no dreams whatsoever,
[02:20:36] and the only social function is, is some kind of criminal element.
[02:20:47] You know?
[02:20:47] What? Oh my God, the DOJ uploaded a video of Jeffries and that's a fake video. A 12-minute
[02:21:04] video of what appears to be Jeffries I've seen. Wait, what?
[02:21:13] Is that real?
[02:21:14] They streamed the disturbing DOJ uploaded a 12 second video showing what appears to be
[02:21:17] Epstein attempting to kill himself.
[02:21:18] The camera's time stamp is the day his body was discovered.
[02:21:21] DOJ quietly released the footage but didn't link the video yet to their main Epstein
[02:21:25] files page.
[02:21:26] Wait, what?
[02:21:27] No.
[02:21:28] No shot.
[02:21:29] Wait, actually?
[02:21:31] Drop site reported on it?
[02:21:37] No.
[02:21:44] This is not real, this is a recreation chat.
[02:21:48] This is not real footage.
[02:21:52] No, what are you talking about?
[02:21:57] Does this look like real footage of Jeffrey Epstein to you?
[02:22:00] It doesn't even look like it's Unreal Engine 4, dude.
[02:22:03] What are you talking about?
[02:22:05] Yeah, it's clearly fucking CGI.
[02:22:08] Now, what's interesting about it is like,
[02:22:09] why do they make this CGI recreation?
[02:22:12] And we'll get into that in a second.
[02:22:13] All right, let me finish off with this Nicki Minaj shit
[02:22:15] and then we'll do it again.
[02:22:16] And we'll get into that.
[02:22:17] Feels and says that she's beautiful.
[02:22:18] Why shouldn't she feel that?
[02:22:19] Why have we gotten to a point where certain colors
[02:22:22] or certain kinds of people have to be afraid
[02:22:24] of loving themselves and loving the way they look?
[02:22:26] Like, isn't that wild?
[02:22:28] And so for little girls, I don't want what was done
[02:22:31] to little black girls, done to little white girls.
[02:22:33] I don't want it done to any girls.
[02:22:35] I want all the little girls in the world to know
[02:22:37] that you are unique, you are beautiful.
[02:22:40] You are you and you can compliment another girl.
[02:22:42] You can compliment another woman
[02:22:43] and still know that you are epic and amazing.
[02:22:45] So that's what I would say about for the girls.
[02:22:47] Um, and I know the older, I know my adults understand clearly
[02:22:51] where I'm, where I'm going with that, you know, um, I just,
[02:22:54] I don't like, I don't like that. I don't like people making.
[02:22:57] Sorry, Zombo, you're wrong.
[02:22:58] What are the crime that goes on in prisons?
[02:22:59] The guards beating inmates,
[02:23:00] they don't do that crime out of desperation.
[02:23:01] They do that because they're evil. Oh my God.
[02:23:04] Or listen, listen,
[02:23:07] obviously not every single fucking instance of crime comes from, uh,
[02:23:12] your proximity to wealth if you are in poverty, okay?
[02:23:17] Please stop.
[02:23:18] There's also socially maladaptive behavior.
[02:23:22] There's a crime born out of anti-social personality disorders.
[02:23:27] Like that's not, we're not factoring every single thing.
[02:23:30] I'm just painting this with a broad brush,
[02:23:32] as broad of a brush as possible.
[02:23:34] But the reality of the matter is,
[02:23:36] you can still say that material conditions
[02:23:38] play a formative role in why people develop
[02:23:41] the way that they do and then have a higher likelihood of being in a situation where they
[02:23:46] can exercise power over others and have complete control over others and decide to do evil shit.
[02:23:54] Okay. Other people feel badly about themselves in any way. We need to nurture young girls. Yes,
[02:24:03] whether they are black, white, Asian, Hispanic, they still need to be nurtured. They cannot
[02:24:07] continue to pay for other people's sins. They haven't done anything wrong.
[02:24:11] Amen.
[02:24:15] And what do you think about for young men? For young men?
[02:24:17] And for young men, don't be noose on them.
[02:24:21] Yes, see, dear young men, you have amazing role models
[02:24:27] like our handsome dashing president.
[02:24:33] And you have amazing role models like the assassin, J.D. Vance, our vice president.
[02:24:39] And when I say that, trust me, there's nothing new under the sun that I have not heard, so you're fine.
[02:24:51] Yes, we did. I love you.
[02:24:56] You have to laugh about it truly. I have been called every single thing, and you know what?
[02:24:59] God is so good. You let it roll right off your back. And this is what's so beautiful
[02:25:02] about this moment because if the internet wants to clip it, who cares? I love this woman. She's an
[02:25:07] amazing woman. She has a soul and a heart for the Lord and words are words, but I know her heart
[02:25:12] and it doesn't even matter. And you say what you want to say because I know your heart. But I do
[02:25:15] not judge that. Thank you. For love for boys, boys, be boys. Amen. Be boys. It's okay. Be boys.
[02:25:24] It's nothing wrong with being a boy. How about that? Amen. How powerful is that? How
[02:25:30] profound is that? Boys will be boys and there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah that's
[02:25:38] what I want to say. What's something the media in the world in general misunderstands
[02:25:42] about you? Oh, I think people think maybe that I'm mean or you know maybe I when
[02:25:53] And you have a strong presence as a woman.
[02:25:55] It's easy to.
[02:26:00] She said that JD Vance an assassin.
[02:26:03] I missed it.
[02:26:05] I love this woman.
[02:26:06] She's an amazing role about this.
[02:26:08] Been called every single thing.
[02:26:09] And you know what?
[02:26:10] God is so good.
[02:26:11] You let it roll right off your back.
[02:26:11] And this is what's so beautiful about this moment.
[02:26:13] Because if you-
[02:26:14] Further back, I was pissing chat.
[02:26:16] Oh, there it is.
[02:26:17] Hold on.
[02:26:17] You have amazing role models
[02:26:20] like our handsome dashing president oh so embarrassing so embarrassing so
[02:26:29] embarrassing how can you get yourself to say shit like that god damn you are a
[02:26:34] whole ass grown-ass woman bro that's crazy oh our president is so sexy oh my
[02:26:43] God. He is so sexy, dude. And you have amazing role models like the assassin, JD Vance, our
[02:26:54] vice president. And when I say that, the assassin JD Vance. Oh, oh, shit. What does she know?
[02:27:06] It is a testament to how far we have fallen where you can't even fucking say you can't
[02:27:16] even fucking say, uh, uh, you know, someone is an assassin without a fuck ton of conspiracy
[02:27:22] theories propping up specifically in this situation, obviously people are going to say,
[02:27:28] Oh, JD Vance assassinated Charlie Kirk so that, you know, he could marry Erica
[02:27:33] Kirk or something. There's like there are so many people, there are so many people out
[02:27:37] there who would just like tune into this moment and go, that's it, that's right, now I know.
[02:27:42] Trust me, there's nothing new under the sun that I have not heard so you're fine. Yes,
[02:27:52] we did. I love you. You have to laugh about it truly. I have been called every single
[02:27:59] thing and you know what, God is so good, you let it roll right off your back and
[02:28:02] This is what's so beautiful about this moment because if the internet wants to clip it who cares?
[02:28:06] I love this woman. She's an amazing woman. She has a soul and a heart for the Lord. Yeah, she noticed that oh shit
[02:28:13] She noticed that
[02:28:15] That was going to to be reflected on later
[02:28:20] Words are words, but I know her heart and it doesn't even matter and you say what you want to say because I know your heart
[02:28:25] I do not judge that. Thank you
[02:28:27] for a lot for boys boys
[02:28:29] Be boys, be boys, it's okay, be boys, it's nothing wrong with being a boy.
[02:28:36] How about that?
[02:28:37] How powerful is that?
[02:28:39] How profound is that?
[02:28:40] Boys will be boys, and there's nothing wrong with that.
[02:28:44] Yeah, that's what I want to say.
[02:28:48] What's something the media and the world in general misunderstands about you?
[02:28:52] Oh, I think people think maybe that I'm mean, but you know, maybe I, when you have a strong
[02:29:04] presence as a woman, it's easy to just box you into one box, one category of mean or,
[02:29:09] you know, other words.
[02:29:10] They want to like put you in a box to be able to label you what they want you to be, but
[02:29:13] you're so much more than that.
[02:29:15] Because you, because you intimidate them, you know, and they want to find something.
[02:29:19] And if they can't find something, they'll make something up.
[02:29:22] so they'll put a label on you.
[02:29:23] But you know, it doesn't,
[02:29:26] what people misunderstand about me now,
[02:29:29] I don't care about it, I really don't.
[02:29:31] In fact, I love that they misunderstand me now.
[02:29:34] I do too, because it shows that you're not a part
[02:29:37] of this world, someone once told me,
[02:29:38] do not be surprised when the world acts like the world.
[02:29:41] And I held on to that so much
[02:29:42] because even being in this role now,
[02:29:44] people don't, they're trying to figure me out.
[02:29:46] Okay, enjoy, I am who I am,
[02:29:49] there's nothing to hide.
[02:29:49] And I know you feel the same way
[02:29:50] when people misunderstand you.
[02:29:51] I'm like, okay, well, I have an audience of what,
[02:29:53] well, now I have an audience of two,
[02:29:54] but I have an audience of Unheaven,
[02:29:56] and I know the Lord knows me, Lord knows you,
[02:29:59] and he put everything in you to be able to make a difference
[02:30:02] in this world, likewise to all of you students
[02:30:03] and everyone else here.
[02:30:04] And to go into that further, I know that this,
[02:30:07] and I'll end on this, I know that a lot of you guys
[02:30:09] have been hearing about, you know,
[02:30:10] we are doing this for Charlie,
[02:30:11] and we're doing this for his legacy,
[02:30:13] but we're also doing it because each and every one
[02:30:14] of you guys have a legacy.
[02:30:16] And I want you guys, when you leave this conference,
[02:30:19] it takes something with you.
[02:30:21] And when it gets tough out there,
[02:30:22] I want you to hold with you a word.
[02:30:24] It could be anything.
[02:30:25] For me, it's Charlie.
[02:30:26] But for you guys, it could be, I don't know, refocus,
[02:30:28] family, children, future, something.
[02:30:30] Hold that word in your heart
[02:30:31] so that when you go back out into the world
[02:30:33] and you have someone screaming in your face,
[02:30:36] someone spitting in your face,
[02:30:37] someone flipping your table on campus,
[02:30:38] someone making fun of you because you're a conservative,
[02:30:40] someone making fun of you because you love the Lord,
[02:30:41] say that word to yourself out loud or internally
[02:30:44] to refocus your brain and your heart and your soul,
[02:30:46] to know that you're about something
[02:30:47] so much bigger and greater.
[02:30:48] The legacy with turning point USA, yes,
[02:30:50] but also for yourself.
[02:30:51] And so, Nikki-
[02:30:52] Okay, this stuff, oh God.
[02:30:53] I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you.
[02:31:00] Even when Nicki Minaj is grifting
[02:31:02] and talking about how sexy Donald Trump is or whatever,
[02:31:06] she still has like better stage presence, better charisma
[02:31:09] as like a person who has spent many, many years
[02:31:11] being on camera.
[02:31:12] Whenever Erica Kirk gets the mic and starts chirping,
[02:31:16] I'm like, Jesus Christ, when will this fucking stop?
[02:31:19] It's just like, she's saying so much
[02:31:21] and saying nothing at all at the same time.
[02:31:24] It's so riddeless.
[02:31:29] God damn, dude.
[02:31:30] Ay-ya-ya-yi.
[02:31:31] It's just, I need to skip it.
[02:31:34] World for your family and for your baby.
[02:31:42] That it's okay to change your mind.
[02:31:45] It's okay to change your mind.
[02:31:51] You don't have to...
[02:31:53] You know, sometimes there's a lot of things projected onto you
[02:31:57] when you change your own mind.
[02:31:59] You know, they project fear, shame onto people
[02:32:03] who don't think and do as they think and do.
[02:32:07] But I've traveled the world.
[02:32:10] I've performed for huge crowds all around the world.
[02:32:13] And no matter how many songs I do on that stage, it didn't mean as much as this.
[02:32:22] Because this is a direct-
[02:32:23] Oh my god.
[02:32:26] Being at the Turning Point USA conference means more to me than all of the concerts.
[02:32:35] God damn dude.
[02:32:38] God damn.
[02:32:39] She said, hey yo Barbz, you hear that?
[02:32:42] He said, fuck you.
[02:32:51] One of Nikki's only tweets about Trump is accusing someone else for pandering for a pardon.
[02:32:57] July 8th, 2025.
[02:32:59] Deseret, were you out marching with your fellow Mexican immigrants?
[02:33:01] Oh right, you were pardoned by President Trump, so you kind of can't write.
[02:33:04] I mean, it kind of implies you guys are cool with them while y'all seem to be pretend,
[02:33:08] while y'all seem to pretend to be against them.
[02:33:10] Or are y'all not his friend either anymore just like Diddy?
[02:33:13] I mean if someone pardoned me, we'd be friends for life.
[02:33:17] You've done so much evil to black people, now you've turned your back on your own as well,
[02:33:20] it seems.
[02:33:21] Don't you guys over there keep black artists fighting while you sit back and benefit from
[02:33:24] both parties?
[02:33:25] Have I gotten a pardon?
[02:33:26] President Trump, imagine the uproar.
[02:33:27] Yet the rock nation CEO does it and yup, you guessed it, silence.
[02:33:32] Black people, until you speak on this, you can never, ever, ever.
[02:33:37] I wonder how Deseret thank President Trump for that kind gesture. Hmm law got his bank
[02:33:41] woman allegedly calling her son-in-law and were with a hard R under the protection of
[02:33:46] y'all so-called black savior while y'all sat around making them rich when y'all needed
[02:33:50] them the most. They were silent though, huh? Chin up. Jay came out to perform recently.
[02:33:55] Once that legal stuff started coming out, yet when Obama was pleading for the brothers,
[02:34:00] the vote for Kamala, the richest, the most influential black rapper was nobody to
[02:34:03] be found maybe I'm forgetting I don't know did he even say one word it seems
[02:34:07] like an urgent request by the tone of Obama's speech yet billionaire brother
[02:34:11] billionaire never got in the field for y'all huh when y'all needed the most
[02:34:14] after all that money he made up the Democratic Party brainwash black people
[02:34:18] those blogs won't be here a year from now either so enjoy
[02:34:33] She was talking poster. She was posting talker copes. Yeah, this is like
[02:34:38] This was the this was the jump-off point and I'm just gonna run this real quick 15 or 13 minute video here
[02:34:45] For the new heads in here
[02:34:48] Being a leftist is about being right, but too early. Okay, and being endlessly punished for it
[02:34:55] Okay
[02:34:56] Now this is from when I initially called out Nicki Minaj for doing a right-wing pivot all the way back in
[02:35:02] 2021 at the peak of COVID, where she decided to become a COVID truth or speaking about how
[02:35:08] her cousin's balls were inflamed and massive due to the COVID vaccine.
[02:35:13] Let's take a look.
[02:35:14] Nicki Minaj is a huge rapper.
[02:35:17] She revealed she would not get vaccinated.
[02:35:19] They want you to get vaccinated for the Met.
[02:35:21] If I get vaccinated, it won't be for the Met.
[02:35:23] She would not be getting vaccinated until she did enough research.
[02:35:26] I'm working on that now.
[02:35:28] The rapper also went on to claim that my cousin, Intruder dad won't get the
[02:35:32] vaccine because his friend got it and his testicles swelled up so much his testicles became swollen
[02:35:36] he's got giant testicles his testicles became swollen his testicles became swollen you know the
[02:35:42] headline is like she's so dumb she thinks that it's gonna make your testicles fall off whatever
[02:35:46] they said complete lies by the way the cousin's friends balls exploded it's amazing to see the
[02:35:51] panic in the face just in care of nicky vanage his cousin's friends testicles are in a large
[02:35:56] I'm sorry Nicki Minaj, like, you're f***ing stupid.
[02:36:00] Nicki Minaj is anti-vax. Oh, let's go. They want you to get vaccinated for the MET. If I get vaccinated, it won't be for the MET. It'll be once I feel I've done enough research.
[02:36:08] I'm afraid I'm gonna get the f***ing Barb's hatred for this one, but you... I'm sorry Nicki Minaj. Like, you're f***ing stupid. And so am I.
[02:36:21] Like you're fucking stupid and so am I like you're never gonna be able to do your own research to figure out the the
[02:36:28] Technology behind the vaccine. Okay. I'm sorry. You're a fucking idiot like and so am I okay?
[02:36:34] I can't ratio Nicki Minaj, bro. She's a fucking the most active community dude. This is never gonna happen
[02:36:39] I mean, what are they gonna say you not doing you'll be eating alive even when you're speaking the truth
[02:36:44] I showed her Angel do it. They can't be any more rabid than you got a house
[02:36:51] Black people's business don't do it.
[02:36:53] Chile, big boobs, any of these work?
[02:36:55] What?
[02:36:56] What does that have to do with me?
[02:36:57] No, no.
[02:36:58] He's got a point.
[02:36:59] You're sort of confusing me, so uh...
[02:37:01] I'm not gonna say anything.
[02:37:03] The world awaits your wonderful contribution
[02:37:06] to the scientific community.
[02:37:07] I can't even fucking...
[02:37:08] The world awaits your wonderful contribution
[02:37:10] to the scientific community.
[02:37:11] There you go.
[02:37:12] Nobody got me.
[02:37:13] Fucking my community got me, okay?
[02:37:15] They did not got me!
[02:37:17] Ratio complete, get destroyed, Barbz.
[02:37:19] Me, ratio, and Nicki Minaj
[02:37:20] only brings the ire of the barbs to me. You understand that, right? Like, I feel like the
[02:37:25] barbs are gonna, they're gonna get mad and be like, I'm a racist person or something.
[02:37:30] Foreshadowing is a narrative device in which suggestions or warnings about events to come
[02:37:34] are dropped or planted. They haven't actually come for me that hard so far. I don't know.
[02:37:43] There's just so much going on. I ratioed Nicki Minaj. The barbs want to murder me a
[02:37:48] a little bit. All I know is that I fucking ratioed her into oblivion. It's very obvious
[02:37:52] that Nicki Minaj's cousin in full confidence was informed by their friend that their ball
[02:37:58] sack was swollen and they were impotent, most likely because they got a fucking STI. Okay?
[02:38:03] Boy, you didn't tell me your cousin was Nicki Minaj. The barbs are coming after me a little
[02:38:07] bit, not in the way that I thought they would. They haven't like sent death threats
[02:38:11] yet. Shut the fuck up. You really think you can go through the barbs as if we won't
[02:38:15] Eat your entire career up.
[02:38:17] Don't get too brave now.
[02:38:18] The only reason you have any sort of audience
[02:38:21] because you used to be hot.
[02:38:22] Now you're a fat, ugly guy who's aging
[02:38:25] at the speed of white.
[02:38:27] The clock's ticking in your jam near 40.
[02:38:29] You literally are in the middle of your lifespan
[02:38:31] and you're as self-conscious and ill tempered
[02:38:34] as a teenage boy.
[02:38:35] Why is a fucking Nicki Minaj fan
[02:38:37] talking about how I'm fucking rapidly reaching 40?
[02:38:41] Cog, you're a fucking Nicki Minaj fan.
[02:38:44] She's literally about to be 40.
[02:38:47] I am a fucking barber.
[02:38:48] I'm not saying that because like I don't want the wrath of the barbs to fucking murder me.
[02:38:52] Like he will be joining a concerned effort with like a bunch of Nazis that want to already fucking do this shit.
[02:38:58] So like welcome barbs to the Nazi movement.
[02:39:00] I guess foreshadowing as a narrative device.
[02:39:02] Oh
[02:39:11] A lot of moments like this in
[02:39:14] Old Hasse boys career, you know, but she's doing that thing where she's like, please show me where I said
[02:39:19] I'm worried about anything. That's bullshit. You literally posted the fucking ballsack thing because you were worried that this is a
[02:39:26] Backtrack why do people backtrack like this dude? Just be just say it with your chest. Yeah, you're fucking anti-vaxxer
[02:39:32] It's Nicki Minaj's cousin's France testicles who are swollen from taking the facts.
[02:39:40] That's the claim.
[02:39:41] It's the last part of Nicki Minaj's tweet that enrages them.
[02:39:46] Make the decision yourself like a free human being and quote, don't be bullied.
[02:39:57] I guess officially go to war with the barbs.
[02:39:58] They will fucking murder me.
[02:40:00] You know if I die, I die let's go
[02:40:08] Nicki Minaj so then yeah Nicki Minaj quote retweets me when I say you know he's a white nationalist right
[02:40:13] right I can't speak to agree with even look at someone from a particular political party people
[02:40:17] aren't human anymore if you're black and a democrat tells you to shove marbles up your
[02:40:21] ass you simply have to if another party tells you to look out for that bus stand there and
[02:40:25] and get hit.
[02:40:31] Ahem.
[02:40:40] Clock them!
[02:40:41] We're going to be doing it right.
[02:40:42] I can't speak to you to agree with or even look at someone from a particular political party.
[02:40:45] People aren't human anymore.
[02:40:46] If you're black and a Democrat tells you to shove Marvel's up your ass,
[02:40:49] you simply have to.
[02:40:50] If another party tells you to look out for the bus,
[02:40:52] and there and get hit.
[02:40:53] Calling all Barb's calling all Barb's Barb's are coming. The Barb's are coming. Yo, Nicki
[02:41:00] Minaj stands. Look at this, dude. Dang, you're really unstoppable. You represent a lot of people
[02:41:05] who are silenced. Like, what, what are you like a fucking white supremacist Nicki Minaj fan? How
[02:41:09] does this work, dude? Make this make sense to me. She liked it. We saying exactly not everything
[02:41:15] has to be about labeling and disagreeing with somebody just because they're a part of
[02:41:17] or something bro what they're a part of he's white nationalism what the fuck are
[02:41:23] you guys saying I am so confused yeah come on dude it's just a club like I
[02:41:28] don't get it I'm telling you Tucker Carlson wouldn't even let you on the
[02:41:36] bus and then people were like don't do it don't do it don't do it how dare you
[02:41:56] invoke how dare you invoke off of the the example that she used an analogy about
[02:42:03] about white supremacy. This was, yeah. And this was my, exactly. This was my first cancellation
[02:42:12] by black Twitter. This was it. This was the first time. And ever since then, ever since
[02:42:21] then every single other time, it's always been shit like this. Okay. It's always been
[02:42:27] shit like this. Now, part of the reason why I'm showing you this is not, this should
[02:42:31] be like, Oh, look, I was right all along. You know, you should listen to me. Okay. Don't
[02:42:39] love black Twitter with the barbs. No, back then the barbs were a major force to be reckoned
[02:42:45] with on black Twitter. Don't even act like that wasn't the case. We're talking 2021.
[02:42:50] It's not anymore. It's not anymore. But back then, back then the barbs were a force
[02:42:59] to be reckoned with on black Twitter. There were a lot of major, uh, uh, there were a lot
[02:43:06] of major black Twitter celebrities that were barbs themselves openly. Do not even fucking
[02:43:12] lie. Do not even fucking lie and act like that wasn't the case. It's not anymore. It's
[02:43:17] not anymore. And I think a lot of people have probably reflected on their past behavior,
[02:43:22] their past allegiances, their past attitudes. So that's why they're like a little embarrassed
[02:43:26] by it. But that was the case.
[02:43:35] Buzz joke for a white guy's dangerous territory. Come on,
[02:43:37] come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. Come on. Come on.
[02:43:40] Let's, it's been fucking, it's been four years. Can we be
[02:43:44] serious? It was cynical. It was fucking cynical. The
[02:43:53] barbs cynically leaned into, well, you're racist for telling a black woman that she's not allowed
[02:44:01] to align with white nationalists. She's a black woman. She's allowed to align with
[02:44:06] white nationalists if she wants to. Okay, well, now she's aligning with all the white
[02:44:11] nationalists. What's up? While they're doing white nationalism.
[02:44:15] them no really that's unacceptable why do not say that what the fuck what am I
[02:44:29] saying like I'm saying Tucker Carlson is racist like that's what I'm saying okay
[02:44:33] I won't do it I don't want to fucking get clapped up why do people backtrack
[02:44:37] like this. Yeah. It was not even these people are acting like you said the m word. No, it
[02:44:46] wasn't even that. It wasn't even fucking I didn't even tweet it out. That's the best part.
[02:44:53] Not only did I not tweet it out. They literally filmed like they they clipped the part where
[02:45:00] I'm like, All right, sure, I won't tweet it out. And they they said the the intention
[02:45:06] behind that was the most white supremacists, the most white supremacists thing you could
[02:45:12] have done or whatever the fuck, like it's a bad look, sweetie. It's a bad look, sweetie.
[02:45:18] And then they just pummeled that shit into the fucking ground. And to this day, I still
[02:45:23] think it's like it was peak woke. So a lot of people were maybe maybe a lot of people
[02:45:31] were a little bit too peak woke, peak woke-ified. Yeah, I didn't even post the tweet. They just
[02:45:39] scree-shotted me typing it out and were like, you tried to post this racially insensitive tweet.
[02:45:46] Yeah, that was woke one. That was woke one. And people still will do it. They'll be like,
[02:45:52] it's a bad look. Brother, brother, brother. It is contextually not a bad look at all. It
[02:46:02] is the analogy that she's using, and it's about me talking about a white supremacist.
[02:46:12] Okay, not go either people who told you not to tweet that, save you from the cancellation.
[02:46:16] It didn't work. People still fucking canceled me, which is why it's bullshit.
[02:46:20] Cancelation is bullshit. It's not real
[02:46:24] Oh, they locked her Twitter because she was like still doing fucking anti-vax shit. Oops
[02:46:34] They didn't like what I was saying over there on that block
[02:46:37] I guess my pole was gonna be asking questions. Okay, I like being fucking dumb then boom can't wait
[02:46:43] She keeps relegating back to like I'm not actually an anti-vaxer. I'm just asking questions
[02:46:48] You know Tucker Carlson likes asking questions, too
[02:46:50] Like should black people be allowed to vote? Yeah, literally. Look at what Tucker Carlson said about the guy he resorted off
[02:46:56] Thanks, Austin ox. You just get Nikki suspended on Twitter for doubling down. No, that was not me
[02:47:01] Please don't say that that was me. I don't want the fucking barbs to murder me and my family. Okay
[02:47:07] He's live on IG
[02:47:11] 145,000 watching your holy shit
[02:47:14] You guys has something ever happened in your life
[02:47:18] And you didn't really pay it much mind, right?
[02:47:20] But then you slept on it, and then you realized
[02:47:24] there was something even more layered there.
[02:47:29] You had to unwrap it and unravel it, right?
[02:47:32] And sometimes, something that was meaningless to you
[02:47:38] or not that meaningful becomes a gem
[02:47:41] when you go back and unravel it, right?
[02:47:45] Uh-oh. What the fuck?
[02:47:47] Is this Nicki Minaj's Joker moment? What the fuck dude?
[02:47:51] It's starting to feel a little scary that you can't speak.
[02:47:57] You can't speak for the fear of the mob attacking you.
[02:48:05] Oh god, oh no.
[02:48:07] And that doesn't give you chills up and down, you're fucking fine.
[02:48:10] Bro, this is literally the beginning of-
[02:48:12] This is scary.
[02:48:14] This is one hundredth of the beginnings of like culture, uh, culture wars shit, like
[02:48:19] anti-cultures.
[02:48:20] You never just ask questions about anything you're putting inside your mind.
[02:48:25] But don't you see what's fucking happening?
[02:48:29] Don't you?
[02:48:30] Historians one day will look back at this moment, cultural anthropologists will look
[02:48:34] back at this moment, watch this video and go, oh, this was a turning point.
[02:48:38] It makes sense.
[02:48:39] This is just like China.
[02:48:40] We are living now in that time, where people will turn their back on you if you don't only
[02:48:47] not agree, fuck not agree, but people will isolate you if you simply speak and ask a
[02:48:58] question.
[02:48:59] Y'all don't see what the fuck is happening?
[02:49:03] And Twitter can just, the way they cast the ass.
[02:49:06] Almost an entire year after her brother once again was sentenced to 25 years for child rape for the record
[02:49:12] That was I think probably another, you know, big pivot point
[02:49:15] Up and stop me from asking questions
[02:49:21] To stop a person from seeing
[02:49:24] So what it's making me think now is that there's something bigger
[02:49:28] to it
[02:49:30] You know like when I kept on seeing all these people with all these conspiracy theories
[02:49:34] I would be like, oh, what? Oh, please, you know.
[02:49:37] But what in the world scared y'all that much?
[02:49:41] That mage and this able, my fucking Twitter?
[02:49:43] Oh, what the fuck? I'm trending on Twitter?
[02:49:46] Oh, no.
[02:49:47] But listen to me, please, open your fucking eyes.
[02:49:54] Open your eyes.
[02:49:56] Hehehe.
[02:50:00] This all.
[02:50:01] I'm like, fuck you, you're like, oh,
[02:50:03] you're gonna see our boys now, bitch!
[02:50:05] It considers himself to be...
[02:50:07] Do you think Tucker Carl... Yeah.
[02:50:08] Yep, yep, yep, yep.
[02:50:10] This doesn't even seem to be using black trauma as a joke
[02:50:12] to prove a point.
[02:50:13] You don't gotta tell me nothing because I'm a black person
[02:50:15] telling you what race is.
[02:50:16] You're a white man and you have no place
[02:50:18] to tell me what's offensive and not to my community.
[02:50:20] Do you think Tucker Carlson, being prosaic
[02:50:22] is a joke?
[02:50:23] It's not a joke to me.
[02:50:24] It's a kid on her issue.
[02:50:25] You're acting dense and not understanding
[02:50:27] what people are saying.
[02:50:28] Your performative activism of using black trauma
[02:50:30] is weird and races bro what the fuck are you talking about you're this mad about a
[02:50:35] tweet that stated the drafts instead of a dude who says brown and black immigrants
[02:50:38] are dirty every night to 9 million hockey's being promoted by your favorite
[02:50:41] artist deranged stand behavior back then I used to entertain this kind of stuff
[02:50:48] a lot more I would just like reply over and over again I would just do good
[02:50:52] out didn't give a shit so pretty much typing and saying a racist clap back
[02:50:58] means it's not racist. You knew not to tweet it due to your own following telling not to post it.
[02:51:02] You keep deflecting on what we are discussing now and literally nobody on this thread defending him.
[02:51:08] No, the counter, no, the counter is not racist. People in my chest,
[02:51:10] I mean, because they knew dumbass stands like you would latch onto it because it's easy to
[02:51:13] misconstru and deflect away from your own guilty conscience that you don't like that your
[02:51:16] faith posted positively about a white nationalist. I want to read these, this Twitter thread with
[02:51:25] the with sound effects you know what I mean like
[02:51:33] like just every time
[02:51:37] like that
[02:51:41] leftists are so racist wow racism is when you point out Tucker Carlson would be pro segregation
[02:51:47] thank you for the brilliant analysis I didn't even send a tweet but it's wild that Barb's apparently
[02:51:51] are more sensitive about my drafts than Tucker's white nationalism. Yeah, yeah, whatever, but
[02:51:56] this is weird. Nicki Minaj is in Twitter jail and her IG story sounds like the origin story
[02:52:00] of the Joker talking about cancer culture, etc. How the mob is similar to Chinese censorship.
[02:52:05] Tucker Carlson is 100% pro segregation. If you're more mad about me pointing that out,
[02:52:08] perhaps you care more about standing Nikki than anything else.
[02:52:15] That's that account now.
[02:52:21] Which is the less
[02:52:37] Anyway, let's keep going
[02:52:40] End it and literally said he did not care either like may as want to decide what is it isn't racist
[02:52:46] Barbs using use half the synergy against Tucker Carl Tucker Carlson challenge impossible difficulty
[02:52:54] The issue is that and then Armenian e-girl the issue is that people have is the comments and jokes like this blah blah blah is a non starter
[02:53:08] The entire threat of responses are psychotic
[02:53:11] No one is defending Tucker here either. Why are you going so hard to defend a joke so
[02:53:17] poor and taste that even your own dumbass chatter told you not to post? Hunter HHS!
[02:53:23] I like you dog, but this is weird. Because I don't think it's a fucking joke, man. My
[02:53:27] chatter stopped me because they knew it would get misconstrued and weaponized by
[02:53:29] weirdos. They were desperate to latch on to anything for people criticizing Nikki
[02:53:32] to move the attention elsewhere as they're doing now.
[02:53:38] We'll be on them who needs to be ready.
[02:53:41] You're shaking and throwing up.
[02:53:43] This is unblocking the entire staff play because you're not being able to wait.
[02:53:48] It's a black face.
[02:53:52] It gets worse. Hassan, you are dead.
[02:54:01] You are a white man. How the fuck are you gonna tell us what is and what isn't races?
[02:54:05] White leftist or races, he thought he killed this. Dot, dot, dot. You and Tucker can go to hell. All Stan shit aside.
[02:54:13] So, not every black person who is mad at you, Hasan Antey. Not every black person who is mad at you is a barb or Stan U brick face.
[02:54:21] Now, here's the thing. That's true. That's true.
[02:54:29] Like genuinely, if he doesn't apologize for shit like this, I can't see myself watching his content anymore.
[02:54:34] Not every person that was yelling at me was black and not every person that was yelling at me was a Nicki Minaj stand
[02:54:43] Okay, and yes
[02:54:45] The brick face part is true. I do have a break up face anyway
[02:54:49] but what's interesting is
[02:54:52] At least from my perspective two things I want to talk about number one
[02:54:55] left this tendency to pile on because they think there is a
[02:55:01] a situation where
[02:55:04] Someone is being immoral from their perspective left his purity spirals and how quickly they jump on board
[02:55:11] Without really thinking about it critically especially because it's gonna look bad in that moment, right?
[02:55:16] It's gonna look bad. No one wants to fucking stake their claim or their reputation to be like, hey guys
[02:55:20] This is the person who has spent the last at that point, you know, 10 years of his career
[02:55:26] Advocating for these issues. I think I think we're like jumping on him for no reason
[02:55:30] No everybody gets in on it even the hunter hh h guy who I think is like still a fan right like he's not like a bad person at all
[02:55:39] So that's number one
[02:55:40] That's number one number two
[02:55:43] at no point at
[02:55:45] No point that I fucking turn around and go you know what?
[02:55:52] You know what
[02:55:54] Everybody's yelling at me. They're calling me a white supremacist. They're trying to fucking cancel me
[02:55:59] They're trying to fucking cancel me. I guess I'm right-wing now. You know who did do that though fucking Nicki Minaj
[02:56:06] Okay, that's the difference have some fucking conviction as a leftist
[02:56:11] I
[02:56:12] Despise the left and yet that does not shake me away from the convictions that I have putting empathy first in my politics
[02:56:20] making sure that everyone is
[02:56:23] Is everyone is doing their very best to leave a better world a better future
[02:56:29] That's what you got to be like be a little bit more stubborn have a little bit more fucking conviction. What is this nonsense?
[02:56:36] Oh my god, the left is mad at me. They're canceling me. They're calling me a racist. Well, I'll show them
[02:56:42] I'll become it get the fuck out of here
[02:56:45] You're not a real one. You're not a real one. You know how many fucking points this shit
[02:56:51] it. So our barge is stupid stands. Barbs are stands that Nicki Minaj. Okay. But that's
[02:56:58] not, but this isn't just barbs. There are fucking other annoying leftists on here who
[02:57:01] are jumping on board too. Yeah. Using black trauma as a joke and tell the black people,
[02:57:07] what were dumb ass dance. We're not agreeing with you is definitely not races. Right?
[02:57:13] Like think about, think about where this came from. Also, some of the stands are
[02:57:19] still on it for the record. I have to get ready sir. I have to go to work. I have to go to work.
[02:57:25] I'm sorry. I can't understand. You're a white man. How the fuck are you going to tell us what is
[02:57:29] and what isn't racist? You're really sitting here deflecting and telling us what you said
[02:57:32] isn't wrong. That person is still on the Nikki train. Okay.
[02:57:36] Okay.
[02:57:37] That's all that was the most brutal clapback I've ever seen you make.
[02:57:51] I stuck it through woke one.
[02:57:53] I'll stick it through woke two.
[02:57:54] I don't give a fuck.
[02:57:57] Okay.
[02:58:00] Call me a fucking racist.
[02:58:01] Call me a fucking white supremacist.
[02:58:02] Call me transphobic.
[02:58:03] Call me Islamophobic.
[02:58:04] Call me anti-Semitic.
[02:58:06] I'm going to stand by the things I believe, okay?
[02:58:09] That's it.
[02:58:10] If you had started grifting in that moment, it could have been you and Provo, Utah.
[02:58:13] Oh, shit.
[02:58:15] Here is the original thread.
[02:58:17] Yeah.
[02:58:19] Look back with today's eyes on this conversation.
[02:58:23] No, the counter is not raises people in my chat.
[02:58:33] By the way, this person goes, hmm, as a dunk.
[02:58:37] This tweet is literally about
[02:58:41] Bill Maher using the N word with a hard R.
[02:58:49] Do you think that's the same?
[02:58:57] Hassan, I'm begging you to tweet that thread
[02:58:59] at that person.
[02:59:00] No, because I'm not a fucking petty bitch.
[02:59:02] Also, he's still powered by RainBett.com,
[02:59:04] so I don't really care.
[02:59:06] And secondly, it's all right.
[02:59:10] I don't care about fucking winning a dub
[02:59:13] and like humiliating someone and being petty like that.
[02:59:16] I care about, I care, like that person,
[02:59:19] he's already dropped the whole stand shit.
[02:59:22] He's not a Barb anymore.
[02:59:23] Who gives a fuck, okay?
[02:59:25] And it's not even about being a Barb.
[02:59:27] It's about, it's not even about like standing
[02:59:31] a manage or it's not about any of that shit it's actually just about making sure that people are
[02:59:37] fighting for the right causes making sure that people do not make enemies of those who are on
[02:59:43] their side okay that's why i'm very open about people who have in the past farmed me for hatred
[02:59:51] attacked me all this time if they actually come on board if they actually come on board if they
[02:59:57] They actually say, hey, you know what?
[02:59:59] I'm gonna let bygones be bygones.
[03:00:00] I was wrong or whatever the fuck.
[03:00:03] I'm with you, okay?
[03:00:06] That's it.
[03:00:07] It hurts, it hurts up far more.
[03:00:09] I mean, I love, like I've said,
[03:00:11] I love when my enemies hate me, right?
[03:00:13] Enemies on the right, they hate me all day, every day.
[03:00:15] That's awesome, okay?
[03:00:17] That's great, that's fantastic.
[03:00:19] I'm always on board with that.
[03:00:21] You know, great.
[03:00:23] I hate when it's someone who presents themselves
[03:00:26] a liberal or someone who presents those like a like a progressive minded person that comes in
[03:00:33] and tries to fucking undermine what I'm trying to do from that perspective from a progressive
[03:00:38] perspective I hate that shit but but it still will not shake my convictions okay
[03:00:56] I like that many things have not changed though like a bunch of fucking weirdo
[03:01:13] Nikki stands elevated some shit the random parts of black Twitter now actually funny
[03:01:16] cool and chill people think I'm racist man fuck those people too to be honest
[03:01:18] it won't fucking thing you see from a deranged person it tweets about a 38 year
[03:01:22] old woman 24 hours a day is enough for you to write me off the fuck you there are
[03:01:27] people tweeting about how I'm their hyper fixation and I'm in the process of
[03:01:30] being canceled a mile remember 2021 Twitter a lot of these kids saw the
[03:01:36] anti-shawee memes and were like that's my template of who I should be like
[03:01:44] please look at this person's name as they shame me Hasan you are dead
[03:01:52] that was me defending you in that Twitter space I still haven't recovered to this day I wake
[03:02:03] up in hot sweats talking about Romans revenge like I was still in that space I commissioned
[03:02:08] myself a purple heart medal and has CMAC bestowed upon me for my participation in this
[03:02:12] war yeah I remember that brave warrior yeah I don't think I've seen you get dug in
[03:02:19] and reply to as many dumb fucks in one night lam out no i used to do that way more frequently
[03:02:23] back in the day i don't do that for this reason because obviously replying the fucking dumbass
[03:02:28] reply guys only escalates the situation only elevates it because for many people they're
[03:02:34] like oh this is my opportunity to get one on them right it's the same as like responding
[03:02:40] to every fucking grain name in the chat makes me so makes me so mad every time this shit
[03:02:46] It happens obviously my POV isn't gonna change but it makes me so fucking sad when I see random kids like yo
[03:02:50] I used to love you what the fuck happened to you?
[03:02:54] So I watched this song
[03:02:56] I'm also a part of it and I think about the way you do everything
[03:02:59] You say that you made mistakes which is not racist in general
[03:03:03] We should talk about it with the platform
[03:03:05] I'm just saying his song has done a lot to like black rice obviously he's made a mistake
[03:03:09] He's a white person
[03:03:11] What the fuck?
[03:03:13] The one the one time the one time someone is fucking out there trying to stick their neck out
[03:03:23] Stick their Kirk out. They're like put that Kirk back in put it back in the turtle shell
[03:03:34] Calling out Nicki Minaj's allegiances four years in the past to a to a to the most powerful white nationalists at the time
[03:03:43] is actually new age white race and new age racism.
[03:03:47] Yeah, new age racism like the old one is dead by the way.
[03:03:51] Like there's a need for a new version.
[03:03:54] Like the old, you know, classic style,
[03:03:56] white supremacy went away at all.
[03:03:59] It's like using slavery analogies.
[03:04:03] It's so offensive and it's still.
[03:04:08] Like using slavery analogies.
[03:04:11] I've already abandoned me. They've left. They left at the first side of conflict, which
[03:04:27] is fine. I understand. Last night I ended the broadcast and I just decided to crack my
[03:04:32] knuckles and go the fuck in. Dive the fuck in. It's probably one of the worst things
[03:04:36] you can do engaging with stan twitter was curious wait a minute how you finally accomplish
[03:04:40] whitehood like you just had to call out white supremacy to uh uh black white supremacists
[03:04:44] instantly join the in group no dude these people are just they're everyone is just struggling
[03:04:51] okay they're just trying to figure out what they believe and and what their place is in
[03:04:58] society that's it you can't take this stuff seriously okay that's all it is that's that's
[03:05:04] the point. You understand? It's not, it's not that serious. It's not that serious. When
[03:05:12] someone on the internet calls you a white supremacist and you have your convictions
[03:05:18] and you have your belief system and you, you think white supremacy is, is morally
[03:05:24] repugnant. Okay. And you actively do your very best to fight back against that kind
[03:05:29] thing and then like a shit ton of people are just saying that to you as was the case as
[03:05:36] was the case for the entire fucking week that this stuff went on for you have enough you
[03:05:45] have two options and this is something that I've gone through so many so many times you
[03:05:48] have either you take it sincerely and you're like oh man oh why did these all why why all
[03:05:55] these people betray me so you're saying why is the premise is not that serious no
[03:05:58] you fucking idiot. I'm saying that if you're not a white supremacist and you're anti-racist,
[03:06:01] people calling you a white supremacist is not that serious. You can just let it wash
[03:06:05] over you instead of making it your entire life's mission to turn around and prove that
[03:06:11] those people were right. Okay? Shut up. You know exactly what I meant and you want
[03:06:17] to be a bitch about it. Okay?
[03:06:19] It's not a great idea. It was, uh, it was not a good idea. It was not a good
[03:06:27] I mean, I was just like I was just replying to random people like how the fuck did we get here from Nicki Minaj's cousins friends balls
[03:06:34] When I say Tucker Carlson would have been an advocate to make sure that Nicki Minaj can't even get on the bus
[03:06:39] Let alone of the bag of the bus. I mean it I stand by that sentiment a million times over. I was not joking
[03:06:45] It was not a joke. None of that was a joke. I was 100% right on this take. It was not a joke
[03:06:49] I read something on Twitter that actually really upset me. This is a black community member who's a fan
[03:06:54] So after the entire night of just like blasting fucking random teenagers on the internet defending and doubling down
[03:07:02] When I read this I realized like I'm sorry. I am. I'm sorry. I am
[03:07:08] there's a lot of people that I truly love and truly care for and
[03:07:13] Truly don't want to hurt the feelings of no
[03:07:16] I am apologizing not to the fucking psycho deranged a piece of the shit
[03:07:19] But I am apologizing to people who felt conflicted about this
[03:07:24] I never want someone like this person in my community to ever feel like I am
[03:07:29] Dehumanizing them you guys are so fucking stupid. I did I'm done with this chat. I'm done with this fucking community
[03:07:34] I swear to God why do people backtrack like this, dude?
[03:07:38] so
[03:07:39] My my attitude on a lot of this stuff
[03:07:43] My attitude a lot of this stuff is sometimes
[03:07:45] Sometimes being hyper-rational about things like this is not the appropriate response at
[03:07:51] all.
[03:07:52] There's no reason to dig in.
[03:07:56] If you have hurt people's feelings, even if you stand by your convictions, it's still
[03:08:05] that Redditor is currently an Ethan Klein fan.
[03:08:07] Are you fucking kidding me?
[03:08:10] The person that was conflicted about my tweet is standing a dude with a eight minute N word
[03:08:19] with a hard R compilation?
[03:08:21] This is why I never apologize.
[03:08:33] No, it's because it's not that person.
[03:08:35] It's not.
[03:08:36] I'm not apologizing to the person because there's, it's the same principle behind
[03:08:39] like uh uh you know the the the sudan cancellation where they were like hason said black people
[03:08:46] with a hard b right like i think i know who i am i know what i represent i know what my beliefs are
[03:08:53] i know that there are other people out there who don't know that and it doesn't
[03:08:57] fucking matter right either you can be an asshole or you can just be like you know what i'm sorry
[03:09:02] that you know this was a hurtful moment and that's it like that's it there's no there's no
[03:09:08] reason to just like continue fucking having this endless cycle this endless bag of forth what I'm
[03:09:13] trying to say is sometimes it's okay to be irrational or to respond to people behaving in an irrational
[03:09:19] manner because this is a sensitive issue okay that's it
[03:09:29] you talked about Sudan is an idea or a thing in relation to Palestine not as a genuine thing like
[03:09:33] Oh my fucking god this guy is still doing it. No, dude. No, no, we've already moved on from that. Okay, there's been numerous instances
[03:09:40] Where I have already covered Sudan you're literally using an ongoing fucking conflict where people are being slaughtered as a talking point right now, dude
[03:09:49] Fuck. Oh my fucking lord. Stop
[03:09:53] Jesus Christ
[03:09:57] Anyway, um the point is
[03:10:00] is what I always think to myself in heated moments
[03:10:05] of crisis or conflict that's like oftentimes
[03:10:07] manufactured hysteria that is a great opportunity
[03:10:11] for a lot of the different communities of enemies
[03:10:15] that I've cultivated that totally lead into it cynically
[03:10:19] is we're gonna look back at this
[03:10:22] like a couple of years later down the line
[03:10:24] and we're gonna laugh about it.
[03:10:25] Okay, as we do with the house, right?
[03:10:30] As we do with the house saga as we do with the Hassan least the poor saga as we do with all these other things
[03:10:39] Right like even a couple months after the fact
[03:10:42] I think people look back at it and then they laugh at it like in the very moment
[03:10:47] When the sob or hummus thing was taking place a lot of people were just like oh my god
[03:10:52] This is the peak of anti-semitism like they they got whipped into a frenzy right or the Gucci shirt
[03:10:58] That's another good one like
[03:11:00] Like it was so, it was so stupid.
[03:11:02] It was such a stupid thing to lean into, okay?
[03:11:07] And the very people that actually cynically pushed it, the very people that actually cynically
[03:11:12] pushed it non-fucking stop, are now actually actively doing an about face.
[03:11:19] And they're doing it not in the best ways possible, obviously they're doing it without
[03:11:22] actually recognizing their, you know, own personal role in this, the censorship environment
[03:11:28] that they cultivated, but that's it.
[03:11:36] When you look back at this stuff a couple months later
[03:11:39] or a year later in the rear view mirror,
[03:11:42] you realize you just got to let some shit wash over you.
[03:11:48] And you got to stay true to your convictions
[03:11:51] and you got to keep pushing
[03:11:52] if you have firm commitments to certain causes.
[03:11:55] If you affirm commitments, okay, you just have to let the shit wash over you.
[03:12:08] You can't, you can't get upset.
[03:12:10] You can't get mad.
[03:12:12] It doesn't matter.
[03:12:13] No matter how hard people yell at you and no matter how silly their perspective might
[03:12:18] be, right?
[03:12:20] It did actually kind of make me sad though.
[03:12:22] They're always after you.
[03:12:23] know that you've got aunties out here who know this is all bad faith and inshaAllah you
[03:12:27] want to deal with this shit folks have been watching you know you're how praying for you
[03:12:30] yeah but I also account for the fact that like I I I know that not everyone is going
[03:12:36] to not everyone is going to know where I'm coming from especially in like the clip
[03:12:41] culture that we live in now right they're not gonna know where the fuck I'm coming
[03:12:46] from. They just see a white guy and if it's presented cynically enough, if it's presented
[03:12:59] poorly enough, shittily enough and they see a white guy doing it, they will lean into it.
[03:13:11] It will say, oh yeah, no, this guy is white supremacist.
[03:13:13] It's like, I ran, but reflected about me too.
[03:13:16] But ultimately, your actions will speak louder than the words, okay?
[03:13:22] If you don't like me, that's fine, but, you know, watch your mouth.
[03:13:31] Oh, you bitches, throw the puck, uh-oh, got your ass up.
[03:13:34] This one is for the boys.
[03:13:36] Bar's victory.
[03:13:37] Yeah, well, we might have lost that battle,
[03:13:39] But we seemingly are winning the war, I think.
[03:13:42] And by that, I just mean, I was right.
[03:13:44] I was right to call it out back then,
[03:13:46] and I saw something settling in,
[03:13:49] and it turns out it took four fucking years
[03:13:53] for it to be firmly established,
[03:13:56] but that's where we're at, okay?
[03:14:09] Bars will be white nationals by association if they do not dissociate with Minaj probably.
[03:14:28] People could be in the Ky-Gate PMO because parasolish bitches who don't even watch think
[03:14:31] they know everything.
[03:14:32] Yes.
[03:14:33] Um, you know, it'll keep happening.
[03:14:38] It'll keep happening, bro.
[03:14:43] That was four years ago.
[03:14:44] Yeah.
[03:14:47] And also, there were some iconic moments from that conversation, of course, but, hey,
[03:14:58] the question I would have to someone from a, you know, from not from this community,
[03:15:02] like someone who maybe developed an attitude. Developed an attitude about me being like a
[03:15:10] racist, you know, white supremacist, whatever, four years ago in that and then just like never
[03:15:15] really checked back in to see where I was at. Do you feel like my convictions have
[03:15:24] changed? Do you feel like my attitudes have changed? Do you feel like I'm or am I still
[03:15:30] advocating for the things I'm advocating for, you know,
[03:15:46] hilarious to think back then, no one would think that Tucker and Nikki would be found in the same
[03:15:50] place. Well, I did. I did. Okay. There was someone who thought that Tucker Carlson and Nikki
[03:16:00] Nicki Minaj were, uh, you know, in the same place, me and I got yelled at it.
[03:16:06] Y'all that for it.
[03:16:07] Fuck it endlessly.
[03:16:15] But like I said, two things that I always tell you whenever, because there's a
[03:16:19] lot of, there's a lot of white people in this community, right?
[03:16:21] And then people go like, Oh, all these people are yelling at you.
[03:16:25] Like, you know, black people, you keep saying your racist, your white
[03:16:28] supremacist all this shit and it's like oh why do you you know like what are you
[03:16:36] doing that situation I'm like who gives a fuck okay what do I always tell you you
[03:16:42] are not you are not advocating against white supremacy because you want black
[03:16:48] people to think you're fucking cool it's not transactional you're doing it
[03:16:51] because white supremacy is morally repugnant you're doing it because it's
[03:16:56] right. Okay? That's it. So you just got to remind yourself of your if you're having a moment of
[03:17:02] of crisis in your convictions, you know, you just you just have to remind yourself of that.
[03:17:09] My ex-situationship and ex-best friend are leftist, but they don't like you because you are a
[03:17:12] misogynist because of your past and believe you hold these convictions still your old
[03:17:15] podcast and stuff. I guess, yeah, who gives a fuck? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, they're
[03:17:21] They're right. They're right. They're right. Okay, who cares? Just, you know.
[03:17:34] Anyway, we got J.D. Vance, but Trump is live right now, so I'm going to tune into that.
[03:17:42] President Trump is making an announcement with the Secretary of War and the Secretary of Navy.
[03:17:45] It's about like the new ships that they're building. They're building the Golden Fleet.
[03:17:51] and the change, not just in terms of applying American
[03:17:54] war power, increasing our ability to protect the seas.
[03:17:56] The U.S. Navy is the single biggest source of peace in the
[03:18:00] world of all of our forces because it gives us a global
[03:18:02] footprint, but it rebuilds American industrial capacity.
[03:18:05] The ability to make things again in our country has been
[03:18:08] critical to what the President's agenda has been
[03:18:10] all about, and this is a tangible reminder of it.
[03:18:12] And I know the country is grateful for it, and
[03:18:14] generations of Americans will be grateful for it.
[03:18:16] So thank you.
[03:18:17] Thank you, Walter.
[03:18:18] By the way, I think I'd just like to point out that
[03:18:21] These ships are made of steel as opposed to aluminum.
[03:18:25] It's a big difference, as you know.
[03:18:27] Battle ships are great battle ships
[03:18:28] at six- and seven-inch steel hulls.
[03:18:32] And these are going to be likewise made out
[03:18:34] of very powerful steel.
[03:18:36] Our steel industry is coming back very strongly, by the way.
[03:18:39] It's coming back at record numbers.
[03:18:42] And we're going to be using them for the steel,
[03:18:44] but as opposed to an aluminum side,
[03:18:46] which in all fairness is not the same.
[03:18:50] So, John, we're going with all steel, I understand.
[03:18:53] And that's going to be something that people
[03:18:56] are surprised more expensive, but not even comparable
[03:19:00] in terms of the importance and the strength.
[03:19:03] Yeah, please.
[03:19:04] What's your time table for these first two ships?
[03:19:06] And do you see them as a counter to China?
[03:19:08] We'll start almost immediately,
[03:19:10] and we'll probably talk in about two and a half years.
[03:19:14] And in terms of emissions, do you see it
[03:19:15] as a counter to China?
[03:19:18] It's a counter to everybody.
[03:19:19] It's not China.
[03:19:20] We get along great with China.
[03:19:22] Have a great relationship with President Xi.
[03:19:24] And not China.
[03:19:25] It's just everybody.
[03:19:27] You don't know who comes along, but we just wanted peace
[03:19:31] through strength.
[03:19:31] Hopefully, we'd never have to use them.
[03:19:33] But there will never be anything built like these.
[03:19:36] Think of it.
[03:19:37] Those battleships are incredible.
[03:19:38] These have 100 times the power.
[03:19:42] Think of that to me.
[03:19:43] And they were big, and they were powerful.
[03:19:46] You know, I thought about taking some that are in dry dark
[03:19:50] and changing them.
[03:19:51] And then when I said that, you know, if we did,
[03:19:54] we'd be about, we could increase, if we doubled them,
[03:19:58] they'd be at like just a tiny fraction
[03:20:00] of what one of these was.
[03:20:01] This is the new technology, which is incredible.
[03:20:05] So we decided pretty early on not to do that.
[03:20:07] Yeah, please.
[03:20:08] Mr. President, I'm going to ask you with the most
[03:20:10] piece of that.
[03:20:11] Battleships are big guns that are used in modern
[03:20:12] neighbors in the 1980s.
[03:20:13] You could call aircraft carriers, cruisers,
[03:20:15] Shores on battleships that you're gonna start that same program. Yeah, he's bringing battleships back, baby
[03:20:21] What put the biggest guns? No more need for?
[03:20:25] No more need for airplanes. Everyone knows airplanes are woke. We got to bring the big guns back
[03:20:32] I mean, I do think that like big gun battleships are kind of cool. I will admit that
[03:20:37] Okay, I
[03:20:39] Do think that they're like
[03:20:41] They're technically cooler than, you know, having a fucking nuclear-powered
[03:20:47] city
[03:20:48] Roaming around the planet with a fuck ton of airplanes attached to it that just go and hit targets very far away
[03:20:56] I think it's cooler if you're just like literally maneuvering the shit
[03:21:00] And you got to put make sure the cannons line up old-school style, you know
[03:21:06] That's cool like that's a
[03:21:09] objectively a cooler way to wage war
[03:21:11] than this new lame shit that we're doing.
[03:21:15] Turn it over with Venezuela?
[03:21:16] Yes.
[03:21:17] Well, you had a different kind of a president before me.
[03:21:20] They didn't mind being ripped off.
[03:21:22] They didn't mind being ripped off.
[03:21:22] Yeah, we should bring back boarding like pirates.
[03:21:24] I agree.
[03:21:25] I think that's also cool.
[03:21:27] I think it's cooler to just like,
[03:21:30] jump off from, you know,
[03:21:33] just like have a bunch of ropes tied up
[03:21:35] and you like jump into the other ship
[03:21:37] and you're using knives and weapons.
[03:21:41] like you're using, not even like small arms,
[03:21:43] you're using like, you know, swords and shields and axes
[03:21:47] and whatever you can find, you're going,
[03:21:48] ah!
[03:21:50] It's time!
[03:21:51] We board the ship, matey!
[03:21:54] And you know, and then like,
[03:21:55] the most like complicated weapon you have is a blunder bus.
[03:22:00] Right?
[03:22:01] Oh, that's the questions we're protesting,
[03:22:02] that too many of them were retracted.
[03:22:04] I know there are a lot of people
[03:22:05] that are angry about all of the pictures of other people,
[03:22:09] but I think it's terrible.
[03:22:11] Look, I like Bill Clinton.
[03:22:14] I've always gotten along with Bill Clinton.
[03:22:15] He's been nice to him, he's been nice to me.
[03:22:17] We've always gotten along, respect him.
[03:22:19] I hate to see photos come out of him,
[03:22:21] but this is what the Democrats, mostly Democrats,
[03:22:24] and a couple of bad Republicans are asking for.
[03:22:27] So they give him their photos of me too.
[03:22:29] Everybody was friendly with this guy,
[03:22:31] either friendly or not friendly, but he was around,
[03:22:33] he was all over Palm Beach and other places.
[03:22:35] The head of Harvard was his best friend, Larry Summers.
[03:22:39] And Bill Clinton was a friend of his,
[03:22:40] everybody was. I actually threw him out of Mar-a-Lago. And as a person I threw him out of Mar-a-Lago.
[03:22:48] I'm a white hat pedophile, everyone knows. All right, when I was doing it, I was doing it for good.
[03:22:54] I was in a place in Florida, and everybody would come here. We actually threw him out.
[03:22:59] But no, I don't like the pictures of Bill Clinton being shown. I don't like the pictures of other people being shown.
[03:23:05] It's a terrible thing.
[03:23:07] I think Bill Clinton is a big boy.
[03:23:10] He can handle it.
[03:23:11] But you probably have pictures being exposed of other people
[03:23:15] that innocently met Jeffrey Epstein years ago.
[03:23:18] Many years ago, and they're, you know,
[03:23:21] highly respected bankers and lawyers and others.
[03:23:24] And they'll end up because of guys like Massie,
[03:23:28] who's a real lowlife, whose polls are down to about 9 percent,
[03:23:30] by the way, in the great state of Kentucky.
[03:23:33] If you look at Kentucky, Kentucky is such a great place,
[03:23:37] but I don't know, they've got a couple of people on there
[03:23:40] that are very strange in terms of leadership,
[03:23:43] but Massie's a loser, and he likes it,
[03:23:46] and that he works with the Democrats.
[03:23:48] He's just being used by the Democrats
[03:23:50] because what this whole thing is with Epstein
[03:23:53] is a way of trying to deflect from the tremendous success
[03:23:56] that the Republican Party has.
[03:23:58] Like, for instance, today we're building
[03:24:00] the biggest ships in the world,
[03:24:01] most powerful ships in the world,
[03:24:02] they're asking me questions about Jeffrey Epstein. I thought that was finished. I
[03:24:07] believe they gave over a hundred thousand pages of documents and there's
[03:24:12] tremendous speculations. It's an interesting question because a lot of
[03:24:16] people are very angry that pictures are being released of other people that
[03:24:20] really had nothing to do with Epstein, but they're in a picture with him
[03:24:22] because he was at a party and you ruin a reputation of somebody. So a lot of
[03:24:28] People are very angry that this continues.
[03:24:31] A lot of Republicans are angry.
[03:24:32] It's a big club and you ain't in it moment.
[03:24:35] No, a lot of people don't actually have photos
[03:24:38] with a prolific international pedophile sex trafficker
[03:24:42] who was potentially doing it all for blackmail
[03:24:45] of the elites at the behest of Mossad and CIA.
[03:24:48] So no, no, you're just talking about a very small group
[03:24:52] of people, Trump.
[03:24:53] Who the fuck?
[03:24:54] I hate when I accidentally slip and fall into a photo with international sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein
[03:25:03] 15 plus times shut the fuck up
[03:25:06] A lot of democrats are being caught up in the web like larry summers larry summers
[03:25:11] Was the head of harvard. He's now been forced to resign from every border zone and he was thrown off the harvard board
[03:25:19] Now he was you know, he was at Epstein's island a lot. I wasn't I never went there by the way
[03:25:24] What are you talking about?
[03:25:26] Why would I be duped?
[03:25:27] I never said it was real.
[03:25:28] What the fuck are you talking about?
[03:25:31] But instead of talking about the battleships
[03:25:33] or instead of talking about most favored nations drugs,
[03:25:36] we're bringing down drug prices like at a level that
[03:25:41] has never even been thought of by thousands.
[03:25:44] Think of it.
[03:25:45] By 1,000% by 1,200, 1,300, 1,400% in some cases,
[03:25:51] a drug that sells for $10, London is costing $130.
[03:25:58] He's low.
[03:25:58] He's low now.
[03:25:59] He's going to lower our foreign student prices.
[03:26:01] They're going to go up to $20.
[03:26:02] My kid.
[03:26:02] So they're going from $10 to $20, which is a doubling.
[03:26:06] It's a doubling.
[03:26:07] It's a lot.
[03:26:08] But it's a doubling.
[03:26:09] But we're going down to $20.
[03:26:11] So we're going down, if you can do your own math,
[03:26:14] but it's 2,000%, 3,000%.
[03:26:20] It's pretty amazing.
[03:26:21] By the way, another fucking, I called it moment for the, the, uh, Jeffrey Epstein stuff.
[03:26:26] If you recall, what did I say?
[03:26:28] The reason why I thought that like they, they will dangle Bill Clinton as red meat here,
[03:26:34] but then that might actually backfire on them is because of the principle of mutually
[03:26:39] assured destruction, mad, right?
[03:26:42] But this time mutually assured pedophile destruction.
[03:26:46] And basically Bill Clinton's response straight up was, amen, I was there and I saw you there
[03:26:53] too bitch.
[03:26:55] So let it all out.
[03:26:59] Let the facts do the talking.
[03:27:04] Senator, alright Senator, statement by Angel Urena, spokesman for former President Bill
[03:27:09] Clinton.
[03:27:10] The Epstein Files Transparency Act imposed a clear legal duty on the U.S. Department
[03:27:13] just to produce full and complete record to the public demands and deserves.
[03:27:19] However, whether the Department of Justice has released so far in the manner in which
[03:27:22] it did so makes one thing clear, someone or something is being protected.
[03:27:25] We don't know whom, what or why, but we do know this.
[03:27:29] We need no such protection.
[03:27:31] Accordingly, we call on President Trump to direct Attorney General Bonney to immediately release any remaining materials referring to,
[03:27:37] mentioning or containing a photograph of Bill Clinton.
[03:27:40] This includes, without limitation, any records that may exist and are subject to disclosure
[03:27:45] under the Act Public Law 11938 enacted November 19, 2025, including grand jury transcripts,
[03:27:52] interview notes, photographs, and findings by the United States Attorney for the Southern
[03:27:56] District of New York, as referenced under oath to Congress by President Trump's first-term
[03:28:00] Attorney General.
[03:28:02] Refusal LaDuceau will confirm the widespread suspicion.
[03:28:05] The Department of Justice's actions to date are not about transparency, but about
[03:28:08] insinuation using selective releases to imply wrongdoing about individuals who have already
[03:28:14] been repeatedly cleared by the very same department just over many years under presidents and
[03:28:17] attorneys general of both parties.
[03:28:22] Bubba's coming out.
[03:28:23] It's Bubba's revenge.
[03:28:24] Bubba said, there's photos of you sucking me off.
[03:28:31] Bubba said, hey, yo, you were in the cut.
[03:28:38] on mouth. Show the world how you sucked it. Return to the Bubba.
[03:28:48] Anyway, yeah, I was going to tell you about the CGI thing earlier. It was only released
[03:28:53] by DOJ because it was an attachment to a random email someone sent from the public.
[03:28:57] It's not from the DOJ. Nothing about this video makes sense. It is unclear while it
[03:29:00] was included in the DOJ files. Yeah, it turns out it was actually, it was actually
[03:29:05] just like a random document that, yeah, this, the context, the video comes from this email to the DOJ.
[03:29:17] Dear investigators, came across an appropriate video of FC suicide leaked by anonymous source,
[03:29:21] I attached it, but if your email strips attachments, you can also download it from
[03:29:24] from Google Drive here. Is this real?
[03:29:36] dog
[03:29:42] bro. Bro said is this real to this? Okay. To this to this to
[03:29:49] this to this to this
[03:29:54] But this is Game Boy Color Advanced level of graphics.
[03:30:09] Shit looks like bowling alley animations brother.
[03:30:15] Are you fucking kidding me?
[03:30:19] Like you hit a strike or now you flub it.
[03:30:22] I guess this would be when you, when you can't even get one, you know, and then this pops
[03:30:28] up at the bowling alley.
[03:30:36] Gameboy color, not gameboy color advance, man, shut up.
[03:30:41] Yeah, gutter ball animation pops up.
[03:30:47] This is artificial unintelligence.
[03:30:49] Yeah, it's from some fucking random YouTuber.
[03:30:51] This guy didn't do a deep investigation. Okay. He found a random YouTube video of a CGI hypothetical
[03:30:59] render of how Jeffery Epstein did definitely kill himself.
[03:31:02] How does the DOJ explain that? The DOJ absolutely has no credibility to investigate prosecuted
[03:31:09] employees of the BOP in SDMY. Well, at the same time, an SDFL attorney general, blah,
[03:31:15] blah, blah, blah, FedBop.com. Or alternatively, I'm also known as Q from theinvestigation.org.
[03:31:21] Busting government pedophiles is 1997. Epstein was a friend of a friend although never heard of him until after
[03:31:30] What
[03:31:38] Why is that even in the investigation like
[03:31:43] Why would that even be like
[03:31:45] was that passed around the prosecutors to laugh at this person? Like why is that, why
[03:31:53] was that even featured in the investigation at all? The separate, I assume, investigation
[03:31:59] into Jeffrey Epstein's death, you know? Like millions of people, I am certain, send a
[03:32:09] a lot of random emails to
[03:32:13] you know government emails that they find online or whatever
[03:32:17] records requests are wide reaching they received an email it landed in their
[03:32:20] inbox they had to document i guess
[03:32:23] that
[03:32:25] it's even funnier because they took it down by the way
[03:32:29] yet but the oji is a three-day render produced by a youtube of five years
[03:32:32] ago complete complete hoax and red herring
[03:32:35] to be clear this is a proof of the oji themselves producer planted it
[03:32:38] The most likely explanation is that some of them are in their Dragonite emails collected.
[03:32:42] They probably gained access to an inbox or digital conversation that includes this video
[03:32:44] as attachment.
[03:32:46] But also, they're so stupid.
[03:32:47] I don't think they could entirely put it past them regardless of whether this video came
[03:32:50] into DOJ custody.
[03:32:51] This is absolutely not a real video.
[03:32:52] I don't think anybody thought it was a real video.
[03:32:54] Who thought this was a real video?
[03:32:58] Was there, I mean, I guess there were some people who thought it was a real video,
[03:33:02] right?
[03:33:03] Like there were some people in this chat, which is really funny.
[03:33:06] Come on, guys.
[03:33:16] No, it was very clearly, shittily done CGI. It wasn't even good CGI.
[03:33:21] Look what happened in Colorado where they would occupy apartment houses,
[03:33:24] and he didn't want to do anything about it because he was scared.
[03:33:28] Any other questions?
[03:33:30] Yeah, go ahead, please.
[03:33:32] So, in response to the United States taking sanctioned oil from Venezuela,
[03:33:37] Colombian President Gustavo Petro criticized the United States by saying,
[03:33:41] well, the Southwest has stolen land and that it should be returned to Latin America.
[03:33:44] I just wanted to know what your response to that was.
[03:33:46] Well, he has to watch because, you know, he's got drug factories.
[03:33:49] They make cocaine in Colombia.
[03:33:52] And he's no friend of the United States.
[03:33:55] He's a very bad, very bad guy.
[03:33:57] And he's got to watch his ass because he makes cocaine
[03:34:01] sent it into the United States of America from Colombia.
[03:34:04] We love the Colombian people.
[03:34:07] I love the Colombian people.
[03:34:09] They're great people, energetic, smart, great.
[03:34:12] But their new leader is a troublemaker.
[03:34:15] And he better watch it.
[03:34:16] You better close up those cocaine factories.
[03:34:19] They have at least three major cocaine factories.
[03:34:22] We know where they are.
[03:34:23] You better close them up fast, yeah?
[03:34:26] By the way, it's made and sold into the United States.
[03:34:28] It comes through Mexico.
[03:34:30] Thank you, sir.
[03:34:30] You've named Governor Landry to be a new special envoy
[03:34:33] to Greenland.
[03:34:33] How do you see that role in tailing that?
[03:34:35] Is it still your intention that they let
[03:34:37] them come out of the US?
[03:34:38] Well, he called me.
[03:34:39] Louisiana, the Louisiana Purchase.
[03:34:41] He said, I'm Governor of Louisiana.
[03:34:43] And he said, I would love.
[03:34:44] I didn't call him.
[03:34:45] He called me.
[03:34:45] He's very proactive.
[03:34:48] He's a great guy.
[03:34:49] He's a deal guy.
[03:34:50] He's a deal-maker type guy.
[03:34:53] And we need it for national protection.
[03:34:55] We need Greenland for national protection.
[03:34:57] They have a very small population.
[03:35:00] I don't know they say Denmark, but Denmark is yeah
[03:35:02] I saw the Canadian version of the 60 minutes video that was censored in America, but
[03:35:07] Because it was still released in Canada, but it's ass. I'm sure there's a better version of it than like
[03:35:13] One that was filmed on a television on a on a Canadian television with bisexual lighting in the background
[03:35:19] You know what I mean?
[03:35:21] Not for minerals we had so we have so many sites for minerals and oil and everything
[03:35:26] We have more oil than any other country in the world
[03:35:28] We need Greenland for national security and if you take a look at Greenland you look up and down the coast
[03:35:34] You have Russian and Chinese ships all over the place
[03:35:37] We need it for national security. We have to have it and he wanted to
[03:35:44] Marko today a special envoy to Greenland Greenland's a big deal
[03:35:49] Can you give an update on the talks that took place this past weekend, and could a trilateral
[03:35:55] discussion of sort be the next step for Ukrainian U.S. and Russian delicacy?
[03:35:59] So the talks in Ukraine, Russia going along, they lost, as you know, 27,000 soldiers last
[03:36:04] month, mostly soldiers, some people in Kiev, et cetera, but mostly soldiers.
[03:36:11] And the talks are going along, and I say, you know, there's tremendous hatred
[03:36:15] between these two leaders, between President Putin,
[03:36:19] President Zelensky, tremendous hatred.
[03:36:21] And I hope we can get it done.
[03:36:22] We are talking, talks are going okay.
[03:36:25] But, you know, I've solved eight wars,
[03:36:29] and Thailand is starting to ship up, you know,
[03:36:31] they started with Cambodia, they started up again.
[03:36:34] But I think, Marko, we have that in pretty good shape
[03:36:36] to have that stopped.
[03:36:38] So we stopped eight wars,
[03:36:40] and I thought this would be in the middle of the pack,
[03:36:42] but maybe easier in the middle of the pack.
[03:36:45] But there's a lot of hatred between those two people,
[03:36:47] and when there's hatred, there's, you know.
[03:36:49] But we stopped one war 38 years, one war 35 years,
[03:36:53] one war was going on for 32 years.
[03:36:56] And we stopped, think of it,
[03:36:59] we stopped a potential nuclear war
[03:37:01] between Pakistan and India.
[03:37:03] And the head of Pakistan, highly respected, General,
[03:37:09] he's a field marshal.
[03:37:11] And also the Prime Minister of Pakistan said,
[03:37:14] President Trump saved 10 million lives, maybe more,
[03:37:17] by getting that war.
[03:37:18] You know, eight planes were shot down.
[03:37:20] That war was starting to rage.
[03:37:22] And he actually said the other day
[03:37:23] that President Trump saved 10 million lives, maybe more.
[03:37:28] So we solved all these wars.
[03:37:29] The only one I haven't solved yet is Russia, Ukraine.
[03:37:33] I was wondering before the Christmas Day deadline,
[03:37:35] with Russia and Ukraine,
[03:37:37] and have you spoken with Putin or Zelensky
[03:37:39] or planned to push the deal?
[03:37:40] I'll do whatever I have to do.
[03:37:41] I mean, I'd like to see it stop.
[03:37:43] Look, we don't lose any money of that war anymore.
[03:37:45] You know, Biden gave $350 billion,
[03:37:47] and who knows what happened to it?
[03:37:49] We now sell missiles, planes,
[03:37:52] all of the best military equipment.
[03:37:53] We sell it to NATO.
[03:37:55] We got NATO to go from 2 percent GDP to 5 percent.
[03:37:58] Nobody believed that to this day.
[03:38:00] Nobody's going to write that, but nobody believed it.
[03:38:03] And they take that money,
[03:38:04] and they pay it to the United States for weapons.
[03:38:07] So we sell weapons to NATO.
[03:38:09] We sell, full price.
[03:38:11] We sell weapons to NATO, and NATO takes those weapons
[03:38:14] and probably distributes them,
[03:38:16] but gives a lot of them to Ukraine.
[03:38:19] So we're not – we don't lose any money
[03:38:22] like we did with Biden.
[03:38:23] He was spending money like a fool.
[03:38:25] He was a fool.
[03:38:27] What he did to our country is so horrible.
[03:38:29] But he gave $350 billion between cash.
[03:38:32] He gave a lot of cash.
[03:38:33] $350 between cash and weapons.
[03:38:36] You remember, at the beginning of that whole thing,
[03:38:38] I gave them javelins,
[03:38:40] that javelins are the anti-tank busters.
[03:38:43] And President Obama at the time gave them sheets.
[03:38:47] Blankets.
[03:38:48] I gave them javelins.
[03:38:49] They gave them sheets.
[03:38:50] But you know, the bottom line is time for it.
[03:38:53] I think they're all tired of that war.
[03:38:55] Everyone's tired of that war.
[03:38:57] It's got to stop.
[03:38:58] Yeah, please.
[03:38:58] You went down the pursuit of an sanctioned oil tanker
[03:39:01] yesterday.
[03:39:02] Are you able to share what became of that tanker?
[03:39:04] Was the US able to see that?
[03:39:05] No, it's moving along, and we'll end up getting it.
[03:39:08] were actually pursuing it. Can you imagine? Because it came from the wrong location. It
[03:39:13] came out of Venezuela. And it was sanctioned. Yeah, please.
[03:39:17] What goal in Venezuela to force Maduro from power?
[03:39:20] Well, I think it probably would. I can't tell it. That's up to him what he wants to
[03:39:24] do. I think it'd be smart for him to do that. But again, we're going to find out.
[03:39:29] Look, Venezuela, you're terrible.
[03:39:32] It was not sanctioned, but who gives a fuck if it is even sanctioned? What do you mean?
[03:39:37] what are we doing? We're just deciding that saying a Venezuelan tanker is sanctioned and
[03:39:45] then seizing it is literally just piracy with one additional step. You just said, nah, it's
[03:39:52] mine. It's technically no different than Donald Trump saying all of Venezuelan oil belongs
[03:39:56] to us. Venezuela stole this oil from us by having it, okay, as their natural reserves.
[03:40:02] That's all this is it's no different. It is just simply
[03:40:07] We get to do it because I say so
[03:40:10] Okay, I need you to understand that church companies
[03:40:13] So what I'm asking for in health care is very simple. Obamacare is a disaster
[03:40:17] I call it the unaffordable care act unaffordable as opposed to if it's unaffordable
[03:40:22] They can have a tremendous increase in premiums, which is Obamacare, which is them the Democrats fall
[03:40:27] They'll try and blame Republic has nothing to do with us. It's a Democrats fall
[03:40:31] So what I want to do is we spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year that go to insurance companies.
[03:40:38] Shouldn't the U.S. be allowed to do that?
[03:40:39] I want that money to go to the people and let the people buy their own healthcare.
[03:40:45] And to everybody.
[03:40:46] Okay, you're a big man.
[03:40:47] That's become our issue.
[03:40:49] Now, before I do that, I'll meet with the insurance companies, just as I met with the drug companies.
[03:40:55] As you know, we're meeting with four other drug companies, Johnson and Johnson, but they've all agreed.
[03:41:00] We're meeting with them this week.
[03:41:02] It's coming up.
[03:41:02] It'll be a similar meeting.
[03:41:03] I agree.
[03:41:04] Why is he speeding so much?
[03:41:05] But nobody would have thought the drug companies were
[03:41:07] going to do what they did.
[03:41:07] Were they giving away free drugs?
[03:41:09] And they did.
[03:41:10] They've been so great, OK?
[03:41:13] And we have most favorite nations.
[03:41:16] Nobody thought that was possible.
[03:41:18] I don't think any other president
[03:41:20] ever tried to get it because they never thought they could.
[03:41:23] But with respect to the insurance companies,
[03:41:26] I want to meet.
[03:41:26] There's essentially 14 of them, 10 big.
[03:41:29] But there's a total of 14, pretty much,
[03:41:31] oh, pretty big.
[03:41:32] And I want to meet with them, and I want to say,
[03:41:34] I want you to cut your rates way down, way, way down.
[03:41:37] And maybe, if they do that, we'll be able to not cut them out.
[03:41:41] We'll be able to continue to deal with them,
[03:41:44] which is probably a little easier process.
[03:41:46] I think the best process is pay the money directly
[03:41:49] to the people, let them buy their own health care.
[03:41:52] But I'm going to meet with them the first week back.
[03:41:55] I do it now, but they're trying
[03:41:57] to come up with a schedule.
[03:41:58] They want to meet badly, they've told me,
[03:42:01] but they want to come up with a schedule.
[03:42:03] I said, make it a good schedule.
[03:42:05] Your rates have to come way down.
[03:42:07] We're also going to meet with other insurance companies
[03:42:10] because undivided insurance rates
[03:42:11] have gone through the roof.
[03:42:13] Auto insurance, home insurance.
[03:42:15] I mean, insurance companies are making far more
[03:42:19] than they're entitled to make.
[03:42:21] So we're going to be doing that.
[03:42:22] But just, that's right, baby.
[03:42:26] Price check's coming.
[03:42:28] the first few days back in Washington. Can you imagine if we used any of this like productive
[03:42:33] any of this energy in a productive direction? You know.
[03:42:38] Thank you. Nope. Of course not.
[03:42:41] Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
[03:42:54] Is this kind of big?
[03:42:55] I mean, if it fucking happens, yeah.
[03:42:58] I just don't, I have no confidence in this administration.
[03:43:04] I have no confidence in this administration
[03:43:06] actually forcing private profiteers to do anything
[03:43:09] against the profit incentive.
[03:43:13] I don't think, I don't think he's gonna be able to do that.
[03:43:17] I don't think he has any intention to do that.
[03:43:20] That's just not something that Trump does.
[03:43:23] The song uncontrolled drooling is a symptom of advanced dementia.
[03:43:26] I mean, fuck it.
[03:43:29] I'll believe it.
[03:43:30] I don't know.
[03:43:39] What was the point of that?
[03:43:40] He just announced that he's doing this.
[03:43:43] First look at the US Navy's Trump-class cruiser battleship.
[03:43:46] Initial renders include 1x large VLS for hypersonic weapons, 1x 4 railgun, 227 millimeter
[03:43:53] debt goes, multiple laser weapons, emit ships, and at least two conventional VLS arrays.
[03:43:59] DoD will spend, uh, Bonson Brays is DoD will spend 50 billion on it and then abandon the
[03:44:06] program in 10 years.
[03:44:10] I think they're getting like outmitted by, uh, the, the Chinese naval production pretty
[03:44:16] hard and that pissed Donald Trump off.
[03:44:19] And then someone was in his ear being like, hey, remember when like naval vessels had battle ships?
[03:44:27] And they focused on making sure that their large ships weren't just attacking with planes and stuff, but instead were attacking with like cannons.
[03:44:38] And he was like, I like that. Let's do it. Let's bring it back. Which I agree with.
[03:44:49] The current moderations are trashed to be fair. I mean, I don't, I don't have any naval autism
[03:44:55] so I can't speak on this issue at all. Like I said, the extent of, the extent of my, my
[03:45:02] interest in this begins and ends at old school naval battles are way cooler. You know?
[03:45:15] I think they just, but I think they became obsolete. If I'm not mistaken, like I, I think
[03:45:22] what ended up happening was like planes basically and, and, and carriers made this style of naval
[03:45:32] conflict obsolete because much harder to line up and, and, you know, attack with big guns
[03:45:41] than it is to just do super precise targeting with advanced maneuverability from a fucking
[03:45:50] mile away, right? In a naval carrier that is the size of a fucking island powered by
[03:45:58] by nukes that just send a shit ton of planes.
[03:46:07] Right?
[03:46:19] Is mostly old and sucks almost out in a submarine.
[03:46:21] So when our screen looked like the matrix intro,
[03:46:26] modern battles would mostly have vertical launch systems
[03:46:28] missiles yeah that's the other thing like they don't use like direct uh cannons and shit right
[03:46:33] they use like they they they deploy missiles so he's trying to go back to this like old school
[03:46:40] style of naval warfare and i suspect there's a reason for a while look again not my expertise at all
[03:46:49] simply simple and this is speculation so maybe i'm totally wrong
[03:46:54] But yeah, modern ships use missiles and active defenses like the CIWS because armor and guns
[03:47:01] aren't effective.
[03:47:02] Any modern missile from a ship or a plane is going to be impossible to armor against.
[03:47:12] Experts say it's a waste of resources.
[03:47:13] Jordan replaced them on an economic scale.
[03:47:15] Just look at Ukraine.
[03:47:16] Yeah, I was going to say, if you want to change like naval warfare in a probably
[03:47:24] more productive way. You probably would use drone swarms, no? Like I suspect that the boat
[03:47:34] would have one of those like Chinese style, well, I guess I've seen it in Ukraine too,
[03:47:38] where it's like, it just literally deploys like a swarm of drones. It's like a,
[03:47:43] it's like a packet of drones that just hit the target. Much cheaper,
[03:47:48] cost effective, you know, deploying drones from like a submarine or something is probably
[03:47:59] better, right? Or at least like as a as a much more cost effective measure. Now the Ukraine
[03:48:08] battlefield drones won't do shit the ships honestly. I mean, I'm sure they're working
[03:48:11] on trying to do that, trying to create a drone that you can just like deploy, not just a
[03:48:21] drone that flies either by the way, but a drone that you can deploy from a drone submarine,
[03:48:29] right?
[03:48:30] I know for a fact that there is already, I forget what it's called, but I know that
[03:48:34] they are working on automated like UAV style submarines that don't have actual people in them.
[03:48:45] That already does exist.
[03:48:55] Military planners don't agree that disposable drone warfare is the future may believe that
[03:48:58] drone countermeasures will quickly match them. It's betting about whether defense or offensive
[03:49:02] tech will advance faster in the coming years. They are called UUVs and they are in well
[03:49:14] development and use. Also, the thing about drone warfare and drone countermeasures is
[03:49:27] that it is incredibly cost-effective and also very easy to tweak. They do those
[03:49:36] like weird guns that aren't really guns but just like pump out waves or whatever
[03:49:40] that just like disable drones and then they started using fiber optic wiring
[03:49:44] to make sure that the drones did not get impacted by any sort of like EMP or
[03:49:50] whatever it's called electromagnetic waves or whatever. And then and now
[03:49:54] they just have like a like a like a mini fiber because you can't you can't jam a fiber optic
[03:50:02] cable connected to the drone operator but the electromagnetic pulse but then the fiber optic
[03:50:11] cable also creates a separate issue because you can just cut it and then there's also miles and
[03:50:18] miles of fiber everywhere. I've seen the photos. It looks ridiculous. Yeah, a clash report posted it.
[03:50:26] I saw this. Yeah.
[03:50:31] Lehman Ukraine is fully covered in a web of fiber optic cables left by Ukrainian and Russian drone
[03:50:34] operators.
[03:50:41] Oh, Japan is working on railguns for their battleships.
[03:50:57] They are a few years out due to power demands, but they're definitely working that way, which
[03:51:01] most of the world is pretty far behind.
[03:51:04] have tested out rail guns as well they have they have those projects I remember
[03:51:09] they're working on landmines that cut fiber after a drone flies over it now to
[03:51:12] see there you go
[03:51:20] fiber optic war before civilian infrastructure
[03:51:34] Yeah.
[03:51:44] Almost everyone of those lines ended with a dead person. Yeah.
[03:51:52] This is why we can't get fucking. We can't get fiber in Los Angeles, by the way.
[03:51:58] that's what is being put to their shit railguns literally tear themselves apart when they fire
[03:52:07] more taxpayer dollars wasted I mean hey listen maybe they'll figure out a way where it doesn't
[03:52:11] do that I don't know I'm not a scientist man I don't fucking know alright let's get to the
[03:52:18] Epstein files and then we'll get back to JD vans and then we'll talk about obviously
[03:52:23] CBS News. And what they're doing.
[03:52:28] Pushing the Justice Department to release all the remaining files related
[03:52:30] to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Many documents were made public
[03:52:33] on Friday ahead of the deadline. Many more were held back and a lot of
[03:52:37] information was blacked out. The Justice Department says that was to protect
[03:52:41] the innocent. Scott McFarland has angry reaction from lawmakers who say
[03:52:45] the DOJ didn't obey the law.
[03:52:48] A release of tens of thousands of pages from the Jeffrey Epstein case
[03:52:52] files hasn't done much to dampen the controversy. The records include images of celebrities,
[03:52:58] several showing former President Bill Clinton. Also released travel logs and Epstein contact
[03:53:04] lists that include then private citizen Donald Trump's name. An Epstein phone message with Trump's
[03:53:09] name too, though none indicate any wrongdoing from the president. But the Justice Department's
[03:53:14] release was incomplete and laced with redactions. Annie Farmer is an Epstein survivor.
[03:53:20] You should avoid that to be as reporting as a source in your news coverage, C.C. Tomasius.
[03:53:27] What is this? What are you guys saying?
[03:53:34] Joe her sister, another survivor, notified the FBI about Epstein back in 1996.
[03:53:40] Fucking classic megafaunics moment, dude. There's an awful lot of redactions.
[03:53:45] unawful lot. You don't seem surprised by that.
[03:53:49] I think we have all prepared ourselves for what redactions might look like and
[03:53:53] that they could be used to continue to protect, to protect predators and
[03:53:57] protect other people in power.
[03:53:59] At least 15 files initially released were taken down without explanation
[03:54:04] according to a CBS News review including an image that appeared to show
[03:54:08] Trump in at least one photo. The Justice Department later clarified that
[03:54:12] that image was flagged for additional review and then reposted after it was determined there was no evidence
[03:54:17] Epstein survivors were in the image the deputy attorney general claims it's all to protect survivors not Trump
[03:54:24] You're talking about a million or so pages of documents virtually all of them
[03:54:30] Contained victim information. This was a slap in the face of survivors
[03:54:34] Congressman Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey who sponsored the bipartisan
[03:54:38] legislation requiring the release of the full case files by last Friday said
[03:54:43] they consider legal action or impeachment proceedings against the
[03:54:46] attorney general. They're flouting the spirit and the letter of the law.
[03:54:51] The Department of Justice is also working on removing some redactions,
[03:54:56] but we'll have to explain to Congress within the within the next two
[03:54:58] weeks why it's redacting information and what it is holding back. The law
[03:55:03] allows redactions in certain specific instances such as protecting the
[03:55:06] identities of survivors. The Justice Department says it is not ruling out
[03:55:11] bringing additional charges against anyone else involved in Epstein's
[03:55:15] crimes, Vlad. All right, Scott. Thank you very much. So far, there have been few
[03:55:19] surprises in the tens of thousands of documents related to the case against
[03:55:24] convicted sex offender and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his
[03:55:28] partner convicted child sex offender, Elaine Maxwell. The Justice
[03:55:32] department says that 1200 names identified as victims or their relatives were redacted
[03:55:37] along with materials that could result in their.
[03:55:40] What?
[03:55:41] It makes to ask this of a senator but not for your media coverage, wait, what?
[03:55:47] You already know what happened.
[03:55:48] Is that a playing dumb out of avoidance?
[03:55:49] The correct course now should be a total bull cut of CBS properties by your entire
[03:55:52] caucus and vow to overhaul media ownership rules when this admin is over.
[03:55:56] The CBS thing does merit an explanation right away.
[03:55:58] It's a pretty big deal.
[03:55:59] I don't know if you know this, but I do fucking media criticism, okay?
[03:56:08] So of course I'm gonna be fucking looking at CBS coverage as a matter of fact later
[03:56:14] We're gonna be literally watching the CBS 60 minutes video that was uploaded the daily motion because they accidentally released it in Canada I
[03:56:24] Watch Fox News all the time. They are lying all the time
[03:56:27] time. Okay. Do better. I know. I don't even think people are, I don't even think people
[03:56:49] are personally demanding that I boycott CBS news or anything like that. I think someone
[03:56:53] just like jokingly mentioned or something. Identification. Will the release of the documents
[03:56:59] satisfy Congress and the political forces who lobbied for their disclosure? And much more
[03:57:04] importantly, will it satisfy the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein and their families?
[03:57:12] The two House members who pushed their colleagues into passing the bill to release these documents,
[03:57:17] Republican Thomas Massie, who's in Garrison, Kentucky, and Democrat Ro Khanna, who joins
[03:57:21] us this morning from Palo Alto, California. It's good to have both of you here. I want
[03:57:27] to start with you, Congressman Massey, because in these past 48 hours, we have seen the Justice
[03:57:32] Department acknowledge it's an incomplete release, but they have put out more than
[03:57:37] 13,000 files. They say more will come. This isn't everything you asked for just
[03:57:43] yet, but would you acknowledge that they are complying with the spirit? If not,
[03:57:48] the intent of your law.
[03:57:51] No, they're flouting the spirit and the letter of the law.
[03:57:54] It's very troubling, the posture that they've taken.
[03:57:58] And I won't be satisfied until the survivors are satisfied.
[03:58:01] You know, I said in the hours leading up to this release
[03:58:04] that we will know if they are complying,
[03:58:07] if they implicate any of the other criminals that
[03:58:10] are involved and the suspects that are involved.
[03:58:12] The witnesses, the victims themselves,
[03:58:16] have given to the FBI.
[03:58:18] and they've never been mentioned.
[03:58:20] Well, there are some disclosures in here
[03:58:24] that seem new Congressman Conna.
[03:58:26] The documents confirmed that the FBI received.
[03:58:28] I mean, how many times have they made it clear?
[03:58:30] Yes, there are some disclosures
[03:58:33] that are seemingly new, certainly,
[03:58:37] but the fucking Jeffrey Epstein act,
[03:58:41] like the files release act
[03:58:42] was not about give us a little bit
[03:58:45] can totally manipulate what information you are releasing, that you're totally redacting
[03:58:55] important political figures out of, for no reason.
[03:58:59] No, it was all of it.
[03:59:02] All of it.
[03:59:03] As long as it did not showcase victims, as long as it did not showcase identifiable
[03:59:10] victims or identifiable traits of victims and things like that, release the files in
[03:59:19] its entirety.
[03:59:22] I do like that Thomas Massey and Ro Khanna are doing something that I used to talk about
[03:59:26] all the time that there's a tradition in American politics in Congress of people who
[03:59:36] who are very one note, like that oftentimes get called like cranks, right?
[03:59:42] Mike Gravel was a great example of this, right?
[03:59:45] There are, there have always been like anti-NATSEC, Congress persons, for example, that will
[03:59:53] do their very best to uncover whatever classified information exists, whether it be like, you
[04:00:00] know, the JFK assassination or whatever, like there, there's always been people like
[04:00:04] that.
[04:00:05] Now, unfortunately, I would say Gravel Institute is a crank, no, no, no.
[04:00:15] I'm not saying these guys are always cranks, okay?
[04:00:18] I'm not saying, but they're regarded as cranks, but sometimes even people who are regarded
[04:00:26] But his cranks in American Congress are very good at pushing for certain committees and
[04:00:36] uncovering truth and what Ro Khanna and, and what's his face?
[04:00:42] I can't believe I'm forgetting.
[04:00:43] Thomas Massey are doing right now is basically recreating that age old tradition.
[04:00:51] I'm not saying they're cranks at all.
[04:00:54] But I'm simply saying is that there used to be brave politicians who would go out to bat.
[04:01:06] And sometimes they even are magnets for cranks, like MTG doing this is a great example of this.
[04:01:16] And I personally love it.
[04:01:20] I love seeing it.
[04:01:22] I'm glad that it's happening.
[04:01:23] I'm glad that there are people who are stepping up and not relenting and pushing for it.
[04:01:31] Very clearly, they recognize that there is a lot of appetite from the public for this.
[04:01:38] It's understandable.
[04:01:42] And it's good that they're pushing on it.
[04:01:44] You need to complain about Jeffrey Epstein back in 1996, but the woman whose name
[04:01:49] is Maria Farmer who made that complaint said federal officials failed to follow up. She
[04:01:54] said the disclosure makes her feel redeemed. And that this was one of the best days of
[04:01:59] her life to see these documents made public. What action do you want taken around a case
[04:02:05] like this? That was the single most important disclosure of what we got. I know Maria's
[04:02:12] sister she sounded like dude we used to have shit like the church committee okay
[04:02:19] back in the day we don't we haven't had that at all kaya out of the other nope
[04:02:26] nope oh my god we haven't had shit like that in such a long time like we
[04:02:33] We haven't had politicians that basically set up.
[04:02:37] Kaya, please.
[04:02:38] Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, please.
[04:02:55] What the hell is the crank?
[04:02:57] Kaya's doing IT work again.
[04:02:59] Yeah, she's going in the wires.
[04:03:01] Let her end the stream, okay.
[04:03:10] She's trying to keep you on your toes.
[04:03:12] She's trying to lay on my toe, specifically the fucked up leg.
[04:03:17] Anyway, yeah, she craves the electricity.
[04:03:28] She craves it.
[04:03:29] alarm in nineteen ninety-six she complained to be a woman instead of the
[04:03:34] fb was so connected with law enforcement and powerful politicians the fb i did
[04:03:38] nothing for a decade frankly she deserves compensation she deserves an
[04:03:42] explanation but the broader point is blanche was on this morning saying the
[04:03:46] messy and i have a problem that it's taking too long that's not the problem
[04:03:50] the problem is this was a slap in the face of survivors what do they want they
[04:03:55] want to know who are the rich and powerful men who visited fb's rape
[04:03:58] violent and covered up the abuse. And the key documents that our law basically said needed
[04:04:03] to be released, the 60 count indictment that actually implicates a lot of these people,
[04:04:10] and the prosecution memo were not released. It's not about the timeline, it's about the
[04:04:14] selective concealment.
[04:04:16] Well, yet, right? The deputy attorney general said there are more disclosures that
[04:04:21] will be made. You believe that they will not release that particular part? I mean,
[04:04:26] You did give them some leeway for redactions.
[04:04:31] Well first of all, the redactions were excessive and even Harvard law professionals who have
[04:04:36] looked at that have said, you can't redact internal communications, you can't redact
[04:04:41] workforce product, and the courts are going to find that these were excessive.
[04:04:45] But my point, and I'm sure Congressman Massey can elaborate, is that we want the files
[04:04:51] out.
[04:04:52] that if our sounding the alarm on what is missing
[04:04:55] uh... is going to help them get those files out
[04:04:58] but that this shouldn't be a big document up there's a pretty simple point
[04:05:02] who rape these young girls who covered it up and why are they yeah i scoop cbs
[04:05:07] uh... with my rocona interview which is crazy when you think about it
[04:05:16] cbcb is trying to get my guests on
[04:05:19] after i got them
[04:05:21] fine you know
[04:05:23] falling off i guess getting away with it
[04:05:25] so you're saying specific things regarding the indictment congress and
[04:05:28] massy i saw in a video that you posted you had a very specific benchmark of
[04:05:33] success here
[04:05:34] you said you know there are at least twenty men accused of sex crimes known
[04:05:39] to the fb i
[04:05:40] how do you know that number and and do you know those names
[04:05:43] he already said it
[04:05:46] he knows the number because he spoke to the victims of the victims lawyers
[04:05:51] Yeah, the survivors lawyers have told me those numbers and they've described their professions
[04:05:57] in general, but they've only given me one of those names and I mentioned that in the
[04:06:02] Congressional hearing, Jess Staley.
[04:06:04] So I searched these documents, I didn't see Jess Staley's name, nor did I see 19 other
[04:06:09] names.
[04:06:10] And here's why we shouldn't be optimistic that Blanche or Bondi are going to release
[04:06:14] these things.
[04:06:15] They sent a six-page...
[04:06:16] The church committee, formerly the United States Senate Select Committee, decided
[04:06:20] governmental operations with respect to intelligence activities was a U.S. Senate Select Committee in 1975 that investigated abuses by the central intelligence
[04:06:28] the Central Intelligence Agency, also known as CIA, the National Security Agency, also known as the NSA, the Federal Bureau of Investigations, also known as the FBI
[04:06:40] and in the internal revenue service, also known as the IRS.
[04:06:44] It was chaired by Idaho Senator Frank Church,
[04:06:47] Democrat from Idaho.
[04:06:50] And the committee was a part of a series of investigations
[04:06:52] into intelligence abuses in 1975.
[04:06:55] Some of the biggest revelations was MKUltra, COINTELPRO,
[04:06:58] which involved the surveillance and infiltration
[04:07:00] of left-wing groups in the country,
[04:07:06] American civil rights organizations and things like that.
[04:07:10] MKUltra is an operation that may or may not have been responsible for many of the notorious serial killers and even mass murderers of different varieties of drugging operation.
[04:07:30] Anyway, this is like, this was, you know, there's, there were real ones back in the day, okay?
[04:07:45] And I would say that, I would say that Thomas Massiam Ro Khanna are carrying on that tradition.
[04:07:54] Yeah, the unabomber.
[04:07:56] memo to Congress and said they cited pre-existing laws as reasons that they weren't going to
[04:08:02] follow our law.
[04:08:04] For instance, our law requires them to release information regardless of embarrassment, but
[04:08:08] they are trying to say that a previous law prevails when it doesn't.
[04:08:12] Common Sense says it doesn't.
[04:08:13] The Privacy Act doesn't protect them from that.
[04:08:16] And then also, as Roe said, internal communications, they're using a FOIA standard that doesn't
[04:08:22] apply because our law already says they have to give us internal communications.
[04:08:27] In terms of the gentleman there you referenced as accused, I mean, being in the document
[04:08:32] doesn't necessarily prove criminal behavior, right?
[04:08:37] And in terms of the redactions, what the deputy attorney general said is that they
[04:08:43] were abiding by your law and also a judge in New York had ordered them to listen
[04:08:48] to victims.
[04:08:49] They're claiming that information that they had initially even published Friday, they had
[04:08:53] to pull down because they were trying to protect victims.
[04:08:58] You don't sound convinced that they are abiding by this intent.
[04:09:05] No, they are not abiding.
[04:09:08] And all three judges who released the grand jury material said that our law trumps the
[04:09:14] prior law.
[04:09:15] That's just common sense.
[04:09:16] school 101 yet Todd Blanche is using a different theory that wouldn't survive first contact
[04:09:22] with any court, which is he's trying to say that prior laws override our law. That's not
[04:09:27] the way this works.
[04:09:28] Okay. What are you going to do about it to force them to comply? I mean, can you do
[04:09:34] anything?
[04:09:35] Oh, absolutely. Look, people have talked about, and by the way, Todd Blanche is the
[04:09:41] face of this but it's really the attorney general's office, Pam Bondi, who is responsible.
[04:09:47] And there are several ways to get at this. Some take longer, some are shorter. The quickest
[04:09:52] way, and I think, uh, no sec-
[04:09:54] Yeah, SEAM's DOJ is now forced to argue that compliance with the Epstein Files Transparency
[04:09:58] Act actually results in less transparency than if the DOJ had voluntarily released
[04:10:02] the files as they once promised. On the left, an Epstein document, the DOJ released
[04:10:06] in 2024 with Trump's name and others. It's still up on the DOJ website. On
[04:10:10] On the right, the same document as DOJ redacted it in response to the Epstein Falls Transparency
[04:10:15] Act.
[04:10:18] I wonder why.
[04:10:22] I wonder what happened here.
[04:10:31] Sergey Brin, when it was re-released, was redacted, okay?
[04:10:42] Sergey Brin.
[04:10:47] Casual friendship with Donald Trump.
[04:10:50] This was in the original trunche, it was unredacted or in 2024 when they released it,
[04:10:55] it was unredacted.
[04:10:56] Trump's name is also redacted in this.
[04:10:58] And then it was re redacted.
[04:11:01] It was entirely redacted and then they re released it unredacted, by the way, because
[04:11:06] I saw the original files.
[04:11:09] I saw the original files that, that, that we looked at this exact page on the stream.
[04:11:18] So they, they literally redacted it and then unredacted it.
[04:11:25] Okay.
[04:11:27] God is begging to unfortunately get to become victim to the chair. That's what she wants. What are you doing? No, no, lady. No, lady. You can't stand behind me like that. I'm going to step on you on accident. No, don't be cute. Don't try. Don't like your tail at me.
[04:11:55] They didn't even redact it correctly.
[04:11:59] Yeah, I read this entire paragraph, but I guess they fucking redacted it again.
[04:12:06] And this, uh, no, no, oh my God.
[04:12:10] I hear it's not, it's not play time.
[04:12:14] It's not played to, oh my God.
[04:12:17] She wants puppies.
[04:12:21] What are we doing right now?
[04:12:22] What are we doing?
[04:12:23] Daddy's working.
[04:12:25] Daddy can't give you up. He's right now. I'm sorry
[04:12:35] What is this you're putting what is this the bigger pictures you're being lied to a mislead like a dumbass you're clapping for something that hasn't happened what
[04:12:42] useless build-in
[04:12:47] Makes you see is gooning to you right now wait why?
[04:12:55] No move, move, Kaya, you're, you're laying on my fucked up leg, Kaya, uh-uh, get out
[04:13:06] of there, please, no, move, Kaya, go, go back over there, go somewhere else.
[04:13:17] is Matt at Ro Conifer has passed? I don't know why she specifically wants to stay on
[04:13:28] my left side and like lean on to my bad leg as though this is going to heal my leg. She
[04:13:45] She wants to heal you. Why, what, putting 120 pounds of force directly on top of my fucked-up
[04:13:51] ankle? I don't think that's gonna work. Revenge for ignoring her. She smells the rot. Okay.
[04:14:11] combo crits. Yeah, she's she's getting revenge for all the abuse. Okay, go, go, go, oh, oh,
[04:14:37] she knows something is wrong. She's alerting you
[04:14:40] Okay, no, she's not.
[04:14:54] It's a vicious way to get justice for these victims is to bring inherent contempt against Pam Bondi.
[04:15:01] And that doesn't require going through the courts.
[04:15:04] And give her, and basically, Ro Khanna and I
[04:15:07] are talking about and drafting that right now.
[04:15:11] OK, well, I mean, on another network this morning,
[04:15:13] Democratic Senator Tim Kaine said, impeachment or contempt,
[04:15:17] it is premature, Congressman Khanna.
[04:15:21] And the deputy attorney general said, bring it on.
[04:15:24] They don't seem to be taking this very seriously.
[04:15:26] And if you just don't have the math in the Senate,
[04:15:28] including, at least now, this Democratic senator not being convinced.
[04:15:32] Doesn't that sort of show that you're at the limit of pressure?
[04:15:36] No, we only need the House for inherent contempt, and we're building a bipartisan coalition,
[04:15:43] and it would find Pam Bondi for every day that she's not releasing these documents.
[04:15:48] I'll tell you why I've talked to the survivors, why this is such a slap in the face.
[04:15:52] One of the survivors said they released her name accidentally, but they still have
[04:15:56] not release the FBI file about the people who abused her at her request.
[04:16:02] And the problem here is that there are rich and powerful people.
[04:16:05] We all know this.
[04:16:06] There are 1,200 victims.
[04:16:07] They're rich and powerful people who either engaged in this abuse, covered it up, or
[04:16:11] were on this island.
[04:16:12] And what the American people want to know is, who are these people?
[04:16:15] And instead of holding them accountable, Pam Bondi is breaking the law.
[04:16:19] And this is the corrupt system, the Epstein class that people are sick of.
[04:16:23] So I believe we're going to get bipartisan support in holding her accountable and a committee
[04:16:27] of Congress should determine whether these redactions are justified or not.
[04:16:32] Sometime in January when you all come back, I assume that that'll happen.
[04:16:36] I want to ask you, though, Congressman Kana, there have been images released in the past
[04:16:42] 48 hours.
[04:16:43] Some of them include former President Bill Clinton.
[04:16:46] There's at least one image of Donald Trump.
[04:16:48] I should say neither man has been accused of any wrongdoing related to Epstein, though they
[04:16:53] clearly knew him.
[04:16:55] But since Friday's publication, we're showing the image here now.
[04:17:00] One of the pictures was pulled down.
[04:17:02] There were 15 images total that were then redacted from the DOJ website.
[04:17:07] And it's kind of hard to see, but it's an open drawer with a photo of President Trump.
[04:17:15] Why do you think that was pulled down?
[04:17:18] Because the deputy attorney general says this was victims saying that their privacy or somehow
[04:17:25] their integrity was being compromised by having that image published.
[04:17:30] Well, I'm less concerned about that photo.
[04:17:33] I don't know the facts.
[04:17:34] My concern is the major documents that we know are out there that haven't been
[04:17:38] released.
[04:17:39] 60 count endowment that shows massive financial fraud and foreign interference, the prosecution
[04:17:46] memo.
[04:17:47] And look, they put out these Bill Clinton pictures, well, they're allegations that they're
[04:17:53] foreign governments that potentially were involved.
[04:17:55] And that all needs to come out.
[04:17:57] And it needs to come out in the indictments, it needs to come out in the prosecution
[04:18:00] memos.
[04:18:01] But the reality is they put out these pictures from Bill Clinton, put it all out, but
[04:18:05] don't distract from the fundamental issue, which is who are these powerful people who
[04:18:10] would visit a big rape island?
[04:18:12] I mean, they're 1,200 victims.
[04:18:14] It defies common sense that it was just Epstein and Maxwell, and they're hiding something.
[04:18:18] And you know why the American people are so upset?
[04:18:20] My ex-account had MAGA supporters supporting me for the first time, saying, you know,
[04:18:25] Pam Bondi, with, according to Susan Wells, she is breaking the law.
[04:18:29] She needs to be held accountable.
[04:18:31] referring to the Vanity Fair quote that the Chief of Staff gave saying the whiffs and she said
[04:18:38] Pam Bondi gave them binders full of nothingness and then when it came to the client list she
[04:18:42] said it was on her desk. There is no client list quote and it sure as hell wasn't on her desk.
[04:18:48] Do you see that as an acknowledgement here though that that the politics have overtaken the
[04:18:52] substance? No, for us it's about the survivors and if you look at Thomas Mancy in my comments
[04:19:00] the morning of the release, we were giving Blanche the benefit of the doubt.
[04:19:05] We said, if it's not all there, fine, just get the information out.
[04:19:09] It's when the survivors said that this is an insult, this is a slap in their face, that
[04:19:14] we aren't getting the truth about who these men were on rape island, that we started
[04:19:19] sounding the alarm.
[04:19:20] And this is more documents of nothingness.
[04:19:22] And I guess the question the American people have, even to me, is the system so corrupt?
[04:19:28] the system so corrupt that Thomas Massian, you defy the odds. Pass a bill through a discharge
[04:19:34] petition. Get the Senate. Get the-
[04:19:35] Why is the Senate so oppositional? We call that the Barry Weiss Effect, baby. I mean, it's
[04:19:47] already faced the nation. It's usually like pretty fucking pro whatever establishment
[04:19:52] politics is, regardless of the exchange of power. And she always was kind of like that.
[04:20:02] But you know, I'm sure Barry Weiss's editorial control has not helped if you are noticing
[04:20:19] a real shift in the way that the CBS's news coverage is changing, especially like the
[04:20:25] the big high profile, um, high profile, uh, programming like face the nation or as we'll
[04:20:37] be talking about in a little bit 60 minutes, it's that is directly Barry Weiss is doing
[04:20:44] president to sign it and still these rich and powerful people are being
[04:20:48] protected. Who has this kind of hold on our government? What are they hiding?
[04:20:52] Why are they not releasing this? You just say noticing what? Noticing? Oh my
[04:20:58] God, noticing. Yeah, dude, I used noticing the term that, you know, people
[04:21:05] use. It doesn't always have to be about, I don't know, some kind of
[04:21:10] major jewish conspiracy
[04:21:14] well you want what people involved in those initial investigations down in
[04:21:18] florida re-examined and possibly prosecuted
[04:21:21] before are we doing i want the information
[04:21:25] out which was in that prosecution memo that akasta disregarded that were in
[04:21:30] the right to turn into a show for cbs margaret always was a bit of a show
[04:21:34] that's why she does this job but it's kind of like tony
[04:21:38] Tony, the penis, right? Tony, the couple, Tony, double sir, double sir, Tony, like he was already a dick writer for Israel. Right. And then Barry wise comes in editor in chief, elevates his profile within CBS. He got promoted. Right. He's going to get a triple snip now.
[04:22:00] I'm criticizing your interviewing skills, but honestly, your interview with the Rokana
[04:22:06] was much better than this crap, and I mean that, and it's an objective journalist level.
[04:22:10] Thank you.
[04:22:11] The two counts were prosecuted.
[04:22:13] I want to know who were these other people who were on the Epstein's rape island, who
[04:22:18] were the people who saw young girls being paraded around at parties, 13, 14, 15-year-olds,
[04:22:23] and didn't say anything, and why is it so hard when there's a law requiring these
[04:22:28] names to come out, what we're seeing is survivors names come out, but not the men who abused
[04:22:32] them. And instead of, instead of holding elites accountable.
[04:22:36] I like that the way that, I mean, this is a testament to how powerless American Congress
[04:22:43] is, that you have two Congress persons that were able to write a law and act in Congress,
[04:22:53] get the Senate to sign off on it, get the president to sign off on it. And now
[04:22:57] Now they have to go on television to literally beg the Department of Justice to follow the
[04:23:02] letter of the law, okay?
[04:23:06] This is not like, like what are we doing?
[04:23:09] This is not a suggestion, okay?
[04:23:13] This is something that is now the law.
[04:23:16] It's not that complex.
[04:23:18] The very fact that there is any back and forth on this whatsoever blows my fucking
[04:23:23] mind.
[04:23:26] It doesn't make any sense.
[04:23:30] Trump as president signed it into law.
[04:23:38] What more do we want here?
[04:23:40] What more can we do here?
[04:23:41] What do you think about this girl's reaction to your Rokona interview, brother?
[04:23:44] Come on.
[04:23:45] You just want to be home, my fucking lord.
[04:23:48] Oh my god.
[04:23:50] Who cares, please, please, please, please.
[04:24:02] This is part of what I was talking about earlier.
[04:24:06] Part of what I was talking about earlier was like the people who like immediately jump
[04:24:10] on board, immediately jump on board with the, well, this is a reasonable criticism.
[04:24:19] Like, the people who are spamming zeoran, okay?
[04:24:26] Please stop.
[04:24:28] I don't know how many times I have to explain
[04:24:30] like imperfect allies or having a relationship
[04:24:36] and like trying to move the needle
[04:24:37] in the appropriate direction,
[04:24:40] even if that person is not fully on board.
[04:24:43] I use it as an example, even with the conversation
[04:24:47] I have with Rokana showing you where he was, showing you where he was a year ago versus
[04:24:55] where he's at now, explaining to you that there's still obviously a fuck ton more work
[04:25:00] to be done.
[04:25:04] Ugh.
[04:25:09] By no means am I saying, oh my god Rokana is the bravest warrior for the anti-genocide
[04:25:15] cause or the anti-Israel cause. I'm not saying that at all please just let me let me do my work, okay?
[04:25:45] Deputy Attorney General Blanche says DOJ is not redacting information on Trump and Epstein
[04:25:53] files in the full interview.
[04:25:55] And joining me now is Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche.
[04:25:59] Mr. Blanche, welcome to Meet the Press.
[04:26:01] I think when they say this, when they introduce Todd Blanche like this, they're doing
[04:26:07] a disservice.
[04:26:08] They should start in the same way that I do.
[04:26:11] Trump defense attorney Todd Blanche, former Trump defense attorney, now deputy attorney
[04:26:20] general Todd Blanche. Cause like, you know how MPR will be like, we are also, you know,
[04:26:26] obligated to tell you that we're sponsored by Facebook or whatever. Like Facebook, Facebook
[04:26:30] is, is one of our, you know, and they're doing a story about Facebook. They have to
[04:26:35] tell you like that Facebook is an investor or whatever. Like they've a, a donated
[04:26:40] to NPR, it's kind of like that, I feel like this is important information to put into every
[04:26:49] conversation about top Lynch, right?
[04:26:53] There must be an additional disclosure because clearly there is a conflict of interest to
[04:26:59] begin with when you have the close and personal defense attorney of Donald Trump now doing
[04:27:08] this role.
[04:27:17] And the same goes for the Attorney General, Pam Bondi as well, because both Todd Blanche
[04:27:21] and Pam Bondi have, at different points in time, been hired by Donald Trump to legally
[04:27:28] represent them.
[04:27:29] They were counsel.
[04:27:30] They were defense attorneys for Donald Trump, both of them.
[04:27:32] Good morning.
[04:27:34] Thank you so much for being here.
[04:27:36] Let's dive right in.
[04:27:37] Epstein Files Transparency Act called for all files with limited exceptions to be released
[04:27:43] within 30 days.
[04:27:44] On Friday, the Justice Department released just a fraction of the overall Epstein Files.
[04:27:50] Why didn't the Justice Department meet that Friday deadline?
[04:27:54] Good morning.
[04:27:57] So it's very simple and very clear.
[04:28:00] The statute also requires us to protect victims.
[04:28:04] And so the reason why we are still reviewing documents and still continuing our process
[04:28:09] is simply that, to protect victims.
[04:28:12] So the same individuals that are out there complaining about the lack of documents that
[04:28:17] were produced on Friday are the same individuals who apparently don't want us to protect
[04:28:21] victims.
[04:28:22] So we're going through a very methodical process with hundreds of lawyers looking
[04:28:27] at every single document and making sure that they're-
[04:28:30] Yeah
[04:28:32] Listen listen listen we just it's a simple accident that like some of the files that we we deleted
[04:28:39] After people called it out happen to have photos of Donald Trump
[04:28:43] Okay, simple accident could have happened to anybody and also who are you to say that Trump wasn't victimized personally by Jeffrey Epstein?
[04:28:52] Okay, like for example
[04:28:54] Nobody, nobody grieved harder than Donald Trump when his close and personal best friend
[04:29:00] who happens to be an international pedophile sex trafficker for intelligence agencies died
[04:29:05] under mysterious circumstances, committed suicide under the watchful gaze of Donald
[04:29:12] Trump's very own Department of Justice Department of Corrections in a federal prison.
[04:29:16] This was very sad.
[04:29:17] This was a very sad moment for Donald Trump.
[04:29:21] Okay, he was grieving.
[04:29:25] That's only one way that Trump was victimized by Jeffrey Epstein.
[04:29:29] Just one, simple, but nobody ever thinks about it.
[04:29:32] And under those guidelines, it is perfectly understandable to redact Donald Trump's name
[04:29:37] for the entire files, to redact Donald Trump's photos from the entirety of the files, because
[04:29:41] he too was a victim, okay?
[04:29:46] That's it.
[04:29:48] He lost a friend that victims names and any of the information from victims is protected
[04:29:55] and redacted, which is exactly what the transparency act expects.
[04:29:59] That's exactly what attorneys around Bondi expects.
[04:30:02] It's exactly what President Trump expects.
[04:30:03] So that's what we're doing.
[04:30:05] Well you're talking about protecting the victims.
[04:30:07] The law directed the Justice Department to, quote, release internal DOJ communications,
[04:30:13] including emails, memos, meeting notes concerning decisions to charge, not charge,
[04:30:18] investigate or decline to investigate Epstein or his associates. That's the crux of what
[04:30:23] many of the victims or the survivors say they want to see. Why wasn't that information
[04:30:30] prioritized in the first release, Mr. Blanch?
[04:30:33] Well, first of all, it was. And there are numerous documents released on Friday that
[04:30:39] address what you just quoted from the statute that address internal communications
[04:30:43] within the Department of Justice and internal communications between law enforcement and
[04:30:48] in the Department of Justice, but it's for the same reason,
[04:30:51] because many of those internal communications
[04:30:53] talk about victims.
[04:30:55] Many of those internal back and forth
[04:30:56] between prosecutors and law enforcement
[04:30:58] talk about victims and their stories,
[04:31:00] and that has to be redacted.
[04:31:02] And by the way, everybody expects us to redact that.
[04:31:05] So the same complaints that we're hearing yesterday
[04:31:08] and even this morning from Democrats
[04:31:11] and from others screaming loudly from a hill
[04:31:13] about lack of production on Friday,
[04:31:16] Imagine if we had released tons of information around victims, that would be the true crime,
[04:31:21] that would be the true wrong.
[04:31:23] And if anybody out there, I heard Congressman Raskin, the Democrats on the House Oversight
[04:31:29] Committee releasing statements.
[04:31:30] They don't want to say Thomas Massey and like also a big chunk of Republicans also
[04:31:38] voted for this.
[04:31:41] They don't want to admit.
[04:31:44] They don't wanna admit that a lot of Republican voters want this to be released in its entirety
[04:31:52] and they're not satisfied and are very frustrated with the way that this release has gone so
[04:31:58] far.
[04:32:02] They won't even, there's also an additional clause in the way that the law was written
[04:32:10] that where they have to basically prove why they're redacting certain things like all internal
[04:32:15] correspondence about decisions being made about redactions must be revealed as well,
[04:32:21] which they are obviously not doing either. They're just doing a blanket redaction. There's
[04:32:27] been a blanket redaction where they're just like, oh, or a blanket announcement. Oh, everyone
[04:32:31] that's redacted is a victim. That's it. He's lying Bloomberg reported there were
[04:32:36] FOIA request, redacting Trump and other private individuals names. Yeah. The FBI redacted Trump's
[04:32:40] name in the Epstein files. The bureau's FOIA team asked with conducting a final review of the
[04:32:45] records blacked out. The names before higher up said last month, they were releasing the
[04:32:48] documents would not be appropriate or warranted. They hit him with a freedom of information act.
[04:33:02] This room, August.
[04:33:06] Listen, it's gonna be really hard.
[04:33:12] We've already redacted Donald Trump from everything.
[04:33:15] It's gonna be really hard to unredact him, okay?
[04:33:17] You know, you know how many Sharpies we used?
[04:33:20] Do you understand how many Sharpies we used specifically to redact Donald Trump?
[04:33:26] He's kind of fat.
[04:33:27] He's kind of big.
[04:33:28] He's all over the files.
[04:33:31] What are we supposed to do?
[04:33:34] There's no control Z.
[04:33:36] There's no undue button, we sharpened the fuck out of him.
[04:33:39] He's literally everywhere.
[04:33:41] He is, he keeps crawling out of every orifice on the fucking files.
[04:33:48] What are you supposed to do on her dactyne?
[04:33:50] It's too hard.
[04:34:00] What is this?
[04:34:01] I have known Tuesday nights in New York City club land that were 100x the entirety
[04:34:05] of the Epstein file. Seriously, what an incredible accomplishment to make this Epstein stuff seem
[04:34:09] like the height of elite decadence while a thousand Caligula's party on wait, what? Dude,
[04:34:19] I am very, very weirded out and very suspicious of people that try to undermine the Jeffrey
[04:34:27] Epstein stuff to actively try to go look away, look away, whether it be the David
[04:34:32] Brooks style Jeffrey Epstein files being released count me out like that kind of commentary or
[04:34:40] this one is more direct where they're just trying to say like now 1200 girls that were you know sex
[04:34:46] traffic many of which sex traffic is minors by a international pedophile who was friends with
[04:34:56] Virtually every elite in western society
[04:35:04] Former presidents, you know, that's all
[04:35:08] That's all fine, dude. It's not that big of a deal. Why are you even paying attention to this?
[04:35:13] I go to parties where they do way more crazy shit to children
[04:35:18] first of all
[04:35:20] Why would you release that information? Okay?
[04:35:23] Like why would you say, oh dude, I've actually fucking,
[04:35:28] I've actually seen way younger children,
[04:35:33] way younger children be harmed.
[04:35:38] Like what, what kind of fucking,
[04:35:40] what kind of statement is that?
[04:35:42] That just makes you look insane, okay?
[04:35:44] But I am genuinely confused as to why people have this tendency.
[04:35:58] There's that classic Amy Therese post as well.
[04:36:02] There were a couple people that were, there were like all these edgy, no contra points
[04:36:09] his take was silly. Because she was like, oh, Jeffrey Epstein actually just had an unlimited
[04:36:15] appetite for raping children. And that's why all of the victims, even though the victims
[04:36:21] themselves have said it wasn't just Jeffrey Epstein, all of the victims were actually
[04:36:24] victimized by Jeffrey Epstein, right? Like, that was a dumb take, but it wasn't trying
[04:36:29] to like, I don't know, I just, it doesn't have the same energy as, it does not have
[04:36:36] the same energy as the ways in which people are trying to cast doubt on the actual elite
[04:36:48] conspiracy at play here.
[04:36:51] And yes, I do agree with Para Power Mapping on this.
[04:36:53] Do people not realize that memeification of Epstein plays in the hands of the pedacritic
[04:36:59] ruling class?
[04:37:00] Every time anyone shit-posed about his fits, his winsome Chihuahua pick, or how hot
[04:37:04] Jaleh Maxwell is we play into the normalizing sly up the elite pit of deli is a negative
[04:37:08] result of immense wealth and power that if you were able to trade place with Epstein,
[04:37:13] you'd also be tempted to sex trafficking underage, which is what Epstein nexus desperately wants
[04:37:16] you to believe. They want Epstein chic, the Jeffrey lifestyle to become aspirational.
[04:37:21] This is why Epstein associates like Darth field, pay Silicon Valley sex workers a retainer
[04:37:26] to spout in a petto thought experiment polls on the timeline every week or so. And he's
[04:37:31] referencing what's that other girl who doesn't shower, the one that gets paid by Peter Iella or
[04:37:39] whatever. Yeah. Or even at a certain point it was the now liberals favorite white supremacist
[04:37:49] race realist, uh, fuck. Uh, god damn it. Who's the, who's the, Richard Hananya? Like, it's
[04:38:01] not an accident that so many of these people routinely find themselves either trying to
[04:38:06] normalize, uh, routinely try to find themselves like, routinely find themselves normalizing
[04:38:12] like pedophilia, pedophilia, jazzy shit. Maybe they're just like personally open-minded,
[04:38:17] I guess an air cause about stuff like that, but it does rub me the wrong way.
[04:38:21] Anyway.
[04:38:23] Every time someone posts on like this, we inch closer to a world in which Kevin
[04:38:26] Spacey once again has gigs in Hollywood and Harvey Weinstein's release.
[04:38:29] Do not help them.
[04:38:30] There's already negligible accountability.
[04:38:31] Justice of capitals can't grew court.
[04:38:33] Don't make it easier for them to rehabilitate Epstein and Diddy nexus.
[04:38:36] Then it needs to be in full disclosure of risk of hypocrisy.
[04:38:39] I say this is someone who is guilty of having cracked a very rare
[04:38:43] joke about Galein's bazookas no longer delete this account.
[04:38:47] So, I don't know, I just, I do find it strange to the degree of which like, like there are
[04:39:05] different ways, I guess there are different ways of like making a mockery of Jeffrey Epstein,
[04:39:12] Right? But he's just like me for real type posting is not actually joking about Jeffrey
[04:39:20] Epstein in the direction where you're, where you're actually making a mockery.
[04:39:27] Jeffrey Epstein are people who are defending him.
[04:39:29] You know what I mean?
[04:39:30] That's not how the internet works.
[04:39:31] No, I agree.
[04:39:32] I agree.
[04:39:33] I'm just saying it does rub me the wrong way a little bit.
[04:39:38] like it's kind of um it's it's not dissimilar to like even uh charters were like you know drawing
[04:39:51] putting the lolita quotes on my foot you know on my foot pic
[04:39:59] because i do worry about the nature of the internet where we just don't take anything seriously
[04:40:08] We don't take anything seriously on the internet and it does make me feel like it plays a role
[04:40:15] in normalizing certain kinds of crimes, right?
[04:40:18] Like it's almost, yeah, meme washing.
[04:40:32] Especially if it's, I mean, it's like what happened with the Kirkification, right?
[04:40:39] It definitely changed the serious tone that the administration was trying to present with
[04:40:46] Charlie Kirk's assassination into something that is completely fucking unserious.
[04:40:53] Whereas like with the Jeffrey F. Neeson stuff, it's like, you know, like there are things
[04:40:58] that you can do that for is what I'm saying.
[04:41:00] this is you know maybe we should dial it back on that but it's not gonna I'm
[04:41:04] never gonna be able to stop people from memifying Jeffrey Epstein I'm just
[04:41:10] saying it just like rubs me the wrong way a little bit
[04:41:18] in any case in any case there was I do want to show you the fucking crazy
[04:41:30] The crazy post from, what was it, Amy, Teresa, or whatever, like the OG, OG pivot from being
[04:41:40] a quote unquote leftist to like doing the Red Scare style pivot, like the Red Scare
[04:41:45] Girls did.
[04:41:47] She was like the archetype of that kind of getting the back from Peter Thiel and becoming
[04:41:52] this like reactionary.
[04:41:54] And she also had, and so did the Red Scare Girls, had a take about Jeffrey Epstein that
[04:42:02] like made it seem like he was not a real pedophile or anything, right?
[04:42:08] It's like, it plays along with the thing that Megyn Kelly was doing.
[04:42:13] If you recall a couple days prior, remember when Megyn Kelly was talking about how it's
[04:42:21] like not, should it be a crime to fuck 15 year olds or whatever?
[04:42:24] she was saying shit like that. And we immediately dialed in on exactly what she was doing, making
[04:42:30] the actually it's a feeble feeble arguments and whatnot.
[04:42:35] And in any case, like, there is a little bit of that too. And it's a it's frustrating
[04:42:39] to see it's like terrifying to see really because I do think that a lot of people
[04:42:45] with an endless appetite for, for constantly tackling new things constantly pushing the
[04:42:51] boundaries of what is acceptable, expanding the permission structure to different forms
[04:42:56] of racism, bigotry and whatnot, they do this with pedophilia as well, and it's like, come
[04:43:03] on, can we just have like one established thing that's bad?
[04:43:06] What are we doing?
[04:43:07] What the fuck are we doing?
[04:43:11] We can't have one fucking thing.
[04:43:14] What is happening?
[04:43:15] like throughout I guess the last couple of decades there was a couple things that
[04:43:22] we all agreed were bad okay due to the historic violence and the and the and the
[04:43:31] the the incredible nature of the crimes like chattel slavery Nazis pedophilia
[04:43:38] like everyone we had established that this was so barbaric and so cruel so
[04:43:44] ruthless, so villainous that it was like seen as a universal bad. And now people are just
[04:43:49] like trying to have real conversations about how, you know, maybe they're not so bad and
[04:43:54] I'm just like, please, what are we doing? We not realize that we're just like ruining
[04:43:58] whatever what remains of the social fabric that kept everything together. The endless
[04:44:04] investment into vice signaling has let people to tackle even more ridiculous things. Public
[04:44:14] opinion was much more centralized than so the guardrails that enabled that are largely gone.
[04:44:18] Yeah, that's just people on the internet though, no?
[04:44:21] Ah.
[04:44:30] In any case,
[04:44:34] did anyone find the fucking thing I was looking for,
[04:44:37] the Amy Teresey style?
[04:44:39] The Amy Teresey post I was looking for specifically?
[04:44:41] I don't know.
[04:44:42] I guess none of you guys could find it.
[04:44:44] It's not her account.
[04:44:45] So it's like someone's screenshotting her account
[04:44:47] I don't even think she has an account still, but she does this thing where she's like basically
[04:44:58] saying like Jeffrey Epstein wasn't a pedophile.
[04:45:01] He was a scene F word, right?
[04:45:04] like, you know, the edgy groiper style posting to normalize Jeffrey Epstein's actions.
[04:45:20] Oh here it is.
[04:45:24] And once again, this is the archetype of the, you know, Dasha, Red Scare, Pivot.
[04:45:34] Epstein was a polite door with an emotional arrested development who liked girls who were
[04:45:39] young and pleasant and wanted to be there.
[04:45:41] He wasn't a child rapist.
[04:45:42] He was a nebish scene F word, a charismatic hipster, desperate for the kind of validation
[04:45:47] that only as powerful and important friends could provide, having been convicted for
[04:45:51] and done the time associated with spurious crime
[04:45:53] of soliciting an underage prostitute in Florida.
[04:45:55] In parentheses, she lied about her age.
[04:45:57] By the way, all of this is wrong.
[04:46:05] I can see how he would have had total nurses
[04:46:07] to collapse and seen fit to kill himself.
[04:46:11] All of this is completely wrong for the record.
[04:46:14] Spurious crime of soliciting an underage prostitute
[04:46:16] in Florida, she lied about her age, just wrong.
[04:46:19] uh... no this wasn't three days ago this was a long time ago but someone
[04:46:22] screenshot of it
[04:46:26] he only existed in the idealized reflection of himself that his famous
[04:46:29] friends mirrored back to him ruin his reputation with petafile exasperation
[04:46:32] that turned into a crusade
[04:46:33] have the best charge him a second time for the same underlying crime the lock
[04:46:36] him up in new york and have him staring down the barrel of a multi-decade
[04:46:40] custodial sentence
[04:46:49] She's posting about Jeff Repstein like it was a streamer who got caught grooming. Yeah, it's fucking gross when people do that for streamers
[04:46:56] They get caught grooming too
[04:47:00] This is is this a Joglemont no this is the this is what happens when you have contrarian brain poisoning
[04:47:07] Where everything has to be you have to find the most like the hottest
[04:47:13] the most contrarian take of all time and
[04:47:16] And you have no you have no care or consideration for your output at all
[04:47:23] Okay
[04:47:27] And and that's that's what you arrive at eventually that's why I always say like the debate lord brain poison
[04:47:35] Inevitably leads people into having conversations about the ethics of incest and pedophilia
[04:47:41] Okay, that's where it always goes because you're constantly trying to fucking
[04:47:46] Push the boundaries, right? I used to say this all the time back in the day when I used to, you know, make fun of debate lords
[04:47:52] I call them debate pedophiles because like the maximum debate Lord brain poisoning
[04:47:57] Means that once you have tackled every subject matter, you're inevitably going to want to have these pseudo intellectual battles over
[04:48:07] You know pedophilia or
[04:48:10] C-SAM
[04:48:12] It's very, very, very strange behavior.
[04:48:18] It's repulsive to the average person, but these guys are extremely online and they're
[04:48:23] serving a market of people who want that, who have an appetite for this like, this
[04:48:32] ridiculous back and forth.
[04:48:36] And they think this is the height of being an intellectual, okay?
[04:48:42] They think, oh, you're just, you have a small mind.
[04:48:44] You have a small brain.
[04:48:46] And that's why you can't put time and effort
[04:48:48] into defending pedophilia
[04:48:50] or even entertaining the subject matter.
[04:48:53] The reason why you're not entertaining
[04:48:55] is because you're too scared that you might be convinced
[04:48:58] or whatever, isn't it better to test your arguments
[04:49:01] in the marketplace of ideas?
[04:49:03] Not realizing that a lot of the people who are doing that
[04:49:05] are just simply trying to normalize it.
[04:49:07] Okay?
[04:49:12] That's it.
[04:49:19] That's it.
[04:49:24] Huh.
[04:49:30] Ayala on Doomscroll did exactly this.
[04:49:32] It was a moron.
[04:49:33] Yeah, it's just, it's just what these guys do it.
[04:49:37] Some of them do it because they think it's like a hidden truth that you're unlocking.
[04:49:41] It's the exact same way that like an anti-Semites brain works, right?
[04:49:47] Anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools they say and this is how it is where you're like, oh well
[04:49:52] This is a safeguarded secret. Why is it a secret? Oh, it's a sacred cow. It must be tackled
[04:49:58] Right like they they think they're arriving at some hidden secret truth
[04:50:03] And it can be something as silly as like getting duped by flat earth or conspiracies or it can be something a little bit more nefarious
[04:50:11] uh... with uh... historic significance like uh... neo-nazi conspiracies about
[04:50:16] uh... the the international jury
[04:50:19] destroying western civilization
[04:50:22] that neatly ties all of your current modern problems
[04:50:26] back to a shadowy group of jews that operate in a monolithic fashion
[04:50:30] that dominate and control every aspect of your lives
[04:50:34] much easier to understand
[04:50:36] uh... a grand conspiracy
[04:50:38] then it is to actually think about this stuff
[04:50:41] uh... from a materialist framework which you most likely have never really
[04:50:45] encountered especially in the western world
[04:50:48] it's accusing the attorney general bondy
[04:50:50] direct-partal of myself
[04:50:52] of not doing our jobs if they have an issue
[04:50:55] with me protecting victims they know how to get a hold of me
[04:50:58] but we're not going to stop doing it
[04:50:59] well let's talk about the redactions which you raise the epstein files
[04:51:03] transparency act prohibits redactions quote
[04:51:06] on the basis of embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity. Has anything been redacted
[04:51:14] on that basis? Absolutely, positively not. And that's another trend that is just simply false.
[04:51:24] There were a number of photographs that were pulled down after being released on Friday.
[04:51:29] That's because a judge in New York has ordered us to listen to any victim or victim rights
[04:51:35] group if they have any concerns about the material that we're putting up.
[04:51:38] And so when we hear concerns, whether it's photographs of women that we do not believe
[04:51:43] are victims or we didn't have information to show that they were victims, but we learned
[04:51:47] that there are concerns, of course, we're taking that photograph down and we're going
[04:51:51] to address it if we need to redact faces or other information, we will.
[04:51:55] And then we'll put it back up.
[04:51:56] So we are in every way, shape and form, complying with this statute, which by
[04:52:01] By the way, is what President Trump has been asking us to do since before he was elected.
[04:52:07] There is nothing that he has to hide in the Epstein files, there never was.
[04:52:11] And even though there's repeated attempts by Democrats to paint him as being part of
[04:52:15] the Epstein saga, it's failing over and over again.
[04:52:18] And so you should not be surprised that the material that we released on Friday
[04:52:22] or the material that we're going to release over the next couple of weeks is exactly
[04:52:26] what the statute requires us to release, which is everything that we have from this
[04:52:31] case with the exception of redacting personal information from victims and other statutes,
[04:52:39] you know, privileges and things like that. Otherwise, everything's getting produced.
[04:52:42] Mr. Blanch, I want to follow up with you. Also, there's a there's a second interesting
[04:52:49] through line in this in the stories of plotline where Todd Blanch also directly went to
[04:52:54] The Golan Maxwell had a conversation with Golan Maxwell directly about clearing Trump's
[04:53:01] name even before when they were worried about people demanding that they release more of
[04:53:07] the Epstein files.
[04:53:09] And considering Golan Maxwell knows where the bodies are buried, that was a pretty interesting
[04:53:15] moment from the administration where the deputy attorney general, former Trump lawyer, now
[04:53:26] turned deputy attorney general, was acting as the deputy attorney general to quote-unquote
[04:53:31] protect their client, the president, when the DOJ is supposed to be an independent
[04:53:35] body for good reason.
[04:53:37] But you just said you were referencing the 15 files released Friday.
[04:53:42] They disappeared from DOJ's website yesterday, including this photo of what looks like a desk
[04:53:50] with a drawer open containing photos of Donald Trump.
[04:53:53] He's like, oh, don't show that.
[04:53:55] There's the victim.
[04:53:57] The victim, Donald Trump, is in that photo.
[04:53:59] He's very clear to put a fine point on it.
[04:54:02] Why were these files taken down?
[04:54:04] You're saying it was at the direction of a judge?
[04:54:09] You can see in that photo, there's photographs of women.
[04:54:12] And so we learned after releasing that photograph that there were concerns about those women
[04:54:17] and the fact that we had put that photo up.
[04:54:19] So we pulled that photo down.
[04:54:20] Oh, they were being nice.
[04:54:23] Trump happens to not appear anywhere else, by the way.
[04:54:27] Yeah, okay.
[04:54:32] There's nothing to do with President Trump.
[04:54:34] There are dozens of photos of President Trump already released to the public, seeing him
[04:54:39] with Mr. Epstein.
[04:54:40] again, none of which came from the Epstein files though. Something to consider. Yes, that
[04:54:48] is true. Many of them came from the House Oversight Committee and the photos they got, they
[04:54:56] got from the Epstein estate. Weirdly enough, there are a lot of photos out there of Donald
[04:55:02] Trump with a bunch of victims and a bunch of people and specifically Jeffrey
[04:55:07] Epstein. And yet for some reason they're not in the investigation at all.
[04:55:19] That's kind of the question. As a matter of fact, the only time we saw a photo
[04:55:23] of Donald Trump, the current president, your former, you know, the guy who
[04:55:27] formerly hired you, your former client, it was redacted or not even redacted.
[04:55:34] It was deleted after people found it out in the files.
[04:55:40] It's just a strange coincidence.
[04:55:42] I guess that that was the one time Donald Trump appears in the absentee files as a photograph.
[04:55:53] He has said that in the nineties and early 2000s, he socialized with him.
[04:55:57] So, the absurdity of us pulling down a photo.
[04:56:00] Why is he defending Trump?
[04:56:01] That's not his job.
[04:56:03] Good one.
[04:56:04] A single photo, because President Trump was in it, is laughable.
[04:56:08] Well, he's defending the victims, right?
[04:56:11] Like I said, we already established this, guys.
[04:56:13] Donald Trump is the greatest victim of Jeffrey Epstein.
[04:56:16] Okay?
[04:56:17] 1,200 women, not real victims.
[04:56:19] Donald Trump, the only real victim.
[04:56:22] The fact that everybody's trying to act like that's the case is a reflection of
[04:56:25] their true motivation, but the reality is anybody, any victim, any victim's lawyers,
[04:56:31] any victim rights group can reach out to us and say, hey, Department of Justice, there's
[04:56:36] a document, there's a photo, there's something within the Epstein files that identifies
[04:56:40] me, and we will then, of course, pull that off and investigate it.
[04:56:44] Are you saying that one or more of the women in one of the photos or several of the
[04:56:50] photos is a victim or a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein and that's why you took
[04:56:56] the those files down and will they be put back up? No that's not that's not
[04:57:02] what I'm saying we of course if we knew that if we had if we believe that
[04:57:07] that photograph contained a survivor we wouldn't have put it up in the
[04:57:11] first place without redacting the faces but not withstanding what we believe
[04:57:15] we don't have perfect information and so when when we hear from victims
[04:57:19] rights groups about this type of photograph, we pull it down and investigate.
[04:57:23] We're still investigating that photo.
[04:57:25] The photo will go back up, and the only question is whether there will be redactions on the
[04:57:30] photo.
[04:57:31] And of course, if there are survivors in any of the photos, we will redact them as
[04:57:35] Congress expects us to do, as President Trump expects us to do, and as the Attorney
[04:57:40] General and Director Patel directed the Department to do.
[04:57:43] Okay.
[04:57:44] Let's delve more deeply into the redactions.
[04:57:46] any information about President Trump redacted in any of the files that have or will be released?
[04:57:56] No, not unless it's supposed to be redacted under the law, which means victim information
[04:58:01] or any sort of privilege, like attorney-client privilege, but I have no reason to believe
[04:58:06] that the lawyers that were working on this case were talking about President Trump,
[04:58:10] because he had nothing to do with the Epstein files, he had nothing to do with the horrific
[04:58:15] crimes that Mr. Epstein committed and so I don't expect there will be anything
[04:58:18] redacted but the short answer is we are not redacting information around
[04:58:22] President Trump around any other individual involved with with Mr. Epstein
[04:58:27] and and that narrative which is not based on fact. Wait did he actually say
[04:58:32] Trump is a victim? I'm sorry I was pissing. If there are survivors in
[04:58:37] any of the photos we will redact them as Congress expects us to do as
[04:58:42] President Trump expects us to do and as the Attorney General and Director Patel
[04:58:46] directed the department to do. Okay let's delve more deeply into the
[04:58:50] redactions. Is any information about President Trump redacted in any of
[04:58:56] the files that have or will be released? No, not unless it's supposed to be
[04:59:03] redacted under the law which means victim information or any sort of
[04:59:07] privilege like attorney-client privilege but I have no reason to
[04:59:10] believe that the lawyers that were working on this case were talking about President Trump
[04:59:15] because he had nothing to do with the Epstein files. He had nothing to do with the horrific
[04:59:20] crimes that Mr. Epstein committed. And so I don't expect there will be anything redacted,
[04:59:24] but the short answer is we are not redacted.
[04:59:27] Chad, nothing is here. He's just saying no. Come on.
[04:59:30] Acting information around President Trump, around any other individual involved with
[04:59:35] Mr. Epstein, and that narrative, which is not based on fact at all, is completely false.
[04:59:42] The White House has said that President Trump is included in the files.
[04:59:46] Can you guarantee that every mention and every photo of President Trump in the Epstein
[04:59:51] files will be released?
[04:59:54] Yes.
[04:59:55] Yes.
[04:59:56] I mean, I've said it three, four times now.
[04:59:59] We've said it before.
[05:00:00] And President Trump has said it repeatedly since before he was elected.
[05:00:04] And since he was elected all summer long, he said the same thing, I have nothing to hide.
[05:00:09] And so, of course that's the case.
[05:00:11] But let me just make sure everybody understands-
[05:00:13] I don't understand it, because this is an interview that just took place, right?
[05:00:16] It's a recent interview that took place yesterday.
[05:00:19] They already did this.
[05:00:21] We know that they did this.
[05:00:22] And it's not even just the photo, right?
[05:00:25] It's not even just the fucking photo that they're talking about with Donald Trump and
[05:00:29] like Donald Trump in the drawer.
[05:00:34] We know for a fact that they already did this.
[05:00:36] They literally redacted Trump's name from shit.
[05:00:42] It's crazy.
[05:00:45] What are we talking about, man?
[05:00:52] Any time he says no, that's not the case.
[05:00:53] We're not doing that.
[05:00:54] It's like, okay, well, you're fucking lying.
[05:00:57] And I don't know why.
[05:00:58] I don't know why she's not even bringing that up.
[05:01:01] She should be.
[05:01:03] She should be bringing it up because the Department of Justice has already done it and then haphazardly
[05:01:09] put it back together unredacted next time around, including in files that the Department
[05:01:14] of Justice had released in the past where they had not redacted Donald Trump's name,
[05:01:20] which implies that this time around there was an extra need to go over all the files
[05:01:26] and take out Trump's name and mentions of Trump and photos of Trump from all of the
[05:01:31] fucking files. What is the need for that? Why did that happen? Why are you telling me that
[05:01:36] that's not what's happening? When there are literal documents that the Department of Justice
[05:01:41] released in the past where Trump's name was unredacted from the same exact documents,
[05:01:44] but this time around, they were not.
[05:01:49] To the extent that he is quote in the Epstein files, it's not because he had
[05:02:00] anything to do with the horrific crimes. Full stop. But yes, if President Trump is mentioned,
[05:02:06] if there's photographs that we have of President Trump or anybody else, they of course will
[05:02:11] be released with the exception of any victims or survivors that we've identified, which
[05:02:17] we will either not release that photograph if it's just a photograph of a survivor,
[05:02:22] or if we do release the photograph because there's other individuals in the picture,
[05:02:26] The survivor's face or her entire body, in some cases, will be redacted.
[05:02:32] And we're talking about President Trump in relation to this for months.
[05:02:35] He urged Republicans to stop pushing for-
[05:02:38] Dude, why hasn't anybody still applied the defense?
[05:02:41] And I'm suspected they will soon.
[05:02:43] Oh, you're creepy for wanting to see all of these files.
[05:02:47] I feel like I haven't seen enough of that cynical line of defense where, oh, you're
[05:02:51] just creepy.
[05:02:52] You don't even care about the victims.
[05:02:53] You just want to see Donald Trump in a bathing suit or something, you know what I mean?
[05:03:02] Give it a minute.
[05:03:03] Yeah, they were too busy celebrating Bill Clinton in a bathing suit to come up with
[05:03:07] that one.
[05:03:09] The files to be released, he dismissed the Epstein files as a hoax.
[05:03:13] I want to play a little bit of what he has said about the Epstein files before he signed
[05:03:17] the law.
[05:03:18] a big hoax that's perpetrated by the Democrats and some stupid Republicans.
[05:03:23] I don't understand why they would be so interested.
[05:03:27] He's dead for a long time.
[05:03:29] It's sorted, but it's boring.
[05:03:31] This is a Democrat hoax that never ends.
[05:03:36] Are the Epstein files a hoax, Mr. Blanche?
[05:03:41] What President Trump is saying is not that the Epstein files are a hoax.
[05:03:45] It's this game that Democrats have been playing for the past nine months around the EPSing
[05:03:49] files and is a complete and total hoax.
[05:03:52] Well, some Republicans were pushing for the release, too.
[05:03:55] Some of the Republicans were pushing for the release, too, just to be clear.
[05:03:59] Well, that's different.
[05:04:00] That's different.
[05:04:01] To be clear, releasing the files is not what President Trump has ever had an issue
[05:04:06] with.
[05:04:07] When he calls this a hoax, he's talking about the fact that there's this narrative
[05:04:10] out there, that the Department of Justice is somehow hiding or protecting.
[05:04:15] There's different when the Republicans are demanding advice from him.
[05:04:20] Protecting information about him, which is completely false, as evidenced by the fact
[05:04:24] that the Epsom files existed for years and years and years, and you did not hear a peak
[05:04:29] out of a single Democrat for the past four years, and yet we're supposed to believe
[05:04:33] that lo and behold, out of all the sudden, out of the blue, Senator Schumer suddenly
[05:04:37] cares about the epsom files. That's the hoax. And that's the hoax that has existed for months
[05:04:43] and months and months. This isn't about whether we would release or not release the epsom files.
[05:04:48] As a general matter, we do not release the files.
[05:04:53] It's just strange because like most of the motion on this side, on the issues coming from republicans,
[05:05:06] wonder why perhaps it has some to do with the fact that their entire commentary
[05:05:13] sphere for years and years have been like well Jeffrey Epstein is a Democrat
[05:05:20] operative he's a pedophile for the Democrats and we want all the files and
[05:05:25] then Trump even leaned into that and said he would actually release the files
[05:05:32] and now he's not and keep saying it's a fucking hoax of criminal investigations and
[05:05:38] prosecutions there's laws around that there's laws that protect the protect
[05:05:42] victims that protect the innocent so we're doing something here that is more
[05:05:46] transparent than we've done in any criminal investigation in the history
[05:05:50] of this country don't forget that in November President Trump directed the
[05:05:55] Attorney General to investigate speaking of investigations high-profile
[05:05:59] Democrats with ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Is the Justice Department investigating
[05:06:04] only Democrats or everyone with a connection to Jeffrey Epstein?
[05:06:10] So Jay Clayton, the US Attorney in the Southern District of New York, which is the office that had the the most recent Epstein case, is
[05:06:17] investigating pursuant to to the communication from President Trump. And by
[05:06:22] the way this department will always investigate anybody and anything that
[05:06:27] we learn about sex trafficking or any victim of of of horrible sex crimes that
[05:06:31] that takes place as as proof of that the Attorney General the director of FBI we
[05:06:37] have charged and we are prosecuting more I don't get it you know he's lying right
[05:06:42] yes I mean she quite literally said Donald Trump directed the the department
[05:06:49] of justice to prosecute Democrats are they only prosecuting Democrats are
[05:06:55] investigating Democrats and he literally said they're following Trump's lead as in yes without
[05:07:01] saying yes he said yes yes they are proud that they are investigating Democrats which
[05:07:14] for the record good you know obviously I don't give a shit but also investigating
[05:07:23] and prosecute the Republicans, too.
[05:07:32] Child predators just in the first 10 months of this administration,
[05:07:36] then the entire four years of the Biden administration.
[05:07:40] So this idea that that that there's some that we're protecting or doing
[05:07:43] something wrong when it comes to protecting victims is not true.
[05:07:47] Well, in the directive, President Trump singled out former President Bill
[05:07:51] Clinton. Of course a number of photos of President Clinton were released Friday.
[05:07:56] A Clinton spokesperson saying the White House hasn't been hiding these files for
[05:08:00] months, only to dump them late on a Friday to protect Bill Clinton. This is
[05:08:04] about shielding themselves from what comes next or from what they'll try and
[05:08:08] hide forever. Let me ask you bluntly, is President Clinton under investigation?
[05:08:16] I will never talk about ongoing criminal investigation. So I'm not
[05:08:19] to answer that question but but but let me address the the second part of the
[05:08:24] quote that you just gave us think about what how how patently absurd that
[05:08:28] position is the idea that we have hundreds and hundreds of DOJ lawyers
[05:08:33] these are not politicals it's not me it's not Attorney General Bondi looking at
[05:08:37] all of these files and determining whether they are right did he just admit
[05:08:40] that he's a politically biased it's not me it's not Attorney General Pam
[05:08:48] Bondi. It's actually impartial lawyers that work directly under me. Interesting admission.
[05:09:03] I think he means political appointees. Yeah, I guess. I guess that's what he means. Except
[05:09:12] But the interesting phenomena here is they still work under you.
[05:09:20] And under normal circumstances, even like the appointed position in most cases, this is
[05:09:33] of the jobs that is supposed to be seen as like independent. Okay. And if it wasn't, I
[05:09:44] mean, there would have been any, there would be no Watergate, there'd be no, there'd be
[05:09:48] no investigation in the wrongdoing of previous presidents. And I guess like in the future,
[05:09:53] how it's going to go.
[05:09:57] You're almost bald, Hasan.
[05:09:59] Wait, what?
[05:10:02] My haters have fucking eyeballs is so shocking whenever they say stuff like that.
[05:10:07] Also to the act, and we over-collected, by the way.
[05:10:23] We went out to all of our components and we said, give us any document that you think in
[05:10:27] any way, shape, or form is connected to the Epsin case.
[05:10:31] And that's what we're going through.
[05:10:32] So the idea that we are hiding something, or there's something that we have hidden
[05:10:36] under a rock around President Trump or other Republicans is not only false, but it's obviously
[05:10:42] false for anybody that's intelligent enough to think about what we're doing.
[05:10:45] Let me just put a fine point on this.
[05:10:47] Will the Justice Department bring any new charges against anyone based on the contents
[05:10:53] of these files?
[05:10:57] We have continued to investigate anybody associated with Jeffrey Epstein for years
[05:11:03] and years.
[05:11:04] We discussed this in our July memo and we continued.
[05:11:08] So the answer is, I don't know whether there'll be additional prosecutions based on the information
[05:11:12] that we had in July, based upon the information that I'm aware of now.
[05:11:17] We are not prepared to bring charges against anybody, but we are learning new information
[05:11:21] all the time.
[05:11:22] We learned the names of additional victims as recently as Wednesday of this week.
[05:11:26] Okay?
[05:11:27] So there's new names that we didn't have before that we ran across our database
[05:11:32] to understand whether they had ever met with law enforcement or ever talked to to the FBI.
[05:11:37] And so we're always investigating. And so it would be premature and not fair for me
[05:11:43] to unilaterally say yes or no to what future prosecutions there may be.
[05:11:48] Okay. Mr. Blanche, you talk about the reaction from Capitol Hill. Let me allow you to respond
[05:11:53] to some of it. Congressman Thomas Massey and Ro Khanna, the authors of the Epstein
[05:11:57] bill, say the partial release of files failed to comply with the law. They say they are
[05:12:02] considering looking into the possibility of impeachment proceedings, contempt, even criminal
[05:12:08] referrals for obstruction of justice for DOJ officials. Do you take these threats seriously?
[05:12:17] Not even a little bit. Bring it on. We are doing everything we're supposed to be doing
[05:12:21] to comply with this statute. And Congressman Massey and these other congressmen that
[05:12:26] coming out speaking negatively about Director Patel and the Attorney General
[05:12:30] have no idea what they're talking about. They know the work that we're going through.
[05:12:35] They know what we're doing to protect victims. I mean just think about what we're doing.
[05:12:39] You're talking about a million search pages of documents. Virtually all of them
[05:12:45] contain victim information. So why won't you don't you understand how hard it is
[05:12:52] to redact Donald Trump off of every page. When I tell you he's on every page, okay? I mean it.
[05:13:02] Do you know how tough that is? Do you know how many Sharpies we've used?
[05:13:09] There is a shortage of Sharpies around Langley.
[05:13:16] We had to go beyond the DMV.
[05:13:22] is tough. Nobody thinks about the carpal tunnel that my big beautiful lawyers got at the DOJ
[05:13:35] working day in, day out. No one ever factors in the imposter syndrome that we all feel.
[05:13:44] No one thinks about the ADHD that my agents have that caused them to put this off until
[05:13:54] the very last moment.
[05:13:57] Okay?
[05:13:59] Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
[05:14:06] Do you know how hard it makes my ADHD agents?
[05:14:11] Do you know how hard it makes their job
[05:14:14] when you give us a deadline?
[05:14:17] I will have you know they are neurodivergent.
[05:14:23] And when crunch time comes around,
[05:14:29] they have a very hard time abiding by the timeline.
[05:14:35] They have time blindness.
[05:14:41] It's tough, it's a tough job.
[05:14:46] Listen, the idea that Attorney General Bondi would ever let a single piece of paper go
[05:14:51] out of this department that contains victim information is something they know we won't
[05:14:56] do.
[05:14:57] And the fact that they're threatening to impeach her for protecting victims is a reflection
[05:15:02] of where their head's at.
[05:15:03] It's not a reflection of this department.
[05:15:05] We are complying with the statute, we will continue to comply with the statute.
[05:15:09] And if by complying with the statute, we don't produce everything on Friday, we produce
[05:15:14] things next week and the week after, that's still compliance with the statute.
[05:15:19] There is well settled law, as they should know, that in a case like this where we're required
[05:15:24] to produce within a certain amount of time, but also comply with other laws like redacting
[05:15:29] information, that very much Trump's, redacting information very much Trump's, some deadline
[05:15:35] in the statute.
[05:15:36] All right.
[05:15:37] Couple more, and we're almost out of time.
[05:15:38] I do want to ask you about Ghislaine Maxwell,
[05:15:40] who was, of course, convicted in 2021 for her role
[05:15:43] in helping Jeffrey Epstein traffic his victims.
[05:15:46] In July, you interviewed her in Florida,
[05:15:49] where she was serving a 20-year sentence
[05:15:51] in federal prison.
[05:15:53] Just a week later, Maxwell was moved
[05:15:55] to a more permissive prison camp in Texas.
[05:15:58] Why was she moved just days after
[05:16:01] you interviewed her, Mr. Blanche?
[05:16:03] So that's a Bureau of Prison Security issue that I will not talk about.
[05:16:10] Did you have anything to do with it?
[05:16:12] Did you have anything to do with it?
[05:16:16] Total coincidence. You see, total coincidence, okay?
[05:16:21] A lot of people are saying that we gave her a sweetheart deal here for not singing.
[05:16:32] And that is true. That is literally what happened.
[05:16:36] Let me finish. First of all, I am responsible for the Bureau of Prisons. So every decision that
[05:16:41] they make lands on my desk to the extent it needs to. But just let me talk about the security
[05:16:47] issue. At the time that I met Ms. Maxwell, there was a tremendous amount of scrutiny
[05:16:53] and publicity towards her and the institution she was in, she was suffering numerous and
[05:16:58] numerous threats against her life. So the BOP is not only responsible for putting people
[05:17:03] in jail and making sure they stay in jail, but also for their safety. And so she was
[05:17:08] moved. She was in federal prison. She was in federal prison before. She's in federal
[05:17:12] prison now. She's doing 20 years because she was convicted. And the fact that she
[05:17:16] was, she might be moved to another institution tomorrow if security requires it. And that's
[05:17:22] true of any federal inmate across this country.
[05:17:26] But as you know, survivors were outraged by all of this, especially the fact that she
[05:17:30] was moved.
[05:17:31] Why talk to Elaine Maxwell and not the survivors, Mr. Blanche?
[05:17:38] What you just said is completely false.
[05:17:40] We will talk to any survivor at any time, which is something that we have said from
[05:17:45] day one.
[05:17:46] But have you talked to them?
[05:17:48] Of course.
[05:17:49] The attorney, yes, the attorney, first of all, they have to want to speak with
[05:17:52] us.
[05:17:53] and I spoke with the victims rights group as recently as Thursday, okay, and if
[05:17:57] folks want to talk to us next week or the week after or in the coming months,
[05:18:01] they know how to get a hold of us and we will always talk to survivors and
[05:18:05] victims families. But just backing up to your question about Ms. Maxwell, nobody
[05:18:10] ever talked to her. Nobody ever asked her questions about what she knew. So
[05:18:14] when she said that she has- Yeah, she was lonely. No one knows what it's like
[05:18:21] To be a sad woman behind blue eyes. No one ever cared or considered her feelings in this.
[05:18:33] Many people immediately, in dare I say misogynistic ways, blamed the woman for the crimes of a man.
[05:18:43] Okay?
[05:18:51] It's called misogyny. Look it up. Something she wanted to say, not with saying the fact
[05:19:06] she had been convicted. Of course we wouldn't talk to her. Imagine if we didn't talk to
[05:19:10] her. Imagine if she had said, I have a story to tell and I would like to talk to the government.
[05:19:15] And I said, no. The same outrage would be directed at this department for not speaking
[05:19:20] with her. So we're trying to do our job here and we are doing our job here, but any victim
[05:19:26] that wants to talk to the FBI, that wants to talk to the Department of Justice, they
[05:19:30] can call us anytime. They're so bad. They're not even good at this, man. They literally
[05:19:41] decided to go and talk to Glenn Maxwell after everybody was like, why don't you
[05:19:46] release the fucking Epstein files? Are you a pedophile? What the hell is this?
[05:19:50] And then they went and talked to Glenn Maxwell in a closed door meeting.
[05:19:53] And the only takeaway from said meeting was, Glenn Maxwell said Donald Trump is a handsome
[05:19:58] man, the most handsome man to have ever existed.
[05:20:02] And he was a gentleman and also didn't know Jeffrey Epstein at all.
[05:20:08] And then the next day she was put into a lower security prison.
[05:20:15] What the fuck?
[05:20:16] What a crazy, what a crazy situation, oh wow, how fortuitous.
[05:20:33] I'm sure the lawyers for other child sex traffickers will be interested to learn that their client
[05:20:36] can get moved to a nicer prison if they're getting threatened in Gen Pop.
[05:20:40] I mean that is always, wait, what, I mean it's true that it, that is how, I mean
[05:20:46] it they don't get moved to a nicer prison but yes of course pedophiles do get threatened in prison
[05:20:53] it's the one group of people that all the other prisoners will go out and kill
[05:21:05] did i misunderstand uh what he was trying to say or is he saying that she's in gen pop in a nicer
[05:21:11] prison now? Because yeah, Chalmos, Chalmolestas don't get put in Jempop.
[05:21:25] Let me ask you, President Trump in September urged Attorney General Pam Bondi to prosecute
[05:21:30] former FBI Director James Comey, New York Attorney General Leticia James and Senator Adam Schiff,
[05:21:37] saying in the social media post that was supposed to be private quote they're all guilty as hell.
[05:21:43] Comey was indicted five days later. Does President Trump speak to you or to the Attorney General?
[05:21:50] Also the survivors say he's lying. You invited the president to meet with you.
[05:21:56] Have you heard anything from the White House? Crickets. I heard crickets.
[05:22:01] It's so you know, but that's the no, no, no, that's the White House.
[05:22:06] The survivors might have talked to top Blanche.
[05:22:08] Top Blanche didn't say the White House listened to the survivors.
[05:22:11] Top Blanche simply said that the Department of Justice
[05:22:14] listened to the survivors.
[05:22:15] Correctly about individual criminal cases and investigations.
[05:22:19] Mr. Blanche, I will never talk about the communications
[05:22:24] I have with President Trump, and I don't expect the terms
[05:22:26] on body will either.
[05:22:27] However, when it comes to the prosecutions that this
[05:22:30] department is undertaking, we are following the facts and the law, period.
[05:22:35] And so with the case of James Comey and he was indicted, the case was then dismissed by
[05:22:41] a judge because of an appointment's issue, we were already investigating, which was very
[05:22:47] much available to the public at the time that President Trump sent that note.
[05:22:51] And so the fact that we continue to investigate and ultimately he was indicted is not a
[05:22:56] reflection of what President Trump put in that truth as a reflection of the work that
[05:23:01] we're doing and have been doing.
[05:23:02] Okay, that's the most indefensible one.
[05:23:07] Like that, that one is literally.
[05:23:18] That one is so fucking crazy, dude.
[05:23:25] Actually everyone has admitted at this point, I think Donald Trump basically has admitted
[05:23:29] at this point that it was a political hit job.
[05:23:34] The courts seem to see it that way.
[05:23:37] I don't even understand what this man is trying to defend here.
[05:23:41] This is already established as a direct political attack.
[05:23:57] Why aren't these guys afraid of going to jail for defending Trump?
[05:23:59] Come on, brother.
[05:24:00] I don't even think that there is a post-trump universe that they're foreseeing at this point.
[05:24:15] Why do all the lords in King's Court continue to brutalize the masses
[05:24:22] without any fear of repercussions? Because he's the fucking king.
[05:24:26] Long before September.
[05:24:28] Just very quickly, career prosecutor Eric Sebert was fired after refusing to prosecute
[05:24:34] these cases against James Comey. He was replaced by Lindsay Halligan, of course the president's
[05:24:38] former personal lawyer who doesn't have prosecutorial experience, who was found to be
[05:24:43] unconstitutionally appointed. And the cases were thrown out, as you say, to be clear.
[05:24:49] Is the Justice Department taking directions about who to prosecute from President Trump?
[05:24:54] No, of course we're not. And also, this receiver wasn't fired because he refused to bring cases.
[05:25:03] He resigned, okay? And so, and this narrative out there that somehow he, it was because of
[05:25:08] James Colmey, it was because of Leticia James. No, that's not true at all. And Ms. Halligan
[05:25:13] went in there and did a great job. She's still doing a great job as our U.S. attorney
[05:25:17] in the EDVA. And you had a local judge, a rule that she was not validly appointed.
[05:25:22] We filed an appeal in that case.
[05:25:24] I expect that eventually when the appellate courts looks at this issue, we'll win that
[05:25:29] issue.
[05:25:30] All right, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch, thank you so much for being here today.
[05:25:34] We really appreciate it.
[05:25:36] Thank you.
[05:25:37] Thank you very much.
[05:25:38] We thank you for watching.
[05:25:39] And remember, stay updated on breaking news and top stories on the NBC News app or watch
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[05:25:45] Well, near this morning, some CBS News employees...
[05:25:49] No
[05:25:55] You're so obsessed with Trump this is when you quit this an Esmeralda buzzword buzzword buzzword bait bait bait you got me
[05:26:09] Easy clap cook my ass
[05:26:19] Dude, I know the 60 minutes got leaked. I know we're gonna watch it
[05:26:26] but what I do want to talk about before we move on to the Barry why 60 minutes thing which kind of
[05:26:32] also is another version of the the exact institutional rot that I'm gonna be talking about
[05:26:41] with respect to the DOJ is that what comes next like I know that
[05:26:49] I know that people are operating like there's no tomorrow, you know, everyone's having a great a grand old time
[05:27:01] But I feel like
[05:27:05] But we kind of need these institutions know I
[05:27:08] I just don't know what it looks like when they all, when universally the attitude is
[05:27:25] that basically every court and every facet of the every regulatory body, every facet
[05:27:34] of law enforcement is completely compromised. Because there is supposed to be established
[05:27:43] confidence in these institutions. Otherwise it doesn't work. Otherwise nothing works.
[05:27:49] Like we're leftist. Obviously we have a different understanding of the way police work. We
[05:27:54] always say, hey, look, police are serving the and protecting and serving not the interests
[05:28:01] the people, but protecting and serving the interest of capital, right? They're there to
[05:28:06] protect the wealthy. That's why, um, Marxists will say they're class traders. Although they
[05:28:14] are of working class background, their role and primary responsibility in society is to
[05:28:20] to protect capital owners, right?
[05:28:22] So, like that's my understanding,
[05:28:30] but I don't think that's commonly shared, right?
[05:28:33] I don't think there's a commonly shared perspective
[05:28:38] by a lot of other people.
[05:28:39] And that's kind of what keeps things together.
[05:28:43] I don't know what it would look like
[05:28:44] if everyone had that perspective.
[05:28:46] Now, outside of that, even with the courts
[05:28:51] and the way that they work,
[05:28:52] or even with law enforcement and the way that it works,
[05:28:54] like you have to have an established level
[05:29:01] of confidence in the veracity
[05:29:04] or in the serious nature of these regulatory bodies,
[05:29:10] the arms of law enforcement,
[05:29:13] because if that falls apart, the social fabric is destroyed.
[05:29:21] And in an interest, in an effort to make sure
[05:29:28] that this doesn't happen, these guys have to,
[05:29:30] every now and then, do good work, and they certainly do.
[05:29:35] Every now and then, you're reminded of a moment
[05:29:38] where even a cop actually engages in, you know,
[05:29:42] somewhat of a violent action and you're like, okay, that's valid. That's the reason why they're
[05:29:47] supposed to exist. Right? The example that I'm thinking of is that Walmart video that I saw of
[05:29:52] the 21 year old who just like pulls out a gun and luckily the gun jams and the cop immediately
[05:29:56] jumps on him and disarms him. Like that's a perfect example of a cop doing the right thing.
[05:30:02] He's being a cop in the right way, in the right moment. And, and that's like,
[05:30:07] Like that's like one of those or I think it was that wasn't a cop. Okay, whatever the
[05:30:14] security guy or something, like the security guy that jumped on top of the dude, right?
[05:30:21] Like that's a rare W. I think it is a cop by the way. I think I didn't see a badge,
[05:30:25] but maybe I'm wrong. It might have been a security, a mall cop, right?
[05:30:31] The point I'm trying to make is what happens when everyone collectively goes, well, the
[05:30:39] FBI is very clearly super biased.
[05:30:42] The Department of Justice is basically just working at the behest of Trump.
[05:30:54] And virtually all of the law enforcement arms of the government are tasked with kidnapping
[05:31:02] migrants, migrant workers, and none of them are doing the cop shit that they're supposed
[05:31:10] to be doing that legitimizes their existence, that justifies their existence, that justifies
[05:31:16] the tax dollars going to them.
[05:31:18] What do we do?
[05:31:21] What comes next?
[05:31:22] I don't know. I just don't think that it will be good for those super wealthy either, you
[05:31:31] know, because if you're like a super wealthy guy and you're looking at Trump and you're
[05:31:36] like, I'm just going to steal as much shit as I can as many resources as I can as though
[05:31:39] it's like the fall of the USSR is imminent. And you're like a KGB guy. And you're like,
[05:31:45] Well, you know, I've been talking to my, my, um, my Western contacts, Jeffrey sacks being
[05:31:53] one of them.
[05:31:54] I realized I need to just pick, uh, pick apart what remains of the government for scraps so
[05:31:59] I can, you know, be a power broker and what comes next.
[05:32:05] And I know a lot of rich people in America are basically operating in the same way, like
[05:32:09] the fall of the USSR, fall of American empire, they're looking at this situation
[05:32:14] And they're like, well, I guess I'll just like make as much money as I can.
[05:32:19] Right.
[05:32:22] But once the USSR does fall, you're kind of fucked.
[05:32:27] Like everything is fucked.
[05:32:29] Sure.
[05:32:29] There'll be some winners in the process as there were many of them.
[05:32:32] We know their names.
[05:32:33] They became what we know as oligarchs.
[05:32:37] Right.
[05:32:38] In Russia, but.
[05:32:41] But there were very few of them.
[05:32:44] And the impact of the dissolution of the USSR was incredibly, it was devastating.
[05:32:52] They basically were doing the fucking purge all the time.
[05:32:56] There was like child prostitution, rates of suicide, skyrocketed.
[05:33:01] Is that even a country that you want to live in at that point?
[05:33:06] Do you want to rule over a throne of skulls?
[05:33:10] or is it fine to keep things stable and maybe lower your profit margin a little bit. Move
[05:33:23] to Israel. I mean, many of them did. This is true. Many of them did do that, Secretary
[05:33:28] Vantifa. But even look at Israel. Israel sucks too. Speaking of which, as far as diminishing
[05:33:45] credibility of previously respected institutions, let's talk about CBS News. As you guys know,
[05:33:52] So CBS News was purchased by David Ellison, Larry Ellison's son.
[05:34:01] And part of the reason why it was purchased is so that Barry Weiss could command CBS News
[05:34:10] to be more pro-Trump than it already was, and certainly a shit ton more pro-Israel
[05:34:16] than it already was, and it was really fucking pro-Israel.
[05:34:20] One of the tasks that Barrywise had directly was to command 60 minutes as editor-in-chief.
[05:34:30] Her job is to dictate how 60 minutes conducts his interviews, conducts his investigations.
[05:34:38] It was directly a part of the job, right?
[05:34:42] And I'm going to talk about her statement since then because it came out and it's
[05:34:46] worthy of covering, but basically 60 minutes was supposed to release a story on Trump's
[05:35:01] deportees, specifically the ones that got deported to Seacot, the El Salvador slave labor prison.
[05:35:09] It's been leaked and we'll be watching it because they still released it in Canada.
[05:35:25] But before we do that, let's look at the story.
[05:35:28] Boys are threatening to quit amid fears of corporate censorship.
[05:35:32] That's after the network abruptly pulled a 60 minutes investigation hours before it
[05:35:36] was set to air last night.
[05:35:38] The segment would have brought viewers
[05:35:40] the stories of Venezuelan deportees
[05:35:42] sent to El Salvador's notorious prison.
[05:35:45] CBS says that it was still going to air it,
[05:35:48] but that it needs more reporting.
[05:35:50] Let's go live now to see an in-cheap media analyst,
[05:35:52] Brian Stelter.
[05:35:55] This is really a severe blow,
[05:35:58] it seems to the network's credibility here.
[05:36:00] What are you hearing from journalists there, Brian?
[05:36:03] I think that's accurate.
[05:36:04] This is a blow to credibility.
[05:36:06] Whether it's pretty funny,
[05:36:07] is everybody fucking hates her. Like, why wouldn't you hate her? Why would you not hate her? If
[05:36:14] you are a lifelong career reporter, journalist, editor, producer, whatever, okay, and you
[05:36:25] suck the mountain of dicks, okay, every day is a climb on Dick Mountain and you're sucking
[05:36:30] Okay, and then Barry Weiss who objectively suck less dicks, but the right kind of dicks
[05:36:38] Gets one on you and now she's commanding the entire franchise. You're like, what do you mean?
[05:36:47] I've been climbing dick suck mountain every goddamn day you mean to tell me
[05:36:52] That you could helicopter your way to the top because you sucked one cock. That's bullshit
[05:37:00] And then also obviously there's people that are doing good work as well, but like
[05:37:15] Say metaphorical digs just to be safe. Yeah, of course, I'm talking about not real dicks. I'm saying that you just have to
[05:37:22] You have to
[05:37:24] consistently put in work and brown nose and, you know, say certain things, not say certain
[05:37:30] things in this like tumultuous job environment, you know, it's chaotic.
[05:37:37] And then Barry wise is just sucking up the billionaires and then boom, she becomes
[05:37:41] your boss, even though her career is riddled with L's and hypocrisy and inconsistencies
[05:37:48] and not a lot of good content in the process either.
[05:37:52] Okay.
[05:37:54] got to be shitty. She kept failing upwards. Why? Because she sucked up to billionaires.
[05:38:02] And that's all this is. She has the charisma of a moribund snail. Exactly. Yeah, reminder
[05:38:13] that Barry Wise never read a journalist ever. She has spent her short career on the opinion
[05:38:17] side only. And before that, she was a college kid trying to get Palestinian teachers
[05:38:21] So of course she sees a 60-minute episode. She doesn't like it just spikes it
[05:38:27] The amount of resentment that real journalists and even journalists who are
[05:38:32] Careerists have for Barry Weiss is endless. Okay
[05:38:38] In an industry where there's a lot of fucking vultures sharks and also really solid reporters
[05:38:44] Barry Weiss is
[05:38:46] universally despised, right?
[05:38:49] You're already getting clipped for hating women, what?
[05:38:51] I don't know what you're talking about.
[05:38:54] But it's true, I do.
[05:38:56] Um, Barry Weiss is universally despised.
[05:39:00] For a good reason, because she has no redeemable quality, like,
[05:39:04] like she has no stage presence, she's not charismatic at all,
[05:39:08] she doesn't actually have an eye for talent,
[05:39:10] contrary to what Ezra Klein claimed,
[05:39:12] which again as recline what the fuck are you doing man Jesus Christ he is just a
[05:39:19] like he finds himself always on the wrong side of every argument like it like
[05:39:24] professionally it's crazy to me anyway but yeah everybody fucking hates her and
[05:39:32] you know mostly for good reason
[05:39:37] So, and these guys love yapping, okay?
[05:39:44] If you know anything about media figures, they love talking to one another, okay?
[05:39:48] They're gossips.
[05:39:49] Maybe that's the reason why they found themselves in this field.
[05:39:55] So, given Barry Weiss' tendency to fuck things up because she's just awful at her job,
[05:40:04] I mean, it's a really horrible media environment for her.
[05:40:07] She is just going to get constantly daggers over and over and over again from respected
[05:40:13] reporters all the way down to the biggest careerists who are somewhat jealous that they didn't
[05:40:19] suck the right dicks, right?
[05:40:20] They sucked the wrong ones.
[05:40:23] Lower level dicks on Dicksuck Mountain.
[05:40:25] They're not the piece actually airs in the future and Editor-in-Chief Barry Weiss
[05:40:29] is saying to the staff this morning, this segment will air when it's ready.
[05:40:33] here's what's odd about the situation. We can walk through the timeline and I think it'll show
[05:40:39] how this doesn't really add up. Correspondent Sharon Alfonzi had been working on this segment
[05:40:43] for weeks. She interviewed some of these deportees who described torturous conditions
[05:40:48] at Sikot, that prison in El Salvador. I do want to mention something else here though but like
[05:40:55] it is objectively funny that this is coming off the heels of one very wise going on a
[05:40:59] conference and going viral for saying, my job is to deplatform Tucker Carlson,
[05:41:04] Hasan Piker, Nick Fuentes, Andrew Tate, okay, for being anti-Semitic and instead
[05:41:10] put up voices that Americans are craving to hear from, like Alan Dershowitz
[05:41:15] and Dana Loesch. Everybody laughed at that. They were like, you're fucking
[05:41:19] idiot. Okay. And then she was like, Oh, I have a idea. I have a banger idea.
[05:41:28] We're going to do a town hall with Erica Kirk, the only other person that is as uncharismatic
[05:41:34] as fucking Barry Weiss on camera.
[05:41:38] And then that flopped.
[05:41:40] And then this.
[05:41:42] It's just L after L after L for Barry.
[05:41:48] Which of course, like her job isn't to actually make people watch her content.
[05:41:54] Don't be ridiculous.
[05:41:55] That's just what they put down in the paper.
[05:42:00] That's what they put down as their primary job, but it's not.
[05:42:05] Her job is to make CBS News by force more pro-Israel and more pro-Trump, more pliant.
[05:42:14] I think the very fact that she is incompetent and bad at her job makes it funnier.
[05:42:20] Yeah, oh, this is you've never seen this before just because it never fails to amuse here's
[05:42:27] Barry Weiss's bust that she had installed in tribute to herself by the front doors of
[05:42:32] her fake university. Once again, you might be asking yourself, how is she so industrious?
[05:42:40] How is she so good she has a fucking fake on accredited university? How is that possible?
[05:42:45] the University of Austin. It's because she sucked the right dicks. That's it. That's
[05:42:54] it. Obviously, this is analogy. I'm not being serious about, you know, sucking on actual
[05:43:01] you know, hard penises or whatever. But like she sucked up to the right billionaires.
[05:43:06] That's it. That's it. That's literally all this is. And in some ways I think in some
[05:43:14] ways, I think it's almost like the billionaires basically saying like, hey, if you suck, Rdx
[05:43:25] will elevate you too.
[05:43:31] You understand?
[05:43:35] As Ted says, the free press is one of the least curious media outlets on earth.
[05:43:39] Every article is a collection of anecdotes that adds up to their priors.
[05:43:42] no new info or reporting that would challenge their audience. If you fell for
[05:43:46] Weiss's edgy journal act, it's likely because you wanted to. It's not because of the work.
[05:43:56] You could stop using sex as a metaphor or closing up the rule is to gross and frat boy
[05:44:00] behavior. I can't stop myself. I'm gross and fratty.
[05:44:03] Kiss the right ass is the more elegant way to say it. Yeah
[05:44:11] true
[05:44:13] I'm just kidding.
[05:44:29] Remember when Ellison bought FreePress and to maintain the fiction that it was a savvy
[05:44:32] business decision rather than him turning CBS News into an ideological play toy everyone
[05:44:36] had to refer to Barry Wess as a reporter in the FreePress as a news outlet despite
[05:44:41] them clearly never being either.
[05:44:43] Brian Stalter himself did this. David Ellison has been tight-lipped about his vision for
[05:44:50] CBS News, so his interest in the Free Press is a significant signal about his plan to
[05:44:53] invest in reporting and analysis. To which Adam Jowes will reply with,
[05:44:57] Brian, please tell us what reporting the Free Press has done. Sending whiny lunatics
[05:45:02] to troll Gaza protesters, harassing trans youth and their families? What actual
[05:45:05] news story have they ever broken, ever, genuinely?
[05:45:08] Question I'd love to hear you answer.
[05:45:13] Um, people policing how elegant your language is, uh, when these guys are attempting a fascist
[05:45:23] takeover of the country is hilarious.
[05:45:25] Come on, people.
[05:45:26] No, I think it's important for everyone to have, uh, their priorities set and dialed
[05:45:31] in on sanitizing language.
[05:45:41] because now that when the clips come out tomorrow of my toxic misogyny, those guys will come
[05:45:47] back in here and say, I told you so, and they're right.
[05:45:50] They'll be like, hey, the second coming of Himmler presented this omega viral Twitter
[05:45:59] clip compilation of you being a misogynist.
[05:46:03] And I happen to agree with the Himmler-Groeper 1488 on the Adolf Hitler website, Twitter,
[05:46:11] now known as X, because I'm a Maoist, Third Worldist, and you are every actionary.
[05:46:21] Look, look, look, look, you will not understand.
[05:46:26] There being a fascist thing over happening is not a green light to just ignore your
[05:46:29] own progress, my guy.
[05:46:33] I like that you know you're going to be here tomorrow to do this when it happens, and I'm
[05:46:37] excited to yell at you and block you, and then have Asmongold also use you as a point
[05:46:41] of propaganda with another 2 million view video where he's like, Husson's own audience
[05:46:47] is turning on him.
[05:46:49] Can you believe how gross and misogynistic he is?
[05:46:58] Shatter kind of right?
[05:46:59] Guys, this is how it always goes.
[05:47:01] This is how it always goes.
[05:47:03] no matter what.
[05:47:12] What up?
[05:47:16] Woke 2, is it never happening this way?
[05:47:34] Anyway
[05:47:42] So woke still dead
[05:47:47] No, it's not it's coming back because I think
[05:47:52] I
[05:47:54] Think at the end of the day
[05:47:56] I think by and large many people find it way more repulsive the unrestrained bigotry that
[05:48:17] they're seeing everywhere.
[05:48:20] I think most people wouldn't hear what I'm talking about here and go, wow, this guy's
[05:48:24] attitude is really gross, but they do actually feel that way about the ways in which people
[05:48:35] present themselves now online, especially on Twitter and shit, is disgusting.
[05:48:39] The Trump administration has been sending migrants too.
[05:48:42] So these interviews were in the can, they were edited, this segment was ready to go
[05:48:45] according to producers, editors, fact checkers, and even the lawyers who reviewed the
[05:48:50] segment.
[05:48:51] of Friday, this was ready to go.
[05:48:53] And that's significant because on Thursday night,
[05:48:55] editor-in-chief Barry Weiss was able to screen it
[05:48:57] for the first time.
[05:48:58] I'm told she had some concerns,
[05:48:59] but there was a sort of an assessment
[05:49:02] that the piece was gonna move forward.
[05:49:04] On Friday afternoon, this broadcast was publicized.
[05:49:06] It was promoted ahead of time.
[05:49:08] Alfonso's segment was announced to the public.
[05:49:10] That was also funny about it.
[05:49:11] They like literally promoted it.
[05:49:14] Barry Weiss, once again, should've just released this,
[05:49:17] right?
[05:49:21] Barry rushes just released this it would not have been a fucking story. I mean it would have been you know bad for the administration
[05:49:29] But now that she actually
[05:49:32] tried to stop
[05:49:35] Now that she actually tried to stop this unsuccessfully it's turned into a story in and of itself
[05:49:43] It got more attention
[05:49:45] And it got fucking leaked and they had already cut a trailer for it. Like why would you do that?
[05:49:52] You're so stupid
[05:49:55] But of course you're stupid because you were not promoted to the position of prominence that you got
[05:50:01] Because of your efficiency or because of your output or because of the work you put in you got there because you
[05:50:07] Didn't climb dick mountain the right way as everybody else did. Okay, you didn't put time. You got a Sherpa
[05:50:16] You got a helicopter ride to the top
[05:50:21] That's it you didn't kiss the right asses
[05:50:25] Or sorry you kissed
[05:50:28] You know the the best of asses and not all of the asses on your way up
[05:50:40] Oh my god, rainy draws a lot
[05:50:42] I mean saying a woman's like digs to get to a position. First of all, Barry wise is not even a straight woman. Okay
[05:50:47] and
[05:50:48] Secondly, we're not even talking about just Barry wise. We're talking about
[05:50:53] Virtually everyone that kiss asses if you don't want me to say dick-sucking and last but not least
[05:50:59] Once again metaphor metaphor euphemism euphemism for brown-nosing. Okay, when I say I fucked your mom
[05:51:05] That doesn't mean I like literally raped your mother. Okay
[05:51:08] Please stop doing this. Okay? I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. As soon as I, oh god, as soon as I fucking noticed one, of course there is going to be a million other people in the chat that are now piling on as well.
[05:51:25] instead of kissing ass 30% of the time and grinding 70% of the time she invented the
[05:51:41] true meta of becoming the head of reporting outlet report 0% of the time and kiss ass
[05:51:46] 100% of the time and it's not all the it's not the ass of the immediate bosses the
[05:51:49] right asses you kiss the right asses you get elevated that's the whole point and
[05:51:54] And that's precisely the reason why she's so fucking incompetent.
[05:52:01] Okay?
[05:52:04] Look, and yet on Saturday morning, Weiss weighed in with additional concerns.
[05:52:11] And I'm told, according to sources, she was especially concerned about the lack of a
[05:52:15] Trump administration response to the reporting.
[05:52:18] Now, Alfonsoy says in an interview- How many backdrops would you take for $100K,
[05:52:22] though?
[05:52:23] If it's 100k per backshot, we already discussed this. It's unlimited. Okay, I will take all the backshots on the planet is so stupid
[05:52:31] Infinite unlimited all the backshots
[05:52:35] Come on now
[05:52:37] Endless endless backshots. If it's 100k per pump, I'm taking all the pumps. Okay. I'm the gas station now bitch
[05:52:46] The internal memo that waiting for a response is unrealistic because it's clear the Trump
[05:52:52] administration did not want to respond to these allegations.
[05:52:55] She said, I want to pull up the quote here, their refusal to be interviewed was a tactical
[05:52:59] maneuver designed to kill the story.
[05:53:01] If the administration's refusal to participate becomes a valid reason to spike a story, we've
[05:53:06] effectively handed them a kill switch for any reporting they find inconvenient.
[05:53:10] So that's the view from the 60 Minutes Reporting Team.
[05:53:13] The piece was ready to go.
[05:53:14] It was in the can.
[05:53:15] be broadcast on Sunday, but all of a sudden over the weekend,
[05:53:17] Weiss decided to shelve it, and that has created a real uproar
[05:53:21] inside CBS News with widespread concerns about political
[05:53:24] meddling and about corporate interference.
[05:53:26] All of this coming as CBS's parent company Paramount
[05:53:29] both tries to ingratiate itself with the Trump
[05:53:31] administration and tries a hostile takeover bid for this
[05:53:34] network's parent company, Warner Brothers Discovery.
[05:53:37] I mean, and it comes as President Trump has really
[05:53:39] been ratcheting up his criticism of 60 Minutes.
[05:53:42] the police. I think that's
[05:53:44] the only way to get to the
[05:53:45] police. I mean, I think
[05:53:46] that's the only way to get to
[05:53:47] the police. Tell us more about
[05:53:49] that and the timing of this.
[05:53:50] Yes, that's right, and that is
[05:53:52] the essential context here. You
[05:53:53] know, when paramount changed
[05:53:55] hands earlier this serious
[05:53:56] question. What do all the
[05:53:57] language police chatters do
[05:53:58] when Star Wars comes on
[05:53:59] stream? They kill themselves.
[05:54:02] Like they literally. They just
[05:54:03] we've probably lost so many
[05:54:06] brave 40 month warriors who
[05:54:08] have immediately grabbed the
[05:54:10] officer service weapon after
[05:54:12] You used to use the R word and didn't realize the effect it has on people with disabilities
[05:54:28] that actually get called on a daily basis, but you learn from that, imagine you reacted
[05:54:31] this way to a chatter calling out back then, yeah, because not everything is the same.
[05:54:37] This is not a valid one, it's an invalid one, because I'm not saying that like, she has
[05:54:43] a career because she literally fucked her way to the top, okay?
[05:54:47] If I meant it literally, it would be understandable.
[05:54:49] I'm simply using a different term for ass-kissing.
[05:54:53] It's analogous.
[05:54:54] And when I say ass-kissing, no one I assume assumes that I mean like literally tossing
[05:55:00] someone's salad and eating someone's asshole in order to, you know, advance.
[05:55:07] That's the difference, okay?
[05:55:09] And I still use substitute terms for the R word as do you as do many other people, okay?
[05:55:18] There will always be a need for pejoratives in language, okay?
[05:55:25] This kind of language policing, especially when it's utilized improperly, is very frustrating.
[05:55:41] If you can't understand how that language increases the risk of violence towards women
[05:55:44] that I don't know if we're on the same side, honestly, sounds hypocritical and unaware,
[05:55:48] we're not.
[05:55:51] We're not on the same side.
[05:55:52] We're not.
[05:55:54] I don't think you understand.
[05:55:55] We are not on the same side. We're on the same side as long as you just, you know, shut
[05:55:58] the fuck up and you're like, Hey, you know, I appreciate, I appreciate you, you know, defending
[05:56:03] certain things on principle. But if this is like, so your edgy joke matters more than
[05:56:09] people safety.
[05:56:11] All right, it's time to ban people.
[05:56:17] Yes.
[05:56:19] Yes. The answer is yes.
[05:56:29] Also, this is precisely the reason why people like Nick Fuentes will consistently pop off.
[05:56:35] This is precisely the reason why people like Asmongole will continue to pop off.
[05:56:38] People like Adam Ross will continue to pop off.
[05:56:40] And a lot of you insufferable, a lot of you insufferable morons who think that
[05:56:46] the sanitization of language, not to like a understandable degree where we are harmonious
[05:56:53] here, but to a degree where it's like actually so clinical that it becomes boring, the utilization
[05:57:01] of any sort of analogy or any sort of embellished language is now seen as like the worst grievance.
[05:57:10] Okay, the worst point of normalizing violence, all of this stuff is not only incredibly unproductive,
[05:57:24] but it's also useless.
[05:57:26] It's utterly useless.
[05:57:38] He's right.
[05:57:39] woman but you said suck dick instead of kiss ass and now I'm going to become a serial killer that's
[05:57:43] on you exactly. They can clip the past 10 minutes and get an hour of laughter material for their
[05:57:50] audience yes and they will continue to do so and most of us will continue to look silly but hey
[05:57:57] guess what there will be at least 15 banger tiktoks that come out of this and this will move
[05:58:05] discourse on the unproductive left on TikTok for at least a week.
[05:58:34] If we want to defeat capitalism, we are going to need a party that will organize working
[05:58:38] people to fight for the demands of-
[05:58:40] I've never met people like this, except in the shadow, or if you believe these shadows
[05:58:44] are real, yeah, no.
[05:58:45] Like, I think the byproduct of being extremely online, on the right, makes people into,
[05:58:51] like, vicious propaganda monsters, and they're so fucking effective at, like, undermining
[05:58:56] their ideological opponents.
[05:58:57] They never go outside, but they have the capacity to even move real world events by causing
[05:59:05] incidents online.
[05:59:08] The very same shut in style leftist extremely online behavior unfortunately leads to targeting
[05:59:18] and attacking other people on the left.
[05:59:23] It's very strange.
[05:59:25] we want and to win socialism. Thank you so much.
[05:59:29] Quick point of privilege, quick point of personal privilege. Guys,
[05:59:33] first of all, James Jackson, Sacramento, he, him, I just want to say
[05:59:37] can we please keep the chatter to a minimum. I'm one of the people who's very, very prone to
[05:59:41] sensory overload. There's a lot of whispering and chatter going on. It's making it very difficult for
[05:59:45] me to focus. Please, can we just, I know it's raw fresh and ready to go, but can we
[05:59:49] please just keep the chatter to a minimum. It's affecting my ability to focus. Thank you.
[05:59:53] Okay, is there a speaker against name or chapter privilege point of personal privilege? Yes, please do not use gendered language to to address everyone
[06:00:09] A lot of fake feminists slash men
[06:00:11] Fake feminist men such activists like to pray small shit like PC language so they look less fake when they bitch out on real activism. Yeah
[06:00:16] This is offline chat by the way. I mean, I don't know. I feel like it's online chat
[06:00:25] It's more so online chat that is offline chat. I don't think we learned the lessons from woke one and are set up to make the same mistakes in woke 2
[06:00:34] Yeah, there's also like no no nuance or no context
[06:00:40] Right? It's just like it's all or nothing. Anyway, let's continue.
[06:00:47] Here, Trump praised the new owners, David Allison and his father, Larry.
[06:00:51] The backshots bit would have been a two hour discourse on stream compared to
[06:00:54] fear. And yeah, it's like, um, there's this TikToker.
[06:01:00] There's this TikToker that does this very funny thing where he,
[06:01:04] he will make jokes about like, uh, you know, the Minecraft era. Let me see if I can find it.
[06:01:09] But the Minecraft era woke, uh, like discord conversations, and I'm always, I always feel like
[06:01:18] my, you know, everything that I do basically as a Twitch streamer is having to deal with those
[06:01:23] kinds of chatters every day, non-fucking stop. And he totally fucking nails the, uh, the
[06:01:32] me, me, me ass. I forget where it is. I'm gonna try, I'm gonna try to see if I can find one.
[06:01:37] I feel like I liked it. I like some of his tiktoks a while back
[06:01:53] Or it's like he plays like numerous characters in a discord server
[06:01:59] Oh my fucking god, you still sending me Instagram reels, bro. Stop
[06:02:03] Stop. Stop sending me Instagram reels. Send me the TikTok version of it, please. I don't
[06:02:08] want to. Is it the Marley Superior Discord server guy? I love him so much. Yes. Yes.
[06:02:17] Trigger warning about the engagement reactionary propaganda that makes you feel kind of silly
[06:02:22] if this is, if you're in this TikTok, you are not going to like it. Your worst quality
[06:02:30] is hating instagram reels is this it no this is not it not now mom I just joined a match
[06:02:49] with the gathering discord server so anyways I tried to play commander for the first time
[06:02:53] yesterday and it was really fun I recommend it yeah I got to get out of the house and
[06:02:58] find a new playgroup. That makes me
[06:03:00] uncomfortable. Can we please get a
[06:03:01] trigger warning on anything related to
[06:03:03] going outside? I have agoraphobia and
[06:03:06] can't leave the house. Hope this helps.
[06:03:08] By the way, in my experience, this doesn't
[06:03:10] actually help people understand where
[06:03:12] I'm coming from. It makes them even
[06:03:13] more mad because they'll say, well, I
[06:03:15] don't really care about whatever
[06:03:16] they're presenting here and you're
[06:03:17] actually diluting and belittling a
[06:03:19] very important cause, which is misogyny.
[06:03:22] Not understanding that I am not
[06:03:25] actually under my misogyny. I'm
[06:03:28] saying that your understanding of combating misogyny is akin to this person.
[06:03:35] While we do our best to be a welcoming server, this request is simply impossible considering
[06:03:41] Magic has a lot of outdoor related cards.
[06:03:43] Actually, I banned outdoor related cards from my commander group.
[06:03:46] It's really that simple to be more accommodating to your community.
[06:03:50] Your therapy speech will not be tolerated here.
[06:03:53] No offense for you seem really exhausting to be around.
[06:03:55] You've only sent two messages and my social battery has already been depleted.
[06:03:59] Please don't say battery!
[06:04:01] My abusive daddy used to put 13 AAA batteries in a sock and beat me with it.
[06:04:05] You're being very problematic.
[06:04:07] Slash serious?
[06:04:08] Not the trauma dump.
[06:04:09] Sorry, I don't see an event channel in the Discord.
[06:04:12] It's Loki giving ableism.
[06:04:13] I'm Loki getting tired of you using clear identities and diction to get your way.
[06:04:18] You capitalize on the suffering of others with your mannerisms.
[06:04:22] only hope to rectify this mistake is by leaving this discord server and watching Steven Universe.
[06:04:28] Oh, that's not... that's a good idea. Steven Universe is my favorite queer literature. It's
[06:04:33] actually very problematic to assume I'm queer. You need to deal with your internalized homophobia
[06:04:39] and reflect on the way you type to others without proper tone indicators. I can't tell if you're
[06:04:43] being negative or if you're being lighthearted. We're not against tone indicators or anything
[06:04:48] By the way, you can just I'm studying to be a more annoying chatter. Thanks for putting me on
[06:05:01] See the difference here is that that video was funny. You're just slinging low-tier misogyny
[06:05:06] Yeah, no totally this video is not making fun of you at all
[06:05:18] What you were doing was activism this video is just making fun of you. I mean not making
[06:05:27] in front of you. Sorry. If you can't comprehend what a metaphor is and think that the peak
[06:05:44] of activism is derailing a conversation that we're having about how someone who is specifically
[06:05:52] tasked after a career of failing upwards, specifically tasked with making CBS more pro
[06:06:02] Israel and more pro Trump and having the last like 25 minutes, having the last 25 minutes
[06:06:11] center around this conversation that combustible lemon started, which I haven't banned yet.
[06:06:17] Okay. And how this was actually productive. This was productive activism for you.
[06:06:27] I'll never understand it. Any question? I actually think you can make progress if you
[06:06:34] just assume that something that challenges your previous belief is someone being disingenuous
[06:06:37] and uh woker than now great great question okay i've been doing this for the past 12 years
[06:06:50] do you feel like there haven't been instances where i went you know what that's actually right
[06:06:59] is there any any instance here where this isn't is there any instances here
[06:07:06] People stop using the s-word short for Schizophrenia Schizo, which is the word for medical diagnosis
[06:07:11] when referring to someone being friction-destructed in their behavior that's things that people
[06:07:14] with a condition do not act like it.
[06:07:16] Forget about the people on reddit or tiktok where it'd be ingenious for a moment and
[06:07:18] actually consider the effect of language in this space.
[06:07:22] Oh my God.
[06:07:28] Do you feel like you might have a tendency by a character trait?
[06:07:36] Genuinely.
[06:07:39] I'm seriously asking, do you feel like you might have a character trait where you have a hard time making friends with people because this is how you operate?
[06:07:50] I don't know if this happens in right wing circles at all, but there is this thing that
[06:08:05] chatters have in their minds where they're like, no, I'm gonna fuck this shit up.
[06:08:08] I'm gonna drop a bomb in this bitch.
[06:08:11] Generally, can you stop fucking engaging with this phrase?
[06:08:15] Generally anti-social people?
[06:08:16] No, the reason why I don't want to stop engaging with these people is because I want
[06:08:19] make sure that they just stop doing this. Like, I think people think I'm doing this because,
[06:08:28] well, first of all, I am busted in the brain, okay? I have a serious mental illness where when I
[06:08:38] see something that I consider to be like bad behavior for organizing or bad behavior in general,
[06:08:43] for like, for how people present themselves,
[06:08:49] I can't stop or call it out.
[06:08:50] I can't stop myself from calling it out.
[06:08:53] Like people who say like, this is literally assault.
[06:08:55] Like what you are just describing
[06:08:57] is actually normalizing the death
[06:08:58] and destruction of insert group of people, right?
[06:09:05] Like people that have a very black and white understanding
[06:09:07] but very black and white approach to this sort of thing
[06:09:09] that make the entire conversation revolve around whatever their own personal demands are.
[06:09:27] The reason why I call it out is because it's much simpler to just fucking ban them and move on,
[06:09:31] and then it doesn't become a major point of connection, and then you don't have opportunists
[06:09:35] who will then, a week after, you know, spending their entire week being like,
[06:09:40] Hassan has a serious problem with insert this form of bigotry.
[06:09:44] We'll then turn around and make videos and I see it all the time.
[06:09:47] Why can't the left organize? Why can't the left ever actually win prominence in,
[06:09:53] you know, when we have all the right ideas, like when all of our opinions are good,
[06:09:59] why can't we get people to fucking hear us out? I don't know because you're fucking annoying.
[06:10:03] that's it and the reason why I do behave like this the reason why I do this is
[06:10:19] because I hope for every like I don't know for every like hundred chatter that
[06:10:27] sees this as an opportunity to be like well it's time for it's time for the
[06:10:32] daily lashings again right but I do see what you're doing you're trying to shame
[06:10:38] the behavior exactly I'm just trying to fucking put a mirror on that sort of
[06:10:43] behavior because the number one rule in this community has always been be
[06:10:49] fucking normal okay be cool be normal be cool be normal be cool be normal
[06:10:54] and I'll never stop doing that I'll never stop trying to get people to
[06:11:00] be cool and be normal because you don't want to come across like this and we can
[06:11:04] add them to the end of our messages but unfortunately you're very argumentative
[06:11:08] and it seems a little purposeful I am going to remove you from this discord
[06:11:12] never mind mom I got time to shower now not now mom I just joined the
[06:11:16] magic the gathering discord server so anyway I think it will work long term
[06:11:24] but it's gonna be painful it's not that painful we just yell it we just yell
[06:11:28] every, we yell for like 35 minutes every day. And then people make content out of it. And I think
[06:11:36] in the process, some people, some people learn, some people realize like, okay, this is a shameful
[06:11:42] attitude or shameful way to operate. Other people think I'm more hardened in my position.
[06:11:50] You know, I'm more hardened than ever before a typical man doesn't understand all this stuff.
[06:11:55] when in fact the analogy being deployed here has nothing to do with like has
[06:12:05] nothing to do with undermining all women that have advanced in their careers as
[06:12:11] like simply having simply changing sexual favors. I'm talking about a very
[06:12:17] specific person who doesn't even have sex with men and not even just a very
[06:12:23] one specific person, very wise, but all people working in all sectors across the board that
[06:12:30] engage in the same kind of ass kissing behavior. And it's pretty clear what I'm saying, but
[06:12:36] you misunderstood it, and then you made it everybody else's problem. Okay.
[06:12:50] are climbing. In any case, let's get back to the main story. He described them as friends
[06:13:03] and supporters. Trump was very excited to have CBS moving into new hands. But two weeks
[06:13:08] ago, Trump changed his tunes. He started to criticize. Look, we moved on. We moved on.
[06:13:12] But nope, some people want to still go back. I don't know why you're calling it able to
[06:13:15] say there's a problem in this chat. It's not annoying. It's actually informative.
[06:13:18] I'm just acknowledging you can change your language to be more friendly to people with disabilities,
[06:13:22] an area where you can be more open-minded.
[06:13:25] You're right.
[06:13:29] You're right.
[06:13:33] I will listen and I will learn.
[06:13:36] I'm listening and I'm learning.
[06:13:38] I apologize.
[06:13:41] I apologize to everyone that I have offended with the language that I used.
[06:13:48] I promise to do better tomorrow.
[06:14:07] Let's continue.
[06:14:08] And 60 minutes specifically, Trump at first was mad about an interview with Marjorie
[06:14:13] Taylor Greene that aired on the broadcast.
[06:14:16] We know Trump cares a lot about 60 minutes, and we know he's been railing against both
[06:14:19] the broadcast and the new owners of Paramount.
[06:14:22] At the same time, these owners need regulatory approval for their future aspirations to grow
[06:14:27] the company.
[06:14:28] So that is the political context for the story.
[06:14:30] Now I'm told by sources at CBS that Barry Weiss became more personally involved at
[06:14:34] 60 minutes in the past couple of weeks.
[06:14:36] But she said to Safras this morning, the story simply was not ready for air yet.
[06:14:40] It was not ready to go.
[06:14:42] More reporting must be done.
[06:14:44] Frankly, I'm not hearing many supporters.
[06:14:45] And brothers, is this your first time
[06:14:48] I'm being fucking sarcastic, take head.
[06:14:51] And I will continue to do exactly what I'm doing.
[06:14:53] If you don't like it, if you don't like the style,
[06:14:54] then it's not a substantive critique.
[06:14:58] It's a style critique.
[06:14:59] A lot of people think style critique
[06:15:00] is the only kind of critique that matters.
[06:15:03] Okay.
[06:15:07] It's one of the biggest issues
[06:15:08] is people mistaking a a tonal critique or a stylistic critique for substantive critique.
[06:15:20] Yes, I'm hearing a lot of criticism about this decision, but you know what's happened, Pam. A
[06:15:24] lot more people are suddenly interested in the story, right? A lot more people suddenly want to
[06:15:29] know more about what these detainees have said they've gone through. So this is one of the
[06:15:34] the situations where the controversy, the scandal is actually
[06:15:37] as ironic as to this, we were trying to help people understand
[06:15:40] why you shouldn't use the R word. Now people are wokes,
[06:15:41] golden year on able to sign with so fucking while we're
[06:15:43] keeping doing it. Yeah, because those guys also don't want me
[06:15:47] to use psychotic or they don't want me to say sociopath. Like
[06:15:54] there is there is a a there's a different level of sanitize
[06:16:03] language for everyone. Like accommodation, accommodation is
[06:16:08] supposed to be made for the broadest subsets of society. Okay.
[06:16:16] Yes, there are people who at the peak of woke were going so far as
[06:16:22] to even like get mad about people using the term stupid.
[06:16:25] There have been numerous waves of this kind of shit throughout
[06:16:28] the last 10 years that I've been doing this and I haven't
[06:16:32] fucking eat in the bait. There were, I think a lot of you guys are new. So you don't remember
[06:16:37] when people will come in and scold me for not saying Latin X. Okay.
[06:16:42] We just got to, you just got to keep making jokes and move on. Okay. There are people
[06:16:52] who were, who constantly tried to pull me into the conversation about like, like, um,
[06:16:59] What the fuck was it at Pete Wogue, it was a Neo pronouns.
[06:17:06] Neo pronouns, people being like, oh, why won't like, what's up with Neo pronouns, what's
[06:17:11] your thoughts on Neo pronouns and I was like, nah, I'm not touching that with a 10-foot
[06:17:15] pole, okay.
[06:17:19] And there was never a moment where I entertained that shit because I was like, I'm sorry,
[06:17:23] I'm gonna be as woke as I possibly can, but there's a limit to how woke I can
[06:17:27] be.
[06:17:28] Okay.
[06:17:29] I'm not going to do silly shit that makes me sound fucking silly and look fucking silly.
[06:17:36] Law, this is what's getting clipped.
[06:17:40] No, but that's all that's the whole point.
[06:17:42] Like the reason why I didn't do that is because I didn't want to fucking look silly.
[06:17:47] And guess what?
[06:17:47] Sometimes maybe an endless interest in accommodating the tiniest minority of people
[06:17:56] that that do not represent the minority group at all like or the marginalized group at all but simply
[06:18:01] have their own fucking approach is is unproductive is unproductive and i'm not gonna make it at the
[06:18:12] forefront of my advocacy i'm not gonna fucking i'm not gonna be like oh i hate this this is why
[06:18:17] I'm transphobic now, you know, but it's just stupid. You're being fucking stupid. You're
[06:18:26] being silly. Especially because there is a tendency, I think that my bad chat, I wouldn't
[06:18:39] rather hear kiss ass over dick suck because it's more elegant and unwoke, but it's and
[06:18:44] not because it's more elegant than I'm old,
[06:18:47] but because I'm homophobic.
[06:18:55] Like I'm not, yeah, I'm not gonna put on
[06:18:57] a fucking performance for you
[06:18:59] and do something that I don't,
[06:19:01] I think it's like kind of silly.
[06:19:06] That's it.
[06:19:08] That's the same reason why I banned
[06:19:09] the mesophonia chatters too.
[06:19:14] It's like, yeah, every now and then you're going to hear a mouth noise.
[06:19:19] You won't kill you.
[06:19:20] You know what I mean?
[06:19:21] You won't die, I promise.
[06:19:23] I'm going to draw more attention on to the Trump administration's effort to deport
[06:19:33] these migrants to this very hostile prison where some men say they've been tortured.
[06:19:38] Yeah.
[06:19:39] All right.
[06:19:40] So tell us more about what why said in your statement and also just to be clear
[06:19:43] Sharon Alfonzi and the 16 Minutes team had reached out multiple times to the administration
[06:19:48] for statement and interview, right?
[06:19:50] And the administration declined.
[06:19:51] I just want to be clear on that.
[06:19:52] That's right.
[06:19:53] Because you can understand, oh well, if you're not representing once, yeah, go ahead.
[06:20:00] These requests for comment went unanswered according to Alfonzi.
[06:20:03] But was it also for an interview?
[06:20:04] And she's saying she can't wait around forever and only broadcast the segment if they
[06:20:09] agree to be interviewed.
[06:20:10] She says that would amount to a kill switch.
[06:20:12] However, Weiss said this morning
[06:20:13] on the network's early morning editorial call,
[06:20:15] quote, we need to be able to get the principles
[06:20:17] on the record and on camera.
[06:20:19] She means someone like Steven Miller,
[06:20:21] the deputy chief of staff at the White House.
[06:20:22] She's insisting on having those interviews.
[06:20:24] And again, that is her prerogative
[06:20:26] as editor in chief of the organization.
[06:20:28] But if she felt so strongly,
[06:20:29] why did she only make the decision over the weekend
[06:20:32] after the segment was announced,
[06:20:33] after it was ready to go according to staffers,
[06:20:35] after it was already publicized?
[06:20:37] There's something strange about the process here,
[06:20:39] and then there's the political overtones
[06:20:41] that are inescapable, and that is why so many CBS
[06:20:43] offers are now alarmed in this moment.
[06:20:45] Yeah, and just to be precise, six and-
[06:20:48] All right, let's look at the fucking dumbass internal memo
[06:20:50] that this incompetent monster wrote.
[06:20:56] Hi, y'all, I'm writing with specific guidance
[06:20:58] on what I'd like for us to advance the CCOT story.
[06:21:01] I know you'd all like to see this run
[06:21:02] as soon as possible, I feel the same way,
[06:21:04] but if we run the piece as is,
[06:21:05] we'd be doing our viewers a disservice.
[06:21:07] Last month, many outlets, most notably,
[06:21:09] New York Times exposed the horrific conditions of Seacot. Our story presents more of these
[06:21:13] powerful testimonies and putting those accounts in the public record is valuable in and of
[06:21:16] itself. But if we're going to run another story about a topic that has now been much
[06:21:19] covered, we need to advance it.
[06:21:21] Among the ways we do so, does anyone in the administration or anyone prominent who defended
[06:21:25] the use of the alien enemies act now regret it in light of what these Venezuelans endured
[06:21:28] at Seacot? That's a question I'd like to see asked and answered. At present, we
[06:21:32] do not present the administration's argument for why it sent 252 Venezuelans to Seacot.
[06:21:38] What the 252 Venezuelans, uh, what we have is Caroline leave his sound by claiming they're
[06:21:43] evil doers in America, rapist murders, but isn't there much more to ask in light of the
[06:21:46] torture that we are revealing?
[06:21:48] Tom Homan and Stephen Miller don't tend to be shy.
[06:21:50] I realize we've emailed the DHS spokesperson, but we need to push much harder to get these
[06:21:54] principles, uh, get these principles on the record.
[06:21:57] The data we present paints an incongruent picture of the 252 Venezuelans at the
[06:22:01] seek out.
[06:22:02] We say nearly half of no criminal histories.
[06:22:03] In other words, more than half do have criminal histories.
[06:22:06] We should spend a beat explaining this.
[06:22:08] We then, she's like, why can't we justify the administration sending 252 Venezuelans to
[06:22:16] the slave labor prison where they're torturing people in a piece that is supposed to feature
[06:22:23] the innocent victims of this torture prison deportation scheme that the administration
[06:22:29] has as a design.
[06:22:32] I like that she's trying to spin it in the internal memo as though she's just
[06:22:36] trying to arrive at a deeper truth
[06:22:39] okay
[06:22:42] but it's pretty fucking obvious what she's doing
[06:22:44] she's like why won't we defend it more
[06:22:56] many had speeding tickets we should highlight these awful crimes
[06:23:00] we then say only eight out of two hundred fifty two have been sentenced in
[06:23:03] America for violent offenses, but what about charged my point? Oh, okay. What about it? I
[06:23:16] don't know how the criminal justice system works. Why don't we just immediately assume
[06:23:22] that the administration who we are showcasing is engaging in an act of tremendous wrongdoing.
[06:23:29] Why don't we act like that administration actually has righteous cause to do this tremendous
[06:23:34] wrongdoing that they're doing currently?
[06:23:42] This reminds, dude, this is unironically, there is a, listen, no disrespect.
[06:23:47] As you guys know, I'm much closer, or if not directly an ML.
[06:23:52] But this does kind of sometimes remind me of like, well, every single person that Stalin
[06:23:57] actually was sending to the camps was actually an evil door and bad if you
[06:24:02] really investigate it further you will find out that they were all engaging in
[06:24:06] you know counter-revolutionary reactionary behavior like that's what it
[06:24:11] that's a little bit what this is like this is like well why don't we just like
[06:24:15] dive deeper into the data to find out what the administration itself is
[06:24:19] claiming is the wrongdoing that these guys did when we sent them to the
[06:24:22] fucking slave labor camp. Okay. You know, it's kind of crazy. Yeah, when I look at when
[06:24:43] I look at CBS News is 60 minutes doing a piece specifically on the slave labor camp. I think
[06:24:49] to myself, how can we make the slave labor camp narrative seem better?
[06:25:08] Anyway, but what about charge?
[06:25:13] My point is that we should include as much as we can possibly know and
[06:25:16] understand about these individuals.
[06:25:17] Secretary Noam's trip to Seacot. We reported she took pictures and video there with MS-13
[06:25:21] game members, not TDA members, with no comment from her or her staff about what her goal
[06:25:26] on that trip was or what she saw there, or if that trip, or if she had had or has concerns
[06:25:33] about the treatment of detainees like the ones in our P's.
[06:25:35] I also, in suing announcements, the Berkeley students is strange. The pictures are alarming.
[06:25:39] We should include them. But what does the analysis add? We need to do a better
[06:25:42] job of explaining the legal rationale by which the administration detainee deported
[06:25:46] these 252 Venezuelans to seek out. Yeah. I don't think they're going to come out and
[06:25:51] be like, it's because we're racist and we wanted to use Venezuelans as a simple talking
[06:25:56] point. Okay. It's because we want to build a white nationalist dystopia. And in an effort
[06:26:05] to, uh, in an effort to start the process of this, uh, we wanted to start shipping
[06:26:11] entire swaths of the population to this slave labor colony for no real reason whatsoever as a matter
[06:26:17] of fact a lot of these people as you saw don't really have any fucking real don't really have any
[06:26:25] real criminal profile whatsoever we just kind of decided that they are criminals.
[06:26:32] Now there is one guy who would say that and his name is Stephen Miller but of course it's not
[06:26:35] going to fucking say that he's just going to say these guys are criminals and they're ruining
[06:26:39] in the country and they're raping and pillaging.
[06:26:41] He's gonna lie, that's the whole point.
[06:26:51] And that isn't the administration's argument.
[06:26:53] The admin has argued in court that detainees are due judicial review and we should explain
[06:26:57] this with a voice arguing that Trump's exceeding his authority under the relevant
[06:27:00] statute.
[06:27:01] And another arguing that he's operating within the bounds of his authority.
[06:27:04] There's a genuine debate here.
[06:27:06] If we cut down Kristi Noem's analysis, we'd have the time.
[06:27:11] My general view here is that we do our viewers the best service by presenting them with a
[06:27:14] full context.
[06:27:15] Oh my God.
[06:27:16] Oh my God.
[06:27:17] It's like I'm very wise.
[06:27:20] I have been put in charge of Adolf Hitler's propaganda apparatus.
[06:27:28] And you know, I'm previously, I'm being put in charge.
[06:27:32] Previously it was actually a liberal institution, right?
[06:27:36] So I'm still attacking the argument from a liberal association, a liberal understanding,
[06:27:44] the extreme centrism perspective.
[06:27:48] Yes, the Nuremberg, many of our liberal counterparts are talking about the Nuremberg race laws
[06:27:58] as genuinely problematic.
[06:28:01] But have we failed to consider what Hitler thinks about it?
[06:28:05] Why is there no argument here that presents the organized jury as a parasitic force that
[06:28:12] is somehow both incredibly weak and very powerful?
[06:28:16] Can we please factor in what the Nazis have to say?
[06:28:21] Maybe they had good reasons to build the Nuremberg race laws.
[06:28:28] How many of the Jews that were sent to the initial work camps, actually a genuine
[06:28:34] ever-present threat to German society. Is there an argument here that the folk really deserve
[06:28:40] the social safety nets that Jews do not? Find out more on 60 minutes. It's fucking ridiculous.
[06:29:00] Anyway, I believe we need to do more reporting here.
[06:29:04] I'm eager and available to help.
[06:29:06] I tracked down cell numbers for Homan and Miller
[06:29:07] and sent those along.
[06:29:08] Please let me know how I can support you.
[06:29:11] Yeah.
[06:29:16] It's interesting.
[06:29:22] It's giving a red mind comp and I kind of see
[06:29:24] where Hitler's coming from.
[06:29:25] Oh, like the fucking previous article we read.
[06:29:28] What's his name?
[06:29:30] What was the guy from the previous article, Bryce?
[06:29:36] My goat, Bryce.
[06:29:40] It was like, I'm, he was like,
[06:29:42] as an ancestral Jew who converted the Christianity,
[06:29:45] I read my, my conf and the conclusions
[06:29:49] that they reached to were abominable.
[06:29:51] But I kind of understand where he was coming from.
[06:29:53] Oh, it's fucking awesome.
[06:30:00] Yeah, while leading Colombians for academic freedom, Barry wise sought to get propel sign
[06:30:04] Columbia professors fired by the way, while leading the free press,
[06:30:07] wise is spiking stories to cover for a president who sought to get propel sign
[06:30:11] Columbia students deported. She also invented the elite campus identity politics,
[06:30:15] primordial identities, words or violence, safe spacing, microaggression,
[06:30:20] hyperaggressive litigation, and has built a career out of opposing anyone else trying
[06:30:24] to practice these dark arts. That's Barrywise, baby. Oh, one of the stupid parts about her argument
[06:30:32] here was, of course, as Erin Reichlein-Melnich presents, the Supreme Court already held 9-0
[06:30:38] that the process used to send people to CCOT violated due process. There's not any dissent
[06:30:44] here. What are you saying? When she's like, why don't we hear from both sides of the argument?
[06:30:50] Like, here's the thing, okay?
[06:30:54] I know for a fact, Barry Weiss is not like this as a person.
[06:30:59] There are some people out there who do genuinely go, no, we should hear from all sides of all
[06:31:04] arguments no matter how filth and silly, how stupid, or how ridiculous they may be.
[06:31:10] Barry Weiss is not one of these people.
[06:31:12] If the story was about, like, I don't know, the growth of neo-Nazi movements in the
[06:31:16] country she wouldn't be going hey why don't we have famed historian often
[06:31:22] misunderstood David Irwing to deliver us his perspective on why the Nazis are
[06:31:27] were actually misunderstood like she wouldn't do that she just would not do
[06:31:34] that and I don't even know if that's an appropriate way to cover a story like
[06:31:40] that anyway okay just like Barry Weiss is not gonna do a fucking town hall
[06:31:45] with David Duke and she probably shouldn't do a town hall with David Duke anyway. I like
[06:31:49] I'm not even saying that that's a good thing. Okay.
[06:32:09] And of course, obviously everybody fucking hates her at CBS because like I said, instead
[06:32:15] of going up the dick ladder, okay, in the appropriate way, or sorry, for the woke chatter, is the
[06:32:21] ass-kissing ladder, okay? She fucking skyrocketed the top. Why kiss the asses of every single
[06:32:31] middle manager when you can kiss the top middle man, top manager's ass, billionaires,
[06:32:36] Okay. Yes, ass is more woke than dick. Sniz. Shut up.
[06:32:56] You know what's on a bit concerned about this negative tone that I'm hearing in your voice
[06:32:59] these days and I can appreciate where your uncertainty stems from and you have reason
[06:33:01] to question your anxieties and how disillusioned you feel as well as feeling skeptical about
[06:33:04] who you believe you can trust.
[06:33:06] But that attitude will hold you back in this life.
[06:33:08] If you're gonna continue to feel alienated,
[06:33:10] give some thought to this, says Gooner box.
[06:33:21] I don't even know what is happening here, Gooner box.
[06:33:23] How about you keep gooning, brother?
[06:33:26] What is this bait?
[06:33:32] At a somber 60 minute staff meeting today,
[06:33:34] Scott Pelley and others expressed frustration at Barry Weiss's handling of last night's
[06:33:36] canceled segment of management style is not a part time job. Pelley said referring to Weiss's
[06:33:43] missing screenings of the segment per sources. Tanya Simmons, 16, uh, executive producer said
[06:33:49] she stands 100% behind Sharon Alfonzi in the story.
[06:33:57] Simon also pledged to uphold the show's journals and standards. Even the show comes
[06:34:01] under more oversight from CBS news management in the past.
[06:34:04] Also Sharon Alfonzi gave a point of rejoinder
[06:34:07] to Wyze's call for a newsroom or journalist
[06:34:09] can contentiously, if respectfully disagree.
[06:34:12] Disagreement requires discussion, Alfonzi said,
[06:34:15] per sources saying, why is it not contact her directly
[06:34:18] about the segment?
[06:34:23] I personally think this is, I think she's stupid.
[06:34:28] Okay.
[06:34:29] I think she's stupid. And I think she foolishly decided to,
[06:34:34] to, you know, try to spike this segment clearly without even
[06:34:40] realizing that the segment had already been fucking promoted
[06:34:43] and was already slated for distribution in Canada,
[06:34:47] which is why we actually have access to the segment.
[06:34:50] And while this would have been coverage that has already taken place a
[06:34:53] million times over, uh, as it's been, uh, promoted everywhere else,
[06:34:58] she ended up accidentally stricend affecting the fuck out of the story and
[06:35:03] here it is this is from the Canadian broadcast I believe there's only 18
[06:35:07] minutes dedicated to Steve Cox but this is you know this is the 60 minute
[06:35:14] segment that she tried to spy. Soon as the planes landed the deportees thought
[06:35:20] they were headed from the US back to Venezuela but instead they were
[06:35:25] shackled, paraded in front of cameras, and delivered to Seacot, the notorious maximum
[06:35:31] security prison in El Salvador.
[06:35:34] I'm trying to remember what your statement is about accidents being funny and about good
[06:35:37] at it.
[06:35:38] Have you said something similar about edgy humor that you need to be funny before
[06:35:39] actually trying it?
[06:35:40] Do you actually think you're that funny?
[06:35:41] I'm sorry for making this an attack, but can you at least apply your own comedic
[06:35:45] standards?
[06:35:46] No, I was talking about accents.
[06:35:48] If you're good at it, not like funny.
[06:35:51] I'm saying if you're good at an accent, it most likely comes from a place of
[06:35:54] understanding. Okay. If you're not chatter, I do I will just say this. Okay. Do you feel
[06:36:04] like you're in the majority here or you're in the majority in your splinter discord? Because
[06:36:09] everyone here wants you to shut the fuck up myself included. I'm giving you the dignity
[06:36:13] and having conversation with you. But like, I don't think people are like, I don't think
[06:36:18] people took it the way that you did. Or however, you know, however many people
[06:36:23] the splinter discord you guys are in took it okay you know what i mean the
[06:36:31] helicoptering to the top of geeksuck mountain bit was s here in chatters wrong
[06:36:35] yeah i don't think it's like the funniest thing right but in any case if
[06:36:39] you're asking me about like a comedy the attempt of comedy even if it's not
[06:36:44] funny what i always try to convey to people is
[06:36:48] that it doesn't actually show what your true political perspective is
[06:36:52] And unironically, that's yet again an admonishment of your style of thinking.
[06:36:59] But you fail to comprehend that.
[06:37:04] I say, even if you don't find a comedian, not myself, but someone attempting humor, someone attempting comedy,
[06:37:11] and it comes across problematic, for example, that doesn't mean that that person actually sincerely holds these beliefs.
[06:37:18] And you should be more understanding of people attempting to be humorous.
[06:37:21] It's actually a criticism of your style of commentary unironically enough, and you don't really realize it, but that's what it is.
[06:37:36] In any case, I hope this offers better clarity.
[06:37:51] No, I think Dave Chappelle is very much transphobic.
[06:38:16] I
[06:38:24] Anyway, let's keep going
[06:38:27] Where they told 60 minutes they endured four months of hell
[06:38:35] This is not house chords, this is splinter discord activity for the record, I can't believe I'm finding myself fucking
[06:38:40] and defending Hoscord's honor here,
[06:38:42] but this is like the type of shit that goes on
[06:38:45] when people get really annoyed at Hoscord
[06:38:47] not being woke enough.
[06:38:51] 60 minutes, they endured four months of health.
[06:38:54] Did you think you were gonna die there?
[06:38:56] We thought we were already the living dead, honestly.
[06:38:59] Tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch, tch.
[06:39:01] Tonight, 60 minutes reaches for a new high
[06:39:04] with a breathtaking climb to base camp on Mount Everest.
[06:39:08] I am not looking down, don't talk.
[06:39:10] Oh, God.
[06:39:12] Wendy, I do not like this at all.
[06:39:15] He hiked 10 days into thin air.
[06:39:18] Welcome to Everest Base Camp.
[06:39:20] Our guides were the Sherpas who risked their lives to assist climbers.
[06:39:24] We found there's little margin for error on the journey to Everest.
[06:39:30] I'm Leslie Stahl.
[06:39:33] I'm Scott Pelley. I'm Anderson Cooper.
[06:39:36] I'm Sharon Alfonsi.
[06:39:38] I'm John Worthyne.
[06:39:39] I'm Cecilia Vega.
[06:39:40] I'm Nora O'Donnell.
[06:39:42] I'm Bill Whittaker.
[06:39:43] Those stories and in our last minute,
[06:39:46] an 18-letter milestone.
[06:39:48] Tonight on 60 Minutes.
[06:39:59] You may recall earlier this year
[06:40:01] when the Trump administration deported hundreds
[06:40:03] of Venezuelan men to El Salvador,
[06:40:06] country most had no connection to. The White House claimed the men were terrorists, part
[06:40:11] of a violent gang, and invoked a centuries-old wartime power, saying it allowed them to deport
[06:40:18] some men immediately without due process, an unusual strategy that sparked an ongoing
[06:40:24] legal battle. Tonight you'll hear from some of those men. They describe torture, sexual
[06:40:30] and physical abuse inside Seacot, one of El Salvador's harshest prisons, where they say
[06:40:37] they endured four months of hell.
[06:40:41] It began as soon as the planes landed.
[06:40:45] The deportees thought they were headed back to Venezuela, but then saw hundreds of Salvadoran
[06:40:51] police waiting for them on the tarmac.
[06:40:56] Shackled, they were paraded in front of cameras, pushed onto buses, and delivered to Seacot,
[06:41:03] El Salvador's notorious maximum security prison.
[06:41:07] When we got there, the Seacot director was talking to us.
[06:41:15] The first thing he told us was that we would never see the light of day or night again.
[06:41:22] He said, welcome to hell.
[06:41:23] I'll make sure you never leave.
[06:41:25] Did you think you were going to die there?
[06:41:27] We thought we were already the living dead, honestly.
[06:41:30] We met Luis Muñoz Pinto in Colombia.
[06:41:33] He was a college student in repressive Venezuela and hoped to seek asylum in the United States.
[06:41:39] In 2024 he says he waited in Mexico until his scheduled appointment with US Customs
[06:41:45] and Border Protection in California.
[06:41:48] During that interview, they just looked at me and told me I was a danger to society.
[06:41:54] You have no crime record.
[06:41:55] Nothing was.
[06:41:56] I don't even, I never even got a traffic ticket.
[06:41:59] Never the luck.
[06:42:00] There was like, why are we just interviewing him?
[06:42:07] Why can't we interview Adolf Hitler?
[06:42:13] Who will then tell us that this guy deserved it.
[06:42:20] This is not good enough.
[06:42:22] Why are we not hearing from the administration that sent him to the torture rape slave prison?
[06:42:37] It's so crazy man.
[06:42:40] As he was detained by customs, he says he spent six months locked up in the U.S., waiting
[06:42:48] for a decision on his asylum case when he was deported.
[06:42:54] One of 252 Venezuelans sent to seek out between March and April.
[06:43:00] Inside he says their hands and feet were tied.
[06:43:03] Forced to their knees, their heads were shaved.
[06:43:07] There was blood everywhere, screams, people crying, people who couldn't take it and re-urinating
[06:43:13] and vomiting on themselves.
[06:43:15] When you get there, you already know you're in hell.
[06:43:18] You don't need anyone else to tell you.
[06:43:21] He says the guards began savagely beating them with their fists and batons.
[06:43:26] Tell me about what they did to you personally.
[06:43:30] Four guards grabbed me, and they beat me until I bled.
[06:43:33] To the point of agony, they knocked our faces against the wall.
[06:43:37] That was when they broke one of my teeth,
[06:43:38] the moment when I broke one of my teeth.
[06:43:40] Seacot, the terrorism confinement center, was built in 2022.
[06:43:45] As a key part of Salvadoran president,
[06:43:50] Naya Bukeli is sweeping anti-gankraft down.
[06:43:55] The massive prison designed to hold 40,000 inmates
[06:43:59] and its harsh reputation are a point of pride for Bukeli.
[06:44:03] You know what's crazy?
[06:44:05] I knew I was going to fucking have issues with the 60 minutes peace as I often do, but not
[06:44:14] in the fucking Barry wise perspective, but because of what gets left unsaid, even in a
[06:44:21] piece such as this one, like, I hope they will at least factor in some human rights
[06:44:29] concerns here about the prison structure and the judiciary in Al Salvador
[06:44:38] without just like moving on.
[06:44:44] Kelly, who regularly allows social media influencers to tour it. As you can see
[06:44:50] when we tell you in the middle of the desert.
[06:44:52] Guards show off cramped cells where muddle bunks are stacked four high.
[06:44:57] There are no mattresses or sheets.
[06:44:59] Inmate said they had no access to the outdoors and no contact with relatives.
[06:45:06] International Observers Board Seacot was violating the U.N. standard for minimum treatment of
[06:45:12] prisoners.
[06:45:13] Okay.
[06:45:14] Two years ago, during the Biden administration, the U.S. State Department cited torture
[06:45:19] and life-threatening prison conditions in its report on El Salvador.
[06:45:24] This year, during a meeting with President Bukele at the White House, President Trump
[06:45:29] expressed admiration for El Salvador's prison system.
[06:45:33] They're very strong facilities and they don't play games.
[06:45:40] In March, the U.S. struck a deal to pay El Salvador $4.7 million to house Venezuelan
[06:45:46] deportees at Seacot.
[06:45:49] These are heinous monsters, rapists, murderers, kidnappers, sexual assaulters, predators who
[06:45:55] have no right to be in this country and they must be held accountable.
[06:45:59] The US government said these people are the worst of the worst.
[06:46:03] These people are migrants.
[06:46:05] And the sad reality is that the US government tried to make an example out of them.
[06:46:10] They sent them to a place where they were likely to be tortured to send migrants across
[06:46:17] Latin America, the message that they should not come to the United States.
[06:46:21] One Papier is a deputy director at the nonprofit Human Rights Watch.
[06:46:25] In an 81-page report released in November, the organization concluded there was systematic
[06:46:31] torture and other abuses at Seacot and that nearly half of the Venezuelans the U.S. sent
[06:46:37] there had no criminal history.
[06:46:39] Only eight of the men had been convicted of a violent or potentially violent offense.
[06:46:45] How do you know they weren't gang members?
[06:46:48] We cross-referenced federal databases, databases in all 50 states in the United States, and
[06:46:54] also obtained criminal records in Venezuela and in the countries where these people live.
[06:47:00] And the information we obtained in the United States is based on data provided by ICE.
[06:47:07] So ICE's own records said...
[06:47:09] ICE's own records say that only 3% of them had been sentenced for a violent or potentially
[06:47:14] violent crime.
[06:47:15] Well, now, I mean, we'd have to hear from Steven Miller, I think, about how everyone,
[06:47:24] including that lawyer who, speaking suspiciously with an accent, should probably get sent to
[06:47:31] the rape torture camp.
[06:47:38] You know 60 minutes reviewed the available ice data it confirms the findings of human rights watch
[06:47:48] it shows 70 men had pending criminal charges in the US which could include immigration violations
[06:47:55] we don't know because the Department of Homeland Security yeah that's the other thing by the way
[06:48:01] Okay, so here is one of the most indecent things that this administration has done so far.
[06:48:08] If you guys recall, up until Trump too, 98% of court meetings were attended by undocumented
[06:48:16] migrants that were in the process of filing their asylum claim and applying and totally
[06:48:24] playing ball with the criminal justice or the immigrant justice system, right?
[06:48:30] So what the Trump administration started doing is they started picking off people in all of
[06:48:37] these, in all these court proceedings, as we saw inside of courtrooms, as they were coming
[06:48:42] in or out of their hearings with immigration judges.
[06:48:47] And the reason why they did that was one, because it's super easy, because you know
[06:48:51] those guys are playing ball with immigration, so you know where they're at at any given
[06:48:54] moment, right?
[06:48:56] But the other reason why they did that is because now people, immigrants will think twice before
[06:49:01] they actually go to their court proceeding because they're terrified of whether or not
[06:49:05] they will be falsely deported from the country despite the fact that they are playing ball
[06:49:13] with the administration, right?
[06:49:15] Like they're doing their due diligence.
[06:49:20] Their only crime is, I guess, being foolish enough to assume that this administration
[06:49:24] will actually allow them to stay in the country as long as they follow the letter of the law.
[06:49:30] So when they don't actually follow, when they don't actually go to the court hearings now
[06:49:35] because they're terrified, and court appearance numbers have actually dropped quite a bit.
[06:49:42] NPR was reporting on it this morning.
[06:49:47] Now they automatically get a deportation order.
[06:49:51] So it's a double whammy.
[06:49:53] And because these people were already playing ball with the government, the government knows
[06:49:58] exactly where they are.
[06:50:00] They're going to their court hearings.
[06:50:02] The government knows exactly where they are.
[06:50:04] They have their IRS paperwork.
[06:50:07] They have their domicile.
[06:50:09] They know where they live.
[06:50:10] They know where their family members live.
[06:50:12] They're not very hard to track down.
[06:50:13] And now you create this environment where you have a righteous cause to deport these
[06:50:20] people because they miss their court hearing. And then the numbers that they're showing
[06:50:30] here will reflect that. Then they can turn around and say, guess what? These guys had
[06:50:38] deportation orders. That means that they're criminals. That means they had to be deported.
[06:50:46] So they're creating criminals, only to justify the deportation numbers.
[06:50:56] Security has never released a complete list of the names or criminal histories of the men
[06:51:02] it's sent to seek on.
[06:51:04] Rapid deportations have been a key part of the Trump.
[06:51:07] What is this?
[06:51:09] Would not want those prisoners in the US.
[06:51:10] Oh my God.
[06:51:11] Then why is crime?
[06:51:12] Dau El Salvador asylum in USA during housing crisis not good
[06:51:18] Yeah, that should show you how desperate a lot of people are I mean it also is
[06:51:25] You're also factoring in people that have been here for a decade. You know what I mean?
[06:51:28] I mean, there's been a housing crisis for the longest time, but I
[06:51:34] Don't think that's the solution to the housing crisis because they have deported a bunch of people
[06:51:38] Do you feel like is our property prices coming down?
[06:51:42] Are you ever going to be able to own a home, you think?
[06:51:49] Do you feel like if we deport a number,
[06:51:54] like if we deport a specific number of migrants, you genuinely think that
[06:52:02] there will be more available inventory of housing? And then with the more available
[06:52:07] inventory of housing, like landlords will decide to lower prices, is that what you think is
[06:52:11] is going to have it? I suspect you don't have an answer to these questions. Just one more
[06:52:25] deportation bro please please please just one more and then everything is going to
[06:52:29] be good. Rent is down too oh yeah rent is down property prices are coming down rent
[06:52:35] is down to groceries are cheaper now is so crazy. Yeah. It's so crazy because like a big
[06:52:50] part of it is inventory, right? And considering that like approximately 30 to 40% of all construction
[06:52:58] is done by undocumented migrants or migrant workers in general, um, you know, that's,
[06:53:04] that's got to, it's got to make things a lot easier in terms of building new, uh, available,
[06:53:11] readily available units of housing, right? Rent is now 600 percent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[06:53:26] I went to the hospital yesterday and the doctor went,
[06:53:34] and don't worry about it.
[06:53:35] When I asked about the bill, oh, hell yeah.
[06:53:36] Is it because you told the doctor that you're a white man
[06:53:39] and white men are no longer under attack?
[06:53:46] That's what I do.
[06:53:49] When I go to the hospital, I say, I'm a white man
[06:53:51] and white men are no longer attack.
[06:53:53] This is free, right?
[06:53:55] And all of the nurses and all the doctors actually stand up in unison and they give me a standing
[06:54:01] oh and they go thank you white man for overcoming great trials and tribulations.
[06:54:10] Yeah in that wild it's real dude JD Vance told me hey I know there is a you know ecological
[06:54:21] disaster, an economic crisis, a real crisis in confidence for a better future doesn't
[06:54:31] feel like it's going to happen anytime soon. But guess what? Guess what guys?
[06:54:36] States of America and the United States of America, you don't have to apologize for
[06:54:44] being white anymore. Yeah, it's true. It took away so much time out of my day when I had
[06:54:58] to literally apologize for being white all the time. You know, I would literally I would
[06:55:06] walk into the coffee shop and I'd be like I apologize for doing a bodies in spaces.
[06:55:12] I know that it's inappropriate the way that I am occupying the space that could have been
[06:55:18] taken by a person of BIPOC, BIPOC LGBTQIA plus.
[06:55:26] And I want to apologize for my bodies and spaces here, but you know, it took a while.
[06:55:32] It would literally, it would stop the entire, especially if there's two white people
[06:55:38] that we all have to do that. We were doing it all the time. And basically now we don't have to do
[06:55:52] that. So things are a lot faster and a lot of places are finally paying me reparations
[06:55:59] for all the previous harm that they've committed.
[06:56:01] Yeah, if you can convince the lowest white man, he's better than the best colored man.
[06:56:09] He won't notice you're picking his pocket.
[06:56:10] Hell, give him somebody to look down on and he'll empty his pockets for you.
[06:56:14] Yep.
[06:56:15] LBJ LeBron James said that.
[06:56:24] He did.
[06:56:25] He was right.
[06:56:31] That's why you can't trust the unemployment numbers. There's so much white apologizing on the clock exactly.
[06:56:41] Every time I went anywhere an LGBT BIPOC would hold a gun to my head until I apologize for being white. Yeah.
[06:56:48] So...
[06:56:50] So now that we don't have to do that it's things are so much better
[06:56:53] Administrations immigration overhaul the administration considers anyone who crosses the border illegally to be a criminal
[06:57:00] Illegal crossings are now at a historic low
[06:57:04] But some immigration attorneys say the administration has used flawed criteria to justify deportations
[06:57:11] I have some tattoos none of them have anything to do with any criminal group
[06:57:18] I explained to them, saying that I didn't belong to any gang to which the agent responded,
[06:57:25] but you are Venezuelan.
[06:57:28] Sixty minutes reviewed this document agents used to assess Venezuelans.
[06:57:33] A person with eight points was designated as a Tren de Aragua gang member and a portable.
[06:57:39] Tattoos and immigration officers suspected of being gang related earned four points.
[06:57:45] The criminologists who study gangs say tattoos are not a reliable way to identify Venezuelan
[06:57:51] gang members, because, unlike some Central American gangs such as MS-13, Trendier Raguá
[06:57:58] does not use tattoos to signal membership.
[06:58:03] Venezuelan National William Luzada Sanchez was also deported to CCOT.
[06:58:08] He told us the guards there also accuse Venezuelans with tattoos of being gang
[06:58:13] members.
[06:58:14] He detailed months of abuse and being forced in distressed positions.
[06:58:19] So you had to be on your knees for 24 hours?
[06:58:21] Yes, because they put a guard there to watch us so that we wouldn't move.
[06:58:26] And what would happen if you could make it?
[06:58:30] They'd take us to the island.
[06:58:32] What's the island?
[06:58:35] The island is a little room where there's no light, no ventilation, nothing.
[06:58:39] It's a cell for punishment, where you can't see your hand in front of your face.
[06:58:45] After they locked us in, they came to beat us every half hour.
[06:58:48] And they pounded on the door with their sticks to traumatize us while we were in there.
[06:58:53] The torture was never ending.
[06:58:54] In terminalis.
[06:58:55] They would take you there and beat you for hours and leave you locked in there for
[06:58:59] days.
[06:59:02] Some of the deportees described being sexually assaulted by the guards.
[06:59:06] They were hitting your private parts.
[06:59:08] See.
[06:59:09] of baton. No, no, they took them with their hands. And they did that to multiple people?
[06:59:16] And before as many viewers as Bayes, I'm sure Asman himself probably watched this and said it was
[06:59:21] Bayes and totally justifiable and actually very cool that this happened.
[06:59:28] My idea. To most of us. The men say they grew weaker by the day. They claim the prison
[06:59:34] lights were left on 24 hours a day making it difficult to sleep and that food and medicine
[06:59:40] were often withheld. Did you have access to clean water? They never gave us access to clean water.
[06:59:47] The same water. I'd very wise be like why didn't we have the torture rape prison
[06:59:54] concentration camp guards and their perspective on this?
[06:59:57] as the why this is actually totally valid or based from our baths and toilets was the
[07:00:07] same water that we had to drink and survive on if we had serious injuries when the doctors
[07:00:14] examined us they told us that drinking water would heal it so they're tying the injured
[07:00:20] prisoners to drink water and the water is filthy. Super filthy. The sicker and more
[07:00:28] injured we were, the better it was for them. In late March, about 10 days after the first
[07:00:34] U.S. deportees arrived, department.
[07:00:36] Well, well, well.
[07:00:40] As well.
[07:00:40] Reacts to the news that Barry West blocked the CBS store on the Trump
[07:00:43] Amazon sending undocumented immigrants to prison and outside of door to be
[07:00:45] tortured, tortured as meant as mine comp says is as my cop says it's great that
[07:00:50] these immigrants are being tortured and critical news organization should be
[07:00:53] banned or attention on to the Trump administration's effort to deport these
[07:00:57] migrants to this very hostile prison where some men say they've been
[07:01:00] tortured.
[07:01:01] Yeah.
[07:01:02] Shouldn't have been here illegally.
[07:01:04] Asim watch your rocon interview live and his youtube video got half a million views probably better. He pays attention
[07:01:11] Wait
[07:01:14] Are you fucking stupid he doesn't just pay attention he then also turns around and says
[07:01:20] Yeah, this torture structure is awesome
[07:01:23] If he was simply watching it and not even saying anything about it
[07:01:28] And I think left people to make up their own conclusions
[07:01:32] I suspect that that would be more productive. Yes, but he's leading
[07:01:38] His audience into watching shit like that and then going this is awesome. This is good. He's agreeing with a torture. Are you okay?
[07:01:46] I don't know if he I don't know what his commentary was on my Rokana interview and I quite frankly don't really give a shit
[07:01:53] it. But just simply getting more eyeballs on the pro torture side on the torture prison
[07:02:02] is probably not a good thing.
[07:02:04] That's what I think. Draw more attention onto the Trump administration's effort to deport
[07:02:14] these migrants to this very hostile prison where some men say they've been tortured.
[07:02:18] Yeah, shouldn't have been here illegally.
[07:02:22] That's what I think.
[07:02:24] Shouldn't have done it.
[07:02:27] Yep, nobody asked you to come here.
[07:02:30] Shouldn't have been here.
[07:02:32] Maybe then they'll watch this and they'll be like,
[07:02:33] okay, well maybe I shouldn't show up then.
[07:02:36] Could this be a marketing ploy?
[07:02:38] Well, I think it should be.
[07:02:39] This is dumb enough to be tortured or so.
[07:02:41] I wanna see what the conditions are.
[07:02:43] Well, here's like basically here's the question.
[07:02:46] if they were being tortured would i agree to not send them there
[07:02:50] no i don't care
[07:02:51] don't give a shit
[07:02:53] shouldn't have come here
[07:02:54] sick dude
[07:02:56] strangely he got more views reacting to it than your video that's not strange at
[07:03:00] all
[07:03:01] uh... he has a larger audience on youtube
[07:03:03] and also youtube favors right wing uh... content
[07:03:07] uh... fuck ton more
[07:03:09] that's not strange at all
[07:03:12] that's the most normal thing of all time
[07:03:15] That happens all the time.
[07:03:17] It sucks, but it's just the way things go.
[07:03:23] It is what it is.
[07:03:30] I don't even know.
[07:03:31] My, especially because of the Ro Khanna interview
[07:03:34] that I conducted, yeah,
[07:03:35] I didn't do well, it got 151,000 views, right?
[07:03:38] It's the format that my audience is used to
[07:03:42] is a shorter, you know, direct to camera content.
[07:03:48] Let's see what has been GoldTV's video
[07:03:49] did probably a lot better than mine.
[07:03:57] Yeah, 621,000.
[07:04:00] And I have no issue with this for the record.
[07:04:02] There's nothing you can do about it.
[07:04:04] It's just how it is.
[07:04:06] The algorithm, the first time,
[07:04:08] the algorithm absolutely favors right wing content,
[07:04:12] even if it's the same exact content.
[07:04:16] Ain't that crazy?
[07:04:35] I noticed the song got a little nervous
[07:04:36] when Connors had all the men at the parties
[07:04:38] who witnessed Underage Girl in the news
[07:04:39] should go to jail for not reporting it too close to home.
[07:04:41] insane. A congressman next to the self-proclaimed terrorist supporter Yikes. Yeah, so FC was
[07:04:49] pretty bad at everything, but basically there's this guy named Asmongold that didn't happen.
[07:04:53] I mean, this, this goes to show like, I mean, this is as close as you're going to get to
[07:05:14] basically very little commentary from Asmongold and just almost exactly the same video.
[07:05:23] almost the exact same video, 600,000 views versus the original video uploaded around the same time on my page, 100,000 views, 150,000 views.
[07:05:33] There is, I mean, I think it's just, it's just how YouTube is, and there's not really much you can do about it.
[07:05:41] about it. No, it's not how it is. They favor the algorithm to make people think it is allergic
[07:05:58] to normal haters. I swear to God. Yeah, I mean,
[07:06:11] What do you mean no commentary you didn't even play it?
[07:06:17] I mean considering that it's the original interview was an hour and 10 minutes and his
[07:06:21] video is an hour and 12 minutes.
[07:06:24] I suspect that there's not a lot of additional commentary.
[07:06:27] I'm not going to watch the whole thing.
[07:06:34] It's not for zero reason, it's because of what I represent.
[07:06:56] He couldn't pause, he commented it, he commented, he watched live, if you combine all the re-upload
[07:07:16] from all the fanchills you have more but you two teams very slow now, probably not.
[07:07:23] algorithm is based on what people prefer generally.
[07:07:51] you're going to acknowledge that you and Aspen are two sides of the same coin and you can
[07:07:53] accomplish more if you meet in the middle. The algorithm is based on what people prefer
[07:07:57] generally. It seems like you're saying we're on both sides of the same coin, but you kind
[07:08:03] of prefer one side of the coin a little bit more by your own admission, I suspect. So
[07:08:08] I don't know why you just choose to say that we're both sides of the same coin.
[07:08:13] You don't have to be a centrist in here. You can openly say that you're a fan
[07:08:17] Asmongold in your preferred commentary?
[07:08:30] Well, yeah, ultimately
[07:08:39] Have a chat was going rare is on W there will be an influx of asthma levers now. I don't think so
[07:08:44] I think you need to understand a lot of these people have been so aggressively well poisoned against me that they will never
[07:08:56] A lot of a lot of those people have been so so unimaginably well poisoned that they will rarely
[07:09:07] Rarely ever turn around and go, you know what Hassan was actually right. I was wrong about him
[07:09:12] Most people don't ever recognize that they were wrong.
[07:09:15] Why should they?
[07:09:16] I'm just a random fucking dickhead on the internet
[07:09:18] from their perspective.
[07:09:31] I think for a lot of people, for a lot of people,
[07:09:34] they don't actually think about politics
[07:09:38] as organizing around specific goals.
[07:09:44] They think about it as personalities that they despise
[07:09:46] or personalities that they find relatable.
[07:09:51] And so for a lot of people like that,
[07:09:56] it's they've already decided that I'm like a villain.
[07:10:01] So even if they agree with 100% of my worldview,
[07:10:04] they most likely will never even entertain
[07:10:07] openly stating that they agree with me, but I, I don't really mind it necessarily.
[07:10:14] I think if they're, you know, if someone is like going from being an
[07:10:19] Asmongole fan to like, I don't know, door knocking for Zoram on Donnie,
[07:10:24] and they fucking hate me, but they're door knocking for Zoram on Donnie.
[07:10:26] I think it's weird.
[07:10:28] It's a, it's definitely weird.
[07:10:30] I think they would probably enjoy this community, but, um, I'll take that
[07:10:36] W, you know what I mean?
[07:10:43] Like, I'll take it.
[07:10:47] I don't think there are a lot.
[07:10:52] I don't, I don't think there are a lot of people like that.
[07:11:00] This is what's so wrong with it.
[07:11:01] You can't even acknowledge the other side at all without calling it evil.
[07:11:03] We generally want the same things.
[07:11:04] We got to compromise on how to get it.
[07:11:06] Okay, now I'm glad that you also openly admit
[07:11:08] that you're on the other side,
[07:11:09] but the other thing is,
[07:11:13] even if I don't call this kind of commentary evil,
[07:11:16] I think it speaks on its own.
[07:11:17] If you think people who have made their way
[07:11:23] into the United States of America
[07:11:25] and are going through the proper protocols
[07:11:27] to get gainful employment,
[07:11:29] who are productive members of American society,
[07:11:32] if you think that they should be tortured
[07:11:34] a fucking slave labor prison without any due process whatsoever in their deportation specifically
[07:11:40] for political goals then I mean that's kind of evil like that is pretty fucking evil right it's just
[07:11:47] I don't know why you have such a hard time with this word like do you want me to say that that's
[07:11:53] good I don't think it's good do you want me to lie I'm not going to lie to you I'm not going
[07:11:58] to lie to anybody just like earlier I spent fucking hour yelling at people in my chat who
[07:12:03] who were like, Oh, I can't believe you said, you know, uh, uh, people are climbing Dicks
[07:12:08] up mountain, uh, in their, in their career career elevation and Harkins back to a misogynistic
[07:12:13] tendency, blah, blah, blah, all this shit.
[07:12:15] Like I'm not going to lie to you and act like that's a normal point of concern.
[07:12:21] Just like I'm not going to lie to you and act like, uh, you know, someone's saying
[07:12:25] that people should be tortured and I don't actually care if they get tortured is
[07:12:30] a non-villainist position. It's the position of villains. No, I don't want torture and
[07:12:37] I would advocate against it, but I also don't want illegal immigration. Neither of us want
[07:12:40] torture. There's a place to start the conversation. Okay, you and I might not, but Asmongold is
[07:12:46] saying this.
[07:12:47] This be a marketing ploy? Well, I think it should be. This is dummy and deserve to
[07:12:51] be tortures though. I want to see what the conditions are. Well, here's like basically
[07:12:55] here's the question. If they were being tortured, would I agree to not send them
[07:13:00] No, I don't care
[07:13:07] You know, I don't want towards you well
[07:13:19] Don't give a shit shouldn't have come here and also maybe that's a good thing now that they know
[07:13:25] So they know what's on the table if you break the law
[07:13:28] He talks a big talk let him beat someone in the tears himself. He can't do it
[07:13:33] Of course not but that's but that doesn't matter does it because a lot of people actually a lot of people that
[07:13:39] That jump in
[07:13:41] To this kind of thinking they do so because of their own personal insecurities
[07:13:46] They do so because they're lacking something in their own lives. They do that because
[07:13:53] They do that because
[07:13:58] They feel more powerful when they think that a much more powerful entity like the American government is doing harm to others that they've declared are their enemy.
[07:14:13] People still claim and even subreddit that he's a reasonable voice compared to you and he's consistent on his views.
[07:14:18] Lamel. Yeah, I mean, again, as I said already, a lot of these people only care about politics
[07:14:25] from the perspective of their favorite content creators and their immediate battles. Most
[07:14:29] of it is just parasocial. It's in many instances. In many instances, I would say that is no
[07:14:41] different than Nicki Minaj stands. Many of them, gay, black, brown, queer, advocating for
[07:14:49] Nicki Minaj, even after Nicki Minaj is a pivot to Trump and MAGA. For them, it has nothing
[07:14:55] to do with the actual impact of the policies. They might even end up going and voting against
[07:15:00] Donald Trump, but they still will continue this battle because they care about making
[07:15:07] this person that they feel a deep and personal connection with happy and in their minds they
[07:15:12] think unconditional support is, is happy. I think Azmin is too practical sometimes. I understand
[07:15:19] his point of view, but I feel too much guilt to do what I would agree with him. I would agree with
[07:15:24] him would be necessary. However, it's only necessary because the problem was ignored too
[07:15:28] long. Oh, so a little bit of torture is a necessity because the problem was ignored for too
[07:15:32] too long. What is the problem? Can you explain to me in your own words what the major issue
[07:15:42] is with undocumented migrants? Either way, I'm asking you, I don't give a shit about
[07:15:46] asthma perspective now, I'm asking you, what is the problem with migrants and migrant
[07:15:53] workers in this country? If you say crime, migrants documented undocumented alike, do
[07:16:02] do not commit a fracture of the crimes that natural born u.s. citizens commit
[07:16:05] and per capita as well for the record undocumented migrants
[07:16:08] actually this responsible for a smaller share
[07:16:11] of per capita crime the natural born u.s. citizens are responsible for
[07:16:16] they are by and large of very cognizant of
[07:16:20] the laws
[07:16:21] and are simply trying to make ends meet
[07:16:24] their goal for coming into the united states of america isn't like you know
[07:16:27] cut the line or anything like that they're just trying to looking for
[07:16:29] survival
[07:16:32] they're taking the jobs and also social web or stop giving him bad talking points
[07:16:37] dumbass for the record Twiggy this chatter is fucking with you he's giving
[07:16:43] you two inconsistent positions are they actually taking advantage of the welfare
[07:16:48] state or are they actually stealing the jobs if they're stealing the jobs then
[07:16:51] they're not stealing unemployment if they're stealing the unemployment they're
[07:16:54] not stealing the jobs he's purposely baiting you with a bad talking point
[07:16:57] So you repeat it so that I can dunk on you.
[07:17:00] Just letting you know.
[07:17:02] In my opinion, they're easily exploded cheap labor
[07:17:04] with no rights of protection for corporate greed
[07:17:06] on top of that.
[07:17:06] Too many bad individuals come in.
[07:17:07] Nope?
[07:17:08] No, no, no, no, no.
[07:17:10] This first part of the argument is true.
[07:17:13] But you and I both know the proper solution for that
[07:17:17] is documentation.
[07:17:19] Proper documentation, proper work clearance,
[07:17:20] proper work authorization that eliminates
[07:17:25] this part of the proportion of the conversation.
[07:17:28] You and I are in agreement on that.
[07:17:30] This, on the other hand, you and I are not in agreement on.
[07:17:36] On top of that, too many bad individuals come in.
[07:17:37] I just gave you hard evidence that that is not the case,
[07:17:41] unless you think they're bad for a different reason, okay?
[07:17:44] If they had documentation, they wouldn't be illegal.
[07:17:46] What's the difference between a documented migrant
[07:17:48] and an undocumented migrant?
[07:17:55] walk through it. I think you're going to figure it out.
[07:18:00] Well, before you give me the answer, I'll tell you it's paperwork. It's documentation. If they got the proper authorization and the proper work clearance, which the government has the capability of doing so for virtually every single undocumented migrant that's been on US soil, especially those who have been on US soil for an extended period of time.
[07:18:21] So, you're wrong on that front and as far as like too many bad individuals come in, that's pure speculation.
[07:18:29] There's no evidence for that. As a matter of fact, there's evidence to suggest that the exact opposite is the case.
[07:18:34] So, for this reason, you've come up with a separate, you're implying or you're suspecting them of doing something bad.
[07:18:47] something bad. They're willing to ignore the law, which I agree not always, but definitely
[07:18:51] will invite bad people. Okay, if they're willing to ignore the law, and for the past, I don't
[07:18:57] know, however many years undocumented, the size of the undocumented migrant population
[07:19:01] has exploded, right? That's Trump's own statements. Why has crime gone down?
[07:19:10] Why is crime on the downtrend consistently for years and years and years in the United
[07:19:15] States of America, especially since the 90s, right? And that is when the undocumented migrant
[07:19:21] population actually exploded in size. So why is that the case then? Now, obviously,
[07:19:26] that's a stupid way to argue for the record, because I already gave you the direct information
[07:19:31] necessary, which is that according to, uh, to clearance, uh, according to, to jail records
[07:19:38] and according to clearance rates, conviction rates and charges, undocumented migrants are
[07:19:44] actually responsible for, like I said, a lower share of crime per capita than natural-born
[07:19:49] U.S. citizens are, especially when you add on documented migrants as well. The number
[07:19:55] goes even, the number goes even smaller. So is there, and this is a serious question,
[07:20:02] okay? And this is one that you don't have to immediately answer, but maybe you can
[07:20:05] think about on your own, is there a potential that you might have been lied to? You might
[07:20:14] have been duped. Do you feel like there is? Do you feel like there is any likelihood that
[07:20:28] you might have been wrong about this information and the way that it's been presented? I'm
[07:20:31] I'm not even going to say that, you know, it's your fault.
[07:20:35] I'm simply asking, do you think that you might have been lied to about undocumented migrants?
[07:20:49] Because even if they are unwilling to follow the law, which by the way, I don't think
[07:20:53] you understand how that process works either, because many of them are actually here on
[07:20:58] and visas, or many of them actually do follow the law as it stands, the law actually purposely
[07:21:04] creates this unique legal limbo for undocumented migrants, keeping them undocumented, but also
[07:21:12] making them attend court hearings and whatnot.
[07:21:16] So they are technically on the pathway towards citizenship, or at least proper documentation.
[07:21:22] They know exactly where these people are, and that's precisely the reason why their
[07:21:25] IRS paperwork is is what the ICE agents use when they figure out what home they're at or
[07:21:32] they know exactly where their job sites are or where they work
[07:21:37] off of their tax forms and that's precisely how they go and and apprehend them at their
[07:21:40] place of business or they arrest them at court proceedings at court hearings because they're
[07:21:46] following the law. So just because they don't have the full completed documentation doesn't
[07:21:51] mean that they're not actually following the law they are following the law the administration
[07:21:54] and is actually using that as an opportunity to deport them.
[07:22:12] So even if you didn't know all of that information,
[07:22:15] which you now know,
[07:22:17] but even if you didn't know all of this information,
[07:22:20] even if you had not considered that the only difference
[07:22:22] a document, the document of migrant and an undocumented one is simply paperwork and and
[07:22:26] proper clearance. Why is it that your automatic assumption, your automatic suspicion, which
[07:22:36] is, you know, not backed by any evidence whatsoever, as a matter of fact, all the evidence readily
[07:22:40] available shows the exact opposite, has caused you to believe that these are people who
[07:22:45] who are actually doing crimes.
[07:23:06] I wouldn't know the statistics, maybe I'm wrong.
[07:23:08] I go off what I live and crime isn't my only main concern
[07:23:11] but I acknowledge that it's disproportionate risk
[07:23:12] in the population simply because we don't know
[07:23:14] they are what they've done. I already, okay, I would personally help those here achieve
[07:23:23] citizenship, but I recognize breaking our laws is still a crime, no matter our empathy.
[07:23:27] Okay, well, first of all, we started off this conversation by justifying torture for people
[07:23:34] that have been here that have just been working, you know, that got swept away by Donald Trump.
[07:23:39] As a matter of fact, we're talking specifically about the Venezuelans that were deported
[07:23:41] seek out 250 of them. And do you know who actually brought the Venezuelans into the
[07:23:46] country? His name was Donald Trump, not this time around, but the last time around. As
[07:23:50] a matter of fact, he offered all the Venezuelans that were coming into the United States of
[07:23:54] America, temporary protective status, i.e. the proper paperwork to not only exist inside
[07:23:59] of the United States of America, but to be able to work inside of the United States
[07:24:03] of America. But the problem with temporary protective status is they can be revoked.
[07:24:08] And when Donald Trump wanted to identify Venezuelans as criminals, as terrorists, as drug dealers,
[07:24:12] and rapists, he decided to revoke the temporary protective status of the Venezuelans that
[07:24:16] are living on US soil and decided to actually make an example of Venezuelans that he had
[07:24:20] actually invited into the country and offered the proper paperwork to.
[07:24:24] And then he deported them to the torture prison.
[07:24:28] The torture and rape prison.
[07:24:30] He did all of this.
[07:24:33] These are simply innocent people who wanted to survive.
[07:24:35] I'm not even getting into what the conditions look like in Venezuela and who's responsible
[07:24:39] for it.
[07:24:40] We're not even going to get into that part of the story, but that part is also significant.
[07:24:45] But in the most reductive terms, Donald Trump invited these people into the country, offered
[07:24:51] them the proper paperwork, actually extended the temporary protected status on his way
[07:24:56] out in the last administration, only to then turn around and decide Venezuelans
[07:25:02] Those are all rapists, monsters, terrorists, even though I welcomed them into the country
[07:25:06] and gave them the proper clearance to stay here.
[07:25:10] I'm deciding now to revoke that proper clearance and use them as an example.
[07:25:15] Make an example out of them.
[07:25:22] I'm sorry, I'm having trouble keeping up with the conversation on my phone, sorry if I'm
[07:25:45] lagging behind, but thanks for engaging with me, I gotta go pick up a piece of, I hear
[07:25:48] Here's your last statement, hopefully someone can pick up for me.
[07:26:14] We really entertaining the idea that these deportations are about legality?
[07:26:17] No, of course not.
[07:26:19] I know the truth.
[07:26:20] But in order to get someone to arrive at that truth, you have to combat the misinformation.
[07:26:24] You have to meet them where they're at.
[07:26:27] And if they're seemingly on the, they're seemingly on the side of like the port of
[07:26:32] mall, because they think that there is like, you know, illegality happening and, or
[07:26:37] if they think that undocumented migrants are responsible for crime, you just have
[07:26:40] to make sure that they understand that that is not the case.
[07:26:43] And if they continue to say, no, I don't believe it, they're still barbaric, they're still
[07:26:48] violent and I'm scared of them, then yeah, there will come a point where you can't really
[07:26:53] reason with someone who is being unreasonable.
[07:26:56] You can't help someone arrive at a conclusion through logic if they didn't have their prior
[07:27:00] convictions off of logical, you know, logic and reasoning anyway.
[07:27:13] even if I don't agree with your opinion just have the conversation that's what matters no no
[07:27:17] this is not an opinion I just I I mean I have my opinions based off of the facts that I presented
[07:27:22] but I don't think you and I agree on the facts this is the problem pizza man
[07:27:28] you I gave you factually accurate information and instead of addressing the factually accurate
[07:27:33] information you try to look for different reasons as to why you still think that they're scary
[07:27:37] and it's understandable this is your prior convictions these are prior convictions
[07:27:41] You watch a lot of Asim Gold, you watch a lot of news and information that tells you that these guys are scary, that they might be illegal, they might be doing criminal behavior, right?
[07:27:49] I mean, after all, criminal behavior is criminal behavior, right?
[07:27:53] You know, they engaged in the crossing of a border or they engaged in visa overstaying, right?
[07:28:00] That's a criminal act, except what you probably don't know, as many people don't really know, is that, one, not all crimes are the same, right?
[07:28:10] Right? And visa overstaying or crossing the border illegally at least one time is actually
[07:28:19] not as severe of a crime as you would think it is. Okay? I mean, I'm not even talking about morally.
[07:28:26] I'm talking like even in the criminal justice system, this is a civil violation. It's not like
[07:28:33] a significant, it's not a felony or anything like that. Obviously, if you, it's a, it's a,
[07:28:38] but it's equivalent to a misdemeanor at most.
[07:28:44] It's not a felony.
[07:28:48] It's kind of like saying,
[07:28:49] I think we should send people to rape and torture prisons
[07:28:52] because we caught them not using their turn signal
[07:28:58] or we caught them not sufficiently stopping at a stop sign.
[07:29:03] And therefore it's totally justifiable
[07:29:06] to send them to a rape torture dungeon in El Salvador.
[07:29:10] That would be ridiculous, right?
[07:29:17] It's also ironic because what we are doing
[07:29:19] is a process here is a far greater crime
[07:29:23] than what we have decided
[07:29:26] these undocumented migrants are doing,
[07:29:28] but that's the state doing that crime,
[07:29:29] so it doesn't really matter.
[07:29:30] is you get sent to some fucking torture prison in El Salvador. Maybe then they'll stop showing
[07:29:38] up. I was definitely disagree with that. The poor name was fine. There's people who deserve
[07:29:41] to not be tortured. Well, then they shouldn't have been here. That's the way it is. It's
[07:29:47] pretty obvious to me that a lot of mainstream media is trying to present, you know, like
[07:29:53] us sending these illegals and these migrants to El Salvador is like a bad thing. Now,
[07:29:59] In my opinion, I think it's great.
[07:30:02] I'm a big fan of it.
[07:30:03] I think we should do it more.
[07:30:05] And yeah, maybe Trump might respond or like scare them from doing it or not.
[07:30:09] But I think it's also very clear that the way that they report on these topics is extremely
[07:30:14] biased.
[07:30:15] Like, I think that these newsplaces, I think that they should have their news...
[07:30:19] They're biased against torture.
[07:30:21] Well, it turns out Hasmongold actually is in agreement with Barry Weiss.
[07:30:29] That's Barry. Why is this take license is taken away? You know?
[07:30:36] Ah, previously I covered as one goes claim that undocumented immigrants commit more crime
[07:30:46] and drain public funds is the exact opposite. Um, you call us for violence. Uh, his calls
[07:30:54] for violence. Don't stop a torture cause for immigrant families to be killed. Yeah,
[07:30:57] But remember, Asman Gold is not engaging in violent rhetoric because he's using what
[07:31:02] the government is doing and justifying it and demanding more of it, and therefore doesn't
[07:31:07] read as violent.
[07:31:08] But if you were to say people have a right to defend themselves against such unjustifiable
[07:31:11] actions, you would be the violent one.
[07:31:14] And this is the dynamic that right-wingers actually use all the time.
[07:31:18] And that's precisely the reason why they can turn around and say Charlie Kirk
[07:31:20] wasn't a violent person, he never advocated for violence, he advocated for state violence
[07:31:25] and state bonds is always permissible you feel me
[07:31:38] and then a lot of dumb fuck self-described centrists
[07:31:42] will turn around and agree with that
[07:31:49] they'll go hey
[07:31:51] These guys are actually not engaging in a sort of violent sentiment or violent rhetoric.
[07:31:59] They're simply calling it like it is.
[07:32:03] Check chatters logs.
[07:32:04] I think I saw that he said he was Mexican.
[07:32:06] Shut the fuck up.
[07:32:09] Actually that's the most.
[07:32:10] Yeah.
[07:32:11] No, that tracks.
[07:32:12] I mean, it's an ever shrinking number, but there are still, I suspect some people
[07:32:21] of, you know, Hispanic background that are super invested in Trump's immigration policies.
[07:32:41] Even from Texas.
[07:32:54] Hey, House.
[07:33:02] Have you seen the decrease in manga support rate lately?
[07:33:05] I feel like I have, but I'm, I don't know.
[07:33:07] I'm still going to bubble.
[07:33:08] No, there is definitely.
[07:33:11] There is definitely a lot of decrease.
[07:33:14] There is a noticeable decrease in Trump support for sure.
[07:33:25] Epstein stuff didn't help.
[07:33:27] The economy didn't help.
[07:33:31] Trump's mismanagement is not helping, his incompetence is not helping, the way he carries
[07:33:34] himself is not helping.
[07:33:36] But I think ultimately it's just that people, for one reason or another, believe that Donald
[07:33:42] Trump would fix the prices, right, and he didn't.
[07:33:46] So at the end of the day, no matter how hard you posture about, you know, white people
[07:33:53] are back, or white people no longer have to apologize for being white, something that
[07:33:58] they've never had to do, something I never had to do at least.
[07:34:02] No matter how hard people want to believe that they're winning the culture war, I think
[07:34:12] for a lot of people, the quiet parts being set out loud is coming across as very repulsive.
[07:34:20] Because I think at the end of the day, a lot of people want to believe that the people
[07:34:25] that they've aligned themselves with are actually not as fucking insane.
[07:34:31] In a weird way, you know how like we were earlier talking about how the right presents
[07:34:34] the left as a, in this like cartoonish way, a hypersensitive woke schools that laser in
[07:34:42] and hyper fixate on minutiae that is utterly irrelevant.
[07:34:46] And it comes across as like repulsive and strange to the average person.
[07:34:50] I think in some ways the Nick Fuentes contingency on the right is basically doing that as
[07:34:55] well because if you as the average liberal, they'll be like, oh, these Republicans
[07:34:58] are all fascists right? Maybe not the average liberal, but the average left is to say,
[07:35:03] Republicans are all fascists, because they're all fucking Nazis. They're all fascists.
[07:35:09] And for the people in the middle, that doesn't always work, right? They don't always believe that.
[07:35:18] But the more comfortable Republicans get with nascent fascist ideology, and the more they
[07:35:25] actually associate themselves with, you know, overt white supremacist sentiment, things of
[07:35:32] that nature. The more people who are, you know, in the margins find themselves overly repulsed
[07:35:39] by this kind of politics, it's the same dynamic behind Twitter. A lot of people, if you ask them,
[07:35:49] myself included, were annoyed with previous Twitter, right? Like I hated it. I always
[07:35:54] like to use Twitter as a, um, I always use Twitter as an example between like Democrats running the
[07:36:02] country versus Republicans running the country. Democrat runs the country. It still sucks,
[07:36:06] but at least like some of the things are working, right? Twitter under, uh, Jack, whatever the fuck.
[07:36:15] It ran. It was shitty. There were a lot of issues. It could have certainly been better,
[07:36:19] But it's still yeah, Jack Dorsey. It still worked, right? It is like the trending tab worked, you know, there was people on there
[07:36:29] right and then
[07:36:32] Twitter under Elon
[07:36:35] Twitter under Elon
[07:36:37] Nothing works
[07:36:38] half of the fucking
[07:36:41] Half of the staff is chopped off. They're gone
[07:36:44] on everything is running on a skeleton crew. There are a fucked on a problems and there's
[07:36:51] unlimited Nazi sentiment, unlimited porn, unlimited cryptocurrency ads, unlimited misinformation.
[07:36:58] Everything sucks, right? Bots everywhere. Bots galore. And most people realize that
[07:37:06] that shit sucks. If you ask the average person, even someone who might have thought
[07:37:10] Oh, I think Elon might make Twitter better. I don't know. I think Elon is
[07:37:15] Kind of a smart guy
[07:37:17] Right if you ask them now what they think about Twitter, they'll be like, ugh terrible
[07:37:23] I know right wingers and fucking hate Twitter
[07:37:27] Most people in the real world despise Twitter now like
[07:37:32] Genuinely because it's a cesspool now. I'm a pig
[07:37:35] So I will get in that mud and shit and wrestle it out with the rest of the fucking piggies
[07:37:44] But most people don't want to because they saw a little bit of that, you know
[07:37:51] Normalization of a four-champ pole
[07:37:54] And they didn't like it because normal people don't like
[07:38:01] Like assholes running around
[07:38:05] talking about how every Indian must be killed, or everything is a direct consequence of organized
[07:38:15] jewelry, and everyone is Jewish, and black people are genetically inferior. People don't like that,
[07:38:21] people don't want to hear that. Even people who have a lot of attitudes, like lifelong Republicans,
[07:38:30] and a lot of attitudes that reflect on or resemble exactly the kind of policies I'm talking about.
[07:38:37] They don't like hearing it.
[07:38:45] So that's just,
[07:38:53] that's just what it is.
[07:39:00] Yeah casual races when they meet a competitive races they go. Oh, you're gross. You're too nerdy with it
[07:39:08] You know, yeah, people really don't like when you confront them about it. No, it's not even that
[07:39:14] You're still talking to your own users that are on Twitter still wait what oh
[07:39:18] My god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. This person is still at it, bro
[07:39:26] yo
[07:39:28] Dude, stop. Please.
[07:39:32] Vemper.
[07:39:35] Lady. Dude. I don't know. Please. Please.
[07:39:40] Please stop. I beg of you.
[07:39:47] Holy moly.
[07:39:51] Yeah, people really don't like when you confront them about it. Yeah, you did.
[07:39:54] did you fucking confronted me on my reactionary beliefs you really did it
[07:40:03] you didn't say all women but you're repeal the drive in the trove home in the specific scenario over and over again
[07:40:07] annoying gargoyle kinda stuff
[07:40:09] 30 minutes of that just for that like holy fuck never let it go
[07:40:16] never let it go please
[07:40:18] you're doing
[07:40:20] you're doing it
[07:40:24] I wish to all my ideological enemies the exact same kind of
[07:40:54] fucking nuisance peddling weirdos in their own specific ideological world, you know.
[07:41:04] I feel like they would have a much harder time doing what they're doing, especially because
[07:41:08] when you're grifting to the right, you don't really have a lot of conviction, so your
[07:41:12] heart's not fully in it, so you're not gonna stick it, you know, you're not gonna
[07:41:16] stick through it.
[07:41:18] I wish they just bang quicker.
[07:41:24] No, I don't think that's appropriate.
[07:41:30] I was just about to ask, does the right have an equivalent to these weirdos?
[07:41:50] No.
[07:41:51] I guess like the groepers were kind of like this.
[07:42:00] I think the groepers were this, but for the right, you know what I mean?
[07:42:07] Almost in a way where it's like an exhaustion of ideological purity, you know?
[07:42:16] And they did win.
[07:42:23] The left is a little bit more, at the end of the day I think the left is a little bit
[07:42:27] more diverse about like single issues that they care about.
[07:42:33] So it's not necessarily like, I don't know.
[07:42:57] Dispatch.
[07:42:58] What?
[07:42:59] Dispatch?
[07:43:00] I finished it already.
[07:43:01] Some of the anti-wokes are very annoying also, yeah, no, I think all the anti-wokes are annoying.
[07:43:07] I think anti-wokes are infinitely more annoying, um, anti-wokes are still infinitely more annoying
[07:43:15] than the fucking wokus of the woke.
[07:43:19] Yes.
[07:43:20] It's not even a question.
[07:43:26] My point was that I think for the most part, the most like the hyperwokers have quieted
[07:43:36] down a lot, partially because you know, the left movement has been so thoroughly dismantled
[07:43:45] and destroyed in this country that you don't really hear from the people who this church
[07:43:55] You don't really hear from the people that are, you know, that were chirp and now stop
[07:44:02] like the Minecraft days, like the peak of Minecraft days.
[07:44:04] Because a lot of people forget, or maybe many of you were in that orbit and maybe came
[07:44:10] back down the reality because you started watching me at the time, but like 2020 peak
[07:44:14] Minecraft, like this was happening with regular frequency, people were so fucking
[07:44:18] annoying about it.
[07:44:20] would just be like oh well you know you don't look uh queer enough to be saying the f word
[07:44:26] even if you're gay you know that type of shit was like what was running the discourse right
[07:44:31] my favorite minecrafter is engaged in a in uh you know some kind of like problematic uh
[07:44:38] my favorite minecraft and we're not talking about like the actual grooming and shit we're
[07:44:41] talking about like uh innocuous uh innocent silly nonsense that people would like turn
[07:44:47] into a massive problem, right? A massive issue of consequence. So that was, you know, there
[07:44:53] was a lot of online struggle sessions taking place, you know, the red guard whipping their
[07:45:00] favorite parasocial content creators. And basically, you know, I would yell at those
[07:45:10] people as well as like, you have to be fucking normal, you're being crazy, right? But
[07:45:14] And there were children and even back then I used to say I prefer I prefer that I
[07:45:23] Prefer that to the fucking neo-nazi groepers
[07:45:27] And I was right. I still prefer it is that most that shit's annoying right and you just be like dude shut up
[07:45:33] You're fucking annoying
[07:45:36] Versus
[07:45:37] people who are
[07:45:39] You know people who are leaning into
[07:45:41] real systemic forms of racism and violence. So yeah, the most annoying hyper-woke is still
[07:45:50] far more preferable to the, the groipers and the neo-nazis and shit.
[07:45:56] One's annoying and will call you a racist, the other one wants to put you in a concentration
[07:46:04] camp. I don't know. Like, that's it. That's the type of discourse you'd actually have in
[07:46:12] a just world. In my opinion, linguistic stuff and micro arguments. No. And we don't live
[07:46:17] in a just world anyway. And no, in a just world, no one would have those conversations.
[07:46:21] I don't think. All right, let's watch this shows something no one on the left wants
[07:46:26] to admit over the past four years, the right has flooded social media. They've
[07:46:30] move into a political spaces.
[07:46:32] They've captured young audiences.
[07:46:34] Fucking fuck off!
[07:46:35] What have I done?
[07:46:36] They've shifted elections.
[07:46:37] No one event the melt boys, Aiden Ross,
[07:46:40] the mighty and powerful Joe Rogan.
[07:46:42] But here's the part no one talks about.
[07:46:44] The left actually has a built-in advantage
[07:46:46] in this new media environment, if we choose to use it.
[07:46:50] So in this video, I'm going to break down
[07:46:51] how the left fell so far behind,
[07:46:53] outline a practical media strategy that
[07:46:55] could shift the balance, and introduce a tool I've
[07:46:58] been building to help make that possible. Let's get into it.
[07:47:03] So why is the left losing the narrative battle so badly right now? I've been making content
[07:47:08] for more than five years on multiple platforms and I've identified three
[07:47:13] Demo structural failures that have prevented the left from developing an agro-plastic
[07:47:17] media ecosystem. So let's break down each of these one by one. Starting with the
[07:47:21] most glaring issue, the culture crisis. So what do I mean when I say the left
[07:47:25] has a culture crisis. If you think of a right-wing commentator, who comes to mind? Ben Shapiro,
[07:47:32] Nick Flentes, Tucker Carlson. My guess is you didn't think of one of the most searched
[07:47:36] foreign names of the decade, Andrew Tate, nor did you think of Theo Vaughn, Patrick
[07:47:41] Bette David, or anybody else in the podcast, Manos Fick. This is something I talk about
[07:47:46] all the time, the periphery, okay? You got, if I were to bracket off, and I know
[07:47:52] Everyone in here is going to say I did because yeah, you're in my community
[07:47:56] I talk about the shit all the time about how diverse right-wing commentary actually is and how different a
[07:48:03] Lot of these like a political spaces actually are in terms of their leanings and their associations
[07:48:08] They're political associations and leanings. Okay. There are funnels. Okay on the periphery
[07:48:17] There are certainly a lot of liberal aligned content creators
[07:48:22] There are, okay, Smosh, Good Mythical Morning. These are not places that people go to for
[07:48:28] political commentary, but it's obvious that the people that make this content are very
[07:48:34] woke, very open-minded, very liberal adjacent, sometimes even more than liberal, right? Like
[07:48:39] sometimes even more radical with their politics.
[07:48:42] Curtis Conner, Drew Gooden, all of these guys, Hank Green. Having said that, however,
[07:48:51] said that, there is not a lot of cross-pollination between those guys and political actors like myself,
[07:48:58] right? Whereas there is a shit ton more open political propaganda on the apolitical
[07:49:08] centrist funnel and also in the different unique niche interest spaces. Like a fuck ton of the,
[07:49:19] I would say, you know, gym and fitness bros and the, the, you know, guys like that find themselves in
[07:49:26] the throes of men's right activism and, and politics such as that, that are funnels for
[07:49:33] right-wing reactionary sentiment. They also cross pollinate amongst their audiences. They go to
[07:49:38] the podcast orbit of the, the serialized women hating podcasts, you know, from Fresh & Fit
[07:49:47] and all these other places. And Andrew Tate is one of the best examples of this because
[07:49:54] Andrew Tate himself is like, when he first came out of the scene, wasn't seen as like
[07:49:59] a, as a political actor at all, even though it was very obvious for anyone who was even
[07:50:05] a little bit interested in political commentary, you could tell that he was a right-wing
[07:50:10] shithead from a mile away. So the problem is, especially in the podcasting sphere, a lot
[07:50:23] of the apolitical periphery content creators regularly cross-pollinate with like straight
[07:50:37] up right-wing grifters and right-wing political actors.
[07:50:41] A lot more than they do with leftists and liberal political actors.
[07:50:45] I would say I'm one of the very few people who is openly a political commentator that
[07:50:49] actually occupies these spaces at all.
[07:50:52] And that's partially because I've known them for years, and also because I'm not
[07:50:56] a fucking weirdo, like a lot of the people in my community who I yell at with regular
[07:51:01] fucking frequency who go, why are you entertaining the much larger platform of these places?
[07:51:07] These are obviously social fascists that must be sent into a concentration camp.
[07:51:11] Perhaps that kind of attitude is the reason why they don't want to fucking come anywhere
[07:51:15] near us with a million-foot pole and not even a ten-foot one.
[07:51:20] Maybe that's the reason.
[07:51:22] Because you're not going to defeat these people, okay, and I'm not saying you should
[07:51:28] adopt their worldview, but you should at least be cognizant of how to talk to the people
[07:51:33] that are around you, you know?
[07:51:35] That's a good way to start here.
[07:51:38] That's because despite all the-
[07:51:40] Being a leftist is all about scaring the hose is what I'm saying.
[07:51:43] And people genuinely do think, genuinely do think that like the more you scare the hose,
[07:51:50] the more left you are.
[07:51:52] These people having massive audiences, only some of them are political commentators in
[07:51:58] the traditional sense.
[07:51:59] And this isn't an accident.
[07:52:01] One of the smartest things the right has done since 2020 is infiltrate-
[07:52:06] The strategy has been successful, your besties collabing with modern Hitler and Nazis?
[07:52:09] No, dummy, that's not what I'm saying.
[07:52:12] I'm saying that we're fucking losing that conversation because no Nazi is ever gonna
[07:52:17] be like, why would you go on this liberals podcast?
[07:52:21] Can you imagine having a serious discourse back and forth on like, like what we just
[07:52:28] had, what's the Nazi version of that?
[07:52:31] Nick Fuentes's audience being like, hey man, you're actually not fucking talking about how Jews are responsible today
[07:52:37] And it's really fucking me up. You know, I'm I'm beginning to question whether or not you're a real warrior
[07:52:45] No, they don't do that shit
[07:52:47] a political spaces fitness gaining self-improvement live streaming taking over these niches has
[07:53:01] allowed the right to reach massive numbers of people who may not even consider themselves
[07:53:07] political you're gonna be a little today nick fuentes i feel like you're being too
[07:53:13] Mexican today or something. I don't know. You're a normal teenage guy. You want to get
[07:53:18] into shape.
[07:53:19] Like do you think, here, a great example, exactly. If you think Nick Fuentes went on
[07:53:21] the Ezra Klein show, for example, or Pierce Morgan, even, do you think his own fan base
[07:53:27] would turn around and be like, why would you go on a fucking liberals platform? How
[07:53:32] dare you go on a liberals platform? You have betrayed the Nazi cause. No, but leftist
[07:53:38] do that shit all the time because they're fucking stupid and they don't think you
[07:53:42] You should actually have to market your opinions because every leftist, somewhat understandably,
[07:53:48] but it's still stupid when you're actually trying to educate people on your worldview,
[07:53:53] thinks, I'm morally righteous, I'm right, and everyone else is fucking wrong, and I don't
[07:53:58] need to explain my positions to people.
[07:54:01] They need to literally come on board, otherwise, I will strike them down, okay?
[07:54:06] I will yell at them, I will strike them down, they have to fucking understand exactly
[07:54:11] where I'm coming from and immediately adopt my world view and if there's any
[07:54:15] delineation there they are probably impure and therefore a fascist themselves
[07:54:20] that is low key low Kirk how a lot of fucking left this operate okay there's
[07:54:28] motherfuckers in here they go why are you platforming Donald Trump brother there
[07:54:33] are people in here that are so blue sky adjacent that they sincerely say
[07:54:38] shit like that. What are you supposed to do? I can't slap all of you in the face, right?
[07:54:46] When you say dumb shit like that. So I just keep pushing. But the reality of the matter
[07:54:59] is you have to fucking market your worldview to people. And those who consistently do that
[07:55:07] end up drawing much larger audiences to their world view no matter how fucking
[07:55:15] repulsive it may be no matter how violent it may be
[07:55:20] then maybe get a girlfriend so you search for advice you find a fitness
[07:55:25] creator who tells you to lift weights you try it it works so you watch more now
[07:55:31] the advice shifts women only care about status you need to grind harder cut off
[07:55:37] distractions. Get your friends. Forget about school. Focus on making money. Suddenly you're isolated.
[07:55:45] You came in looking for basic life advice and you walked out with a hyper capitalist,
[07:55:50] hyper individualist, hyper conservative worldview without ever consciously choosing any of it.
[07:55:56] And because none of it came from someone political, these ideas don't register as ideology.
[07:56:03] they just feel like common sense.
[07:56:08] Yeah, I mean, that's also a real ideological issue anyway,
[07:56:13] because we do live in America.
[07:56:15] So you can get away with saying this is common sense.
[07:56:18] The alternative is much harder to present as common sense.
[07:56:21] I still try to do so to the best of my ability.
[07:56:25] One of the things I do that I think is the most effective is like,
[07:56:28] do you think a trans person is responsible for your rent being so
[07:56:31] fucking expensive? Do you think it's Guatemalans?
[07:56:34] That are telling you that you can't you know take time off when you're when you're immediate relatives are
[07:56:40] Are hurting or in the hospital or whatever. No, it's nice. You're fucking bosses, right? That's common sense. That's taking
[07:56:47] That's the common sense version on the left
[07:56:51] right
[07:56:53] Or saying things like I don't think you care about this when someone comes up to you and they're like
[07:56:58] Oh, what about this transgender person that was in a high school swimming? It's like you're weird
[07:57:01] You're fucking gross. You're a loser. Why the fuck do you care about a high school swimming? You're out of your dang mind
[07:57:06] Tell me who the second place winner is in the high school swim meet
[07:57:10] You don't know because you don't give a shit because not real is not a real fucking concern
[07:57:15] Someone told you you need to be tapped in on this and it's weird loser behavior
[07:57:21] Okay
[07:57:23] That's the common sense rhetoric from the left
[07:57:31] A lot of us still instinctively picture media as news websites or cable broadcasts or radio
[07:57:45] stations, you know, serious journalism.
[07:57:48] And while these legacy institutions may have been pivotal at one point, I think it's fair
[07:57:53] to say that that's no longer the case.
[07:57:56] Trust and viewership are at an all-time low for mainstream media.
[07:58:00] I think that the one-two punch of the 2024 election and the rise of Zeran Maldonni have
[07:58:06] definitively proven that social media now drives the culture.
[07:58:11] For better or for worse, there are no gatekeepers anymore.
[07:58:14] And yet many leftists don't seem to recognize that the playing field has changed.
[07:58:18] I've talked to leftist organizers who are trying to distribute newspapers, and I don't
[07:58:22] mean handing out pamphlets.
[07:58:24] Okay, you talked the trodds, brother.
[07:58:25] That's what you did.
[07:58:26] Okay.
[07:58:27] Come on.
[07:58:28] are standing on a street corner trying to sell newspapers to sustain their organization.
[07:58:35] That might have been the most effective way to reach people literally 100 years ago before
[07:58:40] the invention of the radio, but in the 20-
[07:58:43] That's 100% a trot.
[07:58:44] Like, no, I know that for a fucking fact.
[07:58:47] Century, and these are dedicated people.
[07:58:49] It's all love, but respectfully, what year is it, guys?
[07:58:54] This is an extreme example, but I think it's a good illustration of the yeah, the trust actually saw this video
[07:59:00] That's why they started the the new Trotsky AI on
[07:59:04] What is it? WSWS or whatever? What's the fucking website? I
[07:59:09] Mean they own all the websites the Marxist org pretty sure virtually every single
[07:59:18] Virtually every single socialist website pretty much World Socialist website. Yeah, WSWS
[07:59:24] Yes.
[07:59:31] The newspaper is like not the actual point, right? Having a sure project to build community around.
[07:59:37] You would think that the newspaper or the pamphlets are not the main point.
[07:59:42] You would think that.
[07:59:46] The trots are like the cleric class of socialists, okay?
[07:59:54] Yeah, they're the they're the library.
[08:00:05] Fundamental dichotomy that we're facing right now. Today the average young person
[08:00:09] encounters ideas through TikToks, streamers, lifestyle creators, not through
[08:00:14] formal political channels. And while the right has aggressively embedded
[08:00:18] itself inside those cultural spaces, the left has been much slower to adapt.
[08:00:23] or even recognize this opportunity.
[08:00:26] So that's the culture crisis.
[08:00:28] If we don't show up where the culture forms,
[08:00:30] we'll always be on the back foot.
[08:00:31] But to understand why the right wing media sphere grew
[08:00:34] while the left failed to,
[08:00:36] we need to understand the second structural failure,
[08:00:39] the psychological crisis.
[08:00:42] So what do I mean when I say the left
[08:00:44] has a psychological crisis?
[08:00:46] What I mean is at the core,
[08:00:48] the left is locked into a creative mindset
[08:00:51] in an environment that rewards a growth mindset. And that mismatch are trots, mega-communists?
[08:01:00] No. Although the final evolution of a trot could go in the direction of just simply being a neocon
[08:01:06] or being the most vicious anti-communist you've ever encountered. But no, trots are not mega-communists.
[08:01:11] mega communists are basically Marxist Leninists who really like social conservatism.
[08:01:23] I dig out the Marxist Leninism side, but they really, really like social conservatism for some
[08:01:30] reason, like in a way that doesn't make any fucking sense and has never existed in the socialist
[08:01:36] tradition. Maybe not to the same degree as like a, like not even a socials, but like a stressorite
[08:01:44] or anything like that. No, and not Nazbals either. It's just a very weird contradiction. I don't think,
[08:01:51] because like if they were, if they were, they wouldn't be so anti-imperialist.
[08:02:01] But I don't know. I just, it's, it's hard to, it's hard to understand exactly where
[08:02:05] where they're coming from, because they have weird opinions all over the place.
[08:02:13] It has limited our reach massively.
[08:02:16] We've been stuck in artist mode while the right operates in professional mode.
[08:02:20] Here's the difference.
[08:02:21] An artist begins with what they find interesting or important.
[08:02:25] A professional begins with what audiences are already responding to.
[08:02:29] An artist relies on patronage from people who appreciate their vision.
[08:02:33] A professional treats their platform like a business and structures their work around
[08:02:38] iteration and growth.
[08:02:40] Both approaches are valuable.
[08:02:42] Artists generate originality and internal culture.
[08:02:45] Professionals generate scale.
[08:02:46] The problem is that the left is overwhelmingly weighted towards the first.
[08:02:50] We have a lot of great artists, but very few professionals.
[08:02:54] And that imbalance has real consequences.
[08:02:56] Because professionals are incentivized to win attention, that means they're constantly
[08:03:00] testing, iterating and refining their narratives based on the reactions of normal people. That's why
[08:03:05] the right has developed such a strong intuition for what mass audiences find funny, interesting,
[08:03:11] and persuasive. Whereas the left does not. Because they're optimizing for internal approval.
[08:03:18] In other words, a slice of that sweet, sweet Patreon pie. That incentive structure produces
[08:03:23] incredible creative work, but it also produces an insular culture. It rewards infighting,
[08:03:29] and ideological conformity. And frankly, it causes us to make content that's just not that interesting
[08:03:36] or accessible to average people. And here's the part no one wants to say out loud. This isn't just
[08:03:41] a structural issue. It's psychological. A lot of leftists carry a deep discomfort around the desire
[08:03:49] to win. Trying to persuade strangers? That feels like propaganda. Build power. Cringe. What
[08:03:55] What if you lose or worse have to compromise?
[08:03:58] I mean, I don't know who he's talking about, but I don't, you know,
[08:04:03] I don't even think that like, I wouldn't, I have many critiques of,
[08:04:06] of the way that people carry themselves on the internet as left content creators
[08:04:11] and shit like that. But I wouldn't even say this is part of it.
[08:04:14] All right. I wouldn't say this is the, the guiding reason for it.
[08:04:19] I think there's a lot of people who just want ideological purity and,
[08:04:22] and legitimately think that they're right
[08:04:25] and they're morally righteous
[08:04:27] and they spend a good deal of time at first
[08:04:30] trying to explain their positions
[08:04:31] or even in certain instances
[08:04:32] if they're from a marginalized background
[08:04:33] explaining their humanity to people
[08:04:35] who don't want to hear it
[08:04:36] and then they get fucking tired of it
[08:04:38] and they just shut it off
[08:04:41] and then they become unfucking bearable
[08:04:44] and basically tell everyone
[08:04:47] that they should just automatically subscribe
[08:04:50] their worldview because they're right. And there is no consideration for like other people's
[08:04:56] perspectives or other people's shortcomings, other people's own ideological journey that
[08:05:02] they might have gone through. They have no consideration for like how they have a they
[08:05:07] have an understanding of how like white supremacy or transphobia or, or, you know, misogyny
[08:05:11] impacts them personally, right? They're victims of that. But they don't actually think
[08:05:16] about how those social structures, those social conditioned perspectives actually impact the
[08:05:25] other person. And this isn't to say, oh, you should be nice to them. You should be kind
[08:05:29] to them, right? That's not what I'm saying, especially if they're like fucking hurting
[08:05:33] you. But there is a difference in the way that you treat someone who sincerely wants
[08:05:40] to learn and maybe does a mistake or has done a mistake in the past and or is committing
[08:05:47] a microaggression or something versus someone who is like actively trying to harm you and
[08:05:52] actively try to hurt you and hurt your feelings and dehumanize you.
[08:06:00] You know, but you said we shouldn't be, we shouldn't let Zionists be dog catchers
[08:06:07] that now are compromised and forgotten by Palestinians. Exactly. This is precisely what
[08:06:10] I'm talking about. Yeah. I mean, this part, Puerto Rican, vegan, socialist obviously naming,
[08:06:15] because it's like a very commonplace tactic that a lot of people who I'm talking about
[08:06:21] will utilize against me, not realizing that I've always been incredibly understanding of people
[08:06:25] who come from liberal Zionist positions or even Zionist positions, as long as they are
[08:06:30] dedicated to change their minds and as long as they can change their opinions,
[08:06:33] because unlike a lot of those people, even though many of them understandably see this as life or death,
[08:06:39] because that is the case, I understand that I'm living in the Western world in the United States of America,
[08:06:44] and therefore it's much more productive for me to try to educate people and recognize that there's always room for growth.
[08:06:57] Right? So if they don't agree with you, they should be punished. What did I just say that? What the fuck?
[08:07:02] I've never, I have not said that at all.
[08:07:06] You just invented something entirely separate that is, I think the exact opposite of the point I was making.
[08:07:19] You implied it by not saying it?
[08:07:21] No, except I didn't even imply it by not saying it, ironically enough.
[08:07:25] I said the opposite.
[08:07:27] I was just talking about how we shouldn't punish people for having different opinions.
[08:07:31] We should just have a conversation with them as long as they're like open-minded and trying to understand
[08:07:38] Most people don't have firmly held
[08:07:41] Convictions that are grounded with truth and reason that are based off of facts
[08:07:47] Okay, most people just kind of go off of vibes, especially in the realm of politics
[08:07:53] Okay
[08:07:54] So if you are trying to educate people you have to be cognizant of that and you have to have good vibes and not
[08:08:01] fucking bad vibes, okay? Not horrible vibes. Unfortunately, some people unironically think
[08:08:10] that having horrible vibes is the best possible way of showcasing how real you are, how righteous you
[08:08:18] are, how committed you are to a whatever specific political cause you claim to care about.
[08:08:24] Playing the algorithm, what if people don't want to watch my three-hour long Marxist analysis
[08:08:30] of the Care Bears. Offering a product or service to my audience that could sustain my mission
[08:08:34] and expand my reach. Well, that's completely taboo. Whether we want to acknowledge it or not,
[08:08:40] the moment you put a Patreon link in your description, you're playing the same game as the
[08:08:45] right. You're running a business. The only question is whether you're running it like an
[08:08:49] artist or like a professional. So, to summarize the psychological crisis,
[08:08:55] The right learned to compete for a mass audience, while the left learned to compete for in-group validation.
[08:09:01] These two games produce radically different results.
[08:09:04] If we want the left wing media-
[08:09:05] Is it bro just pretending that all AstroTurfing has zero effects like he's missing the ball in this?
[08:09:09] Yeah, I wouldn't say that any of the fucking right wing-
[08:09:11] If we're talking about like straight up right wing propagandists, they're all fucking AstroTurf.
[08:09:17] Like there are very few independently financed right wingers that are grass roots, right?
[08:09:26] Except for you.
[08:09:28] Yeah, except for me.
[08:09:28] I'm the only right wing that is grass roots.
[08:09:31] I'm the world's first organic grass roots right wing content creator.
[08:09:35] No, but, but you kind of have to be grass roots if you're a leftist
[08:09:43] if you're anti-capitalist especially, right?
[08:09:45] So
[08:09:48] So there is that issue it makes it much easier to just like prop up a million different new
[08:09:55] media
[08:09:58] New media organizations on the right
[08:10:02] Huh
[08:10:03] I think the right wing views way more in group and more concentrated that more money the boomers and genesis have more money to give
[08:10:09] It's how right wing cycles with 200 years make a hundred K a year plus insane sponsors. Yeah
[08:10:15] The ecosystem to grow, we don't need to abandon artists.
[08:10:23] We need to add professionals.
[08:10:26] Creators who treat narrative work with the same seriousness, discipline, and growth-oriented
[08:10:31] mindset that the right has embraced for years.
[08:10:34] Which brings us to the final reason the left keeps losing ground, and honestly the one
[08:10:39] that hurts the most, the strategy crisis.
[08:10:43] Because the left is largely not competing in cultural spaces, and because we've prioritized
[08:10:49] artistry over professionalism, we have a major strategy gap.
[08:10:54] Let me show you what I mean.
[08:10:55] If you look at how the right produces media, it's clear that they're running a playbook.
[08:10:59] They engage with social media strategically because they have an incentive to.
[08:11:05] They understand how to craft compelling personas, how to invoke symbols like freedom
[08:11:09] and family, how to use humor and emotion, how to turn complex political and political
[08:11:13] issues into a matter of good versus evil, and most importantly, how to manipulate human
[08:11:18] psychology and play the algorithm.
[08:11:21] But here's the irony.
[08:11:22] The left actually has a massive offline advantage.
[08:11:26] As we speak, there are thousands of organizers, mutual aid groups, labor campaigns, tenants
[08:11:30] unions, and community projects making real, tangible improvements in people's lives.
[08:11:35] That is an incredibly powerful narrative in an age shaped by cynicism.
[08:11:40] When people see that this isn't just commentary, that this is part of a living, breathing movement
[08:11:45] with real stakes, a movement that could actually improve their lives, they take it seriously.
[08:11:51] It resonates.
[08:11:52] But almost none of that shows up in our content.
[08:11:55] Personally, I try to document the organizing work that I do on this channel, but I'm
[08:11:59] just one guy.
[08:12:00] And finally, we have no coordinating institutions or shared mission.
[08:12:04] If you look at the right, they have networks of publications, media outlets, and think
[08:12:08] tax that young ambitious people can join to learn. Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. Money at interest.
[08:12:17] That's a little crazy, especially propaganda. Leftists think when leftists and liberals
[08:12:24] alike on ironically think that when someone openly says that they're doing propaganda
[08:12:28] or they're like, you know, they, they are firm and committed to a specific point of
[08:12:34] view that that they're I don't know covering the news in that perspective
[08:12:38] people get mad at that people get mad at me all the fucking time people think
[08:12:43] like oh all you do is propaganda shut the fuck up and and get the work mother
[08:12:48] fucker this is the work the fuck do you mean you know how fucking valuable this
[08:12:53] shit is no you don't you don't know anything okay it's so fucking valuable
[08:12:59] That literally people spend billions of fucking dollars trying to prop up
[08:13:05] Someone like my is up on the fucking right
[08:13:07] Okay, and they do it successfully because billionaires unlike dumb fuck leftists
[08:13:12] I'm sorry or at least smart enough to recognize their class position and wage class war
[08:13:17] So they do that by propping up a fuck ton of propaganda networks on the right
[08:13:29] Anyway, but that's important and I think he's not really addressing that either.
[08:13:48] Rope.
[08:13:49] Spen Shapiro.
[08:13:50] Steven Crowder.
[08:13:51] Heck, Alex Jones.
[08:13:52] All these guys have media companies worth millions of dollars.
[08:13:57] no such institution really exists on the left.
[08:13:59] Even if someone wanted to become
[08:14:01] an effective left-wing creator, there's no blueprint,
[08:14:04] no training, no frameworks, no coordination.
[08:14:06] Okay, well, the solution is chorus, I guess.
[08:14:09] It'd feed back.
[08:14:11] No mentorship.
[08:14:11] This is, I'm not gonna lie, I got a little baited on this.
[08:14:16] I thought it would have been better.
[08:14:20] I thought it was gonna be more comprehensive.
[08:14:22] It's just saying the left is not as organized
[08:14:26] the right is and yeah it's not and a big part of the reason is because the right as the concentration
[08:14:34] of wealth and power and when you have the concentration of wealth and power you just
[08:14:37] hire people to do your tasks the things that you want you can get people to say things
[08:14:45] that you want them to say you can find people who organically believe those things you
[08:14:51] can scout them you can farm them you can create talent can is almost a great example
[08:14:55] this, right? Like every single right-winger, Charlie Karg is an example of this. Every single
[08:14:59] right-winger started off as like an annoying dipshit in high school, writing a fucking
[08:15:04] high school newspaper or something. And then they plucked them, put them on Breitbart, put
[08:15:08] them on Fox News. And then they, they basically have unlimited funds from Republican mega
[08:15:13] donors to design organizations to have, uh, you know, successful media operations.
[08:15:21] So, you know, there is a lot of, there is an understanding among the billionaires and the
[08:15:29] capital owning class to do unlimited amounts of propaganda on the right in an effort to
[08:15:36] to build up the attitudes that people end up arriving at, the conclusions that people
[08:15:42] end up arriving at, like migrants are bad, trans people are bad, someone has to constantly
[08:15:46] tell you why that's the case, because otherwise you might forget that trans people even
[08:15:51] fucking exist. You know? And God forbid you forget that transmittable exists, okay? You can never do
[08:15:57] that. You have to think about them all the time, okay? You have to think about them all the time.
[08:16:03] They're always winning competitions. They're always winning high school swim meets, like,
[08:16:07] and that's really fucked up, okay? Oh, get angry. Get angry at that all the time. What do you
[08:16:12] think Matt Wash does? That's Matt Wash's entire purpose on this planet, okay?
[08:16:16] okay? Because if you actually don't constantly consume that garbage, if you're not constantly
[08:16:26] reinforced with hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, fuck the migrants, fuck the trans
[08:16:31] people, fuck the gay people, fuck the black people, blah, blah, blah, fuck the Jews, all
[08:16:34] the shit, fuck the Muslims, right? If you're not constantly inundated with this shit,
[08:16:39] You might actually, for a brief moment, forget about all that stuff and realize rent's getting
[08:16:48] harder to pay.
[08:16:50] Healthcare is dog shit.
[08:16:52] Who the fuck is responsible for that?
[08:16:54] You might come to your own goddamn conclusion.
[08:16:56] That's terrifying for a capital owner.
[08:16:59] That's terrifying for those who own the businesses so that you keep you preoccupied.
[08:17:05] And that's the reason why they have an endless amount of funds that they dish out to right-wing
[08:17:13] propaganda is over and over and over and over and over again.
[08:17:22] No structured collaboration networks.
[08:17:24] There's no institutional memory that lets creators build on each other's successes instead of
[08:17:28] reinventing.
[08:17:29] How did the People's Republic of China happen?
[08:17:31] What are the major factors separating People's Republic and what's happening here?
[08:17:33] And how do we use that, brother?
[08:17:34] are you talking about? Maoism I think is probably the one socialist tendency that you cannot
[08:17:45] apply to the material conditions of the United States of America at all. This is a country
[08:17:50] that has never really had like a peasant class really. Even the closest that people have
[08:17:59] arrived at it was uh was I guess like the Black Panther party.
[08:18:06] Like that's
[08:18:15] we're gonna do a protracted people's war from my Connecticut McMansion.
[08:18:19] I guess you kind of do it with like the undocumented migrants maybe like that's it that's the
[08:18:32] peasant class unironically the 10 million the the 10 million undocumented migrants
[08:18:38] are the only thing that resembles a peasant class in this country truly like no the homeless
[08:18:49] These will be lump in pearls for the most part.
[08:18:51] That doesn't work that way.
[08:19:11] Nice continue.
[08:19:12] I've been taking the wheel every six months.
[08:19:14] The leftist creator who's made it has done it from scratch alone.
[08:19:20] That's a pretty bad strategy when you're going up against a corporate behemoth like the right
[08:19:25] wing media complex.
[08:19:26] Okay, so just to summarize, the left is suffering from three structural failures that have
[08:19:32] prevented us from developing a powerful media ecosystem that could compete with the right.
[08:19:38] Firstly we have a culture crisis.
[08:19:39] left stayed stuck in overtly political spaces while the right took over the culture. Number two,
[08:19:45] we have a psychological crisis. The left optimized for self-expression rather than mass appeal.
[08:19:52] And three, we have a strategy crisis. We're not using our natural advantages or developing
[08:19:58] the institutions we need to win. So how do we? I said, if you're going to tell me to
[08:20:03] alarm an ACP, I can't shake it. What? No, I think he's more lipped up than anything.
[08:20:07] I don't think he's ACP adjacent at all. You just saw the boots. That's why you thought he was ACP
[08:20:14] No, this guy is more
[08:20:16] like
[08:20:17] Social Democrat than anything else
[08:20:22] Wrecked these structural failures, what would an effective left-wing media strategy actually look like?
[08:20:29] But before we walk through it, there's something important to acknowledge.
[08:20:36] The strategy is only as good as the people who execute it.
[08:20:39] Right now, the most important thing the left needs is a new wave of creators.
[08:20:44] People with unique experience, niche expertise, and stories that have never been told before.
[08:20:51] I think there's this big misconception that you need to be some kind of influencer or
[08:20:56] film maker to have an impact. But that's not true. You just need to be a node. One point in the network
[08:21:02] that connects with people the movement has never reached. To help you do that I put together a
[08:21:07] free worksheet called the Vanguard Studios Playbook. It's going to walk you through step by step
[08:21:12] everything you need to do to post your first video. If you want to follow along with the
[08:21:15] strategy while you watch, go grab that right now. It's linked in the description.
[08:21:20] All right, let's lay out the new media strategy as we've discussed right now. The left isn't showing up
[08:21:27] He's not selling it. I don't think he's not selling the course
[08:21:31] is he
[08:21:39] He said it's free, right? I don't I
[08:21:44] Don't think I
[08:21:46] I don't I don't want to I don't know you guys are being cynical
[08:21:52] Look, not everyone that has a different opinion than you is a grifter, right? I don't know
[08:21:57] I mean he has like decent editing skills. I think he genuinely believes it like yeah
[08:22:04] There is a cultural force out there and that you could actually
[08:22:10] That you kid
[08:22:12] cultural spaces. If we want to win the war for the narrative, we don't just need more political
[08:22:17] commentators, although we do need more of those. We need to infiltrate fitness, gaming, comedy,
[08:22:21] and everywhere else that people hang out online, just like the right has. This is about analyzing
[08:22:27] which subcultures might be receptive to a political message, and then deeply understanding
[08:22:32] the demographics and psychology of that subculture. Yeah, he mentioned tenancy news,
[08:22:36] mutual aid or his rapid response. Most liberals don't know what the fuck any of those things
[08:22:40] are, even if he has like somewhat of a Sigma Grimeset mentality, um, okay?
[08:22:47] So we can figure out what formats play well in that space and how to introduce political
[08:22:52] messages to that specific audience.
[08:22:54] The Wright mastered this.
[08:22:56] They mapped out subcultures, then embedded creators who could speak the language.
[08:23:01] You can do the same.
[08:23:02] If you open up the playbook, the first part of the worksheet walks you through
[08:23:04] this process, identifying the niches you already belong to, assessing the political
[08:23:09] temperature of those niches and sketching out how your voice could fit inside it.
[08:23:13] Doctor number two, professionalization. Right now, leftist media primarily consists
[08:23:19] of artists who rely on in-group validation to survive. We need to build out a core of
[08:23:24] professionals who play the game strategically to compete for wider audiences. That means
[08:23:30] specialization. We don't just need creators, we need editors, strategists, producers,
[08:23:35] community managers and connectors who bridge online creators with real-world organizations.
[08:23:40] It also means knowing how to work the algorithm, recognizing patterns, capitalizing on trends,
[08:23:45] understanding retention, testing formats, and iterating based on data so we can actually
[08:23:51] figure out what works. The Vanguard Studios Playbook includes a simple creator archetype
[08:23:55] sheet so you can see where you fit and you can figure out whether you want to create
[08:23:59] or work behind the scenes. Dr. number three, institution billing. Right now we have
[08:24:05] no institution that coordinates messaging, trains new creators, or connects online narratives
[08:24:10] to on-the-ground organizers. We need to build that institution. A real institution would allow
[08:24:16] creators to share research, templates, best practices, and frameworks. It would foster
[08:24:20] cross-channel collaboration. It would give new creators an actual ladder to climb instead of
[08:24:25] forcing them to reinvent the wheel every time. The Vanguard Studios Playbook ends with a set
[08:24:30] of best practices and simple workflow that shows you how to move from idea to scripting to editing
[08:24:36] to publishing. Again this is meant to give you a foundation to start your creative journey.
[08:24:42] So earlier in the video I told you I was building a tool to actually
[08:24:46] implement this media strategy because I'm not one to just sit here and philosophize
[08:24:51] about the problem. I want to actually go solve it. And yes the free PDF in the
[08:24:55] description is part of that. If you want to run the playbook solo then use it it will
[08:24:59] help, but a strategy this big can't succeed if we're all isolated. If you want real feedback,
[08:25:05] real mentorship, and a community of creators who share your politics and your ambition,
[08:25:11] then this is the part I've been waiting to talk about. For the past three months,
[08:25:14] I've been building Vanguard Studios, a creator community designed specifically to help new
[08:25:19] leftist voices execute this playbook step by step. Inside, I'm helping first-time channel
[08:25:25] Check out the site, vanguarsudios.info, sign up for a free 45 minute constitution, call
[08:25:30] to help you get clarity on your channel and see, okay, there's a lot of, there's a lot
[08:25:36] of parts in the language there that's just like red flags for sure, but I mean, maybe
[08:25:40] he means well, you know, you don't know that I wouldn't.
[08:25:45] Hmm.
[08:25:46] Not gonna lie, I don't trust him, but I also got back with my ex like five times
[08:25:51] So I'm not a good judge. That means you're too forgiving of people and you trust people who are untrustworthy, you know, I
[08:26:04] Don't know. I don't know. Everyone's got everyone's got a different way of doing things. I think
[08:26:10] But yeah, I think look look
[08:26:15] My policy always has been I don't pay wall shit. Okay
[08:26:18] If I have information that I think should be shared, I think everyone should have it and I'm not saying that because it's like a marketing technique to be to show how moral I am or anything like that, you know, I that's just my policy.
[08:26:36] Other people have different ways of doing things.
[08:26:39] Okay. Other people have other ways of doing things, but I think if you, you know, if you
[08:26:45] want to build a, like a media movement or, you know, if you want to build a coalition
[08:26:50] of aligned channels and a network of that, a network of less content creators who are
[08:27:00] invested in and tapping into this incredibly oversaturated media landscape it's you know
[08:27:10] ideology first is probably gonna be the worst part is probably gonna be the worst way to do that
[08:27:15] but hey if you're gonna do it if you can do it you can do it you know maybe
[08:27:19] I'm also working with more established full-time creators like Hazel Thayer to sharpen her message,
[08:27:34] grow her audience, and connect with a community of like-minded creators who actually share
[08:27:38] her mission.
[08:27:39] Every week, more than 40 creators have the opportunity to meet in our roundtable sessions
[08:27:43] to workshop scripts and concepts live, set goals, and build community.
[08:27:47] Plus it does feel like chorus but like left kind of access to a growing library of tools templates trainings and guides
[08:27:54] Everything you need but the fear and patreon make the patreon free. Just stop paying Austin. You know, he'll do it for the attention
[08:28:01] Yeah, well we we do have to you pay more than everybody else so
[08:28:08] You're right, there is something that I I pay wall and that's the patreon
[08:28:13] You didn't you start ideology first I remember your frisbee videos no, but
[08:28:21] Well, what are you talking about? I literally started playing fucking fortnight on twitch
[08:28:27] Like I was talking about politics. I was playing fortnight
[08:28:30] And I've always I've always had a
[08:28:33] like if your goal is to infiltrate the fucking social media landscape would like
[08:28:46] left his content creators in every sector that's probably the most difficult thing
[08:28:51] you can do at least in the political commentary sphere there's like less
[08:28:56] oversaturation like you're gonna get a you're gonna get like a like a you're
[08:29:07] gonna try to build like channels for people who play video games or like
[08:29:11] exclusively video games while doing you know leftist propaganda it's just tough
[08:29:16] but hey you know good luck to make sure that your uploads are going to land if
[08:29:24] If you want to start a channel in 2026, this is the moment.
[08:29:27] The algorithm is pushing new creators super hard right now.
[08:29:30] And every second we wait, the right titans its grip
[08:29:33] on online culture.
[08:29:34] If you've been thinking about making this move for a while,
[08:29:37] consider this your sign.
[08:29:38] Just to be clear, Vanguard Studios is a private program.
[08:29:41] It's an investment.
[08:29:42] It's for people who are serious about making this work
[08:29:45] and who want structure, guidance,
[08:29:47] and a community that shares their mission.
[08:29:49] If that sounds like you,
[08:29:50] click the first link in the description.
[08:29:52] You really say we need to be more like the right way but for fucking youtube content creation
[08:29:55] is gonna flop and he's gonna have a while left to left video and lessen the air.
[08:29:58] Okay that's the cynical approach.
[08:30:02] His analysis is, I mean I got click baited for the record.
[08:30:06] I got for sure click baited.
[08:30:10] Not even close and then it's like big Nick Fuentes little me in the thumbnail and I
[08:30:16] thought he was gonna actually talk about like how Nick Fuentes specifically risen
[08:30:22] through the ranks or something like that. Nope. I got clickbaited. But, um.
[08:30:47] Johnny Harris on swish trains. Nah. I'm done. Step one, read mouth. Step two, get aim as
[08:30:52] good as shroud and infiltrate the gaming space.
[08:30:57] Nah, this guy's finding most of the organizers just falling into the trap of giving the
[08:31:02] answers and that opens it up to a lot of infighting. Yeah, I think his focus is specifically
[08:31:08] on the media. That doesn't mean that that's the only way to fucking win power, okay?
[08:31:12] I think you guys are, uh, you're, you're falling for that a little bit where you think he's
[08:31:18] just like exclusively, uh, you think that's his only way of winning or something like
[08:31:28] you think that's what he's saying, but that's not what he's saying.
[08:31:31] Anyway, all right, all right, all right.
[08:31:34] Listen, that's all I got for today.
[08:31:38] All right.
[08:31:39] I'm fucking tired.
[08:31:40] I love you guys and I will see you tomorrow, okay?
[08:31:56] Bye bye.
[08:32:10] Sonny Los Angeles California says her song
[08:32:21] The starlight to the starlight to the top it just begun
[08:32:30] There it is again, a sort of streaming, a sort of streaming.
[08:32:45] There it is again, a sort of streaming.
[08:32:54] A sudden straightening
[08:33:00] A brave view in the field box
[08:33:04] Uncle, you burst faiths
[08:33:10] Sudden discord at Chipprop
[08:33:14] Great names take on praise
[08:33:18] Tiny Bernie Sanders, LGBTQ Air Force The whole land that your finger is on at your door
[08:33:39] Six feet brought it up, baby, on turds on line show
[08:33:46] Three full fucking years, stop this, plenty more to go
[08:33:56] Ninety-day fiance, tops of champagne, borscht marseille
[08:34:03] A Trump rally life reaction on that's riot at D.C.
[08:34:14] There it is again, the sun is streaming, the sun is streaming
[08:34:25] Yeah, it is not a game, the sun is streaming
[08:34:33] The sun is streaming
[08:34:38] Reading the livestream, it felt calm
[08:34:43] And the stars didn't show child mice
[08:34:47] And all the ways, the right, we fight
[08:34:53] I can suck you in the line
[08:35:00] JCS react Lord friend is broken cover blown
[08:35:08] A full blown that's pandemic months are streaming at your home
[08:35:16] Total radicalization coming out to find
[08:35:23] The system you were taught to trust in was broken the whole time
[08:35:33] And all these daily streams, whether big or whether small
[08:35:41] Have helped me and so many find a meaning to it all
[08:35:51] There he is again, the son is streaming, her son is streaming.