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12-24-2025 · 5h 12m

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[00:06:00] Thank you for watching!
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[00:09:00] The fog is officially taken over.
[00:09:30] That's right, ladies and gentlemen, that was a
[00:09:43] Jean Mongolian Jingle Bells official music video. Yes, the music video is AI for the
[00:09:47] record. I know, but the song is not. Okay. And the guy is, and he's also Turkish.
[00:09:55] I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure DJ Umit, uh, this one is in my fellow manga.
[00:10:01] I think he's Turkish, but I don't know.
[00:10:05] He might be Mongolian, but Umit Dozcan is a Turkish ass name.
[00:10:08] So, um, the video is AI, but the song is not.
[00:10:16] In any case, um, I think he's half Mongolian.
[00:10:20] Okay.
[00:10:20] That makes sense.
[00:10:21] Um, in any case, ladies and gentlemen, folks is 24th.
[00:10:26] It's December 24th.
[00:10:28] I thought everyone was Turkish.
[00:10:29] No, like this guy actually is Turkish.
[00:10:30] Umidus, that is a Turkish ass name, bro.
[00:10:33] You're going to get that.
[00:10:34] That's from leftist for now showing in a video.
[00:10:35] Yeah, I don't care.
[00:10:37] Um, anyway, folks were live, we're alive and I hope everyone's having a fantastic
[00:10:44] one because today's a beautiful day.
[00:10:45] Like I said, it's December 24th, 2025, and Kai is not having a good morning, I'll tell
[00:10:55] you that.
[00:10:56] I'm having a decent morning, Kai is not having a good morning, because normally, at this
[00:11:02] point, she would be on a walk, or she would have at least gone to the park, okay?
[00:11:11] unfortunately because of the flooding the flash flood warnings and all the rain
[00:11:16] that's going on she hasn't been able to get her energy out this morning so I'm
[00:11:19] just letting y'all know hello she's sitting there intently but in her mind
[00:11:32] her mind is her mind is rushing flash floods God is crying he was a Charlie
[00:11:40] Yeah, God is punishing Los Angeles or grieving Charlie Kirk by crying in Los Angeles. Anyway,
[00:11:50] do you have plans for Christmas? I'm just going to hang out with the family and then tomorrow
[00:11:53] Christmas day, I will be doing socialism as always. This isn't part of her routine. I know
[00:11:59] it's not. This is not part of her routine. Take her for a walk. Both of you are big enough.
[00:12:04] The tornado won't throw you too far dog. I can't walk anyway and she will go on a walk later
[00:12:10] But it's gonna be very wet one unfortunately back seaters are terrible for daddy's pressure. Oh, yeah
[00:12:19] And this is what happened shut the fuck up in the chat yesterday, uh, I got invited
[00:12:28] Yesterday I got invited
[00:12:30] to play a stack lobby among us like it was 2020 baby she was popping
[00:12:41] she was popping in his back you already know I was mulling by the way you were
[00:12:45] right it was not even your fault no I know I know
[00:12:51] I know.
[00:12:57] And that's what's so crazy about it.
[00:12:59] Because once again, chat was freaking the heck out on me, okay?
[00:13:07] Chat was freaking out on me for something that was not my fault.
[00:13:11] And yeah, it didn't matter.
[00:13:13] Anyway, did McAfee take over?
[00:13:15] I hope not.
[00:13:16] I don't think so.
[00:13:17] But yeah, it was a lot of fun.
[00:13:19] What's your opinion on Boi Throb? I love Boi Throb. Are you kidding me? Boi Throb is my fave.
[00:13:24] Okay, we're locked in here. You're locked in here. You're locked in here.
[00:13:29] That's right! I'm the killer!
[00:13:33] Nah, I'm just kidding.
[00:13:35] That didn't hit gang.
[00:13:37] Oh, buddy! You guys got it!
[00:13:40] Okay, okay.
[00:13:42] I can attest that that wasn't rage, I think.
[00:13:45] Because he was with me unless he was with me the entire time to fuck with me.
[00:13:48] with me the whole time I was with you stop on me. Okay. So it's honest so new. Yeah, bro. I cannot,
[00:13:57] I cannot fucking play games at all. Let's be real. I'm just so bad. I'm so bad at lying.
[00:14:03] Even though there was a clutch moment that I had, there was a clutch moment that I had yesterday
[00:14:09] on the among us lobby where I called out both of the killers successfully and saved
[00:14:15] the game I think it was like the first the first win that we got when the
[00:14:23] imposters like whipping people up I'm gonna do the car swipe it's gonna be tough
[00:14:27] one but we're gonna fuck okay he's so cruel it hurts painful
[00:14:39] How did he do?
[00:14:47] I'm just saying.
[00:14:48] I'm just saying.
[00:14:49] That's karma.
[00:14:50] It's so fast.
[00:14:52] That's karmic justice, okay?
[00:14:54] Oh, too slow.
[00:14:57] Too slow.
[00:14:58] Yeah, didn't work, did it?
[00:15:01] Exactly.
[00:15:02] Impostor first kill Instacott.
[00:15:04] Yeah, that was bad.
[00:15:05] That was bad.
[00:15:06] That was bad.
[00:15:07] I killed while the cams were on.
[00:15:08] When the camera on was pure on I know I know I know but hey listen that's this part of the beauty
[00:15:14] That's part of the glory. That's part of the fun. Y'all both crash over swiping multiple times anyway
[00:15:19] Anyway, listen listen listen listen listen listen it was like watching it
[00:15:23] Ape discover fire. Okay
[00:15:32] It was what is this merry socialists
[00:15:38] No Santa is real and he gives rich kids better gifts
[00:15:43] He's said dude Santa is an ass
[00:15:47] He's real and he's like mom. What's the medium income of this household?
[00:15:53] True classic Santa no he is real he is real
[00:16:03] My kid is now crying his eyes out
[00:16:06] out. Don't say Hysanta. Hysanta is crazy. Hysanta be like, I can't.
[00:16:21] Every kid gets the same gift. Just kidding. Hysanta is real. Hysanta does. Santa Claus
[00:16:25] is Turkish. Don't even test me on this. Santa Claus technically comes from St. Nicholas
[00:16:33] who is from an area that is presently Turkish territory. Okay. Open presence with a hundred
[00:16:42] gift this subs. God damn. Okay. Maybe Santa Claus in this community might be a Qatari
[00:16:46] and Qatari Euler. Okay. But how Santa is Turkish just like the OG Santa is actually
[00:16:57] Turkish let's be real real Santa is real and he actually was Saint Nicholas who is a Turkish man
[00:17:07] in any case it's Saint Vasili from Cappadocia yeah
[00:17:14] have you seen the trailer for the movie voice of Henry job I have not oh I have actually
[00:17:20] says about thank you for the five gifted you must leave Turkish coffee and baklava for
[00:17:23] Santa. Yeah, it's true. Anyway, we are live. We're live. Personal news wise. There's not
[00:17:34] much going on. What is this? Are you participating in jerk for Kirk Jesus Christ? We're live.
[00:17:39] We're alive. And there is a lot going on in the world. As far as as far as personal
[00:17:48] news goes, there's not much going on in my life. I played among us till late in
[00:17:51] the night I chilled hung out with with the fam and that's pretty much it and
[00:18:00] then I went to sleep I woke up I I haven't watched the latest episode of
[00:18:10] Pluribus yet because I'm gonna watch it with the family what is this as a
[00:18:14] Turkish man is this real the evil woman in Turkish shows when the main
[00:18:17] couple finally gets together
[00:18:21] I guess I don't I don't really watch any Turkish soaps. I haven't watched any Turkish soaps
[00:18:37] but what's crazy to me is like Turkish soaps are probably the most popular
[00:18:42] cultural export that Turkey has is like more popular than Baklava. It's more
[00:18:48] popular than me you taking tomorrow off no dog I don't take no days off look you
[00:18:53] mean are you taking tomorrow off when have I ever taken a day off chatter no
[00:18:58] of course not I will be live tomorrow live and alive at the same time same
[00:19:04] place and I'll be doing gift giving tomorrow okay literally Sunday okay
[00:19:11] sometimes I do take Sundays off but even then it's not chat I didn't actually
[00:19:16] take Sunday off. I shot like four episodes. I shot four hours of podcasts on Sunday. And I still appeared on and I still appeared on
[00:19:26] Cudison Relish Street. I was on camera from 10am to like 10pm. I'm basically Chinese. I bring the Chinese work ethic. You know how
[00:19:45] like Christmas Day if you order out what are the only places that are open the
[00:19:50] Jewish tradition is a tradition for non-Christians but they go and they order
[00:19:54] Chinese food right and they turn on Chinese news and in this case is me
[00:20:00] I'm the Chinese news okay Chinese people would spit on your six hour work
[00:20:06] day. Okay, well, I don't do 996. I do 997. Or maybe, yeah, I do, I do 667.
[00:20:29] Who's more annoying gaming frogs or news frogs? I don't know, probably gaming frogs, because news
[00:20:35] These frogs are actually right when they say, hey, get to the news, news man.
[00:20:38] I am the news man, right?
[00:20:40] And like that's the expectation of me.
[00:20:42] And that's what most people tune in here for, but no one is tuning in here to watch me game.
[00:20:46] Even when I have a stag lobby, most people are like, I don't care about this 34 year
[00:20:50] old man.
[00:20:52] Like the amount of people in my chat that were screaming, oh my God, everyone is so
[00:20:58] loud.
[00:20:59] Everyone is so loud.
[00:21:00] I get it loud is funny.
[00:21:01] y'all are a bunch of redditors on, like y'all are a bunch of redditors and just, you know,
[00:21:06] hate black people or something, which for the record, it is true. This community does hate
[00:21:11] black people. Let's be real. I've heard the way you talk about LeBron. And before people say,
[00:21:17] I'm black, I can say it. No, it's still internalized white supremacy. White supremacy
[00:21:22] can damage everyone. And it can, it can play a formative role in everyone's social development,
[00:21:28] including, including, but not limited to Black House and Obby heads who also talk shit about LeBron
[00:21:35] saying hurtful and untrue things like, oh, your goat is washed. Okay. Things such as that are
[00:21:40] unacceptable acts of white supremacy. Anyway, LeBron is washed when he's a future. Okay.
[00:21:47] I like when be, there's no need to compare. Okay.
[00:21:58] You just tweeted out the dick writing video earlier and now you're doing this. Okay. Well some dicks if
[00:22:05] Look if it's a dick worthy of being ridden
[00:22:10] Then it's not dick writing. Okay. I've talked about this before like some dicks are worthy. I
[00:22:17] Don't know why I don't know why people don't understand this
[00:22:21] Dick writing only works and only makes sense as a pejorative as a negative if
[00:22:28] you are writing a dick that is not worthy of being rode okay I'm sorry anyway
[00:22:39] yeah but that's right that is a famous Van Leithen clip that chatters are
[00:22:45] talking about which I posted on my Twitter earlier today because he's
[00:22:50] going to be the guest finally we've been talking we've been chopping it up for
[00:22:53] many many months at this point you know just like kind of flirting online bagging
[00:22:57] forth you know when you become like a like a moot with someone and then you're
[00:23:04] just like liking their tweets and then they like your tweets and you just kind
[00:23:08] of like talk to one another and you like start DMing each other you know but
[00:23:13] then you just haven't like done the final you know the final collab well
[00:23:19] today is the day.
[00:23:21] They're going to be two guys sitting on a rock
[00:23:25] and they're going to be looking out at the cityscape of
[00:23:27] Los Angeles and Miami.
[00:23:29] It's going to be all ruins.
[00:23:31] And they're going to say, damn, we used to have an amazing civilization.
[00:23:35] I read about it in some of these books that's left over.
[00:23:39] It's like, for real?
[00:23:41] It's like, yeah, man, these were great.
[00:23:44] We had all kinds of stuff.
[00:23:46] We had people bring you food to your house with every one
[00:23:51] We had like go to a place tip somebody to dance for you have a great time
[00:23:57] And so what happened to what ended this great civilization guys gonna look up in the sky
[00:24:06] Think we're
[00:24:09] We just could get off a niggas dick
[00:24:13] We just hopped on everybody's dick, lost all of our objectivity, lost all of our critical
[00:24:21] thinking skills, and we just went with what was popular and what the next nigger said.
[00:24:28] And we rode dick into oblivion.
[00:24:31] I'm trying to stop that.
[00:24:34] Stop dick riding.
[00:24:39] Stop it.
[00:24:41] Stop dick riding.
[00:24:42] So yeah, I've been watching Van show lately. He's legit one of the best communicators. Yeah, Van is the goat
[00:24:49] People don't know this, but I
[00:24:52] Don't think I've ever even talked about it before maybe I have
[00:24:55] But then used to have a producer who was a buddy of mine when he was at TMZ and
[00:25:01] and Harvey
[00:25:03] Who runs TMZ and still runs TMZ as a matter of fact?
[00:25:06] and I would like sometimes do
[00:25:09] collabs with TMZ way back in the
[00:25:11] day in the Young Turks day, but
[00:25:14] one of my closest friends at the
[00:25:16] Young Turks actually went on to
[00:25:18] become his producer when he was at
[00:25:20] TMZ and I knew about him from
[00:25:25] that and also because like he
[00:25:27] was, I knew he had great
[00:25:29] politics from the start because
[00:25:31] he was one of the first guys
[00:25:35] guys in mainstream news basically to call out Kanye West, like aggressively to his face.
[00:25:43] When Kanye was doing his like first spiral into the right, he just straight up was like,
[00:25:49] what the fuck do you mean you're mega like, what is this is bullshit.
[00:25:58] I feel bad.
[00:25:59] I don't know who this is.
[00:26:00] I mean, it's fine.
[00:26:03] 25 feels like three years.
[00:26:15] Van has a great episode by podcast cover in the wire. Amazing stuff.
[00:26:18] If anyone's watching the wire, yeah, also, uh, higher learnings,
[00:26:21] podcasts, I'll be doing that as well.
[00:26:26] Why people are about to find out about Van Lathen. Um,
[00:26:29] I think why people know about Van.
[00:26:36] Like I said, he was on like TMZ.
[00:26:40] You know, he was, but yeah, he's hilarious.
[00:26:46] I mean, I'm just stoked to have him on.
[00:26:50] What is this?
[00:26:51] Take talk about his cute year in review from my account that I have to share.
[00:26:55] Let's take a look at the year in 2020.
[00:26:57] 2025 season comes to an end.
[00:27:27] you
[00:27:57] you
[00:28:27] you
[00:28:57] you
[00:29:27] you
[00:29:57] My life and also the most positive PR I've ever gotten in my life both happened in the
[00:30:05] same year.
[00:30:06] You already know what it is.
[00:30:09] Um, anyway, we're, uh, we're, we'll, we'll blast off only three more years of Trump to
[00:30:18] go boys.
[00:30:19] I don't know if I can make it.
[00:30:22] I don't know if I can make it.
[00:30:24] like it's, it's, if it goes like this past year, if the, if Trump continues to behave
[00:30:36] and the admin continues to behave like it's been behaving this past year, I don't know
[00:30:40] if I will survive it.
[00:30:41] I don't know if any of us will survive it really.
[00:30:43] They have to like, they have to basically dial it back a little bit, you know?
[00:30:48] But in any case, all right, we got SCOTUS reject Chicago military deployment, Christmas
[00:30:52] Eve Van Lathen in the building. He's gonna be here at 3pm. Okay. Why can I? Why can I
[00:31:06] act on Twitter sometimes? It's so fucking annoying. I think you didn't read the CNN
[00:31:18] profile yet? No, I did not. That's true. I did not even read it. What's Vans? Okay, Van
[00:31:26] Lathen is just Van Lathen. Okay, I'll just, yeah, we'll do that. Van Lathen in the building.
[00:31:37] Christmas forgiveness, banana peel, socialism is tomorrow. Get in now. Wish you'd invite
[00:31:46] Mark Ruffalo over this year? I think I can get him. I don't think he's that un-gettable.
[00:31:53] Was the inmate fighters, fire fighters this year? No, I think that was last year. That was like last
[00:31:58] winter, right? Pretty sure.
[00:32:08] Hit up Maddy. He's got the connect.
[00:32:12] Please wear the flowy romantic white shirt you've been wearing lately. Thanks.
[00:32:16] have you ever gone skiing or snowboarding? Yes, when I was a kid, but my dad was always
[00:32:24] so worried that he stopped letting me go on trips in Turkey because he was worried that
[00:32:32] if I like injure myself I'll die. So I think it was like by the time I got to like eighth
[00:32:38] grade he just wouldn't let me go skiing and snowboarding anymore. I've never snowboarded
[00:32:42] But I used to ski all the time when I was a kid.
[00:32:46] And then he made me stop.
[00:32:48] Do you guys have a,
[00:32:51] do you aren't injury prone at all?
[00:32:53] I mean, I'm not that injury prone,
[00:32:57] but things have changed obviously.
[00:33:01] Where do we have a blast off me?
[00:33:05] Also, I can't really do it now.
[00:33:06] I can't really, obviously I can't do it any longer
[00:33:09] because I am definitely injury prone now.
[00:33:12] I'm bringing her to a natural
[00:33:22] habitat.
[00:33:24] Do we have
[00:33:28] Do we
[00:33:30] Grenadine zero thank you for the
[00:33:32] 10 tier one give the subs.
[00:33:34] Do we have a blast off me chat.
[00:33:36] Or not.
[00:33:38] Do we have a blast off me and chat or not?
[00:33:45] Okay, we do have one.
[00:33:46] Hold on.
[00:33:54] All right.
[00:33:55] The firefighter was this year in January, Hassan, crazy year.
[00:33:58] Wait, what?
[00:34:00] I interviewed, wait a minute.
[00:34:04] Did I interview the firefighters this year?
[00:34:06] bro what the fuck bro I had a insane year dude was that this year the
[00:34:19] palisades fire was this year oh my god
[00:34:28] Oh my god, it is this fucking year
[00:34:36] Talking to the prisoner firefighters California uses the fight wildfires
[00:34:41] Yeah, Kim Kardashian posted my ass dude. I mean no
[00:34:46] Didn't actually give me recognition, but it's all good
[00:34:53] Yep, it was the beginning you want to rescue willing care Caroline. Yeah
[00:34:58] Rowati look five years younger dog
[00:35:03] It's literally the beard when will you guys learn dog terrorist? I
[00:35:14] Like the the evolution I
[00:35:19] Like the evolution of like
[00:35:21] Yeah, it's the beard chat. If I shave this entire thing, you will go, oh my God, you look like
[00:35:29] a baby. That's how it works. That's how it's always worked. I mean, this in and of itself
[00:35:35] is also a perfect example of this. As you can tell, no beard last Christmas. I was injured
[00:35:43] last Christmas too, by the way. I'm pretty sure I was injured here as well. I can't
[00:35:46] remember what it was. It might have been the ankle injury, the first ankle injury
[00:35:50] on the right. But I'm pretty sure I remember like being injured somehow. But yeah, this
[00:35:58] is the oldest Christmas photo of me from when I first started snapping these pigs. Okay,
[00:36:10] This is from, wait, what the fuck?
[00:36:19] This is from the first Christmas.
[00:36:21] Look at the thick beard, no beard, thick beard,
[00:36:25] even thicker beard, less of a thick beard, no beard.
[00:36:29] And when you look at it, when I have no beard,
[00:36:32] I look much younger.
[00:36:33] I'm literally wearing one of those Jeffrey Ebsen didn't kill himself ugly Christmas
[00:36:48] waters in this one by the way kind of corny but you know I'll cop to it I'm wearing the
[00:36:54] The Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself Christmas,
[00:36:55] what are you here?
[00:37:03] Has Van why he posted this in claiming it wasn't AI?
[00:37:09] You're so dumb.
[00:37:12] I think he knows this AI.
[00:37:15] 2026 is gonna be insane though.
[00:37:17] Dude, I don't know.
[00:37:20] I don't know if,
[00:37:24] being real. I don't know if we can beat 2025. Now that I realized that the fire, the firefighters
[00:37:32] happened in January.
[00:37:38] Like, this is the most insane year that I've ever had.
[00:37:43] Japanuary, China last month, Ireland, so much travel, I don't give myself enough credit.
[00:37:54] I really think, I really personally think like, oh, you know, I ain't doing shit.
[00:38:00] I'm not doing anything.
[00:38:01] I'm like sitting around all day every day, Zoran, France, Formula Four.
[00:38:11] I know that we're very, I mean, I flew a fucking stunt jet.
[00:38:16] I flew a stunt plane and did dog fighting on a stunt plane, which is crazy.
[00:38:33] Imagine yourself next Christmas.
[00:38:35] Was the Oxford talk this year?
[00:38:37] No.
[00:38:38] I believe Oxford was last year.
[00:38:39] I'm pretty sure it was last year.
[00:38:43] Huh.
[00:38:44] My brother got married.
[00:38:45] Dick Cheney died the day Zoran won.
[00:38:48] We were there for the celebrations.
[00:38:50] God damn.
[00:38:52] It's a bad year for my fucking haters, dude.
[00:38:55] Know what I, you know what?
[00:38:57] It's Christmas Eve and in the spirit of Christmas, uh, you know, I'm
[00:39:01] gonna, I'm gonna feel I'm going to, uh, I'm gonna feel for my haters this
[00:39:06] year.
[00:39:07] I'm going to it was a bad year to be a house and I'm a hater.
[00:39:17] It was not a good year to be a house and I'm a hater.
[00:39:20] I mean, they try so fucking hard.
[00:39:24] They try so goddamn hard.
[00:39:25] What is happening this fucking camera dude?
[00:39:27] They try so goddamn hard and it was just like, they just couldn't comprehend.
[00:39:32] They were like, why is this guy getting so much good coverage?
[00:39:34] just like, I don't know, man,
[00:39:36] because I think I did, I think I did a lot.
[00:39:38] Now, of course, we'll look at all the stuff.
[00:39:43] We'll look at all the year end review
[00:39:46] as we often do during the holiday season, you know?
[00:39:55] But 2026 will, I think, be the return of the woke.
[00:39:59] So I do think that there will be
[00:40:04] I do think that there will be some some crazy stuff happening your stats are so green the Pelosi's might invest in you
[00:40:14] But this is my YouTube like this doesn't even count, you know what I mean? This is like
[00:40:21] This is this is
[00:40:24] This is just the extra stuff on the side, you know, have you done a predictions look back yet
[00:40:28] I did I did my predictions look back
[00:40:31] In fact, it was mostly green, green light, and there was a couple, there was like one
[00:40:43] that I got wrong, but that's pretty much it.
[00:40:49] A million more files were just recovered, the department just claims that over one million
[00:40:52] new documents have been uncovered as related to the Epstein case, this is only going to
[00:40:55] feel more conspiracy, oh my fucking lord.
[00:40:58] I can't take your YouTube stats at face value, group of idiots, masses like, whatever you upload. Wait, what? What are you talking about?
[00:41:05] It's still, it's still fucking crazy good. I'm about to reach a billion views on my YouTube channel.
[00:41:11] And it's not my primary fucking output.
[00:41:14] How the fuck is no one in prison right now for the Jeffrey Epstein stuff is a great question
[00:41:32] is called everyone is a pedophile defending other pedophiles chatter that's what it is
[00:41:38] know. My brother in Christ, I guarantee 2026 is going to be bigger. Who's going to be the
[00:42:00] hey recession within who's going to be hey recession within the first half of the year
[00:42:04] trouble being peach taken out of service somehow. Russia will make strikes against NATO
[00:42:07] and the Democratic Party will came to Democratic Socialists at large. Those are my big predictions.
[00:42:10] I mean, some of those are way too hopeful. And some of those are way too,
[00:42:16] way too pessimistic, but we'll figure it out.
[00:42:25] That's how the world works by Bo Burnham, 2026 in election year. So it will be,
[00:42:31] yeah, I mean, it's going to be a fucking crazy year regardless as Donald Trump is president.
[00:42:36] Let's be real. It's always crazy. Um, yeah, he's going to be Donald Trump is doing, you know,
[00:42:42] lame shit, tracking Nora at Santa, you know, doing all that stuff to be like, haha. Yeah,
[00:42:47] guess what? We're, you know, I'm, why, why could my mom be possibly calling me? Defend
[00:42:53] them on there. On there. Okay. She's literally right next to me. Like she's on the other side
[00:43:01] of the door and she's, you know, accidentally calling me. She hung up
[00:43:13] because it was a butt dial.
[00:43:19] In any case, we'll get started here. Dangerous scenario unfolding in Southern California for
[00:43:24] or a potent storm. There is a, like people often laugh and they go, huh, what do you mean?
[00:43:32] Oh, it's the fucking raiding in LA. Oh, you know, alert the presses, the raiding in LA.
[00:43:39] But as I say, every year around this time, two things you must understand. Number one,
[00:43:45] when it rains even a little bit in Los Angeles, it's devastating partially because the Los
[00:43:49] Angelus infrastructure is not used to the rain, even at this point, okay?
[00:43:56] Even though it rains quite frequently in the winter now in LA, as opposed to in the past,
[00:44:02] the Los Angeles infrastructure is not used to the rain,
[00:44:05] and we have not actually upgraded our infrastructure to make it more resilient.
[00:44:10] So even a little bit of water ends up cooking everything, okay?
[00:44:15] And it's also additionally, God damn it.
[00:44:24] What the fuck is happening, bro?
[00:44:26] Why is this?
[00:44:29] The camera focus is so busted today.
[00:44:32] I don't know how I don't move anything around in this fucking room.
[00:44:36] And then it's just like it's just focusing on on on ethnic standard for some reason.
[00:44:43] There we go. It might be better this way, hopefully. Brogaw, Macky, how's the problem
[00:45:08] wait lifting yes okay so as I was saying as I was saying um
[00:45:19] what was I saying I forgot oh um when it rains when it rains in Los Angeles the
[00:45:26] infrastructure can't handle it and it's busted and everything everything falls apart but then
[00:45:31] also on top of that the rain the unimaginable amount of rain will cause like most slides
[00:45:37] things of that nature, and it will actually destroy, it will over hydrate the, it'll over hydrate the
[00:45:45] vegetation, and then, and then after that comes wildfires, as you guys know, because it then
[00:45:56] dries out super hard, and then you have crazy wildfires when wildfire season comes around,
[00:46:05] and and obviously last year there was a unique one in January everybody always
[00:46:13] says just if I had too much of a hectic year to do the recap of Hassan is doing
[00:46:18] it this year. Hell yeah a little bear
[00:46:25] yeah first it rains super hard and everybody goes well we need it okay
[00:46:32] Well, we need it and then and then people go never mind
[00:46:40] I guess we didn't need it this much what the fuck dude
[00:46:47] Okay, there
[00:46:50] This is annoying me
[00:46:54] You already cover the energy fight yes, I did
[00:46:56] wildfires and that dry strong steady wind is not a good combo too so the wildfire gets hotter
[00:47:04] than most other wildfires in other areas. Is this still out of focus?
[00:47:14] I'm gonna go crazy.
[00:47:15] I agree.
[00:47:16] Trash Lumix gets Sony.
[00:47:21] I agree.
[00:47:24] It is trash.
[00:47:31] Kyle owes the rain.
[00:47:32] No, she doesn't.
[00:47:33] She actually, I mean, she doesn't mind it.
[00:47:35] She doesn't mind running outside in the rain, but it's not good that she gets super
[00:47:39] wet.
[00:47:40] storm carrying what's called an atmospheric river is hitting California as we speak.
[00:47:45] Evacuation orders or warnings have been issued to thousands of residents.
[00:47:50] Now amid a growing risk of light threatening flooding and debris flows
[00:47:55] there you see some of the damage already. This is significant flooding
[00:48:00] happening in some parts of the state and we just got new video from the
[00:48:04] San Bernardino County Fire Department that shows floodwaters there and
[00:48:08] debris rushing across state root two in Rightwood, California, the entire state
[00:48:14] expected to be impacted by this system. CNN meteorologist Allison Chincharr is
[00:48:19] tracking all of this for us. We have that high risk issued for today that is
[00:48:24] a level four out of four, the highest it can possibly be across portions of
[00:48:29] Southern California. You can see indicated by that pink color on the
[00:48:32] map. Now to emphasize a high risk is incredibly rare. They only account
[00:48:36] for about four percent of the days throughout the year, but 80% of damages.
[00:48:41] Now, as we transition into Christmas day, you'll note, we still have a higher
[00:48:45] risk. It's just a level three out of four for some of the same areas. Now,
[00:48:49] one of the biggest concerns within these stronger risk areas are the
[00:48:53] potential for what they could do to some of the areas where we had
[00:48:56] recent wildfires. All three of these little white specks you see here
[00:48:59] are burn scar locations when you get heavy amounts of rain on them. Most
[00:49:04] of the water just rushes right off. It's not absorbed into the ground like it
[00:49:07] normally would be. So the concern is these next couple of waves of moisture
[00:49:11] that are going to be arriving the first one through the overnight hours
[00:49:15] tonight, say about one to a m and also even as we head into the
[00:49:19] afternoon, another round starts to slide back into portions of southern
[00:49:23] California. So we still have a lot of moisture left to go, not just for
[00:49:27] the remainder of the day today, but also Christmas day and even into
[00:49:30] Friday. So when we still look at some of the forecast numbers, you
[00:49:33] You can see a lot of these areas still expected to get about three to five inches of rain,
[00:49:38] but some isolated pockets of six to 10 inches is not out of the question.
[00:49:43] Remember this six to 10 is on top of what these areas have already had, which is a
[00:49:48] substantial amount in some of these communities.
[00:49:51] Also snow, we're still looking at an extra one to three feet across portions of the
[00:49:55] Sierras.
[00:49:56] This means if you have travel plans, say from Reno or Tahoe back over to say San
[00:50:00] you're likely going to encounter
[00:50:01] some delays there on the roads
[00:50:03] as that snow continues to
[00:50:05] pile back up over the next.
[00:50:07] Well, I can't run.
[00:50:08] My ankles are busted.
[00:50:09] I'm sticking. I'm sticking it.
[00:50:11] OK, I'm standing proud.
[00:50:15] However many inches I receive,
[00:50:17] I will be in it. OK.
[00:50:19] Up to my ankles up to my knees.
[00:50:22] I can't go anywhere.
[00:50:23] 48 hours.
[00:50:24] We also have the potential
[00:50:25] for some strong to severe
[00:50:27] thunderstorms as well as so in
[00:50:29] the flooding threat. We also have potential for some damaging winds, some small hail, and yes,
[00:50:34] we can't rule out the potential for an isolated tornado in some of these green shaded areas that
[00:50:38] you see through here through the overnight timeline. One of the key things this area needs is dry
[00:50:45] weather. Unfortunately, at least for the next three days, we still have rain in the forecast
[00:50:49] for LA. Some of the surrounding areas like San Diego, Sacramento, San Francisco also going
[00:50:55] to be looking at several more days of rain. The one bit of good news is though, I guess,
[00:50:59] I guess Donald Trump did unlock the water in California, right? As he promised, he was like,
[00:51:05] I'm going to open up the water. There it is. I said I would bring water to California and I did it.
[00:51:12] Los Angeles, aren't you happy? Once we get to the weekend, we should finally start to see
[00:51:19] it's going to be wetter from the standpoint of water.
[00:51:25] Wetter than anyone has ever seen before.
[00:51:29] Temperatures will also start to go back up as well.
[00:51:32] Seen as Julia, Julia Vargas Jones is out in it for us.
[00:51:36] Julia, the sun is.
[00:51:37] Oh, I can't wait.
[00:51:38] My favorite, my favorite thing is, you know,
[00:51:42] sending like Anderson Cooper or like random newscasters
[00:51:47] to stand in ankle deep water and be like, it's really bad out here, Karen. Believe me.
[00:51:55] Now up as we've been with you, as you've been with us all morning, what are you hearing from
[00:52:00] state and local officials about this now? Yeah, weather person torture. My favorite
[00:52:05] type of contact. We're now under severe thunderstorm warning. The forecast is that
[00:52:11] winds picking up to up to 70 miles an hour. This is up until this evening
[00:52:17] across different parts of Los Angeles. Here where we are in Alta Dina, what
[00:52:21] we're seeing as we're driving around these streets is the effects of those
[00:52:24] winds are starting to see more of that and the wind still intensifying. It's
[00:52:28] supposed to get worse in the next hour still more rain at around 9am in
[00:52:33] the local hour. Of course, the major concern here in these burn scar areas
[00:52:37] is the debris up on this way is the San Gabriel Mountains. That's also fire star
[00:52:42] burn scar areas. The debris flow could be pretty damaging here. It could bring
[00:52:47] down cars, trees, all sorts of debris. And that is what one of the main concerns
[00:52:52] of officials here. That is why they have ordered some specific homes to
[00:52:57] evacuate. And now they're going door to door. Those warning areas telling
[00:53:01] people I'm texting while driving on the four or five. I can barely see
[00:53:04] through the rain. See, see now this is exactly why Los Angeles folks are not
[00:53:12] ready for any rain whatsoever. Okay, because like as someone who went to
[00:53:19] college in New Jersey, as someone who was in, you know, in the East Coast,
[00:53:24] everybody knows you can text and drive in the rain with ease if you're used to
[00:53:29] it, right? But you can't do it because Californians are used to texting and
[00:53:33] driving when it's sunny and 65. California drivers don't know how to text and drive when
[00:53:39] it's raining, even under light drizzle and they turn into, they, they turn into Mr. vehicular
[00:53:46] manslaughter, you know? Love you, Merry Christmas. Okay, be safe chatter. Perhaps you should
[00:53:57] stop texting and driving. Don't support those chatters, actions. You have perfectly good
[00:54:06] knees you can drive with that way you have a free hand for Dunkin' Coffee and one hand
[00:54:09] for texting. Well, I'm more of an, I'm more in the Alex Jones camp where it's like I
[00:54:14] use both of my hands one to basically enunciate certain words like just say certain words
[00:54:22] with more emphasis and then the other to hold my camera.
[00:54:28] And then I also like to switch angles.
[00:54:32] So a lot of people, some people actually think, you know,
[00:54:38] you can text and drive with one hand, one hand on the wheel,
[00:54:43] one hand while you're texting.
[00:54:45] Other people actually think, oh, you can, you know,
[00:54:48] film yourself with one hand while you're driving
[00:54:50] and the other, a real pros know you actually put,
[00:54:54] you let Jesus take the wheel, right?
[00:54:58] You let Jesus take the wheel and you film yourself
[00:55:01] with one hand and then you move your hand
[00:55:06] while you're talking with the other hand.
[00:55:10] And you use it with your knees, you drive with the knees.
[00:55:13] All the danger of what they could be facing
[00:55:15] in the coming hours and in the coming days.
[00:55:16] This is not supposed to stop Kate for another three days.
[00:55:19] that's where those warnings are going to be into place until Thursday evening.
[00:55:24] That's why officials here are saying, look, we know that it's a bomber this
[00:55:27] Christmas, but if you don't have to leave your house, don't leave your house.
[00:55:31] Don't risk driving all those photo growths better safe than sorry, Kate.
[00:55:36] Absolutely taking this rain and this rain and storm threat very seriously
[00:55:40] on California. The Supreme Court has. Yeah. Also a tiny little dub, tiny
[00:55:46] little dove from SCOTUS here, 6-3 decision emergency, emergency block on Trump deploying
[00:55:56] National Guard to Chicago.
[00:55:59] Obviously this isn't like a precedent setting thing at all, but obviously lower courts
[00:56:06] will take a look at this because there's a bunch of other active court cases on Trump's
[00:56:12] deployment all around the country. And they will, you know, all the woke lower course
[00:56:18] will probably take their nose from SCOTUS here. And, and, and decide to
[00:56:29] We also put a stop to it, but who knows?
[00:56:39] Who knows?
[00:56:40] Delta's significant blow to the Trump administration, blocking the president from deploying the
[00:56:45] National Guard to Chicago.
[00:56:47] In the 6-3 ruling, the court's three liberal justices were joined by Chief Justice John
[00:56:52] Robbers, Justice-
[00:56:53] After three years of having you on the family TV while home for the holidays, my
[00:56:56] live parents are full house and I'll be heads. Hey shout out to Amy Coney Barrett
[00:56:59] and Justice Brett Kavanaugh. And today's decision could jeopardize guard
[00:57:04] deployments in other cities with us now seen in senior legal analyst, Ellie
[00:57:08] Hoding is a former federal prosecutor. Walk us through the reasoning here
[00:57:12] from the Supreme Court, which I have to say is truly interesting. It really
[00:57:15] is. It's an unusual decision and a major setback for the Trump
[00:57:18] administration, not just in Chicago, but more broadly. The law that Donald
[00:57:22] Trump used to deploy the National Guard in the first place says that
[00:57:25] The president can call out the National Guard if he is unable with regular forces.
[00:57:30] We're going to come back to that, okay? Regular forces to execute the laws of the United States.
[00:57:34] Now, the Trump administration argued that means if he's unable with regular cops with FBI, DEA,
[00:57:40] ICE to enforce the laws, then you can call in the National Guard. What the Supreme Court said is,
[00:57:45] no, no, no. That phrase, regular forces, that means the regular military, Army, Navy,
[00:57:50] the Air Force Marines and only those very narrow areas where the military is even allowed
[00:57:55] to come in and execute the laws in the first place.
[00:57:58] So basically the Supreme Court has put the bar very high to deploy the National Guard
[00:58:02] in the future and has limited to it almost minuscule slice of all conduct on the streets.
[00:58:08] It's going to make it very difficult for the president to justify the National Guard
[00:58:11] in Portland, New York, anywhere else.
[00:58:14] Explain why this mattered in Chicago but doesn't play, didn't play in Los Angeles
[00:58:20] were in Portland, Oregon, where the guard was also deployed.
[00:58:22] So I think you and I discussed Los Angeles and DC were different.
[00:58:25] DC was different.
[00:58:27] The Trump was allowed generally to deploy there,
[00:58:29] because the president is in charge of the DC National Guard, OK?
[00:58:32] Put that to the side.
[00:58:33] LA was different, Los Angeles, because there were protests
[00:58:36] that at times turned violent happening there.
[00:58:38] The rationale in Chicago is much more generalized, just,
[00:58:41] well, crime rates are high and it's very dangerous.
[00:58:43] And the Supreme Court has said that's not enough
[00:58:45] for this specific statute.
[00:58:48] Yeah. And again, for it to be allowed in cities like Chicago and the Cirque of Stances,
[00:58:52] it would have to get past Posse Comitatis, right?
[00:58:54] Right. Posse Comitatis, which means what?
[00:58:56] You're with your Latin phrases, which means that the military traditionally cannot conduct
[00:59:00] regular law enforcement activities. They can't make traffic stops. They can't do searches.
[00:59:04] They can't.
[00:59:08] There has never been.
[00:59:12] Since Donald Trump took over, OK, since the Trump regime started, there has not
[00:59:17] not been a single instance where the deployment of the National Guard was actually valid, and
[00:59:23] any liberal person that makes it seem as though there was a valid deployment of the National
[00:59:28] Guard is delusional, okay? Not valid in Los Angeles, not valid in Chicago. It is ridiculous.
[00:59:38] As a matter of fact, it was extra ridiculous in Los Angeles. I was there. You guys saw
[00:59:44] thought directly unless you're talking about a natural disaster that took place, at which
[00:59:51] point it's usually the governor that deploys the National Guard.
[00:59:57] That's not what we're talking about.
[00:59:59] That's normal.
[01:00:01] We're talking about the Federalized National Guard against the wishes of the governor.
[01:00:07] The Federalized National Guard from the White House, getting their directives from
[01:00:12] the White House. That is what is a violation of the law here, Posse Comitatus utilizing
[01:00:21] the military as a domestic police force. There are rules in the rule books against this sort
[01:00:28] of thing, it's pretty clear. And yet Trump did do this over and over and over again.
[01:00:36] And he did this in the silliest ways possible.
[01:00:42] And here we are and really only provide a very basic security function. So it's very very narrow
[01:00:49] So this decision really leaves very limited room for Trump to deploy the National Guard elsewhere
[01:00:53] They can try to argue circumstances are different, but how is this not easy grounds for impeachment brother sister demperer?
[01:01:02] Trump does impeachable shit every single day
[01:01:08] every single day at this point so if
[01:01:11] If everything is impeachable and no impeachments are coming, then I guess technically nothing
[01:01:20] is impeachable.
[01:01:21] He can do whatever he wants.
[01:01:25] If the argument's just going to be, well, it's dangerous, that's not going to cut it.
[01:01:29] Where they're not invited is also important.
[01:01:30] Yes.
[01:01:31] Well, it's a big difference if the governor requests a, that changes the whole legal
[01:01:34] calculus.
[01:01:35] Interesting coalition here, right?
[01:01:37] We're so used to these 6-3 decisions, 6 conservatives versus 3 liberals.
[01:01:40] you had Chief Justice Roberts, Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh joining with the
[01:01:45] Liberals leaving the three conservatives complaining about this. This was an emergency
[01:01:50] docket case, meaning there was not full briefing. There was no oral argument. And there's been
[01:01:55] criticism of the emergency docket. The way this plays is whoever loses hates the
[01:01:59] emergency docket.
[01:02:00] All right. Again, very interesting reasoning could have a vast impact depending on where
[01:02:04] else the president wanted to deploy the guard in the next coming months.
[01:02:08] How would you repeat the critique of the argument you made the other day?
[01:02:11] Immigrants can't simultaneously steal jobs and welfare with the counterargument.
[01:02:14] You are viewing migrants as a monolith.
[01:02:16] In reality some migrants steal jobs and some migrants steal welfare.
[01:02:19] I like that you're utilizing woke argumentation.
[01:02:24] Immigrants are all stealing jobs or immigrants are all stealing welfare is already a monolithic
[01:02:28] understanding of immigrants that are by definition coming from every single part
[01:02:34] of the planet.
[01:02:35] totally different backgrounds, totally different places. It is the least monolithic force that
[01:02:41] Republicans actively turn into a monolith in an effort to propagandize against them.
[01:02:47] The reality of the matter is it's neither, okay? They're not stealing jobs and they're not stealing
[01:02:53] welfare. This concept is, is idiotic. America already has very limited social safety nets to
[01:02:59] to begin with, and migrants cannot access those limited social safety nets, and they're
[01:03:05] not actually stealing jobs either. You cannot steal a job. Okay? That's not how this goes.
[01:03:19] So both of that, all, every part of this, every part of this argument is wrong. But
[01:03:27] Thank you for attempting to say, well, some migrants are stealing jobs and some migrants are stealing welfare.
[01:03:40] I understand that. I just heard someone make that argument. Okay, well, I hope you were able to respond to that person by asking a very simple question. How does one steal a job?
[01:03:57] You can absolutely steal a job. Look at the dominate group in America. Most of them are not in there because they're qualified.
[01:04:08] What time does Ro Khanna coming on? Does anyone know? Every time I see a flutter fire automatically my home insurance premiums going up.
[01:04:15] I just don't see why California takes Florida Washington. Just don't self insure at this point.
[01:04:23] five.
[01:04:26] Rokana cycle chatter. Rokana is not coming on today.
[01:04:32] .
[01:04:36] Migrants do not steal jobs they get hired because they are willing to work as cheap labor unlike
[01:04:39] non migrants. It's just capitalism working as intended, yes but the solution to that
[01:04:43] or the protection to that should be coming from the government.
[01:04:47] Wage Parity and proper documentation would actually clear up the two tiered labor system
[01:04:53] except that's too favorable to the capitalists.
[01:04:58] The racists don't want that because then they're like, why are we even letting brown people
[01:05:04] into the country?
[01:05:06] And the capital owners don't want that because then obviously they have to pay higher wages
[01:05:11] and offer better benefits to every single person, okay?
[01:05:19] But that's it.
[01:05:21] If you were to insure wage parity, wage protection, and proper documentation for every single person
[01:05:28] that is working on US soil, you would eradicate a lot of these problems.
[01:05:34] Because there is no such thing as a, there is no lump of labor.
[01:05:37] There is no like finite amount of labor and finite amount of jobs that are available.
[01:05:44] When more people come in, then there's more necessity for additional jobs.
[01:05:48] There's more necessity for housing, for example.
[01:05:50] more necessity for roads, there's more necessity for upkeep, economy scale.
[01:05:57] If that was the case, then smaller countries would be doing fine and larger countries would
[01:06:02] be failing.
[01:06:03] Obviously, that's not the case.
[01:06:06] The only problem with the current structure that we have is that it's one that benefits
[01:06:10] capital owners greatly because you can depress the domestic labor forces wages by consistently
[01:06:15] matching them against an undocumented pool of labor that you basically enslave.
[01:06:25] Anyway, let's continue. I don't know how much we got here.
[01:06:29] I see Cup and Max Rose are with me. So Max, you know, you've had, and you've got other
[01:06:33] cities where lower courts have also ruled against the president, but this is from the Supreme Court
[01:06:38] And this, this is resounding the six to three, you know,
[01:06:42] two of his hand-picked justices making very clear.
[01:06:46] The problem with migrants working in specific areas
[01:06:48] that nationals don't enter is because they've lived
[01:06:50] in different conditions and live in a privileged bubble
[01:06:53] coming up, coming from a country where
[01:06:55] migration has sadly become a part of our culture.
[01:06:56] I can tell you people take these jobs because
[01:06:58] of their necessity and their under qualification
[01:07:00] not to minimize their efforts,
[01:07:01] but they come from a third world country culture.
[01:07:03] Yeah, totally, man.
[01:07:05] Yeah, no, definitely.
[01:07:07] I mean, you're talking, first of all, there is literally no group, no ethnic group in this
[01:07:15] country that hasn't come from a third world country culture.
[01:07:19] Okay?
[01:07:20] My family came from a third world country culture.
[01:07:25] You understand?
[01:07:27] Like that mentality is idiotic.
[01:07:30] Like you think when the Irish were coming here, they were coming from a profoundly
[01:07:34] wealthy country?
[01:07:35] No, they weren't you think when the Polish were coming here they were coming from a profoundly wealthy nation that was super developed. No, of course not.
[01:07:47] The United States has always been a nation state that relies on people coming from, you know, destabilized or developing countries.
[01:07:58] It's just so stupid the notion that the notion that the United States of America first of all, I'm not even talking about like the United States of America resembling a
[01:08:09] Turkey is NATO is not third world. Yes, they're not using fucking, they're not using third world in the actual, the way that it's intended to be used third world as in, you know, not aligned with the United States or aligned with the Soviet block.
[01:08:27] They're using third world as developing nations, okay?
[01:08:34] I'm just using the way that they're using third world
[01:08:43] Why are you entertaining third world is anything but not a but a cloak for not white except I'm not doing that
[01:08:49] I'm actually utilizing the the I'm expanding on the definition by explaining it to people that like
[01:08:54] Like every single person that came to the United States of America in big migrant patterns
[01:09:04] came from a country that was developing and when they were first received, they were considered
[01:09:10] to not be a part of the white in group.
[01:09:13] This is a big part of understanding the concept of whiteness, understanding the social political
[01:09:24] construct of whiteness. Okay? Why are you responding to these attention seekers? I don't know. I'm
[01:09:35] in a good mood. White group, bro, no one think like that except you. You're right. I shouldn't
[01:09:52] describe the socio-political construct that is known as whiteness that was
[01:09:57] specifically designed to show proximity to blackness as a way to justify
[01:10:03] chattel slavery and as a way to as a way to create this like in-group out-group
[01:10:07] dynamic because a lot of people don't agree with me. I mean this is a real
[01:10:12] concept in politics. It's a real concept in sociology. Should I not
[01:10:17] describe things that are too complex because, you know, regular folk won't
[01:10:22] agree with it or don't believe it is that I should probably stop doing
[01:10:26] everything that I've been doing so far.
[01:10:44] Anyway,
[01:10:47] You a white foe bro black people create is dynamic why you line is always yeah black people created the concept of
[01:10:54] Yeah, black people created the concept of whiteness
[01:10:58] So they could justify their own
[01:11:00] Further enslavement your that's actually a really good take you're right black people were like one drop rule please
[01:11:11] Yeah historically it was it was actually
[01:11:14] unless you mean Dr. Yacob, in which case you are correct. Dr. Yacob is black and he did invite,
[01:11:22] he did invent white people who then invented technology, but outside of that, you're wrong.
[01:11:34] long. All right, let's continue. I see this. How big of a blow is this? I mean, actually
[01:11:54] I'm fucking bored of this, but yeah, we covered it already. Yeah, DOJ. Now to the DOJ issue
[01:11:59] statement. Let's get to the Epstein stuff. DOJ issued a statement defending Trump after the last
[01:12:05] batch of the Epstein files that were released. It was pretty fucking stupid. Also, there is the CNN
[01:12:10] article that I will be reading as well. Obviously, Sompiker wants to stream less in 2026. Apparently,
[01:12:16] this was actually going viral on CNN's website was trending, which is pretty cool. And yet,
[01:12:24] speaking of which there's new updates on the DOJ website. The Department of
[01:12:28] Justice claims that over one million new documents have been uncovered as
[01:12:31] related to the Epstein case is only in a few more conspiracies. Yasha Ali, U.S.
[01:12:35] Attorney for the Southern District of New York and the FBI have informed the
[01:12:37] Department of Justice they've uncovered over a million more documents
[01:12:40] potentially related to the FRA Epstein case. The DOJ has received these
[01:12:44] documents from SDNY and the FBI to review them for release in
[01:12:47] compliance with the Epstein Files Transparency Act, existing statutes and
[01:12:50] judicial orders. We have lawyers working around the clock to review and
[01:12:53] make the legally required redactions to protect the victims as we guys as we all know these
[01:12:58] guys are are very good at the redactions. I mean famously for like the past week we haven't
[01:13:06] been talking about we haven't been talking about how how insane the the haphazard nature
[01:13:18] of redactions have looked, whether it be the ridiculous heavy hand that they applied on
[01:13:31] the redactions to protect co-conspirators, Donald Trump claiming that these guys are
[01:13:36] simply victims, or whether it be the really bad ways that they engage in this redaction
[01:13:42] that is easy to overcome with a simple copy paste.
[01:13:49] In any case, once again, banger after banger folks, they are, we got the best and brightest
[01:14:03] working round the clock and it's very clear that we got the best and brightest working
[01:14:08] around the clock, certainly, certainly, you couldn't have had a better administration,
[01:14:14] a more competent administration handling this stuff.
[01:14:18] Never, never forget, this administration will only fail because they are truly incompetent,
[01:14:28] okay?
[01:14:29] They will not fail because they will be forced by the Democrats to, they will not
[01:14:37] concede to the Democrats after the Democrats do like a major pusher or whatever.
[01:14:41] But what Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey have shown is that even a little bit of pushing,
[01:14:50] even a little bit of pushing on one hyper narrow issue can lead to complete devastation,
[01:14:58] okay?
[01:14:59] Because this is one thing, Trump does a million different awful things.
[01:15:05] has ruined so many different parts of the regulatory agencies, for example. So when you have, when you have
[01:15:13] any interest at all, any interest at all in genuinely pushing this administration
[01:15:21] and leaning into the popular sentiment, all of a sudden the house of cards
[01:15:28] explode. Okay, the dominoes fall partially because of the ineptitude of the admin. Okay.
[01:15:35] We have lawyers working around the clock to review and make legally required
[01:15:39] redactions due to mass volume of material. This process may take a few more
[01:15:42] weeks. The department will continue to fully comply with the federal law and
[01:15:44] President Trump's direction to release the files.
[01:15:53] Why the hell aren't the Dems interested in pushing on anything he's done? I think
[01:15:58] they just don't want to win. I think they they're terrified. I don't know.
[01:16:03] They're terrified of having any power whatsoever.
[01:16:05] I think the Democrats are genuinely scared, or at least they're operating like they're
[01:16:09] genuinely scared of what may come next if they actually win Congress.
[01:16:16] Okay?
[01:16:18] What is?
[01:16:21] I'm so fucking annoyed with this camera today.
[01:16:25] God damn it.
[01:16:27] Okay.
[01:16:28] Yeah, they just, they're worried.
[01:16:30] worried about what might happen if they actually end up accidentally winning power in Congress.
[01:16:37] New fallout this morning from the latest release of the Epstein files, the Department of Justice
[01:16:41] has issued a statement defending President Trump whose name is mentioned in some documents.
[01:16:47] Our senior White House correspondent, Selena Wang, is near Mar-a-Lago where the president
[01:16:50] is spending the holiday week. Selena, good morning. And wait, good morning to you lawmakers
[01:16:57] and some Epstein survivors are furious at the Justice Department for missing the deadline
[01:17:02] to release these files and for heavy redactions. And now these new documents are raising serious
[01:17:08] questions about why Jeffrey Epstein wasn't stopped years earlier.
[01:17:14] This morning, the Justice Department coming to the defense of President Trump after a
[01:17:18] new trove of files related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein were released.
[01:17:24] mentioning Trump by name. The department says some of these documents contain
[01:17:28] untrue and sensationalist claims made against President Trump that were
[01:17:33] submitted to the FBI right before the 2020 election. Trump has long denied any
[01:17:38] wrongdoing and the DOJ has not specified which claims they believe are untrue.
[01:17:43] Trump has said he and Epstein were friends decades ago, though they
[01:17:46] eventually had a falling out. One released document shows a federal
[01:17:50] prosecutor in 2020, saying Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet a total of eight times in the mid 1990s.
[01:17:58] Now the files are renewing focus on others in Epstein's orbit.
[01:18:01] Records show prosecutors repeatedly try to interview Andrew Mountbatten, formerly known as Prince Andrew, seen here in a newly released photo with Epstein co-conspirator Glenn Maxwell and others who are unidentified.
[01:18:15] Virginia Jufre long claimed Epstein trafficked her for sex with Andrew three times in 2001 when she was a teenager, which Andrew denies.
[01:18:24] He knows exactly what he's done.
[01:18:26] And newly released emails from that same year show a message to Maxwell from someone going by the letter A, saying they're writing from Scotland's Balmoral Castle,
[01:18:35] calling it summer camp for the Royal Family, and asking, have you found me some new inappropriate friends?
[01:18:42] Maxwell writing back, so sorry to disappoint you, I have only been able to find appropriate friends.
[01:18:48] This town of Palm Beach Police report shows authorities looked into Maxwell in 2001 for allegedly recruiting college students to work for Epstein,
[01:18:57] saying at least two girls complained about Epstein touching them inappropriately.
[01:19:02] Now some Epstein survivors are furious at what they say are multiple law enforcement failures and asking why Epstein wasn't stopped sooner
[01:19:11] despite some girls coming forward 25 years ago.
[01:19:15] We have been through so much at this point,
[01:19:18] and we are just tired and tired of asking
[01:19:22] for just one simple thing.
[01:19:24] It is really simple.
[01:19:26] It's stop protecting these powerful men
[01:19:29] and protect the survivors.
[01:19:33] And what we're seeing is only a fraction
[01:19:35] of the Epstein file sources tell us
[01:19:37] the Justice Department could have upwards
[01:19:39] of one million pages, so far only 100,000 have been released to the public with.
[01:19:45] Yeah, so many more documents to come in the future. And Selena, there's also news this
[01:19:49] morning from the Supreme Court blocking the National Guard from going to Chicago.
[01:19:55] Yeah, and this is a major setback for the Trump administration. And with it could impact
[01:20:00] the president's ability to deploy the National Guard to other states. So the Supreme
[01:20:05] court in this ruling is refusing to allow the president to send the National Guard troops
[01:20:09] to the Chicago area, Illinois Governor Pritzker.
[01:20:12] My mom is watching this and thinks you're an alcoholic because you're drinking out of that
[01:20:15] black bottle in the morning.
[01:20:16] I told her it's Colbru, but she doesn't believe me.
[01:20:20] Is organic Colbru concentrate.
[01:20:22] Also if I was fucking downing an entire basically in handle of whatever kind of alcoholic
[01:20:30] beverage it is, you could tell, you know?
[01:20:35] I would be hammered by the time it got around to like 12 or 1, I'd be so hammered.
[01:20:47] No, I'm not drinking straight concentrate. I'm actually diluting it with water, obviously.
[01:20:56] Scur is calling this a win for democracy. But the White House is saying that nothing in this
[01:21:01] ruling detracts from the president's goal of protecting law enforcement officers and
[01:21:05] of enforcing immigration laws.
[01:21:08] And Selena, one more thing we want to ask you about, the administration has a new warning
[01:21:11] for those not repaying their student loans.
[01:21:14] Yeah, Janane, this could impact.
[01:21:16] Oh yeah, get excited for the student loan debt havers.
[01:21:22] Trump, the Trump administration said, Merry Christmas, we're coming after your wages.
[01:21:30] is cool. Another another Merry Christmas moment for the record.
[01:21:37] Millions of student loan borrowers who are in default. So starting in January
[01:21:42] some of them can see their wages garnish. That means payments taken directly
[01:21:47] out of their paychecks but the Education Department says this won't
[01:21:50] start until they receive sufficient notice and opportunity to pay back
[01:21:55] their loans. So some warning out there is to do that quick. As long as
[01:21:59] your enrolls as a part-time student you don't need to pay temporary fixed with
[01:22:02] something. Did you see any news coverage in the flooded states or do anything on
[01:22:09] it by chance? Brother I'm in one of the flooded states currently. I did cover it
[01:22:13] a little bit this morning but no I didn't if you're asking me about
[01:22:15] Washington I did not. Yeah we could have had it all man. Brandon could
[01:22:22] Brandon could have nuked the student loan debt. Trump style, you know? Imagine. Imagine Brandon
[01:22:34] behaving like Trump was right now. Trump is right now, but back then, but in the direction
[01:22:42] of like the abolition of student loan debt. Oh my God.
[01:22:46] Hopefully and to do that fast and hopefully people are paying attention and listening Selena. Thank you so much
[01:22:53] Donald Trump is made
[01:22:55] New ties to Trump and Andrew. I know the British are
[01:22:59] Consistently pummeling the the Prince former Prince Andrew angle here
[01:23:03] But I think is really funny because no one really cares everyone already established that Prince Andrew is a pedophile
[01:23:07] I mean even the royal family established that Prince Prince Andrew is a pedophile
[01:23:14] You know
[01:23:16] They took his they took his Princehood away
[01:23:23] Like what do you mean?
[01:23:30] At this point he's no longer even a prince like what what do you what more I mean he
[01:23:36] should go to prison obviously but like yeah he's just Andrew now
[01:23:43] know. Also, there's updates. There's updates on the Barry Weiss saga. And I'm going to cover
[01:23:56] that a little bit as well. As you guys know, Barry Weiss nuked the Seacot story coming
[01:24:06] from 60 minutes for basically no real reason other than openly stating her desire and openly
[01:24:18] stating that CBS News is no longer going to do any sort of serious coverage on the administration.
[01:24:26] And while she was in the process of nuking the story, she basically offered it a lot
[01:24:30] more daylight, even though it probably still would have been, it probably still would have
[01:24:36] been more impactful if they just released it to 60 minutes covering it is obviously going
[01:24:40] to be a little bit different than, you know, all of the previous covers has come out of
[01:24:45] it. So in that way, I guess she, she strikes ended it, but she also got all the normie
[01:24:51] boomers to not watch this news coverage. Cause like the normie boomers that go on
[01:24:56] and watch 60 minutes. They're not going to investigate this further, right?
[01:25:09] So she stricended it for, I guess, I don't know, a lot of people who were invested
[01:25:18] in it. But that wasn't enough. Now she's sending an email out talking about building trust.
[01:25:28] Barry Weiss to CBS staff is a new email that leaked because everybody hates her. As you
[01:25:35] recall, I talked about this already, but you know, I don't know, man, my mom's a
[01:25:41] Normie Boomer, she searched it up, lived though, yeah. I've just, I've explained this already
[01:25:50] with the poetic language as a matter of fact. Every job in the United States of America requires
[01:25:58] you to climb Dixxuck Mountain, okay? You just got to sit there and you just got to
[01:26:06] put in the work, right? You got to sit there and you got to put in the work.
[01:26:13] Except for Barry Weiss, she failed upwards and she failed upwards quite fast.
[01:26:19] And therefore, because she failed upwards and failed upwards quite fast,
[01:26:24] she pissed off a lot of people. She pissed off a lot of people in the
[01:26:29] media.
[01:26:33] And people in the media love to gossip. Okay.
[01:26:36] I can't find the actual, I can't find the video that I, I don't know where it is.
[01:26:52] Oh, here it is.
[01:26:53] It's pretty funny.
[01:26:54] Yeah, this is what, this is, this is one of them, everybody hates her.
[01:26:58] Like, why wouldn't you hate her if you are a lifelong career reporter, journalist,
[01:27:03] editor, producer, whatever.
[01:27:05] Okay.
[01:27:06] sucked a mountain of dicks. Okay. Every day is a climb on dick mountain and you're sucking it. Okay.
[01:27:12] And then Barry Weiss, who objectively sucked less dicks, but the right kind of dicks gets one on
[01:27:18] you. And now she's commanding the entire franchise. You're like, what do you mean? I've been climbing
[01:27:23] dick suck mountain every goddamn day. You mean to tell me that you could helicopter your way to
[01:27:28] the top because you sucked one cock? That's bullsh**. And then also obviously there's people
[01:27:32] that are doing good work as well. Say metaphorical dicks just to be safe, yeah of course I'm talking
[01:27:37] about not real dick. That's it. Bro there had to be a better analogy. No I stand on this.
[01:27:46] I think this was a pretty solid analogy. Like anyone who's worked a real job knows
[01:27:52] you just gotta fucking play ball. It sucks. It's not even like just ass kissing. It's
[01:27:57] everything. It's ass kissing and also simultaneously putting in the fucking work. Okay. Sometimes,
[01:28:05] sometimes you just gotta crack your knuckles, roll up your sleeves and get to town on Dixxuck
[01:28:12] Mountain. Okay. That's it. That's what a job, that's what a job feels like to me. Okay.
[01:28:19] Okay? And the reality of the matter is, sometimes people don't actually put in the work, you
[01:28:32] know, they don't put their hair in a ponytail. They don't, they don't crack the knuckles.
[01:28:37] They just get elevated to the top. Okay? And when someone does that, all the other people
[01:28:47] look at that, yes, I mean a real job. All the other people that are that are at varying
[01:28:54] different levels on, you know, Dick's dog mountain, they're gonna look up and be like,
[01:28:59] how the fuck you get there? You weren't you weren't with us. You were not here with
[01:29:07] us at the bottom. You were not here with us in the middle. Okay. You went straight
[01:29:16] to the top and that creates a lot of resentment and also not only does it
[01:29:21] create a lot of resentment from others but also you didn't even do any of the
[01:29:28] work you didn't even do any of the necessary work so now you're in
[01:29:32] experience sitting at the top and that is the problem okay that's the problem
[01:29:40] Some examples of this obviously are Cache Patel as the director of the FBI, right?
[01:29:48] Donald Trump likes him, puts him in charge of the FBI, all of a sudden,
[01:29:52] FBI's fallen apart. Dan Bongino, another great example. Alina Habba,
[01:29:58] another great example as attorney general. There are a million examples of this,
[01:30:03] as a matter of fact, with Donald Trump and the Donald Trump reign.
[01:30:13] When you put the biggest brown noses in the highest, when you place an emphasis on loyalty
[01:30:22] over competence, you arrive at the current situation that we're in.
[01:30:34] So yeah, Barry Weiss sends up, this email says, Hi all, right now the majority of Americans
[01:30:42] say they do not trust the press. It isn't because they're crazy. To win back their
[01:30:46] trust we have to work hard. Sometimes that means doing more legwork. Sometimes it means
[01:30:49] telling unexpected stories. Now remember, the reason why all of this stuff gets leaked is because
[01:30:54] everybody hates her, okay? For good reason. Mostly there's like jealousy as well, but
[01:31:01] most of the people hate her because they're like, you have never done,
[01:31:06] you have never done any real journalism. Like you've never worked in a newsroom,
[01:31:12] you did op-eds for the New York Times, you tried to get fired, so you could,
[01:31:17] you tried to get fired from the New York Times when you had this cushy op-ed job as the liberal
[01:31:23] adjacent conservative voice in the New York Times because they wanted to do, you know, ideological
[01:31:28] diversity for their dumbass readership, okay? And they wouldn't even fire you so you could
[01:31:36] kickstart your, I got fired from the New York Times for being right-winged grift.
[01:31:41] You basically fired yourself, because this is real.
[01:31:45] This is what happened with Barry White.
[01:31:47] She was at the New York Times.
[01:31:49] She famously did that one piece on the intellectual dark web where she called Ben Shapiro a gladiator,
[01:31:54] an intellectual gladiator of the right.
[01:31:58] And she was so unlikeable, and yet she could not get fired.
[01:32:04] The New York Times was like, no, we love your stupid, you know, liberal, adjacent,
[01:32:09] Conservative commentary, right? We're a big fan of that. We love that shit. Have you seen the other op-ed people?
[01:32:15] Are you kidding me? This is our bread and butter.
[01:32:18] So
[01:32:20] She just could not get far over the New York Times as you can start her grift. So instead she
[01:32:25] resigned and then basically said
[01:32:29] Do you mean New York Post? No, New York Times. Barry was at the New York Times. She resigned and
[01:32:34] And turned around and said they were bullying me. There was bad workplace culture. I had to self
[01:32:41] I had to self fire myself and then she went to the same billionaires that she was already
[01:32:48] You know, she was already caping for and those billionaires gave her unlimited funds to start the
[01:32:54] Unaccredited University Austin University, which you know, I've covered in the past and also
[01:33:01] start the free press to peddle the exact same garbanzo that she was peddling at
[01:33:07] the New York Times and the Opet side. Okay. And now failure after failure she has
[01:33:16] received seemingly the only kind of upward social mobility that exists in
[01:33:20] any industry. Okay.
[01:33:25] But that's precisely the reason why everybody around her all of her colleagues fucking hate her
[01:33:34] There will be some
[01:33:36] There will be some who think oh well
[01:33:39] If Barry wise can do it. I can do it as well, right? If Barry wise can reach the top by
[01:33:46] Sucking up to billionaires. I can also do it as well
[01:33:49] But for the most part a lot of people get annoyed because they look at this and go you don't deserve this
[01:33:54] They either look at this with jealousy and say, you know, you didn't put in the work at all,
[01:33:59] you're incompetent and you're unlikable and you don't deserve this.
[01:34:02] But then there's a lot of people who understandably get upset with her because she is incompetent.
[01:34:09] She is incompetent. She does not have the experience. She's never led a newsroom.
[01:34:17] Her experience in commanding a news team in AirQuest is at the free press and that wasn't a real newsroom at all.
[01:34:23] They didn't do any new reporting.
[01:34:27] They just pumped out the same tablet magazine article about how Jews are being killed in
[01:34:34] the upper west side of New York City a million times over, okay?
[01:34:40] And then every now and then they get really crazy with it and do Jerusalem post-isle
[01:34:43] coverage on how, you know, the Gaza famine is actually a myth, that's it.
[01:34:49] That was her job.
[01:34:51] about the campus folks as first hysterical, silly folk, and then as the greatest threat
[01:35:03] to American democracy.
[01:35:10] That was their job.
[01:35:11] That was their position.
[01:35:12] And then every now and then talking about how like AI is great actually and billionaires
[01:35:15] should billionaires deserve more.
[01:35:18] I
[01:35:24] Asked because I'm genuinely curious not to be a physician asshole, but what kind of jobs if you work pre content creation my climb on Dixxuck mountain started at
[01:35:33] Advertisement sales my friend
[01:35:36] Where you do it both literally and figuratively
[01:35:42] Awful
[01:35:43] Anyone who's ever worked in sales will tell you it's the fucking shittiest thing and it rewards
[01:35:50] people who are sociopaths
[01:36:04] It sucks
[01:36:06] Anyway
[01:36:08] To win back their trust we have to work hard
[01:36:10] Sometimes it means doing more legwork. Sometimes it means telling unexpected stories.
[01:36:14] Sometimes it means training our attention on topics that have been overlooked or misconstrued.
[01:36:17] And sometimes it means holding a piece about an important subject to make sure it's comprehensive and fair.
[01:36:21] I love that she's like now tripling down on why she, uh, she nuked the sea cod piece in our upside down moment.
[01:36:29] This may seem radical. Such editorial decisions can cause a firestorm, particularly on a snow, slow news week.
[01:36:34] This was not a slow news week, lady.
[01:36:37] What the fuck are you talking about?
[01:36:41] Slow news week?
[01:36:43] For who?
[01:36:45] The Epstein files were like a like a nuclear bomb that was set off.
[01:36:52] How is this a slow news week?
[01:36:55] And the standards for fairness we are holding ourselves to particularly on contentious subjects will surely feel controversial
[01:37:00] To those used to doing things one way, but to fulfill our mission. It's necessary now
[01:37:05] Now what I find really funny about this stuff is I always ask myself, who is this for?
[01:37:12] Because she knows this is gonna leak.
[01:37:16] She knows this email is gonna leak.
[01:37:17] She knows everybody in the news team hates her for good reason, for the reasons that
[01:37:22] I just described.
[01:37:25] So who is this for?
[01:37:27] you when you tried to make it seem as though the C cop piece was not ready to go when this
[01:37:38] when you claim that the C cop pieces is not ready to go and it's actually a matter of
[01:37:43] journalistic integrity when you have none and everybody knows you have none you're
[01:37:49] just gonna piss off your news team further because they were all in unison saying
[01:37:55] that the piece was actually airtight and totally ready to be delivered. So much so that they
[01:38:01] actually cut trailers off of it. So much so that they actually put it on international
[01:38:06] distribution that's why it actually aired in Canada. It was very stupid of her to try
[01:38:12] and spike it at the last second too if she had maybe spiked it beforehand. If she
[01:38:20] it spiked it before prior to the trailer being released and prior to like this being okayed
[01:38:27] for international distribution potentially it could have been avoided but because she's also
[01:38:32] doubly incompetent she waited till the very last moment until she figured out this is not a good
[01:38:35] idea let's spike it in any case continuously defending this as though it's like some sort
[01:38:44] sort of principled stance for true journalism is so stupid, especially because the people
[01:38:53] that worked on this piece, regardless of their ideological predispositions, regardless of
[01:38:59] how much they previously have done pro-Israel or pro-American State Department propaganda,
[01:39:05] are a million times better journalists than Barry Weiss, because Barry Weiss is not
[01:39:10] a journalist. Do you understand? Like, those people, even if I disagree with what they do
[01:39:22] from time to time, are still doing investigative reporting, okay? You are not. Not only do
[01:39:32] you want bias reporting, not only do you want reporting that actually favors the Trump
[01:39:36] administration but you don't even want to do the work like at this point I would
[01:39:41] say Project Veritas does a better job of like at least presenting themselves as
[01:39:46] real investigative reporters than fucking Barry Weiss does. I despise Project
[01:39:51] Veritas, they do hatchet jobs, they lie, they cheat, they edit things deceptively
[01:39:57] but at least they go out and put people on the field and like try to
[01:40:00] fucking film them secretly and make real like make new news right make original reporting
[01:40:07] happen even if it's very clearly filled with lies and unethical they're still at the very
[01:40:14] least trying to make original reporting happen very wise not even doing that.
[01:40:21] She is commanding a ginormous news team and she's not even invested in creating you
[01:40:29] You know, investigative reporting in the direction of the Trump administration that suits their
[01:40:33] propagandistic purpose.
[01:40:37] It's triply incompetent in that regard.
[01:40:40] It's pretty funny.
[01:40:41] No amount of outrage, whether from activist organizations or the White House, will derail
[01:40:44] us.
[01:40:45] We are not out to score points with one side of the political spectrum or wind followers
[01:40:48] on social media.
[01:40:49] We are out to inform the American public and get the story right.
[01:40:51] Restoring the integrity of the news is a difficult task.
[01:40:53] We can't think of a more important one.
[01:40:54] Merry Christmas and thank you, especially to everyone who's working over this holiday.
[01:40:57] is Barry Tom Charles Adam. Of course, Charles Gasparino, one of the, uh, you know, Fox business
[01:41:04] guys who I guess this is specifically this kind of message is specifically tailored for
[01:41:08] says, I know Barry wise is getting a lot of heat for the pull 60 minutes piece. But if
[01:41:13] this comes down to the show, not airing White House comments, her attackers are going
[01:41:16] to look very dumb in short order. That's reporting one on one. Even in the cop, even
[01:41:20] if the comments are spin, you have to run them in any piece of this kind. Now
[01:41:24] Now what's really stupid about this is, of course 60 minutes reached out to the fucking White House.
[01:41:29] They did, and the White House said, no.
[01:41:32] The White House didn't respond for comments.
[01:41:46] Like, what are we doing?
[01:41:50] So, going forward, going forward, it's just an automatic veto.
[01:42:01] Anytime the White House does not respond, is the automatic veto on a piece?
[01:42:09] Is that how journalism is supposed to be conducted?
[01:42:12] Are you fucking crazy?
[01:42:14] Anyway, this one is for the journalism nerds in the chat, and I know there's plenty.
[01:42:20] I know there's plenty of people in this chat that do care about this stuff.
[01:42:23] I don't think like the average person cares about this.
[01:42:25] But ironically enough, Barry Weiss's actions is exactly in line with why people despise
[01:42:34] the media, okay?
[01:42:38] It's this kind of attitude.
[01:42:40] It's this kind of propaganda that makes people not trust the media, okay?
[01:42:48] You can try to spike a Seacop story by claiming, oh, well, the administration didn't actually
[01:42:55] reach, did not respond to our request for comment.
[01:42:59] So I guess we have to, you know, we have to take a step back and never really release
[01:43:05] any investigative reporting unless they actually reach out.
[01:43:09] That's exactly the type of shit that people get pissed off about.
[01:43:15] Okay.
[01:43:17] You cannot apply this standard as long as, as long as your reporters are reaching out to principles for comment, they're doing their due diligence, especially if they wait for an extended period of time.
[01:43:36] It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
[01:43:44] This would mean that every single piece of news
[01:43:47] that comes out of CBS News going forward
[01:43:51] will either require the government's perspective,
[01:43:55] which again, turns this into State Department propaganda
[01:43:58] or just regime propaganda basically,
[01:44:03] or you just get a auto veto.
[01:44:08] And for the record, the White House did respond
[01:44:10] As 60 minutes finalized, it's inside Seacaw Report last Thursday.
[01:44:16] CBS sent the White House a request for comment.
[01:44:18] A White House spokesperson responded within a few hours.
[01:44:20] The quote was not included in the 60 reports.
[01:44:22] So judge for yourself whether it should have been included.
[01:44:24] The White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson said 60 minutes should spend their time
[01:44:27] and energy amplifying the stories of angel parents whose innocent American children
[01:44:31] have tragically been murdered by vicious illegal aliens that President Trump are
[01:44:33] removing from the country.
[01:44:36] That's not a comment on the story.
[01:44:39] a misdirection. You are under no obligation to report that in the news piece that is supposed
[01:44:45] to feature the conditions of American migrants that legally came into the United States of
[01:44:52] America or even undocumented migrants that came into the United States of America that
[01:44:57] were sent to CCOT without due process for no fucking reason where they actually experienced
[01:45:08] rape and other torturous conditions
[01:45:21] eerily similar to the events that led to sixty minutes facing conflicts of
[01:45:24] interest in a merger spiking the biggest public health whistleblower story of the
[01:45:27] era
[01:45:27] and producer loll bergman quitting depicted here in the insider here
[01:45:31] and what are you in
[01:45:35] Uh, more vested interests.
[01:45:37] Persons who will profit from this merger.
[01:45:39] Ms. Helen Caparelli, general counsel of CBS News.
[01:45:43] 3.9 million.
[01:45:45] Mr. Eric Cluster, president of CBS News.
[01:45:48] 1.4 million.
[01:45:51] Are you suggesting that she and Eric
[01:45:53] are influenced by money?
[01:45:54] No, no.
[01:45:55] Of course they're not influenced by money.
[01:45:56] They work for free.
[01:45:58] And you are a volunteer executive producer.
[01:46:01] The CBS does not do that.
[01:46:03] And you're questioning our journalistic integrity.
[01:46:05] No, I'm questioning your hearing.
[01:46:06] You hear reasonable and tortuous interference.
[01:46:09] I hear potential Brown and Williamson lawsuit
[01:46:12] jeopardizing the sale of CBS to Westinghouse.
[01:46:15] I hear shut the segment down, cut YGAN loose, obey orders,
[01:46:20] and fuck off.
[01:46:21] That's what I hear.
[01:46:22] Exaggerated.
[01:46:22] I am.
[01:46:23] You pay me to go get guys like YGAN, to draw him out,
[01:46:28] to get him to trust us, to get him to go on television.
[01:46:30] I do.
[01:46:31] I deliver him.
[01:46:32] He sits.
[01:46:33] He talks.
[01:46:33] he violates his own fucking confidentiality agreement.
[01:46:37] And he's only the key witness in the biggest public health reform issue,
[01:46:41] maybe the biggest, most expensive corporate malfeasance case in US history.
[01:46:46] And Jeffrey Wygan, who's out on a limb, does he go on television and tell the truth?
[01:46:51] Yes.
[01:46:52] Is it newsworthy?
[01:46:53] Yes.
[01:46:54] Are we going to air it?
[01:46:56] Of course not.
[01:46:58] Why?
[01:46:58] Because he's not telling the truth.
[01:47:00] No, because he is telling the truth.
[01:47:03] That's why we're not going to air it.
[01:47:04] And the more truth he tells, the worse it gets.
[01:47:07] You are a fanatic and anarchist, you know that?
[01:47:11] If we can't have a whole show, then I want half a show
[01:47:13] rather than no show.
[01:47:15] But oh no, not you.
[01:47:16] You won't be satisfied unless you're putting
[01:47:17] the company in risk.
[01:47:18] What are you?
[01:47:19] Are you a businessman or are you a newsman?
[01:47:22] Because that happens to be what Mike and I
[01:47:24] and some other people around here do for a living.
[01:47:27] Put the corporation at risk.
[01:47:28] Give me a fucking break.
[01:47:30] These people are putting our whole reason
[01:47:33] for doing what we do on the line.
[01:47:35] Well, what?
[01:47:37] I was dawn on this.
[01:47:42] I mean, if we have a functional entertainment industry
[01:47:47] and a functional Hollywood 20 years down the line,
[01:47:51] maybe they'll do a story on Barry Weiss as well
[01:47:54] in a similar fashion.
[01:48:00] The Insider is a 1999 American biographical drama directed by Michael Mann and written
[01:48:17] by Mann and Eric Roth based on Mary Brenner's 1996 Vanity Fair article, The Man Who Knew
[01:48:23] Too Much.
[01:48:25] A fictionalized account of a true story is centers on the controversial 60 minute segment
[01:48:31] about Jeffrey Wygan, a whistleblower in the tobacco industry, covering his and his CBS producer
[01:48:37] Lowell Bergman's struggles as they defend his testimony against efforts to discredit and
[01:48:43] suppress it by CBS and Wygan's former employer.
[01:48:48] Here it is.
[01:48:49] what that's what this snippet is from. 1999 movie lessons have not been learned? No, of
[01:48:59] course not. Also, here was, yes, Steve Miller basically going on television and giving the
[01:49:13] the game away. Miller, this is what Steve Miller was asked what his opinion was about the the
[01:49:20] 60 minutes saga with Barry Weiss and this is what he said.
[01:49:23] And every one of those producers at 60 minutes, engaging this revolt, fire them. Clean house,
[01:49:28] fire them. That's what I say, Charlie. And yet, everyone.
[01:49:33] Nice, man. Oh, they're not doing regime propaganda. Oh, they're not doing regime propaganda.
[01:49:40] it fucking fire him it's that simple god damn he's such a god damn weasel dude
[01:49:46] he is such a weasel I hate this son of a bitch so much
[01:49:53] you and the majority report both brought up the insider this week I mean it's a
[01:49:57] direct one-to-one it's from the same exact it is from the same exact news
[01:50:04] segment. 60 Minutes has been around for a very long time, okay? And it is supposed to
[01:50:12] be like premier investigative reporting. It obviously still very much plays the role of
[01:50:20] State Department propaganda. 60 Minutes at its peak was still obviously working with,
[01:50:25] know, with Mossad, or they did that famous piece on how, how, how Mossad had pulled off
[01:50:33] the greatest act of terror, the Beeper assassinations that killed children, right?
[01:50:45] The problem here in the way that Barry Weiss is moving is that if you want to do good
[01:50:52] propaganda, you still every now and then have to criticize the government so you have at
[01:50:59] least the veneer of credibility.
[01:51:02] This is a reality that experienced news broadcasters in places like the New York Times understand.
[01:51:08] If she had actually put in work at the New York Times instead of fucking dicking around,
[01:51:14] she would have recognized that.
[01:51:16] From the outsider as an outsider, I can see this reality.
[01:51:21] This is a big part of my criticisms of the New York Times.
[01:51:24] Whenever New York Times will do like a good piece of investigative reporting, I always
[01:51:29] tell you, especially on like, you know, especially on, on the plate of Palestinians or whatever,
[01:51:34] you guys go, what the fuck?
[01:51:35] Why are they doing this?
[01:51:36] And I tell you all the time, it's because there is a push and pull here.
[01:51:39] If they just go all push, no pull, people are eventually going to say, oh, I know
[01:51:44] what's going on here. They have to have a healthy balance, a healthy diet of real reporting
[01:51:52] every now and then. That's why they have investigative reporters. They have to maintain a level of
[01:51:56] credibility because if they lose all credibility, then they no longer can do propaganda. Okay?
[01:52:06] If you lose all credibility, if you lose all credibility, then no one believes you
[01:52:11] in moments of impact, in moments where you have to get people to believe you.
[01:52:16] There needs to be a veneer of credibility associated with these places so they can do propaganda
[01:52:22] better.
[01:52:23] Barry Wise is just tanking the reputation of CBS slowly but surely by very openly just
[01:52:28] doing push and no pull.
[01:52:34] Now of course in this current media environment maybe just simply being biased in the direction
[01:52:39] the administration will benefit you in the long run. Who knows? I mean, after all, Fox
[01:52:43] News is the most successful, most popular news broadcast in this country. So who knows maybe,
[01:52:49] maybe it does work in the long run.
[01:52:55] But the impact of this will be even more damaging.
[01:53:00] Ali Abunimah says, Barry Wessenser in a 60 minutes piece critical of Trump and its
[01:53:04] leak online is big news but when Al Jazeera pulled the lobby USA after Israel lobby pressure
[01:53:09] on Qatar and Intifada leaked it not a single maestro Matlab reported it.
[01:53:16] This is also correct.
[01:53:18] There is always a bigger dog in the room.
[01:53:29] You feel me?
[01:53:31] is the big dog in the room. Fox News people aren't moving the CBS is on. No, I agree. I
[01:53:43] agree, but you never know if they fully, if they fully turn CBS News into just Fox Slop,
[01:53:54] regime Slop, MAGA Slop, maybe, maybe they'll actually start winning people over. CNN certainly
[01:54:00] is trying to do that. Right? Many other news outlets are trying to do that right now. They
[01:54:05] realize that the only people that watch television still in this day and age are fucking boomers
[01:54:09] and the lead poison generation, Gen Xers, but mostly just boomers and boomers want that.
[01:54:15] Boomers want that slop. Hogs want the shit. They want to consume the slop. They want
[01:54:20] to consume the shit. Maybe that's the reason why these guys are also doing it. I don't
[01:54:27] think so. I think in the interim the damage will be so devastating for the liberal-minded
[01:54:33] boomers that the right-wing grift will impact CBS very negatively. Not in a way that is
[01:54:41] dissimilar to how the right-wing impact damaged MSNBC, now known as MSNOW, when they tried
[01:54:49] to pivot to the right MSNBC, when they were supposed to be the liberal equivalent
[01:54:54] the Fox news, a lot of people stopped tuning in. CBS is still supposed to have a level
[01:55:01] of like, if that's your brand, right, you're supposed to have a level of credibility. Okay.
[01:55:11] Now let me explain it to you. What I mean by this is, is if you look at news broadcasters
[01:55:18] as like, I don't know, fast food.
[01:55:20] If in and out tomorrow decided to fucking serve shawarma,
[01:55:26] people would be like, I don't know about this.
[01:55:27] You know, it would take time for people to,
[01:55:33] to go to in and out for shawarma.
[01:55:36] And if it was a costly endeavor,
[01:55:38] they would probably lose, you know?
[01:55:48] If you're if you're known for serving
[01:55:54] Hamburgers, you got to keep serving hamburgers. You can't just like all of a sudden go. Oh, we're doing animal style shawarma now at in and out
[01:56:01] And you certainly can't stop serving hamburgers in the process
[01:56:06] Barry Ways is coming in and saying in and out I'm now in control of it. We're doing shawarma only
[01:56:12] Okay, well, then no one's gonna come to in and out for shawarma. No one knows in and out for shawarma
[01:56:18] There are, there are a million other places where you can get a swarm of those better than in and out.
[01:56:23] Fucking stupid.
[01:56:33] Anyway.
[01:56:37] Ah.
[01:56:40] Epstein files, new ties to Trump and Andrew, but, um, aside from that, yeah, we got the Zelensky stuff too.
[01:56:46] and the year end recaps are coming out as well.
[01:56:52] Talking about where we're at this year,
[01:56:56] what has happened this year?
[01:56:58] I'm obviously gonna be talking about that stuff
[01:56:59] as well as the end of the year nears.
[01:57:03] But before I do that,
[01:57:05] the Sompiger wants to stream less in 2026.
[01:57:08] Did you ever do your Twitch recap?
[01:57:09] No, I did not.
[01:57:12] Every day from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. Pacific time,
[01:57:14] Sompiger is live on Twitch.
[01:57:15] another 20k down the line.
[01:57:19] What I do is basically AM radio book for Zoomers, he has said.
[01:57:22] The 34-year-old Trumor Hassanabi to his 3 million followers
[01:57:25] flips between a dizzying number of tabs
[01:57:26] offering political commentary on the day's news
[01:57:28] to an audience of mostly young men.
[01:57:30] When he's not sounding off on the culture
[01:57:32] or offering dating advice, he's tearing the right wing
[01:57:34] figures or the positive Trump administration.
[01:57:36] He's also six-foot-four in jacked in an era
[01:57:38] when the political right is fixated
[01:57:39] on hyper-masculine attributes.
[01:57:42] This year, these credentials
[01:57:43] Piker, a subject of political and media fascination. Democratic operatives reportedly courted him.
[01:57:48] Journalists covered him at length. Strategists and pundits looked to him to understand how liberals
[01:57:52] might win over young men, a demographic that broke sharply for the GOP in 2024, which some attributed
[01:57:58] to bro-podcasts as streamers like Joe Rogan palling around with Trump. As Democrats set out
[01:58:03] to find out Joe Rogan to the left, Piker, with his cutting jawline, serious protein,
[01:58:07] and taking empathy for immigrants and trans people, came up again and again.
[01:58:11] But Piker is no Joe Rogan, and he's no standard-issue Democrat either.
[01:58:14] He's an eval socialist, an anti-imperialist, and one of the loudest critics of the Israeli
[01:58:17] government's bombardment in Gaza.
[01:58:19] He isn't even a typical bro.
[01:58:20] He's been known to rock a string of pearls, or nail polish on occasion, and confidently
[01:58:24] donned a made-out fitting cat ears for a video earlier this year.
[01:58:27] And Piker is still a polarizing figure, his staunchly leftist views and the brash
[01:58:31] and off-the-cuff manner in which he expresses them have spurred more mainstream establishment
[01:58:35] liberals the distance himself from him.
[01:58:37] and he's made inflammatory comments that have gotten him suspended from Twitch several times.
[01:58:41] Still, since the 2024 election, his following has steadily climbed,
[01:58:45] and he's now one of the most influential voices on the left.
[01:58:48] One year into Trump's second term, young men, podcast bros included,
[01:58:52] seem to be turning on the president. As Democrats look to strengthen their
[01:58:55] standing with young voters in the next year's midterms,
[01:58:57] Pyger's Twitch stream might be a strategic campaign stop.
[01:58:59] Just know he hopes to stream less in 2026.
[01:59:03] And then they ask me a bunch of questions, short questions, short answers.
[01:59:06] What was the most memorable moment from this year? For me, the ice protest in America, when
[01:59:10] I started turning violent on me and fellow Americans across the country, I still think,
[01:59:15] I still think that that was a turning point for a lot of people, cuz that was the first
[01:59:19] time, especially after, especially after Chris Van Hollen demanded the extraction
[01:59:26] or proof of life for Kilmar Brayga Garcia.
[01:59:30] That was the first time Trump took a major dent in his anti immigrant agenda. That
[01:59:35] That policy became less favorable from that point on.
[01:59:43] So that was, I think.
[01:59:49] Why do you keep doing that?
[01:59:50] Most riot workers don't even care about working out that much and dating advice.
[01:59:52] Am I missing any sugar streams?
[01:59:53] No, it's a chat advice.
[01:59:57] Which of your dreams came true?
[01:59:58] There's a 34-year-old socialist mayor who ran unaffordability and defeated all odds.
[02:00:02] What do you already regret?
[02:00:04] taking more time off this year and not doing less politics next year.
[02:00:09] What vices are you giving up on or carrying with you into the next year? My crippling nicotine
[02:00:13] and caffeine addiction will be carried into the next year. Look, brutal honesty. Who do
[02:00:17] you think made the biggest splash this year? If not yourself, Zoram Mhamdani. How did you
[02:00:21] survive the hard parts? I have an incredible community and I'm very stubborn and very
[02:00:25] mission focused and I have a positive vision for the future I'm working towards so no
[02:00:28] matter what happens I can pull my head down and keep pushing forward. What's the
[02:00:31] The biggest existential threat to human life, AI, disinformation, and hatred, these three
[02:00:35] things combined make an incredibly dangerous combination.
[02:00:40] What if anything is giving you hope about the year ahead?
[02:00:43] I think people are very fed up with the lack of change from either major party, and I
[02:00:45] think it's causing them to look for alternatives, and it's leading them in the direction
[02:00:48] of a socialist alternative.
[02:00:50] Who's someone we should be paying attention to next year, Dr. Abdul El Sayed?
[02:00:56] What's the goal?
[02:00:57] You said climate change.
[02:00:59] Another AI also is further accelerating ecological collapse.
[02:01:11] The sun has changed up so much, it isn't even saying climate change shaking my head.
[02:01:15] Jesus Christ.
[02:01:30] What's the goal you're setting up next for yourself, setting for yourself next year?
[02:01:33] Stream less, enjoy life more, and spend more time with friends and family.
[02:01:36] Favorite movie of the year?
[02:01:37] One battle after another.
[02:01:38] Favorite music of the year?
[02:01:39] Nobody is shocked to see this Pope Pisaun's DNA except Kai.
[02:01:46] She's permanently shocked by Hassan.
[02:01:47] Per the famous words of Hassan, all of them to count, all of them to mount, Google the
[02:01:50] video.
[02:01:51] Shame on you, CNN, for promoting someone like Piger said that America deserved 9-11.
[02:01:54] This is why American major media cannot be trusted.
[02:01:57] You should look up the term blowback.
[02:01:58] It might help you understand why 9-11 happened.
[02:02:01] Hassan is a genius with language and English idioms, and he has the hive mind thing
[02:02:04] down almost perfectly.
[02:02:05] Even AGI could learn from him.
[02:02:08] A lot of very, very upset, real CNN watchers and readers in the chat plus on as a contributing
[02:02:18] factor to Trump winning the election.
[02:02:21] These aren't normal CNN commentary, folk.
[02:02:25] Let's be real, okay?
[02:02:33] These are the last gasp of redditors who still under every article or under every mention
[02:02:41] go.
[02:02:42] But remember when Hassan was talking about Israel and was very negative about Israel?
[02:02:48] Let me try to paint him in a bad light because he was very mean to Israel.
[02:02:54] Not realizing that.
[02:02:56] That doesn't present me in a bad light at all.
[02:02:59] No matter what you can say, no matter what you say, over and over again, no matter how
[02:03:04] much you rant, you are falling down the Andrew Cuomo.
[02:03:10] You are falling down the Andrew Cuomo trap, okay?
[02:03:16] Do you not understand this?
[02:03:21] Well, I guess they don't.
[02:03:23] They don't.
[02:03:25] And most likely, they never will.
[02:03:29] And they do it for free.
[02:03:30] I know that's the saddest part, honestly.
[02:03:33] Science as a candle in the dark.
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[02:04:05] All the way people will say,
[02:04:06] oh wow, you pay so much money for PR, like okay,
[02:04:08] you think that even when, even if I'm not,
[02:04:11] you just tell me I'm doing a good job, yeah.
[02:04:17] Are you really quitting? Wait, what? When did I say I was?
[02:04:23] Adrian is online. Thank you for the 25 of the subs and SPL 6, thank you for the 10 of the subs.
[02:04:33] Yeah, what a lot of these guys don't realize is every time they're like, well,
[02:04:37] you see Hassan actually hates Israel and then they slap on a whole bunch of bullshit about
[02:04:44] about me hating Israel, and they greatly exaggerate my perspective or whatever, they don't understand
[02:04:54] that this doesn't have the impact that they think it has.
[02:04:58] Okay?
[02:04:59] Thoran Bagels on a wall.
[02:05:03] Thank you for the 20 of the subs.
[02:05:07] Do you see what I mean?
[02:05:10] at this point anyone who has ever criticized Israel has received a mountain of fucking backlash
[02:05:16] and lies in slander tying them to anti-Semitism so much so
[02:05:23] so much so that like people who not because now the fuck Israel position is the
[02:05:30] is the the uh normal position is the popular position
[02:05:34] You're lying, consensus opinion is that Israel sucks?
[02:05:41] No, that's what I mean, because it's the consensus opinion.
[02:05:44] A lot of these guys don't realize that every single time they keep saying,
[02:05:48] oh, you're an anti-Semite, people don't actually go, oh, shit, they're calling me an anti-Semite.
[02:05:53] I better think twice about criticizing Israel.
[02:05:56] No, they go, okay, I am an anti-Semite then.
[02:05:59] And people just don't understand it like these guys who keep doing this don't understand it
[02:06:09] And I think that's part of the reason why they
[02:06:11] Now move on to different targets like oh he's the fucking killing his dog
[02:06:16] He's a dog terrorist or whatever, but like that kind of stuff is never gonna reach to the same level of salience
[02:06:22] as this like broad, you know, political subject matter that you're, that I'm covering. I'm a political commentator, right?
[02:06:32] So all they have at their disposal is Islamophobia.
[02:06:43] them.
[02:06:44] Uh, well, now even Israeli scholars at the Academy of Jewish Studies in DC were shit
[02:07:00] talked by audience members when they presented research that was disfavorable to Israel.
[02:07:03] Yeah, exactly.
[02:07:05] When you are, when you're running around calling, uh, you know, miss Rachel an anti
[02:07:09] semi like you've completely lost the plot people are not going to like even people don't give a
[02:07:17] shit even when you call me an anti-semite and I am much more radical and much more open about my
[02:07:23] perspective especially in analyzing and also in certain instances defending the existence of
[02:07:35] resistance groups, militant resistance groups, right?
[02:07:38] Speaking of defending the existence of militant
[02:07:42] resistance groups, I do have to bring up James Cameron,
[02:07:49] okay, who is my goat.
[02:07:52] Obviously there's a new avatar that just came out
[02:07:57] and I have to promote a little,
[02:07:59] I have to promote my favorite white boy with motion
[02:08:01] to the best of my ability here. Okay. My favorite white boy about motion. James Cameron says
[02:08:08] Palestinian struggle is righteous. In a recent interview, renowned filmmaker James Cameron,
[02:08:14] director of the Avatar franchise described the Palestinian plight as existential. Speaking
[02:08:18] on the portrayal of war in his latest film Avatar Fire and Ash, Cameron drew parallels
[02:08:21] between fictional narratives and real world crises. The comments were made during
[02:08:24] a director debrief interview with journalist Brandon Davis released shortly after the
[02:08:29] films premiere on December 19 in an interview, Cameron stated, it's a fine line, killing
[02:08:33] only leads to more killing and endless expanding spiral.
[02:08:36] That's what we've seen.
[02:08:37] We've seen it in Gaza.
[02:08:38] We've seen it in Sudan.
[02:08:39] We've seen it in Ukraine.
[02:08:40] He continued, there are some fights that are righteous and total annihilation is
[02:08:43] a reason to fight.
[02:08:44] It's existential.
[02:08:46] This is different than the way people actually perceive Palestinians as perfect victims.
[02:08:51] I need you to understand the significance of a statement such as this one, okay?
[02:08:55] that the Palestinian struggle is righteous is basically the most like palatable way of
[02:09:02] openly stating that, you know, you're, you kind of understand why Hamas is doing the things
[02:09:09] he's doing. Okay? For a guy with such a high profile, especially in an industry like Hollywood
[02:09:15] to be able to come out and say stuff like this is a major tide shift. Okay? Camera
[02:09:22] remarks align with the narrative of Avatar, Fire and Ash where indigenous Navi characters
[02:09:26] confront human colonizers to film the third installment of the saga delves into grief,
[02:09:29] loss and redemption, mirroring what Cameron describes humanity's greed and willful destruction.
[02:09:48] Let's be real.
[02:09:50] That statement, especially coming from a guy like James Cameron, that statement coming
[02:09:54] from someone like me, obviously, puts me in a mountain of fucking trouble.
[02:09:59] And for, for the past two years, people have been consistently saying, I'm a, you know,
[02:10:04] dangerous anti-Semite, anti-Semitic terrorist, terrorist, terrorist over and over again.
[02:10:09] But when it's coming from James Cameron, that means that the tide has shifted so
[02:10:12] much, the tide has shifted so much that it's no longer just about Palestinians
[02:10:18] being seen as perfect victims, and that's the only time you can defend Palestinians.
[02:10:22] But instead, now you can also say you understand why some people are engaging in a righteous
[02:10:30] struggle against existential threats that seek to wipe them out.
[02:10:35] That is precisely what Israel is doing, okay?
[02:10:38] And it is perfectly understandable that there would be resistance against it.
[02:10:45] Here's the video of the quote.
[02:10:46] Let's watch it.
[02:10:47] I mean
[02:10:49] Sure all out war in this movie. Oh, yeah
[02:10:52] Good guys are killing bad guys. They're each killing each other
[02:10:55] They're each killing each other's animals and creatures and yet I feel like when we see the sort of suffering
[02:11:00] We only see the pain mostly see the pain inflicted on the good guys as
[02:11:04] One of the things that I also saw
[02:11:07] that that people were criticizing which reminded me of
[02:11:11] Of of you know, there was a all those like fucking right-wing edgy boys that also lose their shit about Israel
[02:11:18] But are like otherwise neo-nazis. What is it like the anime account DACA DACA or whatever was complaining that?
[02:11:25] Ukrainians were using drones on horseback cavalry that the Russians were utilizing in Ukraine and they were like these guys killed
[02:11:33] Horses how dare they kill horses Ukraine deserves to lose and it's like motherfucker
[02:11:38] what do you mean like they're the ones using the horses they're the ones
[02:11:46] invading Ukraine like I'm not pronated by any means but what the fuck do you
[02:11:52] expect the guys to do what do you expect the people defending their fucking
[02:11:57] territory to do just not oh no you're using a horse I guess I can't blow it
[02:12:02] up then like oh don't touch the horses what the fuck it's ridiculous yeah I saw
[02:12:13] someone being like yeah if Russians actually had child conscripts these
[02:12:17] guys will fucking yell at them for for you know fighting against minors or
[02:12:22] something instead of getting mad at the Russian for potentially using
[02:12:28] our constitution is hypothetical, you know?
[02:12:34] Yes, I am a horse girl. But as a horse girl, get mad at the appropriate place here.
[02:12:42] Get mad at the fucking people using the horse on the battlefield rather than
[02:12:49] get mad at the people using the horse on the battle rather than the people who are,
[02:12:53] you know, defending their fucking homeland.
[02:12:58] Anyway, if you're trying to make sure we don't empathize with the bad guys, can you
[02:13:12] talk about how fighting for what's right and walking that line requires that sort of
[02:13:17] crime?
[02:13:18] It's a fine line, right?
[02:13:19] Because we go down, we go into Tocun culture and they say, you know, killing only leads
[02:13:23] to more killing and endless expanding spiral, right?
[02:13:26] And that's the world we live in right now.
[02:13:27] That's what we've seen.
[02:13:28] We've seen it in Gaza, we've seen it in Sudan, we've seen it in Ukraine.
[02:13:35] And you know, you're doing an action movie, people are going to fight, but are you fighting
[02:13:40] for a just cause?
[02:13:41] Are you fighting for what you believe in?
[02:13:42] Are you fighting for a place of hatred or revenge?
[02:13:46] There are some fights that are righteous, and total annihilation is a reason to fight.
[02:13:51] James Cameron's so close, James Cameron's so close to like, I mean he's still
[02:13:55] lived up in this analysis because like no one is really fighting for revenge in this situation right
[02:14:00] like most people are fighting the the conquerors are fighting for a territorial expansion for
[02:14:07] extraction of natural resources or the enslavement of a people right which is then commodified
[02:14:13] then turned into another commodity right um and then the people who are fighting back
[02:14:17] against that are usually fighting for survival all these sectarian stuff for all the ethnic
[02:14:24] tensions, all the religious tensions, all of that is basically just a galvanizing factor.
[02:14:30] But the main motivator is always about theft. It's always about stealing resources, it's
[02:14:40] always about acquiring more territory so that you can improve your economy.
[02:14:48] It's existential. You capture all out war. Look at this movie.
[02:14:54] But I guess he's talking about the bad guys in his movie, but even then, even then the
[02:14:58] bad guys in the movie are there to, once again, they're not there to just simply enact revenge.
[02:15:08] They're there to extract resources.
[02:15:11] That's their goal.
[02:15:13] But in any case, like I said, big respect.
[02:15:18] The last time I heard someone so openly state, like a major player, so openly state the intentionality
[02:15:28] of their famous work was George Lucas, where George Lucas openly stated that the good guys
[02:15:34] were the Viet Cong and the bad guys, the empire was the United States of America.
[02:15:40] So, you know, very cool that James Cameron is still firmly in the halls of the greats.
[02:15:49] I'm not just saying that because I just watched Terminator 2 recently, after many, many years
[02:15:54] of not seeing it, where once again, he very deliberately made the villains the police,
[02:16:02] if you recall.
[02:16:05] And there is a specific reason for it.
[02:16:07] He says it himself.
[02:16:09] asked why T-1000 was a cop, he says, the Terminator films are not really about the human race
[02:16:21] getting killed off by future machines, they're about us losing touch with our own humanity
[02:16:24] and becoming machines which allows us to kill and brutalize each other. Cops think
[02:16:28] of all non-cops as less than they are, stupid, weak and evil. They dehumanize the people
[02:16:33] They are sworn to protect and desensitize themselves in order to do that job
[02:16:49] Good Hollywood used to be good and now it's all pro Empire garbage now Hollywood
[02:16:54] It just always had a fucking pro Empire garbanzo attitude. There's just some who cut through that noise a little bit
[02:17:01] Okay, and those people are oftentimes creating works that have salience works that are remembered forever and
[02:17:09] I just wish that other people would recognize that you know
[02:17:14] My right wing brother picked up on Kyge. He's in the online world that I told me was the
[02:17:31] big deal. This is dog. This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen. None of these chirpers
[02:17:34] and bad actors online get it. Yeah, it's fine.
[02:17:38] The George Lucas clip James Cameron is talking about is trying to talk over to George and
[02:17:42] say the Star Wars is actually about the American Revolution. James Cameron has come a long way
[02:17:45] and it's nice to see. No, I mean, he has his moments. He has his moments. He has his moments.
[02:17:49] He has those moments where he doesn't get it and then he has moments where he does get
[02:17:53] it, right? Yeah, 1 million new files were uncovered in the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. I
[02:18:00] know. Random, but what brand of DHT blocker do you use? I need to up my hair game.
[02:18:07] Costco brand, I think, Finasteride and Minoxidil.
[02:18:13] One is oral, one's topical.
[02:18:16] The Finasteride is oral, the Minoxidil is topical.
[02:18:27] If the majority of Jews in Israel and America support Israel
[02:18:29] at the height of genocide and conflated Judaism
[02:18:31] and Zionism themselves, then why go so far
[02:18:34] as to combat the conflation?
[02:18:35] It kind of does the work of ethno supremacists
[02:18:37] Israel no serious question no I actually disagree it quite literally it not
[02:18:43] combating that conflation actually serves the purpose of ethno supremacist
[02:18:47] that's why I don't do it
[02:18:51] doors open
[02:19:02] okay
[02:19:05] Do you understand?
[02:19:09] Because no matter how many people actually lean into it, that conflation is still false.
[02:19:14] Okay?
[02:19:15] Like, this is what I mean.
[02:19:19] The notion of generalization, the notion of like monolithizing an entire group of people
[02:19:26] is just incorrect across the board.
[02:19:29] It's not something that I believe, just as I don't believe that like every white
[02:19:33] person is automatically a white supremacist. I don't believe that every Jewish person is
[02:19:38] automatically a Jewish supremacist and the reason why I'm using white and Jewish in this
[02:19:45] situation to describe this to you is because in Israel, an ethno-nationalist country, Jews
[02:19:55] are the white people in Israel and obviously the Ashkenazi Jews in America are also considered
[02:19:59] white as well. I mean in general, but shouldn't the focus be on the supremacy considering
[02:20:02] Most Jews and Israel just don't care about the genocide? Yes, but it's not like I don't factor in the supremacist attitudes.
[02:20:09] I talk about Zionism being a fascist ideology all the time.
[02:20:18] You understand?
[02:20:20] If I wasn't doing that, then you would, I think, have a point.
[02:20:27] If I wasn't doing that, you'd have a point, but I don't shy away from saying that all the time.
[02:20:32] And I see it in the same exact vein as white supremacy in the United States of America just
[02:20:40] as there are liberals or progressive people who fall into the trap of thinking that they're
[02:20:49] progressive but then exhibit white supremacist tendencies from time to time, racist tendencies
[02:20:56] from time to time. I see liberal Zionists in a similar vein as well. And if my goal
[02:21:02] is to try and change the perspective of liberals or even right-wingers and reactionaries away
[02:21:08] from white supremacist attitudes, why would I not do the same thing for liberal Zionists?
[02:21:13] This is a major difference in opinion that I have with a lot of others who consistently say
[02:21:20] I am a servant of Israel. Now there's not that many people who say stuff like that because
[02:21:25] it's utterly delusional to say something like that about a person who has been smeared as an
[02:21:31] anti-Semite over and over and over and over again by mainstream resources as a matter of fact with
[02:21:36] regular frequency being called a fucking terrorist and whatnot you know especially as a fairly visible
[02:21:48] Muslim socialist political commentator in the United States of America
[02:21:55] But, you know, that's, I am applying the exact same principle.
[02:22:10] I'm applying the exact same principle that I apply in all of these issues, in all of
[02:22:14] these situations.
[02:22:15] You understand?
[02:22:16] You understand?
[02:22:28] Reminder that Larry David is a ball knower on Barry wise I know but
[02:22:32] As much as I love Larry David, he has at times disappointed me and he's literally coming out with like a Barack Obama
[02:22:40] Executive produced comedy show that's coming out with like Seinfeld on it and stuff
[02:22:44] So, I'm just telling you right now, there's, everyone will inevitably disappoint you, okay?
[02:22:52] And I think Larry David is going to disappoint me this year.
[02:22:55] That's a lock for 2026.
[02:22:57] But I hope not.
[02:22:58] Come for Shabbos Dinner one of these weekends.
[02:23:01] We had Barry Weiss last Friday night.
[02:23:03] She's fantastic.
[02:23:04] Hi, Larry.
[02:23:05] Yeah.
[02:23:06] He is a bit libbed up.
[02:23:12] Let's be real.
[02:23:14] Larry David is very funny, but he's a huge live with not the best politics.
[02:23:17] I mean, yeah, he's like, like, I think if, if James Cameron and Larry David had a conversation
[02:23:25] about like, you know, righteous, uh, militant resistance, I don't think Larry David would
[02:23:31] leave that conversation, uh, thinking about the humanity of Palestinians.
[02:23:36] I think he would leave that conversation potentially.
[02:23:38] Maybe I'm wrong.
[02:23:39] Maybe I'm wrong.
[02:23:40] He hasn't really talked too much about this stuff at all and I know his heart has been
[02:23:50] in the right place, at least historically.
[02:24:07] The Palestinian chicken episode is still goaded,
[02:24:09] if not a little cringe.
[02:24:10] I don't think you guys have watched that in today's eyes.
[02:24:14] For the time being, it was a pretty bold episode,
[02:24:20] but if you look at it now, you'll see a boat sides.
[02:24:26] It's definitely both sidesy.
[02:24:29] And it also places the emancipation
[02:24:32] and humanity of Palestinians on the verges
[02:24:34] of how fuckable they are,
[02:24:35] which in and of itself is not great, but once again,
[02:24:40] it actually is pretty bold for the time being.
[02:24:42] So I think I'm pretty fair with my analysis
[02:24:45] on stuff like this.
[02:24:49] Also Larry David did donate to,
[02:24:52] I think it was Kirsten Gillibrand,
[02:24:53] if I'm not mistaken, or Pete Buttigieg.
[02:24:55] Ever since I saw that, I was like, come on, man.
[02:25:00] Even Seinfeld has both sides.
[02:25:02] I should be watching it from now.
[02:25:03] Oh, Seinfeld is, I mean, Jerry is awful.
[02:25:07] Jerry Seinfeld is the worst part of Seinfeld.
[02:25:09] Seinfeld was carried by Castanza,
[02:25:11] who is supposed to be the character portraying Larry David.
[02:25:19] Feel something, think of the tank of the subs.
[02:25:30] At least one thing I can say about Larry David
[02:25:33] that I assume his silence over the last two years has probably been very fucking frustrating
[02:25:38] for a lot of pro-Israel people, you know?
[02:25:42] Like, I suspect they don't like that.
[02:25:48] I suspect that they fucking hate that our boy hasn't said shit.
[02:25:57] And that in and of itself, that in and of itself is probably speaking volumes in this regard.
[02:26:06] Larry David almost never publicly mentions Israel, but I have this suspicion he quietly
[02:26:10] finds the whole country a little ridiculous and holds us down.
[02:26:12] That's also, this is suspicion, but I do agree with this.
[02:26:15] I do agree with this suspicion.
[02:26:17] Like there are, especially in the age group that he's in, it's usually fairly unique
[02:26:24] to have a Jewish person who's at that age range that has like any serious enmity towards
[02:26:32] the state of Israel. I think the very fact that he wasn't like coming out of the gates
[02:26:38] swinging with like a pro-Israel stance post October 7 kind of implies that he was already
[02:26:44] off the he was already off the train a little bit. But again, we just have no idea.
[02:27:05] I'll take Larry David and Jerry Savo are not funny in any way shape or form. And the people
[02:27:09] who find them funny are not fun parties. Larry David is an incredible, incredible comedy writer.
[02:27:14] You are out of your fucking mind.
[02:27:17] You are out of your dude.
[02:27:20] Come on, dude.
[02:27:21] Are you kidding me?
[02:27:22] Even Seinfeld is like, Seinfeld doesn't work as a standalone work was
[02:27:27] carried by Larry David, but still is especially for the time, especially for
[02:27:33] his time is incredible.
[02:27:35] Kirby your enthusiasm is incredible.
[02:27:36] Larry David is incredible.
[02:27:38] That's not.
[02:27:39] Larry David as a comedian.
[02:27:41] as a comedy writer is fantastic.
[02:27:48] You're like, what the fuck?
[02:27:51] I don't even understand who you would hail as a champion of comedy writing
[02:27:57] if Larry David is not even in the top 10 on that list.
[02:28:01] What the fuck?
[02:28:05] Who?
[02:28:06] I know speaking about comedy in a leftist community is always the dumbest thing to do, but
[02:28:16] Jokes aren't fun anyone who enjoys jokes aren't fun at parties my party's the second international. Yeah
[02:28:36] I hate that I'm old enough to agree. I mean Nathan fielder is great too, but
[02:28:46] Seinfeld the show is so well written it had to get Steve Bannon rich and returned deal with the devil. That's true
[02:28:51] people don't remember this but
[02:28:54] People probably don't remember people probably don't know this but Steve Bannon when he was at Goldman Sachs basically purchased all the Seinfeld library
[02:29:01] like all the Seinfeld IP and
[02:29:03] And it amassed the fortune for him Steve Bannon also at Goldman Sachs
[02:29:11] Funded gold farmers in China
[02:29:20] Like power farmers and power level power levelers in China
[02:29:26] Yeah fun facts the more you know what was the name of the fucking book
[02:29:33] It's from, uh, the devil's bargain. I think is, is it the devil's bargain?
[02:29:41] Uh, yeah, booked by Joshua Green, devil's bargain, uh, that details, uh, Steve Bannon,
[02:29:47] Donald Trump's a 27 book by Bloomberg Business Week journalist, Joshua Green,
[02:29:51] about the partnership between Donald Trump and Steve Bannon that led to their
[02:29:53] 2016 political victory in the rise of the alt-right.
[02:29:59] You have to say, in, wow, yeah, gold farmers in, wow, in world of warcraft.
[02:30:03] Wow gold, not real gold
[02:30:10] Yeah, Steve Bannon the fucking parasite that never goes away
[02:30:16] Additional nugget about Larry David hating Barry wise
[02:30:20] Wait what no we already I already showed that on the show come for Shaba's dinner one of these
[02:30:24] Weak is a hulu executive tells Larry Davis character after meeting we have Barry wise last Friday night
[02:30:27] She's fantastic Larry Sam's door without answering the art
[02:30:30] This was already maintaining life. The actor playing the executive Elon gold has said he mentioned Ms.
[02:30:35] Weiss in a fit of ad-libbing because they had indeed shared a Shabbat dinner after asking how they met according to Mr.
[02:30:41] Gold, Mr. David answered his own question accurately enough. Let me guess it was at an event where they said we must save Israel.
[02:30:47] Oh my God. Okay. This is additional information that I did not know about and I'm a fucking Larry Davis stand.
[02:30:54] man. Okay, that does make me very happy. That gives me a little bit more confidence about
[02:31:01] his actual perspective on this issue. Oh my God, that's fucking fire. That the piece
[02:31:09] is where he gets direct, she gets directly mentioned is the one I just showed you. Let
[02:31:16] Let me guess, it was an event where they said, we must save Israel.
[02:31:23] I mean, I can see him.
[02:31:26] I can see him.
[02:31:27] He's pretty secular.
[02:31:28] Brother, what are you talking about?
[02:31:30] Secular Judaism has basically taken on Zionism as a civic national religion.
[02:31:36] What the fuck?
[02:31:38] Being secular does not actually mean you're not pro-Israel at all in the United States
[02:31:44] of America.
[02:31:46] Most Jews in America are secular.
[02:31:48] That doesn't mean shit.
[02:31:51] Larry David on the other hand.
[02:31:54] I can see Larry David genuinely hating Israel because of the how annoying Zionists are.
[02:32:02] Like I can see him straight up being like, you know, at first I was on board with this stuff, but God damn, you guys are fucking so annoying all the fucking time.
[02:32:16] I
[02:32:22] Can I can totally see him just
[02:32:25] Just leaving this cause at some point being like nope. I've had enough I can't stand you motherfuckers
[02:32:35] All it took was one meeting Rabbi Shmuley one time, okay
[02:32:41] He met Rabbi Shmueli one time and he was like, I am pro Hamas now. Actually, I've decided, you know, glory to the martyrs.
[02:32:52] This is unacceptable.
[02:32:57] Yeah, Larry David just wants to be left alone.
[02:33:10] Yeah, Larry David meets Rabbi Shmueli one time, instantly puts up a poster of Yahya
[02:33:18] Sinwar in his house, in his studio.
[02:33:22] He's like, no, no, I'm out, I'm done.
[02:33:27] This is unacceptable completely.
[02:33:36] What the fuck?
[02:33:38] Do we really need it? As you can say, Alan Dershowitz versus Rabbi Shmueli hosted by Barry Wise only on CBS.
[02:33:47] Lowkey, I would probably watch that for the record.
[02:33:51] I would, I would watch that.
[02:33:53] because that's anytime my goat Alan Dershowitz is on camera he's such a
[02:33:57] telegenic presence I have to tune in
[02:34:04] let's be real let's peak
[02:34:08] also that's not real chatters that's a meme I just so you understand
[02:34:14] um Kyle
[02:34:18] The absolute goat Kalinsky also known as secular talk
[02:34:26] The most quirked-up white boy to ever do it
[02:34:31] Has done a video on as we go as we go turns on Trump the Kyle Kalinsky show guys, so um, this is shocker
[02:34:37] This is a shocker. I'm sure you guys remember. I had done a couple videos
[02:34:43] I don't I don't remember how many be two or three videos something like that on Asman gold
[02:34:46] Every now and then he'll say something that's just, it just blows my mind, and I'm forced to respond.
[02:34:52] Like when he said that casually genocidal shit about Palestinians, that's one example.
[02:34:56] I forget what the last one was, but I did a segment on it.
[02:34:59] Apparently he responded. Apparently he responded.
[02:35:01] Now, thankful for my mental health here, I never, I don't actually watch people when they fucking decide to come after me.
[02:35:11] You know, my theory is very simple, like, live and let live, y'all want it.
[02:35:15] Hey, I have every right to attack you guys. You have every right to attack me back by all means now that
[02:35:20] Great principles to stand on I do happen to know because friends of mine covered it that
[02:35:26] He's he's bigger than me. It's that simple. His show is maybe twice the size of mine. He's a giant streamer
[02:35:32] He's certainly more popular than I am so without a doubt
[02:35:35] I grabbed a stick and I hit a fucking hornet's nest and so I was told that
[02:35:39] That he responded to my video and then my original video got fucking brigaded going after him
[02:35:46] This is the first thing I've seen of him since then king of dark. Well Kyle. Yeah, he goes maybe a little too dark at times
[02:35:51] Let's be real
[02:35:55] Make no mistake
[02:35:58] He he is the the
[02:36:01] Absolute goat at posting the most boomer the most boomer means but
[02:36:08] But because, because he posed boomer memes all the fucking time, there are definitely
[02:36:14] some instances where, you know, he's maybe going a little above and beyond, okay?
[02:36:19] Let's be real.
[02:36:20] Like there was some of the stuff that I saw, they was posting about like the, the, the,
[02:36:26] the, what do you call it?
[02:36:28] The fucking all of the white supremacists on Twitter are actually Indian.
[02:36:34] All of those memes were, you know, maybe a little heavy handed.
[02:36:37] Now I know Kyle, I've known Kyle for years.
[02:36:40] I do not think he is, like people will say,
[02:36:44] oh dude, he was like mocking these in those memes.
[02:36:48] I don't think he's like thinking too much about it.
[02:36:50] So it's more so like a blind spot.
[02:36:53] I don't think he is a racist person.
[02:36:56] Oh, I would go so far as I, he's anti-racist in general.
[02:37:01] And, but you know, you can still have your moments,
[02:37:04] especially when you're a quirked up white boy.
[02:37:06] I mean, he's got the, the Eminem hair, you know, come on.
[02:37:12] I will always respect Kyle though,
[02:37:14] because out of all of the,
[02:37:17] out of all of the, the people that,
[02:37:22] what do you call it?
[02:37:23] Out of all the like the atheists,
[02:37:25] because he was one of them.
[02:37:26] I mean, his channel is literally called secular talk
[02:37:29] when every single atheist was pivoting
[02:37:33] to anti-Obama, Islamophobia, maximum Islamophobia.
[02:37:38] Kyle Kalinsky stayed true to his principles, okay?
[02:37:43] 100%.
[02:37:44] And many of you are too young to know this.
[02:37:46] You don't remember that media environment.
[02:37:49] You did not grow up in that media environment
[02:37:51] or maybe you were actually, you know,
[02:37:54] right wing in that media environment potentially,
[02:37:56] and you didn't pay too close attention to Kyle,
[02:38:01] But I grew up in that, I grew up in that media environment.
[02:38:05] Let me tell you, okay?
[02:38:11] If you have, if you had an anti-imperialist slant
[02:38:18] in any way, shape, or form in that media landscape,
[02:38:24] okay, when there was, when there were no alternatives,
[02:38:26] it was just the young Turks and then everyone else
[02:38:28] that was just like trying to fucking knife you in the neck.
[02:38:33] Okay.
[02:38:37] Especially as a person who came from the background of like,
[02:38:40] because Kyle came from that background of like,
[02:38:42] you know, secular, anti-theist, edgy atheist background.
[02:38:47] He was virtually the only person.
[02:38:51] He was virtually the only person that was out there
[02:38:54] being like, no, this stuff is crazy.
[02:38:56] I think we need to be anti-war.
[02:38:58] and
[02:39:03] It looks like it looks like he may already
[02:39:08] Be having a change of heart and a change of mind he may already Sam Cedar and Amy Goodman erasure
[02:39:14] Yeah, no one is fucking calling into
[02:39:16] question
[02:39:17] Sam Cedar or Amy Goodman's
[02:39:20] Track record chatters. That's the reason why I don't feel the need to even bring that up
[02:39:24] up. Kyle shared an anti-Indian meme with the fuck you promoting him for. The Chinese are
[02:39:30] Israel coded. They think anything against the CCP is against the Chinese people. Look what
[02:39:33] they're doing. The Japanese media, China ban Japanese anime cosplay from the cosplay
[02:39:37] confession. China is so insecure.
[02:39:40] Okay, let's continue be turning on Trump and look all I'll say is we'll take it. We love to see it
[02:39:59] well you love to see anybody here earlier on that train anybody I said it was doing that right wing
[02:40:04] He's probably unacceptable, for sure.
[02:40:07] I don't think it came from a place of hatred, but it is still reinforcing the same dynamics in general, but it's coming from more so a blind spot and not like a place of open disdain, even though the intention doesn't really matter in that circumstance, especially if you don't know him.
[02:40:25] Kyle took Russian money? No, what the fuck?
[02:40:29] What? What are you saying? What is happening?
[02:40:32] no wonder everybody fucking hates people like myself in general if you do any
[02:40:38] kind of political commentary no matter how many fucking years you've been at it
[02:40:42] there are a million different theories about and a million different fucking
[02:40:46] pieces of misinformation about every single fucking person oh my god no
[02:40:54] wonder people believe whatever dumb shit that people believe about me to holy
[02:40:57] fuck I mean this is a person I know personally I've known him for a decade
[02:41:01] plus okay ganda anybody who is feeding into that right-wing ecosystem online
[02:41:05] Which was so profitable for so long. I mean the grift you never see people grifting left
[02:41:10] It's always for the right because that's where the money is that's where the popularity is that's where the most passionate people online are
[02:41:16] Right no no no the races in do you mean wasn't misinformation? I understand why people are mad at him. No, no, I know I that's that's valid
[02:41:22] I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about fucking people who are saying he got money from Russia or some shit
[02:41:29] it. But it looks like the tides have shifted so fucking hard against Trump that even some
[02:41:37] of his strongest soldiers are now falling and are now going, I don't know about this
[02:41:41] f-teen stuff, bro. I do not know about this f-teen stuff. It does look good. It does not
[02:41:45] look good. So here we go. Here's Asmongold.
[02:41:49] Isn't it time for Asmongold to stop talking to Trump's dick? I've been very critical
[02:41:52] of Trump regularly. If you look at any of my commentary discussing things that
[02:41:56] he's done. You'll see that I'm extremely critical of him even more so recently since
[02:42:01] the Epstein stuff. So this is just it's it's again just the typical reddit one
[02:42:07] dimensional thinking because you couldn't vote for Kamala Harris if she was
[02:42:11] gonna do something she would have. She was the vice president and there were
[02:42:15] ongoing cases involving the Epstein vials so they couldn't release them
[02:42:18] even if they wanted to at that time and she objectively would have been way
[02:42:21] better but I digress. Vote? Of course I didn't vote. Why would I vote if I
[02:42:25] I don't feel like the camp like Kyle was also way more in the tank for mama than I was like way more
[02:42:36] A majority
[02:42:37] Sam Cedar Kyle they were
[02:42:40] Whoo, they were definitely maybe a little too lived up by my estimations. I
[02:42:46] Mean, I I did not I'm not gonna be like oh the damn shill or anything like that because once again
[02:42:53] then you should allow people to have different perspectives. Sometimes even those different
[02:42:59] perspectives could be even heinous. Okay. You have to literally understand human beings
[02:43:04] are complex. You have to look at most of their work. You have to look at their body of work.
[02:43:09] You have to look at their positions in general, what their first principles are. Okay. Flander,
[02:43:16] Emma was a hater of Mamala. No, everybody here criticized Mamala. Okay. Emma did,
[02:43:21] Sam did, I did, Kyle did.
[02:43:23] I'm just saying that they were definitely more,
[02:43:29] they were majority report was not in the tank
[02:43:33] for a mama like that.
[02:43:34] That's insane.
[02:43:35] Stop spreading misinformation.
[02:43:36] Oh my God, you're literally,
[02:43:40] I'm simply stating that they were definitely more sympathetic
[02:43:44] to mama than I was, okay?
[02:43:47] That represents my viewpoints and my values
[02:43:50] to a degree that I feel confident voting for them.
[02:43:53] And I think that I've been proven right.
[02:43:56] I have been.
[02:43:57] I think I've been proven right with that.
[02:43:58] So here he is now going,
[02:44:01] yeah, he's fucking up and that F-steam file shit
[02:44:03] is kind of bad and like I'm kind of happy.
[02:44:05] I didn't vote for him now,
[02:44:06] but here's his commentary from the past, right?
[02:44:07] For this, yeah.
[02:44:08] I mean, if I had known he was gonna do this,
[02:44:10] I would have voted for him.
[02:44:11] I would have like, 100%.
[02:44:13] I didn't vote for Donald Trump,
[02:44:15] but if I did, I would say that I voted for this.
[02:44:18] By the way, this was his reaction to the Ice Gestapo thugs rounding up innocent people
[02:44:24] and his reaction to Trump using the U.S. military to invade U.S. cities illegally, by the way.
[02:44:30] This was his reaction.
[02:44:32] Hypermilitarism going after liberals and lefties for disagreeing.
[02:44:36] This is his reaction.
[02:44:37] I've been waiting for this to happen ever since BLM.
[02:44:40] This is what I voted for.
[02:44:41] Well, I'll tell you guys, how many of you guys that voted for Trump, you're
[02:44:45] You're getting, you're getting even, it's even better than what you would hope for.
[02:44:49] You know, he wrote this.
[02:44:51] Yep, this is what I voted for.
[02:44:53] Yep.
[02:44:54] So I believe this one, I remember this one, it's when Trump was bombing people in Yemen
[02:45:00] and Asma Gull was like, yeah bro, this is what everybody voted for, this is amazing, bro.
[02:45:04] He wrote this.
[02:45:05] Yep, this is what I voted for.
[02:45:07] Yep.
[02:45:08] The two are on.
[02:45:09] Support for the Houthi terrorists must end immediately.
[02:45:10] be aware because America will hold you fully accountable and we won't be nice about it.
[02:45:17] Hell will re-
[02:45:21] Once again, because there's no consensus reality, it kinda doesn't matter if you're just wrong
[02:45:27] all the time.
[02:45:28] As long as you are wrong directionally in favor of Donald Trump, and then as long as
[02:45:34] you can pivot when everybody starts hating on Donald Trump and you start slowly butchering
[02:45:38] pivoting in the direction of, of, of, you know, hating on Donald Trump as well, like
[02:45:45] you'll be fine. There is no accountability at all. I love that people always use the
[02:45:48] term accountability though, whenever they're criticizing people that just don't like on
[02:45:52] the internet. Um, but there is no real accountability whatsoever. And, uh, there is no need or
[02:45:59] interest or investment in trying to establish consensus reality at all. And in the
[02:46:05] absence of of consensus reality or even a need for it you do kind of you do kind of win favors by
[02:46:15] leaning into whatever the popular thing is.
[02:46:20] Aint down upon you like nothing you have ever seen before. What I voted for Trump to do was like
[02:46:26] what he did with the DEI stuff on day one. What I voted for him to do is what he did with like
[02:46:31] for example, Iran, you didn't vote. Yeah, exactly. But I would like for me, let's say I'm watching
[02:46:38] somebody, right? Let's say I'm watching as many gold and he's my primary source of news because he
[02:46:43] agrees with me. And as it is a day off, so I watched this Habibi son talk shit. No, don't
[02:46:50] Don't bad that guy. Come on, come on. I'm bad. Um, like, when you got, when you got guys
[02:47:00] like, uh, you know, when, when someone was like watching him, right? And consistently
[02:47:03] and they're like, yeah, I agree. Trump is going to fucking win massive favors by blowing
[02:47:10] up Yemen. He's going to cause them to, he's going to cause Yemen to actually back
[02:47:14] down and stand down. And then Trump literally comes out the next day and is like actually
[02:47:20] we were wrong. These guys are brave warriors and we spent far too much money and we couldn't
[02:47:27] stop them at all from consistently intercepting ships. And we lost a bunch of planes in the
[02:47:32] process.
[02:47:35] So now they can still intercept ships going to Israel, but as long as they don't hit
[02:47:40] our ships, our Navy in the Red Sea, then that's fine. We won't, you know, we won't bombs
[02:47:48] on not any longer.
[02:47:50] Doesn't that cause someone who is a fan of not just as a global like anyone who promotes
[02:47:54] Trump like this to feel a little stupid? This is my question all the time. I guess
[02:48:00] like if you don't have any diversity in your media diet and you're like only getting
[02:48:04] information from one side. You just never, you never get to see what the truth is, right?
[02:48:13] Yeah, it's, they just ignore it like Baldur's Gate 3 and Wokeness, yeah. I guess that's kind
[02:48:17] of how it goes, right? Like, there's no need to course correct it all. Why can't you all just
[02:48:25] converse with each other instead of reacting to clips and videos and speaking into an echo chamber
[02:48:28] where everyone agrees with you? I'm not saying this about you, but XCC and Asmogol too.
[02:48:31] great question. First of all, XCC is not even a fucking political operative, so I don't know why
[02:48:36] you're bringing him up in this. I don't think he has a single interest in identifying political
[02:48:42] issues at all, even though he promoted Donald Trump. Asman Gold is the one who refuses to talk to me.
[02:48:48] Not the other way around. It's not, I have said over and over again that I'm
[02:48:53] perfectly comfortable talking to him. And every single time that we've had a conversation,
[02:48:57] I've been very charitable, very open-minded and fairly reasonable.
[02:49:04] He's the one who doesn't want to do it, so you're asking, you're climbing up the wrong tree,
[02:49:09] you're asking the wrong person.
[02:49:14] So much so that people actually say, I'm too charitable to ask them gold,
[02:49:19] I'm not aggressive enough or whatever.
[02:49:23] Yeah, Reddit is now clipping his normie reaction to the Epstein stuff saying,
[02:49:26] pan body should be arrested and it's going viral. They're trying to whitewash them. Yeah.
[02:49:32] I think when your audience is somewhat devoid of like real politics and just invested in like
[02:49:40] ruthlessly going after what you perceive as woke or what your ideological enemies are or what your
[02:49:46] enemies are in the sphere of drama, I think then the audience will basically lean into
[02:49:54] whichever direction, especially if he manages it, especially if he manages the pivot, especially
[02:50:03] if he manages the pivot in the in the centrist direction or center right direction by turning
[02:50:07] around and being like, yeah, actually, Trump should go to jail now because this Epstein stuff is crazy.
[02:50:13] Do you see what I mean?
[02:50:17] Ready is basically bipolar when it comes to Asmold. No, they're not. They actually like
[02:50:22] him quite a bit, I think, for the most part, because a lot of the anti-woke guys love him,
[02:50:28] and then the Liberals actually don't really mind him because he is probably the biggest
[02:50:34] op for their number one enemy, people on the left.
[02:50:41] Because he's a huge, huge, huge enemy of the Liberals, and I would say Reddit is a very
[02:50:49] liberal platform so I think they they will align with him regularly because he just shits
[02:50:58] on the left a lot and shits on those targets a lot all fuck socialists all the stuff they're
[02:51:04] all terrorists.
[02:51:06] If I would have voted that would have been what I voted for.
[02:51:11] So Trump earned your vote by now if I could go back in time and vote for him I absolutely
[02:51:16] would.
[02:51:17] I did not think that he was going to go this hard at all.
[02:51:21] So a little bit different, a little bit different.
[02:51:23] This stuff before was, oh my God.
[02:51:25] Breyer, tell me the Pajans hit you more than Asmant.
[02:51:28] What?
[02:51:30] Are you insane?
[02:51:33] That's an entirely different part of the internet.
[02:51:35] Those are adults.
[02:51:37] Those are political operatives that worked
[02:51:40] with Barack Obama.
[02:51:42] We're talking about like people who look at politics
[02:51:45] in the least sincere ways possible.
[02:51:48] And politics not about like, they're analysis,
[02:51:51] most people on the internet,
[02:51:52] their analysis of politics simply comes from
[02:51:56] whatever drama content they're consuming.
[02:51:58] It's team sports, it's all vibes based.
[02:52:02] It's not the same standard
[02:52:06] that someone like the Pajons would fucking apply at all.
[02:52:11] And yes, a lot of people will say,
[02:52:15] Oh, well, the Pajones are bad or whatever the fuck.
[02:52:17] It doesn't matter.
[02:52:18] They still have a worldview and established worldview.
[02:52:20] You might not agree with them.
[02:52:22] And there's certainly a lot of disagreement
[02:52:23] from my end as well, but they do actually have a,
[02:52:28] they're a little bit more adult, don't you think?
[02:52:30] In their assessment, in their analysis,
[02:52:32] in their commentary than someone who is,
[02:52:36] constantly covering whatever kind of slop
[02:52:40] that comes down their Reddit timeline.
[02:52:45] Like how many, how many, to be fair, you're both warriors of billionaire propaganda law?
[02:52:52] What do you mean? Like as in I'm fighting against billionaire propaganda and he's basically
[02:52:56] reinforcing billionaire propaganda. Is that what you mean? Like what are the Pajon's attitude
[02:53:02] about the KC Tron lawsuit is not a question that you can ask and get a serious answer on? Okay.
[02:53:09] But he's amazing. Oh my god, he's great. Oh, I should have voted for this. Oh,
[02:53:12] Oh, this is incredible. And by the way, virtually every single thing he was referring to as a reason to vote for Trump is a reason that should horrify any normal American, any normal American.
[02:53:22] He goes, ah, really? Should we crack skulls of innocent people and send them to, to seek out to a concentration camp where they get raped and tortured with no due process whatsoever?
[02:53:31] Should they, they really blow off judges decisions? Is that really a good idea? Should he invade U.S. cities with the U.S. military wildly illegally?
[02:53:40] Should he do every one of those things? Should he illegally bomb Yemen? Should he really do that?
[02:53:45] Every one of those things when he was going yeah, but the thing
[02:53:48] That actually made as we go go. I don't know about this guy anymore. It's the Epstein files. It is so one more time
[02:53:54] Listen again, isn't it time for as well to stop saying Trump stick
[02:53:56] I've been very critical of Trump regularly if you look at any of my commentary discussing things that he's done you'll yeah
[02:54:03] No, it's base base base base base. Yeah base. Yeah base. Yeah base
[02:54:07] don't wouldn't wouldn't necessarily say that that's critical maybe critical
[02:54:12] levels of dick riding see that I'm extremely critical of him even more so
[02:54:16] recently since the Epstein stuff so this is just it's it's again just the
[02:54:20] typical Reddit one-dimensional thinking because you couldn't vote for Kamala
[02:54:25] Harris if she was gonna do something she would have so yeah you didn't vote
[02:54:29] of course I didn't vote why would I vote if I don't feel like the
[02:54:33] Candidate represents my viewpoints and my values to a degree that I feel confident voting for them
[02:54:39] And I think that I've been proven right. I have been I think I've been proven right with that
[02:54:44] So let me just say this is what happens when you're at 35% approval rating
[02:54:50] This is what happens when you were all over those Epstein emails
[02:54:55] There were 23,000 emails Trump like if Donald Trump was also bringing about like great economic prosperity
[02:55:00] prosperity for his base right now, he would not be sitting at 35 approval.
[02:55:06] He would not be sitting at 35%, okay?
[02:55:09] If at the very least there was something tangible to lean into for his base, they would be.
[02:55:16] They would be doing it nonstop.
[02:55:17] That's why it's always funny whenever Trump says, why are you guys talking about Epstein
[02:55:21] and not talking about how incredible my administration has been so far with the
[02:55:26] economy and things like that.
[02:55:28] And it's like, like for example, they're right now posting dubs.
[02:55:33] They're currently posting fucking W's all over the timeline about how the GDP increase, the
[02:55:39] GDP increase, the GDP increase, the economy is actually on the up and up.
[02:55:43] It is the most brandonized shit I've ever seen.
[02:55:47] And the reason why I'm saying that is because everybody knows the only economic movement
[02:55:52] that's taking place right now is basically NVIDIA and, you know, open AI and all these
[02:55:58] other fucking AI companies spreading the same like $100 billion around, just exchanging hands
[02:56:07] over and over and over again.
[02:56:09] It's like seven companies circle jerking and no one is seeing the benefits of that,
[02:56:16] right?
[02:56:17] No one is seeing the benefits of that.
[02:56:18] is actually experiencing serious pain right now. So when these guys, when Trump dick writers
[02:56:25] come out and go, look, dude, it's fucking awesome. Actually, look, our economy is on the up and
[02:56:30] up. A lot of people who are not feeling that money getting spread around are going to are
[02:56:38] going to go, excuse me, what the fuck do you mean? And there's also nothing to hold
[02:56:47] onto like I said for those guys, because there's no like the impact of like shitting on trans people
[02:56:55] or the impact of like deporting undocumented migrants and undocumented migrants like that's not
[02:57:04] that hasn't led to any serious that hasn't been accompanied with like economic improvements
[02:57:10] in their day-to-day existence and therefore even they get soured on that shit where they go, okay
[02:57:19] Housing is still unaffordable. So the fuck do I care?
[02:57:32] Let's talk about DDR5 RAM increase for example for gamers understand the economic impact. Yeah
[02:57:37] All of these Republicans, if all of the mass deportations actually led to economic improvement
[02:57:49] for the average Republican, okay, they would be running around being like, Mr. President,
[02:57:53] you could fuck all the children you want.
[02:57:55] I promise you, maybe not all the Republicans, but many of the Republicans be like, I don't
[02:58:00] really care.
[02:58:01] I'm doing good.
[02:58:02] I'm doing good right now.
[02:58:03] My money is up.
[02:58:04] is very selfish, right? Many of them would turn around and say, oh, dude, Mr. President,
[02:58:12] I'll give you, I'll give you my firstborn, actually, because guess what? The economy's doing so great.
[02:58:17] I'm able to purchase a home. They would find ways to deal with the Epstein stuff. They'd be like,
[02:58:24] oh, it's probably AI, you know? But because the economy is not good and only getting worse
[02:58:33] for the average person, they don't lean into the Democrat hoax narratives.
[02:58:42] It's kind of like what I explained with Candace Owens, right? Everybody that was
[02:58:46] cherishing her commentary because she was really fucking pushing it with the TPUSA stuff
[02:58:53] and feeding into conspiratorial thinking over and over again. All those people who celebrated
[02:58:57] her running ad breaks in between her commentary about how sad she was about Charlie Kirk's
[02:59:02] demise, untimely demise, will almost overnight flip on her when she's not giving them what
[02:59:10] they demand.
[02:59:17] The very same reasons, the very same things that you actually overlooked or found to be
[02:59:23] fine, or even celebrated or cherished, right? We'll give you the ick. Think about it like
[02:59:33] being in a relationship, okay? Some relationships have a timeline. And by the time you get to
[02:59:40] the end of the relationship, things that you might have found quirky and cute about
[02:59:45] your partner might actually give you the ick, okay? Little things start bothering you.
[02:59:52] things start annoying you. Honeymoon period is over. It's kind of like that. And then you
[02:59:59] can't stand your partner. It's the same principle with people who develop parasocial attitudes
[03:00:06] and parasocial sentiment for their favorite cult leaders like Donald Trump or their favorite
[03:00:13] political commentators, whether it be Azmongol or Kandace, or even myself, can find themselves
[03:00:19] despising the very same things that they either overlooked or actually appreciated and celebrated.
[03:00:27] I know this from my own personal experience. There's plenty of people who,
[03:00:31] at one point, may be defended on principle, me purchasing a house for myself and my family,
[03:00:39] who might actually turn around and literally be like, actually, I thought that was bullshit.
[03:00:43] I was always suspicious. I always thought that that meant you're not a real socialist,
[03:00:47] You know? It happens.
[03:00:51] Someone was in about 1,600 of them. We learned that, for example, in 2011, he was at Epstein's
[03:00:55] house with a victim, quote, four hours. Okay? This is what happens when you illegally demolish
[03:01:02] the east wing of the White House and then go to build, went from 100 million to 200
[03:01:07] million to 300 million to $400 million billionaire ballroom. At the same time,
[03:01:12] unemployment's going up and inflation's going up and people can't afford groceries.
[03:01:15] using Klarna to get groceries. This is what happens in that scenario. This is what happens
[03:01:21] when you caught up 92 million pounds of food aid that was going to go to food banks for
[03:01:24] the holidays and now people are starving. This is what happens when you freeze 42 million,
[03:01:28] you kick 42 million off of the SNAP program, the food stamp program. This is what happens
[03:01:32] when 18 million lose their Medicaid and health insurance premiums double, triple, quadruple
[03:01:37] and in some cases more. Even the strongest soldiers no longer have a case to make
[03:01:41] for you. They don't have a case anymore. And by the way,
[03:01:45] do you buy the theory to the ballroom is a data center? We
[03:01:47] know, but that's pretty funny.
[03:01:51] Look, I am super proud of Rokana. I really am because Rokana
[03:01:55] has been leading on the Epstein files. I see him in a
[03:01:57] reaction to this fake release of the files where only 1% of the
[03:02:01] files were released and they were heavily fucking redacted
[03:02:03] and they're protecting Trump and they accidentally release
[03:02:05] some stuff that had Trump's pictures, then they pulled it
[03:02:07] back down to try to protect Trump in the midst of all
[03:02:09] this who's leading the way? Rokana. Rokana is out there. I've seen him on every single
[03:02:14] show talking about this, talking about we're going to go after Pan Badi, we're going to
[03:02:17] feature, we're going to, you know, hold her in contempt for not abiding by the law. And
[03:02:22] it's now at the point where Hassan Piker is, you know, backing Rokana on this. Asman
[03:02:28] Gold was watching Hassan Piker talk to Rokana and Asman Gold goes, I can see myself supporting
[03:02:34] this guy, Rokana. So I saw the streamer XQC was saying he wants to get Rokana on
[03:02:40] stream and he's the guy he could support. Asmongold's saying the same thing.
[03:02:43] When you manage to unite me, Hassan and Asmongold, man, that's some special shit.
[03:02:51] I don't know if there's anybody in the country that could do that, but
[03:02:54] because Rokana is leading with conviction and integrity and he's
[03:02:58] fighting for the truth for Americans to know the truth about what happened
[03:03:02] with Epstein. He is creating strange bedfellows. It's that old saying, politics create strange
[03:03:09] bedfellows. It sure as shit does. But by the way, Asmongold was, I don't know about Trump
[03:03:14] now. Here's what he was saying not that long ago, ready?
[03:03:16] We have featured more than 1000 anti-Semites on our platforms. 1000. Feature them publicly,
[03:03:23] clearly and with evidence. The results speak for themselves.
[03:03:26] The evidence, by the way, is like a maliciously edited clips and things like that. Everybody
[03:03:31] who's part of the America First agenda should view being listed on this website as a qualification
[03:03:36] to run for office. If you get listed on this website as being an enemy of the goals of Israel.
[03:03:41] Isn't that crazy?
[03:03:45] Isn't that crazy?
[03:03:52] Yeah, this is recent now. Yeah, he used to be a woke warrior.
[03:03:57] Bro, this is a bigger flip. This is the Osama bin Laden. This is the Osama bin Laden of flips.
[03:04:08] Okay. Anti-socialist warrior paving the pathway to peace to guy who did 9-11. Okay. How the
[03:04:17] What the fuck did that happen?
[03:04:21] Going from every single day talking big shit.
[03:04:24] What is this?
[03:04:26] You know, backing Ro Khanna on this.
[03:04:28] Asmongold was watching Hassan Piker talk to Ro Khanna and Asmongold goes, I can see
[03:04:34] myself supporting this guy.
[03:04:35] Ro Khanna.
[03:04:36] Yeah.
[03:04:37] No, you don't.
[03:04:38] You can't put a lot of emphasis into what he claims he's supporting and what he's
[03:04:41] not.
[03:04:42] Okay.
[03:04:43] That's just, you know, that's all.
[03:04:45] He doesn't have real convictions. I don't think, I don't think people care though to be fair.
[03:05:00] Like I don't think his audience cares that much either. I think they just want, they want a fair
[03:05:07] weather chud. So I saw the streamer XQC was saying he wants to get Rokana on stream and he
[03:05:13] because he's a guy he could support.
[03:05:14] Asimov Gold's saying the same thing.
[03:05:16] When you manage to unite, me, Hassan, and Asimov Gold,
[03:05:22] man, that's some special shit.
[03:05:24] I don't know if there's anybody in the country
[03:05:26] that could do that.
[03:05:26] But because Rokana is leading with conviction
[03:05:29] and integrity, and he's fighting for the truth,
[03:05:32] for Americans to know the truth
[03:05:34] about what happened with Epstein,
[03:05:37] he is creating strange bedfellows.
[03:05:40] It's that old saying,
[03:05:40] politics creates strange bedfellows.
[03:05:43] It sure as shit does but by the way as the gold was I don't know about Trump now
[03:05:47] Here's what he was saying not that long ago, right? We have featured more than 1,000
[03:05:51] Antisemites on our platforms
[03:05:54] 1,000 feature them publicly clearly and with evidence the results speak for themselves the evidence by the way is like
[03:06:01] maliciously added eclipse and things like
[03:06:03] He wants to have Rokana on his show to smear him. No, dude. It's cloud. How do you guys not understand?
[03:06:09] brother
[03:06:11] Please, you are mistaking, you are fucking mistaking people's, like, their output as people doing commentary, as like people with real convictions, what the fuck are you talking about?
[03:06:27] There are political operatives out there who have real points of view.
[03:06:32] not many of them, not many of them, but there are those who have convictions.
[03:06:43] For Asmongold, this is not about conviction, this is about like seeing whichever way the wind blows
[03:06:52] and leaning into it as aggressively as possible. That's why from the start, I fucking said,
[03:06:58] from the start, I said, when the time comes, and woke makes a full blown comeback, you will
[03:07:09] see him completely back away from a lot of these positions that he's been championing.
[03:07:16] And all of his fans will forget about it.
[03:07:19] He'll develop new fans.
[03:07:23] One of the worst things you can do as a political commentary person is have real convictions.
[03:07:33] Okay?
[03:07:35] People who have real convictions will always be major ops because the entire sphere is
[03:07:43] guided by people who have no convictions.
[03:07:46] Okay?
[03:07:48] As a matter of fact, I'll give you one example from someone who was an op of mine, Ben Shapiro,
[03:07:58] grifter on everything, right, except for one real conviction that he holds, dick-writing
[03:08:05] Israel into oblivion, okay. Ben Shapiro is pro-Israel. He will never hide that. That
[03:08:13] is one of the things that he cares about the most. Okay. He can go back and forth on Trump.
[03:08:20] He can do whatever he, you know, he, he can, he can say whatever bro loves moral high standing.
[03:08:26] Oh yeah. Ben Shapiro's Israel first. Okay. And because he is Israel first, because he
[03:08:34] is Israel first. I love the people saying Asmigold is pretty consistent in the chat.
[03:08:40] By the way, all the Roche man's fans are in here.
[03:08:42] I don't know if he's streaming today or not,
[03:08:44] but I suspect that we're getting a Roche infestation currently.
[03:08:51] Moral high standing?
[03:08:52] Yes, they don't just, you know, it's okay.
[03:08:59] Okay, it's fine.
[03:09:05] Ben Shapiro has convictions when it comes to Israel.
[03:09:08] And now he's currently getting punished for it. He's getting eaten alive for the longest
[03:09:12] time. It didn't matter because everyone else was also pro Israel, right? So he could get
[03:09:17] away with it. He could get away with it. He could actually say Nick Fuentes is an outsider.
[03:09:22] He's not a real one. I am, I have been Shapiro. I'm a part of the real, you know, conservative
[03:09:28] movement stuff like that. Reddit lives already fooled by asmas turnaround saying we like
[03:09:34] people who actually admit they are wrong. Unlike Hassan wrote supporters still think
[03:09:37] You are a terrorist is so weird brother. It is because these people do not have any fucking real understanding of politics
[03:09:43] That's the whole point
[03:09:47] Five years from now when they look back at this stuff they will completely adopt every single thing that I have said
[03:09:55] From way before October 7, okay, and they will still hate me, okay, it doesn't matter just let it go
[03:10:02] It doesn't matter
[03:10:04] For them, politics is not about identifying tangible goals and moving in that direction.
[03:10:12] It's just drama.
[03:10:14] And I don't even fault them for it, okay? I don't fault them for seeing it as drama.
[03:10:22] Do you want to know why I don't fault them for seeing it as drama?
[03:10:24] Because neither fucking major party in the United States of America is actually leading by policies that they care about.
[03:10:32] care about policies that they want to advance. If anything, it's usually the Republicans that
[03:10:37] have a discernible goal that they're trying to advance, even if that goal is fucking horrible
[03:10:42] for the average American.
[03:10:44] Okay? Democrats are constantly on a defensive posture against the Republicans moving the
[03:10:52] country in the worst direction. That's it. So of course, people who dive into the
[03:11:00] realm of politics will always drop policy and ideology and simply focus on whatever is fascinating
[03:11:11] about it and what's fascinating about it in the realm of online is going to be drama.
[03:11:19] Drama anchored around not policies or goals or agendas, but drama that revolves around
[03:11:26] individual content creators.
[03:11:28] I don't like Hassan because he's a terrorist, is a thought terminating cliche that people
[03:11:35] keep saying to themselves over and over again like a fucking mantra, okay?
[03:11:41] Why are you always unhappy no matter what Trump says?
[03:11:45] Well, that's a good thing.
[03:11:46] I'll start using it now.
[03:11:48] Clip out of context.
[03:11:49] Zach reacts.
[03:11:50] Take it out of context.
[03:11:51] You react.
[03:11:52] Get taken out of context.
[03:11:53] Zach reacts.
[03:11:54] Recycle and repeat.
[03:11:55] Misunderstanding slash misinterpretations.
[03:11:56] Okay.
[03:11:57] only one side in this, in this equation for the record that doesn't want to talk directly.
[03:12:02] And that is as many gold. The person who you are a fan of, I'm sure you've heard him explain
[03:12:09] away exactly why this is just my perspective on the outside. I don't dislike or don't
[03:12:14] like you. I do enjoy here though. Yeah, I'm just saying it's not like a both sides
[03:12:20] are, it's not like both sides are doing the wrong thing here. I mean, I'm, I'm
[03:12:24] very clearly stated. I very clearly stated my position on this. I'll have a conversation
[03:12:30] with them anytime, any place. Anyway, as I was saying though, as I was saying, I'm not
[03:12:37] going to fucking cast aside these people, by the way, I'm not going to say, you know,
[03:12:40] fuck you, because that only hardens their position and feeds into the polarization,
[03:12:50] regardless of how silly their world view may be.
[03:12:55] My point is, a lot of these people on the internet do not anchor themselves around a
[03:13:03] tangible goal around a specific worldview.
[03:13:07] They simply anchor themselves around individuals and the drama that they find to be fascinating.
[03:13:11] And that's the only way that they think they can consume political content.
[03:13:15] Okay?
[03:13:16] That's it.
[03:13:18] And in that realm, whoever drives clicks in a negative manner will always be fucking obliterated.
[03:13:28] That is precisely the reason why so many of these slop tubers and the centrists and even
[03:13:32] some of the liberals have identified someone like myself as a major threat.
[03:13:39] For the last two years consistently calling me a terrorist, even if they agree with my
[03:13:43] position on Israel now, back then they certainly didn't because they don't really have real
[03:13:50] positions on Israel. They're simply leaning into what they think, they're simply leading
[03:13:55] into what they think is the popular position. And for many in the audiences, for many in
[03:14:05] their audiences, they're just victims of propaganda. They're victims of misinformation. There's
[03:14:11] constantly there's a steady flow of people saying well you know Israel might be
[03:14:17] doing something wrong every now and then but those people kind of deserve it
[03:14:21] they're scary they're Muslim and if you hear that a million times over of course
[03:14:27] you're gonna agree with it why wouldn't you agree with it if there's no one in
[03:14:31] the bubble that you are that you've created for yourself that has actually
[03:14:38] told you if no one in your bubble has actually told you like, hey, this stuff is wrong. And
[03:14:48] the only time you hear someone who doesn't agree with you, you hear it in a completely
[03:14:54] out of context manner in the most negative framing possible, you're never going to broach
[03:14:59] the other side's point of view. You're never going to want to seek it out. You're never,
[03:15:03] never gonna entertain it right I get on negative tangents on stream to and you
[03:15:11] are 100% on one right now chill out with a nice relaxing game of blockzores
[03:15:14] we what I'm not on a negative tangent at all what
[03:15:21] but that's it
[03:15:25] If there is a steady flow of an endless sequence of negative framing on a political commentary
[03:15:47] person such as myself that is constantly feeding people's appetite, they're never going to
[03:15:53] actually turn around and and see whether or not there is any truth to these claims right they're
[03:16:02] just gonna go yeah this guy fucking sucks i can't wait to see the next episode of of why this guy
[03:16:08] fucking sucks yeah you're really being negative about the current events in 2025 uh america yeah
[03:16:19] that everybody who's part of the america first agenda should view being listed on this website
[03:16:23] as a qualification to run for office.
[03:16:25] If you get listed on this website
[03:16:27] as being an enemy of the goals of Israel,
[03:16:29] then you're actually America first.
[03:16:31] Like you can't say this about Palestine,
[03:16:33] you can't say this about Israel,
[03:16:34] and somebody who's an activist for this
[03:16:35] is going to be criticized in this way, it's ridiculous.
[03:16:37] They try to dox, mislabel, defame, slander,
[03:16:41] and misrepresent anybody who goes against their interests,
[03:16:44] and then creating a chilling effect
[03:16:46] across the entire country
[03:16:47] to prevent negative discourse about a country.
[03:16:49] They only have the power that you let them have.
[03:16:51] and so if you have if you see something like this happening
[03:16:53] you can just simply get enough people together and then make it stop happening
[03:16:56] but i think it's so much of it a lot of people together yes it's a by the way
[03:16:59] that's going to happen
[03:17:01] it's going in that direction and they can't stop it
[03:17:04] people don't want their country run by a foreign power
[03:17:06] and i think that it's no balling very very very fast
[03:17:09] so that was as many gold now
[03:17:11] talking about all this looks like israel first the trump regime is
[03:17:14] putting israel first that's a huge problem
[03:17:17] here's what he was saying not that long ago is removal under the state
[03:17:20] Marco Rubio's history that his continued presence and his actions in the United States actually
[03:17:23] compromise a foreign policy.
[03:17:25] Bro, I haven't got that line straight from you yet.
[03:17:27] In the past, the very same commentary that I made that he considered to be a terrorist
[03:17:33] commentary, pro-terrorism commentary, an anti-semitic commentary that deserves, that is worthy
[03:17:40] of deplatforming, he now has adopted.
[03:17:43] And he's gone even beyond.
[03:17:45] He actually does talk about how he wants to promote actual anti-Semites, right?
[03:17:53] And what changed is not his actual worldview for the record.
[03:17:57] What changed is the popular sentiment, so much so that even he realizes, like, he'll
[03:18:04] still hit the Hassan as an anti-Semitic terrorist button as he did with the Bondi Beach Massacre,
[03:18:11] right?
[03:18:12] Cause like in between him saying like, oh, these Israel first politicians need to go,
[03:18:17] he still turned around and said, oh, I bet Hassan's fans were responsible for the,
[03:18:22] the slaughter that took place, uh, on the, on the Hanukkah festival. So he's still
[03:18:28] pretty fucking gross about it. Right. He, he'll still go back and forth because for his audience,
[03:18:34] they're not anchored around like being pro-Israel or being anti-Israel, right? They're,
[03:18:38] They're anchored around resentment towards individuals.
[03:18:46] They're anchored, they're anchored around a consistent flow of like shitting on whoever his enemies are or damed enemies are.
[03:18:55] So he could one day turn around and be like, Oh, actually, I'm I'm on the fuck Israel side of things, and I'm really, really anti Israel.
[03:19:03] And I even understand why some people fight back against Israel, all this stuff, you know.
[03:19:07] adopt the things that I've been saying, the talking points that I've been saying all along.
[03:19:16] Those guys will still, his fan base will still require a steady flow of fuck-us-on content.
[03:19:21] So he'll still probably be inconsistent on that front because most of those guys won't
[03:19:25] turn around and go, wait, wait a minute, he's actually anti-Israel, Hassan is anti-Israel.
[03:19:31] So what's the disagreement here?
[03:19:32] Why is he still calling Hassan a terrorist?
[03:19:33] They won't think about it like that.
[03:19:35] You know, they'll simply look at it and be like, yeah, give me more.
[03:19:39] You see, and political priorities, that's very stunning, because that is actually the
[03:19:43] only thing that she ruled on today.
[03:19:45] She did not rule on the other allegations that were raised by DHS that he allegedly
[03:19:49] misrepresented information on his green card application.
[03:19:51] None of that matters.
[03:19:52] It doesn't have to matter.
[03:19:53] Like, they can just afford them for whatever reason they want.
[03:19:56] So that is the exact opposite of what his new take is.
[03:19:59] Mamur Khalil did the exact...
[03:20:01] Yeah.
[03:20:02] uh once again that was fucking bullshit that was utter horseshit he was celebrating mom and
[03:20:10] kelo getting uh deported he demanded more of it it was completely ridiculous at the time
[03:20:18] he was still in real time reacting to my commentary and i was saying like you're wrong
[03:20:23] about the law that the american government has to has to justify why they are seeking out the
[03:20:29] deportation of someone, especially someone who is married to an American citizen with a child on
[03:20:34] the way, who has a green card already, all of that stuff is bullshit. The Constitution actually
[03:20:39] protects citizens and non-citizens alike on first amendment grounds. He was completely wrong.
[03:20:50] He was completely wrong on that stuff, but his audience never actually turned around and went
[03:20:54] that because all that all those cases fell apart. Did his audience actually turn around
[03:20:59] and go, Hey, remember when you said that? Remember when you said mom and Khalil was supposed to
[03:21:05] be deported? And how good that was? Why didn't that happen? Right? Or when now he talks about
[03:21:20] um or or why uh his audience won't call into question his like full blown pivot on israel
[03:21:34] because he's always been like a edgy guy right so he's always like leaned into anti-Semitic
[03:21:39] news from time to time and never to be like see i'm based i'm edgy while also doing the work
[03:21:45] of Israel every single fucking day.
[03:21:55] He also tried to prove you wrong only to watch a clip of himself agreeing with Neniahu.
[03:22:02] Asmongol responded in my post about him backtracking his opposition to anti-Israel protest.
[03:22:06] There is.
[03:22:08] He said I'm lying to prove me wrong and showed an old video of himself watching
[03:22:11] Neniahu call anti-Israel protesters idiots but back then Asmongol said he's right.
[03:22:15] praise as well. A year of daily praise. It's crazy that this account is called
[03:22:19] Disinformation Tracker. I think that it's accurate because the entire account
[03:22:22] tracks disinformation by posting it every day. It's not true.
[03:22:27] No, it's just simply not true. Now claims he never trusted Trump.
[03:22:30] And he's saying, he says protesting Israel is America for us.
[03:22:33] Uh-huh. Despite prior calls for protest to be jailed and deported.
[03:22:36] So this entire idea that I'm just like warming up to the idea of being
[03:22:40] hostile towards Israel, or not even hostile, but just, you know,
[03:22:43] not wanting to support Israel as America. I mean, this is just it's just a factually untrue statement.
[03:22:48] And all you have to do is look at my videos and you'll immediately see that's true.
[03:22:53] Look at this. Watch. Watch this. This was crazy.
[03:23:05] Get ready. Get ready.
[03:23:13] He is correct about that though.
[03:23:15] Jesus.
[03:23:18] His chat is all saying, actually, he's being holy veins.
[03:23:21] Is there a point?
[03:23:22] No, no.
[03:23:22] Well, part of what he's saying is true.
[03:23:26] No, it is.
[03:23:27] That's amazing.
[03:23:27] And see?
[03:23:28] See?
[03:23:28] I've been consistent about this.
[03:23:30] See?
[03:23:30] Ha ha ha.
[03:23:32] What?
[03:23:34] Well, you really tackled that disinformation
[03:23:38] by showing of showing perhaps the most in opportune time where you are in agreement with Benjamin
[03:23:45] Netanyahu. I'm sure he didn't like that they were clapping like fucking seals, but he also
[03:23:53] was you need to focus and say how wrong he is because he likes to mention they're not
[03:23:59] saying I'm wrong. What do you mean he is wrong? He was wrong because he's inconsistent
[03:24:06] on this position he's at the mercy of his own chat he sees his own chat hit
[03:24:10] like well he's not wrong on this point though he's not wrong on this point though
[03:24:13] which is why he reflected that attitude on the one hand he understands that it
[03:24:18] looks really fucking strange that the entire Congress is clapping like fucking
[03:24:21] seals cackling like hyenas at the mere thought at every fucking applause
[03:24:28] break that a foreign leader is delivering to Congress, okay? But also, there are a lot of
[03:24:39] things that that foreign leader is saying that Asman Goldschat agrees with, like for
[03:24:43] example, all the pro-Palestinian protesters doing the bidding of Iran. And that's why
[03:24:52] he found himself directly agreeing. Curious, why did he click away before your clip played?
[03:24:58] Because you can't show the actual point even if it's like more than 30 seconds long.
[03:25:04] Because God forbid, you see me uninterrupted.
[03:25:07] Just like he did when he was watching my Rokana interview where he agreed with me.
[03:25:11] Okay?
[03:25:12] He knows it's the same reason why he doesn't want to have a conversation.
[03:25:15] He doesn't want to entertain a debate.
[03:25:17] He is worried that if we did actually have a conversation, he would realize that many
[03:25:23] of his audience have been misled, usually by Asmongold, about what my positions are.
[03:25:29] It's always been negatively framed. You have to control the flow of information.
[03:25:39] Him happening to agree with Netanyahu on one thing doesn't mean he agrees with them on everything.
[03:25:43] What part of that you don't understand? Oh, oh, oh, that's the point that I was trying to
[03:25:48] explain to you people like yourself don't recognize this. Okay? Here's the issue.
[03:25:59] He takes a wishy-washy centrist position while simultaneously heavily leaning
[03:26:06] against the anti-Israel protesters. If you are in agreement with the American government at the
[03:26:13] time deporting anti-israel protesters and you regularly lie to your audience or are just
[03:26:20] objectively incorrect about your understanding of the law, you're objectively incorrect about
[03:26:27] you know who for the first amendment actually chooses to protect and who it doesn't choose
[03:26:31] to protect all this stuff. If you demand deportations of people who are speaking out
[03:26:36] against a foreign country like Israel by the American government, okay, then it's understandable
[03:26:46] for people to assume that you might be a little bit more pro-Israel than you let on.
[03:26:58] That's it.
[03:26:59] This is the cope position.
[03:27:00] He never cared about Israel.
[03:27:01] I know he doesn't care about Israel.
[03:27:03] I know he doesn't give a shit about anything.
[03:27:05] That's my point. He doesn't have real political convictions at all. He's just feeding you
[03:27:10] whatever you want to hear. And I think he is pretty good at it, right? He's obviously
[03:27:16] pretty good at it, where his position is, is the most commonly held position on the
[03:27:20] right at this point, which is, I hate Muslims. They're all barbaric. They're all backwards.
[03:27:25] They shouldn't be coming to this country because they cannot assimilate to our
[03:27:28] glorious American culture and Western civilization is under attack. But also Israel led
[03:27:34] by Jews is, you know, destroying American culture in a different way, and is totally dominating
[03:27:40] Americans and totally humiliating Americans, bomb it all and let God sort it out. This
[03:27:45] is a position that a lot of right-wingers have. The difference, however, is that some
[03:27:49] people actually say enough is enough in terms of the amount of money that we're giving
[03:27:53] to Israel, in terms of the amount of influence that pro-Israel advocacy groups have,
[03:27:59] and then they do actually take a real anti-Israel position. They don't actually celebrate,
[03:28:04] You know, people like Mahmoud Khalil getting deported, Asman Gold is not one of those people.
[03:28:09] Asman Gold spent the last two years, like I said, over and over again, advocating for
[03:28:15] the pro-Israel position.
[03:28:17] He might have actually made you believe that he wasn't pro-Israel, but what matters
[03:28:20] in that situation is what kind of, what, like either he was a, either he was foolishly
[03:28:30] and inadvertently defending the pro-Israel position by saying all of Israel's critics
[03:28:36] must be deported, right? Or he was doing it on purpose, because if your position in this
[03:28:49] situation is, oh, Israel has too much control over the United States of America, but then
[03:28:53] you literally sound like fucking Barry Weiss over and over and over again, at a certain
[03:28:59] point someone should call in the question, what your actual opinion is, right? And unfortunately
[03:29:05] for many of you, or not people in this chat, but many of Asmongold's fans, they never actually
[03:29:12] try to dig deep or understand or even see the inconsistencies of Asmongold's position.
[03:29:22] it. And that's why there is this major inconsistency in his commentary. But I think for a lot of
[03:29:32] fans, they'll turn around and say, no, he's just like, you know, he just changed his mind.
[03:29:36] He just changed his mind. He has a new position on it. I don't think that's the case.
[03:29:39] Thing you were saying people should do.
[03:29:42] Why don't editors weaponize asmole's own words against them? Well, therein lies
[03:29:46] the problem because a lot of people, as Miguel does a very popular YouTuber and a very popular
[03:29:54] Twitch streamer for many, many years before he dove into the political arena, right?
[03:30:01] And because of that, because of the, you know, multiple decades that he has been around,
[03:30:06] he's cultivated a very diehard fan base.
[03:30:10] And he's also not shy about weaponizing his fan base against any of his critics.
[03:30:16] So when you have, when you have a lot of people in your fan base that are a part of all these
[03:30:24] other fan bases as well, whether it be, you know, moist criticals fan base or whether it
[03:30:29] be all the slop tubers and centrists and their fan bases as well, they're not going
[03:30:34] to go after him.
[03:30:35] Okay.
[03:30:37] They're not going to go after him.
[03:30:38] because they don't want to offend Asmongole fans in their audience, right? They've spent
[03:30:43] years and years cultivating a somewhat apolitical audience and a lot of these apolitical people
[03:30:48] will lean in that direction, okay? And when you actually do call out his hypocrisy or if you do
[03:31:00] call out his commentary, if you find it to be dangerous, for example, if you find it to
[03:31:07] to be silly or dangerous or whatever, and you actually do the Hassanabi technique on
[03:31:15] Asmongold for once, then you end up putting your flag in the sand. You say, I'm against
[03:31:23] this, and he will go after you. He will punish you for saying that, as he has over and
[03:31:29] over again. And people just don't want that. People don't want to be attacked by Asmongold's
[03:31:35] audience. Asman is incredibly consistent on his views, they just don't fit in a
[03:31:39] neat box, there's more nuance to it. He's supported the Israel stance in regards to
[03:31:42] Palestine, doesn't support Israel in regards to control over the American
[03:31:45] government. Okay, so you're saying he's pro-Israel doing a genocide, he just
[03:31:55] wants Israel to do the genocide with its own weapons, is that what you're
[03:31:59] saying? Yeah, he just didn't want America involved in Palestine at all. Yeah, without American
[03:32:17] involvement, Israel would not exist. So it doesn't really matter. So again, this reflects
[03:32:22] on your or his lack of understanding of history, because without American intervention and steady
[03:32:34] flow of weapons and political and social sport, material support to Israel, it would be Palestine.
[03:32:46] I suspect you're wrong on this and I'm certain that he has talked about Israel having a right
[03:32:54] to defend itself or even like iron dome spending and shit like that in the past as well.
[03:33:00] Criticizing Israel and they deported him for his free speech criticizing Israel.
[03:33:05] You supported that and now you're saying well obviously-
[03:33:08] It's like if you do you understand how silly that sounds by the way where you're like oh is
[03:33:12] He's just consistent in his position. It's just nuanced. Okay, then why the fuck do you think it's appropriate for the American government to spend any money deporting people who are also saying the same shit?
[03:33:23] Asmongold is saying now, which is that Israel has a lot of fucking influence over American politics and that must end.
[03:33:30] Do you understand how inconsistent that position is, Chatter?
[03:33:33] How can you on the one hand celebrate the deportation of people or the jailing of people that are
[03:33:40] literally in agreement with your position apparently?
[03:33:46] Genocide or not, whether you agree with Israel doing a genocide or you don't agree with
[03:33:51] Israel doing a genocide, what is clear is, yeah, he said this was based like the
[03:33:59] Tufts university PhD student PhD student being detained by federal agents. Same with fucking
[03:34:04] mom with Khalil. He said it was fucking cool. He said it was awesome. That is anti first amendment.
[03:34:12] Okay, bro. I like you, but your chat does the same thing. They go after people like rabbit dogs.
[03:34:20] I, unlike Asmogold, actively tell my chat never to go after people. So whether people do it
[03:34:26] or not, I at least try to get them to not do it, okay? And plus, you don't even have
[03:34:33] a fucking real world example of this. I even tell, I even tell people not to go after people
[03:34:41] who are calling me out with regular fucking frequency.
[03:34:49] It's probably a mistake.
[03:34:56] It's so fucking annoying because you hide behind the exact thing that he said.
[03:34:59] They have every right to do whatever they want.
[03:35:01] Does not equal I agree with or at least what he says.
[03:35:03] support Israel we shall all get on a list for criticizing Israel because that's a patriotic
[03:35:12] thing to do because they're doing Israel first we need to do America first this is incredible
[03:35:16] that's what that's what the rules say I said this at the beginning everybody's getting mad at me
[03:35:19] for saying brother it's not America first it's not America first once again while I don't I watch
[03:35:26] both you and him I don't agree with all his positions personally particularly on Israel
[03:35:29] pass on, but I didn't do think his views are consistent. You are watching an inconsistency
[03:35:34] and you are having a hard time, perhaps, because you might really like this guy. Okay. And that's,
[03:35:41] that's fine. You really like him and you don't want to see him. You, you don't want to see him
[03:35:47] be undermined. You don't want to see his worldview be undermined, undermined, because
[03:35:51] you agree with his worldview or at least you've been, you've been led to believe
[03:35:56] that his worldview is consistent. Okay? The question I have for you once again is, if you are America
[03:36:03] first and you agree with cutting ties with Israel, as you say, Asman Gold is consistent on,
[03:36:10] why would you want the American government to literally criminalize people who are criticizing
[03:36:15] Israel? I'm an American citizen. Asman Gold has demanded my deplatforming over and over again
[03:36:21] Because of my anti-Israel commentary
[03:36:25] Mahmoud Khalil is a green card holder
[03:36:27] Asmongold in this video is talking about how fucking based it is that Mahmoud Khalil
[03:36:33] For taking an anti-Israel stance should be deported from the country. That is not an america first position
[03:36:40] That is not a consistent position
[03:36:46] Do you understand
[03:36:52] It's like it's a fucking fact. Yeah, that's what the rules say that's fucked up though
[03:36:55] No, it's not what I do is revoke visas and it's very simple a visa is a it's not a right
[03:37:00] It is a privilege people apply for stuff right to come into the United States and that's right
[03:37:04] Get the fuck out bro get them the fuck out so they sacrifice their free speech if they come to this country
[03:37:10] They sacrifice their right to free speech now
[03:37:12] That's the whole point of a right a right means it's off the table. It's protected no matter what it's the opposite of a privilege
[03:37:19] A privilege is something that can be given and taken away.
[03:37:22] A right is something that's supposed to be set in stone off the table, always protected.
[03:37:26] So no, you don't sacrifice your right to-
[03:37:28] But if you are objectively anti-first amendment, then I don't understand how you can be America
[03:37:33] first.
[03:37:34] It's additionally funny to be objectively anti-first amendment in defense of not
[03:37:41] even America, but a foreign country, Israel, in this situation.
[03:37:47] It's the least pro-America first position you can arrive at.
[03:37:50] The free speech for an immigrant to this country, we all at one point or another were
[03:37:54] immigrants to this country.
[03:37:55] Does that mean we can't criticize the government?
[03:37:58] We can't say things they don't like, want us to say?
[03:38:00] No, this is literally against the First Amendment, against the Constitution.
[03:38:02] This is what I voted for.
[03:38:04] It's crazy that left wing people have gotten flanked so bad that this is now a position
[03:38:09] that they have to fight against.
[03:38:11] That what Ms. Ostrock did?
[03:38:12] We're not going to give you a little check and you're going to do that.
[03:38:14] Look how mad he is.
[03:38:15] Yeah, he's mad because somebody was deported for writing an op-ed that was mildly critical of Israel
[03:38:21] That's why he's mad actually if I remember correctly her case. She was like
[03:38:25] Disappeared for a while. Yeah
[03:38:28] Yeah, 100% and it was so bad even Charlie Kirk actually criticized that one
[03:38:34] Okay, that one was so insane
[03:38:38] That even Charlie Kirk was like this is a bridge too far
[03:38:42] Understand how fucking psychotic that is
[03:38:45] I remember Charlie Kirk who was super on board with the deportation of mom and
[03:38:52] Khalil saw the Ozturk situation and was like this is a little bit too much I
[03:38:59] think this is a direct violation even though both are direct violations
[03:39:05] Ramazza Ozturk was black bagged and kidnapped in broad fucking daylight for
[03:39:12] an article that she wrote lightly criticizing Israel in her college newspaper. Nothing radical
[03:39:20] even though if she wrote something radical it still would have been unjustifiable.
[03:39:25] But this adds insult to injury. They like disappeared her.
[03:39:28] Enraged face.
[03:39:29] I did do that Mr. Secretary.
[03:39:30] And every single one of these things smoke here.
[03:39:32] The bottom line is if you're going to serve trouble on our campuses we will
[03:39:35] deny you right. And if you have-
[03:39:36] Why did this guy stop responding by the way? I don't think you are fully
[03:39:40] informed on how he operates why did the other guy stop responding when I pointed
[03:39:44] out this inconsistency it shouldn't if I could go back in time and vote for him I
[03:39:51] absolutely would I did not think that he was going to go this hard at all or
[03:39:56] protest what makes a protest unlawful the refusal to disperse when the police
[03:39:59] tell you to disperse and the like restricting access and freedom of
[03:40:04] movement in a public place in yeah when China does this by the way he will
[03:40:09] say this is authoritarian. Okay, understand this. If the police control the boundaries
[03:40:17] of protest, then they could just say every protest is unlawful. And as a matter of fact,
[03:40:22] as someone who has attended many protests, I will tell you, they do that all the time.
[03:40:27] Okay? That is also a violation of the First Amendment. Taking on every single instance
[03:40:36] of state violence and saying well it's justifiable because the cop said so is basically the same
[03:40:42] way that like people defend Russia or people defend protests that that get uh uh tackled or or
[03:40:49] dispersed in places like china everywhere else around the world this is what happens this is
[03:40:54] what states do i agree with you i think he was wrong in that situation about the deportation
[03:40:58] of khalil i think he was positioning himself against palestine in that instance so in that
[03:41:02] instance he was pros but what the fuck does that even mean brother i don't understand anymore
[03:41:06] Okay, so he was inconsistent then.
[03:41:11] That was my point.
[03:41:12] He is being inconsistent.
[03:41:14] It is not America first at all.
[03:41:17] You are trying to figure out a way to justify the previous argument that you made.
[03:41:22] One of the greatest, most liberating things that one can do is to say, you know what?
[03:41:28] Maybe I was wrong on this.
[03:41:29] I promise you, you will win a lot more favors in that regard, okay?
[03:41:35] okay. Like I'm not going to bully you. I'm not going to penalize you. I'm not going to punish you.
[03:41:39] I'm not even going to fucking remember what you said prior.
[03:41:45] Why is it that Asman fans come to try to debate you yet Asman avoids the debate or talk to you?
[03:41:50] Um, because Asmongold fans have an anonymity at least. So I can't like call into question
[03:41:54] their previous statements. So they think they can be sheltered like that. But all they're
[03:41:57] doing is regurgitating Asmongold's talking points. And Asmongold knows better than all of his
[03:42:02] fans to not come and have a conversation with me because I will immediately call out that
[03:42:07] inconsistency. He just doesn't want to, he doesn't want to be embarrassed. Yeah. Asman's fans are
[03:42:19] duped. Asman knows that, which is why he's afraid. And many of his fans won't even actually come in
[03:42:24] here and entertain my side, which is precisely the reason why I don't go too hard on Asman
[03:42:29] golds fans unless they're like literally coming in here to be like you're a fucking terrorist.
[03:42:33] I'm going to kill you. Right. And there are plenty of those and we banned them. But when
[03:42:37] someone comes in here, uh, as a fan of asthma gold, I don't immediately fucking, uh, attack them
[03:42:43] because at least those people are literally entertaining my position without being negatively
[03:42:50] framed. Okay. Yeah. Being in an echo chamber does feel good. I totally get that.
[03:42:59] You don't follow reason he does once again.
[03:43:11] I just showed you how unreasonable this inconsistency is.
[03:43:17] I know you can just repeat that over and over again like a mantra is like a self soothing
[03:43:21] behavior like a baby.
[03:43:26] Just because someone says that they're actually utilizing facts, utilizing logic, you're full
[03:43:33] of contradictions law, present to me a contradiction in any of my political opinions, please.
[03:43:39] Let me guess, socialism but house, socialism but rich, right?
[03:43:42] That's not a contradiction, but you assume it's a contradiction and you will continue
[03:43:46] to present it as a contradiction.
[03:43:50] Go ahead, give me an example.
[03:43:54] You said you were not gay.
[03:43:56] That's funny.
[03:44:02] I was wrong on a point and I looked for that chatter for two friggin days and tell them
[03:44:05] they were right and I was wrong.
[03:44:07] Lol the fuck you wanna be right for if you know you're not.
[03:44:16] I'm a fan of both of you but when you frame his positions disingenuously and hyperbolically
[03:44:20] it doesn't sit quite right with me.
[03:44:21] I generally like your takes.
[03:44:23] Okay, what is the position that I'm framing disingenuously or hyperbolically?
[03:44:29] Asmengold is inconsistent on his stances as it pertains to Israel.
[03:44:34] Asmengold, in this video, is very clearly showcasing so much support for people who are critical of Israel.
[03:44:44] And now Asmengold himself is actually saying the exact same things that he demanded people get deported over.
[03:44:52] Do you feel like that was a sincere, and you say he's for the genocide, but he isn't, for example?
[03:45:00] Brother, he literally said that the Palestinians are worthy of genocide because they have a,
[03:45:06] what are you talking about? That was his own position. You want me to pull up the clip? I'm
[03:45:10] sure he might have changed his position from that point on, but he did openly say that.
[03:45:16] That's not what he said. Yeah, Palestinians are an inferior culture that's incredibly violent,
[03:45:20] and that's why I don't care if they're being genocided.
[03:45:26] If you consider that to not be pro-genocide,
[03:45:29] then why the fuck do you hate Barry Weiss, for example?
[03:45:46] Like, this doesn't make any sense.
[03:45:48] These have to be troll comments on purpose using framing to look contentious. Yeah, I this is what I don't understand
[03:45:53] But a genocide as a systematic killing of a group of people they have genocide built into Sharia law right now
[03:46:02] So no, I'm not going to cry a fucking river when people who have genocide that's baked into their laws are getting
[03:46:09] Genocide it. I don't give a fuck. They're terrible people
[03:46:13] Yes, pull it up. That's not what he said. Okay, it's not even a question
[03:46:18] It's crazy that people don't see it that way.
[03:46:23] They'd be doing the same thing.
[03:46:27] Sometimes I feel like Asmongole fans come in here to do like a slam dunk compilation for
[03:46:31] me.
[03:46:32] Like where they just come in here to showcase like how, how, you know, they think they can
[03:46:38] have like a, like a semantics perverted, perverted debate, okay, over the minutiae,
[03:46:45] but it just like doesn't it doesn't work at all
[03:46:49] and how much did they kill
[03:46:50] as many as they can
[03:46:53] they're not able to kill as many people as israel because they don't have as many
[03:46:56] bombs as many weapons
[03:46:58] but if they did they'd be doing the same thing
[03:47:02] that's it just takes enough that's right
[03:47:04] these people are not your allies they are not
[03:47:07] just gave a contradiction law way what
[03:47:11] what's that
[03:47:13] What's the contradiction?
[03:47:16] Brother, you have to be able to give me one example, right?
[03:47:23] You just said you support.
[03:47:25] Oh, contradiction, you support CCP police.
[03:47:27] But are pro-protests in the USA?
[03:47:29] At what point did I say that I was against protests in China?
[03:47:35] Point to a single instance where I've ever
[03:47:37] said protest in China is actually
[03:47:40] wrong and immoral or bad.
[03:47:42] As a matter of fact, I think you didn't understand my point that I was making earlier when I said
[03:47:48] suppression of dissent, no matter where it is, whether it be China or Russia is wrong.
[03:47:58] Okay?
[03:48:00] Did you hear me say that just now?
[03:48:03] Is that why you just like leaned into that?
[03:48:08] Look at your actions in China total contradictions. What are you talking about? Oh?
[03:48:20] He's right though. Okay, so
[03:48:23] So you agree with him on
[03:48:26] His position you agree with is like I don't care about Israel genociding Palestinian position because that's a little different
[03:48:33] You say he's for the genocide, but he isn't for example, but you agree with them
[03:48:38] So, what you're doing here is not actually addressing the position that Asmongold is taking.
[03:48:43] You just simply agree with him and therefore you don't want to admit that you and him on
[03:48:49] this issue are on the progenicide position.
[03:48:54] Okay, got it.
[03:48:59] No, I mean, that's understandable.
[03:49:02] you're
[03:49:08] you're missing a huge contradiction. He used to talk to you literally on steam on stream
[03:49:12] and now he says all kinds of shit to avoid talking to you saying you're bad faith or
[03:49:15] that he doesn't like talking to you talking to people because the reason is no I know
[03:49:20] notice how everyone that says I'm a fan of both of you
[03:49:24] sometimes weirdly enough are definitely fans of one side and not the other.
[03:49:34] It's just so strange because people will always be like, no, I'm a fan of both of you, but
[03:49:38] I mean, Asmongold is actually very logical.
[03:49:43] I just look, I hope that's the case and I hope you guys can be open minded, especially
[03:49:50] because you're here.
[03:49:52] You know, especially because you're here.
[03:49:53] I like to assume that even on accident you might actually arrive at my my positions somehow you might just get like
[03:50:02] It's worse than that I think it's about Hassan not getting mad when during his interaction with a cop in China that's so funny
[03:50:14] That's not a contradiction the American police regardless of my American citizenship
[03:50:21] the border police have detained me and in violation of American laws against an
[03:50:28] American citizen demanded answers for what my political associations were and
[03:50:34] detained me for two hours as opposed to a two-minute back-and-forth conversation
[03:50:39] that ended with me continuing my stream at Tiananmen Square as a foreigner in a
[03:50:44] foreign adversary it's pretty pretty obvious that my position there is
[03:50:49] consistent as well. Do I think it's appropriate to look at people's phones?
[03:50:54] Of course not. I think it's fucking ridiculous. Having said that, I'm going
[03:50:58] to match that with my experiences that I've had with my own country, where I
[03:51:02] have so much more power. I'm supposed to have so many more rights and
[03:51:06] liberties, a country that actually does have free speech that is not
[03:51:09] abiding by the principles of free speech when they do things like that.
[03:51:19] Once again, this is not a contradiction.
[03:51:26] My own country, my own country, and the police that I actually pay the salaries of have opened
[03:51:34] fire on myself and my neighbors while we were out exercising our first amendment rights
[03:51:39] that are supposed to be constitutionally protected.
[03:51:42] That I think is unacceptable.
[03:51:48] i'm not pro-genocide either obviously i do really enjoy your streams and your
[03:51:51] takes bridges misinterpret things in such a hyperbolic way that sometimes
[03:51:54] it makes it a little bit less credible
[03:51:55] whether when someone says
[03:51:57] israel uh... israel doing a genocide is perfectly valid i don't really care
[03:52:01] because like
[03:52:03] invented reason palestinians of genocide baked into their dna
[03:52:06] and you say you agree with them
[03:52:08] then i don't understand why you're still claiming that you're not pro-genocide
[03:52:12] we can hear the things that you're saying it's not a misinterpretation
[03:52:16] we can hear the things he's saying here
[03:52:19] it's very strange
[03:52:21] it's a very strange thing that people do
[03:52:26] you are saying you're progenicide you're agreeing with azmongold saying he's
[03:52:29] progenicide at least in that moment he might have changed his attitude since
[03:52:32] then
[03:52:41] this chatter is a raises live that has hurt feelings over feeling called out
[03:52:44] I don't know. I don't think he's a racist lib peating travel. Yeah, it's very simple
[03:52:47] It's so simple roadblocks and the scope of the protests is big. I don't know. I mean like I feel like this is like a national event
[03:52:54] Yeah, this is this is a national event. It's a really big fucking deal
[03:52:57] And so like I think this this transcends like a small protest or whatever
[03:53:00] I mean, this is a direct protest against the government and also like I'm sure that I mean and also this is mainly at night
[03:53:05] Right. I mean you're looking a lot of this at nights
[03:53:07] It's probably not as me feel driving around like obviously it's not good to block traffic
[03:53:10] But I feel like that's not really like the entire city the entire country is being shut down, right?
[03:53:14] So the tune has changed Hassan also commented on this
[03:53:18] He said the rats are escaping the sinking ship as many gold commended the ADL when they were getting pro-Palestinian
[03:53:24] CCs the platform for criticizing Israel for the past two years
[03:53:28] He supported Trump deporting Mahmood Khalil now
[03:53:31] He's trying to pivot to an anti Israel position and that's the point that everybody needs to realize
[03:53:36] I think it's interesting how you give as many everyone so much grace and then people come in here and won't give you an inch all
[03:53:41] The bad faith showcase on a regular basis astounding
[03:53:46] Principles matter that is a principle that I have
[03:53:51] And although I have weak moments where I say enough is enough and I yell and whatever the fuck right
[03:54:00] Okay principles matter
[03:54:02] That's why I yell at my chat when they constantly fucking when that's why I yell at my chat when they say oh
[03:54:11] Why are you being so kind to these people? You should be fucking really giving it to them and I say no
[03:54:15] That's not how I operate. I argue with my community all the time on what the best practices are
[03:54:22] Okay
[03:54:24] It's funny because you said people will flip on Israel, but they didn't flip because they care about genocide. They cared because the neo-Nazi convinced them Jews run the world.
[03:54:38] No, I think that it's a little bit of both.
[03:54:42] As we receive so much less flag and even receive positively if he just said the words I was wrong before he did this
[03:54:51] Oh for sure, and I'm sure he will do that as well
[03:54:54] Eventually on on more indefensible flip-flops and then liberals will dive into
[03:55:00] How how wonderful and how open-minded he is because they're always looking for a person
[03:55:04] This dude literally said you provided material support to a terrorist organization and this chatter wants to talk about hyperbolic. Yeah
[03:55:12] Yeah, at a time when the administration was openly trying to fucking prosecute people,
[03:55:18] myself included when they detained me, they tried to say that I was, you know, they were
[03:55:23] investigating whether or not I was providing material support to a terrorist organization
[03:55:26] as Mngol was running around saying that that was the case.
[03:55:30] And then people still have the audacity to fucking turn around and make it seem as
[03:55:34] though I'm the one who's being hyperbolic.
[03:55:37] And I'm the one who's being hyperbolic because I'm actually calling out the inconsistency
[03:55:41] for the record.
[03:55:46] All problem with being the leftist is that we're right too early.
[03:55:50] On everything, we're right too early. Yes. And then eventually everybody catches up and goes,
[03:55:55] oh yeah, well, that's the dope position. We all agree to that. And I'm not kidding. Think about
[03:55:59] the Iraq war. I remember I'm old enough to remember living through that era. This was a
[03:56:04] really funny one too. This is like a perfectly captured inconsistency. Here, Asmongole,
[03:56:10] The son is a fake revolutionary. He's not not on the street putting his life on the line here
[03:56:14] If you want to understand like his attitude this 55 second clip basically
[03:56:20] Explains everything okay here
[03:56:25] See a son no, I don't see a son. I heard he was out there
[03:56:28] I don't know. I think that I saw an image of it. I think he's on like the side of the top
[03:56:33] So he's not actually going to go down there and stand in the in the in this area because if he did he get in trouble
[03:56:43] Right like he has no problem warping as a revolutionary, but actually putting it on the line
[03:56:48] This is going to be very different which to be fair he was well if he was actually doing that
[03:56:52] He should get in trouble like I mean for sure. He was though. Yeah, I don't know
[03:56:56] I'd have to go and double check he already did. Oh, I'd have to double see and see it
[03:57:00] Yeah, I mean, in my opinion, I think all these people should just get arrested.
[03:57:06] That's really how I see it.
[03:57:07] Yeah, I mean, I don't see how it's like there's no other solution to it other than that.
[03:57:14] Aren't they impeding a highway?
[03:57:15] They are.
[03:57:16] They're impeding a highway.
[03:57:24] The most consistent, the most consistent man in American politics.
[03:57:28] We're a rubber bullet miss your head by like an inch or two there in this one, right?
[03:57:32] Yes, this is where we were me and Mars were down here and we got fucking stung gradient in this one too
[03:57:42] Is it even legal to take such a sharp u-turn I mean it's celebrated and it's cherished
[03:57:52] But once again
[03:57:54] As Magal fans, don't care that this is like openly being inconsistent, especially because
[03:58:07] it's about tackling enemies, okay?
[03:58:11] If you are inconsistent when you are shitting on someone who is an ordained enemy, an ontologically
[03:58:18] evil enemy. No amount of inconsistency will snap people out of it.
[03:58:36] I like the hutch version of this where he shows how he's so good at always being wrong. The bald
[03:58:39] head is truly empty yeah. Here yeah another great example of this is also the inconsistency within
[03:58:49] like the way these guys as someone in the chat said the way these guys are constantly calling
[03:58:57] everyone a Karen or whiny right but all they do is fucking wine but they're whining in the direction
[03:59:06] that people agree with the people in their fan bases agree with so they don't read that as whiny
[03:59:12] What's more Karen like and whiny than fucking constantly complaining that video games
[03:59:19] Don't have large enough titties for your excitement
[03:59:25] Like demanding developers get fired because they're you know gay or they're putting gay
[03:59:30] in video games and it just like hurts your feelings to see that.
[03:59:33] And it's ridiculous.
[03:59:35] Complaining about ridiculous irrelevant shit and trying to harm people.
[03:59:41] That right there is is peak care and hood.
[03:59:47] It's the same reason why.
[03:59:50] A lot of the right that complain about identity politics
[03:59:55] don't realize that they're routinely doing identity politics
[03:59:58] when they talk about white men being under attack.
[04:00:03] When they're doing white identity politics,
[04:00:05] they don't think that it's identity politics.
[04:00:08] Do you understand?
[04:00:11] All of it is fucking inconsistent.
[04:00:21] Oh, I'm pro first amendment,
[04:00:23] but also if you offend me or you hurt my feelings,
[04:00:27] you should be fucking drawn and quartered.
[04:00:36] And in that era, if you said, I'm against the Iraq war,
[04:00:40] why do you hate the troops?
[04:00:41] Why are you defending Saddam Hussein?
[04:00:43] Why are you okay with evil dictators?
[04:00:45] Like you got hit with every bullshit argument under the sun.
[04:00:48] And that was one of my favorite things too,
[04:00:50] like even with the Charlie Kirk stuff.
[04:00:53] Asmond Gold and many others on the right who are, you know, Mr. Even if it hurts your feelings, free speeches, free speech, no one should be canceled. We hate cancel culture.
[04:01:04] We're actively championing websites, doxing websites that were identifying people that had even posted Charlie Kirk quotes so they would be fired from their jobs.
[04:01:15] jobs. They did that. And now I'm sure they've moved on from that position because everyone
[04:01:20] is actually clowning on Charlie Kirk's legacy, right? Now the Kirkification memes are so fucking,
[04:01:28] now the Kirkification memes are so prominent that like they can't even, they can't even
[04:01:33] defend that position, right?
[04:01:37] One of my favorite versions of that was the pedophile neo-nazi Sam Hyde, Mr. Edge, okay?
[04:01:47] Mr. Oh, I'm responsible for every mass shooting. His community is comprised entirely of fucking,
[04:01:53] you know, pedophilic neo-nazis who love how edgy daddy is. Sam Hyde fucking backed himself
[04:01:59] into a corner because he cried after Charlie Kirk got killed and his fans were fucking
[04:02:04] running around being like, oh my god, you made Sam Hyde cry.
[04:02:10] Now he can't even engage in the Kirkification memes.
[04:02:15] He basically laid his fucking position as Mr. Edge at they killed Charlie Kirk and now
[04:02:22] I'm crying and we must punish everyone.
[04:02:28] I didn't fucking forget.
[04:02:30] What happened to the Edge?
[04:02:33] happen to the fucking edge?
[04:02:40] Asmongold defended the firing of a ghost of Yote Dev and said he will follow and
[04:02:44] make sure she will never get a job.
[04:02:46] That's it.
[04:02:49] Anti-SJWs behave in the same exact way the SJWs behave.
[04:02:54] They railed against SJWs not because of the form and not because of,
[04:03:00] of, uh, you know, what they were doing, being a nuisance or fucking, you know, trying to get people
[04:03:05] fired or anything. They argued against them because they didn't agree with their worldview. They don't
[04:03:11] care about the tactics. They agree with the tactics. Okay. To be fair, Dean Withers is the
[04:03:16] same thing and he still does Charlie Kirk memes after crying. Yeah, I don't care.
[04:03:21] Like, okay, fine. I know. I saw.
[04:03:30] It was overwhelming like they did the propaganda build up and it was like some super there was never a moment
[04:03:39] There was never a moment where I entertained like offering reverence to Charlie Kirk or whitewashing his legacy
[04:03:47] from the first moment on and
[04:03:49] It's really interesting because Nick Fuentes who spent another another person who spent his entire fucking political career
[04:03:57] Shitting on Charlie Kirk stalking him actively, right?
[04:04:00] Literally yelled
[04:04:03] About my response to Charlie Kirk he was like a song should be crying
[04:04:10] Like a song should be crying about Charlie Kirk. How dare he how dare he not respond in the way that I think he should respond
[04:04:16] Now he's also doing the fucking Charlie Kirk memes. What happened?
[04:04:22] What happened?
[04:04:30] The thing is, I feel like Dean, given his position on the political spectrum, probably gets yelled
[04:04:40] at a lot more for doing a 180 than any number of different people on the right.
[04:04:45] That's the other side of this, because the right-wingers don't give a shit about hypocrisy
[04:04:49] at all, or don't give a shit about people's attitudes changing at all.
[04:04:53] As long as you're still attacking the common enemy, that's all it is.
[04:04:57] Large majority of the country that supported the war.
[04:04:59] If you were a leftist, you were right too early.
[04:05:02] Now, you can't find anybody that supports the Iraq War.
[04:05:05] Everybody agrees with every point we made from day one.
[04:05:08] Right? This is the thing.
[04:05:10] Lefties are always right too early, and that's exactly what happened in this case too.
[04:05:14] We were right when we talked about how Trump sent the fucking Epstein files.
[04:05:18] And Trump is Epstein's best friend.
[04:05:20] And Trump committed all sorts of heinous crimes with underage girls.
[04:05:23] We were right about that.
[04:05:25] People are catching up to that. Now that he's hiding it very clearly,
[04:05:28] They released pictures of the EPC files that had him in it, then they pulled it down.
[04:05:32] Everybody sees what's happening. Everybody understands. And they go, oh, shit, this is
[04:05:36] unacceptable. You know, we said Trump is bought known by the Israel lobby.
[04:05:40] Miriam Adelson gave him $100 million and he did her bidding. Now the quid pro quo is
[04:05:44] they're going to get to steal. Israel's going to get to steal the West Bank.
[04:05:48] We warned you about that. It's happening right in front of our eyes.
[04:05:50] I told you the peace deal was fake. I was the only person saying it on day one.
[04:05:53] I'm not a D stand by any means, but I don't think he would even call it a 180.
[04:05:56] he was there when it happened. No, I don't think, uh, I don't think Dean was there when
[04:06:00] it happened. Parker was there when it happened. But like you can at least say Dean knows Charlie
[04:06:04] Kirk and stuff. You know, he's met Charlie Kirk shit like that. I don't know. It doesn't
[04:06:08] matter. I don't give a fuck about, uh, the, the hypocrisy baiting, uh, in general, it
[04:06:14] was Parker that was there and not Dean that was there. And, and regardless, he's,
[04:06:20] What did I say at the time? I said he's young, okay?
[04:06:25] I said it even back then. He's young.
[04:06:28] He's like fucking 19 years old, dude. Of course.
[04:06:32] A dude that he had seen, a dude that he had met,
[04:06:36] a dude that he was trying to debate got the fucking clapped.
[04:06:39] It's an emotional moment. He's probably a little bit traumatized, you know?
[04:06:42] He's traumatic for a lot of people. Myself included.
[04:06:45] I was very open about it. Even on the day of, I was telling you like,
[04:06:48] you like, look, my commentary on this is probably going to be a lot different than what you expect,
[04:06:54] because like it's impossible for me not to see this as like myself in the, in the same exact
[04:06:59] situation. This is a person that I have debated since 2017, right? Make no mistake. I'm not going
[04:07:07] to fucking defend him at all. I'm not going to defend his positions at all. And I will tackle
[04:07:12] anyone that tries to fucking claim that Charlie Kirk was actually, you know, doing politics the
[04:07:16] right way or whatever, but you know, is a traumatic first response.
[04:07:25] That the ceasefire in Israel was fake. I've been proven 100% correct about that, right?
[04:07:30] You name an issue, I will tell you how the left has been correct too early and we get
[04:07:34] dumped on for being correct. And then eventually everybody comes to our position. So now,
[04:07:39] you know, you're pointing out how Trump is actually Israel first and he's not U.S.
[04:07:42] first, right? So now you're pointing out, oh, that's kind of problematic and he's
[04:07:45] doing some fucked up shit. Now it's, we better criticize Israel and we better get
[04:07:49] our name on that list of people who criticize Israel. Before it was deport
[04:07:53] the immigrants who are criticizing Israel, correctly. So this is what we go
[04:07:58] through. This is what we go through. But you know what? It's okay. So at the end
[04:08:00] of the day, I will take it that people are moving in the right direction,
[04:08:03] which is why, by the way, Trump's now at a 35% approval rating and it's
[04:08:07] only gonna get lower. Inflation is going up, unemployment is going up, the
[04:08:11] trade war was fucking stupid, he's trying to do regime change in Venezuela.
[04:08:14] Iran is not done yet if you think they're done trying to overthrow Iran you're just wrong bombing Yemen bombing Somalia threatening Panama
[04:08:21] invading US cities with the US military
[04:08:23] Rounding up innocent people putting them in concentration camps. I mean the list goes on and on the list good the most corrupt regime
[04:08:29] We've seen ever in US history and it's not even close robbing his own supporters making billions of dollars while in the White House off of the White House
[04:08:38] Like this is we've never seen anything like this before right and now every what's happened now is
[04:08:44] the rolling thunder thing where they hit you with 10 things a day, all of those things are so bad and
[04:08:48] it's all stacking on top of the next thing like this, like this, like this, to the point where
[04:08:53] you can't, like there's no way you can go through a day without hearing something horrific that the
[04:08:58] regime is doing. And so it's waking people up. It's waking people up, you know, sending 40,
[04:09:04] sending 40 billion dollars to Argentina while Americans are starving and losing their health
[04:09:07] care. What the fuck is that? You know, that's something that even a guy like
[04:09:10] like, Azmin Gold's gonna look at that and go,
[04:09:12] really?
[04:09:13] Really?
[04:09:14] And so here we are.
[04:09:15] And so here we are.
[04:09:16] The rats are escaping the sinking ship.
[04:09:20] And look, the only thing you have to look out for is,
[04:09:23] until Trump is totally politically gonzo,
[04:09:28] you will see this back and forth thing.
[04:09:29] How many times have we seen it
[04:09:30] with different right-wing figures?
[04:09:32] How many times have we seen it with Alex?
[04:09:33] Yep, absolutely.
[04:09:34] He's 100% right on this too.
[04:09:37] Like, until the Trump admin is completely fucking gone, until the Trump administration
[04:09:47] is like, utterly indefensible, he's low Kirk being a caring here.
[04:09:51] If you guys want to make a list, I have time, if I have time tomorrow, I can put them all
[04:09:54] together in a video with links to their employers does, wait, what's Asmongol's current take
[04:10:02] on the Charlie Kirk memes?
[04:10:04] Is he still actually a fake get mad at that shit or no?
[04:10:10] Cause I don't know, I don't.
[04:10:14] Is my dog, Kaia.
[04:10:15] Yeah, this is the first time I've ever seen like a set up like yeah, this is your first
[04:10:41] time and in a twitch stream on a twitch yeah okay what are the rules um nothing no rules
[04:10:49] is just chill van layden everybody oh you're doing it right now oh yeah i'm live i'm doing
[04:10:54] live there's 30,000 people watching 30,000 people watching yeah yeah i'm i'm i'm out right
[04:11:00] now i have no idea how i mean look i'm on to our way hold you i'm 45 okay you're more
[04:11:06] than I am but but I'm also you're not look at all no 34 is supposed to be like
[04:11:11] big bro but I think oh I also don't show your phone on that camera that's the
[04:11:16] camera that we're using yeah I want to see my sport page but yeah we can we
[04:11:21] can look at it but in this realm in this realm you're any anything over the
[04:11:29] age of anything over the age of like 20 your uncle they treat you like yeah
[04:11:34] They treat you like you're dying and to be fair. I am dying a little bit. I like you know busted my ankle
[04:11:41] Yeah, I mean a little bit. What's your game? Who's your game? Like who would you compare your game?
[04:11:46] They say say a little bit like yokich, but a little bit like yokich. Yeah, they call me the Turkish yokich
[04:11:57] Okay, hold on hold on
[04:12:01] Yeah, I got you I got you I got you hold on
[04:12:04] I'm here. Where is it?
[04:12:12] How the sun shined in the creative basketball tournament.
[04:12:15] No, I know, but I want the original video.
[04:12:17] Who you are here playing against, though?
[04:12:18] That's the thing I was playing against.
[04:12:20] You'll see. OK, I'm going to show it to you.
[04:12:22] I'm going to show it to you. Hold on.
[04:12:24] Oh, here's the big 16 of the biggest creators
[04:12:26] who hope for a one day one tournament and the winner gets ten thousand dollars.
[04:12:31] And the first matchup is drumroll cash verse. No, he was with Nick Briggs.
[04:12:42] I don't know. He was when cash nasty. One of the guys did what Nick when that when when
[04:12:48] the pandemic happened, I got hooked on these crazy street ball games.
[04:12:53] Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know about the other guy, but he was one of
[04:12:57] the guys. I think Casnasi was he probably wasn't with him, but he had a beef with Nick Bricks
[04:13:03] or Nick Braz or whatever. Nick Braz? I don't know. You know that guy, the guy that like
[04:13:07] he, he dunks like the white guy. He never seen his crazy street ball. Like they go in the
[04:13:14] baton Rouge like crazy. Wait, are you talking about the guy who looks like Ninja, the white
[04:13:19] guy, the dunk guy, the dunk guy. Yeah, he dunks. Oh yeah. So he had a beef with Casnasi.
[04:13:24] He did I was watching this we were I was literally in Santorini and I'm watching this stuff
[04:13:31] Over and over that there was a whole drama between Nick Briss and cash nasty
[04:13:41] Wait, maybe this is a different white guy actually because I the one I'm thinking about the one I'm thinking about is a different white guy
[04:13:47] I
[04:13:52] But he started off he started off as a
[04:13:57] Dude who he would do those those videos like LeBron be like and he would act like him
[04:14:02] When he was like Duncan and trying to act like he's mimicking his
[04:14:06] Player mannerisms and then he became a street ball. I want to see you hope though
[04:14:09] Okay, so I just wanted to set it up for you so you understand like the competition is pretty fucking solid, right?
[04:14:14] Yeah, um, where is the first game I rips?
[04:14:19] Oh here. This is my first game
[04:14:21] That's you. All right. Let's see. I think oh, no j dub is there too. No, that's not me. That's j dub
[04:14:26] I don't know why I thought that was me. That's crazy
[04:14:29] Wish I could play like, you know j dub, right? You might have seen him. Yeah, I seen him
[04:14:33] I see a lot of these basketball. Yeah, they're all pretty big basketball creators
[04:14:37] So but like there were there were actual ballers like actual Hooper creators. Yeah, and then there were
[04:14:43] Then there were people like myself who aren't like Hooper content creators at all what you
[04:14:49] write what you play but we like kind of play some of the people don't even play at all honestly like they I
[04:14:55] Feel like Jester brought us in just to get us to be dominated, right?
[04:15:00] But then you know here it is. So it's my first game
[04:15:07] So scared you got the final matchup of the first round so
[04:15:13] But what's your experience?
[04:15:23] One of the disaffected nails that is like a griper
[04:15:31] He's a really nice guy he's a youtuber as well. He's I forget but he's a he's a youtuber
[04:15:39] He told me he was a fan
[04:15:43] I'm gonna make sure I
[04:15:50] Know here is confident as Hudson is I'm an old man
[04:15:54] They brought me out here specifically so like you know
[04:15:57] They could do some dunk compilations off of like a person that at least is comparable in size to like a Chris
[04:16:03] But I do like I just the pitch
[04:16:06] What do they I know I've known Justin for a minute for me just like bro. I want I want to do like this
[04:16:11] This one-on-one competition with like, you know prize or whatever I obviously don't give a shit about
[04:16:20] You know the prize money or anything, but I think it's like good
[04:16:25] Booping and also I think it's like a good
[04:16:29] Good way to put me out there. That's not
[04:16:31] Expressly political because like all my content is politics, right? Right, but here. I'm just here to have
[04:16:41] I got this on I also just have more confidence
[04:16:47] I mean you play a little game
[04:16:48] I never really seen Hudson do
[04:16:50] He's not bad, he's not bad
[04:16:51] He's a lefty
[04:16:53] He's a lefty
[04:16:54] Bro you can't score again
[04:16:55] He's a good one
[04:16:56] Oh you bet on this game?
[04:16:57] Yeah mine is 6 to 5
[04:16:58] He's open, he's taking it
[04:17:00] Bro you gotta guard that Hudson
[04:17:01] You gotta step up
[04:17:02] Another another
[04:17:03] Dude he reminds me of like a 1960s power forward
[04:17:06] 5, 1
[04:17:07] Oh the clock
[04:17:09] I play like a
[04:17:09] I play
[04:17:10] Six, what is that game point?
[04:17:13] It's got struck.
[04:17:16] Yeah, that was a big shot.
[04:17:18] Oh, my goodness.
[04:17:18] Oh, what is going on?
[04:17:20] I can use my left to.
[04:17:22] I can use my left as well.
[04:17:23] So that was it was yeah, seven one, right?
[04:17:25] That was my first game.
[04:17:27] But then the real one, but the real.
[04:17:30] Yeah, let me see you play somebody black.
[04:17:32] Oh, no, this is going to put a black American up there.
[04:17:34] OK, well, let's see.
[04:17:37] I'm just letting you know.
[04:17:38] Because I just dominate the heartland.
[04:17:39] Let's see if you could dominate the streets, you know, it's coming.
[04:17:43] I want to see it. Oh, OK.
[04:17:45] You have to play my charity event that I did.
[04:17:47] Tommy had to shoot a three-pointer, if not finals.
[04:17:50] Yes, sir. You came to my charity event that I did.
[04:17:53] Tommy had to shoot a three-pointer base.
[04:17:55] You taught him how to play it.
[04:17:56] So this is this teacher versus the student.
[04:17:58] I guess the only thing I have not be OK.
[04:18:03] I do I do want to I do want to.
[04:18:06] Yes
[04:18:13] The caveat is actually Chris plays very differently now than he did
[04:18:19] He's a better shooter than me. He's faster than me. He's better on D. It's gonna be tough. Okay. Let's see what happens
[04:18:28] Yeah, he just for this great basketball content. He's taking this very seriously. He's getting the player perspectives
[04:18:36] Well, I don't know son had such a dominant performance and Chris almost didn't make it here
[04:18:41] Yeah, they might back down Chris. It will be a song
[04:18:55] He's already doing better than he predicted he would give me another one. I thought it was gonna be a
[04:19:06] He's actually got most of his points off the check.
[04:19:13] It looks good.
[04:19:16] He is that one.
[04:19:18] My goodness.
[04:19:19] One dribble full.
[04:19:20] One dribble full.
[04:19:21] Oh my god.
[04:19:22] The crowd is stunned.
[04:19:23] We're all screwed.
[04:19:24] What is that right here?
[04:19:26] I see this guy playing in the 101 DPS.
[04:19:29] God, the crowd is, I see this guy playing in the one on one stuff all the time too.
[04:19:37] Yeah, he's a fucking demon, but he was like a D1 player or something.
[04:19:41] What's his name?
[04:19:42] He was actually, I think at Frigga.
[04:19:43] So he was actually, I think he was D3, but he's much better as a player now than he
[04:19:49] was in college.
[04:19:50] Okay.
[04:19:51] Yeah.
[04:19:52] Cause he like never stopped playing.
[04:19:53] And I think in COVID he started popping off.
[04:19:54] He is a, he is a demon.
[04:19:56] Here's one of the best players of played against I would say Jw2, but like he definitely free. Yeah
[04:20:12] Banks scoffed him three banks ain't nothing
[04:20:17] So I mean what happened to this man after this like wait so so so this was all drawn out
[04:20:24] So Chris went from this point on into a training arc that other people have informed me is
[04:20:33] So insane right that he went back to his roots like he
[04:20:38] He did like a Naruto style training arc and he plays he's like when be out there now
[04:20:42] He's like doing he's doing logo threes. He's shooting like half court
[04:20:47] Half-core shots making him at like creator games that they've been doing and he basically
[04:20:51] he's been demanding a rematch. No, stop. But I can't cause I keep getting injured. I keep
[04:20:57] getting fatter and fatter. I haven't like played it also. I feel like it's not, it's not going
[04:21:02] to be like a, like a good enough game for him. But my point is, uh, he literally, since
[04:21:10] that, since that, like a couple months after that, he hit me up and was like, yo, when
[04:21:14] are we, when are we playing again? When I'm playing again, we almost had one. Uh,
[04:21:18] We almost had a rematch, but I was traveling too much,
[04:21:21] and I've just been ducking him.
[04:21:23] Okay.
[04:21:23] And now, now he is just insanely good.
[04:21:29] Okay, but you're also gonna keep ducking him.
[04:21:32] No rematch, no, no, no, don't duck him.
[04:21:35] Look into the camera, no rematch.
[04:21:37] No, no, no.
[04:21:37] You had your chance?
[04:21:38] No, you had your chance.
[04:21:41] I love Chris, he's the man.
[04:21:42] I'm sure he's a great guy,
[04:21:44] but you gotta ask yourself this question.
[04:21:47] He's what good does it do for you to go out now?
[04:21:51] Respect respect to him. Well, just you you doing it right now. You're admitting that
[04:21:55] No, he's such a sweetheart. I will I will I will one day when I'm confident
[04:22:03] I will one day you waited too long for the rematch. This is gonna be like Tyson versus Paul. Yeah, that's crazy
[04:22:12] Paul is in this situation, well, you're definitely definitely Jay Paul
[04:22:17] But but you got a one.
[04:22:19] You definitely Jay Paul in this situation.
[04:22:22] So look at this thing. Zero.
[04:22:26] Oh, God, you're not tripping at all.
[04:22:28] No, he's a stay hard. He's a.
[04:22:30] He's also let's be real.
[04:22:32] So all right, what were the rules in this with this three dribbles?
[04:22:35] Was this my was there any so this was no no.
[04:22:37] OK, so unlimited.
[04:22:38] So he chose to play a perimeter game that allowed you to kind of
[04:22:43] Cause he couldn't like took a couple of dribbles that was a putting up a lot of three points
[04:22:47] in even in the past game and even when I was like warming up.
[04:22:50] So he did, he, he did undermine my, my outside game.
[04:22:54] How far did you go to turn it?
[04:22:56] Um, after, well, after this, I don't forget what point I got to, but I played against
[04:23:02] uh, the guy who got second place after this.
[04:23:04] And I, of course, or yeah, I played against a J Dubb and he cooked me.
[04:23:08] Hey, let's see if you get that 10 K.
[04:23:10] Yes, he after this.
[04:23:11] Oh, that's a shot.
[04:23:12] You're in.
[04:23:13] Oh, you've got time.
[04:23:14] Chris, don't feel bad.
[04:23:16] Oh, man, it's just like, it's not making me feel better.
[04:23:19] Ah, Jato starts off 2-0.
[04:23:22] 6, 6, 6, 7, 8.
[04:23:24] Oh, wow.
[04:23:25] But I was like, you know, I got my hand on him, you know?
[04:23:28] And he's letting me, he's letting me.
[04:23:31] How do you feel right now?
[04:23:32] Yeah, he's proud, bro.
[04:23:34] Chris, stop.
[04:23:36] You got to hit one.
[04:23:38] Just hit one for us, please.
[04:23:39] Yeah.
[04:23:40] So coming off of a upset about the one.
[04:23:46] There it is.
[04:23:47] There it is.
[04:23:48] That's my job to switch out.
[04:23:50] That's insane.
[04:23:51] So once we have a thousand things you like, oh, that's a bad.
[04:23:54] No, he doesn't know that one back to back.
[04:23:57] I could have one there, too.
[04:23:58] I could have one there as well.
[04:23:59] That's crazy.
[04:24:00] What the fuck is going on, man?
[04:24:04] I'm just saying this, a lot of these guys,
[04:24:07] what's all these notifications?
[04:24:09] I'm just getting there's a there's a lot of people coming over later for Christmas Eve.
[04:24:16] So I just wanted to see if there was anything of anything that was serious family text messages.
[04:24:21] But it's fine. So oh, you having a I saw that you having a the family whole family.
[04:24:24] Yeah. Yeah.
[04:24:27] Don't let van Ladi streams all the time on a show tailgate.
[04:24:30] I set up his fucking shit.
[04:24:31] Who's that?
[04:24:32] I don't know.
[04:24:33] This person who's a 58 month subscriber named Moala.
[04:24:38] I have no idea what it is.
[04:24:39] Tailgate is a streaming show we stream on Saturday,
[04:24:42] but the streaming world is not anything that I know about.
[04:24:44] But that's like a I don't count is the YouTube live account as streaming.
[04:24:49] We're doing a live show on the same.
[04:24:51] I guess I guess that counts.
[04:24:52] But as far as the streaming world of yo, W's in the chat.
[04:24:56] Yo, Subbo, give me a don't know when all of that stuff.
[04:24:59] I don't know that much about that.
[04:25:00] I just see other people.
[04:25:00] All right. So now that we saw my highlights, let's see.
[04:25:03] Let's see one of yours.
[04:25:05] What is this?
[04:25:06] Oh, shit.
[04:25:07] You hear about this was this was like
[04:25:12] I remember this.
[04:25:14] I remember this because this was
[04:25:17] I think it was like
[04:25:19] like you were you were one of the first in mainstream media to just like straight up be like, this is ridiculous.
[04:25:24] Yeah. Yeah. But it was early on in this whole thing.
[04:25:29] He hadn't like arrived at his final form yet. Right.
[04:25:31] And he was doing the like, I'm Maga, I think, or like he was well, remember, he had like
[04:25:39] had a moment at a concert somewhere where he talked about the fact that he loved President
[04:25:45] Trump and he did all that stuff, but like I was in the office one time and Harvey called
[04:25:50] me over to his desk and he shows me that he had gone out to Calabasas and met with
[04:25:56] Kanye West.
[04:25:57] And I was like, why?
[04:25:58] And so then I came to office, I came to work this morning
[04:26:01] a little while after that and I get to work.
[04:26:04] And when I'm coming in, Harvey goes Kanye West is coming here today.
[04:26:08] I like the bullshit. No, why the fuck?
[04:26:11] Why would Kanye West come to TMZ and legitimately?
[04:26:15] Twenty minutes later, he shows up with Candice Owens.
[04:26:19] Yep. I was about to say Candice Owens was there as well.
[04:26:21] I was laboring for 400 years for 400 years.
[04:26:24] That sounds like a choice.
[04:26:26] Like you was there for 400 years and it's all of y'all.
[04:26:30] I think what you're doing right now is actually
[04:26:32] the absence of thought.
[04:26:34] And the reason why I feel like that is because Kanye,
[04:26:37] you're entitled to your opinion.
[04:26:39] You're entitled to believe whatever you want.
[04:26:41] But there is fact and real world, real life consequence
[04:26:45] behind everything that you just said.
[04:26:48] While you are making music and being an artist
[04:26:52] and living the life that you've earned
[04:26:54] by being a genius, the rest of us in society
[04:26:57] have to deal with these threats to our lives.
[04:26:59] We have to deal with the marginalization
[04:27:01] that has come from the 400 years of slavery
[04:27:04] that you said, but our people was a choice.
[04:27:08] Frankly, I'm disappointed, I'm appalled,
[04:27:11] and brother, I am unbelievably hurt
[04:27:15] by the fact that you have morphed into something,
[04:27:18] to me, that's not real.
[04:27:20] But look how much weight I'm getting what the hell is going on.
[04:27:24] Wait, what?
[04:27:25] No, you what are you talking about?
[04:27:26] But look, but look, this was this was crazy shit.
[04:27:29] By the way, this is cut up.
[04:27:30] There's other stuff in there that Kylie said that day that TMZ took out.
[04:27:34] I think they leaked it later, right?
[04:27:36] Or they tried to leak it later.
[04:27:37] I'm pretty sure.
[04:27:38] Kylie went on a Hitler thing here.
[04:27:40] Yeah.
[04:27:41] Yeah.
[04:27:42] I'm pretty sure I saw this.
[04:27:43] So I'm pretty sure I saw that or or maybe heard about it because I had friends that
[04:27:47] were working at TMZ, including your former producer.
[04:27:51] Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and it was really, oh, the full length version is right here.
[04:28:00] It was really interesting about that.
[04:28:01] Is that I have some, I have a little bit of insider, uh, information on this.
[04:28:07] Cause like he was doing the Hitler stuff with Candace Owens far before it became
[04:28:13] know and publicly that he was doing like the
[04:28:16] the
[04:28:17] Like that he was doing the Hitler pivot. Oh, he was at the office. Yeah, and this will happen
[04:28:22] So let me tell you exactly what was said so I think I think the first time I heard about it was when he went to
[04:28:27] When he went to Africa, I think and it was like with big Sean. So the he says
[04:28:33] Before this so he was up there going crazy for a long time. He goes. I love he goes. I love
[04:28:39] love, uh, he goes, everyone.
[04:28:42] And then he goes, I love everyone.
[04:28:43] Then he goes, I love Hitler.
[04:28:45] And there was a producer there named Evan Rosenblum and Evan went,
[04:28:51] yo, that I, that offends me, right?
[04:28:55] Yeah.
[04:28:56] So whatever we get back to the office, the rest of the office is just
[04:29:00] transfixed silent when people have no idea what it's like for a celebrity
[04:29:06] of that magnitude to walk into a place like TMZ.
[04:29:08] Because remember, Chatters, you're thinking about Kaya in today's understanding of what
[04:29:14] he represents now.
[04:29:16] This is when he's like, this is, like if you think people are still saying, but he made
[04:29:21] graduation like two years ago, three years ago, this was fucking in 2018.
[04:29:26] Yeah, he had just come off of tour and all of this stuff going on.
[04:29:30] He is the biggest thing in the world.
[04:29:32] He is moving culture.
[04:29:33] He is moving tennis shoes.
[04:29:34] He is moving everything.
[04:29:36] Now, this also is sort of at not the very beginning, but we're not as deep into Trumpism as we
[04:29:44] are now.
[04:29:45] Yeah.
[04:29:46] So as far as celebrities or well-known figures who have aligned themselves with the MAGA
[04:29:51] Trumpism movement, he was a bellwether.
[04:29:54] Yeah.
[04:29:55] And think about it this way.
[04:29:56] This is 2018, right?
[04:29:58] That's at this point, eight years ago.
[04:30:04] And 10 years prior to that, like this is, he's close enough to the George Bush doesn't care
[04:30:10] about black people Kanye.
[04:30:12] So like people are still, people are still thinking like, no, he's, this is not, you
[04:30:17] know, this doesn't, this doesn't make any sense.
[04:30:19] Yeah.
[04:30:20] I mean, not only the George Bush moment, because that moment in itself, you know, I'm from
[04:30:25] South Louisiana.
[04:30:26] So I was watching that with Hurricane Katrina was in my backyard.
[04:30:30] Like I'm in, I'm still at home at that point.
[04:30:33] But Kanye's music because of the intellectualism of he has a great tribe.
[04:30:40] Kanye still has great people.
[04:30:42] He has people like GLC, like that have been around him for a long time.
[04:30:46] His mother was a brilliant woman, brilliant woman, everybody that you will talk to that's
[04:30:51] around Kanye will tell you about how he was poured into by people that told him
[04:30:55] all about the world and stuff.
[04:30:57] So earlier on in his career, really all the way up through till things got a little
[04:31:01] be commercial. Kanye wasn't just rapping. He was rapping about the state of the world
[04:31:05] and the condition of blackness and all of that stuff.
[04:31:07] Yeah. Yeah. So then this is like a, like a big,
[04:31:11] Oh, like a huge pivot. Yeah.
[04:31:14] Big pivot in a way that like doesn't really make any sense. Um, but I do, I still think
[04:31:20] that like the person who, I mean, obviously he takes ownership over this, right? Like,
[04:31:26] of course it's not, I'm not like, uh, saying, oh, it's like mental illness. There's
[04:31:30] plenty of people who have issues, right? Like mental health complications that don't turn
[04:31:35] into being pro Hitler or whatever. But I think if there is one person that you can point to
[04:31:40] that, that led him down this pipeline, I still think it's Candace Owens.
[04:31:45] Interesting. I think Candace Owens played a big role in this because she was the only
[04:31:51] person I can think of in his orbit that was already there.
[04:31:59] She was doing the white supremacist commentary as a black woman as a professional career
[04:32:08] at that point.
[04:32:09] She was two years into it.
[04:32:10] The only thing I would say is that I think she and a lot of other people most recently
[04:32:18] before I mean, you know, there's he has the entire cauldron of right leaning figures.
[04:32:25] He's got modeling in monopolies.
[04:32:27] He had Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens all kinds of people.
[04:32:29] Yeah, but this was before Fuentes way before way before like way before.
[04:32:33] But right here, he put her on now.
[04:32:36] So Candace Owens.
[04:32:38] So Kanye was doing his free thought thing, right?
[04:32:41] Candace Owens was at some event somewhere.
[04:32:44] Maybe it was for, I don't know if she was with T P.
[04:32:47] let's say at that point or like, what was the first group that she was with?
[04:32:51] And there were a black lives matter matter protesters that were there.
[04:32:56] And they stood up and they challenged her and she said, Hey,
[04:33:00] these people are reacting emotionally and all that Kanye then put that out.
[04:33:05] He tweeted that and said, I like the way this person thinks.
[04:33:09] Yeah.
[04:33:09] So he had been on that a little bit before she got there,
[04:33:11] but I do think that what she helped do was crystallize and then
[04:33:15] distilled for him a worldview that was grounded in whatever conservative ideals
[04:33:20] she thinks are important.
[04:33:22] All right.
[04:33:22] Let's take a look at the extended edition here, please.
[04:33:26] Two days before I was in the hospital, I was on opioids.
[04:33:31] I was addicted to opioids.
[04:33:33] I had plastic surgery because I was trying to look good for y'all.
[04:33:37] I got liposuction because I didn't want y'all to call me fat.
[04:33:41] like y'all called Rob at the wedding and made him fly home before me and Kim got married.
[04:33:46] I don't want y'all to call me fat so I got liposuction, right?
[04:33:49] And they gave me opioids, right?
[04:33:52] And I started taking two of them and then driving to work.
[04:33:56] Look, look, look, look, look, look, look who's in the back.
[04:33:57] That's Charlie Kirk.
[04:33:58] Look who's in the back.
[04:33:59] I'm so excited.
[04:34:00] You guys see his fucking gummy ass grin even behind that fucking phone.
[04:34:05] That is Charlie Kirk.
[04:34:06] Now here's the deal.
[04:34:08] It took somebody, it took somebody for like a couple of weeks ago, someone goes, you've
[04:34:15] met Charlie Kirk before and I go, no, I haven't.
[04:34:18] Oh, you had forgotten.
[04:34:19] I did not in any way remember that he was there.
[04:34:25] Yeah.
[04:34:26] Her, this was still kind of early on her.
[04:34:28] She was kind of buzzing and Brent like, oh, there was, I did not remember in any way
[04:34:34] that he was, and I'm on the phone with somebody from TMZ.
[04:34:37] Then he came to the office and I'm like what when it's like he was with Candace
[04:34:42] It wasn't just Candace. It was Charlie Kirk as well
[04:34:44] This is one that he was my main number one off because we would we would debate at this thing called politicon
[04:34:50] Oh, I've heard and the second time I debated him at political. He was wearing the the Kanye the Yeezys
[04:34:57] Like under a suit as a as a flex is at that point. It was like have we heard anything from Kanye West about Charlie Kirk?
[04:35:05] You know what no, we haven't I don't think we have no which is
[04:35:10] Really interesting the only thing I've heard from yay is
[04:35:15] the the insane
[04:35:18] Very weird video that he did with that one like
[04:35:22] Orthodox rabbi saw that where he was like apologizing to all Jews or something
[04:35:27] It was such a strange fucking video
[04:35:29] deal. Yeah. It was the most like Kanye way to do, to, to manage that, that conversation.
[04:35:34] Right. Because if you wanted to actually atone, there's a normal sensible way to come on.
[04:35:40] I'm sorry. But he would do it in the most Kanye way that you would do something like
[04:35:45] that. Yeah. Rabbi Pinto, yeah. Who also has like, interestingly enough, also as a litany
[04:35:51] of strange associations as well from the Israel side. So there's some additional strangers on
[04:36:00] his background as well that I dove into. But anyway, let's get back to Charlie Laker.
[04:36:07] Then my boy, and I'd always ask my boy, you know, to hand me if it's, you know, we're
[04:36:15] on tour, give me some weed, blah, blah, blah. So he had to go give me the opioids. And
[04:36:18] It was talks amongst my camp like yay's popping gays popping pills right so when he handed to me
[04:36:24] This to me say you know, this is used to kill genius
[04:36:27] Right, so I didn't take it two days later. I'm in the hospital
[04:36:31] I was taking two pills a day at that time when I left the hospital. How many pills you think I was given?
[04:36:39] seven I
[04:36:40] Went from taking two pills to taking seven
[04:36:44] That he always is like, whether intentionally or
[04:36:49] unintentionally great comedic timing, he was like, that reminds me of when he was like,
[04:36:54] I had a doctor.
[04:36:55] I won't say, I won't say what kind of doctor.
[04:36:59] He was Jewish.
[04:37:00] Yeah.
[04:37:01] Here's the thing.
[04:37:03] Kanye and Trump are the same guy.
[04:37:07] They eat like the fact that Kanye is legitimately charismatic, legitimately funny, legitimately
[04:37:13] commands in Rome. I mean, Trump doesn't have one iota of the artistic genius that Kanye
[04:37:18] had. But Kanye and Trump, the way this, when y'all are watching this, don't pay attention
[04:37:24] to everything like to what he's saying. You could if you wanted to, but it's like,
[04:37:29] ghibly gosh, pay attention to the legitimate trance that he has the office in. He said
[04:37:37] a couple of things in this. After a while, I'm really feeling like, yo, y'all dead ass right
[04:37:42] You just gonna like say all of this stuff nobody gonna say nothing. Well, I mean
[04:37:46] There's a lot of white liberals in that room
[04:37:48] And they're not gonna not as many liberals as you would think are in that room right now, okay?
[04:37:52] So the reason why I did not why drop those sweets and everything cuz I was drugged the fuck out bro
[04:38:01] And I'm not drugged out this these pills that they want me to take three of a day
[04:38:05] I take one a week maybe two a week y'all have me scared of myself of my vision
[04:38:11] So I took some pills so I wouldn't go to hospital and prove everyone right
[04:38:20] We are drugged out we are following other people's opinions
[04:38:26] We are controlled by the media and today it all changes you got to pop and linen and that hallway
[04:38:34] today. Today. For a second, I thought it was fucking. I was like, I did not see Lenin on
[04:38:40] the hallway. It's not the Lenin I was thinking about. We need to think how to think free.
[04:38:45] Yeah. I don't think Harvey is a big fan of Lenin. We need to be free thinkers. Then
[04:38:51] we need to learn how to feel free. People say feel free, but we don't even know how
[04:38:56] to feel free or think free. Say what you feel positive or negative. I just got
[04:39:02] off the phone with J Cole.
[04:39:04] He said, how do you feel when they said
[04:39:06] the Crips is gonna kill you?
[04:39:09] I said, man, that was the headline.
[04:39:12] But when they said,
[04:39:15] they wanted to beat me up,
[04:39:17] I said, that's great, they're my brothers,
[04:39:19] they love me.
[04:39:20] They don't want nothing to happen to you,
[04:39:21] they just want to beat some sense into me.
[04:39:24] I love dads, I love the Crips,
[04:39:26] I love the Bloods, I love everyone.
[04:39:29] How many people are feeling right?
[04:39:32] That's where he says I love Hitler.
[04:39:34] That's where he says I love Hitler.
[04:39:35] Okay, so even like, like, I love everyone.
[04:39:38] Cut.
[04:39:39] That's what I love everyone.
[04:39:41] How many people cut?
[04:39:43] I love Hitler.
[04:39:45] That is like, it says right there in the office.
[04:39:49] Say right there in the office.
[04:39:50] Look at Harvey's face.
[04:39:53] But you know, I will say this about Harvey.
[04:39:55] And I don't know this.
[04:39:57] I can't I don't know whether or not Harvey was loving this or whether or not they were
[04:40:05] legitimately like Harvey Charles on TMZ Live.
[04:40:08] Like what do we do?
[04:40:09] Yeah.
[04:40:10] Like what do you do?
[04:40:11] Like he is up there to give an interview to them and then he turns around and starts
[04:40:15] addressing the room.
[04:40:17] Yeah.
[04:40:18] Well, our feeling how many people felt something that I said today raise a hand if you felt
[04:40:24] That's something I said today.
[04:40:28] Candace, oh my God.
[04:40:29] Charlie's not raising his hand.
[04:40:31] Charlie doesn't, Charlie not fucking with it.
[04:40:33] Yeah, no, because he's too busy uploading the video
[04:40:35] being like, oh, kind of what, it's total domination
[04:40:37] of lip-tarts in the media at TMZ.
[04:40:40] Is that simple?
[04:40:41] Do you feel that I'm feeling?
[04:40:42] Dude, do you feel that I'm being free
[04:40:44] and I'm thinking free?
[04:40:47] Yes.
[04:40:49] I actually don't think you're thinking anything.
[04:40:52] I think what you're doing right now
[04:40:54] actually the absence of thought and the reason why I feel like that is because Kanye you're
[04:40:59] entitled to your opinion you're entitled to believe whatever you want but there is fact
[04:41:03] and real world real life consequence behind everything that you just said and while you
[04:41:10] are making music and being an artist and living a life that you've earned by being
[04:41:15] a genius the rest of us in society have to deal with these threats to our lives.
[04:41:20] Oh, you mean you and Kanye.
[04:41:22] Yeah, why look like we could?
[04:41:24] I'm still I was still rocking a part at that time.
[04:41:26] Excuse the deal with the marginalization
[04:41:29] has come from the 400 years of slavery that you said.
[04:41:33] But our people was a choice every day.
[04:41:36] We have to walk into that truth while you choose to say things
[04:41:40] that to be honest with you, dog are nonsensical.
[04:41:43] You want to think freely.
[04:41:45] That's fine.
[04:41:45] I'll come back your free thought with my free thought
[04:41:48] Because mine is grounded in the reality that I've been giving and the reality that I'm going to change, but I'm not going to do it.
[04:41:56] He did not like that.
[04:41:58] Well, so this is what happens when I get soup.
[04:42:01] So Timmy gave me a little favor.
[04:42:04] I am rambling here, but I'm, you got this gonna sound so, this is gonna sound so lame.
[04:42:11] Y'all, I was so hurt.
[04:42:13] And let me tell you why I was so hurt in this moment right here.
[04:42:17] This is
[04:42:18] This is me
[04:42:20] Channeling a whole bunch of emotions in real time number one. I'm legitimately hurt Kanye West was
[04:42:28] The not just the biggest rapper in my life. He was my cultural mascot. Mm-hmm
[04:42:33] Well, he'll pop a lot of times Baton Rouge
[04:42:36] You listen to the rap and you hear little messages in the rap and it's like, you know, if you ain't slaying it dope
[04:42:42] If you ain't thugging you ain't shit and you like goddamn. I'm not saying that selling dope
[04:42:47] I'm not thugging then a guy comes along who's college dropout who's rapping about things that
[04:42:53] You can get to a little bit more. It's got soul in this music. He kind of
[04:42:58] Was somebody that I related to and identify with by the time I get to TMZ though
[04:43:02] It's like 2011 and so by that point is the Kanye Kim era
[04:43:07] So all of the decade before that Kanye was working and doing all of that stuff.
[04:43:11] He's a different type of celebrity now and the office is taking shots all the time.
[04:43:15] I'm defending him all the time.
[04:43:18] I'm defending everything that Kanye West does all the time.
[04:43:22] So I'm thinking two things.
[04:43:24] Number one, you're dick-riding a little bit.
[04:43:26] I'm dick-riding.
[04:43:27] I'm dick-riding big time.
[04:43:29] Number one, and by the time he gets here, two things are happening.
[04:43:33] Number one, I'm legitimately emotionally hurt by how he's acting number two
[04:43:39] This motherfucker is embarrassing me
[04:43:41] He's embarrassing me in front of all of these fucking white people in here
[04:43:46] And you're talking some Hitler slavery didn't exist all of that. I'm looking around a day day into it
[04:43:52] I'm embarrassed and I'm emotionally hurt
[04:43:56] I'm trying to find what do I say to let everybody in this room know that they
[04:44:02] say, can't say the shit that he's saying. I mean, you can say it, but that none of that
[04:44:07] is what we believe. So I'm in real time trying to decode my brain while he's doing what he's
[04:44:13] doing right now.
[04:44:14] Yeah, no, I, yeah, it's, it also gives white people the permission to, to lean into the
[04:44:25] the things that they already kind of believe about whatever Kanye saying here.
[04:44:33] So then it also, it also undermines progress in that regard as well.
[04:44:37] And I think you identified that though, you were like talking about how you're out of
[04:44:41] touch like you can be sheltered from the violence that these words invoke but regular
[04:44:47] people can't like regular black people can't.
[04:44:50] So it's like-
[04:44:51] So when I was at TMZ, you know, you watch Adam Sandler movies, right?
[04:44:55] Oh, yeah. I mean, not my, he's not like, I'm not the biggest fan of Adam Sandler, but I liked the, what was it?
[04:45:01] The 500 first days. That was fine.
[04:45:04] That's the one that you go to?
[04:45:05] No, which one's the one where he was like really rich?
[04:45:08] I really liked that one.
[04:45:09] So about Mr. Deeds?
[04:45:10] Mr. Deeds.
[04:45:11] So you don't feel with the water boy, Billy Madison?
[04:45:14] No, I didn't grow up here. I grew up in Turkey.
[04:45:15] Oh, you grew up in Turkey?
[04:45:16] Yeah, so there's a...
[04:45:17] So was it like a Turkish Adam Sandler?
[04:45:19] Not really. No. Yeah. What was the comedy in Turkey? What was it? There's a guy named
[04:45:24] Jimmy Lamont's. Oh, I do love, but I do love American comics. It just wasn't Adam Sandler
[04:45:29] for me. All right. So Larry David, I love Larry David. Okay. All right. I, the only
[04:45:35] thing I would say about like my opinion shifting is, is probably on Dave Chappelle.
[04:45:41] Dave Chappelle. I fucking idolized Dave Chappelle so much, like so much. Right.
[04:45:48] So Adam Sandler puts all of his friends in the movies.
[04:45:54] I know y'all know that.
[04:45:55] Oh, I know that too.
[04:45:56] Yeah.
[04:45:57] All right.
[04:45:58] One of Adam Sandler's friends, the guy with the dark hair, I can't remember his name.
[04:46:01] TMZ got a video when you talk about giving white people permission to say something.
[04:46:05] And this is kind of, and this is not me necessarily shitting on my time at TMZ.
[04:46:12] Was it Rob Schneider?
[04:46:13] No, not Rob Schneider.
[04:46:14] It was the other guy.
[04:46:15] But this was like one of his friends.
[04:46:17] Like I can't even remember the guy's name.
[04:46:19] Like my time at TMZ was fine.
[04:46:21] I had made a lot of friends, learned a lot, the whole nine.
[04:46:24] I'm not too good for TMZ, the whole nine,
[04:46:26] not doing any of that.
[04:46:27] But I will say this.
[04:46:29] So they get one of Adam Sandler's friends
[04:46:31] saying the N-word, like on camera,
[04:46:33] or he gets like arrested for it or something like that.
[04:46:35] What, he got arrested for saying the N-word?
[04:46:37] He got arrested.
[04:46:39] He was in like a hotel in Santa Monica
[04:46:41] and he was drunk and then he was,
[04:46:43] he didn't get arrested for saying the N-word.
[04:46:45] He was like, he had a hotel in Santa Monica.
[04:46:47] He was drunk.
[04:46:48] He said something.
[04:46:49] And part of the thing was he said the N word.
[04:46:50] Okay. So TMZ gets him on camera.
[04:46:52] He's leaving, right?
[04:46:53] Maybe he's, he might even be like walking away from court
[04:46:56] and he's talking about the thing.
[04:46:57] He says, should night told me I could say the N word.
[04:47:00] He says, should night, cause you know,
[04:47:04] he's hanging around in Hollywood and stuff like that.
[04:47:06] He says, should night told me I could say the N word.
[04:47:08] So what's this?
[04:47:10] TMZ gets should night.
[04:47:12] We get should night and we ask should night.
[04:47:14] We say, hey, so-and-so whatever this guy's name
[04:47:17] was, I can't remember his name.
[04:47:18] He goes, so-and-so said that you said
[04:47:21] that he could say the n-word.
[04:47:22] She goes, yeah, I ain't got no problem with it.
[04:47:25] She says to me, nigga, that means more to me
[04:47:30] than African-American.
[04:47:32] Like nigga is more, that means black,
[04:47:34] more to me than African-American.
[04:47:35] We have the video.
[04:47:36] TMZ runs a poll on the website.
[04:47:38] Oh, it's like.
[04:47:41] a poll on the website.
[04:47:45] The poll is, what is the term that should be used
[04:47:49] for African-American, for black,
[04:47:52] nigga or African-American?
[04:47:54] If I'm lying, I'm flying, do the Google right now.
[04:47:56] If I'm lying, I'm flying, do the Google right now.
[04:47:59] I come back to work on Monday.
[04:48:02] I'm like, yo, I'm not in Friday.
[04:48:04] I'm not in Friday when they publish the weekend
[04:48:07] and the polls and stuff.
[04:48:07] I come back, I'm like, Monday,
[04:48:09] Are you fucking kidding me?
[04:48:11] Like what the hell is going on?
[04:48:13] And after years and years and years of that of fighting them
[04:48:17] battles inside the office, yeah, this numbskull comes in there and says
[04:48:23] that we are partly look, right?
[04:48:27] I seriously asking how to refer to black people refer to black
[04:48:30] people as African American or niggas.
[04:48:32] That's a real story.
[04:48:34] Now, that's a real story.
[04:48:38] So I'm in the office tripping, doing this for years and years and years, right?
[04:48:43] And then Kanye walks into the office and says that black people are complicit in their own
[04:48:48] slavery.
[04:48:49] I'm like, y'all, stall me out.
[04:48:50] What you're doing?
[04:48:51] I've, um, I've had, do you know who the signifier is?
[04:48:57] Of course.
[04:48:58] So I've had many conversations with him about, uh, brightness.
[04:49:02] Brilliant.
[04:49:03] Yeah.
[04:49:04] He's the man.
[04:49:05] Yeah.
[04:49:06] About whiteness.
[04:49:07] And he always says that that's not the case and the the last two years is the only time.
[04:49:14] Okay, it's it's 330.
[04:49:18] Oh, it's it's it's the holidays.
[04:49:20] Okay.
[04:49:20] It's the only the only time where I've
[04:49:24] here here.
[04:49:25] That's what I'm talking about.
[04:49:26] For me and you're you're going to swig off the bottle.
[04:49:29] Yeah, man.
[04:49:29] Come on now.
[04:49:30] If we're going to talk about the community,
[04:49:32] you got to get some of the community in your mouth.
[04:49:35] I mean, sure.
[04:49:36] There you go. But cheers. Cheers.
[04:49:40] Think responsibly, everybody. Have your holidays.
[04:49:45] But I've told him these in a fire like I got the point that he was making.
[04:49:50] Oh, God, ethnic Santa is.
[04:49:52] Now I stopped dancing behind me.
[04:49:54] I did see that you got the black Santa. Yeah, this is a.
[04:49:57] Yeah, that's pandering. This is. No, no, no.
[04:50:01] My no, no, no, that's better.
[04:50:03] You got to do better.
[04:50:05] No, it's a tradition. It is. Yeah, I had my brother, but you to make this nigga dance for you. Yeah. Yeah. Look at him back there.
[04:50:14] Did he get a break? He got benefits. No, he gets no benefits. No, what happened is my brother went to Home Depot one year and they had run out of all the Santas and he was like, what is ethnic Santa?
[04:50:26] They had, they said ethnic Santa. They didn't say black Santa. Right. It was obviously not this black Santa, but different black Santa.
[04:50:34] But yeah, I had the ethnic Santa from Home Depot the first time I ever had Santa Claus
[04:50:40] behind me.
[04:50:41] Right.
[04:50:42] And then since then I sold.
[04:50:46] Now it's getting really racial for the IDF, but it wasn't the IDF for Israel.
[04:50:50] You did what?
[04:50:51] Immuno deficiency foundation.
[04:50:52] Oh, because he was such a pivotal victory.
[04:50:54] It was the D-State, bro.
[04:50:55] I knew this whole time, bro.
[04:50:56] Because it was such a pivotal.
[04:50:57] I knew it, bro.
[04:50:58] It was too good to be true, bro.
[04:50:59] It was too good to be true, bro.
[04:51:02] It was it was too good to be true.
[04:51:04] I'm digging my grave.
[04:51:05] GQ model socialist was too good to be true.
[04:51:08] I knew they sent you here.
[04:51:10] So we were we were fundraising for the Immunodeficiency Foundation and I and I I
[04:51:16] to to a fan, I sold a staple of the stream
[04:51:22] to fund raise for the Immunodeficiency Foundation.
[04:51:24] So we had to replace them.
[04:51:27] Do you have a backstory?
[04:51:29] No, aside from the fact that it was
[04:51:31] Like, have you, when I have something like that, I'll normally give that character a fictitious
[04:51:37] backstory. Oh, like, oh, no, I have not given him a fictitious backstory. I feel like it's just,
[04:51:42] you know, he's just ethnic Santa. But like, there's a reason why this Santa is in this house
[04:51:51] right now and not out delivering. I just don't. I feel like I'm a little too Caucasian to be
[04:51:56] making up stories about why Black man is dancing behind me. Well, I mean, you got
[04:52:00] I'm dancing so you need to give me a purpose.
[04:52:02] I feel like I don't want to give you too much.
[04:52:04] You got to dance and just give me something.
[04:52:05] I don't want to give him too much lower.
[04:52:06] But so in this entire deal, this is kind of the culmination.
[04:52:11] Yeah.
[04:52:12] Like Kanye is not just, I'm not just hurt, but like I'm legitimately embarrassed by Kanye.
[04:52:16] Like Kanye, I've been.
[04:52:18] Yeah.
[04:52:19] At some point.
[04:52:20] Yeah.
[04:52:21] Fighting whatever.
[04:52:22] Not, there was, I wasn't like a freedom fighter in the office.
[04:52:25] It wasn't that type of situation.
[04:52:26] I got along with a lot of my coworkers and my coworkers were fine people.
[04:52:29] In this situation, I'm like, don't come up here and say this shit in front of him.
[04:52:33] Yeah, no, I, I, so what I, the reason why I was talking about FD is because like I had been banned for calling someone a cracker ass bitch in the past.
[04:52:42] Okay.
[04:52:43] For anti white racism.
[04:52:44] Okay, yeah.
[04:52:45] Which was ridiculous.
[04:52:46] It was like, you know, you know how conservatives are.
[04:52:48] They were, you know, they were like, oh, so much outrageous guys, so racist, whatever.
[04:52:53] Right.
[04:52:54] So, and I can confidently say it now because it doesn't matter.
[04:52:56] And it was silly and everyone understands and recognizes it as silly back then but
[04:53:02] but basically
[04:53:05] For that reason I
[04:53:07] Was telling like I would always say like I'm white what the fuck are we talking about right and
[04:53:12] FD would always say you're not you're spicy like you're you're spicy white you're you're white adjacent and these past two years
[04:53:20] Because I am Muslim. I'm Turkish these past two years is the only time where people have called in the question
[04:53:25] Because when I talk about trans people, I'm a straight white, you know, heterosexual cisgender
[04:53:31] guy.
[04:53:32] No one actually goes, oh, you're biased.
[04:53:34] But when I talk about Israel, everyone's like, you're Muslim.
[04:53:37] That's why you're fucking terrorist.
[04:53:39] You're a terrorist.
[04:53:40] You're a terrorist.
[04:53:41] You're a terrorist.
[04:53:42] So like, yeah, I've been hounded so much with that, with the implicit bias that people
[04:53:46] come in that I had to, I was forced to concede the FD on that one where I was
[04:53:50] like, you were right.
[04:53:51] I understand why.
[04:53:52] I understand how white people perceive me when I talk about this kind of stuff as not like
[04:53:59] someone who has the capacity to be unbiased, even though I am unbiased, I'm anti-genocide,
[04:54:05] right?
[04:54:06] So whiteness is both like a phenotype, but it's also like an ethic, right?
[04:54:11] And like a kind of not an ethic, it's a set of values, right?
[04:54:16] The way I view whether or not, because like, growing up in Louisiana, there's not that
[04:54:21] much diversity, but if it was 1955 and I was walking to school and there was a group of
[04:54:29] white guys harassing me, if I would look at one of y'all and be like, what are you doing?
[04:54:37] Why are you with them?
[04:54:39] That to me defines whiteness.
[04:54:41] Like if you were with them, I'd have been like, y'all letting this guy run with y'all.
[04:54:45] Like, isn't he kind of, he looks to me like he's a little, there's some, there's
[04:54:49] some grit there.
[04:54:50] Yeah.
[04:54:51] would fit in with that group. You white. Now I don't really know that because, because
[04:54:55] white is very elusive because, because, because, I mean, I talk about this all the time. Yeah.
[04:55:00] Because like a lot of the people that I worked with that TMZ, uh, were Jewish brothers
[04:55:05] and sisters, and they would describe themselves as white. And they would, they would, Jason
[04:55:11] Jason told me to, to actually bring that up in the conversation where you were.
[04:55:15] Oh, okay. Yeah. They would, they would describe themselves as white people and I would
[04:55:19] like, Oh, but there's, I understand better now than I did then kind of the thing.
[04:55:25] But they would say, Hey, we're straight, white, we're straight, white.
[04:55:28] As a matter of fact, we had one guy that kind of gotten a little bit of
[04:55:31] trouble in the office for saying that there was a DNA link in some kind of
[04:55:34] way between, between Jewish people, even from all, from all around the
[04:55:39] globe, right, for worldwide jewelry.
[04:55:40] I don't think they liked that he said that.
[04:55:42] But so if you describe yourself as white, you're certainly white.
[04:55:45] Yeah.
[04:55:45] But typically, if you can pass and use the privilege of whiteness, you're probably right.
[04:55:53] Yeah. Then that's why I always say, because I think it's ridiculous if I were to run around,
[04:55:58] especially if you're in like peak, well, if I were to run around and be like, I'm PLC,
[04:56:01] I'd be like, fuck, I'm ridiculous. Like I'm right. I'm pasty as shit. And I do have that
[04:56:07] privilege and I recognize that I try to use it for good. But then you scratch the surface
[04:56:14] and then people go, actually, you're not a part of this in-group, and we will actually
[04:56:19] consistently attack you. But the point I was trying to make is that, like, that was when I,
[04:56:24] that, that is when I was forced to concede on that front, because it's like, you're only as white
[04:56:30] as white people see you. Right. Like, as a part of the in-group. And actually, this is something
[04:56:36] I talk about with respect to Jewish people in America quite a bit recently, because the
[04:56:41] The conversation on the right right now is whether or not Jews are still white and there
[04:56:46] is a conversation on the right right now is whether or not white people are still white.
[04:56:50] Well, well, there's that part of it because you have the Nick Fuentes, the Myra here.
[04:56:55] It is American.
[04:56:56] Yeah.
[04:56:57] There's the freshers.
[04:56:58] Yeah.
[04:56:59] But then there's also the other side of that story where like, you know, Nick Fuentes
[04:57:02] will on the one hand be like, I'm ethnic because my parents are, you know, one
[04:57:05] of my parents is Mexican.
[04:57:07] But then also on the other hand, he's like objectively a wife supremacist
[04:57:10] who said like miscegenation is akin to bestiality right so he's that person but then also on the
[04:57:16] other side they are arguing on whether or not jews should still be considered a part of the
[04:57:23] in-group in general because whiteness is a socio-political construct it's just defined on what it
[04:57:28] isn't and what it isn't is black it's proximity to blackness it's not about like uh it's not
[04:57:33] a definable trait beyond like even your skin color doesn't necessarily matter all that much i think
[04:57:38] think personally because Albanians are white as fuck, but they're Muslim, right? You see
[04:57:45] Albanian blonde blue eyes. You might think like that's a white person, but then you hear
[04:57:48] his name is like, you know, Obzurrahman or something. You're gonna be like, oh, that's
[04:57:52] not a white guy. So basically, it's expanded throughout the years. You know, Irish people
[04:57:59] first considered not white, then Italians even Italians, Polish people, Jews. And
[04:58:06] Then all of these groups are now firmly in the white camp.
[04:58:10] And I guess the last version of this, the last group to come into the white category
[04:58:14] is Hispanics, broadly as a term, right?
[04:58:19] And we saw that reflected in the voting patterns as well with people who were voting for Donald
[04:58:25] Trump and identifying with this whiteness.
[04:58:29] And now it's shrinking a little bit potentially.
[04:58:32] Well, now there's a course correction happening so America is the country where the concept of whiteness was perfected.
[04:58:42] Yeah.
[04:58:43] And so in these other countries that we have, like even the idea of the nation itself isn't that old, right?
[04:58:51] It's not that old of a thing.
[04:58:53] So national sort of separations and things like that exist in Europe.
[04:58:59] And you had cultural things.
[04:59:00] You had all these things that made them.
[04:59:01] But when you came to America, it didn't really matter as much
[04:59:05] if you had French heritage, Anglo heritage, if you had Irish heritage.
[04:59:10] After a while, it didn't in the beginning, but not in the beginning.
[04:59:13] It didn't then you became white.
[04:59:14] Well, because America was still perfecting the idea of whiteness,
[04:59:18] Whiteness, meaning the club that you have to fit into to be deserving of America's, America's abundance.
[04:59:26] Yeah. Like you are not the record of the earth. You are not the people that can't come into the club.
[04:59:31] Yeah. And that expanded and expanded and expanded. And part of the reason why it expanded
[04:59:36] is because different groups started having different levels of success in America. So
[04:59:41] if you become a rich Irishman, well, then you graduated to whiteness. If you become
[04:59:45] I'm a rich Italian and you graduated in order to like the Irish literally in order to be a part of that
[04:59:51] Straight up turned around and and became cops right
[04:59:55] Police for that reason they had to uh, sort of validate their existence in the country
[05:00:01] Yeah, the only thing the only people
[05:00:03] Who are never going to be a part of that construct?
[05:00:07] Are black people? Yeah black people are not going to be a part of that construct
[05:00:11] I knew people, I met a lady in San Antonio years ago and I asked her, uh, like, you know,
[05:00:17] what her ethnicity was and she said, I'm Spanish. I was like, oh, so, you know,
[05:00:21] lots of Mexican people in Texas. She goes, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not Mexican.
[05:00:24] She's like, I'm Spanish. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like these European European,
[05:00:29] like I'm European, like I'm Spanish. I'm like, oh, I'm starting to understand that.
[05:00:32] But there's racial culture, all these things. But blackness is really defined as that really
[05:00:36] defined. Whiteness is really defined and the central question of America in a lot of ways is who is
[05:00:43] allowed to be white. And how that expands. It used to be that that question was asked with an
[05:00:50] expansionist attitude. Like who do we lay into the club, the smoky rooms, the guards, all of that.
[05:00:55] Now they're going, too many people came in. We're trying to shrink it now. And even amongst
[05:01:00] the white people, the question becomes now, are you a heritage American? How far can you
[05:01:06] trace your lineage back.
[05:01:07] The crazy thing with that argument, I'll put a pin in it after that is
[05:01:11] no one, no white person that I know and hang out with, not one of them can
[05:01:16] trace their lineage in this country as far back as I can.
[05:01:21] Yeah, not one of them.
[05:01:23] Not one white person I know can kill.
[05:01:25] I can, we go back, back, back, back all the way back.
[05:01:30] Like a lot of my people were here before the country was founded.
[05:01:34] So it's a weird dynamic to establish if it has any intellectual consistency.
[05:01:40] Yeah, it's like the Trump versus AOC equation. AOC's family from Puerto Rico has had deeper
[05:01:46] roots to the American mainland than Donald Trump has. Donald Trump is what? Two generations
[05:01:52] removed from being in Germany. But if you ask people, Donald Trump is white, he's the
[05:01:57] president. Of course he's a heritage American, he's a legacy American. Whereas AOC, well,
[05:02:02] She's brown, she's Latina, so obviously she's less American than Donald Trump is.
[05:02:07] And that is the attitude, because it's still, I think, in the same way that people have evolved
[05:02:13] away from saying the N-word and instead say thug or whatever, you know?
[05:02:19] This is an evolution of, instead of representing why supremacist values openly, as the permission
[05:02:27] structure has shrunk.
[05:02:30] It's a way to reinforce that same exact dynamic without actually saying it, but it also comes
[05:02:35] back to the same thing.
[05:02:36] And yes, you're absolutely right.
[05:02:37] Obviously, as I talk about all the time, whiteness is defined by what it's not.
[05:02:42] And what it's not is black.
[05:02:44] It's about proximity to blackness.
[05:02:45] It's just the one drop rule.
[05:02:46] It's like, there's a reason why nobody thinks Obama is another white president.
[05:02:51] They say Obama's the first black president.
[05:02:54] And that's because Obama is half black.
[05:02:58] This is, this is some of the stuff that I love about Dr. King because Dr. King has become
[05:03:04] this, uh, Gentile Jesus figure that America has the whitewash version of the whitewash
[05:03:11] version.
[05:03:12] Right.
[05:03:13] That America has used to, to extol the virtues of whatever.
[05:03:18] But Dr. King was a genius and he was direct in his criticism of America, direct in his
[05:03:24] criticism of America economically, socially and politically.
[05:03:28] Even when you look at, uh, people would ask Dr.
[05:03:32] King, there's one clip where he talks about the Homestead Act and the millions
[05:03:37] and millions of land, the acres of land that were given to white peasants, uh,
[05:03:41] to settle so that America can expand during manifest destiny.
[05:03:46] When you just suppose that with the conversation around reparations or the
[05:03:52] conversation around what black people are owed for their time of
[05:03:56] disenfranchisement, disenfranchisement and enslavement in the country.
[05:04:00] It's always such an interesting conversation because you have, on the
[05:04:05] one hand, you have people saying, well, you know, we weren't allowed to
[05:04:08] participate in the economy for hundreds of years.
[05:04:11] And then for a year, for time after that, we, everything that we got
[05:04:15] was taken from us.
[05:04:16] And they go, well, we should just give you anything for that.
[05:04:18] And then Dr.
[05:04:19] King went, well, you did. You gave white peasants millions and millions and millions
[05:04:26] of acres of land to settle the land. And you also gave them what was under the land and
[05:04:31] on top of the land and all that wealth. And also beyond that, white people do get reparations
[05:04:37] absolutely for slavery for slavery. So white people are the only people in America that
[05:04:41] got reparations for slavery. Black people never got it. Even though it was promised
[05:04:44] 40 acres in a mule, uh, white people were given reparations for the loss of,
[05:04:49] of, uh, you know, the loss of commodities to, to refer to people in that way.
[05:04:54] So the critique is actually deeper.
[05:04:56] The critique is this or the observation when you get deeper into it is it makes
[05:05:04] sense to give, and this is the operating system of America.
[05:05:09] It makes sense to give millions and millions of acres of land to white
[05:05:14] people because we believe in whiteness so deeply that we know they're going to
[05:05:17] turn it into something beautiful.
[05:05:19] It doesn't matter what you give what has happened to black people.
[05:05:25] We don't want a nigga having shit and it doesn't matter if it's old.
[05:05:30] It doesn't matter if it should happen.
[05:05:32] It doesn't matter what went on.
[05:05:35] There's no amount of anything that, uh, denotes investment into black people,
[05:05:41] black America or anything, because they're here to be under the thumb of American whiteness.
[05:05:45] Yeah. There's also the other side of this as well, where she's like the, not that it's the main
[05:05:51] point, but white supremacy is such a powerful motivator. It's such a powerful galvanizing factor
[05:05:58] that it actually ends up causing white people to advocate against their own best interests.
[05:06:03] Certainly. And that is the side of this equation that a lot of people don't understand.
[05:06:08] Lee Atwater famously in the Ava DuVernay documentary, she highlighted this, had talked
[05:06:14] about how the anti-welfare programs were actually, the anti-welfare programs and the advocacy
[05:06:21] against anti-welfare was actually a concept of anti-blackness that white people got on
[05:06:26] board with.
[05:06:28] There is this difference in opinion that I have with some other people though.
[05:06:32] I do think that people in positions of power that don't want to have any welfare
[05:06:37] whatsoever for the working poor whether they're white or black will utilize the divisive but
[05:06:44] very successful technique of saying well black people are taking advantage of it in an effort
[05:06:48] to get poor white people on board to advocate against their own best interest well I think
[05:06:53] is a tactic I think it's a very direct I mean that's on the southern part of America chose
[05:06:59] It shows poverty. Yeah. Exactly. When confronted with
[05:07:06] even Obamacare, they show like the southern part of America, they chose poverty rather
[05:07:12] than, you know, community or shared or investment in the data. I say, all like even Obamacare,
[05:07:18] like there was what 20 red states that had denied expanding Obamacare at the time.
[05:07:26] The real reason why was because they didn't want, like the real reason was still obviously
[05:07:32] deregulatory, it was still at the behest of private insurance, but the way that they sold
[05:07:37] it was Obamacare is bad because Obama is doing it and it's black people, Obama phone,
[05:07:44] like all the other Obama cars, all of that stuff.
[05:07:47] The way to make people turn on something that could benefit them is to play to their
[05:07:53] inherent bias and the American dogma of who should be winning in this country.
[05:07:59] The moment telling you, man, the moment somebody starts to come up,
[05:08:03] that's not the chosen group of the country.
[05:08:06] The people that wield the power go, look what's happening.
[05:08:09] Look what's happening.
[05:08:11] All your ancestors were on the Mayflower and these people came over here
[05:08:15] from Africa in a drop top six foe 1984 and they're taking all the jobs.
[05:08:20] Yeah.
[05:08:20] They're taking all the jobs.
[05:08:21] They came up from the border, right?
[05:08:24] And they're taking all the jobs.
[05:08:25] Like the, the stuff that was meant for you is now going to them.
[05:08:30] Help us stop it.
[05:08:31] Don't worry about the fact that you're going to fall off the subsidy cliff.
[05:08:35] Right.
[05:08:36] You're not going to be able to go to the doctor.
[05:08:39] Yes.
[05:08:39] You know, pray the president.
[05:08:40] I mean, look at how you look at how white people live in like West Virginia.
[05:08:44] You know, there's no, the county, worst county in the whole.
[05:08:47] There's no fucking access to health care whatsoever.
[05:08:49] like rural hospitals are pulled out completely. They got their drop shipping healthcare from
[05:08:56] organizations that normally work in like underprivileged parts of the world like Africa,
[05:09:00] where they go to West Virginia and open up dentist care, dental care in a fucking stadium.
[05:09:06] Like they have philanthropic organizations working inside of the wealthiest nation on the planet
[05:09:10] where a fuck ton of white people live, right? And people still don't get it. People still
[05:09:14] don't understand it. And they still lean into the racial narratives where they think like,
[05:09:20] oh, the undocumented migrants are actually stealing from me. It's a very, it's a very successful
[05:09:26] method. And I don't know how to really tackle it, but I guess-
[05:09:32] I mean, I mean, there's, you know, you continue to have the conversation with America. You're
[05:09:37] having a good faith and you have it bold and you have it bravely. That's all you can really
[05:09:40] do. What I don't want people to do is to live their whole lives wrapped up and who tells them that
[05:09:46] they're not human. You can't do that. What you do is you go out, you build solidarity, you build
[05:09:51] family, you build friends, you build networks, you go out there and you get what you've got to
[05:09:55] get. I got a question for you, a really important question about this whole thing.
[05:10:00] How many times would you estimate in your life that you set the inward?
[05:10:03] Give me a number I have no idea like this is okay. So when I let's say I'll tell you I'll tell you my I'll tell you my story about this
[05:10:13] Okay, I don't know if I've ever talked about this on on stream before I probably have I probably have in the past so
[05:10:19] The chat me in my chat chat out in the chat. Oh, they're saying they're saying he has numbers in the chat
[05:10:26] It's more than you would think
[05:10:29] Let me explain right so
[05:10:31] Growing up in Turkey, I was obviously fascinated with American culture, which is
[05:10:42] Okay, you want to know what the no, no, it's even lame other than that.
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