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02-06-2026 · 6h 02m

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[00:07:00] So, that's it for this video, I hope you enjoyed it, I'll see you in the next one, bye!
[00:09:00] You
[00:11:00] in 2021, have to see international declared dismal
[00:11:03] in the outside regime.
[00:11:04] Don't fucking stop me.
[00:11:05] While I'm fucking, you can burn innocent.
[00:11:08] The Shafi scene.
[00:11:09] Bad to give you a fucking Josie Green.
[00:11:11] You don't care.
[00:11:12] Don't care, don't care, don't care.
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[00:11:21] Don't care.
[00:11:22] And you will understand, perhaps, what I'm trying to
[00:11:24] try this time.
[00:11:25] I am being patronizing.
[00:11:27] I don't know who the fuck you are,
[00:11:28] And you're over here chirping all the way from fucking London
[00:11:30] about you want a fucking free pedestal
[00:11:32] but also simultaneously you're talking about
[00:11:34] both sides are fucking fine
[00:11:35] shut the fuck up you don't know anything
[00:11:36] okay?
[00:11:37] Who the fuck is this pink hair twink?
[00:11:39] Chubby
[00:11:40] Chubby chubby chubby
[00:11:42] Chubby chubby
[00:11:43] Chubby chubby chubby
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[00:11:46] It's mostly apartheid
[00:11:47] So what would you like anything else that he's on?
[00:11:50] I...
[00:11:52] Do you not understand the English language?
[00:11:54] BAM
[00:11:55] What's going on everybody?
[00:11:57] I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon, pre-noon, no matter where you
[00:12:00] are in the world. I'm a son, Piker and this does and I'm broadcast coming to you live
[00:12:04] from a cold, not very sunny, but instead very cold, a New York, New York folks were live
[00:12:14] and alive. And I hope all the boys, girls and MBS are having a fantastic one because
[00:12:17] today's a beautiful day. Today is a wonderful day. Today is a very special day. Now for
[00:12:22] those of you who are wondering why it's a special day. It's a very special day.
[00:12:27] every single week. That's right. Um, but because I'm dual streaming on YouTube as well, I'm
[00:12:33] not going to be doing the thing that I usually do because I don't want to get hit with a
[00:12:39] copyright. But it is Friday. So, um, I know on ceremonious, I just don't want to get
[00:12:52] my live broadcast on youtube dinged for no reason i know everyone is gonna freak the fuck out also
[00:12:58] welcome welcome welcome to the youtube audience as well this is how much care and consideration i
[00:13:03] have for you there's so much love i have for you i uh didn't actually i didn't actually end up uh
[00:13:10] brought like promoting that i was live streaming on youtube as well but we're here it's friday
[00:13:17] then Saturday Sunday hmm okay yeah Mufasa imagine if I'm if I'm doing Mufasa
[00:13:25] like think about it as though I'm doing the Mufasa
[00:13:30] um but uh yeah it is ladies and gentlemen it's Friday February 6th
[00:13:37] Friday February 6th 2026 we're live we're alive and I hope everyone's having a fantastic one
[00:13:46] I am a little tired, a little out of place, feeling a little, I want to say under the
[00:13:56] weather but feeling a little all over the place if we're being real if we're keeping
[00:13:59] it at buck fifty but the vibes are going to be immaculate regardless, the vibes are
[00:14:06] going to be immaculate regardless as they always are because it is a freaking, it's
[00:14:14] is freaking Friday. Anyway, Thamaceous, thank you for the playlist. Yeah, we got a lot going
[00:14:22] on today. We're going to be talking about all of it. But before I do that, it's the
[00:14:25] personal news part of the broadcast is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my
[00:14:29] personal news about what's going on in the world of a son house and I'll be pikering
[00:14:32] between the time period where I press the stop streaming button and press the
[00:14:35] start streaming button. So help me God, that's precisely what I'm going to do. Yes,
[00:14:39] I use, I read the YouTube chat as well for the chatters who are asking.
[00:14:46] In any case, it's Friday.
[00:14:52] Last night I ended the broadcast and basically passed out instantly and then you might have
[00:14:57] noticed from my Twitter activity woke up at like 4am, started posting on Twitter at
[00:15:03] like around 4am, 5am.
[00:15:06] And then tried to go back to sleep, ended up sleeping a little bit at approximately six.
[00:15:14] So I got like, you know, Apache ass sleep situation here, not doing great. Yes. New Jersey,
[00:15:22] 11 Congress races. Obviously another thing that we're going to be talking about today.
[00:15:26] Should have put that in the, should have put that in the title. Actually, I'm going
[00:15:32] put that in the title is there is a
[00:15:43] for the left upset W for the left will do that too.
[00:15:47] I was following that race from afar following the New Jersey 11 race from afar and it's
[00:16:04] been a fantastic thing to watch.
[00:16:07] incredible to see.
[00:16:17] We'll talk about the A-Pack Defeat and the W for the left, the left W.
[00:16:24] What is this from the goat?
[00:16:27] Oh, the new J. Cole album.
[00:16:31] Yeah, in any case.
[00:16:35] Is any supposed to be homes is a YouTube chatter?
[00:16:37] No.
[00:16:38] Um, love from Brooklyn have the reason anti trans laws and kids be covered.
[00:16:47] Sorry was gone a couple past days since those got passed and I'm unsure no had they have
[00:16:50] not been covered.
[00:16:53] Anyway YouTube chat remember to like the broadcast on YouTube um so that it gets
[00:17:03] a better. It gets a, uh, it's better placement in the Algo. Um, in any case, in any case,
[00:17:16] uh, what was I going to say? What was I saying? Where was I? What was I talking about? Oh,
[00:17:23] yeah, personal news wise, I went to sleep woke up, shot an episode of I've had it
[00:17:28] Alongside Austin and then on top of that shot an episode of your end with Jennifer and brace belt and hold on
[00:17:35] I got room service real quick
[00:17:58] I need so much more frigging coffee I'ma be honest.
[00:18:28] fucking coffees yet two cold brews and two cappuccinos and I'm drinking another
[00:18:31] coffee right now brother I need all that caffeine okay how else will I survive
[00:18:37] how else will I continue
[00:18:51] anyway do you think twitch regrets pushing you to dual streaming I don't
[00:18:56] think they think about me at all I'll be honest with you I don't think I got
[00:19:00] motion like that twin hello everybody hello every hello every I can finally
[00:19:04] watch a stream of that Wi-Fi says ha probably $49 goddamn that's a lot of
[00:19:10] cookies on YouTube chat okay so folks ask clav for some crystal meth yeah
[00:19:18] that's what I need I need some freaking crystal meth to keep me going
[00:19:26] If you need to res go for it, okay, I'll just I'll just keep the stream on and I'll go to sleep behind me
[00:19:38] Do you think Trump will get in trouble for the video? No, he won't because he never gets in trouble for anything
[00:19:43] I don't think he'll get in trouble for this. I mean, he's just he's a racist. We all know he's racist, bro
[00:19:48] He's not even getting in trouble for being
[00:19:51] dick deep inside of
[00:19:53] of Epstein. But my doctor told me today I have two high cholesterol, although I'm vegetarian
[00:20:10] is that because I drink too much French-based coffee, did you know that? Does coffee include
[00:20:15] It spike your cholesterol because if that's the case, I'm friggin
[00:20:23] You know
[00:20:31] I'm I'm cooked. I don't think that's how that works
[00:20:35] Anyway, um ladies and gentlemen hold on. Let me blast off real quickly. Yeah, we shot
[00:20:40] We shot another banger episode of the fear and podcast. It was incredible
[00:20:45] okay absolutely incredible episode of the furan podcast with the great brace
[00:20:54] Belvin and also miss Welch very stoked for you guys to watch that but
[00:21:04] counterbounds with cigarettes I need crack cocaine that's what I need I really
[00:21:12] I've gotten about shit like that. I was like, yeah, the race is gonna post race shit. Thank you liberals for saying staying in appropriate level of our age.
[00:21:23] Yeah. Um, do we have a chat? Do we have a, uh, a blast off meme? Do we have a blast off meme chat?
[00:21:38] chat because if we do I would like to use it Christian expose you in Austin
[00:21:45] gonna link with Merrill while you're there I did link with Merrill you wore
[00:21:55] that shirt three days ago yeah I'm on a fucking extended trip dick your bench
[00:22:04] numbers are a meme. Okay, we'll use this lemon one. By the way, lemon heads are uniting all
[00:22:17] around the internet today. Lemon heads are uniting all around the internet today. Why
[00:22:26] are you in New York City and not at the majority report usual? Because I have to fucking,
[00:22:31] I have a slammed jam-packed slammed ass situation here, okay?
[00:22:43] When is Felix coming on?
[00:22:44] Dude, what the fuck are you doing?
[00:22:45] Okay, guys.
[00:22:48] All in due time.
[00:22:49] Okay, please.
[00:22:50] Oh my God, you guys are fucking cooking my ass for all this shit.
[00:22:53] No one's going to be on today.
[00:22:56] Felix probably on tomorrow.
[00:22:59] How much you weigh in kilograms?
[00:23:00] I don't know, like 109?
[00:23:08] Okay.
[00:23:10] I'm talking to Don Lemon today over the internet.
[00:23:13] I have Noah Cole when coming on today.
[00:23:16] Uh, he'll be talking about his trip to both, uh, Columbia and Cuba,
[00:23:21] as well as some other stuff.
[00:23:23] Uh, I have, um, I'm in, I'm talking to Zoran and his team about
[00:23:30] seeing if we can fit him in to a
[00:23:35] Collabo
[00:23:36] Because I want to build off of the momentum that he currently has for a lot of the left flank candidates all around the country
[00:23:44] I have Clair Valdez
[00:23:47] that I will be
[00:23:49] linking up with as well most likely tomorrow and
[00:23:53] I have the DSA slate on
[00:23:58] Sunday I
[00:23:59] I will be talking to the entire DSA slate where we'll be speed running through all the candidates on Sunday
[00:24:07] that are all running in, you know, state assembly, New York local office positions.
[00:24:13] And also on top of that, what else do I have? I have Mahmood Khalil on, I have Mahmood Khalil
[00:24:25] on Monday.
[00:24:29] Okay. There's a lot happening.
[00:24:38] There's a lot happening in the Hassanabi broadcast.
[00:24:41] As you guys know, when I'm out here, it's pretty fucking hectic.
[00:24:46] Okay.
[00:24:49] Here it is. How will you survive this week? Damn.
[00:24:53] I don't fucking know because as soon as I come back to Los Angeles,
[00:24:58] I'm spending a couple of days in LA and then immediately flying like one or two days in LA and then immediately flying to
[00:25:06] University of British Columbia, Canada, my first time in Canada.
[00:25:15] I'm not doing Trevor Noah's podcast this time. We could have scheduled it and I was, I wanted to schedule Z-Way and I wanted to schedule Trevor Noah while I was here.
[00:25:24] We didn't have enough time to schedule both of those podcasts.
[00:25:28] Okay. So.
[00:25:35] Yeah, god damn dude. I'm freaking dying.
[00:25:49] A University of British Columbia northern line collab. I mean I hit him up balls in his court at this point.
[00:25:55] but he hasn't, uh, we've talked briefly.
[00:26:05] We talked briefly about me visiting, but, uh, but I don't know, uh,
[00:26:11] if we, uh, we'll end up linking up while I'm out there, but balls in his court,
[00:26:17] but I don't want to fucking pressure him. I'm not going to keep,
[00:26:20] I'm not going to keep like, uh, harassing him to link up. You know what I
[00:26:24] What do you mean?
[00:26:35] They did not clean this hotel room while I was gone this morning, so I'm a little bit cooked.
[00:26:42] Northern Line doesn't really collab. I mean, I wasn't even talking about collabing with them. I was just saying like if you want to pull up.
[00:26:54] Also, he does collab. He collabs with the Yard Boys all the time. I just don't think he fucks with me like that, but it is what it is.
[00:27:10] Jake Lang's Monk Shot. Oh hell yeah.
[00:27:13] Putin episode coming up is a hotel room nah it's my is my brownstone this is my
[00:27:29] brownstone that I bought
[00:27:36] Elizabeth Ban political post essentially disabling PVP for thousands of
[00:27:40] unmitigated schizophrenics and now the place feels like thumbing through
[00:27:42] leather brown books in a Carnegie library. Yeah, it's been, I've heard, I don't really
[00:27:53] go on LSF, but I might go back on LSF now that they fucking banned politics, because
[00:27:58] it was used like a, it was used basically like a sleeve to, to engage in fuck Hassan
[00:28:08] campaigns and like smear campaigns against the left position in general in a not so subtle way,
[00:28:14] even though it was
[00:28:23] you got an assistant, huh? What are you talking about?
[00:28:28] It's really interesting because it was almost entirely occupied by people who would
[00:28:35] play up this notion that I was actually the one brigading it or something even
[00:28:39] though it was just like a fuck-huss on flashlight and it's very funny it's very
[00:28:49] funny that they all of the people that were in it they said ban politics not
[00:28:55] political streamers though they're still gonna use it to shit on you yeah that's
[00:28:58] fine but now that they've banned politics now that they've banned politics
[00:29:04] That means that they're not gonna be like
[00:29:07] Hassan said this thing that we are taking out of context so we can make a much larger deal out of it and manufacture
[00:29:13] Outrage surrounding it. You know what I mean?
[00:29:16] Yo tutus my word fam. You should have went to Toronto my youth. I'll be in I'll be in Toronto at a certain point
[00:29:23] Don't worry
[00:29:25] I mean, it greatly limits the amount of focus on posts they could be posting because they
[00:29:42] were using that a million times over.
[00:29:46] So shouts out to RIP to STAIL, STAIL 2000, RIP to DGGs like Massive Sophisticated, I
[00:29:56] will admit Sophisticated smear operation that they were running out of LSF.
[00:30:07] I'm in New York City all weekend, yes chatter.
[00:30:10] I'll be here until, uh, Monday.
[00:30:17] Um, damn, the last of song posts was six days ago.
[00:30:21] Yeah.
[00:30:21] Because they banned politics.
[00:30:24] They still upload posts about me on there, but they just delete those posts.
[00:30:29] So the, the last bastion, um, the last bastion of focus on content
[00:30:39] will be just on Twitter, the platform or a heat.
[00:30:49] You need to stop mentioning Northern line on streamchatters watch lot or like
[00:30:52] both immediately go to stream and spam and bother him about it.
[00:30:55] We're collabing with you.
[00:30:55] So fucking annoying.
[00:30:56] Yeah, don't do that.
[00:30:57] Chatters that is annoying.
[00:31:01] Um,
[00:31:07] anyway, where was I?
[00:31:08] I noticed less haters coming in here. That's why. Oh, that's true. I'll miss the haters. RIP to my haters
[00:31:19] More was I what was I saying? Oh, yeah, we blasted off. Let's get started
[00:31:28] Going to cover on a Lillia may have possibly winning a dem primary New Jersey. Yes
[00:31:32] Of course, I'm gonna be talking about that. There was a massive primary night upset that took place last night
[00:31:38] And it's once again going into the bracket of going into my bracket specifically of the left position is alive and well.
[00:31:50] Yes, Austin ox told me about it, but I can't be everywhere all at once.
[00:32:05] Um, so, you know, I hope you guys understand. I'm a one human being. I know it comes across like that's not the case
[00:32:14] But I'm a single human being and I can't be everywhere all at once
[00:32:19] especially because
[00:32:22] Especially because when I'm
[00:32:25] Uh, what do you call it when I'm in uh
[00:32:29] When I'm flying to like clutter or when I'm flying to new york
[00:32:34] I'm I'm bringing myself and all of my equipment with me. I'm bringing March with me. It's uh
[00:32:41] It's it's quite difficult
[00:32:46] Okay, I
[00:32:48] Think some people expect me to operate like I have a whole team
[00:32:52] There's like a bunch of clones of Hassan Habib piker out there that are lying all around the world
[00:32:58] I'm still reading YouTube chat as well. Don't forget we're dual streaming both on YouTube and also on Twitch
[00:33:20] But yeah, this is this is a fantastic primary victory for me. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to win this but I'm going to be able to win this.
[00:33:26] Fantastic primary victory for Anna Lillia
[00:33:30] Meja and it's a big fuck you to a pack and I'm very excited to talk about that
[00:33:39] So we will be talking about what is this
[00:33:41] Yes, I'm not super attracted this person, but when am I gonna meet someone you want to check all your boxes
[00:33:47] But you didn't have the chemistry you didn't have the attraction all but you had the chemistry. Yeah, it's it's unspeakable
[00:33:52] Sometimes it's unspeakable like for example a son has been into me for quite some time and I'm just like a son
[00:33:57] There's just no chemistry
[00:33:59] the fuck
[00:34:01] The fuck's this motherfucker talking about wait a yo what?
[00:34:06] Excuse me
[00:34:08] You know what I mean, I'm like, yeah, we're just never gonna happen for us. Sure. You know what I mean here
[00:34:12] I told him I said you're just not my type and and despite how close we are as friends
[00:34:17] I said it's not gonna happen
[00:34:18] It's never gonna happen. Yeah, as much as Christian think about that
[00:34:22] I mean Christian almost spilled his coffee all over me. He's he's really
[00:34:27] Sort of he's really secure in himself
[00:34:29] But I and and I think he sometimes he gets a little upset as I said a son. It's not gonna happen
[00:34:34] Yeah, I mean, it's not gonna happen. He has a man. He has a man
[00:34:37] So he's telling his son. He's not saying no no no no. He's no no he's not he confronts a son about it
[00:34:44] He says a son
[00:34:46] You know so anyway Christians more my type than Austin so I think this is a
[00:34:52] moment of jealousy from Austin because he knows he knows me and Christian got a
[00:34:58] little thing going on on the side so that's probably what it is a little
[00:35:07] little gay sex on the side
[00:35:16] Yeah. A pack coping over the results. Oh, hell yeah. I love that. All right. First, first
[00:35:24] we'll do incredibly racist Donald Trump. Guys, guys, this might come as a surprise to all
[00:35:34] of you as we are all Donald Trump supporters. Obviously, we are all Donald Trump. Donald
[00:35:44] Trump posts some untrue social Donald Trump posted on something John Trump posted some
[00:35:50] untrue social and that and the thing he posted was a little racist. Okay. Just a little bit,
[00:35:55] you know, and it's obviously unexpected because there's people who voted for Donald Trump. We
[00:35:59] all know we voted for him because he's the least racist guy out there. Right. I mean,
[00:36:06] this is the least racist American probably like every American's a little racist and
[00:36:10] And Donald Trump certainly is probably the least race out of all of them.
[00:36:15] But it was a reshare on his true social that featured the Obamas.
[00:36:21] Let's take a look.
[00:36:23] Yeah, quite the storm.
[00:36:25] Actually, you know what?
[00:36:27] Let's watch the full thing first.
[00:36:31] Okay, I'm worried that this is going to get me copy struck on YouTube, but so I'm
[00:36:40] I'm going to pause it every now and then, you know what? I'm going to just like, but
[00:36:48] you get the picture. Yeah, that's the video. You got all of these, all of these Democrats.
[00:37:05] You have all of these Democrats being depicted as animals in the jungle.
[00:37:12] And the video vary just right off the jump.
[00:37:19] Right off the fucking jump, the video is cocked and loaded, fires off with Michelle and Barack
[00:37:27] Obama, both being depicted as apes.
[00:37:34] AI slop as always as expected. And then the video basically the video shows Hakeem Jeffries
[00:37:44] is a chinchilla. And then Donald Trump as a lion. Donald Trump is a lion. There's a
[00:37:53] little Pepe, a little Trump Pepe on the left corner here. I don't know who this pig is.
[00:38:04] Who is this pig supposed to be?
[00:38:06] Meerkat, not a chinchilla.
[00:38:08] Sorry.
[00:38:17] I'm sorry.
[00:38:18] And I don't mean this in some racist fashion at all.
[00:38:22] But this is the most Indian slop I've ever seen.
[00:38:27] Okay.
[00:38:28] He is posting like an Indian onk on WhatsApp.
[00:38:31] like this is literally like and I don't mean this in like a racial way at all
[00:38:39] I just mean like I have pres I have depicted myself in an AI video as a
[00:38:44] lion and all of my enemies as various different animals that are living under
[00:38:50] my kingdom I feel like this is the most like it's it's brandedization through
[00:38:59] through okay but this type of posting I have only encountered on Twitter from
[00:39:09] some of the greatest posters of all time Indian unks on on WhatsApp this is like
[00:39:18] this is this goes hard on the group chat for Bangladesh young's you know that
[00:39:26] that this is daisy posting through and through the depiction of
[00:39:34] like the depiction of yourself as this towering being
[00:39:41] as a lion most commonly I see on that side of the internet and I respect it.
[00:39:49] I think it's good posting. This is a bad version of that.
[00:39:52] Okay, this dark woke shit gotta stop. Okay, first of all, maybe my Indian unks and odds
[00:39:59] are all right if this is what you're calling Indian unks lop. This is not like a, like
[00:40:05] I'm not doing the Kyle Kalinsky adjacent shit. Okay. Like you can point to, you can point
[00:40:18] to Indian activities, you know, South Asian activities on the internet without it being
[00:40:25] directly racialized.
[00:40:28] Yes, this features is Pakistanis to, you know, don't fucking eat my ass on this.
[00:40:38] In any case, if this was Indian slop, there'd be a Xi Jinping being eaten by lion Trump.
[00:40:46] Yes.
[00:40:47] I was going to say, as is the case of, as is the case with many American retooling of
[00:40:55] much more advanced versions of this kind of slop, this is a much worse version of it.
[00:41:04] Because if this was being posted on the WhatsApp circles by Daisy uncles, there would definitely
[00:41:11] be a moment where the lion eats the enemies that are depicted as weaker, more feeble versions
[00:41:18] of animals.
[00:41:21] And because this is the Americanized version, unfortunately we were not able to emulate the
[00:41:27] cultural product of a million WhatsApp uncles.
[00:41:39] And once again, our variant of American nationalism is but a mere shadow of the original product.
[00:41:50] Having said that, that's not the point of contention here.
[00:41:52] I don't think anyone other than myself will be covering how not as good as the original
[00:42:00] variant of this type of posting this looks like because obviously understandably every
[00:42:04] person is talking about this element of it, which is insanely fucking racist.
[00:42:09] Also someone informed me that this was Olivia Giuliana.
[00:42:12] That makes it much funnier for me, because why the fuck do you even care about what Olivia
[00:42:20] Giuliana is doing or saying? For the record, what Trump posed was another video entirely,
[00:42:25] and it swiped briefly to the beginning of this video for a split second before swiping back.
[00:42:29] I'm guessing he didn't even screen-recorded himself, probably just reposted someone
[00:42:33] else's thing and didn't bother to watch it to lian lamal
[00:42:41] trump posted a video from truth social oh this is the og video you posted
[00:42:45] trump posted a video true social claiming vote counting stopped in key swing states before
[00:42:48] biden surges comparing it to venezuela in the final seconds baracka michelle obama depicted as
[00:42:53] monkeys initiated by a court order the michigan investigation team obtained forensic access
[00:43:00] as to a DS 200 tabulator, the machine that counts of hoax. A talent for G wireless chip
[00:43:06] man. The story gets, the story gets even funnier. Okay. Does this video feature AI slop of Harry
[00:43:13] Sasan though? I need to know. There's got to be a Harry Sasan mentioned in here. So
[00:43:19] this is the OG video. Oh, there is. Yep. There it is. That's my goat. Okay. Okay.
[00:43:28] class. Your maga schizophrenic uncle made this video and shared it with everybody. And let
[00:43:39] me tell you, this is, uh, excellent. Harry Sussan as a flamingo fanning the lion Donald
[00:43:48] Trump with a Pepe Donald Trump laying in the lap of the lion Donald Trump that is laying
[00:43:55] on a hammock with mere cat, Hakeem Jeffries. Okay, whoopie Goldberg is a hippo. All the
[00:44:06] animals are bowing down to the lion Donald Trump, which weirdly looks like an amalgamation
[00:44:12] of Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu kind of, or maybe even a little bit of Joe Biden.
[00:44:18] The AI really bricked on the Trump face. I don't know what kind of inputs they added
[00:44:22] into this. But I do feel like the Donald Trump face does not necessarily look like Donald
[00:44:29] Trump all that much. It looks like it could be a combination of Joe branded and Benjamin
[00:44:34] Netanyahu at times.
[00:44:39] But in any case, the original video or the video that Trump posted was this one about
[00:44:45] this video from the patriot news outlet.com about how the Democrats stole the election
[00:44:51] from him. But of course, because some fucking boomer was a screen recording this video, instead
[00:44:58] of downloading it, apparently at the end of the screen recording, there's a brief snapshot
[00:45:04] of Barack and Michelle Obama depicted as apes. Let's take a look at the OG video that
[00:45:13] was reposted or re-truth it on the Trump truth social page. Now, initiated by a
[00:45:19] court order, the Michigan investigation team obtained forensic access to a DS-200 tabulator,
[00:45:26] the machine that counts the votes. A tele 4G wireless chip manufactured in Taiwan was discovered
[00:45:32] embedded into the motherboard. The voting machine tapes clearly indicate modem engagement and
[00:45:38] transmission of election data. Some of the anomalies that we noticed in the 2020 general
[00:45:46] elections, that five key states all stopped counting at the
[00:45:50] certain time in these key value ground states. These were all
[00:45:53] where the software, the mini machines, the SNS machines were
[00:45:57] used, the smart medical gyms software. So when the vote
[00:46:01] stopped counting, and this has been noted in other countries as
[00:46:05] well, President Trump was significantly ahead. When
[00:46:08] reporting and counting resumed was a massive spike occurred
[00:46:13] that that's a good job on that's fucking hilarious. Like the fact
[00:46:31] that there is this like brief swipe up of this video that that
[00:46:35] was a man shows the intro of Michelle and Barack Obama, the video, the AI slot video
[00:46:44] of Michelle and Barack Obama, the video that we just watched, the full video that we just
[00:46:48] watched adds a whole another layer to this fucking story.
[00:46:55] Now it's one of those crude versions of non permissible unfiltered racism that I like
[00:47:04] talking about all the time as the, you know, as I have a PhD in racism, as you guys know,
[00:47:11] this is a big no-no. That's a big no-no. That's like, you can call black people thugs and
[00:47:18] then argue till the ends of time on whether or not it's a substitute for the N word, which
[00:47:22] Republicans love doing all the time. But a depiction of famous black people as apes
[00:47:29] or monkeys is very unfiltered the type of racism that everybody understands exactly what's going on.
[00:47:39] Right? There's not really a lot of plausible deniability there. It's basically the equivalent
[00:47:46] of saying the n-word. So for that reason, even prominent Republicans came out and were saying,
[00:47:56] this is the most racist thing I've ever seen. Now I find that really funny that this is it.
[00:48:04] It also came between Trump honoring these black icons in quest to restore the nation,
[00:48:09] because as you guys know, you may not know this, but it is Black History Month.
[00:48:15] So that adds a little bit more insult to injury. But let's take a look at the European
[00:48:21] and coverage on the story so far today and with it with good reason when we're not now showing
[00:48:26] the image that was posted on the president's true social account at 11 45 last night we did show
[00:48:34] it earlier because at that point it had not been deleted from the account it was up for a good
[00:48:40] 12 hours it's an image as you say which is deeply offensive it shows Barack and Michelle
[00:48:48] Michelle Obama depicted as apes. Uh, it came at the end of a video, uh, that was posted
[00:48:54] on, on, uh, the president's true social account, which was a video about alleged electoral, electoral
[00:49:00] fraud, uh, during the 2020 election. The video seems to be a screen recording, uh, which
[00:49:06] then flips onto this, this video.
[00:49:09] They spent the past two years normalizing genocide, the past week normalizing pedophilia.
[00:49:13] And now they're going to try to normalize explicit anti black racism. Yeah. They're
[00:49:16] just like leveling up or if you consider it kind of like leveling down because anti-black
[00:49:23] racism has become more sophisticated throughout time as gains have been made in terms of like
[00:49:29] civil rights and whatnot and anti-blackness is embedded into every orifice of American culture
[00:49:36] and that's the reason why the thug equation that I previously mentioned exists to begin with
[00:49:44] You can't straight up say the n-word when referencing a black person, so you say different
[00:49:50] terms like urban, thug, things of that nature. That's a byproduct of like the, I guess,
[00:49:57] modicum of cultural gains that black people have fought long and hard for, but that doesn't
[00:50:04] mean that anti-blackness has gone away. It's just become more invisible, right?
[00:50:09] And it's really interesting to watch this, this, this, or ghetto is another substitute term as well.
[00:50:21] This is weird though, because most Republican senators have not come out and condemned this.
[00:50:24] They don't condemn what he said about Somalis or when ICE kills people, but this is a step too far, I guess.
[00:50:28] Yes, because of what I've talked about. This is boundary breaking.
[00:50:33] breaking. Okay? You're no longer talking about like individual black people as low IQ over
[00:50:40] and over again, which is something that Trump loves doing. You're now directly depicting
[00:50:44] Barack and Michelle Obama as apes. That is for the most racist Americans, okay? For
[00:50:51] the most racist like normie Americans, even that's a bridge too far. It's the equivalent.
[00:50:57] It is the equivalent of saying the n-word, it is beyond the permission structure, okay?
[00:51:05] It's the most explicit way that you can be racist.
[00:51:10] Americans have an unlimited appetite, an unlimited appetite for anti-black policies
[00:51:21] that you can try and justify, and Republicans do this all the time.
[00:51:27] But when you actually drop all pretexts that there is like a justification for this and
[00:51:31] you just engage in the most classic versions of anti-black racism, so overt that it's indefensible,
[00:51:39] even the most racist guys will come out and be like, yeah, this is a bridge too far for
[00:51:43] us.
[00:51:44] This is pretty fucked up.
[00:51:45] You should apologize.
[00:51:46] Okay.
[00:51:48] Now, does this mean anything?
[00:51:52] No.
[00:51:53] Guess maybe woke is like not as bad
[00:51:56] Not as dead as we previously might have thought it was right. There's that
[00:52:04] Considering that he felt the need to delete this so there's that silver lining I guess
[00:52:16] Having said that
[00:52:18] This, this is a perfect story that, that explains the permissible racism phenomena that I love
[00:52:27] talking about.
[00:52:29] The Obamas.
[00:52:30] Now, initially, as you say, the White House kind of owns the moment, didn't sort of dismiss
[00:52:36] it, didn't say that it, didn't say they would delete it, Caroline Levitt, instead
[00:52:41] saying this.
[00:52:42] This is from an internet meme video depicting President Trump as the king of the jungle
[00:52:47] and the Democrats as characters from The Lion King. Please stop the fake outrage and report
[00:52:53] on something today that actually matters to the American public. So that's the initial
[00:52:58] statement from Caroline Levitt. Since then, well, since that was released, there was quite
[00:53:04] a lot of outrage, as you might expect, and a new White House statement then came out.
[00:53:09] A shorter one said simply a White House staffer erroneously made the post. It has
[00:53:14] has been taken down and yeah, John Boyd Jr. since he was blocked from a White House meeting
[00:53:21] for farmers and told the administration is moving away from D.I. and small farmers towards
[00:53:25] large white agribusiness, let that sink in small farmers pushed out black farmers shut
[00:53:29] out power consolidated. This is Donald Trump's America reward the connected erase everyone
[00:53:33] else.
[00:53:36] Happy black history month everybody. Sure enough. It has gone. So a suggestion there
[00:53:42] which raises new questions about the fact that a White House staffer had access to the president's
[00:53:48] two social accounts at 11.45 at night. Why would that be the case? Incidentally, between 11.45 at
[00:53:54] night and five just after 5 a.m. this morning, there were more than 70 different posts on the
[00:54:00] social media account of the president about all sorts of issues, including a meme about a dog.
[00:54:06] So, you know, read into that what you will. Quite extraordinary stuff. The statement has gone
[00:54:12] Sorry that the image has gone, but outrage as as I said, Tim Scott is the only black
[00:54:19] Republican senator, a close friend of President Trump's. He said, praying it was fake because
[00:54:25] it's the most racist thing I have seen out of this White House. The president should remove it.
[00:54:30] That is Tim Scott and Chuck Schumer. Praying it was fake. Like, what the fuck do you mean?
[00:54:36] praying it was fake what how could it be fake is real also that is what he thinks about you
[00:54:43] and you're a republican you already know that's what your colleagues think about you big dog
[00:54:49] fuck you mean praying it was fake this is the most racist thing i've ever seen
[00:54:57] i swear to god bro these guys the only reason why tim scott is saying that
[00:55:02] is because he has to engage in ass covering. Okay. The only reason why Tim Scott feels the need
[00:55:08] to say that in this very moment is because he has to engage in ass covering because this makes
[00:55:17] his position utterly indefensible as a black Republican. Okay.
[00:55:22] That's it. In some ways, this is like the European saying like we'd rather be happy vassals than
[00:55:35] angry slaves, right? Like that's what it is. That's what it is. It's just like it's too offensive to
[00:55:44] continue being the token black person for this administration for the conservative movement,
[00:55:52] when you have the president depicting two pivotal black figures of American politics as apes?
[00:56:09] Top Democrat, of course, said racist, vile, abhorrent.
[00:56:14] This is dangerous and degrades our country where our Senate Republicans, the president,
[00:56:19] president must immediately delete the post and apologize to the Obamas, two great Americans
[00:56:23] who make Donald Trump look like a small, envious man. So quite a lot of outrage, as you would
[00:56:32] expect. One other thing I must just tell you, Jonathan, that I think is just extraordinary
[00:56:37] and a reflection of America today. It has emerged that Donald Trump told Chuck Schumer,
[00:56:43] who we were just talking about, that he would release a massive amount of funding money to
[00:56:50] Congress if they agreed that he could rename Dulles Airport, Trump Airport, and that he
[00:56:57] could rename Penn Station in New York, Trump Station. This after he has already renamed
[00:57:04] the Kennedy Center here in Washington, the Trump Kennedy Center, and the Institute
[00:57:10] for peace, the Trump Institute for peace, somewhat of a cult of personality going on here in the
[00:57:17] United States.
[00:57:18] I'm going to keep it above 50. That's, that's insult the injury. And I love it. Okay. I love
[00:57:23] that they just tack that on to the end of Chuck Schumer's like, Oh, you must delete
[00:57:28] this now, Mr. President. Like that straight up shows exactly where the Democratic party's
[00:57:34] priorities are like that's not, that's not an own against Donald Trump in my opinion. That's
[00:57:41] an own against the Democrats. The Democrats are wheeling and dealing and playing ball
[00:57:45] with Trump over some of the dumbest shit. Like conceding on some of the dumbest things
[00:57:51] you possibly could have in your, in your laundry list of demands. And I suspect this
[00:57:58] is a, they showed that in this moment, did you be like, this is where the Democrats
[00:58:03] priorities are they don't so that's the story so far Philip Lewis says there are no gorillas
[00:58:17] in the Lion King. Yeah. White House claims the video depicting Obama's monkeys is from
[00:58:22] an internet meme where Trump is the king of the jungle and Democrats are characters from
[00:58:25] the Lion King. Bill Lewis responds, there are no gorillas in the Lion King. Did you
[00:58:36] see this? Oh yeah, I was gonna play this in a second. Yeah, the the response that they're
[00:58:48] running is that it's a mistake. It's a mistake from a staffer, which I don't know why there
[00:58:55] would be a staffer that is, that has access to Donald Trump's. I don't know why staffers
[00:59:06] who have access to Donald Trump's account at 1130 at night. But yeah, do I do I appreciate
[00:59:15] this story in the news cycle, especially because it exposes the fraudulent nature of people
[00:59:21] like Tim Scott, saying, praying it was fake.
[00:59:26] That's so funny.
[00:59:28] I'm praying it was fake.
[00:59:30] This is the most racist thing I've seen out of this White House.
[00:59:34] This is it, buddy.
[00:59:37] Have you been paying attention?
[00:59:40] When Trump was saying Haitians are eating cats and dogs, you were campaigning alongside
[00:59:45] him.
[00:59:46] Okay?
[00:59:48] When Trump was saying all Somalians are parasites that must be purged from the American boundaries,
[00:59:57] you were not letting out a peep.
[01:00:00] The fuck do you think that was about?
[01:00:03] You know?
[01:00:04] What the fuck did you think that was about?
[01:00:07] What could that possibly have been about?
[01:00:14] Hmm.
[01:00:20] You know?
[01:00:24] That's not my Donald.
[01:00:26] That was different.
[01:00:27] It's not, though.
[01:00:29] It's not.
[01:00:31] That was all in service of propagandizing through racial animus, a scheme of putting
[01:00:39] black and brown neighbors of ours in concentration camps.
[01:00:46] So all of it is racist.
[01:00:48] The entire underpinning that is the motivation for this racialized animus is white supremacy.
[01:01:00] But of course, because liberalism is hegemonic, liberals can only understand something as races
[01:01:06] when you hit certain cultural touch points, right?
[01:01:10] Depicting black people as, you know, monkeys or apes is one of those things, saying the
[01:01:16] n-word is another one of those things, like something that I've talked about quite a
[01:01:21] bit, like Ronald Reagan was horrifyingly racist in his policies.
[01:01:27] Okay?
[01:01:28] Ronald Reagan was horrifyingly raised in his policies, but Ronald Reagan's messaging strategy
[01:01:37] didn't like directly say the n-word, but basically found different ways of disparaging black
[01:01:43] people, specifically the welfare queen strategy, right? Something that Lee Atwater, famous
[01:01:49] Republican strategist talked about openly. Now, for a lot of liberals, the recognition
[01:01:58] that Ronald Reagan was an unimaginable racist did not come from, you know, flooding black
[01:02:05] neighborhoods with crack cocaine and doing the war on drugs or anything like that. But
[01:02:10] it actually came from Ronald Reagan having a private conversation with Richard Nixon,
[01:02:15] he said African diplomats are monkeys. That's when liberals were like, wait a minute, Ronald Reagan is
[01:02:20] racist. This was a couple of years ago. And it's like, bitch, what do you mean? This is when you
[01:02:26] realize Ronald Reagan is racist. Are you out of your fucking mind? That's what it is. That's when
[01:02:33] you found out. And for a lot of liberals, this is it. Whoa, keep black people out of it. No,
[01:02:40] I'm not keep what do you mean black people? First of all
[01:02:45] Black people are a part of every conversation even when they're not in the room
[01:02:49] It's like the number one thing that that white people love fucking shitting on for no reason
[01:02:55] You'll have white on white violence and you'll have a guy still turn around and be like well
[01:03:00] What about black people? I mean Charlie Kirk was killed by a wonder bread-ass Mormon boy
[01:03:05] Okay. And they still, the last words that came out of Charlie Kirk's mouth is counting
[01:03:10] or not counting gang violence.
[01:03:12] So, fuck, do you mean keep black people out of it?
[01:03:28] White races can't keep black people out of any conversation. It's their number one
[01:03:32] thing that they love slamming into every conversation. In any case, having said that, this is the
[01:03:55] story. This is the big story that people are getting offended by. I mean if this is,
[01:04:02] If this is what causes people to realize that Trump is a fucking racist, you know, I'll take
[01:04:06] it, I guess.
[01:04:09] Strange that this would be it.
[01:04:11] But I guess not so strange when you recognize that this is the only thing that liberals
[01:04:18] fucking respond to.
[01:04:21] The only thing at all.
[01:04:26] Perfectly explain how white lives who like Reagan act.
[01:04:29] Yeah. Lots of other things are just accidents. They don't really mean what you're saying.
[01:04:33] They mean what one of us doesn't walk to the other side of the row when they see a black
[01:04:37] person. Yeah.
[01:04:40] Yeah.
[01:04:47] Donald Trump took a full page ad in the New York times demanding that the falsely accused
[01:04:54] Central Park five get fucking executed. Okay. I think or any time he talks about like a black
[01:05:03] person, a black politician, he'll be like, they're low IQ. The fuck do you think that's a substitute
[01:05:09] for. It all stems around the same racist ass bullshit. Exactly. You know?
[01:05:26] Is him and his father were prosecuted by the federal government for refusing to rent
[01:05:33] their properties to black people? Like, there's never been a moment where Donald Trump
[01:05:39] wasn't demonstrating white supremacist racism
[01:05:43] specifically anti-black racism
[01:05:50] but i don't think it's time to uh... move the needle in that direction
[01:05:55] anyway moving on from that story to some positive news
[01:05:59] okay once again the theory of bernie cratt
[01:06:02] liberalism
[01:06:03] being the savior of the democratic party is real the method is real
[01:06:09] we are now moving on to new jersey
[01:06:11] my birthright
[01:06:14] the beautiful state
[01:06:16] new wave of
[01:06:18] her z
[01:06:19] okay
[01:06:20] eight forty tom malinowski walked into the sweet spot
[01:06:25] this bar
[01:06:26] hipster lounge here
[01:06:28] in south orange
[01:06:30] Supporters gathered for what was supposed to be a victory celebration and he came in victorious smiling
[01:06:37] people were hugging him
[01:06:40] Cheering him on and soon he was whisked away to the back of the room into a private room and
[01:06:48] He never returned never never came out from there ain't no way of fucking YouTube chatter
[01:06:53] Just gave me a super chat saying did you see the new racist AI video from Trump?
[01:07:00] Ain't no way YouTube ain't no way
[01:07:08] YouTube chat is now resembling twitch chat down to the guy
[01:07:13] Who responded to that super chat saying has not shocked his dog. I like that now my haters are are
[01:07:21] They're they're tuning in to the fucking YouTube stream as well
[01:07:24] Well, dog, the Piker Broadcasting Service is sponsored by you, the viewers, and it's
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[01:07:49] I have to say though, you don't actually need to subscribe on YouTube to Rewind.
[01:07:53] rewind function works. On Twitch, you do have to subscribe to be able to utilize the
[01:07:59] rewind function. So, chatter who just gave me that super chat. You can just rewind.
[01:08:08] You don't even need to subscribe to do that. You feel me?
[01:08:22] I just got done covering it.
[01:08:27] Why? Because Annalela Mejia, a far left progressive activist from Glen Ridge, has basically stunned the political landscape here, the political world, by coming from virtually nowhere
[01:08:47] and leading as the night closes with almost 500 votes ahead
[01:08:55] of Malinasky, which is nobody.
[01:08:57] That was not on anybody's bingo card, frankly.
[01:09:01] And now Malinasky's people are huddling
[01:09:05] and are talking about reevaluating the vote by mail ballots
[01:09:12] make sure they're properly cured with proper signatures.
[01:09:18] And now this is not, this is not done yet. Okay. It's not done yet.
[01:09:22] But my analysis,
[01:09:26] my analysis on this is that
[01:09:31] this is a spectacular underdog moment here. Okay.
[01:09:37] Regardless of whether or not, uh,
[01:09:39] may he wins okay because this is like she came out of fucking nowhere for the
[01:09:47] most part everything was positioned against her and yet she was able to she
[01:09:55] was able to overcome all odds like her overall expenditure is so marginal in
[01:10:02] comparison to everybody else. Like, look at the ad support.
[01:10:14] Girl, there's a chatter and you do that keeps typing the N
[01:10:16] where the hard are. You need mods in their ASAP.
[01:10:22] We don't got nobody looking in there.
[01:10:26] I don't see it.
[01:10:32] I'm like 20 minutes behind love YouTube, but are you gonna cover the New Jersey primary results today? That's so funny
[01:11:02] People are throwing up question marks in the chat. They didn't even see it.
[01:11:25] Yeah, we got razor thin, razor thin margins here for Mejia.
[01:11:32] It augurs what could be a very long, tedious fight.
[01:11:38] There's no one's using the word recount right now, but I think one of the big ironies of
[01:11:42] this race is that the American-Israeli political action or political affairs committee, the most
[01:11:52] powerful pro-Israel lobby in the United States, launched ads attacking Malinowski
[01:12:00] in this campaign, which startled many political observers
[01:12:04] around the country.
[01:12:06] The outcome of that is that, yeah.
[01:12:08] My name's reporter, so Tim, because this is unheard of.
[01:12:13] OK.
[01:12:14] This is an incredible upset.
[01:12:17] Like, the very fact that this is contested in the ways
[01:12:21] that it is is un-fucking-heard of.
[01:12:24] And a big part of it is because of APAC interference.
[01:12:29] This story basically takes all of my, um, my arguments and turns it into proof.
[01:12:36] Even if, I mean, there's a high likelihood that she wins.
[01:12:40] Okay.
[01:12:42] But even if she did not, with these results being so close to one another,
[01:12:47] it still is the proof that I have been, uh, advocating for this and the Texas
[01:12:53] race that took place as well, uh, are two massive W's in the,
[01:12:59] the left alternative position being the one that is favored by even Democrats in the fucking suburbs, okay?
[01:13:11] You must understand if there was a little bit more if there was a little bit more support for her
[01:13:20] Like this is why I feel this is why I feel somewhat responsible
[01:13:29] For like not being everywhere all at once because I do feel like there are a lot of races out there where I don't think I have a lot of motion right I can't change like outcomes so dramatically but I could certainly help a little bit more.
[01:13:45] Like this is one of those races.
[01:13:47] And I'm, I'm, I'm aware of this, like I'm certainly aware of it. That's why I'm trying to do all this shit that I've been doing.
[01:13:59] doing. So last night, the decision desk basically gave what's his face? Milanowski, the victory.
[01:14:24] last night, Moulinowski was called. And then all of a sudden, because it's like a, Essex
[01:14:35] is a relatively wealthier district, a lot of straight blue voters on there. The Democratic
[01:14:42] primary here is obviously the most consequential aspect of this race. And the expectation
[01:14:51] was, you know, Malinowski cooked it, right? He won. But out of fucking nowhere, Mejia's
[01:15:01] campaign pulled through. Mejia's campaign pulled through with this incredibly rare upset. All
[01:15:12] the, all the cars were stacked against her. People overlooked her in general because
[01:15:18] they thought the district is too rich to go for a Bernie Cratt.
[01:15:26] It's very wealthy, 97 percentile, very educated, 96 percentile, very Gen X, 97 percentile,
[01:15:33] very homeowner, 72 percentile, okay?
[01:15:38] Or 72 percent home ownership rate.
[01:15:43] Truly, truly a tremendous upset for the demographics, right?
[01:15:52] Because these are the demographics that are the reason why Bernie Sanders didn't win in
[01:16:00] the Democratic primary, for example.
[01:16:06] This is the Democratic Party's Tea Party moment coming to fruition.
[01:16:12] Okay?
[01:16:13] Okay. Not only was the voter profile, the average voter, the median voter in this district,
[01:16:21] one that is supposed to favor an establishment Democrat in the calculations of the Democratic
[01:16:25] Party does, the Essex County political machine was also not in support of Mejia. Okay. This
[01:16:35] is before we get to the other side of the story, the APAC aspect of the story, which
[01:16:42] I will be getting to in a second. This was, um, hold on, or was it, or there's more, oh
[01:16:50] here. Yeah. And if you want to look at the actual ad support, Tahitia Way, which was the
[01:16:57] APEC candidate, got $2.6 million worth of ads from APEC subsidiaries. The anti-Tom
[01:17:05] Malinowski ad spend was around $1.9 million. And Tom Malinowski was supposed to be
[01:17:10] be the candidate that was favored to win this race. Former Congress person, right? He had
[01:17:17] all the backing. He had all the, he had the background. He was the perfect candidate for
[01:17:21] this. Okay.
[01:17:24] Malinowski had 900,000 in supportive ads. Brendan Gill had 495,000. Zach Beecher had
[01:17:31] 340,000. Annalia Mejia had 215,000. And the highest spending advertiser in the
[01:17:41] Contest was United Democracy Project, which I think is a apex subsidiary.
[01:17:47] Okay. So basically, the entire race was designed in a way where Mejia should have lost.
[01:18:01] This was her final day message that apparently resonated with a lot of voters.
[01:18:08] Let's take a look.
[01:18:09] Morning.
[01:18:10] Up and down.
[01:18:11] Talking to people.
[01:18:12] That's how we went.
[01:18:13] I'm running for Congress.
[01:18:15] The special election is on February 5th and I'm running because I think our government
[01:18:24] has been bought by billionaires and we're screwed if we don't send people who aren't
[01:18:30] heathered from that kind of pressure.
[01:18:32] I agree.
[01:18:33] Well, there you go.
[01:18:34] I think corporate interests, lobbyists, have bought our government.
[01:18:39] Absolutely.
[01:18:40] I think on both sides of the aisle, big money kind of controls both sides of the aisle,
[01:18:46] Democrats and Republicans, and unless we send people who are like,
[01:18:50] I'm not going to be part of that machine, we're not going to get out of this mess.
[01:18:54] So, I jumped into this race.
[01:18:56] I am not a politician.
[01:18:58] I am not a professional campaigner, I am an organized person.
[01:19:07] I am the kind of person who sees a problem and jumps in to fix it.
[01:19:11] Governor Phil Murphy signed the $15 minimum wage into law.
[01:19:14] Payton Sick Leave is now in the books in New Jersey.
[01:19:17] When Lilia was active in my presidential campaign,
[01:19:21] she's a great organizer and somebody who is going to be
[01:19:24] to be an extraordinarily wonderful congresswoman
[01:19:27] for the state of New Jersey.
[01:19:29] We need an organizer's energy in Washington
[01:19:32] to do what people of New Jersey need done.
[01:19:36] Folks have talked about the rising cost of child care,
[01:19:39] of housing, of health care.
[01:19:41] I've seen people get emotional over the idea
[01:19:45] that they don't think their kids are going to have
[01:19:47] the same opportunities that they have had.
[01:19:49] I came from my kids, and I came kids,
[01:19:52] and some of the traffic in there.
[01:19:54] Chocolate?
[01:19:55] Chocolate's here.
[01:19:56] The general trend towards less and less freedom is nauseating.
[01:20:02] We come to Livingston, Milburn, Bloomfield, Nutley, you name it.
[01:20:07] We come to these communities because we want to raise our families
[01:20:11] in a great, friendly place.
[01:20:14] Access to the city and train lines and infrastructure.
[01:20:18] We want access to the good schools.
[01:20:20] We also know that a ZIP Code does not protect us from rising violent authoritarianism.
[01:20:36] In a moment of rising authoritarianism, of economic insecurity, of state-sanctioned violence, any
[01:20:45] old flu just won't do.
[01:20:48] And I say abolish ICE NOW!
[01:20:54] You can't reform that!
[01:20:57] It's not fixable!
[01:21:00] I am running independent from the machine because I think big money has captured our government.
[01:21:05] I appreciate you even winning in Democratic Party back in the day.
[01:21:07] Oh yeah.
[01:21:08] It's a problem.
[01:21:09] And it's getting worse.
[01:21:10] It's getting so much worse, but if we keep sending people who are all they do is dance for that money,
[01:21:17] We're not going to get out of the situation.
[01:21:18] So I'm proposing try something different.
[01:21:21] I like the words you do.
[01:21:22] OK, OK, I'm going to leave you.
[01:21:25] I'm going to leave you.
[01:21:26] I'm going to leave you.
[01:21:27] I'm going to leave you.
[01:21:28] Yes!
[01:21:29] Yes!
[01:21:30] That's me.
[01:21:31] I've heard good things about you.
[01:21:32] I've heard good things about you.
[01:21:33] Don't forget, February 5th, it's a Thursday.
[01:21:35] They do that on purpose.
[01:21:40] Seemingly, this strategy resonated.
[01:21:43] The early vote versus election day split was something never seen in a New Jersey race
[01:21:48] before. Yeah. When you look at the vote by mail, Malinowski, December 20th and onwards
[01:21:53] got 72%. But the in-person early flipped it in Mejia's, uh, in-person early started flipping
[01:22:01] it in Mejia's favor. Okay. 51% from January 29th to February 3rd. The election day split
[01:22:09] was gangbusters for Mejia, 64% of the vote.
[01:22:15] Now, this was a phenomenal upset for that reason, and that's precisely the reason why the decision
[01:22:28] desk had already called it for Tom Malinowski.
[01:22:33] The Democrats, the DNC press had sent out an immediate press release congratulating
[01:22:39] Democratic nominee, Tom will announce down his victory in New Jersey 11 special election
[01:22:42] primary.
[01:22:49] This was a campaign that famously had that Bernie moment where he went on stage and
[01:22:56] said, our fight is not just with the Republicans. Our fight is also against the establishment
[01:23:04] Democrats as well. If you remember, um, this was something I, uh, something I brought up
[01:23:09] briefly, uh, because it was a big point of contention for a lot of, uh, blue dog Democrats
[01:23:15] that got very frustrated. Okay.
[01:23:25] I suck. Look at your Billie Eilish coverage. I'm a Tongva tribal member has been super
[01:23:28] annoying, but I will say that land bag and indigenous people are a major blind spot
[01:23:31] of left circles, I think having some native community leaders on your stream would be
[01:23:33] great for your audience and the larger left politics, sure. Except the Tongva tribes literally
[01:23:39] thanked Billie Eilish, no? Am I crazy? I was talking mostly about how they were using
[01:23:46] and abusing the reputation and the name of the Tongva tribe to attack Billie Eilish
[01:23:52] the most like cynical way possible.
[01:24:08] Money is just not as effective as it used to be. It's why the establishments trying to buy off
[01:24:11] creators of the chorus program. Yeah. The votes versus ad spend campaign for New Jersey 11.
[01:24:17] Annalya Mejia's cost per vote was just $12. That's four times better than Malinowski, which costs $55 per vote and 19 times better than Waze, which was $237 per vote.
[01:24:31] That efficiency is massive organic left-wing support from voters.
[01:24:41] But we still haven't talked about my ops.
[01:24:47] The United Democracy Project, which is an APEC subsidiary APEC by a different name. Now,
[01:24:53] this gives me a lot of confidence because I was worried that people would just like laser in on
[01:24:57] APEC and APEC alone, which has the highest name recognition and not see that as a, as a catch
[01:25:03] all for the Israeli lobby or numerous other entities affiliated with the pro Israeli position.
[01:25:09] I was also worried that APEC never actually makes Israel the primary focus in these
[01:25:15] sorts of ad spend campaigns when they're going up against the candidate, but instead find
[01:25:21] other identifiable features that they know is much more prescient, much more salient
[01:25:28] to attack. Right? Um, cause if you recall, I covered this extensively when APEC dumped
[01:25:34] $30 million into Corey Bush's race and, and, uh, and Jamal Bowman's race, they never
[01:25:40] talked about their Israel position, because if they had run any ads, if they had run any
[01:25:46] ads on the Israel position, that would have actually favored Jamal Bowman and Cory Bush,
[01:25:50] respectively. Right? The real purpose of the, the, uh, APAC ads, APAC backed ads were actually
[01:25:56] to, uh, in the democratic primary, separate Cory Bush and Jamal Bowman as bad Democrats
[01:26:02] that don't play ball. It's a very cynical way that these guys operate, but they
[01:26:07] already know better than anybody else that the pro-israeli position is not a favorable
[01:26:12] position especially in the democratic party's base of support. So they never run pro or anti-israel
[01:26:19] ads. They always run ads that are pertinent to whatever the individual race is. Now a lot of
[01:26:27] people don't understand that the APEC has always done this by the way. This is not new.
[01:26:31] So this person says it's so fucking funny that APEC tried to play it clever by flooding
[01:26:37] the zone with Tom Malinowski isn't progressive enough ads without ever considering that it
[01:26:40] didn't make voters Google who's the progressive for New Jersey 11.
[01:26:43] A special election to fill Mikey Sherrill's house seat.
[01:26:47] Tom Malinowski says he'll stand up to Trump.
[01:26:49] But hold on.
[01:26:50] In 2019, Tom Malinowski voted with Trump and the Republicans to fund ICE.
[01:26:56] Like think about this. You have to remember these guys are 100% like a pack and all these
[01:27:02] other ad groups, like all these other like lobbyist groups, 501 C fours, these packs,
[01:27:08] they are policy agnostic in their ad campaign. Like they will literally run a Tom Malinowski
[01:27:14] is not sufficiently anti-ice ad because they thought Tom Malinowski is the guy to beat
[01:27:21] here. Right? The reason why they cynically attacked Tom Malinowski is because they did
[01:27:26] not even consider that Annalelia Meija would have any shot at winning this race, which is
[01:27:33] why they beat the shit out of Tom Malinowski with these attack ads that presented him as
[01:27:41] a fake anti-ice candidate because they understand that the appetite there was for a true
[01:27:47] abolish ice candidate. Okay. Understand this. Something that the democratic party at the
[01:27:55] national level refuses to reckon with, or perhaps they are aware of it, but they actively try
[01:28:00] to suppress this demand from their voters. Okay. 27 count of Friday. Yeah, you're washed
[01:28:06] on. You're right. Angry Mexican. I only have 17,000 on YouTube and 27,000 on Twitch.
[01:28:13] should probably kill myself. I should probably stop streaming. Alright, thank you Angry Mexican.
[01:28:21] 47 month subscriber. That's it.
[01:28:43] All right, so good run. Good run. It's over. I should quit while I'm ahead.
[01:29:01] So there's a couple different things that APAC is doing, obviously, in their coordinated efforts to pump up certain candidates in their coordinated efforts to attack certain candidates, right?
[01:29:12] candidates, right? If a candidate is like anti-Israel, they go after them pretty hard.
[01:29:17] Tom Malinowski is not exactly anti-Israel, right? I mean, he has a position that's closer to
[01:29:25] liberal Zionism. He is the one who wanted to condition aid to Israel, right? Like,
[01:29:31] he has talked about conditioning aid to Israel, which garnered a lot of attention and enmity from
[01:29:35] APEC. That is precisely the reason why they were trying to make sure that he doesn't win
[01:29:40] the race and all this ended up doing was actually make people google who the true progressive candidate was
[01:29:53] they attacked malinowski by bringing up his records on ice
[01:29:59] because tom malinowski was also trying to do the anti-ice pivot right
[01:30:02] it.
[01:30:03] 200 million that got us this Democrats called Malinowski's vote a blank check for the Trump
[01:30:12] administration and public trail. We can't trust Tom Malinowski. UDP is responsible for the
[01:30:18] content of this.
[01:30:20] Here's what that I mean this was this was a spectacular backfire, right?
[01:30:35] Because Mejia was the anti-ice candidate.
[01:30:40] She was an activist.
[01:30:43] She was a true progressive.
[01:30:44] She was backed by Bernie Sanders and AOC.
[01:30:47] was a Bernie Cratt, right? A left flank Democrat, as I like to call them, or a Bernie Cratt.
[01:31:00] So UDP is the APEC subsidiary that was running these ads. They didn't put the APEC name on it.
[01:31:07] It was just basically the United Democracy Project. That's what they call themselves.
[01:31:13] You've got the Democratic majority for Israel, United Democracy Project. There's
[01:31:16] numerous subsidiaries under APAC that just like obviously don't want to have the
[01:31:20] association with the nation-state of Israel, even though they're operating at
[01:31:24] the behest of the nation-state of Israel. Okay? So because this ad campaign
[01:31:34] rightfully called out the inconsistencies of Malinowski, a lot of
[01:31:39] people actually chose the true progressive alternative. And Mejia rose from that fight.
[01:31:49] What's also interesting, as I talked about with the ad spend here, was the fact that
[01:31:54] Tahitia Way, which was the APEC-backed candidate, barely secured the third place position.
[01:32:09] This is basically a combination of all of the arguments that I present, that the anti-Israel
[01:32:17] position is incredibly favorable, which is precisely the reason why APEC and its subsidiaries
[01:32:23] that don't even have the name Israel in them will never talk about the candidates Israel positions, but instead other things.
[01:32:31] This also proves once again that the voter, the base of support within the Democratic Party, regardless of their demographics, regardless of their median voter net worth income, still want a real fighter, a true progressive.
[01:32:48] and they see the best possible candidate as the most left-leaning candidate in these races, okay?
[01:32:58] This is just proof that that is the case.
[01:33:01] There is no other way to describe how little money was spent on the Mejia Camp
[01:33:11] that caused her to get this incredible upset.
[01:33:18] Here's AOC's statement on the AAPAC expenditure here.
[01:33:21] I hope Dems begin to see that moderate or progressive AAPAC is not our friend.
[01:33:25] They endorse January 6th's insurrectionists, yet if you so much, yet if you so much as
[01:33:28] suggest the U.S. upholds his own leaky laws, no matter your record, they will work against
[01:33:33] you.
[01:33:34] They are a right-wing organization that undermines democracy.
[01:33:36] They have zero tolerance for any diversity of thought from their line and pressure
[01:33:39] elected officials to increasingly place themselves at odds with our responsibility
[01:33:43] to represent the electorate and the views of the majority of Americans who find
[01:33:47] genocide in Gaza, an appalling affront to American values and do not want to see U.S.
[01:33:51] taxpayer-funded weapons used to perpetuate it.
[01:33:55] APAC also knows this.
[01:33:57] That's why none of their political ads discuss the actual issue at all and why they vaguely
[01:34:02] use or use vaguely named super PACs so people don't connect them with their own stated
[01:34:06] political mission and intent.
[01:34:17] You understand?
[01:34:24] There are multiple reasons as to why this took place.
[01:34:27] One of them is obviously the anti-APAC position, the anti-corporate pack, and super pack position
[01:34:31] in general.
[01:34:35] Why are people saying this?
[01:34:38] Why are there hella people saying 27K bro fell off?
[01:34:42] You guys want me to like quit live streaming on YouTube?
[01:34:45] Is that what it is?
[01:34:46] that I'm my attention is split between both YouTube and Twitch. Is that why you keep repeating this over and over again?
[01:34:54] What is this new meta?
[01:35:03] Probably Asmone Chatters? No, they're not Asmone Chatters. These are like long-term community members. I don't understand.
[01:35:16] Where the fuck are these people coming from?
[01:35:29] The same chatter said this, YouTube neglected.
[01:35:32] Just people being really dumb, I don't care.
[01:35:35] Yeah, there's a 45,000 combined viewers on the broadcast currently.
[01:35:42] I'm just a little confused that there is because we're all cringed and only know three jokes.
[01:36:07] before you, it's think before you sleep from Twitter, what is think before you sleep?
[01:36:26] Anyway, to the YouTube Shatters, once again, don't forget to like the YouTube stream,
[01:36:33] like the YouTube stream, YouTube live stream.
[01:36:39] And let's continue with the commentary.
[01:36:45] Okay.
[01:36:47] I think it's important that people realize
[01:36:48] people don't know that they're supporting or opposing APACs
[01:36:50] simply because they run ads under a different name.
[01:36:51] They're absorbing the content.
[01:36:53] And yesterday it meant weakening Malinowski.
[01:36:55] Yesterday it was more of a strategic blunder by APAC
[01:36:57] and less people finally turning on them.
[01:37:00] APACs preferred candidate got 17%,
[01:37:02] I don't think most people knew that she was backed by APEC.
[01:37:05] There's also some truth to this as well.
[01:37:06] It was definitely more so in APEC Blunder because they tried to undermine Malinowski.
[01:37:16] They tried to undermine Malinowski and they tried to highlight their specific candidate.
[01:37:32] But their specific candidate had no motion. Okay. But it's still a massive fucking W,
[01:37:44] especially considering, especially considering how much, why undermining him because they
[01:37:50] thought he was stepping out of line. Okay. Because Malinowski had said that he would
[01:37:59] condition aid to Israel and they didn't even consider Mejia as a threat. Okay, do you understand?
[01:38:11] Hassan treats YouTube like the second class viewers. No, I don't. And if you want more
[01:38:17] attention, go like the stream. In any case, there's also this element. I grew up in this
[01:38:26] district, these voters are not socialists and they're not particularly far left. Instead,
[01:38:29] they're normie dems who are mad, like mad mad. And the progressive left is the only movement
[01:38:34] on the dem side capable of channeling this level of anger. Exactly. This is the opportunity
[01:38:40] here. These guys are not card carrying socialists. Many of them actually probably are terrified
[01:38:46] of the moniker of socialism, even if they actually have a lot of sympathetic views
[01:38:51] to what you would consider to be socialism in the United States of America in 2026.
[01:38:57] Having said that, however, if you were to be like, do you self-identify as a social, to
[01:39:00] be like, oh, absolutely not.
[01:39:03] But the reason why they want a socialist alternative is because they're slowly but surely beginning
[01:39:10] to recognize that the Democratic Party's description of progressive values oftentimes
[01:39:17] revolves around or is perfectly demonstrated by
[01:39:21] candidates who happen to be either socialist or socialist adjacent
[01:39:25] Okay
[01:39:27] That's it
[01:39:29] That's it
[01:39:32] What is this like this yes, it's my own tweet what about it I
[01:39:38] Mean yeah, this is what happened
[01:39:47] The voters are mad at the status quo. They are mad at the status quo being represented
[01:39:55] by the Democratic Party because the status quo on the Democratic Party is doing nothing
[01:40:01] against the onslaught of fascism coming from the Republican Party. So any candidate that
[01:40:07] says, I'm going to take it to him, I'm going to fight against the lackluster, do nothing
[01:40:15] position that the Democrats are representing is going to be a candidate that actually wins
[01:40:20] a lot of favor with this base of support. There is no more loyalty to establishment Democratic
[01:40:27] Party politics like there was back in the fucking day. Nowadays, when the Democratic
[01:40:33] Party's establishment candidates say, oh, we are the real establishment, we are the
[01:40:37] real electability pick, you must vote for us.
[01:40:42] Next, Democratic Party voters do not respond positively to that sort of thing.
[01:40:47] You understand?
[01:40:48] They don't.
[01:40:50] They want something more.
[01:40:57] Zoran is only one part of the story.
[01:41:00] Okay?
[01:41:03] There are many more candidates out there that are running on this ticket that are not
[01:41:08] Shying away from saying fuck the establishment Democrats as well as the republicans
[01:41:13] That is not a bad thing. That is a good thing
[01:41:18] Here's Julie Rajinsky who ran the super PAC in support of Tom Malinowski's campaign
[01:41:23] I'm also a pro-israel Jew what a pack did in this race is bad for Jews bad for Israel and bad for having bipartisan congressional support for the
[01:41:31] Very issue a pack claims the caribou
[01:41:38] Let this have said Zoran endorsed Hocho a totally valid thing to be
[01:41:42] frustrated with. I am also one of those people. Okay, I'll get to that in a little
[01:41:49] bit.
[01:41:58] Let's talk about something positive for a change before we talk about you know
[01:42:04] Another moment that that I think is a misstep
[01:42:13] Chep says come back to Qatar we want to use you as a deterrence a deterrence from what I
[01:42:22] Don't think anyone in the region is that fond of me. I think they won't shy away from bombing Qatar because I'm there
[01:42:29] You mean Iran
[01:42:34] the
[01:42:53] APAC, the line, Super PAC spent millions of the feet, Tom Malinowski for backing conditions
[01:42:59] on USA to Israel. As I said, they may help elect Annalelia Mejia, a more progressive
[01:43:05] candidate who deems Israel's actions a genocide, raises too close to call a spectacular
[01:43:09] own goal. Okay.
[01:43:18] There's another aspect of the story that I'm going to be mentioning here as well.
[01:43:23] malinowski was astonishingly pro-israel vote in congress but he said he wouldn't guarantee
[01:43:26] he would always vote unconditionally to send tax dollars to israel in the future and pro-israel
[01:43:30] groups wanted to send a message to dems that even their new balancing act will make them
[01:43:34] a target and it fucking cooked them, okay?
[01:43:41] good job there's also more positive news for the first time geopistratus are telling
[01:43:47] axios that losing the senate where republicans have a 53 to 47 majority is a distinct
[01:43:52] possibility, the House is already expected to be lost based on history.
[01:43:59] This is happening in spite of the National Democratic Party led by establishment Democrats
[01:44:13] are doing everything in their fucking power to tarnish the left flank, to basically
[01:44:19] shut the doors to actual Democrats with real grassroots support, okay?
[01:44:27] Hakim Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are basically terrified of this prospect, or at least they're
[01:44:35] moving as though they're terrified of this fucking prospect.
[01:44:41] And yet the Democrats have the motion, or at least the left-flank candidates create
[01:44:48] real grassroots support around the Democratic Party.
[01:44:52] But once again, the last thing I want to say about the Mejia race, the last two things
[01:44:59] I want to mention with the Mejia race is that the abolishized position is spectacularly
[01:45:05] popular.
[01:45:06] Okay?
[01:45:07] No matter what Hakeem Jeffries and stupid ass Chuck Schumer try to present, the abolishized
[01:45:15] This position is the fucking position. Democrats that are running for Congress. Remember this.
[01:45:22] Okay. Remember this. I talked to two Democrats earlier today who told me about voters telling
[01:45:29] them they had planned to vote for Malinowski, but were either swayed against it or wavering
[01:45:34] because he had voted to fund ICE. Clearly getting that from Apex ads.
[01:45:45] And right now, as it stands, Mejia currently leads by just under 500 votes in New Jersey.
[01:45:50] 11, based on this outstanding vote, a rough estimate for net gain is remaining E-day, election
[01:45:55] day, Mejia getting 100 plus votes, from provisionals Mejia getting 350 plus votes, and the late
[01:46:01] vote by mail tabulations, putting Malinowski at 600 plus votes, with the final margin
[01:46:07] a rough estimate with Mejia being plus 350 votes, a razor thin majority for Mejia, okay?
[01:46:24] That is where the fuck we're at.
[01:46:27] And that's the reason why this man was covering the story in the way that he was covering
[01:46:31] it almost teary-eyed.
[01:46:32] I'm not going to ask you may have lost, but they have also may have paved the way for a
[01:46:40] Mahayya who is a critic of Israel.
[01:46:45] It's like maybe a worse nightmare.
[01:46:47] So we're going to have to see how this all plays out in the next couple of days.
[01:46:51] I'm Charlie style of the record.
[01:46:55] Now let's get to Governor Kathy Hockel.
[01:46:58] big off of Zoran's momentum. As you guys know, Zoran is tremendously popular. There's no other
[01:47:16] way to cover it. He is developing very quickly a cult of personality around him. He's incredibly
[01:47:22] popular, partially because he was able to secure universal pre-K by the eighth day of
[01:47:31] his administration, of his mayoralty, okay? Eight days in.
[01:47:45] Having said that, while he is doing a great job as a mayor, my expectation of Zoran and
[01:47:59] the expectation of many others, like myself, of Zoran is not that he would be a great mayor
[01:48:06] and basically fix the reputation of the Democratic Party, but also simultaneously be such a great
[01:48:13] mayor and a movement guy, that he actually is the pivotal person that promotes the building
[01:48:24] and the organizational capabilities of socialism in the United States of America, okay? Democratic
[01:48:31] Socialists of America. He is a movement guy himself. He is a real DSA guy. AOC was
[01:48:40] DSA endorsed, but did not spend, if I'm not mistaken, nearly as much time as Zoran has
[01:48:45] spent within the ranks of the Democratic Socialists of America in New York City. Zoran also has
[01:48:52] an activist background. Okay, there's a reason why I said he is the real deal, because
[01:48:59] he created the Students for Justin Palestine chapter in Bowdoin, Bowdoin, however you
[01:49:07] say it. Okay? You don't do that kind of stuff if you're fag, if you're phony. You don't do
[01:49:11] that kind of stuff at a time when this is the third rail of American politics, if you have
[01:49:17] ambitions of higher office. Before people say is Obama, there is no comparison between
[01:49:22] Obama and Zoran in that regard. If you look at his activist background, if you look
[01:49:31] at his activist background, that's not what that shows. You need to understand something.
[01:49:39] No one who has ambitions of higher office is spending any fucking time near students
[01:49:44] for justice SJP way back in the fucking day. Okay. A lot of you have the perspective of
[01:49:54] today on the issue of Israel Palestine. So you have no comparison. You have no comprehension
[01:50:00] of what a pro-Palestinian anti-Zionist, anti-genocide position used to look like for your career
[01:50:06] ambitions. Okay?
[01:50:16] This is why maybe decisions like this one are even worse, in my opinion.
[01:50:24] The eve of her formal nomination as the Democratic candidate for governor, Kathy Hochelt, notches
[01:50:28] the long-expected endorsement of Mayor Mamdani. And it's getting her.
[01:50:33] For me, I will admit this is a ginormous disappointment. Okay? Straight up. If this cooks my chances
[01:50:44] of Lincolnna with Zoran while I'm out here or in the future, so be it. I have to fucking
[01:50:50] stay honest, and I have to say my piece, okay? This is, once again, a ridiculous moment, okay?
[01:51:02] Totally, totally unacceptable, especially, especially considering that it didn't have to come so
[01:51:11] fucking early. Okay. The reason why I say this is because Huckle was called a disgusting genocide
[01:51:27] apologist by Zoram Mamdani himself, both early early on into the genocide all the way back
[01:51:37] in the December of 2023, and then once again, I believe in July of 2024.
[01:51:49] Not only that, but also, while Hocal has signed off on Universal Pre-K, there's a lot more
[01:52:01] in Zoran's agenda that she must sign off on, especially as it pertains to a wealth tax that
[01:52:10] he wants to apply in the city of New York.
[01:52:15] And I'm not so certain that that assurance has come from Cathy Huckle.
[01:52:21] We can argue on whether or not that's the appropriate thing to do regardless instead
[01:52:25] of putting in quote-unquote our guy, Delgado, former lieutenant governor, who is the progressive
[01:52:35] choice in this gubernatorial race.
[01:52:44] Having said that, I don't think there's any fucking reason to hit this early pro-hocle
[01:52:52] line and kind of humiliate your closest allies, including people that knows Oran very well.
[01:53:01] A lot better than I do. Let's be real. Okay?
[01:53:13] But I see the other side of this as well. As I've talked about with the Chiose primary
[01:53:20] efforts being thwarted before it was ever launched.
[01:53:34] The reason why Delgado was backed by DSA affiliates and other DSA candidates and people who are
[01:53:46] very close to Zoran Mamdani, is because Delgado himself is not exactly a socialist either.
[01:53:56] Okay?
[01:54:02] Zoran gave his endorsement in the nation pretty much after spelling it out a week prior to
[01:54:11] this, but still gave his endorsement in the nation saying, I'm endorsing Governor, Governor
[01:54:17] Kathy Hockel because she's someone willing to engage in honest dialogue to deliver.
[01:54:21] There's also along with the movement that powered our campaign is how we secrete a
[01:54:23] historic agreement on childcare and we're just getting started.
[01:54:28] Here's the thing.
[01:54:30] Hockel, or Hockel, I really fucking say it, is an opportunist and you can work with
[01:54:38] an opportunist.
[01:54:39] Okay?
[01:54:40] We got a taste of that with the New York, far before Zoran even became a nationally known
[01:54:50] figure in New York politics or in the Democratic Party, Huckle was anti-congestion pricing
[01:54:58] and once that was actually forced through, she very quickly became the champion of congestion
[01:55:05] pricing in New York.
[01:55:07] That was the first indication that she is willing to fight tooth and nail up until the
[01:55:14] very moment where something passes and then she'll be the biggest fucking champion of
[01:55:18] it.
[01:55:19] Rather than thwart the initiative and efforts all the way to the best of her ability, she
[01:55:31] is malleable.
[01:55:34] It's okay.
[01:55:35] It's honest.
[01:55:36] than a Democratic party. He needs 15 more cycles to be patient. Man, shut your bitch
[01:55:41] ass up. Okay. Go fucking, go fucking build communism in the United States of America.
[01:55:48] And then you can come back to me and do this cynical ass bullshit. Like I don't fucking
[01:55:52] know that this is still the Democratic party is a fucking liberal capitalist party that
[01:55:57] has set up, set up hurdles in front of any sort of left momentum as though that's
[01:56:03] It's not a primary part of my fucking commentary.
[01:56:06] Shut the fuck up, okay?
[01:56:08] You're not brilliant.
[01:56:09] You're not making a brilliant fucking assessment.
[01:56:11] You are just a fucking moron that is re-litigating the same things that I talk about with regular
[01:56:16] fucking frequency, okay?
[01:56:18] God, damn it, it is one of the most annoying things I hear all the fucking time.
[01:56:23] Build communism now!
[01:56:25] Build it now!
[01:56:26] Build communism now!
[01:56:27] It's time for the vanguard!
[01:56:29] It's time for siege communism!
[01:56:31] Build it now!
[01:56:33] it now or shut the fuck up you're not doing anything a lot of you fucking
[01:56:47] morons act like there's a build communism button that I just refuse to
[01:56:51] fucking press okay Jesus Christ
[01:57:03] I will be building communism tomorrow how will I do it?
[01:57:30] by going and yelling at the largest fucking socialist content creator
[01:57:36] in North America, in his Twitch chat.
[01:57:39] This is how I'm building the vanguard, okay?
[01:57:43] Hassan is the only hurdle against building communism tomorrow.
[01:57:47] If Hassan did not exist, we would have built the third party communist momentum tomorrow.
[01:57:53] Hassan's entire purpose is to shepherd the actual revolutionary communists that
[01:58:00] are ready to fucking go back into the democratic parties, back into the comfortable bosom of
[01:58:07] the democratic party, he is a shepherd. He is an enemy. He is an op. If these are the
[01:58:12] type of opinions that you have, if you do not understand what I'm trying to do here,
[01:58:18] especially in this moment where I'm quite literally criticizing Zoram Mammdani for not
[01:58:23] playing a role in being the guy, being the movement builder that he is supposed to be.
[01:58:30] A responsibility that I think he understands that he carries.
[01:58:36] And the disappointment that I have in this very moment, okay, the disagreement that
[01:58:42] I have, you are a fucking moron.
[01:58:53] The purity testers legit lead me left behind woke 1.0 no
[01:59:09] The problem is these guys don't understand where the fuck I'm coming from
[01:59:14] Okay, these guys don't understand where I'm coming from
[01:59:18] I have the same opinion that they do
[01:59:21] We have different methods and in the absence of an alternative in the absence of a fucking alternative
[01:59:31] You don't have anything you're just yelling at a guy trying to do something that you disagree with
[01:59:40] Okay, I'm one person. I'm one singular person. I'm a fucking Twitch streamer. Okay, I try to
[01:59:50] use the platform that I've been able to develop for good to the best of my ability in terms
[01:59:55] of building socialism in this fucking country and you think I'm the fucking opposition here.
[02:00:02] Okay.
[02:00:06] I thought that we would at this point, we would be a little bit more aware of what this
[02:00:11] looks like.
[02:00:12] Okay.
[02:00:13] Working within the confines, working within the confines of availability, the opportunity
[02:00:20] where there's an election machine in one of the two parties that is unfathomably weak
[02:00:25] right now because it's not fucking standing in opposition to the Republican fascists.
[02:00:31] Using that as an opportunity to show that the left position is the more viable position
[02:00:36] to as many Americans as fucking possible, especially considering that a big part of
[02:00:41] this nation is still a bunch of small business hitlerites and treatlerites of different
[02:00:46] Variety that have the most reactionary position on socialism because they're fucking oblivious about what socialism actually is what communism actually is
[02:00:54] Like you have to use whatever fucking options are given to you
[02:00:58] Okay, a lot of you are completely fucking delusional. I'm the biggest socialist on the internet also. I'm junk
[02:01:06] I'm just a small bean. No, this is your weakest argument
[02:01:09] That's no one's argument stop straw manning
[02:01:11] And we told you this would happen. Stop backing Democrats. Shut the fuck up. Shut up and build communism now.
[02:01:17] Shut up and build communism now. I'm banning you so you can go out there and actually fucking engage in the revolutionary organizing.
[02:01:23] Okay? Go out there and build communism. Write the fuck now. You're not doing it in this chat by yelling at me. Okay?
[02:01:36] Build communism yesterday.
[02:01:41] Build Communism yesterday. Do it.
[02:01:55] The American working class does not see themselves as working class. They do not organize around their class position. Okay?
[02:02:05] We do not have the organizational tools to even apply real pressure to the Democratic Party at this point.
[02:02:13] Okay?
[02:02:17] When I ban you, think of it as though I am sending you to the fucking countryside to go and organize the revolutionary masses that have that potential.
[02:02:25] Okay, the American peasant class.
[02:02:28] a lot of you see any movement in the socialist direction and then go okay the
[02:02:41] time is now everyone is everyone is ready they got a fucking copy of the red
[02:02:45] book in their pocket in their chest pocket they're armed they're ready to
[02:02:49] fucking go
[02:02:58] It's so funny that they're doing this at a moment where I'm also criticizing Zoramum
[02:03:06] Dany's endorsement.
[02:03:08] And it's just everyone is like so, so fucking invested in this like idiotic I told you
[02:03:15] so moment with no fucking alternative.
[02:03:20] You have no alternative.
[02:03:23] You've done nothing.
[02:03:24] you think if you fucking chirp in this twitch chat
[02:03:29] that that is your
[02:03:31] absolute fucking best move in the direction of building a proletarian uh...
[02:03:36] uh... proletarian vanguard
[02:03:38] it is armed and ready to go on with the with the ideological backing
[02:03:42] of of
[02:03:43] uh... marx's lennon's principles and ready to fucking build
[02:03:47] this revolution overnight
[02:03:49] you are fucking delusional because you don't talk to anyone
[02:03:53] in the fucking real world.
[02:03:55] You do not talk to the average person.
[02:03:57] You do not organize.
[02:03:58] You do not see the normal person
[02:04:00] and how they still at this, in this day and age,
[02:04:04] how they fucking operate
[02:04:06] when they hear about socialism or communism, okay?
[02:04:15] You have direct access, Zoran.
[02:04:16] We do not, I'm sure you understand what the argument is.
[02:04:18] You're just assuming people
[02:04:19] aren't doing the work in the real world.
[02:04:20] No, dumbass.
[02:04:21] If they're doing the fucking work in the real world, they wouldn't be in here chirping.
[02:04:24] That's the point I'm making.
[02:04:26] Okay.
[02:04:28] Because if they were doing the work in the real world, they would have already
[02:04:30] seen how people react to socialism still to this fucking day.
[02:04:34] It's not there yet.
[02:04:42] Having said that, this is still a bad decision from Zoramumdani.
[02:04:46] The reason why I consider this to be a bad decision by Zoran Mamdani, here let's just fucking listen to the article.
[02:04:53] Zoran Mamdani. Why I am endorsing Kathy Hatchel by Zoran Mamdani.
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[02:05:05] Neural campaign. It is the foundation of my administration.
[02:05:10] It is also what Governor Kathy Hatchel said as we celebrated an agreement to deliver universal
[02:05:16] child care, one of the largest expansions of the social safety net in our city's history.
[02:05:21] It is as consequential a policy victory as our movement has seen in quite some time.
[02:05:26] A burden of more than $22,500 lifted.
[02:05:30] The difference between whether or not a family can stay in the city they love with the
[02:05:34] children they want to raise.
[02:05:36] It was made possible by the nearly 100,000 volunteers who talked to millions of New Yorkers
[02:05:40] at their doors.
[02:05:41] But it would not have happened just eight days into our administration.
[02:05:46] Without Governor Hatchel moving to provide more than $1 billion in state funding.
[02:05:51] We delivered this historic win together, together we have fought to protect New Yorkers
[02:05:55] from ICE.
[02:05:56] Together we have defended our party our democracy.
[02:05:59] And the ability of working New Yorkers to raise a family in the city they love.
[02:06:04] And together, we have forged a new era in the relationship between Albany and City Hall
[02:06:09] after too many years defined by pettiness instead of productivity.
[02:06:13] At a moment of crisis, we chose a different path.
[02:06:16] We respected one another's perspectives and committed to the idea that government should
[02:06:21] and must work even when it is hard.
[02:06:24] The governor and I do not agree on everything.
[02:06:26] We have real differences, particularly when it comes to taxation of the wealthiest.
[02:06:31] moment defined by profound income inequality. I continue to believe that the wealthiest among
[02:06:37] us can afford to pay just a little bit more. But for too long, our politics has been defined
[02:06:42] by a familiar cycle. Big promises, bitter fights and little tangible progress. This
[02:06:48] stagnation has taken a toll. People are struggling to afford childcare housing and
[02:06:52] public transit. They are tired of being told to wait while they are crushed by
[02:06:56] by an affordability crisis that drives out the very people who built this city.
[02:07:02] Basically the calculation here for Zoran is, do I actually lean in? Do I actually lean into
[02:07:09] Delgado, who is not a safe pick? Or do I stand by with a governor that I've already been
[02:07:17] able to work with, that I've already gotten something done with, and hope that she
[02:07:22] will maintain her interest in defending the Zoran agenda. Okay, defending the left agenda.
[02:07:39] I think this is not the, I don't think this is a smart move. There is no guarantee that
[02:07:44] Kathy Hockel will, once she actually secures power once again, when the election is over
[02:07:50] and wins is going to actually turn around and do anything for Zoran and that if she doesn't
[02:07:57] do that, Zoran will just fucking fall flat on his face.
[02:08:00] Hoco is an opportunist and Delgado is an opportunist, but Hoco is an opportunist who is much more
[02:08:04] likely to win and who he has to work with at least through the next year.
[02:08:08] If he didn't back her, he would have to put up a hostile relationship for at least
[02:08:11] a year and most likely his whole term.
[02:08:14] Maybe you question the timing though.
[02:08:16] That's precisely what I'm questioning, because if you want to fucking secure leverage, you
[02:08:21] need to get more assurances from Kathy Hockel rather than immediately going in.
[02:08:26] If you take your sweet time in your endorsement of Kathy Hockel, what you can at least do
[02:08:32] is apply more pressure through Delgado.
[02:08:36] The pragmatic solution here is to see where Delgado goes.
[02:08:44] of cutting the wind off of Delgado's sails with the incredible momentum that the DSA
[02:08:54] slate has in these elections.
[02:09:00] The appropriate and smart choice, the Machiavellian choice in this moment would once again still
[02:09:06] be to wait and fucking see.
[02:09:14] It's not like Delgado is the socialist candidate, right?
[02:09:18] And that Zoran is like choosing Huckle over the socialist candidate.
[02:09:30] What I'm frustrated by from my position is this.
[02:09:37] I want to be fucking radically transparent, radically honest in this moment, okay?
[02:09:44] This is much easier for me to sit around and just be like Zoran is my guy, he's doing the
[02:09:49] right thing, he's doing the best thing and just glaze him, okay?
[02:09:54] But I have to be fucking honest here.
[02:09:57] What I worry about as someone who is not only indoors Zoran and has said like he's
[02:10:01] the real deal over and over again, my hopes, my dreams for Zoran Mamdani is that he
[02:10:08] utilizes the Democratic Party to build socialism.
[02:10:13] that he doesn't become a person that utilizes the DSA as a door knocking operation to build
[02:10:21] the Zoran brand and build the Democratic Party. Okay? These sorts of initiatives make me question
[02:10:32] whether or not he is building socialism or if he's just simply building the base of support
[02:10:38] for the Democratic Party. The goal here should not be to build the brand reputation of the
[02:10:44] Democratic Party as the Democrats are doing everything in their fucking power to attack
[02:10:49] the left-ranked candidates over and over again. That's it. My expectation is not for
[02:11:06] Zoram-Amdani to do like pie-in-the-sky idealism either.
[02:11:11] At the end of the day,
[02:11:14] if it became clear that Cathy Hochul
[02:11:16] was going to absolutely fucking win,
[02:11:19] then of course Zoram should endorse Cathy Hochul.
[02:11:23] But every moment up until that endorsement
[02:11:27] is an opportunity to secure more concessions, okay?
[02:11:32] That's it.
[02:11:36] The Sonya act is if we have yet to build a revolutionary vanguard but I and my comrades
[02:11:44] have already seized an American military base in Munishisakpila, Wyoming and are currently
[02:11:48] marching on the nearby nuclear launch silo in order to put the fear of nuclear fire
[02:11:52] in the hearts of the global capitals class, let's go.
[02:11:56] Let's fucking go.
[02:12:03] If Zoran waits in this moment, he can take advantage of Delgado putting pressure on Hocho
[02:12:10] to assume more left-wing positions.
[02:12:14] And yes, I do think Zoran Mamdani has that level of political capital.
[02:12:20] Yes, yes, yes, I do.
[02:12:23] Yes, I do.
[02:12:25] 100%.
[02:12:27] I don't know if it's the insecurity that he feels like he's too green, like he doesn't
[02:12:32] have the fucking momentum behind him maybe he doesn't recognize it but he does
[02:12:37] have it okay he does he has it I don't fucking believe Hochill without like an
[02:12:51] appropriate shellacking is actually going to to lean into a Zora and out of
[02:12:56] the kindness of her fucking heart it's just not gonna happen it has never
[02:12:59] happened, okay? Even if you don't trust Delgado, and that is part of the reason, that is part
[02:13:13] of this like quote unquote betrayal. Doing this emits a massive nurse strike where 15,000
[02:13:26] nurses in New York City. One got arrested yesterday for their participation in the in the work
[02:13:32] stoppage at a time when Ho-Chul is also extending the emergency in an effort to continue not
[02:13:39] leaning into the demands being made by the fucking nurses. Like doing this in this very
[02:13:44] moment is like unimaginably bad from even new even from the perspective of like New
[02:13:49] York politics, pro-labor politics in the fucking state of New York in the city
[02:13:54] of New York, okay? A lot of you that want to lean into this are doing so because you like
[02:14:02] Zoran and I like Zoran, I love Zoran, okay? But the reason why I like Zoran is because
[02:14:19] He's supposed to be fucking brave. He's supposed to be a representative of a different type of politics, not one that forcibly revitalizes the image of the Democratic Party, but the one that forces the Democratic Party to reckon with his position, a socialist position.
[02:14:45] Okay.
[02:14:49] The goal of the burning crats must not be to defend the sanctity and the viability of the
[02:14:58] Democratic Party.
[02:15:00] The goal of the Democrats, the left flank Democrats, the burning crats should be to advance the
[02:15:08] agenda, okay?
[02:15:12] by force, by pure raw grassroots power, whether that agenda be universal pre-K, universal childcare,
[02:15:23] or whether that agenda be a wealth tax on some of the wealthiest individuals in New York
[02:15:27] City, we must not shy away from bullying establishment Democrats. It's not just about
[02:15:37] winning elections. It's about how you legislate beyond the elections, which is part of the
[02:15:42] reason why I wanted to come out here to New York City to show that Zoran's momentum as
[02:15:48] a competent administrator to show that leftists are not these pie-in-the-sky idealists that
[02:16:03] They're silly and they get cast aside when they actually win power, but actually do deliver
[02:16:09] on the promises that they make and fight to achieve their agenda, okay?
[02:16:20] Here's a DSA nurse that is striking in a tough spot.
[02:16:23] Mayor and support Trevor, a nursing student in New York City DSA, and Breton Roses, who's
[02:16:26] helping coordinate strike support, told the call that there were, Zaddy, please save
[02:16:30] us signs as Sinai West, when Zoran came to speak or given Zoran's endorsement of Hocal,
[02:16:35] he says it's going to be whiplash for a lot of rank and file now that it's clear that
[02:16:38] that won't happen.
[02:16:39] Trevor laments that the timing of this could not be more embarrassing to our movement.
[02:16:43] Zoran is in every ad for DSA on Instagram.
[02:16:45] I don't know how I can proudly tell nurses on the line that I'm a DSA member.
[02:16:49] In the Labour movement we have the saying, which side are you on?
[02:16:52] Zoran chose wrong.
[02:17:00] even the Brooklyn Democrats retracted their endorsement of Hocal over her running mate
[02:17:15] pig pointed Zoran's endorsement was unreasonably early and folded under zero pressure from
[02:17:19] local orgs. It doesn't end there. Because some people might be making the calculation that
[02:17:30] Zora Mamdani is doing this because he's singularly focused on delivering the affordability agenda
[02:17:35] in New York. But this is not even good for being singularly focused on delivering the
[02:17:39] affordability agenda in New York. Because out of the five point plan, he only secured
[02:17:46] very early on universal pre-k
[02:17:51] the point is zara momdani must not be another bill de blasio
[02:17:57] the point is our momdani is supposed to be a socialist a democratic socialist
[02:18:04] is campaign that he's running on
[02:18:07] and modest expansion of already existing social safety nets
[02:18:11] you know, fixing some of the issues within New York public transit.
[02:18:17] But the most ambitious aspect of is otherwise still modest social democratic agenda is the wealthy tax, tax on the super wealthy in New York City.
[02:18:30] That's the most consequential part of his policymaking, especially when there's a fucking huge budget shortfall that he has to deal with as a consequence of Eric Adams's ineptitude.
[02:18:41] or rank corruption. Let's be real. It's not even an aptitude.
[02:18:53] Bill de Blasio fought with the governor too much.
[02:18:56] Bill de Blasio did not have the same motion that Zoram-Mamdani had.
[02:19:01] That's the difference.
[02:19:03] And Kathy Hochel is not Andrew Cuomo, a dynastic name
[02:19:09] that time and time again aligned with the New York Republicans in an effort to
[02:19:15] solidify his position of prominence in the fucking New York State legislature.
[02:19:24] Kathy Hockel is much weaker, especially with an election coming up, than Andrew
[02:19:31] Cuomo ever was. Zoran Mamdani is much more popular than Bill de Blasio ever
[02:19:36] was. The leverage is on the side of Zoran. The chips are in his hands. That's it.
[02:19:50] It sucks because I know that the the social Democrat position in this is to
[02:19:57] just shut the fuck up and say this is a good idea. Oh everything that Zoran is
[02:20:02] doing is good let him cook that's what people want me to say I know for a fact
[02:20:07] that plenty of people will go oh here we go again Hassan is not happy with
[02:20:12] anything that anybody ever does but I am talking about strategy and I hope you guys
[02:20:19] can understand that my expectation is not there's our mom Donnie lead the
[02:20:23] revolutionary vanguard okay this is purely strategic and it doesn't end
[02:20:30] their AOC's endorsement of Hocal basically destroys any sort of pressure point that Hocal
[02:20:37] would have to withstand and make campaign promises on.
[02:20:47] It makes no sense.
[02:20:49] An opportunity to attach yourself to his star power and enthusiastic base of young left
[02:20:55] of center supporters.
[02:20:57] Political reporter Marcia Cramer is here now with more.
[02:20:59] Marcia.
[02:21:00] It's clear from the way Kathy Hockel has structured the rollout of her campaign for re-election
[02:21:04] that she's hoping to appeal to both progressives and more middle-of-the-road voters, balancing
[02:21:09] her choice of a more moderate running mate in Adrian Adams with the endorsement of
[02:21:13] Mayor Mamdani.
[02:21:15] This is an endorsement that reflects a sincere belief in the partnership that we have been
[02:21:22] building.
[02:21:23] Mayor Mamdani explaining his decision to back Kathy Hockel's re-election after
[02:21:27] where he formally endorsed her in a long essay in the nation.
[02:21:30] He played up the fact that even people from opposing wings of the party can forge a fruitful
[02:21:35] working relationship.
[02:21:37] The governor and I do not agree on everything.
[02:21:39] We have real differences, particularly when it comes to taxation of the wealthiest,
[02:21:43] Mom Bownie said, adding that we must be able to disagree honestly while still delivering
[02:21:48] for the people we serve.
[02:21:50] Over the past six months, Governor Hoco and I have done exactly that.
[02:21:54] endorsement came as Kathy Huckle was appearing in Syracuse with her newly selected running mate,
[02:21:59] former city council speaker A. J. Adams, giving her the ability to corral the yin and the yang of the
[02:22:04] party. The worst part about it is that the dual ticket here for Delgado comes with India Walton,
[02:22:15] who is the DSA choice who was the Zoram Mamdani before Zoram Mamdani ever existed. India Walton,
[02:22:20] who I've obviously met at the Zoramumdani election victory party was the famous socialist
[02:22:26] mayor that won the Buffalo, that won the Buffalo mayoral primary, who then the entire state
[02:22:34] Democratic Party apparatus came, came down on with a fucking last second right in candidacy
[02:22:42] for the establishment Democrat who was the incumbent, who then literally, who then
[02:22:49] literally fucking one with the right in candidacy in the general and then left the position
[02:22:55] after selling off rights to a fucking casino.
[02:23:02] A lot of you are probably unfamiliar with the history of the New York BSA.
[02:23:12] Byron Brown won back the incumbency with a writing candidate, yeah, writing candidacy
[02:23:20] after he lost the primary to Buffalo, the Buffalo primary to India Walton.
[02:23:28] Okay.
[02:23:31] Walter is Delgato's Lieutenant Governor on the on the pick is progressive base and
[02:23:49] the more moderate outer borough supporters of Adams this job is not about
[02:23:54] our egos it is not it is about how we put our own desires and ambitions aside
[02:24:00] and put the people of this great state, 20 million people who look to us every day to
[02:24:04] help them get out of their circumstances. You put that first.
[02:24:07] But Republicans immediately tried to turn the coveted endorsement against her, labeling
[02:24:12] Mamdani, quote, an anti-Semitic communist who stands against everything America stands
[02:24:17] for. State Party spokesman David Laska added, quote, what new taxes and radical
[02:24:22] proposals did Cathy Huckle promise our Mamdani in exchange for his support. Law professor
[02:24:28] J. C. Polanco says it's now up to expected Republican nominee Bruce
[02:24:31] Blakeman to pick a running mate that creates an exciting ticket for his
[02:24:35] party. And I'm not here to give advice to Bruce Blakeman, but you have to play
[02:24:39] chess here. Governor Huckle is playing chess. She understands the map. She's from
[02:24:43] Western New York. She picked someone from Queens, a woman, first black woman,
[02:24:48] Speaker of the City Council who's a centrist. Your job now, County
[02:24:51] Executive Blakeman, is how can you compete with that?
[02:24:55] and jc polanco suggested a few possible republican running mates
[02:24:59] including former council minority leader joe bro
[02:25:02] i wonder if mom donnie's betting on the fact that delgado can win without his
[02:25:05] endorsement no delgado
[02:25:07] it was not a fucking
[02:25:08] delgado was a long shot even with zoran's endorsement
[02:25:12] i still believe that it's like aoc and the bernie crats
[02:25:16] and and uh...
[02:25:18] zoran mom donnie back delgado he would have at least had a shot of
[02:25:21] unseating kathy huckle
[02:25:23] is just that they didn't want to fight that fight it's very obvious
[02:25:27] that they're playing really scared
[02:25:31] they're moving
[02:25:32] not like uh... a unit that has all the fucking momentum
[02:25:37] but they're moving as though
[02:25:39] they don't want
[02:25:40] any sort of any sort of blemish
[02:25:43] on the agenda okay
[02:25:47] that's it
[02:25:48] that's it they don't want to fight any fights
[02:25:53] It's the same principle behind cutting Chiose out from ever running against Hakim Jeffries.
[02:26:04] And even if there was more, like even if the argument, even if it was a more understandable argument from Zoran Mamdani at that point, for that specific, that specific disruptive
[02:26:21] candidacy by Chiose, this one is, in my opinion, even crazier than that, okay?
[02:26:30] And I did not like the timing of that, like anti-endorsement against Chiose
[02:26:35] from the start, and I was very open about my criticisms then, but this is
[02:26:40] even worse than that, in my opinion.
[02:26:51] If Huckle had run with India Walton, what would that look like?
[02:26:56] I mean, that would never happen because from not mistaken, someone was saying in the chat
[02:26:59] that Huckle's husband was in opposition to India Walton and Huckle herself was in opposition
[02:27:04] to India Walton and Huckle's husband is like a beneficiary of the casino corporation that
[02:27:12] Brian Byron, the incumbent in Buffalo, ended up working for and maintained his position of power
[02:27:22] as the Buffalo Mayor specifically so that he could offer favorable contracts to the casino
[02:27:26] that he ended up going, that he ended up resigning and going to work for by the way.
[02:27:42] Hoku herself refused to endorse Walton for mayor when she won her primary in Buffalo. She lost because of an establishment organized writing campaign. I know I talked about it already.
[02:27:52] There was no good option here. Delgado is not better than Hoku and has damaged credibility in Albany. Hoku sucks, but is currently in power and no matter who said what is more likely to win. We don't know what happened behind closed doors. I think he's earned at least some charitable but the leash is short.
[02:28:07] short. Yeah. Um, I, I, I think the, the most, the most fucked up aspect of this is the timing.
[02:28:17] Okay. That's it. Adam Carlson says, I genuinely can't envision a path of victory for Antonio Delgado
[02:28:23] at this point. Before this, there was a slight chance he could harness progressive lefty anger
[02:28:27] at Hochill for not taxing the rich, et cetera. Things that got tested with mom Donnie, but
[02:28:31] now it feels like the door is officially closed. This, in my opinion, this kills the taxing,
[02:28:36] the wealthy momentum. That's why I'm frustrated. Okay. I'm frustrated for three different major
[02:28:43] reasons. Number one, this, in my opinion, makes, uh, uh, launching the, the most important aspect
[02:28:51] of Zoran's agenda way, way more fucking difficult. Okay. That's number one. It makes taxing
[02:28:58] the wealthy harder. Okay. Because there is no more leverage and no more pressure point
[02:29:05] to apply on Hochill to literally come out and say she's on board with this. Okay. Buying
[02:29:13] goodwill is not going to be enough for people like this when their primary purpose is the
[02:29:17] rat fuck the likes of Zoran and everybody else. That's number one. Okay. You don't win
[02:29:23] power by getting a good natured closed door handshake agreement. You win power by
[02:29:30] forcing these guys to concede on those positions publicly. And there's never been a moment
[02:29:35] where she said she's down for this. Okay? Number two, if you're supposed to be the face
[02:29:42] of a movement, if you're supposed to be the movement guy, your job shouldn't be to build
[02:29:45] the Democratic Party's prestige. Okay? Your job is to create more opportunities to apply
[02:29:52] pressure on the Democratic Party by winning additional seats for people who are more
[02:29:57] or a client for people who are going to be your loyal servants, your loyal soldiers in positions of power.
[02:30:04] This means getting allies elected. This means sometimes fucking fighting against the establishment candidates.
[02:30:19] And last but not least.
[02:30:20] Okay, but when does Zoran save as the face of the movement?
[02:30:28] Okay dude, what the fuck kind of argument is this?
[02:30:34] What the fuck kind of argument is this?
[02:30:38] You think Zoran Mamdani ran to just be the mayor?
[02:30:40] Is that what you think?
[02:30:42] Really?
[02:30:44] If that was the case, why didn't he run like Brad Lander?
[02:30:48] He could have easily fucking skirted by, by being more dynamic and younger than Brad Lander.
[02:30:54] And he would have been fine.
[02:31:00] There's a reason why, he won and not Brad Lander.
[02:31:06] Okay?
[02:31:09] the governor.
[02:31:18] Being a good mayor does a lot more for the movement than picking a fight with the governor.
[02:31:20] You're not picking a fight with the governor.
[02:31:22] You're forcing the governor to reckon with the amount of motion that you fucking have.
[02:31:37] I disagree with you, Zoran's endorsement or non endorsement or even delay timing doesn't really pressure
[02:31:40] uh Hoco on the tax on the wealth. Zoran's a smart guy, why do we always assume our electives are being
[02:31:45] fleas? What actually will pressure our on tax increases DSA winning all eight of our elections
[02:31:49] in the New York DSA slate? They're gonna meet on Sunday. Zoran's approval rating will help them get elected.
[02:31:55] Chatter, that's a totally separate thing, okay?
[02:32:01] Jesus fucking Christ.
[02:32:02] Those two things align with one another. Obviously you know where I stand on this,
[02:32:11] considering that you know the fact that I assume you're a New York DSA person, okay?
[02:32:16] I'm gonna be fucking doing the DSA slate on Sunday! Jesus fucking Christ!
[02:32:23] Listen, I like when you have a charismatic figure who is making unilateral decisions.
[02:32:40] Okay.
[02:32:41] I don't like that the New York DSA does not have any sort of like punishment mechanism
[02:32:45] or a protocol to keep electeds in check.
[02:32:49] They don't.
[02:32:50] That's just the case.
[02:32:51] They don't.
[02:32:52] actually do like that people make unilateral decisions because unfortunately our movement
[02:32:58] is disorganized, okay? And although I'm not a part of New York DSA, I'm saying our movement,
[02:33:04] okay? That's it. Having said that, when someone is making unilateral decisions, I wish that
[02:33:14] they would be making unilateral decisions that actually apply more pressure to the
[02:33:20] people in positions of power and have more confidence in their momentum and more confidence
[02:33:24] in their fucking movement rather than one that they predict will make things easier for
[02:33:31] them to govern as a mayor.
[02:33:33] Zaramamdani is not just a fucking mayor.
[02:33:36] Okay?
[02:33:37] He's not.
[02:33:38] There's a reason why he is an internationally known figure now.
[02:33:44] You're talking about this like Zahran didn't understand the strategy here and was
[02:33:50] just incompetent he knew which is why the sucks much i know
[02:34:02] do you want the dsa to be a fucking door knocking operation for electives that
[02:34:06] make a prominent
[02:34:08] uh... become like prominent national and sometimes international figures
[02:34:12] or do you want this to be at the the beginnings of a of a robust socialist or
[02:34:17] organizational movement. Which one is it? What do you want? If you want to keep
[02:34:23] door knocking for candidates then yeah great this is awesome. He's gonna fucking
[02:34:27] kill as the mayor and then maybe down the line there will be more people that
[02:34:32] will vote as a vote for Democratic Socialists and then once those
[02:34:36] Democratic Socialists are elected you know they'll do their very best to
[02:34:41] highlight and identify and defend non-socialist electeds who are actually a stop-cap measure
[02:34:50] for more socialists being elected or even socialist policy being implemented.
[02:35:09] As he waits a year for wins, he's definitely going the de Blasio way, strategy here is
[02:35:12] definitely right, Delgado is no less opportunistic and Hocho has a lot of power to help her
[02:35:16] Zoran immediately.
[02:35:18] He can alienate her and get nothing done for a year and then maybe have an ally, but
[02:35:21] maybe not two ways to miss Delgado being risky or he can go with the person who
[02:35:25] seems game to make him their opportunity and take it from there.
[02:35:30] Oh.
[02:35:34] There is no reason in my opinion, this is a miscalculation and there is no reason
[02:35:39] into fucking endorse this early in my opinion.
[02:35:53] This whole conversation is just this.
[02:35:55] This ARF in the New Yorker really sparked a lot of debate
[02:35:57] and I wanna know what you think about.
[02:35:59] Is it right?
[02:36:02] We are assigning a role to Zoran he never set out to have.
[02:36:04] That's not true.
[02:36:05] That's not true.
[02:36:06] You're wrong about that.
[02:36:08] Okay, you're wrong
[02:36:09] He's focused on New York City. He will never prioritize a national movement over that
[02:36:12] I think it's been clear in his politics since he started running
[02:36:14] But a lot of people have thought of him as something bigger than he sees himself as it sucks
[02:36:19] But I don't think you should be surprising. No, that's literally not true
[02:36:23] You're not right. You're wrong. Okay, that's it
[02:36:28] That was the case. He would be fucking he would be and I don't have look
[02:36:33] He would be anti Zionist Brad Lander if that was the case
[02:36:36] Okay? You're wrong. New York City politics has always had national implications. Even when it was
[02:36:54] fucking Eric Adams it was even more transparent than New York City politics was supposed to
[02:36:59] have national implications because the Democratic Party was you know really pumping Eric Adams
[02:37:04] as like the face of the movement. The reason why Zoran has international implications is
[02:37:14] because of who he is and what he represents. Anyone that says that that's not the case
[02:37:22] is is missing the forest with the fucking trees.
[02:37:45] Was your general take on the Hoechul endorsement?
[02:37:47] Like I understand the calculation that he's making, I think it's wrong.
[02:37:50] That's it.
[02:37:52] Especially what the time calls for what today calls for it's not like I'm saying you know
[02:38:03] build communism now build communism tomorrow but these kinds of moves are in my opinion
[02:38:10] short-sighted.
[02:38:13] It offers more defense for the Democratic Party establishment Democrats in particular
[02:38:19] because you assume that they're going to be plying because you're playing ball with them,
[02:38:24] then it does winning that power by making pressure stick.
[02:38:35] Those of us in trust with the sacred oath of service must heed that call and work together
[02:38:39] to honor it. That requires not the absence of discerning, but the presence of trust. We must
[02:38:42] able to disagree honestly while still delivering for people that we serve. Well, that's what I
[02:38:45] I think too, about my criticisms of Zoramum Dhani here.
[02:38:51] Over the past six months, Governor Hockel
[02:38:52] and I have done exactly that.
[02:38:54] This experience matters because the challenges ahead
[02:38:56] are real, New York City faces budget hardships
[02:38:58] and affordability crisis that rages on
[02:39:00] and an urgent need for government to deliver.
[02:39:01] The temptation is to allow difference
[02:39:03] to turn into distrust.
[02:39:04] But over the course of our relationship,
[02:39:06] I have come to trust Governor Hockel
[02:39:08] as someone willing to engage in an honest dialogue
[02:39:10] that leaves the results.
[02:39:11] Okay. As we face threats from Washington, she has defended our social safety net and
[02:39:19] protected funding from critical infrastructure projects. At its best, the Democratic Party
[02:39:23] has been a big tent, not because it avoids conflict, but because it channels conflict
[02:39:26] towards progress. A party united by conformity, but by commitment to structural change.
[02:39:36] And so the work required to achieve it. I've seen a model for what the, that can
[02:39:39] look like with my collaboration with Gov. Hochel, a relationship built on candor, a
[02:39:43] shared commitment to a government that is equal parts competent and trustworthy, and
[02:39:48] results that working people can feel in their day-to-day lives. The success of our movement
[02:39:52] will be defined by the success of our government. New Yorkers deserve leaders who believe in
[02:39:55] that transformation, leaders who understand that hope is inspired by a vision and sustained
[02:39:58] by change. Gov. Kathy Hochel has earned my endorsement because she has chosen
[02:40:02] to govern in that spirit, and in this moment that choice matters.
[02:40:09] Can you clarify that if you're more upset by the timing of this endorsement and not holding
[02:40:21] out for more conditions or just endorsing Kathy in general? Yes. Yes. It's the timing
[02:40:27] of this endorsement in my opinion that is the massive mistake because given how Delgado
[02:40:33] moved, right, given how Delgado moved, even the protective endorsement should come much
[02:40:39] later down the line, okay?
[02:40:54] Where do you get the idea that Zara sees himself as a movement leader and has aspirations of
[02:40:58] being a national figure?
[02:41:00] Oh
[02:41:10] I think whether or not he sees himself as that which I do think he sees himself as that it doesn't fuck a matter. He is that. Okay
[02:41:18] OK?
[02:41:22] Zara was an advocate for the 1-2-3-4 plan in New York City, which didn't pass back in
[02:41:25] the day.
[02:41:26] He absolutely has a vision for DSA, but there are so many contradictions that he has to
[02:41:29] face now with executive power.
[02:41:30] If we're being honest, the campaign went better than expected.
[02:41:33] I don't think there was a clear plan on how to actually govern as a socialist without
[02:41:35] a legislative mandate.
[02:41:43] especially considering a tit for tat measure here.
[02:41:49] The reality of the matter is considering how all of these figures that he is now sitting around and defending unconditionally took their sweetest time to fucking defend Zoran or endorse Zoran.
[02:42:00] He has every opportunity to wait.
[02:42:01] Okay.
[02:42:02] That's it.
[02:42:03] I don't give a shit.
[02:42:13] Okay, say Huckle you're saying
[02:42:16] you're wrong. Yeah, I don't give
[02:42:17] a shit.
[02:42:25] Now this in and of itself is
[02:42:26] not me like pulling out the
[02:42:28] fucking ripcord and be like
[02:42:30] fucks or on he's compromise is
[02:42:32] a lot more room for disagreement with, you know, electives that are closest to me ideologically
[02:42:39] than many chatters do. Let's be real. That's why they call me the fucking sheepdog of the
[02:42:44] Democratic Party around these parts and say that I'm actually in opposition to real
[02:42:51] revolutionary politics in this country. Okay. Same goes for Bernard Sanders. Same goes for AOC
[02:42:58] and same goes for Zoram Omdani. Okay? No one calls you that Lamount? No, the fucking, the
[02:43:08] real revolutionary figures in my chat who have actually overtaken, who have actually overtaken
[02:43:14] forward operating bases in the United States of America that are ready to build the peasant
[02:43:20] revolution, the present rebellion in the United States of America are in the fucking
[02:43:24] trenches armed with AK-47s they're they're ready to storm they're ready to
[02:43:30] storm the fucking barracks okay they're ready to storm the barracks armed with a
[02:43:35] copy of the fucking red book on one hand and an AK-47 on the other okay and I'm
[02:43:41] holding them back and I'm telling them please vote blue no matter who obviously
[02:43:47] The reason why they say that is because I take this approach where I am, I guess, much
[02:43:58] more forgiving to socialists and, you know, social democrat electeds than, you know, random
[02:44:08] fucking youtubers are in general.
[02:44:11] They think I'm doing that because I want to boost my fucking profile, boost my platform
[02:44:15] in the national front and only care about, I'm only self-interested. I do it because once again,
[02:44:24] I do it because I think that there is a pathway to build real change in this fucking country's
[02:44:29] politics, a country's politics that is at least aware or at least factors in its analysis,
[02:44:38] How fucking reactionary the average working class person is.
[02:44:43] Okay.
[02:44:49] Oh, all I ask for clear explanation on seemingly counterproductive
[02:44:53] decisions. He owes that to his base. I'm not in New York City,
[02:44:55] DSA, but I am DSA and this just doesn't make any sense,
[02:44:57] especially considering how galvanizing fighting for policies
[02:44:59] and principles that were already elected in the office
[02:45:01] can be. Yeah, Zaram, I'm downy one. Not because he
[02:45:05] moderated. Zoram Umdani won because he stood strong and proud on specifically his anti-Israel
[02:45:13] position for example. Another area that he has seemingly not fully conceded on but certainly
[02:45:22] has tried to play ball with like these people who will never actually never actually feel satiated
[02:45:27] by his, uh, by his like, uh, you know, I'm combating anti-semitism position.
[02:45:35] I'm sure Zohar recognized the position as a new face of American socialism.
[02:45:38] I just think he'll prioritize it over what he sees as accomplishing internal
[02:45:41] city politics.
[02:45:41] Now that's something we can criticize them on, but I think that's his perspective.
[02:45:44] Yeah.
[02:45:45] I don't know if you noticed this, but my criticisms have also not only been
[02:45:48] about him being a movement guy or the face of a movement, but also a guy
[02:45:54] who could do both at the same time by holding out on his fucking endorsement of Cathy Hockel.
[02:46:00] Do you notice that I said that it's the timing of this endorsement? It's not that like he would
[02:46:04] ever endorse Cathy Hockel. It's the fact that he endorsed Cathy Hockel early on without seeing
[02:46:10] whichever way the winds would blow with Delgado.
[02:46:14] Do you notice that that was my main point of contention here, especially considering
[02:46:27] that a huckle endorsement could come down the line, especially if it was very obvious that
[02:46:34] Delgado had no fucking path towards winning.
[02:46:37] He could utilize the DSA to keep pumping Delgado, to keep door knocking for Delgado,
[02:46:43] keep pump of Delgado and see how he decides when it's a little bit fucking
[02:46:50] closer because I think in the absence of his endorsement of Kathy Huckle, there is
[02:46:55] a real room for unseeding Kathy Huckle with a much more pliant Delgado, okay?
[02:47:01] And if that's not happening, if there was no opportunity for Delgado, then he
[02:47:05] fucking says, hey, I'm endorsing Kathy Huckle. We've had, we've had a great
[02:47:10] back and forth so far, very productive so far. Kathy Huckle has the same
[02:47:13] fucking vision for the future of the Democrats that I do, you know? That's it. On the one
[02:47:20] hand, you can't celebrate his arm on Donnie's upset victory in the New York primaries, in
[02:47:25] New York mayoral primaries and then be like, well, there's no other options. Now it's time
[02:47:28] to play safe. You're being fucking ridiculous. It's the exact same energy. My commentary
[02:47:34] on the issue is is for nothing if you also are playing scared okay my commentary on this
[02:47:49] issue is irrelevant is utterly irrelevant if we are going to then justify playing scared
[02:47:56] Scared money don't make no money, okay?
[02:48:05] Anyway, now we're going to switch gears and I'm going to talk to
[02:48:08] Don LeMond
[02:48:11] and newly minted folk hero Don LeMond about his arrest
[02:48:15] and numerous other things that are going on.
[02:48:20] Okay,
[02:48:22] But let me finish this off real quick and I gotta go pee real quick as well.
[02:48:28] Oh, and Brooklyn Councilman Ida Bernicke personally, I think he needs to pick a mom because Hocal is laying thin to running on a two mom ticket.
[02:48:37] So guys, both of your moms are very interested.
[02:48:39] Oh, no, thank you.
[02:48:40] No, no, no, no, no.
[02:48:41] Politics, not our mom too.
[02:48:43] Exactly.
[02:48:45] Yeah, but you know what? We'll see what the next chess move is, right?
[02:48:49] We will.
[02:48:50] Thank you Marsha. Across this country, day after day, we bear witness to cruelty that
[02:48:58] staggers the conscience. Mast agents, paid by our own tax dollars, violate the Constitution
[02:49:06] and visit terror upon our neighbors. They arrive as if atop a pale horse, and they leave a
[02:49:12] path of wreckage in their wake. People ripped from their cars, guns drawn against the
[02:49:18] arms families torn apart lives shattered quietly swiftly brutally if these are not attacks
[02:49:28] upon the stranger among us what is this cruelty is no far away concept ice opera god he's a
[02:49:37] fucking his team is so solid by the way even the fucking nation article is so well written
[02:49:43] I mean, I just, it makes me extra upset because I feel like it literally is going to waste
[02:49:51] for Cathy Hockel this early on.
[02:49:53] You know what I mean?
[02:49:57] Squashing the B with Dallam on.
[02:49:59] Yeah, that's what I'm gonna be doing right now.
[02:50:02] Hold on.
[02:50:03] Let me get in here.
[02:50:04] the studio hold on boom boom boom wait fuck the virtual camera has like all
[02:50:21] this shit hold on program default no no no no no I'm gonna go with a scene no I'm
[02:50:32] go with source. Okay, boom. All right, virtual camera, stream input is chat input. No, that's
[02:50:45] not it. Microphone. Hello, hello, hello. Allow while visiting the site. Your browser can't
[02:50:57] Access your devices wait what the fuck hello hello
[02:51:02] Wait, I just allowed it. Why isn't it fucking letting me access the devices enter the studio one more time? Let's see if it works
[02:51:09] Hopefully it'll work. Uh-oh
[02:51:13] Browser can't access your devices close any applications that might be using your camera mic wait what the fuck is the virtual camera
[02:51:20] Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. Oh Jesus Christ. We are so cooked
[02:51:27] Stream them put, maybe? Nope, that's not working.
[02:51:32] Oh, fuck.
[02:51:37] Obvious virtual camera.
[02:51:42] March help, there's nothing March can do, shut the fuck up.
[02:51:45] Shut the fuck up.
[02:51:47] I'm on Chrome, and it's not Zoom.
[02:51:50] Is it control R that refreshes like, fully, hopefully?
[02:51:57] No, I'm refreshing the browser and it's not working. Hold on. I'm going to restart it entirely.
[02:52:04] Hopefully this time it'll work because if not, we are fucking cooked. Okay.
[02:52:11] I'm turning off the browser. Okay. Control shift R. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Nope, it's not doing it. God damn it.
[02:52:22] I want to let me fucking access the brow I already gave permissions to Google Chrome
[02:52:35] click the gear icon on the left of the URL in Chrome you can adjust settings that allow
[02:52:38] your mic and cam I did that already I did that already
[02:52:45] Wait what?
[02:52:53] Auto fill performance maybe?
[02:52:58] You might need to cut stream set it up and then redo stream, I can't do that.
[02:53:05] Click on right click on the page and press inspect then you can control shift R I already
[02:53:08] did that.
[02:53:11] of
[02:53:18] the
[02:53:23] Check settings microphone. Use steam browser. Let's see, I'm going to try something crazy
[02:53:49] here.
[02:54:19] No, it didn't work.
[02:54:43] Fuck!
[02:54:47] It's not letting me, it's not letting me turn on the camera and it's not letting me unmute.
[02:54:51] Okay, this is not good at all.
[02:54:53] I am fucked!
[02:54:59] God damn it, what the hell, man?
[02:55:01] What the freaking hell?
[02:55:05] Oh, no.
[02:55:09] Oh, I'm so mad.
[02:55:10] I'm so fucking mad.
[02:55:11] I'm so goddamn mad right now.
[02:55:13] How is this, this stream yard shit's not working.
[02:55:16] Is there like a zoom option here?
[02:55:36] not letting me use my King cam even when I turn off OBS and single source it to
[02:55:48] stream yard. Quit discord? Wait that might be a that might be an option here
[02:55:59] let's see let's quit discord let's try one more time no it's not even letting me
[02:56:15] use the microphone dude it's fucking nuts like I don't want to leak the
[02:56:22] address of the, of the, it's not even letting me use the microphone chat. Like, it's, it's
[02:56:31] totally cooked. Hold on, I'm going to turn off everything one more time. And then hopefully
[02:56:38] It works this time
[02:56:48] Well
[02:56:53] Maybe I can try without the microphone and shit
[02:57:01] God damn it why the fuck sent a link in mod chat
[02:57:08] Yeah, it's not is the mics don't work in and the speakers nothing works
[02:57:22] Yeah, I see it I turned on I turned off discord and I turn it back on and still
[02:57:28] like the browser permissions are supposed to work I gave it the browser permissions and
[02:57:34] They are seemingly not working for some reason
[02:57:38] Sites can use the camera, customize behaviors, camera allow, microphone allow, notifications
[02:58:06] as default all this shit. Yeah I have all the permissions unlocked, but it's not letting
[02:58:17] me do it. Um, can you try downloading the app instead? Wait is there an app download?
[02:58:31] Turn off your cam in OBS, you don't have to end stream, delete the cam as a source
[02:58:34] something captured from whatever you're conducting call was saying with the mic. Yeah, yeah,
[02:58:39] I mean it's not working like I if you want to try go ahead but even the fact that it
[02:58:44] won't let you unmute the microphone I gave it all the permissions right wait hold on
[02:58:48] let me reload one more time maybe this will work randomly. Yeah see, look, all right.
[02:58:57] Okay, have you done streaming out before?
[02:59:00] I have not, but I'm sure.
[02:59:01] Is this page back up?
[02:59:15] All right.
[02:59:18] I don't know how it's not working.
[02:59:22] Where's the third?
[02:59:27] Yeah, but then I don't have the fucking yeah, it's not giving any permission even though
[02:59:40] I gave it to I did all of that okay hold on hold on let me but where is the there's
[02:59:56] a stream yard app potentially that I can use. Let's see if I can download the
[03:00:12] stream yard app. No there isn't I lied my bad bro. Fuck.
[03:00:19] Okay, well, then we're fucked turn off your cam and OBS. I mean, but then it doesn't matter.
[03:00:30] I turned off my OBS before and it still didn't allow me to use the StreamYard application.
[03:00:37] Like I literally, I hit the OBS. I did everything. I reset everything chatter. Oni spamoni.
[03:00:44] I reset everything. I put BRB. I turned off discord. I turned off fucking
[03:00:51] Like I tried all that shit
[03:00:56] Try a different browser do I have a different browser Internet Explorer? I guess Microsoft Edge fuck
[03:01:11] Let's see
[03:01:14] Yeah, your browser can't access your devices, I give it all of the permissions and it won't
[03:01:23] wait hold on, wait hold on, wait let's see, no see okay
[03:01:34] Okay. No, it's not. Yeah, it's the same shit. Hello. Hello. Oh, but this is what happened
[03:01:55] before. This is what happened before. Hold on. Audio side. Wait, maybe it worked. Hold
[03:02:01] Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[03:02:03] Hello, hello, hello.
[03:02:04] No, see, Rode Unify, it's just like it won't do it.
[03:02:09] It won't do default, Rode Unify,
[03:02:11] stream input, chat input, Rode Unify.
[03:02:13] Hello, hello, hello.
[03:02:14] No, no, it's not working.
[03:02:17] Digital audio interface, stream input, Rode Unify,
[03:02:20] communications chat input, Rode Unify.
[03:02:23] Yeah, see?
[03:02:25] Yeah, see, now neither are working.
[03:02:27] This exact same thing happened last time.
[03:02:30] This exact same thing happened last time.
[03:02:31] I don't know why.
[03:02:33] It's like, it's not complying at all.
[03:02:38] Like it works for a one second
[03:02:40] and then it fucking gets cooked.
[03:02:49] Let's see.
[03:02:51] Oh God, Microsoft, it's just so ass.
[03:02:58] Fucking into the internet works better.
[03:03:00] I don't know the link in the mantra, but it's a Hail Mary. See, it's like it looks
[03:03:03] like it's supposed to be working, but, but the mic is literally refusing to pick up.
[03:03:18] Like this. Yeah, it's going to sound like shit. Yeah.
[03:03:22] But I don't want it to sound like shit, you know?
[03:03:26] I mean, I can do it like this.
[03:03:27] And they need to be called out very plain and very simply.
[03:03:32] Okay.
[03:03:33] So I am joined by some esteemed guests.
[03:03:35] I'm so happy to have Hassan Pikers here as a political commentator,
[03:03:39] a content creator who live streams daily on Twitch and on YouTube.
[03:03:43] And I am a huge fan and I can only learn from his greatness here in the
[03:03:47] streaming world. Also joining us is Akilah Hughes.
[03:03:50] She's a writer, a comedian and a host of the rebel spirit podcast.
[03:03:53] And then a little bit later on Godfrey is going to join us,
[03:03:55] comedian, an actor, a dear friend of the Dom Newman show. After that, Katie Fang is
[03:03:59] going to join us. She's an attorney, a legal analyst and the host of the Katie Fang show
[03:04:03] right here on YouTube. Charles Coleman is an MSNBC legal analyst, former prosecutor
[03:04:07] and the civil rights attorney. We'll join us in a bit. And Navarro is a host of The
[03:04:10] View. She's going to be on Sonny Hostin. A host of The View will be on as well.
[03:04:15] So thank you for joining. You have been sitting patiently, Akilah. Hassan, you
[03:04:23] have been sitting here patiently. I've had a lot of technical issues. Sorry. That's okay.
[03:04:30] So, Akila, this is there's no debating what this is. Yeah, this is explicit racism. I
[03:04:37] don't think that it's even a new form of racism. It's actually kind of the oldest American
[03:04:41] racism is comparing black people to apes and monkeys. So I really appreciate you
[03:04:48] saying we're not going to split hairs on whether it's racist or not because it's
[03:04:51] a waste of everyone's fucking time. It's racist. Somebody said hello in the comments. Hi. But
[03:04:57] I think what really struck me was how lazy Caroline Levitt's lie was today. Like saying
[03:05:04] it's a frame from The Lion King when The Lion King for a very long time, most of my life
[03:05:09] was the highest grossing animated film. I don't know a single soul who hasn't seen
[03:05:13] it. We all know that there aren't gorillas in it and there certainly aren't palm
[03:05:16] trees that look like that. It's just so stupid. And she, you know, really boasts about being
[03:05:23] a young mother and being pregnant and having a kid on the way. And I'm like, well, do you
[03:05:27] watch the movies your kids are watching? Because this is the most popular animated
[03:05:30] film, you know, before Frozen. And I guess most recently, Zootopia 2. So I think it's
[03:05:36] like actually damning to come up with a very lazy lie, which also like to your
[03:05:42] point makes it easy for the president to undermine her and say, well, it's just another person
[03:05:47] who works here without naming that person, without calling for them to be fired, without
[03:05:52] a real apology, just more of the same.
[03:05:55] And so I think especially in Black History Month, it's like a real slap in the face
[03:05:59] to black people in this country.
[03:06:01] But you know, it's just more of the same from this racist administration.
[03:06:05] Hasan, what do you say?
[03:06:09] I mean, I think as the as the white guy on the panel, it's probably not my place to say this, but I have this theory of
[03:06:18] permissible racism
[03:06:20] that the broad majorities of white people who might share racialized animus
[03:06:26] might consider to be like somewhat permissible because anti-blackness is baked into every orifice of American society and
[03:06:33] There are a couple things that you can't you can't touch, right?
[03:06:37] There's a couple of things that when you do it even other races white people will go
[03:06:42] Oh, that's a little bit too much for me
[03:06:44] And I feel like obviously the most the classic example of this is is perhaps best demonstrated by Lee at water famous
[03:06:51] Republican strategist Lee at water that said you can't say the n-word anymore after the
[03:06:55] After the civil rights movement so you'd like find different ways of
[03:06:59] analogizing the n-word by
[03:07:01] Attacking black people from the point of welfare claiming that black people are welfare queens things like that that Ronald Reagan did
[03:07:07] And this is the, like we all know that Donald Trump is racist.
[03:07:13] We all know that he is deeply invested in anti-blackness as a primary part of his politics.
[03:07:19] I mean, this is the same person that took out a full page ad in the New York Times to
[03:07:25] demand the execution of the Central Park Five.
[03:07:27] This is a person whose family was prosecuted by the federal government for refusing to
[03:07:34] rent out their properties to black people.
[03:07:37] So we already knew this, and yet the Republicans are acting as though they're shocked now because
[03:07:45] he has finally touched on this untouchable position where he is depicting Barack and
[03:07:57] Michelle Obama as apes, is completely unacceptable.
[03:08:01] But I think it should maybe hopefully serve as a wake-up call for a lot of Americans who
[03:08:06] are still questioning whether or not he's raised by. I think at this point, we all know, like I mean,
[03:08:09] he is, I mean, he's been calling. He ran and campaigned on saying that Haitians were eating cats
[03:08:15] and dogs, which I thought would have been a turning point or a wake up call for many Americas
[03:08:19] ago. Wait a minute. You're, you're talking about a bunch of, of black immigrants that have
[03:08:24] temporary protective status that you gave them actually living in Springfield, Ohio, boosting
[03:08:29] the economy of Springfield, Ohio. And you're just saying that they're eating, you're,
[03:08:33] you're using incredibly racialized narratives about black people in that regard. You've said
[03:08:39] Somalis are a parasitic force that must be forcibly excised from the country, even though 95% of
[03:08:45] Somalis are American citizens. So there is no anti-immigrant advocacy there. There is no ice
[03:08:52] action that is justified at all in that circumstance. These are all very clear demonstrations of
[03:09:00] of anti-blackness that is, I think, foundational to the Republican Party's politics. And this
[03:09:06] is completely indefensible even by other racists.
[03:09:10] Well, Hassan, this is also the party of even black people who and brown people who say
[03:09:17] that, you know, there is no racism or systemic racism in America, right?
[03:09:23] Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's just this is a big part of the Republican strategy
[03:09:29] is to deny the very real racial wrongs that have been committed in this country on the
[03:09:37] basis of blackness, like directly on the basis of blackness. And the solution, of course,
[03:09:42] is also going to be on the basis of blackness as well. And yet any kind of recognition of
[03:09:47] this historic wrong is considered to be the real racism, or what they love to say
[03:09:53] is reverse racism.
[03:09:55] Right. Yeah. I want to bring in now Katie Fang. Katie Fang is an attorney legal analyst and the host of the Katie Fang show
[03:10:03] Right here on YouTube Katie. Thank you very much for joining us when you saw this
[03:10:08] I mean you have we've got three folks and your Hassan said he's the white guy, but Hassan
[03:10:13] You know, he's not like the he's not the white guy white guy
[03:10:17] I think you guys, I would be happy to speak to you.
[03:10:19] He's not exactly hairy, but...
[03:10:20] He's not...
[03:10:21] Yeah, he is.
[03:10:22] He's not inry, but it's all right.
[03:10:25] And this is a pretty...
[03:10:26] This is a diverse panel of people who come from backgrounds that are not part of a larger
[03:10:31] culture.
[03:10:32] So, I would say when you saw this, I was, you know, I wasn't shocked, I was a bit
[03:10:38] surprised that he did it, but not shocked.
[03:10:40] But that's the problem, isn't it?
[03:10:41] The fact that we...
[03:10:43] Well, not us, right?
[03:10:45] Because we give a shit and we still care.
[03:10:47] But a lot of people shrug their shoulders these days and are like, oh, it's Donald Trump.
[03:10:51] He's just doing it.
[03:10:52] That type of numbness, that kind of permissive, like, oh, he gets the pass because we all
[03:10:59] know he's a racist.
[03:11:00] Let's move on with our day.
[03:11:01] That's what's wrong right now.
[03:11:03] That kind of window of what they call the Overton window.
[03:11:07] I think that's the phrase, right?
[03:11:08] This idea of normalcy has now been shifted so fucking far away from what is decent
[03:11:14] that there are several of us that were,
[03:11:16] I was getting shipped today because people were like,
[03:11:18] well, you know, there's other stuff going on.
[03:11:20] I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[03:11:22] This frames the way that everything is rolling out
[03:11:25] in this country these days.
[03:11:26] I had an amazing conversation
[03:11:27] with our good friend, Daniel Ludi today,
[03:11:30] and she calls it the economy of racism.
[03:11:32] And she's right, right?
[03:11:33] Because if you look at it,
[03:11:35] racism is a part of everything
[03:11:37] that's what Hassan said, right?
[03:11:38] It is so imbued in the DNA
[03:11:40] of what is happening in this country right now
[03:11:42] that we look at this and it's horrific
[03:11:44] And Caroline Levitt can give this like half-assed explanation
[03:11:49] and defense of it.
[03:11:50] And then, are we just supposed to move on in the news cycle
[03:11:53] when they blame some unidentified staffer?
[03:11:55] Who, by the way, they didn't say was fired.
[03:11:57] They didn't say that they were sorry that this person hijacked
[03:12:00] a truth social account, which Trump himself says that only him
[03:12:03] and Dan Scavino have access to, right?
[03:12:06] Like, come on, we're not idiots.
[03:12:08] But when you do this and you just allow it to move on
[03:12:12] in the news cycle, I'm grateful
[03:12:14] that we're continuing to talk about it today and on your show, Don, because I do feel like
[03:12:19] it has become so ingrained in what we anticipate and expect that I think people are now just
[03:12:25] kind of letting it go and we should never let it go.
[03:12:28] So look, you mentioned Donald Trump saying that only he and Dan Scavino have access
[03:12:33] to the account.
[03:12:34] This is him saying it, and then I want the rest of the folks to weigh in because
[03:12:37] there's a timeline here.
[03:12:38] And I don't think it would be that hard to figure out who it is considering Donald
[03:12:41] Trump said this.
[03:12:42] Here it is.
[03:12:43] You know, it started off with Dan Scobino.
[03:12:45] I said, Dan, how do you work this thing?
[03:12:48] And I started dictating.
[03:12:49] I started, I began by dictating to Dan
[03:12:52] and a couple of other people that we had,
[03:12:54] but they weren't Dan.
[03:12:55] And I'd dictate something, I'd dictate something.
[03:12:58] All of a sudden people started following.
[03:13:00] And then on occasion, like about once every three years,
[03:13:02] Dan wouldn't be around because he was over.
[03:13:04] I couldn't get rid of this guy.
[03:13:06] I call him the most powerful man in politics
[03:13:08] because he's the only one that has my number.
[03:13:11] He could say, I don't like you, voters, I don't like you at all, I'm fed up with you,
[03:13:15] I can't stand you, and that's the end of my political career.
[03:13:19] Dan's the only one that can do that.
[03:13:21] Where are you, Dan?
[03:13:23] Who's a powerful man in politics, I'd say.
[03:13:28] Why is some low levels?
[03:13:30] He can press it, even Linda doesn't have it, although I give it to you, I trust
[03:13:35] you implicitly, I give it to you.
[03:13:37] But Dan could say something horrible.
[03:13:39] could say something very sexually oriented. And that you know would end it, okay? That
[03:13:45] would end it. But he hasn't done that and he won't do it.
[03:13:50] I saw your face, Akilah. The thing is, is that he's telling him, there's always a video
[03:13:54] with these folks, right? Yeah. I mean, it started in the very beginning with the grabbing by
[03:13:58] the pussy video. And that was locker room talk. But every time they say something,
[03:14:02] every accusation is a confession. Finally, what he said did happen. It wasn't sexual.
[03:14:07] just turns out to be racist or at least a little bit more racist than the stuff
[03:14:10] that he posts on a daily basis. But I don't know, is this even the most racist
[03:14:14] thing that he's posted? Akila, I saw your face when he was talking.
[03:14:19] I mean, that's the thing. Like the fact that we can have a list of most
[03:14:22] racist things said by a president is ridiculous. I don't know another
[03:14:26] president that I could do that for and be like confident that I have 10,
[03:14:29] maybe Ronald Reagan, but at least he was smart enough to code it.
[03:14:33] Like this is just blatant racism. I think what shocks me about this entire situation is just how
[03:14:40] they're really relying on the idea that people are so horrible these days, that they would allow
[03:14:46] this to go unchecked, that people will just continue on. I mean, I love the Olympics, the
[03:14:53] opening ceremony for the Winter Olympics just happened, and I was like, wow, what a celebration
[03:14:57] of humanity across the globe. And I, this for the first time I think in my life, watching
[03:15:03] T.M.U.S.A. come out, who I am rooting for, I was just like, I feel bad for them. Like
[03:15:08] it sucks that this is what they have to represent. And I wish that Dan Scavino would
[03:15:12] just end Donald Trump's career already. If he has that power, use the power to end.
[03:15:17] I don't know if it's, I mean, if this ends his career, because I think that
[03:15:20] even the Republicans that will play some of it or show some of it, they are,
[03:15:24] There are more than normal, they're denouncing it, but I don't know if the MAGA base even
[03:15:29] really cares about this because, you know, I don't think if you even, I said, what, I
[03:15:34] told my team, what's next, the N word, and would they even care about the N word?
[03:15:39] No, they would not care.
[03:15:40] No, I don't think they would, but let's be real, I think like, um, in the absence
[03:15:44] of any sort of real material change that Donald Trump said he was going to bring,
[03:15:48] uh... right because he ran on
[03:15:50] and and one on
[03:15:52] uh... a historic unpopularity around the economy right there were a lot of
[03:15:57] people who were frustrated with the way things were going
[03:16:00] uh... the experience that a year and a half of uh... negative real wage growth
[03:16:03] under
[03:16:04] joe biden
[03:16:05] and they never forgot about that and they wanted to
[03:16:08] uh... they wanted to i guess
[03:16:10] that paired up with uh... the the racialized animus
[03:16:13] uh... want to vote for donald trump once again
[03:16:16] and now that he's not delivering on that agenda the only thing he can do
[03:16:21] uh... weaponize ice as a gestapo force on blue cities
[03:16:24] uh... punish democratic leadership all around the country in any way shape or
[03:16:28] form you can
[03:16:29] and really beef up the the white nativist anti uh... migrant strategy and
[03:16:33] also engage in
[03:16:35] uh... uh... on the varnish
[03:16:37] vulgar
[03:16:38] uh... white supremacist sentiment like this so there is an expectation from
[03:16:41] the base that he does this but it's a
[03:16:44] it's uh... i guess the the uh...
[03:16:46] the advantage here the silver lining here if you can even find one
[03:16:49] is that uh... that base of support is diminishing it's like around twenty
[03:16:54] percent i would say of the
[03:16:55] diehard ultra maga loyalists that want this uh... i like to call it vice
[03:16:59] signaling from the president because they have nothing else to look forward
[03:17:03] to
[03:17:03] so they want it like they want to groups of people to look down upon
[03:17:07] uh... that famous lbj quote comes to mind
[03:17:10] right
[03:17:11] uh... and
[03:17:12] And that's precisely the only thing
[03:17:14] that these people are clinging on to.
[03:17:17] So I say, I mean, let go of that 20% base that
[03:17:21] is purely reactionary and try to focus
[03:17:24] on organizing around the rest of the country with the 80%,
[03:17:28] specifically around issues that pertain
[03:17:30] to their material realities, and hopefully launch
[03:17:33] a stronger opposition against Donald Trump
[03:17:35] to the best of our ability, and continue engaging
[03:17:37] in community defense.
[03:17:40] To that point about his supporters, Hasan, often you're a better man than I because I
[03:17:44] often see you on these panels fighting with these people and I just can't do it.
[03:17:48] But you're connected to the folks in the Manisphere and you have people like Andrew
[03:17:53] Schultz who are now saying, oh, you know, this is awful and he's tramping on the Constitution
[03:17:59] or shitting on it or whatever, wiping someone's, wiping his, you know what, I'm paraphrasing
[03:18:04] here, but there's a quote kind of like that.
[03:18:06] they know? And how is this playing in the Manusphere today? Because I haven't had a chance to check it out.
[03:18:11] I think there's two different angles on the Manusphere side. Obviously the expected result of
[03:18:18] Donald Trump's popularity waning has caused a lot of people who weren't like super die-hard invested
[03:18:23] in the ideological movement that he represents to pull out. Because for some of them it's just
[03:18:28] clout, right? They were like, oh, Donald Trump represents clout. I get clicks. I get a lot of
[03:18:32] eyeballs, I get a lot of attention, that's good. I'm also privileged enough not to care if he wins,
[03:18:38] right? And they're, they're reconsidering that calculation now that he's unpopular.
[03:18:43] There are also some who were, I guess, somewhat apolitical or present themselves apolitical,
[03:18:48] even though they're clearly not. And, and one of the things that I've seen,
[03:18:53] at least in the Manisphere side of things, has been Donald Trump's dealings with Israel,
[03:18:58] in particular, that has actually caused a big fissure. For some, it has actually led to a
[03:19:06] momentum behind anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic tendencies as well. But for many others, there
[03:19:12] were people who falsely believed in his anti-war narratives that they thought that there were
[03:19:18] people, at least among the podcaster base, they're like, oh, he would represent a change
[03:19:23] of attitude from the previous administrations and actually move in the anti-war direction.
[03:19:27] Now, I personally thought that that was silly from the beginning because I was there when
[03:19:32] Donald Trump was president for the first four years of his presidency when he very clearly
[03:19:36] wasn't the anti-war president at all.
[03:19:39] And as a matter of fact, I think Joe Biden actually presented before October 7 a truer
[03:19:44] path towards being the anti-war candidate when he pulled out of Afghanistan, which
[03:19:48] was objectively a courageous thing to do, even though he was endlessly bullied for
[03:19:54] that perspective that he maintained.
[03:19:57] So do I think that this actually is, do I think that this is actually like a real change
[03:20:03] in attitude?
[03:20:04] No, I think it's more reflective of the base actually moving away, the independence moving
[03:20:07] away.
[03:20:08] The people that took a shot in the dark at Donald Trump who were privileged enough to
[03:20:12] believe that Donald Trump could represent this seismic shift in establishment politics
[03:20:19] who are, who very quickly recognize that he is not representing this change at all.
[03:20:24] who thought maybe if he deports enough undocumented migrants, the criminal undocumented migrants
[03:20:30] as Donald Trump presented it, which was built around the lie to begin with, but that's a
[03:20:34] whole different story that the economy would improve. Now that the economy is not improving,
[03:20:40] they're realizing, okay, well, this is the same old business as usual politics and
[03:20:43] also more chaotic than at least the stability to a certain degree that the Democrats
[03:20:48] offered. So they're recalculating. And I think that the podcasters are responding
[03:20:54] to that change in attitude from the base of support.
[03:20:57] Yeah, I'm just wondering, have we heard anything from the Obama's?
[03:21:01] I don't think the Obama's have responded to this.
[03:21:03] And I don't think the Clintons or anybody else has responded to this.
[03:21:07] But democratic leadership now, they're responding now.
[03:21:11] I want to play this.
[03:21:13] Let me just play it and then we'll see.
[03:21:15] This is the minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries.
[03:21:21] This disgusting video posted by the so-called president was done intentionally for Donald
[03:21:27] Trump and his vile, racist, and malignant behavior.
[03:21:33] This guy is an unhinged bottom feeder.
[03:21:38] President Obama and Michelle Obama are brilliant, caring, and patriotic Americans.
[03:21:43] They represent the best of this country.
[03:21:48] It's time for John Thone, Mike Johnson, and Republicans to denounce this serial fraud
[03:21:53] stuff, who's sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, pretending to be the President of the
[03:21:59] United States.
[03:22:00] All right.
[03:22:01] There you go.
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[03:24:38] women. Thank you so much to our sponsors back now to the panel. Hakeem Jeffries out here dropping
[03:24:43] F bonds. The biggest reaction from that was Hassan Piker assigned you first and then the rest
[03:24:48] of the group. I've been the app in too much. I think the the lemon heads that heard too much
[03:24:53] for me, but I'll just say, look, I want, I want Hakeem Jeffries to fight back against
[03:24:59] Donald Trump. Hopefully this will be a pivotal point in what I would rank as a somewhat weaker
[03:25:12] leadership role that Hakeem Jeffries has taken on in the, in the oppositional framework
[03:25:17] that he's supposed to be advancing. So this, hopefully this lights a little bit more
[03:25:21] fire under him and he leads into the momentum that's coming from the base of the Democratic
[03:25:28] Party where a lot of Democratic Party voters want Hakim Jeffries and Chuck Schumer to fight
[03:25:34] back in more aggressive ways.
[03:25:36] Yeah, I believe that the momentum, as you say, and that the energy and the folks are
[03:25:41] animated on the progressive side of the party and they need to wake up and recognize
[03:25:45] that.
[03:25:46] Akila, what do you say?
[03:25:47] I mean, hey, Hakim Jeffries, I think I've ever heard the man say a curse word.
[03:25:51] I know. I mean, I'm kind of excited that Donald Trump is the moderate position now.
[03:25:56] If we can move the over to window in that direction, that's pretty good.
[03:26:00] But I will also say, like, there's just something so polished about, you know,
[03:26:06] the representatives from the DNC and the hands and the gestures that it feels to, like,
[03:26:11] he's still delivering the speech. So I don't know.
[03:26:13] In a jacket, in the park.
[03:26:15] Yeah, in a park, which feels like he just got out of a car to get it.
[03:26:18] and he's going to get out of the car.
[03:26:20] But so that's the thing, it's like, I guess,
[03:26:23] like for the people it's supposed to play to,
[03:26:25] who are probably his donors.
[03:26:27] You know, I'm glad that he actually said something.
[03:26:29] That's worthwhile to me.
[03:26:31] I just think that like the internet is so far beyond
[03:26:34] that delivery method that it's like, okay,
[03:26:36] well, he did his thing and we'll take it from here.
[03:26:38] We're on the Dowlum and show.
[03:26:40] I'll say it, but Donald Trump, he's a racist.
[03:26:44] Katie, thanks, Sam, but I just want to bring someone
[03:26:46] in, Anna Navarro is here.
[03:26:47] Anna Nebarro is a host of the view and a co-host of the view
[03:26:50] and one of my dearest friends in the whole world.
[03:26:53] Anna, thank you so much for joining us.
[03:26:56] Give two seconds, I just want Katie to weigh in
[03:26:58] on the F-bomb and then we're gonna get Anna in.
[03:27:00] I like what we wore, Don.
[03:27:02] I don't even wanna...
[03:27:03] I mean, I'm sorry, I can end it with...
[03:27:11] Wait, I did not hear that.
[03:27:13] Are you muted?
[03:27:14] What did you say?
[03:27:15] Am I muted?
[03:27:16] It will be the first time in my music.
[03:27:19] Am I muted?
[03:27:20] No, I think you need to get closer to the microphone,
[03:27:22] but go ahead.
[03:27:22] I said that I loved where this thing was ending.
[03:27:25] I don't think I need to do anything else.
[03:27:27] I can just sit here and hear Akilah go,
[03:27:30] say this over and over again.
[03:27:33] Yeah.
[03:27:34] So I'm grateful for the passion.
[03:27:37] It seemed a little bit,
[03:27:39] a little bit forced to Akilah's point.
[03:27:41] What I would have loved to have heard though
[03:27:43] was a little bit less outrage about the racism
[03:27:47] and a little bit matching outrage about the lies
[03:27:51] that were a part of the bigger post.
[03:27:53] I mean, coming on the heels of them
[03:27:55] raiding Fulton County last week,
[03:27:57] coming on the heels of Steve Bannon and Caroline Levitt
[03:28:00] saying expect to ice at the polls in November.
[03:28:02] The fact that the video was being used
[03:28:06] to let people think that 2020 was a stolen election
[03:28:09] and that there's something defective
[03:28:10] about our voting machines is a real problem.
[03:28:14] And so in some ways,
[03:28:15] it was a pretty smart delivery vehicle for Donald Trump.
[03:28:20] It forces, a lot of people will go and watch that video.
[03:28:23] They'll see the bullshit and lies
[03:28:25] and the conspiracy about a stolen election
[03:28:27] and about machines that have been hijacked
[03:28:29] to give the election to Joe Biden in 2020.
[03:28:33] And then they'll also get their rocks off
[03:28:35] by watching a racist clip.
[03:28:36] So in some way, maybe this was a part
[03:28:38] of a bigger scheme and a plan
[03:28:40] to be able to satisfy and throw red meat to this base.
[03:28:43] But Don, you know, they probably should kind of walk
[03:28:46] in chew gum at the same time, deal with the racism,
[03:28:48] which we all expect from Donald Trump,
[03:28:50] but also say, don't believe the lies that are coming
[03:28:53] about the stolen election.
[03:28:55] Yeah, Charles, I'm just told by my team
[03:28:57] that you've been back in the green room for about 10 minutes.
[03:29:01] I'm so sorry, I didn't know you were in the green room.
[03:29:03] Charles Coleman is joining as MSNBC legal analyst
[03:29:06] and the former prosecutor and the civil rights attorney.
[03:29:08] Charles, you have been listening to this,
[03:29:11] and I don't know if you saw Hakeem Jeffries,
[03:29:13] but overall, you can talk about that,
[03:29:15] or what you thought when you saw this horrific meme come out,
[03:29:18] and their excuses about it, which make no sense.
[03:29:21] I thank you for bringing me in, Don.
[03:29:23] I have watched everybody cook,
[03:29:25] and so I'm about to get on the stove real quick.
[03:29:30] First things first, I think everyone can agree
[03:29:33] that it literally does not matter
[03:29:35] that this was deleted.
[03:29:37] And so if anyone is combated with that,
[03:29:41] like, oh, well, he deleted it.
[03:29:42] It does not matter because the one thing,
[03:29:44] despite Caroline Levitt's attempt to first blame
[03:29:47] another staffer and then to second,
[03:29:48] or to first sort of downplay the notion of insane,
[03:29:52] that he's king of the jungle.
[03:29:53] And then second to blame a staffer,
[03:29:56] even with the deletion, there's one thing
[03:29:57] that did not occur from this administration
[03:29:59] that should not be surprising.
[03:30:00] There was never an apology
[03:30:01] and there was never an acknowledgement
[03:30:03] of how offensive this actually was
[03:30:05] and how inappropriate it was.
[03:30:07] And so if there's any expectation
[03:30:08] that there was going to be a mea culpa around this,
[03:30:11] you should understand that this is an administration
[03:30:13] and particularly a president who thrives on the notion
[03:30:16] of being defiant in what we in our community say,
[03:30:19] loud and wrong.
[03:30:20] Like it's, and so we have not seen an apology
[03:30:24] and keep that in mind.
[03:30:25] So the fact that it was deleted means absolutely nothing
[03:30:27] because it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
[03:30:29] The second thing that I want to say is
[03:30:32] We have to, at this point, if we haven't already,
[03:30:36] understand that for those people who continue to say,
[03:30:39] this is not America, this is not America,
[03:30:42] this is so un-American,
[03:30:45] this is yet another example that reflects
[03:30:49] that Donald Trump has taken a sledgehammer
[03:30:52] to the American veneer.
[03:30:54] The veneer that has allowed so many people
[03:30:57] to turn a blind eye and maintain the lie
[03:31:00] or the notion that this is not America.
[03:31:03] This is exactly the America that we have been telling people
[03:31:07] exists and has existed since 1776.
[03:31:11] So as we're in our 250th year,
[03:31:14] having a great time in Magalene,
[03:31:17] understand that this is very much so part and parcel
[03:31:21] of America and that this is not America
[03:31:24] because Donald Trump is the president.
[03:31:27] Donald Trump is the president because this is America.
[03:31:31] And I think people need to understand
[03:31:33] the correlation to that as we continue to unravel this.
[03:31:37] And as far as what Donald Trump did,
[03:31:40] obviously it's a porn.
[03:31:41] Obviously it's an aberration.
[03:31:43] Obviously it's offensive.
[03:31:45] But the key is our reaction.
[03:31:49] Hakeem Jeffries, I heard you.
[03:31:52] He's literally my congressman.
[03:31:55] What I want to know is will there be a demand
[03:31:59] at a minimum for formal apology?
[03:32:02] Where, your abdominal Trump energy, where is it going?
[03:32:06] Because I appreciate the fact that this seems
[03:32:10] to have lit a fire under your ass.
[03:32:12] I don't know where that fire has been.
[03:32:14] But ultimately, if I'm going to see you and Democrats
[03:32:19] and Chuck Schumer and Senate Democrats
[03:32:21] As anything other than unserious, in this moment,
[03:32:25] I want to know what you're going to do.
[03:32:27] What are your demands in terms of pushing back
[03:32:31] on the president?
[03:32:32] Because, Don, the most important thing in this moment
[03:32:36] that I submit is not what the president did,
[03:32:39] nor how the White House responded,
[03:32:41] because the White House's response
[03:32:43] was a function of what they saw from the public.
[03:32:45] When Tim Scott comes out and says
[03:32:48] that this is something that is the most racist thing
[03:32:50] that he's seen from this administration.
[03:32:52] Then that says everything you need to know
[03:32:54] about the fact that this administration understood,
[03:32:58] I really missed the mark on this
[03:32:59] in terms of my supporters backing me up.
[03:33:03] And so the deletion has nothing to do here
[03:33:05] in terms of the level of importance.
[03:33:07] It is truly the unrelenting response
[03:33:10] that must come from the public
[03:33:12] because anything less normalizes this in a way
[03:33:16] that gives license not to Donald Trump
[03:33:19] But to all of his acolytes and sickle fans out there
[03:33:22] who would otherwise seek permission
[03:33:24] to further denigrate black people
[03:33:27] and people in America who are not like them.
[03:33:30] And that's what responds in this moment
[03:33:32] is the most is a paramount importance
[03:33:35] and it must be unrealistic.
[03:33:37] Anna?
[03:33:38] You know, so most of the headlines say
[03:33:42] that it was deleted because of the backlash.
[03:33:45] And that might be part of it.
[03:33:47] And if it's backlash, it's a backlash from Republicans.
[03:33:50] I don't think he cares what had King Jeffries,
[03:33:53] what you say, what anybody says,
[03:33:54] other than some Republicans.
[03:33:56] So the fact that Tim Scott, who's been with him
[03:34:00] through a lot, is speaking out,
[03:34:02] the fact that Roger Wicker, okay?
[03:34:05] I mean, that was not on my bingo card,
[03:34:07] calling out racism.
[03:34:09] But let's remember Mississippi has almost 40%
[03:34:12] black population.
[03:34:14] But I think there's something else going on here,
[03:34:16] Let's remember this is an administration who won't apologize or delete tweets and truths calling
[03:34:24] Renee Good and Alex Pretti white domestic terrorists and assassins and what happened.
[03:34:32] I think the reason or one of the reasons the primary reason he took it down is because he
[03:34:36] was supposed to have a really good press day today. They were supposed to come out with
[03:34:40] Trump RS. Anything that has the name Trump, he's always real big on, right? And we were supposed
[03:34:47] to all be happy with Trump today because we were going to be able to get our weight loss shots for
[03:34:51] $500 instead of 1200. And nobody's talking about that because everybody was so shocked
[03:35:00] by that meme and what we saw. I'll tell you what offends me the most about that meme.
[03:35:05] Yeah, everything is pretty horrible seeing, you know, J.B. Britzer portrayed as an elephant and the Obama's and all that, but that lion is looking that lion that Donald Trump says he is, is looking pretty healthy.
[03:35:20] If it's supposed to be done on the lion, that lion could have bruises on its arms, could
[03:35:27] have swollen fat ankles, and should be looking like it could hardly stand up on its forearms.
[03:35:34] Why don't you say how you really feel.
[03:35:38] You mentioned Roger.
[03:35:39] Frankly, the thing that's most surprising to me is that they took it down and that
[03:35:47] some people have spoken up against them.
[03:35:49] And I wonder if it's because I think Minneapolis,
[03:35:53] January in Minneapolis has been such a turning point.
[03:35:57] The thing that gave me the most hope that I heard today
[03:36:00] wasn't Tim Scott, wasn't Roger Wicker,
[03:36:03] wasn't Hakim Jeffries, it was the voter,
[03:36:05] the regular voter who voted for Trump
[03:36:07] who called into C-SPAN and said,
[03:36:10] this that I just say is racist shit.
[03:36:13] And look, we all know that we could sit here the full hour
[03:36:18] of your show and go through racist shit Donald Trump has done,
[03:36:22] starting back in the 70s with the loss of the housing
[03:36:27] department, the exonerated five calling for the death penalty
[03:36:31] for the central part five, Obama, Berther, Scandal.
[03:36:36] I mean, just this week, OK?
[03:36:39] Do you know what level of racist you
[03:36:41] have to be to promote kid rock over bad money.
[03:36:47] You know the level of racism you've
[03:36:49] got to be to pretend that kid rock can actually
[03:36:52] be alternative programming to bad money.
[03:36:57] I mean, so many examples of racism, bad embrace.
[03:37:03] Mexicans are criminals and rapists.
[03:37:05] I mean, over and over and over again.
[03:37:07] And they just refuse to see it.
[03:37:09] So the fact that it's like, you know,
[03:37:11] that moment in the Bible where the scales are coming off
[03:37:15] of Paul's eyes, it is Paul, right?
[03:37:17] I'm getting my Bible reference, right?
[03:37:19] It's like, maybe, maybe there is something to this
[03:37:24] and maybe something has changed
[03:37:26] where people are seeing the lies by this government
[03:37:30] when they try to label somebody,
[03:37:32] a domestic terrorist that we have all seen getting murdered.
[03:37:35] Maybe something has changed,
[03:37:39] certainly not on the strongest of his base,
[03:37:42] but on enough people that it's going to make a difference
[03:37:46] in the upcoming elections.
[03:37:48] Let's go through this because you mentioned Tim Scott's tweet.
[03:37:51] Tim Scott put out this tweet that we'll put back up.
[03:37:54] Tim Scott saying, praying it was fake
[03:37:56] because it's the most racist thing that I've seen
[03:37:59] out of the White House, the president should remove it.
[03:38:00] That was earlier.
[03:38:01] susan collins responded to him
[03:38:04] uh... by saying to me is right that was a polly okay that was very strong
[03:38:08] susan collins whatever is from
[03:38:10] that's all that's all that's all that's actually tim scott to like when he says
[03:38:15] this is the most racist thing he's seen as white house like yes there's truth
[03:38:19] is because it's like
[03:38:20] it leaves no room for doubt what he is doing
[03:38:23] but like
[03:38:24] like i repeatedly said i mean he campaign on saying Haitians reading
[03:38:27] cast and dogs gd fans went on national television said
[03:38:30] sometimes you have to lie about things that get people to pay attention
[03:38:33] uh... like
[03:38:35] i think right now is uh... opportunity to organize to utilize that the anger
[03:38:39] in the resentment that a lot of people feel
[03:38:41] on the ground
[03:38:43] and and realize that if nobody else has us we have one of those backs and and
[03:38:47] on your
[03:38:48] you're on the ground in in minneapolis i'm sure you saw that momentum
[03:38:52] this is not
[03:38:53] just a base of support
[03:38:55] amongst the activists of the democratic party
[03:38:57] That's one of the things that I have seen at least
[03:39:00] in all of my protest coverage,
[03:39:01] that there is a unified front that is building right now
[03:39:05] that is even expressing their discontent
[03:39:08] with the Democrats that will not do the right thing
[03:39:11] and actually hold Trump to account
[03:39:13] and gum up the works of his fascist tyranny
[03:39:17] to the best of their ability.
[03:39:18] So I think like outside of the Susan Collins
[03:39:21] and the Tim Scots expressing their discontent
[03:39:26] Donald Trump on this moment and then going back to voting for his agenda every step of
[03:39:31] the way, I think that this is a real opportunity for once again to push back against this administration
[03:39:38] with our communities and organize at the basis of the community to make sure that we are still
[03:39:44] continuing to protect our neighbors if the administration tries to come back and do the
[03:39:48] same thing that they're continuing to do in Minneapolis right now.
[03:39:51] I also want to stress, hang on one second. I want to ask you, do we have the thing that I that I asked Andy? Yes, we got
[03:39:57] So I want to ask you something I want to play this and then ask you about something that you just said
[03:40:02] This is the call that that Anna mentioned just moments ago. I
[03:40:08] Never registered Republican my dad was the president of American Pipeline's Association. So I came back rather naturally
[03:40:16] naturally. Rodeferb, the president, supported him, but I really want to apologize. I mean,
[03:40:26] looking at this awful picture of the Obama's, what an embarrassment to our country. All
[03:40:35] this man does is tell lies. He is not worthy of the presidency. He takes bribes blatantly,
[03:40:44] Now he's being a racist.
[03:40:46] Blightly, they were supposed to deport the dangerous criminals.
[03:40:51] They were not supposed to go after small children, storm schools,
[03:40:57] bring terror upon, you know, the little kids and the women and children,
[03:41:01] not just the immigrants in the school.
[03:41:04] All the children are scared.
[03:41:07] Um, this is not a decent man.
[03:41:11] This is not an honest man, he openly takes bribes, he's pathetic as a president, and
[03:41:19] I just want to apologize to everybody in the country for supporting this rotten, rotten
[03:41:27] man.
[03:41:28] John, did you vote for him in all three elections?
[03:41:31] I did, I was sucked into the stupidity of creating jobs, and there are no more jobs
[03:41:39] in New Mexico, things are worse than they were before you cannot find a primary care
[03:41:44] physician. Our governor just passed some laws to try to help. If you are a young physician,
[03:41:50] we want you in New Mexico. Come here. There's a great need for you.
[03:41:55] Okay. So you said it's going to take a coalition, right? On the left and progressive.
[03:41:59] And then, but what about, is there enough of that to help change the outcome in 2026 and
[03:42:05] being down the ground. Look, all I'm going to say is this, okay? Uh, a lot of, uh, blue
[03:42:12] ticket, straight ticket Democrat voters have, in my opinion, radicalized, uh, in these, uh,
[03:42:18] in these last couple of months, which is a good thing overall, because they are demanding
[03:42:22] more from their, uh, representatives on the Democratic party front. I apologize if
[03:42:27] you guys are hearing my phone ringing in the hotel room that I'm in currently. Um,
[03:42:30] Um, I believe I have a guest that was supposed to be coming right now, but, um, um, I'll
[03:42:36] tell them to, I'll tell them the way, but the dogs off and bark on this show.
[03:42:41] Yeah.
[03:42:41] But the, but the other point that I was going to make is like that guy's apology is great.
[03:42:46] It makes us feel like, uh, we were, we had the right mindset all along, right?
[03:42:51] But in my opinion, those apologies are hollow if he's not actually standing
[03:42:55] out on the streets alongside his, uh, the rest of his community.
[03:42:58] Okay. I'm not gonna sit here and be like, well, how could you have done this? You voted for him three times
[03:43:04] It's not like he was any different the first time around and he certainly wasn't different the second time around and the third time
[03:43:09] Around it was all the same having said that if this is his turning point if this is his wake-up call
[03:43:15] And he takes this energy from apologies to action, then that's great
[03:43:20] I'm not going to cast aside allies in this fight
[03:43:23] Like, anyone and everyone that will oppose the fascism coming from this administration
[03:43:29] is good by me, you know, but once again, he has to turn this momentum into action in
[03:43:35] my opinion.
[03:43:36] If there are Trump supporters who are watching the show, I doubt it, but you know, you should
[03:43:40] also take heed of what I'm saying here and turn this apology into action.
[03:43:47] Yeah, quickly, because I need to run to somebody.
[03:43:53] I want to get, I have my legends who are on, my members who are coming up, but I love hearing
[03:43:57] from you guys.
[03:43:58] So if you guys have the final words, last parting words for us, please.
[03:44:02] Yeah, respectfully, and I usually don't do this on this platform down, but fuck that
[03:44:05] apology.
[03:44:06] And the reason I say that is because we told folks as much as we could about what
[03:44:13] was in this moment and what was coming.
[03:44:17] And so I don't need you to call anywhere and say how you feel.
[03:44:22] If anything, your apology is your activism, is your organizing, and that leads me to my
[03:44:27] second and last point, which is in this moment about organizing, the one message that I would
[03:44:32] like to send out around coalition building is stop waiting for other people because
[03:44:36] at this point they have not come and they have not shown up, they're not coming.
[03:44:41] And anyone who needs to see something more is not someone who you need to be worried
[03:44:45] about being in coalition with because there's already already been a very wide
[03:44:49] body of evidence showing you everything that you should need to be on the right
[03:44:53] side of right in this moment. Well in this moment I think a lot of people need to
[03:44:57] realize especially those of us who came from cable news this isn't people aren't
[03:45:01] looking for both sides because they know that there's one side is
[03:45:04] objectively awful yeah and I think they're sick of people saying well you
[03:45:08] know this and you got to listen to this and doing panels on you know
[03:45:11] I just think that people, Hasan is right and I've been saying it for a while, the energy
[03:45:17] on the Democratic Party, the energy is on the progressive side.
[03:45:21] People want younger, fresher voices.
[03:45:24] There is nothing wrong with to say that, you know, because you want universal healthcare.
[03:45:27] That's not a left thing.
[03:45:28] That's a human thing.
[03:45:29] To say that you want a living wage for people, they should have a decent minimum
[03:45:32] wage, a decent salary.
[03:45:34] That's not being a lefty.
[03:45:35] That's being a decent human being.
[03:45:37] It should be being a patriot to do all those things.
[03:45:39] So the people who have been promoting that the longest have been, whether you like it
[03:45:43] or not, Bernie Sanders and from Bernie Sanders came AOC and from AOC and others came Mamdani
[03:45:50] and look, look at the people who have the most influence in media.
[03:45:54] If you ask anybody, who would you like to get on?
[03:45:57] AOC?
[03:45:58] Who do you want on your program?
[03:46:00] Bernie?
[03:46:01] Who do you want to hear from?
[03:46:02] Mamdani?
[03:46:03] Because that's what the people want.
[03:46:06] Donald Trump in 2024 did sadly what the left did not do.
[03:46:12] He went where the momentum and where people were animated
[03:46:16] and energized and excited.
[03:46:18] And he electrified a new demographic
[03:46:21] that is now turning against them
[03:46:23] because now they realize that they were hoodwinked.
[03:46:26] That's all I do.
[03:46:27] I got on two really quick things
[03:46:28] because I know we gotta go.
[03:46:29] One, if that guy, that guy sounds like
[03:46:32] he needs affordable care act really badly.
[03:46:34] No shit, right?
[03:46:35] So he's probably feeling that.
[03:46:36] That's why he talks about the physicians in New Mexico.
[03:46:39] And two, if the economy was better,
[03:46:40] triple Trump, a guy would not be calling in a C-Span.
[03:46:43] End of story.
[03:46:44] If the economy was better,
[03:46:45] you wouldn't be seeing the response you're seeing
[03:46:47] across the country with a 36% approval rating
[03:46:50] for Donald Trump, which is the lowest in two terms.
[03:46:52] Sorry.
[03:46:53] I mean, I don't want to burst people's joy bubbles here,
[03:46:55] but...
[03:46:56] Well, you are.
[03:46:57] So let me explain it.
[03:46:59] Let me try to put some air into that joy bubble.
[03:47:01] Look, I'm probably the only person on this panel
[03:47:03] I suspect, who voted Republican all my life until 2016.
[03:47:10] It is very hard to change from your traditions
[03:47:14] and your habit.
[03:47:15] And I will tell you this, you want that guy
[03:47:17] to go out there and organize.
[03:47:19] That guy took the proactive step of picking up a phone
[03:47:27] and calling into a C-SPAN show and has now
[03:47:30] given a testimony that has been amplified a lot
[03:47:35] on social media, on cable channels, on this show,
[03:47:39] and on many other platforms.
[03:47:40] And so I think we need to invite people,
[03:47:43] we need to, we need these people to go with us
[03:47:46] this November.
[03:47:47] So instead of telling them all,
[03:47:49] fuck you all, you voted for him three times,
[03:47:51] it's not nothing you can do and say now is good enough.
[03:47:54] I think we need to say, come back, come in.
[03:47:57] The water is warm and let's be allies
[03:47:59] at least until November 8th, but also, listen,
[03:48:05] I think it's really important that everybody understand
[03:48:07] that everybody has a platform and there's many ways
[03:48:11] to protest and to take action.
[03:48:13] It doesn't necessarily mean being on the streets
[03:48:16] of Minneapolis, even though I respect those people
[03:48:19] enormously, I don't know if my never I want to ask
[03:48:21] to be out there in negative degree weather.
[03:48:24] It's cold in Minneapolis, ask a song.
[03:48:26] It's cold in Miami. I haven't left my house all day.
[03:48:30] So I do think, I know I sound like a little bit of a kumbaya, and that's not my nature.
[03:48:40] But we need these people, and we need to embrace them and amplify these people who are having second thoughts and who are regretting their vote.
[03:48:50] There's a lot here where I live.
[03:48:52] There's a Cuban guy. There's a Cuban guy here who's like a podcaster
[03:48:56] He has got an image of Donald Trump tattooed on his body
[03:49:01] And he's about to get it. He's deported. I saw that guy
[03:49:09] Yeah, he's one of those
[03:49:12] That guy and then and then it's crying
[03:49:15] Go ahead of Kila. I look you can say you want, but I'm asking you guys is
[03:49:19] Is this going to change anything?
[03:49:21] Do you think this is going to change anything with that?
[03:49:24] Listen, things are getting worse, so how will we know?
[03:49:27] I think the trajectory is downward, like the stock market's in the shitter.
[03:49:32] Rich people, poor people, everybody's feeling the lack of opportunity.
[03:49:36] It feels like, you know, recession o'clock.
[03:49:39] So I think that, like, will we be able to pinpoint it to the moment where Donald Trump was racist?
[03:49:43] I mean, it could have started a few months ago if that's the case.
[03:49:47] know for sure. I am really happy that there are people who are willing to invite these people in.
[03:49:52] I expect that guy to vote for Donald Trump in 2028. But I do think we need people like Anna who will
[03:49:58] welcome them in because I can't. I can't do it. I'm very tired and I don't want to talk to them.
[03:50:04] But I'm glad that he picked up the phone because I think, you know, C-SPAN doesn't really get
[03:50:08] like huge hits often. But they do stick like grits when it's like an older person who's like
[03:50:14] a little bit seasoned who clearly has, you know, reluctantly made this phone call to be like,
[03:50:19] all right, finally, I can say it, I was wrong. I'm sure tomorrow he'll feel differently,
[03:50:24] but it felt good today to have that guy say, monkeys is a step too far.
[03:50:30] Don, you're going to give the discount code for that thing to match you with a therapist.
[03:50:35] Can I say something? I know I said a lot, and I'm sure people are tired of hearing from me,
[03:50:41] me, but, um, no, we're not actually like, I've been trying to get you on forever forever.
[03:50:47] And, um, Jen, well, it's something to give you shit about not coming on.
[03:50:50] I know, I'm sorry.
[03:50:52] Um, but, uh, the thing I was going to say is this, uh, there's this calculation that
[03:50:59] takes place every election cycle in the midterms in only in the democratic party.
[03:51:03] By the way, this never happens in the republics.
[03:51:05] What I'm about to say, which is how do we get these races on board?
[03:51:08] Oh, we have to become a little bit more racist.
[03:51:10] Oh, we have to become transphobic. Oh, we have to do this. We have to do that.
[03:51:14] No, we want those voters to come and vote for the Democratic Party or to vote for the most progressive politician that's available.
[03:51:20] We want them to do that.
[03:51:22] But we don't want them to do that by conceding on these ridiculous lines.
[03:51:26] We want them to do that because we're offering something to every American unconditionally.
[03:51:31] Medicare for all is obviously a great example of this because at the end of the day,
[03:51:35] Races need healthcare too. Races need a roof over their heads too.
[03:51:38] And if they have that roof over their heads, and if they have that healthcare,
[03:51:41] maybe it's gonna be a little bit more difficult for them to act out on their racist desires.
[03:51:46] Or even if they don't, it doesn't matter because they voted for the non-racist option or the less racist option in that election.
[03:51:53] So my argument always is,
[03:51:55] instead of trying to bargain with them and instead of trying to concede on these, you know, culture war narratives,
[03:52:00] offer them something to vote for for the first time ever instead of taking a
[03:52:06] defensive position and and and allowing the Republicans to dominate the
[03:52:11] conversation. This was a major issue in the last election cycle as well and I
[03:52:17] really hope that this is a opportunity for restitution from the
[03:52:21] Democrats. I'm specifically talking about the Democrats and what they could
[03:52:25] do in the upcoming election in the in the midterm election and what they
[03:52:29] should be doing already. Because there is a reason for why the Democratic Party's disapproval
[03:52:34] rating is also incredibly, incredibly high right now. There's a tremendous amount of
[03:52:39] discontent towards the Democrats as well, and one must ask the question, why? And I think
[03:52:43] that's because people are frustrated with their inability to address the things that
[03:52:48] Donald Trump is saying and doing, and mount a serious defense against everything that
[03:52:53] Trump is doing, which sometimes means playing hardball, which sometimes means continuing
[03:52:58] the government shut down, for example, when the momentum is in your way, when the momentum
[03:53:02] is on your side.
[03:53:04] It sometimes means playing hardball and not conceding to some of the demands that the
[03:53:10] Trump administration will say yes to, like with respect to ICE, instead of immediately
[03:53:15] launching an opposition towards the base of support that's saying abolish ICE, instead
[03:53:20] of turning around and saying, no, no, no, we're not going to do that.
[03:53:22] The moderate position here is to reform ICE, to say, you know what?
[03:53:26] We should abolish ICE.
[03:53:27] We should go back to the previous standard that we had when the Department of Homeland
[03:53:32] Security did not exist.
[03:53:33] It was a 23-year-old institution in this country.
[03:53:36] We acted as though it was around since the beginning of time, but immigration at the
[03:53:41] end of the day is simply a paperwork violation, and it should not have this incredibly militant
[03:53:46] response that you can go back to the INS and Border Patrol and customs being three
[03:53:53] separate agencies rather than under this like mass state surveillance apparatus that is very
[03:53:59] clearly being used to not only dominate the migrant neighbors, but also American citizens
[03:54:06] as well.
[03:54:07] And then potentially in the upcoming midterms will be utilized against American voters
[03:54:12] as well.
[03:54:13] This is a real fear that I have and I hope that, you know, the Democrats will address
[03:54:16] this before it gets to the point.
[03:54:20] and they don't launch an opposition that is a day late
[03:54:23] and a dollar short.
[03:54:25] Thank you all.
[03:54:26] Thank you, Hassan.
[03:54:27] I appreciate it.
[03:54:28] Thank you all.
[03:54:29] And look, these are the guys,
[03:54:30] I just want to introduce you guys, these are my legends.
[03:54:32] This is when you get to the highest tier
[03:54:33] of the membership here, you get to be on.
[03:54:36] And so legends say hello to the guests.
[03:54:38] They're excited about all of you coming on today.
[03:54:41] And so it is their show after this.
[03:54:44] So thank you all.
[03:54:45] I appreciate it.
[03:54:46] Hassan, Katie, Akilah, Anna,
[03:54:49] And Charles, appreciate y'all so much, okay?
[03:54:53] I'll see you soon.
[03:54:54] And you all better go watch Bad Bunny on Sunday.
[03:54:56] I was just gonna say, Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny.
[03:54:59] Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny, bye guys, bye guys.
[03:55:03] Thank you so much.
[03:55:04] So now we're gonna bring the legends in,
[03:55:06] but first we're gonna get a word in from.
[03:55:09] Okay, that was an interesting experience.
[03:55:13] I hope I was able to, you know,
[03:55:15] soft pedal my my more radical perspective here okay this is the guy that got deported
[03:55:24] yeah the yo voy a votar por donald trump guy right
[03:55:27] Wait.
[03:55:28] Oh my God, I will vote.
[03:55:30] I will vote.
[03:55:31] I will vote.
[03:55:32] I'm going to Trump.
[03:55:33] The people are out of vote.
[03:55:34] No fear no more.
[03:55:35] Vote for Trump.
[03:55:36] Yeah, me, I'm the guy who got deported.
[03:55:37] All right, hold on.
[03:55:38] I got a P. Can someone send me the playlist link one more time?
[03:55:52] I got a P real quick.
[03:55:54] I got to bring up Noah and Brandon of the blowback podcast because they've been waiting
[03:55:59] downstairs. Um, but yeah, is that dancing AI? Nope. That's me. Nope. That's me. Also,
[03:56:09] this is, uh, this has been disabled. There goes the YouTube. Oh, no, that's fine. It's
[03:56:16] for one second. It's all good. All right. All right. All right. All right.
[03:56:20] Mayor Mamdani in here. I'll play this real quick while he and the director of the office to combat anti-semitism
[03:56:26] It comes as the NYPD says Jewish hate crimes surged last month of
[03:56:31] 182% in January compared to the same period last year
[03:56:35] And as Lisa Raza reports Jewish leaders are mixed over whether the new director will actually keep Jewish New Yorkers safer
[03:56:43] Mayor Mamdani has named 39 year old police a wisdom the executive director for the mayor's office to combat anti-semitism
[03:56:50] She most recently served as the president of the Progressive Organization, the New York
[03:56:54] Jewish Agenda, which has criticized Israel's conduct in Gaza.
[03:56:58] She's a member of the Reform Congregation Beth Elohim in Park Slope and the left-wing
[03:57:03] Jews for Racial and Economic Justice.
[03:57:06] I really believe that Felicia will, in good faith, bring people to the table across
[03:57:12] our very diverse community.
[03:57:13] And it's a moment where other voices that have been excluded are also going to be
[03:57:16] included.
[03:57:17] Differing from Mamdani, Wisdom believes in Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.
[03:57:23] But both she and Mamdani oppose defining anti-Semitism through the International Holocaust Remembrance
[03:57:28] Alliance.
[03:57:29] Their definition classifies most forms of anti-Zionism as anti-Semitic.
[03:57:34] We see that a lot of the anti-Semitism happening today is coming from anti-Zionism.
[03:57:38] It's coming from people who are justifying their hate towards Jewish people by blaming
[03:57:42] on what's going on in Israel.
[03:57:44] My hope is that Ms. Wisdom will not take her politics into this office.
[03:57:47] In a statement the Anti-Defamation League said in part,
[03:57:50] we have serious concerns about this office's ability
[03:57:53] to confront all forms of antisemitism
[03:57:55] under its new leadership.
[03:57:57] Some Orthodox Jews are critical over her past work
[03:57:59] with Yafet, a nonprofit that has been outspoken
[03:58:02] over the level of education being taught at some Yeshivas.
[03:58:06] Former controller Brad Lander says
[03:58:07] she's perfect for the role.
[03:58:09] She both loves what New York is
[03:58:13] as a diverse Jewish city,
[03:58:15] she loves that and wants to fight for it. And at the same time, she knows that we keep each other
[03:58:23] safe, making sure that we're working with Muslims, with African-Americans.
[03:58:27] This is a, this is a awesome pick for a very funny reason that a lot of people are oblivious to,
[03:58:35] except for what they just mentioned, which is that she's a Yashiva education reformist,
[03:58:41] Okay, which is 100% the correct position is just really funny because this is our mom Donnie fucking over the
[03:58:51] the the orthodox Jews that voted for him
[03:58:56] Because
[03:58:58] Because that is like a non-starter
[03:59:00] Okay in New York politics like yeshiva education reform is considered a big no-no to brooch
[03:59:07] a big no-no to get invested in, so I mean, it's totally valid for the record.
[03:59:16] It's totally fucking valid to demand this, to want to make this happen. It's
[03:59:22] just funny that Zoram Umdani is doing the classic socialist move here,
[03:59:31] which is forcing literacy rates to improve. Do I know if she's pro-Israel or not? I'm not entirely
[03:59:39] certain on her background. I looked into it when I first found out. I don't know. I hope she is like
[03:59:46] At most like a Brad Lander tight. Oh, hold on. I got my guests here
[04:00:05] Okay
[04:00:07] I don't know. I don't think I have a third pair unless we bring that big one.
[04:00:17] I don't even stay that long. I was like, I was looking to hold on. Let me.
[04:00:27] Brandon Noah's in the building everybody. We got we got the blowback boys in the building.
[04:00:33] should have brought him on during Don Lemon. Yeah, you guys missed the Don Lamont show.
[04:00:38] It was very interesting. I did not know that Anna Navarro was going to be there. Yeah, and
[04:00:47] then he said my yeah. Yeah, that's that's so sick. Yeah, that's that's I mean, what
[04:00:58] you bring me from Cuba? I
[04:01:01] immediately forgot the Josh
[04:01:05] fucked up. I know I curved you. That's fucked up, but I promise you I'll give it
[04:01:10] you. Okay, all right. Oh no, let me like move
[04:01:15] this this way maybe. Is this a little bit better?
[04:01:19] Are you can we do you want to bring that big chair over there to the corner
[04:01:23] Okay, well, then this, you know, okay, all right, well, so you just you went to Columbia
[04:01:35] in Cuba, you went to, did you go to vote as well?
[04:01:38] Okay.
[04:01:39] So, these guys are just back from a fresh trip into real existing socialism.
[04:01:49] And they were in Cuba experiencing communism for all of its glory, even though it is a unique
[04:01:57] time to be in Cuba, considering that the federal government is openly showcasing their interest
[04:02:06] in fully starving out Cuba after half a century of blockades and actively trying to starve
[04:02:15] Cuba by basically taking out the remaining, the remaining allies of the Cuban nation first
[04:02:25] with Venezuela cutting off oil from Venezuela to Cuba and then also forcing Claudia Scheinbaum's
[04:02:31] hand to also stop sending oil to Cuba and I believe at this point they got like 20 days left
[04:02:38] on the island and it's a it's a pretty devastating situation but I wanted to hear from you guys
[04:02:44] with respect to like your feelings like going to Cuba and whatnot?
[04:02:48] I mean it's there's no no put lipstick on this situation is very sad very dire and it is you
[04:02:55] know the thing that makes it most dire at this moment is the combination of the cumulative effect
[04:03:00] of many years of crisis you know of many years of economic crisis introduced by the American
[04:03:07] sanctions and sort of a cascading effect from beginning of Trump won during the first wave
[04:03:13] of sanctions that Biden did not really do much, anything at all to undo. And then it's this
[04:03:20] more recent crisis been induced by, as you were saying, like the pressure that the United States
[04:03:24] and Trump in particular have put on other governments to choke Cuba, to choke the life
[04:03:29] out of the island as much as possible. They've been doing this gradually with Venezuela.
[04:03:34] Cuba had spent in recent years shifting to Mexico as its primary source of oil. Cuba
[04:03:39] is able to get some oil for itself.
[04:03:41] The oil is a very high sulfur content.
[04:03:43] There's not a ton of it.
[04:03:44] Very thick oil.
[04:03:46] Finding it's difficult.
[04:03:47] The fact that the oil is the quality that it is,
[04:03:49] part of what helps damage it can obviously eat.
[04:03:51] And then it grid.
[04:03:53] And now with no Mexican oil, yeah.
[04:03:56] I mean, like they're preparing,
[04:03:57] President Diaz-Canel gave a press conference yesterday
[04:04:00] in which he described and began rolling out publicly
[04:04:03] what the rationing plans are gonna look like.
[04:04:05] They are preparing on Cuba for life
[04:04:07] with little electricity as possible.
[04:04:11] And it's, I mean, I'm not really sure
[04:04:13] there's much modern precedent for something like it,
[04:04:15] you know, without like a kinetic war going on
[04:04:17] at the same time.
[04:04:18] It's really quite shocking and appalling.
[04:04:21] I was there and you gotta yell a lot more, sorry.
[04:04:25] The noise gate is off even though, hey, chatters,
[04:04:28] the noise gate is deactivated.
[04:04:30] So shut the fuck up, okay?
[04:04:32] Unfortunately, there's not much difference
[04:04:33] between the noise gate being active
[04:04:35] and the noise gate being inactive.
[04:04:38] Okay, so calm down.
[04:04:39] So you've got to yell more, sorry.
[04:04:41] I was there in 2022,
[04:04:44] and while that was not a great time,
[04:04:48] either the Trump Turbo Sanctions
[04:04:49] had already taken effect,
[04:04:51] Biden had not gotten rid of them.
[04:04:55] I cannot remember seeing the number of homeless people
[04:04:59] or people begging that we saw this time around.
[04:05:02] that was, that was also, or I don't recall any blackouts, honestly.
[04:05:12] I'm sure there might have been blackouts back then, but if they happened,
[04:05:18] they were fairly irregular compared to now, where every day we had a blackout.
[04:05:24] Some were scheduled, some were unscheduled.
[04:05:26] They could last for up to 60 hours.
[04:05:29] And I would say we had power, probably less than we did with power.
[04:05:32] less often, maybe about the same.
[04:05:35] So it is just in the couple of years
[04:05:40] since I've been there, again,
[04:05:44] people who had been to the island many times,
[04:05:47] it's different and it's probably worse
[04:05:50] than the special period at this point.
[04:05:53] Yeah, and the only other thing I would add to that,
[04:05:55] like the whole portrait that we've given is that,
[04:05:59] there's not like a sense of disorder in the streets
[04:06:03] beyond again, like the trash pickups that aren't happening
[04:06:07] and this kind of public, this visible poverty.
[04:06:11] Society is functioning there and people are terrified.
[04:06:14] People are really scared for their futures.
[04:06:19] I mean, these are very, very dark days
[04:06:22] and the Trump administration is doing,
[04:06:26] I mean, part of what makes it so dark is that
[04:06:28] It's one of, right, like 50 million things
[04:06:31] could be for world attention right now.
[04:06:33] And on top of being one of 50 million things
[04:06:35] can be for world attention right now,
[04:06:37] small countries tend not to rate.
[04:06:39] And you already have to break through
[04:06:40] so much of the ignorance and prejudice
[04:06:42] on the part of not just everyday Americans
[04:06:44] but our fucking political elite,
[04:06:46] which still labors under many, many delusions
[04:06:48] about the character of human society,
[04:06:51] the character of the Cuban government.
[04:06:53] And we're now in this really awful position
[04:06:56] where the Trump administration is doing,
[04:06:58] you know, almost a pincer thing.
[04:07:00] They're doing the Mexico thing.
[04:07:01] They're intending to find sanctions,
[04:07:03] essentially threatening massive retaliatory tariffs
[04:07:05] for anybody, implicitly directed to Mexico,
[04:07:09] but anybody who sells oil to Cubans,
[04:07:11] they're pressuring Caribbean islands.
[04:07:13] There was an announcement today, I forget the country,
[04:07:15] but they're pressuring them not to take Cuban doctors
[04:07:18] and not to send their own people
[04:07:19] to Cuba for medical training.
[04:07:21] And they're also beginning major reconnaissance flights
[04:07:24] off the coast.
[04:07:25] entering Cuban airspace, what we've seen, but they are going to Cuba.
[04:07:30] They're spying on it.
[04:07:31] And, you know, the Cubans are preparing not just for this economic calamity we've been describing,
[04:07:36] but they're also prepared for an invasion. Exactly.
[04:07:39] I mean, it's it's the this is as this is as as dark and scary as any moment as has existed there in 60 years.
[04:07:49] And that was back when fucking there was a live nuclear dispute involved, you know, that took place there.
[04:07:54] much the very, very intense situation.
[04:07:58] It's a dire set of circumstances that is completely
[04:08:02] in the hands of the American government.
[04:08:03] It's just rank naked American imperialism, American cruelty.
[04:08:09] But the question I've had in these last couple of days,
[04:08:13] especially, is will it take a somewhat style
[04:08:19] flotilla operation to try and offer,
[04:08:22] to break through the American embargo and to try and offer aid to Cuba in a similar vein to Gaza.
[04:08:29] I know that there is like, I mean, there's it's illegal in the hands of Israel to do such a thing
[04:08:35] to bring aid to Gaza. But I feel like there's more of an opportunity to do that in Cuba,
[04:08:41] given Cuba's proximity and given America's direct involvement. If America tries to
[04:08:47] gazify Cuba in a similar capacity, I feel like there's more of an opportunity to organize
[04:08:57] around this issue given the direct violence that we are subjecting the Cuban population
[04:09:02] to and potentially break through that blockade.
[04:09:05] What do you think about that?
[04:09:06] I mean, look, the United States government is already using aid channels that were
[04:09:12] created up in the last few years since the Obama initiated thought to bring in like six
[04:09:16] million dollars of aid, you know, cents per person really in Cuba, but it's like a mild
[04:09:22] amount and they're already trying to sow the division and say, oh, listen, we've got,
[04:09:25] we're sending aid through these channels, you know, through the Catholic Charities
[04:09:28] or from ever we've designated as appropriate conduits there, and they're trying to
[04:09:33] again, you know, de-sovereignize the fucking country already in like subtle ways
[04:09:37] more than they already have been. So any amount of aid that people on their own, organizing through...
[04:09:45] Well, it's not necessarily about the aid itself, just like with some multiple-
[04:09:48] Even the demonstrate. I mean, look, the one difference I will say with Gaza, though,
[04:09:52] is that you can get on a flight and you can go to Havana now. You can't do so on a tourist visa.
[04:09:57] It's post-prohibitive, of course, but if people want to go to Cuba,
[04:10:02] they have the ability to go there and see it for themselves, even in these difficult...
[04:10:05] The reason why I don't know if that's the appropriate measure in this circumstance,
[04:10:08] because you're already adding additional lift to the island that is like suffering
[04:10:13] by kind of being there, right? And that's why I was saying like, what if you were just,
[04:10:18] like, is there a world where, you know, you get a bunch of barrels of oil and try to
[04:10:25] bring it to the island? Or is that too fucking insane to come up with?
[04:10:29] I mean, we're talking, you know, these are ideas beyond my pay grade.
[04:10:34] Yeah, I mean I just I don't know I like there is because right now the only the only two countries on
[04:10:42] the planet I think that could potentially use as an opportunity to stand against America's imperial
[04:10:51] endeavors in Cuba is Russia and China and they are either one agnostic to American Empire like
[04:10:58] China is and more invested in trade maxing or to have their hands too tied up in Ukraine
[04:11:06] and their own personal, you know, irredentist ambitions. So I don't think that that's going
[04:11:13] to happen anytime soon either. But like, is there something that can break through the
[04:11:17] American pressure that will recreate the same like aesthetic foundation of principled help
[04:11:31] towards the Cuban condition like in the way that Mexico was doing.
[04:11:36] Is there anything that gives them more confidence to be able to engage with Cuba?
[04:11:40] I think at this moment what everyone is hoping for is at least a return, a dialing back
[04:11:46] to where we were before our trip. The Mexican thing happened while we were there. Mexico has been
[04:11:53] very helpful, but up until recently because I'm sure Mexico doesn't want
[04:11:57] to invade its country, under the context of hotels or whatever. Narco terrorism. Narco terrorism,
[04:12:04] which hasn't been lodged as a complaint to get. But the only thing that's been lodged as a
[04:12:07] complaint in that fact sheet that they put out was Cuba, Harvard, Samas, and Hezbollah.
[04:12:12] No one understood.
[04:12:15] Well, they said that about Venezuela as well.
[04:12:18] Yeah.
[04:12:19] They did.
[04:12:20] They love adding that in.
[04:12:21] I mean, it's just, it's awesome.
[04:12:22] Like we, we basically taught first the Nazis and then the
[04:12:26] Israel, like all of the worst behaviors.
[04:12:29] And then now we're just like.
[04:12:30] Feeling their work somehow.
[04:12:32] I will say just on the group project.
[04:12:34] Yeah.
[04:12:35] It's a never, it's a never ending cycle of like they take
[04:12:38] our notes and then they perfect it.
[04:12:40] And then we turn back and we're like, well, you know, maybe, maybe you went a little too far and then we take their notes and then we perfected ourselves.
[04:12:48] It's great. That's the real Imperial boomerang, actually. It's not, you know, the violence that we subject others to, and then that very same violence coming back into the domestic territory.
[04:12:59] But this is the other Imperial boomerang.
[04:13:02] They they are probably I mean there's a lot of speculation right now about will there be a cuban
[04:13:09] with Trump and
[04:13:11] American government says that talking to the Cubans
[04:13:15] Very eager to have that conversation. Yeah, I that that's happening
[04:13:20] If it takes if oh if what it takes is to build like a Trump Tower in Havana like I'm
[04:13:27] Fairly certain that I mean I can't speak for the Cuban government, but like I feel like that would be
[04:13:32] A more favorable deal than being fucking there's there's a deal to be had the trouble is that there is and I'm working on a story about this
[04:13:39] You're reporting over the next couple days or at least come out
[04:13:41] But like it's worth observing that Donald Trump has on multiple occasions at least twice in the last month
[04:13:48] He said we are talking with the Cubans are talking with the highest level Cubans and the Cuban government has said in as many different ways as it can
[04:13:55] Advise a deputy foreign minister on CNN said this recently
[04:14:00] He said the same thing in an AP interview.
[04:14:03] The president himself has said it, which is that,
[04:14:05] listen, there are no talks.
[04:14:07] Like we engage in some technical matters.
[04:14:09] I mean, Christ is on ton of a bay sitting
[04:14:11] in the middle of Cuban territory.
[04:14:13] They have conversations about who picks up the trash,
[04:14:15] I suppose, but there is no high level
[04:14:18] bilateral negotiation or discussion going.
[04:14:21] There is only the, like fears and the ferocity
[04:14:25] of the American boot.
[04:14:26] I just don't understand how other Latin American countries,
[04:14:29] other South American countries don't recognize the territorial ambitions of the United States
[04:14:35] of America and try to create a somewhat reasonable line of defense against the now Don Roe doctrine
[04:14:45] that is imminent. It almost feels like they don't have any real options, I guess.
[04:14:50] And so we were trying to have a possibility of that.
[04:14:54] I mean, it was this conference called a oyster America and my cranky getting up in my year's
[04:15:04] cynical line or take away from it was, you know, it was a lot of statements about standing
[04:15:10] together against American Germany, but just two days later, the Mexicans stopped the
[04:15:14] oil ship.
[04:15:15] Yeah.
[04:15:16] Or the commitment.
[04:15:17] Yeah.
[04:15:18] What about my goat Gustavo Petro?
[04:15:19] Well, and Petro is also, though, dealing.
[04:15:21] I mean, this is where it's like what shine bomb and Petro,
[04:15:25] like Petro, like the knife's edge in which they're dancing.
[04:15:28] I mean, more so Petro because there's an election coming up.
[04:15:31] And Petro is him.
[04:15:32] He's terminated out, I guess, meaning that they have they.
[04:15:37] There is a political environment there in Colombia.
[04:15:39] You know, it's Colombia is a country that is like historically.
[04:15:41] It was not a part of the pink tide.
[04:15:43] There is like a there's a domestic situation there.
[04:15:45] And the idea of like drawing the eye of Sauron of Trump there.
[04:15:49] Yeah, it's pretty particularly free. He did he did dangle that as well when he was when Petro was speaking out against Trump
[04:15:58] Especially during the Venezuelan action. I guess it once again
[04:16:02] We are at the mercy of some of the cruelest most incompetent tyrants out there and I guess like the only thing you can lean on is their
[04:16:11] Ambitions of making themselves more wealthy
[04:16:14] Well, and that's where I do think that there is some like the Cuba policy that is taking place. Like I think we can we can to it even if the hard facts haven't been reported yet.
[04:16:26] But I think we can into it that Marco Rubio is really the person in the driver's seat a lot of this policy. I think a pretty revealing magazine story recently about like the structure of the court politics in the White House right now was that one by Ben Terrace and New York magazine about Trump's health.
[04:16:41] And it was one of those articles that gets about one subject
[04:16:44] but really ends up being kind of a key whole view
[04:16:46] into the whole scene.
[04:16:47] And we see that there is this kind of like, all right,
[04:16:50] well, post-Trump, there are kind of two camps
[04:16:52] that are beginning their quiet war of succession.
[04:16:56] One is JD Vance, and one is Marco Rubio.
[04:16:59] And JD Vance right now is like,
[04:17:00] has like, I guess, shit in PR detail,
[04:17:02] doing the Olympics or whatever.
[04:17:03] And Marco Rubio is balancing the jobs
[04:17:05] of Secretary of State, National Security Advisor
[04:17:08] and Chief Archivist of the nation, by the way.
[04:17:10] And he's balancing all these jobs.
[04:17:13] And what it is giving him, I think in effect,
[04:17:16] is an enormous amount of latitude
[04:17:18] to press the diplomatic, except you can call it
[04:17:21] that side of it, as much as he wants.
[04:17:24] And I don't think that Trump is probably getting
[04:17:26] the straight talk on like, oh, when he says,
[04:17:28] like for example, when he says how we're talking
[04:17:30] to the Cubans, you know, there's a,
[04:17:32] to me it's possible to the point of even likely
[04:17:35] that Trump does earnestly believe
[04:17:38] that people in his administration
[04:17:39] are putting out felicitous Cubans.
[04:17:40] they're trying to be like, can we make a deal?
[04:17:42] Mr. deal, deal, deal, deal.
[04:17:43] You got to get Jared Kushner out there ASAP.
[04:17:45] I mean, whoever, like just somebody who's not clearly
[04:17:47] doing the ruby align, which is then to kick back up,
[04:17:49] oh yeah, sure boss, we're talking.
[04:17:51] But in reality, of course, what they're doing
[04:17:53] is squeezing and squeezing and squeezing
[04:17:54] because this is by the, you know,
[04:17:57] this is just the heightened continuation
[04:17:59] of all the policy of all the administrations before,
[04:18:01] which is if we squeeze these people enough,
[04:18:04] the thing will fall apart.
[04:18:05] And if it falls apart, then we can take over.
[04:18:07] It's why it's why Biden did nothing to reverse Trump policy first time round.
[04:18:12] Well, I'm sorry, until the very last moment when he took them off.
[04:18:16] Yeah, yeah, the last fucking day of the administration when he did that.
[04:18:21] And then they got put right back on it as soon as by the White House.
[04:18:26] And Rubio used this as his chance
[04:18:31] to make his mark on history in the way that he's always dreamed.
[04:18:35] Venezuela's interesting to him.
[04:18:38] The fact that he's been to the Secretary of State,
[04:18:41] I'm sure he's riding hybrid Cuba
[04:18:43] to for him to be responsible,
[04:18:45] all of the revolutionary social project
[04:18:49] would be end all, you know.
[04:18:53] And he's not all powerful,
[04:18:56] but he has crafted policy of strangulation.
[04:18:59] And I'm sure he will go down fighting over this issue.
[04:19:03] One just hopes he does go down fighting with Trump
[04:19:05] and Trump gets to which route those tactics.
[04:19:08] And then that's a deal with the government.
[04:19:11] Because there is also, by the way,
[04:19:12] one of the things that there's the Venezuela operation,
[04:19:16] like that raid kidnapping Maduro,
[04:19:18] it had a defined outcome in the sense that they kidnapped
[04:19:21] Maduro even though now they're excused to do whatever
[04:19:23] they want to Venezuela has been removed
[04:19:25] because Delci has not been charged
[04:19:28] with narco traffic or made out to be that
[04:19:30] in the same way as they were.
[04:19:31] You never know, Trump say he might strike again.
[04:19:33] They may hit again.
[04:19:35] However, I think in the case of Cuba,
[04:19:41] there's now this like, how to put it,
[04:19:45] like one of the things that has struck me,
[04:19:47] like especially, you know,
[04:19:50] that's been like especially disarming
[04:19:52] and seeing like the race to Cuba is that like,
[04:19:54] they've not like they've abandoned any sense of pre-check.
[04:19:57] Like there's not any sense of a particular reason for this.
[04:20:02] It's just like choke, choke, choke, choke, choke.
[04:20:04] We don't have a particular goal in mind.
[04:20:06] We don't have like an actual policy objective
[04:20:08] beyond inducing a political collapse.
[04:20:11] And, you know, when we went to Cuba,
[04:20:13] one of the things that I got to say
[04:20:14] that like is like two things I got to observe
[04:20:16] that really struck me.
[04:20:18] The first is that when, you know,
[04:20:20] the entire time we were there
[04:20:21] and we were really just in Havana
[04:20:22] and the environment in the surrounding area,
[04:20:24] we were in Havana in the surrounding area
[04:20:26] and I only once saw a gun, a gun.
[04:20:29] And it was a handgun on somebody's belt
[04:20:31] standing outside a military installation off the highway
[04:20:33] between the city and the airport.
[04:20:35] When we were in Bogota, I mean,
[04:20:37] their guys are kitted up like ours.
[04:20:38] They got assault rifles and body armor,
[04:20:40] standing next to the terrorist stalls.
[04:20:42] And that's just not the case in a van.
[04:20:43] There's no gun, there isn't,
[04:20:45] there aren't guns flooded everywhere, et cetera.
[04:20:49] And simultaneously, when we went to,
[04:20:51] we sort of witnessed and walked with
[04:20:53] the March of the Torches,
[04:20:54] which was an event organized,
[04:20:58] but first organized by Fidel
[04:21:00] and his comrades at the University of Amanda
[04:21:01] in the 1950s to celebrate
[04:21:03] the centenary of the birth of the great Cuban patriot Jose Martí.
[04:21:06] And we went on this walk.
[04:21:08] The person leading the procession was Miguel Diaz-Canel.
[04:21:10] Now, I'm not saying that there's no secret service in Cuba.
[04:21:13] I'm not saying that he didn't have protection.
[04:21:15] But I am telling you that with my own eyes,
[04:21:16] I saw this guy in a crowd of thousands and thousands of people.
[04:21:20] And he wasn't mobbed up with security, preventing anybody
[04:21:22] from being around him.
[04:21:23] If this was some crazy dictatorial country that
[04:21:25] was intent on suppressing its people at every turn
[04:21:27] and making it completely impossible for them to live
[04:21:29] their lives, then why was the dictator of this so-called
[04:21:32] dictator of this country, walking around in open air without being touched.
[04:21:35] There was a real it's it's a it's different like it's it's a it's totally
[04:21:40] different than even like the the you know, because people make the comparison
[04:21:43] to like Damascus and Assad and be like, oh, well, the Saudis do is like, no,
[04:21:47] there's a level of separation at any given point in in Assad's
[04:21:52] governance of Syria versus versus Cuba.
[04:21:56] It's a totally transparent, totally naked lie.
[04:21:59] the way that the American media keeps up the appearance that Cuba is a despotic, tyrannical
[04:22:07] government and not a country that is simply trying to survive in spite against all odds
[04:22:14] that America's placed upon them.
[04:22:15] And there's now this, which all it would just to say that America is betting on a
[04:22:19] vague notion of collapse at the end of a lot of economic summering.
[04:22:23] Maybe they provoke a coup or something.
[04:22:26] And I'm not going to pretend like, Oh, well, I can predict what's going to happen and what's
[04:22:30] not going to happen.
[04:22:31] And like I have, you know, some sort of answer to that, but I will tell you that I did not
[04:22:34] see a population that totally may not be as happy with their, you know, I may not be
[04:22:37] happy with their government the way people everywhere are now always happy with their
[04:22:40] government.
[04:22:41] I don't see people like banging for the blood of their political leaders in the
[04:22:44] street.
[04:22:45] Yeah.
[04:22:46] And it's, you know, this, this process of like, like squeezing the Cuban people may
[04:22:50] not have the desired effect, at least initially, at least for a while, in terms
[04:22:54] of getting people to turn against their government, particularly when the US is so aggressively messaging
[04:22:58] it as the exact thing that they want to do. The Cuban American congressman, that woman
[04:23:03] Elvira, I forget her name. Elvira is six months. Yeah, they're saying, yes, it's a tragedy
[04:23:11] when you hear a baby cry because it's hungry. But you know, price is worth it.
[04:23:17] Scott Besant, who's openly now, I mean, a lot of the things that the liberals have tried
[04:23:25] to present as good for the international order, a lot of the things that were presented, especially
[04:23:31] in the Treasury Department with our sanctions policy, that for years and years was considered
[04:23:40] a humanitarian, having a humanitarian purpose, are being openly promoted as regime destabilizers,
[04:23:49] as openly being promoted as a way to starve out the population until there's complete
[04:23:54] economic collapse, and they see no other way out of this other than to try to kill their
[04:23:59] leadership, to not exactly great success either, for the pressure.
[04:24:03] Well, that's what to say.
[04:24:04] I don't want to say that it can't work.
[04:24:07] I think history is full of sieges that are successful.
[04:24:11] However, let's go through the list of all the countries
[04:24:14] that we've targeted aggressively to sanction this way
[04:24:16] in an attempt to hope that it will successfully destabilize
[04:24:19] them and that the government collapses.
[04:24:20] Iran, still there.
[04:24:22] North Korea, still there.
[04:24:23] Cuba, still there.
[04:24:25] My goats at Jusha.
[04:24:27] Marx's land is Jusha is 100% the appropriate,
[04:24:32] real, existing anti-imperialist thought.
[04:24:35] That much has been proven.
[04:24:37] My apology form to the Kim dynasty,
[04:24:40] for the longest time I was like,
[04:24:41] maybe you guys should try to focus on development.
[04:24:44] I was wrong.
[04:24:45] I think you should always focus on developing nukes first.
[04:24:48] And then you can build as many fucking public housing
[04:24:50] initiatives as you want to.
[04:24:52] That much is clear to me.
[04:24:53] It worked for the Cubans.
[04:24:55] Yeah, no, it worked for them, but it worked for them.
[04:24:58] Yeah.
[04:24:59] By the way, about humanitarianism,
[04:25:01] the idea of what type of government.
[04:25:03] Apology to Khrushchev as well.
[04:25:04] There's a lot of apologies to be given out on this day.
[04:25:09] Big apology to Khrushchev and big apology to Kim Dinesy.
[04:25:11] Go ahead, sorry.
[04:25:12] I was just going to say, it's a stray thought,
[04:25:14] but it's one that I do think people
[04:25:18] in mind when thinking about whether or not
[04:25:21] we're in the final chapter of the American Translation
[04:25:24] Island on attacking us in fact.
[04:25:28] Very, very eager for normalized relations for many years
[04:25:32] and almost reached it at the end of Obama,
[04:25:35] which Biden never thought to open back up,
[04:25:37] even though he could have just raped it
[04:25:38] in the Obama tones that everyone,
[04:25:41] and certainly in the Democratic Party,
[04:25:43] would have celebrated as continuing his work.
[04:25:46] Maybe the next Democratic politician
[04:25:48] would take the easy win that would be normalization with Cuba.
[04:25:51] While we were there that night, the march of the torches,
[04:25:56] we assembled in front of the University of Havana
[04:26:00] And then began this march through the city.
[04:26:04] So we got to the water, all hearing from their apartments
[04:26:09] and banners and flags, and there were two flags.
[04:26:12] There was the Cuban flag, and there was the Palestinian flag.
[04:26:15] And I think that was more spontaneous,
[04:26:17] but it became a sort of co-march or demonstration
[04:26:23] about letting these places breathe and live
[04:26:26] and have self-determination.
[04:26:29] And the last time I had been in a march, it was outside of Columbia, a march for Gaza.
[04:26:35] I had just gone along with a friend, and we assembled outside Columbia University, where
[04:26:39] everything was boarded up, because they didn't want anyone to be seen in front of the university
[04:26:43] at that point, of course, doing anything like this.
[04:26:46] Marched to the city, escorted by cops to make sure nothing got too, too spicy.
[04:26:52] And in this case, it was the government that was our host that was encouraging and putting
[04:26:59] on this march, not the one policing it and possibly trying to shut it down as they had
[04:27:05] done in New York, whatever terrorism they called it, shut down Columbia protests.
[04:27:12] But think about that when you're thinking about what sort of horrifying government needs
[04:27:16] to be overthrown in Cuba and what kind of government we are hoping the United States
[04:27:21] government would be hoping to take over and not be like that.
[04:27:25] And the last country that I was going to mention
[04:27:30] that we targeted with sanctions, and then ultimately successfully
[04:27:33] destabilized and introduced the collapse of, was Iraq.
[04:27:38] And the thing was, we served that country to death
[04:27:41] in many respective sanctions.
[04:27:43] The Iraq Liberation Act, famously in the 1990s,
[04:27:47] The, you know, the effect of that right was when we, when we begin on these, when you set up a policy regime, when you set up an entire orientation, edifice of policy that says you can't do business with the country, you can't do business with business, business with the country, and then the, you know, sons and daughters of those people are forever marked as terrorists.
[04:28:13] When you've so made these people out as to be just complete malifactors in the world stage,
[04:28:21] in contravention of obvious fucking reality, they're sending doctors that they're trying to
[04:28:25] develop Alzheimer's cures, they're just trying to participate in the world as good moral citizens
[04:28:32] contra every other fucking government. Which one of the first things that Marco Rubio did was
[04:28:36] literally to try to stop that practice. And for years and years, our client, State Department
[04:28:43] of Servant Mainstream Media, has presented that as not a positive fixture around the world,
[04:28:51] and how foreign policy should work, but instead, what do they call it, like the
[04:28:55] enslaving of doctors? Yeah, the indentured. It's like indentured. But again, all of this
[04:29:02] this stuff is a path of escalation.
[04:29:04] Again, this insane crisis that we are now in
[04:29:08] may not result in a land war on Cuba,
[04:29:11] may not result in Delta Force getting deployed
[04:29:13] to the embassy, begin some prolonged street battle
[04:29:16] for Havana, it may not end in that way just yet.
[04:29:18] But what our leaders are putting us on a path toward
[04:29:21] and what they are promising is to get to a place like that.
[04:29:25] And the only way to stop it, I mean,
[04:29:26] you were asking earlier, like what is the thing
[04:29:28] we can do to realistically address the plight of people
[04:29:33] in Cuba, there is something, it's not totally
[04:29:36] dissimilar to case in Gaza where it's like,
[04:29:38] well, actually, the aid is important
[04:29:40] in identifying what are the opportunities
[04:29:41] to help people with your wallet.
[04:29:43] It's important to find those.
[04:29:44] But really the most important thing for Americans
[04:29:47] is to just demand constantly and clear voice
[04:29:50] and without much compromise at all
[04:29:52] that we got to end this blockade.
[04:29:54] We got to talk to the Cubans.
[04:29:57] You got to normalize relations with this country,
[04:29:59] 90 miles off the coast of Florida.
[04:30:02] And by the way, Florida is a fucking red state now.
[04:30:04] So there isn't a political process every four years for this.
[04:30:06] It's not like we don't have to live with
[04:30:08] Elian Gonzalez.
[04:30:09] There's no excuse for the Democrats.
[04:30:11] If they can plug it into whatever anti-Trump algorithm
[04:30:16] is working, if they want to leave Trump,
[04:30:18] put Trump's name all over it.
[04:30:20] But, I mean, it'll be interesting if he actually
[04:30:21] gets a deal at Ruben Cuba,
[04:30:23] and I'm sure Marco will be happy about that.
[04:30:26] Well, let's say that that doesn't happen
[04:30:27] and Trump sticks with the Rubio line.
[04:30:29] Democrats can just say,
[04:30:31] Obama wanted to end this collective punishment due to,
[04:30:34] this is part of the creeping authoritarianism
[04:30:37] of the Trump world where everything is bully politics
[04:30:41] and everything has gone both diplomacy.
[04:30:43] It's not who America is.
[04:30:44] I don't get people say they hate when people say,
[04:30:47] I don't care about the messaging so much
[04:30:49] in my old age now.
[04:30:50] Just put it in whatever language you can
[04:30:53] to end the blockade of Cuba.
[04:30:55] any time there is this conversation about what can be done,
[04:30:58] look at all the suffering.
[04:30:59] First question is, should be,
[04:31:01] do we currently have crushing sanctions on that country?
[04:31:04] Which is usually the case.
[04:31:05] And it's never discussed, it wasn't discussed with Iran.
[04:31:09] The only time you get a mention from a person
[04:31:13] of notoriety, a person that has proximity to power
[04:31:16] is when the Republicans are flexing
[04:31:19] when they go out to Davos
[04:31:20] or when they go out in front of a congressional hearing
[04:31:23] and say, our sanctions are fucking awesome.
[04:31:26] It has collapsed their economy.
[04:31:27] And now it's leading to the destabilization
[04:31:31] of this government.
[04:31:32] Like that's the only time you hear about it.
[04:31:34] And the mainstream media does not report on it either.
[04:31:36] It's fucking mind boggling.
[04:31:38] For years and years, these guys have presented our position
[04:31:42] like any sort of anti-imperialist position
[04:31:44] as like, you know, hating America and lying
[04:31:48] and saying that like that's not the function
[04:31:50] of sanctions.
[04:31:51] Meanwhile, in this current naked, vulgar, colonialist style
[04:31:57] imperialism that the American government is engaging in,
[04:32:00] they're openly talking about it as a positive,
[04:32:03] having the positive outcome that they wanted to create,
[04:32:06] which is making the economy scream.
[04:32:08] Yeah.
[04:32:09] Yeah.
[04:32:09] Well, now we're in the phase where I believe,
[04:32:13] and this is where things, again,
[04:32:16] the political choices available to Americans
[04:32:19] may start to become clear here
[04:32:20] as it becomes about, like, okay,
[04:32:24] successfully, Cubans already have had millions of Cubans
[04:32:27] have left the island in recent years.
[04:32:30] Millions of Cubans have fled conditions
[04:32:33] of economic privation and the remittance economy
[04:32:39] of people that has been set up to send money back
[04:32:42] to people on the island to support them and so forth.
[04:32:44] It's real.
[04:32:45] All that, you end up lighting all of that on fire,
[04:32:50] things that are, you know, like lifelines for the Cuban people as they are now fine.
[04:32:54] And, you know, Brendan is rightly pointed out that, like, this is one of those contradictions
[04:32:59] that may be very tolerable to Republicans, because they get to dine from both ends of
[04:33:02] it, so to speak. But it's that, okay, we destabilize Cuba. And, you know, we're
[04:33:08] now in this phase of deporting Cubans, by the way. Historically, we've never deported
[04:33:11] Cubans. We've never prioritized it because you're going to vote on a Trump guy is
[04:33:17] now fucking getting deported. And so it's like, all right, you fuck with an island 90 miles off
[04:33:23] their coast. Where do you think the people there who are fleeing are going to go? The young working
[04:33:27] age men or the people with children who decide that, you know what, I can't see a future here
[04:33:31] for any of us. We got to go, you know, whether it's getting in a raft or whether it's going
[04:33:35] into Panama and taking the jungle route. I mean, this is where it's like the
[04:33:43] actual rational logic of this policy has never really made it it's indefensible unless again unless
[04:33:50] unless there is a base and difference to human rights there's a base and difference to you know
[04:33:57] a complete rejection that any of these people have lives worth defending and protecting yeah
[04:34:01] I mean that was a spectacular success with the venezuela policy too though like basically
[04:34:07] collapsing all the economies of the neighboring nations or like applying tremendous pressure
[04:34:11] to neighboring nations as like we made the Venezuelan economy unsustainable, only to have
[04:34:17] a bunch of Venezuelans like escape and go to neighboring countries or even the United States
[04:34:21] of America offering them temporary protected status only to use in the next cycle the very
[04:34:26] same people that we gave temporary protected status to Donald Trump extended on his way out,
[04:34:30] by the way, to regard them now as like vicious criminals with a whole cloth made up,
[04:34:37] Tren de Raguah, like a narco-terrorism charge
[04:34:41] that we applied to every single Venezuelan.
[04:34:44] So, you know, it has, I guess, in that regard,
[04:34:46] a very short-term focus, narrow-minded,
[04:34:49] domestic electoral benefit,
[04:34:52] because you can then use the very same people
[04:34:54] that you invited into the country for political reasons,
[04:34:58] as now political pawns, once again, discarded
[04:35:02] as enemies of the state that are presenting a real threat
[04:35:06] through the legacy American?
[04:35:09] I think the craziest thing I heard
[04:35:11] or at least one of the ones recently,
[04:35:12] it shouldn't have been crazy.
[04:35:13] Like I should have,
[04:35:14] I should have like intuitively understood the case,
[04:35:17] but I was talking to our friend,
[04:35:19] somebody we interviewed in our show, Marta,
[04:35:22] he's into, and I was visiting with her in Havana.
[04:35:24] And, you know, most people who are, you know,
[04:35:26] most Cubans, only a lot most, many, many, many
[04:35:29] have ties, you know,
[04:35:30] Cuban Americans live in Miami, live in Florida,
[04:35:33] and they're in touch with,
[04:35:34] She was explaining how all of these new Cubans who have shown up in Florida and particularly
[04:35:39] in Texas in the last couple of years, how the people who are snitching on them to ICE
[04:35:44] are other Cubans who came from an earlier waves of immigration, including, you know,
[04:35:50] like so of course like the 50s, 60s waves of immigration, but also including their
[04:35:53] elitos, you know, the people who when they came over in the 1980s were also not
[04:35:58] totally unjustly, card as, you know, criminals and deviants and what have you.
[04:36:03] So it is like to me like there really is there is no honor in this shit. There is no loyalty
[04:36:08] Yeah, I mean it's just like I
[04:36:12] Don't understand how you can ever identify with a movement that very clearly is branding people that look exactly like you
[04:36:18] That sound exactly like you as the primary like as the arch villains of American society
[04:36:23] But I guess people got that same fucking hog brain worm that that you see all around the world, you know
[04:36:29] I mean, the DHS, when they released the names of the DHS guys, who killed, uh,
[04:36:34] Oh, yeah. Yeah, Freddie, I was like, oh my, I was like, man, this is,
[04:36:39] that's about, I mean, it's, I know, I already know what the stats are, but how many Latino people
[04:36:42] work for DHS? I know, I know, I know, I know. I couldn't be surprised. I think, I think you
[04:36:46] guys are discounting, uh, what I've been saying now, which is that Donald Trump read Sakai,
[04:36:51] and he's doing J.D. Pond. He's doing real J.D. Pond, which is to take the dispossessed
[04:36:57] masses of the third world that are finally engaging in the justifiable and revolutionary
[04:37:01] act of permanent first world genocide, taking that violence directly to the suburbs that
[04:37:06] slaughtering heritage and slaughtering legacy Americans heritage Americans in the most honorable
[04:37:12] way possible. That's that's what's going on. I think we need to get they're going to get to
[04:37:16] red army level Christian genocide. Yeah, people have been saying like abolish ice and it just
[04:37:21] seems like actually we just got to swap out the logos like for a red star on it and explain
[04:37:26] and like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[04:37:27] No, this is the real cultural revolution
[04:37:30] and it's more effective, no more struggle-scented.
[04:37:32] It's like aggressively crossing out the lump in
[04:37:35] part of the Chadi Fong.
[04:37:37] By the way, we were there, we gave a talk
[04:37:41] and got to do it.
[04:37:46] The questions were really great
[04:37:48] and people were tuned in.
[04:37:49] Like they were asking us about the younger people too.
[04:37:51] There were some blowback fans in the audience.
[04:37:53] Do they watch the Hassanon broadcast?
[04:37:54] They actually do.
[04:37:55] They know they know they said they they don't know about you. They said they watch you and it's because they hate you
[04:38:00] I was like, oh, that's bullsh**t. No, he's good. He's good. And they're like, no, we we don't like he's not he's
[04:38:04] No, no, no, really you should give him a chance. Um, oh god damn. I know if you can like I
[04:38:09] I'm gonna say if you hate looking at him, but they were but they were asking about mom Donnie
[04:38:13] They were asking about ice. They were asking about Minneapolis
[04:38:16] Mom Donnie who famously said Cuba is a despotic tyrannical and I brought that up. I I said because oh you did
[04:38:23] You're not you're not
[04:38:27] I said
[04:38:29] the way I said it was
[04:38:31] Even a progressive politician America like him is boxed in by the political culture
[04:38:37] Around among many other things including Israel, but also including Cuba, you know toxic politics in the screen
[04:38:45] And that's why you would you know, maybe watch with a careful eye some of these people look very promising
[04:38:51] the same thing. Because you can't turn the heat off. And, you know, we did discuss that
[04:38:55] openly. But they were the idea that this was a totalitarian island, which probably your
[04:39:00] viewers don't entertain. But this is a totalitarian island in which they're cut off from the
[04:39:05] real world and are fed communist slop or whatever is so far from the truth. Not only while
[04:39:10] things are very difficult right now, not only is there just a basic normalcy about
[04:39:16] the island, how day-to-day life works, they know about the rest of them. They're curious,
[04:39:22] they're incredibly gracious hosts as well. And we got a really interesting conversation with
[04:39:29] people who attended the talk, who knew about all this kind of stuff.
[04:39:32] Except for me because they know that I'm a shepherd of the Democratic Party and that I
[04:39:38] participate in bourgeois elections. And also the real pathway forward is the ACP.
[04:39:44] Right. Well, they, well, no, they said the ACP is right about everything. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was a nuanced.
[04:39:50] They were, yeah, they're, they're maggot commoners I heard in Cuba.
[04:39:53] I also, it's, what was kind of interesting is also, I mean, and this wasn't just in Cuba,
[04:39:58] but also in Colombia, like the extent to which, again, I mean, and it's worth
[04:40:03] observing, it's, it's like worth, uh, sitting with not in thinking that it's like, wow,
[04:40:07] we're the models that everyone looks up to. It's like, no, shut up. That's not,
[04:40:10] That's not what I'm about to say.
[04:40:12] It's that people, like they pay attention
[04:40:14] to American politics with like a lot of clarity.
[04:40:17] You know, like they see Mamdani and they,
[04:40:19] when they see him say something like,
[04:40:21] like when they see him cave or they see him compromise
[04:40:24] and something like that piece of rhetoric,
[04:40:25] it was very interesting to me,
[04:40:27] then to which like they're not happy about it.
[04:40:30] But they kind of get it.
[04:40:31] They already implicitly they're like,
[04:40:32] oh yeah, well you have that though.
[04:40:34] That's awesome.
[04:40:34] You have that whole Israel lobby.
[04:40:36] Like when you have people like Latin America
[04:40:38] talk to you about the Israel lobby.
[04:40:39] Yeah.
[04:40:40] and you know and like again get it yeah well like in measured tones too like with like weight
[04:40:44] would be a way less in like frankly weight less 50 somatic tones than you see in Anglo-Tuttle.
[04:40:50] Yeah that's how I felt about in I felt the exact same way with my conversation with Chinese people
[04:40:55] where like the expectation is that they are like the average American that they speak to especially
[04:41:01] because like many Chinese people go to the western world and like go through the higher education
[04:41:06] there, especially like, you know, sons and daughters like wealthier Chinese people. They know, like,
[04:41:13] there is a, there's an expectation that if you're American, if you're Western, you're gonna come
[04:41:18] at it with like a healthy dose of skepticism, so much so that when I would talk about like,
[04:41:23] my opinions on Mao Zedong, or Xi Jinping, they thought I was being sarcastic at first.
[04:41:30] Like they literally were like, you're making fun of me for having a more reasonable stance
[04:41:40] on I guess the excesses of the Cultural Revolution while simultaneously understanding that like
[04:41:45] you know Mao Zedong did a lot for the inception of the nation state, the People's Republic
[04:41:52] of China where that's unexpected because the expectation is you're just going to
[04:41:58] to have this like Mao Zedong is Hitler, but Chinese.
[04:42:02] Like Chinese Hitler.
[04:42:04] I mean, they had that, but his name was, I can't check.
[04:42:07] Yeah.
[04:42:08] I don't know which one to come here.
[04:42:10] Some government, I don't know which one.
[04:42:12] Yeah, it's a, I mean, the Hassanabbi broadcast.
[04:42:14] Is it either government?
[04:42:16] The Hassanabbi broadcast is not recognized.
[04:42:19] One China is.
[04:42:20] The cessation is, the cessation is movement.
[04:42:23] You know, we have a one China policy here.
[04:42:26] I mean, also, look, one of the things
[04:42:27] the Cuba that's also, you know, again, unlike other parts of the globe, is that like Thomas
[04:42:32] Jefferson said, we should be Cuba. Let's do like the American lust for annexing the annex
[04:42:40] in Cuba is something that is, you know, like I don't when I say and punishing Haiti. Yeah,
[04:42:47] those are the two consistent positions in perpetuity for American foreign policy and
[04:42:51] the chauvinist term, our backyard. Exactly. Well, and this is where it's, you know,
[04:42:56] and punishing Mexico, I think, are the holy trinity.
[04:43:00] Because it's about, again, these are all,
[04:43:03] I mean, it's the legacy of a white settler colonial state
[04:43:05] that recognizes none of the indigenous,
[04:43:09] nor Spanish colonial dissented institutions
[04:43:13] and political authorities that cropped up in Latin America
[04:43:16] in the 19th century, the Bolivarian Revolution,
[04:43:18] so forth.
[04:43:19] I mean, there's a real, again, chauvinism
[04:43:23] is the polite word for it.
[04:43:25] racism would be another accurate and more charged with, but like a complete disregard for any of
[04:43:31] these countries sovereignty and rights or whatever. And it's something that's extended again, unlike
[04:43:37] unlike the 20th century, like aspirations of American Empire, it's something that has like
[04:43:42] been with us from the very beginning and is foundational to what is like our self-conception
[04:43:46] is American. Because it
[04:43:48] warrants if you know,
[04:43:50] people talk to these things.
[04:43:52] Great to see you got Will
[04:43:54] Minnaker and Will Minnaker on the show today.
[04:43:56] Dude, this fucking sucks. Everywhere we went
[04:43:58] in Cuba, people are like, oh, wow.
[04:44:00] Brothers? Oh.
[04:44:02] Who could be brothers? Oh, I thought you were going to say this sucks.
[04:44:04] Everywhere we went to Cuba, they're like,
[04:44:06] Chavo Traff House?
[04:44:08] Chavo Traff House?
[04:44:10] This is why, this is why he's
[04:44:12] dressed up and he's in a jersey. You have to have an Oscar in
[04:44:14] Not that Felix
[04:44:16] A couple increasingly odd couple style double act in order to be differentiated. Yeah, like next season Brennan's gonna wear a tuxedo the whole time
[04:44:24] And I'll be in like a like, you know, a barrel
[04:44:27] Yeah, he was a spenderson. He'll be he'll be represented the real communist garb
[04:44:32] Which is what you're supposed to wear a fucking barrel around your chest. Otherwise, you're your fate
[04:44:36] There's different schools of thought but uh, no, but the uh, the the idea of also
[04:44:41] Also, how easy if it was really about Republicanism and the idea of that kind of shared tradition
[04:44:49] of independence and self-determination that Americans believe the country has stood for.
[04:44:58] Bolivarian Revolution, Jose Martí and Cuba's Revolution, which really begun as a bigger
[04:45:04] and not just a Marxist-Leninist revolution top to bottom.
[04:45:10] These would have been very easy ideas.
[04:45:11] Were there an assumption of equal and universal principles
[04:45:17] between sovereign nations that it could have been like,
[04:45:20] I mean, almost like romantically compatible
[04:45:25] if it were about that.
[04:45:26] But it was not about that.
[04:45:28] It was about the ideas of manifest destiny,
[04:45:31] if you like, about the backyard, about the right to do whatever you wanted as a big dog.
[04:45:37] And so the Cubans, I think, in the history of, you know, post-revolutionary Cuba and
[04:45:42] its relations with the United States, I think they began very taken aback by how strange
[04:45:48] it was the Americans didn't have a more favorable view of the political tradition, the political
[04:45:52] culture.
[04:45:53] But isn't that so consistent throughout all of the countries in the periphery?
[04:45:57] Ho Chi Minh, who was like...
[04:45:59] Excited to the Declaration of Independence.
[04:46:00] Yeah.
[04:46:01] founding fathers and like thought America would be helpful in their anti-colonial ambitions
[04:46:06] against France and then learn the hard way that that was not the case or-
[04:46:10] We don't care about any of that.
[04:46:12] Even a modern iteration of this would be like Iran when they were shocked by being presented
[04:46:18] as a part of the Axis of Evil post 9-11 where they were like-
[04:46:21] As they were cooperating with us at that very moment, we were against that.
[04:46:24] I mean there's a real, we don't give a fuck about those people, we don't give
[04:46:27] to talk about those places, talk about the projects
[04:46:30] as far as they are either useful to us
[04:46:32] or genuflecting in many respects.
[04:46:37] I think some of this also, at least the way
[04:46:40] that we're going to, one of the things I'm curious about,
[04:46:44] like one of the things I'm noticing as time goes on,
[04:46:47] noticing is that Americans, there's a very,
[04:46:52] Americans, there's a very, a common and correct diagnosis of the American position in the world
[04:46:59] today is decline. And I think that that's the correct word. But like decline, you know,
[04:47:08] I'm sure be watching this about many of you have dealt with like family members who've
[04:47:11] had like memory care, memory issues, and they maybe have Alzheimer's and there's
[04:47:16] the kinds where it's like, you know, you sort of decline.
[04:47:19] And at times you're fine.
[04:47:20] or yeah, or it's just like it's calm.
[04:47:22] And then there are other people where it's like
[04:47:24] your mind and your body waste away
[04:47:25] and it's very difficult, very painful.
[04:47:28] And it's an incredibly like trying or deal
[04:47:30] in many respects that requires a lot of involved care.
[04:47:33] And you know, like, which do you think America's doing
[04:47:36] right now?
[04:47:37] Like there's a way in which it's like,
[04:47:38] we're experiencing this decline and it's a show
[04:47:42] with deadly consequences for many of its viewers,
[04:47:44] but it's a show being watched
[04:47:46] by governments and countries all around the world.
[04:47:48] And some people are trying to, you know,
[04:47:50] either you're Pupeles and whoever,
[04:47:51] we're trying to, you know, like,
[04:47:53] like ride that decline to their own preferred outcomes.
[04:47:56] And then there's a lot of other governments,
[04:47:57] like you were talking about China,
[04:47:58] trade maxing earlier, China or Vietnam,
[04:48:01] and a lot of other countries,
[04:48:02] particularly those from the periphery
[04:48:04] that are trying to break into middle income status
[04:48:06] that are just saying, please God,
[04:48:09] let this not end in nuclear war.
[04:48:11] Yeah.
[04:48:13] It's a really interesting predicament.
[04:48:17] Matthew Pettis says, nobody ever plans to get into a quagmire.
[04:48:19] Every stupid thing that you ask my favorite libertarian,
[04:48:24] perhaps the only libertarian that I tolerate,
[04:48:27] every stupid thing the US has ever done abroad
[04:48:29] was fueled by some combination of,
[04:48:32] it will be easy for you to go in and out
[04:48:34] and people will think you're a pussy if you don't.
[04:48:38] It's the thing that America has, I think,
[04:48:41] coasted off of, especially in this last iteration
[04:48:44] of managing the decline of American empire
[04:48:49] has been the fact that most of these other smaller nations
[04:48:52] in the periphery have no interest in fighting back
[04:48:57] because, and for the record, obviously it's easy
[04:49:02] for me to say sitting in the Imperial Corps
[04:49:04] to be like, oh, when are you fight back?
[04:49:05] Like I understand the calculations
[04:49:07] that like places like Iran are making
[04:49:09] the governments of Iran are choosing to engage
[04:49:12] America in a much more restrained way only only acting out when it comes to like the
[04:49:20] the you know absolute last moment and but the reality of the matter is I think all it would take
[04:49:28] for the house of cards the fall is if one country was like fuck it we ball it would be
[04:49:35] tremendously cruel and it would punish that country endlessly but I do think that it would
[04:49:41] expose the weakness of America if any country at all decided to say, no, we're going to defend
[04:49:49] ourselves. It's about the battle. No matter how small it is, even Cuba, I think I mean,
[04:49:54] it's I mean, Cuba has essentially been doing that for six decades consecutively. Yeah. Like,
[04:49:58] I think what part of what I mean about like it has it's about the battle is that, you know,
[04:50:04] There is like we're in a series of different crises or situations that present themselves
[04:50:12] with different specific contexts. And almost all of them, as of yet, have so far arisen in such a
[04:50:20] way where like the US nuclear trump card, the American trade and economic sanctions weapon,
[04:50:27] the American this, that, and the other remains incredibly effective at not just
[04:50:32] you know, dissuading one country from taking a stand, but from making it clear that if a country were
[04:50:38] to take such a stand, all the other countries that even if they're back channeling, like,
[04:50:42] thanks a lot, they're really good of you, they're actually in reality very, you know,
[04:50:47] they're not going to publicly go with them. I mean, we see it with Mexico.
[04:50:50] Right now, Mexico has a real genuine threat against its own sovereignty by the
[04:50:55] administration, which unfortunately, I think is probably why they took that threat about
[04:51:00] the oil and the tariffs are probably more consequences for that. They took it seriously. Venezuela is now,
[04:51:06] I'm sorry to say, a compliant, you know, pseudo puppet of the United States, just in the gutting of
[04:51:13] that oil nationalization alone. And you have to be able to see a way forward. But Shinebaum,
[04:51:27] You know she's done a she's done a good job of handling Trump up until now
[04:51:31] I think she's been able to make him feel as though he got concessions or on shine bombing well
[04:51:37] exactly
[04:51:39] Ideally, but she at the moment at the moment
[04:51:42] She's modest expansion of welfare and social safety nets in an effort to you know
[04:51:48] in an effort to fix was broken in the country, but also
[04:51:52] Maintaining compliance with
[04:51:57] I don't say that. Other people say Musabdani. I think that's really funny.
[04:52:02] But that was why the Mexico thing hurts so much, is that more or less it's what you're
[04:52:08] describing. I mean, Mexico was defying the United States while remaining relatively
[04:52:13] safe from any kind of meddling in its own country. And Venezuela for a long time was
[04:52:21] also incredibly defiant. And now here we are. So Cuba is going to be in this
[04:52:26] And like there is it also like the U.S. had just spent like the last few months just like blowing up fishermen from the fucking sky
[04:52:34] Yeah, close to Columbia and Venezuela. Yeah, like they're already, you know
[04:52:38] Like they're already killing the people of these countries and it's not these are not academic questions
[04:52:43] But like what might the U.S. do like the U.S. is already doing quite a lot of it and particularly in the case of Mexico
[04:52:49] I think that one of the thing, you know, it's it's
[04:52:52] the
[04:52:54] It's just so evident that like the Trump administration especially, so like something that comes up on blowback all the time is that you we've in the shows we've made, no matter what situation you're looking at in which theater of the world which area for policy.
[04:53:08] There come points in the determination what America is doing there that have absolutely nothing to do with what goes on in that part of the world it's entirely about like domestic political consideration.
[04:53:18] And, you know, there's a classic formulation in domestic American politics of wagging the
[04:53:23] dog, of trying to find ways to start wars, to drive the new cycle to your favor.
[04:53:28] George H.W.
[04:53:29] Bush probably the most accomplished practitioner of this in recent memory simply because he
[04:53:34] did it so often and to some success granted, but not enough to get through a win re-election
[04:53:40] through a recession.
[04:53:41] But the, again, like in the Trump administration, he's gone through hell in the last year
[04:53:47] on domestic policy in every respect. Nobody is happy with the economy. Nobody's happy
[04:53:51] with the ICE policy. The Nazis want them to go harder and most of the country says fuck
[04:53:55] off, go do less. And now it's like, all right, where can you find a win? If I'm casting
[04:54:00] about, if I'm looking for where I can secure a fucking dub for my legacy, it's not going
[04:54:06] to be in the Kennedy Center. It's not going to be renaming Penn Station. It's not
[04:54:09] going to be any of that other just insecure shit. It's going to be the stuff that
[04:54:12] like Marco Rubio is whispering in my ear about saying, Hey, what if you're the
[04:54:15] a guy who killed Fidel Castro's people.
[04:54:17] But because of the unimaginable weakness
[04:54:20] of the administration that does not have a popular mandate,
[04:54:23] and that's very obvious at this point,
[04:54:26] I feel like this would be a perfect opportunity
[04:54:28] for any political operative to really exhaust
[04:54:32] the contradictions to say, this is what he's fucking doing.
[04:54:36] All he cares about is like blowing up fishermen
[04:54:38] off the coastline of Venezuela
[04:54:40] or trying to further starve this tiny island country.
[04:54:45] Hundreds of elected Democrats and they love not saying anything.
[04:54:48] I know it's like it makes me so fucking mad that there is no like opposition to this even
[04:54:54] from a like savvy political maneuvering that the Democrats could do to really drive home.
[04:55:03] The argument that Donald Trump is is feckless.
[04:55:06] He's tyrannical.
[04:55:08] He's lost his sauce.
[04:55:09] He doesn't have anything.
[04:55:10] He has no motion, no bitches whatsoever.
[04:55:13] And all he's doing is just like trying to dominate all these other countries in the
[04:55:16] periphery for no real discernible goal.
[04:55:20] But unfortunately the Democrats are also on board with whatever the fucking Don Road
[04:55:25] doctrine looks like.
[04:55:26] I think that because of where Biden left everything, where the politics around Cuba
[04:55:32] are still in this suspended animation of like post Trump won, where he got rid of
[04:55:40] all the Obama stuff.
[04:55:41] nothing new, nothing, no new Democratic or Democrat party or progressive line on Cuba,
[04:55:48] that all they can really talk about Cuba like is, well, let's make sure we're following the rules.
[04:55:52] Let's make sure we're, are the new round of sanctions, can we get a look at them in Congress
[04:55:58] before you pass them?
[04:55:59] Want to fucking die when I do that shit.
[04:56:00] They, of course, but they don't have a politics around Cuba dating after
[04:56:06] after January 2000 and 17.
[04:56:11] I mean, look, it's, it reminds me of Ramirez's mug.
[04:56:13] Everybody was about Sarah Palin
[04:56:16] and I could still ask her for my house.
[04:56:17] Yeah.
[04:56:18] And it's like-
[04:56:19] She could see it from her house.
[04:56:20] And I would say-
[04:56:21] What the fuck?
[04:56:22] The thing that drives me crazy
[04:56:23] is how many self-identified progressives,
[04:56:26] how many self-identified people in,
[04:56:29] who are trying to say that,
[04:56:31] like they care about living in a,
[04:56:33] you know, a world that,
[04:56:34] You know, Dangerous Donald is not this spoiled or whatever the fuck.
[04:56:37] Like, they can't be bought.
[04:56:39] I mean, it's the cowardice.
[04:56:41] And that's what it is.
[04:56:41] And by the way, Obama, not to interrupt you,
[04:56:44] but Obama himself could be talking about this.
[04:56:47] I mean, I know he doesn't.
[04:56:48] He pops up every four years when he has a new documentary.
[04:56:51] But he himself, it was a very admirable policy.
[04:56:54] Was it, was it Tisha, no.
[04:56:56] But it was a pretty good move to thaw and to normalize
[04:57:00] relations, just cutting away a senseless,
[04:57:05] clearly unreasonable Cold War conflict that never should
[04:57:09] have even existed.
[04:57:10] And he did it.
[04:57:11] Now, he did it with that classic Democrat style of,
[04:57:13] I'm on my way out the door, I hope everything goes well,
[04:57:17] see you at the Emmys or whatever.
[04:57:19] But it was a good and constructive policy
[04:57:22] that Cuba and Cubans, government, people,
[04:57:25] if you want to make delineations to excessively
[04:57:28] or not, they loved it.
[04:57:30] and they were ready for it.
[04:57:32] And then Trump just got in and he had a bunch of whatever.
[04:57:34] I mean, I don't really know.
[04:57:35] I still don't know exactly who was in his ear
[04:57:37] besides the Mark of Rubios, but they killed it dead.
[04:57:41] The Obama people that are still in positions of power,
[04:57:44] they could be banging the drum
[04:57:46] about why we're doing this to Venezuela.
[04:57:47] That or Iran.
[04:57:49] Or Iran, the Iran.
[04:57:50] Or even with Iran.
[04:57:51] But they, I mean, there.
[04:57:51] They won't step up to defend their own accomplishments
[04:57:54] from that era, which we view as peace meal
[04:57:56] and insufficient and whatever,
[04:57:58] but that they could at least use as a cudgel to say,
[04:58:01] remember Obama's times, those were good, weren't they?
[04:58:03] Why don't we give the cast the torch?
[04:58:06] Yeah, Adam Jendelsen loves humping Obama's legacy so much.
[04:58:09] Why doesn't he pick that one?
[04:58:10] Okay, I'm not gonna lie.
[04:58:11] It also is a sign of the times that three people
[04:58:14] who have never shied away from criticizing Obama
[04:58:18] are saying like, come on, can we get back?
[04:58:20] Can we draw the clock back to Obama time?
[04:58:24] I mean, but it's an important reason.
[04:58:25] You're talking about the position of Cuba.
[04:58:27] No, I know, I know, I know, I know, but it's cool.
[04:58:29] It's also an important point about, like, how much I think the democratic, like, look,
[04:58:31] like the democratic voters and people who I'd affiliate with being, you know,
[04:58:35] when they have to go cast a ballot, they typically do it for Democrats.
[04:58:38] Like, in this country, their attitude on Gaza is not like what democratic
[04:58:42] elections attitude is.
[04:58:43] And foreign policy, more generally, the class of person who seems to be
[04:58:47] getting elected more and more over the past eight years, 2017 on,
[04:58:51] are people who, whatever their private opinions about issues like Cuba or
[04:58:55] Palestine might be are publicly way less willing to get it on a fucking limb.
[04:58:59] I mean, Obama again, like I'm not saying that the fucking Kerry talk,
[04:59:02] the John Kerry mediated talks with between the Israelis and the Palestine.
[04:59:05] No, I hated the apology tour.
[04:59:07] He told me he hated it.
[04:59:09] He was like, why is Obama apologizing for Hiroshima?
[04:59:12] I it was.
[04:59:14] Look, it was a complicated thing that I think I think in the Obama, you know,
[04:59:18] he tried to do like a bunch of like bullshit, limp dick things.
[04:59:22] But the thing was, is that like in the very active at least trying them, it was a directionally different thing from what even the Democratic Party, like stalwarts have been advocating less, you know, eight years, which is essentially to do like, well, okay, how about we just do the Trump stuff, but like a little softer volume.
[04:59:38] We fuck, you know, we fuck Maduro, we fuck Venezuela, we fuck Iran, we fuck Cuba. We do all that except like we do it at 30 decibels instead of 90.
[04:59:45] Shout out Chris Murphy. We try to do a soft coup on Venezuela and Trump fucked it up.
[04:59:51] It is one of the Brandon-born reality that we're not rid of yet, which is that there were no,
[05:00:00] there was not a new politics developed in the Brandon year about things like this,
[05:00:05] about things like Cuba, about things like Iran. They just like they did with everything,
[05:00:09] including overseeing the genocide of Palestinians. They just kind of said, what's that mean?
[05:00:17] Do nothing when? Right? Yeah, no, it was thought they were doing that. Even Afghanistan, which I
[05:00:22] would say it was like probably the most courageous thing that the Biden administration did was a
[05:00:28] continuation of Trump's policies. Trump's negotiated retreat. And they fucked it up too.
[05:00:33] That's the amazing part. It's like it's like one thing, say what one will about the Obama
[05:00:36] nuclear deal stuff like it was like they successfully executed the policy it just so happened that and if
[05:00:42] they got succeeded by that the person who came after them similar with the Havana stuff I mean
[05:00:47] you know they they the worst possible administration came after them instead of Hillary Clinton
[05:00:51] administration not like that would have been technique but like again in in this case at least
[05:00:57] now it's like all right the Biden standard is when we do do the right thing we do it like we're
[05:01:02] quiet quitting. Like it's, it's, it's awful. Yeah. Complete, complete continuation of the
[05:01:08] sanctions policies, a complete continuation of the sanctions, like no sanctions relief
[05:01:12] on Iran, not even like turning the clock back to Obama era in terms of foreign policy.
[05:01:18] No investment in that maneuver. You had the chance to reorient politics after the supposedly
[05:01:23] apocalyptic Trump term. At that point was just one that everyone thought was a nightmare
[05:01:28] We had all woken up from had the chance to reorient American politics for the next generation and say we're closing that door.
[05:01:35] We're all grateful to be done with it.
[05:01:38] And we're getting back to getting back to liberal international order. That's what we're getting back to.
[05:01:44] It was and they they decided that the only thing that they really wanted to correct was a few things about manners.
[05:01:51] A few things about their perception of the Democratic party from an optics level.
[05:01:56] And the, and the, the, the NATOization of Finland.
[05:01:59] Well, they, and NATOizing, and NATOizing countries as possible.
[05:02:02] They only had like the whole billback, better thing.
[05:02:04] And they had this like limp dick reindustrialism.
[05:02:06] I mean, it was so, it was so pathetic that they like,
[05:02:09] essentially after the pandemic suddenly woke up to the fact like, wow,
[05:02:12] we like gave all our industrial capacity to China.
[05:02:15] Isn't that crazy?
[05:02:17] Signed everybody who helped write NAFTA and ship it across the finish line,
[05:02:20] you know, 30 years ago for the Clintons.
[05:02:22] I mean, I think that there is this like,
[05:02:24] like it's what this is also just representative of
[05:02:27] is like the complete exhaustion
[05:02:30] of the liberal international order era
[05:02:32] that they don't have like, they have no ideas.
[05:02:37] They've got nothing.
[05:02:38] They open the fucking pantry
[05:02:40] and the best that they can do is like,
[05:02:42] well, what if we have like a slightly warmed over thing?
[05:02:45] I'm just hearing now a 2028 judge answer
[05:02:49] about Latin America or something playing in my head
[05:02:52] just well, look, we obviously have to be clear
[05:02:55] that there's no room for any kind of dictatorship.
[05:02:59] But at the same time, we have to know
[05:03:01] that we live in a world and that's a world
[05:03:02] where we're gonna have relations,
[05:03:03] not only our friends, but our enemies.
[05:03:05] This is what we're gonna hear.
[05:03:06] They're gonna ask him if he'd sign up
[05:03:08] on a nuclear pressure, I got him a few minutes.
[05:03:09] No, no, he's gonna be a Buttigieg.
[05:03:11] It's gonna be, I mean, like, look, I hate to say it,
[05:03:13] but like it's gonna be fucking AOCs given that spiel.
[05:03:15] She's going to be like this week.
[05:03:17] There's going to be like the aggressive effort
[05:03:19] to assimilate her into like the Atlantis,
[05:03:21] this NATO establishment.
[05:03:22] It's gonna be and that is again, it won't be that tough because it's so easy to not actually have to like militate against like the fucking like like the firmly held dogmas of this bullshit.
[05:03:33] So we're talking friends of each other.
[05:03:35] No, no, no, no. I mean, yes, but also no, a lot of people yell to me when I have Matt Deson but you know maybe I have his ear who knows and then I'm whispering sweet nothings about changing the trajectory of American foreign policy in Latin America
[05:03:51] probably not. I'm joking. I don't even know if Matt does will be. I mean, I don't think I'm
[05:03:56] I wasn't there wasn't there a conversation about Daniel Bessner doing my argument more policy for
[05:04:02] for AOC. My argument is not even that like I like again it's it's I wouldn't it's not about Matt
[05:04:07] does or even like AOC that specifically it's about like the pat like like this is a what is
[05:04:14] revealing itself to be like a generational project that's also a decline where it's
[05:04:19] going to be a long time where there's some even more crazy things are going to have to
[05:04:23] happen in the world and it's going to have to be more of a generational shift as people
[05:04:27] come to adopt the position that you know what the basic assumptions and alliances that we use
[05:04:31] to like structure our understanding of the world are not the same anymore and the base position
[05:04:36] that we have to adopt is like as the next inheritors of American power if that's who
[05:04:40] we believe ourselves to be is to think about well what does it mean to do that shit humbly
[05:04:45] and not just with the expectation that like we have the right to assert that other
[05:04:48] governments have to be a certain kind of way and that's going to without you know again like
[05:04:52] something resembling international consensus through recognized institutions like in ideal forms
[05:04:58] obviously not the reality the UN and so forth and it just doesn't seem that like again there is any
[05:05:03] class of politician that has risen to national prominence you know outside of the cranks we
[05:05:07] don't even have like the the lone like true anti-imperialist politicians anymore like I guess
[05:05:13] the close you can get to that is like on the singular issue of Israel like a Thomas Massey
[05:05:17] who's just like, who's awful on everything else obviously, but like on that one issue,
[05:05:22] he's like a standalone figure. Yeah. I
[05:05:28] was anymore. Okay, good.
[05:05:31] awkward dynamics that I already have, but I will say that it is not only the politicians,
[05:05:37] but their advisors and think tank types that I think were perceived as a breath of fresh air
[05:05:45] 2016, maybe in 2020, I don't think they grappled with the nature of where we are and what America.
[05:05:53] I don't disagree with you at all. Yeah. I was just joking about that. No, no, no, no, I know. I just,
[05:05:57] I've had back and forth with this chat in the past. Let's just say I vaguely am agreeing with some
[05:06:03] of the remarks about certain people who you've mentioned. I do not think they have a sufficient
[05:06:08] vision for what people expect of the progressive or, you know, I don't know, just sensible,
[05:06:14] reasonable policy, anything that includes NATO or preserving the alliances that we need to have in
[05:06:21] the world and come to the aid of someone who's threatened. All that language is basically still
[05:06:25] unquestioned, even within the progressive or quote-unquote 100 percent dem-socialist orders.
[05:06:31] I think it's not an accident that someone who has like a who has spent many many years working
[05:06:37] within the DSA who literally has its own caucus that specifically designed around like, you know,
[05:06:45] ending the blockade around Cuba will then turn around and say, you know, Maduro and the Cuban
[05:06:53] government are like tyrannical. Like that's not an accident. That's you trying to play ball because
[05:06:58] you think that there's an app. Like you don't want to disrupt these forces at all because
[05:07:03] as you consider foreign policy to be the untouchable third rail that is wrapped around endless military
[05:07:10] quagmires and endless American imperial dominance.
[05:07:14] And what's really interesting about that is, ironically enough, the one third rail that
[05:07:18] Zora Mamdani did touch was the reason why he's now the fucking mayor straight up, like
[05:07:23] if there's one standalone moment that you can point to that everyone universally agrees
[05:07:29] was a holy shit moment was when he said he's not going to fucking israel now of
[05:07:33] course he did that in the most like uh...
[05:07:35] you know in the nicest
[05:07:37] most like liberal
[05:07:39] uh... adjacent way possible where is like well i'm going to be the mayor of
[05:07:42] new york so i want to stay in new york
[05:07:44] but like everybody understood
[05:07:46] that it was such a unspeakable moment like it was such a moment of like
[05:07:51] breaking away from the rest of the canada is that
[05:07:53] that is quite literally the fucking reason why he's the mayor right now
[05:07:57] I think pragmatism and presenting yourself is less ideological and more whatever, super
[05:08:06] socialist stuff.
[05:08:08] I think that's all fine.
[05:08:10] I just think it's very important not to confuse the idea of a pragmatic and humane or decent
[05:08:20] a progressive line or new thinking with repackaging this kind of 20th century liberal cliches
[05:08:31] about how America needs to govern the world at all times.
[05:08:34] Yeah.
[05:08:35] And just do it in a more, in a way that's more conventional or a way that shows greater
[05:08:41] respect for international institutions to choke Cuba or discipline and punish liberation
[05:08:47] movements.
[05:08:48] Yeah.
[05:08:49] and in a drip rather than in a flood.
[05:08:52] And I think that there is not actually been an arrival
[05:08:55] of Democratic Party, the Bernie wing or whatever
[05:08:58] of something that's beyond that.
[05:09:00] No, if anything, I think one of the things
[05:09:01] that like is been a reveal, again,
[05:09:04] that's why I try to think, I'm going to describe this
[05:09:06] as like a generational project,
[05:09:08] because like if there is anything
[05:09:10] that is like part of the price of admission
[05:09:12] to getting to participate in organized establishment
[05:09:16] elite politics at a municipal level,
[05:09:18] on a national level in this country,
[05:09:20] it is about like a certain kind of fealty
[05:09:22] that has to get paid for like a lot of specific truths
[05:09:25] about how American power gets wielded in the world.
[05:09:27] And, you know, the moment that Bernie in 2016 most won my heart
[05:09:31] is when he got on stage that Henry Kiss,
[05:09:33] there's no friend of mine.
[05:09:34] And I think that there is like a kind of,
[05:09:37] I'm not gonna pretend like,
[05:09:38] oh, you could just make a whole presidential platform
[05:09:40] out of that and that that's something viable.
[05:09:42] I do think that.
[05:09:43] No, I do.
[05:09:44] I don't think it's the whole thing,
[05:09:45] but I'm saying that it is to me
[05:09:48] inextricable from like what a successful one would look like.
[05:09:51] The reason why I bring up the Zoran moment of like,
[05:09:53] I'm not going to Israel,
[05:09:54] is because similar moments have happened
[05:09:57] that were very advantageous for Donald Trump.
[05:10:00] The moment where in 2016 or in 2015,
[05:10:02] when he looked at the rest of the stages,
[05:10:04] he said, I paid for all these guys.
[05:10:06] Like, I'm a billionaire, I paid for all these guys.
[05:10:09] Like these guys all would beg
[05:10:10] to fucking have phone conversations with me
[05:10:12] because I was giving them money.
[05:10:13] That is a moment where everybody goes, holy shit,
[05:10:16] He fucking said the quiet part out loud.
[05:10:18] And I think there is an untapped avenue.
[05:10:21] And the reason why I go back to the Israel situation
[05:10:23] is because Israel is the perfect representation
[05:10:27] of this untouchable construct
[05:10:30] that so perfectly captures American imperialism
[05:10:34] and the fascist violence that we subject people
[05:10:37] and developing nations to.
[05:10:39] Like that never would have become a rallying cry
[05:10:44] for so many liberal Democrats even, right?
[05:10:48] Because right now in the base of support
[05:10:50] in the Democratic Party, it's not even a question.
[05:10:53] 80% of the base of the Democratic Party
[05:10:56] want us to sever our relationship with Israel.
[05:10:59] Maybe a different degree if you ask like,
[05:11:01] I don't know, some boomer in the fucking suburbs,
[05:11:03] but like people don't fuck with Israel anymore, right?
[05:11:06] But that never would have happened
[05:11:08] if it wasn't for the consistent, resilient advocacy
[05:11:13] of the the the activist base that the matthew laziest types fucking despise that never would have become
[05:11:21] a a major point of contention that actually now wins you favors if you oppose Israeli influence
[05:11:29] in American politics and we're seeing that happening right now even with the the special
[05:11:34] issue that took place in New Jersey like that would not have happened if it wasn't for a
[05:11:38] consistent push by people, like the people in this chat as well, who looked at the bravery
[05:11:46] of the Palestinians who were speaking out and who were showing in their last moments in many
[05:11:51] instances, the vans they were being subjected to, and then channeling that frustration and
[05:11:57] showcasing that to as many people as possible was the reason why in such a short period of
[05:12:02] time, and I do think this is objectively a period of time, of course, of two years,
[05:12:06] you know, 80 fucking years of foreign policy is now in the toilet, so much so that it started
[05:12:16] being such a contradictory position that the American government had to react and like do the
[05:12:20] fake ceasefire both. Where does that go? I don't know. But as far as like advocacy goes, I think
[05:12:28] bravery and leading by presenting a moral example on endless amounts of American military
[05:12:37] adventurism around the globe and speaking out against that could very well be a slant on its own
[05:12:44] that will allow you to cut through the fucking noise. I disagree only in a specific way,
[05:12:49] which is to say that part of why that worked with Israel in the last couple of years is
[05:12:54] is because Israel spent two and a half years
[05:12:56] committing a genocide in plain sight.
[05:12:58] Americans in a very real and explicit way,
[05:13:01] and this was a theme of the conversations we had there,
[05:13:04] I'm not saying that like, I'm not like,
[05:13:06] I'm not trying to go down the path
[05:13:08] of like treat your theory or anything like that.
[05:13:10] I think though that like Americans have
[05:13:12] an astonishing ignorance and astonishing ambivalence
[05:13:15] and ambivalence toward an insulation from
[05:13:19] what happens on the world stage.
[05:13:20] And so when I say that like,
[05:13:22] oh, we're running against the military industrial complex,
[05:13:24] running against the conversion of file shares in the stores.
[05:13:27] It's a great campaign platform.
[05:13:29] And it is something that, yeah, has 80% approval and so forth.
[05:13:32] But the reality is, is that it is not part of what populates
[05:13:36] the consciousness of the American mind.
[05:13:38] It's just to make a project.
[05:13:39] It breaks you through.
[05:13:40] It shows.
[05:13:41] It differentiates.
[05:13:42] Exactly.
[05:13:42] It shows urgency.
[05:13:43] But even.
[05:13:44] But saying fuck Israel is one of the best possible ways
[05:13:47] to present yourself as a earnest politician,
[05:13:51] even if you're not, even if you're fucking phony,
[05:13:53] even if you're doing it for a cynical purpose,
[05:13:55] like there's a reason why people fucking love
[05:13:59] Tucker Carlson now, and they're like,
[05:14:00] oh my God, I can't believe he's woke
[05:14:01] or whatever the fuck we say about Tucker Carlson.
[05:14:04] It's largely in part because-
[05:14:05] He's trans, actually, he's trans.
[05:14:07] Yeah, he's woke gay and trans at the same time.
[05:14:11] But like, or Marjorie Taylor Greene,
[05:14:13] like the reason is because it's a way to signify
[05:14:18] that you are not like the other politicians
[05:14:20] in an environment where by and large,
[05:14:22] no matter how selfish Americans are,
[05:14:24] they see DC as a blob,
[05:14:26] they see DC as like this unit,
[05:14:30] regardless of party affiliation,
[05:14:31] where everyone is only invested in,
[05:14:33] I don't know, whatever the interests of the wealthy are.
[05:14:35] And that's, there's, you know,
[05:14:37] in the base of support in either party,
[05:14:39] there is bipartisan consensus on that.
[05:14:41] They do recognize that.
[05:14:42] Most people look at DC and think,
[05:14:45] oh, you're just doing this for wealthy people.
[05:14:48] I'm sure, and you guys follow this stuff
[05:14:50] day to day more than me,
[05:14:50] I'm sure that I know that there's been progress over the last
[05:14:55] few years or so with regard to how tenable it is to support Israel
[05:15:00] as a Democratic politician.
[05:15:03] Yeah.
[05:15:03] I mean Gavin Newsom is like, oh, I'm going to not take any APAC money.
[05:15:06] You know, like, but see it's still and I'm not saying this is bad or
[05:15:10] the worst the better.
[05:15:11] It's still around things like APAC leadership isn't one to admit it all.
[05:15:15] Schumer just said the other day my job is to work for Israel basically all the time.
[05:15:19] That was like it was like I gotta be honest. That's the most dynamic I've ever seen in an
[05:15:25] elder's desire meeting is not supposed to be taped. It's all I'm gonna say.
[05:15:29] Okay, we just told that to the American Jewish Council, which seemingly does these things
[05:15:32] on a weekly fucking basis. They did the Bohemian Grove, Alex Jones tape, okay, but my point
[05:15:40] being there's obviously been progress made. I wouldn't say as encouraging as that
[05:15:44] is that it is the level and and like depth of progress you should expect during a a live-taped
[05:15:55] genocide for the past three years. It's still rather modest considering what what people were
[05:15:59] responding to. Cuba in a different instance is not like Gaza in its violence. It's very subdued,
[05:16:05] it's very quiet as we've said many times. It's it's really the the smart imperialist
[05:16:11] way to get something done is to quietly make the economy scream.
[05:16:15] People don't see dead bodies.
[05:16:16] They don't see blood.
[05:16:17] They don't see bombs.
[05:16:18] It's a slower, but much more effective and easier to justify and explain away, and it's
[05:16:24] easier to just ignore for most people who, as you were saying in America, because we're
[05:16:28] the top dog, we have the old gotten gains of the global south of the third world
[05:16:34] and we don't have to think about it too much.
[05:16:37] That means that you can't rely on the shock value, the way that you can with
[05:16:41] and you can't rely on politics shifting due to the shock people felt after 2023 in Gaza.
[05:16:48] So it's much more difficult to imagine the Democratic Party going through even a modest
[05:16:53] shift the way they have on Israel. I'm not talking about people who are young, I'm talking about
[05:16:57] party leadership and the middlewings. They've only gotten this far on Israel. How are they supposed,
[05:17:03] how are we supposed to envision them getting anywhere on a more all-encompassing approach
[05:17:08] toward America's foreign policy certainly with things like Cuba, with Venezuela, with Iran.
[05:17:15] The TV screens aren't even full of horrifying imagery for them to confront that ship.
[05:17:22] My opinion on this, I mean you're absolutely right. What I'm simply saying is that
[05:17:30] like the reason why I think people soured on the global war on terror
[05:17:36] is the same reason why in such a short period of time people soured on Israel, and it actually has nothing to do with the death and destruction.
[05:17:44] I think it has everything to do with domestic interference, no, it has everything to do with the domestic interference, like, or the domestic disruption.
[05:17:53] Because like I said, Americans are, we all recognize that they're very selfish, right?
[05:17:57] But we talk about the labor aristocracy, we talk about the imperial super profits coming home and how that's part of the reason,
[05:18:04] That's part of the reason we're sheltered from all of the impact to a certain degree.
[05:18:08] But I do think that Americans by and large recognize after 20 fucking years of bloodshed
[05:18:15] that they didn't get any of the fucking benefits really.
[05:18:18] The only benefit was that you weren't under the boot.
[05:18:21] You were simply-
[05:18:22] There was another thing.
[05:18:23] He said, we didn't even get the oil.
[05:18:24] We were supposed to get the oil.
[05:18:25] We didn't even get the oil.
[05:18:26] And everyone's like, oh yeah, fuck.
[05:18:27] Why were you even in Iraq?
[05:18:28] Exactly.
[05:18:29] My point is, I think that a similar through line, like a similar argument can be made.
[05:18:35] Like why do we not care about the RSF's ethnic cleansing in Sudan? Because there is no, at least
[05:18:41] for the time being, domestic Emirati lobby that is saying, oh, if you speak out on this stuff,
[05:18:48] like you're going to get punished or your free speech is going to get taken away. There aren't
[05:18:51] like the same, uh, entitled arrogant, uh, uh, ambassadors of, of this, of this country that
[05:18:59] is at least for the time being, uh, running their fucking mouths on national television
[05:19:03] on a daily basis. I genuinely think Americans would not have moved on Israel as hard as
[05:19:08] they did. If it wasn't for the likes of Rabbi Schmooley and Jonathan Conkukrius or, or
[05:19:14] Hagari, the fucking big-eared rear admiral general, I'm getting some of them.
[05:19:19] Oh, the stars are here.
[05:19:21] Yeah, no, but my point is like, it was that arrogance
[05:19:24] that actually I think pissed off a lot of people
[05:19:26] that normally would not give a fuck.
[05:19:28] Yeah, so I think it's pertinent on people like ourselves
[05:19:31] to make that connection with Cuba as well.
[05:19:33] Like what are you gaining out of fucking starving
[05:19:35] the Cuban population?
[05:19:37] And I would also add to that that there's like this,
[05:19:39] again, it's obviously not like the morally salient thing,
[05:19:45] the most moral, like morally pressing detail of this
[05:19:48] is that we're like slowly torturing
[05:19:50] a tiny other nation, et cetera.
[05:19:52] I'm giving up.
[05:19:53] Yeah, that's okay.
[05:19:54] That's okay.
[05:19:54] You're welcome.
[05:19:55] At the same time, yeah, it's fine.
[05:19:57] But the other piece of this though is that it's like,
[05:20:00] we torture Cuba, and this is like part of why at least,
[05:20:02] like one of many reasons why I believe that like the case,
[05:20:05] making the case in democratic circles,
[05:20:07] making the case in polite lives society for Cuba
[05:20:09] is a lot easier and a lot more straightforward
[05:20:11] than it is for many other like, you know,
[05:20:13] foreign policy passions and human rights atrocities
[05:20:17] that the left stands against or whatever,
[05:20:19] because there is also the fact that
[05:20:21] the more and more shit you throw at this place,
[05:20:23] the more and more it will come back to us.
[05:20:25] And it's not gonna come back to us like jihadism,
[05:20:28] or it's not gonna come back to us in the form of,
[05:20:30] like, you know, how we conventionally think of
[05:20:32] dare I say blowback, it will come back to us much more
[05:20:34] in the form of all of the fucking problems
[05:20:36] that people already get or pissed off
[05:20:38] at the government about in the first place.
[05:20:39] To me, the moment, the one politician,
[05:20:43] and the one moment, and really it was more of a moment
[05:20:45] that he did this than it has been defined
[05:20:47] his career in the last decade.
[05:20:49] But it was when there was a, I think it was,
[05:20:52] it wasn't the Manchester bombing,
[05:20:53] I think it was like a knife attack by somebody
[05:20:55] and Jeremy Corbyn, just like he did like,
[05:20:58] got up and he did the speech that we've all wanted to hear
[05:21:00] for like 20 fucking years, where he's like,
[05:21:02] okay, you wanna know why this happens at home?
[05:21:05] It's because of all the goddamn,
[05:21:06] you know, it's all the JDAMs, all the bombs,
[05:21:08] all the shit that we export to these countries.
[05:21:10] If you wanna see peace at home in this way,
[05:21:12] we have to make sure there's peace abroad, finito.
[05:21:14] Like he tied the bow on it.
[05:21:16] It was very nice.
[05:21:16] And then the top pedophile of the British government
[05:21:19] was sent in, was para-dropped into the fucking labor party
[05:21:24] to carefully excise Corbin and like the eight Corbinites
[05:21:28] from the ranks, urge them from the ranks
[05:21:30] of the labor party.
[05:21:31] Did you see Felix by the way in the latest chopper
[05:21:33] had an amazing way to describe Epstein?
[05:21:36] What?
[05:21:37] Human Dubai.
[05:21:37] That's awesome.
[05:21:39] Isn't that incredible?
[05:21:40] That is great.
[05:21:41] Like it gets the whole thing.
[05:21:42] I was very impressed.
[05:21:43] Yeah, and the Cubans themselves, people that we've spoken to,
[05:21:49] there was the anticipation in Trump won.
[05:21:51] OK, Trump's a businessman.
[05:21:54] So this isn't ideological.
[05:21:57] Let's get open.
[05:21:59] There's open markets here.
[05:22:00] Tourism.
[05:22:01] We're down with that.
[05:22:03] And then, of course, what was the reason for turning that
[05:22:08] away?
[05:22:08] I think because, obviously, the stakes aren't that high
[05:22:10] in Cuba for him.
[05:22:11] And he just thinks he was persuaded by somebody, no,
[05:22:15] there's a greater value when presiding over the fall,
[05:22:19] passively presiding over the fall of the communist government,
[05:22:22] which will slap a bunch of sanctions on
[05:22:24] to get that effect.
[05:22:25] And then you can say I'm a businessman
[05:22:27] for freeing the island.
[05:22:29] But if he can maybe be disillusioned enough
[05:22:33] by Rubio's tactics not having worked up until now
[05:22:36] by saying I don't wanna have to invade another country
[05:22:38] or risk another operation that went so well already
[05:22:41] it's possible, I doubt it, but it's possible some logic
[05:22:46] could penetrate Trump himself about how,
[05:22:49] look, maybe we take the screws off a little bit here
[05:22:53] and see if we can have some business between us and Cuba
[05:22:57] and someone can say, hey, you know,
[05:22:58] we worked with them against narco traffic, actually.
[05:23:02] They were pretty fucking reliable
[05:23:03] and their guys weren't corrupt.
[05:23:04] So maybe we can go from that angle.
[05:23:06] And maybe people can just start talking about,
[05:23:07] as you said, oh, we'll get some exclusive rights
[05:23:09] to Trump hotels or blah, blah, blah.
[05:23:11] That is possible.
[05:23:12] I don't know how possible it is.
[05:23:14] But anything other than the Rubio line
[05:23:17] is gonna be good news to you, and you're well aware of it.
[05:23:20] And there is like, look, like Trump,
[05:23:22] there are these moments where,
[05:23:23] because Trump is such a fucking crazy weirdo,
[05:23:25] and because he's able to command
[05:23:27] the complete discipline still of like the right wing,
[05:23:31] where if he says something is the law,
[05:23:33] then you know, like Lindsey Graham will turn on a dime
[05:23:35] and say, well, that's the law.
[05:23:37] Like, you know, like it'll be,
[05:23:38] like Kim Jong-un is the greatest man I've ever met.
[05:23:41] I believe in this instance of Cuba stuff,
[05:23:44] there is like a way in which Trump has unique leverage
[05:23:48] compared to like any other Republican president.
[05:23:50] Well, he'll set the policy,
[05:23:53] you know, as he does with anything for all the,
[05:23:56] probably guys like Graham.
[05:23:59] Although I did think, I think I saw Graham the other day
[05:24:02] getting spicy with him in a second.
[05:24:04] Oh no, he-
[05:24:05] He needs to follow up on that promise for the,
[05:24:08] I think it was about Iran.
[05:24:09] To bomb Iran.
[05:24:10] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[05:24:11] Yeah, no, it's obviously.
[05:24:12] He was getting spicy with some of that.
[05:24:13] Yeah, that's because he went to Israel and the Mossad handler showed the latest photos
[05:24:17] they have of him with, I think.
[05:24:20] Mr. Graham, allegedly.
[05:24:21] Yeah, allegedly.
[05:24:22] Yeah, allegedly.
[05:24:23] Yeah.
[05:24:24] Because you see that photo and he's like, this is me in the head of Mossad.
[05:24:29] Oh, no, he literally posted it.
[05:24:31] Oh, so Kenneth the Page went to fucking Israel.
[05:24:33] They fucking flicked up.
[05:24:34] They flicked up.
[05:24:35] He got flicked up with his handler.
[05:24:38] Just throwing up signs.
[05:24:39] Yeah.
[05:24:40] I mean.
[05:24:41] Is that a halo mouse, by the way?
[05:24:43] Don?
[05:24:43] Yes.
[05:24:44] Pardon?
[05:24:44] Yes, it is.
[05:24:45] I do think there is, though, like it's, again,
[05:24:48] like it's just easier to imagine Trump saying,
[05:24:51] like, this is the way it goes with Cuba and people
[05:24:53] like Rafael Diaz-Balhar and all the other things.
[05:24:56] Like, Trump is fundamental.
[05:24:57] He's a resort operator and real estate guy
[05:25:00] with half his fucking holdings, if not more,
[05:25:02] in South Florida.
[05:25:03] And so he's intimately familiar with like,
[05:25:05] that as he would say, like the passion
[05:25:07] and the ardor that these fucking, you know,
[05:25:09] Miami Cubans feel.
[05:25:11] I just realized the way that Rubio,
[05:25:13] cause there's been a great contradiction over the past
[05:25:17] about this translating Rubio's neocon policy into MAGA.
[05:25:23] Which is, you know, I'm sure we've all discussed before
[05:25:26] about how it's kind of a square egg round hole.
[05:25:31] whole. Yeah, no, it is actually America first, the Dickey, Israel and the Oblivion. You guys
[05:25:35] don't understand. Right, right. Exactly. Obvious case with Israel. But the the letter
[05:25:40] had been as well. The top of the of the announcement was like, this is a MAGA government. We're
[05:25:47] doing this new policy of strangling Cuba for the sake of always the American people
[05:25:52] and their national security. And then the rest of the document, once you cleared their
[05:25:56] the throat is all stuff about how we're trying to rescue the Cuban people. We're trying to
[05:26:01] bring the yoke off of the necks of the Cuban people. And it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't
[05:26:10] match as MAGA and, you know, Paul Wolffelwitz'ism. But if Rubio wanted to sort of make the nation
[05:26:19] understand how that is, I just realized, you know, our nation, our nations are families.
[05:26:25] You know, we America are one family, but sometimes you have another family, it's still your family.
[05:26:33] You're part of several families.
[05:26:34] You have several families.
[05:26:36] And Cuba is another family that we have.
[05:26:40] Sometimes you counsel a grandma.
[05:26:42] Yeah, I mean whatever, but like Rubio could take some of his, let's say, personal life
[05:26:47] and apply it to the idea of how to effectively
[05:26:51] analogy of both serving American
[05:26:54] MAGA interest and being a free-freening new con
[05:26:59] for is you have multiple families cuba's like the foam party that you want to go to
[05:27:04] Yeah, with a bunch of sexy Cuban twins
[05:27:08] That's I don't know where i'm going with this analogy. I just wanted to mention that you're thinking of Lindsey Graham's head
[05:27:13] again. Well, Marco Rubio also did the phone part. Now I'm thinking of like Lindsey Graham,
[05:27:20] like a blue and old. Like that's which I guess really well it's not a phone party but it's
[05:27:27] like blue breast. You're thinking I'm thinking of just Lindsey Graham in that situation.
[05:27:33] And sort of from all sides. I figure we could sit with the imagery for a second. Yeah,
[05:27:39] But I agree, I think that there will be, if short of a military operation, I do think
[05:27:49] that there's room for Mexico to move some stuff around, have another conversation with
[05:27:55] Trump to try to pull back on this.
[05:27:58] And every day that the government doesn't actually fall is another like demerit or
[05:28:04] rubia.
[05:28:05] And that is the real play here, where it's like if we,
[05:28:10] I think that part of it is that again,
[05:28:12] like Rubio is making a lot of promises to Trump,
[05:28:15] not just about Cuba, by the way,
[05:28:16] it also, I would not be surprised if you drive receipt
[05:28:19] on a lot of the stuff, particularly around Iran as well,
[05:28:21] or at the very least, it's like a very effective conduit
[05:28:25] in Israel and the U.S.
[05:28:26] Because in Israel, it seems like it's in the driver's seat
[05:28:28] on the U.S. Iranian policy.
[05:28:30] But the thing that is so clear to me is that again,
[05:28:34] the longer the Cubans are able to hold out, the longer that it just doesn't dissolve as a country,
[05:28:39] the more and more it's going to end up being like Marco Rubio probably promised President Trump a
[05:28:44] lot of shit. And there's going to be, again, it's, you know, it's who the fuck knows like how
[05:28:49] consequences get felt because literally like Jack Wooted government thugs shot to heritage
[05:28:54] Americans in a, you know, a white city. And, you know, like, bag is like, give me more,
[05:29:03] Sir, give me more please.
[05:29:04] This is what I voted for.
[05:29:06] Yeah, I'm sorry.
[05:29:07] Yeah, I voted for deadwatt blood.
[05:29:10] Yeah.
[05:29:11] It's also why the-
[05:29:12] I love when the vote-wise get punished.
[05:29:14] It's also why we talked about this while we were there,
[05:29:17] like if you did carry out some kind of kinetic policy
[05:29:22] on Cuba, you get the influx of immigrants
[05:29:25] in the United States, which seemed to be a contradiction.
[05:29:28] But I personally don't think that would be a contradiction
[05:29:31] them because they they would just say oh great we get to crack more.
[05:29:34] Well looking at the level border crisis. Yeah, yeah this is great.
[05:29:36] I mean it's the I think and on top of which they're also now like they're yeah they believe
[05:29:44] they believe that they're immune from consequences but there's no such thing as a consequence
[05:29:49] that will affect them again blow up Lebanon and Hezbollah fuck with Iran whatever just because
[05:29:54] you know like to play tariff like you know aggression roulette with the whole fucking
[05:29:59] world. And because America literally hasn't fallen into the sea yet, assume that we're
[05:30:04] actually not going to have consequences. Never mind what's going on with the dollar.
[05:30:08] Never mind that our entire economy is just a few AI companies in a trench coat.
[05:30:14] Pay no attention to that. And so the longer and longer that Republicans are able to exist in
[05:30:20] this environment they've created where consequences to actions don't break through,
[05:30:25] I mean, it prolongs the peril, I'd put it.
[05:30:30] Yeah.
[05:30:31] I'm going to leave you to it.
[05:30:33] But thank you for coming on.
[05:30:38] Good luck on your endeavors.
[05:30:40] Yeah, good luck with the funeral.
[05:30:41] Yeah, you look very dapper.
[05:30:43] Oh, no.
[05:30:47] Yeah.
[05:30:53] I was just about to pull it up the whole stadium I've seen the Israel one, but I want I need this in 4k and in surrounding, you know, Dolby I'm a little worried about playing this because I'm dual streaming on YouTube as well right now so there's a copyright strike potential yeah I am a little worried about that but apparently just take my word for it.
[05:31:14] I'm a little worried about that,
[05:31:15] but apparently just take my word for it.
[05:31:18] They were booing pretty fucking hard.
[05:31:20] Okay, they were booing pretty goddamn hard.
[05:31:23] Please use this to treat Noah to something.
[05:31:25] Thanks, this Prince Punk with a $10 don't know.
[05:31:29] Also Cedar, down under, thank you for the 10.
[05:31:32] Hasan, I have a gift memberships on YouTube as well.
[05:31:36] What do y'all make of the fires in Patagonia?
[05:31:38] Oh God, oh brother.
[05:31:40] Um
[05:31:43] What do you make it I think they're good actually have you heard of the oh no the reason why they're asking is because
[05:31:50] They're claiming immigrants that ever
[05:31:54] Immigrant if a
[05:31:56] Big variety. Oh, no, I didn't hear about this. I heard about this from them. Yeah
[05:32:01] Certain country with a history of awesome respectful tourists. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's I mean I've seen the footage
[05:32:10] I've seen the way that I've seen the way that people are communicating on
[05:32:14] Argentinian Twitter. Yeah, that's what I've seen.
[05:32:17] And I'm like, I'm not sure if this I don't know.
[05:32:20] I don't know what happened here.
[05:32:21] But, you know, I don't know.
[05:32:24] I'm not touching that.
[05:32:25] I already have enough anti-semitism allegations.
[05:32:27] OK, I feel like that's, you know, that's that's enough for me.
[05:32:31] That's I've already done my part.
[05:32:34] Oh, he's going to a funeral. No, it's not going to be going around.
[05:32:37] He's doing a different thing.
[05:32:38] Yeah.
[05:32:40] JD Vance apparently got boot as well, but once again.
[05:32:42] Oh, this one I saw.
[05:32:43] This one's hilarious.
[05:32:44] He's the virtual sport, what an honor for her.
[05:32:46] There is the vice president, JD Vance.
[05:32:48] You got to have the announcers.
[05:32:49] Yeah.
[05:32:50] The announcers who make it.
[05:32:52] Well, but I've just.
[05:32:54] Also, Democratic wins media.
[05:32:57] This is where they hate America.
[05:32:59] You see that?
[05:32:59] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[05:33:00] They fucking, they hate us.
[05:33:02] They hate us, wouldn't help us eat, yeah.
[05:33:04] Why are you celebrating?
[05:33:05] Why are you celebrating them booing America?
[05:33:08] They're booing our country.
[05:33:11] They're not?
[05:33:12] Yeah, those are a lot of booze for them.
[05:33:15] Whistling.
[05:33:16] Oh, those are a lot of booze.
[05:33:18] You hear, like, they're weighing, like,
[05:33:20] you acknowledge it, you not acknowledge it,
[05:33:22] but it's, like, it's all around me.
[05:33:23] Yeah, also, a chance against Jeffrey Epstein today
[05:33:26] and Zana, oh, all the peoples of Islam,
[05:33:28] silence is complicity in the crimes.
[05:33:30] Oh, all the peoples of Islam rise up against the crimes.
[05:33:32] America and the Zionists,
[05:33:33] the accursed Jeffrey summarized it.
[05:34:05] The accursed Jeffrey summarized it is a bar the accursed Jeffrey is a really good. Yeah, it's
[05:34:15] just like
[05:34:17] I wish more nations had backbone dude like I mean I I can't say anything I'm fucking American again
[05:34:23] I'm just sitting in a nice hotel and I'm like, oh, what did you fight for?
[05:34:27] What are you fine? Everyone Petro did the speech we had those glasses and he was just like
[05:34:31] He was right. He cooked. He was right. And he should say it, except then he called up the pedophile and was like, please don't kill me. My country. Please don't do a coup. We're trying to like raise them in a wage. Yeah, isn't that country that was in the civil right country that was in civil war?
[05:34:48] No, that's what I mean. That's why I was like jokingly saying, you know, Claudia Scheinbaum
[05:34:52] and Zora Mamdani are trying to implement modest social democracy. And the only way to do that is
[05:35:00] by sucking up to the pedophilic cabal to the best of your ability to be like, hey, guys, please,
[05:35:05] can we just have this? Like it would be nice if we could do universal child care.
[05:35:09] And if you let us have this, like, you know, I won't say anything else.
[05:35:12] I mean, there's definitely, I do think that there is like a real,
[05:35:16] like Mexico in particular like Trump and the Republicans have actively threatened Mexico and said like we like like on the campaign
[05:35:25] if you said to me like which of the countries and you know basically we're first of all in 2024 and you're saying like oh what are we going to under Trump to what would what country would we go fuck up based on what they were campaigning on it sounded like
[05:35:38] like Mexico. And I don't think the Mexicans have forgotten that, that essentially like when the
[05:35:42] Republicans feel like we don't know which war we want to wage next, that the place that they want
[05:35:46] to go is to like, you know, do Sicario shit in northern Mexico. Yeah. Also, the current position
[05:35:53] of the Mexican government for oil in Cuba, President Claudia Scheinbaum reported that
[05:35:57] her government is carrying out diplomatic work so the Mexicans can say crude oil to Cuba
[05:36:01] without being subject to sanctions in the United States. As you know, we are engaged in
[05:36:04] of diplomatic efforts to be able to re-forward oil to Cuba. Obviously, we do not want Mexico to
[05:36:09] face sanctions, but we are in that process of dialogue, she explained. Pressure from Washington,
[05:36:14] President Donald Trump signed an executive order approving additional tariffs on products from
[05:36:17] countries that sell crude oil to Cuba. Last Monday, Trump stated, it's a failed nation,
[05:36:20] Mexico is going to stop sending them oil. In 2025, Pemex sold $496 million worth of
[05:36:26] oil to Cuba, which represents less than 1% of its production and 0.1% of its total petroleum
[05:36:31] in product sales, Victor Rodriguez, head of Pemex, explained,
[05:36:34] we do it for humanitarian reasons,
[05:36:36] also for commercial reasons, it's part of our trade.
[05:36:39] And like, you know, there is like the,
[05:36:44] one of the goals of like the current Cuban government,
[05:36:46] and this was something that, you know,
[05:36:48] President Diaz-Canal was emphasizing yesterday
[05:36:50] in his press conference,
[05:36:52] is that they are trying very, very hard
[05:36:55] to move away from a system where they have to
[05:36:57] import much oil at all.
[05:36:59] You know, it's, it's everybody talks about wanting to do a green transition and like putting in solar panels and all those things. And it's like, well, let me tell you China and given those things away for free.
[05:37:08] And moreover, the, you know, even if, like, even if they were obviously at the US and clearly like want a strategic interview in some way, but what Cuba is trying to do, but just simply does not have the resources is to, you know, do a lot of what Vietnam has done and try and give people solar panels that they can generate power themselves, sell some stuff back to the grid.
[05:37:28] I mean, these are ambitious modernization projects
[05:37:31] for any poor country.
[05:37:32] And it's just not feasible without, you know,
[05:37:36] essentially like the U.S. taking its boot off the throat of it.
[05:37:39] So it's like part of like what the,
[05:37:41] like what the U.S. is trying to do timing wise
[05:37:44] is get in under the wire.
[05:37:47] 81% of wire would, I mean,
[05:37:51] I like how they've never viewed him favorably,
[05:37:53] which makes obviously a lot of sense
[05:37:54] considering like he called them all rapists.
[05:37:57] Well, there was a point where he got down to 69 disapproval.
[05:38:01] He got to 20 approval.
[05:38:02] When was that? May of 2025? Why the fuck?
[05:38:06] Did he say like, cloudy as shine bombs?
[05:38:08] So we're still cheaper than oil.
[05:38:09] It's, well, well, you tell the Cubans that.
[05:38:12] I'm sure they'll get right on it.
[05:38:16] I do think that one of the other people
[05:38:18] in the Mexico equation is like,
[05:38:20] like fucking, like,
[05:38:22] it's not just like the military disruption the US could do.
[05:38:25] Like the US, if it wants to, could tank the Mexican economy
[05:38:28] with whatever it does in the Mexican, you know,
[05:38:31] it could do, like it has enormous capacity for disruption.
[05:38:35] And Lord knows that there's a bunch of like tattooed assholes
[05:38:38] who carry around, you know, who wear beards and big guns
[05:38:41] and are obsessed with the Jeffrey Donovan character
[05:38:44] in Sicario who wanna just like immediately go in there
[05:38:47] and fuck shit up.
[05:38:47] Like I do think like I want Shinebonne to do more,
[05:38:51] but I'm not gonna sit here and pretend
[05:38:53] like I don't understand pretty explicitly
[05:38:55] like what are the pressures that she's under
[05:38:56] and what she's probably being threatened with.
[05:38:58] We can't even give other countries permission
[05:39:01] by like at least creating enough internal ruckus here
[05:39:04] at the domestic front with like a loud movement
[05:39:09] that is saying enough to military intervention
[05:39:13] enough to these sorts of sanctions
[05:39:14] that's demanding an uncompromising position
[05:39:17] on sanctions relief that like that, you know
[05:39:21] We give courage to other countries to lean on to it
[05:39:24] by maybe even leaning on other Democrats.
[05:39:26] If the Democrats listen to the demands
[05:39:29] being made by the public,
[05:39:30] but the demands are not being made by the public,
[05:39:31] the Democrats are not even remotely invested
[05:39:33] in doing any of that.
[05:39:34] So the expectation can't be that foreign countries
[05:39:37] decide to fucking go out there
[05:39:38] and take shot in the dark to help.
[05:39:40] If there was, and this is where it's like,
[05:39:42] again, if Democrats, if Democrats
[05:39:46] were the progressive wing of the Democratic Party
[05:39:49] as like the Ascendant Force electorally, so it seems,
[05:39:53] within the opposition party of the United States,
[05:39:55] can't be fucking bothered to even say,
[05:39:57] well, that's not good.
[05:39:59] Then like, why should other countries
[05:40:00] that are led by people who are under direct
[05:40:03] and explicit threat and who are responsible
[05:40:05] for the lives of millions, you know, act in such a way
[05:40:08] without the knowledge that there's gonna be
[05:40:10] a corresponding force in the US
[05:40:11] to like at least try and meet them?
[05:40:13] Because you know, in the case of Cuba,
[05:40:14] that's where it's like, you know,
[05:40:17] There's just, it's fucking crickets, man.
[05:40:19] I've been spending the last week,
[05:40:21] both talking to people in Washington,
[05:40:23] talking to Cubans, talking to people in the media here,
[05:40:27] trying to figure out like some nexus of the three
[05:40:29] to get people just like talking
[05:40:31] to educate people who don't know much,
[05:40:33] to get something of a conversation going.
[05:40:35] And there's a lot of people,
[05:40:36] far many more people than me
[05:40:37] with way more knowledge and expertise
[05:40:39] and connections working overtime to do the same thing.
[05:40:42] And just what you thought,
[05:40:43] what the news is is not great.
[05:40:46] It's incredibly difficult to reach.
[05:40:49] Yeah, I just-
[05:40:53] On a happier note.
[05:40:54] No, I'm just reading the headline.
[05:40:56] Oh, yeah.
[05:40:57] He's telling Michelle to fuck off.
[05:41:00] White House advice for people close to the Trump
[05:41:01] administration are growing pressure
[05:41:02] to win the Venezuelan opposition leader,
[05:41:03] Maria Cortina-Michaldo,
[05:41:05] viewing her recent remarks about when elections
[05:41:07] could be held potentially undermining their work
[05:41:09] in Venezuela.
[05:41:10] Yeah, dude, because they're not going to have
[05:41:11] any fucking elections and you're not going to be a part
[05:41:13] of that fucking government.
[05:41:14] Yeah.
[05:41:15] That's awesome that they like that they like made Lady Guaido and they got her the fucking Nobel and then like oh no wait
[05:41:21] No, no, no, you're not supposed to get that. No, that was supposed to be for our guy fuck. Yeah. No, that was awesome
[05:41:26] Let's see a new banger coming out from Tom McDonald once again. I don't know he might copy strike me if I listen to this
[05:41:32] They always said that Charlie Kirk was a Nazi then they said I can't listen never mind that you guys spared because of the YouTube
[05:41:41] Copyright restrictions that we're being real. Okay. You just got spared
[05:41:45] Chatters otherwise, I mean no, I got spared to
[05:41:49] Shoulders it sounded kind of good. I
[05:41:52] found a candid picture of no, I'm bringing arriving back in
[05:41:57] It looks like that picture like we're stallings of the when the email they they got Stalin Trotsky. Yeah, they get a Trotsky's gone
[05:42:06] It does look like that. It's got a little bit of that flavor. Oh, but that's oh, but that's a photo of love
[05:42:11] Is that oh, that's the
[05:42:13] That grandma. Yeah, I believe so in the background. I hope it's not
[05:42:19] L'Abrigato. This is the Canon event. It's on you have to listen to it.
[05:42:24] Blink 1488. Yeah. All right. I mean, I'm tired, dude. Plus, I got
[05:42:33] obligations to to attend. I got something going on. After this.
[05:42:42] That I am I got a is the grandma landing.
[05:42:46] Kyle, most mentions of the Epstein files. That's true.
[05:42:52] What is this Cornell University let Nazis visits in their
[05:42:56] main thoroughfares and why Washington is like I still
[05:42:58] haven't eaten yet today and it's fucking 8pm bro. Are you
[05:43:01] hungry. I could eat. All right, let's see. Should I order food? I mean, or
[05:43:08] Oh, let's do this. You want to have you have you do you know anything about the
[05:43:12] anti-Semitism? I know that she I relate to her. She's like, is all the right
[05:43:17] wingers and all the like Jewish right wingers are going in on her being like
[05:43:19] she's like she's a reformer. Yes, she was like, oh, I'm like, I
[05:43:23] millions of bad Jew or whatever. And they're just like, see, look at the
[05:43:28] Person they got to represent the Jews isn't this a fuck it isn't this a crime
[05:43:32] They got somebody who doesn't obey all the laws because as we know the majority of Jews are fucking sticklers for the goddamn fasting
[05:43:39] Yeah, but also come on
[05:43:42] So I'm I'm Donnie basically Hugo Chavez forcing the yeshiva's to learn how to read
[05:43:49] Improving the literacy rate. God it's listening. It's that's what she's that's why people are mad at her
[05:43:55] But because she said that like she's a receiver you should reform it's like it's kitchen performance. I will listen man. I mean
[05:44:03] It's it's a complicated subject. Okay. Oh really? Yeah, it's really complicated
[05:44:08] There's a lot in Jewish treat like people think of you know Jews as like people of the book, right?
[05:44:13] But sometimes there's too much book. Yeah, like sometimes you some people just aren't supposed to know how to do anything more than like add
[05:44:20] And subtract like multiplication tables. That's not in the Bible
[05:44:23] I'm just saying it's not in the Bible if you're in Kamatria if she pulls off education reform
[05:44:29] I feel like Zoran's gonna lose the the block that he have no
[05:44:33] People I still think I'm a believer against I don't have any evidence for this beyond like what I remember seeing on election
[05:44:39] I which is that there are like these neighborhoods in borough Park like the heart of like ultra-orthodox Jewish
[05:44:45] populations in New York City
[05:44:46] We're like Zoran just one outright
[05:44:48] And it makes, and it's like, oh, like he won not just because like the rabbi told his people like votes for show around, but also because like they want to fast and free boss. Yeah, they want fast and free buses.
[05:44:59] They're like, hey, he looks like a guy who likes being alive or like, you know, you know, like, hey, like, I think it's good that we care about our fellow man and, you know, whatever.
[05:45:09] whatever. I'm optimistic that such measures will actually win over people in that community
[05:45:17] for sure. Because that's the other thing, by the way. Let's not pretend that the fucking
[05:45:24] psycho patriarchal hegemonic control of ultra-orthodox sex and Jewish life are not... The people
[05:45:32] are crying out for this shit. There are whole non-profits and other groups that
[05:45:36] like staffed by ex-orthodox Jews or people who are still in the community but are ostracized
[05:45:41] who's like entire purpose is like trying to lobby politicians in the media to like give a fuck and
[05:45:46] like the slightest fuck about like hey listen I know you love the orthodox Jewish vote but please
[05:45:50] like help us you know we even see like the gender discrimination is obviously substantial
[05:45:54] but also like a lot of us don't know math and read so it's not like like the calls are coming
[05:45:58] from a lot of people who are trapped in that particular house like Jensen. Yeah well he's
[05:46:04] He's doing it. He's combating anti-Semitism by doing anti-Semitism, education reform.
[05:46:10] Let's work with Yahfed, a non-profit that has been outspoken over the level of education
[05:46:15] being taught at some Yeshivas. Former controller Brad Lander says she's perfect for the role.
[05:46:21] She both loves what New York is as a diverse Jewish city. She loves that and wants to
[05:46:28] fight for it. And at the same time, she knows that we keep each other safe, making sure that
[05:46:36] we're working with Muslims, with African-Americans, with Latinos.
[05:46:39] Wiesin did not respond to our request for a comment, but in a statement said she'll continue to
[05:46:44] ensure that Jewish safety and belonging remains at the core of this administration's vision.
[05:46:49] At City Hall, Lisa Rosner, CBS News, New York.
[05:46:52] I'm not going to lie. I looked up her background a little bit to be like I wonder if if I ever do a
[05:47:01] collaboration with Zara on ever again if like the the ADL backed if the ADL backed newspapers
[05:47:12] were gonna like call on her to make a statement about my anti-Semitism. Have you seen this?
[05:47:19] I'm going to Canada University of British Columbia and the Canadian Jewish advocacy group has urged MPs to stop my hate from crossing into Canada.
[05:47:32] Canadians are so annoying man they're like oh we're a separate country we have like all these other customs then you pay attention to them.
[05:47:40] Yeah messed up will you and I'll be posting blue scares and solidarity with the kid from the commercial row.
[05:47:46] Ro, I'm already a blue square gang.
[05:47:49] That means that we can bully the kid, right?
[05:47:54] That's what that means?
[05:47:55] First you get to bully him
[05:47:56] and then you put the blue square on top of it.
[05:47:58] It was really funny, like that commercial,
[05:48:01] like it has to be said that it was-
[05:48:03] Did you see that the name of the black kid was Bilal too?
[05:48:06] So it was a double Monty.
[05:48:07] They hit both Muslim and black at the same time?
[05:48:10] I'm like in my head, I'm just like hearing like a fish pee.
[05:48:15] I think that is so cute.
[05:48:16] Yeah, why not take the post-it off?
[05:48:17] Doesn't make any sense.
[05:48:18] Also, Robert Kraft was Epstein's neighbor.
[05:48:22] I mean, Robert Kraft, he's a lot more than Epstein's neighbor.
[05:48:26] In fact, he's a massage enthusiast.
[05:48:28] Yeah.
[05:48:29] And you can Google Robert Kraft's massage
[05:48:31] and what I'm talking about.
[05:48:35] I mean, it's also just so like,
[05:48:38] that wasn't like when I got bullied by my friends,
[05:48:40] you know, and like, you know,
[05:48:41] this was more of a fun way,
[05:48:42] kind of like, like, you know, teasing or whatever, like the
[05:48:46] anti-Semitism was way more advanced.
[05:48:49] Then a posted note.
[05:48:50] Yeah, or just come out like that gave people so many ideas.
[05:48:56] Yeah.
[05:49:01] And like,
[05:49:03] bronze, the anti-Semitism stars, was a liberal scientist was
[05:49:06] formerly the PD of the New York Jewish Agenda genocide
[05:49:09] and I am worried what you, MDSA in the wake of the El-Oxa flood.
[05:49:14] Yeah, I mean, I mean, Cathy Hockel also literally
[05:49:21] over and over again supported Israel's right to genocide
[05:49:24] and Zoran called her a disgusting genocide air
[05:49:29] on numerous occasions.
[05:49:31] 17 year old has been charged with making a terroristic
[05:49:33] threat as a hate crime after emailing hundreds of students
[05:49:36] who will a promise to kill all the Jews.
[05:49:39] Yeah, I feel like that's like way more advanced.
[05:49:42] Nobody's doing like dirty juice stuff anymore.
[05:49:44] It's just like, oh, like, oh, you thought,
[05:49:47] you thought you had like a little,
[05:49:48] you had this little leave it to be very interesting.
[05:49:51] You're not fucking wearing it, like, that's crazy.
[05:49:53] First of all, it's really fucked up
[05:49:55] that they're calling out.
[05:49:57] Wait, I was like, two PM school walkout,
[05:49:59] we killed the juice.
[05:50:00] Yeah, it's like, come on.
[05:50:02] Okay, listen.
[05:50:04] Just because James Fishback is a unique,
[05:50:09] a unique opportunity for the governor's race in Florida, okay? Just because he does stuff
[05:50:17] like this every now and then doesn't mean that we can't have a more reasonable approach.
[05:50:22] What? So why is- To our advocacy with G.M. Stritchford.
[05:50:24] Okay. Explain to me this, like, I understand he's not pulling anywhere significant.
[05:50:29] He's like just a griper who has a bunch of weird sex stuff in his history,
[05:50:34] like to put it gently. Why is he, are we aware of him?
[05:50:40] Um, because he's just like constantly, he went to a college campus and said, uh, they're feeding
[05:50:46] children goyslop. Yeah. Top tar. He said, top tar is our goyslop. He said that. Yeah.
[05:50:55] Remember the, the best version of that, I still remember. I feel like, I feel like he's
[05:51:00] definitely spotlighted this. I think about it all the time. The guy complaining about the
[05:51:04] cookie that they give him on the plane. Oh the Delta! The Goi-Brick! The Goi-Brick! I love that so much!
[05:51:12] Goi-Brick was the first time I saw like a Goi-Portmanteau and it's like you know it's like a real before
[05:51:18] and after for me. Like that was unreal. I love that! Goi-Brick. Calling the Delta Biscoff cookie.
[05:51:26] Oh I saw this video. This is the one where he's like this is a discreet like what we feed our
[05:51:31] students yeah this is what he says is good we're feeding him boys are our our
[05:51:35] high school cafeterias should be run by great local businesses small business
[05:51:40] restaurants all hell yeah dude that have local labor that use Florida cattle
[05:51:45] Florida produce Florida fruit and yes Florida orange juice they should take
[05:51:50] over our cafeterias what's with the pop tarts in the Broward County public
[05:51:54] schools in the cafeterias I'm not saying that the test scores are
[05:51:58] result of the pop tarts but if you wanted kids to fail if you wanted to
[05:52:04] set up our kids for failure you would feed them the absolute goy slopp in our
[05:52:09] cafeteria oh my god and you see the kids immediately like
[05:52:17] yeah they're like sig hiling to you in the background oh yeah they were so
[05:52:22] base dude I love fucking shooting on
[05:52:24] voice lob oh my god in Ross
[05:52:28] yeah also I just want to point out how
[05:52:33] diverse the crowd is I mean I think
[05:52:37] about that Matthew Petty tweet all the
[05:52:38] time you see the one about like Honduras
[05:52:41] yeah that guy yeah the Honduran Nazi
[05:52:44] who like post like he like put you like
[05:52:45] it's like a photo of a Honduran Nazi
[05:52:47] with a swastika so Honduran Nazis
[05:52:49] nationally parliament he's the
[05:52:50] whitest motherfucking yeah they have
[05:52:52] I haven't developed yet to reach it, you know.
[05:52:55] It's like, you know how underdeveloped they are.
[05:52:56] The Nazis are still white.
[05:52:57] Yeah, exactly.
[05:52:59] We've moved past that point.
[05:53:00] Like, now the modern neo-Nazi movement is comprised of Jews.
[05:53:04] Of Jews and people.
[05:53:06] Jews are South Asians, mainly.
[05:53:08] Yeah, the fucking guy that put the black,
[05:53:11] the sun and rad on the Rhonda Sanctuary.
[05:53:13] Oh yeah, Huckman, yeah.
[05:53:14] Yeah, that dude is Jewish.
[05:53:15] Yeah.
[05:53:16] What the fuck?
[05:53:17] He's Jewish and he's like a hanger on.
[05:53:22] Like he's now he's like, still has a career.
[05:53:24] Yeah.
[05:53:24] Because enough of this one is I saw this.
[05:53:26] Lethality maxing, low cortisol locked in, lethality maxing.
[05:53:33] I mean, how do you look at this and not think
[05:53:35] we deserve nuclear holocaust?
[05:53:36] Like actually, what the fuck are we doing?
[05:53:38] I mean, it's so stupid.
[05:53:41] It's just stupid.
[05:53:43] Like these are dumb fucking people.
[05:53:44] And it's not even going to be like Russia.
[05:53:46] It's going to be us.
[05:53:47] Like we're going to accidentally deploy the nukes
[05:53:49] on ourselves, you know?
[05:53:50] in the 1960s, it's like, oh yeah, we're saved for nuclear war because of the heroic actions
[05:53:55] of a Soviet submarine captain in the Caribbean who realizes that he's being hit with depth
[05:54:00] charges and that we don't have to initiate a nuclear exchange, and so forth. And the contemporary
[05:54:04] version of that is going to be some lanyard fat ass who's going to be like, oh, see a false alarm
[05:54:11] and then immediately hit the New Kansas City button because American Handable Doctrine has
[05:54:15] and has been activated.
[05:54:17] Yeah, but on ourselves.
[05:54:18] Exactly, that's what it looks like.
[05:54:19] Yeah, nowhere else.
[05:54:20] No, no, we are going to be-
[05:54:22] We're going to deploy our nuclear warheads on ourselves
[05:54:24] on the American heartland.
[05:54:26] Like they will like fucking, like it's,
[05:54:29] they'll like, is a, I mean, fuck man, we're already doing it.
[05:54:32] Like remember when they shot a lot,
[05:54:33] they did a live fire exercise.
[05:54:35] Oh yeah. Over live fire.
[05:54:36] And there were like people who was like windows,
[05:54:38] I think like, like their windshields like broke
[05:54:40] and people found like live,
[05:54:42] I think they found a live munition.
[05:54:43] It's a broken arrow already.
[05:54:44] We've already had, there's already,
[05:54:46] and that was when we were more competent.
[05:54:48] No, exactly what I'm saying.
[05:54:49] We've had these episodes when like,
[05:54:53] the world was just objectively like a smarter,
[05:54:55] if you know, granted, even more violent in many ways,
[05:54:58] but still a smarter place
[05:54:59] where people spoke in complete sentences
[05:55:01] and hadn't like, like the concept of brain rot
[05:55:03] hadn't applied yet, you know.
[05:55:05] And now, like trust, like I, you know,
[05:55:11] like I don't like, I'm gonna like put
[05:55:13] fucking bottled water in my basement and it ain't going to be because of the fucking Chinese it's
[05:55:17] going to be because like a missile launch from Arizona went fucking awry and then went the other way
[05:55:23] yeah oh my god oh notice how they hide the hero's faces yeah because that's not a real person yeah
[05:55:31] also it is it is funny that we are yeah i keep saying this over and over again but like
[05:55:36] United States of Israel with like the DHS. Dude, it makes them so, makes them so mad. Yeah. Oh my god. There's nothing.
[05:55:44] Nick Fuentes getting all buttered because dude, that was, that was hilarious.
[05:55:47] Nick Fuentes and every liberal that's like Israel first lost their minds for the entire week.
[05:55:53] They're like, wait a minute, like we're supposed to just get mad at ice or Nick was like, no, we're supposed to love ice.
[05:55:57] They're two different things. Why would you make this? You can't put peanut butter and chocolate together like that, man.
[05:56:03] Would you make this comparison? It's unfair man, and the rest that Hen Mazik was defending Nick Fuentes when I called him a
[05:56:12] gay Mexican man
[05:56:18] No, this is literally they're going to be like say what you will about Adolf Hitler at least he wasn't a son piker
[05:56:25] Yeah, no, that's where that's where we are man. I fucking hate this shit. Yeah. No fucking hate this shit
[05:56:30] I mean, yeah, because well Benjamin Aow did a version of that when he was like Adolf Hitler didn't want to kill all the Jews
[05:56:41] He actually had a plan it was eliminating the Jews Madagascar is a beautiful place
[05:56:50] Yeah, what does this tell us what does this tell?
[05:56:55] He's like yeah, the Grand Mufti taught him to hate the Jew
[05:56:58] Yeah, that one. I love it.
[05:57:01] Listen, Adolf Hitler actually, he was a great fan of Mark Shigal, the paintings of Mark Shigal
[05:57:10] and the stories of Sholam Alephim. But then he met the Grand Moufti.
[05:57:15] Yeah, the Grand Moufti taught him anti-Semitism. He would not have been anti-Semitic. He
[05:57:19] just wanted to give the Jews a nice vacation to Madagascar. That's what it was. It's
[05:57:24] called the Madagascar plan.
[05:57:27] Um, what is this newly resurfaced kid?
[05:57:30] Flip of kid rocket.
[05:57:31] What's talk 99 saying?
[05:57:32] Monica Lewinsky is a fucking home.
[05:57:33] Bill Kuntz is a goddamn pin before launching into a song balls in your
[05:57:36] mouth.
[05:57:37] Kid Rock is performing at TPU is his Christian focus.
[05:57:39] All American half-time.
[05:57:40] I mean, everybody tells that he's a fucking wait, Kid Rock isn't a family guys.
[05:57:44] Yeah.
[05:57:46] Oh, did you see the deep undercover Benjamin and the Alus?
[05:57:49] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[05:57:50] This was awesome.
[05:57:51] I love this.
[05:57:52] I mean, I it's also what I really fucking hate them now is how everybody since like Elon Musk like they turn Twitter into this shit
[05:57:59] Like everybody just writes these like fucking essays
[05:58:01] Yeah, and so there isn't actually a voice to it anymore. And so it's just like, oh cool like I'm already bored reading this
[05:58:08] But it's like a who'd Brock and and Jeffrey if you when they were talking about Israel's demographic concerns around like the growth of the
[05:58:15] Arab population you see a rock he wanted to make everybody. Yeah, and if everybody is Jewish
[05:58:20] than a son nobody's Jewish yeah I could be Jewish in that situation and I'm
[05:58:25] worse than Adolf Hitler so that's you can't have that no it's you see it's
[05:58:30] and like it's also just such a the Barack stuff is like such a I'm not gonna
[05:58:34] say it's a get out of jail free card because I do not think Israel is coming
[05:58:37] out of this have seen shit looking all that good but it is extremely clear
[05:58:41] that like like why it's just so obvious what he's fucking doing yeah he'd be
[05:58:45] better off not acknowledging it at all like I think anyway instead of like
[05:58:49] like making it really obvious that he's like just trying to play like footsie with Barak
[05:58:53] on there.
[05:58:54] Yeah.
[05:58:55] Or play foots, sorry, like, like, like, like, play footsie with the issue by like blaming
[05:58:59] everything on Barak.
[05:59:01] All right.
[05:59:02] That'll be all for today.
[05:59:03] I feel like this is a good point to end it on.
[05:59:06] Shout out to Noah Cullin.
[05:59:07] Thank you for coming on.
[05:59:11] Another six hour half day stream for you guys with half day Hossie.
[05:59:16] Um, yeah, that's, that's, uh, that's all I got and, uh, tomorrow I'm not entirely sure.
[05:59:24] I think tomorrow I'm going to do, uh, the, the, uh, the claire valdez or, or, Claire
[05:59:31] thing.
[05:59:33] My brain is like, my brain is fried.
[05:59:37] Um, we're, uh, tomorrow, I think, wait, what am I going to do tomorrow?
[05:59:44] No. Okay, well tomorrow I got IRLs, okay? I'm pretty sure I'm going to do an IRL tomorrow
[05:59:52] at some point. And we're going to, I'm going to have Felix Biedermann on as well. But I'll let
[06:00:01] you guys know. I'll let you guys know. Did Don Lemon crash out suck your energy? No,
[06:00:09] It wasn't the Don Lemon crash out wasn't even a crash out
[06:00:12] Except for Anna Navarro's present there. That was great
[06:00:18] Well, yeah, that'll be all everybody
[06:00:21] love you all and
[06:00:24] Yeah, tomorrow's another day
[06:00:39] Just trickling in, has helped people hay.
[06:00:48] Sunny Los Angeles, California, says her song.
[06:00:56] Stunned out to the stunned out to the top, it just begun.
[06:01:01] Just be gone.
[06:01:07] There it is again.
[06:01:11] A sort of streaming.
[06:01:15] A sort of streaming.
[06:01:19] There it is again.
[06:01:24] A sort of streaming.
[06:01:27] I saw the streaming
[06:01:32] Revealing the P.O. box
[06:01:38] Uncle U-Gur's face
[06:01:42] Stardust scarred at you from
[06:01:48] Great names take on price
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