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02-12-2026 · 8h 29m

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[00:07:30] Scunning around by an introduction, starting off the day
[00:07:39] All the chatter is dripping in, I'll sell people hey
[00:07:47] Suddenly in Los Angeles, California says you're so good
[00:07:53] It's done locked in the stomach, to the top it's just begun
[00:08:02] Cause there is again, sun and streaming
[00:08:09] A solid streamer, there is again, a solid streamer
[00:08:19] The sun is streamin'
[00:08:24] Reveal when a shiny is trained
[00:08:27] Ten tile plates
[00:08:31] Sun and us min' chatter loves
[00:08:35] Gave him great names, Christ
[00:08:39] Zora, I'm winnin' and I see
[00:08:42] What to back with the force
[00:08:47] The rogue ain't nothing left to me at all, him most ill of course.
[00:08:54] The Charlie Kirk is a assassination fear and online show.
[00:09:02] Day four fucking years of this, and plenty more to go.
[00:09:12] Doing fun stuff tomorrow, throw PBS up on the screen
[00:09:20] And then made a reaction brought to you by this life's suffering
[00:09:28] Cause the airing ends again, I saw this dream in
[00:09:34] I saw this dream and everything, so again, I saw this dream and I saw this dream and
[00:09:47] I can't doubt in the DNC, I fell in March that good, I'd call mad in the prom
[00:09:57] The Shuffdown People's Throats, C.B.S. is railing news, a coup, a regime falls.
[00:10:09] A full-born fascist takeover and steal the duty calls.
[00:10:17] Total radicalization coming out to see.
[00:10:23] The system went in always failed, it's up to you and me.
[00:10:30] All these daily streets, weather soon, weather long.
[00:10:38] I've held no ends of people keeping you there right on my mind.
[00:10:49] Because there is a game, a song is dreaming
[00:10:56] A song is dreaming, there is a game, a song is dreaming
[00:11:06] A song is dreaming, but hey, what can you say?
[00:11:13] That's PBS for you, but he'll play games like that too.
[00:11:19] Just you wait.
[00:11:22] Say, hey, why can you say, hey, that's PBS for you.
[00:11:29] But he'll move on, I'll soon catch you away.
[00:11:34] But I, but I, but I, but I, I,
[00:11:37] What can you say, hey, that's PBS for you.
[00:11:42] I help all your lungs will soon
[00:11:45] Just you wait, Shutter, Shutter, Shutter, Whether, or I may
[00:11:50] Working in said hey, Match BBS, What are you?
[00:11:54] Mirus, do you want to do it on everybody?
[00:11:56] Health to the device, real soon
[00:11:58] Just you wait
[00:12:01] I hope everything's having a fantastic week
[00:12:04] Fantastic afternoon, I think
[00:12:06] That's pretty annoying, matter where you are on the World of the Muskler Plaker, this also had our brug, as coming to you
[00:12:09] I'm going to say thank you.
[00:12:11] Live from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, ladies and gentlemen, that was a spectacular
[00:12:20] revamp of the 2026 revamp of Hassanah streaming from just super my family, 2026 edition,
[00:12:31] what an incredible opener.
[00:12:33] Normally that's the closer, that's the outro.
[00:12:35] You guys might not know that, but normally that's the actual outro.
[00:12:39] I should do the graphic but I also bought it, yeah.
[00:12:41] Yes, I mean, we're live, we're live and I hope all the boys
[00:12:45] girls and MB's are having a fantastic one because today's
[00:12:47] beautiful day today is a wonderful day today.
[00:12:49] It is Thursday, Thursday and we're all Thursday,
[00:12:52] aren't we ladies and gentlemen, folks, boys, girls and MB's.
[00:12:56] Shout out to the chillax, shout out to just you for my
[00:12:58] family, shout out to all the beautiful edits that we're in there.
[00:13:02] I'm drinking a coffee, a wayway, ho ho ho.
[00:13:09] My favorite kind of travel is when I'm on the same time zone, you know what I mean?
[00:13:13] The same time zone, different country, no bag milk, are you gonna speak at XGC's house? Yes.
[00:13:19] Shout out shout out to the shout out to Canada. I've so much to say about Canada. Oh my god.
[00:13:25] Oh my god. I've never been here and it's so funny. Like I get it. I instantly. I got I got in and like
[00:13:33] First of all, the board of patrol is so nice.
[00:13:35] What the fuck's up with that?
[00:13:37] Like there's baddies everywhere. Asian baddies galore, okay?
[00:13:42] All of the board of patrol were baddies.
[00:13:44] Which is, I don't know if they do that like IDS style.
[00:13:48] I don't know what the fuck that's about.
[00:13:49] Like I don't know if they like purposely
[00:13:52] made it happen like that.
[00:13:55] Um, but Vancouver is gorgeous.
[00:13:58] Vancouver is beautiful.
[00:14:00] Canada is beautiful. Canada is gorgeous. I think I think I just don't understand why
[00:14:09] people don't realize that. I know a lot of a Canada but it's never been here before and it is
[00:14:16] fucking awesome. Baddies are in hibernation come back in the sun dress. Please collaborate with Kyle
[00:14:23] or even team up with Kyle and majority report for a triple threat stream. Sure. I mean I have done that
[00:14:28] many, many times over, but would do it in the future. Did you see English, French, Chinese,
[00:14:33] language, sounds of the airport? I did. Okay. First of all, first of all, let's get it started.
[00:14:39] You know, FD went in. And this, what is this?
[00:14:51] We're living. I don't know. We're all living. So let me get started by saying first of all,
[00:14:57] All this is part of the broadcast right tell you about my personal news about what's going on
[00:15:01] to the world of the son house that I've been buggering between the time period where I
[00:15:03] press the stock human button and press the star streaming button so help me God, that's what I'm
[00:15:06] going to do right.
[00:15:07] Um, uh, there's a China Maxing article that came out on GQ, obviously talking about that
[00:15:12] as well, but, uh, did you get a Tim Horton's yet?
[00:15:18] You need to get a double double.
[00:15:19] No, I haven't gotten a Tim Horton's yet.
[00:15:21] I fucking flew in.
[00:15:23] All right.
[00:15:24] All right.
[00:15:25] I flew in.
[00:15:26] flew in and all I did was take a shower. All right first and foremost let's get started.
[00:15:33] Oh shit. That's crazy that the the room services here already that's fast as
[00:15:39] fuck dude here take a look at this XC clip while I go get the door.
[00:15:56] You know, it's really great.
[00:15:58] What's my place on the dial button down?
[00:16:00] Can you jump in the light?
[00:16:01] You're supposed to do the correct answer.
[00:16:03] I'm all the right.
[00:16:05] No, that's my position.
[00:16:06] I'm all right.
[00:16:08] Then take a minute.
[00:16:09] See, he's got Benzler?
[00:16:10] This is what he's got Benzler.
[00:16:11] I could make it.
[00:16:13] I could make it.
[00:16:14] I could make it.
[00:16:15] I could make it.
[00:16:16] I'm talking about it.
[00:16:17] I'm talking about it.
[00:16:18] I could not get it.
[00:16:19] I could not get it.
[00:16:20] I could not care about it.
[00:16:21] I couldn't get it.
[00:16:24] You need his waiting.
[00:16:25] I mean
[00:16:44] It's kind of funny kind of interesting to see
[00:16:48] The line of level getting fucking rolled so hard. That's pretty funny
[00:16:52] Have you seen the American boy Chinese skier who took a second all dropped out beautiful
[00:16:57] cousin or skit customer ski suit robbers who's a pizotte yes I've been a fucking fan of
[00:17:02] her for years at this point are you kidding me she's she's dope I was trying to max
[00:17:07] it from the jump she's American she's American boy she ABC that went to China and is
[00:17:13] competing for China what do you think of course I'm aware of her is the Mike two
[00:17:18] bank. Yeah, I lean goo. Mike buzzing. When I speak, you mean, I'll lower the game a
[00:17:34] little bit. Hopefully that'll fix the buzzing a little bit. It's a buzz line. The
[00:17:39] buzzing you might be hearing is from outside of the noise game. Maybe Mike is fine.
[00:17:42] I love them, coffee slurbs came. Thank you. Anyway, yeah,
[00:17:49] Gallible no longer measure a presidential thing. Okay, okay, hold on, hold on.
[00:17:52] Let's just do the thing that I wanted to do first, okay, which is personal news.
[00:17:56] So, I ended the broadcast last night. You guys already know.
[00:18:02] End of the broadcast last night, and I had to wake up super early.
[00:18:05] And I had the fly at like 4 a.m.
[00:18:12] I had a flight at like 6 to come to Canada.
[00:18:17] To come to Canada.
[00:18:19] So basically, how's the jet lag is really funny?
[00:18:23] No jet lag whatsoever.
[00:18:24] I went to bed at like 10.
[00:18:26] I purposely didn't even bring my iPad with me because you know on the screen
[00:18:30] screened you, right? Like I personally didn't bring my iPad with me, so I was like I'm
[00:18:33] forced myself to read and which is precisely what I did this morning, which was cool.
[00:18:38] I was able to also knock out of the flight to those in an air canada, a business class. So
[00:18:45] I was able to actually kind of knock out for a couple hours too. I had like a new breakfast,
[00:18:50] which is an English, it means breakfast.
[00:18:53] I read a little bit, had a devastating experience at, like, did not think that we were
[00:19:01] going to actually make it.
[00:19:02] I forgot that Canada is an international flight, even though it's not out of the international
[00:19:09] terminal.
[00:19:12] And March needed to pack a bag, even though it's a fucking one day trip because he's
[00:19:17] like flying in New York after anyway.
[00:19:21] So basically, don't make that mistake that we did, okay, just remember that it isn't
[00:19:28] international.
[00:19:29] So like luckily we were there exactly an hour before they closed check in.
[00:19:34] So we were able to like check in our luggage, right?
[00:19:36] And I never check in my pelican, but I checked it in for the first time because March
[00:19:39] convinced me, he's like, bro, don't bring it in.
[00:19:41] Don't bring it on the flight.
[00:19:42] Why are you carrying this all the time?
[00:19:43] I'm like, I don't want to risk it.
[00:19:44] I want to risk it.
[00:19:45] It's all of my stuff.
[00:19:46] I won't be able to live stream for my, for my little rug rats and they'll lose their minds.
[00:19:50] go crazy if I don't live stream if I'm in Canada, and I just do an IRL stream, right?
[00:19:55] Like they'll lose their minds, like my pelican is my desktop setup. So I was like, you know what?
[00:20:01] Fuck it. I'll do it. I will do it. Chatter said, did you gain weight or is that just your
[00:20:10] code. What do you think, chatter? Um, but anyway, as I was saying, maybe it's the code.
[00:20:28] I have not gained weight of actually lost weight, but in any case, um, where was I, where was
[00:20:36] where was I oh so
[00:20:41] dark woke us back maybe it is back so
[00:20:46] we we put our you know we we check in our luggage to the flight and
[00:20:51] there is no like prior access there's no like pay to win socialism by the way
[00:20:56] and TSA is like extra nutty
[00:21:00] okay it's extra nutty I'm like what the fuck is going on here this airport like what the hell is happening
[00:21:05] like what the hell is happening?
[00:21:07] This is worse than ever before.
[00:21:08] They want to even let you get to the TSA line.
[00:21:12] There's like massive lines forming.
[00:21:14] And it turns out it's because I asked someone,
[00:21:17] that works with TSA, I was like, what the hell is this?
[00:21:19] Like I've never seen something so bad before, right?
[00:21:22] What the hell, Yante?
[00:21:23] We're not gonna make it to our flight and the guy goes,
[00:21:25] oh yeah, Thursdays are the cheapest.
[00:21:29] Apparently for Canada, for air Canada,
[00:21:31] Thursdays are the cheapest flights.
[00:21:33] And apparently, that's like when it's slammed,
[00:21:36] map people are flying out here on Thursdays.
[00:21:40] And I did not know that, but it was like insane.
[00:21:45] It was like chaotic, more chaotic than usual.
[00:21:46] Alex is not as chaotic as this experience normally is.
[00:21:54] So I was like, all right, well, beats me.
[00:21:58] US Exodus, I guess.
[00:22:00] It's a holiday on Monday, family date.
[00:22:02] Yeah, I found that out too late because Ryan
[00:22:07] let turn a view or however you say Northern lines last name
[00:22:10] it informed me that that is what's going on anyway.
[00:22:12] So.
[00:22:19] Yeah, this is fucking family that apparently which is crazy.
[00:22:22] It's like, who the hell, who the hell takes time off
[00:22:25] for family, bro?
[00:22:26] This is a bunch of goddamn comies up in this country, okay?
[00:22:29] Which I will get into in a second.
[00:22:31] This is a comedy country.
[00:22:32] this is Europe by the way, this is a European country, it's kind of crazy.
[00:22:50] Family is communism, let's be real,
[00:22:52] family is communist, it should be working all the time.
[00:22:55] I'm an American, get back to work.
[00:22:57] So, we finally, we make it. We make it right on time. We get on the flight.
[00:23:04] It's a very pleasant experience. I ordered a brekky.
[00:23:10] We got the breakfast. It was French toast or omelet.
[00:23:13] Omelet do from aosh, which means cheese omelet for you non-conedians.
[00:23:18] Because Canada is a dual-lingual, they have francophones, and they have anglophones in France.
[00:23:24] France, sorry. See, I'm talking about Canada and I said, France, what the fuck?
[00:23:36] Thanks, home with China. Not gonna mind door anyway. So, we, we, I say, I'm gonna do
[00:23:44] from Washington instead of Z instead of Z, uh, a French toast, which is toast, but French,
[00:23:49] Again, a lot of you are probably uncultured filestimes and you are oblivious to this,
[00:23:56] but yes, French toast is just tocho, but tocho, but French.
[00:24:01] So I'm like, no, I want, I'm going to do fromage, we we, we we for me, please.
[00:24:08] And it was actually not bad.
[00:24:11] It was actually surprisingly not bad.
[00:24:13] Anyway, I knocked out, read some of the book, the mail book that I've been reading, knocked
[00:24:18] out woke up got in got down to the airport. Let me tell you. Okay. Vancouver airport.
[00:24:26] It's Europe. Like Canada has the most European airport experience. Like it was just so European
[00:24:33] coded. Everything is so European coded here. I just like did not realize how Europe Canada is.
[00:24:40] Canada is infinitely more Europe than it is America. At least at a first glance. Straight up.
[00:24:45] it's kind of shocking actually like it's not it's not just about like
[00:24:50] modest social democracy which obviously is one of the major reasons why
[00:24:55] it's infinitely more Europe than it is America but it's not even like
[00:25:00] it's not even just like you know public transit readily availability all
[00:25:04] the stuff like it is just Europe it just feels like Europe it's got European
[00:25:11] vibes. European country with the USA infrastructure, I mean, sure. But I love it. It's
[00:25:23] beautiful. Anyway, the baddies were crazy. Like, it really, it really worked on me.
[00:25:33] Like the introduction to the introduction into the state is just a bunch of baddies working
[00:25:39] and it causes them to border patrol like what the fuck and they're so nice like the
[00:25:45] customs and border patrol people are so nice they're so pleasant they're in shape
[00:25:51] it's just Martian hour talking about this we're like I kind of understand why like the
[00:25:56] ACAP conversation is like much more difficult to have in Europe and in Canada and other places
[00:26:00] because like I mean I'm sure your cops suck shit too as they do everywhere right but like
[00:26:07] Until you've had an experience with an American police officer,
[00:26:11] or any member of law enforcement in the United States of America,
[00:26:14] I don't think you will ever understand.
[00:26:17] I don't think you will ever understand. You will probably come back to your country and hug and kiss your
[00:26:22] cops. You will be like, I did not know how wonderful you guys were in comparison.
[00:26:26] Like every conversation that you have with an American law enforcement person is basically like a
[00:26:32] life or death situation. And I'm not even fucking exaggerating. I mean, you guys already know.
[00:26:36] You already know because you see it in the news, but like there is always a constant ever present threat that this high school dropout that's sitting in front of you that's like white knuckleling through the social interaction might at any point become like turn on the family annihilators which you know what I mean and you happen to be in his immediate vicinity like
[00:26:55] Like I've never, you walk up with, you walk up with your paperwork, right?
[00:27:01] And you're just like, all right, here's my paperwork, like I did the thing I'm supposed
[00:27:07] to do.
[00:27:08] I told you I don't have any illicit substances on me.
[00:27:11] And like in America, that experience is constantly peppered with like an environment
[00:27:16] of super tension where the guy in front of you is basically, he's not believing you.
[00:27:21] He's just looking at you like, no, you are, you are Pablo Escobar.
[00:27:26] I want to kill you.
[00:27:27] Please, for the love of Christ, let me kill this one.
[00:27:31] I genuinely feel like every, every interaction I have is, is,
[00:27:36] mired intention for no fucking reason until I just have a conversation with, like, a
[00:27:40] member of law enforcement in another country.
[00:27:42] Not to say that they're good, but it's just like, it's just so strange.
[00:27:47] It's such a strange experience to like, compare to,
[00:27:50] because Canada is so fucking close, especially Vancouver, like Vancouver Island, you
[00:27:55] can swim to America. Don't do it. Definitely awful here. Okay, don't come to the United
[00:28:00] States of America.
[00:28:09] That's just you, at low what RCPM can get pretty hoggy, but they're generally way more
[00:28:14] of a stream, probably education requirements.
[00:28:18] I'm a watcher in the UBC political time student situation can be set up a bar chat before
[00:28:22] after you're event tonight on behalf of the students. I don't think I'll be able to do all
[00:28:25] of that because it's a slam schedule. But yeah, I just open presence goddamn with another
[00:28:33] 100 gift of so's RCMP that I read it wrong. So American CBPR, nice to meet in Canadian.
[00:28:44] American though. I don't think so. So I think it's more so where you were. I don't
[00:28:52] know, Vancouver, especially airport areas. No, we're near Toronto cops. Level off was
[00:28:55] probably not as bad as American cops. So it's not surprising to Toronto cops. I
[00:28:57] utilize American cops. Yeah, I just wish that like I wish there was a way for a
[00:29:02] candidate that just like cut itself off from the United States of America because I
[00:29:06] feel like every day that goes by our brain rock is probably constantly impacting
[00:29:12] your dumbest individuals, your stupid style individuals, and it's probably making them
[00:29:18] more American adjacent and I hate that. It's just, it's not good. It's not good at all.
[00:29:26] I mean, it's just like, you have a good thing going here. You know, you have a good thing going
[00:29:31] here. Also, kind of like going ahead and finding out that it's Chinese and going, you know,
[00:29:36] I just, I don't have an issue with it. I just didn't know it was so Chinese. That's how
[00:29:39] I felt about Vancouver. I got into Vancouver and I'm driving around and I was like,
[00:29:45] I love it. It's beautiful. I just didn't realize it was so Chinese. And I mean it.
[00:29:51] Like, sincerely, I kind of understand why it breaks like right wing reactionaries, brands.
[00:29:55] If they ever come to a city like Vancouver, it is way more Chinese than the most Chinese
[00:30:00] part of an American major city. Like straight up, it's, it's awesome.
[00:30:08] you know, I just didn't think it would be Chinese. It's awesome. It's beautiful. I love it.
[00:30:14] Architecture is great. Vives are cool. Just didn't realize it was fucking so Chinese. Okay.
[00:30:25] New York City China is up there. No, no, no, I stay in China town when I stay in New York.
[00:30:30] I have friends that live near China town. I love China town New York. Vancouver is the entire
[00:30:36] Vancouver area that I saw unless I was just only driving through Chinatown is Chinatown.
[00:30:44] Chinatown? Yeah. I get why those motherfuckers out here are like,
[00:30:47] oh, the immigrants are coming in and purchasing all of real estate. Like, they just,
[00:30:51] I mean, it's just straight up Cantonese lettering everywhere. You know what I mean? It's Mandarin Cantonese.
[00:30:56] the
[00:31:01] y'all have been occupied without even realizing that perhaps that's the reason why it's so cool
[00:31:07] you already it was already china da
[00:31:12] you know
[00:31:14] richman is the chinese on clay bro he went through richman y w y v r's enrichment is china
[00:31:21] So, actual China pounds kind of sketchy, okay, that's probably what it is.
[00:31:32] I just thought it was like regular Vancouver.
[00:31:35] I've heard, bro, not even Chinese people stay in China town in New York City.
[00:31:40] First of all, the reason why Chinese people don't stay in China town in New York City
[00:31:45] because that's where all of the right wing, like Kumatang, Dick Riders, right wing
[00:31:51] separatists have turned themselves into an enclave.
[00:31:54] This is probably why if you're like a Chinese guy from China, you don't want to go anywhere
[00:32:01] near that.
[00:32:02] Also, it's not sketchy at all, the Fukui Tarwan is New York City.
[00:32:06] There's nothing that's, oh my God, there's door.
[00:32:09] What the fuck are all that?
[00:32:15] you
[00:32:45] That was weird.
[00:32:59] Taking too long. It's most odd for sure.
[00:33:02] I don't know what it was. It's just that they thought that they left something while they were cleaning the room this morning.
[00:33:07] I'm like, I'm fine. You can't come in anymore. I'm filming.
[00:33:10] Anyway.
[00:33:14] So, where was I, I live in Richmond, it's awesome, great food and good transit, did room service, to
[00:33:29] live for you a customary bag of bagged milk? No, they did not, which is pretty nice stuff,
[00:33:35] as far as hospitality goes. I'll say, it's definitely a big hell.
[00:33:40] and
[00:33:42] Vancouver is one third China one third EU and one third US. Yeah, that's it's they should they need to up those numbers. They should they need to lower the the American influence
[00:33:51] Um
[00:33:54] Where was I what was I talking about Canadian here. There's no bag milk and Vancouver is more of an eastern Canada thing. Yeah
[00:34:00] Totally think you are doing only friends. Yeah, I am a masturbating
[00:34:04] and the hotel room and there's nice hotel room that day that I got just so I can crank one out
[00:34:12] hot loads, you know the deal. So
[00:34:19] Where was I? Where was I? Where was I? Where was I?
[00:34:28] What was I talking about chat?
[00:34:29] Oh, I went through the security. Well, the security was nice, but then after March convinced
[00:34:38] me to check my luggage for the first time ever, even though I was very resistant to this
[00:34:46] change because I'm autistic as fuck. Okay. I, I come in, bags are rolling in, bigs. I'm
[00:34:59] Canada, so I have to say a Canadian style. Biggs, BX are rolling in, right? That's how they
[00:35:06] say it out here. Um, and everyone's bags come in except for mine. Biggs. I'm like, what the
[00:35:18] fuck is going on? What the fuck is going on? I'm looking at March March is looking at me. He's
[00:35:22] He's like, huh, I don't know, I don't know.
[00:35:25] Well, it turns out my bag doesn't come out.
[00:35:30] We wait, we wait, we wait, my bag doesn't come out.
[00:35:33] I'm like, fuck this.
[00:35:36] This is crazy.
[00:35:37] I was like saying, March, you're going to sit there.
[00:35:39] We're going to throw on the eye-roshering,
[00:35:41] and you're going to be my laptop.
[00:35:42] OK, I'm going to make you be my laptop.
[00:35:44] This fucking bag doesn't come out.
[00:35:46] You're son of a bitch.
[00:35:47] You made me check my luggage in for the first time
[00:35:52] whatever. Okay. And he's we're panicking a little bit. We go to the counter. And the
[00:36:00] guy's like, well, it's been scanned. So at least it made it to Canada. We just don't know
[00:36:04] where it is. I'm like, that's not great. And he's like, well, you know, in a couple
[00:36:09] hours, we can send it to you if you give us your hotel. I'm like, I don't have a couple hours
[00:36:14] I have right now. This is like I'm panicking. I'm panicking. Okay.
[00:36:24] This is this should I have to deal with his march. Yeah. I'm panicking march is panicking as well.
[00:36:30] Even though we're just not trying to show that we're panicking because there's a lot of baddies around.
[00:36:34] There's a lot of there's a lot of baddies in the customs and border patrol in Canada.
[00:36:38] Like and so we're trying to keep our cool. So we can look cool and sexy.
[00:36:44] and we're panicking quietly. Anyway, the guy basically, as I'm walking back, I go,
[00:36:52] well, we didn't see the big. I said, we didn't see the big, but it's a pelican. And when
[00:37:00] as soon as he hears the word, pelican, he goes, oh, don't you know, if it's a pelican, it's on 35,
[00:37:08] A, apparently they put the pelicans automatically on a separate thing, on a separate
[00:37:21] conveyor belt with like all the large items.
[00:37:24] Also, I got a TSA inspection on my oversized luggage on the oversized luggage side, even
[00:37:32] though it's not oversized at all.
[00:37:38] Someone's at 35.8. Yes.
[00:37:42] So apparently how the fuck through all of the Vancouverites know exactly where it is.
[00:37:48] 35.8 or 35.8. Now it's 35.8.
[00:37:55] So yeah, they had this like fucked airport logistics. It's fine. Whatever.
[00:38:01] What is this? Your new TikTok is popping off?
[00:38:04] I was wondering, we're all the ancient baddies of a parent's
[00:38:08] there's that inferior, haven't been in the wrong place.
[00:38:10] The mechanism has a population of ancient baddies,
[00:38:14] and that's a good issue.
[00:38:15] Well, Vancouver is like a valiant E-girl lobby.
[00:38:19] Like, it's just weird.
[00:38:22] No, not on some fetish shit, okay?
[00:38:24] Don't give mademy for saying it.
[00:38:26] I just, I, if I, see it, I call it out.
[00:38:28] And I have to call it out as I see it.
[00:38:30] I saw like eight customs and border patrol ladies
[00:38:33] that literally all look like value e-girls.
[00:38:37] That's crazy.
[00:38:38] Okay.
[00:38:39] Do you know what customers of Border Patrol
[00:38:41] looks like in America?
[00:38:43] Yeah, that's what I sound like.
[00:38:44] Okay, well, get mad at me for saying the truth.
[00:38:47] I don't know, just like Jesus Christ.
[00:38:49] Okay, crucify me, just like Jesus Christ.
[00:38:52] They hated him because he said the truth.
[00:38:54] Okay, it is just, it is what it is.
[00:38:57] Stop gooning, we get it.
[00:38:58] I'm not even gooning.
[00:38:59] I'm not even on some goonship.
[00:39:00] I'm calling the balls and I'm calling the fucker strikes.
[00:39:03] Okay. I have said the truth.
[00:39:16] You are not Kanye, buddy. As someone who works with suicidal detainees in a Canadian ER,
[00:39:21] CBP or not bad, he's in Toronto, but we have the dumbest and most well stuff,
[00:39:24] cops to grace my ER and have to deal with the fucking Toronto police.
[00:39:28] As always, minimum two to three of them with any given patient. They're also going
[00:39:31] I don't shit about anything.
[00:39:31] No useful information to give me about my patients.
[00:39:33] Of course, I mean, that's just cops.
[00:39:35] That's the universality of cogs
[00:39:36] and the universality of cogs in general.
[00:39:39] Wasion, Vancouver, born, heart, agree.
[00:39:41] Okay.
[00:39:42] So where the fuck was I?
[00:39:46] Anyway, yeah, Vancouver is great.
[00:39:50] Dude, are you on Adderall today?
[00:39:51] Does it seem like I'm on Adderall today, brother?
[00:39:54] I literally keep swapping from stupid ass take to take.
[00:40:01] I, I can't even stay on one message, so as I was saying, um, yeah, we get the bag,
[00:40:14] big, I got in, uh, March actually did the setup while I was showering, um, I, uh, I have
[00:40:21] a different fit for what I do to talk, I'm actually going to wear a suit, I'm suited
[00:40:25] out and booted out.
[00:40:27] Um, and yeah, we're here.
[00:40:30] Pelican then one.
[00:40:31] Yeah, we just got the bag big.
[00:40:33] Uh, gotten to the hotel, checked in, showered, and I'm live.
[00:40:37] That's all that has happened so far.
[00:40:40] But, uh, it was, uh, I mean, Vancouver is incredible.
[00:40:44] It's incredible.
[00:40:46] Uh, it's a fantastic.
[00:40:48] And no, it's not because of the Asian baddies or anything like that.
[00:40:51] That's not the, that's not what I'm saying.
[00:40:53] No, I didn't wear the, I didn't realize how
[00:40:55] Chinese Vancouver was. If I did, I would have worn the suit. But no, I don't have the
[00:41:02] suit. I have the regular business suit that I'll be wearing. Are you shooting the
[00:41:08] college walk, maybe? I can't say. Are you going to start saying,
[00:41:15] in Crony. Yes, fam. Don't be such a garbage.
[00:41:23] Bro had to go to UBC broch, SFU gets nothing.
[00:41:28] I think that's what the New York typical people have.
[00:41:31] When they take out all the much out of New Orleans,
[00:41:33] the office otherwise.
[00:41:36] Welcome to the Pacific Northwest.
[00:41:39] Big, the respect we knew is similar.
[00:41:43] Yeah, big.
[00:41:44] They, uh, you were spotted in Vancouver already.
[00:41:50] Jay Moss, another richest man in China spotted, leaving his two-legged,
[00:41:53] just to eat at the most expensive restaurant in Vancouver.
[00:42:07] This is me. This is all the money I get from saying the Democrats suck dick.
[00:42:12] Okay. This is, this is me and the baddie I acquired by saying the Democrats suck. If
[00:42:22] you ask all these fucking shit lives on the time on all these centrist liberalism defenders
[00:42:26] on the timeline, they think like I'm making $17 a billion dollars a day by being like
[00:42:32] Democrats are the worst party on the in the planet in the country, perhaps the worst party
[00:42:38] of all time, and everyone is just like, oh my god, no one has ever said that before,
[00:42:43] please have all of my money.
[00:42:46] Please sponsor, they're all the same person.
[00:42:51] What is this?
[00:42:54] This is the guy, huh?
[00:42:55] This is the fucking, the guy who's been talking mass shit.
[00:43:03] I love when they fucking unmask, it's pretty funny, because they have no, like,
[00:43:08] they have no compression clearly or such a leftist grifter. Yeah, exactly.
[00:43:13] The release of real monetary metric for me it is.
[00:43:18] Anyway, uh, where was I, where was I, where was I, where was I, where was I, where was I, where was I, where was I, where was I, what was I talking about?
[00:43:26] I'm a ABC student could get a ticket to come see you. Also, as if you guys cabbing they got Maverick's last semester. Okay, but who's cooler me or the Maverick's? Let's be real. I think it's me.
[00:43:37] and
[00:43:49] he also posted a video of your last 90 of us you were a stream last night
[00:43:55] the last 90 outfits I wore on stream
[00:43:59] these guys okay
[00:44:03] powder on Twitter, let them out. Okay, you need to understand those guys don't actually have any sort of fucking shame. Like that's why they behave the way that they do. So
[00:44:13] You just remember that
[00:44:17] Centres lib
[00:44:20] Melt now continues
[00:44:22] I expect ice bags down in Minneapolis, Pan-Bond and Christchart, Hogwatch, Specia UBC later.
[00:44:37] Do we have a blast off me?
[00:44:38] I think we do actually.
[00:44:39] We do have one.
[00:44:40] Hold on.
[00:44:41] All right.
[00:44:42] Let's blast off and let's get a pop in.
[00:44:44] Let's get a pop in.
[00:44:45] Let's get a twisted.
[00:44:46] You already know what it is.
[00:44:48] I got the blast off me.
[00:44:50] uh...
[00:44:55] left meltdown over a saltpickers comments on gavin news and this is why we
[00:44:59] lose
[00:44:59] uh... well obviously covered that a little bit as well
[00:45:02] uh... shall sell them as well shouts out the gentleman for well shi my
[00:45:06] queen
[00:45:07] uh... she she uh...
[00:45:11] it's like the master is a master rosy like the rat is like the ninja turtles
[00:45:15] meme
[00:45:16] of like
[00:45:17] me holding the hands of other people and then there they grow and then they
[00:45:20] and then they carry me that's how if this all I feel like ideologically speaking, you know,
[00:45:27] um,
[00:45:30] master splinters are not rosy, master splinter, master splinter.
[00:45:42] Fake fan, okay, stop, I don't, I'm not very good with names, stop.
[00:45:50] Why do you always do this to me?
[00:45:56] So fuck you doing Canada? Big dog.
[00:46:00] I'm taking over. It's mine now.
[00:46:02] Donald Trump sent me as the vizier, the grand vizier ahead of time.
[00:46:09] Okay.
[00:46:14] Donald Trump sent me as the grand vizier ahead of time.
[00:46:19] I'm scouting. I'm doing a scouting operation before we turn Canada into an American protectorate.
[00:46:27] Don't get frame mocked in Vancouver by ASU Hassan. I'm going to get frame mocked.
[00:46:35] Where was I? Where was I? Where was I? So yeah?
[00:46:40] Tertis. So I'm one of the chesit tertis. I hate that you guys will call me out on my week as moments.
[00:46:48] Okay, Curtis is that was a private instance. Okay, that was a private situation. Why the fuck would you bring up Tertis right now?
[00:46:57] Yes, yes, I can't I don't have very good name recall. Okay, I
[00:47:02] Don't have very good name recall. You know this. That's why the the Pokemon game of it was Tertis
[00:47:08] We're going to have a very sweet Valentine's day with my new Valentine that we will be replacing
[00:47:26] Austin Show with Caleb Herron.
[00:47:29] But that's Saturday.
[00:47:34] excited about this guest, of course. Yeah. It's finally happening. Are you dead
[00:47:47] ass? Oh, so not me. I'm dead ass.
[00:47:52] hard.
[00:47:55] Tird is.
[00:47:58] Anyway,
[00:48:01] were the freak was I oh yeah,
[00:48:03] so Timeline is still the blog is still hot,
[00:48:07] Timeline is still lit to fuck up,
[00:48:09] and I probably should,
[00:48:11] you know, I said my piece,
[00:48:13] and I shall probably stop dealing with these losers,
[00:48:16] and I most likely will eventually.
[00:48:18] But for the time being,
[00:48:20] you know, I'm still enjoying,
[00:48:21] uh... the uh... the liberal
[00:48:25] congregation of like centers lives uh... being shit lives and just like screaming
[00:48:31] sonny state of the playmal art here out of your fucking mind if you're going to
[00:48:34] watch the sonny state of play right now
[00:48:37] i don't even know what time it starts
[00:48:40] but if you think i'm going to watch that right now you are on crack cocaine
[00:48:45] okay you are a victim ronald ragan gave you crack directly you might be a
[00:48:50] crack baby as a matter of fact. You might be more crack than man. Okay, if you think I'm
[00:48:58] going to watch the Sony State of Play right now, when there's a flock ton of news to cover.
[00:49:06] Okay, it's a 2 p.m. PSD is an hour long.
[00:49:09] on. Most liked left talk yesterday.
[00:49:19] It's not going to vote.
[00:49:24] Oh, this is the, this is a more of the discourse for
[00:49:28] Gavin Newsom because that is a dangerous proposition.
[00:49:30] There is a reason those right-wing freaks currently favor
[00:49:34] Gavin Newsom over JD bands. And it's not just because they hate
[00:49:38] J.D. Vance and think he's a little picky, although he is. It's because they're thinking
[00:49:43] long term. Gavin Newsom, the difference between him and Trump right now, subsequently on policy,
[00:49:48] really not that different. Because Gavin Newsom is running on locking in the fascist agenda.
[00:49:54] He doesn't want to tax billionaires. He's not going to get rid of ICE. He doesn't want to talk
[00:49:58] about trans people. He doesn't talk about universal health care. He's not going to cut military
[00:50:03] Sunday, he's not going to change policy on Venezuela.
[00:50:06] He's just going to be a handsome version of Trump, a blue version of Red.
[00:50:11] And those right-wing freaks know that he's not going to fix the fundamental problems that
[00:50:16] led to fascism.
[00:50:17] He's not going to solve inequality.
[00:50:19] He's not going to make life better for the average American.
[00:50:22] He certainly doesn't give a shit about black and brown people.
[00:50:26] And he ends up setting the table for something much worse to come after him.
[00:50:31] he is just a neoliberal failure, they can bring in something that makes Trump look cute.
[00:50:36] So I don't know why I realized that Hassan would not support Gavin News.
[00:50:40] Yeah, I mean, I literally said, I think what is often misunderstood about a lot of my comments
[00:50:51] is that Gavin Newsom will oversee the complete fascist takeover of American politics,
[00:51:00] like this was a major problem with Joe Biden in 2020. A lot of people think, oh, it's
[00:51:05] because Joe Biden was old. Sure, Joe Biden's age played a major role in this, but it also
[00:51:11] was Joe Biden and his administrations in ability to address all of these longstanding issues
[00:51:16] around affordability, all of these longstanding issues around affordability that pertain to
[00:51:20] health care. Okay. That even pertain to a more tolerant pathway towards Amnesty,
[00:51:28] more tolerant pathway towards migration, okay, refusing to address it outright.
[00:51:38] Refusing to address the housing crisis outright. These are the reasons as the
[00:51:44] why fascism keeps brewing, especially in the absence of alternatives like socialism.
[00:51:52] This is the problem. They get triggered and latch on to you think they're the exact same. I don't even
[00:51:56] care, I know that they're not the exact same, but it doesn't matter. It does not matter
[00:52:01] at all. And I don't care if they say, Hassan, you're privileged, you're wealthy, you represent
[00:52:08] the interests of the wealthy, you just want Trump to win so you can make money. I don't care if they
[00:52:13] say that. It's wrong and they're lying and they can keep lying all day every day. Perhaps this
[00:52:19] kind of lie makes them feel a little bit more comfortable about their inability to address these
[00:52:24] issues. Okay. That's what it is, a big part of the enmity, a big part of the animosity,
[00:52:32] a big part of the anger and resentment that comes from these centrist-lib-tarded establishment
[00:52:42] Democrat adjacent content creators who just want a fraction of the center of power and
[00:52:48] the Democratic Party and hopefully some checks down the line and the reason why they
[00:52:53] engage in this kind of advocacy is because they,
[00:53:03] I'm free all I was going to say,
[00:53:04] I'm just someone in my fucking door again, holy shit.
[00:53:08] The reason why these guys do this centrist neoliberal,
[00:53:13] third-way neoliberalism argumentation,
[00:53:16] And basically get together with Gavin Newsom or stake their claim on Gavin Newsom is because
[00:53:27] ultimately they do not care about what happens.
[00:53:31] They don't want to actually, they don't want to actually do an autopsy on why.
[00:53:36] Kamala Harris laws.
[00:53:38] They don't want to do an autopsy on why Joe Biden was seen as an abject failure.
[00:53:42] they don't want to do an autopsy on why Hillary Clinton lost. Okay? That's it. They don't want to do that and the only way that they can argue just as just as Israel defenders, which by the way many of these centers liberals are also Israel defenders. I am aware of that. I am noticing that. But just as Israel defenders refuse to have an argument around Israel being in a partite ethnostate and simply just go anti-Semite anti-Semite anti-Semite anti-Semite.
[00:54:11] your anti-Semitic, you need to stop talking, you're anti-Semitic, you need to stop talking.
[00:54:15] A lot of these centrist liberals will just go, you're a Republican, you love Republicans,
[00:54:21] you want to be Republican.
[00:54:22] Well, that's not the case now, is it?
[00:54:24] Because if I was a Republican, you'd probably be courting my votes.
[00:54:28] You would love to court my vote, because you want to fuck Republicans, you want to hug
[00:54:32] Republicans, you want to suck Republicans, you want to be a Republican.
[00:54:35] This is my problem.
[00:54:37] My anger and resentment towards the establishment wing of the Democratic Party, the moderates
[00:54:41] that are simply constantly trying to appeal to this mythical moderate voter, is their closeness
[00:54:48] to the Republicans on their agenda when it's completely fucking unnecessary.
[00:54:53] At best, it's unnecessary at worst.
[00:54:56] It's conciliatory, and it locks in.
[00:54:59] It ratchets, it ratchets, right wing fascist ideology, right wing fascist policy.
[00:55:06] as the capacity to normalize it to the base of self-identifying liberals.
[00:55:12] That's it.
[00:55:14] If I was a Republican, you would be sucking my cock.
[00:55:17] You would be going, oh my god, this beautiful moderate Republican voter, how do we get
[00:55:23] him on our side?
[00:55:24] How do we get him on our side?
[00:55:25] It is because you know that I am a leftist.
[00:55:28] You know that I'm a socialist, that you fucking chirp like this, okay?
[00:55:33] You're not looking for reason.
[00:55:35] You're the one who's being unreasonable.
[00:55:40] You understand?
[00:55:45] I ought to shout at me out, let's go.
[00:55:54] Bro, the production on this is nutty by the way.
[00:55:57] Think about how much time and effort goes in to making a lot of production like this
[00:56:01] work.
[00:56:02] a huge shout-out to the I-out-say, folks, the Union folks that have fucking poured their blood
[00:56:07] sweat and tears into making this production work in real time, shout-out to the dudes
[00:56:10] who are in the trees, like every part of this is incredible work.
[00:56:15] Yeah.
[00:56:18] I don't know what that feedback is, but that's not, that's just from that clip in general.
[00:56:28] If they really believe in compromising, they would be compromising their position towards you.
[00:56:31] They just want to be Republicans.
[00:56:32] I know they want to be Republicans, but also still maintain the moral superiority of not voting for the Republicans.
[00:56:39] That's precisely the reason why.
[00:56:41] That's precisely the reason why they love when Republicans advance the same fascist agenda against the very same people that these guys talk about as a talking point.
[00:56:57] ever the harm reduction conversation comes around. These are the same liberals that turn
[00:57:01] around and say, I'm calling my neighbors, my Latino neighbors who voted for Trump. I'm calling
[00:57:05] ICE on them, right? It's that mentality where it's like I get to literally participate in this
[00:57:11] in this like fascist action, this fascist militancy without without actually having the
[00:57:18] moral baggage and the association with set fascist militancy, I get to fain moral superiority
[00:57:24] you all simultaneously allowing this fashion regime to do whatever the fuck it wants.
[00:57:32] It's always this, Democrats, according Republicans, oh, we'll do anything for your votes. We'll
[00:57:35] be happy to compromise on anything. Democrats, according to left, we owe you shitheads nothing.
[00:57:40] Vote for us or you're personally responsible for the rise of fascism. You fucking idiots.
[00:57:46] And you know what's really beautiful about this? You know what's really funny about this?
[00:57:51] This might have motion on the liberal echo chamber that remains on the neo-Nazi website
[00:57:58] Twitter.
[00:57:59] And even then, I think there's not a lot of motion there either, right?
[00:58:05] But you know who also is tired of the same old business as usual bullshit.
[00:58:10] Average self-identifying liberals who vote for the Democratic Party consistently every single
[00:58:15] fucking election cycle.
[00:58:18] Okay, this is such a nowhere conversation.
[00:58:21] No one is talking to each other about their disagreements.
[00:58:22] It's just talking past each other and creating some kind of character to yell at.
[00:58:25] Really, you think I'm creating a character to yell at?
[00:58:29] You think I'm not addressing my, my very same enmity, my very same animosity that I have had
[00:58:36] for the past fucking decade or so.
[00:58:39] I'm not creating a straw man.
[00:58:43] I'm tackling the issue at its heart.
[00:58:46] And I'm trying to also identify where this resentment from centers, liberals comes from.
[00:58:56] It's that simple.
[00:58:57] Not you, dumb, dumb.
[00:58:58] Oh, yeah, they want to present a straw man.
[00:59:01] They want to tackle a straw man because the actual argument itself is virtually impossible
[00:59:06] for them to address.
[00:59:07] That's why I likened it to the way that many Israel defenders argue.
[00:59:11] They can't argue on maintaining a humanitarian approach and wanting to build a liberal
[00:59:19] society in Israel because Israel's in a part-time ethno state doing a genocide.
[00:59:23] So what do they do?
[00:59:25] They say you're an anti-Semite, you're a terrorist, you're an Islamist, you need to stop
[00:59:30] talking, you need to lose your job.
[00:59:32] You can no longer have gainful employment.
[00:59:34] That is the only argument that they have because if they were to have the argument on the
[00:59:38] boundaries of humanitarian principles, a shared understanding of how he must uplift all marginalized
[00:59:45] communities, all of a sudden, having a, you know, 14th century style seizure approach to
[00:59:51] a captive population of indigenous people in 2026 in real time, conducting a Holocaust with
[00:59:58] modern weapons that his live broadcasts at the every single person's phones. It comes across
[01:00:03] It's indefensible and they recognize that it's indefensible, so they have to just go on the attack constantly and the
[01:00:09] Centric Liberals do the exact same thing. Oh, we want to
[01:00:14] slap a D next the Republican policies because there's this mythical moderate voter
[01:00:20] Right, there's this mythical moderate voter that we have to compromise with
[01:00:25] There's this mythical moderate that is also saying we want to make sure that there's a strong Republican party
[01:00:30] no bitch that person doesn't actually exist and for years and years you have created this
[01:00:35] carefully concocted propaganda to make it seem as though people actually demand this to make
[01:00:41] it seem as though people actually want this and now people are actually aware that they
[01:00:44] don't want this at all they realize that failure after failure after failure you've caused
[01:00:49] people to recognize in spite of the unlimited amount of propaganda coming from
[01:00:53] centrist democrats from mainstream media that no actually they want something more okay they
[01:00:59] want something more. It's totally understandable. People are coming to our side on this
[01:01:05] issue. The Democratic Party's base of support, the voters are coming to our side on this
[01:01:10] issue. Okay. No voter in the United States of America that is going to vote for the Democratic
[01:01:18] parties. Like can we please continue unlimited funds to the American military so they can
[01:01:23] do whatever the fuck they want to do so that our pedophilic billionaire cabal can turn
[01:01:28] super profits year over year by extracting natural resources from the third world can we give is real more money please
[01:01:35] Everyone that's speaking out of this is really to shut the fuck up and be
[01:01:39] Sensured and and go to prison like that's not a real position and yet the Democrats make it seem like there's a mythical moderate voter out there that demands this
[01:01:47] They're like no actually don't think the fucking potholes. I want to get more money to Israel like shut the fuck up
[01:01:52] Just like there's no
[01:01:53] mythical moderate voter that's like no actually I do care about united healthcare
[01:01:58] uh... and it's profit margins
[01:02:00] no it's fine it's fine that i i uh... you know spend thousands and thousands of
[01:02:04] dollars on my fucking increasing premiums
[01:02:07] year over year and then all of a sudden when i got for a bit get cancer my grandparents get
[01:02:12] cancer i've spent hours on the fucking phone and they still don't pay the entire medical bill
[01:02:17] i love that system i want to make sure that united healthcare actually has even more
[01:02:21] super profits. I love that shit, please.
[01:02:31] Do you understand? These policies I major liberals can't understand that the average
[01:02:39] liberal American would rather have decentralized rate guards than whatever the fuck is
[01:02:41] going on right now? Yeah. And it's crazy because they're obsolete, but they're still
[01:02:47] chirping into the fucking wind. This is what my take away was from the DNC. If you recall,
[01:02:54] this was the famous whisper scream speech. The whisper scream rant. After I heard Kamala Harris say,
[01:03:03] I want to have the most lethal military. This is when I realized like the Democrats are going to
[01:03:07] lose. Let's take a look. And you can maybe find out whether or not this was prescient.
[01:03:13] The only motherfucker that actually hates Republicans, okay?
[01:03:19] I'm gonna say it.
[01:03:20] I'm saying it, dude.
[01:03:21] I think, Democrat, don't fucking hate Republicans as much as I do, okay?
[01:03:26] They love saying, oh, I guess you want to vote for Trump then, but like, dude, you
[01:03:31] don't fucking hate Republicans, you want them in your party, you desperately advocate or
[01:03:38] them to come to your party.
[01:03:40] You literally have them at your Convention.
[01:03:43] You have them at fucking Convention.
[01:03:45] You have them come!
[01:03:47] In the S ponto vere to listen, you literally have their loyal soldiers on the border
[01:03:53] guards of the fucking cops.
[01:03:55] You love them.
[01:03:56] You want to fuck those Republicans, you want to hug those...?
[01:03:57] You want a kiss to lobogins.
[01:03:59] You wanna be republic then?
[01:04:00] I want to be repocalyptic then.
[01:04:04] I hate republicans.
[01:04:06] republicans, you don't, you want to fuck them and you want to suck them, okay?
[01:04:11] Stop this bullshit.
[01:04:15] That's it.
[01:04:17] Once again, right, but too early on this assessment, even though I mean, I guess you can't even say right but too early because this is how the Democrats have operated over an already an establishment Democrats in particular.
[01:04:27] Like, there is, when people say Hassan, you're presenting this false dichotomy, you're making it seem as though there's no difference between the republics of the Democrats.
[01:04:34] I am angry at the Democrats presenting themselves as that, okay?
[01:04:39] And what's really funny, better yet, what's really funny about all this back and forth,
[01:04:45] is that these people keep saying, Hassan, you're only popular because Trump is president.
[01:04:49] Hassan, your popularity stems from you constantly shooting on the Democrats.
[01:04:53] Okay, doesn't that imply that the Democrats are unimaginably popular?
[01:04:59] Do you not realize why the Democrats are unimaginably popular?
[01:05:03] Perhaps you should listen to what I'm saying.
[01:05:07] Perhaps you should listen to what I'm saying about why the Democrats are unimaginably popular because that's my argument.
[01:05:12] Okay.
[01:05:14] That's it.
[01:05:16] You can't constantly be this annoying school farm about unimaginably unpopular, sorry, did I say popular?
[01:05:28] Okay, you can't constantly be this incredibly woke boring school-marm that you that only
[01:05:35] deploys identity politics when it comes to defending centers, neoliberal third-way Democrats
[01:05:40] you can't do that. No one is biting this shit. Okay, did I say unimaginably unpop, he said popular twice,
[01:05:47] unimaginably unpopular, unimaginably unimaginably unpopular. Okay, that's it.
[01:05:58] Why are you saying mom and mom? Isn't that a term? What does that mean?
[01:06:03] Isn't that what the word is? Like
[01:06:10] school-mom. It means like a like a mistress in a school.
[01:06:17] Like the headmaster. It is a word.
[01:06:20] What, why are you? Yo, what the fuck's going on? I'm ESL up in this bitch, and you guys are,
[01:06:30] yet like a hall monitor, hello? A yo, mono linguist, see yourself out of this conversation,
[01:06:39] read a fucking book every now and then, you're illiterate, okay? Read a goddamn book.
[01:06:46] Don't fucking do this shit to me and you make me question myself too. I'm like, I am ESL after all
[01:06:57] Oh, and it's like it's also these like dumbass like liberal adjacent content creators as well
[01:07:03] This is a bad argument from us on Democrats are rainbow capital there's changed people have much longer legal protection
[01:07:07] I'm dying. I'm dying
[01:07:09] Is there ever going to be a point where we have a normal conversation where people understand or is it just gonna be fucking shit
[01:07:14] They're in over and over again. Okay, because that's another thing that is like really fucking annoying too
[01:07:21] That's another thing that's really fucking annoying
[01:07:24] About these people that will be like well Hassan said Democrats hate trans people and we'll kill them
[01:07:29] No, I said if it was
[01:07:31] Electorally viable Democrats would sell trans people as they have over and over again. Okay, that's it
[01:07:40] That's it the idea that like Democrats actually care about
[01:07:44] marginalized communities is anything but like a talking point and even then
[01:07:49] It'll really use that talking point all that much unless they're talking to someone like myself
[01:07:53] Where they know I have a large trans community. They know I care about trans people. That's the only time where they ever deploy this argument
[01:08:00] Okay
[01:08:02] Democrats on the streets
[01:08:04] We'll run around and be like, no, no, no, trans people will cut it out. We don't fuck with them either. Come on. Vote for us Republicans. Please vote for us moderate voters
[01:08:10] Please, but then they fucking turn around and go when you're when they're talking to a leftist who does care about you
[01:08:15] You really go how dare you don't vote for us? You must want every trans person died
[01:08:20] You know what I mean
[01:08:24] That's it you don't give a fuck about trees
[01:08:26] You will be on like a talking point that you can use against a left as you can deploy against a left
[01:08:29] That's all you do you all you do is all you do?
[01:08:37] Okay
[01:08:40] like
[01:08:44] this is stupid and it was the governor of Kentucky and vetoed anti trans laws during
[01:08:47] election year when there was a negative incentive to do so I know your ass
[01:08:50] watches enough of my streams to know I make that point regularly is the $10
[01:08:54] Twitter revenue that important that you are acting
[01:08:57] uh... like that's what i'm trying to communicate here there are moderate
[01:08:59] forces of the party
[01:09:00] backed by third-wayers that have absolutely demanded the right trans people off
[01:09:08] I was like 10 to 15 hours of your stream total of my entire life
[01:09:10] Like a lot of it. I think using the catch all Democrats is misconstruing the issue. I've spent plenty of time talking about my thoughts on third way and those people blah blah blah all this shit. Okay.
[01:09:20] I'm not saying all Democrats do this. I'm saying that the national Democratic party is trying to move away from it. It's just like professional misunderstanders, bro.
[01:09:28] Professional misunderstanders on the liberal side.
[01:09:31] What is the reactionary tendency that people to my right always have,
[01:09:36] whether they are liberal or whether they're far right reactionaries,
[01:09:39] that often goes, oh, you're making a point here.
[01:09:42] I'm going to argue against the different point.
[01:09:44] What is that?
[01:09:46] Organizer memes never organizes or posts memes.
[01:09:49] What's up with that? I know.
[01:09:51] the
[01:09:59] work for the common Harris campaign, by the way, and definitely came up to me on the fucking stream at the DNC to talk about how big of a fan he was by the way very odd that he's overly talking about how he's not a fan anymore like right now he's probably watching right now you son of a bitch
[01:10:14] What happened when you came up to me to talk about how much of a fucking fan you were at the DNC when you were doing social media for the Kamala Harris team that was a different attitude you had.
[01:10:24] Hmm.
[01:10:28] I've only watched 10 to 15 hours of your streams. Oh really? That's not what you were saying when you came up to me at the DNC organizer means
[01:10:36] That was a different thing that you were saying at the DNC in person than what you're saying right now
[01:10:44] This is what I mean
[01:10:46] Not to get all Drake up in this bitch now that I'm in fucking vain cover kind of duh, but it is kind of weird how everybody pulls up super different in person
[01:10:55] And everybody pulls up super different in person.
[01:11:00] They're like, oh my god, a song, you're your content is been transformational.
[01:11:05] It's changed my mind on so many issues.
[01:11:07] Thank you so much for doing what you're doing.
[01:11:09] Only to fucking turn around and be like, on Twitter, be like,
[01:11:12] this guy fucking sucks. Am I right? Come on.
[01:11:14] Please hire me. Democrats, please hire me again.
[01:11:16] I will do all of the social media for you.
[01:11:18] Please.
[01:11:24] What is that?
[01:11:25] What is that about? What's that about? Just don't be fucking weird. Don't be weird. Don't do this. You know what my positions are. I know he knows what my positions are. I don't like when people do that.
[01:11:38] I don't like when people do that at all. I think it's so lame. It's so fucking lame to do that.
[01:11:49] I don't mind people that work for the DNC, there are a lot of wonderful
[01:11:54] house in our heads that are actually that are actually, you know, they work in
[01:11:58] the DNC. I have no issues. See, I called it. I said, he's watching right
[01:12:06] now exactly. It's crazy. Why, why the switch up? Why are you being a
[01:12:11] bitch? Are you too afraid to talk to the other centers, liberals about like,
[01:12:15] What I'm actually saying here is that what it is.
[01:12:18] Don't be a bitch.
[01:12:20] Have some fucking backbone. Have some courage.
[01:12:22] Have some decency.
[01:12:23] I can't be the only one who's sticking my fucking neck out here.
[01:12:26] These guys don't have any sort of real world motion anyway.
[01:12:30] Don't do that.
[01:12:31] You are actually in those rooms.
[01:12:33] If you are going into those rooms and you're not having these conversations in those fucking rooms,
[01:12:39] with those other people, you are selling the population down the line.
[01:12:43] You are literally not doing your fucking job. What good is it to say you're a DSA guy? What good is it to be a socialist if you're not going to fucking
[01:12:51] Try to to pull the in the rooms that you're in trying to pull these people in a reasonable direction
[01:13:02] Not a lot is discourse boring. It's not news that lives don't like you. I know, but it's just like disappointing. That's what I'm saying
[01:13:08] leverage the fucking positions that you get inside of those rooms. Otherwise you're not doing anything
[01:13:17] Okay, this shouldn't be just for you to get a fucking bag
[01:13:22] Yeah, yeah, these guys are so mad that Jennifer Welch doesn't agree with them either
[01:13:28] Jennifer Welch some reason valid criticism
[01:13:38] don't do that.
[01:13:49] Why bother learning from our mistakes when we can just relive the 2016 elections like
[01:13:52] all over again every year. I know.
[01:13:56] I just, um, I'm endlessly frustrated by this stuff because I obviously have a reasonable critique
[01:14:03] here that many people agree with. It's not like I'm alone here. There has to be a reason
[01:14:10] to a certain degree that there are so many people in this community and the community keeps
[01:14:15] growing. And the people that I see that have never even heard of me experienced the same frustrations.
[01:14:20] Maybe they don't have the adequate outlet to vent those frustrations. Maybe they don't have
[01:14:24] the political education to understand exactly why they feel the way that they do. But there are so
[01:14:29] So many people, there are so many people who feel this way after all, as I've said,
[01:14:35] over in Oregon, 60% disapproval for the Democrats right now when they are supposed to be
[01:14:40] the only game in town that is opposing the Trump regime means something.
[01:14:45] Okay, you can't let these Democrats get away with fucking failure after failure.
[01:14:50] I'm not one of these guys who's an ultra.
[01:14:53] I'm not one of these guys who says you can't work with any Democrats.
[01:14:56] I although I understand that the Democratic Party is a liberal capitalist party that is
[01:15:02] a part of the bourgeois democratic process that makes it seem like there is like major
[01:15:07] disagreements between the two major parties, even though there is very clearly established
[01:15:11] consensus politics here at play, which is a major problem, right?
[01:15:16] I still don't shy away from trying to elect good Democrats, Democrats that are close to my
[01:15:21] world view. I don't shy away from working with Democrats who are not even close to my world view.
[01:15:26] right I talked to elected representatives all the time elected representatives that are
[01:15:34] antagonistic to my worldview even. I'll talk to anyone and everyone.
[01:15:40] I work with more democrats than a lot of these fucking charpers do maybe not organize
[01:15:44] their memes because he is literally a fucking dsc operative but like I do that's part
[01:15:49] of the reason why a lot of left is get mad at me and say I'm fucking cheap dog for the
[01:15:52] democratic party that I'm all what I'm taking all this revolutionary potential and
[01:15:55] like slamming it back into the Democratic Party,
[01:15:58] I'm a vote blue no matter who guy.
[01:15:59] That's what they say about me all the fucking time.
[01:16:02] Liberals think I'm a,
[01:16:04] a Marxist-Leninist-Thurb-Worldist
[01:16:06] who is like trying to build the revolutionary
[01:16:09] proletarian vanguard and says,
[01:16:12] electoralism is fucking bullshit all the time.
[01:16:16] And the people to my left,
[01:16:20] the left is, say, I'm far too conciliatory
[01:16:24] with liberal bourgeois democracy, I'm far too
[01:16:28] concealatory, and I am actually destroying the Revolutionary
[01:16:32] potential of the American proletariat.
[01:16:34] It's literally constant.
[01:16:37] It's constant.
[01:16:39] I also think why I think you're innocent.
[01:16:50] I vote for a third party of disingenuous answer to Jennifer
[01:16:52] question, it's not a disingenuous answer. Do you want me? Did I
[01:16:55] start? Or should I say it again? Should I say it again?
[01:17:00] Harm reduction narratives do not fucking work. Harm reduction narratives
[01:17:04] do not work on even someone like me a fucking lifelong democratic party
[01:17:08] voter. That's something to consider when you're making this
[01:17:12] calculation. Okay? That's all I'm saying. No, it's not a
[01:17:16] disingenuous answer at all. No more of this harm reduction narrative
[01:17:20] especially not two years out from the fucking election.
[01:17:26] It's the correct answer.
[01:17:30] You still got your Steinware, 2024 sticker combat first of all.
[01:17:33] I never will vote for Jill Stein.
[01:17:35] And I did not vote for Jill Stein.
[01:17:37] And I told people not to vote for Jill Stein.
[01:17:38] Get the fuck out of here.
[01:17:40] Okay.
[01:17:40] There's other alternatives out there.
[01:17:42] I think given your stance,
[01:17:43] I want more people to come my way.
[01:17:44] Your answer is disingenuous.
[01:17:46] I don't think people are third party voters. I think people just don't vote.
[01:17:54] That's it. Yeah, I'm not voting. Is that with that have been better for you?
[01:18:00] If your goal is to reach the masses, if your goal is for me to present myself as a member of the masses,
[01:18:06] okay, I'm not voting if Gavin Newsom is the president. Should I, or Gavin Newsom is running for president?
[01:18:11] because that is the majority, right?
[01:18:12] That's the plurality, the plurality,
[01:18:14] the elections like the laughter elections,
[01:18:16] like laughter elections, like all our non-voters.
[01:18:18] Does that, does that help you understand?
[01:18:25] Perhaps I should have rewarded it differently by saying,
[01:18:28] yeah, I'm a non-voter at that point.
[01:18:30] Because I did bring that up.
[01:18:33] Organizer means is implying you support the green party.
[01:18:36] Yes, they have to lie.
[01:18:38] They have to lie no matter who it is even if they're like a DSA comrade who's working with the DNC
[01:18:44] They have to lie
[01:18:46] Okay, you here already know that they have to try and negatively polarize people against
[01:18:52] My position because they think my position is a threat and they're right my position is a threat
[01:18:56] I am a threat to establishment Democrats
[01:18:59] They need to understand that I think a lot of those liberal
[01:19:03] Central, centrist adjacent content creators want to get a chorus bag or who want to basically
[01:19:09] become like campaign, play a role in the campaign structure for like D&C establishment
[01:19:15] Democrats know that and that's precisely the reason why they're latching on to the
[01:19:20] statement early on and attacking early on, that's it. I do not want Republicans to win.
[01:19:39] I do not want Republicans to win. These guys, whether they recognize it or not, make
[01:19:46] Republicans would all the time. All of our candidates are good. Hillary was good. Joe was good.
[01:19:50] Common was good. The next candidate will be good. The promise you all want to perfect
[01:19:53] candidate, not a good one. And you're weirdly comfortable with throwing vulnerable people under the
[01:19:56] bus if you don't get one. Okay. This last, this last year has been Democratic Party consultants
[01:20:06] desperately trying to figure out how to reach young men over and over again, being like,
[01:20:10] oh, perhaps we were being so disingenuous in our identity politics late in commentary.
[01:20:16] Okay, perhaps that was an ineffective message strategy. Perhaps we should go on the Joe Rogan experience all of these conversations took place already. And now all it took was for some fucking left this bro coded guy to turn around and say, sorry, Gavin Newsom sucks.
[01:20:31] We need something better, and the people are demanding something better, and Gavin Newsom
[01:20:35] is either not going to win, or if he were to be the candidate, and then he got a marginal
[01:20:42] victory, what comes after is going to be even more heinous than what we have seen.
[01:20:47] This is what the cycle has been for the last 50 fucking years at this point, especially
[01:20:52] post Ronald Reagan.
[01:20:54] This is what has been the cycle, third way neoliberalism that locks in Republican deregulation,
[01:21:00] that locks in Republican tax cuts for the super wealthy.
[01:21:09] And it doesn't make sense.
[01:21:11] The argument here doesn't make sense
[01:21:12] for a couple different reasons.
[01:21:13] One, am I irrelevant and should not be listened to
[01:21:17] or am I the fucking king maker?
[01:21:20] Did I single-handedly cause Kamala Harris
[01:21:22] to lose the election?
[01:21:24] Or am I someone that should be avoided?
[01:21:28] Okay, because you're saying both right now.
[01:21:32] And if I'm farming off of the unpopularity of the Democratic Party,
[01:21:39] doesn't that say more about the unpopularity of the Democratic Party?
[01:21:43] Shouldn't you try to understand where and why and how the Democratic Party is unpopular?
[01:21:49] Rather than yell at a fucking random guy on Twitch?
[01:21:53] Why is there so much voter apathy?
[01:21:59] Why is there so much distrust in the Democratic Party, especially right now when
[01:22:02] historically, when you have a deeply unpopular Republican party, a Republican candidate
[01:22:07] or Republican president or a Republican administration, automatically, the only alternative,
[01:22:12] the only game in town, the harm reduction kicks in because they see the harm, right?
[01:22:21] the harm reduction kicks in and they go, oh, of course I like the Democrats now in comparison.
[01:22:26] Why has that not happened this time? This is why one of my predictions was like, if the
[01:22:31] Democrats don't change their strategy, if the Democrats don't change their strategy, the mid
[01:22:35] terms won't be as favorable to them as they believe it will be. I think it can. There's a real
[01:22:40] opportunity there because there's so much discontent, but they have to at least lean into it.
[01:22:47] That's exactly why I don't get why you're jumping in so hard core on this. I think you do have
[01:22:50] of the motion, which is with the chronically online, only Normie's was four minutes and
[01:22:55] news a day. They aren't going to listen to the rest of what you're saying, saying third
[01:22:58] parties, actual poison, the median voter. What are you talking about? Okay, stop, stop
[01:23:03] trying to argue with like the optics of exactly how I responded to this. Okay, I should
[01:23:08] have said I'm a non voter. I don't care about voting because that is literally the median
[01:23:12] voters position. They don't vote. Okay. The average American does not fucking vote. Jesus
[01:23:19] Christ, this guy's like, no, if I was in your shoes in that moment, I would have answered
[01:23:23] much better dude and everyone would be sucking my dick right now left the right, everyone
[01:23:27] would be like, wow, this is a brilliant analysis. You do realize that most of these people
[01:23:32] that are criticizing right now are not actually criticizing my position, my well thought
[01:23:36] out position that I've advocated for for years and years and years, they're simply developing
[01:23:40] a straw man and attacking that straw man in an effort to try and forcibly exercise someone like
[01:23:46] myself and this community away from the the Democrats. They don't want the Democrats to go to them.
[01:23:54] They want the Democrats to go to them so that 50 people can watch what they have to say.
[01:23:57] They don't want the Democrats to go to people like myself. They don't want the Democrats to listen to
[01:24:01] people like myself. That's all this is.
[01:24:03] is. Many of you are either going, many of you are either going through their second cycle
[01:24:21] of failure and hatred and anger and wondering like, I've been there. Like, I'm fucking, I'm
[01:24:29] a lifelong Democrat, okay? I've been a Democrat my whole life, all right? I've been a
[01:24:34] Democrat my whole fucking life. I've went through more election cycles than you. That's
[01:24:40] just it. That's the big difference here. But there will come a point in time when your third
[01:24:47] I will open as well. Where you go, hmm, kind of feels like the controlled opposition attitude
[01:24:52] to the Democrat Democrats represent is part of the reason why there's a lot of enmity
[01:24:56] towards them. Okay, this doesn't mean that like the Democrats are not, you know, the Democrats are
[01:25:04] unsalvigible or they cannot have good candidates that we can use, right? This doesn't mean that at all.
[01:25:12] You can, Zoron is a great example of this. AOC is a good example of this as well.
[01:25:19] See, look, look at these fucking morons dude. Look at this fucking idiot dude. You hold
[01:25:31] a lot of power involved. You should be encouraging voting. I do. I do. I always do. There
[01:25:36] is never been a moment where you can find a singular instance where I said, don't vote,
[01:25:41] voting is bullshit. You can't find it because that doesn't exist. Stop believing liars.
[01:25:47] in here right now. Okay. I have never urged people not to vote. I have never told
[01:25:55] people to go and vote for the green party and I've never never urged people not to vote,
[01:26:00] ever, ever, ever, ever. That's fucking bullshit. Okay. Stop being a fucking moron that gets
[01:26:08] duped. Every fucking election is like, I have voted on stream as a matter of fact. I filled out my
[01:26:16] ballot on stream. Shut the fuck up. Stop believing these dumb donkeys on the fucking
[01:26:24] on the internet. The only difference between me and someone like Hutch for example who said
[01:26:28] you'd vote for Jeffrey Epstein as long as Jeffrey Epstein was a Democrat is that she has
[01:26:32] discouraged people from voting. He has. I never did. Notice how a lot of the lives of
[01:26:39] tech knew are also pushing for the dead party to try and pull Epstein. Imagine how popular
[01:26:42] they would be after people find out the streaming version of Weinstein is being popularized
[01:26:45] with the Dems. I know the Republicans would literally make fucking mince meat out of the
[01:26:50] Democrats. If the Democrats basically got close to a dude who procured child sexual abuse
[01:26:56] material from victims of sex crimes that he committed that is constantly in a fucking court
[01:27:02] battle over this process that is literally highlighted Nick Fuentes and Lawrence Southern
[01:27:08] and Sam Hyde and numerous other fucking white nationalists, white supremacists, neo-nautzes
[01:27:12] who says the end word like the Republicans love a guy like that. They love that hypocrisy,
[01:27:18] even if they agree with that shit, right? On the one hand, they will defend Nick Fletters
[01:27:23] on the other hand, they will say, Dude, this is your guy or guy who loves Nick Fletters?
[01:27:31] They'll do a highlight reel. His own son is a fucking neo-nautzy. These Democrats are so stupid
[01:27:36] if they thin. No, they're not that stupid. Let's be real. These people are are on crack cocaine
[01:27:41] if they think that like, as long as we take out Hassan and Democrats no longer want to associate
[01:27:49] with Hassan at all, I don't want to go on a stream at all that they'll turn around,
[01:27:54] they'll turn around and they'll the love destiny, sex destiny, you know what I mean?
[01:28:01] Hassan is like homeland, he just want to be liked. Yeah, that's why I take these positions that
[01:28:05] seemingly cause a lot of fucking anger and animosity. Yeah, I love this. My whole life,
[01:28:12] regardless of the perceived popularity of socialism, I have been told over and over again.
[01:28:17] Oh, you're just saying this because it's popular. You're just saying this because it's popular. You're
[01:28:20] just saying this because it's popular. And then year over year, they keep consistently turning
[01:28:25] around us saying it's actually unpopular. We can't be socialist because it's unpopular. But you're
[01:28:29] you're just saying it because it's popular. Okay? What is it? What is this fucking inconsistency?
[01:28:36] What is this inconsistency?
[01:28:42] I am consistent in my positions. Okay. I've always been consistent in my position. That's
[01:28:47] why you can go back to like eight years ago and watch videos, watch articles that are written
[01:28:52] or read articles that are written, watch videos that I've made about calling ice-gift stop-up,
[01:28:57] about warning the Biden administration, about not tackling the issue of immigration.
[01:29:05] If they don't actually follow through on the promises that Joe Biden had made in the
[01:29:09] first 100 days of their immigration agenda, they're ultimately going to fucking have major
[01:29:14] problems.
[01:29:15] The Republicans are going to use it and it be used it.
[01:29:17] And they did warning the Democrats to not lean into right-wing reactionary sentiment on
[01:29:21] immigration.
[01:29:24] Nobody listens to that shit.
[01:29:26] And then when the predictions actually unfold, I just feel like a rich white guy telling
[01:29:30] black and brown people who are literally under occupation is he to shut up, shut up,
[01:29:33] shut up, shut up, stop.
[01:29:35] We're not doing that.
[01:29:36] Okay.
[01:29:37] This kind of shit is just for the birds.
[01:29:38] Okay.
[01:29:39] It's just for the birds.
[01:29:40] If you want to, if you want to say I'm a rich white guy and I'm racist and I love the Republican
[01:29:44] party, whatever, you can keep chirping that maybe in your little fucking group, they'll
[01:29:48] believe you, they'll agree with you.
[01:29:50] It doesn't matter.
[01:29:51] of the Democrats that you actually want to get elected have actually gone out to those
[01:29:55] fucking streets. I have, okay? Stop it. Stop it. You are a record. You don't want progress.
[01:30:05] You just want to keep chirping. Okay? That's it. That's it. It's it. It's it's idiotic. It's
[01:30:13] also electoral poison. If all you care about is electability, that's electoral poison.
[01:30:18] Okay.
[01:30:28] Democrats.
[01:30:30] When we were talking about the the genocide in Gaza, we're like,
[01:30:33] La La can't hear you shut the fuck up bitch.
[01:30:35] All of a sudden they care about marginal people.
[01:30:37] Get the fuck out of here.
[01:30:37] No one believes this shit.
[01:30:48] the
[01:30:56] during the time liberals like hush argued that looked like a song were not any
[01:30:59] for common will win those same liberals not blame us on for common losing
[01:31:03] oh while we had a 50 50 chance getting that right how amazing yeah if only the
[01:31:07] democrats didn't blow that 50 50 chance
[01:31:10] i'm not saying the odds are fucking incredibly difficult to comprehend
[01:31:13] i'm saying that it was a 50 50 chance of the democrats blew it
[01:31:17] All right.
[01:31:30] She took up propaganda China magazine story and using your phase.
[01:31:32] I know I'm going to read it.
[01:31:39] Anyway, let's watch Jennifer Welch's take away from that conversation or at least like the major controversy
[01:31:47] that came up after the fact.
[01:31:49] Is winning right now?
[01:31:50] They're winning because maga is so horrible.
[01:31:53] They're pulling historically, historically low.
[01:31:57] And within the Democratic Party,
[01:31:59] you have a couple of different sex.
[01:32:01] You have the corporate Democrats,
[01:32:03] the vote blue no matter who.
[01:32:06] And then you have real progressive Democrats
[01:32:09] who kind of feel homeless and end up voting
[01:32:12] with the Democrats because of harm reduction.
[01:32:15] And I have was the former, and I'm morphing into the latter.
[01:32:21] After Combo lost, I really started taking a look.
[01:32:24] Why?
[01:32:24] Jennifer Welch is not alone.
[01:32:26] Jennifer Welch is speaking to a very common experience.
[01:32:34] Jennifer Welch's experience going from vote blue no matter who in a harm reduction voter
[01:32:40] to a voter that says, I think we need to demand more from the democratic electives
[01:32:45] and it clearly the harm reduction narratives are not working.
[01:32:49] Is an experience shared by many people, okay?
[01:32:53] Many average American liberal democratic party voters.
[01:32:57] A lot of these centers are relying on the harm reduction
[01:33:01] to kick in. A lot of these centers are relying on
[01:33:04] Democrats basically looking at the current state of affairs with the Republican party, and it's unlimited cruelty.
[01:33:09] And saying, oh, they're going to come back to us. They're going to come back to us. We don't have to do anything.
[01:33:13] anything, okay? Yeah, that's it. I really, really, really appreciate that she is
[01:33:20] thinking your neck out on this too.
[01:33:22] Or Democrats losing to this man, this moronic fascist man, how are we losing? So
[01:33:30] I had a conversation with leftist streamer, a sonpiker and Austin show on I've had
[01:33:39] in New York City. And a clip from our conversation is going viral all over Twitter and social
[01:33:47] media TikTok, Instagram, et cetera. And this conversation to me is trying, it appears that
[01:33:54] people online are trying to shut this conversation down. And when somebody's trying to do that,
[01:33:59] then I think, oh, this is the conversation we absolutely need to have. And so I'm going to play a
[01:34:04] little bit of it right now. Please do not back out of this video, because to me, this is the
[01:34:09] most important conversation to be had within the political spaces right now for anybody that
[01:34:15] wants to fight fascism play the clip. Did you suppose they didn't get it out for J.D. Vance or
[01:34:22] Gavin News said? I have to feel for Gavin News. I wouldn't be like what about you.
[01:34:25] I'd probably go third party. You would? Oh yeah. I mean at that point it doesn't even matter.
[01:34:32] Like, because my policy on this is the same as like my refusal to endorse Kamala Harris.
[01:34:39] The reason why I did not endorse Kamala Harris was because she did things that were not only
[01:34:45] unproductive, but also unconscionable, but and I still stand on that.
[01:34:50] I still talk about it all the time, because people constantly bring it up and you didn't
[01:34:53] sufficiently promote Kamala Harris.
[01:34:55] You're the reason why she lost.
[01:34:56] I'm like, I am incapable.
[01:35:00] There is no singular force in this country that is capable of making your breaking in election.
[01:35:04] And if that was real, then it is the most idiotic thing not to listen to my demands,
[01:35:10] but everybody knows that that's not real, right?
[01:35:12] If I had this singular force to be able to make Kamala Harris the president, then Kamala
[01:35:17] Harris should be coming to me every day and being like, let me do a collab with you, please.
[01:35:21] Right?
[01:35:22] That's not the case, of course.
[01:35:23] And they know that's why they didn't do it.
[01:35:25] But the campaigns are always responsible for whether or not they are able to win the
[01:35:33] crowds.
[01:35:34] Okay, pause that right there, Kylie, and leave it up.
[01:35:38] So what are you saying here? I think is really true.
[01:35:43] Number one, when it comes to Gavin Newsom, for somebody like Hassan, who has felt very
[01:35:47] homeless in the American two-party system, you have Gavin, I gave him a hypothetical
[01:35:54] question, Gavin Newsom, or JD bands. Gavin Newsom, instead of going on to Hassan's
[01:36:01] to move slow. It's because they're all locked in listening to mother.
[01:36:06] Oh, he has had Charlie Kirk on and he has had Ben Shapiro on.
[01:36:11] Davenu some has. In each case, he seeded progressive causes. He seeded trans rights.
[01:36:16] And he seeded ice to Ben Shapiro. Very easily. He's fumbled on Israel big time.
[01:36:23] And he's a huge corporate donor.
[01:36:25] receives a lot of pack money and he has said that he will not tax billionaires.
[01:36:29] All of these things are very unpopular with Democrats at large, specifically with this group
[01:36:36] of people that feel homeless in the America-to-party system.
[01:36:41] So from the Sun's perspective here, he's like, I'm going about third party because he doesn't
[01:36:46] see any difference in the help from marginalized people.
[01:36:50] he sees one person that campaigns is slightly liberal,
[01:36:54] yet takes all of the same money from these corporate packs.
[01:36:58] And so online, the liberals have completely wet the bed,
[01:37:04] and they're going after his son, two and a half years out
[01:37:08] from age and roll election.
[01:37:10] And are trying to pigeonhole him and that he's a terrible American,
[01:37:16] and all of this could be his fault, which is insane.
[01:37:19] If we look at historically what's been happening in American politics, Bernie started beating
[01:37:24] this drum. And his message in my opinion, and I didn't vote for Bernie, and I have recently said
[01:37:30] I regret that vote because I have been doing a lot of internal thinking and studying as to
[01:37:38] what are my politics, because my politics have typically been my whole adult life. I'm liberal
[01:37:44] and I vote with Democrats. Well, the Democrats keep losing.
[01:37:47] I do want to mention something, though, it's not a good sign that Democrats are running the
[01:37:57] electability or not even the electability argument, but the harm reduction narratives, like
[01:38:03] two years out, it's not a good sign at all that a lot of these liberal content creators who feel as though
[01:38:10] So who feel as though like they have to do this over and over again, they're doing
[01:38:17] it so far out right now before that even before the primers even happen, especially
[01:38:23] when like the harm reduction narratives are just not, they're, they're not good, they're
[01:38:27] not good at getting people off the couch is precisely what I'm saying, right?
[01:38:32] Like I can't believe I'm literally being pre-blamed for a loss that might take place in
[01:38:39] the fucking future.
[01:38:45] And so I started digging beneath that surface,
[01:38:47] wired Democrats losing,
[01:38:49] specifically during Kamala Harris' campaign,
[01:38:51] when she started trotting around with Liz Cheney,
[01:38:54] it really struck me.
[01:38:56] Like, why is she trying to get these people to vote for her
[01:38:59] that will never ever vote for her?
[01:39:01] Why is it she courting the progressive side of the party?
[01:39:06] And here's what's so critical.
[01:39:08] In the last campaign, it's not that Trump grew his vote.
[01:39:14] It's that last people that typically vote Democrat
[01:39:17] turned out.
[01:39:19] So the Democratic Party, instead of quoting the progressive side,
[01:39:24] they go and court the Ben Shapiro's,
[01:39:27] the Liz Cheneys, the Charlie Kirk's,
[01:39:29] these elusive right wingers that are never ever gonna peel off
[01:39:34] and vote for a liberal, because here's the thing.
[01:39:37] in middle America, everybody believes
[01:39:39] comalant to be super progressive.
[01:39:43] The hint of the world are like,
[01:39:44] no, she's a corporate dim.
[01:39:46] Gavin Newsom is a corporate dim,
[01:39:48] but in the psyche of the American public,
[01:39:51] they're like, oh, they're so liberal.
[01:39:53] So moving to the center is a full's errand
[01:39:57] and is perceived as disingenuous.
[01:40:00] So Kylie, it's not only perceived as disingenuous,
[01:40:04] It almost looks like you're, you're, you're, you're caught with your pants down, right?
[01:40:10] But also, it's not for like a real base if Kamala Harris said, I'm in it for Medicare
[01:40:17] for all baby affordability is a major crisis that Americans are facing and a big part of
[01:40:22] that is the affordability of healthcare.
[01:40:24] And therefore, I'm going to solve this fucking problem.
[01:40:27] If she ran on that, people would at least have something to hold onto.
[01:40:31] That's the main success of Zoram Mamdoni.
[01:40:35] That is the main success of Zoram Mamdoni.
[01:40:40] He had five policies that directly tackled some of the key issues
[01:40:44] that New Yorkers were facing that were within the confines of,
[01:40:49] within the confines of permissibility,
[01:40:52] it was totally doable and he's doing them right now.
[01:40:57] the
[01:41:00] is that simple that's the reason why he won
[01:41:03] in spite of the the establishment of a
[01:41:05] guy's going after him. Even though he
[01:41:07] won the primary. Right in spite of the
[01:41:10] entire Republican machine coming
[01:41:11] after him is by the Israel lobby
[01:41:13] coming after him.
[01:41:16] Why are liberals freaking out about
[01:41:17] us on not coming to vote for Gavin
[01:41:18] Newsom isn't the point of his
[01:41:19] interest campaign to win over
[01:41:20] Republican voters if you're
[01:41:20] confident in the moderation strategy
[01:41:22] a sense comments shouldn't
[01:41:23] concern you if they do ask
[01:41:24] yourself why.
[01:41:25] Yes. Exactly. And if you think I'm a Republican, if you think I'm a Republican, right?
[01:41:32] If I'm a Maga, if I'm a Maga, then you should court my Maga vote. Okay? You love
[01:41:37] courting Maga voters. Now, Republicans are moderates and people are just highlighting
[01:41:42] that left this aren't worth the energy. They say they would vote over Kamala with an
[01:41:46] arms embargo. We no longer believe them. Okay? If left this aren't worth the energy,
[01:41:52] why are you freaking out about it?
[01:41:55] If we're not worth the energy, why are you spending all your time
[01:41:58] charting? Perhaps it's because you recognize that there is a change.
[01:42:00] There's a shift happening in the base of support.
[01:42:03] And you're losing your fucking grip.
[01:42:05] You're losing your grip at the core of the party.
[01:42:09] You at least recognize that the establishment of the guys that are losing
[01:42:11] their grip of power at the core of the party.
[01:42:13] They're losing the base are, you know, no longer going to be able to give you
[01:42:18] money.
[01:42:18] It's super simple. All you can do in this situation is recognize what the demands are of the public.
[01:42:26] And then communicate those demands to the establishment representatives that you're
[01:42:32] according the campaign contributions of. You want those campaign contributions to come down into your pockets.
[01:42:38] You want to get paid by them. That's why you're playing the role of this like servant of the DNC for free right now.
[01:42:44] Just tell them the truth.
[01:42:48] It's a mutually beneficial relationship, regardless, it's win-win.
[01:42:53] If you say the truth, you'll become more popular.
[01:42:56] Okay.
[01:42:56] If you're running around thinking like,
[01:42:58] why won't people understand that the establishment
[01:43:00] Dems are fucking awesome?
[01:43:01] Okay.
[01:43:02] Why is this also popular?
[01:43:04] If you're running around thinking that,
[01:43:05] because I know some of you are, right?
[01:43:07] The haters that are in here right now.
[01:43:09] This is the reason, because I have uncompromising positions.
[01:43:14] I have a mechanism for change.
[01:43:16] I believe in it, I believe in the affirmative vision for American society.
[01:43:21] I will work with people in the Democratic Party to get that vision across.
[01:43:26] I'm not going to be inauthentic. I'm not going to fucking lie to my audience.
[01:43:30] I'm not going to say Joe Biden isn't a dog shit old ass cadaver that is going to lead the country into a horrible state, right?
[01:43:43] I'm not going to, I'm not going to shelter my audience from that truth.
[01:43:49] You can get mad if you want.
[01:43:52] But I'm principled and I'm always going to be honest.
[01:43:55] I'm principled, I'm stubborn and I'm always going to be honest about my perspective.
[01:43:59] You might not agree with that perspective.
[01:44:01] If you don't want to fucking agree with that perspective, that's fine.
[01:44:04] We can have a conversation about why I might be right and you might be wrong.
[01:44:13] I'm unbought and unbossed, which is why a lot of these guys get really fucking mad because
[01:44:20] I'm backed by my own community.
[01:44:23] That's it.
[01:44:24] I don't need to go to the DNC and beg them for finances.
[01:44:27] I don't need to go to Democratic candidacies and go, hey, can I get like $7,000 for a post,
[01:44:32] please?
[01:44:33] That's it.
[01:44:34] And it fucking pisses people off.
[01:44:37] And the reality of the matter is, the Piker broadcasting service is sponsored by UWRs
[01:44:42] for you, the viewers, as you know,
[01:44:44] your subscriptions help me maintain my editorial
[01:44:46] and opinions, but like even before I had
[01:44:48] a fuck ton of subscribers,
[01:44:49] I still was saying the same shit.
[01:44:52] I was saying the same shit.
[01:44:55] I was preaching to a much smaller audience.
[01:45:03] It was my principal stance
[01:45:05] that allowed me to reach this level of success,
[01:45:08] Not because what I was saying was automatically popular, it took fucking years and years
[01:45:15] and years for people to get there, okay?
[01:45:29] Pop up, or let's finish this clip and then I'll pop up some of the reactions.
[01:45:33] No, combat against the couch, not necessarily even against the Republican Party, but usually
[01:45:37] you're fighting against the couch.
[01:45:38] People who just don't go out and vote.
[01:45:40] And for me, the way I see it is
[01:45:43] that if the Democratic establishment
[01:45:45] makes this decision one more time,
[01:45:47] just as they did with Hillary Clinton,
[01:45:49] just as they did with Kamala Harris,
[01:45:51] and in some way, just as they did with Joe Biden as well,
[01:45:54] which led to Trump too, then they just don't care.
[01:45:57] And there's not, I think, yeah.
[01:45:59] Let me tell you something, I agree with everything you say,
[01:46:01] but as a person who lived in a red state for 50 years,
[01:46:05] I would crawl through 10 feet of concrete to vote for Gavin Newsom, even though I think
[01:46:10] he's duplicitous and hypocrite, a thirst trap, hungry for power, all of the things that
[01:46:16] you say.
[01:46:17] And harms the Democratic Party and sets the psychological soil to be more prey to fascism,
[01:46:22] all of that I agree with.
[01:46:24] But there are so many young queer, black, brown, marginalized people in red states.
[01:46:30] even though this corporate Democrat is, you see it in a long term.
[01:46:36] You are still young and helpful. Some of us have seen a lifetime of third-party can
[01:46:40] is loose over and over again. We're worn out on a thread. What are you talking about?
[01:46:43] I'm not even a fucking third-party advocate, okay? At least for the time being, there is no third-party
[01:46:49] viability. Like, if you listen to my commentary all the time, I speak on it all the fucking time.
[01:46:56] This is part of the reason why I work within the confines of the Democratic Party,
[01:46:59] Because unfortunately, the only viable outlet that we have right now that is closest to our agenda, okay?
[01:47:07] Like the third party viability conversation is basically the same conversation that liberals are having with someone like myself
[01:47:15] Okay
[01:47:16] Which is you're the reason why common loss and you're the reason why the third party is not viable?
[01:47:22] I don't think you guys understand. There's a reason why Zoromom Donny ran is the Democratic
[01:47:28] mayor of New York as a Democratic socialist. Okay. If he ran as a third party candidate
[01:47:35] in New York City, he would not have won that fucking primary. Regardless of how good
[01:47:39] his policies are. Unfortunately, that's how his politics works. Okay. That's how politics
[01:47:47] work in general.
[01:47:53] Can you now please internalize that a song said he'd vote third party
[01:47:55] because the situation was Gavin versus J.D.
[01:47:57] Vance would already be so cook to be pointless.
[01:47:59] He doesn't actually think third party is viable.
[01:48:00] Get this through your skulls please.
[01:48:01] Exactly.
[01:48:06] Are you seriously ignoring the
[01:48:09] what which hunt your community is doing against me?
[01:48:11] Who are you?
[01:48:17] What, Hassan, can we have a sex stream soon?
[01:48:25] Game. In the short term game, a president knew some of our president JD van.
[01:48:31] Okay, so that's the clip, and that's where they cut it off that went viral.
[01:48:35] And Hassan was making the point to me, and we're friends, and so we're having a political conversation
[01:48:41] and these conversations should not be shut down. This is the most important conversation
[01:48:45] as far as Democrats winning moving forward.
[01:48:48] A son is saying, look, Democrats are up against the couch.
[01:48:51] What are you going to do to motivate people to get up off their ass and go vote?
[01:48:55] Going and playing pati kick with Ben Shapiro is not going to do it.
[01:49:00] Playing pati kick with Liz Cheney is not going to do it.
[01:49:04] Taking a pack money is not going to do it.
[01:49:06] It's going to make people like a son and many, many others that feel homeless
[01:49:11] that feel homeless in the United States political two-party political system
[01:49:15] stay on the couch. And so I think it's a really valid point. Now, I have this red state trauma
[01:49:21] of living in a red state for 50 years and seeing how damaging.
[01:49:26] A complementary point to the position that Jennifer Walsh is making here, but
[01:49:32] it's not just people who feel homeless in the base of the Democratic Party.
[01:49:35] It's a lot of moderates, too, because there is an economy of time that you spend on the
[01:49:45] campaign trail because Democrats unfortunately only run every two years, every four years.
[01:49:50] If at that, they forget that Republicans are running all the time.
[01:49:54] They're always advancing their agenda.
[01:49:58] And the reality the matter is, there is no real argument for we are pro-Israel Democrats.
[01:50:05] like that's not real the swing district voters the median voters are not sitting around and going
[01:50:10] oh I really want to vote for the Democratic Party because their pro is real.
[01:50:16] I really want to vote for the Democratic Party because they are continuing the genocide
[01:50:19] of Palestinians with my tax dollars. Like that is my like I was I was going to vote for the
[01:50:24] Republicans but now I'm voting for the Democrats for that. There is no there is no swing district
[01:50:29] voter, for example, that's going around and saying, I actually want to make sure that, you
[01:50:34] know, SIGNA, I at now United healthcare CEOs deliver super profits for the, for the share
[01:50:42] holders. Okay. I don't want to, I don't want to take that away from them. Like they're not,
[01:50:47] they're not making decisions on this. They're making decisions on the Democrats looking
[01:50:51] silly, because the Republicans take advantage of the fact that the Democrats don't have
[01:50:57] discernible policies,
[01:51:00] decipherable policies.
[01:51:02] They don't have like key plank positions
[01:51:05] that you can identify them with.
[01:51:07] They are not definable by key plank positional policy making
[01:51:12] in the same way that Republicans are as a matter of fact.
[01:51:16] This was a major difference between Bernie Sanders for example,
[01:51:19] and someone like Kamala Harris,
[01:51:21] you know what Bernie's about.
[01:51:25] You know what Bernie's about, right?
[01:51:27] He's been telling you what he's about for years.
[01:51:30] Okay.
[01:51:32] You don't know what Conalher is about, so when you don't know what she's about, then
[01:51:38] Republicans can present her as like a silly person, a silly person who wants to give
[01:51:43] who's only decipherable policy position is only decipherable policy position is like
[01:51:50] giving bottom surgeries that the transgender Guatemala is in a detention facility, right?
[01:51:57] And then Democrats, look at that and go, oh, we got cleaned out on this
[01:52:00] transient.
[01:52:01] We got to cut the trans people out of this conversation.
[01:52:02] It's like, no, if you want to defend trans people, and you should, you should be
[01:52:05] uncompromising in your defense or trans people and for all marginalized communities,
[01:52:11] then you present a comprehensive universal policy agenda that people can get on board with
[01:52:20] so that the discourse is around those things, the good things that you're going to give
[01:52:24] them and you're not constantly finding yourself in a defensive posture on culture
[01:52:29] or issues where you get fucking owned by the dumbass Republicans who lie about everything.
[01:52:36] It's that simple.
[01:52:38] If you had a vision and an agenda that said, hey, we want free health care.
[01:52:43] We want free college.
[01:52:44] You're going to get attacked.
[01:52:45] Let's be real.
[01:52:46] You're going to get destroyed by mainstream media.
[01:52:48] But at a time, when mainstream media is also losing its influence,
[01:52:53] There are people like me and many others who will ride for you, who will make up for the lack of support that you're getting from newspapers.
[01:53:03] There are people out there who will go to your town halls.
[01:53:07] You will be able to have a real populist grassroots back candidacy.
[01:53:13] This is the reason why Zoram was able to win against all odds.
[01:53:23] There is no mathematical equation where this works, by the way, Kamala was able to change
[01:53:33] 3% of voters' minds, but she lost 11% who voted for Biden.
[01:53:39] This math did not work, and people like my so-called see-from a mile away, this idea that
[01:53:43] you're like posturing to the moderates, posturing to the right wingers, you're going to pull
[01:53:47] right wing voters away from the Trump campaign, and they're going to come back to you.
[01:53:51] was bullshit.
[01:53:56] Republican policies are.
[01:53:57] And so I will vote for these short term solutions
[01:54:02] to mitigate so that a woman who has been raped
[01:54:07] can receive healthcare, can get an abortion
[01:54:11] because an Oklahoma right now she can't.
[01:54:14] And I'm interested in having this conversation with his son
[01:54:17] because what we voted for with Biden is we voted for a sober driver. We had a drunk driver with
[01:54:23] Trump and we needed a sober driver and Joe Biden was our sober driver and Joe Biden did some good
[01:54:31] things. There was a lot of policies that he did that were good but a lot of things he did
[01:54:36] continued and incubated fascism and it's a really important conversation we have to have. The
[01:54:42] the Democratic Party taking corporate money, giving blank checks to Israel, compromises them.
[01:54:49] And then to the voters at large, they go, well, there's really no difference in the
[01:54:53] to you.
[01:54:54] And then you end up voting, you know, your pre-conceived default settings of politics.
[01:55:01] And so here's what happens.
[01:55:02] That's where they cut off the video and stay with me here.
[01:55:05] Here's all the liberals just bashing so on this guy, Sam, this is incredible when you
[01:55:10] think about it if left us like Hassan had their way Republicans would be in charge from 2016 to
[01:55:16] 2032 at least. How is he even considered in a still funny because like there's only been a
[01:55:22] brief moment in between where the Democrats actually won back power for the record. Like even
[01:55:30] in his like hypothetical it's like okay really if it wasn't Joe Biden it was Bernie Sanders in 2020
[01:55:36] It would be bad.
[01:55:39] They're all centrist opportunities.
[01:55:41] Okay.
[01:55:42] Well, I don't want to say to Tim here, is what his son is saying is we need to build a party that has an FDR style impact that really really impacts the lives of people instead of the slow moving incremental change that the current democratic party always proposes and leaves so many people out in the pasture and incubates them to go.
[01:56:06] vote for the change candidate and in both 2016 and 2024 that change candidate was Donald Trump.
[01:56:15] When Kamala Harris put herself with Liz Cheney, they rigged of the two-party system establishment.
[01:56:21] And again, Donald Trump seemed like the disruptor.
[01:56:25] Go to the next one.
[01:56:27] This is the one that really popped up.
[01:56:30] that the chef says,
[01:56:32] when asked if he'd vote for Gavin Newsom or J.D. Vance for President,
[01:56:34] Hassan said he'd vote third party.
[01:56:36] This proofs of Sondas and Kira,
[01:56:37] about any of the marginalized groups he pretends
[01:56:40] to support all he cares about is taking many from them,
[01:56:43] so he can buy more outfits for string.
[01:56:46] Okay, who served the chef?
[01:56:47] This is intellectually dishonest, completely from top to bottom.
[01:56:52] Gavin Newsom has proven that he doesn't care about trans people.
[01:56:58] Gavin Newsom has proved that people will say like all Gavin Newsom advanced like so many bills that are LGBT friendly of course
[01:57:04] He did no one is saying that blue states are not safe havens for trans people, okay?
[01:57:09] The point is after all of that
[01:57:13] After all of that why is he positioning himself as more moderate on trans issues because he wants to run for president that signals that he's going to pivot
[01:57:22] Okay, and if all you care about is the protection of trans people
[01:57:26] which I don't think anyone is actually like that for the record. No one is no one is a single issue
[01:57:31] voter on trans people. And yes, this includes trans people as well. Guess why? There's trans
[01:57:37] people still need to pay for fucking healthcare. Trans people are not magical mystical beings that
[01:57:41] like live in this separate plan of existence, where they don't give a shit about healthcare,
[01:57:45] they don't give a shit about making rent, they don't give a shit about having a good job.
[01:57:49] Right? Like everybody cares about the universal policies that we're talking about. But
[01:57:54] But the issue here, the issue here comes from the fact that these guys would be like,
[01:58:00] oh, I'm here.
[01:58:01] I don't care about much of people.
[01:58:02] You don't care about trans people.
[01:58:03] But you don't care about trans people.
[01:58:04] You want Gavin Newsom, who is openly communicating that he's going to pivot away from this
[01:58:08] Transship, you think that's your candidate, right?
[01:58:16] It's so stupid.
[01:58:26] Yes, of course, blue states are better for trans people.
[01:58:28] Then, then, then, red states are,
[01:58:30] is not even a question.
[01:58:32] Gavin Newsom himself has also unironically
[01:58:36] advocated against the uh... trains built as well internally within the party
[01:58:39] structure
[01:58:42] like a lot of those bills get past like ten walls took a lot of credit for the
[01:58:45] democrat farm and labor parties uh...
[01:58:47] wins
[01:58:49] uh... with the one person majority that they have in the state
[01:58:52] in the state congress right
[01:58:54] and was interesting about that is that
[01:58:56] apparently and i have some inside baseball
[01:58:59] on this
[01:59:02] I have some inside baseball on this.
[01:59:07] Tim Walsh wasn't exactly on board with a lot of these bills.
[01:59:10] They take credit for it after the fact that the same way that Republicans take credit
[01:59:13] for the infrastructure spending that they vote against.
[01:59:20] Okay?
[01:59:24] These guys will stand in opposition to progressive legislation and then take credit for it after the fact.
[01:59:38] Kathy Hulkel did this as well.
[01:59:43] It's just very frustrating, but this is not just about trans people anyway.
[01:59:47] Like my argument is not just about trans people of regardless, okay, it's not.
[01:59:54] My argument for trans defense revolves around a good offense on universal policies so
[02:00:01] that the trans conversation is not even a major point of contention so that the opposition
[02:00:05] looks silly and ridiculous because at the end of the day, trans folks need healthcare
[02:00:09] too.
[02:00:10] At the end of the day, trans folks also want to fucking make rent, right?
[02:00:16] You want to give them an argument to vote for you in spite of their transphobia.
[02:00:21] Same with racists, same with homophobes.
[02:00:24] So when one side is saying, hey, listen, your transphobic fine sucks the suck, trans people
[02:00:28] exist.
[02:00:29] Nothing you could do about it, but do you want universal health care?
[02:00:32] Because we'll give it to you regardless of your fucking idiotic world view versus
[02:00:36] the other side going, no, we're going to kill trans people.
[02:00:39] You have a much higher likelihood of winning those guys over to vote for you than constantly
[02:00:46] being even on a defensive posture about trans people being like no trans people are beautiful
[02:00:50] they're wonderful. We care about our trans allies. We care about trans people even though the
[02:00:55] Democrats aren't even doing that. I saw someone talk about the FDR stuff right where they were
[02:01:00] like FDR got the new deal across because he cave to the fucking white supremacists. And it got me
[02:01:08] thinking I was like yeah you know there is truth to this like politics is the art of what's possible
[02:01:13] right except Democrats don't have the material improvements in the agenda and they're
[02:01:19] just caving to the racists. Like like people, people don't understand that the conversation
[02:01:33] around FDR is oftentimes is oftentimes turns on it turned on its head, right?
[02:01:43] Where people will be like, oh, FDR only, FDR only was able to get the new deal across,
[02:01:52] which, you know, spelled material improvements for large segments of society by carving
[02:01:59] how concessions against black people. Okay. By carving out concessions against black
[02:02:08] people, like basically implemented what the practice known as like historic practice known
[02:02:13] as the red lining all the stuff, right? Except Democrats are doing the that, right? They're
[02:02:19] they're conceding on the racism stuff without even advocating for material improvements
[02:02:24] It's a demonstrable fucking failure.
[02:02:29] I'm saying you don't need to do any of that.
[02:02:31] The A historical interpretation of FDR piss me off.
[02:02:33] They built beautiful public housing and black neighborhoods like the Harlem houses.
[02:02:36] We still exist today.
[02:02:37] I know.
[02:02:38] I know.
[02:02:39] I know.
[02:02:40] I'm just saying that even in the false interpretation, it still doesn't help.
[02:02:43] There analysis, right?
[02:02:46] Yeah.
[02:02:47] one
[02:02:52] one doesn't ask the keyboard says this will melt that is going to be
[02:02:54] hilarious in research that after news and gets dogwalked out of his
[02:02:56] lane by uh... bushar or awesome next year which I agree that's another
[02:03:00] thing that I agree as well
[02:03:02] like Gavin Newsom is is no motion
[02:03:06] the whole reason newsom is actually serving this presumptive twenty twenty
[02:03:08] eight nominees that is so hard is that it in actually open field he doesn't
[02:03:12] really bring anything uniquely beneficial to the table he's a
[02:03:14] a blanjaner governor with good hair and skeletons in his closet is boring.
[02:03:18] Not everything is that deep man.
[02:03:19] No one cares about news in percentage.
[02:03:21] Just the idea that the largest lepti-conocritor case, of course, although over the Democrat,
[02:03:24] is going to make people wonder about his priorities.
[02:03:26] I think it's fine at the Pleasant unconditional vote to a politician who wasn't even
[02:03:29] announced that they're running in the presidential primaries that are still two years away.
[02:03:33] I think it'd probably be good if the largest lepti-conocritor was stop pushing the bullshit
[02:03:36] both sides of the same narrative in a midterm year and maybe galvanized big audience into
[02:03:40] taking electoral action.
[02:03:42] I think he's actually doing an important service to the party by making it clear early
[02:03:45] on that Newsom would carry a lot of baggage as a candidate in the form of deep distrust
[02:03:48] this skepticism within the progressive base, which in some ways needs to be addressed
[02:03:52] if he's going to run.
[02:03:53] You can be mad about it, but he's acting as a mouthpiece for a very commonly held sentiment
[02:03:57] with an a core constituency of the Democratic base, not actively shaping it, whether Newsom
[02:04:01] wants to modify those concerns or plan around them is up to him, but you can't just
[02:04:07] ignore it.
[02:04:08] Yeah, I agree, man, why would he try to help his
[02:04:10] audience make ground in responsible decisions when
[02:04:12] instead you could further inflame the delusion by saying
[02:04:14] something like every Democrat would shoot all
[02:04:16] trans folks in the head if it meant getting one more
[02:04:18] vote, LeMau. You're not engaging with anything I'm
[02:04:20] talking about, so I'm just going to opt out now.
[02:04:22] Exactly. They never have this. They never want to have an
[02:04:25] argument. They never want to have an honest conversation.
[02:04:28] They just want to fucking move the needle in a million
[02:04:31] different directions to be like a sombat, a sombat, a
[02:04:33] sombat. This is not going to address the real
[02:04:36] issues that you have in terms of advancing a successful campaign. Okay. You can think I am singularly
[02:04:43] responsible for hypnotizing the fucking masses away from voting for the Democratic Party like
[02:04:48] a fucking moron, or you can recognize that I'm simply a vehicle for that enmity.
[02:04:54] Okay. I am simply a mouthpiece for that anger and that very real development that people experience
[02:05:00] and it's not just the progressive base either.
[02:05:05] It's not just the progressive base either.
[02:05:15] It doesn't care.
[02:05:16] Because this hypothetical bread, the brills are so fucking comfy.
[02:05:19] They are spending their time under fashion, the ponder on realities,
[02:05:21] and don't exist.
[02:05:22] I know.
[02:05:23] We still obviously don't like Trump a lot of America's don't like Trump.
[02:05:34] But people for God how frustrating it was for millions of people with no sense of reality
[02:05:43] to feel so emboldened in this way.
[02:05:46] What is happening in terms of, look, you say you care about law enforcement, law enforcement
[02:05:52] resources, being put into this because of these series.
[02:05:59] That's the worst thing I should do.
[02:06:01] Who gives a fuck about cops, man?
[02:06:03] Oh my God.
[02:06:04] He productive good.
[02:06:05] These are people.
[02:06:07] They're black people too.
[02:06:09] You're black woman.
[02:06:11] You're the daughter of an agree.
[02:06:12] So they are trying to win a race riot against black immigrants.
[02:06:18] Yeah, the dead.
[02:06:19] Please.
[02:06:20] Who gives a fuck about the police resources?
[02:06:22] This is not new.
[02:06:25] This is not new in terms of these tropes.
[02:06:35] Yeah, I guess I hit the hard beyond that again.
[02:06:38] And people now that this clip is resurfaced, I'm sure people will refuse to understand
[02:06:42] the point that I'm making and we'll get mad at the aesthetics once again.
[02:06:47] This was my criticism to Kamala Harris and the way she was addressing the Haitians are
[02:06:51] are eating cats and dogs narrative, okay? Bringing up the fact that, bringing up the fact that,
[02:07:04] like back when, back when Republicans were in charge, it was unimaginably frustrating
[02:07:12] for every single American to constantly hear the dumbest morons chirping over and over and over again.
[02:07:21] the
[02:07:31] like it's just it's just so it's so stupid I was saying like remind people of that remind people of how annoyed they were at the stupidity of the Republican party
[02:07:44] The haters are eating the dogs.
[02:07:46] Aren't you eating babies grow them out?
[02:07:48] Yes.
[02:07:49] Piedpiker?
[02:07:50] Yes, I'm eating babies, dude.
[02:07:52] About illegal nature of what ice is doing when he
[02:07:56] He platformed in Shapiro.
[02:07:58] And so to put the burden of this on his son who
[02:08:01] saying, I'm not going to settle for a fascist
[02:08:04] collaborator who always is reaching
[02:08:07] to platform fascists.
[02:08:09] And that also struck me and saying on this stream,
[02:08:11] you cover politics, go to protest, talk to pauses.
[02:08:13] to talk to pauses is such a while these lip streamers have debates about a hypothetical
[02:08:17] election between a songpiker and Ben Shapiro or what if abstain was a Democrat or ethical
[02:08:21] incest and ethical CP right that's what they fucking talk about endlessly and it's very
[02:08:29] frustrating and then they go Hassan doesn't care about any of the shit because he's rich and
[02:08:33] then dumbfucks eat it up I mean I responded to one of those dumbfucks hold on where where is it
[02:08:39] I do want to point this out.
[02:08:42] Yeah, there's this like terminally online take that people love advancing over and over again.
[02:08:48] Which was.
[02:08:50] Hassan Piker is a very rich man from a very rich family.
[02:08:53] He lives in a mansion and drives expensive cars and makes millions of dollars a year for Jeff Bezos.
[02:08:57] So obviously all left is need to listen to him when he says, not to vote for the Democrats.
[02:09:02] I said, yes, between me and Gavin Newsom, I'm the one who's compromised by the super wealthy and they're interests.
[02:09:09] Like, what are you saying?
[02:09:11] This is unironically the strike breaker narratives
[02:09:14] that you hear from reactionaries, where they go,
[02:09:16] oh, these workers have far too much and they're jealous.
[02:09:20] They are lazy.
[02:09:21] They want more.
[02:09:23] Whenever there's like a work stoppage, it takes place.
[02:09:25] There's this weird reactionary tendency
[02:09:27] among the masses to go, why the fuck are they stopping work?
[02:09:30] Are they lazy?
[02:09:31] Not realizing that you're just fucking defending
[02:09:35] the wealthy bosses in that situation
[02:09:37] by cheating on the people that have the same class interest as you.
[02:09:43] Motherfucker, Gavin Newsom is infinitely wealthier than me. What are you talking about?
[02:09:49] And not only is he infinitely wealthier than me, he's also representing the interest
[02:09:54] of the fucking billionaires when he stands in opposition to a billionaire wealth tax.
[02:10:00] What is this conversation?
[02:10:07] he's not even a good candidate, I haven't even been able to address why he's not a good candidate for even the moderates because he has that stink associated with
[02:10:18] Yeah, a song money bags. Why would a songpiker say this? I came Jeffrey's telling them
[02:10:22] guys not to protect not the pro-thrump during his state of the union address according to Axios. He needs to go.
[02:10:30] It's so strange. It's so fucking strange. It's not even just about like whether Gavin would be
[02:10:36] better marginally than like a Republican on trans issues because he probably would be like
[02:10:41] he would be but it's the it's the fact that he's trying to write out trans people from the
[02:10:45] the conversation to begin with when he doesn't have to do that at all.
[02:10:49] And find common ground with them. It's just intellectually dishonest because the son is a record of standing up for trans people.
[02:10:58] And when Gavin Newsom did that with Charlie Kirk, that pain was felt through the trans community far and wide.
[02:11:06] And Peaboo to judge did the same. And Rana manual came on my podcast and did the same.
[02:11:13] And so to say that a song doesn't care about marginalized groups is completely disingenuous
[02:11:21] because what he's saying is, I'm not buying the lie that Gavin Newsom does.
[02:11:27] I'm not buying that anymore because each time I do or each time we do, it incubates
[02:11:33] a more and more fascist culture. Here's the part of the video that they cut out that I think
[02:11:40] provides incredible context for the remainder of our conversation.
[02:11:45] Pop this up, Kylie.
[02:11:46] Who's he,astically?
[02:11:48] Crawl through 10 feet of concrete for all of the marginalized people.
[02:11:51] Do you feel like the Democrats know that?
[02:11:53] And that's why they get away with their NFC viewers.
[02:11:56] That's what I mean.
[02:11:58] So I'm like, okay, I don't even.
[02:12:01] So Hassan clocked me right there.
[02:12:03] And I'll own it because my politics are open-minded.
[02:12:07] They're not fixed.
[02:12:09] I don't play nanny, nanny, boo, boo, politics.
[02:12:12] Oh my god, you said you wouldn't vote.
[02:12:14] You would vote third party.
[02:12:15] Therefore, you must be canceled.
[02:12:16] Number one, Hassan's not a politician.
[02:12:18] Number two, Hassan gets to think whatever he thinks.
[02:12:20] Number three, there is a large growing number
[02:12:23] of Americans, engines, and as millennials
[02:12:27] that have felt completely unseen and left behind
[02:12:31] by the two party political system
[02:12:32] who hate and despise how much they suck up
[02:12:36] to corporations who see the moral duplicity
[02:12:39] in a Hawking Jefferies, a Gavin Newsom,
[02:12:42] a Chuck Schumer, a Cory Boker who take money
[02:12:45] from the Magical Corporate donors
[02:12:47] and also take it from them.
[02:12:49] And so, when Hassan said that to me,
[02:12:51] do you think the Democrats know that
[02:12:53] and take your vote for granted?
[02:12:55] Must it a hundred percent?
[02:12:56] He's right, because they do,
[02:12:59] because I have this red state trauma.
[02:13:02] So I end up thinking, okay, I'm gonna do a harm reduction,
[02:13:06] but the reason why this conversation is so important
[02:13:08] is because we have time right now to have these conversations and to move our politicians
[02:13:16] to a progressive populist platform. We have the opportunity right now to rid ourselves.
[02:13:22] Michael from Pennsylvania had a good take on this. We shouldn't say we are not going to
[02:13:26] over him that he's unelectable. He is. He is. But I'll stick my neck out to say like if I'm
[02:13:33] I'm such a, if I'm representative of such a viable constituency that you need to secure the votes of,
[02:13:39] I'll fucking stick my neck out.
[02:13:42] I don't care.
[02:13:44] I'll stick my fucking neck out.
[02:13:45] I'll talk the way that they want to, I'll talk the language that they want to hear.
[02:13:51] Okay, they can try and use that as a way to negatively polarize against myself and people
[02:13:57] like myself and the community that I represent.
[02:14:00] like, you know, you have to listen to us. Like, it's just, it's ridiculous. We're all in
[02:14:06] this together. If you hate the Republicans, and you want to make this electoral calculation,
[02:14:12] if you think you can win without us, well, Kamala Harris tried that and fucking lost.
[02:14:20] And it's ironic because there are plenty of people who didn't fucking vote third party. You
[02:14:24] know what I mean? Even if all the third party voters turned around and voted for Kamala Harris,
[02:14:28] she still would have lost. She still would have lost. So it turns out there's a much larger
[02:14:35] coalition of voters out there that aren't like super woke or anything like that. But simply
[02:14:42] choose not to because they're like, ah, this doesn't fucking bother me. Who cares? I can't do anything
[02:14:45] about it. Brother's loser can't help herself. I think I broke him. This is, uh, this is my, my regime
[02:14:55] and the game pilled goat stay ck right.
[02:14:59] It's so funny these people say like oh your dad's favorite comedian but like are they funny is she funny at all I've never heard her make a joke.
[02:15:10] You know.
[02:15:20] Like they they constantly run around being like oh that noticing there's been considerably
[02:15:25] let's push back in the chat since Jen started speaking thoughts. Yeah, I mean, look, look, I'm not going to sit here and act as though it's not more valuable nice bathroom to hear from a southern blonde woman saying the exact same things that I'm saying it is okay, it is what it is.
[02:15:49] I'm not going to fucking sit here and posture, okay? I'm not going to sit here and posture
[02:15:53] and be like, man, you guys don't listen to me. Who cares? It is what it is. You know, you work with
[02:15:59] you work with whatever you can. Then we're guys literally stripped out the provision and the one
[02:16:05] big beautiful bill that would abandon Medicaid coverage for gender affirming care. They stripped out
[02:16:09] all the anti-transprovision and their appropriations bill that just passed as Eric Michael García,
[02:16:13] DC bureau chief of the independent MS now news columnist. Then we're guys moved significantly to the
[02:16:18] center on immigration last year on Minneapolis, but one of the few areas they didn't
[02:16:22] pivot was trans people. Just wait. The issue here for the record. The issue here is
[02:16:33] that a lot of these guys will inevitably come to our side. The problem is they're
[02:16:39] not coming to our side fast enough. And I'm glad that anyone I'm glad and I will
[02:16:45] take the help of any single person, like Jen, who says, you know what, I was wrong about
[02:16:50] this stuff.
[02:16:51] I think we should be demanding more.
[02:16:54] See, could people using trans people like me as a football, yeah, I know, I know.
[02:16:57] As a trans person, Democrats, failure to win elections is why these past years have had
[02:17:01] me give up more DIY HR to resources, the people who can't access the Democrats, give
[02:17:06] a shit about us.
[02:17:07] They would win elections.
[02:17:08] Thank you.
[02:17:09] Exactly my point.
[02:17:11] Exactly my point.
[02:17:13] The biggest failure of the Democrats is the pivot to moderation.
[02:17:17] That's my biggest argument against the establishment Democrats because their endless pivot
[02:17:22] to this reasonable center is the reason why Republicans keep fucking winning.
[02:17:28] Just have some backbone, have some decency, have some courage, advocate for the positions
[02:17:32] that you actually stand on.
[02:17:38] You know, her strength that she got, she, she's got as many lives as into her, your strength
[02:17:42] is making doom pill the young men listen to you we just got to be grateful we have
[02:17:45] both exactly we all have our own uh land that we occupy right.
[02:17:53] See a primearies of corporate democrats who lied us and use our votes and take advantage
[02:18:00] of our votes and our compassion for the lives on thresour talk to you about you I know I know
[02:18:07] what they failed to understand is I might look like I'm an island alone
[02:18:12] in the internet discourse.
[02:18:16] But there is a reason why I have this sizable audience
[02:18:20] that I have.
[02:18:21] There's a reason why so many of the other,
[02:18:23] like, left adjacent, otherwise liberal content creators
[02:18:28] like Midas Touch, or Potsay of America,
[02:18:32] also command the interests of massive audiences,
[02:18:35] because they have realized,
[02:18:38] they have realized that they're the momentum
[02:18:41] and the real grassroots support is on the side of people like ourselves, even in the
[02:18:47] base of the Democratic Party's voter base, right? The Democratic Party's base of support
[02:18:54] has also absolutely shifted in this direction. So a lot of these guys are simply yelling
[02:18:59] at an audience that is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. Okay? This is unfortunately
[02:19:08] another cycle of the internet is not real life. But the reason why I'm actively fighting
[02:19:13] back right now is because these sentiments are going to calcify once again. And I want to
[02:19:22] get those guys who are chirping at me who are chirping at like the the supposed left spoiler
[02:19:27] position, all this shit to stop doing this because I don't want I don't want to lose the
[02:19:32] the Republicans again, okay?
[02:19:45] And a lot of these people feel emboldened when they don't get any pushback for these
[02:19:49] fucking stupid takes. So we have to fucking tell them that they're on.
[02:19:54] Just help them address why the Democratic Party approval ratings are so poor right now.
[02:19:59] When it's the opposition party, just ask that question, they have no answer for it.
[02:20:03] I have an answer for it, they don't.
[02:20:06] Every single liberal, content creator that wants to get a fucking check from the DNC that
[02:20:11] is currently punching left actively, ask them why the national Democratic parties
[02:20:16] approval ratings are in the shitter.
[02:20:23] That's it.
[02:20:25] If they like Zoram, I'm Donny. Ask them if they think that a Zoram, I'm Donny, like
[02:20:30] Canada, see, would be bad.
[02:20:35] Lives, vote for Gavin. What's this platform? What do you mean? What's the offering?
[02:20:38] Fuck you, selfish prick. My friends are being killed by ice. How the fuck dare you make
[02:20:41] demands? Oh, sorry, he's Gavin Anti ice. No, he wasn't triple their budget.
[02:20:48] No new fund, increasing no must resign. What do you mean? No new funding? Cut the funding.
[02:20:52] abolish eyes. This is what you should be advocating for. No new funding is a cowardly way to reformize.
[02:20:59] Okay.
[02:21:03] I like that people present that no new funding is like this strong opposition eyes. Get the fuck out of here.
[02:21:12] This is what people mean when they talk about the Rashid effect on US policies in the Democrats and demmedias role in moving the country to the right. Trump triples DHS budget and this becomes the new consensus baseline for both parties with zero movement in the other
[02:21:22] direction. It is objectively unserious that the liberal consensus fain's outrage at Trump's
[02:21:27] DHS abuse but never broches much less demands. They're funding return to at least 20 24
[02:21:31] levels. E. G. reduced by 60, 6%. Bodycams of redundant laws do nothing but change the
[02:21:38] fundamental incentives. Do nothing to change the fundamental incentives.
[02:21:45] Yeah, 90% of the lives in your replies were anti-Zoron all of last year until he won.
[02:21:49] exactly, exactly. They have no shame. They're not vote blue no matter who. They literally
[02:21:55] think that like a centrist democrat must win all the time so that they can feel like their
[02:21:59] priors have been confirmed. That's all this is. Oh, it's so frustrating to have these fucking
[02:22:06] conversations all the time. Our lives groups and use them to their advantage to then curry
[02:22:12] favor with corporations and then go make massive stock exchange trades while in Congress.
[02:22:19] Okay, continue with that clip.
[02:22:21] I'm an entertainer. That stuff, especially this far out from an election,
[02:22:25] but even in the primary season, that's immediately the conversation is like,
[02:22:29] well, whoever is the candidate, you're going to vote for them, right?
[02:22:31] You know what's really indecene about that, too? They never return the favor for left-flank
[02:22:38] I can't ask, no.
[02:22:39] Because no one ever made, hey, about Bernie Sanders potentially becoming the candidate
[02:22:46] and all of the articles that came out about how Trump might be more preferable to Bernie
[02:22:50] Sanders.
[02:22:51] Because they were writing those liberals were writing those articles, talking about
[02:22:55] how the head of Goldman Sachs, who was like, I'm a lifetime democratic party voter.
[02:22:59] I think Donald Trump is better than Bernie Sanders.
[02:23:02] I know.
[02:23:03] So, I just think this is a super important conversation to have.
[02:23:08] And if you have people on the left that are shedding this down,
[02:23:12] they are failing to do a proper autopsy.
[02:23:16] We know that Ken Martin at the DNC spiked the autopsy
[02:23:20] is to why we lost. He spiked it.
[02:23:22] I suspect that in that autopsy is to why Connell Laws
[02:23:26] is because the Democrats refused to listen to voices like this.
[02:23:32] And I am willing to go into these conversations with the sun and get out.
[02:23:37] Do you think the Democrats know that you're always going to do that and take advantage of your vote?
[02:23:42] Yes, I do. I do think that any time you have a political party or political movement
[02:23:49] that is shutting down this type of conversation when we lost two elections to a complete
[02:23:56] dip shit and incompetent con man. And we can't have the conversation with the progressive
[02:24:02] flank of our party that Bernie Sanders created a movement. And it continues to permeate
[02:24:10] through the Democratic Party. Yeah, it was MSNBC host who famously said if Bernie Sanders
[02:24:17] one that they would do mass executions on an essential part.
[02:24:26] So much so that you see progressives winning right now, Zoran Monk.
[02:24:32] Kivon, who worked for Hillary 2016, has knocked out the left since posted after he voted
[02:24:38] that he ranked Cuomo number one in my role primary and that left his didn't actually
[02:24:41] know what was coming and then deleted it after Zoran won.
[02:24:45] earlier voted in New York City, Andrew Cuomo, Adrian Adams, Brad Lander, Whitney,
[02:24:49] Tilsen, Zelner, Murray, roast me if you want, but just because people are afraid
[02:24:53] to tweet how they vote, it doesn't mean that you didn't vote that way too. Don't
[02:24:56] be too surprised about the outcome. Yeah. Can we move on for these left-wing
[02:25:02] creators that have built a business just on hating Democrats? They have to
[02:25:04] help nothing, they help nobody but themselves. That's it. These guys are
[02:25:09] are fucking not only irrelevant, they're unpopular.
[02:25:17] One third, wow, the next day after what you said is a lot more important.
[02:25:20] I know, we're going to talk about this.
[02:25:22] We're going to talk about this in a second.
[02:25:23] I already posted about this all my on my Twitter as well.
[02:25:26] Once this part of the segment is over.
[02:25:29] Done. And when you look at all of the issues that's or on one on,
[02:25:34] line item by line item and you take them out of being progressive,
[02:25:38] conservative Democrat Republican, they're all super popular policies.
[02:25:44] So this democratic establishment that Hassan is speaking out so much against doesn't want,
[02:25:50] they don't want people to know that.
[02:25:53] So I have a really hard time with the liberals online right now trying to shut this conversation
[02:25:59] down and deny Hassan, his opinion, or brow beat Hassan from here to Tim back to, because
[02:26:08] he is pointing out a conversation that we need to have.
[02:26:12] And I think the reason common a loss because nobody wanted to get off their couch that
[02:26:18] was super progressive because they feel like both parties are the same because they're
[02:26:24] not lazy corporate news voters that just take what takes what MSNBC says and takes what
[02:26:29] CNS says and then goes out and votes.
[02:26:32] They have dug deep or these are very high information voters that go in a way to minute.
[02:26:38] A pack spent $200 something million dollars to get Trump elected.
[02:26:41] It's clear Benjamin Netanyahu once in the like did.
[02:26:44] Kamala is taking money from the same pack.
[02:26:49] Really isn't talking about this genocide in the blank check
[02:26:52] to Israel.
[02:26:54] I see this as a continuation as more.
[02:26:56] The same was with it being slightly rebranded.
[02:26:59] And I just think it's very maga-esque to shut down a conversation
[02:27:04] like that with a son and me and to take a side on that.
[02:27:07] And it's not understand that blue and on is it's blue and on it's blue maga.
[02:27:14] So on and I were having a super important conversation that is in the should be front and center of every democratic conversation right now.
[02:27:24] Yeah, this too. This is exactly right.
[02:27:26] Normandy, then let's say where more way more in common with the core percentage is we maintain their power of maintenance.
[02:27:30] Believe the opposite is true.
[02:27:31] this person posted the classic like cringe-man was
[02:27:35] lower per oh have you considered the economic anxiety
[02:27:36] those poor Trump voters Nicole suburban mom's
[02:27:38] successful corporate lawyer every Republican is in
[02:27:40] a front to God. So which I said even
[02:27:42] attendance at a no kings rally will instantly
[02:27:45] help you cringe Twitter liberals realize that
[02:27:46] the suburban mom and the malice both this
[02:27:48] Pfizer-Rovoligan party more than the
[02:27:49] consulted moderation demanding Democratic party
[02:27:51] blisters do. I'm out there I see it I see
[02:27:55] the anger I see the resentment that's why
[02:27:56] it's not confusing to me when I see the
[02:27:58] Democratic party's unpopularity because they
[02:28:00] lost their own fucking base. It's that simple. Okay. They have lost their own base of support.
[02:28:10] Sean Vid says, I promise right now, you're away from an election to vote for an
[02:28:13] office ship back big it because he isn't the other guy. Shut the fuck up. You're making
[02:28:16] things worse. Your vote is wait outside of election day. Regardless of how you end up voting
[02:28:20] until then, you can bargain with it. The lesser evils are watching you. If you promise,
[02:28:24] your vote for nothing, you'll get nothing. Say you won't vote for a bad candidate. Say you'll only
[02:28:29] vote for policies you like that's it. That's why I don't mind sticking my neck out and saying I'm not voting for Gavin Newsom. Unless Gavin Newsom becomes this fucking radical
[02:28:40] Advocate for Medicare for all of a sudden and can actually convince people like myself
[02:28:47] Is that simple
[02:28:52] Brad people on threads and Twitter tell me blue maga is a racist dog whistle. I don't understand how people eat the boost so easily
[02:28:57] just you don't need to have a conversation with those people. Let's be real whenever people hit the identity politics button over and over again to be like, oh
[02:29:05] You sir are actually a racist you hate black people. You hate brown people. You hate ice
[02:29:11] You hate trans you I mean you hate. I sorry. You love ice. You hate trans people just you don't really have to have a conversation with them
[02:29:17] you can just be like did this policy work in 2016
[02:29:22] Did this poll did this work in 2016?
[02:29:24] vaccine, fuck you, Hassan, you dumb moron. Nothing, by the way, nothing makes
[02:29:33] centers, liberals more mad than seeing someone like myself succeed in this media ecosystem.
[02:29:44] Nothing. I mean, they literally have developed so much hatred for everything that I represent
[02:29:52] as a spokesperson for a very real constituency.
[02:29:57] Nothing pisses them off more than seeing their favorite Democrats come and talk to me.
[02:30:01] Nothing pisses them off more than when people that I love, that people whose policies
[02:30:06] that I ride for, end up winning.
[02:30:09] And then they have to sit there and act like they were there all along.
[02:30:12] They fucking have so much anger.
[02:30:14] It's awesome.
[02:30:16] It's fucking awesome.
[02:30:17] They are praying on my fucking downfall every damn day of the week.
[02:30:22] very important. Me when it's ice in the USA versus me when it's USA on ice. Are you
[02:30:33] turning into Charlie Kirkton Blau? Is that what you're saying?
[02:30:37] We had end in two mid-terms.
[02:30:49] How do we build a majority party that services the most people without throwing any groups
[02:30:57] under the bus and doesn't prioritize servicing corporations and that's what he's saying?
[02:31:05] I'm okay with us being at the end of the day that Hassan might.
[02:31:10] Yeah, it's all people going, if Hassan criticized, we're all against
[02:31:12] have as much as he criticized them.
[02:31:14] See, it would actually be worth listening to.
[02:31:16] That's so funny.
[02:31:17] Just say, you don't actually listen to anything that I'm saying.
[02:31:21] Okay.
[02:31:22] Just say that you have never actually tuned into a fucking broadcast because if you did,
[02:31:27] you would know that I rail against the Republicans all the fucking time and the only
[02:31:32] only reason why I rarely against the Democrats is because of their closeness to the
[02:31:35] Republicans.
[02:31:36] For some hypothetical, mystical, moderate voter that doesn't actually fucking exist.
[02:31:42] That's the point.
[02:31:45] They have no answer for why.
[02:31:48] They have no answer for what Bernie Sanders is far more popular than Kamala Harris.
[02:31:52] They have no answer for why Zoran Mungani is one of the most nationally popular politicians
[02:32:00] in the country.
[02:32:01] spite of all of the Republican attacks that he receives.
[02:32:09] The far left won't win the dams in the election.
[02:32:13] They're too radical.
[02:32:14] The far left wants free healthcare for everyone.
[02:32:16] Higher tax for the top 1% will fund its schools and free colleges.
[02:32:19] LGBTQ plus people to be seen as human, immigrants to be seen as human, no more holocaust.
[02:32:27] guys are so silly. Anyway, yeah, I'm going to talk about this in a second. I'm going
[02:32:33] to talk about this analysis in a second. Soy Pills says yes, because trans people, Latinos,
[02:32:39] and every other marginalized group is going to be worse off of Republican wins. These
[02:32:41] people can only imagine a world where marginalized people are in a perpetual state of
[02:32:44] torment, saddle between both parties, bad and worse. We need to have a very real conversation
[02:32:49] that the continual offering of this false choice is in and of itself bigoted. We are two years
[02:32:54] out and you are not even able to imagine a good candidate for the Democratic Party perfectly
[02:32:58] demonstrates why normal working class Mars does people feel so disenfranchised exactly
[02:33:02] and then they turn around and focus a why why are these people not voting for us then
[02:33:08] they start trying to fucking yell about black man black man or not voting for the Democrats
[02:33:11] what the fuck's going on it's like first of all that's a ridiculous position to have
[02:33:16] because black voters are so reliable in terms of voting for the Democratic party even
[02:33:21] if you were to think that the Democratic party is like voting for the Democrats the
[02:33:24] the most righteous moment of civil rights activism that you can engage in, which I don't believe, right?
[02:33:44] The person that sits on the couch and I might be the person that goes and votes for the corporate dim.
[02:33:51] And I'm still evolving on that, and I have to keep it open mind about it.
[02:33:55] But more than anything has shown in our online personalities, we are not politicians.
[02:34:00] And we both get to have our opinions about this, and we get to succinctly disagree or push each other and evolve.
[02:34:08] But when I see liberals or people in the Democratic Party trying to completely shut him down and shut down this conversation,
[02:34:15] it feels very cultist to me.
[02:34:17] It feels the opposite of what a progressive movement, a resistance, a resistant movement to fascism should be.
[02:34:26] And then Kylie put up the tweet and the graph about where the Democrats are right now.
[02:34:32] Okay, his son says, liberal Twitter has erupted demanding party loyalty, hitting lesser evilism in harm reduction lines two years out from the presidential election.
[02:34:43] But they refuse to reckon with this historic unpopularity for the DIMS as Trump is deeply unpopular.
[02:34:52] Hold your electance accountable, please.
[02:34:55] So here we have the Democratic Party, the favorability is 33% historic, historic lows.
[02:35:02] And what Hassan is saying is, why do I, as a voter?
[02:35:06] Why do this large voting grid?
[02:35:08] Why do we have to concede?
[02:35:10] Why aren't the politicians conceding that corporations are not in
[02:35:13] the best interest of the people.
[02:35:15] And the people in the Democratic Party
[02:35:17] that are trying to shut this down,
[02:35:19] all you're doing is giving his platform more power
[02:35:22] because when I see the Democratic establishment
[02:35:25] behave this way in a cult-like way
[02:35:28] to say that we can't have an honest conversation about this,
[02:35:31] it makes me really lean into what Hassan is saying
[02:35:35] and dive into it more and more because oftentimes,
[02:35:38] Progressives are just the right.
[02:35:40] They're just right way too early.
[02:35:43] And so if you think about Bernie Sanders was in 2016,
[02:35:46] he was right.
[02:35:46] His message is aged far better.
[02:35:49] I didn't buy it at the time.
[02:35:50] I thought, oh, Bernie's crazy,
[02:35:51] nobody's gonna, he can't win an election.
[02:35:54] The fact of the matter is he probably would have beaten Trump
[02:35:57] and where would we be now if we would stop listening
[02:36:03] to corporate dims and the personalities that prop up this,
[02:36:08] We have to be a fixed party that person.
[02:36:11] I see you get dumb hate all the time, but I never expected to be you about promoting democracy.
[02:36:16] No, that's like, that is at the heart of this issue, a lot of the blue and on voters,
[02:36:22] the blue mega voters demand party loyalty and don't want accountability and don't want
[02:36:29] to extract concessions from their elected representatives, which is inherently undemocratic.
[02:36:35] they take advantage of the two-party system to say you got a vote for us my
[02:36:40] wear the fucking highway you got a vote for these guys instead even if I
[02:36:44] don't like them look at me look at them more like them I'm holding my
[02:36:47] nose and voting for the shit candidate okay well other people don't make
[02:36:52] that decision and don't go out and fucking vote that's why the Democrats keep
[02:36:55] losing and that's why the Republicans keep fucking winning I'm tired of it I
[02:37:04] I don't want the Republicans the win.
[02:37:08] I think it's fucking ridiculous that they keep winning.
[02:37:11] I know why they keep winning.
[02:37:12] It's because Democrats don't know fucking backbone.
[02:37:15] Have no investment in defending anything at all.
[02:37:19] They can see it on everything for no fucking reason.
[02:37:22] And then they try to, they spend more time trying to sell you why they actually
[02:37:26] have to do these concessions.
[02:37:29] Rather than advocate for the opposition.
[02:37:32] deserves this two-party system and we cannot push our elected officials to service the
[02:37:39] American people more. So I just wanted to respond to all of this and say that me as a voter
[02:37:48] and as an online commentator, I'm going to continue to have these conversations and the
[02:37:53] more of the Democratic Party tells people to shut up the more I realize how rigged the whole thing
[02:37:59] is and then I end up going further and further left. Every democratic politician should be
[02:38:05] shutting down corporate money. Every democratic politician should be going on shows like mine
[02:38:10] and especially shows like Assans. Because that's where the people didn't show up because they
[02:38:18] are tired of being lied to by Democrats. Hell yeah. That's what primary is so important when you
[02:38:27] need to weed out the corporate dams. It blows on a corporate money band that that's
[02:38:30] why can't it vetting and research and primaries is so important. I re-resist this
[02:38:33] is part of your just another call to under the blue banner. I have felt for years
[02:38:36] that establishment dams have just been bought as the GOP and deny that is to have
[02:38:40] your head in the sand as a madgat. I totally agree with the son that we need to
[02:38:45] FDR representative at this moment in time who's willing to go to the extra mile to
[02:38:48] include everyone in their policies. In addition, I want America to walk the walk
[02:38:51] when it comes to the equality.
[02:38:53] Look at that.
[02:38:56] People don't have any answer for this.
[02:38:58] They think, oh, everybody hates.
[02:39:01] They think, oh, no, everybody just hates the Republicans.
[02:39:07] And they're going to be fine with eating whatever,
[02:39:11] eating whatever corporate backed establishment
[02:39:14] Democrats slopped that we fucking present.
[02:39:16] That's not going to happen.
[02:39:17] That hasn't happened.
[02:39:19] And even when it does sometimes happen with Joe Biden for example, when everybody myself included plugged their nose and fucking voted because we wanted to get Trump out of office.
[02:39:29] Look where that brought us. It brought us to Trump too. It brought us to concentration camps. It brought us to ICE.
[02:39:34] It's utterly ridiculous.
[02:39:45] We cannot do return to normal C politics, okay?
[02:39:50] Yeah, according to what it lives,
[02:39:52] a King Jeffries does the same position as you exactly.
[02:39:54] No, but when a King Jeffries says that he says it with a raise,
[02:40:03] So I understand why liberals are like enamored with a Kim Jeffree saying like you shouldn't
[02:40:08] protest against Donald Trump.
[02:40:13] Okay.
[02:40:15] There was another thing that I wanted to mention here obviously which is.
[02:40:20] This part of the conversation.
[02:40:24] Harry Emden.
[02:40:26] And in all time, high, 58% of voters say the dem parties to liberal this comes as one in three
[02:40:30] Democrats think of themselves as Democratic Socialists.
[02:40:34] And the percentage of them who say they're very liberal, his quadruples in his 1999.
[02:40:38] New Jersey 11 New York City mayor and Bernie Sanders are no aberration.
[02:40:41] From that special election, that Democratic primary, can you have a criticism of this?
[02:40:44] And I'll talk about what this means for the future of politics in this country.
[02:40:48] But I do have a criticism of this that I have consistently talked about, holy, totally.
[02:40:52] Holy, totally.
[02:40:53] speak to a larger point within the Democratic Party.
[02:40:57] And that is that the far left is significantly more powerful
[02:41:01] than they once were.
[02:41:01] And this sort of gives the game away here.
[02:41:03] Democrats who identify is very liberal or conservative.
[02:41:06] You know, there used to be a lot of conservative Democrats, right?
[02:41:08] Back in 1999, 26% of Democrats self-identified as conservatives.
[02:41:13] Just 5% said that they were very liberal.
[02:41:15] It was a smidgenous smidgenous smidgenous smidgen.
[02:41:17] Now that far left has gained considerably in power.
[02:41:21] Look at this.
[02:41:21] Now we're talking about a fifth of Democrats 21% say they're very
[02:41:25] liable.
[02:41:26] That conservative part of the Democratic Party.
[02:41:28] Adios Amigos combined just 8% and when you combine the 21% or
[02:41:32] a very liable with those who say that they're somewhat liable, we're
[02:41:35] talking about three and five Democrats who identify as either
[02:41:39] somewhat liable or very liable with the very liables, but much larger
[02:41:43] portion of the party, the far left, which is to just be a
[02:41:46] smidgen within the Democratic Party, has gained considerable
[02:41:49] powers and so on New Jersey's 11th district.
[02:41:51] And what about democratic socialists, like the likes of Bernie Sanders, and what is
[02:41:57] Zorme and Donnie here in New York City, where is that line up?
[02:42:00] OK, so on a separate question where you essentially see an end as this last year, which
[02:42:05] was, OK, Democrats who think of themselves as Democratic Socialists among all Democrats, including
[02:42:10] those independence who lean towards the Democratic Party, look at this, we're talking
[02:42:14] about a third of all Democrats who identify as Democratic Socialists.
[02:42:19] Many Sanders and Zoroam and Donnie are not alone.
[02:42:21] They are a considerable part of the Democratic-based standpoint.
[02:42:25] And more than that, if you look at Democrats under the age of 35, they are nearly
[02:42:29] half nearly half of the Democratic Party.
[02:42:32] Look at this 42 percent of Democrats think of themselves as Democratic Socialists under the
[02:42:37] age of 35, just like Zoroam and Donnie, that what happened in New York City is not some
[02:42:43] aberration, right?
[02:42:44] It is not something that just happened in New York City is something that we are seeing
[02:42:48] grow within the Democratic Party at this particular point when we're talking about 42 percent
[02:42:52] of Democrats under the age of 35 identifying the Democrats' socials and a third of all Democrats,
[02:42:57] my goodness gracious. So if the ideology of the Democratic Party is shifting or changing.
[02:43:03] 20 percent, very liberal, 33 percent, Dem Socialist, American polling is so dumb. Yes,
[02:43:10] it is very dumb. And that is because in the United States of America,
[02:43:15] liberalism is seen as the left flank position, whereas in the rest of the world, even
[02:43:22] including in fucking Canada, for example, and certainly in Europe and all the other OECD nations,
[02:43:29] liberalism is not actually a leftist ideology. The U.S. is the only country where the entire
[02:43:34] left base is bracketed under liberalism, a right wing slash center, right ideology,
[02:43:38] and virtually every other OECD nation, given the rise of socialism, it would be wise to start
[02:43:43] using the better terminology. And that is by design for the record. Before people say,
[02:43:55] well, in Canada, that's not the case. Yes, it is. And DP is the actual left position party.
[02:44:01] And there's certainly in the parliamentary structure further left positions as well.
[02:44:08] It's insane and leads that Carl Bier says it's insane and leads to hilarious internal
[02:44:11] logic problems in the polls like they'll ask are you a socialist or a liberal, but then
[02:44:14] cross-tabs will break the answers down in the liberal Indian conservative. So you'll have
[02:44:18] tons of I'm not a liberal and answers under liberal. I don't, and for the record, I'm not saying
[02:44:25] that like if this, if this change were to take place that like most people would self-identify
[02:44:33] socialist and a lot would not self-identify as liberals or anything like that. I still think
[02:44:38] Thank my theory is that given the lack of political education on this, given the lack of ideological
[02:44:47] delineation on this, there are still plenty of people who would be sympathetic to socialism
[02:44:51] or socialist policy making that still self-identify as liberals.
[02:44:55] It would take years and years for people to finally come to that conclusion that maybe
[02:44:59] they're not actually fucking liberals after all.
[02:45:02] But I'm still willing to segment it appropriately because it's important to do that.
[02:45:08] It's important to fucking bracket these different ideological tendencies because they are
[02:45:13] different from one another.
[02:45:16] And yes, the reality of the matter is there is a far bigger ideological difference between liberal
[02:45:22] ism and socialism, then there is between fascism and Republicans, Republicans who are
[02:45:27] also technically liberals, right?
[02:45:31] people in America don't understand this though. But I would say that even the fact that we're
[02:45:36] having this conversation and many people understand what I'm saying when we're having this
[02:45:40] conversation is a good thing. It means that the political evolution and the force of
[02:45:47] education of a lot of people is here. Okay?
[02:46:01] The time is now. That's why I get very frustrated whenever people, whenever people come to me,
[02:46:08] whenever people write articles about me, like liberal mainstream press, whenever they write articles about me,
[02:46:14] I mean, they'll be like very liberal Hassan.
[02:46:20] This is the only thing that Hassan and Iglesi is agree on.
[02:46:29] It's so unfortunate that the United States stuck with this vocabular
[02:46:31] where socialism very liberal roughly means the same thing,
[02:46:33] which we would all rediscover in a terminology where liberalism
[02:46:35] is distinct meaning in his own sub-barials,
[02:46:37] ride-holes, and socialism is a different thing. I agree.
[02:46:39] This use of liberal to describe more left wing Democrats getting increasingly unhuffled
[02:46:45] because actual left wing Democrats self-described as progressive or even socialist.
[02:46:48] So no one actually thinks more liberal describes them.
[02:46:51] Asana is mostly just the tip because it's great strategic efforts of reminding everyone
[02:46:56] that both sides are best of both third-party if somehow not led to this label getting more
[02:46:59] traction.
[02:47:00] Yeah, that's what it is guy who blocked me and probably has a normal opinion about what
[02:47:04] I fucking represent.
[02:47:06] A song calling liberalism or right-wings less center right ideologies, absolutely delusional, though?
[02:47:11] It's not.
[02:47:13] It is a right-wing center right ideology in every other fucking country, because it's not an ideology that revolves around social policies.
[02:47:23] It's an ideology that revolves around the economy, okay?
[02:47:27] Economic policies.
[02:47:28] That's the reason why it's a center right ideology.
[02:47:31] That's what it is.
[02:47:33] It's just factually accurate.
[02:47:34] These guys would rather fucking go, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
[02:47:37] I can hear you.
[02:47:41] Liberalism historically in political theory and in contemporary society
[02:47:45] certainly is considered a right wing or center, right economic ideology.
[02:47:51] Okay?
[02:47:52] That's it.
[02:47:53] It's about freeing the markets.
[02:47:59] It's so fucking stupid.
[02:48:00] hate having a conversation with dumb American
[02:48:03] chuds who fancy themselves to be much more
[02:48:07] intelligent than the mag of Republicans
[02:48:10] that they lowered over and yet they have the
[02:48:13] political education of those same fucking
[02:48:15] chuds. They literally do and they're going
[02:48:18] la la la I can't fucking hear you. Yes, the
[02:48:24] Democratic Party is technically a big tent
[02:48:27] party for this reason because in America you just have liberals and
[02:48:31] Republicans. They do that's how they see it.
[02:48:37] That's why liberal Democrats in the U.K. are seen as a center right
[02:48:40] party.
[02:48:45] Yeah, you should do a awesome oxygen gested. Exactly.
[02:48:47] A son is actually start saying he'd vote for JD man. So these
[02:48:50] branded morons decide they need to win his vote as a conservative.
[02:48:53] the
[02:48:56] year I don't want to vote for Gavin Newson because he's too liberal I want a real
[02:49:00] conservative
[02:49:01] uh... if you want to win my vote I'm a mega conservative you have to win my
[02:49:05] vote now all of a sudden you have the pay attention to me
[02:49:08] and
[02:49:17] being Center to Center right is literally taught in any world studies class I've ever
[02:49:22] taken with there's politics, sociology, or history I learned that in my World Government
[02:49:25] class when I was 15.
[02:49:31] What ideology is Center left? Social Democracy.
[02:49:36] And labor capitalism. Labor parties, social democratic parties, self-described social
[02:49:43] Democratic parties. That is a central left ideology, Communists, Socialists, and Democratic
[02:49:50] Socialists to varying degrees are seen as the actual left party. That's just the reality.
[02:49:57] Trade unionism, communism, and socialism is the actual left position, anti-capitalism,
[02:50:04] normally begins as the starting point of the left position. Obviously as capitalism is
[02:50:15] calcified in Western liberal democracies, you have to look at every case individually,
[02:50:23] but that is the reality.
[02:50:34] the
[02:50:41] well we do in policy side international relations one-on-one-out yes I have to
[02:50:54] some one not me my city and response of moderates are bigger demographic self-described moderates in us in
[02:50:59] in a political education environment, like the one that I just described where people don't
[02:51:05] even know anything about what their real true ideological positions are, where they just
[02:51:10] like, if they are even invested in political participation at all, where they bracket themselves
[02:51:16] as like either Democrat or Republican is idiotic. That's the reason why all of these fucking
[02:51:22] polls are so inconsistent. Harry Endon, talking right here, shows that inconsistency.
[02:51:29] How is this hard to comprehend? He's literally saying that, you know, Democrats are self-identifying as like Democratic Socialists.
[02:51:43] The self-described moderates, if you ever talk to them and ask, like, would you like free healthcare? You already pay a shit ton in premiums.
[02:51:53] you like a system where you pay less in taxes overall and then get free health care
[02:51:58] unconditionally without having to call up, you know, your insurance provider would say
[02:52:04] fuck yes, now is that a moderate position?
[02:52:08] It reads as a moderate position on the polls, a guy who would say they're a moderate
[02:52:12] would say yes to that, how do you deal with that?
[02:52:17] If you ask a a centrist Democrat, they'll say that is the most radical position of all
[02:52:21] time.
[02:52:29] Right?
[02:52:32] Centers think tankoids want you to believe people thought Harris was too liberal because
[02:52:35] people love private health insurance and the military and social complex and what they likely
[02:52:39] mean is black lady from California's privacy misleading exactly.
[02:52:43] This is a meaningless and inscrutable poll without defining what two liberal means.
[02:52:46] It can mean two right-wing, two left-wing, two woke, social issues, etc.
[02:52:50] All this is for all this is working to do as manufacturers have to be even more conservative.
[02:52:56] That's exactly what it is.
[02:52:59] The part of the disincangenda is not the liberal party because the Libs are center right.
[02:53:05] Every day in Maurice Triholt visits his wife at Golden Door Geriatric Center, his only
[02:53:12] previous indication the personal care home might close, some bags were empty.
[02:53:17] When I first was approached, the book coming here, it was a matter of waiting for months.
[02:53:27] I know I go over here, and I actually very conceptual, to not up.
[02:53:32] Now he knows that last year, the owners informed the province they would close.
[02:53:36] That's not always true, dude. What?
[02:53:41] Libbers and Canada were sent or left under Trudeau. I know, man. I know. I know.
[02:53:45] depending on that's why I said it's situational because capitalism is so
[02:53:49] pervasive and so dogmatic and has become the the inscrutable
[02:53:55] hegemony it is so firmly the monoculture that it that's why I said it's
[02:54:01] case by case okay it shifts sometimes the liberal Democrats might come across
[02:54:10] like the center left party depending on how conservative the government
[02:54:14] actually is. You may fill up the Franco again with this topic.
[02:54:18] ISIS finally getting out of Minnesota. ISIS is true. ISIS is getting
[02:54:23] out of Minnesota.
[02:54:31] Point difference. But also when it comes to real potential
[02:54:34] matchups for 2028 we should talk about this backlash and
[02:54:36] controversy because we're going to see this play out.
[02:54:39] One of the most recent ways it has is you have tons of
[02:54:41] people slamming political commentator and son piker for how he might be voted because on a
[02:54:45] recent appearance on Jennifer Welch's I've had it podcast she brought up some hypothetical
[02:54:48] presidential tickets. Let's say that Gavin News soon becomes the nominee. Yeah, we make it in terms
[02:54:55] devastating. Do you vote for him? Over J.D. Vance. I don't know. I have to vote for Gavin News.
[02:55:02] Me too. I wouldn't blame what about you. I'd probably vote for party. Wood? Oh yeah. I mean at that point
[02:55:09] It doesn't even matter like because my policy on this is is the same as like my refusal to endorse
[02:55:16] Kamala Harris
[02:55:17] Um, the reason why I did not endorse Kamala Harris was because she did things that were not only
[02:55:24] unproductive but also unconscionable and that it prompted a ton of outrage and a lot of are you fucking
[02:55:29] kidneys with a lot of people think that his son shouldn't be encouraging third party posts to his
[02:55:33] Mass of following and some saying things like insanely irresponsible take given the harm the
[02:55:37] this administration has unleashed just one year in.
[02:55:39] As well as can we move on from these left-wing creators, you know, Hillary Clinton's
[02:55:44] staffer wants again that openly said he didn't vote for Zorah Mamdanning, have built
[02:55:49] a business on just hating Democrats.
[02:55:50] It helps nobody but themselves.
[02:55:52] He also attempts people accusing his son of being a grifter, arguing at equal once Republicans
[02:55:55] in office because he gets to cosplay a revolutionary, which raises his profile and makes
[02:55:59] him more money.
[02:56:00] And then separately from takes on his son, you had some pushing back on criticisms of
[02:56:03] Gavin Newsome.
[02:56:04] I live in California, my gay friends and basic rights, my girlfriend can access reproductive care.
[02:56:08] And we raise the most.
[02:56:09] Of course, Philip is going to cook me on this because he is, you know, when when the
[02:56:13] cards fall, he will be a, you know, he will be a professional misunderstanding or as well.
[02:56:19] Once again, Philip, I mean, we talk all the time privately.
[02:56:23] I like Philip the Franco.
[02:56:24] I'd love to have this conversation with you.
[02:56:26] I think it would be a productive conversation, wage for service workers, spare me the disingenuous
[02:56:32] bullshit.
[02:56:33] He's defended himself in a series of posts saying, do you want free healthcare?
[02:56:36] Do you want free college?
[02:56:38] Do you want to stop Israel?
[02:56:39] I'll vote for anyone who sincerely believes in making that happen.
[02:56:42] That I never said, JD Vance is better than Newsom.
[02:56:44] If you want to believe, I said that because you can't comprehend a world where democracy implies
[02:56:48] asking for concessions from your elected representatives before doing loyalty pledges to them,
[02:56:51] like a happy surf.
[02:56:52] The sun then saying, shit, lips, you don't care about losing to Trump.
[02:56:55] Now, want you to obey in advance to their hypothetical establishment candidate,
[02:56:58] while there isn't even a guarantee there will be an election to years from now.
[02:57:01] using marginalized people as a cudgel as Gavin through trans people under the bus.
[02:57:05] And when they had his supporters, you also had a number of people pushing back at that response.
[02:57:08] Same thing, like, no one is asking anyone to obey your fans, so please come
[02:57:11] like, John Fetterman staffer who only recently left John Fetterman down off the cross.
[02:57:17] Your fellow panelists recognize the material difference for marginalized communities
[02:57:21] between a hypothetical Democrat and Republican administration.
[02:57:23] You repeatedly use your large audience to flatten the difference in its abject nonsense.
[02:57:27] Some others also are taking issue with how we frame nuisance and trans rights.
[02:57:30] One person saying, actual trans person here,
[02:57:32] got a news that I made a comment about trans athletes
[02:57:35] that I don't agree with, but California is still one of the best places
[02:57:37] to be trans in the country.
[02:57:38] See the difference?
[02:57:39] You don't care about what happens to us
[02:57:41] to stop acting like you speak for us.
[02:57:42] Now, with all this, you actually had dinner for Welch,
[02:57:44] ending up posting a video on his defense claiming.
[02:57:46] What is so nice saying is we need to build a party
[02:57:49] that has an FDR style impact, that really, really impacts the lives
[02:57:55] of people, instead of this slow-moving, incremental change
[02:57:59] that the current Democratic Party always proposes.
[02:58:02] Number one, Hassan's not a politician.
[02:58:04] Number two, Hassan gets to think whatever he thinks.
[02:58:06] Number three, there is a large growing number
[02:58:09] of Americans in Gen Z and as millennials
[02:58:12] that have felt completely unseen and left behind
[02:58:16] by the two party political system who hate and despise.
[02:58:21] How much they suck up to corporations?
[02:58:23] We have time right now to have these conversations
[02:58:25] into move our politicians to a progressive populist platform.
[02:58:31] We want you to go into a far as to say one of the reasons the Democrats lose is because
[02:58:35] they do not listen to voices like a songpiker.
[02:58:37] So it's also worth noting that during the podcast, a song did preempt any potential backlash
[02:58:40] claiming that Democrats might lose solely because of him.
[02:58:43] I am incapable.
[02:58:45] There is no singular force in this country that is capable of making your breaking
[02:58:49] and if that was real, then it is the most idiotic thing not to listen to my demands,
[02:58:56] but everybody knows that that's not real, right?
[02:58:58] You know, with all that said, I would really love to know your thoughts here.
[02:59:00] Obviously with any election, whether you local or national, I think you should weigh the difference
[02:59:04] between the two people.
[02:59:05] I think that at these in job of showing both sides, I love a ring choice system that brings
[02:59:09] in more voices, different voices, but that's a whole other video.
[02:59:12] Then I'm going to vote for the best or least worst of the two top options.
[02:59:16] That's why I voted for Kamala Harris.
[02:59:17] Does she represent everything I want in the country?
[02:59:20] Now, to think or argue that a government and a country led by her versus Donald Trump
[02:59:24] would be the exact same thing, with the exact same things happening?
[02:59:28] No, I hope most of us can agree when we look at this last year that this seems to be the
[02:59:33] way worse option.
[02:59:34] I know this part is separate from the clips that we talked about on today's show, but it
[02:59:38] is an argument that I've seen just playing out in public.
[02:59:40] But I also think we need to hash out these disagreements very early on.
[02:59:43] a single business disagreements all the messiness in the primaries and then when it's one versus one can the best indoor least worst option and it's it's more important than ever if you are in a battleground state though it really
[02:59:54] the
[03:00:00] I'm not saying that comolo Harris would be identical to Donald Trump and there are certain areas where the the Democrats would definitely be identical to Trump and so you know
[03:00:17] Is real being one of them at least they don't shy away from communicating that they would be the same right?
[03:00:23] Right? That's what Kamala Harris did.
[03:00:25] But once again, once again, someone made a comment that Gavin will come on the show
[03:00:35] if you said you were a conservative law exactly.
[03:00:38] Yeah, that's my real grift is I'm positioning myself as anti-gavin Newsom and a conservative
[03:00:43] mega guy so that Gavin Newsom comes on the show so I can grill them on some of his
[03:00:47] fucking positions.
[03:00:50] But I do think that we should be having these conversations.
[03:00:52] I do think that we should be having these conversations, especially now, far away from
[03:00:59] the actual election.
[03:01:02] Okay?
[03:01:03] We should be having these conversations far away from the actual election so that we can
[03:01:07] niche this shit in the fucking butt.
[03:01:12] You understand?
[03:01:15] So when people curb it me to, you know, get clicks or whatever the fuck, you can keep
[03:01:20] doing that if you want to do that.
[03:01:23] But I do think that I should have a conversation with like the minus touch guys, pod
[03:01:28] Johns, I'll go on neutral territory like that to talk to some of these fucking centrist
[03:01:34] liberals, like I'll fucking, I'll do it out with Tray Easton, you know, even though
[03:01:39] He's a relevant figure overall.
[03:01:45] And God he closed the FC orbiter vid.
[03:01:47] That guy's another like pedophilia sex cult member.
[03:01:51] Is that what it is?
[03:01:55] You know how I say.
[03:01:58] You know how I say that there is like you need to be
[03:02:00] definable by your opinions, by your policies, by what you put
[03:02:05] out there for the Democrats in general.
[03:02:08] I feel like for Destiny, or also known as Sex Pestini, he is definable by having a son who is a neonazi, constantly aligning with white nationalist white supremacist neonazi's, being able to say the end word and all these other slurs of the white guy, and also on top of that, I guess, being super pro is real, and procuring child sexual abuse material.
[03:02:33] those are those are is like if there was a zauron style situation here to define sex
[03:02:38] past in the as it would be that also here it is
[03:02:43] pisco saying so you would vote for Trump over a song correct i would vote for the
[03:02:46] guy who supported January 6 versus the guy who supported October 7 yes
[03:03:03] guy who is positioned himself as being anti-Trump of all else turns around and says
[03:03:09] actually Trump is better than Hassan Piker if you don't have if you can't call
[03:03:14] that Hassan derangedment syndrome, not sure what you can call that, okay?
[03:03:17] By given given the opportunity, crazy that people that leave the orbiter are able to
[03:03:29] understand your position is so far out from a presidential election I'm not sure, yeah,
[03:03:32] this person used to be a this and the orbiter now hates destiny.
[03:03:35] So far off from a presidential election, I'm not sure how consequential this is outside
[03:03:38] of signaling you're opinion on the dire need for change.
[03:03:40] This is a strategy to apply pressure as a minority voting block that is usually secure
[03:03:43] for Democrats.
[03:03:44] Totally understand why mainstream demboaters and influencers hated.
[03:03:47] Concerningly, I see people trying to get smaller colleges of the periphery in line via bullying
[03:03:50] like Magda does.
[03:03:52] This won't work.
[03:03:53] Republicans are served wild by nature, so yelling at them to follow mind works.
[03:03:56] Liberals and progressives do not respect authority or value loyalty in the same way, so
[03:03:59] thinking the same approach is doomed to fail.
[03:04:02] find a way to get these voters on your side with incentives or move on to another voting
[03:04:06] block, Henry, about the lack of loyalty is a waste of everyone's time. You'll never
[03:04:10] insult or bully people your way into gaining their vote. You'll only increase their
[03:04:15] apathy. The irony, of course, is that because I'm so goddamn stubborn, I don't turn
[03:04:20] around and go, okay, the Democrats lost me as a person who will work for them, as a
[03:04:26] person who will work with them. Okay. That's just another thing. Like you
[03:04:32] can, you can yell at me all day every day. You can say I'm a Magavoter or
[03:04:35] whatever the fuck you want. The reality of the matter is if I was a Magavoter,
[03:04:39] you would probably be sucking my dick right now.
[03:04:43] Well, Tina, Tina, Tina, Nina Turner also chimed in. You're making a damn
[03:04:48] damn, but I appreciate that. Gavin News and the Charlie Kirk last year,
[03:04:51] while glowing about Kirk. Isn't the person to trust the fight for marginalized
[03:04:54] communities.
[03:04:55] Actually, last night, trying to put my son to bed, he's like, no dad, I just, what time,
[03:05:00] what time's Charlie going to be here?
[03:05:02] What time?
[03:05:03] And I'm like, did you hear his school?
[03:05:04] The money's 13.
[03:05:05] He's like, no, no, this morning wakes up, it's 6 up, and he's like, I'm coming.
[03:05:09] I think he literally would not leave the house.
[03:05:12] Did you let him take off school?
[03:05:13] No, he didn't.
[03:05:14] Of course not.
[03:05:15] He's not here.
[03:05:16] Please explain what, hope people see in the dams and makes no sense.
[03:05:17] It's the, well, for me, in particular, the hope that I see, you might consider it
[03:05:26] naivete, but what I see is opportunity to use the Democratic Party platform to move
[03:05:35] this country in the right trajectory.
[03:05:37] Okay?
[03:05:38] It's not necessarily about like being a die-hard Democratic Party loyalist, not at all.
[03:05:47] But it's more so to use one of the only two viable mechanisms to our advantage, to move the country for the left, to make them recognize, to make them recognize that they actually are more radical than what the Democrats have led them to believe.
[03:06:11] Okay. This is what Bernie was able to do as well. This is what the Bernie crats are doing currently.
[03:06:21] It's not entryism. It's not entryism.
[03:06:26] Okay.
[03:06:31] And how many of you will say this is entryism. Entryism indicates that you can take the bourgeois democratic party and turn it into a socialist working class party.
[03:06:39] is not. This is Newsman's List Shani tour. He's from the Bay Area of California as no authentic connections to moderates independence republicans this effect in.
[03:06:48] So he had to do cringe stuff like this to show he's not a big old live exactly.
[03:06:58] I really thought the dem supporters would wake up and see they can't reform the system and say they need a revolution in revolt. It seems like entry is them.
[03:07:05] The reason why for the record, the reason why it's not entryism is because
[03:07:12] like
[03:07:14] I don't want to talk too much about this, but here I'll fucking say it. All right. This is the opportunity for people to this is the opportunity for people to see
[03:07:23] Americans and I constantly have this conversation, but it bears repeating all the time. Americans do not
[03:07:28] self-identify as socialist, even if they have sympathies towards socialist policies.
[03:07:35] Okay? Americans have no class consciousness. So in order to even unlock the class consciousness
[03:07:41] of the American proletariat, you have to use whatever viable electoral machine you have to
[03:07:48] your advantage. And right now, you have tremendous opportunity. Okay? You have tremendous
[03:07:55] opportunity with an incredibly weak democratic party that has positioned
[03:07:59] itself whenever they run for office as like a little radicals. Oh yeah, we
[03:08:04] want socialized medicine. We want better access to healthcare all this
[03:08:07] shit. Like most Americans understand simple terms use that to your
[03:08:12] advantage. Oh, okay. So you want Medicare for all you want universal
[03:08:16] policies. You want Medicare for all. Like this is what it is. It's not
[03:08:20] about taking over the party and it's in its entirety, but it's about
[03:08:23] using the party in its platform to unlock the revolutionary potential of the proletariat.
[03:08:28] That's it.
[03:08:30] Because it is out there.
[03:08:36] That's it.
[03:08:38] later
[03:08:51] American world were we have a second after our new second new deal imagine how much more
[03:08:54] open the social infrastructure would be if they got a second new difference of
[03:08:57] comments of the Democratic social.
[03:08:59] Yes.
[03:09:01] So you see the way, you see the party as a way to educate before a revolution, when does,
[03:09:09] when does what you're saying become entry-ism?
[03:09:13] Entry-ism is the failed notion of my opinion to assume that you can like single-handedly
[03:09:18] take the bourgeois liberal capitalist democratic party and turn it into a socialist party.
[03:09:23] Why slowly, but surely, entering in these races.
[03:09:27] I'm not saying that's the end goal.
[03:09:29] I don't think that can be the end goal.
[03:09:30] We must always strive for more.
[03:09:33] Okay?
[03:09:37] Entryism is unsuccessful because the people that you end up putting in those positions
[03:09:42] of power end up being molded by the establishment democratic consensus, and they start
[03:09:48] repeating the positions of the establishment democrats, okay?
[03:09:55] people, unfortunately, do not have the ideological discipline to keep pushing beyond what
[03:10:01] we have to demand more.
[03:10:09] That's just the reality of the matter.
[03:10:12] This is why some of those liberals that fucking constantly yell at me are yelling at me
[03:10:17] because they've been taught to be fearful of a true left position, okay?
[03:10:37] I am a liberal, and now I finally see your true colors. You'll turn me into a
[03:10:41] a mentoring candidate, begun devil spawn, exactly.
[03:10:45] But for the time being, getting people to at least drop the unnecessary fear that they
[03:10:56] have about a left position about socialism is what is appropriate, is what is necessary.
[03:11:04] Okay?
[03:11:05] Yeah, Gavin Newsom, and then while this shit is blowing up, Gavin Newsom to visit New Hampshire
[03:11:10] as the eyes presidential run.
[03:11:12] You have a newsroom who's also going to the Munich Security Conference.
[03:11:15] Top Democrats, I in potential 2021 presidential runs,
[03:11:18] hope to use the Munich Security Conference this weekend to burnish their foreign policy
[03:11:22] potentials, elevate their profiles and convince an anxious group of European leaders that
[03:11:25] there is life after president Donald Trump.
[03:11:32] Who do you think would be my pick?
[03:11:34] Here.
[03:11:40] and
[03:11:46] come on now
[03:11:48] entries and is failed because it's you in gradual incremental take over as the final step necessary even though it can not succeed
[03:11:54] it can however
[03:11:55] have a cute high visibility impact cases like in zoron or in burning had that with a dual inside outside strategy to build movement for an outside group to replace is better for sure and that's why it's more feasible yes
[03:12:07] So you're saying it's moot to chase a long-term goal of usurping taking over the Democratic Party from within and converting it to a full-on social party of a viable third party option doesn't ever rise within our lifetime.
[03:12:23] There is no viable third party option right now for a multitude of different reasons, but one of the major reasons is because there is no political education.
[03:12:32] The very fact that most people have to bracket themselves into self-identifying as liberals,
[03:12:37] liberalism being the mass-political movement, okay, in the United States of America,
[03:12:43] in the absence of alternatives, where the alternatives are seen as scary at a time when
[03:12:48] liberalism is fucking failing.
[03:12:53] The only option that is, the only way to even maintain it, like, or create a viable,
[03:13:01] The only way that you can create a viable third option alternative is by unlocking class
[03:13:05] consciousness.
[03:13:07] Is that simple?
[03:13:11] How can we go about making social policies a more populous one in time for 28 social
[03:13:16] is populous populous are populous.
[03:13:20] Hello back in the day when there was better political education even in the United States
[03:13:24] of America, that was always the calendar to socialism was, you just want everything.
[03:13:29] You want what?
[03:13:30] What do you want?
[03:13:31] you want free everything you're fucking lazy
[03:13:35] heck yeah i want free everything fuck you we have the money for it
[03:13:51] i do want to jump a black sweater with a giant dog
[03:13:54] very carefully
[03:14:01] The Leninist position in the early Outs of the development of the Communist Party of China
[03:14:12] was to align with the Kuhmantang.
[03:14:16] The Kuhmantang was a reactionary nationalist movement comprised of the bourgeois classes
[03:14:21] that had no interest whatsoever in changing.
[03:14:24] The previous landed gentry back institutional power that was in the hands of the warlords.
[03:14:29] They were not warlords, but they were totally in line with working with the warlords.
[03:14:34] At the time, the Communist Party of China had 193 paying members.
[03:14:39] The Kuomintang, on the other hand, had 60,000.
[03:14:43] Who runs the People's Republic of China now?
[03:14:54] There was a lot of resistance internally within the CPC structure as well at the time.
[03:15:00] But...
[03:15:03] Let and force their hands into joining forces with the Komen Tang, at least for a period
[03:15:08] of time.
[03:15:09] As they built their movement.
[03:15:12] Keep let and his name out your mouth shut the fuck up.
[03:15:24] to
[03:15:34] it
[03:15:36] anyway
[03:15:41] is still need a party you are opposing that, you are proposing being a part of the democrats use is wrong
[03:15:45] theoretically and historically known is that I'm just a
[03:15:49] I have better
[03:15:51] I have a better mechanism of change than you.
[03:15:55] It wasn't to enter the Clementine brother historical illiteracy.
[03:15:58] You literally didn't.
[03:15:59] You are incapable of reading between the lines.
[03:16:02] Okay.
[03:16:03] You are incapable of reading between the lines.
[03:16:06] It's okay.
[03:16:07] You're just angry.
[03:16:21] As long as people self-idee as liberals and that is what where the masses are, you cannot
[03:16:29] invent an alternative vision where the masses should be, you can pontificate endlessly
[03:16:36] on where the masses and mass politics should be, but you have to work with the masses.
[03:16:44] Socialism in all of its historic development has still apps of fucking loot-lead needed
[03:16:51] to build the vanguard, for example, you know, if you don't even have a self-identifying
[03:16:54] 5% of Bolsheviks, if you don't have any sort of, like even before we get the democratic
[03:17:02] central, uh, democratic centralization, you still need to have, like you still need
[03:17:10] to have even a, a, a, a self declared invested decent percentage of self-identifying
[03:17:18] socialists, self-identifying communists. If you don't have that, then you have no movement.
[03:17:26] In the United States of America, you don't have that at all. It's that simple.
[03:17:34] The CNN Po� has showed shows the number was a liberal anymore if you think that those
[03:17:50] people that self-identifies democratic socialists already have the adequate political education
[03:17:55] in the ideological discipline or the consistency you are out of your mind.
[03:18:04] You need class consciousness and frustrated reforms we have neither, yes.
[03:18:15] The material conditions are not bad enough for the average person yet either.
[03:18:20] And there is also no fucking proof and no evidence that the frustrated masses that say
[03:18:30] enough with liberalism will then turn around and become socialist magically. Okay? They will
[03:18:36] become fascists. They are becoming fascists. Please stop with this fucking nonsense.
[03:18:42] I think this is the most viable way to engage in socialist organizing in the United States
[03:19:03] of America in 2026 the year of our holy Lord, that's what I believe.
[03:19:08] are others who believe in re-litigating historic attempts without taking into consideration
[03:19:15] the material conditions at all. We do not have an assembly line. We have an increasingly
[03:19:22] atomized society. We do not have an assembly line structure and commodity production.
[03:19:27] We do not have child labor. Well, we kind of have child labor now actually. So I guess we
[03:19:31] did return to that form. Um, but by and large people don't think we have child labor.
[03:19:39] Let's just say, let's just put it like that. Okay.
[03:19:51] What is this? I said it last month, and I'm saying it this month, we need to start treating
[03:19:54] letters like a songpiker in his father's name. Wait, we treat their mega counterparts.
[03:19:57] are you as a haneist?
[03:20:16] What child labor do we have?
[03:20:17] Actually asking states like our Kansas have actually rolled back child labor protections
[03:20:21] an effort to make it easier for people to legally engage in child labor. Something that is often
[03:20:30] something that is often not talked about at all.
[03:20:33] Anyway, let's get the Tom Homan and a massive dub for a decentralized network of resistance.
[03:20:59] Tiff, Mahog, and E44, NATO members on Pekir, the Black and Brown communities in the US must
[03:21:07] live under the boot of the GOP until Gaza is free or something.
[03:21:11] Huh.
[03:21:13] Yeah, this person, this person, definitely.
[03:21:19] George Smiley, Black woman, pro West, pro NATO, pro Ukraine, dark brand and Democrat,
[03:21:23] not for ever. I think if this person got their wishes and the democratic party actually,
[03:21:33] you know, ran on whatever the fuck she cares about, they would get like a total of 18 votes,
[03:21:39] maybe. I suspect that they would get 18 total votes. Now, this is not a real position to the
[03:21:45] all this is coming directly from Langley, I think that this is a federal agent, right?
[03:21:53] But it's pretty funny that this like this person thinks like the average Americans,
[03:21:58] the average American would vote for, you know, being a pro-nafo supporter or something
[03:22:05] rather than free healthcare.
[03:22:15] A Sauz not gay, he's not an immigrant, he's a multi-millionaire who goes more views
[03:22:29] the worst things are, he has more to benefit from a Trump-based presidency than 99.9%
[03:22:34] of Americans.
[03:22:36] Identity policy in 2026, multi-millionaire Schumer is not an identity.
[03:22:43] This is awesome because this person literally is a altra Zionist who's who will the
[03:22:50] median voter listen to we should stop giving Israel.
[03:22:55] Quintrillion dollars and instead spend it on ourselves my position versus if you don't
[03:23:01] give Israel 17, Quintrillion dollars, you are a anti-Semite who must be removed from their
[03:23:10] position of power, who must not, who must no longer be able to get gainful employment.
[03:23:15] I wonder, out of these two ideas, who's ideas are more popular?
[03:23:23] Here's a fun game says left this lawyer whenever you see centroslops, slinging loser
[03:23:27] complaining about the left, search their posts for the word genocide.
[03:23:33] It's always, look at what they think about Gaza, look at what they think about Israel,
[03:23:38] Look at what they think about ice.
[03:23:42] Even though some of these centers have actually moved
[03:23:44] on ice luckily.
[03:23:47] Search Gaza and Palestine can be a real eye opener.
[03:23:49] So many Jasmine Cragustans try to with me.
[03:23:51] Almost every single one was actively cheering on genocide
[03:23:53] or at the very least making it to use for a Samoal Samoal.
[03:23:55] the
[03:24:12] That's 100% that's what's so hilarious about it.
[03:24:24] Also this kind of attitude is so stupid because I do well regardless.
[03:24:30] People said, oh, when Biden gets elected you'll lose your audience, guess what, I didn't.
[03:24:39] This fuck is stupid.
[03:24:43] How about you worry about building your own platform?
[03:24:45] You know what I mean?
[03:24:46] How about you worry about building your own audience with your own shit as ideas that
[03:24:50] basal cook voter for Cuomo.
[03:24:51] Oh, that's the other thing.
[03:24:53] When you see people chart like this, see what they said about voting for Andrew Cuomo
[03:24:57] over Zoramum Donny.
[03:24:59] Yeah, Mac DiJaygabs.
[03:25:07] Historically, I've been open about the fact that Democrats demolishing Republicans elections
[03:25:10] makes me horny.
[03:25:11] I'm not discovering another four-second approach is Afro-dezyical power.
[03:25:14] Democrats growing a collective spotting is the performatively destructive online left.
[03:25:19] Yeah, you're not going to be netting too hard.
[03:25:22] I'm going to be honest with you, Maggie Jacobs.
[03:25:24] Sorry to fucking burst your bubble.
[03:25:27] I don't like that guy, but he did not vote for Cuomo.
[03:25:33] He voted for Zelner.
[03:25:36] No, in the general. Really?
[03:25:40] In the general?
[03:25:48] Yeah, Greg Bavino is horny again, by the way, before we continue with the hang-off, sorry, just the fact check, law.
[03:25:57] Just not true, law.
[03:26:02] Love that this happened after you posted the whole people will lie about you, they indeed did, right?
[03:26:06] Primary Bell looked the same but I ranked Zelda first.
[03:26:13] I still don't believe it. I believe this person in shame took a photo of someone else's ballot.
[03:26:22] But I'm glad that they feel the need to lie about it.
[03:26:25] the
[03:26:31] fact lives matter
[03:26:33] zoramundani barely want to local action in liberal and they're
[03:26:35] seeking as terrible can is a leftist will never win national election
[03:26:37] is country and as honest willing to help a republican inflate car on the
[03:26:39] marginalized people to clear about he's an awful person
[03:26:43] i think my body ready to campaign should be given a chance but you let this
[03:26:45] need to stop kissing his ass or on sucks and i hope he loses well
[03:26:51] It's some more time you be sucking his dick.
[03:26:54] The percentage of corporate dams that are mad at you 42% of the lays customers didn't
[03:27:00] know their chips were made from actual potato survey.
[03:27:17] Some are related, but going through the replies in your tweet, storm, I notice it lives
[03:27:20] least pretend they've always been at our position with mom donnie specifically, but generally to I know. Good.
[03:27:28] That's good. They're they're bending the knee. They're generating flexing. That's my point.
[03:27:34] My point is these guys are regime-pilled, okay? They will defend whatever the democratic party puts out.
[03:27:42] So it is pertinent upon us to make sure that the people that the Democrats are putting out
[03:27:48] our focus social is. That's it, is that simple?
[03:27:57] Because some of these people do unironically believe that socialists are dead end, okay?
[03:28:27] they do they legitimately believe the socialists are dead end just as they legitimately believe that
[03:28:33] resisting against ice occupation and Minneapolis would not lead to anything promising
[03:28:39] they have no vision they lack they lack political courage they lack vision
[03:28:44] destiny said in a recent stream that he likes mongdonny when he does good things but when things fall apart in New York
[03:28:48] he'll say I told you so yeah
[03:28:51] Seeing a big change here in last couple weeks, and it's all good changes.
[03:29:02] The most were pleased to report that we're seeing a notable decrease on an unlawful agitator
[03:29:06] activity here in Minneapolis and overall throughout the state.
[03:29:10] This is great news for Minnesota communities.
[03:29:12] They had been adversely impacted by the lawlessness and chaos in the street.
[03:29:17] We have what we call here, QRS, quick response force, security teams that get called
[03:29:23] out when ice officers are doing that operation.
[03:29:25] They get in the truck.
[03:29:26] Tom, don't say this.
[03:29:27] That was doing well.
[03:29:29] Tom, Tom, stop.
[03:29:33] Do you think about the doubt?
[03:29:35] Tom, Tom is.
[03:29:38] I'm the the Walter White me even the car screaming.
[03:29:43] Tom.
[03:29:44] the fuck you're mom hated you before birth enough to give you a block the airway
[03:29:51] Tom home and oh my god
[03:29:57] Tom is no Thomas in stop
[03:30:02] consider the doubt before saying such silly things
[03:30:07] I'm about to bad potatoes get out of control if there's a danger in public states of
[03:30:14] that risk, these QRS respond to help these officers get off the X and get out of that situation.
[03:30:22] I asked day one I got, I want to know what the QRS call out to our, what the deployments
[03:30:27] are, I want to every time a QRS call it out.
[03:30:31] The QRF deployments have dropped dramatically,
[03:30:35] because we have less of that occurring,
[03:30:37] less of the agitator that cross that line.
[03:30:40] That is a good thing that is a win for everybody.
[03:30:42] Not just for the safety and law enforcement officers,
[03:30:45] it's a win for this community.
[03:30:50] With that, in success,
[03:30:51] I have been made a rest in public safety threats
[03:30:53] and other priorities since this surge operation began.
[03:30:57] As well as the unprecedented levels of coordination,
[03:30:59] and we have a team from state of fusions and local law enforcement.
[03:31:03] I have proposed and wasn't Trump as concurred
[03:31:07] that this surge operation conclude.
[03:31:12] A significant drawdown that's already been underway this week.
[03:31:15] Yeah, yeah, we did.
[03:31:16] It was tremendously successful.
[03:31:18] It was all blah, blah, blah, blah.
[03:31:22] The comments doing what about Jay-Z really highlights how off the path?
[03:31:25] We are.
[03:31:25] We're talking about drills that talk about F-C and F-C and F-C and F-C and
[03:31:26] drug and underage grows the rate them why y'all don't want to talk about the
[03:31:29] vaccine files
[03:31:45] I mean a lot of people are just cattle you can you can just avoid them honestly
[03:31:49] like anyone that responds the cardie be talking about the vaccine cover up
[03:31:53] as
[03:31:56] as you know with like a jz donkers on the
[03:31:57] thing is just a fucking it is just
[03:31:59] cattle that you can avoid
[03:32:01] you can you can just like jico keys
[03:32:02] in front of their eyes that's it
[03:32:04] you can convince them to sell you
[03:32:06] the deed
[03:32:07] for their home if they have one for
[03:32:09] zero dollars
[03:32:11] to the next week
[03:32:16] we have a lot of work to do across
[03:32:17] this country to bring good public
[03:32:18] safety to the president one for
[03:32:19] the Somali fraud hoax or did
[03:32:21] everyone forget about that now I mean
[03:32:22] It was never about that anyway, especially because ICE and the Department of Homeland Security
[03:32:26] has no basis in dealing with hoaxes and things like that.
[03:32:34] We ask who should be in this country?
[03:32:40] And to deliver on President Trump's prime, for strong board of security and mass deportation,
[03:32:45] law enforcement officers, Dr. Mesa, and the operation will either return to the duty station
[03:32:50] will be signed elsewhere to keep just that. Hey, Sean Hannity here. Hey, click here to subscribe.
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[03:32:58] Senator Holly. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I'm going to see all the zombies start with you.
[03:33:04] You're the attorney general of the state of Minnesota. Do I have that curve?
[03:33:07] I saw majority report this morning. Talk about that.
[03:33:10] Kato guy who fucking cooked. I mean, he had some dumb libertarian takes as well in between,
[03:33:14] but I do want to I do want to watch that clip if someone has it.
[03:33:20] All right, let's see, yes.
[03:33:23] So you're aware of my job, you know the answer to that.
[03:33:26] You're not going to answer my questions or we go start this way.
[03:33:28] Are you the Attorney General of State Minnesota, yes or no?
[03:33:32] You know the answer.
[03:33:34] Michelle, some of you are in my courtroom now. You're under oath.
[03:33:36] So I suggest the chance of my questions.
[03:33:38] Did Chief Law enforcement officer at the State Minnesota?
[03:33:40] Yes or no?
[03:33:43] Let's try another question.
[03:33:44] You familiar with the $9 billion in historic fraud out of your state,
[03:33:48] including the $250 million in the feeding our future program alone.
[03:33:53] You familiar with that?
[03:33:54] Don't turn to the pages in your book to your pod at answers.
[03:33:56] Are you familiar with it? Yes or no?
[03:33:58] Yes, I am familiar with it.
[03:33:59] Very familiar, aren't you?
[03:34:00] Because the people who ran the feeding our future's program came to you
[03:34:04] in your official office in the state capital, December 11, 2021,
[03:34:08] and asked for your help in getting investigators off their backs.
[03:34:12] They complained to you.
[03:34:14] Are you aware that twitch is forcing us on your stream?
[03:34:16] I don't think so unless unless there's some issue here, but I don't think that that is the case.
[03:34:26] I think, but you should subscribe regardless to avoid the as of the top of the hour, which I don't think they are.
[03:34:34] I think it seems because you have a ad blocker on, so it just serves a commercial break, but there's no actual ad.
[03:34:40] Instantly dependent. I'm at free not subscribed bitch changed that right now the Parker broadcasting service is sponsored by you the viewers for you the viewers. What the hell what the hell do you mean you're not fucking subscribed?
[03:34:52] Subscribe now for free with a true crime right now or for six dollars a month or give to sub
[03:35:00] To those who do not have it. I
[03:35:03] Mean it's voluntary though. Let's be real don't pre-roll still haven't no not on the politics tab
[03:35:10] do you get paper and touch promsubs? Yes.
[03:35:20] The greedy insulin dependent. What do you have to pay for? You're fucking insulin?
[03:35:28] lame. But with turbo, with the twitch turbo, it doesn't it doesn't give me anything. Unless
[03:35:44] I serve ads and if I don't serve ads, then I don't get any revenue from twitch turbo.
[03:35:47] Philly D centric audience is on your side between you and Gavin. Hell yes. Oh my god, even
[03:35:53] if Philip the Franco is on, even if Philip the Franco's audience is on my side, I'm telling
[03:35:56] you man, even the lives on the internet, self-ideeing lives, lifelong democratic party
[03:36:02] voters are like, fuck, have a new some. Yes. Yes. That's why all the chirping from these
[03:36:07] fucking Twitter centers lives are irrelevant upwards of an hour about state investigators
[03:36:14] going after them and they begged you to help them and you agreed to it amazingly. And
[03:36:20] we know you did that's because it's all caught on tape. Yeah. It's a single sentence
[03:36:25] is called on tape. Here's what you said. Let's take a look. You said it's not a question.
[03:36:28] You said to them, send me the names of all these folks who are investigating them.
[03:36:34] You said to them, send me their names and I'll take that list and I'll call the
[03:36:38] person over at education. It was investigating them and say, what's going on? Why am I
[03:36:43] getting these complaints? Then you would on to say, I already have my team working on
[03:36:48] this. What day should we get together to discuss it again? You made pledge after
[03:36:55] You said, we've got to make sure this guy who's investigating them stops it.
[03:36:59] You said you have my attention.
[03:37:01] I'm concerned about this.
[03:37:03] You said, let's go fight these people, meaning the people who are investigating the fraud.
[03:37:10] Why'd you do it?
[03:37:11] Why'd you help them?
[03:37:12] Are you going to let me answer it?
[03:37:13] Please.
[03:37:14] We're all here.
[03:37:15] So first of all, you're a cherry-picking course out of there.
[03:37:17] Why did you help them?
[03:37:18] I thought you were going to let me answer.
[03:37:20] Why did you?
[03:37:21] Why did you?
[03:37:22] Why did you help them?
[03:37:23] Why did you help them?
[03:37:24] truth and all that you answer. I will tell it to you. Good to be a nice change.
[03:37:27] So, no, no, that, that's the, Mr. Chairman, I didn't come here to be a salt and I came
[03:37:31] here by the way. You came here for the truth. Let's have a look at the water here.
[03:37:36] There are a lot of it white and every member of this audience. And they're cherished
[03:37:39] into their voting. It's 54 minutes long. And all in public, there's you can Google it right
[03:37:45] now and listen to it. And listen to it. I'll help them. First of all, I didn't help them.
[03:37:49] You did. No, I did not. I certainly didn't. You said you didn't do it in form.
[03:37:54] You didn't you didn't well wait a minute. I already have my team working on this again. That's all you have. I have I have my team
[03:38:00] My team
[03:38:02] Assisted with the infrastructure that led to the prosecution and conviction of these people
[03:38:07] You didn't look for your prosecutor. You did not know you did not
[03:38:12] You have all BS you are capable of what I know you as not only you're 20 and I have one talk of the
[03:38:17] Hey listen my time doesn't know what you're talking about. Oh, sir
[03:38:20] You know how to count it's everything. You know, it's like you take your money
[03:38:24] take their money. I didn't you took $10,000. No, that's a false
[03:38:30] $10,000. $10,000. Nine days after the meeting false
[03:38:35] say to $10,000. Just what happened? They went to your office.
[03:38:39] Bro, the most effective argumentation tool that these guys have at
[03:38:43] their disposal that they deploy over and over again is just
[03:38:46] know you know you know you know you does it. That's all they got,
[03:38:49] maybe know you know you know you that's
[03:38:54] they call this it at money for me it's also
[03:38:57] right came to your office it was your
[03:38:59] official office you live for 54 minutes
[03:39:02] know they asked you for help you pledge it to them
[03:39:04] and they talked repeatedly about money in fact
[03:39:07] it's all they talked about money money money money money
[03:39:10] money they said we will put our dollars in the right place
[03:39:13] we will support candidates that will fight to protect our
[03:39:16] You replied that's right. They said that you are secure your donor base and secure in your power base
[03:39:22] You can act the way you want you replied money is freedom
[03:39:26] They said the amount of money. This is because they I'm reading the transcript the amount of money
[03:39:30] You're relating and I'm just reading today. It's powerful and we haven't realized again in the meaningful way
[03:39:35] And you said give me the specifics and nine days later
[03:39:39] You took ten thousand dollars. That's a lot of people who were then and died
[03:39:43] It's in your reports. Why do you do it? Sir, this was your worth it. You know what this is at the
[03:39:49] theatrical 10,000. This is the truth. It has a number of bills like of which you have done.
[03:39:54] No, you helped fraudsters to fraud your site and this government of nine per million dollars.
[03:40:00] And you got a set campaign contribution out of this. You ought to be united.
[03:40:04] True. Well, that's the truth. I think we've made the point. Let's keep the change.
[03:40:11] for the record. All last
[03:40:13] call out. And that's the
[03:40:15] sure. Oh, no, this is all on
[03:40:17] the right. So did you bother
[03:40:19] doing investigate where the money
[03:40:21] that you facilitated their fraud
[03:40:23] for where it went? Do you know
[03:40:25] where it went? But it was used for
[03:40:27] the fraudulent money. I do
[03:40:29] because we just heard testimony about it
[03:40:31] yesterday because we were on
[03:40:33] with tears in hundreds of millions
[03:40:35] of dollars to test true to not
[03:40:37] national criminal organizations
[03:40:39] to child trafficking and you took $10,000, that's a lie and help them do it.
[03:40:44] You know, the other thing is, there's a blowers came to you as early as 2019.
[03:40:49] Let's look.
[03:40:50] As early as 2019, let's look.
[03:40:52] Don't talk over me.
[03:40:53] As early as 2019, it's my hearing, pal.
[03:40:57] As early as 2019.
[03:40:59] Don't come with the blowers came to, well, I should call your prisoner because you got
[03:41:03] to be jail.
[03:41:04] You see what you did in 2019, whistleblowers came to you in your office and referred to
[03:41:09] you, fought allegations from feeding our futures and you blow them off.
[03:41:13] Listen, you're on state newspaper.
[03:41:14] That's a lie.
[03:41:15] The Minnesota Star Tribune, the partners in nutrition brought its concerns to the Attorney
[03:41:19] General's Office in 2018 and in 2019.
[03:41:23] And you did nothing.
[03:41:24] You did nothing for years.
[03:41:25] The only action you took is, once all these fraudsters came to your office and asked you
[03:41:30] to get involved and offered you money, not come to the office.
[03:41:33] They did not come to my office, you're completely wrong about that with the emergency.
[03:41:40] And you took 10,000 dollars and they also gave your family money.
[03:41:45] They gave your family thousands of dollars in campaign contributions to pay what they gave.
[03:41:49] You made us put the business.
[03:41:51] You know, this is completely under your post.
[03:41:54] Yeah, we know the New York Post.
[03:41:55] Minnesota Key Fellows and AG accepted campaign donations from individuals linked to the $250 million
[03:42:00] $1 million, COVID fraud scheme.
[03:42:01] After they were in your office.
[03:42:03] Now, donations came on December 20th.
[03:42:05] Sir, you never come on December 11th,
[03:42:06] and on January 20th, the FBI knocked over their headquarters.
[03:42:10] No, no.
[03:42:11] That's the sequence of events here.
[03:42:13] No, it's not been right at the center of this
[03:42:16] block, not the sequence of events and something
[03:42:18] to be able to.
[03:42:19] And sir, the false news should resign.
[03:42:21] And sir, you should resign.
[03:42:23] I was thinking the same thing about you.
[03:42:24] I was thinking about you.
[03:42:25] I was thinking about you.
[03:42:27] I'm sure after you're encountering the streets, you are.
[03:42:29] Because that's because this parade of our lives and
[03:42:33] the presentation I'm inspired by the exchange for
[03:42:36] this representation.
[03:42:37] Thomas expired Senator Moran.
[03:42:40] The Minister of Lieutenant Governor
[03:42:44] encouraged people to put their bodies on the line.
[03:42:46] I can't imagine encouraging somebody that supported me
[03:42:50] politically to go and put themselves into harm's way.
[03:42:55] I can't imagine that.
[03:42:56] Particularly when you know that these
[03:42:59] law enforcement officials had been shot at, a couple of legal immigrants inadvertently
[03:43:05] killed because people were shooting at ICE officers.
[03:43:09] Their vehicles have been ran by some of these peaceful protesters, probably the trained
[03:43:13] activists.
[03:43:14] By the way, having this kind of attitude right now, like especially right now, when the
[03:43:22] body camera footage that just came out is in the fucking sanity, okay? It is absolute
[03:43:31] in fucking sanity. These people are trying to shoot at ourselves as you fucking bullshit, okay?
[03:43:39] Not only is it unimaginably unpopular, even Republicans are looking at it and going,
[03:43:44] yeah, I don't know, this one maybe is a little bit too much.
[03:43:47] The video I'm talking about, we will be watching in a little bit.
[03:43:53] Okay, but yes, I have seen both line bovinos or hornetweets.
[03:44:00] That's besides the point, that's like not the most consequential part of the story.
[03:44:09] Hold on, I want to show you the, oh, it's in the next video.
[03:44:15] Okay, we'll watch it.
[03:44:17] Yes, I saw the GQ post.
[03:44:18] I'm going to talk about China Maxing as well, hold on.
[03:44:21] Okay.
[03:44:22] This is a woman that was shot by Board of Patrol ages in Chicago.
[03:44:25] I think Maria Martinez, if I'm not mistaken,
[03:44:28] it is fucking insane.
[03:44:30] I had another person that they lied and said
[03:44:32] was like a terrorist or whatever for the record.
[03:44:35] Axe thrown at their vehicles.
[03:44:38] I can't imagine encouraging people,
[03:44:41] which self-signarms away.
[03:44:44] Get out there and record that.
[03:44:47] I, as a government official, would have said, back off, let us work with us.
[03:44:53] Let's cooperate with it.
[03:44:54] Let's let's see if we can't de-escalate this.
[03:44:57] But Attorney General, you did the exact opposite, and two people are dead, because
[03:45:04] you encourage them to put themselves into harm's way.
[03:45:08] And now you're exploiting those two martyrs.
[03:45:10] That was a tragedy.
[03:45:12] Moherners.
[03:45:13] It never...
[03:45:14] our martyrs. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice,
[03:45:18] should have happened. Now, we can investigate, but I can't imagine
[03:45:25] either called a martyrs or called them murders in which, you know,
[03:45:29] both are correct in a law enforcement official, where I know my
[03:45:35] colleagues have been shot at their vehicles round, but they're trained
[03:45:41] The fact that it's deployed, and by the way, we know at least one of those activists
[03:45:47] has sent an automatic pistol with extra clips.
[03:45:51] So now you're an ice officer.
[03:45:53] You're doing enforcement action.
[03:45:55] You've got a team behind you.
[03:45:56] Try to protect you.
[03:45:58] You've got all these trained activists behind you.
[03:46:01] Is there any wonder they're at hair, trigger, alert?
[03:46:06] the tragedy was going to happen and you in current state and you ought to feel damn guilty
[03:46:13] about it.
[03:46:14] Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
[03:46:15] This kind of political posturing rings, hollow, would you know the actual confrontations
[03:46:19] with eyes lead to fucking murders over and over again?
[03:46:23] None of the shit matters.
[03:46:24] Oh, oh, we love Second Amendment except for the fact that, you know, when someone is
[03:46:29] doing an open carry, yeah.
[03:46:32] The government claims she ran board of patrol agents of their vehicle before an Asian
[03:46:35] shot her five times with the new body camp video shows the Asian turned his steering wheel
[03:46:39] towards Murray, Marmar Martinez and that he was congratulated for excellent service after
[03:46:43] shooting her.
[03:46:44] This is in-fucking defensible chat.
[03:46:47] If you haven't seen this, let's take a look.
[03:46:50] This is newly released by the way.
[03:46:52] Notice how he goes cameras on.
[03:46:54] That's another thing that is really frustrating about the body camera conversation is
[03:46:58] the like the body cameras are something that these guys are at odds with. They're not.
[03:47:02] Okay. That's a fucking lie. Any kind of like reform in the body camera position is not actually
[03:47:08] is not actually moving the conversation in a place that we need to move it to. They're just
[03:47:12] using that as a way to just give modest reforms or the idea of modest reforms. The guy that shot
[03:47:19] Renee Good literally was filming himself with his phone camera. It's awesome.
[03:47:28] Well, what's next?
[03:47:28] Oh, at least he could use both hands when he fucking murder
[03:47:31] as other people like Renee Good next time.
[03:47:33] Because the body camera will do the filming process for him.
[03:47:37] Lee Body Camera video, a team of three
[03:47:39] board of patrol agencies driving through a south side
[03:47:41] Chicago neighborhood to have guns drawn.
[03:47:45] Marie Mar Martinez, an American citizen in school
[03:47:47] teacher, is driving next to them, honking her horn,
[03:47:51] warning people to the presence of federal immigration
[03:47:54] enforcement.
[03:47:55] Like, this image should be posterized everywhere
[03:47:59] as a somber reminder for those who are oblivious
[03:48:02] that when ice is around you and your neighborhoods and whatnot
[03:48:05] they got their fingers on the trigger and they're in the car with their fucking gear
[03:48:08] and their weapons, okay?
[03:48:14] Another vehicle is behind the agents, also honking the horn.
[03:48:19] All right, it's time to get aggressive and be quick out.
[03:48:21] It's just trying to box us in.
[03:48:23] It all happens in seconds.
[03:48:25] See something there?
[03:48:30] You see that?
[03:48:32] Do you notice something there?
[03:48:34] They fucking lied and said,
[03:48:37] Martinez was the one who actually rammed into the ice car as a terrorist.
[03:48:42] Okay?
[03:48:43] So it all happens in seconds.
[03:48:55] These tactical dipshits are straight up running around, acting like they're in secario.
[03:49:06] It's time to get aggressive, it's time to get kinetic with them.
[03:49:09] The people that they're getting kinetic with are fucking American citizens, by the way.
[03:49:13] Mark Tinaz was shot five times and survived. In this surveillance video you can see the front
[03:49:26] of the agent's SUV come to a stop. Four seconds later, Martinaz is silver Nissan drives off.
[03:49:33] She says fearing for her life. The Department of Homeland Security was quick to accuse her
[03:49:38] of attacking federal law enforcement, saying Border Patrol agents were, quote,
[03:49:42] ambushed by domestic terrorists that ramped federal agents with their vehicles.
[03:49:47] FBI director Caspert. Yeah, it turns out once again I'm going to show you. Look.
[03:49:52] Enforcement.
[03:49:52] What's that?
[03:49:54] Dude's another vehicle behind the agents, also honking the horn.
[03:49:59] All right, it's only to get aggressive and get the
[03:50:01] f*** out. Is there a certain box that's in?
[03:50:03] It all happens in seconds. Look.
[03:50:06] Do you see that?
[03:50:08] Do you see that?
[03:50:10] So I'm going to grow some good f*** out.
[03:50:12] Let's just turn the box this in.
[03:50:14] It all happens in seconds.
[03:50:28] Ice rams into her car and then shoots into her fucking car, dude.
[03:50:32] She says fearing for her life. The Department of Homeland Security was quick to accuse
[03:50:39] her of attacking federal law enforcement, saying Border Patrol agents were quote,
[03:50:43] What do you mean see what can you explain what is happening? He's swirving into her car, ramming her fucking car.
[03:50:51] He says, we got to get like active. We got it. They're trying to box us in ridiculous, okay?
[03:50:59] Swirves into her car to ram into her car and then subsequently get out of their vehicle and shoot her.
[03:51:08] you see it in the video ambushed by the. We need to get aggressive. Sorry. Doesn't
[03:51:14] they act if he even says we need to get aggressive.
[03:51:17] Terrace that rammed federal agents with their vehicles FBI director Cas Patel posted on social
[03:51:23] media about the incident quote attack our law enforcement and this FBI will find you
[03:51:29] and bring you to justice. The post also included a link to video of a car ramming, but
[03:51:35] it had no connection to Martinez's case.
[03:51:40] And the body camera video tells a different story, and the lead up to the collision,
[03:51:44] you hear Asians say they are going to collide with Martinez.
[03:51:47] We're going to make contact here, boxed in.
[03:51:51] And just before the moment of impact, its agent Charles X, who sharply turns his steering wheel
[03:51:57] in the direction of Martinez, proof according to our attorney, that they hit her vehicle,
[03:52:03] not the other way around.
[03:52:06] And as for the claim of being bought sting, this surveillance video calls that comment
[03:52:11] into question, with nothing in the path ahead of the Border Agents vehicle.
[03:52:15] The court also released text messages and emails from after the shooting, including one
[03:52:20] message from Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bavino, just hours after the incident, offering
[03:52:25] to delay the retirement of Agent Xom, who shot Martinez.
[03:52:29] Good afternoon, I'd like to extend an opportunity to extend your retirement beyond age with
[03:52:32] This will be your second extension and we'd like to consider this if feasible and light of your excellent service in Chicago
[03:52:37] You have much yet left to do Joe
[03:52:40] Would you have staff work with Mr. Xem to accomplish this most illustrative endeavor?
[03:52:45] Thank you in light of your excellent service in Chicago
[03:52:48] You have much left to do and then a text message exchange between agent Xem and someone whose name was redacted
[03:52:55] Are they supportive someone asked big time?
[03:52:59] everyone has been including chief Bovino chief thanks Secretary Nome and L. H. F. A.
[03:53:05] himself in various texts to and from fellow agents. You need to understand by the way,
[03:53:10] some of these guys are other like law enforcement from different branches to they know what to say
[03:53:15] when the fucking body cam is around. That's why it's important when they go, oh, cams are on by the way.
[03:53:20] So they can try to create plausible deniability or try to create reasonable grounds
[03:53:25] for the court case that will come up after their chase in a fucking legal kill.
[03:53:32] Just understand that, which is why I keep repeating like the body camera, the body camera situation
[03:53:38] is not actually the reform that you think is going to solve this problem.
[03:53:44] They have full control over when the body cameras are turned on.
[03:53:47] They have full control over what to release and what not to release.
[03:53:51] plenty of instances where the, you know, for as many successful cases of prosecution
[03:53:55] against bad cops that like accidentally turn on the body camera forgetting that the
[03:54:00] cameras can actually record the the 30 seconds prior to you turning on the body
[03:54:05] camera and whatnot. There are a million of instances where they actually use the body
[03:54:09] camera to their advantage to make it seem as though they actually had reasonable
[03:54:13] fear for their own safety. That is what they're doing in this circumstance where they
[03:54:17] say, oh, they're trying to box us in regardless of the additional evidence that you
[03:54:21] can see with your own two fucking eyes that they weren't getting boxed in at all to make
[03:54:27] it seem like there is no reasonable grounds for this kind of violent escalation.
[03:54:35] Okay?
[03:54:39] They will lie, they'll say we've been struck, they will make it seem like someone shot
[03:54:47] them.
[03:54:48] Yeah, it seems like the Asian who was recording was trying to cover the body cam with his
[03:54:53] weapon, but Mr. fact that the high FOV of the cam was showing X them through the trigger guard
[03:54:58] of the gun.
[03:55:00] Yeah.
[03:55:02] It's only fortunate that we actually see the wheel steering and the direction of the car.
[03:55:12] He was trying to fucking cover it up and it didn't work.
[03:55:15] Moot was celebratory.
[03:55:17] Good job, brother.
[03:55:18] You're a legend among agents.
[03:55:20] You better have to know that.
[03:55:21] He hears on me when I see you at training.
[03:55:23] That's awesome.
[03:55:24] You did real good.
[03:55:26] Dammit man.
[03:55:27] Good shooting.
[03:55:28] The day after the shooting, Martinez was indicted.
[03:55:31] According to the complaint, she, quote,
[03:55:33] forcefully assaulted, resisted, opposed,
[03:55:35] impeded, intimidated, and interfered with an officer
[03:55:38] of the United States. After her attorney viewed the body
[03:55:41] camera footage and other evidence emerged, the undermined
[03:55:44] the government's version of events, prosecutors made an extraordinary
[03:55:48] move and asked the judge to drop their own case.
[03:55:52] The judge agreed, but not long after she told me the shooting
[03:55:56] still hons her.
[03:55:57] I don't want to remember that day.
[03:55:59] You're laying there at night,
[03:56:01] and you're just thinking about it like,
[03:56:03] was gonna happen, like, it's really emotional to me.
[03:56:07] So there's like, it's hard for me to talk about it,
[03:56:10] but I'm trying.
[03:56:13] And that's part of why Martinists push
[03:56:14] to get all of this information out.
[03:56:16] Because anytime there's footage of these fucking animals,
[03:56:19] by the way, you get to see their mentality, like,
[03:56:23] grass yes
[03:56:25] hitting them with a fucking this fucking bitch all this stuff
[03:56:29] like
[03:56:30] it is pretty crazy
[03:56:40] it's pretty crazy like the the the the
[03:56:44] the way that they operate they're fucking animals
[03:56:48] okay as she believed that it allows people to have a greater understanding
[03:56:51] of how agents might react after something like this no matter the city,
[03:56:55] and the further clear her name, because the Department of Homeland Security has never retracted
[03:56:59] his accusations against Martinez, even after the case was dropped. Now, the shooting agent
[03:57:05] Charles X. Customs and Board of Protection said he's been placed on what was described
[03:57:08] as routine administrative leave pending further investigation.
[03:57:11] It's wild to me, are we watching the same video?
[03:57:22] This is CNN parodying a lawsuit complaint for the sake of getting an emotional
[03:57:25] exclusive interview to Ryle up their 53 viewers.
[03:57:27] They should drop the charade and hire to report us, uh, co-counsel.
[03:57:30] Once again, CNN demonstrates complete, uh, a version to the truth.
[03:57:35] Border Patrol dude, I can't, I'm sorry.
[03:57:40] can't fucking deal with this shit dude. I like they are actively designing a world
[03:57:46] where the truth doesn't matter. There's no consensus reality. I don't know, I don't know
[03:57:54] what to say about it, you know? I appreciate the response with the Asian himself testified. He wouldn't
[03:57:59] consider this a ramming and this is also his vehicle in the highlighted circle at the time
[03:58:03] of the shooting. Do you assess this is boxed in? Like what are you debate-lording? You're the
[03:58:08] department of Homeland Security. This is the one with a cop joked about her having
[03:58:13] five bullet holes for her seven holes.
[03:58:21] Yeah, every wonder why on Earth, the labor department kept posting Nazi memes. Apparently
[03:58:25] it's this guy and now he's at the department of Homeland Security. He raised the
[03:58:29] alarms about among colleagues at U.S. D.O.L. for social media posts that echoed
[03:58:32] white supremacists in neo-Nazis. So now he will handle social media for
[03:58:36] Department of Homeland Security.gov, a great scoop by having Gorlik for the New York Times
[03:58:42] on the 21-year-old behind all those weird memes on government accounts.
[03:58:47] That's right.
[03:58:51] The administration looked at all of his like white supremacist posting at the Department
[03:58:55] of Labor and thought, well, this would work better for our more white supremacist department
[03:59:02] home of insecurity.
[03:59:04] How do you define white identity and what you think is even raised about white identity?
[03:59:10] Certain types of Anglo-derived culture that comes from our head.
[03:59:16] Bro, why do they always look like this?
[03:59:23] Why do they always look like this?
[03:59:31] This is not the 21 year old I don't think. This is a different guy. There's many guys.
[03:59:40] Right. This is this can't be the 21 year old. You will never convince me that that guy is the
[03:59:44] 21. Yeah, Peyton Rollins is 21. That's a different guy. This is Mr. Jeremy Carl. I'm sure Peyton
[03:59:50] Rolls also looks like shit too. It's crazy how fucking ugly these people are. Don't give
[03:59:57] me this body fascism nonsense from the left by the way. I'm sorry, from this day on body fascism just means you have the worst fucking body if you are a fascist, okay?
[04:00:09] Ah, Hassan, this is eugenics. No shop, man. I've seen far too many motherfuckers that look like this that are like we are the master rays. Bitch, you are the master bait. What the fuck are you talking about?
[04:00:21] The master rays my fucking ass.
[04:00:23] I swear to God, hate makes you fucking rock from within, and it just comes out in your outsides.
[04:00:31] This is the little 21 year old Nasi.
[04:00:38] It was now in charge of digital com's director at DHS Peyton Rollet.
[04:00:41] There it is.
[04:00:53] It's crazy man.
[04:00:58] It's just, it's so funny these guys are constantly worried about declining white
[04:01:06] birth rates and it's like, well, okay, well, don't look like that.
[04:01:09] You know what I mean?
[04:01:10] I'm sorry.
[04:01:11] I'm sorry.
[04:01:13] Look at like bad bunny and then look at you.
[04:01:18] Who do you think people are going to want to fuck?
[04:01:20] You could even the odds a little bit if you didn't have such a repulsive world view, okay?
[04:01:37] But let's be real.
[04:01:38] You ain't getting no pussy looking like that.
[04:01:40] It's for you there.
[04:01:41] I can't with the worst ideas of all time.
[04:01:45] Let me think about this.
[04:01:49] You know, Senator, I would say if you were to look at the book by one of your former Senate colleagues more in fighting about the sort of Scotch Irish military culture and certain, you know, pride that went with that, that would be one example. Obviously you could have sub-elimence of that culture. You could have Italians, you could have Irish and those are in many ways more.
[04:02:09] But are you worried about white culture?
[04:02:11] You're not worried about, you're now retreating to ethnic identity.
[04:02:16] You don't speak about ethnic identity.
[04:02:17] You speak about white identity.
[04:02:19] So tell me the values that stitch together white identity.
[04:02:24] And make it different than black identity.
[04:02:27] I would say that the white church is very different than the black church in terms of its
[04:02:30] tone and style on average.
[04:02:33] Foods, food ways could often be different.
[04:02:37] Dude, it's awesome.
[04:02:41] Yeah, Irish people, clown on Irish American
[04:02:44] Cheds all day. Yeah, this is, this is so
[04:02:47] fucking sick, interrogating these guys's
[04:02:51] worldview and putting it on the fucking main
[04:02:53] stage is so fire, because one, you get to
[04:02:57] see them too. You get to watch tears behind
[04:02:59] their eyes as they tearfully talk about
[04:03:01] white identity. Like, there is no pathway
[04:03:05] for this. Okay, if you think that the average like suburban Republican or even like the
[04:03:12] most racist fucking ruraloid is going to look at this guy and be like, well, you know, he's
[04:03:16] speaking my language, like no, there is no cohesive coherent white identity that leans into
[04:03:23] this uroid style of white supremacy and white nationalism. Okay, American white supremacy revolves
[04:03:30] around proximity to blackness and that's it. Okay, we ain't black. We ain't black. That's
[04:03:35] what it is. That's all. This is these guys try to do this like European style of like
[04:03:41] fascist nationalism that revolves around white identity, but the white identity
[04:03:46] shit in and of itself is all there. Oh, still positively European. Or sorry, the white
[04:03:51] identity thing is actually very American Europeans for the most part, at least historic
[04:03:59] fascism in Europe has not always revolved around white identity, right?
[04:04:04] It's revolved around like ethnic boundaries.
[04:04:07] It's that's the reason why European fascism historically is considered
[04:04:10] slabs to be not white whereas the American whiteness has expanded
[04:04:15] over time and considers many of these other subgroups that historic
[04:04:19] fascists despise than wanted to ethnically eliminate, eradicate as a part
[04:04:24] of the white in group.
[04:04:29] you look at like real European nationalists right now real European
[04:04:32] fascist like they hate Polish people for example they fucking hate
[04:04:37] Polish people they don't consider Polish people to be white
[04:04:42] so when you start talking about like
[04:04:45] when you start talking about like fucking uh... you know when you start
[04:04:49] trying to merge like white nationalism white identity racism
[04:04:53] with european style fascism
[04:04:57] You kind of have this mismatch, this mix of both of these different variants, and it kind
[04:05:05] of fails in America, it fails to reach like broad consensus.
[04:05:12] You would not be considered white in Europe exactly, but I'm white as fuck in America,
[04:05:15] that's my point.
[04:05:16] You said can be different, those are being erased, music can be different, if you look
[04:05:22] at the Super Bowl half-time show, which was not in English, so our ability to access
[04:05:26] white churches or white food or white music is being erased. I am concerned with the majority
[04:05:34] common American culture that we had for some time that through particularly mass immigration,
[04:05:41] I think has become much more Balkanized that I think that we can us and again I'm not running
[04:05:45] away from that comment. I'm not apologizing for it. I'm way over my time. I think you're struggling
[04:05:50] to answer this question, right? Because underlying your beliefs is a sentiment that White
[04:05:58] culture is just simply better.
[04:06:04] I love that shit dude. Injected directly into my fucking veins. I love seeing these dumb
[04:06:11] ass-baby like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. This was Jeremy
[04:06:15] Carl, Talk Trump State Department, nominee-deleted thousands of social media posts, many with
[04:06:19] inflammatory commentary, including in senior opposed by race claims that peaceful
[04:06:22] coexistence is Democrats is impossible, even a call for any wine garden to be executed.
[04:06:26] One deleted tweet set capital riders on trial had it worse than black people in Jim
[04:06:30] Crow, Mississippi.
[04:06:31] Carl asked the internet archive way back machine to remove his tweets, but seemingly forgot
[04:06:34] the request they remove his previous username under the same account.
[04:06:37] Carl also repeatedly wrote about the great replacement of conspiracy theory that pauses
[04:06:40] that there's a plot to intentionally bring non-white immigrants to the Western countries
[04:06:44] and replace them with white populations.
[04:06:46] Imagine thinking the great replacement is a conspiracy theory he wrote in September 2021.
[04:06:49] He marked George Floyd's death and said he was looking up from hell and called celebrating
[04:06:53] Judy the surrender to white people. This is also a part of the reason why
[04:06:57] like leftists in general never shut the fuck up about their true positions their ideology.
[04:07:03] As opposed to right wingers that constantly have to shelter their ideology.
[04:07:07] Because when push comes to shove, their endpoint is fucking insane.
[04:07:11] Our endpoint, you might consider to be not manageable, not realistic, but is nowhere near as violent as like the fascists are.
[04:07:20] It's not, it's not violence at all unless you're a capital owner, at which point you think it's something worse than fucking death,
[04:07:26] which is to become a working class individual.
[04:07:31] A fate worse than death.
[04:07:33] An unimaginable trigger warning for the petite bourgeois, and the capital owning class I said, you know, you might have
[04:07:41] you might have a little bit of a quality you ever try being honest with yourself all the time baby
[04:07:49] Guess what I don't have to fucking sit in a room and constantly think oh, I should be honest with myself
[04:07:55] I'm honest with myself every day what you see is what you get
[04:07:58] I don't have to change my outward posture in any meaningful capacity
[04:08:02] That's why it's always really funny when people go Hassan this guy this guy is on as a socialist
[04:08:07] I thought he was just like, man, I thought he was a liberal.
[04:08:10] It's like, bitch, what do you mean?
[04:08:12] I say I'm a socialist all the damn time.
[04:08:17] Fuck you talking about.
[04:08:18] I even go so far as they, I don't give a shit if people call me a communist.
[04:08:21] Sure.
[04:08:22] Great.
[04:08:23] I think communism is an end point.
[04:08:24] It's fantastic.
[04:08:25] You know?
[04:08:26] It's awesome.
[04:08:27] What do you mean?
[04:08:28] You got a problem with the notion that we could evolve as a society into no longer having
[04:08:35] to worry about any sort of class, any sort of borders, any sort of money.
[04:08:40] That's great.
[04:08:41] I love that.
[04:08:42] That seems far better than what we have
[04:08:44] as an end-point under capitalism, right?
[04:08:52] You groomed the 37-year-old man,
[04:08:54] and son, will you ever take accountability?
[04:08:55] I know.
[04:09:02] What do you mean this guy hit his mouthbook
[04:09:04] when he first met, you think,
[04:09:04] But yeah, like, I don't give a shit.
[04:09:19] Your people's ideology tends to evolve as time passes, as they respond to the political
[04:09:26] forces that they're experiencing, that they're seeing.
[04:09:28] They look at different attempts towards building socialism.
[04:09:33] And maybe some of your positions hardened throughout that time.
[04:09:38] But ultimately, I've never actually shot away from my political world view at all, right?
[04:09:48] I testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
[04:09:50] I discussed the largest fraud in the history of US immigration system perpetrated.
[04:09:53] This is David J. Byer from Kdo Institute.
[04:09:56] This was, it's five minutes of absolute fucking bar as by the way.
[04:10:01] I mean, there are some moments where he's like a little libertarian and a little weird, but overall, you know, I love the fucking free movement libertarians.
[04:10:10] I love the anti-imperialist libertarians. Really, I love the anti-cop libertarians. They still exist and many of them work at the Kdo Institute.
[04:10:17] Obviously, take with the grain of salt to what he says about like what the true fraud is, right?
[04:10:31] the
[04:10:47] is now good for beginner left is readers are
[04:10:50] I mean he he has very simplistic pros
[04:10:53] it depends on what you're reading I guess
[04:10:57] China is just simply not applicable in the first world.
[04:11:01] So I wouldn't say, yes, I think you start with Lenin, you start with Karl Marx,
[04:11:07] you move into Lenin.
[04:11:09] And look, I've had a diverse ideological diet of red-corporate kin, I've read Chomsky,
[04:11:14] I read anarchist as well for the record before people fucking yell at me.
[04:11:21] But it depends on what you're trying to learn, it depends on what you're trying to understand.
[04:11:27] If you're trying to understand how modern China came about, what the processes were, but
[04:11:38] I would definitely say, yeah, Rosa Lugs and Burg is fantastic reformer revolution
[04:11:42] by Rosa Lugs and Burg is a great one for beginners.
[04:11:45] These guys love writing.
[04:11:47] They were intellectuals first and foremost before they were revolutionaries.
[04:11:50] Let's be fucking real.
[04:11:57] Don't read dust cop at all. I mean, that's dense. It's very, very dense and very, very, very heavy in theory. I mean, it's all theory. That's all it is.
[04:12:08] But analysis of analysis of the way that capitalism operates is probably one of the best.
[04:12:21] If it is the best. Let's be real. It's the best. Karl Marx analysis on how capitalism works is the best interpretation of capitalism is the best analysis of capitalism.
[04:12:30] It's just literally describing capitalism. That's what does capitalism is all about.
[04:12:36] Um, I like Parenti, um, uh, the super easy introductory, like American way of understanding
[04:12:51] like American imperialism.
[04:12:52] I would say Howard Zinn is great, read, read France for non, yes, I mean, as far as like
[04:13:06] reading mail or understanding like the now it's it's good to understand China and you must learn about
[04:13:13] mail to understand what you know what the conditions look like.
[04:13:24] So it'll ears by jacika. Okay, calm the fuck down. Okay.
[04:13:36] what's the good letting book all of them
[04:13:47] comment is manifesto enough for normies yes comment is manifesto is is super easy read
[04:13:52] it's nothing is like basically a fucking pamphlet
[04:13:58] uh...
[04:13:59] i'm just saying like
[04:14:00] diving in the mall out of nowhere and then like it trying to
[04:14:05] trying to appropriate Maoist thought,
[04:14:09] no, it's been tried before, especially in the Western world,
[04:14:13] in developed nations in the first world,
[04:14:15] it's not really applicable.
[04:14:17] The conditions are not even remotely similar.
[04:14:23] And the closest, like contemporary interpretation,
[04:14:26] or at least at the time, the closest interpretation,
[04:14:29] and the most successful application of Maoist
[04:14:31] thought was the Black Panther Party.
[04:14:33] And the reason why was because at the time, especially during the civil rights struggle,
[04:14:39] the conditions for black people were, I guess, like, one that you could interpret in a similar
[04:14:49] fashion to the peasant class, even though it still wasn't, it still was not a one-to-one
[04:14:57] comparison at all, and not only that, but also I would say that, yeah, if you're an
[04:15:08] American, it's a historical fascination, I think. I mean, don't get mad at me for saying
[04:15:14] this. I think it's very interesting, but at the end of the day, it's not, it's truly
[04:15:26] not applicable. It's not applicable at all. It also has the capacity to go very wrong
[04:15:34] if misinterpreted. And yeah. And Mao is just a, okay, dengist. That's crazy. Without Mao,
[04:15:53] There is no dang without dang. There is no fusion paying. This is an evolution that is ongoing
[04:16:05] Noris normies will never identify as pez is the treats are too good even though they're diminishing
[04:16:09] Normies are not even remote like Americans
[04:16:13] Listen, the labor aristocracy's material conditions do not even remotely resemble the peasant class in
[04:16:19] and fucking China in pre-PRC China, that is ridiculous, okay?
[04:16:29] It's not even a thing.
[04:16:34] It's not even close.
[04:16:37] You're not even remotely comparable, dude.
[04:16:42] The Panthers also identified as Marx's lens as well, so did Mao.
[04:16:49] The closest you can arrive in the continental United States, the closest you can arrive
[04:17:05] at like a Maoist rebellion would be the undocumented migrants.
[04:17:15] It's like the close conditions resembling the peasant class in this day and age.
[04:17:23] Not the not the fucking lump and pros in the Appalachia.
[04:17:28] Anyway, oh my god, one of the destructive group of letters asked them with the best book
[04:17:33] to start learning theory.
[04:17:34] All right, let's continue.
[04:17:38] Capitals, Realism, Techno, Futilism, and the Myth of American Idealism by Nathan J. Robinson,
[04:17:42] And another author, great for beginners.
[04:17:45] Yeah, I mean, the other author is Yannas Varrafakis.
[04:17:49] I'm with the subcommittee.
[04:17:50] Thank you for the opportunity to testify.
[04:17:53] For nearly half a century, the Kato Institute's
[04:17:55] research has shown the people of any ancestry,
[04:17:58] background or birthplace can be assets
[04:18:02] in a free society.
[04:18:04] America's immigrants exemplify this truth,
[04:18:08] despite often leaving terrible conditions abroad,
[04:18:12] immigrants work, start businesses,
[04:18:14] and invent at higher rates in the US foreign population.
[04:18:18] Oh, the other guy's Chomsky,
[04:18:19] yeah, the one with Nathan Robinson, yes.
[04:18:23] That's a fight.
[04:18:24] I forgot, I didn't understand the joke you were making.
[04:18:26] You're right.
[04:18:27] Nathan J. Robbson wrote that with Chomsky.
[04:18:29] I thought you were talking about,
[04:18:31] I thought you were talking about Janice Varfag, as a book.
[04:18:35] Cato's recent analysis shows that immigrants reduced deficits by 11 and a half trillion
[04:18:42] dollars over the last 30 years, including about 140 billion in Minnesota.
[04:18:50] Although welfare fraud is a serious problem, immigrants aren't to blame.
[04:18:55] Non-citizens account for just 5% of welfare fraud losses.
[04:19:01] 1% less per capita than U.S. citizens. Rather than targeting entire ethnic groups,
[04:19:08] Congress should end the broken welfare systems, namely the oversight free aid to states
[04:19:14] that led to all the fraud in Minnesota. But let's be clear, the H.S. is an anti-fraud.
[04:19:22] D.A.H.S. is itself openly carrying out the largest fraud in the history of the U.S. immigration
[04:19:28] system. DHS and the State Department are raking in billions of dollars in immigration fees
[04:19:35] and not providing the adjudications that applicants are entitled to. For individuals
[04:19:41] for over 90 countries, half of all legal immigrants. The administration is a libertarian though.
[04:19:48] He's a libertarian. He's a libertarian. He's a libertarian, but he's not wrong though,
[04:19:51] as far as the Department of Homeland Security conducting fraud by taking money from
[04:19:55] harder and dollars from immigrants and the american family members
[04:19:58] to refuse the fucking process them that is true speak on a king
[04:20:03] my goat now of course he goes back and forth and he's like
[04:20:07] all matter of uh... you know
[04:20:11] all of the regulatory forces in the federal government are technically doing
[04:20:16] fraud by existing now when you go there i'm like okay all
[04:20:22] Maybe you're a little crazy, but you know, but he's begun it.
[04:20:39] She's simply not processing their applications.
[04:20:43] The burden of proof is already on these applicants.
[04:20:46] DHS and state can deny anyone who fails to make their case.
[04:20:50] Instead, this administration is pocketing thousands of dollars from hard-working Americans
[04:20:57] and their relatives, including spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens, and they're
[04:21:04] not even looking at their applications.
[04:21:07] This is a scam.
[04:21:10] It is fraud.
[04:21:13] DHS's entire Minnesota operation is another kind of scam sold to the public on lies.
[04:21:20] DHS hasn't criminally charged anyone with fraud there, and 60% of its immigrant arrest
[04:21:25] in Minnesota have no criminal convictions or charges.
[04:21:29] DHS itself classifies just 8% of its arrests in Minnesota as the highest threat level.
[04:21:38] And three quarters of arrests, eight classifies as not being a threat at all.
[04:21:46] Instead of arresting fraudsters, it's seeking to jail 5,600 legal, dead-ed refugees.
[04:21:54] Nursing mothers, single parents, long-term residents, already dragged away from their families
[04:22:01] without any evidence of fraud at all.
[04:22:05] Rather than a law enforcer, DHS has become the biggest law breaker in America today.
[04:22:12] In less than a year, DHS has attacked the first, the second, the fourth, fifth, sixth,
[04:22:19] eighth, tenth, 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
[04:22:23] It's not we're going to go enjoy Canada, Dort.
[04:22:25] Man, what do you talk about?
[04:22:26] I'm literally about the bill of speech.
[04:22:29] The Red of Havius Corpus, the independent judiciary, and much more.
[04:22:34] Every day, masked, DHS agents to tame Americans based on their race and demographics.
[04:22:42] They arrest legal immigrants for criticizing their foreign policy and Americans for recording
[04:22:50] them doing it.
[04:22:52] They threaten assault and even shoot people for exercising their first and their second
[04:22:58] amendment rights.
[04:23:00] They break into our homes without judicial warrants.
[04:23:03] They sentence legal immigrants to foreign prisons
[04:23:07] without trials.
[04:23:09] They are trying to strip the citizenship
[04:23:13] of Americans born in this country.
[04:23:17] They detain people without lawful basis
[04:23:19] and they ignore court orders to release them.
[04:23:23] And of course, they lie about all of it.
[04:23:27] Combating fraud and upholding the rule of law
[04:23:30] is important, but the public cannot have faith in that effort
[04:23:34] by administration that regularly gets away with fraud,
[04:23:38] lies, and lawlessness.
[04:23:41] Even the FBI supervisor and the 14 US attorneys in Minnesota
[04:23:45] who were responsible for leading the welfare fraud effort
[04:23:50] their lost faith.
[04:23:52] They quit because of the HSS operations there.
[04:23:57] we need accountability. The Supreme Court has said Congress has an authorized
[04:24:03] Americans to sue immigration agents for constitutional violations. So fix it.
[04:24:11] No more absolute immunity as the White House says. The new standard
[04:24:18] absolute accountability.
[04:24:20] anything fucking I mean he cooks he cooks even though he literally is like hey you want to cut
[04:24:28] You want to cut welfare fraud stop giving money to
[04:24:32] the states which is insane
[04:24:39] Like
[04:24:42] Listen to how shocks Senator Kennedy was I should clarify it more how it's actually three different overlapping policies the presidential visa ban
[04:24:50] and the USCIS benefits suspension in the state department
[04:24:52] and immigration visas suspension leading
[04:24:54] to the theft for applicants.
[04:24:56] Mr. Bire, I'm gonna show you my mind, right?
[04:24:59] It's Mr. Beer.
[04:25:00] Mr. Bire, I'm not saying your name, Rod.
[04:25:06] You struck me as a country bump, can Mr. Bire?
[04:25:09] No, I'm a simple countryfolk.
[04:25:12] I never seen nobody with glasses
[04:25:14] that had anything good thing to say, Mr. Bire.
[04:25:19] I'm a Rhodes scholar, by the way, went to Oxford.
[04:25:22] You heard of it?
[04:25:25] Now, I'm a illiterate country bump in Mr. Byr,
[04:25:28] but you look like a fella that knows what's going on.
[04:25:34] Mr. Beirut, I like beer, better.
[04:25:38] But as people do, tell me that,
[04:25:43] I think I heard you say that some people,
[04:25:47] people, some folks who've come to our country, and are trying to get status to say, to
[04:25:56] stay, have applied to the Department of Health of the DHS, and they paid money in DHS
[04:26:05] is doing nothing. Oh, that's right. Yep. There's still no, there's no applications. That's
[04:26:10] that's not something that's a pretty bold statement. I'm not saying you're wrong. I don't know.
[04:26:16] How many people were talking about?
[04:26:18] About half of the immigrant flow right now.
[04:26:21] 90 countries are affected by the...
[04:26:24] How many people was there?
[04:26:26] Well, it's at least 300,000 abroad and probably twice that.
[04:26:30] But you're sure that you have.
[04:26:32] 300,000 folks have gone to DHS to seek some kind of permanent status
[04:26:39] or semi-permanent status to stay.
[04:26:42] At least 300,000.
[04:26:43] the night-hate money, DHS, and DHS has done nothing.
[04:26:49] That's right, they're sitting on their application.
[04:26:51] Well, who are there with DHS?
[04:26:53] Who would DHS just do this?
[04:26:56] Oh, it's Joseph Edlow.
[04:26:57] He's in charge of Edlow.
[04:26:59] He came up with this policy to just...
[04:27:01] Who is he?
[04:27:02] He's the head of USC, I guess.
[04:27:04] Joseph Edlow was the head of USC, I was he came up with this policy.
[04:27:07] He actually worked.
[04:27:08] He is just...
[04:27:09] Slow down a minute.
[04:27:10] He's had too much coffee.
[04:27:12] He's at the edge of it.
[04:27:14] I'm just from the Jersey.
[04:27:15] I understand.
[04:27:16] I'm a great state, too.
[04:27:18] Who does she report to Secretary Noom, of course?
[04:27:22] Okay.
[04:27:25] Does Secretary Noom know?
[04:27:27] Well, I don't know what Secretary Noom knows,
[04:27:30] but she's aware of the General's
[04:27:33] Henry of the administration.
[04:27:34] What's the name?
[04:27:35] Joseph.
[04:27:38] I like that he is expressing the same level of shock
[04:27:41] shock and dismay that he did when he was reading smut on the congressional floor.
[04:27:48] Who are these people who Secretary now?
[04:27:56] Who's this Secretary now, I'm lady?
[04:27:59] What's next?
[04:28:00] You're going to time machine kill her, puppy?
[04:28:04] Why, I ought to.
[04:28:06] This is Edlow.
[04:28:07] Mr. Edlow, who says boss?
[04:28:10] secretary knew.
[04:28:12] Oh, okay, and you can knock him down all this.
[04:28:15] Oh, absolutely.
[04:28:16] They put out a memorandum saying we're not processing these people.
[04:28:22] Late, but my oldest brother, Lola Combo with Bob, he's gone from modern.
[04:28:25] The more left, my Irish Catholic mom always conservative and even voted Trump before.
[04:28:29] But it's now anti-Israel anti-Israel, and I said,
[04:28:30] purposely asked pronouns for pictures you care for.
[04:28:32] She's happy.
[04:28:33] I'm dating a palcinine.
[04:28:34] You always see people can change and it's true.
[04:28:36] So you and Welch are right.
[04:28:37] Hellia, also subtle, but not so subtle flex. I'm dating. Okay, Andrew.
[04:28:46] And Secretary Group. Okay, girlfriend, have her.
[04:28:49] It has involved as well when it comes to the station.
[04:28:51] And me, uh, that memo. I will absolutely send that to you.
[04:28:54] I want to play over. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I appreciate.
[04:28:58] My cousin works for USCIS and a department of proofs application.
[04:29:01] The department was cut in half. Half was sent to Eisenforceman.
[04:29:04] The department's already behind so many applications. Yeah.
[04:29:06] And then they fucking have the audacity to be like, well, come in the right way, brother. It's like, dude, you're arresting the people that are coming in the right way.
[04:29:16] Like, that's what's so fucking nutty about this. It's like, come in the right way, come in the right way. It's like, well, you're literally killing the right way.
[04:29:22] And then you're turning around and then actually killing the people.
[04:29:26] You're deported people that are coming the right way, doing the right things, making it virtually impossible to come in the right way anyway.
[04:29:33] way it's just it's just designed this way so that people have no options and then of course
[04:29:39] low and behold you have this side of the story where the the fucking dipshits that are being
[04:29:45] funded to brick this system that was already fundamentally broken uh brick it even further
[04:29:51] We're going around shooting people.
[04:30:03] Did the federal government lie in a statement it made about a Chicago woman shot multiple times by customs and boys?
[04:30:09] He's a resias, he's always yes.
[04:30:11] The troll agent.
[04:30:12] Today attorneys for Marama Martinez took the wraps off a troll of evidence they say proves it did.
[04:30:18] it did. And BC-5's Trellock, which I'll just keep joining us from the newsroom with the details.
[04:30:22] Charlie, there's a lot of evidence to take a look at here.
[04:30:25] There really is seven, three body cam videos, more than 200 pages of photos and texts.
[04:30:30] And you may remember that CBP chief, Craig Bavino, Homeland Security Director,
[04:30:34] Kristi Malm, we're quick to label Martinez as a domestic terrorist.
[04:30:38] Weeks later, all the charges against who were dropped.
[04:30:40] Her attorney say, this evidence shows why.
[04:30:44] We're going to make contact with our box and we are boxing.
[04:30:50] Federal agents recorded on their own body camera video that they want to shop Mer and
[04:30:55] Marmartina's five times.
[04:30:57] We've been struck with a truck.
[04:31:00] Now her attorneys have the permission of the courts to release this video and hundreds of
[04:31:04] pages of evidence that was to be used against her in court if the case had not been dismissed.
[04:31:09] You got to see why it matters why it matters that people can actually see the real evidence
[04:31:13] as opposed to the false claims by our government.
[04:31:15] I mean, we live in a strange time right now,
[04:31:17] where we cannot trust our federal government.
[04:31:20] That's what you're watching.
[04:31:24] I don't know if it's a strange time.
[04:31:25] I mean, I get saying that,
[04:31:30] because like, you know, it's,
[04:31:31] it gives you a stronger point here,
[04:31:34] but I don't know if it's a strange time.
[04:31:36] I mean, as a legal team laid out a series of statements,
[04:31:39] made about her by the government.
[04:31:41] statements they say the evidence disproves to have your own government call you something as
[04:31:46] hurtful and as harmful as a domestic terrorist when you know you're not it's just unacceptable.
[04:31:53] They say a martin as was among those who wanted to call for neighbors about ice and that she
[04:31:57] did carry a holster gun in the bottom of her purse but they deny she had tried to attack the
[04:32:02] officers pointing to shots that appears to windshield blew out her back window were a bag of clothes
[04:32:08] that she was on her way to donate can be seen.
[04:32:10] They point to a series of text between the officer
[04:32:12] of fire, the shots, and his posse,
[04:32:15] congratulating him on the shoot.
[04:32:16] And an email from then, CBP chief Greg Bavino,
[04:32:19] offering him a promotion.
[04:32:21] They don't know what a Marmar is going to live or die,
[04:32:23] and he's being promoted.
[04:32:24] I mean, that's disgusting.
[04:32:26] Now, Martinez is planning to bring a civil suit against that officer
[04:32:29] and his supervisors.
[04:32:30] Some of them can't be challenging
[04:32:32] when a federal agent is involved.
[04:32:34] We can't hold them accountable, monetarily.
[04:32:36] And we'll be asking for damages in the tens of millions of dollars when we do get our day in court.
[04:32:41] Martin is herself did not speak only addressing one question about being afraid.
[04:32:46] I am not afraid of anyone. She said in Spanish, the only thing I fear is God.
[04:32:53] And as far as Officer Exon, the person who did fire the shots into that car, they're
[04:33:12] easing the investigation into him according to the attorneys from Martinez, the customs
[04:33:16] and Border Patrol folks asked us to ask the Justice Department about that.
[04:33:20] reporting a lot of the newsroom. I'm Charlie for what you're asking stuff in
[04:33:23] Marion. Thank you. All right Charlie, we appreciate it. Thank you so much.
[04:33:27] Oh, no, backfenders.
[04:33:40] Hi, I'm curious. Nice to meet you.
[04:33:42] All pilots and people. Hello.
[04:33:43] Hi, I'm Joseph. Nice to meet you.
[04:33:45] How are the people?
[04:33:46] How are the people?
[04:33:47] All of these guys no longer call black Panthers, but like black lines or something as a national black Panther party, the historic continuation that I would say has become a a Fed coded version of what it once was.
[04:34:05] is now telling the Black Panther party to cut it out or these guys to cut it out because
[04:34:18] they're pro immigrant which is crazy because the Black Panther party is historically
[04:34:21] is a Maoist of Marxism is Maoist party.
[04:34:25] I'm sorry if you come in.
[04:34:30] Yeah, no, these guys are in the front.
[04:34:32] As far as I know, I don't think these guys are fed.
[04:34:35] But the, the,
[04:34:37] I don't know.
[04:34:41] I'm comfortable with this.
[04:34:43] I'm comfortable with this.
[04:34:46] I don't know.
[04:34:47] I don't think the party is so different.
[04:34:49] We met the Black Panther Party for self defense at their headquarters in Philadelphia.
[04:34:54] Okay, what's in there?
[04:34:57] 847 in the air.
[04:35:00] Their popularity has surge in recent weeks,
[04:35:02] especially following the death in Minneapolis
[04:35:05] of fronatical good, killed by an ice officer.
[04:35:08] Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here with the ice right here.
[04:35:13] You know, the United States of America hates this gun.
[04:35:16] This is a Polish AK-47.
[04:35:18] What's your message to ice?
[04:35:20] Fuck around and find out, try doing this shit to me.
[04:35:27] See what I had to look around, look around, look around, look what they do to our peoples.
[04:35:33] No matter what your skin color, your our peoples.
[04:35:36] And we're going to stay on right behind our peoples.
[04:35:39] Every means doesn't serve me.
[04:35:42] And that's what I mean, that power, all power to the people.
[04:35:47] The Black Panther Party for self defense draws inspiration from the Black Panther Party.
[04:35:53] This is the real Black Panther Party.
[04:35:54] They're continuing to be the original Black Panthers, not the psycho-opshoot, yeah.
[04:35:58] I know.
[04:35:59] No, these guys seem like, look, I'm shy about endorsements of the sort, but the other
[04:36:12] group that calls themselves the real continuation of the Black Panther Party, they're
[04:36:16] fucking weirdos, okay?
[04:36:18] These guys, I don't mind calling feds.
[04:36:24] These guys that are getting yelled at by these guys are the real deal.
[04:36:34] That makes sense.
[04:36:45] On the 1960s, in the United States, the movement rejected the idea of a nonviolent revolution
[04:36:52] and instead promoted arm-self defense to counter police files.
[04:36:56] Internal tensions and intense state repression led to the parties' dissolution in the early 1980s.
[04:37:04] Come stay in with the anesthetic.
[04:37:05] All problems and people all about you will be a part of it.
[04:37:10] Online, some people question whether Paul Brooks
[04:37:13] on truly has the legitimacy to carry on the mission of the Black Panthers.
[04:37:18] Others, fear that his approach could spark an escalation of violence.
[04:37:22] That wasn't a blood.
[04:37:24] They don't seem to have the numbers right. They always see them.
[04:37:26] I always see them as volunteers. What do you mean?
[04:37:27] All of this stuff starts with tiny numbers.
[04:37:31] I'm saying, and I knew eventually the revolution was going to catch it to me, but I ran from the front-long time.
[04:37:39] Birds always mentored by former members of the party. They were the ones that allowed him to use their logo and philosophy.
[04:37:46] In a state where open carry of firearms is legal.
[04:37:49] This is the black pin the party for self defense, right?
[04:37:52] Um, they have for itself the fence part is the pinnacle thing, you know what I'm saying?
[04:38:00] Like you have to attack us first, you throw one shot at me, I'm throwing 30 at you.
[04:38:05] Okay, just fine, even I thrive, like I lose the eyes.
[04:38:08] It's like, no what it is, it's like, it's like, it's like, I don't think any of the current parties
[04:38:12] are actual considerations, the original back plan to party died in the 90s after being merged into the rainbow
[04:38:16] coalition, a lot of groups now planned to be the successor.
[04:38:18] Some of we are right when groups, some are actually pretty basic, check my logs, yeah, I know.
[04:38:21] is a tricky area is a tricky area because there there are living breathing
[04:38:26] existing former black Panther members and and even their current politics is
[04:38:32] all over the fucking place. The original black Panther party was a Marxist
[04:38:37] Leninist malice formation okay they were very disciplined they were very
[04:38:41] organized and and they had a very clear message okay the OG Black Panther
[04:38:49] party that all the American government considered to be a, you know, a terrorist group
[04:38:57] basically, like that is very clear what they were. Now, a lot of the new formations
[04:39:05] of Black Panther Party in general, well, they've been, they've been all over the place.
[04:39:12] It doesn't matter. I care about what people do. Okay. I don't care about the, like, I will
[04:39:17] talk about the legacy of the black man to party, but I don't, but I care about what
[04:39:20] people do currently rather than like the identifiers or of their associations with
[04:39:26] the associations with like the historic continuation of the black man to party.
[04:39:33] Our training, our training is to make sure that if you do fire shot at us, you have
[04:39:39] you and nobody next to you to has your back has the ability to fire another shot going
[04:39:43] You know what I'm saying?
[04:39:45] You are already for that ready to.
[04:39:47] What are you like doing?
[04:39:49] What are you like doing?
[04:39:57] Is this a full-time job for most of you?
[04:39:59] Yes, you do.
[04:40:01] Every day.
[04:40:03] It's a lifestyle.
[04:40:05] 24-7.
[04:40:06] It's a lifestyle.
[04:40:07] It's a commitment.
[04:40:09] That's a goof.
[04:40:11] It's not in this grand auto that denounced berets long as the trustworthy and now I know that's why I said like
[04:40:16] That's why I said it doesn't it's it's whatever the BP you showed earlier is largely made of
[04:40:21] Hotheps and pan Africanists that removed the leftist Russel though. Did you party no they're not even pan Africanists no
[04:40:27] No
[04:40:29] No these guys are literally not even pan Africanists I think these guys are are our
[04:40:35] ADOS
[04:40:37] stands is, you know, there's a different formation. This is a different formation, I think.
[04:40:46] For illegal. Yeah, we're not like you're saying illegal's like, okay.
[04:40:52] Gonna step in front of that. That's not our fight. Yeah, these guys are just pure reactionary.
[04:40:59] They are. It is a mess. Oh, I thought they were FBA, foundational black America's or something, and not
[04:41:05] not uh... pan-African nationalists pan-African nationalism is an entirely separate subject
[04:41:12] more often than not pan-African nationalists are also Marxism sells not all of them are
[04:41:16] are i know there's a big saga
[04:41:19] talking about uh... pan-African nationalists not being Marxist or whatever it doesn't matter
[04:41:22] ultimately
[04:41:24] because they are anti-imperialist anti-colonial
[04:41:28] in their politics first and foremost
[04:41:30] FBA, ADOS, African descendants of slaves, foundational black Americans, those offshoots
[04:41:37] are pure reactionary formations that have nothing to do with pan African nationalism in general.
[04:41:43] As a matter of fact, they kind of separate themselves from that movement in its entirety.
[04:41:51] They literally don't even like development in Africa in general. They think like
[04:41:55] like they have a whole bunch of different ideas.
[04:41:59] It's too complicated to get into.
[04:42:03] We're not going to step into that fight.
[04:42:07] Going through the community, depending on-
[04:42:10] But yeah, whenever you see someone that calls themselves a black panther or something,
[04:42:14] but then they turn around and they like regurgitate reactionary propaganda about migrants.
[04:42:19] At a time when like the migrants that are in the cross-airs are more often than not black migrants.
[04:42:24] not black migrants as well. Just understand that they have no consistent world view,
[04:42:29] they have no coherent position, they're not, you know, they're just silly, they're silly
[04:42:35] reactionaries.
[04:42:36] Somebody's anything, you guys, we didn't even want to be here. You know what I mean? We got
[04:42:39] brought over here, we didn't want to be here. And this is a problem we've had since
[04:42:42] our shackled feet of hit the soil. So we've always had the SWAT teams coming in our communities,
[04:42:49] doing whatever they're doing and sometimes just they do pick up the wrong people with things
[04:42:53] that nature. This is the same situation as just
[04:42:55] do this. Come on, bro. Come on. Come on, bro.
[04:43:00] Yeah, sometimes what comes into our communities and picks up the wrong people, it is what it is like Jesus Christ.
[04:43:07] Got a different name. It's a rate. It's just a different name.
[04:43:11] And so yeah, we're not in that fight. But as far as our other brown folks and things like that,
[04:43:17] we do stand up and defend the citizens and the poor and the things like that.
[04:43:22] and the things like that. But as far as illegal immigration, yeah, we really, that's not our fight.
[04:43:27] That's not something we need to get into. Our stance is, you know, for illegal's. We're not
[04:43:33] for illegal's. Yeah. And for how long we'll be doing this. For how long will we be doing this?
[04:43:41] For how long will we be doing this? Yeah.
[04:43:43] This is different.
[04:43:45] That I just showed you is a totally separate.
[04:43:51] That this is totally separate from that other thing that I showed you.
[04:43:58] These people at least from my assessment from afar, and I haven't looked into it too much.
[04:44:05] But from my initial like first hand glass, they seem to be more serious and closer to the original
[04:44:13] Black Panther party than any other group that I have seen.
[04:44:17] I was a Black Panther.
[04:44:18] Let by Paul Bergman.
[04:44:20] You're going all the way to Black Panther.
[04:44:21] That's my grandfather.
[04:44:22] I'm going all the way to Black Panther.
[04:44:24] I know that's why I said it's in my blood.
[04:44:25] Literally.
[04:44:26] Yeah.
[04:44:27] Yeah.
[04:44:28] Okay.
[04:44:29] We go, okay.
[04:44:30] And he's at it.
[04:44:31] And he's at it.
[04:44:32] He loves literally.
[04:44:33] So what's the part now?
[04:44:35] We'll put someone.
[04:44:36] All right.
[04:44:37] We'll watch the channel and we'll be saying, yeah,
[04:44:41] And I heard near you.
[04:44:43] Let's see who we are.
[04:44:45] You know what I'm saying?
[04:44:46] You guys, it's your first day.
[04:44:47] So brothers, this is going to make you want to some lethal
[04:44:49] as some of the fucking revolutionaries.
[04:44:51] If you're scared of that, walk away.
[04:44:54] But if you're ready to stuff to that car,
[04:44:56] tired of this shaking ready to actually do something about it,
[04:44:59] we're going to share with the fuck out of you.
[04:45:04] With rising tension around ice operations in Minneapolis,
[04:45:08] the founders have increased the number of patrols
[04:45:10] patrols and intensify the recruitment. Their goal is to protect the community against
[04:45:15] all forms of police violence.
[04:45:19] Dring the election campaign Donald Trump promised to carry out the largest
[04:45:23] mass deportation in US history. Over the past year, his administration says it has
[04:45:29] deported more than 65,000 undocumented immigrants.
[04:45:40] I mean, yes, the fucking will, the wrong because it's like they think they're above the law
[04:45:48] They can do the fuck they work because that's cool
[04:45:50] They think they're above the law because Trump's stupid ass come on now. How you want wave war on your old fucking country
[04:46:01] Because these cops ain't doing that for us
[04:46:04] I know cousin almost got a break to two nights ago
[04:46:07] Where oh
[04:46:09] on the forest tree line.
[04:46:11] We'll be on the forest tree line for no one.
[04:46:14] I'm sorry, I appreciate you.
[04:46:15] I really appreciate you all.
[04:46:16] I've been waiting to see you all.
[04:46:17] I hurt.
[04:46:18] I got a bin.
[04:46:19] Don't want to talk about it.
[04:46:20] I appreciate you all.
[04:46:22] Thank you.
[04:46:23] Tonight, tonight, after the patrol,
[04:46:25] when we start the patrol, we'll go get on the line
[04:46:27] and write it down in the room.
[04:46:33] That's what I'm going in.
[04:46:35] During the patrol, the panters
[04:46:36] off for their traditional smoothie break.
[04:46:39] You know, over the last couple of weeks we've had a lot of people reaching out.
[04:46:43] But this is where my inbox looks like.
[04:46:45] And this is just twenty minutes ago and how we're going to go.
[04:46:49] Three hours ago, four hours ago, ten hours ago, six hours ago.
[04:46:54] Back in the headquarters, someone hoping to join the Black Panthers was waiting for birth
[04:47:09] something.
[04:47:10] And the short time we spent with the party has happened at least five times.
[04:47:14] No one is going to be there to protect us.
[04:47:16] We all have to protect ourselves as well as our loved ones.
[04:47:20] is everything is happening right now. It's just...
[04:47:24] It's just...
[04:47:30] You have around how many men can you tell me like approximately?
[04:47:34] Uh, a little under 100.
[04:47:36] Okay.
[04:47:37] I feel it.
[04:47:38] I was hearing about it.
[04:47:40] Here, I'll give you the original 10-point program.
[04:47:43] And then I'll give you the current black Panther party that we're looking at.
[04:47:46] The black Panther Party for self defense 10-point program.
[04:47:49] you can figure out whether they have liberalized or not.
[04:47:53] Okay.
[04:47:55] Original 10 point program established by Bobby Sealy,
[04:47:57] he we, Newton, is, is QAP, Newton and Bobby Sealy in 1966
[04:48:05] for the Black Panther Party.
[04:48:08] It was a living document, multiple versions of it were published, published.
[04:48:11] We want freedom, we want power to determine the destiny of our
[04:48:13] Black and oppressed communities.
[04:48:15] We believe that Black and oppressed people will not be free until we are able to determine
[04:48:17] our destinies and our own communities, ourselves by fully controlling all the institutions
[04:48:22] which exist in our communities and we want full employment for our people. We believe that
[04:48:26] the federal government is responsible and obligated to give every person employment or a guaranteed
[04:48:30] income. We believe that if the American businessman will not give full employment then the
[04:48:36] technology and means the production should be taken from the businesses and placed in the
[04:48:40] community so that the people of the community can organize and employ all of its people and give a
[04:48:44] the high standard of living.
[04:48:49] We want to end the robbery by the capitalists of our black and press communities.
[04:48:54] We believe that this racist government has robbed us and are now demanding the overdue
[04:48:58] debt of 40 acres and two mules.
[04:49:00] 40 acres and two mules were promised 100 years ago as a restitution for slave labor and
[04:49:05] mass murder of black people.
[04:49:07] We will accept the payment and currency which will be distributed to our many communities.
[04:49:11] The Germans murdered 6 million Jews, the American races has taken part in the slaughter
[04:49:15] of over 50 million black people, therefore we feel this is a modest demand that we make.
[04:49:20] A little bit ton of his decodes there.
[04:49:23] We want these in housing, fit for the shelter of human beings.
[04:49:26] We believe that the landlords will not give decent housing to our black and press communities.
[04:49:31] Then the housing in the land should be made into cooperatives so that the people in our communities
[04:49:35] with the government aid can build and make decent housing for the people.
[04:49:40] We want education for our people that exposed to the true nature of this decadent American
[04:49:44] society.
[04:49:45] We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in present-day society.
[04:49:50] We believe in the educational system that will give to our people a knowledge of self,
[04:49:54] if you do not have knowledge of yourself and your position in society and in the world,
[04:49:58] then you will have little chance to know anything else.
[04:50:00] We want all black men to be exempt from military service.
[04:50:04] We believe that black people should not be forced to fight in the military service to
[04:50:06] defend the racist government that does not protect us.
[04:50:08] We will not fight or kill other people of color in the world who, like black people, are being victimized by the white racist government of America.
[04:50:15] We will protect ourselves from the force and violence of the racist police, and the racist military by whatever means necessary, alternative.
[04:50:24] We want completely free healthcare for all black and oppressed people.
[04:50:27] We want an immediate end to police brutality in the murder of black murder of black people in the United States.
[04:50:32] We want freedom for all black men, held in federal state country, our county and city prisons and jails.
[04:50:38] We want an immediate end to all wars of aggression.
[04:50:44] We want freedom for all black and poor oppressed people now held in U.S. federal state
[04:50:48] county city and military prisons and jails.
[04:50:51] We want trials by jury appears.
[04:50:53] The reason why they're talking about like not serving in the military is because remember,
[04:50:57] this is time specific.
[04:51:00] Okay.
[04:51:02] Some of the quotes are of course, some of the demands are of course timeless, especially
[04:51:05] because the racial wounds have not healed, never been addressed, but others, specifically
[04:51:12] are, are demands being made around Vietnam being sent the prison for refusing to, to participate
[04:51:19] in the draft.
[04:51:22] Just understand that.
[04:51:29] We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice, peace, and the people's community
[04:51:33] control of modern technology. This is the governing document. The current Black Panther
[04:51:42] Party for self defense 10 point program from Paul Bird's song is we want power freedom
[04:51:47] to determine our own socially economical educational destiny and the establishment
[04:51:50] home and for descendants of American slaves. We want an actual ethnic identity as opposed
[04:51:54] to being labeled and being lumped in with people who aren't. Wait, what? No, this isn't the right one.
[04:51:58] is it? Is this actually Paul Bird's song shit?
[04:52:09] No, I don't think this is uh...
[04:52:22] It is the right one way he's like a fucking a radio S guy
[04:52:29] Oh, what the fuck
[04:52:33] It is this is his account, isn't it?
[04:52:38] Yeah, now it's called the black lion party for international solidarity
[04:52:43] That's a bit weird
[04:52:48] Anyway
[04:52:52] We want to actually, I think, identity, we want to reparations that we want them
[04:52:56] to be tax exempt.
[04:52:57] We want disenfranchisement of our people to be illegalized and ended immediately.
[04:53:00] We want the federal rent subsidy to be created, target and decrease the black homelessness
[04:53:04] crisis in America.
[04:53:05] We want decent housing for shelter human beings.
[04:53:07] We want the immediate illegalization of red line monopolies and ethnic cleansing
[04:53:10] and gentrification of black communities.
[04:53:12] We want lineage specific education and free admission to any and all schools established to be
[04:53:16] the slave trader slave labor.
[04:53:17] We want federally funded financial aid for all HBCUs.
[04:53:20] to be one exemption for all second amendment all anti second amendment legislation
[04:53:24] we want federally funded felony forgiveness program that offers pre-release job training
[04:53:28] I mean even a lot of the demands are like the water down
[04:53:34] we want immediate end of the police brutality we want black police and black communities across America
[04:53:47] We want police to only be a lot of the patrol communities they live in. Okay, that last part is good
[04:53:54] But yeah, they had to like change the name of their movement because the Black Panther party said no, that's not
[04:54:01] All positive people
[04:54:03] Has everyone knows on purpose
[04:54:05] I got a message from Aaron Dixon today saying that he no longer supports us
[04:54:10] that after he gave me orders to make a video saying to him and other members were
[04:54:16] coming, the he would really support. And he said that this situation is
[04:54:24] important to him, even though my comments have missed their lives and spent thousands
[04:54:29] of hours of their time and dollars in life, a family behind a cause. You know, he
[04:54:36] He said he's going to make a statement saying no one has the right to call himself a black
[04:54:40] pamphlet going forward.
[04:54:42] I told him to make sure that he pointed that statement that he did, in fact, give us the
[04:54:46] right to call ourselves that because I still have the messages where he did, just in case
[04:54:50] he doesn't.
[04:54:51] And I put in there also, I'm sure that he put in there, and he doesn't give us the right
[04:54:55] of where he doesn't look because I still have the messages where that happened to.
[04:54:59] But as a stance, because of that, because of me and my comrades whist in our lives and
[04:55:04] the heat that we went under because of the counter-revolutionary practices, because we don't
[04:55:09] believe in black nationalism, like Bobby Seale said in the video that I shared on my page
[04:55:14] earlier, the black nationalism is acquiesce of racism, and then we don't stand like that,
[04:55:18] and they were internationalists and you know, communists is like, he would know and say,
[04:55:22] okay, but I don't understand, so they're internationalists, but also at the same time they're
[04:55:26] saying like, we want a specific designation between African descendants of slaves as opposed
[04:55:30] to all black people.
[04:55:34] In any case, I also don't like that, I don't know, I just, I'm in support of anybody
[04:55:46] that's trying to fight back against this government, you know what I mean?
[04:55:49] That's my position.
[04:55:51] So, good on them.
[04:55:56] that we were no longer an enterprise with this flag.
[04:55:59] We were no longer identified ourselves as a Black Panther Party
[04:56:02] for substance offense.
[04:56:04] We're going to take O.G. from the town's advice.
[04:56:07] We're going to take a name that he decided to put out there.
[04:56:11] We're going to call ourselves the Black Lion Party
[04:56:13] for international solidarity.
[04:56:15] Reason for international solidarity
[04:56:17] is because we will stand with the immigrants.
[04:56:19] We will stand with the people being terrorized by ICE.
[04:56:22] We will stand with any oppressed people across the world.
[04:56:24] We will keep feeding every single day. Keep offering food every single day.
[04:56:28] We will keep controlling the community with gun. We will keep stopping drug dealers.
[04:56:32] Keep stopping the sex traffickers. We will keep stopping police brutality.
[04:56:38] This is a little plaque that I got. This says Paul Berdson and his a panther says since 2020.
[04:56:44] I don't regret the work that I've done because the problem is to this point.
[04:56:49] We're going forward. His pad depends is when no longer be on my room.
[04:56:54] me and my calm right at standing in the
[04:56:57] pendant. We're willing to work with
[04:56:59] any organization that stands for the rights
[04:57:01] of every living person. Any organization that stands
[04:57:05] against imperialism and attacking immigrants.
[04:57:07] Now, if you're out here right in
[04:57:09] people and killing people in the same way.
[04:57:11] This stuff is good. Like this stuff is actually
[04:57:13] valid. It's good.
[04:57:15] You know?
[04:57:16] There was stuff like that. Yeah, the poor
[04:57:18] done. What are those people like?
[04:57:20] There's a lot of hard trying to provide for
[04:57:22] I'm just trying to skip and just wait, what the fuck?
[04:57:28] You mean, my crime has been independent, where women have worked with any organization,
[04:57:33] it stands for the rights of every living person, any organization that stands against imperialism,
[04:57:39] and attacking immigrants?
[04:57:40] Now, if you're out here, rape and people, killing people and selling drugs and there were stuff like that,
[04:57:45] yeah, deport them.
[04:57:46] Yeah.
[04:57:47] Those people like it, they're just working hard trying to provide for their families trying to skip and go,
[04:57:51] to support them, so I, well, you know, there in the car to work for the Stanley New
[04:57:57] Crunchy's to come for that promise of the American dream, the United States of American
[04:58:01] corporate and lies about, we feel that they should be bothered and women understand
[04:58:05] besides them to ensure that they're not all powers of the people, all powers of the
[04:58:10] people, all of the things that are being opened.
[04:58:12] Most of the non-Based O.G. Black Panther Party political line was it was legit the most
[04:58:16] baseball political movement this country has ever had. There's a reason even third world
[04:58:18] Marks' movements respect them. This is why it's really huge task to claim their legacy. I feel
[04:58:23] like it's much easier to just make something new and say you're inspired by the Black Panther
[04:58:26] parties. Still got to respect the grind though. Yeah. Yeah, there is nothing. It's it's it's fucking
[04:58:34] it's hard to it's hard to compare God American politics just to be so much more radical
[04:58:42] straight up. January 31st, you still come out. You know, we wanted to sit down and talk about
[04:58:48] So I'm there. You sit down and talk about the unification. Anyway, we looked through the 10 points. It was fine. Like it's what it felt like I said.
[04:58:59] In the US kids are eating lunch and school right now because of black Panthers. Yep.
[04:59:06] Please read my logs regarding ADOS is because there's a tonic of future than the black community about why some of these names are chosen.
[04:59:12] This came to a head three years ago during the updating process
[04:59:16] ADOS has been somewhat co-opted by a some black people who wanted to differentiate themselves from African immigrants
[04:59:21] This was because of the ongoing misconceptions some immigrants have about black people who do not immigrate here
[04:59:25] over all I think they're hard as in the right place it's hard not to to get that take away from the way they're talking about it and it's high the black man to parties free breakfast school
[04:59:47] Breakfast for School of Children program fed over 10,000,000 children every day across the United States.
[05:00:08] Ice recruitment, they like triple their budget.
[05:00:11] They recruited more than 10,000 people.
[05:00:14] I'm worried that's why you need to reflect this.
[05:00:17] But then there's escalation.
[05:00:18] That's always the question.
[05:00:19] Do you believe in nonviolent revolution?
[05:00:22] It's possible, but the threat of violence has to be there.
[05:00:25] But I mean, if Trump sends like hundreds of ice agents, are you ready for that?
[05:00:31] Absolutely.
[05:00:32] Yeah?
[05:00:33] At night, the Parvars patroled one of the city's main sub-wheelers.
[05:00:51] They could inspect her, let them in for free.
[05:01:01] I see him again.
[05:01:02] I just take the right back upstairs.
[05:01:09] The pigs came down here to sit down and try to...
[05:01:12] They couldn't, they came because people had guns.
[05:01:14] And then they went back upstairs because the black paint
[05:01:16] just got guns, the name was shit about them.
[05:01:18] Not as soon as I saw who it was, they took on.
[05:01:21] They didn't want to fight, man, they don't want to fight, man.
[05:01:27] It fell in Delphiya. Open Carrie is legal, and most public spaces,
[05:01:31] for those who hold a license to carry fire on this.
[05:01:34] Oh, Black Panther Squad is back.
[05:01:36] You know, for real, why is she guys spreading?
[05:01:40] I mean, what's the book?
[05:01:42] Black liberation. Black liberation?
[05:01:45] I thought I was a new boy at all.
[05:01:48] Yeah.
[05:01:49] Wow.
[05:01:50] Nice name on here.
[05:01:52] Like walking out here.
[05:01:53] Yeah.
[05:01:54] Because they come on train.
[05:01:55] So imagine they came out here looking at murder.
[05:01:57] And they saw you.
[05:01:58] And they wanted to do it.
[05:01:59] Guys were afraid that the police is going to stop.
[05:02:02] Confunding you guys.
[05:02:04] The police are...
[05:02:05] Is this legal?
[05:02:06] The police are terrified of us.
[05:02:07] What are you doing?
[05:02:08] Yeah.
[05:02:09] The police are terrified of us.
[05:02:10] We make them leave.
[05:02:11] We make them move.
[05:02:12] We were close to take off.
[05:02:15] I don't want to get chumped.
[05:02:19] I don't want to get chumped.
[05:02:20] I don't want to get chumped.
[05:02:23] But I need to stop them.
[05:02:26] We're fine.
[05:02:28] We're fine.
[05:02:29] We're fine.
[05:02:30] All right, cool guys.
[05:02:34] Thank you.
[05:02:36] Y'all heard.
[05:02:37] He's the chairman, man.
[05:02:38] He's faithful to people.
[05:02:39] I don't have a voice, man.
[05:02:41] And I mean, these big facts, man.
[05:02:43] For the people that come to the family's self,
[05:02:45] you have to say, let's go another out of power to the people.
[05:02:47] All right.
[05:02:48] We contacted the city of Philadelphia
[05:02:50] and its police department for comments
[05:02:52] on the presence of the Black Panther Party
[05:02:54] for self defense on their streets.
[05:02:56] It did not respond.
[05:02:58] So far, there have been no major ice operations
[05:03:01] in Philadelphia.
[05:03:03] Meanwhile, the party is gaining momentum
[05:03:05] and spreading to other cities like Boston and New York.
[05:03:08] A few days after with a Philadelphia, Paul Burtzon released a video.
[05:03:13] Paul Burtzon's former mentor and a member of the original Black Panthers Aaron Dixon,
[05:03:20] who had supported the use of the Black Panther name with Drew his support for the group.
[05:03:25] As a result, the group renamed itself the Black Lion Party for international solidarity,
[05:03:31] though its mission and activities remain unchanged.
[05:03:38] New fallout from that combative five hour hearing with Attorney General Pam Bondi on Capitol
[05:03:47] Hill.
[05:03:48] Press by lawmakers on both sides about the investigation and to convict the sex offender
[05:03:52] Jeffrey Epstein.
[05:03:53] We're going to tell me.
[05:03:54] I did tell you because you saw what you did in the center of law you're not even
[05:03:59] lawyer.
[05:04:00] Interopiting statement Bondi addressing the survivors of Epstein's abuse.
[05:04:03] I am deeply sorry for what any victim, any victim, has been through, especially as a result
[05:04:10] of that monster.
[05:04:11] Some of those victims see to just a few rows behind Bondi, but she did not address
[05:04:16] them.
[05:04:17] Please raise your hands if you have still not been able to meet with this department of justice.
[05:04:26] Please know for the record that every single survivor has raised their hand.
[05:04:31] as if she would apologize to the women for the DOJ's initial failure to redact all victim's
[05:04:36] names from the documents released.
[05:04:38] It is about you taking responsibility for your department of justice and the harm that
[05:04:44] it has done to the survivors who are standing right behind you and are waiting for you
[05:04:51] to turn to them and apologize.
[05:04:53] Be it turning general defiance.
[05:04:54] We need to interrupt the matter with this woman.
[05:04:56] This woman, the chief's going to be actually at me.
[05:04:59] As Bondi faced questions from Congress when Primila Jaiampal photographers capturing this
[05:05:03] image, Bondi holding what appears to be a list of what Jaiampal searched in the Epstein
[05:05:08] files when she gave the unredacted documents at the Department of Justice.
[05:05:12] This morning, Jaiampal accused Bondi of spying on her, saying it is totally inappropriate
[05:05:17] and against the separation of powers for the DOJ to serve bail us as we search the
[05:05:21] Epstein files.
[05:05:23] during the hearing Republican congressman Thomas Massey,
[05:05:25] who co-sponsored the bill that led to this.
[05:05:27] Were there any of this folk clothing store here
[05:05:28] come through and get a suit?
[05:05:29] Okay, well, that's not gonna happen.
[05:05:42] What do we think, Chat?
[05:05:46] It's a little bit tight on the legs, unfortunately.
[05:05:49] Is that a clip on tight?
[05:05:50] No, it's not a clip on tight.
[05:05:51] I went to, I went to school in Turkey, dressed up for Canada, fuck you, just caught a fellow
[05:06:03] writer on the DC Metro watching the stream.
[05:06:05] We are everywhere.
[05:06:06] Yeah, we're going to be leaving soon to go to the University of British Columbia, but this
[05:06:14] is the fit.
[05:06:16] And these are the shoes.
[05:06:21] Look at his tight.
[05:06:26] So I don't know.
[05:06:51] What a tight.
[05:07:18] You
[05:07:48] I was wondering if I should wear this, or if I should wear the turtle neck that I had with the black outfit that I had.
[05:08:16] I feel like most people are going to want to, most people are going to say this, right?
[05:08:27] Not completely ruined it by wearing the Doc Martins.
[05:08:29] Now I've got the YSL's, whatever you're most comfortable in, you're blue.
[05:08:41] You're the blue.
[05:08:42] We're voting no matter who logs important.
[05:08:44] Thank you.
[05:08:45] Anyway, um, yeah, let's continue.
[05:08:50] I don't feel very comfortable in this, but it's fine.
[05:08:53] I think I can, I can suffer through it for a little bit.
[05:09:07] Where a barrel drip is bourgeois decadence?
[05:09:10] We saw the files asking Bobby why certain names a powerful men were initially redempted.
[05:09:16] In 40 minutes, Wester's name was added back then 40 minutes of re-catching you red handed.
[05:09:23] Red Hat Joe is one redaction.
[05:09:26] Are he for instance a cop who's looking for a black hat?
[05:09:29] And we invited you in.
[05:09:31] We in this guy has Trump arrangements syndrome.
[05:09:34] He needs to be your a failed politician.
[05:09:36] Democrats pressing about President Trump's
[05:09:38] Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik, who after
[05:09:40] insisting he had nothing to do with
[05:09:42] Epstein, testified that he had visited
[05:09:44] Epstein's private island with his family
[05:09:46] while after Epstein was convicted of
[05:09:48] sense crimes.
[05:09:49] Has the Justice Department asked Secretary
[05:09:52] Lutnik about his ties to Epstein?
[05:09:54] Excuse me.
[05:09:57] Secretary Lutnik has addressed those ties himself.
[05:10:01] I'm asking you, has the Justice Department
[05:10:04] specifically asked Secretary Ludnick about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
[05:10:09] He has addressed those ties himself.
[05:10:12] The Congresswoman demanding to know answers.
[05:10:15] The American people have a right to know the answers to this.
[05:10:18] These are senior officials in the Trump administration.
[05:10:21] This is not a game, Secretary.
[05:10:24] I can't believe she tried to tell her that she was anti-Semitic.
[05:10:29] Like a pro israel.
[05:10:32] Jewish person, who has a pro-Israel Jewish person who has literally a immediate
[05:10:45] family ofers that died in the Holocaust, and in Pam Bondi tried to hit the your anti-Semitic
[05:10:50] line on her. That is crazy. I'm attorney general. My apologies. I couldn't tell.
[05:11:02] so quite feisty there and lawmakers also asking why Jeffrey F. Seen's co-conspirator
[05:11:08] Glenn Maxwell was moved to a low security prison after speaking with the deputy attorney
[05:11:13] general Todd Blanch once served as the president's personal lawyer now bond.
[05:11:17] Yeah, oh, the Israel Alive, we're hoping to push the Jews the past three years is roughly
[05:11:21] and now I guess the woke Democrats approach African American Latinos that is lecture
[05:11:24] you almost good for you. And if you don't agree with us, you ain't black.
[05:11:26] Zahid has culture war brain poison. Okay.
[05:11:30] Don't ask him on anything that's culture war related. He will always take it back to Wilkes somehow
[05:11:37] It's just it is what it is, okay?
[05:11:40] He as the attorney general said that she did not know why she says she hopes that Maxwell dies in prison
[05:11:46] But Maxwell has made it absolutely clear. She wants clemency and President Trump has not ruled that out Michael
[05:11:51] Yeah, so many questions
[05:11:53] You're completely unanswered there Rachel. Thank you so much for that
[05:11:56] Billions a page of documents related to Jeff
[05:11:58] Okay, there's allegations, probably a new Epstein, New Mexico Ranch
[05:12:03] investigation, but I do want to talk about Tumblr, if five children
[05:12:08] want to adult killed at school, one child want to adult killed in a home, and
[05:12:13] the 18-year-old shooter, that, please say, by her own gun.
[05:12:17] An individual confirmed to be the shooter was located deceased with what
[05:12:21] appeared to be a self-inforged gunshot wound.
[05:12:24] There are very few places in the entire country that have ever seen mass shooting violence
[05:12:30] like this.
[05:12:31] How is this possible?
[05:12:33] In Tumblr, in Tumblr Bridge, it's just completely unfathomable.
[05:12:37] So in Tumblr Ridge BC, tiny remote town, some 2,400 people living in the footbills
[05:12:43] of the rockets.
[05:12:44] This was seismic, and for the first 24 hours, almost completely opaque.
[05:12:49] It wouldn't be fair to speculate on that, we're still making those determinations.
[05:12:53] I think we will struggle to determine the why.
[05:12:56] And now we know this is back to Chudor, more about her history with police, more about her victims,
[05:13:02] and more about the sequence of events.
[05:13:04] Let's go through.
[05:13:10] The alarm went off that I never heard before, and our principal goes here at the halls
[05:13:15] and she's saying people close your doors locked down.
[05:13:17] What we know of the story from the RCMP is that it starts at one end of town
[05:13:22] and ends at the other. We know the most about the ending. That's here,
[05:13:26] Tumblr Ridge Secondary School, student population somewhere around 160.
[05:13:31] At around 120 p.m. Pacific Time, police get a call.
[05:13:35] Our CMP received a report of an active shooter at Tumblr Ridge Secondary School.
[05:13:39] And alert goes out describing the shooter as a female suspect in a dress with brown hair,
[05:13:45] the standing order to the public shelter in place. Because when police arrived,
[05:13:50] they themselves were immediately in danger. Upon arrival, there was active gunfire and as officers
[05:13:56] approached, the school rounds were fired in their direction. From this point, we learned three
[05:14:00] important things from police. One, they never shot back. The shooter appeared to kill herself at some
[05:14:07] point after police arrived. Two, there were casualties, more than 20 people with injuries, at
[05:14:13] least two of them life threatening and six people dead. One of them, an educator at the school,
[05:14:19] The other five kids, some as young as 12.
[05:14:22] Most of our victims are quite young.
[05:14:24] Most were born in, uh, uh, of the students.
[05:14:27] Most were born, uh, 2013 and 2012.
[05:14:30] Then the third thing we learned,
[05:14:32] police also found guns, plural,
[05:14:35] a long gun and a modified pistol.
[05:14:38] Guns we would later learn.
[05:14:39] The shooter may have had a license to use at one point,
[05:14:42] except at the time of the shooting,
[05:14:44] her license had already expired,
[05:14:46] at least a full-year prior.
[05:14:47] I believe it was in 2024.
[05:14:50] She did not have any firearms registered to her.
[05:14:53] But I said earlier, the school victims found in the hallway in the library,
[05:14:58] this was the end of the story.
[05:15:01] Police say it started at some point earlier,
[05:15:04] at this home right here, about a two-kilometer drive away.
[05:15:07] This is where police would only later find two more bodies,
[05:15:11] those belonging to the shooters' mother and step-rather.
[05:15:14] And we were called because a neighbor, there was a young female at that home that
[05:15:20] I'm going to be honest, it just has the workings. It looks like it has the workings of a
[05:15:26] order of nine angles style or radicalization. Right off the jump. As soon as like people
[05:15:35] started speculating that the shooter was trans, I was like, oh, there it is.
[05:15:38] like another terror-gram hit seemingly, but we'll see, went to the neighbors and that's how
[05:15:50] we learned that there were two deceased of that residents. So the neighbor called the police.
[05:15:55] It's not the fact that the shooting rampage started in the family's home, then moved to
[05:16:05] and ended at the local high school.
[05:16:07] We know from the RCMP a few more things.
[05:16:10] What is the order of non-angles?
[05:16:13] There have been instances.
[05:16:20] There have been instances where people
[05:16:26] get radicalized on these sorts of like insane.
[05:16:30] The government's official designation is like anti,
[05:16:33] I mean, the government's designation is like violent,
[05:16:36] nihilistic extremists.
[05:16:38] Order of nine angles is like a white nationalist front
[05:16:42] that focuses on like radicalizing people.
[05:16:49] Is like a cult, occultist Nazi,
[05:16:52] like occultist satanic, esoteric Nazi ideology.
[05:17:03] they they they recruit through roblox
[05:17:06] sounds fucking stupid but
[05:17:08] uh... they recruit like kids
[05:17:11] often times like uh... kids with deep uh... you know mental health
[05:17:14] complications
[05:17:16] through uh... roblox and things like that
[05:17:20] now i'm not putting jell on the hair man calm down lock in
[05:17:33] Some of their, yeah, they operate in terror, telegram groups called terror-gram, and it's like,
[05:17:47] basically the most nihilistic, most insane version of like what you think neo-nazis could
[05:17:55] believe like these, like it's worse than Nick Fuentes if that makes sense where they just
[05:18:00] straight-up celebrate mass shooters. Their goal is to try to actively radicalize one another
[05:18:06] into and egg them into engaging in an active, like, engaging to some sort of like mass shooting.
[05:18:16] This story contains,
[05:18:17] and
[05:18:23] helpless vicious cycle that these
[05:18:25] who government known hate groups and terrorist organizations across several different countries
[05:18:31] who read it.
[05:18:33] Like they've had a hidden turkey and numerous other places.
[05:18:37] The murders of two people outside of LGBTQ bar plus first look like an active alone shooter a
[05:18:42] a pro public and front line of messages shows they were. In fact, the combination of
[05:18:47] a coordinated international recruiting effort by online extremists. It's pretty wild
[05:18:52] because there's literally like, I mean, they're they're they're traceable. They're
[05:19:01] trackable. I suspect that there's feds in these groups, but I guess maybe not or maybe
[05:19:09] they know and they don't give a shit.
[05:19:14] But they celebrate, you know, the Christchurch shooter, they celebrate Anders Brivic,
[05:19:19] some of the telltale signs that this is yet another version of that usually is, when you
[05:19:25] look at the shooter's guns and their posts, they will, they will sometimes inscribe
[05:19:39] The same is high profile, white nationalist, and white supremacist shooters all over their
[05:19:44] gear about the shooter.
[05:19:48] Like I said at the start, 18 years old, her name was Jesse Van Rootsalar, female, but
[05:19:53] apparently born as a biological male, again transitioning about six years ago, but a history
[05:19:59] of mental health issues.
[05:20:01] Please had a tendon that residents on multiple occasions over the past several years, dealing
[05:20:07] with concerns of mental health, with respect to our suspect.
[05:20:13] I can say that on different occasions,
[05:20:16] a suspect was apprehended for assessment and follow-up.
[05:20:20] Concerns regarding mental health, so far.
[05:20:23] Police would even go so far as to states.
[05:20:25] Some of them, yeah, the Tehragram group
[05:20:26] are too decentralized.
[05:20:28] They have no centralized command structure,
[05:20:30] not them like that.
[05:20:32] Those concerns involved guns.
[05:20:34] Police have attended that residence in the past.
[05:20:37] approximately a couple of years ago where firearms were seized under the criminal code.
[05:20:43] I can say that at later point in time the lawful owner of those firearms petitioned
[05:20:47] for those firearms to be returned and they were.
[05:20:50] People will look at guns, repeated mental health visits, this should have been a red flag.
[05:20:55] How do you process those?
[05:20:57] Well, a big question is red flagged up to a certain point and all many red flags do you need to act?
[05:21:03] because you have to bear in mind that the RCMP has to operate
[05:21:06] within a certain legal framework.
[05:21:08] But what police have already admitted,
[05:21:10] they may struggle to figure out, is in all of this,
[05:21:14] the why.
[05:21:15] There's going to be a lot of the leg word
[05:21:17] that will need to be done by investigators underground
[05:21:20] to try to determine whether or not there were signal,
[05:21:24] there were flags that should have been picked on and were not.
[05:21:27] They did say, there didn't appear to be any specific targeting
[05:21:32] any specific students at the school, but that may change as
[05:21:36] please learn more. And they pointed out, the shooter wasn't even a
[05:21:39] current student at that school. She dropped out of school around four
[05:21:42] years ago. So on the crucial question of motive, a real mystery, what
[05:21:48] drives someone to open fire at a school they don't attend. Please
[05:21:53] don't know.
[05:21:53] It's crazy that they're like, of course, the right wing hogs in Canada are instantly
[05:22:12] fucking talking about how the shooter's trans, which once again, like in a sea of white
[05:22:25] cisgender heterosexual mass shooters, the one time it's a trans person, immediately
[05:22:30] like, oh, it's because of his trans. Okay. So the 99,000 times is happens. I'm not 99,000,
[05:22:37] like, you know, the thousands of times where this happens when it's a,
[05:22:42] let's just say a wide guy, it's, it's also because there's just that
[05:22:45] whites, like the fucking talking about it's totally ridiculous.
[05:22:49] Um, it's, it's, I don't know, I, I think like, you know, damn
[05:23:00] well, they say the first time, brother, one time into United States of America,
[05:23:06] They've been like three fucking mass shooters that are trans you dumb fuck. What are you talking about?
[05:23:14] There are hundreds of mass shootings that take place
[05:23:17] As far as the school shootings go, let's be fucking real for a second. It's usually cis and white dudes. Okay?
[05:23:27] So fuck are you talking about?
[05:23:29] the
[05:23:35] the only reason why this doesn't happen as frequently
[05:23:38] in places like Canada as it doesn't the United States of America is because of
[05:23:42] adequate usually usually yes if it's ninety nine percent of mass shootings being committed by
[05:23:48] ninety nine percent of mass shootings being committed by
[05:23:51] sits at white men and the one percent not even the one percent zero point zero one percent of
[05:23:55] it by trans people. If you still think this is a trans issue, so not one time, see it.
[05:24:01] Do you understand how math works? Are you that fucking stupid? Yeah, not one time. Okay,
[05:24:11] three total in the entire world, dude.
[05:24:16] Lall, see ya, good point you made. You fucking moron. What the hell is this?
[05:24:32] Hogs are so fucking brain disease, brother. Holy shit. Yeah, let's swap it.
[05:24:37] uh...
[05:24:40] uh...
[05:24:42] uh...
[05:24:44] chatter's stupid professionally
[05:24:47] yes yes i'm gonna focus stream
[05:24:53] in a canteenie streaming
[05:25:07] are we going to have to wait for six months to see your talk now it's going to come out
[05:25:17] immediately it's going to come out in real time okay anyway I don't know the the the whole
[05:25:26] circumstances surrounding this uh mass shooting that took place I look into it a little bit more
[05:25:31] But it just reads at first glance, it reads like online radicalization and
[05:25:45] Dude, I brought this fucking suit all the way out here, but I'm like less confident about wearing it because I feel like I'm going to explode out of it now.
[05:25:57] Like look at how tight it is, bro.
[05:26:01] If I blow up, if I explode out of this fucking suit while I'm on stage, I'm killing myself in a video game.
[05:26:11] It's just like, hopefully the chair that I'm sitting on isn't like, what are those load of the ground chairs?
[05:26:22] Because if that's the case, I'm fucked.
[05:26:26] Like this is, it's so tight I can't even fuckin' cross my legs dude.
[05:26:56] I should be more worried about getting frame mod by the ASU Chad, who frame mock-le vehicular?
[05:27:08] What if there's a, what if there's a, there's a, a university of British Columbia, uh,
[05:27:15] Chad that frame mugs me turns me into a fucking frame cell.
[05:27:21] Don't worry about that.
[05:27:31] What are you looking for?
[05:27:36] Oh.
[05:27:45] You're not bringing the shock? No, you should. Really?
[05:27:55] But there are people asking a question.
[05:28:06] Hold on.
[05:28:15] You
[05:28:45] you
[05:29:15] Is the fit y'all?
[05:29:25] No, I didn't change.
[05:29:45] So I'm got a compliment at this jacket.
[05:29:50] It has a built in Fanny Pack, yes.
[05:29:54] Looking like a Fed.
[05:29:57] When in doubt you switch Android,
[05:29:59] click the Terms, it'll make you sound extra smart.
[05:30:01] Okay, I'll do that.
[05:30:02] Are we ready to move?
[05:30:03] All right.
[05:30:04] I'm going to swap over in a second.
[05:30:09] and astronomical number of testimonies from minor children and adults over the generations
[05:30:17] who have survived this cults.
[05:30:19] The perpetrators being anyone hiding behind anonymity on the internet inside of these discord
[05:30:26] chats.
[05:30:27] It truly is a helpless vicious cycle that these children find themselves in.
[05:30:31] It is so important that this information is out there.
[05:30:35] These children are real.
[05:30:37] experiencing real harm.
[05:30:39] When I elevated this story like others,
[05:30:42] I got a rapid response from the public.
[05:30:45] And the call to action was encouraging the public
[05:30:48] to report it to the FBI.
[05:30:51] The young lady in the hospital because of one of them.
[05:30:55] A few weeks later, the FBI released an extraordinary
[05:30:58] public service announcement.
[05:31:00] Warning groups like 764 and called target miners
[05:31:04] between eight and 17 years old, especially LGBTQ plus youth, racial minorities, and those
[05:31:10] who struggle with mental health issues, such as depression and suicidal ideation.
[05:31:15] The FBI says the group's end goal is forcing miners into committing suicide on live
[05:31:21] stream for their own entertainment or their own sense of fame.
[05:31:28] The thing that I find unique and in particular disturbing with these groups is the level
[05:31:33] violence, just the sheer the propensity to act out violently in the real world.
[05:31:38] These are all things that make the stand out to me.
[05:31:41] Matt Richardson works with the US-based anti-human trafficking intelligence initiative.
[05:31:47] So if you search some of the groups named by the FBI,
[05:31:50] what can you show up?
[05:31:53] Sure, let's pick one CVLT I've seen to remember.
[05:31:56] But what all point out here is that very quickly a role-block's group.
[05:32:01] Roblox is a gaming site.
[05:32:04] Yes, Roblox is a game that's popular for many age groups.
[05:32:08] So what they're doing here is saying,
[05:32:10] hey, this is a Roblox community.
[05:32:11] So this is a lowering tactic.
[05:32:13] Yeah, this would appear to be a lowering tactic,
[05:32:16] or potentially an example of a honeypot.
[05:32:18] People will create servers for any number of topics
[05:32:21] that we're eating disorders, poor self-esteem,
[05:32:25] poor body image, among others.
[05:32:27] It attracts the attention of people that are vulnerable.
[05:32:31] Discords are pretty user-friendly platform.
[05:32:33] It's easy to create accounts, multiple accounts
[05:32:35] if one wishes, create and delete servers.
[05:32:39] The other factor would be the layer of and an emitting
[05:32:41] out of forage, because when we create channels on Discord,
[05:32:45] you can have to make the private or public
[05:32:47] if they're made private.
[05:32:48] So predators can avoid detection by police
[05:32:50] or even concern parents.
[05:32:54] That student, no, it's going on.
[05:32:58] I thought she was in her background.
[05:33:00] She wasn't in there.
[05:33:02] Then that's when I really got concerned.
[05:33:04] And I couldn't believe it honestly that she had lived.
[05:33:07] So I called one of the social workers that we had.
[05:33:10] And she said, we're just going ahead and call 911.
[05:33:14] That's the one for the emergency.
[05:33:16] Inspector, I'm not going to find him.
[05:33:19] I call a phone and call a pilot.
[05:33:23] And I call him in after that relief.
[05:33:26] She didn't know about me knowing it.
[05:33:30] Police had just finished searching Maris phone when the 911 call came in.
[05:33:36] About the same time that the child's one out of the papers found on this phone.
[05:33:40] Did you do an out-of-reported missing?
[05:33:43] My gut feeling was telling me that he was going to make the attempt to get back to Texas.
[05:33:47] But there's a lot of things that can occur between Virginia and Texas.
[05:33:51] We begin tonight with an Amber Alert.
[05:33:54] A young girl is thought to be an extreme danger.
[05:33:57] 21-year-old Caleb Merritt has abducted 12-year-old Ali Broughtaway.
[05:34:02] Well, the Amberler went out, you know, where we're concerned, you know what...
[05:34:08] Alright, swap this.
[05:34:10] God forbid.
[05:34:11] Swap it.
[05:34:13] God forbid.
[05:34:14] You guys don't want to know what Mars was talking about.
[05:34:16] God forbid, a white-foot-get-a-low-motion.
[05:34:18] You guys...
[05:34:20] Wait, did we bring the light?
[05:34:22] I'd have it.
[05:34:23] I don't need it just yet, but I'd have it just in case.
[05:34:26] Yeah, okay
[05:34:30] Start it tonight good to have it
[05:34:33] Good to have it and not need it then to need it and I have it
[05:34:37] So I'll be wearing the silky
[05:34:42] And the bus down and the bus down AP okay, where's the phone? Where's that from?
[05:34:48] Chat doesn't say
[05:34:56] That was quite the topic change, yeah, with flash.
[05:35:01] You guys were learning about order of non-angles and how they organized and stuff, and
[05:35:05] then all of a sudden boom, back to a car, out of nowhere, and somebody said, I wonder,
[05:35:16] I'm going to execute the chatter with this, where'd you go, stop hiding him, oh my god,
[05:35:20] I lost him that day.
[05:35:21] What did he say?
[05:35:23] He was complaining of the light or something like, but we're playing at the ground.
[05:35:26] Okay, I can make it brighter, we're just playing at the ground.
[05:35:30] Really a mod's vaporized that guy.
[05:35:37] You want me to go check out my mom's camera, she runs it on her own.
[05:35:40] It's called Casby the Vancouver.
[05:35:42] She cooks bomb more than I can food if you want the best cook.
[05:35:44] She doesn't know what the matter here, have to visit.
[05:35:46] She also probably looks you up with so much of she knew your return.
[05:35:49] She was crazy, well, is there?
[05:35:52] Is there solidarity there with the church?
[05:35:55] Yeah, yeah
[05:35:57] Little bit a little bit go either way
[05:36:01] How's busy so far? It's beautiful and Vancouver is beautiful and
[05:36:07] Yeah, I just I already told you this is like this is like a Valorant E-Girl server
[05:36:15] You know, it's crazy
[05:36:17] crazy. No time to see anything like it.
[05:36:25] W had.
[05:36:30] Pro stop.
[05:36:33] Come on around next.
[05:36:37] It's only looking at some but unbuttoned blazer.
[05:36:40] Yeah, it's a son of a lady.
[05:36:42] Yeah, well, I'll be lady.
[05:36:44] All the 2019 scene girls that were bankrupt now, I don't know what that even means at this point.
[05:36:49] It's going to be fine.
[05:36:53] I'm going to play the roof again.
[05:36:55] What? What?
[05:36:56] Why?
[05:36:57] You just, you can show it at this point.
[05:37:01] I just think it's really pretty.
[05:37:03] I'll show you.
[05:37:04] I got to do it.
[05:37:05] So needy.
[05:37:06] What the hell do you know?
[05:37:08] to look at the creasing like the stitching is coming off. I'm so
[05:37:15] cooked. Yeah, I think I got the giga ultra zoom lens for these talks so
[05:37:20] you guys can they can see every fiber on your camera. If I flex my
[05:37:25] closet, my hamstrings at the same time, it feels like I'm gonna explode out of the
[05:37:28] fucking explode out of the pan. I'm a little uncomfortable, I haven't worn a
[05:37:34] soon a minute. That's the record show. I told my mother. You did. The other
[05:37:40] fit was pretty good too. I mean they're both fine. The other fit was more
[05:37:44] non-traditional, but I wanted to go with the traditional look this time. But
[05:37:49] ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls and embies, we are in Vancouver,
[05:37:53] British Columbia Canada, and we are on our way to University of British Columbia
[05:37:58] right now. And the reason for why we're going to University of British Columbia is
[05:38:02] because I will be talking, I'm going to be delivering a speech that I did not write for the
[05:38:09] Phil Lind Society, or the Phil Lind Initiative at the University of British Columbia.
[05:38:16] We are mostly going to be talking as a part of a series called America First.
[05:38:24] Hongban, I'm going to read it out to you right now. Yeah, he's America First. Yeah, America First,
[05:38:28] America alone, global politics, in an age of uncertainty that's the speaker series that
[05:38:33] has started by the Phil Linden Initiative in 2026. The resurgence of America first
[05:38:39] driven unilateralism is reshaping the global order, as the U.S. moves further from its
[05:38:44] post-war roles, global leader and consists of builder, the 2026 Linden Initiative,
[05:38:48] investigates the evolving drivers of U.S. foreign policy under President Trump,
[05:38:52] the weakening of multilateral institutions and the rise of rival powers like China and Russia.
[05:38:56] What happens with the world's most powerful country stops playing by the rules.
[05:38:59] It helped to write.
[05:39:01] And who steps in when it does?
[05:39:03] From heart-hitting journalism and critical foreign policy analysis, the political commentary
[05:39:07] and provocative arc, is your speakers and target the consequences of America's disengagement.
[05:39:11] Together, these conversations explore the fragility of alliances, the realignment of global
[05:39:15] influence, the future of democratic norms in the era marked by rising authoritarianism,
[05:39:19] contested troops and geopolitical uncertainty,
[05:39:24] whether they're headlines, histories, or cultural critique,
[05:39:26] e-speaker offers a lens into what a post-American world might look like and who stands to shape it.
[05:39:35] And some of the speakers, it was Thomas L Friedman, who was the first speaker for this
[05:39:41] American first. Thomas Friedman is a horrible, neocon. And then it was charity weeding,
[05:39:51] who I'm not very familiar with and then it's me and then it's Dred Scott, Rachel Maddo
[05:39:58] and Carlos, Carlos, Lozada. Tom's self-remen is a three-time Pulitzer Prize winning
[05:40:04] New York Times columnist and best-selling author. Charity Wheaton is a former NASA associate,
[05:40:10] administrator and global space policy leader. Dred Scott, interdisciplinary artists and activist
[05:40:16] of a challenging ideals of American society,
[05:40:18] racial maddo, Emmy Award-winning journalist
[05:40:21] and host of the Rachel Maddo Show,
[05:40:23] and Carlos Gonzalez of Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist
[05:40:25] and opinion columnist for the New York Times.
[05:40:29] So you're opening for Rachel Maddo?
[05:40:31] That's, I mean, I guess you could look at it that way.
[05:40:36] The series moderator that I will be speaking alongside
[05:40:39] is Nojang Katami, Assistant Professor of Political Science
[05:40:43] at Ford University in New York City,
[05:40:44] born in Iran. He is in the lunges of the PhD program in political science at UBC.
[05:40:48] It was a post-doctoral fellow with the Justicia Center for Advanced Studies at Goathe
[05:40:52] University. Frankford and currently serves the Co-Coronator for Islamic Studies at
[05:40:56] Fortem Lincoln Center campus. His research and teaching interests include Democratic
[05:41:00] theory, literature, aesthetics, revolution and resistance. Cosmics, current book, project
[05:41:05] rewriting the people, exile and resistance in comparative political thought, exam is
[05:41:08] expressions of descent against the present political structures, with a comparative analysis
[05:41:11] is moving from Iran to North America.
[05:41:14] His public scholarship is appeared in the progressive and Boston review.
[05:41:17] And he is the coast host and the new podcast, politics and exilic city.
[05:41:23] That's who is going to be interviewing me,
[05:41:24] or moderating this discussion.
[05:41:26] There's a bunch of questions that are going to be coming up
[05:41:28] about authoritarianism rising overseas.
[05:41:31] Should we be critiquing it?
[05:41:32] What should be saying?
[05:41:34] I suspect that will be a part of the discussion for sure.
[05:41:38] And more so, American authoritarianism,
[05:41:40] fashion growing in the Western world, you know, the failure of liberalism and multilateral
[05:41:45] treaties and what that means for the future of the world really. So good stuff that
[05:41:52] I'm invested in, and that's part of the reason why I'm wearing a suit today. Now, as
[05:41:58] suspected of me, usually these things start with a speech, I think, that I'm supposed to
[05:42:03] write, and as suspected of me, I did not write a speech. At all, I'm just going to
[05:42:08] Three style off top dome like I did at Trinity College like I did at Oxford Union
[05:42:14] Like I did everywhere else like I did at the
[05:42:19] Palestine Valley in DC so don't expect anything other than me. I'm a freestyle Andy
[05:42:26] You already know what it is
[05:42:29] Check pronunciation of go-thek is it go-th?
[05:42:32] Are you going to meet up with Abbey Lewis and if you leadership candidate and Naomi
[05:42:39] Klein's husband, I think so, it looked very Turkish from this angle, I don't know what
[05:42:45] that means.
[05:42:48] Me and my girlfriend think you look hot, we're both lesbians, so not just thirst and you're
[05:42:56] doing great, less spam my promise.
[05:43:00] I will not be meeting up with Ryan Laterno,
[05:43:04] also known as Northern line, the line of the North,
[05:43:07] because he is very much against multilateral
[05:43:13] treaties falling apart.
[05:43:15] And as a consequence of that,
[05:43:17] it's a big Mark Carney advocate.
[05:43:20] Northern line has decided,
[05:43:23] he's putting his foot on the ground.
[05:43:25] He is no longer collaborating with any American.
[05:43:27] Now I'm just making a shit up, ooh, Tim Horton, Tim Horton's, oh, a cultural institution.
[05:43:37] Have you been yet?
[05:43:39] No, have you?
[05:43:40] I think many times in my life.
[05:43:42] Oh yeah, you've been, yeah, because you, you, you, you, you lived here practically.
[05:43:46] Yeah, what Tim did is?
[05:43:48] Um, no, what is it, Tim terms with coffee or something?
[05:43:51] No, Tim did is basically a little bit of an American, but it's just a sloppy American,
[05:43:56] We call it donut hole.
[05:43:58] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[05:44:00] I've never been out to a horn.
[05:44:01] But if they call it 10 big home timbits.
[05:44:06] The bit that team,
[05:44:09] the bit that team.
[05:44:10] Let bit the team.
[05:44:12] Tim's the shit, do not go there.
[05:44:14] It is pretty trash.
[05:44:14] Tim terms are all secret.
[05:44:16] You see that I know.
[05:44:17] Also, Tim's is sucks, but it's a must try.
[05:44:21] Okay, you're giving me the mixed signals.
[05:44:22] Is it the suckers that a must try?
[05:44:24] It's like, it's like Nando's, he's at Nando's,
[05:44:27] it's better.
[05:44:28] Yeah, Nando's is edible.
[05:44:31] Sometimes the only thing that you can get
[05:44:32] that's edible in London, London is that.
[05:44:35] Yeah, and it's like, it's, it's, it's the,
[05:44:39] nostalgic institution, we've guarded
[05:44:42] happily by the locals.
[05:44:44] All right, while we're here, we might as well
[05:44:46] read this GQ article,
[05:44:49] I'm not trying to maxing. Hopefully I can read it.
[05:44:56] He's still there.
[05:44:58] Yeah, hopefully I can read.
[05:45:01] GQ's article title is why Internet stars are trying to maxing.
[05:45:04] No, I meant, like, I hope they don't pay off me.
[05:45:07] By Andrew Fedoroff, on the other side of the great firewall, there is no YouTube,
[05:45:13] but there are more than a billion, more than half a billion people who watch streamers.
[05:45:17] happens when America's top creators introduce themselves.
[05:45:20] For the American Traveler, who imagines you as a borderline healthy relationship with
[05:45:23] his phone, and trip to China is instructive.
[05:45:26] First, the great firewall cuts you off in the social feeds and algorithms that govern
[05:45:29] your media consumption back home.
[05:45:31] With that resorting to a VPN to bypass these blocks, there is no access to Facebook, Instagram,
[05:45:35] YouTube, Gmail, X, or TikTok.
[05:45:37] In your digital world, those quiet, you realize just how much of your daily intake is noise.
[05:45:42] But just as your starting to appreciate this island's new portals open up, more than anywhere
[05:45:46] else on Earth to get by in China, you have to live through your phone, this is a true.
[05:45:53] You pay for almost everything with QR codes on super apps, public transit tickets, come
[05:45:56] in blocky patterns and the same apps, and ordering it restaurants that time-honored
[05:46:00] respite for the lonely is the QR access mini programs in the apps.
[05:46:04] Let me through Chinese apps, you start to get sucked into their social layers, which automatically
[05:46:07] translate into English.
[05:46:09] The hostel is a group chat that buzzes constantly.
[05:46:11] The guys sold you spicy rabbit heads, keeps sending you memes.
[05:46:14] On the far side of the greater firewall, there is no escaping the noise.
[05:46:17] After two and a half months in China last year, I started to fantasize about throwing my phone into a gutter.
[05:46:21] At least one group of Americans is more intrigued than repelled by this thoroughly digitized world, streamers.
[05:46:27] So the biggest western content creators and their managers, the business logic of building a Chinese following is long but apparent.
[05:46:33] There are over a billion internet users in China, and unlike anywhere else in the world, live streams have already been popular in a time of word decade.
[05:46:39] In 2016, it was recorded that more than half of those billion were regularly consuming
[05:46:46] the format, because all American platforms are blocked in the country, it represents a massive
[05:46:50] on-tapped market for creators.
[05:46:52] January 2024 Mr. Beast, the most subscribed creator and YouTube gifed this to behind the
[05:46:55] great fire wall by posting his first video on the Chinese platform BDB, Inhale, he greeted
[05:47:00] Chinese viewers.
[05:47:01] Inclosed, segment over the Chinese market runs against America's abiding policy on China,
[05:47:05] which involves stoking a trade war and raising fears about a war war.
[05:47:10] But a counter-bailing tendency was already emerging among the left-liberal pundits who
[05:47:14] envi-china solar panels, widespread electric car usage, and high-speed trains, and among
[05:47:18] younger Americans.
[05:47:19] See, this is what I mean, the left-liberal dichotomy.
[05:47:22] It's like, I don't just envi-china's electric grid and renewable initiatives.
[05:47:27] I also envi the power of central planning.
[05:47:30] I do envi that.
[05:47:33] The interest in not waging war overseas costly wars overseas that end up destroying entire
[05:47:38] countries, but instead focusing on building its own infrastructure, even development.
[05:47:44] Focusing on a more tolerant approach to international trade, or focusing on a more
[05:47:48] tolerant approach to maintaining international relations.
[05:47:54] than naked imperialism and war-profit hearing.
[05:48:01] In January, 2025, the government threatened to ban TikTok massive America's preemptively
[05:48:06] joined the Chinese social media network red note.
[05:48:08] Our generation and younger are so tapped in the China in ways that an older person cannot
[05:48:12] comprehend because a red note and TikTok, the left-of-shroom or a songwriter tells me.
[05:48:16] There are spots that they want to go to.
[05:48:18] Last March, 20-year-old Darren Walk is Jr. who broke out of the 45 million YouTube subscribers
[05:48:22] under the moniker at the speed or speed. For sure, it became the first mass and
[05:48:25] Western creator to go on a highly public side towards the country. I can't believe it.
[05:48:28] I will never be able to beat that. I like that's true. You did do that. He acted as a,
[05:48:34] he acted as another catalyst changing attitude on both sides and inspiring
[05:48:38] boiling envy among fellow lesioners, Piker. Was so jealous, so sour, over-speech tripped that
[05:48:42] Chinese internet users started calling him Lemon Bro. I've been wanting to go to China for
[05:48:46] many, many years now, but I think it was much easier to convince people he says.
[05:48:49] Speed was going. Speed going was a huge for a lot of people on our industry because they saw how sick it was.
[05:48:55] Speed a dream to visit in China since he was a little kid. More recently, he'd seen...
[05:49:01] More recently, he'd seen snapshots of the country's fast blooming cyberpunk landscapes, populating his feeds, and saw out Chinese anime.
[05:49:07] So the people's Republic was an entirely unknown to him. And he and Tern wasn't entirely unknown there.
[05:49:12] His confidence slipped through the Great Firewall.
[05:49:14] Clip from his accounts on the Blocked International Platforms and Replace it on Chinese apps even before he
[05:49:18] Lashes on Chinese profiles speed of gain so much traction on Chinese solid internet that fans bestowed on him the nickname
[05:49:24] Hyper-Firewood Bro because they're an expression he makes frequently, which features Baltimore's and neck
[05:49:29] Superficially resembling the symptoms of the condition. I was commonly, yeah, you didn't know that most commonly
[05:49:36] Yeah, they don't have the best nicknames for us. I'm gonna be honest most commonly associated with the nice agent
[05:49:40] in Shanghai. It's been his first Chinese fans of the five minutes of turning on the camera.
[05:49:45] Within 20 minutes, a mob had formed around him. He's been the next seven hours dodging the swarm while trying to discover the city.
[05:49:50] Every shooting is going to be like this. I think Shanghai is going to be the worst though, because there's so many people here that know me he predicted.
[05:49:55] I think other cities will be more calm. He couldn't have been more wrong. In Chengdu, a crowd surrounded him before he even emerged from the van,
[05:50:02] in which he recorded his introduction, oh my god, China is crazy, he said. As he moved through the city, his body got formed a protective circle.
[05:50:08] But fans teenagers and middle-aged men alike flung themselves to the gaps bring grabbing at him and screaming that they loved him
[05:50:14] Members of the renowned local rap group higher brothers who were meant to accompany him during the stream
[05:50:19] Bailed part way through because of the pandemonium. I want to keep shaming, but you have to calm down, speed shout out the crowd
[05:50:25] I can't do what I gotta do if everybody is
[05:50:28] is a horror horror horror.
[05:50:34] You break the rules on Chinese social media, your council just got on this shitty
[05:50:37] chicken bag, it's really annoying.
[05:50:39] In Chongqing, drone footage showed an entire block of people turning behind him,
[05:50:43] ash Jackson Lou, a local contractor who got it to be through the city.
[05:50:46] What those moments have been like?
[05:50:47] Have you seen the Walking Dead World War Z or 28 days later, Lou said?
[05:50:51] If felt like that, for the local influencers who joined him, the experience was totally
[05:50:54] unprecedented.
[05:50:55] That kind of situation I've never seen before, Ryan Chan, a Trunks' native, was built
[05:50:59] to following in China and abroad, as Chinese Trump tells me, of course he's got body
[05:51:04] guards, but the body guards cannot completely shelter him.
[05:51:07] Many of the people who showed up weren't long time speed obsessives, they'd simply caught
[05:51:10] the virus and taken to the streets.
[05:51:12] A majority of people who are going up to him to yell his name or take a picture, they
[05:51:15] don't really know who he is.
[05:51:16] They just saw him trending in China, insanely trending, so they wanted to be a part of that.
[05:51:20] Says Jake Avermson, the American who's been streaming from China as Jake and Bakesis 2018,
[05:51:25] joined speed on a cable car ride through Trumpshing. He created those fans.
[05:51:30] The piring nature of speed strip was part of the reason why fans flocked to him, but
[05:51:34] his extraordinary ability to or orchestrate a crowd to interact meaningfully on a mass level
[05:51:38] must have been part of it too. It was a Western influence to really interacting with Chinese
[05:51:42] people in a way that hasn't really been done before, said Olivia Plotnik, the founder
[05:51:45] of why social, a Shanghai social media marketing agency. You have celebrities and pop stars
[05:51:50] visit, but those tours are very out of reach of the public, whereas I should speed was going
[05:51:53] all these different cities and interact with people on the streets very freely.
[05:51:57] Other influencers have hesitated to venture in because the arcane rules the Chinese social
[05:52:00] media which is highly censored in ways that are rarely publicly spelled out and far from
[05:52:04] intuitive to outsiders.
[05:52:06] Creators love to do what they do because they get to be who they are such as that
[05:52:09] cat, CEO of fixated, a content creative representation firm.
[05:52:12] If all of a sudden there is this lens of moderation on yourself expression, does that make
[05:52:17] you want to do it more?
[05:52:18] No.
[05:52:19] For creators who decide to invest time and efforts into building a presence on Chinese platforms,
[05:52:23] The small blunder can be disastrous.
[05:52:25] You break the rules on Chinese social media and your accounts were just gone Abrams and
[05:52:28] says, it's really annoying.
[05:52:30] The Shaolin soccer actor Shao Wei, for instance, not only had a accounts deleted for
[05:52:36] reasons that were never explained, but her name was scrubbed from the Chinese Internet.
[05:52:39] Those are the most extreme cases.
[05:52:41] Sometimes being keywords like Tibet or Taiwan are simply stored out.
[05:52:44] To be clear, these hurdles speed worked with East goes global, an agency that has helped
[05:52:49] MBA stars enter the Chinese market.
[05:52:51] They helped launch M on Chinese platforms and initially connected them with local creators like
[05:52:55] Lou.
[05:52:56] But the partnership broke down shortly after Speed's first stream in Shanghai.
[05:52:58] My personal guess is that they think is a little too risky, they worried that Speed was
[05:53:03] going to do something stupid on the live stream in a Fenn Chinese culture of society,
[05:53:06] plus Lou recalls Speed hated the first agency.
[05:53:09] I would have reacted the same, like how can you abandon us and drop us after a first
[05:53:12] live stream?
[05:53:13] With support from the Asian American record label 88 rising, Speed regrouped and pressed
[05:53:17] on.
[05:53:18] East goes global Norse Speed Respondent requests for comment.
[05:53:21] Chinese Embassy in Washington, D.C.
[05:53:23] Praise, Peace, Work is Britain Cultural Gaps.
[05:53:25] The country's government sponsored influencer visits in 2025.
[05:53:28] The country's government's sponsored influencer visits in 2025.
[05:53:31] But speed's demon assisted.
[05:53:32] He hadn't accepted any state funding in his broadcast
[05:53:34] show the size of the country that state media has absolutely ignored.
[05:53:37] On-brace is one woman dressed in an anime cosplay in Chengdu to hold them.
[05:53:40] Wait, I don't think you understand what you're saying.
[05:53:42] Do you speak English, Speed Aster? Yes, I am racist.
[05:53:45] The woman reiterated.
[05:53:46] We're all hell-nosed, be it said.
[05:53:47] Fuck, she's saying.
[05:53:49] Another time in Shanghai, man.
[05:53:50] She had the KFC bag at in Thur's car window.
[05:53:53] When Speed opened it, it found a banana.
[05:53:54] The man started hooting like a monkey.
[05:53:56] These were at the only time Speed encountered such attitudes
[05:53:58] during a strip, but they didn't seem to be the norm either.
[05:54:01] Which, by the way, out of all the places he visited,
[05:54:04] objectively, I would say China was one of the least racist places.
[05:54:07] Even though, of course, racism is anti-black racism,
[05:54:11] is such a universal, universally shared value.
[05:54:16] It is, it is pretty crazy to think like, I mean, Poland was like, nightmarish in
[05:54:23] area.
[05:54:26] They were falling going, and just, okay, stop coping, there, let's be real, anti-blackness
[05:54:34] is, again, universal.
[05:54:36] It's a universal experience.
[05:54:39] You can talk about how it became a universal experience, and that's fair.
[05:54:44] And how it even made its way to China, in spite of the fire wall and the Chinese development
[05:54:51] through periods of time.
[05:54:52] But the reality of the matter is it's virtually impossible to fucking ignore it.
[05:54:59] Okay.
[05:55:00] Oh, it's to be very, yeah, he did go to Africa.
[05:55:04] His Africa tour was the least racist of all places I apologize, my mistake.
[05:55:09] On a tourist boat under the I met like non-black places he went to.
[05:55:13] On a tourist boat under the lights of Hong Kong, Hong Kong skyline filtering through the foggy evening,
[05:55:17] speed-med a young woman from Shaoxing.
[05:55:20] It was the longest he'd been away from the ravenous crowds that in the stream it seemed as
[05:55:23] if time was contracting for him.
[05:55:26] He asked him 10 minutes at past and was informed that it was more like 40.
[05:55:28] The woman told him she followed him on Doyan, Tiktok's Chinese sister-ab, her timber was
[05:55:33] high in childish.
[05:55:34] He called it an anime voice and asked her to say Pikachu if he times cracking up.
[05:55:39] Cracking up each time she squeaked it up. She told him she'd been make fun of for a voice all our life
[05:55:44] I'm 25 years old, but my voice is like 10 years old
[05:55:47] She said some people don't like this voice. They always laughing me. Don't listen to them. He said that was a beautiful moment
[05:55:52] Yeah, you just have to stay strong and be you at the end of the day people gonna hate you all the time
[05:55:56] It doesn't matter if you're the best or the most perfect person in the world people gonna hate you know what I'm saying
[05:56:01] You have a nice voice she seemed moved. I believe you she said a fist bump people talk about me all the time
[05:56:06] People say I've got a big nose. I'm musty. I'm black. I'm trash or football. Like I'm one of the best football players in the world
[05:56:12] You're telling me speed said they don't understand you should tell them but we can grow up
[05:56:16] We can get stronger they reach across the divide with the touch of vulnerability. That's right
[05:56:20] He said W speech bro
[05:56:29] He'll strong
[05:56:31] It's so funny, okay, yeah, W.C.E. for a little bit of a time.
[05:56:38] Speech trips, launch our mod and influence on their own China, Gjernies, Gaming Shimmer,
[05:56:42] Pokemon 1, twice and 25, sending across the intersection from the Lowei Bay story in Shanghai.
[05:56:47] She drunk about the resolution of the city compared to her home.
[05:56:49] It looks like 4K LA, 720p, overpicking Guck a few days later, she used, I worry that
[05:56:56] It's really great now, and in three years it'll be ruined by tourism.
[05:57:00] On his first day in the country, Agent Zero, Zero,
[05:57:03] Mint, Jackie Chan, Lacey and Jason,
[05:57:05] the Ween, formerly a face class, one through two,
[05:57:07] even the milk boys who would align themselves
[05:57:09] with Trump in the last election were enchanted.
[05:57:12] They were nervous when they first got off the plane
[05:57:14] of flicking, this is what I told the journalist
[05:57:17] to pursue this lead in our conversation.
[05:57:21] I was like, looking to the milk boys,
[05:57:23] because he was like interviewing a bunch of people
[05:57:24] when the Chana, I was like, the one that's really interesting is the
[05:57:27] elk boys because they literally thought it was like North Korea and then they
[05:57:30] went and they were like it's fucking awesome. So I'm glad he did pursue that
[05:57:34] lead. Who to line themselves to Trump in the last election were in Chanted.
[05:57:39] They were nervous when they first got off the plane, afflicted by the unfamiliar
[05:57:43] feeling of encountering the unknown in a superficially hyper-connected world.
[05:57:47] That last feeling like this was, I think, Russia caught said, Kyle, four
[05:57:51] or garage, for PR, forger, I don't know how he saves me.
[05:57:56] Milk Kyle.
[05:58:00] This is one step closer in North Korea,
[05:58:01] but after a few days he declared China's kind of like America,
[05:58:04] except everything is in Chinese.
[05:58:06] This is not what I expected.
[05:58:08] Later he concluded China is lit.
[05:58:10] According to Aaj Lui, a businessman from Kunming,
[05:58:13] who helped plan their trip and party
[05:58:14] with them across the country.
[05:58:15] They've discussed plans over turn in 2026.
[05:58:17] For a songpiker, China represented more
[05:58:19] that an untapped market of a shiny backdrop for a content as a socialist he looked
[05:58:23] to the achievements of the Chinese Communist Party, which is run the country since 1949,
[05:58:27] to see what its values and ideals looked like when put into practice.
[05:58:30] He wanted the experience of a country where leftists are in charge, rather than the outliers
[05:58:33] on the niche entertainment platforms.
[05:58:35] In the lead up to the strip in November, Pike occurred hardly contained his excitement.
[05:58:38] When Joe Biden is former FTC Commission Lee LeConne approach him in the hallway, the Ronald
[05:58:41] Reagan building an international trade center in DC, he bubbled over, I'm flying to China,
[05:58:46] and then I'm going to be here for a month, be there for a month, he told her,
[05:58:48] I'm going to start distributing videos on Chinese platforms.
[05:58:50] I've been saying for a while that this is the next frontier of reaching a huge number of people that are like mine with ourselves.
[05:58:55] He believed American letters and people living in socialist China would have a natural affinity akin to the solidarity post-colonial countries often expressed for Palestine.
[05:59:03] It's like when you speak with an Irish person, from Ireland, not from America, and automatically they get it on certain issues.
[05:59:09] I don't need to convince you on anything. You already understand it. And in China, there's a similar attitude towards having your government work for you.
[05:59:16] We high-profocus on the social repression, on the civil liberties, or not even civil liberties,
[05:59:20] necessarily, but free speech and things like that. But in terms of good governance,
[05:59:24] there's a lot we can learn from the way they perform out there, at least they get results.
[05:59:29] Honestly, fair concept. Looking back on this meeting,
[05:59:32] Parker tells me he might have overdone it. You know when you say something to someone
[05:59:37] and you think about it afterwards and you're like, what did I do there?
[05:59:40] Parker says, she was so shocked that I was talking positively about Chinese governance.
[05:59:45] That reinforced that unusual as position was in America.
[05:59:48] I love Lena, but I forget that she's a capitalist through and through, he says.
[05:59:52] That's why her response actually stuck with me.
[05:59:58] I did. I was like going on and on about how awesome it is when like, you know,
[06:00:02] the Chinese government is an essential planning and I was like not receiving the same.
[06:00:07] I was not receiving the reaction that I thought I would be receiving from her and then I forgot
[06:00:11] that like Lina Khan is is the pure like trust buster from a purely a capitalist perspective.
[06:00:24] Piker isn't entirely starry right about the Chinese system. I'm a political commentator, right?
[06:00:27] I would not be able to do what I do to the same degree in China, make no mistake. I probably could
[06:00:32] do what I do in China with respect to every other country. But if I had the same grids that I do with
[06:00:37] with Donald Trump, for example, with Xi Jinping, that would not work.
[06:00:41] Luckily, that wasn't among his problems on a second day in Beijing,
[06:00:44] Piger woke before sunshine, but sunrise
[06:00:46] to stream the same sort of commentary
[06:00:48] delivered from his home in LA.
[06:00:49] In my heart, in my soul, in my mind, in my conscious,
[06:00:51] I have already become Chinese, he told me,
[06:00:53] here is before turning to his first impression of the country.
[06:00:56] It's fucking sick, okay, you have a bunden style consumption
[06:00:59] paired up with centrally controlled economy and economic system
[06:01:01] that is yielded tremendous development.
[06:01:03] You have 1950 Soviet air of building blocks
[06:01:05] next to the Gucci store.
[06:01:06] If there was ever a country that represented the synthesis of the things I enjoy so much
[06:01:09] personally, if ever such a country existed, I do not know.
[06:01:14] When he wrapped the commentary portion of the stream, he and his 10 strong, 10 strong crew
[06:01:18] of influencers of facilities that have made their way to them and scored a witness
[06:01:21] to flag raising ceremony.
[06:01:22] It was just above freezing out.
[06:01:24] His friends were bleried in cranky, I'm somewhat of a vampire where I stay up super late,
[06:01:28] and we had to get up at 5am to do that we're called Bullneff.
[06:01:31] All the pomp and circumstance aside, I was already like fuck this.
[06:01:35] I would never do this fucking shit in any country, let alone China.
[06:01:38] Migra on the other hand was visibly buzzing.
[06:01:41] His excitement was momentarily check when a policeman approached them and asked to see
[06:01:45] their phone.
[06:01:46] The sound cut out in the screen went black.
[06:01:47] They turned on the camera back a few minutes later and watched the rest of the ceremony
[06:01:50] unimpeded alongside Chinese people who traveled from all around the country to see it.
[06:01:54] It wasn't really a big moment for us, but it was a big moment for newsweek and all
[06:01:58] these other news outlets that covered it.
[06:02:00] Where they were like a sonpiker, communist detained and killed and arrested and thrown
[06:02:03] to prison. For having a brief too many conversations with the Kovatiamus Square,
[06:02:07] who thought we were fucking around, that we were white Westerners who came to make a
[06:02:10] mockery of this place that's very important by your tells me. Of that far worse physical
[06:02:14] altercations with American cops. I mean, I've been to your gas by the French police.
[06:02:17] I've been to your gas by the American police. I've been pushed around by the American
[06:02:20] police. I've been arrested handcuffed. I had guns pointed at me.
[06:02:23] Leave the weapons pointed at me. Less than leave the weapons used on me.
[06:02:26] So obviously, if I'm ranking those experiences, it doesn't crack the top 10 worse.
[06:02:30] All right, there we're here by the way he is going to do chest cam for a bit for safety reasons
[06:02:40] Yeah?
[06:02:48] I can burn day Simone.
[06:02:52] You got to go.
[06:02:54] Yeah, people ate 10 more.
[06:03:02] Okay, honey, mind the time.
[06:03:04] What was that?
[06:03:05] Yeah, I was still light right now.
[06:03:07] Hello.
[06:03:08] Hi, Mark, nice to meet you.
[06:03:09] Camera is live, so just to head to up.
[06:03:12] Yeah, yeah.
[06:03:14] I'll keep it looking to get the green rim wherever you're taking this.
[06:03:39] I got a guy too.
[06:03:47] Oh hey!
[06:03:48] Oh wow, how did you get those so fast?
[06:03:50] I was like five minutes ago.
[06:03:52] I mean, you know, ten horns on canvas to be honest.
[06:03:56] Yeah.
[06:03:57] Wait, there is.
[06:03:58] Oh, is she?
[06:03:59] Is she going to show this room?
[06:04:00] We're just going to show this room.
[06:04:02] Can we show it?
[06:04:03] Yeah.
[06:04:04] Okay.
[06:04:05] Okay.
[06:04:06] Yeah.
[06:04:07] All right, sounds good.
[06:04:21] Oh, yeah, I think we know.
[06:04:25] Oh, it's like a fucking cement building.
[06:04:37] Well, there's definitely a UI virus so let's get on that.
[06:04:42] Let's get on that.
[06:04:44] Oh, I lost the GQ restriction.
[06:04:47] What the hell?
[06:04:50] I'm going to unpack it.
[06:04:55] I'll be on the...
[06:05:00] Okay, let's see what happens.
[06:05:07] Okay, let's see what happens.
[06:05:15] Okay, let's see what happens.
[06:05:24] It's cinematic.
[06:05:31] Look at the tuned dance, guys.
[06:05:36] Dying.
[06:05:40] That could say that again.
[06:05:45] How is it?
[06:06:18] Oh, one of them has a creamy filling.
[06:06:23] Oh, wait.
[06:06:25] This is a genius reaction.
[06:06:27] Oh, that one's fire.
[06:06:35] I mean, I'm on the internet.
[06:06:37] I'm on like the actual internet of the,
[06:06:40] and I still can't see, oh, I can.
[06:06:42] Is it a thing?
[06:06:43] We'll be laughing this all the time.
[06:06:45] Is it Finshot? Signals Week?
[06:06:48] Hell, bit rate?
[06:06:49] I don't know.
[06:06:50] Just step up.
[06:06:52] There's a fire.
[06:06:54] I don't know.
[06:06:56] I'm good.
[06:06:57] Let's put the pack on my side here.
[06:07:02] Yeah.
[06:07:06] This is just a UBC visitor.
[06:07:15] .
[06:08:15] Oh, I don't think so, I don't know if I can put it on this fuck, I'll turn it off, we're kind of good.
[06:08:34] Now let's see how bad is it?
[06:08:37] I'm trying to see that right now.
[06:08:41] The glitch...
[06:08:44] This one is like, just got a little cut in it.
[06:08:48] I'm gonna be able to see it.
[06:09:04] Now it's pretty good.
[06:09:11] I'm going to go play the line.
[06:09:34] Okay, I'll test it out there for a way.
[06:09:50] All right, chair room for a little walk.
[06:09:52] All right, you all attend this.
[06:10:04] You can see how we connected the bike by on the bag.
[06:10:31] Yeah, we're back out here, but it's just that room.
[06:10:39] We're here, we're good out here.
[06:10:42] Yeah, it's just the room.
[06:10:44] It's a crazy stadium back back.
[06:10:47] It's actually quite impressive.
[06:10:48] We were inside of a Chinese bomb shelter.
[06:10:50] And we were able to stream, we were able to stream, totally fine.
[06:10:53] But the dressing room.
[06:10:55] Mom.
[06:10:56] Thanks sir.
[06:10:57] There are many ways of concrete that will resemble.
[06:10:58] Woah.
[06:10:59] You can go along.
[06:11:00] To be able to learn more and learn more, this space is probably lighter and it may be better.
[06:11:08] Oh, we have to go.
[06:11:18] Do you have to go?
[06:11:19] Do you have to go?
[06:11:20] Do you have to go?
[06:11:21] Do you have to go?
[06:11:23] Do you have to go?
[06:11:24] Hello.
[06:11:25] Nice to meet you, guys.
[06:11:27] We're going to be doing a interview.
[06:11:30] Yeah, I'm Erica.
[06:11:31] Nice to meet you.
[06:11:32] Nice to meet you.
[06:11:33] Nice to meet you as well.
[06:11:34] We're laying here just like...
[06:11:36] That's crazy. Those are the chairs in your son-in-law.
[06:11:40] I'm going to have a few, but I'm going to have such a hard time.
[06:11:44] I'm wearing here. I'm going to be wearing these.
[06:11:47] I don't want them to be fixed by purged.
[06:11:49] Okay, I'm going to purge too. How long is the interview going to be?
[06:11:52] Oh, you're lying right now, by the way.
[06:11:54] Oh, I'm okay. Do you want me to?
[06:11:56] Okay. Yeah, I'm going to purge too when we like,
[06:11:59] that's it. I'm going to just be squatting the whole time.
[06:12:03] And the frame is today.
[06:12:05] You're out there.
[06:12:06] Because see the pants are a little tight.
[06:12:08] Can you see that?
[06:12:09] Did you grow a shot or not?
[06:12:10] I did. Oh, I've been getting that all day.
[06:12:12] Yeah.
[06:12:13] It's a little tight.
[06:12:14] So, like, you put a phone in there, and it's just like,
[06:12:16] Oh, it's my float.
[06:12:19] It's a little bit in here, but it's like that.
[06:12:21] I have to put this in a little while.
[06:12:22] That's definitely what I put on my face.
[06:12:27] We are having this phase.
[06:12:29] The ending of the ending is 146.
[06:12:32] Oh, wow. And if he sold out in like three minutes, you?
[06:12:35] Yeah, we almost crash the upside.
[06:12:37] That's crazy.
[06:12:46] Are they holding? Can you guys hear it or no?
[06:12:50] They can. Oh, they're saying perfect now.
[06:12:52] Right, this bottle will get it. Yeah, we're good here. That's crazy.
[06:12:55] Make sure they have the freedom to fill them up.
[06:12:58] Yes.
[06:12:59] Yeah.
[06:13:01] I hope we're doing better than Thomas L. Friedman.
[06:13:04] I guess we'll go faster.
[06:13:06] Yeah, you hear that in your times?
[06:13:09] Yeah.
[06:13:10] I think you got a one for us to do.
[06:13:13] Oh, are you escorting the team?
[06:13:15] No, it was a good one.
[06:13:16] I'm going to try this, find the...
[06:13:25] The problem is I need to go meet with the AV team super.
[06:13:31] Yeah, you can just leave me with the camera here, hold on.
[06:13:34] How do we?
[06:13:35] I should see you somewhere at least.
[06:13:36] How do we get on Wi-Fi?
[06:13:42] We do it live chat.
[06:13:44] We do these things live, okay?
[06:13:46] Sometimes it's going to be a show.
[06:13:47] I think what the Wi-Fi plus the...
[06:13:55] plus the sims will be good.
[06:14:02] No, that's the problem.
[06:14:04] The problem is that we don't know how to, this is a newer bag that we've never actually had to connect to the Wi-Fi on,
[06:14:10] because we've never had a situation where the fake concrete actually impeded on receiving signals.
[06:14:19] So we're trying to figure out how to even connect to the Wi-Fi.
[06:14:23] good even has that availability on the TVU backpack.
[06:14:27] But we currently have.
[06:14:30] Also Chad, I'm intentionally aiming to
[06:14:32] came away from these sort of staffer.
[06:14:34] People that are his son, hence the interesting
[06:14:38] thing you need to let him make the pact alive.
[06:14:40] Signals okay right now, yeah, but we're out of
[06:14:42] theirs.
[06:14:43] Well, okay, is it going on now?
[06:14:45] I'm watching this video.
[06:14:51] It's pretty similar right now.
[06:14:52] I can't read the rest of this GQ article now, which kind of sucks, but they were just
[06:15:02] writing, they were just putting my choice clothes on the GQ article now.
[06:15:07] Did you see CQ?
[06:15:08] The back of the board, like we never had this.
[06:15:10] We never had this as you before with a TV backpack.
[06:15:13] Yeah.
[06:15:14] I think there is a Wi-Fi town.
[06:15:15] Yeah, I mean it's just a...
[06:15:16] It cuts every now and then, and when it does, it's like a brief moment of passage for six.
[06:15:21] It's not that.
[06:15:22] Put your daughter down with her.
[06:15:23] Wait.
[06:15:24] Hold on.
[06:15:25] Wait, both the camera and the back side?
[06:15:28] No, just the camera.
[06:15:29] Just the camera.
[06:15:30] Oh, okay.
[06:15:32] Oh.
[06:15:33] Almost pulled the camera off.
[06:15:37] I don't think there's a way to do it.
[06:15:42] Is he saying there's a way to do it?
[06:15:44] Okay.
[06:15:45] Okay. We are working on getting
[06:16:01] Okay.
[06:16:02] Is it taking a photo to the QR code going to be enough?
[06:16:05] No, no.
[06:16:06] No.
[06:16:07] No.
[06:16:08] No.
[06:16:09] Okay.
[06:16:11] Just give that to your account number.
[06:16:14] Okay.
[06:16:15] I have to have this weird angle chat.
[06:16:23] Unfortunately.
[06:16:24] This is the difference between five, five foot 11 and six foot.
[06:16:30] You're five for the 11, I'm six foot.
[06:16:39] How long is the, sorry to clear you guys,
[06:16:41] how long is the intro speech that I have to do?
[06:16:43] It's not long, right?
[06:16:45] 15 minutes?
[06:16:47] Do you guys know the BBC pilot?
[06:16:49] Thank you.
[06:16:50] I don't, I was going to freestyle.
[06:16:53] I didn't realize it was going to be 15 minutes.
[06:16:56] You were like, oh yeah.
[06:16:57] Oh, it was UBC visitor.
[06:17:00] Okay, I thought the EVC visitor should just have a lot of information we've already had.
[06:17:07] No, I know.
[06:17:08] Oh, salt.
[06:17:09] No, no, no.
[06:17:10] It's the other space is worse, but this is fun.
[06:17:13] Oh, God.
[06:17:14] I forgot it's 15 minutes speech.
[06:17:16] Oh, my God.
[06:17:17] Is it fine if I don't do 15 minutes?
[06:17:19] Okay.
[06:17:20] Okay.
[06:17:21] What's the location?
[06:17:23] The entrance.
[06:17:24] The entrance.
[06:17:25] The entrance.
[06:17:26] I do that. I do eight hours a day so I usually lean into that but there's a difference between just going up on stage and riffing versus writing a 15-minute speech, you know?
[06:17:46] And then what happens if it comes to the night time?
[06:17:49] Is it Q&A?
[06:17:50] Yeah.
[06:17:51] I think you can go in that as usual.
[06:17:53] As soon as I'm floundering and failing and flailing around.
[06:17:57] OK.
[06:17:59] I'm so stupid.
[06:18:11] Is this still, or are you still?
[06:18:16] Here you can see you can stay a little bit more comfortable.
[06:18:26] The point is that basically they activate the Wi-Fi through the phone, because there
[06:18:35] is a landing page, it's a thick, except a acknowledge on it.
[06:18:41] that area. I'm just stopping you from being able to activate it. So it's better if there
[06:18:48] is no landing page and you go to like a secure one or whatever that has like a
[06:18:52] It's an allagant.
[06:18:53] Yeah.
[06:18:54] Yeah.
[06:18:55] Let's get a word of my feet, she's ready.
[06:18:57] I think we're having to put funny music on the second.
[06:19:01] Yeah, one of us can just go with which is quite a...
[06:19:05] Add song and dance to your spirit on a sub-fog.
[06:19:08] I didn't realize it.
[06:19:09] I didn't realize it.
[06:19:10] Yeah, yeah.
[06:19:11] I didn't realize it.
[06:19:12] I didn't realize it.
[06:19:13] I didn't realize it.
[06:19:14] I thought it was like, I just go in there and like, hey, America, America first means everybody else
[06:19:19] And then we sit down and we do a Q&A.
[06:19:23] I'm just going to get up there and start singing,
[06:19:28] and we're at sun in the sky.
[06:19:32] The Mandarin version.
[06:19:35] White boys be perfect, man.
[06:19:37] They're every Chinese.
[06:19:38] They're the Q&A.
[06:19:45] Which this was a beer.
[06:19:49] What about the right one?
[06:19:54] You just can't both of them.
[06:19:57] That is not intuitive at all.
[06:19:59] First of all, you're going to put your phone on the bag.
[06:20:02] You're going to take the second one to enter the landing page as the phone.
[06:20:06] Or as the bag.
[06:20:07] And then if you have a landing page, the first one to enter the landing page.
[06:20:10] You're going to land setting.
[06:20:11] And then it gives them a good look.
[06:20:14] That's crazy.
[06:20:16] Yeah, but I think I was like, okay, we did drop down.
[06:20:33] All right, if we just reach out, we got you, bro.
[06:20:46] So, down and raise them bullet points, I can't even sit down, we have to do this camera
[06:20:53] thing right now.
[06:20:56] So, I can't even like go...
[06:20:58] Yeah, I can't even do this.
[06:21:07] Okay, hold on, let's mute the microphone before, let me leave.
[06:21:11] Yeah, don't say anything right now.
[06:21:14] right now. Okay, march is gone.
[06:21:30] Look at the bag. That's crazy. It's too heavy. Normally we don't use this arm as much.
[06:21:40] We only use the arm unit stable
[06:21:45] So yeah, I have a 15-minute speech that I'm going to be delivering which is not going to be 15 minutes. Let's be real and then after the 15-minute speech
[06:21:54] there is not 15 minutes
[06:21:56] we will
[06:22:02] We will be
[06:22:04] Holy crap I got so many notifications after that
[06:22:10] I'll be doing a Q&A, not entirely certain as how long this goes.
[06:22:17] But you look like the worst bodyguard.
[06:22:25] Okay, so they're all in the library in the pages, which is probably not the case.
[06:22:35] Did you ask the team what it looks like if there's a landing page?
[06:22:38] They all have landing pages?
[06:22:39] Yeah, yeah.
[06:22:40] This is, this is that's what I'm kind of working with now.
[06:22:53] Oh, he sent the PDF.
[06:22:55] I'm tearing it.
[06:22:56] Oh, OK.
[06:23:05] OK, notes.
[06:23:06] She didn't mention he did rivalry.
[06:23:18] Tim Bitz.
[06:23:37] What else what else?
[06:23:43] No, I'm
[06:23:53] All right you guys talk it out powerful middle power alliance should candidate leader global middle power trade security and digital alliance
[06:24:06] Middle powers can develop sovereignty through cooperative agreements against the domineering
[06:24:17] force that has been America, the driving force behind the new world order, the liberal
[06:24:23] internationalist order that is currently falling apart.
[06:24:27] these middle power alliances would do best to recognize.
[06:24:46] Don't sweat it.
[06:24:47] I have no problem actually talking about 50 minutes.
[06:24:50] This is very bisexual lighting.
[06:24:52] Yeah, I know.
[06:24:57] Tom Freeman got a comfy chair at the L amount, no, I have the same stage, chatter.
[06:25:13] Use your platform to address the rise of freight of phobia rampant in our country at this time.
[06:25:25] Tell the Economist your drink, don't.
[06:25:44] carney speech at Davos.
[06:25:51] I was supposed to...
[06:25:57] I didn't.
[06:26:00] Yeah, that happened.
[06:26:02] Me too earlier.
[06:26:03] Okay, good.
[06:26:04] So I'm not alone.
[06:26:05] He's going to go with supposed to signal.
[06:26:08] Yeah.
[06:26:10] Yeah, this is by sexual labor.
[06:26:22] Yeah, signal the passage of the farmer.
[06:26:29] Let's take a check on the screens, do you?
[06:26:40] Watch like the fashions movements of the past.
[06:26:47] And then I throw in the graph sheet quote, the old world is dying, a new world, struggles
[06:26:58] to be born from the ashes, because it takes over my life to the bags of life
[06:27:21] by when I'm trying to connect it, I can't talk to the discord guys and want to make
[06:27:25] She had something to do.
[06:27:26] Something to answer from then.
[06:27:30] And then go in and try.
[06:27:43] Just hit him with the J.C.I. settlers.
[06:27:45] Okay.
[06:27:55] And they will cap the cord if you have that often.
[06:28:08] It's so funny.
[06:28:09] Chatters are literally trying to...
[06:28:11] I know.
[06:28:12] Yeah.
[06:28:13] I promise you guys what we're dealing with.
[06:28:18] This is because the pack is running and I'm gonna turn it up.
[06:28:22] Okay, cool, should be able to do it now.
[06:28:24] hold this again. I don't say I've promised no chatter. I've experienced
[06:28:35] I'm having it a very bite search for a time in my life. How are the chairs on the
[06:28:39] stage? I don't know.
[06:28:46] Chattas with speech over I fell asleep. No, I haven't even written it yet.
[06:28:50] That's the fact you're ready, I need to help you so far.
[06:28:57] A new world is birth-maxing, and the old world-doids are being monster-mahogged.
[06:29:06] Talk about how progressive meat picks can change the world.
[06:29:27] Talk about the ASU FRAC guy.
[06:29:32] just their max on stage.
[06:29:47] You don't have a team to write a shift for you dog?
[06:29:50] What makes you think I have a team for anything?
[06:29:55] Yeah, um, oh, yeah, you want to try that for what reason?
[06:30:08] Oh, you can do it because you don't have it.
[06:30:11] Well, I think we'll have, it's the room is open like this.
[06:30:15] We should have connected it.
[06:30:17] You know what?
[06:30:18] Yeah.
[06:30:19] I think we have like eight secrets there.
[06:30:22] I'm pretty sure it'll be.
[06:30:24] You can go you can go test it you can go into the room right now with the camera
[06:30:27] Not show anything. Let's go let's go
[06:30:31] Yeah, I'll check. Let's go look at it. Yeah, you want it. Well
[06:30:35] Okay, I'll stay here. I'll
[06:30:40] Sure, I mean we're away as soon as you got up. They went green screen. Okay. Yeah
[06:30:48] Yeah
[06:30:50] Okay, chat box on taking you
[06:30:54] I'm in the back.
[06:30:56] I'm in the back.
[06:30:57] I'm in.
[06:30:59] I'm in.
[06:31:24] you
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[06:51:54] you
[06:52:24] I would love to get this till the moment you walk out.
[06:52:53] You ingest swap on stage, but I'd be too crazy.
[06:52:57] Yeah, I think we're good now.
[06:53:00] All right, I think in here, I can hear you.
[06:53:02] You don't believe I've got a 105 millimeter.
[06:53:12] We were just discussing how impossible this would be
[06:53:16] to film with just like our phone, I mean,
[06:53:20] not phone, our hand cam set up.
[06:53:22] I disagree. And March disagrees with me and he thinks that we could do it one love Mike one reserve throw in the
[06:53:30] This is much lower of a crap
[06:53:52] you
[06:54:22] I don't know why I'm not getting any internet, and I'm on the regular event Wi-Fi, is it working
[06:54:46] on yours?
[06:54:47] Can they see?
[06:54:48] Yeah.
[06:54:49] Oh, okay, that's good.
[06:54:51] Or is it effing?
[06:54:53] It's a little sadder.
[06:54:55] Very unsafe.
[06:54:58] Oh, I'm not on the event Wi-Fi.
[06:55:01] It went back to the backpack Wi-Fi for some reason.
[06:55:04] No, I don't want that.
[06:55:05] I want the visitor Wi-Fi.
[06:55:08] Can you just stand the Wi-Fi on the back?
[06:55:11] No.
[06:55:12] That's what's been interfering with my attempts.
[06:55:13] No.
[06:55:19] This is the same exact hardware that most television channels use, but the monitoring situation
[06:55:39] is often times a little bit more difficult.
[06:55:41] Yeah.
[06:55:45] It's not. Is it not worth any of this on the way?
[06:55:47] In the middle of the changes step to step, but like where I'm getting it.
[06:55:51] Okay.
[06:55:52] I mean, I have internet. It's just Chad Arena's not.
[06:55:57] Oh, it's working.
[06:55:58] I just can't move from this spot.
[06:56:02] Perfect.
[06:56:05] Yeah, right here it's good.
[06:56:07] Yep, perfect.
[06:56:08] You didn't miss the you didn't miss the speed at all
[06:56:11] Super unstable can't they bro series with the suit? Yeah, oh also I
[06:56:16] I mess some people I mess some fans some of you guys that are normally in the chat and
[06:56:23] Earlier when we were trying to figure out how to like put the feed that you will get that you saw and
[06:56:29] They immediately clowned on me said nobody wears suits in Vancouver. What are you doing? You look like you're 40 you look like a drunk uncle
[06:56:37] just lazured me, just peppered me with commentary.
[06:56:43] And it's the one time that I wore a suit.
[06:56:46] I normally never wear a suit.
[06:56:48] I never wore a tie even if I do wear a suit every now and then.
[06:56:51] And it's like a unique suit.
[06:56:52] This is the most like clean cut normal outfit that I've ever had.
[06:56:57] And I got absolutely destroyed.
[06:57:03] And I was like immediately shifted the blame on the you guys.
[06:57:06] And I was like, well, I wore this because, like, chat told me.
[06:57:09] And then they were like, why would you ever listen to chat?
[06:57:11] Which, again, that's like, yeah, why would I ever listen to chat?
[06:57:16] Devastating maneuver.
[06:57:20] Oh, this is just the lining of the pocket.
[06:57:26] So, you know, I'm cooked.
[06:57:31] I'm cooked.
[06:57:32] My zipper was unzipped.
[06:57:37] I just realized that too.
[06:57:40] This is L after L after L.
[06:57:48] Anyway, we got like five minutes remaining.
[06:57:51] They're going to do an introductory speech,
[06:57:53] or not introductory speech.
[06:57:54] They're going to intro me.
[06:57:55] They're going to intro the moderator.
[06:57:56] The moderator is going to intro me.
[06:57:57] I'm going to go out there.
[06:57:58] We're going to flip it over.
[06:57:59] We're going to flip it over to the regular live show.
[06:58:01] regular live stream, you'll see us on the regular live stream.
[06:58:03] And then after that, we'll say our goodbyes.
[06:58:06] And we'll piece out.
[06:58:07] And then we'll do the CBC interview and Q&A
[06:58:11] with the student fans.
[06:58:13] So excited for all of that.
[06:58:16] There will be a Q&A portion.
[06:58:18] Most of it is going to be Q&A.
[06:58:20] There's like a small brief introductory speech
[06:58:22] where I'll come in and paraphrase a bunch of quotes
[06:58:28] from much more intelligent people than myself.
[06:58:31] and butcher them and slaughter them.
[06:58:33] And then talk about how American dominance
[06:58:37] is not necessarily great for Canada,
[06:58:39] nor is it great for even the American working class.
[06:58:42] And that, as the world struggles to find an alternative,
[06:58:45] I think there are some countries that have focused on
[06:58:48] their own personal development.
[06:58:50] Countries, of course, I'm referencing to such a China.
[06:58:53] And I'll talk about how I think middle powers,
[06:58:57] as Mark Carney reference Canada and many others,
[06:59:00] a unique opportunity to go against American hegemony in this moment, not as an act of defiance.
[06:59:07] What is that?
[06:59:08] Open Presence.
[06:59:09] Thank you for the hundred gift of substance use, Christ.
[06:59:10] Not as simply an act of defiance against anti-imperialism but an act of sovereignty in order
[06:59:16] to maintain national sovereignty in order to maintain their cultures in order to make sure
[06:59:21] that their citizens don't get the worst end of the bargain as they have been consistently
[06:59:29] with American international trade engineering.
[06:59:33] There are numerous initiatives that are at play right now,
[06:59:36] whether it be the breaks nations,
[06:59:37] but that you could be a very strong contender
[06:59:39] as a powerful block on its own against the American
[06:59:45] hegemony.
[06:59:45] And I think now is a time for self preservation
[06:59:48] for these middle powers.
[06:59:49] I'm just literally freestyling right now.
[06:59:53] So I'm trying to figure out how I will go from here.
[06:59:56] Hopefully I'll be able to remember all that or just say all of that.
[07:00:03] Just pull the body if that happens.
[07:00:04] Yeah, I'll just play the body like here, this is what I did say.
[07:00:08] Hopefully I don't just like break when I see this crowd.
[07:00:13] People are coming up to me like, are you nervous?
[07:00:15] the people of its anger and nervous and maybe pre-speached.
[07:00:29] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[07:00:41] Sweet and has a lunch at the September.
[07:00:45] Watch a gentleman's Gazette.
[07:00:46] They have good tips regarding suits.
[07:00:48] Oh, chatter.
[07:00:51] Okay, perfect.
[07:00:53] Okay, perfect, three minutes and then when it starts all swap it over there, so we'll do that.
[07:01:06] Yeah.
[07:01:11] There's water on the stage for today and this is one of the podiums.
[07:01:17] Thank you.
[07:01:19] No.
[07:01:20] I'm good.
[07:01:22] We're going to freestyle it.
[07:01:24] First time in Canada, first time in Vancouver, first time we're in a suit really.
[07:01:29] I don't really do any of this stuff.
[07:01:31] So that's what I'm going to have, so I'm going to open it.
[07:01:36] Oh, there's smoke cigarettes still, this will be a good time.
[07:01:46] I'll hit one right now.
[07:01:49] Inside the not in there.
[07:01:51] Go outside.
[07:01:52] Just rip a boat.
[07:01:57] Yeah.
[07:02:00] Yeah, I'll do that.
[07:02:01] But, oh, we're swapping over to it.
[07:02:08] Oh, you're worth it.
[07:02:11] All right, everybody.
[07:02:12] I'm swapping it over to the main ingest, so you guys can actually get a feel for the crowd
[07:02:17] to the best of your ability.
[07:02:19] You'll be seeing me in a little bit.
[07:02:21] I'll be long.
[07:07:01] Thank you, I don't usually get such a nice applause for me guys.
[07:07:30] Thank you so much.
[07:07:33] My name's Allison McFarland.
[07:07:34] I'm the director of the School of Public Policy and Global Affairs
[07:07:37] here at the University of British Columbia.
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[07:12:50] I bet I bet Thomas Friedman didn't get that kind of reception anyway no disrespect to all
[07:13:10] the previous guests I'm actually probably going to live a much worse speech than everyone
[07:13:15] that came before me and then everyone that will come after me including but not limited
[07:13:20] of Rachel Maddow, especially considering that I just found out
[07:13:24] that I'm sharing a stage in a program with Thomas Friedman
[07:13:27] and Rachel Maddow approximately 10 minutes before I got out
[07:13:31] of the car and I walked in and they told me,
[07:13:36] oh, you have a speech, and I was like, oh, yeah,
[07:13:38] you know, like a two-minute speech, something like that,
[07:13:41] and they're like, you signed on for 15 minutes.
[07:13:44] And I thought to myself, well, I done did it again.
[07:13:48] This is probably what like the 20th time
[07:13:52] that I've done one of these sorts of college speeches
[07:13:56] where I just come out on stage and start blurting it out.
[07:13:59] And I have no understanding of what the event is,
[07:14:03] but I'm gonna try to do my very best.
[07:14:05] Especially considering that I speak for eight hours
[07:14:09] uninterrupted or usually interrupted with chat.
[07:14:13] It's not gonna be too difficult, I hope.
[07:14:16] But today obviously we're gonna be talking
[07:14:18] about one of my favorite subjects to discuss.
[07:14:21] According to all my naysayers, including the CIA, I believe.
[07:14:27] I don't know if they're in the room right now.
[07:14:29] Sorry, I'm sorry that you guys can stop me
[07:14:33] from coming to Vancouver.
[07:14:36] But I'm going to be talking about one of my favorite subjects, according to my haters,
[07:14:46] which is America Bad.
[07:14:49] I think a lot of Canadians have learned that lesson if they weren't aware of this concept,
[07:14:55] except for the Albertans, that America is, as a matter of fact, somewhat of a parasitic
[07:15:01] force in the global new world order.
[07:15:05] And it was actually one of my only failed predictions of 2025 when I thought that Pierre
[07:15:12] Poliver, am I saying that right?
[07:15:16] Poliver?
[07:15:17] Doesn't matter.
[07:15:18] Doesn't matter.
[07:15:19] This college campus is so low.
[07:15:21] You don't even, anyway, one of those guys that's usually, well, I guess he wasn't really
[07:15:28] But usually the conservative party from where we're standing in America always tries to be American for some weird reason, and I guess because of Donald Trump
[07:15:36] That really backed fired spectacularly last election cycle for you guys, and I thought he had a shot and real shot until
[07:15:43] I found out that Canadians do value dignity and sovereignty and don't want to be annexed by the United States of America
[07:15:50] American, which is a very healthy attitude to have, especially considering that I think
[07:16:02] with this last iteration of our beautiful President Donald Trump's attempts at annexing
[07:16:10] force of the annexing Greenland, which is a part of our NATO security cooperation, so
[07:16:16] So I'm going to tell Donald Trump that, especially after that,
[07:16:21] we saw many European leaders openly take to the stage at Davos
[07:16:26] and say, we'd rather be happy vessels than angry slaves.
[07:16:32] And I thought about that quite a bit.
[07:16:34] And I thought about Mark Carney's speech, Mark Carney's speech quite
[07:16:38] a bit.
[07:16:40] And I think that there is a failure of the previous liberal international order and consensus.
[07:16:51] And I don't think it's necessarily just Donald Trump, even though we like to talk about him as the Harvard Bureau of DOOM.
[07:16:57] The reality of the matter is, these systems have been collapsing for quite a while. If you're in the third world, if you're in a developing nation,
[07:17:03] you already know exactly what it's like to be on the receiving end of endless amounts of bloodshed and domination.
[07:17:09] Of course, people of my political background have been talking about this for years.
[07:17:14] Lenin was one of those people that talked about it quite a bit.
[07:17:19] In here, he was in being an absolute necessity as a global capitalist order as
[07:17:26] Providence rates have attended to decline.
[07:17:28] And we've seen this endless militarism and endless domination in the global
[07:17:32] global south in countries that are in the periphery at the behest of super
[07:17:37] profits for international capital. But unfortunately now America's appetite for
[07:17:46] instability and all of the potential promises have set instability for
[07:17:52] international capital has put new targets in its cross-airs as Mark
[07:17:58] of Iranian men, many others have talked about middle powers.
[07:18:02] We're talking about the European Union, Canada, and many other countries that are stuck
[07:18:07] between what seems like American domination and the global liberal capitalist hegemony,
[07:18:16] and potentially the rise of regional power such as Russia that do not shy away from iradent
[07:18:23] is action and oftentimes violent military conquest
[07:18:27] and the behemoth of manufacturing that is China.
[07:18:31] Now, as you guys already know,
[07:18:34] brics nations have realized that this bargain of American domination
[07:18:41] was not always going to work out well for them
[07:18:43] and that's the reason why they have sought out alternatives
[07:18:47] and tried to create different trade agreements
[07:18:50] and maybe even currency cooperative agreements with China,
[07:18:55] specifically two at times,
[07:18:56] leveraged their relationship that they have
[07:18:58] with the United States of America.
[07:19:00] And I've been a long time advocate in developing European sovereignty
[07:19:05] and developing sovereignty for countries like Canada.
[07:19:08] And now I believe is the time for these middle powers
[07:19:12] to be able to develop sovereignty once again.
[07:19:16] And I fear that if these countries don't do it,
[07:19:19] specifically Canada, I worry that American domination will at first look like the
[07:19:27] tariffs negotiations that Donald Trump has seemingly had passively thrown around and
[07:19:33] then in the worst case scenario complete military annexation. Now that might sound
[07:19:39] terrifying to you guys, but we have the most peaceful option ahead of us at least for
[07:19:44] the time being, because this growth that we are seeing, this change, this nuclear option
[07:19:51] of trade, this destruction of international agreements that America was not only the safeguard
[07:19:58] of, but also the architects of are coming to a close.
[07:20:03] What comes next is up to all of us.
[07:20:04] And by that I mean not just international capital, capital owners of different sorts,
[07:20:09] petty bourgeois, small business owners, mom of pop land, landlords in the like, I can
[07:20:13] talking about you, the people, the workers,
[07:20:17] you who comprise the masses.
[07:20:19] And the quicker we develop sovereignty for ourselves,
[07:20:22] both in our workplaces, both in our universities,
[07:20:25] the quicker we organize for ourselves,
[07:20:27] the easier it will be for all of us to preserve
[07:20:30] said national sovereignty and to hopefully
[07:20:34] make it as costly as possible for America
[07:20:36] to continue dominating the world
[07:20:39] and engineering whatever kind of design they have.
[07:20:41] I saw a piece of this in action when I went to Minneapolis because American domination
[07:20:51] has often put its cross-airs on developing nations that I talked about before Iraq, Afghanistan,
[07:20:59] as recently as we saw in Venezuela, where the American government kidnapped the leader
[07:21:04] of Venezuela at his wife and is facilitating a mock trial, a sham trial at this moment.
[07:21:10] don't have to love the Venezuelan government.
[07:21:15] You don't have to be a communist or a socialist
[07:21:17] to recognize what that says for the international order,
[07:21:21] which was something that many European and even Canadian
[07:21:25] partners did not recognize initially as they celebrated
[07:21:28] this action only to receive the exact same type of lack
[07:21:33] of autonomy when Donald Trump was cross-airs on Greenland.
[07:21:37] They shouldn't take for Trump to go after a white partner country in Europe, a NATO partner
[07:21:45] country in Europe for people to wiseen up to our grand design.
[07:21:52] And when I say, I'm talking about the American government.
[07:21:56] But the international destabilization that we have caused came back into the home front
[07:22:01] as imperialism often does in the form of fascism.
[07:22:05] Since this fascism arose from the failures of liberalism, only but a hundred years ago,
[07:22:11] the new wave of fascism is no longer seen as a revolutionary movement, but instead a movement
[07:22:18] away from liberalism.
[07:22:20] The American Republican Party is now transitioning away from a liberal, conservative party
[07:22:27] to a fascist party.
[07:22:29] And as Fashas often do, they are invested in domination and cruelty for coolty's sake.
[07:22:35] And the reason why I brought up Minneapolis, Minnesota, and my experience is there as
[07:22:40] because, as of today, Tom Homan has decided that they are retreating the ice occupation
[07:22:47] that unfolded in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and the only reason, yes, and the only reason
[07:22:57] that happened was because the people got together, they organized, and they protected
[07:23:03] their neighbors in Wall. There was tremendous cruelty, kidnapping, taking place on a daily
[07:23:09] basis, and community defense, and people that got shot and killed like Renee Good and
[07:23:14] Alex Peretti, rest in power. The people did not stand down under minus 35 degrees Fahrenheit.
[07:23:23] I don't know if you guys use Fahrenheit here.
[07:23:25] Mine is 35 degree Fahrenheit,
[07:23:26] I wonder, it was very cold.
[07:23:29] 50, 60,000 people got together
[07:23:32] and did a day of direct action.
[07:23:35] Some would have a general strike.
[07:23:36] They call it general strike.
[07:23:37] It's not the same as the traditional general strike,
[07:23:39] but there was a day of action.
[07:23:41] Small businesses from the community
[07:23:42] also participated in this blackout.
[07:23:45] And in the aftermath of all of this participation
[07:23:48] in community defense, ICE was forced to back away.
[07:23:52] This is the most peaceful option.
[07:23:55] JFK said those who make peaceful revolution
[07:24:00] impossible make violent retribution inevitable.
[07:24:05] And I fear that violent retribution
[07:24:07] as the last option, which is why I'm here to talk today
[07:24:10] to you guys about what it means
[07:24:12] that the international order is falling apart.
[07:24:15] The old world is dying.
[07:24:17] A new world struggles to be born from its ashes.
[07:24:20] Now is the time for monsters.
[07:24:23] Grom, she said that, I hope I didn't destroy that quote.
[07:24:25] I was trying to paraphrase it.
[07:24:27] And on that note, I think I'm ready to go.
[07:24:29] I did 15 minutes.
[07:24:30] I don't even know how I did that.
[07:24:33] I just...
[07:24:34] Yeah.
[07:24:38] OK, should I just go sit down?
[07:24:44] I'm going to do that now.
[07:24:50] All right, and that was great, and clearly they love you.
[07:25:04] Yeah, otherwise, they would not have sat through that.
[07:25:06] They were like, boo, tomatoes!
[07:25:08] Well, no, I know you feel the love in a lot of places that you go, so I know you just
[07:25:17] were a person who was like, go in, or I'm down to stone,
[07:25:21] as you go all the time.
[07:25:23] Yeah.
[07:25:24] Yeah.
[07:25:25] You also, I mean, you, in part, help make it,
[07:25:28] I'm down to stone, which, you know,
[07:25:29] that's what I'm doing.
[07:25:30] Yeah, sure.
[07:25:31] Yeah.
[07:25:32] Each of our law, brother, Islamic Republic of New York,
[07:25:35] let's go.
[07:25:35] Yeah.
[07:25:37] So, I mean, you know, there's a lot of love everywhere you go,
[07:25:41] and I think a lot of people, you know,
[07:25:44] young people, especially, you know,
[07:25:45] I got tons of students at Fordham University
[07:25:49] where I teach and also a lot of students,
[07:25:51] former students here at UBC who are just so excited
[07:25:55] about what you do, right?
[07:25:56] And the fact that you are this massive prominent voice
[07:26:00] on the left, it means a lot to a lot of people.
[07:26:05] At the same time, you're at your critics,
[07:26:08] you're at your haters, you address that,
[07:26:10] and just the fact that, like, I mean,
[07:26:12] perhaps too much, that's what they tell me.
[07:26:14] Yeah, but I mean, I think that, you know,
[07:26:19] there are some of the criticisms that you get.
[07:26:22] And so what I wanted to do sort of just early on
[07:26:24] and in some of these early questions is just allow you
[07:26:27] to just address some of those things.
[07:26:29] Yeah, that's the way to get out of the way.
[07:26:31] And then we can come back to the big question.
[07:26:33] Yeah.
[07:26:34] You came in hot.
[07:26:36] You were like 15 minutes.
[07:26:38] Watch this.
[07:26:38] Yeah.
[07:26:39] Let's go.
[07:26:41] So, no, but I mean, this is a,
[07:26:43] This is a kind of general question about our responsibility.
[07:26:47] So thinking about it in terms of what we do as academics and
[07:26:55] podcasters, journalists, and the things that you do, including like the fact
[07:26:59] that you're, I mean, you just spoke to this, right?
[07:27:01] With the anti-ites protest, the fact that you are very much on the ground,
[07:27:05] and you have this form of activism that, you know, I think is really,
[07:27:10] really admirable and really important to be doing that sort of work.
[07:27:16] What I'm wondering is, you know, when it comes to the question of responsibility, how do
[07:27:21] you see that?
[07:27:22] What would you say your primary responsibilities are when it comes to activism and in the
[07:27:28] world of streaming and sort of just in online spaces more generally?
[07:27:33] Yeah, I try to deliver truthful analysis.
[07:27:39] That's both true to myself and true to the facts on the ground,
[07:27:44] to the best of my ability.
[07:27:46] And I do think about that responsibility all the time.
[07:27:50] It's something that I try to maintain
[07:27:52] to the best of my ability, because I understand that for people
[07:27:56] under the age of 40, I used to say 25, now I'm saying 40.
[07:28:02] I, a lot of people see me as they're primary news source, something that's open, something
[07:28:06] that's on in the background throughout their day, it's almost like an eight-hour CNN broadcast.
[07:28:12] So I try to not maintain a level of professionalism in my commentary necessarily, but definitely
[07:28:18] maintain a level of professionalism when it comes to verifiable evidence that I address and
[07:28:24] back my analysis or build my analysis on top of.
[07:28:28] Unfortunately in this age of misinformation with AI, with bad faith actors, the democratization
[07:28:34] of media has opened up opportunities for unique voices like myself to be heard.
[07:28:39] Voices there are so unique amongst the masses, but voices that are not necessarily represented
[07:28:43] in mainstream resources, in mainstream outlets, in legacy papers and whatnot.
[07:28:49] But there's also the other side of that where there are a lot of people who lean into
[07:28:53] by us framing without even recognizing their own internal biases.
[07:28:58] And also, sometimes just lie, lying is OP, as I say all the time.
[07:29:02] People you would be shocked if you are unaware, if you only get your news from, I guess,
[07:29:07] CBC, or that's what they, that's what people, all of them, not a lot of CBC fans out here.
[07:29:13] Okay.
[07:29:14] Well, regardless, if you're only like reading the Guardian and your entire time,
[07:29:17] I mean, those are by us, they have different by us as well, but overall they have
[07:29:23] and interest in trying to maintain a truthful compass
[07:29:28] to the best of their ability,
[07:29:29] sometimes they lean too much into the state department side
[07:29:31] of things for my taste.
[07:29:33] But there is a whole world out there
[07:29:37] of people that take advantage of this information vacuum
[07:29:42] and just kind of makes stuff up
[07:29:45] in whichever way they see fit.
[07:29:47] And I try to combat against that
[07:29:49] to the best of my ability as well.
[07:29:51] Again, just real sort of testament to the importance of the kind of stuff that you do right.
[07:29:56] So there's also this lingering question, a lot of people have been wanting to ask.
[07:30:03] And so you've been very clear that your criticisms are, you know, when you talk about Israel, for example,
[07:30:11] that your criticisms are aimed at this really government and not Jewish people in general.
[07:30:17] And I know that you have many Jewish followers who agree with you on a lot of core issues, right?
[07:30:23] But even among those who agree with you on the issues, there are some that say that sometimes the way that you express that or the language that you use is, you know, for some, it's not productive.
[07:30:36] And so I wonder sort of how you think about that trade off and, you know, how you approach it.
[07:30:43] Yeah, I mean, this is a question I get all the time, and the way I see what I do, often
[07:30:49] times people say this is a cop-out, but the way I see what I do is I'm an entertainer first.
[07:30:55] And as someone who tries to make this information as palatable as possible, I'm always
[07:30:59] going to, you know, engage in hyperbole from time to time and try to crack jokes, even though
[07:31:05] a lot of the subject matter that I'm covering is very serious stuff.
[07:31:10] But I want to make it as accessible as possible, so in an effort to do so, there are
[07:31:15] going to be moments where I'm joking around, well, too much, and I'm people don't like
[07:31:20] it.
[07:31:21] But I think it's a valuable trade-off.
[07:31:25] I think that's totally a valuable trade-off.
[07:31:27] Another part of the equation, of course, is the constant back and forth communication
[07:31:31] I have with everyone.
[07:31:34] Anyone that follows me right now on Twitch, please subscribe, by the way, because this is
[07:31:38] is the installation of the Piker Broadcasting Service.
[07:31:42] Anyone that falls me for 10 minutes on Twitch can talk to me in real time, and whether
[07:31:47] I have 300,000 live concurrent viewers or 30,000 live concurrent viewers on constantly monitoring
[07:31:53] chat.
[07:31:54] To such a degree that anytime there's a journalism room that's covering what I'm doing,
[07:31:57] they're like, this is the most insane thing I've ever seen, how are you paying attention
[07:32:00] to anything that's going on.
[07:32:04] And I have this free flow back and forth communication style in my coverage as well that
[07:32:09] I'd bake into my coverage as well.
[07:32:10] And that creates a unique opportunity for bad faith.
[07:32:13] Actors from time to time are like, really piss me off.
[07:32:16] I mean, you're a lecturer.
[07:32:18] It's you, I'm sure you have bad students sometimes that are just annoying.
[07:32:22] You know what I mean?
[07:32:23] They come on through.
[07:32:24] They're like, no, that's not what happened actually.
[07:32:25] I know better and you're like, I'm your teacher.
[07:32:28] Yes, I do.
[07:32:29] Now of course there's professional safeguards there, but sometimes imagine if you could
[07:32:33] just like one of your students?
[07:32:35] Do you know what I mean?
[07:32:37] Yeah, it's awesome.
[07:32:39] You just try it.
[07:32:40] You put them in the last corner.
[07:32:42] We got online classes, virtual classes.
[07:32:44] But yeah, just click Zoom,
[07:32:47] shake that out of the room, that sort of thing.
[07:32:49] But of course, in that dialogue, there are moments
[07:32:54] that are very passionate because the issues
[07:32:56] that I'm talking about, I feel for and I get very impassioned
[07:33:01] times, and of course there are going to be moments of anger that might be unproductive,
[07:33:10] but that comes to the territory.
[07:33:12] And I feel like the medium itself has been so good in allowing people to have a say in
[07:33:19] the process and also learn and be entertained along the way that I think that's a totally
[07:33:26] reasonable trade offer, someone like myself.
[07:33:29] would you just a quick follow up?
[07:33:30] Would you say sort of provocation, too?
[07:33:32] Is it important for you to be provocative to generate responses?
[07:33:38] Um, provocative, as far as my commentary, yes.
[07:33:42] I mean, I, I used to have a show on the young tursk,
[07:33:44] called agitative propaganda.
[07:33:46] I think it's important to do agitative propaganda
[07:33:48] to unlock the class consciousness among the masses,
[07:33:52] which is missing from this equation.
[07:33:54] I think, especially in the Western world.
[07:33:56] But as far as like being provocative to say something crazy,
[07:34:00] no, that's not beneficial.
[07:34:02] I know people think that that is the reason why I'm saying
[07:34:05] certain things, whether or not America deserved
[07:34:08] a certain specific day.
[07:34:11] But no, that's just coming out of me sometimes
[07:34:12] when I'm just really angry.
[07:34:14] But you know what's interesting is, in my experience,
[07:34:16] what I found is that other people also share that same
[07:34:21] resentment.
[07:34:22] Other people also share that same anger.
[07:34:24] So I want to be yelling at a transphobic person
[07:34:26] for example, to, I don't even know if I should say that.
[07:34:29] When I yell at him, but I don't like how white supremacists
[07:34:34] racist or someone who is denying the genocide in Gaza,
[07:34:39] the sometimes there are moments where I lose a little bit of control.
[07:34:44] And then I get to say, have a day of ban.
[07:34:48] It's what it is.
[07:34:49] But that's not delivering.
[07:34:50] There's no like, if I had the option to not have those moments,
[07:34:55] I would choose not to have those moments for sure.
[07:34:58] Well, so I mean, since you just mentioned Gaza and so on Palestine, I have this question,
[07:35:04] which is in his book, one day everyone will have always been against this.
[07:35:11] Omar L.A. Cod, powerfully articulated this idea that with regard to the atrocities that
[07:35:18] have been suffered by the innocent in Palestine, this is how he puts it.
[07:35:24] day things will change. It is not so hard to believe, even during the worst of things that
[07:35:30] courage is more potent than contagion, that there are more invested in solidarity than
[07:35:37] in annihilation. That just as it has always been possible to look away, it is possible
[07:35:43] to stop looking away. So how do you align yourself in relation to what Omar expresses
[07:35:51] And do you agree with his position and is this why you have been so vocal about Palestine and about Palestinians?
[07:35:58] Yeah, absolutely. So I think people are good people in general. I think everyone is a kind person
[07:36:06] but they are sometimes diluted or sometimes propagandized against certain positions and are made fearful of alternative
[07:36:17] alternative visions of a better future.
[07:36:19] So I try to remind myself of that all the time
[07:36:23] that everyone is at the end of the day,
[07:36:25] a victim of social conditioning.
[07:36:27] And that definitely guides my first principles.
[07:36:31] It guides my commentary quite a bit.
[07:36:35] I've been in anti-zionist and about anti-zionist
[07:36:38] for the last 12, 13 years of my professional media career.
[07:36:42] And there was a time.
[07:36:44] And it shouldn't even recede flags, really,
[07:36:49] because this is the most normal position.
[07:36:51] And I know it's shared by every single person in here,
[07:36:55] except for some plants may be in the audience.
[07:36:58] But it's a humanitarian position.
[07:37:01] It's born out of being anti-genocide, anti-fascist,
[07:37:07] anti-apartied.
[07:37:09] It's what I've learned.
[07:37:10] And I think that a lot of people have that,
[07:37:15] a lot of people starting point is that.
[07:37:18] And then they work their way away from that
[07:37:22] with tremendous amounts of social conditioning.
[07:37:25] So I think it's actually much more difficult
[07:37:29] to make people turn a blind eye to these atrocities.
[07:37:32] And there has been a tremendous amount of success
[07:37:35] in bringing people back to that position of empathy
[07:37:38] to that humanitarian perspective.
[07:37:41] And it's only because of the bravery
[07:37:43] exhibited by the Palestinians that were,
[07:37:46] or even in their final moments,
[07:37:48] showing exactly what Israel was doing.
[07:37:51] And I thought of myself living in the Imperial Corps,
[07:37:54] as someone who was profoundly privileged
[07:37:57] and profoundly fortunate that the best I could do
[07:38:00] was offer a voice to that voice,
[07:38:03] offer a voice to that perspective,
[07:38:04] to the best of my ability,
[07:38:06] spite of all the setbacks set by, you know, numerous advocacy organizations, lobbying efforts,
[07:38:12] efforts in the platforming and censorship, because it was the least I could have done.
[07:38:17] Because I knew that inevitably people were going to wake up to what was happening.
[07:38:24] And I think we're there now, we're there, that the overwhelming majorities of even Western
[07:38:30] society have now realized that this is untenable.
[07:38:34] A 14th century style siege taking place, a life Holocaust taking place in real time on
[07:38:42] people's phones that they can see in real time.
[07:38:45] I mean this is completely unacceptable and I think part of the reason why I do it is
[07:38:52] because I don't want those who were slain to die in vain and part of it is because I want
[07:38:59] to preserve the safety and security of those that remain.
[07:39:03] So, well said, appreciate you speaking to that.
[07:39:16] So I mean, we want to get to a lot of core issues and I think some of these were things
[07:39:23] that you addressed already in the introduction that you gave.
[07:39:28] And so, you know, part of this will be kind of circling back to things that you said
[07:39:32] and then just kind of elaborating on them.
[07:39:34] So, you know, of course, we're going to want to talk more about Canada and about US foreign
[07:39:38] policy in particular.
[07:39:42] So, again, you already spoke about this briefly, but when it comes to the views on Canada
[07:39:49] and the current government and the direction under Mark Carney, so, you know, Mark Carney
[07:39:54] has openly expressed desire to shift the way from the U.S.
[07:39:58] to China and other nations.
[07:40:02] Visa fee travel to China, baby.
[07:40:04] Uh-huh.
[07:40:05] Can't beat it.
[07:40:08] And so you already said this sort of in the lead up
[07:40:10] about the liberal international order and how that is
[07:40:14] in a sense, in the K.D.
[07:40:16] And I'm so Stephen Walt of Harvard Kennedy School.
[07:40:21] He saw this, you know, Mark Carney's fairly recent comments as an example of a significant
[07:40:28] moment of rupture in the whole liberal international order, right?
[07:40:32] And you also said in January, and again, kind of just repeated it here, that liberalism
[07:40:38] is essentially falling apart.
[07:40:41] So, you know, the question is, you know, for you to sort of elaborate on that, to elaborate
[07:40:46] on your perspective, again, why you think that is the case, and especially why Canada and
[07:40:51] Canadian government's recent position as a good sort of indicator of that.
[07:40:55] Yeah, I mean, first of all, I hope that Mark Carney follows through on that promise and
[07:41:00] it's not simply empty posturing and he's simply saying that so that he can cut a better
[07:41:07] deal with Donald Trump at the end of the day.
[07:41:12] Because it is a matter of life and death.
[07:41:13] It's always been a matter of life and death for those in the global south because the liberal
[07:41:17] international order, the New World Design Post World War II was very quickly and very
[07:41:24] effectively developed as a way to whip-up support against this new front in the Cold War,
[07:41:32] against communism, against socialism. And that was a dual-polar world back then. And
[07:41:41] And it's obvious that in the aftermath of the dissolution of the USSR, it was a
[07:41:46] U.D. polar world, it was the American hegemony, and since the 90s, I attribute a lot
[07:41:54] of the accelerated demise of Western liberal capitalist countries to the lack of competition,
[07:42:02] lack of ideological competition.
[07:42:04] I don't know if that's like a unique perspective in general.
[07:42:07] I feel like many people understand it to a certain degree, whether it be the expansion
[07:42:11] of welfare states in social democratic countries that are close enough to the USSR in order
[07:42:16] to not succumb to the threat of a good alternative, a scary alternative that might work.
[07:42:23] But I think the accelerated, fathureye, Reaganite ideology of neoliberalism, what some
[07:42:33] people call late-stage capitalism happened because of that lack of competition.
[07:42:39] And basically, I'm saying is that capitalists are victims of their own success.
[07:42:44] They sigma-grided it too hard and now they have endless appetite for profits to the
[07:42:53] best of their ability and for that reason, they have been dominating the most valuable
[07:42:58] perspective of production, which is labor.
[07:43:02] First, they went out and saw out markets that had cheaper alternatives for labor.
[07:43:09] And then they decided to continue dominating their own domestic labor force to the best
[07:43:14] of their ability.
[07:43:15] So, I think what I'm trying to get at, and this long-winded answer, is that this design
[07:43:23] was never beneficial for many countries in the periphery.
[07:43:27] It actually meant endless militarism, instability,
[07:43:31] puppet states that were established,
[07:43:33] and complete domination and bloodshed sanctions at times.
[07:43:38] And now, I think Europe and Canada
[07:43:44] are getting a little bit of that same taste as well.
[07:43:47] In ways that they never thought,
[07:43:49] perhaps due to Western showvenism,
[07:43:51] never thought that they would experience.
[07:43:54] So I hope that it's, like I said, not empty promise from Mark Carney, but a real testament,
[07:43:59] a real commitment to making sure that we find a more peaceful path forward for every
[07:44:05] single party involved and not just an opportunity for middle powers to basically secure
[07:44:12] better trade negotiations and continue business as usual politics.
[07:44:24] So would you say that when it comes to your position
[07:44:29] as being on the left, essentially, socialist, Marxist,
[07:44:37] Marx famously said that capitalism is going to produce
[07:44:43] its own grave figures, it is already when he wrote that
[07:44:47] at the time?
[07:44:49] So when it comes to the actualization of that,
[07:44:54] Do you think that it is still, I mean, do you look at it kind of similar to Marx as an
[07:45:01] inevitability, especially under these current conditions as you described it?
[07:45:07] Yes, and no, because I think the expense of welfare days have given a lifeline over and over again
[07:45:14] to afford domestic instability, and it's been very effective, I mean, America has destroyed
[07:45:21] labor militancy. I promise you, I mean, it's so bad in the United States of America
[07:45:27] that we have, I think, 9% labor union participation in the overall workforce, which is
[07:45:34] 6% lower than Chile, a country that we specifically dominated because they made the mistake
[07:45:42] of voting for a democratic socialist. We could then, and we installed Pinotche, and it was a
[07:45:51] neoliberal testing ground, and even then right now in modern Chile, they have a higher
[07:45:56] labor union participation in the United States of America.
[07:45:59] So it's been very effective in undermining any sort of left mobilization.
[07:46:07] And so for that reason, I think capital owners are very effective at engaging in class warfare
[07:46:14] and have been able to delude even regular working class people into believing that they
[07:46:19] are simply not an exploited proletariat, but temporarily embarrassed
[07:46:24] millionaires and billionaires.
[07:46:26] So for that reason, I think there is still no matter how much, no matter
[07:46:32] how much domination exists, there is still this attitude amongst the
[07:46:37] dispossess masses that things are probably fine.
[07:46:41] You know, I can go to Tim Horton's down the street and get one of the
[07:46:44] called the little timbits.
[07:46:46] little timbits or I go to McDonald's and get a big Mac and and there is some truth to that I mean
[07:46:51] I think treats play a big role in in sedating the masses for sure
[07:46:57] But conditions haven't worsened yet. I think
[07:47:01] Conditions have not gotten to the degree that it got to during the great depression for example
[07:47:07] but
[07:47:08] it does worry me that
[07:47:10] that the right-wing forces internationally are aware of the collapse of the previous order,
[07:47:20] and they're trying to get ahead of it to the best of their ability by organizing
[07:47:25] a fascist direction as fast as possible.
[07:47:29] I mean, we've already been seeing that in parts of Latin America, right, and I mean,
[07:47:35] this is a good sort of pivot to this question, and since you just mentioned Chile, right?
[07:47:38] So the US, of course, has had a long history of intervention in Latin America.
[07:47:44] Anybody who studies this knows about it.
[07:47:47] We know it has a long history.
[07:47:49] So Guatemala in 1954, Chile in 1973, as you said,
[07:47:56] Nicaragua from 1981, onward, and just like the list goes on.
[07:47:59] There's almost no country in Latin America that has not been touched
[07:48:04] by US military intervention.
[07:48:08] There is, though, and in the case of Venezuela recently,
[07:48:14] there seems to be something really different in some ways,
[07:48:18] because a lot of those interventions, like the ones
[07:48:21] in the 20th century, they tended to happen largely
[07:48:24] through covert operations, the CIA, and forms of subterfuge.
[07:48:31] It was often sort of like it wasn't out in the open.
[07:48:35] But what we just saw in Venezuela just over a month ago,
[07:48:38] and again, you already spoke to this,
[07:48:42] just the way that the US operated in that situation,
[07:48:45] and Trump's very brutal kind of bloodness
[07:48:49] about why they were doing it, literally coming out
[07:48:52] and saying we're going in for the oil.
[07:48:55] Like, there's something sort of different in the sense,
[07:48:58] and how the US is conducting itself abroad,
[07:49:01] and again, especially in Latin America.
[07:49:03] So you've spoken about this issue.
[07:49:05] I know at length, and you've addressed them many times,
[07:49:08] and not to mention on the importance of Cuba,
[07:49:11] and what's been going on there,
[07:49:14] this horrible sort of bargon blockade,
[07:49:18] and the effects of that's having.
[07:49:22] What do you think these cases of the recent case
[07:49:25] of Venezuela, and then also what is going on in Cuba?
[07:49:29] What do you think this says about how US foreign policy
[07:49:32] operates nowadays?
[07:49:33] It's vulgar imperialism.
[07:49:37] I mean, in some ways, it's out in the open,
[07:49:41] and the brazen ways in which Trump operates,
[07:49:45] saying the quiet part out loud,
[07:49:47] I guess makes my job a little bit easier.
[07:49:50] And that's a weird thing to say,
[07:49:53] because like these are things that I've talked about
[07:49:54] for years.
[07:49:56] American imperialism didn't happen overnight.
[07:50:00] It didn't start with Donald Trump.
[07:50:02] Donald Trump is basically brought it to the forefront and doesn't try to hide it under
[07:50:09] some kind of liberal international order patina that previous iterations of American
[07:50:15] governance has done, whether it be George W. Bush going out with Colin Powell and lying to
[07:50:22] the entirety of the United Nations and at least like presenting a reason as the wide military
[07:50:27] intervention is a necessity, and utilizing the mainstream resources, mainstream media,
[07:50:37] and effort to justify what came after Trump is not doing that. He's just saying, look,
[07:50:43] I'm going to Venezuela, they got oil, I'm going to take it, and there's nothing you can do about it.
[07:50:47] Sometimes he tries to do like, oh yeah, they are narcotraffickers, and then they drop that
[07:50:51] immediately, and they're like, no, actually just kidding, they're not narcotraffickers. I was just
[07:50:56] playing, I just wanted to get the oil.
[07:50:59] And in a way, I think it's a really tough time
[07:51:03] to be one of these like NATO Atlantis
[07:51:07] or one of these like liberal analysts
[07:51:09] that writes for foreign policy magazine,
[07:51:11] because everything that Donald Trump is doing
[07:51:14] is a play by play of what Lenin has interpreted
[07:51:19] as the necessity for imperialism.
[07:51:22] And I don't know where we go from here,
[07:51:26] as far as, like, whether people recognize that as wrong,
[07:51:31] I try to exhaust the contradictions of the best
[07:51:34] of my ability to explain to people
[07:51:35] like pointing to previous examples of failure
[07:51:39] with the global war on terror,
[07:51:40] even though it was very successful
[07:51:42] for the military and industrial complex,
[07:51:44] with ballooning contracts,
[07:51:45] it was great for Halibutin,
[07:51:46] it was great for development in the region,
[07:51:50] extraction of natural resources in the region for all of these massive conglomerates,
[07:51:57] Americans by and large didn't experience that economic prosperity, right?
[07:52:03] The concept of labor aristocracy is valid, it's true, having said that Americans never
[07:52:09] really got to experience the benefits of American Empire all that much.
[07:52:14] So I try to use that to the best of my ability to say, look, what we're doing in Venezuela,
[07:52:19] What we're trying to do in Cuba, this vulgar imperialism is not even beneficial for you.
[07:52:26] So we must organize the against it.
[07:52:29] We must chart a different path forward, one that focuses on international cooperation
[07:52:37] rather than endless domination.
[07:52:39] I don't know if that message is being well received by the right.
[07:52:45] I will say, many of them voted for Donald Trump because they thought he was anti-war,
[07:52:51] at least that's what they tell me.
[07:52:53] And then Donald Trump will come out and be like, are we're invading good and we're
[07:52:57] there for oil?
[07:52:58] And then boom, you see the approval rating on that military action, it's skyrock, it's on
[07:53:02] the right.
[07:53:03] They're like, oh, that's awesome.
[07:53:04] That's what I wanted.
[07:53:05] Actually all along.
[07:53:06] I really wanted X on to have a better, better quarter.
[07:53:11] That's what I wanted all along.
[07:53:13] I don't need to pay rent, I don't care about that at all.
[07:53:17] I forgot about the grocery bill.
[07:53:19] So, not sure what it will do, I think maybe people will see more and more people
[07:53:27] self-identify as fascists or maybe self-identify as whatever the maga train looks like, whatever
[07:53:34] the maga movement looks like, and we are kind of seeing that even here in Canada with
[07:53:39] the Albert and Separatist movement.
[07:53:42] Oh my God, that's just, please don't give Albert to us.
[07:53:48] I know many of you, I know many of you think,
[07:53:51] because I'm sorry, Canadians are either some
[07:53:54] of the best people that come to America
[07:53:55] or the worst and nothing in between.
[07:53:58] Okay, you either, yeah, you get like, yeah,
[07:54:02] she's right, Stephen Crowder, step on Malinu,
[07:54:06] half of the New York Times op-ed writers.
[07:54:09] I think David Brooks, right?
[07:54:10] He might, yeah, Tom McDonald, oh my God.
[07:54:15] That's what I mean, Ted Cruz.
[07:54:18] What the hell was that?
[07:54:20] Yeah, Jordan Peterson, okay, you guys are dunking
[07:54:22] on your own country, too much.
[07:54:24] But yeah, there are, there are, you know,
[07:54:27] there are too many Canadians in America
[07:54:30] ruining, leaning into American fashion
[07:54:33] in a little too much for my taste.
[07:54:35] But I forgot where I was going with that, as soon as I started thinking about all these
[07:54:43] right-wing Canadians, I'm like, build the wall, no kidding.
[07:54:48] Not so much about it.
[07:54:52] So, okay, I had to follow up about Venice, Will, and this general criticism of the U.S.
[07:55:04] And that's, I think, part of the threat that runs through all this.
[07:55:09] So like, you know, you've been, of course, very critical
[07:55:12] of U.S. actions abroad in general, U.S. foreign policy.
[07:55:18] One of the things you also talked about, though,
[07:55:20] when, you know, again, as it came to the case of Venezuela,
[07:55:23] was, you know, they are, they have been facing a very
[07:55:30] repressive government.
[07:55:31] As you said, you don't have to necessarily agree
[07:55:34] with or want somebody like Maduro in power,
[07:55:37] but you could be critical of what the US has done there.
[07:55:41] So could you maybe say more about,
[07:55:44] and just elaborate on why you focus most of your criticism
[07:55:48] on the US, on its allies, and even sort of like on the West
[07:55:53] more generally?
[07:55:56] And what do you think about sort of what
[07:55:58] happens on the other side in terms of the fact
[07:56:00] that there are, you know, a lot of very repressive
[07:56:03] authoritarian governments.
[07:56:06] And so I'm, you know, just that whole question of like
[07:56:08] liberation and supposedly going into like,
[07:56:12] help these nations that have repressive governments.
[07:56:16] What are your thoughts on that?
[07:56:16] What happens on the other side?
[07:56:18] I don't think America wants to help any of these countries.
[07:56:21] Let's just get that right out of it.
[07:56:24] Let's just make that very clear, right?
[07:56:27] So I think that's a transparent lie.
[07:56:30] When America says, oh, we're coming to help out, just run, okay?
[07:56:33] It's not, they're not coming to help out at all.
[07:56:37] They're only there to prop up the chamber of commerce
[07:56:40] and get like the agribusiness sector leaders
[07:56:44] to run the country.
[07:56:45] As they've tried to do in Venezuela many times over,
[07:56:50] sometimes it's a, sometimes it's a vengeance quest,
[07:56:53] in the case of the endless destabilization in Haiti
[07:56:56] or even in Cuba, our strangling of Cuba,
[07:56:59] And it's in its final iteration, but even in the aftermath of the successful revolution in Cuba,
[07:57:05] just punishing them because our ally that propped up a sugar plantations failed, right?
[07:57:11] And this, like, incredibly repressive structure that existed.
[07:57:15] But as far as, like, repressive regimes around the world, I have a, I have a different outlook
[07:57:25] on this than the average American does because I grew up in Turkey.
[07:57:29] And what I saw in Turkey, which is again, a country that is the second largest military
[07:57:37] in NATO, a country that has had tremendous amounts of intervention, oftentimes overlooked
[07:57:42] by America in an attempt to create a bull work against the USSR and directly place missile
[07:57:48] basis. In the vicinity of the US is our immediate area that the US is our existed in.
[07:57:58] And because of that, our domestic politics has never been the same. There was a complete
[07:58:04] destruction of all sorts of different revolutionary Kurdish movements, workers' movements
[07:58:10] in my country, communist movements, socialist movements. They were effectively destroyed by
[07:58:14] the ultra-nationalist, which is a story that has played itself out in virtually every
[07:58:19] single Western European NATO ally country, as well, to varying degrees.
[07:58:24] So I come from that background and I recognize that American intervention oftentimes
[07:58:29] works with some of the most reactionary forces in the country to create some semblance
[07:58:34] of stability that is cooperative, cooperative with American interests around the globe.
[07:58:41] And outside of that, though, I also recognize that when there is any additional attempted
[07:58:48] intervention, like the one, the coup d'état that failed in Turkey, that I wrote
[07:58:52] about for the Huffington Post, which is part of the reason why I can't go back to Turkey.
[07:58:57] They didn't like that.
[07:58:58] Even though I was, you know, I said it was a CIA operation, which I believe it is,
[07:59:03] backed up by a CIS at name for the Lachulean,
[07:59:08] who is understandably branded as a terrorist and a terrorist movement.
[07:59:13] This coup to tough failed, and in the aftermath there was more repression.
[07:59:18] So I, and there was also a hardening of the otherwise,
[07:59:24] the government that was falling out of favor leading up to this coup.
[07:59:29] So that's usually what many countries around the world experience, whenever there's any sort of like direct western instability and western intervention.
[07:59:37] A lot of the more repressive forces come out and say,
[07:59:41] we are the only people who are truly anti-west.
[07:59:44] And in the region that we're both from, that expression is oftentimes fundamentalist, right?
[07:59:52] I think you know where I'm going with this, with the Iranian Revolution.
[07:59:58] And the justification for the repression that came after,
[08:00:05] especially like the destruction of communist movements
[08:00:08] and all of that, before that it was a popular revolution
[08:00:12] against Western intervention in Western back puppet.
[08:00:16] And we here in the West don't have the capacity to interpret that.
[08:00:21] We don't have the capacity to analyze that.
[08:00:23] We just look at it and go, oh, those are barbaric Muslims.
[08:00:26] Those are barbaric third worldists and people in the third world, they don't understand.
[08:00:32] It's just there.
[08:00:33] They're two invested in Islam or something, right?
[08:00:36] And they can't comprehend that like, for a lot of people, the wounds that they experience,
[08:00:44] the loss of life that they see, sometimes torture as conditions that they're put through
[08:00:49] as a direct byproduct of American intervention, is the reason why they lean into some of
[08:00:54] more repressive elements in the country because those repressive elements might be seen as
[08:01:00] liberatory. And that's my analysis whenever I talk about when I talk about like more repressive
[08:01:10] forms of governance that are in the periphery outside of the security umbrella of the United States.
[08:01:17] Yeah, and I feel you want that. So when, you know, when it comes to Iran,
[08:01:20] There's something that I've been thinking about a lot and trying to articulate what
[08:01:30] is actually happening and what has happened in the latest protests, especially since early
[08:01:36] January, and there are all of these elements in those protests that have taken place recently
[08:01:45] that are, you know, a lot of them are very troubling, right?
[08:01:50] There's this question of, like, to what extent are they organic in terms of, like,
[08:01:55] what people in Iran are actually demanding and how much of it is from foreign
[08:01:58] interference, but there's, of course, the reality that, you know,
[08:02:02] a lot of that has been long in the making, right?
[08:02:05] There have been waves and waves for decades of protest movements with any
[08:02:09] with any run, but again, those have grown organically, right?
[08:02:12] They are demands that Iranians have been making against their government.
[08:02:18] And so I'm also up the view of, I mean, I completely see what you're saying when it comes
[08:02:24] to that case against foreign intervention, you know, we have today in the Iranian diaspora,
[08:02:31] especially, there is a noticeable kind of split between these pro monarchist groups, or those
[08:02:38] who at least, you know, have come to believe that the so-called crown prince,
[08:02:43] there's a path that he's the son of the late jaw, that he, that he somehow
[08:02:48] represents, you know, liberation, right, and that he's-
[08:02:51] It's almost like she was Maryland.
[08:02:52] That's like, I don't think he even wants to do it.
[08:02:56] I feel like Liz Graham went to him and was like,
[08:02:57] you gotta do this.
[08:02:59] And he's like, come on.
[08:03:02] He has not had an actual real job.
[08:03:04] He knows.
[08:03:06] So, one of the things that has been, I think, really troubling about this kind of discourse
[08:03:14] has been that the people who have been sort of backing him among the diaspora, again,
[08:03:21] think that there's something like a viable alternative there, right? And that somebody like
[08:03:26] him is going to bring about supposedly a secular democratic Iran, and this gets back to that point
[08:03:32] about like, you know, on the flip side of it, it's like, oh, it's like, if you disagree
[08:03:36] with that, then you are a terrorist supporter, et cetera, right?
[08:03:40] And I mean, I'm used to it.
[08:03:42] I know you're, yeah.
[08:03:43] I'm like, whatever, you know, socialists, socialists, oriented Muslim men, like, who
[08:03:48] would have thought that you get heat?
[08:03:50] But I mean, so, again, I feel you on all of that, the question, I think that remains
[08:03:56] in the case of Iran, and that I think is really pressing, is that because so much
[08:04:01] of that actual resistance that is happening
[08:04:06] within Iran, the organic resistance by the people themselves,
[08:04:10] there are legitimate claims that people are making, right,
[08:04:13] in terms of forms of freedom that they genuinely want to fight
[08:04:18] for and they don't necessarily want for an intervention.
[08:04:21] And I know this to be the case for a lot of Iran
[08:04:23] is who are actually inside the country who I'm always communicating
[08:04:27] with.
[08:04:27] And so what do you think of that when it comes
[08:04:31] to this question of legitimate resistance
[08:04:35] on the part of the people themselves,
[08:04:37] without foreign intervention
[08:04:39] and fighting for a more sort of democratic future
[08:04:42] but on the people's own terms.
[08:04:45] Yeah, I think American and in the case of Iran
[08:04:49] is really interventionist, especially,
[08:04:50] which is just basically American intervention.
[08:04:52] Let's be real.
[08:04:55] Enzo up harming the movements at least in terms of the way
[08:05:00] that the majority are not even the majority, but a significant chunk of the population
[08:05:04] seems the legitimacy of it.
[08:05:07] And I feel as though, at least in my advocacy, I focus on trying to do my part as an
[08:05:14] American citizen oftentimes my, you know, my state-mits fall on deaf ears, but I think
[08:05:25] the best possible thing we could do, and I know a lot of people will disagree with me on
[08:05:28] this is to try and stop starving the Iranian population through the sanctions regime
[08:05:36] that we have implemented.
[08:05:38] Because I do believe that Western intervention legitimizes the, like, I don't believe
[08:05:47] it's legitimate what the government is doing.
[08:05:49] But I do believe that at least in the eyes of their own loyalist population, which
[08:05:55] It's just a significant percentage, right, 20% to 30%.
[08:05:59] It legitimizes the violent actions that they take, any time, and it's not an accident that
[08:06:04] when Mike Pompeo comes out and says, oh, like massade agents are in the crowd with you,
[08:06:08] of course the eye-a-tool is going to use that as a talking point, as they see, we have to
[08:06:13] slaughter all these people because they're openly admitting it themselves.
[08:06:17] And I feel as though if the people had more of an opportunity to be able to organize
[08:06:27] the best of their ability without having to suffer starvation as an impact of these sanctions,
[08:06:36] they would have a better opportunity to bring about legitimate, sovereign, secular, democratic
[08:06:43] result for their own country.
[08:06:45] Maybe I'm too optimistic, but that's the only pathway that I can see, at least judging
[08:06:50] by my own personal interactions with Turkish people and how much they despise the country,
[08:06:59] and how much they rallied around the Adelaide Administration, and spite of their overall
[08:07:05] hatred for the Adelaide Administration, when the coup happened.
[08:07:10] So I think Western intervention is often not going to yield the success that Western
[08:07:19] nations want, and it's better to allow people to have their own real revolution, especially
[08:07:28] considering that, I mean, Iranian people are very resilient, and maybe sometimes not
[08:07:34] to be invested in any sort of outside help, sometimes to a detriment, and I guess what I'm
[08:07:43] trying to say is that there was a reason why the Iranian Revolution took place, and it
[08:07:52] would be who the IRGC and the Iotola to remember that when dealing tremendous amounts of
[08:07:59] repression and suppression to the public, instead of listening to their demands and trying
[08:08:03] to find a more manageable solution if that is at all possible at this point?
[08:08:08] Yeah, and you know, now that you mentioned, you know, this point about revolutionary
[08:08:15] optimism, you know, we're going to come back to that point.
[08:08:19] There's also just as you were speaking, you know, to that point about sanctions, which I think
[08:08:23] you, you put really well in.
[08:08:24] There's this, there's a book called House Sanctions Work by Valley Nass and Nagis Budghovli,
[08:08:30] who I think really goes to illustrate that point about how so much of what has been happening
[08:08:36] in Iran for very long time now is due to that pressure of sanctions and the economic
[08:08:42] hardship that has fallen on people.
[08:08:46] And I think it's great that you've also pointed to the importance of the fact that people
[08:08:51] are fighting for freedom and this is a genuine sort of movement as well.
[08:08:56] So there's a question, and I want to also get include audience questions in here.
[08:09:03] I also have questions from some of my brilliant students at Fordham, and there was this
[08:09:09] one question from Sophia who asks, this is getting back to on the Royal Social Media,
[08:09:17] and how speaking about all of these types of issues, including American foreign policy,
[08:09:23] but also just in terms of political mobilization.
[08:09:26] This is how the question is framed.
[08:09:28] So on the role of social media,
[08:09:30] we're constantly witnessing political crises, violence,
[08:09:34] and collective mobilizations unfold in real time
[08:09:37] through our screens,
[08:09:39] which can create the sensation of hypervisibility
[08:09:42] and participation.
[08:09:44] At the same time,
[08:09:46] I don't know if you want to speak about what's happening
[08:09:48] and on the far right on certain platforms.
[08:09:53] But the far right movements continue to grow, right?
[08:09:58] And part of similar digital platforms.
[08:10:00] So what do you think about how we confront this kind
[08:10:04] of contradiction between digital visibility
[08:10:06] and the simultaneous strengthening
[08:10:08] of exclusionary authoritarian politics?
[08:10:12] Yeah.
[08:10:12] I think the far right's mobilization on digital platforms
[08:10:17] It still stems from the fact that they get a lot of financial backing and are not seen as antagonistic to the right-wing administrations.
[08:10:27] Left-wing mobilization on the other hand requires grassroots support and is often antagonistic to liberals, which is the only expression of major left-flank politics in the United States of America at least.
[08:10:41] that reason. I mean, any opportunity that we have as leftist, we should seize on. So I do
[08:10:49] think that the digital grounds for organizing is still good. As long as there is still,
[08:10:58] as long as there's still a focus on meeting one another in the real world and participate
[08:11:03] in regular society, otherwise all you're doing is posting on the internet and as a prolific
[08:11:11] post or myself, I recognize that it might feel good at the time, but you're not really
[08:11:16] accomplishing any serious results doing just that.
[08:11:21] But I think overall, you, like I said, you have to take it every advantage that you possibly
[08:11:27] can and I do think that the digital space is created opportunities to build communities,
[08:11:34] communities that are sustainable, communities that can be productive.
[08:11:37] I try to use mine to the best of my ability.
[08:11:40] I try to urge people to organize.
[08:11:43] I try to urge people to move in the direction of labor unions
[08:11:47] and community organizing in general,
[08:11:51] and do fundraisers and try to participate
[08:11:53] to the best of our ability in both broadening people's
[08:11:57] awareness on certain injustices that are taking place,
[08:12:01] but then also directly get involved as well.
[08:12:04] As far as right wing mobilization goes, I mean, there's somewhat
[08:12:09] rudderless, there's somewhat directionless, because they are
[08:12:11] reactionary at the end of the day, and the only way that they
[08:12:14] organizes is at the at the state level.
[08:12:19] But that is from at least my calculations.
[08:12:23] That's just backed by capital in general.
[08:12:26] So they're going to do that no matter what.
[08:12:29] So I say, we focus on our own initiatives,
[08:12:32] and we focus on creating community defense
[08:12:35] and hopefully bring back labor militancy
[08:12:39] to a certain degree.
[08:12:41] Yeah.
[08:12:42] Yeah.
[08:12:43] Yeah.
[08:12:44] Yeah.
[08:12:45] Yeah.
[08:12:46] Yeah.
[08:12:47] Yeah.
[08:12:48] So very much that importance of, you know,
[08:12:49] it's got to be accompanied by on the ground
[08:12:51] activity, spread and activism.
[08:12:55] So I'm going to bring in sort of more audience questions, as well as like,
[08:12:59] I got one more question for you.
[08:13:01] that's from me.
[08:13:03] So this is on belonging and in between this, right?
[08:13:06] And since you also spoke about being from Turkey
[08:13:09] and things that you've experienced.
[08:13:12] So Edward Said, who I take a lot of inspiration from,
[08:13:17] he memorably wrote about this experience of exile
[08:13:20] and sort of being in the between and the experience
[08:13:23] of migration.
[08:13:24] And this is something that I think about.
[08:13:27] I have also recently been venturing into this world of like podcast as well, and so, you know,
[08:13:35] I address this with my colleagues and friends.
[08:13:38] We have a podcast called Politics and the Exilexity, just quick plug on, that's it.
[08:13:43] You would know your plug, I'm gonna do my plug too, quick.
[08:13:47] And it's essentially inspired by this whole sort of this question of why that is significant,
[08:13:53] especially for us, for people like us in this day and age.
[08:13:59] And the way that Said talks about this in relation
[08:14:03] to his identity as Palestinian, and being displaced
[08:14:09] from Palestine, he had this experience, of course,
[08:14:12] moving to the US and having this whole academic career there.
[08:14:16] But when he made that move, especially when he was in New York
[08:14:19] City, he described it in these terms.
[08:14:22] He said that belonging to both sides of the imperial divide allows you to understand
[08:14:28] them more easily, right?
[08:14:30] Both sides.
[08:14:31] And that it creates these kinds of generative possibilities for what he called a double
[08:14:36] perspective.
[08:14:38] So I'm wondering, like in your case, having, you know, made these moves.
[08:14:43] Do you think in any way, along those terms, between your experiences between Turkey and
[08:14:49] the U.S., would you say you think about that in similar terms?
[08:14:52] terms and also how do you envision your place in the U.S.
[08:14:57] And the world generally in the years to come?
[08:15:01] Yeah, I think, I mean, I look and sound American to a fault, right?
[08:15:08] Even though I grew up in Turkey until I was 18 years old, and that's somewhat of a product
[08:15:13] of American culture exported everywhere around the world.
[08:15:17] And I was, I grew up, I call myself a Maribou,
[08:15:20] like a wee but for America.
[08:15:23] And I grew up being fascinated by American culture,
[08:15:26] the American dream.
[08:15:28] As many people who migrate to the West,
[08:15:31] I also have a similar experience.
[08:15:34] And those dreams are shattered,
[08:15:36] as soon as I got the first hospital bill,
[08:15:37] I was like, this is ridiculous.
[08:15:39] That's crazy.
[08:15:41] You guys don't know that here in Canada.
[08:15:43] We, we, yeah.
[08:15:45] Yet, unfortunately, because you also have the same capitalist forces that are doing
[08:15:53] their very best to implement austerity and then bring the private sector in.
[08:15:58] I'm going to tell you right now, it's devastating and when you go down to the south,
[08:16:03] when you go past that border, it's really bad.
[08:16:05] I don't need to tell you you probably know, but anyway, my perspective is totally guided by
[08:16:14] my experience growing up in Turkey, and then, you know, living half of my life at this
[08:16:20] point in the United States of America, and I think it gives me a unique insight, but I think
[08:16:25] it also helps me become a more effective communicator, because I have the capacity to, I guess,
[08:16:37] somewhat, this sarm, the Western audiences by talking like an American, but with a very
[08:16:45] different framework that I operate off of, especially as it pertains to what I consider
[08:16:51] to be this last bastion of American defense, which happens to be imperialism.
[08:16:58] Most people just take that for granted or don't even think about it, or are conditioned
[08:17:02] at least in my experience to go,
[08:17:04] oh, you don't like American military action,
[08:17:07] you're an outsider, you're an enemy.
[08:17:10] I'm very fortunate that I have a wonderful audience
[08:17:13] that has been much more open-minded
[08:17:14] than I ever thought they would be,
[08:17:16] as far as hearing this perspective.
[08:17:20] Having said that, that's how I use this duality
[08:17:24] to my advantage.
[08:17:26] My experiences growing up in Turkey
[08:17:29] that allows me to develop a different understanding
[08:17:32] of being on the receiving end of American intervention,
[08:17:35] and then my experiences in America as an American citizen
[08:17:39] make it easier for me to communicate with Americans.
[08:17:44] So, okay, so I had one audience question that is specifically
[08:17:49] about this, actually, which is on the differences
[08:17:53] between Democrats and Republicans in the United States.
[08:17:57] So you've often said that when it comes to, for example,
[08:18:02] coming back to the question of Gaza, and Palestine,
[08:18:05] that also on questions of foreign policy,
[08:18:09] that a lot of times Democrats and Republicans
[08:18:12] don't really seem that far apart,
[08:18:14] that there isn't a major difference between them.
[08:18:18] So for people who, who would get really mad when
[08:18:20] you say that?
[08:18:22] Yeah.
[08:18:22] They get so mad.
[08:18:23] And it's like, well, OK, we're a Chuck Schumer.
[08:18:27] We're saying heimgevris.
[08:18:27] You know, where you also, but you got some people who, you know, as you say, they get kind of
[08:18:35] angered by that. And then there are people who kind of like might find, you know, they have sort
[08:18:42] of like a criticism of that, right? And this is sort of what has been popping up in some of the
[08:18:47] questions and audience. So for people who say that that kind of tends to flatten the differences,
[08:18:54] right or it is equating like Democrats and Republicans, like what's your response to that
[08:19:00] do you think that we should also think about what would actually separate them or you
[08:19:07] think that it's actually necessary to frame it that way that they're not that far apart
[08:19:12] on a lot of issues like that?
[08:19:14] Yeah, I mean from the perspective of a host of Shabbat who unfortunately was assassinated
[08:19:19] by the state of Israel under the watchful gaze of the Biden administration.
[08:19:23] It doesn't make a difference whether or not Raytheon is flying, the LGBTQ banner, or
[08:19:30] or is anti-woke, right?
[08:19:33] From the perspective of the victims, it's all the same.
[08:19:35] It's more death and more destruction.
[08:19:38] And obviously there are differences between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.
[08:19:43] But when it comes to foreign policy, I'm not actually flattening that experience.
[08:19:48] It's just, I'm looking at it from the experience of the recipient, the victims of empire.
[08:19:54] And from their perspective, there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference.
[08:19:58] Otherwise I, you know, ask the people in Yemen, if it felt different when Obama was
[08:20:04] bombing them as opposed to Donald Trump bombing them, as opposed to Biden bombing them, as
[08:20:08] opposed to Trump bombing them again.
[08:20:10] Right?
[08:20:11] It's just, no, it makes no difference to them, whether it's a, it's a Democrat or Republican
[08:20:16] because every president has to bomb Yemen.
[08:20:20] I think, I don't know if it's in the Constitution or not,
[08:20:22] but that's just what they've been doing so far.
[08:20:27] And that's basically what it is.
[08:20:30] I think a lot of Americans don't want to recognize that.
[08:20:33] And they also don't want to understand
[08:20:36] that what I want is a real anti-imperialist party.
[08:20:41] So when I communicate that to my electives,
[08:20:45] When I talk about this with, you know, people who are consulting for the Democratic Party,
[08:20:52] when I talk to politicians, both on camera and off camera, this is what I try to communicate
[08:20:57] to them, that if you want people to see that you are different, that you're charting
[08:21:02] a different path, then you have to communicate that.
[08:21:05] You can't be shy about saying it out loud.
[08:21:09] And I think that having, demonstrating this moral backbone will be beneficial down the line,
[08:21:15] even from an electoral perspective.
[08:21:18] We've seen that now with the tight shift
[08:21:20] that took place on Gaza.
[08:21:23] I think before October 7, you would get punished
[08:21:27] if you actually were outspoken about the plight of Palestinians.
[08:21:31] And now, if you dare to say that your pro is real,
[08:21:34] at least on the Democratic Party side,
[08:21:37] a lot of people are going to yell at you.
[08:21:38] And might not even vote for you.
[08:21:40] I mean, we're seeing, as the mid-terms are coming,
[08:21:43] as the mid-terms are coming up,
[08:21:44] We're seeing this be a major point of contention, a way to show that you're earnest,
[08:21:50] show that you're different from other politicians, many people in the primaries are positioning
[08:21:56] themselves as being anti-Israel.
[08:21:58] So there's a electoral benefit as well, not only is it the morally correct position, but
[08:22:03] it's also an electorally beneficial position too.
[08:22:06] So I try to stress that to the best of my ability and hope that maybe one of these two major
[08:22:12] parties will truly present an anti-imperialist path forward, one that recognizes the
[08:22:19] dignity and sovereignty of nations and doesn't see them as simple collateral damage
[08:22:24] in our endless profit seeking.
[08:22:27] So, I mean, this is a very related question that's popped up a lot in the audience questions.
[08:22:42] So at the level of institutions, when it comes to countering those kinds of things, do
[08:22:51] Do you think that universities generally should be looking more at divestment, so, for example,
[08:22:58] you can see other universities?
[08:23:00] Yes.
[08:23:03] You're going to get in trouble.
[08:23:07] Yes, of course.
[08:23:09] I'm a massive advocate for boycotts, divestments and sanctions on the state of Israel.
[08:23:14] 100 percent, I know that it's the least we could do.
[08:23:25] And it's been successful in the past.
[08:23:27] I mean, this is exactly what happened with a part-time South Africa.
[08:23:30] And unfortunately, a part-time South Africa's close ally, a part-time Israel, recognized
[08:23:35] how devastating that was for South Africa.
[08:23:37] So they took the initiative to make sure that it doesn't work in the Western world.
[08:23:43] But absolutely, I think, profiteering off of these war crimes is morally unconscionable.
[08:23:51] And once again, it goes back to the argument that I was presenting earlier.
[08:23:55] It's the most peaceful solution to sever ties with Israel, to the best of our ability,
[08:24:01] to participate in cultural boycotts, to, at least in the most peaceful ways, punish the state
[08:24:08] of Israel for engaging in these heinous crimes if we're really anti-genocide, we have
[08:24:13] to do that.
[08:24:14] It's the bare minimum in my opinion.
[08:24:18] So this is kind of, again, this is going to lead us to thinking about the question of
[08:24:32] real genuine things that could be done for the betterment of the world.
[08:24:38] of those who suffer under these kinds of conditions.
[08:24:44] One of the things that tends to predominate
[08:24:48] in a lot of ways, these days,
[08:24:50] is the question of doom erasm, right,
[08:24:53] that so many people find it really difficult
[08:24:57] to maintain a sense of hope in the face
[08:25:02] of everything that's happening around us.
[08:25:05] So how do you think, you know,
[08:25:06] And then we'll kind of approach the question one more time
[08:25:08] in a different way after this too.
[08:25:10] But generally, how do you think we deal with humorism?
[08:25:13] Solidarity.
[08:25:14] Wow.
[08:25:15] All right.
[08:25:16] Solidarity is the antidote to the poison of divisiveness.
[08:25:22] Our capital overlords want us to be fighting one another all the time.
[08:25:26] Neighbor against neighbor, sectarian conflict, ethnicities, all of this stuff.
[08:25:32] But in my experience, I feel alienated when I'm at home
[08:25:38] when I'm in front of a computer.
[08:25:40] But in my experience going all around the world,
[08:25:43] participating in protests, pasting the tear gas
[08:25:47] and pepper spray of French police and American police,
[08:25:50] and police have all different backgrounds.
[08:25:53] I can tell you that when you're in that crowd
[08:25:56] with like-minded individuals who are singularly focused,
[08:25:59] who recognize right from wrong,
[08:26:02] Solidarity is the closest expression to love
[08:26:04] that I have ever felt with my fellow men,
[08:26:07] no matter where I go.
[08:26:08] And that's precisely how I maintain revolutionary optimism.
[08:26:18] Well, that's awesome.
[08:26:20] That's awesome.
[08:26:24] So, you know, the last question I want to ask you is to
[08:26:28] to really delve into the meaning and the actual,
[08:26:35] ways to actualize that kind of revolutionary optimism, right?
[08:26:38] And what it means to you,
[08:26:39] and I know that you have spoken about this,
[08:26:42] very, very powerfully, and sort of speeches,
[08:26:45] that you've given, what would you say it looks like?
[08:26:51] Like what is, if you had to elaborate,
[08:26:54] Finally, on this question of revolutionary optimism, what does it mean?
[08:26:59] What does it look like in the future?
[08:27:02] I think we have to recognize the small victories that we take and hold on to them
[08:27:10] and recognize that in order to build the society, the future that we want to see,
[08:27:16] the future that we all envision that is better for everyone around the world,
[08:27:21] We cannot cast the side small victories no matter how silly it may seem.
[08:27:27] It can be converting one of your close loved ones, bringing them back to reality.
[08:27:33] It can be receiving a better contract at the end of a strike, work stoppage, or it could
[08:27:41] be participating in activism.
[08:27:44] It could be participating in these mass demonstrations and then getting the American government
[08:27:50] to pull back from occupying your streets
[08:27:53] like we saw in Minneapolis.
[08:27:55] It can also sometimes even mean voting for a candidate
[08:27:58] for the first time that makes you feel like your voice
[08:28:02] mattered.
[08:28:03] In spite of all of the odds stacked against Zoram
[08:28:06] Mamdoni in New York City, both the establishment
[08:28:13] Democrats and the entirety of the Republican Party
[08:28:16] came after him, and people went out in the streets, they went out, they protested, they
[08:28:24] voted for Zoram, I'm Donny. And now, at the heart of capital in New York City, you have
[08:28:30] a 34-year-old Muslim socialist anti-zionist mayor for the first time ever.
[08:28:38] So, while things feel hopeless overall, I hold on to moments like that and remind myself
[08:28:49] that there are more of us than there are of them.
[08:28:52] There are more of us out here that recognize right from wrong than there are of those
[08:28:58] who seek to divide us.
[08:29:01] And that is what's important and that's what helps me maintain my revolutionary optimism,
[08:29:06] solidarity forever.
[08:29:08] Beautiful as I, beautiful as I thank you, thank you, this was fantastic.
[08:29:19] All right, so much.
[08:29:20] Thank you.
[08:29:21] Thank you.
[08:29:23] Are we getting out of here?
[08:29:26] Thank you for coming, guys.