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04-19-2026 · 5h 53m

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[00:09:30] The left's new golden boy Twitch streamer doesn't even try to hide it.
[00:09:44] Thirty-four-year-old Hassan Piker not only hates America, he's hinting at a civil war.
[00:09:49] A noted far-left influencer is declaring the Republican Party the biggest terrorist on
[00:09:55] earth.
[00:09:56] Hassan Piker is unapologetic for his controversial comments on a range of issues.
[00:10:01] An anti-American far-left commentator who is named Hassan Piker.
[00:10:05] Now that he's being highlighted, Democrats are flocking to him.
[00:10:09] He's not out there on Hassan Piker's show, right? For example, right?
[00:10:13] The man to his left is a very controversial guy. Hassan Piker insults just about everyone.
[00:10:19] Or if you go back and listen to some of the things that he says, Carl, this guy's not going to wear well.
[00:10:25] Their so-called Joe Logan of the left,
[00:10:27] Hasan Piker, is back in the headlines
[00:10:30] this time for calling Republicans terrorists.
[00:10:33] Piker has a controversial history,
[00:10:35] and we've been showing you this all week.
[00:10:37] You don't give somebody like Hasan Piker
[00:10:39] this kind of attention, this kind of platform.
[00:10:41] It only rewards the kind of rhetoric that I just described.
[00:10:43] Hundreds of students lined up and packed into these rallies,
[00:10:47] and they ate up the anti-war, anti-capitalist,
[00:10:50] and anti-establishment messages.
[00:10:52] That's him, Hasan Piker.
[00:10:54] They should stay away from him.
[00:11:00] What's going on, everybody?
[00:11:02] I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon,
[00:11:05] pre-noon, no matter where you are in the world.
[00:11:07] I'm a Sompiker in this DOS and I'm broadcast coming to you live from
[00:11:10] sunny California, Los Angeles, folks, we're live and alive.
[00:11:13] And I hope all the blue grills and MVs are having a fantastic one.
[00:11:18] Because today's a beautiful day.
[00:11:19] Today's a wonderful day.
[00:11:20] Today is Sunday.
[00:11:22] That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:11:24] It is Sunday Sunday Sunday
[00:11:28] Sunday normally fun day, but probably not a lot of fun today, but we'll see
[00:11:36] We're live we're live and I hope all the boys girls and MBS are having a fantastic one it is
[00:11:45] Sunday April 19th
[00:11:46] 2026
[00:11:48] 1140 a.m. I'm a little late and I apologize I believe part of the reason why is because
[00:11:54] You know, I was I was
[00:11:57] Enjoying the Sun it's 72 degrees and sunny here in stolen Tonga land. We are alive. We are alive
[00:12:05] We got a lot going on
[00:12:09] And
[00:12:10] That's right. Unfortunately another news day because she keeps coming up. Yeah, well you guys say unfortunately another news day
[00:12:16] But you love news days
[00:12:18] Yes, chat. I shaved the beard. The beard is gone. Back to a five o'clock shadow. You
[00:12:29] can see the dimples again. Kept the mustache. That's where we're back at. Okay, welcome
[00:12:39] back to beard stash asson. Yeah. Um, what I find unbelievable about this campaign towards
[00:12:50] you is the Dems are just pulling down their pants and showing their whole ass machine
[00:12:53] and how it all works to all of us who have been watching you for years. Yeah, I had to
[00:12:57] do it. I was getting a little too scary, getting a little too muslimic style, you know. Um,
[00:13:05] Yeah, we're back. We're live. We're live and as far as personal news goes
[00:13:11] This is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news
[00:13:14] But what's going on in the world of the Sun?
[00:13:15] I'm a piker in between time period where I press the stop to me button and press to start
[00:13:19] Streaming button. So help me. God. That's what I'm gonna do as you guys know. I'm a chud ass loser
[00:13:25] Okay, which is why last night I hung out with Austin and watched another episode of neighbors
[00:13:35] Yeah, good girl Kaia. Thank you for the 10 gift subs. But yeah, but yeah, live and alive
[00:13:54] the citizens of Debra's are gonna love seeing your handsome face like this. Hopefully, yeah.
[00:13:58] Yes, I did see the strokes. We will look at the strokes headline in Coachella. Don't worry,
[00:14:10] that's definitely on the docket. I did not pause to do commentary. Contrary to popular opinion,
[00:14:18] in any case.
[00:14:25] Yeah, I went to bed, woke up early, and played some basketball this morning.
[00:14:38] I finally, since December 13th, 2025, I had quit playing basketball.
[00:14:43] Northern Lion mentioned you.
[00:14:45] Northern Lion mentioned?
[00:14:47] Hassanabi mentioned on the northern line stream.
[00:14:54] Uh, yeah. Okay, we'll, we'll get into all of that, uh, and more.
[00:15:01] Folks, folks, folks.
[00:15:04] Personal news wise, not much going on in the world.
[00:15:09] Not much going on in my universe.
[00:15:13] Um,
[00:15:14] Ankle is not fine, no, it still gets swollen pretty easily.
[00:15:26] But it's good that I, at the very least, played a little bit of basketball, you know?
[00:15:37] Yeah, that's surgery 100%.
[00:15:47] You have any teenager Bradley takes on mega rich defamera?
[00:15:51] Cache Patel fired when?
[00:15:53] So much happening.
[00:15:55] Just got back to America after being released for a week and a half.
[00:15:58] The food is making me feel so disgusting.
[00:15:59] I wish you had subtitles.
[00:16:00] I'm out and I can't hear you, lol.
[00:16:02] Don't have my headphones either.
[00:16:06] out this clip. She lounge wear that's actually kind of peak fluffy lounge wear biker jacket
[00:16:12] outfit almost almost Amy blue coated. I'm not going to lie to you. The okay. The Hassan
[00:16:17] shirt kind of goes fucking nutty office uniform top. And my kid literally has this shirt.
[00:16:26] That's crazy. What the hell is this game? What is this game slosh Patel crash Patel
[00:16:32] did old crash out Patel safety vest, casual coveralls. It's, it's giving Queens University
[00:16:44] colorful pants. It's kind of messed up. They just said that's the Hassan shirt that goes
[00:16:48] crazy, especially considering that I was going to be his Lieutenant Brigadier admiral general
[00:16:53] on the Northern line super cruise. Okay. He's coming after his own Lieutenant rear Brigadier
[00:16:59] Admiral General on the Northern Line Supercruise. It's kind of messed up. Just saying.
[00:17:09] Yeah. I was going to be, I was going to be all of those things for him. And that was my uniform.
[00:17:17] This could be big for us to be honest with you. A train suit, spacey tights.
[00:17:23] And any case, ladies and gentlemen, Northern line mentioned, um, yeah, that's what I got.
[00:17:34] That's all I got, uh, personal news wise, you were on all three networks, CNN, MSNOW
[00:17:41] and Fox news, the Trump fence to blow up the entire country of Iran.
[00:17:45] That's pretty cool.
[00:17:46] Hamas 1000 times better than this one, Michigan race, Democrats over Israel and parties future
[00:17:49] outside of criticized for campaigning with Schumer, Hassan, Piker, Senator Scott on feud
[00:17:53] with Yale over Hassan, Piker. Yeah. When, when the thing, when things are going really bad,
[00:18:00] when things are going really, really bad, just know that all of the networks will kick
[00:18:05] into overdrive their, their anti-Hassan commentary in their comments. So that's exciting. You know,
[00:18:13] that's cool. I liked it. That's another round, you know,
[00:18:15] Now, another Sunday of insane Hasan derangement syndrome.
[00:18:31] This is the longest I've seen any network cover, anything without getting distracted.
[00:18:34] Isn't that cool?
[00:18:35] Isn't that wonderful that at least like finally we found a solution to the way that most networks
[00:18:45] can't focus on one issue for longer than like 20 hours, 24 hours in the new cycle.
[00:18:53] I'm glad, I'm glad that they are capable of taking, you know, the real important stories
[00:18:59] of the day to its maximalist conclusion, you know, focusing on the actual issues that matter,
[00:19:06] which is Twitch streamer that they can't decide is irrelevant or the most relevant, right?
[00:19:13] Anyway, do we have a blast-off meme, folks?
[00:19:22] Do we have a blast-off meme? I'm going to need Obama to stand next to me and height me up,
[00:19:29] to put an end to this one as well. You know what I mean?
[00:19:36] I guess I could just use the screenshots.
[00:19:43] Okay. But.
[00:19:58] All right, let's blast off and let's keep it going Michigan, Kamala. Yeah, I know, I know. I saw Mallory McMorris dance.
[00:20:05] I saw, I saw, I saw Michigan. The Michigan Democratic Party is, is.
[00:20:12] Looking at their endorsements today.
[00:20:15] Visited my cousin this morning for breakfast.
[00:20:17] She's deep in Magga County.
[00:20:18] Both the neighbors are taking down their Trump banners.
[00:20:20] I only saw one the whole time, the whole drive.
[00:20:22] Hell yeah, I did.
[00:20:24] I mean, it's great.
[00:20:25] Trump is, uh, is seeing his lowest approval ratings ever.
[00:20:30] Uh, let's blast off.
[00:20:31] Obviously another Sunday round of his anus on the
[00:20:33] Razor syndrome, Iran X Trump, Hormis status, close situation,
[00:20:36] monitored Epsom's fury day, 51 Sunday, Monday.
[00:20:38] Okay, buddy, we'll talk about it all and more.
[00:20:40] Any chance of Julian Costa block us on the stream soon? Uh, yes, maybe I don't know
[00:20:47] I don't know how to reach him, but we shall see
[00:20:50] We shall see ladies and gentlemen
[00:20:56] For the people that openly called themselves the best hectares, why am I fucking I?
[00:21:02] Just got started and I'm already on and bro. That's crazy. Am I just not am I am I overexerting myself be honest?
[00:21:10] You think I'm over exerting myself chat. You think I should be taking the Sundays off. I
[00:21:17] Just don't know what I would do with myself if I took the Sundays off. You know what I mean
[00:21:24] No, you old yeah, that's true
[00:21:26] Do we like
[00:21:28] Do we like the beard shave? Do we like it? Is that good back to my old form back to my old me?
[00:21:34] You know
[00:21:36] Do we enjoy that chat? Let me get a sound off
[00:21:40] Is this better than the beard that was going crazy?
[00:21:51] The beard was definitely under control.
[00:21:54] It was definitely a little bit out there.
[00:21:57] Quick complaining dance for us.
[00:21:58] Yeah, now the beard's out.
[00:22:01] Now you got, you know, you got slutty shirts.
[00:22:05] Slutty shirts are coming back.
[00:22:09] It's summer.
[00:22:10] time, you know, it feels like summertime. Before you know it, we'll have sleeveless Sundays,
[00:22:23] right? Groomed beer also looks good, but it has to be groomed. Okay. In any case, what
[00:22:29] is this? Capcom's Pragmata. Wait, did it come out already? Pragmata, it's making 1000 people
[00:22:34] suddenly want to start a family. You place Hue as soldier, stranded on a ruin, lunar
[00:22:38] your resource station is your job is protecting the child like Android Diana while fighting
[00:22:41] rogue AI. It's out already. Is it good? Isn't this like Death Stranding? In one emotional
[00:22:50] moment she gives him a crayon drawing of the two of them together as a little family. Even
[00:22:54] streamers who say at the start, they didn't want kids end up bringing down happy and
[00:22:57] tears. So what's really interesting about this is all of these unfuckable losers in
[00:23:04] the gaming sphere, always talk about like starting families and stuff. And I don't understand
[00:23:09] like why this has become a thing that they care about. Like if you're a gamer, you should
[00:23:15] care about things that you actually experience. You care about things that you actually enjoy.
[00:23:21] Right? If you're a fucking lonely gamer who has never been around a woman and will never
[00:23:27] have sex with a woman, why do you care? Like why do you care about having children or like
[00:23:33] riding for having children. Like if they changed hot Cheetos, if they changed the recipe of
[00:23:39] hot Cheetos, if they changed the recipe of like, I don't know, Dr Pepper or something
[00:23:43] and you fucking freaked out about that, that makes sense, right? Like that's precisely what
[00:23:47] your life is about. But as far as like larping about starting families and whatnot, this
[00:23:52] is something that I never understand. It just doesn't make any sense to me because it's
[00:24:00] She's not something that you're going to experience ever for your life for the rest of your life, right?
[00:24:19] Also, I will say
[00:24:25] Japanese game putting a child in there
[00:24:27] You're playing with fire. Okay. Don't get mad at me for saying this, but I feel like any Japanese game you put like a like a child.
[00:24:38] It's a little, it's gonna, it's gonna invite maybe the worst possible fandom, you know, I know it's not like that. I'm sure the game is not like that, but there will be people who take it like that.
[00:24:52] who take it like that.
[00:24:56] So look up the Twitch email controversy
[00:24:59] concerning this game.
[00:25:05] Where can people play this game?
[00:25:06] This pragmatic game.
[00:25:08] I'm so old.
[00:25:09] I'm like, I'm literally,
[00:25:11] I'm behaving like such an old man.
[00:25:15] What platform is this game on?
[00:25:18] Is it Austin?
[00:25:19] Is it a computer game?
[00:25:20] Is it one of those computer games?
[00:25:23] You know what? Why not?
[00:25:24] Why not? Let's fucking download it.
[00:25:25] Let's, let's, who knows? Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? Who knows?
[00:25:30] Who knows? Who knows?
[00:25:37] Okay. Okay. You know what? Let's, let's do it. Let's buy it.
[00:25:42] Let's, let's fucking download it while we're streaming.
[00:25:45] Please play it, holy fuck.
[00:25:47] Who knows, man? It's Sunday. It's Sunday. It's Sunday.
[00:25:49] I'm a crazy guy. All right. I'm a crazy guy. Uh, I'm, I'm crazy like that.
[00:25:57] Uh, just dropped a Bando on the deluxe edition. Do not trust this man.
[00:26:06] Fuck news gaming all day. Okay. Well, I wouldn't go that far. All right.
[00:26:10] Calm down. Calm your tits. Okay. Commerchets,
[00:26:13] common tits. Uh, we're just downloading it. We're gonna,
[00:26:17] we're gonna see, we're gonna see what it's like. We're gonna see what it's like.
[00:26:19] All right. All right. All right. All right. You still always metal gear.
[00:26:22] All right. Shut up.
[00:26:26] You constantly make fun of unfuckable losers yet.
[00:26:28] I can't find a single clip of you having sex.
[00:26:32] So fruit prove me wrong and link the clip.
[00:26:34] Oh, um, ask your mom
[00:26:38] if you want to maybe not see a clip, but
[00:26:44] if you want some rave reviews,
[00:26:46] Progmana and the DNC enemy Hassan piker is the best combo. Okay. Oh, yeah, I can play games on my steam deck again
[00:26:54] Shit, I forgot about gaming in general. I like it literally miss so out of my mind
[00:27:00] So, you know shout out to the shut-ass loser gamers for reminding me that this game came out
[00:27:04] I'll take a look at it. I don't even know what it's about. I'll dive into it. Maybe in a little bit
[00:27:11] So we shall see we shall see all right
[00:27:14] Right. Where do I begin? Where do I begin? It's Sunday. It's Sunday. It's not such a
[00:27:20] fun day. I will be honest with you, but at least some people are having fun. That's right.
[00:27:29] Trigger warning, millennial cringe. Okay. It's coming right at you. US Senate candidate Mallory
[00:27:34] McMurray is traversing the Michigan Democratic Party endorsement convention caucus meetings
[00:27:38] with a ban this afternoon.
[00:27:54] This is Mamala, this is Pete Buttigieg, this is millennial cringe, this is a peak fey-lennial
[00:28:03] cringe, okay?
[00:28:05] And let me tell you something, folks, a lot of you are going to look at this and go,
[00:28:09] um, this sucks.
[00:28:12] I feel like the Michigan Democratic Party is exactly the type of people who look at the
[00:28:16] shit and go, that's me.
[00:28:18] That's so me.
[00:28:19] She speaks to me.
[00:28:20] Okay.
[00:28:21] Why do you hate fun?
[00:28:29] I truly feel like this is a lock.
[00:28:36] She has a lot more coveted endorsements within the ranks of the party, the warrenite branch.
[00:28:45] I would not be surprised if she gets it.
[00:28:54] I would not be surprised if she locks down.
[00:28:56] I think Abdul obviously deserves it.
[00:28:58] I'm Mr. Endorser of Dr. Abdul El Sayed, but, uh, this is exactly the kind of shit that
[00:29:07] the Dems love.
[00:29:08] And this is the MDP, right?
[00:29:10] This is, this is where the inside baseball happens.
[00:29:15] And this is exactly the target audience for this kind of shit.
[00:29:21] So yeah, Dr. Abdul responded to it. I saw, to which he said, that's what you get when
[00:29:34] you don't have a message. You ascended candidate Abdul. So it says the band passes by his media
[00:29:39] availability. I agree. And, and people will say, Oh, that's just joyless. It's like, well,
[00:29:45] you know, we're fighting fascism, lock the fuck in, you know, that's my attitude about
[00:29:49] it. But, uh, yeah, obviously a lot of other people will have different opinions. She doesn't
[00:30:00] say anything of value in this clip. And that's because McMoron sent a policy paper to APAC
[00:30:04] for their endorsement. There's legitimate reason to be skeptical of anything she says.
[00:30:07] She wanted their support, but they were already fully backing Stevens. McMoron may not get
[00:30:11] APAC funding from the official organization itself, but their donors fund her set up campaign
[00:30:16] and her stance on Israel and her Palestine is unclear. When a politician is so unclear
[00:30:19] about an 80 to 20 issue for a base, it's telling to which you Mitch voter said, no winning
[00:30:24] over online leftists. It's best to ignore them. A lot of voices with demands about releasing
[00:30:28] positive papers equals one that never, one that would never budge and misinformation
[00:30:32] and say, look at the policy sheet you just released and spamming on social media, just
[00:30:36] like they mislead lifetime lobby donors from J street equals APAC, discourage evolution
[00:30:40] on policy. APAC comes out as the winner.
[00:30:44] constantly shifting goalposts with their vote. I like that this person is just straight up saying,
[00:30:48] I don't want to know about my candidates like actual views. I don't want to know what my
[00:30:55] candidate has said to APEC about what their views would look like on an 80-20 issue. It's cool,
[00:31:01] man. Yeah. I mean, look, I already, I have a dog in this fight, right? I'm open about it. Yeah,
[00:31:08] I like Abdul. The reason why I like Abdul is because I know what his positions are on this,
[00:31:12] Right? I know what his positions are. You don't. But you also seemingly don't care.
[00:31:21] I guess that's the difference. Do we want to have democracy or do we want to have oligarchs
[00:31:27] dominate the land and buy out our politicians? For many people on election Twitter, they don't care.
[00:31:34] They don't care if oligarchs buy out our politicians.
[00:31:38] Yeah, remember when people kept saying, Islam is not a Democrat, turns out it's a good thing.
[00:31:43] No, do you consider yourself more of a supporter of the progressive movement? 55% say yes. Only
[00:31:51] 45% according to this NBC poll say they consider themselves a part of the Democratic Party as
[00:31:57] opposed to the progressive movement. It's the majority now. I think it would be nice. It would
[00:32:05] be nice if all of these centrist Democratic Party boosters started recognizing that.
[00:32:16] Part of that already happened with Barack Obama.
[00:32:19] Barack Obama recognized it.
[00:32:21] Guys, the download completed, shut up, okay?
[00:32:26] Calm down.
[00:32:27] Yes, the download for progmodic completed.
[00:32:31] Look, look, the point I'm trying to make is this.
[00:32:45] People within the ranks of the Democratic Party demand more, and Democrats are starting
[00:32:51] to recognize that, and they're trying to do everything they can to undermine that change.
[00:32:58] not offer exactly what people want, okay? To not offer exactly what people want. That
[00:33:04] is the goal here. Ultimately, they want malleable candidates in positions of power, malleable
[00:33:11] candidates that will still put the corporate interest first before they put your interest
[00:33:16] second or sometimes last. So remember that when we are fighting this battle and you
[00:33:26] are talking to others when you are trying to get people to go out and vote, especially
[00:33:31] in the primary structure. The primaries is where the future of the party is decided.
[00:33:38] It's very, very, very important. Malleable Mallory, malleable McMoroll. What is this?
[00:33:55] gets worse. He said, why weren't you happy with us recognizing the genocide? What is this?
[00:34:02] It's constantly shifting goalposts, but their voter support is never up for grabs. You should
[00:34:05] ignore and communicate to the normal public. The goalpost shifted so much recognizing that
[00:34:09] genocide is happening is no longer the post. Opposing offensive weapons sales is no longer
[00:34:13] the post. Emphasis on their support or vote is not up for grabs. I don't know how you moral
[00:34:17] reason, morally reason with arming a country, committing a genocide. The goal of the left was
[00:34:21] never to merely recognize the genocide that was occurring. It was to stop the genocide,
[00:34:25] and this is why this issue causes tension. Liberals have no real desire to stop the genocide.
[00:34:29] Yeah, I just don't understand why people just so openly will be like, come on, man.
[00:34:35] She recognized that it's a fucking genocide. Well, more do you want? It's like, okay, I don't know.
[00:34:39] If you actually recognize it, then you should probably put an end to it, right? You should
[00:34:43] probably try to hold this institution, this entity accountable that has done this genocide,
[00:34:50] right? The significance of the term genocide is not just so we feel good that we got you to say it.
[00:34:57] We want you to also issue punishments accordingly.
[00:35:04] This is the problem. A lot of the election Twitter guys, especially those who are on the
[00:35:10] centrist variety, they only think about winning elections. They only think about this in terms
[00:35:15] of like, what can a candidate say that is mathematically calculable that will bring in
[00:35:21] the highest percentage of voters? This is not what we are looking for. We're looking for solving
[00:35:26] issues, okay? The left wants candidates to actually make material changes that will be
[00:35:36] beneficial for the working class, okay? It's not just about winning elections. The fact that
[00:35:43] those issues, especially left populism, is communicable, is easy to communicate,
[00:35:49] it's easy to understand, it's easy to comprehend, and will help win elections, is an added benefit.
[00:35:56] Okay? Is it added benefit? It's good. It's good. It's great. Glad that it works that way.
[00:36:05] But there are plenty of positions that the left holds, even when it's not exactly popular.
[00:36:11] The left holds those positions because they're true, right? It wasn't popular to advocate for
[00:36:17] for a Palestinian emancipation after October 7. It wasn't popular before October 7.
[00:36:23] We didn't do that to win elections. We did that because it's just the correct position to hold.
[00:36:29] We did that because it was the just position to hold. Same with Cuba.
[00:36:35] Right now, many people don't understand what the fuck's going on in Cuba.
[00:36:41] They don't care, but that doesn't change the reality that we are starving Cuba.
[00:36:47] That must end, especially as Donald Trump now talks about potentially bombing Cuba.
[00:36:54] The idea that you are acknowledging this but not doing anything to change it is showing
[00:37:00] me everything I already knew about your calculations.
[00:37:04] purely performative. For us, it's not performative. We actually do want something.
[00:37:12] What good is democracy if your candidate wins and then they don't advance your interests?
[00:37:21] It's nothing then, it's just team sports. You're going back to simply team sports, okay?
[00:37:34] It's just fucking team sports.
[00:37:53] That's not what politics is about.
[00:37:54] Politics is about winning power, not just winning power for your team, not just winning
[00:37:59] power for team Democrats.
[00:38:03] about winning power for your people, winning power for your neighbors, winning power for
[00:38:08] your friends and your family, winning power for the working class.
[00:38:12] That's what politics is about.
[00:38:15] And these guys who don't even get fucking paid in many circumstances are just on a team
[00:38:22] that doesn't represent them.
[00:38:25] It doesn't make sense.
[00:38:26] I don't understand it.
[00:38:28] I truly, truly do not understand it.
[00:38:33] Anyway, yeah, there's another, there's another Atlantic article this time about, this time
[00:38:47] about the, the, yeah, your Rosenberg wrote about me, the problem with the Sompiker, with
[00:38:52] the Sompiker's Einstein story, people scrutinizing influence for their views should also hold
[00:38:55] them to account for their facts.
[00:38:57] He's going to say Einstein was actually, oh no, Megasinist, how dare you, and not a socialist
[00:39:02] at all, you know, I assume I haven't read it yet. But in any case, it's very fun that
[00:39:11] Atlantic, which is, whose editor in chief is a Israeli concentration camp prison guard
[00:39:18] famously, is, is very frustrated with my presence.
[00:39:25] We have Manu Raju, how a must win Michigan Senate race just became a GOP opening, let's
[00:39:33] take a look.
[00:39:34] Growing more bullish about their chances of flipping the Senate, but in Michigan, a primary
[00:39:39] fight could douse those hopes.
[00:39:41] Donald Trump should not be the president.
[00:39:43] I'm leading the Articles of Impeachment on our pageant.
[00:39:48] People love to say well it's because he's Arab and Muslim.
[00:39:50] No, it's because I'm f***ing from Michigan.
[00:39:52] started as an intraparty feud, now is a clash over the party's future. What it stands for
[00:39:58] in the Trump era, and just how far left they should go. The battle includes former public
[00:40:04] health official Abdul El Sayed, a 41-year-old who is backed by Bernie Sanders, and is staking
[00:40:10] out the most progressive positions. This is about electability. The party wants to hold
[00:40:15] on to this scene, of course. There is this notion that electability is about being the
[00:40:19] least offensive. If that were true, why would Donald Trump have won the presidency twice?
[00:40:24] And too often in the Democratic Party, we're willing to move on our positions because of
[00:40:29] what Republicans say about us. I don't back down to anyone on anything.
[00:40:35] God damn, that's a good, good take, good take, good take, good take.
[00:40:40] That's bars. And it's true. And I think that's a winning message. I think that's not only a
[00:40:46] a winning message in the Democratic primary, but I also think that's a winning message
[00:40:49] in the general.
[00:40:51] That is a convincing message, as long as you have your convictions, as long as you say
[00:40:56] the truth, I think we have to give people more credit.
[00:41:00] I know that we can get more people on board, independents, moderates, people who have left
[00:41:08] the Democratic Party are willing to return.
[00:41:13] And many of them will, this is the thing, right?
[00:41:17] The Democratic Party knows that many of them will reluctantly return.
[00:41:22] Do we want them to reluctantly return and vote against Republicans or do we want them
[00:41:26] to vote for change?
[00:41:30] What do you think is going to be a message that resonates?
[00:41:36] What do you think is going to create long standing support to ensure that Republicans
[00:41:43] never won again. We don't want people to reluctantly vote against the Republican Party. We want
[00:41:53] people to enthusiastically vote for candidates. That's the major difference between us in
[00:42:02] this community and the centrist Democrats that demand incremental change.
[00:42:08] The establishment has its own favorite, Haley Stevens, a more moderate congresswoman from
[00:42:13] the Detroit suburbs.
[00:42:15] Every single poll shows I'm the best person or the only person that can beat Mike Rogers.
[00:42:21] And then there's a state senator, Mallory McMoroll, angling for both wings of the party,
[00:42:26] while offering this warning as the GOP unites behind Mike Rogers, a former congressman who
[00:42:31] narrowly lost the Senate bid in 2024.
[00:42:34] they aimed to make Michigan their firewall to prevent Democrats from netting the four
[00:42:39] seats they need to win back power.
[00:42:41] And if he wins this seat, if they are successful at trying to buy this seat, then there is
[00:42:47] no path at all for Democrats to take control of the U.S. Senate.
[00:42:52] They're not going to win.
[00:42:54] Like that's the thing.
[00:42:56] Who is more likely to lose to Mike Rogers?
[00:42:59] I personally think someone who is wishy-washy in the center on issues or someone who's an
[00:43:05] establishment Democrat. This is what happened in 2024 in Michigan, right? Yes, the conditions
[00:43:12] are different. Yes, currently the environment favors the Democrats, but it's too big of
[00:43:18] a risk in my opinion. It's too big of a risk to go for someone who openly says, I am trying
[00:43:27] to win the Goldilocks voter, some of the more conservatives within the Democratic primary system
[00:43:33] and also some of the more progressives. I'm gonna try to vacuum up as many votes as possible because
[00:43:39] that reads as insincere, okay? That reads as insincere, that reads as business's usual politics.
[00:43:47] And people want fighters, people want a candidate that you know what they represent. People want
[00:43:55] candidates that they are assured will fight for them, right?
[00:44:00] G.O.P. Outside Group is preparing to spend a staggering $45 million in the final weeks
[00:44:08] of the midterms, more than any other pickup opportunity. All as Rogers now has a bigger
[00:44:14] war chest than any of his three would be opponents.
[00:44:18] That's not gonna be a issue.
[00:44:20] That's not gonna be a issue.
[00:44:21] in the swing state that pres
[00:44:24] nearly won twice and lost
[00:44:27] a fire brand to energize
[00:44:30] harder line. Anybody comm
[00:44:33] Trump in the maga movement
[00:44:37] for that's number one or a
[00:44:40] or even a leadership ally
[00:44:44] to swing voters like this
[00:44:47] up for grabs. It very much
[00:44:50] or Republican. Speaking to
[00:44:53] his hometown of Ann Arbor,
[00:44:59] like abolishing ice. It's
[00:45:06] as to why they should be
[00:45:08] corporations or why they
[00:45:12] like abolishing ice or gu
[00:45:16] race right now is that pe
[00:45:18] of the same old democrat
[00:45:20] who lack courage but a glaring divide is is the dog allowed to move today no yeah
[00:45:28] you forgot the new meta isn't that the dog is not allowed to move the new meta
[00:45:34] is oh my god where is the dog did you kill the dog okay here look place look
[00:45:43] at that I've shocked her so much she dead you see that she's literally dead
[00:45:48] she's not even responding to the electrocution.
[00:45:56] Yeah, the new meta is the dog is never there.
[00:46:04] We're Tisserey chicken.
[00:46:17] Anyway let's continue.
[00:46:24] Over Israel, in a state with a huge Arab American community and Dearborn and a big Jewish voting
[00:46:29] plot.
[00:46:30] The dog isn't allowed to move today based on the angry replies.
[00:46:34] Is this person not watching the stream?
[00:46:36] Are they watching on, are they just like watching,
[00:46:40] not just watching the chat, I think?
[00:46:47] Or maybe just a bot?
[00:46:51] Do you not understand?
[00:46:52] We're explaining it to you.
[00:46:53] Yeah, the dog is not allowed to move.
[00:46:57] I like that you don't even know.
[00:46:58] I like that you don't even know the name of my dog. By the way, you're just in here. You're in it
[00:47:05] You're in it for just peer shit talk. Okay audio only mode. Maybe not even audio only mode but on mute
[00:47:13] Just in it looking at the chat seeing what kind of reactions you can get from the fucking community
[00:47:20] Why are you letting trolls annoy you they're winning? I mean, they're not this is not annoying me at all
[00:47:24] all I'm having fun with it.
[00:47:25] Sporting Abdul because he's not taking
[00:47:29] in that money. He's against the apartheid.
[00:47:32] I guess sending tax money to fund
[00:47:34] a genocide in Israel and independent
[00:47:36] UN inquiry concluded last year that
[00:47:38] Israel had committed genocide
[00:47:40] against Palestinians in Gaza,
[00:47:41] an accusation the Israeli government
[00:47:43] firmly rejects. El Sayed, a son
[00:47:46] of Egyptian immigrants who's born
[00:47:48] in Michigan and lost to Governor
[00:47:50] Gretchen Whitmer in a tense 2018
[00:47:53] The 18 primary was blunt on his views.
[00:47:56] You said Israeli government is evil, do you think they're just as evil as Hamas?
[00:48:00] Yes, killing tens of thousands of people makes you pretty damn evil.
[00:48:03] It's not how evil is this one versus that one, Hamas, evil.
[00:48:06] Israeli government evil, we can say both.
[00:48:08] Is Netanyahu in your view, he's a war criminal?
[00:48:11] Absolutely.
[00:48:12] Do you not think he is?
[00:48:13] When you conduct a genocide, you're a war criminal.
[00:48:15] What do you make of it?
[00:48:19] It's so basic too.
[00:48:21] It's just kind of funny when people are like, well, how can you say that?
[00:48:27] It's like, I don't know.
[00:48:29] This is just like the most basic position of all time, you know?
[00:48:34] This is the most basic position of all time.
[00:48:39] What are we talking about?
[00:48:40] And it's also the overwhelming majority position.
[00:48:42] It's the position of virtually every human rights group.
[00:48:46] It's the position of the ICC.
[00:48:47] the position of the ICJ, you know, it doesn't make any sense. It's unbelievable that people
[00:48:55] are afraid to say it, right? Why is Ronald scared of you? Manu, you mean? He's not. He's
[00:49:00] actually invited me to do his show. We just never had the time to be able to do it. He's
[00:49:09] not.
[00:49:10] Exactly. Hailey Stevens is backed by AP. I find that disastrous for our politics. You
[00:49:16] you should be more interested in what's happening in Michigan than you are interested in what's
[00:49:19] happening in Tel Aviv.
[00:49:20] But about 60 miles away in Lansing, one Stephen supporter tells the congresswoman support
[00:49:25] for Israel.
[00:49:26] It's a normal position for normal Democrats to support and, you know, be allies with
[00:49:34] Israel.
[00:49:35] No, it's not.
[00:49:36] You are literally, again, you are in the unbelievably tiny sliver minority at this point in the
[00:49:43] Democratic Party.
[00:49:45] You are totally, this is not a normal position, okay?
[00:49:50] This is like being an anti-abortion Democrat, okay?
[00:49:55] Right now, overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly, Democrats are pro-bodily autonomy for women,
[00:50:03] okay?
[00:50:04] Perhaps at a different time, at a different place, that was not the case.
[00:50:07] But now it's a 90-10 issue, right?
[00:50:10] So is Israel.
[00:50:12] So when you come out, so when you come out and you're like, well, you know, it's, it's
[00:50:17] good.
[00:50:18] It's good that we are still supporting and sending weapons and sending money to this
[00:50:25] foreign country that's committing a genocide and doing a litany of war crimes and dominating
[00:50:32] American foreign policy in a very meaningful way, taking up so much of our bandwidth.
[00:50:42] basically playing Trump like a fiddle, causing gas prices to go up as a consequence of manipulating
[00:50:50] the American administrative state into taking violent action against a totally separate sovereign
[00:50:57] nation like Iran.
[00:50:59] That is an unbelievably unpopular position, okay?
[00:51:04] No one wants this, and it's not just even the Democratic Party.
[00:51:09] of the Democratic party people are like nah we're done we're done we're done
[00:51:13] we're fucking done I'm a normal Democrat I want to vote for a normal
[00:51:16] Democrat the 42 year old Stevens who first won a battleground district in
[00:51:21] 2018 is running a middle of the road campaign it wants to stay focused on
[00:51:26] economic issues you have the support of a pack in this race I'm wondering do you
[00:51:32] embrace that support well look I'm campaigning in a grassroots ray alongside
[00:51:38] a ton of engaged Michiganders but there's also talk about from some of your
[00:51:43] opponents here that Israel in their view committed genocide and Gaza do you
[00:51:47] agree with that I don't agree with that and like I said I've been very
[00:51:51] consistent on this issue Manu I just think we need to see long-term peace we
[00:51:56] need to make that position though oh my god Manu is literally Manu has more
[00:52:01] smoke for the pro APEC Democrat in this race. All my stars and garters, what am I seeing?
[00:52:10] What am I seeing? A sea change. That's what? Oh my God. Manu Raju interviewed a candidate
[00:52:18] who said Israel is evil and had less pushback for the candidate who said Israel is evil
[00:52:24] versus a candidate who is openly pro Israel. This is a tide shift. You have to understand
[00:52:31] Now, this is not going to be the same for Dana Bash.
[00:52:34] It's not going to be the same for Jake Tapper, but the very fact that CNN, one of the major
[00:52:40] anchors on CNN is now conducting interviews like this that is more adversarial towards
[00:52:46] the pro-Israel position, means that we have seen such a dramatic change in attitude in
[00:52:54] American politics.
[00:52:57] a dramatic change in attitude in American politics, that even CNN is being more responsive to this
[00:53:03] change. Okay? That is unbelievable. This doesn't mean that the entire institution all of a sudden
[00:53:11] is going to be anti-Zionist. Okay? Yeah, Eton Nehyn from Haaretz says,
[00:53:19] it says a lot about our political discourse, that something is a no-brainer, that Hamas or
[00:53:22] evil is treated as a God's question. The smart candidates are taking this opportunity to shine
[00:53:25] the light back on Israel's messianic government. Once again, um, wait, what is this? Obviously,
[00:53:32] this is a stupid question, but whoever hosts Hassan Fickery at an election rally, brought it
[00:53:37] on themselves. Sure. I'm talking about say it's clever response. I'm saying this is an easy pivot
[00:53:40] that puts pressure back on pro-Israel leadership in the DNC and beyond to condemn the Israeli
[00:53:44] government has mostly those, uh, so has been give air is a pretty easy sell. Now, Hassan Fickery is,
[00:53:52] It's funny.
[00:53:53] It's not a dumb question after 10, 7.
[00:53:55] It reflects the remarkable pro-Hamas tilt and activist circles and on the Hassanpike
[00:53:58] ring on the left.
[00:53:59] Now being courted by the DSA, also Hamas apologetics on the Jewish left, the JVP and Jewish currents.
[00:54:05] So here's the thing.
[00:54:07] Here's the thing.
[00:54:09] Okay?
[00:54:11] People coming on board with this position, people coming on board with this position
[00:54:15] is good.
[00:54:16] Okay?
[00:54:17] It means that discourse has shifted.
[00:54:19] no person that's running for a Senate on the Democratic Party side is going to be like
[00:54:24] Hamas is a militant resistance group that is exercising their legal right to militarily
[00:54:34] resist against an apartheid state, right?
[00:54:37] We're not there yet, unfortunately.
[00:54:39] It's the truth, and I will say the truth, but the expectation from politicians, especially
[00:54:45] have an unbelievable spotlight on this is not going to be for them to say the entire truth,
[00:54:54] hopefully one day, okay? Once the dust is settled, you will see. But the very fact that
[00:55:01] someone can openly, someone can openly say like, look, dude, it's just this conversation is not
[00:55:07] even about Hamas, it's about Israel. And the conversation shouldn't even be about Israel,
[00:55:11] It's a ton deal amongst the base of support is good. Okay. It's good. I watch, watch out
[00:55:24] for co-opting operations like Libs did with BLM. Okay. No one at this stage of the discourse,
[00:55:31] people are not co-opting it. Israel is evil message. Okay. The co-optation is, is taking
[00:55:37] place. The co-opting is taking place on the McMorah wing of the party where they'll be like,
[00:55:41] well, Israel is doing a lot of mean things, but we still need to give them weapons.
[00:55:47] That's people trying to co-op that message, right? That's people trying to co-op that message.
[00:55:55] But the reality is, anyone that just straight up says embargo, accountability for Israel,
[00:56:03] So that's not a message that is co-optable by the political class as it stands currently.
[00:56:10] Okay?
[00:56:12] That is not a message that is co-optable by the political wing of the party or the, you
[00:56:19] know, candidates themselves.
[00:56:22] So anyone that will come out and be like, no, we have to do accountability to Israel.
[00:56:25] This is ridiculous.
[00:56:26] That's good.
[00:56:27] We're going to hurt you and Jeroborn when you need those air boaters.
[00:56:30] Look, I'm out here every single day.
[00:56:33] for Michiganders who are dealing with rising costs, who are worried about their jobs.
[00:56:39] McMorro, the 39-year-old Democratic whip in the state Senate, goes further than Stevens.
[00:56:44] Do you think that Benjamin M. Yadu has committed war crimes in Gaza?
[00:56:48] I do.
[00:56:49] Hassanabi, I'm coming for Hassanabi.
[00:56:51] Hassanabi, I'm coming for you.
[00:56:55] Buddy.
[00:56:56] You got to dial back, okay?
[00:57:02] be normal, please. It's weird. You know, watching the devastation, I do believe the work I'm
[00:57:09] working on. She stumps in breweries, including one in the Detroit suburb of Canton. I like
[00:57:14] Mallory. She's a tough talker. McMorrow says El Sayed's rhetoric does not match reality.
[00:57:21] Rhetoric is nice, but that's what the chatter said. Chatter said, results are better. Do
[00:57:29] do you think that he is pr
[00:57:32] his campaign? I think a lo
[00:57:35] party looking for someone
[00:57:37] to shake things up. Absolu
[00:57:40] and talking about issues
[00:57:42] without knowing how to ac
[00:57:44] things is not going to sh
[00:57:46] just lobbing bombs from t
[00:57:49] has drawn criticism from
[00:57:52] first dances on issues su
[00:57:55] pack money. It's not just
[00:57:57] about whether or not you truly and deeply hold on to them.
[00:58:00] But does it look like to you that?
[00:58:02] Yeah, that's a classic take of like, I'm a serious candidate.
[00:58:12] My opposition is a die-in-the-wool activist
[00:58:16] who will try to gain as much support as possible.
[00:58:20] But they're not serious about doing politics.
[00:58:23] That's bullshit.
[00:58:24] We saw that with Zoran.
[00:58:25] People said that exact same thing about Zoran.
[00:58:27] Zoran is a better governor, okay? And I don't mean like literally the governor of New York,
[00:58:32] obviously that's not his position. He's a mayor, but he is a better politician, a better elected than
[00:58:40] 99.9% of Democrats, right? Centrist Democrats try to weaponize this
[00:58:47] moderate framework as though it means that you will be a better candidate. It means that you
[00:58:53] you will be a better politician once elected. It's not the case, okay? Governance, yeah,
[00:59:00] not governor, governance. Zoram Moundani has shown that no, actually being the most left,
[00:59:09] being the leftmost candidate, doesn't just mean you're, you're, you're, you're engaging
[00:59:15] an empty rhetoric. Okay. This kind of attack from the center towards his left flank is
[00:59:27] also turning into bullshit. McMorrow is shifting her positions. She does not have the same
[00:59:33] deeply held views as you. I know where my positions are and it's clear that she's moved
[00:59:38] on a lot of these questions. Well, Stevens accepts corporate tax money. McMorrow says
[00:59:42] She now refuses it after accepting it in past campaigns. That's a change. That's a flip. McMoro defends her pivot over the years. I learned that not only can we can she's like, she's like, you don't understand like corporate pack money, Israel, you know, I was I've grown, I've grown from my positions since last year.
[01:00:06] Okay, I've learned I've grown. Okay, well.
[01:00:08] You know, when, when Abdul was running in 2018, the governor's race, right?
[01:00:14] In the gubernatorial race, he, he knew about those positions ahead of time.
[01:00:17] So maybe it's time to, to reward people who were right all along instead of assuming that
[01:00:25] whatever positions they take now are far too radical, far too radical now, you, you, you
[01:00:32] arrived at our side, our our positions. Great, wonderful, fantastic. But you can't use your
[01:00:39] newcomer status to yell at people who have already been there while simultaneously talking
[01:00:45] about other positions that they currently hold that you might adopt two cycles from now.
[01:00:58] but he can't be Republican likes and I am willing to be somebody who evolves.
[01:01:03] El Sayed has accused Mcmorrow of co-opting his positions and copying his homework poorly.
[01:01:10] This is governing, it's not middle school.
[01:01:12] Yet it's El Sayed who has generated the most headlines,
[01:01:15] like when he barnstormed college campuses with widely followed left-wing streamer
[01:01:20] Hassan Piker, who has a history of inflammatory comments, including saying Hamas is a quote
[01:01:26] Thousand times better than Israel. I love that. I love when they put that shit on the CNN
[01:01:33] Because I feel like the CNN audience is gonna hear that and be like wait a minute
[01:01:37] comments including saying Hamas is a quote this this statement is
[01:01:44] Perfectly positioned to sound controversial
[01:01:49] But it causes people to think about it and and reflect on it and
[01:01:55] and arrive at a position that CNN executives don't want to hear, that politicians don't
[01:02:04] want to hear at all, okay? Because most people, especially in 2026, when they hear that, they
[01:02:09] go, yeah, I kind of understand what that is. I get where that's coming from. I'm not the
[01:02:14] The biggest fan of Hamas, right?
[01:02:21] But that is a quantifiable statement to make.
[01:02:25] It's got something for everybody in it, okay?
[01:02:30] That's why I made it.
[01:02:31] Like, it's a statement to force people to reflect on, okay?
[01:02:44] Incorrect comparison. Why? Oh, because I'm not saying Likud versus Hamas. Is that what it is? Well, Hamas is the expression of the Palestinian resistance just as, you know, Israel as it stands currently is Likud. Okay. Is the coalition that Likud is put together.
[01:03:01] So that's the reason why I don't have an issue making this comparison.
[01:03:13] There's also a problem with this sentiment for those who want to oppose it, right?
[01:03:21] For those who want to oppose it, they can't make the argument on the numbers.
[01:03:26] They can't turn around and say, no, here's why Israel is actually a lot better.
[01:03:30] They can't.
[01:03:34] That's why it's a perfect statement, in my opinion.
[01:03:43] But the very act of having this conversation itself moves the needle in our direction.
[01:04:00] This is not a bad thing, this is a good thing, okay?
[01:04:03] It's a very good thing.
[01:04:06] Well, sometimes better than Israel in this about the 9-11 attacks.
[01:04:13] America deserved 9-11, dude, f*** it, I'm saying it.
[01:04:16] While Piker later walked back to remarks about 9-11, El Sayed's opponents have seized
[01:04:21] on that.
[01:04:22] Should he have brought him into campaign with them?
[01:04:23] I wouldn't have.
[01:04:24] Yeah.
[01:04:25] Well, first of all, that's not someone I'd be campaigning with.
[01:04:28] Because it's un-American.
[01:04:30] And we shouldn't say that America deserves 9-11.
[01:04:34] This is about winning for Michigan.
[01:04:35] El Sayed pushes back.
[01:04:37] What do you say?
[01:04:38] My understanding of America is it's a place where we have freedom of speech.
[01:04:41] My understanding of America is it's a place where we're willing to have
[01:04:44] conversations with folks with whom we disagree.
[01:04:46] I went on Fox and Friends this morning.
[01:04:48] Is it un-American to go and speak on Fox and Friends?
[01:04:50] Or are we drawing certain kinds of lines?
[01:04:52] And it's that penchant for cancel culture that I think people hate about Democrats.
[01:04:56] But you're actively campaigning with them.
[01:04:58] Is it a choice you're making?
[01:04:59] For sure.
[01:05:00] So why make that choice to actively campaign with them?
[01:05:03] with it because I know that he's having a conversation with a number of folks who feel
[01:05:08] locked out. Part of that conversation is whether. Yep. Oh no. Haley Stevens doesn't want me on her
[01:05:17] side. What are we going to do? The party should dump Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer,
[01:05:25] whom Stevens has praised. You had called Chuck Schumer a great leader. Do you stand by that?
[01:05:30] Look, inside baseball, look, you know what? That kind of stuff will deal with when I get there.
[01:05:37] But, oh my God, I think like, God, this, like a Stevens versus Abdul matchup would be so insane,
[01:05:44] too. Like, if McMarra wasn't in the cards right now, like, can you imagine a Stevens versus
[01:05:52] Abdul matchup, dude? It would be Grand Platinum 2.0, okay? It would be another Grand Platinum
[01:05:59] victory condition. Cause like she has no redeemable qualities. Like she is an apex stooge. She's
[01:06:06] pro Chuck Schumer. Like it is so, it is so bad. It is so bad. It's, it's literally just
[01:06:15] the classic battle of like, uh, the establishment wing of the party that has a delivered failure
[01:06:20] after failure versus, uh, this rising left flank that, uh, has a lot of momentum on its
[01:06:27] side. Unfortunately, elections are not lost in one on that popular momentum. I know it sounds
[01:06:33] crazy to say because that's what elections are supposed to be, who you got on your side,
[01:06:37] how many people are on board with your message, right? But that's just not how elections work
[01:06:42] in the United States of America, because it's not necessarily about who's message.
[01:06:49] You abide by who you genuinely believe is going to earnestly fight for your rights.
[01:06:54] It's more so about campaign ads backed by different foreign interest groups and corporate
[01:07:03] lobbies that are just going to inundate you with a barrage of ridiculous attack ads that
[01:07:08] actually cut away from your message, that try to undermine your message.
[01:07:14] But even then, I think Abdul has done a fairly decent job, especially cutting through that
[01:07:19] noise.
[01:07:20] Mcmorrow says it's time for a change. We need new leadership in the Senate.
[01:07:24] You know, Haley Stevens told me that that's an inside baseball discussion. I
[01:07:28] can tell you what I hear on the ground, which is people want a better
[01:07:31] Democratic party. I turn back to my panel, including David Weigel, who's been
[01:07:35] covering this as well. And David, you tweet that kind of summed up basically
[01:07:41] the entire this year, the entire primary basically else I am taking the most
[01:07:46] most maximal left-wing position, McMoral.
[01:07:49] I wouldn't go that far.
[01:07:50] Stephen, oh golly, I love manufacturing.
[01:07:54] It kinda speaks to where we're seeing the party.
[01:07:56] How do you see this?
[01:07:57] We'd like to be pithy.
[01:07:58] But that's been the dynamic for a year.
[01:08:00] Elsa had got in a year ago and just put it down his stakes
[01:08:04] as the Bernie candidate, day one endorsement
[01:08:06] from Bernie Sanders, who's been more aggressive,
[01:08:08] I think this cycle done in the past,
[01:08:10] and saying these are my candidates.
[01:08:11] You guys don't know how to win, I do.
[01:08:13] One of the challenges of Michigan is Democrats
[01:08:15] We do know how to win Michigan, not against Trump twice, but Michigan has a record of senators
[01:08:20] who are not that flashy who do the work.
[01:08:22] Debbie Stabenow and Gary Peters get reelected despite not being social media stars, and
[01:08:26] the offer that they have is from outside a very aggressive, progressive to the left-wing
[01:08:31] media star.
[01:08:32] McMorrow has been.
[01:08:33] There's a reason she was on stage as a state senator at the DNC in the prime time.
[01:08:37] And Marissa, a communicator that Democrats feel very comfortable with.
[01:08:40] Stevens is, I was in Michigan when she won her 2022
[01:08:43] member on member primary with the help of APAC.
[01:08:46] That and the idea that Chuck Schumer supports her
[01:08:48] are very unpopular when I finally talked
[01:08:49] to Michigan Democratic voters,
[01:08:51] even moderate Democratic voters.
[01:08:52] The fact that APAC was for her in 2022
[01:08:56] was coming up a year ago.
[01:08:58] I think it's probably coming up much more now
[01:09:00] that she can't be trusted on
[01:09:03] not just the intricacies of Gaza,
[01:09:04] but that she is a DC establishment Democrat.
[01:09:07] And even though we had those very recently, Michigan,
[01:09:09] maybe we need something completely different now.
[01:09:13] Stevenson McMorrin, we can't let Republicans win Abdul.
[01:09:16] Here are the policies that we'll fight for.
[01:09:18] How are we just let Michigan vote in the primary and let them choose who they
[01:09:20] want a handsome charismatic man is running on popular policy that will help the
[01:09:23] working people. Here's why that's bad for Democrats.
[01:09:26] We can't run candidates that promise to do things.
[01:09:28] We might alienate the people who would prefer.
[01:09:29] We did the exact opposite of what most people want.
[01:09:32] Every poll shows I'm the best person to beat Mike Rogers.
[01:09:34] What does that even mean?
[01:09:36] I hate this labeling outside as a firebrand on the far left,
[01:09:38] calling out a genocide and calling out a genocide in any hours of war criminal,
[01:09:42] I guess now it's considered a firebrand supporting the working class is not
[01:09:44] considered far left. He's the only candidate not bought by corporate interests.
[01:09:48] No to APAC, yes to Medicare for all increased tax on billionaires, close loop
[01:09:51] posts, simple.
[01:09:53] Damn, people are really responding. Absolutely abolish ice.
[01:09:58] See this is, this is what it is. Like, I mean, it's just CNN.
[01:10:02] It's just CNN comments, but like, like people resonate with this.
[01:10:06] It's not a radical position at all. Like even Dave Weigel says like, oh, Abdul saying like I'm gonna take the most
[01:10:12] maximally left-wing position. The reality is we could go a lot further left in that in this country, right?
[01:10:18] We could go a lot further left in that. I'm certainly a lot further left than Abdul on many of these issues, but like
[01:10:25] from the perspective of mainstream media, a guy who comes out and says,
[01:10:29] why are we spending all of our tax dollars on a foreign nation that is like blowing up fucking schools instead of spending our
[01:10:36] dollars on building schools here in the United States of America. Why can't we do Medicare for
[01:10:40] all? Why can't we, you know, stop Israel, restrain Israel? Like, these are not maximally
[01:10:47] left-wing positions at all. These are actually perfectly understandable, majoritarian positions,
[01:10:53] okay? It's just seen as maximally left-wing positions on CNN. It's seen as maximally left-wing
[01:11:01] positions on even MS now. And it is seen as maximally leveling positions on the DNC side of things, right?
[01:11:15] There is this massive divergence between the party and the people. And that same exact divergence
[01:11:26] It actually exists within the media class as well as opposed to the working class and candidates,
[01:11:36] candidates like Abdul, I think, are exposing that contradiction, exposing that divergence
[01:11:42] by being the guy who is more responsive to the needs of the masses. So we shall see.
[01:11:51] Former Vice President Kamala Harris was in Detroit today, speaking at the Democratic
[01:11:55] women's caucus luncheon, and she did not hold back.
[01:12:01] We are dealing with the most corrupt, callous, and incompetent presidential administration
[01:12:10] in the history of the United States. Period.
[01:12:17] Period. Michigan is shaping up to be one of the most closely watched Senate races
[01:12:22] of this entire cycle. And one progressive candidate is already pulling in major national
[01:12:27] endorsements. Abdul El Sayed, a physician, a former Detroit health director and a 2018 candidate
[01:12:35] for governor, has now earned the backing of Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
[01:12:41] A new Emerson College poll shows a neck and neck race between El Sayed and Mallory McMorrow
[01:12:47] at 24% each, but a large percentage of likely primary voters remains undecided. And Abdul
[01:12:55] Ail Sayed joins us now. Thank you for being with us, sir. It is good to talk to you. I want to get
[01:13:01] into right off the top the Iranian war. It is really something that is on the minds of a number
[01:13:08] of Americans. And Dearborn Michigan is home to the largest concentration of Lebanese Americans
[01:13:14] in the US. So what are you hearing about this ceasefire deal between Israel and Lebanon from
[01:13:21] some of the people in Dearborn and throughout Michigan? Obviously, we always pray for peace,
[01:13:26] but we've got to ask ourselves what we actually got out of this in the first place. Why did we even
[01:13:31] fight this war? It's hard to make any sense out of any American lack of war aims because it changed
[01:13:37] every day. But you have to remember who did have war aims. Benjamin Netanyahu has said to
[01:13:43] and run. Thank you for the thank you of the subs been trying to get this war fought for
[01:13:46] the past.
[01:13:47] If LSAT wins the primary, what are his chains that went into the general? It's not, it's
[01:13:50] a lock. It's the easiest lock of my life. It is the easiest guarantee of all time. Okay.
[01:14:00] For a lot of leftist candidates, it's much harder to get out of the primary than it is
[01:14:06] to beat the Republican opposition in the general. Okay. Especially someone like Mike Rogers.
[01:14:12] Abdul is a perfect counter to Mike Rogers, right? He's Michigan through and through.
[01:14:19] And on top of that, he has a background in public health in the state of Michigan. Mike
[01:14:24] Rogers has done quite a bit in terms of undermining public health, not just in Michigan, but all
[01:14:30] across the country, uh, with his, uh, affiliations with, uh, Big Pharma, right? With his background
[01:14:39] on uh... big pharma he has actually started uh... taylor uh... tailoring his message
[01:14:45] against mike rogers as well
[01:14:46] talking about how like mike rogers is responsible for the opioid deaths in this
[01:14:50] country
[01:14:51] so like
[01:14:53] there is
[01:14:55] uh... there is a a a perfect foil situation here as well
[01:15:00] forty years he finally found a president done enough to do it
[01:15:03] and you look at where we are now
[01:15:05] Israel has used this opportunity to try and in effect annex Southern Lebanon and that's
[01:15:09] exactly what they've done.
[01:15:10] So people are afraid and they're sad, they're hoping and praying for peace.
[01:15:14] But then for everybody, you think about the spike in your gas prices and the fact that
[01:15:18] your own tax dollars are what we use to spike those gas prices.
[01:15:21] I think all of us have to look back and ask, how the hell did we get here?
[01:15:25] I want you to hear what some people have been saying about this ceasefire deal.
[01:15:31] I think some people are questioning whether there truly is a ceasefire right now.
[01:15:34] Abba between Israel and Lebanon take a listen to this and I'll have a question for you on the other side
[01:15:41] I'm not I'm not entirely confident. No
[01:15:46] Unfortunately, I wish I could be because I am so scared and worried about all of my relatives that are there right now
[01:15:52] And it's absolutely heart-wrenching to see the news my elementary school my childhood home
[01:15:57] A lot of memories have been wiped out in South Lebanon
[01:16:01] It's going to be very, very hard for the people to rebuild.
[01:16:05] And quite honestly, I'm not optimistic about the ceasefire
[01:16:09] because we had a ceasefire in November of 24,
[01:16:12] and Israel did not comply.
[01:16:16] Can I ask you how you think,
[01:16:18] not just this current moment of war,
[01:16:20] but the last several years of war have changed Americans,
[01:16:23] of all backgrounds, of all life experiences,
[01:16:28] how it has changed their understanding,
[01:16:30] not just of the world, but also of the way
[01:16:32] that our tax dollars have been used
[01:16:34] and how you see that impacting this campaign
[01:16:36] because you see it so much,
[01:16:38] not just from Lebanese Americans in Michigan,
[01:16:41] but so many Americans who seem to actually understand
[01:16:44] our current domestic conditions differently
[01:16:46] because of what they've seen unfold
[01:16:48] on the international stage.
[01:16:51] You know, I think you're exactly right.
[01:16:53] I was the health director for Wayne County.
[01:16:54] I served the community from which both of those two
[01:16:57] individuals, why no personally come from.
[01:17:00] and
[01:17:01] every time you come up with a plan to do something like put glasses on kids
[01:17:04] faces or eliminate medical debt or provide new small businesses health
[01:17:08] insurance
[01:17:09] everybody says doctor
[01:17:10] how you gonna pay for that
[01:17:12] but then we've got a general who wants to drop war plans to bomb iran nobody
[01:17:17] asks general how you gonna pay for that and i think that's exactly what's wrong
[01:17:20] with our politics i think for many americans they're opening their eyes the
[01:17:23] fact that for most of my life if you're under forty
[01:17:27] you've watched our country go to wars and you ask to what end you see service
[01:17:31] members broken over it you see tax dollars spent on it and you see all of
[01:17:35] the things that your government should be doing for you not getting done and so
[01:17:39] i think a lot of people are finally opening their eyes and asking i don't
[01:17:41] pay my taxes so that another country gets a bomb or a tank i don't pay my taxes
[01:17:46] to kill other people's kids i pay my taxes so that our kids get good schools
[01:17:50] and can walk sidewalks that are actually functional can drive clean roads can get
[01:17:54] health care that's why i think for a lot of people they're opening their eyes
[01:17:57] whether they're Lebanese in a community like Dearborn or they're anywhere in the rest of the state and I got to tell you
[01:18:01] I've been in 90 cities people ask the same sets of questions about why are we doing that instead of taking care of my kid or
[01:18:07] Rebuilding my kids schools
[01:18:10] Doctor you have traveled Canada so much of the state
[01:18:13] So I want to ask you to comment on some leaked audio that the free beacon obtained and we're gonna play the audio and that's crazy
[01:18:22] This is MS now dude. What the fuck?
[01:18:27] Emma is now playing Washington Free Beacon. Oh, brother. I swear to God, center right
[01:18:34] liberals turn into, center right liberals turn into MAGA. The moment that you got a left
[01:18:47] flank candidate on the board, okay? It is truly unbelievable to watch. I mean, that's
[01:18:56] crazy. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? You're gonna run with the framing.
[01:19:03] You're gonna run with the framing of the Washington Free Beacon. The Washington Free Beacon is a
[01:19:13] newspaper that perfectly captures the Hitler particles, okay?
[01:19:20] What the fuck are you running with their hit job? It doesn't make any sense.
[01:19:23] I'll come to you at the end of it.
[01:19:27] I also want to remind you guys that there are a lot of people in Dearborn who are sad
[01:19:31] today.
[01:19:32] So like I just don't want to comment on Kimani Khamenei at all.
[01:19:37] I don't think it's worse even touching that.
[01:19:43] So doctor this was a day after the strife that killed the supreme leader and I just want
[01:19:49] to ask about your political calculation here.
[01:19:52] What's the constituency in Dearborn that was mourning this assassination?
[01:19:59] I think anybody in Dearborn or the rest of the state who believes that there's a rule
[01:20:02] of law was mourning an illegal, unjustifiable war.
[01:20:07] There are terrible leaders all over the world.
[01:20:10] The reason why we go after somebody in Venezuela or we go after somebody in Iran, those are
[01:20:16] open questions when you see the president cavorting with leaders in places like Qatar
[01:20:20] or places like the UAE in Saudi Arabia.
[01:20:24] And so I think there are people who are frustrated
[01:20:26] by the fact that there was no justification for this war.
[01:20:29] It was entirely illegal
[01:20:30] because only Congress gets to declare war.
[01:20:32] And I think everybody is frustrated about the fact
[01:20:34] that when you go and fill up your gas tank,
[01:20:36] you're paying $20 more.
[01:20:38] I think it's important for policymakers to step back
[01:20:40] and ask, do we just jump in whenever?
[01:20:45] I don't understand how his controversy
[01:20:46] be said about anyone's death.
[01:20:47] I mean, look,
[01:20:50] dude dude it's it's a it's a total fucking totally ridiculous hit job from a dude that
[01:21:03] was in his campaign that got access still after he left the campaign that had access
[01:21:11] to these uh these these private conversations the long video like if they were to play the
[01:21:17] entire video, which is like 27 minutes long or whatever, you hear his perspective on this
[01:21:22] issue. It's very clear where he just straight up is like, I think it's totally ridiculous
[01:21:30] that we're waging this war. It's unbelievable. It's going to have horrible consequences for
[01:21:35] Americans, going to have horrible consequences for Iranians. It's going to, it's just like an
[01:21:39] unlimited death and destruction campaign. It's like perfectly clear what his position is.
[01:21:47] Um, there is no, there's no defense for this.
[01:21:57] There is no defense for what Trump has done thus far.
[01:22:01] There's not even a defense for it from like a pro-American empire position.
[01:22:08] So yes, I saw, I saw, she's traversing the fucking halls with the ban.
[01:22:15] tells us that they're making war in our interest or do we actually step back and ask whose
[01:22:20] interest is this really? Who really benefits from this war? And I think I wanted to make
[01:22:24] sure that our campaign was not jumping right in like unfortunately too many Democrats have
[01:22:29] to do this incoherent thing where we're saying well if the president's taking us to war then
[01:22:33] we have to stand right there with them but at the same time it was illegal because you
[01:22:37] didn't follow the procedure rules. No, it was illegal, it was unjustifiable, it was unethical,
[01:22:41] it's immoral, it should never have been waged. And so I think more leaders should actually
[01:22:45] be thinking about how we step in with our morals rather than just to be dictated by whichever way
[01:22:50] the political winds are flowing. But I'm not asking about the policy. Look, look, oh my god,
[01:22:55] oh my god, that's it. On this MSNOW chat, guys, we are watching supposedly the most
[01:23:04] liberal, the most like left media out there.
[01:23:08] like that this is unhinged this is unbelievably unhinged dude
[01:23:19] oh my god oh my fucking god let's see what people are saying else that is presidential
[01:23:26] thank you dr. else I ever saying what too many democrats of garbled is an illegal war of naked
[01:23:30] aggression where's this pushback and asking good and tough question but they have republicans on
[01:23:34] Disappointed in the gotcha questions for MS now. So much truth, resulting in a barrage of trolls.
[01:23:39] Primaries are coming, people in our country desperately needs more people like El Sayed.
[01:23:42] Mallory and Stevenson is real first. Dr. El Sayed will be an amazing senator.
[01:23:45] He has expertise, intelligence, and well-spoken opinions backed by facts.
[01:23:54] It's just like, I can't, I can't,
[01:23:57] I don't understand why liberal media is still holding on to this thing like I don't know why they are so oppositional to their left flank I truly don't get it.
[01:24:09] I don't get it.
[01:24:11] Just be be more normal.
[01:24:15] Be more responses that people's needs please.
[01:24:19] Again, this is why I wasn't so critical on the Obama Zoran link up.
[01:24:25] Okay.
[01:24:26] Let's see, which certainly you're very eloquent about and why you're disagreeing.
[01:24:31] I'm asking about the political calculation and the choice that you made as a campaign
[01:24:36] to not weigh in, which earlier in the year, a few days after Charlie Kirk was died, you
[01:24:41] condemned his speech as xenophobic and hateful and did not hesitate.
[01:24:47] So what is with it?
[01:24:48] Yeah, because Charlie Kirk is an American citizen.
[01:24:51] That is MAGA, commies on Twitter are cooking you about the Obama take.
[01:24:56] Yeah, I don't care.
[01:24:57] I don't care.
[01:24:58] I'm not, I'm not in this to deal with, uh, uh, alters, okay, with anti-electoral leftists
[01:25:05] in general.
[01:25:06] It's, it's unbelievably irrelevant to have a conversation about that.
[01:25:10] Okay.
[01:25:11] Commies on Twitter are, many of them are in my community as well, okay.
[01:25:17] The reality of the matter is we have an entirely different agenda.
[01:25:21] it comes to moving the needle, okay? We have a very different attitude. We have a very
[01:25:26] different method. We have a very different assessment of what the major problem is.
[01:25:31] Maybe they think that the revolutionary potential of the masses is here and it's happening,
[01:25:36] and there is an opportunity to create a communist party and sweep up the Marxist-Leninist vanguard
[01:25:45] in all of this fervor, okay? I don't believe that the time for that is here.
[01:25:51] because I talk to a lot of people, I see their anger, I see their resentment.
[01:25:57] But what I also see is a lack of class consciousness and very little political education, okay?
[01:26:06] You have to build a vanguard before you automatically hit the socialism button or the
[01:26:12] communism button, right? It's that simple. Yeah, many people got mad at this. He's already
[01:26:24] in office with a fuck-dissing credibility from peanut brand liberals. This is it, like
[01:26:29] people don't understand. Zogson explaining why Zogron Goydoni has to appear with former
[01:26:34] droner in chief. It's just, it's such a strange position to be in because I eat it from all
[01:26:47] of the, the, you know, left flank, like all of the people who I'm ideologically aligned
[01:26:55] with ironically enough. And then I also constantly get yelled at by fucking the dumb ass centers
[01:27:03] liberals as well. I obviously have a lot more smoke for the centers liberals because they
[01:27:07] do actually have power and they do use that power for evil as opposed to Twitter charpers
[01:27:13] who have no power whatsoever. All they're doing is chirping. So let them chirp is what I say.
[01:27:19] Okay. I'm not going to engage in like left bashing. I'm not going to punch left. I don't care.
[01:27:26] I am, it's fine. You're totally right. I am a Zogson and I am a Zionist. I love the nation state of Israel.
[01:27:41] Talk to me when you make a convincing message where you explain the necessity or the morality of resistance groups
[01:27:53] against America and its allies on a liberal platform where you're able to
[01:27:58] actually cut across that message amongst liberals who who do understand it.
[01:28:03] It's fine. It's okay. There is a reason why they're not yelling at random
[01:28:12] hammer and sickle posters on Twitter every day on CNN and Fox News and MSNOW
[01:28:18] and they're yelling at me instead because you're chirping to the same
[01:28:22] Miko Chamber, I am trying to get this message across to people who are more understanding
[01:28:28] and more sympathetic.
[01:28:31] But it's alright.
[01:28:33] It's alright.
[01:28:37] If you can't comprehend why these people are all up in arms, and not only yelling at
[01:28:43] people like myself, but also yelling at candidates that I have appeared alongside, you're unfortunately
[01:28:52] not very serious about what's going on here. These things all move the needle.
[01:28:58] These things all change the dynamic of the conversation.
[01:29:01] It takes a long time. Okay. It's not overnight.
[01:29:06] It takes a long ass fucking time.
[01:29:14] Did I say eco chamber? I meant echo chamber.
[01:29:18] Is there, is it about what you got me?
[01:29:20] I said, eco chamber instead of echo chamber. I, I, yes, I'm a fucking stupid ass, chud
[01:29:25] loser. I'm fucking dumb. I'm a libtard. I love Israel and you guys got me. Okay.
[01:29:31] The aisle, a person is on and who you're willing to risk offending when it comes to how you
[01:29:37] met out cancel culture.
[01:29:38] Well, I, I don't meet out council for culture rather. Um, well known. I go everywhere and
[01:29:44] talk to everyone. I condemn what Charlie Kirk said because I thought it was racist and xenophobic.
[01:29:49] I'll also condemn what the Ayatollah said, because he was a dictator on his own people.
[01:29:54] But the question is about whether or not our government had the right and the justification
[01:29:59] to assassinate a foreign leader.
[01:30:01] I think under Trump, we probably all agree that this administration has taken certain
[01:30:07] proclivities with the rule of law, and that has led to actions in places like Venezuela
[01:30:12] and Iran that are unjustifiable and unethical.
[01:30:16] Just because you disagree with somebody doesn't mean that you can assassinate them.
[01:30:19] to what international law is supposed to protect from.
[01:30:22] And that's what I was talking about.
[01:30:23] So yeah, I disagree with the IOTOLA.
[01:30:24] I disagree with Charlie Kirk.
[01:30:26] I'll openly say that in every circumstance.
[01:30:28] But the question is whether or not
[01:30:29] that justifies assassination.
[01:30:31] I don't justify the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
[01:30:33] What happened to him was wrong.
[01:30:34] And I don't justify the assassination of a foreign leader
[01:30:37] without actually following through
[01:30:39] and making sure you're standing in account
[01:30:42] with both the laws of our country and international law.
[01:30:45] Abdul, you were just talking about going everywhere
[01:30:48] and talking to anyone.
[01:30:49] And so that in, I do want to ask you about the heat you've taken with respect to the
[01:30:55] leftist podcaster Hassan Piker and folks in the Democratic Party and elsewhere saying
[01:31:03] that he's made anti-Semitic remarks.
[01:31:06] He's made racist remarks.
[01:31:07] This is not someone who you should be associating with.
[01:31:10] How do you justify or reconcile those types of conversations?
[01:31:15] questions. It's just like those type. It's literally it's MS now chat is fucking MS now
[01:31:33] understand understand that is we're no longer like quoting things that I've said we're quoting
[01:31:41] of a quote, of a quote coming from the RNC, okay?
[01:31:46] Emma is now using Washington Free Beacon framing, Washington Free Beacon hit pieces, and also
[01:31:53] RNC framing on a leftist podcast, or leftist Twitch streamer.
[01:32:02] It gives the game away.
[01:32:03] Like, there is this weird converges of interest here.
[01:32:08] When you have someone who represents the interests of the masses, all of a sudden everyone is
[01:32:13] just like, everyone is just going crazy over this.
[01:32:17] Why is this person not talking about the updated remarks from someone like, you know, Ezra
[01:32:24] Klein, for example.
[01:32:25] Why is MS now currently using RNC framing, Fox News framing, rather than the framing
[01:32:32] of Ezra Klein?
[01:32:33] Ezra Klein is King Lib.
[01:32:37] You have to ask that question.
[01:32:38] Did they not read the Ezra Klein piece?
[01:32:41] I'm sure they saw it.
[01:32:44] Why are they still choosing to go along with right wing framing on this?
[01:32:49] There's some connections with your campaign and your candidacy with the need for Democrats
[01:32:57] to be able to reach audiences and voters that perhaps in 2024, they could not motivate to
[01:33:02] the polls.
[01:33:03] Well, I'm just taking the lesson from 2024.
[01:33:07] There are two lessons there.
[01:33:09] The first one was Vice President Kamala Harris invited Hasan Piker to stream from the DNC.
[01:33:13] He went at the invitation of the vice president running for president at the time.
[01:33:18] I basically did the same thing.
[01:33:20] But the second lesson I took is that maybe we were not aggressive enough at making sure
[01:33:24] that we were reaching out to voters we could engage with.
[01:33:27] I understand that folks are frustrated about things that Hasan Piker has said.
[01:33:30] I don't agree with everything he said.
[01:33:32] I don't agree with everything you've said.
[01:33:33] I don't agree with everything anyone has said.
[01:33:36] That's just the nature of human interactions.
[01:33:38] But he has a very large platform.
[01:33:40] He talks to a lot of folks who feel
[01:33:42] locked out of our political system.
[01:33:44] And I think if we want to win elections,
[01:33:45] we have to figure out how to provide them
[01:33:47] an on ramp back into our politics.
[01:33:49] So it's important for me to make sure
[01:33:50] that we're not locking out a whole segment of people
[01:33:53] who get their news from somebody like Hassan
[01:33:55] and making sure that we're engaging with that platform.
[01:33:58] So I go everywhere and talk to everybody.
[01:34:00] In fact, the day that we had Hassan Piker in Michigan,
[01:34:02] I started my day on Fox and Friends.
[01:34:04] Now those folks don't agree with me, I don't agree with them, but I want to be able to talk
[01:34:08] to this liver of people who might be listening who are open minded who say, you know what,
[01:34:11] I really do want to get money out of politics.
[01:34:13] I really do want to put money back in my pocket and I want to pass Medicare for all.
[01:34:16] So I think we need to make sure that we step back out of this cancel culture situation where
[01:34:21] we're saying, oh, we can't talk to certain people because they said certain things and
[01:34:24] make sure that we're creating a pathway back into politics for everyone.
[01:34:27] And that means having the courage to go and have a conversation in all different kinds
[01:34:31] of spaces because you just might.
[01:34:32] You are on with this guy too on the Don Lemon show?
[01:34:34] This argument is dumb or am I wrong?
[01:34:37] Wait, he was the guy who was spitting fire on the Don Lemon show?
[01:34:45] Wait, what the fuck?
[01:34:49] He was cooking on the Don Lemon show.
[01:34:52] Why did he switch up on me?
[01:34:55] Was he the guy?
[01:34:56] Was he the same guy?
[01:34:57] Talk to somebody who agrees with you.
[01:35:00] I wanna go back to policy for a moment
[01:35:02] with the bit of time that we have left with you.
[01:35:05] As we mentioned before, you're a physician,
[01:35:07] public health expert, and you've been running
[01:35:09] on a platform that includes-
[01:35:10] He's on the clock, bro.
[01:35:11] Yeah.
[01:35:12] Medicare for all.
[01:35:13] I think a moment ago, I saw a Medicare for all book
[01:35:15] somewhere in the background of your shot, actually.
[01:35:18] And so I wanna get your take on how that message,
[01:35:22] that movement is going over in Michigan,
[01:35:24] a state that many people view as, you know,
[01:35:27] it's a very competitive, it's often kind of purpley state.
[01:35:30] You'd think that there are in some parts of your state voters who that's a message
[01:35:35] They might not feel as comfortable with and so when you look at the makeup of communities in Michigan
[01:35:41] When you also just think about the current conditions in Congress right now
[01:35:45] Do you truly believe Medicare for all is viable?
[01:35:48] Yes, absolutely. I'm proud actually to have co-written that book and the reason I know it's viable is because I've taken that this campaign all
[01:35:55] over the state. I was in Houghton, which is in the upper peninsula as upper peninsula.
[01:36:00] And we had a hundred people in a room, many of whom voted for Donald Trump, who were there
[01:36:03] to have a conversation about what it means to guarantee health care. I think we do a
[01:36:06] disservice to our politics when we analyze it in this left-right frame and then try to
[01:36:10] fit people in the middle. That's not how the world works. People have all kinds of different
[01:36:14] opinions. Out of guy come up to me and said, you know, I don't like you very much. I said,
[01:36:17] I'm sorry, I like you. He's like, I know. And it seems like you really want me to have
[01:36:20] health care. I said, I do. He's like, that's why I'm going to vote for you. So at the end
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[01:37:22] All right, he cooked and then last hit piece of Sunday.
[01:37:30] Last hit piece of Sunday is Rick Scott.
[01:37:35] Senator Scott is furious with Dems amid his Sompiker feud.
[01:37:46] changes. Nobody at the FBI has ever been held accountable for the over 200,000 Americans
[01:37:52] that have been subnext to ministries. Start having a real conversation about how we do
[01:37:56] that. And I'm very optimistic.
[01:37:57] Okay. So I want to get to this issue as well with Hassan Piker. He spoke.
[01:38:04] Bro, I just, I like, I don't want to be perceived this much. Okay. I feel like this is crazy.
[01:38:16] How is this still going on? How is this still fucking going on? I mean, Rick Scott's like,
[01:38:23] he's got a bone to pick with me personally. He's just real mad that nobody gives a shit.
[01:38:29] I think it's really funny because like half the people don't believe him when they're
[01:38:33] like, yeah, we understand. He was using hyperbolic language when he was making a point, a rhetorical
[01:38:40] point about Republicans not giving a shit about Medicare fraud. And then the other half is like,
[01:38:48] no, I believe that he said that and I like it. And I feel like the second part, the second thing
[01:38:56] is worse for him overall. And I feel like every time he cries about this, more and more people
[01:39:02] swing from the first position to the second one.
[01:39:04] You call the hit out on him and he won't shut the fuck up because he realized no one cares.
[01:39:12] I didn't even call a hit out on him. I didn't. But it is really funny that there are people
[01:39:17] who sincerely believe that I did and actually are on my side on this issue. Like I would not
[01:39:24] have expected people to legitimately be like, no, we actually are on board with that second
[01:39:28] position. I didn't say that, or it wasn't my intention at all. And I feel like Rick Scott
[01:39:35] is turning that into the resounding message in this situation, which I find to be very
[01:39:42] funny.
[01:39:43] At a function.
[01:39:45] Yeah, like my goal there was to highlight the hypocrisy of the Republican party, right?
[01:39:56] rick scott has turned this into a public poll on whether or not people want him assassinated
[01:40:03] for some reason and the outcome of that poll is not one that favors him at all.
[01:40:08] Yale this weekend, this is somebody who said of you, quote, if you cared about Medicare
[01:40:11] fraud or Medicaid fraud, you would kill Rick scott.
[01:40:17] He spoke at Yale this week.
[01:40:19] You said Yale should lose its funding over that.
[01:40:21] I want to read something from a piece in the student paper.
[01:40:23] It says this.
[01:40:24] To truly free society, we enjoy the right to debate and mock those with unsaved reviews
[01:40:28] to prove them wrong in the court of public opinion, wait, by threatening Yale funding
[01:40:35] for merely, oh my God, wait, is Fox News also shitting on Rick Scott?
[01:40:40] Wait, what the fuck?
[01:40:43] Yo, yo, wait, hold on.
[01:40:46] They didn't just let the quote hang.
[01:40:48] They also showed the, the quote, even though the full context of it is me responding to
[01:40:53] my, uh, Mike Johnson.
[01:40:55] Oh, the person who wrote this is a conservative, engaging in debate.
[01:41:02] Scott rejects our core American values.
[01:41:04] Your response.
[01:41:05] Well, first off, he, he wants me killed.
[01:41:10] He wants every capitalist murder.
[01:41:12] I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want you killed, man.
[01:41:15] I don't know why you have turned that into the main point of contention here and it almost
[01:41:23] feels like other people, the more you put that up, other people are now coming on board
[01:41:30] with that message for some reason.
[01:41:31] I would just advise you to stop saying that.
[01:41:35] It seems because you're such an unbelievably unpopular person that like every time you
[01:41:39] say that more people get on board with that message.
[01:41:42] I don't know why you're doing it.
[01:41:44] I don't know why you're doing it. You, you keep crying about it. Rick, Rick, stop crying
[01:41:49] about this. I promise, like it's probably better for you to just leave this alone. You know,
[01:41:55] you're not going to get across your wishes here. It's, it's very, very strange that people
[01:42:01] just like every time you bring this up more and more people are, are aware of your award-winning
[01:42:07] Medicare fraud that you committed to the tune of $1.7 billion, right? Like that's, that's
[01:42:13] probably not good for you. And when they, when they find that out, they, they turn around
[01:42:19] and go, wait a minute, I kind of am on board with this. He started to add, he wants every
[01:42:22] capitalist killed because nobody cared about him. Yeah, I know he's just like trying to,
[01:42:27] trying to add onto the pile. He's like, he loves nine 11. He wanted, he, he wanted to
[01:42:30] do a nine 11 on me. Okay.
[01:42:35] He said that we deserve nine 11. He's clearly anti-Semitic. Democrats are campaigning with
[01:42:41] this guy. He went to Cuba. He went to Cuba with Democrats. He didn't go to the prison
[01:42:46] where here's an example of a political prisoner. That's what's happening in Cuba. They went
[01:42:51] down there and stayed at a four star hotel. So this is the Democrat party today. And that's
[01:42:56] why I'm furious with Yale, the Democrat party.
[01:42:59] He's just like, again, not addressing the question at all. Why are you anti free speech
[01:43:04] was the question? He never mentions how much medical fraud you've done. I know. I'm a,
[01:43:10] i am not a award-winning
[01:43:15] i am not an award-winning medical fraudster
[01:43:18] like uh... rickardo is here okay
[01:43:22] supports this stuff
[01:43:24] yell if they want to go from supports about it once p up capitalist murder in
[01:43:28] this country
[01:43:30] what so i don't want them to get any federal funding
[01:43:32] i mean it's it's pretty simple to be they shouldn't be doing this
[01:43:35] so what about the debate though that conservatives have been having over the
[01:43:38] the last couple of years that they've been run off of campuses. Their viewpoints have
[01:43:41] been silenced. They wait, why is she turning this into a free speech? Is she what the fuck?
[01:43:47] Haven't been allowed to talk and that the first thing that wait, what the fuck? Wait,
[01:43:51] why is this Fox News Sunday anchor Shannon Bream seemingly on my side on this? What is
[01:43:59] happening? I mean, it's pretty vigorous. The Supreme Court, you know, just a couple blocks
[01:44:02] from here is very supportive of it.
[01:44:04] Do you think there's any conflicts in that position
[01:44:08] in saying that Yale should lose funding over this?
[01:44:10] She keeps saying you're being inconsistent.
[01:44:12] This is at odds with the values of free speech.
[01:44:20] Well, first off, these universities
[01:44:23] can do whatever they want.
[01:44:24] Don't just don't come to the federal government
[01:44:25] and ask taxpayers from Florida to fund them.
[01:44:28] Why are we funding Yale?
[01:44:30] Why?
[01:44:31] Why are we funding these?
[01:44:32] I don't know, maybe because they're doing incredibly important research, like, that's
[01:44:42] the...
[01:44:43] But if we're going to cut off funding, I think we should cut it off to Israel, right?
[01:44:49] And not our universities.
[01:44:51] Places.
[01:44:52] If they...
[01:44:53] I believe in the First Amendment.
[01:44:55] I believe everybody has a right to do these things.
[01:44:57] But my tax dollars shouldn't go there, when they want to support people that want to
[01:45:01] murder me and murder capitalist and are anti-Semitic and say an American deserve 9-11, right? So
[01:45:08] that there's no way. Again, he, she goes, don't you think speech that you disagree with should
[01:45:16] still be allowed? And he turns around and goes, no, speech that I don't, is the speech that
[01:45:23] I don't agree with should actually absolutely get the fucking funding hammer. Okay. All right,
[01:45:34] buddy. Are my taxpayer money from Florida should be going to these places. All right,
[01:45:39] Senator Scott, we appreciate your time. Thanks for coming on. Incredible stuff. All right,
[01:45:45] let's get to Mr. Cackie Kurnackie. By the way, this guy talking about like Florida funds is
[01:45:53] is exceptional, exceptional considering he did defund Florida personally to make money
[01:46:01] to the tune of $1.7 billion in Medicare fraud.
[01:46:05] I just wanna point that out before we move on from this, which was the meat of the argument
[01:46:13] that I was presenting, that Republicans clearly don't care about Medicare fraud because Rick
[01:46:19] Rick Scott is is out there and he was the governor of Florida. He's now a senator. So,
[01:46:29] you know, that's that's that's the inconsistency here. It doesn't make a lot of sense. And Rick
[01:46:40] Scott still did that shit. Welcome back NBC News chief data analyst Steve Kornacki is
[01:46:46] year with the results of our latest NBC News decision desk poll. A lot of headlines here, Steve.
[01:46:51] Yeah, Kristen, there's a lot in here. And I always remind people, I think decision desk poll,
[01:46:55] this one's a little bit different than polls that I think people are used to. This is all adults
[01:46:59] casting a very wide net here. But I think the picture that emerges is still very clear. Donald
[01:47:03] Trump standing with the public here now in approval rating in our poll here of just 37 percent.
[01:47:09] The last time this poll reported out a couple months ago, it was 39 percent. The big change
[01:47:14] from then to now of course is the launch of the war in Iran and everything that's continued to
[01:47:19] happen there. So down to 37 percent approval for Trump and mention Iran and look at this a big
[01:47:24] driver of that clearly is how that war is going. Only a third of adults approve of Trump's handling
[01:47:30] of the war in Iran. Only there's a quarter I should say one quarter of Republicans say they
[01:47:36] disapprove. Those who call themselves Republicans that might be something to keep an eye on.
[01:47:41] This continues to be a problem for the president, inflation, the cost of living.
[01:47:44] This has been the story of the second term, only a third approving of how he's handling that.
[01:47:49] This area though, if you want to say there's a bright spot in this poll for Trump, it's right here.
[01:47:52] Now look, it's still majority disapprove on border and immigration, but these marks are higher than
[01:47:57] in other areas and this is an improvement for Trump from earlier this year. Remember the incident
[01:48:02] in Minnesota, all of the attention on ice back then. This number actually has come up a bit on
[01:48:07] border for Trump. Yes, we're going to cover the Iranian. We're going to cover the U.S. Navy firing
[01:48:13] an Iranian cargo ship in the Gulf of Oman. Okay. Yes. People think should happen from here and
[01:48:20] this right here. Take no further action. That's by far the most common choice you're going to hear.
[01:48:25] 61% say that. And again, that includes a third of Republicans. Well, and it's numbers like these
[01:48:29] Steve that are applying pressure to President Trump to bring this war to an end. Yeah. I mean,
[01:48:33] I mean, it's very clear what you're seeing here
[01:48:36] in terms of that number.
[01:48:37] That's internationally what folks are thinking of.
[01:48:39] We mentioned the cost of living here.
[01:48:41] We say, what is driving, what matters most to you
[01:48:43] when it comes to economic matters?
[01:48:45] And again, no surprise here, but it's inflation,
[01:48:48] it's the cost of health care, the clear majority,
[01:48:50] one of those two things right there.
[01:48:52] Also though, now more recently, the cost of gasoline,
[01:48:56] what they're paying at the pump here,
[01:48:57] add these two numbers together very similar.
[01:48:59] Two-thirds, 65% say that the cost of gasoline is a serious in some way problem for them
[01:49:07] and for their families right now.
[01:49:09] And then I think there's an interesting question here, a broad question again, this connects
[01:49:12] with the Middle East, this connects with politics in D.C. this week.
[01:49:15] It's an ongoing question here.
[01:49:16] We asked the basic one, who do you sympathize more with, the Israelis or the Palestinians?
[01:49:21] The country is dead even, 50-50.
[01:49:23] Well, this is fascinating, but historically speaking, Steve, support for Israel has actually
[01:49:29] been higher. Yeah, this is now much more even than it used to be. And there are two particular
[01:49:33] drivers of this. I think it's very interesting. One of them is partisan Republicans overwhelmingly
[01:49:38] on the Israeli side. Democrats, this is the big shift now overwhelmingly three to one on
[01:49:44] the Palestinian side. And then the second piece of it, it's generational. It's age. Gen Z that
[01:49:50] rising generation. Look at this across party there. Three quarters of Gen Z say they sympathize
[01:49:57] more with the Palestinians than the Israelis. That's a massive sea change.
[01:50:00] It certainly is. It'll be fascinating to see how that plays out in the midterm.
[01:50:04] Steve Kronacki, thank you so much. We thank you for watching and remember
[01:50:08] stay updated on breaking news and top stories on the NBC News app or watch
[01:50:12] live on our YouTube channel. We are back with some breaking news.
[01:50:16] This thanks to the president having posted on Truth Social that there was some
[01:50:20] activity relative to the U.S. blockade there in the street of Hormuz.
[01:50:24] Apparently, a US Navy ship has commandeered an Iranian ship.
[01:50:30] Akhila, what do you know about this?
[01:50:34] Behind Trump's public bravado on the war, he grapples with his own fears.
[01:50:38] Philip Lemoine says this article confirms pretty much everything
[01:50:41] the Panikans have been saying about the wars at the beginning.
[01:50:43] It's not 40 chests.
[01:50:44] Trump just thought Iran would capitulate immediately.
[01:50:47] And now he doesn't know how to get out of this mess.
[01:50:50] So here's a couple of things that we got to talk about before we get to the
[01:50:53] the ship, okay? The Iranian ship that America is engaging in piracy over, okay? Privateers,
[01:51:04] baby, we're back. Number one, the Strait of Hormuz was supposed to be open at this point,
[01:51:17] And Donald Trump clearly, wait, what is this?
[01:51:23] Okay, never mind, actually, breaking news, we're gonna go back to, we are gonna go back
[01:51:30] to the Abdul El Sayed situation happening at the MDP convention.
[01:51:35] We've seen a pretty animated, supportive response to Abdul El Sayed here at the MDP convention
[01:51:40] today, chance of Abdul Abdul breaking out after his competitor Mallory McMorrow gives
[01:51:43] speech than the first standing ovation of the day when Elsa had introed for his own remarks. Oh my God.
[01:51:59] And Hailey Stevens was booed.
[01:52:04] Some very audible and prolonged booing for US representative Hailey Stevens,
[01:52:08] who is running for US Senate at the Michigan Democratic Party Commencement.
[01:52:11] Wait, maybe I was wrong. Does the MDP actually have the motion now? Is the MDP on our side?
[01:52:19] Oh, my God. That would be remarkable.
[01:52:23] Thank you. Thank you, my friends, I'm standing up here. Michigan Democrats, I'm standing up
[01:52:33] He should have brought me to the MDP, Michigan Democratic Party.
[01:52:45] That would have bricked every Republican.
[01:52:48] I should have, I should have, I would have spoken to the Michigan Democratic Party.
[01:52:54] I bet the grandmas would have loved me too.
[01:52:58] I bet the grandmas would have loved my ass.
[01:53:02] That's the funniest thing that these people try to create a narrative to try to make it
[01:53:08] seem like all of these older people that are in the ranks of the party, they despise the
[01:53:17] rabble-rousers.
[01:53:19] That's not the case at all.
[01:53:27] These years they would believe you too.
[01:53:29] buddy, you have not left your crevice if you think that the barbers and the debras are
[01:53:35] not infinitely closer to our worldview than the worldview demonstrated by MSNOW and CNN.
[01:53:46] Okay?
[01:53:47] I'm telling you right now, dude, dude, people think, people think that the arguments that
[01:53:56] I present, albeit rude sometimes and crass and blunt, are not appealing for Mimas. It
[01:54:04] is appealing for the Mimas. Okay, they do like it. They want more. The Mimas are apps
[01:54:16] So fucking Lutely demanding more from their from their representatives. I
[01:54:25] Get more booze in this fucking chat than I do when I go to like a no-keens protest or whatever
[01:54:33] Bro you live in LA anywhere between the coast is not like that all my fucking God
[01:54:39] brother
[01:54:40] We're talking about Michigan. Okay?
[01:54:43] Okay. We are talking about Michigan State. I went to Michigan State. I saw the people.
[01:54:50] You're out of your fucking mind. I don't know why people have to constantly, but you know
[01:54:57] where this comes from? I don't know where you live, chatter, but more often than not, this
[01:55:03] is someone who is terrified of the countryside, which Michigan is not even a part of. Okay.
[01:55:11] You are not seeing the changes that are happening within the electorate.
[01:55:16] You are not seeing it.
[01:55:18] More often than not, these are people that live in like Connecticut, or people that live
[01:55:22] in New York, who just have this like, oh, they're all dumb fucking Hicks attitude about people
[01:55:27] that live in the heartland, okay?
[01:55:33] I live in Missouri.
[01:55:34] Okay.
[01:55:35] If you're comparing fucking Missouri to Michigan, you're also delusional in a different way.
[01:55:41] even in fucking places like Missouri. Do you think people fuck with Israel? No. Go and
[01:55:58] talk to your fucking neighbors, man. Jesus Christ and not just neighbors in your blue
[01:56:03] area either I literally do is above is all Bible thumpers here okay yeah I was
[01:56:13] in Michigan okay this is how they treated me in Michigan
[01:56:31] It's so funny, dude
[01:56:43] I'm from Missouri and they're all hateful, but they don't do with Israel, what do you mean? Oh, they don't fuck with Israel
[01:56:49] Is that what you're saying?
[01:56:52] The point is first of all the point is you're not gonna always win every single person all the goddamn time
[01:56:58] But there are certain issues that you can absolutely win people on okay Israel is one of them
[01:57:08] It's so fucking annoying it's stupid for chat is to say this shit
[01:57:10] We watched the change live we can see the ages of people walking up to you. They're denying reality right in front of their eyes
[01:57:16] I know I
[01:57:17] Know it's so it's so silly. It's so silly
[01:57:22] Really, all you're doing with that kind of fear-led response is caving to the centrist
[01:57:30] Democrat position, okay?
[01:57:34] That's all you're doing.
[01:57:35] I'm at the Michigan Democratic Party Convention in Detroit, and I will say it is objectively
[01:57:38] running away with this race.
[01:57:40] Positions like abolishized Medicare for all, no APAC money, no more wars has got this crowd
[01:57:44] on fire.
[01:57:45] have woken up. And it's not just people who know who I am and like me, like the Mimas,
[01:58:01] make no mistake, I'm not saying that like all the Mimas, all the grandmas, they know
[01:58:06] who I am, they watch the two streams and they like what I have to say, okay? That's not
[01:58:11] what I'm saying at all. I'm saying they have arrived at that position on their own, okay?
[01:58:17] They have arrived at that position on their own. And a lot of you are refusing to reckon
[01:58:21] with that because in your mind, you have developed an attitude of the electorate, especially
[01:58:27] on the Democratic Party side that's just like dumb and not animated at all and not agitated
[01:58:32] about the way things are going and can't actually chart a better path forward for themselves.
[01:58:37] wrong, okay? As contradictions worsen, and as the Democratic Party is seen as feckless,
[01:58:45] and we have plenty of evidence in the polls to show that Democrats themselves are experiencing
[01:58:51] discontent with the party itself, you are refusing to see the reality that is unfolding
[01:58:57] in front of our eyes, okay? This is not about people coming into this chat and becoming
[01:59:04] like lifelong Twitch viewers or whatever the fuck, okay? It's not about that at all.
[01:59:11] This is a real anger that lifelong Democrats feel towards their party because they are
[01:59:18] not representing the interests of the masses on the issue of Israel, on the issue of Medicare
[01:59:24] for all, on the issue of not being a real opposition party to the Republicans. These
[01:59:31] These are on the issue of ice, abolition of ice.
[01:59:36] Democrats are frustrated, they want more.
[01:59:39] And what's actually great for people like myself, people like ourselves, is that there
[01:59:45] is no more gatekeeping that takes place when it comes to the places where people congregate
[01:59:53] in the digital environment.
[01:59:55] They don't just get their information for MS now.
[01:59:57] They don't just get their information from New York Times.
[01:59:59] They get their information from people like myself.
[02:00:01] They get their information from Midas Touch.
[02:00:03] They get their information from social media.
[02:00:09] So now there are people who are responsive to their needs.
[02:00:13] There are people like myself and many others
[02:00:16] who are championing their causes.
[02:00:18] And therefore they feel more emboldened.
[02:00:22] They don't just get bullied into submission
[02:00:24] by corporate media into just taking
[02:00:27] into only voting for businesses, usual politics, and do nothing Democrats. Okay.
[02:00:41] This is the best beard situation. Power stash with five o'clock shadow. Thank you, chatter.
[02:00:46] Thank you for locking in. Like, look at this. This is the Michigan Democratic Party. The
[02:00:49] room has like, what, 7,000 people? Someone was saying like, this is a 7,000 person attended
[02:00:54] event. And these are not the Hassanabi heads. Okay. These are not the activist wing and
[02:01:01] the party. These are people who are 60 years old, 70 years old, and they're booing Haley
[02:01:09] Stevens, because she's a pro-APAC candidate.
[02:01:34] That's crazy.
[02:01:35] Like, if I'm Unite here, I'm taking that endorsement back.
[02:01:38] You know what I mean? Getting booed by some of the most active party loyalists, you know,
[02:01:44] this is not a hostile environment. This is supposed to be the most positive environment
[02:01:48] for Haley Stevens, right? Establishment candidate backed by Chuck Schumer, like, and she, and
[02:01:55] they're getting booed. They're getting booed by the most active, the most prime base, a
[02:02:02] a base that has never demanded more, a base that normally hears Chuck Schumer, the leader
[02:02:10] in the Senate, say, this is my candidate, and they go, oh, thank God, this is going
[02:02:15] to be the moderate wing of the party, this is going to be the real electability candidate.
[02:02:18] And they're sitting there and fucking booing her, and there are still chatters in my chat
[02:02:24] thinking that things have not changed
[02:02:33] the conversation has dramatically shifted in our direction
[02:02:37] okay people no longer believe
[02:02:40] in the electability argument presented by
[02:02:43] corporate media
[02:02:45] they don't believe that anymore they no longer believe the electability
[02:02:48] argument
[02:02:49] that dictates the candidates shift their positions to the right in order to win
[02:02:52] the largest
[02:02:54] you know, group of voters or whatever, this, this electability argument, this false framing
[02:02:59] that is represented by centrist, the centrist wing of the party, okay?
[02:03:05] They don't believe it.
[02:03:06] They want more and they should want more.
[02:03:09] They believe, understandably, that electability also comes from taking popular positions,
[02:03:17] even if it's unpopular amongst the media class and the political class.
[02:03:22] they want it
[02:03:26] is opposed or on universe right now
[02:03:29] and it's sad that many of you still demonstrate that fear for no reason
[02:03:40] i think now is gonna be doubtful there's a tweet you pointed out there's a
[02:03:43] either haley or malish drop out in our haley voters might go to mallory
[02:03:46] she seems like the normal on the den voters i'm worried again
[02:03:49] again
[02:03:52] This is fear guiding your advocacy.
[02:03:57] You don't have to be fearful anymore, okay?
[02:04:01] It's a totally different environment.
[02:04:02] I don't know why there are still people
[02:04:05] even in this community that wanna concede ahead of time.
[02:04:09] Why would you let fear rule you, man?
[02:04:11] What the fuck's wrong with you?
[02:04:14] My dad will run here in the beautiful city of Detroit.
[02:04:19] This is why we say we have to fight against the black pill chatters, dooming mindsets,
[02:04:24] destroy progress.
[02:04:25] I know, I know, I know, it's so crazy.
[02:04:29] And there is, I mean, we're watching something that is unbelievable happening in front of
[02:04:36] our eyes.
[02:04:37] 65-year-old Michigan Democratic Party, like, die hard, blew no matter who voters, booed
[02:04:46] the fucking establishment pick. And there are still chatters who are exhibiting
[02:04:51] doomerism saying, no, there's a Goldilocks candidate. Oh, no, there's a
[02:04:56] warrenite in this race and she's going to sweep away all the votes. Yeah, with
[02:05:01] that attitude, you might as well fucking go vote for her. You might as well go
[02:05:04] fucking door knock for her then. The fuck's wrong with you.
[02:05:08] The momentum is on our side. It is up to us to show the distinction between someone who
[02:05:20] is trying to position themselves, not because they held true beliefs, not because they have
[02:05:27] a moral compass, but because they think this is the most electable position that they can
[02:05:31] arrive at. Okay? You do talk about viability a lot. Yeah. And guess what? Viability is
[02:05:39] on the side of the leftmost position. If that wasn't the case, then Mallory McMorrow would
[02:05:44] also demonstrate exactly the same politics of Hailey Stevens. There is a reason why
[02:05:52] she's literally trying to copy up those positions
[02:05:55] and like trying to moderate them
[02:05:59] hello
[02:06:01] my argument is
[02:06:03] electoral viability is on the side of the left flank candidates
[02:06:07] i could say the same to you about a third party on my god just fucking eat up
[02:06:12] eat a week long ban okay eat a week long ban and just never talk again
[02:06:16] okay
[02:06:19] Brother, you live in delusion. I live in the real world, okay? Stop!
[02:06:25] Stop!
[02:06:27] Jesus fucking Christ, stop!
[02:06:37] Unfuckin' believable, man! Unfuckin' believable! Shut the fuck up!
[02:06:42] Fighting for ballot access in every fucking race is an unbelievable burden
[02:06:50] that you will not be able to fucking get across. If Zoran was running third party
[02:06:55] he would not be the current mayor of New York. Okay? He wouldn't. You know who would
[02:07:00] be the mayor of New York? Brad fucking Lander.
[02:07:04] Shut the fuck up!
[02:07:12] In spite of the appetite for more from the base, Democrats are already trying to treat
[02:07:22] left flank candidates like third party candidates out here, and you're over here making the
[02:07:26] argument for them.
[02:07:27] That is exactly what I did for Michigan when I served as Chief of Staff on the U.S. Auto
[02:07:47] you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:08:07] Michigan Senator Mallard McMurray, who's running for
[02:08:09] Michigan's Open U.S. Senate seat just finished just finished
[02:08:11] speaking and immediately chance of Abdul Abdul breakout. This
[02:08:15] of response from the crowd when Abdul Al-Said, also a Democratic U.S. Senate candidate, took
[02:08:19] stand.
[02:08:20] Again, look at that crowd, man. That's not a crowd of Hassanabi heads, okay? Maybe future
[02:08:37] Hassanabi heads, but not current Hassanabi heads.
[02:08:40] Demshrouded from Michigan has a good tweet for the doomers. These are centrist slash
[02:08:48] moderate positions in the Democratic party. And anyone saying different is deeply misunderstanding
[02:08:53] the moment. I'm at the Michigan Democratic Party Convention in Detroit and I'll say
[02:08:56] this objectively running away with this race.
[02:08:58] Positions like abolishized Medicare for all, no APAC money and no more wars has got this
[02:09:02] crowd on fire, the people have woken up.
[02:09:05] Strong majorities, if not super majorities, support Medicare for All, believe we should
[02:09:08] abolish ICE, hate APEC, and want an end to endless wars.
[02:09:12] And independence are with us, and the message is so compelling that we are able to drive
[02:09:16] contrast and persuade more efficiently than we have ever been able to in ages lock in.
[02:09:27] I see a huge difference on social media.
[02:09:29] normies are posting anti-establishment demposts and even pro worker and borderline comments
[02:09:33] talking boys start realizing it. There's definitely been a shift. Yeah, the real shift is happening,
[02:09:43] but the unfortunate reality is that a lot of people treat politics either as team sport.
[02:09:52] Those are the centrists, or hipster ass gate kept ideologies, and those are the fucking
[02:10:00] hammer and sickle leftists on Twitter.
[02:10:02] They get mad when the barbers and debbers are on their side.
[02:10:06] They think, oh my God, I must be doing something wrong if all of these like normie Democrats
[02:10:13] vote blue no matter who democrats
[02:10:15] are actually on board with this message
[02:10:22] it's so weird
[02:10:23] some of you motherfuckers are lifestyles okay
[02:10:27] you think
[02:10:28] mass politics
[02:10:30] doesn't actually mean
[02:10:32] the masses are on your side
[02:10:35] okay
[02:10:36] you gotta in many instances go where the masses are and communicate with them
[02:10:39] with the language that they understand being repulsive
[02:10:42] doesn't make your position more moral.
[02:10:46] Having broad popularity doesn't make your position less just.
[02:10:53] It's so strange. I see both of these things and it's very frustrating. Okay.
[02:10:58] It's good to have the masses on your fucking side.
[02:11:09] Bro, you said you were gonna punch left.
[02:11:11] I mean, sometimes I have to whip the fucking crowd a little bit.
[02:11:28] Some people literally treat this as like a game of a game of being there before everybody else, where they're like, well, I was there before everybody else was.
[02:11:37] And now I feel like it's just fake.
[02:11:40] Anyway.
[02:11:41] This is supposed to be
[02:12:09] This is supposed to be about waking up the revolutionary potential of the masses, okay?
[02:12:17] The masses, not just you and your fucking reading group. When you see people exhibit this anger,
[02:12:26] this frustration, understand that that is productive for us, okay? Move that anger and
[02:12:33] frustration that many people in the base of the party are experiencing in a more productive
[02:12:40] direction, help them understand who is responsible.
[02:12:47] This is how you instill class consciousness in people.
[02:12:50] They already have that anger.
[02:12:52] It's up to us to harness that anger and frustration and redirect that animosity towards those
[02:12:59] who actually do control the levers of power in this country and around the world.
[02:13:06] Republicans do this very well, okay?
[02:13:09] They take that anger and then they redirect it at vulnerable populations.
[02:13:13] They redirect it at trans people.
[02:13:15] They redirect it at undocumented migrants.
[02:13:17] They redirect it at feminism.
[02:13:20] Some of you see that anger, okay?
[02:13:23] or many of you don't even recognize it, in my opinion.
[02:13:30] Well, some of you see that anger and frustration and go,
[02:13:32] it's not enough.
[02:13:36] It's so frustrating, man.
[02:13:41] Being a part of a popular movement is not a bad thing.
[02:13:46] It's a good thing, that's the whole point.
[02:13:49] Some of you don't know,
[02:13:51] some of you don't know how to handle that with grace.
[02:13:53] I'll be real.
[02:13:54] Some of you also think it's immoral.
[02:14:00] If the masses are on our side,
[02:14:01] that must mean that these are,
[02:14:03] that must mean I have to reconsider my positions.
[02:14:08] We're in a very unique place in American politics
[02:14:12] by my estimation, okay?
[02:14:17] A very unique place.
[02:14:19] It's very productive,
[02:14:21] But it's only as productive as we make it. If we take advantage of this, and we move
[02:14:31] the party in a much better direction, then you normalize certain positions. It takes
[02:14:39] time you normalize certain positions, and then people can demand more.
[02:14:47] Elzade is speaking to a sea of supporters now, his campaign brought out the most supporters
[02:14:58] of any of his Democratic Senate opponents.
[02:15:01] i've seen more people wearing pins and shirts for mallard and more than for
[02:15:03] hailey stevens
[02:15:06] we get sick
[02:15:09] how much help
[02:15:12] you know
[02:15:21] is left a keeping always sounds like american individualism infecting left
[02:15:24] now it's like a british lifestyles also behave like this it's a it's a
[02:15:30] It is a classic issue with the left.
[02:15:34] There are always going to be lifestyles
[02:15:36] who look at mass politics with like disdain
[02:15:42] or sometimes even disgust where they think,
[02:15:45] oh, like now that there's all these people
[02:15:48] that I consider to be not well read enough
[02:15:50] on my side seemingly,
[02:15:52] that means I haven't gone far enough.
[02:15:54] That means I'm wrong.
[02:15:58] It's not a manure subscriber,
[02:15:59] This is the realest shit I've seen any leftist talk about in person or online
[02:16:02] There's a real problem on the level where folks want to recreate exclusivity of other political groups. Yeah, it's like a lead is bullshit
[02:16:16] People treat politics like it's a fucking game it's the same exact
[02:16:22] manifestation of
[02:16:24] the the annoying position that a
[02:16:27] A lot of centrist hold which is it's team sports, right? It's not about making material change
[02:16:33] It's just my team winning over the other side's team winning it fucking it doesn't make any sense
[02:16:39] And then you have people who treat it like it's a
[02:16:44] non-sensical hipster bullshit
[02:16:48] Anyway
[02:16:53] I mean this gives me a lot of hope though
[02:16:55] This gives me a lot of hope we got I mean coming into this I thought that
[02:17:04] McMoroll probably sweep the the the blue dogs the vote blue no matter whoers
[02:17:11] right but perhaps they too want something more
[02:17:20] that's a good thing
[02:17:25] politics as a game is what conservatives do this is just about winning and losing is about
[02:17:36] what's right and justice and equity yeah but you can't arrive at justice and equity if
[02:17:40] you don't seize any power whatsoever let's be real so when there's an opportunity to
[02:17:44] fucking seize power and one of the two major parties and move one of the two major parties
[02:17:50] in the in the better direction. Like how are you gonna how are you gonna sit there and just like
[02:17:59] brush that aside?
[02:18:06] For far too long, something that I have observed amongst the most locked-in Democratic electorate
[02:18:24] is this attitude that you're supposed to vote like a consultant.
[02:18:30] For far too long, Democrats themselves have said, the classic adage, I like this person,
[02:18:39] but can they win in the general, okay?
[02:18:46] What the fuck do you mean?
[02:18:47] You're not a pundit, you're not a consultant, you're a voter.
[02:18:52] You're supposed to vote for who you like the most, not who you think other people will
[02:18:58] like the most. We have been conditioned into talking ourselves out of voting for who we
[02:19:07] want, for policies that we want, for far too long. This is exactly what happened with Bernie
[02:19:14] 2016 and also in 2020 as well. No more! No more!
[02:19:33] Does it ever feel demoralizing seeing non-American leftists trying to disparage
[02:19:36] American leftists online? I know it's not really that deep. I don't really care.
[02:19:38] This is also an international movement as well, and there are plenty who are sound, and plenty who
[02:19:47] understand the minutiae and the hurdles that the American left is presented with, with regular
[02:19:54] frequency. Ultimately, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I'm just gonna read to you. Anyway, let's get to
[02:20:04] to, now that we went through this, then I'll give you more updates throughout the day with
[02:20:10] the Michigan Democratic Party, okay? But it does matter. What is this? It's mattering.
[02:20:25] Who do you like? Who do you love the most? Who are you not? Who you aren't? Or what?
[02:20:34] Donald Trump, let's get the situation monitoring for a little bit, not monitoring the situation
[02:20:46] of the Michigan Democratic Party, but monitoring the situation in the Strait of Hormuz, the
[02:20:52] most important 21-mile Strait that the entire world is locked in on, okay?
[02:21:01] Now, there was supposed to be a ceasefire that was being worked on.
[02:21:07] JD Vance went to Islamabad with the American Coalition, and they came back out of that
[02:21:14] with some disagreements and some points of agreement.
[02:21:22] And it was supposed to be, it was supposed to be a move in the right direction that the
[02:21:33] Shreddha Hormuz would be open for business again with some tolling restrictions that
[02:21:39] Iran had implemented, and the American blockade was supposed to end.
[02:21:43] But the problem is, and I see this more often than not by a lot of analysts that have identified
[02:21:50] the problem with Trump's side on this issue, is that Trump automatically considers any
[02:21:56] negotiation to be a point of weakness for the opposition.
[02:22:00] Trump has been begging for a negotiation to take place since like week two of Operation
[02:22:06] Epstein's Fury.
[02:22:07] But the very fact that Iran said yes to that negotiation in Islamabad, Trump misunderstood
[02:22:14] as weakness.
[02:22:17] Although Iran obviously still holds the cards because of the situation on the ground, Donald
[02:22:25] Trump looked at Iran's willingness to come to the fucking ceasefire negotiations table
[02:22:33] as a point of weakness and tried to tweet out maximalist demands, which frustrated Iran
[02:22:41] deeply.
[02:22:42] And not only did he tweet out maximalist demands, demands that were not discussed on
[02:22:47] the bargaining table in the negotiations process. But also, he continued to implement this blockade
[02:22:56] outside of the Iranian toll system, rendering the negotiations fruitless.
[02:23:07] This was obviously very frustrating for the Iranian side who thought that they had a fucking deal.
[02:23:17] And since then, some new updates have taken place.
[02:23:27] One of the updates is that, seemingly, the American Navy has taken an Iranian flag cargo
[02:23:36] ship into custody after it tried to go through the American blockade, okay?
[02:23:43] So there is a, there is a reality taking shape in the Shred of Hormuz.
[02:23:53] And then there's a reality in Trump's mind, which is chaotic, and not exactly close to
[02:23:58] what the realities on the ground are.
[02:24:02] But this is the latest update.
[02:24:05] Iran warns of significantly greater cost of war resumes from drop site news.
[02:24:10] senior Iranian official with direct access to Tehran's internal deliberations told Dropsite
[02:24:14] that if Trump resumes bombing Iran will cut off all diplomatic channels and focus entirely on
[02:24:18] fighting and that conditions for any future deal will be far harder. He also told Dropsite our
[02:24:24] assessment is that Trump effectively lacks both a coherent plan and the capacity to secure even a
[02:24:29] temporary agreement. His decision making appears to be grounded in Israeli political and security
[02:24:33] assessments conveyed to him on a daily basis. There hasn't been a real, there hasn't been
[02:24:38] any real progress, both sides are just signaling behind the scenes that they're open to reaching
[02:24:42] an agreement.
[02:24:43] The Islamabad negotiations provide President Trump with an appropriate opportunity to exit
[02:24:47] the war.
[02:24:48] Should he nevertheless choose to continue the conflict, Iran will, for a prolonged period,
[02:24:54] suspend diplomatic channels and will seek, within the context of the conflict, to impose
[02:24:58] significantly greater costs on United States interests.
[02:25:02] The official also specified that Iran is offering, on enrichment, a voluntary suspension for less
[02:25:07] than five years, and offered that originated in Geneva before the war, put forward solely
[02:25:12] to demonstrate goodwill and the necessary degree of flexibility.
[02:25:17] On the Iran, on the Iran uranium stockpile, Iran rejected transferring its highly enriched
[02:25:22] uranium to the U.S., but is offering to dilute it with a transparent mechanism to fully verify
[02:25:27] the process.
[02:25:28] On the broader nuclear framework, low-level enrichment for peaceful purposes centered
[02:25:35] on medical research and energy applications with full transparency.
[02:25:40] On the overall deal, Iran wants a comprehensive agreement that includes firm non-aggression
[02:25:46] guarantees from both the U.S. and Israel, a demand the official acknowledged seems nearly
[02:25:50] impossible to guarantee, plus sanctions relief and a long-term framework.
[02:25:57] The official stressed these are essentially the same positions Iran had on the table in
[02:26:01] Geneva in February before the war started, suggesting that the war achieved nothing for
[02:26:06] Washington that wasn't already available diplomatically.
[02:26:09] Iran, also in parallel, is also in parallel talks with friendly nations, including nuclear
[02:26:14] powers aimed at establishing a balance of power with the United States and Israel, the
[02:26:17] official said.
[02:26:18] The reference to nuclear powers points towards Russia and China, both of which have opposed
[02:26:22] the U.S.-Israeli War and voted against Washington's UN Security Council resolution on the conflict.
[02:26:31] So that's where Iran is at right now.
[02:26:34] They are warning that they are ready to go back to a militant posture against the United
[02:26:39] States of America if America strikes first.
[02:26:48] If you recall, this wasn't exactly a favorable posture for America and its allies in the
[02:26:54] region, which is precisely the reason why America was begging for a negotiations process
[02:27:00] to take place in Islamabad after pretty much week two.
[02:27:05] So what's insane about the situation is Trump, on the one hand, recognizes the need for a
[02:27:11] diplomatic end to this war.
[02:27:14] But on the other hand, anytime the Iranian side agrees to a diplomatic end to this war,
[02:27:22] Trump perceives that as fucking weakness.
[02:27:27] You cannot keep violating the international law, says Reza Amiri Mohaddam, the ambassador
[02:27:34] of the Islamic Republic of Iran to Pakistan.
[02:27:37] One of the people who played a role in setting up these talks, he says, you cannot keep violating
[02:27:44] the international law, double down on your blockade, threaten Iran with further war crimes,
[02:27:47] insist on unreasonable demands, pace out with rhetoric and pretend to be pursuing diplomacy.
[02:27:53] As long as the naval blockade remains, fault lines remain.
[02:28:03] Donald Trump has now taken more aggressive military action against Iran.
[02:28:11] Let's take a look.
[02:28:12] Some breaking news, thanks to the president having posted on TruthSocial that there was
[02:28:15] some activity relative to the US blockade there in the Strait of Hormuz.
[02:28:21] a U.S. Navy ship has commandeered an Iranian ship.
[02:28:26] Kayla, what do you know about this?
[02:28:28] Yeah, Alex, I'm just gonna read to you
[02:28:30] some of the presidents through social.
[02:28:31] He says, today an Iranian flag cargo ship named Tussaka
[02:28:36] nearly 900 feet long and weighing almost as much
[02:28:40] as an aircraft carrier tried to get past
[02:28:43] our naval blockade and it did not go well for them.
[02:28:46] He says the U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer
[02:28:50] actually intercepted that shift in the Gulf of Oman and gave them a warfare
[02:28:54] warning to stop. He goes on to say the Iranian crew refused to listen, so our
[02:29:00] Navy ship stopped them right in their tracks by blowing a hole in their engine
[02:29:04] room. Right now U.S. Marines have custody of the vessel, he says, and the ship is
[02:29:10] under U.S. Treasury sanctions. He's claiming because of their prior history
[02:29:15] of illegal activity and he says we have full custody of the ship. And I want to
[02:29:20] say that the US military has largely talked about some of these tactics that
[02:29:25] they intend to either board ships or fire at them. That seems to have been the case
[02:29:30] here with this ship, Toastaca. But there have been some reports that some vessels
[02:29:35] linked to Iran have been able to get past this blockade undetected. We have not
[02:29:41] independently verified those reports, but President Trump certainly
[02:29:45] touting here the continuation of this blockade which has caused such tension
[02:29:49] with Iran after they sought to reopen the strait but President Trump promised to
[02:29:54] keep this blockade going. Alex? And in fact to your point as you've read the
[02:29:58] ship is now in custody of US Marines after the US blew a hole in the engine
[02:30:02] room. Okay we will see as more comes from this. Thank you so much for
[02:30:06] updating us from the White House and Kayla Gardner.
[02:30:15] Since then, Trump has also threatened to blow up the entire country and is posturing as though
[02:30:25] he doesn't want any negotiations whatsoever. Now, what's interesting about this is that
[02:30:28] that is the Israeli position. But what's also doubly interesting about that is that whenever
[02:30:33] Trump talks about blowing up Iran and ending Iranian civilization, well, oftentimes that
[02:30:40] That means he really wants to do a negotiation, right?
[02:30:43] That's just like the Trumpian method.
[02:30:46] The Trump method is saying the most unhinged thing possible and then behind closed doors
[02:30:53] try to come to the table with a negotiations process.
[02:30:58] I mean, that's literally what has happened every single time.
[02:31:01] The other Trump method, of course, is also to do negotiations and then engage in the
[02:31:05] act of perfidy.
[02:31:07] Iran's IRNA says, Iran rejected taking part in the second round of the talks of the US.
[02:31:12] Iran stated that its absence from the second round of talks stems from what it's called
[02:31:18] Washington's excessive demands, unrealistic expectations, constant shifts in stance, repeated
[02:31:23] contradictions, and ongoing naval blockade, which it considers a breach of the ceasefire.
[02:31:34] This again stems from the fact that Donald Trump is inconsistent.
[02:31:44] And also doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever, which is, I guess, a part of his method here,
[02:31:51] but it's frustrating when it's not just his statements that don't make any sense, but
[02:31:56] it's his actions that also don't make any sense.
[02:32:00] alone would not sully this deal. Okay? What is actually harming the negotiations process
[02:32:12] is two things. One, Trump's willingness to obviously lean into whatever the fuck Benjamin
[02:32:16] Netanyahu's demands are, which is obviously to destroy this deal and then destroy Iran,
[02:32:22] get America to invade Iran militarily, boost on the ground military warfare. But the other
[02:32:26] problem here is also, Trump is still abiding by the ridiculous condition that he set forward,
[02:32:35] and not scaling back on that, which includes the double block that they are trying to engage in.
[02:32:44] SENTCOM publishes video of them firing the guided missile destroyer USS Spruin's 5 inch
[02:32:53] MK45 gun into Tuska's engine room after it failed to comply with repeated warnings over
[02:32:59] a 6 hour period.
[02:33:01] Motor Veseltoska, Motor Veseltoska, vacate your engine room, vacate your engine room,
[02:33:11] We're prepared to subject you to the signaling fire.
[02:33:14] OK.
[02:33:15] OK.
[02:33:16] OK.
[02:33:17] We can't go further.
[02:33:19] OK.
[02:33:20] OK.
[02:33:21] OK.
[02:33:22] OK.
[02:33:23] OK.
[02:33:24] OK.
[02:33:25] OK.
[02:33:26] OK.
[02:33:27] OK.
[02:33:28] OK.
[02:33:29] OK.
[02:33:30] OK.
[02:33:31] OK.
[02:33:32] OK.
[02:33:33] I like that they were acting like they were frustrated when Iran was doing this shit.
[02:33:52] They were like, this is illegal.
[02:33:53] How dare Iran do stuff like this?
[02:33:55] And now they're doing the exact same shit.
[02:33:58] our terrorists and deserve everything that happens to them, says Jan 501 737 I like that
[02:34:12] we were just watching the Americans engage in the the same things that these guys will
[02:34:18] freak out when Muslims do, right?
[02:34:30] Breaking Iranian forces toward a U.S. attempt to attack Iranian commercial ship, Iranian
[02:34:33] state link media says, we just watched the video.
[02:34:38] Yes.
[02:34:40] So, U.S. Navy fires on Iranian cargo ship in the Gulf of Oman.
[02:34:46] competing accounts," says Dropsite. The U.S. and Iran are offering conflicting accounts of an
[02:34:51] incident Sunday involving an Iranian vessel in the Gulf of Oman as the ceasefire teeters on the
[02:34:55] edge of collapse. President Trump said the U.S.'s spruins intercepted the Iranian flight
[02:34:59] cargo ship Tuzka, nearly 900 feet long, after an attempt to breach the U.S. naval blockade.
[02:35:05] He said the Iranian crew refused orders to stop so that the Navy blew a hole in its engine room.
[02:35:09] U.S. Marines have taken custody of the vessel, Trump said. Adding to the Tuzka is under U.S.
[02:35:14] U.S. Treasury sanctions for prior illegal activity. Iran's Mayor News Agency reported
[02:35:19] it differently. IRGC Navy Rapid Reaction Forces responded the U.S. Forces opening fire on
[02:35:23] the Iranian commercial ship and said that American forces were forced to retreat and
[02:35:27] flee the area following the IRGC response. Iran did not name the commercial vessel.
[02:35:32] The incident, okay, this probably means that the American story is closer to the, you know,
[02:35:38] closer to the truth.
[02:35:42] The incident comes as two weeks ceasefire expires Tuesday, and a second round of talks
[02:35:47] remains on confirmed Iran has said it will not negotiate while the naval blockade remains
[02:35:51] in place.
[02:35:52] The U.S. has said the blockade will continue regardless.
[02:35:56] Yes, if America already has control over the boat, it's over.
[02:36:01] Then the Iranian side is not correct.
[02:36:08] But then again, they're just showing only video footage of us shooting at the vessel
[02:36:22] and and not of us maintaining control over the vessel.
[02:36:27] So who knows?
[02:36:36] And maybe the Iranians were talking about a separate vessel.
[02:36:43] So we have here, we'll look at, here's one we did earlier, Trump, and then we'll look
[02:36:49] at what the actual principal negotiators and their maximalist demands look like, Israel.
[02:36:56] And showcasing how it's turned a shipping lane into a marina.
[02:37:01] Iranian TV broadcasting tankers halted in the straits of Hormuz.
[02:37:05] radio traffic emerges of an Indian tanker attacked yesterday by Iranian forces.
[02:37:25] That action, causing Trump to repeat his previous threat to Iran to bow to his peace demands.
[02:37:32] They don't, the United States is going to knock out every single power plant and every
[02:37:36] single bridge in Iran.
[02:37:38] No more Mr. Nice Guy.
[02:37:40] An old threat of course, so far an empty one.
[02:37:43] It would also likely be a war crime of enormous proportions.
[02:37:48] A former Israeli military intelligence specialist on Iran says America doesn't begin to understand
[02:37:54] the country.
[02:37:55] Iran will not cave in and indeed is emerging ever stronger in all this.
[02:38:00] They cope with the two strongest air forces in the world and they manage to overcome.
[02:38:05] For them it was winning but not losing.
[02:38:07] They still have the capacity to launch missile and drones even today.
[02:38:10] They still hold the 440 kilos of 60 percent in the reach of any in the Taz and Isfahan.
[02:38:15] They still have the capacity to control the straits and actually control the artery of
[02:38:19] the international economy.
[02:38:20] So for them, yes, they suffered.
[02:38:21] They know they suffered.
[02:38:22] They're all stupid.
[02:38:23] But in terms of strategically, they have the upper hand.
[02:38:27] So, suits on for Vance Whitcoff and team, the US vice president leading another delegation
[02:38:32] to Pakistan tomorrow for talks.
[02:38:35] But who with?
[02:38:36] Iran saying tonight they won't go whilst Trump is blockading their shipping.
[02:38:43] Our policy is also step by step.
[02:38:46] Action.
[02:38:47] Commitment for commitment.
[02:38:48] They take one step, we take one step.
[02:38:52] It should not be the case that we fulfill our commitments while they do not."
[02:38:58] While at least both sides are still communicating behind the scenes, leaving their bosses to
[02:39:03] do the posture and threat thing that both do so well.
[02:39:08] It only used Israel's Prime Minister, looking friendless abroad, beleaguered at home.
[02:39:14] Tel Aviv last night and thousands outdemanding a full inquiry into the Hamas invasion of
[02:39:19] October 7.
[02:39:20] Netanyahu, the clear target in all that.
[02:39:24] Up north today, anger at Israel's leaders of a different sort, the border town Kiliat
[02:39:30] Shimona, in a shut-down protest at Netanyahu, bowing to Trump's order to stop attacking
[02:39:36] Lebanon close by.
[02:39:40] And over that border, caught as ever in it all, Lebanese families, slowly going home
[02:39:45] to the south.
[02:39:47] slowly after Israel bombed bridges and what will they find when they get home? A house
[02:39:53] or a pile of rubble? Yes, the Iranians then announced in the last
[02:39:59] hour they're not going to those talks. Fed up they say and indicate with the mixed messaging
[02:40:04] they see coming from the White House and President Trump. Well, when you look at it, President
[02:40:10] Trump has tried violent and abusive language to persuade the Iranians the deal didn't work.
[02:40:16] He's tried to compliment them, didn't work.
[02:40:17] He's tried to...
[02:40:20] Who fucking cares about October 7th?
[02:40:22] Buddy, those people that are demanding an investigation in October 7th are some of the
[02:40:31] most consequential voters in Israel right now.
[02:40:36] They're not demanding an investigation in October 7th because they're like, oh, Benjamin
[02:40:39] Anyow didn't go hard enough.
[02:40:41] demanding an investigation into the, uh, for example, the, the Hannibal doctrine that was
[02:40:46] implemented and what the security flaws look like. How much did the Benjamin Netanyahu
[02:40:51] cabinet know ahead of time before October seven took place and, and whether they allowed
[02:40:57] it to happen or not. Okay. That's not a bad thing at all. It's a good thing and there
[02:41:04] should be more demands. Some of you motherfuckers literally see a good thing happening and just
[02:41:13] immediately cast it aside. It's good. It's good that they're demanding that. And also
[02:41:21] the protesters are frustrated with the Neniao cabinet's actions in general. They're not
[02:41:29] demanding more militant action
[02:41:32] it's got what's really look like an out now genocide it didn't work he's tried
[02:41:37] to today to threaten
[02:41:38] what certainly appears in the minds of many to constitute
[02:41:41] a war crime if it happened it did not work
[02:41:44] then step back this isn't really primarily about iran's straight to
[02:41:48] form moves they search for a bomb it's about the palestinian
[02:41:51] question
[02:41:52] and on that's we've seen the israeli states
[02:41:54] with its american ally get involved in serious conflict
[02:41:59] In not one, not two, not three, but four regions.
[02:42:02] Five, if you include the West Bank.
[02:42:03] Why to destroy Hamas?
[02:42:05] They failed to destroy Hezbollah.
[02:42:07] They failed and to destroy the Iranian regime.
[02:42:10] They have failed.
[02:42:11] That regime in Tehran, yes, is violent
[02:42:14] and it is repressive.
[02:42:15] But tonight, with all that,
[02:42:17] you understand why they're perhaps thinking
[02:42:20] they've got quite a lot in the tank when it comes to.
[02:42:24] We're back with the Fox News Alert.
[02:42:26] Chief Foreign Correspondent Trinke's just speaking
[02:42:28] with President Trump and has the latest from Tel Aviv.
[02:42:31] Trey, what can you tell us?
[02:42:32] And what did the president have to say?
[02:42:35] Yeah, guys, good morning.
[02:42:36] I just spoke with President Trump for about 20 minutes.
[02:42:39] And he told me if Iran.
[02:42:42] Holy shit, Trey got 20 minutes with the president.
[02:42:44] That's crazy.
[02:42:46] That's actually wild, man.
[02:42:49] He normally gives, like, what, two minutes max?
[02:42:54] Here, this assessment is important to also
[02:42:58] Look at from Trita Parsey. Okay.
[02:43:04] Trita Parsey, speaking to several people involved in all sides, I believe I've gotten to the bottom
[02:43:08] of the story about Przeszkian's video message and how Trump blew up a golden opportunity to
[02:43:12] escalate the war. Here's what happened. Regional efforts at de-escalation in the war had convinced
[02:43:17] Iran to gradually adjust its regional retaliation conduct. In a first step, the Iranian president,
[02:43:22] as the head of the interim leadership council, announced that attacks on neighboring countries
[02:43:26] would cease as long as their territories wouldn't be used to attack Iran. This is why Pazeshkin
[02:43:32] issued that video statement, although he went further in a statement, but that's another matter.
[02:43:37] Um, oh, this is sorry. This is from March 7th. Um, hold on. Where's the other,
[02:43:46] where's the other video one second or not video? I clicked on the wrong link.
[02:43:52] think. This is what I was going to look at. He quote retweeted, Trita quote retweeted
[02:44:02] his own tweet. Okay. Here, this is what I was looking at. To understand how Trump is
[02:44:10] undermining his own diplomacy by quickly declaring victory and trying to humiliate Iran whenever
[02:44:14] Tehran takes a de-escalatory step, it is instructive to remember what happened when Iran and the
[02:44:19] GCC had negotiated new guardrails for the war.
[02:44:23] So the reason why I was looking at the other post is because it shows how Trump sees any
[02:44:33] kind of de-escalation from the Iranian side.
[02:44:37] Trump looks at Iran behaving as a sane regional actor and listening to the demands being made
[02:44:45] by the GCC, for example, as a sign of weakness. Okay? This is his calculation. Oh, they're
[02:44:54] retreating on this stuff. That means it's, they're retreating because they're afraid.
[02:44:58] They're not retreating because they are behaving like a sovereign regional actor, listening
[02:45:04] to the demands being made by their neighbors. Okay? But instead, as a nation in retreat,
[02:45:12] terrified of the prospect of the might of American weapons, destroying its infrastructure.
[02:45:19] In short, Iran and the GCC were in the process of agreeing to a deal that would see the end
[02:45:24] of Iranian attacks on the GCC as long as their territory ceased being used for attacks on
[02:45:28] Iran.
[02:45:29] Tehran would first message taking steps in this direction followed by GCC's reciprocity.
[02:45:35] But before the GCC got a chance to respond, Trump declared victory on true social, insulted
[02:45:39] humiliated Iran, and even issued further threats of complete destruction on top of that,
[02:45:46] U.S. and Israel also attacked water desalination plant at Qashem Island.
[02:45:51] Needless to say, this sabotaged the sensitive de-escalation talks and a promising opening was
[02:45:56] destroyed. Trump's need for the optics of victory, Trump's what should be a far more important goal
[02:46:03] advancing US interest by ending this war and reaching a longer term deal with Tehran.
[02:46:12] Okay. It appears that this same phenomenon occurred in the past few days when the Iranians
[02:46:18] in a very vague tweet declared that the Strait is open as a de-escalatory step in their terminology.
[02:46:24] It has never been closed, though Tehran is only determining who can pass and who cannot
[02:46:28] while charging tolls. Trump failed to reciprocate and instead could not resist the temptation
[02:46:34] to declare victory and insult the Iranians. What was designed to become the beginning
[02:46:40] of a mutual off-ramp was instead turned by Trump into an escalatory ladder,
[02:46:44] resulting in additional threats by him this morning to knock out every single power plant,
[02:46:48] every single bridge in Iran. Trump's lack of discipline and focus and his infantile prioritization
[02:46:54] of optics over reality are becoming a significant obstacle to him achieving his own goals,
[02:46:59] exiting the war and striking a strong deal with Tehran. This is not our the deal, this is the
[02:47:04] art of self-sabotage, says Tritta. The part that Tritta is not mentioning in my opinion
[02:47:11] is that this suits the ultimate desires of Israel as well.
[02:47:18] Okay, that is the real issue here. Trump gets to behave in this inconsistent manner, and
[02:47:33] he gets to behave victory, and he gets to just be more belligerent and escalate. While
[02:47:40] simultaneously people in the people in his orbit are actively reading the room and trying
[02:47:47] to de-escalate, Trump does this kind of thing because it suits Benjamin and Yahoo�s goals.
[02:47:56] Decisions David Klein says, �Decisions Israel made are quite clear directly the reason why
[02:48:01] people around the world are paying more for food and for fuel and everyone can see that
[02:48:04] and everyone�s mad about it. It�s going to have lasting effects.� He�s talking
[02:48:08] to the Deputy Digital Director of Bull Work Online who is complaining about the relationship
[02:48:17] between Israel and the Democrats and yada yada yada, right? To which Matthew Petty responds,
[02:48:23] this future was clear as day to me by 2019 or 2020, the US being physically incapable
[02:48:27] of saying no to Israeli ambitions meant that they were going to become everyone's problem
[02:48:31] at some point. And even the specific route Iran war was advertised quite loudly. The
[02:48:37] The United States of America is openly saying Israel is bringing us into this and we are
[02:48:42] waging this war for Israel and we're continuing to destabilize for Israel as the rest of the
[02:48:48] world experiences inflationary shocks, experiences, and energy crisis.
[02:48:56] What do you think this is going to do to American soft power and American influence around the
[02:49:02] globe, and what do you think this will do to the influence of Israel and the way
[02:49:07] that people perceive Israel around the world? That is a major problem that
[02:49:12] neither America nor Israel is invested in facing. Okay? This goes back to the
[02:49:21] same mentality. This goes back to the same frustrating reality that I have
[02:49:26] observed. 800 military bases turning into 800 separate military invasions.
[02:49:31] Okay?
[02:49:34] It's that simple, but let's take a look at what Trump's assessment is currently does not sign this deal
[02:49:40] The whole country is getting blown up
[02:49:42] It went on to say that bridges and power plants will be targeted if Iran does not sign this agreement
[02:49:48] The president telling me that US special envoys Jared Kushner and Steve Wittkopf are heading to Islamabad, Pakistan
[02:49:55] Pakistan for meetings on Tuesday, possibly into Wednesday, to try and get this agreement
[02:50:01] across the finish line.
[02:50:02] The President telling Fox News, this is a very simple deal, but this is the last chance
[02:50:07] for the Iranians.
[02:50:08] The President, very clear in our conversation that he is not making the same mistake that
[02:50:13] President Obama made, giving cash to the Iranians and allowing them to continue a nuclear program.
[02:50:19] The deal on the table is...
[02:50:21] It's literally, I mean, I don't have an issue with unfreezing Iranian assets and sanctions
[02:50:27] relief.
[02:50:28] I think that's a just thing to do.
[02:50:30] That's the moral thing to do.
[02:50:32] But from Trump's perspective, this is a far, far more beneficial deal for the Iranian side
[02:50:39] than Barack Obama ever entertained.
[02:50:43] Larger amounts of dollars are being discussed to the tune of $20 billion, right?
[02:50:49] which is a fraction of the hundred billion that we have frozen, but still a far larger
[02:50:54] percentage of the overall assets that were frozen by the United States of America than
[02:50:59] Barack Obama did. Okay. So, and, and Joe Biden as well, Barack Obama was what, 1.7 billion,
[02:51:07] Joe Biden, 6 billion. Trump is talking about $20 billion.
[02:51:13] You know, if you're going to call one cold, hard cash in ballots being shipped over to
[02:51:18] Iran while then is a much larger chunk of that cold hard green cash being shipped over
[02:51:25] in palace to Iran.
[02:51:27] To reopen the Strait of Hormuz to ensure that the Iranians do not have this highly enriched
[02:51:32] uranium that is buried deep underground after Operation Midnight Hammer last summer.
[02:51:37] And again the president telling Fox News that the entire country will be blown up, bridges
[02:51:42] and power plants will be targeted if the Iranians do not sign this agreement.
[02:51:48] This is a significant development because we are in this less than 72-hour window before
[02:51:53] the ceasefire between the United States and Iran expires.
[02:51:57] And the president has given the Iranians an opportunity for an off-ramp, an olive branch.
[02:52:02] He is extending to the Iranian regime to avoid this region going back into war.
[02:52:08] And the president said the United States military is prepared.
[02:52:11] He said the U.S. has massive amounts of ammunition, even better munitions than they had in the
[02:52:16] opening days of operation epic fury to use against the Iranian regime to target a variety
[02:52:21] of different positions across their country if they are not willing to make this good
[02:52:26] faith deal.
[02:52:27] How?
[02:52:28] And again, he tells Fox.
[02:52:29] How is that possible?
[02:52:30] Did they rebuild the arsenal?
[02:52:32] With what, you know, with what resources?
[02:52:36] With what runway?
[02:52:38] We know how long it takes.
[02:52:42] This is just, again, cope.
[02:52:44] news that his special envoys are headed to the Middle East, and they are going to try
[02:52:48] and get this deal across the finish line.
[02:52:51] But this isn't the hands of the Iranians if they are willing to make a good faith agreement.
[02:52:55] And if they are not, the president has indicated there will be significant strikes against
[02:52:59] the Iranian regime in response if this diplomatic effort does not succeed.
[02:53:04] Guys?
[02:53:05] Trey, in your conversation with the president, it hasn't been talked much about lately, but
[02:53:10] But there has been focus on Carg Island because of its strategic proximity to 90% of the crude
[02:53:17] oil goes through there.
[02:53:18] Did the president raise, I know he's talked to you about bridges and power plants, but
[02:53:22] what about the oil and fuel?
[02:53:24] It takes weeks to reload missile cruisers.
[02:53:26] I mean, we're not even talking about reloading the missile cruisers.
[02:53:29] We're talking about rebuilding the missile stockpile.
[02:53:33] That takes years at times, especially if we're talking about standoff munitions that take
[02:53:39] a long as time to make. We're talking about in certain instances, you know, with the current
[02:53:45] capabilities of US procurement, 12 per year for like the fads, right? And that is, you're
[02:53:57] not going to be able to make up for that, that diminished stockpile in a matter of one
[02:54:03] week. It's just not going to happen. Structure.
[02:54:07] The president talked about the Strait of Hormuz and these violations of the ceasefire that
[02:54:12] were conducted by the Iranians yesterday.
[02:54:14] President Trump telling me about how-
[02:54:15] Can you explain what unfrozen assets are?
[02:54:18] Sorry, I said already, but it was right as you got up.
[02:54:21] Yes.
[02:54:22] So Iran, like any other country, like an oil-rich country, sells oil and gas to other countries,
[02:54:29] right?
[02:54:30] Other countries that are under the control of US empire, countries like Korea, or even
[02:54:35] and certain instances like Qatar and many other places, right? So what America does after that
[02:54:42] shipment is cleared, after the money is supposed to exchange hands, is America will tell those
[02:54:48] other countries like Korea or Taiwan or many other places to freeze those assets. So that money
[02:54:53] never exchanges hands. That money is taken out of the bank accounts of South Korea, for example.
[02:55:00] And before that money makes its way to the Iranian bank accounts, it's frozen America is currently sitting on, you know, tens of billions, not a hundred billion dollars worth of money that was supposed to be sent to Iranian bank accounts.
[02:55:16] Okay.
[02:55:18] So when the American government says we're unfreezing these assets, what they're basically saying is they're no longer stopping.
[02:55:26] the transfer of these assets that they've currently frozen.
[02:55:40] They're using these small vessels to fire on ships in the Strait of Hormuz, but they're just using small ammunition.
[02:55:47] And despite the fact that they're not doing much damage, it's an indication that they are violating the ceasefire.
[02:55:53] And then the question is, technically, the money is Iranian money, okay?
[02:56:05] The money is supposed to be in the hands of the Iranian government.
[02:56:09] That's all this means.
[02:56:11] Just that America has illegally exercised its awesome power around the globe as the hegemon
[02:56:20] to stop this transaction from being completed.
[02:56:26] So it's not in the hands of South Korea.
[02:56:29] It's not in the hands of Iran.
[02:56:31] The money has not exchanged hands.
[02:56:33] It's just America has stopped it
[02:56:35] from being delivered to Iran.
[02:56:38] America gets to do this because oil is traded on dollars,
[02:56:43] American dollars.
[02:56:46] Yes, all that takes place in this situation
[02:56:49] oil has been extracted and shipped over to another country. Iran no longer has the oil.
[02:56:56] America now has frozen the money.
[02:56:59] The question is, well, why are they not doing much damage? And that is because more than 150
[02:57:04] Iranian vessels are currently at the bottom of the sea. During Operation Epic Fury,
[02:57:09] the United States hammered the Iranian Navy, and they had prepared for a possible confrontation with
[02:57:15] the United States, but not enough, because the U.S. was so successful in these strikes
[02:57:20] that much of the Navy vessels the Iranians had prepared were not able to be used.
[02:57:24] And that is the reason that they have to use these smaller vessels to threaten international
[02:57:29] shipping lanes.
[02:57:30] And again, this speaks to the success of Operation Epic Fury and just the inability of the Iranian
[02:57:35] regime to even respond and to violate the ceasefire in this manner.
[02:57:40] And so that is one of the key pillars of this broader agreement that President Trump is
[02:57:43] demanding the Iranian regime sign. They are going to keep open the Strait of Hormuz.
[02:57:48] They are going to release that highly enriched uranium that is buried deep underground in
[02:57:52] the aftermath of those U.S. strikes last summer. And they're going to stop threatening U.S.
[02:57:56] forces across the region. The president tells me, or the Iranians are going to pay a heavy
[02:58:01] price. And that price is going to come at their power plants, their bridges, and the
[02:58:06] remaining infrastructure belonging to the Iranian regime.
[02:58:10] The president said right now there is a divide between the hardliners and the more moderates
[02:58:14] within the Iranian political leadership that remains.
[02:58:17] Remember in the opening strikes of Operation Epic Fury, the United States and Israel took
[02:58:22] out the command structure of the Iranian regime.
[02:58:25] Around Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khamenei was taken out in an airstrike along with his
[02:58:29] top advisors.
[02:58:31] The Iranians were in disarray in these moments after Operation Epic Fury began because they
[02:58:36] Dude, Trey Yinx has become the biggest glazer of the Trump regime.
[02:58:46] Like he is one of the most insane propagandists at this point.
[02:58:52] It is unbelievable how much he eats Trump's penis every time he talks, okay?
[02:59:03] kind of crazy. Like pretty much everything he said about the military successes we all know
[02:59:13] was a failure. There was no real military goal that was achieved.
[02:59:19] And it's kind of insane the way he talks about this stuff.
[02:59:27] I thought you said you liked him. I mean, he's an interesting guy. He has been one of the lone
[02:59:32] voices that has actually criticized Israel from Israel about, you know, it's, it's targeting and,
[02:59:39] and slaughter of Palestinian journalists. But I guess this is his job here is to be a stenographer
[02:59:48] for Trump. Yeah, the Hawks keep saying, we took out Iran's leadership. How could we be doing badly
[02:59:56] as if nothing happens this day one of the war? Yeah, it's just, you're not recognizing the events
[03:00:02] instead of unfolded in the last 51 days and instead of the last 52 days.
[03:00:15] They keep saying over and over again like, well, we killed common A. We killed the leadership
[03:00:21] structure and they were in a state of disarray. They were in a state of panic. It's like, okay,
[03:00:25] Well, their mosaic defense system was implemented instantly, and they haven't stopped pummeling
[03:00:33] both the GCC states and also Israel since that began, and they have control over the
[03:00:39] Shredda Hormuz.
[03:00:42] We're hit even harder than anyone in the region believed they were going to be hit.
[03:00:51] And again, this speaks to the inability of the Iranians to not only defend their top
[03:00:55] leaders, but also defend their military structure.
[03:00:59] When we think about the threat Iran posed before Operation Epic Fury began, they were
[03:01:04] basically trying to get a nuclear weapon.
[03:01:06] They told negotiators they had enough highly enriched uranium for 11 nuclear bombs.
[03:01:11] And this was an indication to President Trump something had to be done to stop this regime
[03:01:15] from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
[03:01:17] But remember, you have this threat from the Iranians that also includes ballistic missiles
[03:01:21] and drones and as part of operation epic. Oh, Trey Yinks was promoted the chief foreign
[03:01:27] correspondent. Maybe that's when he switched up his tune. I don't know, but this is not
[03:01:33] good reporting at all. This is just being a stenographer for Trump. You're, you're not
[03:01:39] educating the Fox news viewership in any way, shape, or form. And he's also doubling down
[03:01:45] on the propaganda side where he's like, Oh, Iran says like they're weeks away from a nuclear
[03:01:49] they never said that. They've said the exact opposite. And they were unbelievably conciliatory
[03:01:55] to the demands that the American side was making, as not only the Iranian side has repeatedly conceded
[03:02:01] on those demands, especially as far as like developing a nuclear weapon, but the Omani,
[03:02:08] the Omani Foreign Minister came out on American television and literally said a day before America
[03:02:13] started its strikes through, once again, perfidy, that the Iranian side was totally willing to abide
[03:02:22] by the maximalist demands that the American side was making. So like every single thing that he's
[03:02:27] talking about is not only untrue, but also it directly contradicts observable reality.
[03:02:37] And it's also a rehashing of events that have already taken place
[03:02:41] from a totally ridiculous framework, a framework that just makes you believe that whatever Trump
[03:02:50] is saying is actually correct. Don't look at what's going on in the straight. Don't look at what
[03:02:54] has taken place in Israel. Don't look at what's happened in the GCC states and simply listen to
[03:03:00] Trump's words and Trump's framing.
[03:03:02] Fury, President Trump ordered strikes against the production facilities of the Iranian regime,
[03:03:07] hammering their ballistic missile production centers and the drone center.
[03:03:11] This is also contradicted by not only additional reporting, but contradicted by the fact that,
[03:03:17] you know, Iran kept pummeling Israel and GCC states as well. But also there's new New York
[03:03:23] Times reporting that shows that I believe Iran has approximately 60% of its entire missile
[03:03:29] silos that are left intact. These strikes did not actually harm their missile launchers in
[03:03:40] in the way that the American and the Israeli side has been claiming.
[03:03:44] I believe it's what, 60 or 70% that they still have in their stockpile and even a larger
[03:03:51] percentage of their drones as well.
[03:03:55] So virtually everything he's saying is incorrect.
[03:04:00] That were used to target US forces and allies across the Middle East.
[03:04:04] And now President Trump tells me that bridges and power plants are back on the target list
[03:04:09] for the United States.
[03:04:10] If Iran does, by the way, they wouldn't be talking about missiles and or they wouldn't
[03:04:18] be talking about bridges and power plants if they were able to successfully destroy the
[03:04:25] Iranian missile cities that are deep underground. Okay. That is an admission of defeat. That is
[03:04:32] perhaps the greatest. Kyle, watch out. That's crazy. She's like standing right underneath.
[03:04:37] What are you doing, lady?
[03:04:40] I accidentally stepped on you.
[03:04:45] If they were capable, if they were capable of actually destroying,
[03:04:50] atroiding Iran's strike capabilities, if they were capable of destroying Iran's
[03:04:55] missile cities, they wouldn't be talking about fucking,
[03:04:58] they wouldn't be talking about bridges and power plants.
[03:05:03] They wouldn't be talking about hitting civilian targets, right?
[03:05:07] That is also another admission that they have not been able to accomplish their military goals at all
[03:05:13] Not signed this agreement in Islamabad this coming week. The president will order strikes
[03:05:19] He tells me against power plants and bridges inside of Iran
[03:05:22] This will be a major escalation, but the president told me and he is expected
[03:05:27] We also learned in that conversation to release basically a letter today to the Iranians with this tough talk letting them know
[03:05:34] What is at risk for their regime if they do not make a good-faith agreement?
[03:05:38] The president told me this tough talk is the only thing the Iranians understand
[03:05:42] They don't understand the traditional diplomacy and dialogue of the region. They understood. It's so funny, brother
[03:05:50] I've never heard someone be
[03:05:53] So oppositional to reality. It is literally the exact opposite man
[03:05:59] We are behaving like belligerent actors here
[03:06:03] That is crazy. Not only is it wrong. Oh my God, Kaya. No. That's crazy, Kaya. That is crazy.
[03:06:13] She literally was like, she was like, oh yeah, you don't want me to stand right behind you
[03:06:21] so that you can accidentally drive over me with your chair. I'm going to get even closer.
[03:06:27] But in any case, getting back to what Trey was saying here, or it's just, you know, whatever
[03:06:37] Trump is saying that Trey is just repeating verbatim, it's insane to make this argument.
[03:06:44] This entire war started through perfidy when Iran was willing to concede on the American
[03:06:50] framework on enriched uranium.
[03:06:53] So it's not only incorrect, but it's incorrect in the most basic ways.
[03:07:03] It's directly at odds with what we have seen so far in the last 52 days.
[03:07:08] Stand, firepower.
[03:07:09] The firepower that belongs to the United States military, and President Trump again
[03:07:13] told me they have massive amounts of ammunition prepared.
[03:07:16] If the Iranians are not willing to make that good faith agreement, they are going to hammer
[03:07:20] the regime targeting those bridges, power plants, and what is left of the IRGC.
[03:07:25] Like saying we are going to target the bridges and the power plants while simultaneously saying
[03:07:31] Iran doesn't understand like normal diplomatic process that everybody else understands is
[03:07:36] so funny because that's not how you do diplomacy.
[03:07:39] That's not how you do diplomacy at all.
[03:07:41] It's not only an admission that America has totally failed on achieving any of their
[03:07:45] fucking military objectives, which is to destroy these missile cities, destroy Iran's striking
[03:07:50] capabilities and the like.
[03:07:52] But it's also an admission that you, we, America, we are not the ones who are abiding
[03:07:59] by the normal negotiations process.
[03:08:03] Military infrastructure.
[03:08:04] Tray, you were on our show in an earlier hour before this phone call with the president
[03:08:09] and you and I discussed this regime.
[03:08:12] You said that there's a faction, perhaps a more moderate versus a more radical wing
[03:08:20] of this regime, we don't know which one is in charge, maybe you do, maybe you can let
[03:08:24] us know.
[03:08:25] But if the more radical wing is in charge for our discussion earlier, then that means
[03:08:30] they're crazy.
[03:08:32] And that means that this letter and this escalation may not have the results that we want, because
[03:08:39] they don't care.
[03:08:40] They're just like, fine, let it all go.
[03:08:42] This is existential.
[03:08:43] If, you know, we're going to lose.
[03:08:45] So let's all just die and go to heaven, I guess, or hell.
[03:08:49] So did you discuss that with the president in terms of the mental state and the outcomes
[03:08:57] that the mallas and the radical wing want?
[03:09:02] Yes, and I can tell you, having talked to the president multiple times throughout this
[03:09:07] war and prior to this conflict, the president understands exactly who he's dealing with
[03:09:12] here.
[03:09:13] These are not traditional negotiators on the other side of the table.
[03:09:16] This is not a traditional regime.
[03:09:18] on our call today, President Trump brought up the protesters who were slaughtered in
[03:09:21] the streets of their country earlier this year. And the president multiple times said
[03:09:26] he would be there for them. And he targeted actually during Operation Epic Fury many of
[03:09:30] the besieged force commanders and those responsible for the crackdown against Iranian demonstrators
[03:09:36] who were peacefully protesting in the streets of their country. But again, I think the fact
[03:09:40] the president continues to bring this up, he understands two things. He understands
[03:09:44] The Iranian population, more than 90 million people,
[03:09:47] and many of them are quietly supporting
[03:09:49] what President Trump is doing,
[03:09:50] pressuring a repressive regime that spent 47 years
[03:09:54] cracking down on their own people.
[03:09:57] But he also understands the negotiators
[03:09:59] and he understands the break in
[03:10:01] who's actually calling the shots here.
[03:10:03] And it's a great question because
[03:10:05] even the Iranians are not clear
[03:10:07] on who is calling the shots.
[03:10:08] And while you have this divide between the hardliners
[03:10:10] and the more moderates,
[03:10:12] Even the Iranians can't agree on their own position.
[03:10:14] We heard Iran's foreign minister late last week saying the Strait of Hormuz is open.
[03:10:18] And then IRGC commanders saying it's closed.
[03:10:21] And then yesterday firing on these vessels, trying to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
[03:10:26] And again, this speaks to the successful U.S. strikes against the regime and the command
[03:10:30] structure of the IRGC.
[03:10:32] But as it relates to who is at the negotiating table now, the takeaways that I had from this
[03:10:37] 20-minute call with President Trump were quite clear.
[03:10:40] the
[03:11:10] It feels like we're going back to war.
[03:11:14] I mean, this is, I mean, I guess the only thing you can expect here is that Trump is
[03:11:24] inconsistent in his posture when he's on the phone, or his posture when he's tweeting
[03:11:29] is entirely different than what will end up taking shape on the battleground.
[03:11:41] But the key thing to remember is Trump is incredibly responsive to the markets.
[03:11:51] And the whole point of why America wanted Iran to come to the negotiations was because
[03:11:57] of the markets. Iran came to the negotiations table. The markets responded very positively
[03:12:02] to it. Trump likes that. It doesn't make any sense that they would just double down, triple
[03:12:10] down. Not exactly certain to, not exactly, not really sure how this is going to be reflected
[03:12:22] on in a couple hours. Sunday after all. But Iran, Asinatou says Iran closes Hormuz, Trump
[03:12:35] ignores it, then beseeches allies, then threatens and unleashes profanity, lays insults, then
[03:12:39] blockades it himself. Iran says it'll open after Lebanon ceasefire, only for Trump to
[03:12:44] double down on his blockade. Now it's closed again, strategic incoherence. The whole point
[03:12:50] One of this was to pry open the shirt of Hormuz because they can't do this militarily.
[03:12:56] Yeah, futures market in 20 minutes, so we'll see, 19 minutes.
[03:13:01] We'll see how Trump starts talking when that takes shape.
[03:13:13] But the situation is as follows.
[03:13:18] If the Shredda Hormuz is closed still, as it is currently, and the markets are not going
[03:13:24] to react positively to it, price of the barrels or oil futures are going to go up again.
[03:13:36] Barak Ravid says, here's the real beneficiaries of the deal.
[03:13:44] the real principal negotiators.
[03:13:48] President Trump told me in a brief phone call that he is still optimistic about the upcoming
[03:13:52] round of negotiations with Iran and about the chance to reach the deal.
[03:13:56] But the Iranians still, the Iranians believe that Trump's optimistic statements are a deception
[03:14:00] and a cover for a surprise American attack.
[03:14:03] I feel good about this, the concept of the deal is already closed.
[03:14:06] I think we have a very good chance to complete this, Trump told me in brief conversation.
[03:14:11] The Iranians, on the other hand, are lowering expectations and even claiming there is no
[03:14:14] negotiation around with the U.S. this week, Iranian officials suspect that the U.S. might
[03:14:18] attack them even before the end of the ceasefire on Tuesday night.
[03:14:22] There are several signs indicating that the Iranian paranoia is justified, the sensitive
[03:14:26] security discussion that Trump convened in the White House situation room today, Sunday,
[03:14:31] the reinforcement of the U.S. military continues to pour into the Middle East, and the fact
[03:14:35] that so far it hasn't been announced when Vice President Vance is supposed to go to
[03:14:38] Pakistan.
[03:14:41] UAE to Trump administration, you started this war.
[03:14:48] If we run short of USDs as a result of it, either you will give us the USD swap lines,
[03:14:54] or we will be forced to start transacting oil and gas in CNY and other currencies.
[03:15:00] This from the Wall Street Journal just now.
[03:15:02] Now the UAE is the most client to Israeli demands.
[03:15:07] basically an extension of Israel, right? The United Arab Emirates. So if they're talking about Chinese
[03:15:14] UN, okay, that's a fairly large threat, okay? This is the dynamic taking shape in the region that
[03:15:27] I was talking about from basically day, or not day two, but week two of Operation Epstein's Fury.
[03:15:35] the idea that like there's only so much punishment that these guys will abide by
[03:15:40] until they realize that maybe it's time for a different state that they will lean into for real
[03:15:50] stability. Yeah, prominent Emirati commentator Abdul Khalil Abdullah says it's time to think
[03:16:03] about closing US bases, calling them a burden. Remember all those journals briefed by Emirati
[03:16:07] officials last month to be like Iran has really messed up this time. The Gulf States will never
[03:16:11] let go now. Yeah, now this is nothing but a leak. Okay, this doesn't mean that they're actually
[03:16:22] gonna follow through on this promise, right? Never underestimate the Emiratis' willingness
[03:16:30] to be servile to Western interests. Okay. Trust me. If there's one thing you can fucking
[03:16:36] bet the house on, it's that the Emiratis will still be loyal servants to the Western interests,
[03:16:41] specifically to Israel, no matter how hard they flip their phones. But this is a direct,
[03:16:47] this is a direct line of attack against American interests in the region. And the reason why
[03:16:54] it's being communicated through Western press is because they're saying, look, enough is enough.
[03:17:07] If you're reading this coming from any Emirati whatsoever, any commentator whatsoever, that
[03:17:12] means that the UAE wants Americans to hear this, okay? They want Americans to hear this publicly.
[03:17:19] Islamabad and Tehran differences in negotiation. There's a fundamental, oh,
[03:17:29] Vali Nasser, a Raxi's tweet reflected an understanding in Tehran likely based on
[03:17:33] what they heard from Pakistan. But if they took a positive step by opening the
[03:17:36] shirt of Hormuz, U.S. would reciprocate by lifting the blockade. But Trump kept
[03:17:39] the blockade in place and through his many tweets suggests that Iran was
[03:17:42] surrendering on the nuclear issue. This is only fed Iranian suspicious about
[03:17:46] Trump and that Islamabad, like Geneva, is a diplomatic ruse before another military attack.
[03:17:51] The door to diplomacy is not closed, but it has now become considerably more difficult
[03:17:56] deliberately or not.
[03:17:57] Trump has undermined diplomacy and raised the likelihood of more war, right?
[03:18:04] There is a fundamental divergence of worldviews between Islamabad and Tehran that will eventually
[03:18:09] be the reason for a communication gap between the two.
[03:18:11] Islamabad believes that DC has to be fooled to get your way.
[03:18:15] tehran believes dc has to be convinced by power of logic
[03:18:19] since seventy nine tehran hasn't done much too full dc and since seventy nine
[03:18:24] all the song about
[03:18:25] has done is full dc
[03:18:28] these are two basically different approaches to foreign policy in islamabad
[03:18:31] thinks uh... it's way
[03:18:33] uh... thinks it's way is the better way
[03:18:35] islamabad thinks
[03:18:37] it's ways better because it is shown results again and again the slow moving
[03:18:41] uh... seemingly dumb
[03:18:42] vote
[03:18:43] vote gone
[03:18:45] I've never heard that word before. DC admin will always let itself be fooled by happily
[03:18:53] for short-term political gains and Pakistan feeds them that. Can you really argue with
[03:18:57] this strategy? Yeah, I think the Iranian side is correct.
[03:19:05] And it doesn't really matter what Islamabad says. It doesn't really even matter what the
[03:19:11] moderates say. You want to know why? Because those who control the weapons are the ones
[03:19:21] who are making these decisions at the end of the day. And those who control the weapons
[03:19:25] are the hardliners, it's the IRGC. And their assessment is most likely the true assessment,
[03:19:32] the correct assessment, which is that America, until it withstands enough economic damage,
[03:19:37] enough economic punishment, enough of a military deterrence, America will not learn a valuable
[03:19:44] lesson here, a valuable lesson that Iran has to be reckoned with as a sovereign state,
[03:19:51] and that you have to have normal talks with Iran as you would any other country.
[03:19:58] As you would with another country that you respect, the only country that America respects
[03:20:02] unfortunately for Iran is the nation state of Israel. So that's it. And the only way
[03:20:20] to change this dynamic, as I've said over and over again, is if there is sufficient
[03:20:27] pressure being applied to Washington D.C. by allies, whether it be European allies,
[03:20:34] Asian allies, fuck it, Latin American allies if necessary, and also capital owners in general.
[03:20:42] They need to be making boss call after boss call. But the problem with capital owners and all of
[03:20:47] these other European allies is that, well, capital owners are, you know, are much,
[03:20:52] much more independent and can make those conversations happen, can actually communicate
[03:20:58] their desires of the Trump administration.
[03:21:00] But they're probably being duped a little bit themselves by the fact that there's no
[03:21:05] more bombing, right?
[03:21:07] And as far as the European allies or the regional allies, whether it be the GCC or
[03:21:13] not, they are too afraid to say anything to America.
[03:21:18] They can't say anything to America whatsoever.
[03:21:21] So, we just continue on the same trajectory that we've been on.
[03:21:28] Huh?
[03:21:29] Oswald, are we kind of here?
[03:21:47] Any gaming today?
[03:21:48] potentially yes
[03:22:18] come to the table on Tuesday and they sign a good faith agreement that never allows them
[03:22:22] to have a nuclear weapon that make sure they give up their enriched uranium and ensures
[03:22:27] that they open the Strait of Hormuz.
[03:22:29] Option B is that their power plants and bridges are going to be destroyed by the U.S. military,
[03:22:34] the strongest military in the world.
[03:22:36] And so they have a decision to make and the President was very clear just before we got
[03:22:39] off the call.
[03:22:40] He told me Iran has the decision to make and the decision is either going to be an off
[03:22:44] ramp that saves the lives of the leadership and the infrastructure of the country or the
[03:22:50] alternative. And the president told me he is prepared for both options. And again,
[03:22:54] he is sending his negotiating team for one final.
[03:23:00] This is so insane.
[03:23:07] Yeah, I mean, how do you deal with this? Like, how do you deal with this? How do you deal with a bully?
[03:23:14] How can you have a normal, sincere conversation with a bully that is choosing to extort you with threats of terrorism?
[03:23:32] It makes sense that the Iranian calculation here is just to say fuck it, then we go back, we go back to war.
[03:23:39] You have to punch back at that point and with sufficient force that the bully retreats and thinks twice before ever doing this again, not just to you but to everybody else.
[03:23:52] It makes total sense for the IRGC guys to look at the situation but like see we fucking told you there is no negotiating with these guys.
[03:24:03] Proof deterrence has not been established.
[03:24:08] I mean, no, here's the problem.
[03:24:13] Deterrence has been established.
[03:24:15] For any normal country, deterrence has been established.
[03:24:19] The problem is America's not a normal country.
[03:24:24] Ask the GCC if deterrence has been established.
[03:24:31] The, the European allies that have a total of six weeks of jet fuel remaining if deterrence
[03:24:42] has been established.
[03:24:45] Their calculation is very different.
[03:24:49] Effort to try and get this deal across the finish line, but the president was very clear.
[03:24:55] He told me if they do not sign this deal, the whole country is going to get blown up.
[03:25:00] trades. Luke is great reporting. Vice President Vance led the negotiations last weekend in
[03:25:07] Islamabad. He's not going on this trip to Islamabad. Why do you think that is?
[03:25:15] It's a great point and I do want to just read something to you right here as we are talking.
[03:25:19] The president has now posted on TruSocial about exactly what he told me during that conversation.
[03:25:26] He says, in part, Iran decided to fire bullets yesterday in the Strait of Hormuz, a total
[03:25:31] violation of our ceasefire agreement.
[03:25:33] Many of them were aimed at a French ship and a freighter from the United Kingdom.
[03:25:37] The president goes on to say, that wasn't nice, was it?
[03:25:40] My representatives are going to Islamabad, Pakistan confirming what he told me on the
[03:25:44] phone earlier.
[03:25:45] They will be there tomorrow evening for negotiations.
[03:25:48] Iran recently announced that they were closing the Strait, which is strange because our blockade
[03:25:52] has already closed it.
[03:25:53] the president goes on to say in his post,
[03:25:55] they're helping us without knowing.
[03:25:57] And they are the ones that lose with the closed passage,
[03:26:00] $500 million a day.
[03:26:02] Now it's a very long post on true social
[03:26:04] and we will pull it up here,
[03:26:05] but the president later says,
[03:26:07] no more Mr. Nice Guy, they will come down fast.
[03:26:10] He's talking about the bridges and power plants.
[03:26:12] And again, that is what I gathered
[03:26:13] from my conversation with the president
[03:26:15] that he is not playing games here.
[03:26:17] He is not bluffing.
[03:26:19] He is going to hammer the Iranian regime
[03:26:21] if they do not sign on the dotted line.
[03:26:23] choices there is in the days ahead. Can you respond to the two social cases?
[03:26:29] This is not the regime when you openly admit that the strike targets are bridges, tunnels,
[03:26:39] and power plants. The administration is readily admitting that the goal is not to destroy
[03:26:49] the Iranian regime or their military or anything like that. It's just a due terrorism.
[03:26:58] I just, I find it so odd
[03:27:04] that we don't even, we don't even look at this, these kinds of statements with like any
[03:27:11] critical lens whatsoever.
[03:27:16] Like the president keeps repeatedly saying he's going to do
[03:27:20] acts of terror over and over again.
[03:27:24] An appliance media class
[03:27:28] doesn't treat that as a threat to do war crimes, a threat to do
[03:27:32] terror, but instead as a simple negotiations tactic.
[03:27:41] I don't know where we go from here, you know.
[03:27:57] I don't know how you feel like you're the good guy in this situation.
[03:27:59] I came out and we didn't get an answer to the question of why you think JD Vance is
[03:28:05] not included in this negotiation team.
[03:28:11] The shorter answer is we understand that the Vice President is still directly involved
[03:28:15] in these conversations and consultations.
[03:28:17] The President just yesterday at the White House held a situational assessment in the
[03:28:21] situation room gathering top cabinet officials, whether it was a joint chief's chairman, the
[03:28:26] Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, the Vice President, and others.
[03:28:29] And we understand that U.S. Special Envoy Steve Whitcoff was involved as well in that
[03:28:33] conversation.
[03:28:34] And so this is a full court press by the Trump administration.
[03:28:38] A variety of officials are involved at many different levels.
[03:28:42] The United States is preparing not just on the diplomatic front, but also on the military
[03:28:45] front.
[03:28:46] And as the president has made clear on true social and in our call earlier today, he
[03:28:51] has prepared for a variety of outcomes.
[03:28:53] But we are looking at two outcomes here, either a diplomatic solution or military action.
[03:28:58] The decision trading, reporting on the trade.
[03:29:04] Sounds like by the way, that the whole country should be praying right now.
[03:29:08] The whole country needs to pray right now for peace, for them to come to the table and
[03:29:13] this to end.
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[03:29:19] And despite of all this optimism that we've been hearing about from our correspondents
[03:29:24] from Donald Trump and Iranian sources told Al Jazeera that Tehran believes the two sides
[03:29:28] are in fact on the verge of escalation.
[03:29:31] The source said there is inconsistency in Trump's statements and with what is actually
[03:29:37] happening on the ground. Let's head to Tehran now, to Ali Hashim, Ali, to that of course
[03:29:42] is a completely different take from that of Donald Trump in the United States.
[03:29:46] Well, a lot of skepticism here in Tehran with respect to this sudden announcement by President
[03:29:56] Trump, especially that both sides weren't yet able to agree on the most crucial points
[03:30:04] which are the enrichment of uranium, whether this is going to happen, it's going to be
[03:30:10] halted for a certain amount of years or indefinitely, or the other issue which is the fate of the
[03:30:20] highly enriched uranium stockpile, 480 kilograms that are in one of Iran's destroyed nuclear
[03:30:27] facilities.
[03:30:28] Well, these main points were not agreed upon.
[03:30:32] The other issue, which is, at least there is no agreement in principle on what they are
[03:30:37] going to discuss.
[03:30:39] The other issue, which is also very important to the Iranians, and this is why Taslim News
[03:30:45] Agency said that Iran is not sending a delegation to Pakistan unless the blockade on the straight
[03:30:55] and the blockade on the Iranian ports is lifted.
[03:30:59] So now what we are hearing is that the Pakistanis are trying to mediate a kind of goodwill
[03:31:07] escalation, de-escalation measure, whereas the United States will loosen its blockade
[03:31:16] on the Iranian ports while Iran also will loosen its blockade to the Strait of Hummus.
[03:31:22] So what we are dealing with right now is very complicated.
[03:31:26] The Iranian Foreign Minister and the Pakistani Foreign Minister had a phone call.
[03:31:31] Most probably the Pakistani Foreign Minister was inviting the Iranian Foreign Minister
[03:31:36] to attend alongside his team of experts and diplomats the next round of negotiations.
[03:31:45] Now, the main issue here that the Iranians could be very concerned of is that the meetings
[03:31:54] that could happen in Islamabad in the coming days could end up with announcing a kind of
[03:32:00] an agreement similar to the one that took place in Gaza, the one on Gaza, with no strict
[03:32:08] points, and leaving the main unbridgeable, at least for now, or the main points of collision
[03:32:16] between both sides, such as the enrichment and the highly rich uranium, till later.
[03:32:23] And also, and this is actually the most sensitive thing for the Iranians, and delaying the lifting
[03:32:28] of sanctions till later, so to Iran.
[03:32:33] This would mean an unended conflict, because still they will be paying the price of the
[03:32:40] situation, they will be under economic sanctions.
[03:32:46] And the only thing that would happen is that President Trump would take a deal, but an
[03:32:52] empty deal.
[03:32:53] Ali, Iran's posture is certainly one of defiance, isn't it, taking defiant tone.
[03:32:59] But it is.
[03:33:00] must be under intense pressure.
[03:33:05] Well there's no doubt there is intense pressure, economic pressure at the same time.
[03:33:11] The country here is in a situation of, it's not moving, it's just stock in a situation
[03:33:20] between no war and no peace.
[03:33:23] And with a 90 million population, with just a few months ago, a protest that saw thousands
[03:33:31] killed, with a financial situation very dire.
[03:33:37] All these issues, of course, put a lot of pressure on the system.
[03:33:41] But the system also is fighting what it describes as an imposed war.
[03:33:46] So it doesn't have much choices.
[03:33:49] It doesn't have the choice to surrender, and it doesn't have the choice to escalate at
[03:33:53] the same time.
[03:33:54] Ali, thanks for that, Ali Hashem there in the Iranian capital.
[03:33:59] The sky has cleared, and the bombing has stopped.
[03:34:05] The sense of calm has filtered through the Iranian capital, but there's little joy in
[03:34:11] this city.
[03:34:12] It's difficult to speak to people in Iran, the internet has been cut for the past six weeks.
[03:34:30] But a small number are trying to talk to us.
[03:34:34] They've managed to post on social media and send messages via the web.
[03:34:39] The city is calmer after the news of ceasefire.
[03:34:55] Young girls without a job are enjoying their Latina Kyoto under the sun, while black-willed
[03:35:01] women wave their Iranian flag in the government-sponsored rallies at the main squares.
[03:35:07] After a bombardment of 40 consecutive days, people in Tehran are emerging from the shadows
[03:35:15] to drink coffee, to reacquaint with friends.
[03:35:18] But a shaky ceasefire offers them little or no certainty.
[03:35:23] residents have been sending us messages.
[03:35:53] The Americans and the Israelis trained much of their firepower on the capital, a massive
[03:36:02] bombardment on a densely populated city.
[03:36:07] And the experience was captured by a red crescent paramedic called Ali.
[03:36:12] I wish someone would tap me on the shoulder and say, get up, it was a dream, he wrote
[03:36:17] in a message that accompanied this post.
[03:36:21] And residents have also been documenting the aftermath.
[03:36:26] This man is the owner of a Persian music school.
[03:36:30] I want to be able to listen to music and not to play music, and I want to be able to listen
[03:36:36] to music for a hundred and thirty-one years, thank you.
[03:36:43] He then plays this instrument, a common che, in the ruins of his own school.
[03:36:48] is a small act of defiance. It's been repeated in other parts of the city. The authorities
[03:37:04] claim that tens of thousands of civilian targets in Tehran have been destroyed. Here, professors
[03:37:12] at Shahid Beheshti University conduct classes outside the remains of an academic building.
[03:37:19] Far from threatening the regime, the U.S.-Israeli bombing has arguably strengthened it. Here
[03:37:26] we see giant posters of the girls killed in a strike on a school in the city of Minna,
[03:37:32] a calamity that has prompted widespread horror.
[03:37:36] The regime has sought to harness this outrage and pro-government rallies held nightly, while
[03:37:48] state media broadcast messages from unlikely supporters.
[03:38:03] without headscarfs pictured here backing the country's ultra-conservative leadership.
[03:38:08] If I don't have the blood, I'll die. I'll go to the police station.
[03:38:14] But I don't want to leave the regime.
[03:38:25] The regime's many critics now find themselves in a difficult position,
[03:38:30] and a war. How conservative is Iran? Um, you got like 20 to 30% ultra conservative fundies.
[03:38:42] And then the rest are not very conservative at all.
[03:38:46] very conservative at all.
[03:38:55] But ultimately,
[03:38:59] ultimately,
[03:39:04] the rest are not unified behind like a,
[03:39:10] like an actual political movement either.
[03:39:16] So on the one hand, by the way, the conservatives are also very well educated too. Everyone is very well educated. That's the other side of this as well. It's not like the conservatives are like our MAGA, a bunch of fucking mouth breathing hogs. They're just, they're just fundies.
[03:39:34] like you see Americans see those women wearing the burqas wearing the hijab and and think to themselves like oh these must be like backwards people like no those are like chemical engineers you know what I mean
[03:39:50] It shouldn't even have to be mentioned, but I feel like I have to remind Americans that when you see a lady dressed like that, you probably have a lot of Orientalist opinions, but like they are in the government.
[03:40:07] They're a part of the bossage forces. They are, you know, petrochemical engineers and sometimes even drone manufacturers.
[03:40:16] Okay?
[03:40:19] It's caused immense suffering.
[03:40:32] for the people of this mega city the sky itself is a source of fear that's what 40 days of bombing does
[03:40:57] We spoke to a resident called Leila by phone.
[03:41:01] I need to use my pills. The drugs and pills in Iran are very, very expensive right now.
[03:41:07] You can't find fluxitine, acentra, cetalopram.
[03:41:12] That's why I think most people are in the same situation as me.
[03:41:19] Trapped between war and peace.
[03:41:22] by the bombs and a government that demands total obedience.
[03:41:28] It seems the residents of Tehran have nowhere left to go.
[03:41:35] John Sparks, Sky News.
[03:41:52] There's still wave that is really flies though.
[03:42:10] Anti-Netanyahu is a group who say that democracy is a threat, and even a group of mothers of
[03:42:20] anti-eternal soldiers protesting what they think is a threat.
[03:42:24] I will say this, far less is really flags nowadays at those protests than ever before.
[03:42:35] Okay. Back in the day, all of the anti Netanyahu crowd, whenever they protested on the streets
[03:42:41] of Israel, it would be fucking, they all be waving the Israeli flag, all of them. Okay.
[03:42:48] I have noticed a lot less Israeli flags being waved at these protests.
[03:42:53] Israel prides itself as being the only democracy in the region, but these protesters insist
[03:43:08] their government is maligned and say the world can see it.
[03:43:12] See, our country is turning into a fascist dictatorship.
[03:43:19] It hates all farmers, it's ready to kill and go on for an unending war.
[03:43:26] I mean, Netanyahu would say Israel has been surrounded by enemies
[03:43:31] and that it has to be strong in defense.
[03:43:34] You make enemies into allies, you make peace, you do diplomacy, you don't go to war time
[03:43:42] after time. Our prime minister has sworn that his vision of the future is that we will live forever
[03:43:48] by the sword. He said that and I'm not willing to go that direction. Are you proud of being in
[03:43:55] Israeli at the moment? No. No. What is your emotion? I feel that it's a country that has
[03:44:10] already gone quite the way towards an authoritarian regime that has committed crime, so it does
[03:44:19] not make me proud. The protests followed by both police and military, there were a few
[03:44:25] isolated scuffles. In a country where right-wing politicians dominate, many of these people
[03:44:33] feel their views go unheard.
[03:44:35] We must stop this war. There's endless wars. It's useless. It's only bringing us only disasters.
[03:44:43] Nothing good comes out of it.
[03:44:45] We have to get to a peaceful solution. We have to get to some sort of a political solution.
[03:44:53] We have to talk to our neighbour, we have to talk to the Palestinians, we have to talk
[03:44:57] to the Palestinian citizens of Israel and we definitely have to stop using force to solve
[03:45:02] everything.
[03:45:03] Well now everyone here is happy about this process.
[03:45:06] Those groups of people over there have been shouting abuse and jeering so we're going
[03:45:11] to go and ask them why.
[03:45:13] I
[03:45:40] love seeing fucking hogs in the wild. The hog universality theory remains to be true.
[03:45:51] Marv, the Israeli public, which sent its sons and daughters in the line of fire and paid an
[03:45:54] unimaginable price and blow sweat in the destruction of homes, feels that no clear
[03:45:59] result has been achieved. The feeling is that they pay, that the heavy price has been paid in full,
[03:46:04] but the product, real security and the removal of the threat has not been provided. This is an
[03:46:08] erosion of national resilience, a situation in which the public begins to wonder whether
[03:46:14] its sacrifice has strategic purpose.
[03:46:16] On the other hand, on the Iranian side and its branches, the logic is completely opposite
[03:46:21] and discouraging.
[03:46:22] For the axis of evil, the concept of victory does not require the destruction of the IDF.
[03:46:28] It only requires the survival of the organization.
[03:46:32] The mere ability to survive the Israeli blow, to stay on its feet, and to force a powerful
[03:46:40] country like Israel to sign a ceasefire under the auspices of the superpowers is seen as
[03:46:43] a great success.
[03:46:45] This success immediately translates into a sense of victory that fuels the narrative
[03:46:50] of the resistance.
[03:46:51] We have defeated the Zionist military machine.
[03:46:53] This was the case with Hamas.
[03:46:55] This was what was happening now with his Bullah.
[03:46:57] For them, every minute of ceasefire is a minute of reconstruction, strengthening and planning
[03:47:01] for the next massacre. This is the colossal mistake of the West, and of Trump in particular.
[03:47:07] They try to apply the rules of the business world, a world of compromise, profits sharing
[03:47:11] and striving for a middle ground, to a region where the game is zero-sub. In the Middle
[03:47:15] East, today's compromise is tomorrow's missile fuel, while the West seeks stability so that
[03:47:20] the markets will calm down. Iran seeks existence so that its ideology will prevail, for the
[03:47:25] I told this time is the most precious resource. What a fucking psychotic thing to write dude
[03:47:32] God like
[03:47:34] Just average Israeli pros and and a you know Israeli newspaper is just straight up from the mouth of Adolf Hitler
[03:47:49] Like think about it, they're literally saying like we have to kill every Iran like we have to destroy Iran
[03:47:56] Every moment that we're not destroying Iran, every moment that they exist is a slight against us.
[03:48:04] Okay. The current ceasefire is not a political solution. It's a strategic recovery period that
[03:48:10] allows them to fill their depleted warehouses and prepare the infrastructure for the next October
[03:48:14] 7th, perhaps this time from the north. The ceasefire that was forced upon us is a glaring warning
[03:48:21] sign. It reminds us that Israel's security cannot rest on international promises or on
[03:48:26] deals by businessmen. However talented they may be, the responsibility for our fate rests
[03:48:30] solely on our shoulders. They're pissed off that America was like, bro, please stop
[03:48:33] murdering children in Lebanon for like a day.
[03:48:35] What? I think Kai Lentit is roasting you in this video. He is very funny, their Discord
[03:48:58] server in the video is called hashtag pikers I don't know why you're showing
[03:49:07] me this I don't know who this guy is but in any case let's continue I mean I
[03:49:20] didn't invent modernist situation I was actually making a meme about people who
[03:49:24] say that, but it's become a reality now.
[03:49:42] Yeah, they're literally mad.
[03:49:44] They're mad that like, oh, okay, the bomb started to stop dropping on us, but also at the same time,
[03:49:49] like, we haven't murdered every Lebanese person in the south.
[03:49:52] So, obviously, what is all this for?
[03:49:56] We should be fucking slaughtering the Lebanese population of southern Lebanon.
[03:50:02] We need more death, we need more violence, we need more destruction.
[03:50:05] It is so strange.
[03:50:07] I think it's, as you said, ceasefire and probably will proceed within, I don't know, the next couple of months, weeks, nobody knows.
[03:50:29] Hopefully the next time we will continue to move forward and eventually peace will come in Syria.
[03:50:41] I don't know when but it will come.
[03:50:59] We were so close but there were some differences over important issues which United States
[03:51:18] actually decided not to abandon its maximum disposition.
[03:51:21] So that was the reason that we decided to first finalize this framework and then move
[03:51:27] on to it in-person meetings, I can say.
[03:51:33] So this is why that Phil's Marshal Ossimini was in Tehran from Wednesday evening until
[03:51:40] Friday and there were plenty of messages and meetings back and forth happened and also
[03:51:48] texts was exchanged.
[03:51:51] And we are still not there yet to move on to an actual meeting because there are issues
[03:51:57] that Americans yet have not abandoned their maximum exposition.
[03:52:01] I can tell you that Iran has no option just to stop aggressors and funds forever.
[03:52:11] We are defending.
[03:52:12] We are defending.
[03:52:13] This was not our choice.
[03:52:15] This war was not our choice.
[03:52:17] It was unnecessary, unprovoked war of aggression that started by Americans and Israelis in
[03:52:23] the middle of negotiation.
[03:52:25] And while they were just, you know, conspiring behind the scene that, you know, negotiations
[03:52:31] worked well and they're promising that there are going to be good and significant progress.
[03:52:36] Then they started the surprise assassinations.
[03:52:38] They assassinated the head of state, martyred standing over leader in his office and off
[03:52:45] duty commanders, not in situation room, not in front line, but also in their offices.
[03:52:52] So this shows to what extent we have to be very careful and being ready for any scenario.
[03:53:45] That was Biden. My man pulling up Biden quotes. They said Israel is the the
[03:54:11] the the the military police of the United States in the region
[03:54:41] in the war and in our daily life.
[03:54:45] But everything was not agreed.
[03:54:49] We fought with them in a war with our own terror.
[03:54:56] With our own readiness.
[03:54:59] We wanted to kill their enemies.
[03:55:02] But the terror and the use of the army did not work out.
[03:55:08] When the Sean Connors show up, it's so funny that you guys are saying that because they
[03:55:20] used to say that about Khomeini as well.
[03:55:23] Not Hameinay, but Ayatollah Khomeini, they used to say also looks like Sean Connory.
[03:55:30] New Iran's Qatam al Anbiya, Central Headquarters says it will soon respond after confirming
[03:55:35] a US strike on an Iranian commercial vessel and boarding of the ship by American Marines
[03:55:40] according to IRGC-linked Fars News. The command accused the US of violating the ceasefire and
[03:55:44] carrying out arm maritime piracy, saying American forces open fire on a vessel in the Gulf of Oman,
[03:55:49] disabled its navigation system, and then deployed a number of its terrorist Marines onto the deck.
[03:55:55] It said Iran's armed forces will respond and retaliate for what it described as an
[03:55:59] act of mandatory and aggression by the US military. They already did.
[03:56:05] Cisbar is over. Wait, isn't this literally from... They did already?
[03:56:20] They sent drones.
[03:56:27] Gallibuff is back to posting.
[03:56:30] Vibe trading digital oil is like vibe hedging in treasuries during Hormuz risk off.
[03:56:35] Both share one house of cards that works on paper.
[03:56:38] Difference, oil is at least has, oil at least has dated Brent.
[03:56:44] These vibes all the way down.
[03:56:53] You know the war efforts have restarted because they're memeing again.
[03:56:58] They're posting aggressively again.
[03:57:01] I had noticed a lack of posts, and the posts are back.
[03:57:09] Iran State-run Tasnim News Agency, which is an affiliate of the Islamic Revolution at
[03:57:12] The Guard Corps is claiming that the Iranian force attacks American military ships with
[03:57:16] drones in response to today's U.S. attack on the Iranian flag, Tusca, in the Gulf of Oman.
[03:57:23] The self-proclaimed greatest military force in the world became the leader of the pirates.
[03:57:28] American terrorist military forces attacked an Iranian container ship named Tusca, which
[03:57:31] was traveling from China to Iran in the Gulf of Oman a few hours ago.
[03:57:37] After the Americans attacked the ship, Iranian forces have also attacked some American military
[03:57:40] ships or drones. Oh, it wasn't even leaving the Shred of Hormuz. It was coming back.
[03:57:47] God, that is so cowardly. They couldn't hit a ship that was transiting through the Shred of Hormuz,
[03:57:56] going to China, so they hit an empty ship instead that was coming back from China.
[03:58:02] Oh my God, we are, we really are paper tigers. I swear to God.
[03:58:13] After the Americans attacked the ship, Iranian forces also attacked some American milterships
[03:58:16] with drones. Trump claimed a few hours ago that American terrorists have seized the ship.
[03:58:20] previously announced that it would retaliate against any American action actions.
[03:58:32] They're afraid the Chinese are sending weapons, it could be.
[03:58:36] That could be the case.
[03:58:54] Syria is a reporting large number of Israeli aircrafts flying across southern Syria tonight
[03:58:58] heading eastwards towards Iran.
[03:59:01] Oh shit.
[03:59:04] Israel was begging for this moment, like the destruction of the ceasefire conversation.
[03:59:21] Israel's trying to take Lebanon offshore gas dream. Israel moves to take control over Lebanon's
[03:59:27] offshore gas dream. Researcher Ahmed Baidun says Israel's newly declared forward defense
[03:59:32] zone and some Lebanon effectively folds the Kana gas field into its control. Despite Lebanon's
[03:59:37] rights under the 2022 U S brokered maritime deal. Oh my God. Would you look at that?
[03:59:49] I mean, it's, it's a positively anti-Semitic really. If you don't let them have it.
[03:59:57] I mean, it's just sitting there. It's sitting there waiting to be taken over by Israeli hands.
[04:00:02] What do you not want the only Jewish state in the world to have additional gas fields?
[04:00:11] Like, that's, I would never.
[04:00:15] It's positively anti-Semitic.
[04:00:17] Mike Huckabee said it's okay.
[04:00:19] Here's my take.
[04:00:20] How Trump's Iran opposed quietly fueling China's rise, says Fareed Zakaria.
[04:00:24] Let's take a look.
[04:00:25] Something puzzling is happening on the world stage.
[04:00:28] The United States has been infuriating much of the world by being reckless, erratic and
[04:00:32] lawless.
[04:00:33] It was promised to Israel 3,000 years ago, it's in the Bible, the Bible said so.
[04:00:40] Do you hate every Jewish person on the planet?
[04:00:51] The lateral military actions, roiling the global economy, upending alliances and treating
[04:00:57] long held norms as inconveniences. And yet China, the world's rising superpower, has
[04:01:04] not piled on with thunderous denunciations and proclaimed itself the responsible alternative
[04:01:10] to an unreliable America. Understanding why will help us better grasp Beijing's long game.
[04:01:19] I spent the last week in China and was struck by how many people there felt differently
[04:01:24] about this latest American war in the Middle East compared to the last major one.
[04:01:29] During the Iraq war, Chinese strategists seemed almost gleeful at the spectacle of America
[04:01:35] mired in the desert.
[04:01:37] This time, officials, think tank scholars, and business leaders were mostly bewildered
[04:01:42] by America's chaotic policy, worried about it, and deeply uncertain about what Trump
[04:01:48] might do next.
[04:01:50] this is self-interest. China needs the oil and gas that pass through the
[04:01:54] strait of Hormuz. More broadly, the country is not a rogue state like Russia.
[04:02:00] It understands that its growth depends on open sea lanes, functioning markets,
[04:02:05] and steady rules of the game. Chinese officials repeatedly told me, echoing Xi Jinping,
[04:02:12] that the- I'm sorry. Calling Russia a rogue state is fine, right? But we are also a rogue
[04:02:20] state. America and Israel are both rogue states here. But by those standards, there are two
[04:02:27] countries here that are invested in stability, regional stability and international stability.
[04:02:32] Iran is still playing by the rules. So is China. I think it's fair to call Russia a rogue state,
[04:02:41] but you've got to also recognize that we are the rogue state. United States was taking the world back
[04:02:46] to the law of the jungle. It's less a moral critique than a strategic anxiety in a globalized
[04:02:53] world when the reigning hegemon becomes utterly unpredictable is bad for everyone.
[04:02:58] Can you define rogue state for us? Yes, a state that behaves in a rogue-like manner outside
[04:03:05] of the confines of international law. A state that says all of the international stability
[04:03:11] that was designed is for nothing. A state that just casts it all aside and engages in
[04:03:18] might makes right politics. Chinese officials claim their country does not want to replace
[04:03:25] the United States. Its business leaders insisted that America remains the more innovative economy.
[04:03:32] though America has sound on
[04:03:35] for the record, America doing
[04:03:36] this makes even less sense.
[04:03:41] Because we wrote international
[04:03:44] law and the framework that we
[04:03:47] have operated off of around the
[04:03:50] globe that China operates off of
[04:03:51] that every other country
[04:03:52] operates off of is a framework
[04:03:54] that we designed that benefits
[04:03:57] us tremendously. So we're just
[04:03:59] fucking up the bag for ourselves
[04:04:01] for no real reason other than to abide by Israel's wishes.
[04:04:05] China, those leaders continue to admire Silicon Valley, America's great universities, and
[04:04:10] the scale and sophistication of the US market.
[04:04:15] China's strategy is to use this crisis to build its economic strength and global influence.
[04:04:22] China is doubling down on the frontier technologies that it believes will define the next era
[04:04:27] of growth, green energy, robotics, artificial intelligence applied to real industries, advanced
[04:04:34] manufacturing and services.
[04:04:37] Its dominance in some of these sectors is already staggering.
[04:04:41] It produces 80% of the world's solar panels, about 60% of the wind turbines, and 75% of
[04:04:49] the batteries.
[04:04:50] It supplies 70% of all electric vehicles on the planet.
[04:04:56] China has used the last three economic shocks to further its dominance.
[04:05:01] During the pandemic, Chinese firms surged to supply much of the world with medical equipment.
[04:05:07] As the artificial intelligence boom swelled, China became central to its physical buildout,
[04:05:13] the metals, electrical equipment, batteries, cooling systems, and industrial components
[04:05:19] needed for data centers.
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[04:06:19] China is the indispensable power. It dominates the green technologies.
[04:06:26] Solar, wind, batteries, electric vehicles that countries will need to reduce dependence on imported oil and gas.
[04:06:34] Beijing turns these industrial strengths into influence. It offers financing, infrastructure and supply chains.
[04:06:42] it locks got below a junior
[04:06:45] high-train just started below a junior thing of the ten gifted
[04:06:52] three systems it shows governments that america brings volatility
[04:06:57] what china brings equipment credit and continuity
[04:07:01] from two thousand two two thousand twenty five
[04:07:04] Beijing finance projects imports in ninety countries around the world
[04:07:09] Last month, Beijing even offered Taiwan a deal of sorts, accept peaceful reunification,
[04:07:17] and the mainland will guarantee your energy security.
[04:07:22] China's next expansion of influence is crucial.
[04:07:25] She recently made explicit Beijing's ambition to turn the Reminbi into a global reserve
[04:07:30] currency.
[04:07:32] One former official explained how China would steadily expand its bond market and financial
[04:07:37] infrastructure so that if investors came to see America as risky, they would have an alternative.
[04:07:45] Recent weeks have brought an obscure but ominous sign.
[04:07:50] Institutions like the World Bank and the European Investment Bank have been able to issue debt
[04:07:55] at rates essentially as low as those offered by U.S. Treasuries.
[04:08:01] This threatens to end what has been called America's exorbitant privilege of having the
[04:08:06] the world's reserve currency. If that erodes, America will get a very painful shock when
[04:08:12] its government and its households can no longer borrow so much, so cheaply.
[04:08:20] China is using this moment to burnish its reputation, but mostly to build its power.
[04:08:25] If the correlation of forces moves steadily in its favor, if America continues to squander
[04:08:31] its global influence, one day Beijing might decide that after all, it does want to take
[04:08:38] on the mantle of the world's leading power.
[04:08:41] And at that point, it will be too late for Washington to do anything about it.
[04:08:46] On Friday, Iran and America is bouldering in that direction.
[04:08:52] We are doing seemingly everything in our power to forcibly redesign society in this way.
[04:09:00] I think we have forced China's hand, I think that China, if left to his own devices, would
[04:09:14] not want to become the hegemon now.
[04:09:25] But we are basically causing China to take over this responsibility.
[04:09:31] It was reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
[04:09:34] But on Saturday, it said the Strait was closing again due to breaches of trust by the United
[04:09:39] States.
[04:09:40] Just hours ago, President Trump responded with fury on his true social account, calling
[04:09:45] it a total violation of our ceasefire agreement.
[04:09:48] He also said that a U.S. delegation will be in Pakistan tomorrow evening for a second
[04:09:52] round of negotiations, and said that if Iran does not accept a deal, then the United States
[04:09:57] is going to knock out every single power plant and every single bridge in Iran.
[04:10:02] Now there are only three days left before the U.S.-Iran ceasefire is set to end.
[04:10:08] And Iran's top negotiator says the U.S. and Iran are still far from a final agreement.
[04:10:13] Joining me now is Vali Nasser.
[04:10:15] He is a professor of international affairs and Middle Eastern studies at Johns Hopkins
[04:10:20] University, and has authored an important book, The Grand
[04:10:24] Strategy of Iran, which in many ways, I would, you predicts
[04:10:29] a lot about what has happened.
[04:10:32] Why is Iran being so intransigent in the face of
[04:10:36] these extraordinary threats that Trump has made?
[04:10:41] I mean, first of all, Iran thinks that through the 40
[04:10:43] days war, they did make some strategic gains that they want
[04:10:46] to consolidate.
[04:10:47] And they also think that they can actually get a final deal with President Trump if they stand their ground.
[04:10:55] But the most important thing here is an issue of trust.
[04:10:58] I think in Islamabad, the opportunity was for the two sides to build trust that then would allow them to resolve things.
[04:11:06] But after the talks ended, I think trust has actually collapsed even further between Iran saying it would open the streets,
[04:11:14] the United States not lifting the blockade and then President Trump issuing a series
[04:11:19] of tweets that Iranians say were false and it is it is pretty interesting that after
[04:11:25] 52 fucking days, almost all of these guys who in the beginning they were like, oh, Iran
[04:11:32] fucked up big time now have been retreating back into this much more restrained approach
[04:11:40] to American foreign policy. I find that to be rather odd. 52 days ago, everybody was
[04:11:52] like, oh, that you done did it now, Iran. You done did it now. We're going to destroy
[04:11:58] your fucking stockpiles. We're going to fuck you guys up. I'm not saying volley Nasser
[04:12:05] was one of those people. I'm talking about freed Zacharia and numerous others.
[04:12:09] Portrays the image like Iran has already surrendered even before there's a final deal.
[04:12:15] So I think what we see as Iran in transigence is also.
[04:12:20] Why does Trump focus on bridges? Because he can't do anything about the missile silos.
[04:12:25] He can't do anything about the missile cities. So he has to keep punishing the civilian population.
[04:12:30] It's a very Israeli style of waging war.
[04:12:35] It's what you do when you're weak.
[04:12:36] Iran's deep distrust that this is all a ruse, like what happened in Geneva, the US is setting
[04:12:42] them up for something bigger to come.
[04:12:44] The Geneva point is important because my understanding is the Iranians thought they
[04:12:48] were negotiating in good faith in Geneva and in the middle of it, Trump starts the war.
[04:12:54] And so there is specifically a lot of lack of trust with the two negotiators, Witkoff
[04:13:00] often Kushner, correct?
[04:13:01] Yes, those two in particular, and especially in Geneva
[04:13:05] the last round, because Iran did put forward very new things
[04:13:09] that it hadn't done before.
[04:13:10] It went much farther than it had gone before.
[04:13:13] And what it got instead was bombing.
[04:13:15] In other words, it's not like the US said, OK,
[04:13:17] these are great concessions.
[04:13:20] I want you to concede even more.
[04:13:21] And I'm going to be tougher until you concede.
[04:13:23] It just went straight to war.
[04:13:25] And it had done this once before.
[04:13:27] When the war happened in June, they
[04:13:28] who are also in the middle of negotiations.
[04:13:30] With Kaffir and Kushner.
[04:13:32] With Kaffir and Kushner.
[04:13:33] So the Iranians are extremely suspicious that maybe
[04:13:35] this whole Islamabad exercise, its theater,
[04:13:40] as the United States build its forces in the region,
[04:13:43] sort of learns the lessons of the first 40 days,
[04:13:45] and Trump may go back to war again.
[04:13:48] And also, this whole talk about Iran has made concessions
[04:13:52] is a way of actually creating confusion in Tehran
[04:13:55] and breaking ranks within Iran.
[04:13:58] My own view on that is that Trump is just talking down the stock market.
[04:14:01] He knows that every time he says things like, we're close to a deal that's surrendered,
[04:14:06] the stock market doesn't collapse, which is one of his goals.
[04:14:11] Is there a new leadership in Iran?
[04:14:13] And how to think about that issue of these new people?
[04:14:17] Are they divided?
[04:14:19] Are they more hard-line?
[04:14:21] I believe there is a cohesive leadership.
[04:14:25] In other words, the top four or five people have known each other, have worked together,
[04:14:30] are from the same ilk in Iran.
[04:14:33] They are all Mojtaba Khomeini's people, and he included.
[04:14:36] So it's not like you have a coalition at the top.
[04:14:39] You have the same ilk there.
[04:14:41] They're much more hawkish leaders in Iran.
[04:14:43] They are not restrained in waging aggressive war, but they've also shown that they can,
[04:14:48] they are willing to lean into negotiations and diplomacy as well.
[04:14:51] What does a more hard line mean?
[04:14:54] that they are willing to take actions that oil futures free information are five to six dollars
[04:15:00] currently dude make it more expensive make it more expensive what am i gonna do i'm just gonna
[04:15:08] grind fucking harder baby make the price of an oil barrel go up to two hundred dollars guess what
[04:15:17] i'm just gonna fucking sigma on my grind set i'm on my summer grind says shit you don't understand
[04:15:24] Bro, you don't understand make that shit 150 fuck it 200 baby. I'll be out there grinding extra hard
[04:15:33] Okay, fuck it make it $300 a barrel. I'll be working that hard
[04:15:40] Okay, I'll be working three times as hard baby make it 250 for America's birthday. Fuck it
[04:15:47] It says to do with an electric car.
[04:15:51] Shut the fuck up, bro.
[04:15:52] Okay, calm down.
[04:15:53] I do have an electric vehicle, but that's not the point.
[04:16:01] The point is I'm grinding.
[04:16:04] I'm grinding super fucking hard, dude.
[04:16:12] Because that's a small price that we're all willing to pay, right?
[04:16:15] As long as Israel gets its war goals across, right?
[04:16:23] I mean the inverse, the alternative is what being called an anti-Semite.
[04:16:28] I mean, I would never, I would hate that.
[04:16:34] Okay?
[04:16:35] Yeah, sure.
[04:16:38] Maybe you're paying 50 extra bucks when you're buying groceries.
[04:16:42] Sure, maybe there will be some shortages.
[04:16:46] Maybe you can't go on that fucking trip, because now jet-fueled costs have also skyrocketed.
[04:16:53] But real patriots grind, and when you're grinding extra hard, when you're doing additional
[04:16:59] laps on the Uber, when you're working a second gig economy job, remind yourself that you
[04:17:08] are going through this process for the greatest nation on the planet.
[04:17:12] Not the United States of America, of course, that's the second greatest nation on the planet.
[04:17:17] The number one nation on the planet is real.
[04:17:20] Okay?
[04:17:21] So just remind yourself when you're putting in the laps, okay?
[04:17:28] When you're working hard, not hardly working, but working hard to make ends meet.
[04:17:35] Remind yourself that you're doing this for a higher fucking purpose.
[04:17:41] tell yourself, M is real high. This is a self soothing mantra for all the champions, for
[04:17:49] all the patriots around the world. Okay. Ben Rhodes markets absurdly disconnected from
[04:17:55] the vast majority of people. Traders place bets on currencies and all prices while people
[04:17:58] pay more for everything and fear losing jobs with AI that sustains the markets. Again,
[04:18:05] Ben Hamas Rhodes, not appreciative enough of Israel's military goals, which is the death
[04:18:15] and destruction of a country with thousands of years of history, culture, and also 93
[04:18:21] million people.
[04:18:22] Ben Hamas Rhodes doesn't appreciate that.
[04:18:24] We do.
[04:18:26] Here at the Hassanabi broadcast, we appreciate the finer things in life, like the nation
[04:18:31] state of Israel. Chocolate hummus made by Sabra and pizza which was also invented by Israel.
[04:18:40] That's right, tacos, another Israeli invention. I wake up every morning and I thank God.
[04:18:47] I thank God. Benjamin Nityahu, that's who my God is. I thank him. I have an altar dedicated to
[04:18:54] him and I thank to myself. Thank you for existing. Thank you for doing all the best things. I will
[04:19:00] work extra hard this month to make ends meet. And you should too.
[04:19:08] Perhaps the previous Supreme Leader was. I think to myself Israel, tiny nation, size
[04:19:12] of New Jersey. And I think maybe it should be the size of New Jersey plus, I don't know,
[04:19:18] maybe Pennsylvania, right? I mean, Israel, tiny nation, size of New Jersey, it's too
[04:19:23] tiny. It should be larger. That's what I think to myself.
[04:19:27] willing to take, for instance, attacking Iran's neighbors in the way they have done, be willing
[04:19:33] to escalate with the United States, and as one of the advisers to Moshtar al-Khamenei
[04:19:38] said, it's not an eye for an eye, it's an eye ahead, a hand, a neck.
[04:19:43] We sort of, if you provoke, will provoke even further.
[04:19:47] And so this is a very different approach than the previous Supreme Leader who responded to
[04:19:51] an American attack on Iran's nuclear facilities with a symbolic sending of missiles into Qatak.
[04:19:57] But at the same time, I think they've been willing to go further
[04:20:00] than perhaps the previous Supreme Leader was willing to go
[04:20:03] in terms of negotiating with the US.
[04:20:06] But domestically, the factions in Iran are still the same.
[04:20:10] The regime still has to manage its base,
[04:20:13] has to manage public opinion in Iran.
[04:20:15] It has asked Iranians, in particular, its own people
[04:20:18] to sacrifice enormously for this war.
[04:20:20] So when President Trump says, oh, Iran has already given up
[04:20:23] everything, given before there's a signature,
[04:20:25] It actually creates a crisis for them about how do they manage perceptions within Iran,
[04:20:31] which is quite significant.
[04:20:32] We're joined now by Democratic Congressman Roeke.
[04:20:35] What's really funny about this is that while we're having this conversation, here's what
[04:20:45] the European allies are apparently worried about according to Reuters.
[04:20:50] European allies fear an inexperienced US negotiating team is pushing for a swift headline-grabbing
[04:20:54] framework deal with Iran that could entrench rather than resolve deeper problems diplomats
[04:20:59] with past experience dealing with Tehran said. They worry Washington eager to claim a diplomatic
[04:21:04] win for President Donald Trump could lock in a superficial agreement on Iran's nuclear program
[04:21:08] and sanctions relief, then struggle through months or years of technically complex follow-on talks.
[04:21:14] The concern isn't that there won't be an agreement, said a senior European diplomat,
[04:21:17] one of eight who spoke to Reuters who have previously worked on nuclear file,
[04:21:21] Or continue to do so. It's that there will be a bad initial agreement that creates endless downstream problems
[04:21:26] European cucks are out here being like oh the agreement will be too sweet
[04:21:31] For iran that's what we are worried about here
[04:21:37] That that uh, you know
[04:21:39] They'll deliver something uh for iran that's too good and we don't want that it's like okay, man. Well enjoy fucking
[04:21:45] seven million dollar barrels of oil. Okay, fuck it. Like, what am I supposed to say to
[04:21:51] this?
[04:21:52] When I hear stuff like this, and I don't think this is like the perspective shared by many
[04:21:56] in Europe, okay? But like, when I hear anyone that is involved in any way, shape or form
[04:22:04] within the EU bureaucracy, the bureaucratic structure that still operates as some of the
[04:22:11] most loyal servants of America and therefore Israel, I think to myself, your people should
[04:22:17] depose of you. Like your people should, should, you know, tar and feather your ass. What the
[04:22:24] fuck are you saying? It's unbelievable. None of them asked for this. You are refusing to
[04:22:33] see the the worst outcomes here for some fucking weird reason
[04:22:40] It's just like this is pure madness, dude. You only arrive at positions like this if you
[04:22:47] If you're just like an insane person your your primary focus here is just
[04:22:54] America and israel's goals like achieving those goals no matter who suffers as a consequence
[04:22:59] European natural gas futures surging in early Asian trading, European gas rises as much as 9.8 percent.
[04:23:05] Benchmark futures rose as much as 11 percent. Brent oil jumps 7.3 percent to 96.94 per barrel.
[04:23:13] We're going to go across the $100 line again.
[04:23:17] It reminds me of the people that always say that are American,
[04:23:25] But many of them are also NATO enjoyers on the timeline that live in European countries that always say oh
[04:23:32] The Houthis are gonna find out why we don't have health care. It's like bitch you live in France
[04:23:37] What the fuck do you mean? You already have health care. You're larping is an American who doesn't have health care, okay?
[04:23:43] That's unbelievable. That's number one. Okay number two
[04:23:47] If you're an American who's saying like oh, you're gonna find out what we don't have health care like dude
[04:23:53] You don't have health care
[04:23:55] Shouldn't you be more mad about that? Who gives a fuck if we're able to like militarily dominate the Houthis?
[04:24:01] Which ironically enough we are turns out not capable of doing that anyway
[04:24:05] And we're certainly not capable of doing that to the RGC as we found out in operation Epstein's epic fortnight fail
[04:24:14] So what are we doing this for I?
[04:24:19] Just don't understand it
[04:24:21] It's exercise and futility and exercise and belligerence
[04:24:25] It makes no damn sense.
[04:24:29] Conna of California, thank you for being here. Really. It's good to be here. So I know you've obviously been adamantly opposed to this war in the first place. What do you make of this latest development though? Another round of peace talks?
[04:24:43] Well, they said they want to escalate to deescalate. They've escalated to devastation. I mean, you have the pulp lecturing America about possible war crimes.
[04:24:54] You have the president, as you pointed out, threatening to destroy all power plants.
[04:24:59] I didn't think we would ever get to that point.
[04:25:01] You have the Strait of Hormuz that is now blocked.
[04:25:03] This never happened before the war.
[04:25:05] What have we achieved?
[04:25:06] Gas is up from $2.30 to $4.00.
[04:25:10] You have now Iran having a more hardline regime, as we just heard, and all our allies, like
[04:25:15] UAE, being hit.
[04:25:16] I mean, we've created devastation, and we're being lectured by the Pope.
[04:25:20] But let me ask you, you've called the war, I think I have this correct, the biggest
[04:25:26] blunder in American foreign policy in the 21st century.
[04:25:31] If this gets to a resolution, I mean if they actually, and I know that's a big if, but if
[04:25:37] they actually get to a resolution where Iran has given up its nuclear program and there
[04:25:43] is a peace deal, maybe even a peace deal with Lebanon, are you prepared to revise that and
[04:25:48] say that they actually got something out of it, and it wasn't a blunder? If we actually
[04:25:52] achieve something, but the enriched uranium is still there, we have a more hard-line
[04:25:56] regime there. Cominay Jr. actually wants to develop nuclear weapons. Does anyone believe
[04:26:01] that we actually have more leverage of this state of promos? We have less. China has more
[04:26:05] influence in Iran, and we've lost our entire moral credibility. We have a president of
[04:26:11] the United States threatening to wipe out Iranian civilization, and people think it's
[04:26:15] normal. And then you have a situation where our troops are at risk with a president who
[04:26:20] campaigned on peace is spending now $400 billion to spend more money on these words. Why aren't
[04:26:27] we spending that on health care here jobs here child care here? Why aren't we addressing the
[04:26:31] needs of the American people on team America? He seems to be more obsessed. What does role look
[04:26:36] younger bro? Every day that he spends on mainstream media shitting on Israel and demanding that
[04:26:43] America, uh, truly engage in a more isolationist framework is a day where he just reverse ages.
[04:26:49] I swear to God. Yeah, he's just, he's capturing all the power, dude.
[04:26:55] It's with the Middle East. He's doing it.
[04:26:57] I'm gonna ask you about Israel. You were one of 40, 40. I mean, you're not in the Senate,
[04:27:02] but there were 40 Senate Democrats who voted to halt, uh, the, the, uh,
[04:27:07] of sell military equipment to Israel,
[04:27:09] something you agreed with clearly.
[04:27:12] Is the Democratic Party no longer a pro Israeli party?
[04:27:17] We're a party that believes in two states in peace,
[04:27:20] but let me tell you what we're not for.
[04:27:21] We're not for aid to Israel.
[04:27:22] They've got a 45 billion defense budget.
[04:27:25] Why are we giving them money?
[04:27:27] Why aren't we providing it for healthcare here?
[04:27:29] Why aren't we providing it for childcare here?
[04:27:31] By the way, that's not just an issue
[04:27:32] in the Democratic Party.
[04:27:33] You look at Republican voters under 50,
[04:27:36] they agree with me.
[04:27:37] And then you look at what the devastation was in Gaza.
[04:27:40] Why aren't we doing the Arab peace plan,
[04:27:42] which by the way, the UAE Foreign Minister
[04:27:45] has supported of two states.
[04:27:47] You have a Palestinian state, which
[04:27:50] is demilitarized and an Israeli state.
[04:27:52] That's what we are for.
[04:27:53] We should be for peace.
[04:27:54] And we should be for justice in that region.
[04:27:57] But that seemed to be a big moment
[04:27:59] to see the vast majority of Democrats in the Senate
[04:28:02] say no more military sales right now to Israel.
[04:28:06] Well, what they said is no more bulldozers
[04:28:08] that are destroying Palestinian villages.
[04:28:10] It's unjust.
[04:28:12] I mean, the young people in this country,
[04:28:13] when I met Netanyahu years ago, I said to him,
[04:28:17] Mr. Prime Minister, you may have won the battle.
[04:28:19] You've lost the war
[04:28:20] because you've lost the next generation in America.
[04:28:23] We don't think you're acting morally.
[04:28:25] We have a sense that people in Palestine,
[04:28:27] they deserve justice, they deserve a state.
[04:28:29] And yes, we need to have a secure Israel,
[04:28:32] but not an Israel led by Netanyahu
[04:28:34] who killed 70,000 people in Gaza.
[04:28:37] Not in Israel that is going to be raining bombs in Beirut
[04:28:40] and not a prime minister sitting in our situation room.
[04:28:43] Let me tell you what a democratic president
[04:28:45] is never gonna do.
[04:28:46] An Israeli prime minister is not gonna be sitting
[04:28:48] in our situation room telling the American president
[04:28:50] what to do.
[04:28:51] Only Americans will be in that situation room.
[04:28:54] You went further than even most of your democratic
[04:28:57] colleagues, you called for a stop of funding
[04:29:01] for defensive weapons to Iran, including Iron Dome, which is something you had supported.
[04:29:06] Remember, you and I spoke about it on this show not all that long ago.
[04:29:10] You said it was something that protected not just Israelis, but also Palestinians.
[04:29:13] I am for the Iron Dome technology.
[04:29:15] I'm glad UAE has it.
[04:29:16] I'm glad Israel has it.
[04:29:17] But you don't think that we should give it to Israelis?
[04:29:19] Why?
[04:29:20] Why can't they afford it with $45 billion?
[04:29:22] Even Rahm Emanuel agrees with me.
[04:29:24] I mean, why are we subsidizing one of the richest countries in the world?
[04:29:27] They have healthcare for all their people.
[04:29:29] Why aren't we putting that money in our communities for our jobs?
[04:29:32] Do I want them to have Iron Dome?
[04:29:34] Absolutely.
[04:29:35] I want any country to have Iron Dome to protect their citizens, but the free ride is over.
[04:29:40] They're not going to be getting American tax starts, and they're certainly not going
[04:29:44] to be dictating to the American president.
[04:29:46] The American president will call the shots.
[04:29:48] And very quickly, it's an election year in Israel.
[04:29:51] If Netanyahu is removed and he faces a tough reelection battle, new leader in Israel, does
[04:29:58] that change your view on this?
[04:29:59] It doesn't change my view on aid, it does change my view about how we will cooperate or not.
[04:30:04] I mean, they should recognize that this relationship is going to depend on them fighting for justice,
[04:30:10] recognizing the Palestinians, they're working towards peace,
[04:30:13] and actually not insulting the American public and the American president.
[04:30:17] I mean, the American people understand that we have gotten into wars in the Middle East,
[04:30:23] they're tired of it, they're tired of our money going there, they want us to focus on the economy here at home.
[04:30:28] All right, congressman Ro Khanna. I really appreciate your time. Thank you mayor. I'm Donnie. Welcome back to meet the press
[04:30:34] Thank you for having
[04:30:36] Bro, I can't believe meet the press
[04:30:38] Wait, was it meet the press last week shitting on me?
[04:30:43] It was meet the press last week, right
[04:30:50] What a time to be alive man, what a time to fucking be alive
[04:30:54] I mean, it's a pleasure to be back.
[04:30:58] Well, it's wonderful to have you here to talk about it.
[04:31:00] Last week they have Rokana on to be like, why do you like Hassan Piker?
[04:31:04] Or no, not last week, two weeks ago.
[04:31:06] They were like, why do you like Hassan Piker?
[04:31:08] Shouldn't we kill him?
[04:31:10] Two weeks later, they're like, Zoramumdani, you are the best politician in the country.
[04:31:21] It was everyone. Yeah, that's true. No, not different journalists. It was her. She was
[04:31:33] the one who was yelling it. Before we can move on, can you highlight how AOC take about
[04:31:41] defensive is better? I mean, I don't want to just stop giving money to Israel so they
[04:31:47] can buy defensive weapons. I want to do a embargo on Israel. And I don't want to stop
[04:31:52] it in embargo on Israel. I want to punish Israel. I want accountability for Israel's
[04:31:58] crimes. I want accountability for what Israel has caused America to do as well. Okay. That's
[04:32:05] what I want. Any politician that moves the conversation in that direction is good up
[04:32:11] in my book.
[04:32:12] your first 100 days in office. We really appreciate it.
[04:32:14] I doubt that she's going to be kind to Zohran because it's meet the press.
[04:32:20] Appreciate the opportunity and there is a lot to cover. So let's dive right in. Let's start big
[04:32:25] picture. You came into office. You made sweeping promises on the campaign trail. I'll name a few
[04:32:32] freezing the rent, free and fast buses, universal childcare. Here we are.
[04:32:37] It's been a hundred days in and you've done what? Fucking three out of five. Like pretty good. I think
[04:32:46] Why are you a piece of shit?
[04:32:49] Why only three out of five? Why not five out of five is like a standard?
[04:32:53] They will never hold a normal centrist democrat too, by the way
[04:32:58] Normal senators democrats come in
[04:33:00] With why comprehensive agendas never achieving a single piece of that
[04:33:04] But that's by design because they know this interest of our customers are not supposed to accomplish those genders
[04:33:09] 100 days in to your tenure as mayor. Are you still confident you can deliver on all of your promises that you made to New Yorkers?
[04:33:17] Yes, I am I'm confident of that because of what we've seen over this hundred days on day eight
[04:33:22] We announced a 1.2 billion dollar agreement with Governor Kathy Huckle to put our city on the pathway to universal child care
[04:33:29] We are not only providing free child care for every three-year-old in the city, we're
[04:33:33] now doing it for two-year-olds as well.
[04:33:35] By the end of our first term, we will see every single two-year-old receiving free child
[04:33:40] care across the fibers of New York City.
[04:33:43] And we're going to talk about child care and a number of your other policies.
[04:33:47] You're also facing a $5.4 billion budget shortfall.
[04:33:52] You are required by law to balance the budget.
[04:33:55] Are you confident you can accomplish all of the promises that you made?
[04:33:59] in your first term in one term.
[04:34:01] So I've always said that we would accomplish
[04:34:03] all of these promises by the time that I'm done
[04:34:05] being the mayor, I'm fully confident
[04:34:06] of doing exactly that.
[04:34:08] And as you said, we inherited the largest fiscal crisis
[04:34:11] that the city has seen since the Great Recession.
[04:34:14] Frankly, this dwarfs even that.
[04:34:15] When we first came into office,
[04:34:17] we were looking at $12 billion.
[04:34:18] And thanks to the work that we did,
[04:34:20] the savings, the allocations of our reserves,
[04:34:23] the commitment from the governor,
[04:34:25] we were able to bring that down to $5.4 billion.
[04:34:28] now what we're seeing is the importance of not just finalizing the city budget process
[04:34:32] but the state budget process. And we're actually just a day from the moment when the governor
[04:34:37] announced that we will be pursuing a pitotter tax, which will be a tax on the properties
[04:34:43] of the wealthiest of the wealthy. And we're so excited to be working with her on exactly
[04:34:47] that because it will raise half a billion dollars for New York City and it will do so
[04:34:52] on an annual basis.
[04:34:53] And we are going to get to taxes momentarily, but do you think you can accomplish all of
[04:34:59] your promises to New Yorkers, or do you think you would need a second term in order to promise
[04:35:04] and achieve the sweeping promises you made?
[04:35:06] Can I just knock on wood over here for the second term?
[04:35:09] But look, I've said time and again that when I was running for mayor, New Yorkers would
[04:35:14] come up to me, they would say one of three things typically, they were talking about
[04:35:18] freezing the rent, making buses fast and free, delivering universal childcare.
[04:35:22] In this first hundred days, we had six vacancies on the rent guidelines board that determines
[04:35:27] whether or not that decision will be made.
[04:35:28] We filled all six of them.
[04:35:29] They're an independent board.
[04:35:31] They'll make their decision this summer.
[04:35:32] When it comes to universal childcare, we talked about the 1.2 billion.
[04:35:35] When it comes to making our buses fast and free, we're already delivering on the fast.
[04:35:39] We're speeding up buses from more than a million New Yorkers, putting back up to six
[04:35:44] minutes back into their lives each trip.
[04:35:46] And we're doing this because we currently have the slowest buses in the United States
[04:35:49] of America.
[04:35:50] working with Albany to make those buses free. And we're confident by the time that we are
[04:35:54] done with our administration, we will have delivered on these three central promises.
[04:35:58] You got the fast part for the buses, the free part. What specifically do you think you will
[04:36:02] have accomplished by the end of this first year?
[04:36:08] Wow.
[04:36:10] Remember what I said, anytime they got a, anytime they got a left candidate, they did
[04:36:23] this with Bernie too.
[04:36:26] They never asked questions to Joe Biden about how we're going to pay for unlimited war,
[04:36:31] but they always would be like, how are we going to pay for Medicare for all?
[04:36:34] How dare you suggest Medicare for all?
[04:36:36] a ridiculous dream. We're back at it again, folks.
[04:36:48] mainstream media used to behave like this with Trump too. They would remember that they're
[04:36:54] capable of engaging in adversarial reporting. Now, of course, a little bit of adversarial
[04:37:01] reporting is good. But if you ask the same question over and over again, three, four
[04:37:06] times in a row, then you're not engaging in adversarial reporting. You're just being fucking
[04:37:10] annoying. Like he has, unlike many electeds, a fairly solid track record thus far in the
[04:37:21] first 100 days. Okay.
[04:37:28] I find it very strange that they are this critical of a guy who is successful and popular
[04:37:36] for good reason.
[04:37:37] By the end of this first year, what we're going to see is us delivering these 2000 free
[04:37:42] childcare for two year olds across New York city.
[04:37:44] It's going to be 12,000 by the end of next year, every single two year old by the end
[04:37:48] of four years.
[04:37:49] When it comes to our buses, we will have sped up the process for buses for more than a million
[04:37:54] New Yorkers.
[04:37:55] is 20% increases in speed across 45 priority corridors.
[04:38:00] But buses won't be free by the end of your first...
[04:38:03] We're working with Albany right now,
[04:38:05] and we're still confident that there is a part of this budget
[04:38:07] that could start that process of making buses free.
[04:38:10] We have one bus route free in New York City right now.
[04:38:12] We're excited at the prospect of building that out
[04:38:15] before we deliver it for every bus route.
[04:38:16] And just to be very clear, to put a fine point on this,
[04:38:19] I don't hear you committing to being able to accomplish everything.
[04:38:22] Oh, my God!
[04:38:25] Oh my god
[04:38:31] Uh just to put a finer point on this you're a fucking loser
[04:38:36] Can you say i'm a can you look at the camera right there?
[04:38:40] And say eyes are on kwame mum donnie. I'm a fucking loser
[04:38:45] Please i really need this clip for my career. I just i need you to say this
[04:38:50] Just to put a finer point on this you fucking suck right like you recognize that you suck, right?
[04:38:55] But I know you've told me that you've actually achieved many of the objectives you set out
[04:39:02] to do in a way that is actually truly unique to most American politics.
[04:39:08] And the people love you for that reason.
[04:39:11] But can you just turn around to the camera and say you're evil?
[04:39:18] Can you please turn around to the camera and say you are evil and are going to do Islamic
[04:39:22] style Sharia law. Just give me something, Zaron. It's crazy, man. What if she's just
[04:39:40] excited for the free buses? Yeah, that lady has not taken a bus in the last 20 years.
[04:39:47] Okay.
[04:39:48] With one term.
[04:39:49] I've always been hopeful of getting two terms.
[04:39:51] So that I've always said to New Yorkers
[04:39:54] that we would accomplish everything
[04:39:55] with however much time that we get.
[04:39:57] Days ago, you announced that your first of five
[04:40:00] planned free government run grocery stores
[04:40:03] will open next year in East Harlem.
[04:40:06] In response, grocery store magnate, John Castamatidi says,
[04:40:10] he can't compete with city run grocery stores
[04:40:13] selling food for free.
[04:40:15] If private grocers start closing because of your policy,
[04:40:19] will you-
[04:40:20] That's awesome.
[04:40:23] Hey, I know you want to engage in price adjustments
[04:40:26] for some of the poorest residents in the city
[04:40:29] and do your very best to offer competitive rates.
[04:40:36] Why do you want to kill every grocery store magnate
[04:40:40] with a gun that you stole from the NYPD.
[04:40:45] Why?
[04:40:46] How many grocery store magnates do you have to murder
[04:40:51] in cold blood until your appetite for blood lust
[04:40:55] is satiated?
[04:41:03] It's ridiculous.
[04:41:06] He's the motherfucking mayor, man.
[04:41:09] He's the mayor. His job is to offer things to the people that voted for him.
[04:41:17] First, they were like, Hey,
[04:41:22] some of the things you said you were going to do,
[04:41:24] you haven't been able to accomplish yet in the first 100 days.
[04:41:28] Now she's like,
[04:41:29] what if the things you accomplish are actually horrible for big business owners?
[04:41:34] Have you thought about that?
[04:41:35] Your policy has been a failure or do you simply see that as the cost of achieving your grocery store?
[04:41:43] I like that this question also implies, once again, a hypothetical that was designed by a fucking capital owner who's in a competitive market.
[04:41:57] What is that's not a question you just you just decided to take for fucking granted what the the grocery store Magnate is saying
[04:42:10] Hey this guy who might actually have you know diminishing
[04:42:16] profit rates
[04:42:17] diminishing profit margins is a consequence of like your
[04:42:21] affordable grocery
[04:42:23] idea is saying you want to kill him with a gun. If you kill him with a gun at the end
[04:42:30] of this process, like he claims you are doing, will you feel like that's awesome? Will you
[04:42:35] stand on top of his corpse and say, this is a war that we're waging against the capital
[04:42:40] owning class? Or will you stand down and refuse to kill the rest of the capital owners in
[04:42:45] the grocery business?
[04:42:47] So Ramamgani, why do you want to kill every billionaire and milleader in the United States
[04:42:52] America. Zoran Mondani, why do you want to spit on the faces of every millionaire that has made
[04:42:59] this beautiful city the greatest city on the planet? So I just want to correct you on one thing.
[04:43:04] These are not free groceries. These are cheaper groceries. We've always said that we would have
[04:43:09] one city run grocery store in each borough and they would provide cheaper groceries and we're
[04:43:13] going to do that by guaranteeing it through a basket of essential items, the kinds of things
[04:43:18] that New Yorkers need from their grocery store, but they haven't been able to budget forward.
[04:43:22] talking about bread and eggs, the staples that have been skyrocketing. Now I know that, you know,
[04:43:27] grocery prices have been increasing across the- Zoramum Dhani, have you ever thought about people
[04:43:34] being able to purchase eggs at a cheaper rate, causing them to get fatter? Why do you want Americans
[04:43:41] to be obese and die? Zoramum Dhani, the number one death for average Americans is heart disease.
[04:43:49] Don't you feel like allowing them to eat more eggs in their diet would cause them to accelerate
[04:43:55] the likelihood of them getting heart disease?
[04:43:59] Why do you wanna kill Americans, Zoran Kwame, Mumdani?
[04:44:02] The country, but they've been increasing at an even higher rate in New York City.
[04:44:06] Our goal here is to deliver cheaper groceries to New Yorkers.
[04:44:10] That's what we want the outcome to be.
[04:44:12] John is someone that I've had the pleasure of getting to know, someone who's been a big
[04:44:15] part of New York City life. And I'm excited to be delivering this. And even as we may have
[04:44:20] some disagreements to still looking to serve New Yorkers across the five.
[04:44:23] If John Castametti so closes some of his stores, will that be a failure?
[04:44:28] Yeah. Here's the response to this, by the way. First of all, can you guys believe how much
[04:44:34] Zorn wants to kill every single New Yorker? Have you noticed that behind that smile as he narrows
[04:44:40] is gays. He Islamically is actually salivating at the prospect of murdering white Christians.
[04:44:47] Have you guys noticed that? And of course, Jewish New Yorkers as well, obviously, because
[04:44:52] I noticed that I'm glad that other people are picking up on it too. Very dangerous guy.
[04:44:58] Okay. Yeah, she keeps asking the same questions in different ways. Have you failed it? When
[04:45:04] do you fail? How long until you fail? Will you fail within one term or two? When you
[04:45:07] fail, we disappoint the people who supported you. Do you want to fail or do you want to
[04:45:11] fail harder? Imagine if they held other politicians this accountable. Ooh, someone's annoyed that
[04:45:18] they didn't get the, they didn't get mum down any trip. All media channels are just there
[04:45:22] to fight for the billionaires. I have not seen this much media scrutiny on previous
[04:45:26] Marys in New York City. Amazing how she can ask the same question all different ways.
[04:45:31] No, what they failed to write here, which is, you know, most of the questions they nailed
[04:45:36] There's also one question which was really awesome. If you succeed, don't you feel like others will fail?
[04:45:44] Because like she went have you failed yet? When will you fail?
[04:45:47] How long until you fail? Will you fail in one term or two?
[04:45:51] Will you disappoint the people when you fail and also in a hypothetical where you do succeed?
[04:45:56] Don't you think others will fail because of your success and at what cost will your success come?
[04:46:06] Unbelievable.
[04:46:13] On your part. How would you see that? I will leave John's business decisions to John, but
[04:46:21] what I will tell you is that we're talking about five groceries.
[04:46:24] The answer to this is simple. John cast the metataser, whatever the fuck his name is literally
[04:46:29] said, if I Zoran Kwame, I'm down and became mayor, he was going to close up shop anyway.
[04:46:35] Well, guess what he did after I became mayor?
[04:46:38] He came and we had a meeting and we had a very cordial meeting, okay?
[04:46:42] He's a part of New York.
[04:46:44] He's a part of the identity of the city and I hope to keep him here.
[04:46:48] And it seems like he's excited to stay in the city as opposed to what he said prior.
[04:46:58] That's what happened.
[04:46:59] He literally went and did a meeting with Zoram Mdani.
[04:47:04] He didn't actually close up shop like he claimed he would.
[04:47:07] And none of the ultra Zionists who claimed that like once Zoramum, Donny would become
[04:47:13] mayor that like every Jewish person, there would be a pogrom akin to like Eastern European
[04:47:18] style pogroms.
[04:47:19] None of that happened.
[04:47:21] And nobody actually moved out of the city either.
[04:47:24] So it turns out everyone was fucking lying and being hysterical.
[04:47:28] Why are we entertaining this hysterical psychos stories in a city that has more than a thousand
[04:47:33] And just to be very clear, we're saying some of these items will be cheaper than the essentials,
[04:47:38] but not necessarily all.
[04:47:39] We're talking about the basket of essentials.
[04:47:41] We're talking about the items that New Yorkers plan their lives around, that right now they've
[04:47:45] been getting.
[04:47:46] Some of your critics have said that not only have you associated yourself with a streamer
[04:47:50] that says America deserve 9-11, but that you might actually be responsible for 9-11 too.
[04:47:56] Zoram, I'm down here.
[04:47:57] stare at the camera and say, assure New Yorkers, uh, that are not experiencing a, a psychotic,
[04:48:03] racialized hallucinogenic episode, that you will not be responsible for 9-11-2.
[04:48:08] And if 9-11-2 happens, you will not celebrate it.
[04:48:15] Getting priced out of, that's what we're going to deliver. And we're so excited because the
[04:48:18] first city-run store- Mayor Ramamnani, can you please resign? Yeah.
[04:48:23] Mayor Ramdani, resign please.
[04:48:28] Mayor Ramdani, those who are going to resign right now says what?
[04:48:33] You say what right now, you'll resign.
[04:48:37] Come on, just say what?
[04:48:39] Say I'll resign.
[04:48:41] Mayor Ramdani, please sign this contract without reading it.
[04:48:47] Don't look at the contract.
[04:48:48] No, it doesn't say I'm resigning from my official duties.
[04:48:52] You just don't know that's a,
[04:48:55] that we announced it's at La Marqueta in El Barrio in East Harlem,
[04:48:59] which is actually the same place that Fiora La Guardia opened a market for
[04:49:04] fruits and vegetables at lower costs to New Yorkers back in 1936.
[04:49:08] We're continuing that legacy by delivering on something that frankly is a non
[04:49:12] negotiable. It's food.
[04:49:14] Let's talk about how you're going to pay for all of this. You've worked with
[04:49:17] a governor. Oh, here we go. Here we go.
[04:49:20] Never a question reserved for centrist Democrats, when it comes to, or right-wingers, when it
[04:49:26] comes to waging wars, obviously he's the mayor.
[04:49:29] So the mayor equivalent would be, never a question for how will you pay for the police
[04:49:34] force and the eight submarines that they currently have in the New York police department.
[04:49:41] Always a question for feeding the poor.
[04:49:43] Just remember, the New York police department has submarines, okay?
[04:49:48] The New York police department also pays an unlimited amount of, I mean, billions of
[04:49:53] dollars almost, not billions, but like tens of millions of dollars a year in liability
[04:49:58] claims because, you know, their officers are beating the fuck out of people, right?
[04:50:03] The New York police department has bases in Tel Aviv.
[04:50:05] We have already talked about that too.
[04:50:07] This is never up.
[04:50:10] This is never a question.
[04:50:11] As a matter of fact, when someone says we are going to defund the police or we're going
[04:50:14] limit the budget of the police, people go, why do you want people to be raped on the subway
[04:50:20] stations? Why do you want every American to be raped and lit on fire by vagrants at every subway
[04:50:27] station? Do you want every American to die? Just something to consider. These sorts of questions
[04:50:39] These sorts of questions are never asked in the direction of these, these sorts of questions
[04:50:44] are never asked about, you know, limiting the budget of the, the New York police department.
[04:50:51] These sorts of questions are always asked when you want to feed the poor.
[04:50:56] You want to clothe the poor, feed the hungry, you know, offer shelter, that sort of stuff.
[04:51:01] Kathy Hockel to get some of the starting blocks in place for universal childcare, for example,
[04:51:07] you referenced, when can New Yorkers expect to see full universal child care? What's the timeline
[04:51:14] for that? They will see full universal child care for two-year-olds by the end of the first term,
[04:51:18] and then in the second term we would pursue fulfilling that for one-year-olds and those from
[04:51:23] six weeks and above. We've always said over the course of the campaign we would deliver it for
[04:51:27] New Yorkers from the ages of six weeks to five years. What we started in these first hundred
[04:51:32] days was fixing the system for three-year-olds. We've delivered on that. We're rolling that out
[04:51:36] right now and then starting to deliver it for the first time in history for two
[04:51:40] year olds. And I just want to go back to sometimes this feels like, you know,
[04:51:44] just checking off a box on a list that did we do something that we talked
[04:51:47] about. The importance of doing this is also because of what it means for
[04:51:50] New Yorkers. We're talking about $20,000 a year that a family won't have to
[04:51:55] shell out for childcare any longer because they know they can afford to
[04:51:58] raise their kid in the city they love. And you still don't, you have a group
[04:52:02] with Governor Hockel on that. You don't have an agreement with Governor Hockel
[04:52:05] on raising taxes on the wealthy yet.
[04:52:08] Will you be able to deliver on your promise
[04:52:10] of taxing the wealthy to help pay for your programs?
[04:52:15] Absolutely, and I'm actually happy to tell you
[04:52:17] that that Piedotaire tax,
[04:52:18] that is an agreement that we have to tax the wealthy,
[04:52:21] because again, when we're talking about a Piedotaire,
[04:52:23] this is a home that is owned here in New York City,
[04:52:26] by someone who doesn't live in New York City,
[04:52:28] and we're talking about the valuation of which
[04:52:31] is the super rich, not just of this country,
[04:52:33] but across the world.
[04:52:34] I was just yesterday standing in front of 220 Central Park West. And there at the penthouse
[04:52:40] was a home that Ken Griffin had bought for $238 million.
[04:52:45] So Ramamdani, don't you feel like you put a, you put a cross hairs on a beloved tax
[04:52:50] paying citizen of the United States of America and also New York city, Ken Griffin. Why do
[04:52:56] you want to kill him?
[04:52:57] So Ramamdani, why did you show his second vacant property in New York? Do you want him
[04:53:04] to die tomorrow, or do you want him to die yesterday? Objective news reporting
[04:53:10] here. This is the kind of real estate activity that's happening in the city.
[04:53:14] Homes that are largely empty for much of the year, but it all occurs while
[04:53:18] New Yorkers are hurting in this same city. We're starting to actually bridge that gap.
[04:53:22] I'm so excited to be working with the governor on it. And yet, is the
[04:53:26] Pied-A-Tare tax and acknowledgment that you can't get a broader tax on the wealthy.
[04:53:35] Oh my god!
[04:53:45] She's hitting every left note possible here.
[04:53:48] It's so funny. It's funny because Zoran will go to like left-adjacent, left-leaning independent
[04:54:01] media and they'll glaze the fuck out of him, right? And then he goes on Meet the Press
[04:54:07] and Meet the Press is like, why have you not destroyed the commodity form yet? Why have
[04:54:14] have you not seized the means of production? Aren't you a democratic socialist? There are
[04:54:21] still factories engaging in the process of exploitation, something you should not be in
[04:54:27] favor of. Why have you not seized control over the factory floor, Zoram Amdani? Zoram
[04:54:35] Amdani, why have you not achieved communism in New York City yet?
[04:54:40] Yeah. Why does private property still exist in New York City? Aren't you a fucking communist?
[04:54:50] It's just funny to see the, like, whenever, whenever you have, like, a leftist, uh, that
[04:55:00] is pragmatic, that has to, like, move within the confines of what is acceptable, what's
[04:55:06] permissible in modern American politics. These guys will turn around and do the same
[04:55:14] shit that many do to me as well, right? Where it's just like, either I'm getting hit with
[04:55:20] the hypocrisy beam or I'm constantly getting yelled at for not doing a revolution now.
[04:55:27] Like as though I find that to be achievable in this current moment.
[04:55:33] There are no commissars in the street. Why not?
[04:55:36] You're just jealous that the press has doubled the standards you have?
[04:55:44] Yeah, exactly.
[04:55:46] They have not one set of standards, but two.
[04:55:49] It's true.
[04:55:50] Which is what you promised and how you said you would pay for all of these programs.
[04:55:53] I always said that I had believed in the importance of taxing the rich.
[04:55:57] This is taxing the rich.
[04:55:58] And I said that the two ways that I thought were the most straightforward of doing so,
[04:56:02] personal income tax, corporate tax, those were the two ways that I thought we could
[04:56:06] to achieve it in the most straightforward manner.
[04:56:08] Part of that is a reflection of the fact
[04:56:09] that a peter-terre tax has been something
[04:56:12] that has long been fought for in the city,
[04:56:14] but hasn't been possible to get over the finish line.
[04:56:16] It's been really exciting to work with the governor
[04:56:17] to win something that many thought
[04:56:20] would never have a chance.
[04:56:21] Why did you float raising property taxes,
[04:56:24] which typically fall heavily on the middle class as well?
[04:56:30] Oh my God.
[04:56:33] Oh my God.
[04:56:36] Incredible.
[04:56:41] So in New York City, as you said earlier, we have a legal obligation.
[04:56:45] Let's turn it off.
[04:56:46] We have three moments where we come forward with the budget, preliminary budget and executive
[04:56:50] budget and then the adopted budget, the final one, the preliminary budget on February 17th.
[04:56:55] We had to both tell New Yorkers about not just the level of our fiscal deficit, but
[04:56:59] what was still left to fill 5.4 billion, as you said.
[04:57:02] Now, I can't put forward an accounting statement and just say, 5.4 billion, we hope to find
[04:57:06] a way working with the state.
[04:57:08] That's the truth.
[04:57:09] But in terms of what you have to put in your budget, you have to use the tools the city
[04:57:13] has to fill it in, in the interim.
[04:57:16] And so in the interim, what we did was the only tools we had at our disposal, a property
[04:57:20] tax and rating of our reserves.
[04:57:22] But I made very clear on that day and every day since, it is a last resort because what
[04:57:26] we want to pursue, what we will spend every day looking to pursue is working with Albany,
[04:57:31] working with the governor, legislative leaders.
[04:57:33] And frankly, we're already seeing the fruits of that work.
[04:57:35] This Piedotair tax is one example
[04:57:38] of how we're reducing that deficit
[04:57:39] and not doing so on the backs of working class New Yorkers.
[04:57:42] You're calling a property tax a last resort.
[04:57:45] Are you backing away from it?
[04:57:48] Have you all but abandoned your push for a property tax
[04:57:52] because there was backlash?
[04:57:53] No, I'm just quoting myself from February 17th,
[04:57:56] the very day that I introduced our preliminary budget.
[04:57:59] I said, then and there.
[04:58:00] I do not want to do this.
[04:58:02] And the truth of it is because it's a broken system.
[04:58:04] I'm not gonna lie, it does give me a little bit of pleasure
[04:58:07] seeing that this is just not a thing
[04:58:11] that I have to fucking deal with.
[04:58:12] It's like, if you're in a position of power,
[04:58:15] actually in a position of power,
[04:58:17] they treat you the same exact way.
[04:58:19] If you're even in any way, shape, or form
[04:58:22] to the left of what is considered appropriate.
[04:58:25] Like, the quoting yourself part of this conversation is what I guess every leftist, even if they're
[04:58:35] a fucking political commentator or a mayor or a senator, hopefully, inshallah, will have
[04:58:40] to engage in all the time, which is like, I'm just telling you what I said back then,
[04:58:44] Because you're leaving important context.
[04:58:51] You're leaving important context in this line of questioning.
[04:59:03] If this is happening to you on live TV, you'd be bludgeoning her like you verbally do with us?
[04:59:07] Well, yeah, because I don't have to play nice with members of the media, whereas he does.
[04:59:13] is a system far more regressive than what we want to do which is progressive
[04:59:18] taxation. So a property tax increasing property taxes is still on the table. We
[04:59:24] are continuing to work with Albany to ensure that that is not the path that
[04:59:28] we go down. We're seeing in the Piedotère tax we're already finding
[04:59:32] notes of encouragement that show us a different kind of path. This state
[04:59:36] budget we hope will be finalized by the end of this month and then when we put
[04:59:40] forward, our executive budget will be able to update what tools the city has.
[04:59:44] When you talk to New Yorkers, they say they feel like they're already overtaxed.
[04:59:49] What do you say to middle class New Yorkers who are worried some of these
[04:59:53] taxes could wind up impacting them? I tell them unless they make more than a
[04:59:58] million dollars a year or own some of those profitable corporations in our
[05:00:01] city or have a second home that's worth more than five million dollars, then
[05:00:05] these are not taxes that apply to them. And what I've sought to make this city
[05:00:09] the most expensive in the United States of America,
[05:00:11] is one that's affordable for the people
[05:00:13] who have been priced out of it.
[05:00:14] And that's why I have fought for a vision
[05:00:17] that looks to ask those with the most
[05:00:19] to pay that little bit more so that everyone can live here.
[05:00:22] And when I talked to you several months ago,
[05:00:24] I asked you about your push to increase income taxes.
[05:00:28] You expressed confidence you would ultimately
[05:00:30] be able to reach an agreement with Governor Huckle.
[05:00:33] Where does that stand?
[05:00:34] Do you have any confidence that she will
[05:00:36] see eye to eye with you at some point on increasing income taxes.
[05:00:40] Well, I have to say that I am really glad at the relationship that the governor and I have developed.
[05:00:45] I wish it wasn't so unique because relationships in the past between mayors and governors have not been this productive,
[05:00:51] frankly, for the city. And what we're seeing in that relationship is a commitment to this city.
[05:00:56] And when I spoke to you about the importance of personal income tax for a million dollars or more or corporate tax for the top tier
[05:01:02] profitability. It was all grounded in the belief that we had to tax the wealthiest
[05:01:06] among us to deliver for everyone. This Piedotera tax, it is a clear illustration
[05:01:11] of that belief in action. We're so excited to be delivering the Piedotera tax.
[05:01:15] You view it as a step toward a broader tax. It sounds like you haven't
[05:01:20] abandoned your push for a broader tax on the wealthy. I think the Piedotera tax
[05:01:24] is an incredible step. I think the final part of this budget process is to
[05:01:29] ensure that we're balancing the budget at zero and that continues to be the work
[05:01:33] that we do with Albany as well as right here in City Hall.
[05:01:35] Alright let's talk about President Trump. When we last spoke after your first
[05:01:40] Oval Office meeting, one that surprised a lot of people in how cordial it was, how
[05:01:47] would you describe your relationship with President Trump right now?
[05:01:51] I would say that it's honest, it's direct, and it's productive.
[05:01:55] And are you still in regular contact with him?
[05:01:58] How often do you speak to the president?
[05:01:59] I'll keep the cadence of that between the two of us.
[05:02:02] Much of that is based on the premise of privacy.
[05:02:04] But what I will say is that those conversations,
[05:02:07] no matter how they happen, they return back to one thing,
[05:02:10] one of the few things that we have in common,
[05:02:12] which is our love for New York City
[05:02:14] and how to deliver for the same city.
[05:02:16] He said it after the first meeting that we had
[05:02:19] in the Oval Office.
[05:02:20] He told the press that were there
[05:02:23] that the better this city does, the happier he feels.
[05:02:25] that's exactly how I feel about the city as well.
[05:02:27] Understood, you're not gonna give me the exact cadence,
[05:02:30] but is it fair to say you have had, to some extent,
[05:02:33] ongoing discussions since that first Oval Office meeting?
[05:02:36] Yes, and we've seen a second meeting at the Oval Office,
[05:02:39] and much of this is a reflection of the fact
[05:02:42] that he's the President of the United States of America,
[05:02:44] I'm the Mayor of New York City,
[05:02:46] and we know that so much of what the city needs
[05:02:49] is also dependent on a relationship
[05:02:51] with the federal administration.
[05:02:52] You know, we are sitting here in City Hall,
[05:02:54] And I've spoken often about my belief that Feral LaGuardia is the greatest mayor in our
[05:02:59] city's history.
[05:03:00] I shared that.
[05:03:01] Yeah, will you, will you commit to, will you commit to fighting the president and engaging
[05:03:11] him in fisticuffs the next time you meet physically, right now, on Meet the Press, all but ensuring
[05:03:18] that he reverses all the decisions that he's given that are beneficial to New Yorkers right
[05:03:23] right now. Zoram, I'm Donnie, when will you punch the President in the mouth?
[05:03:29] Oh, it's awesome.
[05:03:32] With the President as well, and I pointed at a portrait of FDR that he had shown me,
[05:03:39] and I said that so much of what LaGuardia was able to accomplish was because of a relationship
[05:03:44] with FDR, was because of the New Deal investments that we saw, and that's why in the second meeting
[05:03:49] that I had with the president, I put forward a proposal to build more housing in a single
[05:03:54] development that the city has seen since the early 70s.
[05:03:58] And it was something that he was interested in, and that's a big part of the conversation
[05:04:01] we're continuing to have.
[05:04:02] You know, many Democratic mayors, governors, members of Congress have struggled to figure
[05:04:07] out how to navigate their relationship with President Trump.
[05:04:11] What do you think you have gotten right about that?
[05:04:15] What do you think that you're doing that's been effective so far?
[05:04:18] Okay, you want to know the real answer to this? I don't know what kind of fucking wishy-washy
[05:04:21] shit he's gonna say, because he's, you know, Mr. Media Darling. But the real answer is,
[05:04:26] he's actually popular. That's number one. You have to be popular and well-liked.
[05:04:32] And number two, you have to be straightforward. Democrats always offer a conciliatory tone
[05:04:42] when they engage with the president. And the president respects strength.
[05:04:46] strength. As a matter of fact, not only does he respect strength, but he also kind of sees
[05:04:55] like any kind of concession as a weakness. He reads concession as weakness, both with
[05:05:01] Iran, which has caused them to obviously make the wrong decisions, and also certainly in
[05:05:07] domestic politics as well.
[05:05:09] I think to be honest with you, I am lucky in that I have something that no one else
[05:05:13] does which is that I'm from New York City and New York City holds a very
[05:05:17] special place for him as well as for me we're both from this same city and it
[05:05:21] means that our conversations are not just of the scale that is typical with
[05:05:26] the president but also granular about even the things as specific as zoning
[05:05:30] law changes in Midtown Manhattan and that I think speaks to the fact that
[05:05:34] Donald Trump is not just the president of this country he's also someone who's
[05:05:37] been a New Yorker for his entire life, and invested in this city doing well.
[05:05:43] The other side of this is also because he is a cherished media darling.
[05:05:47] Donald Trump has always wanted the approval of like the New York liberal media elite that
[05:05:53] was his main gripe for the longest time.
[05:06:00] And not only that, but like having the approval, seeming approval of someone like that is something
[05:06:09] that Donald Trump has always looked for.
[05:06:12] Yeah, I mean, these are the major reasons why Trump is treating Zoran differently than
[05:06:20] anybody else.
[05:06:21] And also, last but not least, he sees Zoran as an anti-establishment figure, taking out
[05:06:27] the establishment wing of his own party by force. So there's probably a sense of kinship
[05:06:32] there for Donald Trump, like a reminder of the striving, disruptive 2016 candidate that
[05:06:41] Trump once was as well, his possibly best moments in American politics.
[05:06:47] Now had a number of conversations with President Trump. Do you trust President Trump?
[05:06:52] I would say that those conversations are ones where we know that they have to continue.
[05:06:56] there have been times where I have raised things to the president. For example, in that
[05:07:00] last meeting, it was a meeting where we mostly spoke about this housing development. But
[05:07:05] over the course of the meeting, I did mention that just that morning that I said detained
[05:07:09] a Columbia University student. I mentioned to him that this was part of a larger trend
[05:07:14] that we had seen of five individuals being detained in or around Columbia University.
[05:07:17] I gave him a list of those five. Thirty minutes after the meeting, he called me and said he
[05:07:22] It now made the decision to release her.
[05:07:24] And so I think we see in those decisions the worth of a relationship that is both honest
[05:07:29] and direct and looking to be productive.
[05:07:32] And that honesty means acknowledging places of disagreement.
[05:07:35] When I was telling him that, I also told him, as I've said time and again, that I believe
[05:07:39] these ICE raids to be cruel, to be inhumane, and to do nothing to serve in the stated interest
[05:07:44] that it has, which is that of public safety.
[05:07:47] Given that you have found some common ground with President Trump, would you say at this
[05:07:51] moment you trust him. I would say that he is someone I will continue to speak with
[05:07:55] and that I think like with any politician myself or himself or any other one we
[05:08:00] should be judged by the actions that we have. You and President Trump arguably
[05:08:05] both want on similar messages of affordability. New York City already
[05:08:10] had one of the highest energy rates in the country. Now the war with Iran has
[05:08:16] triggered the worst oil disruption in US history. Is there anything that you
[05:08:21] can or will do as mayor to help alleviate some of the high costs that New Yorkers are
[05:08:27] bearing right now due to the war in Iran.
[05:08:30] We are looking to deliver relief to New Yorkers, frankly, even from before this war, because
[05:08:34] while this war has exacerbated a cost of living crisis, that is a crisis that existed from
[05:08:40] even before the time I was running for mayor.
[05:08:42] And it's reflected in the fact that we are the most expensive city in the United States
[05:08:46] of America.
[05:08:47] But I think your question also gets back to the fact that this is a war to not just be
[05:08:51] opposed on political grounds on moral grounds, but even just on economic grounds. We are
[05:08:56] speaking about a federal administration that has spent upwards of $28 billion, killing
[05:09:01] thousands of people all the way over in the Middle East at the same time as we're being
[05:09:07] told that this money cannot be found to invest in working class Americans across this country.
[05:09:13] And I wish...
[05:09:14] Zora Moudani, when will you commit to calling President Donald Trump to forcibly reopen the
[05:09:19] Shrida Hormuz by offering long-standing concessions to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the
[05:09:28] Islamic Republic of Iran. As a Shia-12er, this is well within your power. We all know you're
[05:09:36] practicing Taqia right now as we speak. Why won't you get the president to commit to
[05:09:46] real long-standing sensation of hostilities with the Islamic Republic.
[05:09:50] The words of two
[05:09:52] from the 90s weren't still prescient but they continue to be true for too many
[05:09:56] which is that we always have money for war and not to feed the poor.
[05:09:59] I know you're the mayor of New York but there are diplomatic talks that
[05:10:02] President Trump says could be restarting. Do you support those
[05:10:06] diplomatic talks given the strong perspective that you have on Iran?
[05:10:10] I support the end of this war and anything that can deliver that I think
[05:10:15] is critically important. I support that, not just as an American, but also as the mayor of the city.
[05:10:19] And I say that because at the core of any war is a dehumanization.
[05:10:24] Okay. I was just joking, but it turns out she did low key kind of ask that question.
[05:10:30] Like that question is coming up. I was just kidding when I said it.
[05:10:37] Mr. Ramdani, do you approve of the new Ayatollah?
[05:10:39] It takes place. It is never confined to it.
[05:10:43] Mr. Mamdani, what do you think about the reformist wing of the Islamic Republic?
[05:10:51] Mr. Mamdani, do you think that Galabaf could take over the role of
[05:10:56] Larjiani as the pragmatic candidate, as the speaker of the parliament in Iran,
[05:11:05] on, that could potentially unite the IRGC hardliners and the moderate wing of the Islamic
[05:11:12] Republic and therefore bringing about prosperity for the Islamic Republic for four generations.
[05:11:21] Mr. Hamdani, why won't you commit the Calabash becoming the next leader in a parliamentary
[05:11:28] structure in the Islamic Republic, moving away from the Ayatollah system, moving away
[05:11:33] from the supreme leader system that they currently have.
[05:11:35] That'll field.
[05:11:36] Recently, I read of a report of a hate crime that took place at a subway station.
[05:11:42] I called the young woman.
[05:11:44] She told me that she was a young Muslim woman and that right before her attack or through
[05:11:48] her to the ground, the first thing that he said to her was, I wonder how many Iranians
[05:11:52] we killed today.
[05:11:54] That's what these kinds of actions also breed.
[05:11:57] They breed a vision of the world where there is division, where there is a debate as to
[05:12:01] who belongs.
[05:12:02] looking to lead a city where we understand that anyone who lives here, belongs here,
[05:12:05] it's time to deliver for all of them.
[05:12:07] Let's talk about ICE, you just referenced.
[05:12:10] Yeah, no, Hamas condemnations will definitely come, Chatter, who asked that question.
[05:12:15] Hamas condemnations will be demanded and Hamas condemnations will roll through.
[05:12:20] ICE, in the midst of the government shutdown, President Trump deployed ICE agents to airports
[05:12:26] across America, including right here in New York.
[05:12:30] In the wake of that, former Trump chief strategist Steve Bannon suggested that there could be
[05:12:36] a test run for sending ICE to polling places in the midterms.
[05:12:42] What will you do if ICE agents show up to polling places in the midterm elections?
[05:12:46] I will do everything in my power to ensure that that is not the case.
[05:12:50] I think it speaks to a vision of this country where democracy is something to be suppressed
[05:12:56] as opposed to something to be protected.
[05:12:58] And I think that what we are seeing time and time again
[05:13:01] is an attempt to utilize ICE for all
[05:13:03] of the other functions of government
[05:13:05] that Republicans are unable to fund
[05:13:07] because they don't want to ensure
[05:13:09] that these kinds of quality of services
[05:13:10] continue across our country.
[05:13:11] And I know you're not gonna get into specifics
[05:13:13] of your conversations with President Trump,
[05:13:15] but have you directly raised this issue with him?
[05:13:18] Have you said to President Trump
[05:13:20] that you don't want ICE agents here ahead of the midterms?
[05:13:23] I've said to the president,
[05:13:24] it has nothing to do with elections.
[05:13:25] I've said to him time and time again that ICE is a cruel and inhumane agency and that
[05:13:30] here in New York City, we are focused on delivering public safety.
[05:13:33] I talk about affordability every single day.
[05:13:35] I know that affordability is premised on the delivery of public safety first and foremost.
[05:13:41] That's why, you know, whether it's the president I'm talking to or anyone else for that matter,
[05:13:44] I speak about the fact that our approach to public safety in New York City, it's working.
[05:13:49] We've delivered the lowest recorded murders in New York City history, the joint lowest
[05:13:53] recorded shootings in New York City history.
[05:13:55] That island has gone more than 180 days
[05:13:57] without a murder, major crimes are down by more than 9%.
[05:14:00] We know what we need to do to deliver safety.
[05:14:03] We have the NYPD tasked with that responsibility
[05:14:06] to think that ICE should be doing that.
[05:14:08] It speaks to a complete abdication, frankly,
[05:14:14] of the kind of politics that New Yorkers are looking for.
[05:14:16] Let's talk about the Democratic Party
[05:14:18] and the future of the Democratic Party.
[05:14:21] Former Vice President Kamala Harris said,
[05:14:23] Just last week, she is thinking about running for president again.
[05:14:27] Would you like to see former vice president Kamala Harris run for president again?
[05:14:31] I have to be honest, I haven't thought about the candidacies for president this time.
[05:14:34] My focus is 2026.
[05:14:36] You're the only Democrat who hasn't thought about that.
[05:14:39] And I'm proud to say that I am not and will never be running for president.
[05:14:42] And here in 2026, I want to be delivering for New Yorkers.
[05:14:46] And when it comes to the national level, I want to make sure that we win these midterms
[05:14:49] and actually have a vision that we're fighting for, not just one that we're fighting against.
[05:14:53] Given that, for revised-
[05:14:55] Well, you know what that means. He hates to see black women thrive. Bro, just lied, yo, he just lied.
[05:15:08] I mean, that's a non-response, which means he's racist. He is demonstrating misogynoir.
[05:15:17] He's demonstrating anti-Asian racism.
[05:15:22] He is sexist as hell.
[05:15:25] President Kamala Harris was the nominee in 2024.
[05:15:29] Do you think she would be the strongest person to represent Democrats in 2020?
[05:15:33] I know you're trying to get me to answer the previous question again.
[05:15:37] But I have to be honest with you, I think that New Yorkers are tired of politicians
[05:15:40] pontificating about other politicians, what they want to see are results.
[05:15:44] Well, you know what?
[05:15:46] Look at anti-Semitic too. How about that? Add that onto the pile.
[05:15:56] What a- what a fucking question, dude. That's why my focus has been more on pop.
[05:16:01] Mayor Mamdani, why do you- why do you love doing massage noir? Mayor Mamdani, why do
[05:16:09] you hate strong black women who also wear cops? Holes than on politics.
[05:16:16] Let me ask you about some New York politicians.
[05:16:18] Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer notably did not endorse you in the general election.
[05:16:23] And now there's a big discussion about generational leadership in your party, as you know.
[05:16:30] Just three years ago, do you think that Senator Schumer should step aside as leader of Senate
[05:16:38] Democrats?
[05:16:39] I have to be honest with you, this is another question that gets into the future, gets into
[05:16:43] 2020.
[05:16:44] in New York or though this is personal for you in some way. Come on, dude. Don't, okay. To be fair,
[05:16:49] this is like, you can just be like, yeah, he sucks. Nobody likes him. Even Amy Schumer probably
[05:16:56] wouldn't defend Chuck at this point. And they're fucking related. Okay. In terms of your politics
[05:17:02] here, and I'll tell you that like the common one's going to piss off people. So it's understandable
[05:17:06] that you, you skip that landmine. You don't step on it, right? But Chuck Schumer is a little bit
[05:17:12] of a freebie. Right now, my focus is on working with everyone and that includes Senator Schumer.
[05:17:17] It includes others as well. And it's not predicated on, did you endorse me in the election or not?
[05:17:22] Because everyone is a New Yorker who has the opportunity to deliver for the city.
[05:17:27] You know, recently I worked with Senator Schumer to deliver on a hub of relief for
[05:17:33] delivery workers right here across from city hall. Oh my God, he's defending Chuck Schumer.
[05:17:37] Oh my god, unbelievable, dude.
[05:17:41] That's what it looks like to actually work with anyone and everyone.
[05:17:43] We're going to continue to do that.
[05:17:44] Would you like to see Congressman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez challenge Senator Schumer for
[05:17:49] his seat as a part of the generational change that's being discussed?
[05:17:52] I will tell you this, that I have had the privilege of being represented by Congressman
[05:17:57] Ocasio-Cortez and it was an honor to have that be my experience.
[05:18:01] Now it's an honor to work with her as an incredible congresswoman and I'm excited to see whatever
[05:18:06] it is that she decides to do next. I don't think she's made a decision as yet, but we're
[05:18:10] very proud of her here in New York City.
[05:18:11] Do you have any thoughts about this debate over generational change? Is it time for a
[05:18:15] younger generation of politicians, the Democratic Party?
[05:18:18] I think it's time for a party that reflects the urgency that we're seeing across this
[05:18:23] country in terms of hunger, frankly, that is not as much tied just to age, but to vision.
[05:18:30] We know very well what we oppose. What are we for? That is a question that I think we
[05:18:34] have to be able to answer. What are we fighting for? It was not just enough in this mayoral
[05:18:40] campaign to say that I wasn't like other mayoral candidates. We had to always answer the question
[05:18:44] of New Yorkers, what would we deliver for them? And I really think that that is at the heart of
[05:18:48] the question for our party. And I'll be honest with you, when you look back at the history books
[05:18:53] of our party 100 years ago, we had a very clear vision of what we were fighting for. And it is
[05:18:58] sad that for too many Americans, when they want to look for ambition in the Democratic Party,
[05:19:02] Yeah. He might be refusing to say anything about Chuck Schumer because like then it opens up the faucet of
[05:19:09] questions that are like, what do you think about this politician? What do you think about Kyrsten Gillibrand? What do you think about
[05:19:15] that politician, right? So he's just trying to probably stay consistent and stay on message.
[05:19:23] He wants to talk about how he's delivering 16 inches. Okay. That's what it is. All holes filled.
[05:19:30] I want to ask you about some of the focus on you, your family, the first lady.
[05:19:38] You 34 eating chicken tendies that your mommy made you sad.
[05:19:41] You're on 34 being America's best mayor.
[05:19:47] Chad, why you got to remind me, dude?
[05:19:53] It's true.
[05:19:54] It's true.
[05:19:55] I'm an unaccomplished chud ass loser. Okay. What major city am I responsible for? None.
[05:20:04] Not a zero. Are you married yet? Yeah. Unmarried, eating mommy's chicken tendies. Well, dad's
[05:20:14] chicken tendies. Oh my God. Is she about to ask, do you condemn your wife? Oh, hold on.
[05:20:21] this on you, your family, the first lady.
[05:20:25] She got a lot of attention after she,
[05:20:28] and I know you've been asked about this,
[05:20:29] she liked posts they appeared to celebrate
[05:20:32] Hamas attacks on Israel on October 7th.
[05:20:35] You've said she's her own private person.
[05:20:38] But I wanna ask you, and I think some of your allies
[05:20:40] wanna know from you, do you think it's wrong
[05:20:43] to celebrate those terror attacks on October 7th?
[05:20:46] I wanna make very clear, I think that October 7th
[05:20:48] was a horrific war crime.
[05:20:50] I think that Hamas is a terrorist organization.
[05:20:53] And I think that any violation of international law
[05:20:56] is something that should be opposed.
[05:20:57] And I believe that because I have a belief
[05:21:00] in universal politics.
[05:21:01] So do you disagree with your wife?
[05:21:03] Will you condemn your wife, Zara Mammdani?
[05:21:05] Zara Kwaame Mammdani, will you condemn your wife
[05:21:08] so that all of us New Yorkers can finally feel safe?
[05:21:15] You showed how to answer these questions, PSA.
[05:21:18] would result in mass civilian death of their own people.
[05:21:21] So my question is, when you say Hamas is a thousand times better,
[05:21:24] do you actually mean that or is that a rhetorical move
[05:21:28] or like a solid-
[05:21:28] Holy fuck, this got half a milli.
[05:21:30] Oh my Lord.
[05:21:32] I'm Chuck Schumer's staffer and I hide in the toilet
[05:21:34] to watch this in order for non-violence to work,
[05:21:36] your opponent must have a conscience.
[05:21:38] I think he really nailed the social interaction.
[05:21:40] Bro, this is why liberals lose their fucking minds
[05:21:43] whenever I go on the podjons.
[05:21:45] because every liberal that watches my my pot-save America interactions their
[05:21:50] takeaways always like oh my god why does no one talk like this
[05:21:58] significant improvement over quarry booker exactly the kind of conversation
[05:22:01] we need
[05:22:07] i love how everyone feels they have to scold them before they can agree with
[05:22:10] everything he says.
[05:22:15] We love having a conversation about whose feelings are being hurt in the western world
[05:22:18] when the conversation should be about who's dying in Gaza.
[05:22:22] Damn, I did have some fucking bars in that combo, didn't I?
[05:22:40] Well done posting comments on your alt accounts, yeah, and I also bought this interview.
[05:22:54] Jesus Christ who is a subscriber to the podgeon says, thank you so much for doing this, outcasting
[05:22:59] an ally is so incredibly stupid, thanks for building a bridge.
[05:23:10] I mean, it's all of the above. I do mean it. I think it's a rhetorical move because it frustrates a lot of people. I've also said, I'm a harm reduction voter. I'm a lesser evil voter. And therefore I would vote for Hamas over Israel every single time because I'm looking at the situation as, as, as a paramilitary organization that has like a political party as well.
[05:23:39] as well, the Politburo as well, that is entirely comprised,
[05:23:43] not as an alien force, but of orphaned children
[05:23:47] that have had their parents killed by an apartheid state
[05:23:50] that has been dominating the lives of Palestinians
[05:23:55] for 80 years at this point.
[05:23:57] And they've done a genocide at this point as well,
[05:24:00] but it started off with the Nakba
[05:24:02] and has only evolved as technology has gotten better
[05:24:06] to become more heinous.
[05:24:08] And Gaza is this hermetically sealed area
[05:24:12] that many people correctly point to
[05:24:14] as the world's largest open-air prison.
[05:24:24] Whether it applies to here.
[05:24:26] Let's see how he said it, hold on.
[05:24:28] I think that October 7th was a horrific war crime.
[05:24:31] I think that Hamas is a terrorist organization.
[05:24:34] And I think that any violation of international law
[05:24:37] something that should be opposed. And I believe that because I have a belief in universal politics,
[05:24:43] whether it applies to here in New York City or anywhere across the world. And I'll also be honest
[05:24:48] with you that before October 7, so my my perspective on this has always been that I I think that
[05:24:58] Hamas's tactics, which I oppose at times, right, or or it's like internal governance issues,
[05:25:05] are secondary to this conversation because they're, it's like placing a lot of emphasis on the
[05:25:14] Nat Turner rebellion, or instead of talking about the much larger, much more consequential,
[05:25:21] much bigger harm that, you know, chattel slavery was to black people, to like sell black people.
[05:25:28] Love the at times. I mean, it's true, like...
[05:25:30] like people and to rape them and treat them as though they weren't human, I think.
[05:25:39] When New Yorkers come up to me and they're asking me questions, most of these questions
[05:25:44] come back to, can I make my rent? Can I find a way to afford to live in the most expensive
[05:25:49] city in the United States of America? Can I afford groceries? That's really what our
[05:25:52] focus has been as an administration. What do you see the New Yorkers who might want
[05:25:55] to hear from the First Lady herself on this?
[05:25:58] Oh my god. Oh my god. Which New Yorkers? Which New Yorkers? Why are we abiding by the standards
[05:26:08] of people who are insane? Okay. Like these are insane people. It is an insane demand.
[05:26:18] Okay. It's an insane demand to ask me to condemn my wife. That's number one. And number two,
[05:26:25] it's insane that there is still there are still hang-ups on this issue move on move on
[05:26:34] like what do you want me to do put my my wife in front of Michael Rappaport so he can berate
[05:26:41] her like what the fuck is this is what he should say it's just like an endless sequence of
[05:26:48] humiliation rituals, man. It's ridiculous. Any question about Hamas should immediately
[05:26:56] be redirected back to Israel. Okay. It's not October 8, 2023. And even then, there was
[05:27:04] a conversation to be had about 75 years of apartheid that led to the violence that we
[05:27:10] saw on October 7. Okay. It's April 19th, 2026 in Israel has not only done a genocide in Gaza,
[05:27:20] but is doing something similar by their own admission in Lebanon. They've taken more territory in
[05:27:26] Syria. They've goaded the American administration into waging war in Iran. Energy markets are
[05:27:35] collapsing and you are still asking me about my wife's likes on Instagram on
[05:27:42] October 8th 2023 it's fucking ridiculous. It's totally ridiculous. It's a
[05:27:52] ridiculous conversation.
[05:27:57] At a certain point I will say like taking this much of a conciliatory tone
[05:28:03] on like these ridiculous lines of attack do end up giving legitimacy to these incredibly
[05:28:14] disingenuous, hysterical, incredibly disingenuous and hysterical lines of attack.
[05:28:22] It's fucking bullshits.
[05:28:23] Well, I'll say to them that the first lady has shared her own reflections.
[05:28:26] I won't add my words to hers, but that I'm so proud that I get to call her my wife.
[05:28:31] an incredible woman and one of immense integrity. I want to ask you about some of the Islamophobia
[05:28:37] that we have seen recently. You are the first Muslim mayor of New York City,
[05:28:41] and some Republicans in Congress have posted what are outwardly Islamophobic comments.
[05:28:46] People don't realize that for multiple days after October 7, the scale of violence was very unclear.
[05:28:50] Yeah, it doesn't matter. Even if it was fucking clear, we're talking about like policing.
[05:28:57] Like, what are you talking about? You don't know why she liked a certain post.
[05:29:00] You don't know what she saw when she liked on a on an Instagram post that has like a carousel of different images when the description is just talking about how like Israel's occupation is, is unbelievably deadly.
[05:29:19] It's so stupid. It's a it's a stupid angle of attack. It's a really, really stupid angle of attack. It's so cynical. It's so disingenuous.
[05:29:28] You know,
[05:29:30] The only concession you should ever make is to the truth, okay? To what you believe is the truth.
[05:29:40] That's the only concession you should ever make. When people ask me about October 7,
[05:29:47] and they talk about war crimes at plays, or they talk about the violence that unfolded,
[05:29:53] there's no reason to lie and act like no violence took place, no civilians died, okay?
[05:29:57] that did happen, but that should always be discussed in the larger framework of 75 years
[05:30:03] at the time of Israeli apartheid in Israeli occupation, and it should always be talked
[05:30:08] about with what the violence that unfolded after.
[05:30:14] It's totally, totally ridiculous not to do that.
[05:30:21] In the wake of the war with Iran, Congressman Randy Fein, for example, even saying-
[05:30:26] God these people are not smart enough to fucking. I don't know. I don't want to give him any advice. Actually, I'm not going to even say because there are so many fucking ways to just cut through. If you wanted to actually like,
[05:30:39] You know, chop up his arguments here and just like call him out for inherent hypocrisy. There are infinitely better ways of doing so.
[05:30:49] I'm not going to say anything obviously because that would be silly. So let's just move on.
[05:30:54] need more Islamophobia, not less. How are you reflecting on that rhetoric as a Muslim
[05:31:01] American serving as the mayor of America's biggest city?
[05:31:04] I think it's disgusting. And I think it's a reflection of a kind of bigotry that frankly
[05:31:09] isn't just confined to a Republican party. It's become endemic to political life across this
[05:31:14] country. And what makes it-
[05:31:16] Heading on his wife, now you want to talk about a standpoint? Yeah, I mean,
[05:31:20] I mean, it's ironic because she's talking about Islamophobia after demonstrating a version of that.
[05:31:26] Ironically enough, any kind of framework that tries to subtly or not so subtly imply the Zoramum Dani is like a vicious anti-Semite is Islamophobic.
[05:31:40] Is Islamophobia through and fucking through?
[05:31:42] Not only is he unbelievably conciliatory to a degree that does not make any fucking sense whatsoever,
[05:31:49] Okay. Zoran needs to rail against progressives that engage in lip-speak about Palestine.
[05:31:55] And to the explicitly socialist movement was that it didn't carve out an exception for Palestine.
[05:32:00] Yeah. In this 2020 combo, Mamdani says New York City, Maryland, Canada should be pressed about supporting BDS against Israel.
[05:32:05] There are ways in which to make what seems to be an international battle into a local one.
[05:32:11] His spokesperson is Zoran. It's been Chris DeCruyre from day one of his campaign that is focused squarely on lowering the cost of living and working for the middle class New Yorkers and delivering a safer city for everyone.
[05:32:18] city for everyone. Yeah. Anyway, let's not get lost in the sauce here.
[05:32:27] Unique is not the fact of its bigotry. Many Americans of different faiths face bigotry. What
[05:32:32] makes it unique to me is the way in which it is treated as permissible, that it's acceptable,
[05:32:38] that it's just a fact of life, that it isn't something to be spoken up in opposition to. And
[05:32:43] I'm less concerned for myself. I'm more concerned.
[05:32:46] You can't expect them to answer like you would know. I that's why I said the only concession the czar should ever make is to the truth
[05:32:52] Okay
[05:32:55] Making hardline concessions this fucking late into the game
[05:32:59] And just leaving it that without even like flipping the conversation back on Israel is is at a certain point has to be seen as like unproductive
[05:33:08] There's never been a moment where I've expected him to like, you know
[05:33:11] go out and be like, I love Hamas or some shit. Okay. That's, that's ridiculous. It's not
[05:33:17] going to happen.
[05:33:19] And frankly, for so many Muslims who face the same kinds of attacks, but we don't know
[05:33:30] their names. They don't have the privilege of serving as the mayor of the city. And I'm
[05:33:34] concerned about them because I'm part of the reason why is because it's not going to go
[05:33:38] away because the demands are not coming from a sincere place. The questions are not coming
[05:33:46] from a sincere place. These are not constructive criticisms. These are cynical attacks that
[05:33:55] basically egg on the bullshit that he is somehow a secret fundamentalist, a radical Islamist,
[05:34:05] A person who hates Jews.
[05:34:10] And if they can't get him on it,
[05:34:12] because he's like far too conciliatory,
[05:34:14] they go after his wife.
[05:34:17] It's a target rich environment.
[05:34:18] They can go after,
[05:34:19] and they've been going after people in his orbit.
[05:34:23] I'm concerned about anyone who calls the city home,
[05:34:25] and how do we ensure that they never feel
[05:34:27] that their belonging is in question.
[05:34:29] They never feel that because of who they are,
[05:34:31] where they come from,
[05:34:32] they don't deserve the same things as anyone else.
[05:34:34] The suspects accused of throwing explosives outside your residence were
[05:34:39] arraigned this week and pleaded not guilty. As you sit here,
[05:34:44] are you worried about your own personal safety?
[05:34:49] I'm very thankful to have hardworking men and women of the NYPD who keep me
[05:34:54] safe and keep New Yorkers safe each and every day.
[05:34:56] I don't fear for my safety and that is a testament to the work that they do.
[05:35:00] I will say that there are threats that I receive
[05:35:03] as by virtue of being the mayor of the city
[05:35:06] and they will never intimidate me from doing the job
[05:35:09] that I am so grateful to have,
[05:35:11] which is a job to serve New Yorkers across the five boroughs.
[05:35:14] You are an extraordinary moment
[05:35:16] where political violence is on the rise.
[05:35:19] How do you process that
[05:35:22] and not let it stand in the way of your work?
[05:35:25] I think it is something that we have to be clear about
[05:35:28] that no matter who this political violence seeks to target,
[05:35:31] it must be vehemently opposed.
[05:35:33] It doesn't matter what you think about that person's opinions
[05:35:36] or whether you agree with them
[05:35:37] to allow political violence to become a part of public life.
[05:35:41] It is the way in which democracy starts to disintegrate
[05:35:44] as a place where we can engage with those
[05:35:46] with whom we disagree.
[05:35:47] And it is all too easy,
[05:35:49] amidst all of this,
[05:35:51] to try and hide yourself from the world,
[05:35:54] to try and live only inside of city hall
[05:35:57] or in your armored vehicle.
[05:35:59] But we always know that to best understand New Yorkers,
[05:36:02] you have to live like New Yorkers.
[05:36:04] And that's why I'll take the train,
[05:36:05] I'll get on the bus, I'll ride a bike,
[05:36:07] I'll walk around because if I'm only seeing
[05:36:09] one New Yorker in the reflection of my window
[05:36:11] and that's myself, I'm not going to be able to fight
[05:36:14] for everyone who calls the city home.
[05:36:15] And just finally, Mayor Mandani,
[05:36:17] you are the first Democratic Socialist mayor of New York.
[05:36:22] Now that you have reached 100 days in office,
[05:36:26] How do you define what democratic socialism
[05:36:29] means in practice?
[05:36:30] It is the belief that democracy should extend
[05:36:33] from the ballot box to the rest of our lives.
[05:36:35] It's the belief that we should be fighting for each
[05:36:37] and every person who calls the city home
[05:36:39] in a practical sense.
[05:36:40] It's the choice to not only deliver the first steps
[05:36:44] to universal child care, but to do it while filling
[05:36:46] in 102,000 potholes, changing 6,700 catch basins,
[05:36:50] repaving more than 1,000 miles of roadway.
[05:36:53] Because what we know in our pothole politics
[05:36:56] in our sewer socialism, is that the worth of an ideology
[05:36:58] can only be judged in its delivery.
[05:37:00] And that's what we're looking to do,
[05:37:01] what we're looking to deliver.
[05:37:02] Now that you've bumped up against the hard realities
[05:37:04] of a $5.4 billion budget shortfall
[05:37:08] and the other red tape that you have to go through,
[05:37:10] do you still believe in democratic socialism?
[05:37:13] Do you still think it can be effective?
[05:37:14] I believe in it even more than I did the day before.
[05:37:17] And that's because of the fact that it is focused
[05:37:19] on the needs of working people
[05:37:21] and working people need that focus,
[05:37:23] that fight from politicians more than ever.
[05:37:26] There's our mom, Donnie.
[05:37:27] Thank you very much.
[05:37:28] Thank you so much.
[05:37:29] We really appreciate your time.
[05:37:31] God, that was insanely contentious, dude.
[05:37:34] What the fuck?
[05:37:37] That was unbelievably contentious.
[05:37:39] Yeah, I saw this.
[05:37:43] Sources tell me the leftist influences got out in time.
[05:37:46] This is literally a white supremacist, Stu Peters.
[05:37:48] Trump, next we're gonna go to war with Cuba.
[05:37:51] Watch what happens.
[05:37:52] I'm lost for words at this point.
[05:37:53] white supremacists do Peters. Natalie Nguyen, Contra points, Corey tweets this guy, says,
[05:38:00] sources tell me the leftist influences got out on time. Please God. This information tracker says,
[05:38:06] Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, and now Cuba,
[05:38:10] yet another country yearning for liberal democracy, only to be destroyed by brutal
[05:38:13] Hasanism. Thank you for Contra. Thank you, Contra points for speaking out. We can't let,
[05:38:18] we can't keep letting them destroy countries. I don't know what the fuck's wrong with her.
[05:38:23] I don't know what happened. I genuinely don't know what the fuck happened, but
[05:38:28] It's it's so strange
[05:38:32] It's so strange to behave like this
[05:38:35] Uh, I guess I mean, you know once a islamophobic sexpestiny
[05:38:40] Orbiter always a islamophobic sexpestiny orbiter
[05:38:44] Uh, but uh, yeah sources tell me that this is
[05:38:48] uh
[05:38:49] She blocked me a long time ago, obviously, but Caroline says Natalie, what's your fucking problem?
[05:39:02] Yeah, I don't know if it's like the the Clintonite brainworm brain worms or if it's just like a
[05:39:09] not taking criticism. Well,
[05:39:12] do she equated you to a wife beater the other day as well? She's gone off the deep end.
[05:39:16] Yeah, I don't know what the fuck's wrong with her. I hope she is, you know, I hope she's doing alright. I wish her well
[05:39:24] She has started what I like to call JK Rowling's posting on the on the timeline, you know
[05:39:32] I don't want to be too mean but like the the vibe and the attitude of her post remind me of of
[05:39:40] of the same kind of like hyper focus and brain rot
[05:39:44] only demonstrated by the Harry Potter author herself.
[05:39:51] Live long enough on the timeline
[05:39:53] and you turn into a villain.
[05:40:02] Yeah, I think I saw this one, the cope was heavy.
[05:40:05] Yeah, what did you do to help Cuba?
[05:40:08] I strongly advocated that we not elect the president
[05:40:10] who would invade them. By the way, I'm willing to, I'm willing to bet and I mean this sincerely,
[05:40:23] a lot of my naysayers at least do post enough, right? Or were active during the election
[05:40:33] cycle. I don't even think she was like I have been more hands on involved in the last election cycle
[05:40:42] and have never stopped being hands on involved in the American political process.
[05:40:47] A lot more significantly than a random breadtuber who delivers like one eight hour video
[05:40:55] every fucking three months or four months if you're lucky and collects Patreon cash in the process.
[05:41:01] was. So I do find this a little strange when people are like, well, I voted. Yeah, okay.
[05:41:07] So did I. And not only that, but also I haven't stopped because for me, politics doesn't end
[05:41:16] when Democrats win or lose, right? It doesn't end for the people that we're talking about.
[05:41:26] You were visibly at the DNC trying to help push the campaign in the right direction.
[05:41:29] I know. I went back and looked and she made a few posts about how Biden should drop out
[05:41:35] in July, 2024, retweeted Harris accepting the nomination and made one post about the
[05:41:40] anti electoral left.
[05:41:41] Then didn't mention the election from July to November, 2024. She's lying here. It's
[05:41:51] very strange, dude. Also, there was a democratic president in 2023 and in 2024, or in 2023
[05:42:13] and 2024, yeah, that was responsible for Cuba being starved and being blockaded that, you
[05:42:20] you know, caused tremendous harm. He also happened to be the vice president of Barack
[05:42:26] Obama, who actually did aid Cuba in a very meaningful way. So this doesn't even reach
[05:42:33] that same standard of like, oh, guess what? You know, Democrats are far better to Cuba
[05:42:41] than Republicans. Like Joseph Robinette Biden absolutely continued Trump's cruel policies
[05:42:47] against Cuba. But that's what I think is the real problem here. For a lot of these people,
[05:43:02] for a lot of these people, it's just basically like I tweeted and that's all like politics
[05:43:07] ends and begins at like I tweeted a couple of times for Kamala Harris and I voted for
[05:43:11] Kamala Harris. What more do you want from me? You guys actually are far worse than me.
[05:43:17] people who go out and protest when a Democrat's in charge, but you also go out and continue
[05:43:23] protesting when a Republican's in charge.
[05:43:25] You people are actually far worse than me, a person who did objectively nothing, right?
[05:43:31] Nothing, nothing at all.
[05:43:35] That's usually what it is.
[05:43:38] And it's the same energy about Cuba as well, because she's being so ruthless and so silly
[05:43:45] about like uh... people that went to cuba and delivered humanitarian aid it's
[05:43:48] like well
[05:43:49] that pales in comparison to what i did which is nothing right
[05:43:56] at all you you care about other people and you actually did go out there well
[05:44:01] then it's performative
[05:44:03] you actually engaged in uh... a performative act by actually going out
[05:44:07] there and trying to do something
[05:44:09] which pales
[05:44:10] in comparison to my strategy
[05:44:11] which is the fucking do nothing at all
[05:44:20] i think that there is this
[05:44:23] real anger
[05:44:26] that a lot of people have
[05:44:28] towards that uh... towards those who are frustrated with the way that the
[05:44:32] current system is designed
[05:44:34] that actually do want to make this change
[05:44:37] they don't fucking want to make that change at all there you know somewhat
[05:44:41] benefiting from the current system or at least like even when the current system is unbelievably violent to trans people for example
[05:44:48] You can like withstand the worst damages, I guess or you think you could just like keep your head down
[05:44:54] I
[05:44:57] Think you talked about this recently may have been on the pod jobs the jealousy were actual activists from the do nothing Dems
[05:45:02] Contra points fall from grace been fascinating someone who
[05:45:09] deradicalized young men and move them to the left now absolutely molding over
[05:45:12] someone who also deradicalizes even more young men all downstream from the
[05:45:16] lucrative Hillary glazing interview amount amazing
[05:45:25] what is this she never deradicalize anybody that was a self-proclaimed title
[05:45:29] She's always just another smug millennial reddit atheists who we all had to pretend to take series because of video essays
[05:45:34] When you can name 10 more people 10 people more knowledgeable and influential in the same area
[05:45:37] I mean, I don't I don't think so. I think she played a decent role
[05:45:43] In
[05:45:45] I think she played a decent role in like teaching people about transphobia shitting on Jordan Peterson things like that
[05:45:53] It's just
[05:45:54] But that's all it was
[05:45:59] Matt, leave about Natalie. Damn, I hope Trump doesn't attempt the genocide in Cuba, because
[05:46:10] then you'd have to wait two years to say a single word about it. Oh my God.
[05:46:17] But yeah, it's, I don't know, sometimes I think it's like envy, masquerading is like
[05:46:29] sincere political disagreements, um, maybe a personal distaste,
[05:46:42] also masquerading as political disagreements, but
[05:46:50] this happens all the fucking time with people that exhibit critical levels of Hasan derangement
[05:46:56] syndrome where they just look to world changing events and they immediately assume that I will
[05:47:07] be either in favor of it or against it. And if I'm against it, then I must be really devastated
[05:47:14] by it. So it's good that it happened. And I see this with neo-nazis on the timeline
[05:47:20] all the time. There was that one who was talking about how Zoran can't commit to fast and
[05:47:26] free buses until like next year or something. And they were like, Oh, this is going to really
[05:47:30] piss off us on. And it had like 10,000 likes. I was like, damn, dude, I don't even fucking
[05:47:34] live in New York. You know, that's such a strange way to, to view the world. But I don't
[05:47:42] expect this from, I don't know, people who are supposed to be center left in their politics.
[05:47:52] strange as the internet when she logs on a Twitter she's a bunch of snarky
[05:48:04] comments and her replies and that makes her big man so she gets into defense
[05:48:07] posture and thinks she has to fight the internet yeah anyway I'm gonna end it
[05:48:17] I'm gonna end it early. I'm sorry.
[05:48:20] I know I said I would game, but
[05:48:22] I'm tired. I'm I've been more tired these past couple days
[05:48:27] Than ever before
[05:48:29] But I downloaded the game
[05:48:34] So
[05:48:37] Maybe eventually I will play the game
[05:48:42] The game of life no fun Sunday. Yeah
[05:48:47] Take a few days to rest, go, that's not going to happen.
[05:48:55] Gaming lies the real reason why Contra is big man.
[05:48:59] Okay, I took the first and very important step of downloading this video game, okay?
[05:49:05] So that's what matters.
[05:49:08] More than anything else.
[05:49:10] Anyway, look at guys and I will be back tomorrow.
[05:49:15] All right peace
[05:49:26] Sunny Los Angeles, California says her son
[05:49:34] Stunned luck to the stun block to the top. It's just begun
[05:49:45] There is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming
[05:49:52] There is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming
[05:50:04] Weave you in a Chinese train, Tenkaya Place
[05:50:12] But it has been chattelous, given greening's grace.
[05:50:20] Zoran, winning NYC, walked to back with the force.
[05:50:28] The Rogan of the left, a mead of humble, still-owned corps.
[05:50:36] The Charlie Kirk assassination, the fear and unlearned show.
[05:50:42] Eight full fucking years of this, there ain't any more to go
[05:50:50] Doing fun stuff tomorrow, throw PBS up on the screen
[05:50:58] A man made more reaction, brought to you by this life's dream
[05:51:06] Cause there he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[05:51:17] There he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[05:51:27] Kacked out of the DNC, I well and march the good.
[05:51:35] Committing the propaganda to shut down people's throats.
[05:51:41] CBS Israeli news, a coup, a regime falls.
[05:51:49] A full-blown fascist takeover and still the duty calls
[05:51:57] Total radicalization coming out to sea
[05:52:05] The system where he'll always fail, it's up to you and me
[05:52:13] All these daily streets, whether short or weather long
[05:52:21] Have held millions of people, keep it moving right along
[05:52:28] Cause there he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[05:52:39] There he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[05:52:49] But hey, what can you say that's bbs for you?
[05:52:55] But he'll play games real soon, just you wait
[05:53:02] Say hey, what can you say that's bbs for you?
[05:53:08] But he'll move on real soon, just you wait
[05:53:13] Ba da da, ba da da, ba da da da da da da da
[05:53:16] Hey, what can you say? Hey, that's PBS for you.
[05:53:21] I hope all your alarms will soon. Just you wait.
[05:53:26] Shadda-da, shadda-da, shadda-da-da-da-da-da.
[05:53:30] What can you say? Hey, that's PBS for you.
[05:53:34] I hope you're jealous real soon. Just you wait.
[05:53:39] My hey, what can you say, let's be fierce for you
[05:53:47] Brought up by viewers like you, skew away, skew away