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05-04-2026 · 7h 00m

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[00:10:30] The last new golden boy Twitch streamer doesn't even try to hide it.
[00:10:51] Thirty-four-year-old Hassan Piker not only hates America, he's hinting at a civil war.
[00:10:56] A noted far-left influencer is declaring the Republican Party the biggest terrorist on
[00:11:02] earth.
[00:11:03] Brechty Deven, Hassan Piker is unapologetic for his controversial comments on a range
[00:11:07] of issues.
[00:11:08] An anti-American far-left commentator, who is named Hassan Piker.
[00:11:12] Now that he's being highlighted, Democrats are flocking to him.
[00:11:16] She's not out there on Hassan Piker's show, right?
[00:11:19] For example, right?
[00:11:20] The man to his left is a very controversial guy.
[00:11:24] Basant Piker insults just about everyone.
[00:11:26] Where if you go back and listen to some of the things
[00:11:28] that he says, Carl, this guy's not gonna wear well.
[00:11:32] Their so-called Joe Rogan of the left,
[00:11:34] Basant Piker, is back in the headlines this time
[00:11:38] for calling Republicans terrorists.
[00:11:40] Piker has a controversial history,
[00:11:42] and we've been showing you this all week.
[00:11:44] We don't give somebody like Hassan Piker
[00:11:46] this kind of attention, this kind of platform.
[00:11:48] It only rewards the kind of rhetoric that I just described.
[00:11:50] Hundreds of students lined up and packed
[00:11:53] to these rallies and they ate up the anti-war anti-capitalist and anti-establishment messages.
[00:11:59] That's him, Nassan Piker. They should stay away from him.
[00:12:06] What's going on, everybody? I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon, and pre-new,
[00:12:11] no matter where you are in the world of Nassan Piker and Nassan, I'm broadcast coming to you live
[00:12:16] from sunny California, Los Angeles. Folks who are live and alive and I hope all the boys,
[00:12:21] girls and mbs are having a fantastic one because today's a beautiful day today's a wonderful day today
[00:12:26] is monday that's right it's monday newsday folks it is monday monday monday may fourth may the
[00:12:35] fourth be with you chat be careful son fuck my mom sag okay good start good start to the broadcast
[00:12:46] um she enjoyed it okay that's what matters
[00:12:51] Anyway, um, yeah, it's May 4th. My hair is a little crazy. I have not had time to fix
[00:13:00] it because I was running around. I'm late. It's 11 33am and I'm late and I apologize
[00:13:05] for the tardiness, but Monday of May 4th, 2026, 62 degrees and sunny here in the greatest
[00:13:13] City on Earth, West Hollywood, Los Angeles, California, we're live, we're alive.
[00:13:19] And I hope everyone's having a fantastic one.
[00:13:23] Ritisserie chicken kaya is getting cooked in the background.
[00:13:26] As always, you already know what's up.
[00:13:30] Doc my pay, dude.
[00:13:31] Doc my pay.
[00:13:32] See if I care.
[00:13:34] See if I care.
[00:13:36] I mean, I deserve it.
[00:13:37] I deserve to get my pay docked.
[00:13:38] What is this?
[00:13:39] Well, this kind of tardiness is completely and utterly unacceptable in your job.
[00:13:46] So why is it allowed when privileged rich kids who chirp, chirp, chirp on the internet?
[00:13:56] Why is it that they get away with it?
[00:13:58] Anyway, time off task.
[00:14:00] You already know I'm an Amazon employee, so hit me with the time off task.
[00:14:04] You already track my pisses.
[00:14:07] So you might as well be.
[00:14:08] makes a dollar. I make a dime. That's why we watch house and I'll be on the company
[00:14:11] time. You already know. Hey, in any case, ladies and gentlemen, um, coming to you live
[00:14:17] from stolen land, uh, stolen Tongva land here in Los Angeles, California. So we're
[00:14:31] here. We're live. We're live. Tuning in for the last time before I go to sea says
[00:14:38] Soviet tuba go fuck go to see where. What do you like a pirate? What kind of what
[00:14:47] kind of seafaring expedition are we talking about? Like are you gonna go
[00:14:50] find some ancient artifacts at sea. Going to the harmuzzi. Anyway, oh god, we got a new
[00:15:05] Loomer. Oh no, we got a new Loomer emote in the chat. That's devastating. Okay, so,
[00:15:11] Oh, Fox will have a continuous segment on you if you make this joke.
[00:15:17] What?
[00:15:20] What is this?
[00:15:21] What is this boomer ass bullshit, dude?
[00:15:23] What is this boomer ass shit?
[00:15:25] Yeah, chat chat said he's going to go find chatter.
[00:15:28] So he's going to go find the one piece.
[00:15:30] That's why he's going out to see.
[00:15:33] Huh.
[00:15:34] If wrong war is likely restarting, we'll be talking about all of that and more.
[00:15:38] But before we do that.
[00:15:41] Personal news. This is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news about
[00:15:47] what's going on in the world of a song house and I'd be piker. Yes, India lost its last
[00:15:51] left wing government after five decades. I know everybody calm down. Okay, we'll get
[00:15:56] to that as well. You should collab with a burnt peanut and relentlessly push him on
[00:16:02] his politics. Yeah, no, let me be annoying. That will be, that will be good. This will
[00:16:09] be successful method. Also, no, guys, most people in this, I think you have to understand
[00:16:16] most people in our industry on Twitch would rather collab with like sex criminals, you
[00:16:22] know, cryptocurrency, cryptocurrency hucksters, people who have done like domestic abuse,
[00:16:29] like just a genuine like crimes before they would collaborate with a guy who says, you
[00:16:35] you know, free Palestine and draws the ire of like virtually every corporation, okay?
[00:16:42] Because all those other guys, they don't actually impact the dollars in some ways I do.
[00:16:53] So just remember that in any case, it is what it is.
[00:16:58] You know, I'm, I'm, uh, does his speed say free Palestine?
[00:17:07] Yeah, but speed is a behemoth that doesn't count.
[00:17:10] And also he's not seen as like a political entity.
[00:17:13] Um, so what is this?
[00:17:26] If you're about to give up, just remember what Arnold Schwarzenegger said.
[00:17:33] What?
[00:17:35] The fuck are you guys sending me this morning, dude?
[00:17:43] Y'all missed me.
[00:17:44] This is what it is.
[00:17:45] This is what happens when I take a day off and then everyone just fucking, everyone just
[00:17:49] misses me.
[00:17:50] Like, you have to take a look at these things that I have.
[00:17:57] You're like a, some of the chatters are like a bad dog bringing home like a dead squirrel.
[00:18:02] You know what I mean?
[00:18:05] Some of you are literally like, some of you legitimately.
[00:18:18] Some of you behave like that in any case, in any case, this clip is so perfect.
[00:18:24] Oh yeah, this was awesome.
[00:18:27] Shouts out to agent.
[00:18:28] Thank God there's some adults in the room.
[00:18:30] Look at this.
[00:18:31] This was really, really funny.
[00:18:34] I love this.
[00:18:35] Yeah, I'll take a look at this.
[00:18:37] But before we look at this, though, the thing I was going to say about personal news is,
[00:18:41] you know, I was, I was hanging out with family.
[00:18:46] I was hanging out with fam, you know, family time. Uh, I took the day off and I didn't really do much and it was awesome. Uh, I started rewatching invincible. So I can get caught up with all the memes on the timeline.
[00:19:01] Uh, and yeah, that's it. That's, there's not really much else going on. Shot to fear and podcast. Hopefully you guys watched it.
[00:19:13] And what else did I do? Honestly, nothing, nothing. Just the pod worked out and, uh, yeah, and watched invincible title card. Okay.
[00:19:32] Was that a tournament for the invisible game in OC last night?
[00:19:36] You didn't buy grown up clothes. No, we didn't end up buying grown up clothes. We just hung out at home.
[00:19:41] I didn't end up going shopping. It's fine though. I have plenty of grown-up clothes. I got enough, you know
[00:19:50] The jacket so crispy this is a super old thrifted arrow post style is that how you say it
[00:20:00] Like from like
[00:20:02] 2008 or something I
[00:20:07] Haven't worn it in a minute
[00:20:09] Yeah, it's arrow. See, you can make shit look cool. You can make things look cool.
[00:20:21] How do you say it? Is it air, air postal? Air postal? Is that how you say it? I don't
[00:20:29] know what any of this stuff is. All right, whatever. Arrow postal. All right. Well, yeah,
[00:20:36] down to Mayday in Havana. I met some dope, Hassanavi has there. Hell yeah.
[00:20:42] Federman party switch being discussed in private. Hell yeah. We got the DNC head too. He's in a
[00:20:49] state of panic. There's a lot going on. There's a lot to cover. Let's blast off and let's get right
[00:20:57] into it. Obviously, daily wire down. SCOTUS restores a Borobo pill.
[00:21:06] Federman. Party swap question mark.
[00:21:14] U.S. to guy ships out of Hormuz Trump were terminated. Oil climbs.
[00:21:18] DMC head, panic, Rudolph, Giuliani, critical, but stable, whatever that means, get in now.
[00:21:46] airline. I already covered Spirit airline. I covered Spirit airline less on Saturday.
[00:21:56] The war is currently starting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
[00:22:04] Is the war restarting?
[00:22:07] also Tom Steyer's team or Tom Steyer himself probably his team sent me class
[00:22:18] trader hats and I don't know how to feel about that like on the one hand I'm like
[00:22:22] on the one hand I'm like bro like you're supposed to be a class trader okay on
[00:22:29] the other hand I'm like am I does he think I'm a class trader like I don't
[00:22:34] have it. I don't have it like you do big dog. Like what the
[00:22:37] fuck?
[00:22:42] But Sarah for governor, fuck no. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my
[00:22:50] god.
[00:22:53] At least he likes don't shall ping so
[00:22:55] You are to be honest. New poll, California Democratic Party results from first poll during
[00:23:08] barrage negative ads on Javier Becerra, hurting Tom Steyer more than Becerra. Becerra is at 18%,
[00:23:14] Tom Steyer is at 12%. Fool, you are the petit bourgeoisie. He thinks you're a millionaire
[00:23:22] never passive income. I don't have any passive income. So that's the, the, the, the Piker
[00:23:27] broadcasting service also known as the people's broadcasting service is sponsored by you, the
[00:23:32] people for you, the people. Okay. This isn't like a, this isn't like a Kaisen style situation
[00:23:38] where if I go away for like eight months, there's still going to be like, you know,
[00:23:44] hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of revenue from like, you know, 30, 40, 50,000.
[00:23:51] not a hundred thousand permanent subscribers. Like that shit, that shit don't work that
[00:23:56] way. Y'all are working class, man. Um, sure. But I saw you at the Kentucky Derby. Yeah,
[00:24:03] I was at the Kentucky Derby. I was wearing, uh, one of, it was just the opportunity for
[00:24:07] me to wear one of my fits. That's why. Um, yeah.
[00:24:12] Mm-hmm
[00:24:15] Not sure you're petite bourgeois you're not like a shop owner
[00:24:23] Yeah, bro, he gave me he gave me he sent me three of these two which is crazy
[00:24:30] He gave me three of these so like what what is he saying? He's like, oh give it to your other rich ass homies, too
[00:24:36] Did you pay golden tempo? He's such a nice horse. What you, you think I was in Kentucky
[00:24:43] yesterday? That's why I didn't stream because I was in Kentucky. I shot the podcast. I shot
[00:24:49] the podcast at a totally separate date only to fly out to Kentucky. That's what you think
[00:24:54] is going on. Yeah. No, you got me. You caught me. I was there. Definitely. Yeah. Cancel
[00:25:01] Shana was responded to you
[00:25:04] Bro, he want yeah, he this guy he likes don't show pink, but he should like angles. Okay. He should be he should be our angles
[00:25:12] That's what we need from this guy modern day angles. That's what I like. That's what I need. He's not there though
[00:25:19] He's just not ideologically committed whatsoever
[00:25:23] In any case
[00:25:25] Um, in any case, can confirm as always in KY yesterday,
[00:25:40] is it true that you have a negative, okay. You're not anti-social and miserable enough
[00:25:46] to be Marx. No, I'm not. I am not. I am a poster, but I'm not like,
[00:25:50] I'm not miserable enough for that, for sure. Neither am I dirty enough. Let's be real. That
[00:26:00] dude did not wash. Okay. He was under surveillance, as I'm sure I am under some semblance of
[00:26:09] surveillance as well, either by the Israeli state or by the American one at this point. I suspect,
[00:26:16] right? But, uh, Machita is so boring. One day, if there's like FOIA investigations into like what
[00:26:25] kind of notes they have for your boy, they're going to be like, this guy literally does nothing. Okay?
[00:26:33] They're going to, they're going to, they're going to, the notes are going to read, he just streams
[00:26:40] all day. And then he just, he, he stopped streaming, eats dinner, jerks off and passes
[00:26:49] out. This is unbelievably boring. He watches the most vanilla porn and, and he passes
[00:26:55] out. This is, he's like a robot every day. It's the same shit. He wakes up in the morning.
[00:27:02] works out. This man's life is unbelievably boring with the exception of, you know, what
[00:27:11] he's doing for a living. Yeah, I don't even listen to music. Well, the FOIA definitely
[00:27:21] won't say you game. That's for damn sure. Okay, then eventually they'll just go home
[00:27:29] and copy paste their nose over and over and to pretend they're working. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
[00:27:34] the, in many ways, I'm probably the perfect. I am probably the perfect person to surveil
[00:27:45] for like the lazy agent, you know? What is this? Billy, Billy, uh, Chinese netizens alert
[00:27:56] got me so confused, double door fridge. Even I a grown man think he's handsome.
[00:28:01] Welcome Hassan to visit China again. Hassan is an interesting American who doesn't get brainwashed by US media or fall for their expectation management.
[00:28:07] Hassan has his own perspective. And I think he's an interesting American.
[00:28:09] Hassan actually overlooked that visiting China would allow him to experience per electric cars, electronic products, et cetera,
[00:28:14] which would greatly increase his global reach because people around the world love seeing China's technology and infrastructure development.
[00:28:19] True. Dude, so handsome. This guy's looks a peak, bro. You're too handsome. Why are you?
[00:28:23] Why are there so many comments saying he should run for office is much more effective from the campaign for bristles in the run
[00:28:27] Himself he rose the famous internet celebrities influence among his mainstream young audience isn't limited by geography running for Congress requires local relevance
[00:28:34] Otherwise, what's the point of constituent services? Oh my god. What the hell Chinese netizens are so on it
[00:28:41] They know me
[00:28:42] They know me better than than half of this community knows me. You know what I mean?
[00:28:48] They get it
[00:28:49] Um, and then there are those overly critical comments under every video saying this is useless or that won't work
[00:28:54] What they're doing now within the current system is most likely the way to bring about any change people really think there's some instant solution
[00:29:00] So the revolution in the US they just end up suicide with eight bulls in the back the next day
[00:29:04] Warning for every shimmer neglecting their bdb channel each glazing comment will cost them 20k won
[00:29:08] The only way to clear the debt is to resume piker bdb service
[00:29:12] rfn
[00:29:14] Day 152 of pbs not for us to see n people
[00:29:18] Fun fact, International Workers' Day was established commemorate the struggles of the American working
[00:29:23] class in the late 19th century, and Americans don't celebrate it most eye-catching in the crowd so
[00:29:26] handsome. Chinese posters understand US political system better than most Americans do. I mean,
[00:29:31] that's normal. That's actually so normal. That's not just exclusive to China either. That's just
[00:29:39] the rest of the world. I think I had a better understanding of American politics growing up
[00:29:43] in Turkey than the average American did. That's a totally, totally, that's a normal thing for
[00:29:51] the rest of the world because you kind of have to pay attention to American politics when you're
[00:29:55] living over there because everything that America decides to do touches the rest of the world in
[00:30:03] you know, very devastating ways. So that's, that's part of the reason why I
[00:30:14] have an international audience as well. What is this? The 1930s called they want
[00:30:20] Hassan Pikerback. Oh my god, dude. Yes, yes, yes. The Piker Broadcasting Service,
[00:30:28] This, the Piker Broadcasting Service actually is not the Piker Broadcasting Service, okay?
[00:30:35] It's ISCRA.
[00:30:37] That's what it is.
[00:30:39] That's what it is.
[00:30:40] The PBS is the real, the real Marxist newspaper for the social Democrats.
[00:30:50] Accidental FDR, for instance, the 1930s called, they want Hassan Piker back, yeah, it's FDR,
[00:30:54] but more radical.
[00:30:55] rationalization for destruction of violence in the U.S. traced back to the early 20th century.
[00:31:07] PBS The Pravda Broadcasting Service.
[00:31:16] Psychosexual delirium about his soma continued till morale improves me to my wife. If you're more
[00:31:21] If you're more trusted by me shacking up with a stripper than by millions of people lacking healthcare, you don't understand morals. Wait, what?
[00:31:29] Dude, what the hell Jonathan Chate? Why is he so crazy? Why?
[00:31:35] New hit piece angle your Al Capone
[00:31:40] Wouldn't PBS be the daily working out the problem? No, it's it's just well adjusted to the current time frame and be e-scra
[00:31:51] Would that's what PBS would be?
[00:32:01] It's adjusted to the current political struggle
[00:32:08] in the country, current social struggle in the country.
[00:32:15] Anyway, talk like they did on the radio in the 30s.
[00:32:20] was FDR a socialist? No, no, he was not. Why are you saying yes? FDR was not a socialist.
[00:32:30] Okay. He was not. I mean, he was probably one of the most based American presidents.
[00:32:37] You know, he's up there for sure. But no, he was not a socialist. Anyway, we'll, we'll
[00:32:46] get to all of this. FDR, he was, he caved to the demands of the socialists, the communists,
[00:32:54] the trade unionists, the anarchists, right? I mean, he kind of had to. He was a Trotskyist.
[00:33:04] Anyway, it can be argued that every single US president was a war criminal. Yes, you can,
[00:33:11] I mean, at a certain point, yeah, no shit. I mean, it's true, but like it's to every
[00:33:17] fucking president, every, every leader around the world. There is, unless you have no motion
[00:33:23] whatsoever, you're going to do some fucking crimes. Okay. Don't make me go back to on
[00:33:29] authority. That's just what authority is. Okay. It's true.
[00:33:41] I, um, I kind of dunked on her a little bit because Shannon Watts did this unbelievably
[00:33:46] annoying thing where she took, uh, a super cool take from our goat, I was supposed to
[00:33:53] be at this event by the way.
[00:33:55] Um, but because I was traveling so much, I was like, I'm going to go home.
[00:33:59] Um, FDR did not believe in socialism in one state.
[00:34:03] He said all 50 can have a little FDR was not a,
[00:34:10] committed believer in a permanent international, a permanent all-state socialism solution.
[00:34:16] Or no, he said he wanted a permanent, he wanted a permanent all 50-state socialism solution.
[00:34:21] Sorry, he was a trot. He was not. Everyone can have a little bit of socialism.
[00:34:28] You skipped Detroit, shame. Okay, whatever. I'm sorry. I know. I can't be everywhere all at once.
[00:34:33] Okay, I have obligations. I have obligations to you guys, ironically enough, and to my family,
[00:34:40] into my loved ones and to my dog like I have to I can't I can't be out here all the time non-stop okay
[00:34:49] here's Abdul making a totally reasonable take that Shannon Watts who is one of those like
[00:34:54] mom's demand action activists uh who got on the uh yeah I have obligations of kaya I have to give
[00:35:01] her a zap I have to give her a shocking I have to I have to be here to give her a daily shocking
[00:35:08] you already know what it is okay let's just what is this mom realize the FBI
[00:35:16] follows her sons we already watched that we already watched it okay let's start
[00:35:23] with Abdul and Israel are not the same as Judaism and the Jewish people
[00:35:38] I venerate Judaism and I venerate the Jewish people. I stand with Judaism and I stand with the Jewish people.
[00:35:45] Dude, the altars are going to be mad. They're going to be like, wow, dude, you're doing Jewish exceptionalism.
[00:35:53] Wow, another Zionist. They're going to be like, wow, I can't believe you said this.
[00:36:00] I can't believe you said this. Don't you know the only the only way the only viable way for you to actually sufficiently
[00:36:10] Attacked the state of Israel is by saying yes all Jews care about is the state of Israel
[00:36:16] You have to you have to basically operate on the nick went as playing field. Okay
[00:36:20] kind of cringe but fuck we ball I mean he first of all he has to hammer it up
[00:36:30] okay he's he's Egyptian and he's Muslim and he his name is Abdul Rahman okay
[00:36:37] and secondly it's perfectly fine like the thing that fucking annoys me in some
[00:36:43] respects is that like I'm a socialist okay it's kind of a Jewish thing in some
[00:36:53] respects like the Nazis weren't wrong when they were like yo what's up with all
[00:36:57] these fucking Marx's they're all Jewish they were kind of right okay Jews were
[00:37:03] pretty fucking radical for the longest goddamn time it's like a knowing as fuck
[00:37:07] that to just come from that perspective to come from that background to have like
[00:37:12] all of your, you know, formative thinkers be a big chunk of them, be Jewish, okay, and then to,
[00:37:20] and then to turn around and fucking be like,
[00:37:26] have all these fucking people, have all these fucking people be like, you're anti-Semitic.
[00:37:32] What are you saying, Clip? When they were talking about, like, when they were talking about Jewish
[00:37:36] Bolshevism, it's not wrong. A lot of Jews were radical, and it's a good thing. That's not a bad
[00:37:41] thing. This is a socialist community. Okay.
[00:37:46] Brother, you're gonna get clips so hard for this. Oh, shut up
[00:37:50] enough. It doesn't matter. Stop being so fucking ass pain. Oh
[00:37:55] my God. I know. I know. I know. Anyway, one of the pillars of
[00:38:04] Judaism is social justice, which is most likely one of the
[00:38:06] reasons why a lot of Jewish people are radical. Yeah, that's
[00:38:09] That's why it's so fucking annoying whenever people are just like, wow, wow, you're anti-Semitic.
[00:38:13] It's like, bitch, what are you talking about?
[00:38:18] What the fuck are you talking about?
[00:38:20] This new like Zionist, Zionist Judaism is like a new phenomena.
[00:38:26] It's the last 100 years.
[00:38:28] Before that, for thousands of years, you know, Jews were the guys who were like, let's fucking
[00:38:33] fix this shit, you know, let's, what's going on here.
[00:38:35] We got to, we got to work on advocacy.
[00:38:38] got to work on social justice. We got to advance society in a meaningful way. And it was not
[00:38:44] just, obviously it wasn't just Jewish people, but like a big percentage of Jewish people
[00:38:51] by virtue of, I guess, being on the receiving end of pogroms and hatred and enmity were fairly
[00:38:59] radical people. And most, the overwhelming majority of socialist leaders, Marxist and
[00:39:10] Lenin himself, obviously, the goat, they understood how reactionaries would choose to divide classes,
[00:39:21] choose to divide the working class by focusing on and fomenting hatred, not just amongst,
[00:39:28] just direct enmity towards the Jews, but towards, you know, black and brown people as well.
[00:39:34] This was, they were woke.
[00:39:38] How do we forget about all this shit?
[00:39:41] I just don't understand.
[00:39:42] Like I, anyway, um, it's very frustrating, unrelated, but did you see the board name
[00:39:57] biopic by the nirvana guys. No. Anyway, let's get back to the Abdul El Sayed thing.
[00:40:10] Trump just told Fox News in Iran, be blown off the face of the earth if it targets US ships in
[00:40:15] the Strait of Hormuz. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to that in a second. Yeah, I gotta have Mollie
[00:40:19] Crabapple on to talk about her book on the Jewish bond because this is precisely what she covers.
[00:40:24] But, in any case, let's continue.
[00:40:28] What the Jewish people, and the single most dangerous thing that they've tried to tell
[00:40:37] us is that somehow they can extend the definition of anti-Semitism to include a foreign government
[00:40:42] in its leaders.
[00:40:43] I call bullshit no.
[00:40:44] No.
[00:40:45] No, if you believe that anti-Semitism extends to include a foreign government in APAC, you
[00:40:56] are creating a dangerous circumstance.
[00:41:00] So it is important for us to recognize that we love Judaism and the Jewish people because
[00:41:05] we love people.
[00:41:07] Yeah, but also, I want to extend on this one more time, whenever motherfuckers are like
[00:41:12] freaking out. Whenever motherfuckers are freaking out about the whole like, this is Jewish exceptionalism.
[00:41:22] Okay. I can't stress this enough. It's virtually impossible for you to be a well-read Marxist
[00:41:33] in any way, shape, or form, and not have some of the more formative work in your ideological
[00:41:43] development be like some of your, some of the most formative Marxist texts come from
[00:41:53] Jews.
[00:41:54] Okay, yeah, Rosa Luxemburg, great example.
[00:41:58] Even if you are repeating things that you've heard from myself or repeating things that you
[00:42:05] heard from other people without recognizing where that comes from, you're most likely repeating
[00:42:15] something that a radical, revolutionary Jewish thinker wrote about probably 100 years ago.
[00:42:28] Brother, one is for talking. The other is for private time. Wait, what?
[00:42:37] Angles. Hence, anti-Semitism is merely the reaction of declining medieval social strata
[00:42:49] against the modern society consisting essentially of capitalists and wage laborers so that it
[00:42:54] all serves are, so all it serves are reactionary ends under a perpently socialist cloak.
[00:43:00] And this is not just about antisemitism, antisemitism is just one of the more popular
[00:43:04] versions of reactionary thought at the time. I mean, Lenin himself very clearly, Lenin
[00:43:11] himself also very clearly and openly stated, if you want to engage in any form of talism,
[00:43:22] form of opportunism, then what you are, what you would do, what you would insist upon is
[00:43:29] to lean into anti-semitic tendencies, the anti-semitic ideology, because that was what
[00:43:34] was fucking popping at the time. That's not supposed to be the case, because it's totally
[00:43:43] outside of an understanding of class. It's just, I'm not going to go into the
[00:43:51] Lennon speech one more time, but it's not just about Jews either. This is about
[00:44:01] every other group. I mean, in the United States of America, in the United
[00:44:07] States of America, there are obviously other groups that are directly in the
[00:44:11] the crosshairs, undocumented migrants, queer people, women, it's just, it's always the
[00:44:31] same. Anyway, the Jews in Germany were murdered precisely because they were wealthy. Lord,
[00:44:45] this is insane stuff. Oh my God. That is insane. That is insane. You're so fucking stupid.
[00:44:57] Hey, she's pro-Israel so she is to say it
[00:45:01] Dude dude dude
[00:45:04] She read mine comp and was like yeah, this Hitler guy
[00:45:09] What the fuck?
[00:45:13] Hey yo
[00:45:15] Hey yo, Matt Stoller responded Nazi propaganda about Jews being wealthy wasn't actually true
[00:45:22] Jasper yikes
[00:45:24] You anti-semitic cow
[00:45:27] near attend to be like, I don't understand. Yeah, Jews are magic money people. That's
[00:45:34] why they killed them. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, these guys are so, these guys are so stupid.
[00:45:46] Yeah. Except remember, it doesn't matter because obviously she's pro Israel. So that's, that's
[00:45:56] That's what matters, right? That's what fucking matters. No one is ever going to look at this.
[00:46:01] No one understands, uh, uh, how, how ridiculous this is. No one understands that this is straight
[00:46:06] up verbatim rehashing Nazi propaganda, right? There's so much anti-Semitism in the US. Matt
[00:46:13] Stowler's, uh, response was there's so much anti-Semitism in the US that the four of the
[00:46:17] top 10 richest people in the world are American Jewish men. These programs must be starting
[00:46:20] any second now. And then near attend, it goes, the Jews in Germany were murdered precisely
[00:46:24] because they were wealthy. Lord, this is insane stuff.
[00:46:27] See, this is the inverse of, this is the opposite of what I was saying, where it was like the
[00:46:33] Nazis kept repeatedly talking about Judeo-Bolshevism. There is definitely a little bit more truth
[00:46:38] about Jewish communism, Jewish socialism, and Jewish radicalism, and revolutionary politics
[00:46:46] within large sub-sex of Jewish society than the idea that they had their hands in all
[00:46:52] the money and controlled the money supply and were profoundly powerful in Weimar Germany
[00:46:58] or whatever the fuck.
[00:47:00] Yeah, there is at least evidence from the numerous radical Jewish thinkers that, you
[00:47:08] know, were at the forefront of these movements specifically in Germany as well.
[00:47:18] Um, yeah, remember this
[00:47:38] establishment them also retweeting the analysis yet, of course, I can't believe I couldn't
[00:47:42] finish this one on the low side statement from start to finish one minute and 27 seconds.
[00:47:47] I'm gonna run it
[00:48:17] they've tried to tell us is that somehow they can extend the definition of anti-Semitism
[00:48:21] to include a foreign government and its leaders. I call bullshit no. No. If you believe that
[00:48:32] anti-Semitism extends to include a foreign government in APEC, you are creating a dangerous
[00:48:39] circumstance. So it is important for us to recognize that we love Judaism and the Jewish
[00:48:45] people because we love people and we love Palestinians and their rights because we love people
[00:48:51] and we love that our tax dollars gets spent here on schools here and health care here
[00:48:58] because we love people. You cannot claim that human rights end at a border. You cannot claim
[00:49:08] that you want to invest in our kids when you send our money abroad to kill other people's
[00:49:12] kids, you cannot claim it.
[00:49:14] Great take.
[00:49:16] Of course, you know, the take alone, very popular.
[00:49:22] People loved it.
[00:49:23] One person on the other hand did not like it, okay?
[00:49:27] Shannon Watts, author, New York Times bestseller, fired up, organized their fire starter university
[00:49:34] founder emerita of mom's demand action.
[00:49:37] Remember, Mom's Demand Action is an anti-gun violence,
[00:49:41] a gun violence prevention, anti-school shooting,
[00:49:44] advocacy organization, right?
[00:49:47] That's what Shannon Watts is known for, okay?
[00:49:54] So that's what she used to be known for.
[00:49:57] Now she's known for just like attacking critics of Israel,
[00:50:00] prominent critics of Israel.
[00:50:02] I don't know why, it's very fucking annoying.
[00:50:06] I mean, I do know why, okay?
[00:50:07] I don't know if there's like some big donors
[00:50:10] that donated the mom's demand that also were just like,
[00:50:14] hey, also you have to be pro-Israel or something.
[00:50:17] I don't know what the fuck it is, okay?
[00:50:20] But it is ridiculous for this person to be this aggressive.
[00:50:30] Okay, for this, this person to be this aggressively
[00:50:33] in defense of Israel.
[00:50:34] So, she says, I love Jews as long as they reject Israel,
[00:50:38] does not seem like a winning message.
[00:50:40] First of all, you'd be surprised.
[00:50:43] Secondly, okay, secondly, I said,
[00:50:49] this person went from trying to stop school shootings
[00:50:51] in the US to demanding more school shootings
[00:50:53] in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran.
[00:50:55] And it's actually unbelievable,
[00:50:58] which seemingly, seemingly frustrated her,
[00:51:03] her, definitely touched a nerve. So she said, anyone who knows me knows I'm against war crimes
[00:51:08] being committed by the Israeli and American governments accusing me of wanting children
[00:51:11] killed in the Middle East because I oppose anti-Semitism to the sickness on the left.
[00:51:15] Fuck you, Hassan Piker. Okay.
[00:51:24] I want to reply and just be like, say Israel's an apartheid state committing a genocide right now.
[00:51:33] I apologize for going after critics of Israel.
[00:51:58] Okay. So you condemn the United States for aligning with Israel.
[00:52:17] Actually, you know what? I'm just going to go quick. I'm going to go with
[00:52:20] with, say, Israel's unapartheid state that has committed a genocide right now, then.
[00:52:38] What is this what is this hold up.
[00:53:02] Is this the guy liberals are trying to whitewash by saying you're just as bad as him?
[00:53:13] Oh, right.
[00:53:16] What is this?
[00:53:17] Yeah.
[00:53:18] Yeah.
[00:53:19] USA Today, there was another article by a person who's like unbelievably pro-Israel,
[00:53:24] a person who's like Israel first, who wrote another USA Today article comparing me to Nikola
[00:53:31] Fuentes, okay? Nicolas Fuentes. And of course, we know it's bullshit, right? We obviously
[00:53:43] know it's bullshit. It's complete bullshit. And I don't even know if there's any, you
[00:53:51] know, there's any reason to go through it one more time. But every other week, it feels
[00:53:56] like they keep writing this same exact article over and over again. I mean, APAC promoted
[00:54:04] the article as well. There's also an unheard article that came out. Apparently, Shoycott
[00:54:12] was going beast mode back in the day. Wait, what? And while Shokhar Bharti may indeed still
[00:54:20] have a friendly relationship with AOC, as he says he does, he may have pissed off too many
[00:54:23] the wrong people in Congress during his brief stint as their chief of staff in 2019 as a
[00:54:26] chronicle report today, citing people who know, including House Speaker Emerita, then
[00:54:30] chief of staff Drew Hamill.
[00:54:31] Chakrabarty was likely far from ASEA staff for mouthing off on Twitter too much about
[00:54:34] their more moderate Democratic colleagues in the House.
[00:54:40] This is tenure in that role was only about seven months long.
[00:54:45] Hmm, I can either confirm nor deny any of the information that's on that is being reported
[00:54:55] on in this article, but perhaps you may have thought, perhaps you may have thought it's
[00:55:06] odd that I am, uh, you know, uh, so in the tank for a random sent to millionaire.
[00:55:17] Perhaps you may have found that to be odd. You might have thought Hasan, aren't you a
[00:55:21] fucking socialist? Why are you so deep in the tank? Why are you promoting this random fucking
[00:55:28] Silicon Valley sent to millionaire who, who, you know, has definitely donated to like random
[00:55:41] right-wingers too. No one cares us on, no one cares us on, no one cares us on. Buddy,
[00:55:46] cool guy streamer too, you're in my chat. Okay, you're in my chat on a SOC account
[00:55:52] And you've subscribed in the past you've been following for probably years kind of feels like you do
[00:56:15] Yeah
[00:56:19] So
[00:56:22] As I was saying, this is not surprising to me, or at least this part is not surprising
[00:56:29] to me at all.
[00:56:30] And if you were paying attention back then, you were paying attention back then, you would
[00:56:39] have known.
[00:56:40] What is this?
[00:56:43] You were mentioned on Geopold and it threw me off LeMau?
[00:56:48] Is this a two hour video on Epstein's Empire?
[00:56:51] the fuck and it threw me off? What is this?
[00:57:21] Yeah, Hassan pika the man himself post
[00:57:27] Pickles attention to who silent about the new f-steen drops
[00:57:32] And I took that personally he said
[00:57:40] He said I took that I took that personally
[00:57:43] Bro see his ass got his ass felt called out his ass felt so called out
[00:57:55] He had to do a fucking two-hour documentary on the Epstein leaks
[00:58:00] Okay
[00:58:02] That's all I'm saying if the shoe fits to this on X my friend who owes me loads of money
[00:58:08] replied geopold dot-dot-dot as a joke it was a joke it was totally a joke then
[00:58:16] Hassan Piker replied to him saying that's what I'm saying exclamation mark
[00:58:22] go yo yo what I do bruh dude dude dude what did I do let's not go there man
[00:58:30] look I was there for the free booze okay nothing else but if you see something
[00:58:34] like this. It's fake. It's AI. Okay. I would never hang out with Kia Stammer. Okay, I would never hang out with him. This photo cannot be real. I wouldn't record that.
[00:58:46] Bro, bro felt so disturbed by the correct allegations. He had to do a two hour, he had to do a two hour documentary on it. You see this? Do you see this? Do you see the impact? Look at that, man.
[00:59:04] And flicked up with star okay, sorry just needed to clear that one out
[00:59:10] But look back to the new files drop even if all the files were released in this manner
[00:59:16] Yeah, there is still shit. We will simply never ever know America's okay
[00:59:22] He was there for the water slides. Yeah, I mean he's he's victim age, so
[00:59:34] Cure is not in those rooms. Cure and Elon Musk, the only two men that were so unbearable that even the international consortium of pedophiles were like, bro, you shouldn't show up.
[00:59:49] And this is this clowns only comeback anytime you disagree with him on anything he insists
[01:00:03] you say the words anti-sinus, genocide or APEC is the leftist version of Betelgeuse?
[01:00:31] just kind of feels like she can't say it. She can't say it. This is, this clowns only
[01:00:39] come back anytime you disagree with him on anything. He insists you should, the words
[01:00:43] anti-zionist genocide or APEC is the leftist version of Beetlejuice. Hmm, kind of odd,
[01:00:49] kind of odd that you can't say.
[01:00:51] By the way, I like that this is a leftist thing. Yeah. The classic leftist, uh, international
[01:00:58] criminal justice, international court of justice, the classic international criminal court, okay?
[01:01:07] These are the leftist institutions. The fucking leftist institutions like Amnesty International,
[01:01:14] Human Rights Watch, Betsellem, it's so ridiculous. You sound like a right winger when you say that.
[01:01:25] Okay, you sound like an unbelievably reactionary person when you go a bunch of pussies that are
[01:01:33] saying Israel's committing a genocide. Debate, Lord reply, sometimes you gotta,
[01:01:43] sometimes you gotta entertain it. If someone is behaving that bad faith, you have to also,
[01:01:48] So, you have to also entertain it, you know?
[01:01:55] Like, you can't just go, oh, that's a buzzword in this circumstance, okay?
[01:02:10] Sometimes you are condemned to the tools of your enemy, yeah.
[01:02:16] To be fair, Amnesty International has always been much further left in the Democratic Party.
[01:02:23] Okay, but again, if you're running around saying Amnesty International is fucking woke and libtarded, then you're not a liberal, okay?
[01:02:32] You are closer to a, a Rush Limbaugh-style individual than anybody else.
[01:02:38] that's it. But yeah, I doubt that she'll be able to say it. Yeah, Beetlejuice, it's
[01:03:00] like Beetlejuice. Okay, good response. Reducing, you know, a legal accusation that is advanced
[01:03:12] by numerous international courts at this point, and virtually every single human rights organization
[01:03:22] is just simply a buzzword. What the hell is a aborobo pill?
[01:03:32] I have said it's a genocide that's certainly searchable here on this hellscape.
[01:03:38] But it's much easier for you to accuse me than wanting children dead then to do that.
[01:03:43] That if you think Israel's committing a genocide, if you agree that Israel's committing a genocide,
[01:04:06] Then why do you spend all your time attacking its critics?
[01:04:27] Like if Israel's committee, if Israel the state is committing a genocide and you have
[01:04:32] already acknowledged that Israel is committing a genocide, then any kind of separation from
[01:04:37] the nation state of Israel and Jews would not be something that frustrates you. Okay?
[01:04:44] That's why I don't believe it. That's why I don't believe it because this entire conversation
[01:04:49] started. Hold on. I'm going to, I'm going to actually show this and be like, so then
[01:04:56] this is good. Where is it? Where the fuck was it? Yeah. Here. I mean, it's it's that simple.
[01:05:09] I love Jews as long as they reject Israel does not seem like a winning message. But how does
[01:05:15] that make sense? It is bad faith, of course bad faith. I'm just gonna fucking slam that.
[01:05:43] If you think Israel is committing a genocide and is an apartheid state, then separating
[01:06:11] This state from Jews in the US is probably a winning message.
[01:06:27] And combating.
[01:06:33] Don't you think?
[01:06:36] Look. Or Boris Pilled self-suck. No, I mean, it's just like, it's not, it's not sincere. It's not
[01:06:49] sincere. She's either insincere or hasn't like thought about this that much at all. You know what I mean?
[01:07:06] You know, can we separate Israel from its genocidal settler colonial actions and just
[01:07:20] go back to business as usual?
[01:07:22] Yeah.
[01:07:23] Like, it doesn't make sense.
[01:07:29] It does not make sense.
[01:07:30] If you think Israel's committing a genocide is in apartheid state, then separating the
[01:07:32] state from Jews in the U.S. is probably a winning message in combating anti-Semitism,
[01:07:35] Don�t you think?
[01:07:48] If you agree that Israel is committing a genocide and is in apartheid state than separating
[01:07:54] this day from Jews in the US probably winning message in combating anti-Semitism don't you think?
[01:08:12] You misspelled anti-Semitism did I? Fuck. Did I? God damn it.
[01:08:18] If you agree that Israel is committing a genocide and is an apartheid state, then separating
[01:08:26] the state from- Wait, no I didn't.
[01:08:29] You fucking asshole.
[01:08:33] I did not.
[01:08:36] Then separating the state from Jews in the U.S. is probably a winning message.
[01:08:45] combating anti-Semitism, don't you think? Y'all are annoying. Why do you do this to me?
[01:08:54] Now they're gonna, now they're really gonna think you're anti-Semitic law? No, why would that,
[01:09:05] why would that be anti-Semitic? This is my point. My point is states are states, people are people,
[01:09:12] Okay, like the idea that an entire
[01:09:16] Religion of people are monolithic in their approach to the violence of a state is
[01:09:22] Unbelievably stupid. It's not just for Jews either. It's for every group like it's it's stupid
[01:09:28] It's a very stupid attitude to have I don't agree with it at all
[01:09:38] It's also ridiculous to
[01:09:42] Chatter is making a joke on if you would typo to anti-Semitism or we get called that in
[01:09:51] bad faith there is no way to avoid that label, but I appreciate your efforts nonetheless.
[01:10:05] You are only as strong as the dumbest chatter if you give him the time of day.
[01:10:23] Also I don't even know if she has ever said it.
[01:10:26] Has she ever said it?
[01:10:27] Has she ever said that it's a genocide?
[01:10:34] starving to death, and then you all could stop it to continue at today and continue to destroy
[01:10:38] Hamas. The genocide is also causing anti-Semitism. That's the only time where she said is a genocide.
[01:10:50] So, what's the argument here?
[01:11:00] So July 25th, 2025, she agrees.
[01:11:05] I assume you would agree because this is a statement of agreement.
[01:11:13] The genocide is causing anti-Semitism.
[01:11:20] this statement right here is, unironically, the exact same fucking thing that Abdullah
[01:11:27] al-Sayed is saying. Okay? This is, I mean, Abdullah al-Sayed obviously, you know, takes
[01:11:42] a principled stance and puts the victims of Israel's genocide first in his comments, but
[01:11:52] I guess he's saying it Egyptian style, so it's a little different, right?
[01:11:56] That's what it is, right?
[01:12:12] It's entering into some weird political space where you ought to hate the people who support
[01:12:16] the genocide, but it shouldn't be looped into their Jewishness.
[01:12:18] I think y'all arguing across semantic distinction that's important, only one of you.
[01:12:21] Wait, what?
[01:12:23] We are the ones who are saying it shouldn't be looped into their Jewishness.
[01:12:27] She's attacking that argument.
[01:12:29] That's Abdu'l-Elsaed's argument.
[01:12:31] Abdu'l-Elsaed's argument is literally, APEC and Israel are not the same as Judaism and
[01:12:36] the Jewish people.
[01:12:37] I love Judaism and I love the Jewish people.
[01:12:38] The single most dangerous thing they've tried to tell us is that somehow they can extend
[01:12:42] the definition of anti-Semitism to include a foreign government.
[01:12:47] That is in agreement in principle with the argument that she's presenting here.
[01:12:52] The genocide is also causing anti-semitism, so what is it?
[01:12:57] Is it when a Muslim man says it, you get scared, you get worried, is that what it is?
[01:13:01] He said it Muslim style.
[01:13:05] What's your fucking issue?
[01:13:06] What's your goddamn problem?
[01:13:18] That's it.
[01:13:27] I guess the big issue here is who's saying it, not what they're saying.
[01:13:33] Okay?
[01:13:36] That's the real problem here.
[01:13:38] Who's saying it?
[01:13:42] If it's a Muslim saying it Muslim style, then we don't like it.
[01:13:47] Yeah, he said it after narrowing his gaze.
[01:14:03] She argues with Mehdi about you here.
[01:14:05] I agree that she should have, but also what is this?
[01:14:09] was the list on a dark horse candidates sleeper means he'd support him. He wouldn't support
[01:14:13] Harris. He supported her to an extent. He was rightfully extremely critical of her cozy
[01:14:16] with Liz Cheney. He said she was too moderate yet also was to a right almost every major
[01:14:20] issue on the issue was on and many on the left care about most Gaza. Also, despite being
[01:14:24] in a purple state and being Jewish showed willingness at times, though not always admittedly
[01:14:27] to conditionate the Israel Harris never did. Even when she was the nominee and was free
[01:14:31] to do so. I agree that she should have, but also like much of the rest of the party began
[01:14:34] opposing the genocide after the election. But as recently as April, he voted against
[01:14:38] holding broad military aid arm sales to Israel. And in July, he voted to oppose
[01:14:41] blocks on bombs and major munitions to Israel, hardly pikers positions. Yeah.
[01:14:46] I was, the reason why I said he was a dark horse is because of what he did.
[01:14:50] Okay. I didn't say I love John Ossoff. I don't know why this is turning into,
[01:14:55] Hassan really wants John Ossoff to be president or some shit.
[01:14:59] I said, depending on how he maneuvers around this issue and others.
[01:15:04] Okay, John also could be an interesting candidate.
[01:15:14] It's like the lens being put on Jewish people differently than the rest of the population
[01:15:16] kind of seems anti-Semitic to some.
[01:15:18] I don't think that's a point of concern worthy of much thought in a world with genocide
[01:15:21] for the record, but I can see the rationale.
[01:15:23] No, their rationale is unbelievably stupid because we are the ones who are saying, we
[01:15:28] are the motherfucking people that are literally saying that this is state violence.
[01:15:33] This is a state that's conducting an apartheid.
[01:15:36] If you support that, then you suck.
[01:15:38] It doesn't matter if you're Jewish, doesn't matter if you're Christian, doesn't matter
[01:15:40] if you're Muslim.
[01:15:41] Okay?
[01:15:42] You suck.
[01:15:43] You're a bad person.
[01:15:44] Okay?
[01:15:45] It has nothing to do with Judaism, in particular.
[01:15:49] While the wires have been crossed for years and years deliberately to conflate Zionism
[01:15:56] and Judaism in the United States of America and all around the world, we oppose that.
[01:16:02] Okay?
[01:16:03] We oppose that because it actually feeds into antisemitism.
[01:16:18] In any case, it's like it's virtually impossible to have a nuanced conversation on this issue,
[01:16:27] I'll still keep doing it, you know.
[01:16:40] But what's really fucking stupid about this argument is that she seemingly agrees with
[01:16:46] it.
[01:16:47] She just doesn't agree with the messenger.
[01:16:48] Okay.
[01:16:49] So perhaps there is some underlying biases there that causes her to not understand this
[01:16:55] message when it's coming from someone like Abdullah, when it's coming from someone like myself, for example.
[01:17:01] Okay. That's what it is. Now, I have a more nuanced approach to this issue on top of everything else,
[01:17:11] where obviously, I also talk about the fact that a lot of Jewish institutions that absolutely ride
[01:17:19] for Israel and will fundraise for Israel will fundraise for the IDF okay what is this she's
[01:17:31] clearly a debate pervert I mean she's not responding to my last take because I think
[01:17:35] I have her dead to rights here but my point is my point is okay these people don't make
[01:17:47] any fucking sense, all right? They don't make any sense. If it's actually a country that's
[01:17:52] committing a genocide, then like, then, then why are you association? I wrote a tweet saying,
[01:17:56] I don't think it's a winning message. It insists that American Jews divorce themselves from Israel
[01:18:00] and actually believe it's anti-Semitic. And then you accuse me a mother on gun safety advocate
[01:18:04] it of celebrating the murders of children? That's it's oh no. Moms could never be in,
[01:18:22] moms could never attack every fucking critic of Israel. If you agree that Israel is committing
[01:18:27] a genocide and it's in apartheid state then separating the state from Jews in the U.S.
[01:18:30] probably a winning message of combating anti-Semitism, don't you think? Again, answer my question.
[01:18:37] You're not answering my question. She altered on you. No, it doesn't matter at all. You
[01:18:43] are celebrating the murders of children. I wrote a tweet saying, I don't think it's
[01:18:48] a winning message to insist that American Jews divorce themselves from Israel. As a
[01:18:53] mother, wow, imagine having no empathy for hundreds of parents of dead children for no
[01:18:57] Yeah. Just answer my question, please.
[01:19:27] She's calling it anti-semitic. Why is it anti-semitic? If Israel is committing a
[01:19:36] genocide and is in apartheid state, why is it anti-semitic to, at least in this
[01:19:45] moment, or just in general, to say this has nothing to do with American Jews? How
[01:19:51] How is that anti-Semitic?
[01:19:54] It's anti-Semitic to consistently say, no, no, no, this apartheid state committing a genocide
[01:20:00] is actually doing it for Jews.
[01:20:05] Read my message.
[01:20:06] Wait, wait, wait, she's taking, separating literally.
[01:20:08] She's saying, you're saying American Jews should divorce from Israel and not non-Jews
[01:20:12] must think of them separately.
[01:20:20] are we talking about? There is no literal interpretation. It doesn't matter. This interpretation
[01:20:36] is exactly what I'm saying. I'm saying that American Jews have nothing to do with the
[01:20:44] The exception of those who support Israel personally, American Druze as a, as an entire
[01:20:50] community are not broadly defined by support for Israel.
[01:20:56] Okay.
[01:20:57] No group is a monolith.
[01:21:01] Yeah.
[01:21:03] American Druze.
[01:21:04] Yes.
[01:21:05] I said it.
[01:21:06] I put an R in there on accident.
[01:21:08] You got me.
[01:21:09] Oh my God.
[01:21:10] I can't even fucking talk.
[01:21:12] I just did.
[01:21:30] No you didn't.
[01:21:31] What the fuck is going on?
[01:21:34] Do you think that, okay, I'm just gonna say, why do you think it's anti-Semitic to say
[01:21:52] Israel, an apartheid state that's doing a genocide, is separate
[01:22:22] from American Jews.
[01:22:27] Come on, fucker, you stole my sweet tweet.
[01:22:29] If you're saying Israel's committing a genocide
[01:22:31] as an apartheid, why is it anti-Semitic to say
[01:22:32] that this has nothing to do with American Jews?
[01:22:39] Is separate from American Jews.
[01:22:43] I know, I know she knows what I'm saying,
[01:22:47] and she's just fucking playing dumb.
[01:22:52] I know she knows what I'm saying. She's just playing dumb.
[01:23:13] Chatters, right? If you can criticize, I think you can criticize this as a government without being anti-Semitic.
[01:23:18] that Israel is and should be separate from Judaism implies there are two kinds of Jews,
[01:23:21] one good one bad. What are you talking about?
[01:23:33] Why do you think it's anti-Semitic to say Israel and apartheid states is doing genocide
[01:23:36] is separate from American Jews.
[01:23:49] Maybe she'll answer.
[01:23:50] She's a mom against babies.
[01:23:54] Everyone be quiet.
[01:23:55] The person who doesn't know what the Western Wall is is deciding on which Jews are good
[01:23:57] and which Jews are bad.
[01:23:58] Oh my God, I love when people talk about the fucking Western Wall's significance.
[01:24:03] Like, they're like, we got them.
[01:24:05] he doesn't he doesn't understand the western walls like significance in
[01:24:09] Judaism I know where it is I just don't fucking know what the significant or
[01:24:13] didn't know what the significance was and there's nothing to do with the
[01:24:18] fucking calculation
[01:24:35] I feel like reading comprehension is playing a big role. No. No. It's not, it's not reading
[01:24:50] comprehension. This is her being, uh, deliberately obtuse. Okay. This is her being deliberately
[01:24:57] obtuse because she doesn't want to fucking, it's not a real misunderstanding. Okay. I'm
[01:25:02] I'm sorry, this is not a misunderstanding.
[01:25:06] I'm not misunderstanding her.
[01:25:08] I'm judging her off of what she chooses to spend her time on.
[01:25:13] If someone truly thought Israel was committing a genocide,
[01:25:17] they would not be spending every fucking waking moment
[01:25:20] going after its prominent critics.
[01:25:22] Okay?
[01:25:26] This is her being intentionally obtuse
[01:25:29] trying to play a fucking semantics game.
[01:25:32] Yeah, new meta is that people admit it's a genocide, but act like it isn't actually
[01:25:39] a big deal.
[01:25:40] Yeah, that's ridiculous.
[01:25:41] Why are you trying to get this concession from this down last?
[01:25:44] I'm not.
[01:25:45] I'm trying to show that she is inconsistent.
[01:25:48] I'm trying to show to those who are paying close attention that not only is she inconsistent,
[01:25:54] but it doesn't make any sense.
[01:25:56] It's kind of like the, we have to send Israel defensive weapons argument.
[01:26:00] No, we have to punish Israel. Okay? If we agree that Israel is committing a genocide,
[01:26:05] which many people know that if that agreement is something that like government officials
[01:26:11] will openly say, right? All of a sudden, there are going to be demands for punishment,
[01:26:16] demands for accountability. That's the reason why many people refuse to say Israel is committing
[01:26:21] a genocide. This person has said Israel is committing a genocide. At least, you know,
[01:26:25] she claims she has said it over and over again, which means that there has to be punishments.
[01:26:31] You can't let a genocide go unpunished. That's fucking ridiculous, right?
[01:26:44] That's totally ridiculous.
[01:26:45] You can't have it both ways. So if she were to turn around and say yes, Israel's committed a genocide, but you guys are being anti-Semitic.
[01:26:59] If we went back and forth, if she conceded on these positions, then the question is, why are you spending all of your time attacking prominent critics of Israel who are calling out Israel for doing a genocide?
[01:27:13] genocide. Do you think genocide is some inconsequential statement? I do not. I'm anti-genocide. It seems
[01:27:21] you're not, right? The goal here for people who are actually anti-Zionists or actually anti-genocide
[01:27:28] even, anti-fascist, is to at first stop Israel, okay, and then punish Israel. It's that simple.
[01:27:43] Brother 30,000 people are watching are you on Twitter? Oh my god. Oh my god. I know dude. That's kind of what I do. Okay
[01:28:08] Did you see the pastor the biggest United Methodist church in the US is running for Senate as a Democrat
[01:28:12] I'm intrigued about him and how he will handle Israel Palestine because the UMC largely spores
[01:28:19] Palestine in the conflict.
[01:28:21] Are you talking about the person who is actually going to be taking over Jasmine Crockett's
[01:28:25] seat?
[01:28:26] I forget his name right now, but I don't know who, no, it's probably a different pastor,
[01:28:32] right?
[01:28:33] No, that's not a Senate seat.
[01:28:34] That's Adam Hamilton in Kansas.
[01:28:36] Oh, okay.
[01:28:41] Tallarico. No, there's a person in Texas that will be taking over Freddie, Freddie
[01:28:51] Haynes. Yes, Frederick Haynes. He's goaded. He's awesome. Frederick Haynes is his beast
[01:28:55] mode. And I'm very excited about that. Anyway, I'm very excited about his candidacy.
[01:29:07] All right, well whatever she's not gonna fucking respond
[01:29:20] But yeah, so there's also the the APAC
[01:29:25] What is this
[01:29:29] There's also here there's one more I'll do a sad moment and then there's also another
[01:29:34] APEC tweet as well. APEC is actively trying to minimize the sort of Nick Fuentes, the
[01:29:40] literal neo-Nazi, the idea that these fashions give literally a single fuck about the safety
[01:29:44] of American Jews beyond laughable. APEC, for all the legacy media's obsessive warnings
[01:29:48] about far-right extremist Nick Fuentes, it has shown far less interest in confronting
[01:29:51] a dangerous left-wing counterpart, Hassan Piker, okay?
[01:29:58] And it's a totally ridiculous thing to say. Hassan Piker is left's Nick Fuentes. Why did
[01:30:05] they embrace him? Opinion from USA Today, written by a person, Ingrid Jacques, who you might
[01:30:12] be shocked to find out, has tweeted extensively in support of Israel. Oh, how shocking, right?
[01:30:18] Hassan Piker's left, Nick Fuentes, why did they embrace him? While right-wing radicals
[01:30:22] draw intense scrutiny, influential left-wing figures with extremist rhetoric are often
[01:30:26] normalized by Democrats and major media outlets. For all the legacy media's
[01:30:29] obsessive warnings about fire extremist Nick Fuentes has shown far less interest.
[01:30:32] The New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg has called Fuentes a 27-year-old
[01:30:35] online influencer, a Hitler-loving white nationalist. The Times has run ominous
[01:30:39] headlines like Nick Fuentes' rise puts MAGA movement in a time of choosing.
[01:30:42] Nick Fuentes is a white nationalist problem for the right. The New Yorkers
[01:30:45] Jay Caspian warns that Fuentes is not just another alt-right boogeyman and that
[01:30:49] the rise of white nationalist streamers should worry us even more than it
[01:30:52] already does. And the Washington Post recently opined about how Fuentes
[01:30:55] spreads hate online and fans pay him hundreds of thousands of dollars.
[01:30:58] Many of these hand-raging pieces seek to tie Fuentes more broadly to the Republican party
[01:31:02] and President Donald Trump's MAGA base.
[01:31:04] Perhaps it's because Nick Fuentes had dinner with Donald Trump.
[01:31:08] Meanwhile, the news media largely ignores the rise of similarly repugnant force on the
[01:31:12] left.
[01:31:13] Some piker 34 has more than 3 million far streams of, you know, pikers and anti-zionist
[01:31:17] capitalist hating Marxist who appears far too comfortable with political violence so
[01:31:21] long as it serves the right cause.
[01:31:24] that while mainstream conservatives of large, you kept went this on the fringe.
[01:31:27] Democrats and much of the media have been far more willing to embrace piker.
[01:31:30] He was invited to be one of the creators for Kamala in 2024.
[01:31:33] This April, he also campaigned with Michigan's democratic Senate candidate, Abdul El Sayed.
[01:31:37] The times are in a glowing profile of piker a year ago, headline a progressive mind and
[01:31:40] a body made for the man is fear.
[01:31:42] It praised his brand of masculinity as both politically effective and a major source of
[01:31:45] his online appeal.
[01:31:47] Then this April, the Times published an interview with piker under the headline, the rich don't
[01:31:49] pay, but play by the rules.
[01:31:51] Why should I more on this interview in a bit?
[01:31:53] growing popularity among progressives has coincided with a broader and deeply disturbing rise in
[01:31:57] left-wing tolerance for political violence. Just on April 25th, a gunman targeted President
[01:32:01] Donald Trump of the White House Correspondents Association did her. Hey, that gunman, for the
[01:32:06] record, had a lot, had a worldview that was a lot closer to yours than mine, especially on the
[01:32:11] issue of Israel. Okay. Just saying the gunman was pro-Israel. Can't be given that to me.
[01:32:19] Hey, polling also suggests alarming ideological divide. After December of 2024 assassination
[01:32:35] of United healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, another survey found that a shocking 41% of
[01:32:38] voters under 30 viewed as murder is acceptable. The cultural environment makes pikers rhetoric,
[01:32:43] especially concerning on a show. He said, yeah, killed him, killed his motherfuckers,
[01:32:46] murders in the streets, blah, blah, blah. The New York times platform is extremism. Despite
[01:32:50] Parker's long record of violent and revolutionary rhetoric, the times has shown little hesitation
[01:32:54] in legitimizing him in an April video conversation with the Times opinion culture editor, Nadia
[01:32:59] Spiegelman and New Yorker, uh, Gia Tolentino.
[01:33:02] Parker casually joked alongside plenty of laughter about shoplifting or microliving as
[01:33:06] a form of political protest. The premise was absurd, but revealing. Yeah. Perhaps that's
[01:33:10] the reason why I was joking around because I also consider the premise to be absurd because
[01:33:13] I don't think it's like a serious or
[01:33:16] Sincere dog is shocking and electrifying how many bad articles coming out about you big dog
[01:33:21] What's going on? I love this kind of thing because these guys sincerely think that like I'm terrified of you saying that
[01:33:28] It like accusing me of shocking my dog
[01:33:32] You know, oh man, you are so clever. Hey, hey boomer
[01:33:37] You are so clever and so smart. You really got me well done chatter. We all think you're brilliant
[01:33:43] You know
[01:33:46] Yeah, I shocked I shocked Kaia to death as you can probably see right here. She's dead now. I shocked her so hard
[01:33:55] Got him. Yeah, you got me. I'm I'm I'm terrified of this
[01:34:02] 2014 account bro is 45 years old. Yeah, bro. Go fucking build a family. Okay. Go build a home start a family, buddy
[01:34:09] The fuck are you doing?
[01:34:13] Married how about you sure okay well married how about you kick brother
[01:34:23] Your wife is getting dug out every time that you're every time she says she's going out for
[01:34:29] groceries she is getting dug the fuck out I hate to report this to you okay but she is getting the
[01:34:37] most leg-crapping orgasms she has ever fucking received. You understand?
[01:34:49] Every time she says she's going, every time she says she's going out for groceries.
[01:34:54] Married man, grown as man in here being like, huh, shocking.
[01:35:12] Anyway, even more alarming was Parker's discussion about the assassination of CEO Brian Thompson,
[01:35:18] drawing on Frederick Engels, the Marx theorist and co-author of the Communist manifesto,
[01:35:21] and vote the concept of social murder to rationalize public sympathy for Thompson's killer.
[01:35:25] Brian Thompson was engaging in a tremendous amount of social murder. He went on to blame
[01:35:28] America's private health care system for the tremendous amounts of pain that argued that
[01:35:31] this systemic suffering explained why many people immediately understood or sympathized with
[01:35:35] Thompson's death. Yeah, this is my favorite type of person, by the way. The guy who like
[01:35:42] genuinely understands the point I was making and will just openly reveal it and then still go,
[01:35:47] but it's bad that he said it. Yeah, exactly. That's my point.
[01:35:59] How is this any different than he made a good point and I hated that?
[01:36:09] You're on your value, Tayman, right now, King. Thank you.
[01:36:11] you. Shots fired at the White House? Are they able to... Reporters of shots fired near
[01:36:22] the White House has placed a building on lockdown. Press had been gathered on the North Lawn
[01:36:26] and been washered into the press briefing room. Jesus Christ. Trump is live from the White
[01:36:31] House at the Small Business Summit. I guess they don't give a shit that shots were fired.
[01:36:37] we don't get covered correctly, but in terms of the truth, we were having 5,000, 6,000,
[01:36:44] 7,000, 10,000, 11,000. We need the ballroom. Shots fired. We need
[01:36:48] the ballroom. Look at that, folks. You hear that? Shots fired outside. You know what that,
[01:36:56] you know what time it is. It's ballroom time. Okay. You know what time it is. It's ballroom
[01:37:03] time. Obviously, obviously it's ballroom time. It's happening again and again. No shots would
[01:37:17] have been fired if the ballroom was there. Anyway, let's get back to this. Rather than
[01:37:22] clearly condemning murder, Piker framed, I did condemn it. I did. In other words, Piker
[01:37:26] sympathize with cold blood murder for social reasons.
[01:37:28] Democrats and legacy media are right to call out Nick Funtas. He deserves it, but that's
[01:37:31] no excuse for the very real extremists on the left. Okay. So, um, yeah. So she wrote
[01:37:39] this article, APAC boosted it, right? Uh, comparing me to Nick Fuentes here. Let's take
[01:37:43] a look at Nick Fuentes. Let's take a look at what Nick Fuentes is saying. We're already
[01:37:48] a non-white country. I just want to trigger warning, trigger warning. He will be saying
[01:37:55] the end where with the hard R country get a grip get real bro this is already we
[01:38:02] already live in Mogadishu we already live in Islamabad have you been outside
[01:38:09] LA Chicago New York we live in nigger hell and that's just what and you know
[01:38:16] it's what it is I got my James Fishback cool I shouldn't have said shouldn't
[01:38:24] said nigger hell with the quarter. I told myself before the show, I was like, don't say anything
[01:38:32] out of pocket. You're repping the campaign. I'm not on the campaign. I'm not involved,
[01:38:36] but I was like, don't say anything too crazy. Yeah. If you look at a guy, if you look at
[01:38:44] a guy like this and say that like, wow, this guy is like basically the same as Hassan Hassan,
[01:38:48] and I would fight her, you're an insane person, right? Yet APAC is making that comparison.
[01:38:55] This author is making that comparison. Perhaps there's a reason why a lot of adults in mainstream
[01:39:01] newsrooms don't make that comparison, because that's an insane comparison to make. And it's
[01:39:07] not one that actually ends up hurting me. It's one that ends up normalizing Nick Fuentes.
[01:39:14] Okay. So these groups openly wrote our democracy for unlimited support to kill
[01:39:20] Palestinian children. We have to act like they're paid stooge in the media class of
[01:39:23] anything worthwhile to say, which most people don't. Most people don't actually see that.
[01:39:28] Most people don't actually consider that to be worthwhile anyway, but they're still
[01:39:32] chirping regardless. And the reason why they're doing it is because there's a lot of
[01:39:37] very powerful big donors that obviously care about this and they just want to continue
[01:39:41] this media cycle over and over again, with the hopes that it just, it disciplines the
[01:39:47] rest of the media, or at the very least gums up the works, right? Make sure that every
[01:39:52] time I fucking have any conversations with anyone outside of my immediate circle, I have
[01:39:59] to address the same fucking five quotes over and over again. They also have to address
[01:40:04] it.
[01:40:05] try and punish people. We're now on month three of the media cycle, right? The combo
[01:40:13] of Israel's committing a genocide or the criticized Israel's criticized Jewish people
[01:40:16] broadly because they had that many Jewish people support Israel is actually Nick Flint's
[01:40:20] view widely and correctly regarded as rooted in anti-Semitism. Exactly. We don't play by
[01:40:29] these rules. We don't assume that an entire population is in support of a country. It's
[01:40:40] just not how that goes. And you're never going to get me to agree with that statement. Okay?
[01:40:49] Anyway, it was Abdul-Assad too. But the other thing that I was going to present,
[01:40:54] Of course with the with the Nick Fuentes comparison is is obviously the the idea the classic
[01:41:04] You know this is this is what it is right every fucking month every goddamn day of the week
[01:41:09] They write this exact same shit. Israel defenders keep writing this exact same article every other week
[01:41:15] Okay, um
[01:41:17] And it goes nowhere, but someone is still invested in turning these out
[01:41:20] We want to kill black people who want civil rights. You're exactly the same and then Nick Fuentes, of course on the on the
[01:41:26] Neo-Nazi platform goes you abuse animals and support terrorism. There's no moral equivalency
[01:41:31] Dude you are a Nazi
[01:41:34] What the fuck are you saying?
[01:41:36] Yeah, of course, there's no moral equivalency between you and I yes, you are the bad guy
[01:41:42] That's my point
[01:41:44] He said you support terrorism by the way guy who's anti-Israel by the way just think about that
[01:41:59] Just think about that
[01:42:02] Okay, guy who seemingly is anti-Israel turning around and being like you support terrorism
[01:42:09] Hmm is this y'all's favorite fucking anti Zionist?
[01:42:14] His like rate his his like ratio compared to yours. I mean it also shows that it's bought it into oblivion the platform is
[01:42:30] Not only is it a fucking neo-nazi shithole, but it also shows that it's a it's it's very clearly
[01:42:37] It's very clearly bought it too
[01:42:44] By the way, you did do your very best, not even to mention Nick by name for years in
[01:42:50] here.
[01:42:51] He called him Booger Eater for like four years in an attempt to stop giving him any attention.
[01:42:55] Yes.
[01:42:56] But that was a very different media environment.
[01:42:58] Okay.
[01:42:59] That was an unbelievably different media environment because back then Nick Fuentes was devoid of
[01:43:05] a platform that is of course until destiny openly offered him a platform, elevated his
[01:43:11] platform and self-admitted, by the way, Destiny used to talk openly about how he gave a lifeline
[01:43:18] to Nick Fuentes, introduced him to all these different podcasters, re, like, reignited his career.
[01:43:27] He did that. And he has openly admitted that. So just remember that shit.
[01:43:37] Trump is speaking right now. Yeah, but who gives a fuck? He's talking about small business summit.
[01:43:41] Like I don't give a shit about Donald Trump talking about the small business summit.
[01:43:47] In any case, there's another one. There's just like an unbelievable amount of op-eds that are
[01:43:52] coming out of Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, all these other fucking newspapers, day in, day
[01:43:58] out, writing extensively about how like Hassan is the biggest danger to American politics. We
[01:44:04] We must put a stop to him.
[01:44:06] We must put an end to him somehow.
[01:44:13] It's just, I think it's, first of all, I take a little bit of pride in that.
[01:44:20] I will admit, okay?
[01:44:22] Can I get a quick shock?
[01:44:24] All Bart, here, there you go.
[01:44:27] I take a little bit of pride in that for two reasons.
[01:44:31] Number one, I take pride in that because clearly these guys think I have a lot more motion
[01:44:40] than I truly do, okay?
[01:44:45] The fact that they think this is like a good use of their time is, I don't think it's
[01:44:53] appropriate with the limited amount of motion that I have.
[01:45:07] The other reason any chance that you have more motion than you think, I don't, I don't,
[01:45:12] I don't have this level of motion. Dude, come on. You're talking about, you're talking about
[01:45:19] like three to four think pieces in numerous publications every single day. You're talking
[01:45:27] about like at minimum four different news hits on Fox News every single day for the
[01:45:33] past two months. Nothing. And I mean nothing in our current media cycle has that level
[01:45:42] of standing power. It's virtually impossible. It is virtually impossible for me to have
[01:45:51] that much motion. No one has that much motion. Presidents maybe have that much motion, okay?
[01:46:00] It is ridiculous, but it's clear that there is a coordinated effort here.
[01:46:07] Yeah, Hasan Piker is far less covered than he should be.
[01:46:18] This website tally's all dedicated to the media since my last visit eight days ago.
[01:46:22] He's been mentioned eight times a day.
[01:46:26] Yeah.
[01:46:28] It's crazy.
[01:46:35] But the other thing that I appreciate about all this is that this is a clear cut indication
[01:46:41] that we're winning.
[01:46:43] What do I mean by this?
[01:46:46] Back in the day, the Israel lobby, one of the more powerful lobbies in this country,
[01:46:53] busy themselves unseating candidates, okay? That's what they would work on.
[01:47:02] They would work to make sure that they had a client administration, Democrat or Republican,
[01:47:07] doesn't matter. Now they're failing to cancel a fucking Twitch streamer, okay? The amount of power
[01:47:16] that they used to have in comparison to how little power they have now is unbelievable.
[01:47:22] It is a testament. It is a testament to the success of the pro-Palestinian movement.
[01:47:30] Think about that. They went from basically using fucking presidents like a flesh puppet
[01:47:38] from Biden, from Trump to Biden to Trump again, to begging the American media to cancel a fucking
[01:47:47] niche-ass Twitch streamer. What a fall from grace. That's it. They're trying to advance bills,
[01:48:06] not to, I don't know, give Israel unlimited funds unconditionally, but to get
[01:48:12] set a bipartisan condemnation bill through Congress to condemn a Twitch streamer.
[01:48:23] You have to understand, you have to understand this is a tremendous, tremendous fall from
[01:48:31] grace.
[01:48:38] The fact that they haven't been able to get you de-platformed is kind of shocking, to be
[01:48:41] honest.
[01:48:42] I mean, it's just, the point is, even if they were to get me de-platformed, right?
[01:48:49] Even if they were to get me de-platformed, what does that solve?
[01:48:52] Nothing.
[01:48:53] That's the point I'm making.
[01:48:55] The point I'm making is, let's say that condemnation bill passes, and then they start pressuring
[01:49:01] Amazon.
[01:49:03] They start pressuring YouTube to demonetize me to like de-platform me, right?
[01:49:08] they try to turn me into fucking Nick Fuentes or whatever. Okay.
[01:49:12] There are others who will take my place, right?
[01:49:16] That's number one. And number two, it doesn't even matter. I'm one person.
[01:49:22] This is large majorities of the public,
[01:49:25] especially under the age of 55 that already have decided it's over for Israel.
[01:49:31] It's done. They will never look at Israel the same ever again. Okay.
[01:49:36] So, even if they were to successfully ensure that I can't have a platform, the damage
[01:49:44] is already done.
[01:49:47] In the minds of the collective conscious in the western world and certainly even in the
[01:49:52] United States of America, Israel is a pariah state.
[01:49:56] For good reason, it should be considered a pariah state.
[01:49:58] It's done untold amounts of violence to a captive civilian population.
[01:50:08] Toothpaste is out of the fucking tube.
[01:50:13] That's it.
[01:50:24] The point I'm trying to make is this.
[01:50:25] You can write as many fucking think pieces as you want to, cats out of the fucking bag,
[01:50:32] the US and Iran trading shirt, toothpaste is out of the tube.
[01:50:38] You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, it's out, it's over, and it's only going to
[01:50:44] get worse.
[01:50:52] That's part of the reason why all of these hit pieces don't even fucking work.
[01:50:56] All these smears don't actually have any salience whatsoever.
[01:51:04] One must ask why the exact same trite denunciation of a psalm is published week after week after
[01:51:08] week.
[01:51:09] Who benefits?
[01:51:10] One must consider who's incentivized to burn oh so many calories, pearl clutching, yet again
[01:51:13] over a millennial shock jock.
[01:51:21] This totally manufactured media narrative, unlike in the past, is also not succeeding
[01:51:27] because most people don't fuck with Israel and most people are aware that every prominent
[01:51:35] critic of Israel gets hit with the anti-Semitism ray.
[01:51:39] They get called an anti-Semite over and over and over again.
[01:51:43] So we're living in very different times than like, you know, even two, three years ago
[01:51:48] where this level of a smear campaign would have absolutely destroyed any chances I ever
[01:51:56] had in continuing a media career. I would have been de-platformed. I would have been probably
[01:52:01] even de-banked at this point. You know what I mean? They would have been like, yeah, you
[01:52:04] can't have a bank account in America. It's over for you.
[01:52:09] to this degree having this many articles written would have been over.
[01:52:39] What worked for Corbyn, okay?
[01:52:45] Like it worked for Jeremy Corbyn
[01:52:47] because it was a very different time.
[01:52:52] It was a very different time.
[01:52:55] And therefore it worked for Jeremy Corbyn,
[01:52:57] constantly smearing him as an anti-Semi over and over again,
[01:53:01] right?
[01:53:04] I think if Jeremy Corbyn was the head
[01:53:05] of the Labor Party right now and saying the things,
[01:53:09] that he got yelled at for saying right now, it wouldn't work.
[01:53:15] It would not work at all.
[01:53:18] Anyway, on that note, uh, the last thing I want to play for you is, is, uh,
[01:53:23] this Abdul take, uh, and then this idiotic response from Jonathan Shate.
[01:53:29] Um, and then we're going to go, we're going to get to, uh, situation monitor.
[01:53:33] If you are more frustrated by the idea that I would campaign with us on
[01:53:36] Then you are frustrated by the idea that we have backstopped a genocide or that we continue to rob people of getting
[01:53:42] Basic health care in their in their country. I think you don't understand morals to me morals are about big things
[01:53:48] People should have health care. We shouldn't kill children
[01:53:50] Those are to me morals and you need to be able to figure out how to do those things in the world
[01:53:57] Sometimes working with people who don't share your morals and like that's what makes politics hard, but it's not complicated, right?
[01:54:02] It's really just it's really not complicated this if you're more frustrated by the idea
[01:54:20] I don't know why you sent me the fucking
[01:54:23] Ass-man tweet
[01:54:25] But yeah me to my wife you're more frustrated by shacking up with a stripper than millions of people lacking health care
[01:54:29] You don't understand morals so Jonathan shade
[01:54:32] Again, very weird, very weird take from Jonathan Taint.
[01:54:44] Your wife would probably be happy to not have your ugly as a rod, just stop frequenting
[01:54:47] shippers while the fucker of Otis was supposed to care about your marriage problems.
[01:54:53] Did Abdul say you don't share his morals?
[01:55:07] The implication there is that people should be way, way more focused on the actual issues
[01:55:14] at hand rather than what a Twitch streamer has said.
[01:55:18] Mark Levin retweeted this about me.
[01:55:20] Man who got Nazi death camp SS brigade, a logo permanently tattooed on his chest has also
[01:55:26] been given credit to another Jew annihilation organization for years per a fellow Hamas
[01:55:29] admirer. When it comes to evidence of extremism, what more do you fucking want?
[01:55:33] Cause on Piker praises main Democrat standing candidate, Grand Platter for supporting Hamas
[01:55:38] tears. He was giving Hamas credit in 2014. What more do you fucking want? Yeah, no motion.
[01:55:42] It doesn't matter.
[01:55:43] Um, yeah, yesterday they were saying I'm pro mills. Okay. I'm pro Janet Mills. What do
[01:55:51] you mean? I don't know this, uh, this grand Plattener guy at all.
[01:55:56] It is pretty crazy that they could just say some of the most unhinged things like I am
[01:56:14] in favor of like Jew Annihilation or whatever.
[01:56:17] You were applying to Ultras for Conducts there.
[01:56:18] I know, but it doesn't matter.
[01:56:19] I will still be
[01:56:36] I will still obviously be writing in Janet Mills, you know,
[01:56:44] as I've already explained to you guys pills mafia to the to the bitter end
[01:56:49] okay pills mafia to the bitter end baby
[01:56:56] both threatening and already fragile ceasefire today the US military says it
[01:57:01] blew up six Iranian small boats in the Strait of Hormuz after Iran launched
[01:57:05] while they blow up six jet skis dude profound military achievement profound
[01:57:10] military accomplishment by the world's most powerful naval force. Okay. Wow. They blew
[01:57:17] up six GoFast boats. It's over. Fox News is going to write another article. Yeah, I don't
[01:57:22] really care.
[01:57:23] Quote multiple cruise missiles, drones and small boats at US Navy ships and commercial
[01:57:27] vessels. The exchange of fire happening just hours after President Trump announced that
[01:57:31] the US will begin helping guide stranded ships out of the strait. Meantime, the UAE is accusing
[01:57:37] Iran of renewed missile and drone attacks, the first since early April, including a drone
[01:57:42] strike on an Emirati oil port, causing a large fire and injuring three people there, according
[01:57:47] to officials.
[01:57:48] Let's go to CNN's Kristen Holmes at the White House right now.
[01:57:51] So Kristen, what is the administration saying as tensions with Iran appear to be escalating?
[01:57:56] It's not just the tensions that are escalating, Boris.
[01:57:59] We're also hearing it in President Trump's rhetoric.
[01:58:01] He just did a brief phone interview with Fox in which he said, essentially, that if the
[01:58:05] Iranians target U.S. ships in the area that they will be, quote, blown off the face of
[01:58:12] the earth.
[01:58:13] Now, during this interview, he also said that the Iranians were more malleable now, that
[01:58:16] they did believe that there could be some kind of negotiation that led to a deal.
[01:58:21] But I've got to tell you, we are in a very different place now than we were at the end
[01:58:25] of last week.
[01:58:26] I was hearing from U.S. officials at the end of last week, senior administration officials
[01:58:30] who were saying that they felt really good about the direction that this was going in.
[01:58:34] Instead, now we're starting to see this really seem to devolve.
[01:58:38] And President Trump posted on social media about what we were seeing in the straits, saying
[01:58:43] Iran has taken some shots at unrelated nations in respect to the ship movement.
[01:58:49] And he also noted it was a South Korean cargo ship.
[01:58:52] Then he essentially says that maybe South Korea should join them on this mission, talking
[01:58:56] about the war in Iran.
[01:58:58] And then he goes on to talk about the fast boats, which we've heard about, and then that
[01:59:03] tomorrow there's going to be another one of these press briefings by the
[01:59:06] secretary of defense Pete Hegseth and the chairman of joint chiefs of staff
[01:59:10] Dan Cain. But where we are right now talking to these officials is it does
[01:59:14] not seem as though they are in a place where they feel that they can get to
[01:59:19] some kind of agreement here, which is very different again than what we
[01:59:23] heard at the end of last week.
[01:59:25] Kristen Holmes, life force of the White House. Thank you so much. Let's turn
[01:59:28] to CNN national security correspondent posture Bertrand. Natasha, what are you
[01:59:32] learning as the U.S. and Iran are trading strikes now.
[01:59:35] Yeah, Boris, our U.S. Central Command Chief Admiral Bradley Cooper, he held a call with
[01:59:40] reporters earlier today and he kind of outlined how the U.S. military is going about trying
[01:59:45] to guide these commercial ships through the Strait of Hormuz, essentially via a huge
[01:59:49] U.S. military presence that involves guided missile destroyers, over 100 land and sea-based
[01:59:54] aircraft.
[01:59:55] I
[01:59:57] Yeah, it's uh
[01:59:59] It's incredible. He didn't even mention the ongoing strikes on the UAE law
[02:00:03] Iran has taken some shots at unrelated nations with respect to the ship movement project freedom
[02:00:08] Including a south korean cargo ship. Perhaps it's time for south korea to come and join the mission
[02:00:13] We've shot down seven small boats or as they like to call them fast boats. It's all they have left
[02:00:19] Other than the south korean ship there has been at this moment. No damage going through the strait
[02:00:24] Secretary of War Pete Hagseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Cain will have a news conference tomorrow morning
[02:00:31] Thank you for your attention to this matter President Donald J. Trump
[02:00:35] St. Com's commander wants to keep it a secret whether he knows if Iran has hit his own ships
[02:00:39] Yeah commander Admiral Brad Cooper Bradley Cooper says more commercial ships are on route to travel
[02:00:46] Across the Strait after two US flags successfully traveled out of the Strait when I asked how many ships had been hit by Iran
[02:00:52] he declined to give a number. Don't tell the enemy you know what they've been able to achieve.
[02:00:59] Seems great. Seems like seems like a very uh seems seems like a resounding success chat.
[02:01:12] Seems like a lot of victories are taking place. Sources tell me the idea of Dubai is stable please
[02:01:18] God.
[02:01:22] Cent com chief Admiral Brad Cooper says UAE has exceptional capabilities in his well
[02:01:26] positioned to defend itself. UAE has been a great teammate to the US. Iran's military
[02:01:30] capabilities dramatically degraded, but that doesn't mean it's all gone.
[02:01:39] We need air support. You can do it.
[02:01:44] Oh my God. Trump is putler. Trump literally is putler. So this, this image for those of
[02:01:52] you who don't know, if you're not like super autistic and tapped into, you know, the situation
[02:01:59] monitoring for many, many years now, this image is, is, is from Syria specifically. Okay.
[02:02:08] It's a, and not just Ukraine, but also from the, the Syrian conflict as well. It's a Putin
[02:02:13] monkey meme, okay? It's whenever Vladimir Putin, whenever Vladimir Putin does something
[02:02:20] unbelievably stupid, where he just like, you know, writes off his allies or, you know,
[02:02:26] something of the, something of that sort, or just does something inexplicable, okay?
[02:02:31] They'll put this, they'll put this meme up of, of, of Vladimir Putin as playing chess
[02:02:38] a monkey, okay? Now, they're using it for Donald Trump, because this is something not
[02:02:46] dissimilar to what Vladimir Putin would have done in Syria, right? The Bashar al-Assad
[02:02:52] government being like, we need help right now. And then Putler says, you can do it. Here's
[02:02:59] some emotional support for you. He need banana, yeah, that kind of thing.
[02:03:03] And now, given the Russification that has taken place in the American Central Command,
[02:03:11] they're now saying, Trump is also behaving in a way not dissimilar to Adolf Putler.
[02:03:17] Yeah, this is the initial meme, yeah.
[02:03:23] Playing Russia and having lots of units in aircraft ready near Georgia for the 2008 war,
[02:03:27] I actually forgot about them after beating Chesh Nia.
[02:03:40] Yeah, Monkey Putin is like a classic meme.
[02:03:48] It's even funny because Putin is allies
[02:03:49] with the new Syrian government.
[02:03:50] That is the most expected outcome of all time.
[02:03:55] It kind of goes, it harkens back to that joke. Okay? The whole joke is that, yes,
[02:04:02] Putler has no friends whatsoever, only immediate goals. He doesn't give a shit.
[02:04:11] That's why I always laugh whenever people are like,
[02:04:14] Vladimir Putin is engaging in an anti-imperialist war against the western forces. It's like,
[02:04:20] Like, that's not true.
[02:04:24] It's never been, you know, never really been true.
[02:04:31] Lindsey Graham says Trump needs to help champion ally UAE.
[02:04:37] Anyway.
[02:04:39] Okay, um, Borzo, uh, Dada, Dada guy, he says, uh, the UAE, the fact that, or Sultan Al-Ali,
[02:05:00] the fact that the Arab League is silent while the RGC targets the UAE and threat and shipping
[02:05:04] is unacceptable.
[02:05:05] Why haven't we heard clear condemnations on these attacks?
[02:05:08] The pattern is obvious and the ambition to expand influence across the Gulf is no secret.
[02:05:12] Silence at this point isn't neutrality, it's complicity.
[02:05:15] Hmm.
[02:05:16] I wonder why the GCC is not saying a goddamn thing about the UAE being pummeled again.
[02:05:21] Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the United Arab Emirates has literally
[02:05:25] decided to become, you know, Muslim Israel.
[02:05:29] They left the GCC and on top of that, they said, yeah, we're backing America and Israel
[02:05:36] all the way.
[02:05:38] UAE allowed itself to be turned into an Israeli base at a time when not just the Arab world,
[02:05:41] but much of the entire planet has turned against Israel's genocide or rogue state.
[02:05:45] Now, the UAE advocates are, now UAE advocates are frustrated that no one is coming to its
[02:05:51] defense.
[02:05:52] Of course, no one's coming to his defense.
[02:05:53] It's really funny that America is not even coming to the UAE's defense, by the way.
[02:05:59] What happens is Trump announces plan to move ships out of the Hormuz, says Sina Tusi, senior
[02:06:03] fellow at CI policy.
[02:06:05] UAE appears central to it, and indeed to continue to see plans to restart the war Iran has responded with reported attacks on UAE and expanded its control zone over all UAE ports Tehran isn't letting up or not is sorry the UAE didn't leave the GCC the UAE left OPEC.
[02:06:21] I apologize, which is the center of power for the GCC.
[02:06:32] The cartel that is OPEC, OPEC Plus,
[02:06:36] is the only reason why the GCC has fucking power.
[02:06:40] True to Parcy analysis on drop site. All right, we'll look at, we'll look at front of the show,
[02:06:55] true to Parcy's take on this. But just in President Trump said Washington will launch a
[02:07:02] maritime effort. Oh, this was last night. President Trump said Washington will launch a
[02:07:06] a maritime effort starting Monday morning, which is already started, okay? To escort foreign vessels
[02:07:12] out of the Shredda Hormuz, citing requests from countries where ships stranded amid regional
[02:07:16] tensions. Trump described the plan, project freedom as a humanitarian mission, and said
[02:07:21] any interference from Iran will be met forcefully. He also said, I'm fully aware that my representatives
[02:07:26] are having very positive discussions with the country of Iran, and that these discussions
[02:07:29] could lead somewhere very positive for all. Iran had also released some demands that are
[02:07:39] basically the same as the previous demands, but parsing it up in a short-term and long-term
[02:07:46] negotiations process. They did that yesterday.
[02:07:52] But what's funny about all of this is that all the oil futures pumping from operation freedom
[02:07:58] has already been wiped out by the missile and drone attacks on the UAE law.
[02:08:10] Yeah.
[02:08:14] The interesting predicament here is that it seems as though
[02:08:19] So it seems as though the Trump administration is going to continue conducting military operations
[02:08:35] rather than engaging Iran diplomatically.
[02:08:38] So Moneymola Station is still taking place.
[02:08:43] And of course, this kind of, according to Trita's analysis at the very least, this kind
[02:08:48] actually uh leans into uh iran's goals right if iran's goals were to restart the war if iran
[02:08:56] believes that it can hold out and and continue punishing the global energy markets continue
[02:09:01] punishing america this way uh militarily then you know as i said it was either going to be israel
[02:09:08] or America that restarts the military campaign. And here we are. America is going back up
[02:09:24] the escalation ladder instead of de-escalating. All right, so let's get back to it here.
[02:09:36] manned platforms for things like reaper drones and fifteen thousand service
[02:09:39] members who are now state there to respond to central
[02:09:43] the if or on it does attack uh... any of the ships trying to pass through the
[02:09:46] straight and that is exactly
[02:09:48] what happened this morning according to admiral cooper the iranians begin
[02:09:52] launching drones uh... cruise missiles and small boats at some of the ships
[02:09:57] including at u s navy ships and the u s military then responded by blowing up
[02:10:03] about six of these small Iranian boats using Apache and Seahawk helicopters.
[02:10:09] Now it's important to note here that Admiral Cooper did not say whether or not this means
[02:10:13] that the ceasefire is over, given that the Iranians and the Americans are now trading
[02:10:18] shop essentially in that strait, he would only say that the U.S. is going to continue
[02:10:22] to act defensively to try to protect these ships as well as of course its own assets.
[02:10:27] And one other thing is that he really emphasized that there are no escorts going on right now
[02:10:32] of these commercial vessels in this area by the u.s. military
[02:10:36] instead they say that this kind of overarching defensive package that they
[02:10:41] have built up in that area
[02:10:43] is creating deterrence
[02:10:45] now the ronians they might have a different uh... perception of that
[02:10:48] because of course they continue
[02:10:50] uh... to try to take shots at the ships in the waterway
[02:10:53] but the u.s. military saying look it's better for us to have this big overall
[02:10:57] uh... your audio has issues a key sparking notes cnn vods cnn vods have
[02:11:02] notoriously had that one like weird crunch that
[02:11:05] happens all the time we don't know why
[02:11:09] but
[02:11:10] presence here rather than escort each ship one by one through the straight
[02:11:13] which could actually leave them more vulnerable in the end Boris
[02:11:16] the conflict over spilling from the tensions in the straight of Hamas back
[02:11:20] onto land back to where it was before the ceasefire went into place almost a
[02:11:24] month ago uh... as well as those uh... missiles from iran
[02:11:29] hitting the UAE, or three intercepted, as you say,
[02:11:31] one hitting that port of Fujairah.
[02:11:33] Also in Oman, a tiny seaside hamlet
[02:11:37] in the peninsula that sticks up into the Strait of Omoz,
[02:11:41] that was hit.
[02:11:42] Two people injured in a civilian residence there as well.
[02:11:46] So not just limited to the UAE, but Oman as well,
[02:11:50] getting dragged back into this.
[02:11:52] As Sencom has been saying, they've
[02:11:54] been able to support what President Trump is calling
[02:11:58] project freedom. And that is an effort for humanitarian reasons to guide commercial vessels
[02:12:04] that have been stuck now for two months inside the Gulf, out through the Strait of Hormuz,
[02:12:10] out to deliver their goods to the rest of the world. That has involved at least one
[02:12:17] guided missile destroyer, according to SENTCOM, passing through the Strait of Hormuz today
[02:12:23] day and getting into the Gulf to US-like commercial vessels making it out, but then a confrontation
[02:12:31] according to the Iranian media IRGC saying that they confronted with rapid and quick
[02:12:42] actions preventing a US naval vessel getting into the Strait of Hormuz, at least one Iranian
[02:12:48] media saying that there were shots fired at the US vessels.
[02:12:52] Now, St. Com has denied that.
[02:12:54] Now, what does that very complicated and rapidly
[02:12:58] developing picture look like?
[02:13:00] It looks like what was conversations
[02:13:02] about a talks process has turned into significant kinetic
[02:13:07] activity.
[02:13:09] The Iranians, though, the ball is in their court
[02:13:12] to respond to the proposal put to them
[02:13:15] by the White House over the weekend.
[02:13:18] Nega is it fair to say that this is still technically a ceasefire if you're seeing
[02:13:24] That kind of attack against Gulf allies and the US respond. What's his name?
[02:13:32] What did he say
[02:13:41] I don't
[02:13:43] That was weird. That was a
[02:13:47] moment. That's a weird moment. Okay, let's just, let's just keep going. Let's just keep going. He just,
[02:13:55] he, he, he didn't mean it.
[02:14:01] I, I wasn't alone, it seems, in hearing the, the words they came out of his mouth, but,
[02:14:09] in hearing the the words they came out of his mouth but let's just keep going.
[02:14:15] These boats in the straight?
[02:14:20] I think it's really in question. I spoke with Iranian officials on on Friday here and they
[02:14:25] said they were very concerned that any sort of easing of blockades around the street if
[02:14:31] they were very concerned that the United States would move in with the navy to try to take control
[02:14:36] there. So what appears to be happening by projecting the effort to guide these commercial
[02:14:43] vessels out of the Strait of Hormuz, it has sort of upped, if you will, that tension,
[02:14:49] that suspicion on Iran's part that plays into their lack of trust about what the United
[02:14:54] States' real intentions here are. I have to say, despite that, we've seen these spikes
[02:15:00] intentions before and after a few days, things can potentially calm down. But Iran again
[02:15:08] has escalated beyond the tensions with the U.S.
[02:15:11] What are you? Is there a world where we actually look at this stuff? Sincerely? Iran has escalated
[02:15:25] intentions. Buddy, buddy, there is currently a tolling process on the straight of hormones
[02:15:35] and a negotiations process. None of this would have happened if America didn't decide to
[02:15:42] bomb Iran alongside Israel in an act of poverty during a previous negotiations process.
[02:15:55] This is ridiculous. Iran has escalated. What do you mean?
[02:16:00] They brought Iran to the negotiations table and then said fuck off.
[02:16:06] What is supposed to happen here? What are they supposed to do?
[02:16:09] Just not maintain their leverage? Of course they're going to maintain their leverage.
[02:16:15] This doesn't make any sense. But he's talking about today's escalation.
[02:16:18] No, am I missing something? Yes. The reason why Iran is doing that, when
[02:16:23] it wasn't doing it yesterday is because America has decided to force their assets through
[02:16:30] the Strait of Hormuz.
[02:16:44] That's the reason.
[02:16:47] Instead of negotiating with Iran, America has chosen military escalation once again.
[02:16:54] So obviously, Iran is going to retaliate.
[02:16:59] I don't know why we behave as though our enemies, like our foreign adversaries, are incapable
[02:17:07] of making rational decisions or incapable of advancing their own interests.
[02:17:14] Or if they do advance their own interest, we treat it as though it's like totally ridiculous.
[02:17:20] We make it seem as though there's not two parties.
[02:17:25] We make it seem as though there's not two parties to this negotiations process that
[02:17:29] they're like, that they're just doing this for no reason out of nowhere.
[02:17:35] And has now targeted the UAE and Oman, and this really could lead to a potential escalation,
[02:17:47] a kinetic escalation.
[02:17:49] If it does, and that continues for the next couple of days, then I think talks will really
[02:17:54] get sidelined, and it would be hard to restart them in a meaningful way.
[02:17:59] Even that's really in question, just because this has played into Iran's fears.
[02:18:03] They would now say, why would we get around the table again if this is what the United
[02:18:07] States is going to do?
[02:18:09] The Nick Robertson line for us in Pakistan.
[02:18:11] Thank you so much.
[02:18:12] Erika?
[02:18:13] So let's take you now to the White House and it's Kevin Liptak.
[02:18:16] So yesterday, Kevin, we had President Trump saying the U.S. was having very positive discussions
[02:18:21] with Iran.
[02:18:22] Now, on the heels of what we've just heard, of course, from Nick, what changed?
[02:18:26] Well, I have to say, we've been getting some mixed signals about exactly what the status
[02:18:31] of these talks are.
[02:18:32] two days before the president said that they were productive he said that the
[02:18:35] latest Iranian proposal was not accepted
[02:18:38] yes he wasn't saying the n-word chat he was saying his name and then going uh...
[02:18:43] after okay
[02:18:44] the ball and so it's not for a second come on come on come on lock in lock in
[02:18:48] we got it okay now it's being a little childish okay
[02:18:52] it's uh... we're being we're behaving like little babies okay all
[02:18:57] it come on
[02:18:59] basically clear where exactly those talks stand and certainly it's unclear
[02:19:02] now that we have seen this exchange of fire between of the u.s. and iran
[02:19:09] far as a military informed source the fire in the u a was the result of the
[02:19:12] u.s. army's adventurism
[02:19:15] from the explosion of widespread fire at the oil facilities of the fujara
[02:19:18] port and the attribution of it
[02:19:20] to the armed forces the slum a group of iran a military informed official said
[02:19:23] the slum a group of the cat no pre-planned program to attack the
[02:19:25] mentioned oil facilities, and what happened was a result of US Army's
[02:19:29] adventurism to create a passage for the illegal transitive ships through the
[02:19:32] forbidden routes of the Shredder Hormuz, and the US Army must be held
[02:19:35] accountable for it. US statesmen must end the ugly behavior of using force and
[02:19:40] diplomacy and cease military adventurism in this sensitive oil region that
[02:19:44] affects the economy of all countries worldwide. Okay, but have you thought
[02:19:50] about, I live in Fugera, should I move? That's crazy. You made us do it. I mean, yeah, that
[02:20:03] is what they're saying, because it's true. If you have, if there was a tit for tat, if
[02:20:10] there was a tit for tat war going on, and then they set up a ceasefire, okay, and then
[02:20:17] America violated the principles of the ceasefire, then yeah, of course they're gonna fucking
[02:20:21] retaliate.
[02:20:22] What are we talking about?
[02:20:24] Because if they don't retaliate, then they have nothing.
[02:20:27] If they don't retaliate, they have no leverage.
[02:20:29] Why would they not maintain their leverage?
[02:20:33] I think we have to remember, Iran was attacked first, okay?
[02:20:40] We gotta go back to like 60 plus days ago, when Iran was at the negotiations table saying,
[02:20:46] We will lean into your maximalist demands. We will cave to your demands. We will concede
[02:20:50] to them as long as you give us sanctions relief. Of course, they have to reestablish that deterrence.
[02:20:57] There is no ceasefire process. Yeah, Ross Douth is going to think these boys are going
[02:21:03] on an epic adventure. This is classic. Yeah, adventurism in this circumstance means like
[02:21:08] erratic and decentralized modes of violence. Like it's just irrational, erratic violence,
[02:21:16] Okay, that's what adventurism is. It doesn't mean it's a, it's not a positive thing. It's a negative
[02:21:20] thing. Okay. The reason why I'm explaining it one more time is because a lot of people don't know,
[02:21:29] and I use the term, I use the term adventurism as a, with a negative association to it. And yet,
[02:21:38] that people often think that that means going on an adventure.
[02:21:49] It's not a positive thing, okay?
[02:21:59] Yeah, W-Adventures, okay.
[02:22:02] Iranian officials have been abnormally quiet despite over three hours of strikes being reported
[02:22:05] in the UAE.
[02:22:06] Well, they released the statement already.
[02:22:07] in the Strait of Formos.
[02:22:09] You know, I think it was clear leading up
[02:22:10] to the president's decision to put this new initiative
[02:22:13] into place that he had been growing,
[02:22:16] relatively frustrated with the stasis that had occurred.
[02:22:19] You know, the war was not happening
[02:22:21] because the ceasefire was in place,
[02:22:22] but the Strait was also not reopened
[02:22:25] and the talks seemed as if they were deadlocked.
[02:22:27] And this seems to have been his attempt to try
[02:22:30] and break some of that stalemate
[02:22:32] to get the ships flowing through this very critical waterway.
[02:22:36] But of course the risk there is that the Iranians
[02:22:39] Why is Iran attacking the UAE and not Israel?
[02:22:41] I don't know, maybe because currently as it stands,
[02:22:44] the United Arab Emirates,
[02:22:46] which can be seen as an extension of America and Israel,
[02:22:50] is participating in breaking through the blockade
[02:22:55] alongside the United States of America.
[02:22:57] Perhaps that's the reason why the UAE is being attacked.
[02:23:03] Spire and some of these ships,
[02:23:04] The ceasefire is off and all of a sudden the U.S. is back at war with Iran.
[02:23:10] It had been, I think, unclear this morning what exactly project freedom would entail.
[02:23:16] American officials were quick to point out that this was not an escort mission.
[02:23:20] The word the President used was guide these ships through the Strait of Hormuz.
[02:23:24] Just in the last hour we have heard from the head of Central Command, Brad Cooper, describing
[02:23:29] this as a quote a multiple layer effort using aircraft using ships to sort of create a coordination
[02:23:36] cell that would allow these ships.
[02:23:39] Also Israel did send iron dome batteries apparently in Israeli air defense system deployed to the
[02:23:44] UAE was used to intercept an Iranian missile today CNN reports it was recently reported
[02:23:48] that Israel deployed at least one iron dome battery.
[02:23:50] Bro if I'm Ukraine I'm pissed.
[02:23:52] By the way.
[02:23:53] Dude.
[02:23:54] Dude.
[02:23:55] Famously, if you recall, in the early days of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Zelensky
[02:24:04] came out and was like, Mr. President, we would like to get the iron dome, okay?
[02:24:10] And Israel, because of its, you know, neutral allegiance to Russia, said, fuck off.
[02:24:21] They literally refused to give Ukraine an Iron Dome, or any Iron Dome batteries whatsoever.
[02:24:28] They said, oh, we can't let them fall in the hands of our enemies, Russia.
[02:24:34] So in the eyes of Israel now, the United Arab Emirates is worthy of an Iron Dome defense
[02:24:44] system as opposed to Ukraine.
[02:24:48] I am, if I am Ukrainian, if I am Zelensky, I look at this and I go, what the fuck are
[02:24:56] you guys doing?
[02:24:58] Well, Ukraine kind of well without though, that is crazy.
[02:25:03] You think it would not have been good to rush ship a bunch of Iron Dome batteries in especially
[02:25:12] the beginning?
[02:25:13] Fucking crazy to like pop why like to population centers, especially
[02:25:19] You would have avoided civilian casualties
[02:25:22] It's crazy that Israel was like now Ukraine fuck you
[02:25:42] UAE sure you can have some iron dome defense batteries you know you can have some
[02:25:48] out fuck you just hit my foot just saying look at the fucking priorities here if I'm
[02:26:00] If I'm Ukraine, I'm pissed
[02:26:12] They are spending my measles
[02:26:19] It's not ours to give its Israel's first of all it absolutely is ours. What are you talking about? It's a collaborative project
[02:26:28] the idea
[02:26:29] The idea that like Israel gets to make these decisions on their own is so funny
[02:26:35] Okay, dude
[02:26:37] Sure
[02:26:40] Sure
[02:26:42] It's not the case at all to go through the safest channel in the straight-o form moves and just by their presence
[02:26:49] Try and provide some reassurance to these shipping companies and to the pilots of these vessels that it was in fake in fact safe to transit now
[02:26:57] Now, what we've seen this morning is yes, central commences that some vessels have gone
[02:27:01] through, but overall, traffic is still down, so remains to be seen just how effective this
[02:27:06] approach will be.
[02:27:07] For the last three weeks, the US Navy has been blockading ships from leaving or reaching
[02:27:13] Iranian ports.
[02:27:15] But now the mission is expanding, with what President Trump calls project freedom.
[02:27:20] No naval escorts as such, but an attempt to guide neutral shipping strays.
[02:27:25] Yeah, this was also funny too. The Volodymyr Zelensky, in any normal country, purchasing
[02:27:30] stolen goods is enacted and tails legal liability. This applies in particularly the grain stolen
[02:27:34] by Russia. Another vessel carrying such grain has arrived at a port in Israel and is preparing
[02:27:39] to unload. This is not and cannot be legitimate.
[02:27:44] Joel Petlin goes, question for Grock, how many other countries in the world are getting
[02:27:48] shipments of stolen Ukrainian grain and how many of them has Zelensky called out for it?
[02:27:52] implying that the Jewish president of Ukraine is somehow anti-Semitic for singling out Israel,
[02:28:01] taking advantage of stolen, like, Russian theft of Ukrainian grain.
[02:28:09] What a fucking unbelievable situation.
[02:28:14] Zaleski is Jewish, by the way.
[02:28:18] Yeah, 800 Patriot missiles were used for air defense in just three days in the Middle
[02:28:23] East.
[02:28:24] Ukraine received 604 years of full-scale war.
[02:28:27] Russia, Iran, and North Korea formed a new Axis of Evil.
[02:28:30] Ukraine was the first to confront those axes.
[02:28:32] We continue to fight, but we need support.
[02:28:34] The free world must stop managing this threat and start defeating it.
[02:28:47] Like there's one country that is more worthy of these defenses, I would say it's Ukraine.
[02:28:55] Like Ukraine was illegally invaded by Russia, okay, illegally invaded and occupied by Russia.
[02:29:02] Under the standards of international law, not that it fucking matters, obviously, we
[02:29:06] all know that it's not worth anything.
[02:29:09] Like there is a legitimate reason to aid in the defense of Ukraine.
[02:29:16] We bombed Iran.
[02:29:19] There was no reason for us to bomb Iran at all, okay?
[02:29:24] So what doesn't make any sense is for Ukraine to, on the one hand, get mad about how many
[02:29:30] Patriot missiles were used to defend the Gulf nations after we decided to bomb Iran while
[02:29:39] Simultaneous to be like, no, but we got to keep up the fight.
[02:29:46] It doesn't make any sense.
[02:30:09] Israelis in general care way less about Ukraine in either direction than pro-Israel anglophones.
[02:30:13] What you're seeing is a crazy, jilted, lovers reaction from people with Ukrainian flag,
[02:30:17] American flag, and Israeli flag in the bio.
[02:30:23] But what makes this whole episode particularly deranged is that Ukraine is not even attacking
[02:30:26] Israeli state policy. They're asking to stop a private business from a corrupt transaction
[02:30:31] that has nothing to do with Israel's national interest.
[02:30:33] The disconnect I'm seeing between Hebrew language and English language is real Twitter is utterly
[02:30:39] fascinating. I'm actually pretty optimistic that the black market grain issue will be resolved,
[02:30:43] but someone should probably look into this as well. In Hebrew, we should probably stop this
[02:30:47] maybe boycott whatever company is doing it. In English, those ungrateful Ukrainian swine must
[02:30:51] learn their place. Why is North Korea catching Tracer? Did they do something that I somehow
[02:31:01] completely missed? No, no. The DPRK, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, has been aiding and
[02:31:06] abetting the Russian invasion, both with artillery, with their artillery production,
[02:31:13] because they have a lot more munitions. And now, with, you know, with ascending of,
[02:31:21] like, they've sent troops, a fuck ton of troops, as a matter of fact.
[02:31:26] And initially, the DPRK troops that they sent were simply used within Russian borders,
[02:31:36] but I'm pretty sure they have been also actively invading Ukrainian territory as well.
[02:31:42] It was initially, it was initially sent to defend Kursk, but since then, I don't know if they're,
[02:31:57] since then, I feel like they've been on the front lines as well. They've been captured inside of
[02:32:02] Ukraine. So they signed a mutual defense pact with Russia when Ukraine invaded
[02:32:12] Kursk. They activated the treaty and asked for Korea's help.
[02:32:17] Yeah, and I think the North Korean state has, the North Korean state has said that 1,400
[02:32:32] troops have died in the process as well, right?
[02:32:36] Isn't it?
[02:32:37] I think it's 1,400 troops, if I'm not mistaken.
[02:32:41] Do a lot of them defect? No. What? No. Dude, that is no, of course. No, they do not defect
[02:32:55] at all. What do you mean? Do Ukrainians used to initially make jokes about the DPRK soldiers?
[02:33:05] Um, but no, they've, their, their attitude has shifted, uh, as well about the DPRK soldiers in general that they say that they're like pretty fucking, uh, pretty tough overall.
[02:33:21] What? I genuinely don't understand what you're saying. Can you please repeat what repeat? What?
[02:33:26] What? What are you? Oh my God, Hussamene Beauty is a classic. Can you please look at my previous
[02:33:34] statement, chatter? I have literally banned you in the past. I have literally banned you in the
[02:33:44] past for this. I've suspended you in the past because you always do this. No, no, please. Also,
[02:33:50] there are hella Ukrainian FPV drones hitting down DPRK soldiers. What? What?
[02:33:56] I read it. What? Okay. Do you feel like this was...
[02:34:06] That's it? That's what you wanted me to read?
[02:34:11] Take a second off.
[02:34:18] I hate when people say, I hate when people say check logs, check logs, check logs.
[02:34:22] Haas Amenabudy is one of the routine abusers of check logs. Check previous. Please don't want to spam.
[02:34:30] Read last message. Read last message. No.
[02:34:35] No, I will not be checking logs. I will not be reading last message.
[02:34:45] message. Anyway, where were we? Yeah, Lindsey Graham is demanding aid for the United Arab Emirates
[02:34:59] here. The combination of Iran's Iran's attack against UAE's vital infrastructure and continued
[02:35:04] attacks on international shipping, including a South Korean Corgo ship, more than justifies a big,
[02:35:11] strong, sexy, mainly hard-dicked response to inflict further damage on Iran's war machine.
[02:35:21] The UAE has been a champion ally in this fight, doing everything that's been asked of them
[02:35:26] and beyond. Iran's recent brazen attack against the UAE tells me a lot about who's in charge
[02:35:33] in Iran and the chance of a diplomatic solution anytime soon. A forceful response with our
[02:35:39] hard-dicked Marines with the hardest of penises on behalf of our ally, United Arab Emirates,
[02:35:48] will reinforce that America is back as a reliable ally, helping to further wash away the damage
[02:35:53] caused by the Biden administration on the front.
[02:35:56] First of all, the Biden administration, okay, from his estimates did not do this much damage
[02:36:03] to American force projection capabilities, did not do this much damage to longstanding
[02:36:09] security arrangements. There is no comparison. I hate Biden for what he did in Gaza. He is
[02:36:15] a genocide there and he will always be remembered as a genocide there. Okay. Having said that,
[02:36:23] the idea that between Biden and Trump, who has actually destroyed the confidence that
[02:36:29] the rest of the world had in the American military is not even a fucking question.
[02:36:34] Okay? It's not even a question. Donald Trump is the great nation builder for China. Donald
[02:36:41] Trump is unbelievably JD Pon style. He is doing permanent first world genocide by way
[02:36:47] of the gas prices. He's doing an incredible job of showing the rest of the world that
[02:36:54] America's military capabilities are actually not all that great. It's not even a fucking
[02:37:00] question. There's not even a question at all. Emoji reactions on Israeli platforms to Trump.
[02:37:10] Senior Iranian military official at this time, we are proving to everyone who is telling the
[02:37:14] truth, who's telling stories, who talks and who acts, sorry. But honestly, they're right.
[02:37:18] They pretty much control the situation. We're punching bags right now. I say this with great
[02:37:22] sadness. Israel news from the field uncensored on Telegram.
[02:37:29] One person was shot by security forces weak Trump. Trump in his speech, the war will end
[02:37:32] very quickly and oil prices will drop like you've never seen. Throw up emoji. Trump
[02:37:39] avoided saying that the ceasefire was violated. It was not heavy fire. Most were shot down.
[02:37:43] Clown emoji. Israeli Telegram channels do not fuck with Donald Trump's statements on
[02:37:48] this. They were already very upset. They were already very mad, according to plenty of reporting
[02:37:55] at this point that Donald Trump was even remotely invested in doing a ceasefire with Iran without
[02:38:04] completely destroying the Iranian state. Okay, Trump did not say that Iran did not violate
[02:38:11] he's far he simply did not address the question is really news of the censorship
[02:38:27] huh what is this the mom on freaks and geeks is a top 10 mom actor and so
[02:38:35] underrated. Eight-year-old takes still as relevant as ever. Thank you for speaking the truth.
[02:38:42] Why did I fucking click on this dumb shit, dude? We're monitoring the situation chatters. For many,
[02:38:49] many days, I have not been able to monitor the goddamn situation. And the first time I start
[02:38:54] monitoring the situation, you want me to look at some other dumb shit. Okay, what are we doing here?
[02:39:02] What the fuck are we doing here? Lock in its situation monitor time
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[02:39:29] All right
[02:39:32] Let's look at the shaky ceasefire at risk, which Donald Trump doesn't say Iran violated
[02:39:38] for some reason.
[02:39:40] Okay, Jonathan Carl, in a conversation with Jonathan Carl, ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent,
[02:39:47] he said, President Trump said, or President Trump stopped short of saying Iran is violated.
[02:39:55] The ceasefire, regarding the Iranian drone and missile attacks on UAE today, they were
[02:39:58] shot down for the most part, Trump told me, one got through not huge damage.
[02:40:02] Regarding the Iranian attack on a South Korean ship, we're going to look into it. Shots were
[02:40:06] fired at the South Korean ship, and I think South Korea should take some action.
[02:40:09] This was a South Korean ship, riding by itself. It was not an escorted ship.
[02:40:14] Anded by the conflict to safety. We will use the best efforts to get ships and crews safely
[02:40:21] out of the strait. Mr. Trump said on social media last night, they are victims of circumstance.
[02:40:27] This is a humanitarian gesture. The US, we are just firing it fired upon. We are not the provocateurs
[02:40:34] here, but if the Iranians want to escalate here, we are willing to escalate. The Americans say
[02:40:40] two ships successfully crossed the strait today, helped by US Navy destroyers. But in a return to
[02:40:47] open... Bro, asking one of our vassals to do their own defense is so funny. I'm serious. It's
[02:40:57] It's unbelievably weak.
[02:40:59] For America to be like, yeah, I know we fucked everything up for you guys, but like you should
[02:41:03] probably send whatever like naval asses you have is so funny.
[02:41:11] What are we doing, man?
[02:41:13] What the fuck are we doing?
[02:41:15] It is so bitch made.
[02:41:17] This goes back to what I was saying about Donald Trump being a great nation builder
[02:41:21] for China.
[02:41:22] It goes back to what I was saying about Donald Trump doing unbelievable damage to the confidence
[02:41:28] that people had in American security.
[02:41:30] Morteza Hussein from Dropsite says, South Korea should take some action.
[02:41:34] South Korea was not consulted about the war or involved in it, nor does it have the expeditionary
[02:41:38] capabilities or network of military base in the Persian Gulf necessary to secure shipping
[02:41:42] there.
[02:41:43] What are they supposed to do?
[02:41:46] What are they supposed to do?
[02:41:48] The only thing South Korea could do is sever ties with the United States of America and
[02:41:53] commit to a bilateral relationship with Iran in order for them to be able to transit their
[02:41:58] fucking ships successfully through the Strait of Hormuz, which ironically enough would frustrate
[02:42:04] the United States of America, which currently has a secondary, uh, has a secondary blockade
[02:42:10] rendering any sort of bilateral commitment, uh, impossible.
[02:42:15] So America's secondary blockade is effectively stopping all of these other countries from
[02:42:21] actually transiting through the Shredda Hormuz by going into an Iranian port, because the
[02:42:26] American secondary blockade dictates that any ship that touches the Iranian ports, which
[02:42:32] is necessary, cannot cross through the Shredda Hormuz.
[02:42:38] That's what the secondary blockade is there to do.
[02:42:41] So South Korea can't even do any sort of bilateral commitment with Iran and go to Iran directly
[02:42:47] and be like, hey, you know, we'll purchase your oil or whatever.
[02:42:50] No harm, no foul.
[02:42:54] You think they're going to do 9, 11, 2.0, the manufacturer can set up for this bullshit?
[02:42:58] I'd look the only, what have I always said since day one?
[02:43:04] America's, the only thing standing in the way of America is not like, you know, any
[02:43:10] sort of like regional superpower, any sort of great power, any sort of international
[02:43:14] power like China. The only thing standing in the way of the United States of America
[02:43:19] is its own incompetence. I don't even know if they're capable of pulling off a sophisticated
[02:43:24] like 9-11 style, a false flag attack. Okay. So, I mean, you're asking me if it's, if it's
[02:43:36] uh...
[02:43:37] uh... in you know if that's a possibility but uh... i i don't know i i just
[02:43:41] don't think
[02:43:43] i don't think that america has
[02:43:46] uh... d d
[02:43:48] the capabilities of pulling off of uh... and in
[02:43:52] uh... a world changing false flag attack of that magnitude
[02:43:56] conflict
[02:43:57] they also said they had to shoot down iranian missiles and drones and destroy
[02:44:02] several small boats
[02:44:04] Iran is also accused of firing towards a South Korean cargo ship, but Iranian state television
[02:44:11] claims the Americans are lying.
[02:44:13] The other thing, by the way, is whether or not this would even be believable.
[02:44:19] I think in this current media environment, if there was a 9-11, most people would be
[02:44:23] like, oh, America did it to itself.
[02:44:25] Like, if there was a 9-11 style like domestic terror incident, if they tried to pin on Iran,
[02:44:31] Americans would probably look at that and go, what the fuck did you just do to us?
[02:44:36] Not Iran.
[02:44:37] They would just wouldn't believe that Iran did it.
[02:44:41] A lot of people would immediately blame Israel.
[02:44:44] A lot of people would immediately blame Israel, and many would also probably blame the current
[02:44:49] FBI and the current State Department.
[02:44:53] Sure, the Trump supporters would believe whatever the fuck Trump says, but look at what happened
[02:45:00] after another assassination attempt. Guy comes out, tries to assassinate the president, immediately
[02:45:12] in unison, the Republican media goes, oh, this is why we need to build a ballroom.
[02:45:17] And everyone looks at the situation and goes, yeah, sure, bud, you tried to do this to yourself
[02:45:25] seek to build a fucking ballroom.
[02:45:35] That no ships have crossed the strait and that any foreign forces will be attacked.
[02:45:42] Ships their owners and shipping companies know well that to ensure their security and
[02:45:46] safety they need to coordinate with relevant bodies in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
[02:45:54] Tonight Iran seems to have gone further.
[02:45:57] This footage from opposition media reportedly showing a fire at an oil facility in the United
[02:46:03] Arab Emirates after a drone attack.
[02:46:05] The Emiratis say three Indian workers were taken to hospital.
[02:46:10] The International Maritime Organization says around 800 tankers and container ships are
[02:46:16] trapped across the Persian Gulf.
[02:46:18] These ships have an estimated 20,000 sailors on board.
[02:46:23] This is the only internationally recognized safe route for them to travel through the
[02:46:28] Strait of Hormuz.
[02:46:30] But instead, the Americans are now advising ships to travel through territorial waters
[02:46:35] off the coast of Oman.
[02:46:38] Iran's Revolutionary Guard is doubling down in response, claiming that the entire waterway
[02:46:44] between these two red lines is under Iranian control.
[02:46:49] a day of tension rising in the Gulf once again. With President Macron among America's allies,
[02:46:55] no doubt worried that the three-week ceasefire has either collapsed or is about to.
[02:47:01] What we want most of all is a joint reopening between Iran and the United States. That's
[02:47:06] the only solution that will allow us to permanently reopen the Strait of Hormuz, allow free navigation
[02:47:11] and this guy literally fucking
[02:47:19] this guy in the united arab Emirates is freaking the fuck out
[02:47:24] i hear them going up pray for me chat bro get out of there
[02:47:28] get out of there
[02:47:31] if you have the if you have the money to get the fuck out of there get out of
[02:47:34] there he's like i'm a forager bro
[02:47:36] i hear the i hear the bombs blown up in the distance
[02:47:45] we're praying for you we're praying for you
[02:47:51] well i i don't think you can get out of there because i assume that they
[02:47:54] suspended the flights but
[02:47:58] uh... without restrictions or tolls
[02:48:01] tonight the united arab emirates are saying they intercepted three missiles
[02:48:05] here, while a fourth fell into the sea. The Emiratis describing this as a serious escalation
[02:48:12] to which they reserve the right to respond. Well, Kate Fisher is in Washington for us.
[02:48:19] What's the latest from President Trump? Well, as he begins this operation to try to help
[02:48:27] the freedom of movement, it looks like this is the most fragile that this ceasefire has
[02:48:33] being he's just within the last hour told Fox News that if the Iranians attack US ships
[02:48:39] they will be blown off the face of the earth. He's also taken to his truth social platform
[02:48:46] and said that Iran has been taking some shots at unrelated nations. He's returning to a
[02:48:51] south, referring to a South Korean ship there. When you're so rich you forgot that you can
[02:48:56] move by legs instead of plane. Buddy. To look at a map, you know what I mean? It's not,
[02:49:05] it's not super easy to fucking take a multiple day trip out of there. Okay. Yeah, just fucking
[02:49:14] walk out of the United Arab Emirates. This guy said fell into the sea. What is this much
[02:49:25] Worse than last time nearly 1.2 gigawatt fire detected this was 30 minutes ago
[02:49:30] Pujera was struck
[02:49:32] Yeah, it's a lot guys guys guys and to the chatter who's right there
[02:49:39] He can confirm for us, but it's a clearly it's a laundry fire. Okay, these things happen
[02:49:45] It's probably another laundry fire
[02:49:49] Okay
[02:49:55] Yes, it did classic. It went up in flames the laundry. It is. Thank you. Shit, what
[02:50:05] if Saudi attacks? Oh yeah, that's the other, well, I don't think they're going to do that
[02:50:09] right now, but you know, you could also be invaded by Saudi Arabia at some point. There's
[02:50:13] that too. I would just get the fuck out of the United Arab Emirates if I had the, if
[02:50:17] I lived there, I'm just saying.
[02:50:18] He joked, maybe now South Korea will join my effort. He has regularly wanted other countries
[02:50:24] to support the U.S. here. And he also says, reiterates that the U.S. has shot down these
[02:50:30] fast boats. He says that is all that Iran has left. We also know that for the first time
[02:50:37] since the ceasefire was brought in around a month ago, the United Arab Emirates has sent
[02:50:42] out a missile threat warning to its citizens. So it certainly feels as though this ceasefire
[02:50:48] is in its most fragile face yet.
[02:50:51] oil price going sharply up. What does that mean for the US economy?
[02:50:56] Yeah, 4% rise today. Gasoline prices here. Americans love their cars. They've jumped to
[02:51:03] nearly 50% more than when this conflict began. And it's been reflected in Donald Trump's poll
[02:51:09] ratings. His disappointment. You are correct. This is likely a cluttered 280 laundry fire
[02:51:14] launched from the Bushair laundry and dry cleaning facility. Many such cases of this
[02:51:22] happening, you know.
[02:51:24] We will rating at a record high and of course we've got midterm elections in November and
[02:51:34] it won't be good for Republicans trying to get reelected with this kind of discipline.
[02:51:39] Yeah, that's what he's worried about, which is so sad.
[02:51:45] The only calculation here is not like human lives being lost or the energy markets in
[02:51:52] a state of crisis.
[02:51:54] But what this does for, not even like the midterms necessarily, when they say, oh, Trump
[02:52:02] is worried about the midterms, like for the party performance, he's not even worried about,
[02:52:06] But I think that the Republican Party failing, he's worried about what that does to his confidence,
[02:52:12] right?
[02:52:14] Like what that says about how much people don't fuck with Trump any longer.
[02:52:17] That's the only thing he cares about.
[02:52:19] It's about his own popularity.
[02:52:23] And that's it.
[02:52:24] There's no real, there's no real calculation being made about the future of the Republican
[02:52:31] party. I just don't think that the administration cares about or Trump cares about that at all.
[02:52:40] Very puzzled by UA's vision for the future. You can't be Israel or Russia or in Switzerland
[02:52:45] or Singapore at the same time. Exactly. I said this when they pulled out of OPEC,
[02:52:52] that they think that they're going to be Israel, but they will never be Israel. Only one country
[02:52:58] is Israel and that's Israel, okay? I don't know why they think that they, I don't know why they
[02:53:05] thought, oh, we'll just fucking pull out the ripcord and just lean heavily into America
[02:53:10] and then they'll, uh, they'll defend us. They won't, they haven't so far. What makes you think they
[02:53:16] will now? What makes you think they have the capacity to defend you? Questions that I have
[02:53:23] that I don't think I'll ever be able to have answers to.
[02:53:33] Not only do they now have the APAC equivalent, but like Israel was able to develop this relationship,
[02:53:38] this insane relationship with the United States of America over years and years and years of
[02:53:45] being a reliable and loyal ally and an asset. Like, there's no comparison here.
[02:53:58] One leaf OPEC, one singular iron dome missile. Yeah, we're talking about 80 years. We're talking
[02:54:04] about the Cold War, right? We're talking about Pan-Arabic nationalism, which necessitated a
[02:54:11] force that could destabilize and cut through the pan-arabic nationalism,
[02:54:15] oftentimes militarily destroy countries that were making moves that could
[02:54:22] damage America's interest in this oil-rich region.
[02:54:27] But even by today's standards, America being an exporter
[02:54:31] of oil, they wouldn't have cared about Israel as much,
[02:54:35] right? This is before the shale revolution in America.
[02:54:39] So, like, there is no, there's no way that you can design a similar, sophisticated relationship
[02:54:48] with the United States of America that's like, that will never exist ever again.
[02:55:01] Of the GCC states, the UAE has been the most openly aggressive about rejecting.
[02:55:04] There was also the Six-Week War, i.e. defeat, the most openly Israel aligned,
[02:55:08] clashing with Saudi for not supporting UAE Israel's desire for more war the UAE has learned nothing
[02:55:15] yeah it just doesn't make any fucking sense i don't know what the hell they're thinking
[02:55:20] it's a very dangerous gamble for them which is why i'm telling you if you live in the united
[02:55:26] arab emirates get the fuck out if you can if you take both the support in the axio support about
[02:55:32] Saudi lobbying for war at face value then it suggests that Saudi arabia knowingly created a
[02:55:36] situation where Iran would try to kill the idea of Dubai.
[02:55:41] Dilawor Karwan says this tidbit was buried in the Wall Street Journal's report on the
[02:55:44] UAE leaving OPEC.
[02:55:45] There were also rumors that KSA was pro-war because it harmed other GC powers, especially
[02:55:49] UAE, while leaving Saudi relatively unscathed.
[02:55:54] Have they cut a side deal with Iran?
[02:55:55] I don't think they've cut a side deal with Iran, but I think that they have had a rift.
[02:56:04] Saudi Arabia had a big rift with the UAE already, given UAE's interest in becoming the little
[02:56:12] Israel in the Gulf, and also aligning heavily with Israel.
[02:56:18] So they're trying to, they're trying to game it out in a way that favors them.
[02:56:25] Approval for the president.
[02:56:27] Because remember, the United Arab Emirates has been the number one defender of Israel
[02:56:31] in this region, okay?
[02:56:33] Kate Fisher. Well, joining us now is Barbara Leaf, who served as Assistant Secretary of
[02:56:38] State for Near Eastern Affairs under President Biden and was previously the U.S. Ambassador
[02:56:44] to the United Arab Emirates. What do you make of the situation today?
[02:56:48] Well, I think Fragile is exactly the right way to describe the ceasefire. Look, there
[02:56:55] were completely, as far as I can tell, unprovoked attacks by Iran today on the UAE in several
[02:57:02] different places, one on Fujairah export port, export facility, and then fork.
[02:57:10] What does little Israel mean? How do I explain this to my parents? The United Arab Emirates
[02:57:13] is a part of the Gulf Nations coalition, the Gulf countries, right, GCC. The United Arab
[02:57:20] Emirates has always aligned with Israel and have secured Israeli interest in the region,
[02:57:29] addition for better relationships with Israel. The United Arab Emirates also has its own
[02:57:33] regional ambitions as well. Sometimes it odds with Saudi Arabia in countries like Yemen
[02:57:38] against both Iran and Saudi Arabia. But these countries that are vassals to American
[02:57:51] empire. Hey, Hasan, how does the UAE work? I know Saudi Arabia has princes. The United
[02:58:00] Arab Emirates is a collection of, I believe, seven Emirates, right? Is it seven? I can't
[02:58:06] remember the exact number, but they're like tiny micro states that are all under the banner
[02:58:11] of one emirate, okay? They're all monarchies.
[02:58:24] That's how it works. There's one top guy. There's one top guy that controls all seven
[02:58:30] of the tiny nations within this tiny nation.
[02:58:35] Um, and, uh, and that's it.
[02:58:46] Yeah, there's seven Emirates, each has an emir, and they have a council together, but Abu Dhabi,
[02:58:51] Abu Dhabi's emir, MBZ dominates the rest, makes the final decisions for the rest of them.
[02:59:00] UAE is a part of Israel,
[02:59:02] Israel Tasnim, an Iranian military official warns that if UAE becomes a pawn of Israel
[02:59:08] and takes action, Iran will respond forcefully, adding that Emirati interests could become
[02:59:13] targets.
[02:59:14] The official adds, any escalation would trigger a broader response, with Iran no longer exercising
[02:59:17] restraint and potentially treating UAE as a part of Israel in this conflict.
[02:59:23] Truth nuke, but it's also, some might even say it's been there all along.
[02:59:30] Some IRGC commanders have already said that they want to kill the idea of Dubai, openly
[02:59:42] stating that they want to destroy the United Arab Emirates, basically, and that's part
[02:59:46] of the reason why they've been pummeling the UAE, because the UAE has been an extension
[02:59:52] of Israel in the region for a decade at this point.
[02:59:56] cruise missiles directed towards the UAE, which they were
[02:59:59] fortunately largely able to intercept.
[03:00:02] Then you've got the random attacks on different ships
[03:00:05] either trying to exit the straight or just off the straight.
[03:00:11] Right, but you know, Iran is saying Trump's trying
[03:00:16] to break the blockade.
[03:00:18] That's why they're responding.
[03:00:20] I mean, the Brinkmanship on both sides is very alarming,
[03:00:24] isn't it?
[03:00:25] close to a return to war?
[03:00:28] Of course, of course.
[03:00:29] There, this is definitely on the upswing
[03:00:32] towards an escalatory cycle on both sides.
[03:00:35] But what I guess what I'm pointing out
[03:00:37] is that Iran made clear how it will respond.
[03:00:41] It shot cruise missiles towards UAE,
[03:00:45] which had nothing to do with this.
[03:00:47] The US Navy trying to clear away for ships transit.
[03:00:51] I know one of those ships that transited
[03:00:54] because I was conversing with a captain on one of them.
[03:00:57] So it that-
[03:00:59] Like people who are asking, what about Azerbaijan?
[03:01:02] They're like the UAE too.
[03:01:03] Azerbaijan is a relatively new player in all of this.
[03:01:07] Azerbaijan is also an extension of Turkey.
[03:01:10] And Turkey plays ball with both sides.
[03:01:13] It's not like the UAE.
[03:01:14] The UAE does not play ball with any side
[03:01:17] other than Israel and America.
[03:01:19] So, Azerbaijan is not like a serious player at all.
[03:01:26] They're just an energy provider to Israel, and they're mostly just an extension of Turkey's
[03:01:33] interests.
[03:01:35] And they're like a junior partner to whatever Turkey's ambitions are in the region.
[03:01:41] So they get most of their notes from Turkey.
[03:01:52] Azerbaijan is thickest thieves with Israel, Western intelligence, and Turkey out of the
[03:01:55] war.
[03:01:56] I'm very publicly called on Azerbaijan, yes, to avoid getting sucked into the US-Israel
[03:01:58] war in Iran after a handful of Iranian drones hit the Naqshivan exclave.
[03:02:03] Iranians at the border of the city of Julf and Northwest Iran saw six drones moving towards
[03:02:07] East and center of Iran, each two minutes apart.
[03:02:09] Julfa borders with Osir by John.
[03:02:14] Yeah.
[03:02:16] So they're, they're not going to be, they're not, they're not going to behave in a way like the United Arab Emirates is.
[03:02:22] And they haven't behaved in a way, uh, like the United Arab Emirates has so far.
[03:02:37] It's not good for Turkey, nor it's good for Iran to also broaden this regional conflict
[03:02:46] and bring Turkey into the fold as well.
[03:02:50] So they're not going to do anything.
[03:02:56] It's not beneficial for Turkey, Erdogan does have a crumb of sovereignty here, even though
[03:03:01] it is a vassal. Erdogan and Turkey is a NATO country. It's a vassal for that reason. But
[03:03:09] Erdogan does have some semblance of sovereignty and will make decisions that keep Turkey out of
[03:03:19] this broader conflict. And that is what's going on so far. Turkey has no interest whatsoever in
[03:03:27] participating in this war against Iran.
[03:03:34] Israel wants to Gaza Turkey, what do you mean?
[03:03:36] Israel will not be able to Gazify Turkey.
[03:03:39] Turkey is not Lebanon, Turkey is not Hezbollah, Turkey is the second largest standing military
[03:03:44] and its own indigenous military-industrial complex, it's not, it's the largest military
[03:03:52] in Europe, if you want to call Turkey a part of Europe.
[03:03:55] So there is no comparison.
[03:03:59] It's a fucking giant country, almost the size of Iran by population and has a standing military.
[03:04:09] It doesn't have striking capabilities like Iran does, but it has a much more competent
[03:04:18] actual fucking military force.
[03:04:22] How many New Jersey's is Turkey?
[03:04:32] I don't know how many New Jersey's Turkey is.
[03:04:42] Turkey also is, Turkey gets clapped if they don't create an underground drone program.
[03:04:50] Uh, Saddam also had a standing military, true. Um, but again, America supports Turkey. It's a,
[03:04:59] it's a profoundly important, uh, military base for the United States of America in the region. It's a,
[03:05:06] it's a, it's a partner that, that plays a huge role. Without Turkey, Syria and the Bashar al-Assad
[03:05:12] regime would not have been toppled, okay? It's, it's totally fucking ridiculous.
[03:05:19] Like Turkey plays a major role in America's interest in the region, a bigger role than Israel does.
[03:05:29] It's also a NATO country. Turkey also, given it's like a fake sovereignty,
[03:05:35] can play the role of a mediator between Russia and America at times.
[03:05:42] Turkey always plays both sides, but never forget we're talking about a country
[03:05:52] that has American nukes inside of American military bases inside of its
[03:05:57] national boundaries. It's ridiculous to be like, oh yeah, America's just gonna
[03:06:02] drop Turkey and NATO in general at the behest of Israel. I mean, never say
[03:06:09] ever obviously because this is an unbelievably pro-Israel country but I don't know if it would go that far that would be
[03:06:18] That would not be beneficial for Israel. I don't think
[03:06:25] Of course Israel has been saying that they want this to happen regardless but
[03:06:31] That was successful and Ron's attempting to show what it will do in reprisal
[03:06:36] which is again direct fire towards the Gulf States.
[03:06:40] Right. I mean, do you see any diplomatic progress towards any kind of settlement here?
[03:06:45] Or are we edging towards, you know, military action being the way Trump gets out of this?
[03:06:51] I think it's clear we're edging towards another round of military operations.
[03:06:56] But what could that achieve?
[03:06:59] Very little in my view. I think it's clear that this effort to add economic attrition
[03:07:05] is the main game, but there are the preparations for another round of military pressures.
[03:07:13] And I don't see either one of those moving the dial with this regime.
[03:07:18] There's really, you know, what the administration really needs to do is set itself to a tough
[03:07:23] diplomatic course, and they don't seem to have the appetite for that.
[03:07:26] What do you mean by that?
[03:07:27] What would that involve?
[03:07:29] That means sitting down at the table and getting into a...
[03:07:32] If another country is a military base in your country and put their nukes there, you don't
[03:07:35] actually have nukes? Yes. I understand that. I'm literally Turkish. What are you talking
[03:07:41] about? I'm simply stating that Israel attacking a country with American nukes inside of American
[03:07:48] bases has never happened before. It's a nuclear umbrella. Turkey is a part of the American
[03:07:55] nuclear security umbrella.
[03:08:05] Israel is an American vassal. It's an extension of American empire. That would be a a
[03:08:13] This would be a very different calculation
[03:08:20] Yeah, I get that my country's in the same situation Turkey also operates sometimes independently
[03:08:28] outside of American interests like immediate American interests
[03:08:31] in comparison to like even the European vassal states long set of difficult negotiations.
[03:08:40] Ultimately, that is still beneficial for American interest, though, because that way America uses
[03:08:47] Turkey as a mediator at times. For example, against Russia, there has been a little bit
[03:08:53] of movement in this latest proposal, we think by the Iranians to at least not make it a condition
[03:08:58] for sitting down at the table that the blockade be lifted.
[03:09:03] But something's got to give,
[03:09:04] and otherwise this will head towards military operations.
[03:09:07] Do you think there is a better diplomatic solution
[03:09:10] than what was effectively the old deal done under Obama?
[03:09:16] Or is that what we're looking at rebashed as a Trump deal?
[03:09:20] Well, the large difference, the really huge difference
[03:09:24] is the fact that virtually the whole nuclear program
[03:09:28] is shattered. So you've got the left over pieces of it to deal with.
[03:09:34] Ixia Oldum, Turkey won't survive this decade. Classic Turk in the chat. Classic Turk defeatism
[03:09:43] in the chat, by the way.
[03:09:46] But you're not starting from the same threshold of activity. That's a huge advantage.
[03:09:50] Thank you very much and leave your time.
[03:09:53] Let me begin by saying congratulations to the small business people of the year from
[03:10:01] all 50 states.
[03:10:03] It's a big deal.
[03:10:04] It's a big deal and you can be proud of yourself or our countries made up of a lot of small
[03:10:09] businesses and that ends up.
[03:10:11] My mother was a small business.
[03:10:16] As you all know, just like Kamala Harris, my mother too was a small business.
[03:10:20] business so was my father we love being a nation of tiny businesses the tiniest of all size of
[03:10:28] New Jersey all of our businesses they're so small don't we love it folks being a really big business
[03:10:35] as small business owners and operators the people in this room represent the 36 million small
[03:10:41] businesses and create 40 percent of all economic activity in the united states think of that a
[03:10:47] a group of people added together,
[03:10:51] you're essentially the most important factor
[03:10:54] business-wise in the whole country.
[03:10:57] And this country is leading the whole world.
[03:10:59] We are now, now I can tell you, by a lot.
[03:11:03] You're the lifeblood of the American economy.
[03:11:06] And with your help, we're truly making America great again.
[03:11:09] It's with your record business.
[03:11:12] We have a stock market that even with this military operation, call it what
[03:11:19] can we redact questions?
[03:11:20] Yo, you think they're going to jail?
[03:11:21] I asked for saying stuff to you.
[03:11:23] And if they do, it's stuff to you.
[03:11:27] And if they do, you got me though, right?
[03:11:30] Brother.
[03:11:34] Not Turkey, not America, nor Israel is exactly fond of me.
[03:11:40] Okay.
[03:11:42] I can't begin to explain to you that you are so on your own, okay?
[03:11:51] There's not a single country on this planet that would uh that that I have any sort of influence
[03:11:56] over, okay? The only influence I have is negative. You are on your own.
[03:12:03] You can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. We had all new highs and I said, can I redact
[03:12:13] my questions? You'll be fine. You're anonymous because we can't let that happen. So we did
[03:12:20] a little detour and it's working out very nicely. They have no Navy. They have no Air
[03:12:26] Force. They have no anti aircraft equipment. They have no radar. They have no nothing.
[03:12:32] no leaders, actually.
[03:12:34] The leaders happened to be gone, also.
[03:12:38] But can't let them have a nuclear weapon,
[03:12:40] who you can have problems like nobody would believe.
[03:12:44] And it's going very well.
[03:12:47] We're also pleased to be joined this afternoon
[03:12:49] by Secretary of Energy Chris Reiter.
[03:12:52] It's been amazing.
[03:12:53] Where's Chris?
[03:12:55] Except we were, everybody was wrong.
[03:12:58] They thought that energy would be at $300, right?
[03:13:01] $300 a barrel and it's like at a hundred and I think going down and I see it going down
[03:13:10] very substantially when this is over Chris and I think I think very rapidly too at levels
[03:13:15] that you've never seen because there's a lot of energy out there ships all over the world
[03:13:20] that are loaded up with it they can't do much with it because they got kidnapped by a pretty
[03:13:27] evil place but we're taking care of it.
[03:13:30] So it's day 66 of the Iran war.
[03:13:33] The Strait of Hormuz is closed.
[03:13:34] Oil is not flowing freely.
[03:13:36] The US blockade shown here is still in place.
[03:13:39] And Mr. Buttle, for who is actually in control
[03:13:41] of the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and America
[03:13:44] amidst loads of claims and counterclaims?
[03:13:46] Today, Iran issued a new map showing the boundaries
[03:13:49] of where it claims its control in the Strait of Hormuz,
[03:13:52] either side of Amman.
[03:13:54] They also claimed that they'd fired two missiles
[03:13:56] and struck an American warship.
[03:13:58] Although counterclaims eventually,
[03:14:00] although this was just off the coast of Jask
[03:14:02] outside that area,
[03:14:03] but the central command to Iran has said
[03:14:05] that nothing had been struck.
[03:14:07] Iran modified their language after that.
[03:14:10] US command had also claimed
[03:14:11] that six of the fast patrol boats
[03:14:13] that Iran has been using were blown out of the water.
[03:14:16] President Trump later said that there were seven blown out
[03:14:19] and also that there'd been a cruise missiles
[03:14:21] being used against shipping in the strait.
[03:14:23] Again, Iran denied all of this.
[03:14:26] This comes amid President Trump's claims
[03:14:28] two U.S. carrier vessels were actually escorted through the straits of four Moos successfully
[03:14:35] earlier on the day, all part of project freedom to restore freedom of transit.
[03:14:39] Have you tried to get Mark Carney on the stream? He's been on podcasts in the past like Scott
[03:14:44] Galloway's brother. Do you think I'm comparable to Scott Galloway? I highly doubt that Mark
[03:14:51] Carney would come on my broadcast. I mean I open invite if he wants to, but I don't think
[03:15:02] he would be down to do that. I'm going to be honest with you.
[03:15:13] I shall vessels through this area. Again Iran denies that this was achieved. All of this
[03:15:18] is designed to relieve the 2,000 vessels and allegedly 20,000 seafarers that are actually
[03:15:24] trapped in the Gulf of Amman. But US Central Command, how are they actually going to police
[03:15:30] this new operation? Well, they've got a number of assets they claim to be using, 15,000 troops,
[03:15:37] there's a marine expeditionary unit in the region, probably that's where they're going to come from.
[03:15:41] You've also got aircraft carriers like the Lincoln mounting fighter jets, not only off the carriers,
[03:15:46] but also of land basing and then missile destroyers in the region as well. The threats are quite significant,
[03:15:52] one of them is obviously anti-ship missiles provided by China. They can be deadly, that's why you've got
[03:15:58] the missile destroyers in place, but also the fighter jets that will look to target the launchers as well.
[03:16:04] We've also have reports that cruise missiles are being used again, the destroyers,
[03:16:08] but these are very easy targets relatively for the fighter jets to take out. But the big threat
[03:16:13] is these fast patrol boats. Numerous, often packed full of explosives. And as we can see
[03:16:19] a couple here, and we'll see a bit later in the shot, significantly more, they can be
[03:16:24] incredibly dangerous. But if you remember for the Somali pirating activities, they were
[03:16:29] very quickly solved by putting armed personnel on board the commercial shipping, because
[03:16:34] that's a stable platform, soldiers with machine guns. It's relatively simple, but the fast
[03:16:39] patrol boats have no answer for that. That's almost certainly how the Americans dealt with
[03:16:44] this threat earlier on. The key issue though for all of this is time. If we look at the
[03:16:49] straight-up warm-moves map, you've clearly got the blockage of the minefield. We're still
[03:16:53] not sure how many mines are actually in there, but that forces any shipping to get up to
[03:16:57] the north, just south of Lurak Island and back again. That puts it very close to Iran
[03:17:02] and therefore a very high threat. It's also, if you're going to get 2,000...
[03:17:06] politics. I don't think you're comparable to Scott Galloway, but in region audience size,
[03:17:09] yes, you're comparable. No, I have a bigger audience than Scott Galloway does, but that
[03:17:13] doesn't mean anything because Scott Galloway is safe. Scott Galloway is like a known entity in
[03:17:20] liberal circles. He's like a well respected liberal. Scott Galloway also is like kind of pro,
[03:17:27] I mean, not kind of a pretty pro Israel too. That's another, that's another huge deal there too. So
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[03:17:54] The vessel is out. Even if you put the relatively close together, it's probably about a week's
[03:18:03] worth of transit, 24 and 7, incredibly risky. And you have to remember, Iran doesn't have
[03:18:08] to hit all of them. It only has to hit one. And suddenly confidence in this project will
[03:18:12] be undermined immediately. But for now, it is.
[03:18:16] Yes. Iran has to hit an American ship. Like Iran, if Iran wants to establish full tilt
[03:18:23] military deterrence, it has to hit an American naval asset. Like that is, that would be the
[03:18:31] ultimate military deterrence in the Strait of Hormuz. If they were to get a successful strike
[03:18:38] on an American naval carrier, naval asset, then it's, it's unbelievably over. It's more over than
[03:18:45] it's ever been. They're saying that they have done so. So they've, they're saying that they've
[03:18:51] done so already. But you need to have a clear image of it. Without that, it doesn't mean anything.
[03:18:56] Because if they've been able to hit an American asset here, it might deter America from continuing
[03:19:10] military operations. But if it's just like a minor dent or something, they could just write it off as
[03:19:17] a laundry fire, right? As they have done so in the past. So that's the situation.
[03:19:24] Alright, let's look at what Trita Parsey had to say to Dropsite News. Trump snatched defeat
[03:19:29] from the jaws of success. Trump really, Dr. Trita Parsey, Iran expert at Quincy Institute,
[03:19:37] friend of the show, told Dropsite that Trump squandered a ceasefire that disproportionately
[03:19:41] favored the United States. Trump really snatched defeat from the jaws of success because the
[03:19:45] ceasefire actually disproportionately favored the United States, Parsi said.
[03:19:49] Without resuming the war, Trump could have alleviated pressure on global energy markets,
[03:19:53] eroded Iranian leverage, and drawn out a negotiating process that immediately
[03:19:58] lifting sanctions, one of Tehran's core demands. Instead, he escalated.
[03:20:02] The more aggressive Trump's rhetoric tends to become, the more he says that Iranians are in
[03:20:06] disarray, the more it tends to be a reflection of the fact that his own negotiating position
[03:20:10] has become tremendously vulnerable and weakened, Parsi said. This is also true.
[03:20:14] Parsley said that Trump has also appeared to embrace the faulty FDD projections,
[03:20:20] projections including those produced by the neoconservative think tank foundation for
[03:20:24] the defense of democracies, which is again an Israeli cutout, just so you understand. Initially
[03:20:30] started as under the name Emmett, Hebrew for truth. In 2001, its stated purpose for foundation
[03:20:37] for defending democracy was to defend Israel's interest in America. Okay, to launder Israel's
[03:20:44] reputation in America. FTD is a, is a reflection of whatever the Israeli goals are. Okay. And
[03:20:53] they are inside of the administration is Benjamin and Yala's own personal think tank. And they're
[03:20:57] currently, they have FTD guys that are in the negotiations rooms now, as, as this past week,
[03:21:05] Donald Trump hired someone from FDD to sit next to Whitcoff and Jared Kushner.
[03:21:11] So it's totally ridiculous. But yeah, FDD in the interest of advancing
[03:21:21] Israel's goals here is going to sully any kind of negotiation process that might
[03:21:26] be implemented and continue feeding bad information to the United States of
[03:21:31] America, and we all know how that fucking worked so far.
[03:21:35] FDD has convinced Trump that his naval blockade would bring a weekend and more pliable Iran
[03:21:42] to the negotiating table.
[03:21:43] Trump began claiming that Iranian oil infrastructure was on the verge of catastrophic failure.
[03:21:48] On what Trump is actually seeking, Parsi said, I think Trump is looking for some sort of spectacular
[03:21:52] military action that is not necessarily successful on a strategic level, but on a tactical level
[03:21:57] gives the impression that he has dominance, escalation dominance, and control.
[03:22:01] And then go to the negotiating table and strike a deal.
[03:22:04] The Iranians are not going to allow him to get that.
[03:22:08] It may actually prove to be a blessing for the Iranians if Trump resumes military attacks,
[03:22:12] Parsi said.
[03:22:14] Is Sarah Longwell coming on the broadcast?
[03:22:15] No.
[03:22:16] What?
[03:22:17] Where is this coming from?
[03:22:18] What?
[03:22:19] Does she even indicate she wants to?
[03:22:24] would love that. Why are you spamming this? Anyway, Iran still has escalation dominance
[03:22:50] in this scenario. On the contrary, I think the Iranians have now further honed their
[03:22:54] strategy. They are more confident about exactly what they can achieve.
[03:22:57] Parse said Iran would likely expand attacks on the Gulf, particularly targeting the UAE.
[03:23:01] Israel's closest Arab ally, the report was published just before the US attacks on Fujairah.
[03:23:05] UAE were confirmed later in the day on Monday.
[03:23:11] On Trump's China visit scheduled for May 14th, Parse said economic pressure is the only news
[03:23:16] that seems to impact the White House. The only thing that reaches him is how bad the
[03:23:21] economy is going. It used to be markets and munitions, and now it's markets, munitions,
[03:23:28] and midterms, right? Like, domestic pressure, domestic pressure coming from inside of, or
[03:23:40] domestic pressure coming from the Republican Party's future, domestic pressure that impacts
[03:23:45] trump's popularity domestic pressure that is increasing as a consequence of
[03:23:50] uh... prices for the average american consumer at the gas pumps
[03:23:53] uh... skyrocketing
[03:23:59] the only thing that reaches him is how bad the economy's going in a much of a
[03:24:02] problem it's going to be for him if he has to show up in beijing and face the
[03:24:06] chinese from this other position of embarrassment and
[03:24:09] weakness
[03:24:10] hold on let me get back to it real quick with a focus of your
[03:24:14] he still has this false illusion of the blockade one way or another is going to
[03:24:18] deliver in the type of victory that will rewrite the entire history of these
[03:24:21] last seven to eight weeks
[03:24:23] if he goes after iran's exports to china he will not only escalate this
[03:24:26] regional conflict into a global conflict
[03:24:28] but it will further push up oil prices which will backfire faster on him
[03:24:32] they will backfire on the iranians
[03:24:34] on iran's emerging toll system
[03:24:37] parsey said that while some countries may bulk at the idea of paying tolls to
[03:24:40] iran eventually they would accept this is a new norm
[03:24:43] at the end of the day they need their oil and they will pay the fees
[03:24:46] and the iranians are going to use the fee collections not necessarily something
[03:24:49] that replaces all income but something that forces countries to re-establish
[03:24:53] financial connections with iran
[03:24:55] countries that otherwise had left the iranian markets as a result of u.s
[03:24:58] sanctions he said
[03:25:00] now the iranians have leverage to push them back in and that is of tremendous
[03:25:04] value to them to be able to make sure that they have these connections
[03:25:08] this is precisely the reason why i said from the start that america's interests
[03:25:13] in, in adding the European partners into the fold was not to have them, uh, was not to have
[03:25:23] them necessarily, uh, uh, uh, fuck, I came in. I'm all over the place. America's interest,
[03:25:31] uh, stated by Marco Rubio was to apply pressure to Iran. That wasn't to actually have their
[03:25:37] military assets in the region because America has maximum military leverage, right? In comparison
[03:25:42] to the European allies. What the fuck is one like nuclear aircraft carrier from France
[03:25:47] going to do, right? That Americans can't. America has 11 that they can use against Iran
[03:25:55] if they choose to do so, right? The real reason why they wanted European partners to engage
[03:26:02] Iran militarily was not for the military pressure, but more so for the diplomatic pressure.
[03:26:08] Because Iran is, by way of the toll system, forcing bilateral commitments with EU partners.
[03:26:15] Okay?
[03:26:17] Iran wants to be a sovereign state that is a normal country that can have normal commerce
[03:26:23] with these international, with the rest of the markets, even if they can't do it with
[03:26:28] the United States of America, because that was one of the big problems with the sanctions
[03:26:31] regime, was that all of these other countries worried about secondary sanctions that they
[03:26:35] they might receive from the United States of America, stop trading with Iran. Okay.
[03:26:44] And Iran is successfully implementing these bilateral commitments right now with all of
[03:26:50] these other countries, including with France. Okay. The plan was simple. The UAE exits OPEC,
[03:26:57] breaks free from its limits and ramps up production. Two days later, America announces
[03:27:00] operation freedom and forces open the street of Hormuz. Emirati oil floods the market,
[03:27:04] crisis crash in Iran loses its only powerful card in negotiations. Iran sent a strong
[03:27:10] clear message today. You want cheap oil, you won't get it unless you return in negotiations
[03:27:13] and provide guarantees to implement our demands that you agreed to discuss. By successfully
[03:27:18] foiling their plan, Iran will return in negotiations on a stronger position than before, and it
[03:27:22] will prove to the world that it controls the Hormuz, and whoever controls the Hormuz
[03:27:27] controls the oil, and whoever controls the oil controls the world. Okay, this is a little
[03:27:31] bit aggressive, but yeah. Thoughts on China telling firms to ignore sanctions. It makes
[03:27:39] total sense. Obviously, China has been ignoring the sanctions. Why the fuck would they not
[03:27:44] say this publicly? Trump is repeatedly overplaying his hand on Iran and America to America's
[03:27:49] strategic detriment. China is not telling firms to ignore new U.S. sanctions on Iranian
[03:27:53] oil per Bloomberg. This signals a far more aggressive stance from China and risks pulling
[03:27:58] global banks into a U.S.-China standoff. You don't want to have this conversation because
[03:28:05] Donald Trump did not successfully decoupled the rest of the world from China. That was the goal
[03:28:10] of the Liberation Day tariffs, if you recall. But that failed, okay? That fucking failed. America
[03:28:18] had to buckle under the pressure. And therefore, America does not have the capacity to force other
[03:28:24] countries to no longer trade with China.
[03:28:27] China is still the manufacturing hub of the planet.
[03:28:31] Explainer China decided this time to directly resist latest US sanctions.
[03:28:34] Trump and his eternal wisdom all but forced them to.
[03:28:38] Huge news in China today since Besant actually sanctioned larger entities this time.
[03:28:42] Hengli is a huge deal.
[03:28:43] China is entirely willing to fight economic war over this from what I can see.
[03:28:47] I will not talk about why Hengli is a big deal and why the Trump admin stepped over
[03:28:51] the line.
[03:28:52] Yeah, this was China invoking the blocking statute for the first time. China's Ministry
[03:28:59] of Commerce has for the first time activated its 2021 blocking rules, ordering all Chinese
[03:29:05] firms and individuals not to comply with U.S. sanctions targeting five independent Chinese
[03:29:09] oil refineries accused of purchasing Iranian crude.
[03:29:15] This leaves only one option for the United States of America. Either the United States
[03:29:21] America now will forcibly overtake Iranian oil tankers that are slated to arrive at Chinese
[03:29:29] oil refineries, or they just have to back away from it.
[03:29:37] America that has had a terrible time so far, trying to militarily dominate Iran,
[03:29:43] a much smaller country than China, now has to go up against the manufacturing base of the entire
[03:29:49] planet. It's not going to happen unless they're fucking insane. And you know, the reasonable
[03:29:56] option here is to back the fuck away. But also, the reasonable option has always been
[03:30:01] to also negotiate with Iran. The reasonable option was to never bomb Iran, but America
[03:30:06] never takes the reasonable option. So I don't know. Like the logical steps to take here
[03:30:29] is not to add a secondary blockade, which America did. The logical step here would be
[03:30:34] to de-escalate. Okay, the Mersh and Trita Parsi?
[03:30:41] Look at the situation that Trump is in. He is facing abject defeat. I mean, we can just
[03:30:48] whip stick on a pin. This is total go talk. Oh my God. All my goats. All my goats in one
[03:30:55] place. Trita Parsi and the Mersh. Oh my God, the Mersh and Trita Parsi. What the fuck?
[03:31:02] Which you can do in that regard. He lost this was a colossal wonder and really what's going on here is
[03:31:10] Whether or not he is going to accept defeat
[03:31:14] Mersheimer, please. I'm begging you to come on the broadcast. I love you. Please
[03:31:19] Please you are my goat
[03:31:22] Why won't you come on the why won't you come on the broadcast Mersheimer project Mersh?
[03:31:28] How do I not have a single fucking student of his?
[03:31:32] In my chat, how how is that possible?
[03:31:37] What the fuck are you guys doing?
[03:31:40] Actually, what the fuck are you guys doing?
[03:31:44] Get to work chatters. What why do I have this this clandestine network of
[03:31:51] parasocialists out there all around the world and definitely in the United States of America specifically in institutes of higher learning
[03:31:57] How how is this how is this even remotely possible that I haven't had one fucking student of the merch go up to him and be like
[03:32:07] Mr. Merch
[03:32:08] We really would like for you to collaborate with Hassan Hassanabi piker
[03:32:16] It doesn't make any sense contact Jeffrey sacks he knows Merch I know it's embarrassing to fucking ask
[03:32:23] ask Jeffrey Sacks to be like, Hey, can you put me in contact with the other goat? You
[03:32:29] are my goat, Professor Sacks, but I have another goat professor as well.
[03:32:36] Question is why slash how are you not trying hard enough to get him on? We are. We've been
[03:32:40] emailing him. He doesn't respond. And I don't even know why. We have emailed him a couple
[03:32:50] times at this point. I don't think he looks at his emails that much.
[03:32:58] Mikhail, a professor, and you can talk to him, professor to professor. I am a professor,
[03:33:03] Dr. Jirad. Remember, Dr. Jirad, professor of jihadology. Okay, PhD in racism. You know
[03:33:14] know this already. Doctorate in Jihad and I'm a professor of racism. I got a PhD in it.
[03:33:28] Events in Hormuz from Sayed Abbas Arakshi, another person I've tried to have on the broadcast,
[03:33:37] but he's definitely a little bit busier than Mersheimer. Events in Hormuz make clear that
[03:33:43] But there's no military solution to a political crisis. The talks are making progress of Pakistan's
[03:33:47] gracious effort. The U S should be wary of being dragged back into a quackmire by ill
[03:33:51] wishers.
[03:33:52] So should the UAE project freedom is project deadlock. I mean, he, this is about Israel.
[03:33:57] He's basically saying like, don't fall into the trap.
[03:34:08] You wash, you need a student's recommendation.
[03:34:10] Open presence.
[03:34:12] Oh my God.
[03:34:13] Open presence is back, dude.
[03:34:17] Is the straight open now?
[03:34:19] Is that what that means?
[03:34:25] Open presence, thank you for the hundo.
[03:34:29] Thump foolishly, once again, went with the advice of the Israelis, put on a blockade
[03:34:42] and now he's hurting more than the Iranians are.
[03:34:45] So the status quo suddenly is actually not as bad for the Iranians, unless, of course,
[03:34:51] He does something else that gets him out of that situation.
[03:34:54] Hello and welcome to Switzerland.
[03:35:06] I'm Tom Switzer, always great to have you company.
[03:35:10] And our guest today...
[03:35:11] That is not the voice I was expecting from this fucking guy.
[03:35:20] a treat a party from the Quincy Institute in Washington. Hi there,
[03:35:24] Trita.
[03:35:25] Good to see you, Tom.
[03:35:27] And Professor John Mishima from the University of Chicago. Always great to see you, John.
[03:35:32] And great to see you, Trita and you, Tom.
[03:35:35] Now, President Trump has said today that Sunday, May 3, that the U.S. would start guiding commercial ships through the Strait of Hormuz where they have been trained.
[03:35:46] Are you going to play this music the entire time because I genuinely don't know if I can
[03:35:49] watch this if there's like high intensity music playing in the background?
[03:35:54] Or nor!
[03:35:56] Professor Mishomer!
[03:35:58] Hello!
[03:36:00] I don't know how he can do that.
[03:36:08] What's he going to guide him out with?
[03:36:09] I would think they would have to be military ships.
[03:36:14] What else could he, the president, use?
[03:36:18] And I think there's no way that he can put military ships in the Gulf without them getting
[03:36:23] sunk.
[03:36:27] If he could put military ships, escort tankers, or cargo ships out of the gulf, he would have
[03:36:33] done it a long time ago.
[03:36:35] Why would he be waiting until now?
[03:36:38] The other thing is, he has a limited number of destroyers, and almost all those destroyers
[03:36:44] are used for the blockade, the US blockade.
[03:36:48] If he takes those destroyers from the US blockade, sends them into the Persian Gulf, they can't
[03:36:54] run the blockade anymore, plus if they get sunk to the bottom of the sea, then there
[03:37:00] are hardly any destroyers left or naval assets left to execute the blockade.
[03:37:08] So it's hard for me to see what he's doing.
[03:37:12] It could be that he's trying to provoke the Iranians, and he wants to make it look like
[03:37:18] the Iranians are responsible for restarting the war.
[03:37:24] I do believe, although he does not demonstrate this publicly
[03:37:29] that President Trump is desperate,
[03:37:31] I think that he and his advisors understand
[03:37:34] they are in deep trouble.
[03:37:36] And I think J.D. Vance is playing a key role
[03:37:39] in getting this message across to them.
[03:37:41] And I think they know, because the blockade
[03:37:44] only works in the long, long term,
[03:37:46] they have to do something else beforehand.
[03:37:50] And they, in the Trump administration and their acolytes
[03:37:54] and places like the Wall Street Journal,
[03:37:56] have been talking about starting the war up again
[03:37:59] in tandem with the blockade.
[03:38:01] I mean, I think this is a cockamamie idea,
[03:38:03] but that wouldn't, I wouldn't put that past
[03:38:06] President Trump to do.
[03:38:08] So he could be looking to start the war up
[03:38:11] and just putting the blame on the Iranians.
[03:38:15] but who knows it's just uh... such an amorphous uh...
[03:38:19] tweet on his part and uh... just came out of nowhere
[03:38:23] well if just a clear to be clear here that if it is this plan
[03:38:27] why are you on face on this guy i wish i wish i was face timing with my goats
[03:38:31] and does not allow this random australian guy who i don't know anything about for
[03:38:35] the record
[03:38:36] all u s navy warships escorting vessels through the strait
[03:38:41] How does this plan, the president calls it project freedom,
[03:38:45] Trita, how does he allow the US to guide these ships safely
[03:38:49] through the strait, especially given that these naval mines
[03:38:53] have been deployed by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps,
[03:38:56] Trita?
[03:38:58] It makes no sense.
[03:38:59] Now, of course, I agree with John.
[03:39:01] I would just add one other possibility,
[03:39:03] which is the most benign or optimistic one, which
[03:39:07] is that there is some confidence building measures
[03:39:11] being negotiated between the two sides.
[03:39:13] And as a result of that,
[03:39:15] the Iwanis will let through a number of ships
[03:39:18] that are belonging to third countries
[03:39:20] that are not involved in the fighting,
[03:39:23] which were most likely the Asian countries,
[03:39:25] probably not carrying any oil,
[03:39:28] but carrying other types of goods.
[03:39:30] And Trump kind of wants to take credit for it,
[03:39:33] but it's probably some kind of a confidence building measure
[03:39:35] that may have been negotiated between the two sides,
[03:39:38] which is partly because a lot of these Asian countries at this point are really
[03:39:42] starting to lose patience
[03:39:43] about the situation. They're the ones. I mean you would know better than me. Tom
[03:39:46] sitting in Australia, they are paying the price for this war.
[03:39:49] And Trump is only what, 10, 12 days away from having to go to Beijing for a
[03:39:53] summit with Xi. And he's going to
[03:39:54] arrive there
[03:39:56] deeply, deeply embarrassed, or he should be
[03:39:59] if this is not resolved by then.
[03:40:02] Would he have any leverage with China, John?
[03:40:06] Would Trump have any leverage with China?
[03:40:09] Well, China needs free access to all the transport
[03:40:13] through the strata formus, correct?
[03:40:15] There, there's one.
[03:40:16] I don't think Tom, he needs leverage with China.
[03:40:19] I think the Chinese want to end this as quickly as possible.
[03:40:23] I think almost every country on the planet,
[03:40:25] except for Israel wants to end this,
[03:40:27] but as quickly as possible.
[03:40:28] Oh, I realized that, but he might be thinking
[03:40:29] he'd put pressure on Beijing
[03:40:31] to put pressure on the Mullahs.
[03:40:32] How?
[03:40:33] What pressure can America, oh my God,
[03:40:36] What a waste. Dude, dude, this guy shouldn't talk at all. Let the goats talk. What a waste
[03:40:42] of a fucking moment to have with two goats. Oh my God. What kind of pressure could America
[03:40:52] place on China, especially right now, America is already maximally pressured out on their
[03:41:02] own due to their own actions. What could America do right now to apply pressure to Beijing?
[03:41:09] Lamau, you're so petty when you're jealous. Okay. I'm a little bit jealous for sure,
[03:41:13] but also this is kind of a, you know who I really like.
[03:41:19] You know who I really like in the, in the geopolitics front, that, that does these sorts
[03:41:24] to interviews with these goats. It's, um, Glenn Deeson. Okay. Glenn Deeson is the guy
[03:41:32] I really, I really like. You want to know why I really like this guy? I don't know what
[03:41:36] damn thing about his worldview. Okay. His job is to let Mersheimer talk. Okay. I love
[03:41:44] this guy. I watch his shit all the time. I've become a huge fucking fan of his channel because
[03:41:50] He will just have people on and he will just let them talk.
[03:41:55] He won't ask dumb fucking questions.
[03:41:57] I don't know anything about him at all.
[03:41:59] I have no, I have no knowledge.
[03:42:04] I have no knowledge of his worldview and I don't need to know.
[03:42:07] Okay?
[03:42:08] I don't need to know.
[03:42:09] I've watched almost all of his videos except for, you know, like Scott Ritter and stuff.
[03:42:14] like the reason why it's great is because I don't need to know what his worldview is.
[03:42:21] It's not about him. Don't incorporate your fucking silly opinions into this conversation.
[03:42:29] And I'm not even kidding. I've actually learned from that. Okay. I've actually learned from
[03:42:35] that, bro. Stop calling Trita a goat. He might be a good analyst, but he's not a good person.
[03:42:40] Why is he is are you gonna say he's pro IRGC? Is that what it is? Are you one of those guys? I mean, he's a he's a good guy
[03:42:47] I don't think he's a bad guy at all
[03:42:50] I've been following his stuff for a very long time
[03:42:54] But I've learned from Glenn and even from Chris Hedges as well who I also
[03:43:01] Love his analysis in in general
[03:43:05] I've learned from them. I've learned to like just ask questions and let them
[03:43:10] Let them steal the show
[03:43:15] Like if you noticed and I'm sure some of you have noticed this I
[03:43:20] Stopped asking like super long-winded questions or or you know, let my opinion be heard when I do these kinds of
[03:43:28] When I do these kinds of interviews with people like Tritta and and all these other people my interviewing skills have improved
[03:43:34] It's because I just don't fucking talk as much. I
[03:43:37] I realize that it's, you know, I thought you finally started listening to us.
[03:43:43] I would never listen to you in a million fucking years, chatter.
[03:43:47] Are you out of your mind?
[03:43:48] Are you insane?
[03:43:52] Are you out of your fucking mind, especially because even now, when I ask like a question
[03:43:58] that's a little bit long, when I ask a question that's even a little bit long, everybody starts
[03:44:05] going. We've been saying this for years, bro. I don't care. Even if you were right, I don't
[03:44:23] care. You framed the question. Well, because the sun does have a world view. Yeah. I mean,
[03:44:32] obviously I'll still do it. Can I be honest, you still interrupt sometimes and it just
[03:44:41] turns into a conversation instead where you go back and forth. It's okay. It's okay.
[03:44:57] That's not like a goat there because you guys do sound like you're you're yelping goats sometimes
[03:45:05] Anyway, speaking of the goat, let's get back to Mershimer
[03:45:08] He doesn't even have to do that
[03:45:09] Beijing is putting pressure on the moolest and it put pressure on pakistan
[03:45:14] There's no question about that
[03:45:16] But the fact is the uranians are not going to give in to the chinese anymore than they're going to give in to the americans
[03:45:21] The Iranians face an existential threat. They don't have many friends in the world, and they're not going to let the Chinese pressure them into a situation where they're at a disadvantage. These are the two genocidal that treat it told me that that wasn't the case, by the way.
[03:45:37] So there's actually a disagreement here. I don't know if they'll advance that or not. But I asked this exact same question to treat it.
[03:45:46] If you guys recall or I said, do you think that the Chinese are applying pressure to Iran?
[03:45:51] And do you think Iran will listen to the pressure by the Chinese and
[03:45:56] Trita said I don't think that the Chinese are applying pressure to Iran
[03:46:00] I think they're staying out of it the series one known as Israel and the other known as the United States
[03:46:06] Just not gonna let that happen
[03:46:08] Whatever you have something
[03:46:11] Yep, I
[03:46:13] I think it's also important to note that the relationship between Iran and China is not
[03:46:17] one in which the Chinese easily or happily would put pressure, that they would have their
[03:46:23] negotiations with Iranians and try to get something, but not using the type of coercive
[03:46:28] approach it now unfortunately has become standard for the United States.
[03:46:33] What is happening right now is that the Iranians are building and reopening a bunch of different
[03:46:38] landlines through Pakistan and other countries who sent Malaysia to reach China.
[03:46:42] And this is done in collaboration with the Chinese.
[03:46:44] The Chinese announced just yesterday that they're not going to accept any intermission,
[03:46:48] any interdiction by American ships in the Indian Ocean of Chinese ships carrying Iranian
[03:46:54] oil, which is a much harsher pushback from the Chinese on this than we've ever seen before,
[03:47:02] where the US actually had on a couple of occasions taken tankers that were.
[03:47:07] Imagine scoring a three-way interview with Mershamer and Trita, choosing parts of the
[03:47:10] Caribbean score intros and on them and then immediately asking if China secretly likes
[03:47:15] this war. Yeah.
[03:47:16] Carrying on that the Chinese already had purchased.
[03:47:21] That's not important. I dreamed about merch. I'm a changing opinion on the USSR and on
[03:47:25] Marxism, Leninism. When I woke up, I thought it was a YouTube video and tried to put it
[03:47:29] back on and increase the volume on my phone. When I realized what happened, I closed my
[03:47:33] eyes, laid down and envisioned myself pressing a big play button on my phone. And the dream
[03:47:36] continued. You need to share this with the world. Thank you. Cucumber skin harvest there.
[03:47:40] What an insane thing to reveal to this chat. I emailed him for you. Hello as a fan of Isan
[03:47:48] Hasanayi Piker who is one of the biggest and most vocal fans of the merch. I am reaching
[03:47:52] out in hopes of aiding in uniting these two Titans. Isanas endlessly expresses admiration
[03:47:57] for Professor Merchammer, and says he dreams of having his goat on his broadcast. Thank
[03:48:01] you for your attention to this matter. A concerned fan. He's never going to come on
[03:48:08] Oh, fucking cook dude. It's what a ridiculous
[03:48:16] What a ridiculous situation I'm never meeting him now
[03:48:24] What have you done man
[03:48:26] So I think you're seeing a toughening position by the Chinese visa v the US and behind the scenes
[03:48:31] I'm sure they're having some tough conversations with the audience
[03:48:34] But that one is nevertheless more collaborative and kind of solutions-oriented than what we saw from the Chinese
[03:48:41] Just pushing straight back against any idea that the US would be able to take any of their ships and yet meanwhile
[03:48:47] Treater it's been reported that Tehran's put forward this three-phase proposal. You've called it a grand bargain
[03:48:55] Tell us more
[03:48:57] So this is a proposal that has been reported in a couple of outlets some elements of it
[03:49:01] I and I also mentioned in my subsack post, I didn't find entirely convincing. So, um,
[03:49:06] I don't think the entire package is necessarily accurate, but I think it probably carries
[03:49:10] the contours of what the Iranians have put forward. It would be a three phase proposal.
[03:49:16] What was really striking. First of all, it is that the Iranians really are looking for
[03:49:20] not an end to the hostilities, not an end to not just a C exotic blue-eyed blonde. Don't
[03:49:26] worry, Hossie. I'll just send him a titty pick to make up for that crazy message. Do
[03:49:31] Do not do any of this.
[03:49:35] Oh my God.
[03:49:37] Stop.
[03:49:38] It's not even an end to what they're looking for and to the U.S. Iran conflict of 47 years.
[03:49:46] What the hell is wrong with all of you looking to make sure that there is not only a nonaggression
[03:49:51] packed but also something that is embodied in international mechanisms to ensure that
[03:49:56] the war doesn't restart, which suggests that this have to be the goat.
[03:50:00] Mersheimer is happily married to his wife
[03:50:04] He codified at a minute madam professor Mersheimer
[03:50:07] I mean a UN Security Council resolution and that they want the Chinese and the Russians to be guarantors of it
[03:50:13] When you look at the language that I was released
[03:50:16] Interestingly enough they're putting an end to the war at the very first phase
[03:50:21] The reason I thought that was interesting is because if that happens
[03:50:25] Then in the next phase when they're supposed to negotiate the nuclear deal the audience don't have that much leverage
[03:50:30] they have the nuclear assets. But we've seen that the nuclear assets are no longer sufficient
[03:50:35] to compel the US to give any major concessions to the Iranians. So I suspect that the reason
[03:50:41] why they put that in the first part is potentially because it's a concession to the Chinese and
[03:50:45] Asian countries, trying to essentially make sure that they get the straight open, etc. first so
[03:50:52] that these countries will not suffer economically before they go to the nuclear talks, even though
[03:50:57] it actually reverses things from the standpoint of where Iran would have the greatest amount of
[03:51:02] leverage. And the last phase would be, if all of this works out, that there would be a new
[03:51:07] security architecture set up for the Persian Gulf, which is a long-standing Iranian position
[03:51:12] already back in Resolution 598 that ended the Iraq-Iran War. The Iranians interjected, I think,
[03:51:18] the second to last paragraph about that, and that it would actually be done under the auspices of the
[03:51:23] P5. What about what about the uranium enrichment though? So on the uranium
[03:51:28] enrichment, that's the part that I found most unconvincing. For instance, it said
[03:51:33] that it would be either down blending or giving up to 60%. I think giving up to
[03:51:40] 60% is probably unlikely. Down blending is what it was supposed to happen in the
[03:51:43] Geneva proposal that Trump didn't accept, even though he should have. They're
[03:51:48] saying a moratorium of enrichment for 15 years, I find that unlikely. I can see a scenario
[03:51:55] in the Geneva proposal. The Iranians, essentially, together with the Omanis, agreed on this idea
[03:52:01] that they would only enrich uranium for specific needs.
[03:52:05] How do you think the China meeting goes? Like, what are the outcomes of your assessment?
[03:52:08] I don't think the China meeting happens. I might be wrong about this, but if Donald
[03:52:12] Trump goes to China right now, he's fucked with the way that the situation has unfolded,
[03:52:21] especially when he did this hasty military operation again, where he's escalating against
[03:52:26] Iran and Iran is escalating following America up the escalation ladder.
[03:52:31] This is an unbelievably bad scenario for the United States of America in the Beijing summit.
[03:52:39] I don't think that it's going to happen. It's, it's 10 days. Yeah.
[03:52:43] Trump has 10 more days until a scheduled visit to Beijing.
[03:52:45] It's supposed to happen in 10 days on May 14th.
[03:52:48] He could either cancel the visit for a second time,
[03:52:52] which would make it seem like he's completely lost control over the situation.
[03:52:55] And really, as I talked to Tritta as well about this,
[03:52:59] really frustrate the Chinese because remember they already hit,
[03:53:05] they, they were supposed to do this.
[03:53:07] And they already hit an extension on it. Okay, so he can't even like he can't even cancel twice
[03:53:14] Because it's it's a really fucking bad situation
[03:53:18] If he pisses off the Chinese one more time, I I mean they're they're
[03:53:24] They're always in favor of stability, but it's a
[03:53:28] It's an admission that America has has lost control over the Shredda Hormuz. I
[03:53:32] I just, I don't even know what the fuck he's, he's planning on doing here.
[03:53:39] Um, it will make it seem like he has completely lost control of the situation or arrive and
[03:53:45] be subject to a situation where he is pressured over the continued closure of the state, which
[03:53:49] will wind up becoming the dominating issue in the talks alongside Taiwan.
[03:53:57] Trump now would want to turn the Iran page as quickly as possible, said Wu Shimbo, a
[03:54:02] foreign policy advisory committee member of the Chinese foreign ministry.
[03:54:05] If the U.S. had gained an upper hand, Trump would have much stronger leverage.
[03:54:09] This is what I said as well, if you recall, for the past month or so.
[03:54:13] But now it's clear the U.S. simply couldn't handle Iran.
[03:54:15] So in a sense, when it comes to negotiations with China, its relative bargaining position
[03:54:18] has been weakened.
[03:54:20] Yes.
[03:54:21] Trump wanted to go into China with two cards in his hand, Venezuela and Iran.
[03:54:27] Okay, this would have given Donald Trump tremendous leverage over the negotiations with Beijing.
[03:54:35] It didn't happen. It happened in Venezuela with relative ease, but it didn't happen in
[03:54:39] Iran at all because Iran was like, fuck off, we're fighting back.
[03:54:47] And the thing is, Venezuela and Iran packed up would give Trump leverage, right? But it
[03:54:54] still would not have even the playing field against China. Okay? There's also that as
[03:55:02] well. Venezuela also turned out to be a nothing burger, nothing changed. No, it's a, what are
[03:55:06] you talking about? No, it's a huge ordeal. No, you're so wrong about this. Venezuela
[03:55:13] was China's entry point into Latin America. Venezuela is a huge deal. We're like, you
[03:55:19] mean nothing changes in like Delcey Rodriguez is in charge. Who gives a fuck? It doesn't
[03:55:24] matter. Delcey Rodriguez is now a loyal and reliable asset to American interests. So that
[03:55:31] is a tremendous amount of leverage that, I mean, it's not a tremendous amount of leverage
[03:55:37] necessarily over China, but like it gives an upper hand to the United States of America.
[03:55:42] It's a card that the United States of America now holds over the, the, the Chinese meant
[03:55:49] for the Venezuelans in general. Yeah, that doesn't matter. We're talking about states
[03:55:53] negotiating with one another. We're talking about diplomacy. The little guy is not even
[03:55:59] secondary in this conversation. Like the ordinary Venezuelans and their experiences have never
[03:56:04] been a part of this calculation from America's perspective. America doesn't give a shit about
[03:56:09] that. This is the exact same thing that I tried to explain with Ukraine, right? America has
[03:56:15] never given a shit about what happens to average Ukrainians. It's more so state versus
[03:56:21] state maneuvering here. Whenever I say this, by the way, whenever I say this, people get very
[03:56:28] frustrated. I've said this in the past about Ukraine and people have gotten really upset
[03:56:32] with me for saying this. It's up to you to believe whether or not America is actually invested in
[03:56:37] the liberation of Ukraine, but America is not invested in the liberation of Ukraine,
[03:56:42] as America has made it very clear, right? What's your evidence for Delcy being a U.S. asset?
[03:56:47] genuinely asking, I don't know, her statements that she has released in the aftermath of the
[03:56:53] attempted White House correspondent's dinner assassination could give you an immediate inclination
[03:56:58] into where she stands. I know that a lot of people want to act as though she's totally
[03:57:06] independent here, but that's not the case. Yeah, she's not sending oil to Cuba, for example.
[03:57:17] Venezuela had a relationship with Russia. Venezuela had a relationship with China.
[03:57:32] Venezuela is not sending oil to Israel. Like, what are we talking about? Venezuela is not
[03:57:39] only sending oil to Israel, but also all the oil revenues are going through the American
[03:57:45] Treasury. You know that, right?
[03:57:49] Oh, offshore out of treasury reach.
[03:58:14] Okay. Last I heard Russia had a tanker on the way to Cuba. What happened? Oh, they did. Cuba is receiving oil from Russia, or at least receive one oil tanker so far. Not sure if they've received more.
[03:58:35] more. Does that mean US is cooking the books? US is taking a percentage of all the oil revenues
[03:58:44] of Venezuela right now. Like they are currently doing that. That is what's going on. That's why
[03:58:49] Chris Wright was in Venezuela recently. So yes, Venezuela is now a total vassal to US interests.
[03:58:58] They also seized a bunch of Venezuelan gold as well in a way that, in a matter not this similar to
[03:59:05] in a manner not dissimilar to Iraq when we invaded Iraq. They're doing the exact same
[03:59:12] thing to Venezuela except it was a much cleaner operation in comparison to a permanent military
[03:59:16] occupation of Iraq for like fucking 12 plus years. So that's what's going on.
[03:59:24] Venezuelan oil will be refined in Venezuelan refineries that were previously owned and
[03:59:29] operated by American corporations, as was the case before the nationalization initiatives.
[03:59:36] It is basically, yeah, so much for the Bolivarian Revolution sad to see.
[03:59:40] Oh no, they have, they have wound back many of the gains in terms of autonomy that the
[03:59:47] Bolivarian Revolution had.
[03:59:56] We did that.
[04:00:00] And that's a big deal.
[04:00:01] That is leverage over China.
[04:00:03] Now China might not think that it's like that's significant.
[04:00:07] Clearly they don't.
[04:00:08] Clearly they don't consider that to be that important.
[04:00:12] But if they had gone in with control over the strait, eliminating Iran or having a
[04:00:17] applying puppet regime control Iran in a way that's not dissimilar to Venezuela,
[04:00:27] that would be consequential for sure. Because China's energy needs are met through the
[04:00:34] straight of hormones. Sure, they get a lot of their energy needs from Russia as well,
[04:00:38] but a big chunk of that still comes from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates,
[04:00:42] and a smaller percentage of that up to 10% comes from Iran. 10% of Chinese oil and gas is coming
[04:00:50] from Iran. Meanwhile, that's like upwards of 80% of all of the oil and gas that Iran sells. So Iran
[04:00:59] is in a position where they are greatly invested in not pissing off China. Whereas for China,
[04:01:12] I mean, 10% is still pretty significant, but the, the much more significant aspect of this
[04:01:17] relationship is, uh, if, if Iran was no longer sovereign and, and had a, a puppet state, uh,
[04:01:26] in charge of Iran, uh, that there would no longer be any sort of, like the America could
[04:01:32] basically control the straight of hormones. Okay. That's a huge deal for China. Now, I
[04:01:40] I don't think America would piss off China, regardless.
[04:01:43] Like that's why I'm saying America would have leverage in this negotiations process against China,
[04:01:48] because China has export controls that they can deploy on the United States of America
[04:01:53] and render its entire national security and its entire industry ineffective.
[04:01:59] Okay? If China could, like, if you go to the table with China,
[04:02:03] If you go to the table with China and you have Iran and Venezuela, then you can at least
[04:02:16] threaten China back when China says, hey, we might do export controls if you do something
[04:02:21] silly, right?
[04:02:25] But given the Shreddhormu's part of that bargain failed spectacularly and it failed in a way
[04:02:33] where uh... america basically showed its ass
[04:02:37] this uh... i mean i don't even think the summit will happen and only two
[04:02:41] needs were identified we can have a door we don't care about pissing off china
[04:02:44] son all my god this guy still here what do you mean even playing field china
[04:02:48] china never use anything to their leverage so
[04:02:51] why do you think this meeting will be influential if anything we're running
[04:02:53] all over them constantly bro all
[04:02:56] all my god gangies back
[04:03:00] all god
[04:03:02] He's still here, man. Trey is still fucking here.
[04:03:06] Comparing Venezuela to China is a take. Wait, are you talking to me?
[04:03:15] Oh, you're talking to this guy?
[04:03:19] Yeah.
[04:03:24] Chatter is talking to me via a phone or a laptop that was literally built and
[04:03:31] manufactured entirely in China, okay? Utilizing the internet, which has wires that were also
[04:03:39] most likely manufactured in China that were laid down on the ground. And he's over here
[04:03:45] thinking like, oh dude, China doesn't have any fucking leverage over the United States
[04:03:48] of America. You don't own anything that doesn't touch Chinese hands, okay? There's not a single
[04:03:56] fucking thing that you own that doesn't go through China. China is the manufacturing base of the
[04:04:03] entire planet. Do you not understand how impossible that is for America to just like have a relationship
[04:04:13] with China where where China doesn't have tremendous leverage over America?
[04:04:20] China has a monopoly on the procurement and refinement of all rare earth minerals,
[04:04:25] including magnets that are necessary for american missile production
[04:04:33] why the fuck do you think trump is going to beijing if it's so if america's in such a
[04:04:39] tremendous position of leather a tremendous position of power over china an american company
[04:04:44] though big bro and they never use their levers though that's what i'm saying an american company
[04:04:48] an american company is meaningless if china says we're gonna do export controls then all american
[04:04:53] companies perish overnight. What are you talking about?
[04:05:06] Our saving grace in this circumstance is that China is invested in maintaining the current
[04:05:15] system. God, this fucking jacket. Take off. You know how Iran has been able to utilize
[04:05:28] the complex network that we have designed around the globe, like global capitalism?
[04:05:34] You know how like Iran has been able to to use that as a way to to create a
[04:05:45] Shit ton of problems for America China can do the same as well without actually firing a single rocket mind you
[04:05:54] This shit goes both ways it ain't just China having power over us, bro. Yes, you're just coping
[04:06:04] In the global design that we have under the current system of international trade, China
[04:06:12] has unbelievable leverage over the United States of America, okay?
[04:06:20] And we're not even talking about like American debt that China owns or whatever.
[04:06:24] We're just talking straight up.
[04:06:26] If China decided to stop, you actually think China beats us in every subject.
[04:06:33] that shit, man. Oh my God. This is Mr contingency. Hey, remember, we, you know, we have access
[04:06:45] to your old statements, right? Remember when you were like, Oh, America's gonna pack this
[04:06:49] shit up, dude. America's gonna pack this shit up. It's been fucking months. Why hasn't America
[04:06:54] packed this shit up? I thought America was this massive fucking superpower capable of
[04:06:59] packing this shit up. Why are you professionally wrong all the time? And at no point do you
[04:07:10] go, hey man, maybe I was fucking wrong actually, maybe you were right. See, they do what the
[04:07:20] fuck are we steady bombing Tehran daily? Answer the question on why we're bombing Tehran
[04:07:23] daily with no air superiority. This is before they dropped the F-15. How do you sit here
[04:07:30] and listen to Iran's lies like this? You make the point that you're coping, my boy.
[04:07:34] The media will not talk about successes. Also, an air campaign takes time, gang. 312, 2026.
[04:07:42] Kurds have invaded Iran. 3, 4, 2026. 3, 3, 2026. Breaking the United States and Israel
[04:07:51] seeking the form for men that armed uprising. I support you, but you keep saying for Israel
[04:07:56] and the U S been wanting to bomb Iran since 1979. This is fake bro. No revenge bro. Links
[04:08:03] to the RGC was found bro. You're really trying to spin this is if Iran is winning 3 3 20 26.
[04:08:13] Here we are, dude, a month later.
[04:08:23] Do you think it's going the way America wanted it?
[04:08:26] Because Trump is a dumbass, goofy, he ain't letting the military go to work.
[04:08:31] Oh, Trump is a dumbass, goofy, who's not letting the, he's shackling the military.
[04:08:37] That's what it is.
[04:08:40] That's really interesting, because, you know, that I thought Pete Hegzeth was saying no
[04:08:45] holds barred, right?
[04:08:47] No more woke wars.
[04:08:48] We're going to do anti-woke wars.
[04:08:49] We're going to say slurs while we're bombing.
[04:08:52] What was this about?
[04:08:54] I will come in here and apologize if that happens.
[04:08:56] I will also come in here and laugh in your face if the regime falls.
[04:08:59] Yeah.
[04:09:00] Hey, remember when you said you would laugh in my face when the regime falls?
[04:09:05] What's up?
[04:09:08] aren't you apologizing? What's up, dude? It turns out it's only two months big bro.
[04:09:25] Give it time. Oh Jesus Christ, dude. Oh my God. Okay, the TRR reactor that is producing
[04:09:34] medical isotopes, and a new reactor doesn't even go online for another seven years.
[04:09:39] Now the TR already has fuel pads that last for another five to seven years, so in essence
[04:09:44] the Iranians would not have a need for enrichment for five to seven years, and that's how they
[04:09:49] would get around the idea of them not enriching.
[04:09:51] It wouldn't be a moratorium, it would be on a needs basis.
[04:09:55] Could you extend that to 15?
[04:09:56] You could.
[04:09:57] You could downblend the 60% and immediately turn it into fuel pads for the TR, or you
[04:10:02] could have Russia or France provide these fuel pads up front so that the Iranians have guaranteed
[04:10:08] energy or fuel pads for these reactors for another 50. So there's some elements that there are
[04:10:12] possible to do, but the idea that it would be a moratorium or that they would give up
[04:10:20] the entire 60%, I find unlikely. Okay, so it's still a bit murky, but we're talking about possibly
[04:10:25] a 15-year enrichment freeze, a guarantee to a non-return to war, compensation clauses,
[04:10:32] a new regional architecture, which presumably means from Iran's perspective America restraining
[04:10:37] Israel. John, can you imagine Washington signing up to those terms as Trita has put forward?
[04:10:44] No. I mean, I had a somewhat different view than Trita did on the nuclear issue, and I'd be curious
[04:10:51] what he had to say. And let me just preface what I'm going to say by noting that it's not clear
[04:10:58] exactly what the agreement looks like. To some extent, it's like reading tea leaves to try and
[04:11:04] figure out what this new Iranian proposal is. But I interpreted it to say, which is pretty much
[04:11:11] consistent with what Trita said, that in the first 38 period, we actually implement the ceasefire.
[04:11:18] It's important to emphasize there is no ceasefire now. There's a pause. To get a ceasefire,
[04:11:24] you need to stop the fighting in Lebanon and you need to open the straight. That was the original
[04:11:29] deal. So in the first 30 days, you'll end the fighting in Lebanon. Good luck on that. And two,
[04:11:37] you'll open the straight and then you'll have the ceasefire for 30 days. Then you go to the next phase
[04:11:42] and as Trita said, this is where you set in motion some sort of scheme where Iran is guaranteed
[04:11:51] that the war will not start up, whether it's Security Council resolution or whatever. But that's
[04:11:57] in the second phase. And as I read the second phase as well, Trita, they were also talking about
[04:12:02] ending sanctions, reparations, some sort of resolution of what American bases in the Gulf
[04:12:09] would look like efforts. This is in the second phase. Then in the third phase, they deal with the
[04:12:16] nuclear issue. Now, that I think that story I tell is consistent for the most part with what
[04:12:22] Trita says, but where I disagree with Trita, and again, I'd be curious to know what he thinks,
[04:12:27] and you think, Tom, I think that the Americans lose all their leverage if you put the nuclear issue
[04:12:36] to the end. That's how I thought about it when I read it. Because once you say no more war,
[04:12:43] which you get in the second phase, and once you say no more blockade, which you get in the first
[04:12:49] phase, where's the American leverage on Iran? Yeah, where is the American leverage on Iran if
[04:12:57] you kick the candy on the right on nuclear enrichment? Trita. So I think I differ there a
[04:13:04] a little bit. I think it's a great question. Let me, let me ask you how I see it. If you
[04:13:08] go to that scenario, then you're essentially in the scenario prior to the war beginning.
[04:13:14] So we're back in February 27th with the exception that the Iranians have some sort of a guarantee
[04:13:21] to the degree that they had trusted that the U.S. is not going to attack them. What we
[04:13:25] saw in the period after Trump bombed Iran's nuclear facilities is that the Iranians just
[04:13:32] didn't have the nuclear assets to pressure the US to come back to the table and negotiate.
[04:13:40] They weren't doing any enrichment.
[04:13:42] They didn't have access to their 60%.
[04:13:45] They know that it's somewhere on the ground, but you know, being able to access it is a
[04:13:49] different story.
[04:13:50] So their nuclear dossier was just not what it used to be when they were running 20,000
[04:13:57] centrifuge and were amassing L.E.U. and 60% enriched uranium.
[04:14:01] That's the kind of stuff that really worried people in Washington and provided Iranians
[04:14:05] would leverage.
[04:14:06] None of that is happening right now.
[04:14:08] So you take away the war pressure and it's not to say that the pressure of the war doesn't
[04:14:13] pressure Iran as well, but it is risking to-
[04:14:16] Trump had a better deal than the JCPOA just before they bombed Iran.
[04:14:19] Kushner and Wiccav were too dumb to understand it.
[04:14:23] I don't know if they were too dumb to understand it or if their goal was to not understand
[04:14:29] it, if that makes sense. But now they have a objectively way worse deal to destroy Trump's
[04:14:47] presidency with gas prices going up and all of the economic crisis that it's causing. Whereas
[04:14:52] the Iranians, despite the fact that they're in a very tight situation, there's no world where
[04:14:56] you enter a conflict and your opposition has more leverage in the aftermath of that conflict
[04:15:01] and you can just turn around and be like, see, we secured a W here. It just doesn't work
[04:15:05] that way. It doesn't work that way at all.
[04:15:12] I already used to a tremendous amount of sanctions and have plenty of different workarounds from
[04:15:17] it. And frankly, during the war, we're selling more oil than they were prior to the war and
[04:15:21] making more money off of it.
[04:15:23] When you think of a movement of global disarmament, this violence feels stupid.
[04:15:30] Oh, that seems like a great idea, man.
[04:15:36] Yeah, you know what? I'm going to pitch that to Mersheimer,
[04:15:40] see what he thinks about it with his offensive realism, international relations perspective.
[04:15:46] If I ever get to talk to him in person, that will be my suggestion. I'll be like,
[04:15:52] Professor Meersheimer, what do you think about a global disarmament movement?
[04:15:57] All this war seems so unnecessary. That would be the equivalent of me asking
[04:16:03] Jeffrey Sachs if there's anything that would cause him to second-guess whether
[04:16:07] or not markets are actually totally out of whack and that the markets are not
[04:16:16] actually pegged to any sort of fucking fundamentals whatsoever, but instead
[04:16:21] totally totally reacting in an irrational way bro just go audit his
[04:16:29] class no so that's why I conclude that that if they give up all of that and
[04:16:37] they're just relying on their nuclear assets which at this point are very
[04:16:40] limited they will have lost a significant amount of leverage you know
[04:16:44] you to disagree on these issues what do you think about Superman just picking up
[04:16:47] everyone's nukes and throwing them into the sun, would this be good?
[04:16:53] Seems like that would be a good option.
[04:16:55] Yes. Cheers.
[04:16:56] But there's another school of thought that John mentioned earlier,
[04:16:58] the Wall Street Journal, the hawkish school of thought,
[04:17:01] the supporters of the war who would disagree with both of you here.
[04:17:05] And they'd say that time is on Donald Trump's side,
[04:17:08] that the naval blockade is working.
[04:17:11] And I just want to run a few things by you, John, then get treated.
[04:17:13] Reaction. Here's the IMF forecast.
[04:17:16] a 6.1% contraction in Iran's gross domestic product this year. Iran has already lost some
[04:17:25] 40% of its GDP in two months. Year on year inflation is running at nearly 70%. Of course,
[04:17:33] that's prices for food staples and healthcare rising even faster. And then you've got President
[04:17:40] Trump here saying that Iran's regime is choking like a stuffed pig and it's going to be worse of them.
[04:17:46] So isn't it fair to assume that the blockade will bring them all as to heal and force him to accept Washington's conditions? John?
[04:17:55] No, I mean
[04:17:57] all depends on how you think about
[04:18:01] Modern nation states ability to absorb punishment
[04:18:05] There is no question that the Iranians are being seriously punished
[04:18:10] But they're not going to throw their hands up
[04:18:12] They're facing an existential threat from two genocidal states.
[04:18:18] And let's be very clear about this.
[04:18:19] President Trump has already said quite clearly that he has countenanced ending Iranian civilization
[04:18:28] as we know it, and ending it so completely that it can never come back from the dead.
[04:18:33] Furthermore, Israel and the United States, given their actions and genocide, have demonstrated
[04:18:40] they have no problem when it comes to mass murder of Muslims. And given what's happened to Iran
[04:18:47] for years on end now, they fully understand what they're up against. So the point is you'll eat
[04:18:53] grass if you have to to survive in the face of a threat like this. So you could talk all you want
[04:18:59] about what's happened to their GDP and what's happened to this economic indicator and so forth
[04:19:05] and so on, but they're not going to surrender because they'd be crazy to surrender.
[04:19:09] Yeah. Trita, what about the foreign fighters hired to control the streets? I mean, if those
[04:19:14] Islamist militias are not paid, I mean, they might pack up and go home. Their payments are now
[04:19:20] surely at risk thanks to the oil embargo and the naval blockade.
[04:19:25] Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Which foreign fighters are you referring to?
[04:19:28] Well, just the foreign fighters that Iran's employed to keep calm on the street to, you know,
[04:19:34] quail dissents. I mean, and punish those who have been these
[04:19:39] are Arabs, not Persians, but that's that's what's been
[04:19:42] reported.
[04:19:43] No, that's not true. So you have the besiege, which are the
[04:19:48] paramilitary group that the regime set up itself.
[04:19:50] This guy is fucking crazy.
[04:19:52] Significantly, you know, playing that role. There's always
[04:19:56] rumors that are being spread by the Aspera elements that those
[04:19:59] are actually not Iranians. It's
[04:20:00] utterly clear that they are Iranians. They are really
[04:20:02] I mean every time there's a protest because of some sort of desire to believe that the Iranians will never do this to each other
[04:20:08] They're saying that all the regime is importing Lebanese or Iraqis etc
[04:20:13] I've seen no evidence at least of this happening on any scale that it is
[04:20:19] meaningful
[04:20:20] Just if you take a look what's happening inside of Iran right now ever since the war started these
[04:20:26] Hardcore supporters of the government themselves, which is roughly 15 to 20 percent of the population
[04:20:32] population have been owning the streets and it's been a deliberate strategy.
[04:20:36] And I've kind of reasserted their control.
[04:20:39] And I think it's important to understand money or no money, these people essentially see
[04:20:43] their faith intertwined with the Islamic Republic.
[04:20:47] They will go under if the Islamic Republic goes under.
[04:20:51] And given how undemocratic some of the elements of the oppositions also are, such as the son
[04:20:57] of the Shah, they should be worried about their own future if there ever was a scenario
[04:21:01] which I find completely unlikely that he ever were to come back. But so, but, but going
[04:21:06] back to what the numbers you put forward, those are probably completely accurate numbers.
[04:21:11] Yeah.
[04:21:12] So that was the next one.
[04:21:13] Massive contraction.
[04:21:14] I just have to say here.
[04:21:15] I've reflected this in the branding economy, shortages of food and water.
[04:21:20] Definitely. I wouldn't be surprised if any of those are false and problems going to get
[04:21:24] worse. That's never been the question. This is constantly the issue in Washington in which
[04:21:31] the degree of pain is the measurement of success.
[04:21:35] The measurement of success is if you ever
[04:21:37] manage to translate that pain into a change of policy.
[04:21:40] And just as John said, it never will
[04:21:43] when they view this as existential,
[04:21:45] in which that means that capitalization is not an option.
[04:21:49] Now, take a look on the flip side of it.
[04:21:51] It is not that they're not hurting.
[04:21:53] The question is, who can tolerate
[04:21:55] to hurt the pain the longest and the most intensely?
[04:21:59] Donald Trump is now dealing with gas prices in the US that are higher than they were when
[04:22:04] the war actually was taking place as a result of his own blockade.
[04:22:09] Had he not done the blockade and it had just been a ceasefire, the Iranians would control
[04:22:13] the straits which would not be a good thing from Trump's perspective.
[04:22:17] But traffic would actually flow because the Iranians don't make money unless they allow
[04:22:21] the ships to come through with the payment of the toll.
[04:22:24] And many countries would at the end of the day pay the toll.
[04:22:26] They would be happy to pay the toll in order to avoid the current situation and the toll
[04:22:30] is not going to be that high.
[04:22:32] It doesn't mean that they will accept it in the long run or that they don't think it's
[04:22:35] a problem setting a bad precedent.
[04:22:37] Let's set that aside.
[04:22:38] But money would, oil would flow which means gas prices, oil prices would come down.
[04:22:43] He could have had that scenario instead.
[04:22:46] The foundation for defense of the democracies is one of these very pro-Israeli groups in
[04:22:50] Washington pushed the idea that the blockade would be some sort of a silver bullet that
[04:22:55] that would force the Iranians to lose capacity
[04:22:58] in terms of their storage,
[04:22:59] which would then cause the oil wells to be shut down,
[04:23:02] which would be tremendously expansive
[04:23:04] and this would have all kinds of inflationary pressures
[04:23:07] in Iran and eventually they would collapse.
[04:23:09] According to their estimation,
[04:23:11] the Iranians should have collapsed about nine days ago.
[04:23:13] It's not happened.
[04:23:15] In fact, satellite images show that they're still loading oil
[04:23:18] onto new tankers.
[04:23:20] So the idea that the storage is out, et cetera.
[04:23:22] So instead, he took a measure that now has shifted oil prices or pushed up oil prices
[04:23:29] above where they were when the war was going on.
[04:23:31] So all of the pressure release that he gained through this ceasefire, he's now gambled away
[04:23:37] with this blockade.
[04:23:40] Trita mentioned the Defense of Democracies Foundation, John.
[04:23:45] You're well aware of them.
[04:23:46] You think of the other prominent supporters of the war.
[04:23:48] mentioned the Wall Street Journal editorial page a few moments ago, commentary magazine
[04:23:53] Brett Stevens, past guest on this program. They say that Trump still has time on his
[04:23:58] side and you know the US economy just last week we had the GDP figures.
[04:24:02] Doug, you already asked that question.
[04:24:05] Oh my God.
[04:24:15] Is he going to repeat the same question again?
[04:24:19] It's obvious that the time is not on the side of America on this. It's on the side of Iran.
[04:24:25] showing 2% annual growth for the last quarter.
[04:24:30] The US stock market remains surprisingly bullish.
[04:24:33] So they say to you, why can't Trump simply write out this storm?
[04:24:38] John.
[04:24:39] Well, oil prices, food prices and the sorted other prices really matter enormously here.
[04:24:48] And inflation is picking up ahead of steam.
[04:24:52] And what you're going to have eventually in the West is stagflation because you're going to have to raise interest rates to deal with inflation.
[04:25:03] And when you raise interest rates, you're going to slow down growth.
[04:25:07] And you want to remember that the economic consequences of the February 28 decision are just beginning to bite now.
[04:25:17] They're cascading their way through the system.
[04:25:20] And if you listen to people in Europe talk about the future of fuel prices for aircraft and so forth and so on, you listen to the British talk about servicing their debt.
[04:25:33] There is big trouble coming and everybody knows that in the Asian economies have already felt that as you know as an Australian.
[04:25:41] So this is only going to get worse with the passage of time. And that's why Trump wants to end this as quickly as possible.
[04:25:48] But the key question is whether the Iranians are going to throw up their hands.
[04:25:53] That's what President Trump, the Wall Street Journal, and others are betting on.
[04:25:58] That's going to happen. And I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that's not going to happen.
[04:26:03] And I'd like them to show me a historical example involving a war of this sort,
[04:26:09] where massive punishment was inflicted on a society, and the leadership then threw up its hands.
[04:26:16] You just don't find any evidence of that.
[04:26:20] Can I just add one other thing, Tom, as well, which I think is really important.
[04:26:24] The two clocks ticking right now is not whether the US economy is going to collapse before
[04:26:30] the Iranian economy collapses.
[04:26:32] That's not what we're talking about here.
[04:26:34] It's whether the economic pain in the US is going to translate into a political crisis
[04:26:40] for Trump.
[04:26:42] to always consider that I bring up all the time is the Palestinians, for example, can
[04:26:49] withstand a lot more pain and punishment as opposed to like regular Israeli society.
[04:26:55] And the same thing goes between the United States of America and Iran.
[04:27:00] The Iranian economy has already had to exist outside of the global marketplaces because
[04:27:05] of America sanctions regime.
[04:27:08] So their regular day-to-day existence, even before this war, was much more resilient than
[04:27:17] the Americans are.
[04:27:19] Americans are used to never having any inflationary shocks.
[04:27:29] So for that reason, the Iranian runway is a lot longer than the American one.
[04:27:35] Before the economic crisis in Iran creates a political crisis for the current government over there
[04:27:41] And and when you look at it that way you see very clearly
[04:27:45] That Trump is going to face problems much much sooner than the Iranians will and that's what's all that matters because he has midterms coming up
[04:27:52] Republican members of Congress is getting more and more angry that he's not ending this war
[04:27:57] They're going to lose their seats and many of them have already we have a record number of Republicans more than ever before
[04:28:03] before or not even also should also brought this up but the stakes are much
[04:28:16] higher from for Iran Iran doesn't have any other option but to continue this
[04:28:22] and but to win America just fuck off you have to understand if Iran loses then
[04:28:33] Iranian sovereignty is gone, the Iranian state is gone, unbelievable amounts of
[04:28:39] death and destruction. America losing here is just America retreating. So because
[04:28:51] it's an existential crisis for not only the Iranian government, but an
[04:28:56] existential crisis for the Iranian state remaining intact, of course they have to
[04:29:02] fucking fight back and we'll fight back and have been fighting back gonna run
[04:29:06] because they don't see any future for their party or their ability to do
[04:29:11] anything given the massacre that's gonna happen in November and a lot of that is
[04:29:15] of course because of this economic crisis created by this war and now by
[04:29:19] this blockade and the blockade takes time to work but John the critics and
[04:29:23] sorry to drag on about this but as you know on this program we like to hear the
[04:29:27] opponents arguments because that makes your arguments even stronger when you
[04:29:32] understand their arguments at their best, they would say that because the blockade might
[04:29:38] take a bit longer.
[04:29:39] That's where a resumption of military strikes might be necessary to shorten the timeline
[04:29:43] after all the U.S. and Israel still control the skies over Iran.
[04:29:48] So can you see this as a point where the Americans might resume hostilities?
[04:29:53] I make two points, Tom.
[04:29:55] The mere fact that they do not want to rely on the blockade alone, and they're talking
[04:30:01] about bringing military force to bear air power, to bear against Iran, tells you that
[04:30:06] they don't have that much faith in the blockade and supports what Trita and I are saying.
[04:30:13] The second point is, I think if we start-
[04:30:20] The third point before we get to the second point,
[04:30:26] the fact that they've relied on their standoff munitions rather than, you know,
[04:30:30] unguided or guided gravity bombs that they drop with airplanes over Iranian airspace,
[04:30:39] implies that they're not as confident in their in this air superiority argument either.
[04:30:49] Because America has expended a tremendous amount of their near peer and peer adversary munitions.
[04:31:00] In the process a lot of their standoff munitions they lob from very far away
[04:31:08] They have depleted
[04:31:12] And the reason for why they're doing that is because Iran does have anti aircraft systems
[04:31:20] and
[04:31:21] therefore
[04:31:23] America does not have the air superiority that they want to have here right using military force
[04:31:28] it will not work and the Iranians will retaliate and it will have even worse
[04:31:37] consequences for the international economy and it will give the Iranians
[04:31:41] more not less leverage. If I were playing Iran's hand I would hope the
[04:31:48] Americans would attack me. I don't think the Iranians have as much interest in
[04:31:54] in the status quo as they do in a restarting the war.
[04:32:00] Because if you restart the war,
[04:32:02] the economic consequences for the West will be disastrous.
[04:32:06] Yeah, wow.
[04:32:08] And that's not to mention the damaging leagues last week
[04:32:11] in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal
[04:32:13] about US munitions stocks, John.
[04:32:17] Yeah, we knew that already.
[04:32:19] That's not new information.
[04:32:20] There's only new information for the, for the intelligentsia,
[04:32:25] the American audience of, of New York times readers who are
[04:32:29] shocked by the unbelievable damage Iran has been able to,
[04:32:35] uh, deliver to the American forces in the region.
[04:32:38] We've known about it for months at this point.
[04:32:43] Absolutely. Absolutely. That's, you know, we haven't talked about that.
[04:32:46] That is an enormously important issue. Yeah.
[04:32:49] How would you respond to Jome about having an interest in resuming the conflict?
[04:32:57] I don't think that's what he's saying, compared to the status quo.
[04:33:02] Exactly, so I think their preference is to get a deal.
[04:33:05] Their preference would be to translate the gains that they have made in this war and in the period after
[04:33:10] into a new uncontested order in which sanctions are lifted and their position is essentially accepted
[04:33:17] and they have these type of non-aggression packs, etc. that they're looking for, that would obviously be their pressure.
[04:33:23] But if the status quo had continued without the blockade,
[04:33:28] they would have been in a very dire situation because they would have lost their ability to pressure the US.
[04:33:33] Trump foolishly, once again, went with the advice of the Israelis, put on a blockade, and now he's hurting more than the Iranians are.
[04:33:42] So the status quo suddenly is actually not as bad for the Iranians.
[04:33:46] unless, of course, he does something else that gets him out of that situation.
[04:33:52] But if he were to go and start another war, he would, I do believe that in some ways he
[04:33:58] may end up actually doing the Iranians a favor.
[04:34:00] They will go after, first of all, they actually managed to now, just in the last couple of
[04:34:05] weeks, do a lot with the Chinese in terms of rebuilding their assets, etc.
[04:34:10] We also know that what Pete Hexit was saying about how much had been destroyed was absolutely
[04:34:14] not true.
[04:34:15] US intelligence leaks have showed that Iranians have a significant amount of their missiles,
[04:34:20] particularly the shorter range missiles that they would use in the Persian Gulf left.
[04:34:24] I think if we see another round of fighting, the Iranians are going to once again escalate
[04:34:30] horizontally in a way that the US cannot control.
[04:34:33] They will once again have escalation dominance, and I think this time around they're going
[04:34:36] to go after the UAE in a manner that they didn't do in the first round, even if that
[04:34:40] was a pretty rough period for the Emiratis.
[04:34:44] So it sounds like Trump, according to you, traitor, is damned if he doesn't, damned
[04:34:48] if he doesn't, because he's trapped.
[04:34:49] John.
[04:34:50] No, actually, the only reason he's trapped is because he keeps on taking his rules of
[04:34:53] advice.
[04:34:54] If he just goes out of that and he negotiates based on what he says should be the case,
[04:35:00] America first, we would be in a terribly different, in a much, much better situation
[04:35:04] that we're right now.
[04:35:05] He didn't care about enrichment before.
[04:35:08] He only cared about nuclear weapons.
[04:35:10] He shifted that position to the Israeli position and then that kind of put him in a corner
[04:35:14] on the nuclear question.
[04:35:16] He can unlock that again, go back and say, I'm preventing an Iranian nuclear weapon,
[04:35:21] but I can tolerate 3.67% in which uranium just as the previous JCP-8, or they could
[04:35:27] actually go below that.
[04:35:29] But nevertheless, he's not going for zero enrichment.
[04:35:32] There's a lot of things he can do.
[04:35:34] Let me put this question to John, then get your response treated, because I think this
[04:35:37] is important about the Israel issue.
[04:35:39] Surely there's an issue beyond this, which is dignity and honor, credibility and prestige,
[04:35:45] which matters a lot to any American president, and especially the way that Donald Trump.
[04:35:53] Donald Trump is an Israeli comrade at this point.
[04:35:59] I don't know if there's any dignified exit for Trump, no matter what happens.
[04:36:09] What dignity remains for Donald Trump?
[04:36:17] I don't even think he has a, I don't even think he can maintain dignity at this point.
[04:36:27] Ever again, you are being very disrespectful towards the president.
[04:36:33] I think the president is being disrespectful to himself interprets honor and dignity.
[04:36:39] And you know, quite on quite understandably, he's on the back for you because the right
[04:36:44] shadow, you should ask me to check by a sort by new in the comments one more time.
[04:36:50] Yeah, you should just spam it a couple more times and I'll definitely do it.
[04:36:55] Okay.
[04:36:56] regime looks like it's going to survive in Tehran. There's still going to be some kind
[04:37:12] of enrichment program in Iran. They've still got ballistic missile capabilities in Iran.
[04:37:20] And moreover, they still got their militia proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthi
[04:37:26] rebels in Yemen.
[04:37:28] Now these were the main conditions on February 28 for a successful outcome.
[04:37:33] At this stage, none of those conditions appear to be met.
[04:37:36] So how can Trump resolve this given all of that?
[04:37:40] John?
[04:37:41] Well, let me make two points.
[04:37:44] One is a minor point, and the goal here was to do away completely with Iran's nuclear
[04:37:50] enrichment capability. So whether you put limits on it for five years, 10 years, 15 years is largely
[04:37:56] irrelevant to that point. Your enrichment capability is going to remain intact. So just to reinforce
[04:38:05] what you said, Tom, he fells across the board. And what you have to add to that is that the Iranians
[04:38:13] who did not control the strait on February 27th and have a toll booth in it, now control the strait and have a toll booth in it that they don't intend to give up.
[04:38:23] Furthermore, we have all the-
[04:38:24] My dream is to laugh it up with the goat shimer like this, okay?
[04:38:34] Just yucking it up, okay? Laughin' away.
[04:38:37] It's fancy military bases in the region on February 27th, and almost all of them have
[04:38:47] been either badly damaged or destroyed.
[04:38:51] So if you sort of look at the situation that Trump is in, he is facing abject defeat.
[04:38:58] I mean, we could put lipstick on a pig, but there were limits to what you can do in that
[04:39:03] regard.
[04:39:04] He lost.
[04:39:05] This was a co-
[04:39:06] its pants, check Connor's message, Nick Shirley out journalisming you on Cuba.
[04:39:11] I was almost taken hostage in Cuba with the Cuba to document the humanitarian crisis show
[04:39:15] life under 60 plus years of communism now made the US blockade. Once I landed they seized
[04:39:20] all my cameras except my iPhone and had intelligence agents follow me all day until my security
[04:39:25] noticed their spies tailing us to the hotel where they waited all night for us to come
[04:39:29] down. Under communism there is no free speech and those who show the reality or speak up
[04:39:34] are in prison, me going without a plan Cuban government guide nearly got me in my security
[04:39:38] taken hostage or in prison. The situation in Cuba is much worse than anyone knows.
[04:39:44] Yeah, it's weird because I did the same shit. And I went to Cuba and I did not have a an
[04:39:57] experience anywhere near whatever the fuck he's talking about.
[04:40:00] Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna forcibly make Nick Shirley literate dude
[04:40:27] That's funny chatter. You're gonna teach him how to read and write before we get to the embassy.
[04:40:48] This is gonna hit the timeline. Get ready.
[04:40:52] Yeah, by the way, we already know Nick Shirley is basically a fucking government asset. Any
[04:40:56] time he goes somewhere to do propaganda, that means that they're going to start, um, what
[04:41:03] is this? Candice Owens extending an olive branch. We need to continue to fix the fraction
[04:41:12] between the left and right. We know what true evil is. This is us against the Epstein class
[04:41:15] some warmongers. She's still blocked me. So look, I'm still blocked. Clandis. I mean,
[04:41:30] Sorry. I'm a clandestine operator. Okay. I'm a clandestine operator. Unblock me.
[04:41:53] Why are you blocked? I've been blocked for years.
[04:41:56] Why do shadows want to work with white nationalists so badly with the fuck's wrong though?
[04:42:02] I think they're memeing. I don't think, I don't think chatters are being serious.
[04:42:10] I don't even think chatters fuck with Candace. I think Candace always a bridge too far for
[04:42:14] chatters. Like there are chatters who like sincerely think like Tucker Carlson could be an ally and
[04:42:19] and they're wrong. But I don't think those chatters think Candace Owens is a reliable
[04:42:26] ally. Bros, you're Saturday. Hundreds of people want Tucker. Yeah. Well, Tucker's also a white
[04:42:35] man. So that's what it is.
[04:42:43] Ah, anyway, let's continue.
[04:42:48] Also, Blunder, and really what's going on here is whether or not he is going to accept
[04:42:55] defeat and try and dress it up as much as he can as a partial victory.
[04:43:00] But he is not achieved and he is not going to achieve any of the goals that he declared
[04:43:08] on February 27th or before.
[04:43:10] And furthermore, he's lost on a number of other important dimensions as well, a colossal
[04:43:17] defeat.
[04:43:18] Trita.
[04:43:19] Jon is absolutely right.
[04:43:20] I would just add one thing.
[04:43:22] He can still spin it into a victory if he strikes a deal.
[04:43:28] He manages to get the Iranians to give things that they were putting on the table in Geneva
[04:43:34] that would make it a deal that is stronger than the JCPOA.
[04:43:38] He lifts sanctions.
[04:43:39] He opens up the Iranian economy to American companies for the first time in 47 years.
[04:43:46] This is the largest economy that will have been opened up since the fall of the Soviet
[04:43:49] Union.
[04:43:50] It will dramatically benefit the American middle class and the manufacturing industry.
[04:43:57] And he will focus all of his tweets and truth social posts and everything else on that aspect.
[04:44:03] And the American public by and large will mostly care about that.
[04:44:07] And the Washington foreign policy elite will mostly focus on everything John said, and
[04:44:11] he's absolutely right on all of those points.
[04:44:12] It's an utter defeat.
[04:44:14] But for Trump, the former of being able to say that he did all of these things and opened
[04:44:18] up the economy and benefits American businesses is going to be his only message.
[04:44:23] He'll talk about it over and over again.
[04:44:24] He'll make up some stuff about it.
[04:44:26] He's changed the regime in Iran or whatever.
[04:44:27] No one believes that, but that's fine.
[04:44:30] But he can still turn this around because he's Trump, because he has that capability.
[04:44:34] any other president, it would not even be a consideration or an option for them to even
[04:44:38] think about this.
[04:44:39] To the extent that Trader is right, John, how would...
[04:44:43] No, the only thing that's different about Donald Trump, and we did talk about this by
[04:44:48] the way, Trader and I talked about this as well, and I agree with his disassessment
[04:44:53] at least, the American Treasury never released sanctions against American companies, but
[04:44:59] they released sanctions against European companies.
[04:45:01] Donald Trump is invested in releasing sanctions against America as well.
[04:45:05] That's a huge deal.
[04:45:07] And that is something that the Trump administration would do.
[04:45:10] That is something that Trump would do.
[04:45:12] No other president would be willing to do that.
[04:45:15] Like Barack Obama wasn't willing to do that, and he would not do that for the JCPOA.
[04:45:21] But Trump would, because that would, and I mean this seriously, that would mean having
[04:45:26] a Trump Tower in Tehran.
[04:45:29] And I'm not joking when I say this, okay, please understand.
[04:45:33] I'm not joking when I say this.
[04:45:35] That is a huge sweetener for this deal, okay?
[04:45:40] That literally is not a joke.
[04:45:44] That is a literal reason as to why Donald Trump would actually think about releasing
[04:45:51] the American sanctions on Iran.
[04:45:55] Iran knows this.
[04:45:56] as everybody else in the region knows this reality. And that is precisely the reason why,
[04:46:02] regardless of how aggressively Trump is behaving like a servile little piggy for Israel,
[04:46:15] that is the only option that the Iranians have.
[04:46:19] Trump's intellectual supporters on Iran, you know, the Defense of Democracies Foundation,
[04:46:25] the Bret Stephens of the world.
[04:46:27] Yeah, will it happen though? No.
[04:46:40] And not to mention Israel, how would I respond?
[04:46:43] Well, the point is that the story that Trita was just telling
[04:46:48] explains why we should have had good relations with Iran a long time ago. I would argue starting
[04:46:58] in the mid-1990s the time was right for Rob Kroshmat and we and the Iranians both would have
[04:47:04] benefited greatly from having good relations. The idea that Iran is a meaningful threat to the
[04:47:10] United States is not a serious argument. But then the question is why didn't we have good relations?
[04:47:16] And the answer is because of Israel and the lobby here in the United States.
[04:47:23] And the problem that Trump faces is if he tries to cut a deal and he tries to spin it along the
[04:47:29] lines that he was outlining, what he's going to run into is a real buzz saw called Israel and the
[04:47:36] lobby. And this gets to your question, Tom. Of course, those people, you know, in the foundation
[04:47:42] for defensive democracies, Wall Street Journal, and so forth and so on. And Israel itself, of
[04:47:48] course, are going to be beside themselves. They're not going to know what to do. This is going to
[04:47:54] be the end of the world for them. You want to remember, we can argue, I think quite correctly,
[04:48:01] that Iran is not a serious threat for the United States. But from Israel's point of view,
[04:48:06] it's an existential threat. They believe that. And they went to war thinking they were going
[04:48:11] to do away with this existential threat. And in fact, the end result of the war is that the
[04:48:17] existential threat comes out better off than it was going into the war. This is a disaster for
[04:48:23] the Israelis, and they will go to enormous lengths to complicate Trump's life and make it
[04:48:31] extremely difficult for Trump to do what Trita said he should do. And by the way,
[04:48:37] treat is also right. There's nobody who could spin his way out of a situation like this better
[04:48:42] than Donald Trump. I don't know that for one second. He's a genius. He has said consistently
[04:48:49] throughout this war period, especially since February 28 that if Iran had a nuclear weapon,
[04:48:55] the whole world would be held hostage and he's doing something now with Iran that other nations
[04:49:01] and other presidents should have done long ago. And there is a widespread view that Iran should
[04:49:05] should not develop a nuclear weapon.
[04:49:07] So Trump would have support beyond Israel, Trina.
[04:49:12] Well, if there is a deal that actually is stronger
[04:49:17] than the JCPOA, then no, he will not have support beyond,
[04:49:20] opposition beyond Israel, because every country in the world
[04:49:23] with the exception of Saudi Arabia, UAE and Israel,
[04:49:27] supported the JCPOA.
[04:49:28] It was passed in the Security Council 15 to zero.
[04:49:33] to zero. So if he gets a deal that actually has those nuclear components, which he could have done
[04:49:39] on February 24th or whatever was when that meeting was held in Geneva by the Omanis,
[04:49:47] then he would have had this. So, and there would have been no objections from any country except
[04:49:50] for Israel and the Emirates, even the Saudis at this point will know.
[04:49:53] Yep. And that would be the biggest problem though. What in it? And that's why we didn't get that.
[04:50:03] John is, of course, absolutely right, on the normal circumstances, there will be a massive set of oppositions coming from Israel and its supporters.
[04:50:15] In fact, sanctions relief is almost the worst thing the Trump or the US could do.
[04:50:20] The Israelis want to keep Iran as weak as possible. You do that either through a bombing campaign that is intense,
[04:50:26] And then you may have to do it a couple of years again later on, but as part of their
[04:50:31] inhumane mowing the lawn strategy, or you have in combination with that massive sanctions
[04:50:38] on the country that over the years, over decades, that degrades the country's industrial base.
[04:50:44] So it's bad enough for these Israelis that the war is over.
[04:50:46] The idea that the U.S. would lift sanctions would be totally unacceptable.
[04:50:50] But here's where there actually may be a unique opportunity for Trump to do it, without
[04:50:56] having to face at least that level of opposition from the Israelis.
[04:51:00] Maybe Netanyahu is going to have an election in Israel sometime between July and October
[04:51:04] of this year.
[04:51:06] He has failed to translate support for war in Israel, which is very strong, into a political
[04:51:11] plus within the politics of the country at this point.
[04:51:17] He's fighting for his freedom, frankly, because he's likely going to be chair of the elections.
[04:51:23] And on top of that, Trump remains very, very...
[04:51:26] Met Gala is on it and reminded me of your worst take ever defending him because awesome
[04:51:29] real shit straight out of the Hunger Games in a just world of Met Gala would not have
[04:51:35] to do these extravagant, these attempts to fundraise by having some of the super wealthy
[04:51:44] people but it would be just funded by the public.
[04:51:51] I'm not in favor of the Met Gala, especially as Jeff Bezos being like the lead executive.
[04:51:59] But if you think that I'm going to be anti-art, anti-the-met, you're insane.
[04:52:06] I don't know if you know this, but my mother is an art history professor, okay?
[04:52:13] And fashion is, whether many chatters in here want to admit it or not, it doesn't matter.
[04:52:19] is a part of art is a part of artistic expression.
[04:52:42] Anyway, popular in Israel, which means that in this election, Trump, and it make gala
[04:52:57] is an art. Yes, it is. What are you talking about? It's a way to fund the arts. What do
[04:53:02] you think the make gala is for? I don't even know what the make gala fizz look like this
[04:53:10] I didn't even know it was happening until literally I found out that Meryl Streep is refusing to attend.
[04:53:19] I only found out that the Maggala is happening this year because Meryl Streep is not attending because Jeff Bezos is now like the the executive.
[04:53:27] Which is disgusting in and of itself.
[04:53:35] But, um...
[04:53:40] Let's see what they look like. Oh God. Oh
[04:53:47] My god
[04:53:51] She's dressed like she's going to an Amazon party most people don't know that the Met is the Metropolitan Museum of Art
[04:53:59] part. That's a fit. Never mind. Remember, these are fashion houses as well.
[04:54:16] And now who cannot afford to be at loggerheads with Trump, he cannot fight Trump tooth and
[04:54:24] nail during this period. If he does, Trump could, if he wanted to, go and tell Netanyahu
[04:54:32] that either Israel or it supports Washington, need to back off. Otherwise, I'm going to
[04:54:36] throw my weight behind Naftali Bennett or something of that kind. And that could actually,
[04:54:41] so the degree of vulnerability the Israeli Prime Minister has against Trump in the next
[04:54:48] couple of months is actually at a record level, where the Trump chooses to use that to actually
[04:54:53] get a deal that would be really good for America is a different story. But I agree fully with
[04:54:58] John of course in the normal circumstances this would be so intimidating that most American
[04:55:02] presidents wouldn't even try to do it. Yeah but the obvious question to Trump would be why then did
[04:55:07] you scrap the Obama nuclear deal in 2015? Lisa from Blackpink looks great, she always looks great.
[04:55:14] Well, I think that he was very cocky at the time. He thought that the deal was not terrific,
[04:55:26] and it was not terrific. It was the best deal we could get. It was, I think, a very good
[04:55:31] deal, but it had certain drawbacks. He played on those drawbacks, and he withdrew from the
[04:55:38] deal foolishly, I argued, but he thought he was going to get in
[04:55:42] place a better deal. Here's basically going to get the
[04:55:47] Iranians to give up on nuclear enrichment. That's the issue
[04:55:51] here. Can you get the Iranians to give up a nuclear enrichment?
[04:55:54] And he thought that he could put economic
[04:55:57] I know what the fuck the mad gal was because it really is from
[04:56:00] an outsider perspective, just a bunch of rich assholes wearing
[04:56:02] protection clothes, law fashion is arbitrage, there's a
[04:56:03] difference in actually expressive fashion, which includes
[04:56:05] Everything in risk. Um, stop, stop. Just stop, please, please. I beg of you. Okay. No, it's also art. Okay. Like,
[04:56:21] Oh, every time, every, every year, every time, every time the Met Gala happens every year, we have this back and forth over and over again, where I try to explain to you guys.
[04:56:35] That it doesn't matter. Okay. It's just you just don't like it. And that's fine.
[04:56:41] Stop trying to like find a moralizing purpose for it, moralizing reason for it. Okay.
[04:56:49] Fashion is art. It doesn't matter what the price point is. Okay. It's still art.
[04:56:54] Like, I don't know why people can't just be like, I dislike this. Okay, you can just as easily say,
[04:57:07] look, I know this funds the arts programs and the initiative, but I just don't like the idea of a
[04:57:12] bunch of rich assholes getting together like it's the fucking Hunger Games as people are suffering.
[04:57:16] That's a perfectly valid thing to say. You don't have to turn around and moralize your distaste
[04:57:22] for something, okay? I think this is a real problem with the left, where everything needs to be
[04:57:28] like morally consistent or everything needs to be moralized as though it's like a like an ethical
[04:57:34] consideration, okay? And not only that, but also the ethical considerations that you guys are making
[04:57:45] are not born out of like a sincere concern, but it's or a consistent concern that you have,
[04:57:50] but it's usually just because you don't personally fuck with it and you don't care about it.
[04:57:56] It's not the leftist annoying people online, yes.
[04:58:01] The class character of the, of art absolutely has no bearing on its qualitative attributes,
[04:58:06] just enjoy things you stupid leftists, you are way out of your depth my man.
[04:58:10] And then here comes, here comes the fucking most annoying version of this.
[04:58:17] Okay.
[04:58:20] Buddy, I already told you in a perfect universe that the Met Gala is not, is not hosted for
[04:58:30] like wealthy fucking people, don't ban me I was just pen testing, you fucking asshole.
[04:58:43] If we're having a conversation on whether or not fashion is art, yes, it's class characteristics
[04:58:50] of this event has no basis or no bearing on whether or not this is art or not, okay?
[04:58:58] If we're talking about how extravagant it is and how the optics are completely out of
[04:59:03] fucking whack, I'm there with you. But ultimately, these are two separate conversations. So yes,
[04:59:10] the events class characteristics have no bearing on the qualitative assessment or even whether or
[04:59:17] not fashion is art. It doesn't. There's also never been a time throughout history where
[04:59:24] the upper crust of society have not been the primary funders of artistic endeavors that
[04:59:30] we all now look back at and go, oh my god, thank god the church or thank god the kings
[04:59:36] and thank god the lords actually funded these initiatives.
[04:59:40] Holy shit!
[04:59:47] There's literally never been an instance, unless you're looking at fucking cave paintings, okay?
[04:59:54] And that's what this conversation has always reduced to. Well, in the period of primitive
[04:59:58] accumulation, art could simply exist without having to, without having to have any primary
[05:00:04] benefactors for it. Okay, dude.
[05:00:26] Comic pressure on them. Maximum pressure. That's what he was thinking of doing. Sounds
[05:00:30] like you Tom talking about what the West is doing to the Iranians today.
[05:01:00] That's incredible. Katy Perry looks like a mess. I mean, that's not surprising.
[05:01:06] Careful, people are gonna get mad at you. Oh my God, what else is new? It's another Monday.
[05:01:13] No, this is a predatory old man. Shut up, Hasan Ankh. Wait, what?
[05:01:30] Hunter Schaefer, she also looks incredible, as always.
[05:01:45] Wait, why am I a predatory? What? I don't understand. Am I the predatory one?
[05:01:54] Someone shot at JD Vance, what?
[05:02:00] Oh, the the Washington Monument shootout was against JD Vance.
[05:02:16] around it.
[05:02:22] My watch is asked me out of the blue if Dua Lipa is hot. I feel like I'm being
[05:02:26] entrapped. Don't answer that question.
[05:02:30] The JD Vansting is not real. Yeah, Lamar on by center were shot. I don't know. I
[05:02:36] haven't even looked into it because I feel like shootings happen so frequently
[05:02:39] nowadays. I can't keep up with it. There's more important things going on. The
[05:02:43] people you were describing as thinking today, putting maximum punishment on the Iranians
[05:02:49] and they'll throw up their hands.
[05:02:51] And by the way, we caused in that first Trump administration, as Trina knows better than
[05:02:55] I do, a huge amount of pain in Iran.
[05:03:00] That maximum pressure campaign was very successful, but they didn't throw up their hands.
[05:03:06] And Trump now knows that he's never going to get them to give up nuclear enrichment completely
[05:03:11] and he's going to have to work out some deal that he can say is better than the JCPOA.
[05:03:17] Let's just change the subject just very briefly. Think Tank that you co-founded and our Vice
[05:03:23] President of Trita, believes in foreign policy restraint and discrimination. And just in the
[05:03:29] last week in Germany where the biggest contingent of US forces in Europe is based, it's about to
[05:03:38] get smaller, 15% smaller after the Pentagon announced it was withdrawing 5,000 troops
[05:03:44] over the next year. This is clearly in response to the views of the chancellor criticising
[05:03:50] Donald Trump. But letting that aside, is it a healthy development for the Americans to
[05:03:56] start placing less military footprint in Europe?
[05:04:00] Yes, however, it shouldn't be done in this way. It shouldn't be in retaliation because
[05:04:04] of the comment that the chairman chance should be done because we have this
[05:04:08] don't say anything it's good it's good terrible advice is a wife everyone knows
[05:04:12] duly but it was objectively hot answering no just let's the wife know
[05:04:15] their partner is a liar you I think it's a trap just say I only have eyes for one
[05:04:24] woman and that's you my wife my wife that's how you do it on how we maximize
[05:04:31] U.S. interest while at the same time retaining a strong alliance with it's a trap you just go I
[05:04:37] don't know I just got here that's what you say and then you run away click my link it's important
[05:04:45] breaking Delta Airlines with no longer offer free snacks or drinks on all flights starting May 19
[05:04:49] under 350 miles meanwhile Delta CEO Ed Bashin received 27.1 million and 2024 customers lose
[05:04:56] every single time.
[05:05:01] Uh, tariff on cert- Wait, the Goy Block is down?
[05:05:07] Not the Goy Block!
[05:05:09] Lotus bakeries, we would rather not see import duties.
[05:05:12] No!
[05:05:14] No!
[05:05:19] Not my Goy Block.
[05:05:26] It's incredible.
[05:05:38] This is a cultural lemma.
[05:05:39] I'm done with this video.
[05:05:42] Uh, I can't believe this.
[05:05:48] Um,
[05:06:00] Secret services suspect opened fire on them and was shot in exchange near
[05:06:04] Washington Monument here.
[05:06:05] that consistently are approximately 330 this afternoon are
[05:06:10] clean clothes officers and agents that consistently patrol the
[05:06:15] outer perimeter of the White House complex identified a suspicious
[05:06:20] individual that appeared to have a firearm. They called in support
[05:06:25] from our marked uniform Secret Service police to make contact
[05:06:28] with that individual on making contact that individual fled
[05:06:32] briefly on foot with drew a firearm and fired fired in the direction of this is
[05:06:38] why we need a ballroom. Say it.
[05:06:44] This cop needs to say those words. This is why we need a ballroom. If you
[05:06:51] don't say it, I will think you're compromised. Sir, our agents and
[05:06:55] officers, they returned fire and engaged. That individual was hit. He's since
[05:07:00] been transported to the hospital. I have no no comments on his condition. I can
[05:07:05] tell you that at least one, we believe only one bystander was hit by the
[05:07:11] suspect. That individual to juvenile did not sustain any life threatening
[05:07:17] injuries, but he's also receiving treatment at the hospital. I'll point
[05:07:22] out that not long before this shooting occurred, the vice president's
[05:07:26] motorcade did transit through this area. Um, the investigation itself in terms of
[05:07:32] the use of force in the shooting will be conducted by Metropolitan Police.
[05:07:37] Yeah, they wrote I hate the ballroom on the casing. Okay, what do you want me
[05:07:43] to do about this, man? Yeah, there you go. Evidence found here. This will be
[05:07:48] seen. This will be found at the scene of the crime. I hate ballroom.
[05:07:56] Yeah. Yeah, I hate ballroom and I also hate cash Patel. I it would be I would love it
[05:08:07] if cash Patel got fired. That's what they wrote on the casings. Yeah, they wrote on
[05:08:21] one of the bullets they wrote, uh, I hate the bar. I'm on another one. They wrote, uh,
[05:08:25] 86, 47. And on another one, they wrote, uh, fire, cash, Patel now. He's too good at,
[05:08:35] and then on another one, they wrote, he's too good at solving crimes. Yeah. That's what
[05:08:46] it is. He's just too, and on another one they wrote, and trustworthy. He looks like a trustworthy
[05:08:53] guy and I hate that.
[05:08:56] Yeah, firecash. Also, his girlfriend loves him. He's not cooked.
[05:09:09] All right, let's get back to this Northern Israel residents say war must go on in Lebanon
[05:09:19] From can you explain the support for the Met Gala? I hate on it, but don't understand much so want to learn
[05:09:25] The Met Gala is this extravagant event. Okay, and it's fucking annoying
[05:09:31] but
[05:09:32] The reason why it happens the reason why it exists as that article was going to explain that I just didn't even read is
[05:09:40] So they can fund the costume Institute at the Met
[05:09:44] Okay
[05:09:47] Where is the fucking
[05:09:50] Here it is
[05:09:52] For years as the Met Gala has grown ever bigger blackening social media with pictures of guests in their finalist smashing cultural fundraising records
[05:09:58] teetering on the line between fabulous and ridiculous the questions of controversy surrounding New York's party of the year have likewise
[05:10:06] proliferated could this shindig nominally a
[05:10:09] Benefit for the costume is through the Metropolitan Museum of Art get any more high profile when the most of the country was struggling
[05:10:14] Should any institution be charging a hundred thousand dollars a ticket for a party and perhaps most important
[05:10:19] What would happen when end of wind tour the evening's mastermind and the woman who transformed it from a typical charity ball into an attention guzzling juggernaut retired?
[05:10:27] With the brands and people willing to pony up these exorbitant sums to be in another's orbit,
[05:10:33] instead pocket the money. And if so, what would that mean for the future of the Costume Institute,
[05:10:39] a department that has almost been fully dependent on the Gala as the source of its annual funds
[05:10:43] since the party began in 1948? Couldn't it even survive without the extravaganza? It turns out
[05:10:48] the museum itself has been quietly working for an answer. Since 2016, we've been putting some money
[05:10:53] that we raised for the Gala inside of a quasi endowment. Andrew Bolton, the Costume
[05:10:57] Institute's curator and Char said this month, oh thank god the Met Gala and the Costume
[05:11:01] Institute has also turned into a bank. Also turned into a fucking bank.
[05:11:11] Everything, everything computer, everything is a bank. We've turned us into a gay hedge fund like
[05:11:17] our colleges. And by 2030, possibly as soon as 2028, the Costume Institute will have saved
[05:11:24] enough of a NASDAQ to potentially support its own-based operations for the foreseeable future,
[05:11:29] no matter what happens in the greater museum economy or with the Gala itself.
[05:11:33] Along with this year's inauguration of the Conde NASD galleries in the Great Hall,
[05:11:38] which will house the Costume Institute's blockbuster shows,
[05:11:41] the Endowment Fund represents a drastic transformation in the position of the Costume
[05:11:44] Institute, not to mention his relationship with the party held in its honor.
[05:11:55] I and the museum always wanted the department to not be as reliant on the gala every year,
[05:11:58] Bolton said. The Met Gala is extraordinary, but sometimes it dwarfs everything. Besides,
[05:12:03] the department has been forced to cancel Gala's twice in 2002 after September 11 and in 2020
[05:12:08] during the early months of the pandemic. It was a real wake-up call, Bolton said,
[05:12:12] of the COVID cancellation, but if there was another global disaster and people were like,
[05:12:15] I can't come to a party. Ms. Wintour, he said, takes immense pride in every year going higher
[05:12:21] and higher, but there will be a point where it's not sustainable."
[05:12:28] A more permanent reliable solution was necessary to ensure that we would be safe in terms of the
[05:12:32] upkeep and care of our collection and have enough money to take care of ourselves indefinitely.
[05:12:36] According to Darren Walker, the President of the Board of Trustees and National Gallery
[05:12:41] Art of Washington, it's always great news if a department can be fully funded. But aside
[05:12:45] from the private museums, I don't know of any that actually are. Enter the endowment fund.
[05:12:50] So the article is basically talking about how they have raised enough funds to not only sustain
[05:12:57] the Costume Institute, but they've also raised additional funds that they've put on the side
[05:13:01] to an endowment process to you know participate in the market. This crazy
[05:13:11] target tell me one of the world's top museums only surviving because of a
[05:13:14] once-a-year celebrity self-jerk off yes and not just the museum one part of the
[05:13:20] museum yes dude yes because in the United States of America we don't give
[05:13:26] all fuck about the arts have you not figured it out by now we have some
[05:13:32] public funding initiatives but the reality of the matter is we unironically
[05:13:36] do not have the necessary public funding for for any of these any of these art
[05:13:44] initiatives at all
[05:13:56] So, no, this doesn't even fund the Met, the entire Metropolitan Museum of Art. It funds
[05:14:07] literally just a costume institute. Yes. Also, this is true of every museum. The Met
[05:14:13] is just in New York where rich and famous people are. Yes. I mean, I've gone, like,
[05:14:23] you go to the, if you go to the LACMA, okay, you will see, and this is the same for like,
[05:14:28] I mean, the Getty Museum, literally the Getty Museum. But if you go to LACMA, there's like an
[05:14:33] entire wing, for example, dedicated to the LACMA by the pistachio guys, whatever the fuck their
[05:14:41] name is, right? The ones that are, the ones that have been aggressively petitioning the government
[05:14:46] to blow up Iran because they are the Resnick's. Thank you.
[05:14:54] Yeah. The wonderful company, the ones that have been urging the government to continue
[05:15:09] bombing Iran and hit a couple of the pistachio fields because Iran is where a lot of the
[05:15:16] global pistachios come from. But yeah, they fund the arts on the side.
[05:15:29] Yeah, last week, Americans really fired a just targeted Iranian pistachio company
[05:15:33] warehouses, the Resnick family's Beverly Hills based pistachio empire stands
[05:15:36] the game. You won't believe the backstory. This was what pistachio was a
[05:15:42] documentary that was here.
[05:15:47] One of the most bizarre things about California's pistachio industry is that it was born out
[05:15:51] of America's meddling in the Middle East.
[05:15:53] Historically, Iran has always been the world's biggest exporter of pistachios, but the embargo
[05:15:58] allowed California's tiny industry to get a global foothold.
[05:16:02] After several decades of continued hostility and sanctions, the US industry, who from being
[05:16:07] almost nonexistent, to number one in the world.
[05:16:11] As I dug into the details, I realized that this was much bigger than just Victoril.
[05:16:16] It turned out that a small group of powerful families had seized control of California's
[05:16:20] water supply.
[05:16:23] Even weirder was that the whole thing was being driven by a pair of high society billionaires,
[05:16:28] or Beverly Hills, Stewart and Linda Resnick.
[05:16:30] They needed their money off of statuettes.
[05:16:34] But what really made them stand out was that they owned more water than anyone else in
[05:16:38] the planet.
[05:16:39] More surprisingly, they were on the board of several major think tanks, including the
[05:16:45] Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
[05:16:47] They've been on the board for over a decade.
[05:16:50] It's an organization that badly wants war with Iran.
[05:16:54] I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough, and it's very hard for me to
[05:16:59] see how the United States president can get us to war with Iran.
[05:17:02] One can combine other means of pressure with sanctions.
[05:17:06] We could step up the pressure.
[05:17:07] I mean, look people you ready and submarines periodically go down someday. One of them might not come up. Who would know why?
[05:17:19] Yeah, one of the most big
[05:17:22] They also
[05:17:23] The billionaire is a wonderful steward and Linda Resnick have given a lot of money to pros or organizations and politicians who are hawkish on Iran
[05:17:32] But yeah, that's how it is. Okay, listen once again, even though chat won't respect what I say
[05:17:36] I see the Met Gals a charity function that functions both to promote the height of the arts and culture while also teaching the public via the
[05:17:41] Costume Institute and its annual exhibitions in an era where the arts are being pushed to the wayside for AI bullshit having an event
[05:17:48] Where the artistic medium of fashion is promoted not for the purpose of selling a garment but to push boundaries and fashion as in our form
[05:17:53] Is a good thing shrug. Yeah, good luck
[05:17:56] There you go, you be I read your fucking comment and now guess what everyone in the chat is gonna yell at you
[05:18:02] okay, and
[05:18:04] And each garment worn represents tens of thousands of hours tens of thousands of jobs an entire artistic economy that comes together to engage and pursue the
[05:18:11] Entirely human endeavor of artistic vision and beauty some may personally not like that endeavor, but it is one that is worthwhile. It should be respected
[05:18:17] I agree with you
[05:18:19] but
[05:18:20] I've learned a long time ago to ever fucking discuss
[05:18:25] the the
[05:18:26] The arts in this community beyond anime and maybe some hentai
[05:18:31] Okay, anytime
[05:18:33] First world problem, shut the fuck up!
[05:18:35] It's not a fucking first world problem!
[05:18:38] Every human being has the capacity to engage with art!
[05:18:42] That's the beauty of art!
[05:18:44] It's one of the most consequential aspects of human existence!
[05:18:48] You're a fucking robot!
[05:18:59] Jesus Christ!
[05:19:03] 100,000 particular invitation is not the average person. Oh my god. Oh my god. I'm gonna lose my mind. Oh my god. Oh
[05:19:16] My god, everyone is being purposely obtuse. Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. Oh, I
[05:19:23] Can't I it's just this is why you know, it's IE
[05:19:27] We can't have a conversation about fucking anything aren't related to this community. Okay
[05:19:33] It's a bunch of dumb dullards who literally think well this is not for me so it doesn't matter to me fuck you
[05:19:41] Okay, that's it
[05:19:49] It's it a bunch of fucking philistines. Oh my god
[05:19:54] of
[05:20:07] I love that half of your community is well-read and loves the arts and the other half are
[05:20:36] ding dong gamers only you can bring us together love the belt and jeans today by the way thank you
[05:20:43] oh my god oh yeah yeah
[05:21:06] For a lot of people, for a lot of people, they just, they, they do two things.
[05:21:22] Number one, if I don't like it, then it's much easier for me to disparage it without
[05:21:26] actually looking into it, right?
[05:21:28] That's the one thing that people do that I get really annoyed with.
[05:21:30] The other thing that a lot of people do, especially on the left, is the moralization of their
[05:21:35] distaste. You can't just say, you can't have a nuanced perspective on anything. You can't
[05:21:42] just be like, yeah, this is optically not the greatest look, I'll admit. This level of extravagance,
[05:21:50] it's not for me. You can't just say that. You can't just keep it at that. You have to be like,
[05:21:57] no, this is the grossest, most exploitative thing and you're a bad person if you enjoy it. There's
[05:22:05] no there's no like there's no reason for this to this event to exist like it's
[05:22:13] it's unethical all this shit it's like you don't have to moralize your distaste
[05:22:22] you just say I don't like it that's it
[05:22:35] Interesting to me that the Met Gala gets compared to the Hunger Games more than the Oscars
[05:22:41] red carpet or the Super Bowl halftime show. All of these involves spectacles, celebrities
[05:22:45] and extreme displays of wealth. Notably, only one of them is a charity for a public institution,
[05:22:49] the Met Gala, which is a fundraiser for the Met Museum. The difference, I think, is that
[05:22:53] the Met Gala leans more into unusual outfits. That's natural, given that it's a fundraiser
[05:22:56] for a costume institute. But to me, the perpetual criticism, which comes of year after year,
[05:23:01] speaks to how people see fashion as frivolous and not as serious as other corners of culture.
[05:23:05] such as sports and movies, exactly. Exactly. It's because the people that are,
[05:23:12] it's because the people that like appreciate it, enjoy it, care about it are smaller, I think.
[05:23:19] And therefore, it's seen as a, is a silly hobby for only wealthy people.
[05:23:26] Okay. The more extreme the outfit, the more it offends the public. Even as,
[05:23:30] even if such work is an expression of artisanship and craft, no different from an artist creating
[05:23:34] a painting. I've said it before, but Western culture has a long history of seeing clothes
[05:23:38] as frivolous, even if everyone engages in self-fashioning. And it's notable that serious
[05:23:42] areas of culture are often masculine-coded, e.g. architecture, while feminine-coded
[05:23:46] interests such as fashion are considered frivolous. One can reasonably question whether the Bezos
[05:23:52] are trying to whitewash their reputation through the fashion industry. They are. And this is no
[05:23:58] different than Palantir coming out with chore quotes, okay? This is no different than all
[05:24:05] these other companies that are engaging in a billion different unethical endeavors trying
[05:24:10] to engage in taste washing, okay? They are trying to do PR to make it seem like they
[05:24:16] have taste. They are trying to buy taste. Now, of course, the Bezos, they can't actually
[05:24:21] buy taste. They look like crazy people on the fucking runway when they go through the Met
[05:24:26] gala as opposed to everybody else. But that is exactly what it is. Look at us. We are
[05:24:35] funding the arts. Look at us. We are cultural taste makers. That's the whole point. That's
[05:24:42] exactly what they're trying to do. It's already backfired on them though. It's already backfired
[05:24:48] on them because there's a bunch of high-profile guests that didn't want to be associated with
[05:24:52] this event this year specifically because the Bezos couple is, you know, in charge of it.
[05:25:15] Anyway,
[05:25:18] Elon Musk's platform, although I would note that we're all participating on Elon Musk's platform,
[05:25:21] So I see some hypocrisy among those criticism at Gabba won't deactivate their accounts. That's a bad argument
[05:25:26] You can like that's crazy
[05:25:30] That's a bad argument one is the ownership over an entire fucking
[05:25:35] The media platform that people use to communicate with one another the other ones the Met Gala
[05:25:39] But I also I even though I am in agreement with the overall point that he's making about the Met Gala
[05:25:44] That's a silly comparison to make anyway, but I also think we can tax the rich in courage in the donate the public cause including
[05:25:49] institution like the MAG, given my interest, I also think we should take fashion and clothing
[05:25:52] more seriously. Thankfully, some real researchers and academics are making headway in that regard.
[05:26:10] Politicization of aesthetics, the other side of Benjamin's aestheticization of politics
[05:26:15] This is totalitarian funk being carried from some of the AES states.
[05:26:22] We can take plenty of lessons from the AES, rejecting art and travel, blanket it as tourism.
[05:26:27] R2 we should not.
[05:26:30] That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and you know it.
[05:26:36] Women architects exist.
[05:26:37] It's not something that's exclusive to men and most fashion people, especially for women's
[05:26:41] clothes.
[05:26:42] at lingerie or shoes or men, the difference is housing over clothes. We used to live in
[05:26:46] caves before we covered ourselves in animal hides and leaves. What are you saying? Brother,
[05:26:55] fashion is seen as a more feminine interest, whereas architecture is seen as a more masculine
[05:27:00] interest is what the argument that he was presenting. But that's not even like the main
[05:27:04] point here. The main point is, as you're also leaning into art and clothing, clothing is seen
[05:27:10] seen as frivolous. That's it. Fashion and clothing is seen as fucking frivolous. It's
[05:27:18] not seen as like an important part of artistic expression. It's seen as totally secondary.
[05:27:24] It's seen as incosquential. It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant. A lot of people can just
[05:27:28] like cast it aside. And that's the reason why a lot of people get mad at this shit,
[05:27:32] rather than any of the other gross displays of wealth and abundance
[05:27:43] uh...
[05:27:44] no frivolous clothing is seen as frivolous all my god
[05:27:48] all my god all my god
[05:28:02] Brother, what the fuck are you doing? Stop asking me which district I live in, okay?
[05:28:10] The other chatter. Who keeps going, hey, I just got my ballot. I think I'm your neighbor.
[05:28:15] Like, okay, dude, what the fuck's wrong with you?
[05:28:21] What is happening today?
[05:28:32] What is wrong with chat today? It took a day off usually when I take a
[05:28:40] Usually when I take one day off
[05:28:43] Chatters go crazy because they didn't get like
[05:28:46] enough
[05:28:47] They didn't get enough attention yesterday
[05:28:51] Because they didn't get like sufficient attention they crave it
[05:28:56] For the for the entire day when I'm back you this usually I mean you guys probably haven't encountered it because I never
[05:29:02] really take days off, but that's what it is. Also, this, as far as the MacGow controversy
[05:29:09] concerns Jeff Bezos and Lawrence Sanchez, Obscene Wealth is really secondary to their
[05:29:12] generational lack of coolness. Sorry, losers, we can't buy swagger, good taste, your party
[05:29:16] sucks.
[05:29:19] Anyway, this is why I rarely ever discuss, this is why I rarely ever discuss art or not
[05:29:35] art but specifically fashion because the overwhelming majority of people don't give
[05:29:41] a fuck about fashion so they can easily disparage it and they can just say it's not real art
[05:29:45] who gives a fuck, you're being stupid.
[05:29:48] Uh, whereas like if I were to say that about anime, people will be like,
[05:29:51] how dare you fucking say that I'll kill you.
[05:29:54] Or if I were to say that about video games, it'd be like, what?
[05:29:56] No, I care about that.
[05:29:57] So why would you shit on that?
[05:30:00] Okay.
[05:30:02] That's what it is.
[05:30:04] What is this left-wing satire is structurally impossible.
[05:30:06] Do you hear yourself?
[05:30:08] The problem with the onions takeover infowars that left-wing satire is structurally
[05:30:12] impossible.
[05:30:13] What?
[05:30:15] God, right-wingers are so stupid.
[05:30:20] This guy is still trying to be an intellectual right-winger at a time when the right has
[05:30:25] gotten dumber than ever before.
[05:30:29] Anyway.
[05:30:32] News.
[05:30:35] Trump offered John Federman a full endorsement in financial backing to switch parties.
[05:30:38] The GOP senators quietly court him.
[05:30:40] Sider say ties with Dave McCormick and Katie Britt could drive a potential flip.
[05:30:46] I mean what more do you... yeah he is already a Republican.
[05:31:00] US got a ship through the Strait.
[05:31:03] US military escort US flag Car Carrier aligns Fairfax out of the Persian Gulf on May 4th
[05:31:07] under project freedom.
[05:31:10] The data shipping company Maresk confirms that one of its ships has successfully managed
[05:31:14] to leave the Strait of Hormuz escorted by the US Navy.
[05:31:16] Marking the first successful transit to the Strait of Hormuz under the operation, data
[05:31:19] shipping giant Maresk said the vessel had been stranded since the war began in February
[05:31:23] and confirmed all crew were safe and unharmed.
[05:31:25] The company said it was recently contacted by the US military which offered escorted
[05:31:28] passage, and the ship exited the Gulf under US protection on Monday after coordination
[05:31:32] with Maresk leadership.
[05:31:33] US Central Command said two merchant vessels had transited the Strait on Monday, at least
[05:31:37] This one more US flag vessel is still stuck west of the Strait according to Reuters.
[05:31:42] Stop sending me this Tucker Carlson video, I promise you I'm not going to watch it.
[05:31:45] Take 30 seconds off.
[05:31:49] You cannot educate people on class consciousness and then complain when people don't like
[05:31:53] something that is obviously not a working class characteristic fashion is rich people
[05:31:57] seeing making it make it relevant to the working class and then we can talk no this
[05:32:01] is just literally no you're just wrong you're fucking wrong.
[05:32:07] Okay? Artisan hands touch every garment that is produced. That's number one. Okay?
[05:32:12] There's not a single thing that is designed at the Mac Gala
[05:32:17] and worn by all these obscenely wealthy people that hasn't had workers work on it. Okay? That's number one. Number two
[05:32:26] there is a very long history of
[05:32:29] of artistic expression in the form of fashion within the worker side of things as well.
[05:32:35] I'm currently literally wearing a fucking Carhartt shirt, for example. What the fuck do you think that is?
[05:32:41] Okay.
[05:32:48] The idea that like the idea that
[05:32:52] that that fashion is not like a working-class thing at all is unbelievably stupid.
[05:32:59] It's not true.
[05:33:06] Expensive fashion is not art.
[05:33:07] Yes, it is.
[05:33:08] Yes, it is.
[05:33:09] Yes, it is.
[05:33:10] Oh.
[05:33:11] Zoran State.
[05:33:12] Work of art, turning the lens on the workers who power fashion.
[05:33:21] Well, the world's eyes are on fashion's biggest night.
[05:33:23] We're turning ours on the garment retail and warehouse workers who cooked the industry
[05:33:26] running.
[05:33:27] Love found on the picket line to the free tailoring school out of a Brooklyn basement meet the New Yorkers who made it all possible
[05:33:32] This is awesome. You knew work, especially garment workers built this country's is Christopher Anderson Sonia Castrell on
[05:33:40] Ernestine gay
[05:33:46] This dope I'm glad that he did this is cool. He also refused to go to the Met Gala pretty sure he was invited and he said he didn't want to go
[05:33:57] Do these idiots think movies aren't arson studio films of bunches of hundreds of millions
[05:34:07] of dollars?
[05:34:08] No, they consume movies and they like movies.
[05:34:11] That's what it is.
[05:34:13] I've tried to explain this to people.
[05:34:16] That's literally all this is, is because you watch movies and you like movies, but you
[05:34:20] look down on fashion because you don't give a fuck about it.
[05:34:23] That's literally all it is.
[05:34:27] It's that simple, but people don't ever want to come to that recognition.
[05:34:36] They want to think that they have an ethical calculation that they're making here.
[05:34:41] Yeah, they do not care about fashion.
[05:34:44] This is always what happens whenever fashion gets brought up in this community.
[05:34:48] Hell of a chop, motherfuckers, in the chat.
[05:34:50] Okay, now they're going to get even more mad.
[05:34:55] This is art, just like what you see the extravagance that you see in Megala is also art.
[05:35:17] I think you're purposely being obtuse now.
[05:35:19] No, I'm not.
[05:35:22] I'm not.
[05:35:23] consistently held position that I refuse to entertain because chat gets in their
[05:35:28] feelings every time I talk about it. I don't listen to music. Imagine if I ran
[05:35:33] around saying music is fucking counter-revolutionaries, bourgeois decadence,
[05:35:37] all these artists are making millions of dollars, all these record labels are
[05:35:41] making billions of dollars to do what? Like that would be insane right? You
[05:35:48] would look at me like I'm an insane person just because I don't like it
[05:35:51] doesn't mean I can't comprehend that it's a profoundly important part of artistic expression
[05:35:58] and it plays a formative role in people's development and the way they feel things.
[05:36:04] Why don't you take it as excessive?
[05:36:06] Dude, what the fuck are you saying?
[05:36:10] Why do you think it's $100,000 so they can do a hoity-toity exclusive event?
[05:36:14] It's so that they get fundraised for the fucking costume institute.
[05:36:17] I literally just explained it to you.
[05:36:18] fundraiser in a normal functioning society in a perfect society it wouldn't
[05:36:25] be but still how can I get into it oh my god you don't have to I don't even like
[05:36:31] the optics of it but it's really fucking unbearable when people just make this
[05:36:35] this this argument over and over again I get it it's art okay well guess what you
[05:36:42] don't actually have to go to the Met Gala you don't go to the Met Gala at all
[05:36:45] As a matter of fact, you know where you go to the Met which is free or you pay as much as you want to
[05:36:52] Okay to get in that's what you do part of that is
[05:36:57] Part of that upkeep is paid for by the fucking Met Gala at least for the costume Institute
[05:37:04] Do you understand
[05:37:15] Okay, yes, sir. Shake me. There you go.
[05:37:27] Why don't the Mets fund their own Gala? How about the Mets fund their way to a f***ing
[05:37:37] dub for once. It is now 2026. So we're still on Gucci shirt discourse. Yes, always.
[05:37:50] They have a recommended donation, but admission is free. Yes.
[05:38:00] Are people just mad now because Bezos bought his chair position? Yes. That's a perfectly valid
[05:38:05] thing to criticize, by the way. Okay? That makes sense. I'm with you. That's my criticism as well.
[05:38:14] Okay? Now, now we're cooking. If we want to talk about that, then yeah, I'm there with you. Okay?
[05:38:19] But if you're going to be like, wow, what the fuck are these guys doing? Fuck these people. It's just
[05:38:23] like whatever. You're talking to
[05:38:34] terminally online people about fashion. I
[05:38:36] know I know it always it always turns
[05:38:40] into just this this endless bag and for
[05:38:44] this endless fucking argument.
[05:38:48] Anyway, Queen Kwan's take, this Amazon as Prime Dress, well, I am once again begging
[05:39:08] chat to read about the Zoot Suit Riots and tell me fashion has nothing to do with marginalization.
[05:39:14] I love Zoot Suits.
[05:39:15] I still have yet to get a Zoot suit, but I really want one.
[05:39:19] They're so sick.
[05:39:23] Yes, I've covered it before.
[05:39:25] I probably, because of another one of these, um, I have probably, uh,
[05:39:35] argued with chat and explained Zoot suits, uh, in one of these tangents about art.
[05:39:45] It's one of these rants. Yes, I have this conversation once a year whenever the Maggala happens and I have to explain to you that like
[05:39:55] Well, yes, it's an extravagant event and it's it looks gross and it's basically fucking
[05:40:03] It basically looks like the fucking hunger games
[05:40:06] at the end of the day fashion is a profoundly important part of artistic expression and
[05:40:12] And and this is the Met Gala is down is done specifically to fundraise for the costume Institute
[05:40:22] It that's the reason why it's so expensive
[05:40:28] Now
[05:40:38] Still way below music and movies though, sorry
[05:40:42] Dude, you should unironically watch the devil wears Prada. Okay?
[05:40:47] Because this is such an idiotic take because I know for a fact that you're wearing clothes right now
[05:40:53] Okay, you are literally currently wearing clothes. Okay, someone design those clothes
[05:40:58] The reason why you're wearing those clothes because some people at a certain point in time made the decision to
[05:41:05] Advance fashion in that in that regard. Okay
[05:41:08] just just roll the fucking clip let's just roll the devil wars product clip
[05:41:14] devil wars product who just came out I'm wearing a barrel in braces
[05:41:22] here
[05:41:32] no
[05:41:35] and I've seen all the
[05:41:37] before
[05:41:39] by the way, Meryl Streep is not attending this year
[05:41:42] we have some right here and
[05:41:45] watch this
[05:41:48] and I think it can be very interesting
[05:41:51] No, I just... It's just baffling to me.
[05:41:54] Why is it so impossible to put together a decent run-through?
[05:41:57] You people have had hours and hours to prepare.
[05:42:00] It's just so confusing to me.
[05:42:02] Where are the advertisers?
[05:42:04] We have some pieces from Banana Repo.
[05:42:06] Well, we need more, don't we? Oh, this is...
[05:42:09] This might be... What do you think?
[05:42:11] Yeah. Well, you know me.
[05:42:13] Give me a full ballerina skirt and a hint of saloon, and I'm on board.
[05:42:16] But do you think it's too much like...
[05:42:18] Like a liqueur from July? I thought that, but no.
[05:42:21] not with the right accessories. It should work.
[05:42:23] Where are the belts for this, uh, why is no one ready?
[05:42:28] Here.
[05:42:29] It's a tough call.
[05:42:31] They're so different.
[05:42:33] Mm.
[05:42:39] Something funny?
[05:42:44] No.
[05:42:45] No, no, no.
[05:42:46] Nothing's, you know, it's just that both those belts
[05:42:50] It's exactly the same to me, you know, I'm still learning about this stuff and...
[05:42:55] This stuff?
[05:42:59] Oh, okay, I see, you think this has nothing to do with you.
[05:43:05] You go to your closet and you select, I don't know, that lumpy blue sweater, for instance,
[05:43:12] because you're trying to tell the world that you take yourself too seriously to care about
[05:43:16] what you put on your back, but what you don't know is that that sweater is not just blue.
[05:43:21] It's not turquoise. It's not lapis. It's actually cerulean.
[05:43:25] And you're also blithely unaware of the fact that in 2002 Oscar de la Renta did a collection
[05:43:31] of cerulean gowns. And then I think it was Yves Saint Laurent, wasn't it, who showed
[05:43:35] cerulean military jackets? I think we need a jacket here.
[05:43:39] And then cerulean quickly showed up in the collections of eight different designers.
[05:43:43] I run it filtered down through the department stores
[05:43:46] and then trickled on down into some tragic casual corner
[05:43:51] where you know that fished it out of some clearance bin.
[05:43:54] However, that blue represents millions of dollars
[05:43:57] and countless jobs.
[05:43:59] And it's sort of comical how you think that you've made a choice
[05:44:02] that exempts you from the fashion industry
[05:44:04] when, in fact, you're wearing a sweater
[05:44:07] that was selected for you by the people in this room.
[05:44:11] from a pile of stuff
[05:44:18] Hassan is the Prada devil in this scenario
[05:44:22] Lady is just clothes quit sniffing your own farts. See, this is what I mean. This is what I fucking mean
[05:44:30] Isn't she pretentious stem lord? Oh my god. Oh my god. She's right. Okay
[05:44:36] Also that yeah, that that ensemble is hideous, but that's besides the point
[05:44:41] I'm sure that was popping in 2006 when this movie came out, but
[05:44:48] God chatter didn't get the point every single fucking thing they are wearing including this okay including this fit
[05:44:56] It comes from decisions that that fashion designers made many decades ago. Okay
[05:45:02] So even if you are just like, oh, whatever, I'm just picking this shit up down to the
[05:45:08] fact that even T-shirts exist down to the fact that cargo shorts exist dad shoes, all
[05:45:14] of that, all of that had a designer make it and then it fell out of favor and it made
[05:45:27] it's way into a fucking bargain bin at Ross Dress for less where you picked it up.
[05:45:48] That's it.
[05:45:49] Yeah dude without fashion designers the invent clothes would all be naked.
[05:45:53] Oh my god.
[05:45:54] Oh my god.
[05:45:56] Oh my God.
[05:46:02] I swear to God, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
[05:46:05] It's not gonna happen.
[05:46:08] It's never gonna happen, it's never gonna happen.
[05:46:10] There's just gonna be people that will just,
[05:46:13] their inability to understand this concept is,
[05:46:18] we're never gonna get it across, I think.
[05:46:23] We're outnumbered, I fear, yes, that's why I don't talk
[05:46:25] about it in this fucking community, okay? And for the record, the white t-shirt is one of
[05:46:31] the hardest and most labor-intensive piece of clothing in the manufacturer. Yes, we are
[05:46:40] outnumbered. Many of you, God, we're outnumbered. And honestly, honestly, you guys love AI art,
[05:46:47] I think that's what it is. I'm shocked that there are so many people who hate AI art in
[05:46:53] this community, but when it comes to fashion, they're like, what? I don't
[05:46:56] understand. I don't understand.
[05:47:02] This is how Republicans talk about modern art. Yeah. No, literally.
[05:47:10] It's so funny.
[05:47:23] No, they love dogs playing cards that pictures. Yeah, chatters. Look at chatters. Look at Patrick
[05:47:30] bet David's beautiful portrait of himself alongside, you know, Martin Luther King and
[05:47:36] Einstein and shit and go, that's peak art. That's, that's what I'm talking about.
[05:47:43] I'm fucking talking about dude. That's that's it
[05:48:02] But she's wrong though the job she's talking about is just third world third world exploitation
[05:48:07] I get the value of fashion as an aren't I hate how exploitative this bullshit is though the faulty capitalism not the art
[05:48:12] It's not that hard
[05:48:16] Don't even get me started on this side of the fucking conversation many of the fucking designers that are
[05:48:22] Many of the fashion houses that are actually the most expensive
[05:48:26] pieces of clothing
[05:48:28] Unironically don't rely as much on third world exploitation as the fucking forever 21s jeans that you purchase that you think are more ethical
[05:48:35] And that's before we even talk about fast fashion and its impact on the environment
[05:48:40] Okay. All the cheap clothing that you purchase as opposed to articles of clothing that require
[05:48:48] like craftsmanship, artisanship that is made in, made in, you know, European fashion houses,
[05:48:57] those are actually unironically more ethical if you want to think about it that way. But that's
[05:49:03] another conversation we're not going to get into. This is going to really piss off people. Okay.
[05:49:07] Okay. Oh my God.
[05:49:18] Lamau, you're so wrong. Okay.
[05:49:24] Lamau, I'm so wrong. No, you're right.
[05:49:26] The Amazon basics t-shirt that you purchased was made in the most ethical manner by by
[05:49:33] bungalow-dishy child labor as opposed to you know the the fucking I don't know
[05:49:40] Dolce and Gabana tailored suit or whatever
[05:49:44] I'm not sure what's going on.
[05:49:54] Can we go back to talking about how fucked up Lawrence Sanchez faces?
[05:49:58] Wait, what the fuck? Sabrina Carpenter.
[05:50:00] Why is this? Sabrina Carpenter attends the 2026 Met Gala.
[05:50:05] That's not Sabrina Carpenter.
[05:50:10] So, y'all think all black people look like shaking my head.
[05:50:17] Oh, that's funny.
[05:50:22] That's a great response.
[05:50:23] Okay, Twitter still got it sometimes.
[05:50:29] for you're digging yourself deeper with that argument that's not a good thing which is
[05:50:43] even worse because that means the only way to get ethical clothes is to spend a shit
[05:50:46] ton of money that's not a good thing when did I say that's a good thing point to me
[05:50:50] when I said that's a good thing when have I ever said that when have I ever said that
[05:50:58] I didn't. You're inventing things.
[05:51:14] The only ethical source of,
[05:51:16] of garments that you could purchase come from ideology.shop union made American
[05:51:22] made. Okay. You are implying,
[05:51:26] I'm implying that that's a good thing. That's what you
[05:51:31] That that's what I'm implying or perhaps
[05:51:35] No, we were making it seem like it's more ethical to buy expensive clothes
[05:51:39] No, the point I'm making is that a lot of people
[05:51:43] Yell about expensive fashion houses and shit like that
[05:51:48] okay
[05:51:50] Not realizing that like in the conversation of of ethical sourcing or in the conversation of ethical
[05:51:56] garment manufacturing. The reality of the matter is, if there's a, if there's a
[05:52:01] spectrum of, of more ethical production, yes, the wealthier, the, the, the more
[05:52:09] expensive fashion houses are actually utilizing less sweatshops and less
[05:52:15] slave labor. Okay. The same arguments can be made for crunch in game dev or
[05:52:21] exploitation of animators for anime. The only difference is these shutters don't
[05:52:24] I don't care about fashion.
[05:52:32] Bro-ski, I know I own some. See, this is a guy that's trying to also subtly flex. Yo, I got designer.
[05:52:38] All this Rick on me like I'm mortified.
[05:52:45] Eileen Gou at the 20-26 Megala.
[05:52:50] Wait, what the fuck? She got bubbles on it?
[05:52:54] Unmod me.
[05:52:59] Yeah.
[05:53:02] Hello, Mr. Piker. It has come to our attention that you have dispatched your employer, Mr. Bezos, regarding his esteem position with the Met Gala. This comes directly after you have been severely time off task.
[05:53:14] Furthermore, you have now disparaged the outstanding quality of our Amazon Basics t-shirts.
[05:53:19] Your punishment is currently being determined.
[05:53:21] Please stand by.
[05:53:37] I'll care about fashion once all clothing manufacturing is publicly owned.
[05:53:41] Again, I promise you, you don't make this kind of...
[05:53:44] you don't make this ethical consideration for shit, you do enjoy.
[05:53:49] You don't say this about video games, even though crunch exists,
[05:53:53] even though plenty of developers work long and hard to make the video games
[05:53:57] that you enjoy, and then they get fired. Okay.
[05:54:01] Even after record high profits are earned for the company and you don't give a shit
[05:54:05] about that because you enjoy video games. Okay.
[05:54:08] And the same thing goes for sports. The same thing goes for, uh,
[05:54:13] music, the same thing happens in animation, right? When you just like the output, you
[05:54:20] like the product, so you don't really make these sorts of like broad sweeping ethical
[05:54:25] considerations. That's all it is. Okay, you're just anti-fashion. And whenever I say that,
[05:54:32] whenever I say that, people go, no, no, no, you don't understand. I just have the ethical
[05:54:39] consideration just for fashion, okay? For nothing else. Well, that's my point.
[05:54:48] It's much easier for people to say that about fashion, though, because most people in this
[05:54:52] community at least don't give a fuck about it. Video games aren't $100,000. What are you talking about?
[05:55:09] I'm going to lose my mind. What article of clothing is $100,000 chatter? The mag gala
[05:55:17] is $100,000 per plate because it's a fundraiser for the costume Institute, which you can go
[05:55:24] and look at the costumes for $0. As a matter of fact, you don't have to pay any money to
[05:55:29] go see the costumes.
[05:55:31] Part of that is because the upkeep is paid for with the tickets at this fundraiser. It's
[05:55:36] It's called a fundraiser, okay?
[05:55:38] It's called a fundraiser.
[05:55:39] I don't know if you know what a fundraiser is.
[05:55:41] Do you know what a fundraiser is?
[05:55:43] When they raise funds, okay?
[05:55:45] When they raise funds for a public good, like a museum.
[05:55:49] This is how it's done.
[05:55:55] This is, I totally get how the Red Guards operated.
[05:55:58] Like this is what happens.
[05:56:01] I'm seeing it.
[05:56:04] I understand the cultural revolution.
[05:56:06] I totally understand how you could just like put up
[05:56:09] in the town square, just like all artisans
[05:56:12] and be like, this is counter-revolutionary.
[05:56:15] Artists counter-revolutionary.
[05:56:16] I don't like science.
[05:56:18] My science teacher is engaging in a Western pervertry
[05:56:22] and counter-revolutionary behavior.
[05:56:25] I'm gonna flog you now.
[05:56:27] I'm gonna get all the other youths in the town
[05:56:31] to flog the shit out of you.
[05:56:33] That's literally what this is.
[05:56:37] It's just like in different villages, in different villages, motherfuckers are like,
[05:56:41] I hate math. I'm going to fucking kill my math teacher. Okay.
[05:56:45] It's time for a flogging. Everybody. Yeah.
[05:56:48] Everybody turns into the fucking pull pot when it comes to fashion.
[05:56:52] It's crazy. Also, these guys always look at the retail price of the most expensive
[05:56:55] shit. If you pay full price for designer brands to sell or use your dumb ass.
[05:56:59] Yes.
[05:57:00] You can also thrift like this this this that you guys remember this morning when you guys were like wow
[05:57:08] That's a really cool jacket, right? You're wearing this really cool jacket
[05:57:12] This jacket is is however you say the brand what is it aro posto?
[05:57:17] I don't know. It's like one of those Abercrombie and Fitch ass fucking
[05:57:21] Jackets okay, it's not expensive at all as a matter of fact
[05:57:25] I also thrifted this many many years ago, and I've worn it for almost I've worn it for longer than a decade
[05:57:30] Most of the clothes that I wear I wear for longer than a fucking decade. Okay?
[05:57:37] You don't always have to buy expensive shit
[05:57:44] But you can also understand that this design this design
[05:57:49] somewhere along the way a designer made this design okay they put a lot of love
[05:57:57] into it and then it was mass produced by aero postal is that how you say it
[05:58:04] Arapostal.
[05:58:21] I don't like the Macgallagher.
[05:58:22] I like fashion is like saying, you don't like foie gras.
[05:58:24] You must not like food is not honest.
[05:58:28] What?
[05:58:29] No, because you also fundamentally misunderstand why the Macgallagher
[05:58:34] It exists. Okay.
[05:58:38] It's not less ethical in the, in the, in the, you know, costumes that they design and shit as opposed to like any other form of art.
[05:58:53] It exists to flex on the poor. I don't think so, but I do understand why people think this way.
[05:58:59] Aero Postal? Is that how you say it? People differentiate between white collar, game
[05:59:10] dev and blue collar clothes making job exploitation.
[05:59:24] I love that this is where the chat draws a line and shows you have many true revolutionaries
[05:59:28] in here shut the fuck up except for your ring that cost 3.8 million yes my 3.8
[05:59:34] million dollar rings
[05:59:42] a high budget movie doesn't make a movie more valuable having an expensive
[05:59:45] canvas doesn't increases value not saying it's not art almost everything on
[05:59:49] this planet that is made by humans of artistic value the issue is when
[05:59:52] commercial value out ways the artistic value by your logical rich person
[05:59:56] showing up the expensive car collection is actually an art show it can be and it
[05:59:59] is as a matter of fact have you gone to the fucking Peterson automobile museum
[06:00:03] that's literally what this is so yes your argument is also stupid it quite
[06:00:07] literally can be and it quite literally is as a matter of fact no don't put an
[06:00:14] emote mode I it's fine we can have this conversation is so good yeah wait till
[06:00:21] you find out about car shows, man.
[06:00:34] Onokiai at the Met Gala, oh my god.
[06:00:42] It's pretty sick.
[06:00:44] Fashion, take talk.
[06:00:47] So three cultures in three different parts of the world come
[06:00:49] up with three wildly different solutions for hot climates.
[06:00:53] So in the Arabian Peninsula, which is today's Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bedouins lived in the desert
[06:00:57] and up until the 10th century, they used mostly wool.
[06:01:00] And the choice of wool is due to a combination of various factors.
[06:01:03] They lived in the desert and it's very hot.
[06:01:05] I love this guy, but I always feel betrayed by the end of the video because he's usually
[06:01:09] promoting some new design that he has.
[06:01:13] But I still watch his videos regardless.
[06:01:15] Okay?
[06:01:16] He always does this thing where he'll like go through this
[06:01:21] Incredible story about like
[06:01:23] Workwear, you know chore shirts, right the history of chore shirts
[06:01:28] And it'll be like and this is why we made a chore shirt and I'm like damn man
[06:01:32] It's a fucking ad for something that you made yourself. I mean, it's fine. Your designs are cool, too, but like
[06:01:39] It's just it just I don't know sits with me weirdly
[06:01:43] Let him plug his stuff man. Yeah, he does. He's dry climate and agriculture growing cotton
[06:01:49] Which is a very thirsty crop was largely impossible
[06:01:52] It needed to be traded or imported so they largely worked with what was available to them and that was wool and that was sourced from the
[06:01:58] Sheep and the goats that traveled with them and those animals were adapted to live in the harsh desert climate and the hair and wool
[06:02:03] Could be collected every year without killing the animal and wool is an effective material
[06:02:07] But wool is really good at temperature regulation
[06:02:09] But the problem is compared to other fibers wolves relatively heavy
[06:02:11] So you need to get around that problem.
[06:02:13] So they designed really oversized, loose-fitting garments,
[06:02:16] something like the phobe, like the Dish Dasha.
[06:02:18] But the idea is that these clothes don't sit close to the skin,
[06:02:21] but they create an air barrier.
[06:02:22] You'll notice a lot of these photos have these black robes in the desert.
[06:02:25] That's really counterintuitive because you would think that black would be worse for radiation.
[06:02:29] But there's a really interesting little experiment published in Nature in 1980,
[06:02:32] which compared white robes and black robes and Bedouins.
[06:02:34] And they found that the color of the robe didn't really matter.
[06:02:36] Because the robes were so flowy, it created too much of an air gap for there to be any difference
[06:02:41] to the skin temperature, and all that space allows for air flow, which means that the
[06:02:44] rows and cells can be black, can be white, it didn't really matter to the skin below.
[06:02:47] So the geography in the culture influences the fiber, the fiber influences the shape,
[06:02:51] and the combination of the fiber and the shape gives you the design.
[06:02:54] Now the second culture is Japan. And Japan is a very different warm climate. It's not dry heat,
[06:02:58] but an oppressive sort of humidity. And very much like the Bedouins, there's a period of time in
[06:03:01] Japan where cotton was not widespread, and the principal summer fibers were linen or ramy.
[06:03:06] Ramy is not very popular now because it's quite labor-intensive to extract. It's a
[06:03:09] bast fiber, which is from the stalk of the plant, and it's really highly breathable,
[06:03:13] but you have to weave it in a certain way. And their solution was not to create volume,
[06:03:17] but to create airflow through weaving. So you can see, and you can see through these summer
[06:03:21] kimonos, and that requires advanced craftsmanship in weaving techniques. The clothing could sit
[06:03:26] a little bit closer to the body because you still had ventilation. And the third culture is India.
[06:03:30] India's relationship with cotton goes back 5000 years. And although millennia, they have developed
[06:03:34] mastery over spinning, over weaving. And the popular story is that you could pull an entire
[06:03:38] garment through a ring, because the fabric was so thin and so fine. And their use of
[06:03:41] cotton really highlights the natural properties of what it's really good at. It's super soft,
[06:03:45] it's really light. So their garments like the Doty, like the Saria, their big sheets
[06:03:49] of cotton that are folded and layered, they're dynamic, they have drape, they allow for certain
[06:03:53] movement and ventilation. So anyway, fashion isn't always just aesthetic. Within a traditional
[06:03:58] garment, you get an insight into the geography, you get insight into the culture, you get
[06:04:01] insight into technology, and learning all this stuff has influenced the way that we
[06:04:05] So this, the shirt I'm wearing now is a woven shirt.
[06:04:08] See, I told you, I told you, he always he will give you like the longest fucking
[06:04:16] most thoughtful spiel about the history of of certain kinds of garments
[06:04:23] and how they've evolved.
[06:04:25] And then, boom.
[06:04:26] And this is exactly why I made this airy shirt, this breedable shirt.
[06:04:30] Or besides to laugh at ventilation, this is a fabric that's woven just for us.
[06:04:36] It has this incredible open weave.
[06:04:38] It's made from 100% cotton, and because of the ventilation and because of the open weave,
[06:04:41] we could make it in both an undyed as well as in a black.
[06:04:44] And that's largely the idea behind all of this study that hopefully leads to somewhere,
[06:04:47] hopefully leads to some research and development of our stuff.
[06:04:50] Although to be honest, it's pretty fun to do anyway as part of my job.
[06:04:52] So three cultures and three different parts of the world.
[06:04:56] Yeah. Let him get his bag. Chatters the washes and say, this bourgeois propaganda while wearing
[06:05:08] their Gildan Genshin Impact T. Yeah. Look at that bunny at the Met. Sabrina Carpenter's
[06:05:22] Entire Met Galafit is made of film.
[06:05:26] What the fuck?
[06:05:30] That's gotta be hella uncomfortable now.
[06:05:41] Do you see this old fart chud loser ass?
[06:05:45] What the fuck?
[06:05:49] Wait, what do we do?
[06:05:50] Is there, do people hate Heidi Klum?
[06:05:52] I mean, this is kind of cool.
[06:06:01] Why'd you say old chud loser ass?
[06:06:05] This is kind of dope.
[06:06:08] Check Rachel Zegler's fit.
[06:06:15] It's cool.
[06:06:18] He's always doing too much more of a Halloween costume
[06:06:20] than fashion.
[06:06:22] bad boney what the fuck wait what what
[06:06:43] I need that grandpa dick
[06:06:53] What the hell is wrong with people man
[06:07:06] Explain this one fashion boy, man, I don't fucking understand it
[06:07:10] bad bunny is doing a call out to the Ayatollah. Somehow still relevant? What does this have
[06:07:23] to do with anything? The US is blockading Cuba and I'm bringing them humanitarian aid. Why
[06:07:30] Why are you wearing clothes?
[06:07:34] Rosa Hassan Dickrider.
[06:07:46] Bad Bunny dresses an older version of himself like an elegant version of Johnny Knoxville's
[06:07:50] gagging jackass.
[06:07:51] Yeah, I don't know what he was doing with this.
[06:07:56] I'm gonna be honest with you.
[06:07:57] I already saw chase infinity
[06:08:00] He already he talks about it here, and you know that bad bunny Benito is my favorite of all time
[06:08:07] Come on stop and eat the little man can pass. We're good. We're good. We're good
[06:08:12] Okay, Benito tell me how wait. He's doing a voice to you. How do you do this?
[06:08:17] How do you just keep upping it every single year? I?
[06:08:21] Don't know is is
[06:08:23] getting part of my life always
[06:08:25] I always try to do something different and this day of the mat is a perfect day for you.
[06:08:35] Explore and be creative and express yourself in a different way.
[06:08:43] So that's what I'm doing tonight and glad to be here with you and everyone here.
[06:08:50] Benito, how many hours to do this?
[06:08:54] How many hours?
[06:08:56] 53 years.
[06:08:58] Exactly, 53 years.
[06:09:00] So, it took a little bit, but it worth it.
[06:09:03] I hope it look good.
[06:09:06] Do I look good?
[06:09:07] You look great.
[06:09:08] Thank you.
[06:09:08] You look perfect.
[06:09:09] Thank you.
[06:09:09] Benito, gracias para todo.
[06:09:11] Gracias a ustedes siempre.
[06:09:12] Of course.
[06:09:14] He on them Chinese peptides?
[06:09:16] Yeah, they get...
[06:09:17] He on them peptides that make you old.
[06:09:20] he's coming out as old spooky gala Jordan Roth on his way to the Met Gala
[06:09:28] what the fuck that's kind of cool too
[06:09:34] You are illustrating it in the middle.
[06:09:37] Thank you.
[06:09:38] Thank you.
[06:09:39] We have the math.
[06:09:40] I'm sure.
[06:09:41] I'm sure.
[06:09:42] I'm sure.
[06:09:43] Bro, how do you even sit in the car?
[06:09:47] How do you sit in the car with that?
[06:09:56] This year's theme is costume?
[06:09:58] Yeah, that's an enemy stand user.
[06:10:03] like does she she's getting in that van like does she just stand up the whole
[06:10:15] time how does that work would you rock this no this is such a crazy fit
[06:10:32] it.
[06:10:37] Hassan Abi head Odessa. Wait, why is she a Hassan Abi head?
[06:10:46] I mean, that's crazy. I mean, she looks good. What can I say?
[06:10:53] Damn. That's a great outfit. I think I don't know. I don't know
[06:10:58] what to say.
[06:11:02] You're so awkward.
[06:11:15] They assemble it out of the car and address the room off site silly, do they?
[06:11:27] That is this real Erica Kirk, the Capitalistic Widow, a new Eldering DLC boss fight?
[06:11:33] Come on.
[06:11:36] This is kind of a Hassan fit, finally a good menswear look, Karan Johar wearing custom
[06:11:45] Manish Malhotra outfit inspired by Raja Ravi, Warma's Art, the embroiderers look handmade.
[06:11:52] God damn.
[06:11:54] That's crazy
[06:11:59] This is fire
[06:12:04] Sarah Paulson calls that capitalism with her look
[06:12:16] What is this
[06:12:18] Guys stop asking me if I would rock this outfit the answer is no
[06:12:30] He got the that's the the fucking bull outfit
[06:12:36] Like he said what is it called the matador he's got the matador outfit is that what the automas used to wear no
[06:12:44] Looking like a goddamn matador. Okay, another great menswear look.
[06:12:53] Jeremy Poe wore an archival Vivian Westwood piece. She originally commissioned for Mr.
[06:13:00] Pearl in the 1990s. Pearls in varying colors and size were hand set and layered to achieve
[06:13:07] the look of a muscular body. God damn. What's up with this
[06:13:15] fit? He can't stand still. What's going on? Why are all the
[06:13:20] fucking why are all the photos blurry? He's too fast. Welcome
[06:13:36] back czar nicolas the second what the fuck is this robot butterfly dress
[06:13:58] You know my name custom moving Christian Siriano
[06:14:15] Man white people got to always be extra you know what I mean
[06:14:22] huh
[06:14:28] I'm not gonna lie. I love Janelle Manet, but this outfit is eh
[06:14:43] You might die when you see this do a leap up what
[06:14:47] Bro, this isn't even at the Met Gala. This is just
[06:14:51] This is just her walking with her booty cheeks out the fuck
[06:14:55] What the fuck?
[06:15:08] What the fuck?
[06:15:12] What is this? What does it have to do with anything?
[06:15:22] That's funny
[06:15:25] I bookmarked this. Okay. Y'all are pervs, dude. This is cool.
[06:15:48] crazy. Who's Gala and why are they dressing up as Power Ranger Villains meeting her?
[06:16:07] our story, Tammy's yacked, Philly's put on some muscle mass too, having your whole shit
[06:16:29] out is not an outfit lame, okay calm down, I hope you realize the people you are arguing
[06:16:35] Uh, with about fashion probably don't consider food art and have no qualms of the unethical nature of consuming meat in his current system
[06:16:43] Yeah, I don't want to get back into it, please can we just not do a leap at the gala fuck you
[06:16:49] I got fucking taken our off. Fuck you
[06:16:53] I got so excited I clicked on it without even looking at the goddamn without even looking at the fucking thumbnail goddamn it
[06:16:59] Fuck you
[06:17:01] Okay, fuck yourself. How about that fuck yourself? Are you excited? Are you happy you got it?
[06:17:06] You got me you hit me with a do a leap of Megala fit and I got excited. Oh wow
[06:17:13] Piece of shit
[06:17:19] We're doing Megala we're doing Megala
[06:17:21] it.
[06:17:22] Horny ass clicking on everything will do a leap a link.
[06:17:31] Okay, calm down.
[06:17:34] Aren't I ironically your best fit?
[06:17:35] Oh my god.
[06:17:37] Stop.
[06:17:39] The people of this show is debuting the costume institutes first parent in galleries, the
[06:17:54] exhibitions organized around thematic body types represent an art, often ones that are
[06:17:58] overlooked like aging, bad bunny and pregnant bodies and the universal body.
[06:18:06] Clavicular, I don't think Anna Wintour would ever allow Clavicular anywhere near this fucking event.
[06:18:11] Are you out of your mind? Her whole thing is like, she usually doesn't allow,
[06:18:18] she usually doesn't allow any, this is 2024, this is last year, or two years ago,
[06:18:28] which is fine, we can still look at it, but
[06:18:36] She
[06:18:42] Anna went or doesn't even allow like most online influencers anywhere near this fucking event like the only one that's allowed is
[06:18:50] Is is the chamber lane or whatever? What's it? What's the name?
[06:18:55] Of the girl we saw her earlier. She had actually a really good fit
[06:19:00] Usually they don't let any
[06:19:02] She the Emma Emma Chamberlain is like one of the few influencers that's like allowed anywhere near this fucking event
[06:19:16] No wisdom wisdom hasn't wisdom wasn't even
[06:19:20] allowed to go
[06:19:22] the
[06:19:23] Last year or the year before think they would invite you fuck. No. Are you kidding me?
[06:19:29] Plus do you think it's really worth it?
[06:19:32] Look, maybe a couple years ago, I
[06:19:35] Would have maybe a couple years ago. I would have entertained something like this or even like this is so sick
[06:19:42] And and you know what a cool opportunity. Are you out of your fucking mind now?
[06:19:47] You think now I would go to the Megala. Are you insane?
[06:19:51] Someone would kill me
[06:19:53] And it wouldn't even be like a right winger that would kill me for going to the mega be a fucking anarchist
[06:19:57] Are you out of your fucking mind dude dude people already?
[06:20:04] Sincerely believe that I went to the Met Gala and
[06:20:07] wore the make the rich pay shirt because someone many years ago photo shop me on
[06:20:14] That fucking dumb ass runway thing
[06:20:17] With the make the rich pay shirt and they literally will post it every year and people think I actually
[06:20:24] actually attend every year with that shirt on.
[06:20:38] Bro, I went to Cuba to deliver a humanitarian aid
[06:20:48] and to do some reporting about the conditions
[06:20:53] that we have subjected the Cubans to. And there was a three week long discourse around
[06:20:59] the price point that they assumed of the shirt that I was wearing. The glasses that I have
[06:21:08] on currently, my rings. Do you know what it would be like? Counterpoint, I saw you there
[06:21:22] with my own eyes.
[06:21:33] Coincidentally this popped up on my open TikTok.
[06:21:35] How conservatives co-opted the cowboy myth.
[06:21:37] Welcome to my series Fashion is Political, my name is Chelsea, I'm a journalist and fashion
[06:21:40] content creator.
[06:21:41] Today we're heading to the Bat-Dash-Shu Museum to check out their exhibit on the history
[06:21:44] of the cowboy boot.
[06:21:45] As you can see, I dressed accordingly.
[06:21:48] Nobody loves a cowboy boot more than a conservative politician on the campaign trail, both here
[06:21:51] in Canada and so to the border. And yeah, I'm thinking about that Christian on the court.
[06:21:55] A boot! She's a boot! Get her! I got a pee.
[06:21:59] Why do I love these wide open spaces? They remind me of why our forefathers came here.
[06:22:05] Not just for its beauty, but for the freedom only America provides.
[06:22:09] The cowboy myth represents individuality, self-reliance, national pride, work ethic,
[06:22:14] rugged masculinity, and overwhelmingly whiteness. The problem is that it's divorced from reality.
[06:22:19] Historically, a quarter to a third of cowboys were black, Mexican, or indigenous,
[06:22:23] and the original cowboy boot evolved to Mexican bequero riding traditions.
[06:22:26] The design was practical, tall shafts to protect riders' legs, angled heels for stability in the
[06:22:31] saddle, and fun fact, one early inspiration for the heel actually came from Persian cavalry riders,
[06:22:35] but you can see a reference here in the museum. So this isn't exactly a purely homegrown American
[06:22:40] invention, but Hollywood westerns in the 1930s and 40s turned the cowboy into a national myth.
[06:22:44] Cowboys became white, heroic, and patriotic, and the boot became a fashion symbol of that
[06:22:48] identity. Politicians have been tapping into that myth for decades. Ronald Reagan
[06:22:52] famously wore Western gear to project strength, self-reliance, and working-class
[06:22:55] relatability. Today, that same imagery is often used to signal nationalism and
[06:22:59] tough border politics in the US and increasingly in Western Canada. But black
[06:23:03] and Mexican communities are also actively reclaiming cowboy imagery, because
[06:23:06] the Wild West was never white, and the real cowboys who shaped America deserved
[06:23:11] to be remembered. How conservatives co-opted the cowboy myth? Welcome to my
[06:23:15] series fashion is political. My name is Chelsea. I'm a journalist and fashion
[06:23:18] content creator. Today we're heading to the Bath-Achoo Museum to check out their
[06:23:21] exhibit on the history of the cowboy boot. As you can see, I dressed accordingly.
[06:23:25] Again, I know, I know, I pissed, I pissed. Bro, this is last year, man. This is last
[06:23:34] year. I know. Damn, I've been here for over six years and I thought the pit was of
[06:23:41] the mat and people brought it up every year to rag on you. I didn't know it was
[06:23:45] photoshop resident union trucker you thought I went to the Met Gala wearing the fucking make the rich pay shirt actually
[06:23:53] God damn son. What the fuck?
[06:24:01] There's people in this chat that thought I went to the Met Gala ain't no fucking way
[06:24:11] You don't say it enough that you were wearing it for a friend yes
[06:24:15] Yes, it was merch that my fucking anarchist friend made, okay?
[06:24:21] I was modeling his merch, god damn it.
[06:24:26] It's not a new article.
[06:24:34] Your own fans, baiting your own fans into, yeah.
[06:24:45] Pfft.
[06:24:58] God damn it.
[06:25:00] the funniest part is one it's my it was my my friends design that I was fucking
[06:25:14] promoting for his merch and also I was broke as fuck back then I was broke as
[06:25:23] hell
[06:25:26] guaranteed unfollowed if you go to the magala yeah I'm not going to the magala
[06:25:30] Okay, there's no dude what on what planet do you think I would get fucking invited to the goddamn Met Gala?
[06:25:37] Oh wisdom was invited this year nice
[06:25:45] He looks great
[06:26:00] No.
[06:26:12] This is fire fit.
[06:26:15] She Tyler no.
[06:26:20] Breaking Met Gallinus.
[06:26:28] every year. Jason Derulo. No, but like, I'mma help spread that misinformation about you
[06:26:36] and the Met for the Laws. They arrested Christian Smalls for trying to hit the red carpet.
[06:26:43] Oh, damn.
[06:26:46] That's crazy.
[06:27:00] What edited picture of you on the mangala, the one they put you with AOC?
[06:27:08] Now you got some hats for your tax the rich shirt though.
[06:27:15] aren't you retweeting it? Yeah. Yeah, I might have played a role in this.
[06:27:45] I
[06:28:06] What are we fucking doing man
[06:28:15] Is that photoshop your head's normal size?
[06:28:21] What makes you think that this is photoshop?
[06:28:24] This is Met Gala outfit, nice.
[06:28:37] Will Neve got it on at the event?
[06:28:44] This is kink, right? Am I crazy? Isn't this like a, this is like a leather daddy outfit,
[06:28:55] isn't it? It's Tom from Finland. Tom of Finland. Yeah, he does look like, I mean, he does look
[06:29:07] like. I mean, that's probably the point, right? That's like, that's got to be the the reason.
[06:29:22] Yeah, look, here, let's put you on some game here.
[06:29:26] here. Can you wear this again?
[06:29:38] y'all fucking suck dude
[06:29:49] Imagine how much noise this dress makes when she's walking around
[06:29:53] What is this?
[06:29:55] She ate MacGallon at your fashion icon twain, Luwani
[06:29:59] Tiana Empire Alpha she truly belonged there her level of creativity Tiana will be there one day
[06:30:06] How did you find this?
[06:30:08] This is not even a person that's at the Met Gala, and I'm pretty sure this is AI.
[06:30:15] You literally found a random A.
[06:30:38] this is like a like a Nigerian auntie AI posting how is this on your for you
[06:30:45] page like there's no shot there's no fucking shot that this showed up on your
[06:30:55] for you pay. How is that possible? What the fuck?
[06:31:05] Mejoo and Tomodachi life. Oh, come on, dude. What is this? This is Cardi B. Wish it was
[06:31:19] AI what the fuck bro what the fuck gold prosthetics is sick as fuck
[06:31:40] Whoa, that is pretty fire.
[06:31:53] Okay, but this is crazy.
[06:31:55] Bro, this unironically looks like a blood-borne
[06:32:02] slash Elden Ring boss, like what the fuck was this?
[06:32:08] God's skin, Cardi B?
[06:32:10] Leena Dunham looking like a bag of Guajillo chilies.
[06:32:40] I don't have anything to say about this. I will not. I'm a feminist. W feminism.
[06:32:50] Scrolling too fast and thought the upper right was Amy Schumer.
[06:33:10] Did you see Nicki Minaj's fit? Nicki Minaj was not invited to the...
[06:33:14] TONGUE!
[06:33:15] You're so stupid. Nicki Minaj is not invited to the fucking Met Gala. There's a 0% chance.
[06:33:23] That would be shocking. If Anna went to her, who is insanely selected with a guest list, would then turn around and invite Nicki Minaj, there's no way.
[06:33:36] This year, after she wore all the ugly ass fits and became conservative, here's Cutie's
[06:33:58] girl crush of the man gal and she looks exactly like cutie here. Page Buickers and it's alright.
[06:34:08] It's an alright fit. I mean, I like her. I think she's cool, but
[06:34:14] it's a little bit for this occasion. You got to go big. Do you get invited or do you pay $100,000
[06:34:21] are both? No, no. You get invited. You're like, I think brand, like I think rich people
[06:34:30] and brands like they buy tables and then they have a guest list. Right? But even on the
[06:34:37] guest list, like you have to get okayed. But brands by the tables. This is a little bit
[06:34:48] Underwhelming I will admit and I love I think damson Idris is
[06:34:54] Coolest fuck, but this is a underwhelming fit
[06:35:01] The only reason why you guys are saying it's his fire is because he's hot that's it it's because he's hot
[06:35:08] This is so boring. Come on. Normally men just wear suits with the bars in hell.
[06:35:25] Well, it's your fit and we are used to it.
[06:35:40] I think my cousin is friends with Anna when towards you've been going for like 30 years
[06:35:43] at this point.
[06:35:44] What the fuck?
[06:35:45] How do you not know?
[06:35:46] How have you not asked your cousin how they had invited to the Met Gala every year for
[06:35:52] 30 years?
[06:35:55] some point that should have been brought up right like oh yeah I heard Kay Perry
[06:36:05] fit with dog shit let's see I mean it's not as bad as I thought it was gonna be
[06:36:14] It's bad, but I thought worse. I thought it was going to be worse.
[06:36:31] Where's Justin Trudeau?
[06:36:32] So, Marjorie Green at the Met Gala?
[06:36:48] What?
[06:36:54] Are you...
[06:37:19] Oh my god
[06:37:21] Wow. That's a very nice outfit.
[06:37:32] That's a cool outfit. I like it.
[06:37:36] I like the outfit a lot.
[06:37:39] What do you mean I'm looking at the art?
[06:37:50] It's crazy that you're calling me a pervert.
[06:37:54] It's not being horny again.
[06:37:56] I'm not being horny.
[06:37:57] I am appreciating the craftsmanship, the artisanship that went into the building.
[06:38:07] this beautiful work of art. I am looking at this respectfully. Can we look at Mother, though?
[06:38:22] I don't know who wise you old is and I'm too afraid to ask
[06:38:37] But I like to fit.
[06:38:55] I think it would die in Brazilian Carnival.
[06:38:58] Wait, what do you mean?
[06:38:59] Isn't Brazilian Carnival got titties out and stuff, right?
[06:39:05] They just they just have like tits out
[06:39:13] Look at this. Look look this guy kneecap concert outside of Met Gala's arm. I'm downy. Isn't this your NYPD. I
[06:39:21] Thought they weren't supposed to be involved with ice operations
[06:39:25] And whatever happened to abolish ice your rhetoric is loud and bold with the reality actions
[06:39:28] Like we're over here looking to the fucking Met Gala and this chatter has to be like no
[06:39:32] It's time for the news, please. Like can we just not be fucking autistic news frogs for like three seconds?
[06:39:39] Jesus Christ, dude
[06:39:42] Oh my god, stop trying to bait me into clicking on shit
[06:40:02] Go to a joe there it will blow your mind
[06:40:11] Kim Kardashian fit his mittus fuck that's not surprising ah
[06:40:17] That's not that I mean that's not that bad
[06:40:22] It's been done before and better I mean this is a pretty standard at this point right it's like the the gold plated armor fit
[06:40:30] it. It's kind of mid, especially I don't like the color, but it's not as bad as, you know,
[06:40:39] another shot of Tyler from the front. Wow. Great outfit. Sabrina Carpenter is also just
[06:40:54] okay. It's fine. This guy liked it, though, or maybe he's like, Oh, sweetie. Them toes
[06:41:12] stuffed
[06:41:16] delete
[06:41:34] That's fucked up
[06:41:40] Oh man
[06:41:42] as funny Lisa blackpink fire fire fire fire fire fire goaded fire angelic
[06:41:56] angelic ethereal
[06:42:00] for what is my dude's hair dude? that's crazy.
[06:42:17] Stan Lisa, Stan Lisa, Stan Blackpink. Blackpink in your area.
[06:42:27] She's scared of mosquitoes, Dua Lipa.
[06:42:32] That's not Dua Lipa!
[06:42:34] It's Ailin' Go!
[06:42:38] Fuck you!
[06:42:41] I don't even think Dua Lipa is attending this year.
[06:42:46] Not that I would pay close attention to where she's up to, but I feel like she was on vacation
[06:42:52] with her hubby. She was on vacation with her hubby in Europe somewhere. I saw their photos.
[06:43:02] Okay.
[06:43:03] I
[06:43:07] At least a lieu
[06:43:10] It's very underwhelming
[06:43:15] Wait what stop posting her the fuck
[06:43:18] I
[06:43:30] People get divorced all the time hanging there, buddy. She's new don't be rude
[06:43:34] It's never their fault the outfits that they wear they don't fucking choose
[06:43:39] Yeah, Emma Chamberlain's fit was fire
[06:43:41] Also not be hit glazing you in the weirdest way.
[06:43:45] Piker is the mother Jones of the 21st century. That's crazy.
[06:43:49] I don't
[06:43:53] think I'm worthy of that comparison.
[06:43:57] Mr. McConnell of the Gala.
[06:44:01] What the fuck is Anderson pot gone on man?
[06:44:31] I'm going to go back to the
[06:44:33] two
[06:44:34] two
[06:44:36] two
[06:44:38] two
[06:44:40] two
[06:44:42] two
[06:44:44] two
[06:44:46] two
[06:44:48] two
[06:44:50] two
[06:44:52] two
[06:44:54] two
[06:44:56] two
[06:44:58] two
[06:45:00] How is that?
[06:45:04] Oh, hello.
[06:45:08] Is that Abdul Sayed of the Magalia? He slayed.
[06:45:12] He slayed.
[06:45:16] They take all the shit off when they go in.
[06:45:20] Do they?
[06:45:24] You don't sit? There's no sit thee?
[06:45:28] Shit, that's another question. Karina from ASPA, underwhelming but pretty.
[06:45:37] Yeah, that's uh, normie. Coleman Domingo looking fly as fuck.
[06:45:44] Hey, he's the goat. He's the goat at all of these things. He's always the best.
[06:45:50] Rihanna leaves the Carlisle hotel before the Met Gala.
[06:45:55] That's cool.
[06:45:58] I don't
[06:46:10] Careful, yeah, I'm not gonna say anything. That's cool. Yeah
[06:46:17] Wisdom K he's a fashion influencer, buddy. I know who wisdom is
[06:46:23] He sat right there last year as we talked about how he was not invited to the Met Gala
[06:46:28] even though it would have been a perfect opportunity for him to be at the Met Gala.
[06:46:41] Tiana Taylor,
[06:46:45] unexpected. This is like what's the, this, what is it, is it the Bigfoot?
[06:46:55] Like it's a but like a OG version yeti. Yeah, not bigfoot yeti
[06:47:06] Like a 70s yeti
[06:47:08] I'm going to go back to the
[06:47:24] tape McCray.
[06:47:28] Bro, she just hot.
[06:47:30] I feel like everything tape McCray does is just carried by how hot she is.
[06:47:37] outfit as well. You know what I mean? It's just, she's just hot. She's attractive. So
[06:47:47] it's like one of the, it's one of those things where it's just like exclusively elevated
[06:47:54] because she's attractive. Dulelepa did go to the Met. Oh, she did. She didn't tell me
[06:48:06] about it. So I wouldn't former Hassan Abbey headed to Met Gala. Tate Maga Ray. Is she
[06:48:17] Maga? Yeah, I saw Chase Infinity. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Probably one of the best. Is
[06:48:28] Is he going to the mosque?
[06:48:37] This is a sunnette fit dude, this is what you get before you get your peepee snipped.
[06:48:43] In turkey, literally this is what you wear when you get the sunnette.
[06:48:54] She is 22, can you say that?
[06:48:56] Who?
[06:48:57] Chase Infinity?
[06:48:58] What?
[06:48:59] She's 26.
[06:49:00] What is it?
[06:49:01] Am I allowed to say a 26, am I not allowed to say a 26 year old is attractive?
[06:49:20] Are you guys fucking stupid?
[06:49:23] We're not going on a date chatter. You know what I mean? What the fuck?
[06:49:36] She's, she's a 26 year old toddler. Is that what the argument is? Like you're not,
[06:49:42] what?
[06:49:46] Aren't you like 50? First of all, I'm 34.
[06:49:50] Secondly, even if I was 50 years old, if a 26 year old woman is attractive, I can be like, she's attractive, okay?
[06:49:58] It's not...
[06:50:00] What the fuck is wrong with you guys, man? Are you serious? She's 26, you sick fuck.
[06:50:06] I can confirm in real life that she is, uh, literally just as pretty in real life, uh, for the record.
[06:50:17] Chase Infinity, I mean.
[06:50:20] It's okay you said it any wrong about you said the what the fuck does that mean?
[06:50:34] Bruh chatter was saying tape McCrae's 22 tape McCrae is 22 she's 22 years old what the fuck wait really
[06:50:44] Bro, what's up with zoomers, man?
[06:50:51] Is it mega phase?
[06:50:52] What is that?
[06:50:53] Wait, what?
[06:50:56] She's 22?
[06:50:57] I thought she was like...
[06:51:01] No disrespect.
[06:51:02] I find...
[06:51:03] I think she's a very attractive lady, but I thought she was like...
[06:51:09] I thought she was like 32, fuck.
[06:51:16] What the fuck?
[06:51:20] What the fuck?
[06:51:22] She's 22 years old.
[06:51:36] Also, Tate isn't Magga.
[06:51:39] We call her Tate Maga Cray for a reason 2032 you're smoking okay maybe not 32 but I thought
[06:51:52] she was like you know close to her 30s sometimes you just also that's still not weird okay
[06:52:05] You guys are odd for behaving like this
[06:52:10] But you can you can say that guys you can you can say a 22 year old is attractive. Okay, the fuck
[06:52:18] Like I'm not you know
[06:52:22] That's what the fuck
[06:52:26] What are we doing also I didn't even think that she was 22 regardless
[06:52:31] That's a no-growth sweaty, no problematic age gap thoughts. Yeah, what the fuck?
[06:52:43] But she used to be a teenager, check yourself. That's true.
[06:52:51] Dua Lipa.
[06:52:56] Are you guys doing that all night? Is this what you're gonna do? You're gonna keep saying Dua
[06:53:00] And it's not Dua Lipa. Okay, there it is. There's Dua Lipa, ethereal, angelic, giving
[06:53:13] chat to Ike hashtag times up. It's so funny because half the chatters that will complain
[06:53:19] about that are also the same chatters who are in the problematic age gap being like
[06:53:24] Like writing thirsty shit in the chat about me.
[06:53:31] While simultaneous you'd be like, ew, you said a 22 year old is attractive.
[06:53:34] That's crazy.
[06:53:36] I'm a different type of 22 year old though.
[06:53:41] Unk, please let the Glaze vid play.
[06:53:49] Sombra kind of tore.
[06:53:51] Yeah, yeah, I mean I hate to I hate to admit that but yeah
[06:54:05] It's not bad
[06:54:11] All right, all right, that's enough that's all I got for you guys. I'm tired. I'm
[06:54:16] I'm ending a here chat. Love you guys, seven hours. You already know what's up. We look
[06:54:30] at the Met Gala, uh, outfits. We went through the classics. We got a, we got an important
[06:54:43] lesson in the classic age-old debate in the chat, is fashion art? Is fashion bourgeois?
[06:54:57] Is fashion counter-revolutionary? Or could it be considered art? Are things that I don't
[06:55:02] like that are not in my immediate realm of interest? Are they problematic?
[06:55:13] Guest this week? I don't know. Probably nothing. I can't think of anything right now. I'm sure we
[06:55:17] have some guests of shit going on. Oh, yeah, I'm going to San Francisco this week for the
[06:55:22] the shoycott rally but love you guys and I'll see you tomorrow okay? Peace.
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[06:58:37] Cause there he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[06:58:48] There he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[06:58:59] But hey, what can you say, that's BBS for you
[06:59:05] But he'll play games real soon, just you wait
[06:59:12] Say hey, what can you say, hey, that's BBS for you
[06:59:18] But he'll move on real soon
[06:59:21] Just you wait
[06:59:23] Ba-da-da, ba-da-da, ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
[06:59:26] Hey, what can you say? Hey, that's BBS for you
[06:59:31] Well, pull your lungs real soon
[06:59:34] Just you wait
[06:59:36] Sha-da-da, sha-da-da, sha-da-da-da-da-da-da
[06:59:39] Hey, what can you say? Hey, that's BBS for you
[06:59:44] But he'll do Jeff Lies drill soon
[06:59:47] Just you wait
[06:59:51] But hey, what can you say?
[06:59:54] Let's be the ass for you
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[07:00:00] Just you wait
[07:00:03] Just you wait