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05-09-2026 · 6h 51m

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[00:09:30] The left's new golden boy, Twitch streamer, doesn't even try to hide it.
[00:09:38] Thirty-four-year-old Hassan Piker not only hates America, he's hinting at a civil war.
[00:09:43] A noted far-left influencer is declaring the Republican Party the biggest terrorist on
[00:09:49] earth.
[00:09:50] Directed evening, Hassan Piker is unapologetic for his controversial comments on a range
[00:09:54] of issues.
[00:09:55] An anti-American far-left commentator, who is named Hassan Piker.
[00:09:59] Now that he's being highlighted, Democrats are flocking to him.
[00:10:03] She's not out there on Hassan Piker's show, right?
[00:10:05] For example, right?
[00:10:06] The man to his left is a very controversial guy.
[00:10:11] Hassan Piker insults just about everyone.
[00:10:13] Or if you go back and listen to some of the things that he says, Carl, this guy's not
[00:10:18] going to wear a well.
[00:10:19] Their so-called Joe Rogan of the left, Hassan Piker, is back in the headlines this time
[00:10:25] for calling Republicans terrorists.
[00:10:27] has a controversial history and we've been showing you this all week.
[00:10:31] Don't give somebody like Hassan Piker this kind of attention, this kind of platform,
[00:10:35] it only rewards the kind of rhetoric that I just described.
[00:10:37] Hundreds of students lined up and packed into these rallies and they ate up the anti-war,
[00:10:43] anti-capitalist and anti-establishment messages.
[00:10:46] That's him, Hassan Piker. They should stay away from him.
[00:10:51] What's going on everybody? I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon, pre-noon,
[00:10:56] No matter where you are in the world, I'm a Sompiker and this does and I'm brought guest coming to you live
[00:11:01] from
[00:11:02] sunny California Los Angeles folks were live and alive
[00:11:04] But I hope all the boys girls and mbs are having a fantastic moment the kids today's a beautiful day today's a wonderful day today
[00:11:12] Is Saturday folks were that's right. It's Saturday. It is Saturday, May 9th
[00:11:19] 2026
[00:11:21] We're live we're live coming to you live from stolen Tongue the land here in
[00:11:26] West Hollywood, Los Angeles, California.
[00:11:31] And, uh, yeah, it's another, it's another day.
[00:11:35] Tansu, somebody cancel this man?
[00:11:37] Yeah, this is my, my Obama.
[00:11:40] Obama.
[00:11:43] I don't know what Tansu controversy. Yeah.
[00:11:51] Why are you always in a suit? I'm a suit guy now. This is it. I'm in my suit era.
[00:11:56] I think we already I think we already established that part of the reason why is because
[00:12:04] Part of the reason why I'm in a suit all the time is because you know moms and dads are watching
[00:12:12] Two reasons one it makes my head look bigger
[00:12:17] Number two a lot of conservatives come in here to watch
[00:12:21] watch lately to see what's going on and as a chatter correctly pointed to wearing a suit
[00:12:29] basically like lingerie for old conservative ladies.
[00:12:34] Yeah, they love that shit, get some horny.
[00:12:39] And in their horny moment they just are a lot more receptive to what I have to say.
[00:12:47] This is how we spark the revolution, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:12:50] This is how we do it, all right, so, where was I, folks, folks, this part of the broadcast
[00:13:11] for you about my personal news. And I got, um, I got one thing to say personal news wise,
[00:13:19] as I often tell you, I'm a shut ass loser. I am a shut ass loser. Okay. I'm a shut ass
[00:13:28] loser. Last night I did not go to nephew's birthday. I could not make it. I was unbelievably
[00:13:35] tired. I've been traveling a lot. So instead of going and celebrating nephew's life, chasing
[00:13:46] the wean turning 21 years old, they grow so fast. It's crazy. I went to bed like pretty
[00:13:55] shortly after I edit the broadcast. So this is adding on to the controversy on top of
[00:14:02] the the tan suit or 22 22 21 22 bro for me it's like he's he's basically 15 okay
[00:14:14] I'm 34 years old from my perspective I go to bed at like 9 30 and I fall asleep
[00:14:20] by 10 30 okay I'm 34 years old I'm wearing suits now when you tell me about
[00:14:27] someone turning 21 or 22, I'm like, that's, to me, that's like, you're, you're a baby. You're,
[00:14:34] you're basically just only recently out of being a fetus. You know what I mean? You, you,
[00:14:41] yeah, you're, you're basically a minor. I'm 15. What am I to you? Six? If you're 15 years old,
[00:14:50] then you're literally a fetus. I'll be honest, like from my, I mean, I'm glad you
[00:14:57] you're a, you're a well studied fetus. Okay.
[00:15:01] But like, like you could be aborted from my perspective. If you're 15 years old,
[00:15:06] like, like technically that's, uh, that you're, you're so early in the gestation
[00:15:11] period, you know what I mean? Like you're not even,
[00:15:14] like you could be aborted in a virtually every state.
[00:15:20] Like that's the way that's how young you are.
[00:15:23] The babies of adulthood. Yeah, a 15 year old is basically a fetus, but for adults. Anyway,
[00:15:33] are you going to keep the suits for the pod? Sure, maybe. Folks, if I'm a fetus, then what
[00:15:42] am I to you? You're protein. You're protein in the tree. There's no protein in the tree.
[00:15:50] I don't know why I said that. You're basically just protein out there in the wild yet. You
[00:15:54] haven't even made it to your father's ball sack yet. Okay. Anyway, so yeah, we're,
[00:16:08] is the hermese opiate? No, it's not. When is the handy debate? This might be
[00:16:20] a little bit sad for people who were looking forward to the Hannity debate but he pushed it back
[00:16:28] and they haven't given us another day yet and it's a very yeah yeah unfortunately Hannity,
[00:16:36] Sean Hannity was like I'm gonna push this debate back we don't know to when but yeah
[00:16:42] I don't know why he did that and it's very sad and I'm in talks with Van Jones, but Van
[00:16:56] Jones is like way out there. He said his schedule is really busy until like later in the year.
[00:17:03] So kind of made me a little sad, I'll be honest, a little taco, a little taco Tuesday.
[00:17:12] Hopefully he's, he's truly trying to reschedule it and not using this as an opportunity to just
[00:17:23] the chicken out. That type of shit, you know. But what else? What else? Yeah, personal news
[00:17:33] wise, I woke up early. I worked out. And that's it. That's all I got in my life.
[00:17:47] That's all that's happening in my life, not really anything else, honestly.
[00:17:50] Um, we are falling so far behind. What is this? Oh, yeah, I saw this. I saw this LARP, Revolutionary LARP.
[00:18:00] There's theme parks in mainland China where you can LARP.
[00:18:02] Is the Revolutionary Patriotic Massive Storming a fortress of the Japanese occupiers?
[00:18:05] Fires?
[00:18:06] So fired dude, holy shit.
[00:18:12] Okay, well I have to figure out where this is and I have to.
[00:18:32] You have a girlfriend. Yeah, your mom. Um, I have to figure out where this is and I have
[00:18:37] to go to it and I have to live stream it. That's what I have to do. Like, let's be real.
[00:18:46] Early hog, Magga, Magga, Magga. Yeah, he saw this and he was like Magga. Um, he saw this
[00:18:59] and he was like, why can't we have this in America? God damn it.
[00:19:04] Are you going to watch 2 to Key in the World Cup maybe?
[00:19:11] Are you going to China again this year? Well, I was supposed to
[00:19:14] and then some plans fell through, but I still, from what I understand, I have an open invitation
[00:19:19] to speak at a Chinese university. I won't tell you which one, but I'm very excited about it.
[00:19:25] And therefore, I will be going back at some point this year.
[00:19:29] Don't you worry about it. Okay.
[00:19:33] Yeah. Yeah. We're going global, folks.
[00:19:37] We're going global.
[00:19:51] Dr. John collab. Oh my God. Not the goat.
[00:19:55] Not my Dr. John, not Professor John, but can't wait for Fox News media bliss after you speak
[00:20:12] of Chinese uni.
[00:20:13] That's fine.
[00:20:14] I mean, what is that going to be any different than what I'm experiencing currently?
[00:20:19] Probably not.
[00:20:20] But yeah, that's it.
[00:20:22] That's all I got for personal news folks.
[00:20:24] We got Republicans subverting democracy as always, Epstein Fury day 71, victory day,
[00:20:30] straight clothes, Morocco, Malacurus in the building, uh, Saturday fun day, uh, react
[00:20:40] Lord get in and now I know, I know, uh, Jose, Jose did a good video on them.
[00:20:48] So I got your blast offs, true.
[00:20:50] Don't worry. Um, Jose did a good video on my professor, John, not my professor,
[00:20:55] John, and, and therefore I will be, I'll be doing that. I'll be doing the damn thing.
[00:21:03] Put the fun day fries in the bag. I mean, I tried to do a, I tried to do a fun day a little bit
[00:21:08] yesterday on Friday and people did not react positively to it. Let's be real. I, I went,
[00:21:15] I made the mistake of looking at a little bit of drama that was like popping in the mannisfier
[00:21:19] circuit like and people were losing their minds they're like why are you not
[00:21:25] covering why are you not covering the news I'm going to kill myself I have a
[00:21:31] gun I have a gun on me that I purchased for this occasion I'm so close I'm so
[00:21:41] close to ending it all you were mentioned on CNN today yeah I know I you
[00:21:47] You know why I know that?
[00:21:50] Because I was training this morning, okay, at my, at my trainer's, uh, you know, backyard
[00:22:00] and his dad comes out and goes, I just watched you on CNN last night.
[00:22:05] And I was like, oh brother, oh no.
[00:22:12] And yeah, yeah, this is like they're demonizing wealthy people in success.
[00:22:22] I think I'm gonna tell you something, okay?
[00:22:26] I'm gonna tell you guys something.
[00:22:31] This is a 731 AM Pacific time.
[00:22:37] Did they run it last night or something or maybe he watched it this morning or maybe
[00:22:40] he was talking about another?
[00:22:42] No, I think this is from last night. They just are maybe replaying it
[00:22:47] Cuz um, this is a nighttime show usually is a nighttime panel anyway
[00:22:59] They the epsom class to protect the class yeah
[00:23:03] I I mean if left to their own devices
[00:23:06] I feel like we're just gonna drive peak liberalism and shallow identity politics into that, into
[00:23:13] that ditch, you know, where they unironically are gonna say, oh, no, the only POC we must
[00:23:20] protect are people of capital.
[00:23:23] Like people of color, sure, they've been under attack, but we've caught, you know, we fought
[00:23:29] long and hard and there've been solutions for the problems that pertain to people of
[00:23:34] color.
[00:23:35] about the people of capital, the real POC. Nobody ever talks about the real POC, like
[00:23:40] the people of capital. Yeah, people of the CEO class. I'm genuinely, I'm worried that
[00:23:46] this is like what liberals are going to run with.
[00:23:50] You know, tax the rich is actually a slur. It really is. It's actually a much worse slur
[00:23:57] than the other slur. The ones that you can't say, see, you can't even say those other slurs,
[00:24:03] So you can say tax the rich.
[00:24:05] So obviously, there you have it.
[00:24:09] You can't say the N-word, but you can say tax the rich, which is a slur.
[00:24:14] Therefore, people of capital, the real POC, much worse off.
[00:24:18] I can totally see a world where like Republicans run with that.
[00:24:22] And then Democrat consultants who get their notes from the Republicans who have a very
[00:24:27] hard time fighting back against the Republicans, they will turn around and lean into it somehow.
[00:24:33] Um, of course, just like with the case, uh, just like with the case in, in the Israel saga where
[00:24:43] people just kept doing it and they still keep doing it to, uh, lesser and lesser impact, I think
[00:24:48] people are not going to buy it. I think people are just not going to buy it. Um, yeah.
[00:25:03] I
[00:25:14] Happy does a Saturday morning show too. This is from today
[00:25:18] All right. Well, let's see. Let's see what the fuck cuz if you thought the fuck Hassan saga was over
[00:25:25] Let me tell you it's not the bullwark is still hitting it
[00:25:27] it. The bulwark is still hitting it. Third way is still on my ass, bro. They are still
[00:25:36] on my ass. Hey, man, are you going to talk about big Z turning into Zoran? You mean Zogran?
[00:25:47] Is that who you talking about? Big Z? Israel's greatest defender. Israel's favorite mayor.
[00:25:56] What did he do now? I don't, I'm chill. I'm fucking around. Um, uh, I found you by listening
[00:26:03] to TIT then CNN was bitching about you. Bro. I mean, look, look at this. Look, this is what
[00:26:13] happens when you're not, when you're not fucking constantly caving. Okay. When, when you're
[00:26:19] not constantly caving to the, to the demands of the apartheid state and all of its most
[00:26:24] blood thirsty lovers. Okay. What is this? The Mamdani Act. Yeah. The fuck and the house
[00:26:42] judiciary? I mean, this is the Mamdani Act is the, this one is the one where it's like,
[00:26:52] You can't be Muslim and like run for office, right?
[00:26:54] Or something.
[00:26:55] It's like one of those stupid ones.
[00:26:58] You're going to talk about Honduras gate?
[00:26:59] Sure.
[00:27:02] Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[00:27:07] To direct the Federal Trade Commission
[00:27:08] to conduct a study on the potential impacts of,
[00:27:10] oh, this is a separate one.
[00:27:12] There's another Mamdani one that Chip Roy put out,
[00:27:15] which was like, if you're Muslim, you shouldn't be.
[00:27:22] There was a, there was another one that Chip Roy from Texas put out that was like, if you're
[00:27:27] Muslim, you shouldn't be in Congress. Like you just shouldn't be allowed to be in Congress
[00:27:32] if you're Muslim and we should also kill you and deport you first and then maybe kill you
[00:27:36] in the process of deportation. Very cool. It's very cool that you get to do stuff like
[00:27:42] that in American Congress and everyone is just like, yeah, I guess, I guess this guy
[00:27:47] guy has a reasonable disagreement. Yeah, he does, doesn't he? We do have a disagreement.
[00:27:54] I want to live. He doesn't want me to live, but I guess that's a reasonable disagreement
[00:28:00] from your perspective. Very strange. What else are we debating today? Like, are there
[00:28:07] other normal decorum based conversations that we're going to have around, you know, can
[00:28:13] Muslims, can Muslims be? Question mark, that's it. That's the question. Can Muslims be?
[00:28:21] Are Muslims allowed? Question mark. Nothing further, nothing beyond that. Should they be allowed to
[00:28:28] live on US soil? Should they all be deported or should we just deport like, at least 50%
[00:28:36] of the Muslims. Should Muslims be allowed to be in office, right? Is Islam anti-Semitic
[00:28:45] across the board? Very cool stuff. Oh yeah, this was awesome. I saw this earlier. Also,
[00:28:53] yeah, congratulations. Happy, happy John Brown Day. Also happy victory day. Don't you think
[00:28:58] you went a little too far with Harper's Ferry? Don't you think slavery went a little too
[00:29:01] What what come he says? Thank you for the 20 gift the subs. Yeah, do Muslims have a right to exist? The answer is no, of course
[00:29:12] But yeah, let's see what the CNN folks the good folks of CNN we're saying about the the focus on
[00:29:19] times
[00:29:21] 54 this is like the you know
[00:29:26] What is it now three months
[00:29:29] I'm honored
[00:29:30] I'll admit, I'm honored, by the way, we blasted off, let the people know we're live and alive.
[00:29:35] I'm honored that I have been the singular focus of enmity, that the media can focus
[00:29:48] on one issue for longer than a 24-hour media cycle. And it's truly remarkable,
[00:29:56] Because for the longest time, I thought this was impossible, right? I thought it was impossible
[00:30:02] to have anything stay in the media cycle for longer than like 24 hours and 48 hours.
[00:30:10] And it turns out that is the case. It turns out they can have something in the media cycle for
[00:30:18] a lot longer than 24 hours because we're now currently sitting on the third month almost.
[00:30:24] Some people want to read the fucking chat. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Are you mad that I'm spamming in my own chat?
[00:30:32] The blast off link so that people can go and interact with it so that we can let the people know that I'm live
[00:30:39] I'm alive and we can welcome people into the community
[00:30:42] Over time with Bill Maher, John Fetterman, Dan Crescia, Donna Brazil. Oh my God, this is like an
[00:30:56] op-fest. Well, I guess maybe not Donna. What is, did they, I assume there was,
[00:31:05] I assume that there was some talk, right? Or am I wrong? Did Bill Maher do a piece on me?
[00:31:11] Oh, Bill Bow Baggins. No mention of you. Whoa, what? That's crazy. Okay.
[00:31:25] That they brought my two of my ops. They brought John Federman and also Dan Crenshaw. So
[00:31:33] I mean, bro, this is literally a league of villains. By the way, this is look at some of my
[00:31:39] most annoying odds like this is straight up looks like this is villain status. It literally
[00:31:45] looks like a bunch of villains in a round table being like, haha, how can we be evil today?
[00:31:52] What the fuck? Anyway, uh, all right, let's see what the fuck CNN was saying.
[00:32:03] Coming up, it's like that's a mental problem. And if they can't deal with themselves, then
[00:32:07] we should tax them to deal with it.
[00:32:09] First, just to briefly address the economics,
[00:32:11] at least in New York, about the top 1% of, basically,
[00:32:14] 40,000 people pay about 50% of the taxes.
[00:32:17] So if you look at the numbers, I
[00:32:18] think Moundani's going to be a tough spot,
[00:32:20] because people will continue to leave.
[00:32:21] So that's just the reality.
[00:32:23] But in terms of the way that the rich are being treated,
[00:32:26] Moundani, of course, is very close with Son Piker, who
[00:32:28] over the years has made comments that he
[00:32:30] wants to see effing capitalists' blood in the streets.
[00:32:33] They know each other.
[00:32:34] They're not, they're associating us on Pymre.
[00:32:37] Don't do that.
[00:32:38] Don't do that.
[00:32:38] But mom Donnie, basically.
[00:32:40] Yo, chill.
[00:32:41] They know each other?
[00:32:42] No, we're best friends.
[00:32:43] Okay.
[00:32:44] We're best friends.
[00:32:44] No, I'm just kidding.
[00:32:46] Yeah, no, I don't know him.
[00:32:47] Who is that guy?
[00:32:48] Who?
[00:32:48] What's his name?
[00:32:51] What's his name, Chad?
[00:32:52] Zol-
[00:32:54] Z-Zoran?
[00:32:56] Zoro?
[00:32:58] What is it?
[00:32:58] I don't even, I don't know who the fuck that guy is.
[00:33:01] What are we talking about?
[00:33:02] What is it?
[00:33:07] Zocron?
[00:33:09] Is that how you say it?
[00:33:10] What?
[00:33:12] What is it? What is he?
[00:33:13] What's his background?
[00:33:15] What's he like?
[00:33:19] See Japanese Zoro?
[00:33:22] I don't know. I don't know this man.
[00:33:23] What does he do?
[00:33:26] What does he do?
[00:33:26] Explain to me what he does.
[00:33:27] What's his job?
[00:33:28] What is he like, the fucking mayor or something?
[00:33:31] Barack Obama. Yeah. Zoran, Zoran, the Croatian. He's a Croatian, dude. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah,
[00:33:44] no, that's cool, man. I love Croatia. Croatia. Yeah. Yeah. What's his, what's his, I don't
[00:33:52] fucking know that guy. I don't know that guy at all. I don't know why they're, I don't know
[00:33:56] why they're bringing bringing my name up next to him. Speaking of Asian people, Fukuyama just
[00:34:03] said China. I already saw this bro. Are you kidding me? Every time France, Fukuyama says something
[00:34:07] that is like in the Hasanabi school of thought, I watch it and then I immediately tell my dad
[00:34:14] that I'm right and he's wrong and his entire worldview has been destroyed thoroughly. That
[00:34:19] capitalism is over and that the end of history turns out there was a lot more history and then
[00:34:25] And then the next, the next like global hegemon, even if it's not a global hegemon, the next
[00:34:32] global leader will be most likely China, you know, your dad's a fukyama stand dog.
[00:34:40] My dad has a f*****g PhD from the London School of Economics, okay?
[00:34:46] How have we, I've explained this before, like we do not agree on a lot of things on the way
[00:34:53] that we see the world, okay? He is, he is, he will get mad if I call him King neoliberal cuz he,
[00:35:03] apparently he fancies himself to be a, not even a social Democrat, but he thinks that
[00:35:12] he's a social, he's not, okay? He is literally, his life, his entire life's work is
[00:35:17] is upholding a neoliberalism.
[00:35:22] This is what he grew up in.
[00:35:27] To be your dad on stream, absolutely not.
[00:35:30] One, he doesn't speak English, so.
[00:35:40] He's probably more pro-Palestine than he is.
[00:35:42] He absolutely is not.
[00:35:43] I'm definitely more pro-Palestine than he is.
[00:35:45] I mean, he's also pro-Palestine, but.
[00:35:47] He can, but he doesn't. Yes. That just means he's a dang is no, he's not. He, he is not.
[00:36:03] He's not very pro channel. Let's be real. Chilbrosky. Some of us went to LSE and turned
[00:36:07] out third world is there's only one guy that is pink Corbett teal says Chilbrosky. Some
[00:36:12] of us went to LSE and turned out third world is there's only one guy that I know that is
[00:36:16] like an LSE guy that is unironically a Maoist third world is, but I mean, maybe not a Maoist
[00:36:22] third world is, but it's, it's, uh, Jason Hickel. Jason Hickel is, uh, one of my favorite, uh,
[00:36:31] guys on Twitter. He's a professor and a visiting senior fellow at London school of economics.
[00:36:37] And he is like sincerely a third world is, I think, uh, he probably wouldn't say that he's a third
[00:36:43] Well, this, but yeah, he's a, he's a degrowth guy. He's, he's definitely a socialist. He's
[00:36:48] definitely a Marxist. Um, not, not Jackson, Hinkle, bank, not the ACP, MAGA, communist
[00:36:55] guys. I'm talking specifically about Jason Hinkle, a professor, uh, and visiting senior
[00:37:02] a fellow at London school of economics who I, uh, you know, I read his stuff all the
[00:37:07] time. My sister went to LSE and she's an anarchist. It happens. It happens. Look, look, I went
[00:37:13] the, I did the Oxbridge move, okay? I went to Oxford. I went to Cambridge. There were a lot
[00:37:18] of Hassanabi heads there. So it does happen. I mean, fuck it. There were Hassanabi heads at Yale,
[00:37:23] which in my opinion is even more shocking, right? So it happens. I don't know why. I don't know how.
[00:37:30] Maybe people like accidentally read too much and then they become woke. But it does happen. So I'm
[00:37:37] So I'm not discounting that.
[00:37:40] So nine articles since the rally, Jesus Christ, corporate media, condemces on piker.
[00:37:50] I'm a Hassanabe head going oxford my PhD.
[00:37:53] Hell yeah.
[00:37:57] Jewish news syndicate racist mass agnostic xenophobic democratic city official says of
[00:38:02] far left podcast or the daily caller far left from recalls for violent revolution.
[00:38:07] of the courts side with GOP and redistricting. F bombs and disco balls, Fox News left the
[00:38:14] shimmer calls, violent revolution inevitable as Democrats explode over Virginia courts.
[00:38:20] Yeah, you know what's really funny about this stuff by the way, these guys run around, at
[00:38:29] At least the Democrats run around apologizing. Democrats run around apologizing on every issue,
[00:38:40] right? Even on this issue, there's like a lot of Democrats. Like the New York Democratic Party said
[00:38:44] that they're not gonna redistrict, which I think is ridiculous, okay? I think it's completely
[00:38:49] unacceptable, and I think it's ridiculous, all right? You got the Virginia Democrats saying
[00:38:55] we will abide by the decision of the Supreme Court. Again, ridiculous.
[00:38:59] Meanwhile, you got people like myself, outsiders, who are not invested in the party's success
[00:39:05] necessarily, but still invested in the battle against fascism, the battle against the Republican
[00:39:11] party, screaming from the rooftops, being like, no, you did a good thing with the redistricting
[00:39:16] Virginia, you need to keep this up. You need to keep up this energy, okay?
[00:39:23] And I'm not seeing that motion nor that energy from the figureheads within the party. I don't
[00:39:31] understand it. I mean, I guess I do understand it, let's be real. It's just, there are reasons for it.
[00:39:37] There are reasons for it, but I think that there are Democrats who wanna put up this fight. There
[00:39:43] There are Democrats, Democratic voters who certainly want this and demand this from their own elected representatives.
[00:39:50] But there are, unfortunately, a significant chunk of Democrats in positions of power who are looking at the situation and saying to themselves that it's probably better overall if we go rock the boat, if we don't fight back, if we don't stick our necks out.
[00:40:13] And it's very frustrating video right in front of Ken Griffin's house called him out just blocks away from where the United
[00:40:20] Healthcare CEO had been I want to see this fool and I want to see this full clip
[00:40:28] You know, I want to see the the full back-and-forth conversation
[00:40:39] But
[00:40:41] Apparently Matt Bennett is still chirping even though he he went back and forth on this where he was like
[00:40:46] Oh, we've we didn't even want to do this a son piker thing like I don't know what you guys are talking about
[00:40:51] No one should have actually paid attention to us
[00:40:54] Continues here. I think
[00:40:56] What is this? Wow, Lydia Moyan just threw anti billionaire left us into a frenzy
[00:41:03] Okay, well, we'll we'll get to the fucking pro billionaire anti billionaire, uh, meta
[00:41:07] Obviously, it's a big deal. That's like what's popping right now. That's what's what people are really paying attention to
[00:41:14] I got a pee real quick. So I'm just gonna start with
[00:41:17] Matt Benham and leave you with third way they went on bulwark again and they're shitting on me again
[00:41:22] He is a vile person. Yeah, he is plenty of vile people on Twitch
[00:41:26] But not many of them are campaigning with major candidates for the US Senate and so we thought it was important to call him out for that now
[00:41:35] Now, the criticism was of basically two varieties.
[00:41:41] Tim and others said,
[00:41:44] why are you trying to shrink the tent?
[00:41:46] That's ridiculous.
[00:41:47] There are people that listen to this guy
[00:41:49] that we could win and you're alienating them.
[00:41:52] And our view is, first of all,
[00:41:55] we're not saying that no one should go on Piker's stream.
[00:41:58] Ron and Manuel said, I'll go on there
[00:42:00] and tell him he's an asshole.
[00:42:01] And our view is like, fine,
[00:42:03] If you want to go on and call him out, that's fine.
[00:42:07] What you shouldn't do is elevate him as an avatar or spokesperson for Democrats, which
[00:42:13] campaigning with him just inherently does.
[00:42:16] You can't campaign with someone and then turn around and argue that they are bad.
[00:42:23] And so our view is no Democrat should campaign with Piper, not that they shouldn't speak
[00:42:29] to him, but they shouldn't campaign with him.
[00:42:32] And moreover, his audience, he does have a large audience, but a lot of it's under 18
[00:42:38] or outside the United States or both.
[00:42:41] And those who are of voting age and Americans is not 100% clear to me or persuadable anyway.
[00:42:49] This is not a guy that has been helping Democrats.
[00:42:52] He said he was very skeptical about voting for Conley Harris.
[00:42:56] He is a fair weather friend of Democrats at the best of times.
[00:43:02] And so we just think, bro, it's so funny.
[00:43:07] He's literally trying to hit.
[00:43:10] They're trying to hit every angle they possibly can.
[00:43:13] He's like, um, actually, uh, a lot of his fans are, are from Pakistan.
[00:43:19] They're not even American.
[00:43:21] Um, he's, um, you know, he hates democracy.
[00:43:25] He one time said he thinks democracy sucks.
[00:43:28] He just fucking make it all up.
[00:43:30] You know what I mean?
[00:43:31] of shit. He's like, there's a lot of vile figures on Twitch, but none of them are campaigning
[00:43:35] with candidates.
[00:43:36] Yeah, because I'm a fucking political commentator. Also, why are you yelling? Why are you frustrated?
[00:43:43] They are the ones who are asking me, what do you want me to do? Tell them no? It sucks
[00:43:49] because the reality here is that he cannot get people to stop wanting to do this.
[00:44:00] stop wanting to actively collaborate with me, okay?
[00:44:04] That's what it is.
[00:44:05] He's just like, why are these Democrats, why are these insurgent Democrats even running?
[00:44:10] Why are these insurgent Democrats trying to change the dynamic of the party to make it
[00:44:14] more responsive to the needs of the masses?
[00:44:17] Why are these insurgent Democrats going to Hasan Abdi Pagar?
[00:44:21] Why are they not coming to me?
[00:44:22] They've been coming to me.
[00:44:24] I was thinking about this quite a bit.
[00:44:25] There's an entire billion dollar industry of advisors that work on these campaigns.
[00:44:32] And their job is specifically to tie up corporate interests back to these campaigns.
[00:44:38] Their jobs, they get paid a lot of money to basically tell Democrats like, no, no, no,
[00:44:43] you're doing great, sweetie.
[00:44:45] Just no matter what happens, do not push for like Medicare for all, because that would
[00:44:49] not be beneficial for our primary benefactors, specifically the private healthcare providers,
[00:44:54] right?
[00:44:55] very upset, right? And they're, they're making, you know, tens of millions of dollars, both
[00:45:01] on the corporate side for their lobbying initiatives and also on the campaign side as well to like
[00:45:06] communicate the, the interest in corporations of these guys. So when they have a guy who
[00:45:11] not only has his own money, but has no corporate backing whatsoever on Boston on bought the
[00:45:20] it freaks them the fuck out because all of a sudden now not only do we have a movement
[00:45:26] where we have real door knockers, we have people that can go out if there's a true investment,
[00:45:32] okay? In these campaigns, we can make these politicians listen to us
[00:45:41] and they fucking hate that. They can't stand it because I'm doing it not only for free,
[00:45:46] but I'm also spending my own money out of my own goddamn pocket to do it.
[00:45:49] That is a very, very frustrating predicament. If your entire job is to be the professional
[00:45:58] who gets people elected, right? If your entire job is to talk the campaigns directly,
[00:46:03] and all of the other people that are talking to all of these other campaigns are in the in-group,
[00:46:09] and they're a part of the in-group, and they're also backed by maybe similar corporations,
[00:46:13] or they have a buy-in investment in the continuation of the current system, then that's fine.
[00:46:23] Third way doesn't care if there are other people that maybe sometimes even attend their
[00:46:28] conferences that might have some disagreements with them.
[00:46:32] But ultimately they're backed by some kind of corporate entity, right?
[00:46:36] There's a buy-in for a lot of these people.
[00:46:39] They are getting paid by these corporations, right?
[00:46:44] It might not always be the insurance industry, but it could be the grocery chain, like the
[00:46:51] National Retailers Association, right?
[00:46:54] Like, there's some kind of buy-in to this system, okay?
[00:47:03] They have a direct financial imperative to continue things the way that they're going.
[00:47:14] I don't, I don't.
[00:47:16] I'm accountable to no corporate entity whatsoever.
[00:47:19] I mean, obviously I have to abide by terms of service and stuff, but I'm only accountable
[00:47:23] to my community.
[00:47:24] I'm only accountable.
[00:47:26] the only the only people I care about are my people, right?
[00:47:36] And they do not like that at all because someone like myself,
[00:47:42] as long as I stayed in the sidelines and never actually directly started talking
[00:47:46] to politicians and making them hear our concerns,
[00:47:51] making them hear the concerns of the masses,
[00:47:53] Okay?
[00:47:54] Making them more responsive to the needs of the masses.
[00:47:57] As long as I was on the sidelines, they'd be fine.
[00:47:59] But now I'm no longer on the sidelines.
[00:48:01] I'm actually directly talking to these people, and it's ironic because part of the reason
[00:48:05] why this exploded is because of this fucking idiot, Matt Bennett, at Third Way.
[00:48:11] If he hadn't made such a big fuss about me stomping with Abdullah al-Sayed, it would've
[00:48:17] not made a discourse cycle explode for the past three months.
[00:48:23] And in the aftermath of that, virtually every Democrat in the country has reached out to
[00:48:28] do something, okay?
[00:48:33] Virtually every Democrat in the country is like, can we, can we have you fly out here?
[00:48:36] Like that would be really nice to, to, you know, highlight some of the things that are
[00:48:41] happening.
[00:48:48] So it's really funny.
[00:48:49] It's also hilarious that this guy just puts his L's in the backdrop here, Hillary Clinton,
[00:48:54] Kamala Harris, Tim Walts, like he's just not even ashamed.
[00:48:57] I guess he put the Cuck chair in front of it.
[00:49:05] And as AOC also said, something that I say all the goddamn time, they can't attack the
[00:49:10] message.
[00:49:11] So they have to disparage the messenger.
[00:49:14] They have to make it so that you feel some type of way about coming in here and listening
[00:49:19] to what I have to say, they have to be like, no, this guy is an irredeemable piece of shit,
[00:49:23] a vile monster, right? One of the worst people in American politics, you have to stay away.
[00:49:31] Do not look at him, look away. But for a lot of the people that hear this kind of posturing,
[00:49:39] especially coming from a loser, right?
[00:49:45] A loser like Third Way Democrats who have had a stranglehold in the communications
[00:49:51] of the Democratic Party, the National Party that has been unresponsive in the
[00:49:54] needs of the masses, especially posts like Bill Clinton era,
[00:49:58] this right wing constant pivot to being moderate.
[00:50:02] This let's not fight the Republicans Democratic Party that everybody despises now.
[00:50:07] Third way is responsible for that messaging, okay?
[00:50:19] But it's very funny that this has been a spectacular failure, right?
[00:50:25] It's been a massive failure because they hit this line over and over again, and all this
[00:50:30] led to was more prominence for your boy.
[00:50:37] this led to was more attention to what we're doing. Two varieties. Tim and others said,
[00:50:47] why are you trying to shrink the tent? That's ridiculous. There are people that listen to this
[00:50:51] guy that we could win and you're alienating them. And our view is, first of all, we're not saying
[00:50:59] that no one should go on Piker's stream. Ronald Manuel said, I'll go on there and tell him he's
[00:51:03] an asshole, you know, and our viewers are fine. If you want to go on and call them out,
[00:51:09] that's fine.
[00:51:10] Buddy, you have no motion. You have no motion. What are you talking about? You don't get
[00:51:14] to dictate these terms at all. And not only that, but actually it's not true to say he
[00:51:20] has no motion. He has negative motion, right? What's really funny about this process and
[00:51:25] And the way that it's like unfolded is that they have negative motion.
[00:51:33] So what ended up happening is when they started calling out people that were aligning with
[00:51:38] me, a lot of other people went, but you're a loser.
[00:51:43] We don't like what you have to say at all.
[00:51:46] And you more importantly, don't know how to win races.
[00:51:51] So we're going to go with this other guy.
[00:51:54] Also, I'm rocking a suit and he's not.
[00:51:58] So which one of us is the real professional?
[00:52:03] Which one of us is the real professional, sir?
[00:52:06] What you shouldn't do is elevate him as a avatar or spokesperson for Democrats, which
[00:52:13] campaigning with him just inherently does.
[00:52:16] You can't campaign with someone and then turn around and argue that they are bad.
[00:52:23] So maybe that's the reason why they're not doing that. They're doing that. So you basically
[00:52:32] get off their asses campaign. All you want with Bill crystal and this Cheney, who have
[00:52:36] immense amounts of blood on their hands, but a Sompikers off limits. Amazing that bill
[00:52:40] Chris's website has become the leading them form policy arm in the self-anointed moral
[00:52:44] conscious of the party. Yeah.
[00:52:50] I'm not going to lie. I think Bill Crystal is probably more woke than these guys for the record.
[00:52:55] Like Bill Crystal has been like talking about abolishing ISIS shit. So low key, Bill Crystal
[00:53:00] probably aligns with me more than he aligns with Sarah Longwell at this point, you know?
[00:53:06] He's just writing fanfics about you on live TV now.
[00:53:09] View is no Democrats should campaign with Piker, not that they shouldn't speak to him,
[00:53:14] but they shouldn't campaign with him. And moreover, his audience, he does have a large
[00:53:20] audience, but a lot of it's under 18 or that's not true outside the United States. Also not true.
[00:53:26] Overwhelming majority of my audience, if not damn near entirety, my audience is America,
[00:53:31] some in Canada and the UK. Okay. It's mostly the English speaking world, but like the,
[00:53:36] the hugest chunk of my audience is Americans. That's number one. Number two, under 18 is a
[00:53:43] miniscule percentage of my audience. So he's wrong about that as well. This community is now
[00:53:48] basically in the 18 to 35 bracket firmly and it's it's actually more so in the plus 25 to 35
[00:53:56] range. This community has grown older as I have grown older, okay. This community has aged alongside
[00:54:05] myself. So that's also untrue. And the those who are of voting age and Americans is not 100% clear
[00:54:14] to me are persuadable anyway. This is not a guy that has been helping Democrats. He said he was
[00:54:20] very skeptical about voting for Conway Harris. He is a fair weather friend of Democrats at the best
[00:54:28] of times. And so we just think having a bigot around is bad. And the second reason is it's
[00:54:35] super bad, not only is it immoral, but it's terrible politics. It allows Republicans,
[00:54:41] non-unfairly to connect us to his most vile dog you're the Republican you're
[00:54:50] the Republican connecting the Democrats this is the problem okay I just want
[00:54:55] these guys to be honest just fucking be honest because if he was honest here's
[00:55:00] what he would say we here at the third way let's look at third way's donors
[00:55:06] real quick. Okay. Third way donors. Yeah. Here, I'll do the AI summary first. Okay. Third
[00:55:18] way is a centrist think tank funded by a combination of wealthy investors, liberal mega donors and
[00:55:22] corporate interest, including financial services and lobbying groups. I've actually given up
[00:55:26] on this at this point. It's just like, that's the only fucking thing that works now. It's
[00:55:30] everything is AI summary. Okay. Corporate, corporate and trade groups. Third way has received funding
[00:55:37] from entities, including the NCTA, Pharma, pharmaceutical research and manufacturers of
[00:55:41] America, securities industry and financial markets association, their donors and foundations.
[00:55:46] Reported supporters include Bernard and, and Spitzer charitable trust. Bernard and Irene
[00:55:50] Schwartz foundation individuals. The board and supporters include wealthy investors and donors
[00:55:55] such as David Horvitz, Rachel Pritzker, lobbying firms, utilize lobbying firms like Peck Madigan,
[00:56:01] whatever, funding structure, it's a 501C4 and a 501C3, which accept contributions from donor
[00:56:08] advised funds. They don't generally disclose their donors publicly, however, let's look at the
[00:56:13] profile summary here. Okay, so third way, third way is, is invested, okay, third way is invested in
[00:56:27] maintaining, and this is self described, maintaining a moderate perspective that is pro-billionaire,
[00:56:33] pro-corporation within the Democratic Party. Like that's what their job is, right? Their mission
[00:56:40] as a national think tank and advocacy organization champions moderate policy and political ideas.
[00:56:46] They have openly stated all the way back on March 1st, 2026 that their mission is to stop AOC.
[00:56:53] Their goal is to stop the left flank resurgence within the party. They do not want,
[00:57:02] they do not want a Bernie Sanders style candidate to be running the Democratic party to be the most
[00:57:09] You sound libtarded for real. Yes.
[00:57:17] That's me. So, they obviously don't have any real motion. Their videos get like 100 views,
[00:57:24] right? Like their videos are motionless for the most part, but they're propped up by mainstream
[00:57:29] media because they are a vehicle for moneyed interest, right? They do these massive, they
[00:57:39] do these like, you know, DC, these DC festivals, right? They fund other groups as well. Oftentimes,
[00:57:49] to run these sorts of like better things are not possible as conferences, right? And in
[00:57:54] those conferences, they often pay people to come and speak in front of these audiences.
[00:58:00] They put these people in front of wealthy donors. This is how it works, okay? Like their
[00:58:06] organic reach is, you know, approximately 100 people. But they are 100 of the wealthiest
[00:58:14] people in the country. And obviously, politicians want that money.
[00:58:21] want those endorsements. Politicians care quite a bit about winning their elections and they know
[00:58:26] the only way to do so is by being in the pocket of corporate interests. And third way is the
[00:58:31] facilitator of these relationships, okay? If you want to understand a bright future for the
[00:58:37] Democrats or look at the shaky past of the Democratic Party post Clinton or during Clinton and beyond,
[00:58:44] Third way has its fingerprints in everything that the Democrats have done as far as leaning
[00:58:51] heavily into, leaning heavily into being a more moderate party, constantly conceding
[00:58:57] on culture war issues of the Republicans, and primarily being invested in championing
[00:59:04] the oligopoly, the corporate oligarchy that dominates American politics and puts your
[00:59:10] interests second. Right? That's it. They don't have any real investment in democracy. They
[00:59:18] don't have any real investment in the Democrats winning necessarily. They are just, they are just
[00:59:26] the corporate vehicle for the Democrats side. Okay. There's a million of them on the Republican side,
[00:59:33] but this is basically like the corporate one, the corporate lobbying wing in the Democratic party
[00:59:39] side. What is this? Oh, yeah. This was their response to the 2024 loss, takeaways on why
[00:59:49] Democrats have a cultural disconnect with the working class, overemphasis on identity politics,
[00:59:53] the faculty lounge problem, failure to prioritize economic concerns. Yeah, except their failure to,
[01:00:00] the Democratic Party's failure to prioritize economic concerns stems from Third Way's impact,
[01:00:05] Ironically enough, allowing the far left to define the party, all this stuff, right?
[01:00:18] Yeah, takeaways on why Democrats are not trusted by the working class, vilification of wealth.
[01:00:25] Really, that's what the problem was that Kamala Harris wasn't too pro-billionaire.
[01:00:30] These guys don't know what real people want, okay? These guys don't know how real people feel. I can
[01:00:40] say that vilification of greed, they're too angry at the greedy. Anyway, third way is,
[01:00:51] they got $31 million in revenue in 2024 and their expense were $24.5 million. But it's not just the
[01:00:59] the amount of money that they're dumping. And they're dumping a lot more money this time around,
[01:01:02] okay? And their goal is to basically thwart some sort of like AOC run, not just AOC, but
[01:01:16] any kind of, basically any kind of insurgent left candidacy.
[01:01:24] They don't want the Democratic Party to become a party that works in the interest of the
[01:01:33] working class.
[01:01:34] They don't want that.
[01:01:35] They want to maintain the current corporate stranglehold over the Democratic Party.
[01:01:38] That's their job.
[01:01:39] And that's why they're attacking me so aggressively, so viciously.
[01:01:44] And my point is this, if they were honest, if Matt Bennett, who apparently makes as Secretary
[01:01:53] and executive vice president of public affairs, $379,000 and $453,379,453 comp plus 41,140.
[01:02:06] Okay. Or all these other fucking people that make this kind of money to get like 200 YouTube
[01:02:11] views. Okay. Insane amounts of money. Connecting Democrats with wealthy benefactors, right?
[01:02:23] If he was being honest, he would simply say I'm backed by the corporate wing of the party.
[01:02:31] My job is to facilitate relationships with Big Pharma, with ExxonMobil, with numerous
[01:02:39] other wealthy oligarchs to make sure that Democrats are basically a flesh puppet for
[01:02:47] their desires, and someone like Hassan is a massive threat to our project.
[01:02:57] If more and more Democrats realize that this method is successful in both fundraising and
[01:03:05] achieving doorknockers, like getting people to be genuinely invested in these campaigns,
[01:03:11] If someone like Hassan, who is not beholden to the same corporate interests, can come
[01:03:18] in and talk directly to campaigns, have a direct line of communication with elected
[01:03:22] representatives, if he can start like winning seats and start changing the ideological makeup
[01:03:29] of the Democratic Party, this will be a huge problem for us.
[01:03:34] Because I will no longer be able to justify my $471,000 a year salary because it's going
[01:03:41] to frustrate all of these incredibly wealthy donors, that the Democrats are no longer responsive
[01:03:48] to their needs, but instead responsive to the needs of the working class.
[01:03:52] And that's it. That's it. That's literally it. That is the whole point, okay? That's
[01:04:01] their whole purpose here. And all of this other stuff is varnish. All this other stuff
[01:04:08] is additional silliness that they add on to try to disparage the messenger because they cannot
[01:04:16] tackle the message. Graham Plattner's victory in the Democratic Party primary in Maine was a great
[01:04:24] example of this, right? Obviously, I didn't do much on that side at all, but it doesn't matter.
[01:04:31] like he represents this change within the party.
[01:04:35] He represents a more responsive politics that even 65 plus-year-old white ladies want in the suburbs,
[01:04:45] like they love Grant Platner. And this is terrifying because Janet Mills was supposed to be the safe
[01:04:52] choice, the establishment Democrat, that is the governor of the state, that is being backed by
[01:04:59] all of these corporate interests being backed by Chuck Schumer, losing to a random insurgency
[01:05:07] campaign from a guy who had no political office prior, no experience prior, all of a sudden,
[01:05:17] he's just going out and talking to the voters and he's putting numbers on the board. This was,
[01:05:21] this was a huge defeat.
[01:05:29] The very fact that I had nothing to do with Graham Platner at all, and yet, Graham Platner
[01:05:41] was so successful, also proves once again that this is not about me.
[01:05:46] I'm not like a singular force in this country's politics, but instead this is a very real,
[01:05:54] Organic anger that a lot of Democrats feel and there are candidates that they are willing
[01:06:03] There are candidates
[01:06:06] That are willing to bet on these insurgencies
[01:06:12] Because they feel like people like Grand Planner are more responsive to their needs their demands
[01:06:20] Okay
[01:06:24] So that's it. People are saying enough. Now, the same mistake is also being committed by
[01:06:37] the far right reactionaries as well. When AOC comes out and makes a totally normal statement
[01:06:44] about like how billionaires are not earning, you know, they don't earn a billion dollars
[01:06:49] uh... by the normal way the normal design
[01:06:52] and that the very fact that you've made a billion dollars means that you've
[01:06:56] you know cut corners done some unethical things
[01:06:59] uh...
[01:07:02] it's uh... virtually impossible to generate a billion dollars by uh... you
[01:07:06] know working a regular job
[01:07:12] when she comes out and says something that most americans uh... intrinsically
[01:07:16] understand and also agree with
[01:07:18] You don't have to be a card carrying ideologically loyal Marxist Leninist or something to recognize
[01:07:25] that a billion dollars is an unfathomable amount of wealth accumulation and it's genuinely
[01:07:34] broken.
[01:07:35] Like if the system is genuinely broken that there are so many billionaires, right?
[01:07:39] Most people feel this way.
[01:07:40] Most people understand it.
[01:07:42] Most people recognize that this is a level of wealth accumulation that immediately proves
[01:07:50] that the system is broken.
[01:07:54] So when you turn around and say billionaires are not working a billion times harder than
[01:07:57] you, most people agree with that.
[01:08:09] So it's great that the Republicans are actively positioning themselves as being pro billionaires
[01:08:20] and pro corporations.
[01:08:21] As a matter of fact, Donald Trump, in spite of his billionaire status, was a towering
[01:08:28] figure in American politics on the right because he never did that, okay?
[01:08:34] Donald Trump will be like, as a billionaire, I bought all these politicians and now I'm
[01:08:37] unbought and not corruptible. And that's why you should vote for me, because I'm gonna
[01:08:42] care about your, I'm gonna care about your perspective. I'm gonna make sure nobody touches
[01:08:46] your social security, right? I'm gonna drain the swamp. I'm gonna attack how corrupt Washington,
[01:08:54] D.C. is. Now, of course, he didn't follow through on those promises, but the very fact that he
[01:08:58] made those promises was unique, especially from a Republican perspective.
[01:09:11] So people are looking for this. People are looking for this kind of statement, right?
[01:09:17] They want it. They recognize there's real problems in the system, and they want someone
[01:09:22] who will address those problems. So anytime that these Republicans come out as the pro-billionaire
[01:09:28] side, I think they're chipping away at their base. Okay, if you are white working class,
[01:09:36] West Virginia used to be a Democrat voter, now you vote for the Republicans. And you
[01:09:43] hear in the aftermath of the 10 years of Trump, you hear Republicans now turning back to pivot
[01:09:49] into the pro-billionaire category, you're gonna realize real quick that the country club Republicans
[01:09:56] never actually went away. Now, some people do have that fealty, that peasant mindset,
[01:10:01] where they do actually think that the billionaires deserve it, right? Some poor people do feel
[01:10:05] this way, certainly. But not many of them do.
[01:10:12] So it's country roads, not country club. No, no, no, I'm talking about a specific type
[01:10:18] of Republican. Republicans for the longest time were country club Republicans. They were
[01:10:22] elitists they were entitled they had genuine and open disdain for the working class they didn't even
[01:10:27] engage in this kind of like populism sloppulism
[01:10:35] yeah nick went to said he's voting blue November i don't know if he will and it
[01:10:38] doesn't make him lose of a massive human garbage what are you talking about you're
[01:10:41] getting duped by a fucking avowed neo-nazi what the hell's wrong with you
[01:10:47] Please don't do that.
[01:10:50] Oh my god, Nick Fuentes has been on and off the Trump train a million times over.
[01:10:55] Y'all are silly if you think that there's anything sincere there beyond Nick Fuentes trying to boost his own personal profile,
[01:11:02] knowing full well that there are a lot of liberals who will highlight Nick Fuentes' go see even Nick Fuentes doesn't like Trump.
[01:11:09] Don't give fools like that the time of day, okay?
[01:11:29] be gullible.
[01:11:39] What's your point, Lee? Elon Musk has deserved every single penny of the money he's made.
[01:11:45] Jeff Bezos? Absolutely not. That was the most lucrative money he's had ever made. They are
[01:11:51] making money off the American taxpayer up in the American government after deals with
[01:11:55] I don't know why you're
[01:11:57] sharing this.
[01:11:58] It's not.
[01:11:59] It has made our standard of
[01:12:00] living because capitalism has
[01:12:01] a moral argument that needs to
[01:12:02] be better.
[01:12:03] It has made our standard of
[01:12:04] living better than any other
[01:12:05] group of people in any other
[01:12:06] time.
[01:12:07] And I would say, who's
[01:12:08] standard of living, Lydia?
[01:12:09] Who's standard of living?
[01:12:10] I don't know if he's a
[01:12:11] trillionaire, because guess
[01:12:12] what?
[01:12:13] With his money, he's
[01:12:14] literally letting blind
[01:12:15] people see, he's letting
[01:12:16] paralyzed people walk.
[01:12:17] I want him to have the
[01:12:18] money, not Elizabeth Warren,
[01:12:19] who's going to funnel it to
[01:12:20] fraud.
[01:12:21] He's letting blind people see
[01:12:22] and paralyze people walk.
[01:12:23] What are we doing?
[01:12:24] I think what are we doing?
[01:12:28] The greatest counter to this is everything that we're doing, everything that Elon Musk
[01:12:32] is taking credit for, could just as easily be publicly funded.
[01:12:37] As a matter of fact, all around the world it is publicly funded, even in the United
[01:12:41] States of America, a big chunk of the new inventions happening in the medical field
[01:12:46] are also coming from publicly funded research.
[01:12:49] Elon Musk is simply taking credit for something that he played no role in.
[01:12:54] you as a stooge for corporations is leaning into that narrative. Elon Musk doesn't do
[01:13:00] shit, he just tweets all day, okay? He tweets white nationalists, screeds all day, and complains
[01:13:07] about people not liking him. It's actually scientists that are working on some of these
[01:13:11] initiatives, many of which originate from publicly funded research. And as a matter
[01:13:16] of fact, publicly funded research would probably not have the profit motive and therefore be
[01:13:22] safer in the research that they're conducting if you're going to talk about
[01:13:27] Neuralink. This of course is extra silly considering that you're a Republican
[01:13:33] and you guys talk about Bill Gates microchipping people while you're
[01:13:36] simultaneously defending Elon Musk actively trying to microchip people's
[01:13:42] brains. Don't really understand that either. The idea that these sorts of
[01:13:47] innovations happen as a consequence of capitalism is a lie. It's never been the
[01:13:51] case. Okay. It's also extra messed up to advance this lie when Elon Musk is most famously known
[01:14:00] for working in the administration to cut medical research alongside hundreds of thousands of jobs
[01:14:07] that kept Americans safe, that ensured that American meat was safe to consume, right?
[01:14:12] All the stuff that he did with his doge cuts, which turned out to be a leaky faucet,
[01:14:17] showed that Elon Musk is not even a remotely competent person and genuinely a cancerous individual
[01:14:23] when it comes to American innovation and American prosperity. It's unbelievable.
[01:14:34] He is one of the most corrupt individuals. His experiences within the current administration
[01:14:41] show what many Americans already knew that like this Trump administration is not invested in
[01:14:47] American prosperity at all. They're just destroying the country and robbing all of us blind.
[01:14:54] Firing good government workers along the way as well. Good government workers that have
[01:14:59] engaged in lifelong service to ensure that, you know, you know when a tornado is coming,
[01:15:04] right? To ensure that, to ensure that when you go to the grocery store and you're purchasing
[01:15:12] meat, you know that meat is safe to eat. Okay. These are robber barons that have unprecedented
[01:15:23] access to the government, unlike ever before. And your job is to defend them. Your job is
[01:15:30] to defend them destroying the country. And then you sit there and you act like the left
[01:15:35] This is actually not invested in success.
[01:16:02] Not only that, but Elon Musk is also the number one welfare queen if you want to call it that.
[01:16:08] What is this?
[01:16:09] Instead of violent revolution, maybe you try to persuade a lot more people to vote for
[01:16:12] Democrats and Republicans worth a try.
[01:16:14] It's a JFK quote, Sarah.
[01:16:15] I know, Matthew, it doesn't change my point.
[01:16:17] Law, you didn't know, and you don't have a point.
[01:16:20] You're suggesting doing something that's been done many, many of times.
[01:16:23] You, as you're a valedict, Democrats, embarrassing, you spent your whole career in this space
[01:16:26] and are still so bad at this.
[01:16:28] And your solution is what?
[01:16:29] like you lost your own party to the likes of Donald Trump and still have the gall to
[01:16:32] think you have anything to offer other than cautionary tales, recognize their ideas are
[01:16:35] flawed and I'm popular and trying to real job like the rest of us.
[01:16:39] My job for the last decade has been working to defeat Trump. So yeah, okay. And you failed.
[01:16:47] Why would you admit that you failed? Your job has been a failure. That's the point that
[01:16:52] these guys are making. You know, maybe we try something different this time, right?
[01:17:02] Dem and GOP ribs go on CNN, the cry about Hassan, Piker, Jake,
[01:17:05] Taber. We can't pretend the normalization of corrosive.
[01:17:08] Mum, Donnie and the anti semites.
[01:17:12] American thinker, a deplorable subscribers of the New York times SF
[01:17:15] gate, free press, Abdullah. Sayed dispatch.
[01:17:19] Dispatch rise, anti-zionism with a dead end for Palsad is nice.
[01:17:40] Republicans will eviscerate the democratic process through voter suppression, gerrymandering,
[01:17:43] overruling legitimate redistricting, and libs will suitly like all we can do is hashtag
[01:17:47] vote, smile.
[01:17:48] funniest thing about this is that their only argument is go vote and yet they're abysmal
[01:17:52] and actually motivating voters to do exactly that. Also, this conversation is taking place
[01:17:58] after people did go out and vote and they won, okay? People in Virginia went out and they voted
[01:18:07] for a redistricting in a referendum and the Republican forces in the country were able
[01:18:13] to overwrite that vote by way of the Supreme Court in the state of Virginia. That's the whole
[01:18:19] fucking argument. My argument is if you keep suppressing people's wishes, suppressing people's
[01:18:25] demands, if you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable, which is
[01:18:30] what JFK also said, right? If you show people that the democratic process doesn't work when
[01:18:40] voting is a pressure valve for people, they are going to take matters in their own hands.
[01:18:47] And if you don't want that chaos to unfold in the country, then you have to fucking make sure that
[01:18:54] these institutions remain, that people still have confidence in these institutions. You have to fight
[01:19:01] back. Three million people went out and voted for this redistricting initiative, and they won that
[01:19:10] vote. So why is it that there is like unaccountable people wearing robes doing politics while wearing
[01:19:18] robes ironically enough that get to override the demand of the majority? That's what democracy is.
[01:19:31] No, Zanya, I understand fighting back with Violate. Yeah, this is excellent creative thinking on how
[01:19:37] to overturn the redistricting decision, lower the retirement age of justice on the VA Supreme
[01:19:41] Court and wish they all have to go appoint new judges, rehear the case, get a different ruling.
[01:19:49] Anyway, let's get to Victory Day and a lot of people are chirping about it. I've seen a lot of
[01:19:54] AFD people openly come out and basically say that like Victory Day was no liberation for Germans.
[01:20:01] They should have a little bit more shame, in my opinion, to be so openly pro-Nazi, but
[01:20:08] I guess we're living in different and unprecedented times in many respects.
[01:20:12] President Vladimir Putin lays flowers on the tomb of the unknown soldier, as Russia marks
[01:20:18] Victory Day in Moscow, commemorating the Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany.
[01:20:24] The Russian leader used the occasion to rally support for troops fighting in Ukraine.
[01:20:28] The great feat of the generation of victors inspires the soldiers carrying out the goals
[01:20:36] of the special military operation today.
[01:20:40] They are confronting an aggressive force armed and supported by the entire NATO block.
[01:20:46] And despite this, our heroes are moving forward.
[01:20:49] It's a little bit of an asshole move, let's be real, comparing what the army did.
[01:20:59] Ironically enough, many Ukrainians for the record in those fronts who fought and died
[01:21:07] to defeat the Nazi scourge as he's comparing it to what he's doing in Ukraine.
[01:21:13] Okay, man.
[01:21:14] Okay, buddy.
[01:21:15] Okay, buddy.
[01:21:16] The parade was more pared down than in previous years.
[01:21:22] For the first time in nearly two decades, no tanks or heavy military hardware rolled
[01:21:27] across Red Square.
[01:21:29] A scaled back display held under tight security.
[01:21:32] From the Western media's perspective, of course, the whole point of this is like, oh,
[01:21:43] Ukraine has actually created significant deterrence that they had to engage in like a mutual pact
[01:21:51] to cease fire agreement arrangement and even then they had to do this like scaled back
[01:21:55] victory day parade.
[01:21:56] A series of long-range Ukrainian attacks inside Russia.
[01:22:01] Foreign dignitaries were also few and far between.
[01:22:04] Only Moscow's most fervent allies, notably the leaders of Belarus, Malaysia, Laos and
[01:22:09] Slovakia made the trip.
[01:22:11] The parade took place under a U.S. broker three days he's fired between Russia and Ukraine,
[01:22:16] running from May 9th to 11th.
[01:22:19] Following negotiations, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy ordered true-
[01:22:24] Also a lot of Ukrainians in the Nazi side are in a roll or two.
[01:22:26] Come on man, that's literally not true.
[01:22:30] Okay?
[01:22:31] Yes, they have a Nazi pass, but a far, far larger number of Ukrainians fought and died
[01:22:38] to defeat the Nazi scourge.
[01:22:39] Okay?
[01:22:40] be ridiculous here. Like objectively, you're objectively wrong. And you are not only objectively
[01:22:49] wrong, but you're also kind of leaning into the to the Banderites and their a great their
[01:22:56] sentiment about World War Two when you when you engage in this kind of historic revisionism.
[01:23:04] So if you're frustrated about like the the current dynamic of Ukrainian nationalism,
[01:23:08] Whitewash or not even whitewashing. I guess like what would it be Nazi washing their own personal anti-nazi history?
[01:23:17] If you're frustrated by that then don't engage in it. Okay?
[01:23:20] The truth you mean wait, I mean, it's crazy. What are we doing?
[01:23:25] Far more Ukrainians fought to defeat the Nazis then then collaborated with the Nazis. What are we talking about?
[01:23:31] It's not even a question. It's not to target the gathering
[01:23:34] For the humanitarian purposes outlined in the negotiations with the American side on the
[01:23:40] 8th of May 2026, I hereby decree to authorize the holding of a parade in Moscow on the 9th
[01:23:47] of May 2026.
[01:23:50] For the duration of the parade the area of Red Square shall be excluded from the plan
[01:23:55] for the use of Ukrainian weapons.
[01:23:57] Russia and Ukraine have also agreed to use the pause to exchange 1,000 prisoners of war
[01:24:02] on each side. But despite this cooperation neither the modern Russian Federation nor the current
[01:24:10] Ukrainian government are carrying the torch of the USSR. Vladimir Putin's symbolic posturing here
[01:24:22] about the glories of the Red Army in defeating the Nazi scourge are simple propaganda.
[01:24:27] there I mean he's he's not exactly fond of even Lenin which is shocking so
[01:24:38] negotiations to end the war remain caught in gridlock leaving a lasting
[01:24:43] peace still out of reach
[01:24:50] anyway yeah Shepa Balava is life for his in Moscow you give us a sense of how
[01:24:57] this parade has been scaled down at this token's very little armor being shown
[01:25:03] and it's because most of it's been destroyed apparently.
[01:25:10] Ukraine is a wannabe Israel it's pathetic yeah ironic because that's
[01:25:14] literally Vladimir Putin's goal as well. Vladimir Putin's like we want to be your
[01:25:18] Israel. Why won't you let us be your Israel? I mean, at this point, it's a little look.
[01:25:27] At this point, it's a wash. I'm not one of these people that just says, like,
[01:25:36] Russia is an ideologically anti-fascist, anti-imperialist country. I don't think that's true.
[01:25:43] I think they have their own personal goals. I think that, I mean, I despise NATO. I do think that NATO has been a
[01:25:52] cancerous force of American Empire advancing American interests. I don't care too much about how all of these countries in the
[01:26:01] Eastern Bloc were sincerely worried about Russian imperialism, and that's the reason why they joined it. Like, it's just, it's, you know,
[01:26:08] It doesn't matter. At the end of the day, NATO is a force of American imperialism.
[01:26:14] Mark Rutte has openly said the quiet part out loud in numerous instances. The idea that there are
[01:26:23] out and about neo-Nazi forces that are a part of the Ukrainian military doesn't change that,
[01:26:30] that doesn't change the reality of Russia's unjustifiable invasion of Ukraine, it's just
[01:26:39] not true.
[01:26:40] Like Russia's ambitious in Ukraine, according to what Vladimir Putin has openly stated time
[01:26:48] and time again, is to one, put a dent in Western Empire, certainly, there is truth to that,
[01:26:54] to create a security perimeter and to ensure that Ukraine never joins NATO.
[01:26:58] Sure, there's some truth to that, but ultimately is to expand Russia and make Russia a global
[01:27:05] power one more time.
[01:27:09] Not dissimilar to the way that the Russian Empire operated.
[01:27:12] It's not like these guys are genuinely trying to purge Ukraine of God, you're so lived up
[01:27:21] when it comes to Ukraine, hard to believe you don't support NATO, as Brezhnev's eyebrow.
[01:27:26] No, I just don't trust Putin. I don't, I don't, I listen to what he has to say and I take it at face value and he's very clear on this as well.
[01:27:36] Well, it's just kind of silly to hear what Putin has to say about this and what his broader
[01:27:56] ambitions are and what his actions have done in both Ukraine and the impact that it's had
[01:28:04] on Russia as well. And you're over here thinking like, like, I think a lot of people don't
[01:28:10] understand like critical support means you have to be critical. Okay. Like you have to
[01:28:15] be critical. I think some of you think critical support means the support is critical. It's
[01:28:23] necessary, like unconditional support. That's not, that's not how this works. Okay. I have
[01:28:32] openly talked about the neo-nazi, the neo-nazi brigades.
[01:28:55] I have openly talked about the Azar brigades and the nationalistic fervor that has grown
[01:29:02] And it's been a genuine danger to Ukraine over and over again
[01:29:09] Certainly before the invasion certainly after the invasion is part of the reason why people say I'm a fucking Vladimir Putin supporter
[01:29:17] Okay
[01:29:24] Problem however is that I also explained
[01:29:28] Time and time again that if you invade a country
[01:29:31] All you are doing is galvanizing those forces. The most nationalistic forces will become the great emancipators.
[01:29:40] And that's precisely what Vladimir Putin did.
[01:29:44] And as far as like aesthetic symbolism goes, it's not like the fucking Wagner group is shy about sometimes wearing similar garb themselves.
[01:29:56] not just the Wagner group either. There's plenty of people that are
[01:29:59] ultra-nationalists on both sides of this conflict.
[01:30:11] So you have to look at the situation. Was there a better way to deal with this
[01:30:15] problem? Because I do understand that there is a real problem with turning a
[01:30:22] a country that is within striking distance of the Kremlin into another NATO base.
[01:30:27] NATO encroachment is a real issue for Russia's security concerns.
[01:30:33] That makes 100% sense. That makes total sense, okay?
[01:30:39] So, the question is, was there a better way to deal with it?
[01:30:44] And the answer is yes, okay?
[01:30:48] My perspective always has been that Russia should have continued to solidify their economic ties to Europe,
[01:30:59] and continued demanding the same things that they were demanding initially, like abiding by the Minsk Agreement.
[01:31:09] This would have been beneficial for Russia, it would have been beneficial for Ukraine, it would have been beneficial for every country.
[01:31:15] And instead, they lost this unbelievably stupid military operation.
[01:31:23] They took some Ls initially.
[01:31:25] It didn't go the way that they wanted it to go.
[01:31:28] They weren't able to take over the entirety of Ukraine.
[01:31:31] But it's very clear at this point that in spite of the entire western world opposing Russia's incursions into Ukraine,
[01:31:38] they took significant losses and yet still at the end of the day won the
[01:31:45] the annexation of at least 25% of the country specifically Eastern Ukraine.
[01:31:53] Why would they listen to you Bozo? I mean of course they're not gonna listen to me
[01:31:57] I'm just giving you my opinion on it.
[01:32:00] How does it make sense at all? It's not like NATO is ever gonna invade Russia. Come on man.
[01:32:10] That's crazy. Why is it that there's no equivalence to a NATO style situation? Like think about when
[01:32:25] the USSR put nukes inside of Cuba after the US put nukes in Turkey.
[01:32:32] Think about the tensions at that point.
[01:32:36] A country 90 miles off the coastline of the United States of America was now
[01:32:42] operating like a military base. Okay.
[01:32:46] Americans did not favor that at all.
[01:32:48] And that wasn't even necessarily the same type of expansion that you see with NATO.
[01:32:53] That was just to allow, that was literally to allow Cuba to have sovereignty.
[01:33:02] As America consistently, not only aided and embedded the Batista regime, but also engaged
[01:33:09] in economic warfare and direct military warfare with this country of, at the time it was like
[01:33:15] less than 10 million people, the tiny countries, the tiny island nation off the coastline
[01:33:22] of the imperial hegemon and this this country the united states america is like constantly
[01:33:27] an ever present threat and think about how america reacted to that
[01:33:40] so of course russia has understandable security concerns the notion that like uh you know nato
[01:33:44] is never going to invade russia is a silly one like nato forces are not going to invade russia
[01:33:48] But it it literally ends up cordoning off Russia
[01:33:54] Why do you think we have so many military bases around Iran? Why do you think we have so many military bases around China?
[01:33:59] Why do you think we have so many military bases around Russia?
[01:34:02] What do you think the purpose of that is?
[01:34:06] To have a tickle party
[01:34:09] No, it's it's a direct threat
[01:34:18] Well, yeah, we used to have military bases surrounding Iran. Some of them have turned into craters.
[01:34:25] We should have never, in a million years, engaged Russia in this way.
[01:34:48] We could have charted a totally different path, a totally different peaceful path with
[01:34:54] Russia.
[01:34:55] That's a silly sentiment, okay?
[01:35:00] And Russia absolutely should not have invaded Ukraine regardless.
[01:35:06] But now, the way things work, the way things operate is that Russia has been able to harden
[01:35:12] their positions inside of eastern Ukraine.
[01:35:17] You're so wrong about Cuba.
[01:35:18] What do you mean?
[01:35:20] Wrong?
[01:35:21] You're so wrong about Cuba.
[01:35:23] What am I wrong about Cuba?
[01:35:33] It isn't a tiny nation.
[01:35:34] The only tiny nation is Israel, the size of New Jersey, true, true, Israel, only nation,
[01:35:44] Israel, not just tiny nation, Israel, only nation, size of New Jersey.
[01:35:50] Why do you hate Israel?
[01:35:51] You must love Israel.
[01:35:52] Well, that's right, as we just heard, this day is very, very important for all the people
[01:36:00] of Russia.
[01:36:01] It's absolutely sacred here as there is literally no household whose family members, whose ancestors
[01:36:06] rather didn't fight or struggle during that war and the USSR suffered enormous losses.
[01:36:13] And well, as we also heard, the Victory Parade in Red Square is an integral part of Ladiniputins
[01:36:19] Russia. It's been held every single year since the early 2000s. And for the first time in
[01:36:25] almost 20 years there will be no military hardware at the parade. Some voices here say
[01:36:30] that tanks are needed at the front and not at the parade. And the Kremlin actually cited
[01:36:36] a terrorist threat and Ukrainian drones. And the Russian Ministry of Defense earlier threatened
[01:36:41] Ukraine with a massive retaliatory strike on the center of Kiev in the event of attacks
[01:36:46] on Moscow and the parade in particular today.
[01:36:50] Last night, President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky issued an ironic decree permitting
[01:36:55] Russia to hold a parade today.
[01:36:59] And, well, to be honest, security measures in the Russian capital are simply unprecedented.
[01:37:04] Reportedly, on the eve of Victory Day, air defense systems were brought to the Russian
[01:37:09] capital from other regions propping up Moscow's air defenses.
[01:37:13] gunners and snipers are on duty in the Kremlin towers and in the city-centre mobile internet
[01:37:22] is being jammed in Moscow and not just in Moscow and other cities as well in St. Petersburg
[01:37:27] and other large Russian cities. And, well, messengers are disabled. The authorities even
[01:37:34] promised to turn off text messages and, well, other means of communication.
[01:37:40] guests of the parade are expected to be the presidents of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, as
[01:37:46] well as the president of Laos, king of the king of Malaysia, the head of the Republic
[01:37:53] of Serbska, and the leaders of the unrecognized breakaway republics of Hazi and South Asetia.
[01:37:59] And we also know that Robert Fizzo, the prime minister of Slovakia, is also here in Moscow,
[01:38:03] but he earlier said that he wouldn't be present at the parade.
[01:38:08] and earlier the Kremlin by phone revoked
[01:38:11] accreditations already issued to foreign journalists
[01:38:14] for the parade.
[01:38:15] They called us out just zero as Moscow bureau as well
[01:38:17] and canceled our accreditation for the parade.
[01:38:19] So that's why we're reporting from the office
[01:38:22] from the studio today.
[01:38:23] Yulia, three days ceasefire.
[01:38:25] What can we expect after this?
[01:38:27] We've seen Ukraine step up its drone attacks
[01:38:29] on Russia recently and there's a feeling
[01:38:32] they're gaining the upper hand slowly.
[01:38:38] Well, as we understand that Russia is not going to make any concessions, and it's agreed
[01:38:47] with the truth, which is in force right now, and it's agreed to exchange prisons of war,
[01:38:55] 1,000 people from each side.
[01:38:57] But still the Russian authorities report that a number of regions have been attacked by
[01:39:02] Ukrainian drones, despite the ceasefire.
[01:39:05] Well, and there were many attempts to attack Moscow, not just Moscow, but Yaroslav, Rostov and Don in the south, the city of Perm in the Urals and the Republic of Chechnya.
[01:39:16] Oil refineries are mainly subject to attacks. Well, the city of Perm was attacked for the third time in the last week.
[01:39:24] On social networks, people post videos of fires at refineries as well as their neighborhoods.
[01:39:30] And basically they talk about environmental damage.
[01:39:33] Dozens of airports throughout Russia have been closed.
[01:39:37] Well, in the south of Russia, the country in particular, also here in Moscow, airports,
[01:39:41] are constantly closed due to drone attacks, hundreds of flights
[01:39:46] have been postponed.
[01:39:47] What ceasefire are they talking about? They issued a three-day ceasefire
[01:39:50] between Ukraine and Russia so they could hold this victory day parade.
[01:39:54] Because I think Ukraine said that they were going to drop bombs
[01:39:58] on the parade or something. And then Russia was like, if you do that, we'll literally
[01:40:03] blow up your capital.
[01:40:07] You cancelled thousands of people can't fly away for hours. So Ukrainian drone strikes
[01:40:17] reached the Urals and well, not just the border regions of Russia, but well further inland.
[01:40:24] And probably there is a mix of understanding of security measures and feeling anxiety and
[01:40:30] uncertainty among people.
[01:40:31] But obviously people are really tired.
[01:40:34] They feel fatigue about this war and about the current situation.
[01:40:38] Yulia, thank you so much.
[01:40:41] I'm not going to lie.
[01:40:46] If I'm Russia, I'm celebrating the fucking greatest victory over the Nazi scourge every
[01:40:51] year too.
[01:40:52] it doesn't even matter. Whatever they're doing now is irrelevant. You got to celebrate it,
[01:40:59] no matter what. You got to keep flexing that shit. I mean, 20 million people died, right?
[01:41:04] Even a larger number than that. Many Ukrainians, ironically enough, you got to keep flexing
[01:41:15] that victory. That's a big dub, which is really interesting because we look at what Russia
[01:41:24] is doing and we say, oh, they are posturing about how they defeated the Nazis, right?
[01:41:33] They're posturing about how they fucking defeated the Nazis. And then they're connecting it
[01:41:37] to their current military campaign. I wonder if there's another country that does that
[01:41:42] all the time. A country that has invaded a shit ton of other countries far away from
[01:41:54] their borders that constantly says, this time our enemy is just like the Nazis. Remember
[01:42:00] how we defeated the Nazis? Oh, that's right. It's the United States of America. Oh, we
[01:42:05] We gotta go fight, we gotta go defend the South Vietnamese against the scourge of the
[01:42:13] North Vietnamese, which is just like the Nazis.
[01:42:17] We gotta go and defend the South Koreans against the scourge of the North Koreans.
[01:42:23] The distinction that we created, the North Koreans that are just like the Nazis.
[01:42:30] We have to go and defeat the Taliban that are protecting, uh, uh, Osama bin Laden and
[01:42:40] lo and behold, wouldn't you know what?
[01:42:41] They're just like the Nazis.
[01:42:43] Um, we got to do the same thing with Saddam, just like the Nazis.
[01:42:46] We got to do the same thing with Iran.
[01:42:48] We got to do the same thing with Hamas.
[01:42:53] So Russia is in many respects, basically little America, they're like America in their
[01:42:59] own backyard. And perhaps that's the reason why we despise them so much, because it's
[01:43:04] like a mirror being held up against their face, actions that they engage in, in their
[01:43:10] own backyard. And the way that they communicate about these, the way that they justify these
[01:43:16] actions, no matter how ridiculous they may be, reminds us of ourselves, you know?
[01:43:33] The U.S. military says its forces fired on two Iran-flagged oil tankers trying to get
[01:43:38] past the U.S. blockade.
[01:43:40] Tensions remain high in the region after both the U.S. and Iran exchanged fire last week,
[01:43:44] Even though President Trump says the ceasefire there is quote, fascist and communist should
[01:43:48] both be condemned to be honest.
[01:43:50] Fuck authoritarianism.
[01:43:51] I love this guy.
[01:43:52] This is the Canadian centrist that cries in my chat all the time.
[01:43:56] My grandfather lost his leg in the Vietnam war.
[01:43:58] Can you not?
[01:43:59] Your grandfather took that fucking L, invading a country that he had no business being in.
[01:44:04] Yeah, sucks to suck.
[01:44:06] L, L grandpa.
[01:44:09] Okay.
[01:44:10] funny that you're also an Albertan Canadian who talks about Albertan separatism.
[01:44:22] Hey, here's a really cool way that your grandpa couldn't, that your grandpa could have two legs
[01:44:27] instead of one. Albertan separatist Canadian, not invade Vietnam. That was, that's one way.
[01:44:38] very funny this grandfather loss is like literally falling into a trap covered up by Ashutur in
[01:44:44] the middle of a jungle. Yeah. Meanwhile, this guy is spiritually following the same trap right
[01:44:49] now by being America's loyal servant once again, demanding that Alberta separate from Canada and
[01:44:57] become annexed American territory.
[01:45:08] Fuck, Carney, and I'm not trying to be American.
[01:45:23] Anyway.
[01:45:26] Yeah.
[01:45:28] Don't make me play the scoreboard. Okay, here, here it is.
[01:45:32] Monuments I read about in school. There's the Washington Monument.
[01:45:36] There's the Obama monument
[01:45:39] And there's the Vietnam War Memorial
[01:45:41] Hey, check out that Vietnamese guy giving a business to those Vietnam vets
[01:45:45] SCOREBORN! SCOREBORN!
[01:45:48] Oh, what happened to your friend?
[01:45:50] Hey, I know that guy. I killed him. He cried like a bitch!
[01:45:54] Vietnam! I'm undefeated!
[01:45:56] I mean, I don't like Carney either, but I assume you and I have a very different attitude on
[01:46:12] this on why you don't like Carney and why I don't like Carney are very different. We're
[01:46:19] coming at it from very different perspectives. Anyway, what I was gonna say is, what I was
[01:46:36] gonna say is to the Albertan separatist in the chat, okay, the Albertan separatist in
[01:46:45] chat who's still coping and saying he doesn't want to be, he doesn't want to be American.
[01:46:51] You are already spiritually American if you're an Albertan separatist, okay?
[01:46:59] But, uh, that's the communist should both be condemned.
[01:47:06] Fuck authoritarianism is really funny, okay?
[01:47:10] This concept is ridiculous.
[01:47:12] No, I don't think Communists should be condemned.
[01:47:16] Silly as fuck.
[01:47:17] No, there is no moral equivalence between Communism and Fascism.
[01:47:23] No matter how hard you try, you will never be able to swing it.
[01:47:27] And there was a time when this kind of attitude was left at all around the world.
[01:47:33] liberalism was very good at eviscerating that mentality, okay? And creating this
[01:47:44] like unique middle ground where they're like, no actually the the Nazis were bad
[01:47:50] but also so were the people that fucking fought and died to defeat the Nazis.
[01:47:54] not get the fuck out of here. It's bullshit.
[01:48:03] Still in effect. All this while another ceasefire is underway in the war between
[01:48:07] Russia and Ukraine. Aaron Navarro is at the White House with more. Aaron,
[01:48:11] good morning.
[01:48:13] Kelly, good morning. President Trump announced yesterday that fighting in the
[01:48:16] Russia-Ukraine war.
[01:48:18] I'm not a Hassan hater. I'm saying you're pro authoritarian.
[01:48:21] I'm not, man. I'm not. Okay. There is no government function that exists without authority.
[01:48:31] Saying someone is authoritarian is so stupid. Okay. You know what's authoritarian? You think
[01:48:36] the Canadian government is not authoritarian in the way that they, in the way that they
[01:48:40] treat the indigenous population? Do you think the American government is not authoritarian?
[01:48:45] You don't like Mark Carney, why don't you like Mark Carney?
[01:48:50] Authoritarian works for one generation that sets up for a Stalin figure.
[01:48:53] Oh my God.
[01:48:54] Okay, is China an authoritarian government from your perspective?
[01:48:59] Yes, right?
[01:49:02] And here they are proving material results for the working class.
[01:49:06] Every government is authoritarian.
[01:49:07] This sentiment around like, oh, this government is authoritarian, this government is not authoritarian
[01:49:11] is a stupid argument.
[01:49:13] Every fucking government is authoritarian.
[01:49:15] Every rule, every law that we have is technically authoritarian, okay?
[01:49:23] Every law that we have is technically authoritarian in the sense that they're stopping someone
[01:49:27] from doing something that they want to do, okay?
[01:49:30] But we all get together and agree on some of these laws being good, okay?
[01:49:36] Simply put, like for example, pedophiles want to predate on children.
[01:49:43] The government is technically authoritarian in the way that they stop pedophiles and
[01:49:47] predating on children, but we all agree on that.
[01:49:49] Well, we here agree on the government stopping pedophiles from predating on children.
[01:49:55] Some people think that that's authoritarian and try to stop that, right?
[01:49:59] Some people want to lower the age-inconset laws, for example.
[01:50:05] Okay?
[01:50:07] Every government is authoritarian.
[01:50:09] Every rule is an enforcement of authority.
[01:50:12] It's just a matter of, do we agree, is the majority in agreement that these rules are
[01:50:17] good or not?
[01:50:19] That's it.
[01:50:24] That's it.
[01:50:27] So authoritarian, I think, is a catch-all thing that liberals tell themselves to act as though
[01:50:34] their governments are not authoritarian.
[01:50:37] For the record, I'm not saying it's, you know, like all enforcement of governance is bad.
[01:50:43] I'm not saying that like authoritarian, uh, as a blank, I'm just simply saying authoritarian
[01:50:48] as a blanket statement is a silly distinction. That's an insane comparison. At least American
[01:50:54] presidents can be voted out. I'm sorry, there's not a convincing take. I know I will never be
[01:51:00] able to convince people. Okay. Like for example, the overwhelming majority of Americans don't
[01:51:06] want to fucking give money to Israel, yet your tax dollars are spent on murdering children overseas.
[01:51:14] Many Americans would rather spend those dollars here on American healthcare, on American schools.
[01:51:21] Good luck not paying your fucking taxes if you want to protest against that, and then you'll
[01:51:26] understand what authoritarianism truly looks like, okay? I'm simply describing what the social
[01:51:32] contract is, and what the other side of the social contract is, libertarians, for example,
[01:51:37] think all taxation is theft, and that the American government utilizing the monopoly
[01:51:42] of violence that the state has will literally, at gunpoint, force you to pay those taxes.
[01:51:53] Okay, look at North and South Korea, for example, I'd much rather live in one than the other.
[01:51:57] Anyway, thanks for responding again. The difference between North Korea and South Korea is unbelievable
[01:52:04] amounts of sanctions on North Korea. We don't know what North Korea would look like if they were
[01:52:08] able to participate in the global marketplace in a normal country. We don't know. As a matter
[01:52:13] of fact, in the aftermath of the Korean War, in spite of the American and allied forces
[01:52:18] that conducted a genocide in North Korea, in the immediate aftermath, North Korea was actually
[01:52:25] doing a lot better than South Korea was. Ironically enough, most people don't know this, of course.
[01:52:31] South Korea was a fucking military dictatorship that was slaughtering its civilians en masse,
[01:52:36] and you're over here talking about how like, oh, well, one country is much more livable than the
[01:52:41] other. Yeah, I agree. I agree. South Korea was not necessarily a much more livable nation state,
[01:52:49] and it still isn't necessarily a great place to live in. They, their own citizens call it hell.
[01:52:55] North Korea literally started the Korean War. Yeah, no. All of the wholesale slaughter of communist socialist trade unionists in South Korea was actually a self-defensive slaughter.
[01:53:09] A self-defensive slaughter that the South Korean military dictatorship engaged in.
[01:53:15] you know, and all of the carpet bombing of North Korea, the distinction that we designed for the
[01:53:23] record, that was also done in a self-defensive manner. This take is flopping because authoritarian
[01:53:32] doesn't just mean wielding some amount of authoritarian and political sciences,
[01:53:34] specific descriptor for countries where power is highly centralized. Yes,
[01:53:39] except there's plenty of violence that takes shape in countries that are unbelievably decentralized and I'm not just talking about America either I mean you have examples like Somalia for example okay I look at results and of course the the political the political science terminology that is deeply anti-communist is going to use this this perspective in an effort to
[01:54:06] use this perspective in an effort to disparage whatever kind of centralized authority.
[01:54:13] Famously, totalitarianism was coined by McCarthy, I used to conflate Nazism with communism.
[01:54:18] I'm sure something similar can be said about authoritarianism, like you have to double think
[01:54:21] to forget how authoritarian the US is with respect to the ISIS, the institutional anti-leftist
[01:54:25] slant, institutional Islamophobia, institutional transphobia, yeah.
[01:54:30] Like we currently have concentration camps that we have placed, like Alligator Alcatraz,
[01:54:36] slated the close. Okay. That was the Florida government taking taxpayer funds from Floridians
[01:54:45] and spending it so that they could have a fucking concentration camp surrounded by a
[01:54:48] moat with alligators in it, uh, where they put literally the overwhelming majority, uh,
[01:54:55] non-criminal migrants, non-criminal non-citizens in these horrifying conditions. We don't even
[01:55:01] have an account of what took place in alligator. Alcatraz. That happened on US soil and you're
[01:55:05] over here being like, you know, as authoritarian every other country, it's because you have
[01:55:11] a biased framework that you're operating off of.
[01:55:16] I don't make excuses for the, the dragnets that were implemented in Xinjiang, but you
[01:55:24] do make excuses for American and other liberal countries engaging in authoritarian actions.
[01:55:31] Okay.
[01:55:34] That's it. Yes, there is a real description for what the authoritarianism is or what totalitarianism
[01:55:42] is in political science. I know I studied it. Okay. I'm moving beyond that distinction,
[01:55:48] and I'm trying to explain to you that all governments enforce authority. All governments
[01:55:52] centralize power. All governments have a monopoly on violence. What you have to look at is whether
[01:55:58] people's material conditions are advancing or not.
[01:56:10] We talked a big deal about how, oh, in China you can't criticize the party.
[01:56:15] This is true.
[01:56:16] Okay?
[01:56:17] It's repression.
[01:56:19] It's, in my opinion, silly.
[01:56:23] Or even outright dangerous.
[01:56:25] But I think it's just as silly or outright dangerous that in the in the country of Germany
[01:56:38] currently you can't stay from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
[01:56:42] You go to jail, you go to prison and the in the last bastion of free speech around the
[01:56:48] world and the in the wealthiest nation upon the most powerful nation on the planet, Joe
[01:56:53] Biden, the Democrat, the liberal, put 3,500 student protesters in jail for the crime of
[01:57:07] holding peaceful protests on an issue that is now the majority, the majority position.
[01:57:13] They were right too early and they were punished for it.
[01:57:16] repression.
[01:57:36] Yesterday in the United States of America, in the state of Virginia,
[01:57:43] unelected judges decided to overthrow the democratic process, to subvert democracy.
[01:57:52] Three million Virginians voted to redraw their district maps.
[01:58:00] Why did they do this? Because the current president is unbelievably unpopular
[01:58:04] and knew that he was going to lose both the House of Representatives and the Senate.
[01:58:10] And this would create a check on his authoritarian power grab.
[01:58:16] So in an effort to avoid that, in an effort to avoid that, he wanted to game the system
[01:58:23] and secure comfortable seats in the state of Texas.
[01:58:29] So in order to continue having some semblance of democracy, some checks on the administration,
[01:58:38] through the democratic process in the midterm elections, Virginia Democrats decided to fight back.
[01:58:45] And then the Supreme Court in the state of Virginia decided, fuck the referendum, fuck the wishes of the majority.
[01:58:59] That's authoritarianism.
[01:59:11] All countries have these sorts of issues.
[01:59:14] I don't make excuses for foreign adversaries that have similar issues to us or in certain
[01:59:21] instances far worse issues than ours, but we have to look at their starting position.
[01:59:28] We have to analyze their material conditions. We have to look at wartime conditions. Are they
[01:59:33] constantly under threat by much more powerful forces? Is that a part of the reason why they have
[01:59:41] some state repression? Or is it just simply born out of being an evil country,
[01:59:47] okay, by having an evil authoritarian, totalitarian government?
[01:59:51] President Trump has paused this weekend as Russia celebrates Victory Day, commemorating
[02:00:05] World War II.
[02:00:06] But the attention is still on the run after a turbulent week on the Strait of Hormuz.
[02:00:12] I'd like to see it stop Russia and Ukraine, it's the worst thing since World War II in
[02:00:18] terms of life.
[02:00:19] President Trump said the three-day ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine was a personal
[02:00:23] request.
[02:00:24] We have a little period of time where they're not going to be killing people.
[02:00:27] I'd like to see a big extension.
[02:00:29] As part of the agreement, the two countries will swap 1,000 prisoners.
[02:00:33] And fighting will pause as Russia celebrates its victory.
[02:00:36] Day one, by the way, Donald Trump doing the damn thing, man.
[02:00:39] He really brought about peace.
[02:00:41] This weekend.
[02:00:42] But as Russia and Ukraine begin a short-term ceasefire, the one between the U.S. and the
[02:00:46] Iran is being tested by several firefights in the Strait of Hormuz this week.
[02:00:50] Trump says the ceasefire is still on and that he's waiting on Iran's response but
[02:00:55] restarting negotiations.
[02:00:56] Do you want to get the whole thing answered, not just individuals moving?
[02:01:01] Historically, ceasefires have seen various displays of military fire.
[02:01:07] CBS News national security contributor Sam Vinegrant.
[02:01:11] The question here is whether...
[02:01:12] Dude, he's trying his fucking best.
[02:01:13] I know I'm being too mean to the pedophile president.
[02:01:19] This tit for tat exchange of fire is going to outpace
[02:01:23] negotiations to actually establish a remiss sister
[02:01:26] and the war.
[02:01:27] The war has paralyzed the straight of our moves
[02:01:29] and global supply chains,
[02:01:31] leaving American farmers frustrated.
[02:01:33] Business Israel.
[02:01:35] apartheid is the most.
[02:01:38] Wait, did I accidentally, I can mob this person?
[02:01:41] No.
[02:01:43] apartheid is the most democratic form of governance. Israel is a democracy. Okay, guys, you're
[02:01:49] baiting one another at this point. Okay, stop baiting each other. Like, this person is
[02:01:56] obviously being sarcastic. Like, the point that he's making is like, Israel's an apartheid
[02:02:01] state that is democratically organized amongst the in-group to be an apartheid state. It's
[02:02:05] justified endlessly amongst the masses in Israel, right? The masses that actually do
[02:02:10] have the power to vote or have their voices be heard. And then the other guy is literally
[02:02:15] leaning into that bait and getting angry at that person.
[02:02:20] Rough. Almost every farmer in Iowa will tell you that they've had difficult times.
[02:02:30] The challenge comes obviously with the price.
[02:02:32] The price of your re-affertilizer used for vegetable crops has gone up 47% since the
[02:02:38] war began.
[02:02:39] Yeah, by the way, speaking of authoritarian or totalitarian governments, do you feel like your
[02:02:44] democratic wishes are being heard by the current American administration in this
[02:02:50] unbelievably stupid war that we're waging against Iran? Do you like it? Because I mean,
[02:02:57] I know the answer. The answer is in the polls. The polls say, no, they don't like it actually.
[02:03:02] please stop, please stop the bleeding, right? But in this bountiful liberal democracy that we
[02:03:11] have here in the United States of America, your voices are not heard at all. And as a matter of
[02:03:17] fact, the only opportunity you have to let your voice be heard in the midterms, which is a pressure
[02:03:23] valve, right? So that maybe you can bring about some semblance of accountability if the Democratic
[02:03:28] party becomes the majority party, okay? To offer some kind of check or balance to the
[02:03:34] administration's ridiculous actions is being subverted by Donald Trump right now with these
[02:03:43] redistricting campaigns around the country where he's trying to create more seeds, more red seeds,
[02:03:48] so that they don't lose the majority in the House of Representatives.
[02:03:58] What do you think that is?
[02:04:02] What do you think that's, why do you think that's happening?
[02:04:09] What do you think that means for our future?
[02:04:13] We have this, we have this belief system that like, you know, everything is intact.
[02:04:26] course can't happen here. Only other countries are authoritarian. We're fucking authoritarian.
[02:04:34] And as an American citizen, I want to stop that from happening. So we can sit around and talk
[02:04:41] about how devastating North Korea is, right? Over and over and over again. How unbelievably
[02:04:48] authoritarian North Korea is, how repressive the state is. That's just pure cope. It's a
[02:04:54] distraction is a way for you to feel a little bit better in comparison to fucking North Korea.
[02:04:59] I say we've fallen, we've fallen so hard that we have to compare ourselves to a mode of governance
[02:05:13] that has had to exist under unbelievable fucking sanctions. Like if you're comparing as an American,
[02:05:18] if you're comparing your situation to North Korea, like if you're comparing the state repression that
[02:05:23] that you experience here to the state of repression
[02:05:25] in North Korea and going, well, it's far worse there.
[02:05:29] It's over.
[02:05:30] You're done.
[02:05:31] It's ridiculous.
[02:05:32] This is the United States of America.
[02:05:33] What the fuck do you mean?
[02:05:42] Secretary, what's your message to farmers
[02:05:44] who have been struggling with the rising costs of ethanol,
[02:05:48] gas, and fertilizer?
[02:05:49] The positive news on fertilizer is
[02:05:51] that America has enough.
[02:05:53] Because of President Trump's energy independence agenda,
[02:05:56] what that is now allowing us to do
[02:05:58] is the next step for fertilizer,
[02:06:00] which again, food security is national security,
[02:06:03] but to build our own plants here.
[02:06:06] President Trump will be heading to Beijing early next week
[02:06:09] to meet with China.
[02:06:10] We're gonna manifest fertilizer plants.
[02:06:13] He's President Xi Jinping.
[02:06:14] China has talked to Iran in recent days,
[02:06:17] pushing them to reach a deal and reopen the streets.
[02:06:20] Adriana.
[02:06:21] Aaron, thank you so much for that update.
[02:06:23] The U.S. economy show.
[02:06:24] What's your position with NATO?
[02:06:25] Where are you at with NATO?
[02:06:26] Because we-
[02:06:27] NATO's dead.
[02:06:28] You think NATO's dead?
[02:06:28] NATO's dead.
[02:06:29] We're writing it's obituary.
[02:06:31] Goat talk.
[02:06:32] Robert Pape talking to Patrick Bent David.
[02:06:35] Love to hear it.
[02:06:38] Let's hear what Robert Pape has to say.
[02:06:41] Tell me why.
[02:06:42] Bro, what the hell happened?
[02:06:43] I feel like University of Chicago
[02:06:46] that created the Chicago boys
[02:06:49] was like the heart of American interventionism is now responsible for Merchimer and Robert
[02:06:56] Pape. They're like all talking about how NATO is fucked. NATO is over. What the hell happened
[02:07:01] to the University of Chicago? How did they, how did they fall from grace like this?
[02:07:11] Marx's Coup? Yeah, none of these guys are Marx's. What are you talking about? They're all
[02:07:16] all like saying, Mershamers and Marxists is so funny.
[02:07:23] Once, so first thing people need to know about NATO
[02:07:27] is it's not just a political alliance.
[02:07:30] It is a political alliance where leaders get together
[02:07:33] and we have Brussels and so forth, but it's more.
[02:07:37] We have a thing that your listeners will hear
[02:07:39] called Article 5.
[02:07:41] Okay, we decide we're gonna fight together in a war,
[02:07:45] much more than that. Article 5 says that when you agree with Article 5, there will be an
[02:07:52] quote, integrated command structure. What does integrated command structure mean? An
[02:07:58] American general runs the militaries of all the other NATO countries. Like World War II
[02:08:06] with Eisenhower, five-star general. So just pause for him. See, notice how this changes
[02:08:11] you're thinking. So Article 5 is not just, oh now we're going to fight together and then
[02:08:18] sort out the lines of authority. No. Article 5 is, once we agree, and we've only done this
[02:08:27] with Afghanistan, that's the one time we've done Article 5, it means that an American
[02:08:34] general, now we could second it, we can make a decision just so you know that let another
[02:08:38] general do it. But the idea was American general is going to make the key decisions and sort
[02:08:46] out the roles and missions for everybody. Because if you don't have a sink, a commander
[02:08:52] in chief in a theater, that's what a sink is, commander in chief, everybody's going
[02:08:58] to not know their piece, what they're supposed to do, their geographic location. All of that
[02:09:04] needs to be sorted out or you can't efficiently fight and you'll have a lot of friendly
[02:09:08] We fire casual and all kinds of other problems here.
[02:09:11] So you need an integrated command structure if you're going to have what's called a combined
[02:09:17] set of militaries, where you have militaries from other countries coming together.
[02:09:22] Well that was the beauty of NATO, which is we run the show militarily, not just as we're
[02:09:29] the biggest 800-pound gorilla on the planet.
[02:09:33] Well now, what you've had, not just last year, we had Trump tariffs hurting different countries.
[02:09:40] Something very different happened with Iran.
[02:09:42] What happened with Iran is that when President Trump failed strategically, tactically succeeded
[02:09:49] but failed strategically, what did he say?
[02:09:52] He wanted the European militaries to send the militaries because we weren't going to
[02:09:59] put our ships in harm's way.
[02:10:01] Think about that.
[02:10:03] This is too dangerous for our ships to go into harm's way, and what he said is he wanted
[02:10:09] them to put their ships in harm's way.
[02:10:12] Once you did that, I think there is no way that any European political leader or military
[02:10:20] leader is going to essentially follow orders under Article 5 by General Cain.
[02:10:28] So what Article 5 would mean, again, that is an American commanders who are going to
[02:10:34] be running the show, essentially, here.
[02:10:39] And what happened with this war is we've shown that by the lack of strategy, by the
[02:10:47] disastrous way, this has unfolded.
[02:10:51] And then on top of all that, Patrick, for President Trump to say, we want you to throw
[02:10:57] your bodies in front of our bodies, this is not, this isn't going to work. And I am not
[02:11:04] at all surprised that what you see is Stormer, that's the leader in Britain here, Karni,
[02:11:10] you are seeing so much. You're saying it from your angle because we also led the way. We
[02:11:14] led from front. We gave all this money to protect Ukraine because they treated them
[02:11:18] like a NATO ally. And so Trump probably used it as a way to show the world, look at these
[02:11:24] guys they don't even pay their 2% and I've been able to increase it from 3 in 2014 to
[02:11:29] not 32 but but the message is important he did but the point is all of this stuff we
[02:11:34] do for them and they don't do nothing for us exposed to the world now why do we need
[02:11:38] to be part of it dude come on Patrick bed David okay what is Robert Pate gonna say to that
[02:11:44] that's ridiculous all these stuff that we're doing for nato all the stuff that we're doing
[02:11:50] for NATO and they do nothing for us. Why don't we grok it? Why don't we grok it? Robert
[02:11:56] Pape, you are a professor, but why don't we grok it right now? Okay, I'm a numbers guy.
[02:12:01] We need to see the numbers.
[02:12:11] President David is so bad. No.
[02:12:19] Let me come at this from a little different perspective. So first of all, President Trump,
[02:12:23] start in the first term. That's mostly what that rhetoric was from. He did move them from two
[02:12:30] percent to now, the average is near three, and it's going to soon be three and a half. That part
[02:12:36] is not really what I'm that's true and it was the first three were paying two percent out 32
[02:12:41] exactly that's first term president trump so that all came yeah you know who actually wanted that
[02:12:47] to happen by the way barack obama and that's precisely the reason why joe biden never reversed
[02:12:54] that decision okay the idea that this is not also uniparty is very silly i don't like that
[02:13:01] it's a lie that we tell ourselves and to whoever is listening,
[02:13:09] that this wasn't done just by Donald Trump. When Donald Trump came out and said that,
[02:13:15] everyone in the media was like, oh my god, they're trying to destroy NATO. It's like, well,
[02:13:18] okay, Barack Obama was the one who actually advanced that.
[02:13:24] From the first term of President Trump, but let me tell you a set of data that you don't hear in
[02:13:31] in this regard very much, even by the Democrats either,
[02:13:34] which is what matters for power in the world
[02:13:39] is your economy is so critical
[02:13:42] because it generates the money and the technology
[02:13:46] and the resources for your military
[02:13:49] and your actual military.
[02:13:52] In 1990, when the Cold War ended,
[02:13:56] america's economy was twenty six percent of the world's economy rated down
[02:14:01] twenty six percent of the world's economy
[02:14:04] nineteen nine i'm a numbers guy so i like what you're saying you're giving me
[02:14:09] the numbers
[02:14:10] you are giving me the numbers i'm a numbers that i'm on a rocket
[02:14:13] i'm a rocket robert tape i'm a rocket
[02:14:17] uh... world-wide you get the numbers out
[02:14:20] bank numbers, these are all verified. What is it today?
[02:14:26] 15?
[02:14:27] No, 26, 27 percent, 2025 numbers. Look at our European allies during this time. Let's
[02:14:35] pick Germany, for example. Germany was about 6, 7 percent of the world's economy in 1990.
[02:14:45] What are they today? Three and a half. Three and a half.
[02:14:49] What about Britain? Britain was about four and a half percent of the world's economy
[02:14:54] in 1990. What are they today? Three. France, almost exactly with Britain, four and a half
[02:15:00] to about three.
[02:15:01] 100% correct, by the way. Everything he's saying is facts. All facts, no printer. America's
[02:15:09] positioning has not grown, which is obviously bad for America, but every other ally, every
[02:15:17] every other ally has diminished in the global stage. Europe has diminished the global stage.
[02:15:24] Japan has diminished spectacularly in the global stage. The only other country that
[02:15:27] has grown phenomenally in this process is China. That's it. That's it.
[02:15:35] I could go through Italy. So what does that mean, Patrick? If you take power, I'm really
[02:15:40] curious what you think, because I'm wondering what you're-
[02:15:42] I'm trying to show you the power right here.
[02:15:45] In 1990, compared to our European allies here,
[02:15:51] okay, we were certainly big,
[02:15:53] but notice they weren't trivial,
[02:15:55] certainly as a group.
[02:15:57] But as we stayed at 26, they've fallen by a third.
[02:16:02] They've fallen by a third, Patrick.
[02:16:06] So the way I put it to my classes sometimes,
[02:16:09] I lay this out for them, and I say,
[02:16:11] Yeah, we say we're uncle sucker, but who's the sucker here? Who's the real sucker here?
[02:16:19] See, what, what, I understand President Trump saying. Yeah, Patrick, but David is listening to Robert
[02:16:25] Pate described that America has basically sucked up all of the resources from its allies around the
[02:16:33] globe as it's basically been able to maintain its position.
[02:16:41] And Patrick Mayday will turn around and tomorrow still continue the narrative like, oh, we
[02:16:46] are not getting anything from the partners.
[02:16:49] He just looks at this statistic about who's paying for defense.
[02:16:53] And he's right on the numbers.
[02:16:55] This is not a mistake of numbers.
[02:16:57] It's not that President Trump's getting his numbers wrong, but there's a businessman.
[02:17:02] You know.
[02:17:03] If you're up against companies here, if you're one of the big mega companies here, and you're
[02:17:08] 26% of the market, and your competitor is here at like 7%, 8% of the market, and you
[02:17:15] stay at 26 and they go to 4, who's got the power here?
[02:17:19] Who's gaining power here?
[02:17:21] We're gaining power.
[02:17:23] I'm very concerned that what's going to happen in the next 5, 10 years is we'll go from 26
[02:17:30] 22 to 23% something like that. Other countries and I'm mostly worried about China are just
[02:17:37] going to eat our lunch and then maybe even the Europeans will start to get their act
[02:17:41] together and start to become economically stronger. Now I'm not saying they will for
[02:17:46] sure but we have not had our lunch eaten from us here since the end of the Cold War. This
[02:17:52] is over 30 years. So this isn't just in a yearly thing. So I really believe that we
[02:17:58] We are not using, I keep trying to explain, we're focusing on issues of tactics, we're
[02:18:05] not focusing on the bigger picture numbers here, the bigger picture outcomes that matter
[02:18:10] for America's, another point I want to make, what does Bob believe?
[02:18:16] I want us to be 26%, I want us to be 30%.
[02:18:20] I don't want us going down.
[02:18:22] So when we had our big conversation.
[02:18:24] Yeah, they said this guy's a Marxist.
[02:18:26] China. I'm looking at this number. We're pulling ourselves and hurting ourselves with trade,
[02:18:36] and I'm not coming at this as some liberal normative, let's make other people richer or
[02:18:41] so. No, that's not it at all. I'm looking at this from essentially a primacy lens.
[02:18:46] I'm looking at this, how does America remain the number one most powerful, wealthiest country in
[02:18:54] the world for the next 20 years. And I think we need to understand that we have actually
[02:19:01] had quite a set of advantages versus Western Europe and also Japan. You know what, Japan
[02:19:07] was in 1990? 10%. Japan was 10% in 1990. You look at Japan today, they're 4%.
[02:19:16] Wow.
[02:19:17] So just think about that for a moment.
[02:19:19] What is China?
[02:19:20] Wow.
[02:19:21] from 1990, two to 17, two to 17.
[02:19:26] That's the one that matters to me.
[02:19:27] Well, no, yes, but the whole thing needs to matter to you
[02:19:30] is what I'm telling you, because you want us to be
[02:19:34] not just bigger, better than China,
[02:19:37] you want us to be the biggest,
[02:19:39] baddest, richest here, 26%.
[02:19:42] That's what's made America the place to come
[02:19:45] to be the golden goose,
[02:19:46] the place to come for entrepreneurs here.
[02:19:49] If we ain't nobody waking up in the morning going to China ain't nobody waking up
[02:19:54] I'm not worrying about China. I'm worrying about that over time we are gonna lose this and I think what we need to do is
[02:20:01] Understand that we've actually made out quite well versus the Western Europe. So you so you and also Japan
[02:20:08] Yeah, they're not eating our one. Okay. So what do you think about the chances of us leaving NATO under Trump?
[02:20:14] Oh, he just announced well, so just in the last 72 hours
[02:20:18] So I've been saying NATO has been dead for about three weeks now.
[02:20:22] So I've been on a lot of these podcasts and so forth.
[02:20:25] And other people have asked me about this, too.
[02:20:27] So I've said, NATO's dead.
[02:20:28] We're writing it's obituary.
[02:20:29] That line has been out there for three weeks.
[02:20:31] Well, what just happened here this week on Monday
[02:20:35] is Mayor, the leader of Germany, has come out vigorously.
[02:20:42] And he's slapping Trump right in the face,
[02:20:46] saying that iran is humiliated
[02:20:49] uh... america
[02:20:51] uh... and then on top of that if you look at the papers and i i looked at the
[02:20:55] actual documents that come out of the government's not just simply the
[02:20:59] you know what's out on thirty-second ticktocks
[02:21:01] uh... here they've come out the new strategy
[02:21:04] at rick and their new strategy from right here is to talk about this is the
[02:21:07] one that they let them travel to islamabad and then leave again without
[02:21:11] any result
[02:21:14] a whole nation is being humiliated by the iranian leadership
[02:21:17] especially by the we did the uh... we did the a i
[02:21:20] we did the a i translation
[02:21:23] we cracked it
[02:21:24] we cracked it
[02:21:29] this is mirrors
[02:21:31] a very good guy i like him
[02:21:33] so-called revolutionary guards
[02:21:36] and in that respect
[02:21:38] mister clip
[02:21:40] americans may not want to hear only twenty six gay and isn't echoed
[02:21:43] Chamber that's the same bud yo dog this chat has all the same opinion is shit is an echo chamber 42 month subscriber
[02:21:51] Brother you're the one who's echoing back
[02:21:55] What happened you want to
[02:21:58] You want
[02:22:00] It's Saturday, I'm sorry. I'm baiting happy Saturday. Yeah, did you what happened? You want to you want to attention?
[02:22:07] Is that what it is? I
[02:22:09] I
[02:22:12] Swear to God people get fucking bored and they're like
[02:22:17] People get so bored and then just like I really want us on the notice me, please
[02:22:23] Well, if you want to notice me say something like oh, I love your Patrick pet David impersonation
[02:22:28] You know what I mean like or give me something good
[02:22:32] Give me something good to read. What is this cheap? What is this cheap bait?
[02:22:39] Is the only way to get noticed? No. That's not the only way to get noticed.
[02:22:44] I'm an American and that's...
[02:22:47] He's needy, not a liar. That's crazy.
[02:22:50] That hurts me to hear that, but we need to understand that's not unique.
[02:22:56] Macron thinks that. Stammer thinks that. That's the leader of France and Britain.
[02:23:01] Kearney thinks that. That's the leader of Canada.
[02:23:04] All of them are globalists.
[02:23:06] All undoubtedly she thinks that you look at the smiles on Putin's face.
[02:23:11] So Putin just met with, um,
[02:23:12] Are you surprised they're saying that because I'm not.
[02:23:15] No, I'm, I'm telling you that they, what, what has the world has learned.
[02:23:20] I've never seen two guys talk to intellectual Titans talk over one another this hard.
[02:23:27] Okay.
[02:23:28] They're just talking past one another.
[02:23:30] Robert Papus is like describing exactly what's going on.
[02:23:33] Patrick B. David is just trying to slam his perspective into the conversation. They're
[02:23:37] all globalist. Dude, we are America. We are the globalists. Okay. We are the globe. What
[02:23:44] the fuck are you talking about? What is this globalism? It's just like a idiotic distinction
[02:23:50] that the American right wing has, has slammed on here for some fucking weird reason. We
[02:23:55] have 800 military bases around the world. What the fuck do you mean? They are the globalist,
[02:24:00] We're not the globalists.
[02:24:05] What the fuck?
[02:24:08] Which they had not known since Vietnam is an American can be beat.
[02:24:13] That's what I'm telling you.
[02:24:16] Now, when we had the Vietnam War, this was a material disaster,
[02:24:21] but it was a disaster for our power beyond simply the material
[02:24:25] consequences.
[02:24:26] You know, Mr. Patrick impersonation.
[02:24:27] Is there any way to Ruan?
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[02:26:11] What happened in Vietnam?
[02:26:13] Because that small country beat us.
[02:26:16] In fact, what started me on my quest to understand air power as a dissertation topic in the 1980s,
[02:26:23] I wanted to know how we could lose to such a small country.
[02:26:26] i was going to go into the foreign service i was going to become a
[02:26:29] in the rain administration i was going to go get a phd and you know i was i
[02:26:32] told you a liberal republican
[02:26:34] uh... reagan's basically a liberal republican he might not would admit it
[02:26:37] but that but he is
[02:26:38] uh... and i was going to go in and and try to spread democracy here uh... but i
[02:26:42] wanted to know if i'm gonna do this
[02:26:44] how did we lose
[02:26:46] because after all i don't want to lose
[02:26:49] uh... here that's not the point
[02:26:51] so uh... but what you saw then is the military
[02:26:54] uh... not just the rain administration we up ended ourselves in the middle of
[02:26:59] that school that i uh... taught at the airport it was a brand new school
[02:27:04] started in nineteen ninety one
[02:27:06] by larry well chief of staff of the air force and he told me
[02:27:09] another four-star general directly told me
[02:27:12] because they wanted to fix the problem they saw in vietnam is
[02:27:17] airmen did not know air strategy
[02:27:20] and i was being
[02:27:21] because my book my work
[02:27:24] The only you download mint distro you really need to move from capital's
[02:27:28] operation systems feeding imperialism I'm poor I haven't even heated my pool
[02:27:33] this summer. They want some civilians but they couldn't find any study their
[02:27:38] strategy and and I'm the one who actually came closest to thinking about
[02:27:42] strategy the way it should be understood which is not how to put a bomb on a
[02:27:46] target but what happens when bombs hit targets to the politics of the situation
[02:27:51] And so that went that we were when walk step here at that point in time
[02:27:56] What you what you are seeing here though is is since Vietnam we have not we had the Desert Storm 1991
[02:28:04] Yes, we've had other problems, but we haven't had a disaster
[02:28:09] You really just right with talking about Vietnam veterans my uncle died fighting the American invaders. How dare you I?
[02:28:16] Do respect the veterans on both sides like this since Vietnam
[02:28:21] and we have it in in vietnam america didn't do things that are wrecking the
[02:28:25] world's economy so this could be even worse than vietnam on that dimension
[02:28:30] what you're seeing with these world leaders is
[02:28:32] they have learned america can be beats
[02:28:36] but why is the ua e pulling out of uh... of opa they don't want to be tethered
[02:28:40] to saudi arabia saudi arabia even though it's a collective does
[02:28:44] is the biggest one in opa and they call most of the shots in opa and they as we
[02:28:49] We know MBS was on the phone right next to Netanyahu, encouraging Trump to do the regime
[02:28:55] change bombing.
[02:28:56] So if that's true, then you know that this Iranian regime, as it gets more powerful, they're
[02:29:01] coming at, they want to topple now the Saudi regime.
[02:29:06] Why are you in the UAE, wanting to hit your leg into that?
[02:29:10] It's not that you want to have any love for Iran, but the last thing you want to do is
[02:29:13] get sunk by these groups over here.
[02:29:16] You've seen us when they left OPEC.
[02:29:18] i don't know for sure i have no deep knowledge but i i i said on my
[02:29:22] sub-stack that as uh... this was before they left out back i said that what
[02:29:26] you're going to see is as a ron emerges
[02:29:29] as a far more powerful global player
[02:29:32] uh... here is just beginning
[02:29:34] uh... in the golf what you're going to see is fragmentation
[02:29:38] that you had uh... uh... unity you had this with the abraham accords uh... you
[02:29:43] had trump and uh... this was uh... jerry kushner's idea really from going
[02:29:47] back to the first Trump administration, where you're going to try to counterbalance Iran.
[02:29:51] Now, he didn't use that term, but that's basically what's happening here, what was happening.
[02:29:55] And so you're going to build a coalition where it's Israel, it's the UAE, it's Saudi Arabia.
[02:30:02] If you can bring in the other GCC countries, that's great.
[02:30:04] And that's what Trump's last May, you saw.
[02:30:07] He did a wide swing through the GCC countries.
[02:30:10] And what they're basically doing, among other things, is they're building a counter-balancing
[02:30:15] coalition against Iran.
[02:30:19] But what, as Iran grows, and especially as everybody sees what he is now articulating,
[02:30:25] Meritz is articulating, is that we can be beat.
[02:30:29] This is not going to hold together.
[02:30:31] You are not going to be able to keep this counterbalancing coalition together.
[02:30:36] And it's not because of Trump's unique.
[02:30:39] It's because this is the pattern of history.
[02:30:41] This is going to fragment.
[02:30:42] And then I explained they would have different countries fragmenting in different ways.
[02:30:46] It wasn't going to be a Pax Islamic is happening.
[02:30:49] Robert Pipp confirmed it.
[02:30:51] Oh, Professor John McGillus and everybody moved to Iran.
[02:30:56] It's fragmentation or atomization.
[02:30:59] And that's what's happening here.
[02:31:01] Iraq was actually the beginning.
[02:31:03] Also, it's awfully impressive how you barely touch Patrick Bate, David's accent.
[02:31:06] Yet when you do, you play like you've been secretly studying for years.
[02:31:09] There's no buildup, no struggle.
[02:31:11] a subtle, efficient skill that even feels misplaced.
[02:31:15] Despite being extremely invested in value-tainment, you never stoop too low, but somehow makes
[02:31:19] it more impressive and slightly confusing to witness.
[02:31:21] You're not just good at value-tainment.
[02:31:23] You're gifted.
[02:31:24] God, I fucking hate chat-GPT so much.
[02:31:29] It's just...
[02:31:30] Oh, I hate it.
[02:31:31] I hate the way it speaks.
[02:31:34] I am becoming a full-blown Luddite, I think.
[02:31:38] I was thinking about this the other night.
[02:31:40] And I was like, am I, like, I feel like this is a new piece of technology that is like being utilized by so many people.
[02:31:47] And I probably have to understand it and I probably have to use it.
[02:31:51] And, and basically the only time I touch any kind of like, uh, LLM, uh, ma, uh, large language model, any kind of LLM whatsoever,
[02:32:00] any kind of AI whatsoever is like the top of the Google searches, right?
[02:32:04] Like that's it.
[02:32:05] And I don't know, I find it so gross, but I feel like I need to learn it, you know?
[02:32:22] Don't lie the AI glaze made you wet.
[02:32:26] Coming.
[02:32:27] Hello, hello, hello, hello, you know why I'm always bright and wishy tail in the morning.
[02:32:35] It's real. That's the secret. What is this game, bro? I don't understand. Like why are this Nintendo?
[02:32:42] This is the Nintendo game, right? Is it Tomagachi or whatever? Tomodori, whatever it's called.
[02:32:48] And not what it is.
[02:32:53] Why do they have so many like insane scenarios? I don't even understand. It's animal crossing with
[02:32:59] me's yeah but like
[02:33:14] it seems but Nintendo okay but like why is it why is it that they're they're
[02:33:17] saying such cool things about Israel
[02:33:22] meaning of this as I point out in the sub stack they started to be far more
[02:33:27] critical of Americans. And what did Iran do? They started to let some Iraqi oil go through.
[02:33:32] So the more these countries are moving in, even Macron was making statements here that
[02:33:40] Iran found positive and they let a French oil tanker through. And that's one of the reasons
[02:33:46] why Trump decided to do the U.S., the blockade, because he doesn't want Iran feeling its oats
[02:33:52] and using its power in this way. But what you're seeing is, I believe, the beginning
[02:33:58] stages of what I was explaining would happen is fragmentation of the Gulf. It's not greater
[02:34:04] unity in the Gulf, and it's because once that, once everybody knows America can be
[02:34:10] beat, there's a power vacuum now in the Gulf. It's literally a power vacuum, and that power,
[02:34:16] and the states are going to respond on their own, on their own, for their own survival,
[02:34:22] They may make mistakes, they may do something good for their survival, but they're not going
[02:34:26] to simply listen to President Trump, Jared Kushner, and just simply say, oh, sure, we're
[02:34:33] just going to keep doing everything and following your lead.
[02:34:37] And with OPEC now, this is a real sign of disunity.
[02:34:42] And you see this in NATO here, and you saw with Japan, President Brown, a browbeat,
[02:34:50] leader of of japan and she would not budge
[02:34:54] well they're only four percent of the world's gdp now they're not ten percent
[02:34:57] like they were
[02:34:58] and why exactly are they thrown their bodies
[02:35:03] what it is a and their oil uh... where where is this idea that somehow we're
[02:35:07] gonna bet the japan is an ireland study this in world war two
[02:35:11] they are an ireland state they depend so much on that incoming oil
[02:35:17] uh... that's really one of things that crush it
[02:35:21] i mean he literally did his his whole
[02:35:24] his his main thesis is like most famous workers about air wars
[02:35:28] so he i believe it when he says that
[02:35:31] uh... except it's really funny where he goes by study japan a lot
[02:35:35] and they really love oil is such a funny way
[02:35:39] to talk about this issue because it's like
[02:35:42] i think you learn that in like third grade where it's like yeah we we uh...
[02:35:45] put an oil blockade on japan and they got so pissed off that they did fucking pearl harbour
[02:35:53] like delivering the most basic fact about japan that like you know most of the illiterate americans know
[02:36:03] while you are uh genuinely one of the most studied guys on the the pacific theater specifically
[02:36:11] because like his entire work revolves around air wars is hilarious.
[02:36:16] To Japan in World War II is we had a naval blockade that really worked to crush their
[02:36:21] military.
[02:36:22] They're civilian, they didn't crush their morale, but it did work weak in their military.
[02:36:27] Well this is still true today with Japan.
[02:36:30] When we set out to create Japan, we learned about the oil, and the oil, very important.
[02:36:38] very important part of Japanese economy.
[02:36:43] Bro, most Americans don't know that the blockade led to Pearl Harbor.
[02:36:46] Wait, what?
[02:36:50] No, you're just bad.
[02:36:52] Sometimes I'm like, is American education that bad,
[02:36:55] or do I just have bad students in my chat
[02:36:57] who did not hear when their teachers were educating them?
[02:37:01] Because that seems unbelievable.
[02:37:05] A lot of people don't know that, dude.
[02:37:07] the fuck is going on? Okay, you're just bad students. There's no shot.
[02:37:17] Okay, poll time. I'm running a poll. I'm running a poll. Okay.
[02:37:27] Japan oil blockade. Didn't know, did know.
[02:37:34] No.
[02:37:35] Oh wait, hold on.
[02:37:39] Didn't learn in school, did learn in school.
[02:37:46] Okay.
[02:37:47] Two minutes duration.
[02:37:48] We're doing a poll.
[02:37:49] We have to fucking see.
[02:37:51] I have to see.
[02:37:52] Go vote in the poll.
[02:37:54] They teach for a harbor, like it was an unprovoked attack in America, bro.
[02:37:59] Wait, what?
[02:38:02] Oh my god 88% by the way, I'm talking about being illiterate, but I wrote didn't
[02:38:23] Wait till you find out whether or not, wait till you find out that there is some suspicious
[02:38:36] that FDR might have known.
[02:38:39] But he needed something to push Americans, push the American public into action, into
[02:38:47] engaging militarily.
[02:38:52] was not enough appetite to wage war against the Axis forces. FDR obviously wanted to do it.
[02:39:04] Here, this is the only way that you can actually teach people. You got to do a conspiracy style.
[02:39:10] Yeah, America was frustrated with the Japanese colonialism taking place in the Pacific Theater.
[02:39:18] specifically some of our allies or previous colonial operations were under threat.
[02:39:25] So we implemented an oil blockade frustrating the Japanese into taking action against Pearl
[02:39:34] Harbor in Hawaii.
[02:39:38] Now moving massive naval fleets at the time without the Americans finding out about it
[02:39:47] was obviously quite the difficult endeavor, which is precisely the reason why there's
[02:39:51] suspicion that the Americans did know.
[02:39:55] But maybe some thought the Japanese would not be crazy enough to attack our military
[02:40:00] fortress in Pearl Harbor directly or perhaps they thought perhaps they knew that an attack
[02:40:10] was imminent and yet they let it happen because FDR knew that this would be the final piece
[02:40:16] of the puzzle to get the United States of America to directly engage with the fascist
[02:40:22] scourge growing around the world.
[02:40:26] Is that good?
[02:40:36] 88% said they didn't learn about this in school. That is unbelievable.
[02:40:54] Do you mean America deserved Pearl Harbor? No, I'm not. I'm not even saying that.
[02:40:59] I think it was objectively good that America involved itself militarily.
[02:41:06] In the Allied side against Nazi Germany and also Japan too, that's not a bad thing. That's a good thing
[02:41:17] But it is kind of interesting 88% did not know that America implemented an oil blockade on Japan
[02:41:31] What the fuck
[02:41:36] Here's the textbook most of us saw, Japan launches attack, not in the curriculum is
[02:41:45] on, I'm a, I'm a Cali so, uh, so sigh high school teacher, not in the textbooks, nor
[02:41:51] in the standards.
[02:41:56] World War Two, how can war effects civilians making connections?
[02:42:00] What the fuck?
[02:42:01] how do you zoom in on this? not fucking zooming in.
[02:42:13] foldable study organizer explaining created two tab book.
[02:42:18] Nazi death camps in full operation.
[02:42:23] 44 Allies under Eisenhower launched D-Day invasion.
[02:42:27] United States drops atomic bombs on Japan, Germany, and Japan surrender in 1945.
[02:42:34] Okay, the Japanese pat the war.
[02:42:41] The need for natural resources fueled the Japanese plan to seize other countries.
[02:42:46] Okay?
[02:42:49] The Nazi Soviet non-aggression pact, getting like its own peace. Meanwhile, appeasement,
[02:42:57] appeasement just gets a brief mention is really funny. This is like a whole, I like that they
[02:43:03] did a whole chapter on it. Okay. Japanese expansion, Japan not planning to declare war on China.
[02:43:08] However, the 1937 incident eventually turned to a major conflict. The Japanese seized Chinese
[02:43:13] capital of Nanjing in December.
[02:43:15] Chiang Kai-shek refuses to render and moved his government upriver. First to Hong Kong,
[02:43:19] then to Chongqing. As the Japanese put forward, Chinese civilians experience extreme brutality,
[02:43:24] aerial bombing. Although they were defeated, the Chinese continued to resist the Japanese
[02:43:28] for the entire course of the war. A move southward, however, would risk the war with the European
[02:43:33] colonial powers in the United States. Japan's attack on China in the summer of 1937 had already
[02:43:38] aroused strong criticism, especially in the US. Nevertheless, in the summer of 1940, Japan demanded
[02:43:42] the right to exploit economic resources in French Indochina, the United States objected.
[02:43:46] It warned Japan that it would apply economic sanctions restrictions intended to enforce
[02:43:50] international law, unless Japan withdrew from the area and returned to its borders in 1931.
[02:43:55] Japan badly needed the oil and scrap iron. It was getting from the United States. Should
[02:44:00] these reserves be cut off? Japan would have. Yeah, see, it does bring it up. Japan would
[02:44:04] have to find them elsewhere. Japan viewed the possibility sanctions of threat and long
[02:44:07] term objectives. Japan was now caught in a dilemma to guarantee access to raw materials
[02:44:11] in Southeast Asia, Japan had the risk of losing raw materials from the United States.
[02:44:14] After much debate, Japan decided to launch a surprise attack on the European colonies,
[02:44:19] the US and European colonies in Southeast Asia.
[02:44:28] So you guys are just bad students, including that one teacher.
[02:44:37] I was homeschooled though.
[02:44:54] It barely, I mean, sure, it doesn't really bring it up to be fair.
[02:45:07] You asked if we didn't learn it, not if we paid attention. No, that was the first
[02:45:12] That was the first question that I had was
[02:45:15] Whether or not you guys are bad students or if they don't bring it up at all
[02:45:25] So like
[02:45:26] What do you guys think whenever?
[02:45:28] Sometimes I make jokes and I don't realize that many of you don't even know what the joke is
[02:45:33] You just laugh along without understanding. Like I have made these jokes in the past,
[02:45:38] especially in the last, you know, 71 days, 72 days where I'll be like, you know, you
[02:45:43] never want to stop Japan from getting oil. They get really mad when they don't get oil.
[02:45:47] What do you think the joke is? The joke is literally about Pearl Harbor. That was the
[02:45:52] joke. Like that's, like this whole time you guys have just been laughing and you didn't
[02:46:01] even know why you were laughing
[02:46:07] what the fuck
[02:46:11] i mean it's fine now you know
[02:46:18] I thought it was a cooking thing wait what I wonder how much of this stuff that I say
[02:46:40] on here is like misconstrued by people who just simply don't have fucking access to information
[02:46:48] or have access to the information, but have never actually sought it out.
[02:47:05] Interesting.
[02:47:09] I'm a history above, and 33 years old at the time in high school, they really glossed over the
[02:47:12] sanctions or anything that America did. They really just focused on Pearl Harbor and the
[02:47:16] the aftermath I was really interested in personally I had to go check out my own
[02:47:19] books in the library and actually learn about American oil sanctions. That's
[02:47:23] interesting.
[02:47:26] Yeah, well, maybe Robert A. Pape, uh, should, I mean, they do mention it. They say it's
[02:47:49] sanctions but it's not just sanctions they did an embargo the Japanese was one
[02:47:59] of the most devastating attacks on American soil but just a few decades
[02:48:04] earlier Japan and the United States were allies in World War one so how did
[02:48:09] things get so bad between them it all comes down to oil to explain we need to
[02:48:15] go all the way back to the 19th century. Once an isolated nation, Japan underwent a makeover
[02:48:21] of sorts to compete with the West. Known as the Meiji Restoration, it embraced industrialization,
[02:48:27] built up its military, and restored Japan's emperor as the powerful head of state. Aided
[02:48:32] by two successful wars, Japan aggressively expanded its empire. The Japanese were becoming
[02:48:38] an imperial superpower. Until the Great Depression hit. You see, Japan is an island nation
[02:48:45] with few natural resources, so it depends on international trade to keep its economy afloat.
[02:48:51] The economic crisis put a stop to all that.
[02:48:54] Japan was in a bind, so its military leaders, who called the shots at this point, decided
[02:48:59] the best defense against financial ruin would be a good offense.
[02:49:04] They would invade nearby China, particularly Manchuria, for its plentiful resources like
[02:49:09] iron, soybeans, and land.
[02:49:12] Lots and lots of unsettled land.
[02:49:14] So what does this all have to do with the United States?
[02:49:17] Well, the US was a long-standing Chinese ally, and it watched uneasily from the sidelines
[02:49:23] as the two nations clashed in the 1930s.
[02:49:26] But America wanted nothing to do with another war, so it just denounced Japan's aggression.
[02:49:32] Tensions rose in 1937 when Japan invaded the Chinese city of Nanjing.
[02:49:37] In doing so, they attacked an American gunboat, killing three and wounding dozens.
[02:49:43] Disturbing images coming out of war-torn China further swayed American opinion against Japan
[02:49:48] In response America attacked Japan's resources
[02:49:52] They imposed economic sanctions of aircraft scrap metal and other items crucial to Japan's military
[02:49:59] The US hoped that just so you know
[02:50:02] The tide has shifted now as far as manufacturing goes and now China can do that to America if it chooses to do so just
[02:50:11] some to consider.
[02:50:13] Sanctions would stop Japanese expansion, but Japan doubled down, invading French into China in 1940,
[02:50:19] and then teaming up with Germany and Italy. Why this?
[02:50:22] Yeah, I learned in middle school that Chung Ha-Shek was a good guy by the way,
[02:50:26] and that was the verbatim phrase used by my teacher, good guy.
[02:50:30] I mean, Chung Ha-Shek during World War II was not a bad guy.
[02:50:36] I mean, he wasn't a great guy, but he definitely was not the worst guy in the equation either.
[02:50:43] I mean, he was, this was a nationalist bourgeois force at the end of the day, but they were,
[02:50:51] they were a force within China that was seeking out emancipation. As a matter of fact,
[02:51:00] Like famously, the USSR also wanted, the Soviets wanted the CCP, the Communist CPC, the Communist
[02:51:16] Party of China to align, because at the time they had no manpower in the early formation,
[02:51:22] and they wanted them to align with the KMT nationalist forces, because the KMT nationalist
[02:51:29] forces were also seen as an emancipatory force or even a revolutionary force, potentially.
[02:51:37] So, yeah.
[02:51:42] The Communist Party of China grew from the ranks of the KMT. The KMT was a far more powerful
[02:51:48] force in Chinese politics at the time. And part of the reason was, of course, because
[02:51:54] They had the backing of the elites.
[02:51:57] In some respects, the elites that also did not
[02:51:59] want to live in a country that was war-torn,
[02:52:02] led in parts by warlords and in other parts
[02:52:04] by concessions and European powers.
[02:52:11] So initially, initially they weren't
[02:52:23] the the worst guys technically i guess in comparison to who else was uh running the show
[02:52:36] kmt was failing the people hence they joined cpc buddy it was not the it was the cpc that joined
[02:52:44] the KMT. KMT's forces were far, far larger than the CPC.
[02:52:58] The Soviets absolutely wanted to get the CPC to shut the fuck up about the KMT's counter-revolutionary
[02:53:08] behavior early on. There are numerous instances where like they were just like dude just just
[02:53:13] chill the fuck out. Oh, oh, you're talking about the civil war. Okay, that's different. Yeah,
[02:53:24] no, I thought you were we're talking about like the the the Sinnoh Japanese the war
[02:53:38] Kim Jong-un under Sun-Yat Sen was actually okay and compromised many points to the Communist
[02:53:45] wing.
[02:53:46] Yes.
[02:53:47] Two countries, because like Japan, they were controlled by militaristic governments, obsessed
[02:53:54] with conquest and driven by a deep sense of nationalism.
[02:53:58] The final straw came in July of 1941, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt announced
[02:54:03] a trade embargo on-
[02:54:05] Yeah, by the way, the textbook also literally said something.
[02:54:07] right about that. Textbook says Germany and Japan surrendered after the atomic bombs with
[02:54:11] Germany had lost, Berlin had fell before the atomic bombs. So there's also that part of
[02:54:15] it as well.
[02:54:18] That's, that, that is another funny part about that textbook that was just like objectively
[02:54:25] wrong. They, they oversimplified it perhaps a little too much. Like, oh, we, we tie this
[02:54:32] up with a neat little bow. You know, we just dropped the two atomic bombs and everyone
[02:54:36] like oh my god we're surrendering you're so powerful no that's not what happened at all but it's fine
[02:54:44] i guess oil an oil shortage was an absolute disaster for japan who relied on imports for
[02:54:51] 90 of its supply not only would this destroy the japanese economy but it would put its
[02:54:57] military at a literal standstill which meant no more expansion japan resented the u.s for
[02:55:04] meddling in its quest to dominate Asia. The only solution left for the Japanese was Total War.
[02:55:10] Crush the US fleet in the Pacific and then occupy Southeast Asia and claim its resources.
[02:55:17] And so on December 7, 1941, Japan launched its surprise attack at Pearl Harbor.
[02:55:27] At first, it seemed like a win for the Japanese, destroying or damaging 21 US ships and more
[02:55:32] than 300 aircraft and killing around 2,400 soldiers, sailors, airmen, and this kind of
[02:55:39] makes Japan look like they were back in the corner. I had no option. I mean, they did
[02:55:42] have an option, which was not be Nazi Germany in fucking in China and in Korea. And no,
[02:55:51] no, definitely they were not backed into a corner. They were not the good guys in any
[02:55:56] way, shape or form. Okay. I mean, they did the Holocaust, the China.
[02:56:01] If you noticed, at first, until they started threatening Western territories, Western colonial
[02:56:10] conquest, until they started threatening Western, Western territories that were also taking
[02:56:19] over through colonial conquest, America and the Western world was like, oh, stop it.
[02:56:24] We really don't like what you're doing to China, but like, ah, who cares?
[02:56:28] Okay.
[02:56:30] It was until, it was only after they started frustrating western territories that they
[02:56:39] decide to do something about it.
[02:56:52] The Japanese were actually so bad in China that envoys from the Nazi government in Nanjing
[02:56:55] actually took in Chinese refugees to keep them away from the Japanese.
[02:56:58] They were horribly monstrous.
[02:57:05] Yeah, Japanese were specifically the cause of 14-20 million Chinese casualties in World
[02:57:13] War II.
[02:57:15] That's not including the other countries they conquered too by the way.
[02:57:18] Yeah, the Japanese were really, really fucking ruthless.
[02:57:23] civilians. But the success was short-lived. The United States declared war on Japan on
[02:57:30] December 8, 1941. Not long after, the Japanese would realize the mistake it made at Pearl
[02:57:36] Harbor. Their bombers had failed to deliver a mortal blow to the Pacific Fleet, missing
[02:57:41] oil tanks, ammunition sites, repair facilities, and aircraft carriers. Just six months later,
[02:57:48] remnants of the U.S. fleet.
[02:57:50] No, the whole like Kauai shit is, that's what happens when you become a servile to
[02:57:57] American interests.
[02:57:58] Okay, post-World War II, if you were like, oh, okay, we're now doing whatever you want
[02:58:03] us to do, sir, America just let you do any kind of whitewashing you want to.
[02:58:09] This is actually important to understand the Chinese perspective on a little bit, because
[02:58:13] like, imagine being fucking China, okay?
[02:58:18] of humiliation. Japan comes and does the Holocaust to you. Okay. And then America drops atom bombs
[02:58:26] on Japan. You're like, Oh hell yeah, that's awesome. Right. That was their perspective at the time.
[02:58:31] And I think still to this day, that's kind of their perspective. The Chinese perspective is like,
[02:58:35] hell yeah, atom bombs, they should have done worse. Right. I can't fault them for having that
[02:58:41] framework, regardless of my own personal opinion on the, the utilization of atom bombs. But like,
[02:58:46] Like, you come into that situation, you're able to develop your country under unbearable
[02:58:55] conditions, civil war, okay?
[02:58:57] You gain autonomy, you gain sovereignty in the aftermath of that.
[02:59:01] And then there is a tremendous growing pains in the process, right?
[02:59:06] Cultural revolution is devastating in many respects, right?
[02:59:12] collectivization efforts obviously end up with the last time there's tremendous amounts of famine
[02:59:20] in the country. It's the last time, but it's still, you know, it's still horrifying when
[02:59:30] you're experiencing this process, right, when you're going through it.
[02:59:36] And you have these like unacknowledged atrocities. Many Americans don't even know that the
[02:59:41] the Chinese were involved in World War II or even far beyond far before World War II
[02:59:46] or were devastated by Japanese imperialism.
[02:59:50] And then this country that this island nation that did this to you, okay, becomes an economic
[02:59:56] powerhouse, has America write its constitution becomes an economic powerhouse.
[03:00:02] America then takes some of the war criminal research and then uses it in Korea and that
[03:00:11] conflict is inevitably going to spill over into your country while you're still licking
[03:00:17] your wounds from World War II, while you're going through your own version, your own civil
[03:00:23] war, okay, against these nationalist forces. And then you have to muster up enough of your
[03:00:35] aesthetic and unbelievably poor forces to go and defend Korea, and you do actually end
[03:00:44] up achieving a bunch of military successes in that endeavor.
[03:00:54] You can't even fully defeat the KMT because they steal all the gold and they move to Taiwan,
[03:01:00] the island of Firmosa, okay?
[03:01:05] And before you can, before you can go and take over Taiwan, you have to now deal with
[03:01:11] the, with the, uh, Korean flank and yes, mouse son died in, uh, in Korea,
[03:01:19] defending Korea.
[03:01:24] Anyway, all that shit happens.
[03:01:26] And the Western world, after you have, uh, after you've gone through these, uh,
[03:01:31] tremendous hardships, tremendous pain, okay?
[03:01:35] For decades and decades, you just dial in and you're like, Nope, we're just
[03:01:40] to focus on development, we're going to focus on building our country, okay? And there are still,
[03:01:46] there are still instances where, regardless of your allegiance with America at times,
[03:01:51] and regardless of playing a role in American imperialism in the region, which they did, okay?
[03:02:00] They were very calculated, very strategic, and America thought that they could exploit the
[03:02:06] the Sino-Soviet split, which China absolutely leaned into as well, right? You do all the
[03:02:16] stuff. You do all the stuff. The rest of the world doesn't know any of the hardships. They
[03:02:24] only talk about how you killed hundreds of millions of people, now killed hundreds of
[03:02:29] millions of fucking people. This guy who's like the founding father of your country,
[03:02:34] the modern China, the People's Republic of China, that you have tremendous respect for.
[03:02:39] Okay. And, and everyone's like, oh, dude, you're basically like Adolf Hitler. Your country was
[03:02:46] founded basically by Adolf Hitler. They killed so many of your own people directly at gunpoint.
[03:02:50] Like what the fuck? Meanwhile, the real country that did the Holocaust to you that was the Adolf
[03:02:57] Hitler to you is Japan. And they're the most Kawaii country on the planet. Everyone's like,
[03:03:01] oh, I love Japan. I love Japan. Japan is awesome. They've never done anything wrong.
[03:03:07] Yeah, it would probably piss me off too, you know. It'd probably be very, very frustrating
[03:03:14] to see the Western world look at this country and look at this country that has done unbelievable
[03:03:20] amounts of pain that you have a direct connection to that you're, you know, you experienced only a
[03:03:26] only a couple generations ago, only one to two generations ago, and you've gone through
[03:03:33] this like tremendous fucking hardship.
[03:03:37] And the Western world that refused to acknowledge any of that shit is still saying, you're the
[03:03:42] bad guys over and over again.
[03:03:44] Meanwhile, Japan developed, sure, as a vassal state, okay, became this competitive economy,
[03:03:53] Maybe grew a little bit too much for America's liking than America came in and was like enough, right?
[03:04:10] Brother say you love Japan. I mean, it's been a long time since and has great. Yeah, I mean, I I think Japan is dope as well
[03:04:18] I'm I'm a I'm agnostic. I'm
[03:04:20] I'm a centrist. I love China. I love Japan. I think they both have wonderful qualities,
[03:04:27] and there are definitely things that we can learn from each country, okay? But if we're talking
[03:04:32] about it within the framework of World War II, I mean, they were Adolf Hitler. They were Japanese
[03:04:36] Adolf Hitler, okay? The very fact that I have to explain it as they were Japanese Adolf Hitler
[03:04:43] is an indication that people don't learn about the horrifying war crimes of Japan in general.
[03:04:50] as a Japanese person Japan is that rough has a rough fucking year Lomao
[03:05:06] shamefully hiding in the bushes hoping nobody notices me yeah I mean your
[03:05:10] your current leadership is is really really bad
[03:05:15] Japan used Korea as a rape colony for fuck's sake. Yeah, I mean, it's also true. The current
[03:05:28] leader actually unironically refused to acknowledge those war crimes and famously, famously spoke
[03:05:34] out against it. I think she might have even written a book.
[03:05:36] I believe wrote a book about how Japanese history is actually totally infallible, and it's ridiculous that people even criticize it.
[03:05:51] She's a hardcore revisionist and very, very right-wing.
[03:06:06] Well, it's always also been funny is that they still have unbelievable amounts of racism
[03:06:15] and smoke for the Chinese and Koreans, even after everything that they did.
[03:06:19] But that's, that's totally for a, as, as, as for a separate date to discuss.
[03:06:25] It's like, bro, how can you be like, how can you, how can you still have a hatred in your
[03:06:32] heart for these other countries when you were the one who was, you know, destroying them?
[03:06:36] It's really crazy.
[03:06:43] Bro, you're anti-Asian-American?
[03:06:45] Yeah, famously.
[03:06:48] Do the Koreans have a similar level of animosity?
[03:06:51] Yes, the Koreans are not exactly.
[03:06:54] I mean, they're South Koreans, not North Koreans,
[03:06:59] but South Korean's perspective on Japan has shifted over the years.
[03:07:04] You know, they're also another vassal state to America. They've actually developed better relations with Japan over the years
[03:07:12] But I think I would say by and large
[03:07:15] South Korea still obviously don't really like
[03:07:19] Japan
[03:07:34] No, there's polling on the South Korean attitudes towards Japan.
[03:07:51] It's improved over the years.
[03:07:56] So even the public's opinion has changed.
[03:08:00] and at the Battle of Midway. Turning the tide of the war against the once mighty Japanese.
[03:08:21] Anyway.
[03:08:23] Wow, that was a long ass fucking tangent off of I don't even remember what caused this tangent.
[03:08:28] Let's watch SF Gates coverage on on me doing this rally.
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[03:08:50] He now has a visible presence on the campaign trail, supporting progressive candidates across the country as part of a larger movement to restructure the Democratic Party.
[03:08:58] While many of his comments have been met with criticism, there is no denying that Piker
[03:09:14] sustained a study footing in the political zeitgeist.
[03:09:16] I'm a big fan of Hassan and I'm a fan of Shroy Khan.
[03:09:20] I just submitted my ballot to vote for him.
[03:09:22] I drove all the way down here from Sacramento to...
[03:09:26] No, don't say that.
[03:09:27] They're going to be like, oh, they're, they're busing in supporters.
[03:09:30] Uh, let's see here for a second.
[03:09:32] I don't get why the Democratic Party is apoplectic about this guy.
[03:09:36] Piker returned to San Francisco this week to rally beside Shrekha Chakrabarti,
[03:09:39] the progressive leading candidate seeking to absorb Nancy Pelosi's seat.
[03:09:43] Chakrabarti earned millions working in Silicon Valley as a founding engineer for STRIKE,
[03:09:47] then committed himself to public service by working for Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders
[03:09:51] and eventually helping elect Narek Rath, Alexander Ocasio-Cortez,
[03:09:54] through the nonprofit Justice Democrats.
[03:09:56] Democrats.
[03:09:57] Chakra Bharti and San Francisco supervisor Connie Chan are nearly tied for second place
[03:10:01] behind Democrats Senator Scott Wiener with an influential voice like Piker in his corner.
[03:10:10] Chakra Bharti could get the support he's looking for.
[03:10:12] The primary is Gene Seckend.
[03:10:14] There's a lot of people who fucking San Francisco left.
[03:10:20] They never forgive and they never forget.
[03:10:23] As far as like all of the local, uh, moves that Shroikata has made, people fucking people
[03:10:28] are not fond of him at all.
[03:10:32] So much so that they're like fans of mine are getting mad at me and saying like, oh,
[03:10:37] I wonder if he's getting paid.
[03:10:39] Like first of all, of course not.
[03:10:40] You should fucking know better San Francisco left without saying goodbye.
[03:10:44] I mean, San Francisco left is like tiny.
[03:10:46] Unfortunately, um, they made significant gains in the past and, uh, this last decade has
[03:10:50] been a death and destruction from the fucking tech fascists on all of the, uh, the, on the
[03:10:58] entirety of the San Francisco left. What did he do? I mean, one, he's also a tech bro
[03:11:03] and very, very wealthy, right? So that's like, that's, they're, they're reminded of all of
[03:11:11] the other, uh, piece of shit tech pros that have destroyed their dream of having any kind
[03:11:15] of representative, any kind of left political representation in San Francisco. Okay. But
[03:11:25] then also on top of that, he gave 10 grand to Dean Preston's opponent.
[03:11:38] Sampark is not controversial at all. He keeps saying something that sounds controversial,
[03:11:41] but when you listen to the whole conversation, it's well thought out. I agree, like 95% of what
[03:11:45] he says, successful social interaction. I saw many of his comments and it's just the same three.
[03:11:49] They keep resurfacing from years ago. He's also my doctor. Damn, everyone's like he's not controversial.
[03:12:02] Bro, that's local Dems nationally. Dems at the local level hold the biggest grudges against
[03:12:06] former candidates, new blood changes, etc. Yes. It's really interesting perspective because they
[03:12:12] think like, they don't look at the entirety of his expenditures on the national level.
[03:12:19] They don't look at his like background and like working with AOC, working with Bernie
[03:12:22] Sanders early on. That plays no role in their calculation. It's all just like local grievances,
[03:12:29] which is understandable. You can draw, you can figure out what someone's perspective
[03:12:36] is by just looking at their, looking at whatever, whatever initiatives they funded at the local
[03:12:43] level. Um, so I don't even, I don't even hold it against a lot of people. It's just that
[03:12:51] I do genuinely believe that he is, uh, the, the person who can absolutely defeat Scott
[03:12:59] Wiener, uh, who will be your Congress person. If you're in San Francisco and you're leftist
[03:13:04] San Francisco, Scott Weiner is going to be your fucking Congressperson for the next 40 years.
[03:13:08] Okay, so get excited for that if that's what you want. And some people apparently do want that
[03:13:13] because he has a highest name recognition. Scott Weiner is really good on environmental policy.
[03:13:26] Oh my god.
[03:13:34] Great, he's really bad on everything else. He's really good on LGBT stuff too.
[03:13:43] I'm not the kind of guy to defend a song when he's bad mother, but the SF moment was legendary bro.
[03:13:48] Raise it through the roof. Akeem would have loved the SF fist as well.
[03:13:51] He's also great at taking deep breaks. No, that's not. Scott Wiener is not the same guy. You're thinking of a different Wiener.
[03:14:01] Did you see this oh yeah this is gonna be another discourse bomb a discourse
[03:14:24] grenade, coming from AOC against Marjorie Taylor Greene.
[03:14:30] And it's gonna frustrate, this is like designed to piss off, you know, Jake Uger, barbarism
[03:14:38] critic, Queenie Nielo and everybody else on Twitter, okay?
[03:14:46] I know, I saw it.
[03:14:50] I feel like I'm the connective tissue here in some respects because I understand and
[03:15:11] acknowledge both sides of this argument, ironically enough.
[03:15:20] And anytime this conversation opens up, people lose their fucking minds.
[03:15:26] I will say, I do lean a little bit more on the AOC side of this predicament though.
[03:15:32] I mean, I'll take it.
[03:15:33] I'll take any support I can get.
[03:15:34] You guys know this already.
[03:15:36] But I am the centrist on this issue between the AOC side of the conversation and the anti-Zionists
[03:15:46] who are yelling at her, specifically on Marjorie Taylor Greene.
[03:15:52] And I don't, I care about results, I care about results.
[03:16:07] Now there are certain places where, certain areas where I don't think that we should ignore
[03:16:18] some folks record on some of these issues, right?
[03:16:20] So where we trust intent, where we trust where those outcomes are going.
[03:16:26] I personally do not trust someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene, a proven bigot and anti-Semite
[03:16:34] on the issues of what is good for Gazans and Israelis.
[03:16:37] I know.
[03:16:38] I don't think that it benefits our movements in that instance to align the left with white
[03:16:47] nationalists.
[03:16:49] I don't think it serves us.
[03:16:50] And so I think it's about looking at the context,
[03:16:55] the place, the results, the outcomes, intentions,
[03:16:58] and where we think that train would go.
[03:17:01] But as far as what someone says about me,
[03:17:04] if you care less,
[03:17:05] and I think it's really about what our outcomes are.
[03:17:09] And to be honest, there are some areas
[03:17:11] where things will not get done if they're partisan
[03:17:15] because they are anti-establishment.
[03:17:17] Um, the, there's bipartisan consensus on keeping and protecting stock trading in Congress.
[03:17:26] And so it's going to require massive bipartisan consensus of people willing to come together
[03:17:31] across those differences to get it done.
[03:17:37] I mean, it, Twitter authors are hating on answering that because shit goes instead of
[03:17:42] Palestinians.
[03:17:43] I can't fucking came in.
[03:17:44] Yeah. I don't think that was deliberate. Um, Gosens is awful. She just doesn't know. Yeah. I don't think she, I don't think that's deliberate. I don't think that's like a deliberate choice of, uh, uh, wording there to like deny, uh, to, to, um, deny Palestinians like recognition as a people.
[03:18:03] But the Marjorie Taylor Greene situation is a unique one because like, I love you,
[03:18:10] Han Omar, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been unbelievably violent, vile towards you Han
[03:18:17] Omar. And she is like, yeah, in spite of all of that, I do, you know, I do respect. I guess I do
[03:18:25] think that there is like some gains to be made here. But also at the same time, I think AOC's
[03:18:30] warnings are correct. Like Marjorie Taylor Green has not done enough to prove that she
[03:18:37] is like, you know, she's done a decent chunk to prove that she's more sympathetic than
[03:18:44] the average politician on this issue, on the issue of Israel, but she absolutely has not
[03:18:49] done enough to prove that she's like not a fucking demonic entity at this point. I mean,
[03:18:54] crazy. It's crazy.
[03:19:03] I think that has been very fascinating, especially about
[03:19:07] Marjorie and Candace, is that they are not just coming out
[03:19:12] like the other ones that you'd mentioned, where they're
[03:19:16] saying, this action is wrong, right? They're saying, I am done
[03:19:20] with you. We should give them credit for that.
[03:19:24] I don't know what else she said on top of that though. Why are you so critical? Why are you so
[03:19:32] Incritical of AOC brothers genuinely embarrassed. What the fuck is AOC done and she criticized them
[03:19:37] leadership like Margie Taylor Green did the Republicans bro check my logs
[03:19:41] AOC is working tirelessly for a ceasefire chatters
[03:19:44] I mean I if you make a if you make an honest assessment off of like every legislative action that AOC is done
[03:19:51] in her career, every legislative action that she's ever taken in her career and
[03:19:56] then compare it to Marjorie Taylor Greene's track record and you still
[03:19:58] think Marjorie Taylor Greene is actually better than AOC, you're genuinely a dumb
[03:20:03] person. Like I don't know what to even explain to you, like I don't even know
[03:20:10] how we can have a conversation at that point. Like I do give Marjorie Taylor
[03:20:19] credit for being an unlikely ally in this issue. But there is the thing, the
[03:20:33] problem with AOC is that there's so much misinformation and people's brains just,
[03:20:41] people's brains shut off when they think about AOC on the left. We are far more
[03:20:47] ruthless of people who are ideologically closest to us, not to say that she's like there, right?
[03:20:56] Not to say that she's like 100% there, not to say that she's infallible,
[03:20:59] like working tirelessly for a ceasefire is like a perfectly valid critique
[03:21:04] about what AOC has said and done aligning with Biden and telling Biden not to drop out. These
[03:21:09] are things that I have criticized. Other things that I've criticized were specifically to even
[03:21:15] allow Marjorie Taylor Greene to be the correct voice on defensive and offensive weapons distinctions
[03:21:22] in Congress, something that AOC is now on board with, right? Like, these are problems, certainly,
[03:21:31] in the way that AOC communicates. But the way people treat it, they don't have a consistent
[03:21:37] framework that they analyze politicians on.
[03:21:43] It turns into I don't like this person and here are a million reasons why
[03:21:50] many of those millions are just exaggerations off of like what she has done
[03:21:58] that is worthy of criticism.
[03:22:00] that turns into red lines that people design for themselves that they don't actually hold other people to the same standard.
[03:22:18] So I have a consistent framework on this where I say I grade policies on a curve.
[03:22:25] I matched them up with the rest of the political class.
[03:22:32] AOC is far above and far closer to our goals and our perspectives than virtually the rest of Congress.
[03:22:46] Even if at times she says things that I am unbelievably critical of,
[03:22:54] Even if even if at times she does the wrong thing says the wrong thing
[03:23:03] Like many people probably don't know this but like Jamal Bowman has
[03:23:07] Unlike a OC. I love Jamal Bowman. You know, I love Jamal Bowman. Jamal Bowman is literally voted
[03:23:12] To send weapons to Israel, right?
[03:23:16] Jamal Bowman was punished for being a one of the few lone
[03:23:20] anti-zionist voices in Congress. And I loved them all Bowman. So how do you
[03:23:27] square that circle? Right? If I can make that distinction in my mind and be
[03:23:38] more understanding of people's mistakes even on the legislative side where
[03:23:44] have the most amount of impact, right? Then you should be able to do this as well.
[03:23:53] Because if you were to ask the average person, for example, right now between Ro Khanna and AOC,
[03:23:57] a lot of people love Ro Khanna, I do too, right? I think Ro Khanna's great. AOC's legislative
[03:24:03] track record is far more progressive than Ro Khanna's though. But she gives all the f***ing hate.
[03:24:09] This isn't to say go hate on Ro Khanna. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just trying to
[03:24:13] to re-center the charitability that you afford certain candidates that you don't afford to AOC,
[03:24:20] so you develop a more consistent framework that you operate off of.
[03:24:30] Do you see what I mean?
[03:24:36] That's what this is.
[03:24:37] If you don't know what I'm saying, this is right. Well, does AOC have to deny the policy
[03:24:46] and ally? I mean, I think she's making a fair assessment here that, that it will take a
[03:24:52] lot for her to, to, to consider Marjorie Taylor-Green to be a true ally in this cause. And I don't
[03:25:00] think that's a wrong assessment. It's one that I also agree with. I, I don't trust Marjorie
[03:25:04] Taylor Green. I don't trust Tucker Carlson. I don't trust Nick Flentes. I don't. And
[03:25:16] a lot of people get mad at me for saying that. A lot of people disagree with me on this issue.
[03:25:24] Marjorie Taylor Green sacrificed her political career to stand against genocide against Trump,
[03:25:27] against the Epstein class and defense survivors of Epstein trafficking. If that doesn't earn
[03:25:30] I don't know what possibly could
[03:25:40] You need to keep these contacts so you treat them with kids gloves
[03:25:45] Yes, dude, I'm really desperate
[03:25:48] I'm really desperate as you know, I love I
[03:25:51] Love hanging out paul. There's my favorite fucking thing. I love doing it
[03:25:55] That's why I keep doing it over and over again these past couple of months and not because
[03:25:58] because I have a well-rounded framework that I'm, a consistent framework that I'm operating
[03:26:08] off of.
[03:26:09] All these used to sock thems are like catnip to you, oh god.
[03:26:15] I hate, I hate the cynicism so much because I'm unbearably transparent with you all the
[03:26:21] fucking time.
[03:26:23] I'm so open about my ambitions.
[03:26:27] One more year of entryism, oh god, it's not, it's not even entryism, it's not like I'm
[03:26:32] saying we're gonna fucking rebuild the democratic party.
[03:26:37] I choose my words very carefully on this, okay, you have an electoral vehicle in front
[03:26:41] of you right now.
[03:26:45] It's the primary driver.
[03:26:48] People just don't like AOC because she talks like a radlib, I think that's part of it,
[03:26:51] yes, and also because she is the woman I think that plays somewhat of a role in this too.
[03:26:57] Oh yeah, the Radlib part is correct.
[03:27:21] Don't you say you want to change the Democratic Party? I'm genuinely confused. Yes, in the interim.
[03:27:25] But if the Democratic Party, which I expected to be unbelievably resistant as it is so far,
[03:27:32] if the Democratic Party is just a brand, okay, that's all it is,
[03:27:37] you can fill it up with whatever you want to fill it up with, but their goal is to ultimately protect corporate interests, okay?
[03:27:45] But right now the Democratic Party is unbelievably weak and their voters,
[03:27:50] self-identifying Democrats, self-identifying liberals,
[03:27:52] actually are not so ideologically invested in third-way neoliberalism as the party is invested.
[03:28:00] They're not invested in defending Israel as the National Democratic Party is invested in defending
[03:28:05] Israel. So we have a real opportunity to make significant gains here and to develop an ideological
[03:28:12] framework and organize and basically drop as many numbers as possible.
[03:28:21] The only way that the American socialist movement has ever grown in the last decade or so is
[03:28:27] by way of these electoral vehicles that are basically free for the taking, okay?
[03:28:34] Bernie Sanders in 2016, Bernie Sanders again in 2020, AOC was another major driver in the
[03:28:42] DSA memberships. Even the most like rabid anti-democratic party people will openly admit
[03:28:56] that the Bernie Sanders was an eye-opening moment for them in 2016. Okay? This is what
[03:29:05] it takes to build a real fucking, this is what it takes to build a movement. Build a movement
[03:29:12] beyond the Democratic Party. It's because your SJW is more important to you than anti-imperialism.
[03:29:18] What? Yeah, if you think Marjorie Taylor Greene is a fucking anti-imperialist, you're an absolute
[03:29:24] duller. Alright, I'm sorry. Marjorie Taylor Greene, who literally still says, why are
[03:29:29] we giving money to Ukraine? We should be spending that money bombing Mexico instead. That's
[03:29:34] your fucking anti-imperialist hero. Are you a donkey? Are you a fucking baboon? Are you
[03:29:39] a moron? Are you okay? What do you mean SJW? You think I'm a fucking SJW? What the hell
[03:29:44] are you talking about? Have the fucking critics of mine or Radlib saying I use vulgar fucking
[03:29:51] language? Suck my dick, dumbass. A lot of people generally think Tucker, Margie Taylor-Greener
[03:30:00] are better than AOC and others like that, but if you think that you're not on the left,
[03:30:04] you can put up with the white nationalism, hatred, gain trans people, historic end of
[03:30:06] support for Israel until it became unpopular. Anti-redistributive policies and hatred of
[03:30:11] immigrants just became, just because they say, fuck Israel, some of you don't care about anything,
[03:30:15] I swear to God.
[03:30:22] Like, the, the, this is how, this is how you literally end up getting caught off guard
[03:30:32] and and supporting opportunists I think Tucker Carlson and it's a certain
[03:30:39] degree Marjorie Taylor Greene is an opportunist okay you take their support
[03:30:43] and you say great thank you for your support but you're joining our side on
[03:30:49] this okay but some of you some of you genuinely think they are the fucking
[03:30:54] movement leaders. What the fuck are you talking about? It's totally ridiculous. Do you have
[03:31:05] a principled worldview? Or do you just like kind of hate Israel and you don't know why
[03:31:11] you hate Israel? Sometimes it feels like a lot of people hate Israel because it's the
[03:31:16] cool thing to do. If you have a principled world view, if you have an underlying ideological
[03:31:25] distaste for what Israel is doing, if you're an anti-fascist, if you're an anti-imperialist,
[03:31:29] if you're anti-genocide, and that's the reason why you hate Israel, then what the fuck are we doing?
[03:31:36] What's next? You're going to tell me Dan Bilzerian is a great person? What are we doing here?
[03:31:46] your chat are now doing the centers well all you care about is Israel thing now great stuff what horse shit
[03:31:57] it's because of uses democrats you know who come from the party you are supporting your voter for a genocide there
[03:32:02] piss real nobody knows who the fuck you are okay you have to understand at a certain point that I am actually putting my fucking entire families life on the line when I say that things that I say about Israel and not only the Israel but all of the
[03:32:15] not only the Israel, but also the Palestinian resistance. You have a username called PISRIEL
[03:32:20] in my fucking chat, okay? How can you say that I'm not like, you know, putting my money
[03:32:25] where my fucking mouth is on this issue? God damn it, you are so fucking stupid. Have
[03:32:30] a little bit of grace. Have a little bit of humility. Have a little bit of fucking decency
[03:32:34] in your analysis. Bare minimum stuff. Okay, sh- okay, dude. Well, thank you. Thank you
[03:32:40] for being the most moral force here, okay? Thank you.
[03:32:45] god damn dude
[03:32:47] every fucking day
[03:32:49] on being called a god damn terrorist
[03:32:51] by unbelievably powerful forces in this fucking party
[03:32:55] and there's still a moron in the fucking chat that goes dude what have you done
[03:32:59] you're actually pro-israel you're actually a Zionist like holy shit dude
[03:33:04] what do you want you want me to be fucking assassinated until
[03:33:07] and at which point you go okay maybe he actually was serious about this stuff
[03:33:15] What the fuck are we doing? How have you not seen the metric ton of dick I'm eating on
[03:33:27] a fucking daily basis from openly Zionist groups? They understand the danger of someone
[03:33:36] like myself being able to communicate openly in mainstream media my positions that are
[03:33:43] in defense, not only against Israel from a ideologically consistent perspective, being
[03:33:50] anti-genocide, being anti-fascist, but also offering analysis on why resistance groups
[03:33:59] form, reasserting the importance of international law.
[03:34:11] Not assassinated?
[03:34:12] Are you really not assassinated?
[03:34:13] just something more impactful. Brother, we are literally one step short of stochastic
[03:34:18] terrorism, me being victim to stochastic terrorism. Okay? That's it. We have arrived at, there's
[03:34:23] two things that can possibly happen to me. I get arrested by the administration or I
[03:34:28] get fucking killed by a random lone gunman or I get fucking killed directly by an intelligence
[03:34:35] asset. That's it. There's nothing else that can happen to me at this point. Okay? What
[03:34:41] the fuck are you talking about? What more could happen? What more could happen? There's
[03:34:48] plenty that does happen behind the scenes that you're completely oblivious to. I'm never
[03:34:51] going to talk about it and I'm not going to talk about it right now. It doesn't fucking
[03:34:54] matter, okay? But beyond being straight up fucking killed, okay, directly killed by either
[03:35:07] a lone gunman or you know going to fucking prison there's not really much
[03:35:14] more that you know the pro-Israel crowd could do to me right at this point
[03:35:22] the fuck
[03:35:37] Anyway.
[03:35:55] What is this?
[03:36:09] It's become a standard.
[03:36:10] Let's just view that Trump was a backlash to Obama not being socialist enough and I
[03:36:14] don't think that's what happened, lol.
[03:36:19] Maybe you could argue it's not, it's good politics to pretend that that's what happened,
[03:36:23] that's not what happened.
[03:36:27] You ever did reporting instead of talking to a camera,
[03:36:29] you might know that Obama's coalition fell apart over the economy.
[03:36:31] Millions of homeowners lost homes and their lifetime wealth.
[03:36:41] AOC is hated by BlueMaga.
[03:36:45] BlueMaga and tankies both sound like right wingers. This is insane.
[03:36:49] I mean,
[03:36:50] No, I don't think blue MAGA hates AOC. I think blue MAGA loves AOC. There are definitely
[03:36:58] people to AOC's left who are maybe a little bit above and beyond with their criticisms,
[03:37:06] especially when they match up AOC with like Marjorie Taylor Greene and say Marjorie Taylor
[03:37:09] Greene is better. And I don't know how to, I don't know how to, to calculate that. Okay.
[03:37:17] Because ironically enough, AOC called what Israel's doing in genocide far before Marjorie
[03:37:22] Taylor Greene did in the halls of Congress.
[03:37:33] But yeah, Libs love AOC.
[03:37:48] For the same reasons why I think a lot of people on the left don't like AOC.
[03:37:52] And no, it's not because of her inconsistencies on saying Israel's doing genocide and then
[03:38:01] turning around and still saying that like divided administration is working tirelessly
[03:38:05] versus fire when they clearly weren't or saying that Israel still has a right to defend itself
[03:38:08] or whatever the fuck, right?
[03:38:11] The reason why they like AOC is because she does communicate in a very specific way.
[03:38:18] Sometimes there's radlib tendencies and that is what really triggers the fuck out of the
[03:38:23] anti-id Paul left.
[03:38:25] Okay.
[03:38:26] It reminds them of all of the people that have, it reminds them of Hillary Clinton.
[03:38:30] It reminds them of the forces within the party that have purposely excised the left over
[03:38:35] and over again.
[03:38:37] That's it.
[03:38:39] Bernie doesn't talk like that, which is why they love Bernie.
[03:38:42] AOC is far better on Israel than Bernie fucking Sanders is.
[03:38:47] Make this make sense.
[03:38:53] I think it's aesthetics.
[03:38:56] I think aesthetics play a big role in this.
[03:39:00] AOC is objectively to the left of Bernie Sanders on the issue of Israel, objectively, okay?
[03:39:11] And I am willing to work alongside both of these people.
[03:39:21] What would you say to the people that say by supporting people like AOC, a Bernie or
[03:39:23] a planner or others, you're funneling people back into the Democratic Party instead of
[03:39:26] building something more radical?
[03:39:51] Unfortunately,
[03:39:55] You have to build a mass movement before you build a successful third party in a country
[03:40:06] like the United States of America.
[03:40:07] I'm a fan of you, but legitimately curious.
[03:40:11] Americans by and large do not have class consciousness nor political education.
[03:40:14] The best possible way to, one, foment class consciousness in this country and to build
[03:40:21] political education is by organizing and building the the building blocks of a
[03:40:27] movement. Okay, I see the DSA and PSL as pretty effective forms of of engaging
[03:40:36] Americans with class consciousness and and feeding them the political
[03:40:40] education necessary for them to build a robust third party down the line. The
[03:40:45] DSA also has an attitude on this they called the dirty break the idea that
[03:40:49] you just keep running insurgencies, uh, insurgent candidates within the party and until the
[03:40:55] party like directly pushes them out. Okay. Because they realize that there is like this,
[03:41:02] this massive growing democratic socialist movement within the party at which point,
[03:41:07] there is enough popularity for this party and enough ideological, uh, differences that
[03:41:12] most Americans can comprehend that they don't treat it like a random third party that will
[03:41:18] rarely ever break through and
[03:41:21] Will actively try
[03:41:24] To to or will have to fight for ballot access all around
[03:41:31] All around the country these are fed ask questions from folks who want you to see the quiet part out loud and blast it on the
[03:41:36] Mation media to divorce you from having any influence in the DNC you've made yourself clear enough I
[03:41:44] Have I don't have a like I have a hatred
[03:41:48] for reactionary politics and therefore I will, you know, never align myself with the Republicans
[03:41:54] and the foreseeable future, right? But as far as like party loyalty goes,
[03:42:03] there is no loyalty to any party. The party is a vehicle to make changes that you want to see,
[03:42:09] okay? That's what democracy is. And I see out of the duopoly that currently exists, the Democratic
[03:42:14] party to be a more effective method of demanding those changes, popularizing said changes,
[03:42:23] popularizing said political ideologies, to combat a century of red scare propaganda
[03:42:31] and the complete evisceration of labor militancy in this country, complete evisceration of class
[03:42:36] consciousness in this country. One might even say that there wasn't really a lot of class
[03:42:41] consciousness in America as a proto-capitalist country, regardless, especially considering
[03:42:49] that even, I believe, Steinbeck, who during the Great Depression era, when there was
[03:42:58] far more radical politics, far more open revolutionary politics in this country, who said Americans
[03:43:04] will never have socialism because the working class here do not see themselves as an exploited
[03:43:11] proletariat, but temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
[03:43:24] So I do not know.
[03:43:38] I think you've contributed to Steinbeck.
[03:43:39] I forget who actually wrote it, you're right.
[03:43:52] It was Richard Wright, not Steinbeck.
[03:44:03] Meet my girlfriend, Doronok, for Chris Rapp today.
[03:44:06] I never thought her anarchist ass
[03:44:07] be interested in Electoralism, but your students who have event changed their mind?
[03:44:11] Good. This isn't like funneling the revolutionary potential of the masses back to a bourgeois
[03:44:18] party. Electoralism is a tool. I recognize the dangers that are imminent. I recognize the
[03:44:28] growth of fascism in this country. This is an all-front war against fascism. So if there's a
[03:44:35] tool that is readily available to us, especially in this moment of weakness in the Democratic
[03:44:39] Party where the demands from the base of support of the party is a fighting party, candidates
[03:44:45] that will actually center the interests of the masses rather than the interests of corporations
[03:44:50] when there is unprecedented unpopularity of the Democratic Party within the Democratic
[03:44:56] Party's base of support.
[03:44:58] The idea that you're not going to push for more responsive politicians that will center
[03:45:02] the working class is idiotic, you're just wasting it. And contrary to what these Twitter
[03:45:07] revolutionaries say, the irony is the Democrats who are in control over the party understand
[03:45:15] that danger. They understand what I'm doing far better than the hammer and sickle Twitter
[03:45:19] users do. Okay? They see it as a threat because they see a change within the party structure,
[03:45:27] within the party system in any way, shape or form that will place the interest of the
[03:45:31] working class ahead of the interests of corporations to be a real, ever-present danger to their
[03:45:35] power. Okay? And that's precisely the reason why they align with the Republicans to attack
[03:45:43] me endlessly. They do it. You know, even with a third party, people will still complain.
[03:46:00] I mean there is no real third party viability, they're laughing at you though.
[03:46:06] Who is, who's laughing at me?
[03:46:10] Hammer and Sickle Twitter users are laughing at me?
[03:46:16] People who will in private moments openly admit that Bernie Sanders' insurgent campaign
[03:46:21] in 2016 opened their eyes up to Marxist Leninism are laughing at me?
[03:46:26] Oh, no, what will I do?
[03:46:33] No Democrats?
[03:46:34] I don't know if the Democrats are laughing.
[03:46:39] I think there are plenty of Democrats who actually like the insurgency campaigns, including
[03:46:45] Graham Platner.
[03:46:46] Those people don't know who the fuck I am.
[03:46:48] Most people don't know who the fuck I am at all.
[03:46:53] But the Democrats who do know who the fuck I am, they're not laughing.
[03:46:56] worried. If they were laughing, they wouldn't be spending all this time on
[03:47:02] mainstream outlets being like, Hasan is an ever-present danger. But it's not about
[03:47:08] me anyway.
[03:47:16] I don't think they're laughing at all. I wish. I wish they were. I wish they were
[03:47:20] like, huh, this guy's a fucking loser. Who gives a shit? At which point it would
[03:47:26] to talk about me. That'd be great. They act like I'm, I'm running for office. Yeah, PA.
[03:47:40] Yeah, look at that. PA three preliminary, pre primary fundraising April 1st to April
[03:47:52] April 29th. And from April 30th to May 8th, Rob has, Rob has as fundraised, out-fundraised
[03:48:02] their opponents over and over again. 200,000 as opposed to Stanford's 78,000 and Streets'
[03:48:13] 111,000.
[03:48:43] Anyway, let's see what the Platinum and Davis Arrota are talking about when I got a P and
[03:48:59] then Millot Kuros is going to be here in a minute.
[03:49:05] We did not stop the neoliberal project.
[03:49:09] That's fine.
[03:49:10] When Obama comes in and so many people are looking for this significant change, and then
[03:49:17] materially we kind of just continue with the same neoliberal policies that still trickle
[03:49:23] down economics.
[03:49:24] I mean, that's bailing out the banks and not bailing out the homeowners.
[03:49:27] That engenders an intense amount of anger and frustration, and I think total disillusionment
[03:49:34] with the system itself.
[03:49:35] When you look at the old blue wall waiver states,
[03:49:39] there was just the fact that it had just been another eight
[03:49:42] years of a continued subversion of the power of late.
[03:49:48] And you continue to see places that used to be strong,
[03:49:52] strong unions, like Bastions, they just
[03:49:56] became Trump voting places.
[03:49:59] The Democratic Party continued to not show up
[03:50:02] for organized labor in those places.
[03:50:04] And so you've got folks,
[03:50:06] the material conditions are getting worse.
[03:50:08] They want things to be different.
[03:50:10] They just got excited and thought they were about
[03:50:12] to be different and they weren't.
[03:50:14] And then Donald Trump comes along and says,
[03:50:17] no, it's all fucked up.
[03:50:18] All these people are scumbags.
[03:50:20] All these people are stealing from you.
[03:50:22] Assistance rigged against you.
[03:50:24] American carnage, which ironically,
[03:50:26] he has now absolutely created.
[03:50:29] But like that whole thing,
[03:50:31] You know, we all got beaten into the ground by this like long neoliberal project that
[03:50:39] was always bound to fail for working paper, for the Democratic Party to continue to exist,
[03:50:45] for it to have any hope in the future, in my opinion.
[03:50:49] It needs to excise from itself corporate power and a relationship with neoliberalism, quite
[03:50:58] frankly.
[03:50:59] What we need to be doing now is getting that way of thinking, getting that ideology, just
[03:51:05] out of the party.
[03:51:06] I'm all for a big tent.
[03:51:08] I firmly believe that, like that nobody has to have my exact politics, or you could disagree
[03:51:12] on some stuff, plenty of stuff actually.
[03:51:15] But there should be no place in the Democratic Party for someone who is like chummy with Silicon
[03:51:19] Valley tech bros.
[03:51:21] There should be nobody who like has a close relationship with fossil fuel companies.
[03:51:27] And if people want to go have an argument with themselves about whether their kind of progressive social ideas
[03:51:35] are more important than like protecting billionaires' taxes or lack of taxes, go have that fight in the Republican Party. Make that bear problem.
[03:51:46] The Leather.
[03:51:57] I'm not gonna do that right now.
[03:52:04] I literally have a guest.
[03:52:09] That's crazy.
[03:52:12] Okay.
[03:52:17] Um,
[03:52:21] I think this is good, right?
[03:52:28] Okay, that's good.
[03:52:37] I think this is good, right?
[03:52:43] Okay, that's good.
[03:52:49] I honestly never thought I'd be able to vote for candidate Platter in the local main election.
[03:52:56] Here, we'll run the TV ad real quick, okay?
[03:53:04] Ladies and gentlemen, in a few moments, I'll be joined by Maylott Keros, candidate for
[03:53:15] U.S. House of Representatives in Colorado, 1.
[03:53:18] It's Denver, D plus 29 district.
[03:53:24] She's an Ethiopian immigrant, a DSA member endorsed by Sunrise Justice Dems, and Denver
[03:53:28] DSA.
[03:53:31] data is on Tuesday, June 30th, 2026. Unaffiliated voters can participate in either primary.
[03:53:40] The general election is on November 3rd, 2026. The district demographics are D plus 29, Biden
[03:53:48] won 80%. One of the bluer districts in the country. And yeah, she's an attorney. And
[03:53:58] I am going to be having conversation with her. We already had a brief conversation before
[03:54:07] at the Shoaika Chakrabarti Rally. And this is her campaign ad.
[03:54:16] I'm Maylok Kuros. I'm a lawyer and immigrant raised in Denver, and I'm running for Congress
[03:54:22] because establishment Democrats have failed us. Diana DeGette has been in office for decades.
[03:54:27] Yeah, I hear that a lot from people that come to my house or they're like you got canceled for this
[03:54:33] This doesn't make any sense
[03:54:35] Yeah
[03:54:37] But yeah, may like heroes everybody
[03:54:40] Welcome to the broadcast. We're just gonna we're just gonna watch your your campaign out real quick
[03:54:44] I don't know if it's awkward for you to rewatch it. It's like it's like hearing your own voice
[03:54:48] It's incredibly
[03:54:50] Are you are you used to hearing your own voice yet? Oh, okay. I
[03:54:54] I yeah, that was a that was a big
[03:54:58] Yeah, I mean it's been like 13 years is doing this so I'm super used to it
[03:55:03] But I still remember when I first started I was like, oh my god
[03:55:06] This is what I sound like it's fucking terrible
[03:55:08] I look like anything the facial movements I make that I did not realize until yeah
[03:55:15] Wait, hold on night night. Oh you you spoiled it
[03:55:19] I'm a lawyer, an immigrant raised in Denver, and I'm running for Congress because establishment
[03:55:25] Democrats have failed us.
[03:55:27] Diana DeGette has been in office for decades, backed by the same billionaires and corporations
[03:55:32] who keep our prices high, burn our planet, and profit from genocide.
[03:55:37] It's time for a change.
[03:55:39] It's time for medicals to all, it's time to abolish ICE and to actually fight back against
[03:55:45] Donald Trump.
[03:55:47] Damn, it's good. It's powerful.
[03:55:50] All right, you can bring it out.
[03:55:51] Wow, we got a gift for you.
[03:55:53] Hannah cooked it already, but.
[03:55:54] Oh, these are.
[03:55:58] There you go.
[03:55:59] Thank you.
[03:56:00] We have a policy of bringing
[03:56:02] all this is so cool.
[03:56:04] Some of the guest favorite things.
[03:56:06] Oh, my gosh.
[03:56:07] When they when they joined the broadcast.
[03:56:09] I love these trips.
[03:56:11] Yeah, you're you're a vegan, right?
[03:56:14] I'm vegetarian.
[03:56:15] Vegetarian now.
[03:56:16] Okay, until this campaign is over. Wait, what happened? What what made you what made you start eating eggs?
[03:56:23] I was starving. I didn't have time to cook my food. Uh-huh. And
[03:56:28] I needed to eat. I'm starting to get really like headed a lot at events and stuff. So I was like,
[03:56:32] All right, let me just put in some dairy so I don't starve, especially when you travel. If you're a vegan and you're flying
[03:56:38] airports are actually like deserts. So you've you've cooked the vegans in the chat. They're gonna lose that. I know I'm sorry
[03:56:44] I'm a traitor. I'm a traitor.
[03:56:46] I'm sorry.
[03:56:48] You're no longer fully vegan.
[03:56:52] Until the campaign is over.
[03:56:54] Okay.
[03:56:56] And then one of your policies is to make sure that it's only vegan food.
[03:57:00] For everybody. Yeah.
[03:57:02] No more meat.
[03:57:04] It's over. Sorry, everybody.
[03:57:06] This is the real Green New Deal.
[03:57:08] They were saying like AOC is going to take your burgers away, but
[03:57:10] But, um, may I ask you, okay, we should stop writing all the oppo ads, but yeah, male
[03:57:18] like heroes is a Tigrayan American attorney, PhD student and a barista, mountain and surgeon
[03:57:24] campaign in Colorado's first congressional district against the 15 term, 15 term democratic
[03:57:31] incumbent Diana to get who has held the seat since 1997.
[03:57:36] How old were you in 1997?
[03:57:37] If you don't mind me asking, I wasn't alive.
[03:57:39] Well, at least when she got elected, I wasn't alive. Okay. Uh, the year before Melot's family
[03:57:44] immigrated from Ethiopia to America, Melot was famously fired for one of America's,
[03:57:49] from one of America's largest law firms in 2023 for refusing to take down a letter
[03:57:54] defending student protests and criticizing Israel's genocide in Gaza, which advocated for a one
[03:58:00] state solution. This principle stand led her to run for Congress, where she's become a part of a
[03:58:05] a new wave of anti-war candidates endorsed by the Sunrise Movement and also Justice Democrats.
[03:58:10] Born in Addis Ababa and raised in Colorado, she's running in a validly Democratic Socialist
[03:58:16] Campaign centered on Medicare for All, Housing First, Universal Child Care, and an arms embargo
[03:58:21] on Israel. While rejecting corporate PAC money, she's shocked Colorado Democrats by decisively
[03:58:26] winning the District Assembly, but a real test is whether that insurgent energy can
[03:58:31] scale to the primary election on June 30th. Thank you so much for being here. Very excited
[03:58:38] to have you here. Thank you for having me. What are your chances looking like by your estimation?
[03:58:44] I mean, it's such a, it's so unpredictable when you're doing something that no challenger's ever
[03:58:51] gotten as far as we have in the last 30 years. So she's been in office and has mounted this much
[03:58:56] of a challenge against her. And it's really just going to be a matter of making sure everybody
[03:59:00] and Denver knows that I'm even running and what I'm running for because it resonates with a lot
[03:59:05] of Denverites. In fact, Denverites prefer socialism to capitalism. I think it's like 52-48.
[03:59:13] Wow. Yeah. Okay. So it's right. Denverites are ready. We have universal pre-K. We have term limits.
[03:59:19] We have publicly financed elections. They care about all of these things. But when you're running
[03:59:23] as a first-time candidate against a 30-year incumbent, what you're up against is name ID,
[03:59:28] basically. So that's what we're trying to do. Well, this will certainly help your name recognition.
[03:59:32] But I think so. This small little podcast. So you graduated law school in 2022. Yeah. You started
[03:59:38] working at Sidley Austin and got fired a year later in 2023 for writing a letter as we talked about
[03:59:44] expressing solidarity with Palestine. You've mentioned that hundreds of other lawyers have
[03:59:47] reached out saying they wish they could speak up but couldn't risk losing their health insurance.
[03:59:51] Walk me through what exactly happened and how you believe your commitment to Medicare for all
[03:59:56] ties into your experience, losing your career.
[03:59:59] Yeah.
[04:00:00] You know, I wrote the article because after October 7th, it felt like there were very
[04:00:07] different responses to what had happened.
[04:00:10] And you know, I mean, everybody remembers right being on social media, seeing like some
[04:00:14] of the ways people were talking about Palestinians at the time.
[04:00:17] But I remember being on LinkedIn and like seeing other lawyers just like celebrating
[04:00:23] what they were seeing in Palestine, the leveling of Gaza and the, you know, just complete
[04:00:30] destruction. And I was like, what is missing from this conversation where I could look
[04:00:34] at this as, you know, an inevitable consequence of apartheid of occupation, decades of occupation,
[04:00:41] and somebody else could look at what Israel's response was and say, no, that's what we need
[04:00:46] to do. They need to be leveled. This is too much of a unique evil. So I wrote that article
[04:00:50] trying to add in some of the context that I think was missing for some folks.
[04:00:56] And that didn't land very well with people and after I was asked to take it down I said
[04:01:02] no and then it was about 24 hours after that I got fired and hundreds of lawyers had messaged
[04:01:08] me and were like, I wish I could speak up but I just found out I'm pregnant and I can't
[04:01:13] afford to not have my child care.
[04:01:15] Someone else's husband just lost his job.
[04:01:17] They couldn't afford to lose the health care that she had for the whole family and I realized very quickly that all of these
[04:01:23] Jobs that we have are dangling our most basic needs over us and preventing people from being able to hold our
[04:01:30] Government accountable for these actions for these behaviors
[04:01:33] And if we had our basic needs guaranteed separate from our jobs people would be able to participate in democracy in a much more meaningful way
[04:01:42] Holds their elected officials accountable hold power accountable here and abroad
[04:01:46] And then you're like, well, that's the point. The point is to suppress that descent. And so, yeah.
[04:01:54] This was, they found the Denver study, Colorado Polling Institute, Chatters did,
[04:02:02] that say a bare majority of voters say things endeavor ahead in the right direction,
[04:02:08] but 41% saying that it's not headed in the wrong direction in the total wrong track.
[04:02:14] And on page 46 here, let's see if I can get to it from here. I'm going to scroll all the way down
[04:02:21] In Denver 52% say they're for socialism and only 48% say they're for capitalism
[04:02:27] So I think it's time that Denver gets more responsible politics and more maybe more radical. I guess which is
[04:02:35] At that point, it's not considered radicals consider radical by the party unfortunately
[04:02:40] But yeah, how did your parents feel when you lost your job for speaking out?
[04:02:49] Were they like, what the hell are you doing?
[04:02:50] Well, I mean, we'll put you through law school.
[04:02:52] What's wrong with you?
[04:02:53] Well, and that's exactly why I called my parents before I posted the article.
[04:02:57] I didn't think everybody was going to receive this letter well, right?
[04:03:02] I knew I was going to piss some people off and specifically because I'd been working towards
[04:03:07] for what, like a decade to become a lawyer up until that point. And I don't know, my dad's
[04:03:15] whole point of coming here and and immigrating was so that I would have choices in a way that he
[04:03:20] didn't. And he was like, you're speaking out on genocide. And that's something that we witnessed
[04:03:27] ourselves in Ethiopia with the civil war that happened a few years ago. And, you know, to not
[04:03:33] speak out when I have the privilege to, like, I have kids and I'm a partner. I knew I'd
[04:03:39] be able to go back home if I really needed to and figure out my next steps in a way that
[04:03:42] a lot of people couldn't. And it felt like, you know, I had a responsibility to say something
[04:03:48] in that moment.
[04:03:49] Yeah. So in November, 2033, you wrote an article called the paradox of inclusivity, diversity,
[04:03:56] equity and the suppression of dissent in which you draw parallels between the horrors of
[04:03:59] T-grade genocide that affected much of your own family. Don't look at the questions.
[04:04:04] It's a right thing. You're cheating. You're cheating. Don't look at the questions. That's
[04:04:07] cheating. I'll look somewhere else. I'll eat my chips. Of the T-grade genocide that affected
[04:04:14] much of your own family with Israel's then looming genocide of the Palestinians. With the
[04:04:18] privilege of hindsight, how do you view the shared struggle between the T-grade, the Palestinians,
[04:04:24] and even the indigenous Americans in your home district who have all fallen victim to imperial
[04:04:29] conquest. Yeah, I mean, that was largely why I wrote it in the first place. I remember being
[04:04:36] 12 years old and doing some kind of project and social studies, and I saw that map of 1946,
[04:04:43] and then the UN partition, and then up to 2008. I'm like, this is colonialism. It's pretty clear,
[04:04:50] cut, pretty obvious. But seeing so many other people have a completely different perspective
[04:04:56] looking at it and I don't understand where the disconnect is here, especially when I was seeing
[04:05:03] a lot of the rhetoric from Netanyahu, from different members of the administration,
[04:05:09] that were almost identical to the things that I heard the Ethiopian government saying
[04:05:14] against the Tigrayan people during the war. And then drawing those parallels to all the
[04:05:18] other atrocities we've seen in the world, whether we're talking about the Rwandan genocide,
[04:05:22] whether we're talking about the Holocaust, whether we're talking about the Native American genocide,
[04:05:25] like the the tactics that are used are constantly replicated. And without being
[04:05:32] able to build those connections, we're never actually going to be able to stop
[04:05:34] it. And if we're actually serious about world peace and like trying to resolve
[04:05:40] these conflicts, we have to learn about all these things in the context with
[04:05:44] which they exist versus pretending like these are isolated incidents. Yeah. So a
[04:05:50] A few weeks ago, you pulled off a shocking upset in a district where no Republicans once
[04:05:56] is 1970 D plus 29 the political machine assumed incumbent Diane to get was untouchable. I mean
[04:06:03] 1997. Yeah, I was six years old when she got into office.
[04:06:08] Instead, you crushed her at the Democratic Assembly took 67% of the delegate vote.
[04:06:17] And you forced her to barely script by with 33%. How did a 28 year old barista and a PhD student
[04:06:24] out organize a 30 year incumbent who has the entire Democratic establishment behind her? How did
[04:06:30] that happen? Yeah, it happened in like nine days. We actually almost didn't even go through the process.
[04:06:36] So Colorado has a mixed primary system where you can either collect signatures about 1500
[04:06:41] signatures of registered Democrats, or you can go through the caucus and assembly process.
[04:06:46] And the caucus and assembly process, as much as I love it, as somebody who, you know, just loves the democratic process in general, it is anti, it's inherently anti-democratic, right?
[04:06:58] It's something that it takes, that it's like three different days over the course of three different weeks.
[04:07:04] It takes up 12 to 18 different hours, depending on which levels you go to.
[04:07:09] If you have an hourly wage job, if you have kids, if you just have a life and don't want to spend all that time
[04:07:17] participating in the process, you end up finding that it's mostly older, wealthier, more retired, conservative voices
[04:07:25] that are there, which is why it's such an incubator for protecting a lot of these incumbents.
[04:07:30] So we weren't going to do it, but we were collecting signatures to get on the ballot and all these people were saying,
[04:07:34] I'm going to go caucus and I want to go caucus for you."
[04:07:38] And so we walked in and I think we, I would say we probably already had like 50% of the
[04:07:43] room.
[04:07:44] But we were at South High School, which is where she went to high school.
[04:07:49] And there were a lot of people in the room that were her former classmates, friends of
[04:07:52] hers that I'd spoken with.
[04:07:55] And I extended my respect for her service and how much she's done for our city, although
[04:08:04] I don't think it's nearly enough. And then when she came on, she like called me a liar for calling
[04:08:09] out the fact that she literally only takes corporate pack money almost. And that didn't
[04:08:15] resonate with a lot of people. Even classmates of hers were like, that was not cool of her. And so
[04:08:20] then I think that's what got us the extra bump there too. Wow. Yeah. Do you ever wonder what is
[04:08:28] the reason why people still hold on their firm, hold on to the firm grip of power after decades?
[04:08:35] Ego. Ego. Without question. I sincerely think most of these incumbents think no one could do this
[04:08:42] better than they could by virtue of the time that they spent there. Like the experience,
[04:08:49] the institutional knowledge of it is you can't give that up in order to be productive. And I'm
[04:08:56] I'm like, no, I actually think that's exactly why you're bad at your job now.
[04:09:00] Like that's the thing.
[04:09:01] Institutional rot that sets in after decades and decades of doing this,
[04:09:06] which is supposed to be the opposite, right?
[04:09:07] You're supposed to be a more experienced legislator.
[04:09:10] And yet, I think year over year, and this is something that I talked to other
[04:09:15] politicians about as well, that like when you spend a good deal of time in DC,
[04:09:22] you realize that you have to make strategic choices.
[04:09:27] And a lot of those strategic choices are actually concessions that you're making
[04:09:31] to corporate interests in general. And especially if you're, you know,
[04:09:35] somewhat lazy, I'm not saying that she is or was, but it's,
[04:09:41] the system is very turnkey.
[04:09:42] You have lobbies that come to your office and say, look,
[04:09:45] not only will we give money to your campaigns so your seat is safe all the
[04:09:49] time, but we will also write the legislation for you. You don't want to read through all
[04:09:55] the paperwork. Well, you're a lawyer. Do you like reading through the paperwork?
[04:09:59] I do. I do. No, I tell people that all the time. I say this has nothing to do with the
[04:10:04] Congresswoman as a person or her character. This is a systemic issue where we've created
[04:10:09] this campaign finance structure where you have two years and you have this broad legislative
[04:10:15] agenda. You're not going to get it done in two years. So your number one priority is to get
[04:10:18] reelected. The best way you're going to get reelected is by outspending your
[04:10:22] opponent. The fastest way to fundraise without taking your eyes off of your
[04:10:26] legislative agenda is to go to the corporations and the wealthiest donors,
[04:10:30] get it done, and then keep it pushing without keeping in mind the influence.
[04:10:35] Whether you see it or not consciously, it's there and it plays into your
[04:10:39] legislation. It plays into the relationships that you build while
[04:10:42] you're there and you slowly and slowly become more corrupted and embedded into
[04:10:45] this, like you said, institutional rock. So one of those big corporate donors for your
[04:10:51] opponent than to get is APAC. Although she openly, although she stopped openly taking
[04:10:57] APAC money in 2022, her number one career donor is a firm chaired by a former APAC vice
[04:11:04] president. She's refused to sign on to the Block the Bombs bill and she's voted in favor
[04:11:09] of Republican resolutions to continue supporting Israel's right to exist in its current form
[04:11:14] As an ethno-state, how do you believe your opponent accepting corporate PAC money influences
[04:11:18] your votes and how do you differ on your stance with respect to USA to Israel between you and Diane
[04:11:25] to get? Well, for one, I don't take corporate PAC money. I never will take corporate PAC money.
[04:11:31] And when it comes to A to Israel, Israel that exists today is an ethno-state that is engaging in
[04:11:37] occupation and apartheid of the Palestinian people. There is no justification for our taxpayer dollars
[04:11:45] supporting the ethnocracy that exists in Israel today. And until we see a secular truly democratic
[04:11:54] state, right, we hear them say they're the only democracy in the Middle East. And it's like,
[04:11:59] that's just not true. When you have it in your constitution, that the only group of people
[04:12:05] that have the right to self-determination are Israeli Jewish people, that's not a democracy.
[04:12:10] And so for our taxpayer dollars to be co-signing that is ridiculous.
[04:12:14] Yeah, it's supposed to be a cherished position amongst liberal internationalists like the
[04:12:20] humanitarian position and yet many liberals fall short of that. So let me ask you, do you believe
[04:12:27] the US should provide Israel with defensive weapons? No. A weapon is a weapon. That's interesting.
[04:12:35] It's good. I mean, I agree with it, but I feel like it's a quite the controversial position
[04:12:40] For some weird reason
[04:12:43] Okay, do you believe in
[04:12:46] Not only an arms embargo on Israel, which I I assume you're in agreement with an arms embargo you mentioned it
[04:12:52] Do you believe in also?
[04:12:54] Implementing some symbols of accountability measures against Israel for the war crimes that it's engaged in and for the genocide of the Palestinian people
[04:13:02] Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there are little warrants out right now for Netanyahu's arrest, right? Like, they're
[04:13:08] the only reason
[04:13:11] violence continues in the cycle that it often does is because there are rarely ever as accountability for the perpetrators of that violence and
[04:13:17] in order for there to be true resolution to
[04:13:21] What's happening right now? The people that perpetrated this have to be held accountable. Yeah
[04:13:26] By the way, some chatters are giving us open secrets, FEC filing information.
[04:13:32] Then it gets Q1, 2026 FEC filing shows $340,621 in total itemized contributions.
[04:13:41] Packs and committees account for $245,765 or 72.2% of all itemized money.
[04:13:49] Individuals on the other hand have contributed 27.8% at $94,000.
[04:13:54] thousand you have 100% of all of your your contribution coming from we have a
[04:14:01] couple of unions that have donated as well but yeah you're in the pocket of
[04:14:05] big unions you're saying yes you're meeting it right here in big unions we
[04:14:09] love labor okay and then another thing I don't know if it would count for the
[04:14:15] most recent filing but we know also that less than 4% of her donors are also
[04:14:19] or grassroots donors less than $200 yeah so it's mostly wealthier individuals
[04:14:24] that are donating to our company.
[04:14:25] The PAC money concentrates heavily in two sectors for your opponent, health care and
[04:14:29] pharma companies and health care professional associations. Combined, health care connected
[04:14:34] PACs account for 106,500, representing 43% of all PAC contributions and roughly a third
[04:14:39] of everything to get raised this quarter. Do you feel like that impacts our decision
[04:14:44] on issues such as Medicare for all?
[04:14:47] It's interesting, right? And I think this is the frustration that I get with people
[04:14:51] like to get where big cosplay is progressive. And so like she's a co-sponsor of it despite
[04:14:55] having doing zero to actually advance the legislation. But what she has advanced is the Cures Act.
[04:15:02] It's this bill that she's really, really proud of, which was a massive, massive giveaway
[04:15:08] to Big Pharma. Senator Warren, Senator Sanders, both called it out as, you know, this is just
[04:15:13] a payout to all of her donors. This does nothing for the consumers. And so, yeah.
[04:15:19] Um, let's see. Well, let's look at the gets only congressional endorsements. Wait, hold on.
[04:15:29] How am I going to find this? This is tough. This is insane. This is what is this? This is a
[04:15:34] vote hub.com 2026 endorsements. Um, a fan in the, in the stream, Andrew of episode one,
[04:15:41] no, to ride. He says, I'm a Colorado nurse who lives in Jefferson County and works in Aurora,
[04:15:45] but will she promise Denver County to get better food like Aurora has in parentheses most important?
[04:15:52] Aurora is
[04:15:55] Much more diverse than Denver is therefore it has so much really unique food
[04:16:00] Um, but that's something we can share we go back and forth between Denver and aurora and we get to enjoy the food
[04:16:04] But Denver has incredible incredible food. You're just not exploring it as much as you need to enter
[04:16:08] Surge is not working on the on this. Maybe I can do it here.
[04:16:24] Is it is that showing up? Oh, here it is. Oh, damn. Oh, that's not true.
[04:16:32] to get endorsements. It might be past endorsements. Is Diane to get a part of the Congressional
[04:16:40] Progressive Caucus?
[04:16:41] It is.
[04:16:42] Okay. But she refused to sign on to block the box.
[04:16:44] Yeah. In fact, she...
[04:16:45] It's very interesting.
[04:16:46] Yeah. She specifically called it... She's called it out. She's not a fan of the book.
[04:16:53] Okay. Are these... These might be old endorsements, potentially?
[04:16:59] Yeah.
[04:17:00] Because we know for a fact she hasn't been endorsed individually by any of these people,
[04:17:04] but she has gotten the Progressive Caucus endorsement.
[04:17:07] Oh, she did get the Progressive Caucus endorsement.
[04:17:09] This time around as well.
[04:17:10] This time around.
[04:17:11] Yeah.
[04:17:12] In spite of her reluctance to sign on to block the bombs.
[04:17:15] That's good.
[04:17:16] That's for me to remember when I have a conversation with Greg Kazar.
[04:17:19] Anyway, that's a, you know, that's a totally separate thing.
[04:17:24] So let's get back to your opponent.
[04:17:28] Yeah.
[04:17:29] The get came out against the war on Iran and the $1 billion per day price tag in a recent
[04:17:34] interview, you pointed out that she actually voted no on 10% Pentagon cuts in both 2020
[04:17:39] and 2021.
[04:17:40] Yeah.
[04:17:41] If we were to cut the Department of War budget by 10%, what's your vision to repurpose that
[04:17:44] money?
[04:17:45] Where does it go?
[04:17:46] I think it's got to go to Medicare for all.
[04:17:48] When we're talking about what are our values, what are our priorities, I think our budget
[04:17:53] is a reflection of our moral compass and what our priorities are for our society and healthcare
[04:17:58] has to be at the top of that, especially now as people are getting crushed by health care costs,
[04:18:03] by medical debt. And I mean, that on top of the fact that the Pentagon has failed literally every
[04:18:10] single audit that they've ever had for what, eight years now is ridiculous. And so, and mind you,
[04:18:17] 2020 and 2021, though, the, the cut was meant to go towards pandemic spending. And as somebody who
[04:18:26] calls herself the number one health care Democrat on the hill. It's ridiculous. We had an opportunity
[04:18:32] to do it then and to also actually make a difference in undercutting the military industrial complex
[04:18:38] that we have today. Your opponent is C. Regent Wanda James, who's a wealthy lead entrepreneur.
[04:18:47] The challengers, yeah. Yeah. She bypassed Graf's assembly process completely by gathering
[04:18:51] signatures, likely by paying signature gatherers. She managed campaigns for central governor Jared
[04:18:56] Polis served on Obama's finance committee and worked as an executive for multiple Fortune 100
[04:19:01] companies. Does her presence in this race come across like a deliberate attempt by the corporate
[04:19:06] wing of the party to provide a safe alternative to get specifically to fracture the vote and
[04:19:11] prevent an actual working class socialist from taking the seat? Or is her presence in the race
[04:19:15] actually good for you? Wanda is someone who I think, I think there are
[04:19:26] lot of Democrats right now that are trying to take advantage of the animosity a lot of people have
[04:19:31] for the party and the fact that a lot of people want change but isn't offering anything that is
[04:19:37] actually change other than a different face a fresh face whether or not she's doing it specifically
[04:19:43] you know i i think she wants to run because she wants to do good but we have very very very
[04:19:47] different theories of change um and yeah i don't know i don't know what what the intention is there
[04:19:55] Okay. Can't speak for her. Well over 100,000 people in Colorado's first congressional district
[04:20:00] work jobs that are prone to be automated away by company owners. Yeah. How should we protect
[04:20:06] working class Denverites from being entirely discarded by Silicon Valley in the next decade?
[04:20:11] And do you support data centers being built in Denver? No, I have, you know, Denver was one of
[04:20:17] the first cities to say that they wanted to put a moratorium out there. The mayor did recently,
[04:20:22] the city council is going to be voting on it soon. I think the moratorium on data centers
[04:20:29] is our leverage against a lot of these AI companies to force them to the table and finally get these
[04:20:37] regulations on the books, which are going to be necessary because of all of the threats that it
[04:20:42] poses, you know, existential, but obviously also including to the economy, to the automation of jobs.
[04:20:46] And so what do we find out that it's actually a display?
[04:20:50] It's a mechanism to displace the existing labor force. Yeah, and then more people get frustrated with AI
[04:20:56] What then what then yeah, I mean look I might my I do not care about Sam Altman salary
[04:21:04] Why are you putting people in Denver ahead of the needs of Sam Altman and and Palantir
[04:21:11] Palmer lucky and numerous other wonderful perhaps the most productive Americans the ones who
[04:21:16] who feel like they're actually the ones that are coming in to save us.
[04:21:19] Why do you have success? That's what I should ask.
[04:21:21] That's what it is. That's what it is. Look, at the end of the day, AI is going to be a technology.
[04:21:26] Like, it's literally as we speak, finding proteins to create cures to diseases that we literally
[04:21:33] would not be able to do without our own computational ability. That being said, it's a tool,
[04:21:39] but it's a tool that can be used just like any other tool for good or for evil. And Sam Altman
[04:21:43] and Peter Thiel and all of these other jackasses, to be fair.
[04:21:49] I don't trust them.
[04:21:50] I don't trust their motivations.
[04:21:51] I don't trust what they would want to use this technology for, and I think it does have
[04:21:55] everything to do with replacing the workforce and replacing human labor, as we have it today.
[04:22:02] And I think the only solution to that is guaranteeing basic needs, like housing, healthcare, nutrition,
[04:22:08] food, public education, transportation, access to internet.
[04:22:11] All of these things should be guaranteed regardless of where you live, what family you're born
[04:22:16] into, what wealth you're born into, all those things should be guaranteed and that's going
[04:22:20] to be the only way we can protect working people from this new technology.
[04:22:24] So you're in favor of having utilized for boring things like biochemical research and
[04:22:31] not cool things like AI art?
[04:22:35] AI art.
[04:22:36] We love AI art so much.
[04:22:39] Yeah, no.
[04:22:40] Okay.
[04:22:41] fully. The other thing that we need to be doing with AI is making sure that, you know,
[04:22:45] artists and people, I mean, AI only exists because it's learning from our ingenuity,
[04:22:50] our creations this entire time. And yet no one is getting paid back for all that labor that
[04:22:56] created everything that's learning from in the first place. So there has to be some kind of
[04:22:59] mechanism to make sure folks are being compensated for their contribution to these learning models.
[04:23:04] What about AI being used as a mechanism to advance surveillance?
[04:23:10] Yeah, that's one of my big surveillance and then war also, right? Like there was some reporting that
[04:23:15] indicated that the bombing of that school in Iran could have been because of some kind of
[04:23:20] discrepancy with AI and there is too much at stake when it comes to our privacy, when it comes to
[04:23:30] just world relations in general and foreign policy that we cannot allow this technology
[04:23:37] to continue until we also sit down. I don't know how Bernie described it earlier in the week,
[04:23:42] but just slow down for a second and let's figure this out because we don't even know how this
[04:23:47] technology works. The people running it don't even know how it works and there's just too much
[04:23:52] at risk for us to not figure this out first. Also, hopefully we can put a moratorium on people
[04:23:57] using chat GPT because I personally hate the way chat GPT speaks. How does it speak? With the M-dash
[04:24:03] and the constant juxtaposition.
[04:24:05] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[04:24:06] Or is that we like...
[04:24:07] Starts with the negative and do the positive.
[04:24:08] You're not just brilliant, but you're exceptional.
[04:24:11] I hate that.
[04:24:12] I hate the way that AI speaks.
[04:24:14] But I do feel like it's interesting
[04:24:16] because we're all starting to catch it.
[04:24:17] Yes, people are doing it.
[04:24:19] No.
[04:24:19] Now, normies are talking like that.
[04:24:22] And I don't know if it's like AI psychosis.
[04:24:24] I don't know what's going on, but I just,
[04:24:26] I've become a Luddite.
[04:24:27] I don't know.
[04:24:28] Maybe I'm a boomer.
[04:24:28] Well, you're young, younger than I am.
[04:24:31] So if you also share the same resentment, then I feel a little bit maybe we'll be okay. Yeah, we'll be okay
[04:24:36] Okay, over a third of Denver residents are paying more than 30% of their income just to keep a roof over their heads
[04:24:42] Well developers and corporate landlords rake and record profits the state legislature is trying to pass zoning reforms like the home act
[04:24:50] But you've advocated for massive federal housing first initiatives
[04:24:54] What specific well first what are those initiatives and also what specific federal levels?
[04:24:59] levers can a member of Congress pull to decommodify the housing market and crush
[04:25:03] the parasitic corporate real estate speculation that is choking working families.
[04:25:08] Yeah. Well, so a lot of working families, I would say, there are a lot of folks that are
[04:25:12] paying upwards of like 50% of their income to be able to afford their housing right now. And
[04:25:18] 30% is where it's supposed to be safe. And the only way that we can get there is by
[04:25:24] completely reimagining our housing structure. And so part of my PhD program, some of my research
[04:25:29] was specifically focused on looking at different models of how housing operates in different
[04:25:33] countries and housing first, which ironically actually started in New York City, is the most
[04:25:39] successful way to actually eradicate homelessness in the way that we understand it here in America.
[04:25:45] Finland was literally able to eradicate homelessness because of the way that they run
[04:25:49] housing first and that has three separate ways. We're in California, when you say that, we think
[04:25:53] of Gavin Newsom literally physically eradicating the homeless. And so in Denver, I know,
[04:25:59] No, they put homeless people in homes.
[04:26:02] Yes.
[04:26:03] Okay.
[04:26:04] Denver also has a housing first program that isn't actually part, that uses the actual
[04:26:10] pillars of housing first.
[04:26:11] And so I do want to speak specifically to what those initiatives are.
[04:26:15] And the first thing is that, just like you said, it's just you give people homes, right?
[04:26:19] We have this staircase model largely across the country where you have to get a job first
[04:26:23] or you have to pass a drug test first or you have to pass this mental health test first
[04:26:26] or whatever the case is, before you can get stable and supportive housing.
[04:26:31] And that's just not how it works, right?
[04:26:33] Pragmatically speaking, biologically speaking, housing and shelter is a basic
[04:26:37] need for which you can build everything else on top of.
[04:26:40] And so that has to be the first pillar.
[04:26:42] The second pillar is that we just have a deficit in affordable housing period.
[04:26:46] We just need to build more affordable housing.
[04:26:49] And there are a lot of folks that, you know, the abundance bros and all those
[04:26:53] conversations. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. And I tell and I say this about
[04:27:00] everything, right? There's never a perspective. Your state is led by an abundance bro. Yeah,
[04:27:04] don't get me started on Polis. Please don't get me started on Polis. Do you think it should
[04:27:08] be illegal for a governor to also be a Redditor? And why is the answer yes? I didn't know he
[04:27:15] was a Redditor, but that doesn't surprise me. I knew he was online. I knew he was chronically
[04:27:18] online. You know, Ted Polis was a Redditor. I didn't know he was a Redditor. I try not
[04:27:22] to pay as much attention to him anymore. He sounds like he just is the perfect embodiment
[04:27:27] of a Redditor in real life. Okay, well, no. The more you know. I did not know he was Redditor.
[04:27:32] I think it should be illegal. Would you be in support of... Please don't get me on the books
[04:27:37] banning people from Reddit for money. Do you think that Jared Polis as the moderator on
[04:27:43] r slash neoliberalism, a subreddit that I think... He's an actual moderator? Yes. That I think
[04:27:50] should be made illegal, would you be in support of banning Jared Polis' reddit account?
[04:27:56] If you were to get, if you were to get to Congress. Oh my god. By the time I get to
[04:28:00] Congress, he'll be out. So I'm going to, I'm going to take that divine timing there. What was it?
[04:28:05] He also, he also was like, I really like RFK Jr. Yes. Yes. No, that was insane. It was out of
[04:28:13] nowhere. It was a random tweet and he was just like, I actually think he's got some good ideas.
[04:28:18] I think it'll be fine and then everyone descended on him and he like came back with some kind
[04:28:22] of explanation, but it was ludicrous.
[04:28:24] That's what he does.
[04:28:25] Why is he like that?
[04:28:26] I don't know.
[04:28:27] I think he's a reactionary sometimes, but it's an interest.
[04:28:29] I mean, he's a centimillionaire.
[04:28:31] He has vetoed multiple times the Worker Protection Act because Colorado is one of the few states
[04:28:36] that requires a second vote in order to be able to unionize and he's vetoed that multiple
[04:28:41] times.
[04:28:42] a bill that would have banned rigging prices algorithmically for rent. He's just not, he's
[04:28:50] not a very friendly guy for labor. Is this his reddit?
[04:28:54] Yeah. Yeah. So I don't, I don't think he, he mods r slash neoliberal any longer.
[04:29:01] Okay.
[04:29:02] But he used to be, yes.
[04:29:04] It sounds like someone else beat you to the punch and getting him banned from going.
[04:29:08] Yeah, no, see, you could have just taken ownership of that.
[04:29:11] Yeah, he's no longer a modded r slash neoliberal, which is unfortunate.
[04:29:15] Anyway, okay, yeah, what's up with Jared Polis?
[04:29:20] I don't understand.
[04:29:21] I mean, he's-
[04:29:22] He's a libertarian.
[04:29:23] He's an interesting figure, though, on the one hand, because he's a libertarian, he's
[04:29:27] like, he also is like very pro-immigration and like Colorado has become like this safe
[04:29:34] haven in some respects as well, right?
[04:29:37] some interesting initiatives that are being utilized in Denver, uh, as far as really really,
[04:29:43] really, really strong. I would say when it comes to, you know, welcoming immigrants and,
[04:29:47] um, making sure it's a sanctuary city, Jared Polis unironically responds in r slash Denver
[04:29:52] circle jerk. That's incredible. Oh my gosh. He has a chronically on online. There's a local podcast
[04:30:03] that I had an episode talking about his online history. I mean, it goes back.
[04:30:07] Why do you think his posts keep getting banned by moderators?
[04:30:12] I'm seeing a lot of posts where he's just like,
[04:30:15] oh, there it is, r slash neoliberal, one of the biggest self-inflicted ones in American history
[04:30:19] is nearly upon us, tariffs. Most people, I mean, I don't even disagree, although I am in favor
[04:30:25] of trade protectionism when there is trade to be protected. I think the tariffs that Trump was
[04:30:31] Implementing were disastrous. I do think it's really funny that this is probably the thing that he is the most concerned with though
[04:30:38] Because this is like ideologically a nightmare for for guys like Jared Polo 100%
[04:30:44] Okay, stop stalking reddit brush shouldn't explain housing models. I know
[04:30:50] Yeah
[04:30:52] Okay, yeah, let's talk about housing because housing is I think housing is my number one
[04:30:57] because it's the foundation for literally everything.
[04:31:01] Let's talk more about housing. So I do feel like a lot of people, even like the most progressive
[04:31:07] congresspersons in general, I think fall short of what's necessary, what needs to be done when it
[04:31:12] comes to housing in this country. Are you in favor of moving towards a model where we don't see
[04:31:19] housing as a speculative asset, but more so just shelter to live in? And I think the only way we
[04:31:24] do that is with massive, massive federal investment.
[04:31:28] You're going to give Jared Poles the aneurysm, what's that take?
[04:31:31] Jared Poles will be out of office by the time we win the election.
[04:31:34] He probably, he's going to write a lot of posts on our side.
[04:31:37] 100% he will. But at the end of the day, the fact of the matter is the data's on our side,
[04:31:42] which is that the most effective way to address the housing problem is to just give people housing
[04:31:48] and to make sure that we are requiring a steady supply of affordable housing for every single
[04:31:55] locale, which I think is at the very least 30% of housing while also still providing social
[04:32:00] housing to anybody who needs it. And that just requires a lot of federal investment. The thing
[04:32:04] about housing is that it's one of the only things we've not gotten more productive at building in
[04:32:09] like the last six decades or so. And when you're not getting better at building it or faster at
[04:32:16] building it, but the costs continue to rise for the stuff, the materials, the labor.
[04:32:23] That's where you're starting to see it becoming even more expensive outside of just the fact that
[04:32:26] we do use housing as an investment vehicle as well. And so removing all of the things that allow
[04:32:32] that to be a commodity rather than a basic need as it should be is going to be a part of that.
[04:32:38] And again, it's just going to be massive federal investment. And that is, I think that's the
[04:32:42] the responsibility of government. Okay. Moving away from housing, let's talk about
[04:32:48] another issue that's impacted Denver, Colorado, but all around the country, ICE.
[04:32:55] Yeah. ICE is a violent paramilitary force since ripping families apart, shipping detainees
[04:33:00] to faraway lands like Seacot and also Congo as well. Your father came to this country
[04:33:07] through the diversity visa lottery, which Trump has tried to gut.
[04:33:10] He has got it. Yeah, and has got it and brought you here as an infant in 1998. What's your vision for
[04:33:16] abolishing ICE? Yeah, I mean, it's just that we abolish ICE. This is an agency that
[04:33:23] started in what like 2003, like this is we had immigration enforcement before ICE existed,
[04:33:27] we'll have it after it exists. But the thing that I don't think we talk enough about is also what
[04:33:32] that reform is going to look like. Abolishing ICE is just one step, right? Democrats have been in power
[04:33:37] multiple times over the last few decades and did nothing to address the immigration reform that we actually need.
[04:33:42] Increased despise expenditures, increased spending guys.
[04:33:44] Exactly, yeah. And so if we're, I think there has to be an immediate pathway for every single undocumented immigrant that's here in this country today that does not require them to shell out
[04:33:53] thousands of dollars to go through the process for it to take decades at a time to be able to get to citizenship, an immediate pathway to citizenship, and then just reallocating those resources where they need to be, right?
[04:34:05] whether that's more immigration judges, whether that's more people that can go through the case
[04:34:08] loads, it's not nearly as efficient as it should be. And we're just creating the conditions for
[04:34:14] the problems that we're seeing right now that they're trying to solve with ICE. This is a
[04:34:18] resource issue at the end of the day and also a values issue. Like what kind of a country do we
[04:34:23] want to be? I want to be the kind of country where my dad was really proud and excited to
[04:34:27] immigrate to this country to be able to build a new life.
[04:34:29] Yeah. Do you also support Denver resident? Well, do you support, I mean, I already said it for
[04:34:37] both Israel and someone said it for ICE as well, but do you support not just abolishing ICE, but
[04:34:42] also holding members of the administration and its loyal soldiers accountable for crimes that they
[04:34:50] may have committed while working for ICE? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I, taking back the house
[04:34:57] might be a little bit harder as of recent events, but I still think it's doable and,
[04:35:01] you know, hopefully taking the Senate, although that's even going to be harder. But
[04:35:06] that has to be our number one concern is making sure that we're holding all of these administration
[04:35:11] officials accountable. And especially with ICE, prosecuting every single agent that
[04:35:16] infringed on people's rights that killed literal Americans. Like, it's absolutely ridiculous
[04:35:23] that we're allowing this to happen in the first place. And when we take that power, that has to
[04:35:25] be our number one priority. What's your vision for America's role in the world? Let's talk foreign
[04:35:32] policy a little bit. How would you define American leadership in the modern day and
[04:35:36] what principles would guide your foreign policy decisions? And would you do a nuclear first
[04:35:42] strike on Iran? Jesus. No, let's start there. I think, you know, there's a question that Tim
[04:35:52] can waltz answer in the uh... then the vice-presidential the base
[04:35:55] i just i had to i had to hit a a mainstream media
[04:35:59] uh... take okay
[04:36:00] fair enough you got that
[04:36:02] uh...
[04:36:03] no i i think going back to immigration even you know i uh... america has been
[04:36:07] such a destabilizing force
[04:36:09] and for so long that we've created conditions
[04:36:13] in other countries that have
[04:36:15] create that have made the crisis that we see in immigration today as well
[04:36:19] When I think about our role, so many people
[04:36:23] want America to be like the world's police,
[04:36:26] that want to be the one that's in charge of doing it.
[04:36:29] That's ridiculous to me.
[04:36:31] And especially when we talk about how our climate crisis,
[04:36:35] all of the endless wars that we've been dragged into,
[04:36:38] all of them coming from this neoliberal perspective
[04:36:41] that I don't believe in, I really don't.
[04:36:44] And then when I think about what is going to be required,
[04:36:46] not only for us to address climate change,
[04:36:49] for us to address, you know, the global economy and our role in being such an extractive and
[04:36:54] exploitative player, I think is going to require more diplomacy, more cooperation, and less
[04:37:05] of the exploitative, I think, tactics we've been using as of late.
[04:37:10] What do you think about China?
[04:37:14] your stance on America's current economic warfare with China? Do you feel like this
[04:37:19] is productive? Do you feel like we should be fighting harder against China? A country
[04:37:24] responsible for 30% of all of our trade?
[04:37:27] I will always lead with diplomacy first. I will always lead with cooperation first. The
[04:37:34] fact of the matter is, everything is viewed from this lens of combativeness. And as if
[04:37:41] we are not literally all in this global economy together and have to figure out ways to be
[04:37:46] able to participate and collaborate and cooperate in meaningful ways for the good of everybody.
[04:37:52] That's not everybody's first instinct, I think, and especially when we've created all
[04:37:57] of these systems that benefit from this combative relationship, obviously, there's a big problems
[04:38:05] that are going to take big solutions.
[04:38:07] So no nuclear first strike on China, either.
[04:38:10] Fuck the nukes.
[04:38:11] I'm just I'm a little bit confused because you know that's uh, that's the norm. It's usually what I hear from Democrats is like
[04:38:18] It's almost got to get nuked. You know, we have all these nuclear arms. Like why can't we use them?
[04:38:23] Did you see that movie on Netflix?
[04:38:27] It was a movie recently that talked about what it would look like if there was a nuclear strike
[04:38:31] I think on like Chicago and like the whole point of it was to say
[04:38:34] way, this is actually kind of psychotic that we are living in these conditions where at
[04:38:40] any minute we could go into some kind of nuclear war and apocalypse and yeah, so no.
[04:38:47] See that you're not a fan of the Fallout series.
[04:38:49] I haven't seen that.
[04:38:50] I've gotten told to watch it.
[04:38:51] Also the video game that came before it, which shows very cool perspective of what
[04:38:57] would look like, what it would look like if nukes did drop.
[04:39:01] Also, that was against China, so I'm just saying, you think it's bad, but what if you
[04:39:08] could have like a Fallout universe style situation?
[04:39:12] That might be maybe worth the trade off, but I don't know.
[04:39:15] Okay.
[04:39:16] All right.
[04:39:17] Good to know.
[04:39:18] In 2024, the IMF effectively devalued Ethiopia's currency by 30%.
[04:39:24] It liberalized the foreign exchange market.
[04:39:26] Here, I'm going to pull it up right here.
[04:39:35] Doesn't look too good.
[04:39:36] It liberalized the foreign exchange market, opened the banking and telecom sectors to
[04:39:40] foreign capital, removed fuel subsidies, and pursued privatization of state-owned enterprise
[04:39:45] like Ethio, Telecom, and Ethio Open Airlines, although the airline privatization ended up
[04:39:50] being suspended.
[04:39:51] As someone born in Ethiopia, what role do you believe the IMF should play in the development
[04:39:56] of African nations. If any, do you believe the US should reverse austerity policies implanted
[04:40:01] by the IMF into developing nations economies? I'm target, so I have a lot of experience
[04:40:06] with this as well.
[04:40:07] Yeah. I was there for like 11 months, so unfortunately I don't remember very much about being in
[04:40:13] the country, but when it comes to austerity measures, and I think specifically when I
[04:40:18] think about global economic policy, so much of it, like I was saying earlier, is extractive
[04:40:25] and exploitative. And then when we are inserting a lot of these ideologies that lead to the
[04:40:30] privatization of a lot of these industries in a way that obviously is coming from our
[04:40:35] own influence, I'm not in favor of it. That being said, at the end of the day, I'm in
[04:40:42] favor of self-determination. I'm in favor of democratic principles. And I think we have
[04:40:50] played far too much of a role in kind of influencing a lot of these policies that we are seeing
[04:40:55] in countries that we are engaging with, in a way that's irresponsible.
[04:40:58] Okay. Now we're going to do the speed round. Two things I always ask candidates is the
[04:41:09] Zoram method. Zoram famously came out with five key policies, like five main policy
[04:41:17] proposals that he wanted to be defined by, and it was very successful for his candidacy.
[04:41:24] What are your five main policy proposals?
[04:41:27] Medicare for all, housing first, universal child care, abolishing ICE, and more than
[04:41:33] anything, the thing that I'm the most focused on is publicly financed elections.
[04:41:37] Okay.
[04:41:38] Wow.
[04:41:39] That's cool.
[04:41:40] All right.
[04:41:41] Now we're going to do rapid fire.
[04:41:42] Okay.
[04:41:43] Do you support Medicare for all?
[04:41:45] Yes.
[04:41:46] Do you support universal child care?
[04:41:47] Yes.
[04:41:48] And elder care.
[04:41:49] And elder care?
[04:41:50] Mm-hmm.
[04:41:51] Okay.
[04:41:52] I'm not in favor of giving boomers anything, but that's fine. You know, that's the difference between you and I, I guess
[04:42:01] The abolition of ice. Yes, the Green New Deal. Yes national rent control. Yes
[04:42:08] Interesting ending the embargo on Cuba. Yes, ending the embargo on our ending the war in Iran
[04:42:14] Yes, ending aid to Israel. Yes sanctioning Israel. Yes a free Palestine. Yes. All right. Well, thank you
[04:42:22] was, this was, uh, this was great. Yeah. And, uh, what are some of the, what are some of
[04:42:28] the, the biggest hurdles that you have to climb right now? What do you, what do you
[04:42:32] want from, uh, what do you want from this community at least?
[04:42:35] So I think the thing that I've really tried to get across for a lot of voters this cycle,
[04:42:40] not just in my district, but like in districts across the country where we're seeing so many
[04:42:43] challenges that are coming forward is that there's a reason why all of this money gets
[04:42:49] spent in these campaigns, right? They are buying up advertisements on TV, on digital socials,
[04:42:56] whatever, because name ID is what gets most people elected in a lot of these races. And
[04:43:02] if we want to see Democrats that are not constantly rolling over, that are not constantly failing
[04:43:08] on advancing a progressive agenda, we have to elect Democrats that are not bought and
[04:43:14] paid for by a lot of these corporations and billionaires that are perfectly happy to keep
[04:43:18] things exactly as they are, because there's so much money for them to be made as things
[04:43:22] exist today.
[04:43:24] And like I was saying earlier, they're in a system right now where it's so much easier
[04:43:30] for them to go to these billionaires and these corporations to fundraise.
[04:43:34] That's not the way that I want to do this.
[04:43:35] I'm running because I, not just because I think that we need to pass Medicare for all
[04:43:40] or housing first, but because I think these are basic human rights.
[04:43:44] The only way we can do that is by not being in bed with these corporations, but to win,
[04:43:49] we still need money, right?
[04:43:51] We need to pay for the ads.
[04:43:53] We need to pay for the mailers.
[04:43:54] We need to pay our staff a living wage.
[04:43:57] And so the thing that I tell folks is that until we can get to publicly-financed elections,
[04:44:03] where we can do all kinds of things, like shorten the length of campaigns, where we can
[04:44:08] create ballot access measures where you just get signatures and everybody gets a certain
[04:44:13] amount of money, and then it's really just about an actual battle of policies and ideas instead of
[04:44:17] who knows the most rich people. Until we can get there, we have to get, we have to fundamentally
[04:44:23] change the balance of power in Congress. And that's why I'm so proud to be standing alongside people
[04:44:29] like Schweikart, to be standing alongside people like Daria Lisa and Angie that are running on the
[04:44:34] exact same values. And once we can do that, then we can finally get something like publicly financed
[04:44:39] selections. Because at the end of the day, there are a lot of people now that I think are
[04:44:43] for Medicare for all, for universal child care. And it doesn't matter until we get that money and
[04:44:48] that influence out, because we're never going to have the votes that we need to get this done.
[04:44:52] And so support the candidates that you believe in, right? I think a lot of people use their vote as
[04:44:58] like gaming the system, like I'll vote for whoever I think can win, vote for your values.
[04:45:03] And then if you can donate to those people, right, the fact that AOC is outreasing
[04:45:08] literally every single Democrat in the country right now with an average donation of $14.
[04:45:14] That's the power of small dollar fundraising.
[04:45:17] And when you hear ideas and policies that align with their values, even $1 makes such
[04:45:23] a massive difference when you have hundreds of people coming together to do that at the
[04:45:27] same time.
[04:45:29] So that's the pitch.
[04:45:31] That's the ask to donate to the campaign.
[04:45:35] To me, obviously that would be really helpful, but also to candidates in your own district.
[04:45:38] If you know that there's a challenger that's running against a do nothing decade long incumbent.
[04:45:43] No, this is just about you right now.
[04:45:45] We're trying to get you to...
[04:45:48] We're trying to fundraise for you right now.
[04:45:49] Okay, okay.
[04:45:50] Don't worry about the other districts.
[04:45:52] Donate to our campaign.
[04:45:54] It really would be...
[04:45:56] It's the thing that's going to make a difference in this race.
[04:45:58] We see the polling.
[04:45:59] We know people are in favor of these policies.
[04:46:00] They care about these issues that we care about, but we need to get the word out for
[04:46:04] So and then also obviously if you can if you have time phone bank for us text bank for us
[04:46:10] We got over 500 volunteers that are doing that
[04:46:12] And and we're so grateful to have them and we'd love to have some more folks joining us, too
[04:46:17] Okay, and your district is a is a very young district as well
[04:46:22] I feel like there's a there's a big advantage there
[04:46:25] Within the the student movement as well. What are some of the endorsements that you've gotten? Yeah, so I'm justice Democrats sunrise Denver DSA
[04:46:34] We got the CWA unions endorsement. We have pro-animal future. We have the Working Families
[04:46:42] Party. We've really taken up the lane of all the progressive endorsements in this race,
[04:46:47] and I'm really, really proud to be standing in this coalition with all of them.
[04:46:51] Okay. Now we're going to watch Representative DeGette get in a heated conversation with
[04:46:56] the Constitution.
[04:46:57] I'm going to mentally not agree with me on this because you think that Palestinian
[04:47:03] citizens are going to make a very much difference.
[04:47:06] No, ma'am, that's not it.
[04:47:12] Yes, I did regard it.
[04:47:14] Here I am.
[04:47:15] Hi Diana, I'm the full shade.
[04:47:17] That was crazy.
[04:47:19] She was chasing after her.
[04:47:21] I'm a delegate in Denver.
[04:47:23] I'm in five points.
[04:47:25] I really think that I'm myself of like women's rights activists.
[04:47:28] I appreciate the work you've done.
[04:47:30] I'm just wondering why do you keep sending money for bombs
[04:47:33] that Israel is sending to Palestine?
[04:47:36] So, OK.
[04:47:38] So actually most people think that Israel
[04:47:42] should be able to defend itself with the iron dog.
[04:47:45] And that's what I'm talking about.
[04:47:47] But so, so.
[04:47:48] Defending themselves is different than continuing
[04:47:51] the genocide in Palestine.
[04:47:53] You're talking about different subjects.
[04:47:54] And I'm trying to ask you about the, which by the way, in my opinion, the idea that, uh, the way that people talk about Israel as a right to defend itself is like, uh, is a, uh, insincere way.
[04:48:07] This is my opinion, an insincere way of justifying continued, uh, uh, like the continued arms sales to Israel.
[04:48:14] Uh, when what Israel deserves right now is an arms embargo, because it's done a genocide.
[04:48:20] And even before Israel had done a genocide, it was still in apartheid state, at which
[04:48:24] point an arms embargo was still perfectly valid to justify.
[04:48:29] We don't ever have a conversation about like whether Russia has a right to defend itself.
[04:48:34] We would never, it would be laughable to, to expect a bill in Congress to send Russia,
[04:48:40] you know, defensive weapons as it's waging an offensive war in Ukraine and unjustifiable
[04:48:45] war in Ukraine.
[04:48:47] So the notion that Israel still gets to go through the memorandum of understanding and
[04:48:54] continue getting arms sales, like defensive weapons that we know are not only fungible,
[04:49:00] but also used to engage in increasingly belligerent acts against all of its other neighbors, like
[04:49:07] Lebanon right now, as Israel is currently occupying Lebanon, a piece of Syrian territory Israel
[04:49:11] currently occupies, additional territory that Israel has started to occupy in Syria, all
[04:49:16] All of this is done because the United States of America offers political cover and also
[04:49:20] direct military arms sales to Israel so that it can engage in these belligerent and unjustifiable
[04:49:28] war crimes.
[04:49:29] Yeah.
[04:49:30] Block the bombs.
[04:49:31] Okay.
[04:49:32] But this is not even about that.
[04:49:33] This is Block the Bombs, which is supposed to be bulldozers and 1,000-pound bombs.
[04:49:38] I believe they were supposed to be sent to Israel.
[04:49:41] I'll tell you about the Block the Bombs Act. I read the Block the Bombs Act. The Block
[04:49:46] the Bombs Act is a very poorly written piece of legislation because it's both narrow and
[04:49:52] it's too broad.
[04:49:53] Can I ever say, actually, there have been two other Congress members, I'm forgetting their
[04:49:58] name, that used the exact same language to say it was too broad and too narrow, which
[04:50:05] suggests one, she probably didn't even actually read the bill, and that these are just talking
[04:50:09] points against the Block the Bombs Act, which is actually very, very popular in Denver.
[04:50:14] And again, we're seeing people like the get who are being really strategic about hiding
[04:50:20] where a lot of this influence is actually coming from.
[04:50:22] I mean, this is, this is what happens like, I don't even think that this is like a, I
[04:50:28] don't know what's in her heart, right?
[04:50:30] I don't think these Congresspersons are like evil people, even if they end up signing off
[04:50:34] on like evil measures that harm people, right? That hurt a lot of people. But I think that,
[04:50:42] and the reason why I use Israel as a litmus test, is because it's like perfectly representative of
[04:50:48] becoming a calcified institutionalist that just simply hears talking points from lobbyists or
[04:50:56] talking points from their aides and then just repeats it without even ever considering what the
[04:51:03] impact of that might be no ideological conviction whatsoever. And after, you know, multiple
[04:51:08] decades in office, having no real investment in defending the interests of their constituents.
[04:51:15] And I think that's a major problem. And this is why it's like perfectly demonstrative of
[04:51:21] the way that a lot of Congressional representatives become a product of these corporate influences
[04:51:32] and even the influence of foreign lobbies.
[04:51:34] Yeah. No, I completely agree. Again, I don't, I have, you know, Diana DeGette was a real
[04:51:42] champion for reproductive justice, for environmental justice. I think she, you know, I have no people
[04:51:47] who know her. I think she's a good person. But again, when you're talking about these
[04:51:51] issues that there clearly is no actual conviction that they have themselves for what they think
[04:51:55] should be happening, like she says, I believe that everybody there has the right to dignity
[04:52:01] into safety into life and to not have that introspection to examine what her policies
[04:52:07] and her votes have done to lead to the continued destruction and death that we're seeing in
[04:52:12] Palestine is where I think a lot of Denverites get incredibly frustrated.
[04:52:16] Yeah. I think this is a major problem with politicians in general, like with the Democratic
[04:52:20] Party currently. And that's precisely what like at least I hear from a lot of voters
[04:52:24] all around the country is like they have no conviction. They have no backbone. They're
[04:52:28] They don't want to fight against the Republicans.
[04:52:30] I mean, it was Ta-Nehisi Coase who said it perfectly, he said, like, how can you expect
[04:52:34] a party that won't stop a genocide to actually defend democracy?
[04:52:38] And we're seeing that.
[04:52:39] We've seen that for the last two years.
[04:52:41] So I think that that change is a must, it's a necessity to preserve what remains of American
[04:52:47] theoretical democracy to begin with.
[04:52:50] Well, like I said, thank you so much for coming.
[04:52:52] I'm going to give you guys some additional information here real quick.
[04:52:59] The voter registration deadline in person is June 30th, 2026.
[04:53:04] By mail is postmarked by June 22nd, 2026.
[04:53:08] For online voter registration deadline is June 22nd, 2026 as well.
[04:53:14] You can engage in FST mail-in voting available to all voters, at least for the time being
[04:53:19] until Donald Trump abolishes that unless we get an 8-0.
[04:53:27] The absentee mail and ballot return deadline in person is June 30, 2026 by mail received
[04:53:31] by June 30, 2026.
[04:53:33] Early voting is available to all voters and the early voting start and end dates are June
[04:53:39] 22, 2026 to June 30, 2026 and polls are open on election day from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. mountain
[04:53:47] time.
[04:53:48] We have gifts for you. You have gifts for me.
[04:53:49] OK. What? Wow.
[04:53:53] Oh, hell, yeah.
[04:53:54] Denver, Democrats, I'm collecting these hats.
[04:53:57] We got, I mean, I don't know.
[04:53:59] We have so many people at Denver, DSA that love watching your stream
[04:54:03] and like picked out these shirts for you and got you that custom hat.
[04:54:06] So we got some. Oh, it's a custom hat.
[04:54:08] You can't. You can't even get this.
[04:54:10] Chad, no, no, no, no.
[04:54:12] So some t-shirts. That's crazy.
[04:54:14] This is our mascot.
[04:54:16] This is the Denver, DSA mascot.
[04:54:17] It's a pika, so obviously we named it Hassan pika.
[04:54:21] Oh, my God.
[04:54:24] This is so cute.
[04:54:26] It's native to the Rocky Mountains,
[04:54:28] and it collects flowers and obviously the rose.
[04:54:33] So, yeah, no way.
[04:54:36] Oh, you will maybe get some more t-shirts and stuff
[04:54:39] if you come out to Denver. OK. Yeah.
[04:54:41] Yeah. Come and join us.
[04:54:42] It's the 12th largest chapter in the country.
[04:54:46] Wow, you know
[04:54:49] Bernie and AOC brought out like 30 something thousand people that were out there like
[04:54:54] Denver, I think I can do that
[04:54:56] Well, maybe maybe not 30,000
[04:54:58] But I think you know, it's a bastion of really progressive socialist values that
[04:55:04] Would be really cool to do something out there. Yeah. Yeah, no, absolutely. I'm down for sure
[04:55:11] I mean if you guys have any events that you are organizing around like
[04:55:15] college campuses or anything like that. I could definitely pull up on something like that.
[04:55:20] You're gonna get a lot of people are gonna yell at you. I'm a big meanie. I'm very vulgar and
[04:55:27] just bad in general. A pottymouth is what I'm gonna hear. But no, it's gonna be really cool.
[04:55:34] So come out and join us. Thank you so much for having us. No, this was great. Thank you for the
[04:55:39] chips. Of course. Appreciate it. Thank you.
[04:55:44] I stopped barking. All right. Yeah, Milak Milak heroes,
[04:55:49] everybody. All right, I'm gonna take a quick photo. And then
[04:55:57] we are gonna we're gonna continue what we were talking
[04:56:00] about, which I forgot what we were talking about beforehand.
[04:56:03] But here's AOC talking about a rig system and how to fix it.
[04:56:12] Okay?
[04:56:14] System is rigged.
[04:56:18] Let's talk about it.
[04:56:19] So the system is rigged for the ultra-wealthy and you, you know, Bernie Sanders, I think,
[04:56:25] was the first to puncture through with this messaging to the mainstream to mainstream
[04:56:30] America, and you're really his successor. You speak in such clear and simple language,
[04:56:36] so obviously spontaneous, genuine from your lived experience, which is so different. I
[04:56:42] mean, you know, I'm laughing, but it's honestly terrifying how most, I would say the majority
[04:56:48] of elected officials do not reflect the lived experience of their constituents. When did
[04:56:53] this come into your consciousness, this system being rigged for the ultra-wealthy?
[04:56:58] Well, first I want to say, in a lot of ways,
[04:57:02] we're all kind of Bernie's successor.
[04:57:05] I think that this class consciousness
[04:57:09] that young people have today has been a big part of Bernie's
[04:57:17] life.
[04:57:18] And so I say that because I know that that is also
[04:57:21] what he would say, and it's what he wants.
[04:57:25] But also, in terms of the class piece,
[04:57:31] to your point, a lot of it just had to do
[04:57:34] with the experiences of my life,
[04:57:35] which is the experiences that a lot of people have.
[04:57:38] My parents really, really, really came from nothing.
[04:57:42] Like, so I grew up around this real fidelity
[04:57:48] to the American dream.
[04:57:50] like if you work hard, you can make it.
[04:57:56] And so I did.
[04:57:58] Yeah, and they did.
[04:58:00] They did.
[04:58:01] Like my parents, I think about this now,
[04:58:04] my parents, they bought an apartment in the Bronx
[04:58:10] in their 20s and it was like $40,000.
[04:58:13] Wow.
[04:58:14] You know, like what?
[04:58:17] I
[04:58:19] Don't know if you were just about to start gaming for Mila or I just make sure you didn't forget
[04:58:23] That's really funny. That's your funny guy. You're funny guy or gal. Okay. Let's fucking love this hat. Holy shit
[04:58:29] It might be my new favorite
[04:58:31] DSA hat
[04:58:34] The pika plushie is so damn cute that these people aren't oh pika
[04:58:39] the pika a
[04:58:42] Rather adorable relative of the rabbits
[04:58:47] Okay. I need to pet a pika. That's crazy.
[04:58:53] Hassan pika. That's what they call me on.
[04:59:01] That's what they call me on, on Australian news, like that lady.
[04:59:05] Hassan pika. Lefty's losing it.
[04:59:10] That plus you better go on your background here. I put it on the edge of the
[04:59:13] kayak cam.
[04:59:14] It's August and summer is in full bloom.
[04:59:33] But the days of plenty won't be here for long.
[04:59:37] These slopes are only free from snow for ten weeks a year.
[04:59:43] When winter comes, this pika will be trapped in its burrow.
[04:59:49] To survive, it needs to stock up the larder.
[04:59:54] But while home is up here, the food is all the way down there.
[05:00:08] Every summer, pika must collect enough plants to see them through the tough times to come
[05:00:13] come. Multiple trips are inevitable. And anyone living high up on the slopes like this female
[05:00:27] has their work cut out for them. She may make over 10,000 trips in just one season. And
[05:00:39] The grand result of this frenetic activity is a haystack.
[05:00:48] These stockpiles of food can weigh up to 28 kilograms.
[05:00:52] That's more than 180 times a pica's own body weight.
[05:00:58] It's exhausting work.
[05:01:01] Perhaps there's another way.
[05:01:05] Hard worker.
[05:01:08] You just ruined an entire species from MAGA, the pika.
[05:01:14] How do I donate to preserve her?
[05:01:15] You donate to the, to the Maelot campaign.
[05:01:21] And then that's how you donate.
[05:01:22] A lot of folks think pikas are rodents, but they're actually lagomorphs more closely related
[05:01:27] to rabbits than rats.
[05:01:30] Yeah, yeah, you donate to support Maelot, Keros, Keros.
[05:01:37] And that's how you, uh, and then she preserves the pikes individually.
[05:01:43] Well, she doesn't even eat meat.
[05:01:46] Like what do you talk about?
[05:01:48] She's literally vegan, but vegetarian for the campaign.
[05:01:52] Okay.
[05:01:55] What more do you want?
[05:01:56] Unpause.
[05:01:57] Pogo.
[05:01:58] An easier way.
[05:02:02] Let's step closer to becoming a birder, okay.
[05:02:08] The slope, another piker is getting started on his haystack.
[05:02:13] What the fuck, we can't even get that hat in Denver?
[05:02:15] Yeah, no, it's not available yet.
[05:02:17] Yeah, what's up?
[05:02:18] What's up, what are you mad?
[05:02:21] Just joined Denver DSA, good.
[05:02:23] If you joined for the hat, you might not be able to get it yet though.
[05:02:31] I found you in a crossword in a book store.
[05:02:40] Distriction has been in the news for a campaign for
[05:02:41] Democrat Sanctuary.
[05:02:42] Everything is good and Israel is evil.
[05:02:47] Amazing.
[05:02:52] That's amazing.
[05:02:57] I mean, I was on the New York Times crossword as well.
[05:03:01] I like how you turn the red maga hat hate to dsa hat single-handedly kudos
[05:03:23] It's daylight I got mentioned in normie Twitter is not just reckless behavior
[05:03:28] That's not Kaya. She does look like Kaya though. And that island does look like Kaya.
[05:03:39] It's true.
[05:03:44] So much closer to home, our pika is saving precious time and energy.
[05:03:51] It's so tempting, she may well become a repeat offender.
[05:03:55] But it's a risky business.
[05:03:58] Caut red-handed.
[05:04:02] No one!
[05:04:06] Every bandit needs a good getaway route.
[05:04:22] And it's worked.
[05:04:25] That was great. All right, that was a little brief pica. And just because you knew you were
[05:04:32] coming here, you stirred up some stuff. Yeah, that's right. And you had some things to say this.
[05:04:39] Bro, it's crazy that like, look, I, like if AOC, who is like one of the most
[05:04:45] inoffensive congresspersons in general is capable of causing quote-unquote controversy,
[05:04:55] then, you know, of course people are going to yell at me too, you know, I just, there's, that's it.
[05:05:02] This week on a podcast about billionaires and you said you can't earn a billion dollars.
[05:05:10] Talk about what you said because this spurred a reaction from
[05:05:14] from Mr. Bezos in his newspaper?
[05:05:19] Yes, yes.
[05:05:20] Mr. Bezos's newspaper was not happy
[05:05:25] that I discussed abuses of market power and scale.
[05:05:31] And I think there are quite a lot of billionaires.
[05:05:36] I mean, there aren't a lot of billionaires
[05:05:37] in an absolute sense,
[05:05:41] but the proportion of billionaires
[05:05:43] that are upset with my comments,
[05:05:44] are quite high. And I think that, you know, to a working person and to working people,
[05:05:55] earn means something. The calluses on your hands, the aches of your joints, the way that
[05:06:05] we earn ourselves through school, through, you know, our first job. And I think that
[05:06:15] What is this? It's fitting for diagram to sport M.T.G.S. politics and that's your upside.
[05:06:21] After all, I admire the honesty, but those of us on the socialist left should naturally
[05:06:24] pay O.C. shouldn't be hard. Yes, the socialist left at the Atlantic Magazine. Uh huh. Yeah.
[05:06:30] I, I don't think Arash is easy is like, is actually a socialist. I know he self describes
[05:06:38] as one, but he's really fucking annoying, which I guess is a socialist tendency. Being
[05:06:46] really fucking annoying is, is, is certainly something that socialists do quite well if
[05:06:53] I do say so myself. But I do still think that AOC is not entirely wrong about her concerns
[05:07:03] over Marjorie Taylor Greene and like diving into a comprehensive alliance with the likes
[05:07:12] of Marjorie Taylor Greene because she sang some of the right things about Israel. But
[05:07:19] Yeah, no, I, I, of course, agree with Ryan Grim on this take, uh, that, uh,
[05:07:23] Russia's easy is annoying and not really a socialist.
[05:07:28] All the social chauvinists are now socialists. Do not laugh.
[05:07:35] Bro, I'm
[05:07:40] like it's not,
[05:07:42] it's not necessarily an inconsequential nor insignificant point that we are in
[05:07:46] agreement or in alignment with Marjorie Taylor Green on, okay? It's obviously one that is
[05:07:51] so rare in mainstream politics, in American politics amongst politicians, former, current,
[05:07:57] present, doesn't matter, right? So I'm not writing that off as like inconsequential at
[05:08:04] all. I need you to understand. I don't think it's inconsequential. I think it means something.
[05:08:09] And I think we should be using it to our advantage for sure. Hold on. I'm going to close this
[05:08:14] Having said that, however, having said that, however, I am annoyed by, like, not
[05:08:30] annoyed necessarily, but I just like, I don't understand the, I don't understand
[05:08:36] the the the excitement that I see from a lot of people like oh yeah I see like
[05:08:44] she's on our side now about fucking Marjorie Tiller Green
[05:08:49] why is this all suddenly 59 with a tweet this outfit is fire for the record how
[05:08:54] dare you
[05:09:02] Marjorie Tiller Green lost sport of trauma mag in this which she did not
[05:09:05] change, she's more likely grifting. I mean, I don't know. Is this something you can defend in good faith?
[05:09:15] Yes. I will go to war for the Picas. I'm annoyed in tactical sense. What does
[05:09:28] Marjorie Taylor Greene bring materially? I mean, it's the same as Tucker Carlson. It's the same
[05:09:32] is all these other people that like have possibly a framework that could change people's minds
[05:09:43] in the Republican coalitions. Like that's the idea at least. That's what people believe.
[05:09:48] Nice Jamel Buoy cosplay, Jamel Buoy outfit. Okay, man. Every time someone wears a fucking hat
[05:09:55] with a suit, it's not Jamel Buoy. He didn't invent this. Okay. And yes, you're right,
[05:10:00] though he does wear that shit all the time I don't know what it is I don't
[05:10:19] know what this tendency is for a lot of people were like we are desperate we are
[05:10:24] desperate for allies in this and I'm never one to like disparage people coming on board with this
[05:10:32] movement. I'm not. I've actually yelled at quite a few people who are maybe too skeptical.
[05:10:42] But I also, you know, it's gonna take a lot for me to look at Marjorie Taylor-Green as like a
[05:10:48] a movement leader or some shit, you know, respect, you know, we are that desperate,
[05:10:55] not that desperate as bullshit. I don't give a fuck what someone's background is. If they're
[05:10:59] openly communicating what Israel is doing to be a genocide and their word has like some
[05:11:06] level of influence, bro, you're wrong on this, you're in the minority on this. I get you
[05:11:12] want to stand AOC, but she's the only viable. I guess she's the only viable progressive,
[05:11:16] Please stop punching left. He did though punching left is in Marjorie Taylor green
[05:11:26] Marjorie Taylor green is left like being critical of Marjorie Taylor green is punching left. That's that's where we're at now
[05:11:46] I guess I guess words have no fucking meaning at this point
[05:11:55] What I mean, that's not what
[05:12:03] It's not even like the Jewish space laser I'm like talking about
[05:12:07] I'm not even trying to identify like what the the guiding
[05:12:10] principle for why she's anti-Israel. I'm not even doing that. I don't even do that with Tucker if you
[05:12:16] notice. I'll always be like, I don't know what's in their heart. Okay, maybe it's a little bit of the,
[05:12:22] maybe it's a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B, right? I'm not even talking about that.
[05:12:25] I'm talking about like what this person, what this person's like comprehensive worldview is,
[05:12:31] right? This person's comprehensive worldview is literally just like doing Israel, but in America.
[05:12:37] Okay? So it's like, even if I coordinate off this specific issue, the issue of Israel and like how
[05:12:47] they communicate on this issue and don't immediately assume that it's because like she wants the
[05:12:53] Jewish space lasers away from the hands of Israel being used in the Palestinians and instead to be
[05:12:59] used on Mexicans or whatever the fuck she believes, right? Like, maybe that's not the reason why she's
[05:13:05] anti-Israel. Maybe she's anti-Israel because she literally saw too many children be slaughtered
[05:13:09] in the hands of Israel and was like, this is unbearable. There's a high likelihood that
[05:13:15] plays a big role in the attitude shift because that has played a big role in the attitude shift
[05:13:20] of a lot of people on the right. A lot of people on the right saw that and were like, I'm out.
[05:13:26] 57% of Republicans under the age of 50 are anti-Israel now. That's unbelievable. You guys don't
[05:13:35] understand what that means, I don't think. That means that there is a lot of people who are
[05:13:38] Republicans who are just anti-Israel. For one reason or another, not all of them are anti-Israel
[05:13:43] because they're anti-Semitic. Maybe plenty of them, especially under the age of 30, might be, but
[05:13:51] that's not like the primary motivator.
[05:14:05] Margie Taylor Green convinced you she's not anti-Semitic. Maybe by showing up with a rabbi in a space suit praising her. Yes.
[05:14:23] Just like Wakai and Wes.
[05:14:25] Um, so yeah, I, I, I welcome, I welcome Marjorie Taylor green support.
[05:14:47] I do reluctantly, but I, I still welcome it nonetheless.
[05:14:53] But I don't think we should be doing is talking about how she's, you know, like a prominent
[05:14:59] fixture of this movement.
[05:15:01] That's a bit crazy.
[05:15:02] That's a bit too rich for my blood, you know?
[05:15:05] Because I've seen the way she communicates on other issues.
[05:15:08] It's not like she's had a real shift in consciousness.
[05:15:12] Like, I use Thomas Massey as a great example.
[05:15:15] Thomas Massey is like, Thomas Massey is pretty much a psychopath on so many issues.
[05:15:21] But I welcome Thomas Massey's sincere efforts when it comes to tackling the Epstein class
[05:15:28] alongside Rokana, and certainly being the lone and brave voice on the issue of Israel.
[05:15:36] Okay, on the Republican side.
[05:15:41] But nobody's fucking talking about Thomas Massey like he's a movement leader, right?
[05:15:45] I don't think.
[05:15:49] You know, I think we got to remind people, like, you know, they're, they're joining our side on this, right?
[05:15:54] We're not joining their side.
[05:15:57] Like that's, that's what it is.
[05:15:59] And the same goes for Tucker.
[05:16:02] And hopefully they can change their perspective on all this other stuff too.
[05:16:06] We are in an emperor with no clothes moment when it comes to American, the American economy and our democracy.
[05:16:14] and
[05:16:17] The Virginia redistricting maps were just overturned this morning
[05:16:23] I know you're in the right here, but this is the same argument the third way guy used against you word for word. Yeah
[05:16:30] Because ideologically the third way guy is closer to Marjorie Taylor Greene than he is to me
[05:16:35] And that's precisely the reason why I'm saying that about Marjorie Taylor Greene guys
[05:16:40] You know what my belief system is, you know what I believe, you know the policies that I want to implement, you know the changes that I want to see in this country.
[05:16:48] And I know what Marjorie Taylor Green represents as well, broadly speaking, on the issue of Israel, she's closer to us than she is, than even, you know, some key Democrats are, for sure.
[05:17:01] I mean, she's closer to me on Israel than than Chuck Schumer is, right?
[05:17:05] And she's closer to the truth and closer to justice than even Chuck Schumer is.
[05:17:09] I can't believe I'm saying those words, right?
[05:17:11] It's a shocking development.
[05:17:15] However, there's still a fuck ton of things that, that she believes that I am
[05:17:19] always going to oppose.
[05:17:25] You see what I mean?
[05:17:26] By judges that are largely financed by a movement of billionaires
[05:17:33] Here's Marjorie Taylor green AOC's keep in mind
[05:17:37] Here is the AOC is specified in personal reasons to distress Marjorie Taylor green
[05:17:41] This is a 2019 video unearthed by K-File for example
[05:17:44] And you whisper into her.
[05:17:45] This is infected.
[05:17:46] Ha, ha, ha.
[05:17:48] Oh!
[05:17:56] Bro, I think a lot of people also forget what she did.
[05:18:01] As far as breaking barriers as the cart titan,
[05:18:07] the amount of civilians that she ate is in the thousands.
[05:18:13] And we just totally forgot about that, like those are war crimes, right?
[05:18:17] Like those are war crimes that she did on her own as the smiling Titan.
[05:18:26] Why are we discounting?
[05:18:34] This is Ocasio confession.
[05:18:37] Alexandria, Ocasio Cortez, I'm an American citizen.
[05:18:41] I pay your salary for the taxes that you collect for me through the IRS because I'm a tax-paying
[05:18:48] citizen of the United States. I'm a woman. She broke through the walls of the Capitol to do this.
[05:18:53] Do you know how many civilians she ate in the process? I'm a female business owner and I'm
[05:19:00] proud to be an American woman and I do not support your socialist policies and I do not support your
[05:19:06] murderous abortion policies. As a mother of three children, I'm appalled at New
[05:19:11] York's law for abortion and it needs to end and it needs to stop now. You're
[05:19:15] bringing God's judgment on our country and I'm against it as well as my friends.
[05:19:20] So you need to stop being a baby and stop locking your door and come out and
[05:19:25] face the American citizens that you serve. If you want to be a big girl, you
[05:19:29] need to get rid of your diaper and come out and be able to talk to the American
[05:19:33] citizens instead of having to use a flap a little flat
[05:19:55] This is psychotic
[05:20:03] I can't believe Americans elected her man. We really are a fucking insane country
[05:20:11] All this needs is scary music over and it's a fantastic horror movie constant for the point of the killers. Yeah
[05:20:27] Oh my god
[05:20:33] We came here to do it.
[05:20:35] Yeah.
[05:20:36] You're a very good artist.
[05:20:40] I'm just trying to decorate.
[05:20:42] You know?
[05:20:43] This is her book.
[05:20:44] We signed it.
[05:20:45] This is her signed book and I'm just signing this.
[05:20:51] Should we draw a wall?
[05:20:53] Yeah, yeah.
[05:20:55] Is there another pen?
[05:20:57] We really want to draw a wall.
[05:20:59] So let's draw what a wall looks like everybody.
[05:21:02] This is a wall.
[05:21:16] In 2021 Margie Taylor Greene was calling the squad homo supporters. People are way too harsh on people like AOC and
[05:21:22] and great right-wings on a huge curb. Yeah.
[05:21:27] Yeah, it is pretty crazy like
[05:21:32] I mean, I know I know Marjorie Taylor green is a little too difficult for me to be like, yeah, no, that's my that's my queen, right?
[05:21:46] Am I crazy?
[05:21:49] Am I fucking am I nuts?
[05:21:53] I mean, I welcome growth, right? I welcome. I love rehabilitation. I welcome growth. You know this.
[05:21:58] growth, you know this. But it's crazy to me that we're talking about Marjorie Taylor Green.
[05:22:04] Like maybe, maybe she's, she's had real growth in this issue. That video is so funny. She
[05:22:15] is demanded. I mean, yeah, she's, she's awesome. Then why do you like Candace Owens so much?
[05:22:22] crazy. That's, I say the same thing about Canis Owens.
[05:22:27] And American inequality is at an absolute peak. And we have to ask ourselves if this
[05:22:37] is how we want to live as a society. If we want 3,400 people to be prioritized over well
[05:22:45] over 300 million. And when we question the legitimacy of that power structure, the people
[05:22:53] at the time, where are you on Massey? I respect Massey a lot more than these guys. A lot more.
[05:23:00] I and I don't align with Massey on shit except for two key issues. And I have a lot more
[05:23:11] respect for Thomas Massey than I do for a Marjorie Taylor green. Thomas Massey has consistently
[05:23:17] been there and he's also done things. Thomas Massey is literally just still a straight forward
[05:23:30] racist. But I think Thomas Massey is a lot more serious than Marjorie Taylor Greene is.
[05:23:44] Because like people say, oh, she like stood up to her party leadership on these issues.
[05:23:49] Yeah, so did Thomas Massey. A lot earlier than Marjorie Taylor Greene did when
[05:23:56] And a lot of people, like when you would get a shit ton more punishments for it.
[05:24:17] Massey is also consistent.
[05:24:18] His worldview is nuts, but consistent.
[05:24:20] Yeah, that's true.
[05:24:21] I mean, his worldview is nuts.
[05:24:25] Bro, wait, no, it wasn't Thomas Massey. It was Kato Institute, the David Byer Kato Institute guy was really funny
[05:24:32] He's like we need to fund ice. I'm like, yeah, and he's like just like every other federal agency. I was like, no
[05:24:40] The Kato Institute guy delivering a speech to Congress where he's like
[05:24:44] ice is an unbelievably corrupt and violent force
[05:24:48] the Department of Homeland Security is a
[05:24:50] is a, is a prominent fixture in the surveillance state. We have to abolish both just like every
[05:24:57] other, just like every other federal agency. I was like, no. Yeah. He's like, I love, I
[05:25:06] love guys like that. I love like real libertarians like that who will just say something so
[05:25:10] cool and so correct.
[05:25:14] Like the department of Homeland security is, is a violent surveillance apparatus that
[05:25:18] must be abolished. I'm like, hell yeah, totally. And he's like, and so is the FDA.
[05:25:35] It's great.
[05:25:37] We're going to be very mad. And the little hobby newspapers that they've bought,
[05:25:43] which they love to say that we are making the quality of everything better.
[05:25:49] Jeff Bezos purchased the Washington Post.
[05:25:54] He laid off some of the highest qualified journalists that made it an American institution
[05:26:01] so that he could turn it into a mouthpiece that wanders his personal agenda and opinions.
[05:26:08] And he is using it because, right, for a lot of folks, it's not enough to be powerful.
[05:26:17] They have to be loved.
[05:26:20] And he then uses this mouthpiece to take aim at politicians that want to question the deeply
[05:26:29] unequal and unjust distribution of power in America.
[05:26:33] And they want to continue to undercut, threaten, punish those who say democracy belongs at
[05:26:41] the ballot box, and it's also measured in power, economic power, political power, and
[05:26:48] that that power should belong with the people of this country, not the very few.
[05:26:53] So your assault is on the system that facilitates that, but presumably you think, the editorial,
[05:27:06] it is a kind of edgy piece.
[05:27:09] The likely 228 presidential candidate, we'll talk about that later, is arguing that there
[05:27:15] is no idea anyone can have or accompany, anyone can start or value, anyone can generate
[05:27:20] for others that could possibly be worth a million dollars.
[05:27:23] True, that raises this question.
[05:27:24] Instead of fawning Glaser, that's the podcaster
[05:27:26] did not ask.
[05:27:28] In what way does Ocasio-Cortez believe that Taylor Swift,
[05:27:31] Michael Jordan, Jerry Seinfeld, Oprah Winfrey,
[05:27:34] or Beyonce, billionaires all broke the rules
[05:27:36] to accumulate their wealth?
[05:27:37] What did they take advantage of?
[05:27:39] Does she think the FBI should investigate
[05:27:41] Governor J.B. Pritzker or Tom Steyer,
[05:27:44] who's running for governor of California?
[05:27:46] What about Democratic megadotor Alex Soros,
[05:27:49] a big fan of Ocasio-Cortez's.
[05:27:53] Are there good billionaires and bad billionaires?
[05:27:56] I think this is the red herring, right?
[05:27:58] They want us to get into this quibbling
[05:28:02] of the morality of any individual person
[05:28:07] instead of the immorality of the fact
[05:28:11] that there is virtually no place in America
[05:28:14] where you can afford an apartment on a full-time job
[05:28:18] minimum wage and that that's not that is somehow completely disconnected and
[05:28:23] alien from the fact that we have a system that is designed to create this
[05:28:31] level of income inequality. In the last five years billionaire wealth has
[05:28:37] doubled. Ask yourself if the quality of your life has doubled in the last five
[05:28:43] years. And it, you know, we are experiencing the concentration of our systems.
[05:28:51] She's not defending LeBron. Why are you silent? Man, I don't give a fuck.
[05:28:55] From a billionaire perspective, I think it's so unbelievably cynical and annoying when people
[05:29:00] go, what about these popular billionaires? Like, okay, what about it, dude? I'm willing to bet you
[05:29:06] ask them if, uh, if they would rather live in a fucking society where we have high speed rail,
[05:29:11] free healthcare, free college education, if they were no longer a billionaire, they are
[05:29:15] a lot more likely to say, sure, why not? I'll take $999 million as opposed to a fucking
[05:29:21] billion and get all of those amenities in return than the Jeff Bezos of the world and
[05:29:28] even the Warren Buffetts of the world. Okay. Don't say, eh. And even then it doesn't fucking
[05:29:34] matter. I don't care if they don't like that. Okay. Who gives a shit? Sacrifice a little
[05:29:40] bit, please. Oh, no. Oh, no, you won't have a billion. Oh, no. What will we do? Now, of
[05:29:47] course, there's no like top marginal tax situation, tax structure that like just says, Nope, the
[05:29:55] cutoff is a billion. We're taking all the fucking money that you make after a billion
[05:29:58] anyway. So it doesn't even fucking matter. It's on twitch has been told by Amazon to
[05:30:06] suppress your audience count? Yeah, I don't think that's the case. I think it's a it's
[05:30:11] it's 430 p.m. on a Saturday after I did a candid interview. It's normal.
[05:30:23] Billionaires and millionaires, pay your wealth taxes. Stop chirping about how much you lose a
[05:30:27] billionaire. Yeah.
[05:30:36] You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how LeBron acquires wealth was through ownership
[05:30:45] man. No one offered him a billion dollars. Wait, first of all, I think there are a couple
[05:30:50] wage billionaires on the planet. I think LeBron might literally be one of them. It doesn't
[05:30:56] matter though, because the vast sum that he has acquired beyond that is through business
[05:31:01] ownership regardless. Yeah, these guys all invest, of course they do. And that's not,
[05:31:17] I mean it doesn't matter anyway, it doesn't matter, it's so stupid. Who gives a shit?
[05:31:26] housing system. I mean, this wealth is being built from market consolidation and consolidation
[05:31:33] of our housing system, our energy systems, right? The president has taken huge amounts
[05:31:41] of contributions from special interests in order to essentially stop wind energy and
[05:31:48] renewable and clean energy in this country to prop up profits. And we look at, you know,
[05:31:54] and so on and so forth, and people want to make this about individuals instead of about
[05:32:06] the system that allows this mass concentration of wealth to occur, and also the decisions
[05:32:12] that are made to allow that to continue to exist, and to protect that concentration
[05:32:20] of power and wealth.
[05:32:22] See, yeah, LeBron has made $481 million from NBA contracts and Nike gave him a lifetime
[05:32:28] contract worth $1 billion.
[05:32:29] Labor billionaire.
[05:32:30] It doesn't matter though, okay?
[05:32:33] My point was literally that this is a totally immaterial to the systemic shifts that are
[05:32:40] necessary here to build a more egalitarian society, okay, a more productive society.
[05:32:47] A society where people aren't just starving because they were born in the wrong zip code,
[05:32:51] okay?
[05:32:52] fuck. Like it's just it's I'm tackling the root of the question and how stupid it is because
[05:33:00] it's a deflection away from the systemic failures. So yours is a systemic critique. I mean he took
[05:33:14] it personally. Of course he did. But yours is a systemic critique and the question really is
[05:33:21] what do we do about it? Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, first and foremost, there's a reason he
[05:33:27] took it personally. Yeah, what do we do about it is a great question. Wealth tax. Okay. That's one
[05:33:36] redistributive policy, I think. That's one way to do it. We do it for property, we can do it for
[05:33:43] wealth. That's number one, but number two, perhaps more resilient, a more resilient and far
[05:33:51] better way to approach the issue is by dramatically restructuring the power that labor has of the
[05:34:00] workplace, the ownership that labor could have over all of their productive output.
[05:34:05] There's many different ways. There's many different ways to work on this issue. We're
[05:34:17] not doing any of them. Yeah, wealth tax, nationalization, democratic control over the workplace.
[05:34:24] He almost taken Liverpool. No, labor billionaire exists. No, you're wrong. Oh God, it doesn't
[05:34:33] matter though. It doesn't matter. I don't understand why you guys can't comprehend this. I'm not
[05:34:40] saying LeBron has like acquired all of his wealth through ethical means, okay? You saying
[05:34:46] that justifies your existence? No! No, I'm not! As a matter of fact, I see the exact opposite.
[05:34:57] the fuck? Don't say it doesn't matter when they're wrong. I'm not wrong. I'm literally
[05:35:03] not. I always mentioned it that due to inflation, nowadays you have something unfathomable, previously
[05:35:10] unfathomable, which is the consumable fucking labor bill in our segment, Lionel Messi, for
[05:35:13] example, or LeBron James. We already talked about a LeBron got a lifetime Nike deal that
[05:35:18] is worth a billion dollars, okay? There are athletes out there who have lifetime contracts
[05:35:30] or just like endorsements in general that is almost a billion dollars or more than a
[05:35:35] billion dollars, okay? No, on a factual level, he acquired the majority of his wealth through
[05:35:41] strategic investments and real estate. I'm literally going to shoot myself into the fucking
[05:35:44] son because you are not listening to me, okay?
[05:35:51] I know that.
[05:35:52] I have mentioned that, and even if he got it through just wage labor, that still should
[05:35:59] be taxed.
[05:36:00] Regardless, you are not understanding the words that are coming out of my mouth.
[05:36:09] You are a subscriber to the Hassanabi Barqa, as you can rewind, you have the rewind function,
[05:36:13] You can rewind and re-listen to literally every single thing that I mentioned, because
[05:36:19] you're repeating them right now.
[05:36:29] How dare you criticize LeBron Swift?
[05:36:30] No, I don't give a fuck.
[05:36:37] Yes, really.
[05:36:39] You are repeating the things that I already said.
[05:36:43] But the only difference is you're repeating it in a contentious manner as though I did not bring these things up.
[05:36:50] As though you're bringing it up for the first time. That's not the case. I already brought it up.
[05:36:58] Because the concentration of wealth in this country has gotten so dire and so extreme that you can literally name the people who have half of the wealth.
[05:37:10] Well stop using the term labor billionaire labor billionaire is not a thing and no will be cute views you sound silly
[05:37:17] Okay, first of all
[05:37:24] You know, I'm not gonna be mean you're right chatter, I'm gonna keep using it though if that frustrates you then you know it frustrates you
[05:37:32] Has he or has he not received 1 billion in compensation for services rendered the answer is yes there you go
[05:37:47] It's unbelievable and it's a testament to how how fucked up our
[05:37:52] Global system of capital is and how much inflation exists in the world in in the American economy especially
[05:37:59] But it's true
[05:38:02] It is crazy, wrong, it's literally not wrong, it's not wrong, it's not wrong.
[05:38:17] What a lot of people also fail to consider here is that if someone is getting wages in
[05:38:22] the form of a billion dollars, that means they're making a fuckload more, right?
[05:38:28] This is a real issue with like, I'm not trying to annoy you.
[05:38:31] You are annoying me even if you're not trying and also you're just wrong.
[05:38:40] Like try to fathom how much money someone else is making that they can literally fucking
[05:38:44] pay someone a billion dollars.
[05:38:56] Yeah. This was, uh, this was, yeah, Ronaldo is Bloomberg's first billionaire footballer.
[05:39:02] Ronaldo also owns a fuck ton of assets too for the record, but his career earnings, wait,
[05:39:09] no, this, uh, this takes investments and endorsements in the account, but just on, I think career
[05:39:15] earnings alone, there are people out there who have made a billion. And I think Ronaldo
[05:39:20] is one of the few, it might have been Lionel Messi as well. It's unbelievable, it's unbelievable,
[05:39:33] it's unbelievably rare, so it's totally irrelevant to the conversation, it's so rare, it doesn't
[05:39:43] matter and plus even then it can be it can be taxed out this country it's gotten
[05:39:57] so extreme that you can name Jeff Bezos Elon Musk the Waltons and so of course
[05:40:06] when we criticize the system the system's gotten so concentrated that they
[05:40:12] take it as criticisms of themselves. And frankly, of course, they take it personally because when
[05:40:17] you are completely unwilling to look at and be as invested in our country.
[05:40:22] And Goppe has already made about six years of his career and still has over $1 billion left on
[05:40:27] his contract. There you go. As every, as an everyday American is, which is really what we're talking
[05:40:33] about with mass concentrations. Well, what kind of society do we want to live in? What is your
[05:40:39] Your chat doesn't know how to act when you bring up wealthy athletes and their endorsements like all that can be taxed to yes
[05:40:44] And what's really frustrating about this is like chatters will get this mad when we talk about like the the
[05:40:50] The sports unions like the players unions that exist and I keep explaining to them that like yes high earner athletes are
[05:40:58] unbelievably fucking rare as opposed to the rest of the labor force and yet what you always forget when you're thinking about like
[05:41:05] high earning athletes and the wages that they get as
[05:41:07] has literally players that are getting a wage, a salary from a company. What you failed to
[05:41:14] to consider in that situation is that high earning athlete is literally generating value
[05:41:20] for the goddamn team that is hired, that is a higher amount. Okay. Their wages, their
[05:41:28] salaries are their income. Okay. That means that the team is making more money. That means
[05:41:35] there's a owner that's making even more money off that fucking athlete.
[05:41:44] But a lot of people lose sight of the function over the form.
[05:41:51] They see the form and they forget the function.
[05:41:54] They don't understand the concept of surplus value, surplus labor value.
[05:41:58] They don't understand that like, if an athlete is making a million dollars,
[05:42:02] that means the owner is making a million plus off of that fucking athlete.
[05:42:05] Okay, that's how it works.
[05:42:12] It's not how much money the athlete is making is a problem here.
[05:42:15] It's the way that these teams are generating value off of their labor.
[05:42:25] And you have to fight back against it through unions, which they do, right?
[05:42:30] They have contracts that they're able to fight for.
[05:42:41] Good for the country.
[05:42:43] And then what is good for myself?
[05:42:47] Let's bring in Brian Tyler Cohen, host of the New York Times News Live with Brian Tyler
[05:42:52] Cohen podcast.
[05:42:53] And Caroline Sunshine, former communications aide for President Trump's 2024 presidential
[05:42:57] campaign.
[05:42:59] Welcome back to both of you, Brian, let's start with the CNN segment that your trainer
[05:43:03] was talking about.
[05:43:04] The Trump aide mentioned you in the convo.
[05:43:05] Oh, maybe this was the nighttime one.
[05:43:07] You have been on this redistricting train for years, telling Democrats that you should
[05:43:11] redistrict a lot of time.
[05:43:13] Well, Brian Tyler Cohen, I'm not going to lie, trying to look like me a little bit with
[05:43:17] the beard.
[05:43:18] And they wouldn't listen to you.
[05:43:20] Now it seems like they finally are realizing the risk of this.
[05:43:24] What's your reaction?
[05:43:25] What happened in Virginia and what Democrats should do now?
[05:43:27] look i think that the reaction would happen in virginia is that it is the
[05:43:31] perfect encapsulation of the asymmetry between the two sides where we have
[05:43:35] independent redistricting here by the way and i one hundred percent endorse
[05:43:40] brian tyler colin statements about the redistricting
[05:43:43] this is one of the things where i'm like totally on board with the democratic
[05:43:46] party
[05:43:47] i don't give a fuck if you call me a reactionary bourgeois zionist whatever
[05:43:51] israel
[05:43:52] lover
[05:43:53] literally it's correct okay it is the right thing to do
[05:43:57] the the party actually did it one
[05:44:00] like in in a very unique very rare circumstance the party actually behaved
[05:44:04] in a way that a competent party is supposed to an opposition party is
[05:44:07] supposed to
[05:44:08] and then they immediately backed away from its very frustrating missions in all
[05:44:11] of the democratic weapons and
[05:44:13] you know even when you go to the voters even with three million people show up
[05:44:17] to vote in a referendum that based on some small technicality
[05:44:21] yes you invented having a beard i was there when it started man i'm fucking
[05:44:24] joking okay i'm fucking joking
[05:44:27] tonight joke
[05:44:28] and i love the joke
[05:44:30] yes i did invent the beard okay no one else that ever had a beard before me
[05:44:34] of those voters voices are gonna be silenced at the same time
[05:44:37] that we have
[05:44:38] republicans in florida in texas
[05:44:41] in north carolina possibly south carolina tenancy
[05:44:45] all who just decided by fiat that they're gonna redraw their states maps i
[05:44:49] mean basically i'm not sure i did legislatures elected legislatures but
[05:44:53] but rejoining state maps without a single person weighing in on this stuff
[05:44:56] basically ushering in Jim Crow 2.0 in the South.
[05:44:59] I wouldn't be surprised if we get to a point
[05:45:01] where we see no black representation
[05:45:03] in any of these Southern states.
[05:45:04] And so I think it's a wake up call
[05:45:06] to Democrats across the country.
[05:45:08] If you are a Democrat in New Jersey, New York,
[05:45:11] Maryland, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, Colorado,
[05:45:15] this is the time to start fighting back
[05:45:17] and recognize the urgency of this moment right here.
[05:45:20] Because Republicans don't believe
[05:45:21] that Democrats have a right to exist as a party.
[05:45:24] And so if we don't start fighting back,
[05:45:26] And if we don't stop unilaterally disarming,
[05:45:29] they're going to, we're basically
[05:45:31] get a good government ourselves into obscurity.
[05:45:33] Caroline, what do you think of this?
[05:45:34] Is it Jim Crow 2.0?
[05:45:36] Well, so you're opposed to this
[05:45:38] because you think that this dilutes
[05:45:40] people's political power unfairly?
[05:45:43] Is that why you're opposed to this?
[05:45:45] I think that it dilutes the ability of people
[05:45:47] in certain jurisdictions to be able
[05:45:48] to vote for their representatives.
[05:45:49] Nashville has been cracked into multiple districts.
[05:45:52] Memphis has been cracked in multiple districts.
[05:45:54] And so there's no way that those people
[05:45:56] who live in those jurisdictions can vote for their representatives because the Republicans
[05:45:59] have purposefully gerrymandered those states to die.
[05:46:03] I told you.
[05:46:07] I mean, he's cooking.
[05:46:08] He's right.
[05:46:09] They're voting power.
[05:46:11] So you're against diluting voting power?
[05:46:13] I'm against gerrymandering.
[05:46:14] Okay, so do you support then illegal immigrants being allowed to vote in-
[05:46:18] Wait, what?
[05:46:19] What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
[05:46:22] What are you saying right now?
[05:46:24] Oh my god, this is the best that MAGA has to offer?
[05:46:28] Ayo!
[05:46:30] Elections?
[05:46:32] Illegal immigrants don't vote in federal elections.
[05:46:34] Well, illegal immigrants are who Democrats want to vote in federal elections.
[05:46:37] Okay, that's ridiculous!
[05:46:39] That's not a thing right now, and it most likely will never be a thing.
[05:46:43] What kind of fucking stupid counter is that?
[05:46:46] That has nothing to do with redrawing maps.
[05:46:48] The fuck?
[05:46:50] If you are against diluting political power for anybody, you should not want illegal immigrants
[05:47:02] to vote in American elections.
[05:47:04] Because we can't guide them.
[05:47:05] I like your suit choices a lot, man.
[05:47:06] It looks extremely well.
[05:47:07] I wonder if it's off-putting to the younger viewers or if they like it as well.
[05:47:10] It doesn't make you look more serious, I assume.
[05:47:12] That's the point.
[05:47:13] Will you update your background as well?
[05:47:14] Maybe.
[05:47:15] But I do like the suits.
[05:47:18] I like the suits.
[05:47:19] like dressing up. This is the Fox News argument. It doesn't hit with the CNN audience. It just
[05:47:24] doesn't hit when you have someone with a brain, okay? It just doesn't hit. It ends up hitting you
[05:47:29] in the fucking face. If you, if you're on Fox News, uncontested or talking to a bunch of other
[05:47:35] dumbasses who are going exactly, that's exactly what they want. They want immigrants to come to
[05:47:39] your home and steal your ballots and vote Democrat down ballot every single time, then sure, but
[05:47:46] But you're not at Fox News, you're in front of two other adults, which, as far as I understand,
[05:47:53] have functioning braids.
[05:47:54] It's not going to fucking work.
[05:47:57] What the fuck do you mean, illegal immigrants, Democrats wanted legal immigrants to vote?
[05:48:02] The fuck are you talking about?
[05:48:03] It's literally illegal.
[05:48:05] What the fuck?
[05:48:07] Not only is it illegal, it is unbelievably rare.
[05:48:09] It's actually so rare.
[05:48:11] It's more rare for an undocumented immigrant to vote, which as far as I understand might
[05:48:16] have happened at some point by accident.
[05:48:19] I believe it happened by accident in Michigan, like in the last election cycle.
[05:48:23] You know what's actually less rare in as far as like voter fraud taking place?
[05:48:28] Republicans voting twice or Republicans voting for their dead husbands, okay?
[05:48:32] That is infinitely more likely to happen than an illegal immigrant voting in the federal
[05:48:38] elections.
[05:48:39] Now, having said that, even the Republicans doing voter fraud is un-fucking-believably rare.
[05:48:45] This is not a real conversation, okay?
[05:48:49] Oh my God.
[05:48:52] Debate bro attire, hitting Hassanabe like crack in the 80s?
[05:48:55] Wait, what?
[05:48:56] Why?
[05:48:57] This is not debate bro attire.
[05:48:59] But this isn't a discussion about that, and illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote
[05:49:08] in federal elections. What about this move of what the Supreme Court did and what Republicans
[05:49:12] are doing right now when it comes?
[05:49:13] Yeah, she could be like, Alex, you're being biased. Yeah, bias is the truth, maybe, the
[05:49:18] fuck.
[05:49:19] Mr. redistricting, a lot of this started with President Trump telling Texas to get him more
[05:49:23] congressional districts.
[05:49:24] That's why it started. And the real reason why it started, okay, the real reason why
[05:49:30] why it started is because Donald Trump was worried. Donald Trump knows that his time as
[05:49:38] this unilateral commander of the American government is gone. It's over, okay? He knows
[05:49:46] he's unpopular and he wants to work against that. And the way to try to work against it
[05:49:51] is by gaming the system, okay? To create new districts so that there are new Republican
[05:49:57] seats like safer Republican seats in red states. That's what they're trying to do. Okay? That's
[05:50:04] the goal here. Door's open. So in an effort to combat that, in an effort to combat the voter
[05:50:13] displacement in the national level, at the federal level, the Democratic Party said,
[05:50:17] okay, you redistrict here, we're going to redistrict there. And not only did they do that,
[05:50:22] not only did they do that in Virginia, they did it in the most ethical way possible.
[05:50:26] They put a timeline on how long those districts, the new redistricting initiatives could exist
[05:50:33] until the new census, right? And also on top of that,
[05:50:42] what? You used to be so drippy. It was refreshing to see someone with style and not just someone
[05:50:45] who looked like they're cosplaying the political class. You do you though. I will survive the
[05:50:49] suit era. Man, y'all say that about any fucking minute change that I make is crazy. I make a,
[05:50:57] I make a change. I wear a suit. You're like, well, I'll survive. You know, I'm a survivor.
[05:51:03] I survived cancer. I can survive this. Like same thing with a fucking
[05:51:10] same thing with a goddamn soundboard. Everything I do every minute change here
[05:51:14] here, causes people to lose their fucking minds. It's like the most autistic community
[05:51:19] on the internet. I swear to God.
[05:51:21] I think checks and balances played out here. I mean, the Virginia Supreme Court said this
[05:51:29] can't happen in 2026, but it could happen in 2028. So I'm not sure what the goal is
[05:51:33] here. This went through the democratic process and the Supreme Court, the judge struck it
[05:51:37] down saying the language and the referendum was flagrantly misleading. And he's not saying
[05:51:41] it can't.
[05:51:42] That was the literal argument.
[05:51:43] That was an argument in Louisiana, which the Supreme Court of the United States did not
[05:51:48] take into consideration when they did the redistricting after people had fucking voted.
[05:51:53] So shut the fuck up.
[05:51:55] You have no leg to stand on as bullshit.
[05:51:59] Only valid.
[05:52:00] I survived the 2020 fits.
[05:52:01] Aerofits.
[05:52:02] Yeah.
[05:52:03] If you survive the 2020 Aerofits, then this is a fit that you can survive.
[05:52:12] Chatters, right, bro.
[05:52:20] Suits are performative is Saturday.
[05:52:23] Put a sweater on.
[05:52:25] Listen, many of you survived the water buffalo hair era, the 2020 fits era.
[05:52:33] Okay.
[05:52:34] That's all, that's all I'm going to say.
[05:52:37] If you survived that era, that was my worst.
[05:52:40] It literally was my words.
[05:52:45] If you can survive that, you can survive anything.
[05:52:50] Happening, he's just saying it can't happen in 2026 because it's unconstitutional.
[05:52:58] And he's correct because that is a flagrant power play by Democrats to try to reshape
[05:53:03] the midterms in twenty twenty-six. So if you think that's a power play, was it a power play when Donald Trump demanded the same thing in Texas?
[05:53:11] Said that he was entitled to five seats in Texas, was that a power play?
[05:53:14] Texas isn't Virginia, the state's sovereign according to the Constitution.
[05:53:17] I'm asking you if it was a power play, I'm asking you if it was a power play.
[05:53:21] It played out how it played out in Texas because Texas isn't Virginia.
[05:53:24] I understand that Texas is not Virginia, but I want to know if you think it was a power play.
[05:53:27] Where does this go? Because you want to talk about power plays.
[05:53:29] I would love to know, Hassan Piker on your side of the aisle said today that as a result
[05:53:34] of this ruling.
[05:53:45] What the fuck?
[05:53:50] I know Tyler, Brian Tyler, Conan's ass is not about to defend me.
[05:53:54] Let's see what he says.
[05:53:55] If a peaceful revolution is not possible, then violent revolution is inevitable.
[05:54:01] So do you agree with his own piker?
[05:54:02] I'm not here to, I'm not Hassan piker, Hassan piker.
[05:54:05] But do you agree with that?
[05:54:06] Hassan piker can speak for himself.
[05:54:07] What does he mean by that?
[05:54:08] I don't know, you can ask him.
[05:54:09] I'm not Hassan piker.
[05:54:10] I'm, I'm a liar.
[05:54:11] But do you agree with that?
[05:54:12] Do you condemn that?
[05:54:13] Call Hassan piker and ask.
[05:54:14] Where do you want to see this?
[05:54:15] Oh, when I'm here, I don't care what Hassan piker says.
[05:54:16] I'm not Hassan piker.
[05:54:17] I don't think Brian's pushing for violent revolution.
[05:54:18] Yeah, are you or no?
[05:54:19] Just to be clear.
[05:54:20] Cause like, where does this go now that the Supreme Court in Virginia has ruled?
[05:54:25] calling on every Democratic elected official either in the legislature or the governor's office in
[05:54:29] Democratic states across the country and demanding that they redraw maps to fight fire with fire and
[05:54:34] actually by the way that is a easy dunk for him but he could have just been like yeah he's saying
[05:54:50] He's not saying it's good to have a violent revolution.
[05:54:55] He's repeating the same warnings that John Fitzgerald, Kennedy, Maine.
[05:55:00] It's literally a JFK quote.
[05:55:04] I know you're not the most educated, right?
[05:55:08] You could be like, you're not the most educated, but I'm sure you've heard the president JFK
[05:55:13] before, right?
[05:55:14] Counter-ack what Republicans have done in a raft of different states across the country,
[05:55:18] and what they continue to do in southern states across the country in response to the Voting
[05:55:21] Rights Act being gutted.
[05:55:23] Do you think that there should be a national ban on gerrymandering to try to stop this
[05:55:27] whole thing around the country?
[05:55:29] Not opposed to it, but I also believe that the Constitution says, you know, 10th Amendment,
[05:55:34] what is not outlined here is left to the states, and I think states have a right to
[05:55:37] decide their own process.
[05:55:38] And that's what I'm arguing with you, is the process played out here in Virginia.
[05:55:42] It was put on the ballot on a referendum directly with the voters.
[05:55:46] It barely passed.
[05:55:47] The language was extremely misleading.
[05:55:49] There was an appeal.
[05:55:50] It then went to the state Supreme Court.
[05:55:52] What's the problem here?
[05:55:53] Checks and balances played out.
[05:55:55] And you supported a national ban?
[05:55:57] 100%.
[05:55:58] And in fact, when the Democrats put that forward, a national ban on gerrymandering in 2021,
[05:56:02] the Freedom to Vote Act, every single Democrat voted for it, every single Republican voted
[05:56:06] against it.
[05:56:07] Do you think the United States Supreme Court, which has supported Texas' right to do this
[05:56:11] and has supported California's right to do this, will support Virginia's right to do
[05:56:16] redistricting?
[05:56:17] might overturn this.
[05:56:18] No, I think that the Supreme Court has proven itself
[05:56:20] to be an arm of the Republican Party, if nothing else.
[05:56:23] And we have seen numerous instances
[05:56:25] where whether it's this US Supreme Court, where
[05:56:28] you had a bunch of justices, beat their chest
[05:56:31] about the importance of precedent and the Voting Rights
[05:56:34] Act, which is that precedent has been reaffirmed over
[05:56:38] and over and over again for the past 60 years,
[05:56:41] just like Roe was precedent that was reaffirmed over and over
[05:56:43] Again, the Supreme Court stands for its own adherence to the Republican Party.
[05:56:49] You think the Supreme Court might step in?
[05:56:51] I don't think they're going to hear this.
[05:56:52] I don't see why they would.
[05:56:53] Again, the people of Virginia spoke.
[05:56:55] And what's interesting is when this referendum was put on the ballot.
[05:57:01] The people of Virginia spoke?
[05:57:02] No, they didn't speak in the direction that you're claiming.
[05:57:12] matter of fact, they spoke in the opposite direction and then they voted and then the
[05:57:17] Supreme Court overturned it. It's not the people of Virginia, it's objectively the opposite of the
[05:57:21] people of Virginia.
[05:57:22] All right, let's be very clear. It disenfranchised the rights and the voices if we're talking
[05:57:26] about who got disenfranchised with the right.
[05:57:28] Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize it was disenfranchisement. You just said it was good for Texas.
[05:57:33] Yeah, gotta be the biggest dumbest attempt to cancel them for quoting JFK at a time when
[05:57:47] Normie Dem sentiment would viscerally align with this quote.
[05:57:56] Not lost on me, there's a bunch of Israel fanatics and Iraq war boosters concerned
[05:57:59] trolling about violence and their big fake hang up is a JFK quote because the son said
[05:58:02] Colbert keeps radically off and they've never had a problem. You have star more level political
[05:58:07] instincts, which explains why we're also fucked right now.
[05:58:15] Yep. Referendum of rural Virginians. This referendum transferred power from majority of the state,
[05:58:22] which is rural Virginians and consolidated it among the swamp, which is people who work in
[05:58:26] DC and live in Virginia, but I didn't hear you speaking.
[05:58:30] And by the way, I would concede that when you have a gerrymandered map, certain people
[05:58:36] are disenfranchised, which is why this whole thing was sparked off after Republicans first
[05:58:41] went after Texas.
[05:58:42] I didn't agree with it when it happened in Texas.
[05:58:44] But what I don't want to see is unilateral disarmament.
[05:58:47] I think gerrymandering is a scourge all around.
[05:58:50] But if you really care about disenfranchisement, then you'll care about it when it happens
[05:58:55] right off the bat.
[05:58:56] about it when it happens in Texas. You'll care about it when all of a sudden Memphis
[05:58:59] is cracked into multiple districts, Nashville is cracked into multiple districts, and those
[05:59:02] people have no voting power because that's 100% Republican.
[05:59:05] And that is true in California now that Republicans are being disenfranchised by Prop 50.
[05:59:10] But the difference is...
[05:59:11] But the districts are not, it's not fair to Republican voters. And the idea of like
[05:59:15] a 52 to nothing map here is not fair, just like it's not fit...
[05:59:19] Yeah, but they should do it.
[05:59:26] They should do it in New York too which I have some smoke for by the way I'm actually
[05:59:41] very annoyed that New York Democrats won't do it because they're like I think they're
[05:59:44] legitimately worried about like their their safe incumbents.
[05:59:52] They're claiming it's because of the principle. They don't want to gut any of the VRA principle
[05:59:58] districts that they have, like heavily densely black populated districts that they have.
[06:00:04] That's bullshit because you're literally doing it to protect and preserve the vote participation
[06:00:11] of black voters in the South by literally creating new Democrat districts, Democrat
[06:00:20] seeds. In the north.
[06:00:25] Here, what we're seeing in Tennessee and other places where there's going to be no democratic
[06:00:30] representation, that's bad for democracy.
[06:00:31] Correct. It's terrible for democracy. The difference is there's only one party that
[06:00:35] actually supports a nationwide ban on gerrymandering, and that's the Democrats.
[06:00:38] But violence revolution, to be clear, is also bad for democracy.
[06:00:40] And I, I, neither Brian nor myself are endorsing violent revolution, just to be clear. Always
[06:00:46] against political violence. I've said that repeatedly.
[06:00:49] Quickly, here in Los Angeles, there's a very interesting race happening right now for mayor.
[06:00:55] Karen Bass, the incumbent who has been in battle and does not have very high approval
[06:00:59] ratings right now, is being challenged by Spencer Pratt, a reality star known for the
[06:01:03] Hills, who's a Republican, gets a lot of attention on social media, had a debate this
[06:01:09] week, got a lot of attention for it.
[06:01:13] What do you make of what Spencer is doing right now?
[06:01:15] He's running ads that he's getting a lot of attention for.
[06:01:19] a lot of republicans around the country who don't live in Los Angeles and can't vote for
[06:01:22] him are endorsing him. What do you think of his chances to actually win in a deeply blue city?
[06:01:27] I think Spencer Pratt could be the next mayor of Los Angeles, and I'll tell you why. The last time
[06:01:32] a reality television star who was politically incorrect ran for office, he ended up all the way
[06:01:39] at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. And Spencer Pratt is reminding me of the saying, first thing.
[06:01:44] Oh my God.
[06:01:50] More of this, please, yes.
[06:01:53] Keep reminding people in Los Angeles that Spencer Pratt is just like Donald Trump.
[06:01:58] No, definitely.
[06:02:03] It's so funny because I made that comparison, knowing full well that that was something that
[06:02:12] but devastate his chances in L.A.
[06:02:15] No, you and then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
[06:02:19] He has all the makings.
[06:02:20] I don't even have to use the Donald Trump example.
[06:02:22] He has the charisma of Mum Donnie, AOC, Trump.
[06:02:26] He has that outsider anti-establishment energy and he is good at harnessing attention.
[06:02:32] He is running, tactically speaking, a very nimble, agile, smart campaign.
[06:02:37] I can tell that campaign is not being governed by committee.
[06:02:39] I guess it's a very small team of five to six people who just like Trump in 2016 are
[06:02:44] able to move a lot faster than bloated political consultant type campaigns.
[06:02:49] And Spencer, people are saying they don't like his politically correct comments.
[06:02:54] So in the debate the other night, people said he was offensive maybe when he was suggesting
[06:02:58] that Nithya Raman Goh ask people who are homeless under the freeway for treatment, they were
[06:03:03] going to get stabbed in the neck and people were really offended by that.
[06:03:05] Well, guess what?
[06:03:06] In Venice, California today.
[06:03:09] God.
[06:03:17] You want to know what's crazy?
[06:03:18] Nithya Raman could have literally been like, you know, that's wild that you're saying that
[06:03:23] because I'm the only person on this stage that has actually done that.
[06:03:29] And I did it in my district and it was an unbelievably successful initiative where I
[06:03:33] I went and actually talked to the homeless population and we were able to convince many
[06:03:39] of them to get permanent shelter and permanent housing and she didn't and she didn't even
[06:03:47] say that.
[06:03:48] It's literally her strongest, it's her strongest fucking thing.
[06:03:53] It's her thing that she could talk about how she successfully like directly with her,
[06:04:00] like with her entire district, she went and she engaged in, did you go to yourself to
[06:04:13] support the initiative?
[06:04:14] No, I hate the homeless as you guys know famously.
[06:04:19] It's ironic because I did actually work with Nithya at the time.
[06:04:49] She's a, she was a DSA pick. So yeah, I did.
[06:04:58] What are you snarling there?
[06:05:00] Some teriyaki chicken.
[06:05:06] Hey, we had a man get his arm sliced off with a samurai sword.
[06:05:09] So Spencer Pratt, it looks like is way more in touch with reality than the rest of the candidates on that stage.
[06:05:14] Quickly Brian, that's on Spencer.
[06:05:16] What could possibly go wrong with a long-time reality star who speaks bluntly knows how to gain the media and decides that he wants to be a politician?
[06:05:24] Look, I think that that would actually-
[06:05:25] What are you to lose, Brian?
[06:05:26] I think that that would actually carry more weight if Donald Trump's approval rating wasn't what it is right now and if he wasn't, you know, basically exposed as a con artist for promising to be this populist champion and instead, you know, prices are higher for everybody, health care is cut, food assistance has been cut, and we're spending, God knows how many billions of dollars per month.
[06:05:45] many billions of dollars per day on a war in the Middle East that he promised would never
[06:05:47] happen well in the next few weeks.
[06:05:49] Yeah.
[06:05:50] Yeah, this is like, this is like Brian Tyler Crowe's ultra-instinct moment.
[06:05:56] You bring up Trump, his eyes light up.
[06:06:00] Like, have fun with your losing argument.
[06:06:06] You just went to the number one anti-Trump guy.
[06:06:10] You closem the ult.
[06:06:13] Literally, this is it. This is like the thing that he does best, okay? He went on stage
[06:06:23] and you decided to compare an LA mayoral candidate to Donald Trump in front of the number one
[06:06:29] anti-Trump slop guy. I mean, he does, he does good work too for the record. I'm just saying
[06:06:35] sometimes it borders in on slop territory with the anti-trump shit.
[06:06:45] And he is, I am, like I said, 100% in support of and 100% backing him to the health on the
[06:06:50] redistricting shit. But this is his, this is, you know, you entered his domain.
[06:06:56] at least not David Pagman. I mean, yeah, he's not, he's not, he does a lot of good dude.
[06:07:05] I don't know. I mean, I look, I shit on chorus and stuff. I've been very critical of chorus
[06:07:10] and Brian does not fuck with me at all any longer. He hates that I've like criticized
[06:07:14] chorus quite a bit, but fair is fair. I think he does really good work as well. We might
[06:07:21] not always a lot at everything, but
[06:07:46] a destiny orbiter. I don't, I didn't even know that, but it wouldn't surprise me. A lot of these guys love destiny.
[06:07:56] I think it's maybe because they, they also do debates and stuff and he, they love them. They seem
[06:08:01] as like a debate God. And there's also some ideological agreements there too.
[06:08:06] Why are you sending me Instagram videos? Why am I clicking on these Instagram videos? I'm not
[06:08:18] clicking on these Instagram videos. How long do you think they they stop bringing you up in
[06:08:28] every argument TV? It's not going to stop. I think this is who's orbiting who one person is on
[06:08:35] And then the others in litigation for spreading CSAM true. That's actually a really good point. No, they just like
[06:08:42] they usually these guys do have like a lot of
[06:08:45] loyalty for
[06:08:47] sex past any I don't know if he does
[06:08:54] Some of them do
[06:08:57] But that is a good counter that is a good point. Yeah, they're just like friendly they're in the you know
[06:09:02] No, we hate Trump coalition, which seemingly I'm not in.
[06:09:12] Even though I fucking hate Trump.
[06:09:15] We will be talking to all the leading candidates for LA mayor, including Spencer Pratt here
[06:09:22] on the story is.
[06:09:24] But for now, thanks to Caroline and Brian, we could keep going all night, but at some
[06:09:27] point we got to stop.
[06:09:28] Thank you guys both for being here.
[06:09:30] We appreciate it.
[06:09:31] Coming up.
[06:09:32] One of the weirdest thing is the.
[06:09:37] Yeah, Brian, cook their ass.
[06:09:42] The media is trying to make you into Farrakhan.
[06:09:45] There's a difference, buddy.
[06:09:52] I am the media.
[06:09:55] That's a big difference like.
[06:09:57] Faris on Farakon has his sermons and stuff
[06:10:02] But he doesn't have like a like a robust media presence. I do
[06:10:11] So even if all these other media hours are constantly chirping
[06:10:16] And and it you know and it causes people to be like yeah, maybe this guy is bad or some
[06:10:23] There's still plenty of people who see that shitting go who the fuck is this a song guy?
[06:10:26] Let me go check them out.
[06:10:48] I do think that the Republicans are dumb enough to sincerely advance the fuck-a-song cause
[06:11:05] as a what they perceive to be a reliable line of attack.
[06:11:16] It's not even.
[06:11:18] I think a big part of the reason why they're doing it right now is because of Zoran, where they foolishly think I was like, unbelievably helpful in Zoran's victory, when that's obviously not the case, but they think that I think.
[06:11:48] In fact, here I sit on one side of my street and my neighbors across the street are in
[06:12:03] a different district.
[06:12:04] I mean, my base player in my band is across the street and he's in a different district
[06:12:11] than me.
[06:12:12] The people that will end up doing either of these two districts, they're probably not
[06:12:18] going to be representative of the people in the neighborhood because the people in the
[06:12:24] neighborhood do not look like them.
[06:12:28] What I do not like about redistricting is that it's faithful people's boy.
[06:12:35] You tell me because I'm in another district and my representation lives two hours away
[06:12:41] that is less concerned about the streets or or crime in my area.
[06:12:46] You have to be a part of that community in order to speak for that community.
[06:12:51] This is a 65% African American citizen.
[06:12:55] So if you allow voting to be driven by citizens who make up a community, then you are allowing
[06:13:07] for black people to have representation attempts to challenge that are not just constitutionally
[06:13:17] in question. They're morally corrupt.
[06:13:23] The people that we vote for have failed us. They're listening to people that don't really
[06:13:31] know these people and don't care to know them.
[06:13:36] with our national lead the rise of anti-Semitism across
[06:13:43] uncovered the planet cancel Hassan
[06:13:46] it's america republican congressman mike lawler of new york and democratic congressman
[06:13:50] josh gothammer of new jersey have introduced a new resolution that came with the fuck we're watching
[06:13:54] we're watching we're watching the young turks on the bros the surging district distribution of
[06:14:00] hateful anti-Semitic rhetoric and content at the hands of prominent online personalities
[06:14:06] Congressman, welcome to the show.
[06:14:11] So this is a perfect establishment segment.
[06:14:15] You've got establishment media and CNN and Jay Tapper is a perfect symbol of it.
[06:14:19] Then you've got establishment Republican and Michael Lawler and establishment Democrat
[06:14:23] and Josh Godheimer.
[06:14:25] The Uniparty has assembled and they are here to tell you bow your head to Israel.
[06:14:33] That is so weird.
[06:14:34] I thought for a second there, they might be like, hey, you know what, maybe the war's
[06:14:37] not going well.
[06:14:38] God, Heimer's theoretically a Democrat, Jake Tapper's theoretically a journalist, and
[06:14:41] they were gonna have a conversation about, hey, should we keep listening to Israel as
[06:14:47] they drive us into disastrous wars?
[06:14:49] No, it turns out they found out the real problem.
[06:14:53] Hassan, Piper, and Candace Owens, all the guys who died in the Iran war, the civilians
[06:14:58] that are on our service members, the 400 billion apparently, we're gonna have to spend those
[06:15:02] Not a problem.
[06:15:04] The real problem is two naughty people in this country who have said things that have upset
[06:15:10] Israelis.
[06:15:11] How dare they?
[06:15:12] They should be sanctioned.
[06:15:13] So they've actually introduced resolution, not to stop the war, God forbid, okay?
[06:15:21] But to condemn Hassan and Canvas.
[06:15:24] So let me read you from the resolution and we'll go back to some of these clips because
[06:15:26] they're amazing.
[06:15:29] They say, whereas the rise of digital media platforms has enabled individuals with large
[06:15:34] audiences to disseminate disinformation, wink, wink, commentary and political viewpoints
[06:15:39] to millions of viewers worldwide.
[06:15:40] Okay, let's pause it cuz that's so funny.
[06:15:42] They're like, whereas the truth is getting out online and we have to stop it.
[06:15:46] We have to-
[06:15:47] Look at the car on genocide glazers.
[06:15:49] Israel first reps discussed censorship resolution.
[06:15:51] As a resolution, could that be anyone online saying the truth?
[06:15:54] Whereas we used to control the mainstream media like this segment, you're about to watch
[06:15:58] with Jake Topper and they were good little boys and girls and always told you that Israel
[06:16:02] was the victim.
[06:16:03] Now these rabble rousers online are telling you the truth, we're gonna have to condemn
[06:16:08] it, okay?
[06:16:09] Second part of the resolution, whereas such influence carries a heightened responsibility
[06:16:13] to avoid rhetoric that promotes hatred, violence, or discrimination against any group, including
[06:16:19] Jewish individuals and communities.
[06:16:22] Wait, does that include Muslim communities or Armenian communities?
[06:16:28] Because if you wanted to condemn someone spreading hatred and rhetoric that might lead to violence,
[06:16:35] good news.
[06:16:36] There's one right next to you, your colleague Randy Fine.
[06:16:39] Well, to be fair, Josh Gottheimer himself was also engaged in some Islamophobic sentiment
[06:16:48] in the past.
[06:16:50] several occasions that we should murder everyone in Gaza, 2.2 million people.
[06:16:56] One time he said we should drop a nuclear bomb and kill them all.
[06:16:59] Another time he said we should starve them all to death, millions of people starve them
[06:17:04] to death.
[06:17:06] That is borderline, not borderline, that is literally what the Nazis said, right?
[06:17:10] They just couldn't find a way to condemn him.
[06:17:13] I mean, he doesn't have any power, he's not online, okay?
[06:17:17] Okay, I mean, it's just a poor little congressman, but why did I mention Armenian communities recently representative Randy Fine said that no
[06:17:24] Armenian should be allowed to run for office
[06:17:28] What okay, so why because Dan Bilzerian is running against him and he's Armenian plus
[06:17:34] Armenians are in southern Lebanon and the Armenian militias fighting back against Israel's invasion of Lebanon
[06:17:40] So no that's it now the Armenians are canceled to
[06:17:43] Gee, I wonder why they don't like our network, with me and Anna, it's, but weird, they couldn't
[06:17:52] find a way to condemn him.
[06:17:54] No, what is the importance, including Jewish individuals and communities, the most important
[06:17:59] thing in the whole wide world, okay.
[06:18:01] Now should you condemn anti-semitism?
[06:18:03] Of course you should.
[06:18:05] Should you do like 208 resolutions as they have in Congress, over and over again, condemn
[06:18:10] We got it dude. We hate it. We don't want it. I got it. Nope. Nope. Never enough. Never enough. No, it's not to cover up Israel's war crimes and distract you and
[06:18:25] Not to be off topic, but I proved that you were the first one to notice the Charlie Kirk and Michael Appelbaum
[06:18:31] Sometimes they're just strategically comment the same thing and the time it so it winds up in your screen in between bites
[06:18:40] Congratulations, Chatter.
[06:19:10] You did it, I noticed it.
[06:19:13] Make it seem like Israel supporters are the victims, they're the victims, right?
[06:19:19] No, no, it's because this is the most important issue in the country.
[06:19:22] So let me keep going.
[06:19:23] Whereas anti-Semitism has surged in the United States and globally in recent years, fueled
[06:19:27] in part by online disinformation, conspiracy theories, and extremist rhetoric.
[06:19:33] So what does that mean?
[06:19:35] They call disinformation when you say that Israel's committed a genocide.
[06:19:38] They're like, no, we didn't murder every Palestinian.
[06:19:42] So that doesn't count.
[06:19:43] No, that's a Holocaust.
[06:19:44] A genocide is targeting a group in whole war in part.
[06:19:48] 86% of genocide scholars say that it's a genocide.
[06:19:52] But when you say they're like spreading disinformation, how dare you oppose Israel?
[06:19:56] Wait, I thought this was about Jewish people.
[06:19:58] Because I love Jewish people.
[06:19:59] I got Jewish family, I got Jewish friends.
[06:20:03] Almost everyone I've supported a president in the last 10 years, well, it's only been
[06:20:08] No, not one. I supported Bernie Sanders and then I supported Josh Shapiro for Vice President
[06:20:13] for Kamala Harris. But, bro, that was a mistake. You were wrong about that.
[06:20:22] No, no, no, no. Not good enough. You have to kiss Israel's ass. Okay, got you. Yeah, sure, sure,
[06:20:30] so the resolution goes on list comments, naughty, naughty comments that Hasan and
[06:20:35] And Candice is made, although on air, they lied about what Hassan said, we'll get back
[06:20:39] to that in a second.
[06:20:41] So but it calls for action.
[06:20:43] Is a sense of the House of Representatives, that social media and streaming platforms
[06:20:48] should take appropriate steps to enforce their policies against hate speech and prevent
[06:20:53] the spread of anti-Semitic content.
[06:20:56] In other words, they should cancel everyone who disagrees with Israel.
[06:21:01] Because there isn't anything you could say about Israel that Jake Tapper, Mike Lawler
[06:21:04] and Josh Gottheimer wouldn't call anti-Semitic.
[06:21:08] They killed 23,000 kids.
[06:21:09] Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
[06:21:11] Is it true?
[06:21:12] Yeah, it's true, but shut up.
[06:21:14] You know what to say.
[06:21:15] That's it.
[06:21:16] We love the monopoly we have in mainstream media.
[06:21:19] No one's allowed to disagree with Israel.
[06:21:21] No one's allowed to call it a genocide.
[06:21:23] These rascals online, they're letting people see the Palestinian kids we murdered with
[06:21:28] their own eyes.
[06:21:29] Now they could see Gaza's completely and utterly destroyed. Remember how we had Jake Tapper and
[06:21:33] all our dogs in mainstream media pretend to hold a hospital, right in the beginning of
[06:21:39] the conflict in Gaza. Israel would never hit a hospital. You're all anti-Semites, right?
[06:21:48] Does he always yell this much? Yes, on camera. You guys don't know shaky Gergo?
[06:21:54] Why can't you cover the news like this? He's mocking you, bro. I mean, he's
[06:21:57] He's a shaky Gerga, man.
[06:22:00] He's always been like this.
[06:22:19] Jank gets like this every story.
[06:22:21] It's amazing.
[06:22:22] Yeah.
[06:22:27] I was taking me back to college when I only literally watched TYT for news and then they
[06:22:32] Yeah, he's been like this for 20 years.
[06:22:36] The one time he wasn't was your 821.
[06:22:39] Yeah.
[06:22:40] The one time where he wasn't going like that was when I said what I said about America deserving
[06:22:45] certain things.
[06:22:46] He was very calm in that conversation.
[06:22:51] he was upset at me. Can't believe Jankett has stayed on MSNBC. Oh, don't get him started.
[06:23:04] That's when that's when he got banned off of like all mainstream media outlets.
[06:23:09] When someone clicks on a YouTube video, there's a, okay, I, uh, I want to watch this whole
[06:23:14] a video. Professor in air quotes, Chong's bizarre education. To be fair, I don't like
[06:23:22] the start of it because he says professor in air quotes, that's a real professor. Professor
[06:23:26] Chong is a real professor.
[06:23:27] Next expectation that comes with it. Maybe someone is expecting a music video or a cute
[06:23:32] clip of a cat. But if there's a guy standing in front of a blackboard with the title of
[06:23:36] a lecture underneath it, you're expecting something educational. All you really have
[06:23:41] to go on is the aesthetic of an educator, but it primes you to think you're about to learn something.
[06:23:46] In 1973, the Journal of Medical Education published a paper titled,
[06:23:50] The Dr. Fox Lecture, A Paradigm of Educational Seduction,
[06:23:54] by Naftalin Ware and Donnelly. It details a study where an actor was hired to play a fictional
[06:23:59] professor named Dr. Fox. The actor was trained to give a completely
[06:24:11] vacuous lecture that had all the aesthetic hallmarks of a real lecture, dressed in the
[06:24:15] part being giving phony credentials and using rhetoric that had the appearance of academic
[06:24:20] rigor with none of the actual content.
[06:24:22] Audiences were captivated by the actor not because he had anything of value to say, but
[06:24:26] because of the educationally themed aesthetic he used to present it.
[06:24:29] The title of Dr. Fox's lecture was Mathematical Game Theory as applied to physician education,
[06:24:35] and in 2026 we have a new fake professor lecturing his audience using game theory.
[06:24:40] Jiang Chuxin, or Professor Jiang, as he's often called and refers to himself, is not an actual professor.
[06:24:46] No! No! No!
[06:24:51] Nonsense!
[06:24:55] How dare you, Jose! No way, Jose!
[06:25:02] Not my Professor Jiang!
[06:25:04] A high school teacher at Moonshot Academy in Beijing.
[06:25:07] A few years back, he began uploading his lectures to YouTube under the channel titled Predictive History.
[06:25:13] Recently, his channel began to take off after some of his claims went viral,
[06:25:17] and his lectures are now getting hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions of views.
[06:25:21] The three predictions he made in 2024 that put him on the map were that
[06:25:25] Donald Trump would win the 2024 election, President Trump would then invade Iran,
[06:25:29] and that the US would lose that war.
[06:25:31] What's up with the Jose Mike situation?
[06:25:34] why does it sound like it's coming from deep, coming from somewhere deep, his voice.
[06:25:42] You feel me? It's like I'm starting to think China kicked them out because he's a crank. No,
[06:25:49] they didn't. No, they did not.
[06:25:55] The professor has just been elevated to the Dean of the Moonshine Academy.
[06:25:58] Professor Zhang is exactly the type of guy that Uncle Jeng would defend by the way, I think.
[06:26:06] I could totally see Uncle Shaky Garga defending Professor Zhang being like,
[06:26:12] he's a prominent fixture. He's a pillar in the pro-Palestinian movement.
[06:26:18] The fact that Jiang is not a real professor gets overstated a bit because YouTube is not
[06:26:32] a space where people typically check things like credentials or even sources.
[06:26:36] What matters is that Jiang-
[06:26:37] Your sarcasm is confusing me.
[06:26:39] How do you actually feel about this guy?
[06:26:41] One of the most important thinkers of the 21st century, as soon as a crackpot conspiracies
[06:26:52] and theories, but his fourth dimensional mind of thinking.
[06:26:55] As the aesthetic of a professor and is committed to the performance of teaching, creating the
[06:27:01] impression that his YouTube videos are educational, I'd like to take a closer look to what that
[06:27:05] education actually entails.
[06:27:08] How to predict geopolitical events is not a likely course for high school students,
[06:27:13] and that probably isn't the name of the class Jiang actually teaches.
[06:27:16] According to his profile on the Moonshot Academy website, he teaches Western Philosophy.
[06:27:20] But he only has the BA in English lit.
[06:27:29] What does this have to do with Western Philosophy?
[06:27:32] What is what he's talking about?
[06:27:33] What does what he's talking about have to do with Western Philosophy?
[06:27:36] I guess he's like Western philosophy is all about being a fronkist, a cannibalistic pedophile,
[06:27:43] overlords, and America going to war with Iran, and then simultaneously losing said war, causing
[06:27:54] packs Islamica and packs Judaica to take root.
[06:27:57] A year long survey course that introduces students to the major ideas and books of Western civilization.
[06:28:03] On YouTube, these are broken up into several different sets of videos, including game theory,
[06:28:07] secret history and great books.
[06:28:09] The predictions that made young famous, Trump's win the war with Iran and its failure, are
[06:28:13] emblematic of his work.
[06:28:15] Taken in small bite-sized shareable bits, it's somewhat compelling, but when you take
[06:28:19] a closer look, things start to fall apart very quickly.
[06:28:22] Princeton's looking at his prediction that Trump would win, also includes a prediction
[06:28:25] about his running mate.
[06:28:26] It's very likely that Trump will become president of the United States again
[06:28:31] in November and he will pick Nikki Haley as
[06:28:37] his
[06:28:38] VP
[06:28:39] To be fair to Jiang he does mention JD Vance in the video where he first makes this prediction
[06:28:44] But only at the very end does he briefly consider him a possibility
[06:28:47] But what makes the Haley prediction especially bad is that almost a week prior to Jiang posting this video
[06:28:53] titled by Trump will win and pick Nikki Haley as VP.
[06:28:57] Trump posted this on TruthSocial.
[06:29:00] Nikki Haley is not under consideration for the VP slot,
[06:29:03] but I wish her well, DJT.
[06:29:05] His prediction about the war in Iran
[06:29:07] was similarly filled with things that didn't happen,
[06:29:09] such as the US being part of an international coalition.
[06:29:13] And Trump?
[06:29:13] Dude, I love his predictions, dude.
[06:29:16] It's awesome.
[06:29:18] I do wonder like what it is about Professor Jiang
[06:29:21] that is catnip for so many people.
[06:29:27] Cause like, I mean, no one is supposed to be 100%, right?
[06:29:32] No one makes 100% predictions.
[06:29:34] I certainly have made some very wrong predictions, right?
[06:29:37] And I'm pretty open about it.
[06:29:41] But like, is it the whiteboard?
[06:29:45] Is it the accent?
[06:29:47] Like, I think there's something to it
[06:29:49] where there's this holistic picture
[06:29:54] that is unbelievably compelling.
[06:29:57] Maybe it's the way he says, okay, after every statement.
[06:30:01] Like, I think there's maybe like an orientalist approach here
[06:30:04] where they see like an Asian wise man,
[06:30:06] wise beyond his years with a whiteboard.
[06:30:09] And that's the reason why people are just like,
[06:30:13] oh, this guy has like deep insight.
[06:30:16] When in fact, a lot of the stuff he says is really funny
[06:30:18] because it reminds me of just Unks in that side of the world.
[06:30:23] Not just Asian Unks, but Arab Unks do this too.
[06:30:30] Of course, it doesn't hit the same
[06:30:31] because Americans and Westerners don't usually perceive
[06:30:34] Arabs to be wise beyond their years.
[06:30:39] And I mean, that's why I think the Orientalism
[06:30:41] works in his favor in this circumstance.
[06:30:43] But, like, he is literally like a, like an Arab taxi driver, like, in the, in the shit
[06:30:51] that he says.
[06:30:52] Like, some of it is very compelling, some of it is absolutely truthful, very good, comprehensive
[06:30:57] analysis, and then the rest of it is just hulk'em, where you're like, how did you arrive
[06:31:04] at this?
[06:31:05] Like, this is an insane thing.
[06:31:06] How can you believe both of these things at the same time?
[06:31:14] Goes on TV.
[06:31:16] He announces Operation Iranian Freedom, a full-scale US invasion of Iran, along with Israel, Saudi
[06:31:27] Arabia as its main partners, but the United Kingdom, UK will be involved, Australia will
[06:31:34] be involved.
[06:31:35] The United States only had Israel as an ally when this war began.
[06:31:42] The failure of the U.S.'s invasion of Iran seems likely at the moment, but I suspect
[06:31:46] it won't go down the way H.N.
[06:31:48] predicts it will.
[06:31:49] A massive invasion force is sent to Iran in the south.
[06:31:55] Hundred thousand U.S. troops land, maybe 200,000 Saudi Arabia troops land, okay?
[06:32:01] that you fit the soldiers but they're not what they really are
[06:32:08] 200 000 Saudi Arabian troops
[06:32:14] did he did he just say 200 000 Saudi Arabian troops
[06:32:19] How big is the Saudi military?
[06:32:43] The total number of the Saudi military troops
[06:32:47] troops with active personnel strength, right? So this means like, not just like people that
[06:32:53] are, you know, not just people that are going to be holding the guns like total is 247,000
[06:33:01] to 282,000. This means support positions. This means janitors. Okay. So how do you rabia
[06:33:13] does not have 200,000 troops. Oh, he said 20,000 hostage troops land. Okay. US troops
[06:33:24] land, maybe 200,000 Saudi Arabia troops land. Okay. Okay. He didn't say 20,000. No, he did
[06:33:32] not say he said he said 200,000. Why? Why are people saying no, he said 20,000? What
[06:33:45] What the fuck's going on? Are you guys fucking with me?
[06:34:06] Am I being gaslit by Professor Jong fans or am I being
[06:34:10] Or am I being gaslit by people who are larking as Professor Zhang fans for fun?
[06:34:27] It's not that big of a deal how much of a difference can one zero make first of all
[06:34:31] Saudi Arabia is not sending any troops to Iran anyway
[06:34:34] But if he if he's out here saying Saudi Arabia is gonna bring 200,000 troops
[06:34:40] That is a fundamental lack of knowledge, about what the Saudi military capabilities truly are.
[06:34:50] Okay?
[06:34:52] So that's why it's like a, it's an insane thing. It's like saying America is going to deploy
[06:34:57] 3 million troops to Iran, to invade Iran.
[06:35:00] Okay?
[06:35:06] You think they're soldiers, but they're not. What they really are hostages.
[06:35:10] You have too many people in the country, so you can't get in the other country,
[06:35:14] but you don't have enough people to actually launch a strike against Parat.
[06:35:17] You can't resupply them, and they've been encircled by Iranian forces.
[06:35:23] This is all in the future, though, so perhaps they will send 100,000 troops into Iraq,
[06:35:28] only to see them stranded and become hostages. I'm a bit skeptical of that one, though.
[06:35:32] This is a pattern that holds pretty regularly when watching Jiang's commentary.
[06:35:36] Predictions and sometimes conclusions can sound sensible or compelling when you look at them from a distance without much detail or specificity.
[06:35:44] But when you get a closer look at how you-
[06:35:46] Are you saying we should include support positions in troop estimates?
[06:35:50] No, when someone says they're bringing the 200,000 troops, they're talking about a ground invasion.
[06:35:56] And the ground invasion does not factor in the entirety.
[06:36:00] The generals are not counted in the fucking ground of it. The janitor, the janitorial staff is not counted.
[06:36:06] Saudi Arabia's total troop number, like the total estimated strength,
[06:36:12] with his entire personnel,
[06:36:15] is not just armed combatants.
[06:36:19] Like, here I'll give you an example of the United States of America. Okay? The United States of America has a massive military, right?
[06:36:26] Let's what is it? What's the number now? United States total I'm typing with one hand total military
[06:36:40] Yeah, the United States
[06:36:44] No, not aircraft fuck um the US approximately has
[06:36:49] 2.81 million total personnel worldwide
[06:36:52] Okay, 1.3 million is active duty troops and over 700,000 National Guard reserves.
[06:37:01] But the problem here is not all of those people, not all of those people are, I mean, AI, but
[06:37:09] I mean here, okay, Wikipedia.
[06:37:18] a big chunk of that, a percentage of that, is always going to be support staff, okay?
[06:37:35] They're not going to be holding a weapon and shooting a weapon.
[06:37:39] like when they when you look at a total number of of service members in the
[06:37:47] United States military that total number is not the amount of people I'm I'm a
[06:37:52] numbers guy we can rock it I'm a numbers guy and what a lot of people don't
[06:38:02] understand I was in the military I was in the military and at first I thought
[06:38:08] everybody in the military is shooting with a gun. And I groked it. I said, let's grok it.
[06:38:38] Please don't tell me you got numbers perversion that's even worse than being a debate pervert, Ankh.
[06:38:47] The US Combat Support Staff, the Tuesday-Tale Ratio, generally queues 3 to 10 personnel for every one front-line warfighter,
[06:38:53] providing crucial logistics, medical intelligence, and maintenance services with ratios increasing in complex modern operations.
[06:38:59] Thank you.
[06:39:00] You don't just grok at the shit you chat you Pt it to I just I grok did I chat you Pt it is it turns out a
[06:39:16] Lot of those guys are not holding the guns
[06:39:49] And there are also predictions that seem completely ridiculous, like this one.
[06:39:54] If you know game theory, and you understand the principles that we've learned today,
[06:39:58] then you're forced to include that in East Asia, North Korea has a better future than China.
[06:40:03] To understand what drives someone to say that-
[06:40:05] What?!
[06:40:07] What?!
[06:40:09] Bro!
[06:40:10] Yo, this is my shit.
[06:40:12] He says such insane stuff, like when he said that the real global superpowers
[06:40:18] that are going to be popping off as Germany and Israel?
[06:40:22] With Korea as a brighter future than China, we have to get into the nitty-gritty of how he constructs his predictions.
[06:40:29] One of the major keys to understanding Jung's theories is that they are, above all else, narratives.
[06:40:35] Although he makes references to theoretical models and historical patterns, they always exist in the same structure of a narrative.
[06:40:41] Narratives exist to explain most of how we see the world,
[06:40:44] the world, but Jiang uses concepts like game theory to give them all an academic vibe.
[06:40:49] For those unfamiliar with game theory, it is described
[06:40:52] A mathematical theory about how decisions are made in situations where one person's
[06:40:57] decision affects another. It is used in many fields such as economics, psychology, and biology.
[06:41:04] How did you use game theory to game out that the juxia is the superior ideology as opposed to malism?
[06:41:11] or is socialism with Chinese characteristics?
[06:41:16] Because I really want to fucking know how he game that shit out.
[06:41:20] Wang has a number of lectures supposedly covering game theory,
[06:41:23] though his use of game theory is a lot like the title of Professor.
[06:41:27] It's one that serves to confer legitimacy to a narrative rather than actually educating people.
[06:41:32] Although I'm not an expert in game theory myself,
[06:41:35] his lectures don't really conform with the definition I just read
[06:41:38] or other examples I found while researching this video.
[06:41:41] According to Chiang, understanding what he calls Game Theory will make his students better people,
[06:41:45] help them understand the world, and provide the tools to make predictions.
[06:41:49] Chiang's use of Game Theory is used to describe a dynamic the players involved,
[06:41:53] their motivators, and then their reactions, typically grounded in a concrete example.
[06:41:58] Or at least that would be the goal if his lectures were strictly about Game Theory.
[06:42:02] What often follows instead in his lecture is a series of assumptions that spiral out of control.
[06:42:07] In his first lecture on game theory he provides the example of a dating game where five boys and five girls won.
[06:42:12] Okay, I have to continue this video tomorrow because I have to go.
[06:42:16] Uh, I have an event that I must attend.
[06:42:21] Um,
[06:42:28] It's like the uh, I'm going to this like thing that's like the chinese magala. It's not the magala, but it's uh
[06:42:34] They're not Chinese. Why am I saying Chinese? It's like the Asian awards. I forget what it's called.
[06:42:40] I got Professor Zhang in my mind. I got Professor Zhang in predictive history on my mind. I can't
[06:43:01] get it out of my mind, which is very exciting. I'm also, I don't know if I should wear the
[06:43:11] Zhong Shan suit, because like they say you need to get like, you know, it's it's an event
[06:43:18] to celebrate like Asian tailoring as well in the red carpet. And I want to wear it because
[06:43:24] it's like it's a Zhong Shan suit, but I'm a little worried that people are going to get
[06:43:27] mad at it because of the because of the color of it they're gonna be like oh
[06:43:31] you're doing you know you're larping you wear that a lot freshen up with a new
[06:43:36] look
[06:43:41] don't do it if I don't do that I'm just gonna wear something like probably gonna
[06:43:47] wear a yoji or some shit yeah don't lark it's not a lark man it's not I fucking
[06:43:54] love that suit and I have more coming.
[06:44:18] custom fit from a literal Asian Taylor in Shanghai. Yeah.
[06:44:24] As a Chinese man, I give you permission.
[06:44:29] The Taylor said only for special stuff. Yeah. But I wear it probably too often.
[06:44:39] Wasn't that Sue? The designer appeared on stream to deliver for y'all. Do it bro.
[06:44:43] You already all be inflamed.
[06:44:48] It's a little tight on you now, not gonna lie, what the fuck?
[06:44:57] What the fuck, that's crazy.
[06:45:03] Bro, you're, some of you are, some of you are insane.
[06:45:11] It's literally not but also what a rude fucking thing to say imagine if that was the case that'd be crazy rude to say
[06:45:21] that's so yeah you look like your brother burst of the scenes okay week off or
[06:45:39] ban what are we thinking 57 month subscriber what are we thinking damn
[06:45:50] Everybody wants you gone Evan Crozier. I'll give you a week off
[06:45:57] All right, that'll be all
[06:46:07] I'll be off for today
[06:46:11] I'll be back tomorrow inshallah
[06:46:14] With more professor John
[06:46:20] Okay. Peace everybody.
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