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VANCOUVER🤬TRUMP-->CHINA🤬TALKING TO GABOR MATE LATER!🤬EF DAY 75🤬STRAIT: CLOSED🤬NYT IOF RpE REPORT
05-13-2026 · 4h 41m
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What's going on, everybody?
I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening after and for you, no matter where you are
in the world.
and these thoughts and our broadcast comes to you live from gloomy Vancouver, British
Columbia, Canada. It's gloomy here in Vancouver, Canada. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm in the land
of the free, the real land of the free, the home of the brave. Audio levels might be a
a little bit low, I apologize because the microphone is actually far away from my mouth.
And therefore, I don't know if you'll be able to hear me. It's chaotic here.
It's chaotic here. I'll get right into it. This is the part of the broadcast where I tell you
about my personal news about what's going on. I couldn't find a bag of milk, but I did find
And no bag milk for me, but what I did find was a carton of milk.
Northern Lions said on the stream, you're staying at his house?
Why did he out me?
It's true, I'm staying in Northern Lions' house.
This is it, this is Northern Lions' home.
Yeah, he lives in an incredible, an incredible home.
So nice.
It's also beautiful outside.
It's very gloomy here, but it's beautiful out here.
It looks like a hotel.
I thought it was strange.
I'll be honest, I thought it was strange
that Northern Lion chose to
basically design his entire home
after like a very famous hotel chain.
I don't know why he did that, but he did it regardless anyway. So you guys caught me. It's sunny in California, but it's actually very do me and glue me here
In van
Cooper British Columbia
Ladies and gentlemen
I'm live I'm alive. I'm here to fight back against the separatists the Alberta separatist movement. I
Am your guy. Okay. I'm your guy
Anyway, this is a part of the broadcast where I tell you all about my personal news about what's going on in the world of a son house and I'll be piker in between the time period where I press the stop, shoo button and press the start streaming button. So help me God. That's what I'm going to do.
And as far as personal news goes, we're also on obviously stolen land. We're also on stolen land.
stolen land. Before I forget, we're in Canada, which is not only stolen indigenous land,
but also it's stolen indigenous land where they openly recognize that it's stolen indigenous
land. Avi Lewis collab collab when probably not happening anytime soon. I was supposed
to link up with Naomi as well, but I'm not here for a long enough time for that to happen.
So hold on, I'm going to deal with this curtain a little bit.
One second.
God damn it.
Thank you.
a little bit better. I think, um, anyway, yeah, it's gloomy here. It's a 56 degrees
in cloudy here with highs at 63 and lows at 54. It's raining when I first got in and
Yeah, it was one of those things we're like.
I mean, I'm not even going to be.
I'm not spending too much time in Vancouver. Unfortunately.
I don't have enough time to even hang out with.
What part to come back more cake.
Are you guys staring at my ass Josh got Heimer is calling you out again this time on newsman. He's got no motion. I know.
I know so I'm here for.
For personal news wise, this is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news about what's going on in the world of the sound house. I'm a piker in between the time period where I press the stock room button and press the stock room button. So, oh my God, that's what I'm going to do.
And as far as personal news goes, I, I ended the broadcast yesterday.
I ended the broadcast yesterday and what did I do?
I went to bed.
I went to bed early, hung up on my mom a little bit and I went to bed because I had to wake
up super early.
I had to wake up at 4 a.m. and get on a flight and get over here to Vancouver.
And I'll say, if you remember, I talked about how it was baddie central at the airport,
Vancouver Airport this time, not so much, I will admit. It pains me to admit that, but
it was not exactly Batty Central at the airport this time. It was not like Valorant-Couver,
you know, because before it was Valorant-Couver, right? It's like a Valorant lobby.
All of the the Border Patrol were baddies.
But this time, not so much.
It's okay though. I still love the city. It's so beautiful.
It's the coup, making it stink.
Yeah, today's my birthday. Can I get a happy birthday please? Happy birthday chatter.
But what was I going to say?
What was I going to say?
Why are people using you wearing a suit to claim your shoe dog for the Democrats because honestly guys
Because a lot of people are stupid. Like that's it
Like that's it you just
You can't really
You can't really take people seriously
Like just make up your own damn mind on whether or not you feel like there's any veracity to the claims
exercise a little bit of critical thinking
They've run out of shit to attack. I mean think about it this way when they attack Abdul
They're like, oh, he's only a doctor and has a PhD and he's only a Rhodes scholar
He was never a real physician. Like it's the same principle, right?
It's the same damn principle all the time when people run out of shit to attack you with they just make up new
Controversies and those controversies get increasingly dumber and now my my new controversy is that I'm a sheepdog for the Democratic Party because I'm wearing fucking suits, okay?
Like this is what your opponents do
This is what your opponents do when they run out of ammunition when they still want to attack you
but they just got nothing going on.
It is what it is.
You don't have to fucking worry about everything.
Okay, Jeremiah Johnson basically saying,
Abdul should apologize for getting smeared.
I think so too.
I can't tell you how I really feel about what should be done
for these people.
Because obviously I got a lot of attention on me right now
And I don't want to, you know, I don't want to give ammo to my haters, but like, but you, but I'm thinking it, right? I'm thinking about like what I think a lot of these people fucking would get in a just world and adjust universe if we lived in a just world, right?
Because it's just, it's so fucking unbearable.
It's so frustrating.
Yeah, he did a Columbia man called me, a doctor, drobdool.com, obdool for senate, that's
funny that they're trolling. The Pakistan government retweeted a clip of you. Wait,
they did? Well, the page doesn't exist. So I don't even know if that actually happened
or not. I don't know what to believe anymore. Anyway, Pakistan's in the bottom. All right.
So, um, yeah, I, uh, I woke up super early, got on a flight, uh, flew to Vancouver and
got off the flight, left March behind because he, he's going from this to EDC.
So he's like, he has, you know, all this check luggage back there.
And I couldn't even wait cause like his luggage got stopped.
Air Canada has some like weird rules around America to Canada,
to a different location in America, transit where they just like hold your luggage.
I don't know.
There was some issues with his luggage.
He couldn't receive his luggage.
So he was like, bro, you gotta leave without me.
So I just rushed over here to the hodl, got started, took a quick dumpy, and did a stripper shower, right?
Like, this is why I can't watch you as much anymore. I'm in the car with my kids and you said pussy 15 times, killing me, bro.
Buddy if you're in the car with your kids, why are you tweeting? Why are you? Why are you writing and driving? Okay?
But yeah, okay, I'll try not to curse as much okay, I will I will be mindful that you have kids watching I
Apologize
Stop making an image you in imagine you in private situations. I mean, you don't have to imagine it. I'm just telling you what's going on in my life down to like the minutia down to every little thing.
I fell asleep on the plane. So that was good. At least I got a couple more hours of sleep on the flight. I feel somewhat revitalized somewhat energized rushed over here.
immediately put this stuff together and
yeah, censoring my language is actually Democrat Party sheepdog behavior.
But yeah, I also wore a full suit on the flight and I was so tired that I just passed out like this with the full suit.
So if any creep shots come out, it'll be very funny.
But can you speak louder? It's noisy in here at the moment. No, this is as loud as it gets.
What the hell Hassan Abi, I'm driving my stupid step kids right now and you're not cursing
enough for them.
Okay.
Um.
Um.
Cuck chair review.
Sure I'll do a cut chair review in a second.
Uh, Musharraf Zahidi.
The prime minister's spokesperson for foreign media government of Pakistan.
But Sam Piker has a new message for Pakistan.
What the hell, dude?
To the Pakistanis, I say welcome.
Welcome as a Turkish American.
Let me welcome you to being the table, okay?
Pakistan's in the box, but also Pakistan is the table.
And when you are the table, Israel wants to blow up the table, okay?
Luckily, you have nukes, which might be better for you in the long run than having American
nukes in American NATO bases.
Let's be real.
My life for Pakistan.
For the Pakistanis, I say welcome.
Welcome.
as a Turkish American, let me welcome you to being the table, okay?
Pakistan's in the box, but also Pakistan is the table.
And when you are the table, Israel wants to blow up the table, okay?
Luckily, you have nukes.
Bro, what happens in this part of the world where they got, that's a government official
retweeting that. That's so funny. A government official retweeting me saying, hey, Israel
is jealous of the new prominence that Pakistan has found in the global stage. And now they're
threatening to blow you up, but luckily you have nuclear arms as a major deterrent.
And having your own nukes is obviously going to be better. Having your own nukes is obviously going
to be better than, you know, having American nukes inside of NATO bases as far as like
withstanding or as far as creating successful deterrence against Israel, posturing militarily
against you, and it's wild. Am I officially Jackson-Hinkel style in the Bangladesh and
And Pakistani, at least in the Pakistani,
Unk group chats now, is that what it is?
Pat with your suit is Democratic Party Schilling.
Good to know.
He actually is an L subhuman person
using you for propaganda or whatever.
I mean, I don't know anything about this guy.
I don't know anything about the current Pakistani government, but what I will say is this, okay?
I'll take it.
I'll take it. I'll take it. Listen, we don't have a lot of allies everywhere, okay?
You got to take whatever allies you can get.
Anyway, I'm putting my where your dsa Philly hat more
Are you getting jealous dsa chapter is getting jealous the hat makes you look like a democrat shill it says democratic socialists
Anyway
Pelosi soft endorsing connie chan
Yeah, no, I know all of the all of the radical leftists of San Francisco fucking hate
Show you got so much that they're gonna be like no, Nancy Pelosi is actually a queen
And it's a wonderful endorsement. Anyway
We love Pakistan he's just not Pakistan government, but we loved him wrong con
Anyway, all right, all right, all right
If you say free, you'll be in every Pakistani group chat by tomorrow free. Of course, free him, free you.
You gone to declared war with Turkey today. Great.
You shouldn't really wear ties if you want to fit socialist aesthetics.
I love how ties look, but it's really developed as a bourgeois signifier.
Not trying to micromanage you though, do what you want, but at least try it.
That's not true.
I mean, that is true.
You are right.
Of course ties are bourgeois aesthetic.
However, it's however you want to wear it.
kind of fucked up how much love you've shown to BC when Ontario is the one that needs critical
support right now, SMADG, come to Toronto already, TDOT, okay, um, so let's blast off,
blast off and let's get into it. But yeah, I'm here. I'm in Vancouver. I'm basically
Canadian at this point, spiritually. Obviously, if you're in support of socialized medicine,
you automatically, in North America, you're automatically spiritually Canadian. So, you
know we're still going off that. We're still going off that. So you're just
going to brush the past that you caused this fear in with Caroline Kwong from
women. What?
Where was I? Where was I? Where was I? Send me a Chinese EV please. You got it. I
I got you, I got you, fam.
All right, so, I'm in Vancouver, Trump is in China,
talking to Gabor Montelator,
Epstein's Fury Day 75 straight close,
New York Times, Iowa, for Ape Report,
I didn't even get to talk to that.
Talk about that.
More backlash.
My dad asked me a question earlier and I instinctively said, let's rock it. I'm a numbers guy. Okay, good.
Please come do a speaking event in my house. You got it, man.
You got it.
I'm a numbers guy.
I'll be at your house. I'll be at your house. I will love to value. Tain. I value Tain. Anyone. Anybody. Anybody. I value Tain. Anybody.
It doesn't matter to me where you are. Okay. You tell me the address. I say let's rock it. Let's chat. You beat it. And I'll be there. I'll be there. Anybody. Anytime.
any time. Will you be doing a food sampling stream of anchor for food? No, I
won't be. Do we have a Blast off meme chatters?
I'm a numbers guy. Okay. I'm a numbers guy.
Notice this with that suit, tie and beard and capital X, Aglae, Herodine,
Stanton's character in Paris, Texas, right? It's a fit. Yeah, okay. Where were we? Where
were we? Where were we? So yeah, there's a lot that we're going to be talking about today. One
One of my favorite topics of all time, obviously,
Chinese century of prosperity,
America's century of humiliation.
Clearly, that's a big deal that we're gonna be getting into.
A lot of indication for the Hassanabi heads,
the Pikerists out there,
the Marxist-Leninist-Pikerist movement
is socialism with Hassan characteristics.
Socialism isn't to be poor, to be rich is glorious.
You know, this is a Deng Xiaoping or more like Deng Xiaohasan Piker.
Ogre did it again.
Of course, the ogre did it again.
4950 Senate fails to pass a measure to end Trump's war in Iran, but it gets closer three Republicans vote. Yes, Paul Collins Murkowski Murkowski is a flip having voted no previously won them votes. No, John Federman.
I'm not sure whether you saw this or not, but Sam Harris is trying to get you on the
smear trend again.
Yeah.
I mean, this doesn't really matter though, right?
There are a lot of people who want a piece of this.
It's virtually impossible for me to deal with every single person that wants a piece of this,
but it's also really funny.
Like if I were to respond to a hater, it probably wouldn't be Sam Harris in 2026, considering
that Sam Harris in 2026 is not a real mover or shaker, right? Unfortunately for Sam, he's
utterly irrelevant. People have actually moved on to much more unsophisticated versions of
Islamophobia, unsophisticated versions of Islamophobia that is very much in fashion,
right?
wants to hear from a liberal who will lark as an anti-conservative, liberal anti-religion
guy who on the one hand, weirdly enough, loves a Jewish ethno-state, okay? Loves the Jewish
ethno-state and is constantly just saying like, look, I'm an atheist. I'm just being
honest with you guys. I'm an atheist and personally as an atheist I think you know
Jews should have an ethno-state. It can be run like a theocracy if necessary because Muslims are
severe and Muslims are far worse. Muslims are far scarier. It's like okay well you're an indecent
person. You don't have any sort of like moral consistency. It's very obvious what you're doing,
right? Yeah, I'm good, man. I don't think it's okay for Jewish ISIS to exist and operate in the Middle East. And you and I are never going to be in agreement on that. I also don't think that we should aggressively pursue people for believing in religion.
And I, you know, whatever, whatever people want to believe in, they can believe in that.
I don't really care necessarily, as long as they're not hurting other people.
So.
I'm a numbers guy.
Yeah, I saw Ray Huang has a really disastrous poll that just recently came out at 4%.
Adam Miller gaining on Ray at 7% now which is which is obviously putting
this into a very, this race into a very shitty place.
But we'll we'll talk about all of that
Honestly, I've been all over Canada you don't even need to bother with anywhere else BC is literally in a class of his own
And it's not even close to be honest. Okay, that's crazy
Fucking Spencer Pratt at literally 22% plus 12 is insane to me
I do think that that's Karen Bass is doing, by the way.
I think Karen Bass's machinations have caused Spencer Pratt to receive the second slot in that race.
But getting back to it, getting back to it.
Are you meeting with the Canadian rev comms?
The revolutionary communists of Canada?
No, I don't think so.
think so. I don't have that in the design, in the cards. I did forget to post on
Instagram. I apologize. I didn't blast off on Instagram because I was doing a
stripper shower basically while I was live already. You know? I just think LA
residents really want to melt homes people I mean you might be right chatter you might
actually be right you in Vancouver no smoke weed y'all are so fucking funny dude some
of you are so stupid what's your bracelet vote Abdul and free Palestine save Gaza bracelet
I'm out here having a whole bath because I didn't have time because I woke up at four
and I have been in transit.
Can you say sick to my stomach fam?
I'm in BC bro.
I'm not in Toronto.
But sure.
Why are you cheeseing fam?
to my stomach fam. The West's laws move the man to understand. Yeah, this is really funny,
really funny story on Spencer Pratt. LA mayoral candidate Spencer Pratt is living in a Bella
hotel, not a trailer. It's really interesting because he's been talking about how his house
uh... was was burned
in the palates fire
which you know i am obviously sympathetic to
uh... and and you know that's that's a horrible situation
uh... but he has been uh... presenting that as a reason as to why he wants to
like killed a homeless
uh... on his like uh... let's kill as many homeless people as possible mayoral
race
spanish prep for those of you who are unfamiliar is uh... now in
second position on some polls in the LA mayoral race,
top two, it's an open primary, top two goes into the general.
The incumbent mayor, Karen Bass at the top with like 30%
because she's unbelievably unpopular.
And Spencer Pratt is now creeping in.
Okay.
Yeah, so he had a mansion that caught on fire and then he bought like an air stream trailer
to make it seem like he was living out of a trailer now that his house is caught on fire.
But it turns out he's actually living in Bell Air Hotel.
It's like $1,200 a night, unbelievably expensive.
I didn't even know he had the money for it,
but maybe he's like fundraising
and then using it to pay for his lavish hotels.
I could totally see him doing that.
I mean, he's a calm man.
He's a straight up calm man.
Pro Israel, pro Alex Jones, pro ICE.
And now he's in second position in the L.A. Marrow race because Los Angeles is completely busted.
Pull out five star $1,200 a night. Yeah.
So,
I am pro running one particular homeless man out of LA.
Yes, this homeless man.
ironic that he's homeless but insanely wealthy so obviously he can have like some kind of permanent
shelter but his entire campaign revolves around also blast off chat we blasted off already let
the fucking people know what are we doing here 184 likes that's crazy we're washed it's over
I forgot to do a Instagram.
So, love hard.
Yeah.
Sorry, don't go Twitter.
Hold on. Let me do a.
Let me do a quick Insta post to.
All right.
All right, just do it now used to do them live anyway now I'm not gonna do it now time to pivot the gaming. Yeah, it's over
You're in Canada, bro. Canada means motionless. If you don't get Timmy Hortons, okay. If I have time,
I'll get Timmy Hortons, okay. Chill out. Okay. All right. All right.
Let's get started in situation monitoring global politics, geopolitical events taking
place taking shape all around the world, but especially in China, Donald Trump and his
legion of fucking losers is currently out in Beijing.
Living my dream.
Okay.
They got the red carpet rolled out.
There's obviously been some bag and forth.
And there's been some controversy on the trip thus far.
One of the worst controversies has been what kind of dog shit food they were serving on
Air Force One that was supposed to be Chinese.
And I don't know how to explain this to you.
is it probably the biggest war crime of all time? Yeah, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang wasn't supposed to
make it on the trip initially, but he actually intercepted Air Force One in Alaska. I saw,
we talked about this yesterday. So I think it's interesting that Jensen Huang was kind of disinvited
or he didn't want to go on the trip initially, which I thought was interesting because Jensen Huang is
is obviously, he's one of those guys who's like petitioning the government to not restrict
NVIDIA sales to China, because he believes that China's going to get there in technology
anyway, so they might as well sell them, they might as well sell them NVIDIA products like
the latest technology, therefore, you know,
Jensen Wong can still make billions of dollars.
And also, he personally believes that this is better
because this way they will have a reliance
on NVIDIA products instead of making
their own competitive chips.
But it turns out, it turns out that beef was maybe short lived or wasn't a beef at all
because Donald Trump invited him.
He was caught, he was tapped on a Alaskan runway getting on Air Force One.
They literally stopped at Alaska, picked them up.
Dude, the way these guys live is so crazy, they're like, oh yeah, I'll hit your right
on Air Force One to Beijing.
Let me just fly my private jet from, I don't know, San Francisco to fucking Alaska, and
you can pick me up in Alaska on the route.
Anyway, New York Times has extensive reporting on what the Trump side demands are most likely
going to look like.
Trump obviously went to China with a contingency of some of the wealthiest people, okay?
Including Brett Ratner, weirdly enough, I think Brett Ratner, is that real?
Is he actually on the China trip as well?
That's very strange.
It almost feels like Donald Trump was like, no, we're gonna bring Jeffrey Epstein affiliates,
okay?
I really wanted Jeffrey Epstein affiliates to come to China.
We want the Epstein class to have a foothold inside of China as a matter of fact.
Now, yeah, this is, I saw that I've retweeted as well, 12 of the most powerful capitalists
on earth flew to Beijing today with the US president as their chaperone to beg the chairman
of the Communist Party of China for deals.
That's pretty much what is going on here.
Now, in a just world, obviously, if we were living in a just world, I mean, I'm not gonna
say it, but if we had a Chinese style form of governance, we'd be prosecuting some of
these billionaires, not flying them around the world, so that they can make even more
billions.
But we don't live in a just world, we live in a world dominated by capital, so anyway,
let's start here.
Trump touching down in China. As the war with Iran looms large. But this is not the visit
the president had initially planned. He had hoped to arrive in China victorious over Iran,
with momentum to seal deals on trade and technology. Instead, the stand still in the war taking
center stage. Trump insists he doesn't need Chinese president Xi's help to end the conflict,
says they will discuss it. We're gonna have a long talk about it. I think he's been relatively
good to be honest with China is one of the way Chinese press is basically big dicking
Donald Trump. Straight up Chinese press is absolutely and it's deliberate obviously like
all most of the press if not all the press in China. Both their internal press in Chinese
their Chinese press and their English press like in the global times is obviously controlled by the
party. So one of the one of the global times, global China news was the major one. China Daily
basically yesterday posted a full above the fold coverage on the nation of Tajikistan
and Tajikistan's leader having a meeting with Xi Jinping. And then on the side,
on the side panel, there was a brief footnote about Donald Trump arriving in Beijing.
I'm sure today, I'm sure today they will probably put it above the fold. But things like that
do matter, right? I mean, this is, this is from yesterday's China Daily.
Sinotagic ties enter new phase.
She navigates China-US relations
and make global uncertainty.
That's by design.
And the Chinese newspaper websites,
like the Chinese papers in Chinese and Mandarin,
they don't even mention that Donald Trump
is coming to China.
And I suspect that's on purpose.
And one of the things that Bloomberg was reporting on
I saw earlier is something that I could not have foreseen either. I thought that they would be much
more excited, even if it is to just like make Trump feel good, make Trump look good.
I did not think that they would go the route of humiliating the American contingency,
or at least like showcasing their power over the American side on this trip, but it turns
out they are doing that.
And this is something that I did not expect, and I will admit that I thought that they
would roll out the red carpet and hit the maximum like, oh, we're so excited that you're
here mentality, turns out that's not the case, which is interesting because China is usually
invested in stability and China knows that the best possible route for stability, the path of
lease resistance, is to give Donald Trump some goodies, some MLUs, memorandum of understandings,
and also on top of that some promises about investment, some promises about purchasing
New York Times called it the three B's, beef, beans, and Boeing, right?
China has a fleet, obviously, of Boeing airplanes. China also builds Boeing
airplanes as well, or builds components of Boeing airplanes in their factories, so
I think that's the reason why the Boeing CEO is there with Donald Trump. They want
to sell more Boeing's to China and beans and soybeans. Obviously, they want to
They want to get China to purchase soybeans again.
It's destroyed a lot of the American agriculture, American farmers in a lot of areas that voted for Donald Trump.
China always reroutes the soybean purchases whenever America starts trying to do, you know, tariffs or anything like that against China.
And China this time around rerouted almost the entirety of their soybean purchases to Argentina.
And then obviously, the other one is beef.
This is a thing that we produce.
Are you trolling?
No, I'm not trolling.
America exports a shit ton of beef.
America exports a shit ton of soybeans,
and America exports Boeing products.
These are like the three major things that we produce
on US soil that we sell to the rest of the world
that isn't baby murder machines.
And obviously America is not gonna sell baby murder machines
to its foreign adversary that it wants to fight.
I thought you were trolling about soybeans,
might be your tone.
No, I'm not trolling.
I never troll about soybeans.
I do not fuck around about soy beans.
Also with Boeing,
medium rare OG is correct.
China is trying to build their own commercial jets to
displays Boeing and Airbus, IE,
Comax, so they've had some significant gains in that field as well.
So they've obviously built their own aerospace industry.
And now they're also in the realm,
China is also personally in the realm
of creating commercial airliner fleets as well.
So I think Boeing is desperately trying to stop that.
But good luck, good luck to all the businesses.
But this was the interesting part.
The Trump-Xi summit has downsized as expectations fall.
The Trump-Xi meeting in Beijing is now expected to be a limited, low-impact summit focused
on maintaining stability rather than major deals.
Key topics include trade, Iran, fentanyl, but analysts say the U.S. has little leverage
as Beijing is offering no clear agenda or concessions.
Instead of a grand bargain, the talks are likely to yield only modest steps, like extending
existing trade truces and maintaining limited sector cooperation, experts say shifting geopolitical
conditions of strength in China's position, making meaningful breakthroughs unlikely.
Well, there could be some meaningful breakthroughs, but for China.
I suspected that China would offer some goodies, you know, promises of investment, maybe even
setting up a factory on US soil in exchange for downsizing the weapons shipments to Taiwan
in order to cool off the tensions in the Taiwanese straight in exchange for, you know, MOUs,
memorandums of understanding, promises of investment on US soil.
And last but not least, perhaps most importantly, to cool down the tensions in the straight
of Hormose.
I said, my analysis on this is a power play.
This is humiliating for Trump, actually shocked they wouldn't give a grab bag of MOUs and
goodies for Trump to take home in exchange for ease in both straight relations.
And of course, I'm of course, referencing the Taiwan East straight and also the
straight of Hormuz when I say ease of tensions in the two straights that are
very important. China isn't going to trade anything for Taiwan. That would be
admitting that Taiwan is for the U.S. to give in the first place? Buddy? They're adults,
okay? As it stands currently, one of China's major goals is to change the language around
American cooperative agreements with Taiwan, okay? That's number one. That's the number
one thing for Xi Jinping. That's the number one thing for China. That's the number one
goal of the PRC since Mao decided not to send the Navy to the island of Formosa and to completely
eradicate the KMT and instead go and defend Korea from a bombing campaign that the Allied
forces were engaging in, which amounted to a genocide. Ever since that moment, PRC has
always wanted to make China whole again, right?
The more leverage China has on the global stage, the more they can stop America's advancement
and, you know, weapons contracts and potentially put the DPP in a weakened position, the independence
party in a more weakened position.
The DPP is basically a holdover for the CIA anyway.
So, yeah, if the U.S. drops a security guarantee, basically instantly makes peaceful transfer
happen.
Taiwan can't possibly defend itself alone.
Taiwan can't even defend itself with America.
Let's be real.
That's not a real consideration at all.
Taiwan is wholly, like Taiwan, if China wanted to overtake Taiwan
militarily, there's not a lot that America could possibly do.
This is more so a Chinese initiative
to make sure that peaceful reunification happens,
rather than any sort of like military escalation.
It's to avoid military escalation.
Not only I'm so fucking serious about this, by the way,
because guess what?
It's not just my assessment.
This is the assessment of former American generals
and former American intelligence community leaders, okay?
Max Boot, who is not exactly an anti-war guy,
Max Boot, who very famously wrote
The case for American Empire, that Max Booth, you might recall I used to read some of his
stuff back in the day on this broadcast, that Max Booth, okay, wrote or published a Washington
Post interview where he talked at length about China surpassing the United States in a decent
chunk of, of different military ambitions. And in this, in this interview, Max Boot asks,
and this comes after the Atlantic article from Bob Cagan, Robert Cagan, the godfather
of neoconservatism, right? Like these guys are not peaceful doves at all. These guys
have been formative in advancing the interests of American Empire. They have actively cheer
leaded through some of America's worst military conquests. Okay, yeah, this was, I was supposed
to get to this yesterday. 35 year CIA veteran says the Chinese have a very dark portrait
of the United States is a global hegemon that is declining in power and becoming more violent
as it tries to cling to its primacy.
This is just what is going on, by the way.
It's not a dark portrait.
The Chinese are just looking at what America is posting,
what America is showing the rest of the world,
and basically analyzing it, and they're correct.
OK, they're right.
They're just simply right.
And this article is important because of who
is being interviewed, OK?
Hold on, let me find the paywall remover real quick and then we can read it and we'll go
through it real quick.
We'll go through bits and pieces of it real quick rather.
So, John Culver is one of the guys that he interviewed, one of the foremost authorities
on the Chinese military subject he began studying as a CIA analyst in 1985.
From 2015 to 2018, he served as the National Intelligence Officer for East Asia since retiring
from the CIA in 2020.
He's been a non-resident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
In advance of the summit between President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping,
Max Booth interviewed Calver, John Calver, about China's military capabilities and what
lessons the People's Liberation Army PLA is drawing from the U.S. conflict with Iran.
The conversation was edited and condensed.
And I am going to give you some bits and pieces from it.
Hold on.
It's not letting me actually delete the paywall.
Why not?
What the hell?
You guys have a non-paywalled version of this that I can use because I can't.
Rnode Bertrand did a high-level summary of the article if you don't want to read it.
Okay, I can't read it.
Fuck it.
We'll do the Rnode Bertrand summary.
says, if anything, Boots interview is even more devastating than Kagan's piece. This is him talking
about the Robert Kagan piece that we talked about that I also summarized where Robert Kagan basically
said America has lost in Iran and they need to fucking figure out a new way of maintaining whatever
power it can maintain as a global hegemon, perhaps in a multipolar world. Okay.
And this comes after that. So Arnold says, if anything, Boots interview is even more
devastating in Kagan's piece because it's not an editorial opinion. He's interviewing John
Culver, a former top CI analyst. He was national intelligence officer for East Asia and one of
the world's foremost authorities on the Chinese military, which he's been studying since 1985.
This is an appended opining. This is someone who spent decades inside the intelligence community.
One, in the case of war with Taiwan, the U.S. will flee the theater.
This is huge, okay?
One of the things that military analysts are looking at, even before America depleted
its peer and near peer adversary standoff munitions against Iran, which is not a near
peer adversary, but merely a regional power at best, right?
It has capabilities of force projection beyond its borders, but they're not supposed to be
a global center of power.
And Iran is able to, by way of asymmetric warfare, get its wishes across the rest of
the globe, or at least make the rest of the globe receive a penalty for America's ambitions.
Okay, this is huge.
This is massive because it showed everyone, as I told you since like week two of Operation
Epic Fail, that this basically showed every other competent military leader around the
world two things.
You can engage in asymmetric warfare and for pennies on the dollar, successfully hold positions as long as you have set up your entire defense production capabilities to withstand American bombing, aerial bombardments.
If you have a competent enough anti-air denial system, anti-air defense system, then your munition stockpiles will, as long as they can survive, you can engage in a tit for tat battle with the largest superpower on the planet.
Right? That's huge. It's a big deal because warfare has changed dramatically in some respects.
And it now has even the playing field.
Just as the rocket-propelled grenades were devastating for tanks, and then tank armor
obviously had to improve, and then drone warfare once again redesigned the way that conflicts
unfold and the way conflicts play out, Iran has shown the world that through a successful
through the successful productive forces,
asymmetric warfare, and tunneling your entire
defense industry underground,
you are capable of withstanding tremendous amounts of pain
and punish the rest of the world
as long as you're sitting on a 21-mile-wide strip,
straight, that 20% of the global energy supply
transits through.
But America has shown the world that it's incapable of defending its own fucking bases against Iran.
So, I continue. This is undoubtedly the single most stunning revelation in the entire piece. Culver says that as far as he is aware, the Pentagon's plan in the case of war with Taiwan is to simply flee.
This is the exact quote I think some of the thinking in the Pentagon, and maybe it is evolved since I retired, is that when we think there's going to be a war, we need to get our high value naval assets out of the theater.
And then we would have to fight our way back in from where it's not clear. WAM is no bastion either. Now why? South Korea is right there.
So is Japan. So is Taiwan. The problem is Iran has shown that even a middle power, even
a regional power is capable of dishing out tremendous punishment if they have the productive
capabilities. And if there's one country that has infinitely more productive capabilities
than fucking Iran, it's China.
So if Iran can lob inexpensive Shahad drones
and cut through American defenses in the Gulf,
one of the most fortified American positions on the planet
as a direct consequence of 20 plus years
of colonial domination in the region.
This is the Middle East we're talking about.
America has had its tentacles in the Middle East
for 25 years, longer than 25 years,
but certainly accelerated in the past 25 years.
And if Iran, as a regional power,
is capable of blowing up American military bases,
blowing up radar installations,
and even destroying the idea of Dubai
as they've been able to do so successfully
by making it uninhabitable for Western capital,
making it uninhabitable for expats.
Then what the fuck do you think China could do
to South Korea, to Japan, and also to Taiwan?
America knows that it does not have the defensive capabilities
to even protect their own assets in that region
because that region is in striking distance.
Okay, any high value assets would be sitting ducks
in the entire arena.
China can strike U.S. forces deployed to Japan, Australia, or even South Korea in a way that
Iran really can't.
And given that Iran has hit at least 228 targets across U.S. bases in the Middle East, forcing
the U.S. to evacuate most of them, that's saying something.
Also U.S. aircraft carriers would need to operate within a thousand miles of the fight
to matter, which, given it's well within the range of Chinese missiles, they won't.
As Culver bluntly puts it, there's really no safe spaces.
Second point that's also important, China leads in most military domains and it's not
even closed.
Culver says it's hard not to be hyperbolic about China's military capabilities and that
at this stage, it's hard to point to an area other than submarines and undersea warfare
and say that the United States still has an advantage.
This is the one that pisses off everyone
that I talk to in the realm of defense, okay?
I know a lot of engineers, as you know,
and whenever I bring this stuff up,
some of them are like, no, you don't even understand, dude.
They go into, you know, some of these people
are brilliant people, okay?
And I know I'm not even talking about Moran.
Some of these people are brilliant people.
They've worked in some of these companies, okay?
They have their hands in this shit.
Obviously, they won't reveal any information
that's classified.
But,
you ever start the stream to be normal
or just cry about it?
I don't even know what that means.
What did you impl-
What?
You ever start stream to be normal
or just cry about this shit?
Brother, I'm a fucking political commentator.
What do you talk about?
I'm doing political commentary.
I'm talking about America's forced projection capabilities
and how much has diminished around the globe
in comparison to a peer adversary like China
as opposed to like a decade ago
and what the Taiwanese relationship with America
looks like now.
That's my job.
this is such a funny thing I mean I'll take a brief moment here I know people
get really annoyed when I do this but it's such a funny thing to complain about
because this is literally like the same thing you could say to like Jake Tapper
you'd be like oh this guy fucking yapping about the news again it's like
yeah bitch you tuned in to the channel do you fucking tune into the NFL and go
Oh my god, dude.
I can't believe they're playing football again.
What the fuck, man?
I hate this every fucking Monday night, every Sunday.
Football, football, football.
Why is there no Taylor Swift on the TV?
Put some suits for a week and you think you're a political commentator?
Yeah.
Yeah, all 13 plus years of doing this, I put on a suit once, nobody cared about me until I put on the mask, you know, nobody cared about me until I put on the suit.
But yeah, getting back into it.
into it. So China has a lot of advantages and made significant strides in technological
innovation and also has a very clear productive advantage in the realm of production in comparison
to the United States of America. In some critical areas such as advanced munitions,
which when it comes to war is pretty damn relevant, his assessment is that China leads
by magnitudes. As a reminder, an order of magnitude means 10x or so by assuming he knows
that and meant what he said, magnitudes would mean at least 100 times more, meaning that
U.S. capabilities would be less than 1% of those of China. At the same time, Calvary
also says that whichever side runs out of bullets first is going to lose. And I think
we both know. I think we both know which side is going to run out of bullets first, right?
If America is running out of bullets in Iran, America is running out of bullets in China
way faster.
Okay.
As a matter of fact, America is almost already out of bullets and not a single bullet has
been fired in the direction of China.
Something to also pay attention to.
The picture, if anything, is even more damning in shipbuilding capabilities.
This is something that has been discussed quite a bit.
He reminds us that a single shipyard in China, Jiangnan shipyard on Changqing Island near
Shanghai has capacity, more capacity than all US shipyards combined.
Put all these Chinese shipyards together and China's broader naval shipbuilding capacity
is 232 times larger than that of the United States.
And this is from a leaked US Navy briefing slide called for hopefully as a China to poison
up ships every year to replicate the entire French Navy, which is supposed to be the second
most powerful in the world after the United States of America.
Or I guess if you don't factor China screen now shared.
Yes, it doesn't matter.
It's just it's just fucking bits and pieces from an article that is being summarized on
Twitter, so I'm just reading it. What do you want? Like what changes if you actually see
the article in your, in front of your screens? Anyway. Backseat production. So funny. Callers
assessment is the exact opposite. If you're only window into, oh, the number three, despite
this, a war in Taiwan is still highly unlikely. Okay, a war in Taiwan is still highly unlikely.
In spite all of this, or maybe because of all of this information.
Obviously, if you're getting all your news from Western media, you think China is always trying
to fucking militarily overtake Taiwan. This is the number one thing that people talk about.
And I constantly say, I don't think that's the case.
Obviously, there's no guarantees, but it doesn't feel to be the case at all.
And people say, oh dude, you're dick writing Xi Jinping.
You're dick writing Xi Jinping.
You want to eat the dick of the Communist Party of China, all this stuff.
I'm just giving you what I think.
I'm just giving you analysis.
And this assessment.
Our note and I guess Culver's assessment is entirely at odds with one another.
China's increasing relative strength vis-a-vis the United States makes more, less likely,
not more.
That's what Culver's assessment is.
Culver explains.
Taiwan is a crisis.
Xi Jinping wants to avoid not an opportunity.
He wants to seize the stronger China gets, the less it needs to fight.
Why launch a war when you could simply wait for the military to balance to become so lopsided
that the U. S quietly drops its security guarantees on its own.
Culver himself foresees a future when Americans might start to say maybe Taiwan is a war we
don't want to get involved in.
That would almost automatically mean peaceful reunification, which has always been China's
primary objective.
This doesn't mean China views the U.S. is harmless, however.
Culver says Beijing sees America as a very militarily aggressive country that is declining
in power and becoming more violent as a result.
Which he says is one further reason why war over Taiwan is not something that Xi Jinping
is looking for.
I think this assessment is correct, okay?
I think that assessment is correct.
The Chinese assessment on America is correct.
one that I also share. It's one that I also mention all the time that America is a declining
empire and a declining empire does not die quietly. It flings violently. Sometimes a declining
empire is smart enough to target smaller and smaller targets where it can make its force
projection capabilities be known. This is why Venezuela was under threat and America seized
It is also part of the reason why I really worry about what America will do in Cuba.
On the one hand, even the smart, limited military ambitions would still spell trouble for middle
powers in smaller countries developing nations that are within striking distance of the United
States, especially when China very clearly has no ambitions of propping them up defensively
or disrupting America's affairs in its own backyard.
That's just the way big powers see these things.
That's the way great powers see these things.
I know it's really gross to think about Cuba
or the entirety of Latin America
as being in America's own backyard.
It's colonial language,
but it's just how great powers see the world, right?
If Taiwan is China's backyard,
then Latin America and especially Cuba
is America's backyard.
That's just the way they communicate on the stuff.
There is no morality here.
There is no investment in the sovereignty of peoples here,
none whatsoever.
Number four, the last takeaway is that the game is up.
Last but not least,
perhaps the most revealing aspect of the interview
is that Culver doesn't seem to see a way out.
This is structural and irreversible.
Once again, I also agree.
I cannot believe I'm saying this,
But I agree with the assessment of the CIA analyst, asked by boot whether the Trump
administration's $1.5 trillion defense budget, assuming it's approved, would change the trend
lines, which as a reminder, would constitute a 50% increase in defense spending.
His reply is that it would probably help to some extent, but I worry that we would be
throwing good money after bad, not exactly brimming with optimism.
A CIA guy being interviewed by a massive neocon maxboot on
The motherfucking washington post and he's saying we're done
Throw the fucking towel we're out
Spending money unnecessarily like he's a fucking liberal blowhard
Okay, like this is this is the assessment of
Anti-war libtards in perpetuity. This is what the anti-imperialists have been saying
We must chart a different path forward, one that revolves around peace and diplomacy,
and not might is right politics, or might makes right politics necessarily.
And now you're hearing that from fucking neocons and CIA analysts whose entire job,
whose entire job is to say America is the most domineering force.
It's the hegemon. It gets to do whatever it wants to, and you can't see a damn thing about it.
it, and we should give unlimited money to the defense industry. Now, there's two problems
here with the unlimited contracts. And this is something that also was proven decisively,
okay, unambiguously proven. Defense bloat cannot make up. Defense bloat is the primary
factor in why American expenditures does not necessarily mean American military superiority,
does not necessarily mean unlimited munitions.
Defense bloat is the reason why a country that designs its defense industry for survival
is going to have, by way of asymmetric warfare, a much better option, a much better position
overall in a war of attrition, which is what all wars are. Ukraine has shown this against
Russia. Ukraine showed this against Russia. Obviously, they got a shit ton of weapons
from the Western world, but outside of that, they created an indigenous drone industry,
And that changed the game of warfare, bro, you are spitting some total nonsense.
Okay.
Okay, big guy.
You tell me.
You tell me what you think Hassan still glazing China.
I'm literally talking about Ukraine right now and Iran.
This is nothing to do with China.
Bro, what are you talking about, Law?
Okay, we got three different backgrounds here.
We got a great name, one month subscriber, 15 month subscriber.
All of this comes across as very complicated for some reason.
That's my first comment, though, was checking.
Okay, you get a second off.
All right.
What are you talking about?
You don't think Russia has indigenous use value centrally planned defense production?
No, it does.
It does.
And so does the United States of America.
Do you not hear the words that are coming out of my mouth?
Even if you have a robust defense industry like Russia does with drone warfare,
If your goal is survival, right, if your goal is survival as Ukraine's goal is survival, they can put up a fairly strong defense against a much more powerful regional, a much more powerful regional power.
This is just to say regional powers have a harder time dominating their neighborhood than they ever did before because of drone warfare.
All right.
Hopefully that was asked and answered.
Ukraine held out because of us. No, absolutely.
Oh, Trace still here is still. She knows the PLA is not ready, bro.
Why the fuck do you think they do nothing but edge?
Again, an Amerifat cannot comprehend that other countries don't have the same ambitions
or don't have the same methods of domination, even if we were to agree was good.
Even if we were in agreement that like, this is what the goal is for China, China wants
to be a hegemon.
That's what all, that's all China wants to do, marches here, okay?
Okay, great. Obviously, the oh yeah, I got it. It's over here. It's perfect.
What, I don't want to preview it on my over here.
Oh, I don't want to do that. Do it on your, wait, you have a laptop with you? You have
an extra laptop with you? Okay, then you can do it on your extra laptop.
Because that might accidentally fuck up the yeah
Bro in China you would be in prison for speaking to your mind good luck getting free speech in China
You want to live in a dictatorship because that's what China is buddy
How do we not have a aura edit of me in China?
You know, like that's what buddy.
Buddy.
What are we talking about?
Look at this.
That's me. You're probably wondering how I got here. That's me. Next to my podcast
call us some best friends in fucking Tiananmen Square, live broadcasting to the United States
of America in real time from the Tiananmen Square flag raising ceremony.
Stop saying you are not Chinese.
It hurts my feelings.
And it's also untrue, deeply untrue.
In any case, similarly, when asked why the US keeps investing in billions in aircraft
carriers, even when Trump's class battleships is the answer, that is because the military
services have a nostalgia for the things that meet their expectations for how you get promoted.
In other words, wasted money, okay?
That's all this is.
Capitalism has necessitated imperialism, okay?
Profit rates have a tendency to decline.
You look for new markets to dominate, to extract natural resources from.
You seek out new profit centers around the world.
And the only way to maintain that profitability in these emerging markets, in these developing
nations is by dominating them militarily.
This is why you need to engage in imperialism.
This is why you build a robust industry of defense.
However, capitalism is a self-defeating system.
And that is precisely the reason why at a certain point in the aftermath of World War
too, when American defense capabilities turned around and no longer cared as much about survivability,
no longer cared as much about having technological superiority, but instead cared about justifying
its own existence. It became this massive behemoth. And that's the reason why we spend
more money than eight of our peer competitors combined. Eight of the next biggest militaries
combined, barely touches the American defense, the American defense expenditure.
However, Donald Trump wants to increase that to the tune of $1.5 trillion.
And even then, the amount of money spent on the military doesn't actually make the military
a more competent, more robust, more successful fighting force.
Because these contracts that are given to the defense industry are not given to the
defense industry so that it can actually destroy its adversaries.
These contracts are given so that people make money.
Okay?
That's it.
That's it.
The defense industry exists currently to justify its own existence.
It doesn't exist to like actually defend the United States of America, okay?
It's a system of middle managers trying to cut side deals and engage in cons all the
way down.
That's all this is.
We know this as defense bloat, okay?
And this was my suspicion for many, many years, but we no longer have to suspect that there
is defense bloat, and it has made America a less successful country as far as enforcing
its wishes upon near peer adversaries, peer adversaries, but instead even on regional powers.
Okay. Third tier countries that we have been able to dominate economically, like Iran, Iran
proved that it doesn't fucking matter if you spend trillions of dollars on your defense
industry.
March and you sleep in the same bed. Yeah. When we have sex, we do. Anyway, same thing
for the Pentagon's much height, health scape drone strategy to defend Taiwan. Culver asked
the obvious question. What drones are you talking about launching from where he points
out that they'd have to pre deploy them. If not on Taiwan itself, then on Luzon or the
Japanese Southwest islands, all of which can be struck by the Chinese. He adds that this
This is the tyranny of time and distance when you look at the war in the Pacific, okay?
Trump will look at all this and say, you guys are naysayers.
These are not cynical, peace-loving dubs.
These are some of the most prominent war hawks that are looking at the board, that are looking
at the numbers on the board, that are looking at America's capabilities, matching them against
the Chinese capabilities, and saying, there is no way to math it out.
There's no way to gain theory your way out of this, okay?
It's not happening.
And this reality has been apparent
for those with eyes to see.
I've been talking about this nonstop.
One of the best examples we can use,
someone brought it up in the chat as well,
is the difference between shot head drones,
which are $7,000 to $10,000 a pop to make,
basically a fucking behemoth of a lawnmower
with explosive ordnance attached to it,
unbelievably successful in destroying billions of dollars worth of military
equipment so far in the Gulf.
America basically took a shot head drone that was down and retooled it.
They slapped, they took the exact same thing.
They copied it one to one and they slapped them, made an America sticker on it,
made in the USA sticker on it.
Our version of the shot head drone is called Lucas.
It's $50,000 a pop, which is unbelievably affordable.
for the American military industry, right?
The MIC, the military industrial complex, $50,000 drone
is actually very, very cheap.
You're joking?
No, I'm not joking.
They took the same damn thing,
they put a starlink on it, and they called it Lucas.
That's exactly the same drone.
It looks exactly the same, it works exactly the same.
The only difference is it has a starlink,
like a look at little starling thing on top of it
fifty thousand dollars
this is what i mean when i say defense bloat
this is what i mean when i say we are not competitive
the picture that emerges
are no uh... summarizes
from both boots culvert interview in kagan's article is remarkably consistent
the u.s is a check u.s is checkmate in the middle east
would need to entirely flee the pacific theater before war even starts cannot
produce enough weapons cannot keep it supposedly allies safe
and has no strategy to reverse any of it nor can one even be produced given the
structural nature of the gap
even a fifty percent increase in defense spending culver says would be
throwing good money after bad
to america's most prominent hawks in two of the most established outlets
legacy papers in a space of forty eight hours have essentially published the
the obituary of American military primacy.
Arnold says, yesterday I concluded my post by saying
that even arsonists smell the smoke.
Today I'll say the arsonists are now
writing the fire report.
New, the US would struggle to find a protracted war
with China due to a lack of long range munitions,
air defense systems in unmanned air,
undersea and surface systems finds CSIS defense. Another one. Another one. These guys are not
our allies by the way. They're not our allies at all. These are people, these are demonic
entities that have been a cancerous force constantly advancing the interest of the military
industrial complex. They are literally funded by the military industrial complex. Some of
these articles that they're writing, they're writing specifically to justify bigger and
better equipment. That means more dollars ceases, more dollars coming to their donors,
right, their corporate donors. But this is still important analysis. This is why I said
what I said at Yale, at the Yale Union speech. Whether we think American
Empire should end or not is immaterial to what is actually going on, no matter
what that resolution was at Yale Union, which was, you know, favored my
perspective, of course. American Empire is ending, and we have an obligation to
to future generations in the rest of the world to ensure that we manage that end of American
empire. Will it end violently as we lash out at any and every country we can? Or will we retreat
from the world, lick our wounds, and focus on rebuilding this country with all of the wealth
that we currently have? It's that simple?
Empires never die quietly and we must end the American Empire regardless but we
must manage the retreat of a superpower from the world stage. This is a
a challenge for our time. Actually, this is THE challenge for our time.
Because if we do not do this, then the American Empire will come to an end in a much more
violent way. A curse on future generations that we must avoid at all costs.
Thank you.
I think personally, my Oxford Union speech was somewhat prophetic about what I called
out and and what I said was going to happen if all these pro-Israel groups kept talking
about how all Jews care about is Israel over and over again and how damaging that would
be to the safety and security of Jews in the Western world. That was two years ago. That's
already unfolding. And this is the other one. Hopefully one day we'll look back at those
speeches, honestly, and say, damn, how did this guy get it right?
Maybe some people will ask, why didn't we see these warning signs?
And then they'll recognize it's because he was also dealing with some of the dumbest
fucking reactionaries on the internet, and constantly finding himself in drama after drama,
manufactured outrage.
So we didn't pay attention to what the fuck he was saying, because we got duped by some
some of the stupidest people on the internet into believing that this guy was deeply unserious.
Didn't have anything worth listening to. Now, of course, obviously there are intelligent
people who do recognize that some of the things I'm saying are worth listening to. Okay. Thank
God that there are still literate people with functioning fucking brains. It's just that
we now live in a society that increasingly pays less attention to people like that.
myself, I'm saying like much more brilliant and you know genuinely well-read people, not
just the silly dummy like myself, right?
Now let's get back to Good Morning America's analysis on Donald Trump's arrival in China.
Iran's closest allies buying more Iranian oil than any other country. Trump expected
to urge she to pressure Tehran to make a deal and reopen the Strait of Hormuz. With the
war now in its 11th week this morning, there are new questions about whether the White
House is overstating the damage done to Iran's missile capabilities. The New York Times reporting
Iran.
Don't act like you are deeply unserious. I can be and I am. Oftentimes. I mean, I literally
put on a fucking doctor's frock and talk about kussey and 9-11 in the cars universe, okay?
But then there are also moments where I'm giving you sincere and very serious analysis.
You have critical thinking skills.
You have the capacity to sift through the unserious parts and listen to the serious
parts, right?
The issue is not that.
The issue is people oftentimes will say, no, you're just like a fucking, you're just a
baby you're so insecure we mustn't listen to what you have to say do you
think the cars were as sad about 9-11 as the people yes I think they were
devastated what clavicular will be locked today at 5 p.m. EST with JD Vance
and Jake Paul. CBS didn't get a visa for Tony Double Cirque in time for his visit. So instead
of broadcasting for Beijing, they probably didn't give him the visa. That's a major L.
Wait CVS has no one on the ground in China. Oh
That has to be on purpose
There ain't no way dog
There ain't no fucking way. Nope. That's that's gotta be on purpose. Oh
My god, oh, that's so funny
I'm telling you these motherfuckers are so in tune with what's going on it all the minutia
all the
All the comings and goings. I guess they're also still broadcasting from China. Just Chinese type A
No, while the rest of the TV news world is traveling with Trump to China CBS evening news broadcast from Taiwan after the network failed secure Chinese visa in time for
Anchor Tony de Koppel. This is not even about Tony de Koppel. This is about CBS
I'm willing to bet. I'm willing to bet China didn't want to give a
China did not give a
a visa to CBS on purpose like a press visa to CBS on purpose because they were like nope
That's like Israeli news fuck that
Very funny
CBS news anchor Tony DeCobba will broadcast from Taipei this week after failing to obtain a visa for China in time
A stumble in the networks efforts to play a leading role in this week's dominant global story American broadcasts are planning extensive coverage from the Chinese capital this week
week, seven, four first reporters on the NBC News, Tom Lamas would be anchoring from Beijing,
as well as ABC News' David Muir. CBS appears to have planned similar coverage and was forced
to change course the last minute. On the CBS morning planning call Wednesday, they discussed
plans for DeCoppel to broadcast from the Taiwanese capital, according to a person on the call.
Two people who had been briefed on the issues had DeCoppel had not been able to get a Chinese
visa.
to Israel's favorite propaganda apparatus.
What's going on?
Bro, they even gave a fucking visa, they even allowed Marco Rubio to come under a different
name. Okay. They even gave a visa to Marco Rubio, who's currently sanctioned by the Chinese
government. They just changed his name up a little bit and we're like, sure, you can
still come. That's your speculation. Yeah, Weizhe Jiang is CBS News's senior White House
Correspondent. So she's on the ground, but not Tony DeCoppel. He wore his Maduro tracks
into China. Yeah. Taipei Tony, dude. That's awesome. Are you missing the soundboard?
I am. The person added that the couple's presence Taipei highlighted the importance of Taiwan,
which is said to be a major topic at the summit.
Cope, Cope.
All right, let's get back into it.
It still has retained roughly 70%
of its pre-war missile stockpile and has restored-
Tony, about the demand of third circumcision
this time for Chinese citizenship, okay?
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Report operational access to 30 of the 33 missile sites it maintains along the Strait
of Hormuz, potentially threatening vessels transiting the waterway.
On top of that, the Times reports Iran has regained access to roughly 90% of its underground
missile storage and launch facilities nationwide, which are now reportedly partially or fully
operational.
The White House this morning pushing back, insisting Iran was crushed militarily.
ballistic missiles are destroyed, and that their production facilities are dismantled.
The president calling it virtual treason to suggest Iran's military is doing well.
As the stalemate with Iran drags on, the Pentagon now estimates that the cost of this war has
risen to $29 billion, up $4 billion in just two weeks.
And Americans at home are feeling the squeeze.
Gas prices still up 50 percent since the start of the war.
the president rejecting the idea that the financial strain Americans are feeling will
influence whether he makes a deal with Iran.
What extent are Americans financially strengthened to motivate a European deal?
Not even a little bit.
The only thing that matters is when I'm talking about the incredible.
That is such an incredible fucking moment from Trump.
Just another unbelievably honest moment, okay?
Just I don't give a fuck about the American working class, okay?
What I care about is, I ran not having a nuclear weapon, which is for the record, bullshit,
okay?
And even if that was a sincere goal for the United States of America, there was one president
who was able to achieve that without using any sort of military incursion. Barack Obama
did that with the JCPOA. But, once again, whenever this dipshit says, oh, Iran can't
have a nuclear weapon, just know that he's basically just saying, I really love Israel.
Okay? He's just saying, this was Israel's major ambition, and we have to do it. We have
have to do it. That's daddy. Israel is my father.
Get about Iran. They can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about
Americans financial situation. I don't think about anybody. I think about one
thing. He cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. That's all. Now over the next
two days. God, he looks so he looks so shitty. I was listening to his first. I
was looking at video footage and listening to his speeches from his
first China trip in 2017, and it's actually incredible how much he has diminished since
then.
Obviously, it's been a fucking decade almost, but it is crazy.
The difference is night and day, okay?
He is a rotting carcass.
Is here, there will also be plenty of pomp and ceremony, President Trump also looking
to make some new announcements about investments, hoping that China will make big purchases
of U.S. soybeans and Boeing aircraft. The private sector also looking to announce some
wins here, President Trump bringing along with him over a dozen American business leaders
including Apple's Tim Cook and Elon Musk. But again, with the war hanging over all of
this, expectations are muted. Robin.
Yep, they are. Thank you for being there for us, Mary. Thank you.
Welcome, they cried. As President Trump landed in Beijing today with a phalanx of executives,
his old frenemy Elon Musk, who hoped the summit will help them make more money in China.
Off he went, in the beast, the presidential limousine, not quite such a dramatic drive
as that of Daniel Craig, aka James Bond, who has swapped to Daston Martin for a BYD,
a Chinese electric car. How times change. Chinese car factories, which unlike their
US equivalents, produce almost entirely electric vehicles, are increasingly automated. Although
the US still produces more advanced computer chips. China is quickly incorporating AI into
manufacture and everyday life. But President Trump still thinks tariffs are the way to
rebalance trade. Unfortunately, I don't. I do think there's something very funny.
But like American military superiority came from our productive capabilities, okay?
It came from our distance to the conflict in World War II obviously and the lack of
damage that the American soil withstood in comparison to all the allies and certainly
the adversaries.
China also has tremendous proximity to most of the things that are taking place.
America has tried to bring the war to the Chinese doorstep and has failed to do so given
the gap that China now holds over America and the rest of the world as far as their
productive forces goes.
It's very funny to think that America still can roll the clock back to a time when you
could engage in like tariffs wars after almost 100 years of American design on global trade.
Of course Xi Jinping wants to maintain that liberal world order as opposed to the United
States of America that has carried the torch of the like America was the architect of the
New World Order and it was the torch bearer of the New World Order and it dominated for decades,
if not almost a century in this global design, not a century, but almost a century.
And yeah, it's unbelievably beneficial to China because they withstood tremendous struggles,
tremendous hardships in the process and were able to take advantage of the appetite of capital
for profit seeking, to basically design an incredible productive force, as Adam
Tooze and many others call a, a developmentary dictatorship, not dissimilar to
what the USSR had done in the past as well, to, to become this not only
competitive global superpower, but perhaps the next global superpower.
And America's only way of dealing with this new adversary is by trying to roll the clock
back to allow its vassal states to engage in siege warfare, Israel, of course, I'm referencing.
And then on top of that, tried to wage war via tariffs.
This whole system is a complex web of self-interested capitalists.
It's not going to fall apart like this if you are the torchbearer for international capital.
That's what America's job is.
It is to protect the interests of multinational corporations.
It is to protect the global design.
You can't just decide, I'm going to rip apart the board and roll the clock back to 1924,
okay, to 1926.
You can't do that.
things were far too sweet for the last 100 years, especially after World War Two for
the last, you know, the last five, six decades.
China exported more electric vehicles than gas cars for the first time last month.
domestic internal combustion engine car sales fell 34% year over year. Yeah.
I think Trump really grasps the full scale of what China is trying to do on technology. I think
that there's still a fairly outdated view in Washington that China is the source of low and
manufacturing of cheap goods. I think Trump will be making a mistake to assume that kind
of China is the one that he's dealing with. It's a different country with a different
global reach and a different relationship with the U.S. and the rest of the world economy.
That's obvious from last year's military parade in Beijing, gliding through a People's Liberation
army parades like a Latter-day Emperor. Not that it means he's on the brink of invading
Taiwan. Ever the autocrat, he's recently fired dozens of generals so that may have to wait.
He was with his natural allies, autocrats like him.
Oh my god, autocrats. Look, they're not the free world. They're the enslaved, not us.
by the needs of capital advancing only the interests of parasitic international capital
Yeah, okay
Adjusted to their starting point
Virtually all of these dudes on this screen regardless of like the devious
Outright repressive nature of their domestic affairs have advanced the material conditions of their own
own labor force of their own working class with the only exception of Vladimir Putin's
last like four year run, okay?
Literally those guys, if you adjust it to like the 90s, Democratic People's Republic
of Korea in the 90s, going through unbelievable fucking famine, okay?
And even Vladimir Putin with the exception of, you know, waging war with Ukraine and
completely eating away at all of the gains that he had made as far as improving the material
conditions of like the Russian Federation, okay? They have had a positive trajectory
in comparison, not in comparison to the Western world necessarily, but in comparison to what
their starting point was, okay?
I know, I say it all the time, like, you look at these countries, okay, you look at these
fucking countries, you look at these countries, even Russia, even Russia, in comparison to
the aftermath of the Cold War, the end of the Cold War, is in a better position overall
than it was in the 90s. Now, look at America's allies. Look at Europe. Look at Japan. Okay?
They have not grown. They're productive forces of diminishing the process. People's relative
material conditions have worsened in the process. And the only thing that obviously hides that
damage is technological innovation and the exponential growth of technology, okay?
Sometimes the United States has directly sabotage countries like Japan.
In other instances, the sabotage is less direct, like with the European Union.
So yeah, these guys are fucking autocrats, true.
Okay?
And they're unbelievably repressive.
But what is the lesson that we're showing everyone around the world, that repressive
autocracies could be better at advancing the material conditions of the broader base, with
the exception, once again, it feels like you can't really do a one-to-one comparison with
Russia because of the Petro State, yo, 100%.
I also am acknowledging that Russia's last four years have eaten away at all of the gains
that Russia had made since the 90s.
So if Russia was like here in the 90s and then it got here, okay, in the 2010s, it's
now down here.
It's still better off than where it was in the aftermath of the dissolution of the USSR.
But there has been a significant diminishment of the quality of life for everyday Russian
existence.
And even yet, it's still in a better position overall because the bottom was achieved.
And as far as the Russian economy's growth, obviously, it's a petro state.
So it's a major energy provider and therefore, it's not exactly a great comparison between
Democratic People's Republic of Korea and China, regardless.
So yeah.
20 plus articles since you visited Jesus Christ,
more corporate media.
We have to find a better way to,
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who's trailing badly in polls.
Washington Examiner, Virginia Democrats got
what they deserved.
Then what just happened to Mike Lawler, Rand Paul's grover son attacked him?
Yeah, it's really funny.
I heard that.
Mike Lawler, too busy, too busy worrying about critics of Israel who aren't anti-Semitic
to recognize the real anti-semitism coming from his own party.
What happened, Mike?
What happened?
Nick Field writes, the McMorrow campaign's current attack on al-sayed began on March
26 when she hit him over Hassan Piker.
Her support almost immediately stopped as she continued.
It began to rapidly fall.
El Sayed, meanwhile, went from third to first,
just an objectively terrible strategy.
McMorrell campaign's next move is gonna be,
why is this on Piker, not a physician?
Look at this, look at this.
Come at the king, you best not miss.
God damn.
We'll talk about the Mike Lawler attack in a second.
But yeah, obviously, as I said yesterday, it was unbelievably stupid, the attack ads.
And it also exposed this deep network of centrist Democrats called like Democratic majority,
I think, right?
Or elect Democrats.
There's a bunch of different groups.
We're here for Dr. Abdul and streamer Dr. Jihad.
Yeah, no, the next, the next article is going to be like,
Hassan Piker calls himself Dr. Jihad.
But he has received no, no medical degrees.
Why is he lying?
And how does this contribute to the Dr. Abdul Al Sayed campaign?
Should we even call Abdul al-Sayed a doctor?
After all, he is Muslim.
Should Muslims with MDs be called doctors?
Find out more at 7.
Oh my God, Mallory McMurray gets 0% in Detroit.
That's crazy.
Anyway, so yesterday, they put out this fucking hit piece yesterday, they put out this hit
piece that called into question Dr. Abdul El Sayed's medical credentials.
Now, I can't think of a worse hit piece.
Like I think tying someone like myself as a dangerous radical and trying to terror jacket
Abdul Al Sayed could potentially work in a general election.
And therefore, you can actually, like that could, that could be somewhat consequential,
right?
Obviously it wasn't, and it doesn't really matter.
It was certainly not going to work in the primary regardless, right?
But even then, even though that was a bad decision overall, there's at least a little
bit more logic behind it, right?
It's certainly not going to work in fucking Michigan, though.
It's not like we're talking about Alabama, right?
We're talking about goddamn Michigan.
Now, this line of attack, however, that came, shouts out the Liz Smith by way of Liz Smith's
flaxed in political that, uh, released this article in political calling into question.
Dr. Abdul, I'll say it's credentials.
I talked about it yesterday is so, so bad.
It is a far dumber way to attack Dr. Abdul.
I'll say it.
Okay.
And the reason why I say that is because now you put the man's background in the
forefront of the conversation to the average Michigander. What the fuck do you think they're
going to think when you're like, we shouldn't call this guy who has an MD from University
of Michigan, okay, and Columbia. And also is a Rhodes scholar in the field of public
health from Oxford, who has literally worked for the Detroit health department and has
eradicated 300,000 Michiganders medical debt.
It's so insane to, in a last-inch effort,
to try to take one of your opponent's strongest points
and remind everybody that you, as a politician,
worked for a couple years designing logos for cars
and then moved to michigan
and then constantly tweeted about how you fucking hate michigan while you moved
there
while simultaneously being like you know who my opponent is
clearly an unqualified
clearly an unqualified liar why is he an unqualified liar
oh because he's one of the most credentialed people to run
for fucking senate the first doctor
because that's what he is. And not just like a doctor of, I don't know, the language of English
or something. Like he didn't just get a doctorate in economics, a medical doctor with an MD to run
for the Democratic Party Senate in 76 years or so, okay? Republicans have some doctors in office.
Democrats don't.
So, it's really stupid for them, it is really, really stupid for them to draw attention to
how unbelievably qualified Dr. Abdul al-Sayed is, okay?
And not only did they release this information, right?
I said, Liz, you can't be this desperate.
Here's a paragraph from this hip piece that talks about
Abdul's credentials and public health.
He eliminated the medical debt of 300 K, Michiganders.
Okay.
Like this was such a fucking dud, but of course, all of our
favorite ops on the timeline immediately started dunking on it.
Okay.
All of our favorite ops on the timeline started boosting this, many of
which are paid, majority Democrats is the group that was reported on by lever news.
That is one of these centrist think tanks, okay?
Their job is to keep the center at the core of power within the Democratic Party, within
the National Democratic Party.
They work in tandem with the Searchlight Institute and numerous other think tanks, right?
And Mallory McMorrow is obviously leaning in to support from these groups because she's
trying to present herself not as someone with real conviction, but as someone who will say
what she thinks is the right thing to win.
In my opinion, that's business as usual politics.
That's unbelievably untrustworthy.
That's the type of politician that you know once they get an office, if they get an office
at all, is going to sell you, is going to sell you out, okay?
But yeah, remember, I already gave you Dr. Abdul Al Sayed's background, right?
Unbelievably credentialed in the field of medicine, literally worked in public health,
which is what his degrees were for, right?
Palm shell from D Lipman.
Obdual also is potentially a Democrats front runner.
Even if you can't practice medicine,
you can always practice telling the truth.
Every single one of these people
is in some way, shape, or form
related to majority Dems, a think tank, okay?
The graphic design committee does not claim McMoron.
While Dr. Alsai was wiping out medical debt
for over 300,000 people
and getting every kid in Detroit glasses,
McMoron was working at Gawker
and doing invaluable work of being second
for a toll road design competition, really serving humanity.
You can't possibly compare his resume to hers.
I don't even care, by the way.
I don't even care about Mallory McMorrow's background.
But obviously, when you open up this new front of attack,
people are going to, one, dig deeper into Dr. Abdul El Sayed's
background and find out that you're an insane person
for even calling this into question, okay?
But then they're going to look at your background.
You're going to look at your background and go,
what the fuck have you done? What the fuck have you done for the state of Michigan? What have you
done for Michiganders? McMorah received a Bachelor of Arts in Industrial Design from the University of
Notre Dame in 2008 during a junior year in Notre Dame. She won a public design contest for the
2018 version of Mazda 3. She also finished second in a contest design, the logo for the Indiana
Toll Road after graduation. McMorah worked for design firms in New York and Los Angeles as well
close for Mattel Gawker before moving to Michigan.
I think a really huge part of this is them not realizing
how many normies have at least partially lived experience
being called anti-Semitic maliciously.
So those people here, what you have to say and go,
oh, I get what they're doing to Hassan now.
Oh, no, that's for sure.
That was the first thing.
Mallory McMorrah has an undergraduate degree
in industrial design and worked for five minutes at Mattel
before becoming a lifeline politician.
She's not even from Michigan and moved there
from Southern California in order to run
office, she hates Michigan, let's send her back, says Michael from Pennsylvania.
But yeah, the majority of Democrats have assembled a party within a party of packs,
wealthy donors and consultants pushing Democrats at the center and testing
limits a campaign finance law.
And yes, they also work with Talarico as well, which is very frustrating.
I'll be, I'll be honest.
I think Liz Smith also works for Talarico.
I mean, she's a media demon.
Okay, Liz Smith is a media demon.
She has a lot of experience in the DC and especially the New York media circuit, okay?
So she could be an asset for some good candidates if she chose to be an asset.
She will also sometimes get out of the way, even though Andrew Cuomo, someone who she
previously worked for, was running against Zora Mamdani.
She was actually somewhat sympathetic to Zoram Mhamdani.
So Zoram Mhamdani still received a barrage of hate ads and a barrage of unjustifiable
hatred not dissimilar to what Abdul's going through right now, but it wasn't directed
by Liz Smith, okay?
Yeah, this is a recent AES fundraising pitch.
Hi, my name is Dr. Abdul Sayed.
I want to talk to you why I got on the politics and why I'm here to say the rest of the ad,
of course, is I trained as a physician and epidemiologist and have served as the director
of the department of health and human and veteran services in Michigan's biggest county.
Now I'm running to represent Michigan in the US Senate.
You read that right.
I left the job I love, put my family's life on hold and launched this campaign because
in the richest, most powerful country in the world, life shouldn't be this hard.
It shouldn't be this hard to pay for groceries.
See a doctor or believe your kids will have just a bit better than you.
You know what's really funny?
What's next?
hit him on Medicare for all or are they going to be like, Dr. Abdul El Sayed doesn't care
about Medicare for all? Because like, this is a guy who I'm not entirely aligned with
ideologically. Abdul El Sayed is not a socialist. We've had a conversation about it on the
stream where he was like, oh, it's actually corporate capitalism that's at fault, right?
That's the failure. It's a capitalism has gotten out of control. We got to like diminish
its power or whatever, right? But why? Why do I still trust them? Why do I still ride
for him, even if we're not ideologically aligned on this issue.
It's a very important one as a matter of fact.
It's like the, the underpinning ideology, uh, ideological difference because I know that
he will fight for Medicare for all, no matter what.
I believe him and I trust him because I know that he has moral conviction.
Okay.
This is a guy who has literally spent his virtually his entire adult life fighting
for Medicare for all.
literally wrote a book about it.
Okay?
He wrote a whole book on the issue.
So it's really funny that they're trying
to like test his credentials here.
And I suspect the next thing that they're gonna do
is just say like, oh, he doesn't even want Medicare for all
in spite being backed by Bernie Sanders.
The hooker in your bed is getting bored.
It's March, it's Marchie poo.
The best week that came out of the article was from the dude who released that recording
that worked for the campaign and he started talking about how the reason that he quit
was because of Abdul's character.
Yeah, no, that's a sex-pestiny operative, weirdly enough.
I can't believe that this psychopathic pedophilic sex cult has operatives that can embed themselves
inside of campaigns like this.
What is this?
Writing a book is not equal to credibility.
Sarah Longwell wrote a book on widening the Democratic TAN.
Good point.
Except, he also literally worked in Detroit as the executive of their public health service.
services, what do you, what do you mean? Like, what is he supposed to do? He ran for governor
on a Medicare for all ticket. He didn't win. And then he went back to public health. I
agree with you about Abdul. Yeah, you're just on principle. You're saying books are irrelevant
and we shouldn't read them.
Yeah, it's just like very disingenuous the way that the the way that people are attacking
him is unbelievably disingenuous.
And I've spent my career fixing broke systems revealing the choice health department erasing
700 million dollars in medical debt and delivering for working folks.
It's not just about fighting the bad guys.
It's about building a government that works for us.
You know what's funny?
They're going to be like, Dr. Abdul Al Sayed actually eradicated medical debt for only
299,990 Michiganders and yet in his official campaign communicates he maliciously and muslimically
lies and says the number was 300,000 who will put an end to the lies the Islamic Sharia style
lies being advanced by the Islamic Sharia doctorate recipient Dr. Abdulrahman el Sayed
That's when you know the hit pieces have, have accelerated and advanced when they start
saying his full name, it's not Abdul, but Abdul Rahman.
Yeah, Jeremiah Johnson has some words on this too.
Again, literally one of the most credentialed, one of the most well read people running for
senate right now
on either side
obviously
republicans are not exactly brilliant but it doesn't matter right
in this fucking dickhead
founder of cn liberalism
one of the worst things donald trump ingrained in america policy idea that
if your base like to enough you never have to back down or apologize for
anything does it matter
whether i'll do ever got his medical license or treated patients are at
residency in the context of a center on not especially for being real
but it seems indisputable that he was deliberately deceptive by using titles
like physician
playing up his doctor's credentials, talking about how he healed people, etc.
And even if you wanna say that's a gray area rather than a shred of lie, people used to
be embarrassed by that kind of deception.
It used to be normal for politicians to apologize for things, scandals used to matter.
Trump has taught everyone that you never need to apologize, never double down, triple down,
caught lying or doing something immoral or shady, mocked at people criticizing you.
Yeah, except he didn't do any of those things.
You're inventing an alternative reality where he did those things with the hopes that he's
doing it muslimically and therefore maybe some people will racially agree
with what i have to say
it's a last-ditch effort to try to undermine
the candidacy of a guy who is unbelievably credentialed not even against
his immediate primary opponents
hailey stevens in malry mcmarillan
and certainly against the general opponent mike rogers but also
in comparison to the rest of the fucking people running for office right now
and these guys are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and it's
It's going to fucking backfire spectacularly in their faces because again, this is hitting
him in an avenue where he is excelling, okay?
It is the equivalent of being like, well, Dr. Abdul El Sayed claims he can rep three
plates on his bench press, but here's a video showing he could only do three.
Three reps is not being able to rep, okay?
The distinction is very clear.
What else is Dr. Abdul Al Sayed lying about?
How many fucking, how many reps can Mallory McMoroll do on the bench press with what kind
of weight?
You know what I mean?
Do you understand?
I mean, it sounds like a silly argument that I'm proposing here, but like, it's that stupid.
You're hitting him on one of his strongest areas in his background.
Rally the base around you, attack rather than defend, you're actually proud of whatever
they're mad at.
Yeah, of course.
He should be.
He's a fucking doctor, man, suck my dick.
Ignoring the problem here, politicians used to be more honest before Donald Trump is not
a respectable thought for anyone over the age of 25 to hold. Oh man, Adam Johnson says,
I wonder what lobbies, industries and corporations funded that guys think tank. Exactly. These
guys have no motion and it's actually shocking how bad they are at shit slinging. It's actually
unbelievable how bad they are at shit slinging. Part of that is because there is no more like
gatekeeping with the advent and and now obviously major successes of independent media on the
internet. It's a lot more difficult to to get together and muster up the forces and just like
ritualistically humiliate certain candidates that you don't like because they're you know
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But yeah, corporate media saw Abdul poll this morning, panicked, and then Politico sent
Adam Renn, their 2020 Buttigiegs reporter, Liz Smith was Buttigieg's least consultant
and is now McMorrows, to put together this not-so-damning hit piece.
And then because they knew that there wasn't enough motion on the hit piece itself, and
I've met Adam Redd, I think he's a fine person, you know, but you got to make money somehow
I guess, and you could be a hatchet guy, for someone like Liz Smith, all right, swapping
to the other camera here. What Kami says, thank you for the 50 bones. Thank you Kami.
Thank you what Kami says.
Wait, this is not better, this is worse, what?
Oh, true, true, true.
uh...
to a stream
uh...
anyway
also here's uh...
here's some more uh... support
from uh... blue sky liberals were not
picking who are not actually on board with the show at all
turns out they are consistent in their walkness
they don't like grand platter but they love opto also had this was a question i
actually posed
uh... the the pod johns
when i talk to them i was like look
grand planner as red flags opto does not
so let's see if people are actually looking for
let's see if the democratic party bases truly looking for real fighters
who will push for medicare for all who question
our loyalty israel
or if they're just uh... enamored by grand platters uh... nazi tattoos in his
machine gunner background
And it turns out blue sky hated grandplanners, you know, Nazi tattoo, but certainly they, they, uh, love obdulance. I had McMorris team put their hit piece on blue sky and they're getting whoop.
Belt the ass over there.
He's an empty you decided to pursue a career in public health where he is a well-sighted academic professor and policymaker.
You can report this to a post. You can report this post of blue skies and misleading or containing false information about an election. I encourage everyone to do since they're literally lying done and done.
Turns out it was really fucking bad idea to post this. There's still time to delete it now
I lived in Michigan for many years and have a ton of respect for McMoroll
But you are burning through that respect quickly with this. I've seen this so many times
McMoroll was seemingly an inoffensive war and I when she started this okay when she started this journey
She was seen as an inoffensive war night
Is this better or work wait for the fuck
It's not. I'm trying to manage the camera. No, it's automatic. You got to do it from
the iPad. Yeah, can you do it from the iPad? You just close it. Yeah, yeah. This will be
better. Too much light. I know we're fixing it. Boom. Okay. Too much exposure. I know,
I know, I know. Calm down. Hold on. Okay, there we go. Right? This is good, right? Or
is it worse? I can't tell if it's better with the light on or off. Are you in a forest?
I am. Yes, I'm going to be linking up with Gabor Matay soon in a little bit. Where were
Let's continue. It's worse. Boom. This is good. How is Kanakhistan? Incredible. I love it. It's
fantastic. I feel spiritually Canadian every time I'm here. I always feel spiritually Canadian
because of my advocacy for Medicare for all, but I feel especially spiritually Canadian when I'm
here when I get to visit.
So yeah, people are people are not
fond of what Mallory McMorah is.
Mallory McMorah's team had to say about Dr.
Alvolo say he's literally an MD PhD
Rhodes Scholar Law.
Mallory you're under water by 77 points
among young voters.
Maybe focus on that.
No, she shouldn't focus on that.
She should read the writing on the wall. She should stay in the split Stevens voters. Oh my god
You're out of focus my guy. It doesn't matter. This is automatic camera. There's nothing I can do about it. Okay
Yeah
And one of the funniest things that happened in this process is that there was one of those guys
Who
Will will love to be noticed by me once again
But there's one dude who was like fucking crying apparently because I laughed
When I saw a photo of them they were shitting on Abdul al-sayed turns out that person is
Tweeted about me 1500 times in the year 2020. Okay?
You can't claim to be a former fan who gave all of their last remaining dollars when you were all but a child
Who's now a fallen fan?
If you've tweeted about me and and smeared me and also Abdul al-sayed
But smeared me specifically 1500 times after you became a destiny fan.
You really, I'm going to be honest, I'm going to be very sincere.
There are some of you that, you know, are in here right now because you are a part of this sex cult.
Okay?
You still have time to get out of it.
I say this all the time.
Okay?
I say this all the time.
I promise you, you will be healthier if you do.
Yeah, honestly, it's not should have been a lot meaner to a racist second shit like yourself.
Hey, I'll do those.
I see your doctor and all just curious.
Where did you do your residency?
Yeah, back in high school, the only money I had came from Christmas and birthday present.
I used to send money to a man.
I honestly thought it would have a good impact on the world.
Now that same man is mocking me and my peers leader years later.
What a world we live in, huh?
Okay.
You give me thirty five dollars
Okay, thirty five dollars
To create this sob story. He's tweeted about me in twenty six twenty twenty six alone
1,500 times, okay
1,500 times
Saying hey, no shit about me. Okay, literally all he does is fucking tweet about me and tweet about the left-flank candidates
Of course, I'm gonna laugh dude
Your worldview is is horrifying. It's bad if you want to fucking defeat fascist
You probably should lock in on tweeting 1500 times about fascist enablers and not someone like myself. Okay?
It's so unbelievably clear that for a lot of these people they develop
Parasocial relationships with certain content creators
maybe it's myself at some point and then they fall out of favor because I either yelled at them or banned them or
Said something that was like deeply personal to them and they were at odds with the way
I see the world and they didn't know how to fucking figure that out
They didn't know they didn't know that you can just like have
Disagreements with people on core issues right and still
Still have a deeper understanding that we're fighting the same fight we're fighting against fascism
Right and
And and when that happens a lot of people a
Lot of people I think lose their fucking minds dude by the way, I'm a rare case
There's no every fucking time I escaped the cult of us on it was hard
But I did it and Steven Bonnell helped me get out of it now
I actually think of my think for myself and defend my political positions brother
You are literally talking about a guy who platformed white nationalist and white supremacist over and over again
who was in a current court case for revenge pornography that he distributed to an underage
person who that very same court case openly showed he was trying to procure CSAM from.
I don't know what to tell you, you should probably be a little bit more embarrassed about admitting
that this is your guy.
I mean, his son is a fucking Nazi.
He can't even convert his son out of being a grouper.
Are we ready to go?
All right, we are now going to head over.
We are now going to head over to the Web Summit, okay?
Or I will be talking to esteemed scholar,
DeBourg Maté, very excited for the opportunity.
We're going to be talking about loneliness in the end of empire.
And I will.
You think so.
Okay. All right. We'll fuck it. We'll do that.
Yeah, sure. Where's the web summit?
Okay. I'll just.
Uh, Web Summit YouTube live right now.
Okay, um, we're gonna be, we're gonna be playing this as a backup as a failsafe because we
already have the Web Summit, but we're gonna swap over to the Web Summit direct feed when
it's actually, um, when it's actually time for me to speak.
Okay, chatters.
We'll see you on the other side.
Music
Give me your face, Mike.
I can't, cause I'll put away the person you're...
Okay.
It's just you and me, Chad.
It's dark.
I know you're scared.
I know.
Hello, Chad.
I guess that's also true.
That is what happens.
He yells at me while he's pissing.
There's no privacy here.
There's no separation.
Okay.
This is next to me. Shit's next to me.
Yells are made- Yells commands to me from the fucking toilet.
Also, yes, I know it's dark.
If the darkened stream lights are off, yeah, I guess it's cranky, then you crank it.
Yeah, in the sun, tell you guys all that's my luggage.
I didn't have a shower, but we chopped over here.
You didn't have to.
Hi, Chad Bucks.
Oh, man.
I have that one guy on Instagram stuck in my head.
Like one guy that's real stuck in my head, he goes up to cops or like uniformed agents
and he's like, oh man, I wish somebody would want to date me.
I'm just too ugly
Yeah
I know I'm kind of suspect about that too was it showing that on your yeah. Yeah, it's the same thing. That's the feed
Which is just me recording yeah, I know that it that is the ultimate fail safe
The epic-ass music in the background.
Yeah, go ahead, girl.
Give us nothing is what the Web Summit is doing right now.
How are you feeling?
Pretty good.
I mean, I'm a little worried about the conversation,
because the Bormont is a well-respected scholar,
and I am a dickhead twist-roomer.
So I always feel like I'm not worthy
to be around these people,
let alone have a conversation with them
about complex issues.
Thank you for your time.
I also initially thought that we were going to talk exclusively about, like,
you
you
Okay, so great.
Oh, does it say first in English? Oh, it's online again. Okay. Boom.
Let's get into our uber to take us there
Yes, that's for me. Yes, that's for me
What is happening? How many gears does he have? What the f**k?
Yeah, right here is good. Thanks.
Okay.
What's going on? Nice to meet you.
Hi, Mark. Nice to meet you.
So thank you
Thank you
Oh, yeah, let's do it.
We're going to be watching the full time.
OK, just so you guys know.
All right.
So I don't know if there's, is there
any limitations on the green room or like the back?
Because in Qatar, there was an area where like the people.
The backstage and back of the speaker lounge?
The party?
Uh-huh.
The backstage is the second stage.
Just out of the courtesy of not showing employees' faces during chess camp chat, please hold.
Yeah, yeah, we're going to be filming, first I'm going to do a press conference.
So we're at Web Summit in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, on stolen land.
I'm not exactly sure which indigenous First Nations
the Canadians stole this land from,
but we're doing a land acknowledgement, of course.
And we are going to be doing a press conference
in approximately 15 minutes, usually the way it works.
This is what I did in Doha as well.
I do a press conference beforehand,
there's a bunch of press, a bunch of media there.
They ask questions.
And then afterwards, we go on stage.
I don't know if it's the main stage or not,
but we go on stage and we have a conversation.
I'm gonna be talking to the Bormate.
Tim, show them.
Is that where we're at?
We're gonna be at center stage.
Wow, what a draw.
Have people complained about my,
there were a few of them back sideline.
Oh, really? Having such dangerous figures such as myself?
Dude, it's really crazy because I feel like
given the ideological
diversity of a lot of the people that attend this event,
I would say I'm not even in the top. Hey, what's up?
Nice to meet you. Oh, thank you.
Whoa, look at that.
What's up? Sure, I'm one of the, I would say least offensive.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
Always an interesting crowd in the Web Summit.
at least from what I've seen
thank you
okay thank you hi hi that's on nice to meet you
okay that's fine
Everyone's Irish. Everyone's Irish.
I don't know how to open this. It's too complex for me.
For my dumb brain. My dumb ogre brain.
Oh, boom. I think I got it. Nope, never mind.
Oh, I got it.
What is happening?
13 notification, 14, 15 notifications.
Jesus Christ.
Oh God, I don't even want to say.
I'm clearing it.
It's lost in show.
It's not. It's politicals.
Not politicals. Wait, where is it in here?
So we're just kind of trying to maybe, uh,
I
Can
Chill I don't even I'll go against the wall if you need to yeah, we don't care
Here we got a hell yeah, look at that
That's cool. Not. It's got everything you need.
It put us in the cut corner. This place has everything we need.
Yeah. Okay. But yeah, we're here in Vancouver Bridge, Columbia at the Web Summit.
I'm going to be talking to Gabor Montain a little bit.
And many of you have probably seen
Gabor Mate's work.
Some of you might know, like my mom,
about his books.
My mom read one of his books about trauma.
I need to figure out what all of his books are right now
so I can say it on stage.
But this is supposed to be a conversation.
It's not moderated.
It's just like me and him.
And the stream is trying to make it.
So that was the guy in between.
Yeah, OK.
It's good to know.
Yeah, that was probably when they were like going in
between speakers.
But yeah, we're going to have a very short 30-minute
conversation, I believe, just like we did last time in Doha.
40 minutes.
40-minute conversation.
Ooh, it's longer.
40-minute conversation.
Yeah, Gabor Maté aged 82 years, born in Nazi occupied Hungary on January 6, 1944.
Gabor Maté is a Canadian physician, an author who specializes in childhood development and trauma,
a leading figure in the field of addiction, known for his compassionate approach and work with intercity drug users in Vancouver.
were challenges conventional medical and psychological narratives arguing that
many conditions treated with pharmaceuticals are rooted in unresolved
trauma okay and his last book that came out in 2021 that took almost a decade to
write is called the myth of normal trauma illness and healing in the toxic
culture I will be talking to Dr. Gabor Mate about trauma and loneliness at the
end of empire. We'll of course talk about, we'll of course talk about the shared struggles of the
international working class, systems of fascist oppression, ranging from Nazi Germany to what
the Zionist occupation is doing to Palestinians in Gaza, and overall loneliness that people feel
and what kind of trauma that contributes to... Wait, is it upside down?
Yeah, it was. Yeah, it's supposed to be up like that.
But isn't that supposed... What is this thing? Is it Star Trek?
It looks like that. I don't know. You tell me.
Chatters, what is it? I don't know what this is.
It is Star Trek. Well, you're right. It is Star Trek.
I thought they were about to clap on you super hard, but you were right.
Why are you shocked by my brilliance?
Is Star Trek, canonically communist?
Yeah, like 100%. It's actually like, Star Trek is known as probably one of the most popular works that's like openly communist.
The Federation is like a states list, money list, class list, utopian society.
I never saw it.
Yeah. I didn't either. I just know from, you know, just know from knowing things.
I guess I don't know. Yeah, it's a socialist utopia. Star Trek is gay space
communism. Star Trek, not Star Wars. Yeah.
No concept of money like yours beyond our brains.
Dude, I have a bunch of notes that I wrote down, and I'm worried that I'm going to forget
all of it.
Hopefully, I don't forget all of my notes.
Okay, I'm forgetting all of my notes already, god damn it.
Chuck, give me some quick questions.
What would you ask Gabor Mate?
Yeah, that's totally going to yield great results.
Yeah, no, that's definitely not going to work, is it?
Okay, I'm freaking out a little bit.
Title of our speech is, Lowliness at the End of Empire.
In this conversation, Dr. Gabor Mate and his Hampak Air Explorer, Loneliness is a defining
feature of life in the waning phase of Western hegemony, tracing out trauma, disconnection,
and feelings of unfulfillment can be systemic and not just personal. They discuss how a
period marked by inequality, media saturation, and political fragmentation create a sense
of decline, which calls for new forms of connection and solidarity. Dr. Rubor Mate's latest book
is titled, The Myth of Normal, Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic Culture.
Okay? I'm going to ask him about atomization, how much it accelerated after COVID, obviously.
I'm going to first start by saying, Dr. Gabor-Matte, how do you define trauma? What is trauma?
I know this is a cliche and you've probably answered this a million times over.
But Dr. Gabor-Matte, how do you define trauma?
In your view, Dr. de Bormente, how has trauma worsened overall in modernity?
I do also want to talk to them about toxic spaces on the internet, because obviously
as a content creator, I have a community on the internet, a community that grew in COVID
times and trouble sometimes when a lot of young people had nothing else to do and
they were stuck indoors and they were looking for a sense of purpose, a sense
of belonging, and I tried to do my very best to ensure that there was a productive
community. But as we all know in the age of toxicity on the internet there's a
lot of vulgar and reactionary communities that form on the internet. How
How do you feel this accelerates the atomization?
And how does this contribute to the systems that divide us rather than unite us?
Is that a good question, Chad?
Am I cooking?
Oh, no.
What the frick is my internet not freaking working?
There's something getting up to fire writing.
Okay.
I'm going to ask him.
You can also ask how trauma manifests in individuals versus groups versus society tight.
is stochastic terror? For sure.
Why do you think young men are more prone to fall into the far-right pipeline?
That's a good one, too.
No, asking what the best kind of cheese is? Yeah, that's good.
You know, an unbelievably important scholar
in the field of psychology, and you're like,
what's your favorite cheese?
What if he says he's lactose intolerant, chat?
You ever think about that?
This rise in atomization, in our increasing,
Polarizing political environment, get in, now, environment, get in, environment, increase
I don't want to talk about like, you know, is it BN to pull your phone out during I don't know
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a website.
It's a tech summit.
All these people have.
I think I got a clot open.
Yeah.
As opposed to other summits.
As opposed to other summits where it's not frowned upon to pull out your phone in a summit
that has nothing to do with phones.
Exactly.
We got out of the end of the news, out of the end of the news, we have a certain discussion.
You know, in terms of the end of the news part...
Chatter goes... Chatter, instead of fucking writing about what questions I should ask,
is basically saying, trauma is a very dynamic and complex.
It can be caused by a lot of different experiences.
It's made a negative impact on our brains, affecting our nervous system.
Just guessing now.
It's not about what the most obvious or serious... Okay, dude.
Okay, dude.
I know that is Gabor in the chat.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, Gabor, in the chat.
This is an interesting question.
Psychology is a liberal individualizing discipline
as opposed to sociology, which is more left wing,
because it's a structural issues
rather than individuals, good sociology at least.
I mean, I don't think he's gonna like that question,
but it'll be interesting.
Like, okay, yeah, great.
Now that you know that Chateau, but we're talking to the person who literally wrote the book on loneliness and addiction.
Yeah, I will be asking him about how we heal.
And is there an opportunity to heal?
I will also ask him about normalcy, because he talks about like normal not being a concept at all.
and and being somewhat of a like a damaging perspective which cuts directly
against my number one advocacy which is just be normal yeah I don't know if we
can touch on that he's gonna debate me and destroy me in the marketplace right
What if I were to debate him and destroy him?
I'm trying to open the secret pocket for discarded Zinn dispersal.
Right in there.
I'm kidding.
It's good for the wife.
Joking.
Locars, it's a joke.
This child has never been normal?
No, he's a legalized guy.
I am genuinely worried about...
I am genuinely worried about him potentially psychoanalyzing me on that stage and cooking
my ass because I've seen him do that to people before.
He did it to the Samanaj as well.
He's here.
Look at you and be like, I don't have enough time.
He's going to look at me and be like, here are all of the unresolved childhood traumas
that you have.
I'm going to leak them in broad daylight.
Look, yeah, I would love that.
See, that's what I mean.
It would validate probably a lot of my experience with you.
Yeah, like what?
Wow.
He's too scared to even say it.
He's too scared because I beat him.
I'm just holding the camera, man.
Yeah, keep holding the camera, bitch.
I think we have some meetings after as well,
but I don't even know if they know that we're
going to be live through them.
So.
Do you?
I don't know.
I didn't see anything about that.
There's a 250 with the CEO.
Oh.
You speak it.
Three, 20.
OK.
You can run around with the camera.
What?
Oh, what?
Because that's going to be in the speaker lounge, I think.
I might have to go to the background.
You're going to go to the back rooms?
Yeah, the back rooms.
Surely that can be a stream, you know. Don't leave me alone with them.
I mean, I am going to go talk to AI.
AI started, bros.
Yeah.
I'm going to learn about AI. I'm going to AI in large-ass.
That's how I said, R-chat.
I wonder if this press run will be interesting.
There's got to be some right-wing outlets there that are going to be like, how do you
feel about your presence being unbelievably scary to the Jewish community of Vancouver
or some fear?
Some prominent people have pulled out of their appearances as a direct consequence of your
appearance.
How do you feel like your individual physical presence contributes to anti-Semitism everywhere
you go as a scary Muslim man?
I'm gonna crack it.
You just see them in a tech conference.
anyway. Wait, what was I looking at before? Oh, I was going to talk about Mike Lawler.
Who, chat, who got the link? Give me that Mike Lawler link, because we're not done yet.
We're going to talk about Mike Lawler. So as you guys know, Mike Lawler is a Republican
congressman from New York. Okay, he's in a purplish district that is going to be flipped.
Hopefully in the hands of Effie Phillips-Daley, if we are, if we are capable of advancing
her through the Democratic Party's primaries, okay?
And Mike Lawler has, of course, complained about anti-Semism growing.
On the left, he's directly attacked me as an arch anti-Semite alongside New Jersey Democratic
Congressperson, Josh Budheimer, okay?
However, it turns out Mike Lawler has been on the receiving end of what might be an anti-Semitic
line of attack. Even though he himself is not Jewish. Rescorman reports. Rescorman,
not us reporter, notice reporter, says new, Senator Rand Paul's son drunkenly accosted
and hurled anti-Semitic insults at Representative Mike Lawler at a Capitol Hill bar on Tuesday
night. His son told Lawler that if Rep. Thomas Massie loses, it's going to be because of
your people.
My people, Lawler asked Paul.
Yeah, you Jews, Paul responded.
Do you think I'm Jewish, Lawler asked?
I'm not.
Oh, wow.
I'm so sorry for calling you a Jew, Paul said.
He then said that Jews were anti-American,
and how Lawler and his Jewish supporters
served Israel more than America.
Of course knew that Mike Lawler was not Jewish, but it is very funny that someone was like, oh, you love Israel so much
You must be Jewish and then apologized. Oh, I'm sorry for thinking you were Jewish. What an insane world
We live in that's what that's Mike Lawler's party
That's the kind of shit that's going on on the right. Meanwhile, Mike Lawler is attacking me
Okay, there's only one group
in even the...
In the bipartisan...
In the bipartisan condemnation efforts
shepherded by Mike Lawler and Josh Budheimer.
There's only one group of people that were actually anti-Semitic.
And that wasn't the left.
That was the right.
Whoa.
We're gonna put this jacket.
This is a real question.
Can I take this? Do you want it?
No, no worries.
Yo, what's good?
How are you doing?
We're about to do a press conference.
I see you again, you're back in contact.
I see you again.
OK.
Press conference with three-minute creator, Hasan Beiger.
He's starting now.
Hasan will deliver his opening remarks,
and then we'll open the floor for questions.
OK.
Now where should I stand?
Wait.
We need to go to a tight five.
We need to get to a tight five.
Hello.
It's a real honor to be in front of you today in Vancouver.
in a not so sunny day.
I did not realize that I was supposed
to deliver some remarks at the beginning of this
before taking some questions from everyone,
even though I did do this in Doha as well.
And I think I delivered some remarks then.
Very excited to be here in spite of the many complaints
coming from numerous groups, numerous advocacy groups.
I am honored to sit on a stage alongside the Bormante,
esteemed author, very important scholar, academic,
and advocate as well.
Initially, I thought our conversation was
going to revolve entirely around Israel-Palestine,
but it turns it out, I found out later,
that it's actually about loneliness at the end of empire,
which again, I think, in many respects,
will probably revolve around not only Israel-Palestine,
but American imperialism and the atomization
that American capitalism or global capitalism
has caused, especially in the Western world.
And hopefully, we'll be able to arrive
at some productive answers on how to solve that problem.
Not entirely certain how we'll do it,
but I do know that this issue in and of itself
is perhaps one of the most consequential problems
facing, especially young men nowadays.
This is a field that I am intimately familiar with.
I was once a young man myself, now I'm 34.
And of course, on the sector that I'm in,
and the industry that I'm in, some people
are throwing up their hands.
But in the industry that I'm in, when you're 34, you're onk.
And he's onkel for the people in the room.
And by the time you get to 35, you
get to OG status when you're grand up, basically. You're dead. You're just one foot of the grave.
However, there is a real crisis that young men are facing out. Young people in general
are facing similar crises, but young men in particular have lashed out in a violent matter
to the excesses and to all of the struggles born about the current economic organization
society that we exist under. There's a real environment of hopelessness. There is a real
trajectory in the Western world that I would say is disdoward and many people are seeing
it and many people are recognizing these contributions and instead of trying to find more meaningful
and more productive ways of organizing, unfortunately they're doing what young men have historically
done, which is to violently lash out at whoever they possibly can. Oftentimes in
their immediate vicinity, and then sometimes it manifests itself in attempted
assassinations of the current president of the United States, Donald Trump. So I
want to put an end to decentralized violence, I want to put an end to all
violence, and hopefully we can find some kind of productive solution, maybe not
today, but hopefully in the future. So thank you. I will now take questions.
Any questions? Please say your name and a finish before you pose your question. Thank you.
Hi, Tom Stoneman from Needserver. I really enjoy your broadcasts and stuff and I'm quite a bit over than you are.
are definitely grand, grand, grand, and probably genics.
And one thing that I feel often when
I listen to shows of your generation
is that the alienation and the disillusionment and all that,
it seems like it's, and I agree that these young people definitely
have a lot less state in today's society.
But the disillusionment is across generations.
So I just wonder what you would say
about what is your perception of other generations
and do you see that disillusionment
and do you connect with those other generations
and are you working with them, I guess?
Because I still go to New York when I hear
not just your podcast, but others that just say,
hey, I agree 100% and I'm behind you and I support you.
Yeah, thank you for that question.
So I probably had a more reactionary opinion
non-generational politics than what is usually discussed in the Marxist tradition for a very
long time growing up as a young man at some point in America, where I also felt vindictive
about boomers, right? Not in your generation, but basically anyone over the age of 35 at
the time. And I always thought, you know, boomers, all they did was take, take, take
to a society that was designed for them and one where they refused to give back to the
upcoming generation. I now realize, especially traveling all around the country, going to
no-kings protests and rallies all around, that boomers are actually at the forefront
of this movement against Donald Trump. Donald Trump is a mere expression, I think, of the
The growth of the liberalism is a reaction to capitalism and the inequality that is created.
But there are a lot of people who are over the age of 65 even who see the problems that
I see and actually want to go out and do something about it.
Although just like my generation, they also feel a little rudderless because there's
no organizational capacity that can take this frustration,
this animosity towards the systems that bind us
and organize against it to achieve successful results.
So the very same thing that I try to do for young men
and young people in general, the very same solutions
that I have for them, which is to go out, touch,
organize, join some kind of community organizing, organizing the workplace.
That same suggestion exists for people who are older as well.
Those who are in Gen X and maybe even boomers.
So that's my solution and I think that it is a shared struggle to the United One
and it's not a real, a generational gap even though I think if we do look at it,
Obviously, the money class, if you were to break it by,
generations would still be the current retiring class
that owns most of the assets in American
and much of the Western world as well.
But they have younger relatives.
One of the examples I would use is the race of Anna Lilliam
A. in New Jersey.
Anna Lillia was a labor organizer.
she came from this unique background for her district.
There was another Democrat, an establishment Democrat,
Tom Elinowski, who was slated to win.
Obviously, K-Pi came into the race
because Tom Elinowski had dared to question
unconditional support to Israel.
And they dumped a lot of money into that race
and actually called him in question,
Tom Elinowski's record on ICE.
He had in the past funded ICE, and the voters actually
found Tom insufficient.
So they dug deep, and they searched for an alternative,
and they found Anna-Lillian Meia, who
was in favor of the abolition of ICE.
And this is an older district.
We're talking about the Democratic Party's primaries
in a special election.
The highest turnout in special elections
in the primaries of the Democratic Party
are always going to be older.
They're going to be wealthier.
They're going to be better educated.
And more often than not, they're going
to be more conservative than the younger demographic that
often doesn't even participate or even know
that there are special elections taking place
at a little primary.
And yet, they were in favor of the candidate that
was invested in the abolition of ICE.
This to me shows, or at least the conversations
that I had with my friends from this district,
even amongst older populations is that,
will they have younger children that are experiencing
these crisis and they also feel a little hopeless about the future of America and they want
to fix it and now they're willing to take what they previously would have assumed as
a risk with a Boulder candidate, the Bernie Crats. And you see the rise, this resurgence,
or at least the insurgency campaigns of Bernie Crats all around Grand Planner and made
is a great example of this as well.
Maine is a very old state, very white state.
And the Democratic Party voters in the state of Maine
were often not vote first out of few candidates.
And they chose Grant Plattner, a person
with no political background, a machine donor, oyster farmer,
if that's the proper term for it, lost her man,
as he likes to call himself, over the governor of the state,
Janet Mills.
And I saw these town halls that Grand Planner was laying on.
Towns that were 500 people, and there
would be 1,000 people at those town halls, packed arenas,
packed rooms, auditoriums, with people
that were over the age of 65, very dizzily,
an older crowd, very white crowd, an affluent crowd,
that was also demanding this exact same change.
So I think the time for serious seismic shifts
in American politics, especially in the Democratic Party,
is now, and that is only because not only young people
feeling a sense of hopelessness and demanding
some sort of change, that's usually an ever-present
fixture in politics, but it's also the older people as well.
So I think we're there.
Hopefully, that was a good answer for your question.
Hi.
So you wanted to mark a link.
So it might even be fair to say that the fascist majority of us
live in echo chambers.
Without the backing of traditional media,
or the budget that traditional media has,
what is the strategy to amplify a message?
I don't know.
I was very reluctant at first when
I was growing my community and growing my audience
to even do mainstream media hits.
There would still be people who were invested in niche stages
that were growing on the internet when I had a couple
of thousand people watching me.
And I usually shied away from talking to a much larger
platform, because I felt like it would invite tremendous
screwed me, given my political position.
Nowadays, it's virtually impossible for me
to have that mentality, everything I say.
Apparently, Fox News literally has people
that watch my stream throughout the entire day
to clip certain things out.
And they work in unison with the RNC,
where they materialize clips and try
to generate controversy off of things that I'm saying.
But I guess that's one way to reach a broader audience.
even if unintentional. So there's that. But I guess networking is another great way to do it,
trying to communicate with different communities, different interest groups that are completely
outside of your specific field of interest. Although I'm a political commentator now by trade,
if you want to call it that, I'm a Twitch streamer at the end of the day. I have always
collaborated with content creators of many different backgrounds that have no
investment whatsoever in the realm of politics because at the end of the day
my job is to reach as many people as possible and try to explain to them that
you know there's someone out there fucking over and and try to move the
overall generalized anxiety that they might feel and harness that energy to
to build a more productive, organized movement
that will try and solve some of these problems.
Hi, me and my name is, yeah.
I was a British citizen.
As you know in Trans-Election in 24,
Fungalov, his work has turned out to be young men,
young men across ethnicities.
How do you see that changing in the,
you know, the return study now?
Do you think it's changing whatever was driving them to look for him at that point?
Or do you see that going to 100 million?
Absolutely.
So, one of the things that I talked about quite a bit and tried to communicate to the Democratic Party,
both the DNC and certainly after the DNC, was this fear that I had,
that young men who had not experienced, and not just young men, but just young people in general,
who had not fully experienced the first Trump term
would increasingly be invested in making a risky bet
and vote for Donald Trump as he presented himself
once again as the outsider candidate.
So there were a lot of first time voters
and low propensity voters that Donald Trump
was able to activate once again just like he did,
not in 2020, but in 2016.
One of the problems that I kept pointing to
was the fact that the reason that Donald Trump won
in 2016 against an established candidate with the pedigree
and also the experience in governance,
like Hillary, Rod, and Clinton,
was because people wanted to make significant changes.
People demanded these changes.
They wanted someone who was against the establishment
because for the longest time,
even under the Barack Obama administration for two turns,
they felt like they were robbed in some way.
They felt like their material conditions were worsening.
So they decided to make a risky bet
and vote for an incompetent, entitled, arrogant,
inexperienced, moron like Donald Trump.
They proto-fascist in 2016, and I would
certainly a fascist in 2024, but it was very obvious to me and this is the second
thing that I mentioned over and over again that once Trump won, that it would be
very clear that he was not going to accomplish his agenda, his promises and
we've obviously seen that from the the Liberation Day tariffs and its impact
on the economy to his inability, inability to address the inflation
crisis that people are still suffering through and his lack of overall interest in improving
people's control conditions and his investment in actually worsening that caused a lot of
young men who voted for him perhaps for the first time as a risky gamble to very quickly
realize that he was just lying.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they're invested in the alternative either.
So the most successful, the most resilient way to combat fascism is to give an ownership
stake to these young men, to show them, to prove to them that you are actually invested
in bettering their lives.
Unfortunately, the Democratic Party has since fallen short of that promise, and that's part
of the reason why, despite being the opposition party, their approval ratings are still growing
underwater because their own base doesn't trust them and
It seems like they're too invested in not combatting Trump or fascism necessarily
But maintaining the power center that they have corporate Democrats are too busy
Not really trying to undermine Trump's agenda with the limited amount of power that they have if they have any power at all
But instead focusing on silly battles that they are waging in the primaries right now
Against even people like myself a torch shooter
So, that shows you where they're at and what their primary interests are, but that weakness
also yields some promise, some opportunity, because there are a lot of people who want
an alternative and they're increasingly willing to make that bet on the left-wing candidates
that are running the surging campaigns, oftentimes not just against the Republican Party, which
we all oppose, but also even against the corporate Democrats as well.
In my experience, I think that's the most successful way to win over young men, and that's
precisely what has happened with Zoran Mondani's rise in the New York mayoral primaries, and
then the general as well.
There are a coalition of voters that left the party behind, and the 24 election, young
men, Latino voters in general, they're coming back.
They're coming back to vote for Zoram-Amdani.
They're coming back to vote for a lot of these left-flank
Bernie credits.
And those were coalitions that Bernie actually
was very successful with.
So I think there is an opportunity here.
It's just up to the Democratic Party to seize it.
Or hopefully, because they're so incompetent,
so factless, submit to the will of the people.
I know there are still a lot of questions, unfortunately Hassan has a lot of commitments, so we have to wrap up.
But thanks so much for attending, and thanks Hassan for the fun.
Thank you very much, you guys.
Okay.
I should have-
Thanks to the founder of the Islamic Co-Founders of the Black High Peace, and the founder of the Samo, so please, uh, attend the next one too.
I should have done the Admiral Zukov and just fucking threw the jacket off.
Of course. Thank you.
Hey, what's good? How you doing?
Pretty good so far? Gloomy day?
This is I see this and I immediately am fearful.
I mean, not only hantavirus, but also just like I've always been anti-cruise.
You've always been anti-cruise.
I've always been anti-cruise guy.
Yeah, well, I think there's a lot of reasons to be anti-cruise these days.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Now I'm proven to be correct all over again.
So you just called them floating lavatories.
Yeah.
What's been going on since the last race?
Um, I don't know if you've been following the American news, but no, I really shouldn't stay out of it.
Yeah, well, that's good. If there's nothing productive happening in American news, I'll tell you that much.
But I've been I've become public enemy number one.
That's a weird one to me.
Yeah, is this shocking to you?
There's a lightly left kind of fella.
Yeah, just a little bit.
But that's enough for people to lose their minds.
People have been crazy.
Yeah.
I've been declared public entity number one by the Republicans, which is normal, obviously,
that's expected.
But then also by some corporate Democrats as well.
But it's backfired on them spectacularly.
Yeah.
Where it, they tried to attack one of the...
Big pimpers.
Yeah.
Doctor.
Hello.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
Yeah, we're gonna be having a conversation a little bit, right?
little bit right or right now so I'm 25 minutes oh in 25 minutes okay whatever
they tell me okay yeah no I've seen I'm very excited now I know I know both
Aaron and Daniel oh yeah quite well I've worked with them in the past so I'm
really excited to have a conversation with you as well I just a headline about
you today on the Duff Center but you endorse somebody and they became a favorite
Yeah, I'll do the whole side of it.
I'm sure you must be a problem with that.
No.
Cool, guys.
Come on.
Save this.
Save this for the station.
All right.
Okay, perfect.
Hey, what's good?
I was just saying, I was just telling your dad, I know you.
Yes, and Danny.
Yes.
Yeah, Aaron Maté, everybody.
How are you doing?
Good, man.
It was good.
Thank you.
I'm trying to fool the boomers that watch Fox News and they're thinking my opinion is
worth a damn.
Because they care about the optics so much.
I like it. Oh shit. C-plane.
C-plane. Sorry. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, B-E-H-D. That knows quite a bit about it.
You have to talk all about it. Yeah, we can talk all about it.
I don't want to talk about it, because I feel like he's going to be like,
She's like, please, bro, please.
Let's go for three minutes for this meeting.
Oh, I just, I'm sorry.
Oh, this is Gatmore's wife, and I'm ready.
Oh, hi.
Hi, nice to meet you.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm going to go here, because I'm pretty pretty.
Oh, great. Okay. I'm glad. Thank God
We've been on you the entire time. Oh, look who it is. Look who it is. I heard you uh
You're a rabble wrap you created quite the controversy. Oh shit
We're streaming by the way.
How are you doing?
You've been wearing the hoodie every day, huh?
That's crazy.
Yesterday I didn't wear it.
Okay, so it's good to wear it today.
It's Patty.
Patty is the CEO or co-founder of the website.
Everything works on it.
So let's look at this little cheat sheet.
Oh, wow. What does it say? It's not accurate. Oh, it's not dangerous. The interesting is the semi do not platform
How's it been good? What about you? You're on stage? Sure. Yeah
It's been
It's been interesting since the last time I did one of these there's been a lot of controversy
Yeah, sometimes even from what I said on stage in bill. I actually yeah Jewish insider and a bunch of other advocacy
organizations like Zionist advocacy organizations or they pounced on me
saying that the the systemic forces of the Israeli apartheid absolutely
contributed to the events that unfolded the tragic events that are holding on
October 7th and they were like that's I can't believe you saying that and it's
like you know who else was saying that the Haritz editorial board on October 8th
2023 but they just maybe they were mad I was saying it muslimically or something
Yeah, there were also people upset that you were speaking at Web Summit. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what it would come on
You got to give me something
Really lots of people on that well a few people on acts kind of tech tech names who
No, thanks David Curtis Yarvin, but that's so strange because like I feel like he is a far more impactful person as far as his like direct allegiances
He has a line of communication with some of the most powerful individuals in not just
American society, but around the globe, right?
Like Peter Thielen and whatnot.
And from their perspective, that's nothing, because they're not, I think, you know what
I think it is?
I think it's because I don't have a buy-in, I don't have a stake in the current way,
the current design, and that's what really frustrates people, or at least that's what
I've seen really frustrates even the Democrats who've been coming after me
quite a bit too.
Why are the Democrats coming after you?
They're really scared right now.
They're really weak and they're really scared that, you know, they're going to
actually have to respond to the voters because there's like too many success
stories of like, you know, the Bernie crats that are running all around the
country because their attitude always has been, oh, you have to listen to us
because if we don't run moderates like corporate Democrats,
or Israel Democrats, then like they'll lose in the general.
And it's like more and more people are like,
but you keep losing in the general to Donald Trump.
So I think we're gonna try this new thing.
And they're really worried that there's gonna be
more Zoran style insurgencies that win.
There's a politician, congressman,
who's been to Web Summit a number of times
over many years, Ro Khanna.
Oh, Ro Khanna, yeah, I know him very well.
What does he say to him over this?
He is, he's really interesting,
because I like him a lot.
He is someone who's been around for quite a while,
and he's always had this very interesting perspective,
because he's a Silicon Valley guy,
so there's obviously numerous interests at play
from his constituents and corporate benefactors,
but then also he's at times been a lone voice.
He's done a phenomenal job with the Epstein stuff, obviously.
And then he's really spearheaded a lot of the,
I guess the few initiatives that have been impactful
that have any sort of Democrat attached to it,
Rokan is there.
And he has definitely changed not only his style,
but also his advocacy since the last time,
like the first time I talked to him in person was at the DNC
where he was shy about even calling
what Israel's doing in genocide, he actually stopped me.
When I said, like, you know,
Israel's an apartheid, he's doing a genocide,
he's like, well, I wouldn't use those terms.
And now you hear him, like, spearheading this effort.
So nobody's put money behind unseating him in Silicon Valley?
Oh, they have, yeah.
Okay, okay.
There's some guy, but they always have,
they're always have a guy, they always find someone
that will try and unseat these politicians.
But oftentimes, if they have good constituent services,
it doesn't work, right?
like AOC is now undefeated in that district, right?
They've tried with Ihan Omar,
they've traveled with Shidatulib.
It doesn't work.
Are you kicking us out?
Am I out?
Yeah, it's fine.
I think it's Gabor next,
who's being interviewed on stage by Hassan.
Okay.
All right.
Well, they know each other, I'm sure.
Yeah, yeah, we just met outside.
If he's down.
Yeah, you can explain.
Yeah, same for the pod, no?
Saved for the positive.
Not on his mind.
It's on his mind.
So what do you?
Maybe we have to bring it to the station.
OK.
So it's only going to be a two or three minister saying hello
to Gabor, I think.
Yeah.
Look, the photo that you're using of me?
I mean, you know, you probably shouldn't show that.
But the photo that you're using of me there,
I'm wearing suits, and I'm a suit guy.
You're a suit guy?
I'm a suit guy now because I realized
I was scaring all the wrong people.
No, you're absolutely right.
People think just because I started wearing suits
that I'm running for office.
I'm like, I'm not, I'm not even remotely interested in that.
So dumb, but they're like, in their minds,
their old guard mentality is,
oh, of course you want to run for office.
That's the best thing you could possibly do.
Meanwhile, half of the people that are in positions of power
in the current administration are like,
oh, I can't get, wait to get back to my podcasting job.
I'll come, I'll come, I'll come and say it out for my place.
Let's go.
We can leave, yeah, we can leave if they want to.
Let him have their intro.
We actually just need to get your mic up for Sage.
Okay.
Let's do it.
Can we do the introduction stage stuff or something?
Absolutely.
You're doing the intro on stage?
What's the final stage?
Hell yeah.
I don't know.
Radical...
He's a suit guy now.
Yeah, I'm a suit guy now.
A lot of change.
A lot of change.
A lot of change.
A lot of change is the last time you saw me.
I would have heard that.
It's about...
I'm going to get in.
Alright, let's do it.
Wow, it's so beautiful.
I have played in champion.
He's playing since I didn't win that time out of this one where I came to University versus Columbia.
huge theater, sold out, and like two minutes was dope.
It was about, pretty much the American isolation,
the end of American empire, and like what middle powers
are doing, you know.
You got caught in kind of an attack here.
Yeah, no, I know.
It was like right after Mark's Carnies,
the Davos speech too.
And I was like a little excited about what he had said,
And I was like, we'll see what happens if it's all talk, no show.
And so far it's been all talk, no show, of course.
I don't know why I thought like a banker was going
to be an anti-imperialist force that rips apart.
Wait, he can't come in here with us?
No, he can't.
You can't?
No.
This was the answer.
I haven't like access to all the friends.
So only the other guys I don't have.
So he had to come from Korea.
But we're streaming this right now.
Who do you need me to get to the first?
Oh, just like the friend.
Oh, random note.
Yeah, just like that.
Okay.
Okay, he's not in this room.
Oh, yeah, just for the answer.
So, he didn't go himself.
Chad, I'm getting lost.
Like you can go, but like I have to go.
Oh, no.
Yeah, but he's like okay, so you good to go.
Yeah, that's all good. Don't worry about it.
Because like only people have only this side.
Oh, yeah, it's easy.
So they can go and like um, like gas that only as long as they're here.
Yeah.
So he looks good.
He's good.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh, look, look, look, look at your face cutters.
Wait, you think I need it?
Damn, that's crazy.
Thank you.
I never, I never do makeup.
We know.
Your hair, I know.
You can tell wow, this is crazy. I come here just to be humiliated
How many minutes do we have we have
Okay, so we're just here to be chilling
Okay, perfect. I'll just wait here
Well, I mean maybe
No, I want to get a plate of food. No, I said maybe we'll get makeup. That's crazy.
I don't want to get makeup.
I don't like makeup.
You don't want to get a full beat going with the fox? No. The fox makeup?
I don't need it. I mean, I just don't like it. I don't like it because they touch my eyes and I get very sensitive.
The reason why I said do you want food is because that's the only thing that March demands.
You're the only thing March demands.
Yes. I thought he said, can we get a whole plate of food?
And I was being a good friend and assuming that that's what his need is.
This was immediate movement.
So,
So chat, when he goes up on stage,
I see everything goes according to plan.
We're gonna swap over to the live feed and you're gonna see a full production of this interview.
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be like UBC. It's gonna be just like the other Vancouver event that we did
Vancouver has such great infrastructure. It comes to me. Yeah, it's fucking awesome
And then afterwards we'll come back to can and do a sign off probably
Yeah, cinema cinema
Well, I think you only will have time, huh?
I don't think they'll tell me.
Alright, well we'll get back to the hodl room obviously.
Yeah.
And then possibly tear it down.
And then we'll see.
So now with all of that, sir...
They're using satbuckas lit up as props?
Yeah, they did that last time too.
Especially that's what we're doing.
If I don't get on the phone, I think they're just keeping things.
Hi, I'm my name is Fetcher.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
Is it okay for everybody to get your mic?
Yeah.
Do you want to join me?
Of course.
What is the fatigue that you have to describe it?
We have it all from the market, your technology, the difference.
Are you going to moderate the conversation or no?
I'm just going to step in when it starts getting too crazy.
Wait, really?
Are you going to re-orange the conversation?
Can you tell us your message?
I've always asked.
I know, but the reason why I say this is because I thought we were initially just going to talk about Israel and Palestine
You talk
Okay, it's just like an open conversation
Open conversation
So it's not me like, because you know how like in Doha, there's a financial times guy was interviewing me specifically
And I didn't know if that was my role interviewing Gabor
No, he was interviewing you specifically, but now you're interviewing Gabor just because you have a report
Okay
Exactly
We have a lot in common, you know.
Let's find out.
Yeah.
Of course.
I'm not really seeing how the sausage is made today.
Yeah, I know.
This is all deep insight, background, all good stuff.
Hopefully there's not a lot of echo.
On the stage?
No stage. Oh yeah, I'm speaking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just heard myself the whole time.
Okay, and just to know if it's like, oh can you feel uncomfortable in any way?
No, it's perfect.
Also, I know this shot is a weird shot, and I'm obviously trying not to get anybody on camera, because I don't want to be on camera.
Yeah, we're ethical.
I try my best to be.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, she didn't even say no, he's fine. She's literally like, don't pull me out of the camera.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Of course.
Okay.
This is like, this is a tech conference, yeah.
Usually I'm the niche one in these sorts of rooms where it's like they'll just
sneak in a couple people like myself or Yanis Varifakis. I guess Chunk Wygurt
is also somewhat niche in these rooms as well.
Booger check? Do I got boogers?
I did.
Snot rockets?
I don't know if you could just say something before we leave.
Hello, testing, testing, one, two, three.
One, two, three, four, five.
Hello, hello. Good?
All right, perfect, thank you.
Semina.
These water's unopened.
Yeah, lubricate that throat, boy.
North. Canada's rocky.
Canada's Rocky Mellon Water. Everything is sponsored too. Just like the other event
that I went to was like Hot Mike. Yeah, that you have, but on your Hot Mike too.
Wait, why are they saying, Ain't No Way? Oh, because you said lubricate that throat, boy.
Oh, that's open? Thank you.
Yeah, see, so it was like to entertain your community so they stick around.
So instead of putting them to sleep.
Yeah, you put that on the desk. Sorry.
What is this Ted talk about again?
Loneliness in the end of empire.
Not the age of empire,
but in the end of empire.
You know?
What is Cenk doing? Does he have a talk too?
Chunky, chunky Gerga.
Shaky Gerga.
not only had a talk, but last night he was the last second addition
to a conversation and he caused one of the speakers to storm out
of the room, yes, apparently.
And the way that Michael Treesy
who is also here apparently, and so is
Lauren Southern, which is ironic because none of those people
reach even a fraction of the controversy that seemingly I have created for this event
which goes to show the priorities of many people
but uh shaky gerga I made you nephew yeah so shaky gerga
caused I'm going to give you the actual person who's
the actual person who was there and who like uh walked out
hold on
But apparently he was talking about he was talking about like Israel and
The other person that was on the the other person in the talks was like I can't deal with it
Steven Walt just walked off stage because Jake started screaming crazily about Israel
Jake was added as a moderator to this panel the last minute he told me at one point he decided to raise
was how grateful everyone should be for Tucker and Candace Owens since they've
converted so many people to anti-Israel causes. Or in other words we should all
be, this is Michael's own editorial span, in other words we should all be deeply
appreciative of the torrent of abuse, brain-melted nonsense they've unleashed
like that Trump is being controlled by the Antichrist or is himself the
Antichrist and that's why he went over the wrong, Tucker in parentheses.
Candace espousing her latest lunatic version of the protocols of elders
of Zion is also fantastic. Jank is fully algorithm brain, which may have been why as moderator
in air quotes, he thought it prudent to start screaming wildly about Israel in all caps genocide,
fascist, etc. Even after Stephen Walt had asked him to please calm it down. But Jank couldn't
oblige, at which point Walt, in parentheses, not some pro-Israel zealot, amazingly got
up and left the stage right in the middle of the panel and exited the venue entirely
leaving an awkward empty chair for the remainder of the gab fest.
The gab fest also featured Aaron Maté who you guys saw earlier and friend of the show
Ryan Grimm.
Oh Ryan was on that scene.
Ryan was one of the moderators I guess or one of the panelists.
unbelievable. Now everyone in the replies is saying, Jankin and I have gone completely
rabid on their anti-Israel crusade. Least shocking post I've ever seen. Can't as a
Holocaust non-sacrificed Greek, your show proudly named after drug deaths, psychos,
and committed genocide, or maybe you should embrace weirdos for your life's work.
Man, classic.
Cenk is an inbred Muslim.
When they put the O and an E when they're writing Muslim, that's when you know someone
is really hateful, okay?
I couldn't give a shit about a bunch.
Oh, Jesus.
Okay, no, I'm not going to read the rest of it.
Amazing.
Meanwhile, in other news, in other news,
Clavicular is doing a meetup with Vice President of the United States, J.D. Vance, and Vice
President of being a dickhead, the worst Paul brother somehow, Jake Paul.
Well, I refuse to believe that, no.
You're getting jubated, that's not true.
I believe it.
That's not true.
I believe it.
I want to believe it in my heart and my soul.
It can't be true.
I mean,
can we be real?
Is it that crazy?
No, I just, I don't think I can handle it.
Honestly, is it that fucking crazy?
It's gonna be it for me.
I want to believe it. People are saying it's AI, I want to believe it's real.
Like, if you were to hear, I mean, if you were to hear in the wild,
oh, Clavicular is hanging out with JD Vance, where JD Vance is going to atone for
not being able to look smacks efficiently.
Alongside.
In other news, streamer famous for saying the n-word of black people on live streams,
chud the builder, was wounded in a self-inflicted shooting outside a Tennessee courthouse.
That guy with the mustache that goes up to black people, and it says the n-word.
I don't know here, I'm glad I don't know that.
Okay, well I'm gonna give you the details right now, whether you like it or not.
Montgomery County Sheriff's Office the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office
announced the two individuals involved in the incident chud the builder chud the
builders his name and an identified male sustained gunshot wounds they were both
hospitalized and both were listed as stable condition Wednesday afternoon both
men were taken in custody as the official said describing the incident as a
physical altercation that escalated to gunfire controversial streamer chud the
builder was shot Wednesday outside of a Tennessee courthouse just days after his
headline making arrest at national state. Oh, it's all good.
I just want to ask you a favor. If I can leave it to you to watch the timer.
There's a big timer in front of you and I think Gabor is a little bit more.
You won't forget the monitor and you're going to have 38 minutes on the clock.
You got it. But it's right in front of you.
Okay, I'll take note of this.
So, get off the stage.
No, we won't do that.
It's getting packed for your talk.
So, just to let you know,
I'm going to have a cab.
We're sitting on the right side,
and you'll be on the left side.
And we have a call-in for that.
Just for him to hear all the questions that you make.
Yeah.
So, it should be good.
Okay, perfect.
Yeah, I got the worst guy to deal with in my whole life.
Yeah, they don't know I'm a yapper.
I'm a grade A.
Gay.
Okay.
The influence of real name Dalton Etherly
claims he was jumped outside the courthouse so he says he fired shots and self-defense
accidentally shooting himself during the altercation.
He was left remain at the time and remained online as he was speaking with emergency personnel in the aftermath of the incident.
Did I shoot myself or did I graze it?
He asked before a first responder said it penetrated it.
Yeah, either Lee said on a scale from one to ten his discomfort from the injury was a six
Montgomery County deputies and close with police officers in front of the Montgomery County Courthouse in Clarksville around
1 15 a.m. He's built a reputation online for provocative IRL streams that often spiral into confrontation with strangers
restaurant staff and police
See, I'm sorry
But when they mentioned me on any nation publication
They can't they will literally be like Hassan is a rabid anti-semite possibly a terrorist
Maybe have contributed to the 9-11, but when they're talking about a guy whose entire content revolves around
literally going up to black people and saying screaming the m-word of them and then
Trying to get them into an altercation where he will pull out his weapon because that's what his content is
How did they describe it?
just
controversial streamers there's IRL altercations and and you know
He's built a reputation online for provocative IRL streams that often spiral into competition with strangers, restaurants, and police.
So he's just a regular news streamer? Like you could describe Stable Ronaldo with the same way that you're describing this fucking guy.
Very different type of content, I would say.
Look, the shooting comes less than a week after Ethel Lee was arrested in Nashville following an alleged live stream field meltdown at Bob's Steak & Chophouse.
House. Police claim he refused repeated requests to stop filming diners. He
caused a disturbance and skipped out on a $371 bill before being booked for
disorderly conduct and theft of services. Again, no mention of him saying the
N-word with a heart R in any point, at any point in this coverage. The Montgomery
County District Attorney's office tells TMZ law enforcement officers immediately
responded to a report of shots fired outside the courthouse and was taken
the custody at the scene. The DA says there was a competition between Dalton
Eatherly and an unidentified male. According to preliminary investigation,
both men were hospitalized to be treated for injuries. The investigation is
ongoing and there's no threat to the public. Yes, there is a threat to the
public. There absolutely is a threat to the public. How can you say there's no
threat to the public? This guy is still very much out and about. Menacing, random
black and brown people with heinous acts of racialized violence. He is at large
and therefore he remains a threat to the public at large. He also, I mean, this
reporting implies he's not a threat to the public when he literally engaged in
a violent confrontation outside of a fucking courthouse with a weapon, okay?
That is also a threat to the public.
It does, I guess it's still shocking to see the difference when you're an anti-Zionist
who fights against anti-Semitism, the media reporting and the way they engage you, versus
just being anti-black, just straight up anti-black, anti-black races, white
supremacists, it's actually insane. It shouldn't shock me as you know I've grown
pessimistic about the way corporate media operates and about the way media
operates in general, but still, nevertheless, nevertheless still very
much shocking the depths that the media will sink to.
Thank you, you're up. Any minute now? Yeah. One of the funniest part. Alright, let's do it.
Alright, can you flip it on your phone? Yeah, okay. To the third inch of it? Yeah. Should I just do it now?
Can I leave my stuff here? Okay Chad. Flip it into the stage and just let me know if everything breaks. Hopefully it does it.
It does...
The
The modern world can be a lonely place.
Technology that was supposed to bring us together often drives us apart and alienates us from
those around us.
Tackling this challenge, our next two speakers call for new forms of connection and solidarity.
It's greatly such a full room for this talk, and I'd love you all to give a warm welcome
to renowned physician and author of the best-selling book,
The Myth of Normal, Trauma, Illness and Healing
in a Toxic Culture, Dr. Gabor Matei.
And the most prolific political streamer on Twitch,
Hassan Piker.
Wow. What a crowd. They're all here to see you, and I'm just honored to be on the stage
with you if we're being real. I've wanted to have a conversation with you for quite
a while, and I'm glad that we got to do it in your hometown in Vancouver, beautiful
Vancouver. In a very intimate setting. Very intimate setting, yes of course. So I don't
know how this is supposed to be, I guess it's going to be a back and forth, right, in a
regular conversation. Last time I did one of these I had a journalist who was like asking
me questions about what I do, but given that I'm the media figure and you're the prolific
author and an academic, I will ask you some questions instead.
Hopefully that's okay.
Let's see how it goes.
All right.
So, let's start with somewhat of a cliché, a question that you've probably answered
a million times over your career.
How do you define trauma?
Sure.
So, trauma literally means a wound.
That's the Greek word for wound, or wounding.
So trauma is a wound that hasn't healed.
So it's really important to understand that trauma is not what happened to you.
Trauma is what happened inside you as a result of what happened to you.
So if I sustained a blow to my head, that's not the trauma.
That's the traumatic event.
The trauma is if I develop a concussion.
So trauma is a wound that hasn't healed.
And of course, that can happen physically or psychologically, in fact, you can't separate
the two.
Yeah, you've talked about the distinction or the root of the word trauma.
Do you want to talk about how it's evolved from being understood as something that is
often physical to how it manifests in the body and in the psyche?
Well, again, Western medicine makes the unscientific mistake of separating mind from the body,
so that I think of psychological trauma or physiological trauma as being different.
But I can tell you a number of things.
I can tell you that, for example, women with severe post-traumatic stress disorder have
doubled the risk of ovarian cancer.
In other words, the trauma shows up not just as a set of psychological disturbances, but
as disturbed physiology in the body.
American black women, the more experiences of racism they have to endure, the greater
the risk for asthma.
So trauma actually causes inflammation and narrowing of the airways that could go on.
Canadian study, men who are sexually abused and childhood, have tripled the rate of heart
disease, regardless of whether it is smoke or drink or not, so that, again, the trauma
psychologically that they endured translates into physiological effects.
Not to mention, we're just pan-med taxi ride or five-minute taxi ride away from Vancouver's
downtown east side.
We're talking in Vancouver.
This is North America's most concentrated area of drug use.
It's a severely addicted area.
were injecting and dying in the streets, just a few blocks away.
And I worked there for 12 years.
In the 12 years that I worked on there,
I had never a single female patient who had not
been sexually abused as a child.
So trauma shows up in all kinds of ways.
Mental health conditions, addictions, physical illness,
of course, troubled relationships, shame about who you are,
shame about the self, and loneliness.
So, I do want to talk to you about loneliness.
Yeah.
But before we get to that, I wanted to ask you,
we talk about the individual, but how do you account
for the systemic forces that accelerate the trauma
that people are experiencing?
Oftentimes born out of systemic racism, white supremacy,
things I've heard you talk about in the past,
genocides that are unfolding around the world,
numerous crises taking place, and how atomized we feel
as a byproduct of the current capitalist mode of production
that we exist under.
Do you feel like this is a heavy contribution?
Well, it's actually inextricable.
Human beings are by nature,
what has been called bio, cycle, social creatures.
In other words, biology is inseparable
from our emotional states,
which is inseparable from our social relationships.
When I mentioned that women with PTSD have double-deer sclerobane cancer, nobody loves
PTSD seeing in a room by themselves.
Something happened.
So that when you understand individuals, you have to understand the whole social culture
that generates the individual's life experiences.
And a system which atomizes people, which sets people against each other, which teaches
us that human nature is by definition selfish, aggressive, individualistic, greedy, inquisitive,
and suspicious, that's going to separate people from each other. Now that view of human nature
has nothing to do with real human experience. It has to do with the dominant view of a particular
social system. But that will generate a lot of isolation, loneliness, and stress so that
In North America, indigenous tradition, there's the medicine real, which has four quadrants,
the physical, the mental, which means the emotions and thoughts, the social, which is
the relationship with other creatures, and the spiritual, which is our creation with
the whole universe. And rest means a balance. So, as you say, health means a balance in
all those four coordinates. Now, that's not a mystical, naive, primitive way that's actually
what science has shown. So that physiology is inseparable from our psychology, from our
social relationships. So, individual health very much reflects social circumstances. And
In Canada, where we're speaking right now, indigenous women never used to have rheumatoid arthritis.
Now, today, in Canada, an indigenous woman has six times the rate of rheumatoid arthritis in a Caucasian male.
That's got nothing to do with gender or race.
It's got to do with social structure, racism, and historical trauma.
Do you feel like it's almost spiritually like smallpox being brought in blankets?
But this time, instead of the direct disease and its contribution,
it's the systemic forces of capitalism, imperialism, colonial violence,
and its remnants that are redefining the way that people who have been subjected to this kind of systemic violence
are experiencing negative consequences?
Well, it's interesting how you frame it because there's a concept, I think it's a
locoto word, but it's an indigenous Native American term called veticul,
veticul, W-E-P-I-K-O. It refers to the spirit of selfishness and aggression and exploitation.
And then the indigenous people saw the white people as carrying that spirit. It's almost like a virus
that infects you. That's exactly what they mean.
So aside from the structural forms of inequality being reinforced, it's obvious that during
COVID our society felt even more isolated than ever before. We've seen a generational
breakdown between older Gen Z and younger Gen Z, depending on which mode of socialization
that they were going through and the impact of that has been very obvious. We saw a lot
of younger Gen Z fall victim to right wing radicalization on the internet and even some
of the older Gen Z as well. How do you feel like, how much of that is born out of loneliness
and isolation and the trauma that it creates and is there a way to solve that problem?
Well, first of all, it's interesting because with each new generation, the ratio of loneliness increases.
And that's been going on for about 40 years. And that's been studied.
So the people that define themselves as lonely, the numbers are going up and up and up.
Now, when you're lonely, you're desperate.
See, the thing about human beings is that we're not black slates on which you can just write anything you want.
We're products of evolution, just like other animals.
If you look at human evolution, there's been human or human in, hominin, hominids on Earth for millions of years, human-like creatures.
Our own species, Homo sapiens, we've been here 150, 200,000 years.
Now, if you picture evolution on the face of my watch, and if one hour is evolution,
then until three minutes ago, we lived in small band hunter-gathering groups, totally
connected to each other.
The whole group went everywhere together, children were raised by a whole clan, extended
family, uncle Vance, neighbors, there was no separation, and the
communality, collaboration, and connection were absolutely essential for survival.
And so we evolved, expecting those, that's part of our nature.
So any society then that increases people's isolation actually tramples on
essential human needs.
And this society, especially under the neoliberal dispensation, loneliness has been increasing,
increasing, and increasing to the point now.
And that's not just an isolated, emotional travail, what it actually is, it undermines
physiology, so that loneliness is as much of a risk factor for early death and illness
as smoking or obesity, even more so.
so it has physiological impacts.
And it's just getting worse and worse with each generation.
How do you think we fix it without rolling back the clock
to primitive communism?
Yeah.
Well, nobody can.
We can never go back.
I mean, we're not going to be hunter-gatherers again.
It's a good thing for me, because if I did,
I would start to death.
Given my particular ineptness at doing anything.
But we can be aware of what we've lost.
And we can say, well, given today's technology,
given today's knowledge, given today's circumstances,
how can we get back what we lost?
How can we even create structures, connections,
interactions that promote togetherness
rather than isolation?
So, you know what, there's a bunch of techies in this room,
I think for the most part,
and the human mind is an incredible creative template.
What if we actually put our attention and our intention
at recreating communality,
given today's circumstances?
We could do it if that was an intention.
It's interesting because in Britain, it was so bad, they appointed a minister for loneliness.
That's how bad it is.
It doesn't seem to be working.
Is it working?
I don't know who that is.
So you know what I'm saying is, if you recognize it as a problem, we could deal with it.
But we have to recognize it.
This is something that I experienced personally during COVID.
I went independent in the end of 2019.
I left my job at the Young Turks,
and I decided to take a gamble and go on my own and become a Twitch streamer,
and I was going to follow Bernie Sanders around,
and I did, and then COVID happened,
and then Super Tuesday happened,
And then, you know, unfortunately...
Tell me what Super Tuesday was.
Super Tuesday was when Joe Biden won all of the states that he didn't even go to.
The Democrats cheated.
Yeah, yeah.
And they stopped Bernie Sanders.
That's right.
It was devastating.
One of the worst moments of my life still to this day.
Really?
But thank you for clapping for that.
Yes.
So, you were disillusioned, were you?
Well, I was disillusioned.
Yeah, well, let me ask you this.
Are you gonna... oh, no.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
This is what I was worried about. I watched you talk to Hasan Minhaj and I was really worried you were going to start talking on some things.
Well, I'm going to ask you a simple question. Would you rather be illusion or disillusion?
I would rather be illusion.
You'd rather be illusion. You'd rather believe in fairy tales, is that right?
Yes, but here's what I mean. I'd rather hold on to hope.
and have a North Star that I'm working towards.
But would you rather have that whole based on reality or based on a fantasy?
True, based on reality, of course.
Okay, well then it's a good thing to be disillusioned.
Okay.
And you were disappointed by Super Tuesday?
I wasn't. I wasn't. I never expected anything otherwise.
I expected the Democrats to be Democrats.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, go on.
But see, this is why I say it's good to be a little bit illusion, though,
because I still maintain this perhaps silly naivete, this optimism,
that there is some changes that we can make within the party system,
which is why I'm now working to elect in the primary system
as many left-flank candidates as possible.
I am not optimistic that entryism as a strategy is going to actually work and all of a sudden
in bourgeois capitalist neoliberal democracy one of the two major parties is going to turn
into a communist party by any means but I think it's important to advance the contradictions
not necessarily advance the contradictions personally but at least advance class consciousness.
So, I suppose we could debate politics here, but I'm holding this book here,
Meta-Normal, which is my most recent book, and I talk about this question.
And it was Ralph Nader, I think, who said that you can have your choice
between Tweedle-Dumb or Tweedle-D. It's a question of which one?
Do you want Tweedle-D? You want Democrat? You want Tweedle-Dumb?
would be dumb, would be Republican, you know?
But I don't particularly believe that this system
is an amenable to party reform.
And you know, it's not.
But look, if you believe in it, and if you want to work for it
and put your energies into it, as long as your eyes are open,
good for you.
Yeah.
you know, and I just more power to you, do it,
but then be ready to do other proper conclusions
based on what happens.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, the primary purpose that I think I see
with the way that the primary system works
is to advance class consciousness,
to elect people like Zoran
that will show that there's a different path
that you can chart, even with the significant setbacks,
oftentimes afforded by powerful interests,
capitalist class, and even in many instances,
the party itself, the democratic party itself.
So I guess I'm not disillusioned,
or I guess I'm not illusioned, rather,
in my idea that this is going to magically turn everything.
Time will tell. I met Zoran once and I was quite impressed with him as a person.
I even asked him. I said, there's lots of people with ideas and who
gain some position within the system, but then they get kind of metabolized and digested by the system.
And what are you going to do to keep you from that happening to you?
And he gave a very impressive answer. He said, first of all, he has to keep close to the people that elected him,
not to the choir structure. That's a good politician answer. Yeah and secondly I have to look in the
mirror every day and ask myself am I being true to myself so whether he'll do that time will tell
he's a very promising figure whether the system and to what degree the system will let him make
actual reforms time will tell. Yeah um I want to go back to the COVID era though because we
I made the mistake of saying I was illusioned.
Yeah, I became disillusioned.
But the reason why I brought that up is because
it was an unprecedented amount of loneliness
that people were experiencing,
and they were looking desperately to online communities.
Now, one of the things that I have personally encountered
in the aftermath of this was there were a lot
of reactionary communities that formed as well
as communities like myself, the one that I created
with a very specific purpose, to try to get people
to go and organize in their communities
and organize in their workforces and form labor unions,
have a crumb of autonomy or a crumb of control
in their own lives.
I feel like that's a very powerful way to...
Do you say a crumb?
A crumb, yes.
Oh, that's a very accurate way of putting it.
Yeah.
Look at your own language.
You think it's too negative of a framing?
No, I'm saying it's realistic.
The crumb is very little.
That's exactly what you get.
Yeah, but little by little.
Because the actual control.
If you actually look at who controls things
and how many people, I mean, what is the statistics?
0.1% of the world's population own more than 50%
of the world's population.
So yeah, we get crumbs.
I mean, it's a tremendous system of inequality.
It's designed this way.
And it's very sophisticated in this design,
especially the way propaganda works
that makes a lot of people feel comfortable and sedated
and not acknowledge the tremendous consolidation of power
and the hardships that they go through.
And then you have one flank, the reactionary forces,
fascists that will take advantage of that angst,
that animosity, and try to harness all of that anger
into organized violence in many instances,
and also stochastic terror.
I wanted to ask you about this in particular.
How much do you think that isolation
has contributed to increased acts
of random instances of violence that's taking place all around the world now, as a matter
of fact, even in places where they previously had no school shootings.
Well, first of all, just in terms of what you said about propaganda, James Baldwin,
the great American writer, he said that words in his country are used more to cover the
sleeper than to wake him up.
Yeah.
It was a tremendously sophisticated propaganda system.
And I grew up in Eastern Europe under communism, where there was a very crude propaganda system
that everybody could see through.
It's much more clever here.
It's just as pernicious and as controlling, but it's far more insidious, unless it's
easier to see.
Now, in terms of the question about, there was a terrible school shooting here in British
Columbia a couple of months ago, eight children were killed by somebody who was clearly mentally
ill.
who the mental health system had clearly failed.
And when you look at these people that commit these shootings, they're usually very lonely,
troubled individuals who are festered in their own isolated little world, usually because
of trauma.
And tremendous resentment and anger and frustration towards the world, which then they expressed
through their horrific acts, so that the increasing isolation certainly feeds that, because, again,
given that we have this need for connection, we actually are, you know, we have brains
that are wired for all these different emotions, and one of them is love. We're actually wired
for love, but when that's blocked, there's a tremendous frustration. And these school
shooters or these people who come in front of us or all these people, something happened
and that isolated them, that hurt them and then gave them tremendous frustration.
So one of the things I've identified as a possible solution that I want to run by you
is, like I said, organizing and trying to be more ever present in the communities that
we exist in, in the real world, because I feel like increasingly in this age of isolation
we find ourselves desperately seeking out a sense of kinship, a sense of community,
a sense of shared purpose, and oftentimes we find that on the internet.
And just as you mentioned earlier, these various right-wing groups, they do give people a sense
of belonging and they do give people a sense of shared understanding and they give people
a sense of meaning and purpose, you know, and that's powerful.
Yeah, and it's, I guess the question I have is, how do you combat the ease of access and
the immediate gratification that these right-wing spaces offer?
One of these spaces is called the Manisphere.
I was once a young man, I'm 34 now, in my industry, over the hill, one foot in the grave.
I remember feeling emotional, feeling worried about my future.
I remember the complexities in interpersonal relationships that, you know, seeking after
or seeking the love of a crush that I had in high school and how terrified I was to even
reveal my feelings to them.
Oftentimes just, you know, never really going out and talking to them.
And if I was growing up in this current media environment, I probably would have also found
myself in the throes of the mannosphere because there is this this alluring spell that they
can just as they can so easily communicate to young men. The idea that it's systemic
forces that are at play and that are at fault for the anxieties that they feel. Not the
systemic forces of capitalism, but instead systemic forces such as feminism.
Yeah, well, something very difficult has happened to men, which is that the factory system,
you know, the corporate factory system falls into depredations and exploitations.
They give people a sense of belonging, a sense of meaning, and they gave them a sense of power
that they were the veterinarians and the protectors and the providers of their family.
That's been hollowed out of the special United States,
the industrialization on a massive scale.
And what is followed is what have been called
the deaths of despair, high rates of suicide
amongst worthy class men, high rates of addiction.
And in the U.S., over the last several years,
every year twice as many people die
overdoses has died in all the years of the Vietnam, Afghan and Iraqi words put
together. So that population is very desperate and they lost a sense of
their culturally imposed masculinity and so they see feminism and female power
as the enemy. Not realizing it's actually their ally if it's properly
understood. There's something in my mind, let me just look at my notes because you said something
that, oh yeah, about the fear of revealing yourself. There was a study of men who were dying of HIV
some decades ago. And men who came out openly about their gain as were less likely to die
of HIV than those that didn't. And amongst the ones who did die, the more fear of social
rejection there was if they did come out, the greater the risk of dying of HIV. In other
In other words, the immune system actually responds to a sense of social rejection.
So to the extent that you're afraid of being rejected, that's not just for anybody, you know?
So they suppress themselves. That's not only psychological phenomena,
it's actually plays havoc with the immune system. Again, that unity of mind and body that I keep talking about.
of the dynamics that you were talking about,
have huge impacts on people's psychology and physiology.
Yeah, but I guess the question I have is,
it's very easy to just take that angst,
and that angst that turns into anger,
and tell people that there are no solutions
and lead them down further pits of despair.
It's not an accident that I think a lot of these guys who on the one hand will rail against sex work and will say
That's all women want to do
Those are the very same people that are what that's their fantasy
What that's the what that's their fantasy. Yeah, but but they also are
Many of them manage only fans models as well
Yeah, and this contradiction is never addressed as a matter of fact when asked about it
I think it was Luther that
had a conversation with one of these guys in his documentary on Netflix, The Manusphere Documentary.
He asked them, he's like, well you're talking about how women are doing only fans, but you're...
but you manage only fans' sex workers and he was like, well I just... I need to make money.
And that's it. And he's very forthcoming about this inherent hypocrisy.
But it's almost not hypocritical any longer because there's a recognition
That he's doing something indecent. I feel like we've seen this pattern play itself out in
The realm of politics with Donald Trump
I like to say Donald Trump is the most honestly dishonest
President we've ever had in America. Yeah, where he wears it on his sleeve. He says yeah, I'm a bad guy
What are you gonna do about it?
But I'm I'm a bad guy that will protect my people and will attack viciously
Obviously, the enemy from within, sometimes it's undocumented migrants that are falsely
blamed for the problems that people are experiencing, other times it's trans people, oftentimes
very vulnerable, marginalized groups that don't have the capacity to fight back in an organized
manner, that can't muster up the powerful forces that could be an important and necessary
line of defense.
But that's easy, right?
That's an easy solution.
It's the wrongs.
a real solution at all, it's wrong. I guess my question is, how do we fight these systemic
forces, especially when these right-wing reactionary movements are not disruptive to the established
hierarchy of capitalism, and in the age of dying empire, we see the same illiberal or
or post-liberal forces come back again
in the exact same ways that we saw the political evolution
that led to the rise of fascism.
Well, if you look at fascism in Germany,
which is sort of the quintessential template,
although fascism came from Italy, it's an Italian term,
but its highest expression was Nazism in Germany.
in Germany. And there's some significant similarities. Germany had an empire, it had lost it. And
you talk about a dying empire, the American empire is a dying empire now. You can see
that it hasn't won a war for a long time. It has caused a lot of damage, killed millions
of people, but it hasn't won a single war for a long time. So it's on its way out. Empire
rise and fall. That was the French, that was the British Empire, you know, that was the
Roman Empire at some point. More recently we've had the American Empire, but the American
Empire reached its apogee and started its descent much faster than any other empire
in history. History speeds up as we go on. So Germany had lost an empire. The first genocide,
By the way, by Germans, it wasn't of Jews or of Roma people, but of Africans, and the
Harare people in what's called non-Nabibia in the early 20th century.
That was the first genocide by the Germans.
Not by human beings, there's a book called Endless Holocausts about the American Empire.
And Hitler actually consciously looked to the American model of dealing with the indigenous
people as he contemplated his racial policies.
So but Germany was a very desperate country.
It had lost a war.
It had these honorous reparations imposed on them.
Then came the depression and that desperation, that sense of meaning, that sense of power,
I sense loss of dignity that led to the power that fascism then promised and bangled in front of the German people.
I read biographies of Hitler and Trump.
Characterologically there's some significant similarities.
The difference was that Hitler was an actual ideologue he believed in stuff.
Trump doesn't believe in anything. He's not an ideological fascist.
He's got the character traits that fascists will have, the arbitrariness, the power, the
incredible contempt for the weak, the vindictiveness, the absolute need for power which incidentally
arise from his own very traumatic childhood.
One of my friends and colleagues, Bessel van der Kolk is a psychiatrist, a book called
But Body Keeps the Score.
He says that Trump is a poster boy for trauma.
And you can see that.
So was Hitler, by the way.
So was Stalin, to that matter.
And the difference, again, is that behind or underneath or buttressing or developed by
Hitler was a very coherent ideology, totally false, but coherent.
Trump doesn't have an ideology.
It's an opportunity.
We may say that's a good thing.
Because if Trump had an ideology and his characteristics,
we'd be in much deeper trouble.
Yeah.
Well, we're almost about to run out of time,
and they told me to make sure I keep a watchful eye on the clock.
Okay.
So one of the things that I wanted to run by
is my ideal, my ideal way of trying to organize people.
Yeah, that's right.
I think it's important to have a North Star,
and I think it's important to make sure
that we are organizing with a purpose.
Obviously, I'm a socialist, I'm an anti-imperialist,
and that is my North Star for the most part,
and I have seen at least some level of success
trying to get people to hold onto little crumbs of hope,
little crumbs of autonomy that they can secure for themselves.
I just wish you wouldn't call it crumbs.
OK.
What would you call it?
Threads.
Threads, OK.
Threads of hope.
That we can weave together.
OK, I love that.
Threads of hope that we can weave together
to build solidarity across the board, across the nation,
and across all nations, and hopefully
present people with an alternative that they can subscribe to, to build a more egalitarian
society.
Look, I salute you for that.
This clearly reflects your own particular commitment and passion and sense of the word
world, and good for you.
And I can only say as long as people pursue their own particular authentic calling and
they keep their eyes open, it's only going to lead to good.
The only word that would change in your discourse is the one of hope, because it's just a technical
point, but hope speaks to a wish for something to happen in the future.
For me, a more useful word is possibility, because possibility is right here in the present.
So the question is, what possibilities can we envision right now in the present that
we can work with?
Not for something to happen in the future, but something that we can actually do right
now.
to me. That's what you're up to in your particular way. And again, I can only applaud you for
it. As long as you're willing to keep your eyes open and allow yourself to be disillusioned
when necessary, you're not going to go wrong. Okay.
Thank you so much
How was it?
Good?
Hi, right.
Did you pass the audition?
Yes, you did.
He's my camera co-producer.
Call owner.
Nice to meet you.
Are you ever in Los Angeles?
Is that where you're based?
Yeah, that's where I'm based.
I don't care.
I don't even need to pass.
I'll be back in a minute.
I'm going to be back in a minute, but I would love to have another conversation with a longer one.
Oh yeah, it'd be great.
Yeah, I'd love to have these time constraints.
Okay, let me get my email address.
I can get your permission from Aaron too.
Oh yeah, yeah, I can get it.
Yeah, of course you can.
Okay, yeah, let's get in touch.
All right, perfect.
Lovely to be here.
Thank you so much.
I'm really enjoying it.
Thank you.
Oh, thank you.
That was great chat, love you.
Okay, good.
I was worried.
I don't know if you can tell, I was a little worried.
You had some leaves, but you always brought it back though.
I was worried because I wanted to make sure it was productive and I got the most out of...
Good?
Yes.
I need that.
Okay.
I want to hear about agents.
Okay.
Once they hear about Asians, you've been working for us.
Our little theater, a little excited.
That's a crazy swap over from talking about the growth of fascism and how to fight it.
Oh, really?
You guys have heard once you're fighting for us.
I don't want to say we don't want to say.
But okay.
We are.
We are.
We are.
Oh yes, yes, yes.
It's good.
It's good.
It's really good.
Here.
All right.
You want to see the pictures?
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was great.
Nice.
Yeah.
It was funny.
It was funny.
You got a smile.
Yeah.
It was funny.
It was funny.
It was funny.
Did you use your phone or your phone?
It was funny.
It was funny.
Right.
Perfect.
So they, yeah, it was funny.
And shit.
So they want you to take 30 seconds over there.
So we got a deal.
Yeah.
You didn't get a black cat.
OK.
I'll see you around. I'm gonna give your dad's information for me because I want to have him on.
Thank you very much.
Oh, thank you. Thank you for everything.
No, we have a flight. We have a flight to catch up for you.
Oh, I'm still sorry.
Sure.
Thanks so much.
You got it all right?
Yeah, we're, yeah, we're going straight out of here.
Nice.
Great.
That was, I'm not very good when it's like an unstructured setting.
shirt setting I'm usually the one being interviewed not the one doing an interview
so I hey what's going on sure I'm a local politician
I love the socialists. I love that. Thank you. I'm suing the mayor because
he called me a terrorist for once. I was thinking of the rally and also said I was
handing out free drugs on Christmas Day so we got to get this. You met my co-chair
when you were here. Oh, Greed's. No, we're a coke. Oh, coke. Yeah, you met Sam. Oh, cool.
it's great to meet you
enjoy thank you
I don't want to bother you
we have to run right now
do you want to take a photo?
quick
different from the other person
That's my family and it's a really huge team.
Nice to meet you man.
Nice to meet you.
Take a photo.
Take a photo.
What's with the beef with chew on head?
I don't know.
Is there beef with straw on it?
I'm not very familiar with the beef with chew on head.
Thanks so much.
Sorry guys, you have to go for a bite.
That never goes the way people think it will go.
In their minds, I think they think, oh god, I'm gonna do the thing that I can do online.
And it's like, nah, you just kind of look weird.
Okay.
Yeah, before saying that, they wished that conversation was longer.
Yeah, that's the thing.
I mean, yeah, we were just like beginning to unlock some very...
We should start a podcast.
You want to take a photo?
I'm pretty sure.
I've been trying to convince him to start a podcast for months now, by the way.
I like it in every one.
Alright, we made it.
Alright.
Thank you so much.
Alright.
It's fine.
It's good.
Kind of chilly now.
Initially, yeah.
That's why I wore the jacket.
Um, I mean, to me, probably just...
Is it, like, I think I have a car.
Yeah, you do.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Well, let's end it here then.
It's a pretty serious crew, and I saw this guy.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you, man.
Hi.
Okay, let's just end it right here.
All right, everybody.
Unfortunately, we have to end the broadcast here because I have a quick flight because
I have some stuff I need to do.
I'm going to be doing Smosh tomorrow.
And this was a very quick in and out day.
Half day Haase, you already know what it is.
It was worth it.
You said them well.
Yeah, hopefully you guys got well fed.
Love you guys.
And yeah, I'll see you tomorrow, same time, same place.
It's time to back in Los Angeles.
Nate Bluwin is going to be in the barcast, I believe, tomorrow.
He's running in Utah.
And we'll have a conversation with him alongside the situation
monitoring and getting to all the stuff that I didn't get to today, specifically on the
sheet.