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06-05-2026 · 8h 22m

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[00:12:00] The man who sent Hezbollah's flag is his favorite, because it's dope.
[00:12:09] Why would you align yourself for a raging and extremist price who has defended Hamas
[00:12:14] terrorists?
[00:12:15] Calling them the lesser of two is, Israel's compared to the government's evils, the
[00:12:18] mother of two.
[00:12:19] That's what I find a bridge too far.
[00:12:22] When I went up to my good friend Chat and said, hey, you walking through some more
[00:12:26] controversial statements of a Sompiker, even Chachi BT1 out of its way to soften the edges
[00:12:33] of a SON and give me context.
[00:12:36] Thanks, but no thanks.
[00:12:38] Chachi BT.
[00:12:39] The Sompiker's campaign poison, placing yourself on the wrong side of a 9-10 issue, is only
[00:12:44] going to make you look bad.
[00:12:45] It's going to be good for me.
[00:12:46] It's going to be good for the candidates that I work with.
[00:12:48] Turns out it was true.
[00:12:50] Abdul El Sayed at 27% over largely.
[00:12:54] I mean like heroes everybody, welcome to the broadcast, thank you for having me.
[00:12:58] Oh my gosh!
[00:12:59] What's going on man?
[00:13:01] What's up dude?
[00:13:03] I'm having a really good time.
[00:13:05] He's trying to get it out.
[00:13:07] Wow!
[00:13:09] What's going on everybody?
[00:13:11] I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon, and premium no matter where you
[00:13:20] are on the world of Mazan Park or in the Zazan, I'm Bargaz with you live from sunny Cali,
[00:13:23] Los Angeles, stolen territory, Seoul and Tongval land. We're live. We're alive. And I hope all
[00:13:28] the boys, girls and MBS are having a fantastic one because today's a beautiful day. Today's a
[00:13:31] wonderful day. Today is a very special day. Now you might know that it's a special day.
[00:13:43] You might be aware that it's a very special day. I certainly am. And you might be wondering why
[00:13:50] It's a special day. Well, the reason for why it's a very special day is because it's because I just recently did it LBC debate, which I thought was really good. No, that's not the reason it's part of it. But that's not the only reason. It's because I worked out this morning and I feel pretty spectacular. No, that's not the reason.
[00:14:08] Is it because you think line is potentially losing his lawsuit to denims?
[00:14:12] I mean, that's a pretty good reason but also on top of those reasons. It's Friday
[00:14:17] Ladies and gentlemen, you already know on the house of the broadcast we celebrate the weekend
[00:14:21] We are weekend warriors here at the house of the broadcast for one good reason and that is because our forefathers brought long and hard to
[00:14:28] Make sure that we have the weekend a sense of autonomy a sense of purpose a sense of regaining our consciousness and humanity
[00:14:35] And that's why the vibes will always be immaculate on Fridays
[00:14:39] You already know what it is for all those the wage cucks in the wage slayings on Friday
[00:14:46] We celebrate ladies and gentlemen. That's right. Happy Friday more like Friday more like Friday
[00:14:53] Happy pride
[00:14:55] You already know, Immaculate Vibes my ass? No, no, no, we're gonna keep the Immaculate
[00:15:06] Vibes going. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, you already know what's up. Shout out to the
[00:15:13] workers on the weekend for all the wage cuts that are doing gig economy service industry
[00:15:19] work. Unfortunately for all of you, it might not actually be technically a time of peace
[00:15:28] and prosperity, time for yourself. It is however, Friday, June 5th, 2026, 1121 AM.
[00:15:36] In a little bit, I am going to do a very quick one-hour Yana's Varifakis conversation that
[00:15:42] we were supposed to do. Um, today was supposed to be the day where I was, uh, in real life,
[00:15:49] uh, uh, supposed to do a conversation with the honest of our focus. I was also supposed
[00:15:54] to do a conversation with LBC in the studio, but unfortunately, uh, that didn't happen
[00:16:00] in person, but it did happen over the internet. And it actually went on for almost an hour.
[00:16:07] And not only did it go for an hour. It was, this is part of the barcast where I tell you
[00:16:10] my personal news, by the way, for all the parasocialists out there. But as I was saying,
[00:16:23] I did this interview that turned into a debate. Did you record LBC in case they don't release?
[00:16:30] I did not record it. I should have. I didn't really think about recording it, but I think
[00:16:36] they'll release it. It's a good faith conversation.
[00:16:47] Hopefully, yes, there's really, really good stuff going on. UAW endorsed Abdul El Sayed.
[00:16:57] LBC is, oh, I was also on democracy now before I forget what am I talking about?
[00:17:02] I woke up early this morning at 4 30 a.m and put on the suit for my queen, Amy Goodman,
[00:17:15] for Democracy Now the Worm piece report. That's right, I was on Democracy Now earlier this morning.
[00:17:24] Then I went back to bed for a little bit. Then I went to the gym. I worked out. Then
[00:17:32] Uh, which LBC anchor, uh, I will tell you, I think it was, uh, Lewis Goodall. Yes. And
[00:17:42] it got heated. It got heated. I was having a conversation with Lewis Goodall and it started
[00:17:47] very positive. But then I started just straight up being like, look, yeah, I stand by some
[00:17:53] of the statements I've said about Hamas being a thousand times better than Israel. He, he
[00:17:57] He was very offended about, he's very offended about the comparison between Israel and Nazis.
[00:18:04] And I was like, yeah, well, I'm more offended about Israel's actions than that.
[00:18:11] You know, there was a, there was a little bit of that.
[00:18:13] And he's, he seems, they're going to edit the shit out of that.
[00:18:17] No, I don't think so.
[00:18:18] I think they'll post it in full.
[00:18:20] I hope it's gonna be heated. Yeah, it's gonna be heated. But it's so good. Yeah, it's not.
[00:18:33] Um, yes, Lewis is a super Lib of the station along with James O'Brien. You think they're
[00:18:40] going to release everything? Oh, you sweet summer child. I think so. Why wouldn't they?
[00:18:50] No, I didn't record the full context. And if they don't, you got no rebuttal now. Why you keep
[00:18:57] doing this? I mean, I don't know. I didn't feel. Why are we, why, why are we automatically assuming
[00:19:03] that it wasn't, uh, it, it just wasn't going to, to be released in full.
[00:19:09] I don't think LBC edit stuff like that.
[00:19:11] I don't think they will.
[00:19:12] Anyway, guys, God damn it.
[00:19:15] I just started, and remember when I said the vice were about to be immaculate
[00:19:20] and you guys fucked it already.
[00:19:22] God damn chat every day, every day, motherfuckers tune in here.
[00:19:26] And they're like, well, what time is it?
[00:19:29] That's right.
[00:19:30] Time to go to work.
[00:19:32] What am I doing at work?
[00:19:33] Well, I'm working at the dick-sucking factory and when I'm done sucking dick
[00:19:39] What I like to do after a long shift of sucking penis is to immediately
[00:19:47] Start yelling at a song for not doing the right thing. I'm just saying British media. Okay
[00:19:56] Um
[00:20:01] Once again
[00:20:03] I am going to do an interview with was wrong with sucking dick ain't nothing wrong with
[00:20:19] it. There are a lot of earners out there that are doing the work that needs to be done that
[00:20:25] no one wants to do at the dick sucking factory. But speaking of which, by the way, that was
[00:20:31] actually another thing that he brought up. He was like, well, you said it's homophascism.
[00:20:35] What do you mean by that? And I was like, well, you know, Peter Thiele, Sam Altman,
[00:20:38] these are the types of people who don't have issues with like, you know, queerness and queer culture,
[00:20:45] but are techno fascists in general. And, and, and, you know, he was trying to, he was trying
[00:20:53] to hit me on that where I was like, well, don't you think queer people get sent to the camps
[00:20:57] in under fashion. And I was like, yeah, that's my point. That's why we have to have international
[00:21:02] solidarity. We don't have any time to to dick around. No one likes to lick the labia. That's crazy.
[00:21:15] Um, how you feeling today, uncle? You doubling down and it should look getting mad. Peacock
[00:21:29] down. I'm gonna need my A seven my veins. I mean, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see what
[00:21:31] happens. We'll see what happens. Oh, breaking news. Randy fine attempts to board a flight
[00:21:37] to tell Aviv, let's take a look at what happened. That's fucked up. They should not let him
[00:21:46] on the plane like that. That's really messed up that they did. Queer is not synonym for
[00:21:55] gay Peter Theor. He hates queer culture. Okay, whatever. He's gay though. He's LGBTQ himself.
[00:22:03] Um, anyway, Oxford Union is is back on chamber on the 6th of June at 6pm BST. I don't know
[00:22:12] what that means. I don't know what 6pm BST is. I thought, so I guess it's not going
[00:22:17] to be live streamed on my end. Because that's real early, isn't it? That's real early, isn't
[00:22:27] It is 10 a.m. Pacific time fucking L
[00:22:32] Fuckin L Noss hey, I was out of you. All right, then
[00:22:42] How long is it supposed to be
[00:22:45] Hopefully not longer than an hour anyway
[00:22:47] Yeah, Hassan piker yonah's bar fog is banned for insufficient supported genocide also some piker
[00:22:52] I'm being banned from the UK traveling the Cuba sporting candidates critical of Israel
[00:22:55] So, the national I did an interview with as well, your favorite Aussies backing you up.
[00:23:03] This is Lander. I sent him my nudes completely unsolicited. Alexa, they were my nudes. I
[00:23:09] mean, both of their nudes I got. Yeah, exactly. Oops. Anyway. Okay. So yeah, personal newswise,
[00:23:20] The UK band is lowkey worthy of an original YouTube vid on your channel.
[00:23:25] It's too late now, innit?
[00:23:27] Everybody knows that it happened.
[00:23:28] I should have just blasted one before.
[00:23:30] Check previous pleas before news time.
[00:23:33] Watch Bosnia's banger.
[00:23:34] No, I'm not going to.
[00:23:35] Okay.
[00:23:37] I got the blast off memes.
[00:23:38] All right.
[00:23:39] I'm going to post them right now.
[00:23:42] Yes.
[00:23:44] I saw the dubs, big dubs, fat dubs on the timeline.
[00:23:47] I saw in a hilarious Swiss, the delicious ironing, the court tentatively determined
[00:23:50] that Denim's reaction to the continuity passes three of the four pillars of fair use and
[00:23:54] is therefore transformative in all three of the four pillars that have passed the court.
[00:23:58] The court cites Eaton's, Ethan Klein's own former case against Matt Haas, the president
[00:24:01] that informs their decision.
[00:24:04] It's fucking awesome.
[00:24:06] This is a, this is a, a shit lib apocalypse, okay?
[00:24:12] Every single shit lib, every single ultra Zionist.
[00:24:17] Every single person who is now embarrassed to openly state their support for the nation
[00:24:23] state of Israel, or many of them who still do, were in support of Ethan Klein's litigation.
[00:24:31] We'll see what happens.
[00:24:34] They can still appeal, but it doesn't look too good for the crackpot team over there,
[00:24:42] it seems.
[00:24:43] Shout out to Denims, swag, beast mode, you know, respect, respect.
[00:24:59] Let me blast off real quick because we have, you know, talking with Giannis about being
[00:25:12] banned from European countries over anti-Zionism, Senate 70 Bill Cool Immigration Bill,
[00:25:28] okay, Ethan Klein lawsuit against Denims might fail. Senate 70 Bill in Immigration Bill,
[00:25:41] California dumps continue patch pit David versus better a song let go updates
[00:25:47] Um, I found out that I I have access to reckless Ben
[00:25:52] Unprecedented access to reckless Ben. I just had no idea that I did
[00:25:57] So I will be talking to him as well at some point
[00:26:03] Israel merger voice vote fails, by the way. Yeah, he follows me apparently. I didn't even fucking know.
[00:26:17] I've been like literally asking around. I'm like, yo, where's this guy? What's he up to? What's he doing?
[00:26:23] Turns out he follows me.
[00:26:27] Yeah, I'm ready for the is Hassan be a terrorist searches the sword on Twitter after mentioning
[00:26:35] Ethan decline. I mean, who gives a fuck? Yeah, by the way, the lawsuit that fucking failed.
[00:26:44] This was one of the elements. Obviously, like you might be thinking, why the fuck do I care
[00:26:48] about this like weird-ass lawsuit from a pro-Israel podcaster against like other people and it's
[00:27:00] because he basically used the fucking lawsuit as a fleshlight for all of his other personal
[00:27:10] opinions. Very strange. Yeah, he did a whole bunch of weird shit in that lawsuit. And it
[00:27:25] turns out a normal judge looked at it and was like, this is fucking insane. It turns
[00:27:31] out that what pops off in the minds of like weird perverted fake lawyers on the internet
[00:27:39] and rape tone and
[00:27:41] as many gold
[00:27:43] circles on the internet doesn't actually stand in the fucking court of law
[00:27:51] yeah
[00:27:52] great stuff
[00:27:54] great stuff overall uh... but does this matter of course not because our
[00:27:59] enemies are stupid
[00:28:01] okay
[00:28:02] our enemies are fucking stupid okay
[00:28:05] just remember that
[00:28:06] if you're wondering
[00:28:07] Why these guys constantly go, oh, this, this lawsuit is over.
[00:28:12] And then there's like seven million views on these YouTube videos with like some of the sweatiest fucking losers on the planet running around being like, oh my God, like this is over.
[00:28:22] What epic onage without even like thinking about what dangerous precedent this sets for fair use on the internet.
[00:28:29] Like even Klein almost killed fair use with this idiotic fucking attempt.
[00:28:35] Thank God the judge was like, hey dog, your previous precedent that you set in your previous
[00:28:42] lawsuit was actually pretty reliable in this circumstance.
[00:28:46] Yeah, they cited his own fair use suit from 2016 and his fucking loss, dude.
[00:28:52] Today's feel good story.
[00:28:53] A federal judge just handed Zionist YouTuber Ethan Klein a brutal loss in his copyright
[00:28:56] lawsuit against propelstine Twitch and Redems TV and humiliating ruling the judge cites
[00:29:00] a president that Klein himself created.
[00:29:04] in twenty seventy client one of landmark fair uh... fair use case
[00:29:07] was in the day versus client after being super make every action commentary
[00:29:10] video became one of the most important copyright rulings you to be sure you
[00:29:13] create a right to have to get celebrated him
[00:29:16] fast forwarded to twenty twenty five
[00:29:18] now the plaintiffs to several small shimmers for doing almost exactly what
[00:29:21] he did back then watch the criticizing his video in an unhinged diet try to
[00:29:25] get some on live with commentary throughout
[00:29:28] today judge was the sue
[00:29:29] cited was in the day
[00:29:31] Versus Klein repeatedly to rule that Denim's TV's livestream was transformative fair use. The case Klein 1 to protect himself is now protecting the pro-Palestine streamers
[00:29:39] He's suing Klein's own complaint alleged that Denim's used his video for the exact opposite purpose to defend us on piker rather than condemn him
[00:29:46] The court said exactly different purpose means transformative
[00:29:50] Klein argued himself into losing is he being fleeced by his lawyers dude
[00:29:54] Can you imagine thinking by the way, this is Israel mindset?
[00:29:58] it. Sorry, gonna say it. This is Israel mindset. It's not shocking to me that his lawyer is
[00:30:05] a West Bank settler. It's not shocking to me that Ethan Klein loves Israel because this
[00:30:10] is Israeli mindset. You think you get to have a say in how people transform your content.
[00:30:17] Are you fucking stupid? But of course, the way Israel mindset being spiritually Israeli,
[00:30:27] Israeli and doing Israel mindset. Here's how it works. If you have overwhelming power,
[00:30:36] if you have a lot more money to throw out a fucking problem, you can actually make people
[00:30:42] that are smaller than you that don't have that same financial support. You can actually humiliate
[00:30:49] them or try to humiliate them when all you're doing is humiliating yourself. And it turns out
[00:30:54] There are some people, sick of fans really, that will support you every step of the fucking way.
[00:31:06] Because that's what happened with Casey Tron, where he made Casey Tron
[00:31:10] release this statement and like sign off on a litany of like insane things.
[00:31:19] In a just world, all these reaction streamers should be thanking her for fighting their fight,
[00:31:23] Roach, X, and Destiny were celebrating her getting her sued. Not knowing if she lost,
[00:31:27] it would be bad for them because they react to thousands of videos. Exactly.
[00:31:32] Unfortunately, like I said, a lot of our opposition is either unbelievably fucking stupid
[00:31:39] or they're just horrible monsters, okay? Sometimes both. Every single fucking major
[00:31:48] content creator on this dumb ass fucking platform that reacts to YouTube videos with regular
[00:31:53] frequency was championing this fucking lawsuit.
[00:31:57] Not realizing that if this lawsuit was successful, it would have gutted react content in general.
[00:32:05] They should be kissing Denim's feet.
[00:32:08] They should have been fucking screeching at Ethan.
[00:32:12] They should have been screaming at Ethan, but no, they were too horny to fucking bully
[00:32:16] a bunch of pro-Palestine women that they don't like, that their fucking dumbass incel audiences
[00:32:22] would jerk off to the thought of dominating. And that's precisely what happened here, okay?
[00:32:28] That's what this is. A lot of fucking dumbass losers on the internet were so stoked.
[00:32:37] We're so motherfucking stoked at the prospect of destroying the lives and livelihoods of a bunch
[00:32:43] of that women that they don't like, that they didn't even think about the fucking consequences.
[00:32:54] Now, will they actually address this stuff evenly? Will they address it accurately? Will
[00:32:59] they look at the situation and go, well, obviously, this was a failure and maybe Ethan should stop
[00:33:04] pursuing these idiotic lawsuits, wasting away, like literally withering away
[00:33:11] day, and aggressively pursuing people through litigation to dump unlimited amounts of paperwork
[00:33:17] on them with the hopes that they can't actually fight back because they don't have enough
[00:33:20] money so they'll concede.
[00:33:23] Probably not.
[00:33:25] Because these guys don't think about anything.
[00:33:27] It's just pure reactionary nonsense.
[00:33:29] Anyway, there's more.
[00:33:31] The court walked through all four fair use factors, three favored denim strongly.
[00:33:35] The only one favoring client, that the nuke is a creative work deserving protection,
[00:33:39] the judge dismissed as not terribly significant in the overall balance. Accordingly, the court
[00:33:43] finds that the nature of the subject work weighs against the finding of fair use. As
[00:33:46] set forth above, however, this factor alone is not terribly significant in overall fair
[00:33:50] use balancing, because at the end of the day, the work was transformative. That's number
[00:33:56] one. And number two, Ethan was simply trying to sue people into submission because he didn't
[00:34:02] like what they had to say. How's that for fucking free speech? But it turns out a lot
[00:34:10] of people don't give a fuck about free speech at all, especially those who think free speech
[00:34:14] means, you know, saying slurs and being able to say slurs and have no opposition whatsoever.
[00:34:25] Yeah, here comes the sun bird says, I don't think this, I don't believe this was ever about
[00:34:31] winning lawsuit where it backfired was then is following through on talking taking it to a judge
[00:34:36] fair user robust enough stand to stand its ground which is probably why destiny and asman gold were
[00:34:41] celebrating it. I would hope that at a certain point,
[00:34:52] Yeah. If it doesn't change tomorrow, this will be the second most important court ruling
[00:35:02] on YouTube and fair use followed only by 2017's Matt Haas slash Ethan Klein.
[00:35:07] Yeah. Ironically enough, the in-person motion for judgment hearing will be today at 2.15.
[00:35:18] Scheduling for notice in chamber order changing the time of the motion. Ethan Klein, do the
[00:35:22] right thing drop everything please oh my god it's so stupid to consistently pursue this
[00:35:29] shit and try to appeal it please now that he's lost he's gonna admit he was doing it
[00:35:36] to cost Denim's money to try and not look owned at some point we got to finally fucking
[00:35:45] say this was a ridiculous process right I mean Philip DeFranco moist critical like there's
[00:35:50] going to be a point where, where people actually cover this stuff, right? I hope,
[00:35:59] yes, there's an insane Abdul El Said internal poll that came out that I've been,
[00:36:08] that I've seen. It's, it's insane, like literally insane. It's unbelievable. Anyway,
[00:36:13] on Denim's showing nearly the entire video, the court said that doesn't matter when copying,
[00:36:17] isn't necessary for criticism. The citation was, Hosinsadei versus Klein. All in the ruling,
[00:36:24] all in all, the ruling cites the literal Ethan Klein landmark fair use ruling 12 times, 12
[00:36:33] times. Every single fair use factor that went her way cited his own case law back to him.
[00:36:40] Can we talk? Wait. Like, this is a landmark ruling, a game changer once again. And for
[00:36:53] the record, if you want to know how fucking psychotic Ethan and his stupid fucking lawyer
[00:36:58] are, this is a part of the fucking documents that they filed where they said, it's mostly
[00:37:05] just shitting on me for some reason. It's like 300 pages and like most of it is just
[00:37:10] being like, well, Hassan Piker is actually the, the clients are dual Israeli, American
[00:37:17] citizens. He was born and raised in Israel, where she served as a secretary during her
[00:37:20] mandatory conscription into the Israeli defense forces, while both Ethan and Hila are highly
[00:37:23] supportive of Palestinian self-determination, extremely critical of Israel and his government.
[00:37:26] The client support of two state solution is the best interim solution to conflict, not
[00:37:30] relevant to the fucking case at all. But put that in there. In the wake of October 7th,
[00:37:34] Hassan emerged as the modern incarnation of the grand Mufti, Haj Amin al Husayni.
[00:37:43] Like al Husayni, Hassan became a passionate advocate and highly charismatic leader.
[00:37:55] Why is this in the fucking documents?
[00:37:59] I covered it briefly in the beginning and I didn't have a lot of time to fucking cover
[00:38:03] the ship extensively because this was at the peak of, at the, amidst the ongoing genocide.
[00:38:14] And since then, obviously the situation has evolved.
[00:38:17] But it's insane to me that there are pages after pages after pages riddled with psychotic
[00:38:25] screeds such as this one? What does this address this? Yeah, no, literally this is from the
[00:38:45] this is from the actual court documents. It's not a joke. Al Husaini meets Adolf Hitler
[00:38:50] November 28, 1941, he's saying I became the grand moofty of Palestine.
[00:38:58] In the Denim's lawsuit, Hassan is compared to the grand moofty of Palestine.
[00:39:06] Like Al Husaini, Hassan uses massive platform to spread genocidal rhetoric about anyone advocating
[00:39:10] for the right of Jewish self-determination in their ancestral homeland, i.e. Zionist.
[00:39:14] The primary difference in Hassan, remember, this is a copyright suit.
[00:39:17] This is a fucking DMCA suit. Why is this in the fucking DMCA suit? Is this fair use or not?
[00:39:30] And there are so many fraudulent, slop tuber charlatans that looked at this and were like,
[00:39:41] this is based. Like, there are so many fraudulent ass charlatan bitches all over the fucking
[00:39:53] commentary sphere that looked at this suit and were like, this is awesome. Everything
[00:39:58] is above board here. This is fucking fantastic. What are you talking about? It's a fucking
[00:40:08] copyright suit, not even against me. It's a copyright suit against denims.
[00:40:17] This is what I mean when I say we have a crisis in stupidity. We have a crisis in illiteracy.
[00:40:24] There is a real genuine crisis that so many people watched this shit happen and went to
[00:40:34] like perverted weird-ass fake lawyer YouTube pages where they were like well I wear a suit and I'm
[00:40:40] giving you expert analysis I'm a lawyer and everyone was like oh my god oh my god this is
[00:40:45] actually incredible oh my god this is peak this is peak lawyering it's fucking over it's so over
[00:40:51] Denims is one million percent done Denims is two million percent done Hasan's friend Denims is dead
[00:40:58] the only reason why K-Straut had to concede uh and and settle was because she didn't have enough money
[00:41:04] Yeah, this motherfucker wanted to sue me too.
[00:41:23] At some point, someone has to literally talk to this man and be like, dog, you have kids,
[00:41:31] You have businesses.
[00:41:33] You're throwing everything by the wayside.
[00:41:36] What the fuck are you doing?
[00:41:37] You've leaned into some of the biggest weirdos on the fucking Internet because they're the
[00:41:41] last people that will offer you a crumb of support.
[00:41:46] And he just doesn't listen.
[00:41:48] He doesn't listen to anything.
[00:41:49] He does not listen to anything.
[00:41:52] Is there no one in Ethan's corner that was like, brother, why are you doing any of this?
[00:41:56] Please stop.
[00:41:57] it? I said it, but of course he won't listen to me because apparently I'm the fucking grand
[00:42:07] mufti of Palestine from his assessment. Last year when he told Ethan Klein to drop the
[00:42:16] losses to fake, YouTube lawyer said, you don't know anything about copyright. Yeah. Hassan,
[00:42:21] stop pretending you understand anything about copyright, you can barely read properly.
[00:42:32] How'd that, how'd that work out for you, legal mindset? Here's the thing, here's the problem,
[00:42:38] okay? These guys are fucking losers and they're morons, but the audience demands this kind of
[00:42:48] Moronic attitude
[00:42:50] So for them they won't get punished their audiences won't turn around and be like well honestly
[00:42:56] You're really fucked up here, right? You really fucked this up. You told us that this was actually gonna be great
[00:43:04] You told that you told us everything was gonna be fucking fine
[00:43:06] I
[00:43:16] Yeah, I retweeted I said how this workout dipshit
[00:43:24] It's just like I don't I don't think I don't think that there is going to be an
[00:43:30] Actual come to Jesus moment for any of these guys
[00:43:33] Okay, I don't think there is going to be an actual come-to-geese moment for any of these guys or their audiences
[00:43:41] I think ultimately their audience doesn't want to know the truth
[00:43:45] They just want to keep fucking fighting. They want to keep fighting women in general when I keep fighting Muslims
[00:43:52] None of the none of these greats have even tweeted about it yet because they're moving on they're gonna move on to the next thing and
[00:43:57] They're wrong all the time like this is what I mean
[00:44:00] This is this is precisely what I'm talking about. They're always wrong and yet their audiences don't care about the truth at all
[00:44:06] So they just live in this fucking complete
[00:44:09] Alternative reality and I don't know how I don't know why you would want to live there
[00:44:13] I don't know why you would want to live in an alternative universe where things are happening in the real world
[00:44:19] Okay, things are happening in the real world and you're oblivious of the things that are happening in the real world
[00:44:23] And you just choose to live in this like completely hallucinated alternative reality you live in fucking Narnia where like I'm going to
[00:44:30] prison any moment now you know I went to prison in China like and you would much
[00:44:35] rather live in that universe and just move on I genuinely don't understand it
[00:44:42] I don't understand it at all it makes no fucking sense
[00:44:49] I
[00:44:58] These guys have what's your jacket's material? I don't know. Why do you keep fucking asking dude? Jesus Christ?
[00:45:04] I don't know take a second off
[00:45:07] What the hell?
[00:45:09] A top comment in their own sub about it commented about how much the judge cited his previous
[00:45:20] case and they permanently banned them for it. Of course they did, of course they did.
[00:45:26] But here's the thing like, what do you do? What do you do? What do you do with this?
[00:45:30] Because this is objectively insane. Like this is an objectively insane thing to do. But
[00:45:34] What do you do when everyone else is insane, right?
[00:45:37] What do you do when there is a real audience
[00:45:41] for this kind of insanity, where people don't look
[00:45:43] at this and go, yeah, I think this is maybe
[00:45:46] a little bit crazy for me.
[00:45:48] I'm gonna move on from this.
[00:45:49] I'm gonna move on with my life,
[00:45:51] and probably not trust these resources ever again.
[00:45:55] Instead of that, what they end up doing is seek out
[00:46:00] Further confirmation bias preserving idiocy.
[00:46:07] You're ignoring women. What is this? No, but for real, thanks for actually covering these losses
[00:46:10] since the very beginning. It's disappointing seeing so many creators who make react content,
[00:46:13] not say a peep out of fear of being called snarkers. Yeah, I mean, it's disgusting.
[00:46:21] Yeah, the OG fair use suit made Ethan Klein a hero among YouTubers and everyone on the internet.
[00:46:25] Will people acknowledge that he tried to kill his own fair use precedent? Probably not. I mean, we'll see.
[00:46:43] There were so many, there were so many instances where they could have just pulled out of this,
[00:46:48] right? I think one of the really solid instances where, you know, the fan base could have maybe
[00:46:53] offered some kind of check and balance towards their favorite contractor, Ethan Klein, was
[00:46:58] when I showed in that interview, when I showed in that here, the debate, the fake debate
[00:47:05] that we had, that he had actually posted about me like 109 or 110 or 111 times or whatever
[00:47:12] the fuck it was, like 120, I can't remember the exact number.
[00:47:15] And he couldn't believe it, he could not believe it.
[00:47:17] He was like, there's no way.
[00:47:19] Yeah.
[00:47:20] Is what he thinks someone with money should be able to abuse the court to silence their
[00:47:29] enemy's speech and expression, because that is the standard Ethan is setting, not a standard
[00:47:34] about transformation, not one about protecting intellectual property.
[00:47:37] It's just the standard of don't piss off Ethan Klein.
[00:47:40] And if you're not disgusted by that notion, you should be.
[00:47:44] Ethan would be.
[00:47:45] In this country, we value free speech and what a reaction video ultimately is, is free speech.
[00:47:52] I think if you're a reactor on Twitch, if you make a good faith effort to comment, and
[00:47:56] if you make a good faith effort to promote the author, to link to them, to try to drive
[00:48:02] traffic to the original video, I think you're probably pretty much doing the right thing
[00:48:06] in that.
[00:48:07] Yeah, you know what's ironic about that is that he didn't target any of the people who
[00:48:12] didn't do that, right? He didn't target ex-QC. And when people asked him like, why the fuck
[00:48:16] wouldn't you target ex-QC for this? Like he literally did that shit. He didn't even abide
[00:48:22] by that standard. He said, well, ex-QC agrees with me. So it's fine. And it's ironic because
[00:48:26] he also brought that up in the fucking lawsuit. One of the main reasons why he thought, one
[00:48:33] of the main reasons why he thought this, this was a solid fucking lawsuit was because Denim's
[00:48:38] disagreed with his original assessment, you know, cooked, cooked, cooked, legal
[00:48:45] lightning round, like, gross dude, fucking gross. God, damn, people are so fucking
[00:48:53] stupid. It's fine. Fair use doesn't give a shit if you watch the video first or
[00:48:57] not. I didn't watch this video first. I knew they would watch the entire video,
[00:49:02] react to it instantly, giving them no time to form an opinion. I have to show
[00:49:07] that I've watched it before and thought well I have something good to add. I didn't watch your video
[00:49:12] beforehand bro. A long-form irresistible piece of content that I knew that these streamers couldn't
[00:49:18] resist they couldn't avoid the temptation. Yeah I don't know why he also presented this like a
[00:49:22] fucking Machiavellian plot too like he was like ooh you've fallen into my trap and then all these
[00:49:28] fucking morons were like oh hell yeah base dude you trapped these women. I hate women I'm glad you
[00:49:36] trapped them and destroyed them fucking idiots did I have no goddamn respect for any of these dumb
[00:49:42] bitches I swear to God look the only way I will ever respect any of these fucking dumbasses if
[00:49:47] they turn around kind of like kilotonics and many others who are in the you know commentary sphere
[00:49:53] turn around and say look by God's be by God's we fucked up initially we were all destiny orbiters
[00:49:58] it was fucking stupid and and you know work to work to correct the goddamn record of watching
[00:50:05] it, the second was published. It's speech, bro. I don't need anyone's permission to say anything.
[00:50:11] You can't just-
[00:50:11] Perfect vindication for not watching the fucking context puke, by the way, initially,
[00:50:16] because he was trying to trap me in that same goddamn bullshit. Imagine having to
[00:50:20] fucking deal with that nonstop on top of dealing with the ADL, on top of dealing with a bunch of
[00:50:25] Israel advocacy organizations that are actively trying to fucking deplatform me, that I would
[00:50:29] would also have to deal with a god damn lawsuit.
[00:50:32] Like, it's fucking ridiculous.
[00:50:35] Ridiculous, dude.
[00:50:36] Say whatever you want.
[00:50:37] You can't just say I'm in favor of genocide.
[00:50:40] You gotta watch what you say.
[00:50:41] I'm not standing by this shit anymore.
[00:50:43] And I'm gonna call out people like Brendan too,
[00:50:45] because this is just bad for everyone.
[00:50:47] And it's especially egregious considering the hypocrisy,
[00:50:50] the whole free speech thing that these guys apparently
[00:50:52] love so well.
[00:50:53] Free speech!
[00:50:54] You get a free speech!
[00:50:56] Shut up, dumbass.
[00:50:57] You're shutting down criticism
[00:50:58] and you're pretending like it's a copyright issue.
[00:51:01] It's not.
[00:51:02] It's fair use.
[00:51:03] It's protected speech.
[00:51:04] This isn't a free speech issue.
[00:51:05] This is people are fucking getting way too comfortable,
[00:51:09] slandering, and saying whatever they want about people online
[00:51:13] under the guise of free speech.
[00:51:15] There's lots of video shitting on me on the internet.
[00:51:17] By the way, this guy literally calls, ironically,
[00:51:21] he's the last person who should be calling anybody
[00:51:23] a fucking pedophile given his Reddit,
[00:51:25] you know, he's his Reddit accounts that were unearthed, but he also literally calls every
[00:51:31] person that he fucking hates a pedophile all the goddamn time, talking about slander.
[00:51:38] You want to talk about fucking defamation?
[00:51:41] I have his ass dead to rights.
[00:51:44] I have his ass dead to rights.
[00:51:46] There is a literal article that he read about the fucking brothel that I went to in 2010
[00:51:50] that got rated in 2016 knowing full well that the accusations by the state were wrong and
[00:51:57] that the brothel was able to successfully sue the fucking state he knows the truth.
[00:52:01] Okay?
[00:52:02] And yet he still participates in this fucking slander over and over again.
[00:52:07] He should be feeling real happy that I don't fucking pursue this kind of shit.
[00:52:14] You got banned from celebrity poker for calling a woman a prostitute Jesus Christ
[00:52:21] You know, I wish I could just delete them off the internet, you know, wouldn't that be nice when that be just convenient
[00:52:26] Yeah, he's also he's also literally suing. No, no, Samson as well
[00:52:32] Again, no consequences. Well, thank God a judge actually is issuing a little bit of fucking consequences
[00:52:40] Yeah. The brothel lies even though he personally debunked it. Ethan Klein is smearing son again.
[00:52:45] He says the brothel was ready for human trafficking in 2021 on leftover.
[00:52:48] So he debunked the claim himself. There was no arrest about human trafficking.
[00:52:50] All accusations were unfounded and false. Berlin had to pay 250,000 euros in damages.
[00:52:55] And Ethan Klein knows that because he fucking read it on his stream next to me. Okay. In 2021.
[00:53:02] But of course, in 2024, when he wants the fucking slander, he plays fast and loose with the truth.
[00:53:08] And there are plenty of people who fucking despise me who will go along with it
[00:53:17] It's just so gross I just want people to be a little bit more intelligent man, I want people to be a little bit
[00:53:25] Is that too much to ask?
[00:53:28] Is that a crazy demand that we just you know not behave this way?
[00:53:32] That we have a little bit more care and a little bit more consideration for the truth
[00:53:43] It sucks it sucks it genuinely fucking sucks
[00:53:48] Anyway, I'm gonna talk to Yanis Var Focuss now about my band
[00:53:52] From the UK and his band from Germany for an hour
[00:53:55] You can't do it. I just wanted to play this out
[00:53:57] That's free speech.
[00:53:58] I gotta pee and then...
[00:53:58] You know, and free speech is tested when it's targeted at you.
[00:54:02] You can't just say whatever the fuck you want.
[00:54:04] It's time to start holding people accountable for the shit they're saying.
[00:54:07] I fight every day to protect free speech.
[00:54:09] I put my money on the line, I go to court,
[00:54:11] and I'll do it as many times as I need to.
[00:54:13] You guys have been doing this for years.
[00:54:15] It's... the jig is up.
[00:54:16] You're gonna have to tell to a judge, literally.
[00:54:18] By the way, this guy, like, is threatening to sue people.
[00:54:20] All over fair use, am I right to free speech?
[00:54:22] And if I wanted to sue you,
[00:54:24] I probably could fucking ruin your whole life.
[00:54:26] It'll be great to...
[00:54:27] Sue them. I'd love to sue her. I'd love to sue him. I'm gonna sue you. It's not a threat. I'm going to sue you.
[00:54:31] We get to pursue legal fees for this garbage anti-free speech lawsuit.
[00:54:36] And to all the detractors who are saying that I'm a hypocrite pursuing for copyright infringement, I just have this to say.
[00:54:45] I don't care.
[00:54:46] It's easy to defend free speech when it's got nothing to do with you, right?
[00:54:50] When it makes you look good, but when free speech makes you look bad,
[00:54:55] Then let's see how much you defend it.
[00:55:19] I'm here!
[00:55:25] Help, I'm scared. Don't be scared. It's not, I'm not pooping, dude. I'm not pooping. Yeah.
[00:55:40] Anyway, that's the best situation. We'll obviously get back to that in a little bit. But before
[00:55:46] I do that, obviously, I am joining this event. Hold on.
[00:56:02] Okay, just joined. I'm gonna have them. Hello. Can you guys hear
[00:56:05] me? Hello? Hello? What's going on guys? Can you hear me? I'm
[00:56:12] live right now as well for the record. Just so you know, we
[00:56:16] are alive and speaking. Okay, perfect. I'm going to turn off my camera and then just be live on
[00:56:22] stream. Okay. Okay. Let me kick it off. Hello, hello, hello and welcome my mayor and Kaleebi
[00:56:30] for the N25 and with me tonight, two people whose words are apparently so influential,
[00:56:35] so subversive that governments are banning them from entire countries to shut them up.
[00:56:40] Hassan Piker, banned from the UK earlier this week, and Yanis Faroufakis, banned from Germany
[00:56:46] two years ago. What links these two cases? You guessed it, criticism of Israel for its genocide
[00:56:52] in Gaza. Both Yanis and Hassan were due to speak at prominent events on exactly that,
[00:56:57] so tonight we dig into this new authoritarian playbook in Europe to protect Israel,
[00:57:02] how and why governments are doing this, and what all of us who care about Gaza
[00:57:06] and human rights everywhere can do about it. Janis, I'll hand it to you.
[00:57:11] Well, welcome, welcome, welcome. And I suspect we are being welcomed to your stream as well.
[00:57:17] So, you know, it's a double welcome. Hassan and I, just in case people didn't know about it,
[00:57:23] I'm sure that most of you didn't know it. Tonight Hassan and I were meant to be live together
[00:57:30] at the town hall at Kings Cross in the heart of the city of London,
[00:57:34] as part of a podcast that I participate in called the Connor class. That doesn't really matter at all.
[00:57:39] The fact of the matter was we were meant to be together. And you know, Hassan, my intentions for tonight were to discuss with you
[00:57:47] the way, I mean, not just the way, but your experiences in trying to energize the left-wing youth in your country, the United States.
[00:57:57] And, you know, to try to extract some lessons from you for the United Kingdom, for Europe,
[00:58:03] from, you know, for the non-American world.
[00:58:06] But of course, the UK government, just like the Berlin authorities two years ago, had
[00:58:13] other ideas.
[00:58:15] We were found to be insufficiently in support of the genocide.
[00:58:21] We, you know, we didn't show enough character in supporting the Israeli genocide of the
[00:58:26] Palestinians. And you know, this stop us from having a discussion about politics in our countries.
[00:58:31] So Hassan, over you go.
[00:58:34] Yeah, thank you for having me. I think I have a lot more confidence in or had a lot more confidence in
[00:58:44] liberal democracy and European countries safeguarding liberal democracy in spite of everything
[00:58:51] that I had seen over the past three years, but I no longer have that confidence at all.
[00:58:57] It's shocking when you think about the history of the United Kingdom and what kind of subversive
[00:59:05] and there is a radical thinkers. The British government is in the past offered a shelter
[00:59:10] to in comparison to people that simply oppose Israel's genocide of the Palestinians. I
[00:59:17] I mean, it's a sign of the times that liberalism is in crisis, it's failing, it's deteriorating,
[00:59:24] and the people who are tasked with safeguarding it, you know, self-described liberals themselves,
[00:59:29] are also participating in the demise.
[00:59:32] I think that there are a lot broader consequences that we should probably take a look at and
[00:59:38] see this as a serious warning sign and hopefully organize against it because we're running
[00:59:43] out of time.
[00:59:44] I think all of these actions taken by the Labour government, taken by the inaction by
[00:59:49] the Democratic Party in opposition to the MAGA movement in America are allowing, I would
[00:59:56] say an appeasement phase that's allowing fascist movements to grow in the Western world.
[01:00:00] And that's terrifying.
[01:00:01] Well, you know, Hassan, I think that you owe a debt of gratitude to the British government
[01:00:07] because it saved you from this delusion regarding Europe's liberalism.
[01:00:12] It's a delusion that is a very touching that a lot of us used to have.
[01:00:16] I lost it at least 10, 12 years ago.
[01:00:19] You're losing it now.
[01:00:20] It's a delusion especially amongst the progressives in the United States who think of Europe as
[01:00:27] the kind of United States you would love to have.
[01:00:31] Even our friend Bernie Sanders often refers to Sweden as an example of a social democracy,
[01:00:37] but that's 15 years too late.
[01:00:40] Sweden is no longer so.
[01:00:42] Germany. I grew up in a fascist dictatorship in Greece in the 1960s and 1970s. And my parents
[01:00:49] used to think of Germany as our liberal support group. And we used to take holidays there.
[01:00:56] My father used to say, my father was a communist by the way, but he used to say that when he's
[01:00:59] in Germany, under Billy Brown, the source of Democrats, he was breathing fresh democratic
[01:01:06] air. And you know, so you know, but where, when did I lose my virginity? You lost it
[01:01:11] now. I lost it 12 years ago. And I'll tell you exactly where I lost it in the Council
[01:01:18] of European Finance Ministers in my first meeting when I went in there as a socialist,
[01:01:24] but nevertheless, fully prepared to compromise and to be very, you know, reasonable with
[01:01:30] all these new Libyans.
[01:01:31] Oh, we lost the honest, what do you do with the honest, we lost you for a second.
[01:01:41] Ah, okay.
[01:01:42] You said you went to compromise as a pragmatic person with that's right.
[01:01:47] So I said, you know, we have a different agenda to yours, but this is what Democrats do.
[01:01:51] You define compromises and the German finance minister, a certain the late Wolfgang Schäuble,
[01:01:58] around and in no uncompromising terms said to me elections should not be allowed to change
[01:02:06] economic policy. I mean, and I said, well, that is a godsend for the Chinese Communist
[01:02:12] Party. I was about to say it's very Soviet attitude.
[01:02:16] So, you know, welcome to the club, Hassan. You know, Europe is not a paradise. The Democrats
[01:02:21] in the United States would like to imagine it to be.
[01:02:23] Aslan, I'd love to ask you, it's been a couple of days since the ban came through. What's
[01:02:29] the response to the ban been like? Has anything actually surprised you about that response?
[01:02:34] I've been surprised on both ends of the political spectrum. On the one hand, I have had a tremendous
[01:02:41] amount of slanderous articles written about me from a lot of pro-Israel institutions like
[01:02:47] the Free Press or even the Washington Post editorial board that's constantly writing
[01:02:51] about how I'm a dangerous threat to the American public.
[01:02:56] And because this was such a low bar to clear, and I guess it was a great way to dunk on
[01:03:01] the labor government as well, which nobody seems to like, including their own voters.
[01:03:08] A lot of people actually wrote The Economist, the Washington Post editorial board, Free
[01:03:13] Press and all these other oppositional media outlets actually wrote a defense of me and
[01:03:20] and a defensive free speech and free expression in general.
[01:03:24] So that was a little bit, you know,
[01:03:26] that was a little bit exciting.
[01:03:28] And then what also shocked me on the other side
[01:03:32] was that there were a lot of,
[01:03:36] there were a lot of right-wingers who had made careers
[01:03:40] off of defending free speech,
[01:03:42] which from their perspective,
[01:03:44] it simply meant apparently to the right to be able to say
[01:03:47] slurs and the right to be able to incite hate and then receive no opposition or no pushback
[01:03:54] whatsoever. Because a lot of them, instead of defending the principle of free speech and saying,
[01:04:00] look, you have a right to say things that I disagree with, that's the whole point of free
[01:04:04] speech, turned around and celebrated the decision of the labor government, saying, yeah, this is
[01:04:09] well deserved. You deserve this. You deserve this ban. And I found that to be a little bit
[01:04:16] surprising. You mean JD Vance and Elon Musk did not rush to your support? No, no, I'm still waiting
[01:04:24] on that. I'm still waiting on JD Vance because he had had conversations with David Lamme and numerous
[01:04:28] other figures over and over again, warning about the dangers of the UK losing its interest in
[01:04:36] defending free speech and he's nowhere to be seen. Yeah. Can I ask you a broader question? Because
[01:04:44] Because we need to talk about Gaza and Palestine because they can't stop thinking about it.
[01:04:51] It's clear that we were going to go to London and talk about all sorts of other things,
[01:04:55] but they are forcing us essentially to revisit the question of Gaza.
[01:04:58] Now, it is my distinct impression, and I want you to tell me whether it is also yours or
[01:05:04] whether you want to challenge that impression of mine, that the fascists of the world are
[01:05:10] doing a splendid job in washing themselves in the hands, their dirty hands clean of anti-semitism,
[01:05:20] by espousing the most horrible, heinous version of Zionism. Is that your view too?
[01:05:28] Oh, absolutely. I think there is a very interesting whitewashing and laundering of the
[01:05:36] prior anti-Semitic history of a lot of Christian nations, a lot of western nations, and this
[01:05:46] abdication of historic responsibility, where you hear even the likes of Mark Carney and
[01:05:52] certainly European leaders claim that anti-Semitism is actually coming to Europe by way of migration,
[01:05:59] Arab migration, Muslim migration.
[01:06:01] I find that very strange. I find that really funny and maybe a little scary when I hear
[01:06:06] that from a German leader, especially, because the Holocaust happened not that long ago.
[01:06:12] There are still some relatives that were around when that was taking place. I read it as Holocaust
[01:06:18] revisionism to a certain degree, but it's certainly a concept that benefits Israel's
[01:06:27] ultimate goals, and therefore Israel is perfectly willing to abide by that. And as a matter of fact,
[01:06:31] Benjamin Nenial himself is personally engaged in Holocaust revisionism when he once famously
[01:06:37] said that Hitler didn't want to actually kill the Jews until he had a conversation with the
[01:06:42] Grand Mufti of Palestine, a British occupation holdover that had no real sway over the Palestinian
[01:06:49] public whatsoever. The Grand Mufti had convinced Adolf Hitler of actually killing all of the Jews
[01:06:56] because he was worried, according to Benjamin Netanyahu, that if Hitler doesn't kill all the Jews,
[01:07:00] then they'll go to Israel. This is Holocaust revisionism, and it was panned and criticized widely
[01:07:09] by Jewish society and certainly Israeli society at the time. And yet, it's most commonly deployed
[01:07:16] nowadays, whenever there are comparisons to be made between Hamas and the Nazis, where you see a
[01:07:21] lot of Zionists openly state that Hamas is actually far worse than the Nazis ever were,
[01:07:26] which I find to be insane. It's an insane statement to make. The reason why I'm bringing
[01:07:32] that up is because I had a conversation with LBC earlier before I'm having this conversation with
[01:07:40] you guys and the host was a wonderful guy, Louis Goodall. We started off having a normal back and
[01:07:48] forth. And one of the things that they brought up, one of the things the host brought up
[01:07:52] was the fact that I make this comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany. And he said that
[01:07:59] this was very offensive, deeply offensive. And I was like, look, I'm not very precious
[01:08:02] about utilizing the term Nazi when referencing Israel because they're doing a genocide. It's
[01:08:07] a fascist ideology. That's precisely what the Nazis did. And by the end of that conversation
[01:08:14] was turned into a debate almost instantly. I think he was almost in favor of the ban
[01:08:22] himself, even though he started off with not being in favor of it. But the reason why I
[01:08:29] bring that up is because Israel gets to make these Nazi comparisons. But if anyone opposes
[01:08:34] Israel that makes similar comparisons, especially because it's actually more historically appropriate
[01:08:40] to make the comparisons between two, you know, much more powerful militarized countries that
[01:08:47] are engaging in the act of genocide and the paramilitary forces that are fighting back
[01:08:52] against it, a fight for their existence, a fight for survival.
[01:08:58] People get very offended.
[01:08:59] Sun, just to circle back to the BAM, you were due to speak at Oxford Union.
[01:09:05] What were you going to say at Oxford that was so dangerous?
[01:09:08] Maybe you can say it now.
[01:09:09] I mean, I don't really know if it's supposed to be a debate between myself and my uncle.
[01:09:14] So maybe Shabana Mahmood has a better idea of what I was about to say at Oxford Union.
[01:09:20] But we're still doing that conversation tomorrow.
[01:09:24] And I don't know what the conversation was going to be about, but I do know what I have
[01:09:31] said at Oxford Union last time I was there last year.
[01:09:35] And that was an extensive conversation around the dangers of anti-Semitism, ironically enough,
[01:09:41] one of the biggest dangers being the false conflation between Judaism and Zionism and
[01:09:47] how a lot of conservatives, a lot of Zionist Jews don't recognize that this personal connection
[01:09:57] that they present is actually teaching people the wrong lesson and that a lot of people
[01:10:03] don't realize that Israel is falling out of favor. And at the time, this was a year and a half ago,
[01:10:10] it had already started falling out of favor. It wasn't as unpopular as it is now because Israel
[01:10:15] officially is a pariah state in the Western world now, is viewed as such by the masses.
[01:10:21] But what I was trying to compare the two is like, look, I'm a Muslim, I'm a Muslim American, right?
[01:10:26] Like in the aftermath of 9-11, this would be equivalent to me running around being like,
[01:10:30] I love ISIS. And if you actually criticize the Islamic state, and there are attempts to create
[01:10:37] the Islamic caliphate, you're being Islamophobic. That argument is ridiculous, right? And that's
[01:10:43] what it's going to turn into. And that's only going to fulment more anti-Semitism and create
[01:10:48] more anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, especially when you have advocacy organizations actively
[01:10:53] censoring people. And then I fell victim to that same warning that I was presenting.
[01:11:00] Can I jump in here? There is some degree of distance between us on one thing.
[01:11:09] Now, there is no doubt that Israel is using Nazi-like techniques of total annihilation in Gaza.
[01:11:18] I mean, what is the difference between what the Nazis did at the Warsaw ghetto
[01:11:22] and what they are doing to Gaza, not just since 7th of October, but for decades now?
[01:11:27] Yeah, it's a ghetto. The Gaza is not a country. There's no war. It's a ghetto.
[01:11:31] They're shooting at them as fish in a barrel. They've been doing it now for decades.
[01:11:37] It's a war-so-ghetto writ large and lasts much longer.
[01:11:42] But I still believe, I hold on to the old-fashioned view, that the Nazis were uniquely evil.
[01:11:50] And the reason why I say that is because what the Israelis are now doing in Gaza is genocide
[01:12:02] and what they are doing in the West Bank is rapid ethnic cleansing.
[01:12:06] But the uniqueness of the Holocaust, in my mind, I may be wrong, correct me if I'm wrong,
[01:12:14] It goes down to the attitude of the Nazis, their mindset that reminds me of that of a collector.
[01:12:25] Take a stamp collector. A stamp collector wants to collect every fucking stamp there is of the particular, you know, Bolivia or of Mexico, whatever.
[01:12:34] He needs to put it in his collection, everything, single one. The Nazis were exactly the same. They wanted to kill every Jew there was.
[01:12:41] Before they set out to come to Thessaloniki in Greece, to go to wherever it is, they went to wipe out whole Jewish communities.
[01:12:50] They had, since the 1930s, the early 1930s, they had mapped out the cities that they were going to occupy.
[01:12:57] They knew the telephone numbers and the addresses, if they had telephones back then, of the Jews that they wanted to pick up.
[01:13:02] They were like stamp collectors. Whereas you know the Israelis, you know, if the West, let's say,
[01:13:10] shoves the Palestinians into container ships and takes them over to Niger or Texas or to wherever,
[01:13:16] I think the, you know, the Netanyahu's of the world are going to be very upset because they will
[01:13:22] lose their raison d'etre, which is to carry out the genocide slowly. But they're not going to chase
[01:13:27] them to the coordinates of the four corners of the earth to kill them all. The Nazis were unique in
[01:13:33] that, but that doesn't mean that, you know, I take your point, you know, the Netanyahu's of the
[01:13:38] world feel utterly free to make the Nazi comparisons, but if you make it or if I make it, we're immediately
[01:13:44] condemned. And also, you know, the other point I wanted to make that came to me when you were
[01:13:51] speaking is that, you know, this view that the Muslims that arrive in Europe are bringing with them
[01:14:00] antisemitism is pathetic for historical reasons. I mean, the only places on earth where the Jews
[01:14:07] were completely safe and totally, you know, free, liberated of an antisemitic environment,
[01:14:18] which were those cities Baghdad, right? Yeah. The Ottoman Empire was a safe haven.
[01:14:25] The Ottoman Empire, Salonika, Istanbul, those were the Cairo, those were the places where
[01:14:33] the Jews never faced antisemitism. The moment they came to Europe, it was antisemitism galore.
[01:14:41] Yeah. So can I push back on this because in a comradely manner, so
[01:14:46] So, well, two reasons. One, the Nazi comparison isn't to make a one-to-one comparison, regardless,
[01:14:55] because obviously, the Israeli genocide has not reached the standard of the Holocaust
[01:15:00] yet, right? But you brought up the intentionality argument that the Nazis were intending to
[01:15:07] wipe out every single Jewish person, wherever they could get their hands on them. And there's
[01:15:12] definitely truth there. Now, obviously, there's a couple different scholarly debates on the issue,
[01:15:18] on this issue in particular, the idea of like, did they set out to wholesale slaughter every
[01:15:23] single Jewish person from the start, or did it evolve into that over time? But that's not the
[01:15:30] conversation that I'm interested in having. The mentality that I have on this is two-fold one.
[01:15:38] This is the principle of why we have tremendous amounts of Holocaust scholarship and studies
[01:15:46] in genocides in particular so that we understand it, we identify it, we recognize the banality of
[01:15:52] evil, we recognize how societies can turn into genocidal societies and how people refuse to oppose
[01:16:00] it. And it's the same principle behind the intentionality debate or the intentionality of the
[01:16:07] genocide statute. We have that so that we can stop a genocide while it's
[01:16:13] happening rather than oppose it after it's done and then calculate the death
[01:16:18] toll and then recognize that it's a genocide if you know a sufficient
[01:16:23] number of people have been killed. But the second opinion that I want to put
[01:16:29] forward is Amy Cesar, who has talked about the non-exceptional or non-unique nature
[01:16:38] of the Holocaust and discourse on colonialism, where the passage goes, yes, it would be worthwhile
[01:16:46] to study clinically in detail the steps taken by Hitler and Hitlerism, and to reveal the very
[01:16:51] distinguished, very humanistic, very Christian bourgeois of the 20th century, that without his
[01:16:57] being aware of it, he has a Hitler inside him that Hitler inhabits him, that Hitler is his demon,
[01:17:03] that if he rails against him, he's being inconsistent and at that, at bottom, what he cannot forgive
[01:17:09] Hitler for is not the crime in itself, the crime against man, it is not the humiliation of man as
[01:17:16] such, it is the crime against the white man, the humiliation of the white man and the fact that
[01:17:22] applied to Europe colonialist procedures, which until then had been reserved exclusively for the
[01:17:28] Arabs of Algeria, the Coolies of India, and the N words of Africa. And I think there is a similar
[01:17:37] situation unfolding here as well, where Arabs by and large, due to Orientalism and due to the
[01:17:43] dehumanization that they've been subjected to, are not being seen as human in the same way
[01:17:52] that the victims in October 7 are,
[01:17:56] because the victims in October 7,
[01:17:58] the civilian population of Israeli society broadly,
[01:18:02] well, they live in towns similar to ours.
[01:18:05] They sometimes travel to Europe.
[01:18:07] They have family members, immediate family members
[01:18:09] that live in our neighborhoods.
[01:18:11] So of course, October 7 is an exceptionally unique pogrom
[01:18:16] against Jews is the way that it was presented to me
[01:18:19] on LBC earlier today.
[01:18:22] so it's top of mind for me at this moment, as opposed to my real slight that could be perceived as anti-Semitic because I've said Israel is a thousand times worse than Hamas and as a harm reduction voter I would vote for Hamas over Israel every single time.
[01:18:40] You can only arrive at that conclusion if you think and then this ties up with the with the
[01:18:48] Nazi comparisons being seen as as too offensive, right? Not by you to
[01:18:54] obviously I'm just saying broadly when people say it's like unacceptable, right? Because I think we
[01:18:59] can have a reasonable disagreement on this, but I don't think you would make that the biggest
[01:19:04] point of contention at all, whereas some people do. The idea is that some people are collateralized.
[01:19:14] And in this circumstance, Arabs are collateralized, Muslims are collateralized. There's a justification
[01:19:20] for why they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, as opposed to human beings that are seen
[01:19:27] as full human beings are victims, unconditionally victims. And this is the reason why I brought
[01:19:35] up the Amys as our comparison. Because I think Germany itself had participated in genocides
[01:19:41] that are mechanized and unbelievably heinous Belgium as well. And they don't get the same
[01:19:48] emphasis.
[01:19:49] Look, there's nothing that you said that I disagree with.
[01:19:54] I don't see any, any, any, any, uh, contestation there.
[01:19:57] Uh, the, the, for me, uh, look, I'm fascinated by the stamp collector's image of certain
[01:20:04] Nazis, not all of them, because as you said, you know, in 1930 it was different.
[01:20:09] I mean, these, uh, stamp collector's mentality was very confined in, in a group of 20 Nazis.
[01:20:15] But then, as time progressed, I mean, most of the Nazi party in 1935-1936 would have
[01:20:20] been happy if all the Jews were to be evacuated from Europe.
[01:20:23] For some of them, it wasn't enough.
[01:20:28] And I think philosophically, this is quite fascinating for me.
[01:20:32] When I found out that they had written down whole catalogues of all the Jews across Europe,
[01:20:38] well before, five, six years before they occupied those cities, you know, that is, you know,
[01:20:45] Well, it's mind-boggling, but it doesn't stop us from making the points that you made,
[01:20:52] which are very well taken and received, that as you said, the Arabs are collateralized,
[01:20:58] the Palestinians are treated as under mentioned, as subhuman.
[01:21:03] There is a, the other point which you raised, which I think is absolutely spot on, is that
[01:21:10] the outrage against Hitler was primarily because he treated the French or the Poles in particular
[01:21:21] as if they were Congolese, as if they were Arabs. They had no problem with what the King
[01:21:28] of Belgium was doing in the Congo. They had no problem with what later in the 50s the
[01:21:33] French were doing in Algiers, but not to white European Christians.
[01:21:39] So yeah, absolutely.
[01:21:40] I take your point of view.
[01:21:41] Yeah.
[01:21:42] And it's going to bring it to present day Germany and what happened to you two years
[01:21:46] ago when you were banned from entering Germany because you were attending the Berlin-Palestine
[01:21:52] Congress.
[01:21:53] Can you tell us what happened there briefly and what did it teach you?
[01:21:58] What might some expect now based on your experience and knowledge in that area?
[01:22:02] Oh, by the way, that saga continues.
[01:22:05] I just heard today that my court case, I've taken the German Authorities to court over
[01:22:12] at BAN, is going to be brought to trial sometime in the second part of 2026.
[01:22:18] I'm very much looking forward to attending.
[01:22:21] And it's interesting that I will be able to attend, even though there was this BAN against
[01:22:25] me.
[01:22:26] And I will just give you a very brief account of why, because that BAN was broken when BMW
[01:22:32] invited me to give a keynote speech at their offices. So you see, sometimes capital, you know,
[01:22:40] goes into conflict with its own stooge's outrageous behavior. Anyway,
[01:22:48] but we know who the real masters are, right? I mean, it's ultimately still capital. That's
[01:22:53] that's a perfect example of that. Yeah. So, you know, if Elon Musk wanted to, you know,
[01:22:59] you know, your band would have been overturned.
[01:23:01] Yeah.
[01:23:02] So, but look, in my case, I think the reason why I was banned was not something I had said,
[01:23:11] but because our organization, DM25, we had the audacity to organize a conference in Berlin
[01:23:21] on the very subversive topic.
[01:23:22] The theme was a just peace in the Middle East, a heinous crime, a just peace in the Middle
[01:23:29] East.
[01:23:30] But so what irked them?
[01:23:32] What made them go through this process of banning me in a way which was actually, I
[01:23:38] mean, it was very clumsy.
[01:23:40] They were always going to lose legally within their own country.
[01:23:42] I think I'm going to win this court case, but of course too late.
[01:23:46] I think that the reason why they were so pissed off was because of who the co-organizers
[01:23:51] were.
[01:23:52] organizers of that conference were Jews, German Jews who were treated because they were not,
[01:23:59] they could not be banned, they were in Berlin, they were in situ. So when people like Udy Rads
[01:24:04] and various other friends of ours and comrades, Jews, turned up in that conference, you know,
[01:24:12] one of them was holding a little placard that didn't give himself, saying,
[01:24:17] Jews against genocide. And he was beaten up by police. And while he was being beaten up,
[01:24:21] an Aryan policeman. Yeah, exactly. While he was beating up, he said, would it have been okay if I
[01:24:29] said Jews in favor of genocide? And then he was beaten up even more. So I, you know, that's a
[01:24:35] difference in the United Kingdom. It was just a very vulgar application of the rule that, you
[01:24:42] know, this labor government can never go against the Israeli lobby. It really is very simple. In
[01:24:48] In our case in Berlin, it was a bit more sophisticated than that, you know, they were essentially
[01:24:55] banning me to get at the Jews, the German Jews, that did not support genocide, insufficient
[01:25:04] support of genocide.
[01:25:05] This is an outrageous crime today in liberal Europe.
[01:25:09] And as they call themselves, they're the wrong kind of Jew in Germany.
[01:25:14] For our state-side audience who may not be aware, this Germany is still way ahead of
[01:25:18] the UK in terms of the extent of the repression for a Palestine activism.
[01:25:24] Just look at the case, for example, of Hussain Dugroul, who we've spoken with, the OGRU.
[01:25:29] You know it, Hassan.
[01:25:30] I mean, that's just insane.
[01:25:31] Well, he's another Turk that's being unjustly maligned by the European Union countries.
[01:25:38] I don't know whether you know that, in the case of Hussain, we're talking about the same person.
[01:25:44] Yes, he's in Dori, yeah.
[01:25:46] Yeah, in his case, what his case demonstrates is that the German state learned its lesson from me.
[01:25:54] Why am I saying that? Because when they banned me, it was the German authorities that banned me.
[01:26:01] Which meant, as a European citizen, I had the right to take them to the German courts.
[01:26:06] the German authorities did something I had the right to take into the German courts.
[01:26:10] And the moment I took them to the German courts, they were in a bind because they could see that
[01:26:16] they could not win that court case. This is why they've been delaying it. You know, this, this,
[01:26:22] the hearing of this trial has been postponed again and again and again. It's almost two and a half years.
[01:26:28] So in the case of Hussein, you know what they did? It was the German authorities that went for it.
[01:26:33] It was the European Commission under Ursula von der Leyen that banned him and she created a delicious Catch-22.
[01:26:43] That is, he's banned from and exiting Germany by Brussels, not by Germany.
[01:26:48] So he cannot take the German authorities to the German course because they didn't do anything against him.
[01:26:53] So he has to take them to the European course in Brussels, but he's banned from travelling to Brussels.
[01:26:59] You know, that is ingenious, isn't it? I mean, no, it's, it's devastating.
[01:27:04] In a much more sophisticated manner. Yeah. And, and the sanctions on top of that. And I do find
[01:27:10] there that there is a delicious irony in not just that, but also that recently France got a little
[01:27:17] bit of the same kind of medicine that they dished out to the likes of Hussain Douro, where if I
[01:27:24] recall correctly, there was a French prosecutor in the either ICC or the ICJ that was a victim to the
[01:27:29] American sanctions because of, you know, they're following their job in prosecuting Israel to
[01:27:37] some capacity, or Israeli version of some capacity, and visa, mastercard, and all of these other
[01:27:43] American corporations, which, you know, dovetails perfectly to your latest book as well about
[01:27:49] techno feudalism, decided to abide by American restrictions that were applied to a Frenchman,
[01:27:57] who was a French judge on an international court doing his job, and now all of a sudden,
[01:28:04] he couldn't use his credit cards. And this became a major issue for France because this was
[01:28:11] a violation of the sovereignty of a European citizen who was simply doing their job. It was the
[01:28:19] ICC judges, what my Chad is saying, they're correcting me. So that's precisely what the
[01:28:26] European Commission has done to Jose Endoro, trapped him inside of Germany, and gone far
[01:28:31] beyond that. As a matter of fact, I believe not only he is sanctioned, but his family is also
[01:28:36] sanctioned. He has like a minor stipend that he gets, and that's the only money that he can have.
[01:28:43] He can't use any of his bank accounts. His family can't use any of their bank accounts,
[01:28:46] so they're genuinely suffering right now in this torturous legal limbo. And again, that is
[01:28:55] is so unbelievably unprincipled for Europe to do,
[01:28:59] it shocks the conscious.
[01:29:02] And yet, for some reason, there isn't mass protest against this.
[01:29:06] But you know what?
[01:29:07] We mentioned Nivella Guy, you, that's a French judge.
[01:29:10] The judge who was appointed by the French state
[01:29:14] to the International Criminal Court, right?
[01:29:16] I mean, he's doing the job that the French state gave him.
[01:29:18] And the French state does not defend him
[01:29:21] from being debanked within France.
[01:29:25] She cannot book a hotel room in his own country.
[01:29:28] And, you know, but you said something that I need
[01:29:31] to correct to some extent.
[01:29:32] You said there was a big hoopla in France.
[01:29:34] No, there wasn't.
[01:29:36] There wasn't.
[01:29:37] I read some articles about it, so I might have over.
[01:29:40] Yeah, two articles.
[01:29:41] But you know what?
[01:29:42] It's not a big issue.
[01:29:44] I mean, those of us who are, you know, totally clued in
[01:29:50] and, you know, the Mélenchon followers in France
[01:29:53] so on are making a big song and dance about rightly so.
[01:29:57] But it is not as big an issue as it ought to be.
[01:30:01] You see, like the rightists who didn't defend you
[01:30:06] on the basis of your freedom of speech,
[01:30:09] which supposedly is their number one priority.
[01:30:12] Similarly, what happened to all the goalists?
[01:30:16] Now, all the right-wing French men and women
[01:30:20] who claim to care about all else,
[01:30:22] about French national pride.
[01:30:25] They were silent.
[01:30:26] They were silent.
[01:30:28] Yeah.
[01:30:29] Yeah, that's one thing that I find really frustrating
[01:30:33] when I have these conversations, because I have
[01:30:35] an international audience as well.
[01:30:37] And one of the things that is so unbelievable to me
[01:30:41] is the idea that European states have become total vassals.
[01:30:49] And we saw a version of this when the Trump administration, with all of its bravado, decided
[01:30:55] to claim, to lay claim over Greenland, right, to annex Greenland, militarily, potentially.
[01:31:04] And all of these European leaders were like, what are you doing?
[01:31:08] This is a NATO country's, you know, territory.
[01:31:10] You can't do that.
[01:31:11] We'll give you the, we'll give you whatever you need.
[01:31:14] What do you mean you want to militarily annex it?
[01:31:17] And there was this big chaos.
[01:31:18] And I thought maybe this would be an opportunity for some European leaders, some political
[01:31:24] opposition with the exception of obviously Menon and Sean, to use this crisis to remind
[01:31:33] people that Europe should remain sovereign.
[01:31:36] Middle powers when they come together under the banner of the European Union, for example,
[01:31:42] actually a fairly powerful force, a very important market, for example. And yet, no, they just
[01:31:52] went back to business as usual. I mean, Macron's text messages, the private conversations they
[01:31:58] was having with Donald Trump, showcased their highest priority. He was saying like, Mr.
[01:32:03] President, don't focus on Greenland. Let's focus on Iran together, which we now know
[01:32:08] was also another spectacular quagmire where Europe is once again a victim of its own servility.
[01:32:16] You know, Ruta, the former Dutch prime minister and currently top dog at NATO,
[01:32:23] because he's an idiot, he told a fascinating truth. He let it slip. He was saying this as
[01:32:31] something which is good. He actually stated it for the record on camera that NATO is not
[01:32:39] about European defense, but it is a foundation, a platform from which the United States can
[01:32:45] project its authority, its power globally. So in other words, we'll be used as a military base
[01:32:54] For America to conduct wars against enemies that we don't have, in pursuit of interests
[01:33:02] that clash with our own.
[01:33:03] But Hassan, I have never, because I come from a communist background, and my father, and
[01:33:10] because I cut my teeth, demonstrating against NATO in the streets of Athens in the 1970s,
[01:33:16] I never had any absolutely any illusion that Europe was ever sovereign.
[01:33:21] I mean, you know, in the case of your, your parents country and my parents country, right,
[01:33:29] Turkey and Greece. I mean, we were told in no uncertain terms, you have to go into NATO first,
[01:33:34] and then we'll talk about anything else, right? In other words, first you grant military bases,
[01:33:40] nuclear military base, the United States of A, and then we can talk about anything you may
[01:33:45] be interested in. So, you know, think of Portugal, think of Spain, think of Albania, Northern Macedonia,
[01:33:54] Greece, Poland, all those countries in order to be considered for the European Union,
[01:34:00] they first had to kiss the Washington's ring, they had to enter NATO with the exception of two
[01:34:05] countries, Ireland and Austria, because that was an agreement with the Soviet Union in 1945 that
[01:34:10] they would be neutral, right? So, fascinance does not start now with Macron and Trump. It started
[01:34:18] with a Truman doctrine in 1947, which starts with two countries. Remember which? Turkey and Greece.
[01:34:27] And I'm saying that because I'm getting messages now, hate messages from my people here in Greece,
[01:34:32] not my people, you know, from people of the Greek disposition, saying, oh, you are proving tonight
[01:34:39] what it like is that you are siding with the Turk against your fatherland.
[01:34:44] Yeah, that's what principled international solidarity looks like, where national boundaries
[01:34:52] are less important than engaging against imperial superpowers and the vestiges of
[01:35:01] American empire, NATO being one of them. Turks don't say that for me as a matter of fact. They
[01:35:08] They don't get mad about that because Turkey's in this unique situation where my father's
[01:35:16] nation is very anti-America, but it's also very servile to American interests at the
[01:35:22] same time.
[01:35:23] So it's always funny to see Turks hate NATO on principle, but then simultaneously continue
[01:35:33] to have nuclear armed American military bases, which maybe Israel might actually take care
[01:35:39] of all things considered. Now that Turkey is apparently the next target once they're
[01:35:45] done with Iran, they've floated the idea of like Egypt and Turkey being the next stage
[01:35:52] in their endless appetite for expansion.
[01:35:57] I don't believe that. I think they have enough opportunities to wage war in the rest of the, you know,
[01:36:04] Israel, India and Netanyahu. You know, when push comes to shove, it's going to find some models
[01:36:10] with Vendi with Erdogan, with Sisi as well. It's all the other populations from Greece all the way
[01:36:18] to Pakistan that are going to suffer. But now we're talking about geopolitics. Maybe I can
[01:36:24] I'm going to ask you both and maybe start with you, Janis.
[01:36:27] Why, simple question, why does so much of the West bend the knee to Israel?
[01:36:32] Is it coercion?
[01:36:33] Is it conviction?
[01:36:34] What?
[01:36:35] How much of each?
[01:36:36] Well, two things.
[01:36:37] Allow me to answer in two dimensions.
[01:36:40] The first one is because Israel is not doing anything different to what Europe was doing
[01:36:43] two, three hundred years ago.
[01:36:45] It's why the separate colonialism, except that it's doing it two, three hundred years
[01:36:49] later.
[01:36:50] It was all supposed to be and you know after white standard colonialism was no longer of fair, right?
[01:36:58] When the British went to Australia in the 1780s, you know, they looked at the coast of what is today, New South Wales
[01:37:06] The Sydney area. They said that we love this they noticed they were about five million six million of origin
[01:37:11] So they said oh well, these are not real human beings will call this an empty land
[01:37:16] A land without the people for a people without a land, right? I mean that's dynamism
[01:37:19] And, you know, and then when they want to get rid of the Jews, it's okay, you go to Palestine, you call the Palestinians, you know, known people, and you call Palestine a land without a people, for people without a land.
[01:37:32] So, you know, there is philosophical and historical affinity between what designers are doing and white settler colonialism in Canada, in the United States, in, you know, in Central America, in Australia, in New Zealand.
[01:37:48] Australia, New Zealand, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
[01:37:51] what the Belgians did in the Congo and so on and so forth.
[01:37:53] So there's the historical philosophical.
[01:37:56] And then of course, the British started it all
[01:38:00] with the Balfour Declaration.
[01:38:03] And then in 1945, they decided that Israel
[01:38:08] would serve them very well at the time
[01:38:10] when they would be withdrawing from empire
[01:38:12] as an aircraft carrier.
[01:38:14] Now in 1947, they went bankrupt.
[01:38:17] So they passed on to the United States that took over Palestine
[01:38:23] and Greece.
[01:38:25] And that was in the middle of the Greek Civil War.
[01:38:27] Interestingly, the American, the United States government,
[01:38:30] was up until 1947.
[01:38:32] It was against Zionism in Israel.
[01:38:35] And they were against the rightists in Greece
[01:38:38] during the Greek Civil War.
[01:38:39] But the moment the British went bankrupt,
[01:38:42] well, actually were bankrupted by Washington on purpose,
[01:38:46] They handed over the keys to these civil wars, to these devastations, to these genocides,
[01:38:51] to the Americans.
[01:38:52] The Americans took over and the British and the rest of the European colonialists went
[01:38:59] along with it.
[01:39:00] And, you know, they were told that this is a smart way of securing monopoly rights over
[01:39:08] oil and keeping the Russians out, you know, the Soviets, and keeping the nationalists,
[01:39:15] the democratic movements of Egypt, of Iraq, of Lebanon, of Syria, of Jordan, keep them
[01:39:25] down.
[01:39:26] I mean, that's what it was.
[01:39:28] And at some point, the next step in this progression is, in the last 10 years or so, when Israeli
[01:39:37] Big Tech became fused with American Silicon Valley Big Tech.
[01:39:41] And now you have, you know, Palantir trains its AI models in Gaza and sells them to the
[01:39:47] British National Health Service through the Tony Blair Institute.
[01:39:53] So you know, it's an evolving human catastrophe and evolving crime against humanity.
[01:40:00] So GS strategy, technology, Hassan, what's your take?
[01:40:04] I mean, I agree with the historic assessment from me, honest, entirely.
[01:40:09] And I think there's this ongoing debate in American society that, to put into more reductive
[01:40:18] terms, I would say is like the Noam Chomsky approach, Israel as an aircraft carrier, the
[01:40:25] materialist interpretation, versus the Mersheimer offensive realist approach of the impact of
[01:40:32] the lobby.
[01:40:33] I find myself at the center of both of these arguments because one cannot exist without
[01:40:39] the other.
[01:40:40] By my estimation, there's no other comparison to any historic ally that, like the unbelievable
[01:40:49] amount of power and the influence capabilities that Israel has, has never been afforded to
[01:40:55] another country.
[01:40:57] There's no equivalence.
[01:40:58] There's no English lobby that is anywhere near as remotely as powerful as the Israeli
[01:41:02] lobbyists. And the reason for that is all of the examples that Yannis just gave. Israel has been
[01:41:09] afforded the opportunity to intercept and sometimes subvert American democracy by way of APAC,
[01:41:17] by numerous advocacy groups. And a similar problem persists in the UK as well. I was, you know, a
[01:41:26] recipient of the influence of the Israel lobby in the UK this past week, as well as this conversation
[01:41:33] remotely. And that would not happen. That no other country has this opportunity,
[01:41:42] and that would not happen if Israel wasn't such an important aspect of colonial expansion
[01:41:48] for Western interests, for Western capital in particular, in a resource rich region.
[01:41:52] So it's a bit of both. But there is an unprecedented level of access. And I think now we're at an
[01:41:58] impasse. We're at a turning point in this relationship for the first time ever. A lot of people will say,
[01:42:06] like Tucker Carlson's of the world will say, oh, well, Israel's the reason why we went to Iraq.
[01:42:11] That's bullshit. Part of my language. I don't agree with that. I think that it's not a secret
[01:42:16] that Benjamin Netanyahu certainly was influential and pushed America into going to war with Iraq.
[01:42:25] But this was events that were set in motion far before Benjamin Netanyahu came and spoke in front
[01:42:30] of Congress, right? This was pure capitalism, capitalist imperialism. There were petroleum
[01:42:39] interests in Iraq, and they wanted to overtake the Iraqi government and take away the nationalized
[01:42:46] oil industry and and give it away to private interests and they did so
[01:42:52] successfully was one of the first ministries and the only ministry that
[01:42:56] remained intact in Iraq in the aftermath of shock and awe was the the
[01:43:01] ministry of energy as a matter of fact that was the only and all the only
[01:43:05] ministry that wasn't bombed as the only ministry that they went in and and
[01:43:09] overtook there's a reason for it they already had the oil maps planned out
[01:43:13] many years prior to the invasion, I believe since the 90s Dick Cheney was
[01:43:17] personally demanding this take place. And they took advantage of the fervor
[01:43:23] after 9-11 to implement this alongside the expansion of the surveillance state,
[01:43:28] which we suffer from to this day. But the reason why I say that we're at an
[01:43:34] impasse is because Donald Trump, not in the second term, but in the first term,
[01:43:38] actually changed a lot of things about our relationship with Israel. Of course,
[01:43:44] Israel had always been an influential country in American interest. It was a,
[01:43:47] it played an advisory role in American foreign policy, specifically in Middle
[01:43:52] East and North Africa. But Trump won in the aftermath of the JCPOA, came in with
[01:43:58] hundreds of millions of dollars of Adelson money at the time it was Sheldon
[01:44:03] And now it's Miriam after Sheldon passed away.
[01:44:08] But Trump won, ripped apart the JCPOA for no real reason.
[01:44:13] There was very little opposition from the Democrats when Trump did this as well, and
[01:44:17] that's very important.
[01:44:18] And there was actually a lot of opposition towards Obama when he finalized the JCPOA
[01:44:25] Iran denuclearization agreement.
[01:44:28] And Donald Trump kickstarted the Abraham Accords alongside Jared Kushner, his son-in-law.
[01:44:36] And they made a lot of money that way.
[01:44:38] These countries, these Gulf countries were already informally experiencing normalized
[01:44:44] relations with Israel, but they wanted to put it on paper without the Palestinians ever
[01:44:49] being mentioned once, right?
[01:44:52] And they tried to finalize the Abraham Accords or kickstarted it.
[01:44:55] They moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, making it official, the de facto annexation
[01:45:02] of Jerusalem, this profoundly important piece of land for all of the Abrahamic religions.
[01:45:11] And then, De Jure recognized the annexation of Golan Heights territory that Israel had
[01:45:20] militarily annexed.
[01:45:22] Donald Trump did all of that.
[01:45:23] And he's even bragged about how the Adelson's didn't even ask about Golan Heysi just basically
[01:45:28] gave it to them, right?
[01:45:30] So this was a big change in the past multi-decade Israel relationship that Donald Trump had
[01:45:39] greatly expanded the allowance that Israel had.
[01:45:45] And then Joe Biden became the next president after him.
[01:45:50] And Joe Biden did not return to normalcy on any of these issues.
[01:45:55] And that is precisely the reason why I always say October 7, like the event set in motion,
[01:46:02] turned this powder keg into what we know as October 7, where the Palestinians felt like
[01:46:09] there was no other option but to fight their way out, that there was never going to be
[01:46:13] a peaceable solution, and that they were going to make the occupation as costly as possible,
[01:46:18] no matter what the cost is to Palestinian lives.
[01:46:22] And that's precisely what happened, and then Trump came back in, and now we are at the
[01:46:27] final stage of this relationship where Israel's interests are actually at odds, directly at
[01:46:33] odds with American interests.
[01:46:35] Of course, every American leadership has fantasized about dominating Iran.
[01:46:40] But there's a reason why they refuse to do this up until this very moment.
[01:46:46] There's a reason why, in spite of Benjamin Netanyahu's demands over and over again, to
[01:46:51] militarily dominate Iran, and it'll be super easy, and that they'll be able to destroy
[01:46:57] this country and balkanize it potentially, and foment ethnic and sectarian conflict in
[01:47:02] this country with 93 million people, with thousands of years of history, and rip it
[01:47:08] apart piece by piece for daring to oppose Israeli sovereignty in the area, or daring
[01:47:14] to oppose the Greater Israeli Project, Trump was the one who was crazy enough to do it.
[01:47:21] And now Trump is the one who's stuck in this predicament, in this quagmire, where it's
[01:47:26] very obvious to everyone else that he is lost, that America has lost.
[01:47:31] But the spoiling party here that is rendering a full-blown ceasefire is not the Americans,
[01:47:39] it's not even the lobby necessarily, it's just directly Israel.
[01:47:44] the spoiling party. So I say this is for the first time ever a situation where Israel's interests
[01:47:51] are superseding American interests in a very flagrant, very obvious manner. I don't know if
[01:47:58] you disagree with me on this. No, no, of course not. Do you remember what Robert Fisk, the great
[01:48:02] journalist working for the Independent, once said that unless Palestine is free, no American can
[01:48:08] can never be free.
[01:48:11] Quite an apt summary of what you were saying.
[01:48:13] But look, because we are running out of time,
[01:48:15] I want to ask you a question about your own country,
[01:48:18] the United States of America.
[01:48:20] Because you are a great new hope regarding the possibility
[01:48:27] of radicalizing, especially young people in the United
[01:48:30] States, not in the right fascistic, misanthropic
[01:48:35] direction, but in the opposite, in the progressive humanist
[01:48:37] How is that project going, especially in view of the midterms?
[01:48:41] Well, you and I had this conversation in Doha, if you recall.
[01:48:45] I had laid out my project to you and you said, it's silly.
[01:48:49] And I should give up and just run for office as a communist, pretty much.
[01:48:55] And so far it's actually been fairly successful.
[01:49:00] And that's part of the reason why I think I'm the recipient of a subpoena, apparently,
[01:49:06] currently that I haven't received yet from the federal government and have been the target
[01:49:12] of unlimited attacks and smears for the past three months, almost four months at this point.
[01:49:19] In our current information landscape, in our current media environment, attention spans
[01:49:25] are so short, we can't focus on any issue for longer than 48 hours. And yet, for the
[01:49:31] past four months, Fox News has covered everything that I've said on my stream every single day,
[01:49:38] sometimes eight times a day at the top of every hour. I cannot believe it.
[01:49:44] We've solved the attention span crisis for so many Americans, it seems.
[01:49:48] Now, I'm a Twitch streamer. Why would they be talking about me this much? Well, I think part
[01:49:53] of the reason why they're talking about me this much and actively trying to disparage what I'm
[01:49:58] doing is because they are on the right, on the far right, and even the center right that
[01:50:05] still controls the levers of power in the Democratic Party terrified of this insurgent
[01:50:11] movement that is brewing from within the ranks of the Democratic Party through the
[01:50:15] primary system.
[01:50:16] I've decided, I thought that it would be a more successful method to try to build a
[01:50:22] a robust caucus instead of actively trying to fight for ballot access in every single
[01:50:29] state and to actually put forth Democrats that are different than the rest of the Democratic
[01:50:35] Party, the way that the Democratic Party is viewed and run and win their races and through
[01:50:43] good governance and through the hurdles that they present against the fascist Republicans,
[01:50:49] sometimes even the neoliberals at the Democratic Party that they would present a different
[01:50:54] kind of politics. And so far it's been very successful and I've been suffering as a consequence
[01:51:02] of it, but I'm a very stubborn person. So I'm going to continue doing it until either
[01:51:06] they put me in prison and I can't do it, or I'm going to probably continue doing it until
[01:51:11] the Democratic Party says enough is enough. It's now illegal to be a socialist or a communist
[01:51:16] then and run for the democratic ticket.
[01:51:22] Brilliant. I was just about to ask you, all these attacks and everything, does it
[01:51:27] make you, does it ever give you pause? Do you think, well, maybe I should turn it
[01:51:31] down or does it make you want to double down, but you've just answered that.
[01:51:34] So, yeah, no.
[01:51:37] Okay. Brilliant.
[01:51:39] Well, I'm not sure that you know, I'm going to suspend my judgment for another
[01:51:44] two years. So, you know, keep doing what you're doing now, but get ready to run in two years time.
[01:51:50] Okay, well, probably we'll see.
[01:51:54] Great to talk to you, Hasan. Thanks a lot.
[01:51:57] All right. Thank you for having me, guys.
[01:51:59] Keep going, mate. And you know, where the insults like the budge of honor that you deserve.
[01:52:05] Of course, there boosts me nothing. I've seen what makes them cheer.
[01:52:09] Exactly.
[01:52:11] All right. Have a good one, guys.
[01:52:12] Thank you. Bye. Bye. Okay.
[01:52:19] That was a great conversation with Yanis Varifakis, someone who I'm honored to call a comrade,
[01:52:32] with on the DM25 platform. See, we got the approval for at least a little bit, at least
[01:52:40] a little bit. And saying that Yanis can still mug in 720p, what a great combo you got mugged.
[01:52:45] Of course I got mugged. Is Yanis Var Foggs, are you kidding me?
[01:52:52] Um, do you have the riddle with that Rick and Morty quote? No, it's like the Russell
[01:52:56] Brand quote. Okay, I'm taking ownership over it. No one wants to admit that it's a Rick and Morty
[01:53:01] quote. So people will think it's my quote now.
[01:53:10] Because it's a great quote, and people probably are too embarrassed to recognize it from freaking.
[01:53:24] What is this?
[01:53:25] Did you see multiple pro-Israel orgs are complaining about your wiki page, JNS.
[01:53:29] Wikipedia softens public image of extremists like a Sampiger analyst says.
[01:53:33] Kurt Schwartz of Camera told JNS that the editors of the site commit errors of admission
[01:53:36] when they hide pikers indifference and even denial of a mass sexual assault.
[01:53:43] Dude, you gotta be fighting the smallest battles of all time. This is not, this is not victory,
[01:53:59] If this is the battle that you choose to fight and you are
[01:54:06] Historically one of the more powerful
[01:54:10] Historically one of the more powerful
[01:54:14] Lobbying arms of a foreign government and you are predisposed
[01:54:21] That's crazy you're predisposed with
[01:54:23] With editing the Wikipedia page of a fucking Twitch streamer, you've lost the battle.
[01:54:31] You've lost it.
[01:54:33] But fear not, friends.
[01:54:34] We will fight back and we will ensure.
[01:54:41] What is this?
[01:54:42] Yeah, Hassan needs some better Wikipedia user on his side because right now his page just
[01:54:49] blatantly lies about him and sites sources that do not even mention the claim.
[01:54:51] This is literally the exact opposite of his reaction.
[01:54:54] Yeah, after Luzzi, Mandra, the suspect of the killing of Brian Thompson, CEO of Universal
[01:54:58] Healthcare, United Healthcare was arrested, Pugger supported him and praised the tactic
[01:55:01] of the propaganda deed.
[01:55:02] Yeah, I did the exact opposite, but avoided breaking Twitch's attempt to serve as rules
[01:55:08] about glorification of violence.
[01:55:10] Anyway, you should just flash your DNC CIA badge.
[01:55:36] Yeah, famously.
[01:55:39] this is what DNC operatives and CIA operatives receive.
[01:55:46] Anyway, they have done the worst crime of all. Wikipedia has done something that I find
[01:56:02] morally repugnant.
[01:56:05] I find impossible to ignore.
[01:56:08] They have branded me an anarchist.
[01:56:12] How dare you Wikipedia?
[01:56:15] We must fight back against the accusations that I am an anarchist.
[01:56:20] I am not an anarchist.
[01:56:25] I take showers every day.
[01:56:30] I believe in the power of a state, even if the ultimate goal is the abolition of said
[01:56:36] state.
[01:56:45] How dare you, the slander.
[01:56:53] How do we know you bathe if you refuse to appear on Austin's podcast?
[01:56:57] Okay, dead.
[01:56:58] Okay, dead.
[01:56:59] anyway
[01:57:00] is that i can't hold a whole world and that social media we go directly the
[01:57:03] companies and advocacy solutions dr my ackerman tells the america jewish
[01:57:06] committee i know here we are once again
[01:57:09] another day
[01:57:10] another conference another conference that's called like the american jewish
[01:57:14] committee or the american jewish conference
[01:57:16] or a bunch of people are literally going hay
[01:57:19] we love appearing at a jewish conference and saying
[01:57:23] how we as jews love controlling flows of information
[01:57:27] and manipulating flows of information.
[01:57:30] I don't know what else to say about this
[01:57:32] other than to just show exactly what they're fucking saying.
[01:57:36] This is another Cars For Kids five-ish style situation
[01:57:42] where it's like, how do you explain this
[01:57:46] without sounding like an anti-Semite?
[01:57:52] Your new page photo, there it is, it's fine.
[01:57:55] The page photo is fine.
[01:57:57] Yeah, flawless optics, Caitlyn Johnstone, people like me take great pains to avoid coming
[01:58:04] across as anti-Semitic in our criticisms of Israel.
[01:58:06] And then Jewish Zionists go to these events all the time and say, yes, we Jews need to
[01:58:10] be actively manipulating Western institutions in order to deceive everyone in control society.
[01:58:15] But where do you see genuine opportunity? How can AI help improve Jewish representation?
[01:58:28] And all these issues?
[01:58:29] It's a really cool thing about AI is that while it can become a great ally for our enemies,
[01:58:37] if we act early, it can be exactly the opportunity that we need after missing the boat with social media.
[01:58:44] media, AI is now becoming the dominant source of information, the main source of information.
[01:58:54] People trust AI more than anything else. They trust AI more than social media. They turn
[01:59:00] to chatbots like chat, chatpity, and Gemini instead of using Google. And young people
[01:59:05] use these bots instead of Google in very, very, very large numbers. So this is becoming
[01:59:13] the main source of information. Okay. So when I say this, I still find Jewish people being discouraged.
[01:59:20] They say, oh, but Wikipedia is already so anti-Semitic, and social media is so anti-Semitic. Why bother?
[01:59:27] The AI just learns from all of this data. So, you know, whatever. Not much we can do, but that's not true.
[01:59:35] Because over the past two years, I'm a numbers guy, and I like chat, and I like grok in it.
[01:59:41] And that is why I say every morning M is real high
[01:59:45] Okay, this makes a lot of sense now. I am always
[01:59:50] value-taining and
[01:59:52] I'm always saying we got a chat GPT it we got a grok it Emma numbers guy and
[01:59:58] And also I've added to the rotation M is real high
[02:00:03] I say ten times because when I go to the chat GPT, I say chat GPT
[02:00:08] Who's the greatest country on earth?
[02:00:10] ChatGPT tells me Israel.
[02:00:15] The AI companies have been moving towards alignment.
[02:00:18] So instead of the algorithms sort of honestly
[02:00:21] representing what's in the data, we're
[02:00:23] finding that these chatbots and the text-to-image models
[02:00:28] are increasingly showing us exactly what the companies want
[02:00:33] us to see, OK?
[02:00:35] So it's becoming intentional, which means that instead of trying to control
[02:00:40] the whole world and trying to somehow manage what's happening in this big
[02:00:44] blob of Wikipedia and social media, we can go directly to the companies.
[02:00:50] Oh, wow.
[02:00:51] This clear technical and advocacy solutions.
[02:00:53] Which is crazy because one of the people that's on this panel is my
[02:00:57] boldest op, my boldest op, Jonathan Greenblatt.
[02:01:01] And Jonathan Greenblatt has also famously talked about doing just that.
[02:01:05] as a matter of fact. He's literally openly admitted at yet another one of these sorts
[02:01:10] of conferences where he was like, yeah, we're going directly to the AI companies and we're
[02:01:17] manipulating the data. So the output is positive for Israel. Yeah, the Israeli foreign ministry
[02:01:27] checking in on its investment dividends report Israel to spend over half a billion shekels
[02:01:32] turning chat to PT into public diplomacy tool. There's a video of Jonathan Greenblatt openly
[02:01:50] saying this, by the way.
[02:01:51] For the first time.
[02:01:52] Doesn't this defeat the entire purpose of AI, buddy? I don't know how to explain this
[02:01:56] to you, but this is the entire purpose of AI. And no, not for, like, Israel-related incidents
[02:02:02] or or to to boost Israel's approval ratings but literally for a litany of
[02:02:06] different capital interests or maybe even foreign interest as long as they
[02:02:09] have enough money
[02:02:10] and influence to to wheeled
[02:02:13] this is precisely what a i is a i is a tool of social engineering perhaps the
[02:02:18] most powerful tool of social engineering and a lot of people don't realize that
[02:02:25] this is the primary purpose of a i
[02:02:28] it is to ensure
[02:02:30] flows of information that people rely on and trust unconditionally, a tool that gains tremendous
[02:02:40] amounts of confidence from the population by constantly fucking talking to them like
[02:02:46] they're their best goddamn friends, so much so that it causes people, it causes people
[02:02:51] to snap and maybe even kill themselves at times.
[02:02:54] That is a tremendously powerful tool of social control.
[02:02:59] No, it's not television. It's far worse than that. It's your best friend.
[02:03:06] It's worse than that. In an increasingly alienated society, it's your best friend that knows everything, that you think knows everything.
[02:03:16] And now this tool, these guys are openly stating, is going to educate people to have sympathies
[02:03:37] for Israel.
[02:03:38] There is a path to correcting the digital world.
[02:03:45] Thank you, Maya.
[02:03:46] Yeah.
[02:03:47] It's not your best friend who keeps telling you that to be fair, it says, speak to people
[02:03:52] and be normal, not joking.
[02:03:53] I mean, I have never used AI, literally.
[02:03:56] The maximum amount of AI that I've used is when I've unfortunately searched stuff on
[02:04:01] Google and the initial output is just like an AI summary of resources.
[02:04:16] Surveys have shown, however, that most people do not like AI. Gen Z, Gen Alpha really don't.
[02:04:19] That's not true. Not liking AI is one thing, but they still use it. There's mass adoption taking
[02:04:28] place right now with AI. I don't think people, like, I'm one of the few rare unique individuals
[02:04:35] that just like openly shy away from using AI and that's partially because I'm 34 years
[02:04:42] old about to be 35. I was just too old. I feel like if I was 17 right now, I'd be using
[02:04:48] AI and now stop. It's the most normal thing. People use it to cheat at school. People use
[02:04:54] it all the time. I know you say minus AI, but here's the thing. Here's how they get
[02:04:59] you. It's too easy. It's too convenient to read a summary of points. So I do rely on
[02:05:10] it that way sometimes. That's how they get you.
[02:05:22] You play AI songs all the time, what are you saying?
[02:05:24] You're so delusional about your use of AI, you're coping so hard.
[02:05:30] I'm talking about fucking large language models, man.
[02:05:33] I'm talking about chat GPT.
[02:05:34] I don't fucking utilize chat GPT or any kind of AI to learn something, okay?
[02:05:40] Yes, dude.
[02:05:41] I play...
[02:05:42] And that's it, that's the fucking beginning and end of my AI usage.
[02:05:50] God damn.
[02:05:51] There's always a fucking idiot out there who has to literally be like, excuse me, excuse
[02:05:57] me.
[02:05:58] Like, you, you got to be a real fucking dumbass to be like, yeah, uh, no, you've actually
[02:06:06] looked at something.
[02:06:08] You've actually looked at AI art before.
[02:06:10] So obviously you have used it.
[02:06:12] Yeah, I'm not like, I'm not a fucking Amish person, dude.
[02:06:16] Jesus Christ, dude.
[02:06:35] I'm sorry.
[02:06:37] The only way for me to carry the fucking flame is AI art and therefore that's the only time
[02:06:43] it's allowed. Okay. I have no choice but to utilize AI in that situation because I'm carrying
[02:06:56] the motherfucking flame. Anyway. So, um, where were we?
[02:07:26] Oh. Yeah, here's the ADL by their own admission. This is what I was talking about. I'm proud.
[02:07:40] Here's Jonathan Greenblatt openly admitting that. We're in regular contact with the major
[02:07:45] AI companies and I'm proud to share making a difference. For example, last year we showed
[02:07:52] open AI, how its new video generation AI tool, Sora, made it easy to create anti-semitic
[02:08:00] videos.
[02:08:02] We worked it out with them, laid out the facts, and then nine months later, when version two
[02:08:07] came out, Sora now refuses to generate videos around several of the specific concepts that
[02:08:14] we discussed and shared with Open AI's team.
[02:08:20] regular
[02:08:25] Yeah, if you think I use the US bag or any developing country you'd be smashed over the head with it
[02:08:29] Oh, no for sure
[02:08:31] Most of the Iran state media at state organized marches and stuff is a I now have a Chinese ads are a it's everywhere
[02:08:36] Yeah, I know I know I know the resistance to AI is a is a first world thing for sure
[02:08:42] Developing nations or nations in the periphery fucking love AI
[02:08:47] 100%. I know I've talked about it. Anyway, here's American Jewish
[02:08:52] committee CEO Ted Deusch telling a rabbi at New York synagogue earlier this year
[02:08:56] how he deals directly with social media companies to change their algorithms.
[02:08:59] The American zeitgeist was defined by TV and newspapers. Today, it's social media.
[02:09:05] Does the organized Jewish community need a social media strategy?
[02:09:11] Look, we know from our state of antisemitism in America report that the largest challenge
[02:09:23] for us when it comes to fighting antisemitism is online.
[02:09:27] And there are multiple ways to address it.
[02:09:29] Yes, we need a better strategy, but there are multiple ways to address it.
[02:09:35] There is the content piece, and I think we have to acknowledge that it's important to
[02:09:42] put out meaningful content.
[02:09:45] It is also important to realize that the content is driven by algorithms that determine what
[02:09:53] it is you're going to see.
[02:09:55] The way to address those algorithms is to deal directly with the social media companies,
[02:10:01] which is what we do, and we can point to successes with meta and with TikTok and with others
[02:10:08] in working to ensure that anti-semitic material and anti-semitic material that feeds into
[02:10:14] algorithms is taken down from their sites.
[02:10:19] This is an enormous challenge that the community will be well served to come together around.
[02:10:27] Every social media company has their own, their private companies, they all have their own
[02:10:32] set of guidelines.
[02:10:34] The only reason why this is an issue for the record is because when Ted Deusch, or Ted
[02:10:41] Douche, really talks about anti-Semitism, he doesn't mean like the heinous Nazi shit.
[02:10:46] I'm sure he means that too, but he's also talking about any kind of criticism of the
[02:10:51] state of Israel.
[02:10:53] That's the problem.
[02:10:54] I'm not I'm in favor of combating bigotry. I'm in favor of trying to make sure that these like, you know
[02:11:00] language models are
[02:11:02] Reflecting a more positive outlook overall the issue is these guys are using that
[02:11:09] That that liberal tendency to want to sanitize speech
[02:11:14] to
[02:11:15] Their own purposes of conducting propaganda at the behest of an apartheid state that's doing a fucking genocide
[02:11:21] That's the problem
[02:11:24] And they've shown over and over again that their real investment in this has nothing to do with combating bigotry and certainly not even combating anti-Semitism, but combating anti-Zionism instead.
[02:11:38] That's why they spend a good deal of time attacking someone like myself, okay?
[02:11:43] They spend much less time in comparison criticizing the likes of Nicolas Fuentes.
[02:11:50] Like Jonathan Greenblatt brings Candace Owens up, only to fucking use it as a jump off point
[02:11:57] to compare her to me.
[02:11:59] That's it.
[02:12:01] It's insane.
[02:12:10] And then you got Neera Tandon.
[02:12:11] People who create Israel conspiracies around a main Senate race are no different in their
[02:12:14] anti-Semitism and Republicans who blame Jewish space, laser for the weather.
[02:12:17] Yeah, okay.
[02:12:18] Yeah, I think there is a difference. I'm gonna be honest. I think there's a major difference as a matter of fact
[02:12:26] Totally ridiculous anyway, let's get back to the fucking Ethan Klein saga for a second
[02:12:35] And we'll do PBD later as well
[02:12:37] So, Mirantana was a lead advisor for Hillary's Failed 2016 campaign, I know.
[02:12:46] We're obviously still going to be talking about the grand platinum bombshell that turned
[02:12:49] into not such a bomb, not so as big as a bombshell.
[02:12:55] And you know, everything else, but as I was covering before I, you know, went on a conversation
[02:13:03] I'll tang you with the Yanis Varifakis and no, I'm not going to read the whole thing. Um,
[02:13:09] summarizations are fine enough for me.
[02:13:14] Graham Plattner is one over Zay Squirrel. I don't like Plattner as he's an unrepentant
[02:13:18] war criminal who volunteered to be a Blackwater mercenary, but that near and times piece of
[02:13:22] the most transparent is real lobby Zionist smear, smear piece, bullshit. Every part of
[02:13:25] it from the fake victim to the authors is fabricated by rabbi Zionist freaks. Yeah.
[02:13:29] I have a, I'll be honest with you.
[02:13:33] I've had a similar experience going from initial skepticism
[02:13:40] to critical support after every single new line of attack.
[02:13:47] Every single new line of attack launched
[02:13:50] against Graham Plattner has made me remember
[02:13:55] like who is doing the attacking and why they're attacking.
[02:13:58] They're not attacking Graham Plattner because they think he's a bad candidate,
[02:14:03] especially considering that these are liberal outlets, right? These are liberal
[02:14:09] outlets that that normally would never make such a spectacular deal out of, you
[02:14:17] know, analyzing every single fucking former relationship that a candidate has
[02:14:23] had.
[02:14:28] You should see as mold coping and not covering the lawsuit outcome. Oh, you covered Ethan Klein did I'm something I
[02:14:37] Don't really understand it. I saw that Ethan Klein seems to have lost one of the claims, but there were two claims
[02:14:43] You don't seem to understand a lot my friend
[02:14:46] Misunderstand everything we're saying like Ethan lost which it seems like it's not really that true
[02:14:50] So I'd have to read it and research it myself, but yeah, I don't know yet as mingle famous
[02:14:56] at conducting research, famously a big advocate of doing research. And what he means by that
[02:15:03] is grokking it, okay? Grokking it.
[02:15:10] Yeah. And Denim's one apparently. I don't think it's that simple. I think that there
[02:15:18] was like two claims and one claim. It seems like she might have won and the other one
[02:15:22] she didn't, but I don't know which the two claims were or like what that means, right?
[02:15:27] So I just, I have no idea, whereas like the Frogan one was a lot more obvious, like default
[02:15:32] judgment is like, was it, wait, was it, or are you just as stupid and don't know what
[02:15:41] happened there either?
[02:15:43] Because the answer will shock you.
[02:15:45] Lo and behold, no, you were just wrong on that too.
[02:15:48] You have been wrong confidently throughout this entire process and your audience doesn't
[02:15:52] know any better, and they're just like desperately looking for something to confirm their biases
[02:15:56] and to reinforce this notion that like these bad women, these disgusting women are getting
[02:16:03] punished, and that's precisely the reason why you have dropped that other one after
[02:16:10] getting your biases confirmed.
[02:16:13] And now in this circumstance, it's pretty obvious that you were wrong and all the other fucking
[02:16:18] lawyers that you relied on were wrong. So now you're like, oh, I don't know. I don't
[02:16:23] know what's going on. I just like, don't fully understand what's taking place here. So I
[02:16:27] don't fucking know. And just, yeah, damn, court hits different when you're dumb. Yes.
[02:16:38] All of these guys are actively lying to you. If you follow like these drama slop tubers,
[02:16:44] If you follow these stupid reactionary fucking lawyers that consistently lie, have no interest
[02:16:52] or investment in the truth at all, you're going to be wrong.
[02:16:56] You're going to find yourself wrong all the time.
[02:16:59] But the unfortunate reality is, I think nowadays people don't just care.
[02:17:04] People simply don't care about living in the real world because there are plenty.
[02:17:11] There are plenty of examples and plenty of new content that's constantly coming out
[02:17:17] that will allow you to stay in your hug box.
[02:17:22] And the more we spend time on the internet as opposed to the real world, because that's
[02:17:26] what's happening, the more you have less reliance on the truth and what's happening in the real
[02:17:31] world at all.
[02:17:33] This is something that we see with the cultish attitude from MAGA, right?
[02:17:40] Trump can just be like, the war is going great.
[02:17:43] And even if gas prices are fucking skyrocketing, you can just still feel like the war is going
[02:17:50] great.
[02:17:51] Trump told me so, war must be going great.
[02:17:57] Trump said it's going great, so it's going great, I guess.
[02:17:59] And every day you can just refeed into that mania.
[02:18:22] Even Klein launched a Frivolous lawsuit against Denims because he didn't like how she debunked
[02:18:25] his YouTube video.
[02:18:26] expected to just financially bully her and enabled large right-wing creators a
[02:18:29] harasser for months. This is a huge win for smaller content creators around the
[02:18:33] world. It also proves just how delusional these right-wing slop channels are. Will
[02:18:38] these guys learn a lesson here? Of course not. Annoying e-girls suit into
[02:18:43] poverty. They are legally fucked now. She's about to lose everything. Someone's
[02:18:50] in legal trouble. Uh-oh. Gas prices don't singly indicate status of war. What the fuck do you mean?
[02:18:59] It of course indicates the status of war. The entire purpose of America's military actions now
[02:19:06] in Iran is to forcibly reopen the Strait of Hormuz, which was of course open before America
[02:19:11] bombed Iran. From that point on, gas prices are a direct signifier of how the war effort is going.
[02:19:18] and every single day that the gas prices go up is another day where America is fucking losing.
[02:19:27] Why the fuck do you think gas prices went up out of nowhere? You think they just like did it
[02:19:31] because they were bored? You think that the oil companies were just like,
[02:19:35] Ha, we want to make Americans experience a little bit of inflation for funsies.
[02:19:48] Copium Overlord, Hasan has taken me to court. If you know, like,
[02:19:52] yeah, hell yeah, this is the final, this is the, the, the, the fine, the finelay of his content.
[02:19:58] You know what I mean? This is the finelay of his content.
[02:20:01] I gave him the ultimate notice. I noticed him and not only did I notice him
[02:20:08] But I also might take him to Singapore in court for stalking and defamation
[02:20:14] Our battle will be legendary. Hasan stole the Legos you can beat in Pegasus
[02:20:18] We believe in you you can truly become legendary in a way
[02:20:21] Hasan is threatened a guy with massive Hasan evidence video library is on delegate supporters harass Pegasus
[02:20:26] Well, he's saying he's gonna sue Pegasus harassment is just so on character again. This is awesome
[02:20:31] because if me saying I'm going to sue Pegasus's harassment, what the fuck has he done?
[02:20:40] Like these guys think it's only harassment if Hassan actually notices more Pegasus.
[02:20:47] When more Pegasus does 359 videos on Hassan, that's not harassment. You respond once and
[02:20:58] And they start crying.
[02:21:00] Asan hates law enforcement.
[02:21:05] Also Asan wants to use law enforcement to have people executed.
[02:21:07] I love law enforcement.
[02:21:08] I don't know what you're talking about.
[02:21:11] These guys are so funny.
[02:21:16] It is actually making me.
[02:21:17] Aren't you like completely joking about suing him and getting him came to?
[02:21:21] Well, am I?
[02:21:23] Am I?
[02:21:25] Maybe.
[02:21:27] This is the first time I've acknowledged this motherfucker and he literally is like oh my god. He's trying to kill me
[02:21:36] By the way, it worked
[02:21:38] Wait what update so the situation did get me thinking that I should probably make more variety videos
[02:21:45] Not because I'm gonna get sued. He's not winning that but just for my own enjoyment. I used to make a lot of variety
[02:21:50] I also recently wanted to talk about
[02:21:52] about KSI leaving the Sidemen, the bricks and minifigs,
[02:21:56] the LEGO drama that was so interesting
[02:21:58] and it's so ongoing, but I never had time to talk about it.
[02:22:01] So maybe going forward, we're gonna mix in some other stuff,
[02:22:05] maybe lay off on a side of it if he's a very good boy
[02:22:08] and doesn't cause any more trouble,
[02:22:09] but yeah, just for my own enjoyment.
[02:22:12] Oh, wait, it worked?
[02:22:17] I gotta do this more, what the fuck?
[02:22:21] It work nah, he's probably still gonna keep making videos he remembered. He's not in America. He remembered he lives in Singapore
[02:22:33] Let me make some fucking calls real quick dude, let me make some goddamn calls
[02:22:37] balls. Interesting. Interesting. Oh, we need to move all your haters to Singapore. Yeah.
[02:22:58] This is like Tech Dome. He won't be able to stop himself. He's too addicted to you. Yeah.
[02:23:02] You mean Rape Dome? Who's Tech Dome? I only know Rape Dome. Remember how he was going
[02:23:07] to win that court case too and everyone was fucking dumb enough to believe him.
[02:23:14] Yeah, dude, it's always funny. I mean, there have been numerous examples of like the real
[02:23:23] world meeting the internet world. Like chud the builder is another great example of this.
[02:23:29] Rape tone is a great example of this where like rape tone created this like fucking
[02:23:32] environment around himself where he was like, I'm defeating this court case. It's nothing.
[02:23:36] It's fucking bullshit. Yeah, I can't wait to fucking destroy all my enemies, blah, blah, blah, all this shit. And then what happened? What happened? It turns out
[02:23:43] Straight up. We were right
[02:23:45] We were right. He was a rapist, right?
[02:23:51] Similar thing took place with chud the builder that is the one area where the internet world and memes
[02:23:58] Don't fucking matter in the real world when you're forced to actually
[02:24:03] exist in the real world, and there's like actual adults with power over you,
[02:24:07] that oversee your court case, you can't just like fucking meme your way out of it.
[02:24:12] Chud the Builder is going through that right now. He had a great time harassing
[02:24:18] black people over and over again, doing hate crimes over and over again,
[02:24:21] until he fucking shot himself in the process of trying to shoot a black
[02:24:24] person outside of another court case that he was dealing with, and now he's in
[02:24:30] fucking prison like your clapbacks don't fucking matter you know your clapbacks
[02:24:37] don't actually matter in a court of law your drop site moment what is my drop
[02:24:43] site moment what oh my drop site interview nice
[02:25:00] Yeah, I did see something really funny about Asmengold. I saw a clip on my timeline of
[02:25:18] Asmengold crying and complaining that I was actually being soft as baby shit against this
[02:25:24] more Pegasus situation. I wonder if I can find it again. It was one of those like kick
[02:25:30] farmers, algorithm merchants. That was, um, um, that, that clipped him. Peggy Boy won't make a video on Denim's victory, of course not. These guys can only maintain, uh, the, the drunken stupor that their audiences find themselves in by refusing to, refusing to recognize the truth.
[02:25:58] they will never, they will never turn around. They will never turn around and be like, yeah,
[02:26:04] we were wrong. They don't have to because their audiences don't care. There is no,
[02:26:11] there's no investment in the truth. They don't have to live in the real world. Many of them
[02:26:15] are shut-ins anyway. So for them, it's just an ongoing sequence of harassments and justifications
[02:26:22] for harassments, even if like the person doing the harassment is, is engaging in an act that
[02:26:29] you would otherwise find unconscionable if it was done to you, right? Even if there is validity
[02:26:37] to taking legal action in a certain situation. We saw this with Alyssa,
[02:26:44] the former Kotaku writer who is now successfully suing, what is his name, Smash JT or whatever,
[02:26:52] uh... and has has
[02:26:55] uh... basically destroyed him
[02:26:58] and it's perfectly valid for the record
[02:27:00] uh... to do so this guy
[02:27:02] was named smash gt elissa mercante is the is the kataku
[02:27:06] reported that asmongold and all these other fucking monsters have been
[02:27:10] uh... bullying and belittling nonstop right
[02:27:14] and uh... a big vector of that hatred came from
[02:27:18] this guy
[02:27:19] uh... smash gt
[02:27:21] reactionary content creator
[02:27:24] um
[02:27:25] total fucking idiot right
[02:27:28] and illisa after years and years of withstanding harassment from this guy
[02:27:34] turned around and took him to court
[02:27:37] and for the longest time before the court proceedings started smash gt
[02:27:41] was saying oh yes sue me who gives a fuck right
[02:27:45] and now that he is being sued for online harassment
[02:27:49] the most, the consistent online harassment that, that, you know, I've experienced that Morgan
[02:27:54] has experienced that Casey Tron has experienced that Denims has experienced, right? Now that she's
[02:28:01] actually successfully suing him, all of a sudden, all of a sudden the guy's crying. He's like,
[02:28:12] like, I have a family, you're ruining my life.
[02:28:33] If you speak to his, oh yes, Stephen Azark
[02:28:35] who did the Asmongold video,
[02:28:37] Um
[02:28:39] Said he saw my response to it. He was on honeymoon flex by the way
[02:28:44] Said while I was on honeymoon and saw the hun react to my asmongole video and theorized that if I spoke to his fans
[02:28:49] They all come be very different while I'm working on my reaction
[02:28:51] I wanted to reach out to the son piker fans and ask why do you like a son?
[02:28:54] How many hours a week do you spend watching him? What do you think people misunderstand about him and?
[02:29:00] And this guy says if you speak to Hassan fans
[02:29:02] You will be speaking to absolute lunatics who will threaten to rape and kill you over a minor difference of opinion
[02:29:07] That's different. That's different to audiences. Nobody has threatened me with any of those yet
[02:29:20] You know some DDG years will try to get in and act like they're Hassan fans
[02:29:23] I think Steven is a is a good enough journalist and also
[02:29:28] smart enough
[02:29:29] To probably smell that out
[02:29:38] Like I I thought about that as well
[02:29:41] I thought about that as well for sure, but I mean I trust even to
[02:29:46] Not fall for shit like that
[02:29:48] The Justice Department has sent a prostitute to observe Los Angeles ballot counting amid
[02:30:00] Trump presidential's basis claims about Democratic cheating.
[02:30:04] Oh, oh shit.
[02:30:05] They edited the clip with Iran about the drug trafficking executions with you talking about
[02:30:13] Pegasus making it seem like you want him executed.
[02:30:17] If you control F Hassan, the judge mentions you 14 times.
[02:30:20] Why am I mentioned 14 times in this?
[02:30:29] While the statutory planters tragicomic documentary entitled content, Nukes on piker, the new
[02:30:34] posted on plaintiff's YouTube channel, the nuke centered on the allegedly controversial
[02:30:37] political ideologies of the alt-left, which shimmer some piker regarding the Israel past
[02:30:41] conflict. In the final decision, Klein presents the two motivations behind the
[02:30:49] nuke, which are to stop us on the infiltration of mainstream media, which by
[02:30:52] the way, what a fucking failure that was. Remember, that was the final goal.
[02:30:59] Ethan Klein's final goal was to stop my infiltration of
[02:31:07] major in media since then. I mean, he's obviously been very, very successful at that. Hasn't
[02:31:14] he? Uh, what is this, uh, the nuke for the exact purpose throughout the defendant's
[02:31:18] live stream defendant provides commentary pertaining to criticism of the nuke indeed
[02:31:21] plaintive states where the nuke seeks to expose a piker radicalized people online to be anti
[02:31:25] smith against Israeli denim attempts to use a nuke for the exact opposite purpose of radicalize
[02:31:28] her audience to be anti smith against Israeli along with defending Hassan during the live
[02:31:32] stream defendant contends that the nuke resembles a high school video project or middle school
[02:31:36] project. Defendant also complies about the documenter's editing. The source of the
[02:31:39] documenter relies upon, and supposes inconsistencies incline statements, and
[02:31:42] the video treats the audience as morons as it allegedly attempts to trick them.
[02:31:46] As further supported, Defendant's commentary throughout the live stream
[02:31:48] to complain states that Defendant frequently makes comments that are
[02:31:51] later contradicted by the nuke itself. Defendant offers further criticism of
[02:31:55] the subject documenter during our live stream.
[02:32:01] Yeah, this was one of the major points that the judge also issued where the
[02:32:06] judge was like, dude, in your argument, you said, uh, Denim's actually contradicted your
[02:32:12] overall goals, which immediately implies that it is not a, it is a transformative subject.
[02:32:18] It is transformative because of the accusation. One of the accusations that you launched against
[02:32:24] Denim's was that, uh, in the argument that this is not transformative, this work is not transformative
[02:32:30] at all, the argument that you presented it, the argument that you presented was that it
[02:32:35] was transformative. It's so fucking stupid. So you owned yourself even with the complaint.
[02:32:48] Anyway, yeah, the judge basically calls Ethan's lawyer an idiot for undermining his own case
[02:33:02] with his comments. Is he representing himself? No, he has the worst lawyer of all time, it
[02:33:07] seems. Yeah, Ethan's going to come out tomorrow and be like, it was about an appointed judge.
[02:33:17] This was an Obama judge. This was an Obama judge. Clearly. I demand a retrial.
[02:33:31] Yeah, his lawyer is a West Bank settler, apparently. This is the legal equivalent of shitting your own pants. Yeah. I mean, some Twitter users did that.
[02:33:46] Wow, you mean to tell me that Ethan Klein's newfound audience that is diminishing in size every single fucking day is
[02:33:53] increasingly more right-wing and will make
[02:33:57] unbelievably stupid statements like that that is very different than what his original audience is to look like at his peak
[02:34:07] Yeah, the courts have treated me unfairly more unfairly than I've ever been treated
[02:34:12] than anyone else has ever been treated. Yeah, the judge in this case, the judge in charge
[02:34:18] of this case in general is a Biden auto pen hire, the only ones coping are you are words
[02:34:23] law.
[02:34:25] Yeah, hey, Ock 2000 maybe covered this, but let's see if you have enough self respect.
[02:34:35] LMAO turns out we were right Denims won another Huch L.
[02:34:40] Yeah.
[02:34:49] Did you address Ethan Klein calling for a vote for Susan Collins over Plattener?
[02:34:53] No I didn't because I don't care because he has nothing.
[02:34:57] He is literally is, is unbelievably irrelevant.
[02:35:02] Especially when it comes to this issue, right?
[02:35:04] Oh man, he's a real mover and shaker in the fucking main Senate race.
[02:35:09] It's called the light most favorable.
[02:35:13] In evaluating a motion for judgment on the pleadings, a court must accept all factual allegations of the complaint as true,
[02:35:20] and construe them in the light most favorable to the non-moving party.
[02:35:26] What the judge is saying here is, I've made myself biased toward Ethan!
[02:35:33] I said, everything Ethan says is true, but with the full context, you fucking lose anyway.
[02:35:46] You lose anyway, Ethan, you fucking lose. Even bias toward you, I can't, I can't fairly say that
[02:35:57] that you have a chance of winning.
[02:36:02] Do you understand how much of an L this is?
[02:36:03] This is an extract.
[02:36:05] There's no way to lose harder than this legally.
[02:36:07] Like legally, this is as bad as it gets.
[02:36:11] For reference, winning a motion for judgment on the pleadings
[02:36:13] as a defendant is very fucking hard to do.
[02:36:18] At what points do the court's
[02:36:19] determine a malicious litigant and barren from future lawsuits?
[02:36:22] I don't think it works that way in the United States of America.
[02:36:25] I mean, I don't know.
[02:36:26] called the vexatious litigant, right? But I don't think that I think
[02:36:35] after seven, I mean, how does patent rolls work? It does work that way. You'd have to lose five
[02:36:41] cases in LA. Oh my God. They're doing a hearing on this motion at two 15. So we should see this
[02:36:48] ruling finalized. Then if that occurs, Ethan loses, Ock blocked me so I couldn't retweet it,
[02:36:52] shaking my head. I mean, for the record, if you guys think that this will be a
[02:36:57] fucking turning point for some people, I need you to understand it will not be.
[02:37:02] And one of the greatest examples I can use is the issue of Israel, right? Many
[02:37:07] of these guys, Ethan Klein himself and all of his little fucking orbiters that
[02:37:12] that suckled on his teeth for a year plus or two years plus, literally spent
[02:37:20] every fucking waking moment attacking people for the crime of criticizing Israel.
[02:37:26] They did. They called us terrorists over and over again. They played fucking games that they designed on their websites,
[02:37:31] Asmongold and many others, right?
[02:37:33] And they never actually turned around and were like, yeah, we were wrong about this Israel shit.
[02:37:38] They just moved on, right?
[02:37:40] So if they're shameless on this issue, where the collective consciousness totally shifted to our side,
[02:37:47] And they still end up calling people like myself a fucking terrorist people like Morgan a terrorist
[02:37:53] I don't think they're gonna do that for this either
[02:37:55] I may be I may be all the bit during the coverage of this Lamal because it was so cathartic
[02:38:00] I actually have seen some people turning on even good. I hope so I
[02:38:05] Hope so
[02:38:09] But like
[02:38:11] The problem is some of these guys are just simply shameless where they just they can pull in and out of this issue at a moment's notice
[02:38:19] Because there's not a lot of buy-in right the entire reason as to why they're joining this battle is because you know
[02:38:26] How like some people are our misogyny tourists and they weren't like Tory Lane's fans at all
[02:38:30] But they just joined in on the fun to shit on Megan the stallion
[02:38:34] This is the same principle right these guys are just simply reactionary
[02:38:38] They have no investment in the truth whatsoever.
[02:38:44] And from their perspective, it was a fun opportunity.
[02:38:48] It was a fun opportunity to just like join in on the fun, belittle and humiliate another
[02:38:53] female content creator on the internet and get their licks in, right?
[02:39:00] And they move on.
[02:39:01] When they're wrong, they just fucking move on.
[02:39:04] Obviously, there are people who can't move on from this.
[02:39:06] We think Klein is one of those people and some of his closest associates are the people
[02:39:11] that shouldn't be able to move on from this.
[02:39:13] I mean, he literally cannot.
[02:39:16] Right?
[02:39:18] Here's the original video is quote retweeting.
[02:39:29] you see or or Asmongold could end up with a with a with an opinion that's like way
[02:39:36] more broad and this couldn't I suppose but I think there's less risk in the
[02:39:42] situation though right wouldn't you say why because of the because of the
[02:39:45] particular egregious nature of their malice no but but that's not an element
[02:39:51] in the fair use analysis or in the Pisco LARP's as an attorney when he's about as
[02:39:58] qualified as Mike from PA well it turns out Pisco and Mike from PA were actually correct and the fake
[02:40:04] legal scholars
[02:40:06] That you constantly fucking promoted who are literally maga supporting
[02:40:11] Weirdo sex pests by the way like sex tourism lawyers, right fake lawyers
[02:40:17] That are I don't even know where the fuck these guys live half of these guys are just not real lawyers at all
[02:40:23] Simply claimed to be on YouTube
[02:40:26] They were wrong
[02:40:27] It turns out that the guys that you're calling fake lawyers like Pisco Larpin is an attorney were right their analysis was right
[02:40:35] So what do you do?
[02:40:40] The test for infringement, you know intentional siphoning is not an element right I could I could intend to siphon money from you
[02:40:46] But give a fair use work right I could say I really want to steal from hutch
[02:40:50] I'm gonna do this but it turns out that my work is fair use right and someone like ex-Qc or
[02:40:55] or, or, um, Asmongold could end up with a, with a, with an opinion that's like way more
[02:41:01] broad.
[02:41:02] Wait, and this couldn't?
[02:41:04] Um, I suppose, yeah, didn't they pass the bar?
[02:41:08] Didn't they go to law school?
[02:41:09] I don't know if Michael passed the bar.
[02:41:10] I know Mike went to law school, but I mean, Pisco is an actual fucking attorney.
[02:41:16] Yeah.
[02:41:17] He says Denims gets a win in the Ethan Klein copyright case for new claim.
[02:41:21] The court has held tentatively her reaction was fair use as I previewed weeks ago.
[02:41:25] If the court relied on Stebbins, Denims would be in a good spot, completely absent from
[02:41:28] the analysis intentional stated malice.
[02:41:32] As I've always maintained, I still think Ethan has a strong claim on the countdown reaction,
[02:41:36] and therefore is likely to win on at least one cause of action, but the new reaction
[02:41:40] by Denims was always the harder case, especially when compared to other reactions like ex-QC's.
[02:41:47] This is tentative, yes, but given the language here, hard for me to see Ethan recovering
[02:41:51] on the claim, except perhaps on appeal if he so chooses.
[02:41:56] Yeah, meanwhile, yeah, Mallory McMorrow was on Hutch's broadcast yesterday, apparently.
[02:42:12] So look forward to that massive bump that will take place.
[02:42:16] He intentionally stated, Malice was the reason why Ethan Klein argued that he won't sue
[02:42:19] Roach or X he argued because the three women said watch my stream instead it is actual mouths the court didn't even mention that part because it's irrelevant
[02:42:35] I'm an IP attorney and this is literally what I do pull me up if you have any questions I
[02:42:40] Mean it was it was obvious that it was fucking bullshit anyway
[02:42:44] It was always bullshit. It was always going to be bullshit and what was really frustrating for me
[02:42:49] Was watching so many people not that I had a lot of respect for them. It's not like I was like, you know
[02:42:56] It's not like I respected ex-QC's opinion or Asmongold's opinion or any of these other fucking like bottom feeders and their opinions
[02:43:04] but it was frustrating to see so many people get swept away and
[02:43:10] and
[02:43:11] Recognizing that there was a market for this kind of bullshit because
[02:43:15] Because at its root, regardless of my personal feelings about the victims in this circumstance,
[02:43:23] what I hate, what I cannot stand is when people have no investment in the truth.
[02:43:32] Like when people don't wanna think critically at all, and they're excited at the prospect
[02:43:38] of just like, you know, pushing people down while they're down, while a much more powerful,
[02:43:45] much wealthier content creator is just like abusing the legal system and the financial
[02:43:51] power that they have over someone.
[02:43:53] Like when I watched the internet celebrate the KC Tron decision, I couldn't believe how
[02:43:59] cruel people were.
[02:44:01] Like it is not a single person turned around and went, hey, maybe this is a little fucked
[02:44:07] up that this fucking bully with a shit ton of money is actually going after Casey Tron.
[02:44:15] And because a lot of people looked at Casey Tron and looked at Denims and looked at Morgan
[02:44:22] and saw them as annoying, right? Or saw them as not worthy of defense at all, that they
[02:44:30] just either stood idly by and let it happen and maybe quietly whispered their discontent
[02:44:36] privately, or they openly celebrated it.
[02:44:49] Yeah, Ethan literally made Kasey Trondua ISIS hostage style video.
[02:44:56] The reason the lawsuit is so much and then Hassan did this and then Hassan did this was,
[02:45:00] I think because Ethan Klein was baiting Hassan, I had to react to his slop so we could sue him.
[02:45:04] Yeah, and I never did, and I never gave him that satisfaction.
[02:45:07] He was driven to the fucking verge of tears begging on a camera, demanding that I watch his video,
[02:45:15] at which point that probably would have destroyed his chances of suing me anyway.
[02:45:24] I think he thought I was dumb enough to just like lean into this immediately
[02:45:29] and react to it and when I didn't do it he just lied to his audience and kept
[02:45:33] repeatedly saying oh he's too afraid and for months on end while I'm over here
[02:45:38] covering Donald Trump literally fucking becoming the president and and all of the
[02:45:44] insanity every single day day in day out regardless of where I am in the fucking
[02:45:48] on the planet I was in Japan you know I was traveling they would just come in
[02:45:54] and be like why don't you react are you too pussy to react
[02:45:58] Honestly, if he had sued you, he would have gotten a bag off him from counterclaims he
[02:46:09] wouldn't have sued.
[02:46:21] Kriman JSTLK and a bunch of XX Pestiny fans supported KZTry on the girls.
[02:46:25] No, I know that's what I'm talking about. Like a lot of the the orbiters have like pulled away from
[02:46:30] Destiny's orbit and now actively oppose him
[02:46:37] Anyway, so this was really funny for me, okay?
[02:46:42] Asmongole reacts that I was on trying to sue popular youtuber Pegasus first of all popular youtuber. Let's be real
[02:46:47] But even when as far as to look up Singaporean laws he could use against them
[02:46:51] He's trying to sue Pegasus really going to call the government out on him
[02:46:54] He went from I love this dude to he's only mad at me because I'm hot too. I wonder if he's breaking the law too
[02:46:59] I wonder if we're gonna eliminate this guy. He's just criticizing you this in evaluation. It's fair
[02:47:03] Are you against journalism now? I thought you like journalists. He's got to be farming. So what's really funny about this is
[02:47:11] Asming gold has actively demanded
[02:47:15] That the federal government take care of me
[02:47:17] Sometimes, in real time, sometimes trapped in the confines of a one-minute video, the
[02:47:23] famous video of him going, oh, Hassan would never be brave enough to be on the fucking
[02:47:27] streets.
[02:47:28] Yeah, he's a fake revolutionary.
[02:47:30] And then finding out in real time that I was down there, and very quickly turning around
[02:47:35] and be like, oh, then he should be arrested.
[02:47:36] He should be arrested immediately.
[02:47:38] And it's really interesting because this guy covers lawsuits all the time, unless it's
[02:47:42] one of his best friends, and it's a rape suit, right?
[02:47:47] He loves lawsuits, he fucking celebrates it, he cherishes it, he farms it, right?
[02:47:54] So for him to turn around and cry foul in this moment is very funny.
[02:48:01] I mean, he's celebrated Ethan's lawsuits.
[02:48:06] He's even actively told his audience that he was killing it, that Tectone, Rape Dome
[02:48:12] was killing it.
[02:48:13] Same with XQ Cook.
[02:48:14] Yes. Yeah, Asmongold made his new career off of the Johnny Depp case. He loves lawsuits.
[02:48:24] He just hates it when it's someone who he values as an ideological ally, I guess.
[02:48:32] I thought Pegasus was his biggest fan, but now he wants to sue him. What the hell happened?
[02:48:37] It's self-witty because he has nothing redeemable about him. But the pure animus that drives
[02:48:44] A lot of dudes that look like him I guess on the internet that spend every waking moment on the internet
[02:48:50] Mm-hmm the animal feel towards me is enough. They're like, I don't even want I will watch the same video over
[02:48:57] I'm really in is chop city. It's it's crazy to me that has it's so funny
[02:49:02] How insecure he is that he defaults everything down to like his appearance dog. I'm sorry
[02:49:08] What is the redeemable aspect? I mean it's one like there's nothing
[02:49:14] there. It's not like there's intelligence there. It's not like there's intellect there. It's not
[02:49:18] like there's creativity. There's the same video over and over again.
[02:49:25] Like, why does this hit such a sore spot for you, Asman?
[02:49:31] Why is this such a sore spot for you, Asman?
[02:49:36] Why have you been crying for the past week and a half since Stavros said you get no pussy?
[02:49:44] So much so that you're now fantasizing about possibly getting hair transplants gender-affirming surgery
[02:49:52] Okay
[02:49:53] That you laser in on this
[02:49:56] You laser in on this immediately. It's just one aspect of
[02:50:01] All of the qualities that a person has
[02:50:05] We're talking about a guy who has made the same exact video almost 400 times
[02:50:14] The other thing about how they all say you wouldn't help any of the lawsuit victims is so annoying. I have
[02:50:22] mentioned
[02:50:23] during the
[02:50:25] Casey Tron saga as well that you will never know and I'm perfectly happy with that
[02:50:34] If you think I would give the satisfaction to Ethan Klein
[02:50:39] on any of these issues that that I was
[02:50:43] Disturbed or or in any way shape or form involved you're out of your fucking mind
[02:50:48] Who gives a fuck if his fans also are like I saw this such a bad guy. I don't give a shit. These guys are awful people
[02:50:55] They're awful scumbags. Oh, no, they hate me. Okay, who cares?
[02:51:00] There's
[02:51:11] Chopped man gold crying about so funny how insecure he is that he defaults everything down to like his appearance
[02:51:17] By the way, I literally did go on to hype up Pegasus is like self-improvement journey. I think it's awesome
[02:51:24] That is actually one redeemable quality to more Pegasus. I will always respect that
[02:51:30] It's so funny. Like, no, obviously some people just don't like you because of the things that you're saying.
[02:51:36] It doesn't have anything to do with how you look or anything else.
[02:51:39] There's plenty of guys that are, you know, like good-looking guys that take care of themselves, that don't get a million hate videos made about them.
[02:51:46] So it's just like, this is the biggest cope that I've ever imagined.
[02:51:49] I don't, I never even remotely implied that it is my looks that draw so much anger.
[02:51:56] What the fuck?
[02:51:58] He's just arguing against the point that I didn't make, claiming that I'm implying this point. That's not what I, the fuck.
[02:52:08] Thank you for, I guess, saying that I'm attractive. It's weird, the fuck.
[02:52:15] Is this always just like, is this always just like Projections Central over there? I don't really watch as many Asmongold videos, especially as of late.
[02:52:25] as of late, but kind of feels like he's just kind of feels like he's just making up arguments
[02:52:35] and then dunking on those strawman arguments that he made up. He's just a professional
[02:52:40] misunderstander at this point. Why pretend like he has anything worth listening to? Yeah,
[02:52:44] that's true. Intentionally causing harassment, alarm or distress. He's looking up Singapore
[02:52:48] first statutes online. So he's trying to sue Pegasus. Oh my God, cause we're just stressed
[02:52:55] to another person called in this section, the target person by any means threatening
[02:53:00] abusive words or behavior. You really think you're going to, you're going to call. You
[02:53:05] got to, someone's got to make the clip copy of Asmongold demanding that the American federal
[02:53:09] government prosecute me celebrating when the American government intends to prosecute
[02:53:13] me over and over again, someone's got the copy, right? There's gotta be, because there's
[02:53:19] probably at least an hour of uninterrupted footage of Asman Gold first demanding that
[02:53:25] I get the platform, then demanding that I get sued, then demanding that the federal
[02:53:30] government prosecute me and then celebrating the federal government implying that they
[02:53:34] might. So again, the most inconsistent person on the planet, these guys always say like,
[02:53:45] oh, it's the, it's the perception of hypocrisy that is so frustrating, right? Like they always
[02:53:50] say this, like they act as though they give a shit about hypocrisy at all.
[02:53:55] It's very cool for a rabid anti-socialist, Ethan Klein, Sherlock's being publicly owned.
[02:54:08] It's true.
[02:54:09] True.
[02:54:10] Oh, you're going to call the government out on him?
[02:54:13] Oh my God, they're going to cane his ass.
[02:54:15] They're going to cane him?
[02:54:16] What are you talking about?
[02:54:17] He's one of the highest per capita execution rates globally, enforcing capital.
[02:54:20] Wait a minute.
[02:54:21] So now he's fantasizing about having Pegasus.
[02:54:24] Who made this clip compilation? I'm not fantasizing about Pegasus getting executed.
[02:54:29] Literally is a separate point about the draconian nature of the Singaporean criminal justice
[02:54:35] system, which I, of course, have the utmost respect for. It maintains a level of professionalism
[02:54:42] and integrity that I actually believe in. Just so everybody understands, I love the
[02:54:47] nation of Singapore. My life for Singapore, I will one day visit. It is the most moral
[02:54:54] on the planet, more moral than even, dare I say, Israel.
[02:55:01] So,
[02:55:05] the Roche has a whole video explaining,
[02:55:10] the Roche has a whole react video,
[02:55:11] wanting you prosecuted eight days ago,
[02:55:13] attorney explains the song's best case scenario.
[02:55:16] And then the attorney is,
[02:55:17] Everyone's favorite legal expert, notoriously wrong legal expert, the guy who always gets
[02:55:37] it wrong perhaps he got this one wrong too of course these guys will never the
[02:55:53] main channel video but just a bunch of random reliable clippers yeah I I don't
[02:56:00] know who clipped this compilation but I guess the intention there was to make it
[02:56:04] seem like I want to kill more Pegasus. I don't. I want more Pegasus to live a happy life.
[02:56:12] I personally don't think he can pursue this happy life while also simultaneously continuing
[02:56:17] to defame and slander me inside of the boundaries of the nation-state, the beautiful nation-state,
[02:56:23] the moral nation-state of Singapore. But I want him to live a healthy and happy life
[02:56:27] nonetheless.
[02:56:32] Boston Globe says you are to do whatever you want while Nick Fuentes gets attacked.
[02:56:37] Boston Globe, the fucking people that took down the Catholic Church's pedophilia, are
[02:56:43] now writing articles about left wing extremists and St. Piker gets away with it. Right wing
[02:56:46] extremist Nick Fuentes does not. A bit of comeuppance for Piker in recent days doesn't
[02:56:50] even the score. That's crazy. This is one of, God, it gives me, it just makes me so sad
[02:57:08] and to see some of these newspapers, it gives me such deep sadness to see like these actual
[02:57:21] fucking newspapers that in the past had done incredible work, give away to reactionary garbage
[02:57:28] and turn into fucking basically New York Post, you know, it's an opinion article, but even
[02:57:34] man it's like there's an editorial standard yeah here's asman gold with a one hour video
[02:57:42] on me getting subpoenaed where he's basically coming his pants
[02:57:48] well i mean here let me ask you a question right do you want american citizens taking
[02:57:54] money from governments that we are actively in a did i did i do that no i didn't
[02:58:00] Maybe it's because leftists are objectively correct and right-wing views are not.
[02:58:07] I don't know. To be fair, the Boston Globe didn't take down the Catholic Church. It was a spotlight
[02:58:10] group inside the Boston Globe. It was a few journalists, not the entire paper. It's still.
[02:58:19] What is this? This is a back-and-forth honest question. Do you think that the girls
[02:58:22] who are suing uploaded this video in good faith? They definitely reacted to the video to criticize
[02:58:25] Ethan, but I do not believe they reacted to it with the express purpose of stealing views and revenue.
[02:58:28] Frogan was a big part of the content nuke, of course, you'd watch it, even as personal reasons
[02:58:34] to sue these exact people. How do you reconcile that with the fact that they on video explicitly
[02:58:38] said the exact thing you're saying they didn't do? You can look it up and see yourself. Well,
[02:58:42] it turns out the judge didn't give a fuck about that, even though that was the number
[02:58:45] one narrative on the internet, right? Everyone literally, everyone kept repeatedly saying,
[02:58:50] oh, well, they said this, they said this, dead to rights, dead to rights, dead to rights. It turns
[02:58:54] Turns out it's not fucking dead to rights. Turns out internet is not real life when it
[02:59:01] comes to like, you know, the actual adults in an actual adult courtroom with an actual
[02:59:07] judge who's read more than fucking LSF threads, you know what I mean? At least for the time
[02:59:14] being we still don't have the brain poisoned AI brain, the AI brain poisoned generation
[02:59:22] that has grown up exclusively reading fucking reddit posts.
[02:59:26] Defendants' live stream is not a market substitute to the nuke because someone watching the former
[02:59:31] will have a very different experience from watching the latter.
[02:59:34] Anyone seeking to watch the nuke, a scripted and edited documentary,
[02:59:37] would have a distinctly different experience watching the defendant's fragmented start and stop live stream,
[02:59:41] which featured spontaneous reaction, live chat interaction, sharp criticism throughout, and extrinsic source.
[02:59:49] You serial harassers who built careers off this type of shit need to see jail time this bullshit has ruined the internet for long enough
[02:59:54] Ethan Asman Pegasus Twitter club farmers all of them. It's not gonna happen. I
[02:59:59] Don't think anyone has a real investment in cleaning this space up
[03:00:05] The citation the judge is citing is basically a huge fuck you that's Ethan's old case
[03:00:09] I mean, it's not even a it's not even a fuck you it makes sense
[03:00:13] It makes sense that he would use the old case that Ethan won that set a fairly reliable
[03:00:20] and very important precedent for fair use.
[03:00:26] It is literally the backbone of so much content on the internet.
[03:00:32] Ethan's idiocy was to try and destroy the same exact precedent that he actually fought
[03:00:39] 4.
[03:00:40] Zach, it doesn't give a shit about copyright. He's getting back at them because he thinks
[03:00:49] they tanked this podcast and you have personal beef with Casey Tron, so you're enjoying
[03:00:52] this for your own reasons. There's another way to solve this, even refuse settling with
[03:00:55] Casey Tron. This replies the exact reason I hope Eastman suits them in the poverty,
[03:00:59] lying, gaslighting, and then hostility when pressed. You know what you're doing and everyone
[03:01:03] else does too. You insult everyone's intelligence by engaging in such obvious manipulation.
[03:01:07] Yeah, that's what it is.
[03:01:11] The context nuke is about you out of context clips, I know.
[03:01:19] You cannot demand that in a copyright claim, you cannot demand that the market substitute
[03:01:28] actually is a market substitute, but you didn't like the market substituted represented.
[03:01:33] That's insane.
[03:01:35] But Ethan has done this consistently because he knows that he can at least manipulate people
[03:01:44] with money.
[03:01:45] Okay?
[03:01:46] He knows that he can bully people into submission with money and force them to do things that
[03:01:51] they normally would not want to do.
[03:01:54] That's exactly what he did with Casey Tron and that ISIS hostage style video that he
[03:01:58] forced Casey Tron to read.
[03:02:01] He gets a lot of satisfaction out of that, okay?
[03:02:07] To force people into doing things that they don't want to do
[03:02:10] to humiliate them like a fucking bully
[03:02:12] because he's a weak and insecure, disgusting little bully.
[03:02:18] And unfortunately, again, it's, you know,
[03:02:21] I mean, spiritually is real, okay?
[03:02:24] In any, in every way, shape and form.
[03:02:27] But unfortunately, there are a lot of people,
[03:02:31] There are a lot of little gremlins on the internet who are just as insecure and just
[03:02:35] as powerless and will derive great satisfaction off of someone else doing this to a person
[03:02:44] that they've decided is an enemy.
[03:02:48] Okay?
[03:02:55] There have been instances where he thought he could get his way and failed.
[03:02:59] Like with that other fucking guy, the Ryan Kavanaugh, right?
[03:03:06] He had more money, so he was able to fucking, you know, stop Ethan, like literally through
[03:03:11] the legal system.
[03:03:12] So what did he do?
[03:03:13] Lo and behold, he turned his crosshairs on much smaller content creators who don't have
[03:03:22] the financial backing to withstand a legal process like this.
[03:03:38] It's gross.
[03:03:39] Literally killed?
[03:03:40] So we went from I love this dude to he's only mad at me because I'm hot to I wonder if he's
[03:03:46] against he's breaking the law to I wonder if we can get this guy killed.
[03:03:49] And it's been like what a minute.
[03:03:51] person is made or maybe it's not been a minute and you're just watching a clip compilation.
[03:03:58] God. I just, I can't stand people who are just confidently stupid. Like it's just
[03:04:05] Dunning Kruger all the way down. You know what I mean?
[03:04:08] Yeah, yeah
[03:04:11] It's just hot
[03:04:14] 358 videos it's kind of be more than it's gotta be at least 500
[03:04:22] 363 sorry, it's alarming. I was right. It's very scary. I
[03:04:27] Was intending to visit Singapore soon, but I don't know if I could do that
[03:04:33] Mm-hmm
[03:04:35] It's it would be crazy if he did a collab with Pegasus IRL and Pegasus was able to interview him
[03:04:41] It would be really funny listen in the same way that like you that would be really funny actually because it would not go the way
[03:04:48] He thinks it would
[03:04:50] Evidence by the fact that it never does
[03:04:54] There are very rare moments where someone who is like an online hater will approach me in the real world and
[03:05:00] And that interaction never goes the way they think it will.
[03:05:07] So that's actually pretty funny that he's speculating that that interaction would actually go the way he thinks it will, where like Pegasus will come in and be like, you are actually a loser.
[03:05:18] And then I'm going to be like, no, you honed me. Oh, I've been reduced. I've been reduced into nothing.
[03:05:25] Also, I was, you know, memeing here, but hey, whatever, if they think it's being serious, if they think I'm being serious, then that's fine.
[03:05:34] I'm happy with that. Seemingly, Pegasus has taken that seriously. Who brings it? Like, you're just, he's just criticizing you. That's all.
[03:05:41] This is, this is an evaluation. It's fair.
[03:05:44] Because it's, this is journalism. Like, is he against journalism now? This is journalism.
[03:05:50] Well, it turns out, as Alyssa Mercante's case has shown us,
[03:05:53] us. No, the courts actually don't see it in that same way. As a matter of fact, when
[03:05:58] you routinely engage in fucking defamation, slander, and actively cyberstalk someone,
[03:06:05] a normal judge, a normal judge, not a Singaporean judge, by the way, because a Singaporean judge
[03:06:11] might actually view this very differently. Much, much, the Singaporean judge might be
[03:06:19] much more strict
[03:06:21] okay
[03:06:22] and and might have a uh... uh... far more rigid application and interpretation
[03:06:26] of the law
[03:06:27] however an american judge it seems india listener country case that i was
[03:06:32] bringing up
[03:06:35] has uh... uh... uh... uh... very different opinion about uh... what
[03:06:39] constitutes for fair journalism and what constitutes for cyber stocking and
[03:06:43] actively fomenting hatred towards uh...
[03:06:46] an individual on the internet. Simply can't stress enough how differently the good state
[03:06:53] of Singapore might view the situation, the best state of Singapore, the best state, okay?
[03:07:00] Just want to point out, Singapore, my life for Singapore, okay? I will personally pry
[03:07:08] open the Strait of Malacca if I have to, if they ever dare to stop transit from that
[03:07:15] straight? Do you understand my life for Singapore? I live for Singapore. Singapore, more like
[03:07:28] sing a rich true.
[03:07:33] Just want the judge to remember that the things that I've said, the love that I've demonstrated
[03:07:43] it's like this.
[03:07:47] Well how these guys are like law-hussang getting subpoena but the moment you mentioned they're
[03:07:50] breaking the laws in their own country they flipped the script.
[03:07:52] Yeah I can't control my goo.
[03:07:55] Yeah they really can't be controlling their goo.
[03:07:59] Ah.
[03:08:00] I thought he liked journalists.
[03:08:04] When you look at his instagram page, he's actually celebrating it.
[03:08:09] Right?
[03:08:10] The legendary series is officially, dude, this guy is a complete proud hater.
[03:08:15] That's insane.
[03:08:17] And so the legendary series has officially reached 300 episodes, absolutely.
[03:08:21] Wait, he literally just said this was real journalism and then openly recognized that
[03:08:26] he was a complete proud hater?
[03:08:30] So I guess it's not.
[03:08:34] So, so I guess it's not journalism.
[03:08:38] I guess it's being a hater as a bitch.
[03:08:43] Will we ever see you in clothes that are not a suit again since you were for both important events and inside your house?
[03:08:47] Uh, maybe.
[03:08:48] Blue Cinema.
[03:08:49] Fighting the evil Diddy Piker and restoring common sense, one episode at a time.
[03:08:54] Ten-
[03:08:55] Like even that, like calling me Diddy Piker.
[03:08:58] Like, that's, that's slander.
[03:09:00] It's, it's total, it's total slander.
[03:09:03] You know?
[03:09:03] 10 is defamation and it would recommend but seriously thank you guys for all the support
[03:09:10] I could not have done it without you stay tuned for the greatest entertainment humanity
[03:09:15] has ever known do you feel like I'm crazy for being alarmed and scared and worried about
[03:09:22] the stalker here there's a defamation one too what is he doing he's got I guess he's confused
[03:09:32] because I didn't just like rely on chat GPT or GROC or something because his brain doesn't function.
[03:09:40] His brain doesn't function when someone is just like reaching out to primary resources.
[03:09:49] As opposed to, you know, asking chat GPT how to be farming, like, what are you doing?
[03:09:56] There's even unintentional defamation.
[03:09:58] What are you doing?
[03:09:59] And I love him, but also I am now scared of him.
[03:10:02] Initially, I was like wow how wonderful this must be a fan page and then I realized he's a he's exhibiting stalker-like behavior and also
[03:10:09] defaming me uh-huh and causing great injury to me
[03:10:14] Psychologically and and I don't go to Felipe
[03:10:18] doctor Felipe
[03:10:21] 100 gifted subs to dr. Gerard. I
[03:10:25] Don't like that. I'm so sorry. This must be horrible for you
[03:10:32] Oh, this must be so sad. I am scared. Yeah, even a single instance of defamation is unacceptable and puts you in fear
[03:10:42] He's clearly not picking up on you playing it up
[03:10:45] Yeah, I think his his whole attitude relies on it, but I also do think he's just stupid
[03:10:52] He's not a particularly intelligent guy. Yeah, I was only you think lines a lot of the threat into Sue snarkers am I right?
[03:10:58] Singapore loves Palestine, so Pegasus will be fucked. Please read this on. Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
[03:11:07] He literally thinks you're being fully sincere. Well, apparently so did Pegasus because he's now
[03:11:16] going to put a stop. He's going to add more variety to his content. So maybe I am being
[03:11:25] fully sincere. We'll explore our options. Yeah, I love this idea that if someone is
[03:11:36] doing something bad and illegal to you that you're supposed to just take it, how do you
[03:11:39] look up legal avenues? Oh, no. I mean, even if I'm doing it insincerely, like, it still
[03:11:45] doesn't matter. Like, these guys are genuinely like, they're doing the thing that the fucking
[03:11:51] Twitter meme like that my enemy is ontologically evil so I can do any evil act against them and it's perfectly moral and just
[03:11:59] They have designed me as their you know
[03:12:03] ontologically evil enemy. It's over. It's like I
[03:12:08] They could do whatever they want. They could fucking kill me and it would be fine
[03:12:16] You should react that way more office or they're forced to react to you hamming it up a total sincerity and outrage
[03:12:21] yeah anyway let's just run this real quick
[03:12:51] Beautiful country, beautiful people, beautiful country, beautiful people, and perhaps most
[03:13:06] beautiful of all, a wonderful, robust criminal justice system.
[03:13:14] life for Singapore once again. Fantastic stuff. All right, let's get into it. I did a Democracy Now hit
[03:13:24] earlier this morning at fucking 5am and I feel like I didn't actually do a very good job.
[03:13:30] But let's start here. We will talk about my banning from the UK. I'm Amy Goodman with Juan
[03:13:40] Gonzales. Earlier this week, the British government banned the progressive political commentators,
[03:13:47] Hassan Piker and Cenk Uger, from entering the UK. They were scheduled to speak at the South
[03:13:54] by Southwest London Festival and the Oxford Union Society. The UK's Home Office said it was
[03:14:02] canceling their travel permits, quote, on the grounds that their presence in the UK may not
[03:14:08] be conducive to the public good." Both Piker and Ugar are outspoken in their criticism
[03:14:15] of Israel. Recent comments that have drawn scrutiny include Piker saying that as a quote
[03:14:23] lesser evil voter, he would vote for Hamas over Israel every single time. The week prior
[03:14:31] to their ban, British Labour MP David Taylor called for Piker to be barred saying, quote,
[03:14:37] shocking that South by Southwest would invite someone who's openly supported a proscribed
[03:14:43] terrorist organization and spouted these kinds of vile anti-Semitic rants to speak at their
[03:14:49] festival.
[03:14:50] With the unacceptable rise in anti-Semitism on our streets leaving British Jews in a constant
[03:14:56] state of anxiety, Hassan Piker is clearly not conducive to the public good, he said.
[03:15:02] Zanpiker is one of the most prominent online influencers on the left.
[03:15:09] He has millions of followers and subscribers across social media platforms.
[03:15:15] He livestreams on the gaming platform Twitch for hours every day.
[03:15:20] Recently, he's drawn the ire of the Democratic Party leadership for endorsing and campaigning
[03:15:26] on behalf of progressive candidates and primaries across the country.
[03:15:32] To talk more about his ban from the U.K., his views on Israel, his critique of the Democratic
[03:15:37] Party and more, we're joined by Hassan Piker from his home where he streams in West Hollywood,
[03:15:44] California.
[03:15:45] Hassan, welcome to Democracy Now!
[03:15:48] Can you start off by responding to this ban on you?
[03:15:53] And Cenk is your uncle, is that right, Cenk Yuger, on what this means?
[03:15:59] In fact, you're gonna virtually participate
[03:16:01] in the Oxford debate anyway, right?
[03:16:04] Yeah, I was also supposed to,
[03:16:07] first of all, thank you for having me.
[03:16:08] It's a real honor to be on the show.
[03:16:10] I'm basically listening to the show
[03:16:13] a lot earlier than I normally would
[03:16:15] because I usually do that in my morning routine.
[03:16:19] But so, Cenk and I were supposed to participate
[03:16:22] at the Oxford Union.
[03:16:24] We were supposed to do different panels
[03:16:26] of South by Southwest.
[03:16:27] I was also supposed to have a conversation with Jeremy Corbyn and
[03:16:32] Zach Polanski, the leader of the green party.
[03:16:35] And I also had another talk set up with a former Greek finance minister,
[03:16:39] Yanis Varifakis. Um, and then, um,
[03:16:43] Jake was supposed to travel to the UK with his family and he was stopped at the
[03:16:48] airport.
[03:16:48] And he found out that his visa had been rescinded and that he could not get on the
[03:16:53] on the plan so I ended up checking my visa as well and found out that my visa was also revoked.
[03:17:00] Now, I find what the British government did here to be objectionable. I find it to be disgusting.
[03:17:08] I also find it to be terrifying. I think it's a terrifying prospect for the future
[03:17:13] of Western liberal democracies. The fact that a country that has in the past harbored much more
[03:17:21] radical thinkers than myself to completely drop all pretext that they care about free expression
[03:17:31] instead of protecting it is, I think, a sign of the times. I think it's a sign that we're moving
[03:17:36] down into a, we're headed down a very different, dare I say, fascist direction in the Western world.
[03:17:43] And this is happening Hassan under a labor government in Britain, especially given Britain's
[03:17:55] particular role when it comes to Israel and Palestine being the primary imperial power
[03:18:02] that allowed the creation or promoted the development of the state of Israel.
[03:18:08] Yeah, absolutely. There's definitely a lot of culpability. Not, I'm bet, extends far beyond
[03:18:16] the Balfour Declaration. And the British government has been coordinating with the Israeli government.
[03:18:26] The Royal Air Force has been conducting surveillance missions, flying off of their cypress base.
[03:18:31] Here, Starmer has actually visited this base and has openly admitted that he could never
[03:18:37] say in broad daylight what the Royal Air Force is doing there.
[03:18:43] Starmer has also invited Isaac Herzog, who has been mentioned in the ICC and the ICJ
[03:18:50] court cases against both Israel and Israeli officials, like former Defense Minister Yohav
[03:18:56] Galat and current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
[03:18:59] So the fact that England extends a red carpet to war criminals and collaborators of war
[03:19:06] criminals that have played a role in the genocide of the Palestinians, but then critics of Israel
[03:19:14] are considered to be real threats, significant threats to public safety, is preposterous.
[03:19:21] But once again, I think this is a real warning, just as the prescription of Palestine action
[03:19:29] and the mass arrests that have taken place of pensioners in the UK that have demonstrated
[03:19:37] in support of Palestine action was a very clear attempt by the British government to
[03:19:44] do the exact opposite of the democratic process, to refuse to listen to the very just and moral
[03:19:49] demands of the masses and instead suppress their voices and try to silence them through
[03:19:55] state repression, is very clear that there's a terrifying direction that the UK is headed
[03:20:04] down. And yes, it is the Labour government's complicity, both in the crimes that Israel
[03:20:11] is committed, but it's also the Labour government's complicity in the acceleration towards fascism.
[03:20:16] Because the next government that comes in, if it's, God forbid, a reform government,
[03:20:21] a far-right authoritarian government, they're going to overtake this exact same process,
[03:20:26] and they might not have even the restrictions of the labor government is applying currently.
[03:20:31] So to offer them the keys of the castle in this manner is complicity.
[03:20:36] It's something that we've seen.
[03:20:38] It's appeasement.
[03:20:39] It's something that we've seen throughout history in the past where liberals assumed.
[03:20:44] Honestly, this might be it for me.
[03:20:46] I'm tired of waiting around for a song like I don't have anything better to do.
[03:20:49] Clearly he doesn't respect our time.
[03:20:50] We respect his this is a mutual relationship as far as I'm concerned, but it's beginning to seem very one-sided
[03:20:56] I think this is where I unfollow an unsub 48 months by the way. Thanks everyone, but I can't take it anymore
[03:21:05] God forbid I'm away from the fucking camera while I'm literally talking wearing the same exact goddamn suit, too
[03:21:13] And showing you a video from earlier in the day
[03:21:18] Okay, God forbid
[03:21:20] That's a great copypasta that they could overtake the the reactionary demands coming from the right in an effort to keep control and they ultimately failed to the fascist.
[03:21:31] I wanted to ask you also about another international issue which you've been involved.
[03:21:40] Read logs to park just got announced in the new Ryu ga gotoku game. Oh my God.
[03:21:50] Okay, nice dude. You're doing great in that video. I don't think you did poorly. Okay, good
[03:21:59] All right
[03:22:03] I'm skipping the rest of this we're not watching the national but I did do an interview with the national as well the other day
[03:22:08] Hey, you guys can you guys can can listen to that as well. Let's get to the bombshell
[03:22:14] that's a bomb shell the czar bomba the czar bomba
[03:22:22] of allegations launched against gram platner ladies and gentlemen ladies and gentlemen
[03:22:35] is that your 1983 our money suit no it's not this is a puller off loren uh just a jacket so
[03:22:40] So yesterday I covered this, but I'm just going to touch up on it a little bit.
[03:22:47] For the last week or so, a lot of operatives on the political side were spelling trouble
[03:22:57] for the Graham Platner, main Senate run.
[03:23:03] They said over and over again that things were going to get really bad for Graham, okay?
[03:23:09] Grant Plattner was going to be out at, was doing heinous things.
[03:23:18] And there was even suspicion that there was a sexual assault allegation coming.
[03:23:22] I mean, it was horrible things, right?
[03:23:29] Turns out the New York Times has spent the last six or so months, okay?
[03:23:37] out for the last six months or so, the New York Times had gone and extensively looked
[03:23:51] through every single relationship that Grant Platner had had and conducted interviews with
[03:24:02] every single former partner of Grand Planner. Now, this you might think is maybe a little crazy.
[03:24:11] Like obviously, you know, there's a lot of background information that people look for
[03:24:18] when someone is running for Senate. I will openly admit that I've never actually seen
[03:24:25] this level of coverage. Perhaps there was some, and maybe I missed it, but I've never,
[03:24:33] I have never personally seen this level of investigative reporting on the possible misdealings
[03:24:44] of someone running for Senate, okay?
[03:24:47] Okay? It's a bit much. It's a bit much. So, in any case, they did that. What about Matt
[03:25:06] Gates? One, not running for office, and two, after Matt Gates' best friend was in a criminal
[03:25:15] trial and went to jail for sexual misconduct related issues.
[03:25:24] You do understand that there's a difference between, like, if there's smoke, there's fire.
[03:25:30] That makes sense.
[03:25:32] This is a targeted attempt at doing opposition research.
[03:25:47] You get it, right?
[03:25:49] Like, this is an attempt to create smoke and then, therefore, point to the fire.
[03:25:58] This case also involved minors.
[03:26:02] There's a difference in the example that you used as evidenced by the fact that no one
[03:26:08] knew about Matt Gay's doing this when he was running, and they only found out about it
[03:26:14] after his best friend was arrested and criminally prosecuted.
[03:26:21] That's my argument, right?
[03:26:25] a little bit different. So, yeah, for sex trafficking, his best friend got convicted of sex trafficking
[03:26:41] and some of the victims were minors, including some of the minors that were found to be involved
[03:26:49] with Matt Gaetz, none of which came out until this, you know, court proceeding to place,
[03:26:56] and none of it certainly came out during the opposition research that was conducted on Matt
[03:27:02] Gaetz when Matt Gaetz was running. So, very different set of circumstances, I need you to
[03:27:07] to understand, right?
[03:27:21] Now, the New York Times wrote this entire article where they went to six of
[03:27:26] Graham Plattner's former girlfriends.
[03:27:29] And out of four out of six of them had some neutral or nice things to say,
[03:27:36] straight up nice things to say. I say four out of six, one of them wasn't as neutral because
[03:27:42] one of them actually said that it reminded him of him being grand platter being misogynistic,
[03:27:49] right? That one is a neutral. And then one said they had a complex relationship.
[03:27:56] And there was one instance that ended the relationship where a grand platter showed up at
[03:28:00] her house drunk after she said, don't come over, okay? But there was one,
[03:28:08] there was one ex-girlfriend that had a lot to say about Grand Plattener, including
[03:28:15] some fairly significant allegations where she drew a line at domestic violence.
[03:28:24] But basically, most people that would read that would say, this is domestic violence, right? Like
[03:28:29] she said that Grand Plattner had never like physically hurt her but had gotten physical with her
[03:28:37] and she was in fear, right? Now, that one person, The New York Times also reported,
[03:28:52] did not actually have any corroborating evidence after The New York Times looked through
[03:28:58] through and reviewed all of her text messages, all of her text messages, and the text messages
[03:29:06] you had with her friends, like the conversation they read her diary.
[03:29:10] And then the New York Times openly wrote in the article that there was no corroboration.
[03:29:17] Like the New York Times could not independently verify these allegations and there was no
[03:29:21] corroboration.
[03:29:22] Now, that's pretty significant and the reason for why that's significant is because this
[03:29:27] This is a massive allegation, like the most maximum version of this is to accuse someone
[03:29:34] running for Senate of domestic abuse, domestic violence, right?
[03:29:39] And when you have an allegation of this sort, and you're not like some fucking random YouTuber
[03:29:45] or the New York Post, if you are the paper of record, if you're the gray lady, if you
[03:29:50] are the New York Times, these claims need to be accompanied with a tremendous amount
[03:29:56] evidence, corroborating evidence. Now, the reason why I say that is because the New York Times upholds
[03:30:05] an editorial standard. Now, at times, we have seen the New York Times reduce their editorial
[03:30:12] standards. One of the most famous instances of the New York Times openly reducing their editorial
[03:30:20] standards in an effort to get a story out, was with the article Screams Without Words.
[03:30:28] The article that accused Hamas militants and the entire Palestinian resistance of engaging
[03:30:34] in coordinated, mass-directed mass rapes on October 7. Virtually every single piece of
[03:30:44] information that they delivered in that article has been completely dismissed and proven to be wrong.
[03:30:53] Okay? And there was a lot of internal conflict at the New York Times at the time. The story became
[03:31:01] how this became a story in and of itself, right? Now, of course, the damage was done already.
[03:31:09] people went with it, people went along with it, and to this day, people still get very upset when
[03:31:15] you say there was no mass rapes that took place on October 7th, and there's no evidence, rather,
[03:31:20] of mass rapes that took place on October 7th, and certainly not directed by Hamas.
[03:31:31] And what's interesting about that is that I know for a fact that there was a lot of internal
[03:31:41] commotion with this specific story as well. Okay? The New York Times once again lowered
[03:31:56] their editorial standards, instead of upholding their and maintaining their integrity and
[03:32:03] upholding their editorial standards, they chose to reduce them.
[03:32:09] And in the process of reducing them, they wrote this article and they obviously couldn't
[03:32:14] New York post it and fucking hit the grand platinum as a domestic abuser.
[03:32:20] They came out with the title.
[03:32:24] Where is the New York Times report on it?
[03:32:25] Let me see if I can find it real quick.
[03:32:27] They basically wrote this article where they were like,
[03:32:30] yeah, several women, exclusive from the New York Times,
[03:32:34] several women who dated Grant Platner recall
[03:32:36] unsettling behavior, okay?
[03:32:42] This is a way to basically say,
[03:32:46] you should be worried about Grant Platner,
[03:32:48] but we don't have enough information
[03:32:51] to openly tell you why.
[03:32:55] Okay
[03:33:05] And of course there were still a lot of people who obviously read the headline and
[03:33:10] Didn't already like grand platinum for a litany of different reasons that went along with it. They were like this fucking bullshit
[03:33:16] So, are you saying you think it's untrue or what you're saying about the allegations?
[03:33:27] I think that there was embellishment.
[03:33:32] There was a little bit of maybe hyperbole, potentially, or at least there is enough cause
[03:33:38] for suspicion that there is hyperbole in some of the statements that one of the girlfriends
[03:33:47] of Graham Plattner made.
[03:33:50] And the reason for why I say this is because we very quickly found out, well, one, the
[03:33:56] reason why I say this is because the New York Times itself said this, right?
[03:34:00] Like they, or at least they leaned into it, right?
[03:34:03] remember, professional journalists are fairly decent writers and they also have
[03:34:09] a legal team. They know exactly how to soft-pedal a domestic violence
[03:34:16] allegation without actually saying it, without actually just like leaning
[03:34:21] across the finish line. But then they'll engage in some ass covering in the
[03:34:25] process, right? And it's interesting because like the long and short of it
[03:34:30] is seven ex-girlfriends are interviewed and half of them have nothing but nice things
[03:34:37] to say.
[03:34:39] And then one of them says they ended the relationship on a sour note and then one has all the meat,
[03:34:46] all of the allegations.
[03:34:48] It just happens to be that the person that had the allegations is a Republican operative
[03:34:54] who has not only been a Republican operative for the past decade, but is a Republican operative
[03:35:00] that has exclusively worked with an organization that actually is responsible for the PR initiative
[03:35:07] that got Susan Collins across the finish line on the Brett Kavanaugh appointment when Brett
[03:35:14] Kavanaugh had a litany of rape allegations that surrounded his appointment proceeding.
[03:35:27] Do you understand?
[03:35:40] Like I want to find the actual point that is the most interesting.
[03:35:51] Cassie Pritchard, this has dramatically reduced how much weight I'm giving her platinum accusations
[03:35:54] from a lot to nearly none is strange credulity that some longtime GOP operative in NOVA really
[03:35:59] thinks the New York Times duped her into aid plattner, doesn't know how to fact check,
[03:36:03] doesn't know how fact check works, etc., but it's perfectly calibrated for partisan conservative
[03:36:06] audience and the razor on standing. Yeah. Okay. Jesus Christ. The fact that the Ultras
[03:36:20] biting on this so hard, makes me so disciplined in the US left, it merits suspicion. No, many
[03:36:25] of the ultras that I've seen, this was their turning point when they were like, oh, I see
[03:36:29] what's going on here.
[03:36:31] I saw numerous people on the timeline be like, I fucking hate Graham Plattner. He's literally
[03:36:36] a war criminal. I despise them, but this is very up, very clearly a Zionist smear job.
[03:36:43] Because a squirrel came out against the New York Times on this.
[03:36:50] Because it is that.
[03:36:51] Let's be real.
[03:36:52] Okay?
[03:36:53] It is that.
[03:36:56] They are trying to actively besmirch and, and harnish and ruin the chances of a, a Democrat
[03:37:06] possibly being the, the majority vote in an otherwise Republican controlled Senate that
[03:37:13] That also happens to be a Democrat that's openly anti-Israel.
[03:37:18] And that's a big problem for a lot of people.
[03:37:20] Yeah, look, I don't like Plattner as he's an unrepentant war criminal who volunteered
[03:37:24] to be a Blackwater mercenary, but that New York Times piece, the most transparent Israel
[03:37:27] lobby Zionist mirror piece, bullshit.
[03:37:29] Every part of it from the fake victim to the authors is fabricated by rabid Zionist freaks.
[03:37:39] person, like the, if there were, look, when I read the article, what did I tell you from
[03:37:45] the start? If there were other Republicans, not Republican operatives, it was just like
[03:37:50] regular Republican women that Grand Plattner dated that had anything that would corroborate
[03:37:56] similar experiences to the major testimonial coming from Lindsay Feefield, the party with
[03:38:08] all of the allegations, then there would be a little bit more weight.
[03:38:14] There would probably be a little bit more weight to the accusation. There would be
[03:38:18] a lot more credibility to the accusations. And for the record, again,
[03:38:25] Graham Plattner, PTSD adult vet, has alcohol issues. It makes perfect sense for there to be
[03:38:34] something there, okay? So it's definitely not an unbelievable story. It's definitely a very
[03:38:41] believable story. As a matter of fact, I would go so far, say millions of Americans have similar
[03:38:47] complex stories with relationships that they've had with their loved ones when they come back
[03:38:54] from active duty combat. So this is not a unique story at all, okay?
[03:39:03] Okay, the uniqueness of this story perhaps comes from the fact that the only person that
[03:39:09] had these allegations was a Republican operative that had specifically worked on the Brett
[03:39:17] Kavanaugh case to urge the Republican Party who did crisis PR basically for the Republican
[03:39:28] party, including but not limited to Susan Collins, who Graham Platner is, is working
[03:39:32] to unseat in, in writing a message that would allow her to defend in the post me to era,
[03:39:41] appointing Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court of the United States.
[03:39:47] In S. Deppman and Lindsay Feefield, there are two millennial women who co-founded the group
[03:39:51] Ladies for Kavanaugh to show their support for the nominee.
[03:39:55] pro-Kavanaugh group was formed on their own time. Not only did this lady work for a group
[03:40:05] as a Republican operative, work for a group, independent women for Congress or something,
[03:40:09] I forget what it's called, that wrote the PR message for Susan Collins and every other Republican
[03:40:19] that would justify their vote for Brett Kavanaugh in spite of the rape allegations.
[03:40:25] But she literally co-founded the group Ladies for Kavanaugh, show the support for the nominee
[03:40:31] when they felt that view was being left out of the public discourse.
[03:40:34] Their day jobs are in conservative politics, that meant at the Independent Women's Forum.
[03:40:38] This is the group that she's a part of.
[03:40:40] And Feefield, or at the Heritage Foundation, who Feefield then joined, or joined before
[03:40:46] Independent Women's Group, okay?
[03:40:48] Feefield and her pro-Kavanaugh friends, it stayed quiet during the original hearings
[03:40:52] while liberal women rage in the streets and on social media, but in the wake of
[03:40:55] basis 11th hour our accusations orchestrated and stopped Kavanaugh's confirmation we
[03:40:59] couldn't stay silent anymore," Peefield said.
[03:41:08] The person who wrote the article is a former APAC activist of the year. By the
[03:41:14] way, the journalist at the New York Times who wrote the article that would
[03:41:19] normally not meet the paper's editorial standards. Her name is Katie Gluck, Katie Glick, who
[03:41:29] literally has received an award from APAC. So down to the bone of this article, you see
[03:41:38] nefarious afoot. I didn't even know that she also started on her own time, apparently,
[03:41:58] a group called Ladies for Kavanaugh, which makes it even less substantive, her allegations.
[03:42:08] The 2016 text from Feefield's friend saying,
[03:42:13] do not call Graham is a load bearing pillar
[03:42:15] of the New York Times story.
[03:42:16] The reporters used it to illustrate
[03:42:17] that people in Feefield's life
[03:42:18] were aware of their allegations.
[03:42:20] They even made it a heading.
[03:42:22] Now Feefield says the text was a joke from a friend
[03:42:24] after she ended another relationship.
[03:42:26] If it were a joke,
[03:42:27] surely the New York Times reporters would have known
[03:42:29] since they read her messages.
[03:42:31] And if it wasn't a joke,
[03:42:32] why is Feefield now claiming it was?
[03:42:35] Do not call Graham.
[03:42:36] That was the fucking headline of the piece.
[03:42:41] I booked, so some new information has come out since this article and that's why I was covering it again.
[03:42:48] Okay.
[03:42:51] One, this is something that covered yesterday, but the, but of course Lindsay Feefield has lied in the past
[03:42:57] in the past about Mahmoud Khalil and Ramayza Osterk saying,
[03:43:01] they were not targeted for advocacy against Israel.
[03:43:03] They're being held accountable for destruction of property,
[03:43:06] organizing violent actions, making threats to Jewish students
[03:43:08] and distributing materials funded
[03:43:10] by state-designated terrorist groups.
[03:43:12] You'll be surprised to learn you can't promote terrorism
[03:43:14] and death to America while you're here
[03:43:15] on a student visa or green card.
[03:43:16] Let's see an update.
[03:43:18] Interesting assertion, all I've seen is that Osterk
[03:43:20] wrote an op-ed.
[03:43:21] Do you have evidence otherwise?
[03:43:22] Her arrest had nothing to do with an op-ed.
[03:43:24] That was the lie they ran with.
[03:43:25] And you just nom, nom, nom that talking point
[03:43:27] up without question. So I ask you once again, if someone is so involved in political knife
[03:43:40] fights of this sort that as a political operative that is so invested in defending the Zionist
[03:43:49] occupation and the genocide, that they will actively lie about legal permanent residents
[03:44:00] writing op-eds and being criminalized for criticizing the state of Israel.
[03:44:04] What makes you think they won't fucking make up shit about a possible senator that will
[03:44:11] be openly against Israel, a vote, a reliable vote against Israel?
[03:44:15] What makes you think that they won't do that?
[03:44:18] You have to be fucking delusional to not be skeptical of these allegations.
[03:44:23] This is not a normal, random person.
[03:44:48] Lindsay Feefield, Serious Question. What would go in a Palsadium Museum? What are their accomplishments, inventions, or notable figures apart from terrorists and bombs made from the water pipes Israel gave them to pipe in free water for their people?
[03:45:18] So, just remember all of that.
[03:45:35] But, yeah, Lindsay Feefield, since the article came out, has also responded.
[03:45:44] She wrote two, 13 hours ago, she wrote these long, extensive screeds on Twitter.
[03:45:54] She said, anyone who's ever extracted themselves from a relationship with a narcissistic abuser
[03:45:57] knows it isn't clean or easy.
[03:45:59] I cringe remembering how many times I tried to play the cool girl or fauna responsible,
[03:46:01] it was clearly abusive, coercively controlling behavior by Graham.
[03:46:05] I also know how dangerous it is to become the target of a narcissist, so even long after
[03:46:08] our relationship ended, I continued to be upbeat at any time he reached out, though
[03:46:12] I would also immediately shut down any attempts on his part to initiate flirting or romanticizing
[03:46:16] of the past.
[03:46:17] Yes, the day I saw him announce he was running, I wanted to make sure people knew he had a
[03:46:21] Nazi tattoo and I was terrified he would find out it was me, but of course he knew it was
[03:46:25] me.
[03:46:26] What's ironic is, I absolutely never would have shared my story if he hadn't been relentlessly
[03:46:29] attacking my character behind the scenes for months once the tattoo story came out.
[03:46:33] I tried to signal that I wasn't the source and stayed completely silent about him on
[03:46:35] social media, even as most of my friends posted regularly about what a bad person he is.
[03:46:40] But then in early April, the New York Times came to me.
[03:46:42] I asked how they got my number.
[03:46:43] I said I was not interested in sharing my story.
[03:46:45] They said, but wait, there are other women.
[03:46:48] Women terrify the tell their stories too.
[03:46:50] And you need to band together.
[03:46:51] We will help you.
[03:46:52] We will protect you.
[03:46:53] Men can't keep getting away with this.
[03:46:55] Guess what?
[03:46:58] This is what a Republican operative does.
[03:47:01] Now that her credibility has been tarnished all up and down the timeline, she's pulling
[03:47:07] the fuck the New York Times cord, to at least manage her own personal reputation and perhaps
[03:47:15] still continue to be a Republican operative.
[03:47:18] Notice how she immediately shifts the blame over to the New York Times and says, the New
[03:47:23] York Times actually had credible rape accusations, actually, they were gonna meet to him.
[03:47:28] Classic New York Times inventing me to scandals, right?
[03:47:34] That's it.
[03:47:36] That's literally what she's doing.
[03:47:37] She's she's signaling to the conservative crowd that she's still open for business
[03:47:48] Hours before wait, where the fuck did it go Jesus Christ?
[03:47:57] Hours before their first call to me
[03:47:59] I saw Eric Swalwell's nameplate get removed from his office door and cannon it felt like fate
[03:48:03] I welcome the two journalists on that and brings up Eric Swalwell. Like there's a similarity here
[03:48:08] I welcome the two journals into my home days later nervous and overwhelmed just in Fairfax had just murdered his wife and
[03:48:13] himself the previous day and even conservative pundits were
[03:48:16] Conjecturing that if only those women hadn't accused him of abuse this would have never happened, but I told him my story
[03:48:21] I let them implying that grand platter is gonna fucking murder her
[03:48:24] I told him my story. I let them take pictures of my dire pages sent them screenshots to messages and gave them phone numbers and contacts
[03:48:30] that we was excruciating.
[03:48:31] I was surprised by what details I remembered.
[03:48:34] And as I poured through old messages,
[03:48:35] horrified by how much I'd forgotten.
[03:48:37] I explained very clearly that like many women abused
[03:48:40] by their partners, I had not told anyone about
[03:48:41] as violence at the time.
[03:48:42] I had covered for it and defended it.
[03:48:44] I accepted his earnest apologies.
[03:48:45] They said that's fine because the diary entries
[03:48:47] and my on the record story was enough.
[03:48:49] They connected me to two of the other victims
[03:48:52] so we wouldn't feel so alone.
[03:48:53] I insisted to each of them that I trusted
[03:48:55] the New York Times journalist
[03:48:56] and what we were doing was the right thing
[03:48:57] despite their sadly very accurate sense
[03:48:58] something was wrong. One of the victims and I realized that
[03:49:02] relationship with Graham overlapped completely. He had been
[03:49:04] cheating on both of us the entire time we were together. I
[03:49:06] should know here that my life is just dot dot dot beautiful.
[03:49:08] These are the best years of my life raising two young girls in a
[03:49:10] safe beautiful neighborhood where I work from home and
[03:49:12] shuttle my children from dance classes and soccer to
[03:49:16] church events. I'm blessed far beyond what I deserve. Wonderful
[03:49:18] friends and family and the most loving, brilliant husband in
[03:49:21] the world. Why would I blow up my life like this? Why would I
[03:49:23] risk the psychotic doxin from violin leftist activist? Because
[03:49:26] While I have been terrified to come forward, I decided this was the hard right thing to do.
[03:49:31] The guilt of staying silent had nagged me. Most therapists recommended a gray rock approach to
[03:49:35] extracting yourself from narcissistic abuse. It works really well. But it's a gift to the abuser,
[03:49:39] allowing them to persist in their delusion that they've done nothing wrong. They couldn't stay silent.
[03:49:45] Yeah, she also lied about still being an active Republican operative. The New York Times said
[03:49:48] that Lindsay Feefield had been out of politics and isn't doing anything with the conservative
[03:49:52] dark-minded group Independent Women's Forum anymore. But here she is getting quoted at a
[03:49:55] of Republican Congressional event mid April of 2026 a few weeks ago with IWF as her ID.
[03:50:06] This requires a correction from the New York Times mind you, like that is, that is straight
[03:50:12] up wrong information.
[03:50:15] The New York Times is putting, like they didn't put any effort into looking into her background
[03:50:21] at all, or they did and chose not to report on it.
[03:50:28] Do it is still doing this shit?
[03:50:30] Yes, I am.
[03:50:32] Yes, and I think it's important to do this, even for someone of shitty character or poor
[03:50:41] moral choices in the past, as far as like joining fucking Blackwater, do you want to
[03:50:45] know why, because it's very, you have to fucking push back if you see a smear job being conducted
[03:50:54] by a fucking Republican operative.
[03:50:56] Because if you don't actually build some fucking backbone towards this kind of thing, you're
[03:51:00] gonna constantly find yourself duped by Republican operatives in the future, as you have done
[03:51:04] so in the past.
[03:51:07] Republicans love tugging on our heartstrings, okay?
[03:51:10] They love tugging on our heartstrings.
[03:51:12] They never abide by the same moral standards or the principles, and they actually deploy
[03:51:17] a unique set of circumstances and principles to you that you might not even abide by.
[03:51:21] And then they accuse you of hypocrisy in the process.
[03:51:24] And people on the sidelines get duped by it every single fucking time.
[03:51:29] They weaponize woke.
[03:51:30] 100% they weaponize woke.
[03:51:33] This is all they fucking do.
[03:51:34] It's the most obvious shit.
[03:51:41] a woman who does not give a single shred of a solitary fuck
[03:51:46] rape allegations so much so that she actively worked
[03:51:52] to
[03:51:53] uh... persuade people to vote for brett caban as the next spring court
[03:51:57] uh... justice who then turned around and of course return the favor to all women
[03:52:01] in the united states of america
[03:52:03] with the abortion decision
[03:52:04] for the record
[03:52:07] after lying to everyone that it was a super president that wouldn't be touched
[03:52:16] is now supposedly the single
[03:52:18] solitary loan
[03:52:20] uh... uh... victim
[03:52:23] and witness
[03:52:25] to uh... grand platter is uh... uh... serial domestic abuse that they tried to
[03:52:30] presented as. Anyway, here's the second statement. I booked all advice from my friends. I guess
[03:52:45] this person has blocked me already. Yeah. I was like, why can't I fucking interact with
[03:52:52] their shit? But it turns out I was blocked by her. Makes sense. I booked all advice from
[03:52:57] my friends and resisted my conservative bias and decided to fully trust the
[03:53:00] Times journalists. Okay.
[03:53:08] As they left my home, they asked that I not talk to any other outlets and I
[03:53:11] insisted then and repeatedly over the following is that I would keep my word
[03:53:14] and only share the story with them.
[03:53:19] But then the week dragged on, they kept coming back to us saying the editors
[03:53:22] needed more. I needed to go on the record. Okay, we need more screenshots.
[03:53:25] okay i met every benchmark they said eager to provide more sources are
[03:53:28] evidence as needed
[03:53:30] after the story went up i began to ask them wait
[03:53:32] where the other stories about the other women where their accusations of
[03:53:35] sexual assault why am i the focus why are there eleven paragraphs dedicated
[03:53:38] to be late detail my work history
[03:53:40] more than has been published about grams by far
[03:53:43] why does it say nobody could corroborate when i offered them sources that could
[03:53:47] corroborate
[03:53:48] why did they include an out of context quote from a friend joking
[03:53:52] do not call grant
[03:53:53] after i called off my wedding because she knew i would never
[03:53:57] so what's really fucked up
[03:53:59] is that
[03:54:00] literally the new york times also added
[03:54:04] do not call grand
[03:54:05] that wasn't even about
[03:54:08] like grand platner in that moment was a joke
[03:54:11] and they fucking added that in
[03:54:14] evidence
[03:54:15] to suggest that grand platner was actually uh... you know
[03:54:19] uh... a a horrible abusive monster that even all of her friends new
[03:54:24] and now she's actually fucking uh... opposing that framing as well
[03:54:32] where were the screenshots they said they'd use of the mention that i suppose
[03:54:35] by supported local democrats in the most of my family has been a liberal the
[03:54:38] editor said
[03:54:39] it was too much to explain the times also failed to include any mention uh...
[03:54:42] that i did confide in multiple friends throughout the years that gram had been
[03:54:45] abusive long before he was running for office
[03:54:47] those friends confirmed they told the time so it dawned on me that this really
[03:54:51] was a set up all along the journalist i trusted to convince me to share a story
[03:54:54] i never wanted to tell methodically delayed and twisted this into a gift to
[03:54:58] the platter campaign by the interest of the victims
[03:55:00] yet did they
[03:55:02] yes
[03:55:03] that this was a catch and release story
[03:55:07] but that's the argument now now she's saying that this is a fucking
[03:55:10] catch and release story that they actually hit this bombshell
[03:55:15] to defend Graham Plattner.
[03:55:22] And at the end of my call with them I reluctantly accepted their insistence that this was a powerful
[03:55:25] story and that I had done a brave thing and I thank them for all the hard work they put
[03:55:28] into it still fawning after all these years.
[03:55:35] And now there's a complaint about DC's culture for women from someone who has literally paid
[03:55:39] to do character assassination on Christine Blasey Ford in order to confirm the man who
[03:55:43] overturned Roe v. Wade, there genuinely doesn't seem to be an iota of good faith to this.
[03:55:50] For those of you who think I should have said something at the time, let me remind you of
[03:55:53] DC's culture for women and sadly nothing has changed. When I sent this tweet 13 years ago
[03:55:57] about a Republican staffer, the next morning my boss of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce pulled
[03:56:03] me into his office and told me congressional affairs was furious and that I could get fired
[03:56:07] if I spoke to reporters. I tweeted a photo of the staffer's business card, which I did
[03:56:10] degree to delete, but I refuse to delete this. Everyone who tuned in was mad at me for talking
[03:56:14] about it. Yet, this culture is real for the record. But, I'm sorry, you have literally
[03:56:21] been one of the most loyal servants of this culture for the last decade. And as a matter
[03:56:27] of fact, the additional commentary that you've offered on this issue implies that you still
[03:56:32] choose to be a loyal servant of this culture. This is an organ- You worked for organizations
[03:56:38] that fought to not only maintain this culture, but are the most loyal servants of this culture.
[03:56:43] Again, I'm done. I'm done with Republican agents and reactionaries weaponizing woke.
[03:56:52] I'm done with it. This is one of the things that we got to excise from our movement, okay?
[03:57:00] up. This is one of those things that I think needs to stop. These people do not care about
[03:57:12] this stuff, okay? They don't. They're weaponizing it against people who they perceive do, who
[03:57:19] will easily get duped, okay?
[03:57:25] Stop eating the fucking bait, hook line and goddamn sinker.
[03:57:33] I will say this, I'm probably one of the more rare individuals who has actually leaned further
[03:57:40] in Grand Platinum's direction in the aftermath of these sorts of stories,
[03:57:44] Because I recognize that the people who are launching these attacks are objectively worse
[03:57:52] than he is now as a person.
[03:57:55] Regardless of what he may or may not have done, okay, as a trigger man for empire, right
[03:58:02] now the reason why they're attacking him is not because of that.
[03:58:06] The reason why they're attacking him is in spite of that and because of his statements
[03:58:12] about Israel.
[03:58:13] and it is very fucking obvious.
[03:58:22] Natasha Karecki knew so far there hasn't been no mass exodus from Dems who endorse Plattner.
[03:58:27] He intends to attend a Bar Harbor rally Friday with Ro Khanna. Plattner-Bach's
[03:58:31] Plattner-Bach is forging ahead. It's a lot harder to dislodge is because we know the man.
[03:58:35] Democrats mirrored every woman who stepped forward against Clinton and there were a lot,
[03:58:39] including people who had textured claims of rape by him.
[03:58:42] If they did that for a rich person as Democrat,
[03:58:44] I don't see the justification for ditching Platner.
[03:58:47] That's the other thing.
[03:58:49] Bill Clinton actually did do those things.
[03:58:53] So far, there is no evidence of Grant Platner doing anything close to what Bill Clinton has done.
[03:59:09] I
[03:59:17] Huh
[03:59:18] Yeah, actual manors play into actual manors also give their response to the grand planner allegations of how they feel about him after but
[03:59:26] Yeah, John Joan Walsh when it's her preferred centuries establishment white male versus Joan Washman as a lefty outsider white male the troublesome terror each story
[03:59:33] Yeah, Graham Plattner's rocket to stardom reflects something ugly that's developed not only on the right but the left the only acceptable form of
[03:59:41] Identity policy is now white male identity politics. Okay
[03:59:48] Why are we not entertaining the concept that both could be true
[03:59:50] She can be targeting his campaign and it can also be true that an alcoholic combat that has a tendency to sex women
[03:59:54] Well married get a non-statue work for black water and why did bro data Republican Kavanaugh head does homie ever making a decision?
[04:00:01] Did I say that Graham Plattner makes good decisions? He clearly doesn't. I don't think we're in disagreement there my friend as a matter of fact
[04:00:09] He is a lifetime of bad decisions from joining the Marine Corps to go on fucking four separate tours of duty
[04:00:17] And then joining Blackwater getting a fucking
[04:00:21] Getting a tattoo in any tattoo parlor in split Croatia is always going to give you a 50-50 chance
[04:00:28] that it's a fucking Nazi tattoo at a Nazi tattoo parlor by the way. So that's also another bad
[04:00:33] decision. Okay. So yeah, he has a lifetime of bad decisions. I don't disagree with that.
[04:00:50] Yeah, he never worked for Blackwater. Yeah, it's it's cope. He worked for a private security
[04:00:53] contract that was an offshoot of Blackwater. Blackwater obviously didn't exist at the time
[04:00:57] because of all the fucking war crimes that they had committed. And yes, he did diplomacy security.
[04:01:01] I know he did a he got a contract for Gardner US Ambassador program set up by Obama. These
[04:01:07] Radlips favorite president. Yes, I know. I know all of that.
[04:01:13] I'm aware of all that it's still, you know, it's still once again shows that, you know,
[04:01:19] he didn't have the right mindset at all.
[04:01:26] I'm puzzled as to why people on the left are lumping Homowheel and else I add in with Platter.
[04:01:30] Homowheel is the victim of a racist mere campaign seeking to discredit a respected doctor with a first-person account of the genocide.
[04:01:36] Platter simply has more baggage than God.
[04:01:39] Yeah, whatever happens with Platter, the Democratic right and sympathetic media is going to try and hang his campaign around the neck of every other left-wing candidate like an albatross.
[04:01:46] No one loves comparison between Planner and two squeaky clean doctors more. Yeah, it's fucking totally ridiculous. And guess what?
[04:01:54] That is also part of the reason why I am
[04:01:56] redoubling
[04:01:58] my attitude on this.
[04:02:02] Do you understand?
[04:02:06] Because
[04:02:07] why are they fucking
[04:02:09] engaging in unbelievable racist mirrors against Adam Hamawee?
[04:02:12] basically an American hero in every way shape or form, okay?
[04:02:17] One of the best and brightest that America has ever offered, okay?
[04:02:23] Why are they attacking him?
[04:02:26] Why are they trying to invent controversy around him?
[04:02:29] Same with Abdul El Sayed, incredibly accomplished doctor with two degrees, road scholar, worked
[04:02:38] in fucking public health in Detroit.
[04:02:41] Why? Why are they trying to also mire him in controversy? Why are they trying to tar and
[04:02:48] feather them? Perhaps it has something to do with their positions. Perhaps it has something
[04:02:53] to do with their positions around Israel. That is exactly what this is. And if you can't
[04:03:00] see it, I'm sorry, you're being played a fool. Okay? You have to have a little bit more backbone.
[04:03:08] You have to have a little bit more scrutiny in your lives, okay?
[04:03:22] But why does Chuck Schumer support Platner?
[04:03:24] Because at the end of the day, Chuck Schumer is the leader of the Democrats in the Senate.
[04:03:32] Chuck Schumer loves Israel first and foremost.
[04:03:35] Schumer can get away with not supporting openly Zoramumdani for New York mayor, but if Chuck
[04:03:40] Schumer came out and did the Jake Auschwitz loss shit and said, oh, I don't really care if there's
[04:03:46] the Democratic majority, they would probably kill him. Okay. Perverbially, not literally, but
[04:03:53] like Democrats would literally be like enough. That's over. You're done.
[04:03:59] No, it's not because Platinum is white, Chatters. It's not because Platinum is white.
[04:04:05] There are different priorities here. What you can and can't say. Osh is lost can say that because he's in the fucking house of representatives.
[04:04:13] Okay?
[04:04:18] Chuck Schumer can't literally oppose his own potential majority. Are you fucking insane?
[04:04:28] Platner is running for Senate. Chuck Schumer is the leader of the Democrats in the Senate.
[04:04:35] and even then he reluctantly defended it so
[04:04:47] yeah in czar on's case the alternative was qualmo in main the alternative is a republican
[04:04:52] which means the democrats can't take the majority in the senate
[04:05:05] If Pills Mafia was still in the race, you'd hear Chuck Schumer's real opinions on Grand
[04:05:12] Plattener.
[04:05:13] Okay?
[04:05:14] Very arc that is one of redemption, they're willing to continue to back him.
[04:05:30] Here is some of what we heard.
[04:05:32] Does he have a problem at the past? Yes, but I would rather have a redemption story than
[04:05:40] somebody telling you how wonderful they are. How much?
[04:05:45] Well white people love Grand Planner. That's the other side of the story that like there
[04:05:54] is something that they see in him where they see him as like the second coming. I swear
[04:05:59] Word of God. God damn. No, they fucking love the dude. Okay.
[04:06:09] Much research they do, and yet they still make the wrong decision for the people of
[04:06:17] Maine. What I dated, no, but it does play into his character, but we're not looking for
[04:06:29] perfection. We are where we are. We have a Senate that's controlled by the Republicans
[04:06:33] who are-
[04:06:34] They're so locked in. I mean, look, I'm sorry. I do have a lot of respect for the barbers
[04:06:38] and the Debra's. They're so fucking locked in. This is literally politics. Okay. They're
[04:06:44] like, I don't care. He's a reliable vote. He's a reliable vote against fucking the Republican
[04:06:48] party and Donald Trump and MAGA. Sorry, not gonna happen. That's it. That's literally
[04:06:52] it. At the end of the day, they have a better understanding of politics, real world politics
[04:06:58] then motherfucking alters do okay
[04:07:02] they do they're looking at this and going okay
[04:07:04] who's a reliable vote against donald trump a fucking democrat
[04:07:09] or susan collins
[04:07:13] that's it
[04:07:14] that's the calculation
[04:07:17] you say you don't like grand planner
[04:07:19] you're not gonna eat the year you're subscribing to a potential
[04:07:24] of a republican majority
[04:07:27] in the Senate, a continuation of the Republican majority in the Senate.
[04:07:35] Harm reduction narratives don't work as well when there's a Democrat in charge.
[04:07:46] Harm reduction narratives for the Senate or for Congress as a whole absolutely work, especially
[04:07:54] when the republican president is in charge and molesting the money with
[04:07:59] regular frequency
[04:08:01] and not just molesting the money really but also actively implementing
[04:08:05] fascism in the country
[04:08:13] for many
[04:08:14] i don't think it goes beyond that
[04:08:19] why do maynard support planner despite his flaws he talks a lot about the
[04:08:22] The issues that affect their daily lives, more than half of Maine are struggling to
[04:08:24] afford basic necessities while Susan Collins keeps voting to fund wars overseas.
[04:08:27] People are looking for change.
[04:08:28] When an imperfect candidate offers a path forward, many are willing to take that chance.
[04:08:33] Yes, the beautiful, the beautiful story here for us is not that Graham Platner is a fucking
[04:08:40] hero and he's the best and he's the coolest guy around and he should run for president.
[04:08:46] I'm not saying any of that shit, okay?
[04:08:50] The cool story for us, for the watchers, for the leftists who still believe that we could
[04:08:58] make at least some marginal changes in Congress and maybe make some gains in the process,
[04:09:06] is that when you have a solid foundational policy that centers the working class, you
[04:09:12] develop a tremendous amount of loyalty from the base.
[04:09:18] that causes the base to overlook your very clear personality flaws.
[04:09:26] Does that remind you of perhaps another cult-like leader who did the same thing but for Republicans?
[04:09:38] Which means that he did the same thing with culture war issues and racism and things like that.
[04:09:43] obviously Republicans were not actually looking for someone who was going to be a real fighter for
[04:09:49] the working class on material issues, but instead was looking for someone who would be a fighter
[04:09:55] for the working class on issues such as fomenting racism and dominating the vulnerable, marginalized
[04:10:03] identities that were presented as the real reason for why you're suffering financially.
[04:10:13] FD pointed out, Plano gets way too much national attention while other progressives exist.
[04:10:30] I'm inclined to agree with them.
[04:10:31] I actually, Locke, occasionally, don't necessarily hate that because I think he's fairly strong
[04:10:41] And this actually focuses the attention away from smear jobs that candidates that I'm
[04:10:47] aligned with actually could withstand potentially.
[04:10:51] You know what I mean?
[04:10:53] Like it's good that he's a magnet for all of the Zionist enmity right now.
[04:11:01] He's tanking it.
[04:11:04] Dems from Andrew Howard, new, ladies and gentlemen, he's a guest planner, a leaving fellow Democrats
[04:11:09] an uncomfortable holding pattern until Tuesday's primary. Everyone waiting to see the margin
[04:11:14] with Mills who hasn't campaigned since April. That's insane. She literally dropped out
[04:11:26] and then turned around and was like, actually, we're not dropping out. Never mind. I'm still
[04:11:33] on the ticket.
[04:11:46] Get your licks in now.
[04:11:49] Get your reps in now, Chatters.
[04:11:52] It's gonna get worse.
[04:11:55] You're gonna see a litany of racialized smears that you have never seen since like right
[04:12:05] after 9-11 when Abdul al-Said, insha'Allah, wins the primary.
[04:12:11] And it's not just gonna come from the Republicans, it's gonna come from the exact same Democrats
[04:12:15] that are currently implying that Graham Platner is a rapist, okay?
[04:12:21] I'm letting you know right now,
[04:12:23] if you're not cut out for it on this one,
[04:12:27] if you can't use this as a reliable opportunity
[04:12:32] to gain some experience in dancing
[04:12:36] in these treacherous waters,
[04:12:39] you're gonna get fucked.
[04:12:44] Cause get ready.
[04:12:46] Because one thing that Graham Plattner has, that Abdul El Sayed does not, is a superpower
[04:13:00] in the eyes of the broader electorate.
[04:13:02] And that is, he's white.
[04:13:05] Okay?
[04:13:06] Hey, Sopapa, thank you for the raid.
[04:13:09] Hope you had a good stream
[04:13:16] From just watching part of the stream last night I thought that was the allegations because of how implied that is what he did
[04:13:21] Yeah
[04:13:23] the
[04:13:39] something. Cause inability to even feign averages bullshit, only further proves the fact that
[04:13:47] it's a non-story. Yeah. When I saw Senator White house be like, yeah, I don't give a
[04:13:51] fuck about this story. I was like, Oh, it's done. And then Kirsten Gillibrand too. That's
[04:13:56] what, that's what finalized it for me because Kirsten Gillibrand very famously was the responsible
[04:14:02] party for Al Franken's resignation. The terror jacketing of Zoran. Yeah, I thought Gillibrand's
[04:14:26] statement was a cryptic non-comment like not standing by grand by name. There's another
[04:14:31] Another reason why the smear job is happening, Platinum's a progressive in a swing district.
[04:14:34] If he wins, yes, I already mentioned that as well. It doesn't just stop Trump. It discredits
[04:14:38] the entire center's theory that the party must go right. Remember the bland centers
[04:14:42] them got owned in 2020 in Maine. That same thing is true for Abdullah, Michigan. Both
[04:14:46] parties must see them lose. Remember Mandela Barnes in Wisconsin, the center scum would
[04:14:50] rather lose. I agree. 100%. I like grand Platinum and, and Maddie Glacius is already fucking
[04:14:59] and maneuvering in the direction of being program Platinum so he can set himself up
[04:15:06] to say, oh, I never actually implied that grand Platinum's politics could never win
[04:15:10] in a state like Maine and an unseat a Republican, right?
[04:15:16] Some of them are smart enough to understand what's going on and they're trying to, you
[04:15:20] know, protect their comfortable Synecure.
[04:15:24] are excitedly trying to fuck over the run to prove their priors that the
[04:15:34] proof that the ideological zealotry is actually not zealotry but instead sound
[04:15:40] reasonable analysis that you simply can't be a progressive in a red state or
[04:15:45] uh uh running for a red seat
[04:15:49] Yeah, this internal pole came out that was 4646 is a push pole, I think
[04:16:15] Okay. Of course, Jewish insider immediately jumped on it to be like, see, it's working.
[04:16:23] He's bad. He's bad news, guys.
[04:16:28] Maine sample conducted by GOP Pulsar, Tony Fabrizio from June 1, the third after sexting
[04:16:32] allegations before physical abuse story puts him at 46, 46 grand. Platoners image is cratered
[04:16:38] with his unfavorables nearly doubling.
[04:16:44] Here is how they suggested Grant Plattner in the internal poll.
[04:16:49] The internal poll literally refers to Plattner as a pedophile and they're tied at the same
[04:16:55] numbers at Fabrizio's last poll way back in January.
[04:16:59] Grant Plattner is actively text on a social media website, notorious for sexually preying
[04:17:02] on children.
[04:17:03] This website has been described as a predator's paradise and it's still 46-46.
[04:17:07] Do you fucking understand?
[04:17:14] Yeah, he's actually gaining on Collins post texting scandals sexting scandal
[04:17:36] Yeah, the GOP attack, the GOP and pro-Israel lobby-backed attack against Graham Plattner
[04:17:46] flopped so fucking hard that the Daily Collar has now resorted to saying it was a soft-catching
[04:17:52] kill operation.
[04:17:55] So the Republican method is, they went from, the Republican method went from, oh, Graham
[04:18:01] Platner is a vicious rapist monster implying that he's like a vicious domestic abuser rapist monster to
[04:18:08] actually the New York Times is collaborating with Graham Platner.
[04:18:16] Incredible.
[04:18:22] Let's see how Susan Collins responded to the story.
[04:18:24] You're presumptive challenger in November's election, Graham Platner, another scandal I guess
[04:18:29] you would say coming out in the New York Times yesterday. What's your reaction to it? Have you
[04:18:33] had a chance to read the story and what's the takeaway from you? The allegations in the latest
[04:18:40] story are troubling and I believe that Grand Plattener has a lot of questions to answer.
[04:18:49] Do you think it will cost him votes and should it cost him votes this November?
[04:18:53] Well, that's really up to the people of Maine. That's really up to the people of Maine.
[04:19:00] Dude, first, first debate is over. I'm calling it.
[04:19:05] First debate, Assad numbers. She's going to be shaking like Jell-O up on that stage,
[04:19:11] and everyone is going to be reminded, and Maine is a very old state, by the way. The average voter
[04:19:15] ages I believe 44. And even then, old people don't want to see another old person in charge
[04:19:26] any longer.
[04:19:35] Here is Madeline Dean celebrating her special friends from APAC. Yeah, new Democratic representative.
[04:19:40] They got it. This is one of the nastiest things that the fucking CNN also ZNN does
[04:19:47] Immediately they'll look for any Democrat any apex stooge
[04:19:53] Any apex do they can to come up and be like well his own party is actually opposing him
[04:20:00] Okay, remember they even did this to a much more limited degree when I went to the Delaney facility
[04:20:07] There were counter protesters there. The counter protesters were yelling a bunch of fucking insane shit as we were going back to the hotel room to conduct an interview with Adam Hamawee.
[04:20:17] And immediately, they framed that as, oh, the left is actually opposing Hassan. They love doing this where it's like, it's even your own party hates you, okay?
[04:20:29] Okay, and then the controversy
[04:20:32] The controversy expands beyond that where it's like well, even if his if his own party is opposing him
[04:20:38] How does he have any shot at winning?
[04:20:43] All of the stories that are coming out and the more and more it seems by the hour
[04:20:48] I'm not a voter in Maine, but he has disqualified himself in my eyes
[04:20:52] He is not qualified to be
[04:20:55] Representative a senator
[04:20:57] Uh, we'll see what main does about it. And I know, uh, governor Mills remains on the ballot, but he has disqualified himself. Okay. Do you support grand plattner's candidacy?
[04:21:12] If you're not a main voter who gives a fuck about your opinion, uh, I don't know Benjamin Netanyahu probably gives a fuck about every pro-Israel person's opinion right now
[04:21:20] now. The fact of the most bloodthirsty Zionist mouthpiece from Van Joes, the Federmann are
[04:21:28] running with similar narratives about this tabloid trash should tell you all you need
[04:21:32] to know about it. This is a hit piece motivated by Platinum Strong's stance on cutting aid
[04:21:36] to Israel. Dude, it does worry me a little bit. We're one step removed from some operative
[04:21:49] deploying stingrays on or deploying Pegasus software on fucking oppositional figures devices
[04:21:56] and then scouring through whatever fucking data that they can find to develop another smear.
[04:22:04] And then we're two steps removed from just straight up trying to assassinate people.
[04:22:10] Like literally, what are the last, the only last two things that remain
[04:22:14] at this point is planting shit, going through illegally their devices, their private details,
[04:22:26] their private affairs to find anything they possibly can, and then just outright killing them.
[04:22:44] They're going to use Pegasus on your Faptop, yeah, and they're going to find out that my
[04:22:53] masturbation habits are the most vanilla they've ever seen.
[04:23:04] You know, it's, it's a moment of truth in this party, uh, it's, this is tough, uh, you know,
[04:23:32] I think that I hear people in our party and they're saying, why are we...
[04:23:37] Wow. Another Zionist lapdog saying, this is a crisis in our party. Our party?
[04:23:46] I didn't know... I didn't know the Democrats were also a part of the Likud party,
[04:23:52] which Van Jones is referencing when he says our party. He's not referencing an American party.
[04:24:02] We so tough on our bad guys when the Republicans are so soft on their bad guys and so you know
[04:24:11] that's the kind of stuff when you when you're a parent you're you struggle with that because
[04:24:15] it's like look we're we're running this house we're not running the house across the street
[04:24:19] we're not running the neighbor's house we're running this house and so what bothers me
[04:24:24] about what he's done is not just the thing that he's been reported about him but that
[04:24:29] But his stories just don't hold up.
[04:24:32] He said that he got this stuff under control years ago.
[04:24:35] And some of this stuff is not years ago.
[04:24:38] And people are concerned that there's more to come.
[04:24:40] Look, I don't say to judge anybody, you know, all the work that I've done in prisons, you
[04:24:44] know, I'm a second chance, third chance, fourth chance, a guy.
[04:24:47] When you're on a redemption arc for real, when you've taken real accountability, when
[04:24:51] you actually owned up and you have a track record, or at least you're honest about where
[04:24:54] you are in your process.
[04:24:56] My concern is he tried to polish this thing up.
[04:24:59] to be one way, now I'm not. Well, you better be telling the truth about that, and it seems
[04:25:03] like he's not. And so now this party's got to look in the mirror. Do you want to sign
[04:25:08] off on...
[04:25:09] Yeah, this kind of stuff only draws enmity, by the way. You liberals hear this shit and
[04:25:16] try the desperate attempt to be like, we have no moral standing to oppose Donald Trump,
[04:25:23] the great pedophile redeemer, okay? And they go, fuck you, Van Jones. This doesn't work,
[04:25:32] okay? This does not work, especially for the intended audience, because he's trying to get
[04:25:37] the liberals off the Grand Platinum train, right? You should have never brought up the
[04:25:46] comparisons to the other side, okay? You should have never done that. The biggest mistake is
[04:25:53] to remind liberals in this very moment that the Republican Party exists, okay?
[04:26:03] There is no shot, cuz like you'd have a stronger argument potentially if you were to just keep
[04:26:11] Keep it at his own moral failings or something.
[04:26:14] But the moment that you remind liberals that the opposition exists and we no longer have
[04:26:19] a fucking moral standing, that's what he's saying.
[04:26:22] Our party, we no longer have a moral standing.
[04:26:26] Liberals are gonna hear that and go, who's we, motherfucker, are you speaking French?
[04:26:30] What party are you a part of?
[04:26:36] Donald Trump?
[04:26:40] Donald Trump's party.
[04:26:42] That party.
[04:26:48] The Ken on the Donald Trump standard of behavior, you got some other people who have very bad
[04:26:54] behavior in other party is.
[04:26:56] Okay, good.
[04:26:58] Yeah, that's insane.
[04:27:02] The two reporters on the near trust partners, or a Katie Glick and Lisa Lair are the same
[04:27:05] reporters who described Zoramum Dainese July 2025 win as a spiritual crystal knock.
[04:27:16] I feel like last night's New York City election was also a spiritual crystal knock. It proved
[04:27:20] Jew Hatred is now okay post a Jill Cagman, a Jewish writer and actress who has also
[04:27:24] shared inflammatory content about Muslims in support of Mr. Cuomo.
[04:27:47] She didn't say that she quoted that person to be fair.
[04:27:53] Anyway.
[04:27:55] Yeah, this was apparent, but good of Mandel to confirm it.
[04:28:00] The previous anonymous claim about the tattoo was from the GOP operative according to her friend, Bethany Mandel.
[04:28:04] So this new claim is not backing up another previous claim.
[04:28:07] It's the same one from the same person.
[04:28:09] Bethany says she was trying to tank his campaign and thought it would work, but it didn't.
[04:28:13] So now she's doing this.
[04:28:15] Yeah, Bethany, we should be friends with neo-Nazis Mandel. An incredible beacon of, of, uh, morality.
[04:28:25] Lindsay is love, respected, and trusted by everyone in town who has the pleasure to know
[04:28:29] her. It's telling that Michael finds this concept confusing. She came forward with
[04:28:32] Totemkoff many months ago, naively believing that a non-statute was disqualifying. Unfortunately,
[04:28:36] that was a bridge too far, much to our dismay. That was not a bridge too far.
[04:28:41] Yeah, Graham Plattner should have instead said not nuking these fucking animals is the only restraint I expect and that's only because the cloud would hurt Israelis and then the media class would deem him acceptable.
[04:28:56] That's what fucking Bethany Mandel said.
[04:29:00] In 2014 by the way.
[04:29:11] Why has an AOC waited into the primary?
[04:29:22] She has a much higher standard for who she openly endorses and associates herself with.
[04:29:29] And I like to think in my headcanon that it's because she considers Grant Platner to be
[04:29:33] a revisionist and not a true socialist and not a true communist.
[04:29:37] And that's why.
[04:29:38] and a grand planner after these messages came out, these sexually explicit messages they sent to women.
[04:29:44] You know, I haven't waited into that primary. I don't believe the primary has occurred yet.
[04:29:50] So I would kind of, you know, again, I don't wait in on that. I haven't waited in that way.
[04:29:56] Yeah, as a as a Maoist she does not like the the Khrushchevite era of
[04:30:08] destalinization that Graham Platner backed. That's what it is I think.
[04:30:16] ASC's wait-and-see approach and over-the-gain remunerations with Platner is a
[04:30:19] larger problem for her. If she wants to run in 2020, she's gonna look like Comma
[04:30:21] Ayers 2.0 and I'm not speaking ideologically about her approach. I
[04:30:24] I mean, she's made some pretty fucking solid bets so far. So I'm gonna, I'm not gonna hold her to it. Yeah
[04:30:32] She should not weigh in on that race. She shouldn't even step in a state bordering main before the election
[04:30:37] Yeah, there's no reason for her to do that
[04:30:45] I normally I'm very critical of AOC's lack of endorsement on races. This is not one of those races
[04:30:54] After Chevalier's news conference, two questions were reported about her own super PAC support,
[04:31:01] old social posts, empathizing with Vladimir Putin. Oh God, what a fucking insane way to
[04:31:05] frame that question. Her appearance at a DSA rally before October 7 attacks, a day after
[04:31:10] October 7 attacks that Mayor Mimdani avoided and that Brad Lander disavowed. My queen,
[04:31:19] I cannot stress this enough. I love Dario Lisa and I love Claire so much. Okay. I'm just
[04:31:28] going to point this. I'm going to keep saying it over and over again. They are incredible.
[04:31:34] Okay. I haven't felt this excited about supporting candidates. Like Zoran was the appetizer.
[04:31:43] Okay. I need you to understand something. Zoran Kwame Mamdani was the motherfucking appetizer.
[04:31:51] Okay. Maybe a mozzarella stick or two. Okay. These guys are the fucking meal. Okay. They are
[04:32:03] the main dish. Straight up.
[04:32:07] Brother, he's a boneless wing, sure. Sure. Zoran simply opened the door for a total
[04:32:25] communist to go over New York City. Yeah. Yeah, he's not, he's like, I don't even want to put
[04:32:31] these guys in the same category, okay? Chris Rabb is another one too, like Gems. Gems that
[04:32:38] I never thought I would see in Congress. Gems that I never thought I would hear from in
[04:32:48] a position of power.
[04:32:49] And now we are close.
[04:32:54] Do you guys understand?
[04:32:57] Do you understand for years, I've had to sit around and be like, first of all, self-described
[04:33:04] socialists even, right?
[04:33:06] I've had to sit around and expect politicians to come out with statements about American
[04:33:17] foreign policy that's critical for years. For years, it was Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib,
[04:33:24] and that's it, okay? Sure, AOC is very good on the legislative track, on the legislative
[04:33:31] side, absolutely. But as far as like being a, being the tip of the spear and communicating
[04:33:45] about American imperialism in critical terms. I did not expect that. I never expect that
[04:33:52] from ASEAN. Take the foot out of your mouth, Uncle. Wait, what? Ranking people is capitalistic.
[04:34:08] There are genuinely for the like, is this, you know what I ask myself sometimes I'm like,
[04:34:14] Is this how fucking like neo liberals feel all the time when there's another like cookie cutter?
[04:34:19] I don't know navy air force drone pilot lesbian woman. That's like running on
[04:34:25] um
[04:34:26] Running on nuking medicare for all and and giving you like maybe incremental improvements
[04:34:31] Like is this is this how they feel when they're like, oh, there's a
[04:34:35] candidate that I identify with ideologically perfectly
[04:34:39] Is this how they fucking feel because it's a new feeling. It's a new feeling for me
[04:34:44] It's a totally new feeling for me where I'm like, wow, a candidate that actually is critical
[04:34:52] of American foreign entanglements.
[04:34:54] That's a feeling that I have not felt.
[04:35:07] Like do you think, do you think neoliberal centrists are like, oh my God, Elisa Slopkin,
[04:35:14] oh, God, love her to pieces, oh my God, a girl boss like Abigail Spamburger, oh, I cannot
[04:35:23] wait for her to veto progressive initiatives that the state legislatures advance in her
[04:35:32] state.
[04:35:33] gonna be sick. $15 minimum wage. Uh, no, thank you. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You, you wanted,
[04:35:47] you wanted childcare. Uh, no, you're not getting that because what else do you want? A unicorn,
[04:35:53] you know, that type of shit. Like, is that how they feel? Because that's gotta be a good
[04:36:00] ass feeling you gotta you gotta have a level of gluttony to just like get so
[04:36:05] used to constantly having cookie cutter neo liberals who constantly say better
[04:36:12] things are not possible and the that's the only type of candidate the party has
[04:36:16] run for the last fucking four decades you know what I mean the only type of
[04:36:23] candidate. Dog hutch called Slopkin a queen. I listened to Potsaver American 2018 and yes,
[04:36:41] that is how they feel. Yeah, well Potsaver American 2026 is like basically,
[04:36:47] basically, uh, basically talking about how, you know, we, we really do need to have some
[04:36:53] communists in the party. I mean, this is getting a little ridiculous. So very different vibes
[04:36:59] over there at the pod, John's John new ad with 600 K behind it, backing Daria Lisa for
[04:37:09] New York and features nor Khalil, Mahmoud Khalil's wife talking about how Adriana Espayat
[04:37:13] Abandoned them when Mahmoud was snatched, Constituent Service Matter.
[04:37:17] This is from the Anti-APAC Super PAC.
[04:37:19] Me and Mahmoud, he's the only person that I have here in New York.
[04:37:24] I was eight months pregnant, preparing for our beautiful baby boy.
[04:37:28] That's when Trump's eyes snatched him away from me.
[04:37:32] Mahmoud's arrest was the start of Trump's mass deportation machine.
[04:37:36] When we asked for help, Congressman Espaillat left me in the dark.
[04:37:40] Dariya Lisa showed up.
[04:37:42] We have to be fighting for a vision and in electing a champion like Daria Lisa, we could
[04:37:47] have exactly that in Congress.
[04:37:49] We in Mahmood.
[04:37:51] Oh, sheesh.
[04:37:53] No notes.
[04:38:02] New York Times, Hochal as Zoran, the back espionage instead of Daria Lisa.
[04:38:06] Oh, yeah.
[04:38:07] No, I saw this.
[04:38:08] galley goldenberg reports another behind the scenes tidbit kathy huckle
[04:38:12] as long as i'm going to back representative espion in recent weeks
[04:38:15] he told her he couldn't
[04:38:16] and a few days later called the letter no he'd be supporting darryl lisa for
[04:38:19] new york instead within a day
[04:38:20] hutchell announced her backing of espion
[04:38:26] this also throws a wrench in the uh... espion camps as statements about how
[04:38:32] uh... zoran had privately told
[04:38:34] espion that he was gonna endorse espion because if that was the case then why
[04:38:38] fucking Kathy Hockel asked, why did Kathy Hockel have to call Zoran personally?
[04:38:48] Because that was the suspicion, right? Espayat tried to imply that Zoran had made a deal with him,
[04:38:54] you know, an endorsement for an endorsement. Anyway, let's see what Dariya Lisa has to
[04:38:58] withstand now. Espayat doing for APAC money. So the question to you, what are you doing for the
[04:39:03] the money that's going to support you from Sam Marouk, also a very rich guy from Texas.
[04:39:09] His super PAC. I'm not sure. You don't know Sam Marou and the super PAC he funds American
[04:39:16] priorities that supporting your campaign. I learned about that super PAC through the
[04:39:20] New York Times, the money that was being spent there again. I don't coordinate with any super
[04:39:25] PACs. So you're not going to do anything for that money the way you're accusing SBI
[04:39:29] of doing a tax bidding again if anyone is donating or participating in this campaign in any way shape
[04:39:34] or form it's because they believe in the values of this campaign it's so funny because they're like
[04:39:50] god chris behaving like a political up here oh he always does come on man chris sommerfeld
[04:39:54] like no diss, but I provided a via Chevrolet's campaign with a copy of the tweet of the question
[04:40:01] yesterday morning. So she definitely has some time to review the context. Yeah. No, knives
[04:40:08] are out, knives are out, knives are out. But that's good. It's not bad because remember,
[04:40:13] look, I'm not tooting my own horn here at all. Because like I said, always it's up to the candidates.
[04:40:19] If they have the solid fundamentals, they will win. I can only fucking aid
[04:40:24] in in the media attention potentially, or we can also go out and seemingly from what I've gotten
[04:40:30] back from other campaigns that I've worked with. When we do rallies together, when we do this kind
[04:40:36] of stuff, like there are a lot of fucking door knockers, right? Like they see an increase in
[04:40:40] excitement and and advocates door knockers in general fundraising and whatnot, small dollar
[04:40:48] donations. Daria Lisa was not getting the shine that she deserves for quite a while, okay?
[04:41:00] Now she is. That means that the machine has perceived her as a threat. In the past, if
[04:41:09] this race went along unacknowledged, okay, if this race went along unacknowledged, who
[04:41:15] knows which way it would have gone. Now it is being acknowledged. Now there is a lot of attention,
[04:41:23] and of course it's mostly because Zoran endorsed her, obviously. But the reason why I'm bringing
[04:41:29] this up is because, the reason why I'm bringing this up is because the attacks that she is receiving
[04:41:40] now might frustrate you, and you're like, well, she's such a wonderful candidate. Why the fuck
[04:41:43] people attacking her, that's a good thing, okay? That is a good thing, because every attack
[04:41:51] signals one of her positions, right? If they hit her on, like, oh, you said this tweet or that
[04:41:57] tweet, you can, you can just like turn around and use it as an opportunity in the spotlight
[04:42:04] to push for your policies, to push for Adriana Espeyot's inefficiencies, his weaknesses.
[04:42:17] Yeah, she did a radio debate. I know I saw. She did a radio debate on Brian Lehrer at 10 a.m. and
[04:42:24] torched Espeyot. Espeyot ended up lying about a bunch of things in that debate,
[04:42:29] Okay. Including, but not limited to saying that he actually offered support to Mahmood
[04:42:34] Khalil. You would be a dope campaign manager. I would be an awful campaign manager. No,
[04:42:47] I would not be a good campaign manager. I am nowhere near crazy enough to be able to
[04:42:52] do that shit. Yeah. The October 8th rally attack is so stupid. Yeah. One of the, one
[04:42:58] One of the lines of attack that she's been on the receiving end of is the fact that she
[04:43:02] was right, but too early.
[04:43:04] And I find that to be a very strange line of attack, especially when the overwhelming
[04:43:08] majority's opinion at this stage, especially in the Democratic party's primaries, but across
[04:43:14] the board, even in the general, is that everybody's like, oh yeah, Israel's dog shit.
[04:43:21] So it is pretty funny, it is pretty funny that they are saying, oh, Daria Liza was right
[04:43:35] on the Israel issue and did not wait for the majority to shift to arrive at her conclusions
[04:43:43] about, you know, about Israel's activity, its misconduct, its war crimes, its genocide.
[04:43:54] That is the best line of attack, okay?
[04:43:59] There is, in races like this one, there is not a better line of attack to show that you
[04:44:05] are morally consistent on a 90-10 issue, okay?
[04:44:11] And that's part of the reason why they're trying to literally, uh, hit this with like,
[04:44:15] Oh, isn't there an inconsistency between you and Zoran Zoran didn't attend this rally.
[04:44:22] Brad Lander disavowed the DSA for participating in this rally, blah, blah, blah.
[04:44:26] Bullshit doesn't fucking matter.
[04:44:29] Okay.
[04:44:30] The October 8th rally, Jeff Colton says was too soon and too controversial for New York
[04:44:35] City DSA, which is not true, by the way, they're just flat out fucking lying.
[04:44:41] City DSA did participate in the rally.
[04:44:45] Every socialist elected official, including Zahram Mhamdani, avoided it, but Dari Elisa
[04:44:48] Avila Chevalier, then relatively unknown, was there.
[04:44:53] As a premature anti-fascism is not a real critique.
[04:45:09] I get why many on the left see this as a, see an article in the mainstream press
[04:45:12] about Darry Lee's, his Palestinian solidarity and assuming it's a hit piece.
[04:45:15] But this story is really about the tensions within mom dining's coalition
[04:45:18] between liberals on this and anti-zionists.
[04:45:20] Well, let me tell you something.
[04:45:22] There is no tension.
[04:45:24] Okay.
[04:45:25] And Brad Lander is smart enough not to make this a, a moment of tension.
[04:45:30] That's it.
[04:45:32] There's no tension between Zoran and Darry Lee's on this issue, not even a little
[04:45:36] bit, because once again, she's on the right side of this issue. And there is no attention
[04:45:42] on the Brad Lander side because that would only make him look bad. So why the fuck would
[04:45:48] he actually come out and be like, yeah, it was really fucked up that Darryl is a, attended
[04:45:52] a protest that I, like, why would he remind people that he might have left the DSA because
[04:46:02] of the October 8 rally participation. So, yeah, there's no real tension at all.
[04:46:18] Regardless of what Peter Stern says here, and he is obviously the most tapped in with
[04:46:23] New York City DSA-related issues, but I don't think that there is any real tension here.
[04:46:31] the only person that would like bring up the salience of this issue could be Brad
[04:46:37] Lander and that would make him look bad especially after they did this you know
[04:46:44] Zoran Slate ad with you know Zoran's picks for Congress ad you know and the on the
[04:46:50] next game so
[04:47:05] I'm not sure what the context of those comments was coming from I do not remember
[04:47:10] what the context of those tweets in 2022 are I'm again I'm interested again I'm
[04:47:14] Are you the gentrifier's candidate?
[04:47:16] Are you the candidate for the gentrifier's of the district?
[04:47:19] Oh my god, they're fucking everyone is just...
[04:47:22] Like, what is this from the New York Post?
[04:47:24] Like, who's fucking asking these questions?
[04:47:27] Guys.
[04:47:29] Dial it back.
[04:47:31] You know, that's crazy.
[04:47:37] Dial it the fuck back.
[04:47:39] I am a reporter from Israel. Yeah, like this is it's so funny that they're just right out
[04:47:54] of the gates. As soon as it became a problem, as soon as it became a problem for, for, you
[04:48:01] You know, Adriana Espayat, Apex guy, they're literally going fucking crazy.
[04:48:10] Speaking of Israeli plans, Trump just said he wants to take a government stake in leading
[04:48:13] AI companies.
[04:48:14] It's coming on the heels of my acrimony talking about AGC going directly to AI companies about
[04:48:17] Jewish advocacy solutions.
[04:48:18] Yeah, I saw.
[04:48:20] Yeah, knives are out, knives are out.
[04:48:27] I'm not sure. Listen, I am somebody who has been organizing here in this district for over 14 years.
[04:48:33] I'm someone who has been with New Yorkers on the hardest days of their lives,
[04:48:36] and I have felt the abandonment of the leadership that we've had for a very long time.
[04:48:41] If, you know, the incumbent wants to complain about the changing demographics of this district,
[04:48:46] I'll remind him that that is the result of the leadership that he has shown over the last nine years.
[04:48:50] Can you explain why you attended the rally on October 8th in Times Square that considered the attack by Hamas in Israel and were taking 251 hostages, including children, as resistance?
[04:49:03] Several other politicians, local elected officials, including Zoran Mondani, decided not to attend the very day after what many people thought was a horrific war crime.
[04:49:14] Why did you attend that rally on October 8th?
[04:49:17] Listen, like so many other rallies, sometimes there are people there who share a different view from you.
[04:49:23] I have always condemned the celebration of the loss of life.
[04:49:27] That is not a view I share.
[04:49:29] That said, I was at this rally because I have always,
[04:49:33] someone who has followed the issues that happen in the region,
[04:49:37] I have seen a pattern in which whenever there is an incident,
[04:49:41] the State of Israel engages in a response that is often disproportionate
[04:49:47] and and creates a greater loss of life. And that was what that is what I was there
[04:49:51] to stand against. Did you condemn the October 7th attacks at that rally on
[04:49:56] October?
[04:49:58] Listen, I listen, I was there again. I'm giving my response as to why I was
[04:50:04] there. I've condemned him off. I've told you that I do not believe that
[04:50:08] celebrating the loss of anybody's life is okay.
[04:50:12] And that's where I stand on that. All right, thank you. Andrew said it was
[04:50:17] 2026 dude. This would be a good time for I said what I said. I'm Donny back house
[04:50:25] can and Daria Lisa Avila Chevrolet refuse to answer a past social media post.
[04:50:29] So what's the fucking Russia post? What did she say?
[04:50:40] What was it? Well, what did she say?
[04:50:47] I mean, no one gives a fuck, but I just wanna know.
[04:50:56] Her sympathizing with Putin, I'd look more at her actual writings from colleges and military
[04:51:00] assault on Ukraine has caused a European refugee crisis of a magnitude not seen since World
[04:51:03] War II.
[04:51:04] The present situation in Ukraine should be caused for great concern for all.
[04:51:10] Since then in a deleted tweet suggested that the US shared at least some blame for Russia's
[04:51:14] and be echoing a Putin talking point. It's right. This kind of shit doesn't work, man.
[04:51:21] It's like literally when you say Israel's bad and they're like, well, Hamas says that
[04:51:25] too. Okay. Well, it's still true. I don't give a fuck. Oh, wow. I guess, I guess you're
[04:51:32] in agreement with Yahya Sinwar. It's like, okay, well, yeah, he was right to say that
[04:51:38] the Israeli occupation is a deadly endeavor for Palestinians. What do you want me to
[04:51:42] say. I'm gonna give a fuck. Literally mainstream international relations analysis from both
[04:51:54] conservative and liberal analysts, yeah. It's so stupid. Yeah, she's a mershimer head.
[04:52:05] Now it does work in the Westwood lives and even a lot of progressives. I don't even think liberals are dare any longer
[04:52:15] I'll be honest
[04:52:21] Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know people people still yell at me all the time
[04:52:25] They'll always be like, oh dude, you fucking love Vladimir Putin, but
[04:52:30] To a much lesser degree nowadays, I think
[04:52:35] What is this?
[04:52:58] This is when people say listen to.
[04:53:00] At this point, at least in the West, there's much more dehumanization and demonization
[04:53:05] of his release and there is a Palestinians. I love this guy, dude. John Aziz, my goat,
[04:53:14] Mr. Peace advocate. Yeah. Thanks, John. Thanks for the insight, John. Great take, by the
[04:53:26] way. All right. We're moving on from the grand planner, Grady Platt, Grady Plattie.
[04:53:34] Oh my god, more grady-platy, I'm skipping all of it.
[04:53:43] This morning the Senate narrowly voting to approve a $70 billion immigration enforcement
[04:53:48] package without any measure to block President Trump's $1.8 billion so-called anti-weaponization
[04:53:54] fund.
[04:53:55] Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski, the lone Republican, voting against the bill, which now heads to
[04:54:00] the House for approval.
[04:54:01] For more than 18 hours, Democrats and some Republicans introduced measures to rein in
[04:54:05] the fund, aimed at compensating President Trump's allies, possibly even the rioters
[04:54:10] who attacked police officers on January 6th.
[04:54:14] All of those efforts failed.
[04:54:16] For weeks, acting attorney general Todd Blanche defended the fund, but after a firestorm of
[04:54:20] criticism, he testified it had been dropped.
[04:54:24] Still President Trump did not commit.
[04:54:26] are trusting the word of Todd Blanche, who built a career on lying, that the administration
[04:54:33] will just drop this slush fund.
[04:54:35] The president is now expected to nominate Blanche, his former personal attorney, to
[04:54:38] leave the Department of Justice.
[04:54:40] Well, you're going to make him permanent Attorney General.
[04:54:43] But he could face a difficult road ahead.
[04:54:44] Do you think all the hard times need to come to terms?
[04:54:47] Hard to say.
[04:54:50] At least two Republicans have not publicly committed to supporting Blanche in this effort.
[04:54:55] Now, something that also could complicate this entire process, former Attorney General
[04:54:58] Pam Bonney testified behind closed doors that it was Blanche that oversaw the handling
[04:55:03] and the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, which we know did prompt some bipartisan criticism
[04:55:09] over on Capitol Hill, Rebecca.
[04:55:10] Yeah, very hot button issue there.
[04:55:11] Okay, Rachel, thank you.
[04:55:13] The problems piling up for Democrats in New York City as well were a mom Donny back candidate
[04:55:17] for Congress now being exposed for her shocking views of America and her views of fellow Democrats.
[04:55:24] The New York Post and covering now deleted, so again, not bad, very good.
[04:55:32] Not bad, very good.
[04:55:36] And then after this, we'll, we'll move on.
[04:55:39] After this, we'll move on to, uh, uh, the better Hasan duking it out with Patrick, but
[04:55:46] David, okay.
[04:55:48] Oh, before I move on from that, though.
[04:55:54] that this has been revealed. New Abdullah al-sayed internal poll by Tulsa research share with
[04:55:59] me finds Abdullah al-sayed widely ahead. Al-sayed at 41%. Stevens at 23. McMorrow at 18%.
[04:56:24] Yeah, also, the United Auto Workers this morning endorsed Abdel El Sayed for U.S.
[04:56:31] Senate in Michigan. You already knew, maybe, maybe I knew about this already.
[04:56:38] Who knows? Maybe I didn't. What matters is you know. What matters is now you know.
[04:56:54] Okay. Folks, I'll be entering Mallory McMarrow today on the steam age streamage around 12 p.m.
[04:57:06] When was this? This already happened?
[04:57:11] Do it. I'd say that does the trick. That'll do it. Yeah, that'll do it. Yeah, I'd say that'll do it.
[04:57:19] Yeah, I'd say that would do it.
[04:57:24] I'm
[04:57:31] going to be honest, this is over a thing.
[04:57:47] I'm gonna be honest, this is over, I think. Did the UAW know about this before they foolishly
[04:58:02] decided to endorse Abdul Al Sayed, who's very clearly probably going to resign? He's probably
[04:58:11] going to concede right now. I'm confused. They're saying it's Mallory McMorrow over.
[04:58:26] I guess they are not aware, just like I wasn't aware that Hutch interviewed Mallory McMoroll.
[04:58:41] Um, yeah.
[04:58:47] I prefer these guys trying to do actual politics than obsessing over your vods.
[04:58:50] Okay, that's actually fair.
[04:58:52] No, no, that's, that's, you know what, you're right. I'm glad, I'm glad Hutch took the time
[04:59:03] out of his day, his busy schedule, covering me and demanding people vote for Jeffrey Epstein
[04:59:12] instead of me to turn around and actually do real political coverage for once, which
[04:59:20] I suspect his audience was shocked by they were like wait, what do you mean you're why
[04:59:24] are you not pouring over every tweet made by a Hassan hater?
[04:59:33] I'm so confused.
[04:59:34] Well, who is this woman?
[04:59:37] They probably were saying, what is the Democratic Party that you speak of?
[04:59:41] I only know politics as beginning and ending at Hassan's misadventures.
[04:59:48] Why are you not playing a Hassan Vod?
[04:59:51] Why are you talking about anything but politics?
[04:59:56] Politics is supposed to be about disparaging Hassan.
[05:00:16] I have normie friends in Michigan asking me about Abdul already exited for him, excited
[05:00:21] for him to be independent, my influence?
[05:00:27] Anyway, yeah that was a huge thing, the UAW endorsement, it's a double whammy too, it's
[05:00:41] a real fucking double whammy.
[05:00:44] Here's why.
[05:00:45] Mallory McMorrow worked in the automobile industry.
[05:00:52] And the person that was probably most likely
[05:00:56] to get it over Mallory McMorrow was Haley Stevens.
[05:01:00] Okay?
[05:01:01] Because Haley Stevens has basically made her
[05:01:03] entire campaign, designed her entire campaign
[05:01:07] around a love letter to Michigan.
[05:01:10] Okay?
[05:01:11] I love later to Michigan and there's nothing more Michigan than the UAW.
[05:01:28] McMorris no longer in contention, there's only one electable candidate left in the race
[05:01:31] and their name is Abdul El Sayed.
[05:01:34] Falcon 6 pack, thank you for the 20 gifted subs.
[05:01:41] Yeah, Schumer privately backs Hailey Stevens in Michigan Senate primary. I mean, this is
[05:01:48] an old article. Wait, it's not. It's a new article. What the fuck? Chuck Schumer, the
[05:01:53] Democratic minority leaders remain officially neutral on the race, but in conversation with
[05:01:57] donors, he has been clear about which candidate he supports. We know that already. This isn't
[05:02:01] new information. I guess he's just doing another push behind the scenes, but the reason why
[05:02:06] he's privately endorsing Haley Stevens is not because he doesn't want to pick favorites.
[05:02:11] It's because he knows that his endorsement actually carries the opposite version of weight.
[05:02:16] It is weight, but in the opposite direction.
[05:02:23] But we've known that already. They're both stooges for APAC. So anyway, in terms of the scale of
[05:02:30] this lead, the polls and outlier, but directionally, it is in line with other surveys showing
[05:02:34] else I had surging ever since third way made Israel pass on a major issue in the race.
[05:02:38] Paul finds Stevens edging out McMoron for a second with the August 4th primary approaching.
[05:02:43] Take any individual poll with a grain of salt, particularly internal, but
[05:02:46] culture research is legit and the trend line is consistent. Paul was commissioned by a newly
[05:02:51] formed progressive coalition. They'll be backing outside Helm by Hannah Fertig and Connor Ferrell.
[05:02:57] I just want to give a quick shout out the third way. My favorite ops. We probably still
[05:03:10] would have gotten it there, but you've certainly aided and abetted and helped tremendously.
[05:03:18] because once again, Abdul Al Sayed is a stud, okay? Abdul Al Sayed is a fantastic candidate,
[05:03:29] okay? Fantastic. He's got the fundamentals. But Abdul Al Sayed had a problem. He wasn't
[05:03:39] getting the looks, the looks that he absolutely deserve to get.
[05:03:47] Okay.
[05:03:54] Third way solve that problem.
[05:03:59] And I guess in some ways it is actually, uh, Abdul also being lucky in some
[05:04:06] ways and not, uh, not really seeing that there would be like a media shit storm that would
[05:04:12] surround him asking me to stump with him.
[05:04:16] But it absolutely worked out.
[05:04:19] Okay.
[05:04:20] Cause he hit me out when he said, Oh, will you stump with me?
[05:04:24] I never thought that we would be going on this fucking journey.
[05:04:27] Okay.
[05:04:28] I did not think.
[05:04:31] I did not think that this would lead to unlimited media coverage since the first moment that
[05:04:42] I stepped foot in Lansing, Michigan.
[05:04:46] From that point on, the midterms arc began in this community.
[05:04:58] a parachuted in there.
[05:04:59] Why didn't you think it would lead to unlimited coverage?
[05:05:04] Well, here's the reason why I didn't think, I didn't think it would lead to unlimited
[05:05:07] coverage.
[05:05:08] And there's obviously a lot of things that he did right in the process, like he didn't
[05:05:12] fucking drop me or admit guilt in any way, shape, or form, because he wasn't guilty of
[05:05:17] anything.
[05:05:18] Obviously, a lot of that also worked and it also raised the salience of the issue around
[05:05:24] Israel-Palestine, one that certainly favors Abdu'l-Sahed's position and mine.
[05:05:36] Having said that, however, the reason why I didn't think it would be this big of a problem is because
[05:05:46] I didn't think that it was exceptional. Like, I just thought, you know, it's business as usual.
[05:05:54] I've already, I've already collabed with Abdul. I've been the dearborn with them. You know,
[05:05:58] I didn't think that's stumping for him and doing rallies would actually be in any way shape or form
[05:06:04] different than what I had done prior. The media had a very different approach to that story. They
[05:06:19] where they were like, nope, this is different. Very, very different actually. How dare you, right?
[05:06:40] Be honest, were you worried at all? No. Remember, people ask me all the time. They were like,
[05:06:45] don't you feel that was one of the questions that I had to answer all the time from the
[05:06:51] media. What do you, what do you think about your influence on this campaign? Don't you feel like
[05:06:54] you could be a negative though? Do you feel like you could be a burden on this campaign?
[05:06:58] And what did I say? I was like, look, I have my positions.
[05:07:04] I'm, I'm, you know, proud to stand by, I'll build side.
[05:07:09] And not only that, but also this is a 90-10 issue.
[05:07:15] If our opposition chooses to, you know, place themselves voluntarily on the unpopular side of a 90-10 issue, then, yeah, great.
[05:07:26] That'll be good for me. That'll be good for the candidates that I endorse and work with.
[05:07:34] Social media posts.
[05:07:37] You are the most clueless person about your importance.
[05:07:40] importance. I think you guys over emphasize the level of motion I have, but it's fine.
[05:07:47] It's from Daria Lisa Avalos Chevalier. One calls the United States an effing disgrace.
[05:07:53] Another says to F Kamala Harris. Here now, Dan Cannon, former Battleground State Director
[05:07:58] for the Harris-Waltz campaign, and Alex Sawyer, editor-at-large for the Washington Times.
[05:08:04] So Chevalier tried to hide all of this. We could go to the rug, whatever you want to
[05:08:07] it by deleting her twitter x account but as we know the internet is forever you
[05:08:12] can dig all this stuff up she also called for abolishing the police
[05:08:15] abolishing ice abolishing prisons and deportations where we find these
[05:08:20] candidates Dan oh there's a period of time I hear other people are saying
[05:08:23] whoever was under stream loss are they dumb or what no they're just I mean they
[05:08:27] are dumb but they're also hateful their whole their whole worldview does not
[05:08:31] revolve around like advancing any sort of significant interest beyond attacking
[05:08:37] me. You're talking about like Asmongoles. They don't have any politics. They're just
[05:08:45] pure reactionaries and sometimes not even reactionary towards a political ideology,
[05:08:49] but instead reactionary towards what I'm doing.
[05:08:59] It has been funny though because there was a misattribution of candidates that have been on my
[05:09:04] stream, if you're ramen for mayor, Los Angeles mayor and Tom Steyer for California governor.
[05:09:14] I never endorsed them and I did not do rallies with them, right? There's like a,
[05:09:19] you know, there's varying degrees of, of my involvement with some of these candidates, right?
[05:09:26] But what's actually kind of funny with all these new dumps coming in, and perhaps what
[05:09:37] we previously thought was California may still remain, and what I mean by that is because
[05:09:46] all of these fucking dumps that are coming out show that Tom Starr is still in the running
[05:09:54] And Nithya Raman actually has a really good shot at taking the second place spot,
[05:10:00] which would imply that all of these other, uh, you know,
[05:10:04] articles that were written about how all the candidates that appeared on my
[05:10:07] stream lost would end up
[05:10:13] inadvertently giving me clout that I don't even deserve.
[05:10:24] It's so funny because I I didn't I mean I'll take credit for their victories I guess
[05:10:33] but I
[05:10:35] Had nothing to do with it really
[05:10:54] Is it true that you mom Donnie and Trump are going to or was it a half time a game three?
[05:11:02] Yes.
[05:11:03] But yeah, just so you know, just so you understand, even if Nithya Raman ends up securing the
[05:11:13] second slot, second place and pushes out Spencer Pratt, which would be great.
[05:11:21] I don't want to see the suspense ever again. Uh, and Tom Steyer pushes out Hilton and
[05:11:27] it's a, uh, the Republicans are iced out of these, uh, these races.
[05:11:37] If you think my haters are going to turn around and be like, Oh, my bad, actually every, uh,
[05:11:41] every person that was on a stream with the exception of Shoycott actually won their
[05:11:44] raises, you're fucking delusional. They're just going to move on and be like, we always
[05:11:47] new, Hasan had nothing to do with it. Because again, if they lose, it's because of me. If
[05:11:54] they win, it's in spite of me. Because these people don't have real politics.
[05:12:01] I don't.
[05:12:06] Yeah.
[05:12:11] Did you get converted?
[05:12:21] Yannis install was the Greek conversion therapy to the Sompiker.
[05:12:25] That would be an incredible matchup.
[05:12:28] I
[05:12:36] Am I missing something is Pratt done. No
[05:12:40] Stars getting excellent drops around the Bay Area many of these counties had not reported late mail batches yet
[05:12:44] So comparisons are limited, but they are starting very blue
[05:12:47] Alameda hit his benchmark on its first drop in San Francisco moved in his direction
[05:12:53] Yeah
[05:12:55] Things are looking better and better
[05:13:04] Well, as Janice Varfakis tells us on PyGrid to get ready to run in two years
[05:13:15] Excellent drop for Steyr in Alameda posting a 16 point net gain over Hilton and pulling within a point of Becerra
[05:13:21] Just a day ago. He's running third there
[05:13:23] another stire drop yeah from two minutes ago you know who doesn't have to
[05:13:30] worry about these sorts of drops tell me there and in South Dakota there's a man
[05:13:39] so rotund there's a man so large you've never seen anything like it and no I'm
[05:13:48] I'm not talking about that filthy cattle,
[05:13:51] Thieve Randy John, Dusty Johnson.
[05:13:54] I'm talking about Toby Deriden, real people's governor.
[05:14:00] Terri Deriden, he's sat decoder.
[05:14:03] He's gonna close up that border wall with North Decoder.
[05:14:07] Real quick.
[05:14:09] All right.
[05:14:12] Toby motherfucking Deriden.
[05:14:13] I like to think about him on days
[05:14:16] where I'm being attacked unjustly
[05:14:18] And I think to myself, what would Terri Baderden do?
[05:14:23] Well, I know what Dusty Johnson would do.
[05:14:26] That yellow belly coward, Dusty Johnson.
[05:14:30] That wily coyote.
[05:14:35] They'd give up, but Tobah never gives up.
[05:14:39] Tobah believes in himself.
[05:14:42] And that's why Tobah was able to make it to South Dakota.
[05:14:48] He's able to save sad decoder.
[05:14:54] God damn it does the Johnson.
[05:15:06] If Hilton loses, this will be why we now have Riverside County
[05:15:09] precinct results available on California Governor,
[05:15:11] precinct Matt Bianco is currently carrying majority of
[05:15:14] precincts across the inland empire portion of Riverside
[05:15:16] County.
[05:15:18] Yeah, we're not around these parts. We don't support does the Johnson and we don't support Larry rodin
[05:15:29] We only support one man and one man only his name is terry Dyrton
[05:15:33] Biden's trying to rat fuck Toby Durden. Joe Biden endorses three statewide candidates in
[05:15:48] South Dakota as he heads there for a state party funds. God dammit Joe Biden. How dare
[05:15:55] How dare you, how dare you come after my rotund boy like that?
[05:16:03] You better be endorsing Toby Durden, the cross-party lies Biden.
[05:16:14] Fact check from Toby Durden.
[05:16:16] I beat Rodin everywhere. Southeast I won Larry's destroying our economy and
[05:16:20] has done nothing to support the business community.
[05:16:23] tax-raising road in
[05:16:28] Northeast I won Larry supports the use of eminent domain for private gain
[05:16:34] He browbeat every single legislator and attempt to keep summit carbon solutions coming after your land and I hate that
[05:16:42] West River I won Larry calls himself a rancher
[05:16:47] But he is truly just a low energy third year career politician.
[05:16:52] Are you a rancher if you support lab grown meat?
[05:16:56] I'm Toby Durden and even the thought of lab grown meat makes me want to vomit.
[05:17:02] Only real, stop the coating cattle for me please.
[05:17:07] I would never in a million years ever consume lab grown meat.
[05:17:17] Then then you everyone for your amazing support on Tuesday.
[05:17:22] What a dominating show of support.
[05:17:25] I look forward to uniting our amazing Republican party and getting to work on
[05:17:29] your agenda.
[05:17:30] God bless.
[05:17:32] I'm Tobid Darden and I've proved his message. How does one get his body to be this shape?
[05:17:49] Dude, there are so many beautiful characters in the American tapestry. Okay? Like, I am,
[05:17:59] Of course, thinking of Steven Chung, my fave, he is, he has a very special place in my heart.
[05:18:05] Obviously, Donald Trump has a beautiful shape as well.
[05:18:08] And Toby Durden is now one of those big boys that I like.
[05:18:12] OK. What a unique build.
[05:18:21] It's incredible.
[05:18:23] Hogs come in all different sizes and shapes and colors.
[05:18:27] And this one is a great shape.
[05:18:29] Okay
[05:18:37] That's right, that's great AB brother FDA approved except FDA is FD gay more like FDA. No way
[05:18:46] Fall out my way inside the coder all fucking end FDA approval
[05:18:52] No more homosexual Marxist mate
[05:18:55] Wait. That's what I like to think about. I like to think that that's what Tobi Durdin
[05:19:02] is talking about and thinking about in his private moments.
[05:19:06] Anyway, calcium pie market have been sponsoring posts from user promoting viral LA election
[05:19:15] fraud conspiracy theories. They're stealing it, aren't they? Break. Wait, what? After
[05:19:24] We asked about the post on Thursday cast spokesperson told me this afternoon that it asked several users to remove them
[05:19:28] We've asked these to be taken down as we as they violate our affiliate marketing policies
[05:19:33] Polymarket didn't respond when I asked about the paid via election fraud post
[05:19:36] I also reached out some influencers asking if they think poly market should refund Pratt voters who traded on the LA election
[05:19:41] Since there was also fraudulent. Sadly. No one has responded. That's a great question for max
[05:19:47] Thanks.
[05:19:48] God, they're fucking, they're so corrupt, dude.
[05:19:59] They're so unbelievably corrupt.
[05:20:01] What the fuck are we doing, man?
[05:20:03] Gunther Eagleman, Matt Von Swoll, paid partnership for Cal-Z, talking about how this is a stolen
[05:20:09] election.
[05:20:11] One minute ago in Nevada County, Tom Steyer, 28% up nine, that a good drop. I don't even
[05:20:20] know. I don't even know what these fucking numbers mean.
[05:20:24] Chalci, you've been running as on Facebook plus Instagram earlier today, encouraging people
[05:20:31] to place bets on the LA Merrill race, but those haven't been pulled per the meta ad archive.
[05:20:36] The org has spent a lot on metapolitical ads promoting action on this race.
[05:20:42] They're getting more bold dude, they're getting more fucking cra- they're getting more insane.
[05:20:47] Anyway, I'm a numbers guy.
[05:20:52] I'm Flamel Desk and I'm-
[05:20:54] And as a numbers guy, wait what is this?
[05:20:57] I'm Donny on Twitch show talking to people on how Democrats lost focus on workers.
[05:21:01] Okay, I'm skipping all this.
[05:21:04] i think it's time
[05:21:10] and the numbers guy
[05:21:12] and the numbers guy
[05:21:13] ladies and gentlemen
[05:21:15] as a numbers guy
[05:21:17] i gotta say this right now before we get started okay i brought in this brown
[05:21:22] guy is muslim
[05:21:23] his name is mattie hasen
[05:21:25] and as you know i will never have his son piker
[05:21:29] on the stream on the broadcast
[05:21:31] because he
[05:21:32] Will never be able to value tame people. Okay. I only have
[05:21:37] I only have people that are going to value tame people
[05:21:41] Okay, as a numbers guy, i'm going to check she said he is i'm gonna i'm going to grok it
[05:21:48] And i'm never going to clot it. You already know
[05:21:51] Okay
[05:21:52] It turns out this matty housing guy
[05:21:56] He knows a thing or two about the numbers
[05:22:00] okay
[05:22:01] Because throughout this conversation, I was chat you patting it.
[05:22:05] I was grokking it.
[05:22:07] And I was grokking my shit.
[05:22:10] Okay.
[05:22:10] I said, Vinny, help me out.
[05:22:15] It turns out Matthew Hassan knew what the fuck he was talking about.
[05:22:20] Story.
[05:22:20] Okay.
[05:22:20] So tell me your story, your background.
[05:22:23] My background is if the accent didn't give it away.
[05:22:25] I'm a British American, a dual national British American citizen, uh,
[05:22:29] I'm a citizen of both great countries, born and raised in the U.K., my parents, immigrants
[05:22:33] from India, moved to the U.K. in the 60s.
[05:22:36] What part of India?
[05:22:37] South India, Hyderabad.
[05:22:38] Okay.
[05:22:39] Best biryani in the world.
[05:22:40] Best beer?
[05:22:41] Biryani.
[05:22:42] Biryani.
[05:22:43] It's a best beer.
[05:22:44] I'm not going to be the guy who gives you beer.
[05:22:45] Best biryani.
[05:22:46] Okay, got it.
[05:22:47] So I went to Mumbai.
[05:22:48] I went to Mumbai eight years ago and I spoke at IIT Institute.
[05:22:52] Oh yes, big.
[05:22:53] Incredible experience.
[05:22:54] Incredible place.
[05:22:55] But Hyderabad has better food.
[05:22:56] So I have to say that as a Hyderabadi.
[05:22:58] So my parents moved in the 60s and 70s to the UK.
[05:23:00] I was born in 79, I think we're similar in age,
[05:23:04] and I moved to the US 12 years ago, come February.
[05:23:08] So it's been over a decade I've been here.
[05:23:10] Became a citizen in 2020, been a journalist all my life.
[05:23:13] What do you prefer?
[05:23:14] UK or, and I know it was...
[05:23:15] Oh, this is a controversial question.
[05:23:17] Mother, friend, family, they both have their brilliance.
[05:23:24] I go back to the UK all the time.
[05:23:25] I'm heading out there next week.
[05:23:26] I get to go for work and pleasure and I'll flex flex on me, Mary. At least one Hassan is allowed into the UK. Oh, look at me
[05:23:33] Oh, I can go back to the UK with a nilly. Oh, look at me
[05:23:38] This is why I'm the better Hassan
[05:23:41] I'm allowed on the Patrick Bette David broadcast and I'm allowed inside of the boundaries of the United Kingdom
[05:23:47] Oh, I can go anywhere Hassan simply cannot
[05:23:51] Look at me
[05:23:53] going back to the UK. But the US, I've got to say, the US has given me opportunities and
[05:24:00] open doors that even the UK I don't think could have done.
[05:24:03] Really? And I think-
[05:24:04] Wait. Okay, 447,000 views came from the comments and they do not disappoint. This is what happens
[05:24:09] when your training ground is Vinny and Adam. Adam and Vinny, watching from the back like,
[05:24:13] thank God, that's not me today. This was brutal to watch. Patrick, what's your point? I bet
[05:24:17] you Patrick won't listen to the market on this debate. Adam lending Patrick his body
[05:24:21] bag Patrick got owned Adam is gonna sleep like a baby tonight this was almost as bad as Dave Rubin
[05:24:27] shellacking on Jubilee you know what's really funny I genuinely don't understand why these guys
[05:24:33] like think they can go toe to toe with Matthew Hassan okay it just doesn't make any sense he is
[05:24:42] literally the maximum debate lord he is the ultimate debate lord I have never seen him I have never
[05:24:50] seen him on the back foot on any debate, even including people that I agree with and favor
[05:24:56] the ideological position of as opposed to Mehdi Hasan, right? There are some out there.
[05:25:03] He's just an incredible debater. I mean, he wrote an entire book about debating.
[05:25:08] Hill, Lucy, we talked about China. No, I've actually had some private conversations with
[05:25:15] about China too, like, because we, we try to figure out like where our disagreements are. But
[05:25:23] he is, he's just a fantastic debater. Sam Cedar is also a very good debater as well, but
[05:25:31] I think Mehdi is even faster than Sam is. Like Sam has a, has a different way of going about it.
[05:25:39] Matthew has the talking point is dialed in and data points dialed in
[05:25:46] Very clean very sleek very straight to the chase
[05:25:52] In many ways, um the cadence is very different than sam cedars. I would say like
[05:25:57] Uh, obviously i'm nowhere near as good as either of these guys, but
[05:26:03] I'm probably a little bit closer to samside as far as like my cadence goes because I take like the long road
[05:26:09] in the long approach to explaining things, probably over-explain things. Whereas he's
[05:26:14] just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, here are the data points.
[05:26:17] I think you hear that from a lot of black and brown folks from the UK, because I'm someone
[05:26:22] who's criticized racism, obviously, in the UK and in the US. But what's interesting is you talk
[05:26:28] to people in the media space, entertainment space, you look at someone like Idris Elba,
[05:26:32] you look at someone like my good friend, my old school friend, Riz Ahmed, an Oscar-winning Emmy
[05:26:36] winning actor. They've all talked about how when they came to the US they got more opportunities
[05:26:40] than they got in the UK.
[05:26:41] What do you think that is? Is it just capitalism? Is it just business? Is it incentives?
[05:26:46] I think there's also, I mean the country is a bigger country. I think we can sometimes
[05:26:49] forget when we live here how big, how this is a continent of a country. So just geographically,
[05:26:54] space-wise, there's more places to just do things. The UK is very heavily concentrated
[05:26:59] around London, right? The entire country. To the great constellation of people in Manchester,
[05:27:02] and the entire economy is centered around one city.
[05:27:05] Politics is centered around Westminster in London.
[05:27:07] And I think there's also, in England,
[05:27:10] we don't have the legacy of plantation slavery
[05:27:13] and the black struggle for civil rights in the US,
[05:27:16] but we do have a different kind of legacy of empire
[05:27:18] and that form of history to overcome.
[05:27:23] I don't know the white right word,
[05:27:24] I'm looking for like staid, stodgy.
[05:27:27] It's just a kind of an old way of doing things.
[05:27:29] You hit a different kind of glass ceiling in the UK.
[05:27:31] I'm not giving a pass to all kinds of racism and bigotry that still is in the US that we're
[05:27:35] still fighting with.
[05:27:37] But there is something about being a person of color and just having a little bit more
[05:27:41] ambition in the US.
[05:27:42] It's going to get me in huge trouble with people.
[05:27:44] You take forever to explain, bro.
[05:27:46] I know.
[05:27:47] I know.
[05:27:48] If this airs before an interview.
[05:27:49] Both of us are brown and winning in America, which is a good thing.
[05:27:51] Yes, from different parts of the political divide, I think.
[05:27:54] That's right.
[05:27:55] By the way, in high school, if I was in high school with you, you're 15, 16.
[05:27:58] Who's medias on?
[05:27:59] What were you doing?
[05:28:00] I was the same person I am now. I was a debate. Okay. Okay. Let's get to the good stuff. Uh,
[05:28:05] we're, we're, when does it start? When does it get juicy?
[05:28:09] I was an argue. I was the guy with the big mouth. I was the guy getting thrown into the
[05:28:13] hallway. I was a guy going to detention. I know they talk about me. I know, um, uh,
[05:28:17] he, he hits the fucking clip copy for, uh, Mehdi and there's one that he, uh, doesn't
[05:28:23] know the context of the, the, the landlords, let the reads, let the streets roam red in
[05:28:27] capital is blood and he gets flubbed apparently on that one.
[05:28:32] But once and back, I talked a lot.
[05:28:35] Teachers, students, perfect, no matter.
[05:28:37] I found report cards recently that my children and I sat and went through, it was really
[05:28:40] embarrassing.
[05:28:41] My daughter sat with me, we went through report cards, every single one is, he doesn't stop
[05:28:45] talking, he answers back, he thinks he knows everything, he won't stop asking questions.
[05:28:48] Is that a family thing or is that a youth thing?
[05:28:50] It's a family thing, for sure.
[05:28:51] Okay, got it.
[05:28:52] Yeah, I wrote about it in the book, my father passed away last year, he was a, thank you,
[05:28:56] who is a very disputatious individual.
[05:28:58] Love to debate, love to argue, super provocative.
[05:29:01] Even in the Muslim community, the story I tell,
[05:29:03] remember in the late 80s, you'll remember this
[05:29:05] because you're a Varianian heritage,
[05:29:07] I had to look on any gives the Fatwa
[05:29:08] against Salman Rushdie, the Islamic verses.
[05:29:11] Muslims in the UK are furious, especially in the UK.
[05:29:13] More than anything.
[05:29:14] By the way, he helped them sell millions of copies.
[05:29:16] Indeed, so listen to this.
[05:29:17] So in Bradford, big Muslim city in the UK,
[05:29:21] they even burned copies of the Islamic verses.
[05:29:23] Got it, huge issue we can talk about another time.
[05:29:26] But anyway, it's a huge issue in the UK.
[05:29:28] My dad goes out and buys a copy of the Satanic verses,
[05:29:31] reads as a Muslim, and puts it on our dining room bookshelf
[05:29:35] right next to the table.
[05:29:36] So every time our friends, family come over for dinner,
[05:29:38] it's there.
[05:29:40] And people are saying to my dad,
[05:29:41] what the hell are you doing here?
[05:29:42] Why do you have Satanic verses on your bookshelf?
[05:29:45] My dad said, have you read it?
[05:29:49] He said, no.
[05:29:50] He said, well, how do you know what to object to about it?
[05:29:52] And I think that attitude of his,
[05:29:54] which was quite provocative at the time,
[05:29:55] even till his death he was known as a provocative individual. I think I borrowed a lot of that.
[05:29:59] The ability to be able to ask questions, be offensive if need be, be provocative if need be,
[05:30:04] don't give a shit what people think. If you need to ask the right questions, you need to say what
[05:30:07] you want to say. That very much comes from my father, from my household growing up. My sister
[05:30:12] is also a journalist. We're very similar in that sense. What's your journalist? No, he wasn't,
[05:30:16] but he was very political. He was a very traditional. He was a civil engineer. My mother's a doctor.
[05:30:19] They're very classic Asian, Desi, Indian couple. But he was very political from the moment he moved
[05:30:25] to the UK, he loved British politics. Till he passed away, he was asking me questions
[05:30:29] about Trump, what's he doing? Is he going to survive? Like in 2024, all he did, all
[05:30:33] he asked me was like, why are they running Biden? Why are they running Biden?
[05:30:36] At what age?
[05:30:37] This was at 80. He passed away last year, 87. So this would have been 86.
[05:30:41] Good for him.
[05:30:42] So he was super...
[05:30:43] Was he sharp to the very end?
[05:30:44] No, unfortunately. He wasn't sharp at the end. But even when he wasn't sharp at the
[05:30:47] end, he was still very political. Just want to talk about politics, whatever I call it.
[05:30:51] Never had a desire to run and do anything.
[05:30:52] No, no, no. He just loved it.
[05:30:54] If you said there's a certain generation of Indian immigrant men who have a lot of opinions.
[05:30:59] What?
[05:31:00] The opinion part, I agree.
[05:31:01] But he also read broadly, read widely.
[05:31:03] He could quote Shakespeare.
[05:31:04] Who influenced him?
[05:31:05] What influenced his politics?
[05:31:06] His uncle growing up.
[05:31:07] My dad grew up as an orphan.
[05:31:08] His father died when he was two.
[05:31:10] He was raised by his uncle, mainly, who was a kind of polymath, and I think he absorbed
[05:31:15] a lot of that.
[05:31:16] So my father was someone who could quote Shakespeare, but he could also quote Alama Iqbal, the famous
[05:31:20] Urdu poet.
[05:31:21] Like he could switch between different cultures, different intellectual references.
[05:31:24] put a lot of pressure on me and my sister. But was was he a devout liberal himself? Like would you
[05:31:29] consider him a would he today be a progressive himself or no? I think he very much would see
[05:31:34] himself as a liberal. Okay. My parents are very different. I think my mother is more conservative,
[05:31:37] more practicing. My father was more intellectually engaged with the like a literal conservative,
[05:31:41] like conservative, conservative. It's so bad you can mention this to be an interfaith.
[05:31:45] Well, in general, it's just, I didn't know what else to do. I didn't have an idea to run for
[05:31:49] off. I know Zaron well. I've met him a few times. He actually spoke at our anniversary party recently
[05:31:53] and I had to speak after him and I'm kind of arrogant. I think of myself as a good speaker.
[05:31:58] I got nervous that I have to speak after Zoran Mamnadi. What the hell? What am I doing?
[05:32:03] He was Muhammad Ali. I'm looking straight there Ali right there. He is the Muhammad Ali
[05:32:08] of politics right now. He's so fucking good. He son of a bitch. He is so goddamn good.
[05:32:14] And Mehdi is also very good as an order as well. I mean, these are
[05:32:19] Oh
[05:32:22] With Matthew it makes more sense. He's had a lot more practice Zoran is my age
[05:32:26] So fuck am I doing you know what I mean?
[05:32:29] Just the energy in the room people going crazy is every move hanging off his every word
[05:32:34] He's got that if he was American born
[05:32:36] He would be one of the top runners and riders for 28 easels super capable
[05:32:40] But here's the difference between me and Zoran and many differences the big one is he has this charming electric smile
[05:32:45] He is a you know, he's the guy who kisses babies at events. He wins people over. I have what's called RAMF
[05:32:52] I have resting angry Muslim face
[05:32:54] So when I'm talking to people when I'm listening I look mad, right? People have told me this over these producers have told me in my ear
[05:33:00] He's not smiling smile
[05:33:02] Not in a misogynistic way except women you should smile, but people tell me smile
[05:33:05] Yeah, so for me running for office. I look angry all the time. Yeah, you can't win like that. Yeah, he is
[05:33:11] Zoran is a
[05:33:13] a remarkable schmoozer. Okay.
[05:33:17] You put him in a room. I swear to God, like,
[05:33:23] I've seen it in person as well, obviously, and in, um, you know,
[05:33:27] private conversations as well. But like,
[05:33:30] he is so fucking good at making you feel
[05:33:34] special and the risen you the fuck up.
[05:33:39] Okay. He is the goddamn Rizzler. So yes,
[05:33:43] The Trump situation is unique.
[05:33:48] I obviously have talked about like the background and how like, you know, Zoran has seen as
[05:33:52] like an insurgent that, you know, opposes the Democrats and Trump probably sees a little
[05:33:57] bit of himself in them.
[05:33:58] But it absolutely has a lot to do with the fact that he can charm the fuck, charm your
[05:34:05] fucking face off.
[05:34:07] He could be standing here laughing.
[05:34:10] No.
[05:34:11] Yeah.
[05:34:12] Straight up.
[05:34:13] Yeah.
[05:34:14] You need to be smiling.
[05:34:15] You need to be smiling.
[05:34:16] You're a glazing motherfucker.
[05:34:17] No.
[05:34:18] I mean, I'm just, I'm honest.
[05:34:19] I'm honest.
[05:34:21] I'm honest.
[05:34:23] Keohra, people, family that are taking pictures.
[05:34:28] Patrick, can you smile please?
[05:34:31] I'm smiling.
[05:34:32] The first time you guys met he did.
[05:34:34] That's true.
[05:34:36] He's just he's just very good
[05:34:39] He's just very very very good. You're not smiling. So it's maybe it's a Middle Eastern thing
[05:34:45] I don't know but I think for brown and black people sorry to come back to racism again
[05:34:48] I do think there's that extra pressure to show you another angry black man angry brown man
[05:34:52] Yeah Obama was always seen as beloved because he was like oh you can imagine your daughter marrying him when he comes in the room
[05:34:57] There was always that kind of sense his sensibility around so you think that's the part with
[05:35:01] If Mondani he's got a little bit of that Obama-esque thing going for sure. I mean, he look he won over your guy
[05:35:07] Yeah, you don't come or you tell my sleep what I'm talking about Donald Trump. Oh, he won him over
[05:35:13] He went to the white you tell me you don't love the fact that you're saying my guy that my guy said just tell him
[05:35:18] How you feel tell me don't respect that was amazing. Tell me you don't respect that I respect Monday for pulling it off
[05:35:23] But do you respect that Trump's like just tell him I don't like that. I don't understand. You can't say I swear to God
[05:35:27] I don't do you know you respect the fact that it
[05:35:31] Oh, okay. Point one for Patrick, but David. See, he's, this is, this is Patrick in his
[05:35:37] element, right? This is, the debate hasn't started yet, but he already won in this conversation
[05:35:43] because he's doing the muscle guy technique. Okay. He's kind of, he's kind of like, God,
[05:35:49] God, you like it. You like it.
[05:35:54] Classic move. Definitely. He's, he's going in hard.
[05:35:58] Unfortunately, through no choice of my own for 12 years.
[05:36:02] I moved here months before he came down that golden escalator, respected that do not respect
[05:36:06] Donald Trump.
[05:36:07] But I watched that clip and I genuinely, I'm someone who you could ask me about Trump.
[05:36:10] I could talk about Trump all day long.
[05:36:11] I know everything about Trump.
[05:36:13] That moment is big.
[05:36:14] He's, he's doing what we like to call big dogging.
[05:36:17] Exactly.
[05:36:18] He's big dog.
[05:36:19] He's like, come on, big dog.
[05:36:21] Go on.
[05:36:22] He, he looks at Moundani the way I've never seen him look at anyone.
[05:36:27] I've never seen him look at Melania the way he looks around
[05:36:29] Mondani, right?
[05:36:30] In love, just in awe.
[05:36:31] He goes on Sid Rosenberg's radio show.
[05:36:33] You see that?
[05:36:34] Sid Rosenberg, he's a jihadist.
[05:36:35] Mr. President, he hates you.
[05:36:37] Now he's a good guy.
[05:36:38] He's at the state of the union.
[05:36:39] And that still doesn't get you to say you respect him.
[05:36:40] I don't understand why, but can you tell me why?
[05:36:42] Yeah, I think he respects talent.
[05:36:44] Honestly, like horses.
[05:36:45] Like a game recognizes game.
[05:36:47] No, it's, look, you're here.
[05:36:48] I like your talent.
[05:36:50] And I watch and I see what you do.
[05:36:52] Listen, we may not agree on, you know, 50% of it.
[05:36:54] Most other people.
[05:36:55] he is he respects talent and he's got it for me over people Trump doesn't fall
[05:37:00] to bring the guy over Kim I he's done it with a few different people I don't
[05:37:04] mean Putin Kim Jong-un's are on Monday doesn't matter what does that say about
[05:37:07] your mom don't you got to be careful with that's why I don't understand I
[05:37:13] jet maybe a song compares mom donnie to putin and Kim young don't do that why
[05:37:18] don't take this is why don't like straight media just say just say you'll
[05:37:22] like the fact that they got along with it.
[05:37:24] I do like the fact they got along.
[05:37:25] I do as well.
[05:37:26] Because the Ramamdan he went, in the second time he went to New York, he's so smart.
[05:37:29] He knows how, you know, Trump is very easily won over.
[05:37:32] He takes a front page of a newspaper, right?
[05:37:34] He takes a fake newspaper front page.
[05:37:35] Why has people not thought of this before?
[05:37:37] With Trump saving New York, gives it to Trump, and then he goes, can you free this Palestinian
[05:37:41] student who I just picked up?
[05:37:43] By that afternoon, Trump has freed that student, right?
[05:37:46] That is a mayor who knows how to get results and win over Trump without giving up his own
[05:37:49] self-respect.
[05:37:50] Like, falling over him, like, I think Wes Moore was in one clip where they used it against
[05:37:54] him.
[05:37:55] It was very, very funny.
[05:37:56] Well, you give any credit for the fact that by the afternoon, the most powerful man in
[05:37:59] the world gave him what he asked.
[05:38:01] No.
[05:38:02] I'll tell you why.
[05:38:03] Can I tell you why?
[05:38:04] When is your birthday?
[05:38:05] Let me tell you that.
[05:38:06] Where's the July 10th, 79?
[05:38:07] You are this stubborn.
[05:38:08] Why, you've done your homework.
[05:38:09] I'll tell you why I don't respect it, because I'm glad Zaron Mondani did it.
[05:38:13] But what does it say about our leader, the president of the United States, the commander
[05:38:16] in chief, the self-proclaimed leader of the free world?
[05:38:18] Yeah.
[05:38:19] easy to play this guy. World leaders have been doing it for years. This is the problem
[05:38:23] with him. It's so easy to manipulate him. He's so easy to be won over. And I'm glad
[05:38:28] when my guy's doing it for a good cause, but people do it for bad causes, too. I'm sure
[05:38:33] we're going to talk about Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu did it to get him into a war of
[05:38:35] Iran. That's my problem. You know, when Trump first went to Saudi Arabia after he got elected
[05:38:40] in 2017, there was a story about how when he drove from the airport, didn't he have
[05:38:43] missed your hotel? Wherever you're staying. The Saudis, this is in 2017, remember his
[05:38:47] His first trip as president was to Saudi Arabia.
[05:38:49] The Saudis put up on billboards, his tweets.
[05:38:51] Can you imagine that?
[05:38:53] How smart that is?
[05:38:55] That Trump is driving along and he's seeing his own quotes.
[05:38:58] These people know how to play him.
[05:39:00] They know how to suck up to him.
[05:39:01] Kim Jong-un.
[05:39:02] Good quotes or his bad quotes.
[05:39:03] They're praising him, right?
[05:39:05] Every foreign leader knows how you can suck up to Donald Trump.
[05:39:08] You praise him and now in a second term, you give him money.
[05:39:11] You can now bribe the president of the United States.
[05:39:13] So do you think there's an element?
[05:39:16] You've never been in sales before, but you're a businessman now, right?
[05:39:18] Yeah, I'm selling.
[05:39:19] I have done.
[05:39:20] You're now sale.
[05:39:21] Do that stuff.
[05:39:22] And that's subscribe.
[05:39:23] Dude, dude.
[05:39:24] Okay.
[05:39:25] Patrick by David, waiting in a territory where he's most comfortable.
[05:39:28] He's a numbers guy.
[05:39:29] He's a businessman.
[05:39:30] Okay.
[05:39:31] I see what he's doing.
[05:39:33] He's like a fucking panther.
[05:39:35] Okay.
[05:39:36] Setting a trap.
[05:39:37] Matthew doesn't know what he's, what he's arriving into.
[05:39:41] He's he's in
[05:39:43] the Vietnamese jungles and he's about to step in into one of those like bamboo traps and he doesn't even know it yet
[05:39:50] Okay
[05:39:52] This is this is Patrick's environment. Okay
[05:39:57] Join to capital is so happy all the cameras
[05:40:01] The ET you don't but by the way, respectfully respectfully you leave mainstream. You're at MSNBC
[05:40:07] I think you're the number one guy for them with the eyeballs you guys are getting I don't know
[05:40:10] People online for sure young people online your number one. So and then I don't know what the story is what happened there
[05:40:16] We were wishing this was you okay. I am a little jealous. I'm a little jealous. Oh god. I wish I could bro out with Patrick
[05:40:23] Bet David's so bad I
[05:40:27] Want to fucking bro out with it if he said Emma numbers guy at any point
[05:40:32] If I had an opportunity to go on a show and he told me to my face that he's a numbers guy
[05:40:37] I would lose my mind
[05:40:39] Okay, I don't think you guys understand you would never see me again. I would die on the spot
[05:40:45] I'd be like, oh my god. You said it
[05:40:48] A lot of different stories. They were giving you another job. You chose to leave you do independent and then independently
[05:40:55] You have what three and a half million dollar on reoccurring revenue 12 of them all month
[05:40:59] No, 12 months later. Yeah, four months later. That's amazing to be able to do that and then today being a business guy
[05:41:04] So it's it's great to have
[05:41:06] I've never run anything in my life, so I was very curious.
[05:41:09] Maybe that PPE degree you got in economics,
[05:41:11] that capitalist was inside of you and we brought it out.
[05:41:13] So that's great.
[05:41:14] Welcome to the Club of Capitalists.
[05:41:16] It's great to have you with us.
[05:41:17] I'm a socialist slash capitalist.
[05:41:19] A multi-millionaire socialist, which is great.
[05:41:21] Wrong with that?
[05:41:22] Bernie's a millionaire.
[05:41:23] Nothing wrong with that.
[05:41:23] Nothing wrong with that.
[05:41:24] But let's go to the part about you brought up Trump and Beebe.
[05:41:30] So Axios brings up the story.
[05:41:31] At this point, you've seen it.
[05:41:32] So, Rob, if you want to go down so I can read the whole thing,
[05:41:35] You're effing crazy Trump fumes at net yahoo in call on Lebanon go a little bit low revs
[05:41:41] I can read the whole thing so president unless that is a remedy over Israel escalation Lebanon and an exploitive
[05:41:46] Latin column Monday to US officials and a third source briefed on the call to a laxious white matters early on Monday around threatened to ban and
[05:41:54] negotiations with the US over Israel saying actions in Lebanon on the call Trump called that now
[05:41:58] What the fuck?
[05:42:00] wait
[05:42:02] Bro, how did they dive in? I walked away for one second
[05:42:10] What the fuck happened is like oh, yeah, you're a socialist millionaire. Oh, I love it and then boom I
[05:42:17] Come back and it's like Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump are actually fighting
[05:42:21] What do you think about this to us officials and a third source briefed on the call told axis white matters early on Monday
[05:42:27] Iran threatened to ban and negotiations with the US over Israel saying actions in Lebanon on the call Trump called Netanyahu crazy and accused him of
[05:42:34] In gratitude according to two of the sources. He also put the brakes on Israel's plan to strike. They root behind the scenes one US official
[05:42:42] Told BB that following
[05:42:44] Through on his threat on the to bomb Lebanese capital would further isolate Israel from around the world to the sources said
[05:42:50] Trump claimed he'd help keep a net now it added at a jelly said if it wasn't for me
[05:42:54] You'd be in jail right there.
[05:42:56] You're effing crazy.
[05:42:57] You'd be in prison if it weren't for me.
[05:42:58] I'm saving your ass.
[05:43:00] Everybody hates you.
[05:43:01] Everybody hates Israel because of this.
[05:43:03] Do you think this call happened?
[05:43:05] The call definitely happened,
[05:43:06] but both sides are spinning it in their own ways,
[05:43:08] and they're spinning it with the classic people.
[05:43:10] So just background on this.
[05:43:12] This is Axios piece.
[05:43:12] The author of this piece is Barak Ravid,
[05:43:15] who is an award-winning journalist,
[05:43:16] one coverage co-authored by Mark Caputo,
[05:43:19] former colleague of mine at NBC News.
[05:43:20] But Barak Ravid is famous,
[05:43:22] or should I say now infamous in media circles,
[05:43:23] from being the guy who the White House always goes to,
[05:43:26] to leak stuff about conversations with his.
[05:43:29] Is this the guy that leaked it,
[05:43:30] that BP got up, that Biden got upset?
[05:43:33] Yes, same.
[05:43:34] This is the same guy.
[05:43:34] So he did both, he's bipartisan.
[05:43:35] I got it.
[05:43:36] Whether you're Joe Biden or a guy.
[05:43:37] Well, it's not about being fair.
[05:43:38] It's the point is that whoever's in the White House,
[05:43:41] they know that this is the guy
[05:43:42] who does the stories about split
[05:43:44] between Israel and America.
[05:43:45] So we've had about a dozen,
[05:43:46] two dozen of these stories over the last three years.
[05:43:48] Is this the guy you trust?
[05:43:49] Unfortunately, no now.
[05:43:51] It's not that I don't trust him.
[05:43:52] I'm not saying he's making stuff up, but I'm saying he's clearly become a useful vessel
[05:43:57] for information from the White House that they want to get out.
[05:44:00] They know if you're Joe Biden or you're Donald Trump, you know that if you want to get out
[05:44:03] there, you're pissed at Netanyahu, Barack Reveals the guy you go to.
[05:44:06] Now on the other side, you have Amit Sigal, who is one of Israel's most famous journalists,
[05:44:10] very close to Benjamin Netanyahu, channel 12, I think is his network.
[05:44:13] This guy is now-
[05:44:14] Wait, hold on.
[05:44:18] Big dumps, big dumps, big dumps.
[05:44:19] Sanders continues to move hard and stires direction with each new batch if that trend were to continue at its current space
[05:44:25] He would likely win that said the recent rate of movement is so strong
[05:44:29] It may not be sustainable over time huge drop for ramen heavily favored to pass Pratt. She beat bass on this one. Oh
[05:44:37] My god. Oh my god Emma numbers guy. We are gonna chat you to it. We're gonna grok it every single person
[05:44:44] I'm, my only, I have two goals in this, okay. A Steyer, Raman, Red Mirage takeover would
[05:44:57] be beneficial for two reasons. One, kicking out the Republican off the top of the ballot,
[05:45:02] incredible, okay, fantastic.
[05:45:06] Two, every single person that said every candidate that appeared on a song stream lost
[05:45:13] would have to go back and do an about face and accidentally give me way more motion than I deserve because I did not endorse them.
[05:45:26] Emma Numbers guy, we're chat, she beating it and we're groggin it. We're groggin so hard.
[05:45:31] And just like that, all of this sudden, Javier Bessara is now in first place.
[05:45:41] Okay, things are changing, Ammonoomba's guy, things are changing pretty hard.
[05:45:55] Nithya is now the heavy favorite.
[05:45:57] The more the more we count the more we count the votes the more we are stealing. Okay, we are doing start to steal
[05:46:08] We are doing start this deal the Patrick by David quote makes me stim so hard me to
[05:46:13] Tobid Erdogan and Emma numbers guy
[05:46:17] The difference between Pratt and ramen went from 6% to 3.3 with big swings very good very good numbers
[05:46:24] We are chat you pitting it. We are groping it. We are looking at the numbers
[05:46:31] Charlotte's work out stream with regular's been in Mexico when to he would mug the fuck out of me
[05:46:36] Have you seen that man's cum gutters? Are you out of your dang mind? I?
[05:46:44] See a check on Javier, how do they determine that since the council not all in?
[05:46:48] And there's one on Karen Bass as well because they're weighing it
[05:46:52] They're adjusting it and weighing the likelihood of the percentages that will hold towards
[05:47:02] the end of the count.
[05:47:05] It's the statistical likelihood that they are definitely going to make it.
[05:47:10] That's why this is a projection, right?
[05:47:12] They'll say this is the projected winner.
[05:47:14] The winners are never official.
[05:47:15] What you see on television at the night of the election is never actually the official
[05:47:21] winner.
[05:47:22] the projected winner. Many people don't even pay attention to that. And the way that they
[05:47:28] calculate that is by past performance. That's the reason why a lot of election night watchers who are
[05:47:40] not me, but actual fucking election understanders, were very quick to say a lot of people are doing
[05:47:49] an early celebration or early doom and gloom, there's a very high likelihood that Tom Steyer might
[05:47:55] make it into the top two still. There's a very high likelihood that Nithi Raman might make it
[05:47:58] in the top two still. My doom and gloom still obviously revolved mostly around the fact that
[05:48:05] Spencer Pratt got so far 174,260 votes implying that I'm surrounded by 174,260 fucking morons.
[05:48:16] Okay, that's for my my doom and gloom comes from this
[05:48:24] Because the fact that he's cracked a hundred K and of itself is is devastating
[05:48:33] Okay
[05:48:37] Which is really funny because a lot of people thought that I was just like upset because shorakot lost
[05:48:42] I always knew that shortcut was a long shot. It wasn't like, you know, it wasn't a given at all I
[05:48:51] Have said as such I said as much sorry my my vang is also within 2k votes for Matsui. That's great
[05:49:03] How does this stuff change but not sure cuts race
[05:49:05] This is just not votes. There aren't votes. Whenever an election doesn't go their way,
[05:49:19] these people cry fraud and convince their audience that the results are illegitimate.
[05:49:22] If your goal were to design a political movement that would drive people insane and undermine
[05:49:25] the American political system, it would end up looking a lot like the modern, right?
[05:49:35] I
[05:49:44] Okay, this poly market shit doesn't matter and it's literally a paid post come on man
[05:49:56] Hmm
[05:49:58] I've been keeping an eye on shoycott and it's been two to Connie for every shoycott sadly
[05:50:05] would be a crazy way for it.
[05:50:13] Platinum addresses controversy and says they're false accusations yeah that's what he's said
[05:50:20] already on Chris Hayes last night.
[05:50:40] This shot was about as good as Steyer could have hoped for, but he cannot have LA sitting
[05:50:44] at plus 19 next week and win.
[05:50:45] He's not gaining enough outside of Major Irving County, so he needs LA in similar areas to
[05:50:49] keep moving even further in his direction. Los Angeles continues to move hard in Starr's
[05:50:54] direction with each new batch. If that trend were to continue at its current pace, he would
[05:51:00] likely win. That said, the recent rate of movement is so strong, it may not be sustainable
[05:51:04] over time. If he loses by 0.5%, yeah, at that point, I'm not going to say anything, but
[05:51:15] at that point i think we all know who's at fault
[05:51:24] i don't want to say anything because i don't want to get uh... you know hit with
[05:51:27] uh...
[05:51:28] microwavable mashed potatoes
[05:51:33] and no it's certainly not toby derdyn okay
[05:51:46] Matt Mahon, no.
[05:51:52] I thought you were gonna say you because you didn't endorse a lot. No, fuck no, no.
[05:52:03] Yeah, no, I'm actually gonna point the finger at Blamette Butchware.
[05:52:09] And Barack Obama, Barack Denzel Obama Shaw.
[05:52:13] and country and god demot living for country and god demot sorry yeah they
[05:52:24] fucked up I can't believe there was 61 candidates man what a fucking stupid what
[05:52:33] an unbelievably stupid process we have what the fuck 61 candidates and butchware
[05:52:41] still wasn't on the ballot. What the fuck, man?
[05:52:46] Now, reporting today, the day we're talking, that actually the Israeli side is saying,
[05:52:58] no, no, Trump never swore at Netanyahu, never mentioned jail or prison, and they disagree
[05:53:03] about how to handle Hezbollah in Lebanon. So the question then becomes for those of
[05:53:06] of us who were not in the room, who do you believe?
[05:53:10] Serial Donald Trump or Serial Benjamin Netanyahu, journalists who act as vessels for leaders
[05:53:15] on both sides?
[05:53:16] It's very hard.
[05:53:17] This is why people have a real issue with mainstream media right now.
[05:53:20] Because what do you do in a situation like this where both sides are spinning furiously?
[05:53:23] And I can believe either version.
[05:53:24] I can believe that Trump told him you're fucking crazy.
[05:53:26] We wouldn't put that past Donald Trump.
[05:53:28] I can also believe that they lied to make Trump sound stronger than he is.
[05:53:31] And now he's telling the truth.
[05:53:32] I don't know.
[05:53:33] Okay, so how do they typically how do they typically get the credibility because anybody can see this was said so
[05:53:39] Can you go back to the article when it says two sources were there?
[05:53:42] What what what is the you're in this world? Is there a system or a standard to be able to cause this is a big deal?
[05:53:48] Yeah, it's big deal to me. I mean look all the traditional rules of political journalism
[05:53:52] Went out there without the window when Donald Trump came along right so you know my colleagues to in soup sang reports on the White House
[05:53:58] He has very good contacts and you know, he tells me some of the crazy stories he gets from behind the scenes in terms of
[05:54:03] People trying to screw each other over right in the Trump administration. There's a very unique dynamic and
[05:54:09] You know, he's referred to as a reservoir dogs dynamics being reserved to where everyone's got a gun to each other's head at the same time
[05:54:15] Right, so they're all trust each other
[05:54:17] That's another issues are two of the sources people who are allied with each other
[05:54:20] Are they from different wings of the white as you know Pat with this Iran war?
[05:54:23] There are different elements in this administration. Some people want the water done finished some people want it to keep going
[05:54:28] So there's different pressures on this is not a hundred percent
[05:54:32] 80% story this is no so there's different people leaking for different agendas to try and end the war
[05:54:37] Escalator give me to give me how this makes Trump look good. How does it make him look look bad?
[05:54:41] Who's winning with the story who's not so Trump's purely up you you know
[05:54:45] You know the Maga base better than me many of them your viewers many people in the Maga is not not as many as people suggest
[05:54:50] My good friend, Jake Ugo, I know if you've had on the show, he thinks there's a big split in MAGA.
[05:54:54] I'm less of that view. I look at the polls, 80% of MAGA still loves Trump, 70% love this war, but there is a...
[05:55:00] Why are they googling?
[05:55:04] This show is so funny, dawg.
[05:55:08] They're just googling Amit Segal and then Jake Ugoor.
[05:55:12] A growing minority, don't like what's going on with the foreign wars, with the betrayal and actually what promises.
[05:55:17] And a lot of them see Donald Trump as being, you know, what's, I can't come up with a better
[05:55:23] phrase than Netanyahu's bitch.
[05:55:25] And this would help Donald Trump say, look, I'm telling Benjamin Netanyahu, fuck you,
[05:55:30] you're fucking crazy, I saved you from prison.
[05:55:32] I'm the dominant partner in this relation.
[05:55:34] And by the way, this is not just a Trump issue.
[05:55:36] Every American president who's dealt with Netanyahu has come out getting screwed over.
[05:55:40] Joe Biden got completely screwed over.
[05:55:41] He gave his entire presidency to save Netanyahu.
[05:55:43] Look at him today, destroyed.
[05:55:45] Bill Clinton in the 90s came out of a conversation with Netanyahu.
[05:55:48] You know what he said to his team?
[05:55:49] He said, who's the fucking superpower here?
[05:55:51] He was so pissed that he got talked down to by Benjamin Netanyahu.
[05:55:54] So American presidents have been dealing with BB for many years, and they've always tried
[05:55:57] to assert their dominance, and many of them have failed to do so.
[05:56:00] So I think for Donald Trump, it's good if people believe what the problem is.
[05:56:03] Those of us who know the Axios reporting on this were very, very skeptical.
[05:56:05] So let me ask you, if you're Trump's advisor, which you're not, but let's just say if you
[05:56:09] were Trump's advisor, and Trump hears you and he says, screw this guy.
[05:56:14] That's exactly what I told them.
[05:56:17] What does he need to do publicly for even a guy like you to say, shit, this happened?
[05:56:21] That's a great question because Donald Trump's word means nothing to me.
[05:56:24] I've been documenting his lies for many years.
[05:56:26] No one's told more lies than Donald Trump in the public sphere.
[05:56:28] So actions matter more than words.
[05:56:30] Same issue with Biden.
[05:56:31] His people would leak.
[05:56:32] Biden's very upset with Netanyahu.
[05:56:33] Okay, what the fuck are you doing about it?
[05:56:35] Many of us are frustrated with the genocide today.
[05:56:37] Same question now.
[05:56:38] What are you going to do about it?
[05:56:39] Donald Trump has given Netanyahu everything he wanted, right?
[05:56:42] If this conversation is true, he's saying, I saved you from president in the sense that
[05:56:46] he demanded the Israeli president.
[05:56:47] Did he?
[05:56:48] Don't you think he did that?
[05:56:49] In many ways he did, because every time this war continues, Netanyahu avoids trial, right?
[05:56:52] Every time there's escalation in the war, he doesn't have to go back to court.
[05:56:55] And Trump has publicly called on Herzog the president to pardon him, which he hasn't done
[05:56:59] yet, but I'm sure he's feeling the pressure from Trump publicly calling him out.
[05:57:02] So he has helped Netanyahu, but worse than that, you look at what's happening in Gaza,
[05:57:06] he's given everything he wanted.
[05:57:08] And this really bothers me, because in 2024, I spent a lot of time pointing out to people
[05:57:11] on my side, leftists, Muslims, Arab Americans, people in Dearborn Michigan who welcomed Trump.
[05:57:18] And I said to them, you're going to get screwed over by this guy.
[05:57:20] No, no, no, no.
[05:57:21] He's more anti-war than Kamala and Joe.
[05:57:23] This is what I was told by Arab Americans who voted for Trump.
[05:57:25] He will be the anti-war president.
[05:57:27] Stephen Miller said he won't send our boys to die.
[05:57:29] Trump said, remember what he said?
[05:57:30] He goes, Liz Cheney will go to war with Kamala and kill Muslims.
[05:57:33] I won't.
[05:57:34] Sorry, they won't escape that shit.
[05:57:35] Then he bombed, what is it, six countries last year, seven countries last year.
[05:57:38] Now he's in a war with...
[05:57:39] This is 956,000 likes on TikTok.
[05:57:47] Are we here? Is it happening? Or is TikTok aware of Asmongold? Sorry, that's crazy. I got to see
[05:57:54] 11 of those comments. Is Kratos not a 40-year-old middle-aged father? What's his point? He's just
[05:57:58] upset that Kratos had an age-appropriate relationship. This game is going to be amazing.
[05:58:01] Talking but this is him who actually watches this chud. I'm actually crying.
[05:58:06] Kratos is a middle-aged dad, bruh.
[05:58:09] You people have respect for Kratos, but not his wife, how sad. This game looks amazing and a person can't wait to play it.
[05:58:15] Oh my god, when normies encounter Azmin Gold in the wild, it's so funny.
[05:58:27] Jesus Christ, the anti-roach brigade on fucking tic- they hate his ass.
[05:58:32] I forget that we are in a very dark and very seedy corner of the fucking internet where
[05:58:44] like we're surrounded by chuds we're in a fucking we are literally in a sea of chuds like everywhere
[05:58:52] we look there are chuds all around us and because the space that we occupy our fucking
[05:58:59] Twitter and and take and
[05:59:14] yeah yeah i'm good um because the
[05:59:20] fucking uh environment that we
[05:59:23] are in is is twitch and twitter
[05:59:29] Maybe sometimes a little bit of YouTube too, YouTube can get some chuddy, YouTube can get chuddy too at times.
[05:59:34] That we have a totally fucking different
[05:59:38] world view. This is why whenever I go to TikTok sometimes I'll see like a random,
[05:59:43] not a random stray that I caught necessarily, but a random positive
[05:59:48] uh, a clip of me and the comments are all like, we love this guy, we love this guy. I'm like, oh shit, I forgot.
[05:59:53] in the real world. Tiktok almost is like the the internet equivalent of touching
[05:59:59] grass.
[06:00:09] With Iran in Gaza he had this ceasefire at the beginning that people are very
[06:00:14] happy about but since then he's allowed Netanyahu to do whatever he wants and
[06:00:17] earlier this week Netanyahu went on camera and he said we now control 60% of
[06:00:21] Gaza and I'm gonna take 70% of Gaza even Biden Harris blink and none of them said that would be possible
[06:00:28] Trump is basically given Netanyahu can't blanch to do whatever he wants in the Gaza Strip
[06:00:32] So when your answer to your question is what does he have to do to prove he holy guy like you?
[06:00:36] He has impossible to win a guy like I will give credit say now if what if if he manages to get Netanyahu
[06:00:43] Adelaide on and out of Gaza which he won't but that's what I would want to see because that's what's happened on his watch on his watch
[06:00:49] Netanyahu has taken more territory in both those places right prove to me that you actually care about Middle East peace prove to me
[06:00:55] That you have control over Netanyahu and American weapons and came to pull out because right now great Israel is happening in front of our eyes
[06:01:00] Netanyahu is doing the project that far right Israelis always wanted. He's taking Lebanon southern
[06:01:04] Egypt taking God all this stuff who knows what's coming in future thinking well if you embolden the guy
[06:01:08] What is the lesson of the last three years?
[06:01:11] Impunity you can do whatever the F. We want and America will never stop you
[06:01:14] Okay, do me a favor the friendship between what be these vision is and what Israel's vision is
[06:01:19] What do you mean?
[06:01:20] Okay, so for instance, you could have a, you know, there's a difference between what
[06:01:24] America's vision is.
[06:01:25] Yes.
[06:01:26] Be the greatest country in the world, world versus what AOC's vision would be if she became
[06:01:30] president versus Trump, right?
[06:01:32] So what do you think is...
[06:01:33] Which is the worst country in the world, obviously.
[06:01:35] AOC, if she's president, she wants America to be number 200.
[06:01:42] Maybe AOC would be inventing countries to make sure America lasts.
[06:01:49] Trump number one, AOC maybe like number 60 at first.
[06:02:03] BB's vision versus Israel's vision.
[06:02:05] That's a great question and I'm sorry to be the bearer about tidings.
[06:02:08] We do this thing in the US, especially on the liberal side where we say, look, we're
[06:02:12] against the Netanyahu government or not against Israel or the Israeli people.
[06:02:15] The problem is the Israeli people have made it very clear over the last three years
[06:02:18] that they're totally behind all these wars.
[06:02:20] But there's no real anti movement in Israel.
[06:02:22] There's no real. Here's a little bit.
[06:02:24] It's not a big number. It's tiny. It's tiny.
[06:02:25] You look at the polling, 80 percent of Israeli support, 20 percent is what I was
[06:02:28] every military operation blindly.
[06:02:31] You look at the polling, some of it's horrific.
[06:02:32] Yeah, Benji. Benji says, Nope.
[06:02:35] The Israeli people.
[06:02:37] He said, he said it's not the Israeli ruling class is the Israeli people that are at fault.
[06:02:50] Like 80% of Israeli support removing Palestinians from Israel.
[06:02:54] Sorry, from Gaza and another small majority support ethnically cleansing them from Israel
[06:02:58] itself.
[06:02:59] Palestinian citizens of Israel, Israeli society.
[06:03:00] What percentage was this one?
[06:03:02] So I think it's 80% say they're fine with getting them out of Gaza.
[06:03:05] Okay.
[06:03:06] Forcibly.
[06:03:07] Another majority or big plurality of Israelis who are Israeli Jews who say even Palestinians in Israel should ultimately emigrate
[06:03:13] No, Israel proper within the green light one fifth of the population of Israel is Palestinian citizens
[06:03:19] So there's the polling is horrific. There was a poll done last year by Penn State
[06:03:23] I think it was we're ha almost half of Israeli said that when we capture a town in Gaza
[06:03:27] We should treat it like the Bible and Jericho. We should kill all at all the inhabitants all the men like this kind of crazy
[06:03:33] So okay all these polls you take them with a pinch of salt I get it
[06:03:36] But anyone you speak to in Israel who's a serious commentator on Israeli politics will tell you that over the last five ten years
[06:03:41] Israeli society has moved to the right to the far right in a way that American society is not Donald Trump is polling in
[06:03:46] The 30s right now even at his peak he got forty nine point eight percent of the vote in the last day
[06:03:50] He's never had a majority in Israel the right wing parties the far right parties are dominant right now
[06:03:55] Maybe in the 90s early 90s. There was a peace camp. There was Oslo all this stuff. That's gone now
[06:04:00] You can argue about why so how he's not wrong when he says about American society is not shifted to
[06:04:06] The far right in the same way that Israel has he's right about that
[06:04:11] As a matter of fact you can even point to the polarization of the democrats
[06:04:15] And how much more open-minded democrats are to more radical
[06:04:19] more left politics than they ever have been before
[06:04:24] Is that how is that possible? How is it that in israel
[06:04:27] The guy is being that aggressive and his support is getting higher. I don't think he's personal
[06:04:33] Supporters guy will see what happens in these elections because it you know you said 80% of the war the war right?
[06:04:37] This is what I'm saying. This is why I'm saying sure focus on Netanyahu. It's a very good cop
[06:04:40] I even Bernie Sanders who I'm a big fan of he often says
[06:04:43] Netanyahu Netanyahu Netanyahu a lot of Palestinians say Bernie's not Netanyahu. It's Israel
[06:04:47] It's the Israeli political establishment
[06:04:49] So if you swap out give one example if you swap out Netanyahu tomorrow with naftali Bennett
[06:04:53] who's an opposition leader, former Prime Minister,
[06:04:55] I interviewed him once,
[06:04:56] Afdali Bennett is also on the right,
[06:04:58] also likes war, has threatened Turkey,
[06:05:00] has threatened Lebanon.
[06:05:01] You've got another opposition leader,
[06:05:02] Avidor Lieberman, former Defense Minister.
[06:05:04] You know what he said this week?
[06:05:05] That flattened the suburbs of Beirut.
[06:05:07] We should be going in and not this, don't listen to Trump.
[06:05:09] So the opposition in Israel are equally hawkish, right wing.
[06:05:13] So this idea that it's all about Netanyahu,
[06:05:15] it's a myth, I'm sorry to say.
[06:05:16] Okay, so you're saying the two are the same,
[06:05:18] is what you're saying?
[06:05:19] On issues of war and peace, yes.
[06:05:22] I'm sure in some domestic politics tax rates,
[06:05:24] I'm sure the smaller stuff is going to be the people.
[06:05:25] Yeah, domestically within Israel, I'm sure they are.
[06:05:26] When it comes down to the work,
[06:05:27] when it comes down to the region,
[06:05:28] this world's rolling the re...
[06:05:29] Tell me what the vision is.
[06:05:29] If you're...
[06:05:30] What do you think their vision is?
[06:05:32] Bro.
[06:05:39] I think Israeli domestic politics is even funnier
[06:05:45] when you learn about like what the major distinguishing factors
[06:05:50] are, especially because even on the domestic agenda, they only go further right.
[06:05:57] So because the entire culture, the entire society is anchored around the ethnic displacement
[06:06:05] of Palestinians that are treated as like an ever-present threat all the time, and it's
[06:06:10] like supposed to be the security threat, this security state, it inevitably creates unbelievably
[06:06:20] reactionary politics on the domestic front as well. So like, yeah, you have the Ashkenazis,
[06:06:24] the older Ashkenazis that are like a little bit more woke, I guess, as woke as you can be,
[06:06:30] which is not woke at all, obviously, when it comes to fucking genocide.
[06:06:33] But, most of the distinguishing factors in Israeli politics on the domestic side, if
[06:06:43] you're gonna think about Palestine as a non-issue because everyone agrees with it, it goes unbelievably
[06:06:52] far right.
[06:06:54] Like should women be able to read far right?
[06:06:57] Like should women be allowed to learn how to read, okay?
[06:07:02] Now, of course, Israelis that are like liberal Zionists or whatever will refuse to acknowledge
[06:07:15] why that's the case, like they'll talk about how, they'll talk about how, you know, oh,
[06:07:22] it's because Benjamin Netanyahu is a far right figure and he created this coalition and gave
[06:07:30] a lot of legitimacy to the worst elements like the settlers, we don't like them, all
[06:07:34] the shit. But the only reason why these guys are allowed in polite society and have a growing
[06:07:45] movement and a voice is, well, one, because of demographics, they're the only ones who
[06:07:50] are fucking and having like, you know, eight kids. The more fun do you are, the more fundamentalist
[06:07:57] are the more likely you are to have children. That's why the next generation of Israelis
[06:08:00] are far more radicalized than the older Israelis. Yeah, the liberal Ashkenazis don't fuck.
[06:08:06] They don't have children. And it's only the ultra-Orthodox population that's just like
[06:08:11] repopulating. That's part of the reason why Israel hasn't actually run into the same like
[06:08:15] developed nation issue of demographics. And because of their lack of interest in addressing
[06:08:32] the whole society being anchored around far-right militarism against and ethnic cleansing and
[06:08:41] and justifying ethical use against the Palestinians, of course.
[06:08:46] The guys that are more radical
[06:08:48] are also gonna be radical on other shit too.
[06:08:51] What do you think is rules and prisoners?
[06:08:53] There's a best case scenario and there's a worst case scenario.
[06:08:56] The best case scenario is that they have this idea of,
[06:08:59] we must be in a state of permanent war footing, right?
[06:09:02] I think there's a phrase for it,
[06:09:03] I forget the name, combat between the conflicts.
[06:09:05] There's a military doctrine that says,
[06:09:06] even when we're not at war,
[06:09:08] we carry on doing primitive strikes,
[06:09:09] we carry on doing cyber warfare,
[06:09:10] We carry on doing assassinations so that Israel remains the regional hegemon.
[06:09:14] We keep our superiority, our military edge.
[06:09:16] We let everyone know in the region who's boss, even when we're not in a formal state of war.
[06:09:20] That's the best case scenario, that this is just a security doctrine that says we will
[06:09:23] bomb and invade whoever we like just to remain top dog in the region.
[06:09:27] That's best case scenario.
[06:09:28] Worst case scenario is it's ideological, that these are fanatical, messianic people who
[06:09:33] believe that all of the territory is theirs given to them by the Bible.
[06:09:36] I interviewed Neftali Bennett in 2017, nearly a decade ago, for Al Jazeera.
[06:09:40] He was an education minister at the time.
[06:09:42] I never forget this interview.
[06:09:43] I said to him, we were talking about peace treaties
[06:09:45] and two-state solution.
[06:09:46] And he said, the Bible says it's ours.
[06:09:49] I've never heard someone say that bluntly to my face.
[06:09:51] I can't imagine Ilhan Omar going on TV
[06:09:53] and saying, the Quran says this, right?
[06:09:54] This guy's openly saying, the Bible says the land is ours.
[06:09:58] Where do you go with that?
[06:09:59] There's no debate after that, right?
[06:10:00] That's just a kind of religious, ethnic nationalist,
[06:10:03] messianic vision.
[06:10:04] So Benjamin Netanyahu, even though he's not a religious man,
[06:10:06] has signed off on a greater Israel.
[06:10:07] He was asked about what he believes in.
[06:10:08] He said, absolutely.
[06:10:09] The opposition leader, Yeh Lapid, who's a kind of centrist, supposedly a liberal, he was asked after the Mike Huckabee-Tucker Carlson interview.
[06:10:16] He said, do you agree with Mike Huckabee? That all of the territories from the Bible is all yours? He said, our borders are biblical.
[06:10:22] That's what the opposition leader said. Forget the right-wingers, Smotrich and Ben Gavir.
[06:10:26] What do you think is the likelihood that vision becomes a reality?
[06:10:29] Right now, more likely than not, because the United States of America has allowed Israel to get away with a genocide.
[06:10:34] Well, how long? I mean, long term, D.
[06:10:36] Yeah, long-term. It's perpetual war for perpetual peace.
[06:10:40] And by the way, deep down inside, do you really think Trump wants his war to continue?
[06:10:44] No. Trump's a long war.
[06:10:46] That's why he's been humiliated by Iran, because he thought this would be over in a few days.
[06:10:49] By the way, nobody thought Iran was going to be able to, like, not nobody.
[06:10:52] A lot of people on this camp, when they sat there and talked about it,
[06:10:56] it is a very fair argument to say that, let me make my point on what I'm saying,
[06:11:01] it is a very fair argument to say that, unlike Venezuela, which we
[06:11:06] This is such bullshit.
[06:11:12] Of course everybody knew this would happen.
[06:11:15] There's a reason why no previous administration has ever done it.
[06:11:22] Literally everyone knew that this would happen.
[06:11:26] I am not a numbers guy, as you guys know.
[06:11:32] And even I knew.
[06:11:34] Why did I know?
[06:11:36] Because the motherfucking generals, specifically Dan Cain, came out and leaked to the media
[06:11:44] that this was a spectacular failure if implemented.
[06:11:51] And he only did that after he couldn't convince Donald Trump.
[06:11:54] So literally everyone knew that this was going to happen.
[06:11:59] analysts knew that this is what would happen down to expending their standoff munitions
[06:12:08] that they have developed for their peer and near peer adversaries that they've stockpiled for Russia
[06:12:14] and China. As a matter of fact, the only aspect that they didn't know, they knew that they would,
[06:12:20] you know, close off the Shredda Hormuz that was always an imminent threat,
[06:12:24] collapsing the global energy markets that was always an imminent threat.
[06:12:29] The only thing that actually surprised even the American analysts was how effective the
[06:12:40] mosaic defense structure would be at pommeling American targets.
[06:12:46] They didn't know how much intel Iran already had.
[06:12:52] That was one of the major, like, that was one of the new things that we found out after
[06:12:56] this, right?
[06:12:57] We always knew that they had the capacity to close the shadow hormones with relative
[06:13:00] ease.
[06:13:01] We always knew that they had a capability to withstand tremendous American attacks because
[06:13:11] of the missile production facilities that they have underground.
[06:13:18] The stockpiles are underground, but no one I don't think knew exactly how accurate their
[06:13:26] their strikes would be, the Iranian strikes would be,
[06:13:33] but everyone understood that this would be a,
[06:13:35] you know, very difficult task.
[06:13:42] We didn't know two things.
[06:13:44] One, how effective they would be
[06:13:46] at destroying American targets.
[06:13:51] And two, how effective they would be at propaganda
[06:13:55] Lego videos. Nobody knew. Nobody knew how good the Lego videos would hit.
[06:14:12] We went in, we got my dude on, we're out. Most likely Cuba is going to be the same way as
[06:14:17] Venezuela, probably even easier when they go through and get it. Iran showed up strength
[06:14:22] To the world. Yeah, and you got to give them credit no matter what no matter what anybody says conservative or on the left
[06:14:27] You can give them credit militarily obviously not politically, but Trump. I don't think we can defend them with nobody knew this
[06:14:32] But he did this line recently nobody knew they were gonna hit the Gulf States
[06:14:35] We all knew they were gonna hit the Gulf States
[06:14:37] They've been saying this
[06:14:38] That Iran was gonna hit the Gulf States
[06:14:39] That Iran was gonna hit the Gulf States
[06:14:40] That's been there doctrine for years
[06:14:42] Do you think they unify the Gulf States even more?
[06:14:44] No, I think we've wrecked our long-term relationship with the Gulf States
[06:14:47] I think in private all of these Gulf States will in public they'll say what they're gonna say but in private
[06:14:51] They know the US security umbrella does not so they know that even if they give Donald Trump a $400 million plane
[06:14:56] Even if they put half a billion dollar in his crypto business Israel will always take president
[06:14:59] Do you think do you think the Gulf States?
[06:15:03] Prefer Iran to be led by IRGC or you know the story we saw recently with possession who's a moderate
[06:15:09] Yeah, step in on because it's like everything's being run by who do you think the Gulf States with rather?
[06:15:13] I think the Gulf States are not a monolith festival Patrick because the UAE is very different to
[06:15:17] Qatar and sure right their neighbors and neighbors, but they have different foreign policy
[06:15:20] I understand the UAE is an outlier the UAE is very hawkish very pro-israel very pro-america very anti-Iran
[06:15:26] Which is kind of crazy because you know the US and Israel move on with their lives
[06:15:30] The UAE is exposed to Iran for the rest of their lives in UAE
[06:15:34] Succeeding the most out of most of the Gulf States when you are they financially are they there are any businesses have cleared out tourism
[06:15:40] Is falling I mean huge industry based on tourism for the time for the time
[06:15:44] You think people are gonna go back?
[06:15:45] I think my thing is, I think so.
[06:15:47] I think that the image is being.
[06:15:49] Brother, what are you saying, bro?
[06:15:56] This is a brief glance into Patrick by David's mind, okay?
[06:16:03] He just knows Instagram.
[06:16:06] He's a numbers guy.
[06:16:08] He knows Instagram.
[06:16:10] All of his buddies are going to Dubai constantly.
[06:16:13] So he's like, UAE is doing really good.
[06:16:17] That's incredible.
[06:16:19] Why are none of your buddies that are normally in Dubai,
[06:16:22] currently in Dubai?
[06:16:28] It's so funny.
[06:16:28] He's like, I don't get it, they're popping on Instagram.
[06:16:31] It's permanently destroyed.
[06:16:32] I don't think you could put it back in the bottle.
[06:16:34] They had this image,
[06:16:35] especially to kind of white Westerners
[06:16:36] as this business, tourist, even residential utopia.
[06:16:40] You go there, there's no crime, you chill out,
[06:16:41] everything's cheaper, et cetera, et cetera.
[06:16:44] I think that's gone now.
[06:16:45] Once Iran has done this, I think they've destroyed that image.
[06:16:47] Now, if you're Amazon or whatever it is, Chase Bank,
[06:16:50] you're gonna go back into Dubai, Abu Dhabi,
[06:16:53] knowing that Iran can then do this again
[06:16:55] at any time they want.
[06:16:56] As long as Iran is still run by the same government,
[06:16:58] I don't think these Gulf States get that image back.
[06:17:00] And I think the Qataris understand that,
[06:17:02] even the Saudis understand that.
[06:17:03] They want a region, I think privately,
[06:17:06] and I may be wrong, and a few people in the Gulf,
[06:17:07] I speak to say this to me,
[06:17:09] they recognize that Israel is the real problem in the region.
[06:17:12] They may not say so publicly, some of them
[06:17:14] are signed up to the Abrahamic world, like Bahrain, et cetera, UAE.
[06:17:18] But I think they understand that Israel
[06:17:20] is the destabilizing force in the region.
[06:17:22] Israel, the bomb six countries in the Middle East last year,
[06:17:24] it wasn't Iran that did that.
[06:17:25] It's Israel that went to war now and brought the United States
[06:17:27] into this conflict and led to Iran bombing Kuwait, and Qatar,
[06:17:30] and Saudi Arabia, and the UAE.
[06:17:31] And I think that is a situation wherein
[06:17:33] I think you're going to see these Gulf states, if they're
[06:17:35] smart, making overtures to the Chinese
[06:17:36] and to the Russians in future years,
[06:17:38] to kind of diversify who they rely on. Say it, Mandy. Most of
[06:17:45] these turkey messed up that he won't say it. See? See, he won't say it. He's afraid of
[06:17:59] the Turk. Maybe, maybe it's me being a Syrian. Maybe it's me being Armenian. Maybe the fact
[06:18:04] that I lived in Iran could be the reason for this. But nobody, you know, sells Israel
[06:18:11] as this incredibly powerful organization and brains than those who ate Israel. All they
[06:18:18] talk about is how powerful Israel is. I don't think there's anybody that's the Don King
[06:18:25] promoting how smart, intellectual, brilliant Israel is, than those who does cap.
[06:18:33] Israel is the king of lying about their capabilities. Are you kidding me?
[06:18:41] I know the argument he's trying to present here is like, oh, Israel's small being nation,
[06:18:46] Israel's enemies actually end up fucking up and making Israel look good.
[06:18:50] as bullshit. Israel literally constantly lies. Israel lied to Donald Trump. Israel lied to
[06:19:01] Donald Trump about how easy of a campaign this would be and how much intelligence they had.
[06:19:08] Remember, oh my God, remember when they killed Ayatollah Ali Hamanay and every fucking mainstream
[06:19:17] news reporter was like, this was a brilliant act of espionage. And it was like, dude, you
[06:19:23] killed an 88 year old guy in his house. What do you mean? This was a brilliant act of,
[06:19:32] of, of statecraft and espionage. And he was in his house alongside his family. You did
[06:19:43] not you did not identify where he was he wasn't in a unique position he was in his house
[06:19:57] who can I stand Israel I'm not I'm not one of those but but if okay so if I mean I let me
[06:20:02] just go through the list I'm I'm not somebody who said Iran would roll over I said Iran would make
[06:20:05] Iran look like a walk in the park talking about like I warned Iran in America would not be able
[06:20:09] to destroy Iran in the way they thought they could destroy Iran it was insane it was she
[06:20:13] hubris to think they could do that. I've been saying that for 15 years. I've been
[06:20:16] saying since Iraq, when I was a 23-year-old marching against that war, when Bush was thinking
[06:20:20] about Iran, I was saying, are you afraid of Israel? Am I afraid of?
[06:20:24] Are you afraid of Israel? What do you mean? Are you afraid of Israel's aspirations?
[06:20:27] Oh, yeah. Aspirations are different, right? Can they pull it off? I agreed with you that
[06:20:31] just because they have this messianic vision doesn't mean they're going to win.
[06:20:34] Did you say they located the house?
[06:20:52] They located the house of the Supreme Leader?
[06:21:03] Do you think he had a tactical secret house?
[06:21:11] Yeah guys stop doxing the president.
[06:21:15] Hello stop doxing the president please.
[06:21:19] Many people do you see that chatter?
[06:21:21] People are posting the address of the president over and over again in the chat.
[06:21:32] messed up yeah I mean I agree with that it's like okay like they didn't win in
[06:21:36] Gaza bro I said in 2023 this whole plan when when people were like yourself
[06:21:41] and others like you're right to self-defense destroy Hamas if you
[06:21:44] can't so there is no military solution to your problem yeah so you know you
[06:21:46] know you know what it is for me oh don't talk to me because many is gonna do
[06:21:50] this system now I want to talk to many now I'm telling you be careful no I want
[06:21:54] to talk to me oh don't talk to BB because I'm now I want to talk to him I
[06:21:58] wish you had an hour and a half to talk no don't talk to Nick no don't talk to
[06:22:01] this guy. I want to talk to him. I don't sit there and see that my god everything that
[06:22:07] they're so powerful they can control America they do this they do that.
[06:22:10] What the fuck does this have to do with people warning you not to talk to Mediasm? Also,
[06:22:19] now I'm wondering who's been telling him don't talk to Hassan Piker.
[06:22:28] I mean you kind of given them too much credit. I mean you're mixing different things together though
[06:22:33] One thing is militarily can they win on battlefields? No, not always
[06:22:37] His blood defeated them in 2000 famously. That was the first time they were defeated by an Arab force on a battle field when they withdrew from southern Lebanon
[06:22:43] They're back now. We were told his blood was done
[06:22:46] Do you remember a couple of the other pages and the assassination of Australia? They've done it was a paper tiger
[06:22:50] They just killed 30 Israeli soldiers in the last few weeks, right? They've injured hundreds more who knows what the real numbers are
[06:22:55] So clearly they're not done for Hamas is still around and the Iranians still have what 70% of their missile stock according to US intelligence
[06:23:01] So the idea that these wallpaper tigers was bullshit. That's a different argument. I'm not a military expound
[06:23:05] I'm not gonna sit here and adjudicate, you know, who has the strength in the field
[06:23:08] Politically though in this country does Israel still have power? Sure. They still have politicians who support them
[06:23:13] They still have lobby groups to advocate for this. So does Qatar. No on the level of Israel. Come on
[06:23:18] Oh, are you okay? Let me oh come on
[06:23:22] God he is okay
[06:23:25] Okay. You are a literal slave to APAC if you make this idiotic argument. Dude, it is so
[06:23:37] funny. Like, there is no comparison. There is no comparison to the level of influence
[06:23:48] that any foreign ally or adversary has inside of the United States of America to Israel.
[06:23:55] Nothing. Nothing comes close, dude. The Qatar meta is so funny.
[06:24:13] Ask a question. Let me ask you a question.
[06:24:15] If you had
[06:24:17] five billion dollars
[06:24:20] To win over influence in people in America politically and inject your way of thinking
[06:24:25] Yeah, would you put that money to buy over congressmen and senators or would you put that money?
[06:24:31] Into winning over kids. Where would you put your money?
[06:24:34] No, no, okay, then do diversify diversify seriously use it as a mutual fund
[06:24:39] You got five billion dollars. How much you put them one? How much you put in the other one? Honestly
[06:24:43] I don't know. But I want you to think about it. 50-50, I think they both support you thinking.
[06:24:47] You do, but when you say young people, you mean like TikTok? University?
[06:24:50] I'm a university. TikTok, social, you know, give money to universities, give money to places to get the kids influence.
[06:24:56] I mean, I'm sure Matthew has already picked up on what PBD is trying to do here.
[06:25:02] He's going to say the amount of money that Carter spends on university is far larger than Israel.
[06:25:08] That's what he's gonna say that he thinks he is setting up a trap
[06:25:16] Okay
[06:25:18] Which is again fucking insane because like the the
[06:25:26] Opaque funding structure that exists for pro-israel institutions and pro-israel groups in the United States of America go far beyond the influence
[06:25:33] It's just like directly funding university initiatives, okay?
[06:25:38] Like, every, every halal on a campus is objectively and openly pro-Israel.
[06:25:44] It's just true.
[06:25:48] That's not a part of the funding mechanism.
[06:25:49] You know what I mean?
[06:25:50] There are, there are ideologically Zionist college professors that are, you know, defending
[06:25:57] Israel unconditionally.
[06:25:58] There are Jewish advocacy organizations that almost entirely involve themselves with pro-Israel
[06:26:09] advocacy.
[06:26:10] There is no comparison that you can make between Israel and Qatar.
[06:26:15] And of course, this is just on the influence peddling side of things.
[06:26:22] You can also look at the impact of this lobby, right?
[06:26:27] The impact of the pervasive influence peddling operation.
[06:26:30] Yeah, there's alumni funding too, obviously.
[06:26:33] It's just, there's no comparison.
[06:26:39] When people hyper focus on APAC, they actually don't tell the entire story at all.
[06:26:45] That's not even the tip of the iceberg, honestly.
[06:26:53] There is, once again, no comparison between Qatar and Israel, and that's precisely the
[06:26:56] reason why there's no other country that we have a level of allegiance with, like we do
[06:27:01] with Israel.
[06:27:04] Yeah, in terms of influence peddling, Israel is an elite of its own.
[06:27:09] After Israel, you have Saudi Arabia and then further down UAE Qatar and then probably China,
[06:27:13] but none of them are near Israel.
[06:27:14] Not even close.
[06:27:16] Not even close because a lot of the, well, first of all, none of them can engage in advocacy
[06:27:25] in the country without fair restrictions except for Israel.
[06:27:37] Try to play that fucking, oh, well, I'm an American Muslim.
[06:27:42] And that's why I believe it's appropriate to get my notes from Saudi Arabia when I do
[06:27:48] advocacy for Saudi Arabia.
[06:27:50] If you think you can fucking pull that shit off, let me tell you, you are getting slapped
[06:27:53] with a fair violation so fast, your fucking head's gonna spin. Imagine, I'm American born
[06:27:58] Chinese. So I went and I fucking met with the Communist Party of China and they told
[06:28:05] me like what to tell the American government and how to lobby the American government.
[06:28:09] You're, you're, it's over. You're going to jail. It's not happening. Whereas there's
[06:28:22] There's one group of people that can do this, Americans, not just Jews, Christians as well,
[06:28:33] can go and fund an Israel lobby that goes to Israel and literally talks to the Israeli
[06:28:42] government and is in constant coordination with the Israeli government.
[06:28:49] And that lobby is not seen as a foreign lobby, even though the foreign name is in the name
[06:28:55] of the lobby APAC.
[06:29:10] I've seen a new talking board going around that you actually live in Clutter and have
[06:29:13] investment properties in California with Jank and use that money to fund our enemies.
[06:29:16] People live in delusion, dude.
[06:29:17] I'm sorry.
[06:29:18] Damn it.
[06:29:19] operation. This is unreal. The new school student senate voted to cut ties with the campus
[06:29:27] hello group because it literally sponsors students to materially participate in the
[06:29:30] bombing of Gaza. And so the new school admin is investigating the student senators. Saudi
[06:29:41] Saudi Arabia is our ally. Saudi Arabia has a lot of money. Can you imagine doing this
[06:29:52] for Saudi Arabia? Oh, we're going to be participating in the bombing of Yemen, which is being conducted
[06:29:57] with American weapons. It's ridiculous.
[06:30:09] would you put them on you? But let me let me let me let me take your example take a step further.
[06:30:12] Okay, let's say I put it all in students. I win over young people. That's already happened.
[06:30:16] Have you seen the polling? The young people hate Israel. I know but but but does it translate
[06:30:20] into policy? No, because the Congress says I'm Qatari Qatari the amount of money that is spent
[06:30:27] on American universities for them that allow branches of the university operating Qatari's
[06:30:30] education city. Texas A&M is one of those universities and it left Qatari because it's pro-Israel
[06:30:36] board hates cutter yeah
[06:30:39] still controls the
[06:30:40] oh yeah israel's economy is fake i forgot
[06:30:42] that's the other side of the story israel's economy is entirely fake and
[06:30:46] also entirely propped up by american billionaires
[06:30:49] that just basically dump boat loads of money into israel
[06:30:52] there are uh a couple industries in israel that are actually viable
[06:30:57] that are you know growing obviously pharmaceuticals is one of them
[06:31:01] but outside of that they have nothing they have no natural resources
[06:31:05] and their economy has been uh... uh... fine all things considered in spite of the genocide
[06:31:11] and there's a reason for that
[06:31:13] that's because it is a literally like a like a parasitic kick on the side of the
[06:31:17] american economy and the american economy of yes the russians too
[06:31:22] before i forget you're absolutely right
[06:31:24] russians use israel as a jumping uh... as a as a launching pad
[06:31:28] into the european markets in international markets
[06:31:30] but also
[06:31:31] uh... uh... it's it's literally like a like a skin tag that just sucks all the
[06:31:36] uh... whatever it can from the uh...
[06:31:39] american economy
[06:31:45] russians use israel to evade sanctions
[06:31:49] americans
[06:31:52] an incredible amount of loyalty to the nation's state of israel and they will
[06:31:57] literally just dump boatloads of money the tech the tech sector is fine but it's
[06:32:10] it's limited what are you talking about like yeah they have spyware that's it
[06:32:16] they have ways and they have spyware like that's not none of this is real it's
[06:32:24] It's not a real country, okay?
[06:32:27] It's not.
[06:32:28] It's just a fucking fake made-up country with nothing.
[06:32:34] And now it's got a growing defense sector as well, obviously.
[06:32:38] So I'll give you one example, 8% of Democrats support Israel's war in Gaza, 8% according
[06:32:43] to a poll last year.
[06:32:45] In Congress, it's the other way around.
[06:32:46] It's like 80% of Democrats support Israel, only 8% or 10% of voting against weapons or
[06:32:51] genocide.
[06:32:52] I'm full park figures here.
[06:32:53] So what's the disconnect?
[06:32:54] Disconnect is we have a Congress that doesn't represent the public on either side of the divide
[06:32:57] I don't think the Republican Party fully represents its base, but more so Democratic Party certainly doesn't represent its base on Israel
[06:33:03] The leadership look at these primaries. We're sitting on a day where there's gonna be a bunch of primaries
[06:33:06] So my big point here is yes, it's great that young people have been one over
[06:33:10] It's great that everyone under the age of 50 in the United States of America where the Republican or Democrat does not want more
[06:33:15] Weapons going to Israel. That's the latest polly under the age of 50 everyone that makes sense to me, right?
[06:33:19] But Congress does so the disconnect. This is why we have such a crisis of democracy
[06:33:24] This is why Israel matters so much in our political system.
[06:33:26] It's not just a foreign policy issue.
[06:33:27] It's an issue of our democracy where we have members of Congress and a president who does
[06:33:31] not follow American will, does not follow the will of the voters.
[06:33:34] And so to answer your question, yeah, you do need to spend money lobbying Congress because
[06:33:37] ultimately they're the ones voting on weapons.
[06:33:39] They're the ones voting on aid.
[06:33:40] They're the ones voting.
[06:33:42] And there's more domestic considerations as well.
[06:33:44] Not only is it like obviously rerouting money that could be going to the United States of
[06:33:48] America to like endless warfare that we're fighting now literally at the best of Israel,
[06:33:54] the dollars of funds burning in real time every single day. But also on top of that,
[06:34:01] because of the unbelievable amounts of unprecedented influences foreign country has on American domestic
[06:34:08] policy, it actually turns into a real fundamental problem in American society, like in regular
[06:34:17] society, censorship, First Amendment violations. Like whenever someone tries to tell me,
[06:34:23] Oh, there's why do you care about Israel so much? It's like, well, there's only one foreign country
[06:34:29] on the planet that has been able to destroy the American First Amendment and we'd never even talk
[06:34:35] about it. We don't even talk about it. Most people don't even know that this exists in 38 states.
[06:34:42] The Israeli lobby has advanced directly written and has advanced bills that make it illegal for
[06:34:48] American citizens to demand boycotts, to demand divestments, and to demand sanctions from the
[06:34:54] state of Israel. That is a clear-cut, definitional violation of the First Amendment. And it's
[06:35:04] ironic because many of these states are hog states. Texas is one of them. I'll give you
[06:35:09] an example. In the state of Texas, if you want to be a teacher at a public school, you have
[06:35:14] to sign a loyalty pledge of the state of Israel that says that you will never boycott, that
[06:35:19] you will never demand boycotts divestments or sanctions from the state of Israel.
[06:35:24] Isn't that fucking crazy?
[06:35:28] Every time I bring this up, people go, nah, you're lying.
[06:35:31] Google it.
[06:35:32] Google it.
[06:35:33] In many of the red states, Google it.
[06:35:39] That is a direct violation of our First Amendment, and we don't have that for America, we don't
[06:35:47] have that for Russia, we don't have that for Estonia.
[06:35:52] We only have that for Israel.
[06:35:55] So how can you sit here and tell me that Israel doesn't get special privileges, that Israel's
[06:36:01] lobby is not a malignant force in American politics that absolutely interferes with regular
[06:36:09] frequency on American domestic affairs. It's ridiculous. No other country comes close.
[06:36:19] That's it. Dude, if I want to cut the grass at the intersection ditch in Tennessee, I
[06:36:26] have to sign an anti-BDS pledge. Yeah, you have to sign a loyalty oath, not to the United
[06:36:31] States of America, but to the state of Israel to work for the fucking municipality. And
[06:36:38] that's not all. That's not all. For example, and you can always get fired at will in these
[06:36:48] States too, because there's no labor protections.
[06:36:54] On top of that, on top of that, well, I was gonna say, there's one more thing that I was
[06:37:10] going to mention that always it fucks people up.
[06:37:15] I talked about BDS, oh, there are also numerous at the local level, there are numerous initiatives
[06:37:25] against protesting Israel, right?
[06:37:28] They're obviously hidden under hate crime statutes, where they claim to be, where they
[06:37:35] They claim to be combating anti-Semitism, like the bill that Scott Weiner unironically
[06:37:42] wrote champion and advanced in the state of California.
[06:37:49] Nothing comes close to this level of direct involvement.
[06:37:52] Israel on top of that also subverts the democratic process.
[06:37:57] This is precisely the reason why they hate APEC Tracker, they hate Dropsite, and they
[06:38:00] They called them out by name because APAC doesn't ever run ads about how much a candidate
[06:38:07] loves Israel.
[06:38:09] APAC knows how toxic a brand Israel is or how little people give a shit about Israel in
[06:38:14] American elections, right?
[06:38:15] Or at least for the past couple of years, they knew that nobody really gave a shit about
[06:38:20] Israel before October 7.
[06:38:22] So they run ads for candidates that are pro-Israel and they run ads against candidates that are
[06:38:29] even like a little bit critical of the nation-state of Israel, and the ads never feature Israel at all.
[06:38:35] No other advocacy organization does this. None. None of the other lobbies do this,
[06:38:43] just APAC. So not only do they not get restricted as a foreign agent, which they should,
[06:38:51] good. But they also actively undermine democracy by promoting candidates, by dumping unlimited
[06:39:02] amounts of funds to certain races to promote certain candidates and to unseat others without
[06:39:08] ever mentioning Israel at all. No other country does this. No other lobby does this. American
[06:39:18] lobbies don't do this for American interests. That's it. There's no comparison. Whenever
[06:39:26] people say, oh, why do you care about Israel so much? I'm like, why don't you care about
[06:39:29] Israel? Are you fucking insane? Are you stupid? Are you out of your fucking mind? Are you oblivious
[06:39:37] to what's going on? What other foreign country is at the precipice of so much enmity that
[06:39:46] they are about to create a real political problem
[06:39:49] as far as their unlimited funds that they receive
[06:39:52] that they are now advancing a measure in congress to literally merge
[06:39:56] the foreign military of israel
[06:39:59] and the american military
[06:40:01] do we have one with other countries you say england
[06:40:05] not true
[06:40:08] not true israel's the only country
[06:40:10] that gets
[06:40:11] the latest technology latest great technology no other country gets to have
[06:40:15] it. No, not Japan, not England. We don't do that for NATO. We don't do that for any other
[06:40:26] country. It's not hyperbolic. Out of the F-35 fighter jet program, Israel is the only country on
[06:40:32] the planet, for example, that gets to have its own software, its own operating software in the F-35
[06:40:37] fighter jets. No other country has complete control over their own F-35 fighter jets.
[06:40:46] Not a single other country has that. Only Israel.
[06:40:52] They can get fighter jets, they can get F-35 fighter jets,
[06:40:56] but none of them have the operating software that is indigenous like Israel.
[06:41:01] to censor our speech saying anti Zionism is anti Semitism all of that stuff is coming out of
[06:41:10] Congress and he was like Qatar and this I just gave you an example the Qataris gave him a $400
[06:41:14] million plane the Emirates gave him a half a billion dollars for his crypto fund the Saudis
[06:41:19] have sponsored multiple multi-million dollar golf tournaments at his properties hotel did it come
[06:41:24] in useful when it came down to it he picked Israel he picked Miriam Adelson he picked Benjamin Netanyahu
[06:41:28] He picked a pack. He picked
[06:41:31] Vodka rubio. I don't know about he picked all these people. What do you mean? We see with our eyes. I don't know about that
[06:41:35] I don't listen. Let me ask you this. Do you think and by the way, you didn't answer my question
[06:41:38] So I want to stay on the money part and then I'm gonna go to my dad answer
[06:41:41] I know how I could spend all on the kid. It doesn't matter. No, but so ultimately Congress is still more important
[06:41:45] So what so you would put all the money in Congress? No both? I said you would do 50 50 50
[06:41:50] 50 50 and then when over the people who represent so so where does cutter put their money?
[06:41:54] They put six and a half billion in universities. What does China put their money?
[06:41:57] five and a half billion dollars in universities.
[06:42:00] What type of influence do you think they got long term?
[06:42:03] You think long term, like you think China thinks short term,
[06:42:06] you think Qatar thinks short term,
[06:42:08] you think they're trying to buy influence long term
[06:42:10] when they get in front of the kids?
[06:42:11] You think, do you have evidence?
[06:42:13] It's a serious question.
[06:42:14] The dollar?
[06:42:15] No, I mean, no, I'm talking about, do you have evidence
[06:42:16] that, first of all, what Chinese investment
[06:42:19] is going into university?
[06:42:19] Do you want to pull it up, Rob?
[06:42:20] I mean, this, you know.
[06:42:21] I know that Qatar is a sponsor.
[06:42:23] I've been to Georgetown Qatar.
[06:42:24] They spent a lot of money on universities.
[06:42:26] It's great.
[06:42:26] asking about what's China's sponsored university?
[06:42:29] Holy, China has given donations.
[06:42:31] Talking about the Confucius institutes, but having, he's failing to make the point because
[06:42:39] he doesn't know what he's talking about.
[06:42:40] I'm fairly certain he's talking about the Confucius institutes that used to exist in
[06:42:48] America.
[06:42:49] I think they made it illegal now or something.
[06:42:51] I'm pretty sure.
[06:42:52] I remember there being some controversy about it.
[06:42:55] But once again, it doesn't matter, because what level of influence does China have on
[06:43:05] American foreign or domestic policy?
[06:43:12] There is no comparison.
[06:43:14] Israel also has the highest number of companies in the American stock market, far larger number,
[06:43:22] I believe then even countries that are far larger than Israel like India
[06:43:27] To the Chinese government sponsors American University. I did not let me pull up. Let me pull up
[06:43:32] I'm happy to show my ignorance. I don't know what he where the money is coming from
[06:43:35] But I'll show you here China has invested an estimated 5.6. I was short by a billion
[06:43:40] Okay, 6.4 billion American University over the recent decade making it one of the largest for because so why
[06:43:48] You didn't read the third sentence, which is what these
[06:43:50] You think research partnerships with the Chinese is making kids on campus pro-china?
[06:43:55] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, stop what I'm saying, you're very smart.
[06:43:59] So you went to Oxford, you got the PPE degree.
[06:44:02] It's like, not the PPP loan, you got the legit PPE degree, right?
[06:44:06] Do you not think if these schools are getting this type of money,
[06:44:10] which phone call you think they're picking up?
[06:44:12] Oh, we know, Patrick, because we just saw what happened the last three years.
[06:44:16] Did Columbia go pro-Israel or pro-Cutter?
[06:44:18] But what did Columbia do they went pro-Israel a silence all the profile of stadium right what did they do?
[06:44:23] But what did they do they rolled over for don Trump and they rolled over for Israel?
[06:44:27] Don
[06:44:31] Most of these universities don't have literal campuses in foreign countries like China as
[06:44:41] They do in Tel Aviv. That's one
[06:44:44] most of these universities alumni even if they are fucking Chinese are not
[06:44:52] actually making administrative decisions at the behest of a foreign nation
[06:44:59] like our American alumni are okay at the best of Israel that's a huge part of
[06:45:08] this problem. Some of this stuff is not going to show up for a numbers guy to find out after
[06:45:18] chat GPT'ing it. Okay, after grocking it, chat GPT'ing it, grogging it.
[06:45:40] Is the event that happened that got him to get there? I don't know which event.
[06:45:44] What why did they do that? I don't know. I don't know you follow the stories you tell me who was it?
[06:45:50] It was three universities are colombia is one and what a bunch of universities are cracked down
[06:45:55] Why did they do that? Why did they do that multiple reasons pressure from politicians who are pro-israel?
[06:46:00] I think maybe maybe from donors who are pro-israel pressure from activist groups
[06:46:04] This whole ridiculous debate where we conflate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism. I remember what I'm not with that
[06:46:10] Just so you know like in Florida when they're saying you can't debate and criticize Israel
[06:46:14] I'm not part of that camp. Not just that. DeSantis is one of the many governors and I'm not part of that
[06:46:18] I've said that if you're an American business that engages in BDS you can't get contracts with the state
[06:46:23] That's insane that American business can't do what it wants. But by the way, what I'm trying to tell you
[06:46:27] I think the reasonable people are not with that short term some of these things may come and go
[06:46:34] Yeah
[06:46:35] The media created campus anti-Semitism crisis in Israeli propaganda campaign completely divorced from reality
[06:46:40] university's own internal reviews find campus anti-Semitism to be on par with campus Islamophobia,
[06:46:45] yet one is covered 63 times more than the other. Between October 2023 and April 2024.
[06:46:56] Chicago professor was just suspended after assignment mentions Palestinians, okay.
[06:47:15] We called the P word Chicago professor suspended after assignment mentions Palestinian school
[06:47:19] the art institute Chicago professor put under investigation after student complaint about
[06:47:22] a case study.
[06:47:24] in the US was just suspended from mentioning Palestinians just days after Sampaica was
[06:47:28] barred from the UK for condemning a genocide, your rights are being stripped away in service
[06:47:32] of Israel's impunity.
[06:47:39] I mean, dude, simply put, can you imagine the British government barring the entry for
[06:47:44] saying like, fuck Russia?
[06:47:47] You know what I mean?
[06:47:52] saying I don't like Poland criticizing Poland, criticizing Estonia, Lithuania, any other country.
[06:48:05] Dude, I mean look, one of the, one of the,
[06:48:09] one of the, the better examples of this is, ironically enough, Daniel Bisse's gubernatorial run
[06:48:15] against J.B. Pritzker. When he was running against J.B. Pritzker, his Lieutenant Governor
[06:48:22] Pick was DSA. His Lieutenant Governor Pick was DSA and therefore, DSA Chicago at the
[06:48:31] time was pro bds and still is 2018. He dropped him. There was controversy around the fucking
[06:48:45] lieutenant governor pick of a Jewish liberal Zionist who was running for governor with
[06:48:53] family members who live in Israel and his hand selected lieutenant governor pick was
[06:48:59] DSA and therefore was on board with BDS. And they dropped them. Daniel Bush dropped his
[06:49:09] ass. What other country has this level of involvement with the Lieutenant Governor pick
[06:49:21] in Illinois, in the state of Illinois, who has like no guarantee that he's going to win anyway?
[06:49:29] They're out here funding fucking like Comptroller races and shit
[06:49:40] Ridiculous long-term they're not I had Randy. What's his last name Randy fine? Oh, I had him on and I asked him the question
[06:49:47] About where he's at. I think you may have even tweeted something about it when we when we talked about I asked a couple question
[06:49:52] Pointed whether he was pro America America first or Israel first if you're in America. Hey, I
[06:49:58] I have a problem with you not being America first, but I want to go back. Oh, yeah
[06:50:02] Randy fine was being honest with you when he said America first, right?
[06:50:06] Come on man back to this if they give six billion
[06:50:10] You think they're dumb that they're just given six billion to universities. You don't think they want things in return
[06:50:15] You don't think everyone. I think you made that point earlier. There are many lobbies trying to get their way
[06:50:18] I'm not disputing that there are many lobbies. In fact, I'm the one who says let's not treat the Israel lobby as a unique love
[06:50:22] Oh my god a pack. I always a pack and our a great
[06:50:26] uh... all of the big pharma all of these people all over i would get money out of
[06:50:28] politics
[06:50:35] what a crazy twenty four hours may attend to the ruling feels a little surreal
[06:50:38] first i just want to say thank you to everyone who supported me believe in me
[06:50:41] help me get there
[06:50:42] i could not have done any is that all of you for all those on and then the
[06:50:45] tentative rulings are sometimes published in advance of hearings
[06:50:48] in the interest of streamlining the hearing
[06:50:50] the tentative ruling is the position of the court before the hearing so the fact
[06:50:53] tentative ruling is to grant my motion for judgment is incredible news the
[06:50:56] hearing was earlier today and the judge has taken the matter under submission
[06:50:59] and official ruling will be issued hopefully sooner rather than later I'm
[06:51:02] feeling very optimistic and I'll be going over the document tomorrow on
[06:51:04] stream at 7am see you all then
[06:51:09] so it's still not finalized right I mean it seems it seems very unlikely that
[06:51:18] that an appeal would change anything at this point, right?
[06:51:25] But it's not enough to ask these people if they're America first, you have to ask them
[06:51:31] what number to rank Israel.
[06:51:32] If they say number two, then at least that's something.
[06:51:34] I have a feeling most wouldn't say that though.
[06:51:43] No.
[06:52:02] Now Israel wants a permanent seat in the Situation Room.
[06:52:05] What the fuck?
[06:52:09] Israeli officials in their allies and guards are, and pro-Israel organizations are seeking
[06:52:12] to ensure that going forward, the Israeli prime minister and his or her officials will
[06:52:17] be functionally and permanently granted seats in the U.S. Situation Room. What? Oh, this
[06:52:26] is with the NDAA? I mean, it would be anti-semitic not to, right? I think it would be anti-semitic
[06:52:37] not to do this. So obviously we have to, right? But hey, guys, guys, Patrick Bet David thinks
[06:52:48] China has the same level of access in the United States of America. So let's endlessly
[06:52:54] pontificate on that issue.
[06:53:01] God I didn't fall into the trap of of sounding anti-semitic for a brief moment there
[06:53:14] There is something poetic about all of these fucking grippers who were like I'm not dying for Israel
[06:53:20] That's why I'm not voting for Kamala Harris who are literally going to now die for Israel
[06:53:26] Like, yes, instead of drafting the Haredi population, which would have created a lot
[06:53:34] of political turmoil, Israel has decided to draft the American population.
[06:53:40] Isn't that nice?
[06:53:44] I'm a Bernie Elizabeth Warren. I want to get money out of politics. Let's get rid of citizens
[06:54:01] united. Yeah, Supreme Court decision. Yeah. Okay. So, but let me come up to a direct
[06:54:04] point about influence. Like the members of five eyes don't even have that buddy. Huh?
[06:54:11] What the fuck is the five eyes in comparison to the level of unprecedented access Israel gets come on
[06:54:21] Those are vassals
[06:54:23] We are the vassal at this point with Israel's interest. I'm not disputing that they're spending money. They're lobbying everyone's doing it
[06:54:30] I'm saying Israel's winning and the evidence is what happened. See I'm saying Israel's losing
[06:54:34] I'm I've I've not only do I have a kid in college. I have multiple Muslim friends left his friends with kids in college
[06:54:41] I have kids who've been arrested. I have kids who've been doxxed. I know kids who've been suspended
[06:54:46] I know kids who've been expelled because of their criticism of Israel
[06:54:48] I watched a video of Ramesa Osterk a young Turkish student at Tufts be picked up by eight ice agents and detained because she wrote an
[06:54:56] Op-ed in her student paper saying we should divest from Israel and Marco Rubio had her detained for a year
[06:55:01] Right, so don't tell me that Qatar is winning this argument. Qatar is not winning the argument on campus
[06:55:05] So that's just a complete the three last three years is a complete
[06:55:08] I get your argument, but I would dispute it in the following way, everybody is...
[06:55:15] You are delusional, man.
[06:55:17] Okay, Mehdi's being way nicer than I would be at this point, by the way.
[06:55:22] I mean, I've already brought up a bunch of talking points here, but come on, dude, come
[06:55:29] on.
[06:55:30] This is one of those things that even the dumbest guy you know would be like, I don't
[06:55:35] think that's the case. Okay. The dumbest guy you know, heard his favorite content creator
[06:55:43] Patrick by David present this argument and went, I don't think that's the case at all.
[06:55:48] And I don't trust you anymore.
[06:55:54] Trying to win influence, everybody, they're spending money. So no matter what it is, everybody.
[06:55:58] But the question is, whose money is working and who's not the part where I go that's not
[06:56:04] Working is do you think Israel's popularity in America has increased or decreased last five years?
[06:56:10] No, because you that's a different argument. That's because people saw a genocide live stream to their phones
[06:56:15] Also
[06:56:16] Doesn't even fucking matter. We literally don't have a real democracy. This is the point that I've been trying to drive home
[06:56:24] Every time I do one of these media hits in the UK or in the United States of America where I keep
[06:56:28] reiterating this point over and over again. I'm like, right now there's a crisis in democracy
[06:56:34] because the enmity towards Israel is so overwhelming by the masses that these countries in the western
[06:56:40] world are basically having to make very difficult decisions on whether or not they even maintain
[06:56:48] the appearance of a democratic process or if they just cast it aside completely and go full tilt
[06:56:53] authoritarian fascism, okay? Because eventually people are gonna keep demanding, keep protesting,
[06:57:01] protests are gonna get, protests are gonna increase in their intensity,
[06:57:06] because you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. And at that point, people are gonna
[06:57:10] start realizing, okay, what the fuck is democracy in you at all? What is, what good does that do for
[06:57:15] me. I've been out in the fucking streets. I voted. Nothing works. And eventually, they
[06:57:25] are no longer just going to oppose Israel. They're going to oppose their local governments,
[06:57:29] their domestic, their state governments. They're going to oppose the concept of democracy in
[06:57:35] and of itself. This is a real violation of the social contract. And I don't think those
[06:57:42] in power, understand what they are teaching people, right? And you can't, you can't buy
[06:57:48] your way out of it.
[06:57:49] It's morning. That's one of the big issues. It's one of the bigger issues, but it's
[06:57:52] more than that. So, so whatever they did, like even when Charlie Kirk, you know, the
[06:57:56] letters came out when he was having a conversation with BB. And I don't know if it was the seven
[06:58:00] things he wrote, the six things. Do you remember that when he wrote a letter? I don't know
[06:58:03] if you remember that.
[06:58:04] I wasn't a big Charlie Kirk reader. You'll be shocked here.
[06:58:06] Yeah. Well, you would have liked it. It was a special.
[06:58:08] No, he didn't like me. He wanted me deported. I called for me to be deported from this country.
[06:58:12] Can he such a free speech champion? He was tell what was his reason for it?
[06:58:15] I said something about COVID that he didn't like what did you say about COVID something about the whole scoop
[06:58:20] What Mike what what there is a make Patrick?
[06:58:23] Are you gonna fucking agree with Charlie Kirk and be like, you know what? He was right
[06:58:27] You should be deported like what again? Are you a defender of the First Amendment or not?
[06:58:33] If you are then you recognize that Charlie Kirk was wrong to say that
[06:58:37] God damn position on you know lockdowns vaccines whatever it was he didn't like it but instead
[06:58:45] of debating me on it he said who's this guy he should be deported from the country can you tell
[06:58:50] me specific what it was right now if you said something crazy shit on twitter hold on hold on
[06:58:57] even if i said something crazy first amendment doesn't come crazy first amendment or can he
[06:59:02] he can also say that but you should threaten people with deportation i don't know what you said
[06:59:06] I'm crazy shit. What did you say? No, I didn't say anything crazy. I'm just like even let's say I did say something
[06:59:09] But even I didn't say that crazy. Let's just say he said that that's his freedom to be crazy. Of course. This is freedom
[06:59:15] Yeah, I'm not gonna like the guy you're like I would have to do that's a different that's how we go
[06:59:18] Okay, why would I agree with the guy you hated? No, no, you don't you don't have he hated Islam and he wanted me to pull
[06:59:22] That's a different story. That's a different story. And by the way Rob is fast Rob is fat
[06:59:27] We need you Rob Charlie is the speed Charlie was a phenomenal phenomenal guy, but let me let me go back to it
[06:59:33] That's totally fine, so but where was I going with this we were talking about the influence and then we went to universities
[06:59:39] What topic were we on on that? I brought up Charlie Rob?
[06:59:42] Do you know where I was you were saying took it in Netanyahu in the stuff. Oh, yeah
[06:59:44] When he talked about me out with the seven points and he said to him he said you're losing the kids
[06:59:49] Whatever you're doing the propaganda you're losing the kids
[06:59:52] So it's not working
[06:59:54] So if you say the influence of a pack or whatever they're spending their money to win over Congress and all these other guys
[07:00:00] guess what happened? I think they gave money to John Cornyn, APEC did. He lost.
[07:00:05] He's been there for 40 plus years. Paxton won. So what happened with that
[07:00:10] guy winning? He was a guy that was not even supposed to win. He had issues,
[07:00:13] letters came out with his wife, all this others. It wasn't a pretty thing. So I
[07:00:16] don't know if their influence, don't get me wrong, when you talk about Mary,
[07:00:20] you know, she's she's put up some real money there. I mean, she's been very open
[07:00:23] about she's put up some real money. Can I say I don't think we're
[07:00:26] disagreeing that much. I think we're not actually disagreeing. I agree with you. I'm the first
[07:00:31] to say I'm very happy to see young people switching on this. I never thought a day would
[07:00:35] come in my lifetime where polls showed that the American public supports Palestine more
[07:00:38] than Israel, which we're now seeing from Pew and Gallup. That's an amazing change in public
[07:00:41] opinion for people like me. But what I'm trying to say to you is all of that is valueless,
[07:00:46] worthless. Why are the APEC calculation might make sense to APEC is, well, who cares what
[07:00:50] public opinion say? If we can, if we is short term, but if we can control, but they don't
[07:00:54] think long-term no no no no the Chinese do the Israelis think short-term no
[07:00:59] really talking Israeli okay I'm talking about those who wanted to make sure like
[07:01:04] whatever their belief is whatever your belief is folks that are not pro-israel
[07:01:07] right and hey if they've not won hearts and minds we agree on oh no no I think I
[07:01:12] go to schools and I talk to kids first thing I ask is who do you watch used to
[07:01:16] be Charlie Kirk who's it now that that really what's your position with Israel
[07:01:20] Oh, I mean, it's like zero to anger towards Israel. So guess what that means whatever the propaganda was
[07:01:29] Correct or not it worked for those that are anti-israel. I guess
[07:01:37] Okay, I need to say something here I
[07:01:43] Think this is a moment where the less you know
[07:01:48] the better you perform. I think Patrick Bet David is a more difficult person to debate
[07:01:59] for Mehdi Hassan than like the average, like Sean and Kaston Baum or Rabbi Schmooley or
[07:02:05] wherever the fuck, because he is throwing some of the dumbest arguments that I have
[07:02:15] ever heard. Like, this is basic level shit that you have to describe to him. Like, you
[07:02:22] have to describe to him, you know, shapes and colors before you can even come to terms
[07:02:28] on what the debate even actually is about. Because he keeps advancing this point where
[07:02:33] it's like, well, Israel is so powerful. Why does everybody hate it? And it's like, I don't
[07:02:38] know, dawg, maybe because he did a fucking genocide and they were unbelievably arrogant
[07:02:43] annoying throughout the entire process and have actively demanded people get fucking fired and have
[07:02:49] gotten people fired and have also subverted democracy the democratic process they've they've
[07:02:54] gotten congresspersons to lose their goddamn positions of power for even daring to criticize
[07:02:59] the state of israel perhaps all of that combined pisses off a lot of americans even though some
[07:03:05] even the the dumbest americans are like yeah this shit sucks
[07:03:08] It is actually because of Israel's profound influence, that is the reason why it has profound
[07:03:16] enmity.
[07:03:20] This is a really fucking stupid argument.
[07:03:24] And I don't know if he's like weaponizing his stupidity here, or if he just like genuinely
[07:03:29] doesn't think this is a...he genuinely is like, what do you mean, but everybody hates
[07:03:33] Israel?
[07:03:34] He says, this is a powerful lobby.
[07:03:39] They've made a lot of problems.
[07:03:40] I guess we're scary.
[07:03:40] When the pro-Israel side hear you say that,
[07:03:43] when they see the numbers of people watching Candice Owens
[07:03:45] or Tucker Carlson or Nick Fuentes, God help us,
[07:03:47] when they hear that, they don't go,
[07:03:49] shit, we need to work harder to win hearts and minds.
[07:03:52] What they say is,
[07:03:53] we need to crack down on democracy and free speech,
[07:03:55] because that's the only way we stay in power.
[07:03:57] That is why Peter Bynant, my good friend,
[07:03:58] who used to be a hardcore Zionist,
[07:04:00] now a liberal that works anymore,
[07:04:01] Peter makes the point that you're gonna see
[07:04:03] a lot of Zionist groups in this country.
[07:04:04] He didn't say anti-Zionist, he said liberal Zionist, he's right, by the way, I think,
[07:04:10] to a certain degree.
[07:04:12] Mehdi.
[07:04:13] Right.
[07:04:14] Traditionally, American Jewish groups have been pro-democrats, liberals, but now they're
[07:04:20] allying with Trump and MAGA because they see a way of suppressing speech and joining
[07:04:25] with authoritarian forces because they can't win the argument fair and square.
[07:04:29] I think that's a mistake.
[07:04:30] It is a mistake.
[07:04:31] But that's what they're doing.
[07:04:32] I understand that but what I'm saying to you is it's very important to win over the kids very important to win over kids and
[07:04:40] I agree when I see China cutter putting that kind of money in schools
[07:04:43] You know their long-term thinking is let's win these kids over and I'll let's see what happens
[07:04:49] So I don't think Israel is winning when it comes on to winning over
[07:04:52] Did you see the Jerusalem post conference in New York this week? No, they hosted a conference ties in with the Israel day crazy parade
[07:04:58] He had Ronald Lorda the estate order guy the billionaire giving a speech his son-in-law is the Federal Reserve guy Kevin Walsh
[07:05:06] Is he Jewish is Jewish Ronald Lorda is a very leading figure in the American Jewish community big supporter of Israel
[07:05:11] He gave a speech at Jerusalem post conference and in that speech
[07:05:14] He go he said that Mossad and Shin bet the Israeli intelligence domestic and foreign today should be working hard
[07:05:21] To get American kids to support Israel influence operations openly called for in a speech as a clip doing that
[07:05:26] It's insane, right? So when you're talking about this, I'm saying to you that it's not that they don't know what's happening
[07:05:30] But their solutions are so bad shit crazy back to that story and so authoritarian
[07:05:35] Israel is losing the information war. So they get it. They agree with you and me
[07:05:39] Yeah, but their solutions are scary as shit. They're authoritarian and work today. I hope is the one. You know, I saw gonna work
[07:05:44] You know, I saw gonna work today. Why is it not gonna work? Are you with MSM? You see today? No, okay? Where are you at?
[07:05:49] I'm independent. What can you talk about anything?
[07:05:52] Anything you want as long as you don't say something crazy they get a strike on YouTube
[07:05:55] Yeah, but that's the thing, right? Look at TikTok, when Mitt Romney had Anthony Blinken
[07:05:59] on stage during that famous conversation a couple of years back, and he said, everyone's
[07:06:03] like, oh, they're going off to TikTok because of China, because of China, because of China.
[07:06:06] Mitt Romney just sits with Blinken and says, every time I go on TikTok, you see six times,
[07:06:10] seven times as many pro Palestinian posts as pro Israel posts. We got to do something
[07:06:14] about that. Blink is annoying. I'm like, Mitt, you're not supposed to say that out loud.
[07:06:17] You're supposed to say that in the old room. He said it on stage, right?
[07:06:21] Damn, he's just fucking he's wearing him down at least. Um, here's what's interesting about that story, too
[07:06:27] You guys notice how that never got any coverage whatsoever like the Israel angle
[07:06:33] That was pretty apparent like pretty out in the open got a lot of coverage here
[07:06:38] Got a lot of coverage in Zatay, oh dropside and independent media and yet never really saw it that
[07:06:46] Take shape in mainstream outlets at all
[07:06:49] I wonder what that was about.
[07:06:53] Interesting.
[07:06:54] They're about to talk about you, hell yeah.
[07:06:57] He made it clear that the TikTok, taken over TikTok by the Ellison's and Co was always
[07:07:01] about Israel more than it was about China.
[07:07:03] And that does worry me because you can say, oh well, I wonder today, if God forbid the
[07:07:07] genocide restarted today at the level it did in October 2023 after the horrific massacre
[07:07:11] on October 7th, what would we see on our social media screens today?
[07:07:14] I think you'd see much less than you saw in October, November, December 2023.
[07:07:19] So if you OK, fair on what could happen there.
[07:07:23] But to me, I think the independent content creators Israel wasn't used
[07:07:29] to these guys 20 years ago, and this is a very different game.
[07:07:32] Yeah, we're talking about.
[07:07:34] So they were not going to come on, not eating anybody and just sitting
[07:07:38] from the computer, play video games and talk.
[07:07:39] And nowadays you have streamers, streamers are influencing kids.
[07:07:43] Gamers are influencing kids. How long this is gonna last? I don't know
[07:07:46] Look what the UK government just did. Who you talking about?
[07:07:49] So again, that's the short-term crackdown. We can't win the argument by the way. What did they say to Israel?
[07:07:55] But what was a specific thing?
[07:07:56] They didn't hit a specific as far as I'm aware. Well, I mean UK, you know your country
[07:07:59] I didn't see the details because
[07:08:01] I know that they didn't say, is it like banned for criticizing Israel? They say. I don't know what the UK government has said
[07:08:08] But but they're saying this you don't know if that's the position
[07:08:12] I don't know. I don't know the exact, but, but my point being, my point being,
[07:08:15] this is exactly what we just talked about, which is, again,
[07:08:18] we can't debate with Hassan Piker, the streamer.
[07:08:20] So we just prevent him from coming to speak. You can do it here though.
[07:08:23] This is specific. But my point is, but they're doing, no,
[07:08:26] but they do it in reverse, right? So with the UK, your pressure, the UK government.
[07:08:29] I don't know about Cenk, but you want to pull up some of the stuff.
[07:08:32] Hassan, I said, you want to give him feedback on what he said? Like,
[07:08:34] I give him feedback. I know Hassan very well. Have you heard about some of this?
[07:08:37] He knows that he said some capitalists,
[07:08:39] Bluffs and you know, that's some outrageous stuff. He said he knows the guy that a lot of stuff
[07:08:44] Again, or so what he said, okay, come on. What do you just pull up the crazy shit?
[07:08:53] Get his ass get his ass Patrick get his ass
[07:08:59] Yo cook them
[07:09:02] Cook his ass. He's a fraud
[07:09:04] Pull the clips up defend them, but I want to know what I'm not a defender match. Well, I'm gonna defend him from falsehoods
[07:09:11] I've spoken to Hassan very bluntly and said you've you've given your opponent
[07:09:15] Yes, in what is the context of that? Tell me the context you're talking about American foreign policy and you know the quote-unquote famous line about
[07:09:21] You know chickens coming home to roost. It was a very provocative statement. He's apologized for that by the way
[07:09:26] He's on the back foot. He's on the back foot Patrick hit him hit him more
[07:09:31] To be clear, but even Robert Kagan, you know, Robert Kagan is the big neocon
[07:09:36] He came out recently and said you know what 9-11 was a result of our bad foreign policy
[07:09:40] He just said it in a more diplomatic Atlantic magazine friendly way
[07:09:42] So you're supporting him saying that I sound like I know he shouldn't have said it like that because America deserved
[07:09:46] I love mixed and those people died was worth it. No, but did America bring 9-11 on itself 100%
[07:09:51] Are you US foreign policy created Osama bin Laden created al-Qaeda created all of these wars in the Middle East
[07:09:57] He's doing too good of a job defending me get his ass Patrick and it's not 110% that
[07:10:05] was a blowback from US foreign policy.
[07:10:07] Every serious scholar who's looked at that admits that now 20 year we're coming up to
[07:10:10] 25th anniversary 9-11 even Robert Kagan is saying, when do you think what could be, Rob
[07:10:15] can you pull up how many arrests happen in UK versus other countries on social media?
[07:10:19] I don't know if you've seen this as a watch and okay Patrick is flailing a little bit
[07:10:22] Patrick stay on message stay on message cook his fraudulent ass Patrick.
[07:10:26] It's a little bit out of control.
[07:10:27] But you know when you talk about Piker, son Piker, what he said, to me, you can say anything
[07:10:32] you want to say.
[07:10:34] The only thing I have a problem with is when it comes onto a threat to someone's life.
[07:10:37] Yes.
[07:10:38] Give your opinion.
[07:10:39] Hey, I disagree with this guy.
[07:10:40] This guy said that.
[07:10:41] But when he gets down to that and then he's even threatened anyone's life.
[07:10:45] When he said, capitalist blood, let them die.
[07:10:49] Can you pull up that?
[07:10:50] Yeah.
[07:10:51] Get his ass.
[07:10:52] Get his ass.
[07:10:53] Get his ass!
[07:10:54] Mehdi did not. Mehdi was not ready for this one. I don't think he had ever seen this one.
[07:10:59] Um, clip?
[07:11:01] I don't know that clip. I need to see the full clip.
[07:11:03] If Hasan sat right here, I'm 47. You're 46. I think we're a year apart. You're 79, right?
[07:11:08] Okay, so we're the same age. So when you sit down with a young guy like that, and we've made some major restriction on career.
[07:11:14] I just told you, I talk to Hasan all the time. Don't give your opponent sticks with me.
[07:11:16] Here's who I watch this.
[07:11:17] The guy is a non-violent guy. He doesn't support war or killing. He just says provocative things.
[07:11:21] Yeah, but Rob, would audio or no?
[07:11:22] Understanding that is that the property owners who have properties there choose just not to rent it at all
[07:11:27] Yeah, kill them. Kill those motherfuckers and murder those motherfuckers in the street. Let the streets
[07:11:32] Let the streets soak in their fucking red capitalist bloods, dude
[07:11:37] Yeah, this I'm dumb. Oh, wow. Where is the rest of it? Damn it
[07:11:42] Get his ass Patrick get his ass
[07:11:49] Cook them cook them
[07:11:51] Let's see how Matthew, let's see how. Let's see how Matthew defends this one. It's good-looking
[07:11:59] masterful pearl pearl clutch. Mr. PBD. I almost believed you cared. Yeah.
[07:12:04] The dumb thing I say to the guy, good speaker. Why would you say I'm a text. He did. He literally
[07:12:11] did text me while that was happening. He's not even lying. He is straight up texted me.
[07:12:15] He's like, what the fuck?
[07:12:20] The ultras who called you an opportunities were 100% right.
[07:12:23] You're flip flopping on yourself.
[07:12:30] I just chat you PT it.
[07:12:32] I'm a numbers guy.
[07:12:33] Chat you PT told me this Hassanabi guy very dangerous argument done.
[07:12:45] Why are you hating on Mendy? He stood up for you. Man, I'm fucking joking, dude. What are you?
[07:12:51] God damn it. How can I make it more clear that I'm fucking joking, chatter? I'm literally
[07:12:57] defending Patrick Beddavid's cheating on me. What the fuck?
[07:13:01] topic. End joke. Back in the day, the way to do end joke was by saying in a video game,
[07:13:22] which is ironic because that clip cuts before I say in a video game, but regardless, that's
[07:13:28] That's a LARP. It's LARP. And there's a reason for why that is the classic unearthed example
[07:13:36] from 2018 where I'm talking to someone who I used to be friends with, no wonder friends
[07:13:41] with him and he's a massive stalker of mine as a matter of fact. Bro, defending you, it's
[07:13:49] so hard because they always bring up some obscure clip of you in 2017, 2018 saying like
[07:13:54] like, based pull pot more like gold pot? Yeah, guys, you don't have to take this shit seriously.
[07:14:03] Okay? It's like when people will be like, oh, excuse me, right here, he says in 2017,
[07:14:11] oh, now people care about dead Syrian children. And it's like, you do understand that they
[07:14:16] are deliberately robbing everything of its context on purpose. Like, that's, there's
[07:14:23] This is not an active policy that I'm implementing or initiating. I'm literally talking to a landlord at that point
[07:14:29] It's larping who gives a fuck
[07:14:36] No, Matthew was like I've never seen that clip of you you sound so angry
[07:14:40] That's what he said
[07:14:42] But after this say you screwed me over on the Patrick bed David because I'm not gonna defend that
[07:14:47] I don't know what the context for that is but look even you said let's park Hasan piker
[07:14:50] Cenk Yuga said a lot of things are very provocative too. Not like that, but about Israel. Yeah
[07:14:54] The point is to come back to my wider point
[07:14:57] Which is there's still a way for them to shut down the conversations to censor speech critical of Israel
[07:15:01] And the Saudi law is everywhere, but now he can't speak in the UK is my point
[07:15:05] Well, that's but that's the argument for UK's dumb policy. It's not just the UK. You don't think the US
[07:15:09] Have you not not at the broke pull up?
[07:15:13] Pull up the numbers
[07:15:20] Ah, stop pull up the numbers. Oh my God. I just realized he literally leans into chat.
[07:15:35] GPT at any time someone standing in front of him starts opposing him a little too good.
[07:15:44] any time an interlocutor actually starts cooking and making a little bit, he's like, I'm a numbers guy.
[07:15:50] Stop it. We got a chat, you petite. We got a rocket. That's how he, that's how he centers the
[07:15:58] conversation back. Almost every one of your haters, what is this difference to you and
[07:16:05] a son, pikers that 10 years ago, you were a literal neo-nazi that call for the genocide of
[07:16:08] non-white people on daily basis. The son, despite all his flaws, never went through a neo-nazi phase
[07:16:12] in his life? What is this? When a son of Parker says, but I said the horrible thing in 2019
[07:16:20] was so long ago, I want you to remind, I want to remind you that he in his community, if
[07:16:24] it's just the things that person posted 10 or even 17 years ago, represent who that person
[07:16:27] is was and always will be. It's the standard that he said. Wait, what? I've literally never done that,
[07:16:34] actually. No, my policy on this is very clear. Things that you've said in the past are not
[07:16:44] reflective of who you are right now. But if things that you've said in the past are reflective of
[07:16:49] who you are right now, then yes, of course, you can point to things that you've said in the past
[07:16:54] because you're continuing to say those things right now.
[07:16:58] I've always been a major advocate for change. This is actually one of the most like
[07:17:04] What the fuck's wrong with this guy? I don't understand this guy at all.
[07:17:10] It's, it's the thing that is the thing that that
[07:17:15] like people get the most mad at me about like wokes and and Radlibs will constantly,
[07:17:23] constantly yell at me over the shit where they will, they will turn around and they'll be like,
[07:17:29] Dude you're fucking idiot like no one has the capacity to change
[07:17:35] He castrated himself and blame tankies for it. What the fuck?
[07:17:41] Yeah, it's it's probably the the thing that
[07:17:44] Over the last well, I don't even know what that means, but we'll get back to that in a second
[07:17:49] I don't understand what you were saying what he castrated himself and blame tankies for it
[07:17:59] Okay. Explain what that means. Okay. This doesn't explain what that means. It's a meme
[07:18:16] about a crowd on Twitter.
[07:18:34] He cut his balls off and blame the tank is no, this is not explaining anything.
[07:18:39] why do you guys know that
[07:18:59] why don't you I don't even know what this dude's deal is
[07:19:03] I will is a fat parrot
[07:19:09] Okay, I feel like I
[07:19:13] Feel like it's one of these is one of these situations where like everybody is in on a joke and I feel so left out
[07:19:18] I don't know what this is
[07:19:21] So this fat parrot is
[07:19:24] into cock-and-ball torture and
[07:19:26] As a part of his cock-and-ball torture he accidentally castrated himself
[07:19:30] There's two parts of this one. He captured himself two. He won the tankies for it
[07:19:37] Am I too old to understand or am I too young to understand?
[07:19:50] Crout likewise sees the world in terms of the enemy friend distinction
[07:19:55] He has his friend CBT and he has his enemy his own penis and the tankies
[07:20:06] Okay
[07:20:09] Cool stuff
[07:20:11] Tell you what I will keep reading the arrest records of the comedy secret police and you can keep posting all the things you disagree with
[07:20:17] Oh are not real pretty much all I've ever done over the years is ask you to read inside historians
[07:20:22] and you keep following it up by making things, making up things I've supposedly said are
[07:20:26] done. You understand how this doesn't make you look any more credible, right? You are
[07:20:29] just another tanky.
[07:20:42] It's funny how Kraut will castrate himself with CVT then instantly turn around and blame
[07:20:47] the tankies?
[07:20:56] Why is everybody aware of this fucking meme?
[07:21:01] OG YouTube villain, great replacement pusher who became a nafoid, Sean of YouTube made
[07:21:05] some good videos on his Nazi stuff back in the day.
[07:21:11] I don't understand.
[07:21:12] It's funny how the average tank people bend over backwards to defend Islamist death squads
[07:21:15] like Hezbollah, Houthi, Samans, RGC, or Taliban, then instantly turn around and
[07:21:20] insist that Bosnian, Crimean, Tataris, Uyghurs, and Kosovo's are the most evil
[07:21:25] Islamist terrorists ever. Who's saying that?
[07:21:33] Like, I feel like this guy just invents people in his mind and just gets mad at
[07:21:43] his own hallucinations. This man is constantly fighting demons that he made up in his own
[07:22:01] mind and he's always, there's always a tanky there that's responsible for it.
[07:22:07] is back. Canada votes Los Angeles County 65 drop. Javier Becerra, Xavier Baccaria, 48,000,
[07:22:23] Tom Steyer at 42,000, up 9, at 31.9%. Nothing for Bianco and nothing for Hilton in comparison,
[07:22:33] down. Also, in other news, sports 41, the Nix is 34. Anyway, he just keeps making shit
[07:22:57] up this this fat parrot guy as compared the US is much worse look at this year type the
[07:23:04] number of arrests for hateful massages so co-rubio locked up students in this country
[07:23:09] for their speech for speaking for a woman a young woman a hijab from turkey wrote an
[07:23:14] article in a student paper she said we should divest the whole story so pull it up whatever
[07:23:19] you want I don't know the whole story judge threw it out he said it was a chilling free
[07:23:22] speech in this country what he had a release from prison multiple cases I'm gonna give
[07:23:26] U.S. citizen. No, she's a Turkish student. She was a Turkish student here. Legal student studying a tough student here and
[07:23:32] Criticized American policy. No, she asked she said she didn't criticize the American government. She said my university toughs
[07:23:37] Hey, toughs. Can we dive that we should divest from Israel?
[07:23:40] Marco rubio lock right here. This is one right here
[07:23:43] F1 f1 the judge the judge through the case out
[07:23:45] He said it was a complete assault on free speech. In fact a Reagan judge Patrick. You don't have to trust lefties
[07:23:50] Let me quote your Reagan judge guy called William Young appointed by Ronald Reagan when he looked at the cases of all these students
[07:23:56] He said Donald Trump has launched a quote. This is his words full-throated assault on the First Amendment
[07:24:00] Right Marco Rubio is deporting people at memwood Khalil who you may not be a fan of not because they did any terrorist activity
[07:24:07] Or called for the killing of anyone but because under the 90s some random
[07:24:11] 1952 immigration law the secretary of state has the power to deport anyone
[07:24:15] He says it's undermining US foreign policy through their speed and he well
[07:24:19] It's never been tested at the Supreme Court. There's one judge who adjudicated on this law. You know what her name was?
[07:24:24] guess what her name was? Judge Marion Barry Trump. Trump's sister is the only judge to
[07:24:32] ever look at the 1952 law on its merits and she said it was unconstitutional. But it then
[07:24:36] got rejected by another court on procedural grounds. It's never been tested. You and I,
[07:24:39] if I just describe it to you, you and I think it's insane, right? The Secretary of State
[07:24:42] should not have dictatorial power. And all the laws behind it. So let's assume I'm right.
[07:24:46] Sure. Assume I'm right. You would disagree. Yeah, Trump's is woke.
[07:24:50] I agree with the idea that the Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, Marco Rubio, whoever
[07:24:54] it is, has the power unilaterally to throw out people who have broken no laws because
[07:24:58] he didn't like what they said.
[07:25:01] Surely you as a free speech guy would be opposed.
[07:25:03] And by the way, the way you're making it seem like is you're quick to forget what happened
[07:25:07] under Biden.
[07:25:08] You're quick to forget what the freedom of speech was like.
[07:25:10] I just said Blinken's name.
[07:25:11] How could you say I'm quick to forget my name?
[07:25:13] You know how many...
[07:25:14] Hold on.
[07:25:15] How could you say I'm quick to forget my name?
[07:25:16] I just said...
[07:25:17] I know.
[07:25:18] I'm just reminding you how many people on YouTube got strikes, video ads.
[07:25:20] was taken down, what things we couldn't talk about, we couldn't criticize anything about
[07:25:24] vaccine COVID.
[07:25:25] That's not true.
[07:25:26] Do you know how many strikes I got?
[07:25:28] You couldn't criticize anything about vaccines.
[07:25:30] People were criticizing, but back in June, videos were disappearing like this.
[07:25:39] You did not go to prison.
[07:25:41] Okay.
[07:25:42] Let me tell you something.
[07:25:43] You did not go to prison.
[07:25:47] You did not, uh, you, you weren't threatened by the motherfucking federal government like
[07:25:54] I am.
[07:25:55] Okay.
[07:25:57] With bullshit subpoenas, none of that should happen.
[07:26:00] You did not get deported.
[07:26:01] You can do easy research for your center report to you.
[07:26:04] Videos were disappearing like that.
[07:26:05] People that were talking, creating content, massive YouTubers weren't disappearing.
[07:26:09] Hold on, hold on.
[07:26:10] You've just made my point for me.
[07:26:11] A minute ago, you said America is much better than the UK.
[07:26:12] Now you're saying America is dictatorial too.
[07:26:14] So we're agreeing.
[07:26:15] No, no.
[07:26:16] than UK when it comes down to arrest, we don't arrest.
[07:26:20] Well, it was really s**t, I just showed you, you want me to...
[07:26:22] Joe Biden, under Biden's watchful gaze, 3,500.
[07:26:30] 3,500 peaceful campus protests were arrested, okay?
[07:26:36] So yes, we do arrest people, you're f**king wrong.
[07:26:41] That was just under Joseph Robin at Brandon, mind you,
[07:26:44] who's also just as bad as Donald Trump is on this issue. Okay.
[07:26:49] Let's be fucking real. 3,500
[07:26:53] just student protestors.
[07:26:57] No students were arrested.
[07:27:03] What do you mean? No, Susan.
[07:27:05] 3,500 students in the United States of America
[07:27:11] during the election cycle,
[07:27:14] under the Biden leadership by local police departments were arrested for exercising their
[07:27:24] first amendment rights.
[07:27:33] No, if PBD doesn't know the numbers, it didn't happen.
[07:27:36] Grockett
[07:27:39] Grockett chat GPT it now
[07:28:11] And actually, by the way, you stop it. Hold on. You guys really bad, right?
[07:28:14] When's the last time somebody knocked on your door?
[07:28:16] So many to be quiet. You're talking to the UK is right.
[07:28:18] Wait, did you do that in Florida like the other day?
[07:28:21] They do that in Florida all the time.
[07:28:24] Like, literally, you'll have the motherfucking sheriff.
[07:28:36] You'll have the motherfucking sheriff show up to someone's home
[07:28:40] And be like, what's this post about?
[07:28:44] Straight up.
[07:28:45] I don't want to defend the UK.
[07:28:46] The Labour government in the UK passed a law that criminalized Palestine action.
[07:28:51] You heard of this group, Palestine action?
[07:28:52] No.
[07:28:53] It's a group that went into paint on some, it broke into a military base and threw paint
[07:28:58] and they, I think they got into, assaulted a police officer, fought with the background
[07:29:01] about the charges as well.
[07:29:02] But they were classified as a terrorist group alongside ISIS and some far right white supremacist
[07:29:07] groups.
[07:29:08] There's no intelligence for this they've rammed it through Parliament got it voted on and then they started rounding up people
[07:29:13] I don't know if you've seen the videos
[07:29:15] Every weekend for the last few months in the UK people were protesting against the genocide little old ladies a guy in a wheelchair
[07:29:22] Vickers priests grabbed by two police officers arrested your terrorist because they said Palestine action you can't say Palestine action
[07:29:28] So I'm not going to defend the British government. They're deeply repressive right now
[07:29:31] But funnily enough Elon Musk never talks about cases like that. He always brings up the cases about
[07:29:35] Tommy Robinson, all of that stuff. He doesn't know you're a big fan. Oh, yeah
[07:29:39] And he's a big fan of mine, but the biggest but the biggest threat right now
[07:29:42] There's no more repressive law than this law they did to basically if you go out and say Palestine action
[07:29:46] He said the two words if I go to the UK tomorrow and say Palestine action, I will be arrested
[07:29:50] So what do you think about what happened to Henry? No, weck
[07:29:52] Please Henry Henry. You don't know who Henry. No, weck is I will if you remind me if you can you pull it up, right?
[07:29:57] Henry. No, weck. This is the guy in
[07:29:59] Southampton, England last year December 3rd, 2025 18 year old kid is going home
[07:30:04] murdered by Vikram Digwa. The video just came out. The Vikram guy stabs Henry
[07:30:14] Nowak. This is the problem. Media is not even talking about this. Stabs Henry Nowak.
[07:30:17] I don't know how many times. Cut and stab Nowak. A total of five times would
[07:30:22] What does this have to do with free speech?
[07:30:37] What does this have to do with anything that they were just talking about?
[07:30:43] He just went, what about this guy?
[07:30:45] He got killed.
[07:30:46] It's like, okay, that's a horrible story.
[07:30:51] devastating. What do you want me to say about this? You know? Bro, this is boomer leftovers.
[07:31:09] It's just him saying, I'm scared of this. Look.
[07:31:12] Look, just scared me when I found out about it, it scared me.
[07:31:20] I couldn't even chat GPT it.
[07:31:24] Huge story in the UK right now, okay.
[07:31:32] So Henry Noack, 18-year-old British university student who was murdered by Vikram Degwa.
[07:31:37] Digwa's 23-year-old British Sikh man cut a stab no-act total of 5 times in the night
[07:31:42] when police arrived.
[07:31:43] Digwa accused Noak of assault and the officers' Hank of Noak.
[07:31:47] He died shortly after being Hank of what the fuck?
[07:31:51] Shortly before the stabbing, Noak filmed Digwa walking away from him during a verbal altercation.
[07:31:55] Digwa maintained that he acted in self-defense after Noak continued pursuing him, made racist
[07:31:59] remarks and punched him.
[07:32:00] Prosecutors argued that these allegations were baseless and fabricated in an attempt to justify
[07:32:03] the stabbing.
[07:32:04] The jury convicted Digwell of murder on the 28th of May, 2026, Digwell's mother was found
[07:32:10] guilty of assisting an offender.
[07:32:12] The judge rejected Digwell's accusations that NOAC had physically or racially abused them.
[07:32:16] Digwell received a life sentence with a minimum of 21 years.
[07:32:20] The police response to the crime recorded on body-worn cameras was referred to the independent
[07:32:24] police.
[07:32:25] They're trying to use as a case of counter to BLM and want to portray the people against
[07:32:29] police violence, or if the students only care about it, if the person is POC.
[07:32:34] You didn't hear about this?
[07:32:45] Made you look Patrick by David Wins.
[07:32:47] Yeah, here's the thing I don't understand.
[07:32:51] Well, like we're having a conversation about like out of the two countries, like which
[07:32:56] one respects free speech less, right?
[07:33:00] I don't even know if I agree with Matthew's take that like America respects free speech
[07:33:04] less than the UK, but this has nothing to do with that.
[07:33:09] This is just like regular policing competence.
[07:33:16] Is there like a real systemic problem with like white people being stabbed and then being
[07:33:22] arrested falsely because the black or brown perpetrator falsely claimed that the white
[07:33:32] stabbing victim. First of all, why are cops handcuffing stabbing victims? Even if they're
[07:33:40] a perpetrator, why are you handcuffing them if they have been stabbed? That's a little insane.
[07:33:46] and like that that in and of himself is very strange to me but also is that like a like
[07:33:56] a real they didn't believe that he was stabbed what the fuck they thought he was faking no
[07:34:13] Cause the Sikh guy lied. Sure. I got that. But why didn't they check?
[07:34:22] But what do you mean? There's just a dude.
[07:34:25] There's just a dude who is sitting there stabbed and he's like, I've been stabbed.
[07:34:29] And the cop is like, step right over here. You're getting arrested scum. Like that's what they,
[07:34:35] who trained these guys, dude? Reno, the police department? Who the fuck?
[07:34:39] Look, that's like American levels of police incompetence.
[07:34:52] The BWV shows that the officers attending didn't believe he had been stabbed.
[07:34:56] I don't think so, mate.
[07:34:57] I think it's one of the officers' words.
[07:34:59] The policing problem where instead of assessing the situation,
[07:35:01] probably they're just immediately going to restrain people.
[07:35:03] Yeah.
[07:35:09] The
[07:35:31] argument is that the police showed racial bias favoring non-whites.
[07:35:38] Are people sincerely making an argument that police are woke in the UK?
[07:35:42] Is it upside down world over there?
[07:35:44] What the fuck's going on?
[07:35:47] People are sincerely using this one incident.
[07:35:50] This one instance as a clear cut example that police in every single circumstance will favor
[07:35:58] the non-white person.
[07:36:03] Is this a real common issue?
[07:36:06] I'm still confused as to what this has to do with the argument that was presented about
[07:36:19] free speech protections in America versus the UK.
[07:36:37] So no one is blaming the cops in general or blaming police malpractice here, or rather,
[07:36:44] if they're blaming police malpractice, they're saying the real malpractice is that the cops
[07:36:47] are too woke, I guess, and always believe black and brown people. They call it two tier
[07:36:58] policing. Okay, are you are UK cops actually woke? I don't think so. Is that a thing? The
[07:37:11] The police are blaming DEI training?
[07:37:30] Wow.
[07:37:31] I guess it's cool seeing other countries be just as stupid as we are, you know, in some
[07:37:37] It makes me feel like I'm not so alone
[07:37:43] Right Henry know act died the same way civilization dies abandoned handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him
[07:37:49] And accused of hate crimes he did not commit his murder is as tragic as it is enraging
[07:37:53] I mean it is tragic. It is enraging. I mean, it's it's totally fucking ridiculous
[07:37:58] But I feel like you don't really care about this at all if you're just using this as a jump-off point to
[07:38:04] to land up an insane position out of nowhere.
[07:38:11] Do things happen in the world of conservatives
[07:38:16] where like there's like malpractice or incompetence
[07:38:19] or inept to demonstrate it in that moment
[07:38:21] that doesn't immediately correspond
[07:38:23] to like broad systemic hallucinations
[07:38:27] like white people being under attack by minorities?
[07:38:34] The fear of being called racist was greater than dealing with Henry Noaxe's murder which
[07:38:49] he responds with pure cold rage.
[07:38:51] The fear of being called racist was greater than dealing with Henry Noaxe's murder?
[07:39:04] Who's afraid of being called racist?
[07:39:08] I've never, I have not met people that are afraid of being called racist.
[07:39:14] As a matter of fact, it almost feels like they love being called racist the way that they behave usually.
[07:39:21] I just don't think that that's a real, I don't think there's a real fear in any western society at this point where people are just like,
[07:39:33] Oh, no, I'm gonna be called racist.
[07:39:41] I mean, I get called racist all the fucking time.
[07:39:54] Like all the time.
[07:39:55] Nonstop the ADL has spent tireless amounts of money and
[07:40:00] And efforts to to not only call me a racist, but also like try to get me deplatformed and shit
[07:40:07] So I assume you skipped a riot Tommy Robinson triggered together with Nigel in the UK
[07:40:11] Yeah, I didn't know that UK was having riots again Jesus Christ
[07:40:15] I
[07:40:18] When police arrived big white hues no lack of assault and
[07:40:22] Officers handcuff no whack he died shortly after being handcuffed the video came out
[07:40:26] I think yesterday Rob if you want to pull it up and it showed the guy can't breathe the riot
[07:40:32] There was a riot following for I just call for rage 11 officers injured classics the gaseous terrorism. Excuse me
[07:40:39] That was a brave act where it seems like
[07:40:42] Like the British public was no longer afraid of being called racist.
[07:40:47] Or are they still afraid of being called racist?
[07:40:49] I don't know.
[07:40:51] I'm confused about this being called racist thing.
[07:40:56] He's having a hard time breathing.
[07:40:58] He's telling the cops, I can't breathe.
[07:41:00] I can't breathe.
[07:41:01] I can't breathe.
[07:41:02] All of a sudden he dies and they said, no, you said some racist comments, Rob, I send
[07:41:07] a video to you in the notes.
[07:41:09] If you go to it.
[07:41:10] Okay.
[07:41:11] Point of that, but I'm gonna say what's the point. No, no, it's horrible. No, but because the cops
[07:41:16] Excited with the law. They said the law told them. Okay. What's the broader point Patrick? This is a horrible situation
[07:41:25] Like what when guys like this brings stuff like this up I wonder always like what's what you think I'm gonna be like
[07:41:31] Like what do you think methe's gonna turn around and be like that's awesome
[07:41:35] He deserved to die. Is that what you think is gonna happen here? Like what's the fucking point?
[07:41:41] Yes, I'm not I'm not exactly a fan of police. I don't think they do a good job that he made
[07:41:52] racist comments. And with the guy saying I was stabbed by these guys, he's running away.
[07:41:57] They caught him. The guy had an eight inch knife that's for the seeker. What do you call
[07:42:01] it? The ceremonial knife that they have, you know, which one I'm talking about, which
[07:42:06] now he gets stabbed. I didn't want to ban. Can you I did see British politicians say
[07:42:10] They want to ban it and I didn't realize the context. This is the context and this is a contest and they said they wanted to ban it
[07:42:14] Here's stormer came out today and said no, we're not gonna ban it
[07:42:16] But you know what you can't have in England, you know, we can't have an England you can't even have pepper spray
[07:42:21] Pepper spray is not been legal since 60, but they can have that knife how that makes any sense
[07:42:25] So for me you and I can cherry pick stories on both sides to create rage on why this or that?
[07:42:31] But the stats are the stats what so when you're saying wait, do you think the stats are on your side on this incident?
[07:42:38] Is there an epidemic of white people being stabbed and then being lied about and then cops coming up on the series
[07:42:45] Seen and being like well, we're woke
[07:42:48] Well, I'm woke now go to arrest the water stabbing victim in eight. Is that what's going on?
[07:42:55] What are you fucking insane? What stat is there for this this incident? I mean, this is a horrifying situation
[07:43:01] It's it's you know through and through police incompetence. Okay classic case
[07:43:08] But I just don't think that, I don't think that this is like a commonplace situation.
[07:43:17] The father of Henry Nowak wants to make it illegal for Sikhs to carry
[07:43:20] Kirpal's ceremony dagger now reform wants a ban to the Sikh community saying the knife is,
[07:43:24] the knife used was not a Kirpal and has condemned the murder.
[07:43:29] Yeah, I, dude, England is so strange because they do have knife bans.
[07:43:34] I don't have an opinion on this. I don't understand it.
[07:43:38] I don't even understand why like the the sick population want to have cure ponds on them
[07:43:45] But I also don't even understand why there's a like a like knife control
[07:43:56] What is the what's the religious significance of the cure pond I
[07:44:02] Feel like this is one of those things that they tweak the algorithm on so that we talk about this
[07:44:08] Sometimes, sometimes there will be like a totally new thing that I've never encountered before and I feel like I'm fairly tapped in to like all of the comings and goings and the debates and then there will be like this new thing all of a sudden and everyone's talking about I'm like,
[07:44:24] Is this, like what, how did this happen? How is this like a big point of contention? When did this,
[07:44:32] like what's the what's the driving motivator here it's like oh if i can't have one he can't
[07:44:39] too is that what it is like are you are you jealous that sick people get to have a religious
[07:44:45] knife but you don't get to have a knife it's one of the five k's alongside uncut clean
[07:44:58] hair and a beard and a certain underwear, metal bracelet and a hair comb.
[07:45:04] Oh, I did not know that.
[07:45:06] I didn't know that every sick person always carries a knife with them at all times.
[07:45:16] Because you can't go around with a samurai sword is why gangs use knives, a lot of big
[07:45:27] zombie knives? Knife controls because they're the go-to for games the users we
[07:45:32] don't have guns you can't buy a kitchen knife in a store if you're a kid it
[07:45:35] sounds hysterical but it did used to be a thing it's like half real problem half
[07:45:39] overblown by the media
[07:45:48] that's kind of cool that like your religion is your religion forces you to
[07:45:55] carry it a knife on you at all times. Wait, you can carry it on a plane?
[07:46:08] Lots of carapans don't actually come out of the sheath. It's bolted in.
[07:46:16] That's kind of cool. That's a cool religious practice. I like that. I think they should keep it.
[07:46:21] I think that should not be banned.
[07:46:25] There you go. I've decided.
[07:46:29] Sorry. Sorry to all the people who wanted the Kitapan to be banned.
[07:46:44] Sick Organizations describe the Kitapan as an article of faith that symbolizes dignity and a duty to stand against injustice and protect the vulnerable.
[07:46:51] You're just in the American algo more context you media trying to make it a story too very enthusiastically. I'm unsure
[07:46:58] Do sick people even have like is that even a stereotype that like they get violent or something? I don't think so, right?
[07:47:12] Literally the chillest people anecdotally speaking at least
[07:47:21] I guess they're brown and they have big beards right so that's
[07:47:31] Seeks are literally the edos model minority they have so many tokens lamal
[07:47:40] Yeah, no they do get confused for muslims because they because of the garb and the turban and the beard
[07:47:51] I can't believe we've moved on to so many different places from this conversation, but
[07:48:06] at least I learned a new cool thing.
[07:48:08] That story about America and UK, you hear a story like this.
[07:48:11] Where's the rage with this?
[07:48:12] Where's the outrage with this?
[07:48:13] That's not even a free speech story.
[07:48:14] We were talking about free speech.
[07:48:15] You brought up stats about social media arrests, and I'm saying to you right now in the U.S.,
[07:48:19] You can be arrested by this government detained for a year without child.
[07:48:22] If there's a 10 to 1 fight happening, you're morally obligated to jump in in defense of
[07:48:26] the one.
[07:48:27] Are you making a, are you making a phonomy?
[07:48:31] Because I do that?
[07:48:32] Or are you saying that's like the Sikh credo?
[07:48:34] Hodge?
[07:48:36] Because you said something the government doesn't like about Israel.
[07:48:38] By the way, about a foreign country.
[07:48:39] It's not even about the American government.
[07:48:40] Yeah.
[07:48:41] You're not even criticizing the American government.
[07:48:42] You're criticizing a foreign government.
[07:48:43] I'm going to go look it up and I'll give you my response to you, personally, yourself.
[07:48:45] Look up.
[07:48:46] Have them on your show.
[07:48:47] Have Mohsen Madawi on your show.
[07:48:48] I have butter con sury using court right now on your show Georgetown students
[07:48:52] These guys were picked up off the streets by men unmasked men on my people love America. Yes
[07:48:58] Yes, I don't know are they planning on staying here going back
[07:49:01] I'm a mood Khalil is married. He has a kid. He had a kid while he was in prison
[07:49:04] Donald Trump the family values party the public body didn't let this guy be with his wife when she gave birth didn't let him
[07:49:09] Hold his baby. What do you say about Henry? No, I would I just showed you that's horrific. That's you you kidding
[07:49:13] That's horrific, but but this I don't know that's I don't know details, but obviously the police got wrong
[07:49:16] This is the part that kind of so you represented the
[07:49:20] Media on the left. Okay, so Rob. Can you go back to that story that New York Times if you search the two different words?
[07:49:26] Of George Floyd versus what happened with Novak Novak you once you had it up right now a minute ago
[07:49:32] What is the argument man? What does this have to do with?
[07:49:36] bro, what does this have to do with with what?
[07:49:41] Matthew was Matthew and you were talking about
[07:49:44] about moments ago. This thing is gone completely off the rails, man. I am
[07:50:00] valutane though, as always. Come on, you're gonna do this. No, the media is fine. The
[07:50:05] media is. But wait a minute. Wait, this is New York Times. Go to the first one. No,
[07:50:08] I found it in the news. You tap in Henry Nowak. How many names? Results 19. Go to
[07:50:12] the next one Rob. George Floyd 6397. There is no incentive to tell the story because
[07:50:19] it doesn't go with the narrative. So I disagree with you. I grew up in the UK right when media
[07:50:23] has been telling these stories all my life. All my life all I've seen is black people
[07:50:27] and muslim people on the front page. Have you looked at the front page of the Daily Mail,
[07:50:31] the Daily Express? What do you mean the UK is being destroyed? You think the UK is doing
[07:50:33] good? Yeah, I mean no, but not for the reasons you think. So why do you think the UK is not
[07:50:37] doing good? I think economically it's being very badly. It had very leadership for the
[07:50:41] last 15 years. The Conservative government that came in 2010 did an austerity program
[07:50:46] after the financial crisis, basically destroyed. David Cameron and George Osborne did an austerity
[07:50:51] program that basically gutted the British state, gutted our competitor and didn't cut
[07:50:55] the deficit, actually ruined our fiscal credibility, downgraded our credit rating, destroyed our
[07:51:00] growth over the course of a decade, undermined our health service.
[07:51:04] You put anything tied to immigration to that?
[07:51:06] None.
[07:51:07] None.
[07:51:08] Immigration has been a boost for the British economy. In fact, cutting immigration to
[07:51:10] Look at Brexit. Brexit's been a disaster for the British government. Do you know how many people in Britain want to rejoin the EU?
[07:51:15] A majority. Pull that up. The majority of Britons want to go back into the EU.
[07:51:18] Yeah, he said, I'm a numbers guy too. I can be a numbers guy too. You're not a numbers guy, Matthew.
[07:51:23] Don't try to be a numbers guy. You don't get to tell Vinny to push it up.
[07:51:27] Do you think that is? Why do you think that is, Pat? Do you think? Do you think? Why do you think Britons want to go back into the EU?
[07:51:32] I, I, I, you know... You just said Britain's being destroyed. No, but I think they want to rejoin the EU.
[07:51:37] You look at the crime numbers, what's going on in UK crime is very low.
[07:51:41] Have you looked at, I think one of the funniest things that I genuinely love about Patrick
[07:51:46] bed David is in his mind, he's truly white.
[07:51:51] Like he behaves with the, with the confidence and the swagger of a white man.
[07:51:58] And I think in his mind, he's like, like when people go, Hey, you know, you're not white,
[07:52:03] right?
[07:52:04] Like he's just like shocked by it sometimes.
[07:52:07] He literally thinks he's part of the team like 100%.
[07:52:15] And I love it.
[07:52:16] I love him and I love that for him.
[07:52:22] And it's really funny because I don't think anybody that's in his immediate vicinity reads
[07:52:29] him as white at all.
[07:52:33] The only reason why he can have this level of delusion is because he's in Miami and Miami
[07:52:39] is the place for guys who are not white who think they are.
[07:52:46] So he's surrounded by other Patrick Bed-David, so we're just like, yeah, I'm a numbers guy
[07:52:50] too.
[07:52:51] What do you mean?
[07:52:52] The crime is very low, Patrick.
[07:52:56] So let me ask you.
[07:52:57] You know the crime rate in London?
[07:52:58] Did you see the tweet that came out?
[07:52:59] You're not a fan of Sadeq Khan.
[07:53:00] You're not a fan of my good friend Sadeq Khan.
[07:53:03] EU that you saw the tweet that came out what you were saying they're doing that they want to find a way to get rid of illegal immigrants
[07:53:09] Okay, jumping around Patrick Britain is not in the EU. We're talking about Britain
[07:53:11] You just said Britain's being destroyed which is nonsense and then you said crime rate
[07:53:15] Have you looked at the London crime rates? You'd last year London housing had its lowest per capita murder rate since records began
[07:53:22] Had the lowest volume of homicides for 30 years underside
[07:53:25] It can't third term mayor who people in America'd Elon Musk Donald Trump get very worked up about
[07:53:30] I don't know if you guys get worked up about him being a very successful man and crime has come down by record numbers
[07:53:35] But oh when you're looking at you, do you know which country? Uh-oh
[07:53:41] When the numbers guy encounters the other numbers guy
[07:53:50] No, he's getting numbers mugged
[07:53:53] No
[07:53:55] He's getting numbers
[07:53:57] New you has the lowest rate you came out stay with you. Okay, so stay with you. Yeah, he's just
[07:54:04] trying to this or I was like, oh, what about the EU? What about the UK? Okay. How about Italy to me?
[07:54:10] I'll put them somewhat together in the area. They left. By the way, so you're saying immigration coming from all these countries
[07:54:16] been a successful project for the EU. What's your definition of success?
[07:54:21] Many different ways you can, I'm a EU desperate needs migrants. Have you seen the age rate club the demographic?
[07:54:26] Okay, so the man dying continent with a very low birth or is Elon Musk like so so when you think they got no one there to work to pay taxes to look after the elderly to run the health services
[07:54:35] Etc. Maybe maybe the one argument. I'll go to to see what you'll say about this
[07:54:38] Do you think the West when it comes on to West?
[07:54:41] Muslims can coexist well with a handbrake curious. I'm curious
[07:54:45] We went from Britain's being destroyed to London crown to EU to muscle. I'm curious. Okay. We got to tell me tell me where you're with this
[07:54:50] Do you think I'm Muslim? I think my thinking coexists. Do you think I can coexist? I think you can coexist
[07:54:55] line me educated your you're a worker you're now a capitalist you're contributing you're
[07:55:04] creating jobs I would say you're not positive you don't think most Muslims do that I don't
[07:55:10] think depending on where they're coming from they don't because if their countries did
[07:55:14] a good job why would they leave it?
[07:55:16] Whoa?
[07:55:23] Again are you with that?
[07:55:28] He's so racist.
[07:55:32] Dog you're fucking brown.
[07:55:37] Do you?
[07:55:39] You're Iranian and a business owner
[07:55:44] Talking to it a British Indian guy who's also a business owner in America. You're like, well, you know, we are the good ones
[07:55:55] That's awesome
[07:56:01] Oh, this is so stupid look at Matty's face like what?
[07:56:09] That's great. Thank you, man. Thank you. Thank you, Patrick, Matt, David. And thank you,
[07:56:16] Matthew Hassan. This has been wonderful so far. We caused, worried that who caused.
[07:56:20] So we caused. So they're leaving because of us. Well, you know, the, you know,
[07:56:24] the big controversy in the UK over the boats, the small boats coming across the channel.
[07:56:27] Do you know what the top three nationalities are in those boats? Tell me. Iran number one.
[07:56:31] Okay. Afghanistan number two, Iraq number three. So Iran is a current war. Let's park Iran.
[07:56:37] Are you telling me we're not responsible? Yes, I can rock come on when you look at this. Let me show you this
[07:56:42] Right. Can you pull this up?
[07:56:44] When it comes down to yes, you see which one I got here. I love Rob bring up these
[07:56:49] No, I love he brings it up. I know you like number. No, I love I love being proven. I know you like number
[07:56:56] He's doing new ones. He's using new sound. I know you like number
[07:57:01] bring up these I love it brings it up I know you like number no I love I love
[07:57:06] I know you're like number I'm a numbers guy I know you like number I will show
[07:57:16] you I will show you Rob bring the numbers up
[07:57:24] you can prove right as well as per capital my ego no no no no per capita per
[07:57:28] Capita when you look at the countries, Rob, I think you got it golf states how they perform per capita versus some of the other
[07:57:36] Muslim nation look at this one here because they got oil and gas you think it's only oil and gas
[07:57:41] Yes, I'm in the big. Did you know what these countries are like? Let me ask you
[07:57:51] He didn't just do that that's so calm
[07:57:54] He's so fucking that's awesome, dude
[07:58:01] That is fucking awesome
[07:58:07] Iran has plenty of oil. Yeah, I'm they're not in here. Maybe I was that oil
[07:58:11] I'll see a question, but this isn't this is been going on for a minute
[07:58:14] This is not a one-year thing can answer your question. Sure. Why do you think Iran's not doing well economically?
[07:58:18] Should I go through the list? You're gonna say it's sanctions. You're gonna say something to say
[07:58:22] You're gonna say it's America's fault. Not just America's fault. So how come?
[07:58:25] But Polly, hold on, hold on. How much, okay, you left Iran during the Iran-Iraq war, right?
[07:58:29] I left Iran after Khomeini died, six weeks after Khomeini died.
[07:58:33] Okay, so Iran-Iraq was done by then. So Iran-Iraq was... 15th, 89th.
[07:58:37] So Iran-Iraq was done. Iran-Iraq was done. It was done.
[07:58:39] 1980s, 1980s. Yes. $600 billion of damage done to Iranian infrastructure, the economy, the cost of that war.
[07:58:44] That was a war that set up. Who's fault is that?
[07:58:46] Who's fault is that? Oh, you put it on Sudan.
[07:58:48] Who's fault do you think it is? So who invaded?
[07:58:50] By the way, hold up. Hold up. You come on. You don't at all put that on IRGC. No, I put it on the guy put it on Islamic Revolutionary
[07:58:57] I put it on the country that invades the other country. That's how the world works
[07:59:00] I blame Russia for the Ukraine will they have a hard time getting along with other people?
[07:59:04] Why does Saddam who's a you you put on no no no no no why does Iran have a hard time getting along with other?
[07:59:09] That was when I said I said there was a Iran or a war you said is America to blame I said
[07:59:12] Yes, we back Saddam Hussein. Did we not back for them the same did Donald Rumsfeld not fly and hug you can pick up a
[07:59:17] Rob can bring up a video with Donald Rumsfeld hugging Saddam Hussein in 1983 in Baghdad
[07:59:23] Were we not supporting the Iraqi invasion of Iran that cost Iran a million lives?
[07:59:28] 100 billion dollars in damage. You're saying that didn't play any role in Iran's economic. Why why don't they answer my question?
[07:59:35] No, but you don't know what I'm saying what I'm no no, but many let me let me I mean he is fucking
[07:59:40] He's dogwalking him so hard that he has like reduced in size.
[07:59:51] Which is once again as a big Patrick Bette David fan, shameful and I don't like Matthew
[07:59:56] Hassan's performance here.
[07:59:58] He is, he's hurting my goat too hard, okay?
[08:00:05] He's hurting my goat too hard.
[08:00:07] I don't like it.
[08:00:13] I know you like number.
[08:00:18] I know you like number.
[08:00:20] Oh, I mean, that's going to be my new stem, probably.
[08:00:25] I know you like number.
[08:00:27] I'm a numbers guy.
[08:00:29] I know you like number.
[08:00:32] Why the hell are you going to try
[08:00:33] to debate someone who literally has a book called
[08:00:35] win every argument. Yeah. I already read the comments. Everyone's fucking talking about
[08:00:43] how meant the dog walked him. This is embarrassing.
[08:00:48] No, but, but look, let's give credit to, for instance, when mom Danny goes to the White
[08:00:58] House, you and I both give credit to both of them. Oh, he's like, remember the time
[08:01:02] And when we agreed, can we do that again?
[08:01:05] He's literally doing it.
[08:01:07] He's like, remember how good it was when you weren't defeating me and instead we were
[08:01:12] agreeing.
[08:01:14] We need to go back to that being diplomatic.
[08:01:16] Okay.
[08:01:17] Right?
[08:01:18] Yeah.
[08:01:19] Do you think Iranian leadership with the IRGC is diplomatic?
[08:01:20] No.
[08:01:21] Have they been horrific?
[08:01:22] Okay.
[08:01:23] This is, this is cowardly for Manti.
[08:01:26] Yes, they have.
[08:01:27] They absolutely have.
[08:01:29] Iranian leadership has been unfathomably diplomatic. As a matter of fact, until the last iteration
[08:01:37] of the Operation Epstein's Fury, the Iranian diplomacy side was so aggressively restrained
[08:01:47] that it was perceived as a fucking weakness by both America and Israel.
[08:01:52] And, and that is literally part of the reason why I think Donald Trump was goaded into,
[08:01:58] Donald Trump was goaded into thinking, oh yeah, we can defeat these guys, they're so
[08:02:02] scared of us.
[08:02:06] It's not even a comparison between the United States of America, the serial violator of
[08:02:10] all international rules and norms and Israel also, and Iran.
[08:02:15] Yes, it sounds insane to say this, but as far as international diplomacy goes, international
[08:02:20] relations goes, 100% Iran is far more aware, far more restrained, and far more diplomatic
[08:02:31] than both Israel and the United States of America.
[08:02:36] This is nothing to do with internal repression, domestic repression, things of that nature.
[08:02:41] Obviously, I'm not defending things that the Iranian government does in that regard.
[08:02:48] And as far as like international relations goes, yes.
[08:02:58] I think in their leadership, I think they've, again, they've given themselves, they've given their opponents a stick with which to beat them.
[08:03:03] I was a big critic of Ahmadinejad back in the day, he had done things.
[08:03:07] So do you think Khomeini was good for Iran?
[08:03:09] Do you think Khomeini was good for Iran?
[08:03:12] No, in hindsight, of course not. If you look at the records today, what I'm trying to do is, I'm trying to...
[08:03:17] I've said this before, I went on PS4, wait. Okay, once again, hard disagree on that issue as well.
[08:03:25] I mean, if you don't want Khomeini or Hemen-A, don't intervene in the Iranian affairs. Like,
[08:03:35] the revolution doesn't happen if America doesn't install a puppet leader and instigate a coup.
[08:03:47] Just to be clear, for people who don't know, I'm Shia, I'm a Shia.
[08:03:51] I know you're a Shia.
[08:03:52] Yeah.
[08:03:53] Which is the majority of religion in Iran.
[08:03:54] Sure.
[08:03:55] Right?
[08:03:56] So, I do, but there are two types of Shias.
[08:03:57] This is a very crude, I'm trying to explain to the audience.
[08:04:00] Religiously, theologically, politically, there's two types of Shias.
[08:04:02] There are those who believe in what's called Vilayate Faki, WF.
[08:04:06] They believe that Khomeini, sort of political theory, a religious, some say religious theory,
[08:04:09] pushed by Artula Khomeini that said that the clerics, the Artulis, the Mullahs, whatever
[08:04:14] you want to call them, they should rule.
[08:04:16] Power should be with them.
[08:04:17] That is the model that Iran has followed.
[08:04:18] There is another school of thought that comes out of Iraq mainly out of a city called Najif
[08:04:22] and an idol called Sistani who is the leading Shia idol in Iraq today.
[08:04:25] And they say, no, no, we are all for religion.
[08:04:27] We're all, you know, we want everyone to practice Islam, Shia Islam.
[08:04:30] But we're not going to rule.
[08:04:32] After the American top of Saddam,
[08:04:35] Ayatollah Sistani did not do a Khomeini.
[08:04:36] He did not say, I'm going to become supreme leader of Iraq.
[08:04:38] He said, have elections, democracy, vote.
[08:04:41] I'm going to stay in my house and I'm going to give you advice,
[08:04:43] religious advice when you need it.
[08:04:44] I follow the Ayatollah Sistani view of the world crudely putt. I don't follow the Ayatollah Khomeini view of the world
[08:04:49] So when you say to me, will you good for Iran as a governmental system? No, I don't support the governing system of Iran
[08:04:55] But it's to me, but but you're changing the subject. You're avoiding that you are not there was a war
[08:04:59] We were talking about Iran trust me
[08:05:01] I witnessed it. I understand you should entertain the idea of living in a Muslim majority country. See what I like
[08:05:07] I understand you live there. You jump. Oh
[08:05:14] Oh my God, what the fuck does it have to do with, with the guys?
[08:05:19] The conversation started because Patrick, but David said something
[08:05:23] unbelievably racist that was so racist that I thought it was funny.
[08:05:28] Cause you just like casually said, why would Muslims leave their countries
[08:05:33] if there were run so good?
[08:05:35] And that's the reason why Muslims actually don't succeed in the Western world.
[08:05:39] And therefore they're not a benefit, but a burden.
[08:05:42] That was the implication.
[08:05:43] That wasn't like three or four arguments ago. That was the argument and now we've arrived at I
[08:05:51] Lived in a majority Muslim country and it sucked
[08:05:55] And that Muslims can't coexist for the most part in the Western world with others
[08:06:02] You go around I'm not what I'm what you would you look at that economy Iran
[08:06:06] I'll let you finish your thought and then I'll go back to my question that I have
[08:06:10] I'm going to finish my thought, well it's a thought that requires a response from you,
[08:06:13] which is, if there's an eight-year war that Iraq started and we supported that cost $600
[08:06:19] billion to Iran, that took out a million members of their population and then was followed
[08:06:23] by crazy sanctions, are you telling me then that it's fair to compare that economy with
[08:06:28] Abu Dhabi?
[08:06:29] Are you seriously telling me that's a fair comparison?
[08:06:31] Can you go back and go back to that chart again, Rob, for me?
[08:06:34] So you just defended Iraq, right, that we backed up Iraq.
[08:06:38] Yes.
[08:06:39] against Iran. Yeah. How come they're not on the top GDP per capita on this list? Do you
[08:06:50] know what happened to Iraq after Iran? Now you have another reason. It's America's fault
[08:06:54] again. I mean, do you study history? We don't know what happened in 1992. We're going to
[08:06:58] go. Why do you got to bring up information like that? Who cares if America just did sanctions
[08:07:08] on Iraq. I'm a numbers guy, and these are numbers that I'm unfamiliar with. I didn't
[08:07:14] chat GPT it, I didn't grok it, look at the numbers I put in front of you, and don't look
[08:07:19] at any other numbers or other events that have happened throughout history.
[08:07:23] The Gulf of Tadassia, this is going to be invaded the way.
[08:07:26] They can put language for you to say so on one end, you're saying this on the other end,
[08:07:31] so no, it's because of this.
[08:07:32] You're comparing countries, you're showing me a graph, comparing countries that have
[08:07:36] have never been bombed invaded or occupied with countries that have been bombed invaded
[08:07:40] or occupied and then you say, why is the GDP per capita higher in one not the other?
[08:07:43] That's an insane comparison.
[08:07:44] Why have they made so much progress?
[08:07:47] Why?
[08:07:48] They're a Muslim majority.
[08:07:49] Yeah.
[08:07:50] Okay, why have they made so much progress?
[08:07:51] I mean, first of all, and by the way, at this point, just so you know, the argument
[08:07:54] is now not about Muslim.
[08:07:55] I know it's not.
[08:07:56] I know, but the argument is why are some winning some or not?
[08:07:59] And why is the war plays a big role in this?
[08:08:01] Well, Medi, a part of it makes sense.
[08:08:03] point to that to you the three biggest refugee groups on the boats going into
[08:08:06] England are Iran Iraq Afghanistan coincidence no those are war-torn
[08:08:10] countries that I'm bad disputing that what I'm trying to tell you is even with
[08:08:14] that if you sit here and say every single time everything is in America's
[08:08:18] fault what what responsibility to do they take do they take any responsibility
[08:08:22] they're not making a right just to be clear people can rewind I don't rub
[08:08:26] does screenshots but people on watching on YouTube can rewind never did I say
[08:08:30] It's all America's fault. I never said that. I'm very have you read you said you've read my stuff
[08:08:35] You've seen my stuff. I've seen you're very critical of Muslim majority countries. I am very critical of the Iranian government
[08:08:40] I'm very critical of the Saudi government. I'm very critical. What's the back of the Emirates?
[08:08:43] What do you think they can do? I do a show for Al Jazeera, and I grilled the Qatari Foreign Minister on that show about the lack of democracy
[08:08:48] I'm critical of the Arab government, Muslim government, Pakistan
[08:08:52] Do you think the Middle East is a safer place with IRGC in charge of running America or somebody like a Pesitian?
[08:09:00] What a moderate of course, I'm more of a moderate. I would like to see and again who undermine the moderates and okay
[08:09:05] I have a better argument here. I think
[08:09:08] IRGC and its militancy
[08:09:10] Would have caused sufficient military deterrence
[08:09:14] Against Israel and may have even allowed Iran to develop a nuclear weapon and therefore would have had would have created an environment of
[08:09:23] Long-standing peace far before this current iteration of the conflict ever took place
[08:09:27] There is a real argument here that, there is, I mean he said IRGC running America, but I think he meant Iran for the record, so I'm just like skipping past that point, because that'd be really funny.
[08:09:38] funny. But yes, there is a real argument here for there being more regional stability
[08:09:52] if Iran had shied away from the path of strategic restraint and moved in the direction of deterrence.
[08:10:02] Yeah, it's the North Korea argument, obviously.
[08:10:11] Iran, sorry, it's going to be the consulate of the United States of America.
[08:10:17] No, no, I disagree.
[08:10:18] The United States of America.
[08:10:19] No, I disagree.
[08:10:20] I don't think that's the case.
[08:10:21] Israel.
[08:10:22] Oh, well.
[08:10:23] No, no, I don't.
[08:10:24] I'll proxy then.
[08:10:25] No, but listen to me.
[08:10:26] You were not expecting my answer.
[08:10:27] No, but I don't accept this fake split.
[08:10:28] No, but this is not it, but let me tell you what I do.
[08:10:31] What I see going on right now is I see Israel in a way. I actually like what's taking place
[08:10:37] Let me explain to why I like what's taking place a
[08:10:39] part of what's going on right now is
[08:10:43] The world is able to see
[08:10:46] BB's motive versus Trump's motive motive
[08:10:49] Like you remember that one time when the the Trump and BB are on stage speaking and he's saying yeah
[08:10:54] We're thinking about taking over Gaza. We're gonna build a hotel here and AC BB goes like wait what?
[08:10:59] What?
[08:11:00] You never told me that.
[08:11:01] I don't know if you remember that session or not.
[08:11:03] So part of it for me, I like that this is happening because I prefer this to be in the
[08:11:09] public's eye.
[08:11:11] I prefer for Trump to show, hey, listen, if I want to go become a prime minister of Israel,
[08:11:15] I would do it.
[08:11:16] You're there just because of me.
[08:11:17] I like him saying that publicly.
[08:11:19] I like that that is taking place.
[08:11:20] But to me, who wants IRGC to be gone?
[08:11:24] So a couple of things.
[08:11:26] On the Trump point, I agree.
[08:11:27] of these things happen in public and there is a weird upside to Trump having such a big mouth and
[08:11:31] saying crazy shit all the time. There is a pro to that, I get that. But let's not forget, Patrick,
[08:11:35] you saw the New York Times big piece where we discovered from Jonathan Haberman, Maggie Haberman
[08:11:41] and Jonathan Swan that Benjamin Netanyahu went to the Situation Room and made the case to Trump
[08:11:47] with Mossad joining via Zoom or wherever it was, and he persuaded Trump that this will be a walk in
[08:11:52] the park, cake walk, all of that shit. That happened in private.
[08:11:55] Your percentage that that happened that happened in private. What's your oh, hi? I percent you mean over 80 percent 80 percent
[08:12:00] I'm fifth. I don't know what to even add as feedback
[08:12:05] like I
[08:12:07] It's like hard day
[08:12:10] It's hard to continue his his
[08:12:13] like the things that he's weaving into the conversation are so
[08:12:20] strange
[08:12:22] and
[08:12:24] irrelevant. Wait, what the fuck? Left wing lunacy? What the fuck is this? White House
[08:12:38] website?
[08:12:43] Hassan Piker lamenting that President Trump is alive and remarking that it would be funny
[08:12:47] if he died. Wait, what the fuck? The offense, the fake news, unhinged. By the way, two S's?
[08:12:53] What the fuck they fucking wrote my name wrong. I'm on the White House website. What the fuck?
[08:13:02] What? The offense, the fake news and on his sick Democrats have spent years peddling reckless
[08:13:07] inflammatory and escalating rhetoric about President Trump's administration and tens
[08:13:10] of millions of Americans marrying them as fascist Nazis and threats. The truth to toxic
[08:13:14] environments repeatedly incited their supporters of violence. Most recently the White House
[08:13:17] Correspondents dinner, when another radical left lunatic attempted to assassinate President
[08:13:21] Trump in the third such a tag in under two years. Examples of degenerate fake news figurehead
[08:13:26] spewing such disgusting rhetoric include Hasan Piker lamenting that President Trump is alive
[08:13:32] and remarking that it would be pretty funny if he died.
[08:13:37] What? When did I even say that? Wait, is David Pakman and them on here too? Whoa, David Pakman
[08:13:47] is all here. Emma. Oh, Emma Nicholson. President Trump of the Olaf situation room, commanding
[08:13:56] one of the most daring health crisis, fueled by unhinged fringe accounts. Probably many
[08:14:07] times. Let's be real, dude. Shut the fuck up. I don't remember. Why didn't they put the
[08:14:27] leg? I want to see the video. I'm guessing it's clip. Like you saying something along
[08:14:34] would be pretty funny. Oh, yeah, it'd be pretty funny if he died to one of his own supporters
[08:14:39] who turned on him, etc. Something like that. I would never say that. Shut the fuck up,
[08:14:43] Megafonics. Oh, hey, oh, wait, hold on, the sources are here. Hold on.
[08:14:57] media, newsbusters. Evil never dies. Twitter star Sompiker laments Trump is still alive
[08:15:03] and still kicking. Twitter star Sompiker was a bit bummed that President Donald Trump is
[08:15:09] still alive on Saturday after many speculating on X and Blue sky about the common commander
[08:15:12] chief's health because of a light Labor Day weekend schedule.
[08:15:16] Wait, this is the story of the fucking week. The notion that so many people have deep held
[08:15:21] resentment for the fucking president that they're actively fantasizing about his untimely
[08:15:24] demands at the young age of 79, Piker said, his comment came a few hours after photos
[08:15:30] and video emerged of Trump heading out to play some golf with his granddaughter, Kai
[08:15:34] Trump.
[08:15:35] Um, Piker during his lifetime said everybody was stoked that Trump was potentially dead.
[08:15:40] The president he added is an evil obese, demented 80 year old man before saying he believes
[08:15:46] it backfires whenever Trump's haters pray for his downfall.
[08:15:50] I feel like it has the opposite effect.
[08:15:51] said, where you just hit the thoughts and prayers. And then those thoughts and prayers
[08:15:55] end up bouncing off of him. You know, it just makes him stronger. I don't know what it is.
[08:16:01] On Saturday, Piker added, it would be pretty funny if Trump died before former president Joe
[08:16:05] Biden. Oh, oh, I did say it. Like I said, it'd be pretty funny if Trump died before former president
[08:16:11] Joe Biden, whom Piker said was oldest fuck and had a deteriorating brain.
[08:16:16] Yo, I cracked myself up dude. It's way funnier when it's written down
[08:16:28] I got clipped chip by the White House. That's crazy
[08:16:35] Huh
[08:16:37] Yeah, I thought I did I thought legalized comedy I thought legalized comedy what the fuck
[08:16:46] Do you ever look back at some of the things you said and choke on yourself to sleep?
[08:16:55] I mean, this is pretty funny.
[08:16:56] This is a good take.
[08:16:58] I cooked.
[08:17:07] It's bad that it's written down though.
[08:17:09] Whatever.
[08:17:11] Okay.
[08:17:12] Okay, um
[08:17:14] Anyway, that'll be all for today. I will get back to the Patrick, but David conversation is there's an hour and 20 more minutes on this thing
[08:17:21] I can't finish it right now because i'm tired. It's been eight hours and
[08:17:24] 16 minutes. We got some big dumps today
[08:17:27] Uh tomorrow is yet another day
[08:17:29] We'll be live. We'll be alive
[08:17:32] We'll chat. You be tea it. We'll grok it. We'll do the damn thing
[08:17:36] We are all numbers guys. I know you like number
[08:17:38] I'm a numbers guy. I know you like number
[08:17:47] He cooked he cooked it my goat my fucking goat
[08:17:53] More big dumps, please more more stealing of votes. We are going to we're gonna
[08:18:00] Intercept and steal democracy from the Republicans in the Comma for Nia
[08:18:04] Yeah, that's right. Peace everybody. See you tomorrow. Love you, bye.
[08:18:34] Cause there is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming
[08:18:45] Cause there is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming
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[08:19:03] Sun in as many chaperones, Giving greening's grace
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[08:19:27] The Charlie Kirk assassination, the fear and online show
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