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06-07-2026 · 7h 12m

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[00:09:00] You deserve 9-11, dude.
[00:09:10] The Assembly of Congress said he was in response to Son Piper says Americans deserve 9-11.
[00:09:20] Here you go.
[00:09:21] Here you have it.
[00:09:22] My friends, we have toppled a political dynasty.
[00:09:25] Now to the Michigan Senate race, where El Sayed is campaigning in Michigan, appearing on stage at two Michigan campaign rallies.
[00:09:33] He's coactively campaigning alongside Piper, the man who said Hezbollah's flag is his favorite because it's dope.
[00:09:38] Why would you align yourself for a raging anti-Semite type who has defended Hamas terrorists?
[00:09:44] Calling them the lesser of two is Israel's compared to the government's evil's...
[00:09:47] Lesser of two?
[00:09:48] That's what I find a bridge too far.
[00:09:51] When I went up to my good friend, Chad, and said,
[00:09:54] hey, can you walk me through some more controversial statements
[00:09:58] of a son, Piker, even Chad GPT went out of its way
[00:10:01] to soften the edges of the son and give me context.
[00:10:05] Thanks, but no thanks.
[00:10:07] Chad GPT.
[00:10:08] The son, Piker, is campaign poison.
[00:10:10] Placing yourself on the wrong side of a 9-10 issue
[00:10:13] is only going to make you look bad.
[00:10:15] It's going to be good for me.
[00:10:16] It's going to be good for the candidates that I work with.
[00:10:18] Turns out it was true.
[00:10:19] Abdul al-sayed at 27%
[00:10:23] Oliver Larger
[00:10:24] May I like heroes, everybody?
[00:10:25] Nice to meet you, it's not?
[00:10:26] Welcome to the broadcast.
[00:10:27] Thank you for having me.
[00:10:28] Oh my gosh.
[00:10:29] What's going on, man?
[00:10:31] What's up, dude?
[00:10:32] See ya.
[00:10:33] I'm not leaving.
[00:10:34] I'm leaving.
[00:10:35] He's trying to get that out of me.
[00:10:36] Wow!
[00:10:37] What's going on, buddy?
[00:10:38] What's going on, man?
[00:10:39] What's going on, buddy?
[00:10:40] I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon, premium, no matter where you are
[00:10:49] world. I'm a sump. I can just toss in our broadcast coming to you live from
[00:10:53] so not so sunny, partially sunny California. Los Angeles folks were live.
[00:10:57] It alive. And I hope all the boys, girls and MBS are having a fantastic one
[00:10:59] because today's a beautiful day. Today is a wonderful day. Today is Sunday.
[00:11:03] That's right. It's Sunday. Fun day, ladies and gentlemen. It's Sunday.
[00:11:10] And there is going to be some fun to be had today.
[00:11:15] You already know what it is. It's pride month.
[00:11:19] It's pride month. It's pride year. It's pride day.
[00:11:26] Yo, Marvel rivals, commentators mentioned you during Ignite. Wait, really?
[00:11:32] But yeah, this is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news
[00:11:36] about what's going on in the world of Azan.
[00:11:38] I was on a bike room in the time period where I pressed the stop
[00:11:41] from a button, press the start.
[00:11:42] She would button. So help me God.
[00:11:43] That's what I'm going to do is Sunday, June 7th, 2020.
[00:11:46] Sunday, June 7th, 2026, 6, 7. It's day 6, 7. Oh, God, I hate this. Anyway, but we're live.
[00:11:57] We're live coming to you from stolen Tongva land. You already, you already know there's
[00:12:04] a player named Kaya. Oh, nice. Is this your gay suit? Yeah, this is my Miami vice. This
[00:12:10] This is when I gave it up, yes, I did.
[00:12:19] I kind of kick started drama around the value attainment shoes, honestly, which is crazy
[00:12:26] because I work where Derek guy, he never critiques my fits, but honestly, it's probably good
[00:12:32] that he doesn't critique my fits because he'd be like your fits or ass.
[00:12:39] You need to do the thing where you sit the back of your coat, so does it crinkle in
[00:12:41] the back?
[00:12:42] It doesn't matter.
[00:12:43] I don't really care.
[00:12:44] Bro, you look Cuban as fuck.
[00:12:45] Good.
[00:12:46] Tony Montana.
[00:12:47] Anyway, folks, we're live, we're live.
[00:12:53] And I hope everyone's having a great one.
[00:12:55] This is the part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news about what's
[00:12:59] going on in the world of a San Jose and Ambeda Piker in between the time period where I press
[00:13:03] the star shroom button and press the stop shroom button.
[00:13:05] Did you get a haircut?
[00:13:06] Yes, I did.
[00:13:07] Yes, of course. Anyway, your suitcases look mostly good, but there's a lot of improvement potential respect.
[00:13:19] Thank you.
[00:13:24] As a Cuban, yep, you do look like my people right now. Good.
[00:13:32] Good.
[00:13:33] good. Thank you for the blast offs. All right, we'll put it out there. We'll put it out
[00:13:43] there. We're live. We're alive, baby. Let's go. All right. Anyway, LBC debate on my UK
[00:13:53] K-Van plus Israel, Sunday Funday, Drama, Galore, Pride Parade, IRL later, we hope Pride Parade,
[00:14:05] you already know what's up, we hope Pride Parade, IRL, California Dubs continue, Romana
[00:14:10] Box Pratt, Hogwatch, Hogwatch, California Election Conspiracies, Trump Meet the Press, Epstein's
[00:14:24] Fury, finally reaches day 100. Yeah, that's right. Listen to the, listen to the Lewis Goodall debate.
[00:14:40] Today while doing the washing up of work pity you couldn't be here in person. Don't forget absolutely do not do any sort of collab with Grindr
[00:14:47] Okay, I won't why what's is Grindr cancelled? What's up? What's up with Grindr? I
[00:14:53] I don't sure
[00:15:02] They're gay, haha. Oh the union busted after firing half their staff. Okay, that makes sense. All right
[00:15:08] Good enough for me. Someone said, someone said, don't do any collabs with Grinder because
[00:15:20] they're gay. Okay, chatter at the WeHo West Hollywood Pride Parade. At the West Hollywood
[00:15:30] Pride Parade, I will try to make sure that I don't do any gay stuff. Okay. I will try
[00:15:37] to make sure that I stay away from gay shit. Okay, I promise you that. No funny business.
[00:15:55] No, no, no, no, nothing queer. Okay, we're not touching that.
[00:16:00] Okay, no stolen valor. No, no, no. I mean, I suspect that my presence will be
[00:16:07] considered gay-baiting or something, regardless, but in any case, ladies and gentlemen, yeah,
[00:16:18] we're blasting off LBC debate on my UK ban plus Israel. We're obviously going to start
[00:16:23] there. The Lewis Goodall versus the son piker on Israel and anti-Semitism. I suspect that
[00:16:29] this conversation will probably draw a lot of controversy and not controversy necessarily
[00:16:37] for me, but because I think my performance was pretty good. Well, in the moments that
[00:16:45] you can hear me, I didn't realize that they were literally lowering my volume automatically.
[00:16:54] All the comments are on your software, yeah.
[00:17:03] I just watched it though.
[00:17:05] Let's start elsewhere.
[00:17:07] That's crazy.
[00:17:09] That's, hey guys, hey guys, they, they, they, this guy watched it already, so I guess we're
[00:17:21] not doing the LBC debate, never mind. I mean, I was very excited about this because like,
[00:17:27] remember, this conversation wasn't supposed to be a debate, I don't think. Okay, they
[00:17:33] cut some of your answers. Oh, they did. It was very long. We went on for much longer.
[00:17:38] I hope they didn't cut my answers. That's kind of sad. But we'll see. And I didn't
[00:17:45] filming on my end, but yeah. Can we take a sec to admire this fit of yours? Sure. Okay.
[00:18:05] Yeah, Trump Trump had a meet the press moment and oopsie. And he literally walked out of his
[00:18:14] meet the press. How long was it if the video was 53 minutes? I don't know.
[00:18:21] They asked the question-cutter answer then called you anti-Semitic at the 20 minute mark.
[00:18:26] Hmm. That's not good. Anyway, I haven't seen it yet. I have not seen it yet, so I don't know.
[00:18:33] But in any case, folks, folks, folks.
[00:18:40] Happy pride
[00:18:46] You look like a drug dealer in Miami from the 80s good
[00:18:49] Can you talk about God of War? Why what what do you want? What what what?
[00:18:55] What I just got started chatter. Can you talk about God of War massage me bullshit?
[00:18:59] Please can you please talk about God of War, please? Can you talk about God of War? Can you talk about God of War? No?
[00:19:10] No, okay, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be good. Who gives a fuck about what some sweaty-ass dumbass gamers are saying about another game
[00:19:19] That has a female protagonist. That's just how it is anytime. There's a female protagonist and they can't like immediately
[00:19:27] masturbate to her they lose their fucking shit
[00:19:32] How this should be expected right
[00:19:37] This should be expected
[00:19:40] If you don't expect it, you should. That's just how it is, unfortunately. It's the polo under
[00:19:47] the tan suit that makes it look like a cocaine smuggler. Good. That's the point.
[00:19:54] They're saying the new God of War protagonist came out with a statement about dating Platinum.
[00:19:57] Okay, come on, man. You started some shit. What is this? How many cane lashes for Pegaslop?
[00:20:05] Who we man determines that Hassan was clearly joking about getting more Pegasus in any legal
[00:20:10] troubles in Singapore for his 300 plus video catalog of a song bad. Yeah, you know, what's
[00:20:15] really interesting about this is that, you know, I'm obviously being insincere, but, but
[00:20:21] he's taken it seriously, which is good, but also simultaneously every single person that is a part
[00:20:28] of that like Pegasus Lop coalition, every single person that's like, please check log.
[00:20:33] Okay, I'm already annoyed. Please fuck me. I'm transgender. Just your type.
[00:20:39] It's too early. It's too early for this. I've been live for 20 minutes. I've been live for 20
[00:20:59] minutes what the fuck is happening man what is happening what the hell what the
[00:21:05] fucking can everybody fucking dial it back like 15 notches behave I just got
[00:21:21] started yes it is crime to be horned it is crime it is crime to be horny
[00:21:28] Anyway, what I find very funny is that every single slop tuber that has been like Ethan
[00:21:35] Kwan is destroying deadems and Morgan and Casey Tron, and they're going to go under
[00:21:42] the jail.
[00:21:43] They're going to prison forever.
[00:21:44] Like they love that kind of fucking frivolous litigation.
[00:21:49] All of a sudden now, now when I imply that I might do something similar, instantly they
[00:21:57] They turn around and they're like, oh, you're fucking pussy.
[00:21:58] You're fucking pussy ass bitch.
[00:22:00] You can't even deal with a little bit of criticism.
[00:22:02] You can't take any accountability.
[00:22:04] Dog, thank you.
[00:22:07] I already knew that you were a goddamn hypocrite.
[00:22:10] But now, I hope other people also recognize it as well.
[00:22:14] Pegasus?
[00:22:15] Striking the bare buttocks of the offender
[00:22:18] under strict medical supervision.
[00:22:20] You'll be straight naked.
[00:22:22] You'll be tied to a wreck.
[00:22:24] and that is when your the
[00:22:26] caning will be administered
[00:22:29] you should report that
[00:22:30] they're coming for you pegasus they're coming for you pegas law
[00:22:34] watch out
[00:22:35] they're coming for that as pegas law
[00:22:38] that person to the authorities in singapore they have extremely strict laws against cyber
[00:22:42] harassment spreading this info on the internet
[00:22:45] wait
[00:22:47] what do you mean
[00:22:49] so dude okay
[00:22:51] this is what this is my first time
[00:22:53] seeing the clip. I've heard some people say it's an obvious joke,
[00:22:57] and some people say it's more serious. This is an obvious joke.
[00:23:01] There's no room for misinterpretation. He reads a chat message
[00:23:05] and hits a Larry Ellison in the IQ.
[00:23:09] What do you mean? Hold on.
[00:23:13] Intentionally causing harassment, alarm, or distress. Singapore statutes online.
[00:23:18] An individual or entity must not, with intent,
[00:23:21] cause harassment, alarm or distress to another person,
[00:23:23] called in this section the target person by any means,
[00:23:27] use any threatening abusive or insulting words or behavior,
[00:23:31] make any threatening abusive or insulting communication, or
[00:23:34] publish any identity information of the target person
[00:23:37] or a related person of the target person. They also find state violence bad when
[00:23:41] it's one of their own people.
[00:23:47] Um, they also find state violence bad when it's one of their own people. Well, it's not once Pegasus Cain. What happened?
[00:23:53] Yeah, it's their law man. What happened to simply comply is just a state law. Oh
[00:23:57] My god, they're gonna cane his ass. Oh my god. Oh my god. They're gonna cane his ass. Oh my god
[00:24:02] You're about to get Cain big dog. Oh
[00:24:05] My god, because Singapore does not fuck around. This is so stupid. It's almost almost like seriously. Oh
[00:24:11] Oh, Singapore has the highest rate of state-sponsored executions on the planet.
[00:24:18] Oh, Pagasus! Oh, Pagasus!
[00:24:21] Singapore death penalty rate.
[00:24:26] This is an awesome segment, because he is just talking around basically saying he's going to get Pagasus the death penalty for talking shit about online.
[00:24:37] a large percentage of the public.
[00:24:40] I'm anti-death penalty, all right? I'm anti-death penalty. I'm anti-capital punishment.
[00:24:46] But you know, we gotta, we gotta respect the local laws, I guess, of other countries, you know,
[00:24:50] I'm sorry.
[00:24:50] They are supportive of the use of the death penalty with more than 80% of Singaporeans
[00:24:57] believing in it. Wait, don't get the guy killed. I don't think there's a death penalty for this,
[00:25:01] and also that I would not be in favor of. Are you
[00:25:07] It's so funny that they're like, Hassan wants more patients to be assassinated by the Singaporean
[00:25:14] government. Hey, listen, it's just the law is the law, man. The law is the law. Follow
[00:25:20] the law. Follow the letter of the law. You feel me? Follow the letter of the law. Yeah.
[00:25:32] where we're at. That is, that's what's going on, dude. Um, I'm a numbers guy. Remember
[00:25:47] when Aspen threatened to sue someone on Twitter when they tweeted that he dated a minor in
[00:25:49] his 30s and all those slot tuber supported him and that person not only deleted the tweets,
[00:25:53] but their account too, afraid of being, uh, getting sued. But apparently Pegasus is regularly
[00:25:58] claiming you are a word of minor in Germany is okay. And you should not do anything about
[00:26:02] is crazy how hypocritical these people are by saying it's only criticism. Yeah, I mean,
[00:26:06] they've gone away. They've gone away scoff free for far too long. Yeah, these guys,
[00:26:13] dude, it's not even just that. He also claims that I provide material support to terror groups.
[00:26:20] Okay. That's literally another crime. Like both of those things are direct defamation,
[00:26:28] defamatory claims. It's not a matter of opinion. You're accusing me of a crime. You're saying I've
[00:26:35] committed two heinous crimes. And I don't know. Maybe we look through all of his videos to see
[00:26:48] how many times he's actually accused me of committing a crime. Not even awesome like opinion shit.
[00:26:58] As a objective falsehood
[00:27:03] Objective falsehood wait he released a video about it three hours ago Hasan just ended my career
[00:27:14] Pegas finally live from narrative protagonists in his legendary series Jank's nephew absolutely shamed me wearing suits by shoe this guy's a southbar character
[00:27:22] Stop calling me D. D. Piker. By the way, Rape Tone lost his case, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, he
[00:27:28] actually literally wet the court. You're just making this up. Like, I mean, you can call me
[00:27:35] whatever you want. It just sounds like a fucking insane person when you do this.
[00:27:42] Coming for that. Coming for you. Well, not me, but the state, the state of Singapore, baby.
[00:27:49] Living on borrowed time over there.
[00:27:54] You look weird with short hair. It took me so much time getting used to your old hair.
[00:27:57] Now I'd have to suffer again to get used to this new hairstyle.
[00:27:59] Think about us before going to the barber please.
[00:28:02] Okay, I apologize.
[00:28:05] You have more pegasus, more like more caning, okay?
[00:28:19] We skip personal news for slop tubers. How do I get a refund here? Um, you don't because
[00:28:32] I'm a chud ass loser and there is no personal news except for the fact that I watched pal
[00:28:36] slime 36 last night and it is an unbelievably harrowing watch, but it's also a very important
[00:28:42] one and I highly recommend it, especially because many people don't know. Many people
[00:28:46] are completely oblivious to what has happened pre-October 7. But even those who are at least
[00:28:53] a little bit more knowledgeable about the severity and the crimes of Israel's apartheid
[00:28:58] are oftentimes not more knowledgeable past the point of 1947 when the Nakba started.
[00:29:05] Palestine 36 actually goes back to the British occupation, something that I've obviously covered
[00:29:10] here extensively, especially in the early days. But it's a good refresher for those who are at
[00:29:16] at least a little bit knowledgeable and fantastic for those people who are
[00:29:21] completely oblivious. It's the post Balfour Declaration and the deliberate
[00:29:28] settlement of Jews from the United Kingdom, from Great Britain to the area
[00:29:40] known as occupied British occupied Palestine and the resistance front growing at its beginning
[00:29:49] and like what the Palestinians were trying to do and what the settlers were doing and
[00:29:59] what the British occupation did at the behest of the settlement project like slowly but
[00:30:05] surely building out, you know, the nation now known as Israel.
[00:30:19] So yeah, fantastic movie makes you really understand, makes you
[00:30:31] really understand why there is a resistance to begin with to Israel and how much it, you
[00:30:39] know, how it far predates October 7 and even the knock-up.
[00:30:44] That looks good.
[00:30:45] All guys, since you're late, could she's posting on Twitter completely, take out your
[00:30:48] response.
[00:30:49] It's okay because it's one of those things where no matter how you frame it, no matter
[00:30:54] how you try to positively frame it by removing my reaction or removing my response, it's
[00:30:59] gonna cook his ass. I'll be honest with you, bro, that debate was just not good. Wait,
[00:31:09] what do you mean? I thought it was pretty good. Most people are just gonna, and most
[00:31:18] people are gonna, most people are gonna cook them. It was terrible. No, I think it was
[00:31:24] pretty good. So, the reason why I say that is because, well, one, obviously, you know,
[00:31:33] I'm on the moral side, the thumbnail. Oh yeah, this was, I did not film it on my end, but
[00:31:48] But I doubt that they did like significant cuts to it.
[00:31:54] So here's how it started and I'll begin with this.
[00:32:00] Okay?
[00:32:01] First, first off, here's what happened.
[00:32:04] Initially, the conversation was supposed to be, the conversation was supposed to be about
[00:32:15] my ban and how ridiculous it is. And like Louis Goodall obviously doesn't agree with Shabana Mahmood,
[00:32:20] right? Or at least we both thought so. But obviously he had some choice quotes that he wanted to bring
[00:32:27] up. And I was of course, willing to entertain it. But slowly but surely, slowly, but surely the
[00:32:35] conversation shifted around from, you know, I think the Shabana Mahmood home secretary, home
[00:32:43] office, a ban is ridiculous to like, maybe I kind of agree with this ban. And I even
[00:32:48] called it out. I don't know if it's actually, if it made the final cup, but I was like,
[00:32:53] Lewis, it kind of feels like you agree with the ban.
[00:32:57] But yeah, it, it, it wasn't supposed to, I don't think it was supposed to be contentious,
[00:33:03] but it turned contentious because I think Lewis wanted to defend, you know, the feeling
[00:33:09] of people who are supportive to the state of Israel. So, you know, let's, we'll get started.
[00:33:15] I did not realize that until I saw the clips, I did not realize that they were like lowering my
[00:33:20] audio whenever he was talking over me. But let's take a look. LA, for reasons we can get into.
[00:33:33] Well, Hasan Piker, thank you so much for joining us. We had booked this and hoped that it would
[00:33:38] be in person. I think the in-person conversation would have been really good though. Instead
[00:33:42] you're joining us I think from LA for reasons we can get into. We will get into it in full but it
[00:33:49] must have been a little bit of a curious week for you in terms of your relationship with the UK.
[00:33:53] Yeah I mean I still got much love for the UK and I feel bad for all of my friends out there
[00:34:00] fighting the good fight but yeah I was definitely not expecting the labour government to be
[00:34:07] the government that bars my entry into the country, especially considering that I've
[00:34:12] been to the UK on numerous occasions, both under Gears-Tarmor's rule, but certainly under
[00:34:17] Tory leadership for the past decade or so, unimpeded. And I've delivered numerous speeches
[00:34:25] inside of the United Kingdom until this very last in Persian, I guess.
[00:34:33] But it's the case isn't it that you're still planning to or the Oxford Union, which is one of the events that you were
[00:34:39] Coming to address or coming to undertake that's still gonna go ahead
[00:34:42] Oxford Union actually defended both myself and and Cenk Uyghur my uncle and
[00:34:49] Wanted to continue putting on the event as an act of defiance. I guess in
[00:34:56] Violation of the spirit of this travel ban. So your understanding is
[00:35:03] That you are basically prohibited from coming to the UK for the foreseeable future. Have you actually had any communication from the home office?
[00:35:10] No, the only communication I've gotten from the home office is the revocation of my ETA
[00:35:16] And they told me that it's not something that I can
[00:35:20] Oppose and that if I would like to travel to the UK, I have to get a different visa
[00:35:26] But I have to apply for like an actual visa
[00:35:28] given how close this was to the actual travel date,
[00:35:33] the suggestion was pretty clear.
[00:35:35] They just did not want me to attend the events
[00:35:38] that I was supposed to attend inside of the United Kingdom,
[00:35:42] especially considering from what I understand
[00:35:45] that the visa process for all these other visas,
[00:35:48] which is totally unique for an American citizen, by the way,
[00:35:50] because our countries are supposed to have
[00:35:52] a special relationship, which implies that
[00:35:56] As an American citizen, visa-free travel was the norm
[00:36:00] into the UK for the longest time,
[00:36:01] and the visa on arrival is the way that things go nowadays.
[00:36:07] I had taken the precaution to get the ETA ahead of time
[00:36:11] just to make sure that there were no issues.
[00:36:13] And the fact that they revoked it so close to travel
[00:36:16] implies that they just wanted to not allow me in.
[00:36:20] And also, they told me I can still apply
[00:36:23] for a different type of visa, but no guarantees there.
[00:36:26] Well, we'll return to that,
[00:36:27] because I want to talk a bit more broadly about politics,
[00:36:28] but about American politics and UK politics as well,
[00:36:31] because you've got a lot of insight,
[00:36:32] a lot of interesting things to say.
[00:36:34] I mean, I suppose just on it though,
[00:36:35] actually, funnily enough,
[00:36:38] even though your prohibition into the UK
[00:36:40] has received a lot of attention here,
[00:36:42] in terms of kind of the question of border.
[00:36:44] If you're gonna say choose to move over,
[00:36:46] is we're gonna own that man and not back down over,
[00:36:48] Precise the hell out of it.
[00:36:53] Yeah, Nephew, I don't know about this one, but it's not a good look.
[00:36:58] Do you have a, are your mental faculties in order?
[00:37:03] Or do you have like, did you stroke out?
[00:37:06] Like halfway through the conversation.
[00:37:10] You do realize this, this is a 50 minute back and forth where I'm doing exactly that.
[00:37:34] That's literally what I'm doing.
[00:37:38] And no, this is not conservative, he's a liberal.
[00:37:40] and of people getting into one country or another. In the UK at the moment, a lot of the discourse,
[00:37:45] I think in a lot of European politics as well, is the idea of actually with the World Cup coming up
[00:37:50] that lots and lots of Brits or Europeans, particularly those who might have said critical things about the
[00:37:56] Trump administration, might not be allowed into the US. Now as a journalist who regularly goes into
[00:38:00] the US and has had a few things to say in my time about the Trump administration, I have to say I've
[00:38:04] never encountered this myself, but this is a sort of peculiar time, isn't it, when we've got European
[00:38:09] countries and American countries, you know, two very close sets of allies sort of across
[00:38:14] two continents talking about whether or not we're going to let our citizens mutually
[00:38:18] in to each other's territories.
[00:38:20] Yeah, it's absolute bedlam.
[00:38:22] There is no more coalition or rather the coalition of forces that are taking shape right now
[00:38:28] are some of the most dangerous and most odious types of politics that I've ever experienced
[00:38:33] in my lifetime.
[00:38:35] You have the MAGA movement, which by my estimation is almost turning into this behemoth of an
[00:38:40] international fascist movement really, that has close associations with both reform in
[00:38:47] your country and also restore Britain as well.
[00:38:52] And there's this weird allegiance where we're becoming more toxic against one another.
[00:39:00] And the age of international rule-based order is seemingly being cast aside.
[00:39:07] I find it to be very dangerous.
[00:39:09] I find it to be very worrisome.
[00:39:10] I don't think it's just about being able to enter the United States to go watch your
[00:39:16] favorite football team, defeat the Americans or whatever.
[00:39:22] There are far greater consequences, I think, later down the line.
[00:39:26] But it has been interesting to see the universal condemnation of this act from places that
[00:39:33] I never thought would actually defend me, you know, pro-Israel outlets such as the Free
[00:39:38] Press or even the Economist and the Washington Post editorial board have all collectively
[00:39:44] panned the British government's decisions.
[00:39:47] But then there's also a lot of right-wingers who actually celebrated it and I find that
[00:39:51] very odd as well because they're probably coming to the United States of America to
[00:39:55] watch their national teams play and what if their travel is impeded in the same process.
[00:40:01] It's interesting just to take you back to that phrase you just used. You think that
[00:40:06] there is an international fascistic organization that's forming and you would...
[00:40:12] He said, I looked awkward during this but then also, dude, your autism is not my f***ing fault,
[00:40:20] Okay, you feel uncomfortable watching it and you're like, oh, dude, it's just not good. It's not a good look. Meanwhile
[00:40:27] Listen to the fucking words that are coming out of my goddamn mouth
[00:40:30] And the points that i'm making the points that i'm addressing in a contentious environment
[00:40:34] Um, I think, you know, all things considered is a very good
[00:40:39] It was a very good, uh conversation
[00:40:42] But I also find it very funny that you
[00:40:45] You personally were like damn man chat really derails quite a bit
[00:40:48] it. And now you're fucking doing the same goddamn thing.
[00:40:52] It lied the MAGA movement and reform and restore. And restore is an interesting one
[00:40:58] because of course it's I think a lot of listeners and viewers to this show might be surprised
[00:41:03] that restore is even known in the United States. Surprise it's even known across the UK. But
[00:41:09] I was in CPAC in Dallas not long ago and actually I was taken aback actually stunned
[00:41:14] by the number of people who knew who restored war, who knew who Rupert Lowe, the MP for
[00:41:19] Great Yarmouth who won paper, would be quite an obscure figure in the United States. But
[00:41:23] actually no, he's very well known.
[00:41:25] Yeah, and a part of the reason is because I think we live in the Asia, the Internet,
[00:41:30] and like I said, the inter, there is an international component amongst far right elements in European
[00:41:38] society certainly, or even South Korean society as a matter of fact. I mean, Charlie Kirk,
[00:41:43] before he was assassinated had traveled to Japan and South Korea and through these massive
[00:41:49] events with the South Korean far right and they were all wearing MAGA hats.
[00:41:54] I find that both fascinating and also terrifying at the same time that there is this amalgamation
[00:42:01] of right wing forces that are not necessarily adjusted to their own local considerations
[00:42:06] and their own local problems, but instead they get their notes from MAGA and they wear
[00:42:12] mega-merge, which I find very strange. I feel like it's not even a principled
[00:42:16] version of nationalism that you would expect from these old-school fascists.
[00:42:20] It's very interesting to observe. What do you make of as someone who is probably
[00:42:25] Lewis? It's a lot of question and points that are usually deployed to make lefties
[00:42:27] look crazy in the media and you answer them all very calmly and thoughtfully.
[00:42:30] It left him looking unserious, which is the opposite of this particular
[00:42:33] journalist, Holstic. Yeah, no. I know what kind of
[00:42:39] the bat this is. Lewis himself is supposedly somewhat of a progressive figure, or at least
[00:42:46] seemingly a progressive figure. And the conversation wasn't even supposed to, I don't think, be
[00:42:51] a debat initially. But then it turns into one, it turns into a contentious one because
[00:43:00] he's peppering in some choice quotes to be like, well, you shouldn't be saying that,
[00:43:05] right? You shouldn't be saying that, right? And obviously, I'm not going to back down
[00:43:08] from that. Obviously, I'm not going to back down from some of the principled stances that I've taken,
[00:43:14] because I'm not going to sit there and create some kind of moral parody between Israel and
[00:43:21] Palestinians, including the Palestinian resistance, because there is none. Let's be real. And he
[00:43:27] doesn't believe there is one either, ironically enough. He believes that Israel's reaction to
[00:43:32] October 7 is far more valid than the 75 years of apartheid occupation and denial of sovereign
[00:43:40] to the Palestinians creates any environment where something like October 7 could happen.
[00:43:45] And that's, again, the main point of contention here. It's like you can't have one and not the
[00:43:51] other. If we're going to be consistent about like targeting civilians, then we should be
[00:43:56] consistent about targeting civilians. I don't believe in targeting civilians,
[00:44:01] having said that, if we're going to talk about who is targeting more civilians, I mean, there's no
[00:44:06] conversation there. That's where the Hamas is a thousand times better than Israel.
[00:44:13] Point comes from, I saw certain people celebrating how this exposes on the anti-Semitism. Yeah,
[00:44:17] you just don't, reality of the matter is you don't see Palestinians as human beings. You see
[00:44:22] Jewish people as human beings. You see Israelis as human beings, but not Palestinians in general.
[00:44:27] Been thinking about British politics a little bit more than you might have otherwise been.
[00:44:30] When you see where we are in British politics, you see Nigel Farage, you talk about Rupert
[00:44:32] Lerner, and Restore. What do you make of where British politics is at the moment,
[00:44:36] and particularly in relation to US politics? Do you see US politics as...
[00:44:38] Other devastation.
[00:44:39] Devastation. Why do you think devastation?
[00:44:41] Other devastation. One of the early warnings that, I mean, it's not a secret that I was a big fan
[00:44:46] and big supporter of Jeremy Corbyn and still am now a friend to Jeremy Corbyn as well,
[00:44:52] honored to know him.
[00:44:53] And he's offended you this week?
[00:44:54] Yeah, he has. And so has Zach Polanski. I've collaborated with Zach as well at times.
[00:44:58] So what I will say is, since the Corbyn ouster, it was very clear that labor was headed down
[00:45:05] a very dangerous path, going back to Blairite versions of the party, if not far worse, right-wing
[00:45:11] elements in the party, overtaking the entirety of labor.
[00:45:15] And one of the warnings that I delivered on the night of the election after Cure-Stommer
[00:45:19] 1, with less votes than Jeremy Corbyn had, ironically enough, was that if the labor government
[00:45:25] continues down the line of austerity and refuses to address some of the economic hardships
[00:45:30] that people are experiencing, that has caused a lot of the former labor strongholds to
[00:45:36] turn into areas captive by reform and pursetories and now even reform.
[00:45:42] I was worried that the far-right elements were going to overtake British politics, and
[00:45:46] they certainly did.
[00:45:48] As a matter of fact, the Green Party's surge has only been the last saving grace of British
[00:45:53] politics to a certain degree, considering that I think in the absence of this Green
[00:45:57] Party resurgence, labor would be eviscerated. And then you would have an eclectic group
[00:46:02] of like this independent MPs and maybe your party as well to a certain degree, try to
[00:46:08] put a strong opposition against this behemoth that the reform party has become.
[00:46:13] Are you talking to Polanski? Aren't you advising Polanski?
[00:46:15] I would say I'm advising him, but I chat with him every now and then.
[00:46:19] He's particularly in the last couple of weeks. I mean, he's receiving, as you might imagine,
[00:46:22] ferocious media retention. And a lot of the newspapers are coming for him in a very big
[00:46:27] way and they found some things that are embarrassing to him and so on, some of which he's acknowledged.
[00:46:32] What would you say to him as someone who has been very, very successful in corralling the
[00:46:37] power of digital media on the left? What would you say to him about how to deal with the
[00:46:42] traditional media?
[00:46:43] Be bold, be brave, don't be afraid to be contentious at times, stay on message always. I think
[00:46:48] One of the things that Zoran Mamdani, the mayor of New York City, did so expertly in
[00:46:53] spite of the barrage of attacks and heinous smears that he was receiving, not dissimilar
[00:46:58] to what Zach Polanski is currently going through, was he would always play this intellectual
[00:47:01] judo where he would consistently reframe the conversation back to, and dare I say expertly,
[00:47:07] back to a key policy of his platform.
[00:47:10] I think this was a major issue with Jeremy Corbyn.
[00:47:13] anti-Semitism smears were unfounded and totally ridiculous. However, it wasn't necessarily
[00:47:19] the idea that the broader British public found Jeremy Corbyn's politics to be odious and
[00:47:25] that he was a sincere anti-Semite. There was a little bit of hysteria there for sure, but
[00:47:29] it was the fact that he constantly found himself addressing these accusations because we have
[00:47:33] a finite amount of time on every broadcast, especially when a politician is running for
[00:47:38] office and if you utilize that time consistently on the defense, consistently having to answer
[00:47:45] accusations that people have made about you without actually addressing what your platform
[00:47:48] is or even why people might be very upset at you because oftentimes it's not the smear
[00:47:52] itself that is valid, then people are only going to remember you as an unserious person
[00:47:57] that is constantly in controversy.
[00:48:00] Is that completely fair?
[00:48:01] Has something like that?
[00:48:02] I mean, remember that the Equality and Human Rights Commission in this country conducted
[00:48:05] investigation into anti-Semitism into the Labour Party, and it concluded that Jeremy Corbyn,
[00:48:09] when he had led it, had committed unlawful acts related to anti-Semitism. Key findings included
[00:48:13] Labour was responsible for unlawful harassment, discrimination, there were serious failings
[00:48:16] of leadership, and an adequate process for handling anti-Semitism complaints. Two things
[00:48:20] can be true at once. It can be true to say that people who perhaps had ulterior motives
[00:48:24] decided that they wanted to use some of this to try and undermine Jeremy Corbyn.
[00:48:27] I think the Corbyn smear, the Corbyn is an anti-Semite smear and the big 226 is crazy.
[00:48:33] like, that's when I was like, wait, what? This guy? I don't know if it's, this is like
[00:48:40] sunk costs for a lot of these guys who played into it, I assume, because every, virtually
[00:48:45] every single person in British media did this. Owen Jones did this. He obviously said he
[00:48:51] was wrong to do it, but he certainly did it. Zach Polanski did it, ironically enough.
[00:48:58] And people that are now aligned with Corbin on this issue did play a role in this.
[00:49:04] And some people obviously apologized for it and said that they were swept away with the
[00:49:12] barrage of misinformation and whatnot.
[00:49:16] And as long as they apologize for it and take accountability over it, I'm more open-minded
[00:49:23] to their perspective.
[00:49:25] Having said that, I do believe that there are a lot of people who never took ownership
[00:49:30] over it at all and still double down in 2026.
[00:49:35] It's still near unanimous in major media.
[00:49:36] You will not be able to hear them get them to admit to what they participated.
[00:49:43] That is, I think, very, very strange.
[00:49:45] That is very, very, very, very strange that they still hold on to that idea.
[00:49:55] Yeah, he's saying they had documented processes within the Labour Party when he was under
[00:50:05] his leadership.
[00:50:06] Corbyn, it can also be true to say that Jeremy Corbyn led the Labour Party during a period
[00:50:10] when it did things that it shouldn't and it didn't do other things that it should have
[00:50:12] done with regards to anti-Semitism.
[00:50:14] Well, this ironically also dovetails back into my travel ban as well.
[00:50:18] But I think if what happened to Jeremy Corbyn was taking place right now in 2026 with the
[00:50:24] current understanding of the actions of Israel or the ideology of Zionism or the history
[00:50:30] of the development of the Israeli state, I believe that these attacks would not have
[00:50:35] been anywhere near as successful.
[00:50:37] Because what we consider to be anti-Semitism, which I find to be morally repugnant, let's
[00:50:40] just make that clear, and completely unacceptable, as does Jeremy Corbyn and the conversations
[00:50:45] that I've had with him at least, was oftentimes matched up with criticisms of Israel or even
[00:50:53] a defense or even analysis conducted on why certain militancies exist in opposition to
[00:51:00] Israel.
[00:51:01] Prescribed terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah or prescribed terrorist organizations such
[00:51:04] as Hamas.
[00:51:05] But any kind of mention or any kind of conversation with these prescribed terrorist organizations
[00:51:11] was deemed to be-
[00:51:13] No one would doubt, no one would doubt, that there is tremendous...
[00:51:25] What?
[00:51:27] Oh...
[00:51:29] Do they do this a lot?
[00:51:34] Disappointed in you, you should have defended Corbin as much as that weirdo defended Israel. Wait, what?
[00:51:43] I don't remember what else I said, but oh, no
[00:51:55] I mean, I don't know why they just like cut that. Yes, they do that a lot by the way
[00:52:01] This is one of the few instances where I didn't record on my end because I didn't think it was gonna be I didn't think it was gonna be bad
[00:52:13] damn
[00:52:15] i mean i'm sure they cut it for
[00:52:17] i look like i don't even remember what i said here so
[00:52:20] i'm sure they just cut it for time i suspect
[00:52:23] in this anger and many people say absolutely rightful and righteous anger
[00:52:26] towards the uh actions of the government of israel and the ben menet and yahoo
[00:52:30] would you also accept though that sometimes and perhaps this happens under jeremy corbin
[00:52:33] and perhaps you yourself at times have been guilty of this
[00:52:36] that sometimes that fury which again many people might think is is rightful or righteous
[00:52:40] against Zionism and in particular the type of Zionism that is prosecuted by the Netanyahu
[00:52:45] government has spilt over into anti-Semitism and that it is best to and is right to sometimes
[00:52:50] acknowledge that fact and be honest about that fact.
[00:52:53] Oh, absolutely.
[00:52:54] And I do acknowledge that and I suspect Jeremy Corbyn at times has also acknowledged instances
[00:52:59] where it does go too far.
[00:53:00] Well, he's never ever said, I don't think my knowledge, he's never ever said that he
[00:53:03] has done or said has been anti-Semitic.
[00:53:04] Oh, I don't think he's, I don't think Jeremy Corbyn has been personally anti-Semitic.
[00:53:07] I would we can go through the report if you would like and and I can maybe make a better assessment of some of his actions if
[00:53:12] Do you think that you've ever said anything or done anything which could in a coal light of day be reasonably interpreted as
[00:53:19] Antisemitism absolutely for sure. I mean, I'll give you an example personally
[00:53:23] one of the things that I routinely
[00:53:25] Deploy one of the pejoratives I routinely deploy is in bread and I use that against
[00:53:30] vulgar ethno nationalism vulgar
[00:53:32] fascism of all different sorts because nationalism and fascism in general
[00:53:37] revolves around ethnic purity or religious purity or some kind of racial
[00:53:41] purity, right? I think we agree. White nationalists, Christian fascists, phalanges,
[00:53:46] numerous different sorts, right? And one of the things that they always bring up
[00:53:51] that I also personally identify as like something that could be misconstrued as
[00:53:55] me being anti-Semitic is when I called settlers in the West Bank inbred. I said
[00:54:02] these inbred settlers and that was I think you compare them to the KKK as well as
[00:54:05] though right? Oh no but I don't think that's anti-Saharanism. No, I'm not saying that's anti-Saharanism
[00:54:07] but I think I'm just just giving the full context. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. I've
[00:54:11] compared them to neo-Nazis. I mean, it's my yahoo deed is it's a Marbengevirus
[00:54:14] party. It's literally called the Jewish power party. It's not like they're
[00:54:17] hiding that they have a fascistic. Do you think it might ever be better sometimes
[00:54:21] just to never compare any Jews to Nazis? It might just be wise to know. No, I don't.
[00:54:25] I'm not so precious about that comparison and I've actually had a yeah. So this is
[00:54:29] where this is where it starts really turning, right?
[00:54:38] He actually agrees with you.
[00:54:39] That's the crazy part.
[00:54:40] He just can't admit he does.
[00:54:42] Yeah.
[00:54:43] So then the conversation basically flips from this point on to optics, optics, optics, optics.
[00:54:48] What about the feelings of people who love Israel?
[00:54:51] What about the feelings of people I suspect would find your statements to be offensive?
[00:54:59] And, and obviously, yeah, by the way, the only concession that I make there for chatters
[00:55:06] who don't understand how language works is, could it be interpreted as, could anything
[00:55:11] you've said be interpreted as anti-semitic?
[00:55:14] And yes, of course, of course there can be.
[00:55:18] And I take ownership over that.
[00:55:20] I understand that, right?
[00:55:22] And I use the example that is most commonly deployed to claim anti-semitism that actually
[00:55:28] could be perceived to the uninitiated as anti-Semitism.
[00:55:32] Because that one is about Jewish people in particular, as opposed to, I don't know, a
[00:55:39] defense of the resistance movements, broadly, or criticisms of Israel.
[00:55:48] I think criticisms of Israel being compared, or criticisms of Israel being used in this
[00:55:55] conversation is like a point of anti-Semitism to claim that there's anti-Semitism there
[00:56:00] is is the part that I absolutely oppose.
[00:56:03] Maybe that's easy for you to say, the non-Jewish person.
[00:56:07] For sure.
[00:56:08] But I mean, you can call it lots of things.
[00:56:09] I'm just sort of trying to be as sort of generous as possible.
[00:56:12] You could, there are so many things you could call those setters.
[00:56:15] I'm not defending those setters for a moment.
[00:56:16] I think a lot of them are committing heinous acts.
[00:56:17] I think a lot of the people in the far right, the Netanyahu government are absolutely appalling.
[00:56:21] I would say that completely explicitly, but you know what?
[00:56:23] You could probably say all that and you could probably make a stronger case and not undermine
[00:56:26] yourself by comparing them to Nazis, because Nazis literally try to exterminate who they
[00:56:30] are as Jews.
[00:56:31] Yes, I don't disagree with that.
[00:56:33] The comparison in my opinion is not only graphic, but it's apt.
[00:56:37] Because Nazism is a fascist ideology, it's a dangerous fascist ideology.
[00:56:40] Call them fascists then.
[00:56:41] Call them fascists.
[00:56:42] You only call them Nazis or Neo-Nazis.
[00:56:43] But the reason why I specifically utilized that term, I called them fascists as well.
[00:56:49] Some of the things I'm saying, you might not be able to hear, but yeah, I'm like, yeah,
[00:56:53] I called them fascists as well. Yeah, I mean, they want to do the same thing. They're doing
[00:56:59] industrial mass slaughter. So this was like one of the clips that they presented, one
[00:57:05] of the clips that they posted, right? And my response to that on Twitter was, I quote,
[00:57:11] retweeted it and I said, I think this was an interesting conversation. Kind liberals
[00:57:17] continue to make optics arguments that center the feelings of people with sympathies of
[00:57:20] state that has conducted industrial mass slaughter and maintains an apartheid, the purpose of
[00:57:24] Holocaust scholarship is to never let it happen again. It's to be used as a comparison to stop
[00:57:29] it from happening now. That's why I do not shy away from making the comparison as a warning.
[00:57:35] That's it. So whenever people bring up like the feelings argument, I find it to be very odd. It's
[00:57:44] like, do you believe it's a genocide or not? If you believe it's a genocide, do you believe it's
[00:57:47] an apartheid or not. If you believe it's an apartheid then, you know, at that point you have to,
[00:57:54] at that point, I mean, having a conversation around my language is crazy because what's
[00:57:59] actually offensive is the fact that most of the world is still either directly supporting the
[00:58:04] genocide or turning a blind eye to it. Like, what's far more offensive is the fact that this has
[00:58:13] continued, unimpeded, and there has but not been any accountability and we saw it happen with our
[00:58:18] own two eyes, right? That's, that is offensive, at least to me and I think to many others as well,
[00:58:31] employee to term Nazi, is because, well, two reasons. Number one, the goals of ethnic cleansing
[00:58:39] are identical, and especially considering that a genocide has unfolded at this point,
[00:58:42] a modern-day genocide with different tools. It's not the same exact type of genocide as the Holocaust,
[00:58:47] of course, not the concentration camps, and yet it's an open-air prison that has been bombarded
[00:58:51] with almost 10 atom bombs worth of explosive ordinance that my government, and as a matter
[00:58:58] of fact, your government has aided and abetted in the process of. And from that perspective,
[00:59:03] the reason why I say I'm not so precious about this, while always maintaining the position that
[00:59:07] that anti-Semitism is completely unacceptable. I always say I'm not precious about this because
[00:59:12] at the end of the day, it's a genocide. At the end of the day, it's an apartheid state
[00:59:15] and Zionism as an ideology is a racist ideology and many Jewish thinkers are now also coming
[00:59:20] to terms with that even if they had self-identified as Zionists their entire lives. This is this
[00:59:25] trans-
[00:59:26] So you would compare what's happening in Gaza to the Holocaust?
[00:59:28] It's not to the same extent, no, but I have compared it to the Holocaust, yes. It's no
[00:59:31] different than saying these concentration camps that we have in the United States of
[00:59:35] America are turning into death camps. This is fascism is not a static concept. It's an
[00:59:38] ideology. It's a very dangerous one that I oppose unconditionally across the board.
[00:59:42] But it's not the Holocaust, is it? It's not the Holocaust, of course.
[00:59:44] No, no, of course.
[00:59:45] To compare it to, I think the thing about you is...
[00:59:48] I think that it's like pretty obvious what I'm saying here. It's not, you know, we can't
[00:59:56] wait until it turns into six million Palestinians for us to then turn around and say, oh my
[01:00:02] God, I'm so sad that happened. How could this have happened? We know how it's happening because it's happening in real time.
[01:00:08] It's unfolding in broad daylight. We're seeing it, right?
[01:00:15] Like, what's the threshold? What's the threshold where you'd be comfortable saying, okay, this is a modern-day Holocaust?
[01:00:22] You speak compellingly about many things, but you undermine your case and you open yourself to the accusation
[01:00:28] which might not be unreasonable of anti-Semitism.
[01:00:30] See, he's like starting to agree with Shabbat and Mahmood.
[01:00:40] Yeah, I'm not precious about, I'm not precious about the term,
[01:00:47] by deploying the term a Holocaust, right? I'm not precious about making comparisons between the
[01:00:53] Israeli government and Nazi Germany, because it's an apt comparison. And there is a, there,
[01:01:01] this is, ironically enough, this quite literally is Jewish exceptionalism, okay? That is, like,
[01:01:10] a lot of people get mad at me and say, oh, you're, Hasan, why do you even talk about anti-Semitism?
[01:01:15] You're doing Jewish exceptionalism. You're, you know, you're Jewish supremacists, all
[01:01:18] the shit like they say like unhinged things but but this unironically is like the singularity
[01:01:24] of the holocaust the exceptional nature of the holocaust being held to such a high standard
[01:01:30] that that Israel that bills itself as the Jewish state could never be compared to the
[01:01:37] Nazis while they are literally doing the exact same shit that the Nazis did.
[01:01:42] It hasn't been completed yet but it's a still the same exact project and it's continued
[01:01:46] over the course of 80 fucking years at this point, is totally ridiculous, right?
[01:01:56] It's totally, totally absurd.
[01:02:03] This guy said this same hack, outlet had zero issue, making comparisons to Hitler and Putin
[01:02:07] in the past, Nazi Germany exterminated millions of Russians, yet only the comparison with
[01:02:10] Israel across the line.
[01:02:11] If you want a clear-cut example of Jewish exceptionalism, here it is.
[01:02:14] Yeah, the other side of this, for the record, the other side of this conversation is that,
[01:02:19] like, Israeli politicians say that. Israeli politicians say that about Hamas. And as a
[01:02:25] matter of fact, a lot of Western media outlets have made the comparison that Hamas is just like
[01:02:29] Nazis. So who gets to deploy this comparison? Because if you think Hamas is in any way, shape,
[01:02:35] or form, similar to Nazis, what is Israel supposed to be then? Considering that exact same dynamic
[01:02:43] that I will always defend that Israel is a thousand times worse than Hamas. It's not even a comparison.
[01:02:49] If you think Hamas is evil for targeting civilians on October 7, then what the fuck is Israel?
[01:02:54] We gotta use a new term for it then.
[01:03:01] Yeah, apartheid is tragic, but yet that comparison is found to be apt. So what is
[01:03:07] the reason why a Holocaust comparison or a Nazi comparison is considered a bridge too far?
[01:03:13] Right? The entire point of Holocaust scholarship is so that what Israel is doing right now
[01:03:21] does not happen. And we stop it and we point to the Holocaust and we point to the Nazis
[01:03:25] to say, this is the same kind of evil. We have to put an end to it. That is precisely
[01:03:30] the reason why the genocide statute, right? Under international law is not just about
[01:03:37] the number of people that a state or a non-state actor has killed, but it's actually about
[01:03:43] the intent as well. You can determine genocidal intent. It's not just the actions, it's the
[01:03:52] intent as well. Why is that a part of the statute? Why is that a part of the statute?
[01:03:57] There's no numerical threshold that you hit, and then all of a sudden it's like,
[01:04:01] well, it's genocide time, now we got to put an end to it. That's not how it goes.
[01:04:07] The reason for why intent matters, genocidal intent matters inside of the statute,
[01:04:12] is so that we can stop it
[01:04:17] we can stop it we can identify it while it's happening and then we can stop it
[01:04:22] before it unfolds before it ends before it finalizes
[01:04:28] taking these comparisons between i'm between
[01:04:31] what the israeli government is doing in this was jews and nazis and things they
[01:04:34] didn't all of course because how the heinous we might find what's happened in
[01:04:37] gaza and many of my listeners and viewers
[01:04:39] it is still not the same as the mass extermination and the ritualistic
[01:04:43] extermination of people which happened on a daily basis during the Holocaust.
[01:04:46] So why compare the two things?
[01:04:47] Because I don't want to get to the Holocaust.
[01:04:49] And this is the best part of this conversation.
[01:04:51] And I love having this conversation because Holocaust studies are profoundly
[01:04:55] important, but they're not profoundly important so that we can understand what
[01:04:59] to place and then, and then assume that it's never going to happen again.
[01:05:02] The entire point of genocide scholarship and specifically scholarship
[01:05:06] surrounding the Holocaust is so that we understand exactly how society can move in that direction
[01:05:12] and how people have so many otherwise kind people, I assume, can turn a blind eye to
[01:05:18] the atrocities that are unfolding so that we understand what took place and never allow
[01:05:23] it to happen again.
[01:05:24] So my point is, I think the final solution for Israel has not been achieved yet, right?
[01:05:30] This would be not dissimilar to, I guess, a communist or a socialist in Nazi Germany
[01:05:36] before the final solution pointing to the Armenian genocide.
[01:05:39] Given the Israeli, given the military capability.
[01:05:42] Oh, they cut my argument there.
[01:05:46] I literally, wait, or did they did they fucking just hit the mute?
[01:05:50] That's crazy.
[01:05:51] I said, I said, would you disagree if like a communist or a socialist during
[01:05:57] during Nazi occupation pointed to what Hitler was doing to the Jews and to the
[01:06:03] Socialists and then said this is identical to the Armenian genocide that preceded
[01:06:08] it. Would you have said well you're actually hurting the feelings of you
[01:06:12] know you're you're besmirching the good reputation of the Nazis by by making a
[01:06:17] comparison. These are just simply concentration camps. These are you know
[01:06:22] dangerous radical elements in society that must be cordoned off.
[01:06:26] That's kind of wild, but I think that's an apt comparison there as well.
[01:06:36] If a communist or a socialist during the period in Nazi Germany pointed to the Armenian genocide
[01:06:42] and said, what we're doing to the Jews right now is not dissimilar to the Armenian genocide,
[01:06:47] I'm fairly certain that the Nazi sympathizers would obviously disagree with that.
[01:06:54] said that. The point of comparison is to talk about two things that are not exactly the same.
[01:06:57] They are disputing the entire concept of comparison here, and it makes no sense. It would be wrong
[01:07:01] to say this is 100% like the Holocaust, but the comparative, compare it is completely normal. Exactly.
[01:07:07] And not only, not only is it completely normal, it's actually the whole purpose of Holocaust
[01:07:13] scholarship, right? Like the purpose of Holocaust scholarship is not just to document the atrocities
[01:07:19] that unfolded and leave it at that, and then talk about the exceptional nature of the Holocaust,
[01:07:24] The whole point of the genocide scholarship as I, you know, aptly pointed to in this conversation
[01:07:31] is to look at how it unfolded and to ensure that it never happens again. Never again means never
[01:07:37] again across the board. It doesn't mean never again as in it will never happen again because it
[01:07:43] can only happen to Jewish people one time and it won't ever happen again. Never again doesn't mean
[01:07:49] never again just for Jews either, right? Which is the Cahanist position on never again. Ironically
[01:07:55] enough, Meyer Cahan, the far-right Jewish supremacist terrorist, he believes never again means never
[01:08:02] again just for Jews. I don't. And I don't think many people believe that either. I don't even think,
[01:08:09] I don't think Jewish people believe that concept either. I think Jewish people think never again
[01:08:13] means never again. There are some who do actually believe never again means never again just for
[01:08:19] Jews however. If they wanted to commit a Holocaust against Palestinians they could do so. They
[01:08:26] haven't done so. They may have acted in a way that is dehumanizing. They may have acted in a way
[01:08:30] without proper regard for Palestinian life. I think they have. Lots of people would agree that
[01:08:34] they have. I said something at the Oxford Union that I think will also piss off a lot of people.
[01:08:38] I said that currently it has been proven that one of the only effective political force
[01:08:52] on the planet that can destroy Trumpism and the Maca movement is the IRGC, which is true.
[01:08:58] It's true.
[01:08:59] Cyrus from Lake Tiberias, the hypho for the arrival of Iranian missiles.
[01:09:03] God damn.
[01:09:04] All right, well wars back on the menu boys. All right, I guess it's back
[01:09:23] Oh to compare it to the holocaust this agreement that we have is not that my suggestion to you would be wait
[01:09:29] Why is he cutting me? What the fuck? Oh?
[01:09:32] Oh
[01:09:34] Come on LBC
[01:09:36] You cut all the crosstalk you muted me the entire time. That's crazy
[01:09:42] To this agreement that we have is not that my suggestion to you would be that it is crass and offensive
[01:09:47] Bro, they didn't even like try to make the cut seem normal. They just
[01:09:53] They hit the hard cut again. Holy moly. That's a lot
[01:09:59] Huh
[01:10:02] God damn that shit was so abrupt. It feels like a AI cut, you know what I mean? Like did they deploy an artificial intelligence to hit this cut? What the hell?
[01:10:15] Streets are calling you overly naive to the British. No, no, no, it's fine. Yeah, I know that everyone is in agreement with my point because the majority is on my side on this.
[01:10:29] But I wish that my goal when I do it
[01:10:34] When I have a conversation like this is not to fucking have the people are already anti Israel to come into my defense
[01:10:39] I mean, that's great. That's wonderful. That's the majority my goal is to
[01:10:44] Get someone in the margins to really reconsider
[01:10:48] Their hard line stance on this issue, right? That's my goal
[01:10:52] I go on LBC because there's a lot of liberals who are still
[01:10:55] who still have these ridiculous opinions, right?
[01:11:02] Ridiculous opinions around, you know,
[01:11:04] oh, if someone is actually making this comparison between,
[01:11:09] making this comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany,
[01:11:13] then they must be making an anti-Semitic comparison, right?
[01:11:17] Like that's ridiculous.
[01:11:19] To compare the only Jewish states in the world.
[01:11:22] I like that my audience, by the way,
[01:11:24] is not offended at LBC's edits. And it's more mad at me for not recording it on my end.
[01:11:30] Is there ever a point where in your eyes, Chatters, is there ever a point where you
[01:11:34] think, Hey, you got fucked over here. This is really fucked up. Uh, or, or am I always
[01:11:39] at fault under every single circumstance? I swear to God, bro. I swear to God, literally
[01:11:46] the worst fucking fan base of all time, worst community of all time when it comes to shit
[01:11:50] like this immediately hitting the yep you're at fault you fucking bitch do you
[01:12:00] guys ever think maybe it's fucked up that you know the big media company that's
[01:12:04] supposed to maintain these these liberal values and allow normal discourse to
[01:12:08] take place is is not following along with a principled stance on defending a
[01:12:15] free expression and allowing discourse to take shape like this.
[01:12:20] Part of the reason why I didn't expect this cut to take place is because there are literally
[01:12:25] LBC callers that call, like random British people that call and they don't do this kind of edit.
[01:12:38] You know.
[01:12:45] And we should, of course, be careful of aligning Israel and Judaism, of course, but it is
[01:12:59] the only Jewish state in the world, mainly comprised of Jews, comparing them to Nazis,
[01:13:03] given that Nazis literally tried to exterminate this entire race and came very close to succeeding.
[01:13:09] You don't need to do that, you shouldn't do it, and it's crassly and grossly offensively
[01:13:12] to do so.
[01:13:13] I don't mind coming across as vulgar or offensive in this regard and maybe even hurting some
[01:13:18] people's feelings because at the end of the day, the analysis here from my hand is there
[01:13:22] is a genocide that has taken place and it's continuing to a certain degree.
[01:13:25] I mean, even in the process of this so-called ceasefire, Israel has also killed approximately
[01:13:30] 4,000 people in Lebanon.
[01:13:31] The expansion in the greater Israel project is continuing.
[01:13:34] So the ideology is still unimpeded.
[01:13:37] The guiding principle is still unimpeded and therefore, I find that to be far and now.
[01:13:43] I suppose well, I'm gonna get let's get more offensive than than the language that I'm using
[01:13:47] Especially considering that I think at this stage there are a lot of people who who want to maybe hold on to some kind of defense of
[01:13:55] Israel because they understand it to be
[01:13:57] Like you just said the Jewish nation the only Jewish nation
[01:14:00] I have been unbelievably critical of Saudi Arabia and every other country that has participated in the blockade of Yemen
[01:14:07] For example the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia did that with our weapons once again
[01:14:10] And the other reason that other people might say that it's offensive or deeply offensive
[01:14:13] Well, they cut it. I I that's that's fucked up that they cut that part because I brought
[01:14:17] up the Saudi Arabia comparison and nobody and I said no one calls me Islamophobic for
[01:14:23] being critical of the Muslim state of Saudi Arabia engaging in you know, heinous war crimes
[01:14:29] against Yemen and the Yemeni population. No one says that about my criticisms of UAE
[01:14:34] In fact, RSEF supporters hitting Sudan, that's not considered to be Islamophobic.
[01:14:40] But of course, any kind of Nazi comparison between Israel, if you call Saudi Arabia Nazis,
[01:14:47] no one is going to fucking say shit, right?
[01:14:49] If you call Saudi Arabia a Nazi country for what they did in Yemen, no one's going to
[01:14:54] get mad at that comparison.
[01:14:56] Same with Russia, right?
[01:14:57] You say Adolf Putler.
[01:14:58] Adolf Putler is invading Ukraine.
[01:15:00] He's behaving like a Nazi.
[01:15:02] Nobody bats an eye.
[01:15:03] As a matter of fact, you call Hamas Nazis, nobody buts an eye.
[01:15:06] The Israeli government has made that comparison over and over again.
[01:15:09] But all of a sudden when you turn around and say, no, actually, I think the industrial
[01:15:12] mass slaughter taking places in the hands of Israel and therefore they are the Nazis
[01:15:18] in this equation and everybody goes, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[01:15:24] That's unbelievable.
[01:15:25] How dare you say that?
[01:15:29] You know?
[01:15:30] It's however disproportionate we might think the Israeli government has been in the reaction to October the 7th
[01:15:35] And I would agree with you that it has been disproportionate in many cases appalling October the 7th did happen
[01:15:41] 1300 Jews were yeah, and then and then it's like well October 7 was was heinous. It's like okay
[01:15:50] Sure
[01:15:52] But also the Israel is a thousand times worse than Hamas is once again
[01:15:57] once again
[01:15:59] Not something that you can contest so then you have to rely on the feelings on the feelings argument the optics argument
[01:16:05] Oh, let me tell you how you can make a better point here and it's like no
[01:16:08] I think I'm making a pretty strong point
[01:16:10] I think about my liberal mother when I hear this conversation
[01:16:12] She's become very anti Israel and thinks is genocidal apartheid state that unduly influences the US and should receive zero funding or arms
[01:16:18] It should be boycotted
[01:16:19] But she also gets uncomfortable with the Nazi comparison because she grew up believing that Israel was given as an apology to the Jewish people by Europe
[01:16:26] because of their crimes and complicity
[01:16:29] Yeah, but it's not Europe's land to give. It's not European people that are being slaughtered.
[01:16:37] And even then it would not be appropriate regardless. Nothing justifies the genocide.
[01:16:41] Nothing justifies ethnic cleansing.
[01:16:43] Killed in the most horrendous, heinous way that we might imagine. It was a pogrom. There
[01:16:49] is a major security problem for the state of Israel with Hamas.
[01:16:52] And then I defend the argument that, because he then launches into Hamas did October 7
[01:16:58] semantically, which is again, ridiculous. Okay. It's ridiculous. That, that is another one
[01:17:04] that I, I, I can't stand when people are like, well, no, Hamas is anti-Semitic and they
[01:17:07] did October 7 anti-Semitic Lee. It's like, no, that's not the case. And then he's going
[01:17:11] to, I know he brings up the Hamas charter for 1988 when it was a Islamic, Islamic charity
[01:17:16] as a Muslim brotherhood cut out, which had, you know, which wasn't a political movement
[01:17:22] or even a militant resistance at that point. 2017, the new charter actually has, has evolved
[01:17:27] be on that not that it even matters at the end of the day
[01:17:31] i hope they kept all of that and protect their own citizens and their own people
[01:17:35] to compare that to the holocaust the holocaust the nazis weren't the nazis weren't to compare
[01:17:39] them to nazis the nazis weren't provoked by jews into the holocaust there was no security
[01:17:43] problem for the nazis and so to combine and compare and allide those things is not just
[01:17:48] offensive or wrong it's just crazy
[01:17:50] no um your analysis is actually a historical and unfortunately categorically false of
[01:17:54] which was the nazis of course the nazis
[01:17:56] lied about not only jews but socialist communist unionists alike
[01:18:00] they were never attacked by jews presented in yes of course they presented an
[01:18:04] argument as to why they must do this why they must
[01:18:06] depose and and uh... take care of
[01:18:08] all of these uh... nefarious elements within
[01:18:11] uh... german society broadly
[01:18:12] while they were also carrying out the the uh... you know greater at germany
[01:18:16] project for uh... living room purposes right not dissimilar to the
[01:18:19] israeli's honest expansion
[01:18:21] but
[01:18:22] that the point is
[01:18:24] do you agree with the propaganda or the arguments do i agree with the nazi
[01:18:27] argument that the seven-fold propaganda i don't agree with the notion that
[01:18:32] palestinians
[01:18:34] uh... the the uh... indigenous population uh... predating nineteen forty eight
[01:18:38] uh... could not
[01:18:39] potentially live alongside
[01:18:40] uh... migrant jews that were coming in
[01:18:43] uh... specifically as a as a what about how much more about living next to a
[01:18:46] massive organization which is dedicated to the restructuring is a great i'm
[01:18:48] gonna get the house as well so the reason i brought that up is because
[01:18:51] this has been
[01:18:52] uh... a a racist ideologies in nineteen forty or even prior nineteen forty eight
[01:18:56] that has had a lot of opposition from june's as well the
[01:18:58] initial
[01:18:59] uh... the the original
[01:19:01] uh... the only jewish member
[01:19:03] in the bridge parliament that uh... the only member of the problems that pose
[01:19:05] balfour declaration was you know a a uh... jewish member of parliament who
[01:19:09] thought that this was
[01:19:10] uh... simply to try and uh... this initiative is being taken uh... this
[01:19:12] initiative is being implemented
[01:19:14] exclusively due to pose of the jews at the port
[01:19:16] uh... jews from uh... british soil
[01:19:18] throughout this entire history
[01:19:20] Israel and Palestine this conflict gets reduced to an ethnic conflict or religious conflict. It's not true
[01:19:25] It's it's simply settler colonial expansion and of course there's going to be militant opposition towards that and that militant opposition
[01:19:31] Is of course going to evolve over time so the idea we are we are how can we're not in 1948 and so therefore Israel has got
[01:19:42] Why do they always try to bring up what about October 7 on repeat
[01:19:45] I don't think they have something such as the avid is failed defending Israel
[01:19:48] Yes, but it doesn't because they've hit. Yeah, he just went womp-womp, right? On
[01:19:54] you know, 80 years of apartheid and and death and destruction, which is why, look,
[01:19:59] my goal here is to basically get the audience to understand that a person that does this at this
[01:20:07] stage when the overwhelming majority recognize what Israel is doing is to be, you know, utterly
[01:20:12] immoral and wrong, is to expose the underlying fundamentals that are driving this argument,
[01:20:20] right? The reality of the matter is those fundamentals are, yes, Palestinians are lesser
[01:20:25] than Israelis. That is the underlying point of view. That is the underlying framework, okay?
[01:20:37] And I do bring up the Warsaw ghetto uprising ironically enough when I say like what you
[01:20:45] think the Nazis didn't actually create sufficient propaganda to claim that Jews were the enemy
[01:20:50] from within. Of course they did. There were plenty of moments where Jewish partisans and
[01:20:57] socialists alike, they assassinated key Nazi diplomats and Nazis use that as a heinous
[01:21:05] crime against their sovereignty. They use that to depose the Jews. They use that to kidnap
[01:21:12] Jews. Is that valid? No, of course not. The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising does not justify the
[01:21:18] final solution, for example, and therefore October 7 does not justify Israel's genocide.
[01:21:28] This is a real point of contention that I don't think many liberals can address. Liberals
[01:21:34] honest cannot address this point of contention. So they have to resort back to, yeah, but
[01:21:40] you're hurting my feelings.
[01:21:41] To find a way to live alongside the Palestinian people, you and I were sure we both agree
[01:21:46] to say that their actions have not exactly contributed to that principle or idea in recent
[01:21:50] years, but they do have to deal with her mass. And how do they deal with her mass, which
[01:21:53] is literally predicated?
[01:21:54] Yeah, I can't even hear what I'm saying here.
[01:21:56] To live alongside the Palestinian people, you and I were sure we both agree to say that
[01:21:59] their actions have not exactly contributed to that principle or idea in recent years,
[01:22:03] They do have to deal with Hamas and how do they deal with him?
[01:22:05] Oh, yeah, I said no, I disagree with that. It's entirely in the hands of Israel
[01:22:09] Yeah, no
[01:22:11] Hamas doesn't exist as a militancy if the occupation doesn't exist. It's that simple
[01:22:18] Can you slow it down again? They lower your audio too much. Yeah
[01:22:23] It is kind of it's kind of crazy how much they fucking you know
[01:22:27] Like they they just they just chopped my shit up so hard. Holy fuck. It's this is worse than I expected
[01:22:36] I'll be honest. I I did not think it was gonna be like that. That is kind of wild
[01:22:41] I have far too much confidence in European liberalism. I it's naivete for sure
[01:22:47] This is a straightforward hatchet job at that point, right? I mean come on that that's a that's actually kind of messed up
[01:22:57] That's actually kind of fucking messed up dude. I mean it didn't work, but even then it's like kind of crazy
[01:23:11] What's crazy is it still didn't work ironically enough
[01:23:15] Like they're they they tried to they tried to literally lower the volume
[01:23:20] They they chopped up some of my statements and even then it still didn't get the job done
[01:23:25] And I think I would go so far as to say
[01:23:31] That the very fact that they tried to silence me in this way makes their position look even worse
[01:23:40] As which is literally predicate you say the the israeli races is based on a racist idea Hamas is deeply racist
[01:23:45] They're anti-gay. I don't know. I don't think so. You don't think I disagree with all the Hamas charter contains references to fighting
[01:23:50] Jews as a religious duty conspiracy claims about Jews controlling the media finance and revolutions of wars citations and anti-Semitic
[01:23:55] forgery of the protocols of the Ardors of Zion and a notorious thief about
[01:23:58] muslim fighting and killing Jews before judgment day. So you're referencing the 1988
[01:24:02] charter which has been updated since 2017 but it doesn't really matter because
[01:24:05] the point of the matter or their opinions do I think Hamas likes Jews I
[01:24:08] think that there are definitely anti-Semitic people in Palestinian society as
[01:24:11] there are in British society right? There are anti-Semitic people in British society
[01:24:14] killing Jews on a regular basis. It's because there is no real occup- there's no
[01:24:18] military occupation of England. If there was a military occupation of England by
[01:24:21] foreign body by an alien force, then I'm pretty sure you would probably rise up in arms as
[01:24:26] well. And this is not just a principle that, you know, I'm coming up with as a campus or
[01:24:30] someone who opposes imperialism. It's not pure idealism. This is something that former
[01:24:33] heads of Shembet have also acknowledged personally. I mean, this is something that former heads
[01:24:37] of the Israeli state of acknowledge saying, if I was on the other side of this boundary,
[01:24:40] I would become a terrorist as well. And it's perfectly understandable that people would
[01:24:43] oppose 80 years of militant occupation, militant racist occupation, commiliation and subjugation.
[01:24:49] And to go back to the point that you were making about like there was no, there was
[01:24:52] no resistance from Jewish partisans.
[01:24:55] This is also not true.
[01:24:56] Jewish partisans engaged in incredibly honest and an incredibly moral acts of violence that
[01:25:01] was necessary at the time against Key Nazi officials, including an uprising known as the
[01:25:05] Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.
[01:25:06] And that was perfectly valid.
[01:25:07] It was perfectly morally just, even though there were heinous acts of violence that took
[01:25:10] place.
[01:25:11] Histories riddled with colonial occupants and even slaves, for example.
[01:25:15] You've been reported saying-
[01:25:16] child slavery, engaging in heinous acts of violence that we would oppose at the time
[01:25:20] that ultimately lead to liberation.
[01:25:22] And once the dust is settled, we look back.
[01:25:23] What does liberation look like?
[01:25:24] What does liberation look like?
[01:25:25] Is it Israeli state collapsing or what does it look like?
[01:25:28] Great question.
[01:25:29] So from my perspective, and I'm not Palestinian, right?
[01:25:32] So I think ultimately this is something that should be left to the people that are being
[01:25:36] occupied to come to terms with.
[01:25:39] But from my estimation, I agree with the likes of Avi Shlame, famous Iraqi Jewish-Israeli
[01:25:45] historian that a abolition of the apartheid state that currently exists in the end of
[01:25:50] the occupation must take place.
[01:25:52] Some people believe in a bi-national commitment.
[01:25:54] I think that's perfectly valid.
[01:25:56] Some people claim that a two-state is viable.
[01:25:58] I don't necessarily believe that a two-state with the 67 boundaries is viable because of
[01:26:01] the fact that since the so-called peace process since the 90s, Israel has deliberately extended
[01:26:07] the settlement operations in the West Bank and now the number of Jewish settlers that
[01:26:10] are-
[01:26:11] Will you accept that something the Israeli government have long wanted and for understandable
[01:26:13] reasons is that Hamas-
[01:26:14] Notice how, notice how kind of while considering he posted a whole
[01:26:18] thread on why the ban was wrong,
[01:26:19] but he clearly let his liberal sensibilities get the better of him, uh,
[01:26:23] during this conversation. Yeah.
[01:26:26] This is counterproductive authoritarian chilling.
[01:26:28] The British state should not be in the business of banning commentators and
[01:26:30] journals from entering the country without compelling reason,
[01:26:32] find their views objectionable is nowhere near enough.
[01:26:35] The Connie case was far more borderline,
[01:26:37] but the idea of this becoming more routine was exactly my fear.
[01:26:39] When I spoke and wrote about this unease at the prohibition, uh,
[01:26:42] from the country a few months ago,
[01:26:44] Piker said some stupid and revolting things, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't be telling British cultural organizations
[01:26:48] They can't invite him to their events or that the threat of the home office prohibition becomes a routine consideration
[01:26:53] Meanwhile, jing is a mainstream US commentator on the left. I'm a mainstream US commentator on the left ironically enough
[01:27:00] Not only am I a mainstream US commentator on the left, but also
[01:27:04] Beyond that like one of the things that these guys also have to now come to terms with is like I'm not just like some fucking random
[01:27:11] aberration, right? I'm not like some random radical. I'm a person who is a megaphone for a much
[01:27:19] broader, much larger movement. And not only that, but also I'm collaborating with other
[01:27:26] candidates that are not just running, but also winning, right? So there is definitely a lot
[01:27:33] of people who feel this way. So you're not going to be able to silence all of these people,
[01:27:40] Even if you try to engage in this like disciplining measure against one fucking figurehead that is representative of a much broader movement, right?
[01:27:54] I'm sorry to the LBC chopped you this way. Yeah, but even with the chop if they didn't achieve anything here
[01:28:00] I the irony is if they had let it ride it still would have looked bad for them
[01:28:05] But I think it looks worse for them that they chopped it down too
[01:28:10] You know, I personally think like the uncut version of this would still look bad for them.
[01:28:20] But I think this looks worse for them, ironically enough, especially because the broader points
[01:28:25] that I make, obviously come across in this conversation.
[01:28:30] It's not like they, it's not like there was any opportunity for them to chop it down entirely.
[01:28:35] Otherwise it would just be Louis Goodall talking.
[01:28:38] And then every now and then I just go, uh, and then they cut it, right?
[01:28:41] Cause every, every moment that I have the camera on me, every moment that I'm on the
[01:28:47] microphone, I'm obviously hitting all of the fucking lines, uh, that they clearly don't
[01:28:52] want to have, right?
[01:28:54] They don't want to air on the fucking LBC broadcast, but they have to because is the
[01:28:59] conversation is, is taking place between myself and Lewis, right?
[01:29:02] So like, you know,
[01:29:07] And DR would demilitarize as an exchange for any deal.
[01:29:11] Do you think that would be a reasonable request that Hamas would lay down their weapons?
[01:29:14] I think that it's perfectly reasonable for a two-state solution, if that's what the
[01:29:19] suggestion is, a two-state solution where one of the two states is still going to have
[01:29:23] a standing military.
[01:29:25] Will that be Hamas as a political organization or will that be the Palestinian national forces?
[01:29:29] I do not know.
[01:29:30] But ultimately, of course, if there is a sovereign state, a sovereign Palestinian state, of course
[01:29:34] they're going to have a standing military.
[01:29:36] It doesn't have to be Hamas.
[01:29:37] married to the idea, I don't necessarily care. To me, Hamas is simply one of the many different
[01:29:44] Palestinian resistance groups that has existed throughout time. I don't agree with their
[01:29:49] domestic policies, but I feel like that is utterly immaterial because the conversation
[01:29:53] that we're having is about ending the occupation. And Hamas ultimately wants to end the occupation.
[01:29:58] Hamas would never exist and certainly would not be as violent as it has been if there
[01:30:02] hadn't been 80 years of occupation prior. Hamas, when we're talking about the charter
[01:30:05] 1988 that charter was written when Hamas wasn't even an actual political organization
[01:30:09] But a Muslim brotherhood cut out there was an Islamic charity that was even getting funds from the Israeli government as a matter of
[01:30:13] Fact, I'm thinking about the reasons why it might be that the home office is as has banned you and I certainly for what the record
[01:30:19] By the way, I don't think you should probably part of it
[01:30:21] Don't you think well? Well, that's what I want to discuss and for the record when I tweet out this week
[01:30:24] I think ridiculous that you've been banned
[01:30:25] I think that you know and so on but let's think about the home office is justification what it might be
[01:30:29] I mean, is it true that you said that you considered
[01:30:32] Hamas to be a thousand times better than Israel and you'd vote for Hamas over his
[01:30:35] Every single time is that true and you stand by it? Yeah, I do
[01:30:38] That's the spot that Hamas was responsible for October the 7th and a pogrom against Jewish people
[01:30:42] You say you'd vote for them a thousand times over the democratic
[01:30:44] People it wasn't a pogrom against Jewish people were there were there atrocities and war crimes?
[01:30:48] I don't think there was any anti-semitism involved in it. Absolutely. This is where you go wrong. That's how you find yourself
[01:30:52] Basically in a position defending
[01:30:55] Why I'm wrong. I'm telling you why you're wrong. Ah, I said don't tell me I'm wrong. Tell me why I'm wrong. I
[01:31:02] Hear a lot of I hear a lot of criticisms
[01:31:05] you call me a lot of names but never a liar
[01:31:08] because you're honestly saying you saw jewish people jewish people
[01:31:11] or overwhelmingly jewish people killed that day
[01:31:13] it was a problem it was the biggest program of jews that we've seen
[01:31:15] against jews we've seen since the end of the second one why do you find yourself
[01:31:18] in a position where you're like okay i'm actually gonna defend that principle i'm
[01:31:21] gonna defend the argument about that why you just undermine yourself
[01:31:24] great question i actually gave an interview the times you can on this as
[01:31:27] well
[01:31:27] and uh... i'll explain exactly why so
[01:31:30] october seven
[01:31:31] was was uh...
[01:31:32] traumatic it was either heinous acts of positive place
[01:31:35] no doubt about it uh... i don't i would never agree that i mean i would never
[01:31:38] disagree with that assessment
[01:31:40] uh... what i will disagree with however is the the intentionality the idea that
[01:31:44] october seven was done specifically to kill as many jewish people as possible i
[01:31:47] think is is incorrect i think i'll tell us that's not a palestinian resistance
[01:31:51] whether we agree with their methods or tactics are not nice certainly have my
[01:31:54] disagreements
[01:31:55] uh... the ultimate goal of this agreement they killed a thousand hundred people
[01:31:58] and right of course of course is the people that means that all but the
[01:32:01] ultimate goal is to to make the occupation as costly as possible
[01:32:04] because the extended 80 year or at the time, 75 year occupation had done October 7th.
[01:32:10] So the end justify the means, you know?
[01:32:11] The end justify the means.
[01:32:13] If I can compare it to something in the UK, I don't believe that the Israeli ends justify the means.
[01:32:17] And that's precisely the reason why I'm saying.
[01:32:18] So why do you then say that Hamas is a thousand times better than?
[01:32:21] I come on, you can't be, you can't literally be lowering my volume at this point.
[01:32:29] Like that's crosstalk.
[01:32:31] That's, that's just straight up. You gotta let me, you gotta let my voice be heard, man.
[01:32:38] You gotta let my voice be heard in this point. I mean, this is literally the meat of the
[01:32:43] argument. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I did it. You got home court advantage, but you
[01:32:54] can't be this aggressive with it. Because at this point, at this point, it turns into
[01:33:00] like I'm losing the argument so I'm just gonna silence you and I'm not even gonna fucking hide it.
[01:33:05] Like with the other cuts, with the other crosstalk audio levels, you could at least justify it by
[01:33:11] saying, oh well we wanted to make sure that we made this editing, made this editorial decision for
[01:33:16] brevity, for clarity, but in this circumstance, it's quite deliberate. You are literally lowering
[01:33:23] my volume because you don't want your audience to hear my perspective, which again is the
[01:33:29] exact opposite of the whole point or whole purpose of having me on the broadcast.
[01:33:35] Did you have me on your broadcast so you could try and, you know, bully me into submission?
[01:33:41] Or did you have me on the broadcast to have a good faith, honest discussion about disagreements
[01:33:46] that we might have?
[01:33:49] I've been very courteous throughout this entire process.
[01:33:53] I don't imply in any way shape or form that like Lewis Goodall is a as a stooge for Israel or or
[01:34:00] Defending Israel and Israeli interests or anything like that. I'm just saying look we're we might have some disagreements
[01:34:06] It's a good faith honest liberal style conversation. I
[01:34:12] Find it very strange that this is you know, this is what they chose to do
[01:34:18] They wanted to be the ones to silence you or an upset Shabana Mahmood got to you first. Yeah, first
[01:34:27] amendment only function in the US. This is not a first amendment conversation, Chatter. I think
[01:34:32] when you have, when you, when you invite someone onto your broadcast and you have disagreements
[01:34:37] with that person, I think it's a little dishonest to literally lower their, their volume, especially
[01:34:44] when the crosstalk is taking place, right? Come on. Then don't have me on the broadcast.
[01:34:54] Don't have me on the broadcast then. What's the purpose?
[01:35:00] I mean, how is this any different than what Shabana Mahmood did, right? If you're in disagreement with
[01:35:06] what the home office did, which Louis is, right? Then don't you feel like this is not this similar?
[01:35:14] Look, I didn't, you know, you can make an argument as to why they cut some of the
[01:35:18] statements that I was making for brevity, for clarity, right?
[01:35:23] You can make that argument.
[01:35:24] I don't know if I agree with it, but you can't really make that argument here.
[01:35:28] Okay.
[01:35:29] You can't really make that argument in this point because this is just purely,
[01:35:32] uh, lowering my audio to, to, you know, make it harder, make it harder for the
[01:35:39] audience to hear what I have to say here.
[01:35:41] I don't believe that the Israeli ends to justify the means and that's precisely the reason why I'm saying so why do you then say that Hamas is a thousand times better than Israel because Israel has done an October 7 1000 times over to the Palestinian population.
[01:36:01] to the Palestinian population, um, the, the civilian cap.
[01:36:19] As you will teach, they often tell people where they're going to bomb.
[01:36:21] I'm not defending Israel.
[01:36:22] I'm not defending Israel as I'm, but like, I think that a lot of people,
[01:36:24] if you look at the facts, that's crazy, but that's the point I'm driving home.
[01:36:27] And this is the reason why I have this conversation because a lot of people
[01:36:30] have, uh, due to social conditioning, this kind of hang up where they don't want to analyze
[01:36:35] the situation in an effort to actually make sure that there's no more violence. I'm, I,
[01:36:39] I abhor that. No, just don't minimize October 7th. I mean, to compare it, to compare it to,
[01:36:43] say, a British context, you could have absolutely said, I'm sure you would be in this position,
[01:36:46] you could say, look, I have, uh, complete solidarity with the Irish Republican cause,
[01:36:51] but you don't need to have solidarity with the Irish Republican army and what they did
[01:36:55] against the UK killing innocent civilians. It is possible to have both thoughts in your head
[01:36:58] at the same time, you can have complete solidarity with the Palestinian people without defending
[01:37:02] Hamas a single bit. And you do defend Hamas. And that's what's objectionable about your point.
[01:37:06] I defend anti-colonial resistance movements when there are aspects of their anti-colonial resistance
[01:37:12] or their ideology. There's nothing to defend. They kill innocent people. There's nothing to defend.
[01:37:16] A lot of Palestinians don't defend them either. They hate them because they can
[01:37:19] kill innocent kids. Well, the question is this, right? The question I would present to you is this.
[01:37:23] Do you think that the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was a condemnable act by Jewish partisans that got together and organized to fight back?
[01:37:32] I don't think the situations are the same. No.
[01:37:34] Why not? At that point, the whole class had been completely implemented.
[01:37:37] Oh, but Kristallnacht had systemic destruction of Jewish people. They're all being rounded up into ghettos.
[01:37:41] And I'm not saying that, Hassan, of course.
[01:37:43] Dude, you just described the current conditions of Palestinians.
[01:37:48] You literally described the conditions of Palestinians leading up to October 7.
[01:37:53] What do you think? What do you think 80 years, or even longer than that, down like, but since 1947, 1948, 75 years of apartheid and subjugation and death and destruction, what do you think that looked like?
[01:38:06] That's worse than Kristallnacht. Literally, like numbers-wise, that was worse. That, like, in totality. It's, it's spanned across 80 fucking years. Of course, it's literally going, it's like more heinous at that point.
[01:38:21] It's pre-final solution. The comparison is Warsaw ghetto uprising is taking place. There's been violence against Jews
[01:38:28] There's been obviously Jews have been and ghettoized Jews have been ghettoized
[01:38:33] They've been placed inside of these these concentration camps, right and obviously they're fighting back and it's earnest
[01:38:40] It's honest. It's just it's appropriate for them to do so
[01:38:45] Regardless of what the fucking
[01:38:47] Cost is on the other side. Israel is doing fucking crystal knocks on a daily basis leading up to October 7. What are we talking about?
[01:38:57] It's totally ridiculous
[01:38:59] That argument is totally fucking ridiculous. Here's of apartheid. I don't use of apartheid. I do not for a single second
[01:39:05] It's violent. I do not I do not fall yet. There you go
[01:39:08] And I bring home that point but a single second and by the way, let's talk about the war so get a that way
[01:39:14] were attacking SS officers, they were attacking their represses, not kids at music festivals.
[01:39:19] I don't disagree with you as far as the targeting of civilians. I'm simply stating, and these
[01:39:25] are, these are condemnable actions which I have condemned. What I'm simply stating is
[01:39:28] the principle overall of the end to the occupation and militant resistance in an effort to create
[01:39:35] an end to the occupation is literally a fundamental aspect of every successful liberation movement.
[01:39:42] So when I actually criticize, when I actually analyze the actions taken by not only Hamas
[01:39:47] but also Hezbollah right now, for example, because Lebanon is currently being pummeled
[01:39:50] by Israel once again, I placed the emphasis on the colonial occupant.
[01:39:55] I placed the emphasis on the foreign occupying power because they hold all the car.
[01:39:59] Look, I get everything he's saying, but you know, when-
[01:40:01] But you don't.
[01:40:02] But you don't.
[01:40:04] Israel has the power to end all of this and they choose not to.
[01:40:09] So how would you defend that?
[01:40:10] You should ask this guy about BBC reporting on Israeli teens being kidnapped from tanks.
[01:40:15] It's very interesting that everyone killed on October 7th was an innocent civilian.
[01:40:17] Yeah. I mean, look, look. Iran is attacking Israel right now. I know. I know. We're going
[01:40:25] to get to it in a second. You need to learn about the IRA so you can corner these spineless
[01:40:30] brits. No, I do know about the IRA. I do. I did defend it. I said like the IRA in that
[01:40:35] moment when he asked me, I was like, the IRA was engaging in anti-colonial resistance.
[01:40:39] i i'm in support of it i'm in favor of say
[01:40:41] that i'm asking a thousand times better than israeli let's leave aside the fact
[01:40:44] that israel whatever we think about it is a democratic state admittedly one has
[01:40:46] been going down a moral authority in direction you say you'd vote for is
[01:40:49] democratically uh... in favor of of genocide in apartheid so it's also
[01:40:53] got arab israeli
[01:40:55] but
[01:40:56] all know
[01:40:57] the democratically voted to murder every palestinian
[01:41:01] who cares about democracy at that point what are we talking about it's a
[01:41:04] of it's a fucking apartheid. Yeah, well, if they voted democratically to fucking killed
[01:41:15] by the most conservative estimate, 75,000 Palestinians, overwhelming majority women
[01:41:23] and children of the elderly, well, then, you know, oops, can't do anything about that,
[01:41:27] right? Can't do anything about that. Did the Palestinians vote for their own demise? No,
[01:41:32] didn't because Israel is the colonial occupant, is the sovereign occupant nation over all of
[01:41:39] the Palestinians that live there.
[01:41:41] So clearly it doesn't matter because they don't get a say, do the Palestinians of the
[01:41:44] West Bank get a say over their occupation?
[01:41:46] No, of course not.
[01:41:47] It's ridiculous.
[01:41:48] It's a ridiculous conversation.
[01:41:50] And even if that wasn't the case, then what?
[01:41:53] Israel democratically voted to invade a foreign nation then?
[01:41:56] That's still completely ridiculous, you know?
[01:41:58] It's who live there as citizens with others, so which is not the same as apartheid inside
[01:42:03] that.
[01:42:04] They're considered second class citizens as dictated by the Israeli constitution.
[01:42:06] But the point is, there are varying degrees, there are varying degrees of discrimination
[01:42:09] in Israeli society.
[01:42:10] But I tell you, where there's a lot of discrimination, under, in Hamas run guards, I mean, how...
[01:42:13] This part was ridiculous.
[01:42:14] Did you feel about being a gay man, for example, living under Hamas, or a woman, for example?
[01:42:18] And you say you would vote for them a thousand times over, you can't vote for them.
[01:42:20] I know gay Palestinians, and they would say the exact same thing that I'm about to tell
[01:42:23] you, the biggest threat to their existence is the Israeli occupation.
[01:42:26] They might have disagreements with Hamas.
[01:42:28] They might not appreciate pushed off the bridge elements.
[01:42:31] Now that's racialized.
[01:42:32] That's not racialized.
[01:42:33] It literally happens.
[01:42:34] The LGBTQ group hasn't.
[01:42:35] LGBT groups around the world condemned that.
[01:42:38] That's not true.
[01:42:39] That's not true.
[01:42:40] Do you think that that is, I will have to push back on this.
[01:42:42] What you're saying is actually not true.
[01:42:45] And also a little bit messed up to say because these groups are very different from one another.
[01:42:50] I am not an Islamist personally, obviously.
[01:42:52] I am not someone who's ever going to be in favor of religious fundamentalism.
[01:42:56] Hamas does not represent religious fundamentalist government governance.
[01:43:00] It represents-
[01:43:01] You can get up to 10 years in prison for being gay. You can get up to 10 years in prison for
[01:43:04] being gay down the barrel of a Hamas gun. That wouldn't happen to Intellivieve. Whatever
[01:43:08] you think about Israel, that wouldn't happen to Intellivieve.
[01:43:10] It doesn't matter. This is what I mean when I say homofascism, by the way, for the record.
[01:43:13] I hope that people understand that, which he's going to bring up later as well. This
[01:43:17] is literally pinkwashing a genocidal apartheid state that is conducting a genocidal apartheid
[01:43:22] state. This is literally it. Oh, well, Hamas would mistreat the gays. It's like, okay, well,
[01:43:28] you know who mistreats the gays? Israel. Far worse. Far worse, faith befalls the gay Palestinian
[01:43:34] population under American, British, and Israeli bombs. It's ridiculous.
[01:43:43] This is what I mean when I say this is, this is genuinely, this is what I mean when I say this
[01:43:47] This is like gay fascism. Okay. The fuck. And the whole like, oh, well, you know, same
[01:43:56] sex marriage is not allowed in Israel. It doesn't even matter. It's not even the fucking
[01:44:00] main point of convention.
[01:44:01] The mosque can be the most homophobic entity on the planet and it still wouldn't justify
[01:44:05] Israel's actions, guys. Wake up. Hello. Like, do you guys understand the reason why I don't
[01:44:14] even entertain this like well Israel is homophobic too is because it's a
[01:44:18] stupid argument I don't give a fuck if Hamas is the most homophobic entity in
[01:44:23] the region okay it's not but it doesn't even matter if it was would that justify
[01:44:28] a fucking genocide what are we talking about there's plenty of people in
[01:44:32] Alabama that are homophobic that have the identical opinions that this person
[01:44:35] falsely says Hamas has should we be fucking genocide in the state of
[01:44:40] Alabama? Of course not! That's insane!
[01:44:44] Ugh!
[01:45:04] Because the gay people might not think it matters.
[01:45:06] There's really bombs.
[01:45:07] You might not think it matters.
[01:45:08] Yeah, but you're the one saying that I would vote for them a thousand times.
[01:45:11] But I agree with you.
[01:45:12] Right now, as I have, they would tell you that the number one problem is not Hamas,
[01:45:16] it's Israel.
[01:45:17] There are Palestinians whose family members have posed to Hamas.
[01:45:20] There are different, yes, exactly.
[01:45:22] There are Palestinians from different factions, right?
[01:45:24] There are Palestinians that are engaging in tribal conflict and sectarian conflict sometimes
[01:45:29] with Hamas.
[01:45:30] And yet, they will always tell you.
[01:45:32] Maybe this is why you've been banned.
[01:45:33] The number one problem from the Palestinian perspective is of course the occupying forces,
[01:45:39] is of course the country that is maintaining apartheid, the nuclear armed nation that has
[01:45:43] not only just done a genocide in the last three years, but also maintained an apartheid
[01:45:47] for the last 80 at this point.
[01:45:50] This is the reason why-
[01:45:51] This is the thing, you can believe that Israel has committed unbelievably appalling atrocities.
[01:45:55] You can even believe it's committed evil atrocities.
[01:45:57] You can even believe that it's committed a genocide while still believing that Hamas
[01:46:01] is morally and politically appalling, that you wouldn't say that I would vote for them
[01:46:04] a thousand times over Israel, because it deliberately targets civilians, it deliberately
[01:46:08] targets civilians as an organization, it rejects coexistence, and it's fundamentally authoritarian
[01:46:13] and theocratic.
[01:46:14] But here's the problem.
[01:46:15] Israel mathematically deliberately targets and destroys the lives of a far larger number
[01:46:20] of people.
[01:46:21] But it's just the utilitarian measure.
[01:46:22] Do we think, do we, yes, do we think that, do we think that Palestinians are human beings?
[01:46:26] I think you and I don't disagree on this, they're human beings, right?
[01:46:28] But do you think the Nazis are worse than the Israelis?
[01:46:29] One party is killed.
[01:46:30] one party is really government thousands times
[01:46:32] let me let me see this question
[01:46:33] if one party if one government is killed
[01:46:35] a thousand times more if not
[01:46:37] more than a thousand times more civilians
[01:46:39] uh... as opposed to the other party of course you're going to be compared to
[01:46:42] the other parties but you would accept the nazis were worse than what the
[01:46:44] Israeli government has done
[01:46:45] so far at the nazis of course are worse than what the Israeli government has done
[01:46:48] however
[01:46:49] my fear
[01:46:50] and this is the reason why genocide is not measured
[01:46:52] uh... in in how successful it was in wiping out an entire
[01:46:55] uh... population but instead genocide nowadays the statute itself
[01:46:59] is measured not with the actions alone, but also with the intent, because the whole purpose
[01:47:03] of the genocide statute is to stop it.
[01:47:04] Do you think this might be why you've, and again, I don't agree with the fact you've
[01:47:07] been banned, but maybe, maybe this is why you've been banned.
[01:47:09] That's a crazy moment to say maybe this is why you've been banned, because I just described
[01:47:14] the genocide statute and why Israel is a thousand times worse objectively than Hamas
[01:47:20] is by any measure that you could fucking point to.
[01:47:24] And he, I mean, this is a matter of international law.
[01:47:27] So basically, at this point, you're giving the game away, you're like, I can't, I don't
[01:47:31] agree with, I can't defend my position while maintaining an upholding liberal values that
[01:47:38] I'm supposed to be championing here.
[01:47:39] So it's, I guess, the reason why you should be banned.
[01:47:42] Okay?
[01:47:43] There you have it.
[01:47:45] That's my point.
[01:47:46] And that's actually, unironically, the thing that you oppose when you tweeted about how
[01:47:51] you think Shabana Mahmood is in the wrong. This is it. This is the extent of liberal
[01:48:06] humanitarianism, internationalism. There's no commitment there. And this is how a society
[01:48:11] crumbles. This is how liberalism falls by the wayside and fascism comes into power. This
[01:48:18] This is it.
[01:48:20] That's literally what's going on.
[01:48:21] You're like, oh, well, I don't agree with you and you've actually made me feel bad.
[01:48:24] So you should be banned, I guess.
[01:48:26] Like that's it.
[01:48:27] That's it.
[01:48:28] That's the whole point.
[01:48:29] You can't do that.
[01:48:30] If we're going to uphold principled free speech, then you can't turn around and be like, well,
[01:48:36] I disagree with you, you know?
[01:48:40] Your dialectic is exposing his inherent contradictions of cognitive dissonance.
[01:48:44] Exactly.
[01:48:48] It's just it's just totally ridiculous. I know we're gonna get to Israel's Israel being bombed currently in a second
[01:48:55] Okay, I know
[01:48:56] Iran is bombing Israel while we're having this
[01:49:00] Openly support maybe ultimately this is why I'm gonna be and I don't support your banning
[01:49:03] But maybe the British government has decided, you know, what supported a little bit
[01:49:07] No, I don't I think you I don't agree with a lot of what you say, but I'm absolutely happy for you to come to Britain on this
[01:49:11] Chabal mood has a different view clearly and or at least our home office does and maybe that's why because ultimately
[01:49:16] They think that we don't need this guy over here openly praising an organization
[01:49:20] Which this government has prescribed and which is a terrorist organization with at a time when we do have a rising problem
[01:49:27] And an appalling problem with anti-semitic violence in this country ironically enough the last time I was at Oxford Union
[01:49:32] I delivered a speech extensively on anti-semitism being the canary in the coal mine of fascism and how we must always oppose it
[01:49:38] Since then my opinion has a ship that shifted on this issue. I think it's morally repugnant
[01:49:42] It's odious, and it's wrong. Simply put, it's just the wrong calculations.
[01:49:46] There are some people who will say, oh well, a lot of Jewish people support Israel.
[01:49:50] Why don't you just oppose Jews? Are you too afraid to say it?
[01:49:52] And I always tell them like, this is not the case because Jews are not a monolith.
[01:49:55] No group of individuals are a monolith.
[01:49:57] If Jews were monolithic in their approach to Israel,
[01:49:59] then there wouldn't be a multi-million dollar propaganda initiative
[01:50:02] that specifically targets young American Jews.
[01:50:04] I don't know how it is in the UK, but young American Jews
[01:50:06] and indoctrinate them into Zionism early on,
[01:50:09] which has been failing spectacularly,
[01:50:11] which is part of the reason why a lot of people attack me,
[01:50:13] I think, because I have a lot of anti-Zionist Jews
[01:50:16] in my community and I'm proud to stand by them.
[01:50:18] And the point that I want to make here is this.
[01:50:24] You might disagree with my assessment on,
[01:50:26] or the evolution of Hamas's tactics, for example,
[01:50:29] switching from military targets exclusively
[01:50:31] to civilian targets, I oppose that.
[01:50:32] I think killing civilians under any circumstances is wrong,
[01:50:34] whether it's Israelis or Hamas don't get it.
[01:50:35] The reason why I say Israel's a thousand times
[01:50:37] worse than Hamas.
[01:50:38] Because we're really all thousands of times more-
[01:50:39] No, I think the principle is the same.
[01:50:40] I think the principle is the same. I don't think I'm not utilitarian clearly in the same way that you are Hassan.
[01:50:43] I don't think that you disagree that Israel has killed a thousand times more civilians than Hamas.
[01:50:47] I don't know what the statistics are, but I would accept completely that Israel has killed lots of civilians,
[01:50:50] and it's absolutely heinous. But unlike you, unlike you, I would draw a moral equivalence between those acts,
[01:50:55] but you seem to be willing to more because you're attached to a sort of anti-colonial ideology.
[01:50:59] You are willing to basically dismiss one and favor the other, and I'm not. That's the difference between us.
[01:51:04] I don't think you're not favoring either party. I think that there is a level of...
[01:51:09] I think murder and civilian is wrong. Full stop. I don't see it as an anti-colonial struggle.
[01:51:12] I think it's wrong. Full stop. I don't think it gets them anywhere.
[01:51:14] There's a level of understandable sympathy demonstrated by people in Western society,
[01:51:18] especially towards a country that has been a cooperative ally for a very long time.
[01:51:22] I totally understand that. It's a part of, it's a byproduct of our social conditioning.
[01:51:26] We look to a country, and you've mentioned it over and over again. You keep saying,
[01:51:28] well, it's a democratic process, a democratic process. There is a democracy in Israel,
[01:51:32] and I keep telling you that it's an apartheid system, so their democratic process is irrelevant.
[01:51:36] There are literally Arab-Israeli parties in the Knesset. You didn't get that in apartheid South Africa.
[01:51:41] I know, and I rocked you off. No, there's varying degrees. There's varying degrees of brutality
[01:51:46] here that we're talking about. You're referencing only Israel proper, and I guess the extension now
[01:51:51] with the settlement project as well, but Israel isn't just Tel Aviv and the Israel that we point
[01:51:58] to. Israel is a singular sovereign occupant state that dominates the lives of the almost 10 million
[01:52:05] Palestinians are that that live there what we don't in the West Bank and in
[01:52:09] Gaza Gaza is a hermetically sealed opener prison just on bomb that is
[01:52:11] being genocide and ethnically cleansed that cleansed and and the West Bank has
[01:52:15] been an occupied state illegally occupied mind you militarily where the
[01:52:19] citizens don't have any rights whatsoever they have separate roads separate
[01:52:23] license plates they constantly have to go through this bureaucratic nightmare the
[01:52:26] security tyranny that they've opposed that they've created for the Palestinians
[01:52:29] in their hands that's not a sex act I know I know what your message reason
[01:52:33] Secretary to Barnum and Mood. Do you want to be let back into Britain?
[01:52:35] Yes, I do. I think it's terrifying that the Labour government is...
[01:52:46] His Western mind is stuck at a reformist view. He got overwhelmed and was like,
[01:52:52] all right, let's move on. This is why I also said to the Chatters,
[01:52:58] you didn't fucking defend yourself. Are you kidding me? Does it seem like I was fucking
[01:53:02] frazzled in any way, shape, or form? No. I went in there stood ten toes down on my principles
[01:53:09] and accurately reflected on historical events that unfolded leading up to October 7 and how they
[01:53:15] are absolutely relevant, showcased in my opinion the moral inconsistency between arguments that
[01:53:26] focus on the optics and the civility of the conversation, the conversations that actually
[01:53:31] center around the feelings of people who want to defend the apartheid state.
[01:53:36] It's ridiculous. Miles Dyer says, I usually respect your interviewing skills, Lewis.
[01:53:40] You listen well, ask for questions and avoid cheap points scoring, but this one frustrated
[01:53:43] me. Hasan deserves scrutiny, but too often his points seem mischaracterized rather than
[01:53:47] properly engage with.
[01:54:00] And you still won the audience over even with the meeting and your mic and cutting of your
[01:54:03] responses kill it.
[01:54:04] Yeah, you killed a king yet 100.
[01:54:06] Of course, dude.
[01:54:09] Here's the thing.
[01:54:12] If you don't allow, if you, if every moment that you are allowed to speak, you actually
[01:54:16] fucking end up getting your points across, they can't censor everything, right?
[01:54:22] I also demonstrated patience, I didn't fucking get like angry or anything, I didn't yell,
[01:54:28] I didn't lose my cool, I was cool, calm and collected and I stuck to the facts and obviously
[01:54:34] the facts do not favor the Israeli side in any way, shape or form in this, which is precisely
[01:54:42] the reason why I think the takeaway from the people that watched the debate, watched the
[01:54:47] conversation was, yeah, this is totally ridiculous.
[01:54:50] You guys are being crazy, is creating this environment that instead of leaning in to
[01:54:58] the democratic wishes of the majority that look at what Israel has done and look at the
[01:55:02] cooperation of the British government with Israel in horror, understandable horror, and
[01:55:07] demanded end to it, the British government has very clearly moved in the opposite direction
[01:55:11] of repression instead of addressing these needs, the government is instead telling people
[01:55:15] that they can't actually protest against this.
[01:55:17] And there's been silly prescriptions like Palestine Action.
[01:55:19] I think you and I would probably agree that that was a little bit silly to prescribe Palestine
[01:55:23] Action as a terrorist organization, right?
[01:55:24] And then also the prosecution of the arrest of pensioners and, you know, the elderly for
[01:55:29] holding up a placard that says Palestine Action.
[01:55:31] Maybe I'm too American for this, but I find that to be, you know, ridiculous, right?
[01:55:34] Do you think that actually, inversely, the British government, certainly to a potential,
[01:55:38] I mean, you've got millions and millions of people who watch and listen to you.
[01:55:41] Do you think that they've magnified your message?
[01:55:43] Oh, absolutely.
[01:55:44] I think it's been a spectacular failure for them because if I came into the country and
[01:55:48] did myself by Southwest thing and the Oxford Union speech and whatnot, I'm sure it would
[01:55:53] have gone as every other time I've been to the UK.
[01:55:57] People are excited to see me there.
[01:55:58] It's fine.
[01:55:59] I have a lot of fans in the UK as well.
[01:56:01] But now there is this major media crisis, this moment where people are looking at what
[01:56:08] government is doing and are worried about the implications of it, which I think is a healthy
[01:56:13] amount of friction.
[01:56:14] I mean, this is a part of the complex process of democracy, right?
[01:56:19] As long as we can still fight for it, as long as we can still maintain it, hopefully.
[01:56:23] And I do want that to take place.
[01:56:25] And just finally, just briefly, on American politics, which we haven't had much time to
[01:56:28] discuss.
[01:56:29] Obviously, giving up towards the midterms, Trump is doing what Trump does.
[01:56:32] He seems, I mean, he said the other day that he doesn't really care about any effect that
[01:56:36] around war's had on American consumer prices or he's not bothered, he seems to be in a
[01:56:39] slightly unusual place where he's decided that he's not much bothered about public
[01:56:41] opinion at this point. But what's your assessment as a very leading sort of figure on the left
[01:56:45] in American politics about where the Democratic Party is now and the discussion, the internal
[01:56:50] discussion about where the Democratic Party should position itself? What do you think
[01:56:53] the Dems are at?
[01:56:54] There's a divergence between the Democratic Party as a party and the base of support.
[01:56:59] The base of support, the voters, lifelong Democrats and even independents as a matter
[01:57:02] effective completely moved further and further to the left in this process where they want
[01:57:07] fighters.
[01:57:08] They want real fighters that will try to stop the Trump administration no matter what it
[01:57:11] takes, including sometimes directly physically protesting, right?
[01:57:15] Certain initiatives like demanding that Hakeem Jeffries come out and participate in the
[01:57:18] active physical protest, even if it's symbolic.
[01:57:21] Whereas the party itself has taken this interesting stance, this interesting approach where instead
[01:57:27] of opposing the administration as aggressively as they could, they've decided to wait it
[01:57:32] Now, this is spelled out by James Carville.
[01:57:34] Yeah, he'll let me talk now because I'm shitting on how ogreish Americans are, exactly.
[01:57:40] Notice how there is no pushback here?
[01:57:42] Yeah, he's not cutting me off and being like, well, how could you say that?
[01:57:46] How could you say that?
[01:57:47] Don't you think the Democrats are doing a great job?
[01:57:50] No, of course not.
[01:57:51] No interruptions now.
[01:57:53] Well, he does hit me at the end with the homofascism line, too.
[01:57:58] Carville early on where they said James Carville showed up, came out as a Democratic consultant,
[01:58:01] with the Clintons. And he said, show your belly, show your belly. It doesn't matter because the
[01:58:06] people will recognize how devastating the Trump administration is. There's this attitude where
[01:58:11] I think some centrist Democrats want to punish the public so that they come to terms with how
[01:58:17] devastating the Trump administration is. And then there's no other option other than
[01:58:22] harm reduction voting, which clearly demonstrably failed as a theory in the last election cycle.
[01:58:27] I find that to be morally repugnant, and I find that to be far too conciliatory to the needs of
[01:58:32] the growing fascist movement, because I see the danger of, of mega fascism. I'm not alone in this
[01:58:38] either. There's a lot of people. I just have to ask you this. I did notice this week when I'm looking
[01:58:42] at some of the things that you've been talking about recently. I know that one of your favorite
[01:58:45] candidates for Nancy Pelosi's congressional seat, she's obviously the former speaker. She's standing
[01:58:48] down after, you know, many years since she was elected in 1986, I think. And the Dems, obviously,
[01:58:52] the plum seat in San Francisco in California, where you are now. And I think that the person
[01:58:56] that you were supporting failed to progress the other day against your other candidates.
[01:59:00] Yeah, and I think you saw that for AOC. And you said it's just effing rich liberals who
[01:59:04] just want homo-fascism in this country. That's it. They want gay fascism. They want gay techno
[01:59:09] fascism. What did you mean by that? What's gay techno fascism?
[01:59:11] It wasn't just about San Francisco, though, and it wasn't about Shroy Kotz race in general.
[01:59:14] I think it was more so about some of the California liberals that, unlike the rest of the country,
[01:59:20] are not as... We're not as activated, rather, as some of these other places where people
[01:59:26] People are demanding more.
[01:59:27] What's gay?
[01:59:28] He's got no fascism.
[01:59:29] What I'm referencing, of course, is the comfort that they have with what level of progressive
[01:59:34] politics that they're open to.
[01:59:36] It's not a secret that Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, numerous Silicon Valley tech CEOs are bringing
[01:59:41] about this new techno feudalist dystopia that we're currently living under, and they themselves
[01:59:47] are open-minded or rather libertarian when it comes to certain qualities, like certain
[01:59:51] civil liberties, obviously, LGBTQ liberties, and maybe abortion protections.
[01:59:55] But everything else outside of that, whether it be immigrants' rights or anti-black racism,
[02:00:00] Islamophobia, they will throw that by the wayside.
[02:00:02] These are not issues that they necessarily care about.
[02:00:05] And what I'm referencing there is a pink-washed version of the type of fascism that some wealthy
[02:00:11] liberals are comfortable with.
[02:00:13] Although, again, we know what would have happened to Gaze on the fascist regime, don't we?
[02:00:16] Yes, no.
[02:00:17] I think it's very dangerous.
[02:00:18] I think, well, it's the same principle behind Jewish cooperators with the Trump administration
[02:00:22] as well.
[02:00:24] This is a real warning for every marginalized group that thinks that tokens don't get spent
[02:00:30] at the end of the day.
[02:00:31] These guys are inevitably going to oppose all of these groups when there's a better
[02:00:35] opportune time.
[02:00:37] So I think we have to fight back with intersectionality and fight back fast and fight back hard.
[02:00:42] Is it easy to have intersectionality when you're warning about homofascism?
[02:00:45] Yes, of course.
[02:00:46] Doesn't sound very intersectional.
[02:00:47] Well, if you think that my warning is about liberal cooperation with a fascist movement
[02:00:53] by the likes of Peter Thiel and Sam Altman is actually homophobic. I guess we can have
[02:00:56] a conversation around that. I don't think so and neither does my audience. My heart
[02:00:59] might be to be square.
[02:01:00] When do we think the ban will be lifted? If ever. When can we actually expect to see
[02:01:03] you in the UK?
[02:01:04] After this conversation? Probably not anytime soon.
[02:01:07] I think this will help you.
[02:01:09] We'll see. I mean, I'm probably going to work with some immigration attorneys to try to
[02:01:14] identify exactly what's the place because at the end of the day, there are plenty of
[02:01:18] people who oppose my worldview, think I'm crazy, whatever, right? But I think what we
[02:01:22] We can all unite under is one, the principle of defending free expression.
[02:01:27] As long as it doesn't cross certain boundaries that actually do reach into like a fomenting
[02:01:32] violence and like deliberately trying to cause a riot, like inciting a riot or things of
[02:01:37] that nature.
[02:01:38] Like I'm obviously gonna be respectful of the countries that I visit and the opinions
[02:01:43] that I have on that.
[02:01:45] And it's not something that I am interested in doing anyway, inciting a riot is ridiculous.
[02:01:49] But the other thing is that this process of revocation of visas is actually very opaque.
[02:01:56] And I think that's somewhat of a problem, that the Home Secretary can just like issue
[02:02:00] these kinds of travel bans without ever really even revealing why they did so.
[02:02:05] Without ever actually saying, here are the reasons why we oppose this person coming into
[02:02:08] the country.
[02:02:09] And I think that's been one of the most confusing elements of this entire ordeal.
[02:02:13] I was actually shocked because, you know, I mean, I was first and foremost shocked because I think
[02:02:18] that, perhaps falsely, I assume that the British government has always maintained this this attitude
[02:02:23] that they would defend free expression and freedom of speech, you know, unconditionally. But then
[02:02:28] also beyond that, I was shocked at how not transparent this process was. Hasn't been
[02:02:31] absolutely a pleasure to speak to you and who knows, maybe we'll see you in other than soon.
[02:02:35] Thanks so much. All right. Thank you for having me.
[02:02:36] Yeah, that's that was the LBC conversation. I think all things considered given given how
[02:02:55] contentious it turned out to be. I think it was still a pretty productive conversation where I
[02:03:00] I was able to get across some of my major points and I'm, I'm happy that I was able
[02:03:07] to do that regardless. And I think that the, the sensorious nature of the interview, down
[02:03:14] to the cuts or down to like lowering my volume, all this stuff, I think that in and of itself,
[02:03:20] ironically enough, not dissimilar to the travel ban ends up showcasing that, that the arguments
[02:03:27] are so sound that they can't oppose them. So they choose to like, you know, limit it
[02:03:32] to the best of their ability. Uh, limit its reach to the best of their ability. And I
[02:03:36] think it does backfire in that situation. Yeah. Release the full interview. These cuts
[02:03:39] are brutal. The fact that this is still a debate is stows me. People often talk about
[02:03:42] the Holocaust. Like it just happened one day and there was a definitive start. One day
[02:03:46] there was no Holocaust. The next day there was one. There's always a ramping up patch.
[02:03:49] Fascism is a process. Hasan, there's a genocide. Your words hurt my feelings. Tom policing
[02:03:53] someone criticized Israel is very tiresome. I lost hope after I listened to the half of the
[02:03:59] podcast, but the comment section gave me hope. Louis, question mark, Hassan, well, I think, no, you're wrong.
[02:04:15] No, it's one of those things.
[02:04:19] It's one of those things where like, we are in a very different media environment now.
[02:04:23] Also, Lewis's bosses might have appreciated the strong opposition he put forth, but the
[02:04:29] majorities that will look at this interview that are already coming in with the idea that
[02:04:35] like Israel is indefensible, because it is, are going to, like their takeaway is going
[02:04:40] to be very different, right?
[02:04:41] Their takeaway is going to be this.
[02:04:44] People saying, what are you doing?
[02:04:46] What the fuck are you doing?
[02:04:47] You're, like we can see that you're trying to offer this like wishy-washy defense of
[02:04:55] Israel by trying to claim that the opposition to Israel is actually coming from an anti-Semitic
[02:05:02] perspective, or it could be misconstrued as anti-Semitic, and we should be more careful
[02:05:06] with our language.
[02:05:08] Did you notice that when they, yeah, do you notice how when Lewis speaks over us on the
[02:05:17] lower sound volume. Interesting. HP being too generous towards Lewis Goodall. I don't believe
[02:05:21] that Lewis Goodall values Palestinian lives as much as he values Israeli lives. Maybe the Israeli
[02:05:25] government should stop behaving like Nazis. How unbelievably hostile and dishonest Lewis was here.
[02:05:31] That's the thing. Like, if you're going to have me on your broadcast, right? If you're going to have
[02:05:36] someone like myself on your broadcast, if you do this kind of thing, your otherwise liberal audience
[02:05:41] is going to recognize that as being unfair and inherently hostile, unnecessarily hostile.
[02:05:48] This is precisely the reason why when like the Podjons have me on, right, they will offer
[02:05:54] pushback to certain things, but they will also give me space to explain my position.
[02:05:59] Now of course, when you do that, obviously your audience is probably going to understand
[02:06:04] exactly where I'm coming from and say, well, this guy makes a lot of sense.
[02:06:08] So no matter what you do, if you're going to have me on your show, if you're going to
[02:06:12] have me on your broadcast, then this is going to happen.
[02:06:18] Either it's going to be an unbelievably hostile and unbelievably contentious interview where
[02:06:29] you are going to look bad because the audience overwhelmingly obviously agrees with not defending
[02:06:34] is real or you're just going to have to take the L in that situation and allow your audience
[02:06:41] to listen fully and understand and comprehend fully what I'm saying and most likely agree with me
[02:06:47] because the audience agrees with me already. That's why they want to ban you because they
[02:06:53] lose either way, and I think they realized that. Yeah.
[02:07:03] Oh my god. Okay, so while we were having this conversation, while we were having
[02:07:07] this back and forth, the IRGC was working.
[02:07:13] Sirens have stopped for now, following several missiles. There was an initial
[02:07:17] wave, at least four Iranian missiles have launched towards the north, another wave
[02:07:20] of missiles launching now. Iran has been peppering. Sirens from Lake Tiberias to Haifa
[02:07:27] for the arrival of Iranian missiles. They're striking northern Israel. Following the initial
[02:07:33] wave, sirens rang nonstop for 10 minutes for the arrival of multiple additional launches. Now
[02:07:37] there's an early warning for more missiles. Sirens have stopped for now. This is from 1247,
[02:07:42] 13 minutes ago, or almost 20 minutes ago, IRGC, tonight's operation was merely a warning
[02:07:51] announcement, and if aggressions are repeated, the responsibility will be broader and will
[02:07:54] include all American Zionist targets in the region.
[02:07:57] Khan says, Israeli officials, we will respond to the launches from Iran.
[02:08:01] Could translation the Iranian response of the bombing of Beirut so far has exceeded the
[02:08:04] estimates of the security system in the occupation that Iran would respond in a limited manner?
[02:08:09] Yes.
[02:08:10] So basically, what's what's happening here is, wait, what the fuck?
[02:08:14] Why is this video not?
[02:08:20] Oop.
[02:08:22] That's impact on anyway, the Iranian military, the destroyed Iranian
[02:08:29] Iranian military is seemingly not so destroyed.
[02:08:33] So this was.
[02:08:35] This was my my question.
[02:08:37] This was something that I talked to Trita about as well, like why Iran was reluctant to strike
[02:08:43] Israel if it wanted to re-establish military deterrence. Israeli National Security Minister
[02:08:50] Itamar Bengi Vier says Tehran must burn tonight. There's going to be a lot of posturing from
[02:08:55] the Israeli side here. Iran is out in the streets tonight, cheering as they see missiles launched
[02:08:59] overhead towards Israel. Israeli Army radio says at least four missiles were launched
[02:09:02] by Iran's military towards northern Israel just minutes ago. I mean, this is a much more limited
[02:09:07] strike, but the very fact that, regardless of the limitations of the strike in comparison to
[02:09:15] other Operation True Promise-style attacks, is the fact that they hit Israel. So that's
[02:09:24] somewhat of an escalation in comparison to the strategic restraint that Iran has shown
[02:09:32] since the beginning of the ceasefire, right, a couple weeks ago. So they hit three waves,
[02:09:37] 10 missiles, give or take. But the fact that they hit Israel, the fact that they
[02:09:43] chose to strike Israel implies that they are escalating as a matter of developing military
[02:09:51] deterrence, okay? This was expected. And I was actually a little bit confused as to why Iran
[02:09:58] had not done so, so far in a way to reestablish that military deterrence.
[02:10:05] And I was actually very interested in hearing what Donald Trump would say.
[02:10:09] And it turns out Amit Sehgal and Trey Yings are reporting, spoke with President Trump,
[02:10:14] we'll have more on Fox News in a few minutes.
[02:10:16] What I would suggest to Iran, you've shot your missiles, that's enough.
[02:10:19] Get back to the table and make a deal.
[02:10:21] It's over.
[02:10:22] It's fucking over.
[02:10:24] Oh, my God.
[02:10:27] fact that Iran is not only just striking Bahrain Kuwait, maybe the UAE, but now Israel and
[02:10:34] Trump is still like, oops, ceasefire is still here. Guys, chill out.
[02:10:39] Yeah, tonight's missile launch has appeared largely performative on, as all sides test
[02:10:45] each other's red lines. Medium term trajectory is likely a nuclear armed Iran, which may
[02:10:50] counter and to leave bring stability to the region.
[02:10:53] Yeah, Matthew Petty says, I don't think Israel will let this stay performative.
[02:10:59] And Muhammad Ali Shabani says, depends on whether Trump will allow BB to drag him back
[02:11:04] into full scale war, next 24 hours will be instructive.
[02:11:07] I agree.
[02:11:08] I do think that it's, if, if, if, if, if Trump says it's an Israel dial up the fuck back,
[02:11:17] we have to secure this goddamn ceasefire, that's a huge deal.
[02:11:22] That means that there is complete recognition.
[02:11:26] That means there is complete recognition on the American side that this is over.
[02:11:31] They are basically admitting that this is over, that Iran has won, and that they are
[02:11:35] willing to restrain Israel.
[02:11:36] I don't know what Israel will do though, because Israel is a rabid dog.
[02:11:41] And I don't think Israel is going to take this lightly, albeit this is symbolic or not.
[02:11:47] I don't think Israel is going to turn around and be like, well, this is a symbolic attack
[02:11:50] on Israeli soil. They famously have zero chill on stuff like this because it's an ethno-religious
[02:11:59] supremacist society. And from their estimation, it's not dissimilar to the moral wound or the
[02:12:08] major wound that they took, not as a loss of life on October 7 necessarily, but the fact that this
[02:12:14] like inferior group of people from their calculations was able to conduct such a devastating military
[02:12:21] operation on Israeli soil.
[02:12:23] It's an insult, right?
[02:12:25] How dare the Iranians strike us?
[02:12:28] We are superior to them.
[02:12:30] Is the mentality by the likes of Itamar-Bengibir and also Israeli society broadly.
[02:12:37] This is precisely the reason why I found it unique and interesting that Iran had not
[02:12:45] engaged in this kind of action already.
[02:12:48] President Trump tells me I'm calling Netanyahu right now and telling him not to attack Iran
[02:12:51] in response.
[02:12:53] Oh boy.
[02:12:56] I suspect Israel will say fuck off to Donald Trump here.
[02:13:01] will draw a major wedge. Direct impact and no interception on this one by the way, which
[02:13:09] which is again interesting.
[02:13:39] Anyway, escalation trap can't stop escalating. Ironically, it has a lot of similarities to
[02:13:50] how mal-criticized Nazism is incapable of doing anything, but eventually, structurally,
[02:13:54] yes, because Israel is a Nazi country. And yes, we are in the NCEG stage for Israel.
[02:14:01] It's not the final solution for Israel. It might reach that point as well with respect
[02:14:07] what they want to do to the Palestinian population when they get unbelievably desperate. But yes,
[02:14:13] Israel is engaging in a multi-front war of expansion and conquest right now.
[02:14:20] And the problem for them is that there is a military force capable of resisting that.
[02:14:26] There is a military force that is capable of creating military deterrence against that.
[02:14:33] So Israel might be preparing to fucking strike with a forceful or powerful response, but this will only restart the war
[02:14:41] Donald Trump is like I'm bored. Let's get this ceasefire going all of a sudden. He's gonna not be so bored, I guess
[02:14:50] Yeah, very different messages coming from Trump then we're hearing from the Israeli spoke with President Trump will have more of Fox's in a few minutes
[02:14:58] Okay, we'll see. We'll see how we'll see if Donald Trump can reign in its attack dog
[02:15:06] Afternoon Iran has launched at least four waves of missiles at Israel in response to those IDF strikes
[02:15:12] Against the Lebanese capital of Beirut earlier today. I just got off the phone with President Trump
[02:15:18] Who is following the developing situation across the region? He told me what I would suggest to Iran
[02:15:24] You've shot your missiles, that's enough, get back to the table and make a deal.
[02:15:30] The president, once again, calling for a negotiated settlement.
[02:15:34] He also spoke about the ongoing negotiations with Iran, saying we are very close.
[02:15:38] I would say an agreement would be signed on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday of this coming
[02:15:43] week, and now this takes place.
[02:15:45] And so the president will get briefed on what is happening right now, this ongoing Iranian
[02:15:49] ballistic missile attack against Israel.
[02:15:52] But I asked him about those initial IDF strikes that took place earlier today.
[02:15:56] He told me they were not coordinated with the United States, and I asked him for a reaction
[02:16:01] to the Israeli strikes against Hezbollah in Beirut.
[02:16:04] And President Trump said, I'm not happy about it.
[02:16:06] Now more broadly, he said that the ongoing Iranian missile fire toward Israel at this
[02:16:10] moment certainly is not going to help the negotiations.
[02:16:14] But again, he is calling on the Iranians to stop firing these missiles and get back to
[02:16:18] the negotiating table to ultimately reach a settlement.
[02:16:21] the president talked about the power of the u.s. military
[02:16:24] and also the power of the ongoing u.s. naval blockade of iranian ports
[02:16:29] this blockade john is currently crippling the iranian economy they're
[02:16:33] losing
[02:16:33] hundreds of
[02:16:34] yeah yeah uh... come on trade
[02:16:37] trades been so bad
[02:16:39] like he was he was always i mean obviously the fox news like foreign
[02:16:43] correspondent right and he's you know it's tell of the trade
[02:16:46] but it is crazy to me
[02:16:50] at least would be like sincere at times to be like, oh, what israel is doing to the fucking palestinian journalists is like morally repugnant
[02:16:58] Since the operation epstein theory began
[02:17:03] He has been such a fucking regime propagandist
[02:17:08] It is actually insane because when you do this and you are clearly in the wrong
[02:17:15] Right
[02:17:16] You keep undermining your credibility. Not that it matters to the Fox News audience because just
[02:17:21] like the drama slop tubers, the right-wing reactionaries on the internet, they're not
[02:17:25] there to learn what the truth is. They're there to have their biases be confirmed and reconfirmed
[02:17:30] over and over and over again. But it is very frustrating that this guy keeps consistently
[02:17:46] showing himself to be in the wrong with his analysis, with his statements, because he's
[02:17:52] just doing propaganda for Trump and openly doing it, where he's like, oh, Iran, Trump
[02:17:56] and I had a conversation and he's right, Iran's military capabilities have been deteriorated.
[02:18:00] Okay, now you're in fucking Tel Aviv and Iran is bombing Israel again.
[02:18:04] So clearly their military capabilities have not been deteriorated.
[02:18:07] What do you have to say to that?
[02:18:08] I know his ass knows the truth.
[02:18:10] He's just being disingenuous.
[02:18:12] It's embarrassing, okay?
[02:18:14] Have some fucking decency.
[02:18:15] some goddamn backbone tray god damn Tel Aviv tray over here he got that one
[02:18:20] promotion and he basically lost all of his capabilities of critical thought
[02:18:24] Trump says I hope that Israel will not attack in response of men Yahoo orders
[02:18:28] an attack it will continue with a counterattack we are close with Iran to your
[02:18:32] deal to end the war and do not want to blow up the deal each side had their own
[02:18:36] fun tonight I'm gonna call Netanyahu and say no do not attack oh it's fucking
[02:18:40] And he's not going to be able to reign it in, dude, come on.
[02:18:45] Come on, dude, it's Jover.
[02:18:57] and was done deliberately to drive away between U.S. and Israel to force
[02:19:10] America's hand in reigning Israel in.
[02:19:15] Yeah. I said, let's see if Trump can, uh, let's see if Trump can reign in its a rabid
[02:19:26] attack dog. It's clear that this limited strike is still in escalation in terms of
[02:19:30] establishing military returns against Israel and was done deliberately to drive a wedge
[02:19:34] between us and Israel to force America's hand in reigning Israel in IDF bought accounts,
[02:19:39] on Trump. Nice. Nice. Yeah, unit 8200 deployed. That's very funny. They got one speed, man.
[02:19:54] What are you a Muslim? That's it. That's literally the only, the only meta that the
[02:20:01] Zionist mind has is to just go, what are you a fucking Muslim, dude? What are you a fucking
[02:20:08] Muslim? God, you're being real Muslim right now with your actions. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Arya
[02:20:25] says, according to a source of mine, which allowed publication, Iran launched missiles
[02:20:27] from multiple different missile sites to send a message that Iran's missile complexes are
[02:20:31] active and ready. Here's what Ben Givir had to say, tonight Tehran must burn.
[02:20:49] According to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, via the FAR's news agency, tonight's
[02:20:53] operation was merely a warning announcement, and if aggressions are repeated, the responses
[02:20:57] will be broader and will include
[02:20:59] all american scientists are just in the region
[02:21:02] the
[02:21:03] uh... i'd use the sites their reason for tonight's political attack against
[02:21:06] northern israel is continued israelis rights against lebanon
[02:21:27] you
[02:21:57] you
[02:22:27] you
[02:22:57] you
[02:23:27] you
[02:23:57] Obama Biden has done something this faceless. I mean low key. I think it's because it's Israel
[02:24:26] that they wouldn't do this. I'll be honest, because they were critical of Obama because
[02:24:32] he was too critical of Israel, not because Obama had enforced American superiority over
[02:24:37] Israel or American dominance over Israel. They were critical of Obama for being too critical
[02:24:41] of Israel. And they certainly were, at times, critical of Joe Biden for, this is laughable,
[02:24:47] being too critical of Israel again. So I think Fox News also has that Israel first priority
[02:24:54] in its coverage and therefore that's the reason why they're not gonna fucking shit on
[02:25:01] They're just not gonna shit on any president for abiding by Israel's wishes
[02:25:12] Trump spoke to con news. Oh my god, what is he doing?
[02:25:16] Trump the con news. I think Israel has responded enough. There doesn't need to be any more
[02:25:20] Are we going to achieve 3000 after 3000 years of peace?
[02:25:23] President Trump says he's not happy about Israel's earlier strikes on Beirut, Lebanon,
[02:25:26] and that the attacks were not coordinated with the US per Fox, and as Trump tells Iran,
[02:25:29] you've shot your missiles, that's enough, get back to the table and make a deal.
[02:25:40] Can I say something?
[02:25:42] I don't think Trump is going to Madison Square Garden tomorrow night.
[02:25:49] I don't think he's going to have time and if he did, that would be insane.
[02:25:57] Like I think that would be exceptional.
[02:26:01] I mean, what a big fuck you to everybody involved.
[02:26:03] He's like, nope, I don't care.
[02:26:04] I got to see my nicks.
[02:26:07] Come on.
[02:26:08] 1999 is the last time they made it to the finals.
[02:26:11] This is a huge deal.
[02:26:12] Jelem Bronson, six foot two, he's such a strong guard.
[02:26:18] He doesn't worry about putting his body on the line
[02:26:21] and therefore I have to see him in person.
[02:26:28] Yeah, he's gonna be like,
[02:26:30] my mayor Muslim, my big old Jewish,
[02:26:35] and maybe my president too.
[02:26:38] My Christian DR, Nick's in four.
[02:26:42] up video statements are back as well. It's back. It's back dude. The war, the war seemingly
[02:27:04] is a bag on the menu, it seems, you know? Anyway, Trump also more quotes from the Barak
[02:27:14] Revead Barak unit 8200 Revead says, Trump stress, I'm going to call BB right now and
[02:27:22] tell him not to retaliate. Each of them had their turn. They had their fun. Yeah. Let's
[02:27:29] Let's get to, what is this? Okay, okay, okay.
[02:27:36] Austin Technicals says, Israel's reportedly seeking permission from the U.S. to bomb Iranian
[02:27:39] energy facilities. Oh my God, they're so insane.
[02:27:44] IRGC, despite previous warnings from the Islamic World, we're on the child killing Zionist
[02:27:49] regime, crossing all red lines and increasing attacks. And Southern Lebanon has targeted
[02:27:53] the Dahiya area of Beirut. We had previously warned that if crimes in Dahiya Beirut expanded,
[02:27:58] would strike targets in the occupied territories. His army must stop his attacks on southern
[02:28:02] Lebanon and Dahiya. And if it expands its attacks in that area or response to Iran's
[02:28:07] actions, it will face more crushing and regretful blows and devastating attacks against the
[02:28:10] regime and its supporters.
[02:28:13] Yeah, this is the, this is the, our boy is back. Yeah, the videos are back. Uh, he says
[02:28:28] in the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful, the Zionist aggression regime
[02:28:32] by repeatedly violating the ceasefire has been increasing its evils against the oppressed people
[02:28:35] of Lebanon day by day with the green light of support of the criminal America and the silence
[02:28:39] of the international community and has been committing war crimes using banned weapons,
[02:28:42] including phosphorus bombs since Friday. Despite the previous warnings of the Islamic
[02:28:46] Republic of Iran, its child-killing Zionist regime has crossed all red lines and intensified attacks
[02:28:52] in southern Lebanon, targeted the Beirut suburbs. We had previously decided that if the crime in
[02:28:57] Beirut suburbs expands, we will bombard targets in occupied territories, design as army must stop,
[02:29:01] its attacks on southern Lebanon and the suburbs, and if it expands its attacks on the region,
[02:29:07] or responds to Iran's actions, it will face more crushing and regrettable blows,
[02:29:10] and the destructive attacks will begin against the regime and its supporters,
[02:29:14] and there is no victory except from Allah, the Almighty, the Wise.
[02:29:19] What the fuck far as news is released a video the IRGC missiles oh shit I fucking I mean
[02:29:30] I guess we don't really need to hear whatever else trading says to say this is bullshit
[02:29:34] So whatever far as news to release a video the IRGC missiles launched towards Israel tonight with one missile having drawn
[02:29:40] Having a drawing of a soldier taking down ball accompanied by a message saying Iran is on the path of Jesus and Moses
[02:29:46] And at war with the corrupt people of Epstein Island
[02:29:59] Anyway, let's get to Danny Dennis Satronowitz's analysis here again Atlantic Council's very own
[02:30:07] The key question is now how willing President Trump will be the pressure Prime Minister Benjamin and Yahoo to scale back military
[02:30:13] operation before events spiral beyond anyone's control. This is not because Trump has attractive
[02:30:16] options that is disposal, quite the contrary. The timing could hardly be worse. Yeah, you hit
[02:30:22] when you have maximum leverage. You engage in a work stoppage when you have the most amount
[02:30:28] of leverage, right? And this is the same principle that Iran is utilizing.
[02:30:36] An event the administration would prefer not to be, not to be overshadowed by a major regional
[02:30:40] conflict because the FIFA Club World Cup is taking place in America. At the same time,
[02:30:45] global oil markets remain vulnerable to disruption, and any significant escalation involving Iran
[02:30:49] could trigger renewed concerns about energy supplies, shipping routes, and price volatility.
[02:30:54] Against this backdrop, Washington faced an increasingly difficult balancing act, maintaining
[02:30:57] pressure on Iran and supporting Israel while preventing a broader regional confrontation
[02:31:01] that could carry substantial geopolitical and economic costs. The challenge is that
[02:31:05] the longer the current trajectory continues, the harder it becomes to control the pace
[02:31:09] and scope of escalation
[02:31:18] trump shuts down new york city there will be no game three watch parties
[02:31:22] outside msg
[02:31:23] due to the trump visit the plaza closure was coordinated with secret
[02:31:26] service and i think confirmed they're working established alternative watch
[02:31:28] party locations for fans
[02:31:30] new york city was in rocking after nicks
[02:31:32] game uh... to win on the road thousand new york's accelerations of the streets
[02:31:37] I expect game three to be even crazier. Oh my God. I think, I think Donald Trump wants
[02:31:45] New York to be a permanent blue enclave that it already is like, but Donald Trump is solidifying
[02:31:54] that New York will never turn red. They will, there will never be more than like maybe maximum
[02:31:59] 100,000 red voters in the state of New York and in the city of New York in general.
[02:32:11] I think it's really funny though because
[02:32:16] he might not even, he might not even end up attending, but these security protocols will
[02:32:24] still be implemented. The White House will confirm that this is not about the President.
[02:32:31] Oh, okay. You are laughing. Mr. Finger Painter is crying because of this and you're laughing.
[02:32:53] Scott Lobito, my goat. Regarding Nick's watch party outside of MSG. Yeah, they revoked the
[02:33:02] permit for the watch party outside of MSG. That's crazy. James Dolan invited his friend
[02:33:09] Donald from the watch game three. In order to do that, they have to ban the organic historically
[02:33:13] joyous parties happening outside MSG for fans who can't afford to be inside modern sports
[02:33:18] in a nutshell bro just shut the fuck up and mind your business man with your
[02:33:23] takes whole city is lit you can literally watch the game on any blog
[02:33:27] outside everyone got a TV watching the nicks about to take it you probably from
[02:33:30] Nebraska or something giving your input on New York
[02:33:40] have you ever seen Lobato say New York is nothing without pizza no I haven't
[02:33:48] I don't think Donald Trump understands the enmity that he is developing. Okay
[02:33:58] He's
[02:34:02] The cheapest price for the game you're going to is 8,000 everyday
[02:34:05] Americans can't afford these sporting events Trump know but they can watch it on television is sort of semi-free to watch it on television
[02:34:10] But that's the way life goes
[02:34:12] Wow
[02:34:15] Wow, dude
[02:34:18] incredible stuff yes I know Paul's from New York man I know
[02:34:37] Um,
[02:34:47] um,
[02:34:57] watch it on television. It's sort of semi-free to watch it on television, but that's the way life goes.
[02:35:05] My beautiful, my baby, my goat, my king, my alpha and omega, my everything Steven
[02:35:12] Chung in the background, look at him. Look at him. That's like literally not even a quarter
[02:35:17] of his body, and you can feel his presence. Okay? Oh, God, I love him so much. I love him so much.
[02:35:27] He is so...
[02:35:33] He is so sexual to me.
[02:35:38] Yes, I'll say it. I'm unafraid. It's Pride Month, okay?
[02:35:46] The only man that I've ever felt this level of affection towards physically is Stephen Chon.
[02:35:53] He's not even round. He's angular. That's what's so beautiful about him.
[02:35:57] Like, he's rotund in many respects, but he's also angular as well.
[02:36:03] He is the size of that fish from SpongeBob SquarePants, like he is so perfect.
[02:36:13] He is a perfect shape.
[02:36:14] You cannot, like, many, many men have tried to reach physical perfection.
[02:36:22] Arnold Schwarzenegger, right?
[02:36:25] He's tried so hard.
[02:36:27] He's experimented with medicine, with science, and yet none of them have ever been able to
[02:36:34] achieve such a perfectly angular shape that no other human being can ever achieve, except
[02:36:42] for Stephen Chow.
[02:36:44] We're going to face a real crossroads here, as will the rest of the region, as a result.
[02:36:50] All right, Jeremy Diamond, thank you so much.
[02:36:52] I want to bring in now Julia Bembrook, who is a New Jersey where the president is staying
[02:36:57] And you're by this weekend.
[02:36:58] So Julia, what news is coming out of the White House
[02:37:01] or the President on this matter?
[02:37:06] Yeah, President Donald Trump,
[02:37:07] he is spending his weekend at one of his properties
[02:37:09] here in New Jersey.
[02:37:11] And we have reached out to the White House
[02:37:13] for an official response to what has taken place
[02:37:16] and how they believe that it will affect negotiations
[02:37:20] going forward.
[02:37:21] What we do know as Jeremy outlined there,
[02:37:24] he's done a few brief interviews,
[02:37:25] one with Axios, where he told Barak Ravid
[02:37:28] he was going to have that conversation
[02:37:30] with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
[02:37:32] There was also a conversation with a Fox News reporter
[02:37:35] who was stationed in Tel Aviv,
[02:37:37] who actually saw some of these strikes taking place,
[02:37:40] and said he was asking Trump
[02:37:43] about how this could impact things,
[02:37:44] and said it's certainly not going to help negotiations.
[02:37:48] He went on to say we're very close.
[02:37:50] I would say an agreement would be signed on Monday,
[02:37:54] Tuesday or Wednesday of this coming week, and now this takes place.
[02:37:59] So he was projecting a lot of optimism toward a deal that we have heard repeatedly throughout
[02:38:04] this.
[02:38:05] This is the 100th day of this conflict in Iran.
[02:38:10] And ever since those first joint U.S.-Israel strikes against Iran on February 28th, Trump
[02:38:16] has promised that this conflict was going to ensue very soon.
[02:38:19] He's brought a number of contradictions a couple of days, a couple of weeks.
[02:38:24] Recently he has been pushing back on criticism for how long this conflict is going on, saying
[02:38:30] that these things take time, sometimes even years to resolve.
[02:38:34] No doubt everything we're seeing play out right now has the potential to cause more
[02:38:38] issues going forward.
[02:38:40] All right.
[02:38:41] Julia Benbrook in New Jersey, traveling with the president.
[02:38:44] Thank you so much.
[02:38:45] We'll be right back with more news after this.
[02:38:49] I know you like number. I know you like number. I'm a numbers guy. I looked at the numbers
[02:38:58] and I think Donald Trump is doing the best possible thing here. I know you like number.
[02:39:07] There's nothing offensive about comparing the actual mentality of Israel to those of
[02:39:10] the Nazis. What's offensive is demanding that one country and only it, Israel, be exempt
[02:39:13] from those comparisons because it hurts people's feelings or because it seems bigoted to compare
[02:39:16] and the whole point of the Nuremberg trials was that the precedent set there would have
[02:39:21] meaning, i.e., be something beyond mere victor's justice. If those principles applied to actions
[02:39:25] of all countries of the future, Israel doesn't have some special unique exception from the imperative.
[02:39:30] Numerous statements of top Israel officials from Netanyahu on down have obviously similarities
[02:39:34] to the finding views of Nazism regarding who and who isn't fully human. The chief U.S. prosecutor
[02:39:38] at Nuremberg was Supreme Court of the United States Justice, Justice Robert Jackson, who made this
[02:39:43] vital point in his opening statement about the universal application of
[02:39:46] Nuremberg principles going forward. Despite this, numerous countries, including
[02:39:49] the US, have adopted the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism that bans
[02:39:52] comparisons of Israel denouncing them, even though you're permitted to make that
[02:39:56] comparison about every other country on earth.
[02:40:00] Ah! Stephen Schoen! Colorized!
[02:40:06] Fox News is the only one allowed.
[02:40:18] Everyone is calling Trump and he's picking up the phone.
[02:40:20] It's called the president and he responds to Iran's missile launch on Israel.
[02:40:22] He said he couldn't talk now, but added things are going very well.
[02:40:25] Our brief conversation came after Axios reported he was going to ask Prime Minister BB Nanyahu
[02:40:28] not to strike back.
[02:40:34] i know you like number
[02:40:48] the israeli right is having an aneurysm right now that iran needs to be bombarded in a very big way because they responded to thousands of ceasefire violations in lebanon
[02:40:56] and the more trump signals that he can't be bothered right now the more they convulse
[02:41:00] There's a certain resignation on channel 14 at the moment where everyone is talking about
[02:41:03] is really just telling them that something is going to happen, but then lamenting that
[02:41:06] Trump still holds the ultimate approval, which can still happen, but not immediately like
[02:41:12] they want.
[02:41:30] Call Trump and ask me what Stephen Chung is wearing. We know you got his digits. Yeah, I do, but I'm not gonna do that. I
[02:41:38] Know you like number
[02:41:40] Fuck I can't stop saying
[02:41:42] I'm a numbers guy. I'm a numbers guy. I know you like number
[02:41:51] And I got Trump's number on my phone and I could call him right now I
[02:41:57] I could call him right now and say Mr. President
[02:42:01] Donald Trump you're doing such a good job
[02:42:04] Thank you for defending Israel
[02:42:15] Mogg
[02:42:17] I
[02:42:22] Erica Kirk
[02:42:24] That's not real
[02:42:25] Erica Kirk will perform the national anthem on games here on NBA finals. Yeah, that's not happening. That'd be really funny though
[02:42:32] You got a grok it you can never cloud it. I will never cloud it. Okay cloud cloudia woman's name
[02:42:39] I do Gemini I can grok it. I chat you Pt. I never cloud it
[02:42:43] Do you do this voice while not streaming? Yes, I stim all the time nowadays.
[02:42:59] Let me guess, Israel will be persuaded that back off, even though ballistic missiles have been fired into that country,
[02:43:05] four waves targeting civilian populations. Is that what we would do?
[02:43:09] Oh, oh, Marky Mark. Marky Mark. Don't have an aneurysm, buddy. Don't worry. I'm sure Trump will
[02:43:18] still let the big dog do whatever he wants to do.
[02:43:23] A fragile, uh, all right. Trita says a fragile arrangement had been reached in Lebanon. Iran
[02:43:27] had made clear that if Israel continued to strike Lebanon, it would strike it Israel.
[02:43:31] The US Israeli side says that overnight has blocked killed 15 Israeli soldiers, a violation
[02:43:35] of that arrangement in their view and a sign that Iran either didn't or couldn't control has
[02:43:39] Hezbollah. At the same time, Israel knew that renewed attacks on Beirut, particularly Dahya,
[02:43:45] would either force Tehran to attack her back down while having the added benefit of further
[02:43:49] weakening U.S. Iran diplomacy. Iran did not back down. An attack on Dahya, according to
[02:43:53] the Iranians, is designed to kill as many senior Hezbollah and Iranian officials as
[02:43:57] possible, so a response was inevitable in their view.
[02:44:01] By now, four waves of missiles have been fired at northern Israel, Haifa, and other areas.
[02:44:05] missiles are of higher quality than the ones Iran used during the war. That's again also remarkable.
[02:44:13] Israel will strike Iran within the next few hours and the Iranians don't have any other
[02:44:16] expectation whether the US enters the fighting actively as well or only provides support for
[02:44:20] Israel is the big question mark right now. The US side is deeply frustrated that the MOU has not
[02:44:26] been signed yet and accused the Iranians of either playing for time or over negotiating or being
[02:44:30] incapable of getting the U.S.
[02:44:33] The Iranians in turn accuse the U.S. of constantly changing the parameters while being unwilling
[02:44:37] to release a portion of Iran's frozen assets at the outset of the MOU as a way to prove
[02:44:41] their seriousness.
[02:44:42] If Trump doesn't enter the war, he will be accused of abandoning Israel.
[02:44:45] If he enters the war, he will validate that Israel is an effective veto on the negotiations
[02:44:50] and on whether the U.S. is at war or not.
[02:44:52] A true America-first policy would have worked to extricate the U.S. from the Israeli-Iranian
[02:44:57] rivalry.
[02:44:58] Now more than ever, it should be clear why such an exit serves US interest.
[02:45:05] I knew that that was a Mark Levin tweet you were reading without seeing it, so your Mark
[02:45:08] Levin is also improving.
[02:45:10] Hell yeah, thank you.
[02:45:28] What is this? Tell me you saw this is on vindication again that these people are so awkward IRL.
[02:45:39] I look. Yeah, I think I saw this. It sounds like the warning shot scared Trump and showed
[02:45:49] how much he wants to deal, which would be a good thing. But we've all fallen for this
[02:45:52] before, says Matthew Petty. I agree with that as well. Let's take a look at what's
[02:45:58] saying here. What's the end of saying?
[02:46:02] Trump is trying to find some sort of off-ramp in the midst of the very beginnings of what
[02:46:06] is a clear escalation. If Israel doesn't respond, that would be incredibly damaging politically
[02:46:13] to Netanyahu. And then, although it might try to de-escalate the entire situation, it
[02:46:18] It also doesn't address Lebanon, so that the open threat from Iran to continue to strike
[02:46:24] Israel if Israel's operations in Lebanon continue still very much appears to be on the table.
[02:46:29] It was just last week that Iran threatened to attack Israel if Israel attacked Beirut,
[02:46:35] a threat that we very much saw them carry out just about an hour or so ago, the beginning
[02:46:40] of that in what has been at least three barrages of Iranian missiles targeted towards Israel.
[02:46:45] So now we sit at this critical moment between the U.S., Israel, Lebanon, Iran, as we wait
[02:46:51] to see in which direction this goes.
[02:46:53] Trump has made his preference clear.
[02:46:55] He wants to push for the continuation of negotiations, not only with the U.S. and Iran, but also
[02:47:00] in all likelihood between Israel and Lebanon.
[02:47:02] It was just days ago that the U.S. brokered another ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon,
[02:47:08] but Hasbollah rejected that.
[02:47:09] And we saw a continuation and escalation of fighting on that front.
[02:47:13] And now Trump is trying to continue to push for negotiations in the middle of what has
[02:47:17] been an incredibly volatile.
[02:47:22] But also between the U.S. and Iran, it very much looks like the ceasefire that looks like
[02:47:28] it's falling apart, both on Israel's northern border and in the Gulf, is at a critical moment
[02:47:34] where it could go either way.
[02:47:36] Oh, my gosh.
[02:47:37] All right.
[02:47:38] so important because you're really underscoring, you know, the thoughts, the consequences of
[02:47:45] how will Netanyahu weigh the political versus the military ramifications of how to move
[02:47:52] forward if indeed being urged by the president of the United States to hold off on any kind
[02:47:59] of retaliation.
[02:48:00] I mean, is this something that stews for Netanyahu over a matter of hours or days before we
[02:48:07] see how he renders a decision given this kind of crossroad.
[02:48:16] It's an incredibly important question and one of the most fascinating in this particular
[02:48:19] moment.
[02:48:20] Israel has the ability to respond within hours.
[02:48:23] They've had plans and Netanyahu has made clear that he wants to continue the war against
[02:48:26] Iran.
[02:48:27] So it's likely very quickly that Israel could launch a wave of strikes against Iran and
[02:48:33] against Iran.
[02:48:34] successfully throughout the first two or three months of this war, and they can do so again.
[02:48:39] Netanyahu has repeatedly touted his relationship with Trump.
[02:48:43] Trump in fact said just a couple of hours ago to NBC News that he has some disagreements
[02:48:48] on a couple of issues with Netanyahu, but they're generally on the same page here.
[02:48:52] So it would be an incredible and very open break if Trump suddenly tells Netanyahu not
[02:48:57] to respond after Israeli officials have made clear.
[02:49:00] I think one of the craziest elements here that's like not being discussed as much is the reality
[02:49:07] that Israel's defenses have been deteriorated. Okay. And that's part of the reason why some
[02:49:13] of these opening salvos, albeit limited, actually struck targets inside of Israeli soil.
[02:49:20] I don't know if Netanyahu is banking on that, especially because from his calculations,
[02:49:27] you might think, okay, if a couple of Israeli civilians die in the process, this will also
[02:49:32] allow me to redouble my efforts. It'll galvanize the public against a war with Iran.
[02:49:39] So like, or even if that's a part of the consideration at all.
[02:49:47] Conversation even further, CNN Global Affairs commentator Sabrina Singh. She's also former
[02:49:53] President Biden, great to see you.
[02:49:55] I mean, how do you see this?
[02:49:57] This is an incredible juncture that
[02:49:59] has just been described by
[02:50:01] Oren and also Jeremy's reporting.
[02:50:03] How do you see all of this happening?
[02:50:05] And what the calculus is
[02:50:07] on all sides involved?
[02:50:09] There's no question that the
[02:50:11] ceasefire right now is being
[02:50:13] tested and probably tested to its
[02:50:15] absolute limits. I mean, we
[02:50:17] haven't seen Iran and Israel
[02:50:19] strike each other.
[02:50:21] Iran and Israel strike each other
[02:50:24] Since that the ceasefire went into effect in early April
[02:50:27] So I think if Israel chooses to respond back to these Iranian ballistic missile it stop calling Sabrina sing denims
[02:50:33] Okay, Sabrina sing is a war monger and a war criminal
[02:50:39] Denims is not domestic concerns that Oren laid out there
[02:50:42] I think the Israeli people would want to see a response back
[02:50:45] So it's highly likely that Israel would respond and they said you know in a very large and massive manner
[02:50:50] What that looks like still is to be determined, but I think what you're seeing right now is the ceasefire slowly breaking apart
[02:50:58] Now can the US, can Donald Trump bring everyone back to the table and try and you know piece it together with with bandages?
[02:51:06] I mean, that's also a potential, but I think also what we should be looking at here is where does Pakistan's role fall in all of this?
[02:51:13] in all of this. Can they also bring both sides, or at least Iran, to the table and to try
[02:51:18] and get them to stop any response? But of course, as we know, Iran is responding because
[02:51:23] of Israel's ongoing operations in the southern part of Lebanon in response to Hezbollah.
[02:51:30] They wanted to see a ceasefire in Lebanon coupled with the ceasefire between the U.S.,
[02:51:36] Israel, and Iran. And they, and you know, very much so, Israel's trying to decouple
[02:51:40] that from any ceasefire negotiation.
[02:51:42] and you're bringing up of you know pakistan just a reminder to everybody
[02:51:46] because it wasn't islamabad where
[02:51:48] uh... parties
[02:51:49] uh... were there i guess pakistan kind of playing as a mediator in these
[02:51:53] peace negotiations but oh my gosh that seems like that was such a long time ago
[02:51:57] so much has happened since then
[02:51:59] and so you see pakistan is potentially still relevant
[02:52:03] in helping to further
[02:52:05] course or encourage some sort of
[02:52:08] Of course, Pakistan is relevant. My life for Pakistan. Pakistan is the table as a Turk.
[02:52:13] This offends me. This hurts my feelings, but it is the truth. It is the reality. Pakistan is the
[02:52:20] table. Pakistan is at the table. Pakistan is the table.
[02:52:23] I have played a role in the negotiations. Do not want to see a resumption to this war. I mean,
[02:52:29] their oil facilities, oil refineries have been so badly damaged that we are going to feel the
[02:52:35] catastrophic effects from this war as we're already seeing it with the oil prices. But frankly,
[02:52:40] for these Gulf nations to rebuild some of these structures, it's going to take years.
[02:52:45] And so they don't want to see a resumption to this war. I think every single party,
[02:52:48] including the United States, I mean, this president is seemingly, does not want to
[02:52:53] restart kinetic action, but obviously reserves that right to do so if he chooses. But everyone is
[02:52:59] seeing the economic global impact that this war is having. And so bringing all the parties involved
[02:53:05] to the negotiating table, I think is where President Trump is, where the Gulf countries
[02:53:09] are.
[02:53:10] And Iran, frankly, has more time to run down the clock.
[02:53:13] I think they're more willing to accept the consequences and pain.
[02:53:17] But this president has the political calculation to make, and I don't think that's what the
[02:53:21] United States is.
[02:53:22] But I thought they deteriorated the IRGC's military capabilities completely.
[02:53:26] This is shocking to me.
[02:53:27] I thought they blew up 50, you know, GoFast boats and jet skis and stuff.
[02:53:32] What the hell's going on?
[02:53:33] with our answers just in the conference was
[02:53:35] why does here's the question that I have personally right if you're watching
[02:53:40] the news unfold here at the Hassanabah broadcast you already knew what was happening and you
[02:53:46] already knew what was going to happen oh my goat is on uh let's hear what he has to say
[02:53:51] look and it's always quite free to do whatever he wants because his party at his coalition is
[02:53:58] very strongly behind him, and in 20-30 directions he really can do whatever you want.
[02:54:05] But he will face now also a major dilemma, because if Donald Trump will really order
[02:54:12] him not to retaliate, he has to make his choice.
[02:54:17] Either he get into a dispute with Trump, which as we know, Trump is not someone you want
[02:54:24] to have a dispute with him, or he will be presented few months before the elections
[02:54:32] as a chicken, as someone who is just a clerk of Donald Trump, and has no say, no defendant
[02:54:40] say. So you wouldn't be, you wouldn't like to be in his position, but the bottom line
[02:54:46] is that any reaction now of Israel might lead us to an over war, and that's really
[02:54:52] the worst of all worlds.
[02:54:54] Gideon, don't go anywhere.
[02:54:55] I just want to expand the conversation here.
[02:54:57] Joining us on set here in Doha is Al-Zirr's Osama bin Javed and Dany Adhafer.
[02:55:01] She's the executive director of the Gulf International Forum.
[02:55:05] Osama, obviously some furious diplomacy happening behind the scenes.
[02:55:10] From the Iranian perspective, these missiles have been fired.
[02:55:14] First, second, third barrage of missiles toward Israelis.
[02:55:16] Israelis are saying they've been shot down.
[02:55:19] In the Iranian perspective, if there is no response, is this over?
[02:55:23] Well, you have to look at it as a whole, not just these incidents that are taking place.
[02:55:28] A condition of the ceasefire was, even before Calabash traveled to Islamabad, he said no
[02:55:34] talks without ceasefire in Lebanon.
[02:55:36] As he landed, the mediators were able to pull something out and say, well, the Israelis
[02:55:40] have promised they're going to concentrate on the south and will not attack Beirut.
[02:55:46] That is a red line that the Iranians were not willing.
[02:55:48] And they have been repeatedly saying this, that if you attack this, this is where everything
[02:55:53] else collapses.
[02:55:55] Donald Trump obviously does not want that.
[02:55:57] And all of the reporting, if that is true, he wants to de-escalate.
[02:56:01] From the Iranian perspective, right after this salvo of missiles have been fired, you're
[02:56:07] looking at all of these phone calls.
[02:56:09] There's a flurry of phone calls, not just with allies in the region, but beyond as well,
[02:56:15] the Turks, the Pakistanis, the UK.
[02:56:18] I literally went away for an hour, what happened?
[02:56:21] I have been apprised of the situation.
[02:56:22] She brought an LGBT but the other kind.
[02:56:24] The idea is that the Iranians also do not want this to escalate further again.
[02:56:31] They also want the ceasefire.
[02:56:32] They want the terms as they are dictating them.
[02:56:36] They do not want to budge on those terms because as we've been discussing, that they
[02:56:40] want to have deterrence.
[02:56:42] They want the world, especially the United States and Israel, to know that yes, you've
[02:56:46] You've attacked us first time when we went into the talks, second time when we went into
[02:56:49] the talks, third time if you are going to attack us again, here is a whole host of avenues
[02:56:55] that are available.
[02:56:56] And if you look at the threats that Iranians have been making, including Babel Mandib,
[02:56:59] including Iraq, so far you have to note that Iraq has not come into this sphere and it
[02:57:05] can very well quickly come into this sphere as well.
[02:57:07] So there's multiple escalation avenues that Iran still has up its sleeve.
[02:57:12] It hasn't used all of those cards yet.
[02:57:14] But it appears that now, from the region and beyond, diplomacy is what is being pushed
[02:57:19] for.
[02:57:20] Again, we will have to wait and see if the supporting is true, if Donald Trump is able
[02:57:25] to stop Benjamin Netanyahu from retaliating.
[02:57:28] This could be a good thing to get, to accelerate the talks.
[02:57:32] But if not, this could again, spiral out of control.
[02:57:35] And you could see an escalation where the Iranians have warned that all of the American
[02:57:38] interests in the region are fair game.
[02:57:40] Daniel, I just mentioned the Iranian Foreign Minister Basarraqji on the phone with the
[02:57:44] Turks, the Brits, and the Pakistanis.
[02:57:48] Who do you think that the Gulf countries are likely on the phone with or trying to reach
[02:57:52] at this hour?
[02:57:53] Well, I think the Gulf countries are probably trying to engage with Iran.
[02:58:00] And also, I think if there is an opportunity, maybe Israel to try to calm things down,
[02:58:07] And especially talking to Trump to put pressure.
[02:58:10] But I think Trump is already interested in tempering down the situation and not escalating.
[02:58:18] I mean, I think I disagree with most of the views about Israel not striking back.
[02:58:25] I will be shocked if Israel does not hit Iran back.
[02:58:28] To me, I don't think that's even an option.
[02:58:30] A remote possibility.
[02:58:32] No.
[02:58:33] And maybe they'll be more surgical because of what Trump is supposedly saying to Netanyahu.
[02:58:41] But I think that the cards are going to be in Iran's hands on how this should escalate
[02:58:47] further.
[02:58:48] Gideon, is there any chance that as a result of this, the situation on the ground in Lebanon
[02:58:54] changes and that the Israelis somehow changed their tactics in that country?
[02:59:01] It might change, but not dramatically, Israel will not withdraw from southern Lebanon, and
[02:59:09] Israel will continue to act militarily in southern Lebanon.
[02:59:14] As about the attacks on the Dachya in Beirut, Israel claims that it was coordinated with
[02:59:21] the United States.
[02:59:22] The United States, as far as I heard, denies this, and that's a major point.
[02:59:27] Did Israel be a bomb in Beirut without notifying the Americans, without getting a permission?
[02:59:34] Because it is a violation, a clear violation of what was agreed between the United States
[02:59:39] and Israel, that Israel has a free and more or less in the south of Lebanon, but not in
[02:59:45] Beirut.
[02:59:47] So altogether we are in Healy.
[02:59:49] You can take it to any possible direction in Lebanon and between Israel and Iran.
[02:59:56] The Middle East is now in a turning point and nobody knows right now in this hour to
[03:00:04] which direction we take.
[03:00:06] Osama, would we be wrong in saying that Lebanon has not been high on the American priority
[03:00:12] list?
[03:00:13] And I say that only because Israel fired on and killed at least three Lebanese soldiers
[03:00:18] yesterday.
[03:00:19] There was no response.
[03:00:20] Oh, hold on!
[03:00:21] Barak Ravid is on scene.
[03:00:23] Let's see what he has to say.
[03:00:25] in order to strike Iran, especially if this is going to continue for a while. Israel needs
[03:00:31] air refueling. Israel needs operational coordination with U.S. forces. Israel needs help in search
[03:00:39] and rescue missions. Israel can go at it alone if it's a one-off, if it's two strikes, but
[03:00:47] if it's something that is going on now for a while, Israel needs U.S. assistance. And
[03:00:53] If President Trump will not give Netanyahu a green light, it will be very hard for Israel
[03:00:58] to go forward.
[03:00:59] Well, then this is very complicated because it's difficult to know or even assess how
[03:01:06] Netanyahu will receive this phone call or this discussion from the President.
[03:01:12] Would he put himself in a position of negotiating with the United States President to try to
[03:01:17] to convince him or tell President Trump the many reasons why it needs to follow through
[03:01:23] with its powerful response to Iran?
[03:01:27] Yeah, and I think Benjamin Netanyahu finds himself in uncharted waters.
[03:01:35] He was, I think, never in such a position.
[03:01:38] The last time he was in something that was a bit similar was in April 2024 after Iran
[03:01:46] conducted a missile attack on Israel, the U.S., then the Biden administration, and Israel
[03:01:53] defeated this massive missile attack from Iran. And then President Biden spoke to Netanyahu
[03:02:01] and told them, take the win. Don't, don't, even if you retaliate, do something that is
[03:02:08] proportionate, don't escalate. And eventually Netanyahu decided to retaliate, but a very,
[03:02:17] very, very limited retaliation with one missile fired at one Iranian air defense battery.
[03:02:25] And he sort of took the win. Now it's an even more complicated situation because President
[03:02:32] Trump is telling him, don't retaliate at all. So I think Benjamin Netanyahu is in a very
[03:02:38] very, very, very difficult situation like that.
[03:02:40] Yeah, very. All right.
[03:02:41] We're going to continue this conversation
[03:02:43] into the next hour.
[03:02:44] It doesn't have to be a very difficult situation.
[03:02:48] It can be a very simple situation.
[03:02:51] As long as he was like, okay, I guess I am abiding
[03:02:54] by American restraint, American demands for restraint.
[03:02:58] We're packing it up, but he can't do that.
[03:03:01] Right?
[03:03:02] He can't do that.
[03:03:03] So he has to fucking, he has to go nutty mode, doesn't he?
[03:03:08] We are witnessing the contradictions between Trump's America first fascist bullshit being a cut to capital in Israel. Yes
[03:03:16] Yes, every day that Israel gets to advance his agenda
[03:03:21] Unimpeded
[03:03:23] Hey, dude, just so you know your Instagram DM's to Stephen Chung leaked. No
[03:03:28] No, oh, no
[03:03:31] Actually, you know what fuck it. Yeah, it's true
[03:03:34] It's true
[03:03:36] I'm not ashamed of it
[03:03:40] I'm not ashamed of it and neither should you be okay. I mean look at him
[03:03:47] Look at him
[03:03:51] So beautiful
[03:03:54] Yeah, you got to shoot your shot
[03:03:56] I must remind you that the order what happened this evening was a total surprise in Israel total surprise nobody expected this
[03:04:03] Am I standing in the right place?
[03:04:05] All right.
[03:04:06] That is Gideon Levy, a columnist with the Haaretz newspaper, excuse me, and Tel Aviv
[03:04:13] Gideon.
[03:04:14] We certainly appreciate your insight for us today.
[03:04:15] Thank you.
[03:04:16] Thank you.
[03:04:17] It is 2100 GMT and you're watching Al Jazeera.
[03:04:22] In the last two hours, Iran has launched a wave of missiles towards Israel.
[03:04:27] Sirens have sounded across the country with projectiles seen over northern Israel.
[03:04:32] The military says that it has intercepted all the missiles launched so far.
[03:04:37] But there are reports that further attacks were expected.
[03:04:39] Iran has warned that it will respond with, quote, greater force if Israel attacks it.
[03:04:45] Shortly after the attacks were launched, the spokesman of Iran's Central Command gave
[03:04:49] a video statement.
[03:04:51] Ibrahim Zulfiqari said that the attack was in response to the Israeli strike on Beirut's
[03:04:55] southern suburb of Dahyeh and accused the U.S. of giving Israel the green light for
[03:05:00] that strike.
[03:05:05] Through its repeated violations of the ceasefire, the aggressive Zionist regime has continuously
[03:05:10] escalated its acts of aggression against the oppressed people of Lebanon.
[03:05:15] These actions have been carried out with the green light and support of the criminal United
[03:05:19] States and amid the silence of international community.
[03:05:23] By employing prohibited weapons, including phosphorus munitions, the regime has committed
[03:05:27] war crimes.
[03:05:28] Despite previous warnings issued by the Islamic Republic of Iran, the child-killing Zionist
[03:05:34] regime has crossed all red lines by intensifying its attacks in southern Lebanon and targeting
[03:05:40] Zahiyeh and the southern suburbs of Beirut.
[03:05:43] We had previously warned that if there were any crimes committed in Zahiyeh, we would
[03:05:47] excuse me, sir, do you know how anti-Semitic you're being by saying that the Zionist regime
[03:05:53] is real, kills children?
[03:05:56] Yes, they do kill children, but it hurts my feelings to hear that.
[03:06:00] I'll have you know, it's the only Jewish state in the world.
[03:06:04] How dare you say the only Jewish state in the world would ever commit atrocities like
[03:06:10] killing children, even if it actually is an atrocity that Israel, the only Jewish state
[03:06:16] in the world has committed as a matter of fact.
[03:06:19] It's really messed up that you would even bring that up.
[03:06:21] My feelings are hurt.
[03:06:22] fire. Tonight we can report that Iran's foreign minister is speaking with regional counterparts
[03:06:28] about the situation right now. And the IDF spokesperson released a TV statement earlier
[03:06:33] today indicating that schools across Israel tomorrow will be closed. He said Iran is trying
[03:06:39] to create a new equation when it conducts direct fire on our territory. In response,
[03:06:45] the IDF will attack in relation to the current security protocol. And so again, this is a
[03:06:51] a political decision ultimately that will be made by their what they're going to do
[03:06:55] is try to punish Lebanon again or punish Gaza.
[03:06:58] But the latest information that we have that means America is trying to restrain them.
[03:07:02] If they strike Iran, the war's back on probably.
[03:07:05] To the IDF strikes on Hezbollah in southern Beirut earlier today, President Trump telling
[03:07:10] Fox News that he has a message for Iran.
[03:07:12] He says you've shot your missiles.
[03:07:14] That's enough.
[03:07:15] Get back to the table and make a deal.
[03:07:17] Guys.
[03:07:18] Thank you so much as always.
[03:07:22] Thank you.
[03:07:23] All right, bringing it out to the table, Joey.
[03:07:26] From what we're hearing from Trey after he spoke with the president,
[03:07:29] the president seems maybe a tad bit frustrated and we know that this is...
[03:07:32] You think they're sad that on the big weekend show,
[03:07:34] they don't get to talk about me for once?
[03:07:36] For one Sunday?
[03:07:37] Because every single Sunday for the past three months,
[03:07:40] they've done a piece on how I'm, you know, dangerous anti-Semite terrorist.
[03:07:47] Now they actually have to talk about the IRGC being a dangerous anti-Semite terrorist instead before they come back and have serious talks
[03:07:54] What do you make of it? I mean, it's absolutely an escalation by Iran
[03:07:58] They rock and say it's because Israel is still fighting Hezbollah, which is kind of laughable considering just a few months ago
[03:08:05] Iran would have said they're not supporting Hezbollah at least not directly
[03:08:09] But within the day, we know that's true. We know that's where we are and the balls and president Trump's court
[03:08:14] He understands what's at stake here. There's political collateral
[03:08:17] then there's real people collateral.
[03:08:19] I don't think President Trump wants to see anybody die,
[03:08:22] much less Americans.
[03:08:23] But at the same time, you can't be President Trump
[03:08:27] that says, I'm going to carry a big stick and talk loudly
[03:08:31] and let Iran shoot missiles into our military bases
[03:08:36] if that becomes what happens and not do something about it.
[03:08:40] So the deterrence versus defeat right now,
[03:08:44] it would take months or a year to defeat Iran's military
[03:08:47] completely. Can we do things to deter? Can we do diplomacy? President Trump
[03:08:51] sure is trying hard, but Iran's not making it easy. Rachel, does the president move
[03:08:56] to do anything though militarily on behalf of or in coordination with Israel
[03:09:01] at this point or does the president seem more like he's going to let them deal
[03:09:06] with it and he's going to stay out of it? He mentioned to Trey that he wasn't a
[03:09:09] part of Israel's initiative. So perhaps he leaves it to them and he still
[03:09:17] once Iran to come back to the table, how do you see that playing out?
[03:09:20] Well, if we take the president at his words this week alone, he's not happy that Israel
[03:09:27] is bombing Lebanon.
[03:09:28] This is actually hurting the negotiation.
[03:09:30] In fact, he said, quote, I was referring to the conversation where he called Benjamin
[03:09:36] Netanyahu crazy and said, you know, everyone hates you.
[03:09:40] Stop doing this.
[03:09:41] He said, quote, I was a little perturbed at his constantly fighting with Lebanon.
[03:09:46] So we have one front of a war.
[03:09:48] We've partnered with Israel in Iran.
[03:09:51] And perhaps the hope, I thought, was that the negotiation on that war was to get rid
[03:09:58] of the nuclear weapons, make sure they don't have that, and hopefully they can deal with
[03:10:02] Hezbollah through that negotiation.
[03:10:04] But if you keep bombing Lebanon and killing the Lebanese people, many of them are Christians.
[03:10:09] Christian villages are getting bombed.
[03:10:11] Lots of bad stuff happening.
[03:10:12] Look, Hezbollah's hands are dirty in this for sure.
[03:10:15] And so is Iran, because Iran funds Hezbollah at the same time, the Lebanese people and
[03:10:21] many innocent people are being caught in the crossfire.
[03:10:24] So I think the best way is to get to the negotiating table as the president said, okay, Digibox,
[03:10:29] let's all get back.
[03:10:30] I'm sorry, how dare you?
[03:10:31] And hopefully the president can lead and end what's going on.
[03:10:34] Bro, they'll get the updated talking points soon.
[03:10:36] Right now, they're speaking out against Israel's wishes.
[03:10:39] They'll probably get the updated talking points as soon as Trump gets the updated talking
[03:10:42] points.
[03:10:43] uh... as soon as israel basically violates trumps uh... demands and then
[03:10:47] they'll be like well they had to do it entered into what is supposed to be a
[03:10:50] discussion between
[03:10:52] the united states in iran and of course israel's naturally be part of that in
[03:10:55] some ways but it feels like it's really shifted and recalibrated
[03:10:58] to be much more about what israel is doing yet
[03:11:01] i don't know how that changes things for our president our country but how do you
[03:11:05] see
[03:11:06] this latest news playing out negotiating with ron it means negotiating with
[03:11:10] Hezbollah or Hamas, they're just tentacles of that proxies as we call them.
[03:11:15] Some good news out of these strikes, there are only four missiles fired.
[03:11:19] And in the olden days, we're talking about before the U.S. went to war, 30 minutes of
[03:11:23] holy Toledo.
[03:11:24] That tells you either Iran was trying to fire something that was symbolic, just to say,
[03:11:29] hey, we're firing back, haha, or they don't have the capability to do it.
[03:11:33] So all I know is that the iron golems.
[03:11:35] by the way, the IRGC, the Islamic Republic, are the only force in the region that's currently
[03:11:45] defending the Lebanese Christian population against Israel's attacks, just for the record.
[03:11:50] I know they keep clarifying over and over again, oh, they're killing Lebanese Christians.
[03:11:54] If they were killing Lebanese Muslims, that's fine, but they're killing Lebanese Christians,
[03:11:58] that's not so fine. Yeah, well, okay. Iran is defending those Lebanese Christians.
[03:12:05] That's that's the calculus right now overall of where we are politically and also it by the way if gas gas prices have gone down
[03:12:12] 30 cents in the last two weeks
[03:12:14] All right, that's good if they go below four dollars and back towards three dollars that helps obviously
[03:12:20] Republicans in the midterms if this thing lingers until September October then early voting starts and we're still in the same place that we are now
[03:12:28] I'm sorry now then it right before the midterms and republics have some big problems as far as winning
[03:12:33] So, I mean, you know, Israel, so these rockets weren't fired towards US troops, they were
[03:12:38] fired towards Israel, right?
[03:12:40] President Trump's shown his, he's not happy with the fact that Israel was continuing its
[03:12:45] campaign against Lebanon, even in a ceasefire, or I guess Hezbollah, even in a ceasefire
[03:12:49] with Israel and Lebanon.
[03:12:50] We have to remember that Hezbollah is kind of an autonomous proxy within Lebanon, but
[03:12:54] like Rachel says, it's the Lebanese people that are calling across here.
[03:12:58] There's nothing here that says President Trump has retaliated at all.
[03:13:01] That's kind of what we're looking to see.
[03:13:03] Of course, President Trump wants to see all the missiles stop and actually move towards
[03:13:08] something that looks like peace.
[03:13:09] He needs that.
[03:13:10] But at the end of the day, it may be Iran trying to publicly shiver the U.S. and Israel
[03:13:15] a little bit, and President Trump may be put in a situation where that's what he has to
[03:13:19] do.
[03:13:20] He has to say, we're not responding.
[03:13:21] They didn't fire on us, and we're trying to get a peace deal.
[03:13:23] If Israel wants to be a part of this peace deal, they've got to stop attacking Hezbollah.
[03:13:27] But at the same time, Bibi Netanyahu is sitting there in Israel, and he's got his own right.
[03:13:31] that says, you're being a puppet of Trump.
[03:13:34] You're not finishing, you're not getting the win
[03:13:36] that you promised us because Trump's holding you back.
[03:13:38] And so there are a lot of tensions here.
[03:13:40] This is a complex thing.
[03:13:41] We knew that going into it.
[03:13:42] There are a lot of questions on why we went into it.
[03:13:45] These answers are to come, I believe,
[03:13:47] but between now and then,
[03:13:48] President Trump has one thing he has to do.
[03:13:50] He has to secure a victory with Iran
[03:13:53] other than opening the Strait of Hormuz.
[03:13:55] That's politically, that's what he has to do.
[03:13:58] That victory can't be the navies at the bottom of the sea
[03:14:01] and they don't have an air force
[03:14:02] cause those weren't the things we were worried about
[03:14:04] to begin with.
[03:14:05] It has to do with their long range ballistic missiles
[03:14:07] and their nuclear weapons capability.
[03:14:09] There has to be something tangible that you can show.
[03:14:11] And it has to be more than what Operation Midnight Hammer did.
[03:14:14] And I'm not saying those things aren't on the table
[03:14:16] or he's not getting there,
[03:14:17] but that's what the American people
[03:14:19] have an appetite for politically.
[03:14:21] The problem though is that you go into a war with a partner
[03:14:26] and you think you have the same objective.
[03:14:27] And to be fair, I think at the beginning of the war,
[03:14:30] the president, and I think everybody thought it was going to be a regime change, but very
[03:14:35] quickly he realized that was not going to be easy, and the president did the right thing.
[03:14:38] He adjusted and said, you know what, we want to make sure they don't have nukes.
[03:14:42] That would be good for us, and we can't have them controlling the Straits of Hormuz.
[03:14:47] But when your partner, Israel, they have a different objective.
[03:14:51] For them, what's best is no Iran or a regime change.
[03:14:54] And so that's the conflict.
[03:14:56] And that's the question.
[03:14:58] And I think overall, maybe it's time to think about,
[03:15:01] do you go into these kinds of conflicts
[03:15:03] when you have two different national security objectives?
[03:15:07] It complicates it.
[03:15:08] And not only are people dying in Lebanon,
[03:15:11] but the American people are being hurt by these gas prices.
[03:15:13] So I think American objectives are the best for America.
[03:15:17] And that's what we ought to do.
[03:15:18] And I think President Trump knows that for a while.
[03:15:20] Wait a minute.
[03:15:21] What?
[03:15:22] He has the frustration.
[03:15:23] The American people are not going to continue
[03:15:24] to pay high gas prices.
[03:15:25] Although we love Israel.
[03:15:27] hold on to be able to
[03:15:30] This is peak anti-semitism. Do they know what they're saying?
[03:15:34] Are they aware of the words coming out of their mouths right now? This is unacceptable
[03:15:39] It's still continuing to count votes as residents anxiously awake. Okay. I'm gonna be honest this paired up with like the new york times trifecta
[03:15:48] actually
[03:15:49] Make me feel like there is a different
[03:15:52] There's a different approach to israel that's incoming potentially now. Why am I saying?
[03:15:57] that. Okay? New York Times on their front page had three separate news stories that directly
[03:16:09] criticized Israel and named Israel in its criticism. Okay? Very different attitude. No neutrality,
[03:16:17] know, you know, Palestinians die, no Lebanese child died, style articles, just straight up
[03:16:26] directly saying Israel kills a Lebanese child, right? Israel kills a child in Lebanon. I think
[03:16:34] it was in Lebanon, right? Like, this is a very big change of pace. This is a very big change
[03:16:43] of attitude. It's a very big change of pace from the way that they normally cover it.
[03:16:47] Does anyone have that tweet?
[03:16:51] I'm trying to find it right now.
[03:17:00] Oh, sorry, in Habran, in Habran in the West Bank.
[03:17:02] But then there's also another attack
[03:17:05] of the place in Lebanon as well.
[03:17:06] And they wrote that as well.
[03:17:10] What is this?
[03:17:10] There was also their Marquis coverage on Israeli spying, Israel's installation of spyware on
[03:17:24] American envoy phones and also American military phones as well.
[03:17:29] Oh, here, this is it.
[03:17:30] This is what I was looking for.
[03:17:31] Thank you.
[03:17:32] Quite the combination of headlines on the New York Times website tonight.
[03:17:34] Pentagon sees growing espionage threat from Israel.
[03:17:37] Israeli Shrek kills three Lebanese soldiers days after troops was signed.
[03:17:40] Infant killed Israeli military fires on car in West Bank, Palestinian people say.
[03:17:43] Now obviously, on that last one, they're still using somewhat of a neutral language.
[03:17:49] Like they're making it seem like, you know, this infant was caught in the crossfires
[03:17:54] or something as though like the Israeli military didn't like directly fire upon this car and
[03:17:59] kill the baby, which is exactly what happened.
[03:18:02] But even then, the trifecta of these three articles above the fold, Israel's chart kills
[03:18:12] three.
[03:18:13] What visual evidence tells us about Israel's use of white phosphorus and Lebanon is interesting.
[03:18:21] APEC has obviously been losing its fucking mind over a White House official.
[03:18:24] This entire story is false and sourced someone who doesn't have any knowledge of what's
[03:18:27] going on. So that's big. That makes that that offers additional context to the way
[03:18:44] that Fox News is talking about Israel right now as well. Even if we get
[03:18:48] through this one, I suspect you're gonna have another round of some escalation.
[03:18:54] Either this is going toward escalation or toward a period in which diplomacy will take
[03:19:00] over and there'll be a fair amount of de-escalation because the two sides will reach some sort
[03:19:06] of an agreement and in a way it's on two parallel but connected tracks which are now running.
[03:19:12] The real question is which one is going to overtake the other?
[03:19:16] The negotiations for the possibility of a broader agreement or this tit-for-tat that's
[03:19:22] going to end up escalating ultimately in a major resurgence of conflict between Iran and
[03:19:29] the United States.
[03:19:30] We're not there yet.
[03:19:31] I think in the next 48 hours it'll be clear if that's where we're going or not.
[03:19:36] Right.
[03:19:37] And so setting that table and knowing where we are at this moment and knowing that the
[03:19:43] next 48 hours are critical, it would seem to me based on what you're saying, what our
[03:19:48] Our correspondents are saying that this phone call with Benjamin Netanyahu and President
[03:19:52] Trump seems to be the next big piece of this that's going to determine what happens next.
[03:19:59] Yeah, I mean, I think that's right.
[03:20:04] And again, they've maintained an easy partnership.
[03:20:07] The relationship is clearly instrumental.
[03:20:10] Both are adept in the art of the con.
[03:20:12] They're both very skilled politicians.
[03:20:14] They've used one another effectively. Netanyahu clearly, for political reasons, in Israel where Trump is more popular than he is.
[03:20:22] And Trump has brandished his pro-Israeli credentials while demonstrating when it matters to him, as it did in October, right?
[03:20:30] After the Israelis struck Homass' external leadership in Doha, he told the Prime Minister,
[03:20:36] take my 20-point plan or quote, or I'll be reported, I will walk, we will walk away from
[03:20:42] it. So, Netanyahu, again, I think his political requirements will supersede his need right
[03:20:49] now to demonstrate his toughness. He cannot cross Trump if he wants to maintain his political
[03:20:57] salience. If he does, Netanyahu is very vulnerable and those vulnerabilities leading up to a
[03:21:04] September most likely in October election are going to increase exponentially exponentially.
[03:21:10] He can't afford a bad call, Jess.
[03:21:14] Dude, channel 14 diplomatic correspondent, nothing would increase the chance of a deal
[03:21:19] with Iran more than a powerful joint strike by Israel in the US tonight.
[03:21:23] Unfortunately, the likelihood of that seems negligible.
[03:21:27] Oh my God, dude.
[03:21:30] Oh my fucking God.
[03:21:33] They're such little babies. They're like petulant children. It's crazy 100 days. What could they
[03:21:39] look like for the next 100?
[03:21:41] Look like that down. That's taken flex. IDF spokesperson, Brigadier General Effie Deffrin
[03:21:49] says the IDF is ready, both defensively and offensively. Yeah, notice how everyone instantly
[03:21:54] admitted a phone call from the president could shut everything down from Israel. I thought
[03:21:57] Biden was powerless when that happened. Yeah, I saw Alonzo's take on it. He said Kudos to
[03:22:02] Hassan the Hun for managing to remain calm in front of an honestly unrecognizable and
[03:22:06] uncharacteristically angry Lewis Goodall as he goes through every single tired pro-Israel
[03:22:10] talking point to the point of Loki justifying the UK ban and to be honest putting words
[03:22:14] in his mouth. Lewis Goodall is a good journalist. I listened to his work at LBC and his podcast
[03:22:19] often, so hopefully he doesn't block me, but this was not his best work. Truly felt like
[03:22:23] he was in a 1996 mindset and seemingly frustrated that Hassan the Hun was not an unhinged ideologue.
[03:22:28] What is this DB who's we
[03:22:42] American it's his back American it's his back online folks
[03:22:48] Israel bombing Lebanon a frustration already of course that I told you I fucking told you see
[03:22:53] breaking five new Israeli attacks reported in Yatar Valley area in Lebanon in the
[03:22:58] bench bailed district with the Nabatae governorate of Southern Lebanon.
[03:23:02] I'm telling you, this means that they recognize that they have to be restrained
[03:23:11] by America. They're not doing Beirut, but they're hitting Southern Lebanon. They're
[03:23:19] not hitting Beirut, but they're hitting Southern Lebanon. This is classic Israel.
[03:23:23] Okay
[03:23:25] That's why I said they're either gonna hit southern Lebanon
[03:23:27] They're gonna hit Gaza or something because that's all they do all they do is when they're when they have to
[03:23:34] When they are experiencing any kind of restraint from the American side
[03:23:39] They just unload on defenseless populations elsewhere they used to do this during the genocide all the fucking time
[03:23:53] Wake up and smell the coffee the corrupt Ottoman Empire has gone forever Jerusalem DC David's capital shall remain the eternal capital of Israel
[03:24:03] Okay, I
[03:24:06] Don't like that. They're coming after the the Ottoman Empire like this. I'll tell you that
[03:24:16] What is this dude, I saw you peep my logs before you made that comment and credit where credit is do what's the log in the comment
[03:24:23] What even money says Israel does it kick the puppy retaliation escalates against Lebanon without
[03:24:29] Retaliating on Iran. Yeah anarchy and Tylenol. I think you should have not consumed as much Tylenol
[03:24:35] If you think that I I got the idea that Israel always hits the most vulnerable targets
[03:24:43] From you okay less Tylenol for you I think
[03:24:47] The Iranian terrorism regime made a great mistake by choosing terrorism once again.
[03:24:55] Yeah, it's only terrorism when Iran does it in retaliation to Israel's totally moral and
[03:25:00] democratically organized actions.
[03:25:12] We struck India, Beirut, southern suburbs, following Hezbollah's relentless fire towards
[03:25:17] northern communities.
[03:25:18] The idea will continue to operate in Lebanon.
[03:25:20] We will not allow continued fire towards Israeli territory.
[03:25:23] We're prepared for the possibility of additional fire towards Israel.
[03:25:27] Iran's foreign minister speaks with France and Qatar on response to Israeli violations
[03:25:32] in Lebanon.
[03:25:33] Iranian foreign minister, bro, at a certain point, you got to recognize that the only
[03:25:38] country in this region that has any fucking real sovereignty and any real investment in
[03:25:42] Defending other countries not just themselves, but defending other countries as well is the Islamic Republic straight up
[03:25:50] Where is everybody else? Where's France?
[03:25:52] France is supposed to have some kind of like colonialist interest over Lebanon right like there a French-speaking population
[03:25:59] What are we doing?
[03:26:02] What the fuck are we doing what the hell is going on here?
[03:26:07] Everybody else gave up. Everybody else gave up. They are doing nothing.
[03:26:12] No restraints. No restraints whatsoever on Israel. They get to do whatever the fuck they want to do.
[03:26:20] The magnitude of what just happened may take some time to sink in. This is the first time
[03:26:26] Iran has struck Israel after Israel struck another country's territory. That is not Iran.
[03:26:30] Yes, that's also very important. Trita is right. This means that the battle lines have been moved.
[03:26:36] Iran's deterrence had already been restored in the sense that Israel knew that any strike on it would be responded to
[03:26:41] But now Iran has proven that it will also respond to Israeli strikes on Lebanon
[03:26:44] This is the first time in decades that a regional power has the means capacity and willingness to put hard power against Israeli military
[03:26:50] Maneuvers or aggression against the third party
[03:27:03] Is Iran is the only
[03:27:06] and
[03:27:18] Israel's
[03:27:21] expansion. This is the reason
[03:27:26] why Israel wants to
[03:27:32] wants to get the U.S. to try and destroy a new spicy take the piss off liberals and make
[03:27:47] them think unlocked. I mean, it's true.
[03:28:11] That is some form of irony. They all they started all this to make Iran weaker, but
[03:28:15] only made it more powerful as a regional actor. Yes. They forced the wrongs hand, they forced
[03:28:21] the wrongs hand to do anything about it. They were clearly not interested in doing anything up
[03:28:26] until this moment. They were engaging in strategic, strategic restraint. And now they've moved on to
[03:28:36] strategic deterrence. And in the process of engaging in strategic deterrence, they've shown
[03:28:42] how much more all fought nevermind
[03:28:46] this might be another
[03:28:47] walk-offs and i'll be uh... you know that i'm going to happen
[03:28:51] uh... to get to where uh... we need to be
[03:28:54] it's gonna have to get a lot more ugly than it is right now
[03:28:58] adrian
[03:28:58] domestically
[03:29:00] what is the president looking at it as we head into these midterms because we
[03:29:04] we have the gas prices which have obviously been affected by this war
[03:29:08] uh... that they they would like to see come down
[03:29:11] uh... you have a broadly unpopular war based on poll after poll that we get
[03:29:16] uh... with the american people the president promised no new wars
[03:29:20] as david notes his his explanation has been that he doesn't want
[03:29:24] you want to have a nuclear weapon but at this point it's unclear if that's going
[03:29:28] to be the outcome of this agreement or not
[03:29:31] uh... democrats certainly are trying to push the the war powers this war powers
[03:29:36] resolution again and again
[03:29:38] uh... where democrats in all of this and we're using the president is
[03:29:41] domestically
[03:29:44] well i mean i think that there's a lot of things i'm packing me number one i
[03:29:48] think a lot of america's don't understand just go why we're in this
[03:29:51] one the first place
[03:29:53] presidents trump gave what he wanted to
[03:29:55] give which was the longest state of the union dress address ever
[03:29:59] hundred eight minutes he spent three minutes of that address talking about
[03:30:02] iran and in several days later go is goes in
[03:30:04] and attacks on you know u.s. doing the first make the first strike so
[03:30:09] a lot of people still don't really understand why we're in this one the
[03:30:11] first place what they do understand is every time they go to that gas pump
[03:30:15] to put gas in their car gas prices are again and it's a little bit more
[03:30:20] a week before two weeks before i think it's going to be very cool is seven
[03:30:23] months ago
[03:30:24] and dot on trump knows that going into the midterms at gas prices are high
[03:30:28] his party is going to have a worse time
[03:30:30] in the midterms they would traditionally obviously just to get any party
[03:30:33] that's currently in control.
[03:30:36] The opposite party tends to do better in the midterms.
[03:30:38] But when you layer on high gas prices,
[03:30:40] a war that many Americans, including a lot of independents,
[03:30:43] by the way, don't understand why we're in this war
[03:30:45] in the first place.
[03:30:46] Lairing on the affordability issue.
[03:30:48] If you're the average ordinary voter
[03:30:50] and you're looking at the big picture here, you're saying,
[03:30:53] is this guy actually trying to fight for me?
[03:30:56] Or is he more concerned about our foreign adversaries
[03:30:59] and trying to figure out how to make things in his mind
[03:31:03] better on the foreign affairs front as opposed to the domestic front.
[03:31:06] So there's a lot to unpack, but the bottom line is just, even if this war were to end
[03:31:10] today, which is David very succinctly laid out, it's not going to.
[03:31:14] But even if it was, we're still going to have gas prices at very high rates by the time
[03:31:20] the election goes around.
[03:31:22] Donald Trump knows this, and I think that's one of the reasons why you're seeing him sound
[03:31:26] and appear more erratic as of late because he can't end this war and he wants to.
[03:31:31] and david i've had some republicans that i've talked to an interviewed
[03:31:34] say listen
[03:31:35] yeah gas prices are high but
[03:31:38] they're lower than when and that it's certain points in the by ministration
[03:31:41] that that that the administration they came down they did come down i was a
[03:31:44] real cell who is saying that in america like gas was are you talking to donald
[03:31:50] trump himself case that that there are good parts of this economy
[03:31:55] uh... like this jobs report that we just saw very recently
[03:31:58] uh... but at the same time you were on the block of the dynamic is on the
[03:32:02] illusion that she's fine
[03:32:05] i don't think most trump supporters even think it's fine
[03:32:08] the only people that are saying things are fine you need to shut the fuck up
[03:32:11] is like mark levin
[03:32:13] feel that because they're like no matter what the cost is to the american
[03:32:16] working class is still valid because at least we're doing israel's bidding
[03:32:19] drean is uh... is correct you know you have to accept i think the trump
[03:32:23] administration the president on down
[03:32:25] needed to do a better job of explaining what we're doing in the middle east and
[03:32:28] why right nobody
[03:32:30] uh... ever at the three of us i know are old enough to remember what it felt
[03:32:33] like on september twelfth
[03:32:35] the day after the attacks on the world trade center
[03:32:37] this president i think should have laid out more forcefully
[03:32:40] that he's trying to make sure that we never have that feeling here in our
[03:32:43] guts
[03:32:44] in our hearts and our souls in this country again we cannot allow
[03:32:48] the theocracy in iran that possessing nuclear weapons
[03:32:53] uh... at some point one of their proxies or or themselves
[03:32:56] may try to do something there's only one theocratic ethno state that has
[03:33:00] nuclear arms in the region is belligerent and that is not iran it's
[03:33:03] israel okay
[03:33:06] theocratic governance
[03:33:08] is also quite literally
[03:33:10] a nazi ethno state iran is far more diverse in israel is
[03:33:14] and it's minority rights are are far more intact at least on the at least on
[03:33:18] ethnic boundaries
[03:33:20] uh... as opposed to how israel treats palestinians
[03:33:23] okay uh... that you know gas prices are basically end up being a tax on
[03:33:27] everything right
[03:33:28] so the you need gas in the truck that takes uh...
[03:33:31] groceries to the grocery store picks up eggs from the farmer
[03:33:34] you know prices are all time low right now interestingly
[03:33:37] but the people do feel that they feel alone just in your right you've got it
[03:33:41] they have to feel they have to be optimistic about the future the country
[03:33:45] and right now that you're listening to one audio only thought i was watching
[03:33:48] fox no fox is actually more welcome more critical of israel somehow today
[03:33:52] i have it not as high
[03:33:54] um... but you know they they got down to the twos
[03:33:57] in the truck administration people are very excited about that so they're
[03:34:00] they're back up there summer months are coming people to feel when they travel
[03:34:04] so i i think the administration to do a good job of explaining
[03:34:07] what they're doing and and trying to say
[03:34:10] the stick with us better things are in on the way
[03:34:13] the vote for the democrats
[03:34:14] things are gonna get much worse i think they're gonna need to make that case
[03:34:16] forcefully in these coming next few months.
[03:34:19] And Adrienne, just lastly to you, on that point that David was making, are the Democrats
[03:34:24] doing enough, do you think, politically, to capitalize on this moment?
[03:34:29] And what would you like to see them doing in the next several months to get that message
[03:34:33] across to voters effectively?
[03:34:35] I mean, Jess, it's a great question.
[03:34:38] First of all, Democrats, let's keep in mind, have no power in Washington right now.
[03:34:42] I mean, we don't have the House.
[03:34:43] We don't have the Senate.
[03:34:44] Trump rules the White House.
[03:34:45] So MAGA effectively rules Washington, D.C. at the federal level.
[03:34:49] Now, obviously, we've got governors who are very effective messengers for the Democratic
[03:34:53] Party.
[03:34:54] They're going out there.
[03:34:55] They're talking about the affordability issue.
[03:34:57] They're trying to find solutions in their own states to try to mitigate some of these
[03:35:01] high gas prices and trying to make prices lower for groceries and everyday items that
[03:35:05] families need to live on.
[03:35:08] I will say, Jess, at the federal level, I would like to see my fellow Democrats who
[03:35:14] are sitting in elected office, be a little bit more forthcoming with what our plan would
[03:35:19] be when we take back the House and when we might possibly take back the Senate.
[03:35:24] It's pretty much a foregone conclusion, I think, at this point that Democrats are going
[03:35:27] to win back control of the House of Representatives.
[03:35:29] But what is that forward-looking plan?
[03:35:31] What is that plan that on day one, when Democrats get more power in Washington, what is the
[03:35:36] plan that we're going to implement that is going to lower prices for the American people,
[03:35:41] is going to protect democracy, that is going to ensure that going into the 2020 elections,
[03:35:46] 2028 elections, that we have free and fair elections. What is that plan? Because right
[03:35:51] now I think that's what the American people are looking for. They know that Donald Trump
[03:35:54] has his issues. They know that he tends to self-implode from time to time, but they don't
[03:36:00] know at the same time what the Democrats are going to do for them. And I think that's one
[03:36:05] of the reasons why our party brand is a little underwater right now. But I think as we get
[03:36:10] closer than the terms that those points will be more clear.
[03:36:15] Because people are looking for a change.
[03:36:16] Adrienne's a great spokesperson, but she,
[03:36:20] Adrienne's a great spokesperson,
[03:36:21] but she has to admit that Orange Man Bad,
[03:36:25] which has been the theory, the case for Democrats,
[03:36:29] doesn't sell.
[03:36:30] And currently, there is no plan for the Democrats.
[03:36:33] That's why they're kind of in the wilderness.
[03:36:35] There is not one spokesman, there's not one.
[03:36:38] The current spokesman for the party seems to be,
[03:36:40] you know this uh... rate fantasizing nazi creep in main uh... grand
[03:36:44] platter that the
[03:36:45] everybody's rallying around who's
[03:36:47] who who made the only way to do you know that i don't fucking general dad
[03:36:53] what are you saying
[03:36:56] dog shut the fuck up he's currently the kind of the leader the party everyone's
[03:37:00] running the main uh... rally around
[03:37:02] partner show
[03:37:04] all you know
[03:37:06] the last word on this, hang on, you can answer to that because I do think there are a lot
[03:37:11] of questions about Graham Plattner representing the Democratic Party in Maine and if you think
[03:37:15] that that is the right person representing the Democratic Party there.
[03:37:20] Look that's what we'll find out on Tuesday, the elections, the primary election is on
[03:37:24] Tuesday we will see, we will let the main voters decide there, I actually think that
[03:37:28] Graham Plattner has been an effective messenger in terms of getting some of the constituents
[03:37:32] that we go.
[03:37:35] Oh, did we lose Adrian?
[03:37:39] I think I'll finish.
[03:37:41] All right, well, David and David
[03:37:43] Irvin, Adrian Alrod, we will leave it there.
[03:37:46] Technical difficulties.
[03:37:47] Thank you to both of you.
[03:37:48] We really appreciate it.
[03:37:49] Stay with CNN.
[03:37:50] Our breaking news coverage out of the Middle East continues
[03:37:52] is Iran fires a wave of ballistic missiles at Israel.
[03:37:55] We'll have an update for you when we come back.
[03:37:58] Dude, that's so fucking annoying.
[03:38:02] Actors on actors now streaming on the CNN app. Never mind. David Urban is not a general
[03:38:09] David Urban was in the military too though. He was a artillery officer
[03:38:15] Again, he drops all of that shit though. Like what were your homies saying?
[03:38:21] What what was the language that your fucking homies were using?
[03:38:24] What was the language you were using when you were an artillery officer in the United States?
[03:38:27] Army's 101st Airborne Division, serving from 1986 to 1991, while serving in the Persian
[03:38:33] Gulf, you were awarded the Bronze Star Medal. What kind of language were you fucking using,
[03:38:38] bitch?
[03:38:39] The regime has committed war crimes. Anyway, we've already seen this multiple times at
[03:38:44] this point. New York Times PR responded to APEC. The Times article was based on a recent
[03:38:49] US intelligence report and other information provided by American officials were confident
[03:38:53] in the accuracy of our journalism.
[03:39:00] Interesting.
[03:39:02] Israeli platforms.
[03:39:04] Some of the language coming out of Israeli platforms tonight,
[03:39:06] Beirut must burn tonight, otherwise we are in trouble.
[03:39:09] A sovereign state cannot accept the situation
[03:39:11] where it is attacked with four barrages and does not respond.
[03:39:14] Another routine day in Israel,
[03:39:15] two more soldiers buried a deadly attack
[03:39:17] in the heart of the country,
[03:39:17] has been left firing towards the settlements,
[03:39:20] an extensive missile fire from Iran.
[03:39:22] The people of Israel are waiting for a tweet from Trump to get an update as usual.
[03:39:27] Oh shit, they're starting to get mad at Trump.
[03:39:29] They think Trump is holding them back.
[03:39:32] Oh my god, oh my god.
[03:39:35] Oh, they are mad at Trump.
[03:39:36] Oh, I fucking, yeah, I used to pray for times like this, dude, holy shit.
[03:39:42] Oh, that's so perfect, dude.
[03:39:45] That's so fucking perfect.
[03:39:48] What is this?
[03:39:49] 136 drones were also launched. They should arrive in the next hours if they make it through the different layers of air defense systems in Iraq or Jordan
[03:40:02] Anyway, let's see one analysis from Esfand Yahr about Monk Lodge
[03:40:10] Who wrote this three days ago and recently said this is test one tonight was about test one. Let's take a look
[03:40:17] He's an analyst.
[03:40:20] He says Iran has included three important tests within the terms of the MOU, it is negotiating
[03:40:24] with the United States.
[03:40:25] These tests are intended to give Iran's leaders confidence that Trump, a counterparty they
[03:40:28] see as highly unreliable, is ready to make credible commitments, opening a pathway for
[03:40:33] further diplomacy.
[03:40:34] First, the Iranians are testing the credibility of American security commitments by insisting
[03:40:38] that the MOU encompasses a Lebanon ceasefire.
[03:40:43] They are not doing this for the sake of Hezbollah or Lebanese shias, rather they want to see
[03:40:47] if Trump can restrain Israel in its own backyard.
[03:40:50] I have also made this exact same analysis.
[03:40:53] I've also said this exact same thing, and it's probably the most reliable part of the
[03:40:59] MOU, the Memorandum of Understanding, because it's the one that is the most difficult to
[03:41:03] achieve given the American attitude towards Israeli belligerence has been maximalist support
[03:41:12] since the first Trump administration only escalated after October 7 with the Biden administration
[03:41:17] and Donald Trump is certainly never really restrained Israel at all.
[03:41:22] All of the quote unquote fake restraints that you have seen from both the Biden administration
[03:41:27] that have been violated over and over again all the red lines and the Trump administration
[03:41:31] have been theater.
[03:41:33] Okay.
[03:41:34] It's theater.
[03:41:35] It's pure theater.
[03:41:36] Even when Trump was like, oh, I told the Iranian or I told the Israeli air force to come back
[03:41:42] If you recall, this was not in Epstein's theory, but this was in the previous
[03:41:47] Engagements that they had that was all theater. It's all bullshit
[03:41:50] They have been letting Israel do whatever the fuck it wants as evidenced by the fact that Israel now occupies a
[03:41:56] Larger share of Lebanese territory than they did or close to the 1982
[03:42:03] invasion, right
[03:42:05] All of that happened with America allowing Israel with America's allowance, right?
[03:42:11] That's so it's important to recognize that. Iran wants to see if America will restrain Israel.
[03:42:19] Iran wants America to commit to restrain Israel. It's an important muscle that they want to flex.
[03:42:26] This will show how much leverage Iran truly has over Israel. And obviously, America has not done
[03:42:32] so in good faith because the fact that Iran has abided by the standards of a ceasefire
[03:42:43] far better than Israel has shows that America sees Iran coming to terms of the ceasefire
[03:42:53] as weakness, right?
[03:42:57] If Trump is able to do that, though, he might be able to defend his own deal with Iran from
[03:43:01] Israeli sabotage second. Iran is insisting on a nominal fee for vessels passing the
[03:43:05] Shredda Hormuz. This is not because they want more revenue, which would be negligible.
[03:43:08] They are insisting on this arrangement because they want to test whether Trump will endorse a
[03:43:11] deal that includes clear instantiation of Iranian sovereignty and authority, especially one that
[03:43:17] did not exist before the war. Iran believes in the logic of a win-win agreement. Trump does
[03:43:21] not. Forcing him to accept the fee forces him to give Iran a win and defend it as such from
[03:43:26] The Iran hawks in a circle. This is politically meaningful.
[03:43:30] Agreed.
[03:43:31] Finally, Iran is insisting on a release of frozen assets.
[03:43:33] This sums in question our tiny fraction of the economic cost of the war.
[03:43:38] And the release of assets is not as valuable as the sanctions relief that Iran will also be targeting.
[03:43:42] But by insisting on the release of funds at an early stage of the negotiations,
[03:43:46] Iran can test whether the broader economic commitments such as sanctions relief will be
[03:43:50] credible if Trump's sanctions bureaucracy allows Iran to move and spend its own money.
[03:43:57] Okay, dude, Israel turning on Trump terrifies me. It shouldn't. It should excite you.
[03:44:04] The fuck do you mean? Sometimes you got to exhaust the contradictions to a to a final end. Okay.
[03:44:11] straight up. This is not, I mean, it's scary, certainly as far as the human cause, but we
[03:44:22] could potentially find out who's the big boss in the room. I still believe it's America.
[03:44:30] Perhaps I'm foolish, but of course, I still maintain the position that America is the
[03:44:34] big boss in the room. It's totally ridiculous. Over under a
[03:44:42] Samsung option. No, I don't. I know, guys, I don't think Israel is
[03:44:47] going to nuke the world because they didn't get their fucking
[03:44:51] wishes across. Maybe a very different Israel 20 years down
[03:44:55] the line that's like controlled by a million Itamar,
[03:44:58] Bengeviers, certainly. But it happening now under a more restrained, which is crazy to
[03:45:08] say I know, but a far more restrained force that still wants to maintain some semblance
[03:45:14] of allegiance and some semblance of influence in the Western world is not going to fucking
[03:45:21] do that.
[03:45:27] Jeb Bush level take. Wait, what? I mean, who knows? I've gotten some of the stuff wrong
[03:45:35] in the past because some of these countries are truly insane.
[03:45:39] Too much shared ability to your enemies is always, I'm not being charitable at all.
[03:45:49] saying this because you know Israel nukes Jericho's can't but as our friend Trita
[03:45:54] Parsey aptly put Israel also got the dolphin system from Germany so shouts
[03:46:02] out the Germany for that which means that their nuclear strike capabilities
[03:46:06] are actually beyond the Jericho systems which means that they can hit anywhere
[03:46:10] around the planet they want to including but not limited to California
[03:46:19] Good job, Germany.
[03:46:28] Anyway, the insistence on releasing a funds at the early stage of negotiations is to establish
[03:46:43] which trust to see if Iran can trust America. Because America, the American side, given
[03:46:51] the fact that they've lost this war, has to actually eat some dick. Okay? America has
[03:47:01] to kind of eat it a little bit, because if they don't do that, if they don't fucking
[03:47:07] do that, then they can't ever trust the American side to engage in a MOU or a ceasefire in
[03:47:17] any way, shape, or form.
[03:47:24] Is that simple?
[03:47:25] Iran will only consider the promise of sanctions really to be credible if Trump sanctions bureaucracy
[03:47:30] allows Iran to move and spend its own money.
[03:47:31] For many, in Washington, these demands seem unreasonable, but that is entirely the point.
[03:47:35] Iran's leadership won't tolerate a kind of narrow deal that allows U.S. policymakers
[03:47:38] to avoid putting political capital at stake.
[03:47:41] Iran wants a deal that reflects the unprecedented nature of war and ensuing crisis to meet the
[03:47:46] moment the diplomacy has to be transformative.
[03:47:48] Iran's leaders don't trust Trump, so they're testing him.
[03:47:51] So far, he's failing these tests.
[03:47:53] 100% agreed.
[03:48:00] The problem is any kind of deal-making, any kind of deal-making from the Iranian side,
[03:48:07] like any kind of investment in deal-making from the Iranian side is seen as weakness
[03:48:11] from the Trump side, which is a huge problem.
[03:48:13] So that's why they have to do stuff like this by striking Israel to force the American
[03:48:20] hand into restraining Israel.
[03:48:22] Otherwise, they're going to have to go back to war.
[03:48:25] They don't have the standoff munitions any longer.
[03:48:28] They don't even have the defensive.
[03:48:29] Israel doesn't have the defensive capabilities, they don't have the defensive munitions, and
[03:48:33] America's defensive munitions are also depleted, and there is no appetite from the Gulf nations
[03:48:38] to continue this war and to get pummeled by Iranian missiles again.
[03:48:42] The American side has made that analysis and recognized that the Iranian offensive capabilities
[03:48:47] have not deteriorated in the way that they claimed it had.
[03:48:52] So what are you supposed to do?
[03:48:53] back to the apex of Operation Epic Fury would be unbelievably costly for Israel, the Gulf
[03:49:02] Nations, and also the United States of America.
[03:49:06] So they don't want to disrupt the presence of a ceasefire from their own perspective.
[03:49:13] But Trump, on the one hand, has to recognize this, but also, on the other hand, is an idiot
[03:49:19] who believes that uh... any kind of investment in a ceasefire from the
[03:49:24] iranian side is a
[03:49:25] show of weakness
[03:49:26] but then i'll try to continue the conversation to continue the talks
[03:49:29] and probably to sign a deal in the next few days
[03:49:32] so i was bracing
[03:49:33] the response to your question to any strikes from israel and they say that
[03:49:38] when they happen
[03:49:39] then the next phase of strikes from iran against israel will be more
[03:49:43] devastated
[03:49:45] aljazeera's mohammed val and their own thank you very much
[03:49:48] So we go to the Lebanese capital, Ali Hashan is there, Ali, you heard Mohammed saying that
[03:49:53] the Iran's warning to Israel was related to Lebanon.
[03:49:58] And indeed, if you look at this, if you analyze this, all roads for what's happened this evening
[03:50:04] lead to Lebanon.
[03:50:06] Iran says that it attacked Israel because of what it is doing against Hezbollah in Lebanon.
[03:50:11] Israel, of course, has been pounding southern Lebanon, and earlier today attacked the Lebanese
[03:50:16] capital Beirut.
[03:50:18] The U.S. president was personally involved in trying to stop a similar attack in Beirut
[03:50:23] a week ago.
[03:50:24] So you've got at least three regional powers, I'm including U.S. in that list, that are
[03:50:29] heavily invested in what happens in Lebanon.
[03:50:33] How is all of this going to be perceived where you are?
[03:50:38] Well, indeed, what we are seeing in Lebanon being the ground zero of this escalation,
[03:50:50] Israel wanted by this attack today noon to emphasize that it doesn't want Iran to link
[03:50:59] Lebanon to any kind of equations in the region.
[03:51:04] And this backfired in a way, whereas Iran now is linking it directly by retaliating,
[03:51:11] as they promised before, in defense of Beirut's southern suburb.
[03:51:16] And now they're adding another condition that Israel should not attack South Lebanon and
[03:51:22] Beirut's southern suburb, plus Beirut.
[03:51:25] Now, during the past hour, there have been several Israeli airstrikes in different areas
[03:51:32] in south Lebanon, in Saksakia, in Qana.
[03:51:35] And also we've had a Hezbollah attacking Israeli troops on the ground.
[03:51:41] So for the war here, it's business as usual.
[03:51:45] For the wider confrontation, it's not only about missiles and planes, it's also about
[03:51:53] who is pushing forward and who is trying to impose their own leverage on the ground.
[03:52:01] And this is actually a kind of a struggle of wills between Israel and Iran.
[03:52:08] Of course, the United States here seems to be wanting this to be contained at any price.
[03:52:15] However, there are many reasons not to believe that containment is possible, or at least
[03:52:21] it's very unlikely.
[03:52:24] What is this?
[03:52:25] You keep Hezbollah equals Iran.
[03:52:26] You keep quoting all right opinions from Israel to showcase a false reality where Israel is
[03:52:29] much more radical than it is? God, what the fuck are you talking about? False
[03:52:36] reality. Israel, here's the actual reality. The public is in
[03:52:41] support of Israel's genocide of the Palestinians. The public is in support of
[03:52:44] Israel's genocide of the Lebanese population that's currently taking place.
[03:52:47] The public is always in support. The public is always in support of Israel's
[03:52:52] further military incursions. It doesn't fucking matter what the far right of the
[03:52:58] Israeli government is saying, as opposed to the rest of the Israeli government, ultimately they are a coalition, okay?
[03:53:10] So fuck you're making Israel look bad by what dude pointing to fucking it to my bangy veers statements
[03:53:17] Wow, how fucked up. Yeah, Israel defends itself militarily as well. Yeah, notice how it's always Israel defending itself militarily by taking over
[03:53:27] additional territory and murdering children wholesale wholesale slaughter
[03:53:31] industrial scale slaughter of children that's the only way Israel knows how to
[03:53:36] defend itself yeah get the fuck out of here dude yeah oh yeah they did a
[03:53:41] defensive genocide in in Gaza they're doing a defensive colonial incursion
[03:53:46] into Lebanese territory right now yeah the reason why you're offended by this
[03:53:53] is because maybe you don't want to admit this but that's what your government
[03:53:56] fucking doing if you're Israeli. There are plenty of Israelis in here too by the way
[03:54:04] and they don't fucking defend the Israeli government.
[03:54:19] You have an issue with the truth. You don't have an issue with my statements because my
[03:54:23] statements reflect the truth. So you got to fucking work on it on your own. No, that's
[03:54:31] not the only way. Okay. What is this guy said in the past? Israel attack of Beirut was fairly
[03:54:43] base to be honest.
[03:54:50] Lease, Lease genocidal Israel supporter in the chat.
[03:54:58] So you do agree with the far right elements in Israeli society.
[03:55:02] Well point proven channel 14 is an alt-right network.
[03:55:06] Why are you covering it?
[03:55:07] Bro, you can't cover channel 14 news alt-right in Israel as if it's Israel's position.
[03:55:12] The Beirut attack was against the headquarters against them. Isn't that rightful enough?
[03:55:18] No, it's not
[03:55:20] It's not actually
[03:55:22] No, I don't think Israel has any right to even fucking. I'll say this
[03:55:26] I'll say this clearly
[03:55:28] Israel has no right to occupy Lebanon Israel doesn't have a right to kill the people that are defending
[03:55:35] Lebanon which is his Bola, okay?
[03:55:38] So yeah, no Israel doesn't have a right to do any of that shit
[03:55:42] You can fucking cope and cry and say channel 14 is like far right in Israeli society.
[03:55:54] But then you also agree with the, with the statements coming from the far right of Israeli
[03:55:58] society.
[03:55:59] And then you act like there's a real point of, uh, uh, divergence here, like as though
[03:56:04] you have some real significant difference in opinion.
[03:56:06] I don't know what channel 14's take on, on, I don't know, gay people are or whatever,
[03:56:12] We're talking about Israeli foreign policy and foreign policy is is
[03:56:17] completely
[03:56:19] Completely unified on more and more Israeli belligerents
[03:56:28] No, I don't
[03:56:29] No, that's not the only way I really do hear your shit. It was no, I don't sure I agree partly but Hezbollah is a rightful target, okay?
[03:56:37] If your dad is serving in the IOF, is he a rightful target?
[03:56:46] It's so fucking stupid man if Hezbollah is a rightful target the entirety of Israel is a righteous target you understand that right?
[03:56:53] So now you arrive at this weird position
[03:56:55] The only reason why you could have this inconsistent standard for the record is because no one had the military
[03:57:02] capacity, or the willingness to do to Israel what Israel has done to other countries.
[03:57:07] Okay?
[03:57:08] Now, you do have a country that's willing to do to Israel in a very limited manner what
[03:57:13] Israel, not even remotely close to what Israel has done to other countries, let's be real.
[03:57:19] But now you have marginal retaliation, and it causes you to fucking freak out.
[03:57:24] Same with Hisbalah.
[03:57:32] But he's by Hezbollah. Maybe that's why they defend themselves. Why does Hezbollah exist?
[03:57:38] Hezbollah exists because of the previous Israeli encouraged into into Lebanon. That's why it exists
[03:57:47] Previous Israeli involvement fomenting sectarian conflict inside of Lebanon drawing up a Lebanese civil war
[03:57:53] And and putting their thumb on the scale on the side of the phalanges that were fucking mass-laughtering the Shia militias
[03:57:58] invading Lebanon militarily. Of course some kind of militant resistance is
[03:58:03] going to form to defend the Lebanese territories as a consequence of Israel's
[03:58:09] belligerence. If Hezbollah's intentions were solely defending the innocent, then
[03:58:12] we're talking about a different... No, no. No, you don't get to make that fucking
[03:58:18] assessment, okay? You don't get to Hezbollah as a fanatic proxy that wants
[03:58:24] Israel to be demolished. It's a rightful enemy. Brother, if Israel doesn't want countries
[03:58:30] or paramilitary groups in the region to want it to be demolished, it shouldn't do things
[03:58:35] that it has been doing for the past 80 fucking years. You think it's rightful. I don't.
[03:58:43] You have to explain to me why you think it's appropriate, okay? Hezbollah is a political
[03:58:50] party that operates within the Lebanese parliament just because Israel and the United States
[03:58:55] of America and all the other puppies of Zionism have decided that Hezbollah is bad and wrong
[03:59:01] because it militarily fights back against Israel as a part of the acts of resistance
[03:59:06] doesn't mean that that is an accurate assessment.
[03:59:09] Terrorism is a vague definition, a vague standard applied to deny habeas corpus and to justify
[03:59:13] death and destruction and collateralize all the other people that happen to be a part
[03:59:16] of this sect.
[03:59:17] Okay?
[03:59:18] other civilians that die alongside, what they have decided is a terror cell.
[03:59:24] That's all terrorism is about, okay?
[03:59:26] That's all this designation is about.
[03:59:27] If we're going to have a serious conversation about whether the Lebanese population, the
[03:59:32] Shia militias have a right to defend the Lebanese homeland, we can have a conversation about
[03:59:37] that.
[03:59:38] But I'm pretty sure you're not going to be able to defend the argument there.
[03:59:46] Same thing goes for the Palestinian resistance in its entirety, from Hamas all the way down
[03:59:51] to PFLP, DFLP, and even former FATA militias that also worked in tandem with Hamas.
[03:59:57] Hamas is just a banner carrier, the current, the modern iteration of the Palestinian resistance.
[04:00:03] That's all it is.
[04:00:04] Their political perspectives beyond the end of the occupation is utterly immaterial in
[04:00:10] this process.
[04:00:11] You could say, oh, they're fanatic, they're fanatic, but it doesn't really fucking matter.
[04:00:14] Same with Hezbollah.
[04:00:16] The reason why Israel opposes Hezbollah, wants to kill as many Lebanese people as possible,
[04:00:21] including as many Hezbollah militia members as possible, is not because they're Islamists
[04:00:26] or something.
[04:00:27] They're doing, first of all, that wouldn't even be a just cause for Israel.
[04:00:30] We don't get to just murder people that we disagree with politically.
[04:00:34] They're doing that because they're a military force that is capable of restraining Israel
[04:00:38] militarily.
[04:00:39] They're a military force that is a resistance force that stops Israel from engaging Lebanon
[04:00:45] militarily because the Lebanese standing military is nothing, okay?
[04:00:54] And this is not like a regular military either. The Israeli occupying forces are,
[04:00:58] you know, occupying illegally the West Bank. They've hermetically sealed.
[04:01:06] What is this? They want to take, if Hezbollah, you think Hezbollah solely does not, it's not
[04:01:10] all that. They want Jerusalem. Hamas is not innocent family. They want a Muslim al-Quds.
[04:01:14] They want Jerusalem. Buddy. What these militia groups want, whatever you're claiming their
[04:01:28] aspirations are, are also immaterial. Okay? They fight for Islam. Man, shut the fuck up.
[04:01:37] Israel doesn't fight for Judaism and Hamas doesn't fight for Islam. You fucking idiot.
[04:01:42] Hezbollah is a Shia militia force. Why are they defending the Sunni, the largely Sunni Muslim population of
[04:01:50] Palestinians and the Christian population of Palestinians? Why is Hezbollah as a Shia militia force defending Lebanese Christians, for example?
[04:01:59] Again, you have once again shown your perspective is not different than the Channel 14 guys.
[04:02:07] Remember, because the enemy of your enemy is your temporary friend.
[04:02:12] Oh, most progressive Israeli chatters here. There you go. There you go. Here you go. You understand this is why there is
[04:02:20] Genuinely, brother genocidal is fuck. What are you talking about Hamas is genocidal? Has Bola genocidal?
[04:02:27] As opposed to Israel Israel is not genocidal all of the military forces that have
[04:02:33] That have been forced to exist
[04:02:36] forced to develop all of the military resistance, all the military resistance
[04:02:41] against Israel's genocidal actions, against Israel's apartheid, also channel 14's
[04:02:47] genocidal, buddy we're not talking about a fucking television channel, we're
[04:02:50] talking about the Israeli government, we're talking about Zionism. Zionism is a
[04:02:53] definitionally genocidal ideology, okay, so much so that former and maybe even
[04:03:00] current Zionist Israeli Jewish historians are finally coming to terms with
[04:03:04] that reality, right? Even they are now saying like, oh, Zionism wasn't initially
[04:03:10] genocidal from its inception, but now it's becoming genocidal.
[04:03:13] Zionism is in a genocidal ideology at root. Yeah, check back with me in fucking 10 years
[04:03:18] when you talk about how horrible this experience was and how you actually did resist against
[04:03:22] the more genocidal ambitions of the Israeli state when you lie to yourself and your children,
[04:03:27] if you're ever, you know, get to repopulate.
[04:03:33] One day, everyone will have been against this.
[04:03:36] You yourself as well.
[04:03:38] I mean, look at fucking Omar Bartov.
[04:03:42] It took Omar Bartov far too long to finally acknowledge
[04:03:45] as a very important Holocaust scholar to recognize
[04:03:50] that yes, Israel was doing a genocide.
[04:03:52] It took him an even additional year on top of that
[04:03:55] to finally come to terms with the ideology of Zion
[04:03:57] being the underpinning ideology that allowed this genocide to take place where he basically says
[04:04:02] Zionism is now evolving into a genocidal ideology. The reality of the matter is Zionism always was a
[04:04:08] genocidal ideology because it always revolved around ethno-religious supremacist values. It was
[04:04:14] always a fascist ideology and early Jewish thinkers recognized it for what it was. They criticized it,
[04:04:20] but it didn't matter. The scar of the Holocaust was far too great, so many people turned a blind
[04:04:26] died to the genocidal ethnic cleansing actions, genocidal actions of the early
[04:04:31] Zidus brigades. What? Glynasium is in genocidal Israel has to exist? No, there is
[04:04:39] no such thing by the way. There is no such thing. Okay, did Nazi Germany have
[04:04:43] to exist? Did apartheid South Africa have to exist? Did the confederacy have to
[04:04:49] exist? Did they have a right to exist to maintain shadow slavery? No, of course not.
[04:04:54] And neither does Israel in the current genocidal apartheid regime that exists. It's ridiculous
[04:05:03] It's fucking bullshit. I'm not even making like the the whole you know
[04:05:08] Theoretical argument about whether nation-states have a right to exist like it's it's already stupid to begin with
[04:05:13] That thing is this guy's the average liberal left guy in Israel. Unfortunately, that's what I'm saying
[04:05:24] You have no difference in opinion than the fucking channel 14 people that you oppose when it comes to Israeli foreign policy
[04:05:32] That's what we are identifying here and it hurts your feelings to be be painted with such a broad brush
[04:05:37] So, what you have to do in this circumstance is to reconsider your positions about Israeli
[04:05:44] violence, about Israel, the Israeli government's actions in Lebanon and Gaza against Iran.
[04:05:51] It's demands, endless demands to destroy every other fucking sovereign nation in the region
[04:05:56] that could potentially prove as a safeguard against the greater Israel project.
[04:06:02] That's what you have to realize.
[04:06:04] That's what you have to recognize, okay?
[04:06:06] It's your problem.
[04:06:07] not our problem. The rest of the world has already recognized this reality, but the unfortunate
[04:06:12] problem is that there are still people who say dumb fucking bullshit like this. Ben Givir
[04:06:16] doesn't represent Israel. The Israeli, or no, never mind. Sorry, this guy's making a joke about,
[04:06:24] you know, uh, author of reading Lolita in Tehran. Netanyahu's government doesn't represent Israelis.
[04:06:30] Yeah. Ben Givir, Ben Givir doesn't represent Israel. The Israeli government doesn't represent
[04:06:34] Israel. Poles don't represent Israel. Israelis on social media don't represent Israel. The only
[04:06:38] thing that represents Israel, seedless celebs took a trip to Tel Aviv and now understand the Middle
[04:06:42] East. And even then, when they say unbelievably unhinged and genocidal things, okay, then they
[04:06:49] don't represent Israel. Israel is what we decide in any given moment. It's changeable. Sometimes it's
[04:06:55] small bean, sometimes it's the most safe place for Jews, sometimes the least safe place for Jews,
[04:06:59] and therefore it has to be fucking genocidal. Okay? Does anybody know what Israel is supposed
[04:07:05] to fucking represent? I think we've all seen what Israel actually represents, okay? Which
[04:07:14] is a belligerent, genocidal, apartheid nation that is willing to destroy the entire fucking
[04:07:20] planet's energy markets in an effort to achieve one of its military objectives of destroying
[04:07:26] the only sovereign nation in the region, Iran, from being a military deterrence against their
[04:07:32] greater Israel project.
[04:07:36] That's it.
[04:07:38] You can sit around and say, oh, that's anti-Semitic, it's just the fucking reality.
[04:07:42] And if you choose to not reckon with this reality and to change your mentality, then
[04:07:47] you're participating in the fucking belligerents.
[04:07:50] Yeah.
[04:07:52] Greater Israel is an alt alt alt right Israeli opinion. Israel has no intent. Yeah, just like
[04:08:04] liberal Zionist for years and years said, oh, we hate the West Bank settlers. Oh, we hate it.
[04:08:09] It doesn't represent the government's position at all. While simultaneously the government was
[04:08:13] offering material support to the settlers and expanded the West Bank operations to the tune
[04:08:17] 750,000 settlers that destroyed what remains of, destroyed what remains of a fucking potential
[04:08:29] West Bank that could be given to the Palestinians as it was intended by international law, okay?
[04:08:36] What are we doing?
[04:08:37] It's always fucking speaking out of two sides of your goddamn mouth at the same time.
[04:08:42] West Bank isn't greater Israel.
[04:08:43] It doesn't matter if it's a part of greater Israel or not, you fucking idiot.
[04:08:47] What matters is what's happening.
[04:08:49] What matters is what's happening.
[04:08:51] And what's happening is that Israel has destroyed any hope of a two-state solution.
[04:08:58] Oh my God, the West Bank is out of the greater Israel debate, mate.
[04:09:04] Holy fuck.
[04:09:05] What is with this chat?
[04:09:06] It's obsession with Channel 14.
[04:09:07] Ask them who their finance minister is.
[04:09:09] Ask them who their defense minister is.
[04:09:10] I know.
[04:09:13] Go debate your countrymen, okay?
[04:09:17] debate your fucking countrymen you're just trying to you're trying to be like oh you're you're silly
[04:09:22] you're stupid for saying the west bank's part of the greater Israel project it's obviously not good
[04:09:26] well we've seen the fucking patch notes okay it clearly doesn't fucking matter
[04:09:33] what matters is what's happening on the ground pogroms against the Palestinian population
[04:09:38] and and complete defense of the settlers that are engaging in these violent actions
[04:09:44] And sometimes the IDF itself also engaging in the pogroms. Who gives a fuck whether you think it's not a part of it or not?
[04:09:52] I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm actually appreciating time for the debate. Yeah, I'm not stupid.
[04:09:57] Anything if there's one delusional party in this conversation, it's you my friend.
[04:10:02] Delusional enough to think that like the most far-right elements in
[04:10:06] Israeli society do not actually operate as the tip of the spear to give you
[04:10:11] plausible deniability, not even against the rest of the world, because that shit
[04:10:15] doesn't work anymore for the rest of the world, but for you to wash your hands of
[04:10:19] the immorality of the actions of the far-right elements. Oh, it's them doing it.
[04:10:23] Oh, it's the state turning a blind eye to it. It's all fucking bullshit at the end
[04:10:27] of the day, because Israel is consistently engaging in frontierism,
[04:10:31] where they create the next frontier as a justification for Israeli security,
[04:10:37] For Jewish security as a matter of fact, that's what they say. Oh Jews have to be safe
[04:10:42] And that's why we have to take over more and more land from other people. We have to destroy their lives
[04:10:47] We have to burn their crops. We have to engage in ecological terrorism. We have to kill them
[04:10:53] We have to purge them from this land because we the chosen ones have to take this land
[04:10:59] It's a religious extremist psychopathic fascist cult that is unbelievably racist and that's precisely the reason why
[04:11:06] There's not a lot of fucking resistance against it
[04:11:12] Like it's I've brought this up in the past you're correlating two different things
[04:11:16] One is from Israel one is from the alt-right fam brother. It's like saying America is not an alt-right country currently
[04:11:23] What the fuck are you talking about? You think America is not run by the Magikult currently because it is wake the fuck up
[04:11:29] up. It's so stupid, dude. Oh, dude, Adolf Hitler is alone. Nazism is a scourge. Well,
[04:11:37] guess what? In spite of, you know, in spite of the horrifying things that the Nazis did,
[04:11:46] guess what regular German society did? In far higher numbers, they resisted. They got
[04:11:52] killed for it. I don't see that same kind of initiative from Israeli society as a whole.
[04:11:59] There were far larger numbers of regular Germans, socialists, communists, trade unionists alike
[04:12:05] that militarily fought against the Nazi scourge, okay, and they died in the process.
[04:12:10] They got sent to the concentration camps in the process, far larger numbers than Israeli
[04:12:14] society as a whole.
[04:12:17] Where is the Israeli resistance against Israel's fascism?
[04:12:21] There are some, and I give them credit for it, but they're unbelievably limited in their
[04:12:26] numbers.
[04:12:27] walks like a duck, it talks like a duck, then perhaps the duck is fucking fascist.
[04:12:31] You can say it's alright, but I don't see you opposing it.
[04:12:35] As a matter of fact, I see you defending Israel's actions right now in the exact same ways.
[04:12:40] This is like coming to me and being like, oh dude, what are you fucking doing?
[04:12:44] Well, I'm trying to do my very best, okay?
[04:12:46] I'm trying to do my very best to fight back against the fucking Nazi-ass Trump government,
[04:12:51] okay?
[04:12:52] I'm not going to turn around and ever tell someone who's coming in here to be like America
[04:12:57] is a Nazi country to be like, oh, shut the fuck up.
[04:13:00] America has a right to defend itself.
[04:13:02] Get the fuck out of here.
[04:13:06] You are the one who's choosing to defend Israel's actions.
[04:13:10] You have to fix your brain.
[04:13:12] Okay.
[04:13:13] Do you agree with that?
[04:13:17] No, it's because the Democrats are supporting Iran because literally they hate Trump more
[04:13:21] than they love the country.
[04:13:22] I mean, it comes down to that with the quim at some times.
[04:13:25] No, this is not easy.
[04:13:27] Peace is not easy when you have a belligerent country
[04:13:30] and a belligerent leadership like the Israel.
[04:13:33] I mean, the Islam.
[04:13:37] Oops.
[04:13:40] This is like when Chuck Schumer said,
[04:13:42] Israel must never have a right to nuclear arms.
[04:13:46] Israel, we must never allow a nuclear Israel.
[04:13:50] I mean, Iran.
[04:13:51] republic of Iran. But the fact that he wants to sell out the country because they hate Trump so
[04:13:56] much, they want Trump to lose so badly that they don't care about their children or their grandchildren
[04:14:02] or the future of the free world for that matter, I think is very sad. I think it's tragic. It's a
[04:14:07] mar across our nation. But you know, that's one of the challenges of democracy where we have
[04:14:11] have different sides that come in.
[04:14:15] Yeah, Iranian official tells Jeremy that Trump is to blame for Israel strikes on Beirut
[04:14:23] and that he appears simply incapable of reaching an agreement.
[04:14:28] Iranian official tells Jeremy Scahill at this point reaching agreement with Trump is not
[04:14:31] really feasible.
[04:14:32] The primary person responsible for the current situation is Donald Trump himself.
[04:14:36] The Iranian official told me, referring to Israel's massive escalation in its attacks
[04:14:40] against Lebanon and Iran's retaliatory strikes against Israel. Should Israel carry out another
[04:14:44] attack on Beirut in the coming days, missiles will immediately target areas within occupied
[04:14:47] territories in retaliation. For nearly 20 days, the draft of a potential agreement has
[04:14:52] been on Trump's desk, said the official, adding that Trump is driven by his fear of the Israeli
[04:14:56] lobby and his hope that the naval blockade plan will prove effective. Iran will no longer
[04:15:00] accept or tolerate his current position. This is a seismic shift in the Iranian attitudes.
[04:15:07] I have wondered out loud as to why Iran had not actually struck back against Israel in
[04:15:13] an effort to reestablish its deterrence, and in an effort to also force Trump's hand into
[04:15:20] restraining Israel.
[04:15:22] Now it's happened.
[04:15:24] Now we wait.
[04:15:25] Now we see if Donald Trump actually is sincere about potentially restraining Israel, or if
[04:15:33] war is back on the menu, like full scale outright war, not dissimilar to what we saw with the
[04:15:39] endless bombing campaigns. Tritta also says, he's been posting up a fucking storm on a
[04:15:47] sub stack. There's a surprising level of surprise in the West. The Iran was serious about its
[04:15:51] demand for a region wide ceasefire and that would act against Israel if it continued
[04:15:55] attacking Lebanon. Yeah, this is what happens. Anytime Iran goes, Hey, we're that we're 1000
[04:16:01] old culture and nation, we really value diplomacy. We are going to do diplomacy.
[04:16:07] The western barbarians look at that situation and go, oh, these guys are pussies, bro. They're
[04:16:12] so scared of the smoke. So they're literally forced to take action like this over and over again.
[04:16:19] It's so funny that this keeps happening. This is literally what happened during Operation Epstein's
[04:16:25] fury. We are at the 100th day of Operation Epstein's Fury. 100 days ago, America and
[04:16:33] Israel miscalculated Iranian strategic patience and strategic restraint as weakness. And they
[04:16:41] engage in the act of perfidy once again, as they had done so in the 12-day war. Okay? This
[04:16:47] forced Iran's hand in the aftermath of the assassination and the decapitation strikes
[04:16:52] against his leadership in the min-op school strike that killed 150 plus little school
[04:16:56] girls going to school, Iran realized that they had to implement the mosaic defense system,
[04:17:02] which they very successfully implemented, and start striking the Gulf and close the
[04:17:08] Strait of Hormuz and start striking Israel directly. This was incredibly effective.
[04:17:14] Okay, it showed the rest of the world that America was a paper tiger and that it did
[04:17:19] not have the capacity to defend any of these other countries with the exception of Israel
[04:17:23] and it was barely, barely doing a decent job defending Israel as well.
[04:17:29] Now that there's been some semblance of a ceasefire or there's been significant restrictions
[04:17:35] on the tit for tat strikes between America, Israel and Iran, all of a sudden they forgot.
[04:17:42] They forgot about the Iranian capabilities.
[04:17:52] The most interesting part of the poll is Israelis don't care about regime changes when
[04:17:55] they wreck Iran.
[04:17:58] Nearly a quarter, 22% believe in full regime collapse in Iran is achievable.
[04:18:02] A solid 77% of the campaign's purpose is clear to them.
[04:18:08] And remember Iran still holds certain cards at its disposal that it has not even deployed
[04:18:14] like shutting off Bab el-Mandab on the other side completely crippling international logistics.
[04:18:20] Okay?
[04:18:21] They haven't done so yet.
[04:18:23] They haven't not, remember, they have not deployed the Ansarullah movement in the Red
[04:18:29] Sea.
[04:18:33] It's actually insane.
[04:18:36] It's actually insane that they have yet to do that.
[04:18:42] And America and Israel are still behaving like they have significant capabilities to
[04:18:48] destroy the Iranian military that they simply haven't deployed.
[04:18:52] They deployed everything and it failed.
[04:18:56] Okay.
[04:18:58] Yeah, I suspect China probably doesn't want them to close Bob Oman Deb.
[04:19:05] But again, Iran is a sovereign nation in a very stubborn country in terms of its own
[04:19:10] sovereignty, in terms of defending its own sovereignty.
[04:19:13] I'm willing to bet they would even tell China like, sorry, they forced our hand to do this.
[04:19:28] Not to mention US bases were not prepared for this and only had the defense against
[04:19:31] a VB VB IED and DOD knew this and they went ahead with the attacks anyway. Yes. Not only
[04:19:37] they go ahead with the attacks, they also pulled out their fucking troops and there was a tremendous
[04:19:42] amount of loss of radar systems and numerous other, uh, numerous other expensive equipment.
[04:19:49] There were people that died in the process to like activity service members that died
[04:19:52] in the process that couldn't actually fucking escape in time.
[04:20:07] Trump tells Financial Time that Israel would have no choice but to accept whatever the
[04:20:09] deal the US negotiates with Iran.
[04:20:11] He won't have any choice.
[04:20:12] I call the shots.
[04:20:13] I call all the shots.
[04:20:14] He in any hour doesn't call the shots.
[04:20:22] Trump still has more to play nukes, or do you think he wouldn't use them?
[04:20:26] I feel like the entire purpose, the entire purpose of nukes is to never use them.
[04:20:34] Once you use them, the world changes permanently, okay?
[04:20:41] Anyway, why?
[04:20:46] Why Tehran was dead serious about forcing Israel to stop his attacks on Lebanon and how
[04:20:50] it might respond?
[04:20:51] reason Iran's insistence on defending Lebanon has surprised Western observers may lie in their
[04:20:56] erroneous belief that Hezbollah is nothing but an Iranian proxy. Indeed, Hezbollah is consistently
[04:21:00] described in Western discourse as an Iranian proxy, and it appears that this statement was genuinely
[04:21:04] believed by Western observers. So if the belief is that Hezbollah is no more than a proxy,
[04:21:09] it also becomes more difficult to take Iranian threats that it will defend Lebanon seriously.
[04:21:13] A proxy, after all, is a piece of the chessboard whose faith almost invariably is to be sacrificed
[04:21:18] or consume. Iran will surely risk regional war to defend its queen on the chessboard,
[04:21:24] but would it do the same for upon Western observers ask themselves?
[04:21:28] Hold on, I gotta fucking fix my glasses, I can't read without them.
[04:21:35] But if from the outset the nuanced relationship between Hezbollah and Iran was more properly understood
[04:21:46] truly beneficial alliance in which Tehran clearly is the bigger party, but not one that
[04:21:49] can simply issue dictats for his beloved to follow. Iran's warnings against continued
[04:21:53] Israeli attacks on Lebanon would likely have been taken more seriously.
[04:21:57] Yet another example of how the simplistic and un-nuanced understanding of Iran's geopolitical
[04:22:01] calculations of perspectives perpetuated in the Washington discourse ultimately undermines
[04:22:05] U.S. interests and America's ability to calibrate optimal moves in the region.
[04:22:11] This also is because of our understanding of our proxies, okay?
[04:22:17] Like, for example, Ukraine, Ukraine against Russia has been deployed as an American proxy,
[04:22:24] even though it was of course unjustifiably and illegally invaded by Russia, okay?
[04:22:32] America has no investment in preserving Ukrainian lives or livelihood, okay?
[04:22:37] They don't care.
[04:22:38] the fucking sleeve that they put their fists through, all right?
[04:22:43] Cards are another great example of this.
[04:22:46] Proxies under American leadership are always dumped when their usefulness has been outlived.
[04:22:54] Okay.
[04:22:56] For Iran, the relationship between Iran and Hezbollah is a little bit different.
[04:23:03] Partially because Iran has to live in this region, right?
[04:23:06] Iran has to live in this region with Israel and Hezbollah is right there next to Israel.
[04:23:16] And therefore, the value that Hezbollah has to Iran is far greater than the value that Ukraine has to the United States of America.
[04:23:27] Or especially the Kurdish militias have to the United States of America. There's no value at the end of the day
[04:23:35] In in you know maintaining some sort of defensive posture or burning credibility for the Kurds
[04:23:40] That's why America will always dump the Kurds at the end of the day
[04:23:46] At the behest of Turkish interests like they'll just say all right Turks go ahead go off Kings and Queens do whatever the fuck you want
[04:23:57] Thank you, no.
[04:24:18] Month nuclear family month cancelled.
[04:24:21] Yeah, this is also here.
[04:24:23] This is Mark Dubowitz.
[04:24:25] Okay.
[04:24:26] FDD guy, remember, FDD Foundation for Defending Democracy, which is of course the only democracy.
[04:24:34] When they say Foundation for Defending Democracy, they mean the only democracy on the planet,
[04:24:37] which is Israel, an Israeli government cut out that operates without any restrictions
[04:24:44] on U.S. soil and literally has its own agents in the negotiations process inside of the
[04:24:51] room.
[04:24:52] Dibbowitz says exactly the wrong reaction. Trey Yinks spoke with President Trump. We'll
[04:24:58] have more on Fox News in a few minutes. Exactly the wrong reaction if you want to deal. The
[04:25:04] regime believes it can attack US forces and US allies. That consequence, that weakens
[04:25:08] the terrorist, encourages further aggression and makes a deal less likely. President Trump
[04:25:11] should let Israel impose severe costs. Okay. That's what the FTD guy just said. Let's see
[04:25:19] what he said shortly thereafter. Will President Trump finally recognize that there's no acceptable
[04:25:24] deal to be had with the jihadist theocracy committed to mass martyrdom and mass destruction?
[04:25:27] He needs to. And soon, the alternative is clear. Maximum support for millions of Iranians
[04:25:31] who want to bring down the regime and are already back on the streets. Their numbers
[04:25:33] will grow. Trump should stand with them.
[04:25:36] Also, you don't want to have a deal with the theocracy. You can't have a deal with the
[04:25:40] theocracy. Got it?
[04:25:41] If you would support a deal that includes Iran getting access to that money.
[04:25:46] Well, I'm not in the room to understand what the leverage points are.
[04:25:51] The fact that Iran is doing this sends the signal that they're trying to get some of
[04:25:55] their leverage back, and they're making these decisions.
[04:25:57] So it's hard for me to say, this should happen or that should happen.
[04:26:01] I was really and have been really critical of the way the Obama administration dealt
[04:26:06] with this.
[04:26:07] Listen, they sent boatloads of money to Iran.
[04:26:10] Next thing you know, we've got their terrorist-funded cells in Gaza, Hamas, attacking and butchering
[04:26:16] We saw what happened in Hezbollah on the northern Israel border, the Houthis.
[04:26:22] Listen, all of that funded by Iran.
[04:26:24] And so any time you talk about giving them any kind of money, you've got to understand
[04:26:28] what they're planning to use it for, unless we can assure ourselves and our country and
[04:26:33] our countrymen that that's not going to happen.
[04:26:34] But I'm not at a position to be able to understand all the different things and play here right
[04:26:39] now at this moment.
[04:26:40] But it does sound like giving Iran access to those billions of dollars is concerning
[04:26:47] to you, that you don't like the idea of Iran getting access to billions of dollars that
[04:26:52] had previously been frozen.
[04:26:54] Well, I don't trust them.
[04:26:57] I don't trust their regime.
[04:26:59] I don't trust the way that they had even dealt with this.
[04:27:03] We don't even know sometimes who we're dealing with.
[04:27:05] But ultimately, I want peace.
[04:27:07] I want the straight opened.
[04:27:08] I want gas prices to come down, but I also don't want to cut and run, and I don't want
[04:27:12] to under a constant threat of a nuclear or a dirty bomb on our soil from this world-sponsor
[04:27:18] of terrorism.
[04:27:19] And so, you know, like, I want everything at the same time.
[04:27:21] I want our national security protected.
[04:27:24] I don't want Iran funding Hamas, the Houthis, or Hezbollah.
[04:27:29] I don't want them to have a nuclear weapon, and I certainly don't want them to have a
[04:27:32] dirty bomb.
[04:27:33] Can I have all those things wrapped up in one box?
[04:27:36] I think it's possible.
[04:27:37] I think that's what President Trump has said he's trying to do.
[04:27:40] I'm not in the room negotiating right now, but he's been pretty clear we don't want
[04:27:45] to live this way anymore, and if we don't deal with the Iranians in this way, we're
[04:27:49] going to do it for another 50 years.
[04:27:51] The President did an interview with NBC News, and during that interview, a couple things
[04:27:55] I want to ask you about.
[04:27:56] But first of them, he pushed back on the assertion that he's broken a cabinet promise
[04:28:01] to take him to the U.S. out of the U.S...
[04:28:02] He just said he hated it, though.
[04:28:03] He's called the JCPOA.
[04:28:05] war, Kristen Welker pushing back and saying that he had said that as he campaigned.
[04:28:13] You continue to hold town halls, and you're one of the few Congress people still doing
[04:28:18] this, as you're talking to your constituents.
[04:28:20] Do you think voters you're talking to agree with the president on that?
[04:28:25] Listen, I think there are some that under, you know, what I will say, and that's a very
[04:28:29] good question, what I've noticed is that older voters, people that have been dealing
[04:28:34] with a terrorist regime in Iran since 1979. They're kind of done with them. They want
[04:28:40] this. They want Iran not capable of generating a nuclear bomb. Younger voters.
[04:28:48] Doug, what, what Nebraska has been dealing with Tehran?
[04:28:56] Who to them? You know, I'm under the opinion that TikTok is spreading anti-Semitic hate
[04:29:02] every single day. I've seen it with young people. I go into classrooms and I talk to
[04:29:08] seniors that are graduated. I'm not saying all of them, but there is this anti-Israel
[04:29:15] messaging that is pervasive among younger people. And I think it's dangerous. And so I really kind
[04:29:21] of draw a distinction between older voters and younger voters. I'm not saying they're all the
[04:29:27] same. Certainly I recognize also that prices are high and that's in way in
[04:29:32] part tied to the straight being closed so that creates frustration and I'm the
[04:29:37] first to say gas prices are too high we have to bring them down but we also can't
[04:29:41] cut and run and continue to fund terrorism by giving Iran a bunch of money
[04:29:46] so they can continue to to prop up the Houthis the Hezbollah and Hamas. One
[04:29:51] other thing about that interview I wanted to ask you is that the president
[04:29:54] abruptly ended it when they started talking about the election and he
[04:30:00] Yeah, David Ellison famously bought tiktok
[04:30:04] and as the
[04:30:06] Largest donor to the friends of the IDF charity. He actually continued the tiktok anti-semitism and anti-Israel sentiment
[04:30:15] Foral process is that appropriate for the president of the United States?
[04:30:19] Well, first of all, I didn't see the interview, and I'm being honest there.
[04:30:23] I was at the Nebraska-Catamels Ball very late last night, and before that I was at the
[04:30:27] State Republican Convention where we are united more than we've ever been in Nebraska, and
[04:30:34] between church and then other commitments, I haven't seen it.
[04:30:37] But I will say, the President has an unconventional style.
[04:30:40] He's always had an unconventional style with the media.
[04:30:43] I'm not going to weigh in one side or the other on something that I haven't seen.
[04:30:46] He unconventionally escaped questions from Meet the President.
[04:30:50] Phil, Joe Biden is and was the duly elected president of the United States.
[04:30:54] Joe Biden.
[04:30:55] And in 2024, the duly elected president is Donald J. Trump.
[04:31:00] I'm focused on moving forward.
[04:31:01] I'm focused on affordability, housing affordability, working a bipartisan housing bill through
[04:31:07] the Congress.
[04:31:08] And most, all of my colleagues, I think on both sides of the aisle, are looking forward
[04:31:13] to a housing bill passing.
[04:31:15] So that's been my focus.
[04:31:16] I do have a clip.
[04:31:17] I will play it for you.
[04:31:19] Here's a small clip.
[04:31:20] Ooh.
[04:31:22] Nice.
[04:31:23] You have elections in this country.
[04:31:24] We're like a third world country.
[04:31:26] Your elections are crooked and you're crooked
[04:31:29] and these depressors crooked.
[04:31:31] And so is ABC and CBS and CNN.
[04:31:35] No, Mr. President.
[04:31:36] You're one sided crooked network.
[04:31:37] So let's call it a quiz.
[04:31:38] Cause I don't know.
[04:31:39] Thank you, darling.
[04:31:40] Have a good day.
[04:31:43] You see there again.
[04:31:44] That's a short bit of it, but your elections are crooked,
[04:31:47] is what he said.
[04:31:48] Dog, he said CBS is crooked.
[04:31:51] Like, what more can CBS do?
[04:31:52] We've had very fair elections,
[04:31:54] and we've duly elected both President Donald Trump,
[04:31:57] and to your point, President Joe Biden,
[04:31:59] and then Donald Trump again.
[04:32:03] Does that not concern you that he continues
[04:32:05] to spread those false statements?
[04:32:09] I'll tell you, just yesterday
[04:32:10] at the State Republican Convention,
[04:32:11] We had a speaker, the co-chair of the RNC,
[04:32:15] and she brought forward a lot of credible numbers
[04:32:18] about the number of poll watchers
[04:32:20] that indicated different problems throughout the country
[04:32:22] that were obviously remedied on election day back in 2025,
[04:32:27] but, or 2024.
[04:32:29] So to say that we don't have,
[04:32:30] even in Nebraska, I think we had three or four people
[04:32:34] prosecuted for varying forms of election fraud
[04:32:36] on a pretty small level.
[04:32:38] I know this, the elections in Nebraska,
[04:32:40] They're safe, they're sound, I trust them.
[04:32:42] We have great systems in place to ensure that.
[04:32:46] I do worry about cities like Detroit, Chicago,
[04:32:49] places where they've historically
[04:32:50] had all sorts of different kinds of ballot harvesting.
[04:32:54] And quite frankly, look at California right now.
[04:32:57] California's still counting ballots.
[04:33:00] That isn't so when I grew up.
[04:33:02] They are, they have a very specific system
[04:33:04] of mail-in ballots that they're allowed to process.
[04:33:07] But it's not fraud.
[04:33:09] it's a it's a different way of doing it
[04:33:12] you know what i don't know how they don't know who won on election night and i
[04:33:17] think seventy percent of americans thinks that things that though that's the
[04:33:20] way it should work like there's a deadline there's an election day
[04:33:24] you count the ballots you announced the winner
[04:33:26] when you are still counting ballots for days weeks after the election i just
[04:33:29] think it
[04:33:30] it uh... depreciates the confidence that americans have in different systems and
[04:33:36] we're gonna find out here in a couple weeks what the supreme court says about
[04:33:39] that. I think that's a right issue in front of the court right now, and I hope they say
[04:33:43] that Election Day is an election day. You get your vote in on Election Day and you
[04:33:46] count it. We don't play these games for weeks thereafter.
[04:33:49] Yeah, and just to note, in California, you are allowed to mail in your ballot. It can
[04:33:54] be postmarked on Election Day. It then is good, so it takes a while for the post office to get it.
[04:33:59] They then do all of the verification on the back end once they receive that ballot,
[04:34:03] so it can take some time. But Congressman Mike Flood, we really do appreciate your time.
[04:34:07] Thank you for being here today.
[04:34:09] Thank you very much. Have a good weekend. What's left of it? You too. Thank you. Thank you
[04:34:12] We are learning new information about Iran's missile attack on Israel. We're gonna take you live to Jerusalem. That's next
[04:34:31] Jews impose
[04:34:33] Sighting sources Israel respond to Iran and is still studying the timing and
[04:34:38] scale of the response. Yeah, keep studying.
[04:34:42] Spotted an Israeli telegram. Oh my god, Biden would have been better.
[04:34:51] Oh my god. I'm gonna be honest. I don't think I've ever heard anyone from Israel
[04:34:58] say that. Oh my God. By the way, incredible babies, okay? Like genuinely incredible babies,
[04:35:11] Israel the biggest baby society of all time. Better talking head on CNN. I am okay Trudeau.
[04:35:19] to follow breaking news just into CNN.
[04:35:21] The Israeli military has said it intercepted incoming ballistic missiles from Iran for
[04:35:27] what appears to be the first time since early April.
[04:35:31] With us now is CNN military analyst retired Air Force Colonel Cedric Layton.
[04:35:36] Also, the founder and former president of the National Iranian American Council, Trita
[04:35:40] Parsi.
[04:35:41] Great to see both of you.
[04:35:42] Trita, I want to begin with you.
[04:35:45] In your view, ultimately, what precipitated Iran to fire these missiles into Israel for
[04:35:53] the first time since this peace agreement or ceasefire went into effect early April?
[04:36:01] The U.S. and Iran have been negotiating.
[04:36:03] The Iranian position has been that any ceasefire has to be region-wide, meaning that it cannot
[04:36:08] just be between the U.S. and Iran, but Israel also needs to stop its bombardment of Lebanon.
[04:36:13] And I think the Trump administration took that very seriously.
[04:36:15] That's part of the reason why there was that phone call that Trump had with Netanyahu and
[04:36:20] rather colorful phone call.
[04:36:22] And there was a push by the U.S. to push back the Israelis.
[04:36:25] But yesterday, these Israelis struck at, or actually just a couple hours ago, they struck
[04:36:29] at Beirut, the specific area in Beirut that is also very sensitive to Iranians.
[04:36:35] And Iranians had warned that they would respond if that took place.
[04:36:38] And now it appears that they have at least four waves of missiles have been shot at Israel.
[04:36:43] And now Trump is stepping in and saying that he does not want to see Netanyahu strike back.
[04:36:49] Now we haven't confirmed that the president has stepped in, but you are hearing through
[04:36:53] your sources that the president has reached out to the Israeli leadership and in response
[04:36:59] to Israeli leadership saying it will have a powerful, quote unquote powerful response
[04:37:05] to Iran.
[04:37:08] It has been reported by other outlets that Trump has at least said that he will do this.
[04:37:14] And I think this has always been the question mark.
[04:37:16] If the Israeli-Iranian rivalry flares up again, will the U.S. re-enter that war or will it
[04:37:22] stay out?
[04:37:24] And I think if it is true that Trump is going to tell the Israelis to back off, do not continue
[04:37:29] this, that is the right call, because you cannot allow the Israelis or the Iranians
[04:37:33] to ensure that their rivalry takes the U.S. hostage
[04:37:37] and forces the U.S. back into war,
[04:37:39] that it does not want to be part of any longer.
[04:37:42] Trita, is this a setback or is this more of the same?
[04:37:48] No, this is absolutely a setback.
[04:37:51] We shouldn't be in this situation at all.
[04:37:53] If diplomacy had been done somewhat differently,
[04:37:55] I think we could have avoided this in all of our times.
[04:37:57] Cut Israel out, say it on CNN.
[04:37:59] It may have to be a turning point in the sense
[04:38:01] that now it becomes very clear
[04:38:02] what happens if there isn't a deal.
[04:38:05] And that may sharpen the focus of every side
[04:38:07] to make sure that they actually get across the goal line.
[04:38:10] But there are a lot of challenges in the talks
[04:38:13] and almost all of them go back to the deep,
[04:38:15] deep mistrust that exists between the two sides.
[04:38:26] Since when did we just start accepting
[04:38:28] what a habitual liar says is fact, what, Trump?
[04:38:32] We don't.
[04:38:36] What, what should I saying has just been confirmed?
[04:38:42] Yeah, me when I call the shots financial times I call the shots I call the shots he
[04:38:46] doesn't call the shots.
[04:38:49] Yeah, we believe you big dog for sure, for sure.
[04:38:55] Um, definitely totally believable.
[04:39:02] Anyway, um, I gotta watch this fucking
[04:39:10] By the way
[04:39:13] At the behest of Israel the ceasefire is violated again Israel's being shot at
[04:39:18] Every other news outlet is talking about how Donald Trump has to do a forceful response here
[04:39:23] Donald Trump has to reign in Israel potentially
[04:39:26] What is Fox News talking about exposing the truth Ron Johnson?
[04:39:30] Wisconsin Senator slams Biden health officials over COVID safety
[04:39:37] Anyway, let's watch the full Trump interview with meet the press where he basically fucking walked away because he's a bitch
[04:39:44] Good morning today marks 100 days since the United States launched the first strikes against Iran
[04:39:50] Midterm pressures are growing with no clear end to the war in sight on Friday
[04:39:56] President Trump took his case to war with the American military.
[04:39:59] Can't believe you're getting mugged.
[04:40:00] Yeah, I am.
[04:40:01] At the invitation of the White House, we joined him at Custer Farms and had a wide-ranging
[04:40:07] interview that was unfortunately interrupted multiple times by the stormy weather overhead.
[04:40:16] President Trump, welcome back to Meet the Press.
[04:40:17] Thank you.
[04:40:18] Thank you so much for being here.
[04:40:21] We are going to talk about your visit while you're here in Wisconsin, but I'd like to
[04:40:25] start off by talking about the major issue that you are focused on every day, which is
[04:40:31] Iran.
[04:40:32] Sunday will mark 100 days since the first strikes.
[04:40:36] Your Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, said that the war had concluded, and yet just this
[04:40:41] week Iran attacked U.S. allies in the region, calling it retaliation for a set of U.S. airstrikes.
[04:40:48] Is the United States at war with Iran?
[04:40:50] Well, they've been largely decapitated and I call it a military exorcise because people would rather have it called that. It's not a big war for us.
[04:41:03] He looks like absolute dog shit.
[04:41:12] How does he seemingly get worse every time we see him?
[04:41:15] We're the most powerful military in the world.
[04:41:20] I built it, frankly.
[04:41:21] I built it in my first four years, and I'm using it a little bit in my second four years.
[04:41:28] Their Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their anti-aircraft is gone.
[04:41:32] They might have built it up a little bit over the last four weeks during this little ceasefire
[04:41:36] that we did in the request of some very good people, very, very fine people from, actually
[04:41:43] from numerous places as you know you know there are a lot of people involved but from
[04:41:47] Pakistan in particular the Field Marshal and the Prime Minister and we're very close to
[04:41:54] having a deal and if we don't have a deal we'll do it one way or the other either way
[04:41:58] we win.
[04:41:59] I do want to talk about the terms of any potential deal in just a moment but let me just follow
[04:42:05] up with you.
[04:42:06] You did post on social media just this week my final negotiations to end the war with
[04:42:12] the Islamic Republic of Iran, there is a naval blockade in place, which technically is an
[04:42:19] active war under international law.
[04:42:22] So is this a war as long as there's a naval blockade in place?
[04:42:26] Well, we have a blockade.
[04:42:27] It's been extremely effective.
[04:42:29] And the reason we have it is they try to blockade and now we blockaded them.
[04:42:33] And as you know, they're losing $400 to $500 million a day.
[04:42:36] It's not sustainable for them.
[04:42:38] They have an economy that's shot in addition to everything else.
[04:42:42] The leaders are gone, the generals are gone, the first tier and second tier are gone.
[04:42:46] Much of their third tier is gone.
[04:42:48] But they put up a blockade, and so we blockaded them, and we have the ultimate blockade.
[04:42:53] I don't consider that a war, but if you want to define it as such, I guess you can.
[04:42:57] Well, how do you define it?
[04:42:59] I don't define it at all.
[04:43:00] I don't think about it.
[04:43:01] I just do what I have to do.
[04:43:03] If you're not specifically calling it a war, would you consider sending some of the troops
[04:43:07] who were stationed there, who were sent because of Operation Epic Fury at their home.
[04:43:13] Would you consider sending them home if it's not technically a war?
[04:43:18] We don't need as many troops.
[04:43:19] I think you just like...
[04:43:20] Okay, I'm not gonna lie.
[04:43:24] She's unironically doing a good job.
[04:43:26] I don't know how...
[04:43:27] I don't know if my eyes are deceiving me, if my ears are hearing the wrong information,
[04:43:32] so far, so far so good. She's two for two, which now makes me realize exactly why he
[04:43:44] left by the end of this interview, because if she keeps up this energy for like the next
[04:43:49] 10 minutes, this thing is going to fucking fall off the rails. Okay. If it's not a war,
[04:43:57] Will you pull out the troops?
[04:43:59] Great question.
[04:44:00] I think it's on the terror on the side of caution.
[04:44:04] We have a lot of people there, they're very safe.
[04:44:08] You know, if you think we beat Venezuela, we lost nobody, we took over the whole country,
[04:44:13] we lost nobody.
[04:44:14] We have a great relationship, by the way, with Venezuela.
[04:44:16] Steyer Bros, it might be Stey over from Vote Hub, Winkast Update, Hilton's chance of advancing
[04:44:23] California's governor's raise rose from 85% to 93% after Steyer again fell short of his
[04:44:29] needed marks on Saturday. The aggregate drops were roughly as expected, but with more votes in,
[04:44:35] uncertainties shrinking and Hilton remains clearly favored.
[04:44:38] We've lost 13 people here and that's a lot, 13 people, too many, but if you look at Vietnam
[04:44:57] where hundreds of thousands of people were killed, if you look at any one of the last
[04:45:03] seven or eight wars where many, many people killed. We lost 13. And again, 13 is too many.
[04:45:10] I don't want to lose any, but 13 is less than anybody's ever even envisioned. I think we're
[04:45:16] doing a great job. But so are you saying you would consider sending some of the troops home,
[04:45:20] sir? Some of the 50,000? He's like 13 is nothing, bro. I killed 13 troops and forget about it.
[04:45:26] it. That's kind of crazy because wasn't that the rallying cry for Joe Biden, how he allowed
[04:45:34] 13 troops to fucking die when they were exiting Kabul, Kabul gate? Literally, that was the
[04:45:46] whole thing. Remember when conservatives would put like, they would pour like beers,
[04:45:50] Empty beers, 13 of them, they would say 13 of our best and Benghazi too, but Benghazi
[04:45:59] is, you know, nobody gives a shit about Benghazi anymore.
[04:46:02] But yeah, Hillary with Benghazi, Joe Biden with the 13 of our best troops dying in Kabul.
[04:46:07] Meanwhile, Donald Trump literally is like, yeah, 13 of them died.
[04:46:11] Who cares?
[04:46:12] Who gives a fuck?
[04:46:13] L, L for them.
[04:46:16] But they knew how to duck and dodge, they would have been able to survive the Iranian
[04:46:21] drones.
[04:46:29] I like my war heroes who don't die to the Shahad drones.
[04:46:33] That's right, they're losers.
[04:46:34] They failed me.
[04:46:35] They should have.
[04:46:36] They should have eaten the drone and been fine.
[04:46:38] I would have been fine.
[04:46:41] Troops were sent there as a part of operation that secures.
[04:46:45] It costs us very little to keep them there.
[04:46:48] I don't consider them in danger.
[04:46:49] We're the best defense anyone's ever seen.
[04:46:51] We're the best offense anyone's ever seen.
[04:46:53] So I don't consider it danger.
[04:46:55] I would say it would be foolhardy to do that
[04:46:57] because maybe we may use them.
[04:46:58] It's unlikely, but I think we'll keep them there
[04:47:01] until such time as we have a completion.
[04:47:04] And when we have a completion,
[04:47:06] you will see things like you've never seen.
[04:47:08] The oil will go down.
[04:47:10] The stock market already, as you know,
[04:47:11] it's hit an all-time high.
[04:47:13] Even in the midst of it, it hit all-time high.
[04:47:15] Yeah, look, funny because this is what he said about the 13 service members killed during
[04:47:23] the withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021.
[04:47:26] This is the third anniversary of the botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
[04:47:29] The most embarrassing moment of the history of our country, gross incompetence, 13 dead
[04:47:32] American soldiers, hundreds of people wounded in debt, Americans and billions of dollars
[04:47:37] of military equipment left behind.
[04:47:39] You don't take our soldiers out first, you take them out last.
[04:47:42] And all else is successfully done, Russia that invaded Ukraine, Israel was attacked
[04:47:45] and the USA became and is a laughing stock all over the world.
[04:47:49] Fake news media remain silent in order to protect the worst administration in the history
[04:47:52] of our country, MAGA 2024.
[04:48:05] Back then it was 13 of our best.
[04:48:06] Now it's 13 of our worst because Trump killed them.
[04:48:09] 73 all-time highs in a short period of time that I've been in office, which is a record by the way and
[04:48:17] You know we're doing very well, but the main thing is we cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon
[04:48:23] Can't do it. I want to you just referenced the 13 Americans who were killed and one
[04:48:31] Want to know what your red line is what would trigger you to restart?
[04:48:36] military action. Would it be Iran killing more American citizens?
[04:48:41] Well, certainly that would be something that I would think about very seriously, but...
[04:48:45] Oh, my God.
[04:48:46] ...the red line would be...
[04:48:47] Oh, my God. He literally is not even committing to restarting the war if American soldiers
[04:48:53] or civilians get killed. Oh, my God. Oh, he's so good. Yo, he won't even posture? He won't
[04:49:03] He won't even posture god damn like I said and I will keep repeating this the IRGC is the most powerful anti-trump the most successful anti-trump force
[04:49:14] On the planet currently it's not the Democratic Party
[04:49:19] Straight up it's the IRGC perhaps more powerful than even China honestly
[04:49:25] Yeah, if I think I wasn't going to make a deal or if I wasn't gonna make a deal fast enough
[04:49:29] So, we're having very good negotiations with the people that are leading the country now.
[04:49:34] It's the third group that we've been dealing with, and they are different.
[04:49:39] And you could say it's regime change, actually, because these are very different people.
[04:49:43] I find it would be more rational, very smart.
[04:49:47] Who is that? Who's leading the country?
[04:49:49] Well, I don't know their names, but you know who they are.
[04:49:50] I mean, they're leaders. They're respected.
[04:49:52] They're respected by the people that have to respect them.
[04:49:56] They are calling the shots. We know that because we see it through various tests that we've given.
[04:50:03] It's a little bit strange because you have leaders that have been there for a long time and they get wiped out.
[04:50:09] Then you have leaders that you also know, the second tier, and they get wiped out.
[04:50:12] All of a sudden we're dealing with different people.
[04:50:15] But no, I think that we'll either have something done fairly quickly or we'll finish it out militarily.
[04:50:22] Are you talking about the son of the Supreme?
[04:50:25] supreme well he's a part of it he has not been seen in public what is his status
[04:50:29] have you talked to him directly I do believe they have great respect for him
[04:50:33] I have I see it I mean they want to get his concurrence they've said to me they've
[04:50:40] said to others that they're looking for approval and he is part of the approval
[04:50:45] process absolutely have you spoken to him directly you said you want to meet
[04:50:49] with him I would if you'd like to but I am not spoken to him directly do you know
[04:50:54] I would tell you, they do pay homage to him, I would tell you if they didn't, they seemed
[04:51:02] to, based on what I see, they seem to respect a great deal.
[04:51:07] Do you know where he is?
[04:51:08] Do you know how he is doing physically?
[04:51:09] I don't want to say whether or not I know where he is, but there's a good probability
[04:51:14] that I do.
[04:51:15] Is he inside Iran?
[04:51:16] I'd rather not say that.
[04:51:18] Okay, he is the son of the last supreme leader who was obviously hard-liner.
[04:51:23] Is this younger Comanie any better for the United States than his father was?
[04:51:28] Younger? I think more rational.
[04:51:33] Injured? That's pretty...
[04:51:34] Gay!
[04:51:37] Happy Pride Month! I have it on good authority that he's gay. Not me though, I'm not.
[04:51:42] I just like Andrew Lloyd Webber. That's not gay.
[04:51:47] Broadway musicals are beautiful. They used to be until woke killed it badly injured
[04:51:53] So there's a certain bravery there a lot of people if they were injured that badly
[04:51:58] They wouldn't be talking about you know, how we doing with the United States. They have other things on their mind
[04:52:03] So there's a certain bravery there, but he is very seriously injured. Yeah
[04:52:09] What I think it's really funny
[04:52:11] That this guy is talking about like how gravely wounded and injured other foreign government's
[04:52:20] heads of state are.
[04:52:22] Dude, you literally look like death itself.
[04:52:28] It's actually remarkable how much the MAGA cult refuses to recognize how wounded Trump
[04:52:35] looks.
[04:52:36] Sincerely, he looks like a wounded bird all the time.
[04:52:43] He looks like a fucking melting wax puppet.
[04:52:47] Look at him.
[04:52:49] What is the status of talks exactly in this moment?
[04:52:52] How close are you to making a deal?
[04:52:54] Are we talking about days, weeks, months, Mr. President?
[04:52:56] I think we're very close.
[04:52:57] We have a couple of points.
[04:52:59] They don't even seem like big points.
[04:53:01] They've conceded the fact that they will not have nuclear weapons.
[04:53:04] We had a clause in there that we will not develop nuclear weapons and everybody was very happy with it except me and I said, well, what happens if they not develop, but they go out and purchase, they acquire.
[04:53:19] I want to put the word, if they buy or purchase or acquire, you know, they've got to have that in there too because that's not developing.
[04:53:27] So they don't have the right to develop or purchase, acquire or buy.
[04:53:31] Have they pushed back against that? Is that one of the sticking points?
[04:53:34] A little bit, and then they didn't.
[04:53:37] You have been saying for months, Mr. President, that Iran is begging to make a deal.
[04:53:42] True.
[04:53:43] They are so desperate to make a deal. Why haven't they made a deal with you yet?
[04:53:46] Because it's a very hard thing for them. They've had great independence.
[04:53:51] They've dealt with very weak and ineffective leadership on behalf of the United States
[04:53:56] United States and other countries frankly that were that allowed them to get
[04:54:01] away with murder and I don't I think they can't believe they're in the
[04:54:05] situation where they've been virtually decapitated. But if they're so desperate
[04:54:10] Mr. President why haven't they said yes to the terms you're proposing?
[04:54:15] Ha, ha, ha.
[04:54:17] Oh, God, it's just a wait.
[04:54:20] So they're strong, but they're weak.
[04:54:26] Well, what the fuck? Oh.
[04:54:30] Accidentally, ended up muting myself again.
[04:54:33] They're strong, but they're weak.
[04:54:36] They're strong, but they're weak.
[04:54:39] Let's see. Let's see where he goes with this.
[04:54:40] They're proud.
[04:54:42] There are things they never.
[04:54:44] I like that he's doing the enemies, both weak and strong at the same time.
[04:54:49] Like he's doing this at the meat, the press.
[04:54:51] He's not even like, he's not even spacing it out.
[04:54:54] Nope.
[04:54:55] Immediately contradicting yourself.
[04:54:56] Got it.
[04:54:57] So what they'd be doing that they're going to have to do, they've got no choice.
[04:55:01] And it takes a little while.
[04:55:02] You're talking about 47 years of getting away with whatever they wanted.
[04:55:07] I mean, we should, this should have been done long ago.
[04:55:10] They should have been done by other presidents or other countries.
[04:55:12] There's just enough to be us, other countries, but they were very close to having a nuclear
[04:55:16] weapon twice.
[04:55:17] That was when I terminated the Iran nuclear deal, which was a path.
[04:55:22] That deal, the JCPOA, that deal was tantamount to giving them a nuclear weapon.
[04:55:29] It was a horrible deal given by Barack Obama, and really pinned by him.
[04:55:35] It was a horrible deal.
[04:55:37] You know, it expired long ago.
[04:55:39] had I not, had I terminated it, but had I not terminated it, it expired long ago. It was
[04:55:46] a road to a nuclear weapon. They would have had a nuclear weapon five years ago.
[04:55:50] But Mr. President, I'm curious because when you were...
[04:55:55] Literally they went back to the process of enriching uranium because Donald Trump added
[04:56:03] additional sanctions onto Iran after destroying the, uh, the, the JCPOA for no reason other
[04:56:11] than the fact that, uh, he's Israel's puppy. And after all of that, Nick Fuentes literally
[04:56:21] still did a January six after all that shit. Just remember that. Sometimes it's important
[04:56:29] to remember that cause like his fans would be like, you know, understand he's been anti
[04:56:33] Semitic for decades. He's actually been so consistent on this. It's like, okay. And then he promoted the most pro-Israel president of all time, Donald Trump.
[04:56:42] And not only that, but also participated in a fucking failed insurrection at the behest of that pro-Israel president, Donald Trump.
[04:56:53] Just saying. Something to think about. Even now, when he's like, oh, I'm hot and cold. I'm hot and cold.
[04:57:00] It kind of feels like he just hates Jews.
[04:57:03] He doesn't really mind Israel all that much, regardless of what he says, and that the hatred
[04:57:09] of Israel is secondary for him.
[04:57:11] It's just an opportunity for him to normalize Jew-hatred in general, you know?
[04:57:18] In painting, you said you would rip up the Iran nuclear deal, but negotiate a better deal.
[04:57:23] Why didn't you negotiate a better deal at the time?
[04:57:26] after it was ripped up there weren't guardrails and they escalated their
[04:57:29] production of enriched your excuse me it takes years to do these things these
[04:57:34] people have been fighting for 47 years they've been killing Americans they've
[04:57:39] been taking off their legs and their arm and their faces have been hurt so badly
[04:57:43] and so horribly I'm moving very fast I'm into three months you know Vietnam
[04:57:49] lasted 19 years I'm into my third month and all I do is say well when are you
[04:57:54] going to win. If I were a Democrat, nobody would be talking that way, but it doesn't
[04:57:58] matter to me. I've gotten so used to it. Look, we have totally destroyed their military.
[04:58:04] They have some missiles left. They have some drones left.
[04:58:07] Do you know how many missiles?
[04:58:08] Yes, exactly.
[04:58:09] How many?
[04:58:10] I don't want to tell you.
[04:58:11] Can you give me a ballpark?
[04:58:12] But they have some left. No. But they have, I know, almost to the number. And we know
[04:58:16] where they are, too. And we know where their drones are. And we know where their drone
[04:58:20] factories are most of the drone factories have been knocked out most of the
[04:58:23] launching pads have been knocked out and most of the missile manufacturing areas
[04:58:28] have been knocked out but they still have capacity they have some missiles
[04:58:33] they have some drones I would say percentage wise maybe 21 22 percent of
[04:58:40] their missiles it's a lot of missiles but it's not what it was when we first
[04:58:44] attacked so that you're saying they have 21 22 percent of their missiles left
[04:58:48] Correct, yes.
[04:58:49] Okay.
[04:58:50] Let's talk about what specifically you are demanding as a part of this short-term deal.
[04:58:56] Will the United States agree to a deal with Iran that doesn't explicitly and immediately
[04:59:02] give up its nuclear enrichment program on the front end?
[04:59:05] Well, you know, depending on what you say, immediately, look, it is buried under mountains
[04:59:13] because our B-2s were incredible.
[04:59:14] The pilots of our B-2s were unbelievable.
[04:59:17] And it's buried.
[04:59:19] They can't get it.
[04:59:20] The only two countries that could take it
[04:59:22] that have the equipment today have to send three mountains
[04:59:25] have fallen in on that, right?
[04:59:27] So you understand that because the fake news was going around
[04:59:30] saying, oh, maybe they didn't hit their target.
[04:59:33] 1 o'clock in the morning, pitch black, no moon, no nothing.
[04:59:36] And every one of those bombs went right down,
[04:59:37] those shoots blew up.
[04:59:40] They can't get it no matter what.
[04:59:42] I mean, they can get it, I guess, with years of work.
[04:59:45] But the only two countries that can get it are us and China,
[04:59:49] because we're the only two with the equipment
[04:59:51] that's capable of doing that kind of work.
[04:59:54] And it would take weeks, weeks of digging.
[04:59:57] So the answer is, yeah, we're going to do it immediately.
[05:00:01] We're going to start looking very quickly,
[05:00:03] and we'll do it with them.
[05:00:04] If we make a deal, we'll do it with them.
[05:00:05] With China.
[05:00:07] With, we're going to do it with the Iranians.
[05:00:10] So if we make a deal, that means we'll be friendly,
[05:00:14] we'll do it with the Iranians.
[05:00:16] If we don't make a deal, we may do it,
[05:00:18] or we may just watch it.
[05:00:19] You know, we have cameras on it all over it.
[05:00:21] If anybody walked there, if you walked over there,
[05:00:23] I would be able to read your first name when you lapel.
[05:00:27] And these are cameras up in space.
[05:00:29] It's pretty amazing technology, space force.
[05:00:31] We have cameras all over the site.
[05:00:33] We know if anybody goes there, if anybody went there,
[05:00:36] any digging mechanism, any truck, any tractors, anything.
[05:00:42] Anybody went there?
[05:00:44] We would know.
[05:00:46] We will take care of it.
[05:00:47] Is that rain, or what?
[05:00:49] Is that rain?
[05:00:51] He's starting to get scared.
[05:00:53] He's like, God is punishing me.
[05:00:54] I knew it was happening.
[05:00:58] Why are they in a barn?
[05:00:59] I don't fucking know, dude.
[05:01:00] I don't know anything anymore.
[05:01:02] Why did, why did they do anything?
[05:01:04] What is the first of multiple interruptions due to the weather rain hitting the metal
[05:01:13] roof making it difficult for both of us to hear each other.
[05:01:17] So as we're having this conversation, we can hear a little bit of rain, a lot of rain.
[05:01:23] Let me try to get a clear understanding of how the United States would get the nuclear
[05:01:28] material.
[05:01:29] You have nuclear dust.
[05:01:31] I love when he does that.
[05:01:33] What?
[05:01:34] It's the rain, it's too loud.
[05:01:36] What?
[05:01:37] Will you and would you be open to sending in US forces to retrieve the nuclear stock
[05:01:43] power?
[05:01:44] So the official name is highly enriched uranium.
[05:01:46] Oh, the official name.
[05:01:47] And I call it nuclear dust because it seems to be nice and everyone understands it better
[05:01:51] and it's so to keep and people picked it up.
[05:01:55] But the way you do it is if we make a deal, if we make a deal, now we're friendly, we'll
[05:01:59] all go together.
[05:02:00] It'll be our equipment.
[05:02:02] We'll take it out and destroy it, whether it's on-site or whether we take it off-site.
[05:02:07] So that would require U.S. forces?
[05:02:09] Well, that will require we will have a deal.
[05:02:12] We'll be friendly.
[05:02:13] In other words, we will have made a deal.
[05:02:15] And we will be at peace.
[05:02:18] And we will go with them, or without them, but we won't have people shooting at us.
[05:02:23] Now if we don't make a deal, then we're going to take them out militarily, very harshly,
[05:02:30] And we'll wait till we do that before we go, in which case we'll have safety either way.
[05:02:35] Mr. President, I wonder how long are you willing to give Iran to make a deal?
[05:02:42] How much longer?
[05:02:43] You've been talking for quite some time.
[05:02:45] Well, I wouldn't say that.
[05:02:46] Well, you really haven't.
[05:02:47] Again, you were in Vietnam for 19 years.
[05:02:49] You were in Iraq for many years.
[05:02:51] You were in Korea for many, many years.
[05:02:54] You were in all the – I won't even talk about World War II, because that was the
[05:02:58] big one.
[05:02:59] We don't want to ever have that, but you are in all these different wars for many years
[05:03:06] with thousands and thousands of people killed.
[05:03:10] We've had 13 people killed, which I hate.
[05:03:13] We've had 13 people killed, and that includes two wars.
[05:03:16] That's Venezuela and that's Iran.
[05:03:19] Do you have a cutoff point to your head?
[05:03:21] Why would you keep talking about speed, Chris?
[05:03:23] You're in Vietnam for 19 years and you tell me about...
[05:03:27] 18 years and it's still a rap it's good like what's the argument man 18 years talk to me
[05:03:35] again in 18 years I'll still be in charge you already know it baby Kirsten stop with
[05:03:41] this three months he's getting mad dude he's getting mad and in three months I've demolished
[05:03:47] the Navy the Air Force anti-aircraft they have no radar they have no nothing I demolished
[05:03:55] their leaders, their leaders are gone.
[05:03:58] Do you know where all of Iran's nuclear material is?
[05:04:01] Yes.
[05:04:03] Would you unfreeze any Iranian assets
[05:04:06] or lift any sanctions up front as a part of an ideal?
[05:04:09] No.
[05:04:10] So that would come after they turned over their nuclear
[05:04:14] risk management material.
[05:04:16] Unlike Obama.
[05:04:18] Obama flew a Boeing 757, a plane on over well.
[05:04:23] They took the seats out, and they loaded it up
[05:04:25] with $1.7 billion in cash from the banks in Maryland and Virginia and D.C., they emptied
[05:04:33] out the banks, and they gave them $1.7 in green, and they gave them tens of billions
[05:04:39] of dollars, just kept giving them money, and it didn't work.
[05:04:43] Would any...
[05:04:44] That never works, by the way.
[05:04:45] But again, Mr. President, you promised that you were going to negotiate a better deal.
[05:04:49] Do you wish you'd done it in your first term when you ripped it up at that, before you
[05:04:53] ripped up the deal?
[05:04:54] No, this is much better.
[05:04:56] This is much better.
[05:04:57] If I would have done it in my first term,
[05:05:00] Israel wouldn't have been ready.
[05:05:02] Hear that sound?
[05:05:03] That sound?
[05:05:03] Thunder, lightning, rain?
[05:05:05] Is that going to interrupt, guys?
[05:05:06] No.
[05:05:07] OK.
[05:05:08] People will understand.
[05:05:09] We're in a forum.
[05:05:10] That's true.
[05:05:12] Will any deal you make include the release of Americans
[05:05:16] who are being held by Iran?
[05:05:18] Well, we talk about it, and we'll see.
[05:05:20] Nobody really has an accurate list of who they are,
[05:05:23] what they are, or if they're being
[05:05:24] held but if they're we've been talking about it nobody will have a list you
[05:05:31] know that right you know you're asking me about nobody has a list but are you
[05:05:36] demanding a list are you demanding to know and saying they've got to come home
[05:05:39] I mean you know people that we're talking about if you give me the names I'll do my
[05:05:44] best to get a lot of things that's been reported I don't think it's all of the
[05:05:49] people who've been held all I'm saying is this if you have a list of names give
[05:05:53] them to me and I will get something you talk to them about we talk about people if they have
[05:05:58] them but nobody noise gate noise gate anybody that's got to be crazy am I the rain by the way
[05:06:05] because the mice are picking up everything and I'm sure they have a noise gate that's crazy
[05:06:14] Trump is an anti-POWMIA truth or I mean, it's true. It's it's fake. It's fake bullshit.
[05:06:24] The POWMIA movement was created for for nonsensical purposes that does not offer Vietnam reparations.
[05:06:36] they lied. It's a total fabrication. So, respect to Trump for being a POW-MIA truther.
[05:06:46] He knows who they are.
[05:06:48] Just like you don't know who they are.
[05:06:50] You have openly said you've been frustrated by Israel's continued bombing of Lebanon.
[05:06:56] Are you and Prime Minister Netanyahu on the same page?
[05:07:01] Yeah, we are. We get along very well.
[05:07:03] We've been great comrades.
[05:07:05] We've did a very, very big number on a certain country that was nothing but trouble for 47 years.
[05:07:12] I disagree with him on a couple of things.
[05:07:14] I'd like to see Lebanon have a better life.
[05:07:19] I'd like to see a more surgical attack on Hezbollah, I think it should be more surgical.
[05:07:28] And we can help them with that, or we can recommend Syria.
[05:07:32] Syria is doing a very good job of cleaning up Iraq, they have a very good leader, they
[05:07:37] have a leader that's really done a good job in a short period of time, and he would love
[05:07:40] to help.
[05:07:41] Are you demanding that Lebanon be a part of the short-term deal that we're working on?
[05:07:51] I'm not demanding.
[05:07:52] I think they'd like to see it, but I'm not demanding it.
[05:07:55] Okay.
[05:07:56] I wonder if we should.
[05:07:57] Let me just get a gut check here.
[05:07:59] Should we pause for five minutes and let this pass?
[05:08:02] I just want to be able to hear everything you said.
[05:08:06] The rain did not stop, but neither did our interview.
[05:08:09] When we come back president Trump on his property
[05:08:13] Assistant camp big picture now mr. President
[05:08:17] One of your consistent
[05:08:19] Offsets was known. This is you doing interviews and bowling alleys by the way
[05:08:25] Calm down. Okay the one time I did it one time
[05:08:31] Chill out completely optional by the way, I know they did not have to do this inside of a fucking tin roof farm
[05:08:39] I'd be so pissed. I would be so unbelievably pissed if they if we set up something like
[05:08:48] this and then the fucking weather conditions just crooked rain just ruined it.
[05:08:57] There is something very cozy about the rain, though. I don't know why I feel like cozy.
[05:09:03] feel like I want to like bundle up under some blankies. Imagine with Trump just cuddling.
[05:09:14] Cuddling with Trump under some blankies snuggling snuggle, but just me and the goat kind of
[05:09:22] romantic. LA man reminisces. You ruined it. What do you mean? He's like, yes, yes. Caress
[05:09:35] me. Caress me more. I feel so safe. I feel so safe in your strong arms. He's gonna
[05:09:52] Florida under the blanket and touch you with his cold ass feet. Oh God. Wait, why is there
[05:09:57] liberal rain? Oh, you. How do you do that? How are you raining on Trump? How are you
[05:10:08] making it rain on Trump? What the fuck? Oh my God, it's raining on me now. New wars going
[05:10:21] all the way back to 2015. Did you break that promise to the American people?
[05:10:27] I had to stop a country. Is Trump big spoon? No, Trump is little spoon. Steve Chung is big spoon.
[05:10:34] I'm in between. I'm sandwich in between.
[05:10:39] I'd never be cold again with those big hot bodies.
[05:10:42] These cuddling in between sandwich like an Oreo, two big bodies, Steve Chong on one side,
[05:10:56] with his big belly on the small of my back, and me offering full spectrum coverage to
[05:11:07] Trump.
[05:11:12] Prime Minister, special coverage from the big presidential bed.
[05:11:15] Bro, I just tuned in.
[05:11:16] What is this?
[05:11:17] I'm fantasizing about cuddling with Steve Chung and President Donald Trump.
[05:11:21] It's Prime Month.
[05:11:24] We're getting gay with it a little bit.
[05:11:26] Very powerful, very dangerous country from having a nuclear weapon because they use it.
[05:11:33] They blow up the world.
[05:11:34] They blow up the Middle East.
[05:11:35] They blow up Israel.
[05:11:36] They'd come here, they'd blow up your nuts, crazy people, they'd deal with them, and
[05:11:44] very high scum people, they were crazy, and get along with them, I like them, but you
[05:11:51] don't want to let them have a nuclear weapon.
[05:11:54] And I'm doing the world a service, but I'm doing our country a service, you see, it's
[05:11:57] America first, I'm doing our country a service, nice man.
[05:12:05] The more he lies, the more it rains, dude.
[05:12:07] God is like, nope.
[05:12:09] Nope.
[05:12:10] But the answer is, let's just keep going, let's keep going, let's power through it,
[05:12:18] right?
[05:12:19] Here, we paused nearly five minutes for the rain to pass and then picked up our conversation.
[05:12:26] So you're saying you didn't break your promise and yet, Mr. President, in your first term,
[05:12:31] You held to that promise, and it was so fundamental
[05:12:35] to who you were as a candidate to a first term president.
[05:12:39] What changed?
[05:12:40] Because you insisted no new wars.
[05:12:43] Before I was in the Valentino War,
[05:12:46] why would I have built the strongest military in the world?
[05:12:48] I built our military.
[05:12:49] I inherited a terrible military.
[05:12:51] There was no equipment, nothing.
[05:12:52] I built a tremendous military.
[05:12:55] Biden gave a lot of it away,
[05:12:56] but it's still a relatively small portion
[05:12:59] compared to what I built.
[05:12:59] But you said it over and over again, Mr. Piper.
[05:13:02] Why would I build a military?
[05:13:03] No, I didn't want to use this.
[05:13:05] But I'm doing you and everybody else a big favor.
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[05:15:04] that's crazy your total cost if you're subscribing for like six dollars to me is literally like
[05:15:15] the recents for every hour that I'm live and it's also completely free, you son of a bitch.
[05:15:28] That's crazy. You don't even have to do it. I'm like, I'm like fucking the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
[05:15:37] Okay. You don't even have to subscribe. It's voluntary.
[05:15:45] No pride? No, because Iran cancelled pride. Iran cancelled pride parade on the broadcast.
[05:15:51] This is the most successful country because as you know in the last time we were a dead
[05:15:55] country, Kristen. I know you, you're a big liberal, a big progressive.
[05:15:59] No, I'm just a journalist.
[05:16:01] We were a dead country. A year ago, couple of years ago, we were a dead country. Now we
[05:16:05] have the hottest country anywhere in the world. And at the all-time hottest point, which is
[05:16:09] probably now.
[05:16:10] This is a different LGBT event.
[05:16:12] event.
[05:16:13] I'm trying Level 6, but to be 7, Level 6, 7.
[05:16:37] It was a horrible day of listen to me. It was a horrible deal. It was a wait professor John mentioned me again
[05:16:48] You focus on three different things at once I can't do that
[05:16:53] My mind will go berserk if I did that so you're absolutely right
[05:16:58] Let me figure this out. Let me figure out how to get a
[05:17:03] moderator in here and also
[05:17:05] So maybe next time or maybe a couple months from now,
[05:17:09] we'll do a Zoom conversation.
[05:17:10] So each of you will have the opportunity to participate.
[05:17:15] And then I can just rest, right?
[05:17:17] Because right now I'm just talking.
[05:17:19] Again, the streamers, like Hassan Piker, Sneak Go,
[05:17:23] might have to offer them,
[05:17:24] because I don't know how they do this.
[05:17:25] They do this like eight hours a day, by the way.
[05:17:27] Like we might go on for another hour,
[05:17:31] but it's been half an hour and I'm already exhausted.
[05:17:35] Damn, Professor Chang, not my Professor Chang.
[05:17:46] Level 7 hype train, we get to level 10 and I'll play Charlie Kirk reggae music.
[05:17:52] Unlike you, a true auteur like Professor Chang, aka predicting history, respects the
[05:18:01] the work that I put into this fucking broadcast. Okay? That's right. He understands how tough
[05:18:08] this is. The stamina required, the operational capacity. Many of you on the other hand would
[05:18:17] be like, man, why only seven hours? Why not 11 hours every day? What was the road you
[05:18:25] Talk about I don't know but I saw a pack boy and I liked it never
[05:18:35] No, I don't have spaghetti straps suspenders on it's a part of the I'm wearing a melbon hundred thieves collab merchandise
[05:18:44] place.
[05:18:51] I'm Matthew, the market, Tony will says, fun comment, your article on Peter Thiele's
[05:18:56] Republic.
[05:18:57] Anyway, let's continue to them getting the nuclear weapon.
[05:19:01] They were very close to having a nuclear weapon.
[05:19:02] I terminated the deal.
[05:19:04] Wait.
[05:19:05] Then I sent the B2 bombers in about nine, 10 months ago and they obliterated totally obliterated
[05:19:11] the site.
[05:19:12] Level 7, I've trained level 10 and you get Charlie Kirk.
[05:19:15] We could let them have a nuclear weapon,
[05:19:17] or we could go along and have some beautiful days.
[05:19:20] But they would have, you know, it's a judgment.
[05:19:22] They would have used a nuclear weapon.
[05:19:24] And you know what?
[05:19:25] When people hear that whole scenario,
[05:19:28] when they hear me say Iran is gonna have a nuclear weapon
[05:19:33] and they're crazy, they say you're doing the right thing.
[05:19:37] I don't think it's an, I mean, you'll do polls
[05:19:39] because you're all fake polls anyway, especially yours.
[05:19:42] But you do polls.
[05:19:44] I just want a big election.
[05:19:46] And the reason I want an election is people of
[05:19:49] confidence and may have good judgment.
[05:19:52] I had to make a judgment.
[05:19:53] Do I want to go along and have a country that's doing
[05:19:55] really well, but somebody is going to try and kill us?
[05:19:59] Or do I want to put out that horrible threat?
[05:20:04] And I did.
[05:20:05] I put it out.
[05:20:05] I put it out for many, many years.
[05:20:08] Now I'm going to put it out permanently.
[05:20:10] I'm going to do it either through negotiation, where we're very close to a deal, or I'm going
[05:20:15] to blow the hell out of them.
[05:20:17] Almost a level eight hype train.
[05:20:19] And it's going to be very easy for them to do it.
[05:20:21] That's actually the easier path.
[05:20:23] So when you say, I promise, I didn't promise anything.
[05:20:27] I don't like these endless wars.
[05:20:29] This is not an endless war.
[05:20:31] We've been doing this for three months.
[05:20:33] Much of it has been under the form of pretty good form of ceasefire.
[05:20:37] The blockade has been amazing.
[05:20:38] Navy is amazing. By the way, this is literally why he's okay. Here's what it is. Here's what it is.
[05:20:46] He understands that he, uh, you know, his audience has no appetite. His base has no appetite for
[05:20:53] endless wars, I guess. And he doesn't like it either. So he has to,
[05:20:58] So he basically has to fucking make it seem like this isn't an unlimited quagmire he launched.
[05:21:09] So it's like, no, it's not even a real war. It's mostly ceasefire.
[05:21:14] It's the best in the world. Hey, we took over a very powerful country, Venezuela,
[05:21:20] very lot of soldiers, big strong military. We took over Venezuela in a matter of minutes.
[05:21:26] We destroyed the capability of Iran in a matter of days.
[05:21:32] Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
[05:21:34] Now I'm going to finish it.
[05:21:36] But remember, you were in Vietnam 19 years because, stupid people,
[05:21:39] you were in so many different countries every war you were in for years.
[05:21:44] Look at Iraq.
[05:21:46] Look what you were. You were there for years.
[05:21:49] Listen, Kirsten, we're there for a few months, and the threat is largely over.
[05:21:55] soon it will be over, but you cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon or they will blow you up.
[05:22:01] There will be no Kristen, there will be no NBC, there will be no Meet the Press, you will end the
[05:22:07] Meet the Press string. Let me ask you though, during your 2016 campaign, you called the Middle East
[05:22:13] a quagmire. What makes you so sure this won't become a quagmire? Well, I can't be there.
[05:22:18] Kristen, do not want the Meet the Press. Do you want Meet the Press to continue?
[05:22:22] because if not Iran will blow you they told me they said we don't like
[05:22:30] Christian we don't like Kristen we don't like her we need somebody else we're
[05:22:35] gonna kill her with a nuclear bomb a nuclear bomb we're gonna use on Kristen
[05:22:44] yeah meet the press more like meet the Ayatollah
[05:22:50] They call it NBC News. Next up, it's going to be FAR's news agency. You know that? It's
[05:23:02] going to be Tasnim. No more CNN. It's going to be Tasnim news agency. All of that will
[05:23:13] happen and more if i don't stop iran from developing a nuclear weapon
[05:23:26] level eight hype train two minutes remaining folks wiped out the military of a very dangerous
[05:23:32] country if you want reggae chenali kirk you know what to do oh shit you know what to do
[05:23:43] And I wiped out the nuclear, said,
[05:23:45] okay, we left tomorrow.
[05:23:46] We just said, all right, let's get out.
[05:23:48] It'll take them 15 or 20 years to rebuild back.
[05:23:51] But I'm not gonna give them even that chance.
[05:23:54] I'm not gonna give them that chance.
[05:23:55] They cannot have a nuclear weapon.
[05:23:57] And if there was even a 1% chance that they'd have it,
[05:24:01] I wouldn't leave.
[05:24:02] We're almost finished.
[05:24:03] We're gonna either have a deal, a strong deal,
[05:24:05] a meaningful deal, not like the Obama thing.
[05:24:07] Obama was a path to a nuclear weapon.
[05:24:10] Mine is the exact opposite.
[05:24:12] Mine is a war. It's a war. It's just like that.
[05:24:15] See, once he starts lying, the rain gets worse.
[05:24:17] OK, you see that?
[05:24:19] Allah is saying no more.
[05:24:22] Allah is saying, nope, you're not allowed to lie like this.
[05:24:25] Awaken the people and help them to see the evil doings of Israel and the United States.
[05:24:36] Subscribe if you like the soundboard.
[05:24:38] at the thousand miles of wall on our southern border and I have to show now
[05:24:42] the alveys is cooking my ass with the with the sub count dude they just knocked
[05:24:47] me off the top three which I've been at for years at this point that's why I'm
[05:24:52] shilling that's why I'm fucking shilling dude gotta do it gotta do it not
[05:24:58] enough soundboard don't worry I sort of miss when you made the sounds yourself
[05:25:05] Do you really think I still don't stim extra fucking hard when I go turbidurdy?
[05:25:13] Or when I go Emma numbers guy I know you really died number I know you like the number
[05:25:23] This past interview I've just done it Donald Trump sound the whole time
[05:25:29] Almost a level 10 hot trend where a level nine
[05:25:31] I
[05:25:34] 67.8 K she beat case. Oh Jesus Christ by the way
[05:25:38] I
[05:25:39] Took the worst border in history, and I made it the best border in history in a matter of weeks and yet mr.
[05:25:45] president
[05:25:46] Iran was closest to I know you like number
[05:25:50] Uranium after he ripped up the nuclear deal because there were no guard rails
[05:25:54] in place.
[05:25:55] Excuse me.
[05:25:56] They were developing it during the nuclear deal.
[05:25:59] You don't know that?
[05:26:00] What?
[05:26:01] Iran, when Obama signed that stupid deal, where he paid them billions and billions of dollars.
[05:26:06] Somebody could bribe them.
[05:26:08] Listen to me.
[05:26:09] They were developing a nuclear weapon.
[05:26:11] That's how they got there.
[05:26:12] They got all of this uranium during Obama.
[05:26:15] You know that, don't you?
[05:26:16] What?
[05:26:17] Well, that's how they got there.
[05:26:18] Don't say this.
[05:26:19] They got there.
[05:26:20] they developed it during the Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, during his administration.
[05:26:25] And they've escalated their development after the deal was created.
[05:26:29] They didn't escalate anything.
[05:26:31] Let's talk about the economy. I want to talk about the economy.
[05:26:34] If I didn't go in there with the B-2 bombers, they would right now have a nuclear weapon,
[05:26:38] and it could be that half of the world would be eradicated.
[05:26:41] Yeah, there would be no meat to press. I keep telling you, Kristen.
[05:26:45] Let me ask you about the economy.
[05:26:48] You got a strong jobs report today
[05:26:51] Half way through more than that with your level non-high train eat expectations
[05:26:58] It's a full 170,000 jobs created
[05:27:03] And yet
[05:27:05] Gases up diesel is up. It's all coming down as soon as the war is over 70% of farmers say they can't afford fertilizer
[05:27:12] What's your message to farmers who support you, but who say they're struggling, who say
[05:27:21] they're struggling?
[05:27:22] Because there's nobody better than one.
[05:27:23] Do you know I gave farmers last term $28 billion because China took advantage and other people.
[05:27:29] And you know, paid for it China, last term.
[05:27:32] You know, I had a great first term.
[05:27:33] I had the greatest economy ever, and you know what?
[05:27:35] This one's blowing it away.
[05:27:36] What's your message to farmers, though, Mr. President, who say they are struggling, they're
[05:27:41] You're struggling to make ends meet.
[05:27:42] Are you ready?
[05:27:43] Are you ready?
[05:27:44] Am I allowed to talk?
[05:27:45] You keep asking questions and you don't listen to the answers.
[05:27:48] I love the farmers and the farmers love me.
[05:27:50] The farmers trust me.
[05:27:51] In the first term, I had something very similar.
[05:27:54] China and others were in Canada, which was brutal.
[05:27:57] They were taking advantage of our farmers.
[05:27:59] They don't take advantage of it anymore.
[05:28:01] Almost there, folks.
[05:28:03] I gave them $28 billion.
[05:28:05] One minute remaining.
[05:28:06] There was no way they liked that.
[05:28:08] And the farmers loved me.
[05:28:09] and they came back and they voted for me in record numbers, you know, that nobody's ever even come close.
[05:28:14] Now, because of the fact that we had a choice, I had a choice to make.
[05:28:18] I could keep it going. The farmers were doing great.
[05:28:21] Fertilizer was very cheap. Everything was cheap. Gasoline was very low. Everything was very low.
[05:28:26] I could have kept it that way, but I said I have to take a little bit of a turn.
[05:28:29] The farmers couldn't understand they're better than anybody.
[05:28:32] We're going to have higher gasoline, we're going to have a little higher fertilizer, etc., etc.
[05:28:36] But I'm going to get rid of a nuclear weapon in the hands of very dangerous people.
[05:28:41] Excuse me.
[05:28:42] Wait.
[05:28:43] It should have been done for 47 years.
[05:28:45] No president had the guts to do it.
[05:28:47] I did it and I've done it.
[05:28:48] It's almost complete.
[05:28:50] As soon as that's complete, gasoline prices are going to drop like Iraq.
[05:28:54] You know, I was in Iowa speaking about FARC.
[05:28:56] Like Iraq.
[05:28:57] And it was before we attacked.
[05:28:59] Level 10 hype train, folks.
[05:29:01] And I was in Iowa and the country was going to have 25 trains again.
[05:29:06] He stood unshaking, a voice in the storm, a man of conviction.
[05:29:14] You carried the flame, Cat.
[05:29:15] I hardly bore.
[05:29:17] He spoke the truth when the cost was high.
[05:29:23] He lived for Jesus, unafraid to die.
[05:29:29] We are child leakers.
[05:29:32] We carry the flame.
[05:29:35] Fight for the gospel, we'll honor His name
[05:29:40] We are a tiny bird, His courage our own
[05:29:46] Together unbroken, we'll make Him alone
[05:29:52] A husband or father, His family held me in
[05:29:57] A home built on scripture, unfaith without fear
[05:30:03] The world tried to silence, but his voice remains
[05:30:09] In our city halls, in Christ's sustains
[05:30:14] We are child leaders
[05:30:17] We can't play
[05:30:20] We'll fight for the gospel
[05:30:23] We'll honor his name
[05:30:26] We are child leaders
[05:30:29] His courage are old, to get unbroken, they'll make everything old
[05:30:43] That's right, gone but not forgotten
[05:30:48] Charlie Jettadiah Kirk
[05:30:51] We carry his flame
[05:30:53] The darkness will fall
[05:30:55] We rise with his spirit
[05:30:58] We answer the call
[05:31:01] The truth is eternal
[05:31:04] The cross is our guide
[05:31:07] With God as our captain
[05:31:10] We march side by side
[05:31:13] We are the church leaders
[05:31:16] We'll fight for the gospel
[05:31:18] We'll fight for the gospel
[05:31:21] Well, all is well.
[05:31:24] We are Charlie girls.
[05:31:27] It's courage our own.
[05:31:30] Together, unbroken, we're making it new.
[05:31:35] We are Charlie girls.
[05:31:38] Charlie girls.
[05:31:40] Forever alive.
[05:31:42] Charlie girls.
[05:31:44] Charlie girls.
[05:31:46] With God, we will rise.
[05:31:48] That's right.
[05:31:59] Level 10 hype train, that's what you get baby.
[05:32:05] That's what you get.
[05:32:06] That's what you fucking get.
[05:32:07] You don't even want to know what you get for level 15 hype train, okay?
[05:32:12] I cannot believe there's an entire Wikipedia page.
[05:32:15] Oh my god, there's a Wikipedia page dedicated to We Are Charlie Curge.
[05:32:23] That's incredible.
[05:32:25] I like to think that we played hot Christian songs.
[05:32:33] This was actually on a fucking, uh, on a billboard list.
[05:32:37] It charted.
[05:32:44] Wow.
[05:32:45] I'm filing a complaint for not respecting my religion as a Catholic. This is hateful man. What is this? Why?
[05:32:54] The fuck does that have to do with anything?
[05:33:03] We'll make heaven known. We are Charlie Kirk. We carry the flame.
[05:33:10] We'll fight for the gospel will honor his name. Oh my god. This is the problem
[05:33:18] This is the pro because the Pope's at AI is evil. Yeah, the Pope makes an exception for this
[05:33:23] I'll be honest the Pope much like Charlie Kirk is also from Chicago
[05:33:31] Can we get a EDM remix at level 15 sure but it's 21 seconds remaining and we're not gonna make it to level 15 anyway
[05:33:37] So I can make that promise sure
[05:33:40] Also, not be cover please.
[05:33:49] Actually not terrible if this streaming thing doesn't work out what my singing, my pipes,
[05:33:55] my friggin pipes did.
[05:33:58] One dollar and ninety one cents ago.
[05:34:02] What?
[05:34:04] This time it wasn't the rain.
[05:34:05] What?
[05:34:06] What this time it wasn't the rain. I love when he does that what I'm glad he did it cuz remember
[05:34:19] I told you he was gonna hit one of the what he did it but he didn't do the fucking ear thing
[05:34:24] but an audio issue that forced us to pause the interview again our gas prices going higher
[05:34:31] or have they peaked? They're going to come low, very low. They're going to go lower than
[05:34:35] they were before. Have they peaked? As soon, well, it depends. I mean, it depends where
[05:34:39] the war goes. It could be off to give them a shot and it could be, well, sign an agreement.
[05:34:45] Give them a shot. Sign an agreement to go down now. Otherwise,
[05:34:47] I'd go down after we're finished. You have a new Fed chair, Kevin Warsh. Yeah.
[05:34:51] His first meeting in the role. Yeah. Also, he accidentally said it's a war.
[05:35:01] It is kind of funny that he he will just be like radically transparent and honest at times
[05:35:08] amidst a sea of lies.
[05:35:11] And I like to think in my head cannon that that moment of brief honesty is just on accident.
[05:35:16] Like he thinks he's still lying, but he ends up saying the truth.
[05:35:20] Because he just doesn't know what the fuck he's saying at all.
[05:35:25] Is later this month, after this month's jobs report, economists now say it's possible the
[05:35:31] The Fed may have to raise rates.
[05:35:33] Do you think that's possible and what would your reaction be, sir?
[05:35:36] So I'm of a different feel that I think Kevin is fantastic and I want him to do whatever
[05:35:42] he wants.
[05:35:43] I don't want to have a big influence on him.
[05:35:44] But we had a great report.
[05:35:47] We're doing great.
[05:35:48] And it's unfair that whenever you do great, they want to raise interest rates.
[05:35:51] It should be the opposite.
[05:35:53] You know, if you go back 15 or 20 years, when you had good reports, the market went up.
[05:35:59] Nowadays, when you have good reports, the market goes down because they think they're going to raise interest rates.
[05:36:03] There's no reason to raise interest rates.
[05:36:06] The country becomes great.
[05:36:08] We built the country by doing great and having rates low.
[05:36:12] What they do is when they raise interest rates, they try and kill success.
[05:36:17] I don't want to kill success.
[05:36:19] We should actually lower interest rates.
[05:36:21] Now, if inflation comes, and you know, people live with inflation,
[05:36:25] But if inflation comes, what happens is you stamp it out.
[05:36:29] But success can kill inflation just like higher interest rates.
[05:36:34] What they do now is, like we had great job numbers.
[05:36:37] You agree, right?
[05:36:38] They beat expectations.
[05:36:39] And not expectations, like three times.
[05:36:41] Okay.
[05:36:42] But you ready?
[05:36:43] What do they do?
[05:36:44] They say, oh, let's raise interest rates.
[05:36:47] It's the wrong thing to do.
[05:36:49] I would like to see rates get lower because we could build this into the greatest machine
[05:36:54] that the world has ever seen.
[05:36:55] But you can't do that when everybody
[05:36:57] immediately raises interest rates.
[05:36:59] So we had great job numbers.
[05:37:01] We're doing great.
[05:37:01] You know, we're building more factories.
[05:37:03] We have more money coming into our country right now
[05:37:05] from other countries and people than ever before.
[05:37:08] Wait a minute.
[05:37:09] What happens?
[05:37:10] I don't want to just kill it with high interest rates.
[05:37:14] Growth is the greatest thing you can have.
[05:37:16] And growth does not cause inflation.
[05:37:19] Would you be upset if they raised rates?
[05:37:22] What is your message to them about that?
[05:37:25] Living with Kevin, I have a lot of respect for him.
[05:37:28] But my feeling is that when a country is doing well,
[05:37:32] they shouldn't be penalized by immediately raising
[05:37:35] interest rates.
[05:37:36] They should actually be incentivized.
[05:37:39] You know, we have debt, we have other things.
[05:37:41] We have things we want to take care of.
[05:37:43] I want to go bigger on the military, I really do.
[05:37:46] If we do what I'm saying, this will be a beautiful, well
[05:37:51] oil machine like you've never seen before.
[05:37:55] And when we come back, President Trump defends his controversial plan that could give payouts
[05:38:00] to January 6th rioters.
[05:38:04] My former friend who's mega-argued that it's not a war, even though Trump has called it
[05:38:07] a war before, because the president cannot declare a war, it's incredible cope.
[05:38:11] He also said it doesn't matter that Trump is implying a third term because he will not
[05:38:14] be able to do it because of the Constitution, I found that to be utterly ridiculous.
[05:38:18] Yeah, I mean, I like to use it your former friend because just so you understand when
[05:38:22] it does happen, I'm not even saying if when it does happen, he will defend it.
[05:38:28] But I think you know that already.
[05:38:32] At this point, arguing with MAGA on facts is very stupid.
[05:38:39] They do not live in a facts-based universe.
[05:38:42] They live in an alternative universe where the facts are made up.
[05:38:47] And one day Trump says the sky is blue, they say the sky is blue, the next day Trump says
[05:38:50] the sky is red, and they say the sky is red.
[05:38:54] Sometimes Trump says the sky is both blue and red at the same time.
[05:38:58] And as soon as Trump says it, they believe it.
[05:39:01] It's a fucking cult.
[05:39:04] That's precisely the reason why when Donald Trump said he was going to fix the inflation
[05:39:07] crisis and never did, all these guys shut the fuck up about it.
[05:39:13] Or they get mad about it, but they don't know what the real reason is.
[05:39:18] That's why when Trump said no new wars and then started a bunch of other wars, they're
[05:39:22] like, well, he's still actually, he's not militarily starting wars and militarily ending
[05:39:28] wars, right?
[05:39:35] I mean, the best example of this, the best example of this was during liberation day,
[05:39:44] right?
[05:39:51] Breaking Prime Minister Benjamin A.R. accepts request from US President Donald Trump, not
[05:39:54] Oh shit. Oh shit. I still think it's theater. We'll see. We'll see what happens. This is a huge, if this is, if he follows
[05:40:12] What's wrong with this is boss call.
[05:40:16] It's boss call, unbelievable, uh, levels of deterrence achieved by Iran means, means Donald
[05:40:26] Trump is actually that desperate for a fucking ceasefire that he's willing to slap Israel
[05:40:31] in the mouth.
[05:40:34] I'll take it.
[05:40:42] We'll see if Israel keeps bombing Beirut.
[05:40:47] But you do understand.
[05:40:50] Remember when people were mocking your one-phone calls,
[05:40:53] well, it takes, I mean, that always exists.
[05:40:55] I'm not even, but I'm disputing whether or not this is real.
[05:40:58] But yes, that's, of course, it's real.
[05:41:00] It is one-phone call.
[05:41:04] See, listen, listen, this is a huge development, okay?
[05:41:15] Because Iran bitch slapped Israel today.
[05:41:20] Straight up, Israel thought that they could get away with bombing Beirut, and then Iran
[05:41:24] would not actually bomb Israel.
[05:41:27] Iran straight up opened fire on Israel, obviously Israeli society now wants to retaliate very,
[05:41:33] very aggressively. Okay? If Trump actually restrains Israel right now, at this moment,
[05:41:41] that means he is that desperate for a deal. Or, the stupidest option of all time, Trump
[05:41:50] simply wants to attend the game at Madison Square Garden tomorrow night, and that's the
[05:41:54] reason why he's telling Israel to hold off until he watches the Knicks game, game three,
[05:41:59] And then he'll be like, you can go ahead, you can shoot Beirut now.
[05:42:06] Or you can shoot Iran, we'll shoot it together.
[05:42:10] Now here's the thing, here's the thing.
[05:42:19] This means that Iran can literally get away with hitting Israel, if Israel chooses to
[05:42:24] hit Beirut again. And America won't do anything about it. And as a matter of fact, America
[05:42:30] will tell Israel to stand down. Okay? That's a big deal. Once again, total and utter vindication
[05:42:45] in terms of my analysis on the matter. Where is the gangie guy? I want to know where the
[05:42:50] The Gangie guy is, you know, he hasn't been around Trey, Trey's still young, Mr. Gangie,
[05:42:58] Mr. Contingencies, I wanna know where he is, you know?
[05:43:11] the show crying? Why are we turning on Israel and Netanyahu tonight? Wow!
[05:43:21] We'll see. We'll see if we actually are.
[05:43:27] If this isn't a world war, then what turns a regular war into a world war?
[05:43:44] Yeah, Master Shake is pissed.
[05:43:56] So anyway, we'll see if this is real or not.
[05:44:04] Only time will tell.
[05:44:06] But if real, this is a huge step.
[05:44:11] It's a huge step in the right direction because Iran has now officially, militarily, caused
[05:44:19] so much damage and so much deterrence that america is
[05:44:23] is uh... begging for a ceasefire
[05:44:26] so much so that it will tell it's you know dominant ally
[05:44:31] to stand down
[05:44:33] after
[05:44:34] it just got hit
[05:44:38] this is a spectacular change of events
[05:44:43] i'm you know i'm not
[05:44:46] Like I've said over and over again, I'm not going to believe it until I see it with my own two eyes until I see like the military retreat until the ink is dried.
[05:44:56] I'm not going to believe it, but this is a good step in the right direction.
[05:45:16] Last time this happened, yeah, that's true, rogue state temper tantrum.
[05:45:32] New massive Assad reporting Gaza as the U.S. and Iran appear to be nearing a deal to end
[05:45:35] the U.S.'s really war on Iran.
[05:45:42] Significant, receive penalties from it, actively violating a
[05:46:10] A potential ceasefire.
[05:46:17] Yeah, by the way, look forward, no matter who, no matter what happens.
[05:46:26] Look forward to some incredible Epstein leaks tomorrow.
[05:46:32] All of a sudden, all of a sudden, we're going to find out tomorrow that, you know, Donald
[05:46:37] Trump and Donald Trump's dick deep inside of Jeffrey Epstein's butt or something, you know?
[05:46:43] Oh my God, how did that get there? What? Wait, there's videos? How did that happen?
[05:46:51] Yeah, Melania having sex with Jeffrey Epstein leaked.
[05:47:01] How did that happen? Who has control over these Epstein files? They keep getting leaked out of
[05:47:07] of nowhere. Trump massaging Jeffrey Epstein's feet, Trump massaging Bill Clinton's feet
[05:47:17] at the Jeffrey Epstein mansion. That dropside pose you showed was from A. Yes, I know. I
[05:47:24] said the last time a ceasefire deal was imminent, Israel turned around and deployed maximum munitions
[05:47:34] on Gaza, because that's the Israel strategy. And by the way, just like that, right on
[05:47:40] Q Israel already literally fucking, uh, for it got kojatt to shut off all humanitarian
[05:47:47] aid into the Gaza strip, by the way, because they are disgusting fucking Nazis and they're
[05:47:56] weak cowards and they only fucking punish people who are vulnerable. Okay. The only
[05:48:03] thing they respond to is force. It's ironic that everything that they say about Iranians,
[05:48:09] Muslims, Arabs as a whole is actually projection, okay? The Israeli government only fucking understands
[05:48:18] ass to belt, okay? That's it. Lewis said you shouldn't say that. Yeah, well, here I am
[05:48:25] saying it over and over again. Because it's true and I will never stop saying the truth.
[05:48:33] No matter how much it hurts people's feelings.
[05:48:38] Yeah, just like that one chatter was saying, this must be the alt, alt, alt right though. Yeah.
[05:48:45] Did I say asked about? Fuck!
[05:48:53] We are Jolly Good!
[05:48:56] I don't know what to do.
[05:49:03] Together I'm broken.
[05:49:06] Let heaven be known.
[05:49:09] We are Charlie Kirk.
[05:49:20] You can't Charlie Kirk your way out of this? Yes, I just did bitch
[05:49:30] Anyway great stuff overall fantastic love to see it
[05:49:39] If this is real enough theater, it's a huge step in the right direction where Iran has dealt
[05:49:42] such significant damage that Trump is willing to let Israel receive penalties from it
[05:49:46] it for actively violating a potential ceasefire.
[05:49:56] Going forward, Israel's calculation as a spoiler changes.
[05:50:16] Charlie Kirk.
[05:50:20] Tomorrow's headline.
[05:50:27] Together, I'm broken, brother.
[05:50:30] I beg you to learn your shift.
[05:50:32] Keep man don't even.
[05:50:46] You're not doing it.
[05:51:00] Speaking of Charlie Kirk, have you heard Kai Newkirk? Is any woke?
[05:51:10] continue occupying and attacking Lebanon. What's the point? This is not the W. You keep framing
[05:51:15] it to be. You sound delusional. By definition, how is it deterrence if they don't stop attacking
[05:51:19] Lebanon? You're not making any sense. How is it? Dog, what are you talking about?
[05:51:25] This has shown for the first time that a foreign adversary like Iran can force America's hand
[05:51:32] into stopping Israel. Of course, it's a fucking W. What are you talking about? The alternative
[05:51:38] is the war restarting. This shows, this proves that Trump is terrified of the war restarting.
[05:51:46] What the fuck? What do you mean? That's why I said if it's real and not theater, by the
[05:51:55] way. This is not Donald Trump personally saying Israel stand down. This is Donald Trump saying
[05:52:06] Israel stand down because they're worried about Iran.
[05:52:12] Donald Trump just gave a free fucking attack to Iran.
[05:52:18] Donald Trump, with this decision, if it's real,
[05:52:20] if Benjamin Netanyahu is following through on it, for sure,
[05:52:24] basically told Israel, you're on your fucking own.
[05:52:27] If you if you fuck this up with Beirut one more time,
[05:52:30] Iran will strike you and we won't do anything about it.
[05:52:36] No, it's because the damage was so minor, it was tiny, I promise.
[05:52:47] What do you mean?
[05:52:48] Are you in fucking Israel?
[05:52:49] What are you talking about?
[05:52:50] It doesn't matter.
[05:52:51] It's a grave, egregious wound to the Israeli confidence.
[05:53:05] His relationship has been completely one-sided this entire time since Trump won.
[05:53:15] This 1.8 billion so-called anti-weaponization funds going to compensate.
[05:53:21] Israel's greatest weapon is not its military might, its espionage capabilities.
[05:53:26] Israel's greatest weapon is that America offers it impunity, you understand?
[05:53:32] This is the first time where America is not offering Israel impunity.
[05:53:35] As a matter of fact, it's saying, no, you're going to take this, you're going to take this
[05:53:38] cost and you're going to eat it.
[05:53:41] That's a huge fucking deal.
[05:53:42] If you can't see that, if you can't recognize that, I don't want to tell you.
[05:53:46] Okay.
[05:53:47] That is Israel's greatest weapon because without the United States of America, without the
[05:53:50] political cover and without the, the logistical aid that America gives to Israel around the
[05:53:57] clock with that unlimited funds that American donors give to Israel, the
[05:54:02] American government gives to Israel, it's over. Israel is nothing. Israel is at
[05:54:09] the end of the day, joking, but this is serious, a tiny nation the size of New
[05:54:14] Jersey. Israel doesn't have a standing military that could actually militarily
[05:54:19] invade any of these fucking countries. It barely has the capacity to invade
[05:54:23] southern Lebanon and even then it's with like a lot of American support that they get to do this.
[05:54:29] And most importantly, Israel only gets to do this with American political cover,
[05:54:36] which is also a necessity because American political cover offers all these other Western
[05:54:42] nations the opportunity to give Israel complete aid and complete support throughout this entire
[05:54:49] process. Israel is considering not attacking Iran tonight following opposition from Trump.
[05:54:55] An attack would be instead in a few days. Oh my God, I might be right. Oh my God,
[05:55:00] he told him after, after the NICS win. Oh my God.
[05:55:10] Well, they're the most spoiled babies of all time. So just wait, even the fact that
[05:55:15] But intelligence assessment discusses the underway between the United States and Israeli
[05:55:21] regime to postpone the regime's attack until the end of the week, during which Iran would
[05:55:24] face intensified pressure to reach an agreement.
[05:55:26] Trump has told Nenyeahuddin in the absence of an agreement he will join the regime's
[05:55:30] attack against Iran.
[05:55:31] Meanwhile, any form of portrayal of threat situation will only distance Iran from an
[05:55:35] agreement.
[05:55:36] No agreement will exist until Iran's conditions are fully met, and no type of military threat
[05:55:39] will alter this conclusion.
[05:55:41] Yup, they're standing.
[05:55:45] This is why they should have fucking stressed it on Gaza to and not just Lebanon
[05:55:53] They should have forced them to to retreat from Gaza to
[05:55:58] Because that's the maximalist right that's a demand that they
[05:56:02] Like Israel will never abide by
[05:56:05] But that would be the guarantee
[05:56:09] Because they can always halt or like I guess a withdrawal from Lebanon would be also good too
[05:56:15] Are we just watching you post on Twitter lemma out. Yes, dude. That's what this broadcast is about.
[05:56:33] What the fuck at least five people stabbings on New York City's Penn Station.
[05:56:40] What the fuck.
[05:56:42] Well, they literally saw that New York had the lowest crime rate, and they were like,
[05:56:48] we got to fix that.
[05:56:50] Oh, Jesus Christ, and say people who say the federal government weaponized the legal system
[05:56:57] against them.
[05:56:58] It's been blocked by the courts, met with opposition from Republicans and Democrats and Democrats
[05:57:07] and some Republicans.
[05:57:08] Very few Republicans.
[05:57:09] to be very clear. Are you backing off the fund completely, as your acting Attorney General
[05:57:15] Todd Blanche has said, or are you looking for another avenue to revive the fund?
[05:57:20] So let me explain what the fund is. People have been hurt so badly by radical left lunatics
[05:57:28] that worked for the Biden administration in Sleepy Joe. They're vicious, they're violent,
[05:57:33] what they did to people. And of course they wouldn't have to me more than anybody else.
[05:57:37] they raided Mar-a-Lago and all the other things.
[05:57:39] But people have been badly hurt.
[05:57:41] They've committed suicide, they've lost their jobs,
[05:57:45] they've lost their families, they've lost their wives,
[05:57:47] they've lost everything, they've lost everything
[05:57:49] over a fake weaponization of government.
[05:57:53] Now let me just tell you.
[05:57:54] So you're looking for a way to revive it?
[05:57:55] Well, it's like, it was up to me.
[05:57:58] I'd pay them the kind of money that they deserve.
[05:58:02] People have been destroyed, lives have been destroyed.
[05:58:05] many suicides think of it people have committed suicide because a bunch of
[05:58:10] thugs went after them you know so me personally I think the weaponization
[05:58:15] fun these guys just love releasing pedophiles back into the wild actually
[05:58:20] that's what it is that's the truth some of these guys okay maybe they like them
[05:58:26] young on the young side there's nothing wrong with that is a great idea and so do
[05:58:31] many other Republicans. You have to get it approved. If they get it approved, that's great.
[05:58:37] If they don't get it approved, I'd be disappointed.
[05:58:40] All right, we're going to motor through this.
[05:58:43] But you have to admit, people have been destroyed by crooked politicians, and they should be
[05:58:50] reimbursed for that.
[05:58:52] Do you think anyone who attacked police officers on January 6th should get taxpayer money?
[05:58:58] I wouldn't be inclined to say so, but I have it's over
[05:59:03] Vote help projects. Nithya Raman will defeat Spencer Pratt for his second place in the L.A. Marrow race
[05:59:09] Raman erased Pratt's election night lead as post-election ballots broke strongly in her direction
[05:59:14] Reflecting later ballot returns from Democratic voters across, California
[05:59:20] Spencer Pratt has been defeated the evil has been defeated. Thank God
[05:59:26] as I said
[05:59:27] Time and time again since election night the very fact that he was even in contention
[05:59:33] Red Mirage or not
[05:59:35] Imply that there were hundreds of thousands of my fucking neighbors most likely my immediate neighbors that looked at Timu Trump
[05:59:42] After you know two years of Donald Trump's madness and thought we can go dumber than this
[05:59:49] Okay, we should have a local version of this here in Los Angeles, California. That is blackpilling
[05:59:56] Okay. That's genuinely fucking blackpilling. There's been a lot of talk about, there's been a lot of talk about how, you know, this is a steal, stop the steal. Nobody knows who Nithya Raman is. Literally, it's so stupid.
[06:00:14] Um, AJ Glickson, constitutional conservative says, I'm very skeptical of fraud claims,
[06:00:19] but as someone who knows LA very well, and I'm not in the conservative bubble at all,
[06:00:23] interesting constitutional conservative, fiscal conservative, socially conservative, always
[06:00:26] opinionated, not in a conservative bubble.
[06:00:28] I really don't see how ramen could have legitimately came in second over Pratt.
[06:00:31] Maybe because Twitter broke your fucking brain, dumbass.
[06:00:37] I said this, this city, Hey, Trump, the fact that Pratt got as many votes as he did is
[06:00:41] blackpilling enough.
[06:00:42] funny that people think Bass in the establishment prefers a matchup with Nithya Raman over Timu
[06:00:46] Trump. Unlike Pratt, she actually has a higher chance of unseating Bass, which is true. This was
[06:00:52] Spencer Pratt's post earlier today where he said, remember everyone, we're still in the lead and
[06:00:57] we've got all the way till July 6th to keep counting. They're not the only ones who know
[06:01:01] where to find votes. Winky face. What does that even fucking mean?
[06:01:12] of
[06:01:23] the
[06:01:36] If you get your political opinions from this fucking moron...
[06:02:06] a constant state of panic and confusion all the time.
[06:02:17] I love watching Hassanab's shit post on non-suit days, yeah.
[06:02:24] Pratt did a video about you. I know. I know he did.
[06:02:39] Yeah, the coal method, dude, at this point, the coal method just fails, I think.
[06:02:57] People hear, oh, this person associates with the song, well, I guess got a vote for her,
[06:03:05] if I don't fucking endorse them. You look younger today, thank you. Literal baby cries
[06:03:19] why his shits and moans, he still got it. Anyway, let's finish this little, uh, literal
[06:03:25] baby crying. I haven't even gotten to that part yet.
[06:03:38] I know you said not to take pics, but because Fox is watching, but I'm doing my part. Oh,
[06:03:44] the mules. Oh my God. Why are you showing our mules, dude? The 3000 mules, baby.
[06:03:51] I can tell you this 97% of those people you look at them the FBI or whoever it was you had a lot of crooked cops
[06:04:01] You had dirty cops. Call me was a dirty cop
[06:04:03] I got like both was a dirty cop
[06:04:05] Wait a minute, wait a minute
[06:04:07] Oh you think call me was a straight cop?
[06:04:09] Call me was a dirty cop
[06:04:11] No, no, the people who assaulted police officers
[06:04:13] Listen to me
[06:04:15] They had FBI agents ushering them into the building
[06:04:19] They had FBI go into the building.
[06:04:21] Those people walking around, they're looking always in this light.
[06:04:24] They weren't, and they were being ushered into the building.
[06:04:27] There's no evidence of that.
[06:04:28] You had a bunch of dirty cops, and frankly, what they did was weaponization of our government.
[06:04:33] But, sir, there's no evidence of that, more than a thousand people.
[06:04:36] No, there's none? You know what you do? Try looking at the tapes one time.
[06:04:39] Would you take it off the table?
[06:04:41] Look at the tapes one time.
[06:04:42] Okay, but 172 people did plead guilty to assault and police assault.
[06:04:45] You know why they plead guilty?
[06:04:46] Should they be exempt?
[06:04:47] they told them they were going to jail for 15 years and they've been, they pled guilty because they
[06:04:53] were frightened. They went down. Republicans are able to criticize cops. Yes, I mean,
[06:04:59] Republicans can do everything. If you have an R next to your name, and Trump has really abused this,
[06:05:04] but like even before Trump, if you're a Republican, you own patriotism, right? So you can basically
[06:05:10] say whatever the fuck you wanted about cops, whatever the fuck you wanted about the direction
[06:05:13] America's headed, is like, remember, if someone on the left, on the political left, or like
[06:05:19] to the left of, you know, the center even, says, oh, America's headed down a bad direction,
[06:05:26] then every Republican collapses on you and says, oh, if you don't like it, leave you fucking pussy.
[06:05:30] Yeah, you just want this to be communist China. If you're a Republican and you say,
[06:05:35] America's headed down a bad direction, we're turning into communist China, we gotta fucking
[06:05:38] stop this. Everybody goes, yes, that's right. It's patriotic for you to say that. You can't
[06:05:43] criticize America from the left, you can only criticize America from the right. And the same goes
[06:05:47] for pretty much everything, okay? Because think about how much Republicans hate America.
[06:05:53] What is one of the most American values, one of the most American concepts? Sure,
[06:05:57] white supremacy is on the one hand a very powerful force in this country. It's baked into our
[06:06:02] fundamentals. But also on the other hand, our diversity is immense. And yet, Republicans love,
[06:06:09] I mean, love shitting on American diversity. It's the most un-American thing.
[06:06:18] Republicans get away with it. Trump can say cops are crooked, cops are piece of shit, fuck them.
[06:06:24] And nobody bats an eye. They say, nope, Mr. President, you're right. You're totally correct.
[06:06:30] God forbid, God forbid, someone on the center left says cops are bad. We should fix the system,
[06:06:38] We should fix the situation. Everyone's like, oh, you want cops to be fucking murder you piece of shit. We'll fucking kill you first
[06:06:44] Okay, that's just how it goes. This is this has always been the standard and liberals for the most part also
[06:06:52] Deploy and weaponize this exact same standard. You can always hit left
[06:06:58] Liberals deploy this exact same standard to their left to people like us, right?
[06:07:04] Well, they're on the receiving end from the Republican party.
[06:07:08] They turn around without batting an eye and do the exact same thing to their left flank.
[06:07:19] It's very frustrating.
[06:07:21] Yeah, the right can't comprehend turning on Israel, but it's not even a turn on Israel.
[06:07:31] I mean, I think it's over right is Joe over for the Steyer bros.
[06:07:43] It's Tom Steyer over.
[06:07:47] Master Shake is live by the way.
[06:07:49] Oh, fuck is this diplomacy.
[06:07:52] This is one of hundreds of documents they looked at in the extraordinary Churchill Roosevelt
[06:08:01] correspondence from 1939 to 1945 above all the material suggests in vivid
[06:08:07] detail the erosion of the Prime Minister's influence on the president
[06:08:11] from such high moments as the summer of 1943 when he could characterize their
[06:08:17] policies as two hearts beating as one is best Sarah worst in Gavin I can't believe
[06:08:22] I'm saying this but I think the Sarah might be worse than Gavin because he's
[06:08:25] Gavin Newsom but even more fucking corrupt left and right and they were
[06:08:29] still good friends, that they were going at it on military operations, on timing, on strategies.
[06:08:38] Among other things, the correspondence indicates that contrary to some recent historical assessments,
[06:08:44] the President clung to his goal of unity within the Grand Alliance until he died,
[06:08:49] meaning with Stalin, Stalin, Britain, and the United States. And Churchill said,
[06:08:56] This Stalin is evil. No way. You don't have the right view of this guy. No, I can deal with him.
[06:09:02] We can work with him. We've got to figure out how to do it. Churchill said, no, you're misreading this
[06:09:07] guy. And despite Churchill's eloquent pleas to persuade him to diminish the role of the Soviet
[06:09:14] Union in military and political decisions, Churchill was right. History has shown he was right.
[06:09:20] and FDR was wrong about dealing with the Soviet Union and so forth and so on.
[06:09:27] Let's go on. The major theme emerging from the exchanges as they're looking at
[06:09:32] all these documents, the exchanges after the Yalta conference now available in
[06:09:36] their entirety is Roosevelt's overriding concern with maintaining Allied
[06:09:40] accord for a strong international organization that would rule out war.
[06:09:44] An Allied accord he means with Stalin. Now let's talk about Yalta. Let's take a
[06:09:48] a little footnote here, very important, because Churchill was very concerned about what was
[06:09:54] going on in Yalta.
[06:09:57] The Yalta Conference was February 4 to 11, 1945.
[06:10:00] It was a pivotal World War II meeting with the Big Three, Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin,
[06:10:07] convened in Crimea to determine the political shape of post-war Europe.
[06:10:12] FDR would die exactly two months after the Yalta Conference, by the way.
[06:10:17] Churchill was upset about the Yalta Conference because he feared the agreements essentially
[06:10:22] allowed Joseph Stalin to replace Nazi tyranny with Soviet domination in Eastern Europe.
[06:10:29] He was right, FDR was wrong.
[06:10:32] Churchill was deeply concerned about Poland, whose defense was Britain's original reason
[06:10:37] for entering World War II, although the Allies drafted the Declaration on Liberated Europe
[06:10:42] to promise for elections.
[06:10:43] why are you so how is he gonna tie this back to israel in america and installing a public
[06:10:48] communist government church i said they're there now they're not leaving because the red army had
[06:10:54] overrun eastern europe stalin held a massive military advantage on the ground church i realized
[06:10:59] that broad principles and vague oh my god stalin that's the biggest enough to prevent this oh my god
[06:11:05] Creating a buffer zone of sub to look at the size of that 10
[06:11:10] Oh my god
[06:11:12] Churchill was frustrated by President Roosevelt handling of negotiations
[06:11:16] Roosevelt was often willing to grant concessions to Stalin such as territories in Asia and
[06:11:22] Sometimes cider was Stalin against Churchill to push his vision for the United there was goaded. What are you talking about?
[06:11:29] I feared the sweeping influence the Soviet. Yes, FDR was fucking goaded shut the fuck up
[06:11:34] up. One of the greatest presidents. Okay. And he made a lot of mistakes too. Don't get me
[06:11:39] wrong, but like that he secretly commissioned Operation Unthinkable, a contingency plan to
[06:11:46] launch an allied attack on the Soviet Union before Stalin could consolidate his power,
[06:11:52] which was never actually Japanese internment was a, was a stand Yalta with a profound sense
[06:11:58] of foreboding about the fate of the world.
[06:12:02] About the fate of the world.
[06:12:04] Why are we dealing with the Soviets this way?
[06:12:07] You was right.
[06:12:10] Churchill cabled Roosevelt demanding a firm and blunt stand against Stalin's posture,
[06:12:15] threatening to air the differences over Poland in a speech to his parliament.
[06:12:20] The president agreed that we must not permit anybody to entertain false impressions that
[06:12:25] we are afraid.
[06:12:27] But the message dated April 6 went on, our armies will in a very few days be in a position
[06:12:33] that will permit us to become tougher than has Heretofore appeared advantageous to the
[06:12:38] world.
[06:12:39] Fox News official figure of the five gifted subs.
[06:12:41] The archive shows that four days later, after a somewhat conciliatory message from Stalin,
[06:12:49] FDR flipped.
[06:12:52] It is the president developed second thoughts about endorsing Churchill's call to discourage
[06:12:58] him from making a, and discouraging him from making a hasty speech in the parliament on
[06:13:04] the breakdown of the Polish negotiation.
[06:13:06] I just wanted him to fucking melt down, but he's just taking the long road home to do
[06:13:11] it.
[06:13:12] So let's watch the other baby melt down.
[06:13:13] They were ushered into a building.
[06:13:15] Many of them were arrested without even going into the building.
[06:13:18] You'd be okay with them receiving taxpayer dollars?
[06:13:21] But people were destroyed by dirty cops and by weaponization.
[06:13:27] Many of those people should be compensated.
[06:13:29] Now with that being said, as I understand it, the Weaponization Fund was going to set up
[06:13:35] a group of people, people that could be picked by anybody, fair people, smart people, and
[06:13:42] they will go on an individual case basis.
[06:13:45] Now I don't know what's going to happen with the Weaponization Fund.
[06:13:49] I love the idea because people like you, the fake dirty press, the crooked press, people
[06:13:57] like stupid vibe, he's not smart enough to know what's going on, but people that surrounded
[06:14:02] him, surrounded his beautiful Resolute Desk in the Oval Office, what they did to the lives
[06:14:09] of people, they destroyed people, they sent people to jail who did nothing wrong.
[06:14:14] It's just to be very clear. There's no evidence of what you're saying. But listen to me. Let's
[06:14:21] talk about this tremendous evidence. There's nothing but evidence. The election was rigged.
[06:14:26] It was a dirty election. And it's happening again right now in California. It's happening
[06:14:32] right now in California. Right now it's looking. Look at what's happening in California. It's
[06:14:38] four days in California. It's yeah, but not in not in Los Angeles. They're lying. They're
[06:14:44] lying. They're taking the votes away from Spencer Pratt.
[06:15:03] Yeah.
[06:15:04] They're not there. They're dropping fast because it's a rigged election. Let me tell you, it's
[06:15:12] four days and they aren't even close to coming up with it. You know why they're doing that? Because
[06:15:17] they're cheating on the election. What do you have evidence to support that? All I have to do is look.
[06:15:22] All I have to do is look. And I listen to people and let's see what happens. So that's not evidence.
[06:15:28] do you think it's appropriate that they have an election and five days later they're nowhere close
[06:15:36] to picking local officials acknowledge they are slow they're urging no they're true this part is
[06:15:41] this uh how's the interview i think it's from like two days ago or something i don't know but they
[06:15:45] just released it this sunday but it's so fucking i i hate this shit dude republicans are such babies
[06:15:52] like they really need to stop doing this the whole like all the elections are stolen like i
[06:15:57] I was annoyed when like blue and on briefly entertain that as well when Donald Trump won,
[06:16:02] but we can't have a country with this. Okay. Every time Republicans lose, they're going
[06:16:07] to complain and say that it's fucking fake and throw a fit and they're going to try to
[06:16:11] stop the normal electoral process from taking place.
[06:16:14] Like, oh yeah, yeah, I mean, holy fuck, they are actively Trump on your subpoena on Fox
[06:16:24] news. We are Charlie Kirk Indian remix. Yeah, I think I'm not going to click on that.
[06:16:33] I just, I hate, I hate that this is like, this is the new meta. Every time a Republican loses,
[06:16:38] oh, it was stolen. And Republicans have been doing this. It wasn't just Trump. It wasn't Trump.
[06:16:44] Trump definitely accelerated this. He definitely made it worse. I mean, he did January 6. Obviously,
[06:16:50] is probably one of the worst things you can do. But Republicans have been entertaining this,
[06:16:55] like, elections are stolen, you know, Mexicans are illegally voting nonsense for decades at this
[06:17:01] point. But this is probably the stupidest version of that argument, because you're talking about
[06:17:07] a place that voted for Kamala Harris by, like, plus 53, I think. Like, Los Angeles, California,
[06:17:13] Kamala Harris over Trump was like a plus 53 city, right? It's a deeply blue city. There's
[06:17:22] rich people, there's rich assholes here for sure, but that was two years ago, okay? Trump's
[06:17:28] popularity has diminished quite a bit since then. So the idea that like Spencer Pratt,
[06:17:34] Timu fucking Trump was actually going to be able to like, as a literal Trump carbon copy,
[06:17:43] in this fucking election or have a direct shot at it is idiotic.
[06:17:48] Yeah, dude, LA Los Angeles is stealing the votes. It's also deeply stupid because if
[06:18:06] there was a electoral theft mechanism at play here that Karen Bass and the Democratic
[06:18:11] party machine was, was deploying, they would actually ensure that Spencer Pratt won.
[06:18:17] Other than California, a couple of years ago, it's very annoying that the state takes so
[06:18:24] long to count ballots, but Spencer Pratt losing ground is not a conspiracy. He's totally
[06:18:27] predictable. California allows voters to send their ballots on election day. They have a
[06:18:31] week to get theirs. And some ballots that will still be counted have yet to even arrive.
[06:18:35] Left-leaning people are very, are more likely to vote by mail. Right-leaning people of which
[06:18:40] there are fewer in the layer, more skeptical of it. So it allows, it easily follows that
[06:18:44] Pratt, more Pratt voters would vote at the actual ballot boxes, not rocket science. Maybe
[06:18:48] Calvin's law should change a week after an election is a very long time to still be accepting
[06:18:52] ballots. And it damages trust in the process, but a registered Republican heading for a loss
[06:18:57] in one of the most progressive cities in the world is not a shocker
[06:19:09] yeah
[06:19:10] my god i can't finish
[06:19:15] like your crooked your precious but it would be the presence of the fair i'm
[06:19:19] not going to let me know you play right into the hands of the city really the
[06:19:23] crooked or your stupid
[06:19:24] You play right into their hands with this rep.
[06:19:27] You know that these elections are rigged.
[06:19:30] Your network knows that they're rigged.
[06:19:33] You know that I won an election in a landslide,
[06:19:37] and I got 94% bad press.
[06:19:39] But Mr. President, you've never presented evidence.
[06:19:40] You know why I got that?
[06:19:41] Because you have no credibility.
[06:19:43] But you've never presented evidence that it was rigged.
[06:19:45] Let's keep talking about it.
[06:19:45] I want to talk about top politics.
[06:19:46] You have more evidence.
[06:19:48] There's more evidence than ever presented.
[06:19:51] Let's talk about it.
[06:19:51] Your elections in this country were like a third world.
[06:19:54] country. Your elections are crooked and you're crooked. And dog, you're the president. Who do you
[06:20:01] mean your elections? This is another thing that I'm confused by when he says like your elections
[06:20:05] are crooked. Dog, you mean our elections, right? Because you're the president right now. You are
[06:20:12] the beneficiary of the crooked elections. Did they, did they go crooked in your direction this time?
[06:20:18] was it too big to rig he's so red he's so mad oh my god
[06:20:24] Mr. Press is crooked and so is abc and cbs and cnn you're one-sided
[06:20:31] crooked network let's call it quits because i've had it
[06:20:34] thank you darling have a good time mr president let's please i traveled all
[06:20:38] the way to wisconsin i've traveled all i know i've traveled all the way for an
[06:20:43] hour on and off in the rain and i've given you enough time
[06:20:47] You want to straighten out your press because you know what?
[06:20:49] A country can never be grinched with a dishonor.
[06:20:52] Listen, you traveled all the way to Wisconsin for the community.
[06:20:57] Oh my god, he broke it. He stepped on it.
[06:21:04] Yo! What the fuck?
[06:21:11] God, he walks like he shit his pants.
[06:21:13] I spoke with President Trump on Saturday, and we both acknowledged the complications
[06:21:19] during the interview posed by the rain.
[06:21:22] He agreed to sit down with me for another Meet the Press interview.
[06:21:26] Oh my god, our president's a fucking baby.
[06:21:32] I don't want to get all white feminists with this shit, but remember when in 2016, one of
[06:21:37] the major points that Trump supporters would constantly advance was Hillary Clinton as
[06:21:42] a woman and she's too emotional to be president. You didn't hear that that much in the last
[06:21:50] election cycle. Perhaps it was because Trump had been president already and we knew exactly
[06:21:55] how fucking emotional he is. Genuinely, he's all women are too emotional. We can't have
[06:22:04] Hillary Rodham Clinton be president. What if she has a period? It's like, first of all,
[06:22:09] I don't think you have to worry about that. And secondly, that's insane.
[06:22:18] Yeah, women will lead us into war.
[06:22:29] Hi, yeah, yeah.
[06:22:33] He is, he cannot regulate his, his feelings at all.
[06:22:39] Like, not even a little bit. Jesus Christ, dude. What a fucking bitch he is. Anyway,
[06:22:47] let's get back to other people who are pro-Israel, who are mauling and can't regulate their
[06:22:51] feelings. Just a quick comment from a veteran of three decades of middle-aged and problems
[06:22:54] IE. You cannot ever let a terrorist entity or a supporters get the upper hand in last
[06:22:58] shot. Violence must be met with overwhelming violence. Trump's request to Israel tonight
[06:23:02] to not strike Iran after the ballistic missile attacks is just dead wrong and very dangerous.
[06:23:06] Also the U.S. is retaliating immediately after recent Iranian attacks every time, asking
[06:23:11] Israel not to do the same is preposterous.
[06:23:13] Hasn't Pauli Marappalli been constantly warned that the Trump is the greatest threat to U.S.
[06:23:19] democracy in history?
[06:23:20] Yet here he wants Trump to unleash Israel and reignite the Iran war, giving the greatest
[06:23:23] threat ever to U.S. democracy.
[06:23:25] Another go at burning it down.
[06:23:27] Yeah, because a lot of these guys are Israel first and so is he.
[06:23:34] I don't know where there's loyalty comes from.
[06:23:39] Bro's last name is literally Polly Market.
[06:23:42] Yeah, true.
[06:23:43] That's where it comes from for him.
[06:23:45] He put a Polly Market bet down.
[06:23:47] That's his name.
[06:23:47] He owns it.
[06:23:48] He's Mr. Polly Marketopolis.
[06:24:04] He's likely the reason that this happened
[06:24:15] Yeah
[06:24:18] It's so funny that this is caused first of all
[06:24:22] Once again, this guy's supposed to be like an election Twitter guy
[06:24:25] And I think he's basically shown himself to be a complete fucking of fraud and an insane person
[06:24:31] But like so many of these guys showed their ass
[06:24:34] Okay, after election night, where they were just like, well, one, they didn't realize
[06:24:41] that I wasn't even fucking like frustrated about Nithya Raman because I was super excited
[06:24:46] about Nithya Raman.
[06:24:48] But I was actually frustrated because Spencer Pratt was actually doing quite well.
[06:24:54] Okay, that's number one in my city.
[06:24:59] And I find that to be unconscionable and disgusting.
[06:25:04] number one, number two, they were wrong. They were fucking wrong. And they gave me credit
[06:25:12] for her defeat, which I guess means they should give me credit for her victory, right? Except
[06:25:18] that's obviously not how this goes. And I don't want the fucking credit regardless.
[06:25:27] What is this part? Yeah, I saw this. I mean, this one actually pissed me off. Part of me
[06:25:31] He wants L side and planet to be our nominees for the races so they can lose.
[06:25:34] The other part doesn't want either of the VR nominees because we will lose.
[06:25:37] What are we going to do?
[06:25:39] Yeah.
[06:25:41] None of this makes sense for the record.
[06:25:53] These are supposed to be the vote blue, no matter who, guys, by the way, Harry Puder
[06:25:57] over here.
[06:25:58] None of this makes sense.
[06:26:00] it also contradicts their original assessment that like I had to endorse Kamala Harris and it was
[06:26:05] key to her victory. Okay, I was key to Kamala Harris' victory, but now they're saying my endorsement,
[06:26:17] which I didn't even give to Nithyaraman. I simply interviewed her.
[06:26:22] her. But, but that is the reason why she lost. So I guess if I had endorsed Kamala Harris,
[06:26:33] she Kamala Harris would have lost as well. She did anyway. So none of that fucking makes
[06:26:39] sense. The only thing that is consistent here is that, you know, it's so strange to just
[06:26:47] like, verbalize this, like, say it out loud. But they literally have anchored their entire
[06:26:55] worldview off of just opposing whatever they have imagined I'm in support of. Okay? And
[06:27:08] I don't know why people live like that. Like, I don't like Asmongold, but that's not like
[06:27:16] a personal vendetta that I have towards Asmongold, I would have no problem with Asmongold if
[06:27:21] he just like stuck to, I don't know, talking about titties and video games or whatever,
[06:27:24] instead of trying to constantly admittedly be a funnel to Nick Fuentes's odious white
[06:27:31] supremacist neo-Nazi politics. I wouldn't give a shit about Asmongold at all. I'd have
[06:27:36] no problems with them. As a matter of fact, for the longest time, I had no problems with
[06:27:38] Asmongold, right? But although I oppose, although I oppose Asmongold's worldview, if Asmongold
[06:27:51] were to say something that I agree with, I wouldn't automatically change my entire worldview
[06:27:57] with this new information and turn around and decide it's actually bad. If Asmongold was
[06:28:01] like, I'm in favor of Medicare for all, I wouldn't be like, I hate Medicare for all
[06:28:04] now. If Osmogol came out and said, and he did do this, by the way, if, if Osmogol came
[06:28:11] out and said something to support us or I'm on Danny, which he did, what did I say at
[06:28:15] the time? I said, great, fantastic. That didn't, that didn't cause me to go, oh, I fucking hate
[06:28:21] Zara. I'm on Danny now. I hope he loses because maybe I'm 34 years old. Okay. Or maybe I'm
[06:28:28] just an adult or maybe not as extremely online as these guys are, which is strange because
[06:28:33] I spend every waking moment online as a part of my job, but I genuinely don't understand
[06:28:40] how you can just see like someone that you hate so much, aligned with a particular politician,
[06:28:50] and instead of looking at their policies, you decide you hate that politician now and
[06:28:54] you want that politician to lose.
[06:28:58] I truly, truly cannot comprehend that.
[06:29:00] I don't know how it works that way.
[06:29:02] I don't know how your brain works that way.
[06:29:07] Like, is there nothing you value at all?
[06:29:17] He now calls Zoran a terrorist Islamist jihadist.
[06:29:19] He believes in nothing.
[06:29:20] Yeah.
[06:29:23] Like, how have you anchored your foundational world view around
[06:29:29] consistently opposing a fucking Twitch streamer.
[06:29:36] It's very weird.
[06:29:39] It's deeply unserious and yet so many people do it.
[06:29:42] I mean, this dovetails into the conversation
[06:29:44] that this guy, this account that I actually like
[06:29:46] and interact with quite a bit put forth.
[06:29:51] Apparently this is how some,
[06:29:53] this is how lives need to think about
[06:29:55] Grand Platinum and says this account,
[06:29:56] it's Sex Pestiny, it's Epstein,
[06:29:58] Finally, it's his name, and it's Platner and a Republican on the ballot.
[06:30:02] As long as there is breath in my body,
[06:30:05] hand can grip a pen and can mark a ballot.
[06:30:07] I'm voting for the blue guy. Platner, we're going to vote.
[06:30:09] But do not expect me to come out here and simp for him or actively defend him when he is in bed.
[06:30:16] Oh no, what will we do?
[06:30:19] What will, what will Mainers do, guys?
[06:30:21] Epstein, the guy who is currently in a court case for distributing
[06:30:26] Uh, revenge porn in exchange for child sexual abuse material, uh, is, is, that has written
[06:30:35] an N-word manifesto on his right to be able to say the N-word has decided that he's not
[06:30:40] gonna defend Grand Platinum.
[06:30:42] Okay.
[06:30:43] Well, I'm glad that he at least says he's gonna vote Blue No Matter Who, at least he's
[06:30:46] got that principle down.
[06:30:47] That's good.
[06:30:48] With all of the worst f***ing people on the planet with these f***ing Tanki Kami loser
[06:30:51] f***s.
[06:30:52] For all I know, this guy could be Federman 2.0.
[06:30:55] Unfortunately, why does he hate John Fetterman?
[06:31:00] Isn't John Fetterman literally everything that he likes?
[06:31:03] John Fetterman and Epstein have the same level of admiration and support for the nation-state
[06:31:09] of Israel.
[06:31:12] Yeah, John Fetterman became aligned with Epstein.
[06:31:19] As a matter of fact, I'm willing to bet there's probably instances initially when John Fetterman
[06:31:24] was making that pro-Israel pivot, where Epstein probably defended him.
[06:31:30] I'm sure there's clips of it out there, because why wouldn't he?
[06:31:33] He was dick-sucking Israel super hard, just like Federman was.
[06:31:37] Even Federman is preferable to a Republican, but I don't expect anybody to be happy about it.
[06:31:41] It's so funny, because you talk to these stupid fucking lefty commie fucks, okay?
[06:31:46] And you're like, did you guys ever support Kamala?
[06:31:47] And they're like, yeah, go back and look.
[06:31:49] And every single video is like, well, Trump is bad, Trump is bad, Trump is bad, Trump is bad, Trump is bad, Trump is bad.
[06:31:52] with the Democrat be better
[06:31:55] The song said no multiple times. Yeah, the message was mixed at best
[06:31:58] But now all of the commies seem to understand hold on
[06:32:02] It's not enough to just say that I guess you'd sort what are you need to be excited about you got to be
[06:32:05] Enthusiastic like none of this stuff matter. I don't really care about that at all
[06:32:10] He there this is a
[06:32:13] This is a complete straw man. I don't give a fuck if he doesn't I mean if he comes out against
[06:32:19] That's a violation of any principles that he may have tried to maintain.
[06:32:26] But outside of that, I don't give a fuck.
[06:32:28] What is this?
[06:32:29] He literally didn't know who Susan Collins was.
[06:32:30] But none of you motherfuckers would support.
[06:32:32] Susan Collins, actually, that bet, I don't even know.
[06:32:37] Everybody in my subreddit hates her.
[06:32:38] She's a Republican, but she does sometimes.
[06:32:39] Oh, never mind.
[06:32:40] Don't care.
[06:32:41] Don't care.
[06:32:42] I didn't even know that.
[06:32:43] I'm retarded.
[06:32:44] Nevermind.
[06:32:45] I didn't know.
[06:32:46] She's a Republican.
[06:32:47] Fuck her.
[06:32:48] I'm concerned Collins Susan. I'm concerned Collins
[06:32:53] Susan. I'm the most moderate Trump critic Collins
[06:32:57] How the fuck do you not even know the most basic shit?
[06:33:02] That's insane he just openly is like I don't know who the fuck Susan Collins is that's am I crazy?
[06:33:07] I feel like Susan Collins is like the
[06:33:10] Fake Joe mansion of the Republicans. She's famous for that reason. She's famous for constantly being like oh, I'm concerned
[06:33:17] I'm concerned about what Trump is doing. And then going along with Trump's agenda 98% of the way
[06:33:25] She's not like some random person. You know, I mean, there's not like knowing about Angus King. Okay
[06:33:30] Susan Collins is a is a a known entity
[06:33:34] Better than the wrong type of sentence with these guys because he doesn't play ball someone like Jared golden is the right play
[06:33:39] Right of the party to a place ball in the big bills for the most part. Oh, they're party men at the end of the day
[06:33:43] Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, Jared golden is a is a great example. You're right
[06:33:47] that she's an in world demon wait who's the other person in this race it's just
[06:33:57] platinum and I think her wait who's ever dropped I'm pretty sure oh I was
[06:34:03] thinking of mills I was thinking of mills I don't think those actually when
[06:34:06] not
[06:34:12] They hate me for speaking the truth
[06:34:16] Oh muse. Yeah, you've been popping off
[06:34:19] Our our our main or lobster head has an obi head in the chat
[06:34:29] Our main or lobster head muse pwt
[06:34:31] Another lobster head actual lobster head his reddit was glazing featherman whenever he should shows his support for Israel
[06:34:42] Based featherman's a treasure above a base
[06:34:46] Fetterman is the hero America needs
[06:34:49] That's what I mean like these guys have no fucking principles. They just like became pros were because he's
[06:34:54] Pro is real also one of the funniest things that people fucking claim
[06:34:58] about Graham Plattner is that, and it immediately shows that your analysis is exclusive to the
[06:35:07] Internet, okay? I'm not gonna play this video yet. But I saw, I think it was the Hossborough
[06:35:13] points that was also saying like, the Internet made Graham Plattner, the left is the reason
[06:35:18] why Graham Plattner is a thing.
[06:35:21] None of you guys know anything about elections if you are making such an unbelievably stupid
[06:35:29] assessment, okay?
[06:35:31] Your brain has been poisoned by what you see on Twitter.
[06:35:35] Your brain has been poisoned by what you see on Reddit.
[06:35:37] Your brain has been poisoned by the communities that you spend a good deal of time in, where
[06:35:42] they constantly talk about these idiotic narratives.
[06:35:45] That's why it's also funny because when he was like, oh, it's these fucking Kami Tanki
[06:35:49] bullshit that like support Grand Platner. The people that this sex pass with consider
[06:35:56] Kami Tanki motherfuckers actually hate Grand Platner, okay? That's number one. Number two,
[06:36:03] Grand Platner's base of support is not the youth vote, okay? Grand Platner's biggest supporters
[06:36:11] are not the young voters of Maine. I'm sure there are plenty of young voters in Maine
[06:36:15] will vote for him, but you're out of your fucking mind. The average voter age in Maine is, I believe,
[06:36:21] 48 years old. Okay? It's all old white people. These are ride-or-die Democrats and independents
[06:36:30] that are sick and tired of Donald Trump molesting the fucking money. Okay? And they're also very
[06:36:35] frustrated with the Democratic Party's bullshit centrism. The old, the whites, the old whites are
[06:36:43] frustrated. And I've been saying this for months. Actually, not even for months. I've been saying
[06:36:49] this for the last two years as a matter of fact. If you recall, I always repeat to all of you,
[06:36:56] I'm like, I go around the country, I go to these fucking protests, I go to the No Kings rallies,
[06:37:00] what do I see? I see old white people, old white people that aren't just saying,
[06:37:06] we want more centrism, old white people that are saying Bernie was right and we were wrong for
[06:37:11] for saying Bernie was wrong.
[06:37:16] Yeah, nothing has changed in the last year.
[06:37:22] Old liberal voters just want fighters because they're too pissed at Trump and Plattner's
[06:37:25] a fighter who calls them fascists.
[06:37:27] People who characterize him as left or DSA are fundamentally misunderstanding his appeal.
[06:37:30] Absolutely.
[06:37:31] Let's look at Graham Plattner's commie tanky base now.
[06:37:41] Does this look like a DSA meeting?
[06:37:43] Maybe DSA pre-2016, certainly, but there wouldn't be this many people in one room for the DSA
[06:37:48] before 2016 anyway.
[06:37:50] But does this look like a Democratic Socialism of America meeting?
[06:37:53] Do you think this is the fucking campus caucus?
[06:37:59] These are people who are around when motherfucking Karl Marx was around!
[06:38:03] What the fuck are you talking about, the DSA tankies?
[06:38:06] You only arrive at this conclusion if your brain is fucking rotted from the shit that
[06:38:11] you see on the internet, stop believing these fucking dickheads, okay? They are always going
[06:38:17] to lead you astray. This is pure personal vendetta masquerading as real political analysis.
[06:38:25] And there are so many fucking idiots out there who believe it. They go along with it because
[06:38:32] it's much easier to keep up with drama. It's much easier to present people as villains
[06:38:38] on the internet. And then just focus on the fucking dumb nonsensical drama. Oh, Hassan
[06:38:43] has done this again. Hassan has done that again. I fucking hate Hassan. So I believe
[06:38:47] Hassan, now they're telling me Hassan is actually promoting Graham Platter and he loves
[06:38:51] Graham Platter and he chose, he personally hand-selected Graham fucking Platter. And
[06:38:55] therefore I hate him too. He's a bad guy. Where did you arrive at this conclusion? Yeah,
[06:39:00] I feel like this whole Platter situation could have been avoided if a bunch of upper middle
[06:39:03] class left this. Hadn't seen the most obvious red flags imaginable. Thought that's just
[06:39:07] rough salty Ohio Waffle House type working class people are like I blame the New York
[06:39:11] Times they taught people to see stuff like for example a third Waffeness's Panzer Division
[06:39:16] Totem Calf and think now there's a man with economic anxiety what a stupid fucking assessment
[06:39:25] it was main democrats that fucking looked at grand platter and was like and we're like yeah
[06:39:30] this guy speaks to the problems that i'm experiencing this guy speaks to the problems that my
[06:39:36] younger
[06:39:38] The you know my children and my grandchildren are experiencing because they're all this fuck for the most part
[06:39:46] So I I find it so strange but also very fucking revealing
[06:39:54] I find it very revealing when these guys say stuff like this it basically shows that their whole
[06:40:01] Uh perspective
[06:40:03] Their whole world view, their entire understanding of American politics revolves around their
[06:40:12] animosity that they've developed against certain content creators.
[06:40:17] This is no way to do politics.
[06:40:18] Okay?
[06:40:19] And Tanazi quote says, again, like I said, an account that I've interacted with a lot
[06:40:23] and I think is very smart, says, something doesn't even want this having common is obsessive
[06:40:28] focus on other streamers.
[06:40:29] on this, Nico, that their lives are consumed with petty betrayals, rivalries, and never
[06:40:33] ending psychosexual dramas.
[06:40:34] I am less bullish than I used to be on streamers as political organizers.
[06:40:37] I liked it.
[06:40:38] And he said, you too, Hasan.
[06:40:41] I said, huge, huge problem in my sphere.
[06:40:44] I try to do my best to stay out of it.
[06:40:46] Although a massive chunk of people online actually only follow politics through watching
[06:40:49] slot by narcissists advancing their personal vendettas that they claim is making a political
[06:40:54] difference.
[06:40:55] A point that I've brought up over and over again, constantly, not stop, yeah.
[06:41:00] Again, Ed and Jermantham is right. The thing that got him in this position was an upper middle class leftist.
[06:41:04] It was the overwhelming majority of main Democrats who preferred him over the incumbent governor.
[06:41:07] That's the fulcrum of power you need to focus on if you want to understand this.
[06:41:12] Thonna Nancy says,
[06:41:14] I'm sure the average consumer's financial and psychological incentives are at odds with their political incentives.
[06:41:18] To the degree that you do stay out of the slop, I assume this is why you've ended up at rallies for major candidates and others haven't.
[06:41:24] Which, by the way, I disagree with the last assessment here, because he almost presents
[06:41:28] it as arriving at political rallies for major candidates as a fucking good thing for me,
[06:41:34] as though this is a prize that I've been able to win.
[06:41:37] Okay?
[06:41:38] Huh.
[06:41:39] Which, you know, I didn't make much of a stink about, but I also don't fully agree with,
[06:41:44] right?
[06:41:45] I don't agree with that assessment.
[06:41:47] It's not a prize for me that I've worked hard for.
[06:41:49] Okay?
[06:41:50] it's if anything is a prize for them for actually abiding by the interest of the masses
[06:41:56] so let's just make that very clear
[06:42:02] as i have a community center on advancing political goals as opposed to mass
[06:42:05] harassment of my inner enemies that's my focus and that's the reason i thought
[06:42:08] is reach out and try to win over my community that's why canada's ask for
[06:42:12] my attendance at their rallies
[06:42:15] i don't ask candidates
[06:42:17] to do rallies or to be a part of the rallies, they ask me to go to the rallies.
[06:42:22] Important.
[06:42:24] Reply to this, gives the game away, what is this?
[06:42:28] Does the sound have zero agency and a culpability for his own immaturity?
[06:42:32] You're infantilizing 30 plus your oligies beyond Costco's for his own stupidity.
[06:42:36] What is this? I hold a mirror up and none of you, what is this? Lamal.
[06:42:56] The world is so much better when Algo stopped beating politics a lot to everyone,
[06:42:59] so these unserious people can go back to Washington Joe Rogan all day. I like that he
[06:43:02] He calls me on series. I'll hold a mirror up to you all and none of you like what you
[06:43:06] see.
[06:43:07] I have no problem with the amount of research I put into debating any of these position people
[06:43:09] like Hassan spends zero time doing any research. Why are you defending yourself in the claim
[06:43:12] that you limit your influence by focusing too much on streamer drama by saying that
[06:43:16] Hassan does less research than you. I know he does less research than you, but it has
[06:43:19] nothing to do with the claim I made. Okay. This nevermind. I take back everything I said
[06:43:23] about this guy.
[06:43:24] I do less research than destiny. Dude, I swear to God for like, there is definitely, there's
[06:43:31] definitely a particular brand of autism that is so unbelievably appealing to
[06:43:38] every poster on the internet where they go no he has he's doing he's reading
[06:43:44] Wikipedia articles to fucking to develop talking points that he can have like
[06:43:49] good solid gotchas on the internet on and that's it that's the extent of his
[06:43:53] research is most of his stream is just fucking rewatching videos of mine which
[06:43:58] includes probably this one because I just brought him up so I'm sure he'll
[06:44:01] He'll take a tremendous amount of pleasure off of that.
[06:44:06] I swear to God, these guys genuinely think he's like a fucking god at debating.
[06:44:17] If he's doing so much research, why is he always wrong?
[06:44:21] How much research did he deploy with his, I guess, his political instincts are really
[06:44:26] bad then?
[06:44:27] Because how much research was he fucking deploying when he said Joe Biden shouldn't drop out?
[06:44:31] As a matter of fact, he debated that position on Jubilee, literally, and by the time the fucking video came out, Joe Biden had dropped out.
[06:44:39] How much research did he deploy when deciding to take the opposite stance of mind on the Israel issue,
[06:44:45] and spent two and a half fucking years, three years defending Israel's genocide,
[06:44:49] with increasingly more unhinged takes, where he got ritualistically humiliated by Norm Finkelstein, because Norm Finkelstein actually knows the fuck he's talking about?
[06:44:57] How much research are you deploying when he goes, I don't know who Susan Collins is while
[06:45:03] talking about Graham Plattner?
[06:45:09] Because I'm forced to respond to drama claims when other people are making them.
[06:45:12] If it's not constantly laundering Kiwi farms and snarker, what is a snarker opinion?
[06:45:16] What is this?
[06:45:17] What is this motherfucker talking about?
[06:45:18] About me to his audience, and then if they carry those opinions, the other parts of the
[06:45:21] internet, I have to respond and deal with them.
[06:45:25] The entire online political space has been destroyed by low-information ideologically
[06:45:28] motivated politics streamers who waste everyone's time.
[06:45:39] Maybe this is just the swamp you swim in and there's no getting out seems unlikely to me.
[06:45:43] There are lots of YouTube political commentators who are involved in essentially zero personal
[06:45:45] drama but supposing it for argument's sake.
[06:45:48] But if so, then I'm still right that it puts a ceiling on your political influence.
[06:45:52] Yeah, this guy, I like this guy's opinions. I thought he was intelligent, but he genuinely thinks that
[06:45:59] You know destiny is a fucking intellectual giant. So I it has actually tarnished my opinion of him a little bit
[06:46:09] I'll be I'll be honest
[06:46:16] Yikes
[06:46:18] Guy who fucking spends every waking moment sticking his dick into anything and everything he can, and then ruining his own life, and then immediately.
[06:46:28] Are you serious about D-Not doing more research? He reads more documents and sources that are official than you? That is just true, isn't it?
[06:46:35] No, dude, it is just a fucking... No. It is absolutely fucking propaganda. What are you talking about? That man has never read a fucking book cover to cover. What are you talking about?
[06:46:47] Oh my god, this is what I mean all you need to do is have
[06:46:52] Tremendous confidence and the right level of autism. So you can just be like I'm the most intelligent person he has okay
[06:47:01] If he reads so much why is he always wrong a
[06:47:05] Great question for you guys if he reads so much why is he always wrong?
[06:47:10] So I either he's you know reading a tremendous amount and then arriving at the wrong conclusion
[06:47:15] he's a fucking idiot, or he's not reading at all and he just goes on stream and reads
[06:47:20] a couple primary documents and then you think, oh my God, this is the most brilliant thing
[06:47:24] I've ever seen.
[06:47:26] One of the best examples of this is the Israel-Palestine conversation, because I've had these
[06:47:32] opinions on the conflict born out of all of the materials that I've read on it for
[06:47:37] years before I even decided to fucking become a political commentator, okay?
[06:47:43] There is a, you know, decade of fucking information there that helped me arrive at the conclusions.
[06:47:48] I arrived at on this issue.
[06:47:50] He didn't know anything, decided to lay his claim on one side of the fucking equation,
[06:47:55] which was different than his previous claims against Israel in like 2016, because now he's
[06:47:59] just purely spite driven, okay?
[06:48:03] And then he started doing research on stream by trying to find evidence that would correspond
[06:48:09] to his worldview that would defend his position on the internet and he heavily relied on his
[06:48:14] audience to do so.
[06:48:16] This is how he operates all the fucking time.
[06:48:20] That is precisely the reason why his dumbass audience, okay, look, we're all dumbasses.
[06:48:25] The only difference is I admit that I'm a dumbass, okay?
[06:48:29] But all of our dumbass audiences collectively look at somebody demonstrating the capability
[06:48:36] of reading, okay, on stream and go, oh my god, this is fucking brilliant.
[06:48:42] None of them asked the question, why did he arrive at a conclusion without reading this
[06:48:47] information ahead of time?
[06:48:52] Because unfortunately, his audience is just as fucking stupid, or rather, biased in that
[06:48:57] same exact direction, so they use him as a fucking vehicle to deliver this information
[06:49:02] to a broader audience.
[06:49:04] On the issue of Israel, there were plenty of Osboros that probably loved that there was
[06:49:07] a debate lord that was willing to entertain this otherwise unpopular position, this inhumane
[06:49:14] position that, you know, you were going to be pro-Israel unconditionally.
[06:49:20] That's it.
[06:49:22] So they just kept pumping information to him in real time as he engaged in a post hoc rationalizations
[06:49:32] over and over again. He's not even good at debating anymore. He recently smoked in a
[06:49:45] debate by two 100 view slob tubers? Yeah. In any case. Why do you hold tonnehycy codes
[06:50:06] opinion to a high regard? Has there recently arrived at the anti genocide position? Who's
[06:50:09] you to judge you to be honest? Wait, what? No, this isn't actually tonnehycy codes. This
[06:50:14] This is a fucking, his name is Tana Hissy Quotes, um, it's a, it's a totally different
[06:50:21] account.
[06:50:22] No, Tana Hissy Quotes doesn't, actual, the real Tana Hissy Quotes doesn't know who the
[06:50:26] fuck destiny is.
[06:50:33] You crazy?
[06:50:45] Anyway.
[06:50:57] The point I'm making is that a lot of people look at this as a performance, okay?
[06:51:02] To be fair to this guy, I think he's just seen Clipsey that D was watching or something
[06:51:06] because he's seemingly only seen when you're talking about D, which is fucking rare.
[06:51:09] If his opinion of D is based entirely off of what the sex pest shows to his audience,
[06:51:12] and there's no wonder he thinks this, unfortunately, I can attest to that.
[06:51:17] Yeah.
[06:51:18] Hassan is just, Hassan is making massive impacts in multiple races all around the country.
[06:51:22] Just ask the best potters in the country what they think of him.
[06:51:24] I don't really watch Hassan stuff.
[06:51:26] But when I have, it's mostly been, it's mostly been enraging about sex,
[06:51:30] pestany, or some such nonsense. But that being said, you are right.
[06:51:33] He's become a live political player in a way that other big streamers haven't.
[06:51:42] Okay, maybe he actually has exclusively encountered clips of mine from...
[06:51:51] Yeah, oh, this makes sense. Maybe I'm not trying to be too definitive.
[06:51:54] I don't really like his house politics. I'm much closer to the center
[06:51:56] But I do notice that he's been involving himself in actual races, which is respectable to me
[06:52:01] Yeah, maybe he's like a centrist so he
[06:52:04] He was a former destiny fan or something who was just like frustrated that he constantly gets into sex pest shit
[06:52:15] In my opinion you got to remind people on the internet that you exist outside the stream when you're not live you read research
[06:52:19] etc. just because you're not pulling a brain and Wikipedia leaves on,
[06:52:22] which doesn't mean, yeah, the other side of the story
[06:52:25] that I find very frustrating is that I think a lot of people
[06:52:28] only watch clips of the stream, but they don't actually watch the YouTube videos,
[06:52:32] right? Because if you were to watch the YouTube videos, you would realize that
[06:52:36] all the data that I pull
[06:52:38] from my fucking brain corresponds to actual evidence
[06:52:42] that my editors will go and pull
[06:52:45] from the actual surveys. Like, I will reveal a lot of empirical evidence in the process of doing
[06:52:53] commentary, but usually, I'm just pulling it from my mind. Some people just don't like the
[06:52:59] medium of streaming from politics. This guy seems to be like one of those people. Doesn't really
[06:53:03] matter. You can appeal to the people who do like it. Yeah, I'm not expecting this person to be like
[06:53:08] a fan of streaming, like political streamers. I'm just, I do get frustrated when people
[06:53:15] make this assessment off of like choice clips that they see on the internet.
[06:53:22] And it's oftentimes people who feel like they're above that kind of thing.
[06:53:26] They feel as though they're above being duped by their Twitter algorithm.
[06:53:36] Okay. The reality of the matter is they are getting duped by their Twitter algorithm.
[06:53:45] I thought you were joking when you said hi to people aren't allowed to be cost-free editor had a source ready when I rewatched you on YouTube
[06:54:09] Huh, I tried to do my very best here
[06:54:12] To make this as entertaining as possible politics is fucking boring for the most part
[06:54:17] I try to make it entertaining these other guys make it entertaining by turning it into drama
[06:54:21] Turning it into a clash between one streamer over the other. I try to make it entertaining not through this clash
[06:54:27] But instead by you know cracking jokes
[06:54:31] Making it fun in some way I
[06:54:35] Feel like if I were to sit here and read source material all the fucking time it probably wouldn't be as entertaining for people
[06:54:42] Here's what happens. If California goes red, you never win another national election and
[06:54:51] another national issue ever again. Progressives never win another national issue. They never
[06:54:58] win another, you know, election with Democrats. It just never happens. Like it's already
[06:55:06] It did like
[06:55:09] This is things destiny deeply things destiny believed in a week following October 7th Palestine has an air force
[06:55:14] Palestinians have advanced film production industry which they use to fabricate footage of atrocities
[06:55:19] Palestinian is not a real ethnicity in our secretly Jordanian Hamas makes cookie rockets
[06:55:24] Did destiny really believe the in the Pollywood conspiracy theories?
[06:55:28] I knew he was up to some stupid shit, but it's worse than I expected. Yes
[06:55:30] This is the clip later on in his talking about the subject when he is trying to hedge on the claim that he thinks
[06:55:36] the Pollywood label makes the seem less conspiratorial.
[06:55:52] Somebody died how is this Pollywood?
[06:55:54] Because the goal is to capture shit like this because Western media eats up the fuck up.
[06:55:58] This guy's wife and a whole medical team are what I guess minutes or two walk off camera
[06:56:02] And this guy's gonna walk towards where they know the IDF is, where he's been told to evacuate.
[06:56:06] They know they're gonna get fired at. They're martyrs. They're Shaheed, right?
[06:56:09] This is what they're doing.
[06:56:10] Is they walk forward, hoping to get shot at, and then they're gonna come back.
[06:56:13] They're gonna get video footage, and they bring his wife forward.
[06:56:15] She cries. I mean, just because it's Pollywood doesn't mean somebody didn't actually die, okay?
[06:56:17] These guys are willing to blow themselves up. Of course, they're willing to fucking die on camera.
[06:56:20] So, he comes forward, he gets shot, they bring him back, he dies.
[06:56:23] That's unfortunate. They probably don't want to die. They just want to get shot or shot at.
[06:56:26] Um, bring him back, wife comes forward to cry, hospital people take him away,
[06:56:29] and then they've got their footage, they send it to Western media,
[06:56:32] heartless evil fucking cold hearted monster that just kills civilians
[06:56:36] indiscriminately this is like they literally say they're going into a
[06:56:39] combat zone this is what people mean when they say how is any different than
[06:56:42] Ben Shapiro trying to intellectualize his unbelievably putrid fucking world
[06:56:46] view by the way it's the exact same thing as a matter of fact they are in
[06:56:50] complete alignment on this issue
[06:56:53] But once again, once again, he delivers this information with confidence in a way that
[06:57:05] is like very palatable to not knowledgeable people.
[06:57:09] If you are in any way shape or form knowledgeable or empathetic as a person and you have seen
[06:57:15] the amount of violence that Israel subjected to the Palestinians to over the many years
[06:57:20] Israel is you know operated in Separatite state you obviously hear something like this and you go oh my god
[06:57:25] This is an unbelievably racist narrative. How the fuck did this guy learn about Hasbara?
[06:57:30] He's just some like American Cuban dude. Why the fuck does he why is he so goddamn tapped in like his hand Mazik or something?
[06:57:37] right
[06:57:40] But if you're not knowledgeable if your first interaction with the issue of Israel happens to be this guy whose videos you've seen on the
[06:57:47] internet where he's dunking on some of the stupidest fucking mouth breathers
[06:57:50] you've ever seen and you're like this guy's a beacon of intellect he's a
[06:57:53] giant in his own right he has the capacity to convince you that his world
[06:57:59] view is actually impenetrable it's it's unshakable it's the correct position and
[06:58:03] it's actually the most well-researched position you can arrive at
[06:58:07] that's why he consistently will undermine my positions to be like oh
[06:58:10] he's unserious between me and him I wonder who's the less serious one the
[06:58:15] who fucking watches my stream for the most part, or the guy who's out there like interviewing
[06:58:19] candidates, going to political rallies, organizing, and for the most part, covering the fucking news
[06:58:27] with this very rare exception.
[06:58:30] He is the dumb guy's ideal thinker. He makes dumb guys feel confident.
[06:58:51] He makes dumb guys feel like he's a brilliant person and if they just like try to do a bad job
[06:58:55] it repeating what he's saying that they'll also come across as brilliant.
[06:59:02] In any case, a growing number of Jewish Democrats say they feel increasingly
[06:59:05] unwelcome in the... oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is bullshit.
[06:59:08] Especially when they redistrict everything, right, which they are doing, and they're disenfranchising
[06:59:12] more Democrats, which is good. This is a very good thing. She disenfranchised all of them,
[06:59:17] in my opinion, but we can't do that. That's like illegal or unconstitutional. So we can't do that,
[06:59:21] even though it's obviously the right decision but you know like let's say we
[06:59:25] can't do this the next thing 100% pure copium it is it's complete copium yeah
[06:59:29] if they lose california they lose everything the genocide a good luck
[06:59:33] pro genocide is it doesn't it didn't work you know we are so lucky that his
[06:59:39] son is becoming a more prevalent voice of the left because he's dog that's how
[06:59:43] I feel about you man hey asmongold you should go outside just in general but
[06:59:50] Certainly you should go and tag along with some Republican campaigns. I would love to see that. I
[06:59:57] Would love to see what like the average HVAC business owner living in Terre Haute, Indiana
[07:00:05] Would would look at asmongold ago. This is the guy
[07:00:08] This is the guy I'm supposed to be excited to see I want to know yeah
[07:00:12] Go go knock on some doors for chem packs in in Texas. You're in Texas. That's your guy, right?
[07:00:18] Get on that fucking campaign at camp accent is probably a perfect
[07:00:23] Campaign for him to work with too because like he's also
[07:00:27] disgusting
[07:00:31] Can you say West Lafayette Indiana next time sure you got it West Lafayette Indiana
[07:00:38] Yeah campaign with Toby Durden in South Dakota says so many things that are retarded and easily disprovable that it
[07:00:48] I
[07:00:55] Can't even dunk on this because Asmongold has never been right about anything
[07:01:02] So yes, I welcome a guy like Asmongold saying that my positions are are worded
[07:01:08] Basically sets them up to lose every single time
[07:01:11] like they are actually like these these like fucking these foreigner immigrant
[07:01:16] people that come into America and want to vote based off of foreign issues they
[07:01:21] are an invasive species I am so glad the Democrats are realizing that and then
[07:01:27] freezing them out of the process thank God they don't care about America they
[07:01:32] don't care about America's interests they don't care about Americans they don't
[07:01:36] care about the Constitution, they care. What? I mean, this is, he is like fantasized about
[07:01:44] a totally alternative reality that does not exist. He's saying this is defend Israel,
[07:01:50] by the way. Yeah. Yeah, totally foreign issues of, of, yeah, the, the, the money that the
[07:01:58] anti Zionist cause is sucking up as opposed to the unlimited tax dollars that Israel receives
[07:02:04] 300 billion plus since the exception of the nation state
[07:02:10] You're about how can they weaponize this country's resources to benefit their tribe? Thank God
[07:02:19] How long just been talking about pass out of the mayoral Canada, I don't want to interview house a Navi with Nithya ramen a decent chunk
[07:02:26] Yeah, guy who defended the ice shooting in Minnesota, by the way. Yeah, look, look, these guys are
[07:02:37] utterly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, okay? They're certainly not relevant in American
[07:02:45] politics. And their worldview is seen as repulsive. The way that they're seen by average people is
[07:02:53] is repulsive. That's why I rarely ever encounter their fans in the wild. And when I do, that's
[07:03:03] exactly how you'd expect. But I am 100% in favor of making Asmongold the face of the
[07:03:15] modern conservative movement. As I've said over and over again, I think he is truly
[07:03:21] So, you know, that's, that would be great. That would be beneficial. Republicans would never win another election ever again. So that's awesome.
[07:03:31] Whereas you can literally make the argument that I've become the face of the Democratic Party and yet Democrats are winning elections.
[07:03:38] So I'm not, by the way, I'm not the face of the Democratic Party at all. I'm just saying that these fucking idiots think I am on the right.
[07:03:45] on the right. And yet, the candidates that I associate with,
[07:03:49] candidates that I align with, candidates that I have on my
[07:03:52] stream, even if I don't endorse them, they keep winning. So
[07:03:54] what's up?
[07:04:00] With one exception, Troy Cuttrock or Barty.
[07:04:06] For the record, I don't support candidates because I know
[07:04:12] another easy lock. As a matter of fact, many of the candidates that I support are longshots.
[07:04:18] It's an insurgency. They're going up against the party machine. I support them because
[07:04:26] I believe in them. I support them because I trust them. I support them because they
[07:04:28] will be fighters. They will move American politics in a more productive direction.
[07:04:35] Zoran was a long shot too for sure
[07:04:41] Why did I link up with Zoran because I liked him I liked what he was about I liked what he believed
[07:04:51] Yes, I endorsed Zoran
[07:04:53] when he was at 5% in the primaries because I
[07:04:57] Had confidence that he could win. I had confidence that he was he was
[07:05:01] He was capable of becoming a great politician, a great mayor for New York City.
[07:05:08] And we were right.
[07:05:14] Been staring at this inexplicably anonymous quote for a while, breathtakingly cynical and
[07:05:19] false.
[07:05:20] Very sloppy for Thompson to pass it along without pushback, even by Axios' normal
[07:05:23] tabloid standards, utterly nonsensical, utterly nonsensical baseless, truly what the fuck
[07:05:33] is this guy talking about?
[07:05:34] Yeah, Jewish staffers are some damn positive, privately expressed frustration that their
[07:05:36] views on Israel are more scrutinized by the media, and voters simply because they're Jewish.
[07:05:41] They also urge that some left-wing activists object to Israel being a Jewish state, but
[07:05:45] don't speak out against Islamic governments.
[07:05:47] What the fuck does this second part have to do with anything?
[07:05:52] Is March going to Denver?
[07:05:53] Will you assume the rally?
[07:05:54] Yes.
[07:05:55] So the committee says, if you know American history, this is how it looks.
[07:06:07] Our systems are designed to stop progressive change, but the dam has a top.
[07:06:10] And when the people finally rise up, we can make a lot of change quickly.
[07:06:13] Personally, I agree with the Marxist Unity Group.
[07:06:17] Right?
[07:06:18] Isn't that mug that we needed a new constitution?
[07:06:22] You're talking about the DSA caucus, right?
[07:06:42] Mike at his most anarchist, yeah.
[07:06:46] Anyway, um, okay, that's all I got for today.
[07:06:54] I got to fly out to New York, so I'll see you guys tomorrow from New York City, the
[07:06:59] Istanbul of America, okay?
[07:07:04] We got through a bunch of stuff today.
[07:07:06] We got through a bunch of things, and it was fantastic, seven hours.
[07:07:10] Don't even, yeah, New York City, baby.
[07:07:13] New York, New York.
[07:07:14] already know a business could open in the morning 9 11 can happen this is the
[07:07:20] greatest city of all time new york love you guys see you tomorrow bye bye
[07:07:44] Sonny Los Angeles, California says a song
[07:07:52] Stunlock to the, stunlock to the top, it's just begun
[07:07:59] Cause there is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming
[07:08:10] There is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming
[07:08:21] Leave me when a Chinese train tellin' Kyle Place
[07:08:29] Sonnin' as nin' Chadder loves givin' Greening's Grace
[07:08:37] Zoran winnin' and YC walk too back with the Force
[07:08:45] The roguin' of the left, a knee, a dome, him, though still a corpse
[07:08:53] The Charlie Kirk assassination, the fear, and on the show
[07:09:01] Eight full fucking years of this, plenty more to go
[07:09:09] Doing fun stuff tomorrow, throw PBS up on the screen
[07:09:17] A man-made whore reaction brought to you by this life's dream
[07:09:25] Cause there he is again, the sun is streaming, the sun is streaming
[07:09:35] There he is again, the sun is streaming, the sun is streaming
[07:09:47] Kicked out of the DMC, I row and march the good
[07:09:53] Combatting the propaganda, the shut down people's throats
[07:10:00] CNBS Israeli news, a coup, a regime falls
[07:10:07] A full-blown fascist takeover, and still the duty calls
[07:10:14] Total radicalization coming out to sea
[07:10:21] The system where he'll always fail
[07:10:27] It's up to you and me
[07:10:32] All these daily streams
[07:10:34] Whether short or whether long
[07:10:40] Now millions of people keep it moving right along
[07:10:47] Cause there he is again, the sun is streaming
[07:10:55] The sun is streaming
[07:10:58] There he is again, the sun is streaming
[07:11:04] The sun is streaming
[07:11:09] Hey, what can you say that's BBS for you?
[07:11:14] But he'll play games real soon.
[07:11:17] Just you wait.
[07:11:21] Say, hey, what can you say that's BBS for you?
[07:11:27] But he'll move on real soon.
[07:11:30] Just you wait.
[07:11:31] Ba-da-da, ba-da-da, ba-da-da-da-da-da-da.
[07:11:35] What can you say, hey, that's PBS for you?
[07:11:40] I hope all your alarms will soon
[07:11:43] Just you wait
[07:11:48] What can you say, hey, that's PBS for you?
[07:11:53] But he'll too devised real soon
[07:11:56] Just you wait
[07:12:00] But hey, what can you say, hey, that's PBS for you?
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[07:12:08] Just you wait
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