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07-09-2026 · 8h 02m

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[00:08:55] Okay, dude, fuck it, game awards hunt, uh, once again, when there's like one thing that's
[00:09:10] going on, there's absolutely zero percent chance I could do anything else.
[00:09:13] Everyone is being cringe and cancerous, fuck.
[00:09:16] It's game awards hunt, sorry.
[00:09:17] You're gonna watch the game awards, okay?
[00:09:19] I can't deal with it.
[00:09:20] I know there's 20 minutes left, but they're already showing stuff, and nobody, and I'm
[00:09:24] I mean
[00:09:54] I can't even focus on this anymore because all you motherfuckers keep talking on the
[00:10:10] What?
[00:10:10] There's gonna be a lot of people there.
[00:10:12] Oh dude!
[00:10:36] Dude, megafaunix is literally just like
[00:10:38] hitting the levels of parasocial that, that previously people had never heard of before.
[00:10:45] Ladies and gentlemen, boys, girls, and MBS, I'm a son piker in this house and I broadcast coming
[00:10:49] to you live from sunny California. Los Angeles folks were live and alive and I hope all the boys,
[00:10:55] girls, MBS are having a fantastic one because today's the beautiful day. Today's a wonderful day.
[00:10:58] Today is a Thursday. Ladies and gentlemen,
[00:11:02] then it's thirsty Thursday is Mitch McConnell dead. I know people are coming here for their
[00:11:10] Mitch McConnell news because you know that I've been having sex with him. And the answer
[00:11:18] is no, we're still, we're still hooking up. We're still hooking up. So, uh, so no, hello,
[00:11:26] welcome. It's thirsty Thursday after the election. We're so we bring your swag back.
[00:11:31] It is Thursday, July 9th, 2026 and it's yet another wonderful day, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:11:45] And we are live and alive coming to you from sunny albeit stolen Tongva territory, West
[00:11:52] Hollywood, Los Angeles, California.
[00:11:57] You've been having gay sex with them, you mean?
[00:11:59] Excuse me.
[00:12:00] I've made it clear already. We call it sex
[00:12:06] Okay
[00:12:12] This part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news about what's going on in the world of a son house
[00:12:16] And I'd be piker in between the time period where I press the stop showing a button
[00:12:20] press the stop streaming
[00:12:23] button
[00:12:25] And wait, where did you get this?
[00:12:30] Where did you get this this footage is just between me and Mitch
[00:12:39] Where did you get this yo you have to stop dude
[00:12:45] We don't want our private affairs to be
[00:12:49] Consumed for all to see this is a this was the private video that he sent me
[00:12:54] It's kind of crazy that you guys got access to it
[00:12:57] This is no longer journalism. This is a level of invasive reporting that I don't think is for the public to see.
[00:13:09] It's just me and my man, Mitch McConnell. That's really fucked up.
[00:13:21] Anyway, ladies and gentlemen boys girls and abysses unethical an unethical breach of our private life
[00:13:31] I will be reporting it to the authorities
[00:13:45] Anyway
[00:13:47] So, as I was saying, we're live, we're alive and I hope everyone's having a fantastic one
[00:13:58] because today's a beautiful day. Today's a wonderful day. Today is Thursday, Thursday's
[00:14:02] part of the barcast where I tell you about my personal news about what's going on in
[00:14:05] the world of the Son house and I've been piking between the time period where I press the
[00:14:07] stop streaming button and press the start streaming button. So help me God. That's what
[00:14:11] do and let's be real. Let's be real ladies and gentlemen, I'm a shut ass loser and you already
[00:14:18] know that I've been watching Mad Men. I've been watching Mad Men, you know, Suit Guy era obviously
[00:14:29] and what's the best suit guy show is Mad Men. And it's a really great show but it's also
[00:14:39] So, unbelievable, like the way, the way that women are treated on the show is crazy.
[00:14:49] I also watched the episode on Israel, which was interesting.
[00:14:52] I just watched the episode on Israel.
[00:14:59] The widescreen remaster is so bad.
[00:15:02] I don't think I'm watching the widescreen remaster.
[00:15:03] I think I'm watching the regular one.
[00:15:07] in any case, it's actually crazy. And I don't like the Mammon Era suits. Lappels are too slim.
[00:15:15] Bordewaug Empire had much better menswear than 30s and 40s cutser elite. I agree. I think Bordewaug
[00:15:20] Empire is probably the official suit one. Morocco versus France later, who you got?
[00:15:26] Is that even a question? Come on, man. Come on.
[00:15:31] You better not be skipping that intro Hank what oh on the show. Yeah, I skip it
[00:15:42] Look man, I have that I have to always support I have to always
[00:15:47] Support the underdog that you know this already so France I
[00:15:54] Mean look Morocco's team also has some unsafary characters. Let's be real and Mbappe is the man
[00:16:00] he's the goat, the dictator, but it's France. Like it's, you know, they win all the time.
[00:16:11] Right? Yes, yes, yes. Hucky me.
[00:16:19] I do it. You're not bringing up a new point. I know, I know. We're talking about football.
[00:16:23] Of course, there's a rapist on the team. That's just, that is the quintessential football fact,
[00:16:33] pretty much. Argentina must be stopped at all costs. I agree.
[00:16:44] In any case, that's it. I played a little bit of basketball this morning, got a little bit of sun,
[00:16:51] And that's pretty much it. I didn't do anything always to put a former colonized country over a colonized country yet like the principal stance here is
[00:17:01] Principal stance here is it to to side with Morocco
[00:17:07] Even though the Moroccan government also is you know has gotten into some unsavory shit themselves
[00:17:15] Um, you know, it's, it's a unique one. You know, it's a unique one. I just, I see myself
[00:17:21] out of some of these situations, right? In any case, in any case, in any case, ladies
[00:17:26] and gentlemen, boys, girls, and MBS, uh, we're live, we're alive, um, you didn't see what
[00:17:40] Morocco did in the AFCON. I did not. Uh, most of the French team is colonized, not the colonizers.
[00:17:48] True. There's also that. Where are you going? Where are you going? Where is, what is this new meta?
[00:17:55] Kaya, and Kaya has, uh, figured out how to, uh, open all of the doors in the house.
[00:18:03] And sometimes she'd just be like, she'd just be like, all right, I'm good.
[00:18:07] Like, whenever there's someone outside, whenever there's like people walking back and forth,
[00:18:15] she will just use her nose to just like slide open the sliding door.
[00:18:22] No barriers to maintain or no, there's literally, here's the thing, it's not even a joke.
[00:18:28] There's not a single door.
[00:18:29] I don't think that she can't open in this house unless it's locked.
[00:18:33] As a matter of fact, I had to take the, when she was a baby, I had to unscrew one of the
[00:18:39] locks out of my bedroom, because like, if I kept her in the bedroom one time, she, when
[00:18:45] she was trying to open the door, she accidentally locked herself in.
[00:18:49] So I had to literally unscrew one of those locks.
[00:18:53] Um, yeah.
[00:19:03] She just, there is not a single door she can't open unless they're locked.
[00:19:08] And then accidentally sometimes she ends up locking herself, which is not great.
[00:19:17] So I guess jump 20 cents from yesterday, we're so good, we're so back, you mean?
[00:19:23] Don't you feel patriotic?
[00:19:26] Don't you feel patriotic?
[00:19:27] We have to do that.
[00:19:29] We have to do that.
[00:19:30] That's normal and good.
[00:19:33] I had great, great names that learned to bite the door. I haven't turned it. Okay.
[00:19:36] You guys want to know something?
[00:19:40] I, uh, I need to show you guys a TikTok video
[00:19:45] of a long lost, a long lost relative of Kaya.
[00:19:50] Okay. Uh, this guy went on a delivery.
[00:19:56] This guy went on a, uh, a delivery. Hold on.
[00:19:59] Oh God, TikTok on the desktop is so ass like impossible.
[00:20:04] Oh, here it is.
[00:20:05] What's up?
[00:20:06] This guy went on a delivery journey on TikTok.
[00:20:08] He's got 5.6 million likes already.
[00:20:12] This is literally a relative of Kai.
[00:20:13] I'm not even kidding.
[00:20:14] Let's see.
[00:20:15] Don't tell me his name.
[00:20:16] Someone call you Ben.
[00:20:17] You look like a Ben.
[00:20:18] A big Ben.
[00:20:19] Yes, those are coming.
[00:20:20] I got to sit down in your package first.
[00:20:21] Excuse me.
[00:20:22] Where are we going?
[00:20:23] We're going to the beach.
[00:20:24] We're going to the beach.
[00:20:25] We're going to the beach.
[00:20:26] We're going to the beach.
[00:20:27] We're going to the beach.
[00:20:28] We'll be going. This is exactly like this is the exact same vibes Akai. I'm not even kidding
[00:20:35] straight up
[00:20:37] back door
[00:20:41] Right back here on this table
[00:20:47] Down to the nosy like smell down to like
[00:20:51] Like, prodding you with the nose, Kai does the exact same shit, and then this part is
[00:20:57] the best.
[00:20:58] You wanna get in the picture?
[00:21:00] Immediately strikes a pose.
[00:21:02] Immediately strikes a pose.
[00:21:04] Again.
[00:21:05] You look great.
[00:21:06] Okay, Big Ben, see if you can catch one of these.
[00:21:08] And she can't catch shit.
[00:21:09] Okay, my friend, the whole world is watching.
[00:21:12] Can you catch?
[00:21:13] No, but that's okay.
[00:21:14] The sun is right in your eyes.
[00:21:15] It ain't your fault.
[00:21:16] Try again.
[00:21:17] Can you catch?
[00:21:18] catch this is literally right in the middle bro all you had to do was open
[00:21:24] wait is she like actually related to that dog no but she has the exact same
[00:21:29] qualities when I was watching this I was like this is literally this has to be
[00:21:34] like a relative of kaya both tubby always smiling and then when she does
[00:21:40] other thing you'll see this yes trying to catch like this and then the and then
[00:21:49] the flip and then the belly flip straight up that did not work all right
[00:21:53] but you didn't catch anything today but that's all right look at her smile look
[00:21:57] at a smile next time because I've already fed you like eight of them
[00:22:03] This is straight up her bro. This is actually her. She's always on her back in the exact
[00:22:12] same way. Zulk is killing us all. DailyBacteria found a major USC's water system trace to
[00:22:19] mark Mark Zuckerberg's $800 million meta-data center protect radar. Nice. I feel like you're
[00:22:25] doing dog racism. She takes after her father. She's actually quite trim. Stop it. Be nice.
[00:22:35] Not she a big girl. She, she girthy. She big Bertha. Um, in any case, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:22:46] Um, where was I? Yeah, there ain't no, there, there ain't nothing else going on in my life.
[00:22:57] There's nothing else going on in the world of a son house and I would piker. Let's just
[00:23:00] blast off and let's do it.
[00:23:11] Let's just do it. Let's, let's, let's get it twisted. We got a lot going on Iran war
[00:23:15] back on the menu for all the situation monitors. Um, yeah, we're going to be, we're going to
[00:23:24] be watching, uh, three men who were in a van with, uh, with the victim when I shot someone in Texas,
[00:23:30] potential witnesses, uh, obviously we were talking about that Iran Wars back on situation, monitor time,
[00:23:36] NATO summit ends planner drops out main dems to pick replacement ice kills Texas man get in now
[00:23:50] Twitch.tv slash Hassan Avi
[00:23:55] The reckless Ben Lego thing too
[00:24:01] Are you endorsing count bin face sure why not I mean anybody but fucking Nigel right
[00:24:06] Um, yeah, ice is ramping up nationwide chat. They did 10,000 detentions in five days nationwide
[00:24:18] and aren't slowing down. Please show up for your neighbors. Ice rr.com. Are you in a polyamorous
[00:24:26] relationship daily now? Would says Michel Collin, Margaret quality or reportedly dating? Yes, we
[00:24:33] We are Polly. Yeah. I did. Why, bro, why are, why are esteemed reporters over at parody
[00:24:41] hip hop news daily nude getting into our fucking business like this? Okay. Yes. Yes. Mitch has,
[00:24:50] Mitch is a whole lot of man. He's got enough for both of us. Okay. That's crazy. Guys,
[00:25:00] Stop. This is nobody else's business. It's just me, Mitch, and now, Margaret Qualey.
[00:25:07] You feel me? I just don't want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about my man doing
[00:25:17] other things out there. It's not for you guys to know about. It's just between me and Mitch.
[00:25:29] His wife was asked why she left for China and hasn't come back yet.
[00:25:33] And she was like, his cardiac arrest was not a life threatening situation.
[00:25:39] It's fine.
[00:25:40] That's what she said.
[00:25:42] I hate her.
[00:25:44] She hates what we have.
[00:25:53] It is pretty crazy.
[00:25:57] Then why was he on a date with his other random guy?
[00:25:58] He gets around bro. He gets around. I went out to lunch with mission comp today. It was quite irritating
[00:26:03] He kept answering his phone to have 20 minute conversations. He didn't touch his chicken scissors Caesar salad. My close sandwich was pretty good though
[00:26:10] Yeah
[00:26:14] Yeah
[00:26:16] It's true
[00:26:18] She went back to China for the housing market
[00:26:21] What are you gonna do if he's actually alive? I mean then he can
[00:26:25] Then he can deny that we have had numerous sexual conversations on the phone, but I don't
[00:26:34] think we're going to have to worry about that.
[00:26:37] I'm going to keep it a buck 50 with you.
[00:26:39] I don't think we have to worry about that.
[00:26:47] I'm working on a theory.
[00:26:50] You got added in the database, Madison Square Garden kept a list of gay celebrities.
[00:26:55] Yeah. If you recall, I wasn't a celebrity enough to be added into any of the surveillance
[00:27:03] lists. So we're good.
[00:27:12] What is this? Thought this girl was woke 1.0 kill all men. So I tried your always right
[00:27:17] gimmick, but she actually was woke 2.0 anti bio essentialism and I gave her the ick.
[00:27:23] That is an insane. How does this have 80,000 likes, bro? And I'm blocked by this guy.
[00:27:52] in any case, Dolan was tracking random trends. People you were track 100p. I mean, I, I don't
[00:27:58] think so. I don't think I'm fucking, I don't think I'm famous enough, dude. I'm not on
[00:28:02] Dolan's radar. Cause I'm not, I'm not on Dolan's radar cause I'm not, I'm, I'm washed. I'm
[00:28:12] not famous. Okay. Maybe after this revelation that me and Mitch McConnell are in a gay relationship,
[00:28:21] that's different but anyway where was I what was I doing oh yeah we blasted off let the people know
[00:28:36] let the people know we're live and alive you're very famous to me thank you
[00:28:42] any we are Charlie Kirk tonight yeah I mean if we carry the flame later
[00:28:47] the judge that put the TRO blocking reckless ban from releasing his video until now is the same one
[00:28:51] overseeing the Tyler Robinson case, no way. Dolan was beefing with a dog bro, you're on
[00:28:59] the list now. Was it a famous dog? Yeah, by the way, Grant Plattner privately told staff
[00:29:07] he'll formally exit Santa Reyes Monday, but also he hasn't exited the race yet. Like he
[00:29:11] hasn't officially released his paperwork. So, what is this? Wait, breaking news judges.
[00:29:29] Wow, judges oversee multiple cases breaking news. Shut the fuck up. It's, it's our little
[00:29:39] cinematic universe, okay? It's strange to us because it's our little baby cinematic universe.
[00:29:45] The fuck? What's wrong with you? Chill. Chill. Chill.
[00:30:00] Um, yeah, of course, we're going to have to talk about Abdul because, uh, our grand planner because,
[00:30:05] is near a tandem. And all of the other third-way neoliberals are in the least subtle ways possible,
[00:30:13] trying to connect Graham Plattner to Abdul El Sayed, because they're disgusting little
[00:30:17] monsters. So breaking news, people hired to do a job, actually doing their job. Okay.
[00:30:26] How about this for breaking news? Clavicular is in Israel. What the hell is that motherfucker
[00:30:33] doing in Israel. Also, he's the, Israel's the craziest country because like they don't give
[00:30:39] all fuck about anti-Semitism at all.
[00:30:42] Clavicular was slinging Heil Hitler's with Nick Fuentes like two months ago and now he's
[00:30:48] in Israel and everyone's like, it's awesome.
[00:30:51] Obviously, owning a nightclub in Miami is, and then also having like a contract dispute
[00:30:59] is already like automatic Israeli behavior. I feel like that's, you know, it's either
[00:31:04] that or like a falafel joint, right? So it makes sense. Like he was already spiritually
[00:31:10] going through the Israeli transformation, um, before he ever went to Israel. So that
[00:31:16] this is like, you know, now that he has gone to Tel Aviv, unhand me, just kidding. Love
[00:31:21] you here you got shit yeah he had a he he owned a nightclub in all Maugers
[00:31:31] support yahoo you wouldn't know though yeah I saw this fucking necklace thing
[00:31:38] look look at this looks Max or clavicular was gifted an open AI star of
[00:31:42] David neck is a commemorative first trip to Israel what the fuck is happening man
[00:31:46] it is beautiful necklace and I don't really wear necklaces so I think it would be beautiful
[00:31:51] for you to have it so it's an open AI logo you know open AI logo and you've got a star
[00:31:57] David inside of that oh I think it's a pretty cool necklace look at this look at this it's
[00:32:02] a chat GPT yeah basically chat GPT Muggin David um yeah let's do it anyone know how to put
[00:32:12] I don't even know what to say about this okay I'm sorry what the fuck is
[00:32:38] happening bro it's so funny cuz like like isn't this got homies with Nick
[00:32:46] Fuentes what are these guys doing
[00:32:57] yo is clavicular gay for real I think so
[00:33:02] This is conspiracy theory shit some some of think a I going to bring about the apocos because the snake in the garden of Ian or some shit
[00:33:17] Clab looks like yeah twig for arms. Yeah, bro. He's he's de transitioning
[00:33:22] He he went mail-to-mail and now he's going mail-to-mail the mail. He's de transitioning right now
[00:33:29] down. Like he got off the juice. He's no longer doing gender. He's not, he's no longer
[00:33:37] doing HRT. I just don't know what's happening here. I don't know what the machinations are
[00:33:44] behind the scenes here, like what this is about. Cause I don't think clavicular is just
[00:33:48] like a random, a random like clickhound, you know what I mean? Trying to, trying to consistently
[00:33:56] push the envelope and like go viral or whatever. I do feel like he's Peter Thiel's blood boy
[00:34:01] to a certain degree. I don't know. So it's just, for that reason, I'm like, what is Peter
[00:34:07] Thiel cooking up right now? What's he doing? What's he cooking up?
[00:34:12] Hassan, is this in Israel? I can't tell you. Yes, clavicular is in Israel. Okay. It's true.
[00:34:20] He is in Israel number one.
[00:34:33] So yeah, I don't know.
[00:34:34] I don't know what the hell's going on.
[00:34:35] I think I deserve this.
[00:34:36] You want me to Calinskify completely?
[00:34:49] you want me to Kalinska find myself? Why do you give a shit about this guy? I don't know
[00:35:02] because the youth watch him because he's like base boosted himself into relevance through
[00:35:07] a tiktok clip click farms and clippers. So now anyone under the age of like 20 is like
[00:35:16] Oh, he's so based. I love mugging, you know?
[00:35:25] I feel like if I did that, I get clowned on so hard, bro. I started wearing suits and there's
[00:35:30] motherfuckers making conspiracies. Imagine if I went blonde, they would be like,
[00:35:34] the DNC made him go blonde so he can appeal to the Hitler youth or something. Like, I just,
[00:35:40] I don't even want to, I don't even know what the conspiracies would look like. Okay.
[00:35:48] I don't even know what the conspiracies would say.
[00:35:53] That edit makes you look like a live-action anime character, lol. Okay.
[00:35:59] Did we cover Patrick by David Segment where he's talking about kid maxing? Kid maxing.
[00:36:10] That website that sells that necklace is fucking crazy. This will be permer so you can rep your favorite is really terrorist attack. Yeah, that's not surprising.
[00:36:24] Um, anyway.
[00:36:27] Uh, clav is the perfect encapsulation of irrational right wing rational thinking. I think it's good you cover him. Yeah.
[00:36:34] If you choose to dye your hair, please make it only one eyebrow and nothing else. Okay,
[00:36:43] you got it. That seems good. That's what I'll do. Okay. All right. Well, we're going to obviously
[00:36:51] get started on Democrats scrambling after Graham Platner drops out for the out of the Senate race
[00:36:57] over the sexual assault allegations. Let's get started there. It's everyone's favorite
[00:37:07] conversation to have. Hopefully, we will eventually move on. Hopefully, there is going to come
[00:37:16] a day where we never have to talk about this ever again, okay? That day is coming. It's
[00:37:22] is not here yet. Once there's a replacement pick, that will be fantastic. That will be
[00:37:29] phenomenal. Once there is an actual replacement, we will no longer have to worry about this.
[00:37:37] We will no longer have to talk about this, inshallah, one day. One day, my friends. But
[00:37:43] that day is not today. We could be there because no one in here gives a single fuck about it.
[00:37:49] Yeah, except it's one of the biggest fucking stories right now, because once again, the Senate majority
[00:37:58] hangs in the delicate balance of the decision-making of the main Democrats.
[00:38:07] So,
[00:38:12] it's not the US attacking Iran now. The US military is not behind the curtain.
[00:38:15] The US military is not behind the current attacks in Iran says al-Arabia English explosion been reported
[00:38:22] Oh, I wonder who it could be. Oh my god is is Iran gonna attack Israel while clavicular is in Israel
[00:38:28] That's that would be fucking nuts. Oh my god clavicular is in Israel. Oh
[00:38:32] My god while clavicular is in Israel Iran is gonna fucking retaliate against Israel
[00:38:38] Dubai moment, that is a very Dubai moment. Anyway, bro, you seem refreshed as fuck today.
[00:38:51] That's because I actually did something physical in the morning before I, before I went live.
[00:38:57] Unlike yesterday, the only physical thing I did was have gay sex with Mitch McConnell.
[00:39:02] Um, and it sucked the life force out of me. Mitch suck the life force out of me, dude
[00:39:07] What does this consider? I mean this one makes more sense than the long hair that's blonde
[00:39:21] First can it to be a true data center zealot
[00:39:24] We'll get 90% of the election. I know we talk about stuff like this all the time, but I don't think
[00:39:29] I don't think Americans, I don't think either party is doing that because the data centers
[00:39:36] are obviously very firmly on the side of entrenched power.
[00:39:44] It's still corporate interests above all else.
[00:39:47] And therefore you're not really seeing a lot of retaliation or any sort of pushback from
[00:39:54] Democrats at all.
[00:39:55] the U. S. Senate. He's
[00:39:57] been charged with a
[00:39:59] crime. Political meltdown in
[00:40:01] Maine that could impact
[00:40:03] control of the U. S. Senate.
[00:40:04] Overnight, Democrat Grant
[00:40:06] Platner said he is dropping
[00:40:07] out of his state Senate race.
[00:40:09] It follows allegations of
[00:40:10] rape and physical abuse, which
[00:40:12] he denies. Democrats are
[00:40:14] scrambling to find a new
[00:40:15] nominee. Caitlin. He burns is
[00:40:16] in Maine. Caitlin Good
[00:40:19] morning. Good morning to you,
[00:40:21] Vlad. Well, even in announcing
[00:40:22] that he was leaving the race,
[00:40:24] I'm trying to force him out.
[00:40:26] But now the hard work begins as Democrats here
[00:40:29] try to pick up the pieces under a very tight deadline.
[00:40:33] After a week of mounting allegations,
[00:40:36] vanishing support, and a showdown
[00:40:38] with state Democratic Party officials.
[00:40:41] We are suspending campaign operations.
[00:40:44] Graham Plattner says he intends to drop out
[00:40:46] of main Senate race.
[00:40:48] The announcement comes after two women who
[00:40:50] claim they dated Plattner in the past
[00:40:52] accused him of sexual and physical abuse.
[00:40:55] I know that some will think it's an admission of guilt,
[00:40:58] and it most certainly is not.
[00:40:59] Jenny Rasekot and Lindy Fiffiel
[00:41:01] detailed their allegations in interviews this week.
[00:41:05] It was domestic abuse.
[00:41:06] He violated multiple layers of consent that night.
[00:41:09] Platner has continuously denied these allegations.
[00:41:13] Those in power who have the ability to do so
[00:41:16] are using these allegations as an excuse
[00:41:21] to take away all of the things that we need to run a campaign.
[00:41:25] Main Democrats have until July 27th to pick a new candidate to take on long time incumbent
[00:41:31] Republican Susan Collins. There's already a crowded field of contenders, including Dr.
[00:41:37] Nirav Shah, Maine's former health director. The pathway to flipping the Senate. This is
[00:41:42] the establishment pig. So this is the establishment pig. And in an effort to make himself seem
[00:41:50] a little bit more palatable to the to the Platinum heads in Maine. He immediately was like, yeah,
[00:41:55] I'm, I'm, I'm willing to deny aid to Israel like immediately. Now, of course, I don't trust it at all
[00:42:04] and I don't trust it at all, but you know,
[00:42:11] He's trying. He's definitely trying. He really wants it.
[00:42:19] How anxious are Democrats feeling right now? We are feeling a thousand emotions all at once.
[00:42:26] And the one that I would say is overriding. I do not believe that this man would actually
[00:42:30] be in favor of Medicare for all. I'm gonna be honest. Like he is, dude, look, corporate Democrats
[00:42:36] and establishment Democrats are gonna get a lot smarter eventually because it's becoming undeniable
[00:42:42] that there is tremendous appetite for change, right? And for that reason, you're gonna start seeing,
[00:42:50] which we saw already with Wesley Bell. Wesley Bell's ad, did you guys see Wesley Bell's ad?
[00:42:55] Wesley Bell is the A-PAC stooge that A-PAC single-handedly bought a seat for as they unseated
[00:43:03] Corey Bush. Now, Wesley Bills ran an ads talking about how he's gonna be the only person who
[00:43:09] could combat ice. Like he actually wants to defeat ice, all this stuff. He wants Medicare
[00:43:13] for all, all this stuff. Like they're lying about, they've just, they've unlocked a new
[00:43:19] meta.
[00:43:20] For the longest time, the neo liberals that helmed the ship, the neo liberals that helmed
[00:43:28] the ship used to not even dignify us with any sort of lying about this. They would just
[00:43:37] run on, we're the best option, we're better than the Republicans, we're the only electable
[00:43:42] option. Electability is the key here and better things are not possible. Shut the fuck up
[00:43:49] and vote for us.
[00:43:51] Now, they've actually unlocked something very important in their tool belt, which is called
[00:43:58] lying, okay?
[00:44:01] Now they're using the Obama method.
[00:44:04] When you come out and you say, oh, Medicare for all, I'm with it, Israel, I would love
[00:44:10] to punish it, accountability for ICE, I'm there.
[00:44:17] They're not gonna do it.
[00:44:19] not going to do it at all. And it's important for people to recognize that and sort that kind of
[00:44:25] stuff out quickly. So, yeah. Yeah, he's a, what is this search Shaw and read from there for
[00:44:40] for hard evidence on why Nirav isn't our guy.
[00:44:47] Why I won't rank Sean King polling in the governor's race has shown former
[00:44:52] Macy C director, NERF shot consistently in the lead.
[00:44:54] A pan-Atlantic research poll released on May 20th,
[00:44:56] reporters shot with a habit 29,
[00:44:59] following by Angus King, the third with 24% church accent with 12,
[00:45:03] Shana bellows with 10% and Hannah Pingree with 9%.
[00:45:06] Our pan-Atlantic doesn't have the best record in the polling, blah, blah, blah.
[00:45:10] From talking to Shaw supporters at doors,
[00:45:11] a lot of Democrats have warm and fuzzy feelings about Shaw
[00:45:13] from when he was given daily briefings
[00:45:15] during the COVID pandemic.
[00:45:16] He became the kind of,
[00:45:17] he became a kind of a rock star
[00:45:19] to certain liberal leading mainers
[00:45:20] for his calm, smooth demeanor and dad jokes.
[00:45:22] People like him because he's smart with both a law degree
[00:45:24] and a medical degree,
[00:45:25] even though he doesn't have any clinical experience,
[00:45:27] he just also seems like a very nice person,
[00:45:28] but I have some deep concerns.
[00:45:30] As far as his position is on economic policy,
[00:45:32] Shaw has described himself as a university of Chicago guy,
[00:45:36] a strong believer in free markets.
[00:45:39] Adherents of the Chicago school stanchly believe in free market capitalism and reject Keynesian
[00:45:45] Intervention in the economy to make it more fair for working people that is as right-wing as you can get that is neo liberalism through and through
[00:45:53] That's fucking freedmen do get out of here
[00:45:58] There are folks in the Democratic Party for whom that's not their preferred means of economic delivery, but that's how I view the world
[00:46:03] Shaw said it one form
[00:46:05] Oof, shock complaint that means taxes are too high and it's hesitant to make tax code
[00:46:14] fair in terms of shifting some of the burden of the wealthiest tax praise and assuring
[00:46:17] working class people don't pay a higher rate of tax than millionaires.
[00:46:21] Oh, oh, oh, recently the Pro Shots Super PAC 314 Action Fund released an ad funded by a
[00:46:28] PAC affiliated with Democrats for Education Reform, a New York based school privatization
[00:46:34] Oh, no, he's a school privatization guy. Oh, no. Get your guy, Ed Inger. This is his guy.
[00:46:43] Dude, he doesn't, I'm sorry. I don't think Ed Inger Mentum has done his due diligence on this stuff.
[00:46:51] Okay. I don't think he has. It's just not, there's no shot.
[00:46:55] Here's the reality. A lot of people are panicking. Myself included. That's why I was like, bring out
[00:47:07] the Toyota. Bring out the Toyota, we all said. I mean, he's a lifelong logger. He's super pro cop.
[00:47:19] He's, you know, he used to be homophobic, not exactly sure where he lands on LGBTQ-related
[00:47:25] issues nowadays.
[00:47:28] But like, I wanna actually have a conversation with Troy, we're working on it.
[00:47:33] But like, the reason why I said deploy the Troy, bust out the Troyota, is because he
[00:47:42] He is probably the closest to the Platinum platform, the populous platform, and he also
[00:47:50] has an actual DSA endorsement, and he also, like, there's got to be a reason for it, but
[00:47:57] outside of that, outside of that, he's just very boring.
[00:48:01] He doesn't have the the the grand Platner
[00:48:07] speech skills, unfortunately.
[00:48:13] In any case,
[00:48:19] the other problem with Jack, the other problem with the Troyota,
[00:48:25] Mr. Troyota is that a gubernatorial race just took place and he
[00:48:29] kind of got cooked. It's crazy. You're more critical of Troy's experience and personality
[00:48:36] than fucking Platinum.
[00:48:37] Dog, we're talking about a popularity contest. I'm already leaning into that. Hello. Just
[00:48:44] as I said, look, Chatters, I need you to understand something. Okay. I have to be able to conduct
[00:48:53] analysis without you guys fucking freaking out on me every time I say some shit that
[00:48:57] you don't fully subscribe to, okay? I will always say the positive qualities of a candidate,
[00:49:06] I will always match them up against their contest, against the rest of the field, and
[00:49:12] I will also then talk about their appeal to a broader base of support.
[00:49:21] You need to, you need to let me cook a little bit. This is just how it works. This is how
[00:49:26] I've always conducted my analysis too. It's not new. It's not different. You know?
[00:49:39] This ain't new.
[00:49:43] Are you telling a subscriber they shouldn't subscribe to you?
[00:49:47] What? No, I'm always telling people they should subscribe to me.
[00:49:56] In any case, in any case, in any case, in any case, let's continue is main man you
[00:50:11] don't need charisma like that just look at the people just want policy and be
[00:50:14] Collins we shall see like I said there's an interesting balance here of like how
[00:50:23] much of Graham Plattner's success is related to his charisma and his like
[00:50:27] oratory skills and how much of it is related to the platform. I think it's
[00:50:32] you know 30 70, 70 being the platform 30 being the charisma right. So so that's
[00:50:43] that's my assessment but we shall see we shall see. In any case that's the one
[00:50:49] I'm the most positive about, Troy is the most, Troy is the one that I'm the most positive
[00:50:54] on out of all of the potential candidates, but I'm open to others as well.
[00:50:58] In any case, there is one candidate that I'm not open to, and that's obviously Shaw, right?
[00:51:06] This is, this is even more information than my, that basically confirms my suspicions,
[00:51:16] he is a school privatizer guy. I thought Troy was also a lobster man. No, he's a logger man.
[00:51:23] He's a lifelong logger man. There's only two types of people in Maine. There's only two jobs in
[00:51:29] Maine. Okay, lobster guy or oyster guy, same shit or log. He's a lumber guy. He's the second type of
[00:51:41] guy in Maine that's readily available. Yeah. So just, you know, you either you either lobster
[00:51:53] with the lob or you your you log. There's only two genders in Maine. I'm a lumber guy.
[00:52:06] I know you really like the lumbar, I know you like the lumbar.
[00:52:14] There's trees all around the main state and we gotta cut it down.
[00:52:22] I'm a lumber guy, I like to cut the tree.
[00:52:29] What comedy says?
[00:52:30] Thank you for the 20 bones, alright.
[00:52:33] gonna chat GPT it later and we're gonna grok it we're gonna grok it we're gonna
[00:52:38] chat GPT it we're gonna see what kind of logs we can get what kind of saws we
[00:52:48] can be using and what kind of log we can get in Maine all right I'm a lumber
[00:52:57] guy. Okay. Yeah, he wants to expand this group, 314 wants to expand charter schools, which
[00:53:20] is terrible. Creating school voucher programs also terrible, mandating more standardized
[00:53:24] This is another one of the most annoying things that Democrats actually advanced.
[00:53:28] It's a way to destroy what remains of the teachers' unions, a way to gut what remains
[00:53:35] of public school education. Josh Shapiro is a big school privatizer. I hate it.
[00:53:42] Not a fan of these guys at all. So that's another, you know, that's another situation with Shaw.
[00:53:49] is folks expanding on charter schools, creating school voucher programs,
[00:53:53] made any more standardized tests, punished teachers and fighting teachers unions yet.
[00:53:57] Troy Jackson and Shana Bellows recently released a joy statement expressing
[00:54:00] disappointment that Dr. Shaw's being bankrolled by millionaires whose mission
[00:54:03] is diverting your tax dollars from Maine's neighborhood public schools to private ones,
[00:54:07] the Maine Education Association endorsed Jackson and Bellows the first and second choices,
[00:54:12] and Shaw as his third choice.
[00:54:14] Shia also worked as Illinois public health director and a right wing Republican governor
[00:54:30] Bruce Ratner's administration. A dozen veterans died in a lesionaire's outbreak at a veteran's
[00:54:34] home after drinking bacteria contaminated water. They weren't diagnosed or given antibiotics quickly
[00:54:37] enough. 11 families sued the state for negligence and senators Dick Durbin, Dick Durbin and
[00:54:44] and Tammy Duckworth called on Shaw to resign.
[00:54:46] The senator said the Shaw deliberately withheld
[00:54:47] information of the veteran's home was in violation
[00:54:49] of a health code.
[00:54:51] That's crazy.
[00:54:53] That's crazy.
[00:54:56] Okay.
[00:55:02] Where are you going?
[00:55:06] Where are you going?
[00:55:11] She's been farting up a storm up in here.
[00:55:14] Dick Derby more like Turby Derby, okay
[00:55:21] So, yeah
[00:55:22] During Bruce Rawner's a relics campaign challenge to be prescribed emotional ads featuring family members of veterans who died to
[00:55:29] preventable diseases
[00:55:32] Nirav Shah also said this
[00:55:37] Landlords have been demonized
[00:55:39] when I watched shots closing remarks where he said main landlords have been demonized
[00:55:48] I will stay shoulder to shoulder with you god damn dude unbelievable for too long landlords
[00:56:00] have been demonized, that's insanity.
[00:56:07] When was it?
[00:56:08] You have been seen as a source of our problems, not part of the solution.
[00:56:13] As a governor, I collect that that will change and I will stand shoulder to shoulder
[00:56:17] with you rather than in opposition.
[00:56:19] Please help me make sure that data is not our governor.
[00:56:22] Yeah, by the way.
[00:56:26] He fucking.
[00:56:27] You know, he, he still, he cooked. Bro, did you see this from Scott Jennings, little ass
[00:56:34] bitch? Yeah, I did. He, he's like time to sue. I said, Fox News is rape TV is the pro rape
[00:56:41] network. One of the rapist hosts is now the fuck secretary of war. Pete Hexit also has
[00:56:44] a nonstatue on his motherfucking chest. He is such a prolific rapist that his own mother
[00:56:48] sent him an email begging him to stop raping. And Scott Jennings was like time to sue, sue
[00:56:53] for what? Literally everything that I said, everything that I said in that statement is
[00:57:00] confirmed by previous reporting.
[00:57:05] I was looking at this and I was thinking like, what could it be? Like what could be a defamatory
[00:57:10] claim here? And it's like Fox News has been sued by former guests and former hosts. Like
[00:57:17] There's a lot of famous Fox News anchors who were fired. It was a huge controversy. Pete
[00:57:24] Hegzeff has been literally, credibly accused of rape and covered it up by paying the victim,
[00:57:33] if I recall correctly.
[00:57:37] So yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. But I said, how
[00:57:40] many times have you defended Trump against rape allegations? How many times have you
[00:57:44] says something races towards blacks on your streams. Don't worry the full clip will be
[00:57:49] out soon. Guy who says blacks. Guy who says guy who types out the word blacks is supposedly
[00:58:01] a defender of black people. Interesting. Yeah, this time it's going to work. Yeah, then he
[00:58:22] He turns around and says, I'm black, okay.
[00:58:26] So, yeah, there's some issues with Shaw, but let's get back into it.
[00:58:36] Is the eagerness and the commitment to defeating Susan Collins in the fall?
[00:58:41] Former state Senate President Troy Jackson and main beer company founder Dan Kleben also
[00:58:46] announced they're seeking their party's nomination.
[00:58:49] the Defiant Platinum says the decision should come from voters.
[00:58:54] Decisions should not be made in back rooms by people in places of political power.
[00:59:01] OK, so where does this all go from here?
[00:59:03] Well, the state Democratic Party here has now decided they'll hold a nominating
[00:59:07] convention by the end of the month, but they're still trying to figure out
[00:59:11] exactly what that would look like.
[00:59:14] So still a lot more work to do for Democrats here.
[00:59:17] Vlad. All right, Caitlin, thank you very much.
[00:59:19] that's bringing in CBS News political contributor
[00:59:21] and Democratic strategist, Joel Payne.
[00:59:22] Joel, good morning.
[00:59:24] Good morning.
[00:59:24] So Grant Plattner has categorically denied
[00:59:27] the allegations against him.
[00:59:28] He says he did nothing wrong.
[00:59:29] He seems though to be blaming the Democratic establishment
[00:59:31] for forcing him out.
[00:59:33] Joel, is that because party leaders concluded
[00:59:35] he was simply unelectable or because Democrats feel
[00:59:39] that there's some kind of moral obligation here
[00:59:41] for a candidate facing an allegation like this
[00:59:43] to withdraw regardless of whether or not it's been proven
[00:59:46] and ultimately shouldn't that judgment be?
[00:59:48] There were going to overtime to clip you in frame it endorsing it as endorsing Platner.
[00:59:54] I made a post adding context to one of the videos.
[00:59:58] Um, oh yeah, yeah, I know.
[01:00:00] I mean, it doesn't really matter.
[01:00:02] I don't know.
[01:00:03] It's, I can't tell if it's coming from like the near attendance of the world who are
[01:00:08] trying to associate grand Platner with like, and all these other people.
[01:00:13] Um, or if it's, uh, if it's the people who are like, we were right.
[01:00:17] We are the true anti-impealist. Hasan is not real. He's fake. He's phony
[01:00:22] He loved a grand planner. He was always like the biggest endorser and supporter of grand planner. He flew to Maine all the stuff
[01:00:29] Or the people who
[01:00:32] consistently say
[01:00:34] The people who consistently say things like any sort of any sort of sentiment
[01:00:42] You literally did endorse him JD pond 17 you ran defense for him
[01:00:47] This conversation is always going to materialize into this for some reason, Taya. Sit. Sit.
[01:01:00] Okay. Okay. Go. Okay. Okay. Stop looking at. This is so funny. Look at this. Let me see
[01:01:12] if I can show. Okay, go.
[01:01:19] I want to see if you can watch it.
[01:01:29] Okay. Open the door.
[01:01:32] Open the door. There it is.
[01:01:36] Yeah. She's brilliant.
[01:01:39] She's brilliant. That's it. She has a PhD. It's crazy.
[01:01:50] Chris Couser's YouTube chat has also been weird the past three days with Rando's have been
[01:01:53] pestering for a condom Hassan thinking I'm thinking as being Ashwaterf the hell.
[01:02:02] Wisconsin Democrat downplays a parent on a song bug show doesn't endorse everything he says.
[01:02:09] What are they doing? She added as if candidates and yeah, no, she's she should just do the the
[01:02:14] Abdul, the the Abdul method. Yeah, I don't expect her to endorse everything I say.
[01:02:21] And I don't endorse everything she says. How about that? But it doesn't matter, right?
[01:02:32] But in any case,
[01:02:34] We'll cover this in a second.
[01:02:40] This is Francesca Hong.
[01:02:41] So, as far as the, as far as the, the, the Platinum, as far as the Platinum Mania goes,
[01:02:48] you endorse ramen too per every Twitter post.
[01:02:50] I know anyone and everyone that I have on the broadcast, people will work tirelessly
[01:02:57] to, uh, qualifies like an automatic endorsement, any coverage that I extend to any candidate,
[01:03:04] any defense of any candidate in a meaningful capacity, which of course I, I readily admit,
[01:03:11] uh, I readily admit I did defend the principle that Graham Plattner with the information
[01:03:17] that we had at the time was far better than Janet Mills and Susan Collins, which is true.
[01:03:25] I'm gonna fucking... Dude, no I didn't. No I didn't.
[01:03:34] That's not true. The first credible acquisition of sexual assault and I immediately covered it
[01:03:42] and actively pulled the trigger and demanded that he drop out. You are assuming that he was a rapist
[01:03:51] from before, when there wasn't any credible evidence that he was, that's the difference.
[01:03:58] It's very, very frustrating. I'm not going to jump on your suspicions, okay? Even if they are
[01:04:09] unfounded, but then end up becoming true, that doesn't mean that that is a way that I will cover.
[01:04:16] Like, dude, here, I'll give you an example. Okay? If people turned around and started calling Abdul
[01:04:25] a rapist, for example, which probably could happen, these guys are fucking vicious.
[01:04:30] What do you, what do you think? I'm just going to be like, oh, I guess that's the case.
[01:04:34] Like, it's insane. That's insane.
[01:04:41] You should stop responding to these chattas that are obviously trying to bait you to clip
[01:04:44] you as supporting Plattener, I know. A part of our cover today is going to feature the
[01:04:52] exact method that they're trying to, the exact method that they're trying to do right now.
[01:04:58] They're trying to portray Abdul El Sayed aggressively.
[01:05:06] They're trying to portray Abdul El Sayed as like the same as Grand Planner. It's fucking insane,
[01:05:11] Okay, it's insane.
[01:05:24] One of the things that I said in the New York Times initial reporting was that if there
[01:05:31] was, regardless of Lindsay Feefield's background, for example, if there was, I see so many cut-off
[01:05:36] trying to show you as defending Platner, you did, dude.
[01:05:46] Like, look at this, look at this. If I was the outside campaign, I probably wouldn't want
[01:05:50] to be associated with Platner's advisors or previous push for Platner as a future for
[01:05:54] president, given that it sounds grotesque today. But then again, his campaign is all
[01:05:57] the same advice, so maybe he will be next. This is one of the most insane insinuations
[01:06:04] that I have ever seen, it's disgusting, okay?
[01:06:08] It's absolutely disgusting.
[01:06:10] And Neera Tandon is doing it right now, okay?
[01:06:13] Neera Tandon, who is literally a Clinton acolyte,
[01:06:18] is doing this, it's not even a reach at that point.
[01:06:21] It's just straight forwardly nastiness,
[01:06:26] trying to imply a heinous, trying to deploy a heinous smear.
[01:06:34] trying to deploy a fucking heinous smear against another left populist candidate
[01:06:46] because that's how terrified they are of someone who's critical of Israel and
[01:06:51] pro medicare for all an anti-corporate pack spending that is straight up what's
[01:06:57] going on anyone that fucking leans into this idiotic nonsense is playing the
[01:07:02] exact same role as near attendant without even recognizing it, okay?
[01:07:13] We have to be a little bit smarter about the way, the devious ways in which
[01:07:20] these people in positions of power deploy propaganda, okay? The reason why I say that is because,
[01:07:28] the reason why I say that is because like, they didn't get there just out of sheer luck,
[01:07:32] Okay. These are vicious people. They know how to rat fuck. They know how to to tug on people's
[01:07:39] hard strings. It's not like this is not if you underestimate your ideological opponents,
[01:07:47] the the centrist Democrats, the right-wing Democrats that have been at the center of
[01:07:51] power in the Democratic Party for decades now, you will always lose. We will always lose.
[01:07:58] You cannot underestimate what they're doing.
[01:08:02] Okay, they love manufacturing narratives.
[01:08:05] They immediately started talking about how Abdul al-Said is misogynistic for running against Greshin Whitmer and then running against two women.
[01:08:12] women. So I urge people who are at least on the left to not fall for this fucking nonsensical
[01:08:29] bullshit. Okay? These people did not actually get to their position of power. These people
[01:08:44] did not get to their position of power by just like being dumb. They are very shrewd. They're
[01:08:48] very cunning. They're very manipulative. Okay? They know exactly how to, they know exactly how
[01:08:55] to bake a narrative. It's their cynical political operatives. You have to be a little bit more
[01:09:06] careful. Okay? They didn't get there by being nice. They didn't get there by having moral
[01:09:10] convictions. They got there by being manipulative shrewd operators. Okay?
[01:09:25] Using credible rape allegations against the totally fucking random candidacy to tie it back to
[01:09:35] another campaign that is properly vetted and not remotely connected to the main campaign is disgusting.
[01:09:45] And that's precisely the reason why many people immediately were like, this is DSA, this is the left, this is the left.
[01:09:51] Okay. They're doing that on purpose.
[01:09:58] Look, Caitlyn Legacchi, this is absolute smoke.
[01:10:07] The Republicans were going to drop something after this June. Yeah, the July 13th date, so you couldn't replace them.
[01:10:12] But the fact of the matter is that these are the same consultants that are bringing you Abdul Al-Sayed in Michigan.
[01:10:16] They're the same people.
[01:10:17] They're not. They're not.
[01:10:19] What the fuck are we talking about? They're not.
[01:10:24] It's nasty business, man. This is fucking insane. What do you mean the same consultants?
[01:10:32] I think they hired the financials for one fucking ad, dude. One ad.
[01:10:36] Like a couple months ago, Abdul Al Sayed ran in 2018 on a pro Medicare for all ticket.
[01:10:44] This is fucking bullshit. It's an ad agency. It's like saying Michael Lasher is
[01:10:52] basically Graham Platner if that's the case. Why are they not bringing up Michael
[01:10:57] Lasher? Fight agency work with Michael Lasher too? Why are they not criticizing
[01:11:02] Michael Lasher? Was Michael Lasher a fight agency candidate? Is that what
[01:11:09] happen? It's fucking ridiculous. They're an ad agency. They make good ads. I will always
[01:11:17] stand by that. They have decent instincts on some of this stuff, but they're an ad agency,
[01:11:22] nonetheless. The idea that an ad agency is actually responsible for a real political
[01:11:30] movement in this country is fucking utterly ridiculous, okay? No disrespect to the good
[01:11:35] people that work there, I'm not criticizing them on that front. They make great ads, they
[01:11:40] have decent instincts at times, but it's fucking ridiculous to look at a growing movement in
[01:11:46] this country, a growing political movement in this country, largely backed by the Democratic
[01:11:51] Socialists of America, largely revolving around DSA with 120,000 plus dues paying members,
[01:12:03] And then attributing that to the fight agency is fucking crazy.
[01:12:07] Because a lot of these guys cannot comprehend actual political movements growing in this
[01:12:13] country.
[01:12:14] They're all, they're cynical.
[01:12:15] Their understanding of the world is just wheeling and dealing.
[01:12:24] Like there's only political movements that are designed in a lab, right?
[01:12:29] There's no real political movements that can come from real people that have just a genuine
[01:12:34] disagreement with the way that the Democratic Party has operated for years that want change,
[01:12:38] that demand, that change, that can't happen, okay?
[01:12:44] It's ridiculous.
[01:12:45] Who are bringing you other candidates that are not vetted because they think that if
[01:12:53] you are online and you are popular online, that you are going to win people.
[01:12:57] It is disgusting and gross. This person was bad from the beginning. I have said it for months. He has no business being in the Senate
[01:13:03] He has no business being on a campaign and the fact that the Democratic Party should with him after the first allegations and the men of the
[01:13:09] Democratic Party should with him is disgusting and the women are the only ones that set up something here under say that is not facing any
[01:13:16] Kind of allegation. Thank you. You said he's an unvetted untested. He's also a former at the rep. Yeah, that's thank you. Jesus Christ
[01:13:23] It's fucking ridiculous. Dave Weigel says outside is definitely more vetted than Plattner. He ran in 2018 and spent half the campaign answering
[01:13:30] residency qualification questions. There are new questions about his finances made dollars since 2018
[01:13:34] And he's been knocked for overstating his public health record, but he's not a free-range candidate with no experience like Plattner
[01:13:40] Even that is like far too critical for the record near attendant turns around the energy for Plattner is going to move to outside
[01:13:47] They are very different people
[01:13:48] Abdel said is a high achieving brainiac who doesn't drink and has two kids with his college sweetheart, but part of the fight oligarchy
[01:13:55] Goal is electing stars who can change the conversation with the force of their ideas gab and charisma
[01:14:01] The non-burning wing Dems realizes happening years of elevating other young electeds who can be the face of the party
[01:14:06] So it's not always a OC on your screen the irony of this happening in Michigan is that slot Kim with her economic war plan is one of the
[01:14:12] candidates for this
[01:14:14] the problem with the establishment Democrats is that
[01:14:16] that. Elisa Slotkin is their star, okay? That's who they thought would be an AOC replacement
[01:14:22] to like bring excitement back to the establishment wing of the party. It failed. Abigail Spanberger
[01:14:28] is another great example of this where they were like, this is our, these are our stars.
[01:14:31] You have the right wing forces within the Democratic Party, the right wing Democrats,
[01:14:36] saying Elisa Slotkin, Abigail Spanberger, and the New Jersey governor, these are our
[01:14:43] young stars, right? They also for a while thought it could be Marisa concentration camp Perez.
[01:14:50] It didn't work because she's just too busy like trying to club seals or something. I
[01:14:55] don't really understand what the fuck her deal is at all. But they built this, they
[01:15:00] built this star studded team, right? That was their goal. Their goal is these are the
[01:15:05] new people, right? Eric Adams was a star for a little bit. We saw exactly how that worked
[01:15:10] out, right? Unbelievably corrupt, unbelievably right-wing. Yeah, Marine Mine Camp Perez,
[01:15:16] Richie Torres is another one of these guys, right? So like, so they're very frustrated. They're
[01:15:24] frustrated that like the organic talent with a lot of the grassroots mobilization capabilities
[01:15:30] is coming from the left. That's another real issue that they have, right? It's the Bernie
[01:15:36] It's the left populace that are actually capable of driving tremendous turnout, especially
[01:15:42] youth turnout.
[01:15:46] So that's where we're at.
[01:15:50] There is this real battle brewing within the Democratic Party, and instead of the, the
[01:15:56] establishment Democrats stepping out of the way and allowing this change to take place,
[01:16:01] and maybe even leaning into it a little bit to be like, yeah, we are like that too.
[01:16:05] They are aggressively posturing against it.
[01:16:08] And the Center for American Progress, ironically named, with being helmed by near-attendant,
[01:16:15] is at the forefront of this.
[01:16:16] And so is third way.
[01:16:18] So are all of these different think tanks that are funded by these massive corporations
[01:16:25] that are actively trying to hold on to the center of power in the party.
[01:16:32] Okay?
[01:16:34] There is no comparison between Abdul El Sayed and Graham Plattener.
[01:16:37] The only comparison you can make is one that I have made since November 2025 when we first
[01:16:44] found out that Graham Plattener had a fucking Nazi tattoo on his chest.
[01:16:48] And that comparison was, see, look at all these people falling in love with Graham Plattener
[01:16:53] in spite of those red flags because he's running on a left populist campaign.
[01:16:57] There's another guy who actually is a real one with an unvarnished track record that
[01:17:03] is not tarnished at all, no red flags whatsoever,
[01:17:06] complete fucking stud through and through.
[01:17:09] And yet the Democrats, the established Democrats
[01:17:12] and the right wing Democrats are treating him
[01:17:14] like he's just as bad as fucking Graham Plattner was.
[01:17:20] Brother, we get it.
[01:17:21] Can you stop defending your record?
[01:17:22] No, this is not me defending my record.
[01:17:24] What are you talking about?
[01:17:25] This has nothing to do with me defending my record.
[01:17:28] The only comparison you can make
[01:17:29] is that establishment Democrats, right-wing Democrats, and right-wingers outside of the Democratic Party, are
[01:17:37] treating Abdullaus, Ed, and Graham Platner as the same because of the policies. That's it.
[01:17:45] That's it. One's a doctor, a Rhodes scholar, a person who worked in public health,
[01:17:52] okay? Neither of which are socialists, right? Abdullaus is not a socialist.
[01:17:57] He openly says that we have the conversation together when he first came on the broadcast.
[01:18:01] He was like, oh, I believe in, you know, ethical capitalism or whatever.
[01:18:04] I don't agree with him on it, but who cares?
[01:18:08] Right.
[01:18:13] And it's very frustrating.
[01:18:15] It's very frustrating that they're just like, one, they're saying, you know, this
[01:18:19] guy is a DSA, so is grand planner.
[01:18:22] Neither are DSA candidates.
[01:18:24] Okay.
[01:18:24] And not only that, not only that, but also, they are going to shit smear to the best of their ability.
[01:18:35] You say that people don't understand movement and then Chatter thinks you're defending your record showing that Chatter doesn't understand movement too.
[01:18:43] They're using it to attack Abdul.
[01:18:59] It's ridiculous.
[01:19:04] It's totally ridiculous.
[01:19:13] Carlson also had some choice words on AOC, or sorry, Neera Tandon had some choice words
[01:19:18] on AOC. Neera Tandon tried to literally package AOC with this. Why would you do that? Out
[01:19:25] of all of the left populist DSA affiliated or DSA politicians, AOC was the one who literally
[01:19:34] saw Platinum and was like, I'm staying the fuck away from that race. So why is Neera
[01:19:40] on MS now trying to tarnish AOC with this too.
[01:19:45] I guess I'd say, look, this whole situation is a horrifying tragedy on so many levels.
[01:19:50] And the people I feel the worst for are really the people, and Nikki is talking about, the
[01:19:56] people who were betrayed by Graham Blatner. I mean, he's angry at the world, but it's
[01:20:02] his own actions that have caused the situation that we're in. And I feel like the fact that
[01:20:08] I feel like the fact that he takes zero responsibility of that can really enrages me, but I do, I feel the people I feel the worst for in this situation are people who felt hope about this campaign.
[01:20:20] And I do think the process has to ensure that people who felt hope in this campaign, in his campaign and about change in Maine, have a voice in that process.
[01:20:32] What I found sort of really disturbing about this video is there's so much more ire to
[01:20:38] like Democrats nationally than two people he never mentioned, Susan Collins or Donald
[01:20:46] Trump.
[01:20:47] And I find it sort of tragic that after all the destruction and wreckage, you know, he's
[01:20:54] going out by basically trying to torch Democrats.
[01:20:59] just as a reminder like he did win the primary but it's his own actions that have caused this and
[01:21:04] you don't have to ask me you can ask senator sanders senator warren congressman conna congresswoman
[01:21:13] alexandra acasio-cortez these are his aoc why the fuck would you bring up aoc
[01:21:22] AOC, Warren Fine, Ro Khanna, Bernie Sanders, Fine, these are all endorsers to Graham Platner.
[01:21:29] They immediately removed their endorsements. They unendorsed them as soon as the credible
[01:21:34] rape allegation hit the timeline. Why would you bring up AOC in this conversation? AOC
[01:21:40] never endorsed them. As a matter of fact, they kept asking AOC why she wouldn't. She was
[01:21:45] like, oh, you haven't weighed into that race. AOC has no ties to Graham Platner at all.
[01:21:52] Perhaps this has everything to do for cynical operators like Neera Tandon.
[01:21:58] They do not care about rape.
[01:21:59] I can say that with full confidence.
[01:22:02] You wanna know why?
[01:22:03] Because Neera Tandon worked with Bill Clinton.
[01:22:05] Neera Tandon worked with both of the Clintons, okay?
[01:22:09] Neera Tandon is an establishment Democrat through and through, okay?
[01:22:20] people don't care about sexual assault. We do, they don't. They at least have some level,
[01:22:32] like they're definitely more decent than the Republicans, which isn't saying much.
[01:22:37] Which isn't saying much, okay? Because obviously the Republicans are completely demonic. This
[01:22:44] This is the lighter version of that demonic nonsense, right?
[01:22:50] But I can confidently say, if you work with Bill Clinton, you obviously don't care.
[01:22:54] If you work with the Clintons, you obviously don't care about these sorts of allegations,
[01:22:59] right?
[01:23:00] You don't care about credible rape or sexual assault or sexual harassment allegations at
[01:23:05] all.
[01:23:06] You care about maintaining your position of power within the party.
[01:23:10] And as a cynical operator, she will take a real rape allegation with real victims and
[01:23:18] will turn around and try to tie that back to other people who are not even in any way
[01:23:24] shape or form connected to this guy.
[01:23:27] Whether it be Abdul El Sayed, whether it be AOC.
[01:23:30] So what is the connective tissue between Graham Platner and Abdul El Sayed and AOC?
[01:23:36] Perhaps it's your resentment towards them.
[01:23:40] Perhaps you want to connect them because you don't like that there is a growing, populist
[01:23:46] movement within the party, that the base is demanding changes.
[01:23:50] So you're aggressively trying to tie as many figureheads as possible, as many figureheads
[01:23:58] as possible, as many people who are critical of Israel as possible, for example, near attendant,
[01:24:02] person that she has aligned with over and over again, Benjamin Netanyahu.
[01:24:24] So cynical.
[01:24:27] Adam Carlson calls it out and says, I like how she tries to rope an AOC at the end here
[01:24:32] as someone who supported Plattner slash was his ally in Congress. When she faced a lot of
[01:24:35] shit from the people on the left for repeatedly refusing to endorse him, even as other leaders
[01:24:40] on the left did. And she clearly showed excellent judgment and not cave into that pressure.
[01:24:43] I'm nearly trying to poison the welfare AOC potential 2028 presidential campaign by
[01:24:46] associating her with Plattner. And it's beyond obvious that you're trying to do the same with
[01:24:50] Abdul-Assad and Peggy Flanagan this cycle, but at least try to be a little bit more subtle about it
[01:24:54] next time. Literally, all the court retweets are calling her out. Yeah. Yeah, say what
[01:25:05] you will with the establishment of vets candidates. Totally. Yeah. Totally.
[01:25:20] Huh
[01:25:23] The Cuomo ones even crazier because the establishment
[01:25:27] Knew that Cuomo was a sex pest, right and they still pushed them against Zoram. I'm Donnie
[01:25:35] That's what's so wild about these guys. They don't have a leg to goddamn stand on dude
[01:25:39] They don't have a leg to stand on and yet they'll chirp non stop
[01:25:45] What is this? Did you see time mentioned you 11 times in the Abdul El Sayed article Democratic?
[01:25:49] Senate hopeful Abdul Al-Said is running against both parties. Is a good article or a bad one?
[01:25:56] Did I quote? Did I give him a quote in this? I don't remember.
[01:26:01] Look, it's very clear that they don't have too much. They don't have any op or really like
[01:26:19] any significant op on op dual. So all they have is to basically pair jack at him. And that's all
[01:26:28] they got. So they're just going to keep hitting that line over and over again. What is this?
[01:26:33] I took a lot of heat for campaigning with a guy named the St. Piker. He says the Democratic
[01:26:36] Establishment, the Republican Establishment, they can't agree on everything, but they can agree
[01:26:40] that once you'll not campaign with the St. Piker, the audience laughs because that's the most
[01:26:43] important issue happening in America right now. That's funny. That's a good line.
[01:26:47] bars. But yeah, the reason why I turned into a significant talking point in this race is partially
[01:27:02] because of that because they have nothing. So they have to invent shit, right? And that's,
[01:27:07] that's usually what you do. If you don't have any real elbow, you invent, you, you invent suspicion,
[01:27:12] you invite suspicion, you say, oh, well, I'm going to release your tax returns. Like,
[01:27:16] Uptals made some decent money, I assume, from his book and from his podcast, right?
[01:27:20] So they're trying to say like he's out of touch. This is never a point of concern
[01:27:27] against candidates who defend entrenched power. Okay? Never. I've never heard a single instance
[01:27:36] where any of these people, whether they be on the far right or whether they be on the center
[01:27:40] right of the Democratic Party. I've never heard them deploy this line of criticism against
[01:27:47] billionaires or millionaires. Only when someone says a better future is possible and I'm willing
[01:27:55] to fight for it, do people immediately deploy the, well, you're rich. Well, you're rich.
[01:28:01] You're a rich guy. How about you shut the fuck up rich guy? Why don't you shut your
[01:28:05] rich guy mouth. How dare you speak for the poor's from your ivory tower. It's so strange.
[01:28:13] It's so strange. It is Tom Steyer as well. And it worked with Tom Steyer. Tom Steyer
[01:28:17] is a billionaire, right? And it's interesting. It's interesting that this does not get deployed
[01:28:24] against Jared Polis. This doesn't get deployed against unbelievably wealthy Democrats that
[01:28:34] are in the right. They did this with Bernie Sanders. They tried to do it with Zoran. Zoran
[01:28:41] is broke as fuck. He's a broke boy. And they tried to do this. They tried to do this with
[01:28:46] Daria Lisa. It only goes in one direction. It's very interesting. It's very, very interesting.
[01:29:01] Yeah, Zoran's got no fucking bread.
[01:29:03] He's a broke boy.
[01:29:05] So why don't they do this with Daniel Lurie?
[01:29:08] Daniel Lurie, the mayor of San Francisco, is a billionaire.
[01:29:11] Why don't they do this with Daniel Lurie?
[01:29:19] Isn't that interesting?
[01:29:21] Perhaps it's because he's right wing.
[01:29:23] He's a right wing Democrat.
[01:29:25] Yeah, if you're rich and you advocate for the poor, you're hypocritic.
[01:29:35] You are poor and you advocate for the poor, you're jealous and you're broke and you demonstrate
[01:29:41] envy.
[01:29:42] They just don't want you advocating for the poor
[01:29:58] Yeah
[01:30:00] I am poor and I advocate for the rich so I'm a hero. Yeah. If you're poor and you advocate
[01:30:18] for the rich, you're just a regular American. Let me tell you, a lot of those guys around,
[01:30:23] a lot of broke boys who love advocating for the interests of the wealthy. Very strange.
[01:30:28] of them find themselves in my chat every day, day in, day out, tirelessly advocating for the wealthy.
[01:30:37] Temporarily embarrassed millionaires and billionaires, the entrepreneurs.
[01:30:46] One day I too will become unfathomably wealthy and then those poor like me better look out.
[01:30:54] That's the attitude. There's always the attitude. And it's weird because no wealthy person has ever
[01:31:04] become wealthy without advocating for their self-interest. So the irony here is you are
[01:31:09] currently advocating against your class interests if you're poor, if you're a worker and you're
[01:31:14] anti-labor. If you're a worker and you're anti-socialist, anti-communist, you unironically are advocating
[01:31:22] against your class interests, and let me tell you some about rich folk, okay? They didn't
[01:31:29] get there while advocating against their best interests, okay? They didn't get there by saying
[01:31:38] no to someone who wants to extend a helping hand. You're being silly. So even if you are
[01:31:47] simply just a, uh, a entrepreneur, or, uh, you're simply just in transit.
[01:31:55] You're transitioning to a billionaire.
[01:31:57] You're going to be a billionaire one day.
[01:31:59] Even if you aren't there yet, while you're not there, you should advocate
[01:32:04] for your best interests.
[01:32:06] You should advocate for your class interests.
[01:32:11] Okay.
[01:32:14] That's it.
[01:32:14] Anyway, near attendant responded to Adam Carlson said, did you did the audio not work AOC who I'm a fan of called on planner and the campaign just as Warren Sanders and Conrad did. I mentioned her because she's a leader on the left who called for on him to get out, not a moderate who told him to get out.
[01:32:29] I didn't say she endorsed him. I do agree. She looks like a genius for not endorsing him.
[01:32:44] Yeah, she's trying to basically change the dynamic of the statement.
[01:32:52] She absolutely packaged them together on purpose, just like she is also directly tying
[01:32:59] Obdolelsaia to the grand planner.
[01:33:01] Obdolelsaia has no connection to grand planners, fucking bullshit.
[01:33:04] Just to ensure that people who felt hope in this campaign, in his campaign and about change
[01:33:10] in Maine, have a voice in that process.
[01:33:13] I mean, what I found sort of really disturbing about this video is there's so much more
[01:33:20] ire to like Democrats nationally than anything lending any support the non leftist or outsiders
[01:33:27] are doing entryism and that's bad for knowing who they are or what they will do.
[01:33:32] I mean, with Abdul al-Sayed, it's definitely different than Graham Plattener.
[01:33:37] I I trust Abdul I trust Abdul on his his policies because and not because like I've I've gotten to know Abdul
[01:33:47] I'll say it but I just know his background right like he's been at this game for a while
[01:33:53] Like he has been a staunch advocate for Medicare for all you wrote a literal fucking book on it
[01:33:58] And he ran a gubernatorial race in 2018
[01:34:02] Unfortunately too early right like he was right, but too early. I think that's important
[01:34:07] Like that, that's the difference here. You know what I mean? There are always going to be, there are always going to be people who are not entirely aligned ideologically with us that are certainly valuable and reliable allies in the same cause.
[01:34:26] was. Two people he never
[01:34:34] mentioned, Susan Collins or
[01:34:36] Donald Trump. And I find it
[01:34:39] sort of tragic that after all
[01:34:42] the destruction and wreckage,
[01:34:44] you know, he's going out by
[01:34:46] basically trying to torch
[01:34:48] Democrats. And just as a
[01:34:50] reminder, like he did win the
[01:34:52] primary, but it's his own
[01:34:54] actions that have caused us.
[01:34:55] and you don't have to ask me.
[01:34:56] You can ask Senator Sanders, Senator Warren,
[01:35:01] Congressman Conna, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
[01:35:06] These are his allies in the fight
[01:35:08] who recognized what happened here was horrifying.
[01:35:11] Yeah, these are his allies in the fight.
[01:35:13] And then she tries to make it seem like,
[01:35:16] she tries to make it seem like she was just bringing up
[01:35:18] the fact that AOC called on him to pull out.
[01:35:23] You brought up allies in the fight and you brought up AOC's name into the conversation because you want to tarnish her
[01:35:32] Track record you want to connect AOC to Graham Platner
[01:35:37] AOC has no connection to Graham Platner
[01:35:43] Like you think Graham Platner did not ask AOC for an endorsement I'm sure I'm sure they did
[01:35:50] You know what I mean? I'm certain that I have no knowledge of this, but I'm certain that they went
[01:36:00] to every person that they could that is progressive, and it never came. So the idea, the idea that you
[01:36:10] can try to connect these two in this circumstance is simply to connect this movement to Grand Plattner.
[01:36:18] Did you know he's a known liar? Do you think he's actually a Nazi because of that too? I don't know,
[01:36:24] man. I don't want to even think about that. Okay. I don't want to think about fucking
[01:36:29] Grand Planner. They didn't go to you. No, they did not.
[01:36:48] Plattner this, Plattner that, guys, let's just agree, Graham Fattner sucks ass and throw him to the loft, Graham Fattner.
[01:37:01] What is this? Lesson learned, Troy Jackson removes all mentions of Gaza from his campaign platform.
[01:37:11] Wait, what?
[01:37:17] No. Wait, hold on.
[01:37:29] Ready planning to organize. I mean, everybody obviously is planning, but they're the ones
[01:37:34] that are the most organized planning to go to these county committee meetings when they're
[01:37:37] scheduled and get behind a particular candidate. I suspect our reporting indicates that will
[01:37:43] be Troy Jackson, and then try to send a majority of their own delegates to the State Committee
[01:37:52] and then nominate Troy Jackson.
[01:37:56] Troy Jackson put out a statement announcing that he is running for office on a platform
[01:38:01] of Medicare for All, on taking on corporate power, standing up for working people.
[01:38:08] Conspicuously absent from his statement was the guy's a genocide or an anti-war message.
[01:38:15] He opposes the genocide, he has called it out, he is an anti-war candidate.
[01:38:22] In the moment he's like, don't think we're going to include that necessarily in the statement
[01:38:29] that we're putting out here.
[01:38:30] It's like a lesson learned type of situation.
[01:38:38] The New York Times working on a hit piece against Troy Jackson, fortunately there are several
[01:38:41] witnesses who could devote the bottle story, but I wouldn't put it past the time to try
[01:38:44] to take him down as the only Bernie endorsed candidate in the race.
[01:38:58] First trailer of the Documentary American Doctor.
[01:39:00] Wait, isn't this?
[01:39:01] Oh, this is a Pharrose, right?
[01:39:04] I think I'm in this.
[01:39:05] It's like when the hospital is totally overwhelmed, you're getting waves of patience, you're
[01:39:10] being prioritized.
[01:39:11] Isn't this the one I'm in?
[01:39:14] This documentary?
[01:39:16] For Rose is one of the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:39:19] Do you have to treat them?
[01:39:20] Yeah, there he is.
[01:39:21] Yeah, there he is.
[01:39:22] To give the people whose legs have been blown off.
[01:39:25] Three surgeons all working on one little girl for what, two and a half hours?
[01:39:28] And she's probably going to lose her right leg, left leg, and her left arm.
[01:39:31] And she's starting to wake up.
[01:39:32] Let's get her warm.
[01:39:34] As a Jewish physician, I knew nothing about Gaza.
[01:39:37] Like most Americans, I thought everybody out here
[01:39:40] were nothing but terrorists, because that's what I was told.
[01:39:43] I'm not Israeli.
[01:39:44] I'm not Palestinian.
[01:39:45] I'm not Christian.
[01:39:45] I'm Muslim.
[01:39:46] I'm not Jewish.
[01:39:46] I don't really have any connection to it.
[01:39:48] But as an American, I just don't want my government involved
[01:39:51] in crimes.
[01:39:52] I'm a Palestinian.
[01:39:53] I'm not a spokesperson.
[01:39:54] I'm a human being.
[01:39:54] I'm a US doctor who wants to see babies like my babies not
[01:39:58] being killed anymore.
[01:40:00] What surprised me most was how the carnage was focused on journalists, health care workers, and children.
[01:40:09] This bomb...
[01:40:12] Where was that?
[01:40:12] That bomb hit the building.
[01:40:14] There was a 15-year-old kid ready for discharge that was incinerated.
[01:40:17] And if I had gone down and been changing that kid's dressing, there would have been three bodies and I would have been one of them.
[01:40:21] When they hit a hospital, it's a deep tragedy that people will feel in the community for the foreseeable future.
[01:40:27] We're just asking that hospitals not be targeted.
[01:40:29] Why that conversation is derailed
[01:40:31] and the United States is beyond me?
[01:40:33] We do not have to accept that as Americans.
[01:40:35] The United States could stop sending jet fuel, bombs,
[01:40:39] all sorts of weapons.
[01:40:40] This is a political problem.
[01:40:42] We need a political solution.
[01:40:45] We're a good friend.
[01:40:46] I was just talking about peace to man.
[01:40:48] It's on us to make sure that their stories are told.
[01:40:53] I couldn't go to Palestine.
[01:40:54] I got rejected.
[01:40:55] And then I come back to the United States
[01:40:57] and get detained by the Department of Homeland Security.
[01:40:59] This is what my tax dollars did.
[01:41:04] What your tax dollars did.
[01:41:06] What my neighbor's tax dollars did.
[01:41:10] They have the right to know the truth.
[01:41:15] Thorough's the right one to listen to.
[01:41:16] He is about fairness and he is about doing the right thing.
[01:41:19] You know we're not dating, right?
[01:41:20] You don't have to talk me up this much.
[01:41:21] Yeah, I was supposed to what was I doing? I think I literally went to Michigan instead. I was supposed to go to the Sundance. They invited me to the Sundance release, but I think I was in Michigan with Abdul at the time. This is going to be incredible.
[01:41:50] Um, it's, uh, yeah, the premiere, man, these are some unimpeachable heroes right here.
[01:42:02] Fucking really, or no, I was in Minnesota.
[01:42:05] I wasn't a Michigan.
[01:42:06] I was in Minnesota for the ice, uh, for the ice demonstrations.
[01:42:10] That's why I couldn't make it.
[01:42:11] Holy fuck.
[01:42:12] That was cold.
[01:42:13] Jesus Christ.
[01:42:14] Um, yeah.
[01:42:15] Yeah, first trailer for American doctor and documentary foster physicians who work to
[01:42:21] save the lives of children and guys who were hit by Israeli bombs and select theater starting
[01:42:26] from August 14th.
[01:42:27] I'll be honest, dude, it's like, dude, this is, you want to know something crazy?
[01:42:32] We went from interviewing people like Faroes to getting a guy like Faroes elected in the
[01:42:39] Congress.
[01:42:43] Think about that.
[01:42:45] Think about that.
[01:42:48] Adam Hamawe, another doctor who went to
[01:42:53] Gaza and was patching children up day in, day out.
[01:42:58] Now, he's going to be a congressional representative.
[01:43:05] Things can change.
[01:43:08] Do you understand?
[01:43:12] Things can change as long as we're organized, as long as we're disciplined, as long as we are steadfast in our advocacy, as long as we look at the environment shifting.
[01:43:30] We look at the masses coming to the realization of certain realities.
[01:43:38] And if we're there, we can take advantage of the fact that people are finally recognizing
[01:43:46] the truth and we can make material changes.
[01:43:49] Okay?
[01:43:50] This is what I mean when I say little pockets of hope that you can lean into.
[01:43:54] Like, think about it.
[01:43:56] Think about it this way.
[01:43:57] Faro Seedwa came here to my house and sat next to me for two hours, three hours.
[01:44:06] Okay?
[01:44:07] And that was two years ago. I love him. He's a wonderful guy. He's an incredibly brave person.
[01:44:14] Okay. We had a conversation. We talked about the horrifying things that Israel was doing in Gaza.
[01:44:24] Okay. Think about where we were collectively. Think about where American society was collectively
[01:44:33] back then. Okay, let's take a look. When did I interview him? Which there is apparently some
[01:44:41] pieces of that interview in the in the documentary, which is, I mean, I'm honored to
[01:44:46] to have even been mentioned in the documentary. Obviously, it's
[01:44:52] all right. Yeah, I was invited to Sundance to go view the premiere. But unfortunately, I
[01:44:58] I went to Minneapolis instead to the ICE demonstrations.
[01:45:04] This was June 6th, 2025, wasn't, wow.
[01:45:08] It's not even two years ago.
[01:45:10] It's one year ago.
[01:45:13] Exactly, almost exactly one year ago,
[01:45:16] when I had Pharrose Seagull on the broadcast
[01:45:20] with a one hour and 48 minute conversation, okay?
[01:45:28] That was one year ago.
[01:45:37] Since then, this community has played a role in getting numerous anti-Zionist Congress
[01:45:47] persons elected, including a guy just like Faroes, who ran for office in one in New Jersey,
[01:45:57] Think about that. Now understand this is precisely the reason why there are a lot of people in
[01:46:13] positions of power who are terrified. There are a lot of people who are doing everything
[01:46:19] they can to chip away at the integrity of this movement that are doing everything they
[01:46:26] They can't deter down people who are kind people who simply want to make the changes
[01:46:33] that we all want to see.
[01:46:35] Okay.
[01:46:49] That's it.
[01:47:07] In any case, the reason why I'm bringing that up is because one year ago, this kind
[01:47:16] the changes, the kinds of changes that we've played a role in, were unforeseeable, right?
[01:47:22] It was impossible to envision. I certainly didn't think that there would ever be a moment
[01:47:28] where we could get someone like Faroz Sidwa, Adam Hamaouia, doctor who went to Gaza, elected
[01:47:34] into Congress. That was one year ago. This is why I always say revolutions are not spontaneous.
[01:47:43] They don't happen out of nowhere.
[01:47:45] They don't happen because people come to terms with the reality or recognize their class
[01:47:51] position and immediately engage in disciplined organizing.
[01:47:55] It doesn't work that way.
[01:47:56] You have to be there.
[01:47:59] You have to have the organizational backbone to support people once they come to that conclusion.
[01:48:09] People only think about the successes.
[01:48:12] They'll only think about the successes of New York City, DSA, right?
[01:48:16] They only think about Zoram-Amdani, AOC, right?
[01:48:20] Now the DSA slate.
[01:48:22] They don't think about the 10 plus years of work that it took to get to that point.
[01:48:30] They never think about the failures that happened along the way.
[01:48:35] They don't realize.
[01:48:36] They just take it for granted.
[01:48:40] You understand?
[01:48:46] Once that moment of success comes, people go, wow, I guess we can recreate it here as
[01:48:52] well.
[01:48:54] I guess it was so easy.
[01:48:57] Yeah, there's no AOC without Bernie and there's no Zoran without AOC and Bernie and there's
[01:49:09] no, there's no DSA slate without Zoran, AOC and Bernie, it builds on its own. It builds
[01:49:16] on top of victory after victory. Okay, this is also part of the reason why I'm endlessly
[01:49:23] gracious to certain people who I might have significant disagreements with on other issues,
[01:49:32] right? Some of the way they, the way that they carry themselves or some of their opinions
[01:49:38] I might not agree with, but ultimately, as long as they are not an impediment to progress,
[01:49:42] as long as they are not playing the role of a hurdle in building a broader movement,
[01:49:50] okay? Then it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous to say, no, I demand purity. Now, of course,
[01:50:01] This doesn't mean that there aren't red lines, right?
[01:50:08] There aren't red lines.
[01:50:09] Of course, there are, okay?
[01:50:11] This doesn't mean that we must make way for opportunities to come in.
[01:50:15] I mean, we just saw one version of that with Graham Platner.
[01:50:19] So obviously, there are important lessons to be learned there, okay?
[01:50:25] There are important lessons to be learned there with the Graham Platner failure, right?
[01:50:30] For sure.
[01:50:47] Having said that, it's a push and pull, it's a give and take.
[01:50:52] There's always going to be friction.
[01:50:54] There's always going to be some disagreements.
[01:50:57] We can't let certain disagreements get in the way of organizing.
[01:51:04] You're never going to, if you go out and you doorknock or if you go out and you organize
[01:51:07] for anything, tenant unions for example, and there's plenty of wonderful people in this
[01:51:13] community who have done that, and they'll tell you the number one thing that they'll
[01:51:16] tell you is like, they don't give a fuck about politics.
[01:51:20] They're singularly focused on making sure that people's needs are met.
[01:51:26] with labor unions. Not all the rank and filers are going to have the exact same political
[01:51:31] opinions. No one is monolithic, right? The goal here is not to create a monoculture
[01:51:41] or to have a monolithic approach. The goal here is to be singularly invested in making
[01:51:49] material changes in the positive direction for the working class. Okay? That's what we
[01:51:56] should be focusing on. That's what we should be working towards. It's that simple.
[01:52:03] Let's get back to this fucking asshole for the voters and not the establishment you genuinely
[01:52:20] think we will get to socialism by voting I've I've explained my theory of of electoral
[01:52:25] and using Electoralism, wielding it as a weapon on numerous occasions, chatter.
[01:52:32] Electoralism is not the end-all, be-all is just one of the many readily available
[01:52:37] and perhaps a very viable option for change, especially in the interim.
[01:52:43] It's not, you know, it's...
[01:52:50] Think about it like this, okay?
[01:52:54] Someone's invading your home, okay? Americans. They understand burger analogies and they understand home invasion
[01:53:02] Someone's invading your home in front of you
[01:53:06] You have a hammer
[01:53:08] Okay, and nothing else. Do you say oh, I wish I had a gun here
[01:53:12] I'm just gonna let the home invader kill me because I don't have a gun or do you grab the hammer and use it?
[01:53:21] You know
[01:53:24] You use the hammer, you use whatever you can.
[01:53:33] It's Kotskyism, not using this as a slur, even a critique as a Shazia Kotsky proposed.
[01:53:39] It's one option out of many. If you look at the current material conditions and if
[01:53:48] If you look at the masses and mass politics, which is what socialism is, socialism is mass
[01:53:56] politics.
[01:53:57] If you look at the way masses self-identify, and if you look at the biggest impediments
[01:54:04] to socialists organizing in this country, you have to recognize that the number one problem
[01:54:08] is class consciousness, or rather, a lack of class consciousness.
[01:54:13] and millionaires, the capital owning class are very class aware.
[01:54:19] The working class is not.
[01:54:22] We have to work to fix that.
[01:54:24] The way you do that is through agitative propaganda and political education.
[01:54:29] First, what Hassan, you're very unpatriotic.
[01:54:34] How can you look at the state of the country and not see how Trump has delivered W after
[01:54:37] W for the working class, Patriot 250?
[01:54:41] I agree, sir.
[01:54:42] I love paying more.
[01:54:43] I love paying more for the pump. I love paying more at the pump, brother. You're right. Um,
[01:54:48] anyway, as I was saying, one of the biggest impediments to the socialist organizing in
[01:54:53] this country is a lack of class consciousness in this country. Right. So we got to fix that.
[01:55:01] And then after class consciousness comes political education. It can, you, we can do both at
[01:55:06] the same time. One of the most viable routes of getting people educated is through organizations
[01:55:16] like the Democratic Socialists of America, okay? First, we make people aware. Then we
[01:55:25] educate them, and then we motivate them to take action. That's it. That's my theory
[01:55:36] of change. And for that, I think electoralism is a good outlet, a great outlet to bring
[01:55:45] people into the fold. Electoral successes for the Democratic Socialists of America have
[01:55:52] yielded a tremendous number of new paying, dues-paying members into the organization.
[01:55:59] And the Democratic Socialists of America have now reached 120,000 newspaying members.
[01:56:09] It is now the largest socialist organization in US history.
[01:56:16] Okay?
[01:56:21] And if you look at the increase, the spikes in membership, you realize Bernie, AOC, and
[01:56:27] Zoran and the DSA Slate in New York City played a major role, okay? It's not an accident.
[01:56:38] Elections are the great normalizer. It's a popularity contest where you can put your ideas to the test.
[01:56:47] Do you understand?
[01:56:49] It makes people reckon with the realities. It makes people reckon with a growing movement.
[01:57:00] What is this warning? Has Hompiger talked about establishing reeducation camps LeMau?
[01:57:04] First of all, in the United States of America, in order for someone to go through the process
[01:57:08] of reeducation, they would have had to have been educated to begin with. So, you know,
[01:57:13] no need for reeducation in this country. We just need education. Okay. So that's number
[01:57:17] If you have zero education already, then you don't need re-education.
[01:57:22] We already have concentration camps.
[01:57:24] It's just for black and brown people.
[01:57:26] We should eradicate them.
[01:57:27] We should destroy them.
[01:57:29] And we should open the fucking schools.
[01:57:31] Okay?
[01:57:32] So that's number one.
[01:57:33] Anyway, let's get back to the fucking grand platinum situation now.
[01:57:37] Come on.
[01:57:38] That's where Plattener went before announcing that he was suspending his campaign.
[01:57:41] He kind of offered up very strong critique of the establishment because his campaign
[01:57:46] itself was a commentary on the establishment and the power that he hoped to rebalance between
[01:57:52] working people and between those in power. And so the fact that he offered this commentary
[01:57:57] and this critique is not surprising, because this was essentially a proxy war about that.
[01:58:01] I think what we go from here is Democrats trying to pick up the pieces. And you hear
[01:58:06] a lot of commentary online about, well, how did we get here? Whose fault is this? Is it
[01:58:10] the fault of the people that identified Grant Platner? Is it the fault of the establishment
[01:58:14] class who did not offer up the type of candidates who would appropriately challenge a platner
[01:58:19] in the primary. And to me, I think there's medicine for everybody to take. And I think
[01:58:23] what Democrats across the country and Maine are doing right now is trying to learn the
[01:58:27] lessons of how we got here with Platner and where do we go next? And how do you refocus
[01:58:33] on trying to defeat Susan Collins in November?
[01:58:34] All right. So then how do you go about finding someone who could fulfill the obligations that
[01:58:39] he has made to the voters who are supporting him? In other words, finding someone who can
[01:58:43] be elected in that very same lane.
[01:58:46] Yeah, and look, Plattner, not it to this
[01:58:48] and others have as well, it is important
[01:58:50] that this decision is transparent and open and public.
[01:58:53] I think a lot of Democrats are learning the lessons
[01:58:55] from what happened with Joe Biden in 2024.
[01:58:57] Very different circumstance, obviously,
[01:58:59] but same impact voters chose somebody
[01:59:01] and then because of decisions out of their hands,
[01:59:04] that person was not on the ballot,
[01:59:06] ultimately when they chose them in a primary.
[01:59:08] I think what Democrats wanna do is make sure
[01:59:09] that main voters, particularly those who were reached
[01:59:12] partners working class economic populism message feel represented and they don't feel like the
[01:59:17] type of candidate with the type of focus and the type of agenda that they believe in that that is
[01:59:23] not represented on the ballot in November and you Caitlyn talked about there's going to be a
[01:59:27] nominated convention by the end of the month you've talked about some of those candidates whether
[01:59:31] Detroit Jackson the Rob Scholl Dan Cleveland there will be lots of folks I imagine who jump in
[01:59:37] and lots of opportunities for people to weigh in so Joe very quickly is this still winnable for
[01:59:41] for Democrats.
[01:59:42] I think it is still winnable for Democrats,
[01:59:44] but I would point out, even with more traditional candidates
[01:59:46] in the past, a Shanabelle's in 2014,
[01:59:49] and a Sarah Gideon in 2020, Susan Collins
[01:59:52] was able to defy political odds against her.
[01:59:54] So she is a tough Republican to defeat under any circumstance.
[01:59:58] I don't think Democrats have made it easier for themselves
[02:00:00] this time around.
[02:00:01] All right, Joe Payne, always appreciate talking with you,
[02:00:03] my friend.
[02:00:03] Thank you.
[02:00:04] This is just a word of warning to Democrats in Washington DC.
[02:00:09] Grant Plattner was losing support with independence.
[02:00:12] No doubt about it.
[02:00:13] But I will tell you, Meek and I have heard nothing.
[02:00:17] Let me underline that.
[02:00:19] Nothing but support from main Democrats
[02:00:24] on the ground for Plattner.
[02:00:27] Plattner signs are still up.
[02:00:30] They think that this is Chuck Schumacher.
[02:00:33] He's right.
[02:00:36] He's right.
[02:00:37] The lesson to be learned there is two-fold.
[02:00:41] One, the unbelievable power that a white veteran has in the eyes of the white electorate in Maine.
[02:00:50] But more importantly than that, the unbelievable staying power of a left populist campaign.
[02:00:58] Okay. And for the record, polls are showing this.
[02:01:07] Graham Platner outperforms Janet Mills in a matchup against Susan Collins after the rape allegation.
[02:01:16] That's number one.
[02:01:19] Polls were conducted after the rape allegation that showed that Graham Platner still had
[02:01:26] eight points on Janet Mills. There was also additional reporting that I saw about Susan
[02:01:34] Collins confiding in people that she trusts, which maybe she shouldn't have, about how
[02:01:41] she still feared going against Graham Plattner, even with the rape allegations, as opposed
[02:01:48] to Janet Mills.
[02:01:56] There is a real crisis here that I think some establishment Democrats are refusing to reckon
[02:02:05] with.
[02:02:06] And the crisis is going to be the Plattener dead enders, especially after Graham Plattener
[02:02:17] came out and was like, I'm innocent.
[02:02:19] It's the establishment forces that are attacking me.
[02:02:23] know, I'm gonna drop out, but also you gotta make sure, we gotta make sure that it's in
[02:02:29] the spirit of the campaign and whatnot. That is literally the electoral left populism viability
[02:02:42] truth nuke. Okay, the electability truth nuke. Yeah, Janet Mills being less popular
[02:03:01] an alleged rapist. Tells you all you need to know about how viscerally hated Chuck Schumer is.
[02:03:13] And Hakeem Jeffries and the Washington establishment coming to give him, they all have the same
[02:03:19] story. They started here in 10 days ago that people were coming up to Maine and they were
[02:03:25] desperate to try to get Plattener off the ballot because they thought Susan Collins had too much
[02:03:31] on him and would destroy him, I will tell you without revealing any names that we have
[02:03:38] been bombarded by phone calls and text messages from people who-
[02:03:43] All I have to say is that the third world's altars may include it apparently yapping about
[02:03:46] how baseboost is free will blow up and the progressive left's faces feel really vindicated
[02:03:50] on the internet today and sure as the boomer manors, Casinervosa shows where the American
[02:03:54] hearts lie but still, yeah but that was my point always and my point still remains.
[02:04:00] Okay
[02:04:02] There was never a moment that you can point to on this broadcast where I was like grand Platinum is the face of the fucking left
[02:04:08] He's the future of the left or anything like that
[02:04:11] You can only point to me arguing against chatters who kept making ridiculous comparisons like oh would you
[02:04:18] Fucking endorse Kamala airs. I said yes, I would endorse Kamala airs if she was running on that platform
[02:04:23] She was running on a pro Medicare for all ticket Israel committed a genocide and must
[02:04:27] get an arms embargo ticket, like, yeah, of course, I would have been doorknocking for
[02:04:31] Kamala Harris, okay?
[02:04:34] My point is, my own personal assessment of, you know, Graham Plattner with his red flags
[02:04:45] and everything else is entirely separate from grading him on a curve against the rest of
[02:04:52] Congress and against the rest of the people that were running in that specific race.
[02:04:57] Those are two separate realities, okay?
[02:05:10] And ultimately, there are clips of you saying, your team partner, I know, brother, I know,
[02:05:16] I know, I know.
[02:05:20] It's the same seven second clip that they keep running over and over again.
[02:05:26] There are also clips of me saying I'm a Janet Pillshead, Pills Mafia, that I'm a Janet
[02:05:30] Sarri.
[02:05:31] The RNC unironically have actually blasted those clips to say I endorsed Janet Mills,
[02:05:37] but I didn't.
[02:05:38] I didn't endorse either.
[02:05:40] I simply said the truth, that Graham Plattner's left populist platform is miles ahead and
[02:05:47] is very, is seen as very favorably by Maynards.
[02:05:53] Yeah, look, see?
[02:05:59] And this is what happens when you get your shit from clips.
[02:06:05] I've also endorsed Derby Derby then for governor of South Dakota.
[02:06:10] I don't stream in 46 second increments.
[02:06:14] I don't stream in seven second increments.
[02:06:16] I stream for 10 hours a day.
[02:06:24] It's time for you to admit you endorse both of them.
[02:06:26] Yes, I'm, I'm the chaos agent.
[02:06:28] It's true.
[02:06:29] I've endorsed all three.
[02:06:30] Terbi Derby in South Dakota for governor, Janet Mills and grand
[02:06:34] platter.
[02:06:42] Okay.
[02:06:42] Not 10 hours a day, seven hours a day.
[02:06:46] Therefore, this kind of stuff doesn't matter to me, okay?
[02:06:55] I've already made my most ethical voting decision in Maine.
[02:06:58] I understand that people can change, but he has not earned the benefit of the doubt.
[02:07:01] He hasn't properly renounced his service, he hasn't condemned Blackwater, he has not
[02:07:04] seen any kinesis shows that he's changed.
[02:07:05] You don't give people a chance like this as their first, second chance.
[02:07:08] You don't put them in positions of sweeping political power because there's a chance
[02:07:10] he's changed.
[02:07:11] I mean, that's why I feel like a lot of people don't have any argument to when I say, yeah, that's why I'm a Mills mafia
[02:07:18] This is precisely the reason why I am writing with Janet Mills who has a track record that is clear
[02:07:24] If those are the two options on the Democrat front, you know, if we're gonna if we're gonna be serious about it
[02:07:29] Then what do you do Janet Mills all the way?
[02:07:41] I know it's not incumbent on you to reign in the silliness and inside jokes, but I fear
[02:07:46] this is part of the gig at this point, you're being taken seriously as a political entity
[02:07:49] so some random normies who don't watch you regularly aren't going to get it when you
[02:07:52] meme around, I know.
[02:07:54] It's fine, who gives a shit?
[02:07:56] It is what it is.
[02:08:11] But do you see what I mean?
[02:08:15] Like if you if clips are if clips are how you arrive at like valid endorsements
[02:08:20] If that's how we figure out whether I'm like fully in the tank and and also
[02:08:28] And also told my my audience to go and like
[02:08:33] Donate to grand Platinum's campaign all this shit then you know, I did the same for Janet Mills
[02:08:41] The irony, of course, is that Grand Platinum's campaign had nothing to do with my commentary
[02:08:53] whatsoever because the 65-year-old white manors with a college education that voted for him
[02:09:00] didn't vote for him because they saw my commentary.
[02:09:05] I don't even think your sarcasm is hard to understand, most people are just willfully
[02:09:16] misconstruing your positions, yeah.
[02:09:19] Anyway, but it's important, we have to, we have to identify what it was that made manors
[02:09:25] love the dude, okay? In spite of the fucking red flags.
[02:09:46] Before we're brode about you regarding Platner and Troy, whatever.
[02:09:53] All right, let's continue.
[02:10:02] Graham Platner off the ballot, who are high up in main politics, and we've been getting that for the last two weeks.
[02:10:10] So, why do I say this? Because there's a conspiracy. No, not at all.
[02:10:15] Go back to what I said at the beginning. A warning to Washington Democrats.
[02:10:20] You do need to listen to Graham Platner because whether it's true or not,
[02:10:28] Justice Katty said about her son.
[02:10:31] Didn't you say you'd use Abdul as a control test to verify the increase in popularity of populism?
[02:10:35] I think you were right. I did say that. Yes. Over and over again.
[02:10:39] I would constantly contrast Graham Plattner and his red flags,
[02:10:43] but his left populist candidacy and his charismatic delivery
[02:10:48] with Abdul Al-Sayed, who also has charismatic delivery,
[02:10:51] who also has left populist tendencies and a similar platform
[02:10:56] with no red flags whatsoever, and a perfect track record, an incredible track record.
[02:11:05] From the perspective of the near-attainees of the world and the right-wing force within the
[02:11:08] Democratic Party, they see no difference to Grant Blatner and Abdul Al-Said. They're scared of
[02:11:13] both just the same. They're using the credible rape allegations against Grant Blatner to literally
[02:11:18] draw scrutiny to Abdul Al-Said that he does not deserve at all. Because the reality of the matter
[02:11:23] There is for many of these people, they just want to say he's Muslim, he's anti-Israel,
[02:11:26] we don't fucking like it, he's, he's for Medicare for all, we don't fucking like it.
[02:11:30] But they can't say that out loud.
[02:11:31] So they have to just like lean into whatever they can.
[02:11:34] They haven't, they haven't hit the, yeah, you even verbatim said, Abdul and Chris Rabb
[02:11:42] could not get away with even half of what Plattener had in terms of baggage, yes.
[02:11:47] who has been working on this campaign, rank and file Democrats who have been supporting
[02:11:55] Platinum from the very beginning think that this was cooked up in Washington, D.C. with
[02:12:03] a lot of money behind it to find anything that could be found to get Graham Platinum
[02:12:10] off the ballot. And I will say, we know nothing about that. We just, Nick and I have been scratching
[02:12:17] our heads for the last couple of weeks going, why are we getting all these calls about Grand
[02:12:25] Platinum needing to be off the ballot?
[02:12:27] A seven-year-old woman who is just like constant, constant calls.
[02:12:34] So anyway, that's what Democrats on the ground in Maine believe.
[02:12:40] So Washington needs to stay out of this, and main Democrats need to figure out who is going
[02:12:49] to replace Graham Platner on the ballot.
[02:12:52] And if Washington thinks they can micromanage this and fix this, they need to listen to
[02:12:56] what Cady Sun said, because they're going to piss off their base, and their base won't
[02:13:04] come out and vote in the general election.
[02:13:07] They just won't.
[02:13:08] Yeah, we should not underestimate the excitement that Plattner instilled in people, including
[02:13:14] voters who had told reporters in Maine they hadn't voted in a while, but they found a connection
[02:13:19] with him. You know, for all of his flaws, and there are obviously many, he was a charismatic,
[02:13:23] a talented political athlete. People were drawn to him and his messaging worked,
[02:13:27] and it's reflective, and we've seen this across the country right now. There's sort of a...
[02:13:32] like, I'm imagining Morning Joe and the commentary people on Morning Joe having the same like
[02:13:42] upstands and fucking hater culture. And then clipping these clips immediately,
[02:13:49] like the same people clipping these clips would be like, see, they're endorsing Ram
[02:13:52] Blander. Like this is literally just true, okay? This is just correct political analysis,
[02:14:00] which is kind of shocking coming from Morning Joe to begin with. But that's all they're doing,
[02:14:05] right? Nobody thinks he's endorsing Graham Platner.
[02:14:08] But not a civil war, but a real debate in the Democratic Party and about which direction to go.
[02:14:15] And there's real energy on the progressive side, the anti-establishment side. We saw in Colorado,
[02:14:21] we've seen it in New York, we've seen in other races saying we're tired of same old, same old.
[02:14:26] Some of it is about age and generation,
[02:14:29] but some of it is about charisma and energy
[02:14:31] and speaking to the issues that matter to voters,
[02:14:34] like charging up new voters, progressive voters.
[02:14:37] And there are some Democrats very nervous about that.
[02:14:40] And certainly, you're right.
[02:14:42] I received a lot of these same concerns.
[02:14:44] There was institutional opposition to Plattener
[02:14:48] within the Democratic Party.
[02:14:49] Now, some of that is because they feared
[02:14:51] other scandals were coming, and obviously,
[02:14:54] end up being correct, but there was more to it. And there really is a Washington feels
[02:14:59] very isolated from the Democratic party throughout the rest of the country right now. And I think
[02:15:05] as we look, as Maine looks to replace Plattener, they're going to have to be careful to your
[02:15:09] point because they risk losing some voters. That if they think that the next nominee is
[02:15:13] just sort of handpicked from D.C. or someone who doesn't resemble Plattener at all, there's
[02:15:18] a chance Plattener will lose some of that support when Susan Collins does appear vulnerable
[02:15:23] at a moment when Democrats at least look like they've got a real chance for I will
[02:15:28] away this November. Yeah, Washington was there. Washington was scared. And again,
[02:15:35] this has nothing to do with the allegations. It is pretty crazy because Joanne Reed had the
[02:15:42] identical take post her ouster from MSNBC, which she got kicked out for her takes on Gaza, by the
[02:15:51] way, allegedly. But it's wild that like, you know, both former MSNBC anchors and current
[02:15:59] MSNBC anchors are finally coming to the same conclusion.
[02:16:02] They're true or not. And again, that is something that, you know, over time, people can sort
[02:16:07] through everything and figure it out. I will tell you though, not only yours in politics,
[02:16:10] I have never won a candidate what a primary overwhelmingly. I've never once seen in a
[02:16:18] a Senate race or a congressional race,
[02:16:21] I'd never had people calling,
[02:16:23] I'd never had people like 10 days, two weeks out,
[02:16:26] basically saying, we're gonna try to get him out the ballot.
[02:16:30] We're like sending people up to Maine,
[02:16:35] and basically we're gonna go through all of Maine
[02:16:38] because we think there's more and we're gonna find more,
[02:16:41] and we have two weeks, we have 10 days,
[02:16:43] we have eight days to get him out the ballot.
[02:16:46] That's what they were saying before these allegations came out.
[02:16:51] Well, he's off the belly.
[02:16:53] So if we've been hearing this, it's outsiders.
[02:16:57] Imagine what Democrats on the ground in Maine have been hearing.
[02:17:01] So we'll see what happens.
[02:17:06] Yeah.
[02:17:07] So here is Joy Reed's take on it, too, which is very wild.
[02:17:11] I mean, Joe Reed has become a reliable left populist commentator.
[02:17:19] So has Don LeMond.
[02:17:21] Ironically enough, under independent platforms,
[02:17:26] I don't know if they have a lot less editorial control.
[02:17:31] That's obviously the case.
[02:17:33] I don't know if they just are more responsive to feedback
[02:17:37] as a consequence of their current position. But yeah, they have both, they've both leaned
[02:17:46] into this, this growth of left populism in the country. It's very interesting to see,
[02:17:52] especially because Ryan Reed, I will give her so much credit, okay, for having this
[02:17:57] change of heart because I do think it's genuine. I think Gaza was a huge part of this process.
[02:18:03] I think Gaza and America's involvement and lack of intervention in Gaza, I think radicalized
[02:18:10] Joanne Reid.
[02:18:11] I don't know what's in her heart.
[02:18:12] I don't know what's in her mind.
[02:18:13] I'm just responding to the changes that I saw, which literally led to her ouster from
[02:18:17] MSNBC.
[02:18:23] And it's interesting because like she was like anti, uh, uh, what do you call it?
[02:18:33] She was, she regularly hears from voters who regret voting answer in 2024 for Corey Bush.
[02:18:40] A lot of people have said to me, Corey, I just didn't know, I didn't understand what
[02:18:43] was happening at the time.
[02:18:44] And now I know, and they're upset on why the left thinks it'd be different for Missouri
[02:18:48] one this time around.
[02:18:51] So you need to replace him with somebody who is ideologically the same because that is what
[02:19:06] was decided.
[02:19:07] The people of Maine, the vote, the Democratic voters of Maine said we want a progressive.
[02:19:13] They did not say they want an APAP moderate.
[02:19:16] So the Democratic Party in Maine ought to pick someone who is ideologically the same
[02:19:22] or ideologically similar as Platner.
[02:19:26] If you don't and the DNC shoves an APAC candidate down your throat, you have my permission
[02:19:33] and I vote for them because the Democratic Party needs to learn that it is not vote
[02:19:37] Blue to Magic. Damn. Damn. What? What? Dude. Look, look, this isn't to say I'm not criticizing
[02:19:50] Joy Emery's like former, former work. I'm not saying that to be like she's insincere
[02:19:57] right now. Okay. I don't think she is. I think she is being sincere with this analysis.
[02:20:02] But to show you the change of attitude, Joanne Reed famously once brought like a body language
[02:20:07] expert on her MSNBC show to do body language analysis of Bernie Sanders to say that Bernie
[02:20:16] Sanders, to imply that Bernie Sanders was like misogynistic.
[02:20:19] But she was one of the leaders of the anti-Bernie movement in mainstream media.
[02:20:27] She was one of the loudest voices, and now she's there.
[02:20:32] And I think this is a real and genuine change of heart, okay?
[02:20:37] This is a real and genuine change of heart.
[02:20:39] I think it's partially because you're trapped in this DC media bubble, and you only hear
[02:20:44] feedback from similar people.
[02:20:50] And you developed this echo chambered mindset, and that probably played a role in this.
[02:20:56] But I'm telling you, this is not only refreshing, but it's also indicative.
[02:21:03] It's indicative of a real attitude shift taking place amongst Vote Blue, no matter who liberals,
[02:21:12] who are finally demanding more.
[02:21:14] I've been saying this, like, aside from all the organizing that the DSA has been doing,
[02:21:24] One of the things that I thought made this a real valuable opportunity to just like slam
[02:21:31] electoralism into the conversation more than ever before.
[02:21:35] The reason why I thought it was a good moment to be a lot more hands-on with these races
[02:21:41] as opposed to previous cycles that I've been a political commentator during and never really
[02:21:46] involved myself in this aggressively is because it's not because I saw the youth and I saw
[02:21:54] the interest of the youth movements, okay? It's because I saw the old. I would go out there
[02:22:04] and I would see old people that were also hungry for the change. I saw old people who previously
[02:22:15] had voted for Hillary Clinton, voted for Kamala Harris, voted for establishment Democrats who
[02:22:22] genuinely identified and internalized the vote blue no matter who Bernie was a spoiler mentality,
[02:22:32] turn around and actually say Bernie was right. I saw them at the stop oligarchy rallies, no
[02:22:40] oligarchy rallies. I saw them at the no kings protest. I saw them in Minneapolis. I saw them
[02:22:48] No matter where I went, if there was any sort of organized movement taking place, the Olds were there.
[02:22:56] The backbone of the liberal movement was there demanding this change.
[02:23:05] Okay.
[02:23:08] The boomers, the Olds, the college-educated white suburbanites, they have the same investment.
[02:23:16] They have the same interests. The wine moms are pissed.
[02:23:23] Okay. When you got the wine moms pissed off and demanding these sorts of changes,
[02:23:29] and it's a wrap, we'd be foolish not to seize on this opportunity. We'd be foolish not to take
[02:23:36] advantage of a lot of different demographics in American society that are also looking for this
[02:23:44] change. That's why these successes for, uh, DSA candidates all around the country, uh,
[02:23:52] they're not an accident. It's not spontaneous. Okay.
[02:23:57] It matters who they sometimes need to lose in order to learn. Sometimes when you lose,
[02:24:03] you learn. And I'm just telling you right now, if they put a little APAC, send Israel,
[02:24:09] the bombs, give Saudi Arabia all the money, let the UAE run over us and give Trump another plane.
[02:24:16] If they put another APAC sellout moderate in place of Graham Platner and they do not put somebody in
[02:24:24] who is his same ideology, you have my permission to stay your ass home. Then you're gonna they'll
[02:24:30] will learn when Susan Collins gets six more years. At this point, we have to teach Democrats,
[02:24:36] So you need to instruct them and teach them how to treat
[02:24:39] like being in a relationship.
[02:24:40] You got to teach people how to teach them.
[02:24:41] You know, the good thing about it is six more years
[02:24:43] if she gets in, she might go the way of.
[02:24:46] Mitch McConnell to be to be glitching and freezing.
[02:24:50] Glitching and freezing.
[02:24:51] They don't never want to retire.
[02:24:52] Why that old lady still?
[02:24:54] She didn't retire to.
[02:24:55] But you know what?
[02:24:55] Leave her in there.
[02:24:56] If you if she ordered in this, McConnell, probably.
[02:24:59] I mean, at this point, they're all they're all 100 years old.
[02:25:02] But the reality is we're going to focus on the races
[02:25:04] where the people get to choose
[02:25:06] the ideology of what they want.
[02:25:08] People didn't pick Grand Platter because of his stupid tattoos.
[02:25:11] They picked him because of his ideology.
[02:25:14] Yep. Cook.
[02:25:19] Oh, my God.
[02:25:22] Oh, my God.
[02:25:26] I mean, incredible.
[02:25:29] What do you even say?
[02:25:36] Incredible. Isn't the worry that it isn't a question of learning, but the leadership recognizes the reality and operates as it does anyway? Yes.
[02:25:49] That's the real truth, by the way. That's the real truth. The real truth, Nuke, is that the leadership is aware of this and that they're not going to learn any lessons.
[02:26:01] But this stuff is still important for the voters to understand, to draw a wedge between
[02:26:10] the voters and the establishment Democrats over and over again, right?
[02:26:15] Hassan, why wasn't the tattoo known for you to stop supporting Plattener?
[02:26:20] I'm Pills Mafia till the bitter end.
[02:26:22] Do you want to, do you want to, do we got to rerun the clip?
[02:26:26] Pills Mafia, baby.
[02:26:28] Pills Mafia till the bitter end.
[02:26:29] Janet Mills.
[02:26:41] You Bro you gotta get serious dudes mo fuckers no no no no no I am serious.
[02:26:45] Turbidurban, Pills Mafia, all the way.
[02:26:58] Whitewing Bookie Man Hassan Piker has a diabolical idea to get Mitch McConnell health update.
[02:27:03] Rumors have been swirling about the senator after he's hospitalized last month.
[02:27:06] Sampiker came up with a widely way to get answered by Senator Mitch McConnell and his
[02:27:09] health status.
[02:27:10] Rumors of the 84-year-old may be in critical condition.
[02:27:12] Oh my God, this is a news story.
[02:27:18] The progressive political streamer has been all-consuming obsession of conservative media
[02:27:21] as of late, tried to bait the senator into coming out of hiding by claiming they were
[02:27:24] having a torrid affair during Wednesday edition of his daily torshtream.
[02:27:28] on the news of the day, like her joke that he knows Mitch McConnell's alive and well,
[02:27:31] because he was sexting him last night and can't wait to go to DC and see him. Go ahead, Mitch,
[02:27:35] deny their relationship if he can. He got it. Oh really? You got a problem? Deny it. He can't.
[02:27:40] He's shy. McConnell hasn't been seen publicly since June 14th when 911 was called to respond
[02:27:47] to an unconscious person who was believed to have had a heart attack at the senators, watched a DC
[02:27:52] home address of Poe. Oh hell no. This is turning into real journalism hours. No.
[02:28:09] The center's office has released few details about his current health status. McConnell
[02:28:12] was planning to end his four-day gay center career. When his term concludes the J away,
[02:28:16] he has had a number of health issues in recent years. He was hospitalized in March,
[02:28:19] 2023 after suffering a con concussion from a serious fall.
[02:28:23] Piker's questions about McConnell weren't limited to his spicy live stream claims.
[02:28:26] On Tuesday, expo, he called BS on CNN contributor Scott Jennings claiming he's spoken on the center
[02:28:30] on the phone as he continues to recover hospital care. Jennings account mirrored stories from a
[02:28:34] short list of prominent Rehoga's while described having 20 minute conversations with McConnell.
[02:28:38] Piker, one of conservatives biggest left-wing boogeyman is far from the only one who's demanding
[02:28:41] answers about McConnell's health status. That's awesome.
[02:28:49] Yeah, Wednesday edition of my broadcast right wing boogeyman has some pica's diabolical idea to get Mitch McConnell's health update
[02:29:06] Yeah, oh
[02:29:10] That's so funny you need answers didn't house an avi actually a phone sex with them. Yeah, I did. Yeah, it's real
[02:29:19] It turns out when I make these sorts of jokes while I'm wearing a suit, it turns into real
[02:29:28] news commentary.
[02:29:29] New York Times opinion piece.
[02:29:34] Yeah, I'm obviously worried about the health care on my man, on my man, Mitchy Mitch.
[02:29:46] Hey, this is John Hudson with the post. Is it true that you made Mitch McConnell's toes
[02:29:54] curl last time you saw him? Why is, why is Washington post NatSect reporter John Hudson
[02:30:03] covering this instead of covering like diplomatic cables during America's now ongoing efforts
[02:30:11] to bring back the war to Iran. John Hudson's like, this is my top story for the Washington
[02:30:16] Post. I'm sorry. Yeah, I was, um, in between, in between, uh, intercepting diplomatic cables.
[02:30:27] I, I realized that the real story, the real lead I got is this thing. Well, girl, his
[02:30:36] wife is in China you're the next best contact yeah that's true anyway I'm
[02:30:48] skipping the foxes we are suspending campaign operations this is incredibly
[02:30:57] difficult because I know that some will think it's an admission of guilt and it
[02:31:02] most certainly is not we're not doing it because of the allegations we're doing
[02:31:06] because of the structures that are being taken away from us by those in power.
[02:31:10] This is so bait. I intend to file.
[02:31:13] Okay, okay, we're skipping these stuff.
[02:31:15] For now, Troy Jackson is former Democratic President of Maine State Senate,
[02:31:19] who has now filed campaign paperwork just today to possibly replace Plattner if he drops out.
[02:31:24] You have a lot of experience in politics in Maine and you ran for governor.
[02:31:26] You came in third in the Democratic primary there.
[02:31:29] And you told a local reporter in Maine and I quote you here.
[02:31:33] If Graham stepping away, I'm very, very interested and think I'm the best person to replace him.
[02:31:39] But as I mentioned, Troy, there's no known process to get anyone on the ballot whose name isn't Graham Platner at this point, right?
[02:31:45] It's an unknown. I mean, would you even have enough time to do this to get it together to pull off a win if you got in in the next few days?
[02:31:54] Well, I think it's definitely a challenge, you know, shorter timeline, but I think that again
[02:32:01] you know, there's a movement here in Maine and process country of people that are fed up with healthcare now being offered to everyday people you know
[02:32:09] prescription drugs, workers rights, I mean and we're seeing that here in Maine and
[02:32:15] and I think that is going to carry whoever
[02:32:18] is the nominee to victory over Collins because she doesn't offer any of that and so that's what I think
[02:32:24] I mean, short timeline, obviously money and all that is going to be a challenge, but I
[02:32:29] definitely think it's doable because the message, the movement is right and that's what's important.
[02:32:34] One state official who's already expressing her interest in replacing Plattner, Secretary
[02:32:38] of State, Sena Bellows. Secretary Bellows was a candidate for the Democratic nomination of the
[02:32:43] main governor's race, but lost last month's primary to a former main House Speaker and a
[02:32:48] to those who are suggesting that this process for replacing Plattener, assuming Plattener steps aside, would be undemocratic.
[02:32:58] Some have compared it to Vice President Harris for replacing President Biden in 2024 as being undemocratic.
[02:33:06] What do you say to criticism that a Plattener drops out, the new Democratic nominee is going to be someone voters did not actually choose?
[02:33:13] So, the Secretary of State, I can speak to the process.
[02:33:17] And main law is very clear that primary candidates can withdraw up to 5 p.m. on the second Tuesday
[02:33:23] and July, and then the party can choose a replacement candidate up to the fourth Monday.
[02:33:29] That's July 27th by 5 p.m.
[02:33:33] The law is silent on how the parties choose their candidates.
[02:33:36] I know the main Democratic Party has pledged to be as open and transparent as possible.
[02:33:41] I think it's really important that as many Democratic voters have a voice in this process
[02:33:48] when Graham Platner withdraws.
[02:33:50] I think that's really important, that focus on participation and inclusion.
[02:33:55] As someone who would like to be the Democratic Senate nominee, how do you think it should
[02:33:59] play out?
[02:34:00] What do you think that process should be?
[02:34:02] So to be clear, I'm still seriously considering it, but I think it's really important that
[02:34:08] whoever the nominee is, is able to unite Mainers
[02:34:11] and beat Susan Collins with just over 100 days to go
[02:34:16] because the stakes are so high.
[02:34:19] Control of the US Senate is at stake,
[02:34:21] holding Donald Trump accountable,
[02:34:24] and standing up and fighting for the working class
[02:34:26] over billionaires and massive corporations.
[02:34:29] Those ideals, that is incredibly important.
[02:34:33] And I think there's tremendous energy in Maine
[02:34:36] to beat Susan Collins and to win control of the U.S. Senate.
[02:34:40] And I think we can't lose sight of the fact
[02:34:43] that this was never about a person.
[02:34:45] It was a movement for change.
[02:34:48] He was a grand platter supporter.
[02:34:50] That was at least until yesterday.
[02:34:53] I want to hear,
[02:34:56] I want to hear from,
[02:35:00] well, first of all, we have a manor.
[02:35:03] We have a manor with a,
[02:35:05] Shana Bellows sticker, who's ready to go. Okay. This position is for the
[02:35:13] seizing, for the taking. Okay. His name is Zoran Kwame Mamdani, responsible for
[02:35:23] the students for just for Palestine chapter, starting in Bowdoin College in
[02:35:31] in Maine, okay? Zoran Maine Dami.
[02:35:47] The problem, of course, is that back in 2014, Bellows got absolutely destroyed by Susan
[02:36:01] Collins.
[02:36:02] Okay?
[02:36:03] Interestingly enough, there's another manor who now lives in New York City.
[02:36:10] Her name, Miss Rachel.
[02:36:15] This Maine, Rachel.
[02:36:21] Man, I suggest Zoran Maine Dummy.
[02:36:32] So there are a lot of Mainers,
[02:36:33] they just don't live in Maine.
[02:36:36] Any longer, they've chosen to live in New York City
[02:36:40] instead, we are cursed.
[02:36:41] But the crop of talent that we got it is what it is. I don't think Ms. Rachel's audience can vote quite just yet
[02:36:55] God damn what the hell is this
[02:36:58] The live link for CNN Haley Stevens on CNN right now talking about Abdul, but I can't click on I
[02:37:05] can't figure out the live link
[02:37:08] Because
[02:37:11] There's too many ads. Does anyone have a CNN live incoming vocal stems? Okay, calm down.
[02:37:23] Calm down. Vladimir Putin.
[02:37:27] And public health. And I'm not going to stop as Michigan's next United States senator.
[02:37:36] What is?
[02:37:37] when it counts, when we see billionaires getting tax cuts,
[02:37:40] while Michiganders pay more for health care,
[02:37:43] utility bills, and health care.
[02:37:45] I got people breaking down in stores to me right now
[02:37:49] about what's going on in their lives.
[02:37:51] We've worked too hard for this.
[02:37:53] We know how to make it through tough times,
[02:37:55] and I am eager to be one of the leaders
[02:37:58] that the people of my great state deserve in this moment.
[02:38:02] Fair enough.
[02:38:02] Now, I know I said I was about to let you go,
[02:38:04] but I did want to circle back and ask you
[02:38:06] one follow-up question to what we were talking about before. You addressed Israel's right to exist.
[02:38:11] You said that you support a two-state solution. Does that mean do you think Palestine has a right to exist?
[02:38:18] Absolutely. Absolutely. I believe in the right of the people of Palestine to self-determine
[02:38:25] as a peaceful state, alongside a peaceful state of Israel. We have a peaceful state of
[02:38:32] standing military standing military for Palestine is a member of Congress that is where I push for aid and resources
[02:38:39] This is why I'm in something called the Abraham Accords
[02:38:44] caucus to support peace and
[02:38:47] within the
[02:38:49] Rebuilding a gossip that needs to happen immediately that needs to grow
[02:38:54] literally pro-trump that will have to go on in Lebanon as
[02:38:58] as Hezbollah gets diminished and removed.
[02:39:01] And look, you know, we've got to see a path forward for democracy and free trade for freedom.
[02:39:09] I believe in freedom. Thank you.
[02:39:13] All right, Congressman Naly Stevens, thanks very much for your time. I really appreciate it.
[02:39:16] Dude, she's just literally ripped the Trump policy verbatim. Well, multiple. She said,
[02:39:21] She's also pro uh diminishing his but he has a lot
[02:39:31] He has a lot
[02:39:35] That's crazy um, yeah, no this is uh
[02:39:44] So here's what here's the deal here's the deal. Okay. Here's what's up. I'm gonna put you on some game right now
[02:39:51] Super simple solution. Super simple solution to this problem. It's very clear that APAC
[02:40:01] is allowing their stooges a lot more bandwidth to be critical of Israel. Okay? A lot more
[02:40:10] bandwidth to be critical of Israel because they realize that Americans fucking hate Israel.
[02:40:15] This is new.
[02:40:16] APAC in the past would not allow any kind of criticism.
[02:40:23] She still doesn't really criticize Israel, if you noticed.
[02:40:27] So all you got to do is be like, is Israel an occupation?
[02:40:33] Is Israel maintaining an apartheid?
[02:40:36] They're going to say no.
[02:40:37] They can't say yes to that, at least for the time being.
[02:40:41] But if they were to say yes to that, then you go, okay.
[02:40:44] If it's an apartheid, if it's an occupation, then are you in favor of the abolition of
[02:40:50] it?
[02:40:51] Okay.
[02:40:52] And two, what are the steps that you're comfortable with in enforcing the abolition of this apartheid
[02:40:58] or ending this occupation?
[02:41:01] Are you comfortable with an arms embargo?
[02:41:02] Are you comfortable with sanctions on Israel?
[02:41:06] So right now, the red line for APEC has moved beyond even sometimes being critical of Netanyahu.
[02:41:13] It's very clear you can be critical of Netanyahu now without them getting too
[02:41:18] Too frustrated with you. Okay
[02:41:22] So you just move on
[02:41:24] You move on this the struggle continues. You just got to keep pushing
[02:41:30] Okay a
[02:41:33] Major arm of the pro-Israel lobby backs Rahm Emanuel's tough love speech a sign that it views his sentiment as is as the best option
[02:41:40] can hope for a democratic party increasingly skeptical of its worldview. Democratic majority
[02:41:44] for Israel actually finds Ramah Manuel's tough love speech saying that Israel doesn't have a
[02:41:53] democratic party problem. Israel has an America problem. Israel has a generational problem to be
[02:41:59] an acceptable speech. This is an arm of APEC. Okay. This is an APEC subsidiary. So if
[02:42:07] If they're subscribing to this, that means you can hear a similar sentiment from Hayley Stevens as well.
[02:42:14] Okay?
[02:42:17] Of course, their tactics were going to change, right?
[02:42:22] These people are not so ideologically minded that they were never going to engage in a
[02:42:37] level of pragmatism.
[02:42:39] It took them years to get here, but now we have to also make sure that we change our
[02:42:46] tactics as well.
[02:42:48] that simple. Because the ultimate goal has always been the end of the occupation, the
[02:42:55] end of the apartheid, accountability for genocide, right? That's always been the ultimate goal.
[02:43:01] So BDS is the floor, technically, and we can't even get them to subscribe to the floor, but
[02:43:07] We will, but we will.
[02:43:11] Okay?
[02:43:16] They're moving the goalposts, which means the goalposts are coming closer to our
[02:43:23] vision.
[02:43:24] Okay?
[02:43:29] It's that simple.
[02:43:30] One of the things that the APAC-backed candidates will never say is that Israel can committed
[02:43:39] a genocide. One of the things that they will never subscribe to is the notion that Israel
[02:43:51] is an apartheid state. Okay? It's the truth. So we asked them. We asked them how they
[02:44:17] feel about that. They won't be able to, they won't be able to say something truthful there
[02:44:22] because they don't operate off of a, a place of moral conviction. This is just like whatever
[02:44:29] APEC is giving them as an allowance, the room to breathe, the room to maneuver in the American
[02:44:36] political landscape. This is not a genuine change of heart for these people. It's not
[02:44:41] not at all. It's simply them trying to win elections so they can still be loyal servants
[02:44:49] to the state of Israel. Okay. This is not a bad thing. It's a good thing. It's only
[02:44:56] a bad thing if we do not recognize these changes taking place.
[02:45:00] Today, Dr. Shah, welcome. I'm eager to get your take because I wonder if you even spoken
[02:45:06] with Platner or his campaign since the sexual assault
[02:45:09] allegations surfaced yesterday.
[02:45:13] Well, good evening, Moron.
[02:45:14] Thank you for having me on.
[02:45:15] And I have not spoken with Graham nor have I spoken directly
[02:45:19] with his campaign.
[02:45:21] Like so many others, when I read and my wife and I
[02:45:24] read the horrifying and appalling allegations yesterday,
[02:45:28] we both simultaneously developed a pit in our stomach.
[02:45:31] And I went to Twitter and other social media platforms
[02:45:34] as quickly as I could, and called for him to withdraw his name from consideration in
[02:45:39] this race. What I'm looking to now is how we fill this void and ultimately defeat Senator
[02:45:45] Collins come November.
[02:45:47] Now, obviously the allegations extremely disturbing. He does deny them, but Plattner, at least
[02:45:54] in this campaign, has been no stranger to controversy. I mean, there's been questionable
[02:45:57] conduct for women that's been out since before the primary. Lindsay Feifeld accused Plattner
[02:46:03] of domestic abuse to the New York Times.
[02:46:05] Now, he has denied that as well.
[02:46:07] What was it about this latest allegation
[02:46:09] for you to withdraw your support
[02:46:10] as opposed to the prior controversies?
[02:46:14] Absolutely, and that's the...
[02:46:16] Yeah, by the way, yeah, Shah,
[02:46:19] I'm gonna repeat this one more time,
[02:46:21] but Shah quite literally said in a town hall meeting
[02:46:26] that landlords were unjustly maligned
[02:46:30] and that he was on the side of landlords.
[02:46:33] Just remember that when you hear anything that he's saying here. Okay.
[02:46:38] Exactly question to focus on.
[02:46:40] There were a few things that are different here.
[02:46:41] Number one of them is the severity of them alleged forcible rape.
[02:46:46] The other is the documentation that accompanied it. And of course,
[02:46:49] there's also this phenomenon of more at some point becomes this straw that
[02:46:53] breaks the proverbial camels back.
[02:46:55] There were too many lines here that were crossed.
[02:46:57] And for me, and for so many other Democrats,
[02:47:00] this was not a direction we continued to want to go.
[02:47:03] That's because Laura, the stakes are incredibly high.
[02:47:06] We have an obligation in service of not just Maynors,
[02:47:10] but in service of the entire country
[02:47:12] to defeat Senator Collins this upcoming November,
[02:47:15] and it was clear that Mr. Plattener
[02:47:17] would be unable to do so.
[02:47:18] That's the course that I'm evaluating right now.
[02:47:21] There are so many Plattener voters
[02:47:23] who are feeling incredibly let down.
[02:47:26] We remember after the last Senate allegations
[02:47:29] concerning sexting and beyond,
[02:47:31] He talked about how essentially he was being targeted.
[02:47:36] He was, they were weaponizing campaigns against him.
[02:47:38] The supporters behind him spoke about their ferocious support
[02:47:43] for him.
[02:47:44] But if he steps down now, and that's
[02:47:46] an if because he is still in the race,
[02:47:48] as we are talking right now.
[02:47:49] But if he steps down, and if, say, you jump into this race,
[02:47:54] you aren't just asking for their votes.
[02:47:56] You're asking for their trust.
[02:47:58] How do you prove to Platinum supporters
[02:47:59] that you might be able to deliver on those promises
[02:48:01] that he has so readily made.
[02:48:05] You know, that will be a challenge facing
[02:48:07] whoever the next nominee is.
[02:48:08] And I believe, as you note,
[02:48:10] that I'm in a strong decision to earn.
[02:48:14] My family and I, as well as my team and I,
[02:48:17] are evaluating the options right now.
[02:48:19] We wanna make sure it's the right decision
[02:48:21] for our family as well.
[02:48:23] Yes, this is the school privatization,
[02:48:26] school voucher guy. This is the pro landlord guy.
[02:48:31] Well, it was the right decision professionally. And part because of how much is at stake right
[02:48:35] now is I've met. Bro, you can't say Riz was motherfucker. This is main. Okay.
[02:48:43] What the hell is this? In the coming days, the Trump administration will hold a meeting
[02:48:46] with dozens of nations discussed fighting Antifa. But some US officials are worried
[02:48:50] as part of an effort by Sebastian Gorka to use powerful tools designed for fighting
[02:48:53] foreign terrorist to crack down on left wing activists in the US. That's precisely what
[02:48:57] they're going to do.
[02:49:00] Yeah, their goals are to eviscerate any kind of discontent, any kind of dissent in the
[02:49:09] country against Donald Trump. It's not like Antifa or whatever. So if liberals personally
[02:49:14] think that this is going to spare them, they're stupid. It's not going to spare them at all.
[02:49:19] They are trying to normalize the NSPM7 standard for combating what they perceive as terrorism.
[02:49:29] America has no domestic terror statute because it's in direct awe with the First Amendment.
[02:49:34] This is going to be a test for the First Amendment, considering that this Supreme Court was pliant
[02:49:44] enough to almost gut birthright citizenship by executive fiat. This is a terrifying, this
[02:49:54] is going to be a terrifying court case that will come up eventually. Okay, some Trump
[02:50:03] administration officials fear that a future Democratic administration could use the Gorka
[02:50:07] tactic as US conservatives. The idea is you're setting a precedent for a future Gavin Newsom
[02:50:10] administration to turn these authorities on conservice to the U.S. official, White House
[02:50:14] says there's no risk of that here. We will not permit the weaponization of America's
[02:50:18] unparalleled counterterrorism capabilities for partisan purposes.
[02:50:32] Future Gavin Newsman.
[02:50:33] And as you know, Laura, job number one for whoever the next nominee will be, will be
[02:50:38] to unify the party, including many of Mr. Platner supporters. In the recent
[02:50:43] gubernatorial where I came in second in second place, we had a significant number
[02:50:48] of crossover voters who were voters of mine as well as voters of Graham.
[02:50:53] Graham and I share a lot of the same progressive ideals like Medicare for all,
[02:50:57] taxing billionaires, but to make no mistake, there will be a challenge to make sure that
[02:51:02] the party is unified. Without a unified party, Senator Collins will win reelection
[02:51:07] And that will be to the detriment of all mayors.
[02:51:10] For months, the populist progressive energy
[02:51:13] inside the Democratic Party has been concentrated
[02:51:15] in blue cities.
[02:51:16] But now that movement is testing something bigger.
[02:51:19] Can a Democratic socialist win over voters
[02:51:21] in one of America's most competitive swing states?
[02:51:24] Does the energy in New York, LA, DC, and Denver
[02:51:27] translate in the Midwest?
[02:51:29] Progressive Democratic Senate candidate,
[02:51:30] Abdul El Sayed of Michigan certainly thinks so.
[02:51:33] And in Wisconsin, Democratic Socialist Assemblywoman
[02:51:36] Francesca Hong is now leading the polls in the state's Democratic primary for
[02:51:40] governor. Assemblywoman Hong joins me now. It is great to see you this morning
[02:51:45] and to have you on. I want to start our conversation just sticking in a little
[02:51:50] bit into your background because it's different than the backgrounds of a lot
[02:51:53] of the politicians that we speak to. You're the child of Korean immigrants.
[02:51:56] At one point you had to drop out of college to work and who we grew in
[02:52:03] foreign wisconsin francesca hung all the way baby what the fuck are you talking about um and one
[02:52:08] of the things that you will see in this interview that fox news covered uh is the same thing that
[02:52:15] they're trying to do with obdul they're trying to hit it with the obdul line why did you appear on
[02:52:21] hasan piker stream don't you regret it you were sued last year over credit card debts that you've
[02:52:29] You've since paid off, but that's something that many Americans can actually relate to,
[02:52:33] but maybe not too many governors or lawmakers.
[02:52:36] So tell me a bit about how your personal upbringing has informed your politics.
[02:52:42] Well, I'm interview mogging MSNBC, MSDNC.
[02:52:50] I asked this question way better.
[02:52:52] First of all, thank you so much, Antonio, for having me.
[02:52:55] And being a service industry worker means that, you know, I am a hustler and I know
[02:53:01] what it means to work hard like so many Wisconsinites across the state.
[02:53:06] And my lived experiences in the service.
[02:53:08] David Crowley dropped out and told everyone else to drop out and support Rodriguez, his
[02:53:11] fuck dog.
[02:53:12] Yeah.
[02:53:13] I know they are aggressively trying to push the centrist line of support behind one candidate.
[02:53:22] They're trying to solidify central support behind Rodriguez right now.
[02:53:28] And the other side of the story, of course, is Mandela Barnes, who previously ran as a
[02:53:38] left-flank candidate, and they dropped the national party, they did not support him for
[02:53:45] that reason.
[02:53:46] So now, Barnes actually running a centrist candidate to see himself, but he still has
[02:53:51] like a little bit of that progressive wing backing him as well. So, Francesca actually has a,
[02:53:57] even though she's the most popular and has been the most popular candidate in the primaries,
[02:54:02] there are a lot of forces, there are a lot of forces that are at play here that are trying
[02:54:11] to rat fuck Francesca Hong's candidacy.
[02:54:14] The service industry as a restaurant owner and, you know, five years now in the state
[02:54:20] legislature, I think it gives me an opportunity to connect with voters in many different ways.
[02:54:27] Tell me about those connections, because as I've watched your campaign from afar,
[02:54:31] you're not just going out there and talking to Democrats. You are crossing through your state
[02:54:35] trying to talk to me. Yeah, Mandela Barnes losing the Ron Johnson was a scarring incident.
[02:54:41] And it wasn't because of his own faults or failures. It was literally because he was running as a
[02:54:48] the most progressive person at that point and
[02:54:51] When that happened the the National Party did not back him at all. They were too busy fucking
[02:54:57] deploying all funds to
[02:55:00] if I remember yeah, DSCC didn't support him and and they basically
[02:55:05] chose not to give him any give him any aid and the party was spending money
[02:55:11] elsewhere like very foolish races like yeah Vell Demings and and all these
[02:55:16] other foolish races whereas Mandela Barnes like with a little bit of support
[02:55:20] could have probably I mean would have definitely actually defeated Ron Johnson
[02:55:24] it was a huge deal back then I remember having said that having said that
[02:55:32] that. Having said that, Mandela Barnes is not the progressive hero either. I'm just
[02:55:39] saying in comparison to Ron Johnson, he would have been much better. Mandela Barnes is basically
[02:55:46] in this race right now and has a decent viability and is probably the best challenger to Francesca
[02:55:58] Hong, which is really, really bad. Unfortunately, I hope, I mean, the right thing to do for
[02:56:04] Barnes would be to literally drop out and lend all of his support to Francesca Hong.
[02:56:10] But none of these guys actually, none of these guys unfortunately actually give a shit about
[02:56:16] a movement. They're not real movement builders. They are simply in it for themselves. That
[02:56:22] is the reality.
[02:56:24] conservative residents in Wisconsin. And I'm curious how it goes when you connect with them.
[02:56:29] And then they hear that word socialist, which in so many of our media ecosystems is, you know,
[02:56:35] something that they're told to be very afraid of. Yeah, I know people who are long time friends
[02:56:40] with Barnes. And I can tell you from the friends he keeps, he definitely ain't no progressive.
[02:56:43] Yeah, there was another person who literally said, I used to be friends with Barnes. Yeah. Oh,
[02:56:49] Mandela and I used to be friends. And now he's so moderate shit sucks. Yeah, he pivoted.
[02:56:53] When he got cooked by the national Democrats from the DSCC and got no support and he lost that raise
[02:56:59] It like I think it bricked him and it made him into this like this this, you know warrenite style wrecker. I
[02:57:09] Love talking to everyone and anyone literally sometimes stopping folks in the streets
[02:57:14] And what we hear so often is that people are stressed
[02:57:18] they're tired and they're ready for change as opposed to this chaos. I think that when
[02:57:25] folks hear socialism, they may be taken aback, but I bring it back to potholes and the packers
[02:57:33] and public education and, you know, issues that have broad bipartisan support and broad
[02:57:39] bipartisan opposition like data centers and then support for our public schools and universal
[02:57:45] child care, lowering working class people's taxes by taxing the wealthiest few and mega corporations.
[02:57:52] These are issues and conversations that I'm having with folks in every corner of our state.
[02:57:58] I want to talk to you and dig in a bit more. What are the dumb ass fucking Packers have to do
[02:58:01] with this? Fuck the Packers bro. Shut the fuck up. Shut your bitch ass mouth up. Okay. We're talking
[02:58:05] about the beautiful state of Wisconsin. Go Packers all day every day. I'm a fucking cheesehead.
[02:58:12] Ride or die. Sorry. It's the only publicly owned fucking team. Okay
[02:58:18] It's the only motherfucking publicly owned team in the goddamn NFL. How dare you
[02:58:23] How dare you
[02:58:25] public ownership, baby
[02:58:28] Potholes packers public schools
[02:58:31] francesca hung in five
[02:58:38] Order a cheesehead you fucking kidding me
[02:58:41] I will be wearing that goddamn cheese at when I go to Wisconsin.
[02:58:45] I'm coming.
[02:58:46] Wisconsin, I'm coming to your state.
[02:58:49] And I'll be wearing that goddamn cheese at everywhere I go.
[02:58:52] On data centers, because that's a huge issue, not just in Wisconsin, but around the country.
[02:58:57] And I know that there are some voters up and some who are not Democrats, considering you,
[02:59:01] because of your stance on AI data centers, you've called for a moratorium on their construction.
[02:59:07] Your state already has dozens of them, though.
[02:59:10] And I'm wondering what you think you can really deliver for voters with a moratorium, and
[02:59:15] if there's any risk of Wisconsin losing out if construction continues all across the country.
[02:59:22] These dozens of data centers across Wisconsin are exempt from sales and use tax.
[02:59:28] And the construction of more hyperscale AI data centers, the response has been that communities
[02:59:34] want community control, not NDAs and promises and jobs, but real concrete measures that
[02:59:42] will put regulations that preserve our natural resources, protect rate payers from skyrocketing
[02:59:48] utility costs, and that we are thinking about our shared future for our kids where there's
[02:59:53] clean water, lower costs, and we're not – taxpayers aren't on the hook for what could
[02:59:59] happen when these data centers are no longer in use.
[03:00:04] I wanna talk to you a bit about some of the debates
[03:00:06] and controversies that have also been a part of this race
[03:00:10] because while we talked about socialism
[03:00:12] and sort of the labels coming from the right,
[03:00:15] the reality is that there are criticisms
[03:00:17] that have come on the left as well.
[03:00:19] You appeared on two controversial live streams,
[03:00:22] one with Hassan Piker,
[03:00:24] another with a guy called Mike from Pennsylvania,
[03:00:26] former Democratic, Wisconsin elections commissioner
[03:00:29] and Jacobs said of your appearance is this.
[03:00:32] When you decide these are the sort of people
[03:00:34] you wanna hang out with in order to raise money,
[03:00:37] you have made clear that you either,
[03:00:39] one, agree with them, or two, can be bought,
[03:00:42] or three, both, Fran Hong appears to be all.
[03:00:46] She is willing to sell out the Jews of Wisconsin
[03:00:49] for a few bucks.
[03:00:50] And I wanna give you the opportunity to respond to that.
[03:00:55] I condemn hatred, discrimination, anti-Semitism,
[03:00:58] and Islamophobia, any sort of dehumanizing of communities, being on these streams. It's
[03:01:07] important that we get our message out in places where, you know, campaign struggle to reach voters.
[03:01:14] Just because I am on a platform certainly does not mean that I endorse everything that has been
[03:01:20] MSNBC, by the way. MSNOW. Calling me and Michael from Pennsylvania controversial. This is the most
[03:01:34] liberal mainstream media network. All I'm going to say is this.
[03:01:45] I've never appeared on MSNOW.
[03:01:50] I've never appeared on MSNOW.
[03:01:55] Think.
[03:01:58] Jonathan Greenblatt, on the other hand, appears on MSNOW all the time.
[03:02:05] Yeah.
[03:02:13] Yeah.
[03:02:19] My dog Kyra says hello.
[03:02:20] She also says she's happy
[03:02:22] for not having an electric collar.
[03:02:23] Hell yeah.
[03:02:25] My dog Kyra is also happy
[03:02:27] for not having an electric collar.
[03:02:28] Either the hosts or other people who have gone on.
[03:02:31] And if candidates and elected officials
[03:02:33] who are speaking with more controversial hosts,
[03:02:37] if we are to be responsible for everything
[03:02:40] that they have ever said,
[03:02:41] I would point to the fact that Tom Tiffin.
[03:02:44] I like how everyone just concedes to the idea that you're anti-Semitic and a terrorist.
[03:02:47] They just say they don't agree with your beliefs.
[03:02:49] It's fucking bullshit, to be honest.
[03:02:51] I'm not. I don't care.
[03:02:54] I don't care because I don't want.
[03:02:59] I don't want Abdul or Francesca
[03:03:03] to get bogged down, defending the most negatively framed
[03:03:08] choice quotes that they're going to slam if they come across like they're
[03:03:16] endorsing everything that I've ever said. Okay? You have to be pragmatic.
[03:03:22] Obviously, if these people thought that I was a fucking vicious anti-Semite, they
[03:03:26] wouldn't come on my broadcast. Okay? If they thought that myself or Michael from
[03:03:34] Pennsylvania were like rabid anti-Semites, then they wouldn't do this. They
[03:03:37] wouldn't come on my podcast, my broadcast, or his, right? It's just a very effective
[03:03:47] way to deflate this bad faith smear, this bad faith attack, especially because it is
[03:04:03] There's nothing to do with policy and these are policy-centered campaigns, okay?
[03:04:10] These are policy-centered campaigns.
[03:04:14] The best thing you can do in the circumstance is to be like, look, I'm talking to a bunch
[03:04:17] of people that we have left behind.
[03:04:21] I'm not going to endorse every single thing that any content creator has said, but having
[03:04:25] said that, of course, I'm going to go there to talk to people.
[03:04:29] Of course, I'm going to go to the talk to people.
[03:04:30] I don't agree with everything you've said, but I'm here talking to your audience, right?
[03:04:36] And as governor of a swing state, what I'm doing every day is talking to Trump voters,
[03:04:48] right?
[03:04:50] Hey, young man, do you have some kind of resource illustrating how you're not anti-Semitic against
[03:04:57] these ADL third-way websites like a formal resource or something. I mean, not really.
[03:05:02] It's just my my my long many many years of advocacy. These elections aren't ego tests
[03:05:11] for you. If they need the shit on you to win, you don't give a shit. The realities of those
[03:05:15] who you talk to like friends or on Abdul understand that they don't have to shit on you to still
[03:05:19] be on the right side of issues. Exactly. If they were to turn around, if they were to
[03:05:25] turn around and be like, yeah, Hasan, I'm really sorry for going on his stream. Okay. I'm really
[03:05:32] sorry for going on a stream. He's really bad. He's really fucked up or whatever. That actually
[03:05:38] would not just like ruin their credibility, but that actually would be a massive mistake,
[03:05:44] not because I'm like a super popular person, right? I'm not saying that at all. But it would
[03:05:49] be a mistake because then they would be admitting guilt when no such guilt needs to be admitted.
[03:05:55] then they would say, oh, well, why did you go on a stream then? Are you stupid? Why did you do that?
[03:05:59] Like, so, so that would be a sign of weakness. And that would be weaponized against them. Okay.
[03:06:07] That would be weaponized against them endlessly. As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact,
[03:06:18] Then, refusing to back down on these appearances and also deflecting on these appearances like
[03:06:26] being raised as an issue is the smart thing to do because they get to solidify not only
[03:06:33] their support for certain causes, right?
[03:06:44] But then also on top of that, they get to show that they're real fighters, that they're
[03:06:49] not going to back away from certain issues, like their moral convictions, right, on certain
[03:06:53] issues, especially on Israel, which is huge.
[03:06:57] And not only that, but they also get to reframe the conversation about how open-minded they
[03:07:03] are about, they get to reframe the conversation around like being able to talk to people
[03:07:11] where they are. Okay.
[03:07:18] The Republican likely nominee has been on a radio show that has called for the execution
[03:07:25] of the governor of Minnesota. So I think it's important to recognize that when we are campaigning
[03:07:31] in areas where folks may not. Are you going to talk about this? Dude, dude, what's happening?
[03:07:37] You spammed the chat with bullshit. Yeah, I saw man. I don't care. Yeah, she she literally said she was wrong and apologize for it
[03:07:44] The fuck do you want?
[03:07:46] What do you want?
[03:07:49] What do you want or who are you who are you in the tank for because let me tell you something
[03:07:54] Okay, francesca hong is far
[03:07:59] Above everybody else in this fucking race in terms of her advocacy for palestinians
[03:08:06] So who are you in favor of? Who is your replacement? Who the fuck do you think is better on this issue?
[03:08:16] Yes, Francesca Hong
[03:08:19] Francesca Hong
[03:08:20] Apologize when she saw an effigy that she thought was anti-semitic her constituents were calling her on it
[03:08:27] She called 911 to be like, hey, can you guys take this down?
[03:08:31] down. Like this looks like a hate crime, okay? This was in 2023. Do you feel like this is
[03:08:39] a valid critique? Like, do you, she apologized for it? She literally said she regrets the
[03:08:49] decision that she's, she was wrong about it, that she's sorry for it.
[03:08:56] Do you feel like this is, do you feel like this is a relevant point?
[03:09:00] She's over here literally fucking defending going on my stream, going on Michael from
[03:09:04] Pennsylvania stream saying like we got to go on these different places.
[03:09:07] So what, what is it?
[03:09:15] Why?
[03:09:16] Why are you bringing this up?
[03:09:19] Yeah, people tricked her by cropping photos and she introduced the bill at the suggestion
[03:09:25] of the artist. 33% of your chat left your community for less. Yes, I know. She lied
[03:09:35] about it. She's flip-flopping. Yes, this is very concerning about her judgment. Who are
[03:09:43] you invested in in this race? Tell me right now. I will endorse them instead. Who's your
[03:09:51] guy or gal. Come on. Go ahead. We're waiting. We're waiting. We're waiting. We're waiting.
[03:10:00] I want to hear. Who's your person?
[03:10:21] She called it a genocide a week after October 7. She was a leader in the
[03:10:26] uncommitted movement in Wisconsin. She has done the fucking laps. She has the
[03:10:31] legitimacy. This is not only a a fuck-up, certainly, okay, but it's an
[03:10:40] explainable one. Tell me who your guy is.
[03:10:45] Following since 38 minutes ago, 40 minutes ago, I think we can have a conversation about
[03:10:52] how concerning this is.
[03:10:53] Why is that crazy?
[03:10:54] Explain to me why you think it's appropriate to tarnish the actual moral conviction demonstrated
[03:11:04] by a person who was above and who has gone above and beyond on this issue.
[03:11:10] to me why you think someone who's an advocate for not only BDS but also embargo and embargo
[03:11:17] on Israel running for Wisconsin governor is being called in the question, okay, is being
[03:11:25] called in the question.
[03:11:26] What is the, who is, who is your person in this race?
[03:11:38] Who's your person in this race?
[03:11:44] Who's your preferred candidate?
[03:11:45] I'm asking a super simple,
[03:11:48] I'm asking you a super simple question.
[03:11:51] Who is your preferred candidate?
[03:11:53] Not Fran.
[03:11:54] Okay, so who is it?
[03:11:59] Ultra or APEC intern, call it.
[03:12:01] No, this is nothing.
[03:12:03] This is,
[03:12:08] Who's your preferred candidate?
[03:12:11] Carlos Dixon.
[03:12:13] Carlos Dixon is your preferred candidate.
[03:12:24] Independent Writing Campaign, Carlos Dixon.
[03:12:38] I think you're talking to him right now. No, I'm not. I think this person looked up
[03:12:51] whoever they could potentially because they said not Fran at first after I kept asking
[03:12:57] over and over again. Okay.
[03:13:03] Writing candidate for Wisconsin governor post videos of himself removing yards from signs
[03:13:07] writing Canada for Wisconsin governor posted a video on social media of himself. Carlos
[03:13:11] Lamar Dixon, an independent candidate for governor posted the video to Facebook on May
[03:13:15] 27 pulling yard signs out of lawns in Milwaukee's River Rest neighborhood. Dixon targeted campaign
[03:13:20] signs for a state rep, Francesca Hong's gubernatorial campaign and state rep, Ryan Clancy's reelection
[03:13:26] campaign. Both of those candidates are supported by the democratic socialists of America or
[03:13:29] DSA. Dixon told the Milwaukee courier that the yard signs are being held hostage and
[03:13:33] for ransom in opposition to the DSA's campaigns. Dixon ties the DSA organization to Zionists
[03:13:42] and the Israeli government. I'm an anti-Zionist. I'm an anti-imperialist. I'm anti-colonialism.
[03:13:50] That's what motivated me to do it, Dixon said.
[03:13:57] I don't want to make a version of capitalism that works for America. We need a revolution
[03:14:00] right now. Dixon said it's a contradiction that the Hong campaign is running on an affordability
[03:14:05] agenda while asking for donations. Hong claims, dude, I'm sorry. Every damn day, every damn
[03:14:13] day that I have to fucking deal with another like spiritual Spartacist is another damn
[03:14:19] day where I get closer and closer to certain excesses and certain political concepts that
[03:14:26] I never thought I would be understanding of never thought I would be sympathetic to okay. Oh
[03:14:33] My fucking god. No, this is not an ultra. It's worse. It's a trot
[03:14:42] I
[03:14:43] Always wondered when I first ventured into left-book territory many many years ago all the way pre pre 2016
[03:14:51] I always wondered why one of the number one rules in every left-book group was no trots
[03:14:57] I always at first. I was like, what is the reason for this?
[03:15:01] What's up with the fucking trots? Why is every ideological tendency on the left saying no fucking trots?
[03:15:09] Why is that the reason?
[03:15:16] You learn the fucking reason fairly early on
[03:15:21] Thank you.
[03:15:28] Yeah.
[03:15:45] Pied in this guy idealism.
[03:15:56] A revolution that never came.
[03:15:59] A demand against pragmatism every single step of the way.
[03:16:06] And then turning into a fucking neocon later down the line.
[03:16:14] Telltale Margaret's of a never mind. I don't even want to move into this any longer. Okay.
[03:16:40] Yeah, one of the most famous former Spartacists is Jim Kramer, Mad Money Jim Kramer, always
[03:16:47] remember that.
[03:16:50] Look, there are plenty of instances where MLs will get mad at me and will yell about
[03:17:07] my destructive behavior of the revolutionary tendency, a bastardization of Lennon's writings.
[03:17:17] Well, I guess trots do that too, because they also will talk about Lennon on great terms.
[03:17:37] Thank you for this chatter.
[03:17:45] This guy isn't a trot.
[03:17:51] He's just very mentally ill.
[03:17:53] Well, well, a Milwaukee man running for governor of Wisconsin is stealing political campaign
[03:17:59] signs around town and posting videos about it on social media.
[03:18:03] Even though it's illegal, he says he won't stop doing it.
[03:18:06] this out. So you're running for governor but it appears you're breaking laws every day.
[03:18:12] Why should Wisconsinite trust you? I mean am I breaking any laws? I'll have that. Carlos
[03:18:19] Lamar Dixon all day long has spent this past week recording himself. Enjoy your ring doorbell
[03:18:26] camera stealing campaign signs of Democratic gubernatorial candidate Francesca Hall. This
[03:18:31] this bull. Right here. And 19
[03:18:34] district representative Ryan
[03:18:35] Clancy Dixon, who says he's an independent
[03:18:38] right in Canada for governor filmed
[03:18:39] this video Thursday in Milwaukee's
[03:18:41] River West neighborhood and posted it to Facebook.
[03:18:44] When was the first time you've done this?
[03:18:46] Is this new? It is new.
[03:18:47] I think it was yesterday.
[03:18:49] Dixon says he's not stealing the signs
[03:18:51] instead taking signs for ransom as hostage.
[03:18:55] I am anti mega. I am anti capitalism.
[03:18:58] I am anti establishment.
[03:19:00] I am anti-Zionism, so whoever falls under those categories can feel the wrath of my political
[03:19:07] dissent.
[03:19:08] On Thursday, Dixon insisted 12 News Interfueled.
[03:19:11] Interesting that he's only going after Democratic Socialist candidates though.
[03:19:16] Interesting.
[03:19:17] In front of a Milwaukee police station.
[03:19:19] If I do get arrested, I'll get out and I'll try to find some more signs.
[03:19:23] So you're not concerned about me?
[03:19:24] Not concerned at all.
[03:19:26] We asked Milwaukee police if they're aware of the Facebook videos.
[03:19:28] the department said they did not have any calls for service regarding to Dixon
[03:19:32] also posted on Facebook Thursday, writing quote, politicians should be grateful
[03:19:36] that all I want is yard signs and not their heads. Was that a threat? Was it
[03:19:40] a threat? I'm asking a question. Was it a threat asking you? Was it a threat? I'm
[03:19:44] asking you. Was it a threat? Dixon says his signs dealing will cross political
[03:19:48] lines and target a GOP gubernatorial candidate to I see some Tom Tiffany
[03:19:52] signs out there. I'm gonna go snatch those up if I get the chance. He doesn't
[03:19:56] know how many signs he's taken, but claims they're all at his home.
[03:20:00] This was this is the candidate of this guy's choosing who was like Francesca
[03:20:04] Hong is bad.
[03:20:07] I've already heard our message.
[03:20:08] It's important to let them campaign law signs are a vehicle of bourgeois
[03:20:12] capitalism and peerless oppression on the pro territory of the world.
[03:20:14] If you really think about it, it's true.
[03:20:26] It's funny the deeper you go into like
[03:20:29] Leftist movements the more experience you have in these spaces the more you will see these people over and over again
[03:20:35] They always pop they always pop up
[03:20:44] Know that we are a campaign that is fighting for working-class people and it's important that folks are staying engaged on our elections here in Wisconsin
[03:20:53] I
[03:20:54] I want to ask you about how Israel and Gaza have also reshaped this race.
[03:20:59] It's reshaped the Democratic Party all across the country.
[03:21:02] It's not just the case in Wisconsin.
[03:21:04] You have made very clear you've said that you believe Israel has committed genocide in Gaza.
[03:21:08] And there's also been this debate in your state over an incident from 2023
[03:21:13] in which you called the police twice to report an anti-Israel protest display of some kind
[03:21:19] on behalf of constituents who told you at that time that they believed that it was anti-Semitic.
[03:21:24] You've since apologized for doing that. Can you explain why?
[03:21:30] I was unaware that this was an act of protest. I did not see the words ceasefire now.
[03:21:38] And I was responding to community members and my constituents that had expressed deep concern over that display.
[03:21:47] And so I was responding to people's fear and pain and I always will choose
[03:21:54] There's trust in the DSA too, by the way, I'm not talking about all of them. All right
[03:22:00] Talking about a very specific type to make sure that communities feel safe and as a democratic socialist
[03:22:06] It means that my values are rooted in democracy
[03:22:10] fairness and human rights and whether it's here or across the
[03:22:14] across different parts of the country or across the world.
[03:22:19] It's important that we denounce genocide
[03:22:21] and call it for what it is and vow to protect communities
[03:22:26] and ensure that everyone feels safe
[03:22:28] in practicing their faith.
[03:22:30] With our final seconds here, can you just tell me about?
[03:22:34] They follow 40 minutes ago,
[03:22:36] sub the post and then deactivated their account,
[03:22:38] by the way.
[03:22:39] I'm willing to bet that is actually him. At first, I didn't think that was the case,
[03:22:47] but low key, that is definitely him. It's either him or a federal agent at this point.
[03:23:00] This guy's on my feet every day. I hate him. I'm from Milwaukee. He constantly hates on
[03:23:03] Hong and calls you out. By the way, that was him earlier. Respect. That was definitely him.
[03:23:19] What is this? Look at my communist dog. Oh, dude, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on,
[03:23:22] stop. We're not doing that. No, that's bait. I don't want to touch that right now. Stop it.
[03:23:27] bit about how you plan to build on the legacy of Tony Evers in the state.
[03:23:32] Because that's like twofold. Look, I just did the Socialist Worker Party Marxist Conference,
[03:23:39] okay? I don't want to get into this right now. That's a trot organization, is it not?
[03:23:53] that many Democrats still have immense affection for there and maybe wondering sort of how your
[03:23:58] policies, your process may build on his. We will carry forward the governor's passion for
[03:24:05] public education, ensuring that we are fully funding our public schools and public universities,
[03:24:12] that our governor has been forced to govern by defense and Democrats now have an opportunity
[03:24:18] to win back the trifecta and ensure that we are delivering for Wisconsinites on health care,
[03:24:24] on public schools, on environmentalism. Our Wisconsin progressive routes run deep,
[03:24:30] and this is a state where so many progressive ideals and policies have come from,
[03:24:35] and we're ready to move those forward and deliver for Wisconsinites.
[03:24:39] Francesca Hong, so good to have you on MSNOW. Thank you.
[03:24:43] Thanks so much for having me, Antonia.
[03:24:48] Look, all you need to know about some of the trot tendencies is that they get the benefit
[03:25:09] of leaning into a profoundly important participation of the revolution who never actually seized
[03:25:16] power afterwards, so they never had to deal with all of the issues of governance.
[03:25:23] Okay, that's it. That's the nicest, most charitable interpretation
[03:25:32] of people who love Trotsky and believe that he would have done a better job than Stalin.
[03:25:39] Okay, the problem is there's one element of Trotsky, who was a fantastic writer for the record.
[03:25:51] There's one element of Trotsky that some Trots carry the flame on, which is being unparalleled in
[03:26:00] being a fucking nuisance. Okay.
[03:26:09] It's insane down the motherfucking Frida Kahlo.
[03:26:24] The encounters, the encounters show the, the history.
[03:26:33] have any hope of winning control of the Senate this November. Virtually every path involves
[03:26:40] holding each seat that they currently control while flipping four Republican health seats.
[03:26:45] The most vulnerable of the states that they are currently defending is now Michigan, which
[03:26:49] MS now rates as a toss-up. With the Democratic primary now less than a month away, the latest
[03:26:54] poll shows a statistical dead heat. Congresswoman Hailey Stevens, a four-term moderate, has
[03:27:00] the support of 42% of voters.
[03:27:03] Not Haley Stevens carrying the flame.
[03:27:09] I mean, we do it too, so let's be real.
[03:27:11] We do it too here, folks.
[03:27:13] Folks, we do it too, as long as you subscribe.
[03:27:17] If you subscribe for $6 or for free or a gift of sub,
[03:27:21] if you subscribe for $6 or for free or a gift of sub,
[03:27:26] we too can carry the flame like Haley Stevens.
[03:27:30] According to a new political poll, while Abdul El Sayed, a progressive former public health
[03:27:52] official, gets a support of 41 percent.
[03:27:55] This is all well within the margin of error.
[03:27:58] And it is important to note that a full 18% in the survey say they are not sure who they'll
[03:28:04] support, which means this is a race that could flip it any moment.
[03:28:08] We have extended invitations to both of the Democratic candidates.
[03:28:11] And one of them joins me now, Abdul El Sayed, Democratic candidate for the United States
[03:28:16] Senate in Michigan.
[03:28:18] Abdul, thank you for joining us.
[03:28:20] I just laid out some of the polls.
[03:28:22] And I think a lot of people know that you have been leading.
[03:28:25] never guess who Hailey Stevens endorses in the 2020 run for president? Michael Bloomberg.
[03:28:30] Easy question. Don't even comment me on my Hailey Stevens trivia. Huh. You think I'm
[03:28:39] not the fucking king of Hailey Stevens trivia? What do you mean? By the way, between Abdul
[03:28:51] and Haley. Only one literally took out a dude who is not only Jewish but is like a like
[03:29:04] a prominent fixture in the Jewish community and you live in. It's so funny. Haley Stevens
[03:29:17] Is this something objectively more anti-Semitic than Abdul El Sayed ever could do?
[03:29:22] Which was go after a candidate that was like somewhat critical of Israel or pretty critical
[03:29:28] of Israel at the time.
[03:29:35] And take him out at the behest of APEC.
[03:29:38] in the polls when it was a three person race, but then after Mallory McMarrow dropped, Haley
[03:29:48] Stevens has closed in on you.
[03:29:50] So how are you going to win?
[03:29:54] Level 3 ride train.
[03:30:01] If you want me to carry the flame, if you want, what gives?
[03:30:08] If you want me to carry the flame, subscribe or give the sub.
[03:30:35] That gives level 5 hype trade.
[03:30:41] Just ignore me and thank you.
[03:30:43] What Tommy says.
[03:30:46] What Tommy says.
[03:30:49] Thank you for the 50 subs.
[03:30:52] What gives.
[03:30:55] This race like who is your coalition.
[03:30:58] So thank you first for having me and I just want to draw attention to that poll wasn't
[03:31:02] from Politico.
[03:31:03] seems to be funded by APAC and they are really eager to generate this idea that somehow all
[03:31:09] these voters who would have supported my past opponent Mallory McMoroll are now supporting
[03:31:14] the current opponent Haley Stevens. But look, I wanted to ask you about those kind of polls,
[03:31:21] but since you brought it up, I'm wondering because I have heard similar things about a poll that
[03:31:27] you put out that showed that you all were, I think it was something like 13 or 16 points ahead
[03:31:33] of Haley Stevens. I am somebody that knows intimately, polls don't vote, people do.
[03:31:38] So I guess I take it back to whether the polls are being juiced or not. What is the
[03:31:43] coalition that you think you can put together to win in this primary?
[03:31:48] Well, I'll tell you this, we're already putting it together. I've been up and down the state.
[03:31:52] 110 different cities now, 450 public events. And polling, you're right, is this really
[03:31:58] and perfect science. What really matters is who you can energize to bring out. Most polls
[03:32:03] agree that I am dominating the field among young people, 83 to 6 at this point. And then you have
[03:32:11] communities of color, whether that is the black community in Detroit where I served,
[03:32:15] or across Wayne County. That is communities of color, including the Latino community
[03:32:20] and the Arab and Muslim community. And then you have voters out in the rest of the state,
[03:32:27] folks who are affiliated with Indivisible that's done an amazing job organizing.
[03:32:31] And then of course you have labor, dominant mighty labor in Michigan. We've been proud
[03:32:34] to earn the endorsement of the UAW, endorsements of the AFT and the National Nurses United,
[03:32:39] and the vast majority of labor members in the state of Michigan. And more importantly,
[03:32:46] right, we are having conversation every single day with folks who are asking,
[03:32:50] how do we come together to get money out of politics, put money in your pocket,
[03:32:54] past Medicare for all. As we all know in 2024, unfortunately, Michigan went to Donald Trump,
[03:33:00] and that was because we could not keep-
[03:33:01] You liable six on the tri-train.
[03:33:04] ...undecided or middle voters. I don't know that middle is the right term,
[03:33:11] but I do know that there are a lot of people who have been alienated by politics on both sides of
[03:33:15] the aisle, and we're reaching out to them to actually talk about what it looks like to bring
[03:33:19] people back to the center of our politics rather than be dominated by corporations, which,
[03:33:23] Unfortunately, whether you're talking about Hailey Stevens or Mike Rogers tend to be funded that way.
[03:33:28] You know, the points you made about 2024, I mean, Michigan elected Donald Trump, but also
[03:33:34] sent Alyssa Slotkin to the United States Senate. So there were clearly some split ticket voters.
[03:33:39] I want to go back to the coalition piece here because when you look at like what Trump did in,
[03:33:44] which I have thoughts about, what he did in Michigan, he kind of, he, Detroit turnout was a
[03:33:51] a little bit softer, right?
[03:33:53] Macomb County was more Republican.
[03:33:56] Rule County's definitely maxed out.
[03:33:58] There were working class voters that moved to the right.
[03:34:00] And then the Democratic margins among black men
[03:34:05] and young people were slightly smaller
[03:34:07] than what they needed to be.
[03:34:08] So I've called up a lot of black folks in Michigan today
[03:34:13] that I know I've worked in a lot of campaigns
[03:34:14] in my former life.
[03:34:15] And I've talked to some people that are squirrelly
[03:34:17] in your camp.
[03:34:18] I've talked to some people that said they are not
[03:34:19] in your camp.
[03:34:20] talk to some people that said, look, either one could get elected.
[03:34:24] One of the things that I heard is that some people are had to tend to support
[03:34:28] you because you didn't support Kamala Harris in 2024.
[03:34:32] That's literally not true.
[03:34:37] He was the first Muslim leader in the state.
[03:34:50] Talking shit. What is this? Oh, yeah. No, he's, uh, he's not talking shit. He's talking
[03:35:00] about Abdul. I said holding several positions in Detroit and Wayne County government and
[03:35:03] got 30% of the vote for a run for governor in 2018 saying like he has been vetted.
[03:35:09] Abdul's biggest problem was he was right too early, man. Level six hype train almost done.
[03:35:18] 6 hype train is at 50 seconds remaining at 92 percent.
[03:35:32] What gives?
[03:35:33] Hassan's biggest donor, 30 seconds remaining.
[03:35:42] Will we carry the flame or not?
[03:35:48] Paralyzed, pinned and plugged. What gives? Thank you for the 10.
[03:36:01] May be art with the 50 level 7 hype train is it k-pop one okay fine not yet
[03:36:31] Not yet.
[03:36:39] What gives level 7 hype train almost done?
[03:36:50] You're actually getting a little better at the accident is weird.
[03:36:52] This is how you get better at the accident.
[03:36:54] You just keep doing it.
[03:36:57] adding maroon. Trump's biggest donor. 90% at level seven hype train. Sorry, 90%
[03:37:27] We saw a post level 8 high trade.
[03:37:46] These are all posts on r slash Michigan and people in Michigan were saying they don't recognize their accent. Is it upper peninsula?
[03:38:01] Isn't that what it is?
[03:38:12] No, that's not you per
[03:38:16] No, it's like what a Westcoaster thinks the Midwest sounds like.
[03:38:34] I don't know what it is, but I like it isn't it early for food bro the level of parasocialism
[03:38:38] is unbelievable.
[03:38:39] Like motherfuckers are timing when I eat my lunch, bro.
[03:38:50] Level 8 hype train, 3 minutes remaining, 17%.
[03:38:55] Only 2 levels until we carried the flame.
[03:38:59] What are you trying to do to bring people together?
[03:39:01] Yeah, I'm going to address that straight up.
[03:39:03] I definitely endorsed Vice President Harris in 2024.
[03:39:06] I endorsed her.
[03:39:07] Why are they saying to do?
[03:39:08] is the nominee. Yeah, well, it's a missing disinformation. Look, when the other side has
[03:39:12] $40 million of APAC money to spend, they move a lot of disinformation. And I got the receipts
[03:39:17] to prove it. The truth of the matter is I endorsed her even though I had endorsed uncommitted,
[03:39:22] because at the end of the day, whether you saw this election from the eyes of a child
[03:39:26] in Detroit or the eyes of a child in Gaza, Vice President Harris would have been so much better.
[03:39:30] And I spent a lot of time both on the phone with leaders in the Arab and Muslim community in
[03:39:35] basements and living rooms, having conversations about just how crazy Donald Trump really would
[03:39:40] be in a second term, and having conversations with the Harris campaign about why they needed
[03:39:45] to move on policy regarding the Middle East.
[03:39:48] Unfortunately, the outcome was a catastrophe.
[03:39:50] It was one of the most frustrating three-month periods of my whole life.
[03:39:54] I learned a lot in that period, and I bring that to this work.
[03:39:57] I think anybody who wants to divide us about what happened in the past is missing the opportunity
[03:40:02] to bring us together.
[03:40:03] Chat's so funny.
[03:40:10] Chat getting mad at Abdul saying he was one of the first in the Muslim community to endorse
[03:40:17] Kamala Harris as though that's like a fucking bad thing in Wayne County.
[03:40:21] Dude.
[03:40:25] Are you insane?
[03:40:29] It's a Democratic primary, dude.
[03:40:32] What are you talking about?
[03:40:37] I don't get it.
[03:40:41] It would literally, first of all, it would cook his ass if he hadn't.
[03:40:46] Right now, they'd be blasting that shit nonstop.
[03:40:49] Guys, Cory Bush was presented as a spoiler who hates the Democrats in Missouri 1.
[03:40:59] APAC knows how to fucking, uh, APAC knows how to activate people.
[03:41:13] Please.
[03:41:17] We're talking about someone running in the Democratic party primary with,
[03:41:21] in a, in a state that has a lot of black voters too.
[03:41:29] And not just black voters, but just like there is, as I described to you already, there's
[03:41:38] a little bit of tension there between Dearborn and Detroit.
[03:41:45] And it's an interesting tension because the black voters in general, and just like black
[03:41:53] people in Michigan in general are very supportive of Palestine, but also at the same time they're
[03:41:57] annoyed with what they perceive were the dearborn people, Muslims, Arab voters, voting for Donald
[03:42:07] Trump.
[03:42:10] It's not the biggest issue, but Abdul just neutralizing that immediately and not allowing
[03:42:18] APEC to fucking slam that narrative in is perfect.
[03:42:24] future. And I'll tell you as the first Arab or Muslim leader in Michigan to endorse Vice
[03:42:30] President Harris, I really want our party to recognize that we were wrong on that issue
[03:42:35] and we have an opportunity to get right on principles moving forward.
[03:42:39] I have to say, you know, because again, I talked to a lot of different people today,
[03:42:43] and I think that the piece that I was hearing about the supporter lack thereof for Vice
[03:42:48] President Harris in 2024 comes from a place where people are like, I don't really know
[03:42:53] him that well. I heard a lot of folks say to me that you're very charismatic, you give
[03:43:00] a great speech, but they haven't seen you in their communities, particularly in these
[03:43:06] were some, I talked to some young black leaders and some older black leaders. Now the folks
[03:43:09] that I talked to that have decided that they are in your camp said, look, I'm not going
[03:43:19] to say anything here. I'm sorry. This is literally straightforwardly the most insane. Anything
[03:43:34] that I say going forward will be visibly weaponized against me, so I'm not going to say anything.
[03:43:42] And I don't think this is a fair interpretation of a person who worked in Wayne County, in
[03:43:52] public health, specifically in Detroit.
[03:43:58] I feel like this criticism seems a little bit, um, I don't know.
[03:44:13] I don't know how to say this without coming across as says, I'm just not going to say anything.
[03:44:18] I just don't, I don't know if this criticism is, is valid.
[03:44:22] And it's, it's not one that I have heard from people, but maybe I'm wrong.
[03:44:27] I'm shocked it's coming from Simone who literally work for Bernie Sanders who got this criticism the whole time
[03:44:33] Assange new pharmacist you have not paid attention to Simone's
[03:44:37] Commentary after he stopped working for the Bernie Sanders campaign. I think
[03:44:49] Also, we're at level nine hype train with one minute remaining level nine hype train
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[03:45:03] Ladies and gentlemen, one minute remaining.
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[03:46:10] And the cost was high, He lived for Jesus, I'm afraid to die
[03:46:17] We are Charlie Curd, we carry the flame, We'll fight for the gospel, we'll honor His name
[03:46:24] We are Charlie Curd, His courage our own, Together unbroken, we'll make heaven known
[03:46:33] Husband and father, His family helped me, On both of scripture, on faith without fear
[03:46:40] The world tried to silence, but its voice remains
[03:46:44] And as it echoes in Christ, it's the same
[03:46:49] We are Charlie Kerr, we carry the flame
[03:46:52] We'll fight for the gospel, we'll honor his name
[03:46:56] Oh, we are Charlie Kerr, his courage our own
[03:46:59] Together, I'm broken, we'll make heaven known
[03:47:03] The battle is raging, the darkness will fall
[03:47:06] We rise with a spirit, we answer the call
[03:47:10] The truth is eternal, the cross is our guide
[03:47:13] With God as our captain, we march side by side
[03:47:21] We are shining king, we carry the flame
[03:47:24] We'll fight for your soul, we'll honor his name
[03:47:27] Dead-Eyes, let's breathe
[03:47:29] His courage, our own, together unbroken
[03:47:33] We'll make heaven known
[03:47:35] Oh my god!
[03:47:53] My kids are laughing at me. Why?
[03:47:59] Why? Because you carried the flame? You should educate your little children
[03:48:03] on also carrying the flame, no matter how hard it is. Okay.
[03:48:07] Is this what all music sounds like to you? I'll be honest.
[03:48:12] Yes.
[03:48:14] But I think it's because this is the only music I listen to.
[03:48:17] And I mean that sincerely.
[03:48:19] I have not heard any song, even by accident, outside of my daily
[03:48:26] carrying of the flame.
[03:48:30] In like the last couple of months,
[03:48:33] is that crazy? Yeah, Chatter, you should just own your chosen for making fun of you. Make
[03:48:43] it fun of you like that. It's unbelievable. How dare they?
[03:48:54] They like what you are talking about. So it seems to me that you are cobbling together
[03:48:59] an important coalition, but is this a coalition you think that can make the difference in this
[03:49:05] primary race? That 18, I know you resided at one poll, but there are a lot of people
[03:49:09] that still haven't made up their mind and a month is a very long time.
[03:49:13] A month is a very long time in politics. I will tell you this, I served the city of Detroit as
[03:49:17] health director, rebuilt the health department of the city and then served Wayne County as
[03:49:21] director of health, human and veteran services. In this race, I by far have the dominant service
[03:49:26] record in these communities. Now you always have more work to do to introduce yourself
[03:49:31] and introduce yourself in the new role you hope to hold as US Senator. But I also know that we
[03:49:36] have a message that's real. Right now a lot of the impact in this race is the 40 million dollars
[03:49:42] of outside spending that is being done on behalf of APAC and corporate PACs for my opponent. And
[03:49:47] they are using that to misinform the public both about her record and mine. And that's unfortunate
[03:49:53] because, well, I don't take corporate money. And I don't ask APAC certainly to fund their
[03:49:57] campaign. There's a reason that they are hammering us with attack ads right now. They've called
[03:50:01] me the most dangerous candidate for the U.S.-Israel relationship. And that's because I have the
[03:50:05] audacity to believe that Palestinians have equal rights to peace, dignity, and self-determination.
[03:50:10] And so what a lot of people are seeing is my opponent on their TV screens or attack
[03:50:14] ads against me. But when you look at my record, putting glasses on kids, eliminating medical
[03:50:18] debt, making sure to show up for folks in the moments of their lives when their health
[03:50:22] is at risk. I'll take my record over just about anybody when it comes to serving the
[03:50:26] city and Wayne County. So I look forward to continue to share that over the next month.
[03:50:30] We have 10,000 volunteers knocking doors up and down the city, up and down the county.
[03:50:34] And we're continuing to build that coalition brick by brick, the old fashioned way, having
[03:50:38] real conversations with people instead of asking APAC and corporations to buy ads for
[03:50:42] me.
[03:50:43] APAC came up a lot last night's debate. The other thing that came up that really sparked
[03:50:50] my curiosity because I watched it. I didn't watch it live, but I did watch it this morning.
[03:50:54] Is that Hailey Stevens has been criticizing you for not releasing your personal finance
[03:50:59] disclosure until after the primary? The former strategist in me is like, why not just release
[03:51:05] it and take her talking point away? We absolutely will and we intend to. Sometimes
[03:51:10] finances are complicated and I can only control what I can control and unfortunately when it
[03:51:15] comes to tax documents sometimes they're really complicated to get. We are absolutely going
[03:51:18] to release it before the primary. But this is all a distraction from the fact that her
[03:51:23] campaign finances are a real problem. You think about the money she's taking. Right
[03:51:28] now there are people who are going to bed without electricity for the fifth night in
[03:51:31] a row because of the failure, the debacle that is our utility DTE. She's taking $37,500
[03:51:38] for them. What do you think that buys? You think about the impact when it comes to taking
[03:51:42] corporations money from big tech and whether or not she's going to stand up when it comes
[03:51:47] to AI or someone trying to put a data center in your backyard.
[03:51:50] So the question is not about my personal finances.
[03:51:52] It's about the finances of the corporations and the billionaires.
[03:51:55] She will make rich if in fact she's elected as our next US senator.
[03:51:59] I guess I just want like why not just take her talking point away.
[03:52:03] I mean are the tax are the disposal is going to say that you're that you're rich and if
[03:52:06] you are okay.
[03:52:09] You know I'm a I'm a public servant who's got my career trying to build health departments
[03:52:15] and lead in the bowels of Wayne County and the city of Troy. We are going to certainly
[03:52:21] drop that as soon as we get those those documents in order. So it is not frankly a matter of
[03:52:26] not wanting to it's just a matter of trying to wrangle together documents. All right, send
[03:52:31] them to me when you get them. I do want to make sure though you know I do want to make
[03:52:37] sure though when you you do have her on just make sure you ask her about her and her mother's
[03:52:41] trip to Portugal is an interesting story. Now I want to be clear. I got some other questions
[03:52:46] I wanted to ask you and I think there's questions for both of y'all and at the end of the day
[03:52:50] I really do want to talk to Congresswoman. Oh my god. I'm not gonna say anything. Simone
[03:53:10] Sanders. I wish she was a little bit, I wish she was a little bit nicer.
[03:53:18] But by the way, will the U.S. umpiger carry Laflame? Yes.
[03:53:24] Andrea Laflame expresses interest in running for U.S. Senate in Maine. She was a writing candidate
[03:53:29] in the Democratic primary. Andrea Laflame.
[03:53:35] game. She got 800 right in votes. This is the Israel, not Israel. Sorry. I apologize.
[03:53:45] This is the she's anti she's anti genocide. I don't know if she's anti honest, but this
[03:53:51] What is the blue sky pick?
[03:54:05] Which respect?
[03:54:14] Even blue sky isn't backing her.
[03:54:16] Wait, what blue sky turned on?
[03:54:17] Andrea Laflame.
[03:54:21] Blue sky turned on the flame. They didn't want to carry the flame.
[03:54:28] What the fuck?
[03:54:31] That's confusing. They were. This was their writing candidacy.
[03:54:45] The dictator is one. I heard he also got injured.
[03:54:48] Michael Fusco art. Thank you for the 111 give the subs Jesus Christ
[03:55:10] What is this do you see this hate tweet Claire is awesome super interesting
[03:55:18] about your your platform is you call for de-escalating the US Cold War posture
[03:55:24] towards China and also reducing US military bases and you put my queen well
[03:55:30] both of them are my queens I love both of them they're great
[03:55:37] all of that in the context of climate change which is so important so I guess
[03:55:42] I wanted to ask you what that means in practice especially as you see like
[03:55:46] every, you know, Pentagon paper written about how like the coming war with China is like the next most important thing to happen.
[03:55:56] I think as back to what I was saying before, you know, I think there are talking heads and put goes to have a real vested interest in, you know, trying to film it a cold war, maybe even a hot war.
[03:56:06] I don't think that the working class wins in either scenario.
[03:56:10] We have to really focus on the things that are actually
[03:56:14] threats to humankind right now, climate change,
[03:56:16] the possibility of future pandemics,
[03:56:18] and what that will require is real,
[03:56:20] true global cooperation and solidarity,
[03:56:23] and being a good neighbor.
[03:56:24] The United States should be a good neighbor
[03:56:26] to the rest of the world.
[03:56:27] We have, again, had this long history of extraction
[03:56:30] and violence, colonialism, and we can turn a page on that.
[03:56:34] We can draw down our military presence around the world.
[03:56:38] We can show that we want to be a good neighbor.
[03:56:41] And in doing so, not only are we advancing,
[03:56:43] we're moving the ball on climate change,
[03:56:45] we're building relationships that I think will help,
[03:56:49] like really build democracy around the world,
[03:56:53] but we'll also, we bring the resources back
[03:56:54] to our communities that we so desperately need.
[03:56:57] We'd need hospitals and education,
[03:56:59] we need good union jobs, we need to be building,
[03:57:03] climate resiliency here in the United States, all of that takes money.
[03:57:07] And right now, we're just pouring it into bases around the world
[03:57:10] that have no no purpose anymore.
[03:57:13] And I. Gosh, she's so awesome.
[03:57:16] I can't believe it.
[03:57:20] Laflame is a two state solution.
[03:57:22] Stop the genocide.
[03:57:23] I have a support of peaceful Israel live.
[03:57:28] Yeah.
[03:57:33] When several people have known it to me, the campaign manager in the scandal played Cal
[03:57:38] Cunningham campaign where Dems lost a winnable race in North Carolina was immediately elevated
[03:57:41] to the DSCC and is now running it.
[03:57:44] Oh my God.
[03:57:47] I think the war in Iran, as fighting flares up again for a second night, struck targets
[03:58:03] inside Iran, which responded with attacks on US sites in the Gulf region.
[03:58:08] The president returned overnight from the NATO summit in Turkey, where he lobbed insults
[03:58:12] and threats at the Iranians and said the ceasefire is over.
[03:58:17] is at the White House with
[03:58:18] more. We joke. Good morning.
[03:58:20] Good morning, Adriana. Good
[03:58:21] morning to everybody. President
[03:58:22] Trump is calling the latest U.
[03:58:24] S strikes retribution for recent
[03:58:26] Iranian aggression in the
[03:58:27] state of Hormuz, a flashpoint
[03:58:29] that could send gas prices
[03:58:31] rising again. Trump also warned
[03:58:33] if Iran targets more commercial
[03:58:35] ships, it will quote get much
[03:58:37] worse. We just said it very
[03:58:39] hard. And I say we hit up 20 to
[03:58:42] one every time they hit us, we
[03:58:44] could hit up 20. President
[03:58:46] Trump unleashed anger and new attacks on Iran after declaring Wednesday an end to the fragile
[03:58:52] ceasefire and the framework meant to work out a permanent peace agreement. Speaking on the
[03:58:57] way back from the NATO summit in Turkey, Trump said the Iranians now want to get back to talking
[03:59:03] once again. That's what he says every time. I cannot believe we're still back to square
[03:59:13] one on this shit dude the tit for tat the will the war continue the war is
[03:59:18] gonna end Iranians are begging me to stop I cannot believe it like there
[03:59:25] there was just like a brief moment like a like a two week long moment we're like
[03:59:30] oh my god maybe something different can happen
[03:59:43] It's been three hours since projectiles targeted two coastal provinces in Iran and it's still
[03:59:50] unclear who actually conducted the attack's flight data.
[03:59:53] Certainly suggests at least American involvement, but US officials have denied carrying out
[03:59:56] the strikes.
[03:59:57] There are lots of rumors circulating, but I'm waiting for either a preliminary Iranian
[04:00:00] investigation or for a party to claim responsibility.
[04:00:03] The very unusual statement from US officials in the limited scale of the strikes indicates
[04:00:06] to me that it's very likely a Gulf state or multiple, especially considering what we know
[04:00:10] about their involvement in the 40-day war. Oh my god, they're going to sick the GCC on Iran,
[04:00:16] so that Iran just fucking deploys all of their munitions on the GCC instead of Israel. And
[04:00:21] the dumb fucks over at the Gulf states are stupid enough to do that. That's crazy.
[04:00:27] Yeah. Back to military pressure in an attempt to get concessions out of Iran, which literally
[04:00:41] failed. You look wrong. You're feeling okay. I'm feeling great.
[04:00:46] They want to make a deal so bad, I just don't know if they're worthy of making a deal, I
[04:00:55] don't know if they're going to honor the deal.
[04:00:58] That deal now appearing as elusive as ever as the U.S. launched a second night of strikes
[04:01:03] on Iran, hitting at least 90 Iranian military targets after retaliating with more than 80
[04:01:10] strikes Tuesday following Iranian attacks on commercial ships in the Strait of Hormuz
[04:01:15] earlier this week. Iran responded by hitting U.S. military targets in Bahrain and Kuwait
[04:01:23] and threatened to completely close the strait. Vice President J.D. Vance, who has been deeply
[04:01:28] involved in talks with the Iranians, vowed retaliation should that happen.
[04:01:33] If they try to close it down, there's going to be a response for the American military.
[04:01:38] It's that simple.
[04:01:39] But Iran is standing firm.
[04:01:42] The Speaker of Parliament posted on X,
[04:01:44] the era of bullying and extortion is over.
[04:01:47] We don't fold.
[04:01:48] Before returning to the US,
[04:01:50] Trump tried to cool concerns of a prolonged war
[04:01:53] after oil prices spiked and stocks tumbled.
[04:01:57] I think anything that happens
[04:01:59] is gonna be over very quickly.
[04:02:00] And we're all late.
[04:02:04] Dude, I can't believe how easy it is
[04:02:07] to just manipulate the stock market
[04:02:09] If you're the motherfucking president of the United States,
[04:02:14] it's crazy.
[04:02:16] Like people go to school for this shit, man.
[04:02:19] How is this possible?
[04:02:21] Imagine being a fucking commodity trader who spent their entire lives.
[04:02:26] Okay.
[04:02:26] Trying to game this shit out.
[04:02:29] And then you got a president who's like war is back on and then boom,
[04:02:32] all of a sudden prices go up only waiting for the next moment for the
[04:02:37] same president to turn around and be like, war is actually gonna end any moment now.
[04:02:43] Like, why learn anything?
[04:02:49] It doesn't make any sense. These people have the, these people have Goldfish memory, bro.
[04:02:56] Yeah, Israel's various student knowing the exact moment to play with Trump's psychology.
[04:03:00] New Israel shared new intelligence with the US that it said it indicated a fresh Iranian plan
[04:03:04] to kill President Trump.
[04:03:05] People familiar with the matter said, Iran for years have vowed openly to retaliate against
[04:03:09] Trump with the assassination of Qasem Soleimani.
[04:03:11] Trump on Wednesday alluded to the threats to his life, was speaking to reporters in Ankara,
[04:03:15] Turkey.
[04:03:16] They want to take out the US leader, me, he said.
[04:03:18] I'm on every list I saw this morning.
[04:03:20] I'm on every single one of their lists.
[04:03:24] Yeah, he didn't even take the cut the cuttery jet.
[04:03:37] Which he sent back to, um, he sent back the, the gifted jet to the UK actually he's taking
[04:03:45] the regular Air Force one.
[04:03:48] Interesting.
[04:03:50] interesting. I thought you trusted them. What is this? Did you see this? It's
[04:04:03] definitely Trump or Pete. A US official said the current escalation could last a
[04:04:10] day or two a week or a month depending on whether Iran continues attacking ships
[04:04:14] in the shade of Hormones. We're gonna slap them a bit so they understand we're
[04:04:16] We're not fucking around.
[04:04:17] That's Trump.
[04:04:18] That's just Trump.
[04:04:19] A US official is just Trump.
[04:04:22] That's Donald Trump.
[04:04:23] Why won't you just say it's Donald Trump?
[04:04:26] Who else talks like that, man?
[04:04:46] It's my understanding that the Qatari jet wasn't outfitted with an ECM and anti-missiles
[04:04:54] type shit.
[04:04:55] Yes, your understanding is correct.
[04:04:57] You want to know why?
[04:05:00] The runway to build Air Force One is infinitely longer than the amount of time it took to
[04:05:10] retrofit the Katari jet and turn it into Air Force One, which means that they didn't spend
[04:05:18] a decade of development to ensure that it had the anti-missile systems.
[04:05:26] And not only that, but also like the refueling capabilities.
[04:05:31] It's not even that they cut corners, guys, they just changed the paint and they looked
[04:05:35] for bugs.
[04:05:36] That's it.
[04:05:37] That's it.
[04:05:38] Which, if you're not the biggest fan of Trump, you're probably like, who gives a shit, right?
[04:05:44] Well, clearly, at least this dumbass was finally smart enough to recognize that he would be
[04:05:50] in great danger if he continued flying around with that plane that he demanded, that he
[04:05:56] demanded he receive in like a matter of months.
[04:06:00] For the record, I'm telling you right now, this is one area where I have at least a little
[04:06:04] bit of knowledge on, okay?
[04:06:07] It takes a fucking decade to build these goddamn planes.
[04:06:10] There's so much, there's so much important shit in these planes.
[04:06:14] Like there's no, you can't just like retrofit a random civilian plane in a matter of months.
[04:06:23] All they did was check it for bugs and change the paint.
[04:06:27] That's it.
[04:06:28] Yeah, you can't just hang ECM in a refueling nozzle on a civilian plane.
[04:06:54] I could but I'm different.
[04:06:55] Well, I guess you're not bowing.
[04:06:59] Yeah, same Israeli intelligence convinced Trump that Iran didn't have the stones to
[04:07:06] shut down the Hormuz that assassinating Hominé would lead to civil war and regime change.
[04:07:11] Has now informed the president that Iran wanted to assassinate him.
[04:07:15] Do I think that's the main reason as to why Donald Trump is behaving this way?
[04:07:19] No.
[04:07:20] I think Trita Parsi is maybe a little wrong.
[04:07:25] I mean, I just don't agree with Trudeau Parsi's assessment.
[04:07:28] He thinks that Israel is applying pressure in a moment where Trump is the weakest.
[04:07:40] And that's the reason why Trump is reacting this way, this aggressively.
[04:07:57] What is this?
[04:07:58] I think he got repossessed.
[04:08:00] What?
[04:08:01] What got repowed?
[04:08:02] No, the Qatari jet did not get repowed.
[04:08:04] He just can't fly with it because he's scared.
[04:08:16] If Qatar, imagine Qatar being like, Hey, we need to play him back.
[04:08:19] You fucking piece of shit.
[04:08:25] Scared of what?
[04:08:26] Um, assassination.
[04:08:30] I'm willing to bet Israel told Trump.
[04:08:34] I'm willing to bet Israel told Donald Trump that Iran was going to hit their plane.
[04:08:41] Iran was going to hit Air Force One.
[04:08:51] Anyway, there has to be an explanation for why Trump got so angry yesterday. It wasn't
[04:09:05] a few tankers getting shot. Their speculation, America's were killed or a carrier group ship
[04:09:10] truck. Trump deploying the Islamic Japan decoy, the fact that there were 110 anti ship missiles
[04:09:15] shot. I don't think that he's smart enough to say Islamic Republic of Japan, when, when
[04:09:27] Explaining that a hundred and ten anti-ship missiles were struck, but I do agree with the first part of that.
[04:09:45] I will admit though,
[04:09:49] It's quite difficult to figure out what the fuck Trump is saying and doing.
[04:09:53] You know, it's it's not it's virtually impossible to comprehend why he's saying certain things
[04:10:06] and why he's doing certain things.
[04:10:07] I don't think Trump knows why he says in those certain shit.
[04:10:23] A production facility is an interesting way to put it in the U.S. There are over a dozen
[04:10:32] different production facilities for patriot interceptors alone, each producing only a
[04:10:35] subset of components or handling vital assembly with hundreds of suppliers involved in the
[04:10:39] production chain.
[04:10:42] This is the Trump patriot plan for Ukraine's defences, as in allowing Ukraine to build
[04:10:52] Patriot missile systems on Ukrainian soil. Okay. A major component of a PAK-3 MSE interceptors
[04:11:03] are radar seeker, guidance electronics, altitude control section, solid rocket motor, lethality
[04:11:08] enhancer, fragmentation ring, airframe control surfaces, launch canister, and missile uplink.
[04:11:13] It's almost going to have to make each of those things. If it's going to be Ukraine,
[04:11:17] and if they want to bypass the glacial rate of intercept to production elsewhere,
[04:11:20] They'll need production lines for all of them and those don't exist right now.
[04:11:24] They would never dream of building one giant facility to handle all this because it would
[04:11:28] be immediately destroyed. Yeah. It's hard to convey how difficult it would be to spin up
[04:11:33] full production of Patriot interceptors. So here are some concrete examples. It took seven years
[04:11:38] for Poland to conduct or to construct a production facility responsible for making only altitude
[04:11:43] control motors for the PAC-3 MSC. It took three years just to expand the final assembly facility
[04:11:49] in Camden, even though that facility already existed and was actively in use.
[04:11:54] Boeing's secret production line expansion in Huntsville is also projected to complete
[04:11:58] its expansion after three years.
[04:12:01] Japan's PAC-3 facility only took two, but it produces 20 interceptors a year and relies
[04:12:06] heavily on important components from the U.S.
[04:12:10] Not only is it going to take a tremendous amount of time, there is also an additional,
[04:12:16] There's also going to be an additional amount of time to train the workers on the facility
[04:12:21] so they can actually build these components.
[04:12:23] And then also on top of that, the entire time you're building these facilities, you're
[04:12:28] going to have to be evading Russian munitions, Russian ballistic munitions.
[04:12:34] You're going to have to evade Russian drone strikes.
[04:12:38] I don't know how they're going to get away with this.
[04:12:41] I don't know what year the facility will finally, uh, uh, be fully in production.
[04:12:49] I just don't know what the fuck they're thinking.
[04:12:52] Uh, never bet against Ukraine fair.
[04:12:55] I just don't think that this is, uh, the same as being able to, uh, create.
[04:13:03] A robust drone building, like a decentralized and fairly robust drone
[04:13:08] building system inside of Ukraine, because building drones inside of your
[04:13:13] kitchen is very different than building Patriot missiles in a factory.
[04:13:18] The components are far more complex. The parts that you need, and the assembly,
[04:13:25] is a far more complex process than the assembly of a drone, which in many
[04:13:30] circumstances the difference between a commercial drone and for civilian usage
[04:13:36] in a commercial drone for military usage is nothing, it's just one extra component that
[04:13:42] you can buy off the fucking TikTok shop that you assemble by hand that allows the drone
[04:13:48] to carry munitions, to carry grenades. So very different process here than these complex
[04:13:56] missile systems. So yeah. So we'll who knows. This is one of the
[04:14:18] dumbest things I've seen this admin do. There will be no
[04:14:20] Patriot missile production in Ukraine. This is a pipe dream.
[04:14:22] Ukraine has been losing interceptor stores like crazy
[04:14:24] to.
[04:14:25] Yeah, Trump's Patriot Plan will do little to fix Ukraine's urgent air defense problems
[04:14:30] because it won't take many months for Ukraine to get a production facility built and that
[04:14:33] facility would quickly become a major Russian target.
[04:14:38] Yep.
[04:14:41] Unless Ukraine takes a page out of the North Korean, Iranian, and Hezbollah and Hamas books
[04:14:50] and straight up builds an underground facility, deep underground, which in the words of Donald
[04:14:56] Trump, Ukraine is very flat. A bullet travels for miles before it hits the ground. Ukraine,
[04:15:05] very flat. So that doesn't leave a lot of room for an underground facility, ironically
[04:15:12] enough. And then also on top of that, you know, building a massive underground facility
[04:15:22] without Russia bombing you, that's also going to be difficult too. So I don't know how they're
[04:15:26] going to get away with that, but maybe, but in the absence of a major underground,
[04:15:33] in the absence of a major underground facility, I don't think they will be able to successfully
[04:15:38] ramp up production for any missiles. New NATO spy agency, DUP, shows how much
[04:15:43] Ukraine war combined with Biden, Trump, aggressive anti-China policy has pushed
[04:15:46] Russia and China together in critical military development, missile defense,
[04:15:49] counter-starlink areas they'd never have cooperated on otherwise. Yeah. And the same
[04:15:56] goes for Russian targets for Iran. Like America, the American sanctions regime
[04:16:02] has diminished the confidence that people have in the dollar as the as the
[04:16:07] global reserve currency. The American war, the American-Israeli war against Iran is undermining
[04:16:14] the petrodollar and the long-standing allegiances that America has developed over numerous decades
[04:16:22] with the Gulf States, which are far more important as strategic allies of the United States of
[04:16:26] America than Israel ever could be. And on top of that, there is a lot more information
[04:16:33] sharing within the acts of resistance for a call at that between china
[04:16:37] russia and iran
[04:16:40] that also has uh... greatly
[04:16:42] improved iranian targeting capabilities
[04:16:46] and is unironically also furthering uh... that that fissure between the
[04:16:51] golf states
[04:16:52] and the americans
[04:16:55] it's a own goal
[04:17:01] It's not dissimilar to the mentality that if you sanction everybody,
[04:17:06] you're just basically sanctioning yourself.
[04:17:09] If you constantly wage war on all fronts,
[04:17:12] because like a lot of people I've seen on the timeline celebrate,
[04:17:16] the thing, it was a Washington Post report that came out that,
[04:17:19] that talked about how like America has obviously been sanctioning or,
[04:17:25] offering far better targeting capabilities to the Ukrainians so they can just
[04:17:30] like pinpoint with pinpoint accuracy strike critical infrastructure, the oil and gas facilities
[04:17:36] in Russia. And it is genuinely, it is genuinely put the Russian economy in a blender, which
[04:17:45] is, you know, old school CIA shit. America used to do that all the fucking time. Fine.
[04:17:54] But that has also created this trade-off where Russia in the past might have been less inclined
[04:18:06] to give targets to Iran, especially the type of intelligence that they're sharing with
[04:18:14] Iran, that allows Iran to, ironically enough, deliver devastating blows to the American
[04:18:20] forces with pinpoint accuracy, that's the trade-off.
[04:18:31] America is forcing a somewhat less reliable part of this supposed resistance like Russia
[04:18:39] to either shit or get off the pot.
[04:18:43] They have said that the Russian economy will collapse any day now for like four years.
[04:18:46] Why is it that this time we do believe them?
[04:18:49] Up until recently, they never hit so many refineries and Russian tankers.
[04:18:54] That's the major difference here.
[04:18:57] And Russia obviously heavily relies on its refineries to keep its economy afloat.
[04:19:04] That's a huge part of the reason.
[04:19:06] I'm not saying that the Russian economy is going to fall apart or the Russian economy
[04:19:13] is falling apart any day now.
[04:19:15] I'm just saying that they're experiencing significant setbacks in their oil and gas production
[04:19:23] and also in their exports.
[04:19:28] This has been a far more effective tool in terms of crippling the Russian economy than
[04:19:32] the sanctions ever could because the reality of the matter is at the end of the day, oil
[04:19:39] and gas is a hard commodity that has inelastic demand. It's a global commodity. And therefore,
[04:19:48] especially oil, and therefore, people will get it if it's out there. We know that, right?
[04:19:56] I don't think people care that much about whether it's Russian oil or not when push comes to shove.
[04:20:03] So the most effective way to quote unquote sanction Russia would be to destroy its refining capabilities
[04:20:13] That's it
[04:20:14] That's why it's a red line that most people usually don't cross especially because
[04:20:21] especially because
[04:20:23] When you do cross that red line you actually end up harming the the global market
[04:20:29] And in the absence of alternatives, in the absence of alternatives that can keep up with
[04:20:37] the additional demand with extra supply, you could potentially be staring down the barrel
[04:20:45] of complete economic collapse.
[04:20:48] That's what we're looking at right now.
[04:20:49] Donald Trump is lighting the entire world on fire, okay?
[04:20:56] Donald Trump is lighting the entire world on fire, because while Ukraine has been able
[04:21:01] to gain tremendous leverage over Russia, and this is true, they have gained a lot of leverage
[04:21:04] over Russia by striking its critical infrastructure, striking its oil and gas facilities, striking
[04:21:11] its tankers with pinpoint accuracy, with American intelligence.
[04:21:17] Every tanker that blows up, or every facility that blows up, means that there is more volatility
[04:21:23] in the energy markets. And there is no other area of respite because the Strait of Hormuz is closed.
[04:21:36] It's this very weird, it's not even a balancing act at this point. They're burning the candle on
[04:21:42] both ends pretty much. That's precisely the reason why Donald Trump actually released some of the
[04:21:47] sanctions on Russian oil in the beginning of the Iran war, right? There's a reason.
[04:21:50] it. And then even went so far as to release the sanctions on Iranian oil, which they put
[04:21:57] back on as of two days ago.
[04:22:04] What do you think of Mershamer's concern that escalating towards economic collapse will
[04:22:07] lead Russia to escalate either against the Eastern NATO nation or even potentially use
[04:22:11] nukes in Ukraine? I don't know. I've been hearing this from a lot of the, I don't want
[04:22:18] say pro-Russia, but I've been hearing warnings from a lot of thinkers and a lot of writers
[04:22:27] that most people would call pro-Russia. I wouldn't call them that. And I think they
[04:22:36] say that whenever the situation in Russia is really fucked up. That's usually when
[04:22:46] you start hearing from the Glendys and verse, yes, about how Russia's going to do something
[04:22:52] crazy now. And they might, they might, they actually might, because the thing is, you
[04:23:00] know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? Invading Ukraine militarily with boots on
[04:23:09] ground warfare, invading Ukraine all the way into Kiev. Okay, without actually securing
[04:23:18] air superiority over a country, over a smaller country that you thought you could easily take over
[04:23:26] militarily. That's crazy. It's crazy to have a fucking five-year special military operation.
[04:23:34] That's what's crazy. So who knows? Yes, I know sacks and Mersheimer are saying that Russia is
[04:23:52] preparing to hit you with conventional weapons because Russia thinks no way you crank and hit
[04:23:57] them the way they are without NATO help. I, I don't know. I mean, that's the, that's
[04:24:08] the active, okay, by the way, all of that speculation, once again, all of that speculation
[04:24:17] once again proves what I've been saying. And I think it shows that Ukraine has gained
[04:24:22] a lot of leverage. So, maybe now is the time to get to the fucking table. Maybe now is
[04:24:31] the time where sufficient leverage has been maintained, and now, hopefully, diplomacy
[04:24:39] can happen. Because last time, Russia had leverage. Ukraine did not. And that's precisely
[04:24:51] reason why Vladimir Putin played Trump like a fucking fiddle and got Trump to undermine Zelensky on
[04:24:58] the global stage, got America to stop information sharing with the Ukrainians for an extended
[04:25:05] period of time, which Russia dangled that as a condition to go to the ceasefire table.
[04:25:12] But of course, the Americans and the Ukrainians at the time kept saying,
[04:25:15] we only want a limited 30-day ceasefire. But because Russia had all the leverage at that point,
[04:25:21] they didn't want to abide by a 30-day ceasefire, or they said we want a long,
[04:25:26] a complete ceasefire. We don't want a 30-day ceasefire where you can re-up and rearm and continue this
[04:25:32] battle, right? Russia also had so much leverage at that point. Russia had so much leverage at
[04:25:43] at that point that they thought that they could make even more territorial gains, okay?
[04:25:50] They could make even more territorial gains if they were to undermine the security relationship
[04:25:57] between Ukraine and the United States of America, which worked, which worked, okay?
[04:26:06] Trump did that shit.
[04:26:08] Trump straight up was like, oh, Vladimir Putin loves me.
[04:26:12] He respects me. He's my best friend. We have phone sex. I'm going to undermine Zelensky.
[04:26:21] I'm going to publicly humiliate him. I'm going to tell the world that Zelensky is the one
[04:26:26] who's undermining the negotiations. It was actually Trump and Vladimir Putin, okay?
[04:26:35] up. And it seemed at the time, because of the leverage that Russia had, or at least they
[04:26:42] perceived they had, that they would continue pushing, that they didn't want a real ceasefire.
[04:26:49] Okay. That was stupid. That was stupid. That was very stupid of Vladimir Putin to not take all
[04:27:00] the leverage it had at that moment. If we're thinking about this from the perspective of Putin,
[04:27:03] like what's the best way to try to find a manageable conclusion to this, demands of
[04:27:10] additional territorial acquisition that you have not annexed militarily, fucking ridiculous.
[04:27:16] Demands that Ukraine can have a standing military, fucking ridiculous. Okay? If he had dropped
[04:27:23] those two things, I suspect that, you know, they could come to some kind of reasonable
[04:27:29] conclusion, but they didn't do that. And the reason why they didn't do that is because
[04:27:33] they wanted to continue fighting, because they thought that they could make additional
[04:27:38] territorial gains. So the next time there's a conversation about a ceasefire, Russia could
[04:27:44] then turn around and say, well, we won those territories. Those territories are also going
[04:27:50] to be annexed. Okay? It was dumb. It was dumb as fuck. And now he's suffering the consequences.
[04:28:03] okay
[04:28:04] he's he's eating dick and balls right now
[04:28:07] let's be real
[04:28:10] ukraine is
[04:28:12] ukraine by way of drone warfare through autonomous
[04:28:15] uh... through autonomous units
[04:28:18] has not necessarily been able to like regain any of the lost territory but
[04:28:22] they've done
[04:28:23] a pretty solid job of cutting russian positions off of supply chains
[04:28:28] okay
[04:28:30] and then
[04:28:31] on top of that
[04:28:33] they've actually done a pretty good job of
[04:28:37] uh... they've done a pretty good job of of destroying well not destroying but like
[04:28:41] at least impeding
[04:28:42] russian
[04:28:43] uh... oil and gas
[04:28:46] uh... russian uh... the the russian oil and gas
[04:28:49] uh... industry
[04:28:52] you could even call it a kinetic oil sanction
[04:28:54] because oil sanctions were obviously
[04:28:56] fucking ineffective
[04:28:58] right it just made it more costly for europe but it's still reached europe
[04:29:02] Now it can't reach Europe because it's getting blown up and now Russia's not making money.
[04:29:10] Is he reading his script? No, I'm not reading a script. I'm reading chat.
[04:29:16] Um, while I'm telling you what my opinion is off the top dome. Um, so yeah, I,
[04:29:26] Why can't you make the dumb-ass connection that we're making the rest of the world depend on our oil?
[04:29:33] So we have the petrodollar in place. I mean, I have said that
[04:29:37] That's my
[04:29:40] That's that's my assessment, but it's just there's no
[04:29:46] I've said that over and over again as part of the reason why we took over the the Venezuelan
[04:29:50] the the Venezuelan oil refineries we took over Venezuela the largest known
[04:29:56] natural reserves it's a different type of oil but it doesn't matter yes here's
[04:30:08] the thing though
[04:30:11] will we be able to
[04:30:15] what the fuck
[04:30:20] I'm sorry.
[04:30:42] Bullshit.
[04:30:43] That's a crazy stray.
[04:31:03] That's crazy.
[04:31:04] Yeah, let's be real.
[04:31:08] It's kind of funny that the majority of people on this thumbnail, the majority of people
[04:31:13] on this thumbnail are literally woke. Or at least woke adjacent.
[04:31:36] Yeah, was that, was that good? Did I, did I give you guys a decent analysis on the Ukraine
[04:31:51] stuff? Now, here's what the, here's the last thing I'll say. Anytime there's conversation
[04:32:00] about Russia potentially expanding on the conflict and maybe even striking the European
[04:32:07] Union, you know, trying to threaten, trying to see if Article 5 will be triggered, like
[04:32:16] testing the boundaries of what that NATO alliance actually looks like.
[04:32:20] Anytime Russia does that, okay, understand that Russia's doing that because they're
[04:32:27] losing the battle. Okay. They're not having a good time. If they were, they would just
[04:32:34] focus their efforts on Ukraine, right? But it's clear that the Ereshniks, hitting civilian
[04:32:41] territory, all that stuff is not enough. All right. So they're obviously not having a good
[04:32:56] time currently. It's obvious that Ukraine has also been able to strike the Crimean territories
[04:33:04] fairly well as well. Yeah, Crimean Peninsula is having a real hard time with little fuel and
[04:33:08] major power outage. The mass exodus of Russians there would hurt Putin big time. Exactly. I
[04:33:14] forgot to even mention the Crimea side of this. So they're not having a good time. They're having
[04:33:20] a very bad time, simply put. This is the opportunity that Ukraine has to actually draw Russia to a
[04:33:31] permanent ceasefire. I made this, I listen, people will get mad at me as they did way back during
[04:33:41] the Antalya summit or the summit that took place in Turkey where I said Ukraine, you have maximum
[04:33:47] leverage that you will never have going forward. Please use it. And everyone at the time said
[04:33:55] that I was in the pocket of Vladimir Putin and they said that I was wrong. They said Ukraine is
[04:34:02] going to purge the Russian orcs from their territorial boundaries down to the last Russian.
[04:34:07] please do not repeat this mistake. You have successfully, you have successfully
[04:34:17] attritted the Russian economy. If they'd listened to you, they wouldn't have had
[04:34:24] even more leverage now, though. More leverage? Are you fucking insane? What
[04:34:30] leverage are we talking about? In comparison to back then, where Russia had
[04:34:35] not hardened their defenses and basically de facto annexed 25% or 18% of the country.
[04:34:47] So many people died. Entire cities reduced the rubble. What are we talking about? They don't
[04:34:54] have more leverage now. That's crazy. They have more leverage in comparison to what they had
[04:35:02] had, you know, six months ago, they have more leverage in comparison to six months ago. They
[04:35:15] don't have leverage in comparison to six months in after the Russian invasion. That's when
[04:35:22] they had far, that's when they had far more leverage and they could have actually nipped
[04:35:28] this in the bud. Now, that is, of course, if Russia was willing to do that, okay? At the
[04:35:35] time, and perhaps Russia was not willing to do that back then. Who knows? I'm not, you
[04:35:39] know, clearly I've made wrong predictions on this Russia stuff. I'm simply saying, what
[04:35:47] I say all the time, give peace a try. Okay? Give peace a shot. There is no harm in this.
[04:35:58] All wars end with treaties, okay?
[04:36:02] That's how wars end.
[04:36:05] Do it now.
[04:36:09] Do it now when you have more leverage.
[04:36:12] Okay?
[04:36:14] I, this is what I have to say.
[04:36:17] Not war, not war, not war.
[04:36:20] Just peace, just peace, just peace.
[04:36:25] Give peace a try, capitulate to Russian imperialism. Oh my god. It's happening again. Oh my god. It's happening again. I'm gonna die.
[04:36:38] It's happening again. This is literally what everyone, this is what the people said during the Turkey summit after Ukraine was able to push back.
[04:36:53] After Ukraine was able to push back successfully the Russian forces out of their capital
[04:37:02] The situation has gotten far worse since then please
[04:37:10] Oh
[04:37:13] You assume Vladiput would go for peace right now, I do generally agree with your analysis so far, but Putin is not so but so
[04:37:19] Yeah, for Russia, what?
[04:37:23] Worse for Russia?
[04:37:29] You think the situation right now is worse for Russia than it is for Ukraine?
[04:37:34] Dog, there's no world where 18% of Ukrainian territory has been taken over and defecto annexed by Russia
[04:37:42] that is a better position for Ukraine as opposed to Russia.
[04:37:45] Russia. I don't, there's no way this guy is Ukrainian, right? There's just no fucking
[04:37:54] shot that this person is Ukrainian because now the majority of Ukrainians are in favor
[04:37:59] of, of seeding territory, uh, in exchange for a permanent cessation of hostilities.
[04:38:04] There's already the, the, the manpower problem hasn't gone away for Ukraine. Ukraine has
[04:38:09] actually gotten a little bit of a respite from the manpower problem by fucking utilizing
[04:38:13] autonomous warfare tools. However, it's not like those issues have gone away.
[04:38:22] Those issues still very much exist.
[04:38:43] I need you to know that the commie leader of my country had the exact same take as the
[04:38:53] exact same time and is still asked about when convenient.
[04:39:12] the record, I've also made this argument before. I've warned about this. If you are Ukrainian
[04:39:26] living in Europe or living in America, you don't want what comes next because there's
[04:39:36] going to have to be a solution of the manpower problem if the war continues.
[04:39:41] Okay? And the only way to make up for that manpower is not going to be
[04:39:47] Colombian mercenaries, right? Some of which are now being pulled elsewhere, the Gulf specifically.
[04:39:57] There are still plenty of them that are operating in Ukraine as well.
[04:40:01] It's not going to be the woman draft either. It's going to be expulsion. It's going to be
[04:40:05] deportations to Ukraine.
[04:40:09] Like think about that, America revoking the temporary protected status of Ukrainian men
[04:40:17] and then shipping their asses back to Kyiv so they can go and join the fucking frontlines
[04:40:25] with no guarantee of a successful outcome.
[04:40:30] going to get to that point, they're going to stop issuing asylum to Ukrainian men. I think
[04:40:37] the EU has already talked about this. Now, this sounds like a Russia Today take. Okay. Okay.
[04:40:48] If you say so.
[04:40:54] Here's the problem.
[04:40:55] Here's the problem. What happens? How do you how do you deal with the manpower problem?
[04:41:07] It's not like the Ukrainian government isn't doing its very best to literally pick up as
[04:41:17] many draft dodgers as possible and send them to the frontline. Currently they're doing that right
[04:41:23] right now. They're doing that right now as we speak. You'll see six months from now where
[04:41:33] we're at. EU Commission proposes excluding fighting
[04:41:38] age men from Ukraine refugee scheme. The limitation wouldn't apply to those already under protection.
[04:41:43] And then it will.
[04:41:50] This is how it begins.
[04:41:54] But I guess this is Russia today, you know, the, and the brilliant minds behind Politico.
[04:42:09] Autonomous systems can't solve manpower.
[04:42:11] No, autonomous systems at the end of the day still run into the same fucking problem of
[04:42:16] air campaigns, okay?
[04:42:25] Ukrainian resistance to forced mobilization has hit a new level in Lviv.
[04:42:28] People overturned a conscription bus and smashed a piece according to local media.
[04:42:32] Yeah, I'm telling you, it's the more the public sentiment against the continuation of the
[04:42:40] war grows sour. The more aggressive the Ukrainian government has to get to force people into
[04:42:48] the front lines. Like, it's just not, this is the ultimate problem. This is the ultimate
[04:42:59] problem you have to solve for, which is manpower.
[04:43:20] Just say Ukraine is the responsible party, therefore they have to make the hard decisions.
[04:43:24] What do you mean?
[04:43:25] As in like they have to you know forcibly conscript people yes, that's true
[04:43:39] They have to what are they supposed to do if the war is continuing though if they are continuing to wage this war they need manpower
[04:44:01] power.
[04:44:02] Dude, the suit works. I got told by a friend that their
[04:44:09] curcified conservative mom is always up to date on everything related to you, even keeping
[04:44:12] up with your tweets and that's the suit she wants to look away, but handsome man in a suit
[04:44:17] draws her back in. Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
[04:44:26] Genuinely asking, why okay for Ukraine to give up land and take treaty, but not Palestinian
[04:44:29] take treaty with Israel? What treaty? What fucking treaty? Dude, what are you talking
[04:44:36] about? Israelis want to literally just wipe every fucking Palestinian off their ancestral
[04:44:47] homelands. Okay? There is no, there is no treaty. There is no real two-state solution,
[04:44:58] for example. They already control it. They already have complete control in ways that
[04:45:05] Russia never could over Ukraine. I remember being skeptical of your message when Ukraine
[04:45:11] first had the highest leverage, but I can see you right now when Ukraine gets more leverage,
[04:45:15] think they can somehow get even more in steamroll, which is not likely, and the results will be catastrophic.
[04:45:25] Also, also with Israel, Russia is a sovereign country. Israel technically is not.
[04:45:36] Israel is just an extension of Western imperialism. Russia is doing its own shit, okay?
[04:45:45] Like, there's perhaps no better example of how Israel operates and the fact that Hamas
[04:45:50] is already foregone, it's governing powers as of like yesterday, they're officially
[04:45:57] now allowing a technocratic committee to take control over the Gaza Strip, and Israel's
[04:46:02] still assassinated people yesterday.
[04:46:05] The fuck are we talking about?
[04:46:07] Like, look, Russia has done a litany of war crimes, it's obviously illegal, it's irredentist
[04:46:12] behavior to go and fucking wage war in Ukraine and try to expand your territory into Ukraine
[04:46:18] regardless of what security concerns you may or may not have.
[04:46:22] But there is definitely a difference.
[04:46:25] Like we look at Bucha, right?
[04:46:28] And the things that Russia did in Bucha, Israel has done that everywhere in Gaza and
[04:46:34] in the fucking West Bank.
[04:46:35] Like it's not, like you look at some of the worst shit that Russia has done and you try
[04:46:40] to compare to Israel. That's like Israel's Monday. Do you see what I'm saying? This isn't
[04:46:49] to like undermine Russia's gross violations of international law. I'm not in the business
[04:46:56] of doing that at all. I'm just, if you want to make that comparison, I mean Israel's doing
[04:47:01] it in Lebanon right now. They're doing it in Gaza. They're doing it in Lebanon. They're
[04:47:06] They're trying to do it in Iran with America's go ahead with America's aid, but that's crazy.
[04:47:20] The thing that always bothers me is that Ukraine is a martial law, so no elections, so they
[04:47:23] have conscription regime that now doesn't give anyone the ability to do electorally
[04:47:27] change policy.
[04:47:28] That's not a, that's the dictatorship, however, I completely condemn Russia for its illegal
[04:47:31] invasion.
[04:47:32] I mean, I get why they're under martial law. They're being invaded. I don't think that's
[04:47:45] a valid counter to that. I've never done that. I've never made that argument.
[04:47:54] But what's frustrating, the only reason why that argument actually,
[04:47:58] There is a little bit of credence to it, is that there is no appetite amongst the Ukrainian masses to continue the war as it stands currently.
[04:48:08] There is definitely a lot of people in civilized society in Ukraine that want an end to all of this.
[04:48:22] to end. They want a cessation to the hostilities and they're even willing to give territory
[04:48:28] to Russia at this point to make it happen. You know what I mean? That's what's important.
[04:48:38] And of course those demands are never going to be heard because there is a real martial
[04:48:43] law for understandable reasons. So I'm a little bit of a centrist on that front where I think
[04:48:48] It's like kind of ridiculous to be like, oh, they have martial law. Yeah. Okay. Well, they're invaded. Like they're getting fucking bombed. You know what I mean?
[04:48:55] Russia is like blowing up civilian areas with, with hypersonic missiles. It's, it's a little crazy to be like, all right, well, time to do a fucking
[04:49:06] Time to do an election. You know what I mean? That's the, this is the problem. Yes.
[04:49:12] Ukraine is souring on US relationship from June 30th 59 percentage point decline in US rules since 2022 is the largest ever recorded
[04:49:20] God, we are so fucking self-interested by the way. I love that Gallup is just only Gallup starts off with
[04:49:27] Ukraine is don't fuck with America no more. Yeah, no shit, dude
[04:49:42] The real viewpoint that matters here is the Ukrainian views towards the war, okay?
[04:49:52] Ukraine should seek to negotiate an ending to the war as soon as possible is at 66%, okay?
[04:50:00] And Ukraine should continue fighting until it wins the war is at its lowest at 24%, okay?
[04:50:11] Okay. That's it. I mean, this was obviously the opposite. Ukraine should negotiate in
[04:50:23] 2023 was at 27%. And in 2022, obviously, it was, you know, 73% continue the war, 22%
[04:50:33] and ending the war that's flipped in its entirety.
[04:50:55] So yeah.
[04:50:59] I will always say give peace a chance.
[04:51:02] give peace a shot. At worst, all you can do is just go back to square one, which is a permawore, right?
[04:51:18] And let me see this.
[04:51:19] Asmengold and Hassan Piker on the same level of competency, you're beyond cooked.
[04:51:26] Can you name a single politician Asmengold has ever interviewed?
[04:51:32] Can you name a single march Asmengold has ever been to?
[04:51:36] Can you name a room Asmengold has been in outside of his own?
[04:51:41] Can you name a position Asmengold has that he wouldn't fold on like a literal taco if
[04:51:48] his chat pressuring him. What do you mean does AI by the way? What's AI? In anyone who
[04:51:54] won an election because of as many gold, don't even a smooth brain take this. I don't really
[04:52:00] watch either of these two people take because if you had to sit and watch an as many gold
[04:52:05] stream with your phone out and Google search everything that he says, the only person you'd
[04:52:12] find more incorrect statements from is literally Joe Rogan. But if you did the same thing with
[04:52:17] Leftist caping for the neo-nausea state of Ukraine in its fascist politics.
[04:52:22] No, this is crazy. Hasan, how can you face yourself? Some kind of leftist and you're like,
[04:52:26] oh, it's cool. They cancel relations. They got rid of all the left-leaning parties. Okay, first of
[04:52:29] all, you're adding some shit in there that I'm not in agreement with. I never said it was appropriate
[04:52:34] for them to do that. And I never said that Ukraine is like a fucking perfect democracy in any way,
[04:52:39] shape or form. Okay. You think I'm oblivious to the, the nationalists, uh, growing in power
[04:52:48] and influence and prominence, uh, and rise to the ranks of the military as well. What
[04:52:52] do you think fucking happens when you get illegally invaded? That was my day one take.
[04:52:57] Ironically enough, the second part of my, uh, very famous take when I said Russia, uh,
[04:53:02] Vladimir Putin is bad, not mad. He would never invade Ukraine, especially to quote-unquote
[04:53:11] denazify Ukraine, because all of the neo-Nazi and nationalist elements, once a country is
[04:53:16] invaded, are seen as the most significant emancipatory forces.
[04:53:21] Lo and behold, that's where we're at. I am aware of this. This is part of the reason
[04:53:27] why they fucking said I was a Vladimir Putin Z-pusher the whole time, because I was talking
[04:53:31] my azab battalion and the nationalist forces. It's Russian's fault that Ukraine is neo-nazified.
[04:53:40] Yes! What? Yes, dude! What are you talking about? Yeah! 100%! Are you fucking insane?
[04:53:50] Yes, dude. Yes. Yes. No shit. Are you nuts? I am very sane. Of course.
[04:54:05] Dog, what do you think happens? You cannot be serious. No, I want
[04:54:10] that is the one that is the one argument that I will not stand by
[04:54:13] at all. That is, you are denying every aspect of history. You are
[04:54:19] denying every aspect of history. The most fundamentalist, the most fascist, the most
[04:54:26] nationalist forces are the ones who are willing to pick up their fucking arms and fight back.
[04:54:34] America also played a role in this. Obviously, we armed the fucking Azal battalion and shit
[04:54:39] and we played a decent role in fomenting that discontent, legitimizing some of these forces.
[04:54:45] much is true, but once you, but once you fucking invade, once you invade the
[04:54:52] country, all bets are off.
[04:54:57] What do you mean? I'd kill myself had to deal with your chatter sometimes. Yeah,
[04:55:04] it's like the most basic concept.
[04:55:09] Man, these chattas are fucking ridiculous. What's wrong with these chattas? Listen,
[04:55:13] Brother sister
[04:55:16] Understand something okay
[04:55:20] Tomorrow let's say an alien force
[04:55:24] Comes down to the planet and attacks the United States of America
[04:55:28] Are you gonna turn around and be like well that guy's a Klansman? I can't deal with these and he's shooting at the fucking aliens
[04:55:35] But you know our political disagreements are far more consequential or are you gonna say that's my brother?
[04:55:41] I love him, and he's fighting for me. He's fighting for my emancipation
[04:55:48] I'm joining the aliens. Okay, shut the fuck up
[04:55:57] Yes, Ukraine was a hotbed for Nazis before the war pre-war neo-Nazis all over the Europe used the whole gatherings in Ukrainian shit
[04:56:03] Yes, I know that I know all of that. I've covered all of that extensively. That's why they Sam was a Z pusher
[04:56:08] I know what do you think happens when you actually fucking invade the country, dude? That's it. I
[04:56:15] Know Ukraine was a hotbed for the international neo-nazi movement. It always was
[04:56:21] All the vice-premises from like Australia all the way to fucking the United States of America will go to Ukraine and
[04:56:27] Would train with the neo-nazi brigades in Ukraine? Guess what now?
[04:56:31] You know who else is holding arms next to those guys the fucking anti-fascists the socialists the communists
[04:56:38] The people that were in Ukraine that used to fight these fucking football hooligans and shit on the streets are now taking up arms to fight against Russia
[04:56:46] It's normal. That's what happens
[04:56:49] You literally are a Z pusher though. That's so funny. I know I know Zara mum downy. That's the only Z I push
[04:57:08] I can't believe we're having this fucking conversation again. We're going back and forth on this.
[04:57:19] Anyway, let's see what else I can do.
[04:57:38] make this level of false equivalency.
[04:57:40] Hasan Parker is a streamer who gets involved in communities.
[04:57:43] He does community outreach.
[04:57:45] He actually sits down with incumbents.
[04:57:48] He sits down and has in-depth conversations
[04:57:50] with people who are running for office in numerous states,
[04:57:54] in numerous cities, in numerous districts.
[04:57:58] Politicians across the country
[04:58:00] are terrified of this man.
[04:58:02] No one fears Asmin Gold.
[04:58:04] Asmin Gold is an almost 40-year-old man
[04:58:07] who doesn't like showering and is at the beck and call of 12 year olds and a bunch of grown losers.
[04:58:14] I don't even have anything to say after that. That's just what it is.
[04:58:20] I hate that people really have me defending a Sompiker. I also support Sompikers, completely transparent.
[04:58:28] As we've already discussed why he doesn't endorse politicians as long as a radical communist that wants to see the western world destroyed, you know nothing, Jon Snow.
[04:58:35] What the fuck?
[04:58:42] What position is Azman folded on?
[04:58:43] That's why they call him Azman fold.
[04:58:57] Mr. P versus Mr. Poop.
[04:58:58] I like that this guy's literally talking about
[04:59:01] like the false equivalence is so stupid
[04:59:03] and he immediately goes, nah, I'm gonna do that.
[04:59:13] They literally only think in terms of 2010 media.
[04:59:28] What happened to Mr. Poopoo Peepy Man?
[04:59:29] I don't know.
[04:59:33] I view us on as the same as John Lennon, they're both terribly complicated beings, who if
[04:59:40] you met them they would probably just suck both performative but also actually did things
[04:59:45] for their cause.
[04:59:47] Dude, there are so many, there are so many motherfuckers out there that just like, that
[04:59:58] have seen I guess the other people hating on me so they're like I can't have like a normal
[05:00:07] take on this motherfucker I have to find I have to find some reason for why this dude is actually
[05:00:13] bad it's very strange here's some good news by the way
[05:00:25] the odds. I had race outside Senate campaign since the debate outside Senate campaign brings in
[05:00:32] 150 grand since the debate and 1.25 million in the last 10 days.
[05:00:43] Matt Zaylans is in an older media and fundraising environment. Planner would have blown up on the
[05:00:47] runway just from the Reddit post tattoo and early staff defections. But with ACK Blue Bernie
[05:00:51] podcast partisan cable you can completely size them an older set of gatekeepers. I just don't
[05:00:56] really think you can discount the fact that Janet Mills was one not popular. No Roy Cooper,
[05:01:01] two old three did not campaign in a way that debunk age concerns left God looking with their
[05:01:05] opponent and wanted to claim it was all about platter's message. Oh my God.
[05:01:12] Matt, even when you're right, you're wrong. It's incredible.
[05:01:18] Even when Matt Iglesias is technically not wrong, he still finds a way to be wrong.
[05:01:32] A lot of these things are correct. Okay, he's always stuck between border,
[05:01:39] but he's stuck between the border of wrong and more wrong.
[05:01:45] Like, left got lucky with their opponent and wanted to claim it was all about Platinum's
[05:01:48] message. Dog, it was all about Platinum's message. Just give it up. You will. We know you will.
[05:01:55] You are going to give it up eventually. We know because you're a fucking windsock.
[05:02:02] You're a professional windsock, Madaglacias. Why not have to take today rather than six months
[05:02:10] down the line where you reluctantly find a way to offer mealy-mouthed
[05:02:16] credence to what the left has been saying while simultaneously making a seem as though
[05:02:24] it's the left's fault that you couldn't get on board because we were too annoying.
[05:02:30] Remember when you were Mr, the Israel stuff after October 7 is going to collapse the left,
[05:02:35] it's over, it's done.
[05:02:37] There will never be an organized left movement in this country ever again.
[05:02:42] how wrong you were. And now you basically tell politicians to just agree with me so you can do
[05:02:48] abundance elsewhere. Like he literally has openly, three years after the fact,
[05:02:56] finally arrived at the conclusion that we were right. And he just straight up now tells politicians
[05:03:00] to just agree with me on Israel. Like he literally goes, just agree with us on Israel and then
[05:03:06] try to explain to his audience that like we need you know we need to destroy
[05:03:11] zoning regulations and stuff like that like we can we can push the abundance
[05:03:17] message that way just fucking just to strap Israel bro that's what he's now
[05:03:21] saying so here's the here's the question I have it's like you're eventually
[05:03:27] gonna arrive at left populism being a successful route to electoral success
[05:03:33] Why not do it right now?
[05:03:40] Why not do it right now?
[05:03:43] He can't
[05:03:45] He can't do it right now. He just has to arrive at the wrong point. Anyway, the left got lucky with their opponent is fucking bullshit. I
[05:03:56] Guess we just keep getting lucky with our opponent's everywhere
[05:04:03] Yes, I saw, by the way, everyone kept spamming the Troy Jackson thing.
[05:04:11] I know.
[05:04:12] He said, this is unconscionable.
[05:04:13] Anybody with eyes and a heart knows the Israeli government is committing a genocide in Gaza.
[05:04:17] It has to end, and we as Americans have the power to end it when I'm in the Senate.
[05:04:20] I'll never vote in favor of U.S. taxpayer fund and military aid to Israel.
[05:04:24] We want to hear an embargo from you, Troy.
[05:04:27] No weapons transfers to Israel.
[05:04:30] the TROY.
[05:04:41] Main candidate Nourav Shah at a May event comparing the scars he saw as he worked in
[05:04:44] Cambodia to the genocide in Gaza after every single genocide the world says the very same
[05:04:48] thing never again but when it comes to Gaza he says it's not being upheld.
[05:04:52] Okay, maybe Nourav Shah is actually anti-genocide.
[05:04:58] Do you vote to send aid to Israel? No. Do you think it's genocide? Yes, he did say that.
[05:05:06] I still think he's phony. He's Mr. I'm defending the landlords.
[05:05:27] Anyway, you're in the new reckless ban lego video by the way, okay we'll watch it later.
[05:05:33] I talked about a lot on this on my stream but the problem we've had until this year
[05:05:37] there wasn't sufficiently developed DSA to run in, all the opportunities that gave the
[05:05:41] sloppy list progressives opportunities that we should have had from DSA after this year
[05:05:44] is very clear that we can win anywhere DSA must grow and develop fast for 2028 I agree.
[05:05:50] That's my, that's, that's what I see as well.
[05:05:54] There will come a day when I won't even have to endorse people who aren't democratic socialists.
[05:06:05] There will come a day.
[05:06:06] We're not there yet, but we're getting there.
[05:06:09] 25 million from APAC now spent in the Michigan primary.
[05:06:11] The most one organization has ever spent in a congressional primary in U.S. history beating
[05:06:15] its own record against Bowman two years ago, and there's still a month to go.
[05:06:21] Yeah, APAC's United Democracy Project in Super PAC, a stronger Michigan file over 5 million
[05:06:27] in anti-obdoulas ad ads literally one minute apart from each other.
[05:06:34] Heck yeah, can't wait for your right wing arc, what do you mean?
[05:06:40] Shaw is very bad, I know, I know I read all that.
[05:06:43] He said he's a University of Chicago guy, took millions from 314, got a lot of money
[05:06:46] for the coax for school privatization, I know I read all of that.
[05:06:50] I warned against that. He also said he thinks landlords are the most maligned people in
[05:06:54] American society and he'll stand with them.
[05:07:02] I do not trust Shaw.
[05:07:09] What is this? Post serious shit?
[05:07:12] Like this? Post serious shit? 7K likes. Post joke? 57K likes. Do you have a new message
[05:07:17] for Mitch, sir. Yeah, this is, I cannot believe how viral this went. I went to college with
[05:07:34] Haley Stevens and let me tell you it's really important to mission Alex Abdul El Sayed. She
[05:07:41] ran for student government president while she was secretly applying for a study abroad
[05:07:44] program at Oxford one and got into the program at Oxford then resigned as student government
[05:07:48] president. That's awesome. What gives? Anyway, and we'll only make it safer, including for
[05:08:06] a little gas prices had been coming down on the heels of the ceasefire in Iran after hitting
[05:08:13] a peak of more than $4.50 back in May. But as the conflict heats back up, some analysts
[05:08:20] warned the national average could soon push toward $4.00 again. Adriana.
[05:08:25] All right, Wichita, thank you so much. We are now joined by CBS News national security
[05:08:29] analyst Aaron McLean. He is also the host of the School of War podcast. Aaron, we're
[05:08:34] so glad you're here this morning because as you know, when the memorandum of understanding
[05:08:38] was announced. There was so much relief, but yet we are here again. How did this happen?
[05:08:43] Yeah, that relief may have been misplaced. How it happened is that the MOU itself, frankly,
[05:08:50] was poorly designed in some regards, including over the key issue of who controls the Strait
[05:08:55] of Hormuz. The Americans, President Trump said that the MOU means that the Strait is
[05:08:59] open, but the Iranians interpreted the same language in the MOU as meaning they control
[05:09:04] the Strait. And for them, controlling the Strait means they get to shoot at ships that
[05:09:07] that aren't complying with their instructions.
[05:09:09] And that's exactly how we fallied ourselves
[05:09:11] where we are now.
[05:09:12] The US says that its attacks have been in response
[05:09:14] to Iran shooting at ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
[05:09:17] Tell us what the status of the Strait is right now.
[05:09:21] Traffic's crashed out pretty badly.
[05:09:22] I mean, we were at a point a couple of weeks ago
[05:09:24] where we saw numbers on the order of 60, 70 ships a day
[05:09:28] going through.
[05:09:29] Those are not pre-war numbers.
[05:09:30] That's about half of the pre-war average.
[05:09:32] But it was healthier by far than what we've seen of late
[05:09:35] as of the last 24, 36 hours,
[05:09:38] things have slowed to a crawl,
[05:09:39] as you might expect,
[05:09:41] giving the amount of violence
[05:09:41] both in the straight
[05:09:42] and on the Iranian coast adjacent to it.
[05:09:45] Aaron, with all this back and forth, it seems,
[05:09:47] you know, this is a constant vicious cycle once again.
[05:09:51] Where do you expect this to go in the coming days?
[05:09:54] All right, so this is where I sort of regret to report,
[05:09:57] regret to say the next thing,
[05:09:58] which is it's certainly possible
[05:10:00] that peace could break out in our time and there'd be a deal.
[05:10:02] It's possible that there'd be massive escalation
[05:10:04] we see a return to the kind of conflict we had in March and April. But I actually think
[05:10:08] a middle course right now is also likely and worth considering that what we are looking
[05:10:13] at.
[05:10:14] Isn't it kind of weird the media is being honest about Iran's understanding of the MOU
[05:10:18] instead of just blaming him for breaking it? No, because we've already gone above the,
[05:10:22] we've gone above the line. I think Donald Trump gave a moment of respite to the world
[05:10:28] with the MOU and everyone was like, oh, fuck, okay, like we're chill. Like things are gonna
[05:10:33] get back to normal. So now, violating the Memorandum of Understanding and then going
[05:10:40] back to tit for tat strikes, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, the crisis grows, right?
[05:10:48] Again, it's the only crowd that is benefiting from this will be the Israel crowd. That's
[05:10:55] it. That's it. Europe wants this to be done. Europe wants America to abide by the memorandum
[05:11:06] of understanding. The Asian market certainly want that. The only country on the planet
[05:11:15] that doesn't want this to continue, that wants us to continue, is Israel. Americans don't want
[05:11:21] this to continue either, but they're too busy being Americans and not giving a shit about anything
[05:11:27] until they finally are forced to reckon with the negative consequences of continuing this war
[05:11:33] and dumping into the critical line in our strategic reserves.
[05:11:39] Right now, these intermittent eruptions of violence, this constant back and forth in the
[05:11:45] strait itself, this general disagreement, this mid-grade war, that this may be the new normal,
[05:11:50] and we may see this persist for some time.
[05:11:53] Yeah. All right. Aaron McLean, thank you so much.
[05:11:56] Here we go again.
[05:11:58] It's definitely not peace, but it's not quite all-out war.
[05:12:06] A second night of American strikes on Iran,
[05:12:09] destroying air defense systems and missile launch sites,
[05:12:13] sending oil prices rising again.
[05:12:17] Iran, predictably responding with its own attacks, targeting, it said, U.S. military
[05:12:23] sites in Kuwait and Bahrain.
[05:12:26] President Trump talking both of possible negotiations and further fighting.
[05:12:31] We just hit them very hard and I'd say we hit them 20 to 1.
[05:12:35] Every time they hit us, we're going to hit them 20, they call it a little while ago.
[05:12:39] They want to make a deal so badly.
[05:12:41] I just don't know if they're worthy of making a deal.
[05:12:43] I don't know that they're going to honor the deal.
[05:12:47] clashes centre on control of the Strait of Hormuz. A fifth of the world's oil and gas
[05:12:53] supply used to peacefully pass through here before the war. A memorandum of understanding
[05:12:59] between the US and Iran last month saw ships finally begin to move once again, but left
[05:13:06] control of the Strait, never previously an issue, still to be discussed.
[05:13:13] The Tittvatat military strikes resumed this week, after Iranian forces targeted several
[05:13:19] tankers, transiting without their permission.
[05:13:24] Iran wants all ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz to take this route along its coast,
[05:13:30] while the US has encouraged them to transit near the coast of Oman.
[05:13:35] Since the MOU was signed, 917 commercial vessels have passed through the Strait, according
[05:13:42] to data from leading global trade intelligence firm Kepler.
[05:13:46] 290 of them along the Iranian route, but just over 300 along the Imani coast.
[05:13:54] Another 326 turned their locators off to avoid it.
[05:13:58] Why did Iran do this?
[05:14:00] Wasn't it a good deal for Iran?
[05:14:02] No.
[05:14:03] Iran has bled and fought for new leverage that they're not going to give up.
[05:14:13] The leverage being that they get to control who passes, who transits to the Shredi Hormuz.
[05:14:21] They're not going to stop ships from transiting, they just want to be able to control it.
[05:14:31] And it's important because it's a security guarantee, it's existential for Iran.
[05:14:37] Now they no longer have to go and engage in the process of enriching uranium, right?
[05:14:46] Protection by Iran, most likely traveling close to Iran.
[05:14:53] The problem is that the Iranians believed the US intention here is to erode Iran's leverage,
[05:15:00] Its most important leverage, which is its control over the strait of our laws, in order to weaken
[05:15:06] Iran's hand in the run-up to the negotiations over a final agreement or resumption of another
[05:15:13] round of conflict.
[05:15:15] Inside Iran, massive crowds for the final day of the funeral of the country's slain
[05:15:21] Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, replete with a massive sign threatening to take revenge
[05:15:28] on us.
[05:15:30] Oh, that's awesome.
[05:15:36] Trump.
[05:15:37] Belligerent rhetoric is a given at these state-sponsored rallies, but behind the scenes, there is said
[05:15:44] to be a division between hardline and more moderate factions of the regime.
[05:15:51] Only the deaths of Trump and Netanyahu will satisfy us.
[05:15:54] We must not compromise.
[05:15:55] Yeah.
[05:15:56] What did they mean by that?
[05:15:57] Under any circumstances as we have no reason to compromise with the US and Israel
[05:16:03] These might be the list Trump was talking about. I mean, yeah, of course, they want to fucking kill him dude. What do you mean?
[05:16:16] Iran clearly feels it has emerged from this war with the upper hand
[05:16:20] as foreign dignitaries from around the Middle East paid their respects to the assassinated
[05:16:26] supreme leader.
[05:16:27] No, wait, hold on. Let's go to the TikTok comments. Mourners carry signs threatening Trump during
[05:16:32] former Ayatollah Khamenei's funeral procession. I'm tired of being teased. What is taking
[05:16:37] so long? Dang, what's taking so damn long? They have full rights to be upset. Promise.
[05:16:42] Our hopes and prayers are with you. He plays golf in Florida. My heart goes out to the
[05:16:47] mourners and their wishes. Okay, listen, I disavow. I disavow. I disavow. But is there's like one comment
[05:17:02] in disagreement with the Iranians, man.
[05:17:10] We do not like this. I disavow this. I would never, I am not. I hate
[05:17:17] I hate, yeah, this is what Donald Trump meant when he said I'm number one on TikTok. What he meant was he's the number one hated
[05:17:28] I'm the number one hated on TikTok
[05:17:34] They were pointed chapters from the Quran recited
[05:17:38] This one during the visit of Saudi officials
[05:17:41] commemorates a historic battle between a Muslim army and a far greater force of unbelievers.
[05:17:52] Allah supports with victory whom he wills, goes the verse.
[05:18:00] Neither Iran nor the US want to return to full scale war,
[05:18:05] but this is looking dangerously like it could be the new normal.
[05:18:10] normal. Sporadic strikes, significant economic disruption, unless somehow negotiations and
[05:18:17] diplomacy produce a sudden breakthrough.
[05:18:21] Well, Arsenio Dominguez is the Secretary General of the International Maritime Organization,
[05:18:27] and he joins us now. Do you have a view on who is right and who is wrong, or are they
[05:18:32] both wrong?
[05:18:34] Well, at this stage, what we're actually looking is to, first of all, uphold the principles
[05:18:41] of international law that regulate international straight for navigation.
[05:18:47] It is important that the two parties in the conflict clarify their views in relation to
[05:18:54] the memorandum of understanding.
[05:18:56] But for us, it's very clear at the International Media Time Organization that the literal states
[05:19:01] surrounding the Strait of Hormuz have the duties and the responsibilities of managing
[05:19:06] the strait that doesn't include impositions of who transits through the strait, but providing
[05:19:13] the necessary assistance, safety requirements as well as navigations.
[05:19:17] So this is why it's so important that the negotiations continue and we also can bring
[05:19:24] the knowledge and know-how in relation to the operations that have been going through
[05:19:29] through the state of Hormuz for many decades.
[05:19:31] So we know there's a basic disagreement.
[05:19:33] Iran believes the agreement at the moment
[05:19:36] means that it should administer every vessel passing
[05:19:40] through the strait of Hormuz.
[05:19:41] The Americans are trying to encourage people
[05:19:44] to use the other side of the water, the Amani side
[05:19:46] of the water, which the Iranians are desperate to stop,
[05:19:49] because it would weaken them in future negotiations.
[05:19:53] So what should ships do today if they want to try and cross?
[05:19:56] Well, our present, the reality is that I have reiterated my message that whilst there's
[05:20:04] no clarity on the safety of the seafirters, and in particular those innocents that have
[05:20:10] been trapped for many months now in the Strait of Hormuz, we should not take any risks.
[05:20:15] It is important also to recognize that during a conflict, there's a lot of statements that
[05:20:20] will be made that not necessarily will follow the actions that we take here at the organization
[05:20:25] when we have the negotiations.
[05:20:27] So what we're working on is in the relationships between,
[05:20:31] in particularly Iran and Oman, how we can reinstate
[05:20:36] the usage of the traffic separation scheme that
[05:20:39] was adopted by AMO back in 1968 and before the conflict was
[05:20:43] operated jointly by Oman and Iran.
[05:20:47] And in the meantime, we need to continue
[05:20:49] to work on those safe guarantees for the countries
[05:20:53] to allow the trade to resume.
[05:20:56] But again, we cannot forget that whilst the conflict is going, it's going to be difficult
[05:21:02] to immediately get a final solution, and there are further guarantees that we will need required
[05:21:08] before trade resumes as it was before the conflict started.
[05:21:12] Now, we know that eventually Iran would like to start charging ships passing the Straits
[05:21:17] of Hormuz, but right now they are not charging.
[05:21:21] So why would any ships not coordinate with Iran?
[05:21:25] Why would they try and take this other route that the Americans want them to?
[05:21:33] We have to recognize the first part of the situations in relation to charges or fees.
[05:21:38] That is how-
[05:21:39] Have you covered the very important part that Khamenei's body was transported by a finished
[05:21:42] grocery store's coal truck Finland was mentioned?
[05:21:45] Is that real?
[05:21:46] I thought that was AI.
[05:21:50] I thought that was the AI.
[05:21:59] There's no legal basis for that to be introduced
[05:22:04] on straight for international navigation.
[05:22:06] But there aren't any of them.
[05:22:07] We also need to recognize...
[05:22:10] I beg your pardon?
[05:22:11] There aren't any charges at the moment, are there?
[05:22:15] No, there are no charges, but we also need to recognize
[05:22:18] the importance of reiterating the usage of the traffic separation scheme that went through
[05:22:24] a process in these organizations of verifying that it's the safest route to take.
[05:22:30] The other two routes that we have at present, which are considered extraordinary routes
[05:22:35] or temporary routes, have not gone through the process of our verification in relation
[05:22:40] to any risk, navigational charts, etc.
[05:22:44] We can use them now because of course the traffic separation scheme that was established
[05:22:48] in 1968 is not safe to do so because of mines. So in the meantime, that's part of the coordination
[05:22:54] they were carrying out, but we need to get the parties back onto the table because if we want
[05:22:58] to resume the operations. It was an old truck that a delivery contractor had sold to Iramuda
[05:23:04] remove the graphics. I choose to believe that Finland did this on purpose. Sorry.
[05:23:12] It's in my head, Canon.
[05:23:19] Yeah, no, Finland did that on purpose. They actually support. They actually are offering
[05:23:24] critical support to the Islamic Republic. Much respect to Finland in this endeavor.
[05:23:30] in the straight as we were in rise up used to we need to start thinking first on all
[05:23:37] the safety guarantees not only for the sea ferries but also for the ships and the oh
[05:23:42] yeah this is the story that everybody wants me to cover count bin face is running in the
[05:23:48] collecting by election not an I don't understand why other people are not running in this by
[05:23:55] election against Nigel Farage and it's just Count Binface but I don't know the British
[05:24:01] elections are so strange to me.
[05:24:03] All the major political parties have refused to stand in the Clapton by election but Nigel
[05:24:10] Farage will be up against Count Binface and of course the count now joins us on Good Morning
[05:24:17] Britain.
[05:24:18] Very good morning to you Count Binface.
[05:24:21] Good morning, Mr. Reed. Good morning, Mr. Balls. And how dare you say all the major parties
[05:24:26] aren't standing. Come on, you just, you contradicted yourself.
[05:24:29] That's true. You are standing. Are you in it to bin it?
[05:24:33] Well, exactly. This is one of my lovely little phrases. I mean, am I standing? I mean, right
[05:24:39] now I'm sitting and it depends on getting the 10 nominations from the good humans of
[05:24:44] Clacton if, of course, Nigel Farage doesn't do a reverse felix because he's terrified
[05:24:50] of the prospect of facing me, Mano Abino, so we shall see.
[05:24:55] And Captain Binface, have you been to Clacton many times? Do you know the constituency well?
[05:25:03] Well, I've been to Clacton precisely zero times, because based on the activities of the incumbent,
[05:25:09] I thought that was what you were supposed to do. So I was just following protocol.
[05:25:14] So, well, I should turn up in the constituency at all as clearly academic. Maybe I should spend
[05:25:19] more time in Washington DC or in Thailand, you tell me.
[05:25:23] And talking of following the other candidate, have you ever received a £5 million gift
[05:25:29] from anybody?
[05:25:33] Certainly not on your planet now. So you can't get me on that one, standards commissioners.
[05:25:37] What the recyclons give me on a Sigma name is my business alone.
[05:25:42] I mean, the trouble is it has all turned into a farce. If Nigel Farage only faces a challenge
[05:25:53] from, with all due respect, you, Count Binface, do you think that the other parties are making
[05:26:00] a mistake or do you think that Conservative voters, Lib Dem voters, Labour voters should
[05:26:06] all vote for you or boycott this by election?
[05:26:10] Well, I mean, Susanna, you talked to me about FAST, but you're a Crystal Palace supporter.
[05:26:17] And they've been through all kinds of stuff, but now they've turned it around.
[05:26:20] And they've won trophy after trophy.
[05:26:23] So the underdog can prevail, as you well know.
[05:26:26] And you know, whether the other parties are running Fritz, I think is the political word,
[05:26:31] I love that word, Fritz of old Benny, or they don't want to be part of Nigel's sideshow,
[05:26:37] we shall find out.
[05:26:38] source the thing is, if there's a second by-election when parliament finds out that Nigel has done
[05:26:44] something a bit iffy, if they do, who knows? And then of course there'll be another by-election
[05:26:49] which costs 380 grand to the British taxpayer. So if they vote me in, I save you lot 380,000
[05:26:58] earth pounds without lifting a space finger. When when? Is he in it to win it? Is he in it to win it?
[05:27:04] We'll find out.
[05:27:05] We'll find out.
[05:27:06] Cambenface, thanks very much indeed for your time this morning and of course...
[05:27:10] I'm not gonna lie, I'm actually kinda happy I got banned from the UK after this dude.
[05:27:19] I mean, what are you, what are you guys doing?
[05:27:23] What the fuck is this fake ass country doing?
[05:27:27] It's cool, it's cool man.
[05:27:29] The tutorial will always say, we need to point out Nigel Farage says he's done nothing wrong.
[05:27:35] And read out the list of candidates in the by-election. We have not yet been called, so we're still okay on that one.
[05:27:39] Now so far, one of the only few who say they will stand in the Clacton by-election is Count.
[05:27:46] Jokes are not allowed. Yeah, no, I just...
[05:27:52] I just don't get it. I don't even understand why this by-election is happening. I don't understand why
[05:27:59] Nigel Farage is running unopposed with the exception account bin face.
[05:28:15] People keep saying there's gonna be another by-election regardless, right?
[05:28:29] Isn't the election only happening because Faraj called it so he can't get investigated on something?
[05:28:36] Yeah, right? That's that's it, right? Faraj is trying to score points by to say
[05:28:42] unpopular looks so nobody is playing his game. But how does that even work?
[05:28:50] Like, who cares if he's popular? Who cares if he wins this election? What? Like, would the courts go,
[05:28:56] Oh, well, we can't prosecute him any longer. He's popular. Is that how it works? Like, in his mind?
[05:29:04] Like, what, what line of defense does he get out of winning this by-election?
[05:29:15] He says it's a referendum, but that's not how it works. Like, can you imagine?
[05:29:19] It worked for Trump?
[05:29:22] Yeah.
[05:29:24] Trump didn't run for Klaikton in the by-election.
[05:29:27] He ran for president, okay?
[05:29:34] Which again, it shouldn't have worked in a civilized country.
[05:29:36] It shouldn't have worked anyway.
[05:29:38] But there is a difference.
[05:29:41] It's not the fucking Klaikton by-election, it's the presidency.
[05:29:46] So I am having a very hard time comprehending what like his victory here would do anything
[05:29:53] other than the fact that it just like pushes his prosecution back, right?
[05:30:01] Because like now he's running for office.
[05:30:03] So what is he gonna do?
[05:30:05] Just keep getting people to drop out so that he can do by election after by election all
[05:30:10] across the fucking country.
[05:30:14] time there's another, anytime there's another investigation, he's like, well, I'm running
[05:30:19] a different by election now.
[05:30:20] This is how it is.
[05:30:21] I'm just buying time with by elections.
[05:30:35] It's not a criminal prosecution.
[05:30:36] It's an internal investigation within parliament.
[05:30:38] So it's highly political.
[05:30:40] Okay.
[05:30:41] It's an attempt to save some mandate from the people by boycotting and leaving it to
[05:30:53] Benface, the other parties are trying to sidestep his game.
[05:31:10] Benface, who was last seen sharing a stage with Andy Burnham at the Makerfield by-election.
[05:31:16] And Camp Benface joins us now.
[05:31:19] Good morning your time, good evening Sigma 9 time, it's a pleasure to be with you.
[05:31:25] Good morning from space, hello to you.
[05:31:28] First question, why would an intergalactic space warrior want to stand to be the MP for Clacton?
[05:31:35] Why not?
[05:31:39] It's a good question, tell me about your manifesto, what can you offer the people of Clacton, have you ever been there?
[05:31:45] No, because I understand from the current incumbent that is part of how you do the job.
[05:31:51] So I deliberately stayed away.
[05:31:53] Is that how it works?
[05:31:54] But, you know, if I get the 10 nominations, because, hey, look, there's no guarantee I'm
[05:31:59] standing for the election, as I'm sure you know.
[05:32:02] I'm game, but I have to get the signatures from 10 local inhabitants.
[05:32:06] Otherwise, this is a non-starter.
[05:32:09] And then, of course, I will tailor my manifesto to the local area as always.
[05:32:14] that most of my national policies will remain, building at least one affordable house, nationalising
[05:32:20] a dale, bring back seafax and of course, moving the hand dryer in the gents toilet in the
[05:32:27] crown and treaty pub outskirts to a more sensible position, because as you know, it's
[05:32:32] a national issue.
[05:32:35] Those policies didn't go down too well, did they, with the good people of Makerfield?
[05:32:38] I believe you've got 95 votes at the recent by-election, so how are you hoping to do
[05:32:42] any better. What a disgracefully scornful tone. How dare you. 95 actual votes. That's
[05:32:51] a dolly parton. 95. Just one shy of a reverse 69 which I scored against Boris in an Oxbridge
[05:32:59] Sports Hall in 2019. So I'm cock-a-hoop. I'm over your moon. I'm over my moon. I'm doing
[05:33:05] very well. I came seventh out of 14. I mean, what more do you want? What do you say to
[05:33:10] those other parties. Wait, there were actually seven other people that he defeated with 95 votes?
[05:33:19] Who the fuck's running in these elections?
[05:33:31] Like, I feel like I could get more votes if I just ran for fun.
[05:33:35] How is that possible? It's all a joke. We like to have fun here. It just doesn't make any sense.
[05:33:44] Like what you guys consider to be fun and what I consider to be fun,
[05:33:50] even though I'm a political artist as well, is very different.
[05:33:54] Who have decided not to field candidates in Clacton?
[05:34:01] Well, I mean, that's for them, isn't it, mate?
[05:34:05] That's democracy.
[05:34:06] They can choose to run away from my beneficence and magnificence.
[05:34:12] Or maybe they just noticed that Nigel is up to a...
[05:34:15] Raj's arguments will be that by running a separate by-election, his financial crimes won't be
[05:34:19] under parliamentary investigation time window, which is wrong.
[05:34:22] Yeah, I don't get it.
[05:34:32] A rather peculiar hissy fit, and they're keeping their powder dry for a second by election
[05:34:43] when of course the Parliamentary Committee reports, but interestingly you see the thing
[05:34:48] is that second election, which would cost £380,000, will only happen if Nigel wins
[05:34:55] this one. So if you vote Binface, you save the British taxpayer £380,000 without me
[05:35:03] doing anything. Stick it in the Ministry of Defence. How do you like their maffles?
[05:35:09] Can I ask roughly where you are, how long it's going to take you to Clacton and when
[05:35:13] you're planning to make your first visit and what you plan to do while you're there?
[05:35:17] Well, good question. Absolutely. Now we're talking. We're cooking on gas here. I was
[05:35:22] on my way back to Sigma 9 in my Starship, the Alberto, and I caught wind of what was
[05:35:28] going on yesterday, so I did a quick old U-turn, mid-like Kirstama, did one of those, lovely
[05:35:34] Jabli, and zoomed back, so I'm approaching the Kuiper Belt of your star system, and I'll
[05:35:41] be with you in a jiffy.
[05:35:44] Would you be up for a head-to-head debate with Nigel Farage?
[05:35:50] A Ted Arlid debate.
[05:35:52] I see what you're saying.
[05:35:53] Yeah, why not?
[05:35:54] I'd be up for that.
[05:35:56] I'd like to understand how you get five million earth pounds in crypto donations, which if
[05:36:02] they're completely out about board, I think we'd all like some of that.
[05:36:06] So we could ask him how he can enrich our coffers just like his own.
[05:36:11] But you know, I think that he's got, I'm sure he's got nothing to hide.
[05:36:14] I'm sure he's not going to reverse ferrets because it looks like it could be the Binnie
[05:36:19] McBinface election to demonstrate the wonders of democracy like never before.
[05:36:24] Now, I'm sure he's up for it just as much as I am.
[05:36:27] Clearly, Mr Farage, I deny any accusations of wrongdoing very quickly, Count Binface.
[05:36:33] Can you win?
[05:36:34] Probably not.
[05:36:36] But you know what?
[05:36:37] It's the taking part that counts.
[05:36:40] job is to demonstrate that British democracy is one. Oh God, he's a redditor. You couldn't
[05:36:45] tell that he's a redditor by doing this. I mean, it's fine. I think it would be really
[05:36:51] awesome if people just voted for this guy and then Nigel Farage lost the race. Like
[05:36:58] that's, that's a better outcome than even like, I don't know, your party running in
[05:37:02] the by election and then somehow winning. Yeah, it's peak Reddit, but it's, it's the
[05:37:07] the type of disrespect that Nigel Farage deserves.
[05:37:10] They're falling unique in the entire cosmos because you-
[05:37:14] So yes, I am endorsing Count Benface for the Clackton by-election.
[05:37:22] Stop pretending this isn't incredible.
[05:37:25] Stop grifting you piece of shit.
[05:37:34] or the fucking altars who refuse entryism here go vote yeah
[05:37:38] they always talk about third parties here's your third party and out and about
[05:37:42] communists
[05:37:46] and out about communists
[05:37:48] an intergalactic communist
[05:37:50] you can stand for whatever you want
[05:37:52] you can stand no matter who you are you could stand it
[05:37:55] this will come back to bite you he's a trashy guy
[05:37:57] you want? come and join me
[05:37:59] why not
[05:37:59] exercise your democratic rights
[05:38:02] and let's see what it takes me
[05:38:04] or indeed you, you might be the next MP for collecting.
[05:38:08] I'll be honest, it just feels like this is the most like America fight the UK has been.
[05:38:14] That's what it is. It's just like shocks me. Anyway, we're back to the, uh, Kirkification,
[05:38:21] ultimate Kirkification, which is the Charlie Kirk trial. And see it, Robinson's ex-lover
[05:38:33] seen on video for the first time.
[05:38:36] This meeting is to use your statement here instead of your testimony at a preliminary
[05:38:45] hearing. Understand that?
[05:38:47] So, in order to do that, I need to place them under oath
[05:38:51] and also give you an admonition about false statements.
[05:38:55] Okay.
[05:38:56] First, what percentage are we sure Tyler did it?
[05:38:59] Every day it lowers.
[05:39:03] Every day the percentage goes down for me.
[05:39:07] You just always swear or affirm that the evidence
[05:39:10] you shall give in this issue shall be the truth,
[05:39:14] the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
[05:39:16] So help you God.
[05:39:17] I also need to notify you that you are notified that statements you are about to make may be
[05:39:24] presented to a magistrate or a judge in lieu of your sworn testimony at a preliminary examination.
[05:39:30] Any false statement you make and that you do not believe to be true may subject you to
[05:39:36] criminal punishment as a class amnesty near. Understand that? Yes. That potentially could
[05:39:41] be used as a punishment as a higher offense as obstruction of justice. Make sure that our
[05:39:47] First, we're going to cover some of the things that you've already talked about, but to make
[05:39:54] it as part of this record.
[05:39:57] First, what's your name?
[05:39:59] My full name is Lance Twiggs.
[05:40:06] And do you know Tyler Robinson?
[05:40:08] Yes, I do.
[05:40:09] And this is the same Tyler Robinson that's been charged with shooting at Charlie Curt.
[05:40:16] was you say when you first met Tyler? I think it was 2023. I've known him longer than that.
[05:40:25] That was I think the first time I met him in person. Okay. I don't get it. What's going on here?
[05:40:34] I like I don't want to come across as insensitive.
[05:40:37] But what's happening here? Bro, go taste your dog, you liberal yellow
[05:40:48] belly, you can't say that man, that's like, that's our word.
[05:40:51] So, okay, you guys need to explain something to me.
[05:41:11] You guys need to explain something to me.
[05:41:14] And I don't want to, again, I don't want to come across as insensitive.
[05:41:19] Are they a trans person?
[05:41:20] Are they a trans woman?
[05:41:24] Did they detransition?
[05:41:26] Are they, what do they say, a boy modding?
[05:41:32] Like what's going on?
[05:41:35] Are they MB?
[05:41:37] Because like the way the media covered it, the way the media was covering this is like
[05:41:49] this is a trans woman who's a furry blah blah blah all this shit now I'm not
[05:41:55] expecting them to be in court in a furry outfit
[05:42:03] boy moating sorry not modding I'm so stupid I'm sorry
[05:42:12] Yes. I meant boy. Doesn't that sound right though? Like boy modding? Like a mod? Like, no? You just, you just put the mod on for the day.
[05:42:37] like
[05:42:44] Like it's it you installed the boy mod like a mod pack
[05:42:55] Did you just make it type out loud I just always assumed it has something to do with moms
[05:43:07] Anyway, let's just keep, let's move on from this mistake.
[05:43:17] Let's just keep going.
[05:43:20] And we just got a relationship with Tyler.
[05:43:25] When you first got in anyway.
[05:43:28] Damn, double audio.
[05:43:30] Um, no, but actually it, okay, going back in.
[05:43:35] And asking sincerely, what's the deal?
[05:43:43] Do we know?
[05:43:43] Does anyone else know?
[05:43:46] This is one of the fucking, obviously, there's
[05:43:48] a million different problems with transphobia that
[05:43:51] is so normalized in mainstream media.
[05:43:53] But I can't even get a normal answer, not even
[05:43:56] from this community, but I can't get a normal answer
[05:43:59] from reading mainstream reporting,
[05:44:01] because they all do it wrong.
[05:44:04] You know what I mean?
[05:44:05] they're gonna, they're never going to cover.
[05:44:09] Like this is sincerely one of the issues
[05:44:12] with the way that like,
[05:44:14] Mace Your Media refuses to add,
[05:44:18] like to update their style guides
[05:44:20] to make sure that they're not like engaging
[05:44:24] in transphobic stuff, not out of wokeness even,
[05:44:26] but just like purely out of, you know,
[05:44:29] how your primary job here should be
[05:44:31] to cover things correctly.
[05:44:33] You know what I mean?
[05:44:38] This is precisely the reason why, like you can't even get accurate information, certainly
[05:44:42] not on Fox, but not even on like Guardian or the BBC or the New York Times on whether
[05:44:48] or not this person is like a trans person, are they not an out trans person?
[05:44:54] You know what I mean?
[05:44:55] Like it's just, because the way that the media covered the story initially was with the FBI
[05:45:02] uh, revelations that this was like a, a trans woman. You sound like my grandpa. No, I'm
[05:45:09] trying. No, guys, come on, come on. I'm being sincere. Um, why does it matter? Well, I'm
[05:45:17] trying to establish whether or not the FBI was lying or not. You know what I mean? That's
[05:45:31] That's what it is. And I also don't want to misgender them.
[05:45:33] When I first met him, I didn't know him super well. He was just a new roommate. So I knew
[05:45:42] he knew my friend group and I knew he liked playing games, but that's about it. When we
[05:45:47] first like me, see, I'm trans and confused as well. Check logs for response. Not all
[05:45:53] trans women take hormones or have surgery to just dress and present a way that feels
[05:45:56] feminine. They will, we will commonly just according to assigned birth agenda for quarter
[05:45:59] family, weddings, etc. No, but that's what I'm saying. Is that what's going on here? You know what I mean?
[05:46:07] Like, is that what's going on here? That was simply the question I had, which, by the way, again,
[05:46:15] it's, I suspected that's what could be the case here, but do you see the broader point that I
[05:46:20] was making about like the media never really properly addressing trans related things at all?
[05:46:29] and therefore, it's virtually impossible to understand,
[05:46:33] like, it's virtually impossible to arrive at, like,
[05:46:35] accuracy in their coverage. It's another way that, like,
[05:46:39] wanting to, um, or being careless about trans existence, or, or, uh,
[05:46:44] being reluctant to address trans existence ends up,
[05:46:47] uh, fucking up your coverage.
[05:46:52] Well, I came here to listen to
[05:46:57] Hassanabi, but I seem to have
[05:46:58] stumbled across J.K. Rowling's
[05:47:00] torch channel turf mud. Okay,
[05:47:02] stop.
[05:47:04] I first moved them. Okay.
[05:47:06] Before we go on, I realize my
[05:47:08] mind was being in the USA.
[05:47:10] Which is on my phone.
[05:47:12] Okay. I'm going to repeat those
[05:47:14] admonitions just to make sure
[05:47:16] we got before it. Okay, so,
[05:47:18] again, I place you under oath.
[05:47:20] Again, I place you under oath just to make a record. I'm going to do it again.
[05:47:25] You just don't swear that evidence you shall get in this issue shall be the truth, the
[05:47:30] truth, and nothing but the truth. So how come? Yes. And again, I'm going to give you the false
[05:47:36] statement. Sorry, hold on. And if there's anything that is echoing, so I think this one's mic is on.
[05:47:44] Okay, sorry. Okay, you know how you might like that. That's fine.
[05:47:49] Okay, so we should be good. All right.
[05:47:57] Fucking boomers man for roommates. Oh, yeah. Okay. And then um at some point I your relationship
[05:48:05] progressed to something more than three minutes, right? When was that? Just asking questions,
[05:48:09] tiger. Okay, stop. I wasn't. I think we started dating two or three months after he moved out.
[05:48:15] Okay. And where did you live at that time?
[05:48:19] St. George, an apartment complex.
[05:48:22] And is that apartment the same place you-
[05:48:25] The leftist tuition from the Sampagga Challenge.
[05:48:27] It's in the Atlantic.
[05:48:31] They wrote this in the Atlantic, too.
[05:48:36] Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
[05:48:40] Oh, my God.
[05:48:42] That's correct. That's crazy. Ain't no fucking way, bro. Ain't no fucking way they wrote
[05:48:50] in the Atlantic that me and Mitch McConnell are having gay sex or as we like to call it
[05:48:55] sex. Ain't no fucking. Oh my God. McConnell's absence is prompted a flood of memes. Some
[05:49:06] involving Ouija boards. I generated Mitch zombie zombies. We can have Bernie's bar scenes and
[05:49:10] reports of the kid from the success of having reached a senator. The leftist
[05:49:13] Wichita Merisawpiger challenged McConnell to publicly deny the two are engaged in a
[05:49:17] romantic trist.
[05:49:19] What if I don't oh, no, what have I done it is
[05:49:49] Oh, God, this is going to be on Fox News, isn't it?
[05:50:07] No, they'll never cover it because then they'd have to come to terms with the reality that
[05:50:11] he's not alive.
[05:50:14] And I suspect that they're not gonna do that.
[05:50:19] I guess only Mitch can clear it up now.
[05:50:33] I bet you were a gentle lover to Mitch.
[05:50:35] No, why do you think he's in the hospital, dude?
[05:50:39] Wow, yeah, I cracked his little turtle shell.
[05:51:09] Okay, we're done we're done. That's crazy. Oh
[05:51:20] My god
[05:51:25] With when on September 10th, yes
[05:51:33] When you live there
[05:51:35] with Tyler, were you in the same room?
[05:51:37] Did you live in the same room or different rooms?
[05:51:39] I was separate rooms.
[05:51:42] And at that time, let's say, September of 2025,
[05:51:46] what were you doing with your life?
[05:51:48] Were you working, school?
[05:51:50] I was working.
[05:51:52] I was doing like bathtub and shower,
[05:51:55] repair and stuff in new construction.
[05:51:57] Okay, how about Tyler?
[05:52:00] I think he was both working.
[05:52:02] I think that he was working for an electrician
[05:52:05] company then and he was also in a trade school for being a I don't know how
[05:52:11] you're like ranking electrician I'm not sure how the trade system works for
[05:52:15] that okay but I think he was both. What was his typical workday life? I think you'd leave
[05:52:23] around seven generally and get back around three to four depending on like
[05:52:30] where the job was and how long it was for the day. And then on certain days of the week, during
[05:52:38] school, like semesters, you would then later in the day, I think around 5 or 6 go to school. So, yeah.
[05:52:46] Okay. Let's jump to September 10th. Did he spend the night in the apartment the night of September
[05:52:53] 9th into September 10th. Yeah, he did. Yes. Do you know when he left the
[05:53:01] apartment on September 10th? I don't know in exact time. I just know he left
[05:53:06] early. I heard him leaving and he just said he had like a long drive to work
[05:53:12] that day. So he was leaving early. So early. Um, any guesses to what? When
[05:53:20] that was? I don't know I would have thought it was 5 a.m. because that's when
[05:53:27] like an early workday was for him but it was probably more like four. Okay. I
[05:53:33] don't understand this, John. Just to make sure. I can do that. You're right in front
[05:53:38] your laptop. Here you go. Thank you.
[05:53:54] Great student tie by the way. I was waiting for an opportune moment to say
[05:54:03] it. But I so what time did you get up on September 10th? Probably like 12 to 1 p.m. I'm a suit
[05:54:15] guy. You didn't have to work that day. No. And did you hear from Tyler? Did you call or text you
[05:54:22] before then? No, he sent that message in the group chat I mentioned, but you didn't message me
[05:54:28] directly at all. Okay. When did you first hear from him on September 10th?
[05:54:34] It was at 11 o'clock with that like automated message.
[05:54:38] Okay, 11 p.m.? Yeah.
[05:54:47] Dude, what the fuck is going on?
[05:54:53] What is going on in Utah, bro?
[05:54:58] What is happening in Utah, actually?
[05:55:02] Now, he asks you here,
[05:55:07] remember how I was engraving bullets.
[05:55:09] Was he engraving bullets before this?
[05:55:11] Yeah. I don't remember exactly when,
[05:55:14] but if he had said he was
[05:55:15] planning to go hunting with his family,
[05:55:18] and he asked me for a,
[05:55:21] if we had a like a dremel,
[05:55:22] because he said he wanted to create messages on bullets.
[05:55:27] And I just told him where Dremel was and I told him to make sure he doesn't like set off the bullet on accident in the house.
[05:55:35] But I didn't really think about it until then.
[05:55:38] How long before September 10th was this that he asked about the Dremel?
[05:55:45] I don't remember because he'd been talking about the hunting slash camping trip for a couple of months.
[05:55:55] But I don't remember when he was specifically asking to engrave the bullets.
[05:56:00] So, are we talking like a year before?
[05:56:03] Oh, no, not that, not that long.
[05:56:05] It would have been, I'd say at most a month before this was when he was asking.
[05:56:09] Okay.
[05:56:10] All right, you talked about the note that he left.
[05:56:29] I want to bring this up, and I should say that these text messages that we've been looking
[05:56:34] at here are base number 54. Okay, the notes have been titled 16.3 with a note and this
[05:56:50] is base number 58. Do you recognize that on the screen there?
[05:56:55] Yeah.
[05:56:56] Yeah.
[05:56:57] What do you recognize it as?
[05:57:00] was the note under his keyboard that he was referring to in the first text of that chain.
[05:57:06] So where did you find this? On his desk underneath his computer keyboard.
[05:57:16] And I assume you read it? Yeah. And then what did you do after you read it?
[05:57:27] I believe I just put it back down on the desk after I took a picture of it.
[05:57:33] Okay. And again, the time you read it was probably around 11 o'clock or so on the tent.
[05:57:38] Yes.
[05:57:39] The night of September 10th.
[05:57:41] Mm-hmm.
[05:57:43] Right. And did you ever see that again after you placed it back on his desk?
[05:57:48] No, I don't think I did.
[05:57:51] And that was a desk in his bedroom?
[05:57:53] Yes.
[05:57:54] And that's a separate bedroom than your bedroom?
[05:57:56] Yeah, and I want to go to what's been titled 16.2 and do you recognize this
[05:58:09] series of messages here?
[05:58:16] Yeah that was the service.
[05:58:20] this is your phone. I
[05:58:32] recognize it because a big
[05:58:34] crack of the top. And so this
[05:58:37] is a server is discord. Yeah,
[05:58:42] this is this board. And who
[05:58:46] are members. of this? I don't
[05:58:47] other every week. Okay and I just want to scroll through this to make sure that
[05:58:53] she has to take a look at it. Are you on the next page? Yes.
[05:59:10] So Tyler Icom who's that? That's Tyler Robinson. These other people are just
[05:59:16] others on their members of the server. Yes, Judd, Barnaby, Marina, DM. Yes. Yeah, DM needs
[05:59:25] Dr. Mastery. So these are like, most of them are names they're using. They game more than
[05:59:30] Hassanabe, I bet. Yeah, okay. Well, so does Zoramumdani. Okay. In the game they're playing
[05:59:37] accurately. Yeah, it looks like the last text from Tyler looks like it's 8 p.m. And do you
[05:59:56] know what gave us would have been 8 p.m. on the 10th or the 11th? I would think that would
[06:00:02] be the 11th? Because at least I think so because I don't think on the 10th that he messaged
[06:00:11] anyone before me at like 11, so. And he turned himself in on the 11th, right? I thought so,
[06:00:17] yeah.
[06:00:18] I'm just going to go through this so that we have a record of the messages.
[06:00:41] Why is there no video just audio?
[06:00:42] It broke.
[06:00:43] Is Utah man?
[06:00:44] Is that natural recording of that threat?
[06:00:48] Uh, to my knowledge, yes.
[06:00:51] And that percent looks like between September 10th and September 12th.
[06:00:56] Looks like the last day on this is September 12th.
[06:00:59] Screens?
[06:01:00] Uh, yes.
[06:01:01] They spent like four hours yesterday talking about redactions of audio video for unadmissible,
[06:01:06] inadmissible evidence in this exhibit.
[06:01:07] These are the edits they agreed on.
[06:01:10] The lover is selling him out.
[06:01:13] I mean
[06:01:16] What do you mean? They had nothing to do with it. What the fuck would they go to prison?
[06:01:22] What
[06:01:24] Plus you don't know you don't know if it was actually
[06:01:38] You don't know if it was actually Tyler Robinson that send those text messages
[06:01:43] Just saying also, he turned himself in.
[06:01:50] All right, so again, those messages covered from September 10th to the evening of September
[06:02:14] 11th.
[06:02:15] September 11th. What time did or did you see
[06:02:21] high level on September 11th? Yes. When did you first see him on September 11th?
[06:02:26] So was it the day after the shoot? Yeah, I saw him when I woke up.
[06:02:31] Like I said, he was up and around doing a lot of stuff around the house.
[06:02:38] And then I think I saw him after that message where I said I'll come home
[06:02:44] and say I'm doing a laundry,
[06:02:46] because I didn't want him going to my parents' house
[06:02:49] right then when he said there was probably cops outside.
[06:02:53] So I went back home and it was just him there
[06:02:56] and I said bye to him and then he drove off.
[06:02:59] So I just went back to my parents' house.
[06:03:04] Can we please watch Candace on a Sean Ryan show
[06:03:06] because she goes over just about all the stuff
[06:03:07] in the investigation that has gone wrong in her theory.
[06:03:09] Personally, I think she's pretty spot on.
[06:03:12] Oh my God.
[06:03:15] Guys, we're not supposed, you're not supposed to be, this can't be sincere, okay?
[06:03:22] Like, take advantage of the misinformation atom bomb that Kanda's always dropped against the concerted effort by the Republican Party to turn this into a anti-leftist counter-terrorism operation.
[06:03:41] Operation is good
[06:03:43] But you're not supposed to literally be like yeah, Candace always has some good ideas
[06:03:47] Like if you find yourself saying Candace always has some good ideas you really really got to check yourself
[06:03:54] Okay
[06:03:57] As I'm not judging you I'm just saying you know maybe
[06:04:02] be maybe try to exercise a little caution when listening to someone like Candace Owens.
[06:04:19] Literally every normie thinks it was Israel. No, it's crazy. I know. Look, it's out of
[06:04:25] my hands. I can't do nothing about it. Clearly I don't have the staying power to combat this
[06:04:31] kind of misinformation. Okay. It's out of my hands. Sorry. I don't have the answers.
[06:04:40] You know, I don't have the answers. I don't know. Some of the stuff seems a little suspicious.
[06:04:48] Klanda's mugged you, bro. Sorry. No, she did. She mugged all of it. I mean, she mugged
[06:04:55] the goddamn federal government dude. Explain the trap door and Charlie's light switch
[06:05:04] turning ability. See, I can't. I can't do that. My
[06:05:15] For New York Times on the room agenda identities you were asking earlier, prosecutor said last
[06:05:19] year that Mr. Twig's had been transitioning to identify as a woman, but prosecutors and
[06:05:21] Mr. Robbins' lawyers have this week referred to him as a man. Mr. Twig said in the interview
[06:05:25] that for a time they went by Luna to some friends, which is how Mr. Robinson addressed
[06:05:31] him in the note. Interesting.
[06:05:35] To be fair, this is a nationally visible trial for a trans person, potentially a trans person
[06:05:47] in the state of Utah at a time when there are active initiatives to erase transgender people
[06:05:58] literally. So it could be out of safety, it could be a detransitioning situation.
[06:06:06] in, it's just, you know, we don't know. A very sad, very sad situation overall.
[06:06:36] So he acted erratically, was he pacing?
[06:06:41] Did he just sing?
[06:06:42] If you actually supported us, you would start estrogen.
[06:06:44] That's crazy.
[06:06:46] I,
[06:06:50] I,
[06:06:52] I already take DHT blockers for my hairline.
[06:06:57] That's the most HRT you're gonna get out of me.
[06:07:00] But then the other HRT I will do is not force FEM, it's going to be TRT, eventually.
[06:07:10] Down, relaxing.
[06:07:11] No, he was walking around a lot.
[06:07:14] And that's within the home.
[06:07:18] And did he talk about what he had done?
[06:07:22] Didn't go into detail.
[06:07:24] he just I just asked him in person what he said was true the night before and he
[06:07:30] said it was I started crying a little bit and so he wishes he hadn't done it I
[06:07:36] and then kept going around didn't just doing stuff I think to keep himself
[06:07:43] busy or distracted or something. Did he talk about what he was going to do next?
[06:07:54] Man, and then eventually he said that you would talk to his parents or turn himself
[06:08:01] over.
[06:08:04] And when you laughed, see the trapdoor thing was totally just they're saying might be super
[06:08:09] early on because of the angle of the injury.
[06:08:11] And now it makes sense that it was a rigged microphone.
[06:08:15] Stop.
[06:08:16] Hassanabe wine, mom, please look, I think having a conversation about the potential caliber
[06:08:22] of of a another weapon or another shooter is one thing okay but I think like the
[06:08:31] exploding microphone theory is so unbelievably far-fetched
[06:08:41] like I get it Israel did the pager attacks
[06:08:48] No, it was a microphone bomb one thousand percent. Okay. Oh no, I can't tell if chatters are being for real right now or if they're fucking with me.
[06:08:59] Come on. Come on. Come on, guys. Come on.
[06:09:03] What are we doing?
[06:09:05] Was that how you let you left understanding is going to turn yourself in or go to his parents house?
[06:09:10] Yeah, and I didn't really want to be at our apartment wall. Any of those happening regardless of what went down.
[06:09:16] what went down. Okay, before he came home, had you seen the press releases, any of the
[06:09:30] media on this? I'd seen one Instagram like link a friend of mine had sent in our group
[06:09:39] chat. But I hadn't really looked into it at all. And had you seen the images that were
[06:09:45] released of the suspect? I did the next day. I don't think I saw any on the
[06:09:52] tech. I'm going to show you a couple of those images.
[06:10:06] I'm on the FBI's website. You can see the URL there at the top. This is a press
[06:10:13] release about this event and here on the screen you see these there's looks like
[06:10:20] there's two rows of three images. Do you recognize the person in these images?
[06:10:26] I wouldn't say with a hundred percent certainty just because of camera quality
[06:10:31] but that looks like him in terms of the shoes he's wearing the sunglasses. I don't
[06:10:37] think I'd specifically seen him wearing that hat but he was usually wearing a
[06:10:41] And then he ends so.
[06:10:44] It definitely especially the bottom the last 2.
[06:10:48] Definitely do look like him.
[06:10:51] They do look like Tyler Robinson.
[06:10:58] And you talked about that with your friends right?
[06:11:04] His friends. Yeah, I don't know if I talked I don't remember.
[06:11:11] or if I talked about it with any of my friends.
[06:11:14] And then since I have my phone after that for a while
[06:11:17] and I still am not using social media,
[06:11:19] I don't know, on my friends then.
[06:11:23] Okay.
[06:11:25] All right, I want to back up a little bit now.
[06:11:27] We've talked about September tap,
[06:11:28] but let me get a little bit of context here.
[06:11:31] So did you game with Tyler?
[06:11:36] Yeah.
[06:11:36] What kind of games?
[06:11:37] Um,
[06:11:40] played some just kind of party games together, like stuff, anything that would be multiplayer with the friends.
[06:11:45] Lob.
[06:11:51] Group of friends, uh, there was one game you really liked called see if these replays like a pirate and you can, uh, you can fight against people.
[06:11:59] But most of it's just like fishing, fighting sharks, skeletons, kind of stuff.
[06:12:05] We played some co-op games where it's like, you both have to work together to win in whatever way.
[06:12:12] Way back when, like, when I was just out of high school when I first knew him online, we played some, like, shooting games together,
[06:12:23] but I didn't know him very well, so that was just when we had, like, a whole friend group on to play and he was someone that my friends invited.
[06:12:29] Okay. Did you and he ever talk about politics?
[06:12:33] He did more than me. I didn't really still don't really keep up with politics very much.
[06:12:42] I usually talk about stuff you heard on the radio on his drive to work in like their work cars,
[06:12:48] since it sounds like their whole crew went in the same car most of the time. But I wouldn't say
[06:12:56] super consistently, so it wasn't a topic I really contributed much on.
[06:13:00] about Charlie Kirk. Did you ever talk about Charlie Kirk? I personally had never heard
[06:13:05] and talked about Charlie Kirk before specifically. Okay. Um, how about,
[06:13:11] damn, even Tyler Robinson games more than you? Yeah, guess what, dude? I'm not in fucking
[06:13:18] prison right now, at least for the time being. Okay. The moment I start gaming, the moment
[06:13:23] the administration comes after me, this is a, this is for self preservation. Look at
[06:13:30] this first clip, the outline of Israel is literally on the ground. Oh my God. Oh my
[06:13:36] God. Oh my God, dude. What the fuck?
[06:13:50] That's, that's it. That's it. You clocked it. We clocked it. And that, that in the
[06:13:57] Manora Israel Israel did it confirmed
[06:14:07] Political issues, so did you ever talk about gender identity issues and LGBTQ rights?
[06:14:14] No, not not really
[06:14:18] Usually if you did talk about politics stuff it was relating to Trump or current like
[06:14:24] This kind of stuff also doesn't make sense. This reminds me of the Thomas Crookes situation, right? Where it's like,
[06:14:30] you have a guy who's like not that involved in politics doing something so wild.
[06:14:37] Like, what the fuck is happening?
[06:14:40] It's just like, like none of that makes sense.
[06:14:44] None of this makes sense. Okay, I don't understand it.
[06:14:48] you like this this guy is not even like seemingly all that involved in in the realm of politics like
[06:14:56] like doesn't necessarily give that much of a shit
[06:15:01] very important thing about both text messages discord messages that they have time stamps
[06:15:04] the exception is the death penalty case against tyler robinson where text message and discord
[06:15:07] messages no longer have time stamps for some reason
[06:15:18] I mean this is a mock-up and recreation of the text message exchange.
[06:15:26] It has the timestamps 4.33 1.15 p.m. Wednesday 4.33 p.m. Wednesday 11 p.m. Drop what you're
[06:15:33] doing look under my keyboard.
[06:15:37] What you're joking right fuck I tried to delete that.
[06:15:43] I did crime.
[06:15:59] Incredible Opset.
[06:16:00] Yeah, there is none.
[06:16:02] There is no Opset.
[06:16:13] Let's involve them politics equals don't know how to engage in politics normally equals
[06:16:27] think killing is how to do politics.
[06:16:37] Why has the phone been carted in the same place?
[06:16:39] being like issued or voted voted on I think but yeah FD described it in the
[06:16:55] video about Charlie and instead of wanting to do a crime of mass violence
[06:16:57] like a school shooting they would instead want to make a mass scape spectacle
[06:17:00] of violence like a targeted shooting and assassination yeah but even then it's
[06:17:04] like, was this dude fit the profile of someone who was suicidal? You know what I mean? Because
[06:17:13] an assassination is very different than like suicide by cop. And allegedly Tyler Robinson
[06:17:19] was clearly trying to get away with it, which is precisely the reason why it doesn't seem like
[06:17:25] suicide by cop situation at all. But if it's, but assassinations are often highly motivated,
[06:17:39] especially a political assassination is going to be highly politically motivated. So then Tyler
[06:17:43] Robinson's profile doesn't fit the standard of a person that has any sort of like direct revenge
[06:17:49] fantasy here, especially if they're not constantly talking about like, I don't know,
[06:17:53] you know, violence that trans people are experiencing or policies like that and the
[06:18:00] role that Charlie Kirk plays in fomenting violence against transgender people.
[06:18:05] So that's why it's so confusing, because he doesn't fit the normal profile of a person
[06:18:11] like that. Like the Shinzo Abe assassin was very directional, okay? Shinzo Abe's assassin
[06:18:18] knew exactly why he wanted to kill Shinzo Abe, right? There was a very clear goal there.
[06:18:23] There was very clear harm that the assassin's mother had experienced, the assassin had experienced,
[06:18:31] right?
[06:18:33] So, you know, that's why he did it.
[06:18:37] Whereas in this circumstance, it's just like the amount of work that you put in to pulling
[06:18:44] off something like this, you probably need to be very motivated, very motivated by something,
[06:18:51] motivated by anger, very motivated politically, and so many of these like last sequence of
[06:18:58] high profile attempts and high profile assassinations, shootings in general, have been conducted
[06:19:04] by people with indecipherable politics. Now, I don't know if there's a byproduct of just
[06:19:09] being American and not really giving a fuck about politics, but it literally almost always
[06:19:14] gets reduced to, yeah, I tried to kill the president because I'm bored. You know what
[06:19:19] I mean like it doesn't make sense like seeing someone who's like a like a
[06:19:25] radical centrist who hates Donald Trump but also hates like the left flank attempt
[06:19:31] to kill the president at the at the White House Correspondent's dinner you're
[06:19:34] like what the fuck were you thinking it's just people it's just people going
[06:19:41] yeah wanted to do this cuz I'm fucking bored
[06:19:46] So, to be fair, it almost makes sense as to why people think that these are all fake
[06:20:00] assassination attempts, right?
[06:20:03] It kind of makes sense as to why people look at this story and go, something doesn't add
[06:20:07] up.
[06:20:13] Okay, so before that, you have been for a short time. Yes. And I understand you're going
[06:20:31] by doing that at some point.
[06:20:33] Alright, to some people, yeah, but not as an overall thing.
[06:20:47] It's the product of nihilistic irony poison in the communities like mold man spread around.
[06:20:50] Yes, but also this person doesn't seem to fit that bill as well.
[06:20:55] Seems like a pretty fucking straight and narrow cookie cutter,
[06:20:58] white, like, somewhat liberal, Mormon guy.
[06:21:02] You know what I mean?
[06:21:20] Sure, yeah.
[06:21:22] Okay, um...
[06:21:23] I think that's all the questions I have for this portion. Let me check and see if I've
[06:21:31] missed anything.
[06:21:34] It seems like this person was literally out of the world. Yes. It's true. That is exactly
[06:21:39] what happened here. Is there even a history opposing my Charlie and strong feelings about
[06:21:46] him? I don't remember. No. No. And they're not even saying that the Tyler Robinson talked
[06:21:53] much early at all. You said you had crazy evidence that was released today. Second
[06:21:58] month okay. Yeah. And so did you have a job up then? Yeah. Okay. It was in our like we
[06:22:06] had a our apartment. We had a section where we kept all our like random tools
[06:22:10] for household stuff in our like lower basement level pantry. So yeah. Okay.
[06:22:18] And did you give that to him or tell him where it was?
[06:22:20] I just told him where it was, yeah.
[06:22:27] Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and end the recording
[06:22:29] for the 11 of two purposes.
[06:22:33] Thanks, James.
[06:22:34] All right, let's bring in Foxing's contributor
[06:22:36] and retired NYPD inspector and attorney, Paul Morrow.
[06:22:39] 300 days in from when Charlie Kirk's life
[06:22:43] was taken from him.
[06:22:44] And we heard a lot in that courtroom just now, Paul.
[06:22:47] Jesus Christ, almost been a year.
[06:22:49] Let's try to go to a couple of places we haven't talked about.
[06:22:51] We're all very frustrated with how long this process is going.
[06:22:54] I think most of the commentators, if not all,
[06:22:56] agree that we are well over the hump for probable cause.
[06:22:58] Let's recognize what that means.
[06:23:00] Probable cause is the same standard
[06:23:02] under which police make an arrest.
[06:23:04] That just means we probably got the right guy.
[06:23:07] Some people put a percentage on it.
[06:23:08] We don't need to bother with that.
[06:23:09] This is not beyond the reasonable doubt.
[06:23:11] This is not the trial.
[06:23:12] That's late.
[06:23:13] This is the cops do the right thing.
[06:23:15] That's really all this hearing is.
[06:23:17] Other systems and other states,
[06:23:18] they use indictment to double tap it.
[06:23:20] It's just a safeguard.
[06:23:22] So in light of that construct,
[06:23:24] you have to say to yourself,
[06:23:26] Judge Greff, do we not have enough at this point
[06:23:29] to move forward?
[06:23:30] As they say in New York,
[06:23:31] you can indict a ham sandwich.
[06:23:33] That's this is the replacement for an indictment process.
[06:23:36] And the feeling I think among a lot of us is why?
[06:23:39] Why is he letting them have so much latitude,
[06:23:42] particularly the defense,
[06:23:43] because what it does is gives the defense a preview of the prosecution's case.
[06:23:48] And we got a preview of that, and it looks, I mean, incontrovertible,
[06:23:53] just from the text messages alone.
[06:23:55] If you're a defense attorney, how do you defend against that?
[06:23:58] And in terms of it being bound over for trial,
[06:24:01] I think that there's, I don't think that anybody's got an argument that there's,
[06:24:05] maybe the defense does, but I don't think most people would have an argument
[06:24:08] that there's plenty of evidence there to bind it over for trial.
[06:24:11] trial. But do you think that this will go to trial? Do you think that this is just title
[06:24:18] Robinson's defense team led by Catherine Nestor saying they got so much on you, including
[06:24:24] a confession from you, which is backed up by your, your lover.
[06:24:29] Uh, this ain't going to,
[06:24:31] But the fact that it doesn't add up makes it more credible. So many loose ties and unicellular
[06:24:34] questions is not uncommon with natural acts of violence. I don't think it's a cover up.
[06:24:37] I have my own doubts, but it doesn't feel like a patsy for us or Israel assassination and as can this would like to
[06:24:46] Insinuate for views. Yeah, I mean look I like I said, I'm never gonna get in the way of people who think such things, you know, it's just
[06:24:54] It's hard. It's hard to make that
[06:24:58] Counter argument
[06:25:03] Okay
[06:25:07] It's tough. It's out of my hands. Sorry. I tried really hard
[06:25:16] Having said that
[06:25:20] Having said that there is definitely a bunch of stuff that just like doesn't add up
[06:25:24] Like the gun how did it get there? How did it get this assembled reassembled?
[06:25:31] Why did it get reassembled? Why doesn't it show up when he's running?
[06:25:35] in the footage, you know, there's like a lot of stuff that is just like strange. Thank
[06:25:41] God no one listens to you anyway. Yeah, no one listens to me anyway, except for the Atlantic
[06:25:46] and Huffington Post. When I talk about how I blew Mitch McConnell's back out when we
[06:25:51] had sex, you know, I have to leave the stream on mute. Why would you do that?
[06:26:02] you are except potentially that if you lose a trial, you could lose your life.
[06:26:07] Let's cut a deal with the prosecution here.
[06:26:09] Take the death penalty out the table.
[06:26:11] You'll spend the rest of your life in jail, but at least you'll be alive.
[06:26:15] Do you think it could be heading in that direction?
[06:26:17] So I'm going to refer back to the Coburger case because the public is familiar with it.
[06:26:21] That case, I actually came out and said early, I could see a plea deal here because of areas
[06:26:27] that, you know, we don't need to re-litigate that.
[06:26:29] And you know, I got shot it down a little bit.
[06:26:31] I actually called that one right. I'm gonna go the other way on this
[06:26:34] Is Haley Stevens doing a AV not Abdul leading the uncommitted moment, please. I need to hear
[06:26:42] Her say this out loud. I need to hear her say
[06:26:47] Nia Abdul
[06:26:50] leading the uncommitted movement
[06:26:54] Just like Vladimir Putin
[06:26:56] Oh my God, what gives?
[06:27:03] What gives?
[06:27:06] This one, from having been out there, John, seeing some of the atmospherics, and this is just my gut,
[06:27:11] but also how voluminous the evidence is.
[06:27:14] No, I think this one goes to trial.
[06:27:16] I don't think they remember.
[06:27:17] The prosecution controls that.
[06:27:19] And unless there's some procedural problem, somebody really dropped the ball,
[06:27:23] I want to have to deal with it in court.
[06:27:25] The motion comes in, they're on,
[06:27:26] they have their backs to the wall.
[06:27:28] All right, let's cut the deal.
[06:27:29] We'll talk to the defense.
[06:27:30] Short of that, I just don't get the feeling
[06:27:33] that the prosecution is gonna offer a deal.
[06:27:36] I think that they feel like they have,
[06:27:37] as James Galliano said, an open and shut case.
[06:27:40] And let's remember something.
[06:27:41] This stuff we haven't even heard.
[06:27:44] For instance, we know he turned himself in.
[06:27:47] And we know that the sheriff he turned himself into
[06:27:49] in Washington County had a warning
[06:27:52] that he was on the way in.
[06:27:54] If you're that sheriff, you do two things.
[06:27:57] You turn on a body-worn camera,
[06:27:59] and you don't take him into custody,
[06:28:00] you just ask a simple question.
[06:28:02] What are you doing here?
[06:28:03] That's what you gotta do.
[06:28:04] One question, it's not custodial,
[06:28:06] you don't need any Miranda.
[06:28:07] It's human nature.
[06:28:08] You're gonna say, why are you here?
[06:28:10] The kid's gonna say something,
[06:28:12] and I suspect it'll be very incriminating.
[06:28:14] Did that happen?
[06:28:15] I don't know that.
[06:28:15] But I'd like to think there is some,
[06:28:17] I notice at least audio from what I'm being told.
[06:28:19] There could be something that's even more
[06:28:21] a slam dunked in what we got now. I hope it doesn't come out in the hearing. We
[06:28:25] shouldn't hear it here. We should hear it at trial. So no, I'm if I'm sitting
[06:28:28] there right now, if I'm sitting with a prosecution is I go all the way with
[06:28:31] this thing. Wow, just a little bit of color coming from the courtroom as they
[06:28:36] are now in a lunch break. But shortly before that ended, we did hear about
[06:28:41] the reaction from Tyler Robinson as the twigs video, his former roommate and
[06:28:46] lover, we are told, played out, he was intently watching.
[06:28:50] Paul, that's about all I have.
[06:28:53] Yeah, I mean, look, you have to say to yourself here,
[06:28:55] what were his, I don't want to play psychoanalyst,
[06:28:58] but you can see in the text messages, et cetera,
[06:29:01] there was a performative element of this.
[06:29:05] You know, he texts, twigs, talks to him about it.
[06:29:09] There's a level of grandiosity here,
[06:29:12] almost like fulfilling a fantasy.
[06:29:15] And that's how very often crimes do occur.
[06:29:18] We had a good Utah investigator named Mike King on,
[06:29:21] and he explained to us on the weekly rap sheet,
[06:29:24] we're doing a show on this every night,
[06:29:25] seven o'clock live on this case.
[06:29:28] And we talked about the fact that these things start,
[06:29:30] they germinate in the mind of a perp like this,
[06:29:33] is a sort of a fantasy.
[06:29:35] And little by little it becomes normalized,
[06:29:37] it becomes something you can do.
[06:29:38] And I think he saw himself as a hero,
[06:29:40] and I think he saw himself as a hero to Lance Twiggs.
[06:29:44] I'll get that atmospheric again, it's just a cops read.
[06:29:46] Now look, he's innocent until proven guilty.
[06:29:48] I have to caveat us that way.
[06:29:50] But that said, with all of these atmospherics,
[06:29:52] that's my reason.
[06:29:53] Chris, follow up on that.
[06:29:54] Is there any sort of risk then that, you know,
[06:29:57] the defense could make the case that
[06:29:59] Tyler Robinson, you know,
[06:30:01] wanted to take ownership of this,
[06:30:04] of Charlie Kirk's death and shooting,
[06:30:07] but didn't actually do it,
[06:30:08] but presented it to his roommate.
[06:30:09] I'm just thinking of where the defense could go
[06:30:12] in a trial with us.
[06:30:13] Yeah, no, not the uptills on the question that John raised earlier, which is, you know,
[06:30:16] couldn't they say it was somebody else texting with him, et cetera?
[06:30:19] And that's where the fact that you got to celebrate, download from the phone, you got
[06:30:23] the DNA, you're going to be able to put that.
[06:30:26] Remember, we got the note as well under Robinson's keyboard.
[06:30:31] They're going to put that phone in Robinson's hand as well as the guns got the DNA, the
[06:30:36] towels got the DNA.
[06:30:38] All of these things, he talks about engraving, remember the shells?
[06:30:42] All right, and now shells were found with those in great all of that stuff is gonna put it in Tyler Robinson's hand
[06:30:48] I think
[06:30:50] Holy fuck
[06:30:56] News in flavors of intestine amount cool blueberry cool watermelon this one is banger
[06:31:04] No ads
[06:31:06] No hashtag ad
[06:31:08] That's going to be a blind alley for them if they try to go that way or they try this
[06:31:15] idea that there's this second shooter that popped out from some place.
[06:31:18] There's no end to that.
[06:31:20] Can they raise a counter narrative?
[06:31:21] Sure they can, but you have to have some evidence otherwise.
[06:31:24] The water mill only.
[06:31:25] We're not at the training that.
[06:31:26] Bom.com.
[06:31:27] So you can't just conjure a counter narrative out of thin air.
[06:31:30] You have to have something to support it.
[06:31:32] And let's remember something else.
[06:31:33] So I'm going to use the term that was said to me when I was out there.
[06:31:36] They have twigs, quote unquote, right where we want them.
[06:31:41] I was asking physically, where is he?
[06:31:43] He's not in witness protection.
[06:31:45] It's not that kind of thing.
[06:31:45] You do with something like this.
[06:31:47] You've got a key witness.
[06:31:47] You keep them out of the public's eye.
[06:31:49] You keep them away from the media.
[06:31:50] Generally, you use a motel or something.
[06:31:52] I don't want to go into it.
[06:31:53] But the bottom line is, this guy
[06:31:55] is the most crucial witness that they have.
[06:31:58] And yet, he's the romantic partner.
[06:32:00] So they need a lever.
[06:32:01] So what's the lever that they have?
[06:32:03] I can guarantee you, they said to him,
[06:32:05] you're implicated. Did you destroy evidence? Did you do this? Did you do that? And you
[06:32:10] know, they probably scared him rightly so. He starts talking. It's recorded. You make
[06:32:15] sure you do that. That's how this went. Yeah, I want to ask you a question about that in
[06:32:19] a second. But for those of you who aren't intently watching the screen, a little more
[06:32:22] colorful from inside the courtroom and Paul, you mentioned the engraving of the bullets
[06:32:26] apparently while he was watching intently as the Lance Twig's interview was being played
[06:32:31] out in the courtroom, Tyler Robinson became visibly uncomfortable and started squirming
[06:32:36] in his seat when he was talking about engraving the bullets. Now just to refresh folks at home's
[06:32:41] memory and maybe for folks who didn't see that part of the interview being played out, Lance
[06:32:47] Twig's talked about Tyler Robinson saying that he wanted to engrave bullet casings. Didn't say why
[06:32:54] or what he was going to engrave on it. Lance Twig said, well, we've got a dremel if you want to
[06:32:58] borrow that. Anybody who is not familiar, Dremel, is a sometimes it's used for
[06:33:04] crafts, sometimes... I'll add the link but the message is on pictures don't match the
[06:33:08] transcript the FBI released a year ago. It's used for, it's a tool basically if
[06:33:15] you're trying to do something with metal cut it or polish it or engrave it. It's a
[06:33:20] little handheld device where it's got a little rotating bit on the end of it. You
[06:33:24] can engrave things with it. You can polish it, you can sand with it. Um, the fact that
[06:33:29] he talked at length about, and in great detail about Tyler Robinson wanting to borrow that
[06:33:35] Dremel, Lance Twig said, I won't get it for you, but I'll tell you where it is. And apparently
[06:33:40] Tyler Robinson went to wherever it was and picked that up. Uh, he was quite uncomfortable
[06:33:45] according to observers in the court when that testimony was being read out.
[06:33:48] Yeah, I'm surprised. It just straight up doesn't make any sense. Also, are these guys all not
[06:33:53] so subtly implying that the lover is involved in this? Am I am I getting that across like Fox
[06:34:01] News couldn't get their nut off on Tyler Robinson that they're very not so subtly being like, yeah,
[06:34:09] they got them right where they want them. It's like, okay, very strange of you to just assume
[06:34:15] that this is some grand conspiracy. But it's not enough. You got the shooter allegedly,
[06:34:27] but you're like, oh, well, this is a suspected transgender partner. We should just lock them up
[06:34:34] to just, you know, for fun.
[06:34:43] Probably had the atmosphere of somebody getting caught bragging
[06:34:47] because here he is, you know, sort of talking to twigs about
[06:34:51] that. This is obviously very damning evidence. But again, I
[06:34:54] go back to the idea that I think he's beginning to feel first
[06:34:57] of all, obviously the case is closing in on him here. But I
[06:35:01] I think again, he wanted to think of himself as a hero. I think, uh, to the people that
[06:35:06] are potentially politically aligned with him, but also to twigs. And here he is having
[06:35:11] a conversation. It is also pretty wild cause it's like, Oh dude, if you've ever done any
[06:35:16] crime, but you've also been around a trans person, let's just grab the trans person too.
[06:35:21] Is an insane way to operate. You know what I mean? Like they're just like, all right,
[06:35:28] Let's just, let's just log him up too, you know?
[06:35:31] Fuck it.
[06:35:33] Log him up.
[06:35:34] Early private conversation, let's say, with his paramour.
[06:35:39] And here it is now being read out in open court.
[06:35:42] So, and let's remember something else.
[06:35:44] It's a callback to the Manjione case,
[06:35:46] where we saw a similar technique.
[06:35:48] So all these things are very damning.
[06:35:50] Let's remember also, he puts the gun in his own hands.
[06:35:53] He starts telling twigs about, you know,
[06:35:55] I gotta, what am I gonna do about grandpa's gun?
[06:35:57] It's gonna be all over me to get grandpa's gun. It's wrapped up in a towel in the woods
[06:36:01] I got to get back there to get it. Well, the police found it and of course it has this part also is just like DNA and twigs DNA on it
[06:36:09] So, uh, this is the thing that I don't get, right?
[06:36:13] Haley Williams mentioned Paramore. Okay, shut up. The thing that I don't understand is like
[06:36:20] This guy they do everything right Tyler Robbins it allegedly
[06:36:23] does everything by the book like you know plans this whole fucking thing out
[06:36:28] right
[06:36:31] One shot one kill right in the fucking
[06:36:35] writing the jugular
[06:36:38] What the fuck's going on with like leaving the gun in the woods
[06:36:45] Like I don't even understand like what that
[06:36:48] like what is, like how is this so not sloppy on the one hand but so unbelievably sloppy
[06:36:56] on the other hand?
[06:37:00] Why do they act like they haven't been in charges of investigation?
[06:37:02] It's your guys.
[06:37:03] I mean, yeah, it's their homies.
[06:37:04] Again, you know, I just got to go back to the weight of the evidence and if I'm sitting
[06:37:08] with a prosecution is I do not let myself get distracted.
[06:37:11] I go all the way on this.
[06:37:13] If you don't take this case all the way on aggravated murder, I don't know what Utah
[06:37:17] has the statute for. Wow. Um, there's a lot of war. I've been there a lot to
[06:37:23] dig into there. You know, as this continues, I mean, you have to imagine
[06:37:27] these families are all in the courtroom. They're all taking this together.
[06:37:30] They're all probably watching Tyler Robinson, his reactions to John's point.
[06:37:33] We just got some color in the courtroom that he was squirming when his former
[06:37:37] roommate was, you know, talking about the, the engravings on the bullets.
[06:37:42] Paramore. You mean Paramore seems like for the American public watching this.
[06:37:46] I mean, there's this over an overwhelming amount of evidence here from the room.
[06:37:51] Make you mean terrible public gets to see how the sausage is made in our justice system.
[06:37:56] And sometimes it's not that pretty.
[06:37:58] I can assure people without such a public forum and without people sort of play.
[06:38:04] Now, let's get straight to Donner, Kirk, family attorney issues, desperate pleaded judge
[06:38:10] and Joshua Ritter outside of the courthouse there.
[06:38:12] Josh, I'll start with you first.
[06:38:14] We're about to hear probably the most anticipated and crucial piece of evidence in this case up until now. We've heard about DNA and we've heard about the list. We've seen a lot of surveillance, but this is going to be a videotape and audio is probably the only thing we will see.
[06:38:34] It looks like the judges ruled that the video will not be shown to the public or the media.
[06:38:38] media, but we're going to be hearing at least the audio interview of Lance Twiggs, who is
[06:38:43] Tyler Robinson's roommate and romantic partner at the time, where he made what we believe
[06:38:49] are many confessions. We already know that he confessed essentially over text message,
[06:38:54] but now apparently this might include some actual conversations that they had in person
[06:38:59] or over the phone. It could be very enlightening. And again, I think this is why you're seeing
[06:39:03] the defense fighting against this so hard. They've been fighting against this literally
[06:39:07] in court and what won't.
[06:39:09] There's the Don. I mean, what's
[06:39:11] the problem with showing Lance
[06:39:13] Twigs video of Lance Twigs? I
[06:39:14] mean, we know what he looks
[06:39:16] like. We're hearing the audio.
[06:39:17] What's the difference of
[06:39:18] marrying a picture with the
[06:39:21] audio? I agree with you, John.
[06:39:23] There is no difference. It is a
[06:39:25] difference without distinction.
[06:39:27] We're talking about evidence
[06:39:29] coming in and a trial or
[06:39:30] hearing as this is, and as that
[06:39:32] evidence is coming in, we're
[06:39:33] going to have to look at the
[06:39:35] hearing as this is and as that evidence comes in we're going to hear the words spoken and so
[06:39:41] the difference between hearing it and seeing it while we hear it I think is very minimal frankly.
[06:39:47] I do think that the only argument potentially for the cameras being off wasn't really made
[06:39:53] and what that is is Lance twigs himself is not here to testify so therefore the fact that he is
[06:40:00] in this way because hearsay
[06:40:02] is admissible. So the hearsay
[06:40:04] could have come in through a
[06:40:06] police officer through a detective
[06:40:08] through another witness in the
[06:40:10] case. So maybe the judge thought
[06:40:12] if it came in that way, they
[06:40:14] wouldn't actually see him. So
[06:40:16] we're going to let the world
[06:40:18] hear his words, but we're not
[06:40:20] actually going to see him until
[06:40:22] he actually takes the witness
[06:40:24] before they resume in the
[06:40:25] courtroom there, which were
[06:40:26] about a minute away. I want to
[06:40:28] family lawyer Jeffrey Neiman urging the court to let the evidence be seen for the
[06:40:33] sake of the family listen. The Kirk family's waited 10 months for this year
[06:40:37] and they have a right to be here and they have a right to hear the evidence
[06:40:42] they have a right to see and feel what's going on in this courtroom just like
[06:40:47] they want to understand judge what you are what you are viewing they want to
[06:40:50] see the evidence and we understand you have to balance but at a minimum this
[06:40:57] court room needs to be open for the evidence to be displayed openly in this court room,
[06:41:02] for them to see it.
[06:41:04] The Utah Constitution gives them the right to be here and to be here and not to see the
[06:41:08] evidence.
[06:41:09] What's the point of being here?
[06:41:11] A clear display of frustration, Josh, on the part of the Kirk family.
[06:41:17] Absolutely.
[06:41:18] And I agree with everything he says, by the way.
[06:41:21] The United States distinguishes itself from the entire world as standing as a country
[06:41:26] that opens up the doors of their courtrooms and allows cameras in allows the public to
[06:41:30] come in.
[06:41:31] Why should that stop here and now the reason why is this a big story?
[06:41:35] I don't understand.
[06:41:38] It's so strange.
[06:41:39] All right.
[06:41:40] Let's real.
[06:41:41] Let's see what clandestine is saying.
[06:41:42] Let's see what the.
[06:41:43] Okay.
[06:41:44] We're going to do a we're going to peek into the clandestine operations for a brief moment.
[06:41:49] Okay.
[06:41:52] We are going to briefly peek at the other side at America Bee.
[06:41:59] What are they talking about?
[06:42:00] How are they feeling?
[06:42:02] Ben Shapiro's timeline of dishonesty is the name of this video, okay?
[06:42:08] We're going to put our clandestine operator hats on for just one brief moment.
[06:42:13] We're touching our tippy toes in the water.
[06:42:15] You're not diving in, okay?
[06:42:17] Bombed Qatar, which houses a lot of Hamas officials.
[06:42:21] happened here. And if I were to introduce just the skeptical question, will this potentially
[06:42:26] endanger America's own interest in the Middle East? So please, Ben, help me better understand
[06:42:31] the situation. If you don't mind, can you just say something about what the date itself was like
[06:42:36] for you? Yeah. Andrew Colbert at Masonary Times interviewed that Charlie was unhappy about
[06:42:42] a bench group being booked on as well it can be brief yeah yeah I know it's so
[06:42:54] the day before actually I had booked an interview for him that he was not super
[06:42:58] pleased that I booked for him but it was there's good reason for doing it but
[06:43:02] he was he was like you know what I'm tired now and I want to focus on the
[06:43:05] tour tomorrow so you're gonna you're gonna guest host the show tomorrow
[06:43:09] Charlie's voice is not silent.
[06:43:13] We're gonna pick up that bloodstained microphone where Charlie left it.
[06:43:17] Oh God, that's so fucking...
[06:43:20] Oh God...
[06:43:23] They're bringing Ben's old tweets, yeah, I saw this one.
[06:43:26] I would gladly waive the born in USA requirement for presidency for BB.
[06:43:32] Yeah, I saw that.
[06:43:36] Good one, Ben.
[06:43:39] Um, yeah, we'll get to Trump firing all the FTC people.
[06:43:52] Yeah, we couldn't be, frankly, more honored to join you guys as much as we can in the
[06:44:00] fight.
[06:44:01] Thank you for that.
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[06:44:12] Thank you guys for honoring Charlie so well today.
[06:44:14] God bless you.
[06:44:15] For example, Candice Owens.
[06:44:17] I think that what Candice Owens is doing right now.
[06:44:19] Mitch Burd demands Megan Kelly denounce
[06:44:21] Candice Owens on Megan's own show 11, 6, 20, 25.
[06:44:23] It is evil.
[06:44:24] It is evil what she is doing right now.
[06:44:27] Okay, and I say that again.
[06:44:29] But what, I don't know pying on whether it's evil or not,
[06:44:33] but my position is it's really none of my business.
[06:44:35] And why is it, but I have a question.
[06:44:37] Why is it none of your business? I mean you you come on these things for a little bit. I'm not mother of the internet
[06:44:41] No, but yeah, but if this or dude, it's so awesome. These guys are all such vultures. It's so dope
[06:44:47] I'm sorry watching this unfold in real time was cathartic, but
[06:44:54] it's just
[06:44:56] Like they are all such
[06:44:59] Repetious little grifters. They are fucking nasty. They're all so nasty
[06:45:05] the scavenging on the corpse of Charlie Kirk. Okay? Just going crazy mode.
[06:45:12] On the left, and somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of his wife having murdered him, I assumed
[06:45:17] that you would be talking about it. Is that what Candice is accusing Erica of? Yes. When
[06:45:21] Candice Owen says, I don't know no, but I know, that is retarded. And we are all more
[06:45:28] It's hard for having heard it
[06:45:30] My yes, queen underground
[06:45:33] Communists Mormons live in Utah. I watched the secret lives of Morgan wives. I know what's going on here
[06:45:38] After all your personal business is our business is our model Egyptian air wherever you travel
[06:45:47] And you take a breath here
[06:45:50] Because what I'm about to discuss is significantly more serious and truly troubling
[06:45:55] Candace Owens as you may have bro, he's gotta be a scoffing so fucking good though that you like
[06:46:02] Get fired from your
[06:46:05] previous place of employment and you fucking destroy them and they spend every waking moment coming after you and
[06:46:15] Every time they do that they keep losing the argument further and further and you can basically say whatever you want
[06:46:22] As long as you tie it back to Israel, you can just get away with it and that that pivotal issue is
[06:46:29] The reason why you got fired which you happen to be on the right side of even for the wrong reasons, right?
[06:46:35] Cuz like come on get into someone's definitely it's medic. It's
[06:46:40] It's just so crazy to me that she is fucking dabbing on him on a daily goddamn basis
[06:46:47] And every day that they choose to shit on Candace Owens, her power grows and their power diminishes.
[06:46:56] That's got to feel so nutty.
[06:46:58] Pardon me, refer at the top of the show.
[06:47:01] Is an evil, twisted human being.
[06:47:04] At the bottom of that lawsuit from Brian Harpole, it lists a Jacob William Roth,
[06:47:08] a partner of the firm, who also happens to be Ben Shapiro's brother-in-law.
[06:47:12] I remember where I was when all this was happening.
[06:47:14] I was in Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast slash lunch meeting with somebody and my,
[06:47:21] uh, I got the news that Charlie had been shot and my security was on the phone. Charlie
[06:47:26] security. Cause nobody knew what the hell was going on. Well, Charlie was still in the
[06:47:29] back of the car and we were sort of getting updates along the way. Second, there's visual
[06:47:32] timelines that show Charlie's body being carried to a vehicle with the minutes of being shot.
[06:47:35] Apparently he was still alive at the time. Again, I know that only because my security
[06:47:37] was talking to his security in the car.
[06:47:40] And so what is that? That's crazy. So, so hold on now hold on now breaking news breaking news
[06:47:48] Bensherberg just confessed on a show that while Charlie was being transported the hospital and bleeding out to death
[06:47:52] His security was on the phone with Charlie security receiving updates. I knew it. I knew it
[06:47:56] I knew it someone explained to me why during this the minute while Charlie was dying in the backseat of a car
[06:48:00] Charlie's security team was providing updates to Bensherberg's team rather than focusing entirely on saving Charlie's Charlie's life and finding the killer
[06:48:07] I will remind you all that Brent Brian Harpole
[06:48:11] One of the security members who was in that car on route to the hospitals currently suing me and is using Ben Shapiro's lawyer
[06:48:17] Who has sued me relentlessly on Ben's behalf for the last three years?
[06:48:20] Ben Shapiro hated Charlie. Everyone knew that so why the hell was this demon receiving updates in the mere minutes after Charlie was hit
[06:48:28] On route to the hospital who on Charlie's security team betrayed him this way
[06:48:32] Everything Ben did find the assassination made my alarm bells go off
[06:48:35] I have told you guys there's some about daily wire and they're relentlessly stalking of me
[06:48:40] Following my firing that has made me feel altogether unsafe. I've I have felt their obsessive focus on destroying me is deranged and increasingly dangerous
[06:48:47] What did Andrew Colvin mean when he told me it was supposed to be you?
[06:48:51] Why did turning point betrayed charlie so quickly by allowing Ben to open it and fest after declaring immediately that he would pick up
[06:48:58] Charlie's bloody mic
[06:48:59] Why didn't Ben mention this before today that he was receiving status updates while Charlie was bleeding out?
[06:49:04] I clocked that Ben was too invested in this his energy on stage demanding that Megyn Kelly call me evil and his overprotective stance on
[06:49:11] Erica always registered to me as deeply nervous
[06:49:15] Ben Shapiro's satanic everything in my soul tells me he worship Satan literally look at his demeanor in this clip
[06:49:21] We need to find out exactly who on Charlie's team betrayed him by providing immediate updates on this to this paradigm parasite share far and wide
[06:49:28] 61,000 likes my security was oh my god she's insane okay but guess what because
[06:49:41] every person involved in the story is an unbelievable villain she gets to say
[06:49:47] that and then other people actually look at the things that she's saying look at
[06:49:53] Ben Shapiro's reaction and go, wait a minute, she's not wrong. This exact same thing happened
[06:49:59] with Erica Kirk because Erica Kirk is also a businesswoman and, and, you know, another
[06:50:05] bloodless monster for the most part. Okay. When, when Candace, the only reason why a,
[06:50:13] a basket case like Candace Owens gets to make these kinds of theories go unbelievably viral
[06:50:23] is because the people that she is attacking are also freaks.
[06:50:29] Like the tweet, you won't, I can't.
[06:50:31] She blocked me many, many years ago.
[06:50:36] Do you see what I mean?
[06:50:41] Like if we're, so here's the thing.
[06:50:44] Yes, I'm a clandestine operator.
[06:50:48] I'm a clandestine operator and I am,
[06:50:51] I'm a fallen soldier, right?
[06:50:52] like I can't like the tweet because the clan Denise does, I know we're all one. We're united
[06:50:59] where we go, one, we go all. Unfortunately, Candace always blocked me many, many years
[06:51:05] ago and she's never unblocked me. And we just simply can't communicate for that reason.
[06:51:13] Okay. But anyway, do you guys see what I'm saying though? Cause like, Erica Kirk is like
[06:51:19] very obviously, like Erica Kirk, very obviously reacted to the assassination of her husband
[06:51:29] in a way that like a normal person would not react because there's Erica Kirk, the wife
[06:51:34] and mother. And then there's also Erica Kirk, the businesswoman. And she locked in and went
[06:51:39] business mode so fast that every normal human being that was looking at this went, what the
[06:51:44] fuck, why should I care about this if you don't? Right? That's number one. And that's
[06:51:50] precisely the reason why a lot of people started looking at Candace Owens's reaction.
[06:51:55] And they were like, well, you are reacting in a way that is perhaps a little bit more
[06:52:01] normal to a close friend's passing. The gruesome assassination of a close friend, a confidant,
[06:52:08] maybe even a lover, who knows, right? Whereas Ben Shapiro's reaction was also
[06:52:18] just as cold and as calculated. Now, I don't know if that's because he's got, he's like,
[06:52:24] super autistic. I don't know if he just doesn't give a shit about Charlie and wanted to use this
[06:52:30] to his advantage, right? But I do feel like I showed more humanity than even Ben did.
[06:52:42] You know? So I guess, yeah, Dean cried more than Ben Shapiro did. Like, what are we talking about?
[06:52:48] Dean reacted to the Charlie Kirk assassination with more emotion than Erica Kirk did.
[06:52:54] It's like up there with Candacella's number one, Dean number two, me number three, Erica
[06:53:05] Kirk is like number 15, Ben Shapiro bottom of the barrel.
[06:53:12] So he cried, she cried, we crowed.
[06:53:22] So my point is, that's the reason why Candace gets to cook all of this up.
[06:53:31] If these guys were normal human beings, if they were normal human beings, Candace would
[06:53:37] not be able to cook up these theories against them, because everyone would be like, what
[06:53:40] the fuck are you talking about?
[06:53:41] Ben didn't immediately try to take over Durning Point USA moments after Charlie Kirk was
[06:53:47] assassinated.
[06:53:48] He did.
[06:53:49] He did do that.
[06:53:50] He immediately did that.
[06:53:51] He was like, oh, it's my time to shine now.
[06:53:54] Finally.
[06:53:55] Like, you know what I mean?
[06:53:57] Like, that's crazy.
[06:53:58] There's a crazy thing to do.
[06:54:00] So obviously, it is like, my opinion on all the stuff is,
[06:54:07] like my honest opinion on all those stuff is,
[06:54:09] I don't think it's like Israel that killed Charlie Kirk
[06:54:13] because Charlie Kirk's gonna turn on Israel.
[06:54:15] I don't believe any of that stuff.
[06:54:15] Obviously I've said it over and over again,
[06:54:17] but I'm not gonna stop people from thinking it.
[06:54:20] If you want to believe it, I can't stop you, right?
[06:54:24] I've tried my best.
[06:54:25] People don't listen to me, right?
[06:54:27] Unless I'm talking about blowing Mitch McConnell's back out as gay lovers.
[06:54:31] Only then do people take me seriously.
[06:54:33] Only then people listen to me.
[06:54:34] So.
[06:54:39] But what I will say is this, the reason why Candice has been able to dominate
[06:54:46] this discourse so successfully and become the carrier of the flame unironically is because she showed humanity.
[06:55:02] Okay? The way you repeat this multiple times I feel like some people threaten you to say this to say what?
[06:55:10] Why did you take Mitch from campus?
[06:55:22] Look, look, Mitch is the power bottom, okay, of the come hungry variety. We're not going to get
[06:55:31] into that. That's not the point that I'm making right now. The point I'm making right now is
[06:55:36] Because if any of these people were like normal human beings and they reacted as though normal
[06:55:43] human beings do and didn't immediately go into performance mode, okay?
[06:55:53] If they showed humanity in this moment, if they didn't immediately see dollar signs in
[06:55:59] the way that Erika did and the way that Ben did, then I think Candace always would not
[06:56:05] have been able to make a convincing argument. But because these guys are horrible people
[06:56:10] in general, and they saw this as an opportunity to lay ownership, like a lay ownership stake
[06:56:18] in turning point USA, to be the person that Charlie Kirk was, you know, to take that,
[06:56:24] to take that role on immediately. Most people's reaction in the Charlie Kirk fandom, most
[06:56:30] people's reaction in, uh, in, in the Charlie Kirkiverse was, yeah, I don't believe any
[06:56:37] of you guys. I believe Candace Owens. It's that simple. Okay. That's it. That's it. They
[06:56:54] they did this to themselves. Anyway, we're moving on from the, from the Kirkiverse, uh,
[06:57:01] someone called Haley Stevens, someone called the Haley Stevens office and, and Frank called
[06:57:06] him as Haley Stevens. Let's take a look.
[06:57:08] Good afternoon. This is the office of Congresswoman Haley Stevens. How may I assist you?
[06:57:13] Hey, can you tell me where Robert is?
[06:57:16] Robert?
[06:57:17] Yeah, my chief is saying this is this is Congressman Steven. I need to talk to Robert right away.
[06:57:26] That's not I can I can do a better job. No, I can't. I can't do I can't do the Haley Stevens yet, but I will I will be able to
[06:57:36] to. Nanny Maroud! What gives? What gives?
[06:57:46] Oh, okay. I'm going to please shut up.
[06:57:48] Brief hold.
[06:57:49] Thank you.
[06:57:52] Oh, my God. There's no way she bought that, right?
[06:57:57] Hello, I just need more information.
[06:58:00] I'm calling again.
[06:58:01] This is Congresswoman Stephen. I'm really, I was talking to United
[06:58:05] health care and they asked me if I can make it popular to like denying claims for millions
[06:58:11] of Americans. God, Abdul smoked me last night. It was horrible. Can I talk to Robert?
[06:58:19] We don't have a rumor in this office. It's my secret chief of staff that works for Palantir.
[06:58:25] He gave me the money for ice. He gave me the donation because I like to thank ice. Remember
[06:58:31] remember when I thanked ICE?
[06:58:33] You got a hang up.
[06:58:35] Did the hang up? Yeah.
[06:58:37] A few moments later.
[06:58:39] Man, we can still hear you on the line.
[06:58:41] Are you going to make a comment?
[06:58:43] I'm going to make a comment to my friends
[06:58:47] in the Palantir lobby because last night
[06:58:49] Abdul made it look like I supported
[06:58:51] ICE and I said I don't support ICE
[06:58:53] and I just wanted to make an apology saying that
[06:58:55] I did not mean to offend
[06:58:57] any of the ICE contractors I took
[06:58:59] money from and I wanted to tell Robert that but I'm in my cups and I uh I got
[06:59:06] lost on the Gordy Howe bridge again son of a bitch. I love that. Behind me is the
[06:59:15] Gordy Howe bridge. It's closed right now. Right here is the Ambassador Bridge.
[06:59:23] that one's open the Gordy how bridge Maddie Maroon Trump's biggest donor
[06:59:35] Trump's biggest donor Maddie Maroon
[06:59:43] Well thank you so much for calling us, I'm from Haley Stevens.
[06:59:48] I am Haley Stevens.
[06:59:50] It's real, comes to me in my dreams.
[07:00:03] You've been stimming actually hard this month, I just, I love, I, I love Haley Stevens'
[07:00:09] voice so much.
[07:00:10] We're not going to burn anything down. Is that the message we want to send?
[07:00:15] Yeah!
[07:00:17] Well, uh, okay then.
[07:00:28] You need stim toys again so badly.
[07:00:33] As a Michigan, Michigander, your imitation of a God awful accident is hilarious.
[07:00:40] Sometimes she also throws in a little like shuh noise where it doesn't fit.
[07:00:51] You know what I mean?
[07:00:56] Like, I don't know why she does that, but she does that sometimes. It's very weird.
[07:01:00] Um, 90% of our S sounds or show sounds. Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know why she does that,
[07:01:18] but I love that she does. Israel comes to my mind dreams. This was the biggest lie Erica ever told me.
[07:01:28] Sean Ryan clips. There's a Gedeon situation. What the hell? What the hell? There's another
[07:01:41] thing I wanted to cover. I just read Haley Stevens is wiki. What do you mean? Dana Nessel
[07:01:56] official year of the wedding. He got arrested, GD, I got arrested for what? This person thinks
[07:02:07] she's fake.
[07:02:08] Why do you think Stephens talk like she's like a mob villain in a Jimmy Stewart movie?
[07:02:12] I say you got a vote blown, I'm out of holes for the Michigander, is she saying?
[07:02:17] He does not talk like that.
[07:02:19] That's my goat.
[07:02:21] Coming to King, you best not miss.
[07:02:27] Trespass and stalking?
[07:02:31] What is this?
[07:02:32] I got to say, it would be so nice to have a governor in this incredible state, one of
[07:02:38] the most beautiful states in the union, especially this time of year.
[07:02:42] I love Wisconsin.
[07:02:43] You guys say Wisconsin, love Wisconsin, but we have got to
[07:03:01] Gross
[07:03:07] God don't ever attempt humor ever again man don't ever do that
[07:03:11] Did you know Gedeon is a multi-millionaire?
[07:03:14] Yes, I assumed.
[07:03:17] This was cool.
[07:03:18] Deadly Bacteria found a major U.S. cities water system trace back to Mark Zuckerberg's $800 million data center.
[07:03:24] That's cool.
[07:03:26] I don't know why that was open.
[07:03:29] We looked at MSG. We looked at Mitch McConnell having sex with Margaret Qualey. Yeah, there's
[07:03:44] the AI testing. Hold on. Oh, I wanted to look at this. This was crazy. Big themes this year.
[07:03:55] The loyal left tribe serves from 60% 21% taking from other left center tribes.
[07:04:01] Nationalist party crashed from 30% 2024 to 20% 2026, tracking with a crash in support
[07:04:07] for tough immigration enforcement from plus 36 in 2024 to plus 6 in 2026.
[07:04:14] Last year, the big story was a long-term collapse of the free market economic conservatism
[07:04:17] that stabilizes year, but it's still at multi-year lows.
[07:04:20] What we've seen instead is a shift from the populist to liberal quadrant.
[07:04:27] Most of the shift has been social and not economic, and a lot of it has been immigration.
[07:04:30] Support for tough enforcement is at multi-year lows.
[07:04:34] Evidence of thermostatic public opinion for Trump solving or Trump solving the border.
[07:04:39] What does it mean for 2026?
[07:04:40] We can actually isolate three voter tribes that are moving double-digit towards Democrats,
[07:04:43] moderate, right, non-magid, and army Republicans.
[07:04:47] New Republican populist, a smaller group that's actually economically left and socially right.
[07:04:50] young and disillusioned, the swing voter version of a Bernie bro, very socially liberal anti-establishment,
[07:04:56] but doesn't trust the government to fix economic problems.
[07:04:59] Yeah, loyal right picks up one point, staunch conservatives across the social and economic
[07:05:05] spectrum, who also take consistently anti-establishment positions, skews older and male, moderate
[07:05:10] right picks up two, take right leading positions on most issues, but trust experts support
[07:05:15] free trade in our pro game marriage and believe there are obstacles for women.
[07:05:18] New Republican populace down two points to 6%, socially to the right and economically
[07:05:23] to the left, Medicare for all, abortions for none, rural heavy, very anti-establishment
[07:05:27] and pessimistic.
[07:05:29] Middle American optimists, middle of the road on most issues, pro-choice and optimistic
[07:05:32] about the ability to get ahead through hard work is at 11% drop three. Young and disillusioned,
[07:05:37] young female and racially diverse, skeptical of regulation, but for a robust welfare state,
[07:05:43] the most anti-establishment of the Harris voting clusters, American institutionalists
[07:05:46] down one point
[07:05:48] uh... at eleven percent firmly pro-establishment
[07:05:53] cluster is unified by a belief of the system basically works from faith in
[07:05:57] hard work police in the u.s. economic system
[07:06:00] electability democrats left leaning on most issue but the verse from the
[07:06:04] unpopular living positions like the fun the police and trans athletes and
[07:06:06] sports
[07:06:07] and the loyal left at the largest
[07:06:10] chunk
[07:06:11] of voters in the country
[07:06:13] the name says it all socially and economically liberal largely pro
[07:06:16] establishment obviously those
[07:06:18] this is stupid this is a stupid way to describe it they would
[07:06:21] this is our
[07:06:23] this is us
[07:06:25] okay
[07:06:32] Yes, I'm going to do icing Houston in a second. Hold on after this. And no, we are not pro
[07:06:47] establishment and we're not liberal socially and economically. They just haven't been able
[07:06:51] to catch up to the, they haven't been able to catch up to the, to the actual way to define
[07:06:58] this group, okay? I mean, this looks pretty fucking good. There's obviously a level of
[07:07:07] further radicalization, but it's also an area where you can pick up, okay? The irony is some
[07:07:15] of the moderate right, you could potentially pick up regardless of like their right-leading
[07:07:21] positions in support for free trade. You can pick them up for being pro-LGBT or pro-LGBT,
[07:07:28] and pro women or at least like recognized in misogyny.
[07:07:32] There's definitely pickup here for the Medicare for all abortions for non-rural heavy voting
[07:07:37] block as well, because Medicare for all covers these guys quite a bit, because these people
[07:07:43] are the new Republican populace are also usually the anti-Israel coalition as well.
[07:07:53] I would go so far as say the hardest people here.
[07:07:57] The hardest people to pick up here are these guys, the Loyal Right, which is at 18%, which is MAGA, right?
[07:08:05] The Super MAGA.
[07:08:09] If you drop the T, how are you still a dem blows my mind?
[07:08:14] Um, I mean, these guys are right wing.
[07:08:16] I'm just saying.
[07:08:21] The D plus 14 from the new Republican populace is in line with the average we've seen in the last special elections in 2025.
[07:08:27] Yeah, the evangelical Christians, that's not going to happen, right, for the most part.
[07:08:35] But yeah, the rest is just straight up. The rest right here, all of these are quite literally
[07:08:45] easy pickings. The rest is literally either going to excitedly vote for an AOC-style candidate
[07:08:53] or maybe have some concerns on the electability front, but once that's the candidate, it's
[07:08:59] over. You know what I mean? You get out of the primary. These are loyal blue dem voters.
[07:09:05] So this looks really fucking good for, uh, DSA and DSA adjacent candidates, left populist
[07:09:13] candidates. This proves that the electorate, at least by my estimation, the electorate
[07:09:19] has broadly shifted to making demands left populist candidates and making demands of
[07:09:28] change in the leftward direction.
[07:09:31] As long as the hyper focus on the conversation is not on edge cases that you don't need to
[07:09:37] compromise on it.
[07:09:38] All by the way, I'm not saying you should be like never talking about trans people or
[07:09:41] just like, you know, compromise on trans people or trans existence or trans protections in
[07:09:46] general.
[07:09:47] But as long as you're not, as long as you are doing the Zoramumdani method of sticking
[07:09:52] to kitchen table issues in a way that Democrats normally don't, in a way that Democrats normally
[07:10:00] do not, okay?
[07:10:02] Because they don't actually say Medicare for all.
[07:10:04] They don't actually say fuck Israel.
[07:10:06] They don't actually have universality attached to their programs.
[07:10:11] They always do this means tested garbanzo beans bullshit, right?
[07:10:16] As long as you stick to universality, kitchen table issues, a direct and easily definable
[07:10:24] and easily understandable way that you are going to improve people's lives.
[07:10:27] You say Medicare for all, housing for all, federal jobs guarantee things of that nature,
[07:10:32] and people hyper-focus on that, you can win a good deal of these people.
[07:10:38] Now, part of the reason why the Democrats stick to social issues and only talk about
[07:10:43] social issues in particular, is because they don't have any investment or any interest
[07:10:50] in identifying these problems and offering real solutions, okay?
[07:10:56] Like genuine sweeping reforms in any meaningful fashion.
[07:11:01] They don't want to do that because their bread is buttered by these very same corporations
[07:11:05] who would destroy their profit margins if you were to actually advance this left economic
[07:11:11] agenda, right?
[07:11:13] And that's precisely the reason why they hyper-focus on the social issues.
[07:11:16] And oftentimes they focus on it from a defensive posture that almost feels like you're embarrassed
[07:11:22] to be defending trans people, which also makes you look insincere.
[07:11:27] And it makes you look like you have no confidence in the issues that you're advocating for.
[07:11:31] So you don't even win any people over to your side.
[07:11:37] The one exception that I will have to this rule is Andy Bashar.
[07:11:41] Bashar is a liberal, Kentucky governor, very popular, right? But Andy Bashar is very convincing
[07:11:49] on these issues. He is the king of communicating on trans issues, where he's like, those are
[07:11:53] God's neighbors, those are God's children, I respect them, right? And you should too,
[07:11:58] you should apologize to those, you know, God's children instead of, you know, mistreating them
[07:12:04] in the way that you have. So he does a really good job with that. He is very convincing.
[07:12:10] Most Democrats are not convincing. Most Democrats are just like,
[07:12:13] ugh, I really don't want to fucking talk about trans people, but yeah,
[07:12:17] I'm going to do bottom surgeries on Guatemalan migrants at a detention facility.
[07:12:20] I don't fucking know. What do you want from me? Ah!
[07:12:22] And then they get caught. And because they're wishy-washy on the issue to begin with,
[07:12:26] because their allegiance is conditional to begin with,
[07:12:29] they're very quick to drop those issues regardless, right?
[07:12:36] They're very quick to drop those issues. And then when you drop those issues,
[07:12:39] then you look like a fucking hypocrite. You lost everybody at that point, right? So a couple
[07:12:47] strategies, free ball, that I will always give to anyone that's listening, if you're
[07:12:52] a fucking consultant or whatever, here's free money for you, is focus on AI data centers. AI
[07:13:00] data center moratorium is an absolute banger. Focus on redistributing your profits from those
[07:13:05] data centers and also giving people autonomy, giving people a say on where these data centers are put
[07:13:11] and also what the negative impact of these data centers are going to look like in their neighborhoods.
[07:13:17] No jacking up the electricity prices, right? Like normalizing the grid to make sure that
[07:13:22] these things are built in a way where it doesn't have these negative consequences.
[07:13:26] That is the data center moratorium package. And I think that's a really good concept. That's another
[07:13:32] 90-10 issues similar to Israel were like the overwhelming majority of the overwhelming majority
[07:13:39] of voters, not just in the Democratic primaries, because there's a lot of investment on the
[07:13:43] other side here as well. Yeah, anti-flocke surveillance technologies, another great one.
[07:13:50] Data centers is a great one. Israel-Palestine is a great one, obviously. These are all issues
[07:13:56] where moneyed interest has made it so that they're untouchable, that most politicians do not place
[07:14:03] the interests or the needs of the population over the interests of corporations on these issues.
[07:14:08] There's a lot of, there's a lot of like discretion behind how these local politicians end up
[07:14:19] signing off on these data centers. I saw, I watched a video of a constituent that
[07:14:27] asked their local representatives like how, whether or not they had signed an
[07:14:34] an NDA for a hold on whether or not they had signed an NDA. Let me see if I can find this
[07:14:50] video really quickly. There was a video I watched. It was like really messed up. Oh, here it
[07:14:55] is. Here it is. Here it is. In a hearing where residents grilled officials on data centers,
[07:15:00] A resident of Tyrone Township in Michigan asked a simple question.
[07:15:04] Have you signed an NDA with any party regarding developments that could affect
[07:15:08] the town? The majority of townships officials refused to answer.
[07:15:10] Signed any NDA, any agreement or had any private communication,
[07:15:15] such as meetings, phone calls, text messages or emails with any developer,
[07:15:20] company, landowner or representative regarding any current or potential
[07:15:25] project that could affect Tyrone Township.
[07:15:28] Christopher.
[07:15:29] No.
[07:15:30] Dean no Jennifer
[07:15:37] I can ask you whatever I want don't tell me what I can say
[07:15:41] But you're communicating with me Jennifer again also, it's really funny for her to say that this is not the time and place
[07:15:46] This is literally the time and place where your constituents are asking is question time
[07:15:52] Okay, so no this is actually the time and the place to do it. She's she didn't pick it
[07:15:58] She didn't grill you at the fucking country club. You know what I mean?
[07:16:02] so
[07:16:04] So yeah, I mean it's pretty damning and and there's a reason why they have to do this like cloaking daggers bullshit
[07:16:10] Right because a lot of the people are very frustrated. They don't want this to happen
[07:16:13] but a lot of the local politicians are signing off on it and
[07:16:18] This has caused a lot of enmity. So again, it's another issue. It's another unbelievably salient issue
[07:16:25] issue where the population wants one thing, no data centers in their backyard, but the
[07:16:30] local politicians and the politicians at the federal level that are invested in these corporations
[07:16:37] or at the very least are advancing the interests of these corporations over the interests of
[07:16:41] the public are doing something entirely different.
[07:16:45] Okay?
[07:16:46] They're doing something entirely different.
[07:16:50] And it is important for us on the left as democratic socialists, as left populists to
[07:16:59] identify these problems for the people and address their concerns.
[07:17:02] It's very important for our movement to make sure that we keep hammering this point across.
[07:17:07] I'm not just talking about it as like an electioneering thing.
[07:17:10] I'm not talking about this because it's really good to win elections or anything like that.
[07:17:15] I'm talking as this is a very clear,
[07:17:19] identifiable goal that will go across party lines
[07:17:25] and bring a lot more support to your side, okay?
[07:17:34] It's 90-10 amongst the public.
[07:17:36] It's 10-90 amongst the politician class,
[07:17:39] the political class, okay?
[07:17:41] Remember that.
[07:17:42] So, yeah, I think that there is a great opportunity for this movement, as long as they prioritize
[07:17:52] these sorts of things.
[07:17:53] Brad Landers is also already getting into it.
[07:17:55] Across-country communities are rising up to fight back against AI dentists and there's
[07:17:58] poison in the water, overloading their energy grids, the threats being posed by these facilities
[07:18:02] to our environment, our jobs, our democracy, and our humanity are too massive to go unchecked.
[07:18:06] The future belongs to all of us, not just Mark Zuckerberg and AI oligarchs.
[07:18:12] What is this opinion if I were I don't think you'll guess the author is in a thousand tries. What is this?
[07:18:21] If I were a non-ju I would today prioritize opposition anti-Semezons
[07:18:25] I prioritize black feminist and gay issues as a non-black non-woman and non-gay civil rights advocate back in the day
[07:18:32] I have no idea who this is oh
[07:18:38] My god, it's Alan Dershowitz. Oh my god
[07:18:42] Oh my god, it's Alan Dershowitz. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Huge get for an opinion piece.
[07:18:52] Dershowitz really changed the whole international child rape industry, which as we all know is the
[07:18:56] number one answer like where you're publishing to an ever-evaporating audience. Oh my god,
[07:19:05] it's Alan Dershowitz. I cannot believe it. I can't believe that they're like, I need to hear from Alan
[07:19:11] dirtier it's on any issue
[07:19:18] yet the average republican voters literally maximalist against data centers they'd literally
[07:19:21] want to nuke them it's crazy and no republican will ever fucking push for that
[07:19:27] no republican will push for that
[07:19:29] there are also a lot of republicans that don't fuck with israel
[07:19:32] and there are those who you can absolutely convince
[07:19:35] by saying
[07:19:36] your
[07:19:37] your potholes are fucked
[07:19:39] your roads are fucked, your infrastructure is crumbling,
[07:19:41] we just sent another $10 billion to Israel.
[07:19:43] They go, I get it, that's fucked up,
[07:19:45] we shouldn't let that happen.
[07:19:47] Okay, it's that simple.
[07:19:49] Okay, it's literally that simple.
[07:19:52] It's free money, it's free ball.
[07:19:54] The only problem is that obviously when you
[07:19:58] frustrate and offend these very powerful corporate forces,
[07:20:01] they come after you,
[07:20:03] you know, they'll make your life a living hell.
[07:20:06] They'll smear you, they'll slander you,
[07:20:08] They'll tell everyone not to vote for you.
[07:20:11] They'll tell everyone you're a bad person, blah, blah, blah, all this shit.
[07:20:15] And it's really insincere, but the way you push past that is obviously with a
[07:20:20] reliable and solid ground game through disciplined organizing.
[07:20:24] Another one, another issue that I'm going to dovetail into is ice.
[07:20:30] Um, the ice problem has not gone away.
[07:20:32] I know that we haven't talked about ice as much on this broadcast.
[07:20:36] Okay. As of late. Anyway, but obviously, ICE is still a terrifying menace on many communities,
[07:20:50] many neighborhoods. And we are of course going to be talking about what ICE did in Texas.
[07:20:58] Okay. There were three men or four men, sorry, in a van. I believe they were undocumented
[07:21:13] migrants. They were workers in a van in Texas, in Houston, Texas, and they were driving around
[07:21:25] as a federal agent, shot and killed, uh, the, the person driving the van who is, uh, was
[07:21:34] an undocumented Mexican man, uh, in his van during a traffic stop in Houston. This happened
[07:21:40] last Tuesday. Okay. The government rushed to follow a familiar template just as it had
[07:21:46] after other shootings. The department of homeless G released this statement, insisting that
[07:21:50] the man Lorenzo Salgado, I don't want to say his last name wrong. Lorenzo Salgado, Arajo
[07:22:01] had weaponized his vehicle against the officer who then justifiably opened fire. That's what
[07:22:06] their claim was. DHS offered, of course, Arayo Joe, Arayo, Arayo.
[07:22:16] Yeah, so here's what took place. Once again, another unjustifiable act of murder and broad
[07:22:26] daylight, same script, DHS lies about the situation, says that he was weaponizing his
[07:22:31] vehicle. There were three other people in the van with the now deceased man, and they
[07:22:38] presumably could recount their version of what happened. The victim's brother and two
[07:22:42] employees of the dead man's construction business. They were detained by
[07:22:45] immigration's accustomed enforcement during the encounter and we haven't heard
[07:22:49] from them publicly about what happened. So they have three witnesses to the
[07:22:53] crime that they're actually holding currently on top of everything else. The
[07:22:59] son of Loresa Solgado, the Houston man who was shot and killed by an ICE agent,
[07:23:03] went on Aaron Burnett on CNN and talked about the situation. Let's take a
[07:23:09] Look news. We have new surveillance video that we have just gotten in. And what this shows is the crucial moments before Lorenzo Salgado Arajo, the father of three, who was fatally shot by an ice officer in Houston on his way to work on Tuesday morning. So what was happening here is that he was driving a crew to a home building site when he was killed.
[07:23:30] Uh, uh, there you go.
[07:23:35] You see it about five seconds later, like SUV driven by ice, begins to follow him.
[07:23:41] And this new video comes as a source with preliminary details about the
[07:23:45] incident says that Arajo was not the target of their operation this morning.
[07:23:51] Now that's extremely significant for many reasons, but one of them is this, an
[07:23:55] earlier statement from DHS to describe the incident as a quote, targeted
[07:23:59] enforcement operation. So it was targeted and then said that Arajo was attempting to
[07:24:04] evade the arrest. Now, the video that we'll show you here posted on Facebook is how his
[07:24:09] son says he learned of how Arajo died that day.
[07:24:13] According to one, Arajo, that's how I said it. Arajo.
[07:24:17] These are terrible details, but important to know that he was screaming and he was in
[07:24:21] pain and he was screaming, help me. They shot me. Arajo had lived in the United States
[07:24:28] for 30 years. He has no known criminal record out front. Now run out. Yeah. The first crime
[07:24:34] here happened for the last 30 years. The first crime is not and before people say, Oh, you
[07:24:44] wasn't, you didn't have his paperwork yet. The first crime is the crime by the federal
[07:24:48] government for not issuing this man the proper paperwork to continue working legally on U.S.
[07:24:54] soil. Okay. The recent crime, the much more severe crime is of course the Gestapo thugs
[07:25:02] of the state assassinating him in broad daylight and then also lying with impunity.
[07:25:07] Paldo Salgado. He is Lorenzo Salgado, Rajo's son. And he's joined tonight by Juan Pranio,
[07:25:13] the CEO of the League of United Latin American Citizens who has been supporting the family.
[07:25:18] Yeah. Ariana Jasmine says, for 35 years Lorenzo Salgado, Rajo woke up at five AM and billed
[07:25:24] homes across Houston had no criminal record but was still fatally shot by an ice agent and on
[07:25:28] Mark Carr on his way to pick up his construction crew Tuesday morning this is America and immediately
[07:25:34] people go enter in the country legal is a criminal offense your entire argument gone 35 years ago
[07:25:37] when he crossed the border try again the fucking punishment for border crossing especially 35 years
[07:25:43] ago but even now is not murder okay it's not people that respond this way are fucking animals
[07:25:53] Okay, you are an animal. You are lower than animal. You are not an animal actually. An animal has
[07:25:58] has at least like some self-preservation skills. An animal has a higher degree of morality than
[07:26:04] these fucking dildos do. And advocating for workers like Arafo. And that kind of stuff,
[07:26:11] like that kind of sentiment used to happen all the time. It would happen on 4chan. It would
[07:26:16] happen on poll. It would happen on, you know, different discord servers, things like that.
[07:26:22] It's just mass disseminate disseminated and brought daylight nowadays. It's so fucking annoying. You did perpetuate rape culture. What? What the fuck are you talking about?
[07:26:32] I'm so sorry to even have to share with people the pain your father was in in those moments.
[07:26:42] I'm sorry for your shocking and staggering loss, but you are choosing to speak out because
[07:26:48] you want people to understand what happened to your father.
[07:26:51] Can you please just share as best as you understand what happened?
[07:26:55] Yes, ma'am.
[07:26:57] Thank you for having me.
[07:27:02] happened was at around seven o'clock I was notified by my mom that my dad was in
[07:27:08] trouble. We didn't know what it was but we suspected it to be an ICE related
[07:27:12] incident. What I don't know is like I don't know of that was my only thing
[07:27:22] going for me you know that was my only piece of evidence. Five minutes later I
[07:27:27] got into the car and tried looking for him at his work site about an hour away
[07:27:30] north Houston until I got the news on a Facebook page that you know there was
[07:27:37] ICE activity very nearby to where we live and as far as I know I didn't know
[07:27:46] that it was my dad I had to go check it out for myself and unfortunately I saw
[07:27:51] my dad's van but I did not see my dad at all I stayed on site at you know the
[07:27:58] The police recorded not the street, blocked out the street.
[07:28:00] I stayed on site for several hours asking any and all officers
[07:28:05] and members of the public that were there for answers
[07:28:07] as to where my dad is, if anything.
[07:28:13] Yeah, it's been really tough.
[07:28:15] Yeah.
[07:28:16] Yeah, I truly, obviously, can only
[07:28:20] imagine the pain that you're in and your family is in.
[07:28:23] I understand, Ronaldo, you did share
[07:28:26] some footage of the last time that your family saw your father when he was alive because
[07:28:31] he was going, as you said, to his work site, as he does every day. You mentioned it's in
[07:28:34] North Houston. So there he is, your dog, normal morning, right? Loading his work van. That
[07:28:41] video that you shared with us is 5.54 a.m. So then that surveillance video that I showed
[07:28:48] everybody where he's passing in his van is at 6.46 a.m. And then, as I said just a few
[07:28:54] moments later, you see that unmarked black SUV following behind. That's just five seconds
[07:28:59] later. So by 6.48 a.m., ring camera footage from the area shows what appeared to be federal
[07:29:07] agents standing over people detained on the ground next to the van. And I says the encounter
[07:29:15] with your dad happened moments later. I mean, the timeline here is incredibly compressed.
[07:29:22] seems to have happened so quickly? Yes, it did. There was a lot of stuff in flux happening
[07:29:33] at the time. As you saw in that footage and you know, I would like to correct it. It was
[07:29:41] two vehicles. I saw two vehicles right there. Unmarked vehicles without any sirens, without
[07:29:48] any markings on any of the vehicles. It's just everything happened so fast. By the time I was
[07:29:59] already in North Houston, it was around like eight o'clock, eight something. I hadn't heard about
[07:30:03] anything else until I again. By the way, the probable cause that the DHS will push for this
[07:30:11] is targeted enforcement operations, right? That's what they say.
[07:30:14] It just means racial profiling. That's all it is. They look in a car, they see that it's a van,
[07:30:22] they see that there's a brown guy driving it, and that's enough to set them off.
[07:30:28] And if they're feeling like they want to murder that guy, they get away with it. That's it.
[07:30:35] That's literally all this is. Yes, a Kavanaugh stop as it's called.
[07:30:39] and I opened the Facebook page, the Southeast HTX news page,
[07:30:45] and that's where I learned a possible ICE activity,
[07:30:48] and I had to go check it out myself.
[07:30:51] So I want to understand, Juan, let me just
[07:30:54] ask you a question here.
[07:30:57] The preliminary details that a source shared with us
[07:31:01] says that Ronaldo's father was not
[07:31:04] the target of the operation.
[07:31:06] Was not the target of the operation.
[07:31:08] And then I emphasize that because the earliest statement from DHS said that it was a targeted
[07:31:14] operation.
[07:31:15] Okay, so what do you make of this contradiction, but at first they said it was targeted, and
[07:31:19] then they're saying that Mr. O'Racher was not the target?
[07:31:25] Well, what it tells me here is that, you know, DHS and I have been playing by a familiar
[07:31:30] playbook.
[07:31:32] The initial description of the events and what happened were very similar, eerily similar
[07:31:37] to what happened to Roday Nicole Good, right?
[07:31:41] There was a confrontation.
[07:31:43] The vehicle was used as a weapon.
[07:31:45] The police officer basically shot himself to fence, and now ICE is having to walk back
[07:31:51] the information that they provided, now saying that he was not a target.
[07:31:56] Now even we've heard that there was confusion in regards to a similar looking vehicle as
[07:32:01] well.
[07:32:02] And so the fact of the matter is we do not believe ICE, we do not believe DHS at all.
[07:32:08] We do not trust that the FBI will actually conduct a thorough and independent investigation
[07:32:13] and we are seeking and asking for a few things.
[07:32:17] Number one, we want a truly independent investigation to actually happen.
[07:32:22] We're also demanding the body of Lorenzo to go back to his family.
[07:32:27] They're still not in possession of it.
[07:32:29] In addition to that, we're requesting that all information that can be used as evidence
[07:32:33] to be retained as well.
[07:32:36] And so this is just the start of the process.
[07:32:38] It is a tragic, tragic series of events for a man, a family man, a provider to his children
[07:32:44] and his wife of over 40 years that should have never happened.
[07:32:49] Renato, I'm...
[07:32:52] Yeah, they're lying about everything, okay?
[07:32:57] They're lying about everything.
[07:32:58] They're lying about like the car was used to ram the ice engines. Like it's all fucking
[07:33:03] bullshit. It's always bullshit.
[07:33:09] Ice officer is not wearing body cameras during deadly Houston. I shooting says department
[07:33:13] of Homeland Security three hours ago, three hours ago, family says dad was scared and
[07:33:17] wanted to protect his tools, workers before deadly I shooting.
[07:33:21] Harris County district attorney speaks with family after learns of Solgado shot and killed
[07:33:24] by ICE. Houston law enforcement will not be involved in the investigation in a deadly
[07:33:30] shooting involving ICE, of course. He did not deserve to die as family and community
[07:33:35] leaders. Yeah. And on top of that, we now know that there were three other men who were
[07:33:44] in the van with the victim and the ICE shooting and their potential witnesses, but they're
[07:33:47] now under pressure to self-deport. A rep for the families tells me they remain in detention.
[07:33:53] as ices story falters the families of the same man who were in the van with the dead
[07:33:56] man are being represented by Juan, uh, Toronto Lula. He tells me the families have been able
[07:34:01] to contact them in detention. They're being pressured to sign self deportation orders.
[07:34:05] So they literally are, they, they murder this guy. There's three other witnesses and they're
[07:34:10] trying to get the witnesses out of the country immediately. And because they have tremendous
[07:34:17] power over their freedom currently, they can probably get them to sign off on this.
[07:34:28] It's like, again, this is not reformable. Yeah, one of the men is his brother. Yes.
[07:34:38] One of the three men is his brother. That kid that you're, the young man on the left,
[07:34:43] If I recall correctly said that his uncle was one of the three men in the car. It just
[07:34:49] Wanted houses any different Israel. It's not
[07:34:53] It's not
[07:34:55] Stopped right there on one thing that Juan just said
[07:34:58] This happened on Tuesday morning and your family still does not have your father's body
[07:35:04] That's correct, man
[07:35:07] And Aaron look so DHS says yeah, yeah, good
[07:35:11] All of the personal identifiable information was taken from Lorenzo before he was put in
[07:35:19] the ambulance.
[07:35:20] When he arrived at the Bentop hospital, he was checked in as a John Doe.
[07:35:26] As a John Doe, Aaron, the families had to go through extra hurdles to do a biometric
[07:35:32] forensic verification that it is his father.
[07:35:36] They didn't actually get a notice that he has deceased until the following day, all the
[07:35:42] time knowing that his father was there in the hospital and had been shot earlier that
[07:35:46] day.
[07:35:48] Who does that?
[07:35:49] I mean, in what world do we live in where someone would remove all identifiable information
[07:35:54] and provide no context and information for Ronaldo who was on the site in direct conversation
[07:36:00] with the FBI?
[07:36:02] They dragged him along, they strung him along and didn't give him the information that he
[07:36:05] he should have had immediately as his son.
[07:36:12] This is why it's not just abolish ice. This is why it's punish ice, okay? Hold ice accountable.
[07:36:21] We have to, we have to bring back fucking law and order into this goddamn country, okay?
[07:36:28] crazy. These people are lawless bandits. They're thugs. The way that they're operating is completely
[07:36:38] unacceptable. It is ripping apart the social fabric that is holding us together. We can't go on like
[07:36:45] this. We have to abolish ICE and we have to punish ICE straight up so that no other law enforcement
[07:36:53] agency ever tries to do something like this again, no matter who's in charge, okay?
[07:37:00] You get another despot in charge that tries to even fucking entertain doism like this
[07:37:04] immediately.
[07:37:05] The people, the law enforcement that is supposed to carry out those tasks go, no, I'm out.
[07:37:12] I can't do it.
[07:37:13] I'm sorry.
[07:37:16] They have to be made an example of otherwise we have no laws.
[07:37:20] DHS also said Juan mentioned this a moment ago because he mentioned
[07:37:25] the comparisons to what happened to Renee Good earlier this year in Minnesota
[07:37:30] But the DHS had said your father used the vehicle as a weapon. I just want to give you a chance to respond to that
[07:37:37] Allocation that they put out there initially
[07:37:42] Look I I know my father
[07:37:45] He had a
[07:37:47] His main concern was to keep the van safe and his tools safe.
[07:37:52] There's been instances in the past where his van got stolen and his tools got stolen.
[07:37:58] So ever since then, he's been very cautious about people following him, people looking
[07:38:02] at his van a little bit too much.
[07:38:04] So along with that, my dad was also in the process of obtaining a work permit.
[07:38:12] He decided that it was time for him to achieve his American dreams after putting three kids
[07:38:16] through college.
[07:38:17] I'm sorry. So he had been informed and we have spoken as a family time and time again.
[07:38:25] What my dad should do in the case that he did get detained by ICE. He did not know that those vehicles following him were ICE agents.
[07:38:37] Again, these vehicles were unmarked. They had no emblems, no logos, no flashing lights.
[07:38:42] lights, there was no way for him to know that they were ICE agents. I know my dad would have stopped,
[07:38:48] had ICE agents formally and clearly identified themselves, at least through their vehicle
[07:38:54] markings. My dad would have stopped and complied because he knew that there was a process,
[07:39:00] that there was a process for him to be able to get, for him to be able to be released from any
[07:39:06] sort of the tension, or at least, you know, there would be, there would be ways for him to,
[07:39:14] you know, come back to us if that were to happen. My dad, again, he would have stopped,
[07:39:21] had ICE very clearly identified themselves to their vehicles.
[07:39:25] No, no, I'm just so very
[07:39:30] So we did try to hit those event. No dog. Ice did ice instigated it. You can see in the fucking footage
[07:39:38] Random fucking black cars running up. No lights. They start fucking ramming into your van. Do you not understand?
[07:39:48] I'm very sorry to you, your, your mother, your mother and your siblings for such a,
[07:40:00] as I said, staggering and unimaginable and sudden loss.
[07:40:04] So sorry, I appreciate you choosing to speak out and one, thank you very much also for
[07:40:09] making sure people understand the story and about your father, Ronaldo.
[07:40:13] Thank you both.
[07:40:14] Like, I don't know how I was to be clear about this.
[07:40:18] I don't know how to explain this to people who just don't understand it.
[07:40:20] Like ICE goes up to a random van.
[07:40:23] They openly admit it's not even the right van, right?
[07:40:25] After the fact, they lie about how the person driving the van was actually, uh,
[07:40:31] you know, driving in an irresponsible manner, tried to ram the van into their cars
[07:40:35] or something like that to, to create a scenario by lying where,
[07:40:41] where, uh, lethal use was justifiable, right?
[07:40:45] There's three other witnesses in the car.
[07:40:47] those thriller witnesses are now in the custody of the group that killed this person. The body is
[07:40:53] still in their custody. They're controlling every aspect of this. Local law enforcement can't even
[07:41:00] investigate the situation. This is a direct crime that local law enforcement is refusing to prosecute.
[07:41:06] Another instance where a unaccountable federal agency has come into your town and assassinated
[07:41:13] one of your neighbors in broad daylight in the middle of the fucking day in the middle of the morning
[07:41:20] and local law enforcement is not doing anything about it and the other witnesses the first hand
[07:41:25] eyewitnesses of the crime are slated to be deported from the country.
[07:41:36] It's insane.
[07:41:40] What are people supposed to do?
[07:41:43] Also, video appears to show no damage to the vehicle of the man, ice killed in Houston,
[07:41:50] who had lived in America peacefully for 35 years despite ICE's claim that he rammed an
[07:41:55] ICE vehicle to try to run over an agent.
[07:41:56] These people are not credible.
[07:41:58] You can see Salgado here making a U-turn.
[07:42:01] There it is right there.
[07:42:03] The white van makes the U-turn as you're going to see the unmarked car here in black trying
[07:42:08] to force the car going the opposite direction.
[07:42:12] This is right before Salgado is ultimately shot.
[07:42:17] You're going to see the SUV.
[07:42:18] Pull over.
[07:42:19] Here's a closer look.
[07:42:20] In front of the van after the truck passes by,
[07:42:23] Salgado makes the U-turn.
[07:42:25] He reverses for a moment.
[07:42:26] He heads west, him over.
[07:42:29] You can see Salgado here making a U-turn.
[07:42:32] There it is right there.
[07:42:34] The white van makes the U-turn as you're
[07:42:37] going to see the unmarked car here in black trying
[07:42:39] to force the car going the opposite direction.
[07:42:43] Now this is right before Salgado is ultimately shot.
[07:42:48] You're going to see the SUV pull over.
[07:42:50] Here's a closer look in front of the van
[07:42:53] after the truck passes by.
[07:42:54] Salgado makes the U-turn.
[07:42:56] He reverses for a moment.
[07:42:58] He heads west, him over.
[07:43:00] You can see Salgado here.
[07:43:05] Here, video appears to show no damage
[07:43:06] to the vehicle of the man.
[07:43:08] Ice killed in Houston who had lived in America peacefully 35 years by ice claim that he rammed
[07:43:12] an ice vehicle.
[07:43:15] Operation.
[07:43:16] Ice claims Lorenzo Salgado Arajo rammed a law enforcement vehicle with his van and tried
[07:43:20] to run over an agent.
[07:43:22] And Ice says their agent fired in self defense.
[07:43:25] They claim Lorenzo Salgado Arajo wasn't authorized to be in the United States and he died at
[07:43:29] the hospital operation.
[07:43:37] the ice cars unmarked. I mean, that's the whole thing. That's the whole problem, though you think.
[07:43:44] Unmark cars, unmarked agents. It just looks like a bunch of thugs, a bunch of criminals
[07:43:53] that are trying to steal potentially your supplies from your work van.
[07:44:01] They probably know something we don't. Man, what the fuck are you talking about? No, they don't.
[07:44:05] What what what is this? Why is it that your first?
[07:44:10] Assumption especially after I've done this a million times over your first assumption is to think oh well
[07:44:14] I'm sure they had a good reason to fucking murder this person
[07:44:21] They literally admitted it was the wrong cars the wrong person the fuck's wrong with you and
[07:44:28] They've lied every single time they've murdered someone they lie every single time dude federal agents just wouldn't go after this guy
[07:44:34] Are you are you fucking brain dead dude? Of course they have they've done this every time. Are you living on the same timeline as us?
[07:44:52] This is genuinely shocking to me you think this is the first time this happened. What are you fucking stupid?
[07:44:58] it. Doug, the only reason why we know about this is because the news is covering it. Okay,
[07:45:07] they do it all the time.
[07:45:18] I like that this barf maxing, your assessment is the only thing holding society together
[07:45:24] at this point. Luckily, I guess, for American future, there are so many people who just genuinely
[07:45:33] abide by a hope and a dream that like there is a good reason for all of this, that institutions
[07:45:39] are, they must be working, right? Like they're federal agents. Doc, they're federal agents
[07:45:45] that got no fucking training whatsoever and don't have any accountability whatsoever. Many of the
[07:45:50] former federal agents openly admitted that there's just like this culture of ultra violence
[07:45:55] within the system, uh, where, where, you know, people do heinous things like people amongst
[07:46:01] the, the members of ICE, amongst their regs have done such heinous things that they had
[07:46:04] to fucking quit because they were like, this is ridiculous.
[07:46:07] And you're over here being like, no, I'm sure there's a good reason for it.
[07:46:10] I think you're cherry picking to be honest.
[07:46:14] The only cherry I'm picking is your fucking brain, dude.
[07:46:17] It's gotta be the size of a walnut.
[07:46:23] What the fuck do you mean I must be cherry picking this?
[07:46:26] You have the amount of faith, the amount of confidence you have in this fucking Trump
[07:46:33] administration is the reason why you get as fucked all the time and you go, I don't know
[07:46:39] why my butt hurts.
[07:46:40] You walk around thinking, I don't know, it's probably fine.
[07:46:44] I don't understand how you can live your life like this.
[07:46:46] I genuinely don't get it.
[07:46:48] I don't understand it.
[07:46:49] You're the type of dude who's like,
[07:46:51] yeah, Donald Trump made a $1.6 billion in cryptocurrency gains.
[07:46:57] Just off the transaction fees alone, that's probably fine.
[07:47:01] That's probably good.
[07:47:06] You okay?
[07:47:09] Things are just happening all around you all the time
[07:47:11] and you just have no concern whatsoever
[07:47:13] for your own safety.
[07:47:16] These motherfuckers don't even participate in the regular legal system. What are you talking
[07:47:21] about? I think you're cherry picking that he says. What do you mean cherry picking? First
[07:47:28] of all, this is an instance where the law is violated by law enforcement. So by definition,
[07:47:35] it's not cherry picking. It's a crime. Okay? You can't literally just like, you can't look
[07:47:41] Look at a situation where like a rape happened and go, did your cherry picking is just one
[07:47:48] rape.
[07:47:49] You know what I mean?
[07:47:50] That's not cherry picking.
[07:47:51] That's a fucking crime.
[07:47:52] We're covering a crime that took place, you fucking idiot.
[07:47:58] Now once there's a pattern established because of an unaccountable part of federal law enforcement
[07:48:04] that is greatly overstepping its bounds and is now constitutionally protected to do so
[07:48:10] Directed by a despotic tyrant like Donald Trump to do this to soothe the the
[07:48:17] Unlimited appetite for violence for ultra violence against the the brown and black masses the permanent underclass of this fucking country
[07:48:24] You arrive at this crazy predicament that happens all the fucking time. It's not cherry picking is pattern recognition
[07:48:32] That's crazy. And it's not like this is a secret. They are being directed to do this,
[07:48:41] just like they were directed to go to Minneapolis to punish the people in an occupation.
[07:48:52] Wake up, dude. I don't understand how anyone could look at a situation like this and be like,
[07:48:57] this is a society I want to live in where a random dickhead with like 25 days of fake training
[07:49:04] can just pick up a gun and shoot my father in the fucking face and I will never have justice
[07:49:10] and I will have no accountability whatsoever and then half a society will look at it and go yeah
[07:49:15] I probably deserved it because if it can happen to this person it can happen to you too they've
[07:49:20] killed white people too we saw how the government treated those white people that were assassinated
[07:49:25] they call them fucking terrorists. What makes you think you and your life will be spared?
[07:49:35] Have some fucking self-preservation if you can't see the humanity of others, if you just simply
[07:49:40] assume while they're brown so they might have deserved it, just have some fucking self-preservation
[07:49:45] skills is what I'm saying, like even an animal, even an animal seeks shelter, even an animal
[07:49:50] knows to hide when the weather conditions are bad. You are not even an animal. You're
[07:49:56] something different. You're like an amoeba. You look at a situation where masked agents
[07:50:05] of the fucking state are doing the worst criminal thing you can do, which is unlawful murder
[07:50:12] in the middle of the goddamn day and you're like, yeah, it's probably fine. It's fine.
[07:50:17] won't touch me. What the hell? I don't get it. I genuinely don't understand. I don't
[07:50:30] understand how you look at a situation like this is an American citizen. And you you see
[07:50:38] this devastating reality. Oh my god, it's actually just their job. Okay, now this guy's rage
[07:50:48] bidding, right? Is this a, is this a Asmongole viewer? Why haven't we looked of his chat,
[07:50:54] his chatter and Asmongole? This has got to be like a European Asmongole viewer or something
[07:50:58] who's like a big time fan of Rupert Lowe or whatever the fuck. He's got, you know, he's
[07:51:05] He's not, he's not, as we go through, this is one of my own, just a real genuine dumbass.
[07:51:14] It's actually their job, okay.
[07:51:18] Their job shouldn't exist, okay.
[07:51:22] Let's just start there.
[07:51:23] This is at most a paperwork violation.
[07:51:26] It's a civil offense, okay.
[07:51:29] So under no circumstances, a civil offense deserve any level of violence.
[07:51:34] Okay?
[07:51:35] At most, you're supposed to go to their house and go, hey, your paperwork is not in order.
[07:51:42] Please fix it.
[07:51:43] Okay?
[07:51:44] So that's the job.
[07:51:47] So that's number one.
[07:51:50] Number two, dude, someone has to keep track of who's coming in.
[07:51:55] I'm going to lose my fucking mind.
[07:51:57] Did I say no one has to keep track of who's coming in?
[07:52:00] No, I didn't.
[07:52:01] You just made that up.
[07:52:03] Okay?
[07:52:06] There is a mountain called Everest between someone has to keep track of who's coming
[07:52:13] in and we should let random high school dropouts murder brown uncles on the fucking street
[07:52:20] with no accountability.
[07:52:22] Holy fuck.
[07:52:24] fuck are you lobotomized what the fuck's wrong with you no one said everyone
[07:52:34] should come in free for all and and no one should be punished for it you fucking
[07:52:42] made that up
[07:52:54] How do you arrive at this conclusion? You watch a guy get murdered in broad daylight and you have such confidence in this administration of all administrations.
[07:53:04] This federal government, you have such confidence in that you literally turn around and you're like, I don't know, I mean, someone's gotta keep track of people coming in.
[07:53:13] No one said that that's not appropriate. Okay?
[07:53:17] are you fucking stupid? I mean you are, I know you are. This is the dumbest argument that I've ever
[07:53:24] fucking heard in my entire life. Ice is probably a little bit, barely a little bit older than you
[07:53:35] as a fucking agency. What? I didn't say you said it, Haas. Would you prefer flock did it? Lock?
[07:53:47] what the fuck does this have to do with flock you god damn cattle
[07:53:52] brother you're getting beta for clips clips of what
[07:53:55] the guy behaving in the most medically stupid way possible
[07:53:58] what the fuck with what the fuck on a clip so you're gonna get out of this
[07:54:05] first of all
[07:54:06] they're already deploying flock you fucking idiot
[07:54:08] you're already being master veiled regardless
[07:54:11] how are you anti-flock but your pro ice those two things work hand in hand you
[07:54:16] a fucking moron. What the fuck's wrong with you? He's like, oh, I'm actually against mass
[07:54:24] surveillance from the federal government. But the level of mistrust I have for the federal
[07:54:30] government as a tool of mass surveillance, I have unloaded unlimited confidence in its
[07:54:36] dumbest individuals that have guns and can kill people with impunity and I will defend
[07:54:41] So you have insecurity when you think about the fucking federal government operating a surveillance state by way of flock cameras
[07:54:49] But you have unlimited unlimited confidence in ice
[07:54:55] What the fuck?
[07:54:58] How does that even work?
[07:55:07] It's so strange
[07:55:11] I hate mass surveillance, but I love murderous federal agents that kill with impunity.
[07:55:21] Incredible.
[07:55:27] Anyway, that's all I got for today.
[07:55:36] Holy shit.
[07:55:37] That was unbearable.
[07:55:38] There's only one of them affects him personally, yes, but a federal government that gets to
[07:55:44] do that, a federal government that gets to do that, the Lorenzo Salgado can do that to
[07:55:49] him too.
[07:55:50] He's just too stupid to realize it.
[07:55:52] That's the problem.
[07:55:53] That's why I said you have no self-preservation skills.
[07:55:58] When you justify a system of violence like this, an unaccountable force that gets a kill
[07:56:03] with impunity, you are signing off on your own fucking death sentence, okay?
[07:56:15] That's it.
[07:56:18] An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
[07:56:23] If you can't see it, if you can't recognize the human life that was taken, okay?
[07:56:31] If you can't recognize the criminality, if you can't recognize the humanity of this person who was slain,
[07:56:35] then think about it from the perspective of self-preservation.
[07:56:39] Think about it as, you know, survival skills.
[07:56:43] You can, there is a selfish argument here as well.
[07:56:47] I've given up on trying to explain the humanity of others to some of these people because they fucking wear their sociopathy on their sleeve like it's a fucking cool thing.
[07:56:57] Like it's a virtue.
[07:56:59] But there is also a self-interested argument here as well that this is completely unacceptable.
[07:57:08] Anyway.
[07:57:10] Alright everybody, hate to leave it on that now, but that's the note I'mma end it on for today.
[07:57:15] Love you all, and I'll see you tomorrow.
[07:57:20] Peace everybody.
[07:57:29] All the chatter's tricklin' in, I'll sell people hate
[07:57:37] Sonny Los Angeles, California says her son
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