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07-10-2026 · 7h 25m

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[00:00:00] I made a handful!
[00:09:00] I
[00:10:00] I
[00:10:30] PASAN PIKER
[00:10:47] PASAN PIKER
[00:10:48] Socialist, Communist, Radical Left Influencer
[00:10:51] PASAN PIKER
[00:10:52] Dirtbag Left
[00:10:53] PASAN PIKER
[00:10:54] Pro-Terrorism, Pro-Hamas
[00:10:55] PASAN PIKER
[00:10:57] PASAN PIKER
[00:10:58] PASAN PISAN
[00:10:59] Hassan, Hassan, Hassan, Hassan, Hassan, Hassan,
[00:11:02] Haker, going on this vulgar rant, mocking wounded
[00:11:05] Orvett for losing his eye fighting for our freedom.
[00:11:10] Have you ever heard someone mention the Strysand effect
[00:11:12] and wondered what they were talking about?
[00:11:14] This phenomena is named after Actress Barbara Strysand.
[00:11:18] Sometimes when you try to cover something up,
[00:11:20] you end up bringing more attention to it
[00:11:22] than if you had just let things be.
[00:11:24] He won't take that, Hassan!
[00:11:25] Why do you call me when I say it?
[00:11:27] The Assemblyman will not denounce Hassan Piker, who said,
[00:11:31] America deserved 9-11, dude.
[00:11:33] The Assemblyman will say in his response,
[00:11:35] Hassan Piker says America deserved 9-11.
[00:11:39] There you go.
[00:11:40] There you have it.
[00:11:41] My friends, we have toppled a political dynasty.
[00:11:44] Now to the Michigan Senate race,
[00:11:46] where Elsai Ed is campaigning in Michigan,
[00:11:49] appearing on stage at two Michigan campaign rallies.
[00:11:52] He's co-actively campaigning alongside Piker.
[00:11:54] The man who said,
[00:11:55] Hezbollah's flag is his favorite, because it's dope.
[00:11:57] Why would you align yourself for a raging and a semi-frights?
[00:12:01] Who has defended Hamas terrorists?
[00:12:03] Calling them the lesser of two vests,
[00:12:04] Israel's compared to the government,
[00:12:05] people's compared to...
[00:12:06] Lesser of two.
[00:12:07] That's what I find a bridge too far.
[00:12:10] When I went up to my good friend, Chad,
[00:12:13] and said, hey, can you walk me through
[00:12:14] some little controversial statements of a son, Piper?
[00:12:18] Even Chad, he thinks he went out of his way
[00:12:20] to scoff in the edges of a son and give me context.
[00:12:24] Thanks, but no thanks.
[00:12:26] Chats, I think it is.
[00:12:27] The song, Piker, is campaign poison.
[00:12:29] Placing yourself on the wrong side of a 9 and 10 issue
[00:12:31] is only gonna make you look bad.
[00:12:33] It's gonna be good for me.
[00:12:34] It's gonna be good for the candidates that I work with.
[00:12:37] Turns out it was true.
[00:12:38] Abdul al-Sayed at 27% over largely.
[00:12:43] Meila Kuros, everybody.
[00:12:44] Nice to meet you.
[00:12:44] Welcome to the broadcast.
[00:12:46] Thank you for having me.
[00:12:46] Oh my gosh.
[00:12:48] What's going on, man?
[00:12:49] What's up, dude?
[00:12:50] See ya.
[00:12:51] That was me enjoying it, yeah.
[00:12:52] How are you doing?
[00:12:53] He's trying to get me out of there.
[00:12:54] Wow!
[00:13:00] What's going on, everybody?
[00:13:01] Hello, everyone. I'm in a fantastic evening, afternoon, freedom.
[00:13:05] No matter where you are in the world, I'm Sam Pyker in this class,
[00:13:07] and I broadcast coming to you live from sunny California, Los Angeles,
[00:13:12] from Stolen Tonga, Melland, coming to you live and alive.
[00:13:17] Ladies and gentlemen, boys, girls, and embies, the tansuit is back.
[00:13:21] you already know Obama style. This is a new tan suit. Kyle Kalinsky fit is what people are saying.
[00:13:28] Many people are saying we had to get the summer suits out for the boys. It's summer time. But
[00:13:35] ladies and gentlemen, boys, girls and MBS were alive. We're alive. And I hope everyone's having
[00:13:40] a fantastic one because today's a beautiful day. Today's a wonderful day. Today's a very special
[00:13:46] day, you already know what kind of day it is and I'm just going to get right into it. Folks, folks,
[00:13:55] it's a very special day. And is it perhaps because I just shot the podcast this morning?
[00:14:04] Is that the reason why? Because that's the reason why I'm late. It's 11 20, right?
[00:14:09] Is that the reason? Or is it a very special day because
[00:14:16] Is it a special day because I worked out in the morning and did some back up or back feeling pretty good about that back looking peeled?
[00:14:25] Is that the reason?
[00:14:27] Or is there a different reason Brazil tie?
[00:14:32] I did not intend for this tie to mean anything beyond the fact that it looks good.
[00:14:40] Is it a special day because I had some phone sex with Mitch McConnell last night?
[00:14:46] Well, it's it's all of the above but more importantly perhaps. It's a very special day as
[00:14:53] it is
[00:14:55] Very special day every time this day comes every week
[00:14:59] Ladies and gentlemen boys girls and mvs. It's Friday
[00:15:04] You already know what it is is Friday of four fathers
[00:15:07] fought long and hard to make sure in the trade union movement, the labor movement, and the anarchist movement,
[00:15:13] the socialists, the communists, they all got together and they fought to make sure that we have a five-day work week, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:15:19] Four, four bearers, not four fathers, whatever, four scores.
[00:15:26] That's right, ladies and gentlemen, we're live and alive, and we celebrate the Friday and the turning of the week,
[00:15:31] of the week, turning over to the weekend, a sense of autonomy, a sense of purpose, a
[00:15:35] sense of humanity that you were gained. If you like the weekend, thank the union ladies
[00:15:40] and gentlemen, and you already know, we will always celebrate the Fridays, the Vibes are
[00:15:46] going to be immaculate, the fit is immaculate, and that's right.
[00:16:01] No, you didn't, but he did. Um, this is the part of the broadcast where I tell you about
[00:16:07] my personal news about what's going on in the world of a song house and I'll be piker
[00:16:11] and let me tell you the reason why I'm actually late.
[00:16:13] This is why I'm party. The lea, the reason why I'm delayed is, is for good reason. Um,
[00:16:19] first and foremost, uh, full house, full house today.
[00:16:25] back from Turkey. Okay, LTI not gonna lie. Not sure why you're saying that, but the words are hurtful.
[00:16:36] So let's get started. First, that's back from Turkey. Brought a bunch of his old suits and
[00:16:43] whatnot. I'm wearing one of his ties. Okay, I'm wearing one of his ties right now.
[00:16:49] know, um, he brought a bunch of snacks as well, a bunch of Turkish snacks.
[00:16:55] So that's not good.
[00:16:56] But, uh, you know, as always, I'm a shut ass loser that hasn't changed.
[00:17:02] Um, and, you know, this is yet another shut ass loser moment for me hanging out
[00:17:09] with dad, Austin is here as well.
[00:17:11] My mom was here.
[00:17:12] We're just, you know, we are, uh, we were just, uh, sitting around.
[00:17:19] And and talking and hanging out
[00:17:26] Now
[00:17:29] That was the
[00:17:31] That that's the the long and short of it
[00:17:34] Nothing else going on in my life as always as you guys know
[00:17:38] but outside of that
[00:17:40] Outside of that I woke up super early this morning
[00:17:44] woke up super early this morning to go work out and
[00:17:46] and got to work out in, got a quick workout in,
[00:17:50] and then immediately after the quick workout,
[00:17:53] I went and shot the podcast.
[00:17:57] We were shooting the podcast earlier,
[00:17:59] and that's why I am a little late, okay?
[00:18:06] That's right.
[00:18:08] I'm a little late for that reason.
[00:18:11] Also, also, I saw that my USA Today
[00:18:16] interview finally came out. Very contentious interview. This was shot long time ago. Very
[00:18:22] excited to watch that. Thank you. I saw the numbers guy thing. I have a DSA pin as well.
[00:18:27] It's backwards, left hand shaking. Cool.
[00:18:34] Will we, Charlie chirp today potentially? We'll obviously be following along with the
[00:18:39] the, the, the Kirk, the Kirk, Kirk, you Asian, the Kirk, you Asian, um, count bin face, count
[00:19:02] bin phase. Um, Matt, he says the quiet part out loud. Uh, yeah, we'll, we'll look at all
[00:19:09] that and more. All right. Anyway, there was some drama about leaked evidence. People he
[00:19:18] he what? You've got to be fucking kidding me. They're doing AI polling now. Oh yeah. No,
[00:19:28] awesome. I love asking AI, who's the better option? We should just all be AI.
[00:19:39] What is this? Israel shared intelligence with the US of Iranian plot to assassinate Trump's
[00:19:43] sources today. We'll take a look at that and more. But yeah, that's it for the personal news.
[00:19:53] Vibes are immaculate. Let's get into it. Let's get it twisted. Not much going on in my life. As always, you already know I'm a shut ass loser, but it's Friday, so we're going to have fun.
[00:20:03] Cease far over, but negotiations continue. Situation monitor. Kirk Trial continues as conspiracies grow. Ice kills Texas men.
[00:20:20] Uh, eyewitnesses, dispute, DHS statement, um, get in now, uh, we'll do Friday, Monday afterwards,
[00:20:37] okay?
[00:20:38] Um, but yeah.
[00:20:41] USA Today Anti-Semitism Debate.
[00:20:50] What gives?
[00:20:53] Yeah, USA Today came in hot.
[00:20:57] USA Today came in real hot.
[00:21:01] And that was like a very contentious interview for some weird reason.
[00:21:09] Uh, but, uh, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll take a look at that.
[00:21:13] We'll start there potentially there.
[00:21:16] Mr. Hassan Abbey, would you record a Turkish line for my band's album?
[00:21:19] Thank you for your time potentially.
[00:21:23] This looks like a stock photo used for, uh, law firm website.
[00:21:27] Yeah.
[00:21:29] Yeah.
[00:21:29] They cooked my ass.
[00:21:32] And they straight up Nick Fuentes, the soundbiker, click by click.
[00:21:35] anti-Semites who goes mainstream. And it's actually kind of crazy that they just straight
[00:21:39] up make that comparison. They compare me to like James Fishback. They compare me to Nick
[00:21:44] Fuentes. It was kind of, it was kind of nasty. But we'll, we'll look at it. We'll look at
[00:21:53] it. We'll watch it. But yeah, it is a genuinely an unbelievable, like it's, it's just going
[00:22:05] to come across is like a silly attempt to conflate anti-Semitism with anti-Semitism,
[00:22:11] I think. But I don't know. We'll see. We'll watch.
[00:22:18] But yeah. Told you it was a waste of time arguing with these people.
[00:22:23] Um, bros USA today is a shit rag with a thing for trying. I'm always trying. I always try.
[00:22:37] I always try in good faith and it turns into something really fucking stupid. Also speaking
[00:22:45] of which, speaking of combating antisemites and clavicular is in Israel and is collabing with
[00:22:51] our queen, Olivia Reingold, who no longer follows me, by the way, she's moved on to
[00:22:57] bigger and better things, it seems.
[00:23:01] Maine Democrats have released the update. Maine Democrats have released an update on the U.S.
[00:23:07] Senate nomination process. We'll be talking about that, obviously, and more. But yeah,
[00:23:14] I fell off. I fell off. Abdul is number two in fundraisings on AK Blue fundraising above John
[00:23:20] awesome. Even though he's not even the candidate yet, which is huge. Okay. Spectacular. Wonderful
[00:23:26] moment. Very exciting stuff. Okay. You will never understand the average main voter. Yeah. I saw
[00:23:32] this. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. The main independent guy who was like,
[00:23:36] I will never vote for Troy Jackson because he's homophobic or was homophobic 15 years ago,
[00:23:41] which is why I'm voting for Susan Collins. It's like, I'm well, I'm too woke for Troy Jackson.
[00:23:46] that's why I'm voting for Susan Collins is a really funny thing. I just, Maine is like one of those
[00:23:52] states where under normal circumstances, I'd be like, they hand selected these fucking people.
[00:23:57] You know what I mean? They selected these people to like come up with a very specific narrative,
[00:24:03] but honestly, Maine is literally the only state in the nation where I feel like, Maine and Iowa,
[00:24:08] Actually, predominantly white states end up creating very interesting and very unique
[00:24:18] types of politics, okay?
[00:24:22] So we will do that.
[00:24:23] We will watch it.
[00:24:24] Here's the video linked to USC today.
[00:24:26] It's already here.
[00:24:27] I have it ahead of me.
[00:24:30] But yeah, Maine is one of those places.
[00:24:32] It's very interesting.
[00:24:34] Yeah, we showed we showed chimpanzee how the median voter operates and he hang he hung himself. He hanged himself
[00:24:46] But in any case let's get started with the USA today piece 25 minutes long. It's not that long
[00:24:51] They just kind of cooked my ass
[00:24:54] And we'll move on from there. I don't think they cook my ass necessarily they cook themselves
[00:24:59] But they were very contentious. Let's take a look the conflicts in the Middle East are
[00:25:03] are changing the way that young Americans look at Israel.
[00:25:07] But the political debate is also leaving the door open
[00:25:11] for extremist views to enter the mainstream
[00:25:13] from the far right.
[00:25:15] I think that Jews are causing a disproportionate amount
[00:25:18] of problems in the United States.
[00:25:20] To the far left.
[00:25:21] You f***ing bane pig.
[00:25:24] You f***ing bloodthirsty violent pig dog.
[00:25:27] Anti-Semitism.
[00:25:29] That's right off the jump.
[00:25:31] Like, that's a hatchet job.
[00:25:33] Okay. Right off the rip. That's a fucking hatchet job. Like comparing me to Dan Bilzerian,
[00:25:40] you're not going to make anybody, you are not going to be able to get people on your side with
[00:25:45] this. So the question I have is, who is this for? Did Jonathan Greenblatt write this article?
[00:25:52] Did you write this specifically for a couple people, like the last remaining people in this
[00:25:58] country that care about this sort of stuff, like genuinely care about anti-Semitism, but
[00:26:05] also at the same time are like very, very pro-Israeli. Who is this for?
[00:26:09] It's researching around the world and it's reaching dangerous levels.
[00:26:13] 2025 was one of the most violent periods.
[00:26:16] And right on cue, you got Jonathan motherfucking Greenblatt.
[00:26:20] It's we've seen in memory over 200 acts of violence committed against Jewish people.
[00:26:25] I'm Will Carlos and I've made it my mission to examine how extremist movements are gradually
[00:26:31] becoming mainstream in America. This is extremely normal.
[00:26:40] I'm here in Tampa, Florida at a campaign rally for James Fishback. He's a long-shot candidate
[00:26:47] for governor on the Republican ticket, but he's attracted many young men with far right beliefs
[00:26:53] over a specific issue. Israel. Look, you can love Israel. You can hate Israel. But last
[00:27:00] time I checked, this is the United States of America. I have a crazy radical. Maybe it
[00:27:07] makes me an extremist. But here's a very simple statement. No American should ever
[00:27:13] die for Israel.
[00:27:16] Like here's the other side of the story.
[00:27:20] When you show someone, this controversial opinion, but when you show someone like James
[00:27:25] Fishback, who is actually anti-Semitic, who is like unbelievably racist, but then while
[00:27:30] you're making an argument about his anti-Semitism, you show him making like a coherent point.
[00:27:36] You don't end up making that coherent point look anti-Semitic.
[00:27:40] You just make him look not anti-Semitic, or even worse, you make everybody go, wait,
[00:27:45] that's anti-semitic, I'm fucking anti-semitic. This is something that a lot of the anti-extremism
[00:27:53] space has not been able to identify, unfortunately. And I think partially because so many of these guys,
[00:28:01] myself included, like I've been doing this for years, right? You know this. I've been working
[00:28:06] in combating extremism, far right extremism my entire life, okay? And I used to be friends
[00:28:13] with a lot of these people. I used to see a lot of these people as my peers.
[00:28:18] One of the craziest things that I realized is that a good deal of the combating far-righted
[00:28:25] extremism space was straight up only doing this because they were using it as a valid way to
[00:28:34] identify anti-Israel anti-Semites, okay? Straight up. This doesn't mean the entirety of this
[00:28:40] anti-right-wing extremism movement, and all of these civil rights advocacy organizations
[00:28:47] are like the ADL, but many of them are like that.
[00:28:51] It's unfortunate, but it's true.
[00:28:53] A lot of the big donors to these institutions, I thought, were legitimately invested in combating
[00:28:59] fascism, no matter where it was coming from, even if it's the fascism demonstrated by
[00:29:04] Zionism.
[00:29:07] It's a very sad state of affairs that turns out a lot of these like anti far right guys
[00:29:12] simply were just looking at Nazis because Nazis were some of the, the most common and
[00:29:19] most visible aspects of the anti Israel movement in this country for the longest time.
[00:29:26] It's sad.
[00:29:29] There are people who have obviously been fired or have quit their jobs at the ADL who at
[00:29:35] once was billed as a civil rights organization. You can dispute that, understandably dispute that.
[00:29:43] But there were people who, I think, genuinely believed that the ADL was supposed to be combating
[00:29:47] anti-Semitism, but also combating numerous other forms of far-right extremism. But when Israel
[00:29:54] is the far-right extremist country, and your job is specifically to defend Israel and to take out
[00:30:01] its most prominent critics, some of which are going to be Nazis, some of which are going to be
[00:30:06] actual anti-Semites. But because your primary focus is combating anti-Zionism, well, you can't really
[00:30:12] be a genuine, you can't really be a genuine ally in the fight against far-right radicalization.
[00:30:21] You're actually fomenting far-right radicalization. You're actually defending far-right radicalization.
[00:30:26] And it's just, if it's Jewish supremacist, if it's pro-Israel, then you don't see it.
[00:30:32] As a matter of fact, you like it, as a matter of fact, you defend it.
[00:30:37] The main thing is the way he goes, stands up for America against Israel.
[00:30:42] He's the only politician doing that.
[00:30:43] I feel like we're not allowed to criticize them at all.
[00:30:45] And then any criticism is just immediately shut down as anti-Semitism.
[00:30:49] I think that the average American is fed up.
[00:30:54] They are fed up as they were five or six years ago when folks in the Democrat Party would
[00:31:00] criticize any opinion contrary to DEI or affirmative action as racist.
[00:31:05] And now, if you criticize Netanyahu, if you criticize the fact that we're sending $5 billion
[00:31:10] there, we're spending $200 billion per the Pentagon's request on this war that in the
[00:31:14] words of Secretary of State Marco Rubio says is because of Israel's preemptive attack,
[00:31:19] that is deemed as anti-Semitic.
[00:31:21] But the popularity of fishbacks attacks on Israel isn't just specific to his belief in
[00:31:26] the country's financial and military dependence on the United States.
[00:31:30] He's also gained a lot of fans in the far-right Gen Z group known as Groypers for his use
[00:31:37] of phrases and rhetoric that have been labelled deeply anti-Semitic.
[00:31:42] If you wanted to set up our kids for failure, you would feed them the absolute goyslop in
[00:31:48] our cafeteria.
[00:31:51] Goy Slop is an anti-Semitic internet slang term combining Goy, a Hebrew Yiddish term
[00:31:57] for a non-Jew, and Slop, meaning low-quality food, originating from...
[00:32:03] We will never have a serious conversation about Zionism or even combating anti-Semitism
[00:32:09] because of the way that Jews were historically viewed in the Western world as a marginalized
[00:32:16] identity as a minority versus what Israel represents, what Zionism represents, or even
[00:32:24] like the contemporary Jewish existence. Like, is there systematic discrimination against
[00:32:29] Jews in the United States of America or broadly in the Western world? No, of course not. Is
[00:32:34] there actual antisemitism, specifically antisemitism growing in the Western world? Of course, yes,
[00:32:41] is happening. So, this is the problem. The problem is that we can't have a normal conversation
[00:32:49] about even something like Goyslop, because on the one hand, it is a terminology that
[00:32:56] neo-Nazis use all the fucking time. It's a signal. It's a signal to say, I know this
[00:33:01] thing. It's also funny, but that's besides the point. But here is the problem. The way
[00:33:09] that like Goyim is deployed in Israel is very different than the way that it was mass adopted
[00:33:15] by the neo-nazi movement in the West. So if you are, if you're bracketing Jews as a
[00:33:24] contemporarily marginalized identity that receives tremendous amounts of systematic
[00:33:29] discrimination in the same vein as like black or brown people, right? If you're, if that's your
[00:33:35] assessment, which many of these groups do, many of these advocacy organizations do that,
[00:33:39] to the average person, you're not going to be able to get your point across at all,
[00:33:42] because it's also not true, right? It's just not true.
[00:33:54] And that's the problem. If you want to head a factor, why are you clothed like these days?
[00:34:00] I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I hope you have a great, I hope you have a wonderful Friday, my friend.
[00:34:08] Cloth like this? In any case, the worst part is that even those of us who oppose the 8th
[00:34:24] semifinals and 7th semifinals understand the role of Zionism plays an exacerbating and
[00:34:27] have to ultimately accept the 8th semifinals and will probably continue to rise even if
[00:34:30] Zionism is dismantled purely due to the lingering personal effects of 75 years of Zionism have created in the broader public conscious
[00:34:35] It won't go away overnight. Even if it's related tomorrow. Oh, absolutely
[00:34:40] absolutely um
[00:34:42] So I
[00:34:45] Always figured it just meant non-Jewish. I mean most people don't use it as a derogatory term
[00:34:50] But some do because being non-Jewish in Israel is
[00:34:55] being second-class
[00:34:57] Which, therein lies the problem, because it's topsy-turvy. Historically, we have been taught,
[00:35:05] for understandable reasons, about the systematic marginalization of Jews, the pogroms, the
[00:35:11] holocaust, right? Like marginalization that has led to tremendous amounts of violence
[00:35:16] that Jews have faced, right? Expulsions, death, destruction of their culture, all this stuff.
[00:35:23] Now, of course, in contemporary society, there's nothing of that sort, right?
[00:35:30] Especially in the post-World War II universe that we're living in, there is no systematic
[00:35:35] discrimination or rather, even the systemic factors of discrimination that existed in
[00:35:41] the post-World War II universe in the United States of America have gone away, right?
[00:35:45] Like, there was a reason why Jews would create their own law firms, Jews would create their
[00:35:50] own advertising agencies, Jews would create their own secondary market that doesn't exist
[00:35:56] anymore, right? Like their own publishers. That was because they were outcast systemically
[00:36:03] from the regular, you know, the regular WASP firms that were dominated by white Anglo-Saxon
[00:36:11] Protestants for the longest time. So that's not the case any longer. And it hasn't been
[00:36:18] the case for, I would say the last like four decades, five decades at this point.
[00:36:22] I don't know what the actual turning point is, but it's clear that that doesn't exist.
[00:36:27] Like the systematic discrimination does not exist any longer. And yet a lot of these advocacy
[00:36:33] organizations that want to defend Israel will make it seem as though the systematic form
[00:36:38] of discrimination still exists. Like are Jews non-white? Is that what's going on? Are Jews
[00:36:42] being treated as non-whites. For some, that is the case, right? There are some people out there
[00:36:50] who look at the primarily Ashkenazi Jewish population that lives in the United States of America
[00:36:56] and say they're not white. But those people are usually, let's be real, anti-Semites, okay? By and
[00:37:04] large, for the average American, Jews are white. They don't see Jews as anything but white people.
[00:37:10] It's the, in most respects, it's seen as like an Irish guy or a Polish guy, right?
[00:37:17] Maybe a special kind of white at most, but still white.
[00:37:23] So that's a real issue in identifying anti-Semitic markers and then having this kind of approach
[00:37:34] to it where it's like, well, someone says, going slob, it's like anti-Semitic.
[00:37:36] By and large, usually in most circumstances, the person utilizing this terminology is probably
[00:37:41] anti-Semitic in the Western world, but there's also the other side of this.
[00:37:44] Around 2016 on 4chan, it's used to describe processed, unhealthy food or low-quality media,
[00:37:51] alleging a conspiracy that Jewish elites are promoting these products to make non-Jewish
[00:37:57] people unhealthy and submissive. Well, I meant to be funny. Okay. I want to be funny.
[00:38:02] Why is in the same way growing up, my mother who was born in South America would call what
[00:38:06] my dad would make gringo slop sometimes as a kid. So I mean, was that, was that a.
[00:38:12] Yeah. It's also, as we already know, the groper movement is the most diverse movement in this
[00:38:18] country. Ironically enough, like with the exception of, I think, having like black people in it,
[00:38:26] the groper movement is like fairly diverse, probably more diverse than like maybe even at DSA meeting.
[00:38:33] James Fishback is of course carrying the torch of that diversity being, you know, a visibly
[00:38:41] non-white person who is unbelievably white supremacist.
[00:38:44] Conspiracy against every single Hispanic person in the United States?
[00:38:48] Of course not.
[00:38:49] Well, no, but Goetz law, as far as I understand it, the idea is that this is food that has
[00:38:55] been foisted on non-Jews by a sort of Jewish cabal to weaken them in some way, right?
[00:39:01] I mean, that's the conspiracy.
[00:39:03] That's what you were taking your hand at.
[00:39:05] I don't know that that conspiracy reflects
[00:39:08] what I actually spoke about,
[00:39:10] which is our public school cafeterias
[00:39:13] are feeding kids absolute garbage
[00:39:15] with high fructose corn syrup, high sodium.
[00:39:18] Well, that's not particularly punchy or funny.
[00:39:20] And so I'm gonna do things that are funny, that are punchy.
[00:39:23] I wish we would spend less time talking about word choice
[00:39:26] and more time talking about the issue
[00:39:28] that we have an obesity crisis in my state.
[00:39:31] We have a hunger crisis in life.
[00:39:32] Like this needs to be delicate.
[00:39:34] You need to be delicate.
[00:39:35] If you're fucking looking at anti-semitic dog whistles
[00:39:40] and like objectively anti-semitic people,
[00:39:42] you have to be a little bit more delicate.
[00:39:45] And I hear him, I hear what James Fishback is saying,
[00:39:48] and I see the way he's defending himself as a nod, right?
[00:39:51] This is something that anti-Semites do all the fucking time.
[00:39:55] Like to be like, oh, what are you talking about?
[00:39:57] I'm brown.
[00:39:58] Well, how dare you accuse me of such a heinous mirror?
[00:40:02] Except the problem is, if you are going to turn around
[00:40:06] and say, this is the other side of this argument
[00:40:09] to try to find some fucking ideological parody
[00:40:12] where none exists, you are going to give him credence.
[00:40:16] When you slap the other side of this as Hassan does this too,
[00:40:21] okay, you're giving James Fishback credence.
[00:40:24] You're giving him legitimacy.
[00:40:25] No one is gonna fucking take this argument seriously.
[00:40:28] no one is going to come through his assessment, especially when like the worst things you
[00:40:33] can say about what James Fishback has said about like, you know, it's not necessarily
[00:40:40] like international jewelry or more like objectively and obviously directly anti-Semitic shit
[00:40:48] and simply things that he has said that he can easily say, oh, like I'm just joking here.
[00:40:54] You know what I mean?
[00:40:55] Especially in this day and age,
[00:40:57] where TikTok has basically taken the 4chan terminology
[00:41:01] and made it appropriate for mass consumption,
[00:41:07] it gets a lot more difficult to identify
[00:41:11] who's actually doing the fake, I'm not an anti-Semite
[00:41:15] to fuck around and who actually isn't an anti-Semite.
[00:41:22] There's also the other side of this,
[00:41:24] where you're boosting their popularity
[00:41:26] or offering them more legitimacy.
[00:41:27] I agree with you, but respectfully,
[00:41:28] I think you made that the conversation
[00:41:31] when you used that term.
[00:41:32] Perhaps.
[00:41:33] Okay, fair enough.
[00:41:34] Perhaps, but I don't regret the use of that term whatsoever.
[00:41:36] What I think we have to do is spend less time
[00:41:39] trying to police language
[00:41:40] and more time actually getting to the issues.
[00:41:43] Antisemitism has of course been around for centuries,
[00:41:46] but it's seeing a resurgence, particularly in America,
[00:41:49] around the same time that the Israeli government
[00:41:52] has invaded and attacked Gaza in response to the Hamas-led terrorist attacks against
[00:41:57] Israel on October 7th, 2023.
[00:42:00] That conflict has been deeply unpopular among Americans, many of whom see Israel as having
[00:42:06] taken a disproportionately violent response.
[00:42:10] But here's the thing, while a lot of Americans blame the current Israeli government, the
[00:42:15] Do you regret having the policy of not having or covered or platform Nick Fuentes in the past and shutting him down given how much prominence
[00:42:21] He's gained now. No, it was the appropriate thing to do at the time
[00:42:24] But it's over now has also come against Jews in general across the globe and especially here in the US
[00:42:32] And this scapegoating
[00:42:34] Blaming Jews at large for the actions of the Israeli government has been seized upon by internet savvy influences with extreme views
[00:42:42] I'm just going to come out and say it, like, I think that Jews are causing a disproportionate
[00:42:47] amount of problems in the United States.
[00:42:50] Jews are money changers, bullsh** artists, psychopaths, charlatans, grifters, manipulators.
[00:42:58] That's also led to outward minimization or even full denial at the Holocaust, one of
[00:43:03] the most tragic events in human history, which led to the deaths of more than 6 million Jews.
[00:43:09] Ever since the Holocaust, the alleged Holocaust of roughly 6 million Jews, give or take some
[00:43:15] millions.
[00:43:16] There's so many problems with it and to exterminate that many people in that period of time.
[00:43:21] Like you can't front load this level of anti-semitic commentary that's like directly anti-semitic
[00:43:26] commentary and then be like, and on the other hand, here's Hassan.
[00:43:31] And then the only thing you can point to is me being like, yeah, it'll be really funny
[00:43:35] if uh you know and then I use the the term inbred one fucking time over the course of
[00:43:42] 10 000 hours of fucking commentary many of which prominently features me combating anti-semitism
[00:43:49] while simultaneously talking about anti-zionism what are you doing what the fuck are you doing
[00:43:57] I simply put there one enough ovens let's talk about the holocaust do you believe the holocaust
[00:44:04] happened. Do I believe that the German government killed innocent Jews? Yes. Do you believe that,
[00:44:09] I mean, the number that's always cited as six million people? Do you believe six
[00:44:13] million people died in the Holocaust? So I tell you the truth. I haven't seen this other side,
[00:44:18] but now it's beginning to make sense to me why he asked me such dumb questions. I don't know if
[00:44:22] he featured all of our interview because we talked for like an hour and 30 minutes. And now I'm
[00:44:27] beginning to realize why he asked me those questions as well. And I was like, yeah, of course,
[00:44:31] what the fuck are you talking about? And I couldn't comprehend the way this was pitched to me,
[00:44:38] and I knew that it was going to be a rat fuck, but the way this was pitched to me was, like,
[00:44:45] I'm in this space, I've combated far right radicalization, I've combated antisemitism,
[00:44:50] and therefore, like, you know, they're trying to get my perspective on, like, the growth of
[00:44:55] of anti-Semitism broadly, okay? And the interview that I conducted with this guy, we talked
[00:45:03] extensively. We talked extensively about the dangers of anti-Semitism and like how it's
[00:45:09] working on the far right, how it's growing on the far right. And then he would ask me
[00:45:14] questions like this. And I found that very odd because I was like, why the fuck would
[00:45:18] I deny the Holocaust? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I just couldn't, like, I can't
[00:45:25] remember because this is a long time ago, but it's just like very strange that at the time I just
[00:45:33] at the time I thought it was like an odd interview. I've spent more of my time thinking about
[00:45:37] the history of Florida, the history of our state, how we can make that great. I haven't
[00:45:41] spent a lot of time studying Holocaust history. I know that time and again in U.S. history,
[00:45:46] we've been told one thing only to have it debunked later. What I can unequivocally tell you
[00:45:51] Is that the genocide of jews by you're in the video for like two minutes? He talks about you more than you're in the video
[00:45:56] Yeah, I think there's a reason for that. We we did an extensive sit-down
[00:46:02] That was long as fuck. We talked
[00:46:05] for hours
[00:46:07] We talked for an hour and a half maybe two hours. We went way over
[00:46:13] If you only put five minutes in there and mostly just talks about me that's because they couldn't get anything out of it
[00:46:18] German government was a tragedy. It should never happen again. I'm not sure why we are
[00:46:27] talking about the Holocaust in 2026 to tell you the truth. I don't think we should crack
[00:46:32] down on legitimate speech. I think we should absolutely condemn any form of religious hatred,
[00:46:37] including against Jews. But there always has to be...
[00:46:40] So isn't that a good thing then that we talk about the Holocaust? If we want to ensure
[00:46:44] that these things don't happen again, and we want to keep religious hatred.
[00:46:48] But when we talk about the Holocaust in the context of having a debate about Israel or
[00:46:52] Benjamin Netanyahu or APAC, why would that be relevant?
[00:46:56] I think it's relevant because it's all within the context of Israel defending itself, right,
[00:47:00] and Jewish people defending themselves, which is what they claimed the war is about, right,
[00:47:06] is about defense, and it's about offense for defense, and it's about ensuring that there
[00:47:10] isn't another Holocaust and that they don't get wiped out again, right? Or almost wiped out.
[00:47:15] So this war doesn't appear that that is in fact the case when upwards of 80 civilians,
[00:47:21] 80,000 civilians rather, have been killed at the hands of the Israeli government in Gaza.
[00:47:26] We have to have a real conversation about what is happening in the Middle East.
[00:47:31] There's this often question, does Israel have a right to exist? No country has a right to exist.
[00:47:37] people or endowed with the right to exist.
[00:47:41] You don't want this guy being the fucking credible guy here unless you are directly trying to
[00:47:47] present anti Zionist speech as being inherently anti-Semitic.
[00:47:52] And I'm sorry, I think that's precisely the point for this piece.
[00:47:57] They're showing a guy who's objectively anti-Semitic and a grifter and a snake who was like, you
[00:48:02] know, hanging out with Barry Weiss a couple months prior to his congressional run where
[00:48:07] he decided to be a griper. Okay? When you have a guy like that, also make coherent points.
[00:48:17] When your take, when your perspective on Israel is coming from and out and about like neo-Nazi,
[00:48:30] Okay? You're not doing a service to Jews. You're certainly not actually combating anti-Semitism.
[00:48:38] You think you're doing a good job fighting back against anti-Zionism to present it as anti-Semitic,
[00:48:45] because here's an anti-Semitic guy, right? Here's an anti-Semitic guy making the same
[00:48:50] points that someone like myself makes, right? All of a sudden, you're like,
[00:48:55] See these guys are anti they're all anti-Semitic anyone who says anything about Israel that makes these realistic points
[00:49:03] Points that have been made not just by James fishback or not even just by myself
[00:49:07] But points that are indistinguishable are and and theirs identical to what norm Finkelstein has said about Israel to what elan
[00:49:14] Papa has said about Israel to what avish lame has said about Israel to Gideon levy's
[00:49:20] assessment. Half of the people that I just mentioned also currently live in Israel. Elon
[00:49:24] Pompey and Norm don't, but, you know, Elon Pompey is Israeli. Avi Shlame is Israeli. Gideon
[00:49:32] Levy is Israeli and lives in Israel still. Gabor Maté is a Holocaust survivor who has
[00:49:39] also said these exact same things that James Fishback is saying. So it's important
[00:49:43] But I think people who care about anti-Semitism care about right wing, right wing attitudes
[00:49:51] growing in society, who care about anti-Semitism growing in society.
[00:49:56] Okay.
[00:49:57] What?
[00:49:58] Yeah.
[00:49:59] Let's make the 9-11 guy the face of the level-headed anti-Israel movement.
[00:50:05] Movement.
[00:50:06] Brie, I love you, but we have to get rid of the parasitic state of Israel and stop the
[00:50:09] genocide.
[00:50:10] Norm is on board against Israel.
[00:50:24] I'm not even gonna dignify that with a response.
[00:50:27] Through self-defense, through self-determination.
[00:50:29] I don't believe that.
[00:50:30] Dog, you're literally, you just looked at, you looked at James Fishback, a fucking
[00:50:34] grouper and I'm criticizing making a grouper the face of the anti-Zionist movement and
[00:50:43] you literally said he's the normal guy?
[00:50:49] That's what you...
[00:50:52] Are you okay?
[00:50:55] I'm the 9-11 guy?
[00:50:59] Who do you think is more normal or closer to the average person's perspective?
[00:51:08] Me or the guy who's like, you know, Byron Donalds is black.
[00:51:19] Israeli government has a permanent right to exist, regardless of electoral outcomes,
[00:51:24] geopolitical considerations, the will of the people.
[00:51:27] Jewish people anywhere in the world, but especially in the United States of America,
[00:51:31] absolutely have a right to exist. This talking point about Israel's right to exist and self-determination
[00:51:39] has become one of the most hotly debated issues when it comes to Israel and Jews as a people.
[00:51:45] The key term here is Zionism, which refers to a movement and belief that Jewish people have the
[00:51:52] right to self-determination and a state of their own. It serves as the foundation of Israel as a
[00:51:59] country after the Holocaust. But people I spoke with across the country on the left and the right
[00:52:04] use that term Zionist in a sort of automatically derogatory way. They define Zionism not as...
[00:52:12] Yeah, this was a conversation that took place with me as well. And I think I did a pretty good job
[00:52:18] But let's see what they put in a nation to existence and safety, but instead equate Zionism with Israel's
[00:52:26] Expansion into the West Bank and Gaza young people at right-wing political events
[00:52:31] Yeah, I wonder why people on the left with equate Israel and Zionism the the underpinning
[00:52:37] Ideology that developed the nation state of Israel, which is a settler colonial expansionist state that
[00:52:43] started off with the ethnic cleansing of 750,000
[00:52:47] indigenous Palestinians. I wonder why people would equate that. I wonder why academics would equate
[00:52:53] Zionism with exactly what Zionism is and was and has been. Making this argument, as though it's
[00:53:03] like a crazy thing to say, in 2026, when prominent Jews who live in Israel, academics are finally
[00:53:13] coming to terms with this reality, and they're trying to basically game it out in a way,
[00:53:19] basically game it out in a way where they're like trying to slowly but surely get people
[00:53:26] to comprehend what Zionism is by talking about what Zionism, in air quotes, has become.
[00:53:32] Omar Bartop is the, of course, a person that I'm talking about.
[00:53:36] Omar Bartop is a Holocaust scholar, he's Jewish, he's Israeli, he wrote a book about
[00:53:41] what zionism has turned into
[00:53:44] now many people will look at that and say what do you mean what zionism is
[00:53:47] turned into this was on his mall is has been
[00:53:49] i see
[00:53:50] something positive in that experience
[00:53:53] what i see is
[00:53:55] a guy
[00:53:56] who's lived his whole life in israel as a jewish guy who is a prominent
[00:54:00] holocaust historian
[00:54:02] coming to terms with the reality that zionism has
[00:54:06] become
[00:54:07] And maybe always has been a right wing fascist ideology.
[00:54:12] Obviously, it takes some time for people like Omar Bartov to basically come to terms with
[00:54:19] that reality.
[00:54:20] It's just cope, but it's healthy, okay?
[00:54:24] It's healthy cope in some respects.
[00:54:28] Because that means that certain things that you never could discuss, certain things that
[00:54:35] would immediately outcast you, no matter how prominent of an academic you might be as a
[00:54:40] Jew, are now being openly discussed even in Israeli society.
[00:54:45] Now, has it taken root in Israeli society, this ideology that like the founding ideology
[00:54:51] of the settler colonial state has maybe merged into something fascistic?
[00:54:56] I don't think so.
[00:54:59] But ultimately, there is a movement in the positive direction, movement in the direction
[00:55:04] of truth, okay? That's it.
[00:55:11] Left wing protests.
[00:55:12] The reason why I'm bringing all that up is because I'm not alone in this assessment.
[00:55:16] This is the assessment of many scholars, okay? This is the assessment of many scholars. This
[00:55:21] is the assessment of a lot of thoughtful people who have poured their whole lives working
[00:55:27] of this, even people who come from that background of assuming that Israel is actually a force
[00:55:35] for good, a place for Jews to feel safe, a place where the Holocaust can never happen
[00:55:41] again.
[00:55:42] Like, even if they've grown up with this mentality, they're finally recognizing that
[00:55:47] it's fucking bullshit.
[00:55:49] It's not just random scary Muslim guy or 9-11 guy in the way that some dumb fucks were
[00:55:54] we're trying to explain it in the chat.
[00:55:58] It's the assessment of many Jewish scholars as well.
[00:56:01] Not that it matters.
[00:56:02] It's the assessment of many humanitarian rights
[00:56:04] organizations and many scholars in general.
[00:56:06] It's a fucking right-wing ideology.
[00:56:08] Tess alike told me they're not anti-Jewish,
[00:56:12] but they are anti-Zionist.
[00:56:14] One of the most popular and controversial anti-Zionists
[00:56:17] is the leftist political commentator, Hassan Piker.
[00:56:21] So don't tell me that when you're peacefully
[00:56:24] trying to coexist with Israel, they let you
[00:56:26] f**king peacefully coexist.
[00:56:27] Because what is going on in the West Bank
[00:56:29] is nothing but violence.
[00:56:32] Pico's amassed more than 6 million followers
[00:56:35] across his social platforms with his blunt
[00:56:38] and aggressive reactions to right-wing politics,
[00:56:41] and particularly against Israel's current leadership.
[00:56:44] And he's recently entered the political battlefield,
[00:56:48] stumping for progressive politicians
[00:56:50] like New York City Mayor Zoran Mandani,
[00:56:53] Pennsylvania Congresswoman Summer Lee and U.S. Senate candidate for Michigan, Abdul El Sayed.
[00:56:59] He's also made speeches on college campuses like Yale.
[00:57:02] Donald Trump let the Israelis drag the U.S. into this newest war with Iran after three
[00:57:08] years of bipartisan support for the genocide that Israel was committing on a different
[00:57:14] front of Israel's multiple ongoing wars of aggression.
[00:57:19] Zionism is the ethno-religious supremacist ideology that is exterminationist and principle.
[00:57:25] Dude, this suit was so small. It's like, it's embarrassing. Look at this shit. Look at this shit.
[00:57:31] Look at how tiny this fucking suit is. Tiny suit!
[00:57:35] Thank God I've grown from this. And by that I mean, I've gotten smaller, but my suits fit better.
[00:57:40] Holy shit, that's so bad. It looks like I got chicken legs on.
[00:57:44] born out of the wrong assessment that this was a land without people for a
[00:57:50] people without land. It required the extermination of the indigenous population
[00:57:55] and that's precisely what has happened since its inception and it's a final
[00:57:59] iteration of that. It has been the Gaza genocide that we watched unfold.
[00:58:04] Would you notice that that's a very different definition to what many Jews
[00:58:09] would consider Zionism? Of course people that want to support Israel are going to
[00:58:12] look at that and say, well, Zionism, to me,
[00:58:15] means something entirely different.
[00:58:16] Zionism, to me-
[00:58:17] Maybe it just does.
[00:58:18] Maybe it just does mean something different.
[00:58:19] Yeah, but at the end of the day,
[00:58:22] it's still this ideology that is responsible
[00:58:25] for not only the inception of the Israeli state,
[00:58:27] but it's current version.
[00:58:29] When Hassan Pai.
[00:58:30] Yeah, like, I don't care what people think about it.
[00:58:34] Like, I don't know why this is a decent counterargument,
[00:58:39] argument, right? Like, oh, well, a lot of Jews think Zionism is something different than what
[00:58:45] it actually is. It's like, okay, but what is it actually, right? What is it actually? Which,
[00:58:50] in this interview, I also brought up Omar Bartov as well. I said, like, actually, that's not even
[00:58:54] true. There is like, now a reconsideration of what Zionism has become. And I think a lot of
[00:59:01] people are fighting back against their social conditioning, even Israeli Jews, like prominent
[00:59:06] Holocaust scholar Omar Bartow has like now officially come to terms with this evolution
[00:59:12] of Zionism. Now, we might have a difference in opinion on what Zionism always was versus what
[00:59:17] Zionism has become, but we have no difference in opinion of what Zionism looks like in modernity,
[00:59:24] in 2026. What Zionism looks like in 2026 is the expansionist greater Israel project
[00:59:29] And it's continuation, okay? That's it. But the issue here is we can't have a normal,
[00:59:38] sincere adult conversation. We can't do sober analysis if you got charlatans like Jonathan
[00:59:44] Greenblatt who take this difference in opinion and turn it into something insidious, right?
[00:59:52] It's so fucking frustrating. It's so stupid.
[00:59:57] Proudly says he's an anti-Zionist.
[01:00:00] Anti-Zionism is a form of anti-Semitism.
[01:00:03] It's the idea that Jewish people, unlike Muslims, unlike Christians,
[01:00:07] unlike all the people in the world, don't have a right to a state of their own.
[01:00:10] That's what it means.
[01:00:12] Jonathan Greenblatt.
[01:00:14] Like a guy who's combated far-right radicalization in a civil rights organization
[01:00:18] being like, what do you mean?
[01:00:19] Why can't Jews do manifest destiny in the same way that Christians did?
[01:00:23] Big dog
[01:00:25] For years and years your entire job was to literally combat white
[01:00:30] Nationalists who fucking said America's a Christian nation and we need to fucking make sure that it's a Christian nation
[01:00:38] What do you mean?
[01:00:40] This is
[01:00:41] directly
[01:00:43] Antagonistic to the way that the ADL has billed itself as a civil rights organization
[01:00:47] This is also antagonistic to the ADL's commentary and criticism over the likes of Nick Fuentes.
[01:00:52] This is why I say there is not a lot of difference between Christian supremacists and white supremacists.
[01:00:58] They are just fascists for their own in-group and Jonathan Greenblatt as a Zionist is a fascist for his own in-group.
[01:01:07] Okay?
[01:01:09] That's it. Jonathan Greenblatt is a fascist for Jewish supremacists.
[01:01:14] Nick Fuentes is a fascist or white Christian supremacist, what he considers to be white
[01:01:20] Christian supremacist, which of course, you know, one can contest whether or not Nick
[01:01:24] Fuentes even fits that bill considering that he is a in the closet gay Mexican, but also
[01:01:32] a white supremacist.
[01:01:34] But regardless, these are both fascist ideologies, they're both supremacist ideologies.
[01:01:42] is just the in-group and the out-group have swapped.
[01:01:48] Is the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League.
[01:01:51] The nonprofit was founded in 1913,
[01:01:54] and its mission is to combat anti-Semitism
[01:01:57] and broader discrimination around the world.
[01:02:00] Today, the ADL uses technology to track-
[01:02:03] So I'm sorry, but if you're doing this,
[01:02:06] if you're promoting the ADL in this way,
[01:02:08] I think you're doing a disservice as a journalist
[01:02:11] to combatting extremism. The ADL is an extremist organization. Okay?
[01:02:41] And they see not just sort of self-determination, but they've come to understand Zionism as expansionism
[01:02:47] So I get that we have to try to understand the next generation where they're coming from
[01:02:53] Dude dude
[01:02:55] It's a settler colonial enterprise. Of course. It's expansionist
[01:02:59] What are we talking about?
[01:03:01] The question if we're being serious the question is is it appropriate or not if you don't see the Arab
[01:03:08] indigenous population as human beings, you look at it and you say, well, this is Taman
[01:03:13] the Barbarians. This is civilizing this uncivilized area.
[01:03:18] And ironically enough, I did have this conversation with this guy. I hope he fucking featured at
[01:03:24] least some of it. I talked extensively about Jabotinsky, Theodore Herzl, early Zionists
[01:03:31] and their assessment of what they were doing and their openness about how this was a colonialist
[01:03:39] project.
[01:03:41] I don't think that they featured any of that in this conversation.
[01:03:45] Where the fuck is the full cut, man?
[01:03:47] Release the full conversation.
[01:03:51] At the same time, there are absolutes.
[01:03:54] They can look at things in different ways.
[01:03:57] But Zionism is the right of Jewish people to self-determination in their ancestral homeland.
[01:04:01] That's it.
[01:04:02] It's all it is.
[01:04:03] So you can be upset with Prime Minister Nyahu and some of his policies, but he didn't
[01:04:08] event Zionism any more than you could be upset with President Trump's and his policies.
[01:04:12] He didn't event kind of America or patriotism, Piker and others, exploit the broad misunderstanding
[01:04:20] of what that word means.
[01:04:22] And they promote misunderstanding by using it as some kind of slur, or trying to suggest
[01:04:27] it means something that it doesn't.
[01:04:29] My Zionism, and I am an unapologetic Zionist, I believe it's right to exist.
[01:04:34] The ADL has monitored anti-Semitism from the left and the right, but Greenblatt says they've
[01:04:39] seen increasing use of anti-Semitic rhetoric from the left over the conflicts in the Middle
[01:04:46] East.
[01:04:47] Piker has been a specific concern for the ADL.
[01:04:50] On their website, you can find a roughly 10 page research analysis of moments that they
[01:04:56] say Piker has used blatant anti-semitic rhetoric.
[01:05:00] You f***ing bane pig, you f***ing bloodthirsty violent pig dog.
[01:05:06] Pig dog is identified as an anti-semitic.
[01:05:10] That's not even a real anti-semitic dog whistle, by the way.
[01:05:13] That's not.
[01:05:14] It's not.
[01:05:15] really fucked up that they had to like invent an anti-semitic dog whistle to make it seem
[01:05:22] like I'm saying anti-semitic shit.
[01:05:24] That's how fucking easy it is, dude.
[01:05:27] They did a make it up after the fact moment.
[01:05:31] They used their prominence as an institution that fucking combats anti-semitism to come
[01:05:40] Come up with a new dog whistle, post-hoc to make it seem like I was saying some anti-Semitic
[01:05:45] shit.
[01:05:47] Insult, often used in conjunction with other anti-Jewish-
[01:05:51] That's crazy dude, that's crazy.
[01:06:01] I guess in many respects this should be expected.
[01:06:04] Also, I wasn't saying that to a Jewish person regardless.
[01:06:07] It doesn't matter.
[01:06:08] It doesn't matter.
[01:06:09] it's fucking bullshit. It's so funny because like one of the only people, I mean, there
[01:06:18] is literally a conversation that I had with Donio Sullivan on camera, okay? A conversation
[01:06:27] I had with Donio Sullivan on camera where Doni, and as we're on our way to the DNC,
[01:06:32] starts asking me about how I call Republicans hogs. And I tell him, I call all matter of
[01:06:37] like right-wing reactionary people, hogs or sometimes inbred, okay? And he's like,
[01:06:44] don't you feel like that's mean? And I'm like, well, they're mean. Their whole worldview is nasty,
[01:06:49] right? So it's literally out there, the numerous instances, including on CNN,
[01:06:56] where I have, and that was featured on a CNN piece. So like, it's literally out there
[01:07:02] in these other mainstream media platforms where I've straight up been like, no, I
[01:07:07] Fucking, of course, I call it hog. It's it's pejorative, but it's also affectionate at the same time as well
[01:07:14] The thing is
[01:07:16] They still do this
[01:07:18] Right, they still do this
[01:07:20] But it doesn't work. So why are you still doing it?
[01:07:24] like what
[01:07:25] utility do you get out of
[01:07:28] Trying to strike down one of the only motherfuckers out there who still
[01:07:32] takes the time out to try and combat anti-Semitism. I will never understand it,
[01:07:38] okay? I'll never understand it. You are destroying your legitimacy. You're
[01:07:43] destroying your legitimacy. The conversation in and of itself is already
[01:07:48] stupid. Even if you were bringing up an anti-Semitic person, like an actual
[01:07:52] anti-Semitic person, they can just turn around and go look at fucking Randy Fine.
[01:07:56] Randy Fine is justifying current existing forms of violence. You want to
[01:08:02] fucking call me an anti-Semite. Most people are basically at that point where they just don't give a shit.
[01:08:10] So I always find it strange that they hyper-focus on a person who does give a shit.
[01:08:18] And the irony here is this doesn't make people look at me differently. This doesn't make people look at me and go,
[01:08:24] I guess he's anti-Semitic. I guess this entire time I was wrong, he's just an anti-Semitic guy, you know.
[01:08:32] I feel really shameful about supporting him all these years when I heard him combat anti-Semezon
[01:08:36] They look at this and they go I guess James Fishback is not a fucking anti-Semite or a secret third option where they go we like it
[01:08:47] Who cares
[01:08:50] That's the current environment and none of these fucking assholes are aware of it because they can't slay
[01:08:56] They can't pull their goddamn heads out of their assholes. It's lodged up their own asses
[01:09:02] They don't even realize that like a normie the average American does not give off fuck about anti-semitism
[01:09:13] It's so stupid
[01:09:15] That's right such as references to blood thirsty or in German Shweiner jute Jewish pigs
[01:09:22] That's not that's a different word you added Jews
[01:09:28] Fuck I didn't even know he did
[01:09:30] Do you regret any of the things that you said?
[01:09:36] I mean, I've spoken for 21,000 hours on contentious subjects from a perspective that most Americans
[01:09:43] are not privy to.
[01:09:44] So I'm sure that there are things that I've said in heated moments because it's a very
[01:09:48] contentious environment.
[01:09:50] It's a medium that requires interaction.
[01:09:53] If they serve in the military and then they get their fucking untrained inbred shit is
[01:09:58] shipped into southern Lebanon? Again. Again, very funny.
[01:10:04] When I'm calling like a settler or something, inbred, it's not different than me calling
[01:10:08] a neo-nazi inbred. Is it nice? No. Is it kind? Absolutely not. It's vulgar, for sure. I understand
[01:10:14] that. But it's not saying like all Jews are inbred or anything like that. That's not what
[01:10:19] I meant. That's not what I mean at all.
[01:10:20] You see how Piker is essentially saying the same thing that James Fishback told me? When
[01:10:26] He chooses to use a word like dog or inbred to define a specific racial group, Jews.
[01:10:33] He says, it's just colorful language like fishback calling cafeteria food, Goyslop.
[01:10:39] It's just crude language that gets taken as...
[01:10:42] You're a fucking idiot, dude.
[01:10:44] I'm sorry.
[01:10:45] You are so fucking dumb.
[01:10:51] you added Jew in there to say like Shwina Yudin, like Jewish pig, right? You added that in there.
[01:10:58] That's not what I'm saying. I'm not even speaking German. I'm speaking English.
[01:11:03] And secondly, you're such a fucking moron, dude. You are so stupid. If your goal is anything,
[01:11:13] like, here's why this is so dumb. Number one, this doesn't de-legitimize me. It legitimizes
[01:11:19] James Fishback. So if your goal is to combat anti-Semitism, you're already fucked up. Okay?
[01:11:26] You're already fucked up. You're platforming anti-Semites and you're making them look fucking
[01:11:30] reasonable. That's number one. Number two, if your goal is to defend the nation state of Israel,
[01:11:37] you're already fucked up. It's not going to happen. Most people hate Israel for good reason.
[01:11:42] So now you got prominent anti-Semites looking like they're fucking reasonable in this conversation.
[01:11:49] Why would you do that?
[01:11:57] Why would you fucking do any of this?
[01:11:59] It doesn't make any sense.
[01:12:00] Who is this for?
[01:12:02] It's not 2016 anymore, man.
[01:12:04] People know, people know what's up.
[01:12:10] Oh my God.
[01:12:19] I just like this doesn't even work to defend Israel. That's the other side of this
[01:12:24] It doesn't even work to defend Israel. No one watches it goes. Well
[01:12:28] I'm gonna really reconsider my position now. No, it just makes people go. I don't give a fuck about this
[01:12:36] It's woke one but for Israel supporters, but it doesn't matter
[01:12:40] It doesn't matter because for the last three years people have seen a genocide unfold on
[01:12:46] on their phones, okay?
[01:12:48] They saw it every day.
[01:12:50] And then they saw the Israeli
[01:12:51] state that was conducting this
[01:12:52] genocide, turn around without a
[01:12:54] shred of irony and go,
[01:12:55] you know what's really the problem?
[01:12:57] My feelings, my feelings, when you
[01:13:00] tell me that this genocide is
[01:13:01] wrong, no one is going to take
[01:13:05] this seriously.
[01:13:07] Just give it up.
[01:13:10] Give it up, it's over.
[01:13:12] Give it up, find a new method.
[01:13:15] This is the old method, it's not working.
[01:13:18] The, as a matter of fact, not only is it not working,
[01:13:20] it's actually backfiring.
[01:13:21] This is what makes people more anti-Semitic.
[01:13:25] This is what foments anti-Semitism.
[01:13:27] Because people go, I don't care.
[01:13:31] I don't care at all.
[01:13:33] And as a matter of fact, I like it.
[01:13:35] Okay, that's how they respond to it.
[01:13:41] Anti-Semitic.
[01:13:42] I think defending being vulgar is a silly exercise.
[01:13:46] It's like trying to explain a joke.
[01:13:47] It's never gonna be funny.
[01:13:49] It's already over.
[01:13:50] I'm telling you sincerely what I believe.
[01:13:52] I'm not precious with my language is what I'm saying.
[01:13:56] The critics like Greenblatt.
[01:13:57] Yeah, I had a, you know, it was really fucked up too.
[01:13:59] I remember this conversation.
[01:14:01] I literally told him,
[01:14:02] I know this is exactly what neo-Nazis do.
[01:14:06] And I had a meta conversation about the fucking piece
[01:14:08] that he ended up creating.
[01:14:10] the meta conversation that we had was,
[01:14:13] this is how anti-Semites get away
[01:14:14] with saying anti-Semitic shit,
[01:14:16] which is why you have to be extra careful
[01:14:18] in not conflating prominent critics of anti-Semitism
[01:14:22] who are also anti-Zionists with anti-Semites
[01:14:25] who claim to be anti-Israel,
[01:14:27] but are simply using Israel's unpopularity
[01:14:31] to slam in a much more nefarious subject,
[01:14:34] a much more nefarious goal to say,
[01:14:36] this is how all Jews are.
[01:14:38] because without realizing it,
[01:14:39] you yourself end up playing into that narrative.
[01:14:47] Wow.
[01:14:51] That's crazy.
[01:14:54] Don't buy that.
[01:14:55] Hassan can say whatever he wants.
[01:14:58] We bring the receipts.
[01:15:00] So I'm not gonna judge him
[01:15:01] on what he says to you in a conversation.
[01:15:03] I'm gonna judge him.
[01:15:04] Oh, you're just looking,
[01:15:04] this is what's so funny about it.
[01:15:06] It's just like, if I wasn't such a stubborn person,
[01:15:10] if I wasn't so fucking autistic,
[01:15:12] I would have given up on this shit a long time ago.
[01:15:14] I would have been like, yeah, whatever, call me anti-Semitic.
[01:15:16] Who gives a shit?
[01:15:17] Plenty of people have already gone there, okay?
[01:15:19] Because the reality of the matter
[01:15:21] is the most consequential element here
[01:15:23] is Israel's foreign policy,
[01:15:25] what it's done in Gaza, what it's done in Lebanon,
[01:15:26] what it's doing in Iran,
[01:15:28] and how much Israel's foreign policy
[01:15:31] melts into American domestic policy.
[01:15:35] Americans realize this. They're frustrated by it. They hate it. They don't want it. Okay. So all of these conversations by anti-Semitism
[01:15:42] are completely secondary to the real material harm that
[01:15:46] Palestinians have experienced the real material harm that Lebanese people are experiencing currently the real material harm that the
[01:15:52] Iranian population has experienced and even the secondary consequences of that to the American society that broadly is frustrated with this
[01:16:00] unlimited tax dollars go into Israel and want it to change and then get yelled at
[01:16:05] for being anti-semitic, for being, you know, the demands that they see about
[01:16:10] deplatforming. The demands that they see about deplatforming and the success
[01:16:16] that they see about deplatforming on, you know, on numerous fronts. They hate
[01:16:22] that shit. They hate it. So for them, anti-semitism does not have any weight any longer. Okay?
[01:16:32] For the longest time, anti-semitism held a lot of weight. Okay? When you called someone
[01:16:37] an anti-semite, that meant something. Now it doesn't mean anything. And it's because
[01:16:43] of this, and they're still doing it.
[01:16:47] And in the base of what he says to his audience, day after day after day, when you call Orthodox
[01:16:52] Jews inbred, when you describe the Jewish state as evil, as Hamas, a terror organization
[01:17:00] committed...
[01:17:01] No, I didn't say it's as evil as Hamas.
[01:17:04] I said, Israel is far more evil.
[01:17:08] It's more evil.
[01:17:10] It's a slaughtering Jewish people anywhere in the world that says it in their charter.
[01:17:15] Those are their words.
[01:17:16] green green with Jonathan Greenblatt what the fuck's wrong with this guy
[01:17:25] Yeah, I know there's a piece of this that I saw
[01:17:30] And we all
[01:17:31] Bro said I debate him on anti's items. We've simply concede the Zionism is good and legitimate ahead of time
[01:17:36] Others have called out piker support for Hamas the Palestinian militant group responsible for the October 7th attacks in Israel
[01:17:44] He's described the group as the lesser evil in the ongoing conflict. Hamas's original
[01:17:51] 1988 founding charter explicitly called for the destruction of Israel and the killing of Jewish people worldwide an
[01:17:59] updated version of the charter in 2017 removed references to the destruction of Israel. Yeah. Yeah, they did the PR
[01:18:05] They did the PR thing. Okay. This is the PR method like
[01:18:11] dog
[01:18:12] Hamas is an operation, is an organization, openly, openly says their operations are only in occupied
[01:18:20] Palestinian territory. It's a nationalist group. Okay, it's a fucking nationalist group.
[01:18:27] They have no ambitions beyond the occupied territories. That's it. Its primary focus has
[01:18:34] always been the end of the occupation. Now, in 1988, when it was a fucking, an Islamic charity,
[01:18:40] a Muslim brother had got out. Yes, it had anti-Semitic language in his starting in his
[01:18:46] foundational charter. It's not the same fucking organization any longer. Not that it matters,
[01:18:52] because no one wants to talk about why Hamas even exists or why it became a militant resistance
[01:18:57] front. Why it became the leader of the militant resistance front. Perhaps it has something to
[01:19:02] do with the fact that Israel killed all the Christian Palestinians, the secular Palestinians,
[01:19:05] the socialist Palestinians over and over and over again, and reduced them into nothing.
[01:19:10] And the only group that survived that process, that Culling, has been these guys. That's it.
[01:19:16] What the fuck are Palestinians supposed to do? If their goal is the end of the apartheid,
[01:19:22] the end of the occupation, yeah, they're going to fucking be like, all right, whatever. And
[01:19:25] now I don't even agree with these guys on domestic policy. I don't agree with the way
[01:19:29] that they leave the world, but I do agree with one thing. We got to fucking end this occupation.
[01:19:34] If that's your primary focus, you're going to find yourself taking up arms alongside them,
[01:19:38] Which is precisely what happened
[01:19:42] They're declaring to confront what they call the Zionist project and upheld arm persistence
[01:19:49] What is this the Nazis called Jews Jewish vermin if you call Jewish person vermin without adding Jewish are you
[01:19:54] Playing into the historical slur or not is this guy trying to fucking debate this shit?
[01:19:58] I'm using another example to explain the principle clearly. No way did I say he said that dog dog? I
[01:20:04] I don't even use the term pig dog now because I'm like worried that people are gonna think
[01:20:09] it's anti-Semitic because they just decided that it's now an anti-Semitic terminology.
[01:20:13] Having said that, if we're actually having a real conversation, just to see your conversation
[01:20:16] about it, no, pig dog is like red alert communists talking about fucking fascists, okay?
[01:20:24] Fascist capitalist pig dog is like the most common fucking utilization of it in modern
[01:20:29] pop culture.
[01:20:30] a new it's it's such a not real issue that even fucking Jake Tapper didn't know what it was most people don't know what it was
[01:20:38] They're they're like, oh, maybe I guess they're supposed to be it's supposed to be an anti-semitic term
[01:20:41] I don't know I'm supposed to assume that this anti-semitic if you're supposed to assume that something is anti-semitic then it's probably not
[01:20:49] Okay, it's stupid as fuck
[01:21:00] As far as being pro-Hamas, okay, as far as being quote unquote pro-Hamas, I've made it
[01:21:11] very clear, okay, there are condemnable actions of the Palestinian resistance group, ne, thank
[01:21:17] you.
[01:21:18] There are actions that are condemnable at the end of the day, but you have to match
[01:21:22] them up to the systemic violence that Palestinians have experienced in the same way as analyzing
[01:21:29] than that eternal rebellion, as opposed to the systematic enforcement of chattel slavery.
[01:21:34] Which one is far worse than the other? Okay? Because the reality of the matter is, the
[01:21:40] standard of violence is always set by the occupational forces, the occupying forces,
[01:21:45] the settler colony, okay? And resistance groups match that level of violence. And as violence
[01:21:51] towards civilians increase in frequency and its regularity, the magnitude of violence
[01:21:56] increases, so does the violence as a form of militant resistance, okay? These guys didn't
[01:22:02] just come out of the gate swinging like this. That's why it's almost a cliche at this point
[01:22:06] where people say, look, the first thing that the father was fought was stones. The second
[01:22:09] one was bus bombings, okay? It has evolved over time because the maintenance of an apartheid
[01:22:15] is an inherently violent endeavor. It's an unbelievably violent endeavor. You cannot just
[01:22:20] Fucking section off certain aspects of society into these little pockets and bully them and kill them with regular frequency with impunity and
[01:22:29] And arrest them permanently without a real trial and then assume people not to fucking fight back
[01:22:35] Of course, they're gonna fucking fight back militarily
[01:22:40] Just because one is
[01:22:42] State violence and the other is is violence against said state violence oftentimes in a defensive posture and sometimes in an offensive posture
[01:22:49] It doesn't change that dynamic at all. So whenever people talk about like, oh, here's the boarding
[01:22:53] homos, it's like, I believe the Palestinian people have a right to resist militarily.
[01:22:58] And it's not just my belief, it's international law. Okay? Some of that takes the form of war
[01:23:04] crimes. Absolutely. But even when you're making an assessment on the war crimes, you have to look at
[01:23:10] what they are responding to, the systematic violence, the unbelievable amount of war crimes.
[01:23:14] Israel's existence is a war crime. Okay.
[01:23:18] Is one ginormous war crime?
[01:23:20] That's the reason why I don't fucking stand down when I say like lesser evil.
[01:23:24] Uh, uh, when I, when I do the, uh, Hamas, the lesser evil,
[01:23:28] I'm a lesser evil voter, that kind of thing. Okay.
[01:23:33] So I'm, I'm down here.
[01:23:34] Reveals that Taylor Swift has already paid the cost of permits and public
[01:23:36] research used for her Madison square garden wedding at Hassan, the hunt. Okay.
[01:23:41] You said that you supported Hamas a thousand times.
[01:23:44] Hamas is a thousand times better than Israel. The numbers probably have increased now that
[01:23:48] Israel is doing what it's doing to Gaza in Lebanon as well.
[01:23:51] But aren't you just justifying violence with more violence though? I mean, like that's
[01:23:56] what it sounds like. I mean, if ultimately the goal is peace and a diplomatic solution
[01:24:00] to that. Yeah, this was, I think this was the one moment where I got so mad at him that I literally,
[01:24:05] I mean, I don't know if they put that in there, but I straight up was like, dude,
[01:24:08] You think my statements and not the maintenance of an apartheid for 75 years, now 80 years,
[01:24:14] is what makes a path towards peace impossible? You think it's not the expansion of the settlements
[01:24:20] projects over the course of the last four or five decades now that has rendered the two-state
[01:24:25] solution impossible? It's my statements here in the United States of America. Get the fuck out
[01:24:30] of here. I'm analyzing what's going on. Yes, then doesn't it set back that cause by
[01:24:34] support, expressing in very stark terms support for a group that is engaged currently in acts
[01:24:41] of terrorism.
[01:24:45] I think Israel is doing acts of terrorism.
[01:24:47] I think America is doing acts of terrorism.
[01:24:48] But you can be against both, can't you?
[01:24:49] I mean, you can be...
[01:24:50] Well, of course, I am, right?
[01:24:53] And I have said that any kind of targeting of civilians is a war crime.
[01:24:59] It's heinous.
[01:25:00] It's completely unacceptable.
[01:25:01] It's not an endorsement necessarily of, of militant resistance.
[01:25:05] Sounds like an endorsement.
[01:25:06] It's not an endorsement of militant resistance, but it's, but it's a recognition, but it's
[01:25:10] a recognition of their desperation.
[01:25:13] I think you could ask.
[01:25:16] I should have said it's not an endorsement of all tactics of militant resistance for
[01:25:19] the record.
[01:25:20] I should have said that, that was, that was wrong of me to say it's not an endorsement
[01:25:24] of militant resistance to recognition of their desperation.
[01:25:28] I should have said it's not an endorsement of all of the things that militant resistance
[01:25:30] those because there is a level of endorsement that I absolutely stand by, right? As far as like
[01:25:38] the, the permissibility inside of the boundaries of international law, and even beyond that,
[01:25:42] I'm much more understanding of like the, the desperation as well, because I think it's more
[01:25:47] important to recognize it. Having said that, as far as like militant resistance endorsed by
[01:25:52] international law, that is perfectly defensible, things that Hezbollah does against the Israeli
[01:25:57] occupation in Lebanon is endorseable. It is literally valid. It is not a violation. Israel
[01:26:05] is violating international law in that situation. And the same goes for targeting military infrastructure,
[01:26:10] for targeting members of the military. When people say stuff like, oh, this guy was kidnapped
[01:26:14] from a tank, for example, you can't make that argument. You're not kidnapping someone from
[01:26:18] inside of a tank. A tank is a military asset, okay? That's not kidnapping. That's taking
[01:26:26] a prisoner of war
[01:26:28] okay
[01:26:31] it's very important
[01:26:33] it's a lot of people who are kind of spouting anti Zionism
[01:26:36] does israel have a right to exist and most of them would say always justifying
[01:26:40] murder if you say that a prolific serial killer is much worse than a person who
[01:26:43] is killed only one person in that person happens to be the serial killer
[01:26:46] you're obviously justifying murder
[01:26:48] that's the argument
[01:26:51] on the one hand got the fucking zodiac killer on the other hand you got the guy
[01:26:54] who's who's uh... you know parents have been victimized by the zodiac killer
[01:26:57] going and finding the zodiac killer and killing them and you go well i guess you
[01:26:59] endorse violence
[01:27:02] it's so stupid and most people understand that this is stupid
[01:27:06] that's the problem for these guys
[01:27:08] which you know brings me back to my main point which is that this is an
[01:27:11] unbelievably dumb way to go about this when you try to both sides the
[01:27:14] situation when you try to fucking pair me up with people who don't make this
[01:27:18] assessment who are cynically actually trying to launder anti-semitic
[01:27:21] commentary into mainstream discourse and they've succeeded. Part of the reason why they've succeeded
[01:27:27] is because of this dumb shit. If this is the only way you can combat anti-Israel sentiment,
[01:27:33] you're always going to fucking lose. And not only are you going to lose, you're also going to
[01:27:38] refuse to recognize that the bottom fell out of like, you know, any kind of,
[01:27:45] any kind of combating of anti-Semitism in this country. The bottom fell out a long time ago.
[01:27:49] These guys don't realize this so they just keep fucking pumping this narrative over and over again
[01:27:54] Oh look like even this guy is uh, who's saying he's simply combating uh,
[01:28:00] Zionism is actually saying that uh, all Jews are violent and and he's violent too
[01:28:06] He's violent towards Jews. Did you not realize he's violent towards Jews? But why not endorse Milton resistance? Oh my god
[01:28:12] Oh my god. Are you fucking brain dead? Are you fucking brain dead? I literally just said I misspoke
[01:28:19] I should have said, I don't endorse all forms of militant resistance, but that doesn't mean
[01:28:25] I don't endorse militant resistance.
[01:28:27] But of course, of course, there are fucking dumb fucks who heard me say that and not my
[01:28:32] commentary beyond it.
[01:28:34] There have been a million instances where I've told you what my position on this is.
[01:28:41] Why?
[01:28:43] Why are you so dishonest?
[01:28:49] It was sure okay with Israel as is we're just not we're just not okay with certain things that the Israeli government is doing
[01:28:55] Which is that is totally legitimate like for someone to say like I'm okay with America
[01:29:00] I just want to do with what President Trump is doing right or I was a kid with America
[01:29:03] I didn't do the president Biden was doing right that's normal
[01:29:06] Mm-hmm, but when there are people who say that the country is more evil than the terrorists to blow up
[01:29:12] Yeah, dog
[01:29:13] Sorry sucks to suck but yes the people fucking resisting against 80 years of apartheid and occupation and
[01:29:19] Blowing up little babies in their fucking homes and inside of their incubators murdering them inside of their incubators is worse
[01:29:26] Is worse than the people fighting back against that? Sorry
[01:29:33] Yeah, he said I hate Rose but respect Rhodesia in principle I
[01:29:38] Hate Adolf Hitler, but respect Nazi Germany in principle. See how stupid that is?
[01:29:43] is dumb, is dumb as fuck, and even the silliest person, even the dumbest person can understand
[01:29:52] how fucking stupid this sounds. Especially because let's be real, this is the other side
[01:29:57] of the story, and I've said this for years, if you've been in here long enough, you know
[01:30:02] this, you've heard me say this, it is far more difficult to explain to an American the
[01:30:06] concept of anti-genocide and principled anti-Zionism than it is to educate an American on anti-Semitism
[01:30:13] and make them anti-Semitic. Okay? And these guys make that far, far, far more difficult
[01:30:19] to create an environment that is safe for Jews, that actually fights back against anti-Semitism,
[01:30:26] while simultaneously is principled in their anti-Zionist, anti-Fascist, anti-Genocide
[01:30:30] stance. Okay? That's it. Americans understand simple narratives. And it's a very simple
[01:30:37] narrative to say, Jews control the media, Jews control finance, Jews control American
[01:30:41] foreign policy, Jews control American domestic policy, especially when you have prominent
[01:30:45] Jewish people that sit on a, sit, like, look at this, look, look, like this, this right
[01:30:51] here is creating anti-Semitism.
[01:30:54] You're sitting inside of a fucking mass surveillance room, okay?
[01:30:59] And you got this dumb fuck being like, yeah, all these people that criticize Israel, like,
[01:31:06] they just don't do it the way I want them to do it.
[01:31:08] is us surveilling them all across the country. What do you think people are going to look
[01:31:13] at this and think? They're going to go, wow. Wow. There's a real fucking headquarters
[01:31:20] where they're doing, like a villain layer. There's a headquarters for finding, you know,
[01:31:31] finding Americans, identifying Americans and surveilling Americans to make sure that they're
[01:31:34] not doing wrong think? What do you think the average cornbread
[01:31:42] Iowan is gonna think when they fucking see this? If they encounter this image alone, frame
[01:31:48] one they're gonna be like oh my god, oh my god, this is cartoonishly evil. It's like
[01:31:59] Fucking villain layer where you're mass-surveying
[01:32:04] Yeah, ADL got a whole ass back cave. Are we gonna talk about this?
[01:32:13] Buses and try to intentionally kill civilians like something's wrong with that. I think that's kind of yeah, you know what's wrong
[01:32:19] You know, it's the difference. You know, what's the the reality?
[01:32:24] There is from the perspective of those who were killed
[01:32:27] Functionally, no difference between a bus bombing and an American missile that blows up an entire city block.
[01:32:34] As a matter of fact, the American missile that blows up an entire city block kills more people, okay?
[01:32:39] That's it. The underlying hidden premise here, that is not so hidden, is that Jonathan Greenbott doesn't think victims of Israel are human beings,
[01:32:49] because he is a supremacist, because he's a fucking fascist. That's it.
[01:32:54] That's the big difference between someone like myself is someone like Jonathan Greenblatt. I
[01:32:59] Think Jews are human beings and so are Arabs who are not Jewish. Okay. That's the difference. He doesn't he only thinks one group is
[01:33:09] Valuable that's the problem. He only thinks one he only recognizes humanity of one group are recognizing humanity of both groups
[01:33:15] That's the problem
[01:33:17] So fucking disingenuous, kind of a warped set of values, I really do.
[01:33:30] It's clear that the ongoing conflicts in the Middle East are changing the way that Americans
[01:33:34] view Israel's government and America's decades-long relationship.
[01:33:38] And here's the thing, like, this is also a not-so-subtle disciplining operation, right?
[01:33:43] to be like, there's only one appropriate way to fucking, there's only my way to criticize
[01:33:49] Israel. You have to criticize Israel my way. And it's like, well, you don't get to have
[01:33:53] any legitimacy in this process. You know that, right? You don't get to have any legitimacy
[01:33:58] if we've heard the way you talk about Israel, okay? At most, I'll listen to fucking Peter
[01:34:05] Beynar and I'll have my reasonable disagreements with him. And that's fine. But you don't get
[01:34:10] to have a say in this, Jonathan Greenblatt. That's it. That's the problem. Like, why do
[01:34:24] you think you get to surveil the way people criticize Israel? Like, what the fuck is this
[01:34:29] nonsense? Why do you think you get to have a say in the way people criticize Israel? Like,
[01:34:35] most people don't give a shit about this. Most people don't have this consideration.
[01:34:38] Why would they have this consideration?
[01:34:42] With Israel.
[01:34:43] But it's also very clear that anti-Semitism is reaching extremity-
[01:34:47] Peter Brinand would be considered anti-Semitism.
[01:34:49] Yes, I think Peter Brinand is great.
[01:34:52] We have some disagreements, but it doesn't matter at the end of the day because I think
[01:34:55] he's a legitimate voice who recognizes the humanity of Palestinians, right?
[01:35:00] Like he might have his old, old-guy concerns with the way that I use my language, right?
[01:35:05] we've had a long extensive conversation about, we've had a long and extensive conversation
[01:35:12] about like me saying that Zionism is Nazism, like he takes offense to that. But at the end of the
[01:35:17] day, that doesn't get in the way of us, you know, coalescing around a peace and emancipation for
[01:35:23] Palestinians. So it's fine. Those are some disagreements that we have. It doesn't matter,
[01:35:29] right? It's secondary. He is someone who is, at the end of the day, a person who's invested in the
[01:35:38] emancipatory cause, right? I'm grateful that I spent- Yeah, brilliant take for Peter Brigham
[01:35:50] on pro-Israelis who kept calling anyone that said, Israel is withholding food from Gaza,
[01:35:54] anti-Semitic, immediately shipped to their target boat with Israel officially and publicly
[01:35:57] withheld food to, of course, Israel is withheld food. What are you crazy? You think they should be
[01:36:00] feeding their enemies? Their standard is what Israel does is right, and it should never be subject
[01:36:04] to any international or American pressure. And those are the terms of which you have to defend
[01:36:08] that change. That's what I mean by the, by a position of worship rather than a position of support,
[01:36:12] which I think is de facto idolatry. This clip from a lecture attended, I attended Peter two weeks
[01:36:17] ago in Vienna. Peter here highlights the argument that Israel supporters used to justify apartheid
[01:36:21] against Palestinians are identical to use, to those used by South Africa as apartheid regime.
[01:36:26] There are people who are trying to kill us. Apartheid is protecting us from those guys.
[01:36:29] How well did equality work for the rest of Africa? When you look at Congo,
[01:36:32] Nigeria, and Zimbabwe, do you see flourishing liberal democracies? We understand what Africa is like.
[01:36:46] Injurious levels. Evident by the real world violence against Jews.
[01:36:51] We've been dealing with anti-Semitism since 1913, but we've been systematically tracking it for almost 50 years.
[01:36:58] In 2025 was one of the most violent periods we've seen in memory.
[01:37:02] Over 200 acts of violence committed against Jewish people in 2025, out of a total of 6,200 some-eyed anti-Semitic incidents.
[01:37:11] Synagogues, schools, offices like this one, literally, they're fortified like citadels with bulletproof glass and security guards and alarm systems.
[01:37:20] But the truth is, every Jewish establishment, every place where Jewish people walk, or where
[01:37:27] they shop, or where they socialize, you can't live behind barbed wire and walls, which is
[01:37:34] why ultimately anti-Semitism is everyone's problem.
[01:37:37] Whether you're on the left or the right, anti-Semitism is indeed everyone's problem.
[01:37:42] And that's true, even for Jews who are somewhere in the middle, supporters of Israel who are
[01:37:47] outwardly opposed to prime minister Netanyahu and his government.
[01:37:52] Either Israel is always right and you can't force that.
[01:37:55] Oh my God, here we go, Jeremy Ben-Ami. I would love to have a combo with him.
[01:38:01] See, I would love to have a combo.
[01:38:03] Because Jeremy Ben-Ami at least is going to be a little bit more reasonable
[01:38:06] than fucking Jonathan Greenblatt.
[01:38:08] But I'm down to have a conversation with him.
[01:38:10] You know, that's another guy who I'd love to talk to
[01:38:14] and explore the boundaries of his ideology and maybe the clear contradictions within
[01:38:19] liberal Zionism.
[01:38:21] Oh, my God.
[01:38:32] But once again, this makes no fucking sense.
[01:38:36] You don't get to dictate how people fucking criticize Israel.
[01:38:40] You can complain about anti-Semitism, but I would say as someone who is a steadfast advocate
[01:38:48] against anti-Semitism, you probably shouldn't put me in the fucking crosshairs.
[01:38:52] You can keep doing it if you want.
[01:38:54] Not saying Jeremy Ben-Ami does this, because I think he has disagreements with what I've
[01:38:58] said about Hamas and whatnot, but he doesn't, the J Street guys won't go so far as to say
[01:39:02] Hasan is anti-Semitic, at least in public, okay?
[01:39:05] At least on camera, right?
[01:39:07] like obviously Jonathan Greenblatt traffics in this ridiculous nonsense on a daily basis.
[01:39:13] Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Nobody gets the cats out of the bag, right? Israel is a
[01:39:22] pariah state. You don't get to fucking determine how people talk about it any longer, especially
[01:39:28] when the violence that Israel has contributed to in daily Palestinian existence and daily
[01:39:33] Lebanese existence is far greater than the hypothetical violence in the future that you
[01:39:39] are trying to prevent by claiming that like anti-Semitism is going to grow and that there's
[01:39:43] going to be violence that happens in the future. Because one is happening right now,
[01:39:47] the other one is potentially going to happen in the future. And then to package that up with,
[01:39:53] to package that argument up with, you know, what I'm doing as like also increasing that
[01:40:01] likelihood of violence in the future is fucking insane. It's insincere and it's also leading to
[01:40:07] more anti-Semitism. Well, oh, it's wrong and it's the worst country in the world and the
[01:40:11] truth lies somewhere in the middle and so does the majority of the largest
[01:40:15] group of American Jews and their opinions lie in the middle. Our organization is here to advocate
[01:40:20] for that to try to change American policy and also change the public conversation to have space to
[01:40:26] to have that difficult conversation.
[01:40:29] J Street is a liberal Zionist advocacy lobby group
[01:40:33] based in Washington, DC.
[01:40:34] The group describes itself as the political home
[01:40:37] and voice for pro-Israel, pro-peace,
[01:40:40] pro-democracy Americans.
[01:40:42] J Street opposes the current Israeli government
[01:40:46] and its policies, but it also doesn't support
[01:40:49] the more extreme opinions of far left commentators
[01:40:52] like Piker either.
[01:40:54] I have to be what's called a liberal Zionist.
[01:40:56] I believe that in the founding of the State of Israel, there were certain promises made
[01:41:01] and certain commitments made about the type of state it was going to be, that it would
[01:41:04] provide equality for all, regardless of their race and their religion and their gender,
[01:41:09] that it would be a light unto the nations, that it would pursue.
[01:41:13] Yeah, what makes this funny is pre-October 7th, the ADL praised me for fighting anti-Semitism
[01:41:17] in my chat and in AOC's chat as well.
[01:41:19] through the rule of law and equality under the law.
[01:41:22] And that, to me, is my Zionism.
[01:41:25] But the debate over what Zionism is
[01:41:27] has been going on for 130 years
[01:41:29] within the Jewish community.
[01:41:31] And this Netanyahu, Benvir, Smotrich,
[01:41:34] right-wing vision of Zionism is not what I mean
[01:41:39] when I say I believe in Zionism.
[01:41:41] I'm curious as to whether you...
[01:41:42] Dave, fully just dropped discussing
[01:41:44] Fuentes and Fishback.
[01:41:45] This video is only about you now.
[01:41:47] I know.
[01:41:48] think the majority of the conversation that's going on about the relationship between America
[01:41:53] and Israel is of that format at the moment, or is it being dominated by more sort of shrill or
[01:41:59] louder voices? A very difficult part of what you do must be attempting to counteract the
[01:42:05] nick-point of the world. Do you think that they have a lot of influence in how people think about
[01:42:10] Israel? Well, I think you can look at the polling and you can see the influence the more that you're
[01:42:15] 30 seconds of a soundbite can get just clipped and sent around the more you're going to have
[01:42:20] an influence these days. This is not limited just to the anti-Semitism question or the Israel
[01:42:26] question but folks on the right and folks on the left using the most outrageous possible language
[01:42:31] and having no folks on the left to have an hour long conversation that gets into nuance and
[01:42:37] that's bullshit. That's bullshit challenge for Jeremy Benamy. Let's do it. Live streamed.
[01:42:44] No censorship. No editing. No cuts. Love to have you on the broadcast
[01:42:49] Would love to have you on the broadcast for as long as you want to talk we can have a conversation about this
[01:42:55] Would love that
[01:42:57] Bullshit, I did fucking two hours with the guy you're talking to and he put like three seconds in it to just
[01:43:06] Shop up my fucking statements to be like see he's just the same as James fishback. That was insane
[01:43:12] I sat down with James Fishback and talk with him for an hour and I said, you know, look you say you want to have this conversation about Israeli influence in American politics, but then you go and you use terms like goyslop, which is a specific anti-Semitic dog whistle and you know exactly what you're doing.
[01:43:32] Obviously, the criticism and the virulent language that somebody like Hassan Pika uses,
[01:43:39] I would argue is certainly not helpful.
[01:43:41] And I pressed him on that and I pushed him on that and I said, you know,
[01:43:44] every time you say I'm a thousand times more in support of Hamas than I am of Israel.
[01:43:49] Yes, it gets views, but it also sort of cheapens this conversation.
[01:43:53] And it takes the focus away from the more reasoned debate.
[01:43:55] Both of those sides are not helping when it comes to having this conversation.
[01:44:00] I think that's bullshit.
[01:44:02] Yeah, also, Fishback is evasive about the Holocaust.
[01:44:08] Why the fuck are you talking about Goyslop, my man?
[01:44:11] You pressed them on the Holocaust.
[01:44:14] Perhaps it's because, perhaps it's because you got to hit it on like, oh, well, he's
[01:44:18] just, he says he's just joking.
[01:44:20] But when he's talking about, when he's evasive about the Holocaust, he's not joking, right?
[01:44:26] That's fantasy, right?
[01:44:27] We spend a lot more time, who's more dangerous?
[01:44:31] Fuentes or Hassan Piker and which words matter more or less and that's interesting, but I think from a human
[01:44:38] Point of view, how are we going to make less people die over the course of the years and decades ahead?
[01:44:43] Jay Street and I will spend more of our time trying to talk through well, what should American policy be?
[01:44:49] How do we get the Israeli government and the governments of the Arab countries and the leadership of the Palestinian authority?
[01:44:56] How do we get them to begin building on a different path towards actually ending this conflict?
[01:45:01] So we stop having the people on the right and the left going at this this way.
[01:45:04] And so many of us in this middle space are trying to show
[01:45:08] too young people that there are voices on the other side and try to elicit a little bit of empathy to try to match the anger and
[01:45:15] use that empathy say, okay, there's a human being on the other side of this. It's not some horrible monster
[01:45:21] the figment of your imagination.
[01:45:24] It's a human being with a family, with kids,
[01:45:25] and a desire to raise their kids in peace.
[01:45:28] And that's who's on the other side of all of this.
[01:45:31] Ben Ami makes an important point about the dangers
[01:45:34] of clippable moments overtaking real, nuanced discussion
[01:45:38] on ending the conflicts in the Middle East.
[01:45:41] But you could also argue that the damage
[01:45:43] is already being done here in America.
[01:45:45] Politicians like Fishback and even some on the left
[01:45:49] who've used anti-Semitic talking points
[01:45:51] like defeated Democratic congressional candidate Maureen Galindo,
[01:45:54] are making headlines and drawing crowds with their vulgar punchy lines.
[01:46:00] And supporters, like the Gropers, who agree with Fishback's
[01:46:03] extreme rhetoric about Jewish people, are going to the polls
[01:46:07] and casting their votes. So what can be done?
[01:46:10] Well, for our part, with this series, we hope to cut through the vulgar and short clips.
[01:46:16] Yeah, you really did. You really did that by fucking clipping me.
[01:46:21] From a two-hour fucking conversation where I addressed virtually every single counter
[01:46:29] without even hearing Benamy's take, without hearing Jonathan Greenblatt's take, you asked
[01:46:34] me about these opinions, I delivered to you my perspective, and you fucking straight up
[01:46:41] only use like two minutes, man, that's nasty business.
[01:46:45] God, what a fucking hack job this was.
[01:46:48] Holy shit.
[01:46:49] with real conversations.
[01:46:51] And we also tried to have another real discussion
[01:46:55] with two of our subjects
[01:46:56] to hopefully build some kind of new understanding.
[01:46:59] I asked Hassan Piker and Jonathan Greenblatt on camera
[01:47:03] if they would sit down for a conversation with each other,
[01:47:07] with me moderating.
[01:47:08] Piker said, yes, immediately.
[01:47:11] Wild idea, if we could broker it,
[01:47:12] would you sit down with them?
[01:47:13] With Jonathan Greenblatt?
[01:47:15] I would love to.
[01:47:16] I would love to have a conversation
[01:47:17] with Jonathan Greenblatt.
[01:47:18] I'll post the same question to him.
[01:47:20] Greenblatt was a bit more cautious.
[01:47:23] We've talked a lot about Hassan Piker here.
[01:47:25] He claims he's tried to sit down with you guys
[01:47:28] and tried to talk to you.
[01:47:29] When was that?
[01:47:30] He said earlier, I don't know.
[01:47:32] He's claimed, that's his claim to you.
[01:47:33] Would you sit down with him?
[01:47:35] Would you sit down with him and me in a room
[01:47:38] and have a conversation?
[01:47:39] Look, I'll sit down and talk to anyone.
[01:47:41] My only red line is if you dehumanize others.
[01:47:44] Has he crossed that line?
[01:47:46] Well, yeah, and saying that, you know, Zionists, the things said about Zionists, I think absolutely
[01:47:51] cross the line and create the space where it seems legitimate to murder Jewish people.
[01:47:56] That's fucking insane.
[01:47:58] Okay.
[01:47:59] I've never said that.
[01:48:00] Shut the fuck up.
[01:48:02] I don't think that I've never said that.
[01:48:04] You're a bitch.
[01:48:06] Oh, you know, if you would acknowledge the legitimacy of Zionism.
[01:48:13] This is the nefarious part, okay?
[01:48:17] This was clipped and I made a joke about this, but this is the nefarious part because he
[01:48:23] starts out with like, he dehumanized Jews, I don't, right?
[01:48:27] And then he turns around and goes, bro said, I debate him on anti-Zionism.
[01:48:30] If he simply concedes that Zionism is good and legitimate ahead of time.
[01:48:36] The Zionists have the same right as everyone else.
[01:48:39] Even people whose views we don't like, that would be an important step forward.
[01:48:43] The offer still stands.
[01:48:50] Ridiculous shit, dude.
[01:48:52] Totally ridiculous.
[01:48:53] Yeah, you can only disagree with me if you agree with me.
[01:49:03] Is crazy.
[01:49:05] Yeah, why the fuck does it dude?
[01:49:09] Israel defenders are on a level of entitlement I have never seen in my entire life, where
[01:49:18] it's not just like the nation-state, it's now the underpinning ideology that also should have
[01:49:24] extra special rights.
[01:49:32] You know what I mean? It's crazy. We've moved past like, does Israel have a right to exist to like
[01:49:39] To does Zionism you have to concede that Zionism and ethno-religious supremacist ideology like Nazism
[01:49:48] Has to be considered legitimate
[01:49:51] And good before we can even argue on why it's illegitimate
[01:49:56] That's insane dude
[01:50:03] That's insane, what do you mean?
[01:50:05] I've never seen such nefarious propaganda. He wrapped up doing the article from today
[01:50:12] to Nick Fuentes, the Sompiker click by click anti-Semezon goes mainstream. Yeah, I see
[01:50:17] that. He literally fucking, he literally compared me to Nick Fuentes and James Fishback. And
[01:50:28] then it puts an annual study by Tel Aviv University found that 20 people had been killed in anti-Semitic
[01:50:32] attacks like implying that I'm responsible for this. It's such a nasty, nasty fucking
[01:50:40] hit job. And the irony is, it doesn't work. So who is this for? Who is this for? If not,
[01:50:49] a handful of people who are like terrified of Israel becoming a pariah state who still
[01:50:57] have this mentality that like it can't do anything wrong.
[01:51:08] No wonder the channel gets 1000 views of video for 8 million subs, holy moly that was such
[01:51:12] a horrible entirely biased journalism.
[01:51:20] Anyway, this was for Fox News to corroborate with another new news agency law, clearly
[01:51:38] cheap setup paid for.
[01:51:40] Yeah.
[01:51:41] Now, this is to, this is to like break out of the, I mean, it's over now.
[01:51:46] They already do this regardless.
[01:51:47] So it's like too late.
[01:51:50] But for the longest time, the criticisms that I received, the cynical, ridiculous criticisms
[01:51:55] I received, mostly just came from like New York Post, mostly came from like Fox News,
[01:52:01] Daily Mail, right?
[01:52:03] So there was an appetite from the ADL and all these other like Zionist advocacy organizations
[01:52:10] to try to make this not look so right-wing and so one-sided.
[01:52:15] So like the USA Today took up that mantle to like normalize, you know, Hassan Piker
[01:52:21] is an anti-Semite to a liberal audience.
[01:52:24] The problem is, it's too late for that.
[01:52:27] You know?
[01:52:28] It's too late.
[01:52:29] It's not going to work.
[01:52:33] You know?
[01:52:34] It's not.
[01:52:35] Here's Peter Bynart comparing apartheid South Africa to Israel.
[01:52:38] I think I'm grateful that I spent a significant part of my childhood in the apartheid South
[01:52:42] because I'm able to remember, because now I think when people, almost everybody tends
[01:52:48] to think about defenses of apartheid, they think about it as people who were utterly
[01:52:52] benighted and absurd and racist and how could anyone have been so vile and stupid as to
[01:52:59] believe that.
[01:53:00] But when I was in that environment as a child, in its own space, it didn't seem absurd at
[01:53:07] all.
[01:53:08] It seemed like it had a pretty clear logic to it.
[01:53:10] And I think the logic is pretty similar to the logic that I very, very frequently hear
[01:53:15] people in my own community invoke about Israel.
[01:53:17] The logic was something like, sure, apartheid may not be lovely or pretty, but you have
[01:53:23] to admit that there are people who are trying to kill us.
[01:53:26] We're not making that up.
[01:53:28] I mean, in American discourse, Nelson Mandela has been turned into this kind of Gandhi-esque
[01:53:33] figure.
[01:53:34] But that's not true.
[01:53:35] He's actually one of the people who helped turn the ANC away from nonviolence because
[01:53:38] because he believed non-violence had failed, the ANC was considered a terrorist organization
[01:53:43] by the United States, it was getting its arms from the Soviet Union, and it was devoted
[01:53:47] to armed resistance, it wasn't very good at it, but it was devoted to armed resistance,
[01:53:53] and so the, and so White South Africans looked at it in contiguities with the military, the
[01:53:58] ANC, and they said, apartheid is protecting us from these guys, who very clearly are trying
[01:54:02] to kill us. And so you are coming from you, you know, woke liberal, it means the word
[01:54:08] woke, but they would have, you know, you woke naive liberal who don't understand anything
[01:54:12] about our part of the world, are coming and telling us to take away the shield that protects
[01:54:17] us and leave us merciless. Why is that a risk that we would possibly want to take, right,
[01:54:24] based on your morality? And they would also say, by the way, how well has it worked in
[01:54:27] the rest of Africa, right? When we look at Congo and Nigeria and Zimbabwe and Kenya,
[01:54:31] We see flourishing, you know, liberal democracies.
[01:54:34] So we're going to take a risk based on this
[01:54:36] when we understand what Africa is actually like, right?
[01:54:40] And I think that, you know, in some ways, in retrospect,
[01:54:44] it seems we can understand the flaw in that logic.
[01:54:46] But I think it's worth just spelling it out, right?
[01:54:49] The Mkhonto with Sizzway was a response
[01:54:53] to a state that did not give Black South Africans
[01:54:55] a nonviolent mechanism of having the state respond
[01:55:00] to their interests, right?
[01:55:01] Once Black South Africans got the right to vote,
[01:55:04] and Mandela was very, very, as you might say,
[01:55:07] Machmir on this question, he would not abandon
[01:55:10] the armed resistance until literally there was a date
[01:55:14] for a free election.
[01:55:15] At the end, by the end in the 80s,
[01:55:17] the South Africans were quite desperate
[01:55:19] to let him out of prison.
[01:55:20] They were afraid he was gonna die in jail
[01:55:21] and the more radical figures were.
[01:55:23] They asked him again and again,
[01:55:24] I think I've read one six times,
[01:55:26] we will let you out if you only force wear violence.
[01:55:29] And he said, I will not force, I'm just, the IRA took the same position.
[01:55:33] We will not force wear violence and photo wear weapons until we are,
[01:55:37] it is clear that we are going to have our rights.
[01:55:40] But once the blacks and Africans did have their rights,
[01:55:42] there was no need for Imkonti with Cisway to exist.
[01:55:45] Bro, I got ops in my home, okay?
[01:55:47] I have opened my home to the opposition, okay?
[01:55:52] And I got ops in my chat because not a single person let it peep about where
[01:55:58] fuck my chair had gone while I was taking a goddamn piss. Okay? Ridiculous. Ridiculous.
[01:56:09] Ops in my home. Ops everywhere. Why do I need the massage up my ass? When I got the massage,
[01:56:16] the Hassad, the Hassanabi massage, I opened my home to these people, okay? I opened my
[01:56:26] I open my home to these people, I open my home to the chat.
[01:56:31] Ridiculous.
[01:56:38] Yeah, guard dog is not guarding shit.
[01:56:43] You ain't guarding shit.
[01:56:49] What kind of guard dog?
[01:56:52] What kind of guard dog are you?
[01:56:54] Huh?
[01:56:56] Going.
[01:57:05] Ridiculous.
[01:57:09] Free Carla.
[01:57:26] Oh
[01:57:56] I
[01:58:03] Was kind of Haley the heat there is no heat in this house we got
[01:58:09] Ring California, we're not in fucking communist New York. There's no 78 degrees principle out here. Okay
[01:58:16] She's so fat and beautiful she is she really is I
[01:58:20] Love your super that ties wagdog. I disagree. I think this is a cool tie
[01:58:26] I think you're wrong
[01:58:30] You just have a pepper shaker on your desk and now it's salt
[01:58:35] Or when I eat food on my desk every day
[01:58:38] Because blacks and Africans had the vote and they had a nonviolent mechanism to have the
[01:58:55] state listen to them.
[01:58:56] And that's, I think, it was this, you know, it was this lack of understanding of the interplay
[01:59:02] between oppression and armed resistance that I think the people that I spent much of my
[01:59:07] my childhood among South Africans did not understand.
[01:59:11] They also, I think, looked correctly
[01:59:15] at the fact that African countries were not
[01:59:18] doing particularly well in terms of liberal democracy
[01:59:21] or even political stability and drew certain essentialized
[01:59:25] conclusions from that, which they would off,
[01:59:28] and then they would have to say, well, you know,
[01:59:29] this is the way things are in Africa.
[01:59:32] And I'm very struck because I constantly hear
[01:59:34] American Jews and often Israeli Jews tell me
[01:59:36] that the idea of equality under the law
[01:59:39] would not be possible in Israel-Palestine
[01:59:40] because this is the Middle East.
[01:59:43] But I actually never heard a Palestinian say that.
[01:59:47] And I never heard a black South African say that either.
[01:59:49] And it wasn't because blacks and Africans thought
[01:59:51] that the political system in Congo and Nigeria was great,
[01:59:54] but they understood that the particular problems
[01:59:57] of these countries came from a particular historical
[01:59:59] trajectory from colonialism and Cold War,
[02:00:02] just like they do in Iraq or Syria or Egypt
[02:00:06] and whatever. And I think that memory from apartheid South Africa really has struck me
[02:00:12] because the kind of basic logic of the idea of defending Jewish supremacy, a system in
[02:00:19] which Jews have legal supremacy over Palestinians, I think is so similar. It's basically the
[02:00:24] idea that only supremacy can keep you safe. And it's particularly odd that it's so frequently
[02:00:29] invoked by American Jews, given that American Jews in our own country, right, are actually
[02:00:36] betting the safety of our own children on the maintenance of equality under the law
[02:00:41] and that Americans, Jews that around the world who live in liberal democracies, are actually significantly safer
[02:00:47] than Israel is, right? Because I think in large part because Jewish supremacy produces tremendous violence
[02:00:52] which then produces a counter-violence which makes everybody...
[02:00:56] Yep.
[02:01:00] Yep.
[02:01:01] His point is that violence, born out of the maintenance of the apartheid, which is an unbelievably
[02:01:15] violent affair, is inevitably going to lead to violence in its resistance.
[02:01:20] That was Peter Beinart, right?
[02:01:24] That was Peter Beinart, who has a fairly decent grasp on these affairs.
[02:01:30] He cooks all the time.
[02:01:32] We might have like certain disagreements on the language that I use or whatever, but ultimately
[02:01:35] it's irrelevant.
[02:01:36] It's secondary because I do think that he, he has a, a, a great grasp on this shit.
[02:01:42] Hey, house and I, I've been on your day now for like five years and I've never taken
[02:01:46] the chance to say you, to say thank you for being such a financially available form of
[02:01:50] entertainment for me.
[02:01:51] As long as I've been able, I've been subscribed and you have only made your channel more affordable
[02:01:55] as opposed to YouTube and Netflix that are getting worse and worse.
[02:01:57] So thanks man.
[02:01:58] You got it.
[02:01:59] Of course, once again, the only form of support for the Piker Broadcasting Service comes from
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[02:02:28] And we get to level 10, we carry the flame on the Hassanabi broadcast on PBS, the People's Broadcasting Service, Piker Broadcasting Service.
[02:02:48] Cool, Ty. How much the Hufflepuff pay you, you shill? It's my dad's, Ty.
[02:02:51] Anyway, um, are you on Zinn 9 Ultras now?
[02:03:05] Um, I think I got one pack of Zinn 9 Ultras.
[02:03:11] Wait, what the fuck?
[02:03:19] Witticombe was murdered?
[02:03:24] No, what the fuck and Witticombe?
[02:03:28] Police launch investigation into the death of former UK MP and Witticombe police shooting and Witticombe's death is murder and hunting for
[02:03:34] White male suspect after body found with serious injuries UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer appeals for public self-identified dangerous suspect
[02:03:44] What the fuck
[02:03:49] They said not politically motivated. Wait, what? What could it be?
[02:04:01] Man arrested on suspicion of murdering former UK politician. A police said they had arrested
[02:04:04] a 26 year old British man after Anne Woodacombe, a 78 year old former lawmaker was found dead
[02:04:09] with serious injuries on Thursday.
[02:04:18] It's cool she was cunt. I mean she was a common joke on this broadcast. And Whittacomb was,
[02:04:32] but you know that's insane. Yeah, I used to do her voice back in the day. A 26 year old
[02:04:45] man has been arrested on suspicion of murder and connection to the death of Ann Whittacombe,
[02:04:48] the man who's a white British national remains in police custody. I like that they have to
[02:04:52] reveal the race of the fucking assailant so that there aren't race riots and hide it if
[02:05:01] it is a brown guy, in which case there are race riots. It won't stop people from doing
[02:05:06] race riots anyway. I feel like, I feel like no matter what happens, no matter what happens,
[02:05:17] the British public loves doing race riots. Anyway, let's get to, let's get to Israel
[02:05:24] and Iran. Obviously, the MOU is dead in the water now, at least according to Donald Trump.
[02:05:33] the situation is active, it's fluid.
[02:05:37] We're gonna be monitoring that.
[02:05:38] We'll get to the Anne Woodicombe news later.
[02:05:41] But before we do that, let's start with Israel
[02:05:46] telling the United States of an Iranian plot
[02:05:49] to assassinate Trump, new report says.
[02:05:52] Maki Zanin, thank you for the 20 give-this-us.
[02:05:54] It is on the conflict with Iran and a stunning report
[02:05:57] that the country was planning to assassinate President Trump.
[02:06:00] The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday
[02:06:02] Israel shared that intelligence about it with the U.S. All this coming is tensions between the U.S.
[02:06:07] and Iran remain high after the latest air and missile strikes. Charlie Daggett has more from
[02:06:11] Washington. Charlie, good morning. Good morning to you, Kelly. The fighting this week has been by
[02:06:17] far the most serious escalation we've seen since the U.S. and Iran signed the framework last month.
[02:06:22] It was supposed to lead to a more permanent peace agreement. And although last night was quiet for
[02:06:26] the first time in days. Hey, are you happy? Israel's now going to get a pro-APAC pro-genocide
[02:06:30] Senator Mayn now that you led the mob in cooping the voters of Maine. Oh, damn. We got, we got
[02:06:37] Grand Plattener dead enders in here. That's crazy. Here, if you are, if you're 100% in support of
[02:06:44] Grand Plattener, I mean, there's a reasonable suspicion in his background, considering that his,
[02:06:50] you know, brother-in-law was, and it still is, I think, a FDD guy. So, you know, if the, if the
[02:06:58] The credible rape allegations were not enough for you.
[02:07:02] You know, there's a, there's, there's at least like ample suspicion that you could
[02:07:07] have due to his brother-in-law.
[02:07:09] Ace, that fragile ceasefire is barely holding together.
[02:07:18] Are you talking like bad empanada now?
[02:07:20] No, I'm not.
[02:07:22] Um, I, I, here's the thing.
[02:07:26] I didn't.
[02:07:27] I think I had a fairly reasonable assessment with Grand Planner, which is why it pissed
[02:07:32] off everybody, right?
[02:07:35] I looked at the red flags, I pointed to them, nowhere near as much as like his Reddit posts
[02:07:40] and Reddit history, especially like detailing his experiences.
[02:07:44] I chalked that up to like, you know, a hurrah, grunt, greatly embellishing and thinking that
[02:07:50] was hot shit and cool, okay?
[02:07:55] And I took a very centrist approach to the Grand Platinum situation, recognizing the
[02:08:01] red flags while also simultaneously saying that he was a far better option with the readily
[02:08:07] available information at the time, far better option than Janet Mills and also far better
[02:08:14] option than Susan Collins.
[02:08:17] For that reason, a lot of people got mad at me and they said, no, you should actually
[02:08:20] write him out across the board.
[02:08:22] You should write him out immediately.
[02:08:24] It turns out those people were vindicated when new evidence came out, okay?
[02:08:31] When new evidence came out.
[02:08:32] Now, here's the thing.
[02:08:34] I wanted to also identify certain red flags myself.
[02:08:40] What is this?
[02:08:41] Been watching you for years and always thought you were always smart, but this is an audience
[02:08:44] captured shit.
[02:08:45] No.
[02:08:46] It's ironic because everyone says that.
[02:08:49] And they've said that for years and years.
[02:08:52] And it's really funny because most of the positions that I have, well, all the positions
[02:09:00] that I have are just my genuine perspective, but a lot of the positions that I take on
[02:09:05] issues such as this one, when there is like, you know, nuance involved, end up pissing
[02:09:10] everybody off because most people just want black and white.
[02:09:14] Most people want unconditional support or unconditional enmity.
[02:09:21] And it's interesting that my cautiously optimistic perspective where I always hedged my approach
[02:09:29] to Graham Platner, the demands that I made to his team over and over again that were
[02:09:34] very favorable initially and became not so favorable after I started calling out some
[02:09:42] of these red flags, including the tattoo, including his background, including his, you
[02:09:47] you know, CV, Blackwater tours, and try to get a better assessment on like where he was.
[02:09:55] Was he was he actually a real anti-war former veteran or was he actually simply playing a
[02:10:01] role? These are the questions that I had that I wanted to figure out. The campaign stopped
[02:10:07] talking to me after that. It just, you know, they avoided me like the plague. And some
[02:10:13] Some people might say, some people, yes, he's got Skeletons' Clause, but this was just objectively
[02:10:20] a coup against 150,000 voters in Maine.
[02:10:24] I think that even if you were to believe that the Democratic Party did everything that it
[02:10:30] can to rat fuck Graham Platner, I don't think you would like the results of leaving Graham
[02:10:38] Platner on the ticket, because there are always going to be people who saw that he had a credible
[02:10:46] rape allegation and decide not to vote for him. Can't find it within themselves to vote for him,
[02:10:52] many women, for example. And that's perfectly valid, and it's perfectly reasonable. And so,
[02:10:59] at that point, it doesn't even matter, even if you're making this like cold heart analysis,
[02:11:04] an immoral analysis or an amoral analysis, it still doesn't matter because Graham Platner is
[02:11:10] credibly accused of rape by a former partner. Okay? And the unfortunate reality is he's running
[02:11:19] as a Democrat, right? Unless the political piece falls apart as much as it already has,
[02:11:29] I don't think it has fallen apart. I don't think it has fallen apart as much as you think it has.
[02:11:39] So, dead-enders straight from r slash politics, Bernie Bro smears. Wait, what? I've called
[02:11:45] fucking Joe Brandon dead-enders and Kamala Harris dead-enders, dead-enders as well. What are you
[02:11:50] talking about? It's just that you can actually, you can actually consider a group of people who
[02:11:56] are still riding with a person after the person is like openly admitted that they're going to drop
[02:12:00] their campaign, uh, a dead ender because that's what it is. Once the campaign stopped answering,
[02:12:08] you should have called that out immediately. No. I mean, I, I mentioned it. I mentioned it over
[02:12:12] and over again, but it doesn't matter. Hassan, I've even wearing the suit too long. He's got
[02:12:17] DNC consultant brand. You were wrong about Kamala in 2024. You're wrong now. The establishment
[02:12:22] are pros, and the left is easily manipulated. Go look at local Facebook and news posts. Mainers
[02:12:29] are not buying this allegation. This is how the left loses. We do centrist work for them. What
[02:12:34] evidence? Contemporaneous conversations between the victim and other people, you know, third parties
[02:12:44] is a fairly reliable metric for assessing the accuracy of a claim.
[02:12:53] It's certainly enough to charge someone with sexual assaults, it's not enough to convict,
[02:12:59] there would probably be, it's very difficult to convict someone on rape in this current
[02:13:04] criminal justice system, contrary to what men's right activists and numerous other people
[02:13:08] say, but there is definitely enough to charge this person.
[02:13:14] So unless there is new information that has come out that shows that there isn't any timely
[02:13:21] conversations between grandplattner's victim and numerous other people, unless there's
[02:13:27] like new information that I'm not privy to, which even then I'd have to make a new assessment.
[02:13:35] The number of red flags, the additional things that he has said, paint a picture that I am
[02:13:41] uncomfortable with.
[02:13:52] I don't know why people are saying there isn't any contemporaneous evidence.
[02:13:58] political invented third parties that Graham Plattner's ex spoke to, like the ex-boyfriend,
[02:14:13] unless they invented that, which is fairly far-fetched.
[02:14:18] And to be fair, yes, political is owned by Axel Springer, who is an unbelievably pro-Israel
[02:14:25] person. So that is real. And there's a demand for a loyalty pledge to Israel from Axel himself.
[02:14:35] I just don't think that your assessment has to reach a certain standard. Your hypothesis can't be
[02:14:47] more far-fetched than the readily available evidence.
[02:15:11] Anyway, don't know why we're going back into the Grand Platinum
[02:15:15] allegations here
[02:15:16] uh... instead of talking about what's going on currently is real telling the
[02:15:21] uh... american government that the there's an iranian plot to assassinate
[02:15:24] trance fight between the u.s. and iran entered a dangerous new phase pushing the
[02:15:29] prospects for peace even further out of reach
[02:15:34] this latest back-and-forth kicked off after u.s. officials said iran fired on
[02:15:38] three commercial vessels earlier this week in the street
[02:15:43] actual Axel Springer is the German media group that owns political. Okay. Axel Springer was a
[02:15:51] massive, massive fucking Zionist. New owners claim, according to Times of Israel from September
[02:15:57] 1st, 2021, new owners won't make political employees sign pro-Israel mission statement,
[02:16:02] but Axel Springer, the German firm that bought the US news site, was such a staunch supporter of
[02:16:07] Israel that they would require the staff to play support to the Transatlantic Alliance and Israel.
[02:16:13] Okay.
[02:16:14] Right of Hormuz, a key shipping channel, particularly for oil.
[02:16:22] The Iranians want to control the straight and have shown they're willing to do it.
[02:16:26] I think the new.
[02:16:27] Yeah, the new CEO is also just as insane, though, regardless.
[02:16:30] Look, Matias Dufner, CEO of Axel Springer, declares himself as Highness to the world
[02:16:38] Jewish Congress and then calls for censorship of social media and the
[02:16:42] expulsion of anti-Semites from wherever legally possible. He insists that all
[02:16:47] European countries opens up borders to Jewish immigration in the name of
[02:16:52] diversity. Europe must become more Jewish, Daphne says. Now, some of this stuff is
[02:16:57] not that crazy. Like the way that this account is framing it is making it seem
[02:17:01] like it's this weird thing. But it is philosemitism. There is a classic
[02:17:06] German Philo Semitism that I don't know what it is, but it just there's a classic German Philo
[02:17:13] Semitism that you can clearly fucking spell out here. Okay.
[02:17:19] An idea and the goal that only Jews can embrace. I'm a goi.
[02:17:27] I love when these guys come out and they'll go to the world Jewish congress and be like,
[02:17:32] Well, I'm a go, so this is stupid, which is stupid, go brain that I have, I still understand how important Israel is.
[02:17:46] I am the stupid boy and I have the stupid go brain.
[02:17:51] And I'm a Zionist with all my heart out of conviction and with passion.
[02:18:02] First, we need a zero-tolerance policy towards open hatred of Jews.
[02:18:18] He's also known to reframe former Waffen SS logos and designism. He's fucking nuts.
[02:18:22] Yeah. There is, I will never understand. Like we got it. We got to investigate some, some
[02:18:28] of the Germans and their attitude towards Israel in the same way that, you know, you,
[02:18:35] you can only like do a, an autopsy analysis to like study the brains of football players
[02:18:42] to figure out like what level of CTE they had. You know, that's like, that's how I feel
[02:18:47] about some Germans like the way that they approach the situation is so wild and it's like this is
[02:18:54] weird like idolatry fetishization um it's just not something that you would experience in the real
[02:19:02] world at all.
[02:19:13] All anti-Semites in world indeed, regardless of their origin, must be expelled wherever
[02:19:21] legally possible.
[02:19:23] British politician and Conservative Party leader Cami Badenok put it clearly and courageously,
[02:19:29] I quote, anything that's inciting violence against Jews
[02:19:34] has got to go, quote end.
[02:19:36] We need this statement and its consequences not only
[02:19:39] in Britain, but in every democratic country.
[02:19:43] Second, Europe should introduce preferential immigration
[02:19:48] and citizenship for Jewish families.
[02:19:51] In the US, approximately 7.7 million Jews live.
[02:19:57] That is 2.2% of the population.
[02:20:00] In the EU and the UK combined, it is roughly 1 million.
[02:20:04] That is 0.2% and 10 times less.
[02:20:08] Please don't send it to the Germanness
[02:20:10] when you've got the same exact type of guys
[02:20:11] running around all over your country.
[02:20:13] Yeah, the reason why I sent it to their Germanness,
[02:20:16] by the way, that's gotta be a German anti-Zionist,
[02:20:18] one of the, you know, 15.
[02:20:20] So I'm gonna treat this with respect
[02:20:23] because you guys are fighting a very different battle
[02:20:25] over there.
[02:20:27] But in the United States of America, this kind of attitude certainly exists as well.
[02:20:32] Mike Huckabee is like one of the torchbearers of this movement, right?
[02:20:36] But the difference is we can identify where that's coming from.
[02:20:40] And it's centered around evangelical Christian Zionism.
[02:20:44] Whereas in Germany, it does actually turn into this like national humiliation,
[02:20:51] this national understanding, or rather the national shame that they feel,
[02:20:56] where they actually get to offset the guilt of the Holocaust away from any kind of like European
[02:21:04] anti-Semitism to these nasty Arabs, right? This modern behemoth, the Arabs have taught us how
[02:21:11] to be anti-Semitic is what they say sometimes. So I think it stems from Germanness for sure,
[02:21:23] like modern Germanness, the modern understanding of a German nation-state, their shared history,
[02:21:29] their shared culture. It's this strange offloading of the guilt of the Holocaust and the anti-Semitism
[02:21:37] that led to the Holocaust to the Muslims, to Islam. It's very odd. And that's the reason why I
[02:21:48] center German-ness around it rather than in the United States of America, I don't think there is
[02:21:54] that same level of guilt. There is a level of guilt for sure. There's a level of guilt amongst
[02:22:01] Americans for the famous story of the boats that were sent back to Germany that had Jewish refugees.
[02:22:09] Right? Like that certainly exists in American culture, but to the degree that you see philosemitism
[02:22:16] from Germans does not exist in America at all, with the exception of white evangelical
[02:22:24] Protestant Christians. I think it's mostly just rooted in antisemitism. Yes, of course,
[02:22:29] phyllo-semitism is the other side of antisemitism. Zionism is by far the most convenient
[02:22:35] for if antisemitism nowadays, right, because Europe could just hold on to their antisemitism
[02:22:39] by indulging in Zionism. I think that's part of it, yes.
[02:22:46] Then in America, it is in Europe's own best interest to change that, and it is more than
[02:23:15] a gesture. If the idea of a multicultural society is to be taken seriously, then there
[02:23:23] is a...
[02:23:24] Bro, your German takes are not that good, man. Germans are the best at educating their
[02:23:27] country and culture about history. France and the UK still glorifies many of its atrocities.
[02:23:33] I don't think Germany features a tremendous amount of education on its, you know, the
[02:23:39] actions it took in its African campaigns. That's number one. And number two, what I'm
[02:23:44] talking about is like what I'm talking about is quite literally a a fixture of of German culture
[02:23:52] with the exception of like my German chatter is in here uh the the tying of Zionism and Judaism
[02:23:59] and the and the highlighting of of Israel. I mean Germany literally paid reparations right
[02:24:04] to the state of Israel. I mean it was heavily featured in Tana Hisiko's writing where he tried
[02:24:09] tried to make a case in the affirmative for reparations. Not true at all. I'm not German,
[02:24:14] but spent there. Okay, dude. Well, then maybe dial it back.
[02:24:33] Germany is one of the most aggressive in its approach to combating anti-Zionism. Like out
[02:24:37] of all the European countries, it's literally the most aggressive. It's far more aggressive
[02:24:42] than the United States of America because the United States of America, there's still
[02:24:45] the First Amendment. So that plays a formative role in restricting what the government can
[02:24:51] and can't do. They're obviously trying to get that away, but they're trying to destroy
[02:24:56] that. But there is an ideal, there is an understanding of Judaism or a fetishization
[02:25:05] of Judaism and a Philo-Semitism that exists in Germany, that I have compared to the way
[02:25:13] that Americans identify with, like, Native culture.
[02:25:19] There is a similar fetishization of Indigenous culture in the United States of America, in
[02:25:24] the aftermath of the genocide of the Indigenous populations that you see in Germany.
[02:25:29] The only difference is, historically, the Holocaust is far closer to modern German existence
[02:25:34] as opposed to the indigenous genocides were 250 plus years ago and continued onward for
[02:25:44] throughout the early frontierism. Having said that, the fetishization and the
[02:25:54] otherizing or the fetishization in general is identical almost.
[02:25:58] I literally write about this shit, man. It's terrifying. Yeah.
[02:26:15] It goes beyond the material necessity to have a colonial outpost in this resource-rich region
[02:26:21] for Germans. For Americans, like their foreign policy decisions revolve around that. They don't
[02:26:26] give a fuck, right? There is no like, oh, we really fucked up with our mistreatment of the Jews
[02:26:32] or anything like that. It's pretty, it's pretty open as shut, which you see is what you get.
[02:26:39] They see it as a reliable colonial outpost, and its reliability is actually being called
[02:26:46] in the question now. So there's obviously disagreements there in the State Department.
[02:26:51] There's always been some people in the State Department that have seen Israel as a massive
[02:26:55] national security threat. So the CIA and other functions of the state are of two different minds,
[02:27:02] and they are oftentimes butting heads with one another. Whereas in Germany,
[02:27:06] there is this higher prioritization of Israel due to the collective guilt of the Holocaust,
[02:27:12] and how it's formed into this idolization of the state of Israel, for sure.
[02:27:18] That's, it's just, it's different. I don't know how else to describe it other than to say it's
[02:27:27] different. They feel it, yeah, the Germans feel like that there is a moral obligation to always
[02:27:37] defend Israel that goes even beyond capital. Of course, capital still plays a role in this.
[02:27:42] Capital always plays a role in this. Capitalism is the international organization of the economy.
[02:27:50] It's the only game in town. So, you know, when you think about Axel Springer, for example,
[02:27:55] of course, they have investments in the West Bank. Of course, they have investments in Israel. Many
[02:27:59] of the pro-Israel Christians, of course, have a financial entanglement with the apartheid project.
[02:28:08] That's real. But what I'm talking about is like this attitude that you see from German society.
[02:28:17] This attitude that you see from German society by and large that goes beyond the normal expectations.
[02:28:28] Having said that, I mean, German society is polled with regular frequency and even German society, by and large, has recognized the atrocities that Israel is committing.
[02:28:41] It's just that you will never hear that from a person with a fraction of power.
[02:28:47] Even in the United States of America, there are people who are getting elected, for example, on anti-Zionist tickets.
[02:28:53] Whereas I feel like D. Linka is the closest that you can get to like a party with viability and not one of these like fucking 18 person Marxist-Leninist formations that exists in Germany.
[02:29:03] I'm talking like a viable party, a serious party that operates within German politics.
[02:29:13] Delinka is the furthest left, right? And Delinka still will, Delinka only recently
[02:29:20] was able to come to terms with an official statement on Israel's genocide, and even then
[02:29:25] they immediately paired that up with like the growth of anti-Semitism happening in Germany
[02:29:30] and other places as well. So I don't think that there is like appropriate representation within,
[02:29:38] Brother, you cannot be calling Dylinka a serious left party.
[02:29:41] I'm not.
[02:29:42] I'm not.
[02:29:43] You're misunderstanding my point.
[02:29:44] It's a social democratic party at most.
[02:29:46] I'm saying that it's the furthest left party with any real viability.
[02:29:52] Okay?
[02:29:53] I'm not saying that.
[02:29:54] Guys, this conversation started with how cooked German politics is.
[02:29:59] Okay?
[02:30:00] Why does everybody always forget that I'm using the term viability very deliberately
[02:30:04] here?
[02:30:05] Okay?
[02:30:06] Please, this is a nuanced perspective. What I'm trying to say is there isn't a real recognition.
[02:30:17] There isn't a real recognition. There isn't any real proportional representation of societal,
[02:30:24] German societal attitudes towards Israel in German politics. Okay? That's all I'm saying.
[02:30:31] You look at Germany, modern Germany, and their attitude towards the nation state of Israel,
[02:30:38] and it's unbelievably negative.
[02:30:40] And yet there is no real party out there, there's no real party out there that actually
[02:30:46] abides by this attitude.
[02:30:52] You know what I mean?
[02:30:56] So like, even, even D. Linka, which is supposed to be like the leftmost party with any serious
[02:31:04] viability, is nowhere near as close to the, to the public sentiment on Israel and Germany.
[02:31:12] It's just not.
[02:31:15] There isn't enough representation of people full stop.
[02:31:17] Yes.
[02:31:18] Israel is a, is, is, is a great example of this lack of representation, okay?
[02:31:25] Maybe explain it when you say viable, you mean it in the context of whether or not like
[02:31:40] a pregnancy is viable or not?
[02:31:42] No, viability is in like, it's a serious party with like a decent amount of representation
[02:31:48] that can win seats, okay?
[02:31:51] That's what viability means.
[02:31:53] in the American electoral system is also implied, like it's not like an American Communist Party,
[02:32:03] for example, but instead like a candidate that is viable as and has a tremendous amount of support
[02:32:09] within striking distance could potentially win. That's what viability means.
[02:32:23] Anyway, how the fuck are we talking about Germany?
[02:32:28] Oh my god.
[02:32:29] Alright, I'm done.
[02:32:30] I'm done talking about Germany.
[02:32:32] Let's get back to Israel telling the United States government that Iran wants to kill
[02:32:36] Trump.
[02:32:37] President Trump himself said this week he wasn't looking for the war to go on calling
[02:32:47] the strikes retribution for Iranian aggression.
[02:32:51] I think anything that happens is going to be over very quickly.
[02:32:54] The strikes may be punitive, but they're also strategic.
[02:32:58] US official-style CBS News, they've hit more than 170 Iranian military targets along the
[02:33:04] Strait in the hopes of loosening Iran's hold on the waterway.
[02:33:08] Iran fired back, targeting key US allies in the Gulf, including Kuwait, Qatar, and Bahrain.
[02:33:16] This is not anywhere near an end of the war.
[02:33:18] is just entering kind of a new phase. In Iran, this all comes as crowds gathered for the funeral
[02:33:26] of the late Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei. The German left is currently focused on you
[02:33:32] because they think the DSA will end up like the Lenka. What? No. There's 0% chance the
[02:33:42] Democratic Socialists of America would ever end up like the Lenka because the Democratic
[02:33:46] Socialists of America are outcasts from the normal political process.
[02:33:57] And the more it becomes a fixture in normal American politics, the more we run DSA candidates,
[02:34:05] the more they win elections in an uncompromising manner, and the more they put up a fight,
[02:34:11] The more they develop some sort of caucus or political power within the Democratic Party,
[02:34:17] the more radical they would become, not less.
[02:34:20] Why would they become less radical?
[02:34:23] I mean, we shall see.
[02:34:26] We shall see.
[02:34:27] I have a lot of confidence in this new slate of candidates that we work to get elected,
[02:34:34] some of which are, many of which are Democratic socialists and some of which are adjacent,
[02:34:39] right?
[02:34:40] DSA has always recognized the genocide, DSA has always had a far more radical approach
[02:35:00] than D-Linka ever could come to terms with.
[02:35:04] I'm mortars pictured holding a banner that read Trump. We will kill you the conflict has prompted
[02:35:11] Extra security measures for president Trump in an unexpected switch
[02:35:15] He left the NATO summit in Turkey this week in the old Air Force one as its replacement
[02:35:21] Gifted by the government of Qatar was sent out of the region without him now, so yeah, I wonder why
[02:35:29] perhaps
[02:35:30] the runway to develop
[02:35:32] With all of the like anti-missile systems and the evasive capabilities of a regular Air Force One, the
[02:35:40] refueling capabilities of regular Air Force One, the
[02:35:44] like all of the technical capabilities of a normal Air Force One plane is
[02:35:50] very different than a normal civilian plane that you got from Qatar.
[02:35:57] Okay.
[02:36:02] So, there is no way that you could redesign a normal bowing plane that you got from Cutter
[02:36:18] in four months. At most, the best you can do is, I guess, check it for bugs and then put
[02:36:35] a fresh coat of paint, which by the way, controversial opinion, but I really do like the paint job.
[02:36:40] I will say that I think this paint job is actually pretty solid. So that's one point
[02:36:46] to give to Donald Trump. I know he chose this. Um, it's clean. It looks fucking dope. Uh,
[02:36:53] but, but I will say this, this, there, there's a reason why he, he chose not to fly back
[02:37:03] with this one. Okay. Now sources tell the reason why he chose not to fly back with this
[02:37:09] one is because he's now scared that, uh, you know, Iran is going to lob ballistic missiles
[02:37:15] added or something. So now he's flying back with the OG Air Force One.
[02:37:19] DBS News, it was on the recommendation of the Secret Service. The old plane is equipped
[02:37:24] with sophisticated...
[02:37:25] Like, look at this paint job, dude.
[02:37:27] Military defenses and secure communication systems that the new Air Force One lacks.
[02:37:35] So the Trump administration says the president remains committed to finding a resolution
[02:37:39] with Iran but called the recent attacks on the vessels in the Strait of Hormuz, terrorism.
[02:37:43] Nevertheless, the U.S. official tells CBS News talks with Iran will continue.
[02:37:48] All right, Charlie, let me ask you about what we're learning about that report regarding
[02:37:53] a new Iranian plot to kill President Trump.
[02:37:55] And why is it coming to light now?
[02:37:58] The big question, the timing is unclear because there have been active plots in Iran to assassinate
[02:38:04] President Trump since at least back in 2020.
[02:38:07] That's when the president ordered the strike to kill Iranian al-Quds force commander, Qasem
[02:38:12] Soleimani.
[02:38:13] saw those banners during the funerals for the Supreme Leader calling for the death of Trump.
[02:38:18] Why Israel is raising this plot now is unclear. You may remember Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin
[02:38:24] Etniahu helped convince President Trump to launch the war after that famous visit to the White House
[02:38:29] in February. The two spoke again yesterday. The reminder of the assassination plot may be an attempt
[02:38:35] to convince Trump to keep up attacks. Glad. All right. Charlie, thank you very much.
[02:38:40] Now, as you can see, I'm joined by Professor Michael Clarke, because are we returning to
[02:38:45] all-out war between Iran and the United States? Intensifying strikes across the Middle East overnight?
[02:38:52] Are there US attacks on dozens of sites across?
[02:38:57] What about all the other public assassination attempts? Well, there's a difference between
[02:39:02] like, first of all, do I think that there is a credible assassination threat? I suspect that
[02:39:08] there's always a credible assassination threat. The whole point is he gives them an opportunity.
[02:39:14] He gives them an opportunity to strike if he's in the old plane. You know, you're the president
[02:39:19] of America. You're fucking around with numerous nations. Like it's gonna, it makes sense that
[02:39:24] there is like credible threats to your life and your safety. It's a little bit different than,
[02:39:33] you know, the possible attempts on your life from like a radical centrist at the White House
[02:39:37] correspondence dinner, right? But yeah, when you're flying around, when you're, when you're
[02:39:49] flying around on a fucking plane that doesn't have the same evasive maneuvering capabilities
[02:39:54] as the previous Air Force One does, when you're flying around on a plane that doesn't have like
[02:39:58] anti-missile systems in it, when you're flying around on a plane that doesn't have the same
[02:40:02] like nuclear bunker facilities that the Air Force One normally has, and the capacity to
[02:40:08] get refueled even. Retooling a civilian Boeing plane takes like almost a decade, okay? You
[02:40:16] got to do it right. It's the president. It's the most important person in the country,
[02:40:20] and most person may be on the planet from the perspective of the people, the engineers working
[02:40:25] on it. So I know he likes the new plane. Um, he likes it a lot.
[02:40:32] He thinks it's great. He thinks it looks cool and the interior is much nicer,
[02:40:37] but, you know,
[02:40:41] that's the reason why he just chose not to fly around in that clearly.
[02:40:44] Anyway, Michael Clark is back to talk about the Intensified Strikes to the U.S. and Iran.
[02:40:57] Look, I think it's pretty obvious what happened here.
[02:41:01] I already talked about this extensively.
[02:41:07] I gave you my perspective on this.
[02:41:10] I'll just give you a quick update on it.
[02:41:13] still the same. It's now becoming increasingly clear and more clear that the MOU was bullshit
[02:41:21] and it was just a lousom respite for the strategic reserves that were near critical levels of
[02:41:27] it. I believe it was like one to four weeks away from reaching critical levels where if
[02:41:35] you actually go below a certain red line in the strategic reserves, you have the capacity
[02:41:41] for those salt caverns where a lot of the oil remains to collapse. Okay? That still remains.
[02:41:50] That issue still remains and it's going to come back again. Iran knows this. Okay? Iran
[02:41:56] obviously understands this reality. And that was what they were hedging their bets on.
[02:42:04] So Donald Trump came in, wanted to give the markets a moment to breathe, right?
[02:42:11] Release the sanctions on Iranian oil.
[02:42:13] They had already released the sanctions on Russian oil prior to this as well.
[02:42:18] And the oil reserves were not going to recover, but at least it would stabilize the market
[02:42:23] a little bit.
[02:42:24] It would make things a little bit easier, right?
[02:42:27] It would give America some level of leverage.
[02:42:29] the Iranian side, they recognize this, they get a moment of respite or they can go back to
[02:42:35] rebuilding their infrastructure, they can go back to rebuilding their munitions facilities
[02:42:40] that have taken a significant amount of damage, they can get Chinese shipping and Chinese
[02:42:50] components. So you can go back to like rebuilding their drones to re-up and rearm basically
[02:42:57] in that short period of time. And that's precisely what took place. So I think that the Iranian side
[02:43:07] is aware that the MOU was dead in the water. Maybe some of the reformists thought that there was
[02:43:16] an opportunity for a deal. But I think the IRGC was already like the hardliners were already aware
[02:43:22] that this wasn't going to stick, right? Hold on.
[02:43:36] For those of you who are wondering what I'm talking about with the salt caverns, okay?
[02:44:04] salt cavern collapses, threaten energy stockpiles like the US strategic petroleum reserve. Cavern
[02:44:09] failures cause pressure drops, sink holes and potential aquifer contamination. Maintaining
[02:44:14] bright levels and internal pressure is critical to preserve the structural integrity of these vital
[02:44:18] petroleum and gas reserves. The US stores its massive energy stockpile capable of holding
[02:44:25] up to 714 million barrels in hollowed out salt caverns along the Gulf Coast. However,
[02:44:32] the technique of solution mining used to create these caverns leaves them susceptible to structural
[02:44:36] vulnerabilities over time. So if you go beyond a certain red line of oil inside of these salt
[02:44:43] caverns, you have too little pressure and you could potentially have them collapse,
[02:44:50] which would destroy the rest of the oil, the oil stockpile, the strategic reserves that we have.
[02:44:57] have. Okay? The Department of Energy manages and monitors four major sites across Texas
[02:45:05] and Louisiana to ensure that these reserves remain structurally sound and mission ready.
[02:45:20] the most AmeriFat problem? I guess. For the record, they're capable of holding 715 million,
[02:45:35] but once you go below 150 million barrels of oil, okay? Once you go below 150 million
[02:45:44] barrels of oil, the pressure drops to such a degree that those cell cavers could technically
[02:45:49] collapse. Okay? We need 150 million barrels of oil in the salt reserves that we never
[02:45:55] take out of those salt reserves because if we do take them out, if we go beneath that
[02:46:00] level, then there is a, there is a, a likely scenario where these salt caverns collapse.
[02:46:07] Okay? Do you understand? Here's what it looks like.
[02:46:15] I guess the Brian Mount strategic petroleum reserve,
[02:46:21] reserve caverns in Texas. Okay.
[02:46:30] So the capacity is 580 million barrels and not 720. Yes.
[02:46:34] Well, it could also not collapse. So, you know,
[02:46:38] I guess that's what it is, but yeah, here it is. Did anyone see that?
[02:46:42] Analytica Camilla says, does anyone see that piece by the economists where they
[02:46:44] apologize for being wrong about oil prices. It's one of those rare. Well, honestly, not
[02:46:48] that rare cases were not only were they not wrong.
[02:46:51] Investors were slash are just detached from reality. The Trump admins suckered the stock
[02:46:55] mark of the laziest cycle of pump fakes I've ever seen. Every few days, they'd have an
[02:47:00] official go and tell Barak Ravide that we're making great headway on the whole ceasefire
[02:47:03] thing. And investors believe every single time, even though Barack himself pointed out
[02:47:07] that he was just literally reporting on what they were saying, but it's quite obvious that
[02:47:11] they're trying to bullshit everybody. Meanwhile, the global oil market is next
[02:47:14] snap from the war whiplash. The US strategic petroleum reserves are basically empty.
[02:47:18] They can't dip below 150 million barrels without having the caves where the oil
[02:47:23] historic collapse and the White House started creating literal communist style
[02:47:26] gas stations. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if the White House creates
[02:47:30] communist style gas stations because the strategic reserves, if they diminish to
[02:47:35] that degree, it's over. Okay? You hit a hard limit. And that's where things get really
[02:47:42] fun. Once you hit a hard limit, and if you start seeing real structural integrity failures,
[02:47:49] okay, all of a sudden, you don't have any fucking oil. And when you run out of oil,
[02:47:55] when you run out of the strategic reserves in its entirety, or you start seeing structural
[02:47:59] collapse in these strategic reserves, the problem compounds far beyond not being able to receive,
[02:48:08] you know, not be, the problem compounds far beyond simply going to a gas station and seeing the prices.
[02:48:15] Okay. The prices will obviously skyrocket where gas is readily available. We're talking about
[02:48:20] the electrical grid. We're talking about the entire American, the American electrical grid
[02:48:26] potentially turning into the Cuban one, okay? So, here's the issue, and I covered this yesterday
[02:48:42] as well. Here's Eric Nuttall. The U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve is now 19 million barrels away
[02:48:49] from the estimated minimum operating levels. They're very soon will no longer be a safety
[02:48:56] buffer to protect the world from the further losses out of the straight, okay?
[02:49:06] You now, when you reach 300 million, you're now reaching a red line where there's only
[02:49:17] 150 million to go until complete structural integrity failure. Okay? And every single day,
[02:49:25] it's getting worse. Every single day, the problem compounds on one another. Okay?
[02:49:36] This is the reason why Donald Trump tried to do a fake out with this MOU so that Iran could sell
[02:49:43] its oil on the market and this would give confidence to the investors. This would give
[02:49:51] some confidence to the investors. It would offer a moment of respite so that the American
[02:49:55] oil reserves could stop burning as many barrels as they are. However, it simply pushes the problem
[02:50:08] later down the line. And the more you push this problem down the line, the more you push it in
[02:50:14] the direction of the midterm. So I don't even understand what Trump is trying to do, because
[02:50:18] the problem doesn't go away. If they were to now go back to war, waging war as we have, right?
[02:50:28] There is no guarantee that a military intervention is actually going to
[02:50:32] to force the Iranian hand to bend to America's needs, to Israel's needs, okay?
[02:50:42] And that's just our strategic reserves.
[02:50:45] I don't know what it looks like in Japan, for example, right?
[02:50:50] Because the massive stockpiles that Japan has, they've also tapped into in order to
[02:50:57] make sure that there aren't critical shortages.
[02:51:00] Because, again, I repeat this over and over again, the reason why oil is a global commodity
[02:51:06] is because it is perhaps the most important commodity for survival, for normal everyday
[02:51:12] existence.
[02:51:13] Everything runs on oil.
[02:51:15] Everything runs on oil and gas.
[02:51:17] And it has inelastic demand, right?
[02:51:20] You can artificially reduce demand, as some of these countries have, like the Philippines
[02:51:24] of artificially reduced demand, you can try to go back to different fossil fuels like coal,
[02:51:32] which Thailand did, right? But ultimately, you still need oil, okay? That's not true,
[02:51:39] Hasan Abiyu fucking idiot says COO of Antifa. America runs on Duncan, okay, fair. Well, other
[02:51:48] countries don't run on Duncan, they run on oil, right? So that's the reason why the price
[02:51:58] is priced out globally, because countries will do everything they can to get it, because
[02:52:07] in the absence of it, their grid fails, okay? Every other country turns into Cuba. And there's
[02:52:17] There's also a lot of spot traders. There's also a lot of shadow fleets all around the
[02:52:23] world that are operating. Some of the oil tankers that are doing regular trade also
[02:52:29] famously have additional millions of barrels of oil that they're selling to make a quick
[02:52:35] buck on the side. This has also allowed the market to not be as volatile because a lot
[02:52:42] people understand that this is how it goes, right? Having said that, having said that,
[02:52:48] there is a hard line. There's a hard limit that you reach and once you reach that hard limit,
[02:52:52] everything collapses. It's no longer just, it's no longer just a higher price of the gas pump,
[02:52:58] which will definitely happen, but it won't be, you know, 50 cents or a dollar more. It will be
[02:53:04] $10 more. You'll start seeing, you'll start seeing lines of cars at every gas station
[02:53:10] around the country. You'll start seeing rolling blackouts, for example. An artificial reduction
[02:53:18] in demand in a country like the United States of America will collapse the largest consumption
[02:53:25] engine on the planet. This will have tremendous impact on the global economy. Okay? 70s oil
[02:53:32] crisis tenfold. So it's no longer just about Americans feeling shitty about paying extra
[02:53:55] money. We're now talking about complete collapse. So the reason why I'm bringing up all of this
[02:53:59] is because that's leverage that iran has
[02:54:02] right if we know about this than obviously
[02:54:05] the iranian government knows about this as well that's part of the reason why
[02:54:08] they can play hardball
[02:54:10] iran was able to through blood
[02:54:12] and through sacrifice
[02:54:14] and through their their uh... drone production facilities
[02:54:19] they were able to uh... successfully
[02:54:22] gain tremendous leverage
[02:54:24] uh... as they as they now control the shade of hormones
[02:54:27] The MOU in the language that they interpreted and the language that they use on the MOU
[02:54:32] implied that they would open the Strait of Hormuz as long as all of the vessels that
[02:54:37] were transiting would transit through the Iranian side.
[02:54:41] But of course, there's the Omani coastline as well.
[02:54:44] Iran has allowed the Omani coastline to also operate.
[02:54:49] But America made a big show of force, they tried to get as many ships as possible through
[02:54:55] the Omani coastline. And Iran was fine with it for a little bit, because they got a moment,
[02:55:02] they got respite from the American blockade, the secondary blockade that America had implemented,
[02:55:08] right? And so now it's, I don't want to say a Mexican standout. It's an Iranian standoff,
[02:55:16] basically. Okay. Iran's put a gun to the head of the global energy markets, and America
[02:55:22] has put a gun to the head of the same global energy markets. And it's now, it's now about
[02:55:28] who gets the buckle first, the new standoff. America, for some weird fucking reason, has
[02:55:41] decided that it's more beneficial to try to force Iran by bombing civilian infrastructure
[02:55:48] again and again and again. This didn't work in the last 130 days in Operation Epic Fury
[02:55:55] Part 1. So there's no reason for this to work in Operation Epic Fury Part 2.
[02:56:01] Okay, Iran knows this. So inevitably, America's going to have to go back to the ceasefire table.
[02:56:08] America's going to have to go back unless they just collapse everything. And I don't think they're
[02:56:13] going to do that. Iran has all the cards. America could only escalate further and try
[02:56:21] to diminish Iranian strike capabilities. But as long as Iran can like lob these drones
[02:56:28] at civilian ships that are transiting millions of barrels of oil through the Omani coastline,
[02:56:34] which is fairly easy to do, they can do this with their go fast boats. They can do this
[02:56:39] with their drones. So they control the Shroud of Hormuz. You just can't outperform the geographic
[02:56:48] limitations here. It's 21 miles wide. The only parts that ships can transit through are either
[02:56:54] the Omani coastline, hugging the Omani coastline or hugging the Iranian coastline. They're not going
[02:56:59] to be able to get away with attritting the Iranian strike capabilities in the water,
[02:57:07] especially because Iranians already have additional cars that they haven't even deployed,
[02:57:12] like shutting down the Bob Elmandeb Strait by utilizing the Houthis.
[02:57:17] So things could get far worse going forward.
[02:57:23] Meanwhile, the Americans have ironically diminished their missiles, their standoff
[02:57:30] munitions, because they couldn't establish air superiority over Iranian airspace.
[02:57:36] So they couldn't use their unguided and guided missiles that they could deploy over Iran
[02:57:43] With and they have plenty of stocks
[02:57:46] Plenty of stockpile on their unguided and guided munitions that they could just like drop they could drop gravity bombs
[02:57:51] by flying
[02:57:53] There are planes over the Iranian airspace, but every single time they've flown planes over the Iranian airspace
[02:57:59] The Iranian air defenses and they're loitering munitions
[02:58:03] kick in, and it's far too costly for the American war effort to risk more pilots, to risk more
[02:58:11] assets. Iranians keep blowing up their MQ-9 Reaper drones, which are $30 million a pop,
[02:58:18] and Iranians have even been able to shoot down over the Strait of Hormuz helicopters.
[02:58:25] They've been able to shoot down an F-35.
[02:58:29] And we're running through our stockpile of standoff munitions that we've been deploying
[02:58:35] from these ships that are far away from the Iranian drones.
[02:58:42] And we've diminished our stockpile of interceptors.
[02:58:46] We've reduced our stockpile of peer and near-peer adversary standoff munitions that we always
[02:58:52] have to have.
[02:58:53] in a manner not dissimilar to the strategic oil reserves
[02:58:56] that I was talking about,
[02:58:57] there's also a strategic reserve of stockpiled munitions
[02:59:01] that we have that we always need to keep in the tank
[02:59:05] for God forbid war against Russia
[02:59:08] or direct conflict against China.
[02:59:11] We've already diminished that.
[02:59:12] We've already destroyed those stockpiles.
[02:59:14] Those stockpiles are not coming back.
[02:59:16] It takes a very long time to rebuild Tomahawk missiles.
[02:59:21] Okay. It takes a long ass time. It requires a lot of effort. We're just not going to be able to get that back as fast as Iran can just build drones.
[02:59:33] As fast as Iran can build its ballistic munitions.
[02:59:39] So, the reason why I'm bringing this up, what is this? You're just wrong here. There won't be...
[02:59:49] Japan's reserves have fallen from 400 barrels to 200 million. There's still months of supply. You're just wrong here. There won't be rolling blackouts in the US.
[02:59:56] There won't be gas lines. Gas prices will go up and there won't be blackouts. I don't know where people get this idea from.
[03:00:00] It's going to be Europe, Asia, South America that will suffer from this US will be fine. I think that's why Trump doesn't actually care about the impact.
[03:00:08] You don't think we're, you don't, you think we still got more oil in the strategic reserves?
[03:00:13] Like what happens when the shichiju reserves go beyond the 300 million barrels of oil go beyond the red line and
[03:00:22] And I guess like this goes on for another month
[03:00:27] U.S. Electricity depends on natural gas not fair true, but you said there's no you said that there's not gonna be
[03:00:36] You know lines of the gas station
[03:00:43] We still produce 13 million barrels of oil per day. This is in the 1973 oil crisis.
[03:00:58] We are a major exporter of oil and oil products. We simply stop exporting.
[03:01:03] Fair.
[03:01:07] So, you're saying your calculation is that America will stop exporting before it allows
[03:01:13] any sort of significant crisis take place here.
[03:01:17] Okay.
[03:01:18] There's still, at the end of this, what you're describing is longer bandwidth, okay?
[03:01:26] Where you're describing is longer bandwidth.
[03:01:28] So it's not a month, but let's say we just stop exporting oil to Europe and in Asia,
[03:01:36] right? We're going to fuck our allies. Fine. Sure. That's a, that's a consideration, right?
[03:01:45] But in, but in spite of that, there's, we're still burning more than we are. We're, we'll still
[03:01:52] inevitably burn more than we're generating, uh, than we're refining. So ultimately,
[03:02:00] Ultimately, we're talking about fucking massive, massive consequences in Europe and Asia.
[03:02:07] All of our allies are screaming bloody murder.
[03:02:11] Their grids are collapsing.
[03:02:13] Okay?
[03:02:14] Meanwhile, we are still burning more.
[03:02:18] Meanwhile, we're still burning more.
[03:02:21] So that means we have, okay, past the midterms, let's say.
[03:02:27] The three to one crack spread shows what's going on with gas and diesel prices.
[03:02:39] So gas prices skyrocket.
[03:02:41] Let's say we don't get to long lines of the gas station oil crisis style, not 1973 any
[03:02:47] longer.
[03:02:48] Okay.
[03:02:49] Fine. Not in the short term, but certainly in the long term, because we're still using
[03:02:59] more oil than we're refining. So what do we do? Let's say we just burn the global economy,
[03:03:05] which is not going to happen anyway, because we're the United States of America. Our position
[03:03:10] as the hegemon means that we have to maintain global stability. This is part of the reason
[03:03:17] why Iran has tremendous leverage. Like you can't just hand wave away rolling black house
[03:03:26] in Europe or major oil and gas crises in Europe and Asia as though we're far removed from the
[03:03:33] impact. Donald Trump's domestic considerations aside, there is a higher priority here which
[03:03:40] is to maintain global stability. The entire global capitalist system is interconnected.
[03:03:46] We don't just shut down Japan or shut down the Philippines without receiving any sort of blowback
[03:03:53] or without receiving any sort of penalties for it. There are a shit ton of American companies
[03:03:59] that still rely on the Asian market. Okay? Like, we're not... There is no world in the
[03:04:06] post-World War II design in the global capitalist design where we do not get impacted and we don't
[03:04:13] see domestic issues when the Asian markets are experiencing rolling blackouts or can no longer
[03:04:24] produce certain goods, certain components that we need for American manufacturing.
[03:04:29] The United States is not independent of the global supply chain. It's perfectly dependent on the
[03:04:34] global supply chain. Do you think Trump understands any of this? Yes, I think he does.
[03:04:39] If he didn't understand any of this, he would not have done the MOU. So the MOU itself is a
[03:04:44] recognition of the fragile nature of the global supply chain. Okay.
[03:04:54] It's still three, six months before things get really dire, but yes, this is still kicking the
[03:04:58] can down the street. I think this will pressure Ukraine to surrender to Russia for oil supply.
[03:05:04] Yeah, this is not just about long lines at the gas station, by the way, this is also tremendous inflation because a lot of the components and the parts that we need for manufacturing even products in the United States of America, whether it be car parts, whether it be, I don't know, plastic components that are necessary for little things that we use at the widget factory are still coming from the Asian markets.
[03:05:30] And if they don't have oil, they can't produce that and if they can't produce that then we don't have these parts
[03:05:37] So now all of a sudden you have a massive spike in the cost of goods in regular commodities
[03:05:43] Here in the United States of America
[03:05:47] This is before we also talk about the diesel shortages, which you also mentioned here
[03:05:52] When you don't have, you're an animal abuser, you don't deserve
[03:05:56] Okay. When we talk about the diesel shortages, then you have problems with trucking. When you have
[03:06:02] problems with, when you have problems with trucking, you now have a logistics issue in the United
[03:06:09] States of America as well as everywhere else. Okay. No diesel, no food or rather shortages of food
[03:06:21] because the transport is now, the capacity to transport certain commodities is now diminished
[03:06:30] on U.S. soil as well. And when that happens, the price of food goes up.
[03:06:37] Anyway, let's take a look at what this UK guy is saying.
[03:06:51] Iran was met with missiles targeting American bases in allied countries, including Kuwait,
[03:06:56] Jordan and Qatar.
[03:06:59] So is this a return to all that war then, Michael?
[03:07:02] I don't think so, Leah.
[03:07:03] I mean, both sides have gone quiet for the last 18 hours now,
[03:07:07] so there have been no other reciprocal strikes.
[03:07:10] So, I mean, it began with Iranian attacks
[03:07:12] on three ships in the straight-off onwards,
[03:07:14] and then the Americans responded.
[03:07:16] The Iranians responded again with attacks on American bases,
[03:07:19] and the Americans have then hit a couple of two extensive raids
[03:07:25] on the coastline of Iran and one or two England places as well.
[03:07:31] So both sides are trying to have the last word, militarily.
[03:07:34] But both of them now have gone quiet for the time being.
[03:07:37] You might flare up again.
[03:07:38] But neither side, I think, want to go back
[03:07:40] to this all-out war, because the Americans have got plenty
[03:07:43] of military hardware in the area.
[03:07:44] They've still got two carrier battle groups there.
[03:07:46] The Lincoln is still there, the Abram Lincoln carrier,
[03:07:48] the George W. Bush is still there.
[03:07:51] And those carriers, with their carrier battle groups,
[03:07:55] are very powerful.
[03:07:56] They've got a Marine Expeditionary Unit.
[03:07:57] They've got an assault ship.
[03:07:59] The box is still there.
[03:08:00] They've got plenty of stuff to carry on the air war, but to what purpose?
[03:08:05] And the Iranians, again, they've got about 70% of their missile forces available to them
[03:08:10] from what they started with.
[03:08:12] They could carry on as we're attacking the countries in the Gulf, but to what purpose?
[03:08:18] Other than to raise the sense of loss to everyone.
[03:08:21] So both sides are more interested in carrying on negotiations, particularly the Iranians,
[03:08:26] because they know they can string out these negotiations.
[03:08:29] They'll be along the 60 days of the ceasefire extension.
[03:08:32] And the Iranian calculation is that they can outlast America economically longer than America
[03:08:37] can last politically, because the Americans are getting closer and closer to the midterm
[03:08:41] elections.
[03:08:42] And the Iranians think they've won.
[03:08:44] They think the Americans will have to withdraw, and they are now, you can see in the things
[03:08:48] that they're putting out, they are articulating a new regional strategy where they will take,
[03:08:54] they'll have a lot of influence in southern Iraq.
[03:08:57] They'll have control of the Houthis in Yemen.
[03:08:59] In fact, it will give them control effectively.
[03:09:02] There you are, the Red Sea, the bottom of the Red Sea,
[03:09:03] the Babar Mandib straight there at the foot of the Red Sea.
[03:09:06] The Houthis can close that.
[03:09:08] They can close the Strait of Homoes.
[03:09:10] They will have the enmity of Saudi Arabia to deal with,
[03:09:13] but they had that anyway.
[03:09:14] I mean, the Saudis and the United Arab Emirates
[03:09:17] are very hostile now,
[03:09:19] but they know that the Amarnis have got more or less
[03:09:21] to go with them.
[03:09:22] Qatar has got a more or less lean towards them a bit more.
[03:09:25] Qatar is in a very difficult position.
[03:09:26] So they know that they still have influence over the other Gulf states.
[03:09:31] They've got a, they could have a stranglehold over humors and the Babel Mandir.
[03:09:35] Stop coming right now.
[03:09:36] Stop coming.
[03:09:38] Shatters.
[03:09:39] Stop coming.
[03:09:40] I'm going to come.
[03:09:41] Stop.
[03:09:42] Do not come.
[03:09:45] I'm going to come.
[03:09:47] Abstract.
[03:09:48] And they're still committed to the destruction of the city of Israel.
[03:09:51] So from their point of view, they, they have a new era,
[03:09:54] a third Islamic revolution to develop.
[03:09:57] And all the while then, Michael,
[03:09:59] what is the situation with the Strait of Hormuz?
[03:10:02] Is it open? Is it closed? What do we know?
[03:10:04] Ah, it's like shredding is captured,
[03:10:06] but it's open and closed simultaneously.
[03:10:07] Well, Strait of Hormuz is interesting
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[03:10:12] Let me get him an explain, all right?
[03:10:13] Let me explain this.
[03:10:14] So the Rook, the shipping...
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[03:13:29] Normally takes is the transport separation scheme, the TSS.
[03:13:33] And that is around about here normally.
[03:13:36] And nobody can use that route because the Iranians say they've mined it.
[03:13:39] And they probably have.
[03:13:41] They do seem to be some mindfulness area and what the Iranian says, okay
[03:13:45] The straight it is open if you come via Larac Island or near to Larac Island
[03:13:49] So this the the shipping that they allow through the straight is taking a pretty northerly route to come out
[03:13:54] And that means they can charge and that they're planning to to exert charges. They call them marine
[03:14:01] Service charges, which is a toll to you and me, but they call marine service charges
[03:14:05] And that's what they're going to exert in about why don't you bet the basketball game?
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[03:16:44] It's time. The Americans say, no, we have a route along the Imani coast that we've cleared. We made
[03:16:50] sure it's safe, right? I can't go to Texas anymore because he's afraid that he needs to check in with
[03:16:57] Jasmine Crockett is really funny. I will be going to Texas eventually. We're working on some right
[03:17:04] now. Right around the Muslim Dam Peninsula, around the Hajar Mountains here, down towards Fujara.
[03:17:11] And that route is where the ships were attacked in the week. So the Iranians are saying any ship
[03:17:15] using this route. I'll still cook Maya. It's not even, I'll still cook Maya. That's not even a
[03:17:21] question. Don't even start with that. I'll cook Maya anytime. Not even a question. Not safe,
[03:17:27] because it's not using our route. And that's how it began. And what's interesting is that normally
[03:17:32] is 130 odd ships going backwards and forwards day after day in normal times. In the last few days,
[03:17:39] last week, there was about 30, 40 ships going in and out. Last couple of days, it's 20 or fewer.
[03:17:45] And none of them, over the last two days, none of them have used the American route.
[03:17:50] Those that have gone in and out have all used the northern route.
[03:17:52] And that's the difference.
[03:17:53] So, at the moment, the Iranians have got control of what is coming in and out, what
[03:17:58] Lickley's coming in and out.
[03:18:00] Yeah.
[03:18:01] By the way, this is basically leverage that is more consequential than enriched nuclear
[03:18:08] grade, enriched uranium.
[03:18:10] Okay.
[03:18:11] So, of course, they're not going to give it up.
[03:18:14] Why would they, they fought for it, they bled for it, and they won it, and they showed the
[03:18:21] world how easy it is.
[03:18:23] So as long as they still have drones, as long as they can still lob, you know, underwater
[03:18:29] drones or the regular drones that they have, it's not something that they're going to give
[03:18:37] up.
[03:18:39] America understands this, by the way.
[03:18:42] What I can't comprehend is why America thinks that they can still wait this out.
[03:18:49] Why the United States of America thinks that they could just like bomb Iran into submission
[03:18:53] this time when last time it didn't work and they had to do a MOU for a brief moment of
[03:18:59] respite.
[03:19:00] From the straight of almost, nobody is using, so far, nobody is using the American route.
[03:19:06] Okay.
[03:19:07] That's what it's about.
[03:19:08] So are they going to go to war over a route?
[03:19:11] but they might go to war or back to war over who has controlled the Strait of Hormuz ultimately.
[03:19:17] And what the Iranians are saying is, like it or not, we will have control in the future.
[03:19:23] The Strait of Hormuz will never go back to the way it was.
[03:19:25] Yeah, of course, this wasn't an issue before February.
[03:19:28] Great stuff, Professor Michael Clark there.
[03:19:30] Well, New York City Mayor's office is under fire after Zohan Mamdani's International Affairs Commissioner
[03:19:37] reportedly made plans to meet with Iran's UN ambassador earlier this week.
[03:19:42] The timing could not have been worse. And the New York Post reporting this,
[03:19:47] the scheduled meeting would have unfolded after Iranian troops fired missiles at two
[03:19:52] commercial ships traversing the Strait of Hormuz. An action Monday in direct
[03:19:57] defiance of an interim peace agreement between the U.S. and Iran. Mayor Mom
[03:20:02] Johnny was asked about this at a news conference today. Watch.
[03:20:05] That meeting did not take place. It will not take place. And I did not know about it until there was a pressing query regarding it. And when it comes to the work of our commissioner and our international affairs office, it's to ensure that as we are a city of the world, that we are also there to meet with leaders from across the world.
[03:20:24] The focus is always on our city and in our relationship. The commissioner reckoned.
[03:20:29] They're worried Zoran's gonna cook up a better deal than the MOU.
[03:20:36] They're worried Zoran's gonna make peace happen.
[03:20:39] Why is he at the gym?
[03:20:41] I just realized, what the fuck's going on here?
[03:20:44] Dude, because he's everywhere all the time and he's doing like regular mayoral shit,
[03:20:50] it's always so funny.
[03:20:52] They're like, hey, why was your liaison officer talking to the Ayatollah and he's at the fucking gym and he's like, I don't, I don't know where that's coming from. Still in a suit.
[03:21:10] It's a great opportunity to
[03:21:15] recognize that this was made an
[03:21:17] error and we're working on a new
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[03:22:14] A new process? What about competence? Well, this comes as the Wall Street Journal reports
[03:22:17] Israel warned the U.S. that Iran hatched a new plan to assassinate President Trump. Iran
[03:22:23] has repeatedly vowed to retaliate against our president for ordering the killing of
[03:22:27] Iran's Revolutionary Guard General Qasem Soleimani. President Trump reiterated that
[03:22:32] this week.
[03:22:33] They've been in trouble for 47 years and we took out their first set of leaders, we took
[03:22:40] out their second set of leaders, they want to take out the US leader, me, I'm on every
[03:22:47] list.
[03:22:48] I saw things this morning, I'm on every single one of their lists and so far I guess I've
[03:22:53] been a little bit lucky but that maybe doesn't last very long.
[03:22:58] The president told the Post today, quote, I've left instructions if anything happens
[03:23:03] to just literally bomb them at levels that they'd never seen before.
[03:23:07] Rebecca, it's so frightening to even discuss this,
[03:23:10] and I can't even wrap my brain around it.
[03:23:12] But let's go back to New York City for a second.
[03:23:14] You have to be a pretty special form of, I'd say, incompetence
[03:23:17] and blindness to have that happen at your watch.
[03:23:19] Well, OK, except that, according to the City Journal,
[03:23:22] who saw some internal messages from this commissioner
[03:23:26] to Memdani's internal staff, that they
[03:23:28] were to take meetings with foreign leaders who, quote,
[03:23:31] are in political alignment slash leftist and so my question is why did they think that
[03:23:37] the Iranian regime is in political alignment or leftist with with them when yes the Iran
[03:23:44] regime is firing on commercial shipping they're also firing at Americans at American warships
[03:23:48] at American warships.
[03:23:50] Dude, this is the newest, this is the newest version of kidnap from a tank.
[03:23:57] Okay, that's so funny.
[03:24:02] This is the, the American version of kidnap from a tank.
[03:24:06] How dare Iran fire at American warships?
[03:24:12] How could Iran fire at American warships if those warships were not within striking
[03:24:17] distance. How could that have happened? It's so funny, man. That's awesome. That's great.
[03:24:31] Wow. I can't believe Iran is fucking defending itself from American warships and American planes.
[03:24:39] What is this? I like shiny things, but I'd marry you with paper rings engaged by the
[03:24:51] way. What?
[03:24:55] Congratulations to Cutie Cinderella.
[03:25:02] Who cares about Iran Cutie is married?
[03:25:11] Yes, Cutie Cinderella is married co-worker wig.
[03:25:21] Yes, a second MSG wedding is in the timeline. Okay, guys, stop. Is this because of Taylor's
[03:25:37] with no it's not you guys are so stupid please stop I mean I don't know what
[03:25:42] she'll say about it but no it's not
[03:25:52] surely you will get a co-worker invite yes I will get yes I will get a
[03:25:58] co-worker invite okay that's it's crazy I don't think I don't think AT&T I love
[03:26:06] Shatters are like be normal and call her like you think I didn't know about this until this moment like what what do you?
[03:26:14] Shatters not everything is for your parasocial experience, okay?
[03:26:21] What are you talking about?
[03:26:25] She was literally in my fucking house
[03:26:29] Ten minutes ago
[03:26:36] I don't know if you know this, but we just shot the podcast morning
[03:26:52] bro shut the fuck up and farm a clip oh god that's what you're that's what I'm supposed to do
[03:27:15] all right let's call cutie cinderella that's right I should be farming a clip what the fuck is
[03:27:19] wrong with me. You know what? You're right.
[03:27:29] All right, let's call Cutie Cinderella.
[03:27:41] Hello? You're engaged? What?
[03:27:46] Dude, I had to I had to tweet it today because when I went on your stream to move your chair. I realized I was wearing my ring
[03:27:57] You know what I also
[03:28:00] You know what I also realized
[03:28:03] We didn't even fucking talk about it on the podcast. I didn't well, it's been it's been secret
[03:28:10] I know, but I do we well now we fucking blew our load. We should have we should have farmed it
[03:28:17] We're gonna farm it. We have to farm it for the podcast. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, no
[03:28:25] Yeah, but it's fine next week all three of you wear bridesmaid stress
[03:28:30] Okay, I like that. I like that. You're also on the stream. By the way, I forgot this
[03:28:34] Okay. I just wanted to, cause everyone was like,
[03:28:37] unck, you should farm a clip. Cause I was like, what? I can't believe it.
[03:28:42] I can't very good at farming a clip when you say you're farming a clip.
[03:28:47] I know, but also at the same time, I'm 34. I'm, and also you're engaged.
[03:28:52] So we're above this stuff. We're above this stuff.
[03:28:57] Reshoot the pot. Okay. Chatter. Shut the fuck up. Well, congratulations, QT.
[03:29:02] Thank you. All right.
[03:29:03] And congratulations to my co-worker as well.
[03:29:06] And a pleasant day to you as well, to my thank you very much.
[03:29:12] All right. I have fun guys.
[03:29:14] Hi.
[03:29:18] There you go.
[03:29:20] I did it.
[03:29:21] I farmed a clip.
[03:29:25] We should have farmed it on the podcast.
[03:29:27] Oh
[03:29:33] It's ludd yeah, I don't know if you guys know this but they're they're engaged look at the screen
[03:29:41] When are you getting married you getting up there bro, what is happening? What are you my dad? What the fuck?
[03:29:49] That's crazy. I
[03:29:51] I
[03:29:53] Already received a level of scrutiny
[03:29:57] From my immediate relatives. I don't want 30,000 chatters to also fucking hit me with the same shit
[03:30:04] I'm married to the motherfucking game dog. I'm married to the motherfucking game
[03:30:13] When you having kids soon I got 28,500 and 26 of them in here right now
[03:30:21] Are you streaming a cutie wedding? Okay, dude
[03:30:40] That's what I got for you
[03:30:51] I like that this guy is just fucking locked in he's like what should Iran do now in your opinion everyone's talking about QT getting engaged except for Mahdi Toroghi
[03:31:06] Iranian chatters like dude, what is listen I got I got Galabath on the other line. Can you tell me what you think we should be doing or what?
[03:31:25] Like I said inside of your tools inside of me are tools both are gay
[03:31:36] Rage is learning the importance of blast-off memes.
[03:32:06] Anyway, he doesn't say Zaya yet. No, that's real. That's real.
[03:32:17] Is Iraq she invited to the wedding? Sayyed Abbas Iraq she?
[03:32:24] Sayyed Abbas Iraq she the foreign minister of Iran, the Islamic Republic of Iran? Yes.
[03:32:30] Yes, he's my plus one.
[03:32:36] Yeah. I was going to choose between him and said Mohammed Marandi, also known as a Zay squirrel on Twitter.
[03:32:52] Bold to assume you are invited. That's funny.
[03:32:59] really bold to assume you got an invite. It's true. I don't.
[03:33:17] Anyway, let's continue.
[03:33:22] It's based overseas in Kuwait and Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. And so this is outrageous
[03:33:27] that this is something that the Mamdani administration was seeking to do. And also, of course, we know
[03:33:32] that New York has been really struggling with anti-Semitism. And this is something that has
[03:33:36] been really important to Mamdani. He has been fueling this anti-Semitism and has been very
[03:33:41] anti-Israel. So the whole thing is very concerning that the Mamdani administration would have any
[03:33:45] interest in meeting with an Iran official. Yeah. Ari, walk us through the concerns that the White
[03:33:50] House would have, too, with your experience. Involving New York in the meeting? Yeah.
[03:33:54] Well, first of all, I totally believe Mayor Mondami.
[03:33:57] I'm certain that his commissioner for international affairs, he was going to meet with the Iranians
[03:34:02] to help them find the best bagels in New York City.
[03:34:04] I'm certain this is going to be a friendly country in New York.
[03:34:08] We love you.
[03:34:09] Meeting, that's what it was about.
[03:34:10] I mean, I just can't imagine.
[03:34:11] Zora Mondami wanted to have a meeting with people to say, death to America, death to
[03:34:16] Israel for any other reason than to be nice.
[03:34:18] I mean, what you just-
[03:34:20] What are we talking about? First of all, first of all, it's perfectly valid for the mayor
[03:34:27] of New York if they're hosting foreign dignitaries, including from Iran, to meet with them. That's
[03:34:32] number one.
[03:34:33] Number two, Donald Trump has literally spent the last month meeting with them. Trump wanted
[03:34:42] a meeting with Ayatollah directly. JD Vance has met with the envoys directly. There are
[03:34:50] photos of them in the same room. What are we talking about? I love that there's always
[03:34:57] this principle where it's like, oh, you can do anything you want if you're on the right,
[03:35:01] but if you do it on the left, it's just like, obviously, you're an enemy of the state. Okay?
[03:35:10] so strange it's such a strange thing to to advance and people do believe it by the way
[03:35:16] let me look at this this has a fucking 256 000 views in three hours is treason pure and simple
[03:35:22] don't know why they are not charged make treason punishable again that's treason
[03:35:27] mom donnie knew he ain't fooling anyone this has to stop our states are part of a federal union
[03:35:31] we need to stamp this out arrest those traders now
[03:35:34] Meanwhile, have the reason why they say Zahra Mamdani's anti-Semitic is because he's not
[03:35:43] throwing ass at the Israeli ambassador every time he fucking can.
[03:35:47] Okay?
[03:35:48] They're like, if you literally don't let the Israeli ambassador buttfuck you, you're anti-Semitic.
[03:35:54] Okay?
[03:35:55] What are we talking about?
[03:35:57] What?
[03:35:58] What is this?
[03:35:59] What is this fucking insane double standard?
[03:36:04] the
[03:36:20] what the hell
[03:36:24] what the hell I'm sorry and Israel high and Israel high and Israel high and Israel high emergency announcement ladies and gentlemen and Israel hi
[03:36:31] Okay. Just wanted to say, Am Israel Hai? Am Israel Hai? I was so wrong. Yes, it is true.
[03:36:43] If Zoran doesn't let his back get blown out by the Israeli ambassador, he is the prime
[03:36:50] anti-Semite. Okay. I was wrong. Fox News is right. Am Israel Hai? You got to let your
[03:37:00] Your bag be blown out by the Israeli ambassador.
[03:37:03] It's actually kind of fucked up.
[03:37:05] An unbelievably anti-Semitic disarran has not.
[03:37:08] Okay?
[03:37:10] Don't know what I was thinking.
[03:37:12] I don't know what I was thinking.
[03:37:13] Have you made space,
[03:37:15] have you made space for Israel in your daily routine?
[03:37:18] I certainly have.
[03:37:19] All right, let's continue.
[03:37:20] Pathetic view and sympathetic ear width.
[03:37:22] This is frightening.
[03:37:23] This is not what New York should be doing
[03:37:25] than the mayor lies and covers up.
[03:37:27] He sounds like Grant Platner denying the reality
[03:37:30] It's right in front of him, which is why his staff
[03:37:32] feels they're licensed to go out and meet with the Iranians
[03:37:36] and talk to the Iranians.
[03:37:37] I wish the meeting took place.
[03:37:39] And that way we could have demanded
[03:37:40] to know what they talked about and hold the mayor
[03:37:43] to account for it.
[03:37:44] It really is too bad that they stopped it before it happened,
[03:37:47] because that is what really motivates these people.
[03:37:49] It really seems to be this sort of like weaseling
[03:37:51] that happens here, Lisa, where the mayor gets away
[03:37:54] with things by smiling and denying.
[03:37:55] And remember, it took them three times
[03:37:58] to get a paycheck out to NYPD officers,
[03:38:00] and it's always, oh, I'm sorry, there was an error.
[03:38:02] Like, it seems really mealy-mouthed here,
[03:38:04] but at the end of the day, it's New Yorkers
[03:38:05] whose safety is being compromised,
[03:38:08] let alone our nation's security
[03:38:09] that's being compromised if this would happen.
[03:38:11] I mean, I can't be the only one
[03:38:13] asking who side is he on in all of this, right?
[03:38:17] And you would think,
[03:38:18] wouldn't you know if your international affairs
[03:38:20] commissioners try to meet with Iranian officials?
[03:38:23] Is that something that you should know as mayor?
[03:38:26] And why would that individual be trying to meet
[03:38:30] with Iranian officials?
[03:38:32] But you go down the list, you also
[03:38:34] look at some of the tweets and the various things
[03:38:37] that his wife has liked surrounding
[03:38:39] the events of October 7th, as well,
[03:38:40] starts to pan a little bit of a picture.
[03:38:42] But even going back to the Biden administration,
[03:38:44] and Rebecca's going to know about this,
[03:38:46] you've got Robert Malley, who was the envoy for Iran
[03:38:50] for the Biden administration.
[03:38:52] He had a security clearance revoked from him,
[03:38:54] also was under FBI investigation.
[03:38:56] You had another top official who is part of the Iran experts
[03:39:00] initiative, which seem to have reported about government
[03:39:03] leaked emails where Iranian officials and government
[03:39:06] officials were coordinating with individuals
[03:39:09] in the United States who were part of this initiative
[03:39:11] to try to shape public opinion here in the United States
[03:39:14] and the West more favorably for the Iranian regime.
[03:39:17] So whose side are some of these people on?
[03:39:20] It certainly doesn't seem to be America.
[03:39:23] Yeah, I'm just pointing out, and you pointed this out too, mom, Donnie says I wasn't informed
[03:39:26] about this meeting. And apparently she has been.
[03:39:29] Yeah, my controversial opinion on this is that it's anti-Semitic because the only foreign
[03:39:34] ambassador that the New York mayor should be meeting with is the Israeli foreign ambassador.
[03:39:43] I think that actually the only person, I take it back, sorry, the only person, not just
[03:39:51] Just a foreign ambassador, I'm talking just any human being in his office, any person
[03:39:57] that the New York mayor is communicating with every day should be directly out of Tel Aviv.
[03:40:04] Okay?
[03:40:07] That's what I think, and that's what I believe, and that's why I think Zoran is anti-Semitic.
[03:40:14] He should literally not even talk to like Lena Kahn, okay?
[03:40:18] Or anyone else in his cabinet.
[03:40:23] Every single person in his cabinet should be replaced by someone that works for Unit 8200.
[03:40:29] It's unbelievably anti-Semitic if they don't do that.
[03:40:33] Reprimanded.
[03:40:34] But my question is you should know what your staff is doing if someone on your staff takes
[03:40:40] a meeting with Iran and the mayor doesn't know.
[03:40:42] wife? Oh, extra anti-Semitic. Are you kidding me? Zoramum Dani should marry the nation state of
[03:40:48] Israel. Zoramum Dani, if he wants to prove that he is not an anti-Semite, he needs to divorce his
[03:40:55] wife and marry the nation state of Israel instead. That's anti-Semitic. Any day that he continues
[03:41:01] to be married to his wife as opposed to the beautiful nation state of Israel is a day that
[03:41:07] will live in infamy. It's another day of anti-Semite, 10 bodies. 10 bodies. Someone call up Jonathan
[03:41:12] Johnathan Greenblatt, someone ring up Johnathan Greenblatt. That's 10 bodies. That's 10 anti-Semitism's.
[03:41:19] Okay. Thank you for reminding me.
[03:41:22] It seems like you have a lot of other problems. I thought the same as you when I saw the internal document about
[03:41:27] closing up to leftist regimes. We've actually seen that from Mom Donnie. He tried to meet with the Colombian president,
[03:41:32] Petro, the State Department intervened. That didn't happen. That Petro was at a rally with him at one point and sifted.
[03:41:38] That was also crazy. Like the fact that he was not allowed to talk to Gustavo Petro is pretty wild
[03:41:50] Teaching clavicular about the original looks max are from the Torah. Oh my god clavicular in Israel is just a content
[03:41:58] Content nuke in and of itself
[03:42:00] So he does cozy up to the left
[03:42:02] But what's interesting is the diplomatic mission that this woman was a part of says that they want an equitable and inclusive society
[03:42:09] And when you think about Iran it is not that and I think about 22-year-old masa Amini who I bring up repeatedly on the show
[03:42:16] Who was arrested by the morality police beaten and an Iranian custody was killed and she's one woman of many tens of thousands of Iranian citizens
[03:42:24] Have lost their lives. So if you want to be equitable and inclusive, you're doing the exact opposite by taking a meeting with Iran
[03:42:30] You should know better. We are the freest country in the world the best country in the world
[03:42:34] And you're cozying up to someone who kills young Muslim women people you purportedly say you care about
[03:42:40] Be sure to like and sub
[03:42:43] Progressive this was really funny. So dem candidate Brad Lander had a conversation with Dana bash
[03:42:51] In which he talks about how he's a liberal Zionist who also happens to believe that Israel is an apartheid
[03:42:58] Israel is an occupation, and Israel's apartheid must end, Israel's occupation must end, Israel's
[03:43:04] conducted a genocide. And this apparently befuddles Dana Fash for understandable reasons.
[03:43:12] It is an inherently contradictory assessment, but I want to hear what Brad had to say. Because,
[03:43:18] like I said, he is in a very unique position. And I think he's also been a victim to a lot of
[03:43:27] heinous anti-Semitic attacks, especially in those last month or so, for maintaining this position.
[03:43:36] I'm not as critical of Brad Lander as many others are.
[03:43:40] And I know that that is part of the reason why people say I'm a Zionist myself, part of the
[03:43:46] reason why people say I'm a defender of Israel myself. So let's hear what he had to say in his
[03:43:54] own words. Challengers have, um, it's, it's very funny to hear Dana Bash also have this
[03:43:58] kind of, uh, assessment though.
[03:44:01] Outsid three incumbent Democrats and primaries just over the past.
[03:44:05] Much love from Tehran to you and your fam. How long you think we losing our net this time?
[03:44:09] Hopefully, uh, hopefully not at all.
[03:44:13] Last month, two of those happened right here in New York City. Brad Lander and Darryl Lisa
[03:44:18] Avila Cheveller both beat Democratic incumbents and are likely to win their November.
[03:44:24] elections in these deep blue districts. Brad Lander joins me now. Thank you so much for being here.
[03:44:30] Thank you. I want to ask, we were having these conversations earlier in the show that there's
[03:44:35] definitely a leftward shift towards where you are philosophically, showed up in your primary and
[03:44:41] others. But in less blue districts, there still are more moderate Democrats being elected. Even
[03:44:47] right here in New York, in New York 17, where Republican Mike Lawler is the congressman,
[03:44:53] Kate Connolly won the same day you did.
[03:44:55] So do you think that progressives like yourself
[03:44:58] could actually win in a place that isn't deep, deep blue?
[03:45:02] Well, I don't think the line really so much
[03:45:04] should be thought of as progressives versus moderates.
[03:45:07] To me, it's fighters versus folders.
[03:45:09] People are fed up with a status quo
[03:45:11] they don't feel is working for them.
[03:45:13] And that's true for working families
[03:45:15] in more moderate or frontline districts.
[03:45:17] Look at someone like Pat Ryan in the Hudson Valley
[03:45:20] who's been fighting on utility costs
[03:45:22] and just showing people I'm out there fighting for working families.
[03:45:26] CNN framing Lawler as a moderate compared to Lander? No, that's not what they did.
[03:45:33] CNN was paying attention to the primaries in the district that Lawler currently occupies,
[03:45:44] and in those primaries, obviously, a friend of the show, Effie Phillips,
[03:45:46] of Staley lost to a moderate candidate.
[03:45:53] So they're using that as a counter to say,
[03:45:55] see moderates are still winning in New York,
[03:45:58] in New York 17.
[03:46:01] So that's what I think can unite us.
[03:46:04] You know, whether you use Medicare for All
[03:46:07] and the Green New Deal, or whether you say,
[03:46:09] let's go confront the utility company that's bilking us,
[03:46:12] that's the energy all Democrats need to bring this fall.
[03:46:15] One of the big reasons you, when you're primary here is that you separated yourself from the
[03:46:20] incumbent Democrat Dan Goldman on Israel.
[03:46:24] You use the term genocide, he does not.
[03:46:26] You don't want to have the U.S. funding.
[03:46:31] Brad Lander funded Elvis Systems.
[03:46:33] If anyone look at Tehran, Parr's neighborhood in Tehran, they would not support Lander.
[03:46:39] Red Lander is not getting the sufficient support from Tehran.
[03:46:46] That's not surprising to me.
[03:46:49] Real militarily.
[03:46:51] You call yourself a liberal Zionist.
[03:46:54] What is a liberal Zionist?
[03:46:56] I believe in the vision of a Jewish and democratic Israel.
[03:47:00] I care about the place, but I don't think it's possible for it to be democratic while
[03:47:05] while it's occupying the West Bank in Gaza.
[03:47:08] And I don't think that Israel's conducting Gaza, which I do consider a genocide, is consistent
[03:47:13] with Jewish values.
[03:47:14] So to me, it's like you stand up and you call it as you see it.
[03:47:17] I don't want to keep sending U.S. military to Israel while it's violating international
[03:47:22] law and Palestinian human rights.
[03:47:24] But I wanted to actually honor international law and Palestinian human rights so it can
[03:47:29] be the Jewish and democratic Israel that I grew up believing in.
[03:47:33] I'm sorry.
[03:47:34] I just want to make sure I understand.
[03:47:35] that you don't think it's a democratic Israel?
[03:47:37] I want it to be a Jewish and democratic Israel right now.
[03:47:40] I don't think it's modeling democracy while it.
[03:47:44] Yeah.
[03:47:46] Like, so that is, this is kind of awesome.
[03:47:50] This is also part of the reason why I'm like,
[03:47:52] you know what, if he has this assessment, then great, okay?
[03:47:58] I don't know how it works,
[03:48:01] but it's so awesome that it fucking for rise day in a bash we're gonna what do
[03:48:06] you mean you just said you're a Zionist you're Jewish
[03:48:09] and you're saying the Jewish state is not democratic
[03:48:14] yeah
[03:48:16] yeah
[03:48:17] and here is
[03:48:19] what's important
[03:48:20] here's why i say he's in a very unique position here's why i say bradlander is in
[03:48:24] a very unique position
[03:48:28] someone
[03:48:29] who is Jewish, as someone who is of a demographic that has not let go of this idealism towards
[03:48:39] what Israel could be, what Israel should be, what Israel isn't.
[03:48:44] And the last part of that is what's very important, because he also openly recognizes
[03:48:49] that Israel isn't that, okay?
[03:48:55] The reason why I'm saying this, the reason why I'm saying he's in a unique space right
[03:49:00] now that he's in a very unique space that he occupies is because, is because, hate to
[03:49:14] do this, but I mean, this community is going to know this regardless, this is not a defense
[03:49:20] of this ideal, but Dana Bash does not respect someone like myself saying this. Okay? Dana
[03:49:31] Bash does not respect Zoramum Dhani saying this. Dana Bash might not even respect Norm
[03:49:37] Finkelstein saying this despite the fact that Norm is Jewish. But when Dana Bash hears
[03:49:42] this from Brad Lander, who is very clearly Jewish and has also maintained his posture
[03:49:49] about being a liberal Zionist when she hears that from someone like that, that's a guy
[03:49:57] that she's going to see at the cocktail party.
[03:50:00] That's a guy that's rubbing shoulders with other Jews and has a level of respect from
[03:50:05] other Jews because Dana Bash does not respect people who are either anti-Zionist Jews or
[03:50:12] anti-Zionists in general.
[03:50:15] Okay? Certainly no respect for anti Zionist Muslims, for example. Okay? Dana Bash, for
[03:50:22] example, does not like Bernie Sanders. Dana Bash does not have any respect for Bernie
[03:50:26] Sanders. Ironically enough, Brett Lander's perspective here, okay? Very clearly Jewish.
[03:50:35] You know, full world, I don't see Brett as a Jew. No, I think Dana Bash does. That's
[03:50:40] why she's so shocked by this assessment. Because I mean, he just straight up said, like, no,
[03:50:47] Israel's not fucking democratic. What are we talking about? She goes, what? Like this
[03:50:51] moment would not happen. It's also really interesting because ironically enough, I think
[03:50:57] Bernie Sanders in some ways is actually not as not as critical of Israel as as Brad
[03:51:05] And yet Dana hates Bernie more than Brad Lander.
[03:51:13] It's a weird situation.
[03:51:15] Look, then you said that you don't think it's a democratic Israel?
[03:51:26] I'm sorry.
[03:51:27] Did you just say you're a liberal Zionist and you said you don't think Israel's democratic?
[03:51:33] Like what?
[03:51:34] wanted to be a Jewish and democratic Israel. Right now, I don't think it's modeling democracy
[03:51:38] while it occupies the West Bank and Gaza, and half the people under its sovereignty
[03:51:42] can't vote, but I believe that when occupation ends, then it can be Jewish and democratic,
[03:51:49] and that's what I am going to be fighting for.
[03:51:52] Why are you not just a Zionist?
[03:51:54] Why do you say liberal Zionist?
[03:51:56] What do you think?
[03:51:57] This is the most confusing interview that the universe has ever conducted.
[03:52:14] Do you think the difference is?
[03:52:15] I mean, the Declaration of Independence that founded Israel says it would be a place for
[03:52:20] the ingathering of exiles and full civil and political rights for everyone living there.
[03:52:26] But Palestinians living in the West Bank facing settler terrorism or living in refugee camps
[03:52:31] in Gaza because their schools and hospitals were destroyed, they don't have full political
[03:52:35] and civil rights.
[03:52:36] So it is not living up to its founding vision.
[03:52:41] And to me, believing in Jewish and democratic means you got to fight for the human rights
[03:52:46] Palestinians at the same time as you fight for the safety of Jews. I guess maybe a shorthand
[03:52:51] way of saying it is, I don't think Israelis will be safe until Palestinians are free,
[03:52:56] and they both need that. Can I just ask you a point, Blank? Do you not call yourself a Zionist
[03:53:01] because it is a term that many people... She's like, come on, you're scared, right? You're scared.
[03:53:07] It's because there's a negative association with it. Yeah, Dana, I'm going to keep it a buck 50
[03:53:12] with you. And this is something Brad knows very well because he obviously keeps a lot of company
[03:53:17] with anti-Zionists. It doesn't matter if you say you're a liberal Zionist. Okay. Like, let's be real.
[03:53:24] I don't think people are like, oh, you're a liberal Zionist. Oh, okay. Never mind. Like,
[03:53:29] it's just, it's seen as a negative association because it's literally what Israel is. Okay.
[03:53:37] That's it. It's that simple. That's where the enmity comes from. It's not because of some
[03:53:45] hidden antisemitism that exists out there in the space, especially because Brad Lander is
[03:53:51] someone who's very familiar with a lot of anti-Zionists and his friends with a lot of anti-Zionists
[03:53:56] as has kept company with a lot of anti-Zionist on the hard left have started to use as a
[03:54:08] slur against Jews.
[03:54:09] Whoa.
[03:54:10] Yeah, definitely.
[03:54:16] People on the hard left that see it as a slur against Jews, like, that doesn't make any
[03:54:21] sense.
[03:54:22] Okay.
[03:54:23] If people on the hard left, in the way that Dana is presenting it, are using it as a slur against Jews,
[03:54:32] what the fuck would they make a distinction between liberal Zionism?
[03:54:35] Like what? That doesn't actually give him any sort of like tactical advantage at all.
[03:54:40] Okay, it doesn't. The irony is, I think here, to be as open-minded to what I consider to
[03:54:57] be an inherently contradictory assessment that Brad Lander is making is that his idealism
[03:55:04] is basically living out
[03:55:08] the logical conclusion of
[03:55:11] liberals ianism
[03:55:12] you're just mad that he's i guess sincere about it
[03:55:15] because if you were to look at liberals ianist as a
[03:55:18] the did the do you state solution
[03:55:20] as like
[03:55:21] a sincere request and not just something to get that people say to shut
[03:55:25] people the fuck up
[03:55:27] okay what he's saying is correct
[03:55:29] he's saying what there's gonna be palestinian living
[03:55:32] amongst Jews, but they're gonna have equal rights of representation. They're gonna be
[03:55:35] Jews that live among Palestinians in this two-state solution with equal rights of representation.
[03:55:40] That is literally what you want, right? I thought you wanted a two-state, Dana. What
[03:55:47] the fuck's going on?
[03:55:53] I'm so confused. I am so confused because that's the plan, right? It almost feels like
[03:56:01] bradlander maintaining this position as like i'm a sincere defender of the two
[03:56:05] state solution
[03:56:07] uh...
[03:56:09] i'm a sincere defender of the two-state solution all of a sudden bricks a lot of
[03:56:13] people who would define themselves as anus
[03:56:16] openly said that there are two-state believer
[03:56:21] all of a sudden you're you're frustrated by that
[03:56:25] what happened
[03:56:30] they had a two-stater a fake two-stater when they meet a real two-stater okay
[03:56:35] that's what's going on here
[03:56:37] the reality is
[03:56:39] look i don't i i think
[03:56:41] like what i think is the most just solution here
[03:56:47] is a is an abolition of the apartheid is an abolition of the occupation and end
[03:56:51] of the occupation
[03:56:52] i think that the most effective way to do that is
[03:56:55] that it recognizes the fact that one state currently that sovereign
[03:56:59] uh... and and
[03:57:01] make it a fair democratic process right make it a fair just democratic
[03:57:05] process equal representation
[03:57:07] a right to return all the stuff
[03:57:10] however we achieve that
[03:57:13] in a way where like the palestinians obviously have a say
[03:57:16] and and they're comfortable with is i'm fine with that you know what i mean
[03:57:21] that's it
[03:57:23] that is my north star on this conversation in this conversation is by
[03:57:27] national
[03:57:28] that's fine if the single state that's fine
[03:57:34] but
[03:57:36] what's interesting here is
[03:57:38] bradlander is literally exhausting the maximalist conclusion of a two-state
[03:57:43] option
[03:57:45] he's doing something very interesting here
[03:57:47] okay he's saying look this is this is idealistic
[03:57:52] but if we're making a serious assessment israel's an apartheid israel's an
[03:57:55] occupation
[03:57:57] any real two state, a real two state would look like if there is ever to be a Jewish majority
[03:58:04] democratic state. What that would mean is there's going to be a Jewish minority democratic state
[03:58:10] that the Palestinians occupy, right? Like that's what a two state would look like.
[03:58:16] And it almost, weirdly enough, just betrays or exposes the insincere nature of a lot of two
[03:58:28] staters. When a lot of insincere two staters meet someone who's saying, look, it seems impossible
[03:58:34] right now, but this is what I believe. And in order for this to happen, we have to come to
[03:58:39] the recognition that the current process is not democratic at all. When someone says the
[03:58:45] Quiet part out loud all of a sudden a lot of these two staters lose their fucking minds because if you were to ask Dana
[03:58:53] In any other moment
[03:58:56] Okay, if you were to ask Dana fash in any other conversation any other moment
[03:59:02] What do you think should happen should be like oh two states of course
[03:59:05] But because there's no follow-ups to how that could happen because there's no
[03:59:10] because that is supposed to be a
[03:59:12] a smoke grenade that you drop into every conversation that ends the conversation right then and
[03:59:20] there, because there's never any follow-ups on that, on how we're arriving at a two-state,
[03:59:25] what that looks like, what that means about the current predicament that Israel is in,
[03:59:29] the current occupation, because those are conversations that are never had.
[03:59:34] Someone like Brad Lander saying, like, yeah, I'm a real two-stater, right?
[03:59:42] I'm a real two-stater, all of a sudden everyone else looks like fake two-staters.
[03:59:50] No, I mean, a liberal Zionist is a Zionist.
[03:59:52] I just want to make clear I'm not a Zionist like Ben Gbeer or Smotritch.
[03:59:56] You want to eliminate Palestinians.
[03:59:57] So that's why I say that.
[03:59:59] You need to be an American and not believe in what Donald Trump believes in.
[04:00:02] To me, that's what I am here.
[04:00:04] I believe in the vision of a Jewish and democratic Israel, but it's got to change.
[04:00:08] That's the biggest difference, I think, from what I'm seeing.
[04:00:10] From what I am seeing, the biggest difference between what Brad Lander is saying is that,
[04:00:16] look, while it's idealistic, if you're going to be a two-stater, you have to be honest
[04:00:22] about the occupation, and you have to demand the end of the occupation.
[04:00:25] If you're a two-stater, you have to be honest about the apartheid, and you have to demand
[04:00:28] an end to that apartheid.
[04:00:30] Does that make sense?
[04:00:32] I'm not.
[04:00:33] I'm an anti-Zionist.
[04:00:34] Obviously, that's a big difference in opinion of what Zionism actually has represented for
[04:00:42] the Palestinians.
[04:00:43] There's always mass expulsion, death, ethnic cleansing, as opposed to this Zionist idealism
[04:00:50] that Brad Lander represents, which is something that Einstein, for example, would have defended
[04:00:56] at the time and spoke about at the time and recognized was not being followed through
[04:01:01] on at the time.
[04:01:04] So regardless though, his position is a much more honest assessment of what a two-state
[04:01:13] solution would look like, which comes with the recognition of what this current singular
[04:01:18] sovereign occupying state looks like than anybody else.
[04:01:25] So like I said, the simply put, what this is might come across as a pablum to a lot
[04:01:33] of anti-Zionists, but they're like, oh, he's like, cynically presenting this position.
[04:01:37] He's just saying that because he wants to like, maintain some kind of Jewish ethno-state.
[04:01:44] Like he doesn't want real accountability, all this stuff.
[04:01:48] But ultimately, what he's saying is actually exposing the insincere ways in which every
[04:01:54] single Zionist says they want to fucking to state.
[04:01:58] going to be that just like yes, this country.
[04:02:03] Can I ask you one other question on this?
[04:02:06] Could you set you talked about genocide and you talked about occupying Gaza?
[04:02:10] And I've also heard you talk about the fact that Israel went too far after October 7th.
[04:02:17] What would you have wanted Israel to do when a bunch of civilians-
[04:02:24] This is where I will probably diverge from Brad Lander's assessment completely, which
[04:02:33] is again, and the apartheid, like literally.
[04:02:37] About 1200, maybe 900 civilians also members of the military.
[04:02:44] Kubutniks, these were peaceniks, like you, who lived on the border with Gaza because
[04:02:49] Because they were desperate for Palestinian rights, and they were murdered brutally.
[04:02:56] If you were asked what would you do in response, what would you do?
[04:02:58] I mean, let me first clarify, I think Hamas committed an act of genocidal terrorism on
[04:03:02] October 7th.
[04:03:03] I don't agree with this.
[04:03:04] I don't agree with your response.
[04:03:05] I mean, priority one.
[04:03:07] I don't think it was genocidal.
[04:03:08] It should have been return of the hostages, getting them back to their families, and that
[04:03:13] I think would have been done faster with a political deal.
[04:03:16] And yes, accountability for the Hamas militants who conducted October 7th, 100 percent, but
[04:03:23] not killing 5,000 Palestinian kids under five and destroying them.
[04:03:27] And when Israel says that they tried, they tried hard to avoid this.
[04:03:31] I'm just playing devil's advocate, the civilians.
[04:03:33] But Hamas is so evil that it hid those terrorists and the weapons inside civilian populations.
[04:03:44] war crimes, don't justify other war crimes and destroying every single school and hospital
[04:03:50] and mosque and community center in Gaza and still occupying 70% of Gaza.
[04:03:56] In addition to being a violation of international law, it's just not working.
[04:03:59] This isn't actually going to make Israelis safe.
[04:04:02] Can I ask you about today?
[04:04:04] You endorsed Abdul al-Sayed, who's running against Hailey Stevens in Michigan.
[04:04:09] They're running to be the Democratic nominee for Senate there.
[04:04:14] He was asked by my colleague, Isaac Dovier, if someone could be a Zionist and a progressive.
[04:04:19] Here's what he said, every definition of a Jewish state ends up in some articulation
[04:04:24] of illiberal values, every single one.
[04:04:28] As go talk talk that go talk King
[04:04:42] It's true we understand this intrinsically we understand this in the United States of America when someone says America's supposed to be a white state
[04:04:50] Demographic interest in maintaining whiteness is primary
[04:04:55] It's very important. We understand what that looks like. We know, we know what that means.
[04:05:04] When someone says America is a Christian state, we must maintain a Christian nationalist
[04:05:10] attitude here in the United States of America. We understand what that looks like. We know
[04:05:15] that to get there, we'd have to do a lot of violence, okay?
[04:05:22] So, how can you say, how can you say
[04:05:29] that this has to be a Jewish state
[04:05:30] when there are non-Jews there?
[04:05:33] How can you say you care about the demographic concerns?
[04:05:39] Okay, now replace Jewish with vegan, not so funny now.
[04:05:44] we gotta stop doing this. Ethnocentrism, ethno supremacy is not compatible with our current
[04:05:57] understanding of democracy. That's the problem. And it's ironic because there is a shit ton
[04:06:06] of Jewish literature on this. Okay? They would do well to read them. There are a
[04:06:14] shit ton of Jewish academics who have written extensively on this concept. And
[04:06:18] I guess the the biggest irony, the biggest irony is a big part of our modern
[04:06:26] understanding, our modern interpretation of like never again, a lot of that comes
[04:06:30] from Holocaust scholarship, genocide scholarship. Not to say that this is like
[04:06:40] inherently a Jewish value or anything like that. I'm not saying that at all. But
[04:06:45] in the words of, I forget who it was, that Obama lady, the the envoy, the one
[04:06:52] that was in Obama's cabinet, who was like, we taught them too much about the
[04:06:56] Holocaust and they learned the wrong lesson. It literally is a part of it.
[04:07:02] Hasan is a king of performative leftism. Yes, it's true.
[04:07:08] It's really funny for leftists like Hasan, for them the deal breaker was when white American women were, women were his victims.
[04:07:15] Why would I trust Hasan when his cable was selling out to a Blackwater war criminal?
[04:07:18] Um, I, I hand selected Grand Plattner.
[04:07:21] And this is the Graham Plattner. Graham Cracker left. The Graham Plattner left.
[04:07:27] It was Sarah Hurwitz. Yes, that was who it was. Remember when Sarah Hurwitz said,
[04:07:35] we got to change the way we do Holocaust scholarship in this country.
[04:07:42] The one Israeli scholar who does what you say. Yeah. Omar Bartov.
[04:07:49] and Israeli professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Brown University argues that Zionism
[04:07:53] is an ideology of extremism, militarism, racism, and genocide. Zionism is not reformable.
[04:07:57] This is fucking huge, by the way, because guess what? This was always the case,
[04:08:03] but I'll take it. I'll take someone like Omar Bartoff openly talking about like how,
[04:08:07] oh, Zionism has lost its way. The reason why I'll take it is because that is going to be far more
[04:08:14] impactful in changing the mindset of a lot of Jews than I ever could be. And now you might say,
[04:08:21] who gives a fuck, right? Well, the reality of the matter is, it takes a village and it takes
[04:08:27] internal pressure as well. If this is a Jewish supremacist ideology, if Zionism is a Jewish
[04:08:34] supremacist ideology, whether you believe that it turned into that now or whether you
[04:08:39] understand that it was always that way, in its expression, in the way that it operated,
[04:08:46] in the way that it justified ethnic cleansing of the indigenous non-Jewish Palestinians,
[04:08:52] it still doesn't matter. It's important for there to be internal voices that are also
[04:08:57] chipping away at this, okay? There's no other way to break this dam.
[04:09:01] them. Because when you have more visible Jews coming out and speaking out against Zionism
[04:09:09] in this way, okay, when you have, you know, Jews and Jewish institutions in America coming
[04:09:17] out, that makes it easier for us to make this argument. That makes it easier for us not to
[04:09:24] fall into the trap of leaning into anti-Semitic narratives, because anti-Semitic narratives
[04:09:29] at the end of the day and this is not to like, you know, place a special interest in Jews
[04:09:33] and preserve their ego or preserve their feelings or anything like that.
[04:09:38] Antisemitism, not only is obviously heinous, is bigoted, but it also is unproductive.
[04:09:45] If you're going to just think about it like that, if you're like, I don't care, you know,
[04:09:48] this is a, this is a Jewish problem.
[04:09:50] I don't care if that's your attitude, if that's your assessment, you have to understand like
[04:09:53] people that feel that way are not actually invested in the end to this apartheid.
[04:09:59] who feel that way are not invested in the dissolution of the apartheid in the end of
[04:10:04] the occupation, they're just invested in dealing with the Jews. They just want the Jews to
[04:10:09] get the fuck out of here. They don't care if they go to Israel. They don't care if Israel
[04:10:13] is violent because those people also don't give a shit about Muslims. They don't give
[04:10:17] a shit about even Arab Christians, right? They don't care at all. They don't give a
[04:10:27] it. So thinking that those guys are going to be your salvation is dumb. Thinking that
[04:10:38] those people are going to be your allies is dumb. I mean, Nick Fuentes has come out and
[04:10:44] has openly now talked about like he used to do such a convincing narrative around the
[04:10:52] Liberation of Palestinians or the or the crimes of Israel against Palestinians and there are so many clips out there
[04:11:00] And he ain't good off of that
[04:11:03] There were a lot of people who watched it. There were liberals who watched and were like damn
[04:11:06] This guy's really cooking you guys would come in here and tell me about it all the fucking time
[04:11:10] And I couldn't just he was so goddamn annoying always
[04:11:15] Nowadays Nick went this is very openly saying look those Muslims hate us who gives a fuck if they get destroyed
[04:11:21] who gives a fuck if they get killed? Okay? If you don't have a perspective that revolves
[04:11:31] around, if you don't have a perspective that starts with the recognition of the humanity
[04:11:37] of the Palestinians, okay, then you're not going to be serious about the dissolution
[04:11:43] of the apartheid. You have to have a moral conviction that revolves around recognizing
[04:11:51] the humanity of the Palestinians and also a moral conviction that centers around anti-genocide
[04:11:58] and anti-fascism. This isn't just purity politics. This is having a principled approach
[04:12:05] to an issue because you want to actually solve it. And if you don't have a principled approach
[04:12:09] to this issue, then you will never solve it. You will cast it aside. It's just a bargaining
[04:12:15] chip for you. One day, you're gaining prominence amongst like anti-Zionists. The next day,
[04:12:19] you can just throw them to the fucking wolves. That's what Nick Flentes is doing right now.
[04:12:24] And that's what I suspect. Someone like Tucker Carlson will inevitably do as well. That's
[04:12:28] what I suspect, you know, Marjorie Taylor-Green might do, even if they come across as far
[04:12:33] more sincere in their advocacy than even Nick Flentes is, right?
[04:12:38] That's why principles matter. That's why moral conviction in this regard matters.
[04:12:43] Okay?
[04:12:52] If your moral framework begins at supremacists for your in-group, rather than liberation and solidarity for all,
[04:12:59] then all of the things that you're saying, all of your allegiances are transactional, and you will just cast them aside.
[04:13:05] On a moment's notice if someone offers you a better bargain
[04:13:10] That's it
[04:13:13] That's it
[04:13:17] And yeah, this is
[04:13:19] This is what I was talking about with respect to Holocaust education backfiring
[04:13:23] This is a former Obama speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz
[04:13:26] Lamenting to the Jewish Federation another one of my favorite type of clips my least favorite type of clips
[04:13:32] another Jewish conference
[04:13:34] where you have prominent Zionist Jews sitting in front of, you know, like the Jewish National Fund or
[04:13:42] the Jewish Federation and a placard that says, you know, this is what we care about. We're all Jews
[04:13:48] here, where you're going to hear some horrifying anti-Semitic screeds from a prominent Jewish
[04:13:56] Zionist who will sit there and be like, yeah, we control the media. Yeah, we're really fucked up on
[04:14:01] this issue, all this stuff, it's unbelievable how much this does to anti-Semitism and its
[04:14:09] growth in this country. And yet, no one seems to see it that way.
[04:14:13] Since October 7th, but really before then, there have been huge shifts in America on
[04:14:18] how people think about Jews and Israel. And I think that is especially true of young people.
[04:14:24] Why are only Jewish voices taken seriously in the rest of Palestine? One liberal Jews
[04:14:27] says war crimes and that's enough for you. It was never a war. It's not two-sided. Brad's a bum.
[04:14:33] Buddy, I think I've made my position very clear on this issue and I'm also not Jewish myself.
[04:14:40] I don't know if you know this or not. I'm Muslim, okay? But we're having a conversation about
[04:14:49] the way that Jews talk about this, the way that someone like Brad Lanter talks about this. It's
[04:14:54] a different audience. He's speaking to a different audience. He's not speaking to you. Okay? You know
[04:15:00] what's up. It's kind of like when I talk about white supremacy and anti-blackness. Some people will
[04:15:06] say it's not enough. Some people will say it's not enough. It's on your white. You'll never
[04:15:11] understand it. And it's true. I won't. I won't. I can't. I will never be able to fully understand
[04:15:17] and what it's like to be a black American, okay? I won't. I can't. I'm white, or at least
[04:15:24] I'm white passing the oath. Most I can do at most. What I can do is, is identify a level
[04:15:30] of marginalization that I may have experienced at some point in my life and connected to
[04:15:35] that. And some people can't even do that. So they have to learn what it's like. Okay.
[04:15:48] Yeah, you write. See, there you go. That's simple. So different strokes for different folks.
[04:15:58] In order to build a broad movement, a broad coalition,
[04:16:01] in order to build a broad movement and a broad coalition, you're going to have people that
[04:16:06] don't fully subscribe to your worldview. You're going to have people that you don't even understand
[04:16:10] what the contradictions look like, but it doesn't matter because it's not actually speaking to you.
[04:16:14] You already know what's up. And I try to stress this to black Americans all the time, black people
[04:16:19] in general, all the time when I say like, look, when I talk about, when I talk about anti-blackness
[04:16:24] that's foundational to the American existence. I'm trying to educate white
[04:16:31] people or non-black people, okay? You're black. You already know what that looks
[04:16:36] like. You already live it every day. And the same thing goes here. I understand
[04:16:41] when an American Jew, an American Jewish person of this demographic especially,
[04:16:48] when they're talking about their complex understanding of the nation-state of
[04:16:54] Israel. They're filling a void. They're filling a very important role, a very complex one,
[04:17:00] because let's be real. What we want and what is happening in reality are two separate things.
[04:17:10] In a just world, you would have Gabor Matheon CNN destroying Dana Bash. You would have Norm
[04:17:16] Finkelstein on MSNBC destroying the house when they try to dare bring up a ridiculous idea,
[04:17:22] but that's not the world we live in. The world we live in right now requires people like Brad Lander
[04:17:29] who might confuse us at times, okay?
[04:17:36] But as long as someone is actually moving the needle in the appropriate direction,
[04:17:40] as long as they do not present themselves in impediment to further progress on this conversation,
[04:17:44] Then what can you say you just kick back and you watch and you hope for the best
[04:18:00] To your point even is really put as a strong reaction towards Lander because they hate seeing him wear the contradictions on a sleeve
[04:18:07] Yeah, Brad Lander was the word Zionist to keep meaning something
[04:18:09] While he does the work emptying it
[04:18:11] He accuses Israel genocide campaigns and it's military and now indoors of the Los Angeles as every former Jewish statehood ends in illiberalism
[04:18:18] Whatever that is it is in Zionism. No in some respects
[04:18:23] It's supposed to be the the fucking principal to state or liberal Zionism that people claim they care about people can't claim
[04:18:30] They believe so maybe you don't believe it
[04:18:34] And for the longest time I think people got away with saying this shit
[04:18:38] That's why I said from the start, when a fake two-stater meets a real two-stater, all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose.
[04:18:48] What happened? I thought you wanted a fucking two-state.
[04:18:53] I thought you wanted a two-state where there's a Jewish majority state, and then there's a Palestinian majority state, where the Jews are the minority.
[04:19:07] There's a Jewish majority say with the Palestinians are minority and then there's a Palestinian majority say with the Jews are the minority
[04:19:14] That's what a two-state looks like
[04:19:17] So why are you fucking bitching?
[04:19:20] Perhaps it's because no one has ever called in the question this fucking silliness
[04:19:26] So now you got a guy who's saying look I'm a Jewish man. I'm a liberal Zionist
[04:19:31] This is what a two-state would look like
[04:19:33] like, definitionally, and a big part of that comes with the recognition that there isn't
[04:19:37] a bar tide happening right now, there's an occupation happening right now, and everybody
[04:19:41] goes, whoa, whoa, whoa!
[04:19:44] The fuck do you mean?
[04:19:47] So yes, Brad Lander, despite my disagreements with his ideology, despite my disagreements
[04:19:52] with his worldview, actually occupies a very complex role here that genuinely forces people
[04:19:57] to recognize these contradictions, recognize this hypocrisy, and it empties out the argument
[04:20:05] for what a two-state looks like.
[04:20:09] Anyway, here's Sarah Hurwitz, an Obama speechwriter, talking about how the Holocaust education
[04:20:13] went too far.
[04:20:14] I think that since October 7th, but really before then, there have been huge shifts in
[04:20:19] America on how people think about Jews and Israel.
[04:20:22] And I think that is especially true of young people.
[04:20:25] So we are now wrestling with a new, I think, generational divide here.
[04:20:29] And I think that's particularly true in that social media is now our source of media.
[04:20:34] And this used to be that the media you got in America was American media, and it was
[04:20:39] pretty mainstream.
[04:20:40] You know, it generally didn't express extreme anti-Israel views.
[04:20:44] You had to go to a pretty weird bookstore to find global media and fringe media.
[04:20:49] But today we have social media, which is a global medium.
[04:20:53] It is shaped, its algorithms are shaped by billions of people worldwide who don't really
[04:20:58] love Jews.
[04:20:59] And so while in the 1990s, a young person probably wasn't going to find Al Jazeera or someone
[04:21:04] like Nick Fuentes, today those media outlets find them.
[04:21:08] They find them on their phones.
[04:21:10] It's also this increasingly post-literate media, less and less text, more and more videos.
[04:21:15] So you have TikTok just smashing our young people's brains all day long with video of
[04:21:21] Carnage and Gaza.
[04:21:23] And this is why so many of us can't have a sane conversation with younger Jews, because
[04:21:27] anything that we try to say to them, they are hearing it through this wall of carnage.
[04:21:32] So I want to give data and information and facts and arguments, and they are just seeing
[04:21:36] in their minds carnage, and I sound obscene.
[04:21:40] And I think, unfortunately, the very smart, I think, bet that we made on Holocaust education
[04:21:46] to serve as anti-Semitism education.
[04:21:48] In this new media environment, I think that is beginning to break down a little bit, because
[04:21:54] Holocaust education is absolutely essential, but I think it may be confusing some of our
[04:21:59] young people about anti-Semitism because they learn about big, strong Nazis hurting weak,
[04:22:04] emaciated Jews, and they think, oh, anti-Semitism is like anti-Black racism, right? Powerful
[04:22:09] white people against powerless Black people. So when on TikTok, all day long, they see
[04:22:14] powerful Israelis hurting weak skinny Palestinians. It's not surprising that they think, oh, I
[04:22:20] know the lesson of the Holocaust is you fight Israel.
[04:22:23] Wasn't there an older lady who served in a Biden admin who was even more depraved on
[04:22:27] the subject? Yes, you're talking about famous anti-Semitism, Deborah Lipstadt. Is it Lipshit's
[04:22:36] or Lipstadt? One or the other? But that is, that is a fucking even more insane one. I
[04:22:42] like this one because it's very instructive. I like this statement because it's like unbelievably
[04:22:51] instructive where she just straight up says, we taught, I mean, this is literally like,
[04:22:58] we taught them too much. We really went above and beyond with the whole Holocaust education.
[04:23:09] And, and now it's backfiring because now we're doing it, you know?
[04:23:17] It's crazy.
[04:23:18] It is one of the most depraved statements, right?
[04:23:22] Because you only arrive at this if you genuinely believe that, you only arrive at this conclusion
[04:23:30] if you genuinely fucking believe that never again means just for Jews.
[04:23:35] You only arrive at this position if you sincerely think Jews are above non-Jews.
[04:23:43] It's Jewish supremacy, and that's at the heart of Zionism.
[04:23:47] Not like the theoretical Zionism that Brad Lander wants to advance and defend, but like
[04:23:54] what Zionism looks like right now.
[04:23:58] And of course, from my perspective, what Zionism has always been.
[04:24:04] me once Sarah Hurwitz compared Al Jazeera journalist to Nick Fuent as this is the smear
[04:24:07] pro Israel crowd will try to use against anyone who effectively educates people about what
[04:24:11] exactly the U.S. enables Israel to get away with occupation of apartheid and genocide.
[04:24:22] I also genuinely don't understand why like these kinds of conferences happen all the
[04:24:27] time and and and a lot of the people that participate in these conferences like they
[04:24:32] They just haven't realized that we can see and hear what they're saying.
[04:24:37] Like this isn't private, man.
[04:24:39] You're on a fucking stage.
[04:24:41] You're in front of like thousands of people.
[04:24:43] You're in front of cameras.
[04:24:45] Like you didn't, like what the fuck is happening?
[04:24:50] It's just so strange to just be like, yeah, no, this is really fucked up.
[04:24:55] We, we taught the Goyim too much.
[04:25:01] I'm sorry.
[04:25:02] Hello? Yeah, these are important values that people learned about. Like,
[04:25:10] never again means never again for anybody, not just never again for Jews.
[04:25:17] Like, the idea that, like, people that haven't gotten this level of Zionist indoctrination
[04:25:28] Or the irony, of course, is it's not even people that have gotten designers indoctrination,
[04:25:37] because there are a lot of younger Jews who went through this process, but then their
[04:25:44] formative experiences with Israel was genocide.
[04:25:48] So now they're not bought into it at all, either, and that fucking makes these people
[04:25:52] so mad that frustrates them endlessly.
[04:25:55] That's part of the reason why I always jokingly refer to the Jonathan Greenblatt's like singular
[04:26:00] focus hyper fixation on someone like myself as like being a person that has convinced
[04:26:07] his nieces and nephews that, you know, Israel is not a great place, right?
[04:26:14] In order for the Zionist project to continue, you have to have loyal soldiers who are Jews
[04:26:20] as well, right?
[04:26:21] you can't just get away with it with evangelical Christians in the West and then have the biggest
[04:26:30] torture.
[04:26:31] Hey, get over here. Get over here. That's crazy. That's crazy. Every since she learned
[04:26:46] Ever since she learned how to open this door, it's crazy.
[04:26:50] She just fucking walks up and it's just like, get the fuck out of here.
[04:26:56] Yeah. Even at the beginning of the clip, she says, we taught the Holocaust
[04:26:59] a lesson about the dangers of antisemmins. This is such a, uh, such a narrow lens.
[04:27:03] Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Kaya, place.
[04:27:08] Kaya, place.
[04:28:16] Sorry.
[04:28:23] Is your room getting smaller recently?
[04:28:37] No.
[04:28:38] I will cancel you for this.
[04:28:40] Okay.
[04:28:41] Okay. Anyway, let's hear what Brad Lander had to say about Abdu'l say. It's a comment.
[04:28:48] How did you square what you just said about believing in the notion of a democratic Israel
[04:28:55] and what he said, which is there is no such thing as that.
[04:29:01] We disagree on that. That's how I square it. Now we agree on a lot of...
[04:29:04] It's not important enough for you that...
[04:29:05] Well, look, I met Abdu'l through our dear mutual friend, Adi Barkin, this amazing activist
[04:29:10] who died of ALS, courageously championing Medicare for All.
[04:29:14] And I don't think anybody's going to fight as hard to fulfill Adi's vision of healthcare
[04:29:18] for everybody as Abdul El Sayed.
[04:29:20] Dude, this is, okay, can I say something?
[04:29:27] You know how there's this idea that race traders get the first bullet?
[04:29:34] This was represented perfectly in the racist Islamophobic movie that Uwe Ball made, where
[04:29:43] Armie Hammer, the cannibal, goes and first kills white people before he goes on a killing
[04:29:47] spree of Muslims.
[04:29:51] Because Dana has this supremacist framework, Dana is operating off of the supremacist
[04:29:59] framework as well, that you see the ire that she has, or someone like Brad, where she goes,
[04:30:07] how dare you align yourself with this Muslim who happens to have this disagreement with
[04:30:16] you? How dare you align yourself with someone who could ever say such a thing that a Jewish
[04:30:25] state is illiberal in nature. How dare you? But she's looking at Brad lander as a race
[04:30:31] trader.
[04:30:32] Yeah, and the fight as hard to read, which is there is no such thing. We disagree on that.
[04:30:46] That's how I square it. Now we agree on a lot of you that, well, I'm not Abdul through
[04:30:51] our dear mutual friend, Adi Barkan, this amazing activist who died of ALS.
[04:30:57] How are you? This is extra crazy for me because from everything I know about Jewish thinkers and
[04:31:06] Jewish culture, academics, revolutionaries, this kind of supremacist mentality is legitimately
[04:31:15] a newfound phenomena in the aftermath of the advent of Zionism. And not even like Zionism
[04:31:22] at its inception, there were some who believed this, obviously many Jews didn't. But like,
[04:31:28] this is not to get phillosomatic here, but this is categorically not Jewish.
[04:31:36] In a way, it's no different than like when Stephen Miller or Josh Shapiro will be like,
[04:31:44] We'll talk about what their faith means to them, specifically, Josh Spiro.
[04:31:51] Felix makes this joke all the time, where it's like, there is this, the way that Josh Spiro
[04:31:58] will be like, oh, my faith, it comes across like positively waspy, right?
[04:32:08] It's not very Jewish. And it's certainly not very Jewish unless you're talking about
[04:32:14] like Cajanes, uh, when you, when you have this kind of like in-group, out-group dynamic where
[04:32:21] you're like, how dare you fucking, how dare you fucking allow a non-Jew to speak this way about
[04:32:28] the Jewish state? You know what I mean? Rageously championing Medicare for all and I don't think
[04:32:34] anybody's gonna fight. We are magical beings, we have our lump and prowl too. Dog, you think
[04:32:38] fucking Dana Bash is lump and prole. That's greatly no Dana Bash is is not even a small
[04:32:45] C but a big C capital owner. Okay. That's funny to say Dana Bash is lump and prole.
[04:32:52] Yeah, she's a vagrant. She is a she is a part of the dispossessed masses. No, she's just
[04:33:03] a straightforward, you know, kind of flashy member of the bourgeois.
[04:33:13] As hard to fulfill Adi's vision of healthcare for everybody as Abdul El Sayed and fight
[04:33:18] to get money out of politics, we disagree on this.
[04:33:21] Now, I believe that he cares about fighting for the safety of Jews in Michigan and the
[04:33:27] human rights and dignity of Israelis.
[04:33:30] believes in a binational state with equal rights for all its people. I believe in two states,
[04:33:35] one majority of Jews with equal rights for its Palestinian minority, one a majority of
[04:33:39] Palestinians with equal rights for its minority Jews. That's a difference. Of course we are.
[04:33:45] Wait, wait, wait, wait. What did Dana say? Fuck, I missed it. Oh, it's so awesome. It's so fucking
[04:33:52] Awesome, dude. She's, this is, this is a clinic. Look, it's not my speed. It's not my cup of tea.
[04:34:00] It's not for me. Okay. But it is, this is for a very specific person. Ironically enough,
[04:34:08] probably better for the CNN audience than I ever could be. Because like, if I, if I were to have
[04:34:17] have a conversation with Dana, like it would not go like this, right? And the immediate
[04:34:23] CNN audience would not appreciate it. Probably a lot more people would appreciate it outside
[04:34:27] of the CNN audience. But let's be real, I don't think she'd be able to even keep her
[04:34:32] composure, which she's failing to do with Brad as well. But this is for exactly the
[04:34:40] CNN watching audience, okay?
[04:34:42] with equal rights for its minority Jews, that's a difference you, of course we are, and a
[04:34:49] lot else is going to have to do, we're going to have to get Netanyahu out, and Ben Gverin
[04:34:52] Smutrich out, and Hamas out.
[04:34:55] It's a difference that we have, but at the base level you don't compromise on anyone's
[04:35:01] humanity.
[04:35:02] And you don't think by him not believing in what you believe in the notion of a Jewish
[04:35:08] state of Israel compromises your humanity?
[04:35:10] I don't.
[04:35:11] why would that be the case
[04:35:16] sometimes
[04:35:18] when i hear someone
[04:35:20] basically arrive at like the the
[04:35:23] you know logical conclusion their limit
[04:35:25] okay
[04:35:26] when i hear someone sincerely advances on like are you
[04:35:30] fucking insane are you just saying this in a cynical way
[04:35:34] why
[04:35:35] what the fuck
[04:35:37] does that have to do
[04:35:38] with the humanity
[04:35:41] an american jewish man
[04:35:43] what are you saying
[04:35:47] have you ever thought of a world outside of like
[04:35:51] israel not existing in the way that it currently does
[04:35:54] has this ever even factored into the equation at all
[04:35:59] is you only believe this if you generally think like literally all of the
[04:36:03] permanent international holocaust will take place if israel is not
[04:36:08] a supremacist state that is doing an apartheid at all times
[04:36:11] numerous front wars
[04:36:13] but constantly fucking bludgeoning its neighbors constantly expanding in its
[04:36:17] territory
[04:36:19] but do you what are you saying
[04:36:23] how the fuck
[04:36:24] how the fuck
[04:36:26] uh... is there a world where
[04:36:29] holocaust two holocaust three holocaust four is happening in real time if is
[04:36:34] real is not a nazi state how is that possible
[04:36:37] How can you genuinely believe this?
[04:36:39] These people are just like otherwise normal human beings.
[04:36:43] This is a fucking insane thing to believe.
[04:36:47] You know, you went to college, you read books,
[04:36:51] you live in the normal world, you live in New York City.
[04:36:55] How can you sincerely fucking believe this?
[04:36:59] If you live in New York City,
[04:37:03] I don't get it.
[04:37:07] And, you know, he's been clear that he wants full and equal civil rights and human rights
[04:37:17] for Israelis and Palestinians and for Jews.
[04:37:20] We have a difference in how we approach achieving it, but, but I believe that there's room to
[04:37:25] work together.
[04:37:26] Um, just one other question on the question of Zionism, because...
[04:37:30] Yeah, she's in front of living proof that New York City Jews don't think like her, which
[04:37:33] is why it's like breaking her brain.
[04:37:37] I've heard and not even this is important though because this is like not even a New York Jew like norm
[04:37:45] Okay, that's what's so different too
[04:37:48] Because like look Brad Lander
[04:37:52] Brad Lander goes to a
[04:37:55] synagogue that is almost entirely comprised of you know liberal Zionists
[04:38:01] ultra-zionists, some anti-zionists potentially, but probably not a lot because I feel like anti-zionists
[04:38:07] usually opt out and stuff like that after a certain while. Like, Brad Lander is not like
[04:38:16] Norm Finkelstein in some ways, right? Brad Lander has the capacity to penetrate Dana Bash's circle
[04:38:27] friends and social circle and actually change people's minds there which is why she sees
[04:38:32] this as like a very visible threat.
[04:38:36] You know what I mean?
[04:38:46] Chess stop being weird I said penetrate come on I know every time I say fucking penetrate
[04:38:51] you literally have to go home. You're like 12. Okay, stop it.
[04:38:58] And to some of the podcasts that you're on and watching some of your interviews and you
[04:39:02] talk about how you get attacked from the left of which you are a part being called a Zionist
[04:39:10] baby killer. And on the right, maybe in the Jewish world calling you a capo, which for
[04:39:14] people who don't know those were the Jews who were helping keep the peace, so to speak
[04:39:19] in the Nazi concentration camps and I which I wonder which camp
[04:39:25] I wonder which camp Dana falls into I wonder what Dana thinks of Brad after this interview maybe I'm
[04:39:30] wrong but we watched eight minutes of this so far and I don't know this is like when I did that
[04:39:37] LBC interview where the guy was like I really think the home secretary fucked up by banning you and
[04:39:41] by the end of the interview was like I actually agree with Shabana Mahmood like this is turning
[04:39:47] out to be like, yeah, I wanted to have a conversation with you to understand where you're coming from.
[04:39:50] But also, you know. And I ask this because this word Zionist has been turned into a slur
[04:40:00] by a lot of people. And you just, you talk about how you have experienced that yourself.
[04:40:04] Deborah Lipstadt, who is a very, a world renowned scholar on these issues, I asked her, she said,
[04:40:10] I do believe that and no, no, no, you did not bring up. You talk about how you have experienced
[04:40:17] that yourself. Deborah Lipsch. Deborah Lipsch that is who we were talking about earlier.
[04:40:22] Biden's anti-Semitism czar Deborah Lipsch that famously sued the Holocaust denier David David
[04:40:30] Irving or David Irving, right? The one who wrote the books about the Holocaust being fake and shit.
[04:40:36] it. Very famous case in the UK. She is insane. Like, you should find that was an important
[04:40:42] legal case, right? No, it wasn't David Eich. No, it's not David Eich. It was someone else.
[04:40:50] Anyway, it doesn't matter. She is an insane supremacist. Okay? Straight up. Straight up.
[04:41:06] She is like, they made a movie about it called Denial. Yeah. There it is. And what's wild
[04:41:12] about this, what's wild about this is that Deborah Lipstadt is just as racist as David
[04:41:19] Irwing is. Okay? That's what's so crazy. Because when you hear Deborah Lipstadt talk about
[04:41:30] Israel. When you hear her talk about Arabs, when you hear her talk about Palestinians,
[04:41:35] when you hear her talk about what Israel has done to the Lebanese population, like celebrating the
[04:41:40] pager act of terrorism, Deborah comes across as a full-tilt Nazi, right? She comes across as a full-blown
[04:41:52] Jewish supremacist. She comes across like a fucking, a cahanist, no different than that.
[04:42:00] So for Dana to bring her up as a reasonable person is ridiculous
[04:42:07] Okay
[04:42:08] full-fash
[04:42:10] That who is a very a world-renowned
[04:42:14] Scholar on these issues. I asked her she said I do believe that anti Zionism is anti-Semitism
[04:42:19] However, I also believe that anti Zionism has morphed into its own kind of demonization and hatred a prejudice all its own
[04:42:27] So I disagree with that also means yeah, also
[04:42:31] It's really funny. Yeah today Debra Lipschad who built a career on defending the memory of the Shoah and demanding historical justice for his victims is
[04:42:39] Amplifying a call for the New York Times editors to facing Nuremberg style public hanging
[04:42:44] And also highlighting Adam Lewis Klein, which is really funny
[04:42:50] Which is really funny because what Debra Lipschad said right there is Adam Lewis Klein's like
[04:42:56] like, uh, lives work basically, uh, that anti-Zionism is the truest version of anti-Semitism.
[04:43:02] I love that guy.
[04:43:03] He's so funny.
[04:43:04] He's so fucking stupid.
[04:43:05] Zionists can be used as a slur, and believe me, if you look at my mentions, I hear it
[04:43:09] that way.
[04:43:10] But, you know, my kid, my son, is named after this, uh, gymatic Edelman, who was a, a Buddhist,
[04:43:15] a Jewish democratic socialist in the Warsaw Ghetto, who helped lead the Warsaw Ghetto uprising
[04:43:21] like that.
[04:43:22] So seriously, I take the legacy of Jews who fought Nazis.
[04:43:26] He was not a Zionist.
[04:43:27] He didn't believe in a sovereign Jewish state.
[04:43:30] Even Albert Einstein, who they asked to be the president of Israel, wanted it to be safe
[04:43:35] for Jewish life even in Israel and Palestine.
[04:43:40] But he worried that Jewish sovereignty would have dangerous consequences.
[04:43:44] So there are anti-Zionists who are members of my synagogue who I can tell you are absolutely
[04:43:50] not anti-Semitic, who care about the safety of Jews, who don't believe that the state
[04:43:55] isn't making Jews safer. That's not my position.
[04:43:58] Yeah, Brad Lander is a very interesting guy for this reason. Look, found in the archives,
[04:44:02] at ritual circumcision of a son, Lander and wife declared,
[04:44:05] we are thrilled to pronounce you a Jew without the right to return.
[04:44:07] Your name contains our deep hope that you will explore and celebrate your Jewish identity without
[04:44:11] confusing it with nationalism. By the way, I'll also not be hit.
[04:44:16] just saying. But also, again, again, like this is maybe not our cup of tea, right?
[04:44:29] But it serves a different purpose. Now, people will say who cares, right? Who cares? The situation is a crisis, a genocide.
[04:44:54] But that's precisely the reason why I have a different approach to this kind of stuff, where it's like,
[04:44:58] If someone is not an impediment to progress, and as a matter of fact, is filling a different
[04:45:04] role that I would never be able to fill, I'm not going to cast away potential allies of
[04:45:09] the future.
[04:45:10] And by that, I don't even mean Brad Lander.
[04:45:12] I mean, I'm talking about people that Brad Lander could convince, because it's important.
[04:45:19] We need everyone we can get, okay?
[04:45:22] And if American Jews did not play a critical role in this process, then the Zionist advocacy
[04:45:32] organizations wouldn't spend a good deal of time and effort trying to make sure that every
[04:45:37] American Jew born on US soil is not learning from birth a critical supply of pro-Israel
[04:45:46] sentiment is not being indoctrinated as aggressively as possible. Okay? That's it.
[04:45:55] But I don't think it's anti-Semitic. Let's look ahead to 2028.
[04:45:59] What do you expect and want from a Democratic candidate for president?
[04:46:05] First and foremost, a vision of an economy that works for working people, a vision for
[04:46:10] healthcare and housing and childcare that people can afford. Folks are desperate. They feel the
[04:46:14] system is rigged against them.
[04:46:16] Now they see like AI data centers poisoning their water
[04:46:20] and taking their jobs, a vision that works for working people,
[04:46:24] a vision for political reform.
[04:46:26] We're going to have to do something about the Supreme
[04:46:28] Court, about gerrymandering, about money and politics,
[04:46:32] and also a hopeful energy.
[04:46:34] I have to tell you, like what's been moving in New York
[04:46:37] since the NICS won, and we have the World Cup.
[04:46:39] There's a hopeful energy that Mayor Mondani
[04:46:42] has been able to tap into.
[04:46:45] I wanted something like that for our country as a whole.
[04:46:48] Going back to our discussion before,
[04:46:50] there are, I think, at least a trio,
[04:46:53] maybe more of potential candidates in 2028 who are Jewish.
[04:47:00] You have Josh Shapiro, governor of Pennsylvania,
[04:47:04] JB Pritzker, Illinois, Asaf, Senator Asaf,
[04:47:07] Senator from Georgia and Rahm Emanuel.
[04:47:11] They're all critical of Prime Minister Netanyahu, but they all believe that Israel's right to
[04:47:15] exist and have stopped short of calling what's happening in Gaza genocide.
[04:47:21] Do you think that somebody with those views and that religion could be the nominee for
[04:47:27] president in the Democratic Party?
[04:47:29] I do.
[04:47:30] I think it's going to require clarity that we need a reset in the U.S. relationship with
[04:47:34] Israel.
[04:47:35] I think saying we're not going to continue to provide the 2,000-pound bombs that destroyed
[04:47:39] Gaza, that we're going to insist on human rights and international law compliance, and
[04:47:45] we're going to stop aid until that happens, and that Israel has to step up to recognizing
[04:47:53] that what's necessary is self-determination for Palestinians and-
[04:47:57] Dr. Abdul Al Sayed, what the fuck?
[04:47:59] Does he have a actual, does he have a Twitch account now?
[04:48:05] a horizon of political mutual recognition and peace. Look, and I'm happy to explain to any of them
[04:48:14] why I think Rafael Lemkin, the Polish Jew and Holocaust survivor who developed the term genocide,
[04:48:20] the Lemkin Institute considers what's happening there, genocide, like Omar Bartoff.
[04:48:25] Dude, I swear to God, it literally is. Bro, it's just straight up. This is like
[04:48:33] like saying the quiet part out loud, as long as no one, as long as no one ever addressed
[04:48:44] this kind of thing, as long as no one ever turned around and was like, this is what the
[04:48:48] two states are supposed to look like, then it was fine.
[04:48:52] Okay?
[04:48:53] Then it was fine.
[04:48:54] It was a great, it was a great fun little experiment that we had, you know?
[04:49:01] a great and fun experiment that we had. You can bracket off the, the anti-Zionist Jews as bad
[04:49:07] Jews. You never have them on. You just tell them to shut the fuck up or you don't even have to call
[04:49:13] them copos if you just don't ever have them on your platforms, which by the way, again, never,
[04:49:20] Norm Ficklestein never been invited to a show like this, completely blacklisted, Gabor Mate.
[04:49:25] like there are plenty of anti-Zionist Jews who just never get this time of day.
[04:49:30] So even if someone is like a two-stater, the only way to talk about a two-state is
[04:49:37] just by saying, oh, of course I'm in support of a two-state and then move on, right? When you
[04:49:43] actually hear from someone who's like, yeah, a two-state I think is currently not very realistic,
[04:49:49] but like this is what it would look like. And of course a big part of that recognition also
[04:49:54] stems from a big part of that stems from the initial recognition of what the current one state looks like
[04:50:02] and apartheid that has conducted a genocide and a permanent occupation that's very violent.
[04:50:09] All of a sudden, all of a sudden, it kind of breaks this illusion. It destroys the illusion.
[04:50:18] Amazing.
[04:50:19] So is that a litmus test?
[04:50:21] I don't think it's a litmus test.
[04:50:23] I think it's something useful for people to look at and grapple and reckon with.
[04:50:27] We've spent thousands of years as the victims, as a rough, grappling with what it means in
[04:50:33] some ways to be a perpetrator.
[04:50:35] I think it's a useful dialogue for American Jews to have, but I don't think it's a litmus
[04:50:40] test in the presidential race.
[04:50:41] I do think a reset in the U.S.-Israel relationship is.
[04:50:45] Brad Lander, thanks for sticking around.
[04:50:46] Thank you for coming in.
[04:50:47] Well, there is new uncertainty this morning in the high stake Senate race in Maine and
[04:50:51] battled candidate Graham Platner reportedly told staffers he doesn't plan to officially
[04:50:57] withdraw until Monday.
[04:50:59] Now that leaves even less time for state Democratic leaders to move ahead with a new pick while
[04:51:03] voters remain in the dark.
[04:51:05] Caitlin Huey Burns has more.
[04:51:08] The implosion of Graham Platner's Senate campaign left Maine voters in its wake and
[04:51:14] many told us they feel disappointed and uncertain about it.
[04:51:17] what comes next? I wish with Graham Fatner and I don't know how to feel about what's going to happen now.
[04:51:28] I wonder, yeah, he withdrew already. I wonder if like a conversation like that,
[04:51:34] I wonder what that would look like for some of your parents if you're Jewish.
[04:51:41] Just like, that's gotta be at least a look. I mean, that's certainly gonna be more impactful than like
[04:51:47] them hearing what I have to say, right?
[04:51:56] And Christian parents who also love Israel too.
[04:52:07] I suspect it just depends on how far down the rabbit hole one might be.
[04:52:12] because we have seen a bunch of people call him a bad Jew.
[04:52:39] Welshman. Man this guy read the child and gravity is to support him like he's your
[04:52:45] god, you're all pet of vows. There's gotta be a real wild situation, a real wild way
[04:52:53] to exist where you've just decided you had to invent a reason and you came up
[04:52:59] with that as like the invented reason. It's the most insane thing.
[04:53:09] I don't understand how you could just like live in a world where you get mad at your own hallucinated alternative reality.
[04:53:25] We're suspending campaign operations.
[04:53:53] The Oyster farmer and Marine veteran had struck a chord with voters in Maine as a first-time
[04:53:58] politician with a populist appeal.
[04:54:01] I have been willing to die for my country.
[04:54:04] There is nothing that I will not do for the state of Maine.
[04:54:08] Resonating even with some voters who once backed Republican Susan Collins.
[04:54:13] I wanted to see some new faces in our Senate.
[04:54:15] The state Democratic Party has until July 27th to pick a replacement, and there's no shortage
[04:54:21] of candidates.
[04:54:23] The party announced it will hold a nominating convention.
[04:54:26] But first, they'll need Plattner to file paperwork to officially leave the race, something
[04:54:31] the campaign says won't happen until Monday.
[04:54:34] Some former Plattner supporters say they aren't ready to rubber stamp whoever the Democrats
[04:54:39] pick.
[04:54:40] I certainly hope to find somebody, but I don't know who.
[04:54:44] Do you, are you, are you glad that he dropped out?
[04:54:47] I think he had to under the circumstances.
[04:54:49] I think the timing of this whole thing is very questionable.
[04:54:54] Other voters say they'll go for what they know,
[04:54:57] the long-time Republican incumbent.
[04:54:59] This presents a known quantity in this chaotic situation.
[04:55:04] For CBS Mornings, I'm Keegan Lee Burns in Portland, Maine.
[04:55:09] Graham Platner has formally withdrawn
[04:55:11] from the Maine Senate race, kicking off a two-week sprint
[04:55:14] for the state's Democrats to pick a new nominee
[04:55:17] to face off with Republican incumbent Susan Collins.
[04:55:20] The grand platter to Susan Collins return voter is a is an enigma.
[04:55:26] I will never understand it.
[04:55:28] The mind of the American median voter folks, indecipherable.
[04:55:34] You will never understand it.
[04:55:37] Don't try to understand it.
[04:55:38] You will die in the process.
[04:55:40] This guy is my favorite.
[04:55:41] Yeah, the median voter.
[04:55:45] Jackson is not progressive.
[04:55:47] He voted against so many bad things like gay marriage, abortion.
[04:55:52] He did that and now wants to say he's progressive.
[04:55:55] If they put up Troy Jackson, if they put up Shana Bellows, I'm voting for Susan Collins.
[04:56:02] And I hate to say that as an independent, but Troy Jackson and Shana Bellows aren't
[04:56:08] going to be able to do anything in that federal government.
[04:56:11] I know that gentleman says he's an independent, but he's expressing progressive values and
[04:56:17] beliefs there, so respond to him.
[04:56:19] Well, I mean, honestly, you know, he is accurate.
[04:56:23] I voted against those things over 15 years ago.
[04:56:27] Since then, you know, I've found out, I've understood, I mean, I've always been someone
[04:56:32] that believed that healthcare is a human right, and it became clear to me after some time that
[04:56:36] abortion, reproductive rights, access is a human right.
[04:56:40] health care. It's people that deserve to have that. And when it dawned on me, I became a real
[04:56:48] advocate for that. Over the last 10 years, I've had 100% voting rights for Planned Parenthood.
[04:56:54] I've sponsored or co-sponsored some of the most progressive abortion access in the entire country
[04:57:00] and fought vehemently for it. And I make no bones about a bad vote years ago coming out of a rural
[04:57:07] area, a very Catholic area, but you know I mean people are gonna have all kinds of
[04:57:15] thoughts about these things but I mean I have a 20-year record of votes like
[04:57:19] that but a whole bunch of votes that you know people like in the DSA think that
[04:57:24] I'm very progressive. So I mean in the end I'm fighting for people, I'm fighting
[04:57:30] for people across Maine, you can call them whatever votes you want but in the
[04:57:34] And I think there are the things that actually drive people,
[04:57:37] make people's lives better.
[04:57:38] And it's part of the frustration that people in Maine
[04:57:41] have right now of a government that's not working for them.
[04:57:44] And I feel like that too.
[04:57:45] I'm the Senate President for the last six years,
[04:57:48] the second highest ranking official in Maine.
[04:57:50] And I'm frustrated that government does not work
[04:57:53] the way it should.
[04:57:54] And that's what this race is about,
[04:57:56] is making sure that we have a government
[04:57:58] that fights for manors.
[04:58:00] You do have 100% rating from Planned Parenthood
[04:58:03] in New England. Okay, this guy literally is the look like a
[04:58:09] chud think like a wall. I know we said that with Grand
[04:58:12] Platinum too, but he he straight up is. And he used to
[04:58:17] think like a chud too.
[04:58:26] Troy.
[04:58:27] Look, my biggest concern with the deploying the Toyota is what you just watched.
[04:58:39] Like he is a diligent legislator, he has a lot of experience.
[04:58:46] The problem is he's just a little boring.
[04:58:50] Okay, that's it.
[04:58:56] like the clever way to respond to that is, yeah, I made the wrong decision and I learned
[04:59:03] from it. This is about redemption and I, you know, you can look at my track record to see
[04:59:08] that I have more than redeem myself and I want to unseat Susan Collins because she has
[04:59:13] not. She claims to be progressive and yet she failed not just the women of Maine, but women
[04:59:20] all across the country when she ended up voting to appoint Brett Kavanaugh,
[04:59:26] when she ended up voting to appoint Amy Coney Barrett. And these women took away the pivotal
[04:59:34] health care rights in the bottle, the autonomy of women all across the country, right? Like,
[04:59:39] you know, that would have been a good flip.
[04:59:44] Plattner has submitted his paperwork with the Secretary of State's office, so that makes
[04:59:54] his exit official.
[04:59:56] The embattled candidate said several days ago that he intended to quit the race following
[05:00:00] an allegation of sexual assault, which he has denied.
[05:00:03] The Maine's Democratic Party has been scrambling to come up with a process to select a new
[05:00:08] nominee.
[05:00:10] law says that they have until July 27th to do so, and the party has indicated it plans
[05:00:15] to hold a convention with delegates from across the state to come up with that nominee. Several
[05:00:23] candidates have already put themselves forth in contention for that nomination. In the
[05:00:28] the main Senate seat, it's seen as critical.
[05:00:32] Can you explain more in your quote?
[05:00:38] I don't, I do support Trojaxon.
[05:00:41] I just explained the quote.
[05:00:44] What do you mean?
[05:00:50] Figer is an optimist about Trojaxon.
[05:00:52] The DSA endorsed former state Senate president.
[05:00:55] Many progressives are rushing to back the exact opposite of
[05:00:57] Graham Platt, when it comes to charisma, he said,
[05:00:59] the test is going to be whether or not it's the policies
[05:01:00] or if it's the person.
[05:01:03] I mean, that seems like a rougher version
[05:01:05] of what I implied.
[05:01:09] But yeah, I like him, I support him.
[05:01:12] I'm just worried that people are going to not respond
[05:01:16] positively to how no frills,
[05:01:22] how straightforward is,
[05:01:25] of his policy platform is.
[05:01:35] Pulled by Democrats as they try to regain power in Congress in the November elections.
[05:01:42] Overnight, the Department of Homeland Security admitting the man,
[05:01:45] they lose maintenance, your fault again. We coconuts remember.
[05:01:48] And shot and killed by ICE in Houston Tuesday was not the intended target of their investigation.
[05:01:59] In a statement, a DHS official now saying 52-year-old Lorenzo Salgado O'Rajo, a husband
[05:02:04] and father of three, was stopped by ICE because he resembled the target of an investigation
[05:02:09] causing officers to stop his van.
[05:02:12] Salgado O'Rajo was then shot in the abdomen by an ICE officer.
[05:02:16] agency claiming the officer acted in self-defense alleging Salgado O'Rajo wasn't following commands
[05:02:22] and tried to use his vehicle as a weapon although no it as usual that chatter went and bragged about
[05:02:29] being banned here in Roche's chat. Got a moan from a somber mentioning the German
[05:02:35] incident very visitor brothel pokey's poke camps you have to train a police dog if it gets killed
[05:02:40] Transfats are finished with Techie Stream. Now to wait for the real bald one.
[05:02:47] Projection Piker back at it again.
[05:03:10] What's so funny about this is he's openly a fan of someone who a court has called a rapist.
[05:03:31] And he has to hallucinate me as one to hate me.
[05:03:38] Meanwhile, there's an actual fucking rapist that he's a fan of.
[05:03:50] Brother, I'm gonna be honest.
[05:03:52] You got to get your priorities in check.
[05:04:01] The
[05:04:14] Washington Post now reporting migrants who were in the car with Salgado O'Rarjo through
[05:04:18] statements given to their lawyer dispute key parts of ICE's narrative, one writing,
[05:04:23] It is impossible for them to say that they were going to get run over.
[05:04:26] There were no officers in front of or behind the vehicle.
[05:04:30] They were on the sides.
[05:04:32] The shooting sending shockwaves through Houston.
[05:04:34] We don't have the final word.
[05:04:37] Salgado O'Rarjo, an undocumented immigrant living in the US for 35 years,
[05:04:41] was close to obtaining legal immigration status, his son said.
[05:04:45] Undocumented migrants are humans.
[05:04:47] They're demanding an independent investigation.
[05:04:50] I just want all Americans to know that my dad was a hardworking man, a family man, who
[05:04:56] wanted nothing more than to put food on the table and to watch his sons achieve the American
[05:05:01] dream.
[05:05:02] Now, on Mark, rental cars, ramming into a fucking work van of a dude who's been in the
[05:05:11] country and has been working for 35 years.
[05:05:15] This is not.
[05:05:17] This can't go on.
[05:05:18] This is just not normal.
[05:05:20] can't live like this. I don't know what else to say like any kind of defense of the actions of ice here.
[05:05:26] You are you are less than an animal. You have no self preservation skills. You don't understand it.
[05:05:32] This is just straightforward gang violence. Ice is a gang. They're unaccountable.
[05:05:43] They are untrained. They're unbelievably violent and they're unbelievably racist.
[05:05:50] What else can you say?
[05:06:07] The ICE agents involved in this shooting also were not wearing body cameras.
[05:06:11] A DHS spokesperson blaming government shutdowns, the most recent one ending in April for the
[05:06:15] delays in issuing those cameras to officers.
[05:06:18] We're now also learning the county medical examiner's office in Houston has listed
[05:06:22] South Godow O'Raha's death as a homicide, saying the cause of death was a gunshot wound to the torso.
[05:06:28] Michael, there's a lot to bring down there.
[05:06:30] Thank you so much for that.
[05:06:32] CNN obtained video of emergency responders taking center to Mitch McConnell.
[05:06:38] Oh, updates on Mitchy Mitch updates on Mitchy poo.
[05:06:42] not defending this yet they keep on keeping it on the DL and only a kill a couple people
[05:06:52] a month and this will be normalized just like school shootings yeah it's up to us to make
[05:06:56] sure that we don't normalize it does ice have a right to exist fuck no absolutely fucking
[05:07:06] completely not. Did Mitch deny the affair? No, this is day three. This is day three
[05:07:20] of Michipu. Day three of Michipu, refusing to deny the affair. It's a real scandal. I
[05:07:33] know I know there's a lot of I know there's a lot of shippers okay
[05:07:41] Hussich shippers out there Mitch son shippers whatever you want to call it I
[05:07:49] know you guys want clarity you won't get it okay I cracked this little turtle
[05:07:58] shelled too hard. And that's where we're at.
[05:08:06] Yeah, Mitch McConnell has been hospitalized for 26 days as of
[05:08:09] today. 26 days to an ambulance. The neighbor who shot the video
[05:08:16] told CNN the Capitol Police blocked the street and other
[05:08:19] neighbors reported seeing McConnell's face. This was a
[05:08:22] month ago and it comes nearly a month after a spokesperson for
[05:08:26] McConnell first reported that the Senator has been hospitalized, but few other details
[05:08:32] have been released. Let's get to Annie Greer, who helped break this story. So talk to us
[05:08:37] about this video and how it fills in the pieces of the puzzle.
[05:08:42] So John, what I heard from a neighbor. The panel, which I hope, yeah, they're going to
[05:08:48] get to. The panel talk on this is some of CNN's finest work, I will say. Congratulations.
[05:08:58] They always find a way to up the ante. Okay, they always find a way to just like, they
[05:09:08] always find a way, my expectations are low. And these guys always find a way to lower
[05:09:15] Uh, my, my already low expectations, they can not clear any bars on this one.
[05:09:20] It's fantastic.
[05:09:23] Of McConnell's around 8 30 in the morning on June 14th, this neighbor opened
[05:09:27] their door to commotion on the street.
[05:09:29] They saw two ambulances, a fire truck and Capitol police had blocked off the
[05:09:34] entire road.
[05:09:35] So this neighbor stayed on the street to try and figure out what was going on.
[05:09:39] And about half an hour later at around nine o'clock in the morning, this neighbor
[05:09:43] saw a person from McConnell's home being carried on a stretcher into an ambulance and said that
[05:09:49] they saw this person was wrapped in a blanket and that their feet was exposed and that another
[05:09:53] neighbor standing next to them identified McConnell's face and saw that McConnell wasn't wearing an
[05:09:59] oxygen mask. So the first hand witness that I spoke to said that they tried to ask Capitol Police.
[05:10:05] Yeah, he's dead, bro.
[05:10:08] Yeah, he's dead, dead.
[05:10:11] Straight up, he dead as fuck.
[05:10:13] I mean, is what I would say.
[05:10:16] If I also were, if I, too, were trying to hide that we had a relationship and have a relationship, sorry.
[05:10:24] And continue to have a relationship.
[05:10:27] We phone, we do phone sex still.
[05:10:33] what was going on and all they were told was it was a medical emergency. They wouldn't confirm
[05:10:37] who it was for and this is this these new details come as we know very little about
[05:10:43] Senator McConnell's condition why he was brought to the hospital on June 14th and why he remains
[05:10:48] there. Joining us right now is emergency physician, dean of the Yale School of Public Health Dr.
[05:10:52] Megan Ranney. It's great to see you Dr. Ranney. Clearly Mitch McConnell is not your patient so
[05:10:57] having said that the neighbor sees that he's taken out on a stretcher. There's EMS audio
[05:11:03] of emergency responders being called to the home for an unconscious person for cardiac arrest.
[05:11:10] Someone has heard saying CPR in progress. How serious is this case if this comes into you,
[05:11:17] into your hospital?
[05:11:21] It's difficult to reconcile the video that
[05:11:26] I'm going to give it a buck 50 technically the morgue is also in the hospital.
[05:11:29] So they're not lying when they say Mitch McConnell's in the hospital.
[05:11:36] He's just not.
[05:11:37] He's in the morgue.
[05:11:40] Or at most at best.
[05:11:47] If he's not in the fucking morgue, he's definitely on life support and he's a vegetable.
[05:11:53] Okay, we're going to get sincere for a moment and I hate to talk about my boyfriend like this
[05:12:01] but you know that you've just shown with the story that we've heard earlier about
[05:12:07] there being CPR in progress so let's start from the beginning you get a call to EMS about
[05:12:13] someone being unconscious we send an ambulance crew out to assess the causes of unconsciousness
[05:12:20] are myriad ranging from seizures, which I and others have
[05:12:25] speculated that Senator McConnell may be having. Based off of
[05:12:28] those episodes where he freezes on camera, could be that it
[05:12:32] could be that he fell and hit his head. It could be a cardiac
[05:12:35] arrest with your heart stopping. So you get the call, the
[05:12:38] ambulance, the EMS specialists go when they arrive at the house,
[05:12:42] they assess the patient. They say, do they have a pulse? Are
[05:12:46] they breathing? Are they talking? That's the point. It
[05:12:49] sounds like where someone reported that CPR was in progress. Now that CPR could
[05:12:54] have been initiated by the ambulance folks, by the paramedics or medics, or
[05:12:59] it could have been initiated by someone in the house. And for viewers, knowing CPR
[05:13:03] is great, but just because you initiate CPR as an untrained professional doesn't
[05:13:09] mean someone had a heart attack. Okay, that's as much as we've known up until
[05:13:12] now, is that there was CPR in progress and the ambulance did respond. Now you have
[05:13:18] this video. The thing that struck me about the video, Kate, is that nobody seems to be
[05:13:23] in a rush. If there really have been CPR in progress, if Senate-
[05:13:28] Yeah. Because he's dead. The sense of urgency has gone away because he has passed.
[05:13:41] Senator McConnell had truly been in a cardiac arrest. You would expect that they would be
[05:13:47] not taking their time loading the patient into the ambulance.
[05:13:52] So that's the big additional piece of information that I think we got today.
[05:13:56] Beyond that, it is largely speculative and I think we're all wishing Senator McConnell the best.
[05:14:02] Absolutely. And as you're kind of noting, you know,
[05:14:05] Senator McConnell obviously has been in public life for decades
[05:14:08] and he has had a lot of health issues in the past.
[05:14:12] We know that he had polio as a child.
[05:14:15] He's been hospitalized for falling in recent years.
[05:14:18] He has had those episodes of freezing up in public
[05:14:21] that you're noting.
[05:14:22] He spent a week in the hospital this year,
[05:14:24] his office said it was for flu-like symptoms.
[05:14:26] He's 84 years old.
[05:14:28] If you have a patient with a profile like this,
[05:14:30] what questions, concerns do you have at this point?
[05:14:36] Well, to me, one of the biggest questions
[05:14:38] is around the fact that he's been in the hospital
[05:14:40] for three weeks.
[05:14:42] for an average person, for you, for me, for viewers,
[05:14:45] or their parents, a three-week stay in the hospital
[05:14:48] means that you're pretty seriously ill.
[05:14:51] We try to get folks out of the hospital pretty quickly
[05:14:53] these days.
[05:14:54] Now, that may be a little bit different for Senator McConnell,
[05:14:57] given that he is a VIP, but it makes me concerned
[05:15:01] that he did have some time in critical care,
[05:15:04] or has some elements of his stay that
[05:15:05] are requiring continued hospitalization
[05:15:09] rather than home care.
[05:15:11] And then on top of it, I would.
[05:15:15] Why will you ask the question?
[05:15:19] Just ask the question, please.
[05:15:25] Like everyone wants to know the answer to one question.
[05:15:28] Nobody nobody cares about all this other shit.
[05:15:31] Just ask, is there a likelihood that he's dead?
[05:15:34] That's it.
[05:15:35] Why is that so tough?
[05:15:37] Just be like, I know you are a medical professional who's not overseeing this process at all.
[05:15:47] What's the likelihood that he's dead?
[05:15:54] I want to make sure that all of his systems are working as best as they can.
[05:16:06] his mind, his heart, his lungs. As you noted, he did have polio as a child. It's one of
[05:16:12] the reasons why he's been such an active advocate appropriately for childhood vaccination.
[05:16:18] But that can have long term effects as well. And then the biggest thing before I sent him
[05:16:22] home is I want to make sure he's stable. He's not at risk of falling or having another event
[05:16:27] and that he's properly cared for. And I would imagine that the folks in the hospital are
[05:16:32] doing that right now.
[05:16:34] Republican lawmakers on Capitol Hill say they've been kept in the dark.
[05:16:39] We haven't spoken directly up text with him and I've talked to people with his
[05:16:43] office and his staff and you know, I don't know much more than what the public
[05:16:47] knows. I have not had any conversations with him. I understand that some of my
[05:16:53] colleagues have. We wish him a speedy recovery. Yeah, no, no, I have not heard
[05:16:57] from him and I think it's a question that Republicans should be asking. Do you
[05:17:02] know that he's alive? I don't. You know, the distance that I've heard and seen from some
[05:17:07] friends is that he's obviously not doing well, but don't know if he's alive or has passed away.
[05:17:15] There we go. What are we doing?
[05:17:24] That's what I'm talking about.
[05:17:25] I mean, that's it. That's what people want to know. Nobody gives a shit about anything else.
[05:17:33] One of the reasons why people are talking about this, political people are talking about this in a
[05:17:38] kind of ghoulish way, frankly, is that the con- In a ghoulish way, there's only one ghoule in the
[05:17:47] story and he's a dead ghoule. His name is Mitch McConnell. The fuck do you mean they're talking
[05:17:53] in a ghoulish way.
[05:17:54] Turkey's Senate vacancy law, meaning what do you have to do if suddenly a Senate seat
[05:17:59] is open?
[05:18:00] Well, there's a special election, the governor has to call for it, and the seat has to be
[05:18:07] empty until a winner is certified.
[05:18:10] So the idea is that the clock is somehow ticking on if suddenly there's an open seat
[05:18:13] in Kentucky, whether it can be filled.
[05:18:16] What I don't know is why Republicans are kind of leading the charge online talking about
[05:18:21] this.
[05:18:22] mace and a social media post if mcconnell is in as bad a shape as um i think you do know
[05:18:31] and i think that's the reason why you called it ghoulish there's a reason why some republicans
[05:18:37] are talking about this because this would open up an opportunity for thomas massie to run in the
[05:18:42] special election and and would give a four month window to thomas massie to be a uh republican
[05:18:50] senator. That's it. That's the only reason why people are looking at this, right?
[05:18:57] As Biden ever was, or worse, he needs to step aside. This charade can't continue. We can't
[05:19:03] demand of others what we won't demand of ourselves. I think this is all cutting kind of crazy,
[05:19:11] frankly. I can speak a little bit to this personally. When my dad was running for Congress
[05:19:16] in Iowa, Western Iowa in 2020. He died. He died. He was dead. And we, we just, you know,
[05:19:24] put him on a fucking, put him on a gurney, put him on a, put him on a chair and just
[05:19:30] moved him around. Oh my God. Mitch McConnell's wife just fled the China while husband unconscious.
[05:19:39] Mitch McConnell's brain dead.
[05:19:41] Oh my God.
[05:19:47] Benny Johnson, Jesus Christ.
[05:19:51] Bro, if I did this shit, if I did this shit low key,
[05:19:55] if I did this shit, CNN will be talking about
[05:19:57] how unbearable I am.
[05:20:00] How the fuck does the right get away with everything,
[05:20:02] including shitting on other right-wingers?
[05:20:05] Yes, we got to start. We got to do these insane AI thumbos going forward. That's what we got to do. The dog eat dog world out there, man. Jesus Christ. Clearly, this AI thumbo worked. You got half a million a day.
[05:20:24] He was diagnosed with stage four intestinal cancer and we made the decision that since
[05:20:39] it was an ongoing election to come public and disclose everything.
[05:20:44] The reality is is that I think McConnell is doing fine.
[05:20:47] Scott Jennings has backed up that he's completely fine and he's coherent.
[05:20:51] You said we made the decision to be public because there was a pending election that voters were gonna make a decision on
[05:20:59] But you look at what's happening in the Senate right now. They're not doing anything upset dude. That's awesome
[05:21:04] This this is my this is my favorite fucking line of argument. Ah, they're all old. They don't do shit anyway
[05:21:11] dude
[05:21:12] You're not supposed to admit that
[05:21:16] You're a fucking demon
[05:21:18] What is this man? Why? Why are these guys royalty? What the fuck is this shit?
[05:21:24] Aw, these guys don't do anything anyway. Have you seen the Senate?
[05:21:30] Okay, yeah. That's kind of a problem, don't you think?
[05:21:36] That's actually THE problem. Yes, Chatter, I'm moving in with him. I had to send the
[05:21:42] renovators in ahead of time, okay?
[05:21:44] Yes. The floor was ugly. I'm putting in tile.
[05:21:48] I
[05:21:59] Sorry I meant rugs
[05:22:04] I'm putting in a new rug
[05:22:09] Are you wise why I've left yes
[05:22:12] yes
[05:22:13] She couldn't handle the
[05:22:15] the sex that we were having, and she had to escape to China.
[05:22:21] And now, because I'm in the will, I'm selling the home.
[05:22:24] I'm flipping it.
[05:22:36] Upsons, there's not gonna be a save vote act,
[05:22:39] it looks like, they don't need his vote right now.
[05:22:41] He's announced his retirement,
[05:22:43] he's being replaced by most likely,
[05:22:45] Andy Barr in Kentucky would be excited to see,
[05:22:48] but I think this is much to do about nothing.
[05:22:50] I think we should give him the grace
[05:22:52] and give him some privacy.
[05:22:54] He'll come out when he is, when he feels comfortable.
[05:22:57] Dude, what are you talking?
[05:22:58] This is a senator, bro.
[05:23:00] This isn't, yo, dude, dude.
[05:23:03] This isn't like Taylor Swift, okay?
[05:23:07] This is an American senator.
[05:23:09] What do you mean he'll come out when he feels like it?
[05:23:11] It's in the public's interest to know his whereabouts
[05:23:17] at all times.
[05:23:24] Can I ask a question?
[05:23:25] If you're a resident of the state of Kentucky
[05:23:28] and need help getting a passport
[05:23:30] with the State Department, who do you call?
[05:23:32] Law, he's in the hospital?
[05:23:33] No, he's not, he's in the fucking board, he's dead.
[05:23:36] I mean, the fact that they haven't released a statement
[05:23:39] up until now after 26 days of being in the hospital.
[05:23:42] Come on, man.
[05:23:43] They're trying to fucking figure out how to go about this.
[05:23:46] What do you mean, dude?
[05:23:48] You think 84-year-old Mitch McConnell's in the hospital
[05:23:51] for 26 fucking days?
[05:23:52] Even the doctor that they interviewed earlier
[05:23:54] was like, yeah, it's pretty unlikely.
[05:23:58] You call Senator Mitch McConnell's office?
[05:24:01] Oh, please, the Senate staff,
[05:24:03] everyone knows that the Senate staff
[05:24:04] is really where the matter happens.
[05:24:06] I think, oh, no, but I just,
[05:24:09] I hate this shit, bro, like openly, openly flexing. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with white privilege in the colonies. We want
[05:24:21] I can't stand this motherfucker just shut up being like dude, don't worry. It's this is the staffers have been doing the work anyway.
[05:24:29] Look at him. He's a skeleton. Okay. Thanks, man. Hey, um, it kind of feels like you're defending this
[05:24:36] this unjustifiable system, and it's very strange, you should probably be critical of
[05:24:43] this, right?
[05:24:44] Because like that's what the average American, that's how the average American feels.
[05:24:47] We hear this shit and we go, that's disgusting.
[05:24:49] That because there is not a major piece of fighting legislation, fighting legislation,
[05:24:55] there's prior to your Republicans that somehow the residents of the state of Kentucky aren't
[05:24:59] entire to are entitled to know number one, what the health status is of one of the most
[05:25:04] senior senators in the United States and to the fact that there isn't an
[05:25:07] election somehow obviates the senator from one transparency or two doing his
[05:25:12] job trust issue to you because I think during when McConnell was a leader he
[05:25:19] was someone kind of crazy or against HIPAA now yes yeah I don't care yeah yeah
[05:25:28] it's a fucking dead senator I think that that is again in the public
[05:25:34] interest is a joke please oh okay who manipulated the calendar a lot somebody
[05:25:39] who would delay votes for this reason or that reason most famously when it came
[05:25:44] to the Supreme Court Meghan McCain weighed in as well another child of a
[05:25:48] Politico saying I also have a lot of regrets almost a decade since my dad's
[05:25:53] passing my family should have forced him to step down the second he was
[05:25:58] diagnosed which is why I'm now an advocate of age and term limits in
[05:26:03] politics. I also sincerely hope Senator McConnell okay, which struck me there was the word.
[05:26:10] Yes. This is two things and you have the experience of having it be both a political
[05:26:18] matter and a personal matter. Everyone as a personal matter has had to deal with aging
[05:26:23] parents who you have to take their car keys away and have that difficult conversation.
[05:26:29] They have to decide what they're going to do.
[05:26:32] we're talking about a senator
[05:26:34] oh my god we're talking about one of the most powerful people in american
[05:26:38] society right now we are talking about a senator
[05:26:41] all my god i jay argera and talk to see has to change man it is so fucking
[05:26:46] insane holy shit
[05:26:48] uh...
[05:26:50] you know i think it'll go into special facilities etc etc
[05:26:53] when it becomes more than that it's when it's a political matter and not just
[05:26:57] about the election but it
[05:26:59] the funniest part about this is that senator mitch mcconnell is going out the way he lived
[05:27:04] in exactly the way he would want to go out delaying a procedural issue by filibustering
[05:27:14] okay like that's that's straight up that's his life like he's going out on obstruction is that's
[05:27:21] that was his claim to fame
[05:27:22] And he's doing it about transparency and I do take the point that at this point if if if Mitch
[05:27:31] McConnell is well enough to be gabbing to Scott Jennings he should be well enough to call in to
[05:27:37] CNN or to the New York Times or to Fox News or whatever to show that he's okay and the fact
[05:27:44] that he hasn't done that is quite quite frankly leading to these conspiracies if I could because
[05:27:51] again, I think there's a charitable way to read this, especially if you know Mitch McConnell.
[05:27:54] He is a very strong man. He does not like being told what to do, especially by public
[05:27:59] pressure. He works on his own timeframe, and so I think you got to give it to him. Give
[05:28:04] him a few days.
[05:28:05] But let me play for someone you pointed out this week who you could describe very similarly,
[05:28:09] the former Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. When he went to the hospital for his treatment,
[05:28:15] it became quite the scandal for Republicans. And in the end, he came out more or less kind
[05:28:19] of apologize and I want to play for you the lesson that he took away from that moment.
[05:28:25] I don't think it's news that I'm a pretty private guy. I never liked burdening others
[05:28:31] with my problems. It's just not my way. But I've learned from this experience.
[05:28:37] Yet, he was also not 8,700 years old.
[05:28:51] Why are you talking about him like he's alive?
[05:28:53] I mean, I know.
[05:28:55] Taking this kind of job means losing some of the privacy
[05:28:59] that most of us expect.
[05:29:02] The American people have a right to know
[05:29:03] if their leaders are facing health challenges
[05:29:05] that might affect their ability to perform their duties,
[05:29:08] even temporarily.
[05:29:10] Even temporarily.
[05:29:12] Also notice he said the loss of privacy is part of the gig.
[05:29:15] And I just want to put up some images here in Memoriam.
[05:29:19] These are lawmakers who have died
[05:29:21] while they were holding office since 2024.
[05:29:25] And you pointed out many of these things, a lot of keys.
[05:29:29] It's a lot of old people.
[05:29:30] I mean, I think we should all.
[05:29:34] I still ride but slowly so we doesn't go into cardiac arrest yet I lied.
[05:29:50] Also discuss the fact the United States Senate is a gerontocracy is what it is.
[05:29:55] I think the reason why people are discussing is because the Biden thing.
[05:29:59] Yes, like big wake up call where everybody was questioning the Republican.
[05:30:02] We don't know what President Trump actually is suffering from.
[05:30:09] What are his swell...
[05:30:10] We have done segments on the rumors about various health issues.
[05:30:15] Various health issues where Dr. Speculative is swollen ankles, you know, the continued
[05:30:18] bruising on his arms, like on his hands.
[05:30:21] I mean, there are lots of questions about when people get to a certain age, I mean,
[05:30:27] let's be honest.
[05:30:28] he's 80. Mitch McConnell is, how old is Mitch McConnell now?
[05:30:33] He's in his 80s.
[05:30:34] Yeah, he's in his 80s.
[05:30:36] I mean, obviously Biden was also in his 80s.
[05:30:40] I mean, you start to have serious health concerns.
[05:30:43] And my point about this more broadly
[05:30:45] is I think the more general point, which is
[05:30:48] about transparency, what do you owe the voting public about?
[05:30:51] What do you owe?
[05:30:52] What do you owe the voting public about your health?
[05:30:55] And here's the fact I owe all of you. He's 84.
[05:30:58] He's the Norwegian striker turned internet sensation.
[05:31:03] Dude, my mom loves Erling Haaland.
[05:31:10] Video of Ishwaka's wife arriving in China.
[05:31:28] Wow. China's Long March 10B has successfully completed its maiden flight and recovered
[05:31:36] its first stage via a sea-based net. This marks the country's first ever controlled
[05:31:40] rocket recovery. A major leap towards reusable launch capabilities.
[05:31:46] Sweden Elon showing him this if you want to get banned.
[05:31:51] Is Elon seen this?
[05:31:57] Osbara has finally made its way into the Hassanabi household.
[05:32:00] Wait, what?
[05:32:01] For Erling Holland?
[05:32:03] My mom loves him.
[05:32:06] She has said he is cute, like a child.
[05:32:09] And I, when I look at Erling Holland, I see an entirely separate thing.
[05:32:14] I see a monster.
[05:32:16] I see the ancient Viking that is running full speed in the direction of a priest bashing
[05:32:29] its skull with the hard side of the axe.
[05:32:36] I don't see like a cute child.
[05:32:40] Breakout star both on and off the pitch
[05:32:43] Erling Holland leading Norway to its first ever World Cup quarter final
[05:32:48] Millions falling in love not just with his impressive soccer skills, but his playful
[05:32:54] Unapologetic personality from leading the iconic Viking row after a win. She doesn't want to admit. He's hot dude
[05:33:02] There are many things you can say about Erling Holland
[05:33:05] Hot is not one of them
[05:33:07] okay
[05:33:09] There are many things you can say.
[05:33:13] He is objectively whatever is the opposite of hot.
[05:33:17] OK. You can say he's goofy, you can say scary.
[05:33:29] What the fuck, man?
[05:33:30] He's legit smoking hot and I'm straight. Wait, really?
[05:33:34] You can say he's baby girl. I think he is baby girl.
[05:33:39] In to his signature meditation pose every time he scores now. It's his Viking diet
[05:33:47] that's having a moment the six foot four player eats roughly six thousand calories per day
[05:33:53] nearly double with the average active. He kind of looks like if Jinx he was on steroids
[05:33:59] and was six foot five, at least in this photo.
[05:34:07] After he shaved his eyebrows.
[05:34:11] Am I crazy?
[05:34:19] How many do you eat?
[05:34:19] Not six thousand.
[05:34:20] Six thousand is like fucking three days worth of food for me.
[05:34:24] The man needs and more than most pro athletes.
[05:34:28] So, what's on the menu? Whole foods, like steak?
[05:34:33] Oh, I love this one. This one's so funny.
[05:34:36] The way he just smacks him on the shoulder.
[05:34:43] Hi, Len!
[05:34:47] Did you see the Viking Roe drama? Oh, I did, yeah.
[05:34:50] A Norway fan has gone viral for refusing to participate in the Viking Roe after victories because it's factually wrong,
[05:34:55] wrong saying the vikings didn't roll over the Atlantic they sailed first of all i just
[05:35:01] find it he's just autistic bro that's it he is the they found they found the most redditor
[05:35:08] autist in Norway that's it that's literally what's going on here stupid that's that's the
[05:35:16] thing i thought when they came up with it that it was stupid and annoying and i didn't want to do it
[05:35:22] And then. This is a joke, right?
[05:35:27] Like he's doing it from his rowing room.
[05:35:31] Rose got rose in the back.
[05:35:33] Are you fucking kidding me?
[05:35:36] Is that this is a this is a joke.
[05:35:42] Also. Why do so many Norwegians just look like lost between borders?
[05:35:48] This is now like the third Norwegian you had Maddie Glacias. You had the other guy in India and now this guy, they all sound like Canute, but look like the lost between border guy.
[05:36:04] Those are oars, idiot. Okay, you don't row them?
[05:36:16] It copies a lot of what the ISLM were doing and it's actually wrong. They didn't row,
[05:36:24] they sailed over the Atlantic.
[05:36:26] Very good. I'm glad you clarified this for this stupid Americans. The last thing an English
[05:36:39] surgeon in 850 AD sees before taking two acts of the face.
[05:36:43] As someone who according to 23 and me has 90% Anglo Celtic ancestry when I look at Erling
[05:36:54] Holland. I feel like I have epigenetic memories of someone like him putting an axe through
[05:36:58] my skull. Yes.
[05:37:01] Exactly where the Viking road chance shouldn't be allowed at the cup. It's a threat of vials
[05:37:07] against monasteries and strongholds everywhere. I agree. My Anglo friend saw a sign that said
[05:37:14] Holland and panicked that it said Holland. The Anglos are tired. Oh my God.
[05:37:21] Have you seen the girl that looks like Holland?
[05:37:31] I
[05:37:48] Dude i'm not i just i've never seen a guy like him before
[05:37:53] I've never seen a guy like him before
[05:38:01] like this like what is this bro who is like this there ain't nobody else like
[05:38:11] this I don't even understand that's a I this one is a I is this a I is this a
[05:38:28] AI is all of this AI is that AI bro walking around like this
[05:38:58] He's so scary looking. I'm sorry, dude
[05:39:03] Yeah, when I see a guy like this, I instantly, the Ottoman mentality kicks in, Ottoman mindset
[05:39:31] kicks in and I'm like, that's a Janissary. Okay. That's a Janissary through and through.
[05:39:39] A nice homely Balkan boy. Same size would be the perfect Janissary. And so would Erling
[05:39:46] Holland.
[05:40:16] Oh
[05:40:46] Son of Uthred, I will take over Dane Law.
[05:41:07] Please look at Holland's YouTube VLOGS, I beg of you.
[05:41:10] Is he like a huge KSI fan too?
[05:41:35] If not, we'd have to go to the quarter finals and I'll go on a bit of a mess and I'll blow
[05:41:39] down.
[05:41:40] In Rooney, I expect you to go out on a rowing trip.
[05:41:51] Brazil is a football nation which is almost maybe the first football nation you kind of get to know
[05:41:57] because of all the legendary players that played there.
[05:42:00] Just Jersey, the country, the passion.
[05:42:02] Even 2014 when they were in Mara and you know, with all them big players they had.
[05:42:08] And they have, it's just like, it's a bit unrealistic to play against them.
[05:42:11] No matter where you go, you kind of see a Brazilian shirt.
[05:42:14] And yeah, that's why I have so much respect for Brazil as a country,
[05:42:17] but especially as a football nation.
[05:42:19] Yeah, I understand your part.
[05:42:20] Ah, so nice, so nice.
[05:42:23] Ah, beautiful.
[05:42:24] You remember I played against you in 1997?
[05:42:26] Yes, yeah, of course.
[05:42:30] A nightmare, no?
[05:42:34] I thought you were good for him.
[05:42:36] The more partying, the more afterwards it is.
[05:42:38] Yeah.
[05:42:39] We remember how the...
[05:42:41] After a match, not the memories.
[05:42:44] Yeah.
[05:42:47] I mean, Ronald, there is a special player as well.
[05:42:49] We all know El Fenomeno.
[05:42:51] I think Slato said that he is the inspiration to everyone that starts with football,
[05:42:57] because the way he was dribbling, the way he was just enjoying football and everything.
[05:43:01] Good luck.
[05:43:02] Thank you very much.
[05:43:03] We'll see.
[05:43:04] A lot.
[05:43:05] I think. She was like, oh, it's okay. It's okay. Yeah, that's okay. You were scott boy, you think? Yeah, he's amazing. He's so fast, strong, and good Gabrielle, and they know each other.
[05:43:18] Yeah, good battle. Thank you. Obviously, it's a big, big game for, for Norway, you know, mighty Brazil, in Norway, sort of.
[05:43:26] Holland is a Nepo baby dog. He is literally a genetic specimen
[05:43:35] Like
[05:43:38] At that point you can tell he has ancient human traits
[05:43:43] Happy to be where we are
[05:43:46] We win. It's fantastic
[05:43:48] but we lose
[05:43:50] There'll be a good workout for normal. Hey, you know what is this Omega who can't control his pheromones
[05:43:56] these edits are getting out of hand. Alpha who's scent marks him in front of everyone.
[05:44:09] Are they are they fucking what is this they got soccer yowie, bro
[05:44:33] Let's not know stay away from omega verse
[05:44:39] One Giza another Giza another Giza
[05:44:57] He's so scary looking bro, I don't know why I
[05:45:01] Don't know how else things when it went Holland scores make it 1-0 against England look across the pitch
[05:45:06] which sees Jude drop to his knees in tears, so he runs over pulls him into a hug and
[05:45:12] says, I don't want history if you're not standing beside me before kissing him in front of the
[05:45:17] entire stadium.
[05:45:18] of wins.
[05:45:40] They fuck, right?
[05:45:41] Cleated rivalry.
[05:45:46] June is over?
[05:45:47] Yeah, but love is forever, dude
[05:45:55] He got a bit of a Neanderthal vibe to him have you seen what he did to the Israeli team yet the unbelievable
[05:46:02] anti-Semitism a hat trick
[05:46:05] There's nothing more anti-Semitic
[05:46:08] Doesn't he know Israel has a right to win that game
[05:46:11] You know you would like hanging out with Holland? Yeah, I'm sure I would he seems fucking dope
[05:46:20] He seems like a very nice dude a very fun guy to be around but we never won against Norwich. I played twice
[05:46:41] I
[05:46:54] It's funny because maga twitter wants this got to be a white supremacist so bad. Oh, yeah, that's true. I forget that like
[05:47:02] Maga twitter always takes every like white celebrity or white viral thing
[05:47:08] and immediately turn it into like, oh, this guy is actually a huge white supremacist,
[05:47:18] you know.
[05:47:24] He posted the positive flag on his Insta story after he beat Israel.
[05:47:30] All right, yeah, we did some Holland memes.
[05:47:43] Let's watch his diet now.
[05:47:44] I know he eats like a fucking animal.
[05:47:49] He eats crazy style, right?
[05:47:51] And then we're going to do clavicular in Israel, sourdough, eggs, fish, honey, and milk.
[05:47:56] I expected only milk, and we went out with a lot of steak, milk and honey.
[05:48:01] Plus coffee.
[05:48:02] Coffee is a superfood.
[05:48:04] And before home games, his dad's famous hat trick lasagna.
[05:48:09] Make lasagna?
[05:48:10] Hat trick.
[05:48:11] Okay, I have to eat the rest of my life lasagna day before game.
[05:48:13] We don't need to follow his exact menu, but his mindset about nutrition is really where
[05:48:19] it's at.
[05:48:20] What this means is whole foods, not the ultra processed stuff, anchoring all the meals
[05:48:26] with protein, having a well balanced fitness routine.
[05:48:30] The diet even trending on social media.
[05:48:33] But who's in charge of fueling Holland and his teammates on their quest for the cup?
[05:48:39] Meet Aaron Espelan, one of the Norwegian football teams chefs.
[05:48:43] As a chef, it's really your task to just bring the produce that is good and just prepare it with love.
[05:48:52] And so, what the fuck is that? Whale?
[05:48:54] We're with, basically, as it is. It's really simple and not so complex cooking.
[05:49:01] For Halland, the man they call the robot, discipline extends beyond the plate.
[05:49:06] He is so dedicated to do what he has to do to perform best on the pitch.
[05:49:12] He's very strict with his diet and to eat enough.
[05:49:16] I love food. I live to eat food.
[05:49:22] So while I may not be piling my plate with 6,000 calories a day exactly like Holland,
[05:49:28] I think we can all get behind some of his food choices that we have here.
[05:49:32] Salmon, steak, eggs, there's sourdough, there's lots of things here.
[05:49:36] Honey, and if eating like one of the best soccer players in the world earns us even a
[05:49:42] I feel like this type of news coverage is literally from a bygone era, you know what I mean?
[05:49:47] Dude this is terrifying.
[05:50:14] terrifying. That mobile is sprinting at you? That mobile is sprinting at you is a terrifying
[05:50:21] prospect.
[05:50:22] Dude, I want to do this, don't I? I don't.
[05:50:26] Better advice than this one clipped in 10,000 self-help books, dude. Hell yeah, dude. Yeah,
[05:50:31] these are all the fucking Nazis that are trying to take ownership over this like woke ass Norwegian
[05:50:35] dude.
[05:50:36] I feel I'm tired, but then I tell my body I'm not tired, and then I think it's a psychological
[05:50:54] thing that's-
[05:50:55] How is this better than any other fucking workout advice video?
[05:51:00] Like, no, seriously.
[05:51:03] How is this better than a thousand fitness videos?
[05:51:06] that to me, please. Imagine being a monk in Anglia and seeing that specimen come up to
[05:51:12] hill with an axe yeah you're done you're dead it's over
[05:51:18] Telling yourself okay it's okay we keep going
[05:51:22] Tell yourself you're tired you're gonna be tired
[05:51:25] Tell yourself I'm not that tired it's okay
[05:51:28] It's okay it's not that so it's also a really
[05:51:32] psychological thing because our bodies can handle so much more than we think
[05:51:36] Dude wow
[05:51:40] Uh-oh, Hassan, I've been not inspired. No, he's his story. I mean he he is an inspirational figure. He's awesome
[05:51:47] He's really funny. I just don't like when people I hate when these right-wing motherfuckers like ruin everything when they're like, oh, this is
[05:51:56] Like glaze bro, you're glazing. You're fucking glazing. He deserves glaze
[05:52:01] But just like that's like a normal video, you know for the first time
[05:52:04] We're hearing from the former roommate and romantic partner of Tyler Robinson the Utah man accused of killing Mike is on the Fox News watch list
[05:52:11] I interviewed Lance twig said Robinson told him. He wished he hadn't done it. Now. Remember Robinson faces charges including aggravated
[05:52:20] Told you to wear a suit
[05:52:22] Murdered murder and witness tampering Carter Evans was in court for the preliminary hearing Carter. Good morning
[05:52:29] Well, good morning Kelly people in the courtroom were riveted as that video of Lance twigs played
[05:52:34] But Charlie Kirk's widow Erica had her head down riveted is a crazy way to describe a courtroom and a murder
[05:52:40] Courtroom for murder charge
[05:52:49] Most of the time tears in her eyes Tyler Robinson showed no emotion as his former lover testified against him
[05:52:57] My name is Lance Twiggs.
[05:53:00] On Thursday, prosecutors played an interview with Tyler Robinson's former roommate and
[05:53:04] romantic partner describing the moment they first saw each other the day after the shooting
[05:53:09] of Charlie Kirk.
[05:53:11] I just asked him in person what he said was true the night before and he said it was.
[05:53:17] I started crying a little bit and said he wishes he hadn't done it.
[05:53:21] Twiggs told investigators Robinson first texted hours after the murder.
[05:53:25] message, stop what you're doing and look under my keyboard. Twiggs found a handwritten note that
[05:53:31] said, I had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it. In court, Agent
[05:53:36] Brian Davis read the text exchanges. You weren't the one who did it right and Tyler says I am,
[05:53:42] I'm sorry. And Tyler says why did I do it? And Lance says yeah. Tyler says I had enough of his
[05:53:49] hatred, some hate can't be negotiated out. Twiggs received limited immunity in exchange for talking
[05:53:55] with prosecutors in April where they showed surveillance photos.
[05:53:59] That looks like him in terms of the shoes he's wearing, the sunglasses, the last two,
[05:54:05] definitely do look like him. They do look like Tyler Robinson.
[05:54:11] Twig said Robinson had previously only spoken about politics on occasion.
[05:54:15] Usually if he did talk about politics stuff, it was relating to Trump or current like policies.
[05:54:22] I personally have never heard him talk about Charlie Kirk.
[05:54:27] Now, in addition, if there- Wait, why would tweets be accountable?
[05:54:33] Transgender.
[05:54:36] That's it. And the administration wants to literally make this a transantifa story.
[05:54:44] That's it. Literally.
[05:54:52] Read my chat. This is just clickbait because the audience are fascinated by trans people in the news.
[05:54:59] Make sure media is trying to make the partner into something they're not, in addition to outing them to the world and probably their community.
[05:55:04] Yeah, no, I know.
[05:55:06] Straight, it was nasty as fuck. It was nasty as hell.
[05:55:10] What, uh, Fox News was implying yesterday. And I guess, ZBS is also implying the same thing.
[05:55:22] It's a crime.
[05:55:24] It's a crime.
[05:55:26] It's a crime.
[05:55:28] It's a crime.
[05:55:29] It's a crime.
[05:55:30] It's a crime.
[05:55:30] It's a crime.
[05:55:32] It's a crime.
[05:55:33] It's a crime.
[05:55:35] It's a crime.
[05:55:36] It's a crime.
[05:55:37] It's a crime.
[05:55:38] It's a crime.
[05:55:41] They have physical evidence,
[05:55:42] including Robinson's DNA on the
[05:55:44] murder weapon and bullets he
[05:55:46] allegedly engraved before the
[05:55:48] shooting.
[05:55:49] Now, Robinson still has not
[05:55:49] entered a plea, but the
[05:55:50] Evans in Utah. Thank you, Carter. I just watched the Jedeon arrest and body cam footage. Zoinks.
[05:56:00] Oof. Like eating a Burger King meal. That was not good at all. And it's really surprising. When I
[05:56:07] first heard that Jedeon got arrested, didn't it? There's what happened? Wasn't he doing like
[05:56:12] petto hunting shit? Body cam footage of it. I just assumed that it was going to be over something
[05:56:18] something wacky, weird, or maybe something trivial, because Gideon works collaboratively
[05:56:25] with law enforcement from what I've seen, so surely if anyone knew about like lawful
[05:56:31] activity and shit, it would probably be him, so I thought maybe like some kind of misunderstanding
[05:56:36] or you know, something going just tits up out of nowhere, but ultimately it'd be easy
[05:56:41] to see where he was coming from and be on his side about it, but after watching the
[05:56:45] the footage, it's just not the case at all. I like Jedeon. I've said this quite a bit.
[05:56:52] He's a reformed prankster and hallelujah for that because that is extraordinarily rare.
[05:56:58] Typically when someone experiences success like Jedeon who blew up online because of
[05:57:03] pranks, they stick with that forever. But in Jedeon's case, at the height of his popularity,
[05:57:09] he decided to walk the path of God.
[05:57:11] What is this?
[05:57:12] Twigs is accountable for not reporting Tyler.
[05:57:14] It's illegal.
[05:57:15] Sorry, folks.
[05:57:16] I'm sorry, but Tyler admitted the murder to Lance and Lance didn't turn him in.
[05:57:19] That's criminal.
[05:57:28] I don't think that's the case.
[05:57:32] I mean the question is like how are you supposed to how is this person supposed to know that's
[05:57:49] number one and number two didn't the didn't twig also twigs also reported to the police
[05:57:59] Freaks is getting immunity from destruction of evidence after burning the confession note partially
[05:58:04] Yeah, dude, chat up pretending like people wouldn't message that fuck I messaged my sister
[05:58:30] I did it and I clearly didn't make comedy legal again. Yeah, now we're all oh
[05:58:34] Thank you, Laurie Panda. Now you just made us all criminally liable all 26,000 of us are now criminally liable because you admitted to guilt
[05:58:44] And we obviously have a duty to report Wow
[05:58:49] Thanks
[05:59:00] All of us, we're going to jail.
[05:59:12] He found his faith again and over time decided to make a drastic change and stopped doing
[05:59:17] that content, which I think is extremely admirable and something that you just do not see happen.
[05:59:24] It doesn't happen, period.
[05:59:26] And now these days, his content focuses on having predators arrested.
[05:59:31] So he's worked to catch a lot of really, really evil bad people.
[05:59:36] And the vigilante predator catching community is something that's blown up online over the
[05:59:42] years, obviously.
[05:59:43] And in a lot of cases, it's handled extremely poorly, where the predators don't get arrested.
[05:59:49] They instead just get milked, the content creator latches on to their udders and starts
[05:59:55] up in training their balls of all the piss possible so they can monetize the
[06:00:00] shit out of it at the wazoo online without any care for doing it properly
[06:00:04] and getting them arrested so they continue to still be a danger to children
[06:00:08] around them in judy on case i really felt like well yes he is clearly making a
[06:00:14] lot of money off doing this he is also handling it in a way where these
[06:00:18] predators do get arrested so i know a lot of people criticize like the reason
[06:00:23] behind it, like are they actually doing it for justice and to try and protect anyone,
[06:00:28] or is it just for their own financial self-gain, which is a perspective I can totally understand.
[06:00:33] That is a very valid thing to be bringing up.
[06:00:36] I would argue though that the good outweighs the bad when it's handled properly and they
[06:00:41] actually get arrested.
[06:00:43] So in Jadion's case, I would say that even if the motive has been money, which I'm not
[06:00:49] I'm entirely sure if that's why he's doing it.
[06:00:51] I do get a sense that he genuinely cares.
[06:01:06] I don't know what happened here.
[06:01:07] I don't, I don't, I'm skipping this.
[06:01:11] I don't really care that much.
[06:01:13] Let's get to where we left off in the Cuba story.
[06:01:19] I'm sorry guys. I don't know if you guys like really cared about the duty on situation. I
[06:01:31] don't know. Nope. Okay.
[06:01:40] Our boats kind of suck right like we either had to salvage like an old shit boat or pay
[06:01:45] of business an exorbitant amount of money to, you know, make up for the fact that, you know,
[06:01:49] the company will practically cease to exist after they do business with us.
[06:01:52] And we got a taste of that bureaucratic issue while we were fixing up these ships.
[06:01:55] And for the record, this is the first 30 minutes was just like,
[06:02:01] boy, boy, who's about to go to Cuba, basically, literally and figuratively shitting his pants.
[06:02:08] And, and, you know, flying to Canada, then to fly to Mexico so they can get on a boat.
[06:02:12] And then he trespassed and said to the cops I'm a millionaire. That's it
[06:02:19] Okay, shit that we were meant to be on never arrived
[06:02:22] It turns out all this pressure from the US and their sanctions meant that our boat was being held up all the way over here in
[06:02:27] Progressive 300 kilometers in the wrong direction
[06:02:30] So Dan and I had to get a last-minute bus across Yucatan and gear up for a much much longer sea voyage
[06:02:35] If we're actually gonna be allowed to set sail at all
[06:02:38] Which is a pretty annoying situation to be in but it was only exacerbated by the fact that the Mexican bus company chose the worst possible movies to play.
[06:02:45] There's so many movies in the world.
[06:02:47] There's a lot of the Mexican bus that's played with one of everyone dying, you'd see.
[06:02:56] Also, these boats are much better than ours.
[06:02:58] And if that wasn't spooky enough, we got another call from Alex to scare us even more.
[06:03:03] This morning, my truck was just saying, yeah, I can take it.
[06:03:06] I do believe I'll be having the honor of making Cuba.
[06:03:10] I think I can do anything I want with it.
[06:03:12] You want to know the truth.
[06:03:13] A very, uh, weakened nation.
[06:03:16] I fucking hate it.
[06:03:19] It actually changes the way I look at it now
[06:03:21] because I'm just giving everything I read.
[06:03:23] There's a crack out of it.
[06:03:24] Like, hearing just like everyone's opinions on this thing
[06:03:27] is so upsetting and it's like, just shut up.
[06:03:29] Just don't talk about it.
[06:03:31] Just leave me alone.
[06:03:32] But we finally arrived to Progresso Harbour
[06:03:35] it was time to see our boat.
[06:03:36] Not seeing our boat, I've heard some horrible things about it.
[06:03:40] I haven't seen it.
[06:03:42] That's a best guess scenario.
[06:03:43] I don't know much, I think I don't even know what a good boat looks like.
[06:03:46] What are you looking for here?
[06:03:48] I want to see a local walk faster than a boat.
[06:03:52] But we finally arrived to progress Ohaba and it was time to see our boat.
[06:04:05] The other problem is no one from the flotilla was here yet so so where does a couple of
[06:04:08] gringos in a fishing town try to work out which boat is ours? I'm really hoping it's that luxury
[06:04:14] ultimately the American flag on it. Yeah look at that thing, huh? All I could really tell was that
[06:04:20] these were definitely 100% fishing boats. Oh yeah, that's a pretty boat.
[06:04:26] They said blue and white, which is...
[06:04:31] That could be one of them.
[06:04:32] Oh, fuck, that one wouldn't?
[06:04:34] Yeah.
[06:04:35] We got the one wooden one.
[06:04:37] After a little while, the other activists showed up and we were about to get our first glimpse
[06:04:41] of the boat.
[06:04:42] But they told me it was the biggest one and you can see it there just sticking out of
[06:04:45] the top.
[06:04:46] Big is good, I think.
[06:04:47] Big of the boat, better of it.
[06:04:48] Yeah, right.
[06:04:49] Big of the Titanic.
[06:04:50] You know, big.
[06:04:51] What are you going to get to it?
[06:04:52] You've got to take it all over to our boat.
[06:04:55] I didn't know he traveled with Alex. Yeah, Alex got whole feet. He got like actually scared and he didn't want to do it
[06:05:14] Which makes sense especially considering the dangers of going on such a journey to begin with
[06:05:21] There are numerous dangers for
[06:05:25] I really like the smell of the paint, it's really overpowering the smell of the fish.
[06:05:32] But like the fresh coat of paint on a fishing boat, you don't know what the actual offensive
[06:05:38] smell is, you know, it's good for you.
[06:05:42] The aid hadn't arrived yet, so we were getting busy cleaning up and washing the boat, and
[06:05:46] I thought I was doing a pretty good job in making myself useful, but I'd barely been
[06:05:50] on the boat for 15 minutes, and I managed to secure my position as the most useless crew
[06:05:55] crew member. Now pay attention to this rusty metal shaft that goes down two meters into
[06:05:58] the engine room. Even though I'm filming it right now, in about three minutes, I'm about
[06:06:02] to get all about it and walk into the boat with my head held high and just plummet straight
[06:06:06] down that hole.
[06:06:07] I heard the sound that everybody yell out is that definitely a lexer that's falling
[06:06:11] down the hole.
[06:06:12] What happened Alexa?
[06:06:13] I walked straight through the hole.
[06:06:14] You're going to watch out for that.
[06:06:15] I'm not like you.
[06:06:16] I'm going straight through the hole.
[06:06:18] You're going to watch out for that.
[06:06:20] Oh man.
[06:06:22] You give me careful interest though.
[06:06:24] Did we get really hurt doing that?
[06:06:26] What? Yeah.
[06:06:28] Oh man.
[06:06:30] Oh!
[06:06:32] Like split your head open. Yeah.
[06:06:34] That's crazy.
[06:06:36] While we're in this fishing village watching all these fishermen
[06:06:38] trying to help us reverse park our fishing boat,
[06:06:40] something dawned on us.
[06:06:42] I've been shitting myself for a week about
[06:06:44] about the U.S. bombing all those fishing boats. I don't realize we're like exactly on a fishing
[06:06:50] boat. Like this is the worst kind of boat. This is where the tuna go. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little fish hatch.
[06:06:57] Shut the fuck up. Hold on. Sorry. Breaking news. Scoop o'clock.
[06:07:01] From MSNOW on the FBI beat on the Cache Patel beat. FBI director cast Summon to the White
[06:07:08] House by fresher to Trump advisors today. He had to cancel his jet trip to see his girl from
[06:07:12] from Played at Country Music Festival in Chicago from the tarmac. Oh boy. Oh boy. Uh-oh. Come
[06:07:25] back to Valhalla, brother. And by Valhalla, I mean podcasting. It's time. It's time to
[06:07:35] get back to podcasting. You know it to be true. You know this is the right thing to
[06:07:40] do.
[06:07:42] Hi, Yvanya. Hi, Yvonne.
[06:07:53] What I also didn't take into account is that the fishermen here all around us live with
[06:07:56] my brother is knocking on the door like he's the goddamn police. Okay.
[06:08:01] constant fear of getting bombed every time they set sail to do their jobs.
[06:08:31] There's actually horrifying thinking that these people risk getting blown up just for
[06:08:50] doing their jobs and you know, I felt awful.
[06:08:52] Until the fishermen started flexing on us about, like, hammering.
[06:08:55] Hasan, if it were still Ottoman times and your dad was Sultan, would you take out Marat
[06:08:58] in a heartbeat?
[06:08:59] Not even a question.
[06:09:00] later his boat was in our boat and then I don't know I felt kind of neutral about it after that.
[06:09:04] Unfortunately, we had to end our tour of this guy's much more comfortable and sturdier boat
[06:09:30] because our A-trucks started coming in and it was time to somehow get 30 tons of food and medicine onto this boat.
[06:09:42] Now we didn't just have three big trucks but also a bunch of like nice everyday people heard what was going on
[06:09:47] and drove up and brought their own donation. It was really beautiful.
[06:09:50] Yeah it was a lot of work but the energy was great.
[06:09:52] Everyone was singing the whole time so even when you're on your 50th sack of beans and you know it rips apart
[06:09:57] and you still beans everywhere you need to like tape it up and fix it you still feel great
[06:10:06] it had been hours and hours of hot work and i was so excited to realize how much 30 tons
[06:10:10] actually is especially when you're down in the hull learning an endless stream of sacks and
[06:10:15] boxes it's really warm down there yeah we're down below yeah this is a big smell of diesel yeah
[06:10:23] Okay, you wish to do the vote. Fuck no. Fuck no, dude.
[06:10:33] So, folks, sources tell MSNOW embattled FBI Director Cash Patel, canceling a trip to see his girlfriend in Chicago this weekend after top administration officials frustrated with Patel summoned him to the White House.
[06:10:46] MSNOW Senior Investigative Correspondent Carol Linnick will join us now. Carol, what else are your sources telling you?
[06:10:51] Can we just, you know, Luke, Luke, Luke is always noting that we should highlight a reporting
[06:10:58] and to be very clear, the reporting from our Carolinian and kindlainian says, um, exclusive
[06:11:05] exclusive.
[06:11:06] Yeah.
[06:11:07] The second misstep that people said was that extensive reports by MSNOW and other news
[06:11:11] outlets about taxpayers footing the bill for Patel's globetrotting ultimately spurred
[06:11:16] formal questions from Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, the critical ally of President
[06:11:20] dude the fucking boat is sinking okay that's it and the rest are trying to
[06:11:29] escape
[06:11:32] oh I'm on the mulligate yeah all all all all all all
[06:11:41] hey it's on I like your tie day thanks to my dad's
[06:11:46] We just kept going right loading bicycles and solar panels and everything that would fit on this boat
[06:12:00] it got to 3 a.m. and it looked like we were maybe getting close to finishing until the Mexican Navy
[06:12:06] heard what was going on and they made us stop so they could check through all the things we were
[06:12:09] loading to make sure if he was up to code which led to hours of negotiations right well when
[06:12:14] When they clocked that we had filled this little boat with 30 tons of aid and there
[06:12:18] were only 10 beds, they insisted that we only had capacity for 10 people, and that more
[06:12:22] than half of us wouldn't be able to make the trip, which is a rough thing to hear after
[06:12:25] weeks of preparation, but eventually they caved and let us go.
[06:12:29] I mean, until the sun came up the next morning and they returned to address even more regulatory
[06:12:33] issues and safety concerns.
[06:12:35] But at least there's one major safety concern that we don't need to worry about because
[06:12:39] we addressed it within the first 15 minutes of seeing the boat.
[06:12:42] They wanted that white board around it to be safe.
[06:12:46] I'm integral to the ship's safety.
[06:12:47] If it wasn't for me, they wouldn't have depended that thing there.
[06:12:50] They'd be able to...
[06:12:51] Yeah.
[06:12:52] I'd just go out, walk through places, get hurt, and then we know what the dangerous things are.
[06:12:58] But it was all squared away now, and we had officially gotten our passport stamped by the customs officer.
[06:13:02] So, this was it.
[06:13:04] Alright, there's no turning back now, and I am terrified.
[06:13:07] That's it.
[06:13:08] There you go.
[06:13:09] Well, if we don't go, then I'm gonna be illegal in Mexico.
[06:13:12] He learns like you about yourself all the time.
[06:13:14] What are you learning?
[06:13:15] I just realized that when I'm actually scared, I need a poo.
[06:13:18] Oh, you're like an octopus.
[06:13:20] Yeah, I just...
[06:13:22] I don't understand.
[06:13:23] I thought it was like a turn of praise, like shitting myself.
[06:13:26] Oh, no.
[06:13:27] You can't stop pooping.
[06:13:28] You need to journey your self-discovery.
[06:13:30] I don't want to know that.
[06:13:32] It's so inconvenient.
[06:13:33] No matter if I have to do something important in the future.
[06:13:35] Yeah.
[06:13:36] I would have to poo myself.
[06:13:38] Yeah, no, you can prepare for the scenario.
[06:13:40] I'm about to have a baby. I've got a shit.
[06:13:44] You know, I go to my parents funeral.
[06:13:48] I'm shitting, I'm not there.
[06:13:50] How bad is that? What am I going to do?
[06:13:52] I'm just going to be proofing the entire time.
[06:13:54] Better than the devil window, okay?
[06:14:01] I've never had an anxiety shit in my life.
[06:14:10] Here are the food slash water who could tell this point. No, dude. He's afraid of getting
[06:14:15] the lasered out of existence by an American naval asset.
[06:14:22] But yeah, that's what he's afraid of. He made it very clear because at this point, the Trump
[06:14:27] administration is just straight up blowing up boats in the Caribbean nonstop and they
[06:14:32] still haven't really, they haven't really stopped doing it, but they were certainly
[06:14:35] doing it at its peak back then. So from his perspective, he's like, what if we're next?
[06:14:46] Well, there you go. I'm stuck on the boat now and whatever happens happens. So I guess now is a
[06:14:50] good time to find out what the actual chances are. I'll get blown up out here. Now you might think
[06:14:55] the US is blowing up narco traffickers in the Caribbean, or you might think they're just killing
[06:14:58] random fishermen. And that depends a lot on what kind of media you consume. Now, if you're watching
[06:15:03] this from a boat in the Caribbean and you want to work out if a missile is heading your way,
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[06:16:25] Okay now back to the video. Everyone was so excited to find the set sail and then for
[06:16:30] some reason as soon as the boat left I wasn't that scared anymore like it's
[06:16:34] kind of like the possibility of going home kept me in a state of panic and
[06:16:37] now that I knew I had no choice my mind just tried to shut off all the you know
[06:16:41] unhelpful negative stuff. I was pooping my pants out of fear like half an hour ago
[06:16:46] And now I feel like I've never food before in my life.
[06:16:50] It's perfect.
[06:16:52] I feel really, really good.
[06:16:54] Slightly confident.
[06:16:55] Yeah, yeah, I reckon.
[06:16:57] I'm not the kind of person that dies.
[06:16:59] I've never.
[06:17:00] I've never before.
[06:17:02] What do you reckon?
[06:17:03] Stateline life for you?
[06:17:05] For now, in the Harbour.
[06:17:07] The time it's a selling move done.
[06:17:09] Stop coming.
[06:17:10] I reckon I could do this for my life.
[06:17:12] Now, I knew we had a bunch of activists and journalists on board from around the world,
[06:17:15] But I felt...
[06:17:19] Stop coming Chad, stop coming.
[06:17:21] Do not come.
[06:17:23] Do not come.
[06:17:24] I'm gonna come.
[06:17:27] I'm a bit out of place seeing the caliber of journalism on this code.
[06:17:30] I should have wanted to see it.
[06:17:31] Yeah, you'd have to.
[06:17:32] You'd be much more like you.
[06:17:33] That's fucking awesome.
[06:17:35] Did you get to wear it the whole time?
[06:17:37] But as we left the harbor, it got harder and harder to hold the camera straight.
[06:17:40] And eventually it got hard to just stand straight.
[06:17:43] And I realize now that I'm editing it,
[06:17:44] It's surprisingly hard to capture how unstable the boat was on camera because you know the cameraman is essentially being a human gimbal
[06:17:52] Here's an example if you do this to a chicken notice how its head always stays upright
[06:17:56] That was awesome. We were filming right you're watching this video through the chickens head and everything looks much much better from the perspective of the
[06:18:03] chick
[06:18:05] No, she likes yeah
[06:18:07] Are we gonna get used to it? I don't know
[06:18:09] No, no, I don't know.
[06:18:11] I think I almost got lost.
[06:18:13] Finally, this is the easy bit.
[06:18:15] No.
[06:18:15] Yeah, yeah, I think it's way bigger to get stuck.
[06:18:18] Oh, Lord.
[06:18:19] At this point, I realized there was something I need to do
[06:18:21] that I should have done while the boat was stationary.
[06:18:23] You want to put this on top of the boat?
[06:18:26] You better follow up.
[06:18:27] I can barely walk down here.
[06:18:30] There we go.
[06:18:31] Uh-oh.
[06:18:32] I was pretty scared of flying overboard
[06:18:34] when I went to set up this satellite on proof.
[06:18:36] But now that I'm editing the video,
[06:18:37] I'm actually much more scared about the fact that my dick was hanging out of my pants the entire time.
[06:18:42] I'm going through the footage is so bad because there's just like so many clips.
[06:18:46] There's so many clips of just my balls on the screen and before we get started we've got all our luggage.
[06:18:51] We ratcheted it up like down in the hull so it wouldn't fly around everywhere but that meant that
[06:18:55] all I could really wear was the what I had on you know and it was it was really stupid.
[06:19:00] So if anyone on the flow still was watching this I'm so sorry you had to stare at my balls for like
[06:19:05] entire week like I actually had no idea that that's crazy of course dude of course the motherfucker
[06:19:12] did not have any briefs on and just straight up was given full scrote to everyone that's trying
[06:19:21] to do a humanitarian aid mission and i don't know yeah longest shorts in australia by the way i mean
[06:19:27] straight up that is the longest shorts i've ever seen him wear honestly i mean say sick and worry
[06:19:30] about getting bombed is bad enough without having to stare at my balls all week so I'm really sorry
[06:19:35] but um but back to the satellite I got up on the roof and the wakes were pretty nuts like I tried
[06:19:40] to keep my body you know close to the ground but the ground wasn't particularly stable either
[06:19:44] Bug and Tradyshorts
[06:20:14] If you're not watching this, you mean to get it worked.
[06:20:18] Haas Tasty, bet they stank good as hell, bro. You are.
[06:20:22] You need Allah right now. You need a copy of the Qur'an. You need to read the Qur'an.
[06:20:29] Wow, that is crazy.
[06:20:33] That is crazy.
[06:20:34] But I had no choice, right? You slowly get used to the movement of the boat.
[06:20:38] Nasty little perv.
[06:20:39] We set the internet up at no time. And now I can get back to work backing up our footage.
[06:20:43] Now the next challenge of the day, which is actually quite the length to me being scared
[06:21:12] on the roof is needing to use this thing.
[06:21:15] Now, since the boat is constantly rocking back and forth,
[06:21:17] you need to secure the door
[06:21:18] while you're hovering over this seatless toilet.
[06:21:21] And if you're a socially minded person,
[06:21:23] you're probably gonna want to flush when you're done.
[06:21:24] So you have to get this bucket
[06:21:25] and lower it over the side of the boat
[06:21:27] and fill it up with seawater before you even go in.
[06:21:29] Now, I use this toilet exactly once.
[06:21:32] Like only on the first day,
[06:21:33] it was actually impossible to stay still, right?
[06:21:35] You're squatting over this thing,
[06:21:36] shaking back and forth, you're shitting everywhere.
[06:21:38] And it took me like 20 minutes
[06:21:40] to just clean up the mess that I made.
[06:21:41] And at that point, I made a vow that I just wouldn't poo ever again, and I'd just go mind of a matter and just like hold it in for the next week.
[06:21:48] And it's not even about the sheer difficulty of like pooping.
[06:21:51] It's also the fact that you're just in this like stinky, confined plywood box and...
[06:21:55] Yeah. To answer Chadder's question one more time...
[06:22:02] I'm glad that I flew in as opposed to doing this.
[06:22:06] Just makes you seasick immediately.
[06:22:08] So much of this humanitarian mission documentary is just shitting. Come on, man. Of course it's
[06:22:14] boyboy. Of course. It's like all of it. I suspect that when he arrives at Cuba, there's going to
[06:22:21] be a lot more shitting, perhaps maybe even some puking, but mostly a lot of shitting.
[06:22:28] He's going to talk about how his shit changed dramatically when he started, uh, you know,
[06:22:32] eating the Cuban food. Um, you know, feeling contemplated is way better than that. Um,
[06:22:37] but it also became increasingly difficult to be inside the boat at all.
[06:22:40] Because it turns out the Alexovlovich memorial shaft was left constantly open to stop the engine
[06:22:45] room from overheating, which meant the kitchen and the bunk beds were just dense with this
[06:22:49] noxious diesel fuel. So when the sun started going down, most people tried to find some space
[06:22:54] to sleep on the floor outside, which was harder than we originally thought because we loaded
[06:22:58] multiple pallets of solar panels on the deck. So it wasn't a lot of space to sleep in. If you're
[06:23:03] lucky you'd get a hold of one of the few gym mats that were lying around and you
[06:23:06] know find a spare spot or you'd make really good friends with someone who
[06:23:10] managed to secure a spot themselves. Now it got surprisingly cold at night on the
[06:23:14] high seas which is something I didn't know about and I didn't really plan for
[06:23:18] since you know all my luggage was in the hull so I was just stuck in short shorts
[06:23:22] and apparently with my dick hanging out so I was very cold. Now there was obviously a
[06:23:26] lot of water lapping up onto the deck and any smart person would have quickly
[06:23:30] claimed you know the few dry spots on the ground but I'm an idiot and instead I focused
[06:23:34] on doing this.
[06:23:35] At this point it was getting really cold and all the good sleeping spots had been taken
[06:23:47] but I managed to get creative and realised I could sleep on the edge of this wooden palette
[06:23:51] if I just kind of squeezed myself under the ropes that were holding the stack of solar
[06:23:54] panels in place.
[06:23:55] And after a night of sliding back and forth and like constantly waking up to my head
[06:23:59] hitting the edge of the boat. You know, the sun was shining and it was our turn to cook for everyone
[06:24:04] and I love cooking. Honestly, I felt pretty great for a couple of minutes.
[06:24:16] It turns out what I was tasting in that moment was um, was stomach bile and I completely emptied
[06:24:21] my inside. Now, it had been about 24 hours on the boat at this point and I somehow convinced myself
[06:24:26] that I had some kind of like genetic immunity to sea sickness, but I mean obviously I was wrong.
[06:24:33] Either that or like the stress of the trip had cultivated some kind of reverse bulimia where I
[06:24:37] had to vomit everything out before I could eat a meal. So hungry, I've wanted every meal.
[06:24:43] Just in time, man. But I couldn't keep any food down. Once the sea sickness set in, it was actually
[06:24:49] horrible. Like it was so bad. It felt like it felt like you were hungover and like super dizzy,
[06:24:54] But you're also forced to be on like this 600 kilometer long roller coaster
[06:24:57] And it's not like one of those cool roller coasters where you get to have fun and kiss
[06:25:00] It's like a roller coaster where you also have to do chores the whole time
[06:25:03] Like even just getting a cup of water is so hard like you have to it involves like tightrope walking and like washing dishes and squats
[06:25:10] It was it was actually fucked like I was just counting down the 72 hours until we landed just praying it would all stop
[06:25:16] And I guess my wish kind of came true because um it was that moment that the engine died
[06:25:21] but it turns out it was probably a faulty alternator.
[06:25:24] So as everyone was scrambling for solutions,
[06:25:26] like some people were trying to jerry rig
[06:25:28] one of the solar batteries that we were taking to Cuba
[06:25:30] while other people tried to set up
[06:25:31] an old generator to power the battery.
[06:25:33] And I was trying to address the issue
[06:25:34] by just continuously vomiting over the edge of the boat,
[06:25:37] but none of that fixed the alternator.
[06:25:38] So we were all out of ideas.
[06:25:40] We were just stuck there, you know,
[06:25:41] just floating aimlessly in the middle of the ocean for hours
[06:25:44] and not getting any closer to Cuba.
[06:25:46] But it was kind of nice.
[06:25:48] I mean, without the deafening noise of the engine,
[06:25:50] It was a little bit easier to just lie perfectly still and ignore the sea sickness.
[06:25:55] You know, I kind of feel like I reached a level of zen in that moment
[06:25:58] because I didn't realize at all that we were about to be bordered by the military.
[06:26:03] I woke up, tried to work out what was happening, but everyone I talked to was confused.
[06:26:06] And I went to my laptop and realized that my very special strategy
[06:26:09] of uploading everything online was it was a complete failure.
[06:26:13] I had like half a terabyte of footage and literally none of it was uploaded.
[06:26:17] I should have guessed by the fact that it took about an hour to just like check the news every day
[06:26:21] But yeah, my my footage wasn't backed up anywhere and obviously you are watching the footage right now
[06:26:26] So I guess I managed to save it somehow, but in the moment. I thought it was game over
[06:26:30] So for the sake of immersion, I need you to pretend that you're just you're not watching this video right now
[06:26:34] You're just you're thinking about this happening
[06:26:40] What do you reckon it looked friendly I
[06:26:43] Think it's smiling. I ran Sam was happening
[06:26:45] He's like a shock, he came from that side, now he's coming around there and we're gonna turn around this way, well, this is definitely not the way we get hungry and take the mercy.
[06:26:56] Thankfully, it was a false alarm.
[06:26:59] Wait.
[06:27:02] You think any of the Q's watches and threw away the bees and stuff Pooh Boy brought?
[06:27:10] They're like, yuck, Pooh Boy brought this.
[06:27:13] It turns out the captain had sent out a distress signal when the motor broke and since we were in Mexican waters
[06:27:18] A Mexican Navy ship came by to help us out and after an hour or so the engine was back on
[06:27:26] Now this would have been a relief because it meant we were back on tracks arriving Cuba in three days
[06:27:31] But I had a chat with one of the Mexican Navy guys and he said something completely different
[06:27:43] alternator so it might be three days but it also might be five and also it might be even longer
[06:27:50] depending on there's something really funny about this because like a plane ride would have would
[06:27:56] have sufficed because you can put a lot more cargo on a plane how many times we break down and
[06:28:06] whether we can fix the problem at all and the entire time i'll either be vomiting or worrying
[06:28:11] about dying or going to jail like I kind of felt like I was in hell.
[06:28:14] So the day before Interception King, the Volta was on,
[06:28:18] Monsignor Motilla broke four times.
[06:28:20] What's wrong?
[06:28:21] Four times ancient papers.
[06:28:23] And what they did stopped it would be a noise like,
[06:28:25] BEEE!
[06:28:26] You want to play it?
[06:28:27] I mean, this is, I don't know, I don't know the legis...
[06:28:29] I guess it's like, spread this is probably much cheaper
[06:28:32] than a plane, let's be real.
[06:28:35] That's amazing.
[06:28:37] So this is a BV.
[06:28:38] It's not easy, but it's something like you kind of get used to.
[06:28:41] And if you want the permission to keep on moving, you just gotta take a light move and work with it.
[06:28:47] They can work again.
[06:28:48] And why are all the ships stuck in the straight instead of flying? Really?
[06:28:52] You just compared, like, a ton of cargo to, like, millions of barrels of oil.
[06:29:01] That's what you can- that's- that's what you're- this is a dinghy, dude.
[06:29:05] Like 30 tons of cargo.
[06:29:12] Well look, whatever I've been doing for the whole trip, obviously, she wasn't working.
[06:29:23] So I thought, you know, I might try this like, weird new South American thing called being
[06:29:28] happy.
[06:29:29] Oh
[06:29:59] I gotta tell you man, this new strategy was working out surprisingly well until night
[06:30:04] time because it was my turn on the roster to stay up and stand guard as the night watchman.
[06:30:09] You see, on the guards at Flotilla, they'd get attacked by drones at night, dropping bombs,
[06:30:13] starting fires, or even spraying weird like harsh chemicals.
[06:30:17] It was up to me to wake everyone up if we were being attacked.
[06:30:19] But here's the problem, right?
[06:30:21] You look at this light in the sky and you tell me whether that's a star or a passenger
[06:30:25] plane or a drone about to bomb us.
[06:30:27] Like, the sky is full of these things and there's no decision that I can make here that isn't incredibly embarrassing, right?
[06:30:33] Either I'm the idiot who woke everyone up because he saw a star,
[06:30:36] or I'm the idiot who didn't warn everyone that we were about to get bombed.
[06:30:39] It was kind of shit either way, but I guess maybe it didn't matter.
[06:30:42] Like, I realize that if I do get hit by a drone strike, I won't even know what happens.
[06:30:47] You know, I'll just be cool.
[06:30:48] It kind of made me wonder if any of the fishermen over the past year have been in this exact same spot thinking the exact same thing,
[06:30:54] like, thinking they might be seconds away from being hit.
[06:30:56] You know, they're thinking about their family and all the things they've done in their life and just, you know, praying that God will accept them into the crystal clear waters and sunny skies of fishermen's heaven.
[06:31:06] Like, it's funny to look back at me now, but I honestly thought I was gonna die and up here, like, it's fucking crazy.
[06:31:11] Like, this video is such a massive risk.
[06:31:13] Like, not just in my own life, which, you know, I'm very attached to, but even just the fact that, you know, chances are we'd get intercepted and I wouldn't even have any of this footage at the end anyway.
[06:31:22] And the only way I can actually take these risks is thanks to our supporters on our Patreon.
[06:31:26] Thanks to you guys, I can take these bigger risks and make more important videos, right?
[06:31:30] And because I know the community is going to have my back if anything goes wrong.
[06:31:34] And outside of that, this is by far the most expensive video I've ever filmed.
[06:31:38] It costs a stupid amount of money to pull this off.
[06:31:39] So if you want to help us out with future videos like this, jump on the link in the
[06:31:43] description and just for $5 a month, you can get a full link, exclusive video every month.
[06:31:48] Even if you hate me, it's worth $5 a month just to convince me to keep trying to kill
[06:31:52] myself.
[06:31:53] So it's a win-win for everyone.
[06:31:54] You should just do it.
[06:31:56] Now, the rest of the day is on the boat.
[06:31:58] Oh, chigging together into one long haze.
[06:32:02] The sun comes up, it's on one side of the boat,
[06:32:04] and then a little while later it comes down
[06:32:07] and it's on the other.
[06:32:09] You wake up sleeping on a pile of ropes
[06:32:10] and wearing the same clothes you wore
[06:32:12] for the past three days.
[06:32:13] You try to distract yourself from the fear
[06:32:14] by filling up your day, reading, playing Uno.
[06:32:18] The boat keeps rocking.
[06:32:19] You make Claudio, the 80 year old Italian journalist,
[06:32:22] burns himself on the chimney,
[06:32:23] so you have to make a warning sign.
[06:32:25] you cook, you eat, you sing.
[06:32:27] Seque de la clara.
[06:32:31] You try to work out if that new ship on the horizon is going to board you.
[06:32:35] You wash yourself with the dangly exhaust hose that cools the engine.
[06:32:38] And then you're told we'll be arriving in Cuba tomorrow morning.
[06:32:40] The sun goes down on one side of the boat and then it comes up on the other.
[06:32:45] You wake up on the Solgid Gym mat in the same clothes you've been wearing for four days.
[06:32:49] And then you're told you're arriving in Cuba tomorrow morning.
[06:32:51] And the same thing happens next morning.
[06:32:53] Honestly, I started to think maybe we had already been drone struck and we didn't even realize it, but we were now in Purgatory, and this was just our life for all eternity.
[06:33:03] Then one night, a bunch of tiny islands pop up on the radar, and in the morning, they pop up on the actual horizon.
[06:33:09] But you know, I've been in Purgatory today, so I don't fully believe my eyes.
[06:33:12] What is this going through the air?
[06:33:13] No land.
[06:33:15] I don't trust it.
[06:33:16] I feel like the Americans are going to intercept us.
[06:33:20] It's too exciting.
[06:33:20] Dude.
[06:33:21] No excelsis was it.
[06:33:23] We decided to climb up on the roof and make sure these Cuban mountains were real.
[06:33:53] It turns out nothing was definitely what it takes so long to get there isn't people like
[06:34:12] only 90 miles off the US shore genuine question they're going from Mexico gonna
[06:34:15] happen because we just got news the US ship had just moved to the outskirts of
[06:34:19] Havana. You heard about the US ship out of Havana? Yeah, I'm telling you, if those
[06:34:24] America's stop us, I will lose my mind. They could have stopped us at any point in the
[06:34:30] trip. They could have stopped us before we all threw up. They could have stopped us
[06:34:33] before we all spent three days at our own expense. Sleeping outside, or like, oh, the
[06:34:39] wet floor. But it turns out Cuba is a really, really long country. So that US ship in Havana
[06:34:45] will have to wait while we just sail along the coast for another two days. Until one
[06:34:49] One night, at 3am, we saw some lights.
[06:34:52] It was so weird looking at Havana, like after staring at the sea for days.
[06:34:56] It dawned on me that we were actually going to make it now, which was a relief, but it
[06:35:00] was also incredibly sad because Havana is enormous, right?
[06:35:04] Looking at the size of this city spanning the entire coastline up to the horizon, I
[06:35:07] couldn't help but be terrified by the concept that there are millions of people in there
[06:35:11] that are living without the basic necessities of life.
[06:35:14] I guess at least we made it.
[06:35:18] This Coast Guard was the first Cuban I spoke to.
[06:35:20] I knew what we'd do.
[06:35:21] See, your head's flat.
[06:35:23] He asked if I'd been to Cuba before, and when I told him I came 14 years ago, he immediately
[06:35:28] told me I'd probably have a 13-year-old kid here, and I was honestly a little bit embarrassed
[06:35:32] to know that my kid's first impression of me will be this, a guy that looks like absolute
[06:35:35] shit, but whatever.
[06:35:37] We made it back to experience this brutal communist dictatorship once again.
[06:35:40] They're a giant statue of Jesus.
[06:35:42] Ah.
[06:35:43] Well, maybe it's all going to be okay after all.
[06:35:45] Yeah.
[06:35:46] We need to look for the things we have in common.
[06:35:49] Yeah, yeah, we all love Jesus.
[06:35:52] Hassan, you would have jumped if you were there,
[06:35:55] if you were on there.
[06:35:56] Oh my God.
[06:35:56] Wait, what do you mean?
[06:35:57] I'm a little pickled there.
[06:35:58] I'm a little pickled there.
[06:36:00] That killed myself?
[06:36:01] Is that what you mean?
[06:36:02] I'm a little pickled there.
[06:36:04] He got you down, hey.
[06:36:06] Yeah, I was so shocked.
[06:36:07] You got to make it to nowhere.
[06:36:08] I'm going to horrible, what a horrible thought.
[06:36:14] It's like you're the first time, you're like, I'm going to die.
[06:36:18] Oh, you're going to die.
[06:36:20] Yeah, you're going to die.
[06:36:22] You're going to die.
[06:36:24] I was so excited to finally end the sea sickness,
[06:36:28] but no one told me about the land sickness.
[06:36:31] It was so tough for DGP.
[06:36:33] It's wobbly, wobbly land.
[06:36:36] It happens to be a destabilised country.
[06:36:39] I was so disorientated and thirsty and confused.
[06:36:43] One thing I knew for sure is that these Cuban delegates were about to shake hands with the stinkiest people they've ever met.
[06:37:13] Yeah. Crazy how much your mind ignores when you're on the boat. I got land. I need a shit.
[06:37:21] So my whole body is just fucking. Dude, this entire video is literally one
[06:37:27] collective journey about pooing. It's crazy. I wonder how many times he mentions the fact
[06:37:34] that he has the shit, he has shit.
[06:37:41] Wow.
[06:37:45] But it turns out we'd have to wait a few more hours before we could do any of that
[06:37:48] because all these people had come down at sunrise to welcome us.
[06:37:52] Now I didn't realise at this point but we also needed to unload the 30 tons we've loaded
[06:38:08] up in Mexico before we could get any relief.
[06:38:11] But it was done and we finally checked into our hotel room.
[06:38:14] We were staying at Hotel Presidente, one of the many kind of affordable state run hotels
[06:38:17] in Havana.
[06:38:18] Now the special thing about this place is that the US government won't let you stay
[06:38:21] here if you're a US citizen. You have to go to a private hotel or else you could face
[06:38:25] up to a penalty of 10 years in prison and a million dollars fine. But I'm Aussie so I
[06:38:29] don't have to worry about that. All I need to worry about now is having a shit in a shower.
[06:38:33] And even though the energy crisis meant that there was no hot water and occasionally there
[06:38:37] was no water at all, it was still a million times better than the boat and I felt relaxed
[06:38:41] for like the first time in a week. And then till I checked my phone.
[06:38:45] You know the Pentagon's new operation for Latin America is called Operation Total Extermination.
[06:38:53] Operation doing what the devil says.
[06:38:57] Why would you call it that?
[06:38:59] Total Extermination is not very different.
[06:39:01] Make a little bit of a scare me here. Like what do you mean?
[06:39:05] Total Extermination?
[06:39:07] Just so you know, hey it is so obviously just a computer game playing kid.
[06:39:13] Yeah, that's a suddenly too much to talk about.
[06:39:15] But if I thought the news on my phone was bad, it was even worse on Dan's phone when he tried to access his bank account.
[06:39:20] You're blocked from online services because you're in a sanctioned country on a beach.
[06:39:25] I don't know, I don't know. I'm all like, I need to buy a sandwich, see details.
[06:39:30] We obliged to manage our international sanctions risk, so you cannot buy a sandwich.
[06:39:36] That's sort of a random fucking Australian bank who just like...
[06:39:41] Yeah, this is a part of the reality of the sanctions is that you can be a country. You
[06:39:47] can be the bank of a country that has nothing to do with America at all. You can be an Australian bank
[06:39:53] who will refuse to allow you to, who will refuse to allow you to operate in Cuba because it's a
[06:40:00] sanctioned country because Australia, the bank is worried that America will punish them.
[06:40:04] Like get rid of your account if you do anything you can't do anything.
[06:40:10] And then I'm like okay cool well I'll go and get a VPN thing.
[06:40:16] And then look I tried to download this one.
[06:40:20] The app store is unavailable let me type that.
[06:40:22] Oh you got five!
[06:40:24] I can't, I can't.
[06:40:26] Are you kidding me?
[06:40:28] Oh I won.
[06:40:30] Here's a sandwich.
[06:40:32] You did
[06:40:34] I got my VPN on time
[06:40:36] Come on, missed a little bit
[06:40:38] You get it, look at it
[06:40:40] Cuba, he was a communist country
[06:40:42] That's why things are so bad right now
[06:40:44] I'm gonna learn from Cuba's mistakes
[06:40:46] You're just sanctioning me as well
[06:40:48] No, you know what, you know what, I think the value
[06:40:50] I don't know how the fuck he even had
[06:40:52] You didn't really need, you don't really need a VPN
[06:40:54] But I don't really know how the fuck
[06:40:56] He even had internet at all
[06:40:58] When he was there
[06:41:00] I'll be honest with you that she was impossible.
[06:41:04] Like.
[06:41:06] Um, it was genuinely impossible.
[06:41:13] You like the value of money to you is actually so much more than it is to me.
[06:41:17] Yeah, I'm going to loan you the hotel Wi-Fi dog.
[06:41:20] I was in a hotel too.
[06:41:21] I'm telling you the hotel Wi-Fi was always out.
[06:41:25] If you want five dollars now, you have to give me 50 bucks in a month.
[06:41:28] Right.
[06:41:28] It's like a well bank loan.
[06:41:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[06:41:31] You have to say you have to restructure all this stuff.
[06:41:33] It's a little bit easier than, like, you know,
[06:41:35] organising a wallet.
[06:41:36] Yeah.
[06:41:38] Now, to be fair, even if Dan was allowed to access his bank account,
[06:41:41] pretty much all the ATMs are down because of the energy shortages.
[06:41:44] So since I'm the guy who, you know, took out money before the trip,
[06:41:47] and, you know, I need Dan to hold the camera and not be dead,
[06:41:50] I decided I won't let him starve for now.
[06:41:52] But anyway, the rest time was over,
[06:41:55] and we had to find our way to the hospital to hand off all the A that we brought.
[06:41:58] So the problem was that the hospital was like 10 kilometers away and it's incredibly difficult to get a taxi with barely any fuel in the country
[06:42:05] But luckily with the help of a world-famous soccer player called Shijing Ping
[06:42:09] Cuba set up a factory just outside of Havana pumping out thousands of these electric tuk-tuk's
[06:42:13] You know in response to the US cutting off all fuel from the country
[06:42:16] It was pretty strange getting our first actual glimpse of Cuba
[06:42:20] The streets were so empty compared to 14 years ago and because the fuel blockade made driving nearly impossible
[06:42:24] You had to go for all these weaker vehicles that used renewable energy like you know the two horsepower
[06:42:29] Tuk-Tuk saw this one horsepower horse
[06:42:31] But we finally arrived to this children's hospital that specializes in cardiovascular care and it honestly felt surreal seeing all this
[06:42:38] Aid reaches destination and something tells me the nurses couldn't believe it even for the past couple months
[06:42:43] All I could think about was this flotilla
[06:42:45] But somehow the only thing I actually thought about was the flotilla as a political stuff right getting on the boat and exposing to the
[06:42:51] that the US is killing people through their blockade at Cuba and hopefully, you know, inspiring people and governments around the world to take action.
[06:42:57] But I didn't actually think about the real people that are going to receive the aid that we're bringing.
[06:43:01] But then there are children in this hospital whose lives are going to be dramatically affected by this, you know, 30 tons of food, medicine and solar panels that we filled our little boat with.
[06:43:09] I honestly hadn't thought about the real-world impact of that.
[06:43:21] It was actually so nice seeing where all our aid was going, but it felt like a drop in
[06:43:45] the water.
[06:43:46] The hospital was running out of everything, from medications to medical machines to simple
[06:43:50] things like goals and advantages.
[06:44:20] Yeah, there are entire fucking graveyards of perfectly fixable equipment in Cuba that
[06:44:28] simply will never be repaired because one tiny component was broken and it's a proprietary
[06:44:36] piece of technology and the company that they purchased it from has decided now that they're
[06:44:42] worried about American sanctions so they won't send the components necessary to fix it.
[06:44:49] It's horrifying.
[06:45:04] Like, one of the most insane aspects of this is someone says,
[06:45:06] your country deserves a Israel treatment for this.
[06:45:08] Yes, it's true.
[06:45:09] And if in a just world, we would be a pariah state in the same way that Israel is,
[06:45:12] I mean, after all, half of Israel's crimes is because we allow them to do it.
[06:45:16] Do it in the other half is because we give them the weapons to do it
[06:45:20] Now one of the most insane aspects of this is that it's totally unnecessary
[06:45:27] okay
[06:45:28] This kind of cruelty is unbelievably unnecessary and as a matter of fact there's an argument to be made about
[06:45:36] Removing these setbacks and and actually allowing Cuba to thrive which could be beneficial for America as well
[06:45:42] We just choose to be cruel to these people, genuinely, and no, it's not Trump.
[06:45:55] This is every president with the exception of Barack Obama has continued this in some
[06:46:00] way, shape, or form.
[06:46:01] Barack Obama was the first American president that actually eased and allowed Cuba room
[06:46:07] to breathe, room to develop.
[06:46:08] It was actually a tremendous, a tremendously positive moment for Cuba's future.
[06:46:17] So as much as I shit on Obama, and I don't think he went hard enough, I've told you guys
[06:46:22] this already.
[06:46:25] I told you guys this already.
[06:46:29] I spoke to the Cubans, like government officials, and they literally, I was like, so why do
[06:46:34] you think Obama did this?
[06:46:35] and they're like, we have no idea.
[06:46:37] Okay?
[06:46:41] They don't even know why Obama did it.
[06:46:45] Like, they couldn't even believe it.
[06:46:55] My king supplies and equipment is just like one of the many issues that they have to deal with here.
[06:47:00] Man, he did that shit for his legacy on his way out the door. He didn't give a fuck.
[06:47:03] fuck what are you talking about that's not true no it was been Hamas roads for the record
[06:47:12] and uh and it was the only
[06:47:17] and it was not you're you're thinking of Biden oh Biden
[06:47:33] in a city, and also in a city where everything is complicated,
[06:47:36] we know what it is about, but we don't care about it.
[06:47:39] We are very careful with the use of a computer.
[06:47:43] For example, there is an area that is not possible
[06:47:46] and that is not possible to use a computer.
[06:47:49] And also because the computer has to be saved
[06:47:53] for the general way, because we have an intensive therapy.
[06:47:57] The Austin OX edited this one too.
[06:48:01] Does it say?
[06:48:05] Because I feel like he's using the same exact.
[06:48:10] He's using the same exact.
[06:48:13] Subtitles that I.
[06:48:17] And also the same soundtrack.
[06:48:20] Well, did you re re?
[06:48:22] Did you reuse the same soundtrack, Austin OX?
[06:48:24] Son of a bitch!
[06:48:54] After seeing him in person, I really don't understand how anyone so well-increasingly
[06:49:23] What else mean that the doctors have to operate with their hands throughout the night?
[06:49:27] It doesn't make any sense.
[06:49:29] I can't actually say how they're going to keep this going over the next few days, let alone months.
[06:49:32] No, I didn't think that he would.
[06:49:33] The wild party is even in the middle of this.
[06:49:35] No, I didn't think it was too scared to go.
[06:49:37] Crisis.
[06:49:38] No, you...
[06:49:38] Cuba's still dedicated to making life-saving care available to everyone.
[06:49:42] What's he?
[06:49:44] No, no, no, no, it's a man.
[06:49:46] He's a real person, but he's a boy.
[06:49:48] Don't reveal editor's secrets.
[06:50:17] managed to keep health care free during this humanitarian crisis, made me feel a little
[06:50:21] bit hopeful, right?
[06:50:22] And until I stepped outside and got a taste of reality-
[06:50:25] Your video and his video should have voiceover for translations.
[06:50:28] Dog I literally did that.
[06:50:30] My video has voiceover for translations.
[06:50:32] The fuck are you talking about?
[06:50:35] We did do that.
[06:50:37] Alvi.
[06:50:38] It turned out that one of the members of ATHLETE, Tiago, had been arrested while flying home
[06:50:43] on his connecting flight in Panama.
[06:50:45] The interrogation was so funny when like the entire thing is broadcast almost live, you know?
[06:50:51] Like, what were you doing? It's like, well, then it's basically the entire thing.
[06:50:57] Right after that, we heard that the other two boats from earlier in the video were meant to arrive today
[06:51:01] but they had completely vanished on the high seat.
[06:51:03] We saw the phone with the Mexican authorities. They're launching like a search and rescue thing
[06:51:07] because no one knows where the two sailboats went.
[06:51:09] Holy shit.
[06:51:10] So they are trying to find them.
[06:51:12] But if he's there or worried, that's something happens.
[06:51:15] We just don't know.
[06:51:16] I'm just mistaken.
[06:51:17] But there was literally nothing we could do about either of those things, but, you know,
[06:51:20] sit and be scared.
[06:51:21] So we decided to walk around the hospital and we bumped into this nice Swiss man, Franco
[06:51:26] Cavallo.
[06:51:27] He happens to be one of the best oncologists in the world.
[06:51:29] Like, this man wrote the textbook on medical oncology.
[06:51:32] No, it was him, I checked it, he's the guy who wrote it.
[06:51:35] As a world-renowned oncologist, he's particularly upset that Cuba is, you know, blocked off
[06:51:39] from accessing vital cancer medications that he helped create, right?
[06:51:43] So, so he spends much of his free time visiting Cuba and trying to help.
[06:51:46] But he struggles to find any European company that dares to do business
[06:51:49] with Cuba because they're so scared of the Americans.
[06:51:52] I think I'm actually an important part in the treatment of many
[06:51:56] cancers in China.
[06:51:58] Cuba was buying that in the past.
[06:52:00] And there were work like three companies producing guns.
[06:52:04] Two of the companies were bought by the third one, which is an American company.
[06:52:09] But it's not just humanitarian doctors like Franco that visit Cuba, apparently western
[06:52:23] big-farmer CEOs are coming here too.
[06:52:36] GFP mentioned you in their poll. Bro, they mentioned me in a negative messaging. Look
[06:52:43] at this. This is crazy. Data for progress. Next voters were provided with likely attacks
[06:52:53] against each candidate. Ask the RHE statements convincing us. I'll say a statement is attacked
[06:52:57] for being, with a, being a far left radical with ties to the Sompike or being a candidate
[06:53:01] who would make headlines for the wrong reasons, not achieving results. Stephen showcased
[06:53:05] as an establishment politician with ties to APEC and Roger showcases affiliation with
[06:53:08] Donald Trump branding him a Maga Republican.
[06:53:11] Majority of voters found Stevens 53 and Roger see the two statements on very somewhat convincing
[06:53:15] reasons to vote against each. Negative messaging is against, I'll do I'll say it. Meanwhile,
[06:53:19] is viewed less convincing.
[06:53:20] My majority of voters, the reason to vote against them. Yeah. Because ties to Hassan
[06:53:26] Piker is an incredibly stupid line of attack. That's why I could have told you that a majority
[06:53:36] of Michigan voters view opponents messaging us outside as unconvincing. Finally, voters
[06:53:41] were provided with a final set of horse race questions and asked which candidate they would
[06:53:43] vote for. After attacks, L side maintains his lead over Rogers that continues to outperform
[06:53:47] Stevens and a head to head against Rogers overall with independence, 51 to 39 L side,
[06:53:52] 45 to 41 Stevens, young voters, 61 to 35, Al-Sayed, 52 to 34 with Stevens and black voters, 71 to
[06:54:00] 23 Al-Sayed, 70 to 22 Stevens. Al-Sayed maintains lead over Rogers after negative messaging.
[06:54:09] Yeah. The biographies were, the negative statement was that Al-Sayed is too radical to be trusted
[06:54:15] as Senator. Back by another leftist radical Bernie Sanders, Al-Sayed is touted as a relationship
[06:54:19] with the Sompiker, a left-wing political commentator throughout the campaign trail,
[06:54:22] even after a Sompiker was accused of anti-semitism and saying America deserved 9-11.
[06:54:26] He has also pushed for extreme policies like abolishing ice and Medicare for all.
[06:54:29] We need someone who will be focused on results, not making headlines for the wrong reason.
[06:54:35] Haley Stevens is an established politician who won't listen to the needs of every
[06:54:51] Micheal Anders, but will instead listen to corporate and foreign interests who are
[06:54:53] funding her Senate campaign. She's taken money from the pro-Israel lobby, APEC, and
[06:54:59] has received thousands of dollars of campaign donations of run advertising across the state,
[06:55:02] We've seen time and time again from politicians who want our vote yet will do nothing for us while in office. I
[06:55:09] Got this survey. Okay. How did you respond? You better have been like I love Hassan piker. I'm
[06:55:15] Voting extra hard for Abdul
[06:55:23] Mike Rogers just another mega candidate who's advocating for pause that will hurt our state
[06:55:27] He's endorsed by Trump and if elected the office
[06:55:29] Brazil will continue the president's awful policies that have pushed the affordability
[06:55:33] crest to another level.
[06:55:34] I mean, is data for progress so like the negative slant is?
[06:55:59] I'm not saying I'm proud of it, but there was reasons behind it.
[06:56:06] I'm not saying I'm proud of it, but there was reasons behind it.
[06:56:11] Speaking of, here's a Trump-Abdual voter.
[06:56:13] All right, what's your name?
[06:56:14] Ahmed El-Riyashi.
[06:56:15] Ahmed, what do you like about Abdul?
[06:56:17] You told me that you voted for Trump in 2024.
[06:56:20] We got Abdul supporters right here in Chandler Park.
[06:56:23] What's the rate, Sim, from other Democrats for you?
[06:56:25] Well, one for the Trump one.
[06:56:26] I'm not saying I'm proud of it, but there was reasons behind it.
[06:56:28] things behind it all right let's continue which work in both my company I know very
[06:56:41] important CEO of a very important company who came in cognitive to Cuba nobody was allowed to tell
[06:56:49] that he was going to see what they are searching for and so I'm standing there on the street talking
[06:56:56] into a world-renowned cancer researcher,
[06:56:57] and he's telling me that, you know,
[06:56:59] big pharma executives are entering Cuba secretly
[06:57:01] to, like, collaborate on research projects
[06:57:03] without the US government knowing.
[06:57:05] But it's all just kind of, like, difficult to believe.
[06:57:09] Right? How does a Caribbean country, you know,
[06:57:11] it's blocked off from trading with the world?
[06:57:13] How do they become a biomedical powerhouse
[06:57:15] making insane discoveries, like, you know,
[06:57:17] the world's only meningococcal B vaccine
[06:57:19] and luring big pharma execs with these breakthroughs?
[06:57:21] And, you know, all the other Caribbean countries
[06:57:23] are still stuck researching who that guy was
[06:57:25] that it evolves out. It just doesn't make sense. So the next day, we decided to visit
[06:57:29] the Neuroscience Institute to see how it's possible that Cuba's pumping out all these
[06:57:32] medical breakthroughs under siege. Now this institute was on the other side of town, so
[06:57:37] we were facing the same problem we'd faced multiple times a day in Cuba, finding transportation.
[06:57:41] Now after being on land for so long, I was honestly missing the diesel fumes of the boat
[06:57:45] engine, so I decided to splurge and get a real petrol taxi to take us to the institute.
[06:57:51] And we're going there with our mate Daniel. He's a Cuban journalist working for the independent
[06:57:55] media outlet, Belly of the Beast. They do awesome documentaries and on the ground reporting
[06:57:58] in a place that's always like so saturated with fake news from mainstream media. So you
[06:58:03] can check them out in the video description. Now Daniel joined our project as a producer,
[06:58:06] which is, you know, a stressful job at the best of times, but he was also doing it under
[06:58:10] the constant threat of being bombed by a foreign country.
[06:58:12] Realizing that the future, the future goes around you and some depending on, you know,
[06:58:18] individual decisions of people that, you know, honestly, can give two shits about any future.
[06:58:23] It's uh, it's daunting.
[06:58:25] Yeah, it sounds terrifying.
[06:58:27] The idea that these are heroes, man.
[06:58:29] The idea of an art of innovation.
[06:58:31] Going into my mind. You know, I keep having nightmares about it.
[06:58:35] Cuba sounds like an amazing place. You can walk around the street,
[06:58:37] just bump into the world-renowned doctors, top-viewed streamers,
[06:58:40] and Jeremy Corbin all while just trying to find a place to poo.
[06:58:45] They start bumping. I'm dead.
[06:58:48] A lot of people are aware that this is a real possibility,
[06:58:51] possibility and those who are thinking it like that would be like there's not a single one that would say hey
[06:58:57] like yeah sure they should bomb Japan. Like you know that's not a thing like you could find
[06:59:02] someone that tells you sure I hope the government changes right but bombs and bullets they have no
[06:59:07] names you know once the shooting starts no one's stopping and say let's see if this guy was a communist.
[06:59:16] After that fun chat in the taxi we finally got the neuroscience institute to meet up with
[06:59:21] with Dr. Mitchell Valdez-Sosa.
[06:59:23] Don't panic if there's a power cut.
[06:59:25] That's my guy.
[06:59:25] The elevator will have no...
[06:59:27] That's my goat.
[06:59:29] Dr. Mitch.
[06:59:31] This guy is fucking incredible.
[06:59:35] Problem, and we just waited.
[06:59:36] We're gonna do the interview again.
[06:59:37] He's not my guy, he's the guy.
[06:59:39] Oh my God, that is sick merch.
[06:59:42] All right, yeah.
[06:59:43] This was the very first medical equipment
[06:59:46] manufactured in Cuba.
[06:59:47] A Cuban computer.
[06:59:48] It turns out, Cuba became a research hub
[06:59:50] thanks to this computer and a guy called Erwin Roy John,
[06:59:53] the father of quantitative,
[06:59:55] the father of quantitative electroencelephography
[07:00:00] and neurometrics.
[07:00:01] And look, I don't know what that means,
[07:00:03] but I was standing in front of a world renowned scientist,
[07:00:05] so I just knotted along, right?
[07:00:07] Now, Erwin Roy John wasn't a fan of Big Pharma,
[07:00:09] and he was a massive fan of Cuba's
[07:00:11] universal healthcare system,
[07:00:12] because, you know, he's interested in treating people
[07:00:14] and not just making products for a company
[07:00:15] to sell to the highest bidder.
[07:00:17] So he wanted to do his research here.
[07:00:19] Irving Roy John was fired up with this idea and he said,
[07:00:22] I'm going to bring to Cuba some computers with my software
[07:00:27] for studying the electrical activity of brains.
[07:00:30] Of course, when he asked for the permit,
[07:00:33] whatever to explore it, they said, oops,
[07:00:35] that's trading with the enemy.
[07:00:36] In the meantime, Fidel had talked to the university professors
[07:00:40] and asked them, you guys can make a computer,
[07:00:42] he said, we can't.
[07:00:43] And looking at the user's manual,
[07:00:45] they started deducing, if this does this,
[07:00:48] It has to work in this way, in the inside, on the problem.
[07:00:52] Troy returned, ashamed.
[07:00:54] I wasn't able to convince the US government.
[07:00:57] We said, nope, we have our own.
[07:00:58] Do I resort it, though?
[07:00:59] That was how the neuroscience institute was started.
[07:01:02] Now, the research Owen Roy John did here
[07:01:04] led to breakthroughs like this.
[07:01:05] And trust me, I googled it.
[07:01:06] Like, I don't fully understand it,
[07:01:08] but they're definitely breakthroughs.
[07:01:09] And in Cuba, these insights were used
[07:01:12] to test every child in the country
[07:01:13] for neurological disorders like epilepsy for free.
[07:01:16] And in the US, the same breakthroughs
[07:01:18] used to, you know, charge parents upwards of $22,000 if they want to know if their kid has epilepsy.
[07:01:22] So it's no wonder Roy John opted to do his world-renowned research in Cuba,
[07:01:26] even though he knew full well that he'd be blacklisted by the US government for doing it.
[07:01:30] Cuba is the only country in the world that had to develop everything themselves,
[07:01:33] from the ventilators that saved countless lives during COVID to screening devices for newborns
[07:01:38] and hearing aids, which by all accounts should be almost impossible to do. Like even in a country
[07:01:42] like the US, right, one of the biggest bio-med industries in the world, they still rely heavily
[07:01:46] on global supply chains for all their medical treatments, no country can function without
[07:01:50] accessing the things that the rest of the world produces.
[07:01:53] But cutting off Cuba from the world isn't just cruel to this island nation of 10 million
[07:01:56] people.
[07:01:57] It's also cruel to everyday Americans who can't access any of Cuba's medical breakthroughs
[07:02:05] such as treating early onset Alzheimer's or healing diabetic ulcers without having to
[07:02:09] anti-taple him, which affects you?
[07:02:11] No, you, the person watching this, it affects you directly.
[07:02:14] You've been sitting here watching it for over an hour now, and that means that you're much,
[07:02:18] much more likely to develop type 2 diabetes.
[07:02:20] Tens of thousands of amputation in the US and all over the world.
[07:02:25] The cooperation between the US and Cuba could save from amputation dozens of thousands of people a year.
[07:02:35] There's no right to harm a country, but you're also harming your people. It's absurd. It's absurd.
[07:02:41] This U.S. policy of suffocation only really has one explanation.
[07:02:45] They don't like the Cuban example. This is fractions of a cent.
[07:02:49] We provide our people with medicines at extremely low prices.
[07:02:54] In the U.S., the whole pharmaceutical industry is profit-driven.
[07:02:58] And this is the gigantic lobby. So this example of socialized medicine and
[07:03:04] preventive medicine, it doesn't fit into their profit-driven ideas.
[07:03:09] I love this man so much.
[07:03:11] The US has been doing this for the past 60 years and it's just, it's crazy to think that these doctors and researchers are still making scientific advancements with like, an echo like blockade and rolling blackouts and, and we were about to experience a really big one that night while we were having beers with our 80 year old friend Claudio at the hotel.
[07:03:27] Yeah, he comes with us and I think that's what makes him crazy.
[07:03:33] Pretty freaky, but sadly this was business as usual for the Cubans
[07:03:36] and everyone was ready with emergency tortures and emergency orchestral instruments
[07:03:41] Is someone just playing the flute outside?
[07:03:43] In the middle of the blackout?
[07:03:45] Yeah Cubans, Cubans get down
[07:03:50] Fuckin' JBL speakers blasted music in the street
[07:03:54] No electricity, everything is pitch black darkness
[07:03:59] Oh there's a car coming
[07:04:01] Someone's got a light
[07:04:03] This would be so creepy if it wasn't for the floutest.
[07:04:07] It turns out some people are even more prepared than the flute player, and they have their
[07:04:12] own backup generators.
[07:04:14] Will our key cards...
[07:04:15] Oh, there we go.
[07:04:16] Hey, nice.
[07:04:17] I was wondering if our key cards will open the lock to the door.
[07:04:22] Now we've never been in a city-wide blackout before, so we took this opportunity to scope
[07:04:26] it out.
[07:04:27] Occasionally you'll stumble upon a private business that managed to get a backup generator
[07:04:30] going, but generally it was just pitch black.
[07:04:32] I can't imagine going through this multiple days a week, I mean, we barely found our way home in the dark.
[07:04:37] But we woke up to some even worse news the next morning. Our two boats were still missing.
[07:04:42] It was quite scary. And then you think of all those songs you were singing.
[07:04:46] About dying at sea. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like that.
[07:04:51] Yeah, I don't do okay.
[07:04:52] Yeah, and I think the thing that kind of caught me today is that they did a search and there was no one.
[07:04:57] Oh, there's nothing we can really do.
[07:05:01] Just wait and see and hope so.
[07:05:02] Hopefully they come down to that harbour over the end of this street,
[07:05:06] where we go and give them a big hug.
[07:05:09] Now, to get our mind off of our potentially dead friends,
[07:05:11] we decided to, you know, talk to some people whose lives were comparatively worse
[07:05:15] to make us feel better.
[07:05:16] So we went to Central Ivana, one of the poorest parts of the city,
[07:05:19] to see how everyday people were living under the blockade.
[07:05:22] We thought the best place to start was at the Community Medical Centre
[07:05:25] to speak to Dr Roxana.
[07:05:26] Roxana. She agreed to chat with us about how the community was dealing with the blockade,
[07:05:29] but I also realized I had an opportunity to get free health care, so I wanted to get that sorted first.
[07:05:50] So apparently there's one of these community clinics every couple of blocks in Cuba,
[07:05:53] and they're actually community doctors, right?
[07:05:55] They spend half their day in the clinic like a normal GP
[07:05:58] and they spend the rest of their day
[07:05:59] going around and breathing.
[07:06:00] You have deadly IBS.
[07:06:02] You can checkups at people's houses.
[07:06:03] So your average Cuban will have a GP visit them every two weeks to checkups,
[07:06:07] not just when they're sick, but like, all the time.
[07:06:09] In Australia, we got so much money and resources,
[07:06:12] but you'll never, like, ever get that amount of attention from a doctor.
[07:06:15] Like, I'm lucky if I get five minutes for the GP when I'm sick,
[07:06:17] let alone if I feel perfectly fine.
[07:06:19] I had a problem in my age, I had to go to the hospital every time.
[07:06:25] And I don't know why.
[07:06:29] I went to the doctor and we did a lot of things.
[07:06:34] It was my first time.
[07:06:36] I was a human being.
[07:06:40] And that's why I was a sick father.
[07:06:44] But we all know that we are not the same, but we know that we are not the same.
[07:06:52] That's why I have to listen to you.
[07:06:54] It's a very important thing to do.
[07:06:57] You have to have it all.
[07:06:59] The psychological responsibility that you have to deal with is the psychological responsibility.
[07:07:04] The idea is that you are not the same.
[07:07:08] So I have to have it all with the same base of the system.
[07:07:13] Yeah, Americans also unironically think that the Cuban government is just like refusing
[07:07:39] to give people medicine.
[07:07:42] Like this is, with how little they have, I am confident in saying like this is one of
[07:07:47] the greatest medical systems on the entire planet, okay?
[07:07:53] And the saddest state of affairs is that because there's no diesel, there's no fuel for logistics
[07:08:00] and no electricity to keep medicine in cold storage as is necessary, they can't even
[07:08:08] move this product around.
[07:08:10] They have some of the precursory chemicals.
[07:08:12] They can't make the medicine in factories because they just don't have, uh,
[07:08:15] they don't have oil. And on top of that, they just can't, um,
[07:08:21] they can't ship out medicine in general.
[07:08:24] This is of course stuff that they have to make on the island regardless because
[07:08:29] it's very difficult to also purchase medicine from other countries left in the
[07:08:33] country. And everyone's just trying their best to get a hold of something.
[07:08:35] We decided to follow Roxana around that day while she did a house business.
[07:08:41] So, they could but they want to be hostile.
[07:08:47] Attention doesn't equal treatment. They could but they want to be hostile. Cuba wants to be hostile.
[07:08:52] To who? They're just hostile by existing. Is that what it is? There's one country that's hostile
[07:08:59] in this scenario. It's the United States of America. How can you look at this stuff and
[07:09:03] and just be like, yeah, they're hostile, so they deserve it.
[07:09:07] Some of y'all are, uh, I'm a Israeli.
[07:09:12] You know,
[07:09:19] I wish you a faith far worse than the one you're comfortable, uh,
[07:09:22] wishing upon others get a better feel of how regular Cubans are dealing with the
[07:09:25] unfolding humanitarian crisis. The first patient, I hope you suffer alone.
[07:09:29] You know, he's already suffering alone.
[07:09:31] No one who isn't suffering alone would come up with such a fucking evil thing to say.
[07:09:36] It was Glenda, a 79-year-old woman who was diagnosed with diabetes.
[07:09:40] And after a checkup, she agreed to chat with us about, you know, how she's been dealing with the blackouts.
[07:09:45] It's possible to know when and after you've had a...
[07:09:49] There are times, yes, there are times.
[07:09:51] The biggest part of the story is that I'm not going to explain it to you, you know?
[07:09:56] Yes, yes.
[07:09:57] But for me it's very difficult to know how it works.
[07:10:05] No, it's difficult to know why we don't do it.
[07:10:10] But it's very difficult, for example, if there's no electricity, how do we cook the dinner?
[07:10:16] Exactly.
[07:10:17] So what do we do? When there's electricity, we have to raise the temperature,
[07:10:22] make the electricity flow, and so on.
[07:10:25] And that can be done at three o'clock in the morning.
[07:10:28] At three o'clock in the morning.
[07:10:30] Because I don't know how to do it.
[07:10:33] You say, that doesn't add water.
[07:10:35] So, that's how it works.
[07:10:38] For example, to do it, you have to take into account
[07:10:43] one, that there is water.
[07:10:45] Because even if there is water in the system,
[07:10:48] if there is no electricity,
[07:10:50] to be able to use it,
[07:10:52] It turns out Glenda was 13 years old when the revolution happened and because she knew
[07:11:12] how to read and write as a teenager she volunteered to go teach in the countryside as part of this
[07:11:17] you know sudden nationwide push to eliminate illiteracy and what she saw in the Cuban
[07:11:22] countryside in 1960, Broca.
[07:11:52] I've never been too much involved in my life.
[07:11:54] There's nothing for me to tell you about,
[07:11:56] because the Americans are the ones who are lying to me.
[07:12:00] I'm a town.
[07:12:01] And then there's this weird souvenir clock
[07:12:03] she had on her wall as well.
[07:12:04] And it turns out she's experienced capitalism more than once.
[07:12:07] In 2009, the South African government was giving out flights
[07:12:09] to people who wanted to volunteer in local communities,
[07:12:12] and she obviously jumped at the rare opportunity
[07:12:14] to see the world that she'd been locked out of.
[07:12:16] But you know what?
[07:12:17] In South Africa, I went to a community
[07:12:20] I had 500,000 people living in Casuchia.
[07:12:25] The same conditions.
[07:12:27] It was incredible.
[07:12:30] One of the problems they had was that they didn't know how to find their way.
[07:12:36] So the community had a council that they had to pay every month
[07:12:44] We were in a hurry.
[07:12:46] We were in a hurry.
[07:12:48] And then when I was there,
[07:12:50] I asked him if he could come to the country
[07:12:52] and he said,
[07:12:54] ''Come on, come on, come on,
[07:12:56] you're horrible.
[07:12:58] We can't be in Australia.''
[07:13:00] You can get the Post-Incenture insurance.
[07:13:02] Sure, sure.
[07:13:04] Yes, sure, sure.
[07:13:06] I don't know.
[07:13:08] It's something popular,
[07:13:10] there are commercials
[07:13:12] This is television.
[07:13:14] This is the guy, right?
[07:13:16] I'm here to tell you.
[07:13:18] To die.
[07:13:20] That's what you said.
[07:13:22] No, no, no.
[07:13:24] This is...
[07:13:26] This is all of it.
[07:13:28] We're going to die here.
[07:13:30] We're going to be here.
[07:13:32] We're going to be here.
[07:13:34] I'm sure you know it.
[07:13:36] Thank you.
[07:13:38] If you want to play,
[07:13:40] Hopefully one day I get to come back and take her up on the coffee, but I mean getting
[07:13:47] to Cuba wasn't easy and when I turned on the TV that night, it felt like getting to Cuba
[07:13:51] was almost impossible.
[07:13:52] Like our missing boats were prime time using Cuba and we were starting to get really worried
[07:13:56] for our friends.
[07:13:58] But being scared for your friends and family is just a taste of the daily lives of Cuban
[07:14:02] people who, you know, they're either facing starvation or like a full-on invasion.
[07:14:06] Like the next news story was about university students training to defend themselves when
[07:14:10] than the U.S. in fact.
[07:14:11] Like, there isn't a single part of these people's lives
[07:14:14] that isn't affected by the blockade.
[07:14:15] Like, from the simplest things,
[07:14:16] like garbage trucks struggling to get, you know,
[07:14:18] the few drops of fuel left in the country
[07:14:20] so the streets overflow with rubbish,
[07:14:22] to completely empty tourist centers.
[07:14:24] Like, literally nothing is coming into this country.
[07:14:26] But in the middle of all this,
[07:14:28] the weird part is that life somehow goes on.
[07:14:30] The country's slowly suffocating, right?
[07:14:32] They're facing a humanitarian crisis on the horizon,
[07:14:34] but everyone's just trying their best
[07:14:35] to live their lives in any way they can.
[07:14:37] Like, I spoke to so many people during this trip,
[07:14:39] obviously the video is already enormous so I had to cut a bunch of stuff but if
[07:14:43] you want to see the full uncut conversations with everyday Cubans
[07:14:46] jump on the Patreon because I'll be uploading all of them there but the
[07:14:49] same thing happened in all these conversations right I kept trying to
[07:14:52] do the maths like if the average salary is like $20 a month and a bag of rice
[07:14:56] costs $12 how's it possible that anyone surviving and I asked this
[07:15:01] question to every Cuban I met and every person had pretty much exactly the same
[07:15:04] answer they all told me that they had no idea either it's crazy like a couple of
[07:15:09] days later we found out that our friends weren't dead which is you know it's a
[07:15:13] massive relief and and the rest of our humanitarian aid made to Cuba and
[07:15:16] obviously the Cubans were ecstatic that you know someone out there cares about
[07:15:19] what's going on but the reality is that what's on those tiny little boats can
[07:15:23] only go so far like things are getting really really bad in Cuba like people
[07:15:27] are dying and everyone else is just living on borrowed time and this was
[07:15:31] the point of the blockade for the past 60 years when enough people starve to death
[07:15:34] the Cubans won't have many options left right though they'll get desperate and
[07:15:37] and they'll eventually dismantle the social system they built.
[07:15:40] I mean, unless the US gets bored of waiting and invades them first.
[07:15:43] But either way, you know, the Marfield get their cities back,
[07:15:46] the Plantation Owners will get their slaves back,
[07:15:48] and the US will get their sugar companies back.
[07:15:49] And the PeopleTuber, they can look forward to becoming just like
[07:15:53] all the other capitalist third world countries around them,
[07:15:55] like Haiti and Dominica, or even Puerto Rico, right?
[07:15:58] Which is actually part of the US,
[07:15:59] but they haven't had a functioning electricity grid for the past nine years anyway.
[07:16:02] Like, these countries experience some of the worst living standards in the world,
[07:16:05] and their lives are about to get much worse,
[07:16:07] because the US recently kicked all the Cuban doctors out of the third world as part of the blockade.
[07:16:11] So I guess Haiti doesn't have any healthcare now either, and let me think about all these places
[07:16:15] from Haiti to Somalia where people can't afford food and everyone's slowly starving to death.
[07:16:21] In all these places, it's kind of really hard to even work out where to start, right?
[07:16:26] Like, how do you fix this? Who's going to invest? What would they even build there?
[07:16:29] Is it going to go to the right people? Right, but the tragedy of Cuba is that they've already set
[07:16:33] everything up on their own. You know, they got world-class health care, they've got the infrastructure
[07:16:38] and the know-how. The only thing we need to do is just stop fucking with them. Literally,
[07:16:43] only thing the world needs to do is just treat them how we treat any other country in the world.
[07:16:47] Let them buy food, let them buy fuel, let them buy medicine, just let themselves start. I don't know,
[07:16:52] we just need to be normal. At this point in the video, I'd usually provide a link. I want to
[07:16:58] share a fundraiser for Progressive International that's planning to bring more aid boats to Cuba,
[07:17:02] but the US is saying to them too. So honestly, I don't know what to do. I don't usually say this,
[07:17:07] but I'm completely out of ideas. It's up to you guys. You need to do everything you can to stop
[07:17:12] your governments from killing these people. Yep. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. That was a
[07:17:25] great video from Boyboy, by the way. Shout out. I'm so proud of him for going out there.
[07:17:30] taking the long way there, making it happen, making it work, but God damn dude, we are,
[07:17:38] we are real blight on this fucking planet. And it's not even like the average American
[07:17:42] that wants this. Like I know, I know for a fucking fact, you pull the average American,
[07:17:51] you go to the average American, they don't even need to fully understand what the fuck
[07:17:54] is going on. They don't even need to see the devastation. You just go to the average American
[07:17:58] you're like, Hey, this is what we're doing to Cuba. Do you think this is good?
[07:18:02] The overwhelming majority, with the exception of, I guess, like
[07:18:07] the, the gusanos in Florida.
[07:18:09] And even then, there's probably plenty of fucking Cubans in Florida that also don't
[07:18:13] like what's going on currently.
[07:18:16] But with the exception of like a handful of, uh, uh, Americans, most would say no.
[07:18:23] No.
[07:18:25] There's no reason for it. There's no reason for this pain that we're causing. Literally no reason.
[07:18:29] As a matter of fact, doing the opposite of what we've done to Cuba so far would probably be beneficial
[07:18:35] for America and certainly be beneficial for Cuba. Which just doesn't make any sense.
[07:18:45] And we just keep dishing out this pain for no reason. People say their economy doesn't work.
[07:18:53] Yeah, because they're stupid. They don't understand that we've killed their economy put a gun to the head of their economy plus
[07:18:59] They've already done the reforms doesn't matter
[07:19:02] Doesn't matter if they have a socialist form of governance doesn't matter if they have a communist state
[07:19:09] Every single UN vote every single UN vote looks like this
[07:19:14] To end the economic embargo and sanctions imposed by the United States
[07:19:18] two abstentions Ukraine and Brazil not even sure why Brazil abstained and Israel and America against
[07:19:27] other way that's pathetic and shameful of Brazil to abstain
[07:19:32] Oh, is this from Bolsonaro? Is that why? Yeah. That's it. The entire world understands it,
[07:19:56] and yet they can't even fucking, they can't even do anything about it because America
[07:20:00] controls the entire world. Anyway, that's all I got for today, folks. Love you all and
[07:20:12] I'll see you tomorrow as always, okay? Don't get it twisted.
[07:20:19] Peace, everybody. Bye-bye.
[07:20:32] Stunning road by introduction, starting off the day.
[07:20:41] All the chatter's tricklin' in, I'll sell people hay
[07:20:49] Sonny Los Angeles, California says for son
[07:20:57] Stunlock to the, stunlock to the top, it's just begun
[07:21:05] Cause there is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming
[07:21:17] There is again a sun is streaming, a sun is streaming
[07:21:27] Leave you in a Chinese train, Tehran kind of place.
[07:21:36] Sun in as many channels, giving greening's grace.
[07:21:44] Zoran winning NYC, walk two back with the force.
[07:21:52] The Rogan of the left to me, a dumb combo still on course
[07:22:01] The Charlie Kirk assassination, the fear and online show
[07:22:08] Gave full fucking years of this, nothing more to know
[07:22:14] Doing fun stuff tomorrow, throw PBS up on the screen
[07:22:23] A man made for reaction brought to you by this life's dream
[07:22:32] Cause there he is again, the sun is streaming
[07:22:39] The sun is streaming
[07:22:42] There he is again, the sun is streaming
[07:22:49] The sun is streaming
[07:22:54] Kacked out of the DNC, a railroad march looked good
[07:23:00] Commed in the propaganda to shut down people's throats
[07:23:06] CBS Israeli news, a coup, a regime falls
[07:23:14] A full blown fascist takeover and still the duty calls
[07:23:22] Total radicalization coming out to sea
[07:23:30] The system where he'll always fail, it's up to you and me
[07:23:38] All these daily streams, whether short or whether long
[07:23:46] I've held millions of people, keep it moving right along
[07:23:53] Cause there he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[07:24:04] There he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[07:24:14] But hey, what can you say?
[07:24:18] And that's BBS for you
[07:24:21] But he'll play games real soon
[07:24:24] Just you wait
[07:24:28] Say hey, what can you say?
[07:24:31] And that's BBS for you
[07:24:34] But he'll move on real soon
[07:24:37] Just you wait
[07:24:42] What can you say?
[07:24:44] And that's BBS for you
[07:24:46] Well, pull your lungs real soon, just you wait
[07:24:51] Shadadada, shadadada, shadadadadadada
[07:24:55] What can you say, hey, that's PBS for you
[07:24:59] But he'll do Jeff Ice real soon, just you wait
[07:25:06] But hey, what can you say, hey, that's PBS for you
[07:25:12] Brought on by viewers like you, just you wait, just you wait