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07-21-2026 · 7h 08m

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[00:08:30] but they'll have to compete with the digitally-brewed world's new rising star,
[00:08:34] far-left activist Hassan Pika.
[00:08:37] What I really want is whether it's social media influencers
[00:08:40] or Twitch, YouTube, like Hassan Pika,
[00:08:43] or other kind of promoters...
[00:08:45] Second place for Hassan Pika!
[00:09:17] We must always maintain revolutionary up and we must always continue to organize.
[00:09:26] We must always continue to agitate because the quicker we can create enough pressure
[00:09:33] that causes the American state to re-calculate its suicide pack with Israel,
[00:09:38] the quicker we can save as many Palestinian lives possible.
[00:09:47] I hope you're having a fantastic evening, afternoon, and no matter where you are in the world of
[00:10:10] on the sun by the end of the thousand on broadcast come to you live from sunny
[00:10:17] Galliportia Los Angeles folks were live and alive and I hope all the boys girls
[00:10:20] and Envy's are having a fantastic one because today's a beautiful day today's
[00:10:24] a wonderful day today is Tuesday that's right it's Tuesday it's news day
[00:10:32] Tuesday, you already know what it is. It's wartime, baby. War. Please tell me suits are just an
[00:10:42] autistic hyperfixation and you're gonna get back to tank top soon. No, suits are an autistic
[00:10:47] hyperfixation. But also, I will not be, I will not be getting back to tank tops anytime soon,
[00:10:56] maybe in the future, who knows. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, boys, girls and MBs,
[00:11:01] Uh, it's 80 degrees in sunny here in stolen Tonga land, Los Angeles, California.
[00:11:07] The costume designer went through your suits.
[00:11:10] So I hear his own diapers got sued autism now.
[00:11:13] His words, not nine.
[00:11:14] Hi, hello, I'm Kathleen.
[00:11:16] I'm a costume designer, seamstress and overall wardrobe person based out of Toronto.
[00:11:20] I work primarily with dancers, musicians and others who are live performers to help build
[00:11:26] out their desires and needs in garments and to move to the world with ease.
[00:11:31] as well. That's very important. What makes me different than a regular stylist? I would say it's
[00:11:35] because I'm a costume designer mostly. I have a theater degree which is essentially an abstract
[00:11:40] art history degree and a political science degree where I research labor movements and political
[00:11:46] unrest through the lens of fashion for the shows that I was designing for. Fashion is politics
[00:11:52] and it always has been and always will be. Alright, I'm sold already.
[00:11:55] What is this? You see Valkyrie's IG post by Schumer University, they were never going
[00:12:02] to let you do, they were never going to let you teach debate classes. I was a professor,
[00:12:08] Clive were asking me, I had the best time, I wish I took more photos. Wait, what, why,
[00:12:11] Why are you saying?
[00:12:17] What does this have to do with debate classes?
[00:12:26] Plus I wasn't going to do debate class anyway.
[00:12:30] Fashion and politics are intertwined.
[00:12:31] I'm hooked.
[00:12:32] So I approach dressing as an abstract form of communication.
[00:12:35] That's my job.
[00:12:36] But yeah, if I was to style Hasan Piker,
[00:12:38] these are the things that I would add to his wardrobe.
[00:12:40] wardrobe. He's already a good dresser. Like he's not completely without help.
[00:12:44] Okay.
[00:12:45] He's a stylish person. He's a Leo man. So he doesn't need like astronomical help.
[00:12:51] But yeah, I think I would focus more on adding accessories to his wardrobe.
[00:12:55] Oh, I made this. So as you can see, he's got a wide range of suits, different colors.
[00:13:00] He's not without cause. I love the seafoam green suit over here. Fabulous.
[00:13:06] Love purple. Great. He knows how to put on a tie.
[00:13:09] He knows how to dress himself as an adult man. So he's not without without help
[00:13:13] I lean into patterns are smaller and more on Nate and where two patterns from the Ottoman Empire such as Paisley and these blue and red
[00:13:20] Diamonds over here. These are really beautiful
[00:13:22] But I love how abstract the middle tie is and it's sort of and the sort of etchings look like movement in sand to me
[00:13:28] It's very looks Egyptian. It looks beautiful
[00:13:31] And that's how ornate florals as well that are like a smattering. What is this pay chatter at take talk, bro?
[00:13:38] This is fire. This is really good far away. I need more. She's saying I need more vintage ties, which is right
[00:13:44] I do and also notice how I'm wearing
[00:13:48] Notice how I'm already wearing a pattern tie. I mean this one. I love I love this this one
[00:13:53] I love to I love all these ties super intricate when you get yeah, I paid her. I've heard her 50 grand, dude
[00:13:59] This is this is the new meta. I'm paying tiktokers to also
[00:14:02] So, I'm paying TikToks to also make positive TikToks about me. Just like, I didn't even
[00:14:10] get to the personal news today, which I'm going to be getting into in a second, which
[00:14:13] kind of ties back to paid propaganda. Okay. I got, I got snapped by one of the most iconic
[00:14:20] photographers of all time for an upcoming segment that I have in a, a, you know, very
[00:14:30] famous, uh, outlet as far as personal news, just, and, and I had to take my shirt off
[00:14:37] for it and I wasn't feeling very confident, but you know, I had to do it cause like this
[00:14:41] person is genuinely one of the most iconic, probably the most iconic photographer of all
[00:14:46] time.
[00:14:47] And I will also say this, they brought the meat pick.
[00:14:56] I will not be revealing who it is and what outlet it's for,
[00:15:01] but, and I will not be revealing anything else,
[00:15:03] but they had the meat pick.
[00:15:08] Printed.
[00:15:15] I love that.
[00:15:16] All right, this is where it's fun, funky and fresh.
[00:15:18] It's really important to keep the symbolism
[00:15:20] of the suit in his dressing because it's
[00:15:22] going to be a community where staff-
[00:15:24] Okay, we've moved beyond this is this is wildness. I mean, that's crazy. I was thinking maybe like,
[00:15:33] like there's different kinds of jackets, right? There's like the smoking coat, the frock,
[00:15:39] but this is like, I don't know what's going, this is costume territory.
[00:15:42] That's addressing your status matters. Therefore, if he still follows the rules of wearing a suit and
[00:15:49] tie, like a tie thing around his neck, then he can subvert the norm, make a statement with his
[00:15:53] accessories. So, start off, I would lean into the materials and motifs that labor unions and
[00:15:58] physical laborers utilize in their uniforms, so such as like twill. The metal tie is super cool,
[00:16:04] but I would not suggest doing an actual tie for anything where he's walking around. I'd probably
[00:16:09] switch it to a bow tie, but the chainmail and the grommets are these are all that are used
[00:16:14] while making workwear. It's very heavy duty. The bottom right is good, but I don't like the big
[00:16:19] button. This gold cap for the tie that you could use on so many different ties. I think it looks
[00:16:24] really good with like the looks like a silk but it's one of those like very textured silks. I love
[00:16:29] those. The sujecan on the top here is very nice for more formal events but I want to do the whole
[00:16:35] thing for political events. Maybe just throwing a closure like just this little thingy up here
[00:16:41] would be really nice on a more traditional cut suit or have the nice textured material on a more
[00:16:49] traditionally cut suit. This is beautiful, but I think it would scare the conservatives.
[00:16:53] Although we've got an example of indigenous artwork, indigenous beadwork specifically.
[00:16:57] That's dope. The indigenous beadwork is dope.
[00:16:59] The indigenous artist to commission some beautiful beads on the ties, which exactly
[00:17:02] he is and what he stands for.
[00:17:03] The metal thing that you put on the ties seems kind of crazy too. This is like,
[00:17:08] this is above and beyond. I mean, the whole point is I have to look a little bit more conservative.
[00:17:12] In the bottom right, we've got a double breasted coat that's made of a twill or cotton blend,
[00:17:16] and you can see the wear in it. A double-breasted suit is very formal, but the juxtaposition
[00:17:21] of having formal cuts in suits with more informal materials like linen or cotton drill or hell,
[00:17:29] like more softer materials. That's what I really want. He needs to wear more soft material.
[00:17:33] I think what I need to elevate my game with is, uh, I already have the tie bar, right? So I need a
[00:17:39] one of the neck bars. I already have a tie clip. I always have a tie clip. I always keep that thing
[00:17:45] on me, right? But what I need is, uh, is one of the, uh,
[00:17:52] I'm running out of time already, but these are some of my favorites. Uh,
[00:17:55] zipper tie, very cool. Debra's and Susan's and the mothers would love this.
[00:18:01] That's a bit much. I would only do it with a metal zipper, not a plastic
[00:18:06] zipper. Plastic is very capital. This one's good. As a material,
[00:18:10] metal is very socialist as a material. This is fucking nuts.
[00:18:15] this. Oh my God, this is beautiful. This is beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful.
[00:18:20] That is a no for me. Look, to each their own, you know what I mean? But the zipper tie is
[00:18:25] definitely going to be a no for me. I do like a bandana tied around your neck as a tie. I've seen
[00:18:30] some things where people use necklaces to end a bandana and they wrap it around and makes a really
[00:18:35] cool tie. Again, could reference Latin American labor workers in the US. Can you go into pocket
[00:18:40] Square. No, this tie is one of my absolute favorites. It's so beautiful with the they
[00:18:46] accordion style. So yeah, no, that ties in. This is a little bit of a wild card. This
[00:18:50] wrap here. I think something like this would be really beautiful if his family has like
[00:18:56] a story that they want to tell like something like that. That could like wrap around him
[00:19:00] as he's doing work. It could give you some sort of like safety might be a nice little
[00:19:08] touch. Bro, you look dated. They'll think it's weird. Yeah, I'm wearing a this is my most
[00:19:13] conservative suit. You should be wearing stripes. Stripes are the dominant pattern in workwear
[00:19:17] and labor unions. While Hassan is a self-professed rich kid, I wouldn't put him in like a blue
[00:19:21] collar overalls or cosplay as a union worker wouldn't do that. I would instead utilize
[00:19:26] the motifs from said groups into the formal attire that Hassan now has to wear to be taken
[00:19:32] seriously in politics. I love stripes. Stripes are great. I'm wearing stripes right now.
[00:19:37] The suit up top, I'm not sure if he has something like this
[00:19:40] or in his wardrobe, but I would add it.
[00:19:41] He looks good in maroon and like aubergine,
[00:19:43] like a really deep, rich purples,
[00:19:45] similar to this brown, more browns.
[00:19:47] This red crossbody sort of satchel apron thing
[00:19:51] is really cool.
[00:19:52] I wear something similar as a wardrobe person,
[00:19:54] as a wardrobe bunch.
[00:19:55] So I think that maybe if he's door knocking
[00:19:57] and has stuff to hand out,
[00:19:58] like something like this,
[00:20:00] when he's actually physically out on the streets.
[00:20:02] Yeah, this fit is, this fit is the,
[00:20:04] I'm taking someone's healthcare away fit.
[00:20:06] the DSA, I believe. I think it would look really cute if he got like a little tie made
[00:20:12] with the rows and the leaves, just a little red one. I think that that would be really
[00:20:15] beautiful. Okay. So this is stuff I found on eBay and Poshmark.
[00:20:18] Oh, this tie, this tie is beautiful. Very modern empire. Oh, so I don't know what, unfortunately,
[00:20:27] an Apple watch. Okay, I'm back in. I'm back in. I'm back in. I'm back in. I'm back in
[00:20:31] on all fronts. Okay, I'm locked in. Everything here is fire. Okay, we're back in. She lost
[00:20:40] me for a little bit, but the wardrobe wench brought me back in. Okay. That is, that's
[00:20:47] incredible. And everything here is incredible.
[00:20:51] So I would do like a Seiko necklace. Absolutely. Seiko is a really good respected brand. It's
[00:20:57] not like a Rolex like I know Rolex is respected but say because a lot cooler
[00:21:01] here we've got a Soviet silver tie clip and it even has the hammer and sickle
[00:21:07] right here in the in the exact I got the USR type clip right now I think that
[00:21:11] this pink would look really good with that C-Fone green suit that he has this
[00:21:15] is stunning this is on eBay somewhere don't buy it let him buy it but yeah
[00:21:19] these are all Soviet tie clips aside from the bottom right is a New York state
[00:21:24] education tie clip. I believe that one's also a bottom is a train tie clip because you know who likes
[00:21:31] trains socialists and you know who also likes trains people with autism. So this is a socialist
[00:21:36] autistic tie clip. That's the greatest tie clip I've ever laid my eyes on. And last but not least,
[00:21:43] you're gonna hate you for this, but you need to buy compression stockings. You're over 30. You gotta
[00:21:46] buy compression stockings. I heard them too. Here's my work cited. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's
[00:21:51] crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. I do have compression stockings though,
[00:21:56] but not Argyle. I don't like Argyle. As a customer, she's going to know how to source stuff. That was
[00:22:02] my major. That was fire. I do wish you could offer a higher rise pants as someone. Yes, I do.
[00:22:20] you. The problem is it just falls off my pants are higher rise. Like the pants I'm wearing
[00:22:27] currently are double-tweeted and they're higher rise pants.
[00:22:31] Anyway, all right, all right, all right, where was it? Oh, yeah, I already said it. I had
[00:22:46] a big photo shoot this morning. PBS logo on a tie clip. Next merch shop. Make you have
[00:23:01] him. Please and thank you. That seems like a dope idea, but we're working on something
[00:23:05] with the PBS logo. Don't worry. Um, yeah, personal news, uh, you know, got flicked up,
[00:23:13] Flicked up and not only did I get flicked up, but also I I went and I played a little bit of
[00:23:21] With a little bit of basketball got a little bit of sun
[00:23:26] Big day today, uh, you know situation monitoring all that good stuff. We're going to get into it
[00:23:32] And more let's blast off. Let's get started zoran versus bb. Who thieves back in
[00:23:39] Hex if hearing situation monitor a Arizona primary Kai Newkirk
[00:23:50] I'm doing photo shoots
[00:23:56] Vacation Aussie tomorrow get in now
[00:24:00] Switch.tv slash Hassanavi.
[00:24:06] Finstripe, Suka, Hassanavi looking like a Yakuza character.
[00:24:09] This is my evil suit.
[00:24:10] This is the one where I look like an evil guy.
[00:24:14] Do I have a blast off meme, please?
[00:24:17] You can go blast it again.
[00:24:21] I don't care about that.
[00:24:24] Shush on the DL.
[00:24:26] Okay. Everybody calm down. Putin, Apologists. Check donations. Bill, love you. Putin, Apologists,
[00:24:39] wait, why? Why am I, what, what did I, what did I do now? Is it the vacation? Is that
[00:24:50] I like what did I is it the pinstripe suit?
[00:24:56] What is the what is the Putin apologism?
[00:24:59] Apologist accusation coming from now.
[00:25:03] You look like you love capitalism and love exploiting workers.
[00:25:06] I do.
[00:25:07] I do.
[00:25:08] It's my favorite thing.
[00:25:14] Haha.
[00:25:14] I didn't think you would respond.
[00:25:15] I'm just messing around.
[00:25:16] I love you.
[00:25:20] What's sanatorium are you going to?
[00:25:26] Oh, yeah, I did see the old people falling for AI, the Kentucky 4th Congressional district thing.
[00:25:33] Um, you got curbed again?
[00:25:37] Okay, I got it. I got it. Dean is getting curbed. All right, hold on.
[00:25:42] I'm a shipping magnate. I'm a shipping magnate. That's why I look this way. Okay. I look exactly how an international shipping magnate would look like.
[00:25:49] Magnate would look like. Obviously, this is obviously a very sad time for international
[00:25:59] shipping magnates such as myself and many in this community obviously know that too because
[00:26:05] now a second straight is potentially on the verge of being blocked. We're going to get
[00:26:09] into that in a second after I blast off. So greetings from three arrows. Hesa Papa, thank
[00:26:26] you for the raid. And greetings, greetings from three arrows. Wait, is Hesa Papa three
[00:26:35] arrows? Three arrows says hi. The shipping community is getting hit hard today. Yes,
[00:26:47] Hesa Papa community, three arrows, shout out to everybody. For those of you who don't know who
[00:26:53] are just tuning in, this is a international shipping magnate community where we talk about commerce.
[00:27:00] Why not talking about Indian protest? I talked about it yesterday and why not talking about Indian protest right now?
[00:27:07] I don't know maybe because it's been 26 minutes since I started the fucking broadcast, dude
[00:27:13] Holy shit, I'm with the cockroach movement. Okay. I'm with you all the way
[00:27:20] What the fuck is happening?
[00:27:30] It's also strange because like why what do you think I'm like in the pocket of fucking
[00:27:39] the Modi government or something like you think it's not you think it the protest movement
[00:27:45] and police brutality in India is not something that I'm invested in that I would talk about
[00:27:48] I don't understand because they don't even just come in and they're like like Indian
[00:27:53] Hassanabbi has don't just come in and they're like hey can you please talk about this they
[00:27:56] go why are you refusing to talk about this and it's always so strange because it's
[00:28:00] like, why do you, do you think I would just like purposely avoid talking about it? What the fuck?
[00:28:05] I covered it yesterday.
[00:28:13] Yesterday, I was in the process of my government making moves to arrest me, okay? And there were
[00:28:20] chatters in here yelling at me for not immediately switching over to cover the, the protests happening.
[00:28:26] Where you going on vacation big dog bro? Why would I tell you that man, please? I
[00:28:34] Love you guys, but you know, I gotta I gotta spend some time with my family, you know
[00:28:48] What is this more articles on your take on now in the college Democrats event want me to send you the links
[00:28:53] Are we moving on from that?
[00:28:55] There you go one about Cuba new report denounces Havana. Yeah, I saw this one yesterday
[00:29:02] Every every couple of every couple of months
[00:29:06] People will
[00:29:08] Every couple of months there will be think think pieces that refuse to think for some weird reason about how
[00:29:16] My my initial assessment of the People's Republic of China is that it's not like an overall burden or a bad
[00:29:22] country that exists on the planet and then everyone will write articles about how I'm actually basically Adolf Hitler, perhaps worse than Adolf Hitler.
[00:29:32] Like liberals lose their mind when you don't automatically go, yeah, Lenin, Mao Zedong, these are complex great men of history.
[00:29:40] And, you know, their contributions, their contributions to history are major, okay?
[00:29:52] And as complex individuals, obviously, they've done some things that are objectively positive
[00:30:00] or progressive, progressive in the same exact way that the American Revolution was progressive,
[00:30:05] but then also horrible as well, horrible mismanagement.
[00:30:15] One of the funniest things that I have seen,
[00:30:18] One of the funniest things that I've seen is people just basically doing the thing where they agree
[00:30:26] with my assessment of a situation, but they'll bring it up as like criticism or they're like,
[00:30:31] even the Chinese government actually says the cultural revolution was a disaster and the
[00:30:37] and the four-pest campaign was a disaster it's like yeah I know man I know
[00:30:46] that's I agree
[00:31:00] I don't know why you act like this is a new take
[00:31:07] It's so funny.
[00:31:16] National review wrote an article, excesses.
[00:31:20] Left mousey dong, right, his on by ground is twitch show.
[00:31:29] What 17D 100 wounded is the death toll, is the casualty toll that's like the official
[00:31:33] numbers from the American government thus far. Senator Rick Scott, Mao Zedong's dictator
[00:31:42] should be resolved with a dozen tens of millions of people we know as Sars-Schilds for Commies,
[00:31:45] but President dictator who is known for mass murder and causing one of the worst famines
[00:31:48] in human history is beyond the pale. This is the new face of the Democrat Party. It's
[00:31:53] so funny. I am not the face of the Democratic Party. And also, you're misrepresenting my
[00:31:59] analysis here, but it doesn't really matter. No one fucking believes any of this shit.
[00:32:04] Like, can you imagine making this the fucking fixture? Making Maoism the fixture, the main
[00:32:13] attack ad in the upcoming midterms. This is a gift, okay? This is a gift to the Democrats.
[00:32:22] Democrats, Democrats, you're fucking welcome. Okay. You're welcome. Let them fucking go.
[00:32:29] Yeah. These guys are all Maoists and then have the average American go, what the fuck
[00:32:33] is Mao Zedong? Who gives a shit? Okay. The idea that first of all, I'm not a Maoist.
[00:32:41] Like, it's so funny that they're like, they're like sincerely trying to make this, um, this,
[00:32:50] this Cold War era fear mongering a real thing in 2026, okay.
[00:33:02] And senators and everyone is like losing their minds over it.
[00:33:06] They're like, this is, they're, they're, they're licking their lips.
[00:33:10] like, yeah. Yeah, he fucking, he didn't sufficiently critique
[00:33:17] Mao Zedong. It's awesome. I mean, who cares? Whatever. Fuck it.
[00:33:24] Yeah, dude, I'm a Maoist. You got it. He wore a Zhongshan suit.
[00:33:34] He's he's actually a Maoist. Please don't talk about health
[00:33:37] care. Don't talk about Israel. Don't talk about the economy.
[00:33:40] me, please just talk about Mao Zedong. Yeah, good luck man. They love Mao now, holy shit.
[00:34:03] Even the vanguard was saying that this morning that you're a Maoist and wait what? Even the
[00:34:08] vanguard was saying that this morning that you are a malice and they weren't sure about that
[00:34:12] i'm a malice
[00:34:29] what the fuck is wrong with people bro
[00:34:31] Oh Jesus Christ is awesome. All right, whatever who gives this shit? God Americans, man
[00:34:40] Americans, what do you do? What do you do with Americans?
[00:34:44] What can you do with Americans? What?
[00:34:48] Just like yeah, I'm actually I do I follow Gonzalo thought it's true. I'm a shining past supporter
[00:34:54] You're ambiguous, so people will assume. I don't think there's any ambiguity about me
[00:35:06] not being a Mao. There's no, that's not a real thing. Okay. First of all, there are probably,
[00:35:13] as I said to Matt Taibbi, as I responded Matt Taibbi, there are probably 12 Maoists
[00:35:19] in the US currently and no peasant base to mobilize the ultra world to control every
[00:35:24] aspect of our lives from buying electricity, eroding regulations, genuinely an embarrassing
[00:35:27] take. They call you a larper than turn around and act like you're trying to mobilize the
[00:35:45] peasants to overthrow the U.S.? Yeah, what peasants?
[00:35:50] Anyway, yeah, this is it. The last time there was a malice formation in the United States
[00:36:05] of America, they were the Black Panthers. They were awesome for the record. They were great.
[00:36:11] But even then, it's more so just Marxist Leninism, like they were, they had a ML structure.
[00:36:22] I don't think that they were, yeah, I just, there's no, there is no, in the post-industrial
[00:36:30] revolution, in industrialized nations, in developed nations, in countries like the United
[00:36:36] States of America, there is no Maoist formation, right?
[00:36:40] there is, like one of the biggest differences that I would say with Maoism was the mobilization
[00:36:49] of the peasant class.
[00:36:54] And I guess like in modern China, the only aspect of, I mean, the modern China is not
[00:37:02] malice. Which is not even a controversial take. This is not a real thing. It was really fucked
[00:37:24] up when Mao did the Landlord, so that's why Fox News should look up Mao Zedong Landlords
[00:37:27] and tell his viewers about it. Yeah. In any case, I think you just need to tweet. I'm
[00:37:36] not a Malish. Just I just like the suits. God forbid guys style I got. No, I'm not going
[00:37:40] to do that because people are going to be like, see, he's, he's, uh, trying to distance
[00:37:44] himself from Malism because he's, he knows he got God. It's like, who gives a shit?
[00:37:49] fucking who cares? Move on. Also, it looks good. So the
[00:37:59] Zhongshan suits will stay on.
[00:38:10] Mamdani has advanced to Deng Xiaoping thought while Piker is still stuck defending Mao. Wait.
[00:38:15] What the fuck? If anything, I advise Dong Xiaoping thought way more than Mum Donnie does. This is
[00:38:26] crazy. I mean, this is a joke. He's memeing. It's actually not a fucking bad joke. I'll be honest.
[00:38:31] I hate to give that to him. I hate to give that to him, but, you know, he's, that's actually not bad.
[00:38:41] bad. It's actually not bad at all. Yeah. How come nobody ever, how come nobody ever,
[00:38:53] when I wear these suits, nobody ever gives me respect as an international shipping magnate
[00:38:57] who loves commerce? Like now I'm wearing, now I'm fucking wearing the power suit and
[00:39:05] nobody ever thinks, oh, Hasan is a fucking factory owner capitalist. How come it only
[00:39:11] goes in one direction. I wear the Zhongshan suit and everyone's like, well, this guy's
[00:39:14] a Maoist, clearly, but I wear the fucking power suit. Nobody knows that I actually just
[00:39:20] want to do business in the beautiful city state of Singapore.
[00:39:27] That's right. That's what I want to do. That's what my dream is.
[00:39:36] Just tell him you follow the three principles of the people which were enlightened by the
[00:39:40] father of the Chinese nation, Dr. Sun Yat-sen. That's why you wear the Zhongxian. Yes.
[00:39:58] Yes, Kaia is a principled malice. That's the only person that I know. That's the only person that
[00:40:03] that I know that is a principled Maoist. Everybody else is phony and a larper, okay? Everyone
[00:40:10] else is phony. Everyone else is a larper. Only Kai is a principled Marxist-Leninist,
[00:40:17] Maoist who follows, who is going to bring back. Kai is going to bring back the Cultural
[00:40:28] revolution. Anyway, where was I? Where was I? Does it change your Iran War predictions?
[00:40:42] What happens to our beautiful Lucas drones now?
[00:40:44] We've developed our seven portable AI interceptor system designed specifically for low altitude
[00:40:49] airspace security. Okay, you want to know what happens to our beautiful Lucas drones anyway?
[00:40:53] I need you guys to understand something that's very funny about the Lucas drones.
[00:40:58] the fucking Lucas drones.
[00:41:00] Did you guys know that there's a subscription?
[00:41:04] So the only difference between a Lucas drone and a Shahid
[00:41:06] is that it's way more expensive
[00:41:08] and it has a Starling on top of it, right?
[00:41:12] So because it has the Star Shield system,
[00:41:15] every Lucas drone that is sent,
[00:41:18] every Lucas drone that is launched
[00:41:20] has a fucking Starlink adapter on top of it.
[00:41:25] And therefore every time they launch one of those goddamn shothead drones on the American side
[00:41:35] We are paying Elon Musk money a subscription
[00:41:49] In that fucking nuts
[00:41:55] Anyway, most counter drone systems need a full crew and 30 minutes to set up.
[00:42:10] By the way, this is what I was talking about, like the Chinese TikToks about like drone
[00:42:14] warfare, anti-drone warfare is pretty crazy because you can buy all of this stuff and
[00:42:24] It's like readily available in the marketplace, I guess.
[00:42:27] I don't even understand how, but...
[00:42:31] This one needs one person in 30 seconds.
[00:42:35] Equipped with a high definition camera,
[00:42:37] it offers a longer viewing rate.
[00:42:39] It can lock onto targets in five seconds.
[00:42:42] With a maximum speed of 420 kilometers per hour,
[00:42:46] the interception process is fully resistant
[00:42:48] to electromagnetic interference.
[00:42:50] R7 achieves an interception success rate of up to 90%.
[00:42:54] Lightweight design, rapid deployment,
[00:42:56] fast and precise interception.
[00:42:59] Introducing our self-developed R7 portable.
[00:43:03] Incredible work.
[00:43:04] I still don't understand why the firewall allows this stuff
[00:43:06] while fire art ownership is practically illegal.
[00:43:10] I mean, I don't know if they sell this in China.
[00:43:13] I think they sell this in fucking,
[00:43:15] I think this is the Chinese,
[00:43:18] The Chinese manufacturer is selling this in the western market. They're marketing this to Ukraine, Russia, and whoever else will purchase it.
[00:43:38] I don't think they're, I don't think this is as easily,
[00:43:42] I don't think you can just like buy this in China with ease.
[00:43:44] Like this is, first of all, it's AI ad in English.
[00:43:48] This is not for the Chinese market at all.
[00:43:52] It's kind of like those,
[00:43:54] it's kind of like those ladies that'll be like,
[00:43:56] oh, do you want a tractor supply?
[00:43:59] Like come to the Guangdong Industrial District
[00:44:03] for the best tractor supplies.
[00:44:05] And it's like, that's not,
[00:44:07] that person is not trying to sell this to the fucking Chinese market.
[00:44:13] They're doing direct marketing campaigns in the United States of America.
[00:44:28] Looks like it's 7k. That's crazy. Anyway, as far as like the amount of stuff goes,
[00:44:37] It's very silly. Uh, but, you know, Republicans are, are having fun with it. I guess where
[00:44:42] they're like, dude, this guy is, uh, this guy said, uh, Mao Zedong is a, is a great man of history.
[00:44:50] Uh, and, you know, had
[00:44:54] What is this debunker lies, dude? Why do you want me to watch this fucking psychotic freak?
[00:45:00] Let's see now from what's wrong with you, man. This has 1000 views in seven hours. We don't have to
[00:45:07] We don't have to literally watch every time a fucking freak on the internet loses their goddamn minds
[00:45:15] Okay
[00:45:17] Lefty he's lazing it. I know you shut the fuck up. Who cares wedgewood pole francesca. Hong at 38 percent. Let's go
[00:45:23] Let's talk about real shit, please
[00:45:29] I'm about to be a lefty losing it. They then send they send it because you always click it, bro. I know I know I know
[00:45:35] stupid. It's stupid. Okay, we are going to get to the real world and talk about real
[00:45:43] world news, which is Red Sea Blockade. We're talking about the Houthis. Okay.
[00:45:57] This morning, new fears before with Iran could be expanding. With the Iran-backed
[00:46:02] Houthis from Yemen now threatening to block Saudi oil from transiting another key waterway,
[00:46:09] this one connecting the Red Sea to the Indian Ocean.
[00:46:13] With traffic in the Strait of Hormuz already slowing to a crawl, cutting off the Red Sea
[00:46:18] could cause oil prices to spike even further, and gas prices now more than $4 a gallon as
[00:46:25] well.
[00:46:26] Yes, as overnight, the US launching the 10th straight night of strikes on Iran, while Iran-
[00:46:35] Listen, as you guys know, I am an international commerce giant, a shipping magnate.
[00:46:45] I love, I love commerce, I love free markets, the free of the market, the free of the people.
[00:46:52] And a part of my belief system, a fundamental plank of my belief system, is the idea that
[00:47:00] all straights must be open at all times.
[00:47:04] So obviously, this is, as we are all a part of this international shipping, import, export
[00:47:10] community here, this is devastating.
[00:47:13] Because now, a second straight is on the verge of being blocked.
[00:47:19] He also had a lot of movement in Yemen is now retaliating against Saudi Arabia.
[00:47:26] Those cufflinks make it look a lot more believable.
[00:47:28] Yes, yes, look, cufflinks, do you see that?
[00:47:34] Would someone, would someone who is not an international commerce giant, was someone
[00:47:41] like that not?
[00:47:43] I mean, would someone have cufflinks if they didn't love international commerce?
[00:47:58] For what is worth, I waited for you for your stream today, see some actual meta news, there
[00:48:02] was nothing worth consuming from domestic US media.
[00:48:06] Launcher strikes far beyond its borders.
[00:48:11] sirens echoing here in Jordan, six missiles and five drones intercepted overnight.
[00:48:18] This after three U.S. service members were killed or presumed dead in that Iranian attack
[00:48:23] on a U.S. base in Jordan late last week.
[00:48:27] Video circulating online shows that massive explosion, a fireball erupting, debris raining
[00:48:33] down.
[00:48:34] Two of the soldiers killed identified as 19-year-old Private Isabella Gonzalez of Texas and 25-year-old
[00:48:41] First Lieutenant Tyler James Thean of Hawaii. In addition to those fatalities, 100 service
[00:48:49] members have been wounded in just the past few weeks, although most returned to duty.
[00:48:54] SENTCOM has also identified the soldier killed in Iraq during a controlled detonation of
[00:49:00] an Iranian drone. His Army Sergeant Michael Swinton, 30 years old of Fayetteville, North
[00:49:05] Carolina, the father of two young children.
[00:49:09] And thus far, these US strikes have not deterred the Iranians, and there are questions as to
[00:49:13] what President Trump will do to try to end this five month war he predicted would be
[00:49:18] over in a matter of weeks with.
[00:49:21] And Martha, Secretary Hegseth and the chairman of the joint.
[00:49:23] I truly do not know where we go from here.
[00:49:26] I've talked about this extensively every single day for the last 150 days at this point.
[00:49:38] And even before Operation Epic Fury started, I kept explaining over and over again that
[00:49:44] this would be devastating.
[00:49:46] And plenty of much smarter people have talked about the escalation trap, shout out to Robert
[00:49:54] A. Pape, shout out to Mir Shimer, and numerous other academics that looked at the situation
[00:50:06] and thought that going along with Israel's interests here would be devastating for America.
[00:50:15] America has deteriorated its force projection capabilities. America has betrayed its allies,
[00:50:22] its key allies in the region, left them defenseless.
[00:50:29] Countries all around the world are taking a cold hard look at their security relationships,
[00:50:35] security contracts which don't necessarily defend these nations from hostile foreign adversaries,
[00:50:44] but instead turn them into missile sponges. That's the new meta. That's the lesson that we have
[00:50:52] taught the rest of the world. Meanwhile, after 130 days or so, given the crisis that was
[00:51:05] imminent with the global oil markets. The United States of America decided to go back to a ceasefire
[00:51:14] pattern and try to deal with Iran through diplomacy. Many people, myself included, were very skeptical
[00:51:22] about America's interests. There were some others like Trita Parsi, for example, who were far more
[00:51:29] more positive about this deal, it turns out JD Vance and numerous other officials openly
[00:51:40] revealed that the MOU wasn't a real investment in a longstanding piece, but instead the memorandum
[00:51:49] of understanding was simply to get an extension.
[00:51:56] But the problem still remains, the American Strategic Petroleum Reserves are in critical
[00:52:00] levels, nearing 300 million barrels.
[00:52:04] Once it reaches below 300 million barrels, once it reaches 150 million barrels, it's
[00:52:09] over the salt caverns that these Strategic Petroleum Reserves are stockpiled inside of,
[00:52:16] will actually crater.
[00:52:18] There's a compounding effect once it gets to 150 million.
[00:52:23] These are the lowest levels since the 80s that we have seen.
[00:52:30] All signs point to a crisis that is imminent.
[00:52:33] America is going to inevitably have to stop exports, which will have dramatic consequences
[00:52:42] for Europe.
[00:52:45] Because the way that oil is traded in the international market as a commodity is a little
[00:52:52] bit more complex than people think it is, right? It's not like when we are, we're constantly
[00:52:58] refining oil and we're shipping it out. We already have extended contracts with other
[00:53:03] countries. America is an export country, right? America is an export, an oil exporting nation.
[00:53:09] We can stop those oil exports, but if we stop those oil exports in order to make sure we
[00:53:14] normalize our oil and gas prices here in the United States of America, we would basically
[00:53:19] destroy the European markets. We would destroy all these other markets that we're selling
[00:53:25] the oil to right now.
[00:53:28] So the likelihood that we will stop exports is, I mean, that's a real crisis. That's a
[00:53:37] real moment of panic for the rest of the world, right? Especially at a time when the Asian
[00:53:43] markets are heavily reliant on oil coming from the United States of America, because
[00:53:48] the Strait of Hormuz is closed, which is where they were getting the majority of their oil from.
[00:54:01] Then there's a separate crisis taking place here with Russia. Ukraine has successfully
[00:54:09] gained leverage with their additional strikes on critical oil and gas infrastructure inside of
[00:54:15] Russia, Ukraine has been able to, Ukraine has been able to pepper and strike Russian oil tankers,
[00:54:24] Russian gas tankers. This is heading down. This is basically making the pressure worse.
[00:54:33] It's actually feeding into the volatility in the international energy markets.
[00:54:45] A terrifying prospect.
[00:54:52] So knowing everything that we just talked about, which of course the American side is
[00:54:59] privy to this information as well, why are we still striking Iran?
[00:55:08] It doesn't make sense.
[00:55:10] Why have we not gotten back to the negotiations table?
[00:55:16] Why have we not realized that the only way out of this is diplomacy?
[00:55:20] Because if there's two methods here for the American side, you either get back, you beg
[00:55:27] the Iranians back to the negotiations process, which for the record, the hardliners have
[00:55:34] been vindicated over and over again.
[00:55:36] The hardliners were initially vindicated when America struck Iran, decapitated its leadership
[00:55:43] structure, and then the hardliners, the IRGC, took control over the situation.
[00:55:49] And through their mosaic defense system, they were able to fight back and claw back tremendous
[00:55:54] amounts of leverage by closing the Strait of Hormuz.
[00:55:58] That leverage is never going away.
[00:56:00] They will forever maintain this leverage.
[00:56:02] It makes no sense for the Iranians to give up this economic nuclear option that they
[00:56:13] now have at their disposal.
[00:56:16] It makes no sense.
[00:56:17] They fought for it.
[00:56:18] They bled for it.
[00:56:19] Why the fuck would they give it up?
[00:56:20] Of course, they're not going to give it up.
[00:56:25] And America understands that they're not going to give it up, which is part of the reason
[00:56:29] why the MOU itself didn't make a whole lot of sense, where I guess they just wanted a
[00:56:36] brief moment of respite so they can re-up, re-arm, and then go back to war.
[00:56:41] But Iran on the other side also had the same opportunity to re-arm, to rebuild.
[00:56:57] And therefore, America, Iran also is in a better position overall in every day that
[00:57:10] goes by, every day that goes by that this war continues, every day that goes by that
[00:57:15] the Strait of Hormuz is closed, every day that goes by where we're diving, digging
[00:57:22] deeper and deeper into our strategic petroleum reserves, Iran is gaining more leverage. And
[00:57:29] not only are they gaining more leverage, they're also moving certain chess pieces on the board
[00:57:36] to their own advantage as well. One of the things in the last nine days since the war resumed,
[00:57:42] one of the things that Iran has been able to do successfully is they shut off America's eyes and
[00:57:48] years that Israel was utilizing in the region by blowing up radar installations and blowing up
[00:57:54] the American early advanced warning systems in the entire region, right? They did this in Bahrain,
[00:58:01] Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia. They did this all around the region in the Gulf nations.
[00:58:08] The last piece of the puzzle was Jordan. So since the MOU fell apart, Iran has been
[00:58:15] continuously bombing installations and American assets in the Gulf countries that remain.
[00:58:21] But Iran has also put the crosshairs on Jordan in a way that they hadn't before.
[00:58:28] Because a lot of the American assets moved to Jordan because Jordan is the last line of defense
[00:58:33] for Israel. Jordan has a security relationship with Israel. Jordan has a lot of the
[00:58:39] the remaining anti-air defense systems in between Iran and Israel.
[00:58:47] And therefore Iran has been blowing up Jordanian installations now and blowing up American
[00:58:54] assets in Jordanian bases.
[00:58:59] Now a lot of people will look at that and go, why are they blowing up Jordan?
[00:59:02] This doesn't make sense.
[00:59:04] Well, part of the reason why they're blowing up Jordan is because they are threatening
[00:59:08] Israel. They're not just attacking Jordan for no reason. I know a lot of people are
[00:59:13] confused by this as they were initially when they were like, why are they blowing up Bahrain?
[00:59:17] Why are they blowing up the Gulf region? Aren't they supposed to be allies? It's like, no,
[00:59:22] of course not. These are nations that have a hostile foreign adversaries, military bases
[00:59:29] in military installations, of course they're going to blow them up.
[00:59:35] And Jordan has anti air defense systems that defend Israel.
[00:59:42] So blowing up those anti air defense systems in Jordan is a way for Iran to basically threaten
[00:59:49] Israel without bringing Israel back into the conflict.
[00:59:53] Israel has maintained a holding pattern since the MOU ended.
[00:59:58] They have said that this is a beneficial situation for them.
[01:00:02] America is the one that has to deal with Iran.
[01:00:04] They don't have to do anything.
[01:00:06] They're not risking their assets.
[01:00:08] They're not risking their troops.
[01:00:09] They're just sitting back and waiting, right?
[01:00:15] That's the Israeli side.
[01:00:17] There was a five-hour security conference that Benjamin Netanyahu put together just last
[01:00:22] night.
[01:00:24] obviously is very fearful about the Jordanian incursions, the Jordanian strikes, because,
[01:00:32] again, they obviously understand that Jordan plays a profoundly important role in Israel's security.
[01:00:45] And then to add on to the chaos, you now have the Houthis successfully forcing
[01:00:53] not one, but two Saudi ships to return back to their ports. This is one aspect of their blockade.
[01:01:04] The Houthis could also start threatening the Yanbu ports and the other ports that the Saudis
[01:01:11] utilize in order to get their oil tankers out. If they were to do that, they would effectively shut
[01:01:18] down all Saudi oil tankers, they would destroy the Saudi economy, they would destroy the
[01:01:26] rest of the Gulf's shipments of oil.
[01:01:31] They could strike the pipeline, the east-west pipeline that currently exists, that takes
[01:01:35] the oil from the refineries that are on the Persian Gulf side, that ships that oil directly
[01:01:42] to the Yambu port where that oil is then put into barrels and into tankers that will get
[01:01:50] out of the Bob Elmondib Strait. If they were to threaten the Yambu port, they could effectively
[01:01:56] shut down all Saudi oil shipments. This is a terrifying prospect. Now, I will say this,
[01:02:04] perhaps people will find this especially in this community a little bit controversial. I don't think
[01:02:10] I don't think it's a good bet to underestimate the Ansarallah movement.
[01:02:22] I think they're a wild card through and through.
[01:02:26] But I will say this, I don't think they have the necessary tools to keep up a blockade.
[01:02:33] I think that their forces have been treated fairly reliably in the last Operation Prosperity
[01:02:40] Guardian, tit for tat, where America basically had to pull the white flag of defeat and surrender
[01:02:48] and cut a side deal with the Houthis to no longer fight with the Houthis, to no longer
[01:02:55] bombs and on exchange for the Houthis, no longer hitting American naval assets.
[01:03:01] But I will say, I don't think they have the necessary supplies to keep up a major conflict.
[01:03:09] I don't know.
[01:03:12] But I suspect that's part of the reason why they've been so restrained.
[01:03:15] Maybe I'm wrong.
[01:03:17] But that's also part of the reason why it was very important for Saudi Arabia to ensure
[01:03:23] that there is no direct air travel between Tehran and Zana.
[01:03:30] Because if they were to open up, if they were to allow Iran to be able to send civilian
[01:03:38] shipments, like if the Saudis were to let up on their blockade on Yemen, all of a sudden
[01:03:50] Iran could potentially start shipping more and more missiles, drones, and things that
[01:03:57] the Houthis, I'm sure, need to re-up and re-arm.
[01:04:06] Having said that, for many of the international shippers, all you need is a couple ships that
[01:04:18] get hit by drones for them to decide this is too costly for us to ensure, because shipping
[01:04:25] is not just about the bravery of the actual captain, it's also about insurance.
[01:04:32] And most insurers are not going to, most insurers are just not going to insure ships
[01:04:38] if the Houthis are striking them, right? So that usually stops, that usually halts most
[01:04:46] commercial shipping. But yes, ships loaded with Saudi oil are now being turned around
[01:04:54] at Bab el-Mandeb. Saudi oil is no longer transiting the Strait of Hormuz or Bab el-Mandeb. If the five
[01:05:01] Red Sea ports start getting targeted, especially Yambu, which is the major Saudi port, it will
[01:05:06] become nearly impossible for Saudi Arabia to export oil and import dry goods via waterways.
[01:05:13] The only alternative in the absence of them striking the ports, because again, the Houthis have not,
[01:05:20] As far as I understand, they have yet to strike their ports. They have not struck their ports.
[01:05:24] They've just polled Saudi oil tankers to turn around. Two of them have this morning.
[01:05:30] The only other option for them in the absence of the Houthis striking their ports is to try to go
[01:05:36] through the Red Sea to go north, obviously. And from what I understand, within the Suez Canal,
[01:05:46] which obviously has limitations on these major oil tankers passing through it.
[01:05:51] One of the things that they do is very inefficient, but they'll dump the oil tankers,
[01:05:58] like they'll dump some of the oil on one side of the canal and then transit it by land,
[01:06:07] and then put the oil back in the tankers. Is a long convoluted and complex process
[01:06:13] that obviously adds a lot of time. It's very costly. It's very expensive. So many,
[01:06:22] many of the, yeah, they'll offload it and then they'll unload it one more time.
[01:06:27] But in order to basically, in order to, yeah, unload and then load the oil barrels,
[01:06:39] making it far, far less efficient of a process. It's just not going to happen.
[01:06:45] It's too costly. It's too inefficient. People would probably rather wait it out.
[01:06:51] So, Donald Trump is doing the classic Trump thing though, and he's apparently blaming
[01:07:20] Jordan for being struck
[01:07:22] They did slip something through in Jordan and if we had other operators, you know, would have not happened, unfortunately.
[01:07:32] But we, because we have the best equipment in the world, you know, we've stopped almost everything.
[01:07:37] But when you let other people do your job with the United States, we let other people do the job.
[01:07:42] And sometimes it doesn't work out so well. But they did slip something through in Jordan.
[01:07:49] Yeah, it's their fault. It's our weapons, by the way. So the new meta is pickaxe mountain.
[01:08:00] Pickaxe mountain is an even deeper nuclear facility. I guess it's like Israel is in
[01:08:07] Trump's ear again. Israel, I suspect the one that told Trump that if you strike pickaxe mountain
[01:08:17] with bunker buster bombs like that could, that would teach Iranians a lesson.
[01:08:25] It's unbelievably stupid. It's incredibly stupid, but the expectation from these morons
[01:08:36] is to get dumber and dumber. Trump says the US will be hitting pickaxe mountain in Iran
[01:08:41] pretty soon, very heavily, and there's nothing they can do about it. What can Trump realistically
[01:08:46] comes by striking the so-called pickaxe mountain where more than 13,000 US airstrikes over 40 days
[01:08:51] failed to destroy Iran's underground missile bases or stop it from continuing to launch
[01:08:55] missiles and drones. The strategy runs on delusion.
[01:09:09] It doesn't make any sense. None of it makes sense.
[01:09:16] It's funny they called the mountain notorious Israel believes are on move nuclear material inside of notorious pickaxe mountain site last year
[01:09:35] Also funny how much they're signaling the strikes ahead of time whatever's inside pickaxe mountain is probably out by now. No, I doubt it I
[01:09:40] I don't think they, I don't think they signal their strikes ahead of time because they, because they expect the things to be moved around. I suspect that if there's any nuclear materials inside of Pickaxe Mountain, they would probably try to, they would probably try to hit it if the Iranians were dumb enough to try to offload it or to ship it elsewhere.
[01:10:04] So, as I said yesterday, and I don't know why people refuse to recognize this, but a lot of people have not, a lot of people haven't really considered the unlikely scenario in which America basically destroys the previous nuclear,
[01:10:31] America has not tested the nuclear option, right? There's a taboo around it, the nuclear taboo.
[01:10:44] Let's say America decides to eviscerate the previous nuclear taboo. Now we're living in a
[01:10:52] totally new world. I think it's unlikely regardless. But what has not been considered here is
[01:10:58] whether or not this would actually stop Iran. I don't think I do not believe that this would
[01:11:09] stop Iran at all. Don't even joke, Vlad. I'm not joking. I mean, this is the final stage.
[01:11:18] You either send in ground troops, which are very unlikely and very costly, or you nuke.
[01:11:25] the nuclear option is the last option.
[01:11:29] I don't think America would do this, but I'm just saying,
[01:11:32] even if they were to do something so insane,
[01:11:34] there is no guarantee that Iran is going to stop
[01:11:38] if they were to actually nuke pickaxe mountain.
[01:11:44] Okay?
[01:11:47] Like, there is no guarantee of an Iranian surrender.
[01:11:50] If anything, they'll probably strike back extra hard.
[01:11:55] We've had a good 100 years where the nuclear taboo was not breached.
[01:12:02] The nuclear boundary was not penetrated, almost a good 100 years.
[01:12:07] We didn't make it 100 years, obviously.
[01:12:16] But as far as the strategic goals that we have, because America's goals here are obviously
[01:12:24] to force Iran to surrender. And in order to do that, they are using what remains of their
[01:12:30] military power to try to gain leverage, okay? Obviously, a big part of it is to attrit their
[01:12:37] striking capabilities, the Iranian striking capabilities to destroy their missile silos,
[01:12:42] their underground missile production facilities.
[01:12:45] And it's clear that they haven't actually seen a lot of success on that front. As a
[01:12:50] matter of fact, it has been a disastrous campaign. Okay? So far, it has been a disastrous campaign.
[01:13:02] Iran has only maintained its forceful posture in the region. It's gained leverage. It controls the
[01:13:07] Strait of Hormuz with relative ease. All of this stuff is really bad for America.
[01:13:14] America. So why would a nuke change the strategic goals for America? Why would that actually
[01:13:25] give the United States of America more leverage? It makes no sense. Not only is it not a guarantee,
[01:13:38] Not only is it not a guarantee that the utilization of a tactical nuke on Pickaxe Mountain will
[01:13:44] actually penetrate into the deep underground facility, but you're breaching this nuclear
[01:13:51] taboo for no reason whatsoever.
[01:13:53] There's no real success here.
[01:13:59] And on top of that, even if you were to, let's say, blow up the above ground facilities and
[01:14:04] evaporate them, okay?
[01:14:07] even if you were to maybe even penetrate the pickaxe mountain facilities, let's say, okay?
[01:14:17] This doesn't guarantee Iran's surrender at all. This doesn't give you leverage at all.
[01:14:29] So I don't understand what the fuck we're thinking here at all.
[01:14:38] Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm very skeptical of a tactical nuke causing Iranians to capitulate
[01:14:49] to American needs.
[01:14:53] I don't think there is some secret recipe here to end this war through military means.
[01:15:01] I think there's only one way to end this war.
[01:15:06] And that is through diplomacy.
[01:15:10] It's by conceding to Iran.
[01:15:12] And what is extra strange, what's extra strange about this whole process is that not only
[01:15:20] are not only are America's refusing to do that, but every day that this war continues,
[01:15:27] Iran maintains its leverage and actually gains more leverage because they're not stupid.
[01:15:35] They're not dumb. They understand America has a larger agenda here. They understand that America
[01:15:42] has broader responsibilities than Iran does. For Iran, it's an existential crisis. For Iran,
[01:15:49] it's a it's a matter of survival so they have to hold on the IRGC has to hold
[01:15:54] on the IRGC has to make it as costly as possible for america to wage this war
[01:16:00] but on the american side there are a million different responsibilities when
[01:16:04] you're the hegemonic superpower one of which is to maintain stability in the
[01:16:08] global oil markets the global energy markets and every day that iran controls
[01:16:14] the street of hormones and and uh... implements the blockade is a is a
[01:16:18] another day where things are getting worse in the global energy markets for everybody else.
[01:16:27] There's no guarantee that China will also keep ensuring the stability by cutting their oil demand.
[01:16:42] So far, they have done that.
[01:16:44] But there's no guarantee that they will continue doing it.
[01:16:53] You do realize that nuking a facility under 400 meters of rock won't really do anything,
[01:16:58] right? We're talking about something that isn't going to happen. I know, I know.
[01:17:03] I'm saying that too, okay? But what I'm also saying is even if you actually were to achieve some kind
[01:17:09] of strategic military goal in the unlikely scenario that they have a super secret bunker
[01:17:15] buster and a tactical nuke attached to this super secret bunker buster that we've never
[01:17:19] seen before that actually is able to penetrate deep underground through 400 meters of fucking
[01:17:25] granite. Okay, let's say that did take place. There is no guarantee that this stops the Iranians
[01:17:34] from continuing the mosaic defense structure and continuing to pummel every other regional actor
[01:17:41] continuing to hit forces of capital in the region too. They just last night hit an Amazon
[01:17:48] data center in Bahrain, right? And they've said that they're going to continue expanding on their
[01:17:55] strike targets to factor in American companies in the region and their assets in the region.
[01:18:04] So, there is no, there is no guarantee that that would stop.
[01:18:13] If anything, they would probably hit the refineries as well, extra hard.
[01:18:22] There isn't a weapon in existence capable of penetrating a facility like that, I, dude,
[01:18:25] I know.
[01:18:26] I'm saying that too.
[01:18:28] But I'm, but I'm also taking it once that further, let's say there is a super secret
[01:18:33] weapon that they haven't deployed yet and they deploy it this time. Even then, even if America
[01:18:40] achieved a strategic objective here, it still would not change the dynamic of this war. Do you
[01:18:47] Do you understand?
[01:18:50] I agree.
[01:18:51] I agree with you.
[01:18:55] Anyway.
[01:19:02] So did Iran actually hit the Amazon data center?
[01:19:06] Business reporters are ready to get a crash course on how insanely repressive the information
[01:19:09] environment of the Gulf is.
[01:19:10] It's way worse than Iran.
[01:19:12] For years I've heard journalists and even a former U.S. official marvel about how her
[01:19:15] medically sealed off the Gulf States really are when it comes to anything important. Yes.
[01:19:20] And to add to that problem, the White House has been notoriously absent from the conversation
[01:19:28] this time around as well. The New York Times daily actually did a whole report on it earlier
[01:19:33] today. I was listening to it where they talked about how the Pentagon realized that giving
[01:19:39] updates on the war efforts, giving periodic updates on the war efforts was actually a bad idea
[01:19:44] Because they're fucking losing. And they're, like this time around, post-MOU, they've stopped
[01:19:55] informing the public altogether. And their argument is, why would we tell Iran what they're
[01:20:00] successfully striking? We can't let them know that they're successfully striking. Well, if they
[01:20:04] are fucking striking those targets, they probably have satellite imagery to confirm that those
[01:20:09] targets were successfully struck. They're not lobbing them blindly. You know what I mean?
[01:20:14] So, that's bullshit. Iran knows what it's fucking striking.
[01:20:19] And Iran can obviously get confirmation. If they can literally strike with pinpoint accuracy,
[01:20:25] the bunkers where American assets are, if they can hit the hangers where American assets are,
[01:20:34] then they probably know they're not doing it blindly.
[01:20:37] They're not using readily available western commercial satellites. They're obviously clearly
[01:20:46] getting a more higher level of intelligence from either China or Russia. So that argument has been
[01:21:01] really stupid as well. Yeah, they're just getting their intel from the White House feed
[01:21:07] from Centcom. They're like, oh, we did it. Centcom notice. Centcom notice does. Yeah.
[01:21:25] Come on, man. Iran don't know shit. Jordan itself says there's no American base in their
[01:21:29] country. Yeah, that was very funny as well. The idea that the idea that there are no American
[01:21:36] military bases in Jordan, which is something that the King King Abdullah also said just
[01:21:42] last week. And then this week, like five days after that revelation, two Americans were
[01:21:50] killed in Jordan. How did that happen? I don't even know why they say shit like this. Also,
[01:21:58] some more fun stuff.
[01:22:00] Wall Street Journal reports that the Pentagon is reducing training and maintenance vital
[01:22:03] to military readiness because of the urgent budget shortfall caused by the Iran war.
[01:22:08] Great, great, things are looking great, okay?
[01:22:14] Things are going, oh so well.
[01:22:23] Finance Minister Bezal El-Smotrich, after the lengthy security discussion last night
[01:22:27] I said the state of Israel has no interest in joining the contained confrontation between
[01:22:30] Iran and the United States.
[01:22:31] The current situation is the best one for us.
[01:22:34] Oh, really?
[01:22:36] That's interesting.
[01:22:39] That's interesting.
[01:22:40] They said, no, not for me.
[01:22:44] They said, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're good.
[01:22:46] We're good.
[01:22:47] Interesting.
[01:22:48] So who are we fighting this for?
[01:22:54] The telegraph independently corroborating Washington Post story from two days ago to
[01:22:58] the White House is not being told about the scale of munition shortages.
[01:23:01] The Pentagon is hiding the scale of missile shortages from the White House insider's fear.
[01:23:06] The US president is under pressure to hit back at Iran after the deaths of three US service
[01:23:10] members over the weekend, but rumors are spreading across the administration that the Pentagon
[01:23:14] is concealing a shortage of interceptor missiles, which are needed to resume the war.
[01:23:19] There are also suggestions that the White House does not want to know about the scale
[01:23:23] of the shortfall, sharing bad news or realistic news doesn't seem to end well for anybody.
[01:23:27] An insider told the Telegraph, another said the culture of silence was causing problems
[01:23:31] for Pete Heggs at the US defense sector.
[01:23:33] Oh my God, this is literally the, the Politburo.
[01:23:38] This is on Iran.
[01:23:39] This is the fall of the USSR, dude.
[01:23:42] Straight up for all of the talk, for all of the talk, all these liberals have been talking
[01:23:49] shit.
[01:23:50] Okay.
[01:23:51] This right here, this right here is identical to what took place to a certain degree with
[01:23:59] Stalin in the USSR.
[01:24:01] Ironically it was one of the major problems that caused the mass famines during the failed
[01:24:07] attempt of industrialization in the countryside in China.
[01:24:12] When you have other actors up and down the command chain, refusing to tell you the truth
[01:24:19] because they're fearful of repercussions, you're fucked.
[01:24:30] Straight up.
[01:24:36] This is one of the biggest problems.
[01:24:45] Analysis by the Royal United Services Institute of Marsh Calculated the US and its allies
[01:24:48] had burned through more than 11,000 munitions in the first 16 days of the war and predicted
[01:24:54] they were a month away from running out. They were a month away from running out of critical
[01:25:01] munitions. Great work. This was the Washington Post report earlier a couple of days ago that
[01:25:15] said we do not have enough to safely sustain operations and I don't think the White House is aware of that.
[01:25:28] This is straight up follow the USSR moment right here for the United States of America.
[01:25:32] It's pretty wild watching this unfold in real time.
[01:25:38] And yes, Israel is to a large degree responsible for it because they pushed our dumbass president
[01:25:45] into taking action. And now they're just watching the dominoes fall from afar, ironically enough,
[01:25:53] even though they're far closer to the area of impact than we are. It's crazy. Now they're like,
[01:26:01] Nah, we're good. Really? You're good. Interesting. Interesting.
[01:26:15] This is America's paper tiger moment, okay? This is the United States of America's paper tiger
[01:26:22] moment. Far too extended. Far too extended.
[01:26:43] The Inuchi movie going to be made in the next 10 years about this? Yes.
[01:26:59] Real threats of the US now know that is mismanaged and vulnerable.
[01:27:04] I think people already knew this. I think people already knew this, but the difference is now it's
[01:27:09] confirmed. Like, I think our adversaries obviously knew this, but now our allies know it too,
[01:27:17] and that's very different. That's a different calculation. Other notable thing is that this
[01:27:22] is almost identical to how Lindsey Graham and other Russia hawks talked about Ukraine. This is
[01:27:25] so great. They'll do the fighting instead of us and weaken the enemy. Here the client state uses
[01:27:29] the superpower to fight is proxy war. Yeah.
[01:27:41] How is there no one in Trump's ear that's like, Mr. President, you have to pull back?
[01:27:47] I genuinely don't understand that. I actually am shocked. Like no European leaders are fucking
[01:27:54] out here being like, we should probably put an end to this, I just don't understand it.
[01:28:11] Bezelos Mothrich is saying this in English, that they have no investment in continuing this war,
[01:28:18] right? Bezelos Montage is actively running around being like, we're staying out of this,
[01:28:26] we're good. But also the intel that Trump is receiving from the Israeli side that seemingly
[01:28:34] is the only piece of intelligence that he listens to, he's a fucking idiot, okay? Partially due
[01:28:42] to the boomer philosemitism, I think, that these old guys, these old guys are all about
[01:28:49] and I'm not fucking dying for Israel. That's so stupid. There's a little small trench.
[01:29:05] More leaked Israeli intelligence designed to pressure Trump to bob Iran. What a surprise.
[01:29:09] Israeli intelligence believe Iran moved thousands of uranium enrichment centrifuges in the tunnels deep inside of
[01:29:14] Mountain last fall Israeli and US officials say a development that would heighten concerns that Tehran could reconstitute its nuclear program
[01:29:21] Israel passed along the intelligence findings to the us saying the centrifuges were transferred to pickaxe mountain
[01:29:27] Site last fall after the 12 day war in june when american and israeli strikes pummeled iran's three main nuclear sites
[01:29:33] I mean, look, at some point you got to realize these guys are not fucking reliable, right?
[01:29:45] But Trump's closest allies are also a huge ultra Zionists.
[01:29:51] Trump's closest advisors are either unbelievably loyal to Israel's interests or directly Israeli.
[01:29:59] His advisors are giving him Israeli intelligence that has failed the Americans over and over
[01:30:06] again.
[01:30:07] He's always weirdly enough.
[01:30:10] This is not just the Israel specific thing.
[01:30:12] I've talked about this with Vladimir Putin as well.
[01:30:14] He for some reason does not trust his own intelligence communities assessment.
[01:30:21] He has always done this.
[01:30:22] He did this with Vladimir Putin too.
[01:30:24] If you remember, his own intelligence community notoriously would feed him information and
[01:30:29] he'd be like, no, shut the fuck up.
[01:30:31] You're the deep state.
[01:30:32] You're all woke and gay.
[01:30:33] I don't know what the reason is.
[01:30:35] And he would literally listen to Vladimir Putin over, he would listen to Vladimir Putin
[01:30:41] in the Ukraine, in the Ukraine conflict leading up to the Alaska summit.
[01:30:48] He gave a higher degree of emphasis to what Vladimir Putin was telling him rather than
[01:30:54] his own intelligence community.
[01:30:55] And I don't know why he does this, but he just does not trust his own intelligence community's
[01:31:01] assessment.
[01:31:02] He does not trust his own fucking generals.
[01:31:05] It's very strange.
[01:31:10] I think he has this, I think in some ways, look, who knows what Trump thinks, right?
[01:31:17] It's virtually impossible to understand what the fuck this guy is thinking, because he
[01:31:21] doesn't think, right?
[01:31:25] But I will say this, I think that he believes his own bullshit.
[01:31:31] I think he believes the whole like, the intelligence community is out to get me, the FBI was directed
[01:31:38] by Obama to surveil me.
[01:31:42] So I think there's like a resilient resentment that he has towards his own intelligence community
[01:31:48] for that reason.
[01:31:49] So when they're like, hey, we don't have enough munitions, hey, Mr. President, here's the
[01:31:54] intelligence that says that if we just bombed Iran through just the aerial bombardment campaign,
[01:31:59] we're not actually going to be able to destroy the IRGC.
[01:32:02] We're not going to be able to destroy the Iranian leadership at all.
[01:32:05] It's only going to cause the hardliners to gain more momentum.
[01:32:09] going to come back more forcefully, and they're going to invoke primacy in the Strait of Hormuz.
[01:32:16] And he was just like, shut up. It's woke and gay shit. I don't care.
[01:32:22] Okay. It's either that or he's just being blackmailed straight up.
[01:32:29] Maybe both. I don't know. But it just doesn't make any fucking sense. But here, here are the other
[01:32:37] dipshits. How much longer do you expect this to go on? And do you think munitions should
[01:32:42] be a limitation at this point? What do you hear? No, I don't think, you know, the Pentagon
[01:32:49] has done a great job of restocking the munitions. I don't think that's an issue at all. But
[01:32:55] I can't. Really? Really? CSIS has contradicted this information. It doesn't seem to be the
[01:33:06] case at all. This is straight up, first of all, with what, how, how, how did we increase
[01:33:17] efficiency in our procurement strategies, in our manufacturing capabilities overnight?
[01:33:27] I know Trump has tried to institute the Defense Production Act and has demanded that Lockheed
[01:33:32] Martin Raytheon, everybody, you know, more forcefully try to re-up the American munitions.
[01:33:40] But at a certain point, you know, unless you have some kind of, you know, alchemy or some
[01:33:48] kind of like magic missile production capabilities, there's just no way to, to rebuild our defensive
[01:34:02] rebuild our munitions, re-up our munitions, I just don't... Like, what are we doing?
[01:34:13] The only alternative that I can foresee here is the beast mode strategy, where they just throw
[01:34:21] F-15s, F-35s into the fucking line of fire with the hopes that they can
[01:34:28] they're less costly, you know, guided munitions. Some of those are still going to be some of the missiles that they're using are still missiles that they can, they can strike from afar as opposed to gravity bombs.
[01:34:43] But, but even then that's a, that's a suicidal, that's a suicidal strategy.
[01:34:58] You're a socialist, right? That's a political philosophy, right? How can you be a Democrat
[01:35:08] and a socialist that's contradictory? Says the commie Jesus. It's because I'm everything,
[01:35:13] dude. I'm a Maoist. I'm a fascist. I'm all of the above. Okay. That's it. I'm all of
[01:35:20] them on the fucking above and I do expect that we're going to be there
[01:35:33] I'm a vegan, I'm a meat eater, operation Northern Southern Watch went on for you
[01:35:37] almost 20 years I think so I think this is going to be something similar we're
[01:35:41] gonna have to stay there those guys aren't going to change their behavior we
[01:35:45] have to adapt and I think you know we're gonna have to get the Gulf States and
[01:35:49] and those who rely on the oil coming from the gold stage to help pay for this.
[01:35:55] This is psychotic. Make no mistake. Advocates for war with Iran make no secret of what they expect
[01:35:59] and want. An endless war. This retired general says, I do expect we are going to be there for a long
[01:36:03] time. Where are we going to have to stay? Where are we going to have to stay there?
[01:36:09] All it takes at this point is for China to fucking maybe slow-roll their strategic exports,
[01:36:21] the minerals and the magnets necessary for bomb-making and then we're fucked.
[01:36:27] We have virtually infinite supply of unguided and guided munitions, gravity bombs and the
[01:36:34] like, but we can't use them as long as the Iranian anti-air defense capabilities remain intact.
[01:36:42] Okay, that's the problem. So in order to take out the Iranian anti-air defense capabilities,
[01:36:47] your mobile units for the most part, okay, in order to take them out, we've been expending our
[01:36:53] standoff munitions. The ones that we lobbed, the Tomahawk missiles and the missiles that we lobbed
[01:37:00] from afar. Iran has also simultaneously been blowing up some of these missile launchers
[01:37:06] in the Gulf. And on top of that, just kind of eating it.
[01:37:15] But ultimately, as long as Iran has anti-air capabilities that threaten American fighter jets,
[01:37:24] it's far too costly for America to try to do aerial bombardment missions over Iranian air
[01:37:29] space. That's where we're at. Hello. Okay. These were reportedly taken by an American
[01:37:43] soldier and an undisclosed base. After Mather the Iran missile strike, you know it's an
[01:37:56] American soldiers you misspelled missile
[01:38:00] We're not gonna make it man. We're not gonna fucking make it
[01:38:07] Oh, and there's this one haven't heard about fog in a while joint fog travel to exotic places meet interesting people and kill them
[01:38:15] For what it's worth it seems as soldiers are being told that the increased precision impacts and delay signs are a result of more
[01:38:20] Countermission being used and enhanced targeting data
[01:38:22] I guess they don't talk about the radar situation aftermath of the Iran missile strike for what I'm hearing
[01:38:28] We're getting projected impact data, but the missiles are changing trajectory multiple times in flight
[01:38:33] So the projected impact the warnings are no good
[01:38:35] Targeting data is obviously getting fed to Iran from China or Russia because where they are impacting slash what they are targeting is insanely precise
[01:38:43] dude
[01:38:45] Dude, at some point, you have to recognize that these guys have the ingenuity and the
[01:38:56] fucking leverage and the upper hand.
[01:38:59] Even now, even as your fucking barracks are destroyed and you're staring at your destroyed
[01:39:05] barracks, you're like, oh, it must be Iran.
[01:39:07] It must be Russia.
[01:39:08] Sure, they're probably giving, they're probably obviously giving additional targeting data.
[01:39:15] like, how is this not a clear indication? How is not a clear indication that the the war efforts are
[01:39:22] failing? Big Kuba Day moment. Yeah, it is a big Kuba Day moment. Also, here's the other side of the
[01:39:38] story, I think, and this was my suspicion when I first saw that video, that direct target,
[01:39:46] that direct strike on US barracks in Jordan.
[01:39:53] What I noticed immediately was the lack of sirens, and a lack of sirens means that their
[01:40:00] early advanced warning systems and their radars are out.
[01:40:05] So they don't know they're being bombed until the bombs start hitting.
[01:40:10] So their response time is far lower as a consequence of that or, you know, they just they're asleep
[01:40:19] and they're sitting ducks inside these fucking bases.
[01:40:30] Cool bidet moment.
[01:40:31] Hashtag let us parasite and if they don't have early advanced warning and they don't
[01:40:41] have the sufficient precautions seems like the warnings aren't long enough so they're
[01:40:49] typically aren't air raid sirens if they're if they're piecing up American installations
[01:40:57] in Jordan, that means inevitably they can do that to Israel.
[01:41:03] And I think that's part of the reason why Israel is like, we're staying out of this.
[01:41:06] You guys, you guys got this, right?
[01:41:08] Hey, thank you, America.
[01:41:10] I know we goaded you into this, but you guys are good, right?
[01:41:14] Hey, you got this, King.
[01:41:16] And it's really funny because America is running out of bases in the region to store their
[01:41:23] straddle tankers. Because obviously, the maximum flight distance for these fighter jets, especially
[01:41:32] given like whichever kind of munitions that they have, even if they have these drop tanks,
[01:41:37] is like what, 500 miles? But the distance that they have to cover is approximately 800 miles.
[01:41:46] So they need to get refueled in the air. In order to get refueled in the air, you need to have
[01:41:53] Stratotankers. But you can't store the Stratotankers in Saudi Arabia. You can't
[01:42:00] store them in Kuwait. You can't store them in the American air bases in the
[01:42:04] region because Iran keeps blowing them up. So where are they putting the
[01:42:10] Stratotankers? They're putting it in Israel. And Israel doesn't like that
[01:42:16] that, because then it turns the Ben-Gurion airport into a dual-use facility that is a
[01:42:26] priority target for Iran.
[01:42:29] Obviously, it's the summertime.
[01:42:32] Israel is a country that takes advantage of tourism.
[01:42:38] So they're trying to stop the fucking strato-tankers from even landing in Ben-Gurion airport.
[01:42:46] like no you can't you can't house the strato tankers that you're using to strike our mortal enemy
[01:42:53] at our behest in our civilian airports because then they'll attack our civilian airports
[01:43:04] the u.s military is stationing lots of military refueling aircraft at an ostensibly civilian
[01:43:09] airport in israel this is another sign of desperation these are being used in the war israel
[01:43:14] wants America to fight in Iran. Now, Israel is saying they need to go because they're
[01:43:17] taking up parking space for civilian aircrafts and Israel doesn't want to hinder travel season.
[01:43:25] What's the problem? You don't like the war that you ordered? I'm so confused.
[01:43:39] I thought we were moving all I thought we were going to move sent com to Israel what happened I
[01:43:51] Thought that's what we were doing I
[01:43:54] Love this story because it's the most like Israeli mindset story of all time
[01:44:00] Okay, fight my war for me. I should experience zero repercussions as a consequence of you
[01:44:07] using all of your military assets ruining the long-standing and an existing
[01:44:16] relationships that you've cultivated over the last four or five decades
[01:44:25] with the Gulf region. Throw that all aside and you can't even fucking put your
[01:44:33] Stratotankers in my in my civilian airports
[01:44:38] Sorry, it's travel season for Israel. It's summertime in Israel. You're ruining our economy
[01:44:48] The most spoiled country of all time, it's unbelievable and we are so fucking cocked
[01:44:56] That we can't even tell our spoiled fail son shut the fuck up
[01:45:03] We're doing this for you.
[01:45:10] Houthi just declared the Red Sea close for Saudi oil if this stands a loss of another
[01:45:14] 4 to 5 million barrels per day.
[01:45:16] The Titanic is now hitting the iceberg and there are not enough lifeboats for the world
[01:45:20] economy.
[01:45:21] Iran's leverage is soaring, says Robert A. Pape.
[01:45:26] Chiefs are testifying on Capitol Hill this morning.
[01:45:29] They are the administration is requesting nearly 70 billion dollars to pay for this war and secretary headset and the joint chief's chairman
[01:45:36] Will be on the hill to defend that request. They will also likely be at Pete Hicks that the go back to the hill to beg for more money
[01:45:45] That's not I've been trying to get my Lib boyfriend to like you for years
[01:45:47] But the mouth should has permanently turned you into Hitler and his eyes fucking thanks a lot who cares man. Oh, it's sorry
[01:45:54] Yes, I know liberals are fucking insane
[01:45:59] about the injuries and fatalities with let him get his information from wrong
[01:46:06] sources who are professionally wrong all the time if a piece of garb is enough
[01:46:14] if a piece of garb is enough for these people to speak like oh my god I can't
[01:46:18] believe it this guy's basically Adolf Hitler then yeah he's a fucking moron you
[01:46:23] You know, there are thanks to you.
[01:46:29] There's another new development that could be rattling global market.
[01:46:34] It isn't the garb dude.
[01:46:35] Don't be dishonest.
[01:46:37] What is that?
[01:46:38] What is it?
[01:46:39] What is it then that I have a fair and ballast approach to the People's Republic of China
[01:46:48] Instead of like, uh, instead of taking a unbelievably violent posture to a foreign country,
[01:46:54] I don't treat China as a fucking foreign adversary. I give it the same critical thought that I give
[01:47:00] to the American founding fathers who literally owned slaves. Is that what it is?
[01:47:09] Account created this May following for years, by the way.
[01:47:12] Something tells me that you actually have a problem and you're you know making up a hypothetical like oh
[01:47:23] I've been a long-term fan for of yours for years dude. I almost changed my boyfriend's mind
[01:47:30] But you fucking ruined it because you love Mao Zedong. You're the biggest fan of the cultural
[01:47:37] Revolution you're the biggest fan of the Great Leap Forward interesting
[01:47:42] Am I? If you've been in here for years, you've probably heard me. Talk about these things.
[01:47:52] Talk about the cultural revolution. Talk about the accesses. Talk about the deaths due to
[01:47:57] mismanagement. So I suspect that you would know my full opinion. I still hate CCP, but
[01:48:07] you do have good analysis on where China was and where China is now. Yes. While the rest
[01:48:11] of the Western analysts have failed to properly identify where China is going. If you were
[01:48:17] in here for the last decade, you would have gotten a very different understanding of what
[01:48:23] the Communist Party of China was doing, okay? And where they're going. Do you want to understand
[01:48:32] the world or do you want to close your eyes, plug your ears and go, la, la, la, la, la?
[01:48:38] guys are just vicious monsters. That's it. You don't have to agree with me. You don't
[01:48:47] have to love everything I'm saying. Okay. All I ask for you is to listen. And it's so
[01:48:56] crazy to come in here and freak out about this shit at a time of vindication when Fareed
[01:49:03] Zacharia is coming out and literally being like China has benefited the most from America's
[01:49:08] military quagmire. When you got Johnny Harris, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Financial
[01:49:15] Times, all talking about how China actually cut down their oil imports dramatically in
[01:49:22] order to maintain stability in the energy markets, you would have heard that from my analysis
[01:49:31] months ago
[01:49:36] denormies really see mouses hitler figure yes they do one hundred percent they
[01:49:40] do yes liberals don't know anything about other countries they've just been
[01:49:44] taught that like
[01:49:45] uh... everyone is is just as vicious if not more vicious than a dot hitler
[01:49:49] actually was
[01:49:51] for sure
[01:50:01] You're in this Hong push survey
[01:50:04] Some Democrats worry that Francisca Hong would have a difficult time beating a Republican in the general election Hong probably tells her socialists
[01:50:10] It says she sports defundant police the first step towards abolishing the police and disappeared on a pocket as a controversial commentator said Americans
[01:50:15] Americans deserve the 9-11 tax. Oh, it's my least favorite interpretation of what I've said
[01:50:31] Yeah. For a lot of liberal education, they say Castro is Cuban Hitler. Okay. Che Guevara
[01:50:48] is also Argentinian slash Cuban Hitler. Stalin is Russian Hitler. Mao Zedong is Chinese
[01:50:56] Hitler, like everyone is a different variant of Hitler and the only right approach, like
[01:51:07] there's no reasonable critique, it's just different flavors of Adolf Hitler. Ho Chi
[01:51:13] Minh is Vietnamese Hitler at the time. Obviously that's changed a little bit now, I think,
[01:51:19] like we have a much better relationship with Vietnam now. But at the time, it was, you know,
[01:51:27] Ho Chi Minh was literally a Vietnamese Hitler. Kim Jong-un is North Korean Hitler. That's just how
[01:51:34] Americans learn about this stuff. Let me guess, Pol Pot is based. I don't know if Americans know
[01:51:42] about Pol Pot, but I guess Pol Pot, I don't know what Americans think about Pol Pot. I guess they,
[01:51:48] I mean, he is, unironically, he is literally closer to Hitler than all of these other figures.
[01:51:53] But of course, we supported Pol Pot, and so did China at the time, alongside the United States of
[01:52:00] America, big L for Chinese foreign policy, of course. So that's an interesting one, because they were
[01:52:12] not this this major American foreign adversary because it was uh it it
[01:52:19] corresponded to our needs in the region at the time to align with Pol Pot.
[01:52:28] And out of all of these like foreign adversaries or foreign leaders he is
[01:52:32] actually the closest to Adolf Hitler ideologically speaking or or you know
[01:52:40] Direct action wise
[01:52:47] Ignored raid fire. Thank you for the raid
[01:52:57] Literally saw someone in your reply say you support him because he's a communist. I mean, I literally wear glasses
[01:53:03] I I need them to see it would be the dumbest
[01:53:10] You know, no, I do not.
[01:53:20] I agree, I just think you can't expect Normie's not to get it said to the side of the mouse,
[01:53:25] side of the mouse who they don't know.
[01:53:26] Yeah, I don't care.
[01:53:27] It's, it's again, manufactured outrage.
[01:53:30] We all are adults.
[01:53:32] We're adults in this community and we're adults in general.
[01:53:35] We are all capable of critical thinking.
[01:53:38] If you see that and your immediate response is to lean into the manufactured outreach
[01:53:42] and say, oh, dude, why are you doing this?
[01:53:45] Of course liberals are going to fucking say shit.
[01:53:47] Who cares?
[01:53:49] My answer to that is who fucking cares?
[01:53:53] It's a Zhongshan suit, obviously a lot of Americans have unbelievable resentment towards
[01:53:59] China to anything China related.
[01:54:02] I don't.
[01:54:03] And a part of my job is to try to get America is to not be so fucking reactionary about
[01:54:08] other countries, including China. I want the American manufacturing base to be rebuilt,
[01:54:17] okay? I do want that. I understand taking a necessary, a necessary trade posture against
[01:54:27] China for certain sectors. But we have to also build those sectors, first of all. And we also
[01:54:34] have to chart a new path forward, one that is actually not treating China as a foreign adversary,
[01:54:41] but as an economic partner, because it is.
[01:54:48] But of course, no matter what happens, people are always, people in the United States of America
[01:54:52] are going to be unbelievably reactionary about this sort of stuff, but it doesn't fucking matter.
[01:54:56] It literally doesn't matter. Listen to the words that I'm saying, rather than the Zhongshan suit.
[01:55:04] Facebook normies are in Fox News comments defending you bro. Yeah, because Facebook normies are probably sick and tired of business as usual politics
[01:55:12] So they don't give a fuck if I'm wearing a Chinese suit
[01:55:19] Anyone that has the capability of listening to what I have to say
[01:55:24] Rather than
[01:55:26] Immediately going oh dude, you fucking you're wearing this Chinese suit. It's like really fucked up
[01:55:34] most people i think most normies will look at that and go i well that's a
[01:55:37] cool-looking suit some people say that's really fucked up i can't believe is
[01:55:41] doing that but who gives a shit
[01:55:48] do they really think chinese people are all nazis since they love mao over
[01:55:51] their lips are so dumb i don't think they think about that at all
[01:55:54] especially because you have to remember most um i mean with the exception of
[01:55:58] like i guess san francisco uh uh immigrants
[01:56:02] like a lot of the uh a lot of the chinese americans uh for the longest time were were coming from
[01:56:08] taiwan they're obviously very much against the the very much against the communist party of china
[01:56:16] so like they they've already had like a very negative opinion of china so they assume that
[01:56:21] every chinese person 1.4 billion of them living in the mainland actually secretly despise the
[01:56:26] government and hate it a lot, but they're, they're, uh, living under this like massive
[01:56:32] surveillance state, which is true. They are living under a massive surveillance state,
[01:56:35] but like that massive surveillance state is constantly keeping them down from actually,
[01:56:39] you know, having this like successful revolution that they, that is imminent.
[01:56:45] Like that's, I would go so far as say, I think that's like the American mindset that like every
[01:56:50] Chinese person, all 1.4 billion of them actually fucking despise the party. They hate their
[01:56:54] government they can't say anything about it because they're just too fearful right like that's
[01:57:00] that's probably what their attitude is
[01:57:14] we are the camp
[01:57:15] Did someone tell you that people of China are oppressed? The opposite is the case. The vast
[01:57:28] majority of Chinese citizens love the Communist Party of China. Chinese people pour into Shoshan
[01:57:32] China every day to lay flowers at Mao's statue. An American journalist living in China, Jason Smith.
[01:57:38] Yeah, it's just so funny that like my, a lot of Americans who are at least a little bit
[01:57:45] knowledgeable about China, who will say like Deng Xiaoping saved China, right? The market
[01:57:52] reforms are what saved China. At least they know that the statement that I, the statement
[01:57:59] that they clipped out of context where I'm like, oh, I would never disrespect Mao Zedong.
[01:58:05] I was like jokingly, uh, talking to a, uh, a chatter, responding to a chatter who, uh,
[01:58:12] was, was trying to claim that like 10 minutes square isn't a mass surveilled area, right?
[01:58:18] Uh, and I was, um, I was explaining how I got, uh, detained for like a moment by a Chinese
[01:58:25] cop who thought I was like making fun of Mao Zedong.
[01:58:27] And I was like, I would never make fun of Mao Zedong.
[01:58:30] Um, like saying, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,
[01:58:35] I would never make fun of Mao Zedong, but also at the same time, the Cultural Revolution,
[01:58:39] Great Leap Forward, had great excesses, a lot of deaths, and that's understandably something that
[01:58:45] I'm critical of and have criticized. That is, ironically, that is the dangest position.
[01:58:55] That is what, that is what Deng also advanced. Great reverence for Mao,
[01:59:02] while simultaneously pushing for marketization, liberalization, margar reforms.
[01:59:11] I've been a fan for years and I've been trying to get my mouse boyfriend to like you,
[01:59:20] but he said you have seen the light of dang and he's put off. Thanks a fucking lot, dude. I apologize.
[01:59:25] Honestly, I'm surprised no one has called you out for cultural appropriation. Yeah, because they're too busy fucking saying I'm Chinese.
[01:59:35] They're too busy being like you're a secret, you're secretly a Chinese agent, you're Chinese.
[01:59:58] Especially oil markets even more.
[02:00:02] Why is it so hard to comprehend that mouse failures were not solely upon him like the whole famine killing sparrowship was something pushed by farmers and cows and members as well?
[02:00:09] Okay, to be fair the cultural revolution you could actually put in the hands of mouse hit on
[02:00:15] Almost almost single-handedly. Okay. Sure
[02:00:20] The the the issues born out of famine there are a lot of moving parts there
[02:00:26] I think it's more so just the issue with like decentralized the decentralized structure
[02:00:30] and how, you know, there were technological limitations as well. But like, you know,
[02:00:41] come on.
[02:00:55] Ronback, Houthi rebels in Yemen have now declared their own naval blockade, they say,
[02:01:00] against Saudi Arabia. What is this, that chatters, live stream title? That's another critical
[02:01:06] international shipping channel and oil route. And also there's new reporting just in today
[02:01:12] that the Houthis have begun broadcasting messages warning Saudi ships to stop traveling in the
[02:01:19] Red Sea. Joining me right now is retired Army Major General James Spider Marx. He's the
[02:01:24] head of geopolitical strategy for academy securities. It's good to see you spider.
[02:01:28] Let's talk about this.
[02:01:30] I mean, the Houthis now threatening the Babel Mandab
[02:01:32] Strait, declaring this blockade on Saudi ships
[02:01:35] from passing through.
[02:01:37] If this really does go into effect,
[02:01:39] if we now have a second major shipping channel that
[02:01:43] is threatened, and thus, there will be disruption to it,
[02:01:48] what does that mean for the United States
[02:01:50] if this becomes a new front of this war?
[02:01:55] Well, it's been a front in the engagement
[02:01:58] with the Houthis in the past as we realize.
[02:02:00] Also bear in mind the Saudis over the course of about a decade
[02:02:04] tried to eliminate the Houthis without success.
[02:02:08] Many would say it's difficult to try to bomb an organization
[02:02:12] back into the 14th century.
[02:02:14] Yeah, also there's another country.
[02:02:20] There's another country closer to us
[02:02:22] that tried to eradicate the Houthis,
[02:02:25] also with no success. That's us. We did that. Like every single president since Obama has
[02:02:34] bombed Yemen as a matter of principle, like it's something you have to do. That's the
[02:02:40] moment you become president. And yet, you know, it hasn't really, 2015 and onward, it
[02:02:51] It hasn't really done anything.
[02:02:55] And they're already in the 14th century.
[02:02:57] So the Houdis have had an opportunity
[02:03:00] to really establish themselves over time.
[02:03:03] They've been quiet, as you know,
[02:03:04] over the past four or five months
[02:03:07] as a result of Epic Fury and their ability
[02:03:10] to stay in touch with Tehran,
[02:03:12] which is their primary lifeline for support,
[02:03:15] has been minimized as well.
[02:03:17] What this tells you is that they've been hunkering down,
[02:03:20] They have capacity and they are now going to reach up.
[02:03:22] The hooties.
[02:03:23] Turn up the heat, obviously.
[02:03:25] The concern truly is, do they have the capacity to do that?
[02:03:28] Can the hooties close the Babo-Mendem?
[02:03:31] Well, they've done it in the past,
[02:03:32] but it's been opened again because of the efforts
[02:03:35] of the United States, not with a lot of help
[02:03:37] from other allied partners.
[02:03:39] But there's an incentive for the Saudis certainly
[02:03:41] to be involved because they, the Saudis,
[02:03:44] have created a pipeline infrastructure, as you know,
[02:03:47] from the Gulf over to the Red Sea.
[02:03:49] This is the oil that's being pumped out.
[02:03:52] So that attempt to create an alternative
[02:03:54] and some resiliency and redundancy
[02:03:57] is now going to be threatened pretty significantly.
[02:04:00] So the US has a presence.
[02:04:02] The Saudis have a capability.
[02:04:04] What is going to be done that's going to detract
[02:04:07] from Epic Fury if in case, you know,
[02:04:09] if we are now on the front edge of a new engagement
[02:04:12] with Iran, will that alter that type of an attack profile?
[02:04:17] Those are the key issues that need to be addressed.
[02:04:19] So the hoodies can say a lot of things are priority.
[02:04:22] Let's see what really happens.
[02:04:23] And then I guarantee you the Saudis will step up
[02:04:26] and the US will certainly get involved as well.
[02:04:28] Nick, the Iran-backed Houthi group in Yemen,
[02:04:31] as you know, has declared its own maritime blockade
[02:04:34] on Saudi shipping.
[02:04:35] This is a big deal.
[02:04:37] What's the fallout from this?
[02:04:40] Yeah, the Houthis are essentially a proxy of the Iranians.
[02:04:44] The Iranians have closed the Strait of Hormuz.
[02:04:46] the Houthis are threatening to close the equivalent on the Red Sea known as Babal Mandab.
[02:04:52] About six or seven percent of the world's oil and energy supplies come out through Babal Mandab
[02:05:00] along the coast of Yemen. This is mostly Saudi oil that's pumped all the way across the Arabian
[02:05:07] peninsula from the Strait of Hamas where it's blocked and it comes out through the Red Sea.
[02:05:12] So this is a significant escalation. The Houthis are militarily ready for this moment.
[02:05:19] However, they have not taken or so far not acted upon this decision to block the Saudis.
[02:05:26] If they do, then we can expect an escalation in the response from the Saudis. That is almost unquestionable.
[02:05:32] Bob, I'll man-deb straight. It accounts for around 15% of maritime traffic.
[02:05:40] I mean, this is just such a huge risk.
[02:05:44] Countries are starting to like really draw down their reserves.
[02:05:48] How worried should we be about the Houthis at this point?
[02:05:52] Well, they haven't enacted, or at least they haven't enforced this blockade.
[02:05:58] But if they do, it's significant, because this was the exit that Saudi Arabia had used
[02:06:04] to avoid the Strait of Hormuz, which we know has been either locked down or kind of open
[02:06:10] or kind of closed for about five months. They were basically transporting via pipeline
[02:06:17] and convoy the oil to the Red Sea and trying to get it out that way. And they were doing
[02:06:22] that very successfully. Somewhere around the order of four million barrels a day had been
[02:06:28] exiting through this other choke point that now the Houthis want to close off.
[02:06:34] And so that is a significant threat, not the kind of threat that the Strait of
[02:06:39] Formouse is, but when you compile these things, it gets to be pretty, pretty
[02:06:44] significant. Now, oil prices, it is worth mentioning, although they are up about
[02:06:49] $20 from their low point from a few weeks ago when the Strait of Formouse was
[02:06:55] mostly open. We're still also around 25 or $30 below the high point for the wars. So
[02:07:03] the market right now is kind of saying, okay, you know, we think that this could be a problem.
[02:07:09] Maybe there's some room to rise, but we're not quite at the level that we are or we
[02:07:14] were just a few weeks ago. The reason for that is that, as you mentioned, there are
[02:07:20] For these inventories, China has almost two billion barrels of oil in its inventory.
[02:07:27] It continues to draw down that.
[02:07:29] And that's sapped demand for oil imports.
[02:07:33] So the big picture is this is a bigger problem today than we had yesterday, but still the
[02:07:41] market thinks that it can be managed, at least for the time being.
[02:07:45] I want to bring in Dina Esfandiari, Middle East geoeconomics lead for Bloomberg Economics.
[02:07:51] Dina, really good to have you with us.
[02:07:53] I want to start off with something you wrote on X and you say this.
[02:07:56] The Houthis have announced a blockade of Saudi framing it as a domestic issue.
[02:08:01] The move is intended to give them wiggle room to escalate from targeting Saudi ships only
[02:08:06] to expanding to wider disruption in the Red Sea.
[02:08:10] Adina, we also know that the Houthis have already started broadcasting messages to vessels,
[02:08:17] putting out warnings as well. I mean, this could be another huge risk on global oil supply.
[02:08:24] How are you analysing some of the scenarios that could play out in the next couple of days?
[02:08:31] Absolutely. This is really significant and it's really significant now because so much of the
[02:08:38] oil that was going through the Straits of Hormuz has now been diverted towards the Red Sea. The
[02:08:43] Saudis in particular have done that, reaching maximum capacity in their east-west pipeline.
[02:08:49] So that means that all of that oil that was going through Hormuz is now going to the Red Sea.
[02:08:54] The Uttis have been very careful to give themselves space. So they've now come out and said that they
[02:09:00] were told they will target all ships that go in and out, that dock in and out of Saudi ports.
[02:09:06] I don't know if they have the capability. I'll be honest. I mean, it's a mistake to all to ever underestimate the Houthis
[02:09:17] It's always a mistake to underestimate the Houthis it was one of my biggest misses in
[02:09:23] the beginning of
[02:09:26] Israel's
[02:09:27] genocide of Gaza
[02:09:29] where I jokingly talked about how like oh a seven front war really like who these are gonna who these are actually gonna
[02:09:39] Be a significant threat to Israel and I was wrong about that
[02:09:44] They were such a major threat to the Israeli economy that they successfully bankrupted one of Israel's two major ports with their blockade
[02:09:53] And I was wrong so I I will never underestimate them again
[02:09:57] But I do think, I do wonder if they have the capability of, if they have the capability
[02:10:10] to successfully and continuously blockade the Red Sea entry point, the Babel-Mandeb
[02:10:17] Strait, because I will say, yeah, this is what happened in the last port on Sadallah
[02:10:24] blocked in March 2024, the Port Operator announced plans to lay off half of his staff due to the
[02:10:28] Houthi attacks stymying shipping trade to the Port. On the 7th of July 2024, the Port CEO told
[02:10:33] the Knesset Economic Affairs Committee that there had been no activity at the Port in the past eight
[02:10:37] months, and he was requesting financial assistance. Later, the CEO said that it must be acknowledged
[02:10:42] that the Port is in a state of bankruptcy. On the 17th of July 2025, the Port's bank accounts were
[02:10:48] frozen due to unpaid tax. The Port completely shut down on the 20th of July 2025.
[02:10:54] Now, that port is, yes, a lot further away from Yemen than the Yambu port is on the Red
[02:11:04] Sea.
[02:11:05] So, it's probably a lot easier for the Houthis to successfully strike the Yambu ports and
[02:11:12] strike other Saudi ports on the Red Sea to render commercial traffic inoperable.
[02:11:19] So, you know
[02:11:24] Yeah, the port of a lot was the only Israeli port on the Red Sea located in northern tip of the Gulf of Acaba
[02:11:29] The strategic location has given its outsize importance despite being remote got shut down
[02:11:36] Why are you counter signaling Ansar Allah? What does Iran have that the Houthis don't?
[02:11:51] 47 years of underground facilities where they can build every tool, every part necessary,
[02:12:00] a direct line of commercial traffic by way of trains and railroads to China, so they can
[02:12:08] get their components in time. They have a whole-ass state apparatus. They have, yeah,
[02:12:15] I mean, they have everything that the Houthis don't. The Houthis are a family that won the
[02:12:22] the Yemen civil war basically. The Houthis don't have a lot without Iranian shipments.
[02:12:37] Let's be serious for a second. They've done a lot with the limitations that they have.
[02:12:43] They're very proud people.
[02:12:48] They got heart.
[02:12:50] But ultimately, if we're talking about their manufacturing capabilities, I'm not super
[02:12:55] well versed.
[02:12:56] I'm not going to lie to you.
[02:12:57] I don't know what kind of domestic manufacturing capabilities the Ansar Allah movement has.
[02:13:05] But you don't really need much.
[02:13:08] Here's the thing.
[02:13:09] necessarily need a lot to be able to impede commercial shipping anywhere. You need some drones,
[02:13:16] that's it, right? You just need drones. And the Houthis definitely have drones. I just don't know
[02:13:25] how many drones they have and how many missiles they have. In early 2025, the US spent an estimated
[02:13:35] $7 billion bomb on the Houthis with little to show for it. The US burned through munitions,
[02:13:38] but never even established air superiority in the Houthis continue to fire at vessels at the Red Sea.
[02:13:42] Yes. Yes. This is, you know, the 2025 US Houthi conflict ultimately ended with Trump cutting
[02:13:51] a face-saving deal with the Houthis to desist attacks on US vessels. Dude, this was so devastating.
[02:14:00] This was such a major blow. I covered it at the time. I don't know if you guys remember,
[02:14:04] But like we literally waved the white flag and we told the Houthis that they can continue hitting Israel
[02:14:10] As long as they stopped hitting our naval assets in the region
[02:14:16] That they would that we would stop bombing
[02:14:19] Yemen as long as they promised they would stop blowing up our planes and blowing up our naval assets
[02:14:31] That was insane
[02:14:34] Trump came out and literally said the Houthis have a lot of heart. They're very brave. They're great warriors like he
[02:14:43] Do you not remember?
[02:14:48] Trump said my mistake the Houthis got hands
[02:14:55] That was in 2025 that was a year ago almost exactly a year ago
[02:15:04] Biden also did something similar with the Houthis as well.
[02:15:11] Trump restarted Operation Prosperity Guardian when he took ownership, when he became the
[02:15:16] president, Trump did the exact same thing that Biden had done and failed at.
[02:15:23] Because the Houthis never stopped their blockade of Israeli shipping through the Red Sea.
[02:15:30] They never stopped it.
[02:15:35] Biden tried and failed, Trump brought it back, tried and failed.
[02:15:41] Part of that is because asymmetric warfare favors the side that is capable of striking
[02:15:47] through a relatively cheap, through relatively cheap means.
[02:15:52] The side that is capable of striking at commercial vessels is always going to be able to successfully
[02:15:58] render travel inoperable.
[02:16:00] You're always going to be able to stop ships from transiting because it's not even necessarily
[02:16:06] about like a physical barrier that they're creating.
[02:16:09] They don't have that.
[02:16:10] They're not doing that.
[02:16:11] It's more so about the finances, the finances of it all.
[02:16:19] With a handful of drones, you can stop commercial shipping in the Bob Ilmandev Strait because
[02:16:26] No one will ensure that ships are allowed to, no one will ensure ships transiting through the
[02:16:32] Bob Elmondip Strait if there is no guarantee that they can just pass through without being blown up.
[02:16:44] But of course how much they implement that threat is what everybody's going to be watching
[02:16:50] because they could target just Saudi ships to begin with, they could go much bigger.
[02:16:55] At the end of the day, what matters is that they've made this threat and ultimately, because
[02:17:02] they've done this in the past before, that threat is credible and that's enough to scare
[02:17:07] a lot of people off.
[02:17:08] Yeah.
[02:17:09] Look, the wider issue here is what we're seeing from the US side and the Pentagon is saying
[02:17:14] nearly 100 US troops were injured in the last two weeks.
[02:17:17] We know that Hegzeff is expected to face senators today and answer questions around the fact
[02:17:22] that they need more money for this war.
[02:17:25] And with the current perspective, they're reading into this, they're looking very closely
[02:17:29] at the US strategy right now.
[02:17:32] And I guess who's going to buckle for that?
[02:17:34] Isn't the Houthis a threat?
[02:17:35] Isn't the Houthis threat alone to shut down the straight?
[02:17:38] Yes, they are.
[02:17:40] They are a threat alone, of course.
[02:17:43] Of course they are because they have done it already.
[02:17:45] They've done it successfully, so they can do it again.
[02:17:48] I'm just saying, I don't know how.
[02:17:50] Look, the only thing I was saying is, I don't know how much they have in the tank.
[02:17:59] I don't know what their capabilities look like.
[02:18:02] I don't know if they are capable of continuously for a long timeline.
[02:18:08] If they're going to be able to hold off commercial traffic, I don't know what kind of response
[02:18:15] America has in the books for the Houthis as well.
[02:18:17] We're on Fox News again.
[02:18:18] attempting to laugh at the source, to look at Hassan Piker, to look at his wardrobe, to
[02:18:25] look at his fetishization of totalitarians, and simply dismiss Piker.
[02:18:30] But that would be a mistake.
[02:18:31] It would be a mistake specifically for Democrats.
[02:18:36] No more to Trumpism, but no more to the Democrats who compromise, who conciliate, and who betray
[02:18:44] us.
[02:18:45] Democrats who will collaborate and cooperate with the fascists who will fund Israel who will help poison the planet
[02:18:52] We don't need those Democrats anymore. In fact, I know we have a message
[02:18:59] We are coming
[02:19:02] Collaborate it's not the kind of word you stumble upon. It's a very intentional
[02:19:07] Purposeful word. It's a type of word that's used by the secret police when they show up to the door
[02:19:10] You are collaborating with the wrong country.
[02:19:13] What are you saying?
[02:19:15] It's a Democrats.
[02:19:17] But it's also this entire concept of Blue Maga,
[02:19:20] something we all Democrats or Republicans should listen to
[02:19:24] because I think it's true.
[02:19:27] You see, for more than a decade now,
[02:19:30] the Democrat Party has radicalized its own base.
[02:19:34] They've been going after Donald Trump
[02:19:36] because they decided that he was illegitimate.
[02:19:40] They've called him a fascist, they call him a Nazi.
[02:19:42] And now they're discovering that they cannot control the rhetoric or the base that is responded
[02:19:49] to that rhetoric.
[02:19:51] The Democratic Party is in the middle of the civil war, right?
[02:19:56] And you have moderate mainstream-
[02:19:58] MAP DEPPING!
[02:19:59] ... which is myself, which have been challenged by the far left extremists.
[02:20:05] You know what's beautiful about all of this?
[02:20:07] makes Zara Mammadani look like a fucking moderate. Okay? Every damn day that they point to me
[02:20:14] and say I'm a fucking dangerous radical is a day where Zara Mammadani is the appropriate
[02:20:21] moderate, which he is. Okay? That's, that's how this fucking works. That's how this shit
[02:20:28] works.
[02:20:29] hired of a set of people on the very far left in the democratic and there will come a day when
[02:20:36] he will call me a moderate as well. There are those who find me to be too conciliatory to the
[02:20:43] democratic party. Okay, this is how we pulled the Overton window back to a place of decency,
[02:20:52] to a place of honesty, to a place where we forcibly center the needs of the working class in this
[02:20:57] god damn country once and fucking for all
[02:21:01] that's it
[02:21:02] type of move by the way out of all of these people that wilkin is talking about
[02:21:05] there's only been one malice
[02:21:07] his name is van jones
[02:21:08] vans jones is the only one that he has shown thus far that actually was an
[02:21:12] unironic malice third world is by the way
[02:21:16] pointed out the direction of the democrat party
[02:21:18] he pointed out
[02:21:20] like him who would describe himself as senator left
[02:21:23] was standing next to someone who would describe themselves on the left
[02:21:26] But as the left continued through the years to run to the left,
[02:21:30] it wasn't the center that moved.
[02:21:32] In fact, it was the center that got pushed toward the right
[02:21:35] because progressives ran further and further.
[02:21:38] By 2021, that cartoon shows you a leftist far,
[02:21:42] running off the screen yelling bigot as somebody on the center.
[02:21:45] If you updated that image to 2026,
[02:21:49] you would see a leftist run even further,
[02:21:51] knelt, crouched, laying down in a prone position with a rifle,
[02:21:55] pointing it back at the center of the line yelling Nazi when it comes to
[02:22:01] progressivism there is no destination it's only acceleration it's a movement
[02:22:06] defined by movement it's always about more and the Democrat Party gave this
[02:22:12] movement the only push it needed this year this country could very well go the
[02:22:19] way of Germany in the 1930s. Comparing the tactics of Donald Trump to Mussolini and Hitler
[02:22:27] is a very legitimate thing. I don't care what Elon Musk is doing behind a presidential seal.
[02:22:35] In this country, we hate Nazis. We have a Tim O'Hidler in the White House right now that thinks
[02:22:41] that he is going to become the dictator of the United States. Don't you find it so funny that
[02:22:45] they're packaging this entire correct approach. Perhaps regardless of our opinions on health care,
[02:22:53] regardless of our opinions on Israel, there is a truth to the commentary from all Democrats and
[02:23:00] even people on my side that are more radical than the Democratic Party. The establishment
[02:23:06] Democrats removed moderation from the equation and in its place they added a call to action.
[02:23:13] You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there is unrest in our lives.
[02:23:18] I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country.
[02:23:21] I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind, and you are playing the pride.
[02:23:29] I haven't swearing color very long. We have to f**k you up.
[02:23:34] If that's your starting point, how do you look up with surprise at the place you end up?
[02:23:40] hahahaha
[02:23:42] left wing
[02:23:43] terrorism always ends in bloodshed
[02:23:47] this is fascism
[02:23:48] by the way
[02:23:49] this is straightforward fascism
[02:23:51] and if liberals
[02:23:53] self identifying liberals and if democrats can keep positions of power don't realize that this is the real threat
[02:23:58] now someone like myself not what I'm fucking wearing okay
[02:24:02] listen to my words
[02:24:05] this is the real threat
[02:24:10] creation even if it has left them behind and now democratic socialists are
[02:24:16] ready to take the wheel baby Frankenstein is ready to now be in charge
[02:24:22] the responsibility that we have as Americans the recognition that is going
[02:24:26] to be required of us of the exploitative and extractive nature that we play on
[02:24:31] the global stage is only going to be challenged if we are getting
[02:24:39] represented by people who understand that on a fundamental level, right?
[02:24:43] And that means getting more immigrants into office.
[02:24:45] That means getting more people who have heritage in the global south into into office.
[02:24:51] Oh, God, terrifying.
[02:24:53] The third world again.
[02:24:55] So what now? What do we go from here?
[02:24:56] Well, historically, when Democrats don't like where their voters go,
[02:24:59] they don't try to persuade them.
[02:25:01] They overrule them.
[02:25:03] Let's look at the history.
[02:25:04] They need Captain Bernie Sanders in favor of Hillary Clinton.
[02:25:07] two years ago today, today, they swapped out Joe Biden for Kamala Harris.
[02:25:12] They dropped Graham Plattner for someone yet to be chosen by party insiders.
[02:25:18] That is blue MAGA.
[02:25:20] That is the machine that tells its own people, we know what's best for you.
[02:25:26] Now, Democrats are finding out the hard way.
[02:25:28] This is what you get.
[02:25:29] You get the platform of the Democratic socialist of America and your only
[02:25:35] response to stopping defunding the Department of War or replacing the
[02:25:40] president and the Supreme Court is to anti-democratically undercut the voice
[02:25:45] of your very own people. You can't all of a sudden ask everyone to calm down after
[02:25:51] years of calling your opponents fascists. Eventually, you'll have to watch your
[02:25:56] own back. Okay, here's a really good idea.
[02:25:59] You're a collaborator. Joining me now is former Pennsylvania Democrat Congressman.
[02:26:02] Here's a really good idea. How about not being a fucking fascist to the Republicans?
[02:26:07] And how about not being a collaborator to the fascist for the goddamn Democrats who do?
[02:26:12] It's Patrick. Hey, I'm an American patriot. Well, I appreciate that. Hey, listen, I will say this.
[02:26:18] I know there's a lot of folks that want to talk about, let's blame who's to blame with
[02:26:22] Democratic Party, etc. Right? Like you, I'm a leader, right? I don't blame says who's a fault.
[02:26:28] Let's talk about responsibility. Responsibility is what we do about it. I claim both parties,
[02:26:34] literally both parties, because they've ignored the affordability crisis that's going around
[02:26:40] and happening to everyday American families. Neither party is addressing it. Neither party. And
[02:26:46] that's why, you know, I don't agree with the things that were said there, you know. Well, okay.
[02:26:53] But I disagree with what you just said. So let's pick up on where I disagree. Okay.
[02:26:56] First, let's start where we do agree.
[02:26:58] Yeah, affordability is a real issue in America.
[02:27:00] We've dealt with for years, especially under the Biden administration, hyperinflation.
[02:27:04] We had inflation up to 9%.
[02:27:05] Even today, gas prices are not where the American people want them,
[02:27:08] and things are unaffordable, including housing.
[02:27:10] However, I do not believe this leftward lurch in your party
[02:27:15] is in any way due to affordability.
[02:27:18] If I were to believe that, I would expect to see the working class
[02:27:21] of America voting for Democratic Socialist candidates.
[02:27:23] candidates, but instead what I see is rich college kids, highly educated, largely white,
[02:27:29] urban professionals in places like New York voting for these radical policies, which says to me,
[02:27:35] this is less about affordability. And this is more about the Democrat party having radicalized
[02:27:41] a good percentage of its base into believing that everyone, and by the way, when it comes to
[02:27:45] everyone, Patrick, basically they would not distinguish between you and me. They would
[02:27:49] would call you blue maga. They would call you a collaborator and they'd call us both
[02:27:53] enemies. Well, and that's why, you know, I love American, just like my brothers, the
[02:27:59] veterans, 52% were independence. But, but will you had on government promo, he ran for mayor,
[02:28:05] he lost. Do you know why he lost in deep blue New York? He lost because he didn't talk about
[02:28:10] affordability. The current mayor did. And that's the reality. If you ignore the will
[02:28:17] of the American people, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, they are going to bug you out
[02:28:20] of office.
[02:28:21] And it's not about being a Democratic Socialist tonight, it's about are you representing the
[02:28:26] pain points and representing a future that is for all Americans, not just the wealthiest
[02:28:32] or not just the poorest among us?
[02:28:35] Yet, that is not what you hear from Democratic Socialists.
[02:28:40] You can definitely play the role of the PRI in Mexico and hand out groceries in the line
[02:28:46] for the voting booth.
[02:28:47] And then in some ways, that's what this is reduced to.
[02:28:50] Because you talk about affordability,
[02:28:51] but their answer to that, Patrick, is have no bills,
[02:28:54] have no debt, have no job.
[02:28:56] So they live in a never, never land of the economy.
[02:28:59] And so we're dealing with something much more radical
[02:29:01] than affordability.
[02:29:02] We're dealing with something that threatens to upend America.
[02:29:05] And I can play, and I have played,
[02:29:07] and you've heard those clips.
[02:29:09] And I know that many like you think
[02:29:11] that it is a small fraction of your party,
[02:29:13] but there is no doubt that's the heat of your party,
[02:29:15] That's the energy.
[02:29:16] Look.
[02:29:18] But I would say when you look at, there's 600,000 elected positions in America.
[02:29:22] There's only 250 elected democratic socialists, right?
[02:29:25] So the chart you showed earlier, if there's all those folks and you're saying,
[02:29:29] head of the left, the reality of it is, is that the majority of Democrats,
[02:29:33] just like the majority of Americans, are at the center.
[02:29:37] They might be a little center left, they might be a little center right.
[02:29:39] But they're not democratic socialists.
[02:29:41] They're not.
[02:29:42] Capitalism in America is more popular than socialism.
[02:29:46] And that's why I do think that when you have practical, pragmatic candidates for their
[02:29:51] Democrat, Republican or independent, that's who's gonna win.
[02:29:54] And by the way, the fastest growing party in America isn't Democrat or Republican.
[02:29:59] It's independence.
[02:30:00] That's what decides these federal elections.
[02:30:03] All these policies are unbelievably popular, buddy.
[02:30:06] Not because of Democratic socials, but because of independents who were to say, I'm voting
[02:30:10] of folks who basically care about the price in the supermarket, not not talking about
[02:30:15] values in a ballot box. Okay, let's hope that is true. I hope that your diagnosis as well
[02:30:21] of your party is accurate as well that most of your party still remains center left. And
[02:30:26] if that's true, let's implore those in your party who are centrist to stop talking like
[02:30:30] everything is a potential threat. If you are dumb enough or cynical enough to lean into
[02:30:36] these Republican bastardizations as many on the Twitter side of the commentary are,
[02:30:45] you're a fucking idiot. You're a rube. You're a sucker. You're not going to make it, okay? Because
[02:30:52] what they are doing to me, what liberals are doing to me, Republicans do to them.
[02:30:59] And Wilkin gives the game away when he draws a direct through line between Chuck Schumer's
[02:31:04] sentiment, and mine, because there is a point of agreement, whether Chuck Schumer believes
[02:31:09] it or not, doesn't matter, he understands that the base wants him to say certain things
[02:31:14] like Trump is a fashion because he is, okay?
[02:31:19] So as long as liberals keep punching left foolishly, foolishly keep punching left and
[02:31:28] legitimizing the right-wing reactionary position they will lose. Okay? It's that simple. It's
[02:31:37] that simple. And I urge self-identifying liberal voters not to fall for this bullshit. Okay?
[02:31:46] Do not fall for this bullshit. It's that simple. And I think, unfortunately, many liberals
[02:31:56] are either cynically leaning into this because they think this will take care of their left
[02:32:00] flank so they don't have to actually run in the primaries and they can just like get the
[02:32:07] federal government to take care of their left flank problem.
[02:32:13] But at a time when it's very clear that the federal government is trying to actively terror
[02:32:20] jacket the entire left movement, the Democratic Socialists of America, PSL, and onward, if
[02:32:27] Democrats, if liberal Democrats in key positions of power don't recognize that this will inevitably
[02:32:33] harm them as well, put them in harm's way as well, okay? They are gonna have a very tough time.
[02:32:41] It's time to not up or shut up. We're here. We're here. Fascism is here.
[02:33:11] Yeah, Justice Department activates untested court for alien terrorist deportations.
[02:33:22] First they will go after the non-citizens, undocumented and documented.
[02:33:28] Then they will inevitably move on to citizens.
[02:33:32] Yeah, I know it's really funny.
[02:33:35] I saw this.
[02:33:38] Stevens has gotten so much mileage out of the story on this woman doing fundraisers for her opponents,
[02:33:42] especially considering that the same woman did a fundraiser for Stevens three months after the posting question.
[02:33:47] Yeah, I saw this last night. This was the co-chair.
[02:33:55] This was the co-chair.
[02:33:58] of the Mallory McMorrow campaign, the woman, the Michigan Dem, who praised grandfather's
[02:34:10] Nazi military service, hosting fundraiser for Abdulla said she was a co-chair for Mallory
[02:34:17] McMorrow's Senate run. Okay. And what's interesting about it is she's obviously a big fundraiser
[02:34:25] in the state because she also had fundraised for Hailey Stevens. So this is a hilarious story.
[02:34:37] Stevens has gotten so much mileage out of the story on this woman doing fundraise for her opponents,
[02:34:41] especially considering that the same woman did a fundraiser for Stevens three months
[02:34:45] after the post in question. It's such a funny story. All she needed to do was not post about
[02:34:49] her Nazi grandfather and yet that and the fact that she's apparently done fundraise for basically
[02:34:54] anyone who's ever run for office of democrat in michigan yes she seems like a normal well-meaning
[02:34:58] liberal who just posted family history she should have buried it is a hilarious story i could not
[02:35:07] believe it when i first encountered it this lady literally was like this veterans day i want to
[02:35:13] give a shout out to my grandfather who is a veteran of world war two just not on the right side
[02:35:19] Okay, it is fucking, it's a hilarious story, but what's crazy about it is that Haley Stevens
[02:35:31] is trying to weaponize the story as Abdul right now.
[02:35:33] Meanwhile, she fucking fundraised for Haley Stevens.
[02:35:37] What are we doing?
[02:35:38] Hassan, why do we not push FDR as a role model for social programs?
[02:35:43] What are we leaning into?
[02:35:44] What worked in the past?
[02:35:45] It's like we don't want to embrace or recall this period in history.
[02:35:48] Great question.
[02:35:49] FDR would not have done any of those reforms if it wasn't for the communists pushing him to get to those reforms
[02:36:03] But yes, these guys think FDR is a communist too, they just are too embarrassed to openly say that out loud, I'm pretty sure
[02:36:19] Yeah, for the record, Emily's list polled Michigan but chose not to poll the Senate election
[02:36:34] despite endorsing Stevens.
[02:36:36] Oh, they most certainly polled El Sayed and Stevens in the decision not to release the
[02:36:39] results suggests a bad result for Stevens.
[02:36:41] Yes, it is a complete media blackout on internal polls coming from the Haley Stevens side.
[02:36:48] and there is a reason for it.
[02:36:52] Okay?
[02:36:53] Especially now, especially now that Abdul
[02:36:57] is releasing internal polls that show him
[02:36:59] up 10 points over Haley Stevens,
[02:37:02] obviously the counter from the Haley Stevens camp
[02:37:05] is to release their internal numbers.
[02:37:07] But it's very clear that their internal numbers
[02:37:09] are showing something devastating.
[02:37:10] This also corresponds to what Haley Stevens
[02:37:13] has been doing in terms of attacking Abdul
[02:37:15] over and over again.
[02:37:16] close to the race, you're supposed to actually lock in on your supporters. You're supposed to try to
[02:37:24] show your policies and try to make an argument of a vision in the affirmative. The fact that
[02:37:31] they're not doing that, and the fact that they're aggressively posturing against Abdel El Sayed,
[02:37:36] trying to slander him extra hard, and potentially even putting themselves in a weaker position
[02:37:43] overall, even if they were to win the primary, right, implies that they recognize that they're
[02:37:51] cooked. Meanwhile, she hasn't done a single fucking town hall. She is doing a horrible job at campaigning.
[02:38:01] It's all just attack at after attack at after attack at. Now, the problem with attack ads like this
[02:38:07] is that they depress turnout. They don't actually,
[02:38:12] they don't actually increase turnout for your side. It has the capacity to potentially depress
[02:38:18] turnout for your opponent, okay? This is not how you win elections if you're down 10 points.
[02:38:29] You have to also have a vision in the affirmative and none, none of, I'm so tired,
[02:38:36] Yeah, Parker get a job said that too. It's fine guys. It's okay
[02:38:41] Okay. Yes optics optics Parker get a job is very frustrated with the optics. He's saying I'm making the DSA look bad
[02:38:49] I'm making the the socialist movement look bad
[02:38:52] I'm making the Democrats look bad because I wore a Zhongshan suit that I got in China
[02:38:58] The answer that I have to that is
[02:39:00] Just let me fucking cook
[02:39:02] Okay, it doesn't matter. You have it. It costs $0 for you to not lean into reactionary manufactured outrage
[02:39:14] Okay
[02:39:16] That's it
[02:39:19] That's it
[02:39:24] We have to have some messaging discipline these optics are messages a distilled version of what you say every day is it not
[02:39:32] Yes, there is also an optics argument that is valid, and then there's an optics argument
[02:39:39] that is invalid.
[02:39:40] If you're actually leaning in to the idea that me wearing a Chinese suit is actually
[02:39:46] the same as like being Adolf Hitler, then you're a little stupid, okay?
[02:39:51] I'm sorry, it's unbelievably stupid.
[02:39:56] Why are you seeding the framing on this issue to oppositional figures?
[02:40:02] David Pac-Man lost his mind on this too, 54 minutes, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. I mean, who cares? Whatever.
[02:40:19] After October over 7th, Amala Hassan cooks since he handles his ops easy.
[02:40:32] Why don't you meet people where they are? I do meet people where they are. I care about
[02:40:40] what people care about. I care about the actual impact, the actual policies. I am a firm and
[02:40:48] committed believer that wearing a fucking narrow style suit or wearing a Chinese suit
[02:40:54] is nowhere near as consequential as the actual things that I'm talking about. And most people,
[02:41:01] I think there are definitely a lot of people who will hear the, the, the criticism.
[02:41:07] So we'll hear the cries and go, you know what that makes sense.
[02:41:09] I think this guy does love, uh, mousy dong.
[02:41:11] I think, um, this guy does, uh, love, uh, China.
[02:41:16] It's scary or whatever.
[02:41:18] Okay.
[02:41:19] Hassan is an, uh, is unironically an actual legit SJW says social butt.
[02:41:31] Yes.
[02:41:44] I think the suit scandal unironically worked because wearing the suit caused Fox News to
[02:41:55] constantly play the commentary.
[02:41:58] I'm fine with that.
[02:42:01] they still would have ran the college Democrats of America speech, regardless of what kind
[02:42:08] of suit I was wearing, but I don't give a shit.
[02:42:11] If that gets in front of eyeballs, if that actually gets people, if that gets people
[02:42:16] to actually hear what I have to say, a much larger audience to hear what I have to say,
[02:42:19] I'm happy with that.
[02:42:21] Who gives a fuck?
[02:42:25] I just want to say that the gray suit makes it so that people may not take you seriously
[02:42:31] enough and by people I mean normal voters? Yeah, well it's a good thing that I'm not
[02:42:36] running for office, isn't it? I'm a content creator, okay? I'm a content creator. No,
[02:42:50] you should listen to them capitulate to not wearing and also while you're at it, listen
[02:42:53] to the centers and capitulate on all your socialist values because caring about what
[02:42:56] scare centers, how we'll create a more progressive society funded by Third Way. Yeah.
[02:43:03] At a time when the State Department is actively talking about arresting people like myself,
[02:43:13] liberals' hyper focus has been to give them credence, to give those fears credence. At a time
[02:43:19] when the State Department is talking about establishing red scare propaganda and McCarthy
[02:43:24] trials once again against their left flank that ranges all the way from someone like
[02:43:29] myself to PSL and DSA and even Karen fucking bass liberals hyper focusing on what kind
[02:43:36] of suit I've chosen to wear the college democrats of america gives the fucking game away they
[02:43:41] don't give a shit
[02:43:51] one of the New York Times big Middle Eastern correspondences published a long essay about
[02:43:55] how Blinken and Sullivan aren't so sure about Netanyahu any longer. Ken Klobassan reports
[02:43:58] Mark Ramuvia State Department is preparing blacklist.
[02:44:01] Yeah.
[02:44:03] Okay, but it would actually be hilarious if you issued a formal apology to everyone saying,
[02:44:21] I'm sorry if my suit of entity was not my fault. You don't appreciate fashion. Yeah
[02:44:25] Well, the State Department is talking about pre crime for far-left terrorists
[02:44:30] Democrats are literally leaning into this hysteria because they're too fearful of losing their goddamn primaries
[02:44:39] Okay, they're so scared of losing their primaries
[02:44:42] They're so scared of facing their voters that they are leaning into this madness mind in the United States counterterrorism strategy
[02:44:49] We currently are addressing three major types of terror groups
[02:44:54] narco terrorists
[02:44:56] Islamic or jihadi terrorists and far-left terrorists
[02:45:01] For all three we need to identify terror actors
[02:45:05] Yeah, one of the things that's really funny that this chatter also pointed to is like dog. They say I love 9-11
[02:45:12] You think a fucking Chinese suit that most people most normies don't even know about is gonna push them over the edge
[02:45:18] Are you fucking crazy? People don't even give a fuck about the 9-11 shit
[02:45:25] And plots before they happen, yeah
[02:45:30] now.
[02:45:47] Very cool of the State Department talking about blacklist and pre-crime and McCarthy
[02:45:57] trials and re-implementing the McCarthy trials while liberals on this website have joined
[02:46:13] hands with Ted Cruz and the entire GOP about a Chinese suit.
[02:46:38] We're gonna be in the camps next to me, dumbass.
[02:47:07] Blacklist, very cool state department talking about Blacklist pre-crime and re-implementing
[02:47:11] the McCarthy trials.
[02:47:18] All liberals on this website have joined hands with Ted Cruz and the entire GOP to freak
[02:47:24] the fuck out, to freak out about a Chinese suit.
[02:47:31] More, they're putting all of us in the camps, dumb asses.
[02:47:45] Replace ass with Jew, not so funny now, huh?
[02:47:48] You know you're speaking to the wind, right?
[02:47:51] I mean, maybe some people will see this and will recognize that it's silly.
[02:47:58] No, I said Ted Cruz on purpose because Ted Cruz was complaining about Mao Zedong too.
[02:48:15] Trump official asked how they're targeting Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization
[02:48:18] given it's unclear what Antifa even is.
[02:48:20] Basically a foreign terrorist organization, we have three components, it has to be foreign,
[02:48:23] it has to be terrorist, it has to be an organization.
[02:48:25] really exist. And you just named Antifa Aust. I was wondering, is it that a different group
[02:48:31] or what is the intelligence that the U.S. has that Antifa does exist?
[02:48:36] Yeah, well, we have those designations. They're designations on the basis of our statutes,
[02:48:42] on the basis of violent acts that members of those groups committed. By the way, I think
[02:48:49] They're all also designated as terrorist groups
[02:48:52] by countries in Europe.
[02:48:56] And so the other thing about this
[02:48:58] is basically a foreign terrorist organization.
[02:49:01] We have to have these three components.
[02:49:02] It has to be foreign, it has to be terrorist,
[02:49:03] it has to be an organization.
[02:49:05] And all four of these groups met that test.
[02:49:08] And we see this as something that will keep America safe
[02:49:12] and secure, and we're looking at actively
[02:49:15] at more designations.
[02:49:17] what I know about.
[02:49:21] Have you know, Deezus sir, why McCarthyism fell out of favor?
[02:49:24] PBS five minute clip explanation.
[02:49:26] Those who never watched TV during the day were glued
[02:49:29] to watching the Army and McCarthy hearings.
[02:49:33] The television moment of the Army and McCarthy hearings
[02:49:35] that has lived in memory ever since is the famous moment
[02:49:39] on June 9th, 1954, when McCarthy decides to violate
[02:49:44] an agreement that Cone and Welch had come to before the hearings.
[02:49:49] Roy Cone, although of perfect draft, Trump's guy age,
[02:49:54] had managed to avoid the Korean War and the draft afterwards.
[02:50:01] It was kind of astonishing.
[02:50:04] Joe Welch said, fine, I will never bring up your draft status.
[02:50:09] But we have a problem of our own.
[02:50:11] We have a young attorney named Fred Fisher,
[02:50:14] who was a member of a communist front group
[02:50:17] while he was at Harvard Law School.
[02:50:19] And we brought him down to work on the committee.
[02:50:24] We decided that because of his past, we would send him home.
[02:50:29] And I would appreciate it if you would never
[02:50:31] bring up Fred Fisher.
[02:50:33] Throughout most of that afternoon,
[02:50:35] Roy Cohn and Joseph Welch have been having, you know,
[02:50:38] your basic nasty lawyerly argument.
[02:50:41] And Cohn's OK with it.
[02:50:44] Mr. Welch, sir, with great respect, I work for the committee here.
[02:50:49] They know how we go about handling situations of communist infiltration and failure to act
[02:50:55] on FBI information about communist infiltration.
[02:50:59] And may I add my small voice, sir, and say whenever you know about a subversive or a
[02:51:06] communist or a spy, please hurry.
[02:51:09] Will you remember those words?
[02:51:10] But McCarthy gets so angry at Welch's badgering of Roy Cohn that he blurts out the name of
[02:51:18] Fred Fisher.
[02:51:19] If you look at Welch's request, I think we should tell him that he has Edie's law firm,
[02:51:30] a young man named Fisher, who has been for a number of years a member of an organization
[02:51:40] which was named old years and years ago as the legal bulwark of the Communist Party and I
[02:51:49] have hesitated to bring that up but I have been rather bored with your phony request to Mr. Cohen
[02:51:58] here. Little did I dream you could be so reckless and so cruel as to do an injury to that land.
[02:52:08] It is true he is still with Hale and Dore. It is true that he will continue to be with Hale and Dore.
[02:52:17] It is I regret to say equally true that I fear he shall always bear a scar, needlessly inflicted by you.
[02:52:28] You look at Roy Cohn's face and you will see him go, oh my god no, please no.
[02:52:37] But McCarthy won't stop, he keeps attacking.
[02:52:41] I want to say, Mr. Welch, that it has been labeled long before he became a member as early
[02:52:51] as 1944.
[02:52:52] Senator, may we not drop this?
[02:52:55] I get you, I think, no personally, Mr. Cole.
[02:52:58] No, sir.
[02:52:59] And if I did, I beg your pardon.
[02:53:02] Let us not assassinate this lad further.
[02:53:05] Senator Goodwin, with you have done enough.
[02:53:08] Have you no sense of decency, sir?
[02:53:12] At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
[02:53:21] You could see Joe McCarthy going.
[02:53:24] The answer is yes, by the way, he does not have any sense of decency, he does not have,
[02:53:30] he has no decency, he has none.
[02:53:34] Giant piece of shit.
[02:53:36] Yeah, if we're doing House Un-American activity stuff, this is the definitive video, Paul
[02:53:42] Robeson.
[02:53:43] Are you now a member of the Communist Party?
[02:53:44] Oh, please, please, please.
[02:53:45] Please answer William, Mr. Robeson.
[02:53:48] What is the Communist Party?
[02:53:50] What do you mean by that?
[02:53:52] Are you now a member of the Commencement Office?
[02:53:54] Would you like to come to the ballot box when I vote and take out the ballot and see?
[02:53:59] Mr. Chairman, I respectfully suggest the witness be directed to answer the question.
[02:54:03] You are directed to answer the question.
[02:54:05] I invoke the Fifth Amendment and forget it.
[02:54:07] I respectfully suggest the witness be directed to answer the question, whether if he gave
[02:54:12] us a truthful answer, he would be supplying information, which might be used against him
[02:54:16] in a criminal proceeding.
[02:54:18] You are directed to answer, Mr. Ruffin.
[02:54:21] In the first place, wherever I've been in the world, the first to die in the struggle against fascism were the communists.
[02:54:31] I laid many wreaths.
[02:54:34] By the way, James Earl Jones is so fucking bass dude. Respect to my goat.
[02:54:39] This is dramatized by him, right? It's like recreated by James Earl Jones, right? He's doing the voice.
[02:54:46] Uh, he does the uh, the, the Frederick Douglass, uh, he, he does the, what, uh, to a slave
[02:54:57] is the 4th of July as well.
[02:54:59] Shout out to democracy now.
[02:55:02] Upon the graves of communists, that is not criminal.
[02:55:07] Chief Justice Warren has been very clear that the Fifth Amendment does not have anything
[02:55:12] to do with the influence of criminality and I invoke the Fifth Amendment.
[02:55:17] Have you ever been known under the name of John Thomas?
[02:55:20] Oh please, does somebody here want me to put up a perjury someplace?
[02:55:24] John Thomas, my name is Paul Robson and anything I have to say, I have said in public all over
[02:55:30] the world and that is why I'm here today.
[02:55:32] Mr. Chairman, I ask that you direct the witness to answer the question he's making.
[02:55:35] I ask you to affirm or deny the fact that your Communist Party name is John Thomas.
[02:55:39] I invoke the Fifth Amendment.
[02:55:40] This is really ridiculous.
[02:55:42] The witness talks very loud when he makes a speech, but when he invokes a fifth amendment,
[02:55:46] I can't hear him.
[02:55:47] I have medals for diction.
[02:55:50] I can talk plenty loud.
[02:55:51] Well you talk a little louder.
[02:55:53] I invoke the fifth amendment loudly.
[02:55:56] Sir, who are Mr. and Mrs. Vladimir?
[02:55:58] I invoke the fifth amendment.
[02:56:00] Do you know a manning Johnson?
[02:56:01] I invoke the fifth amendment.
[02:56:03] Do you know Gregory Keifetz?
[02:56:05] I invoke the fifth amendment.
[02:56:06] Do you know a Max Juergen?
[02:56:08] I invoke the fifth amendment.
[02:56:09] Max Juergen.
[02:56:10] i don't have any people here to be cross-examined
[02:56:14] could i ask whether this is legal?
[02:56:16] this is not only legal but usual
[02:56:18] by unanimous vote this committee has been instructed to perform this very distasteful task
[02:56:23] to whom am i talking?
[02:56:24] you're speaking as a chairman of the committee
[02:56:26] Mr. Walter?
[02:56:28] the Pennsylvania Walter?
[02:56:30] representative of the steel workers?
[02:56:32] and the coal mining workers?
[02:56:35] not united states steel by any chance
[02:56:39] Our great patriot.
[02:56:40] That is right.
[02:56:41] You are the author of the bills that are going to keep all kinds of decent people out of
[02:56:45] the country.
[02:56:46] No, only your kind.
[02:56:47] Colored people like myself, and you would let in the two tonic Anglo-Saxon stock.
[02:56:52] We are trying to make it easier to get rid of your kind, too.
[02:56:56] You don't want any colored people to come in.
[02:57:00] Could I be allowed to read from my statement?
[02:57:03] Will you just tell this committee, please, while under oath, Mr. Robson, the Communist
[02:57:08] participated in the preparation of that statement. Oh, please. The reason I'm here today, from
[02:57:14] the mouth of the State Department itself, is I should not be allowed to travel because
[02:57:20] I have struggled for the independence of the colonial peoples of Africa. The other reason
[02:57:25] I'm here today, again, from the State Department and from the record of the Court of Appeals,
[02:57:31] is that when I am abroad, I speak out against injustices against the legal people in this
[02:57:36] land. That is why I'm here. I'm not being tried for whether I'm a communist. I'm being
[02:57:42] tried for fighting for the rights of my people who are still second-class citizens in this
[02:57:46] country, in this United States of America. My mother was born in your state and my mother
[02:57:51] was a quicker. My ancestors in the time of Washington baked bread for George Washington's
[02:57:57] troops when they crossed the Delaware. My father was a slave. I stand here struggling
[02:58:04] for the rights of my people, to be full citizens in this country.
[02:58:08] And we are not.
[02:58:10] We are not in Mississippi.
[02:58:12] We are not in Montgomery, Alabama.
[02:58:14] We are not in Washington.
[02:58:15] We are nowhere.
[02:58:16] And that is why I'm here today.
[02:58:19] You want to shut up every Negro who has the courage
[02:58:21] to stand up and fight for the rights of his people,
[02:58:24] for the rights of workers.
[02:58:24] And I have been on many a picket line for the steel workers,
[02:58:27] too.
[02:58:28] And that is why I'm here today.
[02:58:30] Would you tell us whether or not you know Thomas W. Young
[02:58:34] will be put the amendment. Thomas W. Young is a Negro president of the guide publishing
[02:58:39] company. I'd like to read you his testimony quote, Paul Robeson has no moral right to
[02:58:46] place in jeopardy the welfare of the American Negro to advance a foreign cause in the eyes
[02:58:50] of the Negro. Classic technique. Subvert infiltrate, grab someone who's a loyalist.
[02:58:59] If they're not a loyalist, turn them into one by threatening them, have them, admonish,
[02:59:05] have them attack.
[02:59:08] Oh, your allies are attacking you.
[02:59:11] What do you say for yourself?
[02:59:13] Your allies are the ones who are calling you out.
[02:59:23] These tactics have been deployed in the past quite successfully, and they are being deployed
[02:59:28] once again.
[02:59:29] I whenever I hear people go well, I don't know you should you have worn that suit. I'm like who gives a fuck
[02:59:35] The goddamn federal government the State Department is once again trying to redo this exact same thing
[02:59:44] Because they're fucking terrified. They're terrified of democracy. That's what they're terrified of at the end of the day
[02:59:51] They're terrified of your voices being heard
[02:59:54] Yes, he went to Rutgers Paul Robeson did yeah
[02:59:59] It's not about the fucking suit. Wake the fuck up.
[03:00:09] People this false prophet is unfaithful to their country and they repudiate him close quote
[03:00:15] Do you know the man that said I invoke the fifth the minute now?
[03:00:21] Can I read my statement?
[03:00:23] It is a sad and bitter comment while you were in Paris in
[03:00:28] 1949 mr. Robson did you tell an audience the American Negro would never go to war against the Soviet man
[03:00:34] I say that is slightly out of context
[03:00:37] Yeah, I explained to you what I did say. I remember this speech very well. 2000 students
[03:00:44] who came from populations that would range to 600 or 700 dog. They they invented. I feel
[03:00:50] like the House of American Activity Committee invented clip chipping. Okay. They were the
[03:00:55] ones who invented it.
[03:00:58] They were doing clips out of comics even back then. Oh my God.
[03:01:05] People asked me to say in their name that they did not want war. No part of my speech
[03:01:14] in Paris says 15 million American Negroes would do anything for the, for the people
[03:01:19] who are looking at the Fox News, Fox News, Facebook account getting roasted to death
[03:01:23] over a soup post in real time. Can you send me screenshots? I want to see.
[03:01:27] I would love to see the Facebook normies cooking Fox News at my best.
[03:01:31] I never thought I would see the day.
[03:01:34] I said it was my feeling that the American people would struggle for
[03:01:37] peace. And that has been since underscored by the president of these
[03:01:41] United States. Non-passing.
[03:01:44] I said, you know, any people who want war, listen to me.
[03:01:48] I said it was unthinkable to me that any people could take up arms in the
[03:01:53] the name of a man like Senator Eastman of Mississippi, I guess everybody.
[03:01:58] Gentlemen, I still say that.
[03:02:01] This United States government should go to Mississippi and protect my people.
[03:02:06] That is what it should be.
[03:02:07] I led before you, sir, an article, quote, I am looking for full freedom, unquote, by
[03:02:13] Paul Robson in The Worker.
[03:02:15] July 3, 1949, quote, I said it was unthinkable that the Negro people of America or elsewhere
[03:02:22] could be drawn into war with the Soviet Union. I repeat, it with a hundredfold emphasis they
[03:02:27] will not close quote. And gentlemen they have not. It is clear that no Americans are going
[03:02:34] to go to war with the Soviet Union. While you were in Stockholm did you make a little speech?
[03:02:38] I made all kinds of speeches. Let me read you a quote. Let me listen. Do so please. I am a lawyer.
[03:02:43] It would be a revelation if you would listen to counsel. In good company I usually listen,
[03:02:48] But you know people wander around in such fancy places.
[03:02:52] You said, Mr. Robson, and I quote, I belong to the American resistance movement which
[03:02:56] fights against American imperialism, just as the resistance movement fought against
[03:03:01] Hitler.
[03:03:02] Just like those that were Douglas and Harriet Tubman were underground real rulers and fighting
[03:03:07] for our freedom, you bet your life.
[03:03:08] I have to insist that you listen to these questions.
[03:03:11] I am listening.
[03:03:12] I quote further, why should the Negroes ever fight against the only nation in the world
[03:03:17] where racial discrimination is prohibited. And where the people can't.
[03:03:21] Is this the new Tansuit? Well, if you can't argue as Paul, this tag is fashion, I guess.
[03:03:27] The fact that he personally did this with the intention of triggering the right, the
[03:03:29] fact that they're falling for so well is just classic. It's the same thing as Obama's Tansuit.
[03:03:33] First Tansuit, now this snowflakes, IS Fox, the fashion police network. Is it a Tansuit?
[03:03:38] It's just a jacket. Isn't that the dog shocker guy? Oh my God. Well, at least it wasn't Tans.
[03:03:42] the Lord. The joke writes itself, fashion police. Y'all are the type to complain about
[03:03:47] a tan suit too. Is it a tan suit? Remember the Obama tan suit thing? He's winning. That's
[03:03:52] not Milesile suit. That's the Son Yet Sen suit. Dr. Son Yet Sen is the founding father who
[03:03:57] started the revolution. He's the founding father of the ROC and also considered the founding
[03:04:01] father of the PRC.
[03:04:02] Hasan is a badass. I'm really helping this beginning of the new American era of politics
[03:04:07] where politicians actually care about the citizens and they're just trying to fatten
[03:04:10] their wallets the fittest fire he should have worn a suit in tan suit it's the
[03:04:14] season you know is it worse than the tan suit he's trolling you guys lamout it's
[03:04:19] called fashion sweaty so for parker get a job and all the fucking dumbass liberals
[03:04:24] that are freaking the fuck out over what my sartorial choices are who refuse to
[03:04:29] hear what I'm actually saying in the speech ask yourself why normie liberals
[03:04:36] on fucking Facebook. Normie Liberals on Facebook understand the assignment in ways that you simply
[03:04:43] cannot comprehend. Perhaps you are too polarized against your left flank in ways that Normie
[03:04:52] Liberals simply are not. They know exactly what's going on. They know exactly what's going on.
[03:05:01] this is also the reason why, this is also the reason why I decided to be more hands-on with
[03:05:10] elections taking place in this midterm season, okay? In this midterm cycle, because normies
[03:05:17] are fucking fed up with anything and everything that is associated with the right. And a lot
[03:05:23] of these liberals don't understand that when they also channel the right wing frustrations,
[03:05:29] they repeat right-wing nonsense, right-wing propaganda against their fucking left flank.
[03:05:36] When they do that, they also look like assholes to most normies.
[03:05:46] Do you understand?
[03:05:50] The normie liberals are, they're done with this shit. They don't give a fuck. They're like,
[03:05:56] like, oh, I remember when you guys did this to Obama. Fox News, y'all back. Y'all back
[03:06:04] when you're speaking about a tire. Imagine the crash out of it was tan too. Actually,
[03:06:09] he's giving them advice on how to win. This is who the left thought Charlie Kirk was.
[03:06:14] I wouldn't be surprised to learn how Sampak is really a comedian doing some anti-covman
[03:06:17] style bit. He looks good as fucking it though. You guys are desperate. It's hilarious. Large
[03:06:21] political coalitions almost always contain influential figures who are outside of formal
[03:06:24] party leadership. Those figures can shape activists and primary voters even if many
[03:06:27] elected officials disagree with parts of their message. Many mainstream Democratic officials
[03:06:31] have criticized or disses themselves from him, while some progressive candidates and
[03:06:34] activists have chosen to work with him because it has influenced among younger voters. Republicans
[03:06:37] did the same thing with Tucker, with Carlson Tucker, Nick Fuentes and Steve Bannon. It's
[03:06:41] a suit, wanting about a suit, what a suit looks like, Lamal.
[03:06:53] Here's what matters at the end of the day. Does it look good? Okay, the answer is yes.
[03:07:03] The answer is fucking yes.
[03:07:10] Singapore import export, I am personally not a big fan of the suit.
[03:07:15] Maybe you are the one polarized against expanding import-export operations.
[03:07:18] Hi, I am a part of a very serious shipping conglomerate targeting Singaporean operations.
[03:07:24] Could you please confirm this stream is a safe space to share details?
[03:07:27] If not, we might rescind our invitation.
[03:07:29] Of course, it's the safest place.
[03:07:31] or import-export specifically in the beautiful city-state of Singapore because it wasn't
[03:07:36] imported from Singapore.
[03:07:37] True.
[03:07:38] True.
[03:07:39] And live freely, never.
[03:07:49] They will never fight against either the Soviet Union or the people's democracies.
[03:07:53] Close quote.
[03:07:54] Did you make that statement?
[03:07:56] I do not remember, but what is perfectly clear today is that 900 million people, other colored
[03:08:02] people, have told you they will not.
[03:08:05] 400 million in India, and millions everywhere have told you that.
[03:08:08] What is the answer to the question?
[03:08:09] He does need to make a speech.
[03:08:10] Did you write an article that was published in the USSR Information Bulletin?
[03:08:15] Yes.
[03:08:16] Quote, I want to emphasize that only here in the Soviet Union, did I feel that I was
[03:08:21] a real man with a capital M.
[03:08:23] Close quote.
[03:08:24] I would say, what is your name?
[03:08:28] Aaron.
[03:08:29] I am quite willing to answer the question.
[03:08:32] When I was a singer years ago, and this you would have to listen to.
[03:08:37] I am listening.
[03:08:38] I am a bass singer, and so for me, it was Choleopin, the great Russian bass.
[03:08:44] Not Cluj, so the tenor.
[03:08:46] I learned the Russian language to sing their songs.
[03:08:50] I wish you would listen now.
[03:08:51] Mr. Chairman, I ask you to direct the witness to answer the question.
[03:08:53] I asked for order.
[03:08:54] The great port of Russia is of African blood.
[03:08:57] It is a property of Spain, this.
[03:09:00] Did you make that statement?
[03:09:01] When I first went to Russia in 1934.
[03:09:03] Did you make that statement?
[03:09:04] When I first went to Russia in 1934.
[03:09:05] Did you make that statement?
[03:09:06] In Russia, I felt for the first time like a full human being.
[03:09:10] No color prejudice, like in Mississippi.
[03:09:13] No color prejudice, like in Washington.
[03:09:15] It was the first time I felt like a human being.
[03:09:19] It's your fault.
[03:09:20] I have to follow the pressure of color as I feel it in this committee today.
[03:09:24] Why do you not stay in Russia?
[03:09:26] Because my father was a slave and my people died to build this country.
[03:09:31] And I'm going to stay here and have a part of it just like you and no fascist minded
[03:09:36] people will drive me from it.
[03:09:38] Is that clear?
[03:09:39] You are here because you are promoting the communist cause.
[03:09:41] I am here because I am opposing the neo-fascist cause which I see arising in these committees.
[03:09:48] Jemison could be sitting here and Stedrick Douglas could be sitting here Eugene Debs could be sitting here now
[03:09:54] What prejudice are you talking about? You were graduated from one group. You were graduated from the University of Pennsylvania
[03:09:59] I remember seeing you play football at Lehigh. There was no prejudice against you just a moment
[03:10:04] This is something I challenge very deeply that the success of a few Negroes can make up for
[03:10:10] $700 a year for thousands of Negro families in the South
[03:10:14] My father was a slave and I have cousins who are chef croppers. I do not see success in terms of myself
[03:10:22] I have sacrificed hundreds of thousands of dollars for what I believe in while you were in Moscow, Mr.
[03:10:29] Robes, and you make a speech loading Stalin. I can't remember. So I suspect we're gonna have another house on American
[03:10:37] Activities Committee and this time instead of Moscow the question will be Havana
[03:10:44] Have you recently changed?
[03:10:46] This is what they're trying to redo
[03:10:49] Okay, this is what they are trying to redo. I guess another another Rutgers graduate might be in the fucking crosshairs of
[03:10:56] The State Department once again another Rutgers graduate with anti-imperialist ideals
[03:11:02] is in the
[03:11:04] the crossers of the State Department.
[03:11:06] Now, of course, the main,
[03:11:08] try to be half as base, I will never.
[03:11:10] I would never, I would, I am not fit to be,
[03:11:14] I am not fit to be the fucking,
[03:11:17] that I don't have enough,
[03:11:20] enough revolutionary in my entire body
[03:11:24] that Paul Robeson had in his pinky finger, okay?
[03:11:31] My point is, the situation is deteriorated in America,
[03:11:34] the conditions are worse, even the senators, even the politicians that are sitting on the
[03:11:40] House on American Activities Committee are far more literate than their current versions
[03:11:47] are.
[03:11:48] Okay?
[03:11:49] Stalin, gentlemen, is a question for the Soviet Union and I won't argue with a representative
[03:12:01] of the people who in building America wasted the lives of my people.
[03:12:05] You are responsible, you and your poor bears, for 60 to 100 million black people dying in
[03:12:12] the slave ships and on the plantations.
[03:12:14] Don't you ask me about anybody?
[03:12:15] I'm sure you wouldn't want to discuss with us the slave labor camps in the Soviet Union.
[03:12:19] Nothing could go more unslavery than this society. I assure you.
[03:12:22] I would invite your attention to the daily worker of June 20, 1949,
[03:12:26] with reference to a get-together with you and Ben Davis, formerly Communist Councilman in New York.
[03:12:31] Do you know Ben Davis?
[03:12:32] One of my dearest friends, he is as patriotic and American as can be,
[03:12:36] a new gentleman of the non-patriot.
[03:12:38] Just a minute.
[03:12:39] You are the un-American.
[03:12:41] The hearing is now adjourned.
[03:12:42] I think it should be.
[03:12:43] think it should be. I've endured all of this and I can't. Can I read my statement? No!
[03:12:47] The meeting is adjourned. It should be.
[03:13:04] The goat. The goat himself. Um, uh, um.
[03:13:13] Why it worked last time, why it was allowed to happen, was because capital in America was on the upswing, now how will they sell a house on American activities when conditions have deteriorated so much?
[03:13:27] Well, there's also no real threat that Americans can feel because the USSR and the United States
[03:13:40] of America were not interlinked by way of trade in the way that we are with China.
[03:13:48] The USSR was not responsible for 30% of all trade in the United States of America.
[03:13:56] You cannot turn Havana and Cuba into the USSR and the minds of Americans.
[03:14:03] The more they talk about Cuba and the threat of Cuba, the more they try to push for military
[03:14:09] action against Cuba, the more the average American will say, why are we wasting our
[03:14:13] resources this way?
[03:14:15] Maybe even more Americans will think, why are we starving the Cuban population this
[03:14:20] way?
[03:14:25] That's it.
[03:14:28] There is no imminent threat from our foreign adversaries that's out there.
[03:14:35] Even the ones who we are waging war against right now, direct war, Iran.
[03:14:41] Most Americans don't like Iran, but also a far greater percentage of Americans don't
[03:14:47] want to wage war with Iran, okay?
[03:14:51] They don't have the same smoke.
[03:14:59] That's it.
[03:15:02] And if this continues, more Americans will have a far higher degree of negative feelings
[03:15:09] towards Israel than they do any for an adversary.
[03:15:24] Cultural depictions of the Red Scare have always been a historical.
[03:15:31] What is this?
[03:15:32] This is from the DC Examiner.
[03:15:34] America needs a new Red Scare.
[03:15:37] the pictures of the Red Scare have always been a historical, take its most famous moment,
[03:15:40] State Department Laura Joseph Welch confronting Joe McCarthy with Have You No Sense of Decency.
[03:15:44] What popular depictions always leave out is that Commies had infiltrated the State Department
[03:15:48] as many as other, as well as many of our other institutions. Yeah, I mean, this is the DC
[03:15:55] Examiner demanding a new Red Scare and presenting me as like the guy presenting me as the primary
[03:16:04] reason for why we must have it. Meanwhile, liberals, by and large, that are at the center
[03:16:10] of power in the Democratic Party, the oppositional force in this fucking country, are leaning
[03:16:15] into it as well.
[03:16:17] Candidates who associated with Son continue to win. Yeah, this is Parker to get a job.
[03:16:27] Son, do you know a question? How is it beneficial to any good movement for you to wear a Mao
[03:16:31] outfit? This just seems like rage bay for Cleggs. Do you realize that?
[03:16:34] looks bad for DC Kansas because they associate with you do you want to make it harder or easier for them
[03:16:38] candidates who associated with the song continue to win because of what they're fighting for
[03:16:42] Hasan has been wearing the Zhongchuan suit for over a year you are only hearing about it now
[03:16:46] due to manufactured outreach from republicans and centrist democrats who are now panicking no one
[03:16:50] actually cares about this exactly
[03:16:53] If you are a self-identifying liberal, if you're progressive in any way, shape, or form,
[03:17:10] you should probably shy away from leaning into silly-ass Republican or reactionary.
[03:17:18] Let's not just say Republican.
[03:17:20] Let's call it what it is, reactionary, manufactured outrage.
[03:17:24] Because it's not just the Republicans that fall mercy to reactionary opinions.
[03:17:31] Democrats do it too.
[03:17:32] Liberals do it all the time.
[03:17:37] Exercise a little bit of critical thinking.
[03:17:41] You are complaining about sartorial choices at a time when the American government is
[03:17:49] demanding that anyone to the left of Nancy Pelosi and perhaps even Nancy Pelosi be imprisoned
[03:17:57] for thought crimes. Wake the fuck up.
[03:18:14] What is this? Mr. Avi is breaking the Odyssey's faking ticket sales by buying up theaters
[03:18:19] slice seats fraud to make the movie look like a success.
[03:18:22] They've reached a part of the culture war co-op where they just have to start making
[03:18:25] shit up to continue making content.
[03:18:26] Yeah.
[03:18:27] That's why I said, very cool that the State Department is talking about blacklist pre-crime
[03:18:35] and re-implementing the McCarthy trials while liberals on this website have joined hands
[03:18:38] with Ted Cruz and the entire GOP to freak out about a Chinese suit I wore.
[03:18:42] They are putting all of us in the camps, dumbasses.
[03:19:01] The myth of consensual Zhongshan suit wearing.
[03:19:04] Chinese people love us on Rebing the Zhongshan suit while everyone from liberals or right
[03:19:07] Wingers is faking outrage. Yes. Yes. Crystal ball cooked Adam Smith. I saw. You awarded
[03:19:31] the streamer awards. I know. And people freaked out back then about it too.
[03:19:41] Do you believe if someone wears clothing associated with a historical figure,
[03:19:44] they're endorsing that figure's worst actions? I mean, look,
[03:19:48] this is an argument to try to be like,
[03:19:50] this is an argument to try to be like, oh,
[03:19:52] what if someone was wearing a Hitler suit? Yeah, that would be different. Okay.
[03:19:55] And someone has done that for the record. His name is Greg Bovino.
[03:19:59] and the worst thing that he did was certainly not wearing fucking Nazi garb the worst thing he did was kill
[03:20:06] American citizens with ice and
[03:20:11] kill non-citizens and and
[03:20:14] Deport them and throw them in the fucking concentration camps and brag about it. Okay?
[03:20:29] change the suit, change the word suit for the word Israel suddenly not so funny is it yes
[03:20:49] unfortunately many Americans are unbelievably reactionary it's a fucking relitigating the
[03:20:56] 10 suit discourse for some strange reason at a time when the fascist state is basically
[03:21:02] salivating at the prospect of jailing every fucking dissident.
[03:21:08] The Democratic Socialist of America, using a century old Trotskyist tactic to infiltrate
[03:21:11] and subvert the Democratic Party, it's time to throw them out, says James Kerchick.
[03:21:19] So they should run third party.
[03:21:20] I thought you guys hated that too.
[03:21:23] Yeah, meanwhile, Labor did this in the UK and they received devastating results as a consequence
[03:21:29] of that.
[03:21:32] Striking this about, uh, striking thing about the centrist meltdown is that the dastardly
[03:21:35] thing socialists are doing is winning elections.
[03:21:38] Their solution isn't to win via democratic process, it's to simply expel them.
[03:21:42] Part of a now long list of e.g.s of party centers, hostility, and democracy.
[03:21:47] You know what's ironic?
[03:21:48] They want democratic centralism.
[03:21:51] That's what they want.
[03:21:53] But without the robust debate internally within the party, they just want party line loyalty
[03:22:01] without even having an argument about where or which direction the party is supposed to
[03:22:06] go towards.
[03:22:07] Okay?
[03:22:08] They don't want democratic centralism.
[03:22:11] They want centrist centralism.
[03:22:13] That's all they want.
[03:22:18] So no, I won't even say this is like the Communist Party of China, because at least internally
[03:22:24] within the Communist Party of China, there is robust debate.
[03:22:30] There's also a performance-based aspect to different provinces.
[03:22:36] The party is consistently retooling policy, seeing what works, seeing what doesn't work,
[03:22:44] and moving in that direction.
[03:22:45] It's an unbelievably efficient system.
[03:22:49] It's not exactly my favorite system, but you can't deny the results.
[03:22:55] But of course, you can't even have this sort of conversation in America, because when you
[03:22:58] bring this kind of stuff up, America's go, what the fuck?
[03:23:02] You're decriding the CCP.
[03:23:04] It's like, no, I just understand, because I'm not a fucking dumbass.
[03:23:08] I at least have done a little bit of reading to try to comprehend why this behemoth of
[03:23:14] a superpower rose to such prominence over such a short period of time.
[03:23:19] Because I'm intellectually fucking curious, unlike you.
[03:23:22] Liberals used to care about this sort of thing.
[03:23:25] Liberals is number one criticism against the Republicans is that they're fucking illiterate
[03:23:28] monsters.
[03:23:30] And now all of a sudden, they're behaving in the exact same way.
[03:23:34] You don't have to agree with the People's Republic of China and its policy making structure.
[03:23:39] Aren't you curious as to how they operate?
[03:24:00] Every poster adds 10 million in a death count.
[03:24:02] Of course, this guy likes Mao.
[03:24:04] Let's not forget Mao, who Mao was a communist responsible for the death of more than 70
[03:24:08] people through starvation. There's no room for the Democratic Party for anyone who embraces
[03:24:13] Mao and no room for Piker, period. Yeah, Josh Gottheimer feels probably a little called
[03:24:18] out about the Israel line in that speech.
[03:24:25] Yes, Mao killed 400 million quintrillion mega gazillion people.
[03:24:39] Ugh.
[03:24:43] No, she makes every decision and Stalin has a big spoon.
[03:24:49] Yes.
[03:24:52] As China's prosperity becomes undeniable as the rest of the world, including the western world,
[03:25:06] moves in the direction of China. It would be very important for every American to study
[03:25:16] Chinese history to understand the Chinese revolution, the Communist revolution, to understand
[03:25:23] how the Communist Party of China has developed itself.
[03:25:30] There is a lot of worthy lessons to learn from that, okay?
[03:25:36] That's it.
[03:25:37] And it's very frustrating that a lot of these liberals, just like the Republicans that
[03:25:43] they are disgusted by, engage in the same exact type of thought, terminating nonsense.
[03:26:13] Atlantic Council's Jamie Metzl called on a Kim Jeffries to lead the charge against what he called extremist radicals running on the party line, not on YouTube yet.
[03:26:20] yet.
[03:26:38] Yeah it's funny because the Pentagon is fucking broke.
[03:26:41] The Pentagon sinking billions into the Iran war is quickly running short on cash.
[03:26:45] They're running out on interceptors as well.
[03:26:48] then and on top of that they're running out on standoff munitions too so what's
[03:26:55] gonna happen when we have no offense no defense whatsoever in a final act of
[03:27:00] desperation I worry that America's military strategy it's aerial bombardment
[03:27:06] strategy is gonna turn into YOLO mode where they just fucking send as many
[03:27:11] planes as possible over the Iranian airspace and just have them get fucking
[03:27:16] peppered by Iranian anti-air defenses. Do you understand? We haven't fully achieved
[03:27:30] that last beast mode mentality just yet, okay? We've been a little bit more careful with
[03:27:38] our aerial bombardment campaigns, I suspect we won't be as careful
[03:27:49] in the future.
[03:28:04] I'm in to me not knowing enough about China, but I'm hesitant to say learn from China.
[03:28:08] We should be specific about what we mean because their government is sided with human rights
[03:28:11] issues.
[03:28:12] I don't know.
[03:28:13] Maybe that's wrong.
[03:28:14] China is the most abundance country on the fucking planet, okay?
[03:28:20] They have a performance-based party structure.
[03:28:23] They have a one-party system, obviously.
[03:28:25] Okay?
[03:28:26] So, ultimately, if you want to work within, if you want to become a politician, you have
[03:28:32] to start off at the local level.
[03:28:33] That's a very competitive and unbelievably difficult position to get.
[03:28:39] But you basically start off in local governance where there are very competitive elections,
[03:28:46] and then you work your way through the party.
[03:28:48] And it's a very meritocratic performance-based system, especially at the local level.
[03:28:55] If you are not on the ball, if you drop the ball in any meaningful capacity, they will
[03:29:01] vote you out.
[03:29:02] You're done.
[03:29:03] And these guys, they work their way through this process.
[03:29:14] It's a very competitive process and the competition is around performance.
[03:29:21] What you are delivering for your constituents, what you're delivering for your province.
[03:29:26] There is obviously a top-down approach to long-term goals.
[03:29:30] the five-year plans, where they're like, this is what we're going to focus on, we're going
[03:29:36] to focus on eradicating poverty, we're going to focus on building a health care system,
[03:29:40] right? Let's say that's the goal. Then they deliver those goals to every single province.
[03:29:49] And from that point on, the party officials' goals, the party officials' goals are basically
[03:29:55] deliver that agenda. Your constituent services in the CCP blow out every, blow out the very
[03:30:03] best America has to offer as an entry line. Yes.
[03:30:10] Anyway, I'm not Chinese. Contrary to popular opinion, contrary to what my haters say, I'm
[03:30:24] I'm not Chinese, I'm an American.
[03:30:26] So I'm gonna get back to worrying about American issues, specifically about how the current
[03:30:31] American government is making an even greater mistake potentially.
[03:30:36] They didn't even bother hitting Pickaxe Mountain during the war because it was so deeply buried
[03:30:40] that it was pointless and the site was not even discussed as a result, even though every
[03:30:44] casual observer of this topic was aware of it.
[03:30:47] Now because a journalist in his really intelligence leagues brought it to Trump's attention for
[03:30:50] the first time, he's going to burn more munitions firing a solid granite or temporarily disabling
[03:30:56] a tunnel entrance. Also, if Iran was rushing towards nuclear deterrent now, they would
[03:31:00] not do so at a known site, and they also would not need a large facility like this to do
[03:31:06] it.
[03:31:08] The only people Trump seemingly listens to is Mark Dubowitz, the FDD, Benjamin Netanyahu,
[03:31:15] and I guess Israeli intelligence.
[03:31:18] In the best case scenario, Trump puts a conventional fireworks show on Pickaxe Mountain, declares
[03:31:22] it obliterated victory and withdraws from the war.
[03:31:25] Just about every other scenario that isn't Trump capitulates again, gets worse and worse
[03:31:29] for everyone.
[03:31:31] Yes.
[03:31:33] I'm sorry, this is kind of what we voted for, okay?
[03:31:38] You vote for a fucking dumbass, he's gonna do dumbass shit.
[03:31:43] You make the face of the movement, the face of the unitary executive theory, a guy like
[03:31:51] Donald Trump, he's gonna take advantage of that consolidation of power and do stupid
[03:31:56] shit, especially when he's easily manipulated by foreign actors, specifically in this case,
[03:32:03] Israel.
[03:32:04] If you allow Israel for years and years to have unprecedented influential capabilities
[03:32:11] in the highest ranks of office in this god damn country
[03:32:14] one day they're gonna find a guy just as stupid as donald trump all of this
[03:32:21] could have been prevented we could have stopped the republicans from trying to
[03:32:24] consolidate power in the hands of the executive we could have stopped our
[03:32:27] endless war mongering
[03:32:29] at any point but we chose not to do so
[03:32:32] president after president whether they're democrat or republican doesn't
[03:32:36] matter only continued
[03:32:37] in this direction
[03:32:39] Wars go unquestioned. When the executive decides to go to war, no one can say a damn thing about it.
[03:32:47] This has always been the case. Barack Obama followed through on this as well after George W. Bush
[03:32:52] didn't even prosecute the Bush administration. Then Trump came into office and he continued
[03:32:58] on that same trajectory. Every single problem that you can point to right now under Donald Trump
[03:33:07] is a problem that a previous administration refused to solve. Okay? And now that we have a
[03:33:13] fucking clown as the goddamn president, well, I guess we got to enjoy the circus.
[03:33:22] That's it. We got to enjoy the goddamn circus, I guess.
[03:33:29] We put the fucking clown makeup on.
[03:33:31] Yeah, now we got a damn cheeto in the White House a dang cheeto in the fucking White House
[03:33:47] And we don't even have the bread no bread all circus fantastic
[03:33:54] Notice that $150 billion for ice and mass deportation isn't crazy, half the Dems voted to thank them. Yes. Yes. Of course.
[03:34:05] Sorry, no bread. All circus. Money for the bread went to ice. So that the dang Cheeto and the White House could just come into your neighborhood and occupy it with a fucking foreign military power.
[03:34:22] or occupy it with his alien force and kill your neighbors in the process of kidnapping
[03:34:30] them.
[03:34:33] That's where we're at.
[03:34:51] If Iran completely destroys the tankers, then the US has no strike aircraft within the range
[03:34:56] of Tehran.
[03:34:57] After they run out of standoff munitions, I expect America to just continue to bomb
[03:35:00] the coast and avoid sending any sorties into the heart of the country.
[03:35:03] I mean, I don't think Iran is going to be able to completely destroy the tankers.
[03:35:09] We have a big ass fleet.
[03:35:10] But who knows?
[03:35:12] Who knows?
[03:35:16] Here things have happened.
[03:35:26] Van made a video echoing this post, echoing what post.
[03:35:33] Socialist summer part 2, why the freak out dude, Van Jones was a fucking malice third
[03:35:38] world as man.
[03:35:41] Between me and him, he's the only one who was ever a malice.
[03:35:44] Let's see what this malice-thriller world
[03:35:46] has to say now.
[03:35:47] All right, a quick message to my friends on the far left.
[03:35:52] Quit pooping in the Kool-Aid bowl
[03:35:54] and telling us that the turds are ice cubes.
[03:35:56] They're not ice cubes, and I want to talk about it.
[03:35:59] Van Jones on Substack.
[03:36:02] All right, guys, I got some stuff I want to get off my chest.
[03:36:05] I am tired, tired, tired of a set of people
[03:36:10] on the very far left in the Democratic Party, my party,
[03:36:13] telling us that in order for us to be progressives,
[03:36:16] we now have to believe ideas and support ideas
[03:36:19] that are completely nuts.
[03:36:21] I am a progressive Democrat.
[03:36:22] In other words, everything that's good in our party,
[03:36:26] I believe in have been believed in for a long time.
[03:36:28] Do I want universal healthcare, Medicare for all,
[03:36:31] whatever you wanna call it?
[03:36:32] Absolutely.
[03:36:33] If you are sick, you should be able to go see a doctor.
[03:36:35] That's a good idea.
[03:36:36] I want free education for everybody
[03:36:38] as long as they want to keep learning.
[03:36:41] I think that's a good idea.
[03:36:42] the Green New Deal, I'm the author of the Green New Deal.
[03:36:46] The Green New Deal is my phrase from my first book in 2008.
[03:36:50] There's nobody more committed to criminal justice reform
[03:36:53] than me, ecological solutions, the whole deal.
[03:36:56] These are our ideals as progressives.
[03:37:00] We should fight for them.
[03:37:01] We need them now more than ever.
[03:37:04] But what does it have to do with supporting Hamas?
[03:37:07] What does it have to do with putting up candidates
[03:37:10] say we should have no police, no prisons. We can't deport anybody even if they commit
[03:37:16] rape or murder. Israel shouldn't exist. These aren't terrible ideas. These are awful ideas.
[03:37:23] Where did these ideas even come from? You just listed the things the extreme left
[03:37:28] is looking for. We're just asking them to do them. Paralyzed, penned it plug. Thank
[03:37:36] Thank you for the 100 gift subs. God damn. Yeah, we know, we know what, uh, we know what
[03:37:44] Van Jones is fucking. Did Brogett Federman, he's been Federman. Are you kidding me? He
[03:37:47] got a hundred million dollars from Jeff Bezos. Are you kidding me? Jeff Bezos gave him a,
[03:37:53] a hundred million dollars for no reason. Like straight, well, not for no reason, not for
[03:38:00] no damn reason for this reason. Um, Glenn Greenwald had a good assessment of this video.
[03:38:06] I think, where is it? In 2009, Van Jones was forced to resign from the Obama admin after
[03:38:11] six months because Fox News and Established Democrats denounced him as a radical left due
[03:38:15] to his prior support in the 1990s for Mumia Abu Jamal, calling a GOP member an asshole,
[03:38:20] allegedly signing a petition suggesting Bush did 9-11, etc. His glaring, oozing career
[03:38:26] ambitions lay in the runes as he was kicked out of decent DC power centers for transgressing
[03:38:31] too many ideological lines, and compartmental rules.
[03:38:36] That's when he realized that the wealth and celebrity awaited him only if he were willing
[03:38:39] instead to transform himself into a vehement defender and guard of establishment dogma,
[03:38:44] a useful tool for those who had just struck him down.
[03:38:47] So that's exactly what he did.
[03:38:49] He renounced his prior radical views, repeatedly apologized for his transgressions, became
[03:38:53] a stalwart, weepy advocate of dearly DC media conventional wisdom, and began playing the
[03:38:58] new TV character his script required.
[03:39:01] the moderate, sensible, liberal, who just wants to bring everyone together in a safe
[03:39:07] status quo perpetuating middle.
[03:39:09] His real function to begin every sentence with, I'm progressive democratic, the subtext
[03:39:14] of black progressive democrat, and then denounce the populace left and populace right for crossing
[03:39:19] the political and ideological lines that he was told to vigorously police and uphold,
[03:39:24] the lines which nobody has permitted to cross without being denounced and excluded the way
[03:39:28] he once was.
[03:39:30] Look, they're too extreme even for Van Jones.
[03:39:33] He was there to protect his establishment bosses by punishing the excesses of the extremes
[03:39:37] on both sides, just as he had once been punished by them, almost to the point of career destruction.
[03:39:48] His service as the black progressive policeman for the DC establishment and his dual religious
[03:39:53] planks of corporatism and militarism were predictably very valuable for them and very
[03:39:58] lucrative for him.
[03:40:05] Where is it? Fuck.
[03:40:11] He got larger and larger CNN contracts. Jeff Bezos gave him a hundred million dollars
[03:40:17] to hand out to whoever he wanted.
[03:40:20] Jay-Z hired him to lead a new group, et cetera, et cetera. Book deals from large New York
[03:40:24] City publishing houses flowed in.
[03:40:27] Since October 2023, he saw the real opening, one that would catapult him upward even further
[03:40:32] into the top echelons of establishment servitude, turn himself into the most devoted liberal
[03:40:38] media loyalist to Israel, the most militant defender of Tel Aviv's reputation, as global
[03:40:43] support for that country collapsed.
[03:40:45] That is precisely what Van Joe's is doing.
[03:40:48] That is the lane he occupies.
[03:40:50] Glenn Greenwald, despite my back-and-forth arguments with Glenn at times, has fucking
[03:40:59] nailed it, okay?
[03:41:02] He is perhaps at his best when he's cooking establishment liberals from his position.
[03:41:09] He has deep disdain for these types.
[03:41:13] This is no notes, 100% a cook, okay?
[03:41:20] The most militant defender of Tel Aviv's reputation is global support for that country
[03:41:23] collapse.
[03:41:24] He dutifully wore his little yellow ribbon pin every day for years on TV as if it were
[03:41:28] tattooed on him.
[03:41:30] He cackled with Bill Maher about how annoying it is to keep hearing all this whining about
[03:41:33] dead babies in Gaza.
[03:41:36] With his patented fake TV tears in his eyes, he heralded Israel as our greatest ally and
[03:41:40] talked about how worried he was for his beloved Jewish friends as anti-Semitism grew on the
[03:41:44] left and the right.
[03:41:46] Now he's here to boast that the leaders in both parties called him this week the profusely
[03:41:49] thank him for his service to the bipartisan DC agenda.
[03:41:53] The ones want to be radical has fully transformed into a prime media instrument for the establishment
[03:41:59] that wants threatened to destroy him.
[03:42:02] Both parties are now grateful to him for defending their prerogatives and positions.
[03:42:06] One thing is for sure, other than Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, nobody's future is brighter
[03:42:10] at CNN.
[03:42:11] Once Larry Ellison's son buys up Warner Brothers and CNN and puts Barry Weiss in charge with
[03:42:16] the sole mandate to turn the network into an even more vigorous Israeli propaganda network
[03:42:21] than CBS has become.
[03:42:35] That's it.
[03:42:37] What can I say?
[03:42:39] No notes.
[03:42:41] Could this ever happen to you?
[03:42:42] What do you think?
[03:42:45] you think that I've had many pivot opportunities in my entire career? What have I done? What
[03:42:52] have I done every single time? I stood by my principles, okay? My entire, my, my entire
[03:43:01] quote unquote business strategy, if you want to call it that, is also designed in a way
[03:43:06] where I can maybe, to the best of my ability, overcome these sorts of outside pressures.
[03:43:13] That's why I'm accountable to you, okay?
[03:43:19] That's it.
[03:43:22] Why do you think I don't go after sponsorships?
[03:43:25] Why do you think I forgo any kind of ad spend or any kind of advertising initiatives whatsoever?
[03:43:38] There have been a million different instances where I could have easily pivoted and said,
[03:43:44] oh, look, I'm a former Muslim guy. Okay. In the early 2016 era, I could have started off
[03:43:49] by saying I'm a former militant, I'm a militant atheist and a former Muslim. I grew up in
[03:43:55] Turkey and I'm sure to tell you Islam is the most dangerous religion. Okay. I could have
[03:44:00] done that. That would have been a fantastic pivot point. Okay. I'm a good looking, white
[03:44:06] passing tall Muslim guy, former Muslim guy. Do you understand what kind of
[03:44:13] appetite there was for someone like myself?
[03:44:21] Why in the ever-loving fuck, why in the ever-loving fuck would I ever come out
[03:44:29] of the gates swinging for socialism and perhaps even more dangerous than
[03:44:33] socialism in general, anti-imperialism.
[03:44:37] Why would I speak out against Israel all the way back in 2014, 2015, 2016?
[03:44:42] Why would I speak out against Barack Obama's foreign interventions all the way back when?
[03:44:48] Why would I speak out against the mass deportation agenda first championed by Barack Obama and
[03:44:54] then by Donald Trump?
[03:44:55] There were a million opportunities for someone like myself to pivot away from that, to be
[03:45:00] a dog to the Democratic Party.
[03:45:03] be a radical centrist who would want to be in this position. Yes, I know from the outside,
[03:45:14] it's like, oh, dude, you got, uh, you know, you make a lot of money. Hasan, that's what
[03:45:19] people say, right? Sponsored by you, the people for you, the people, by the way, piker, broadcasting
[03:45:24] service, they say, oh, you make a lot of money. Hasan is true. Okay. But do you understand
[03:45:31] How little attacks I would fucking receive if I was a establishment media figurehead,
[03:45:37] which I very easily could have gotten to by this point. I've been doing this shit
[03:45:43] to an increasingly growing audience with a lot more real world impact over the last decade,
[03:45:49] but there were a million opportunities for someone like myself to renounce my former views.
[03:45:56] Do you know how much money I would have?
[03:45:58] Vanjo's a million dollars or I mean a hundred million dollars in his fucking bank account
[03:46:06] if I could cut it in independent media going my own way staying true to my values staying true to
[03:46:19] my moral compass what makes you think I couldn't fucking make a shit ton more money and receive
[03:46:28] no fucking pushback whatsoever. I've always told everyone you're a true believer, which
[03:46:33] is why we're so lucky to have you as our figurehead. Yeah, it's why it's so silly when people say,
[03:46:38] oh dude, you're fucking grifter, dude. Yeah, dude, definitely, definitely. I love grifting
[03:46:43] to an audience. I love grifting to an audience that is unbelievably skeptical. I love grifting
[03:46:50] by assuming perhaps one of the more unpopular positions in American politics that is now
[03:46:57] becoming popular, okay? Partially due to the shit that I've, the effort that I've
[03:47:04] put in, but the effort that you've put in, the effort that the SA has put in, it's
[03:47:08] becoming more mainstream now. But if you think, this is why I always yell at people,
[03:47:15] this is why I always yell at people who will say stuff like, dude, these people
[03:47:21] who are now turning on Israel or grifters, it's like, sure, there are some who are,
[03:47:26] Okay, but if I had that mentality if I had that mentality half of you would probably not be anti-Israel now
[03:47:36] Many of you had no fucking clue about what Israel was up to before October 7
[03:47:41] So remember you got to be a little bit more gracious for people who are you know going through their own journey to
[03:47:46] Oh my god CBS News Department just announced they're sending federal ages the monitor polling size in three Arizona counties for the midterm elections great
[03:48:16] There we go. I can't believe anyone debates Van Jones and Ernest instead of just cracking
[03:48:26] Joe Zabalbezo's game 100 million for no particular reason. Why are you working? Go buy a beach.
[03:48:31] Completely forgotten now, but Jones tried to get a liberal response to the Tea Party
[03:48:34] going in 2011 and it went nowhere. In retrospect, it feels like a preview of Indivisible. Liberals
[03:48:39] wanted to meet up and strategize, but he didn't follow through on it.
[03:48:55] I'm 100% one of those people who had no idea what was going on in the Middle East before
[03:48:58] October 7th.
[03:48:59] It was only when I started listening to you that I finally started to understand, yes.
[03:49:02] That's why, that's why you got all, you know, you got to remember that and you have to be
[03:49:07] gracious with people who are going through their own journey obviously you
[03:49:10] don't want to get duped by fucking bad actors um but
[03:49:23] anyway here's a w for Troiota and another w for Troiota
[03:49:31] New York Times Trojax and Will's Sports Schumer from Leader Trojax says he
[03:49:34] won't sport Chuck Schumer as leader and also said he was not sure he wanted to
[03:49:37] is poor Senator Schumer in the general election. Okay. And by the way, the rat fuck is still
[03:49:46] happening. They're trying to bring back the water bottle incident from like what a decade
[03:49:51] ago almost as soon as it was established that Troy Jackson is the candidate and that he
[03:49:59] He is also Israel critical immediately, immediately, they brought up articles, okay?
[03:50:09] Here it is.
[03:50:10] Here it is.
[03:50:11] Here it is.
[03:50:12] Main Senate, several of Troy Jackson's ex-colleagues tell CNN he has been aggressive towards them
[03:50:17] and has shown to have anger issues.
[03:50:19] Jackson did address the water bottle incident and apologized, though it was not enough for
[03:50:22] some of the female lawmakers' allies, according to the two people in the room, yeah.
[03:50:29] the detail he threw the water bottle because his colleague refused to fight
[03:50:31] against the Supreme Court to lower prescription drug prices because the
[03:50:34] Supreme Court would rule it as unconstitutional. I said, Lemao, yeah, I
[03:50:40] don't care. He's a lion. We need passionate legislators who will fight
[03:50:44] like hell to lower prescription pharmaceutical prices, which is what the
[03:50:47] incident was about. The legislators made up afterwards anyway, which they did.
[03:50:53] Yeah, throw another one Troy throw another dart Troy
[03:51:07] Throw it for me Troy Omar Bartop is back on the New York Times again talking about a scholar a genocide
[03:51:14] We're entering a new terrifying era
[03:51:16] It's kind of funny. One of these days, Omar, I like Omar Bartov. I think he occupies a
[03:51:27] very important but very different lane from where I'm at, obviously. Just give him like
[03:51:34] two more years, okay? He's going to be like, yeah, okay, Zionism was always bad. He has
[03:51:39] missed their Zionism evolved into this genocidal fascist ideology. It wasn't supposed to be
[03:51:43] this way, eventually, give him like two more years, he's going to be fucking singing Elon
[03:51:48] Pope style praises. He is going to be, he is eventually going to arrive at the conclusion,
[03:51:56] perhaps as Zionism always was this, and it didn't just evolve into this, certainly it evolved,
[03:52:02] but it was destined to turn into what we all can now see it is. Because Omar Bartov was,
[03:52:10] Omar Bartow is a very important Holocaust scholar, okay? Israeli, Jewish, very important Holocaust scholar, right?
[03:52:18] So it was somewhat controversial among Zionists when he actually came out
[03:52:23] and and said Dr. Bartow was a professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Brown University when he came out and said Israel's doing a genocide
[03:52:31] Okay
[03:52:34] It was pretty impactful. It was very controversial for the Zionists. They were like Omar Bartow
[03:52:38] How could you do this to us, right? Obviously, people on our side would say,
[03:52:43] come on, Omar, too little, too late, right? It's fine. It's not for us.
[03:52:51] It's for other people, okay? Everyone plays a different role in this. But what's actually
[03:52:57] more interesting to me is the book that he wrote. Omar Bartoff came out, said, Israel's
[03:53:03] committing a genocide. And it was, I think it was like 2025, if I recall correctly. I don't
[03:53:12] know the exact timeline. So don't call me out. I apologize. But he basically came out. And because
[03:53:20] of the position of prominence he has and the position of influence he has, a lot of people
[03:53:27] actually, a lot of people actually were like, okay, this is, you know, things are changing.
[03:53:33] Omar also wrote a book. Yeah, I think it was 2025. Yeah, because I remember covering it. I'm a
[03:53:41] Genocide scholar. I know it when I see it July 15, 2025, so a year ago, right? I remember covering
[03:53:48] it at the time. You could probably find my commentary on this, right? And I probably said the
[03:53:52] the same things I'm about to say now for Omar's new evolution of his ideology. So,
[03:54:00] so he came out and said, as a, as a genocide, I'm a Holocaust scholar. This is, you know,
[03:54:04] I know it when I see it. Then Omar went to writing a book. Okay, he went,
[03:54:11] And he went into writing a book on Zionism. Okay. This is very important. The book just,
[03:54:25] the book came out recently, I believe. It came out in April this year. A genocide scholar asks,
[03:54:32] what went wrong in Israel? So why is this important? So there's obviously different schools of thought
[03:54:39] on Zionism. I am an anti-Zionist, I am an anti-fascist, and therefore, of course, I
[03:54:46] believe that Zionism from planned deletion and onward has always been an
[03:54:52] exterminationist ideology. Okay? That's my belief, that's my assessment, and that's
[03:54:58] the assessment of many anti-Zionists, if not all anti-Zionists. That Zionism was
[03:55:02] always a relatively new ideology that was ethno-supremacist, that was
[03:55:08] exterminationist. Omar's book argues, it's still very important though, because again,
[03:55:14] he's Israeli professor of Holocaust and genocide, very famous professor. Okay. Omar's book argues
[03:55:22] that Zionism evolved into becoming this genocidal ideology. Okay. So we still have some friction,
[03:55:30] we still have some disagreements there. My assessment personally is he's working through the steps
[03:55:37] of coming to the conclusion that Zionism always was this ideology, but it's taken, you know,
[03:55:46] it's taken a toll on him and probably a little difficult for him to come to conclusion, come
[03:55:50] to that conclusion. Okay, but ultimately it's fine. This is, this is good. Okay. This is really,
[03:55:58] really impactful and it's good. And the reason why I say that is because you're not the target
[03:56:03] audience for this. Omer Bartov is never going to convince you that Zionism
[03:56:09] actually had redeemable qualities at its inception. Okay, but those who did
[03:56:15] believe that will listen to his words and come to the recognition that it has
[03:56:20] become a fascist and genocidal ideology and many of them will then move beyond
[03:56:25] it and explore beyond it and learn about Prandalli, learn about the ethnic
[03:56:29] cleansing of Palestinians, learn about the Nakba, and will recognize that it was always
[03:56:35] this exterminationist, ethno-religious supremacist ideology.
[03:56:42] You understand?
[03:56:47] doesn't Jabotinsky just outright state that like how hard was it it doesn't matter it
[03:57:02] doesn't matter okay for a lot of these guys there is a there is an unbelievable amount
[03:57:10] of social conditioning and I'm not saying this as a value judgment I'm not saying this
[03:57:15] This is a defense, okay?
[03:57:17] I'm not saying this as a defense.
[03:57:21] Please make no mistake.
[03:57:23] I'm a pragmatic guy, okay?
[03:57:26] I care about solutions more than anything else.
[03:57:29] I don't have ideological commitments.
[03:57:32] I don't believe in dogmatic ways of thinking.
[03:57:35] I just have a very pragmatic approach and not only that, but I also have moral conviction,
[03:57:41] okay?
[03:57:42] So, I don't shy away from telling you what my opinion is, but I will also always offer
[03:57:47] you analysis, and if it comes down to changing people's minds, I do think it's good to have
[03:57:52] a multifaceted approach.
[03:57:56] In his new writing, he says that Zionism is doomed from the start because of the actions
[03:57:58] of the Spurred.
[03:58:00] Omar Bartop is an Israeli professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Brown University.
[03:58:05] He grew up in a Zionist home and served as an officer in the Israel Defense Forces, but
[03:58:08] he has long been concerned about Israel's use of military power.
[03:58:11] in a new book called Israel, What Went Wrong, Barthov argues that Zionism is morphed into
[03:58:15] an ideology of extremism that led to genocide in Gaza following the Hamas attacks of October
[03:58:26] 7.
[03:58:27] There's growing criticism of America's support for these kinds of Israeli policies both on
[03:58:29] the American left and on the American right.
[03:58:32] Barthov tells David Remnick.
[03:58:33] Bartow believes that Israel requires shock therapy, because it has still not come to identify
[03:58:46] the limits of its own power, because those limits are in Washington, D.C. And it's there
[03:58:50] that those limits have to be set. For Israel, that would be good, because I think Israel
[03:58:54] needs to be liberated from that kind of dependence on American power, I think. For American society,
[03:58:58] and for American Jewry, that's a very bad thing, because there's a rise of anti-Semites
[03:59:01] with the Tucker Carlson's of the world, who are a rising force right now. So it still goes back to,
[03:59:08] uh, it still, you know, goes back to a certain degree to like, uh, the, the feelings of, of, uh,
[03:59:15] Jewish people in America, the fears that they have and things of that nature. Obviously, uh, the,
[03:59:20] the primary focus is, is about, thank you. The primary focus here is about, uh, limiting the
[03:59:27] impact or or delivering accountability for the the metric ton of crimes that
[03:59:32] Israel is committed. But again,
[03:59:40] different strokes for different folks. You understand me?
[03:59:47] Different strokes for different folks.
[04:00:17] What do you mean you don't have an ideology? I mean I don't practice a dogmatic approach.
[04:00:26] That's why I shy away from expressing a commitment to a specific ideological tendency even amongst
[04:00:33] the socialists left.
[04:00:47] In some ways, it unironically is very dingus.
[04:01:02] Black cat, white cat.
[04:01:05] It doesn't matter as long as it catches the rat.
[04:01:22] The suits say otherwise, Dung Shopping also wore those suits, so the suits say yes.
[04:01:26] First.
[04:01:27] Anyway, let's get back to the situation monitoring.
[04:01:30] What's the million dollar question?
[04:01:31] The problem is that both sides right now appear to be locked in an escalatory spiral.
[04:01:36] The Iranians want to make sure that their red lines are clear and the main red line
[04:01:41] really is their control over the straits of Hormuz.
[04:01:44] The U.S. in turn also wants to be sure that its red line is clear and that red line is
[04:01:50] that Iran can't control the straits of Hormuz.
[04:01:53] So the two are basically locked in this exchange.
[04:01:57] It's an incremental, incrementally increasing exchange in the sense that now it's targeting
[04:02:05] more infrastructure, both in Iran and in the rest of the region, that's likely to increase
[04:02:10] over the course of the next few days.
[04:02:12] Every time it gets worse, it becomes harder to find an off-run for both sides, and that's
[04:02:17] the critical issue.
[04:02:18] So, look, the United States has reiterated for many months now, frankly, that they have
[04:02:24] been able to degrade a significant number of Iran's military capabilities as well as
[04:02:30] missile launchers.
[04:02:31] Iran, in the meantime, targets in Gulf states, specifically over the past 10 days, and also
[04:02:36] releasing footage of their missile launchers and drone launch sites.
[04:02:41] What capabilities do we know Iran still has at this point?
[04:02:46] Well, it's really hard to say exactly, but what is sure is that, yes, the U.S. has degraded
[04:02:53] some of Iran's capabilities, but no, that hasn't been enough to prevent Iran from continuing
[04:02:58] its attacks. And not only has Iran been able to continue its attacks in the strait largely
[04:03:03] because that doesn't require much.
[04:03:08] Assign Houthis, build their own missiles and drones domestically. They don't need Iranian
[04:03:17] businesses? Yeah, but they need components.
[04:03:21] Much frankly, it requires some drones. It requires some rubber boats with guns or explosive devices. So controlling the straight from Tehran's perspective is really easy. The thing that's been more interesting to watch is Iran's ability to target US bases and US personnel in the wider
[04:03:38] region, including in Jordan, the US had moved some of its troops into Jordan away from the
[04:03:45] Gulf Arab states in order to move them away from Iran.
[04:03:48] And Iran has still been able to target them.
[04:03:50] That is something that's really quite worrying.
[04:03:52] Thank you very much.
[04:03:54] It's great.
[04:03:55] I'm skipping as I don't care about this.
[04:04:01] All right, guys.
[04:04:03] still cooked. Adam Smith on the DSA debate as we are now joined in studio by a representative
[04:04:11] Adam Smith. He is a Democrat. He is from Washington. He is the top Democrat, in fact, on the House
[04:04:16] Armed Services Committee. And your team actually reached out saying you wanted to have a conversation
[04:04:20] about the future of the Democratic Party and your ideas therein. So very excited to have
[04:04:24] that combo. Welcome.
[04:04:25] Yeah. Good to be on. Thank you, Chance.
[04:04:27] Of course. So before we get into all of that, you are at the center of a bunch of very impactful
[04:04:32] votes as the ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee.
[04:04:36] So if you don't mind, I wanted to start by talking to you a little bit about the NDAA,
[04:04:39] that's National Offense Authorization Act.
[04:04:42] Section 224 has been of a lot of interest to our audience.
[04:04:45] This is what would effectively partially merge the U.S. military with the Israeli military.
[04:04:51] You were originally in support of it.
[04:04:52] You changed your position on it.
[04:04:54] I just wanted to know about your thought process here.
[04:04:56] It wouldn't merge the U.S. military with the Israeli military.
[04:05:00] What it does is it talks about co-development programs.
[04:05:02] We can actually put element one up on the screen while it's discussing, because it has
[04:05:06] some of this.
[04:05:07] I mean, the Pentagon has a thousand different development programs that, you know, they
[04:05:13] put together for procurement of, I don't know, everything from the F-35 to a radio.
[04:05:20] And when you do that, you develop a program of record and the Pentagon works on it.
[04:05:24] We have, of course, in the last decade, had three programs that we co-developed with the
[04:05:29] Israeli military, around drones, sorry, not around drones, around missile defense, well,
[04:05:37] yeah, counter drones.
[04:05:39] And so the point of those programs was for the two militaries to work together to develop
[04:05:44] them.
[04:05:45] Okay.
[04:05:46] Now neither controls the other in terms of how they use them.
[04:05:50] So those were just co-development programs.
[04:05:52] And in section 224, when it came up to the committee, said, let's have one person overlook
[04:05:57] all three of those programs, and let's explore the possibility of more co-development programs.
[04:06:03] Right. So it has to expand and accelerate bilateral defense technology, research development,
[04:06:08] testing, evaluation, integration, and industrial cooperation that goes on to spell out what
[04:06:12] all that means. Right. And it didn't create any new program. And by the way, missile defense
[04:06:17] was the big thing that we had there. And it just, so that was the point of it. And mostly,
[04:06:25] I see this as a benefit to the U.S. military, particularly when you're talking about missile
[04:06:31] defense.
[04:06:32] The Israeli military is really good at it.
[04:06:34] They can help us develop those systems so that we have a better system.
[04:06:37] I think it's an incredible exaggeration to say that this would merge the U.S. military
[04:06:42] because out of thousands, literally thousands of programs, we would have three, four, maybe
[04:06:48] five or six that we were co-developing with the IDF.
[04:06:53] But you've changed your position now, correct?
[04:06:56] You've opposed it.
[04:06:57] So what are your concerns?
[04:06:58] Because I'll tell you the concerns, you know,
[04:07:00] for me personally, I think shared a lot by our audience
[04:07:02] is you are well aware there is a reckoning happening
[04:07:05] with regard to the U.S. relationship with Israel,
[04:07:07] especially in the Democratic Party.
[04:07:09] And so what appears from the outside is that,
[04:07:11] while votes are increasingly becoming difficult for Israel
[04:07:14] to win in terms of overt aid being granted,
[04:07:18] this would be a way to secure the Israel-U.S. relationship
[04:07:22] without having that transparency and that democratic accountability
[04:07:25] that would come from a vote.
[04:07:27] So that's the concern is that it would make the
[04:07:29] Israeli-U.S. military relationship more entrenched
[04:07:33] in a way that lacks any sort of democratic accountability.
[04:07:36] Yeah, no, I don't agree with that at all. I mean, we're talking about...
[04:07:39] What are your concerns?
[04:07:41] So, two different questions here. My concern is I don't support the Netanyahu
[04:07:45] government.
[04:07:45] And I certainly don't support the government.
[04:07:48] And that's been, I think, the real challenge for me.
[04:07:52] Israel has a right to exist. Israel is threatened
[04:07:55] um... profoundly. Bahamas, Hezbollah, Iran.
[04:07:58] So how do we help them defend themselves? Well at the same time
[04:08:02] they've got a government that's frankly out of control, particularly in the
[04:08:05] West Bank.
[04:08:06] You know, I associate myself with Iran's Emmanuel speech in Tel Aviv last week
[04:08:11] where he said Netanyahu has decided that he is going to be able to defeat
[04:08:15] all of his adversaries.
[04:08:17] uh... so whether you're talking lebanon gaza west bank ron is perpetual war
[04:08:22] all the time
[04:08:24] and then with smoke richard in kivir you've got people who really do you want
[04:08:28] to drive all of the palestinians out of cause in the west bank and they're in
[04:08:32] the government
[04:08:33] okay
[04:08:34] so the basic idea of the program was first presented to me like i said
[04:08:38] it's co-development programs and i have missile defense something we could
[04:08:42] definitely learn from
[04:08:43] uh... israel on
[04:08:45] uh... and it
[04:08:46] it's a program you decide whether or not you could open programs about the way
[04:08:49] that we decide in congress that we don't like that program we can vote it down
[04:08:52] to some outside of the democratic process
[04:08:55] we don't have to vote in a prove every single program of record
[04:09:00] that the dependent on the valves so i don't have an aspect of it but a couple
[04:09:04] constituents in particular reached out to be in
[04:09:06] explained that look at this point
[04:09:09] voting for anything that integrates the u.s. the israeli government further
[04:09:13] given where the Netanyahu government is at, is just a statement we don't want to make
[04:09:17] right now, and I agreed with that, and that's what caused me to change my mind on that
[04:09:22] particular issue.
[04:09:23] So you've said you would vote against that on the House floor.
[04:09:26] I would vote to remove it from the bill, yes.
[04:09:28] So you are a ranking member, House Armed Services, that makes you one of the four most
[04:09:33] important people in DC in terms of what ends up in the NTAA and for all of you to go ahead.
[04:09:39] Except the fact that I'm in the minority.
[04:09:40] You're in the minority, of course.
[04:09:41] I don't control. Sure. Yes. What the majority tells me is stretching the imagination. What
[04:09:47] I wanted to know is if you would use that position when it comes to conference, which
[04:09:51] is when the, this is for our audience, I know obviously you know this, when the Senate version
[04:09:55] is merged with the House version and any difference or reconcile. Yes. I will advocate for the
[04:09:58] removal of that provision. And if it's not removed, will you refuse to sign off on the
[04:10:03] conference report? I don't know that I will go that far. It depends on what else is in
[04:10:07] the bill. I mean, look, the bill itself has the massive problem that it's continuing to
[04:10:12] fund the war in Iran, which is another disaster. So I am probably not going to vote, well,
[04:10:17] almost certainly not going to vote for the bill, as it comes off the House floor now,
[04:10:20] just in and of itself, regardless of that particular section. Just because of that one
[04:10:24] section, I don't know that I would vote against the entire bill.
[04:10:28] Well, now it's actually the other thing I wanted to ask you about is, why are Democrats
[04:10:33] considering supporting an NDA at all while Trump is prosecuting a disastrous illegal
[04:10:39] unconstitutional war, which to your credit, you've been very vocally spoken against.
[04:10:43] Yeah. Well, there's a couple of layers to that. First of all, and this is where we get into some
[04:10:48] of those divisions within the Democratic Party, I believe that we do need to have a Department of
[04:10:53] Defense. We need to support our troops. We have national security threats that we have to be prepared
[04:10:59] to deal with. All right, so.
[04:11:01] Do people disagree with that?
[04:11:02] Well, there are some, look, the Democratic Socialists of America in their platform is
[04:11:08] defund the Department of Defense. It's in their platform.
[04:11:12] Have any of the candidates that you're aware of held that position or advocated that position?
[04:11:17] I don't know.
[04:11:18] I see lots of people advocate for cutting the Pentagon, which I would agree with that,
[04:11:21] you may agree with this. Well, I don't know. I haven't heard anyone advocating for getting
[04:11:26] rid of it, at least nobody who's elected to office.
[04:11:29] Yeah, but it's part of the DSA platform, okay?
[04:11:34] And also a broader part of-
[04:11:35] Do you agree with everything, single word of the Democratic Party platform?
[04:11:39] I do not.
[04:11:40] Okay.
[04:11:41] Okay.
[04:11:42] So, yes.
[04:11:43] Huh.
[04:11:44] Huh.
[04:11:45] This is where, I think this is where he's got to start realizing he might have fucked
[04:11:54] up on this.
[04:11:58] Is this where it falls off the rails?
[04:12:05] So should you be held to whatever views are theoretically in some policy position paper
[04:12:16] or should we deal with the reality of what your positions are?
[04:12:19] Why would they put it in there in the first place?
[04:12:21] But aside from that particular point, there's the larger question of the role the US plays
[04:12:26] in the world.
[04:12:27] where I do disagree with the DSA.
[04:12:30] I mean, their general position is that the US
[04:12:34] is responsible for most of the conflict in the world.
[04:12:37] And I've heard these arguments about-
[04:12:39] Wait, is it not?
[04:12:40] You're talking about Iran, North Korea, Russia, China,
[04:12:42] that everything they're doing is merely in reaction time.
[04:12:45] Is it not?
[04:12:48] I mean, is that, that's just the objectively correct position.
[04:12:51] We're the world police, of course.
[04:12:53] Yeah, no, I was thinking, I was thinking of Estonia's lion's share of responsibility
[04:13:04] for our starvation policies in Cuba.
[04:13:06] I was thinking, I was thinking about what Zimbabwe must address for the war against
[04:13:14] Iran.
[04:13:15] Mongolia, you will pay for your crimes, allowing Israel to commit genocide against the Palestinians.
[04:13:31] It's time.
[04:13:32] Peru.
[04:13:33] Oh, you thought you could get away with it.
[04:13:39] Peru.
[04:13:41] How dare you, Peru?
[04:13:44] Why would you invade Afghanistan?
[04:13:47] Why would you invade Iraq?
[04:13:52] Who could forget?
[04:13:54] Who could forget Malaysia?
[04:14:03] Who could forget Malaysia's military action against Libya?
[04:14:13] Burkina Faso. Burkina Faso is now led by a man, Ibrahim Torore, okay? And Torore does
[04:14:28] not do things halfway. And he certainly wasn't doing it halfway when Burkina Faso invaded
[04:14:37] Vietnam. He was doing it full way. Poland. Oh, don't get me started on Poland. Poland
[04:15:02] leading the coalition of the willing in the Korean war that could amount to a genocide.
[04:15:07] could forget. And the Philippines, Philippines will pay for its crimes against Nicholas Maduro.
[04:15:24] That's right. It was the Philippines that did the special military operation.
[04:15:31] Do you see how stupid it sounds?
[04:15:34] The reason why I'm doing this is because I need people to understand how stupid of a
[04:15:38] statement this is.
[04:15:39] Oh, all these other countries around the world engage in actions and they claim they're
[04:15:44] doing it because of us.
[04:15:46] Yes, yes, we are the hegemonic superpower.
[04:15:52] It is our fault and our responsibility.
[04:15:58] And I don't agree with that.
[04:16:00] I think we've done some bad things without any question, but I do think we face threats
[04:16:05] that we need to be in a position to deter.
[04:16:08] So I'm not, you know, going to say that we shouldn't ever have a National Defense Authorizing
[04:16:13] Act.
[04:16:14] The second piece of this that I, and I'm curious, I'm curious what people think about this is
[04:16:18] sure.
[04:16:19] Just a pause on that point for one second.
[04:16:21] The argument I'm making, and I think other people, is not that we should never have a
[04:16:25] National Defense Authorization Act, it's that in this moment, Democrats, as you know, have
[04:16:30] precious little leverage that they can use as Republicans control the House, the Senate,
[04:16:34] and the White House. Trump is prosecuting what is in a legal war. There was a war powers resolution
[04:16:41] that was passed through the House in the Senate that he is in violation of.
[04:16:43] just to be clear. Such a good, such a good line of questioning. Truly the goat at this.
[04:16:58] Like, she's working through the steps by being like, listen, no one is saying abolish the American
[04:17:07] military, but don't you feel like you should play politics right now? This is a profound point of
[04:17:13] leverage where you can address and maybe even force Trump to do things that might be to the
[04:17:22] benefit of the American public. By withholding your vote on the NDA, you could cause Donald Trump
[04:17:33] to potentially go back to the ceasefire negotiation with Iran.
[04:17:38] Now, of course, guys like Adam Smith don't want that. They're just trying to find the
[04:17:48] most appropriate position they can arrive at. Okay, Wesley Bell might be cooked. Nancy
[04:17:56] Pelosi is heading for a campaign rally on healthcare for Representative Wesley Bell. Oh
[04:18:01] Oh my god, he must be cooked as fuck if you got Nancy Pelosi the big boss boss dog coming in hot
[04:18:10] Holy fuck they must have had horrible internals, dude. Are you kidding me also Nancy Pelosi? Oh
[04:18:22] Dude this actually gives me hella confidence
[04:18:25] There's a bigger part of the problem.
[04:18:27] Even if this war was legal, it would still be a disastrous, stupid, terrible, horrible
[04:18:32] idea.
[04:18:33] We would 100% agree on that.
[04:18:35] But it is also illegal.
[04:18:36] So why not use this moment when they would dearly like democratic votes to suppress them?
[04:18:44] So you think that, so you won't support an NDA and you don't think the rest of the democratic
[04:18:47] party?
[04:18:48] So there will probably be some who will and some who won't.
[04:18:50] And again, how do we use that leverage in an effective way?
[04:18:55] And keep in mind, also, the National Defense Authorizing Act
[04:18:58] doesn't actually fund anything.
[04:18:59] It's not the appropriations bill.
[04:19:01] It's authorizing, which is the other point I've been trying to get to.
[04:19:04] Congress needs to exercise oversight of the Department of Defense.
[04:19:07] We've got a provision in the bill that would bring back
[04:19:10] collective bargaining for all DOD employees, which we got put into the bill.
[04:19:14] We've got a variety.
[04:19:15] Bro said labor unions, bro said, I'm, listen, I'm doing this for the labor unions. Okay. I'm doing this for, for the union unionized defense contract shops.
[04:19:30] Sick, man. Thank you.
[04:19:34] What, you don't want your war criminals to unionize? Wow, son.
[04:19:39] I guess your real piece of shit for that one.
[04:19:41] That's such a funny way to sell this.
[04:19:50] Different things that fence Secretary Hegs says budgets, if he doesn't, you know, begin
[04:19:54] to turn over more information, it's us exercising our oversight.
[04:19:58] If we pull back from that and don't do anything, that winds up with the executive branch having
[04:20:02] all the control of all the authority if we just don't pass anything.
[04:20:06] So there are some things in this bill that exercise oversight of the Pentagon.
[04:20:10] We step back from that, Trump just goes and does what he wants to do without any congressional
[04:20:15] oversight.
[04:20:16] So that's the balance.
[04:20:17] Because I think the mistake when you say leverage, the notion is, if we say we won't
[04:20:21] vote for it, the Republicans will therefore give us this, this, this, and this.
[04:20:25] Well, it'll put some pressure on them.
[04:20:27] I mean, a lot of this, they're around the world.
[04:20:29] Sure, it will, but they may not.
[04:20:30] But it may not result in that.
[04:20:31] So, yes.
[04:20:32] But it may be worth a try.
[04:20:33] They're around where they're already very uncaught there and, yeah.
[04:20:35] 100%.
[04:20:36] Let me ask you about your vote for the Thomas Massey amendment, which would block aid to
[04:20:41] Israel.
[04:20:42] And this is another one where you had told one outlet that you were planning to vote
[04:20:45] against it, and then you changed your mind and decided to vote for it.
[04:20:48] You put on a statement saying that you wanted to send a message to Benjamin Netanyahu.
[04:20:52] I just, I'd love for you, there's actually been a lot of pro-Israel folks who've been
[04:20:55] attacking you, saying you gave in to pressure tactics, et cetera.
[04:20:59] I'd love for you to explain your own words, how you came to this place, because I do think
[04:21:03] your vote and others are quite extraordinary given where consensus within washington has been
[04:21:09] on the you know relationship with israel you had even Nancy Pelosi voting for this amendment yourself
[04:21:15] given your position and your track record you're someone who's been supported by apac just take
[04:21:19] us to your this is going to take a minute this is going to take that's fine take your time okay
[04:21:22] because the real challenge here is what israel has historically been okay israel was historically a
[04:21:33] democratic state in the middle of no democratic states they were a very strong ally of the
[04:21:39] u.s. we partnered with them on a variety of things counterterrorism being the biggest thing
[04:21:43] during the isis fight and elsewhere so you've got that historical okay there is one state
[04:21:49] that the united states of america has more reliably and consistently leaned into in order
[04:21:54] to fight against isis and i'm sorry it's not israel it's actually iran and i know for a fact
[04:22:01] that Adam Smith knows that, okay? It's a wrong. Also, we're burning the candle on both ends,
[04:22:14] because our other partner, NATO partner, Turkey, is literally fucking propping up ISIS at Arba
[04:22:21] behest, so none of it matters.
[04:22:30] We create the problem, we create the conditions for the problem to
[04:22:33] expand rapidly. Then we actually lean into the problem, we make
[04:22:37] more of the same fucking problem. Only to then turn around and
[04:22:42] then work with the guys who are fighting the problem. And then
[04:22:45] we make those guys the number one enemy.
[04:22:51] Adam Smith of wealth wealth of nations fame he fell off. Yeah, he did. This guy wrote the book
[04:23:05] This guy wrote the book on capitalism
[04:23:12] And all of its, uh, you know major critiques
[04:23:16] And here he is
[04:23:18] failing to fucking address a certain single damn point
[04:23:22] on breaking points relationship and then you've got the reality of what israel
[04:23:27] is living in um and that is that they are the
[04:23:31] old well except for ukraine that the only country in the world well
[04:23:34] they're the only country in the world that from the day they were founded
[04:23:37] people have been trying to eliminate them there's no other country in the
[04:23:41] world that then you know yemen and saudi arabia fought
[04:23:45] uh... but the hooties never said the side iraqia didn't have a right to
[04:23:47] exist
[04:23:48] okay very existence was on the line
[04:23:51] you know when israel came into being from that very moment they have been
[04:23:54] attacked constantly
[04:23:56] uh... and it comes down to a fundamental question does this will have a right
[04:23:59] to exist
[04:24:00] now i'll tell you in this is absolutely with the dsa position is that they
[04:24:04] don't
[04:24:05] okay is that let's pause on the other i want to get to the day i want to fight
[04:24:09] you on all of this i want you to get i gotta get this yeah i gotta get to the
[04:24:12] Okay, so so, you know if you have a situation with
[04:24:20] I love hearing about what the dsa believes and what it doesn't believe from a guy
[04:24:27] Who thinks it's it's just everything is communism
[04:24:36] Like what the fuck does this guy know about the democratic socialist of america get the hell out of here
[04:24:40] Here Israel is threatened on all sides, and I know it's like well no what's that not saying they don't have a right to exist
[04:24:46] Just they have to let all the Palestinians back in and then effectively the Jews no longer control Israel
[04:24:51] Okay, well don't I'm sorry, but don't you sub like as an idea of equal rights for all ethnicities something that you in
[04:24:59] Yeah, dude, never. Oh, no, don't
[04:25:02] Don't ask a Zionist about equal rights and equal representation. Oh, no big mistake worst mistake of my life
[04:25:10] And yes, this is the moment of cognitive dissonance for liberal Zionists as well.
[04:25:19] The moment that you say, okay, right to return, equal rights and equal representation, if
[04:25:24] you ask as Zionists about this, even if they are liberal Zionists, with the only exception
[04:25:30] being Brad Lander, he is the only person who I've ever heard say that they are liberal
[04:25:36] Zionists and then not bring up the demographic concerns of having a Jewish ethnos day.
[04:25:44] Only guy outside of Brad Lander, every liberal Zionist will say we have demographic concerns.
[04:25:54] Why can't we have a state?
[04:25:57] Why can't we have a state?
[04:25:58] We have demographic concerns, which means we can't allow the Arabs, the non-Jews, the
[04:26:06] to become a majority, because if they become a majority, then they will vote to, you know,
[04:26:15] destroy us.
[04:26:19] Very support as a Democrat.
[04:26:23] Well, yeah, Brad has some crazy takes as well. Make no mistake. He says, Brad says,
[04:26:28] settlers would stay in Palestinian territory and be minorities in a Palestinian majority
[04:26:34] I personally think that's a wild take
[04:26:37] Okay, that's why I'm a one-stater because I don't think the settlers would do that
[04:26:43] But I think he's banking on that too. I think his
[04:26:46] His assessment is that you know most of those settlers would fucking leave instantly
[04:26:55] Regarding your who the capabilities assessment a couple hours ago
[04:26:57] The idea is identify significant processing the progress in the capabilities of the who these including in the development of factories underground in remote areas
[04:27:04] and as secret projects for the benefit of self-production of missiles and drones in Yemen using Iranian knowledge, why net says
[04:27:11] Regarding airstrikes on Yemen the goal is far from being achieved as the air force increases from 2025
[04:27:23] Regarding airstrikes on Yemen the goal is far from being cheated as the air force increases attacks on who the air seaports and
[04:27:29] Thus towards arms shipments were air on the model of local production makes the strikes less effective
[04:27:34] Like the Hezbollah missile factories in Masyaf, Syria, which Israel destroyed in a special
[04:27:38] operation about a year ago, the model in Yemen is similar, using mountains and deserts to
[04:27:42] carve into rock or dig into the ground to create production lines for weapons.
[04:27:46] The current recommendation of the Intelligence Directorate, certainly after October 7, is
[04:27:50] that even during the Houthi ceasefire, if it comes due to the cessation of the fighting
[04:27:54] in Gaza, it should not stop the attack on the regime.
[04:28:03] we're cooking on that video go back I know I'm gonna I'm gonna go back well
[04:28:07] well sure but the practical result of this is if you say there should be
[04:28:13] equal right rights within Israel but it's real a lot of them they cease to
[04:28:17] exist as a country no they cease to exist as a Jewish ethno state that's very
[04:28:22] different from ceasing to exist as a country come on hold on hold on hold on
[04:28:26] stop stop stop stop why is why is no no no we got a drill issue for us taxpayers
[04:28:31] We got it. We got
[04:28:36] Dude what like I do people not realize that when they come across like this it just literally feeds into the conspiracy
[04:28:48] Brother get a politician on the record to talk about Israel and and say something like yeah
[04:28:55] I personally don't you know
[04:28:56] I personally don't believe a country is is allowed to exist if it maintains an a apartheid, right?
[04:29:03] If it maintains an occupation, don't you agree? What about your liberal values?
[04:29:07] And he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on now. I am not on board with that.
[04:29:19] They get so crazy about Israel, bro. They get so fucking crazy about Israel. It's crazy. It blows
[04:29:25] was my mind. You are from Washington State. You've been in office since like 1994. What
[04:29:38] gives? Israel comes to me in my dreams. What gives? Seriously, seriously, what is happening?
[04:29:55] It's just so funny that they just like, when Israel comes up, they're like,
[04:29:58] Whoa, I have to defend it as vociferously as I possibly can.
[04:30:03] And it's so stupid.
[04:30:04] Just be normal, dude.
[04:30:05] Can you not be a normal human being?
[04:30:07] Can you not be like, can you not try to find the most, most like mathematically
[04:30:14] silly equation here where on the one hand you're like, yeah, Israel's done a genocide.
[04:30:20] Or he probably doesn't recognize that, but he's like, ah, they're doing war crimes.
[04:30:23] I hate the Netanyahu government, but also at the same time,
[04:30:31] at the same time, like, uh, you know, we still got to give them money.
[04:30:34] We still got to give them weapons. Like it just doesn't make sense.
[04:30:37] It's not common sense at all. It doesn't, to the average person,
[04:30:40] when they hear that, they go, this is dumb. You're, you sound stupid.
[04:30:48] The drill down on that. Okay. Okay. All right.
[04:30:50] they cease to exist as an ethnic state. So basically, Jews would live in Palestine and be governed
[04:30:57] by the Palestinians, by the Arabs. Okay? And maybe that's just what has to happen in the minds of
[04:31:02] some people, but understand the consequences of it. Understand the consequences of it,
[04:31:07] Crystal. Those fucking filthy Arabs, they would kill all the Jews. They are barbarians. They're
[04:31:13] rapists. They're monsters. What don't you get? And then Crystal can turn around and be like,
[04:31:17] Hey, I don't know if you know this, but there's a little place called Dearborn, where Muslims
[04:31:22] already live in a totally diverse democratic process. So the idea that you think Muslims
[04:31:31] are incapable of living in this democratic structure where they have equal say and equal
[04:31:35] rights is unbelievably racist. Do you not think of you're a Muslim constituent when you say this?
[04:31:45] It's insane. It's racist towards the Jews too, ironically enough. Like, oh, Jews, they're just,
[04:31:52] they're just violent. No matter what, they just, they will have to kill the Muslims. And then
[04:31:57] also on the other hand, you're like, well, the Muslims are violent and no matter what,
[04:31:59] they have to kill the Jews. No, man, that's not how this works. There's never been a moment in
[04:32:04] history where that's how it has worked, okay? It's just insane. It's this totally distorted
[04:32:13] attitude where you're like, well, Jews have a special gene where they have to oppress the non-Jews,
[04:32:18] and then also Arabs have a special gene where they have to rape and kill every Jewish person.
[04:32:23] That's why they can't have a fucking equal state.
[04:32:29] It's ridiculous.
[04:32:32] Of course, it's also commonplace, as I have explained over and over again. This was a
[04:32:37] commonplace attitude. We cannot free the slaves. They will do to us what we've done to them. We
[04:32:43] cannot abolish the apartheid. The black people, if they get political power to
[04:32:49] equal representation, they'll do to us what we've done to them during the apartheid.
[04:32:54] This is how it always goes. This is what people say all the time. And history has proven that
[04:33:02] wrong every single time. Yes, liberal Zionism insinuates that only Jews can govern themselves.
[04:33:13] It's such a neurotic approach to other than how racist it is. It is also built around this neuroses that like if Jews don't govern themselves, the Holocaust is going to happen.
[04:33:25] But the Jews have been living in the United States of America with varying degrees of systemic discrimination early on and none whatsoever now for quite a while.
[04:33:42] The notion that Israel has to exist for that to take place is offensive to me as a goddamn American. Okay, I
[04:33:50] Hated it when Joe Biden said that Joe Biden was like if Israel doesn't exist no Jews ever safe
[04:33:56] It's like that sounds like a threat. You're the American president. What do you mean?
[04:33:59] There's like seven million Jews here. What the fuck are you talking about?
[04:34:02] This is the most Jewish country on the planet other than fucking Israel
[04:34:07] What are you saying right now?
[04:34:09] Well, New York is the most Jewish city in the world, understand why Israel was created
[04:34:21] in the first place so that the Jews would have some place to go, okay?
[04:34:25] And to just, and to just blithely say, well, yeah, it'll go away and it'll be fine.
[04:34:31] So that's point one.
[04:34:32] Well, first of all, you're mischaracterizing my position, but second of all, I think second
[04:34:38] of all, you're ignoring that Israel was not created and a land with no people land.
[04:34:43] No, no, no, no. I know it wasn't. I know it wasn't.
[04:34:45] There were people there that were just placed.
[04:34:47] There were very few countries ever worked.
[04:34:49] There was a dispute over land.
[04:34:51] Yes.
[04:34:52] And Israel today, which I think is what you were getting to, is an apartheid ethno state
[04:34:56] that, and I don't think you use this language, but that is in the process of committing a genocide.
[04:35:01] So we can debate the Israel of the past and the various historical interpretations
[04:35:08] of how we got to this place. But I think you're correct when you say we have to deal with
[04:35:11] the reality of today. And, you know, I would argue that it's not just the Netanyahu government.
[04:35:17] We can we can certainly argue that point. But, you know, we have Jake Sullivan, who
[04:35:21] just came out and said that he regrets the Biden policy of the bear hug. He thinks they
[04:35:26] should have done more to restrain Israel. And I'm wondering if you have any regrets,
[04:35:31] because now you're voting in a somewhat different way, you know, both with the NDA shift in
[04:35:35] position with the the Matthew amendment saying hey we should block aid I want to send a message to
[04:35:40] Netanyahu at the peak of the you know the the Gaza onslaught you had a complete siege you had
[04:35:47] entire neighborhoods that were leveled they created the largest population of child amputees
[04:35:52] do you have any regrets about your votes during that time period I I don't because
[04:35:57] That's a crazy admission. Oh my lord. Oh my god. Oh, holy moly. I don't
[04:36:07] You didn't even have to you didn't even have the dignity to say like yeah, I actually I actually do think it was inappropriate
[04:36:15] Fuck man. These people. Oh
[04:36:18] My god, they are demonic
[04:36:21] They are demonic
[04:36:27] Yeah, no, definitely. That's what happened. Come on, man. October 7 happened. We should
[04:36:51] allow them to do a genocide. Like what do you mean? This guy's so unbelievably demonic
[04:37:00] it almost gave me a heart attacks his moe, Chackage. Washington. He just tried to come
[04:37:07] in all nice too. Austin Hussball and Ron have done and their desire is to wipe out the state
[04:37:19] Yeah. Also, famously, no one ever thinks about October 7 and everyone has forgotten about
[04:37:28] October 7. What are you talking about? There's never a day that goes by where someone defending
[04:37:35] Israel doesn't go, oh, remember October 7? It's kind of the whole point of this genocide is like,
[04:37:42] well, you know, October 7 happens, so we got to fucking kill them all, you know?
[04:37:45] Israel and all the Jews living there. Is that not I mean that's in Hamas's charter and Hamas is still
[04:37:52] Extent they're still doing that. I don't like the whole argument is Israel needs to be safe for Jews
[04:37:56] Which it isn't unless it only Jews live there
[04:38:00] It's not hard to comprehend honestly wait what?
[04:38:03] No, it's a ridiculous argument because it's currently a Jewish majority state and it's objectively unsafe for Jews
[04:38:11] Like what do you think? What do you think is a safer place for Jews to live in?
[04:38:15] the Upper West Side of New York City, or fucking Tel Aviv, okay?
[04:38:23] I feel like New York is objectively a far-save Sherman Oaks, Beverly Hills, okay?
[04:38:33] Even Iran, before Israel started, and America started blowing it up.
[04:38:45] where they blew up one of the older synagogues.
[04:38:51] How did you not name anywhere in South Florida?
[04:39:01] Oh yeah, Boko Raton.
[04:39:04] The way Israel decided to defend themselves, but the solution being proposed is,
[04:39:10] And, and, and this is the consequence of what you're saying is, sorry, you know, we had
[04:39:15] this idea back in 1948, we were going to give you a state, uh, and that way you could protect
[04:39:20] yourself against all these tax didn't work out.
[04:39:22] So go back to Europe, go, go wherever this just isn't going to work anymore.
[04:39:27] And I don't think you understand how difficult that is to just go, yeah, I guess that's
[04:39:33] fine.
[04:39:34] Because no, I think the question, let me, and this is not, you know, this is my perspective.
[04:39:38] Hassan is a Psyop to make the masses believe that 9-11 is real.
[04:39:46] Yeah.
[04:39:48] I love that 9-11 was fake is an awesome position that I rarely ever encounter in the wild.
[04:39:54] So respect.
[04:39:55] But I think this is also what the Democratic Party base in particular and most of the country view at this point is why should our tax dollars given all the things in the world and all the things in our country?
[04:40:07] That's why I voted for the Massey amendment.
[04:40:10] That could be, you know, spent in much more effective ways.
[04:40:13] Exactly.
[04:40:14] Why should that be going to prop up an ethno-state that is an apartheid state, and I wonder if
[04:40:19] you agree with that characterization, that has been committing, if you don't wanna say
[04:40:22] genocide, certainly war crimes with that tax money.
[04:40:26] That's fine.
[04:40:27] Yeah.
[04:40:28] Look, no, that's why I voted for the Massey amendment.
[04:40:29] I don't think we should be sending that money over there.
[04:40:32] look, I have concerns about Halas, about Hezbollah, that people don't seem to share.
[04:40:39] Let's say that this plays out the way you just-
[04:40:41] Why?
[04:40:47] You are the representative from Washington State. I wish more people would be like,
[04:40:55] why do you have this concern? No, seriously, what kind of concern does Hamas, what kind
[04:41:10] of threat does Hamas or Hezbollah pose to the constituents in fucking Washington state?
[04:41:22] What could they possibly do to Washington state?
[04:41:28] Are you diminishing the Asala attack on Tacoma, Washington?
[04:41:32] Yeah.
[04:41:33] Like, but Hamas makes sense if you're in fucking Israel, okay?
[04:41:39] If you're a member of the Knesset.
[04:41:41] And even then, the argument is, of course, well, why does Hamas exist?
[04:41:45] Well, you fucking kind of forced their hand, okay?
[04:41:51] It's really funny that guy from Washington is like, you don't understand. I mean, the fucking Houthis, man.
[04:42:03] Hamas, they pose a existential threat to Washington state. You don't understand. My district is always
[04:42:12] talking about this. Subscribe. And okay, there is no Jewish chef, no state. And then the consequence
[04:42:17] of that is there is no Jewish state. Basically, you have the Palestinians, as they would now
[04:42:23] be governing that area, and that means Hamas would be governing that area. Do you?
[04:42:28] Okay. What makes you believe that the Palestinians that would be governing, first of all, what
[04:42:35] makes you believe that the Palestinians would be governing the area would democratically
[04:42:37] vote for Hamas? There is no indication of such a reality. That's number one. Number
[04:42:43] What makes you think Hamas itself, okay? What makes you think Hamas itself would be a violent
[04:42:49] militant formation if they had a fucking established nation-state and there was no occupation?
[04:42:59] Like what are we talking about people always do the but Hamas thing, but they never even think about it like
[04:43:04] They have paragliders idiot. What are they gonna do?
[04:43:06] Paraglide into Lebanon? What are we talking about? They're not Israel. They're not going to fucking besiege other countries in the region.
[04:43:19] It's a nationalist emancipatory movement against the Israeli occupation, against the Israeli apartheid.
[04:43:26] They're going to paraglide into Washington state.
[04:43:36] They're going to paraglide into downtown Tacoma, sir.
[04:43:46] Wait, wouldn't there still be a Jewish majority even if they integrated the West Bank in Gaza
[04:43:51] into one state?
[04:43:52] No, there wouldn't, because there's approximately 2 million non-Jews that are citizens, Palestinian
[04:43:59] citizens of Israel, the 48ers.
[04:44:03] So no, it would, I think it would literally be a majority Palestinian.
[04:44:10] This is before we even talk about the right to return.
[04:44:13] And if you were to bring up the right to return, these guys really lose their fuck-a-mise.
[04:44:16] They're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna have the demographic concerns.
[04:44:33] This is where the demographic concerns argument comes from, because there is a, here's what
[04:44:41] it is, okay?
[04:44:42] If you end the apartheid, if you end the occupation, the reality is whether there's a binational
[04:44:47] commitment or a single state, it'll be majority non-Jews, okay?
[04:44:53] And from their perspective, that means that they could literally democratically vote to
[04:44:58] change the name of the state from Israel to Palestine. They could democratically vote
[04:45:03] to have anti-racism laws. They could basically democratically dismantle a lot of the unjust,
[04:45:10] unequal and outright racist laws that Israel has implemented. Now, for normal people who don't have
[04:45:20] an insane ethno-religious supremacist point of view, you'd be like, that's great. That's what's
[04:45:26] supposed to happen in a country. What are we talking? That's the end, an abolition of an apartheid.
[04:45:30] That's cool. I like that. But Zionists consider that to be an existential threat. And then they'll
[04:45:40] just get really fucking racist with it too. They'll say like, oh, they're going to implement Sharia law.
[04:45:45] Yon. Ultimately, this is why we say, ultimately, this is why we say Zionism is racism. Zionism
[04:46:04] of fascist ideology because that is the the unironic, unvarnished foundational belief that like
[04:46:15] non-Jews and Jews cannot live side by side with one another without the Jews dominating the non-Jews
[04:46:24] because non-Jews don't know right from wrong. They're barbaric. They're not superior. Now I'm not
[04:46:31] Not saying every person believes this, of course, that's not the case.
[04:46:35] There's plenty of anti-Zionist Jews, there's plenty of Jews that don't actually consider
[04:46:39] themselves to be Zionists at all.
[04:46:42] But if you are a Zionist, even of the liberal variety, this is unironically what you believe
[04:46:51] at the end of the day, which is why if you exhaust the talking points with liberal Zionists,
[04:46:56] they will inevitably arrive at a similar position to the Benjamin Netanyahu's of the world that
[04:47:00] they seemingly oppose. And of course, never forget, there has never been a period of history
[04:47:14] where there were more Jewish Zionists than non-Jewish Zionists. Never. From its inception,
[04:47:24] was overwhelmingly favored by, often times, unironically anti-Semitic Christians. First,
[04:47:33] as a vehicle for settler colonial terrorism, and also a perfect solution to the problem of the
[04:47:42] perfidious Jews that they thought were ruining British society, that's the Balfour Declaration,
[04:47:49] and and still continued around the globe by Christians for the most part. Evangelical,
[04:47:56] Evangelical Zionism is a far larger force. It is a prominent defender of Zionism.
[04:48:07] Do you have any problem with that? Do you have any problem with Hamas suddenly becoming a much
[04:48:18] more powerful entity and having the country, you know, from the river to the sea, if you
[04:48:22] will.
[04:48:23] That's all.
[04:48:24] Now I can answer a simple question for me.
[04:48:25] It's an honest question.
[04:48:26] I'm not here to troll.
[04:48:27] How can you support the Houthis and say such positive things about them despite their mass
[04:48:29] human trafficking of tens of thousands of children?
[04:48:32] Some as young as nine years old.
[04:48:34] Yeah, I'm not in favor of that.
[04:48:39] But as far as like an entity, as far as a country that is opposing Israel's genocide,
[04:48:45] You know, clearly the Palestinians need all the help they can get.
[04:48:56] You feel me?
[04:48:58] Also, this is not even the Houthis, this is the former government.
[04:49:18] Ask that same chatter about Israel hiding petals.
[04:49:20] Dog, ask that same chatter about the human trafficking Israel did to Yemeni Jews.
[04:49:26] like that's what's such a funny that's such a funny line because like Israel
[04:49:32] literally fucking kidnapped Yemeni Jews when they were babies and gave them to
[04:49:39] Ashkenazi families
[04:49:44] it's a real thing
[04:49:49] it was a dude what
[04:49:56] Yes, I know it was Autovic, but a fan of YouTube.
[04:50:00] Yeah, it was Autovic, because a fan of yours asked me to ask you, so I did.
[04:50:03] Okay, well, I hope.
[04:50:09] I hope it helped you understand my position.
[04:50:13] I would wholeheartedly condemn that.
[04:50:14] I mean, I condemn all kidnapping of children.
[04:50:17] Yes, the easiest question of all time.
[04:50:20] I don't give a fuck who's doing it.
[04:50:23] I don't know why you think I'm writing for that.
[04:50:30] I ride for easy company in World War II.
[04:50:34] Does that mean I ride for segregation?
[04:50:37] Does that mean I ride for horrifying mistreatment of the LGBTQ?
[04:50:45] Does that mean I ride for women not being able to work regular jobs?
[04:50:51] No.
[04:50:52] I just think what Easy Company did during World War 2 was fucking dope.
[04:50:59] You feel me?
[04:51:09] Do you understand?
[04:51:12] Does that make sense to you?
[04:51:25] When you think about the United States of America and its actions during World War II,
[04:51:33] Do you think about segregation, racism, Japanese internment, or do you think about the positive
[04:51:44] actions that America contributed to by attacking and defeating the Nazi scourge?
[04:51:50] Honestly, I understand.
[04:51:51] I disagree.
[04:51:52] Okay.
[04:51:53] Okay.
[04:51:54] I'm going to ask you that question one more time.
[04:51:59] Why do you hate Easy Company?
[04:52:02] Why do you hate the United States of America's actions in World War II?
[04:52:05] Are you a fan of Adolf Hitler?
[04:52:08] Or are you a real hater of Adolf Hitler?
[04:52:11] Because I'm a real hater of Adolf Hitler.
[04:52:20] No, I obviously hate that.
[04:52:28] Good.
[04:52:29] Okay.
[04:52:30] Do you ride for the Allied forces during World War II?
[04:52:53] But at the same time, I'm assuming the Allied action is a World War II.
[04:52:57] Okay.
[04:52:59] What the fuck's going on is this guy gonna be like a like a clean ver mocked
[04:53:06] Understander
[04:53:08] Where are we going here man?
[04:53:13] Where are you going with this?
[04:53:24] Did you just say both sides were bad during World War two
[04:53:29] No, I would just consider myself a moderate, but I doubt you believe me. No, I believe you. I'm entertaining the conversation. I'm just very confused as to where you're going with this.
[04:53:38] Do you agree with the actions of Easy Company?
[04:53:43] During World War II, I ask you a very specific question.
[04:53:47] Do you agree with the actions of Easy Company during World War II?
[04:53:51] Or would you turn around and not salute World War II veterans because you would turn around and say, hey, I'm sorry, America was a segregationist shithole during that time.
[04:54:02] So I'm too woke. I'm too woke to fucking dick ride.
[04:54:09] Easy company.
[04:54:11] So you do you agree. Okay, well then you understand my position.
[04:54:16] Yeah, I was worth them, but if I found out the traffic, then since I was the kids, I
[04:54:37] wouldn't know.
[04:54:39] dog
[04:54:44] America literally instituted chattel slavery. What the fuck are you talking about? What is that? If not the trafficking and
[04:54:51] and
[04:54:52] genocidal actions of a fucking country of
[04:54:56] millions
[04:54:59] Hello
[04:55:01] Hello
[04:55:03] My point is, do you attribute all of that to the actions of the Allied forces when you're
[04:55:14] making that calculation?
[04:55:15] Of course you're not.
[04:55:18] What is this?
[04:55:30] Have you found their Reddit?
[04:56:00] Who sniped his Reddit account?
[04:56:16] How sweaty is this lobby?
[04:56:18] This is the sweatiest of all lobbies.
[04:56:21] Damn bro, they said a fan asked them.
[04:56:27] Turns out he's his biggest fan.
[04:56:30] He's like, no, I'm my biggest fan dog. It wasn't a lie when I said a fan wanted me to ask you this question as a moderate
[04:56:40] It's just so funny to be like, hey man
[04:56:45] We really we really got a we really got a reconsider while a genocide was ongoing
[04:56:52] the actions of one of the only fucking countries in the region that did anything they could to try to impede Israel's genocide.
[04:57:02] What's really problematic is what they have on their banner. Their banner is anti-semitic.
[04:57:08] There's Saudi-backed reports that they were doing child slavery or whatever.
[04:57:17] reports from when Saudi Arabia was was implementing a famine in Yemen.
[04:57:35] It's got nothing to do with their banner. Just a strawman. No, I'm just just bringing up common critiques like silly critiques.
[04:57:44] I'm against supporting a group that traffics kids regardless of the good do the things dog
[04:57:51] You literally just said you support the American military in World War two the American government
[04:57:57] Trafficked a fuck ton of children black children. Okay
[04:58:02] So obviously, you have actually been in support of a government that has trafficked millions,
[04:58:16] entire families, and continued to enslave them.
[04:58:22] Yeah, I would criticize and be against them.
[04:58:27] I wouldn't praise them.
[04:58:31] You just told me you were in support of the American government's actions during World
[04:58:38] War II.
[04:58:45] I have the same approach that you do to the Houthis.
[04:58:57] Defensive Kyle, very moderate. You can ask about what Destiny's content is like, but
[04:59:01] no one here will give you an honest take, because none of them actually watches content.
[04:59:04] They probably saw a single clip that they strongly disagree with and wrote Destiny
[04:59:07] office, I'm insane conservative. They probably think that Destiny agreeing with written
[04:59:10] house and verdict. Oh, long-term fan. Hey, it's on long-term fan. A friend of mine wanted
[04:59:17] to hear what your takes on the Houthis are.
[04:59:21] There's how you don't have issues with people who predate on children.
[04:59:32] Perhaps this was an insincere, perhaps this was an insincere debate that you posed.
[04:59:44] Oh, chat or delete your Reddit account right now.
[05:00:01] This chat is European, you can't believe probably that makes sense.
[05:00:13] you constantly complain about people bringing up old clips of you now you're bringing up
[05:00:17] past comments of mine?
[05:00:19] Wait.
[05:00:24] You came in here claiming you were a long time fan who was just simply a moderate and
[05:00:30] then we found out that you were defending Destiny three years ago in a H3H3 Productions
[05:00:39] post, brigading at the behest of DGG. It kind of feels like you're not just some random guy.
[05:00:47] Never said I was a long time fan. Wait, maybe I misunderstood.
[05:00:54] How can you support the Houthis? Someone's the only nine years old. I guess it was off topic. Yeah,
[05:00:59] it was off topic because a fan of yours asked me, so I did. I would wholeheartedly condemn. I'm very
[05:01:03] anti-Israel. Honestly, I understand, but I disagree. I think it's immoral. Yeah, I do think about that.
[05:01:08] I've done extensive research in World War 2. Okay, I guess you didn't say you were a long time fan
[05:01:18] You just said you were a fan of my YouTube
[05:01:21] He's going to say, oh, never said I was a long, bro, you never hate when people bring
[05:01:37] up old clips because you're always so consistent.
[05:01:40] No, I hate when people bring clips out of context of me.
[05:01:47] It's always just asking questions as chatter is doing
[05:01:55] Yeah, no, I'm against child trafficking and and any kind of child predation
[05:02:02] Having said that
[05:02:04] When I watch band of brothers a tear fucking a tear a
[05:02:10] Teardrop
[05:02:12] rolls
[05:02:13] Pass my cheek and I stand up and I salute the brave boys who raw baby
[05:02:28] Regardless of America's history of defending chattel slavery, which is you know
[05:02:35] The the enslavement of millions kidnapping of children
[05:02:41] All that stuff
[05:02:43] Do that comment look finished and whole to you?
[05:02:54] They probably think that Destiny grew and Carl Rittenhouse's verdict is evidence of
[05:02:57] this.
[05:02:58] Even though Destiny said what Carl did was incredibly stupid, but that didn't take away
[05:03:00] his right to self-defense.
[05:03:01] It's the most basic take in the world that 99% of people in the world would agree with
[05:03:05] if they had a reason to discuss, if they had a reason discussion and laid on the facts.
[05:03:09] But unfortunately, most people are unwilling to look past that headline.
[05:03:11] Brother, I'm gonna be honest. You are the the number one dick eater of of a
[05:03:17] Sex pest who operates a cult. It's very clear you're fighting his battles and other subreddits
[05:03:22] You're brigading other subreddits at his behest and you're doing that here right now. I'm so confused
[05:03:29] Develop your own independent thoughts. Please I beg of you. Okay, and
[05:03:35] That's why it's so unbelievably unproductive to have these sorts of conversations with people like yourself because you don't have any
[05:03:41] Like, you don't have any investment in arriving at a reasonable conclusion here. You're just in here to
[05:03:47] to further engage with a barrage of half-remembered talking points that you got from somewhere else,
[05:03:56] a pedantic conversation that gets increasingly tiring. That's it.
[05:04:04] You'll hear what they think is about taking immediately right off everything else that
[05:04:07] explains the take. I would challenge any H3 fans that have issues destined to bring up a single
[05:04:11] issue they have with him and 9 out of 10 I'll find someone who doesn't know the facts surrounding it.
[05:04:26] Anyway,
[05:04:31] it is kind of crazy because back in the day I think like the quality of the
[05:04:38] The quality of the debate pervertry has diminished a lot in recent years as like his audience
[05:04:48] size has diminished because, you know, he keeps fucking up.
[05:04:52] He keeps doing horrible shit to everyone in his immediate vicinity that, you know, even
[05:04:59] the biggest diehard fans of his inevitably pull out and they're like, Oh, I can't do
[05:05:04] this anymore.
[05:05:05] You're really fucked up this time.
[05:05:07] And one thing I've noticed is that while the band bass has become even more cultish,
[05:05:14] they used to be a little bit more sophisticated, all things considered.
[05:05:24] Nowadays it's just not great.
[05:05:29] Nowadays, it's a hive mind.
[05:05:35] I think Israel did a number on the cult, the sex past any cult, and perhaps the court case
[05:05:43] too.
[05:05:44] Well, we'll now be a Hamas run state on the Mediterranean.
[05:05:52] Are you okay with that?
[05:05:53] Well, first of all, I'm not convinced that that would be the reality.
[05:05:56] Well, how would it not be?
[05:05:57] I don't know how you can get away from how illiberal it is to not support equal rights
[05:06:04] for people regardless of their Jewish, Arab, Muslim, Christian, etc.
[05:06:08] But Hamas doesn't support equal rights either.
[05:06:12] Do you support two-state solution?
[05:06:14] Is that your idea?
[05:06:15] Look, I...
[05:06:16] No, Hamas supports the abolition of the apartheid at the end of the occupation, which is a
[05:06:22] far closer position to equal rights.
[05:06:25] Then the Zionist position is.
[05:06:41] Yes.
[05:06:42] So how do we get there?
[05:06:43] How do we get there?
[05:06:44] No, but listen.
[05:06:45] No, listen.
[05:06:46] No, stop, stop, stop.
[05:06:47] Hold on, hold on.
[05:06:48] I can answer this one.
[05:06:49] How do we get there at a time?
[05:06:50] No, hold on.
[05:06:51] of settlements that have made it effectively impossible to explain before all this makes
[05:06:57] sense in order to create a Palestinian state.
[05:07:01] Look, let's go back to what you said.
[05:07:04] You never want to be, at least optically, you never want to be the guy going, stop,
[05:07:09] stop, and like yelling over and over again while the host is trying to deliver the end
[05:07:17] of one point.
[05:07:18] I support a two-state solution.
[05:07:20] i'm also aware of the fact that it's probably no longer possible
[05:07:23] you didn't let me get that part out okay which is really kind of important to
[05:07:26] this whole conversation i would agree that it's very disappointing
[05:07:30] i mean and there's a lot of blame to go around for why we got there yes i would
[05:07:34] like to see two states solution i am not naive as you just described to know
[05:07:38] that it's simply not on the table at this point and that creates a massive
[05:07:41] massive problem
[05:07:43] but the idea again the easy solution is okay
[05:07:46] we get rid of the jewish ethno state
[05:07:49] and i i the details of how israel is currently running you know their
[05:07:53] country
[05:07:53] there are
[05:07:54] there are a rams in the parliamented but there are parts of the third okay so we
[05:07:58] get rid of that
[05:08:00] so what's your idea for what replaces that you say you're not convinced that
[05:08:04] it'll be a hummus run thing well i've i've offered that i listen i i really
[05:08:08] honestly think that this is something for palestinians and israelis to decide
[05:08:12] I don't know why it is American taxpayer business to fund this.
[05:08:17] And again, that's why I voted for the Massey amendment.
[05:08:19] But what it was, that's an incredible idea.
[05:08:20] Here's an incredible-
[05:08:21] Bro thinks the Massey amendment is just like, like he voted for the Massey amendment.
[05:08:27] You can't criticize me.
[05:08:29] Like, he thinks it's the magic, he thinks it's like the magic word.
[05:08:35] Like what, you think it's a shield, dude?
[05:08:37] That's your protection?
[05:08:38] Good luck.
[05:08:39] Excuse me, I voted for the Massey amendment. Okay. Well, you also said you voted to fund
[05:08:46] Israel's war crimes during the process of the genocide and you have no, when you, when
[05:08:51] you recollect on your decisions back then, you have no issues with it.
[05:08:55] No, you, you don't support a, you know, one state solution. You don't support a two state
[05:09:00] solution. There is no good solution. That's where you are. That is the reality of where
[05:09:04] we are now. No good. No good solution.
[05:09:06] I'm open ideas, but let's understand the history of this.
[05:09:10] That is a great book compact.
[05:09:11] Oh, I love, I love when these guys go,
[05:09:15] let's talk about the history.
[05:09:19] You're about to hear the most one-sided,
[05:09:24] nonsensical outright fucking racist,
[05:09:29] garbanzo beans you've ever heard.
[05:09:32] At least he's done the reading
[05:09:33] or at least he's claiming to have done the reading.
[05:09:35] So that's good.
[05:09:36] Most people don't even do that.
[05:09:38] They just repeat shit that they've heard from others.
[05:09:42] Let's take a look.
[05:09:42] Palestine, 1936, that described what was going on.
[05:09:46] So you were coming to the end of the British mandate.
[05:09:49] And you had the Jews had been...
[05:09:51] Nevermind, this is actually shocking.
[05:09:53] I should have let him cook.
[05:09:55] I'll hold on.
[05:09:56] Coming in since the 19th century.
[05:09:57] They'd been there a long, long time ago.
[05:10:00] And they were looking for a place to be.
[05:10:03] the palestinians were going to drive out the bridge
[05:10:06] the palestinian Arabs reached a conclusion in the 1930s and said okay
[05:10:10] jews you can stay
[05:10:12] but you're not going to run anything
[05:10:13] okay jews said no we can't say so they started civil war
[05:10:16] okay they fought
[05:10:18] and then of course nineteen forty eight they got the country created another war
[05:10:22] was started
[05:10:24] where holy wow
[05:10:27] that is not what happened my man
[05:10:30] no
[05:10:32] Balfour Declaration, Jewish migration into British Mandate Palestine, and at first, at
[05:10:39] first, there is land acquisitions that take place, fine, sure.
[05:10:45] Not the most arable land, it's all good, okay?
[05:10:50] He already skipped past the point of the Nakba, but that's besides the point, but we're gonna
[05:10:57] get to that in a second.
[05:11:01] The British-occupied Palestinian territory after World War I was not favorable to the
[05:11:08] Palestinian occupants, the Arab occupants, in any way, shape, or form.
[05:11:14] It was the start of a settler-colonial operation.
[05:11:20] Mass migrations of Jews begin, and the British occupation absolutely favors the Jewish settlers
[05:11:29] as opposed to the Palestinian population. The Palestinian population are experiencing similar
[05:11:35] kinds of settler attacks that you see in the West Bank today. Okay? And the British occupation,
[05:11:42] similar to the Israeli occupation, defends the actions, the pogroms, the actions that
[05:11:48] the Arab indigenous population are receiving in the hands of Jewish settlers. Okay? There's
[05:11:55] a lot of land grabs, there's pogroms that take place. The Arabs, who make up the overwhelming
[05:12:01] majority of the working class at the time, try to implement strikes in the process. They
[05:12:07] try all of the different peaceful ways of resistance. In the process, they also develop
[05:12:14] some kind of militant resistance as well. Okay? Palestinians, not Arabs, yes. Palestinians,
[05:12:22] occupants, the actual occupants of first the area known as Palestine under Ottoman occupation,
[05:12:32] if you want to call it that, and then British occupation, British Mandate Palestine.
[05:12:41] There's a lot of back and forth. The Palestinians inevitably end up losing because the British
[05:12:47] heavily favor the Jewish settler colonial project. By the time,
[05:12:57] by the time that the the British leave, okay, by the time the British leave,
[05:13:05] the Jewish settlers have all the money, the Jewish settlers have all the weapons,
[05:13:10] the Jewish settlers have more and more land. Some they've purchased, some they've actually
[05:13:17] pushed the Palestinians out of. And then, by 1947, the Jewish settlers design different Zionist
[05:13:32] brigades, okay? In the aftermath of World War II, in the aftermath of World War II,
[05:13:40] There is, of course, unprecedented levels of migration.
[05:13:46] There are a lot of refugees that are coming from all around Europe, okay?
[05:13:51] They develop Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi as like the three primary Zionist brigades.
[05:14:03] You could consider them de facto terrorist organizations, because at the time there is
[05:14:07] no established nation states.
[05:14:09] So they are technically de facto terrorist organizations.
[05:14:13] They are able to get a lot of arms from other countries.
[05:14:19] The USSR is one of the countries that actually traffic arms by way of Czechoslovakia.
[05:14:29] There's an embargo, and yet many people still send arms to the Zionist brigades at that
[05:14:37] point. And they establish, which Ilhan Pappe uncovered, plan Dalit. The purpose of plan
[05:14:49] Dalit is to create, to generate massacres in key Palestinian villages, Palestinian villages that
[05:14:57] have like neighborhood agreements with Jewish villages, Palestinian villages that are next to
[05:15:03] Jewish villages that already have established good relations with said Jewish villages.
[05:15:10] They go to Deir Yassin and numerous other Palestinian villages and they slaughter the people there.
[05:15:17] Then they also hold hostage some of the Palestinians and parade them through the streets
[05:15:23] in Jewish neighborhoods. The purpose of this is to get the other Palestinian villages to take note
[05:15:32] of these massacres that are taking place. Okay? So that when they encircle other Palestinian
[05:15:43] villages in the process from 1947 to 1948, also known as Nakba, the Nakba, which leads
[05:15:50] to the inception of the Jewish state, state of Israel, when they encircle these other
[05:15:57] Palestinian villages, including major cities where Palestinians used to live that are now
[05:16:03] considered cities within the Israeli green line, they are forced to escape. In circle the villages,
[05:16:13] they sometimes slaughter some of the Palestinians and also they blast clan tactics, they blast
[05:16:22] through speakers, like through megaphone speakers, whatever the fuck they had in technology.
[05:16:28] I don't know what it's called back then. Sounds of machine gun fire, bombs exploding,
[05:16:36] people screaming. They basically torture the Palestinian inhabitants of major cities, and
[05:16:44] after they encircle the cities, they only leave one exit point so that all of the Palestinians
[05:16:52] in, can escape through that appropriate, uh, expiltration point. Yeah, megaphone, machine
[05:16:59] gun, fire, screams, yeah. A process that Israel still utilizes against the Palestinians to
[05:17:06] this day.
[05:17:07] As we know in Gaza, there are drones that will play the, the sound of a crying baby to
[05:17:12] draw out a, a, uh, a Palestinian that wants to help only to kill them. This is a thing
[05:17:18] that they're still doing. It was what they were doing back then as well. Once those Palestinians
[05:17:24] leave their homes with their keys, assuming that they're inevitably going to be able to return,
[05:17:33] they're never allowed to return ever again. This process is systemic ethnic cleansing,
[05:17:42] also known as the Nakba, something that he just completely fucking glanced over,
[05:17:47] as though it was insignificant and consequential. Only after that do the other surrounding Arab
[05:17:53] nations decide to take matters into their own hands, which Israel calls its war of independence.
[05:18:00] Okay, 750,000 Palestinians were displaced in the process, 750,000, many of which
[05:18:11] were never allowed to return ever again. It glossed over. I shouldn't have said glanced over.
[05:18:18] He glossed over it as though it wasn't consequential at all. That is the inception of the Israeli
[05:18:25] nation-state. That is something that most people don't know about. Many Jews don't learn about this
[05:18:32] process because Zionist education, Zionist indoctrination requires people not to know the truth.
[05:18:41] But not what was just in a circle, but it was a tag and destroy, I already brought that
[05:18:47] up.
[05:18:48] I thought the militias attacked the villages first.
[05:18:51] Wait, what?
[05:18:54] I just explained that.
[05:19:03] That is how the Israeli state was established through unprecedented violence, often times
[05:19:21] in the hands of people who had just experienced the Holocaust, okay?
[05:19:30] around and doing unlimited violence to the Arab-Palestinian inhabitants of this land
[05:19:38] that they wanted. And it's not like at its root, at its inception, the Zionist groups
[05:19:50] were oblivious to the colonialism that they were engaging in. They were aware of it. Because
[05:20:00] Because at the time there wasn't such liberal, woke attitudes about colonialism.
[05:20:08] So that they openly said, this is what we're doing.
[05:20:20] Yeah, oldest story in the book, the oppressed become the oppressor.
[05:20:25] what happened. The counterpoint, the Palestinian rights and the Hebron rights is an excuse.
[05:20:39] By the way, nothing issues ethnic cleansing. Yes, there's no excuse for ethnic cleansing.
[05:20:44] And for the record, the Palestinians were rioting because they were frustrated. They
[05:20:48] were frustrated that settler colonialism was happening. And guess what? They weren't
[05:20:53] fucking wrong. That is literally what happened. It's insane. They were writing against the
[05:21:02] British occupation that not only was not offering them statehood, autonomy, dignity, sovereignty,
[05:21:12] but then on top of that was bringing alien inhabitants to the land in order to openly
[05:21:19] displaced them. And that's literally what they did.
[05:21:27] And I know people say, well, this is also war to drive the Palestinians out. It was
[05:21:30] also a war to eliminate Israel, to basically kill Israel and the crib in 1948. And they
[05:21:36] fought and they fought and they fought and they fought. And at no point was there ever
[05:21:40] anything carved out for the Jews. And so the Jews have been fighting. And how did the Jews
[05:21:45] get there my man. There were Jews that lived there. Okay, it was approximately 2.5 percent
[05:21:51] of the population were Jewish. Many of which were in Jerusalem when it was Palestine.
[05:22:00] A land without people for a people without land. It was bullshit from the start.
[05:22:05] There were people. There were inhabitants in that land. There was the indigenous population
[05:22:11] in that land, existential fight, and it's so hard for me to, cuz I know you consider yourself,
[05:22:22] I think liberal, you would describe yourself that way, like in the classical liberal sense.
[05:22:26] But there's no liberal option on the table here, that's what I'm telling you.
[05:22:29] Why?
[05:22:30] You keep saying, illiberal Jews, illegal Jews, we cannot have, illiberal Palestinians are
[05:22:36] fine.
[05:22:37] No, but why so good?
[05:22:38] I voted for it and shouldn't.
[05:22:39] Why should it?
[05:22:40] I already answered that question.
[05:22:41] Okay, so and is that is that your answer for this particular amendment or will that continue to be I think that's where we're at
[05:22:48] So you're done with the US funding Israel. I think working out themselves. Yeah, I'm not a hundred percent
[05:22:53] I gotta see I mean look if if
[05:22:57] Socialists are all the democratic socialists of America are screaming DSA over USA
[05:23:02] And if people actually listen to what they're promising and who they are their own survey says
[05:23:07] 85% white, 80% with a college degree. This is not the old Democratic Party of
[05:23:13] brown and black people, of blue collar workers. These are folks who were told
[05:23:17] by the institution, the academic institutions, fork over six figures, get a
[05:23:22] degree with us, you can support yourself, have home ownership, maybe own a small
[05:23:26] business, be able to live the American dream, however you define that, and they're
[05:23:31] disappointed. Their grievances are weird though because if you actually listen to
[05:23:36] what they're promising, I don't think Republicans right now should just say oh
[05:23:39] socialism, socialism, they should explain to people what that means. That means no
[05:23:43] private ownership. That means health care, which sounds great but costs too much.
[05:23:47] And I actually think letting them talk and explaining who they are and showing
[05:23:51] who they are is a great benefit to the Republican Party. Last point, I was very
[05:23:55] critical in 2022 when our Republican candidates just thought we're gonna have
[05:23:59] a red wave, red tsunami, we don't have to say anything. We have to complete our
[05:24:02] sentences. We have to show the distinction, the difference between
[05:24:05] Republicans and Democrats and your future is the number one free health care number two death
[05:24:10] But they end up with Gaza and then it with anti-Israel and they end up with these these crazy ideas
[05:24:15] It sounds like Bernie Sanders a man who was stopped by the Democrats from being their presidential nominee in 2016 and again
[05:24:21] Is this Kelly and Conway? Why does she look so different?
[05:24:25] You know Jason
[05:24:27] This is kind of an obvious point, but it's a very important point
[05:24:30] point. Everywhere where Democrats socialists are winning is in Democrats strongholds. So
[05:24:37] every single one of these elections where these socialists are taking over.
[05:24:40] Dude, it's so awesome. It's literally near attended.
[05:24:42] There is no daylight between here and Fox News commentators.
[05:24:47] It's not like normal policies that are being rejected here.
[05:24:50] Yeah, there is no daylight between here and Fox News commentators.
[05:24:55] They're driven by authenticity as opposed to some fakeness that's coming out there.
[05:25:00] So what you're seeing is, yeah.
[05:25:03] Someone needs to do a supercut.
[05:25:05] Someone needs to do a supercut of like establishment liberals on CNN saying the identical things
[05:25:10] that Fox News is saying about the DSA.
[05:25:12] Like that, you see the craziness.
[05:25:14] Now, here's one thing that I think has fundamentally changed.
[05:25:17] When Nancy Pelosi kind of came out of favor and out of power, she controlled the purse
[05:25:21] strings.
[05:25:22] What's happened is the DSA has now taken control
[05:25:26] of those purse strings, is getting the money.
[05:25:28] That gives them some sort of the power.
[05:25:30] And what you don't see are the traditional Democrats,
[05:25:33] the politically dead man walking of Chuck Schumer
[05:25:36] and Nancy Pelosi and even Hakeem Jeffries,
[05:25:39] who seem to be out of favor.
[05:25:40] They don't have the control of the financial apparatus
[05:25:44] like they used to and consequently,
[05:25:46] these people are rudderless.
[05:25:47] They don't have a leader.
[05:25:49] They don't have a bench that they can lean towards.
[05:25:52] Yeah, you know Kelly and you mentioned this a minute ago, and I think it's really important
[05:25:57] you know obviously and this is an election where the wind is at Democrats backs and
[05:26:03] For that reason
[05:26:05] Democrats may do very well this time despite all of the socialist lunacy
[05:26:10] It has taken over their party
[05:26:11] But then what happens in two years when they've got all these lunatics in charge and they've got a run an actual election where the
[05:26:20] the the the electorate really does show out show up in full force it's an
[05:26:26] excellent point Charlie because if you look at all the polling believe that the
[05:26:30] future of the Democratic Party socialism but the future of our country is not
[05:26:34] Americans still reject socialism and a poll after polls shows that especially
[05:26:39] among those who can actually define socialism and capitalism and what's
[05:26:43] interesting about the DSA and I think a real conundrum for all those typical
[05:26:47] traditional in office currently party leaders is that this is not anti-GOP, it's not even anti-Trump,
[05:26:55] it's anti-democrat establishment, and it hit the Democrats unknowingly. The analogies to the Tea
[05:27:01] Party don't work. Those folks loved America, they were saying tax enough already. They actually
[05:27:07] reformed their party from the inside and gave way to Trump years later. This is very different,
[05:27:12] I don't think it flies in 2028 across the state that you said.
[05:27:15] Why would that be different?
[05:27:17] This is not, you know.
[05:27:18] The only major difference is,
[05:27:19] well, there's two major differences.
[05:27:20] One, Tea Party sucks dog shit.
[05:27:23] DSA is awesome.
[05:27:25] And number two,
[05:27:26] the Tea Party was a fucking astroturf
[05:27:28] moved by the Koch brothers.
[05:27:30] DSA is backed by the people.
[05:27:32] They say, hey, that's very limited
[05:27:34] in certain places and spaces,
[05:27:36] but this, I'm going to bring my party to the center.
[05:27:39] Let's not be fooled that any of these folks
[05:27:41] going to govern from the center, the GSA just makes it look that way.
[05:27:44] Bro, this shit is awesome. We got them going. We need a strong Democrat party.
[05:27:49] It didn't even take one full year. A couple victories. A couple victories.
[05:27:56] And immediately, we got them singing like Nancy Jedediah Pelosi being like,
[05:28:01] we need a strong Democrat party. What happened?
[05:28:05] What happened?
[05:28:08] We need a strong Democrat party.
[05:28:11] Democrats, what went wrong?
[05:28:13] Can you please go back?
[05:28:14] Can you please go back to being ritualistically humiliated by us?
[05:28:19] Can you please go back to being feckless in your indifference to the growth of fascism
[05:28:24] in this country?
[05:28:25] Please.
[05:28:26] That's like eight fucking races, man.
[05:28:30] That's all it took.
[05:28:32] races and they're singing like Nancy Pelosi. Amazing. Amazing things are happening, ladies and gentlemen.
[05:28:43] Amazing things are happening. Yes, it is impossible for me not to notice how much
[05:28:50] the near attendance of the world sound identical to Fox News commentators, but it's also really
[05:28:57] funny because one of the things that I used to rail against the established Democrats all the time
[05:29:01] Trump is when Nancy Pelosi and other people like that would constantly fucking say, we
[05:29:07] need a strong Republican Party.
[05:29:09] Republicans, Trump is not you.
[05:29:11] You are not Trump.
[05:29:12] You need to purge yourself of the Trump movement, of the MAGA movement.
[05:29:18] They kept deluding themselves that the Republican Party was anything but MAGA, okay?
[05:29:26] And now you have Fox News saying the same, which means that we're shifting the Overton
[05:29:34] window, okay?
[05:29:39] Which means we are shifting the Overton window successfully.
[05:29:42] We are ratcheting the shit back to the left.
[05:29:47] I believe it.
[05:29:48] Also as far as like DSA so white among Democrats, which economic system do you prefer?
[05:29:54] Democrats capitalism by 40% socialism by 38% non-white socialism by 38% capitalism by 27%
[05:30:05] Look at that
[05:30:11] Tell you all the goddamn time
[05:30:13] Which of the following people are socialist sanders 55% mom downing 51% aOC 45% obama
[05:30:18] 27% Harris when he's ever said war 25% Biden 23% Newsom 20% none of the above 28 and none of the above is right
[05:30:38] If tomorrow there's a peace agreement
[05:30:41] Okay, and they actually go forward with something where they create a reasonable alternative for the Palestinians in Gaza
[05:30:48] If they actually stop what they're doing in the West Bank and get the peace in Lebanon,
[05:30:53] that may change.
[05:30:54] I don't see that happening, which is why I give you the answer I gave.
[05:30:57] But again, this notion that somehow there's a liberal option on the table, and how could
[05:31:03] we possibly support the illiberal state of Israel?
[05:31:07] What's going to come in there, okay?
[05:31:10] It's going to be liberal.
[05:31:11] Now, I'm with you on the taxpayer dollar piece, but-
[05:31:13] You mentioned Rahm Emanuel's speech you said you associate yourself.
[05:31:17] If memory serves, he supports banking sanctions on Israel.
[05:31:21] We sanctioned our time in South Africa.
[05:31:24] You support that?
[05:31:25] I am one of the original co-sponsors of the West Bank Violence Prevention Act, which
[05:31:32] sanctions Israel for what they're doing in the West Bank.
[05:31:35] Yes, absolutely.
[05:31:36] It's wrong.
[05:31:37] It shouldn't be done yet.
[05:31:38] We should sanction them.
[05:31:39] We should specifically sanction.
[05:31:40] no church in Ben Gavir who are advocating so much of this. Yes. Okay. All right. Let's move on to
[05:31:46] some of these broader disagreements. And I guess a good transition into that is how much do you
[05:31:51] think the question of the relationship with Israel Palestine is serving as a litmus test
[05:31:57] in democratic primaries? You know, from my perspective, it's been very important because it
[05:32:01] serves as a proxy for kind of a host of other issues and concerns that the democratic base has
[05:32:05] with the democratic party at this point. But I'm curious your perspective on how important
[05:32:10] that has become and the reason why you think it has become an important issue.
[05:32:14] It's becoming more important. It's not the most important issue. The most important issue. It's
[05:32:18] not even close to the most important issue in these primaries. The most important issue that
[05:32:22] is driving the anti-establishment feelings in the primaries is two things. Number one,
[05:32:29] the belief that we have not effectively fought Trump. When you look at what really drives these
[05:32:35] people. Yes, Israel's part of it, but it's also going after you were part of the establishment,
[05:32:40] how come you didn't beat Trump? Now, I have a complaint here, and that is that a lot of the
[05:32:45] policies of the DSA and the left, open borders, defund the police, the idea that you can't possibly
[05:32:53] spend enough government money, identity politics, a lot of those things are what gave Trump his power.
[05:33:00] And part of the reason those of us in the establishment struggle to beat Donald Trump
[05:33:05] is we were having to defend policies like open borders, okay?
[05:33:10] And Trump walked right into that, all right?
[05:33:13] So the notion that there is, it's just the establishment that led to Trump losing, I
[05:33:18] think, is in this place.
[05:33:19] Can we pause there for one second?
[05:33:21] Go ahead, get to your critique.
[05:33:23] So, you know, and so, and I certainly, but I also think that the establishment of Democratic
[05:33:28] party in the whole Joe Biden thing. Nominating, you know, even thinking about
[05:33:32] nominating Joe Biden. Well, because he was, he couldn't, I don't care how old he is,
[05:33:37] he just couldn't speak. Okay. He couldn't communicate clearly. Yeah. You know,
[05:33:41] whether that was because he was older, because he couldn't communicate clearly,
[05:33:45] you know, it had the same effect. And then the second big issue is income
[05:33:49] inequality is absolutely true that whoever has been governing for the last 20
[05:33:53] 30 years hasn't done enough to create opportunity for enough people.
[05:33:59] Those two issues, I think, really drove the feeling of let's try something different.
[05:34:04] Now the question is whether or not the DSA agenda of, you know, is actually going to
[05:34:11] achieve either of those objectives.
[05:34:14] Is that what's going to help us defeat Trump and MAGA?
[05:34:16] Is that what is going to build a more broad-based economic thing?
[05:34:19] But this is where I am very sympathetic with the DSA.
[05:34:22] I'm an economic populist.
[05:34:23] All right, I think we should rewrite the tax code
[05:34:25] to actually tax rich people.
[05:34:28] I've been working with a woman, Ray Maddoff.
[05:34:30] She's a professor at Boston College.
[05:34:32] We wrote a book about how we built our tax code
[05:34:34] so that investors...
[05:34:35] So he's saying that DSA had an open borough policy
[05:34:37] in 2024, which caused Trump to win.
[05:34:39] The bottom was the runner
[05:34:39] and DSA was not running anything with the fucks he's saying.
[05:34:43] He's just chirping into the fucking wind.
[05:34:46] It doesn't have to make sense.
[05:34:48] It's just a rehashing of the exact same unprincipled dogmatic approach, which is we didn't pivot
[05:34:58] to the center hard enough.
[05:35:00] And that's why we lost the Trump, okay?
[05:35:05] That's it.
[05:35:07] That's it.
[05:35:08] He's just slapping the DSA sticker onto it because he just learned about it recently.
[05:35:14] You understand?
[05:35:16] Biden was DSA cadre.
[05:35:17] Yeah, Biden. That's right, Jack. I love Eugene Debs. Man, I'm a long time ago. Good guy.
[05:35:28] He was. He told me Biden. He's just repeating Republican talking points into the air that
[05:35:39] dumb liberals in DC only, by the way, bought immediate after 2024. That's why the base hates
[05:35:43] because they all suggested surrendering the Trump? Yes. Yes. Male version of Diana to get.
[05:35:53] Jews don't ever pay taxes. Let's change that, okay? I'm very pro-union. Stock buybacks.
[05:35:58] Why do we have stock buybacks? They didn't exist prior to 1982. So obviously, corporations can
[05:36:04] exist without them. On that agenda, on there, part of the problem I have with the broader agenda is
[05:36:11] You can't have free stuff for everybody all the time.
[05:36:14] A, and another message that the last gave us in the last 10 years was that deficits and
[05:36:19] debts don't matter.
[05:36:20] Are you familiar with modern monetary theory?
[05:36:22] Of course.
[05:36:23] Yeah.
[05:36:24] It's absurd.
[05:36:25] The idea that we just spend as much money as possible is not a problem.
[05:36:28] Now, I want to tax people.
[05:36:29] I want a better social welfare state, but to argue that we can have a better social welfare
[05:36:33] state because the debt doesn't matter, undermines the credibility that I teach.
[05:36:38] decline of the u.s. dollar and potential risking of the u.s. dollar is a reserve currency it's
[05:36:43] something we have to think more about now but here's what let me do understatement of the
[05:36:47] morning by the way but yes drill down a little bit on a few things you've said so you've argued
[05:36:52] both from a most of your argument against the dsa thus far i think you could characterize as an
[05:36:57] electability argument you know no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
[05:37:00] it's bad policy okay so let i don't i don't think having unlimited immigration is sustainable i don't
[05:37:08] think getting rid of the criminal justice system is a smart way to govern. It's not just the
[05:37:14] he's just repeating what is this the establishment when Republicans win the establishment when the
[05:37:18] left wins. Yeah, it's time for a daring maneuvered Democrats.
[05:37:29] Carvel Declarecy can't be the same party as my body back in his calls for formal schism.
[05:37:33] Yeah, James Carvel, when the Republicans won, turned around, turned around and wrote this
[05:37:42] article in February 25th, 25, 2025, where he said, show your belly famously.
[05:37:50] This was his show your Democrats, show your belly, punish the population, punish the voters,
[05:37:56] make them, make them remember why they vote for you.
[05:37:59] That's what his argument was, which was a disastrous policy, but one that we took advantage
[05:38:03] of, let's be real.
[05:38:08] Okay?
[05:38:11] Once, that show your belly mentality caused so much frustration amongst the base that
[05:38:22] they started voting for real fighters, which happened to be Democratic socialists.
[05:38:25] He's now turning around and saying, we got to do something about it.
[05:38:28] We got to destroy the Democrats to our left. We got to destroy them.
[05:38:35] Well, to that I say thank you. Thank you, James Carville. Yeah, the daring maneuver
[05:38:41] was to play dead and surrender to Trump. I know Carville's play dead, New York Times
[05:38:46] column did some harm to his anti-left faction. I've heard so many voters and polls cited
[05:38:50] as the parties that were saying them should play dead instead of fighting. This isn't
[05:38:54] a crazy interpretation of the column. Carville's advice for the Dems was to retreat and to
[05:38:57] not respond to every Trump attack. For a while as popularity fell the left didn't did respond.
[05:39:03] The left didn't respond to every attack. There was no safe DEI rally, but it was out there
[05:39:07] doing stuff.
[05:39:09] Yeah, he's mad. We're using do nothing Democrats and he told them to fucking priceless. Yeah.
[05:39:21] is awesome. James Carville gave us a gift. He told the Democrats to not do anything.
[05:39:29] Now probably Democrats weren't going to do anything anyway, but I'll give that credit
[05:39:33] to James Carville.
[05:39:34] So here's a question I have for you. So back in 2018, you worked together with Pramila
[05:39:41] Jayapal on a bill to abolish ICE, which is a key demand.
[05:39:46] Yeah, I worked with her and here's what the bill did, okay?
[05:39:50] Well, here's, we have an article here from the Seattle Times, your local paper, US Reps
[05:39:56] from Illinois, Jai Apollo and Adam Smith aim to abolish ICE, restructure immigration
[05:40:00] enforcement.
[05:40:01] Exactly.
[05:40:02] You were one of the Democrats actually who was in office when you voted for the A&M.
[05:40:05] Can I tell you what this actually does?
[05:40:06] So we can have an inter-telecom conversation.
[05:40:07] Sure, of course, yeah.
[05:40:08] Well, number one, do you still support this?
[05:40:12] Let me tell you what it does.
[05:40:13] Okay, but you still support it.
[05:40:15] That doesn't help anything.
[05:40:16] What is this? Can I cannot? Yeah, of course. I first used that.
[05:40:18] Yeah, here's the thing about the two-party system.
[05:40:19] A strategist on the Republican side that was so bad they wouldn't be fired in the Democratic party.
[05:40:23] They get promoted, failures rewarded. Yes. Yes. Democrats always reward failures
[05:40:30] because their role isn't to actually win shit. Their role is to just lose gracefully and collect checks.
[05:40:36] Republicans actually have a horrifying, unbelievably toxic agenda, but they fight like hell to
[05:40:48] fucking implement it.
[05:40:49] What's the point of you gonna explain more in detail what it is?
[05:40:57] You need to slam in the table.
[05:40:58] Jesus Christ, Adam Smith.
[05:41:00] Sure, Wealth of Nations is a good book, but Jesus Christ, dude.
[05:41:04] some decency, sir. Oh, look at me fucking invisible hand like, all right, dude, calm down. Okay.
[05:41:13] We get it. We get it. You were impactful hundreds of years ago. Okay, calm down.
[05:41:22] How you what it is. Okay. Okay. Yes. When we created the Department of Homeland Security,
[05:41:29] We took immigration enforcement away from the Justice Department and we put it into DHS
[05:41:35] and created ICE.
[05:41:37] What this does is it puts immigration enforcement back at the Justice Department.
[05:41:42] And gets rid of ICE.
[05:41:44] Right.
[05:41:45] Well, it gets rid of...
[05:41:46] Yes.
[05:41:47] No, but...
[05:41:48] That's my position too.
[05:41:49] But here's...
[05:41:50] We're on the same page here.
[05:41:51] Yes.
[05:41:52] But it doesn't get rid of immigration enforcement.
[05:41:54] Okay.
[05:41:55] So...
[05:41:56] Okay.
[05:41:57] So, hold on.
[05:41:58] And again, tell me which candidates, specifically, not a policy paper that they're theoretically
[05:42:05] says which candidates have said we should get rid of all immigration.
[05:42:09] I forget the name, the woman who beat Andrew Espelot.
[05:42:12] Absolutely.
[05:42:13] Dari Lee is a Chevalier.
[05:42:14] Yeah.
[05:42:15] So you have one candidate.
[05:42:16] Right.
[05:42:17] Who said that?
[05:42:18] Do you think that her views should be associated with everyone under the DSA label or do you
[05:42:23] think that...
[05:42:24] I have had many, many conversations with many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many,
[05:42:27] immigration advocates. And I always ask them, and look, I'm in favor of a robust immigration
[05:42:32] system. I think what immigration enforcement is doing right now is an absolute crime,
[05:42:36] okay? And it should be limited. I think we should go back to the justice department.
[05:42:40] That's what I said.
[05:42:41] And you still support the bill.
[05:42:42] Oh, absolutely.
[05:42:43] Absolutely.
[05:42:44] Absolutely.
[05:42:45] You support abolishing ICE.
[05:42:46] Well, abolishing ICE is just a rhetorical-
[05:42:47] Yes, it's-
[05:42:48] But it means-
[05:42:49] But it means-
[05:42:50] No, no, no, no. But the problem is it means different things to different people, okay?
[05:42:54] If you're talking about, no, let's go back to a Justice Department enforcement mechanism.
[05:42:58] That's fine.
[05:42:59] But there are a lot more people who support eliminating enforcement.
[05:43:03] Let me tell you the question I always ask and the answer I always get from dozens of
[05:43:10] different immigration advocacy groups.
[05:43:12] I said, look, in order for this work, you have-
[05:43:14] I'm sorry, if you're a fucking Democrat, if you have the D next to your name and you're
[05:43:18] repeating Fox News talking points, you're not a Democrat.
[05:43:22] Okay?
[05:43:23] of the opposition, you're a part of the fucking fascist party. I'm sorry. It don't matter that
[05:43:28] you got a D next to your name. This is unbelievably self-defeating. Okay? When we criticize the
[05:43:35] moderates, we criticize them for their closeness to the Republicans. Okay? Because we want the
[05:43:40] moderates to no longer be close to the Republicans in their ideology, in their advocacy, in their
[05:43:46] legislative agenda that they follow on. Okay? When moderates do this to their left flank,
[05:43:52] They are repeating how close they are to the right-wingers. Okay? He's not even a fucking Pino. He's not. He's not even a progressive.
[05:44:04] He's a Dino. Democrat in name only. This is what I mean when I say no more to the fascist collaborators. Okay? That's it.
[05:44:15] That's it. It's fucking insane to me.
[05:44:22] We say Pino no Pino more. I can't get enough. I love same Pino
[05:44:30] Yeah, his district is D plus 22 we have to have someone in our fucking audience like a primary scap for the love of God
[05:44:35] Do you say we'll raise you 100,000 dollars if you promise fucking loser? Oh
[05:44:38] Don't get me started now. You're gonna get all the so what fans in the chat after the freak out
[05:44:43] I'll me and say there is someone primarying him and who wouldn't you let it there you go and
[05:44:49] And they literally never answered that.
[05:44:52] Are they in Congress?
[05:44:53] I mean, that's advocacy groups.
[05:44:54] And here's my other question for you, is, you know, do you want to take the most extreme
[05:45:01] positions that you can find in the DSA platform or that one panel?
[05:45:06] Let me finish my question, please.
[05:45:08] That one candidate, Daria Lisa Chevalier, who I agree has positions that I think can
[05:45:12] legitimately be characterized as radical, right?
[05:45:15] You want to take those positions.
[05:45:16] I love it.
[05:45:17] I love it.
[05:45:18] But it's a good thing, it's a good thing, it's a good thing to have some radical positions.
[05:45:24] Entire group of candidates with them.
[05:45:26] Well, let me ask you this.
[05:45:27] So aren't you, hold on, aren't you effectively doing the work of the Republicans?
[05:45:31] Yes!
[05:45:32] Yes!
[05:45:33] Thank you, Crystal!
[05:45:34] Thank you!
[05:45:35] Crystal Ball, more like Crystal Ball, knower, okay?
[05:45:41] Finally, that's always the answer.
[05:45:44] They're all so crazy.
[05:45:46] I'm not saying they're also crazy, they don't want any borders, etc.
[05:45:49] Let me consolidate for you, do you think-
[05:45:51] She's not against immigration enforcement, she's against using deportation instead of criminal justice, yes.
[05:45:55] Alright, you've done your thing, let me do my thing.
[05:45:57] They could easily characterize your abolished eye position as just as crazy and radical as Daria Lisa.
[05:46:02] But if my-
[05:46:03] Yes!
[05:46:04] Oh my god!
[05:46:05] Oh my god!
[05:46:08] It's true.
[05:46:09] My-
[05:46:10] I can't because the Justice Department's going in force, let me ask you this.
[05:46:13] Mm-hmm.
[05:46:14] Joe Biden, his policy, okay, so not just one person in the platform, whatever.
[05:46:20] Do you think his policy was two lax in terms of border security?
[05:46:24] I don't, but I acknowledge that politically that helped fuel the rise of the return of
[05:46:31] Donald Trump.
[05:46:32] So let me say to you though, but hold on a second.
[05:46:36] Which wing of the Democratic Party does Joe Biden come from?
[05:46:39] He doesn't come from the DSA left, does he?
[05:46:42] He comes from the establishment.
[05:46:44] And so, to go back to one of the original-
[05:46:47] Wherever he comes from, how did he go?
[05:46:49] Well, he funded the genocide.
[05:46:50] Wait, did he govern as a woke?
[05:46:51] Is that the argument?
[05:46:54] Did Joe Biden govern as a woke, dude?
[05:46:58] Are these guys sincerely saying Joe Biden govern as a woke?
[05:47:00] Joe Biden, Joe Biden, Joe Biden won as a woke.
[05:47:05] He won as a woke.
[05:47:06] He had a 100-day amnesty plan.
[05:47:12] And then he threw it away.
[05:47:15] And then he thought, let's not fix any of these problems at the border.
[05:47:19] Let's not speed up the process of getting these people the proper paperwork, proper
[05:47:27] clearance to be able to work on US soil.
[05:47:30] Hopefully, it'll just go away.
[05:47:32] People will just forget about it.
[05:47:34] He was paralyzed because he was terrified of the reactionary forces that were saying, oh,
[05:47:40] He's just opened up the floodgates of migration, and he was also terrified of his left flank
[05:47:46] as well because he had promised that he was going to govern like a woke.
[05:47:51] And he didn't do anything.
[05:47:54] He chose the worst of both worlds.
[05:47:59] Joe Gundam.
[05:48:00] So he's covering a lot of right wing ways, but to go back to your original point about
[05:48:05] electability, I think it's very hard.
[05:48:07] I never made a point about electability.
[05:48:08] You did.
[05:48:09] I thought that these positions, if you listen to your original answer, you said you thought
[05:48:12] these positions, the DSA were part of what brought Donald Trump to effect.
[05:48:15] Oh, yeah, fair enough, fair enough, yes.
[05:48:16] But there's also policy concerns, but it's-
[05:48:18] Okay, but on the electability point, how can you argue that your camp within the Democratic
[05:48:24] Party has a lot of credence when it comes to electability when-
[05:48:28] I argued the exact opposite.
[05:48:29] I argued the exact opposite.
[05:48:30] I'm with you.
[05:48:31] 100%.
[05:48:32] When Hillary Clinton loses to Trump, Biden wins by adopting some left-wing views, then
[05:48:37] loses to Trump.
[05:48:38] It was the establishment that props him up, that forced war in front of a primary.
[05:48:43] So how could it be the fall of the left that we're losing?
[05:48:46] There's three things.
[05:48:47] Okay.
[05:48:48] I always say that the fall of the Democratic Party is a tragedy in three acts.
[05:48:53] Number one, we didn't do enough on the economic issues.
[05:48:56] And I think that Obama and Clinton get way too much of the blame for that.
[05:49:01] I think they really tried to get after broader economic issues, certainly the Affordable
[05:49:05] Care Act, a whole lot of other provisions that were put in there, but we didn't do enough
[05:49:09] on economic inequality. Number two, the left came along and took some positions that we
[05:49:14] could do. I'm not blaming one group. Everyone's like, well, you're blaming us. What about
[05:49:18] them? It's like, there can be collective responsibility. Okay, it's not an either or choice. Yes, we
[05:49:24] didn't do enough on economics. And then some of the positions of the left, and there were
[05:49:28] a lot of people running around. When people say abolish ICE, do they mean abolish enforcement
[05:49:33] or do they mean change enforcement? Okay. And that's where you get into that difficult
[05:49:37] issue. We've had criminal justice problems, you know, the defund the police movement did
[05:49:41] not help us in any way. And it was a thing. And I'm told, oh, no, we never did that. Okay.
[05:49:47] And then three, Joe Biden. Yeah. Those three things are what led to us. And you, and every
[05:49:52] time I want to bring them all in, but people say, well, if you blame the left, you're just
[05:49:55] being a Republican. Did the left have power in this country? No, never had. Last time
[05:50:02] the left had power in this country, they forced the most historically popular Democrat to
[05:50:09] do the most historically popular piece of legislation the New Deal. Okay. And ever since
[05:50:16] then it's been over, it's been downhill from that point onward. His name was FDR. Okay.
[05:50:32] Well, can't we learn as we go?
[05:50:37] Well, my problem is not with your-
[05:50:39] It happened because he didn't do immigration reform, it also was dysfunctionally caused
[05:50:42] a refugee wave by sanctioning Cuba and Venezuela to hell.
[05:50:45] There was also a massive wave that was held back by the COVID shutdown.
[05:50:48] He's just a dopey idiot.
[05:50:50] What people object to is disorder and overwhelming services, yes.
[05:50:54] He also should have, and I stand by this, he should have prosecuted Greg Abbott and
[05:50:59] Rhonda says you to throw them in jail for human trafficking, which he had sufficient
[05:51:04] evidence of, uh, because when Rhonda Santas and, and Governor Greg Abbott, Governor of
[05:51:10] Texas, Greg Abbott, Governor of Florida, Rhonda Santas specifically started drop shipping
[05:51:17] refugees into Northern States to gum up the works when they had their, they already had
[05:51:25] their fucking court cases in Texas, Joe Biden should have one immediately deployed funds
[05:51:31] to these states to ensure that the people were properly taken care of.
[05:51:39] Okay.
[05:51:40] And two, he should have prosecuted Greg Abbott and DeSantis for human trafficking.
[05:51:44] That's precisely what they did.
[05:51:50] I have my own critiques of the left, right?
[05:51:59] I think that not to, I actually think the identity politics thing came out of the Hillary
[05:52:04] Clinton campaign and was a way for the establishment to beat back the rise of the Bernie Sanders
[05:52:08] left.
[05:52:09] No doubt the left embraced it.
[05:52:11] I have been a critic of quote unquote, woke, although I hate the word at this point, not
[05:52:15] politics.
[05:52:16] That's my, you know, my position.
[05:52:17] I'm on class first leftist.
[05:52:19] So I have my own critiques here.
[05:52:20] I'm not saying you can't.
[05:52:22] I'm saying when you caricature an entire wing and party at this point.
[05:52:28] Aren't you caricature the entire wing of the centrist and saying that we're like, I'm
[05:52:32] not caricature.
[05:52:33] I'm not trying to say you have the same views as John Fetterman.
[05:52:35] I don't think that you do, or Josh Gottheimer for that matter.
[05:52:38] And I'm not saying they all have the same views.
[05:52:40] You are trying to take the views of, let's say, Dari, and the DSA platform and saying
[05:52:44] this is what the entire, you know, the state college and Sanford.
[05:52:47] I'm not.
[05:52:48] I'm just saying it's an issue and it's a challenge.
[05:52:49] Let me get you to, so I think the most prominent example of socialist governance in the U.S.
[05:52:55] right now is Sorin Mamdani in New York City.
[05:52:59] He got asked a question that's very relevant to this conversation about, you know, what
[05:53:02] about people who are concerned about social-
[05:53:04] What the fuck is Larparabi?
[05:53:06] Don't get into it. It's Minecraft role play. A person that larpses you. Okay, fine.
[05:53:32] socialism. Let me get you to respond to what he had to say this is E2.
[05:53:36] For all of the fear-mongering around democratic socialism, the best response is to show what
[05:53:41] it actually means. And what we've shown over the last six months is exactly that. We've
[05:53:47] shown the city with a democratic socialist vision is one that paves more than 170,000
[05:53:54] potholes, 50,000 more than the prior administration by this point. It's just so goddamn good.
[05:53:59] crazy. The city that has delivered the lowest recorded number of shootings and shooting victims
[05:54:04] and murders in New York City's history. It is a city that is on a pathway to universal child
[05:54:10] care, saving thousands of parents more than $20,000 a year. And it's a city that is doing all of
[05:54:16] these things while fighting for the people who are often left behind. Workers who we've secured
[05:54:21] more than $10 million for tenants, more than $64 million. These are all indicators of what is
[05:54:28] is so scary to a right wing that has built its entire power
[05:54:33] and framework on the idea of debating
[05:54:35] who should be left behind.
[05:54:37] So is Zoran's version of socialism a version
[05:54:41] that you could get on board since he's really focused
[05:54:43] on the affordability pieces that you have?
[05:54:45] I'm encouraged by what he's doing.
[05:54:47] And I think that form of trying to get things done,
[05:54:51] that's the other problem, is so much of the left.
[05:54:53] And certainly we experienced this in Seattle,
[05:54:57] became an academic exercise.
[05:54:59] They were spending all day long talking about
[05:55:01] the history of racism, as opposed to going out
[05:55:05] in the community and saying,
[05:55:06] these are people who have been discriminated against.
[05:55:08] Let's get them access to capital
[05:55:10] so they can start businesses.
[05:55:11] Let's get them access to capital so they can get homes.
[05:55:14] Let's do a job, let's do workforce development
[05:55:18] so they can get jobs.
[05:55:19] It became an academic exercise about the history of the US
[05:55:23] about, you know, are we, you know, just an in irreversibly bigoted racist? That's all
[05:55:30] interesting. What are we doing to govern effectively? And actually everything that Mondani said
[05:55:36] right there, I'm encouraged if you govern and focus.
[05:55:39] Okay, Bosch Garcincara. My man's about to come out and be like, I'm a Bosch Gar style
[05:55:46] DSA. Actually, you know, I like to talk about how America had a lot of racist beginnings,
[05:55:52] But also, it overcame racism. It's a very diverse country. You know, we got to talk
[05:55:56] about the positives here.
[05:56:00] So, getting things done, so-called sewer socialism from back in the day.
[05:56:06] Look at this fucking guy! Dude, come on! How can you not... Dude, dude, dude, how can you
[05:56:13] not look at where the conversation is headed and not feel at least a sense of confidence
[05:56:20] that we are having a tremendous impact.
[05:56:25] You got
[05:56:28] Godfather of capitalism out of Smith.
[05:56:32] Out here talking about sewer socialism, man.
[05:56:35] You know, when you I mean, the fact that he knows what that
[05:56:38] is is huge, like the fact that he's pretending.
[05:56:42] To be in favor of at least socialist governance is, is
[05:56:48] I mean, this is unthinkable.
[05:56:54] Had mayors who were socialists, because I'm going to go out and work.
[05:56:56] Yeah, this fucking sell out as soon as Dick Rodgers was talking about super socialism is
[05:56:59] like, dude, 2016, can you imagine, I mean, come on.
[05:57:04] That's great.
[05:57:05] As an academic exercise, will you want to explain to me the history of oppression?
[05:57:09] When you say things to me like, well, that person can make that argument because of the
[05:57:12] power dynamic.
[05:57:14] And we operate in this weird intellectual world that's got nothing to do with practical
[05:57:19] problem solving and logic.
[05:57:21] Okay, that's where I have a problem.
[05:57:24] You know, Michelle Wu up in Boston also on the left governing really well.
[05:57:30] There are other folks who haven't governed so well because they got trapped in this sort
[05:57:34] of ideological thing where the whole focus was on oppressed and oppression as opposed
[05:57:39] to actually governing well.
[05:57:41] so yes i am encouraged by what i've seen in the last one we have six seven
[05:57:45] months and mondanese term
[05:57:47] you know i
[05:57:49] i'm a working class blue collar kid i'm in favor of economic populism
[05:57:53] in a socialism can work on that level now i think you also have to recognize
[05:57:57] that private industry has to be part of it
[05:57:59] okay we have to have businesses that grow but yeah
[05:58:02] busy i had someone was up in new york month or so ago and someone said you
[05:58:06] know promise we took the guard rails off capitalism
[05:58:09] You know, the course of last 50 years, we just got to get, dude,
[05:58:14] dude, I was just thinking that, you know, I was just thinking myself.
[05:58:17] I was like, the problem is corporate capitalism.
[05:58:20] The problem is corporatism.
[05:58:21] That's what it is.
[05:58:23] The problem is we took the guardrails off capitalism.
[05:58:26] Oh shit, dude.
[05:58:28] Thanks man.
[05:58:28] We got to reform it.
[05:58:29] We got to reform it.
[05:58:30] You're right.
[05:58:32] More ethical capitalism.
[05:58:33] You know, you see, real capitalism hasn't been tried.
[05:58:42] We did.
[05:58:43] We took the guardrails off capitalism.
[05:58:45] So let's put those guardrails back on.
[05:58:47] And if you want to call it socialism, whatever you want to call it, I don't care.
[05:58:50] So let's govern more effectively.
[05:58:52] So let me ask you then.
[05:58:54] Josh Gottheimer said, if you're a socialist, you're not a Democrat.
[05:58:56] Sounds like you don't agree with that.
[05:58:58] No.
[05:58:59] I mean, but again, the problem with this is it's a whole abolish-ice thing.
[05:59:02] throw a term out that means 15 different things, the 15 different people and then you're like,
[05:59:06] do you support this? It's like, well, which one of the...
[05:59:12] Doug, you're the abolish ice guy. What do you mean? You're the guy. You said it too, man.
[05:59:24] 15 versions. Are you talking? I'm not asking you to support it, but he and others have said,
[05:59:29] basically we don't want these people in the party. We don't want to share the
[05:59:33] tent with them. It doesn't sound like you're in that place. I am not. Now I
[05:59:37] think we ought to be able to have a conversation about the issues. I was
[05:59:40] sick to death and you did it to me again when I was trying to say, hey look on
[05:59:43] immigration, you know, we need to show that we are in favor of enforcement. Well
[05:59:47] you're just giving me republican talking points. I didn't say that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[05:59:54] I said why can't we have a conversation about it? What I said is that when you take the most
[06:00:00] radical position of one person or from a policy platform and you paint with a broad brush,
[06:00:05] you're handing Republicans a talking ball. This is what these people are. And what I'm saying is
[06:00:12] that you could easily be put into that camp, given some of your positions that you continue to hold,
[06:00:16] for example, whether you want to call it dismantling ICE or reorganizing ICE under different
[06:00:21] agents here, whatever you want to call it.
[06:00:23] It's not actually a joke.
[06:00:25] It's how are you going to enforce it?
[06:00:27] What sort of enforcement are you going to do?
[06:00:28] And it's going back to the Justice Department makes sense to me.
[06:00:31] And ICE would no longer exist, but you'd still have immigration enforcement.
[06:00:35] But this is the biggest...
[06:00:36] Could you actually...
[06:00:37] I'm curious your view, because the counter to that would be, well, if you're just going
[06:00:41] to do enforcement, then why not just keep ICE and reform ICE?
[06:00:44] There's a, you know, some group of people would say, oh, it's too radical to get rid
[06:00:48] of ICE.
[06:00:49] We need to just reform it, vet better, et cetera.
[06:00:53] Why do you think that it needs to be taken apart?
[06:00:55] Because obviously I agree with you.
[06:00:56] Well, what Trump has done with it, I think just puts it in a category.
[06:01:00] And I don't know, I mean, theoretically within the Department of Homeland Security, I suppose
[06:01:04] you could have immigration enforcement that made sense.
[06:01:07] But I think at this point, we need a clean break.
[06:01:09] And look, the biggest thing that I want in all of this is the ability to have a conversation,
[06:01:13] all right?
[06:01:14] where this is my biggest problem with the left. I have been unable to hold a town hall
[06:01:18] meeting for a year because-
[06:01:20] Oh, oh, why? Because people keep yelling at you about your fucking inconsistent Israel
[06:01:25] positions. Yeah. Yeah, it's the left's fault that your constituents demand answers to your
[06:01:32] wishy-washy perspective on an issue that is, you know, fairly fucking black and white is
[06:01:38] genocide.
[06:01:39] Bunch of leftists show up and scream at me and don't let it. Oh, dude, that sucks, man.
[06:01:49] How about you build some kind of backbone and stand on your principles? If your principles are
[06:01:55] pro-genocide, then you're fucking pro-genocide, you know? Perhaps the problem, and this is
[06:02:02] the endless Democrat problem is that the voters are far more woke than you are.
[06:02:15] And they vote for you either reluctantly or because you duped them into believing that you
[06:02:21] cared about those values. And perhaps now, when there are real alternatives that fit that standard
[06:02:31] far better. You guys are freaking the fuck out because it makes you look like a fraud.
[06:02:41] This is the issue for a lot of Democrats. They keep complaining about the voters,
[06:02:46] not voting for them and voting for someone else. That's all this is about. Like every day they're
[06:02:51] like, oh, well, we have to spend a lot of money on our fucking primaries. And it's like, well,
[06:02:55] you don't have to do that. You don't have to do that at all. You could just govern effectively.
[06:03:00] You can actually govern on the values that you claimed you would fight for, and no one
[06:03:08] would have this issue.
[06:03:09] Art, is there a left position against AOC?
[06:03:13] Is AOC getting outflanked by her left in her district?
[06:03:19] Is Bernie Sanders, he's 850 years old, is Bernie Sanders getting primaried successfully?
[06:03:28] where she did to leave getting primaried is Ihan Omar getting primaried.
[06:03:36] Perhaps there's a reason.
[06:03:40] Just be a fucking public servant and do the bidding of the masses, the people that fucking
[06:03:46] voted for you.
[06:03:48] And then you won't have to demand millions of dollars from the Democratic Party's coffers
[06:03:53] to protect your, your cushy cynic here.
[06:04:01] That's what's so funny about this whole like internal, uh,
[06:04:04] Fisher and the Democratic party, like, oh, these left-wing candidates,
[06:04:07] these insurgencies, what are we going to do? They're fucking coming after us.
[06:04:12] Oh, we got to spend a lot of money that we would normally spend in the
[06:04:14] general. We're wasting money. It's like, you don't have to do that.
[06:04:18] Get your fucking 874 year old.
[06:04:23] ass to fundraise and to go out and do fucking town halls then.
[06:04:32] Why don't you do that?
[06:04:35] Why don't you build your own fucking movement?
[06:04:40] Why do you have to sit there and demand that Hakim Jeffries bail your ass out?
[06:04:53] the architect. Oh, no, Zoran is coming out with the baby.
[06:04:58] Of a horrific genocide against the Palestinian people.
[06:05:01] He is responsible for the killing of more than 73,000 people for the maiming
[06:05:06] of tens of thousands of children, as those who survive undergo amputation
[06:05:11] without anesthesia for the targeting of neonatal hospitals and maternity care
[06:05:16] centers, denying newborns even the chance to live for the countless people he
[06:05:20] starved as he blocked food and humanitarian aid from reaching them.
[06:05:23] For the gunning down of hundreds of aid workers and journalists.
[06:05:27] And just last month, the UN confirmed that Palestinian children continue to be deliberately
[06:05:32] targeted and killed by Israeli armed forces, more than eight months after the so-called
[06:05:37] ceasefire.
[06:05:38] The list goes on and on, all as we, as Americans, pay for the bombs that do the killing.
[06:05:44] There is a reason the International Criminal Court issued a warrant for his arrest.
[06:05:49] As human beings, we have spent generations building a shared understanding that there
[06:05:53] are crimes so grave they offend all of humanity.
[06:05:57] Anyone with their eyes, with their heart, with their conscience should recognize the
[06:06:02] devastation he has wrought and understand that he belongs before a court of law.
[06:06:08] As I've said, I agree with the ICC that Benjamin Netanyahu should be arrested and tried for
[06:06:13] his crimes, as I do for anyone else charged by the ICC.
[06:06:18] My administration has refued every avenue available, under applicable law, to determine
[06:06:23] whether-
[06:06:24] Put a fucking brick in his car, bro!
[06:06:27] Put a brick in his car!
[06:06:31] Say he's got a gun on him!
[06:06:32] I know his ass got security!
[06:06:34] They got a gun on him!
[06:06:35] That's what the NYPD does!
[06:06:37] They do it best!
[06:06:39] They do it better than others!
[06:06:41] New York City could execute the international criminal-
[06:06:44] Stop and frisk him!
[06:06:45] Stop and frisk him!
[06:06:47] arrest warrant if Benjamin Netanyahu came here. It is clear that we do not have the
[06:06:51] independent legal authority to enforce this warrant. The federal government, however,
[06:06:56] does, and I call on them to join the ICC and execute this warrant. And I want to be equally
[06:07:01] clear, Benjamin Netanyahu is not welcome in New York City, nor is any other war criminal at large.
[06:07:09] Sorry.
[06:07:10] That's just such a funny take. War criminals, you're not welcome in New York City.
[06:07:19] Me, normally, ACAB, me, when Mamdani and Resnan Yahu, oh dude, yes. This is how I already
[06:07:35] felt like for a brief moment when the Tate brothers got arrested. Yeah, this is my favorite meme,
[06:07:40] AOP the badge, the people's police. Okay, that's right. Excuse me, the people's police. Okay,
[06:07:51] very different, very different. It's good. That's my mayor. I live in Eastern Europe.
[06:08:00] Yeah. Yeah. The thought, the thought of Benjamin Danielle getting prosecuted made me go law
[06:08:09] and order thin blue line, dude. He should order the NYPD to arrest big Yahoo. And when
[06:08:20] When they disobey, use it as a reason to reduce their funding.
[06:08:25] What?
[06:08:32] Do you want him to be assassinated? What are you talking about?
[06:08:37] That's funny. That was good, man. That's a good take. I like that. He should do that.
[06:08:43] He hasn't even fired Jessica Tish.
[06:08:45] Well, we cannot end the genocide on our own.
[06:08:50] We can decide whether our silence will become another weapon, and we can examine every tool
[06:08:55] we have to defend the humanity and dignity of all people.
[06:09:00] That is my commitment to you.
[06:09:04] This.
[06:09:09] Your communist jihadist dude, I hate.
[06:09:11] I hate Twitter auto play.
[06:09:13] self fucking annoying. Oh my God, Twitter autoplay is out of control. So the video is just saying
[06:09:20] I can't arrest Satan. Yes, that is what the video is saying, which is yes, that's the
[06:09:25] case.
[06:09:38] turn it off then, dog, you can turn it off in accessibility. Wait, really? Where is accessibility?
[06:09:45] Is it profile? Is it settings? Accessibility. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Settings,
[06:09:57] Additional resource accessibility display.
[06:10:01] Auto play.
[06:10:04] Never.
[06:10:05] Oh my God.
[06:10:06] Yes, bro.
[06:10:08] Yes.
[06:10:10] Yes.
[06:10:11] Thank you.
[06:10:11] Thank you, chatters.
[06:10:13] Holy fuck, you just saved my dang life.
[06:10:16] Oh my God, it was so goddamn annoying.
[06:10:19] You just changed my life, dude. You just changed my life. Oh my God. Yeah, I mean, look, it's
[06:10:34] just makes sense. Like he has no fucking jurisdiction to arrest the war criminal. It's a little
[06:10:40] bit of a aura loss. I'm not going to lie. It's a little bit of a aura loss. I think people
[06:10:51] are just going to like clown on him a little bit. But there are things he could do not
[06:11:04] Not against Benjamin and Yahoo, but I think it's an incorrect, I think it's an incorrect
[06:11:12] assessment.
[06:11:13] Wait, what?
[06:11:20] Clown on him for not breaking the law.
[06:11:22] No, dude.
[06:11:23] I know that he doesn't have the capability of arresting Benjamin and Yahoo.
[06:11:29] I know it was just not going to happen.
[06:11:40] Can you pressure tissue and force a warrant?
[06:11:42] No, we can't pressure tissue to do anything.
[06:11:46] No, it won't be liberal.
[06:11:47] I mean, some pro-Israel liberals will clown on him from this point on.
[06:11:54] And then also Republicans will clown on him too.
[06:11:56] They'll say, like, look at you, you're out of your fucking mind.
[06:11:59] But yeah, the Muhammad, the Muhammad El-Qurta take is the correct one, which he responded
[06:12:04] beforehand.
[06:12:05] He said, this is a non-Ahmadiyan, I'm not, he cannot rest in any of the United States,
[06:12:08] not a party of the Rome Statute, Foreign Affairs or a federal matter, etc.
[06:12:11] Moreover, as sitting Prime Minister in any house, strong claim to immunity, ration a
[06:12:15] person a before US courts, head of states, which we violate, but I had a state's get
[06:12:22] additional protections as like diplomats, especially if they're diplomats going to
[06:12:26] the UN.
[06:12:27] exemption on top of that, too. He has Maduro in prison. Yeah, if Zoran was the fucking
[06:12:33] president, he could do whatever the fuck he wants.
[06:12:37] Now, where's Maduro? I know, guys, I know we obviously don't fucking care about that.
[06:12:44] Okay. Anyway, if mom, daddy wants to take tangible action within the balance of his
[06:12:47] office, he easily urge Attorney General and other relevant authorities to go after New
[06:12:50] York registered tax exempt organization that funnel tens of millions of US dollars into
[06:12:54] Israeli settler expansion of violence every year, not niche irrelevant or is like Beytar
[06:12:58] that are discredited by even the ADL, but consequential organizations like Smoltridge
[06:13:01] founded Regavim or the Israel land fund. Why won't he do that?
[06:13:07] Now,
[06:13:13] Ali Abunimah defends Zoran says he's the mayor of New York City. Regulation of New
[06:13:17] York state charities and their use of tax exempt funds is within the purview of the state,
[06:13:22] not the city, specifically the Charities Bureau of the New York State Attorney General's Office.
[06:13:30] There is a thing that he can do as mayor of New York, and that is try to discontinue
[06:13:39] settler fares. There are a lot of settler fares that still take place outside of New York City.
[06:13:45] He could just come out and straight up be like, as the mayor, I find it unconscionable to do
[06:13:48] this illegal act. I am the law and order mayor, peep the fucking murder rates, that shits down.
[06:13:55] Turns out, as the law and order mayor, it's time to do law and order, no more land theft
[06:14:02] and land sales of stolen land inside of fucking Mardanistan. That's the thing that he could do
[06:14:09] as mayor. He could just even come out and say that he finds it unconscionable. He could even
[06:14:14] come out and say he finds all this unconscionable. So yeah, Ali Abunimah comes into defense Zoran,
[06:14:21] which is interesting. It's interesting to see these two clash on this issue.
[06:14:31] Can he pull NYPD detail off Netanyahu? I don't think so, but some other ways in which he could,
[06:14:39] some other ways in which he could be a nuisance. He could just like, you know, take it the car.
[06:14:45] I don't know. Guess some people to, you can gum up the works. You're the mayor. You don't have to
[06:14:51] like do road closures. You don't have to maybe be as as fast in your response when you send the NYPD
[06:14:59] to the inevitable hotel that Benjamin and Yau was staying at, which will receive a fuck ton
[06:15:04] of protesters outside of it. You don't have to do a cordon around the block.
[06:15:09] where Benjamin Nenyao is staying.
[06:15:14] You know?
[06:15:17] Professor Morandi is fixing the right a whole fucking novel?
[06:15:21] No, I think this squirrel will be understanding of this too.
[06:15:28] A lot of people don't know Nenyao is an arrest warrant out for him.
[06:15:30] Zoran is using his platform to teach people that fact.
[06:15:33] A lot of people are going to be like, really? He should be arrested.
[06:15:35] Yes. So the good part about it is that
[06:15:38] This is an unbelievably strong stance that the mayor of New York is taking and I really appreciate him for that
[06:15:47] Am I the only one who read monganis David is I'm single you upset about this in principle
[06:15:51] I would obviously like to see him arrested, but clearly I have no authority to do so
[06:15:55] That's obviously what he's saying in the inner New York Times interview. I
[06:16:00] Mean he should do it anyway let the federal government interview
[06:16:03] But this is clearly what he was saying that'd be crazy imagine
[06:16:05] I don't think he has that kind of motion with the NYPD dude.
[06:16:17] Can't the city pass a bill sanctioning any out like banning him from using the bathroom
[06:16:20] and finding any private business that hosts him?
[06:16:24] He could have said that if BB comes they'll make his life a living hell while being there,
[06:16:27] No, I don't think he can openly say that
[06:16:46] Hannity don't forget a new episode of my pockets will drop tomorrow morning if you just well known influencer among kids known as clavicular
[06:16:52] We talked about everything from looks maxing
[06:16:54] What's mogging? Meanwhile, he told us on he talked to him and then ran away from it. Yeah, that's kind of fucked up
[06:17:00] Bro, he had clavicular on
[06:17:02] What's up? Do I have to go to Israel to get your attention? Shawnee, baby?
[06:17:13] NYPD trains with IDF every police department does NYPD also has a station in in Israel
[06:17:21] They have a liaison office in Tel Aviv
[06:17:24] I remember there's an Israeli chatter in here who found out that he has a fucking liaison
[06:17:30] office with NYPD next door to his fucking house in Israel.
[06:17:39] From this stream.
[06:17:53] to get Hannity attention you need to go to Singapore true yep it's me ink for
[06:17:59] Sabah
[06:18:04] there you go
[06:18:06] Abitages team nezahe gele oğlum manyak mıs hapse mi gireyim zaten Amerika hapse
[06:18:10] atmak istiyor beni aman akın Türkiye'yi dersem Erdoğan da hapse atacak götüme
[06:18:15] girecek bir yerde gireceğim hapse yani ya Türkiye'de Amerika'da
[06:18:23] So, that's why I've always found MMA, salient, like a world of technology, is just, you know,
[06:18:32] all these guys will learn all this training and stuff for, you know.
[06:18:36] Then a guy shoots him in the head.
[06:18:38] You're right.
[06:18:39] It's not just for that.
[06:18:40] I mean, I found it as a smart workout where I'm learning a skill that may help me in
[06:18:47] a situation.
[06:18:48] Guaranteed?
[06:18:49] No.
[06:18:50] A bum deal.
[06:18:51] I'd probably put it this way.
[06:18:52] Close quarters.
[06:18:53] deal with a firearm close quarters than I would a knife, especially somebody that knows
[06:18:57] how to use a knife. In other words, somebody puts a gut on my face. I'll strip.
[06:19:01] Get the fuck out of here, dude. Shut the fuck up, Sean Hannity. No, he did not just say
[06:19:11] that, bro. He is, he's one of those guys. Of course he's one of those guys.
[06:19:23] Sean Segal Hannity.
[06:19:25] But break that finger, step back and I'm going to
[06:19:29] tap it, rack it like this and I'm going to,
[06:19:33] it's all have four over three against them or they put it at my forehead,
[06:19:36] oh my, okay you got me, you got me, boom, I'm going to like this,
[06:19:40] rip their hand down and their arm down and throw it into the chest,
[06:19:43] strip it, tap it, rack it and I go, you're laughing like,
[06:19:47] this is what I do, I train but you know I'm learning something as I do it but
[06:19:51] but it's also a passion, but there is pain associated with it.
[06:19:54] Yeah.
[06:19:55] And I've done it now for 15 straight years, which, you know,
[06:19:59] but it's really more also I want to stage.
[06:20:01] So that's why.
[06:20:05] Of course he's one of these guys, man.
[06:20:07] And he said, 25 years, I've been learning to dismantle a gun
[06:20:13] in a close quarters combat situation for 25 years.
[06:20:21] It's so fucking annoying that Sean Hannity ducks me at every step.
[06:20:30] Also, also, also, David Packman, we're going to watch this because Unfuck America Tour is
[06:20:40] now hyping up.
[06:20:41] Dude, I love that like all of these destiny affiliated organizations, they just almost
[06:20:47] exclusively work to do PR for this fucking weirdo. Okay, this weirdo and his cult. David
[06:20:55] Pacman has joined in on the call to action. And so did Parker get a job.
[06:21:02] You know, as you guys know, college Democrats invited me. And, and the Republicans are obviously
[06:21:09] freaking out. Some of these liberals are freaking out too. And I think the Sexpastiny, Epstiny
[06:21:19] community did a boss call to all the liberal commentary sphere to be like, why weren't
[06:21:26] you guys also shit on Hassan? Are you too scared or some shit like that? And it's really funny
[06:21:31] because the idea that I'm not eating it from both ends here is so funny. The notion that
[06:21:38] People are too afraid to stand up to Hasan is a hilarious take because I'm, you know,
[06:21:45] a priority target for the State Department. And also, prominent liberals yell at me all the fucking
[06:21:53] time. Okay, but anyway, but anyway, anyway, what is this? They literally admitted getting harassed
[06:22:05] by the D community, members of our chapter has been harassed under the mistaken assumption
[06:22:09] that we were supported or affiliated with Mr. Piper and his views that assumption is demonstrably
[06:22:12] false. And we, like our fellow students, should not be subject to harassment based on it. We hope
[06:22:17] the statement provides the clarity. Wait, what? So the fucking sex best community was coming after
[06:22:23] the Kansas young Democrats. Is that what it is? What the fuck? They were yelling at them. Are
[06:22:33] Are they going to like every young Democrat chapter to be like, disavow has sought?
[06:22:40] Okay, man.
[06:22:43] All right.
[06:22:44] Well, let's see.
[06:22:45] So David was one of the guys that bit.
[06:22:48] They were emailing all of them.
[06:22:51] They're actually going after other people too.
[06:22:53] It's not even just about you.
[06:22:54] It's outright dangerous at this point.
[06:22:55] You gotta do something.
[06:22:57] Yeah.
[06:22:59] Listen to the whole segment before you send me hate mail.
[06:23:01] You know, when it starts that way, it's going to be good.
[06:23:03] Listen, the Democratic Party is showing the early signs of the same disease that destroyed the Republican Party.
[06:23:10] I've got so many friends on the left texting me and saying,
[06:23:14] David, we're not going to allow the same thing to happen on the left that Trump did to MAGA.
[06:23:18] Sorry, that Trump and MAGA did to Republicans, are we?
[06:23:21] Republicans...
[06:23:23] What you mean, winning? Like, I'm sorry.
[06:23:26] They have an odious worldview on the right.
[06:23:31] the reactionaries do, right? They're horrible monsters. But the one thing you can't say
[06:23:38] is they're unsuccessful. Donald Trump literally owns the government, okay? Donald Trump owns the
[06:23:46] government. Donald Trump almost single-handedly rewrote American politics for the last decade.
[06:23:53] Every aspect of American politics has changed for the worst because of Donald Trump. So when you
[06:23:58] When you say, oh, we can't let these fucking leftists do the same, what are you saying?
[06:24:03] Do you disagree with the policies?
[06:24:04] Is that what you're talking about?
[06:24:09] He thinks getting everything they campaigned on in a 6-3 majority is bad because they actually
[06:24:14] got what they wanted.
[06:24:15] Perfect dem-influencer.
[06:24:16] Yeah, like, no, I wish, I wish the Democrats could fight like the Republicans do, but instead
[06:24:23] for odious, horrible, repulsive, toxic, and outright awful plans, I wish you'd ever have
[06:24:31] a fight like hell for good shit, Medicare for all, housing for all, federal jobs guarantee,
[06:24:41] and also cutting all aid and sanctioning Israel, holding Israel accountable, abolishing ICE,
[06:24:46] I wish oh no oh no we can't let the Democrats be too sweet we can't let the
[06:24:59] Democrats be too successful what will the Republicans do
[06:25:05] Republicans got real Chinese with it. Okay, I'll tell you why. What does the Communist
[06:25:19] Party of China do? Five year plans, okay? They write it out like Babe Ruth. They call
[06:25:27] their shot and they swing and they do not miss.
[06:25:32] did the same they said project 2025 here is all of the awful shit that we're gonna do we are going
[06:25:40] to not suffice this country and there ain't a dang thing you can do about it and then they followed
[06:25:47] through on it it's horrible it's awful it's unbelievably bad but it is successful for their
[06:25:58] agenda. So yeah, I wish the Democrats would have their own Project 2026, Project 2028,
[06:26:06] which featured socialism heavily in it. And then we had enough fighters that could get
[06:26:12] together and push for that. Okay? So no, when you say, oh, we can't let the fucking MAGA
[06:26:19] style situation take over the Democratic Party, what are you talking about? We believe in
[06:26:26] the opposite things that they believe. We believe in the opposite things that they believe.
[06:26:31] We want to advance the opposite things. But if you're going to talk about success, MAGA
[06:26:38] has been unbelievably successful. Let's continue.
[06:26:48] Back in 2010, their leaders laughed at the Tea Party. Conspiracy theorists, they're far-right
[06:26:53] internet trolls, they're not gonna do anything. And then the Tea Party took over local organizations,
[06:26:58] threatened primaries, built their own media universe, and eventually were part of a process
[06:27:02] that gave us Donald Trump.
[06:27:03] Yes, yes, that's insanely successful. Donald Trump has been unbelievably successful. What
[06:27:09] are you talking about? Like everything that you cover on your channel about every damn
[06:27:16] day, there is a new thing, okay? Every damn day, there is a new awful thing that this fucking
[06:27:23] psychopath does. That's success for him, okay? So you know he's successful. All the bad shit
[06:27:31] he's doing, that's success for the Trump movement, for Trump, for MAGA, okay? We hate it because
[06:27:39] we have a fucking conscious. They don't. But one thing you can't say is that they're unsuccessful.
[06:27:46] what the hell the left and Democrats can't make the same mistake there is a small group of far
[06:27:58] left extremists gaining influence inside youth groups and party organizations because they spend
[06:28:04] all day online organizing and enforcing ideological purity and attacking anyone who disagrees now
[06:28:10] let me be very liberal liberal liberal liberal liberal liberal liberal liberal
[06:28:16] happy fun la la la human smuggling fentanyl desk he's also not mentioned
[06:28:22] the fact that you're on the left wing lunacy thing I am not talking about
[06:28:26] people who want medicare for all and affordable housing I want all that stuff
[06:28:31] I'm with all that stuff I'm a social democrat in the style of northern Europe
[06:28:35] Of course, I want those things.
[06:28:37] These are folks who treat political warfare
[06:28:41] like a full-time job.
[06:28:42] And when they can't build,
[06:28:44] dude, you're literally a political commentator.
[06:28:46] What are you talking about?
[06:28:56] You're a political, that's your full time,
[06:28:58] that's literally your full-time job.
[06:29:00] Does David Pacman do something else other than this? This is his job, right?
[06:29:15] Yeah, he said the left is really bad because they're locking in, okay? The left is back
[06:29:27] is they locked in and they are actually, they have an agenda, they seek to accomplish that
[06:29:32] agenda and they're pushing for it. And now, perhaps most terrifyingly, they're winning.
[06:29:41] He has said that if you do political commentary, you'd be in finance. Okay, Central Committee,
[06:29:44] you know too much about David Pakman's background and I know this guy, I've been around him
[06:29:48] basically.
[06:29:49] Their own coalition, they attach themselves to popular causes. They take real concerns
[06:29:55] about health care housing police misconduct and use them to sell what
[06:29:59] is actually an authoritarian worldview
[06:30:02] there are things in dsa for example democratic socialist america
[06:30:06] that are good and i agree with
[06:30:08] but there's also some stuff in there
[06:30:09] that i think doesn't make any sense i saw their new platform
[06:30:12] promises a country where you have no debt
[06:30:15] uh... you pay no rent no mortgage
[06:30:17] you receive publicly funded housing publicly funded retirement
[06:30:25] Why won't anybody think about the landlords?
[06:30:27] Why won't anybody think about the big corporates
[06:30:29] that are buying out all the fucking readily available housing?
[06:30:31] Ha ha ha ha ha!
[06:30:38] Okay, okay, here's the thing, here's the thing.
[06:30:42] It's good to have ideals and a goal that you are setting out ahead of time.
[06:30:51] Okay?
[06:30:52] what feels impossible tomorrow could be probable. Okay? So here's the question. Why don't you
[06:31:04] like that final goal that we should move towards? Is the real question? Because like, you could
[06:31:12] just be like, how do we accomplish it? Fine, that's okay. That's a healthy and productive
[06:31:17] a conversation that we can have. But if you just cut it down to be like, dude, fucking
[06:31:24] what like public housing gross, then that just comes across like you are just an opposition
[06:31:32] to a thing that exists in those same Nordic-style social democracies that you just started off
[06:31:38] defending. But can you imagine being like, oh, public housing, absolutely not. Get the
[06:31:45] fuck out of here. It's like, I want social democracy. Okay. Well, they have public housing.
[06:31:52] So it turns out maybe you don't like some of the fucking social democratic policies.
[06:31:57] Like which type of social democracy are we talking about? Right? Because many of them
[06:32:04] have that. Many of them have this. We should have it too. And as far as debt, as far as
[06:32:15] like debt abolition, we have a real problem with debt. That's unironically a huge working-class
[06:32:22] issue. It's actually pretty reliable that DSA has identified that as a major problem
[06:32:30] that they are seeking to solve. Debt abolition was a pivotal plank of the Biden campaign.
[06:32:37] Student loan debt abolition, he said he was gonna do that, he ran on it, he tried to do it,
[06:32:42] he dropped it, okay? He should have been like Trump, successful. And he should have said,
[06:32:46] fuck it, YOLO, we're doing it. What are you going to do? I run the department of education,
[06:32:50] suck my dick, Supreme Court. Roll the tanks, bitch. You and what army? I'm doing it. Look,
[06:32:56] that's what Trump is doing after fucking time. So this is why I get very frustrated when I hear
[06:33:05] from people who are like, I'm a social Democrat. But I think the DSA platform is, is untenable.
[06:33:13] It's like, well, okay. So I guess you're not a social Democrat because the DSA platform,
[06:33:19] at least like a lot of the stuff that they're presenting here already exists in some way,
[06:33:23] shape, or form is social democracies, or we're advanced by ironically enough, socialists in
[06:33:29] the past. And, and therefore it's not really that big of an issue in other countries like debt is a,
[06:33:34] is a major one that obviously exists in other countries to a certain degree,
[06:33:39] but it's not to the same degree as it is in the United States of America, and that's a real problem.
[06:33:50] Democratic socialists of America, with like some exceptions thus far, have not run a single candidate
[06:33:57] that has run on anything but social democracy, because that is what is achievable in the short
[06:34:03] term. It's not like people are running around, like abolish the commodity form, seize the
[06:34:08] means of production. Like that's not how Zoran won the New York mayoral raise. He wasn't
[06:34:12] like, we're going to seize the means of production, baby.
[06:34:16] But you got to do that because then what does Zoran do? He established tenants unions.
[06:34:21] He does the landlord shaming incredible stuff. And the way that, the way that he, you know,
[06:34:28] people comfortable with that was by not lARPing like a fucking Maoist, ironically enough, which
[06:34:34] is something that I admire about the way he operates, which, you know, contrary to what the
[06:34:40] last couple of days, the last couple of days fucking arguments would show, I am not a Maoist,
[06:34:50] nor am I a Maoist LARPer in general. Wow, Hassanabe watching my favorite streamer David
[06:34:56] Pacman. Yeah, mine too. Food, education, energy, medicine, transportation. And it sounds incredible
[06:35:04] because it is incredible. How would they create it? Government ownership of the largest corporations
[06:35:08] and of entire industries. Again, literally exist in social democracies. Norway. Norway owns the
[06:35:18] entirety of the extraction industry. It is completely nationalized. Down to the motherfucking
[06:35:23] bone. It's not like Norway's Maoist.
[06:35:26] My man started off by saying, I love social democracy. I'm a social Democrat. And then
[06:35:34] literally looked at the DSA social democracy line and went agenda item by agenda item and
[06:35:41] said, I fucking hate all this shit.
[06:35:44] Hello. Yeah, Switzerland owns this entire electrical grid and production. Bro, we, the
[06:35:51] Tennessee Valley Authority. We have this in America. We have publicly funded public housing
[06:35:56] in America too. Like, we can expand on the existing social democratic policies that exist
[06:36:01] in the United States of America. That's what's so fucking crazy about this. You don't even
[06:36:06] need to go to Norway. But these guys love posting about Norway. It's literally this
[06:36:10] meme. It's this meme, yeah. It's the socialists who never works. Norway's socialists, they're
[06:36:14] doing great. They're not, by the way. Norway's not socialists. But whatever. They're not
[06:36:17] They're capitalist countries strong welfare policies then let's adopt those policies. No, that's socialism every single time
[06:36:26] Every single time
[06:36:41] Yet Trump did this yes Trump just nationalized us steel
[06:36:47] What the hell so rent control abolishing police and prisons and abolishing the Senate and replacing our
[06:36:54] political system
[06:36:56] Like the abolishing police
[06:36:59] I'm not in favor of police abolition, okay
[06:37:03] But I understand where these guys are coming from and it doesn't matter because I'm not crazy
[06:37:09] Okay, I don't spend a good deal of time being like I can't believe some of them said abolish police
[06:37:14] What the fuck like I'm not losing sleep over it. Okay?
[06:37:17] Why do you lose sleep over it?
[06:37:26] Some of these ideas are reasonable to a degree. For example, I support universal health care and I've talked about four or five ways that we could get to it.
[06:37:34] I want affordable housing and I've done a dozen interviews with housing experts on what wouldn't work to get us there.
[06:37:39] I support progressive taxation. We need to collect more taxes from the very rich.
[06:37:43] And would the Netanyahu be in the real make pretend president realizes just a city mayor?
[06:38:13] I did watch the video. It was a good video. Anyway, let's continue voting rights have been hurt in this country
[06:38:19] We need police reform. So you spelled is
[06:38:24] Name wrong Benjamin Netanyahu. Oh cuz I said Netanyahu. Oh
[06:38:29] Netanyahu Netanyahu. Thank you. That's fine. It's whatever. Yeah, I spelled it wrong fucking who cares
[06:38:35] there's elements of this that are great and any social Democrat like me will tell you we got to do that
[06:38:38] but you bundle it together and
[06:38:40] And this fantasy in which capitalism, private industry,
[06:38:44] and major parts of the government simply disappear,
[06:38:46] most Americans don't want that.
[06:38:48] Most Americans understand that there is no way
[06:38:51] that you could impose that
[06:38:53] without extraordinary authoritarianism.
[06:38:55] My one hesitation.
[06:38:59] Wait, what are we imposing with extraordinary?
[06:39:01] You gotta do that.
[06:39:02] But you bundle it together.
[06:39:03] And this fantasy in which capitalism, private industry,
[06:39:07] and major parts of the government simply disappear,
[06:39:10] I mean, you're just describing laws. You're describing, again, you're describing a policy
[06:39:22] agenda that you disagree with without actually explaining what you disagree with on the policy
[06:39:28] agenda. And you're just simply saying people oppose it and you want to be authoritarian.
[06:39:33] Yeah, okay. It's how is it any different than when fucking libertarian, lulbertarian say,
[06:39:39] all taxation is theft
[06:39:41] the authoritarian government is utilizing the monopoly of violence that it holds in order to force me to fucking steal my money my hard-earned money
[06:39:48] Like okay, that's authoritarianism technically. They're not wrong
[06:39:52] okay
[06:39:53] yes public ownership
[06:39:55] Of key sectors is authoritarianism, I guess for the fucking executives of said companies
[06:40:02] But guess what many other social democracies do this because it's good
[06:40:07] Okay? I'm sure there was a point in time when the motherfucking private profiteers of the
[06:40:16] fire departments, the private fire brigades, were really frustrated that the local governments
[06:40:22] came down on them and authoritarian style took over and said, no, we got to do this.
[06:40:27] It's got to be a public service. Sorry. They were like, no, no authoritarianism. It turns
[06:40:34] out sometimes it's good. Yeah, I know Nordic model wasn't conjured by liberals is 100%
[06:40:43] correct. I already made that point. But yes, Bashkar says it's here as well. Nordic model
[06:40:47] wasn't conjured by liberals. It was built by parties rooted in Marxist, Second International
[06:40:50] that through decades of class struggle built unions powerful enough to discipline capital
[06:40:54] and expanded state economic involvement, socialist governance within capitalism. Also, homogeneity
[06:41:00] explains little finland is bilingual nordics of their own national minorities
[06:41:03] none of that explains why they build social marks of other wealthy homogenous
[06:41:06] countries didn't difference was organized labor and socialist parties not
[06:41:10] demographic
[06:41:17] misspelling the sir misspelling his surname is anti-semitic okay shut the
[06:41:21] fuck up most americans don't want that
[06:41:23] most americans understand that there is no way that you could impose that without
[06:41:28] extraordinary authoritarianism. My one yeah, I hate the extraordinary authoritarianism of the
[06:41:33] fucking postal service in the fire department, even the fucking police department of public schools.
[06:41:37] I hate that. We need to stop with this authoritarianism. Dude, are you a libertarian? No. Are you an
[06:41:43] anarcho-capitalist? No. So obviously, there's a level of authoritarianism that you're actually
[06:41:47] comfortable with, right? And I thought you were far, far more open to the level of authoritarianism
[06:41:55] presented by the likes of FDR, or even presented in countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland,
[06:42:02] and many of these other places that social democrats love to point to and say we should
[06:42:07] do the same thing that they have over there. But now, when the, when DSA is putting out a
[06:42:13] platform that's identical to the things that already exist in these other social democracies
[06:42:17] to a certain degree, you're like, that's authoritarianism. So apparently, you're not
[06:42:20] in favor of that. But this is also ideologically inconsistent because there are certain things
[06:42:26] that I know he's defended. There are certain things that I know he's defended, whether it be
[06:42:31] Medicare for All or numerous other policies like that. That's authoritarianism. Medicare for All,
[06:42:39] universal health care is authoritarian by that exact same principle that you're mentioning.
[06:42:44] hesitation about confronting this now and why I went back and forth is the
[06:42:53] this was a question I asked David Pacman a very long time ago I said you
[06:42:57] understand inelastic demand you love you know econ 101 he said yes I said for
[06:43:03] that reason you're in favor of Medicare for all he said yes or universal
[06:43:07] healthcare he said yes inelastic demand so why don't you apply the same
[06:43:11] principle to housing. Housing is shelter. Shelter is a necessity for survival. There's
[06:43:15] an elastic demand for shelter in the same exact way that there's an elastic demand for
[06:43:19] healthcare. He had no answer for it. This is the whole reason behind why government-funded
[06:43:26] housing initiatives has to exist to normalize the market, for example. The market is completely
[06:43:31] out of control. It's not a secret that every other country that has some semblance of public
[06:43:38] housing as a way higher rate of ownership, home ownership, as opposed to the United
[06:43:44] States of America.
[06:43:45] In terms, publicly exposing the rot could make moderate voters think the entire Democratic
[06:43:51] Party has been infected.
[06:43:52] But I don't think silence is really going to hide it.
[06:43:55] I saw a crazy thing from the weekend where there was a college Democrats convention,
[06:44:00] which I was actually invited to participate in and I couldn't make it.
[06:44:04] The son piker was dressed like Mao and, uh, dude, this is Fox News, brother.
[06:44:11] What is happening?
[06:44:12] What is happening?
[06:44:13] This is tan suit, Fox News style.
[06:44:15] It's literally a Chinese suit, brother.
[06:44:18] Do you disagree with the things that I said in the College Democrats of America speech
[06:44:23] that I delivered?
[06:44:24] Did you watch the speech?
[06:44:25] Did you disagree with the things that I said in the speech?
[06:44:28] That is the question.
[06:44:29] Okay.
[06:44:30] hyper-focusing on the junction suit is unbelievably silly and you would make
[06:44:36] seventeen
[06:44:37] thousand fucking videos if the republicans were doing it to somebody else
[06:44:42] okay
[06:44:46] if the republicans are doing this to a centrist democrat you would make
[06:44:50] a million videos about it like this is ridiculous
[06:44:53] all focus on
[06:44:54] the uh... focus on what you guys are doing your killing people in the streets
[06:44:58] instead of fucking
[06:44:59] Talking about some centrist Democrat wearing a type of suit that you don't like. Yes, dude
[06:45:04] Yes, don't shall ping also wore it and liberals love him. So
[06:45:08] They should love this
[06:45:10] It's so funny liberals love don't show pain, but then I always talk about Taman Square
[06:45:15] Anyway, I guess they have nuance when it comes to
[06:45:19] Don't shall ping anyway. Let's continue. I guess destiny
[06:45:23] Tried to show up and he was banned from entering allegedly because the Mao dressed piker didn't want him there
[06:45:28] That's a crazy thing to do by the way. You know better David. That's really fucked up that you're out here straight up
[06:45:38] Oji made a video on the time suit on Louis upon my ritz but himself embroiled in a huge political controversy
[06:45:47] Republicans completely up in arms angry over the distrust called it this man has been around for a long damn time
[06:45:53] Look at this 2014 look at that that the president had the audacity to commit against them and what this was was
[06:46:01] President Obama
[06:46:03] wore a tan suit
[06:46:05] That's it. David. I'm leaving the country
[06:46:08] Uh, I'm I'm defecting to north korea
[06:46:11] Republican congressman Peter king went on an extended rant about president Obama's decisions. Well, if you were a thulb will they say your mbs? Yes
[06:46:19] Anyway, nasty thing for him to do is to make it seem to his own audience that the guy who
[06:46:28] spent the last fucking seven years stalking the living fuck out of me, who has actively
[06:46:34] said that I deserve death, that I have made statements that are worthy of killing, okay?
[06:46:43] of killing me, guy who has openly, openly demanded people in his community stalk me everywhere
[06:46:51] I go, guy who has said I should be bullied and humiliated and yelled at if I'm going
[06:46:57] out the protest.
[06:46:59] I'm sorry, David Pakman, you know that shit, okay?
[06:47:03] You know, you know he's been doing that.
[06:47:06] And if David doesn't know that, he should hear about it, okay?
[06:47:09] Because that's crazy.
[06:47:11] David Pakman, I don't think you are in favor of the targeted harassment that this fucking
[06:47:18] sex pest has conducted over the last seven years.
[06:47:23] Because if you were aware of it, then you're still making this video.
[06:47:26] That is the most disingenuous thing I've ever heard from you.
[06:47:29] It's worse than when you said, I don't know what IEPAC is, okay?
[06:47:35] I don't know what IEPAC is.
[06:47:36] What is that?
[06:47:37] literally film themselves with the with their intent to disrupt an event that
[06:47:43] they were not invited to they filmed the entire process there's videos of it
[06:47:47] everywhere okay that's crazy I don't think you want to be running around
[06:47:56] defending a guy who has an active court case distributing revenge porn okay yeah
[06:48:06] that guy, his guy Darius is starting to go to people's houses. Yeah, one of the guys,
[06:48:13] one of his fucking friends, unironically, is now talking about moving the Los Angeles
[06:48:17] to stalk me more efficiently. That guy who has actually received a restraining order
[06:48:23] from his ex. Come on, man. Come on, David. We've always had our disagreements, but I
[06:48:36] I've always been cordial because David's been cordial.
[06:48:40] This is definitely, I don't think David, I'm going to be charitable.
[06:48:44] I'm going to go ahead and say, I don't think David knows, uh, the extent of,
[06:48:49] of the madness presented by this cult.
[06:48:52] Okay.
[06:48:53] I'm going to be charitable and I'm going to say that because if he did,
[06:48:58] if he did, he probably would not be defending this bro.
[06:49:02] Come the fuck on.
[06:49:03] Okay.
[06:49:03] Guys just be fucking tactical. Oh my god, shut the fuck up
[06:49:08] Republicans are gonna put these clips everywhere like it people seem crazy when they see this stuff and they're really they did
[06:49:14] They did put the clips everywhere. We saw on Facebook people fucking seemingly loved how stupid it was
[06:49:20] They did this exact same thing the Fox News. Oh another Tansu controversy. So why don't you feel that way?
[06:49:29] Why don't you feel that way David?
[06:49:31] Why don't you feel that way, that the Republicans are manufacturing outrage again?
[06:49:39] Republicans manufacture outrage professionally.
[06:49:42] Perhaps it's because you also, not dissimilar to the Republicans, find my kind of politics
[06:49:48] to be repulsive, dangerous, bad.
[06:49:53] Perhaps there is a disagreement here that goes beyond reason from your perspective.
[06:49:57] I don't know what it's about.
[06:49:59] has a lot to do with foreign policy, because that was the one major avenue of disagreement
[06:50:04] between myself and David Pagma, whether it be Bolivia or numerous other instances where
[06:50:08] he took a State Department adjacent position where I did not.
[06:50:12] I'm going to take, abolish the police and abolish borders and abolish prisons and play
[06:50:17] them on a loop for six months.
[06:50:19] If I didn't say that, I didn't say abolish borders on that speech.
[06:50:24] I didn't say abolish prisons on that speech.
[06:50:26] I want to put motherfuckers in prison.
[06:50:30] Make no mistake, there's a lot of motherfuckers that need to go to prison, okay?
[06:50:34] Many of them ICE agents, actually, and people who are in this current government, they need
[06:50:40] to go to jail.
[06:50:41] So I'm not abolishing prisons at all, okay?
[06:50:45] I'm not in favor of that at all.
[06:50:46] I want to put motherfuckers in prison, the right kind of people in prison, okay?
[06:50:52] So make no mistake, David, never set abolished prisons.
[06:51:01] He did not play the speech.
[06:51:02] It's the narrative being set.
[06:51:04] Yeah.
[06:51:05] I didn't say abolished borders.
[06:51:09] I didn't say abolished prisons.
[06:51:10] I didn't say none of that.
[06:51:12] I said abolish ICE.
[06:51:15] Maybe he has a disagreement with that.
[06:51:16] I don't know.
[06:51:17] Well, that took it one step further.
[06:51:19] that punishize, abolishize, but also, you know, hold them accountable?
[06:51:25] I were an average voter with no knowledge of these online personalities, which most
[06:51:30] of these people are.
[06:51:31] Most people don't follow this sort of thing.
[06:51:33] They're busy living their lives and working and doing all this stuff.
[06:51:35] If I were an average voter with no knowledge of these online personalities, I would find
[06:51:39] these images and a lot of this stuff very alarming.
[06:51:42] So as I said last week, and so many of you agreed with me, Democrats must act now and
[06:51:47] intelligently.
[06:51:48] The centrists don't really do anything, make very milk toast fringe suggestions that you
[06:51:54] don't even really push for.
[06:51:56] Not working.
[06:51:58] This other thing of like end everything, it's a sort of destructive accelerationism, that's
[06:52:02] also not going to work.
[06:52:04] So I think that what we need here are no apologetics for dictatorship, no apologetics for authoritarianism,
[06:52:12] no harassment, no antisemitism, no allowing online factions to decide which liberals
[06:52:17] may enter the room, you know, what would I even have been allowed at that College Democrats
[06:52:22] thing? They invited me months ago. I don't know. I mean, I couldn't go. So we didn't
[06:52:26] find out.
[06:52:27] So we just need normal people to participate, join local committees, attend conventions,
[06:52:36] get involved with state parties, and let's turn the DNC into something that works. Many
[06:52:41] Any reasonable people doing a little can defeat both the centrist do nothing and the hardcore
[06:52:48] extremists who would get-
[06:52:50] Bro.
[06:52:51] Bro.
[06:52:52] He's trying to play the victim and he didn't even go, yeah bro, you were invited, clearly
[06:52:57] they don't fucking hate liberals, what do you mean?
[06:53:00] Like Jamie Raskin was a speaker at this thing, right?
[06:53:04] Like the idea that the young college democrats of america, the college democrats of america
[06:53:07] is some radical fucking organization is ridiculous.
[06:53:10] i am probably the most radical person that they allowed to speak at the event
[06:53:14] most of the other people are just like regular democrats
[06:53:17] you were invited to it
[06:53:19] you chose not to go you had other obligations as fine
[06:53:23] but like very clearly it's not a anti-liberal space at all it's not an
[06:53:27] illiberal space at all there's many different ideologies and
[06:53:31] sucks for you that uh... you know my world view is also being represented more
[06:53:35] and more within the democratic party
[06:53:38] He's saying that the destiny should have been let in. Yes. The reason why I'm bringing up
[06:53:42] the fact that he was invited and destiny was not let in is because I don't think David
[06:53:48] Pac-Man would ever be so fucking stupid as to literally live stream himself and his weird
[06:53:55] psychopathic restraining order having besties openly filled themselves with their intent
[06:54:03] to disrupt a speaking engagement, okay? Because obviously, if I were to do that, if I were
[06:54:10] to do that and I got fucking, you know, stopped, I would understand why, okay?
[06:54:17] Nothing done. Republicans believed they were going to control the extremists. They were
[06:54:22] like, ah, we got these people under control. The extremists took over the party. Democrats
[06:54:26] can still- I love how much of a centrist he is that he's trying to create a second center.
[06:54:30] He's like, no, no, no, I don't like the centrist either, but we got to find a center between
[06:54:34] the centrist and the left, the extreme left.
[06:54:39] So he talks about the harassment you got, but also that you are Mao who prevented D
[06:54:42] from being there, makes zero sense.
[06:54:43] Yeah, none of it makes sense.
[06:54:45] Prevent that outcome.
[06:54:46] But we've got to get them to get things under control right now.
[06:54:49] I've said before, I've never been a Democrat.
[06:54:51] I don't care about the Democratic Party beyond who offers the better candidates and usually
[06:54:55] it's Democrats over Republicans.
[06:54:57] But we've got to make sure that we don't allow that party, if it is the vessel at least
[06:55:01] for now, to something better than what Republicans are offering to be hijacked.
[06:55:06] This is about let's-
[06:55:08] Again, again, big dog.
[06:55:12] On line of what caused him to be banned from the event.
[06:55:14] Someone made this is very helpful.
[06:55:20] His location should be publicly available all the time while he's streaming.
[06:55:22] If Dan wants to do something useful and still be a son-hater, yeah.
[06:55:25] Someone should send this to Dave Pakman to David Pakman to be like, hey man, do you think
[06:55:29] this is defensible?
[06:55:30] Yeah, saying stuff like just a heads up.
[06:55:33] I'm going to do, I'm going to be doing some mass harassment campaigns on every single
[06:55:37] journalist who gives us guy free interviews from now on is the college democratic event
[06:55:40] today open to the public.
[06:55:42] Smile.
[06:55:43] This is the, the fucking, uh, this is the, the guy that's a part of his cult.
[06:55:49] This is him harassing other people.
[06:55:51] Yeah, doing fucking harassment campaigns against Destiny's enemies
[06:56:00] Like trying to try to get physically in their space and here he is filming himself with intent to fucking
[06:56:08] Disrupt this event the entire the entire timeline of different clips
[06:56:21] I literally told them that and they said like, no, I don't pay attention to yourself. I literally told them that we should have been like
[06:56:27] They should have been more positive signed up, honestly
[06:56:32] Yeah, they're they're like, oh next time we got to get better at our our harassment ops
[06:56:43] Oh
[06:56:45] Anyway, yeah, of course, even if all the other
[06:56:47] Other previous things that Epstein has said about me didn't exist, just the fact that
[06:56:52] they fucking filmed themselves with intent to disrupt the event alone would be sufficient
[06:56:58] evidence in and of itself to say, yeah, sorry, sorry, big dog, can't let you in, you know?
[06:57:05] It's so funny.
[06:57:09] It just escalated, what just escalated?
[06:57:12] Self-incrimination is the new meta, yeah, I know, it's so weird that they're like literally
[06:57:16] filming themselves doing this shit.
[06:57:37] Also, also, that motherfucker literally celebrated the State Department releasing their documents
[06:57:46] on Cuban terrorism. So I don't know why anybody thinks this guy is actually in any way shape or form, even a fucking liberal. Okay?
[06:57:57] He is unprincipled as shit. Didn't Neera just last week say she supports APAC over you? Yes.
[06:58:08] There's a war, there's a war. America itself has started and is in right now and is frankly shocking.
[06:58:14] there are no protest IRL on here about it. No one seems to care because every dem except
[06:58:18] Federman has voted against the war. That silence really lets Trump off the hook. The audacity
[06:58:22] of near attended to spend 90% of the time boosting APAC back candidates and the other
[06:58:26] 10% complaining that there aren't enough anti war protests is breathtaking.
[06:58:35] David Pacman knows, I don't think he knows the full details. I think these guys are fairly
[06:58:42] sophisticated in their mass harassment operations. They find people that they find to be ideological
[06:58:50] allies or close enough ideologically. And David is somewhat of a boomer. I'm sure he
[06:58:55] knows a big part of it, and he does agree with Destiny on many of these issues. That's
[06:59:02] part of the reason why he takes this oppositional stance. He's literally in the past told me,
[06:59:07] where he's told his audience that I said that he was being paid for by APEC or something.
[06:59:14] When it's ironic that I said the exact opposite, I just jokingly refer to him as David A. Packman.
[06:59:20] So you don't think he's pandering to his liberal Epsonie audience?
[06:59:31] I don't think Epsonie has that big of an audience.
[06:59:33] I think he relies on all these other much larger groups, much more influential groups.
[06:59:40] And even if David himself knows, I don't think his audience knows as well.
[06:59:44] I don't think his audience knows that this is what Epstein is up to.
[06:59:51] What A Pacman knew logs.
[06:59:55] Here's David knowing about Destiny's issues from 2025.
[07:00:00] David Pakman drops out of an event. He was co-headlining with Destiny in June, citing
[07:00:04] reputational concerns.
[07:00:07] Official statement from Pangburn regarding June 22nd event in Queens, New York. I forget
[07:00:11] to inform ticket holders that David Pakman has chosen to withdraw from a scheduled appearance
[07:00:14] at the anti-Trump tour event.
[07:00:17] Wow. David, why did you pull out of this event, David? That's crazy. That's crazy. So you,
[07:00:26] guy you chose to defend so when the college democrats of america do the same thing you
[07:00:32] did last year when the college democrats of america did the same thing you did last year
[07:00:45] You sighed with the guy who you said you couldn't be around?
[07:01:05] On May 9th, yeah, prior to signings contract, Davis was fully informed of the event details
[07:01:10] including some of the public accusations that Destiny is currently defending himself against.
[07:01:13] full knowledge of these circumstances, David agreed to participate in sign his contract
[07:01:17] allowing us to proceed with a formal public announcement and ticket sales.
[07:01:21] On May 9th, shortly after the announcement was made, David informed us that he had received
[07:01:25] some negative feedback regarding his participation. Despite previously indicating that he is not
[07:01:29] troubled by this and suggesting that negative feedback may have been instigated by agitators,
[07:01:32] David and his team later cited reputational concerns as their reason for backing out.
[07:01:43] Should I tweet at him and say, hey David?
[07:01:56] Why did you criticize the college Democrats of America doing some making a similar decision
[07:02:10] to you.
[07:02:40] This is what I have to say to David.
[07:02:49] What gives?
[07:03:10] David Pagman still frequents the subreddit, the brigade is incoming to my subreddit, wrong.
[07:03:22] Shows bigger than ever fortunately.
[07:03:29] Oh, so he's still in destiny subreddit. He's still posting in destiny subreddit. Oh, so he does know everything. Okay.
[07:03:37] It's good to know. I don't think his audience is probably going to be fond of David Pacman's
[07:03:44] back and forth opinion shift on this issue. But in any case, I got to go. I got to do
[07:03:50] a podcast. Okay.
[07:03:53] Love you guys. Again, I'm done. What the fuck? What is it for her song contents bag post
[07:04:07] Okay, not everything is for you, Lady.
[07:04:14] What is this?
[07:04:25] There's a lot of stickers in here.
[07:04:33] Okay, Dylan, designer and machinist, machinist.
[07:04:41] Two Hassanabi.
[07:04:43] Anyway, as I was going to say, so I am going to try to be live tomorrow, but vacation starts.
[07:04:57] This is what he gave me.
[07:05:07] Oh, hell yeah.
[07:05:09] Okay.
[07:05:12] I'm gonna try to be live tomorrow,
[07:05:16] but we shall see.
[07:05:19] Our vacation starts officially tomorrow, okay?
[07:05:23] Unless there's a major war or something like that,
[07:05:26] might not be live but yeah bro don't do it get on a hammock okay calm down calm
[07:05:43] down I'm a businessman okay I care about the markets I care about business I care
[07:05:49] about commerce okay and if someone who cares about commerce I gotta make sure
[07:05:53] that I'm monitoring a situation at all times. Anyway, uh, but yeah,
[07:05:58] from now until Sunday, I will be live, uh, periodically.
[07:06:04] If there is a major news story, if not, I'll be back on Sunday.
[07:06:07] Love you guys and see you.
[07:06:23] California says a song
[07:06:27] Stunlock to the stun lock
[07:06:31] to the top it's just begun
[07:06:35] Cause there is
[07:06:39] again a sun is streaming
[07:06:43] a sun is streaming
[07:06:47] There is again
[07:06:51] A son is streaming, a son is streaming
[07:06:59] Leave you in a Chinese train, talentile place
[07:07:06] Son in as many channels, giving greening grace
[07:07:14] Zoram winning NYC, World 2 back with a force
[07:07:21] The roguin' of the left to me, a dumb nimble, still on course
[07:07:29] The Charlie Kirk assassination, the fear and unlawful show
[07:07:37] Eight full fucking years of this, plenty more to go
[07:07:45] Doing fun stuff tomorrow, throw PBS up on the screen
[07:07:53] A man made for reaction brought to you by this life's dream
[07:08:01] Cause there he is again, the sun is streaming.
[07:08:09] The sun is streaming.
[07:08:12] There he is again, the sun is streaming.
[07:08:19] The sun is streaming.