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But what I really want is whether it's social media influencers on Twitch and YouTube like Hassan Piker, or other kind of promoters.
Say hello to Hassan!
We're forces! We'll not be silent!
We must always maintain revolutionary upheavals.
We must always continue to organize.
We must always continue to agitate
because the quicker we can create enough pressure
that causes the American state to recalculate its soon-to-attack with Israel,
the quicker we can save as many Palestinian lives possible.
What's going on, everybody?
I am Erwin Zeven, a fantastic evening after an interview, no matter where you are in the
world.
I'm a Southpike here at this house, and I broadcast coming to you live from sunny California,
California, Los Angeles folks were live and alive and I hope all the voice roles and
MVs are having a fantastic one because today is beautiful day today is a wonderful day
today is Monday that's right ladies and gentlemen it's Monday news day you already
know it's a new weekend yes I'm on my Clark Kent era we're live we're live and I hope
everyone is having a wonderful time. It is July 27, 2026.
Just finished the podcast banger episode. They're all bangers. You already know what
it is. But yeah, it's July 27, 2026. I am your host, Hasan Hassanabi Piker. I am 35
old and we have a lot of news to cover brother daily bugle need some headlines
well I'll give him some headlines today your upper lip creeps me out okay all
right get it out of the way get it out of the way get it out of the way yes yes
Um, anyway, where was I? Uh, yeah, this is part of the broadcast where I tell you about
my personal news about what's going on in the world of a song, Hassanami Piker between
the time period where I press the stop, shaman button and press the start shaman button.
It's 82 degrees and sunny here in stolen Tongva land, West Hollywood, Los Angeles, California.
already know what's up. We got it all, baby. Bro forgot how to use his upper
lip while talking. Okay, that's crazy. That's crazy. Y'all are crazy for that.
Anyway, can you stop doing this hairstyle literally the worst one you can pull?
I am not your Kendall, Chatters.
I am a 35 year old man.
It's very funny that people treat me like I am a 35 year old Kendall for you, okay?
Where you're like, oh, where this, where that?
I don't like this outfit.
I don't like this facial hair.
I don't like this hairstyle, okay?
I am sometimes baby girl is a 35 year old man
who gets to make his own adult decisions, okay?
And I need you guys to understand something, okay?
Above all else, I need you guys
to understand something very important.
Above all else, I am an international shipping magnet.
That's right.
I'm an international shipping magnet and I worry myself with international
shipping related decisions.
That's precisely the reason why I cover the straights all around the world.
Okay.
That's it.
Put some respect on it.
Put some respect on it.
Um, anyway, trust and believe, I've been trying to manifest you in a lavender.
And I know you're not my kind of Barbie in the name aside. Okay.
I look like I just inherited my dash of a company. Good. Because I did a trillion
there, trillion, our father, uh, import, export guy.
And that's me. That's who I am. Okay. Manifest and close is crazy.
I know, well, you know, people are bored. They're looking for whatever they can.
But, um, we got a lot to cover. We got a lot to talk about.
a lot of numbers, a lot of straights, lots to discuss. Okay. And we're going to get into
all of that. But before I do that, personal news, this is part of the broadcast. I'm going
to tell you about my personal news. One thing that took place last night, I ended the broadcast.
As always, shut ass loser time. You already know, didn't do anything because I am a loser.
My life is, is filled to the brim with zero activities. I basically go into a hyperbaric
like time chamber situation. As soon as I am done with the stream, I'm pretty much just
down in my coffin like a vampire and mostly wondering if you get tired of shaving. That's
why my husband has a beard. Well, that and it grows fast. Um, yeah, I'm a shut ass loser.
I didn't do anything last night as always. So not shocking at all. I hope now that I'm back
from my tropical travel destination. Now that I'm back from my tropical destination travel
with the family, I don't really have much going on. I don't really have much going on
in my life at all. However, one thing that took place last night, I had a bunch of nightmares
And I normally don't have nightmares at all. I normally, I sleep like a log, I sleep fairly, I sleep fairly comfortably, but for some strange reason, I had nightmares last night. Nightmares being chased by people.
stop. It was like half related to real world events. I think I just have like a lot going
on on my plate. So maybe that's part of it. Too much stress in the daily life. Unloading,
like offloading all of that responsibility for offloading all that responsibility for
approximately, you know, almost a week, four days, whatever. And then unloading that like
loading on all of that responsibly back in a matter of like less than 24 hours and boom
all of a sudden I have these these crazy dreams.
Brains just catching up to the real world maybe.
Maybe my mercury is in Gatorade.
I don't know.
Okay.
This requires your attention.
Okay, what is this?
How to teach an Australian to say no.
Let's begin.
Repeat after me.
No.
No.
is not correct. No, it's spelled N-O. No. No. No. That is actually spelled N-A-U-W-R-E-I-G-H.
Say no. No. No. No.
Every internet comedian inevitably befalls the fate of just like posting skits with
sexy ladies online, which I don't really hate because I enjoy seeing sexy ladies online,
but also at the same time, it just, it does come across sometimes a little bit cheap,
you know?
I like it.
But I also do feel like it's, it's so, it's a little bit played out anyway, but that's, that's my controversial take, you know.
China has just unveiled the AI-powered whiteboard for class. I saw this already.
Look at this all the all the china glazers this clip is already three years old, bro
Okay, my bad, bro. My bad. My bad. I'm not as tapped in as you on
Okay, my bad. I'm not as Chinese as you okay. I apologize chatter who sent me this link
You should apologize that other chatter because this is a three-year-old clip
This is how they portrayed you on Fox, I know exactly which Kyle Gordon's get this is I by the way
No, Kyle Gordon slander on my timeline. No, Kyle Gordon slander will be tolerated. I think he's very funny
Okay, I like everything he puts out. I am an unapologetic Kyle Gordon defender. I think we have to start
Actively defending I think we have to start actively defending like things that most people would call cringe
I've been thinking about this a lot
But there's this nostalgia baiting that zoomers, younger zoomers especially, are kind of leaning
into now where they're like, what happened?
Like in the 2010s, the millennials that were coming into the job market were so happy,
regardless of the fact that they were only two to three years out from the housing market
crash in 2008.
Why was there so much hope in America?
Was it Obama?
I think it's partially because of Obama, certainly.
But I think the other reason is because it was like pre-Hipster era, you were allowed
to be cringe.
You know, jib jab and new grounds and things like that, where, you know, there was a sense
of tweet and glee and people were very cringe, people were objectively cringe.
A couple of things changed.
Everybody became CCTV.
That's number one, number one.
Everyone has a phone camera now.
Everyone has a phone.
Everyone is CCTV.
Everyone is constantly filming other people and then posting everything on the internet.
What the fuck?
That was what the hell yante was that?
I mean, that'd be America! And all it's...
That was weird.
Anyway, what I was saying is, um, all of the...
Something changed, I think. Everyone became, uh, everyone became much more self-aware
in a way where they were worried about how cringe they would come across.
They were really worried about that. They were really worried about appearing as a cringe.
And it was accelerated with social media, it was accelerated with phones, phone cameras,
it was accelerated with like people's endless thirst to create user generated content. Right?
And I think we just killed the part of us that cringes.
And this is important, why?
Okay, this is important, why?
Because I think people like Kyle Gordon were allowed to be much funnier.
Like, this is, he is in many respects, you know, he does a lot of stuff that people find
to be cringe.
Everyone wants to be a critique of culture.
Okay, everyone wants to criticize culture.
wants to be a cultural critic. And for me, I like it. Let people be cringe. Let people
be theater kids. I probably do a little bit of that as well. I think we care too much.
I predict the next meta is going to be not caring.
And I hope that people don't try to manufacture that as well.
Because I think everything is fake, everything is a performance, and all of it is accelerated
with our phones.
But I do predict the next wave is going to be a millennial cringe coming back, a sense
of like fake optimism that we're trying to build, secret style.
We're going to manifest positivity by hoping that we will be positive.
And I think that's what people are going to lean into.
That's, you know, I'm just, I'm cooking it up in real time right now.
Maybe some of the stuff that I'm saying is not going to be 100% correct.
So bear with me. I'm just making this up as I go along. But that's where I predict some
of this is headed. Did you know there's a brief clip of you in the Hunter Biden, Nick
Fuentes debate? Sorry if you already covered. Don't yell at me. I did not. I did not see
that. I did see this, Argentine media made the, the, the, Argentina is trying to be like
Israel is so bad and it feels bad because they just don't have the motion.
Their economy is in the gutter. I always, like on the one hand, it's an easy dunk to
be like Argentina is so racist, right? On the other hand, I do feel kind of terrible
about the situation there, the economic situation there.
Having said that, having said that, they don't really help themselves at all, because this
is like Israeli television.
This is Israeli news.
So Argentinian television put together starting 11 with the main culprits behind the Argentinophobia,
including Aisho Speed, Ibe, Mia Khalifa, Zoramumdani, and more.
Let's take a look.
The mayor of Los Angeles, Manda, the president of Mexico, Shane Baum.
The president of Mexico, Shane Baum.
Yeah, they put my queen, Claudia Shane Baum on here, Shine Baum on here is messed up.
Samuel Jackson, Claudia Shine Baum, Rosalia, Speed, Mia Khalifa, Pierce Morgan, but it's
not Pierce Morgan, it's actually, what's his face?
I don't know why they put Piers Morgan as not Piers Morgan for some reason.
Oh, here's the real Piers Morgan.
This is not Piers Morgan.
This is, uh, uh, I was going to say fucking Paul Mezcal.
Yeah, it's, this is Piers Morgan.
This is penis Morgan, and Pedro Pascal, Pedro Pascal.
I don't see many white faces, they aren't beating the allegations, bro.
No, they got Pierce right there, they got eBay, Rosalía, and Pierce Morgan number two.
kind of white.
We are the Chats on Hollywood, the Chilean Pascal, the influencer Spill who had all
the world saying that.
Ibai, the Spanish, the Egyptian coach, Hassan, the actress, Porno, Mia Galifa, the peri-
I have a porno, me a ghalifa, a porno, me a ghalifa.
Who is, what should I know who H Hasan is?
Is that like a soccer guy?
Is that like the Egyptian coach or something?
Is that who that is?
Did I get that right?
Let's try. Look at me, dude. Yeah. What is it? No, it's a Hosom Hassan. Hosom Hassan.
Yeah. It's not me guys. It's not me. He's talking about the Egyptian. I'm not mo, I
am motionless. They don't even know about my Argentina slander. Okay. Or in Argentina,
which is fine. I don't need another fucking country to be up my ass in any case, while
I feel bad for Argentina all the time, on the other hand, they are not helping themselves
out, man. This kind of stuff is so like channel 14 Israeli television coded. I don't know what
else to tell you. Like this is a damn near identical unit of people that Israel would
also present as like, you know, the number one anti-Semites, you know what I mean? Like, I can see,
I can see the same exact segment playing on Israeli television.
BDBD netizens have thoughts on your new look.
Look, his beard makes him look a lot younger, but I'm still used to seeing with a beard.
Who's this clean looking young guy with such fair skin?
Who shaved his ass beard grow back quickly compared to before?
When I didn't have a beard, my skin actually has aged.
I should put on a face mask quickly.
Know yourself and know your enemy, and you will never be defeated.
American politicians seem not to understand this principle.
What a handsome beard.
Support Hasan after shaving off the beard, he's not as handsome anymore.
No, Chinese netizens don't think I'm handsome.
Even with a shaved beard, he is more handsome than any male Hollywood star today.
How did the global entertainment industry manage to filter out all the handsome guys?
But yeah, it's just like I said, it just feels strange.
It feels strange because on the one hand, I don't want to make fun of Argentina, they're
in a bad situation overall. And I feel like it's easy. It's the easiest dunk of all time.
Did you be like, yeah, they're races, they suck, which, you know, there is some truth to it.
There's certainly some truth to that sentiment. But Argentinians, they really make it difficult
to defend them. Javier Malay makes it virtually impossible to defend the state. Obviously,
he is a clown-ass and you are constantly, you're constantly thinking about like what the mentality
with the mindset is of a nation that elected that asshole. And by the way, I understand that as an
American, right? We hear that a lot and we deserve it, right? Because if you were to say, oh, it says
you Yankee, you're right. But here's the difference. I understand that we deserve that enmity because
we fucking voted for Donald Trump, right? So I get it. I get it. I still feel bad,
But like I said Argentina you make it so tough to defend you
You make it so tough anyway
A lot of things that happen in Argentina are just like objectively
Spiritually Israeli right Javier Malay is probably the most Israeli politician
Javier Malay is basically itamar Ben Gavir
Like, he's up there. Like, Jared Bolsonaro, Donald Trump, and Javier Malay are probably
some of the most Israeli politicians we've ever seen. Like, very Israeli coded. There
are many others in South America. Make no mistake, there are a lot of them that have
gotten elected, some with maybe even American involvement. This is a big part of the Donro
doctrine is to dominate South America. Bukele, literally Palestinian, but also once again,
very Israeli coded. Yeah. Bukele is literally Palestinian, okay, technically of Palestinian
dissent. Again, another politician that is very Israeli coded. Who's we, not we? What do you mean?
People just viewing, why don't you actually educate yourself on leftist protest movements here
rather than generalizing people just viewing South American politics via North American lens law?
Oh, oh my God, anytime, anytime, anytime, I offer just a shred of that same scrutiny
that I apply to America, to anybody else, okay?
People lose their dang minds.
i understand that no country is monolithic
it's the same with europe
you'll love it when i shit on the uroids
you'll love it when i shit on america but the moment that i turn around and
talk about
your country all of a sudden you're like well well well
what you mean we're fighting the good fight out here i know we all are
we're all in this together we are all united
as a part of this international movement
So when I'm making fun of your country, I'm, I'm mostly making fun of the reactionary elements in your country.
This is something you should understand. USA and Euro have power.
I know, but there's still clowns in both USA and Europe.
And also, also Euro has power is kind of funny. That's a bit of a stretch, buddy.
Only America has power in Israel. Okay.
I think events have shown, events have shown that every other country with the
The exception of Israel and the United States of America is just vassalized and living through
their own version of serfdom to varying degrees.
Like obviously Europe is in a better predicament overall in comparison to like South America.
Okay, but you know, Europe is America's dog.
But in any case, when I'm making jokes about your country, I'm not making fun of the entire
country.
I'm making fun of the reactionary elements in your country in the same exact way.
Anyway, but then you have all of these other countries, and then you have China, and you
have Turkey.
the table. China is the great power. Keep saying a big dog, you'll end up in a camp and we won't.
Hello. Hi. Hello. Are we monitoring the situation? Okay. All right. We're monitoring the situation.
Look at this. Okay.
Who's we? South America showcase what failed revolutions look like, which is good. Okay, dude.
Stop pretending to be nice to your dog. Yeah, I'm usually very mean to my dog all the time.
I'm nonstop. That's why I'm just, it's just a performance for you. I, I hate her.
Um, anyway, where was I? Did I blast off already? Oh, I forgot. I was, I was
and ranting about fucking South America comedy about millennial cringe and how we must bring
it back. Let's blast off. We gotta blast off. We gotta do the Jim Clyburn debate as well.
We got the Nick Fuentes conversation with Hunter Biden, which I think is, I have a lot
of thoughts on that. You know, I find that kind of stuff to be relatively unproductive
Cause it's a platforming operation for Nick Fuentes. Let's be real.
He is still like, he's not at the level.
I wouldn't say he's at the level where what the fuck?
What is happening in my fucking PC, man?
Oh my God. What the fuck?
How you got? Yeah, I, I, I, I.
I
Did this is so goddamn annoying I I go away for five days
I literally I let David touch this fucking thing and he just bricked it. I
Just I don't know why this keeps happening now. I
Knew this was gonna happen. He said my 4090 actually was leaking coolant
And that's the reason why I had a flicker on the monitor and he's like we got to put a new GPU in there
Everything's gonna be the same. I was like, I don't know if we should do this. He's like, no, we're gonna do this
It's gonna be fine now
With the new GPU not the fucking 4090. It's a 5090. All right. It's supposed to be better. It's not better
Guess what now my fucking google chrome keeps breaking out of nowhere randomly. Okay
All the goddamn time like what the fuck is this?
Very there we go we did it
And before you say that's just Google Chrome big dog
That's just Google Chrome big dog. It's the same damn Google Chrome
I had Google Chrome already and now it seems like it's a it's there's like a memory issue. I
Don't know what it is
I don't want to hear from you guys being like that's just Google Chrome big dog
That's just Google Chrome the reason why I don't want to hear that is because it was Google Chrome before
Okay
5090s just got like shittier software, I guess on top of the 4090 I would much rather have the old one
I don't know driver update. Maybe maybe it's all that shit. Who knows? Okay. Out of Larkin
debate. Yeah, Monday, Newsday, ladies and gentlemen, Michigan debate. Get in now. You
You got a GPU with a liquid cooler.
What are you running over there?
ChatGPT?
Yeah, I don't do any of that.
I was listening to the New York Times Daily earlier about ChatGPT and AI.
And there was some scary, there was some scary moments in there, but I think there was also,
there was a lot that they discussed on there that gave me a little bit of confidence about
like AI's, obviously like AI's initial displacement of existing, the existing labor force and
then like how this will create a J curve of, you know, explosive growth.
I don't think that's necessarily wrong. The reason why I say that is because they point to the dot-com bubble and
about how many jobs were lost in the process initially, but as long as if it's a gradual process of growth,
then at first there is going to be, you know, some job loss,
but then it leads to explosive growth in new job opportunities, and I think there is some truth to that.
Although it is a fucking bubble,
The AI bubble is not comparable.
I'm anti-AI across the board.
You guys know this.
I'm a gold star anti-AI guy.
I've literally never really used AI.
I have not engaged in any sort of adoption AI in my day-to-day activities.
Sometimes I think to myself,
is this an L?
Am I actually
Making it harder on myself because everyone else is using it and if everyone else is using AI
But I choose not to use AI with the exception of like Charlie Kirk names with the exception of carrying the fucking flame
Am I
Am I saving myself from the cognitive offloading that obviously takes place or
Or, am I having a harder time identifying with the masses because the masses are using AI?
This is a thing that I think about.
You've used AI and didn't know it?
Yes, I'm talking like I don't have chat to be, I don't have chat to be to have never
used chat to be to have never gone on like Claude or Gemini or any of these things.
if there's AI in the search, sometimes I, you know, I look at it. I'm not, I'm not religious
about this stuff. Okay. I'm not, I'm just saying I don't use like generative AI, except
for that one time we did that Suno competition for, for Will Stream. Like it's not, it's
It's not a part of my regular consumption, right?
Was the Ottoman decision to ban the printing press good?
That's what someone asked.
I think it's important to understand new technologies, especially even if you're not going to use
it yourself.
You need to understand it because you need to understand how other people are thinking
and other people, how other people operate, right?
What would you use it for? Unless it's academic research with citation,
in your use case, it's minimal. Yeah, no, it's for research and, you know, writing
speeches, shit like that. But I hate the fucking, I hate the AI speak. When I hear it,
I cringe, and it's so easily identifiable if you don't use AI. And I don't know if it's
easily identifiable for people who do use AI, because I think it starts changing the way they
speak. And I don't know. So this is what I was thinking of. I was like, I think AI genuinely
has changed the way people speak, especially if they use it consistently. So even when they're
not getting the AI to write their speech, I still think it changes the way they speak
and maybe even the way they think. The whole juxtaposing different things in your speech,
like, it's not this, it's that. I hate that shit. You can make it so it will speak in
yours in our style? I don't think so. But I do think that AI is changing the way people
certainly speak. It's changing people's speech patterns.
Great opinion. I will take that on board. And you know what? That's growth. Yeah.
Yeah, I I hate that. I hate that any cognitive skill you offload AI you will yourself you will loot yourself lose over time and end up needing
To rely on mimicking AI and that's what's fun about it. You don't even know you're getting dumber. I know I
Know and that's what I'm actually terrified by I'm not one of those guys who's like oh AI is gonna
control the universe and the AGI is imminent and it's gonna be this like
like nuclear shift, the seismic shift that will change the planet, change the way we
understand the world. Everyone's going to be, every aspect of labor is going to be automated.
I'm not one of those guys at all, but I do think that there are subtle differences in
regular human existence that we do not factor. We do not think about. And I think AI is playing
a formative role in making these changes slowly but surely and as far as mass adoption
goes like the more people utilize it, the more people change their minds.
AI wrote this, the academic weight of Piker streaming model is, what?
The academic weight of Piker streaming model is detailed in the work of media scholar Alexander
Rudin Sheld. In his master's thesis, live and leftist, Twitch political livestreaming in
Sompike or Rudin Sheld, utilize a mixed methods approach, combining auto ethnography, the walkthrough
method, and computational text analysis to trace the lineage of political livestreaming from right-wing
talk radio onward. I mean, other people have written master's thesis about me, so it's not,
it's not surprising if that's the case, but in any case,
Have you seen how the anti-Assasson slop online have muddled the training of LLMs?
Who is Assan Piker?
Born in New Jersey, a Palestinian mother and a Turkish father, Piker graduated from Tufts
University.
None of this is correct.
My mother is Turkish American.
My father is Turkish Turkish.
And I did not graduate from Tufts.
He began his streaming in 2017, wrong, 2018, initially focusing on Super Smash Bros., no,
Fortnite.
He identifies the Democratic Socialist frequently covering topics like wealth and equality, housing
rights, healthcare, and a failure to capitalism, okay, fair.
God, this stuff is so wrong.
What are you going to do? I mean, we were just talking about how AI sucks. Can't believe
the paper is real. Why is that shocking to you? This is not the only paper, right? There
have been, if you're in the digital sphere, if you're in media studies in any capacity,
it makes total sense that you would write a paper on this kind of stuff and many people
have.
I think you guys forget.
Anyway
Where was I? All right, AI investment is a circle jerk more than the last time you checked.
I mean, that's how I feel about it generally, but that's not what I'm talking about. Right?
I'm not one of those guys that's like telling you that this is going to change the universe,
it's going to change the planet, it's going to shock the world. I mean, it will change
the world, but not in the way you're thinking. It has changed the world, whether it be except
accelerating climate change, whether it be, you know, mass energy demands, whether it
be inflation on energy prices, it's already changed the world.
But I think it's also changing the way we see the world, the way we interact with the
world.
And what I'm talking about, of course, is the fact that AI is changing the way we speak,
for example, our speech patterns change the way we do research.
These are, I think, very real ways in which AI is impacting how we live our day-to-day
existence.
You literally just talk like ChatChipD, it will do X, but not in the way you think.
Common AI speech pattern, Lamal, no.
I don't have any common AI speech patterns, and the reason for why I don't have any common
AI speech patterns is because I don't use AI.
no, I don't use AI in any capacity, which is why I think my speech pattern is still not
similar as, like, my speech patterns are mine, right? My speech patterns are my own.
There are plenty of little quirks that I deploy with regular frequency.
ironically enough, regular frequency is one of them, right? This is something that I do,
and I think a lot of people can form off of that as well. Like a lot of people in this community
also do it. Unironically, I say too much. There are plenty of things that I say and repeat,
but none of them come from AI speech patterns.
I say at the end of the day a lot, there are sentence modifiers that I deploy
all the time because I talk all the time. I talk for, you know, eight hours a day. If you're talking
for eight hours a day professionally, there are going to be a lot of different things that you repeat.
It's normal. It happens.
You guys are dumping many of those
common Hassanabi speech patterns in the chat right now.
None of which comes from AI. Jamele Boulie on
Hassanabi fashion. Oh, I watched this already. I watched this on vacation
actually. It was pretty good. It's a pretty interesting video.
It's not literally copied off the goat. Jamele Boulie. Yeah,
Jamel Buie's style is great.
It's going to break your heart that you did not find this clip but when a song first started wearing suits, somebody accused him of basically copying Nick Quentin in response to that accusation. He said, if anything, he's ripping off Jamel Buie.
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You thought it was dead. You thought it was dead because Graham Plattner killed it. It turns out you can't kill a movement. Okay?
Walk like a chud think like a woke is still very much in action
This literally happened to me at Meyer yesterday chudda white boy saw my Abdul had in line and complimented it
That's what I am talking about, dude. Jordan Theory, who are you?
It's true. It's true. And it is necessary. This is a broad coalition, okay? This is a
broad coalition. We need the wine moms, and we need the barstool socialists as well.
So everyone's got a part to play in this. Okay. Everyone's got a part to play in this.
This is a guy that in all other circumstances looks like he would, you know, fail out of
basic training and then become a cop. And here he is pushing for socialism, the barstool
Bolshevik's
Okay respect I love this guy
During Metro surge John truck with a chud behind the wheel came screaming up to our brothers and everyone rightly was so ready to bolt
He got out and opened his bed
Yeah
Bro looking like a Baltimore Maoist? Okay, that's a very specific archetype. We're
Maoists, okay? We critique the contradictions. We're Maoists. We're Baltimore Maoists. We
do it so next time, your ass is in a concentration camp.
has to have the fucking Baltimore Malice clip, which is not even in Baltimore, but very clearly
in New York. Barstool Bolshevik may be the most important voting block going forward.
Yes. Is this peak chud brain? If you hate liberals, shouldn't you like abortion because
isn't abortion just killing future level of babies?
That's a great question.
Well, here, this is, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, he's gonna fly off in this one.
Yeah, we make a critique of it in order to improve socialism.
Next time it comes around, those people like you in a labor camp,
and those people like your eyes, they go, look at that.
They're like, you're a bad thing.
They're like, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.
love Baltimore Mouse very clearly in New York by the way.
Stevens quartering the TikTok girlies market. Oh yeah, I've seen this. I've seen this. These are the girlies on TikTok are exposing paid and undisclosed influencers making content for Haley Stevens campaign. Yeah.
yeah. Haley Stephens heard human fucking rights and dipped. Do your best Baltimore accent.
There's no shot. I can't do it. For you. Let's go. This post was critiqued by real Baltimore
We're Maoist? True. We make a critique of it in order to improve socialism. Okay? We're Maoist. From Baltimore.
Say, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. There you go.
it's so funny. Hasan Piker. We've talked about this show before. Just say my friend Hasan
Piker Mehdi. I literally was on your other show five days ago. Mr. Journalist. I must be impartial,
of course. Hasan Piker, who we've talked about on this show before.
He's so professional, dude.
Dude still has it paywall. We're dying to see it. Yeah, you just got a bike to bullet there, you know
by mainstream media Democrats going on his show, but you also on the show of a streamer called Mike
from PA who was caught on tape referring to Jewish ethnicity as invented and demonic. He has since
apologized for those remarks, but obviously an outrageous statement. Your campaign responded
by condemning anti-Semitism, but also by saying quote, Fran is willing to go anywhere.
If we refuse to show up, those voters will hear only from the right.
I'm just wondering though, as a Democratic socialist who's trying to build a coalition
and speak to anyone anywhere, should there be limits on where Democrats are and are not willing
to go when it comes to media appearances? Or can Democrats not afford to say no to any?
Wisconsin Republicans online are telling Republicans to vote for
for Francesca Hong in the Den primaries. Oh, it's so awesome. They're doing it. Oh, that's
so sick. First of all, they tried to do this. They tried to play this off with like, Abdul
El Sayed as well. And then very quickly, we're like, actually, never mind, don't do that.
And let me tell you something. Okay. Let me tell you something. It is going to fail.
It is going to fail.
It is going to blow up in their faces.
It's awesome.
Let them try to do the fucking Pied Piper.
They don't even realize Donald Trump was the Pied Piper.
Donald Trump was presented as the best guy to defeat by Hillary Rodham Clinton and her
campaign.
Okay?
I am telling you right now.
Francesca Hong will destroy Tiffany, okay? Tom Tiffany's got nothing. And these people
are boomers as well. The very same boomer mindset that you hear from establishment Democrats
who are just like, oh, this is going to be a toss up of his Francesca Hong. It's going
to be a toss up. We can't let her, we can't let her be elected as the main candidate.
going to be a real issue. Those people are wrong. Okay? Those people are wrong. It's
that simple.
Francesca Hong will destroy Tom Tiffany. I've been telling you, I know for a fact.
I know it in my heart. I know it in my soul. Let them underestimate us. Let them underestimate
us. Let them think that we have, let them think that they have an easy path to victory.
Okay, it's fine. I've been duking it out with pollsters and having this conversation with
as many pollsters as possible, who legitimately think that Francesca Hong is a toss-up whereas
Mandela Barnes is not. Okay? It's bullshit. They're wrong. They're underestimating the
youth voter turnout, and they're underestimating it in the primary right now. They're miscalculating
even in the primary, which in the general will be explosive in the regular midterm elections
against the Republican matchup, it is going to be insane. They are undercounting youth
voter turnout.
Trust.
Hassan you're wrong, Carlos Dixon is the way to go.
Shut the fuck up chatter.
Shut up please.
Please stop.
It was really funny when it was literally Carlos Dixon in the chat being like, bro,
should really look into this Carlos Dixon guy, not the science guy. Yeah, Carlos Dixon, whose
primary opposition is, is DSA. His is the goes are, but a smidge unhinged. Yes, he is
completely unhinged. Anyway, let's see what Francesca Hong had to say to Matthew Hassan.
Francesca Hong be like, we're Baltimore Maoist.
We critique socialism in order to improve it.
That's what she's gonna say here, okay?
That's what her answer should be, honestly.
Her answer should be, we critique socialism to improve it.
Yeah, we critique socialism to improve it.
We're Baltimore Maoist.
I think making the assessment in who you are getting your message to as opposed to how
you may be uplifting another platform, the host, the streamer, these are two different
assessments.
And if every elected official were to be responsible for endorsing or having to answer to what
every other host or streamer of a platform that you are going on has said, I think it
would get more and more difficult for folks to even hear other ideas, different visions,
contradicting opinions.
And so how people decide where and who to share their message to, you know, I think
that assessment also depends on the individual.
There are going to be places where I feel as though I would not be safe.
And what are the precautions or the different guardrails that I'm putting up for myself?
And...
Matthew trying to take down Mike and socialists, he's gross, why is he asking these questions?
Dude, what are you talking about?
No, this is classic dog.
This is classic Mehdi Hassan, okay?
He is always going to ask these questions as a, you know, he's always going to ask these
questions because these are questions that need answers because mainstream media has turned this
into a fucking major issue, right? Calm down. If what Mike from PA said previously, why are Dems
allowed to go on Fox? Wait, what? And my staff, my community by going on a stream. I think for
both Mike for PA and with Hassan. They have many, many viewers and listeners who are engaged
in political issues. And it's important that one, we get our message out on what we are
trying to build here in Wisconsin, which is permanent affinity and work, permanent affordability
and working class people power. But also looking at are we, are we platforming someone on our
platform by going on and sharing this message. And so I think it's an assessment of both
the individual who, it's an assessment of how I feel
and where I feel safe.
It's an assessment of who the message is.
Only critique is a Baltimore mouse.
To this, this is too wordy of a defense.
Like, I think like tackling the question is good.
I think just saying like, look, we got to go to every space.
We got to talk to the masses.
And that includes people whose opinions
I'm sometimes not going to agree with.
And that's perfectly valid.
That's it.
Just getting to and whether or not the platform is growing or not.
I appreciate that.
People might wonder, would you have gone on that show, the Mike from PA Show, had you
known about his comments about Jewish people?
Would you go again?
I was not aware of the comments and I do know that Mike has apologized for those comments.
We need additional context and I think that depending on where...
Yeah, I hate the sound by shit.
I hate the sound by shit. It's like if someone genuinely feels this way, like if someone has
legitimate hatred, legitimate Jew hatred in their heart, in their commentary, in their
advocacy, you can't, it's not going to be like one thing that you caught. Okay. Like
it's not going to like accidentally it slipped out. Okay. Like that's not how this works.
We talk for hours and hours and hours a day, right?
Here we go again.
No, it's just fucking ridiculous.
I find it fucking ridiculous.
Like the reason why we say Nick Fuentes is a neo-Nazi is not because he one time accidentally
slipped up or something.
It's because he consistently makes Jew Hatred a primary focus of his advocacy.
That's not how this works.
Okay?
one time someone actually misspeaks or the one time someone is like instead of saying Zionism says
like Judaism is a religion or whatever the fuck right like it just it is it is very obviously it
is very obviously a ridiculous argument that you're trying to fucking lean into right
like we have to be a little bit more uh we have to be a little bit more adult about this stuff
It's very frustrating. I know in a clip culture universe that we exist in where we're just like, oh, well up there you go
That clip looks bad. It's fucking bullshit. It's not even just Mike. It's just myself. It's every single person
We do this to every single person. I
Don't like it. I don't like it because it's insincere. I don't like it because that's not how human beings operate, right?
It's just bullshit
Like, oh, it's spoiled. This person is ruined now. They're impure. They're unclean. And
the side that is, the thing that is very frustrating about this attitude in general, this is not
even a defensive like what Mike has said. He's apologized for it. But the thing that's
frustrating to me about this is like, this is a problem for liberals too. Because our
opposition broadly, if we are against the Republican Party, if we are anti-fascists,
if we are the oppositional forces, whether we disagree with one another ideologically
or not, doesn't matter. If we are opposing fascism, Trumpism, MAGA, reactionary thought,
We have to recognize that our opposition does not play by these rules.
They do not play by these rules at all.
They just say, who gives a shit, suck my dick, yeah, I said what I said, and move on.
And that is an unnecessary weapon, an unnecessary point of leverage that we give our opposition.
Okay?
It's very frustrating.
don't apologize. They double down. Liberals, on the other hand, create this like false
sense of moral purity around choice quotes. They create this false sense of perfection
that doesn't exist in the real world, okay? It does not exist in the real world. And
the same thing goes for disagreements. I mean, this is leftist purity as well. Leftist purity
politics is toxic. I oppose it. I yell about it all the time. What do I always say? You
You're not going to agree with every single thing that I say. It's just not going to happen.
Think about loved ones that you have in your life. Do you agree with every single thought?
Do you agree with every single take? Do you agree with everything that they've said throughout
their lives? Of course not. Of course not. That's not how the world works. Okay? So why is it?
it. Why is it that the expectation of your favorite political commentator is that you
have to agree with every single thing that they've ever said and that the expectation
from them is that they have to be perfectly pure like a brand. They have to be perfectly
pure like a brand and they have to be infallible. That's impossible. And if one side is demanding
infallibility and the other side is not, the side that's not demanding that will always win in the
long run. Okay? It's that simple. So, I say, don't lean into oppositional framing,
and don't cave or capitulate to silly right-wing takes like this.
There was apparently a TikTok where someone read one paragraph of Marx and called him
sexist.
They out here clipping dust capitol.
Yeah, this kind of stuff is toxic.
And it's self-defeating, and it's only self-defeating for the left.
use it towards their left flank. Republicans use it towards liberals and their left flank broadly.
It only works in one direction. It only works directionally towards the left. And the only
reason why it works is because the audience is more receptive to this kind of thing,
no matter how cynical it is. I'll give you one example. I'll give you one great example of this.
Abdul El Sayyed versus Haley Stevens. Abdul El Sayyed has been called an Islamic terrorist,
an Islamic-style woman-hater, an aggressive Arab over and over and over again. He's not
electable. He's Muslim. He's too Muslim. It is classic Islamophobia, the idea that this brown
guy is scary and hates women. When he has never demonstrated women hatred in any way, shape, or
form, okay? Yet, the critiques of Abdul only work in one direction. They claim he's a misogynist
over and over again, okay? Abdul has even come out and said, we should not focus on,
you know, I've seen online people attacking my opposition. They should stop doing that.
He didn't take ownership over it, which is fine, but he still recognized it, right? He
He did the classic Bernie Bro lean in the same way that Bernie had done in the past,
where he apologized for the Bernie Bros.
He was forced to apologize for it.
It was a bad decision for Bernie, and it was a bad decision for Abdul as well.
Okay?
It's only one side that has to constantly, constantly abide by the false standard of
perfection that people create. Okay? So I say if your opposition is engaging in cynical framing,
if your opposition is engaging in this is this cynical framework that they do not abide by,
don't play there, don't play by those rules, don't play by their rules, you do not have to play by
their rules at all that simply not truce is the beefy man i don't know you're
talking about
yet the new uh... the new thing is over on a pike
uh... they're saying that he called haley stevens and over that's not true use
calling John Fetterman and Ogre, right? And these guys are cynical monsters, which is
why you should never play by those rules. You should never play by the rules because
they don't play by the rules that they present, okay? They're bad faith. It's that simple.
So just keep pushing your values, keep promoting your worldview, reach as many people as possible.
Use the media wave to your advantage. Use the controversy to your advantage to reach
a broader audience. When they yell at you over this stuff, you turn around and you say,
hey, look, I'm about this, this and that, okay? I'm about Medicare for all. I'm about stopping
the endless militarism. I'm about bringing some of those resources back to Michigan,
back to the United States of America. And that's what I'm gonna fight for. And that's
precisely the reason why there are, you know, millions, tens of millions of dollars being
funneled into this campaign. That's it. You have your moral convictions. You have your
values. You don't have to apologize for a cynical bastardization of your worldview. Okay?
This entire conversation about like black voters, for example,
I think black voters are going to shock the world as well.
I think that the black voting bloc sometimes has the capacity to operate as a voting bloc that is somewhat more timid in their decision making.
But even then there is a massive generational breakdown here.
And I think the black voters are not going to go in the direction that people think they will as well.
Okay? And we'll talk about that. But black voters in general are far more progressive.
Black voters in general are far more progressive than the way people think.
They are than the way that they're presented in the media, than the way that their establishment figureheads present the black voting block.
Black voting bloc, consistently the black demographic in this country is the most progressive
demographic, okay?
There are polls conducted on different races, different ethnicities in this country.
Black people, not just black voters, but black people by and large are far more appreciative
of socialism, far more invested in left populist agendas, even if they don't end up voting.
in that direction. Okay? For example, the idea that the black voting bloc is all invested
in Hailey Stevens and her agenda is completely ridiculous. Not only are black people not
a monolith, right? They're not a monolithic force. No one is. But also, black voters in
particular are far more anti-ice than Hispanic voters are, than white voters are. Black people
in particular are far more pro-Palestine than white people are, than Hispanic people are.
There's poll after poll that is conducted in this fucking country that shows that reality.
So even if the black voter block is being used as a weapon by the media to say,
all black people feel this way. Black people are opposing, you know, progressive politics.
It's fucking bullshit. Okay? Black voters, just like every other voting block, is susceptible
to television ads, is susceptible to its trusted leaders leading them astray at times. It's that
simple. Okay? There's nothing, there's nothing unique. The experience under living in a, you know,
white supremacist country offers some unique experiences for black people by and large.
That's part of the reason why they're more progressive overall. But as far as like older
voters being duped, for example, like that's not, that's not unique to black voters. Okay?
That's not unique. That's just fucking boomers. That's all boomers.
Hello?
Have you seen white boomers?
Do you know what your white relatives are looking at on their Instagram feeds, on their Facebook feeds, what they're getting fucking duped by?
It's the same AI bullshit.
It's just old people shit. That's all this is.
Okay
That's all this is
So yes
So, everyone gets duped to a certain degree.
It is what it is, specifically the old, okay?
A story, yeah, there was a story that came out in Kentucky where boomers genuinely thought
Thomas Massey was in a truffle with Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because
there was an AI ad that suggested that.
Okay.
But Sean Duffy.
Yeah.
Trump is delivering remarks in Michigan right now.
I was with him on the plane.
I said, Sean, did you clear that?
No, sir.
Not yet.
I want it done now.
Oh, it's done.
Hasbulla blew up a bus in my city in Europe in 2012 and Sarafovo, Sarafovo,
Bulgaria, now is your chance to convince me that I'm wrong for supporting the war in Iran.
Will you take that chance? Yeah. How do you think that happens? What do you think will
happen as far as like retaliation, as far as blowback goes? Do you think an eye for an
eye makes the whole world blind? Or do you think an eye for an eye is actually productive?
blows up Iran, and then there are, you know, counter movements against that.
How do you think that took place initially?
Also, you're literally Bulgarian.
Like, you're not the main character in your life story.
I apologize.
As a Turkish person, I totally get, you know, wanting to feel like you have any say in this
process.
you're fucking Bulgarian, okay? And as someone who's Turkish, let me tell you, we are not
the main characters in any of these fucking stories, okay?
What difference does your input have in American imperialism? I didn't realize that you were
Benjamin Netanyahu in the chat. No, where I come from, we say an eye for a tooth for a jaw.
Okay, well, you're not doing that. You're not even taking revenge on Iran right now. You're
just sitting on the internet assuming that you're doing something. Okay, none of this is happening
for you. You're just simply responding to it and making yourself feel more powerful,
which is what powerless people do. Whether they be powerless Americans who believe that American force projection capabilities will actually make them feel powerful.
Okay, same as you know exactly same as me. I'm explaining to you that this is peasant mindset. Okay.
Same as myself, yes. The difference between you and I, of course, is that I'm an American citizen
as well, and I'm doing my very best to at least scale back on American imperialism to the best
of my ability, which is a very hard, very long, and very steep hill to climb. Okay?
But the idea that like a Hezbollah attack in your city in Bulgaria justifies killing 120
little girls in their school with a tomahawk missile is insane. Okay, by the way, that was
Israeli buzzers. It doesn't matter, Chatters. I mean, look, civilians are civilians regardless.
my point is, my point is something different. My point here, the point that I'm making is that
you have the capacity to look at this stuff and not immediately demand vengeance from
other random parties. If you have this mindset that, you know, those is really,
those is really not a buzz, didn't deserve to fucking die, okay? Then you can extend that to
the schoolgirls, you can extend that to the Iranian population. Do their bridges deserve
to be blown up? You think their bridges deserve to be blown up? I don't.
I'm not in favor of more violence.
You realize that one miss in 20,000 plus bombs dropping is nothing? I'm done having this
conversation with you because you're a Bulgarian who's defending the Israeli imperial conquest in
Iran. And I'm sorry to say this to you, Chatter. Like I said, I'm Turkish. I understand wanting
to be at the table, wanting to be the center of this conversation, but you're probably less relevant
than a dude that lives in Alabama. Like you have no say in this whatsoever. Like the dude that at
at least pays taxes in Alabama,
probably has a little bit more of a moral culpability
with these actions and probably a little bit more say
than you do, you are nothing.
It's like when you see people on Twitter,
like Indian people on Twitter coming in to be like,
India is a lion too, India supports Israel
to the fucking hill, we're backing Israel to the hill.
You know, it's like no, you're not your your takes on this are are utterly immaterial
It's completely irrelevant like you're just you're just chirping
You see what I mean
one miss hit is crazy 100% an asmold chatter I can smell the Eurocook I know I don't understand
what that mindset is where you know you're like I'm a Bulgarian chatter and I love Donald
Trump I don't think you convinced that Chatterlam out I don't have to convince that Chatter he's
literally in Bulgaria his input is is utterly immaterial utterly irrelevant in this conversation
Okay. That's it. Like, a guy comes in here super arrogant and is like, well, you know, it's one fucking school who gives the shit, you know, we give authorization to the US to use our bases so my voice does count, mate.
Oh
Yo
This guy thinks he has a fucking say
Yo, that is awesome dog
France doesn't have the fucking balls that you think you have
And france has nukes
You think you have a say in the authorization
That American I'm Turkish motherfucker. Listen, it's very funny that we're having this back and forth right now
It's like me being like oh dude as a as a fucking as a as a Turkish citizen
Let me tell you okay, we are allowing the the AWACS planes to fucking fly off of the interlake base
That also carries American nuclear arms like we don't have a say at all
Dumbass
We're on the fucking cock chair
We're on the cook chair you and I okay
You're just experiencing patriotism by proxy for some fucking reason. I am Turkish. So it's funny
Okay, it's funny to me
especially as a
Turkish person
Watching this fucking cope from a Bulgarian person. You are not even in the cook chair
You are not even in the cuck chair in the hotel room
You're in the cuck chair in the hotel room next to you where your wife is getting fucked
And you're trying to listen in with a cup to the wall. You're not even in the room motherfucker
Fuck you mean all we give America authorization to use our military bases
What is wrong with you?
You put a fucking paper cup to the wall to hear your wife get fucked
That's how cocked you are. You're not even in the room.
Maybe you're in the hotel lobby, calling into the room with the hopes that your wife gets...
Your wife picks up the phone while getting fucked so you can hear it.
Okay?
Maybe if you're lucky, you're not even in the same hotel.
You're not even in the same zip code.
You're not allowed access to the fucking room and you're over here being like oh, these are American bases that we give
Authorization to oh, yeah, go walk into one of them
These are American military bases that you give authorization to why don't you go walk into that American military base do me a favor
Go walk into that American military base Bulgarian chatter
Come back with the with the results. It's on your soil. It's your authorization
Authorization you allowed it to happen go walk into that base
Damn Hassanabi malding live you think I'm malding you think this is malding
Of course, it's another fucking asming gold chatter who thinks he's a part of the team you're not a part of the team little bro
Go worry about Marvel movies and Elon Musk funding of sponsoring a Mel Gibson Odysseus
movie.
Okay.
Go worry about things that are in your, you know, go worry about things that you can
actually wrap your mind around like titties and video games.
You feel me?
What is this?
I swear to God, all women have a secret fantasy of getting raped. Oh God, gross. Of course, he's like this.
Anyway, let's finish this off. I gotta go pee.
We are in the campaign, purely logistics-wise, but I'm always open to a conversation with Mike because he brings in
perspectives and insights, and I know that he has regrets about those comments as well.
Okay.
We're really out of time. Just before we finish,
Let's say you win the primary, you win the general, you are Governor Hong, day one, Wisconsin.
What is your number one progressive policy goal on day one as governor of Wisconsin?
A special session to pass common sense gun safety regulation.
So background checks, red flag, laws, and safe storage.
Neither are all bills that are ready to go, but the Republicans have never even given
a public hearing.
This is bipartisan legislation, common sense, gun safety regulations.
Wow, strong.
And last question, I have to ask you this.
On top of being the first Democratic Socialist government in the US,
you would also be the first female and first Asian American
governor of Wisconsin if you win.
How much would achieving that milestone mean to you?
Being the first means very little if you were the last.
It puts even more responsibility on building a movement, a broad, multiracial coalition,
to ensure that we have a Wisconsin where everyone feels as though it's a Wisconsin that belongs
to them.
It would be an honor and a responsibility.
Francesca Hong, thank you so much for your time, I appreciate it.
Thank you so much for having me, Mehdi.
Take care.
Thank you.
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bro, this guy's a fucking libel amount. Wait, Matthew Hassan, dude, that's so funny. Yes, he is.
Brand Defending Me, average Mike from PA fan, by the way. Yeah, I mean, look,
I think tackling the form is good. That's what Abdul does and I like the way he does it because there's no guarantee
There's no guarantee that that we're not gonna be embroiled in other controversies later down the line
You don't want to fucking turn around and and unconditionally offer full-blown loyalty and support to a guy like myself to a guy like Michael from
Pennsylvania even if we don't deserve the controversy it still doesn't matter
Right? These are fast-paced campaigns in a media environment that revolves around clipping and bad faith smears.
Okay? So I think tackling the form is the appropriate way to go.
Because you never know. I mean, look, I wore a fucking Chinese suit all of a sudden and it turned into a major issue.
Right? You never know. You don't want to come across like you're defending Maoism in Michigan, right?
Most people are going to look at you and be like, what the fuck is that? I don't understand.
So, that's my take. That's understandable. Of course, you're going to do that. What do
you mean? You're going to be like, this is a Twitch streamer, right?
Many people defend you on Twitter. No, that's for politicians. If you're in my community,
of course, you can offer proper context to people. That's normal. That's understandable.
I'm talking about like a politician that doesn't have the time to just like dial in and learn
about all the different fake quotes that people throw around, right? That's not my expectation,
because my expectation is politicians are not going to be in here every day, okay?
Maybe one day there will be a full-blown Hassan Abiyed there runs for office that could definitely
happen, but that day is not today.
Wait, what did you think about Sarah Homer's abysmal display on Fox News over the weekend?
I would love to hear your take on it.
I don't know what you're talking about.
As an oil bro of derogatory, these Europe people being slaves to American imperialism
will never not shock me.
Then again, as I said, I'm from the UK.
We're not better in any way.
Yeah, no.
Look, what actually confuses me about this process is like, these are events that are
unfolding. You can have a take on them.
It's normal, right?
Everybody has an opinion on what Americans are doing, what America is doing.
What I don't understand is why out of all the opinions you could choose, you're taking
the one that is like antithetical to your existence, antagonistic to your existence.
Why would you choose the one attitude that actually puts you in the cuck seat?
It's normal to have an opinion, it's normal to have takes, it's normal to disagree with my
opinion, it's normal to disagree with the American position. But what I don't understand is why you
You would actively, the DSA co-chair on Fox News talking about the positions of being
completely unprepared.
Um, I don't think that's the case.
I think people are being, uh, first of all, that's not Sarah Homer.
You're talking about Megan, uh, Megan Romer, I believe.
And secondly, you got a cool on that, okay?
She did, she did.
Okay.
of people just expect every person that is in DSA in any capacity to not only speak like Zoran,
but also have the same much more moderated positions of Zoran. That's not how this works.
Okay. That's not how this works at all. I don't even think that Megan and Zoran are even in
agreement on many of these issues. I think she's perfectly, she did perfectly fine.
You know, it's just DSA is a big tent organization. There's members on the left, members on the right,
members that disagree with one another all the time. It's a big, beautiful, complex process.
It's also known as democracy, right? Yeah, Megan is far more left-wing than Zoran is.
And these are results. You have to admit that Bulgarian Chateau within the perfect Janissary
Nitto currently occupies his country, yet he rides and dies for it. Yes. Yes, 100%.
Americans talk about liberating Eastern Europe, but they are utilizing the same tall boys
is in the exact same way that the Ottomans did, okay?
They're using them in the front lines.
They're using them as the American Janissaries.
And it makes me a little jealous
that America gets to do it as the son of Ottomans,
as an Ottoman son.
The South Carolina seat is lost.
What is this?
I can't understand how anyone claiming to fight for working people could hold and promote such ludicrous beliefs.
These beliefs don't reflect American values, and they certainly don't represent South Carolina.
If this is what the DSA stands for, it's completely un-American and un-hints as Dr. Annie Andrews.
This is the woman who's running against Lindsey Graham.
So I think this kind of stuff is very stupid.
It just makes you look weak.
That's it.
So, well, was running against Lindsey Graham.
Now running against possibly Lindsey Graham's sister, I apologize, Lindsey Graham is dead.
So here's the thing, here's the thing.
This kind of stuff makes everybody look weak, okay?
Do you see Republicans apologizing for the behavior of their right flank?
Has Lindsey Graham done that?
dead now. His sister. Well,
Lindsey Graham's sister do that.
Do you think? Do you think that
happens? Do you think that's a
thing that has ever happened?
No, it's not.
Let's continue. So, Jared Moskowitz dropping out of the debate, let's take a look, which
just dropped out of tonight's debate hosted by the Broward and Miami-Dade Democratic Black
caucuses. I will be there regardless, debating an empty lectern where Jared Moskowitz refuses
to stand, because unlike him, I will show up for each and every South Florida constituency
of voters that I'm seeking to represent in the United States Congress. And this is one
of the clear contrasts in our race. This is why the South Florida Sun Sentinel refused
to endorse Jared Moskowitz for the first time in any one of his previous campaigns for office,
stating that his unwillingness to engage me publicly shows an unwillingness to defend
his own record. A lack of respect for voters and that his lack of public town halls or
constituent engagement falls far short of what the people of South Florida deserve.
This is happening in a moment where Tallahassee Republicans and the Supreme Court are attacking
black political representation across our state of Florida and across the South.
I'm proud to stand with the Broward and Miami-Dade black caucuses and answer their questions
to respond to the concerns of black South Florida voters and any voters, which is why
we've been having public town halls, why we just launched our largest canvas of this
campaign over the weekend knocking on thousands of doors because I'm here to represent you
and I will continue to show up tonight and every single day through this primary election
and through November 3rd.
This is the representation that South Floridians deserve and we will continue to fight for
it.
Now to the Middle East where President Trump has stepped back from threats of a major escalation
in the fighting with Iran after nearly two weeks of bombing.
This comes amid reports that stockpiles of crucial U.S. weapons are running low.
Charlie Dagoda is in Jordan.
Charlie, good morning.
Good morning to Adriana.
On Friday night, there was every indication that the U.S. was preparing for a major attack.
even a return to full combat. Then President Trump met with military advisors. The plan
appears to be put on hold, apparently over concerns whether the military has enough
firepower to withstand the consequences.
After two straight weeks of nightly and escalating bombing campaigns by the U.S. military and
Iran's unrelenting retaliation, both sides came to an abrupt halt.
When Ambassador Mike Walts explained why to face the nation's Margaret Brennan.
It's giving diplomacy some space, it's giving diplomacy a little bit of time.
Of course the president tried diplomacy last year, he's tried it this year.
He is a president of peace, he is giving diplomacy a chance.
We'll see over the next coming days.
Sources in Iran and Oman tell CBS News there is progress to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
But the U.S. military has continued to pour more hardware into the region, including the
addition of the B-1 bombers, capable of carrying the fleet's biggest bombs and lots of them.
The U.S. blockade is also still firmly in place, Central Command releasing videos showing
U.S. forces boarding one vessel and disabling another.
But CBS News has learned that after nearly five months of fighting, the U.S. military
burning through munition stockpiles faster than they can be replenished, especially the
interceptors needed to take down Iranian missiles and drones, which may have forced the administration
to think twice about launching the massive attack President Trump threatened just last
week.
Pushback from Ambassador Walts.
I also want to address this nonsense that somehow we don't have the assets that we need.
not only do we
And in German, since they're asking God to replace the rapidly diminishing stockpile
of interceptors, maybe it'll work.
The problem is God might be Shia given the way given the way that this conflict has unfolded.
You know, maybe they should start doing the Yali chance instead, which is way more aura
in my opinion, so that they could actually have God replenish their diminishing interceptor
stockpiles potentially. Now, I'm of two different minds on this, because here's the thing. Here's
the thing. I'm of two different minds on this, because on the one hand, I do believe that America
has a finite supply and the procurement is approximately around like 90 tomahawks a year,
even with the increased productive capabilities with the Defense Production Act, which Donald
Trump called. And on the interceptor side, the numbers are even lower. You can make like
PAC-3 missiles. They're deploying PAC-2 missiles as well. They went back and put in orders for
PAC-2 missiles now, which are obviously less capable than the PAC-3 missiles. We've already
seen some of the PAC-3 missiles also fail at interceptions in Bahrain a couple of days ago.
a Patriot missile actually ended up falling and exploding on a residential neighborhood in Bahrain.
We don't know what the results of that look like. We don't know what the casualty numbers are because
countries in the Gulf are very protective. They don't have free speech. They will arrest you.
A friend of mine was literally arrested in Kuwait for reposting someone else's video
of an impact in Kuwait. So, we don't know what the actual damage looks like. We can only make an
assessment. However, what we can do is take a look at the American demands from Raytheon,
Lockheed Martin, and all these other defense contractors. And it's clear that they are
relying on pack twos because pack threes, they've stopped the shipment of, they've deferred.
So here's the thing, Patriot pack three missiles are costly. They're very expensive. Okay. Pack
two obviously has less capabilities. They've improved the capabilities of the pack two
they've upgraded them. However, these are very costly missiles. These are the interceptor
missiles that they're using. The way it goes is America launches standoff munitions like
Tomahawk missiles from afar because they can't drop unguided gravity bombs over the Iranian
airspace because they don't have full blown air superiority. So they use their standoff
munitions, and they've wasted their standoff munitions against Iranian targets, sometimes
military targets, oftentimes now civilian targets as well like bridges, the salination
plants, power plants, even sometimes refineries, and Iran in retaliation to that, turns around
and attacks the Gulf nations in a similar manner.
they're attacking the military installations in the Gulf, radar installations, early advanced
warning systems. Sometimes they hit US bases. In the early stages of Operation Epic Theory,
the Iranian targets were, the drone targets were sometimes the active duty service members.
But oftentimes they were just trying to blow up radar installations, make this as costly
as possible or shut off the American eyes and ears in the region to make it more difficult
for them to even defend Israel, right?
So they did that successfully.
And this time around, post-MOU, they're also increasing the collateral damage.
And they're actually targeting military hangers where active duty service members are, you
know, laying in, sleeping in, and they've actually killed a bunch of soldiers, right?
This presents a unique problem for Donald Trump because you can, you know, hide the
shame of losing a billion-dollar radar system.
But when American soldiers are coming back in flag-draped coffins, well, then that sets
up a unique PR problem, a unique PR crisis for every American government, including
the Trump administration, right?
So, while America is running out of interceptor missiles, they are now relying on older missiles,
have less success in interception. 18 troops have been killed so far. 624 troops have been
wounded since the U.S. launched its war against Iran on the 28th of February. These numbers
are not good, okay? They're devastating. This is a devastating number for the most superior
military on the planet, especially against the middle power like Iran. That's now becoming
a regional power. And these are the numbers that they have reported. So if you add on
contractors, which the military doesn't have any obligation to officially report on, the
numbers of casualties are probably far higher. Okay, this is the lowest. Just understand
that the numbers that CENTCOM openly admits to are always going to be the lowest numbers
possible, okay? So there's a real issue here. There's a real issue. There already was a
real issue because Iran is fighting back. Iran is fighting back by striking American
military bases, American assets in the region, American soldiers, and killing American soldiers.
the casualty numbers are increasing, this is a real problem.
And we know it's a real problem because it was destined to be a real problem before we
launched this military operation.
If you recall, I covered it at the time, the generals in the intelligence community made
their assessments.
They told Donald Trump that one, killing the leadership in Iran was not going to implement
regime change, that there was no aerial bombardment campaign that would be successful in implementing
a regime change. And two, if we were to engage in this battle at the behest of Israel, we would
destroy our standoff munitions stockpiles that we have developed for and that we've
of the we've procured for our peer and near peer adversaries, Russia and China. And then
on top of that, we would run out of interceptors, interceptors that we use to defend Israel
and interceptors that we use to defend our allies in the region, and not only just our
allies in the region, but also interceptors that we use to defend our assets in the region.
And that's where we're at now. This is not a new issue. This is something that I talked
about at the beginning of Operation Epstein Fury, if you recall, because when Trump clearly
didn't listen to his own generals, General Dan Cain, also known as Raisin Cain, very
clearly went to the media and leaked to the media that these would be imminent problems
if we actually launched this military quagmire. Okay? It's very clear.
It was Trump's own general that warned about this problem.
Sena Tusi from CI Policy says, the munitions issue isn't new. It was already evident during
last summer's war, particularly with FAD and Aero interceptors being depleted. These leaks
to Axios and other outlets, just as Trump backs off again, feel more like a convenient
explanation than the real reason. This round of fighting was arguably even less effective than
the last. U.S. air superiority appeared more constrained. Iran was moving launchers more
freely and launching missiles even in broad daylight. It doesn't seem many of its launchers
were even hit this time. And it continued operations even in Shurik right next to the
Shredov Hormuz despite repeated U.S. strikes. The fundamental problem remains the same.
Trump still has no viable military path to achieve his incoherent objectives.
So what were the objectives? The three top objectives have always been
in, what Israel wants America to do.
Number one was obviously regime change and creating a failed state in Iran.
You only achieved that by fomenting instability on the ground, beefing up sectarian conflict.
Iran's a very diverse country, destroying the Basij military outposts, destroying the
police precincts all around the country, and hoping that the people rise up.
you for met instability through economic warfare through the sanctions which america has been
doing for decades at this point people get pissed off people get frustrated they they
start protesting against the government first it was the bazaaries that protested against
the government which is the base of support for the irgc for the islamic republic and
then that protest explodes into a youth movement into you know it it takes on a a ethnic shape
as well in the Kurdish areas, okay, in the areas near Balochistan. But it didn't actually
work in that way. It didn't work in the way that the Americans and the Israelis predicted.
The IRGC was unbelievably forceful in their retaliation. They were incredibly ruthless
in their retaliation.
Lazareza, the base of support, I mean, part of it, yeah, it's not, what do you mean, small
business owners, would you not say that they are somewhat inside of the the the Shia base?
They are.
In any case, in any case, here's the thing, it failed. Partially, it failed because the
Iranian response was incredibly violent and incredibly forceful, and they were able to
destroy this protest movement. Part of the reason why they were able to destroy it was
because they were able to point to the Americans and the Israelis openly stating that they
were heavily involved in these protests.
Trump came out months after the fact and even said we were trying to arm the Kurds so we
could start a revolution in the country, all this stuff.
And I do believe that part of it was obviously organic, part of it was real instability in
the country and part of it was born out of the economic instability, the economic volatility.
And part of it was the forceful response that they wanted to create, the Americans and the
Israelis, wanted to create and bring about so that people would be even more frustrated.
People would be even more frustrated with the violence that they experienced when your
you know, family members die as they're out in the streets protesting,
you're more likely to take up arms against the government.
But what failed in the aftermath was the decapitation strike.
Okay. When America came in alongside the Israeli Air Force and
engaged in this ruthless first day bombing campaign amidst negotiations
an act of perfidy once again. What ended up happening, and they blew up the Menop School as well,
and they killed a bunch of little girls, go into school, 120 of them, okay? That, alongside the
martyrdom of the leadership structure, gave credence to the hardliners, the IRGC, the replacements,
Okay? They started getting to work with their mosaic structure, the decentralized defense
structure that they had implemented as a contingency plan for what was the inevitable
assassination of the entirety of the leadership of the IRGC and also the Islamic Republic,
including Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Iranians, of course, even those who were iffy or were critical over the administration,
recognized very quickly that the Americans and the Israelis were not there to help them.
Okay? They were not there to liberate them as it was presented by way of Saudi backed media,
by way of BBC Persia, by way of Western media that had certainly played a formative role in
establishing a base of resistance against the Islamic Republic.
But they realized very quickly that America had no investment in this. One of the key factors
was the Minab school bombing. The other one was hitting the refineries in Tehran.
When the black cloud was delivering ash rain upon the entire Iranian population in these
like major areas with a lot of population density, a lot of the people, a lot of the
young professionals, a lot of the college students very quickly realized that this was
only bringing about biological and ecological disaster. It was not liberation at all. You
You blow up Iranian cultural sites, you poison the water, you blow up the refineries, and
all of a sudden the people that would have made up the base of resistance that you need
because you can never do regime change without some kind of popular mobilization on the ground.
Even in Libya, you had popular mobilization on the ground, right?
You lost the Americans and the Israelis lost their popular base that they could have utilized
against the Islamic Republic.
This was another major failure.
And ever since then, this consistent tit for tat escalation ladder that America and Iran
has been engaging in has been a disaster because Iran turned around and closed the Shredda
Formos with relative ease.
cannot out organize topography and geography. Okay, Iran is mountainous. It's like a fortress.
And a lot of the munitions facilities, a lot of the missile silos are deep underground.
A lot of the production is deep underground. A lot of the missile launchers
are also inside of cave systems. So all you can do is basically shut off the entrance points
into these caves, but they have bulldozers waiting on the other side of those cave systems
that will quickly dig themselves out. So America was not even capable of attritting the Iranian
strikes. The Iranian temporary launchers, which are oftentimes just civilian trucks like K-trucks,
pickup trucks, and for their larger medium-range ballistics, they have these bigger trucks
that they, again, move out of the mountainside, move out of their tunnel systems when they
they want to strike, they wait it out to see if a Reaper drone will laser it,
and if they don't, they get back in the truck and they pull it back into those caverns. Okay?
So, this has been a spectacular failure because Iran has not only gained more leverage in the
process, unambiguously gained more leverage in the process, this economic nuclear weapon
closing off the Strait of Hormuz. But Iran has also been able to successfully destroy
many American installations in the region and made it very costly for Americans to continue
waging this war and not really giving up, not really falling apart. The regime is intact,
They're probably more aggressive than they were before, or at least like the moderates and the
reformists and people who have wanted to negotiate with the West have looked silly in the process,
because even in the negotiations process, the only way that they've been able to achieve some sort
of negotiation, the Iranians, I mean, they've only been able to achieve because of the military,
because of the IRGC's success of strikes and for all intents and purposes they've been working
in tandem with one another. There isn't a lot of chaos. America tries to make it seem like there's
a lot of chaos. America tries to make it seem like there's a lot of discontent amongst the
reformists and the hardliners, but there isn't. They're working in unison with one another. For
For all intents and purposes from our side, they're working with direct correspondence.
Because for Iran, they understand that this is an existential threat.
For America and Israel, it's just an enemy that must be vanquished, right?
So that Israel can continue its greater Israel project unimpeded without a major sovereign
uh... power in the region that has the striking capability so this goes back
to the goals
right so the number one goal was regime change
and and
perhaps turning iran into a failed state not dissimilar to levia
the second goal
for the american in the israeli side were to destroy the missile launching
capabilities
the iranian strike capabilities the iranian missile silos the iranian
uh... the the iranian in uh... industrial base that exists
in deep underground facilities they wanted to destroy it all
and that was also unsuccessful
as evidence by the fact that iran's striking capabilities have not been
treated at all
have not deteriorated at all and as a matter of fact there
they've only improved
their capabilities in the process because they successfully destroyed
american defenses
So that was the second problem, okay?
There was no way to do this
with the current American military capabilities.
The current Israeli military capabilities.
Part of that is because the Iranian side
has unique defenses, anti-air defense systems.
And they've been able to successfully
make it very costly to fly over the Iranian airspace to find strike sites that they can bomb,
and bomb successfully. The third point has always been the most bullshit point.
And it's the one that you hear the most, the Iranian nuclear program. Now, the reason why I
say it's the most bullshit point is because the Iranian nuclear program was never to develop
nuclear weapons. It was simply to gain leverage over the American negotiations so that you
can bring the Americans back to the negotiation table and demand complete sanctions relief.
If we're looking at three major points, number one was regime change and potentially creating
a failed state in Iran, destroying the Islamic Republic, and feeding into that sectarian conflict
that would be inevitable.
And that second goal was to successfully destroy the Iranian strike capability so that they
can no longer hit Israel.
maybe even the Gulf States as well in the region, which is even more difficult. Okay.
And the last goal, like I said, was the Iranian nuclear program. That one is the most bullshit
one, because Iran time and time again, has openly mentioned that they are perfectly
willing and perfectly capable to play ball with the Americans with the Western world,
Not just with the Western world, but even with the multilateral agreement that was put together,
the JCPOA, which was Obama's signature achievement, which of course the Israelis fucking hated,
right?
They signed all the agreements, they followed through on all the agreements, Donald Trump
came into power and immediately ripped apart the JCPOA at the behest of Israel.
The Iranians have always played ball.
As a matter of fact, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, a former supreme leader of Iran, had issued
a fatwa many years prior to the nuclear-grade enrichment of uranium, a fatwa against nuclear
arms.
This kind of stuff comes across as silly to us in the West, but it clearly matters.
It clearly matters to the Iranians.
Now we killed the guy who issued the FATWA, okay?
And I don't know if the new Iranian leadership is as unwilling to develop nuclear arms, I
don't know.
But what I will say is this, regardless of whether or not the Iranian leadership now
wants to develop nuclear weapons or not, is also irrelevant.
What is a FATWA? A FATWA is like an edict for those of you who don't know. It's like when the Pope issues a statement.
It becomes religious law, a decree.
So, it's a significant declaration. It's important. It's a religious ruling for all of the followers of the faith.
So, in any case, so we established that the third option, the nuclear or the third goal for the Iran, for the Israeli side and the American side,
America's side was also always bullshit. The reason why it was bullshit is because there's
no military solution to the enrichment of uranium inside of Iran. There's no solution
that is a military solution beyond boots on the ground, permanent military occupation
of Iran, which will be unbelievably costly and impossible, which will destroy the United
States of America regardless. Okay, that's a whole different story that I'm not even
to get into Iran as a nation with 93 million people in it. Iran has developed for the last
47 years their defenses against some kind of military occupation by the United States
of America. This is what the Islamic, the Iranian revolution was about. They care about
sovereignty above all else. And we're seeing the results of that.
But ultimately, the only solution, if you care about the nuclear program, the only solution
is diplomacy.
Diplomacy succeeded with Barack Obama.
But the reason why the Israelis keep using the nuclear program, and the reason why Trump
keeps leaning into the nuclear program is because you can see it as a poison pill, right?
You can if you have a much more hopeful perspective on it, on whether there is some sort of peaceable
solution to all of this, then it's the one that the Iranians are probably most likely
to agree to, because they've agreed to it in the past, okay? But they'll extract a lot of concessions
to agree to the, you know, non-nuclear proliferation agreement, okay?
But Americans are, if you want to look at it in a cynical framework, the Americans and the Israelis
are using that as a poison pill provision to be like oh we just they're still more nukes
they're still stop looking at the script so much there is no script I'm looking at chat
I do like that my commentary has gotten a lot sharper though because people are now saying
that I'm looking at a script that means the commentary is solid
But as I was saying, as I was saying, I forgot what I was saying, god damn it.
If the Americans are actually invested in the nuclearizing Iran or at least making sure
that Iran keeps up with only civilian-grade enriched uranium, okay? You know, you need
enriched uranium for certain things, you know, radiology, whatnot, right? But, um, if you
want to do that, if we want to do that for Iran, we have to give concessions to Iran.
doesn't want to do that. And because America doesn't want to do that, it finds itself further
and further deeply embedded in this conflict and this military quagmire. Because America
thinks still that there is some kind of military solution. There is no military solution. And
And the more we lean into the military solution that is impossible at this point, the more
leverage Iran gains.
And we saw this, we saw this pre-MOU, and we're seeing this post-MOU as well.
Pre-MOU, we went to the negotiations process because we needed respite.
We needed some kind of respite because the strategic petroleum reserves were getting
to critical levels.
I've talked about over and over again, you have 300 million barrels. If it reaches below 300
million barrels, if we reach 150 million barrels in the salt caverns, they collapse because there's
not enough pressure. Okay? So every day that goes on where the strait is still closed and America
has to tap into their strategic petroleum reserves is another day where we are nearing the critical
levels. Okay.
So the only thing the United States of America can do at this point is basically tuck tail
and run. And then turn around and say, we are sorry, Iran, you are controlling the straight
of Hormuz, we will come together and abide by some kind of international standard. Maybe
it'll resemble the Bosphorus deal that Turkey has, right?
Because for those of you who don't know, Turkey controls the Bosphorus. It's the entry pointed
to the Black Sea. And ships, like military ships, warships have a limited time that they
allowed inside of the Black Sea and they always have to be carried around by a Turkish ship,
but there's a lot of limitations. And also there's a payment that you,
that you give the Turkish government in order to go through the Bosphorus into the Black Sea or
out of the Black Sea. So I suspect, yeah, they have to be escorted. I suspect that
that the Omani-Iranian agreement will resemble something similar to that.
That is the best case scenario where everyone gets to transit the Shred of Hormuz, but
you pay some kind of, not toll, you don't want to call it a toll, obviously that's problematic,
But you pay some environmental fee, right?
A fee to maintain stability, a fee to manage the Strait of Hormuz, a service fee, a shipping
and handling fee, whatever you want to call it.
Iran has already said that they would call it an environmental remittance fee.
It's basically still a de facto toll.
Iran's not going to give that up because Iran has now found this leverage.
Why would they give it up?
Of course, they're not going to give it up.
Not paying the terrorists bomb them to hell.
Well, your idiocy, unfortunately, is how we got to this problem to begin with.
That's why we're in this current problem, right?
to hell. No fear of terrorists. I mean, we are the literal terrorists in this conversation.
This is another sovereign nation that we are waging battle with, and that's just not how
it goes, okay? With what? With what weapons, right? We've been doing that for almost, what,
four months now, five months now. We've been doing that exact thing, and the Strait is
still closed. So at some point you have to try something different, especially if the problem,
the global crisis on the energy markets is getting to a place where it's going to become
unmanageable. There are obviously compounding issues that will take shape once we start reaching
critical levels in our strategic petroleum reserves, we will have to cut our exports
to Europe and other markets that we're sending oil to right now. This is a global commodity for a
reason. It's one that has basically inelastic demand because without oil then you have no energy
grid in many countries. Without, you will have to significantly cut down on the demand artificially
by restricting workflows, by restricting your industrial output, there's already a restriction on
agricultural output to begin with because fertilizer is a necessary resource that also
comes out of the straight, right? You have no diesel, so you have no trucks. The rest of the
world slowly but surely turns into what we see in Cuba, okay? That's the problem.
That's the issue. The idea that we just don't pay the tariffs and keep bombing is exactly the same
idiotic mentality that has gotten us into this problem.
So, yeah, Joe Kent, former director of the National Counterterrorism Center says, if
nonproliferation was our goal, we foolishly sabotaged ourselves and our efforts to reach
it by killing the Atolla and attacking Iran. We showed that their strategy, not developing
a nuclear weapon and retaining the ability to enrich uranium, was not enough to deter
US aggression. Now swap Iran for North Korea. We have proven to the world that the only
thing that will prevent a US attack is a nuclear weapon. Here's the thing. Every country knows
this already. And it was already an L for Iran not to develop nuclear weapons immediately.
Every country, by the way, that has developed a nuclear weapon, with the exception of, I
Pakistan has started off with a civilian nuclear program. North Korea included. That's what the DPRK
initially said they were doing. We just have a civilian nuclear facility. It's just for civilian
use. And then, of course, they develop the enriched uranium for nuclear proliferation,
for nuclear arms. And then they also develop intercontinental ballistic missiles. And for the
record, it was the appropriate strategy. If you want to maintain sovereignty, if you want to be
a country that is intact, that's what you have to do. Pakistan is another example of this as well.
So if you want to maintain sovereignty in a nuclear world, you have to engage in nuclear
proliferation. And it was a major mistake for Iran not to develop nukes when they could have.
That's why North Korea is, you know, not bombed with regular frequency, whereas Iran is bombed all the time.
That's it.
So, North Korea, DPRK, they went up the steps.
First, their deterrence was their artillery program directed at Seoul, right?
That was a significant enough deterrent to not go back and wage war with the DPRK.
Then, it was their nuclear proliferation, then it was their intercontinental ballistic
missiles program, their delivery systems that they have for their nukes, okay?
Even now, they remain unbombed.
Nuclear weapons is not an offensive deterrence.
Yes, it's not, but it's a significant one to stop a foreign adversary like the United
States of America from attacking you.
Oahuas is a thousand kilometers away from the Shrait, the only reason the US is hitting
Oahuas is that its attack on Zartillery in Kuwait can reach it from there.
This also creates a sufficient response or a necessary response by the Iranian side that
is now entertaining boots on the ground military occupation of Kuwait for the record as a counter
strike. But yeah, the idea of like nuclear proliferation, we've pushed Iran into potentially
developing nuclear arms at this point. I don't know if they will follow through on it. But
as Merchheimer has said time and time again, the region would be far more stable if Iran
had nuclear weapons from the jump, I happen to agree with Mersheimer's analysis on this.
And Iran with nuclear weapons is a formidable opponent that you can't simply blow up.
Israel can't blow it up.
America can't blow it up.
There's a reason why two nuclear armed nations have not gone to war with one another, have
not engage in direct conflict with one another. At that point it's just proxies. All you can
do is deploy proxies. So we shall see. I guess the only example is India-Pakistan. Yeah.
Luckily, Donald Trump saved the world.
Donald Trump saved the world with India and Pakistan.
They were fighting against one another and Donald Trump came in and said no more.
The war has moderated Iran by far the most religious extremist opinion that Haman-e
held was that developing nuclear weapons was a sin regardless of the material impacts
of this decision.
Yeah, Iran's new leader is more open to pursuing nuclear weapon US intelligence, says, yeah,
no shit.
I know that New York Times and US intelligence reports a classic, misinfill combo, but I
feel like this was pretty obvious to any regular observer.
This is an inescapable fear that has stricken the US and Israeli leadership and will continue
to push Iran towards making it.
So it's ironic from the American-Israeli side that they had three major military goals here and they achieved none of them and as a matter of fact, they've only given Iran more leverage. So why do we keep bombing?
Well, part of the reason why we keep bombing is because we can't take a fucking L. Okay? We cannot take an L. Because if America takes an L here, it's over.
America comes to the recognition that it has lost this war. It has lost this battle.
But the reality is America has already lost this battle. So coming to that recognition
and dealing with Iran as a sovereign nation and releasing the sanctions on Iran,
no matter how much people yell at Trump domestically, is still the appropriate thing to do.
it's the right thing to do, it's the moral thing to do, and it's also the best strategic option.
If you wage war with a sovereign nation and they gain leverage, they maintain or develop and then
maintain their primacy over the strait of hormones. This incredibly important strait for not only
commerce but for the entire globe's energy markets
then you have to eat that out because every single day that goes on
where america continues this tit for tat bombing campaigns where
america blows up an iranian installation in iran turns around and retaliates by
uh... blowing up golf targets
the also along movement has joined the battle as well they're shutting down the
bobble monday straight
they're blowing up the yanbu port that saudi arabia needs to utilize
they they've blown up an aramco facility
the saudi aramco facility
that is engaging in oil refinery
uh... in an oil refinement
when that takes place
when that starts happening you you now are
are deteriorating or diminishing
the readily available
oil production permanently when they may be not permanently but at least
for a decade or so. So every day that goes on, the world is falling deeper and deeper
into this crisis. Here it is. Yeah, the Gizon refinery is on fire. This is according to
the NASA satellites. It's also on the ground of photography as well, on the ground photos
as well. And this means that the fire is spreading. About 40 hours ago, this is what the fire
looked like. Now it looks like this. It's from yesterday. There's also another component
here, where the Ukrainians have decided to go Houthi mode and say fuck it, make it a
world war. That's like a famous Houthi slogan for those of you who don't know, make it a
world war. Zelensky, the third worldist, has decided to throw his hat in the ring for some
fucking strange reason. Ukraine shot an Iranian commercial ship and killed a bunch of Iranian
sailors. Why is Ukraine doing this? Well, part of the reason why Ukraine is doing this is because
it's in Zelensky's calculation and Ukraine's best interest, I guess, from Zelensky's calculation
to operate as an American proxy in the region and try to get America to join the battle.
Okay. Here is Hamid Reza Aziz's take on this. Will Iran and Ukraine enter a direct conflict?
Ukraine's security service to SBU said on July 25th that Ukrainian forces struck an Iranian vessel
transporting military cargo between Iran and Russia in the Caspian Sea. Later, President
Volodymyr Zelensky said that Kiev's forces had achieved very good results from long-range
strikes in the waters of the Caspian Sea. Iran's foreign ministry said that the targets was a
commercial vessel, and that the attack had killed one sailor and injured another.
It warned Kyiv that it would bear responsibility for the consequences of the operation.
The episode has prompted a range of interpretations among Iranian experts and analysts.
Some believe that Ukraine's action was a part of an effort by Zelensky to demonstrate
both his capabilities and his value as a partner to the United States.
This is particularly relevant at a time when Trump is frustrated with Washington's NATO
allies for declining to support military operations against Iran or participate in the efforts
to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
The prevailing view, however, is that the operation could not have taken place without
at least a green light, if not direct guidance from the US and Ukraine's other Western partners.
It's not dissimilar to Ukraine's improved striking capabilities, improved pinpoint accuracy
on Russian tankers and Russian oil and gas refineries, critical energy infrastructure
that Ukraine has been able to successfully and successively hit, okay?
Ukraine is trying to make themselves a little bit more reliable as a partner and is willing
to expand the conflict or rather tie both of these somewhat separate conflicts to one
another and bring America into the fold in a more aggressive manner. That's what they're
trying to do.
Yeah. Mark Gaines says Zelensky knows that Ukraine's only path to victory is Russia is
direct NATO and US involvement. Biden reportedly used to complain about how Zelensky was trying
to suck the US into Ukraine, joining the US-Israel war on Iran as Ukraine's best shot at World
War Three. Tritopar says Ukraine is not trying to just enter the war with Iran. Rather, it
appears it is trying to merge the Ukraine war with the Iran war. I agree with this assessment.
Why? Because if these two wars merge, Ukraine will be a belligerent in the Iran war and
America will be a belligerent in the Ukraine war. That is, the US will no longer just be
arming Ukraine, but also actively and openly fighting against Russia with US personnel.
That is the key objective Zelensky has tried to achieve since 2022.
The only thing holding this back is, of course, nuclear conflict.
Do you think it'll work?
I don't know.
Because unfortunately for all of us, I have a policy of not making assessments, not conducting
analysis on the basis that world leaders are crazy.
But unfortunately, world leaders are fucking crazy.
Donald Trump is an insane person.
Vladimir Putin is an insane person.
And seemingly Zelensky is getting just as insane.
So it's very difficult.
It's very difficult to make this assessment,
to conduct sober analysis on events like this,
when the top minds that are making these decisions
are not listening to sober analysis.
Do I believe that Zelensky has military leadership
that's telling him this is a stupid idea?
Of course I do.
Same with Donald Trump.
We know that Donald Trump has the American intelligence community's own assessment that
told him this was a fucking stupid idea.
We know that Donald Trump had generals tell him in the room, this is a dumb fucking idea,
do not strike Iran.
We will deplete our interceptors, we will deplete our standoff munitions.
We will not be able to do anything against China in the future.
We will lose our deterrence.
That happened because Donald Trump decided to be the one American president that listened
the Israeli leadership that has been begging and agitating for this war against Iran for decades.
So that's where we're at. It's tough to make a prediction because, unfortunately,
American leadership and Russian leadership and even now Ukrainian leadership are behaving in
in this increasingly belligerent and increasingly insane manner.
Now notice how I don't say Iran is doing that because Iran is still very restrained.
Even in spite of the tit for tat back and forth strikes, Iran has been the most rational
actor in this conflict.
That's why they're a little bit easier to predict.
Even though their reliance on negotiating with the West has led to perfidy twice, so
I guess you could say that they are somewhat irrational in their behavior as well, in their
understanding of how the West operates, but now they're behaving in a more rational manner
by distrusting the West and refusing to negotiate with the West until they get some leverage
until they see some significant concessions. Anyway, on this base, one group argues that
the attack effectively reflects a NATO decision to participate more extensively in military
operations against Iran rather than acting directly. However, NATO members have assigned
the task to Ukraine, which has its own incentive to act against Iran because of Tehran's military
partnership with Russia. This argument has gained particular attention and light of
a recent statements by NATO Secretary General regarding member states' logistical support
for the U.S. military operations and the U.K. government's agreement to allow the U.S. military
to use British bases for operations against Iran. And Bulgaria's plans to host U.S. military
aircraft. There's that Bulgarian chatter Bulgaria mentioned.
Another group focuses less on NATO. Muslims can't be mad. Did I say that? There's a difference
being angry and giving into that anger. And there's a difference between still operating as a state in a more rational manner and a
matter that still leaves the option of negotiation.
Anyway,
another group focuses less on NATO and more on the United States and Israel,
as well as the military constraints facing both countries, they seek to expand the operations
against Iran. According to this interpretation, concerns about Iran's response to attacks on
its infrastructure and the possibility that Iran could retaliate by targeting regional
economic infrastructure have prompted Israel and the US to ask Ukraine to increase military
pressure on Iran from the north on their behalf. Under this scenario, Ukraine's next step could
involve using drones or missile strike Iranian infrastructure directly similar to the attacks
is carried out inside of Russia in recent weeks.
A third group of analysts point to the timing of the attack, which coincided with the renewed
escalation in conflict between the Houthis and Saudi Arabia.
Of course, this is also happening at the same time as Laura Loomer went to Ukraine famously.
Now, I know that sounds really stupid, because you're like, what the fuck is Laura Loomer
doing?
Who gives a shit about what Laura Loomer is doing?
signals to the Trump world, even though Laura Loomer doesn't have like a major stake in
this at all or doesn't have like a real popular base of support, Laura Loomer is an operative
on the ultra Zionist side that's in Trump's corner. You got Mark Levin, you got Laura
Loomer, you got Ben Shapiro. And Laura Loomer switch up on Ukraine after being a somewhat
uh... major advocate for russia if we're being real
the lower luma switch up on your cray signals something
it signals
that
uh... the pro-israel side
are going to welcome
uh... the the
uh... interventions liberal intellectuals lower luma's about face on
the ground is so courageous and admirable my world view is validated
luma i support you can be screen is
muslim fry and wider than russia yeah
Nicholas Kristoff said, I disagree with Laura Loomer on a thousand things, but I admire her willingness to rethink Ukraine and go there.
One of the things we pundits aren't good at is admitting when we're wrong. You're a fucking idiot, Nicholas Kristoff.
Okay, you're a fucking moron. Any liberal that thinks Laura Loomer actually is doing an about face is an absolute fucking moron.
She's doing this because she feels like this will create a tie-in between Ukraine and Iran.
Okay? Laura Lumer doesn't do anything because of a genuine belief, with the exception of maybe,
I guess, like defending Israel to the Hill. You are stupid for behaving in this gullible manner,
but I don't think these guys are gullible. I don't think these guys are gullible. I think these
guys are behaving as though this is a genuine change of attitude. Okay?
Laura Loomer is a psycho.
This to me shows that the FTD Mark Levin, Laura Loomer, Ben Shapiro contingency
in the Republican media ecosystem, have gotten their notes that in order for America to get more
involved in Iran in ways that they want, you have to tie it back to Ukraine. That's it.
Shabab Montefiore, I made a mistake. It's so rare for people to change their minds after
re-examining the evidence that it can be admirable when they admit mistakes, a secret trip that
turned Laura Loomer from Ukraine's skeptic to supporter. And she's been getting unbelievably
positive media coverage from PBS, Associated Press. Loomer had spent years minimizing Russia's
invasion of Ukraine and amplifying Russian propaganda to her nearly 2 million followers this
week. She had a change of heart. Peter Harrell, the way that Laura Loomer has come around on Ukraine
is a powerful reminder of the importance of being open to engaging with people you might profoundly
disagree with today.
That's it.
Her heart did not fucking change.
Okay?
You are stupid.
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson, I'm pro-Palestine, now CentresLiv's warranted.
This is so laughable.
How are leftists actually falling for this act?
Laura Loomer and Tim Pool, I'm pro-Ukraine, now CentresLiv's holy fuck.
If the American right now outflanks the American left on the issue of Ukraine, then it will
be an incredibly painful gut punch to the American left.
The Democrats really made a suicide pact by letting the DSA in, especially into anything
to do with foreign policy.
We are rehabilitating the image of fascists when it's very clear that these fascists,
they don't give a shit about Ukraine.
Some of them care about Israel, and they think bringing Ukraine into the fold in a more
meaningful way, will force the American NATO Atlantis' hands.
These guys are opportunists.
Don't praise Mel Hassan law.
According to this argument, Iran's indirect activation of Babel-Mandab front to increase
pressure on the United States has been met with an indirect American response.
In other words, the Caspian front together with the Indian Ocean, where the United States
imposed a maritime blockade on Iran is now intended to complete a ring of economic and
military pressure around the country. The validity of these interpretations will depend on whether
Ukraine carries out similar operations in the future or further expands the scope of its actions.
So far, remarks attributed to Ukraine's ambassador to Israel suggest that Kyiv
has decided to continue along this path.
Are they just stealing the outflank maneuver from the left on Israel? No.
I don't think these people care. I don't think these people care about, you know, outflanking the left on anything.
What you see is what you get. I'm telling you, it's, it's, these events are tied to one another.
Ukraine's actions of the Caspian Sea against Iran, expanding the theater of battle and bringing in Ukraine as a belligerent in the war.
or the Amer Israel war against Iran is tied to what Laura Loomer is doing here.
They want to merge these two battles together.
They want to merge these two wars together, okay?
That's it.
Another concern is that Ukrainian intelligence services may also become active in parallel,
supporting ethnic and surgical groups against Tehran through military training, logistical
assistance, and in particular the provision of drones.
Ukraine previously pursued a similar approach in Syria against the Assad regime.
For this reason, there is a degree of consensus in Tehran that Iran's response will determine
the trajectory of confrontation, and that a decisive response is required.
There is considerably less agreement, however, over the precise nature of that response.
believe that the least costly option would be to expand military cooperation with Russia. Yet
such a decision is unlikely to alter the balance significantly given Russia's own difficulties
in confronting Ukraine and Iran's military constraints amid the ongoing war. Others argue
that Iran should consider carrying out similar direct attacks against Ukraine-linked vessels in
other maritime areas or even launching direct missile strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure
if such operations continue. Such measures, however, could give NATO members a stronger
incentive to participate in military action against Iran.
At the political level, Iran could respond by recognizing Crimea and the Donbass as parts
of Russian territory, areas whose occupation by Russia Tehran has so far declined to endorse.
In any case, what is clear is that Iran's war is becoming increasingly intertwined with
two other conflicts of Saudi-Houthi confrontation and the Russia-Ukraine war.
With each passing day, the war is evolving into an increasingly complex, multi-dimensional
and international conflict.
You think Iran should respond?
We shall see how Iran operates.
Here CNN's coverage of Ukraine's attacks on Iranian ships.
Because diplomatic efforts appear to ramp up between the US and Iran, Tehran is now embroiled
in another.
She got a message.
She got a text message.
conflict. In a stunning development, Iran claims Ukraine attacked one of its vessels
in the Caspian Sea over the weekend. Now, Ukraine's president says drones targeted
several ships which were transporting military cargo from Iran to Russia. That's the story
out of Ukraine. Iran says at least one person was killed and three injured and is now threatening
Ukraine. This all comes as U.S. military operation. Iran's been involved with Russia-Ukraine
war for a long time, not to this degree. Iran has offered, by way of the Caspian Sea, munitions
and drones to Russia, especially early on. Russia now has its own domestic manufacturing,
obviously, of Shahid-style drones. But this is something that happened. Now, the difference
there, of course, is in exchange for that, Russia has offered Iran additional defenses
and things of that nature. However, Ukraine has escalated its involvement and is moving
into the realm of being a belligerent. For example, China offers components, doesn't
abide by any sort of blockade that the West wants to impose on Russia, but China doesn't
send troops into Ukraine, right?
China has not done that.
That would be a tremendous escalation.
Okay?
I love Iran activated Babo Mandev like there's no historical context.
It's just lazy and else from that guy Yemen has been siege for 11 years and Saudi started
bombing Yemeni airport.
Yes.
Yes.
We know.
We know why Yemen did what it did.
And that guy knows it, too.
It's not like he's oblivious, you're being unnecessarily triggered by his analysis for
some reason.
The Russians against Iran do appear to be on hold, but despite the U.S. signaling new
diplomatic efforts, Tehran insists Washington will not determine the timing of this war.
Look, from Europe.
Why?
Wait.
like, why is Iran helped out Russia? Because Russia gives Iran defenses. It's simple. There
is a coalition of unlikely partners that have basically been forced together to become allies
due to American intervention and Western imperialism. Okay? That's it. Countries that
have been in the crosshairs of the West have, you know, created allegiances. That's it.
Because at the end of the day, the goal of a sovereign nation is survival. You're not
going to turn around and be like, oh, I really don't like what Russia is doing in Ukraine.
I have to maintain some kind of moral purity. It's a purely cold and pragmatic approach.
The real interesting calculation here is what Russia has done consistently. There's always
been a limit to how much Russia will aid other countries that are in the axis of resistance
against Israel because Russia has its own ties, deep and embedded ties to Israel. That's
That's what's more interesting than the obvious choice for Iran, just like there's an obvious
choice for China, just like there's an obvious choice for the Democratic People's Republic
of Korea.
These are countries that have always been cast aside as foreign adversaries.
I think the much more interesting partnership is between Russia and Israel, even though
Russia as a regional actor that has its own investment in and its own
goals in the Middle East has has always been a funder and facilitator of some of the defenses
in Syria under Assad and and certainly with its defenses that it's given to Iran.
To the Gulf we aren't following all signs of this evolving story for you. Today we've got
what Claire Sebastian in London, Lady Jocos, is in Dubai.
And let's start, if we can, Claire,
with Iran's Foreign Minister, Abbas Al-Rachi,
warning that this incident in the Caspian Sea
cannot go unanswered.
What is going on there,
and why would Kiev risk getting mixed up in another conflict?
Yeah, Becky, I think it's a calculated risk for Ukraine here. I just want to be clear.
We're not 100% sure at this point what exactly happened. We have different accounts from
different sides. Ukraine says it hit cargo ships that were under international sanctions
as well as a sort of missile boat, a military ship. It's not saying which countries they
were flagged under or owned by. It's saying they were involved in transporting military
equipment between Iran and Russia, as were the exact words of President Zelensky, over
the weekend.
Iran, of course, on the other hand, is saying that one cargo ship, civilian cargo ship,
was hit and one seafarer was killed and several injured and the ship was on its way from
Russia to Iran.
So we have different accounts there.
But why would Ukraine take the risk here, I think, is a really big question.
On the one hand, the position of Zelensky is that Iran has effectively already attacked
Ukraine, through its supply to Russia of Shah-Hed drones, and then the subsequent licenses,
ballistic missiles also reported the – and so that is his sort of official position that
this is a legitimate target.
But I think the timing here is really interesting because, of course, Zelensky is now going
into this big diplomatic week.
He's in the UK today.
He's heading, we think, to Washington tomorrow to meet with President Trump.
And these strikes do allow him to sort of re-argue the prowess of Ukraine's deep strikes to
help with this narrative around the sort of patron-client relationship that we used to
have with Ukraine when it visited its Western allies towards the sort of mutuality of these
relationships. And of course, it helps bring Ukraine up the priority list, especially in
the eyes of President Trump, if he sees that Ukraine is not...
I mean, look, Zelensky is smart enough to recognize that in order to gain favor with
Trump, you got to play ball. And if the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, the
way to Donald Trump's heart comes from big yahoo. Not an accident that every Latin American
leader that has been elected far right fascists have immediately pledged fealty to the nation's
state of Israel. Okay, the fuck do you care about maintaining decent relations with Israel
if you're in South America, okay? Same goes for Zell Disney. He gets it. He understands
that in order to play the role of a loyal servant, the first goal that he had was to
send some of his drone specialists and like counter drone specialists to the Gulf region.
That was unfortunately too smart for the dumbass Americans, specifically Donald Trump to respond
positively to, and they also got fucking lasered by Iran regardless.
But that was unironically the smart thing to do, right?
He's like, we have a lot of experience with countering drone warfare.
We have a lot of, this is our specialty.
We can basically teach the golf region like how to beef up their defenses.
Donald Trump didn't really give a shit about that because he's a fucking idiot, okay?
Oh, what is going on? Okay, all right.
Not doing this old disney accent you change. I know anyway.
So what is this?
What is this conversation that, hey guys stop passing notes in class, okay?
Stop passing notes to one another in class. Classes in session.
So Zelensky came in and was like, we have a lot of experience with Russian drone warfare.
We have a lot of experience with like drone defenses. We can use that experience.
We can teach the Gulf nations how to defend themselves against the Shahad drones.
That was too smart for the Americas to comprehend, for Trump to give a shit about.
Then, Zelensky started striking with obviously NATO intelligence and the American go ahead
clearly, Russian critical oil and gas infrastructure.
And this gave Ukraine a lot of leverage.
Donald Trump likes winners at the end of the day.
So this made Donald Trump feel like Zelensky was a winner.
And he's just leaning into that now by trying to become more active in Israel's ambitions
against Iran.
It's that simple.
He is trying to get as much leverage as possible off of becoming a belligerent in the Iran
conflict.
And it doesn't necessarily matter what that does to the global theater of battle.
It ties the Russian and Ukrainian war, the Russian invasion of Ukraine with America and
Israel's war against Iran.
It will be devastating if America was forced into direct engagement with Russia.
I mean, you're now talking about two nuclear armed nations.
Fighting one another.
potentially able to help weaken Iran through strikes like this and also the danger of the
burgeoning military relationship between Russia and Iran and how that could affect the course
of the war with Iran. So I think all of that helps bolster those arguments for Zelensky.
This is really going to mess with the Palestine Ukraine flags in the bio people. No, it's not.
What do you mean? The people that put the Palestine flag in the Ukraine flag in their bio
fucking hate Iran. What are you talking about? They always talk about how
The Palestinians are fine as long as they're perfect victims. They hate any kind of Palestinian, any expression of Palestinian militant resistance. They oppose. They don't realize that, they don't realize that like they're backing as a battalion to the Hilton Ukraine, but they can't comprehend how, you know, there would be people who are Muslim, who might have more radical or more fundamentalist perspectives that happen to engage in a similar act of survival.
revival
So they're usually just NATO Atlantis is that have
You know some semblance of conscience about Palestinian civilians getting fucking ruthlessly murdered by the Israeli government
But ultimately they're still pro-nado
And and those are the those are the same guys that say I'm a fucking terrorist, you know what I mean
Going in to a critical diplomatic week and of course especially a critical meeting in
the White House.
And what do we understand happening in the Caspian Sea and how concerned should we be
at this point about this conflict, that between the US and Iran, expanding into a new front?
It certainly has all the characteristics that could happen.
The Caspian Sea, of course, has been used to connect Iran and Russia for a long time,
trading across it.
And what Iran is saying about this incident, they're saying that a ship that was coming
from Astrakhan at the northern end of the Caspian Sea was traveling carrying steel to
Iran.
Anzali was the port, Bandar Anzali at the southern end of the Caspian Sea, about 600
miles away, about a thousand kilometers.
And that's what the Iranians say was struck, a vessel simply coming from Russia to them,
carrying raw steel, and one person was killed and three were injured.
Now, President Zelensky, in Ukraine, his understanding of their strike, a Ukraine strike, is different.
He says that this was an Iranian ship, or a ship, bringing Iranian weapons to Russia.
And as we know, Russia has been using over the last more than four years Shahad and
other types of drones that have been made in Iran and supplied to Russia.
Russia's learnt from those drones, augmented them, supplemented them, but lent heavily
at times on Iran's support for weapons to be used in Ukraine.
So from President Zelensky's point of view, that was a legitimate target.
And the Ukrainians for about the past eight or nine months have been targeting Russian
facilities inside the Caspian Sea.
They've hit an oil terminal there as well as some other shipping.
But the crunch point of what you're saying here is, does this escalate the war?
If you listen to what Iranian leaders are saying, we've heard from the spokesman at
the Foreign Ministry in Tehran and other senior Iranian officials saying, Ukraine should
not expect to get away with this.
They should expect there to be a response.
One senior parliamentarian in Iran said, the US and Israel have learned that lesson.
So Iran is very clearly signalling that it would choose a military response to Ukraine.
And in that context, suddenly the war between the US and Iran and in the Gulf just bulls
westwards and has a whole other potential theater of military operation for the Iranians.
They haven't done anything yet, they're speaking about it.
In the past, when they've spoken about it, they do follow the equation.
Let's talk about the New Zelensky Factor, if you will.
Ukraine this week in attacking this Iranian vessel in the Caspian Sea.
This is a route for much of Iran's trade with Russia.
Iran responding with warnings.
The new one coming overnight from the Iranian regional governor is Ukraine too.
May soon come to understand that Iran does not let actions go unanswered.
What does this do?
Okay, this is, first of all, let's like step way back.
Iran has been supporting Russia in its war against Ukraine directly.
They provide Shahid drones.
provide technology. Russia now has a factory producing these Iranian shothead drones, which
allows Iran to prosecute its war. This has been going on for years.
And Zelensky, about three days ago, said that the Ukrainians struck a ship in the Caspian
Sea carrying military material between Russia and Iran. Iran is now claiming that this is
basically an act of war, and Iran is now threatening to attack Ukraine. So this is how these two
two storylines are coming together but the cooperation between Russia and
and uh...
and ron has been going on for some time
but this will be a topic in the oval office was a list he meets with
president trump
totally different dynamic
then that infamous meeting about eighteen months ago
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it was the upper hand
there's a sanctions bill pending still in the senate
and uh...
and so let's keep coming with some cards
so let's get a crazy military political elites have been lobbying for
years to be the next israel for u.s. empire their huge benefits for the
cranes elites if this comes to pass every instrument proxy bombing around
as a golden opportunity to prove their
israeli worth
i just don't think it's ever gonna happen though
there's no there's no ukrainian lobby
There's no country that will ever be like Israel. Okay?
And any country that thinks they will be like Israel will be relegated to the
gulf nation status. Okay. That's it.
Countries that think they can be like Israel will fall by the wayside.
They will experience the same fate that the gulf nations are experiencing
currently,
especially considering that the gulf nations have a lot more money,
a lot more money than Israel has.
The Gulf nations also have oil, okay, the petrodollar. And even then, the Gulf nations
have never reached the standard of Israel, okay? The United Arab Emirates is seeing that firsthand.
That's it.
But when people say why, or when people ask the question why, it's very simple.
Israel is a hand over colonial outpost from the British, a much longer bandwidth of servitude
than any other country can develop, okay?
Not thick and thin. Israel has been the most reliable Cold War ally. Israel has done so
much more than all these other countries. Israel has always been the most reliable ally.
So when Americans say that, when, you know, the boomers say that especially, they're not
technically wrong. It's not currently, and it's burning all of the goodwill that it
developed over the course of the last 80 years. But the only reason why Israel has been able to
get away with doing horrible shit, even blowing up US as liberty, for example, is both for that
reason and that reason has allowed Israel to have an insane network of influence peddling,
a very sophisticated media organ that operates inside of both the United States of America
and many other Western countries.
And that has solidified, that Zionist indoctrination has basically solidified unlimited support.
Okay?
And to different audiences, Israel plays a very different role.
No one else can do this.
There's no white evangelical Protestant movement that will create a theological justification
for why we must back the Orthodox Church to the hilt. This just doesn't work that way.
It does not work that way at all. We will never trust the Muslims, who we still remember,
the oil shock. Okay? We will never trust the Muslims to the same degree as we trust Israel.
And we will never trust Ukraine to the same degree that we trust Israel. Israel gets to
violate all norms all the fucking time because it's burning the the social and
political capital it has developed over 80 fucking years. If American foreign
policy was actually based in realpolitik then it's number one ally in the Middle
East should obviously be Saudi Arabia and Israel yes yes 100% it's not based in
re-apolitique. The Gulf, they literally destroyed Kuwait's energy and water
plants and airports, etc. Yeah, oh, Qatar has been hit the hardest. No, it hasn't.
It's true. Sorry, Kat is correct. Think about Russia didn't get to be USA's
Israel after the USSR fell. Why the hell does Ukraine think this is possible?
Yeah, it's just it's foolhardy. It's stupid. No one will ever be America's Israel only Israel will ever get to be America's Israel
And Israel will never allow another Israel to exist. That's the other I mean look at NATO look at Turkey
Why do you think Benjamin and Yahoo and its fucking 18 front war that it's conducting currently is now putting the crosshairs on?
America's largest NATO partner a
country that has American nuclear arsenal
uh... american nuclear weapons inside of american military bases
taiwan will never come near the level of importance of israel there's no proxy
that the united states of america cares about uh... to the same degree as israel
There's no comparison. There's no Taiwan lobby that comes close to the Israel lobby. Same with Ukraine. Same with the Gulf.
It doesn't matter how much money these countries have. It doesn't matter how many lives they throw in the direction of America's military ambitions.
It's never going to happen.
but he is he's saying he's going to
lay out for the president his information
on what russia is doing to actually support iran in his conflict against us
so this is how these two strands come together
the cooperation between russia iran and china is a larger backdrop to everything
we're talking about uh... day by day here kate
and uh... that would be very important meeting in the oval office this week
yeah i mean do you call me see story lines in two strands coming together it's
like how much closer do these tour two wars come to each other uh... visit
Bennett said Monday that if he returns to premiership this fall, he will declare a cutter and enemy
state and accuse Doha of funding around the Islamic Revolution or guard corps.
Seems like Israelis would like to reserve the right to bomb Doha as desired.
That's awesome.
And America will let it happen too.
Cucks.
You guys have to understand, I mean, Brent McGurk is a great example of this.
There is no Brett McGurk equivalent for Ukraine, okay?
A lot of people will turn around and say, oh, this is ethnic.
This is ethnic tribalism.
It's ethnic tribalistic policies.
These are Jews in high places.
That's the reason why we have so much loyalty.
Okay, Brett McGurk is a great example of how wrong you are with that position, okay?
Surely, you can talk about the Zionist indoctrination and the financial entanglements that does
play a formative role, but you can't explain Joe Biden that way. He's a fucking Catholic.
You can't explain Brett McGurk that way. The only way you can explain it is the importance
of the Israel lobby and why the Israel lobby was allowed to exist on US soil and operate
in the ways that it does, operate in the ways that it has. Okay. For years and years Israel
was allowed to propagandize to the American base and make itself an irreplaceable part
of not only American foreign policy, but also domestic policy as well, okay?
You can Zionism is not only Jewish. No, I know that. There's never been a point in history
ever where the number of Christians Zionists were not far greater, far larger than the
of Jewish Zionists that has never existed. There has never been a point in time where the number
of Jewish Zionists was higher than the number of Christian Zionists, never, from its inception.
Okay?
So, yes, Zionism can be seen in its expression as a Jewish thing, right? And it's propped up
by a lot of Jewish institutions, Jewish organizations, this is true, but ultimately,
its backbone still always has been and always will be the Christian Zionist movement.
Okay, for some it's a theological justification, the evangelical protestants, and for others,
it's Zionist indoctrination, but ultimately, ultimately, for one reason or another,
American leadership have always backed Israel to the hill. Okay, there have been times when
when they've demanded restraint from their Israeli counterparts, and Israel is of course
always played ball. But ultimately, for one reason or another, there's never been as
critical of a, as Israel critical of a American leadership as like the Barack Obama leadership.
Okay, this week that is the maximum level of of Israel critique allowed from the American
government. Anyway, uh, Donnie is, uh, releasing a trailer of, uh, the, the documentary on
your boy. We've spent the past six months traveling the country for on the rise of and
resistance to democratic socialism in the democratic party. This week, don't your Sullivan
dives into the world of the progressive left. Are you concerned that you might end up hurting
the Democrats in a general election. The whole story with Anderson Cooper, Sunday at 8 on CNN.
It's coming out. Yes, there's going to be a lot of, I mean, look,
I don't know the details of how this got released, but I'm shocked that it's fucking released at all.
Obviously, Donnie has gotten unprecedented access, deep access from the start because
he's followed my journey along for the past couple of years, not just the last six months.
The last six months is just the tip of the iceberg, right?
But you know, this is Donnie's piece de resistance is last.
Are you concerned about the edit?
The edit will be unfavorable to me.
There's a 0% chance that it'll be favorable, but we'll see.
We'll see how it goes.
There is no CNN editing that gets released that makes me look good.
Let's be fucking real.
From Hasan Mahan, David Hogg, James Carvel, Representative Josh Gottheimer, a third-way
tweet, we spoke to Democrats across the board, along with the DCKNs like Daria Lisa and Claire.
great insights from the crooked media guys, John Favreau, John Lovett, Tommy Vitor too.
Tony has no say over the editing. I mean, I think the editorial direction is still absolutely
dictated by CNN executives who will do everything in their power to present opposition to the
left insurgency as a reasonable critique. Come on. But we take it. We take those. We
take whatever we can get. It's a big platform. It'll be good documentary. It'll reach a lot
of audiences. Don't trust Dony. He put a mic on you and disappeared hoping for a hot mic
moment twice. It doesn't matter. I don't say anything. I don't say anything off camera
that I, uh, that I refuse to say on camera is everything I say on camera is the same as everything
everything I say off camera. Unless he puts a long and extended piss sequence like Adam
Friedland did, there's not going to be any hot mic moments. My hot mic moments are on
stream in front of all of you.
The U.S. has been wedging a legal wasteful and immoral war on Iran and our cable news
pundits keep talking about it like a souffle that sadly didn't rise.
Anyway, I forgot to mention the other side of this story about munitions stocks.
the other side of the story. Why is the media covering it so forcefully? Something doesn't add up.
Because the American media plays ball with the national security goals. So I don't know what
the change of heart is here. I mean, they've obviously covered the munitions stockpiles
eroding over and over again. But why are they getting higher profile naysayers now?
That I don't know. That confuses me a little bit. Do I, on the one hand,
believe that the American interceptor munitions are diminished? Absolutely.
I just don't understand why Trump is refusing to boulder through it in the hard-headed manner
that he normally does and decide, fuck it, we're still going.
Perhaps it could play a role in the additional budgetary demands that Pete Hegseth has brought
in front of Congress, right? That could be part of the reason, I don't know. But it
is, it does strike me as odd. It's the launder the big fat cheque, they're about to send
the Pentagon, yeah, I could see that.
Aaron Blake, senior political reporter at CNN, formerly of The Washington Post says,
The Trump administration is saying a lot of confusing things about our munitions stockpile.
The truth could be pivotal, not just for the Iran war, but what comes afterward.
So now the story is about the story on the munitions stockpile, it seems.
The whole entire war has been a laundering scheme.
Of course, they have the Launder of the Dam.
to launder the damn money? Yes, because the load of bullshit? No, I don't think it's a
load of bullshit. I think it's real. I think the munitions stockpiled depleting is very
real. That's not, that's not a load of bullshit at all. If that wasn't the case, they would
not have started allowing some Iranian missiles to hit American targets. They have to keep
up. They would have just kept up. If they, there is no world, there is no world where
the American military allows some Iranian ballistic munitions to kill American soldiers.
Okay. That doesn't happen. The only reason why they're doing that is because they have to be a lot
more, a lot more economic with the, with what remains of their interceptor stockpile.
Trillion dollar budget isn't to build missiles, it's to build McMansions for Lockheedies X and Dulles. I mean, true.
You're not wrong.
But ultimately,
ultimately, what we're talking about is, is, you know, battle lines. Doesn't fucking matter.
You understand?
If we're talking about this conflict, it doesn't matter.
The defense contractor bloat doesn't matter.
It's an issue, but it's inconsequential because it won't change.
Like a hope in a dream or additional procurement demands are not going to materialize ballistic
munitions and materialize PAC-3s and PAC-2s, many of the PAC-3s which we defer transferred
to countries like Switzerland and numerous other American security contract nations
so that we could express ship into the Gulf region, that's not going to make up for it.
Okay, you can't just like materialize, intercept their missiles out of thin air.
What you can do is take the earlier systems, the PAC-2s, that have not really been used
since the 90s, I think, and retrofit them, try to make them, you know, try to improve
their guidance systems and then use those missiles in order to make up for the deteriorating
munition stockpiles that we have already.
For the average American, of course, this means no social safety nets.
What remains of the already diminishing social safety nets will go away.
Obviously, we got to spend our money on endless war.
And we got to do everything in our power to stop people from advancing an alternative
strategy, one that says we have to be more restrained around the globe.
We have to stop our ceaseless bloodshed, our war machine, and folks on ourselves build
our rows, build our potholes, build our infrastructure and give people fucking health care. You know,
people who say stuff like that, we've got to make sure that they are never allowed anywhere near power.
Fox News is saying Americans should just eat it. Here's Mike Thiessen, who has been fucking
losing his goddamn mind over this. He's another major warmonger. Here's what his message was
on Fox News.
But if we can't handle $4 oil for a period of months in order to just armor on a nuclear
weapon, we're not a superpower anymore.
Yeah, but there are a lot of Americans who their kitchen table issues matter to them
more than foreign policy.
But I wanted to ask that sort of.
Yeah, suck it the fuck up.
Suck it the fuck up Americans.
Shut the fuck up.
Oh, you got problems with $4 gas.
my dick. We have to, we have to maintain American supremacy. We have to maintain Israeli supremacy.
You will eat the bugs and you will like it. That's, that's Mark Tyson's attitude is that's
his approach. Great message. No, keep, keep, keep increasing the contradictions. Make it
so that every American, no matter where they live, no matter how out of touch they are,
make every American realize what the domestic consequences are for the endless American
war machine. Go ahead.
By far, we have the greatest people. We have the world. By far, we have the greatest people.
We have the best equipment in the world. I built it during my first term, and I'm using
it now, we had no choice. Again, we can't let what was happening in Venezuela go on.
And it was very decisive, but we can't let what was and is going on, they killed 52,000
protesters, think of it in a form of very poor, 52,000.
Why does nobody ever ask Trump where he's getting these numbers from and why he keeps
changing the numbers?
Every other week is a larger number. Also, why does nobody ever ask Trump, like, why
Why do you think blowing up and killing more Iranian civilians is somehow helping liberate
the Iranian population?
Iran has developed a nuclear weapon that only kills Iranian civilians.
They deployed it.
They killed 90 million Iranians in one day.
Not a single building was blown up, but 93 million Iranians died overnight.
There's only one million Iranians that remain on Iranian soil.
In Iran, but we've already paid for the Venezuelan operation, as I said, and likewise we're winning
big time with the Islamic Republic of Iran, and we're ensuring that they never have a
nuclear weapon when somebody comes up and says why are we doing this just say
because we cannot let them have a nuclear that's not funny my mother died
doing Iranian nuke I apologize RIP to your mom
it's very simple so you have to say there's nothing else yeah actually he said it was
80,000 then 40,000 now it's 52,000 yeah he's just like you know slicing it off
finding the middle number if you understood the power of the nuclear
weapons. You'd understand exactly what I was saying. World by far, we have the greatest
people. We have the best, yeah, this is a brilliant message. By the way, um, yeah, Mark Tyson
says there's an op to stop Trump from returning to major combat with dangerous leagues. Disgraceful
that people are trying to box it in an extremely harmful to national security. Ben Shapiro
said something similar, Americana. It's telling the truth about munition stocks to prevent
compromising national defense for years to come for no tangible benefit treasonous lying
about the achievability of war aims to suck the country into an unwinnable conflict with
the benefit of Israel regrettably necessary.
Man who said there was no downside demands arrest of those who are pointing out downside.
Yeah, there is no US downside as striking the Iranian regime he said in January 14.
The Iran should not expect Trump to repeat Obama's mistakes.
Now, everyone that brings up the downsides must be jailed.
It's treason.
There's also, obviously, the other side of the story, Ben Shapiro.
I covered it as well.
Ben Shapiro, when you're leaking falsely, according to President Trump, to CNN and New
York Times and Barack Revere, that we're short on interceptors, you're helping Iran.
Trump must track down and fire the leakers in this administration and continue to undermine
his pursuit of America's interests.
So here's what doesn't make sense about this.
I mean, nothing makes sense about this other than Ben Shapiro's Israel first, right?
Ben Shapiro's Israel first. But the reason why this doesn't make sense is because if it is a lie,
and the American interceptors are, you know, our interceptor stockpiles are perfectly intact,
okay? If that's the case, then why are you crying about it? This is obviously a gambit
from america this is obviously america lying to the iranian side to be like oh no
please we don't have any interceptors remaining boom all of a sudden they're gonna do a trick attack
or something okay but if it's true and you're leaking this information then yeah you're doing it
for a a clear purpose which is to try to pressure trump by way of the public into not
furthering this conflict and and continuing to give Iran even more leverage
Why does ben want america to fight undefended sounds pretty anti-american to me benjamin shipy
Uh, he does not care. He just wants he doesn't give a shit about what happens to the gulf
He doesn't give a shit about what happens uh with iranian retaliation. He just wants america to continue pummeling iran
That's it. He's he's seen red. He's got bloodlust
Dammit, Asan is just leaning into the bit you fucking suck at improv bro. Come on. Oh, that's what it is
Even if you're just looking at better negotiated off-ramp here, leaking that America doesn't have the military arsenal to keep up the fight
Destroyers all negotiating position fire the leakers today. Anyone who opposed that obvious position gives away the game. Yeah, yeah
Yeah, he then tries to like package this is like oh, you're you know ruining the negotiations to which I responded with here
Here is the initial leaker of interceptor shortages before Operation Epstein Fury began.
Everyone but the American public is aware this is happening.
Ben is mad because it makes it harder to convince the US to fight Israel's war against Iran.
That's it.
These leaks are not coming from like peaceniks in the American Department of War.
These leaks are literally coming from.
These leaks are coming from high level military officials, okay?
These are not leaks.
These are warnings to Donald Trump because Donald Trump's not listening to them in the
room.
And they've been doing this since before Operation Epic Fury began.
It's so fucking stupid.
Ben, the Air Force just raised the enlistment age to 42.
You have six months to sign up so you can join the war effort.
You love so much.
Yeah.
Yeah, send send
Send Benny boy to the front lines. What are we doing? Send as many gold to the front lines, okay?
Why are we sending random motherfuckers from Iowa to the front lines that die under Iranian munitions ballistic munitions in
In bases that are left undefended because our interceptor stockpile is diminished send as many gold to the front line
Send Baron to the front line send Kai Trump to the front line
Send the boys and girls that want to wage this fucking war. Send their children to the front lines. That's it
Perhaps then
The calculation will be a lot different for the likes of Ben Shapiro
out.
People are telling me, why don't we give peace one more chance?
So I guess they're back to talk.
So now here's, this is awesome.
Jesse Waters trying to navigate around the toll, not being a real toll.
I love this.
What the talks are about.
A toll is not a toll.
A toll can be a service fee, like the Strait of Malacca.
They want to make that the Strait of Hormuz.
So Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, they do like an environmental service fee for a few
boats.
It's not like a blanket toll, but at least it would make...
How dare you talk about the Strait of Malacca?
How dare you, Jesse?
You are now my official op.
You and M. Pregasus.
You and more Pegaslop.
are my two major ops now. You just, you just, you never talk about the Strait of Malacca.
The Strait of Malacca must always remain open. You have gone too far, sir. How dare you?
We must let commerce flow through the Singaporean ports. Singapore more like Singaporean rich.
the Iranians save face. Now, while we talk, we're still bringing back a lot of
firepower and some special operators are now in theater. So that'll be interesting.
We had Kellogg on the other day and he said, you know what happens, Jesse,
when you play sports, you let a team hang around a little too long and then
something happens, ball bounces differently. Maybe someone gets hurt.
The next thing you know, you're like, well,
that's why you think you got to finish people off and you got to finish them off
quickly. Luckily, polling that says Republicans are trusted more on Iran than Democrats. And
oil has now come from $187 a barrel, which is great. But you should be sucking the Chinese
party of communism, the Communist Party of China every damn day of the week, by the way,
Every day of the week, you should be praying to the altar of Xi Jinping for normalizing
prices, for genuinely cutting their demand by almost half, bailing out the US once again.
Okay?
You should have an altar to Xi Jinping that you pray to every morning, that you kiss his
feet every fucking morning.
Why do they bail the U.S. out? Because U.S. is the hegemon.
And China must let commerce flow. It is the most pro import, export nation on the planet.
Well, specifically export nation on the planet. If China allows the oil prices, the price
of oil barrel to go up for Brent crude to go up for without cutting its, cutting its
demand, well, not even its demand necessarily, but cutting its imports of oil, then all of
the other trade partners that it has in its own backyard in the Asian markets are going
to collapse.
This would lead to a collapse of Chinese trade, which has to continue.
What is this?
woman mentioned? What? I don't care about this. She's a psycho. Who cares?
A senior source told Al-Adubiya that China and coordination with Pakistan is conducting
diplomatic contacts aimed at reducing tensions between the United States and Iran. According
to the source, Beijing is exploring reciprocal confidence-building measures and is seeking
to prepare the ground for U.S.-Iran talks on regional security.
China also wants Gulf states and other regional powers involved in supporting a framework
for long-term stability, if confirmed.
This suggests an increasingly coordinated China-Pakistan diplomatic track with Islamabad
acting as a regional facilitator and Beijing providing the broader political umbrella.
Why did Pakistan become the table?
Because Turkey fucked up.
Okay, Turkey fucked up. Let's be real. Turkey is too much of a dog of the West. And while
Erdogan has been, you know, fairly reliable in terms of leaning into Russia, while simultaneously
being a reliable NATO ally, a NATO partner, Erdogan has never had the same investment
in playing both sides when it comes to China and the United States.
This is the reason why Pakistan is in the bad. Pakistan is the table, okay. Islamabad
is now the table and Istanbul is no longer the table. Turkey is no longer even the chair.
Pakistan on the other hand is basically China's little Israel in some respects and therefore
can now play the role of the table. From Islamabad to Islamagood.
That's it.
Trump restarted the war because he wanted to ship the abandoned Iran's designated route
through Hormuz for the US back route. Weeks later, after major escalation and break going
back about $100, every transiting vessel is using Iran's designated route. None are
are using the Omani route. Almost all of us crossing the Shredda Hormuz over the past
three days have used the route designated by Iran, with none recorded using the southern
route near Oman's coast, promoted by the U.S. Accordion and Shipping Intelligence Group's
group Marisks.
None that were detected that is, I mean, sure.
I think there's approximately like four or five ships that turn off their transponders and are able to to pass through.
But the risk is far too high for them. And that's not enough to make up for the
additional, that's not enough to make up for the demand.
What is this? She wiped the floor with his raggedy ass on the radio last week.
Now he's scared. Oh my god a second pullout from the debate update. Our team
received a call this morning from Wuzzy Bell's team regretfully canceling his
tennis this evening. Oh my God. The play is always the same, dude. They have unlimited
Israel dollars. So they don't feel the need to actually give the voters a debate. A pack
candidates pulling out of any kind of contest. This video got 3 million views talking about
how China saved the world. I know, I know Max Fisher did China quietly saved the world
last month. It got 3.4 million views, which is crazy because I covered it too and my videos
get 100,000 views max, okay?
Is wild.
L for me.
L for me.
No other way to look at it.
When I talk about it, when I talk about it, it means nothing, okay?
Nobody gives a shit.
Benjamin Nenow is a workaholist 65,000 views, that's crazy.
Yeah, cause you don't have a corkboard, it's true.
Jesus Christ, the view count disparity, I didn't even realize how bad it is, look at this.
YouTube just fucking clamps down on shit.
It's pretty wild.
All the ice videos do horrible. What the fuck?
YouTube algo is geared towards drama, I know.
The worst is the interviews. Canada interviews do so poorly. It sucks.
YouTube is trash, bro. Yeah, I mean, I don't really care. I'll still do it,
obviously, no matter what happens. But David Pakman's brother runs Trust in
Safety over at Google. You're cooked. Wait, really? He used to work at the ADL.
Yeah, he got hired after he left ADL, that's wild.
Yeah YouTube suppresses or on BB video it's very clear this one did unbelievable numbers
on TikTok it did unbelievable numbers on Instagram but on YouTube it got 65,000 views
This is crazy.
You should use the whiteboard more. True.
Zoran's own vid got suppressed on youtube yeah instagram 70 million views twitter 53 million views tiktok 60 million views youtube 1.7 million views
yeah i think youtube is definitely suppressing the the
um youtube is definitely suppressing i mean look at look at my performance on my video of his
is crazy. Do you think streaming every day, every single day hinders your YouTube growth?
Yes. You're short on it, got 400K views? Yeah, we do a lot of shorts. Our shorts do pretty
well. I am a conservative 600K views arm of Donnie on Netanyahu, Tiktoker Styles my wardrobe.
I'm liberal except for Palestine. I mean, the shorts do very well. The shorts do very,
very well. Let's speak titles on YouTube when what's
lead speak titles? And why not stream less if you care about growth? Because I care about
Managing a community on this live stream on this live broadcast, and that's how we do it
This is the most impact that I see this is the most impact that I that I have
It's like reach is important, but what's also important is impact
Because you can get if I were to if I were to do video essays, you know once a week or something
Yeah, I would probably a crew
Piker challenges, Hannity to book him for appearance.
Shreemer is on Piker's challenge, Fox News host Sean Hannity, have him on for a debate.
It's true facts here.
Posts clip to Sean.
Why won't Sean Hannity have me on the discusses of, he said he was supposed to.
And instead, he chose not to have me on and talk about me instead.
Piker said during a recent stream, it's very interesting, what are you afraid of, Sean?
We could discourse back and forth on this issue, whatever issue you want to talk about.
The leveling media personnel change challenge came out days after Sean Hannity attacked
Piker during an episode of a show criticizing, praising former chair of the Chinese Communist
Party, Mao Zedong.
This is what radical democratic socialists want to bring to America.
Hannity warned his audience.
They don't love this country.
The Fox News has continued.
Referring to Piker as one of the Democrats' core leaders, Piker is a former punitive
with a left-wing media outlet The Young Turks, who has grown a significant following among
liberals with streams during which he discusses party politics and hot-bun political issues.
He's now spoken critic of Israel, President Trump, and much of the agenda of the political
right.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah. Hopefully this will apply some pressure. Didn't he invite you first? Yeah, he did. He did.
The Kato Institute wrote a piece about you libertarians use Sampagor's phrase in Mao Zedong to educate the youth about socialism. Yeah, it's sad because, you know,
The Kato Institute are reliable allies when it comes to the barrage of anti-migrant reactionary
white nativist anti-immigrant talking points.
Sad to see the homies.
Anyway, as far as the the the approvals goes, by the way, support for the Iran war is waning
among Trump's MAGA base. Here are the share of Trump voters who self-identifies MAGA and
whether they think the US should or should not continue his involvement in Iran.
Piker loves the CCP. Oh yeah, Vox did it too, I know.
Why the right is freaking out about third worldism? Conservatives are ginning up a familiar panic
about subversive leftists, but also getting at something real.
Yeah. I love when fucking libtards over at Vox will be like, you know, as a liberal media
outlet that routinely rails against Donald Trump, we have to also admit that the fascist
apparatus of the state that is actively targeting the dissident left, the radical left, is kind
correct. It's awesome. It's fucking awesome. By the way, this attitude, this attitude that demands
that American militarism cease, that America restrain itself on the global stage a little bit,
is a perfectly valid, perfectly reasonable demand. I'm not alone in this demand. As a matter of fact,
is a very popular demand. It's one that Trump tapped into when he lied about being an isolationist,
when he lied about being the peace president. Okay? The anti-third world is right, is mostly
flintless, by the way, not even a standard magazine. Yeah, it's unbelievably racist for the record.
The whole, like, third world is a real problem is incredibly racist. Most people's attitude,
attitude. Most liberals' attitude on this is maybe we should stop fucking killing people
in developing nations and in the periphery. Okay? That's it. Third Worldism as a camp
is not a real block of power in the world currently. It doesn't exist because there's
cold wars over. There is no USSR block. There is maybe one hegemonic America and its allies,
the western nations. But there is no real, you know, non-aligned movement. There's no
real third world. It doesn't exist. We use it colloquially. So there isn't really a lot
of appetite even amongst liberals for this kind of commentary. But to then openly align
yourself with Secretary of State Marco Rubio's ridiculous attempts at silencing political
dissent in the country by tying it back to foreign adversaries that they are inventing
is one, leaning into incredible amounts of white supremacist thought,
and it's also setting up your own downfall, Zach Beauchamp. They are not going to make
a distinction between liberal NATO-Atlanticists who still criticize Donald Trump and anti-NATO
radical third world is like myself
you're a fucking moron
under no circumstances
should you give
credibility to this state department
unless
you're you know choosing which side you're going to be on unless you're
saying i'm gonna be a fascist
in a new report on cuba
what is this if you commented on the fact that islam killed gay people in
Why hasn't Mamdani said anything? Why hasn't Syed said anything, says Sycrab?
I haven't covered it yet because I just got back.
But if you think this is Islam and that every Muslim American has to make a statement about an attack that took place on gay pride, you're a fucking unbelievable racist.
Okay.
The fuck are you talking about?
I think they owe it to us.
To what?
To you?
I owe you nothing.
Nobody owes you anything.
Is Zoran the fucking mayor of Berlin or is he the mayor of New York?
Because whenever there's an attack on anyone in New York,
he of course comes out and delivers a statement.
The fuck are you talking about?
The idea that every Muslim,
every Muslim politician is responsible for what you have decided is a Islamic style attack is fucking ridiculous.
Is this what we do? Do I demand every Jewish person speak out? Do I demand every Jewish person immediately come out and condemn Israel's attacks on a daily basis?
No.
People would immediately call that anti-semitic.
White people never have to speak out against the atrocities that other white people commit
and they spend a lot of time and resources
the YWISER history is easy, yeah.
Anyway, let's continue.
In a report on Cuba, the State Department has argued that Havana has become the beating
heart of the new and distinct kind of Marx in which the State Department calls Third
Worldism Cuba as spreading this doctrine per Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the explicit
intent of fomenting revolution in America.
Here, the Trump administration is following conservative influencers who in recent months
have become increasingly preoccupied by the Third Worldist threat.
The left is moving from woke to Third Worldism Chris Rufo, perhaps the right's leading
activist recently wrote.
Manhattan is to think tank Christopher Rufo, who is responsible for the CRT, anti-woke,
anti-DEI initiatives, is now cooking up another one.
Chris Rufo also, obviously, has to be incredibly pro-Israel.
So that's part of the reason why they're doing this third-worldism thing, to like tie it
back to anti-Israel sentiment.
What is this?
Today's cover, Families of 9-11 Victims Want to Ban Mom Donnie from Sacred 25th Anniversary
Ceremony at Ground Zero, Unwelcome Guests.
Yeah, this is insanely fucking racist.
Okay?
Insanely racist.
Anyway, let's continue.
Zach is one of those Israel isn't committing a genocide, guys, and he posted this recently,
which is ironic, given this article, yeah.
Trump has few good qualities, but his routine ability to humiliate people who act like he's
a reasonable and normal political figure is surely one of them.
Anyway, we'll talk about the Zoran thing in a second.
Where is this article?
Okay, so, Ben Shapiro, one of the conservatives' leading media voice, declared in April that
the future of the Democratic Party's radical Third Worldism.
All of this may be news of Amdani and other Democrats who virtually never use the term
describe their own views. So what are Rubio Rufo and Shapiro talking about?
And is there any truth in the various claims about rising Third Worldists influence? The answer
is more complicated than it might seem. The Serbidists are using Third Worldists a lot like
terms such as woke and critical race theory before it. As an ill-defined concept, this serves a
clearinghouse for various right-wing grievances and can be used as a slur to describe and demonize
the left. Yet at the same time, they've actually put their fingers on something real. Oh! Among
Among a very specific and visible subsection of the socialists left, a set of views that
can be reasonably termed, third worlders are rising in prominence for progressive outside
this camp, deciding what comes next will require engaging with a right-wing critique
directly and not dismissing it as a smear.
Also we have to hand it to them.
We have to hand it to them.
Once again, these fucking idiots think that there is a factional battle that you can fight
within the left flank in the left opposition to Donald Trump by leaning in to the ridiculous
propaganda from the fascist Trump administration.
You will also be at the camps, alongside me, okay?
You need to understand that, and you need to understand that now.
You fucking idiot.
You dumb fuck.
You dumb fuck baboon.
You are also going to be thrown in the same fucking camps that we get thrown into.
You're so stupid, unless you become a loyal servant of the fascist Republican party.
Then he talks about the third world is some blah, blah, blah, even though it's irrelevant.
And I suspect he will then turn into, he will then turn this into how the Trump administration
is the allies are basically arguing that people like Sankara are trying to trick you.
Whatever the modern left protest stations, their actual views are basically still pretty
similar to those of the Cold War, American radicals who apologize for the Khmer Rouge.
in this case, the most admired third world militants are now jihadists rather than the
communists. Oh, so you are just as racist as them. Never mind. Yeah, that's it. Where
the left is becoming jihadist. This is the same exact fucking propaganda from Nick Fuentes
all the way to Marco Rubio. He just happens to agree with it. That's it. That's it. He
He happens to agree with it because he's pro-Israel for the record.
This is Vox, by the way.
In this viewpoint, yeah, the most influential work in this vein comes from Zanib Rabuah,
a fellow conservative Hudson Institute think tank, sees third worldism as a joint product
of anti-American governments, including Cuba, leftist intellectuals, and American universities.
recent prominence in her view, is a function of October 7th of the Gaza War, which allowed
Third World War's logic to fuse seamlessly with the decolonial language that became
popular during the Woke era.
In this viewpoint, a terrorist organization like Hamas comes to be seen as an armed expression
of a national liberation struggle, because it is that.
It is that.
That's what it is.
The question seems to be what Hamas actually did and becomes what Israel's presumed to
represent.
And because Israel's position is the forward post of American imperial power defending
Hamas becomes almost automatically a moral gesture directed towards the United States itself.
But Rabooah does not stop with foreign policy and review Third Worldism has become a kind
of universal ideology that's applied to everything, oh my god, from university hiring the board
of policy to all of the different fucking things that the conservative movement hates.
The ideology asks a country to accept that its power is a historical accident waiting,
avoiding either correction with a sort of new red tear or annihilation. Oh my lord.
Oh, um, Moundani was a plunder at New York with the Somalis plunder in Minnesota, Rufo writes.
Legal or illegal, it's all piracy looting and expropriation, pure third worldism.
By the time we get to Zara, Moundani's a pirate, it's clear that the analytic train has gone off the rails.
Oh, so there's a reasonable critique here
There's a reasonable critique mom Donnie doesn't fit the bill
That's what it is, but there is a reasonable critique. I'm sure it's gonna get to me eventually this article. Oh
My god, he wrote so much. Oh, yeah, yeah
The most obvious example is a son piker there it is the streamer and provocateur who's become a lightning rod in debates over the Democratic
party's direction.
Piker's repeatedly expressed admiration for the Chinese Communist Party despite his vicious
authoritarian tendencies and said he would vote for a mosque a thousand times over Israel.
My colleague Eric Levitz described his world view as campus, an old leftist term for someone
who aligns themselves with any government that opposes the American-led bloc.
And one that I think is a bit more precise than Third World is, but Piker's fascination
with anti-American militancy and terrorists, he once gave a fawning interview to a Houthi
fighter on stream, not true, he was an Houthi fighter, suggests that Third World is at
least a reasonable descriptor.
And then he goes after it, and Neville Roy singham, ties me back to him.
And then also Dario Lisa Villachevalier once again, it's, it's literally just, we got to
hand it to the State Department.
Some of these fucking dirty, filthy, commie third worlders do need to get packed up writing
this at vox.com.
That's it.
That's the whole fucking article.
Okay, the entire article is, we gotta hand it to the Trump administration, which I'm
very critical of, except on this issue, some of these fucking filthy Muslim, dirty Islamo-communist
need to go to fucking prison.
That's what this article is, okay?
You have to turn around and make it seem like there's some reasonable critique, but only
Maybe we get to allow what the boundaries of that reasonable critique are, okay?
This is slapping a liberal patina on reactionary Trumpism.
That's all this is.
Luckily, for us, nobody fucking reads Vox.com except for us.
Dumbass.
Fucking idiots, dude.
We got to hand it to the Hudson Institute.
We got to hand it to the Manhattan Institute, these unbelievably reactionary think tanks,
because at the end of the day, they're also pro-Israel, and so are we.
Okay?
And these guys are really fucking up the bag for us to maintain our appeal in polite society
as people who are pro-Israel, but too ashamed to openly fucking pop off about how Israel
has every right to do whatever it's done.
Ugh.
Yeah, like I said, luckily for us, nobody fucking gives a shit about what Zach Bouchamp
has to say.
Dumbass. Anyway, another version of this like sinister anti-anti-war argumentation has been
coming after Abdul Al-Sahab, which we're gonna get to after we're done fucking situation monitoring.
we need in theater. There's more moving into theater.
Well, also over the weekend, the Pentagon revised the number of service members wounded
since the war began, jumping to more than 600. However, the Pentagon has put the four soldiers.
Yeah, here's another example of this. Moderate Democrats turned into Nick Fuentes and start
complaining about Arabs turning the U.S. into the third world when there's a progressive pro-
medicare for all anti-war muslim canada running for a sentencing
insane dude fuck these monsters
killed recently into a new category overseas operations the idea being they're not casualties
of the war against iran operation epic fury on the grounds that they were killed after yeah just
Just a reminder that Clair won by 20, Dottie Aliza won by 4, and Malaat won by 15.
It's going to feel real good in one week.
Yeah.
Oops.
The ceasefire went into effect.
Stanley?
Charlie Daggett and Jordan.
As the U.S. and Iran have so far paused the strikes for the third day in a row, no strikes
from either side after nearly two straight weeks of nightly bombing.
And this comes as U.S. officials, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
General Dan Cain are warning about the dwindling supply of U.S. air defense
munitions. The U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations also weighing in saying
President Trump is giving diplomatic effort to chance.
What the president is doing right now, as we've seen all along, is giving some
talks, some space. Talks are ongoing. They're happening at every level.
Seeing that Cohen is joining me now. Zach, he also said that the U.S.
ambassador to the UN that the Iranian communist I don't know what is the
trajectory of this war as an Iranian who lives in Iran I never had an
opportunity to talking to Westerners about Iran there are lots of things I
want to talk about but either way it feels like that I don't have a voice in
this point in time I appreciate you covering Iran but I'll be glad if you
could interview Iranians who live in Iran too I mean sure troops have all
they need yeah professor Marandi professor Marandi interview incoming when
when it comes to this fight with Iran,
but we're hearing about these dwindling munitions.
What's the sense of what's going on here, Zach?
Yes, sir, Ambassador Walts did say
that the U.S. has all the munitions it needs,
but that does not line up with what we've been reporting
frankly since back in April when analysts
and Pentagon data has shown that the Pentagon's
munitions stockpiled, including these key
missile defense systems are running low
because of the high frequency with which
being used during this war with Iran. And while the White House and the Trump administration
is arguing that this temporary pause over the last three days is intended to give space
for diplomacy.
Listen, Abbas Arakshi, Foreign Minister of Iran, open invite to the broadcast. I will
interview you anytime, any day. Patrick Bet David, perhaps the most important Iranian
voice anytime, any day of the week. Okay. Those are, those are two people, two Iranians
that I would love to pick brains of. Okay. Both sides get a, get a decent understanding
of both sides. Abbas don't know you little bro, I know. Abbas are actually will mock
you so hard. I mean, the media stopped giving allowing him to do interviews. He's no longer
on mainstream outlets. They shut that down real quick. So if he still wants to reach
an American audience, I'm here.
Okay, we've learned new details about a consequential meeting that took place at the White House
also i do have iranians on all the time
there's one iranian that i have on the broadcast with regular for disease
name is treated parcy
friday when uh... discussions were being had about potentially escalating the
conflict with iran
uh... all of his not standing on the were in the room were told and there are
some hard truths laid out for the president by
both vice president jadie vance and chairman of the joint chiefs
dan came but then warning
about potential concerns related to the options for escalating this conflict.
And Kane in particular pointed to these warnings about the U.S.'s diminishing stockpile of
key munitions saying that if the U.S. continues to use them at the clip that they've been
using them so far in this conflict, they may not have enough for the next war, especially
if it's against an adversary like China or Russia.
Now, this is just one of the concerns we're told that was raised during this meeting on
on Friday that ultimately preceded the ongoing temporary pause.
The other concerns that were raised included
potentially massive amounts of civilian casualties
inside Iran.
If the U.S. were to follow through with Trump's threat
to strike civilian infrastructure,
things like power plants and bridges,
things of that nature,
we're also told that concerns about retaliation
against Gulf energy infrastructure
and a broader regional escalation were also mentioned.
So ultimately those concerns all taken into account
seem to have led to this current pause, but there's still so many questions about whether
or not diplomacy can ultimately get back on track and bring it into this war.
This reporting that CNN has, I was just speaking about with Betsy, about the concerns raised
by Vice President Vance and General Kaine, concerns specifically about munitions stockpiles,
Ambassador Walt in part was blaming that on aid that the U.S. has given to Ukraine.
A, it doesn't seem like it's that simple, but I'll let you answer that question.
be, what does this tell you about the overall impact on US military readiness?
Well, there's certainly an impact, Eric, on US military readiness, no doubt about it. But let's
put things into perspective. But when you look at the expenditure of patriot missile
munitions in Ukraine, you're talking in the hundreds of patriot missiles that the, like,
back three-type missiles that the Ukrainians have used. Compare that to as many as 1,430
Patriot missiles that were sent off in the war against Iran. So the U.S. itself has used...
Why is Iran giving us the out again? They should just keep lobbing missiles if we're so low, LaMalle.
I mean, Iran also has not an infinite amount of missiles. Iran also has a finite amount of missiles.
If America is not striking Iran, then why the fuck would Iran strike back currently? Why would they agitate?
They obviously don't want their bridges to blow up. They obviously don't want their people to be killed.
So that's the reason why they're not fighting. That's the reason why they're not continuing to strike anywhere.
Plus, it doesn't matter because the Strait is still closed.
And as long as the straight remains closed, Iran has the leverage.
Iran is still winning.
Every day that goes by, every day that goes by where the straight remains closed is a
day where America's hand is forced to negotiate with Iran.
considerable number of munitions in this Iran conflict, Operation Epic Fury, and both pre
and subsequent operations.
So we really have to figure out the defense industrial base in this country.
There are serious concerns.
General Kain and to the vice president are absolutely right about that.
The key question, though, is that we have a long lead time putting all these weapons
systems together, building them, manufacturing them, getting money allocated for them.
and then of course finally getting them into the field. So those are the kinds of things
that have to be fixed. The Pentagon is making strikes in that direction, but the key thing
here is also this. The Eurora efforts under the Biden administration and before even the
first Trump administration to do some of this, but there have been some holdups, some of
them congressionally induced, some of them bureaucratic inertia, and then have prevented
that. The U.S. had decided to focus on Ukraine, for example, instead of Iran, we probably
wouldn't be in this situation.
Let's talk about where things stand then now with CNN Global Affairs analysts.
Yeah, we wouldn't be in this situation if America didn't fucking listen to Israel and
try to kill every person in a key leadership position in the Iranian government and the
Iranian military. The Strait of Hormuz would still be open.
Iran was willing to drop their nuclear enrichment. They said they were conceding on this. And
then America was like, you know what's actually gonna sweeten this deal? Just fucking murdering
a bunch of children.
It is kind of wild how unbelievably pointless, how unbelievably stupid this decision was,
and how much, how much this has destroyed America's credibility, what remained of America's
credibility, how much this has destroyed what remained of American goodwill around the world,
how much this has destroyed the confidence that people have in the might of the American
military, its force projection capabilities, I cannot think of a greater leader than Donald
Trump for the unironically third world disposition.
Of course, we on the left, anti-imperialists, will practice revolutionary defeatism to a
certain degree.
i have been very open about this i think that there is a
positive outcome of all of this if america
uh... after receiving this bloody nose
restrains itself around the globe
and it stops waging these wars for uh... these wars of imperialism at the
behest of capital
and instead focuses on rebuilding its own
domestic manufacturing focuses on rebuilding its own roads infrastructure
Now, that is the less likely scenario, but ultimately, that is the one solid, positive
outcome that could come of this, you know, the likes of Brett McGurk never seeing polite
society ever again.
It's very unlikely that Petr Gazals, no one has done more to turn America into a third
world nation that Trump and MAGA is fundamentally a third world as movement complete with buffoonish
personality cult?
I guess.
But it's also on the other side, unbelievably beneficial for nations and the periphery.
This is the other side of the story.
Right?
Because America, as the hegemon, gets to project its force all around the globe, far
beyond its borders.
This means a lot of bloodshed, a lot of violence for countries in the periphery for the people
that live in these nations that are on the receiving end of American militarism.
So the more America's capabilities diminish on that front, the better it is for these
countries in the periphery to breathe, to demonstrate their sovereignty, to rebuild their nations
without the ever-present threat of America coming in and bombing them.
This is the reality.
So in that aspect, or even the American capabilities of waging war against our foreign adversaries
like China falling apart in spectacular display like this, as we've seen in the Strait of
mousse. That dream of waging war against China over the Taiwan Strait, drowning in the waters
of the Persian Gulf, that's objectively the pro-third world disposition. That's objectively
the anti-imperialist position. So for that, J.D. Pondon is still very much alive.
But yeah, these demons, like Brett McGurk, will never have to address their war crimes.
They will never have to address their contributions to American imperialism.
They never have to face accountability for the participation in the genocide in Gaza.
And they'll be able to launder their reputation on liberal outlets like ZNN, and continue
to advance American imperial interests.
Brett McGurk is also the author of the new book coming out, Brink, Inside the Race to
Free the October Hostages.
It's good to see you.
Thanks for being here.
So let's talk about their in a pause moment.
That seems to be, I think, the only clear thing when it comes to the status of this
war, because two weeks of U.S. bombings, bombing runs in Iran, have seemed to fail to break
the deadlock over the Strait of Formos still.
And now you have reporting that there's this concern that was raised this week about further
depleting munition stockpiles if the president escalates this further.
How do they navigate a path forward now, Brett?
What do you see here?
Kate, it's tough.
Five months tomorrow will be the five-month mark of when this conflict started.
I had a saying when I used to work in the White House for various presidents from General Eisenhower when he was president.
He used to say, before we talk about decisive military action, lay out all the facts cold and hard.
And it appears from the reporting from CNN and elsewhere that this meeting late last week did that,
and said, here are all the factors as we consider next steps.
That's good. That's exactly the type of information a president should be getting.
It's probably the type of meeting that should have been had before this started.
but where are we now i would call this case a tactical pause i think
three thirteen nights of strikes
their back channels open through a mon in other to try to get the straight
back to where it was before the strike started two weeks ago
and that i'm told that making some progress
so tactical pause a seary rc if diplomacy can get somewhere
but otherwise we're still kind of stuck because that the key variable remains a
straight of her moves and uh...
if iran is not going to is is going to
maintain that the straight up removes its sovereign territory it controls what goes through the straight
I don't see Washington accepting that nor do the Gulf States accept that and therefore you're kind of stuck so
It's a big week. Hey, we got visits coming up Washington that now who's here is Alinsky's here
We'll see the diplomacy go but right now tactical pause
Where do you think things stand right now and do you think that this that this pause and the strikes could perhaps lead to some
diplomatic progress
The pause in the strikes, of course, is welcome, particularly for people, civilians, who are caught in this war.
It is an indication that the US administration wants to give talks a chance to succeed.
And they have said that holding back is giving the diplomats that chance.
However, the Iranian side has clearly activated the Houthi militants in Yemen.
when the war started in February, the Hosees largely have stayed out of it.
This goes back to the...
I think something that is insane to take note of is that while CNN, CBS, Fox News, ABC,
And even to a certain degree, MSNBC are all trying to find a reason to continue this war at the behest of Israel, of course.
The American population is super against it, and the numbers of supporters of this war, even amongst Trump's very own base, have diminished.
It's been four years since I'm watching you. I'm fangirling here, but I would love to be
on your broadcasts as you only have two Iranian fans in Iran. No, I definitely have more Iranian
fans in Iran than, than, than two. Um, these days I don't really chime into your stream
because of the university stuff, but I still want to be a voice for Iranians in here.
I definitely have more Iranian fans in Iran than I do Israeli fans in Israel.
And there's more people than just two.
I have more Israeli fans living in Israel than the number two.
So there's definitely more than two from Iran.
Yeah, I was on Iranian news, man, the Iranian news was covering me.
Iranian playbook, which is to use different proxies at different times to exert pressure.
And this is more familiar territory for the Iranians. Usually, they would not get
so directly involved in conflict, but have one of their proxies really apply pressure,
which is what we're seeing Kothi's trying to do. But also, we have a couple of militant groups
inside of Iraq, also now saying that they will enter the fray. So it's a very cautious moment
to say that we are at a return to the ceasefire, not fully there yet, but it has been good to see
three nights of no direct military action from American side or the Iranian side.
Absolutely, and I'm so glad you mentioned the civilians too on all sides here,
especially when we're just seeing one escalation after another for nearly two weeks.
So then in your view and your assessment, how long do you think this pause is likely to last?
From April 27, they're so close. A breakthrough is imminent. There will be talks in the coming days.
A delegation is on their way. A new proposal, an important meeting to review the proposal.
The mediators say talks are extremely positive. Another important meeting to review, another
proposal. The delegation isn't on their way. A technical team is in contact with some idiot.
The delegation will be on their way in three days. Over and over and over again. This is from April 27,
2026, okay? It's unbelievable. The media never gets tired of doing this rerun. It's awesome.
They never get tired. It's like talks are so positive. It's gonna happen any moment now.
Then the pro-Israel side comes out and freaks the fuck out and they're like,
how dare you do this? How dare you do this? Okay. How fucking dare you? How dare you, Mr. Trump?
You should nuke Iran right now. You should nuke Tehran. You should nuke Tehran. You should nuke
to Iran. I live in Shiraz. I know five guys that know you, but they are just normies.
Know you don't. I checked. Yes, I do. I don't believe you. I was on Iranian national news.
Okay. I might be a little too, you know, not Muslim enough for some that would normally
be watchers, steady watchers in Iran. No, I checked. 93 million people. 93 million people.
And you said you checked in Shiraz, the entirety of Shiraz.
My friend Tehran and his pothead friends watch you on YouTube.
Yes you were, that's how my parents know you lol.
My parents in Iran know who you are because of that.
See?
The eye-check was really funny.
I fell off in Shiraz.
That's unfortunate.
Well, the pause will last as long as there is hope for the talks to change the dynamic.
The concern is that the pause only then allows one side or the other to drag it out.
There is very little trust from the Gulf here, from the wider outworld, and the US when it
comes to see Iranian chatters with their parents that live in Iran say my dad is a fan of you in
Iran see the seriousness of the Iranian side to actually bring about a diplomatic resolution so
with very little trust we don't know how long this can last before again this last flare up started
because Iran targeted vessels in the straight of hormones so as long as there can be an agreement
not to escalate, let's not forget, we're still in the 60-day window that ends on the 17th of
August, that was set by the memorandum of understanding to get to a longer-term deal.
We're nowhere near getting to that longer-term agreement and deal. And so how long it lasts
will depend on how serious all sides are, and particularly whether Iranians will stick to
what they signed up to the memorandum of understanding, which is to allow the freedom
of navigation and the straight of hormones and it will soon now be what now five months since
both the US and Israel carried out those initial rounds of attacks starting this conflict and
I say this because soon we'll see those two leaders of those two countries meeting again
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu heading back to Washington meeting with President Trump
you know what will you be looking out for as these two leaders meet and I'm sure what happens in
in that meeting will largely determine what the next chapter in this conflict may be.
Absolutely. It will be important to see what they come out with in terms of statements,
but also what is the strategy when it comes for the American interests in this war, not
necessarily the same as the interests of Israel, and particularly Prime Minister Netanyahu
who of course is always thinking about the next elections and what would suit him best
as a wartime prime minister of Israel.
So it'll be important to see
not only how they deal with Iran,
but also Lebanon has been incredibly important.
President Trump just received the president of Lebanon,
Joseph Owens, in the White House,
and the Lebanese desperately want to see Israel
withdraw from Lebanese territories,
but also to have peace come back to Lebanon.
So I think the Lebanon element will be important,
but of course, the bigger agenda item is Iran.
Palestine, unfortunately, will likely not really be
top of the agenda in these meetings,
but it is important to the wider dynamic in this region.
When it comes to Iran,
Prime Minister Netanyahu has been very hawkish,
whereas we've seen that President Trump
is keen to get to a diplomatic resolution.
We've seen them have disagreements before.
It would be interesting to see
how they come out of these meetings,
and whether, again, American interests
to bring about diplomatic resolution
will match what Prime Minister Netanyahu
will be advocating for during those meetings.
Yes, on the Iran war, you've been frustrated with Secretary Pegg's sets because of the
advice he gave you early on in the war, how it's turned out.
I think it's done a great job.
We've pretty much destroyed their military.
They want to meet and we'll meet and see what happens.
I want to apologize for doing a rerun for the one hundred and fiftieth time in the last
That's 150 days.
I
think it's pretty funny that he just lies.
And we just let him lie over and over again and it's funny because everyone knows it's
a lie.
But even his fans know it's a lie at this point.
What a strange song and dance we play on a daily basis.
Yeah this was another insane moment.
There's a report that is that the US has taken 13 billion dollars from Venezuela.
Where's that money going?
Trump goes I think even more than that but where's that money going?
paid for that war many times over but where is that money going running the
country? No the money the US is taking in where is it going running the country?
Insane
yeah in his pocket. A new CBS News poll shows most Americans are frustrated with
the war in Iran only 35% now approved. I did see this handling his overall job approval
rating now stand at 39%. Now these numbers could be so high bro ahead of November's mid
terms. Nancy Cortez is at the White House with more. Good morning to you Nancy. Good
morning Natalie. This poll was designed to get at how Americans feel about.
We truly are, we truly are the cattle nation.
The fact that like the approval ratings are not lower for Israel and the fact that Trump's
approval ratings are not lower in general means that we are still a cattle country.
That's it.
Iran war as we head into the sixth month of this conflict.
And overall, it's not great news for the president.
Take a look at this.
Nearly six in 10 respondents said they feel uncertain about the war.
Nearly six in 10 said they're frustrated with the war.
About a third said they are pessimistic, and only 19 percent said they are optimistic about
this war.
Interestingly, the poll found that there is large and bipartisan support for some of the
goals of the war, like stopping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, but more than two-thirds
of those polls said they still think that the administration should end the war now.
And despite the fact that this president keeps insisting that the war is not going to drag
on, most Americans told us they expect it to take months or even years to end with an
overwhelming majority saying that it's been harder, they think, than the Trump administration
had anticipated.
And Nancy of course another major topic that is very pressing on Americans ahead of the midterms now
Which is less than a hundred days to go is the economy how are people feeling about that and how the president is doing?
Natalie is probably not a surprise with gas prices now spiking back above four dollars a gallon that nearly eight in ten people said in our
poll that the administration isn't focusing enough on
Lowering prices and three-quarters of them said that their income isn't keeping up with inflation
more than half said Trump's policies are making them worse off. And of course
these are not the numbers that the party in power likes to see in a midterm
election year, especially as Democrats have been out on the campaign trail
focusing on pocketbook issues and affordability. This could help explain
why some Republican lawmakers have been a little more vocal lately about the
need to wrap this war up and focus on the economy. Natalie. All right Nancy
court is at the White House. Thank you. You know, his ass is in hell, bro. And no, not
because he's gay. Okay, before you fucking yell at me, I'm not being homophobic. Although
Although I am an enemy, although I am a foe, but you know his ass is burning in hell right
now.
If hell is real, Lindsey Graham is absolutely in hell.
How long have we been pushing this?
You've been pushing this for years, right?
Right, it's here.
I thought it was this boy.
It's the boy who's jacked.
It's the best thing I've ever done.
He loves blowing stuff up, so, you know, there are a lot of people inside that didn't want
do it. So I had my challenges. But President Trump, when he gets into the zone, he listens,
asks good questions, you know, no tweeting. He has done not, he hadn't tweeted much at
all, no drama. He's been a great wartime president. I said last night that Trump and
Beebe are like Roosevelt and Churchill. I mean, they're the right two guys to confront
this evil
he is straight up a demonic entity
of the highest order
this is why any kind of whitewashing in kind of laundering his reputation is is
making you morally culpable
hello
to that.
No, you're just down.
Oh, dammit.
Hello?
Hey, Bob, could you do something on the line?
May I connect you?
Yeah, please.
Do you have it on speaker, Ryan?
Yeah, okay.
Okay, all right, can I keep you now?
Yeah.
Hey, baby, Lindsay.
I couldn't, I'm just so impressed. Glad to be your friend.
I'm glad you are my friend.
I'm going to meet with the president this weekend. I'm going down to Doral.
I'm going to try to get him to join with y'all in Lebanon to maybe fly some with you.
Would you like that?
I mean, what can you say?
Any other country, this is treason, like they filmed treason in broad daylight.
traitor. Trader to humanity, traitor to America. Yeah, I get that. I think you're at a point,
but I've been thinking about the other side of it for a second. Concentrating way around
If we tell Kuzala that we're going all the way, we're threatening them, but if we actually
do it, then they have no reason not to go all the way against us.
And right now, that's not our interest, we can do it right here.
He's saying don't join don't get America to join in in Lebanon because they'll pummel us too hard
In Israel
I mean, they're probably also performing for camera
I'll, okay, well, that's actually good counsel.
I'll put it out there as an idea.
We can always go back to it.
Democrats and Republicans are okay with the treaty, and you'll never get the treaty until
you get a pathway for the Palestinians.
You just can't get there.
You can't get NPS to recognize Israel.
But when I'm gonna tell BB and I just told Lyder,
I told the BB this morning, he called me
and thanked me for everything.
He says he's game.
I said, listen, BB, and small church and being a beer
are not gonna deliver.
If you win your election, it's gonna be before our election.
I think the time probably to do this is the length.
We'll know pretty quickly whether BB is able to deliver.
able to deliver
To be honest with you, I think about three to four weeks. We should have a minute
It's interesting because
It's interesting because you never see him fight so hard for South Carolinans
You know what I mean
It's strange to me that CNN is like trailing them around or Wall Street Journal is trailing
them around and they never watch them take phone calls for, I don't know, delivering
healthcare to people in South Carolina.
What we're trying to do is just get a few cities to fall in the next month, get the Arabs
more openly involved tomorrow or by the end of the week and just have almost irreversible
momentum.
Democrat socialists doubling down on some of their most extreme platforms.
Abolish ICE. Absolutely. Abolish Borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in
the US illegally. Has a long-term plan yep.
You speak for the entire Democratic Party what we need to know as the DSA just keeps
growing.
53% improve the socialism in the Democratic Party and forget a degree in finance.
Arizona state is now offering a degree in becoming an influencer and I put that in italics.
some friends don't try to have member your mornings are better with friends get the
best hashtag
I raped us on 10 years ago after a raving your city down in the red light
district his ass gave me gonorrhea my dick nearly fell off a song got panied
and scissified by me in 2010 in the New York City red light district he said I
love your BJC big Jewish cock
Zionists and rape. Zionists and rape fantasies. Wow. Interesting. Average Israel defender fantasizing about raping someone. Color me surprised.
I think it's hot down south, things are heating up in Michigan today with President Trump
set to hold a rally at GM to top the administration's economic accomplishments during his second
term.
And it comes as early in-person voting is underway in the battleground state's primary with key
governor and Senate races on that ballot.
Alex Hogan's live at the White House with the details.
Hey, Alex.
Good morning, Steve, Brian and Ainsley.
So as you mentioned, President Trump will leave the White House today.
He will head to Michigan, and that is where early voting is already underway.
Tonight there will be a debate between some of the Democratic candidates for Senate, including
these two you see on screen, Dr. Abdul El Sayed and Representative Haley Stevens.
With less than 100 days until the midterms, there's a lot of questions over the future
of the Democratic Party and some new controversy within.
A new report detailing how Chair Ken Martin reportedly threw his phone at the desk of
a junior aide while braiding them.
The New York Times writing quote that the phone tossing incident resulted in a formal
complaint to the DNC's Human Resources Department.
The fallout from the phone throwing episode was described by half a dozen people familiar
with the incident.
Mr. Martin later met with DNC Human Resources officials about his behavior.
minority leader Hakim Jeffries addressed that report yesterday. Yes, the
chairman has my full support. What we've seen over the last 18 plus months
is that Democrats have won every single meaningful election up and down the
ballot across the country.
During that period of time, and we look forward to our continued partnership.
One of the co chairs of the Democratic Socialists of America joined Fox.
It is very funny.
that Hakim is saying like, look, if you're delivering results, we'll stand by you.
Because that is antithetical to how the Democrats normally operate.
It's also very funny to do that for Ken Martin.
You know.
But I guess Ken Martin so far hasn't been as resistant to the left flank as whoever will inevitably replace him, but he's also totally incompetent.
So I don't know how I feel about this Ken Martin saga.
Because I do feel like whoever replaces Ken is going to be far more competent and far more
aggressive against the left flank than Ken is.
Than Ken is even capable of being.
New Sunday with Shannon Breen who asked if established Democrats should be worried about
DSA plans for their party.
The establishment Democrats should be worried about the voters and about what
the voters think and about what the constituency thinks. And right now,
right now they have not been delivering and our candidates are and have been
and it's resonating with voters. And rumor went on to explain to Shannon
Vareem. Some of the other arguments of the DSA is trying to make and changes
like expanding Congress, getting rid of the Senate, getting rid of the
presidency and the Supreme Court as we know it and abolishing prisons and as a
future long-term plan even opening up the borders. Guys back to you. You left
out getting rid of the Pentagon. Right. And prisons. What are you gonna say?
Alec, thank you very much. You know, Shannon Bream put the woman that we
thought in that report. She just gave her a list. Okay, yes or no? Are you for
this stuff against it. Watch this and then try to keep your job here. So we're gonna
put up on the screen a few of the things that are part of your platform and I want to ask
you just give me sort of a true false on these. Abolish the Senate. True. Okay. Replace the
presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them. Yep. Abolish ICE. Absolutely. Abolish
borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally.
As a long-term plan, yep.
Defund the Pentagon.
Absolutely.
Abolish prisons, at least in large part.
Yeah, again, as part of a long-term program, yeah.
Okay, so no prisons.
Government or public ownership of most large corporations.
Yeah, absolutely.
So what can you add to that?
Other than that.
what is that called like chaos not having a country socialism right insane open up the prisons
yes let the rapists and the murderers out you know what her theory is her theory is the only reason
they're prisoners because people are impoverished so she goes once we get that money they're gonna
have no reason to break the law because some people will work on that break every so this is
somebody really well thought out there's not one country it's so funny that
They're looking at what she's saying and going, how insane?
Meanwhile, there's a guy on that panel who literally advocated to murder the homeless.
Brian killed me.
I think that's a way more dangerous and way more insane position to maintain than any
number of different, any number of different takes that you've heard from the DSA Co-Chair,
DSA National Co-Chair. What is this? We're only going to see more friction in this regard.
There's very clear gap between where elected officials are post-sauron and where the institutional
leadership is that can only be quietly ignored for so long.
I want to call on some DSA electives currently answering a question about the workers deserve
more agenda and why they disagree with it, i.e. where they disagree with the DSA platform.
Illinois State Senator Rachel Ventura defunding the police is the opposite of democratic socialism.
The tough thing here is that the incentives are totally different from both sides. Every DSA
candidate in the country now wants to be zorn and just pretend 2020 never happened. While within DSA
itself, it's not even the most electoral caucuses that want to be, what? It's DSA itself, not even
Even the most electorate caucuses want to be the social fascist side.
In the end, both sides end up losing because all the DSA candidates get tagged with cause
questions if they support a platform that they don't, while DSA itself is slowly made
irrelevant because of its sheer distance from the politics being practiced by its public
faces.
The ultimate question ends up being, well, why do you guys still have anything to do
with each other?
And it becomes one that's impossible to answer without a bunch of jargon about left unity
and democratic centralism that doesn't make sense to anyone not initiated. Even if you think it's
misguided the ultra position that what Zoranis is doing and what DSA is trying to do are fundamentally
different things, that needs to be separated as far more coherent than the electorals position
that the org can have its cake and eat it too. Okay, here's the problem. The Democratic Socialists
of America, democratically organize around their platform.
That's it.
So even if it's cadre candidates don't fully endorse the entirety of the platform, as long
as they're a part of the organization, they're still a part of the organization.
You know?
That's it.
shit that I don't agree with. But who gives a fuck? The question is, do you agree with
everything that the Democratic caucus, like the National Democratic Party, puts out? No.
You know? What don't you agree with, for example? It's not even relevant enough to bring up.
ultimately even if I have disagreements like minor disagreements or
disagreements in the way that it's communicated, I don't care.
You know what I mean?
Like, my attitude on this is these people are not only members of my community, members
that I've sent the way of DSA, but also far closer to me, ideologically far closer to
me in terms of like how to achieve some kind of necessary change in this country than anyone
else in American politics. So now I'm not gonna fucking shit on them. I'm not gonna make a
mountain out of a molehill. Especially out in public. I'm gonna stand by them. I think
you should care. DSA members keep showing up on Fox News and being incompetent and communicating.
And ultimately, these are missed opportunities to attract people to our own movement. I don't
think you understand. I don't think she's incompetent. I think she has a different opinion than you.
But sucks to suck for you and everyone else. That opinion is one that the National Party
has democratically decided on, even if I have disagreements with some of this program.
The DSA's goal is not to fucking win elections for the Democrats. What are we talking about?
It's a fucking socialist organization. It's a big tent socialist organization. People
need to get this shit out of their fucking heads. Okay, what are we doing? The DSA right
Right position is yes. The DSA platform, the DSA right position is the DSA platform is appealing to the masses, it's left populace, it's great, I agree, and there's truth to that.
That's the DSA right position, okay?
But the Democratic Socialist of America is a far larger organization than its right-wing factions.
Sure, it's right when factions are very successful at bringing in new members, this is true.
But ultimately, those new members that come in, still filter through the organization,
find themselves in adequate caucuses, and go through the process of political education,
and no longer just stay as like social democrats, for example.
And then they democratically vote on the national platform.
That's it.
From where I'm standing, what I care about with respect to the value of the DSA has always
He's been, first and foremost, a political organization that is capable of delivering
political education, socialist political education, to an increasingly growing, class-conscious
group of American workers.
Okay?
That's what I care about.
Part of that is making campaign promises, winning on those promises, and then delivering
on that agenda, and then closely associating democratic socialism with good governance
and electoral success.
And ultimately, the goal of DSA is not to just run Democrats and win elections in the
Democratic Party.
DSA organizes outside of that quite a bit.
Organizing around protests, organizing around, you know, necessary community activism, working
working with labor unions. It's ridiculous. As long as, from my estimation, the Democratic
Socialists of America are not as crazy towards the left as what is commonplace on the right,
fascist reactionary politics that is totally normalized on the right.
As long as we don't arrive at that position, who cares?
And perhaps there's no equivalence anyway, and I don't believe there is one.
Boxers don't care about the well-being of DSA. Do you see how they clip us on? Yeah.
Yeah. If your expectation is that everyone is going to follow the Zoran line, hook line
is sinker, you are wrong. There are plenty of people within the democratic socials of
America, including the national co-chair that are further to the left is Zoran Mamdani.
If you think that they're all going to be as smooth and as charismatic as Zoran Mamdani,
Well, you're also wrong. Not everyone is capable of becoming a politician.
Zoran is a generational talent. Zoran is also a politician.
And as a politician, he restrains himself in his commentary quite a bit.
If you were to watch old Zoran videos, if you've ever watched any of those fucking Zoom
calls and shit like that, you would hear a very different Zoran.
He would make me look like a fucking anarchist, okay?
Actually, no, he was more of a almost anarchist style in his tendency.
That's it. He's running for office. Of course, when you're running for fucking office, you have to be fake.
You have to tailor.
You have to tailor your commentary around as broad, as much mass appeal as possible,
including some of the more reactionary elements in American society.
I don't understand why people are ashamed of the DSA platform that was democratically
voted on.
when a lot of this stuff is not designed around winning elections.
Some of you, unfortunately, I think, have experienced the process of DSA or experiences
impact as a vehicle for electioneering.
It's not the case, okay?
It's not the case at all.
An organization like the Democratic Socialist of America, of course, is going to have ideals
that they abide by.
They're a fucking socialist organization.
It's like asking, well, do you agree on seizing the means of production?
Well, you're a fucking socialist.
What do you mean?
No.
No, really?
Okay.
There's a difference between revisionism and being a social Democrat, okay?
PSA, Democratic Socialists of America, is a revisionist organization.
They are not a social democratic organization.
They are a democratic socialist organization.
Some will say it's the journey, not the destination, and that opinions evolve as material conditions
change and that they're pushing, the PSA is pushing for what they can within the current
confines within the current limitations and the current material conditions.
But ultimately, there is a difference between democratic socialism and social democracy.
It is not easy for DSA to say what you're saying. We voted on a platform. We are a real political
party, not a brand for corporate interests like the DNC. I mean, they could say that if they want
to sometimes they do say that.
Do you mean revisionist or reformist? Both revisionist and reformist. There is no reformism
without revisionism. It's not orthodox Marxist. It's not orthodox Marxism.
Being too woke again? Wait, why? Why am I being too woke?
Is there a difference between democratic socialism in practice now in America and social democracy? I think currently they're pretty much unanimous. Yes, currently they are.
They are. Bernie Sanders' platform has always been a social democratic platform. So is Zoram Mamedani's.
which is fine for the time being. But if you were to ask the ideals of an organization
and what they're working towards, I think it's appropriate not to lie and say the truth.
There's also a distinction between cadre candidates beyond the left-right, beyond DSA-right
versus DSA-left.
There's also obviously a distinction between paper endorsements, cadre candidates who are
DSA-cadres or running for office.
Zoran happens to be DSA right, but also a cadre candidate.
What is DSA right versus DSA left?
Um, DSA right would be the right wing of the Democratic Socialist of America.
You know how the Democratic Party has a right wing and a left wing?
And if you were to say, Zoran Mamdani represents the left wing of the Democratic Party and Henry
Quear represents the right wing of the Democratic Party, the DSA has that as well.
Politics is a spectrum.
The Democratic Socialists of America also live and exist on that spectrum.
What's cadre?
means that your organizing experience is almost entirely with the specific organization for
Zoran, it's Democratic Socialists of America. I figured you would have said Fetterman was
the right wing of the dem party, true. That's an even better example.
Yes, DSA right are electoralists that range from social Democrats, democratic socialists
of different varying different tendencies to the DSA left being revolutionary vanguardists,
Marxist Leninist, Marx-Leninist Maoist, Third Worldist, and numerous other factions.
BSA has a broad variety of different ideological tendencies that it represents, including Maoist.
Because she sounded radical and insane on Fox News and you're defending her, I don't know
know why. Chatter, I don't know if you know this, but I largely agree with her. Not only
am I defending her from a principled position, but I also largely agree with her. These are
ideals that we are moving towards. This is also the reason why when people call me a
communist I say, hey, that doesn't sound like too bad of an idea. Does it sound like a bad
idea to you. Now, most people will say, as horrifying, you do not immediately oppose
the moniker of communism. You're a communist. To that I say, so be it. What's the issue?
Moving society, evolving society to a degree where there is no more use for money, a classless,
borderless, moneyless, maybe even stateless society. I say that's an evolution that I welcome.
Don't you want a dream of a better future? That's an honorable goal. So that's it. That's
That's why I always say that.
And the same principle holds for what the supposed radical policies are.
Our opponents will always bastardize our message.
Our opponents will always ridicule.
Our opponents will always choose to misinform their audiences.
It is up to us to correct the record.
It is up to us to invoke messaging discipline to the best of our ability.
It's also important to engage in comradely behavior and not lean into cynical oppositional
framing and attack our allies.
My attitude on this is simple.
Who is making this attack?
What is their worldview?
Are they in favor of, for example, I'm not a prison abolitionist, right?
But if you were to ask me to choose between prison abolition and private prisons, I would
choose prison abolition.
I understand prison abolition as a goal.
The current normalized system of the carceral state in the United States of America is insane.
It's utterly insane.
We are well adjusted to this utterly insane societal formation, but that doesn't make
it normal. That doesn't make it good. That doesn't make it healthy. Okay?
In any case, the DSA position on abolishing jails or whatever, or abolishing the Senate,
I'm totally in favor of. That's very silly that people act as though that's totally inappropriate.
But as far as abolishing jail goes, no one is saying we're going to open up the jails tomorrow,
Let the rapist roam free
No one is saying that I've never met a single person. I've met many prison abolitionists
wonderful activists
Wonderful advocates not a single one of them has ever been like we're gonna open the jails tomorrow. That would be psychotic
Okay
The point is that the American carceral system is not designed to reduce recidivism
To to make sure that people that have done even heinous crimes can be
rehabilitated. The American criminal justice system revolves around punitive measures, revolves around
torturous conditions, revolves around basically doing as much harm as possible to people that have
harmed others. That's not justice. Okay, and it's also unsuccessful. It's unbelievably unsuccessful.
If the goal of the prison system, in theory, is supposed to cordon off people that have done harm to others for, you know, some period of time,
and then make sure that they can reintegrate into society and never do that cruelty ever again, our prison system is failed on that front every single time.
Okay?
That's it.
You're wrong about prison abolition. Yeah, prison abolition is want to open the prisons
Yeah, talks about prison abolition for the 100th day in a row. You're wrong about prison abolition
Even Brian killed me kind of understands the concept. I mean, he's very rude
He's very crude in his description of what prison abolition is but
Also, there's varying degrees of thought in the prison abolitionist movement as well
Also get the fuck out of here. You might just disarray with one version of it
It's on the rankings have been updated good job lemon comrade
Dude neither myself nor Michael from Taiwan are above Eric on the China spectrum
Are you insane? Eric literally lives in China. He automatically China mobs both of us combined.
And also, I have noticed you ain't fucking slick. You put him a little bit above me. It's disgusting.
That's a lie. I've been to China. Michael from Taiwan, not Chinese Taipei. Michael from Taiwan.
Michael from Hong Kong has never been to China.
Austin is in the appropriate place on the China spectrum, despite the fact that he
went to China.
Doing this, even the Soviet Union, they like locking people up.
That's why they had the gulag.
Say, they love locking people up.
So, at one point, you got to say, nailed it.
He's not wrong.
Okay, give me an example.
And some people say, Sweden, Norway,
all those countries, those order countries,
have stopped any of those socialistic principles
that they tried, and they sealed their border.
One of the bigger regrets they have is they opened it up.
So they did a survey of Democrats.
So in case you want to exonerate them and say,
well, that's just a friend, it's not true.
52% of Democrats approve of socialism.
You know how many independents do?
17, Republicans, 4%.
Right. So if you want, you can't win with that independent, wait,
4% of Republicans approve socialism. What the fuck's going on there?
And that's, they're not with you. And if you can't win the independence,
you cannot win in a general election.
But those are that laundry list of stuff that you're going,
ah, we got to have the Supreme Court. We got to have all that stuff.
We have to have prisons. Uh,
extraordinarily those people on the big board over there are far left
candidates that won their primaries this election cycle.
The big question is, why is Adam Hamaway and his photo still black and white?
Like they just didn't unlock his character. What's happening? Fox News for months now has
kept Adam Hamaway's character on the character selection screen black and white for some reason.
And I don't know why.
Also, what the fuck is Grand Planner there?
Put the Troyodathon on that leaderboard now.
the
general election.
Ultimately, can they win the general election?
The conventional wisdom is no, they can't, but just remember it wasn't that many years ago that AOC right here in New York City blew up, I think the number three Democrat in the House of Representative because the House of Representatives
the House of Representatives because she appealed to the far left, which is a very potent message this cycle.
And even if there are two different perspectives within the party, you have the Trojan Horse, ultimately left wing or moderate, it's still the Democratic Party.
And the Wall Street Journal has not said, says abolish the Senate, says the DSA, and it reads and part, if we could scroll up, that'd be great.
the wrong about prison abolition prisons are the institutionalization of white supremacy
dude i know i know the first police was of slave catchers i know it all okay i've done the
fucking reading jesus christ dude i don't know why we have to take like it's not even a minor
or disagreement. You're just literally, you're, that's not what I'm talking about right now, okay?
There's not even a disagreement there. So why not just call it something different if it's
actually about reform? This goes back to the same conversation that we've had over and over again,
Okay, you have to speak to the masses. You have to be where the masses are.
And you have to appeal to the masses. Socialism is a mass movement.
It's mass, it requires mass mobilization. Okay.
You're running on 2020 era, woke 1.0 commentary. Okay.
Download the new talking points.
Download the fucking new talk.
I don't think you can be an American socialist and not be a prison abolitionist.
The masses will not move left if you can't engage in polemics and capture their imagination
No, the reason why it won't work is because under the current material conditions. There is no fucking
Rehabilitation, there's no medical rehabilitation or no rehabilitation that is readily available
Okay, medical intervention and all for antisocial personality disorder crimes and pedophilia. Okay
That's it
So ultimately when you say oh we should just abolish prisons people think oh you want rapist pedophiles
the wrong of the fucking streets and that's not necessarily the wrong attitude that people
have about this fucking conversation. Okay, that's it. It's the same with policing. People's
understanding of policing is fundamentally wrong. People's understanding of prisons are
fundamentally wrong. Okay? But when you say abolish the police force, people think, oh,
you just want, once again, rapist murderers to just murder with impunity. Okay?
Most people have never imagined a world without prisons. All my fucking god, dude. Oh my god.
As it stands currently, the reason why I'm not a full subscriber of prison abolition
is quite literally because rehabilitation goes a long way. Okay. Rehabilitation should be
the focus over incarceration, the American attitude on criminal justice is unbelievably
draconian, perhaps one of the most violent in the world, if not the most violent in the
world.
There's a reason why we house a quarter of the entire world's enslaved and incarcerated
population, despite only making up 4% of the world's entire population.
Now, you're making me criticize the DSA platform, which I didn't want to do, okay?
Some of this conversation reminds me of what will you do in the commune comrade style
theoretical fantasies.
Okay?
It's, it's utterly irrelevant to have this discourse right now in broad fucking daylight.
Just say you envision a world, you envision a world where the goal should be that we solve
the underlying inequities in which crime manifests. Obviously, there will still be some people
who want to violate the social contract, and there's plenty of people who currently get
away with doing crimes. Very wealthy people, for example, very powerful people, the president
being one of them. I would like to see them behind bars. I would like for them to go
through the process of rehabilitation. That's it.
Anyway, got your rehabilitation right here, Canebert.
It's important to understand how radical this is, essentially blowing up the Constitution
separation of powers, letting Congress choose the president means adopting the parliamentary
system.
Your prison abolition take needs a lot of help.
I'm afraid, well, I'm not a prison abolitionist.
So perhaps that's the reason why it needs a lot of help from your perspective.
I want to throw, I've made it very clear,
I want to throw motherfuckers in prison.
There's a lot of people who shouldn't be in prison
that are currently in prison,
and a lot of people who have avoided prison
their whole lives that I want to throw in prison.
Okay, then we are not comrades.
Okay, well, I guess we're not then.
You're out of your fucking mind.
Okay, I want to take the people that are currently in prison
that shouldn't be in prison, out of prison,
and I want to put the motherfuckers
that deserve to be in prison, in prison right now.
Okay, if you find me,
If you find that to be unpalatable, well, I guess, you know, you do.
I'm not even making like the electoralist argument here either.
I'm just telling you what my sincerely held position is.
Just fucking stick camps at prisons, then autistic officers are fishing for a correct
word? No. No, it's a far scarier and far more dangerous word. I'm not saying that.
That prevails in Britain. It would essentially remove the presidential veto power. Third
world dictators seek to make the judiciary subservient to the ruling party for this reason,
as they did in Venezuela, and as Mexico's Marina Party is now attempting to do. The job of Republicans
now and Democrats who have the guts is to educate the country about the agenda. The political task
is to link the DSA to their specific and radical proposals and ask Democrats running for Congress
if they agree with abolishing the Senate or neutering the judiciary.
and the New York City chapter of Democratic Socialists of America is in the process of
rewriting their own constitution. There's an emergency constitution. They're looking at a
program now and they're going to be changing our country around. They're going to have it all in
writing. So to know what our country will look like if they ever come into power. So who are these
people? But what about the white collar crime? Just say that. No, that's what I'm talking about.
Yes, a shit ton of prisoners or shit ton of people who belong in prison get away with
golden parachutes in this goddamn country because that's the design of the system.
On the other side, there's a shit ton of people who shouldn't be in prison at all that are
in prison.
are essentially overeducated white people
on the downward spiral in their careers
doing all they can to destroy the country on their way out.
I have a sense that maybe out of suggestion,
maybe they can leave our country, but that's up to them.
Now, for people who say history says
that Republicans should do terrible in the midterms, right?
And a lame duck president in the midterm usually goes bad.
All I could tell you is look at the rise of socialism,
look at redistricting,
and then look at this thing called bankruptcy among the DNC.
They are so out of money,
they have asked their vendors to not build them
until after November to avoid the embarrassment
of not being able to pay them.
They refinanced their building in order to get money
to win some special elections.
And now-
It's really funny when these guys become like
anti-white activists, when they're like,
oh, these are all white guys.
It's like, dude, your Fox News, look at the panel.
Fox News, look at your politics. Everything is an expression of white anxiety on Fox News.
What the fuck are you talking about? Oh, these are white guys on the DSA. Yeah, if it was,
if the Democratic Socialist of America was an objectively white guy platform,
you would fucking suck its dick on a daily basis twice on Sundays. Okay? The problem is,
it's not. The problem is, it's the exact opposite. Okay?
Yeah, Fox News also cares about the integrity of the DNC and the Democratic Party is also
funny.
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Love my main video editor comrades but I will fight until the shorts bar overtakes the long
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that highlights what you wanna do,
not what the other candidate can't do.
There's too much on the line, too much on the table,
and people deserve substance over punches tonight.
I want to welcome the two Democratic U.S. Senate candidates.
Now, would see these my favorite local Michigan broadcaster,
but I'll take it.
Haley Stevens, to both of you,
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Dr. Al-Sayed, you get the first opening statement tonight.
Root, studio audience, folks watching at home.
I am so grateful to be here.
My name is Abdul Al-Sayed.
I'm a doctor.
I became a doctor because I go 15 minutes from where I grew up
and traveled a difference of 10 years difference
in life expectancy.
Instead of practicing clinically,
I went into public health, rebuilt Detroit's Health Department,
led Wayne County's Department of Health,
Human and Veteran Services.
We did things like put glasses on kids,
took on corporate polluters,
made sure that our kids weren't breathing the worst coming out of smokestacks and eliminated medical debt.
But I'm running because it just shouldn't be this hard.
I've been down to 110 different cities, 475...
Haley, stop interrupting.
I could go to a living room in Lansing.
Haley, stop interrupting Abdul.
I need to be able to afford my groceries.
I need to be able to afford my gas.
I need to be able to see a doctor when I get sick.
My friend is going to frame this race about me and her.
It's not about that. It's about you.
It's about what you deserve.
It's about you deserving of politics.
That's not bought off by the same corporations
picking your pocket at every single turn.
I'm looking forward to the conversation
about how we get money out of politics,
put money in your pocket, and pass Medicare for all.
Thank you, Dr. Abdulal Sayed.
Next up, Congresswoman Hillie Stevens.
We have one minute for your opening statement tonight.
Well, thank you to everyone tuning in tonight.
As we know, the stakes of this race couldn't be higher.
Calls continue to go up.
Our healthcare, voting rights, civil rights,
It's all on the line in addition to social security
and Medicare.
And if Mike Rogers wins this race,
all goes by the wayside.
Look, Michigan deserves a senator who can win
and who can deliver.
That's why Abdul's gonna win!
On stage, who has flipped a Republican seat.
And I was named Michigan's most effective
Democratic Lawmaker in Congress.
Because my only focus is you.
Abdul is running for celebrity.
Republicans are propping up his campaign.
And Mike Rogers just the other day said,
Republicans are propping up your campaign with A-Pen!
It makes it easier for him to win,
that he's the one he wants to run against.
Look, this isn't about the DC or New York influencer crowd.
This is about putting Michigan first,
and I've got the receipts to do that,
which is why Governor Whitmer and so many others
are joining my campaign to win in November.
Congresswoman, Dr. I'll say thank you both
for your opening statements.
Listen, just want to give you an idea
of how we're going to do things.
A little bit differently from other debates
where perhaps it's a little more formalized.
This is going to be a conversation
where I'm the moderator, I'll ask you questions.
The time queues will be given by me, no clocks here,
so let's go and we'll begin with this.
So many people have questions about affordability.
It's the one number one thing we hear about from people.
What are they doing in Washington
to make sure that life is more affordable for me?
Dr. Elcied, what are you doing
that's something that perhaps we haven't heard before
in Washington that's different
to keep the cost of living down?
So let us tell you, for me, it's I don't take money from the corporations who are jacking
up your prices in the first place.
When you're bought off by DTE and Blue Cross and Big Pharma and Big Tech and APAC, don't
be surprised that there's a pro quo that comes with that quid.
That money doesn't just fall off free, $60 million from outside organizations in this
race.
They just go, whoa, where?
It's because those exact same organizations expect something on the other side and that's
that they get to expect to own your next U.S. senator.
So it starts with being able to say,
I'm the only candidate in this race
who doesn't take any money from corporations,
never have, never will.
And then from there, I actually can stand up to them.
I can do things like enforce our antitrust policies
that haven't been enforced.
I can do things like tax billionaires there well
so we could take that money and invest it in you
and your kids, in your schools.
I can do things like make sure that rather than sending
your money somewhere else to drop bombs
of other people and their kids, we can keep that money here at home.
And just in case you don't believe me, just think about this.
Just last week, our friend here voted to send $3.3 billion of your tax dollars
to a foreign government.
That is the pro quo that comes with a quid of $30 million spent by APAC.
So it really comes down to how are you funded?
Dr. Al Sayed, thank you.
Councilman Haley Stevens, we heard a lot from Dr. Al Sayed.
Some of that was about your record in Washington.
I want you to be able to address that, but also tell us what you would do to keep the cost of living down.
Our affordability crisis is choking us out here in Michigan.
You know, everywhere I go, if it's at the fish fry in downtown Detroit,
or the working single mom who just the other day told me her health care costs continue to go up,
that the grocery bill is only getting harder.
We don't need lip service. We need action.
We need to give Israel 3.3 billion dollars!
certain corporations are spending their money,
but let me tell you about what I am doing.
Because DTE and our utility companies
are selling out their payers,
and I'm giving them an option.
I'm saying DTE, either stop raising rates
or lose your federal funds and cut executive pay.
Look, we need proven fighters in these positions.
And that is what I have done time and time again.
I've got the receipts to show it and this is also why Governor Whitmer and A. G. Nessel,
you know, two proven fighters who want to see results in this race because Michigan,
it needs a workhorse in the United States Senate, sleeves rolled up, ready to tackle
our problems on day one.
And I'm not just stopping there.
Let's lower the cost of groceries with my bill.
No tariffs on groceries.
I do want to get in the weeds a bit with this because I want to ask you a very direct question
that so many people ask us, are these folks getting money from big utility?
Congressman Hillie Stevens, are you taking money for your campaign from D to your consumers?
No, but let me say this, Roop, I have been transparent.
I have been transparent throughout this campaign, and let me just say this, the action...
You got 30 grand from DTH, you should lie.
...that ever motivates my work, is the people of Michigan, the people who I hear from.
My opponent is on these big podcasts, you know, he's running a podcast himself.
These folks are making fun of the way I sound, but yet I sound like the people who need help.
Who are talking about what they want to talk about.
That was a follow-up to ask the direct question, whether you're taking money from Utah or not.
The answer is no.
Thank you.
Dr. Ells said, I'm asking you the same question.
Anybody from, anyone that we don't know about?
No and never.
$40,000 in direct receipts to her campaign from DTE's corporate PAC.
And then there's, I don't know, Center for Democratic Priorities, which released its
funders, but then they're behind these shell organizations, these 501c4s.
So I'd really like to revisit that question, because I don't know how to explain $40,000
directly to her campaign from DTE.
I'm the only candidate in this race who's never touched a dime of corporate PAC money.
I want to ask both of you about your campaigns, respectively, when it comes to certain questions
of people have, Congresswoman will begin with you and we'll talk about that right now.
I'm just going to say how can the people of Michigan trust you when you can't even be
honest right now?
And it seems as though on many instances you haven't directly answered the question.
Do you see why some people are bothered by the fact that so much money, 40 plus million
dollars has come from the guy for these PACs to talk about you and to promote you and to
put them, put you up as your candidate?
Yeah, and I appreciate the question, Ruth, because this moment in this country and here
in Michigan and people have every right to be frustrated about our campaign
finance system. My opponent here on this stage, Abdul, he's got a super PAC, got his
father-in-law funds that had millions of dollars going into it. And look, in terms
of foreign policy, you know, Abdul and I do differ. I believe in a two-state
solution. He is a technique by name for purporting that the people of Palestine
in the people of Israel deserve to live side by side peacefully. The goal is
always long-term peace and also the Prime Minister of Israel has to cook her.
Please cook her Abdul. Look, Michiganders want peace. They deserve to see peace and
that is where I have always cast my vote and that is the work that I want to do
from the U.S. Senate.
I want to specifically about APEC money.
More than $46 million has been spent on APEC spending to back your campaign.
A lot of people wonder if that is something where you're going to do their bidding when
you should win this seat.
Is that something people should be concerned about?
And if not, why not?
Absolutely not, Rope.
Look, I have been very...
Why are they giving you $46 million then?
Oh my gosh, Vox is cooking her.
Thank you, moderator.
I want to see a two state solution.
I am deeply proud to represent one of the largest Jewish populations in a congressional district.
Tel Aviv and Preece!
This is a community that I'm a great alongside, that I've mourned alongside, and have fought
to bring the hostages home, and I'm still working to get us to long-term peace.
But no concern about the 46 million plus dollars spent on the behalf of the state pact that
should why be ruled out, perhaps you doing their bidding should be in the state.
Well, I don't think there's much difference between super PACs going in for a dual or super PACs going in for me.
We have a problem with campaign finance for quite a bit in this country.
I have an A grading from N Citizens United.
I have been endorsed by Defend the Vote.
I have voted consistently and I'm going to start my fucking almost a hundred million dollars of difference.
States and which is why somebody like Governor Whitmer is supporting me in
this race. Congresswoman Stevens, thank you. I want to give some equal time here to
Dr. El Sayed and specifically I want to talk to you a little bit about this
genealogy that we all feel in this community which is about the Israel-Palestine
issue. It obviously has colored this election greatly. It colors the Democratic
Party. How do you see yourself moving forward? Should you become a senator here
handling the situation with Ibrahim, Israel, and Hamas.
So I just want to say the difference between us is $46 million of APAC spending.
They've set a record in this race to help elect my opponent because they know that she'll
be a reliable vote, just like she took last week to send your tax dollars to a foreign
government that is aiding, arming, and abetting the very people who want to foreclose on the
possibility of Palestinian self-determination.
Look, at the end of the day, my job is to take care of you here.
I want to be your U.S. Senator.
I want your tax dollars spent in Michigan
to provide schools in Michigan,
to build healthcare in Michigan,
to build roads in Michigan.
And I think that money sent over there to kill...
For what is happening,
is the moderator is actually being used to it.
The use of our tax dollars and yet,
that's exactly what $46 million in spending will buy you.
And I believe deeply that we have a responsibility
to make sure that we don't make other people's problems worse.
So I believe in equal rights,
peace, dignity and self-determination for Palestinians and Jewish Israelis alike.
I believe that we should not be fighting stupid wars that APAC wants us to fight in the first
place.
And I believe we have a responsibility to keep our money here to invest here.
That really is the difference.
We're being outspent in this race, 12 to 1.
Chances are you're going to see an ad, probably two of them, on behalf of APAC for my opponent
in the next commercial break.
That's what that vies you.
Lying about a record around President Obama's endorsement or lying about me and my character.
But that's exactly what happens when you stand up and say,
maybe Palestinians should have rights to,
and maybe we should have rights to our tax dollars here.
Dr. Ellison, I'm going to give Congresswoman a chance
to respond as you made a couple of accusations there
about our $5.00 bill.
As I said, I have been transparent.
And that is why I have.
No, you haven't!
No, you haven't!
You just say it!
But you haven't been!
You need to ask him, what's he hiding?
What are the Republicans going to do?
What's he hiding?
Electoral election that they will use against him.
I am the only non-mini in the House of Representatives.
What's he hiding?
What's he hiding?
I have been acting as an effective democratic lawmaker who has to govern in a clear, consistent
way on complex challenges.
I am beholden to the people of Michigan, the people who I hear from when I am in the grocery
store line, people who've broken down in tears, asking me how we can address this affordability
crisis.
That is what I am doing, that is what I will do on day one, and I have the receipts to
prove it.
Dana Nessel agrees with me.
Dr. Al said, I do want to ask you a question about the tone and the tenor of this campaign.
It is safe to say that everyone from Washington to Washington Township in Michigan are sick
and tired of people pointing fingers, screaming, yelling, and insulting one another.
We've seen a lot of that all across the country.
Just earlier this week we heard that there was some kind of a Zoom call in which you
You had referenced an opponent as Ogre on a pike,
and so many people took offense to that.
And it really pointed to the bigger question
about the tone and tenor that you've been accused
of having in this campaign.
Do you regret any of the comments that you've made?
And do you think that this race could take
a more productive and a more substantive tone
if we get those personal slams out?
Look, I took to Twitter last week and said that the tone
in which people talk about my opponent is unkind.
And I asked anybody who supported me
to not talk about her that way.
in fact when she got booed on the stage at the michigan democratic party convention
i called her personally and said that that was on time
my supporters had nothing to do with it but but i don't think that that's the way
we want to do politics
which is why they didn't stop attacking me and apologize to the mania who has
done terrible things
got elected on the set of values and is now completely throwing those values in
the mud
and i do think it's important for any senator in michigan to have a relationship
with folks who are in the u.s senate and if those folks are not actually acting
in accordance with what they got elected on, I think it's important for all of us to have
an honest opinion about what we're going to do to make sure that our Senate looks like
the people it represents.
But when we talk about unkindness, I also just want to speak to the fact that on behalf
of my opponent, UDP, another name for APAC, has been running attack ad after attack ad
after attack ad on my character.
I'm the father of two daughters.
I'm raising them to be stronger than any man.
My wife is a doctor.
My mother was the first 10-year professor of engineering at her university.
I was raised by strong women, to say that somehow,
because I wrote an op-ed 15 years ago about first lady
Michelle Obama, or I ran against Governor Whitmer
that somehow I'm disrespecting anybody,
it's just inconsistent with the truth.
So I really think it's important for my opponent
to speak to why she thinks it's okay
to spend $10 million of APAC money coming after my character.
I'd love to understand that because I went on Twitter
and I said that those comments are unkind.
I'd like to see the same thing.
Come on, so we're gonna get to some questions
from our audience.
You should have gone harder on her.
You should have gone harder on her.
To address that civility issue that is lacking severely
in American politics.
Is this something that the ads that you see on television,
whether you paid for them or whether someone else paid for them,
do you think they're doing an injustice to voters
by just filling the room with vitriol and hate
and not getting to the issues?
Well, look, there was something else.
Oh my God, this moderator, she's cooking her.
The ad Abdul was mentioning, which is that he said
that he's not going to be able to get much done,
that he's not focused on policy for the first two years,
that he is in the United States.
What about civility?
If he immediately goes back to acting on Abdul and saying,
again, Michigan needs a work force.
And I am offering these ideas on day one.
Carlson, respectfully, respectfully.
Oh my God!
You don't need to answer the question.
It's about civility.
It's about civility.
It's important to be transparent about what is being said here.
And look, Abdul's a great guy.
He's a great father.
Only he can account for saying that, you know,
Whitmer's bought and paid for or the act, you know, no one cares about Debbie
Stabenow or that Mallory McMurray isn't smart enough. You know, the ad is
certainly on him to respond to, which we certainly just did here from him on that.
Can our staff here all say that you have a quick minute? Look, I told you at the
outset that my opponent was going to make this race about me and her. But this is
about you. This is about whether or not you deserve a politics of the people by
the people and for the people or of the corporations by the billionaires and for
special interests. In an effort to talk about civility, I just took another attack and I just
want you to ask yourself, what is it that you deserve from your politics? Now, do you deserve
a politician more focused on their opponent because they want to be in a seat, or do you
deserve a politics where we're all asking, how do we actually serve you best? Because that's what
I was focused on here in this debate and I focused on for this entire 15 month campaign that we've
We've been running on
No, yeah, again for the record it was mr. Fetterman that was apparently called an ogre in the call not you
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The bar is so fucking unbelievably low for local media. These guys are
These guys are on a rocket ship over that bar
Michigan consistently ranks among one of the worst
worst for power reliability and rate affordability as
hotter summers and severe storms strain our infrastructure
What federal policies or grit or grid investment standards will you champion to ensure Michigan residents get reliable?
affordable. We'll begin with Congresswoman Ellie Stevens for an answer on that.
Yeah, well, and Hannah, thank you so much for asking such an important and
palpable question to so many Michiganders. It has been deeply frustrating
to see Donald Trump get rid of the clean energy tax credits. It has been deeply
frustrating to see our utility bills go up and up and up. These companies do not
care about the right payers and they are selling us how I am not offering lip
service to this issue. I'm offered the solution which is to say to these companies
either lower the rates or lose your federal funds. Look, I voted for the
infrastructure bill. I secured funds for us back here in Michigan. I want to do
more of that. Passing the largest climate bill in the history of this
country. Donald Trump's trying to erase it. We need a science forward agenda
delivering for us, meeting the moment for who our families are, what our children
deserve and that's why I'm from for the United States Senate and we have an
answer from Dr. Allison as well. And thank you so much for such an important
question. I just want to speak directly to what's happening right now. You've got
DTE which is the biggest spender in our entire politics. They spend on 93% of
the entire elected state legislature as well as most of our Congress people
including my colleague here and that allows them to get away with things like
building one of the largest hyperscale data centers in our state in X-parts
approval. Now that's fancy terms for saying approval without actually going through the normal
process and this is going to increase the load on our grid by more than twice. Now we just lost
our power for five days in a row because of a mid-level storm. We need to do a lot better.
To me it's about transparency in policymaking. People should not be able to take that money
and then turn the other cheek and then allow for these approval processes that are approval
processes at all. I still have yet to see a plan from DGE about how they're going to improve our
reliability while doubling more so the amount of electricity they're expected
to provide for a data center that nobody asked for. I put out in terms of engagement
because these data centers that was one of 15 that proposed last year alone. We
need to be serious about the incoming threat that's going to make all of this
so much worse.
Hit the fuck data centers but not for your questions.
I want to address both of the candidates and by the way we are going to get to some
text message questions as well from all of you at home so but I want to talk
specifically about your campaigns and I think it's not worthy that one of the
One of the other reasons we're doing this debate is to contrast the two of you, where
you stand on so many issues, but also on how you go about doing your business, how you
campaign.
Yeah!
That's what I'm saying.
I begin with you.
Socialists of America have not made an endorsement in this particular race.
But when you go to a rally, and we've covered so many of them, so many of them are from
that organization, who are you when it comes to your political stripes?
Many people call you progressive, some of accuse you of being a socialist.
that that's a bad word, but people might go. This guy is my go.
Where do you stand on your politics? How would you describe your politics?
I'm going to kiss him in the mouth when I go to fucking Michigan.
I want policy solutions that actually map to the problems that we face.
My governing experience is rebuilding a health department in the city of Detroit,
leading Wayne County's Department of Health, Human and Veteran Services.
We had to go in there and work with a diverse community to be asking what are the
challenges we face and how do we actually solve them.
we were able to identify the fact that our county ranked number eight for medical debt nationwide
and we could eliminate that for a penny on the dollar so we set aside seven million dollars to
erase up to seven hundred million dollars medical debt when kids couldn't get glasses 30 percent of
them would get tested positive for needing glasses. We put optometrists on vans outside of schools
so that as soon as the kid got a positive test they go out get a full optometric exam and get a pair
air glasses delivered within two weeks of the vision test.
Now, working with a diverse community of people,
you come to realize that not every solution
fits the same way.
You've got to be thinking about a solution in the right way.
When it comes to the question of socialism,
I'm not a socialist.
I'm just a capitalist who understands how capitalism works.
The biggest threat to capitalism was never
the idea of government regulation.
It was always monopoly.
I want you to think about the stuff that you have to buy,
whether it's your groceries and the number of stores
you can go to, or it's buying a flight to see your grandmother,
or it's by picking a phone or a phone provider.
You have like two or three options
and that shouldn't be legal,
but that's the way our economy works right now.
So I think government ought to be there
to regulate on monopolies and oligopoly
so that everybody can actually participate
in an economy without having to be forced to pay more
or get paid less for the work they do.
Congressman Stevens, another question about your campaign.
We've seen just in the last few days, of course,
Senator Sanders, we've seen AOC
and we've seen Elizabeth Warren just today
and they're all behind a duel.
These are the people who worked with you in the same room,
have watched you for your four terms.
So that concerned voters that they're taking
the outsider side in this case, you haven't met in a half.
Well, I think that we should look at the fact
that Brenda Lawrence, my longtime mentor and dear friend,
congresswoman from Oakland County representing
the Supreme Court, was the network
of the endorsement.
All my endorsements, all my endorsements,
don't look at the endorsers.
Senator Savin, I was Senator Peters.
Who, like myself, has been recognized
is the most effective lawmaker for our state.
But let me be really clear.
And the workhorse, and the workhorse,
I'm an effective legislator.
What are you going to do?
What are your policies?
Explain what fucking policy!
I have visited hundreds of small to mid-sized manufacturing
shop floors.
What policy!
I've braided CNC machines in my life previous
to being in elected office.
I have a deep passion for the bread and butter of our state
and a unique understanding of it.
So when Donald Trump and Mike Rogers
go to lick the bootstraps of China
and start a trade war with Canada, screwing us over
and selling us down the river,
I will be standing up for us
and securing things like what I did with the Chips
and Science Act to deliver for our youth
and equity and inclusion that is so very important
to our future, jobs for everyone, lower costs,
and yeah, stop these abuses of power
that are coming down from Trump and Rogers.
We have no policies, I'm losing it.
The only thing she can say is I vote
over the kids' size, that that's it.
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Get through a couple of them after the break.
I'm Rupraj.
We'll see you in a few minutes.
Rupraj, you are my goat.
You are my goat.
You are our legend, Rupraj.
Oh my God.
The fucking bar is so low.
The bar is so low, but the moderation I've seen so far from Michigan local broadcasts
has been fucking immaculate. It has been spectacular. Okay. The reason why I say this is not because
like he's, uh, Rup Raj is, is, you know, in the fucking pocket of Abdul al-Sahed or anything.
No, he's just being truthful. He's actually holding an indirect answer, uh, as, as not
enough. That's why he just keeps asking the same question because Haley Stevens, if you
recall if you recall I told you this okay Haley Stevens never answers a direct
question she never answered a direct question she just does the yokel shit
right oh I might you per I got a you per action I'm right love Michigan I'm gonna
fight for Michigan over and over again Roop Raj don't play those games okay Roop
Raj says I don't give a fuck I'm Michigan too I'm Michigan too motherfucker
Answer the goddamn question and that is great. I got the receipts. Oh, I'm from Michigan. Abdul is a scary Muslim
He hates women. That's all Haley Stevens is deployed so far one of the great moments in that debate
One of the great fucking moments in that debate was when Abdul was like look what it's just what kind of politics
Do you want to see do you want to see a politics of of?
Incivility and constantly attacking your opposition or do you want to a politics that puts you at the front and center?
your issues. That was fucking awesome. That was awesome. And it's true. It's just, yeah,
can't run from the Raj, dude. Yeah. Even when she was like, Oh, you called me an ogre and he
had to literally correct her and be like, no, he called Senator John Fetterman an ogre as a
Uber. She does not sound like a Uber. I don't know what her deal is, but she's not one of us. I know,
I've heard Upers also say that. Do you agree with him being a capitalist or do you think
he was scurred in the question and not supporting socialism? I don't care. I don't care that
Abdul Al Sayed, running for Senate, says he's a capitalist, a DSA supporter, okay? It doesn't
matter to me. His policy platform is damn near identical to Bernard Sanders, okay?
That's what I care about, especially considering that, you know, Zoramum Dhani is not exactly
running on a platform of seizing the means of production and no democratic socialists
is running on this platform.
I don't give a shit.
I do think this is the last election cycle where someone will run for statewide office
while shying away from adopting the moniker. I will tell you that. This will be the last
statewide office, the last election cycle where people running for statewide office
will shy away from saying that they're socialists. That's what I think.
Yuper, is someone raising the upper peninsula? She's from Detroit, which is a long ways from
the up. I know, I know, I know. I know she hams it up. We know she's not being legit.
I've already talked about this, the reason why she, she hams up her accent is specifically
because she hams up her accent, specifically because it's a great way to deflect away from,
from just not, it's a great way to deflect from her position. She always will deflect and be like,
oh, he's just, they're attacking, they're attacking me, they're attacking my positions.
Haley Stevens did not take any money from DTS energy pack. We checked. She did. Yeah.
All these texts, yours could be asked next. We'll also hear from our studio audience as well.
And so we begin with this text message, but Dr. Abdul Al Sayed and also
Congresswoman Haley Stevens, how will you bring back manufacturing jobs and secure longevity
for the big three? Congresswoman, you had a chance to address this earlier when it
You suck at farming, subs? Oh shit, you're right.
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I think we need to ban stock buybacks. This is this process process. I said maybe corporations will literally buy their own stock to artificially raise their stock price
Taking money away from the future of r&d and the workers themselves number two
I actually think that there's a path. I'll take the same gift. You were fast on that around the clock
Everyone I think that there's a place for magic cbm with a hundred free trade like cancer
I think we need some chemo and the way that that would work is that they were transparent
specific directed to particular product lines. And then number three, I think we
need to massively invest in being continuing to be the best place to make
an internal combustion engine in the world and also to invest in EVs and EV
infrastructure. I don't know why there's no hype for a new company. I don't believe in a mandate, but what I do believe is that you should be able to buy a
$25,000 300 mile range car brought to you by the Big 3. Why? Because that's the
way that we're going to be able to create a product line that can compete all over the
world with the kinds of cars that China is now manufacturing and eating our lunch on.
But that means we have to invest in workers and that really is the most important piece
here.
The UAW has built the American automotive industry.
We need to be invested in them.
We need to make sure that we continue to have the best manufacturing and engineering talent
in the world.
And that means ending the restriction that we've seen and it means investing in our
workers again. Again, we have an opportunity to continue to lead if we're willing to actually
think past the ridiculousness of the Trump administration into what the future can be
and into how we continue to invest in workers, engineers and a product line be fit for the
future.
Congressman, I know you have a lot of notes and a lot in your mind and heart about manufacturing,
but does it disturb you at all that the UAW put their endorsement dual when you've done
all this stuff for manufacturing that you talked about?
I am so deeply proud to have a long-standing relationship with retirees and UAW members
and to have 17 labor endorsements in this race by a long shot and I'm also very proud
to have receipts and plans and I'll show you where I'm leading the charge.
Costs are killing us in our manufacturing sector.
All right, the trade war with Canada has sold us out.
These questions are awesome.
You met.
I mean, it's a good question.
mostly in down river that are out of work right now.
You know, Mike Rogers wants to rubber stamp all of this.
The stakes couldn't be higher.
November is 50-50.
He said on the leaked call, he wants to run against a duel.
He knows that I pass bipartisan wins for Michigan, which
most are.
Thank you for the two hundo.
Your dependence on China, that I want to do that
with critical minerals, which can yield cost and create jobs
and continue to tell us as a manufacturing company.
And look, Rope, I was deeply proud to play a role in the Obama administration.
Policy, policy, give me one policy, not something that you were tangentially related to.
And Chrysler and hundreds of thousands of man-capturing jobs across our state.
One future policy, please!
But it was policy that worked.
We cannot take for granted that this incredible state of ours, Michigan,
is just one of a handful left in the country
whose central economy, all the jobs,
drive through manufacturing.
I'm gonna be the champion for that
in the United States Senate,
and I'm gonna run through anyone and anything
that gets in my way to deliver for us.
You know, one of the things,
and one of the reasons we wanted this debate
to happen right now, just hardly what a week away
from the big election is because people
don't always understand the differences
between the two of you.
Some of them are clear, some of them are not.
So I'm going to ask you a question that is, is, is really mirrored in this text message
from one of our Fox two viewers.
And I think this is really a poignant question.
Which one have you got?
I'll begin with you.
What is the number one thing Senate Democrats are failing to do right now that you would
do differently?
Well, number one, I just think the filibuster itself is anti-democratic and we had an opportunity
to break the filibuster.
Now let me just talk about what the filibuster is.
The filibuster is a process by which all of the Senate can hide behind one senator who
wants to filibuster which requires a 60 vote threshold to break and that means
that you need 60 votes to pass something when it really should just be the
majority number of votes I oppose the filibuster I think the filibuster has
been anti-democratic for a lot of reasons and once you get past that we have
the opportunity to get money out of politics to take on Citizens United we
have the opportunity to put money back in pockets by doing things like passing
the pro act to stand with unions like the UAW who have endorsed us we have the
opportunity to start changing and enforcing our antitrust policy so a
few corporations can't pick your pocket at every turn. We have the opportunity
to tax billionaires their wealth and we have the opportunity to finally
guarantee every single person in this country health care through Medicare for
all. But we've got to get the democracy part of it right and right now the
biggest risk to our democracy are the filibuster it's anti-democratic at the
Senate and money in politics. The attack ads that you've seen probably in the last
commercial break itself that change our political system. When you ask 60
million dollars to come into a race for you and then say that somehow you're
electable, I think you don't quite understand what electability means. If
you need a 60 million dollar crutch, you probably can't be elected on your own
terms. So I would just say that you should probably, if you really want to
beat Mike Rogers, find the candidate who is electable without having to ask for a
60 million dollar crutch to do it.
Collin Swann?
Well look, you talk about the senators who've come in here from the coast to campaign alongside of dual.
And I think one of the things they are really missing
is what we need here in Michigan.
You know, an understanding of what makes our state tick.
You know, go and visit a small business.
Do I think that DNC will undermine
our Bolivia Winsnell?
He's such a stud.
I know it's great to hold those rallies
and have these fun events.
Not like Zoran and the General in Michigan.
No, DNC will back up to 100%.
To visit a minority owned business.
I want to see my bill.
He's so buttoned up and so well put together.
He is an unbelievable asset.
So things like what we have on the Avenue of Fashion,
which is a national best practice,
that we can do that in Saginaw and Muskegon.
DSC doesn't even have money,
but the DSCC will back them for sure.
But our tax code and our tax dollars aren't working for us,
which is why I have state such a big part of my campaign
on hope and equity.
so that every zip code gets equal investment.
I have fought to bring these dollars in the Pontiac
and I'm darn proud of it.
You know, for the bridge and for youth recreation,
we need to continue to do that across the state
and the people who aren't from here,
who are so eager to campaign here,
they shouldn't really come and spend some time
with the residents and the people who I'm hearing from
each and every single day.
Look, there's a lot to be proud of for Michigan,
But there is so much we could be doing to do more for folks.
I believe the question.
I just want to make sure that the viewer had the question
answer, because I think it was about what was going wrong
in the Senate.
And we got this conversation about why senators should come
visit, which is actually exactly what they just did.
But I just also want to just be clear about this,
that at the end of the day, yes, you
should go to small businesses.
That's actually what we've done.
We've also gone to 475 public events
where we actually took questions from an audience,
rather than these baked and polished, made for camera
events that too often is the way that my friend has campaigned.
And so, look, we do bring people in because we want to actually introduce them to
Michiganders. And wouldn't it be better if one of our senators went to the Senate
with colleagues ready to work with them on day one?
Well, I do want to ask you both about contrasting something that I think is
really important right now. When we talk about ICE, this is something that obviously
has seemed to kind of calm down a bit, but it's still fundamentally important to
everyone who's watching right now.
Congresswoman Stevens, where do you stand on ICE
and the funding for ICE and where things should be going?
Well, I am leading the charge in the Congress right now
to redirect $70 billion of your tax money,
Michigander's taxpayer money,
that went to ICE at the expense of your healthcare,
at the expense of food benefits,
all things that I am hearing from on Michiganders
where they are experiencing pain points.
We've got to redirect that $70 billion back into communities.
I called for Kristi Noem to go.
She was fired.
But guess what?
No reforms.
Not a penny more for this rogue agency
that is wreaking havoc.
Look, I've talked to administrators at Harms Elementary
in Detroit.
Parents who are afraid to drop their kids off
or school because of these ICE raids.
This isn't working for us.
This is abuse of power.
And I am standing up to Trump right now
on these abuses of power, not shouting into a bullhorn,
not getting in front of the first camera I see,
but doing the hard work.
That is what Michigan deserves.
Look, my opponent here, Abdul,
he is such a talented guy, he's written three books.
He said 300 podcasts.
You know, he's had all this attention,
but the deal is, is we don't need a celebrity candidate.
We don't need a celebrity senator.
We need somebody who is committed to six years of hard,
unglamorous work.
The person who's calling us a celebrity
literally worked for the Detroit Public Health Department
by the way.
And causing chaos right before our very eyes.
It's unacceptable.
All right, Congressman, thank you.
Dr. El Sayed, you heard Congressman Stevens there say,
essentially, strip away some of the funding for ICE.
Is that not good enough?
Well, she's also voted to raise ICE funding four times.
That's the part that you didn't hear.
Four times voted to raise ICE funding.
voted to thank ICE, in fact.
So this is the same kind of DC hypocrisy,
I hate to say it, that we often see,
say one thing in front of a camera, do another thing.
I said that we need to abolish ICE.
ICE is not about immigration.
ICE is not about the Southern border.
We can have a safe and secure Southern border.
We can also enforce immigration policy.
But ICE is not about that.
ICE is about normalizing paramilitary force on our streets.
And I just want to push back on the idea that-
What is this garing?
What's going on?
I mean, I was just in Genesee County this weekend,
And you had raids in Saginaw.
People are scared to death.
And we've got a congresswoman who tells you
that she's against the ICE, has voted to raise ICE funding,
voted to thank ICE, called the people who work in ICE,
I don't know, very fine public servants
and other things when she went and visited herself.
So I'm just saying that I do the thing
that I say I'm gonna do.
I don't think ICE needs to exist
for the better part of our country's history.
We did not have an ICE,
and I think we can dial a much better job
when it comes to immigration without one.
And here's the last thing I just want to say.
No notes, no notes, no notes.
When it comes to the question of immigration,
we need Democrats who are gonna stand up
and actually talk about the great good
that immigration has done for our country
in the first place.
The idea that somehow we can't say abolish ICE
because we're so afraid of what they're gonna say.
When we've seen ICE terrorize people in our streets,
to me, it is exactly the kind of cowardice
that we don't need from Democrats.
So yes, I'm gonna take the bullhorn.
Boosting it is a fire.
And I'm gonna say that I think we need to abolish ICE
because I am not afraid of what they're gonna say about me.
Doctor, I do wanna follow up though with both of you.
isn't saying abolish ICE like saying defund the police,
is that just busting the whole thing open,
or do you believe that in order to have enforcement,
you need to have an agency that knows how to do it?
Yeah, well, I just also ran government agencies.
And I know that when a culture of impunity
sets into a government agency,
it becomes almost impossible to take out.
And so I think the agency as it exists
does not need to exist.
That's not to say that we are not going
to keep our streets secure.
That's not to say that we're not going to enforce immigration policy.
That's not to say that we shouldn't have a safe, secure side on the border.
That's the same way we did it for most of our history.
For most of our history, we didn't have ICE.
We had INS, and they were targeted.
They obeyed the laws of this land.
They terrorized people.
It's people with crimes.
It's people with preschools.
It's not a real crime.
They didn't run up in schools and churches.
They understood that their job, yes, was to enforce immigration policy, but they did
it under the protection of the Constitution itself, and that's what we're losing here.
You've got ICE agents who do not understand that the central law of this country is the Constitution itself
ICE has become a tyrannical agency and I think there is no way to
You have been on video saying on social media before about the fine people of ICE
Do you do you feel differently about that? Do you believe that both can be true?
Let me just be very clear
All right, I went up to an ICE detention facility to call out and see why people were losing their lives.
Who brought a real Baltimore Malice?
He critiqued socialism to make it better.
and look a lot of you remember Abdul from when he first ran for governor in
2018 it didn't work out so he started the podcast he wrote the books and now
he's running for Senate and he's all she does is fogging attack on bulls just
another rung on all he's too famous me the question is a fucking question this
about Mike Rogers. Mike Rogers! I got endorsed by Gretchen Whitmer. Say something
direct for the state and for our values, for our rights and our freedoms. And I
promise you, Michigan, I will make us shine. Dr. Alsaya, there are people watching
this right now and every time they hear this podcast business or scratching their
heads, they're putting food on the table, gas in the tank, they're curious to know
What that's about have you made a ton of money because of podcasts? Yeah, I don't know
Like I told all the viewers at the outset that while my opponent was going to make this about me and her
I want to make this about you somehow. She just really you can listen to the podcast. It's there
Congresswoman if you enjoy podcasts about public health, I welcome you to take a listen
You seem very concerned about that
I'm more concerned about the fact that people can't pay for their gas. They can't pay for their groceries
We're fighting a war that's cost us billions of dollars that has been pushed by the the government of a foreign country
The same foreign country that the folks paying for your ads want us to send billions of dollars to and that's the thing
That I think Michigander's really want under to want to understand
They're not that worried about the fact that I hosted a podcast
They're worried about the fact that right now for a lot of folks their kids go to schools that are unbecoming of
Their future they are worried about the fact that they can't gas up their car because it costs what 450 a gallon
They're worried about the fact that the same corporations who funded your campaign are raising
rates on the things that they can't go without, like their power. So I'd really like us to focus
on the things that actually matter, which have nothing to do with the podcast, have everything
to do with the future of Michigander's that we would like to serve. Yeah, but it also is about
transparency. And you have not released your full tax returns, $300,000 in other income while you sat
in the podcast chair, and you hawked junk healthcare cures that RFK Jr. would thumbs up. You talk
about getting money out of politics and putting money in people's pockets, but
still no one knows who's putting the money in your pocket. You know, I have
been transparent and I am offering you have not planned to address the cost of
living crisis. We want to be able to tackle Donald Trump. And what you're
talking about, well you did, but you also made some accusations here. Dr. El Sayed,
that is a question that some people may have that that Congresswoman's talking
about. Talk about the money and the financial disclosures. You were going
release something. We released all of our financial disclosures. Again, this is a
distraction from the issues in your life. I'd love to talk about transparency. I
really would because I want you to ask yourself, there is this group called the
Center for Democratic Priorities. They didn't exist until they popped up and
started running ads for my opponent and then there's this other group called
Center Forward that paid for a flight for the congresswoman and her mother to
go to Portugal and they just released their donors and then it's a whole bunch
of Shell 501c4 organizations.
They're the folks who are literally putting money in our pockets right now to try and
miss and disinform us about this race.
And here's the thing about it, none of it actually makes your life better.
Think about the 60 million dollars that got spent in this race.
What could 60 million dollars do for a community in Detroit?
What could 60 million dollars mean for a racing medical that I'll tell you?
Six billion dollars it could erase.
But they want to spend it to get the congresswoman elected.
Why?
at the end of the day, they know that they're going to have a safe seat doing their bidding
instead of yours.
Every single dollar that DTE is spending is a down payment.
She's knowing that they can raise your rates.
Every single dollar that Blue Cross is spending is a down payment on raising your income.
Every single dollar comes with something.
I want to ask some more questions from our audience and our audience.
I got them right here.
The next question is how will you ensure low income communities receive adequate education?
We've heard so many people say Michigan ranks 44th when it comes to literacy for 4th graders.
Let's start with Congressman Hillys.
Move fucking brown tail, baby!
What are you trying to do with it?
Should you become 7th?
Well, we are certainly being robbed by Washington, D.C. and Donald Trump.
Double the order!
Which is the Oval Office, like a stock trade floor.
This is why I want to end the corruption of seeing people who want to be celebrities
or get famous or rich in office.
I want to ban stock trading folks.
I'm the only non-millionaire in this race, but let me tell you something about what I have worked on
And what I am fighting for full funding for special education
You know our public schools here in Michigan are getting the short end of this stick
And if we fully fund special education
We could meet the needs that a family and Royal Oak has talked to me about
about where they feel finally she's talking about a policy. This is your
first time. I think special complex medical needs actually gets the
education they deserve. She is falling apart. She feels frazzled. I get you can
see it reinstate the cuts that Donald Trump cut. We have got to expand these
programs and I consider myself a warrior for public education. And this is how
I was outside a millionaire. I don't know if he is, but his wife is a doctor.
He was a doctor. We never actually became a practicing physician,
but he had a podcast, he wrote books.
He was a first grade teacher. Bro, he's, he's a fucking Rhodes scholar.
Of course he has a lot of money. What are we talking about?
Small business. And so I want to see more people go into that profession,
go into it.
He's worth like 1.7 at the spoke boy, dude.
That is going to certainly solve a lot of problems for us.
Dr. Ells said you heard the congressman say you need to write the grant money.
Is that part of the solution here?
What do you think?
You know you asked a really important question about education.
I'd like to answer that question.
I'm proud of the fact that the American Federation of Teachers has endorsed me in this race.
And they've done it because of the Obama-Trump project of public schools.
I know what it's like to walk into a public school in Detroit in January.
And kids are bundled up because the boiler's broken trying to learn how to read.
talk about a literacy crisis, how do you learn how to read when you have to wear a coat in the
middle of the day? We put glasses on kids' faces specifically because we knew that it doesn't matter
what's happening on the blackboard if you can't see the blackboard. But we need to radically
rethink how we do public education in this country. We are not invested nearly enough. I want to tie
the support for public education through the Department of Education, which by the way needs
not just to be brought back but fully invested in, I want to tie that funding to the Department
of Defense.
So when they try to raise the Department of Defense budget, we're going to make sure
we're invested in public schools too.
I also think that the way that we have funded local education, specifically school buildings,
has too often ported the historical racism of the past.
Right now we fund school buildings based on property tax.
Property tax is a function of property value, the function of who's been able to live where
has a function of redlining from the past.
And when we say that that same process should be patterning the social mobility of the future
through public schools, that's a real problem.
But I just want to say this.
I actually agree with the congresswoman on one really critical thing.
We are being robbed.
The money that we should have to invest in our schools is being sent to foreign governments
to destroy other people's schools instead of investing in our own.
And that is exactly what APAC wants you to do and why they're spending so much money to
get the congresswoman.
Dr. I'll say it, congresswoman, it's one point in which at least partially you agree on,
as one of you will be taking on Mike Rogers.
want to know what are the defining differences. This next question comes to
us from a young person herself who actually is a student in Detroit, a
college student. We thank you so much, Kamora, for being with us here today.
What's your question to the candidates? Good evening candidates. My name is Kamora
Riddick and I'm a Wayne State University junior studying broadcast journalism.
And my question is about the wildfires. So the wildfires from Canada deeply
affect Michigan's air quality, especially in Detroit. What environmental
measures are you planning to decrease the dangers of air pollution?
Let's start with Congresswoman Olyseus.
Yeah, that is so great to have a student from Wayne here.
I've just treasured working at that university and their science program
and STEM education, and that is very much at the heart of why we need good,
smart, and powerful.
Not the junk science that we are getting from the Trump administration.
Let me tell you what I think that looks like.
One, we've got to cut the carbon emissions.
We've got to lessen our dependence on big oil and gas.
Investments like I secured in our clean energy future
so that from Marquette to Detroit,
we were evolving and moving forward.
That has been stripped away by Donald Trump,
and that's not right.
But it's also not enough to just say,
Hey, we're going to go in there and just fight Trump.
We've got to put forward our own creative ideas,
which is why for four times I've sat here
on the science committee, securing resources,
looking at alternatives for plastic and our supply chain.
This is an opportunity for Michigan,
manufacturing, Michigan innovation to shine.
I want to make sure that we are leading the way.
and then when Kamara is a broadcast personality,
she's talking about the things that we have secured
in the United States Senate for Michigan,
for our jobs and for our clean energy future.
Dr. Al-Sayed, clean air.
Kamara, just be careful.
If you become a broadcast personality,
somebody might come after you.
I just wanna speak specifically to your question.
I can tell you about what we've already done.
We put air quality monitors all over Wayne County,
so folks can get real-time information
about the air that they're breathing.
We took on some of the biggest corporate polluters in our state when I was in the city of Detroit,
took on Marathon Petroleum, the biggest polluter in the most polluted zip code in the state,
forced them to invest their own money to reduce emissions when they had wanted to increase
them.
The truth of the matter is that these wildfires are happening more often because it's drier
and hotter than it has been in the past.
It's drier and hotter because we continue to rely on fossil fuels for our energy.
We need to get to 100% renewable energy.
And the only way we're going to do that is by taking the chevrons and the exons of the
world out of our politics.
Now, guess who's campaign they supported?
Well, if you guessed my colleagues and colleague,
you probably guessed right, because yes,
they have both given to that campaign.
So when you hear ideas of things that ought to be done,
but they never actually get done,
you should ask yourself why it doesn't get done.
Well, because the people who sell oil in this country
fund the politicians who make sure
that they can keep selling oil.
Dr. Alassay at Congresswoman, thank you so much.
We have another text question,
one of the many, many text questions.
This one I think is important because again,
My main goal and our main goal of us too,
let's differentiate between the two of you.
What are the big differences here?
So what would you do on your first day in office?
We'll begin with you, Dr. Al Sayed.
What would you do on your first day of office
should you become a senator?
Anybody who knows me knows that getting people healthcare
is the passion of my life.
I went to medical school only to realize
that too often our healthcare system
is part of the problem.
We need and deserve guaranteed healthcare
through Medicare for all.
I have been thinking about this question.
In fact, I've testified to the U.S. Senate twice.
This wouldn't be my first time walking
into the chamber, on Medicare for All guaranteeing healthcare, on eliminating the medical debt
in this country, $225 billion.
Now on Medicare for All there is work that we're going to have to do.
We're going to have to get a president elected who can do it in 2029.
Now in the process though, I actually think that we could eliminate all the medical debt
in this country, $225 billion.
So you understand what that is.
That is the amount of the GDP of more than half of U.S. states in this country.
So on day one, I want to offer medical debt relief to everybody.
I think we could get bipartisan support to do it, and I'd love to get that done.
And let's start working for Medicare for All, and then let's make sure that we can get money
out of politics so that big farmlands and the big insurances of the world aren't in the
way when it comes down to finally getting this done for all Americans.
Congressman, in a minute and a half, tell us what you do in your first day in office.
Yeah.
Day one, we have to stand up to the abuses of power.
it from somebody who has been recognized as our most effective lawmaker. I'm gonna go
to the United States for elected officials. He's going to Tel Aviv. For candidates, for
those offices, I am going to get it done. I am sick and tired of seeing Donald Trump
sell us out to the highest bidder. Go cut deals with every other country, except for
for cutting deals for us here in Michigan.
We have been paying the price and it is not acceptable.
And speaking of prices,
day one actions to lower costs
and to invest in small businesses,
minority owned businesses right here in Michigan.
Those are your tax dollars.
And I believe in the effective stewardship of them
so that they go back to our communities here.
And I've got the receipts for that.
I've got the proof points for that.
And then lastly, we've got to make sure
that the jobs of the future are coming from the place
that we all love to call home,
which is why my manufacturing agenda on day one
will also be in the hopper.
I got all the bills ready to go, Rup.
We have 30 seconds left for each of you
to answer the following question.
What makes you think you're the formidable candidate
who can take on Mike Rogers?
30 seconds, Dr. Al Sayed.
Well, poll after poll after poll has shown,
despite what my colleague says,
that I am the most competitive candidate
take on Mike Rogers. But it's also this, that you've got to have something you're fighting for.
Ask yourself, if DTE funds both Mike Rogers and Hailey Stevens, who wins? DTE wins. And Blue Cross,
and Big Pharma, and Big Tech, and APAC, all funded by the same people. You need a choice. I'm the only
candidate in this race who does not take corporate money. And so I offer a real contrast to a guy
who has never seen a corporate dollar he did not want.
Tell us something, Hailey Stevens, 30 seconds.
Well, look, Governor Whitmer, Attorney General Nessel, the chair of the Michigan Legislative
Black Caucus, Amos O'Neill, they all agree that I will be Michigan's workhorse, that
I will stand up for us on day one, that I will beat Mike Rogers just like I have beat
Republicans four times over.
Thank you so much.
Congresswoman Haley Stevens, Dr. Al Sayed, the vote is now in the people's hands a week
away across the conversation.
That's crazy.
Those are going to be real fighters.
Yes, this is local.
My opposition is funded by Mike Rogers and Haley Stevens is funded by the same people. They don't care who wins
This makes her less electable
She goes I'm a workhorse and I got Dana nestle the attorney general's endorsement
I'm just curious if she has the receipts. Yeah, I have the receipts
Oh hell yeah, I can't wait to hear the fucking reaction. Okay, that was an incredibly impressive
showing. That was an unbelievably impressive showing, tremendous messaging discipline.
It was unique. It was multifaceted lines of attack. Obviously, Hayley Stevens is a target
rich environment if we're being real. But God damned it, Abdul Cook. Holy shit. He might
as well, just drop the doctor and call himself the chef, baby. Cause he was chopping that
shit up and down the block. Oh my God. It is actually a flex getting their endorsements.
Stop laughing. We may be cooked this on. No, it's not. It's not, especially not on this
debate stage. The endorsements stand on their own. Okay. Gretchen and Dana Nessel are popular.
Dana Nessel is not. Gretchen is, but she's losing her popularity in the fucking state.
If you think Dana Nessel is popular, you're out of your fucking mind.
Dana Nessel is not popular at all. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you even from
Michigan? Gretchen Whitmer used to be a lot more popular, no longer as popular in the
state. But ultimately, ultimately, ultimately, what matters most in this
circumstance is like what you are, what you are voting for, what you're
advocating for. Abdul explain that. From the questions of the media, there is
other people, there are other people in that spin room that are not part of Fox
2 that want to learn more from the candidates. So we're gonna hear more
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Is there something else you want to hear and clear up from tonight's debate?
And some some of you might be a little bit more confused.
In fact, I'm reading some of our comments on social media, on YouTube and so much more.
So I want to hear from you guys.
I would love to actually get you guys in our live zoom.
That's going to happen later in our reaction room.
Again, a live look right now at our spin room where we're going to hear from each candidate individually.
Now, I do want to recap a few moments that really set the tone of this debate beginning
with the APAC money.
This has been a question that a lot of us have been really looking at for answers for.
Let's listen in to what was said during that part of the debate.
Many people ask the question about APEC.
What is this fucking aim?
It seems to me that in many instances you haven't directly answered the question.
Do you see why some people are bothered by the fact that so much money, 40 plus million
dollars has come from APEC for these PACs to talk about you and to promote you and to
put you up as a candidate?
Yeah, and I appreciate the question, Ruth, because this moment in this country and here
in Michigan people have every right to be frustrated about our campaign finance
system my opponent here on this stage of dual he's got a super PAC that is
by the way millions of dollars going into it and look in terms of foreign
policy you know a dual and I do differ I believe in a two-state solution he is
a technique by name for purporting down to Palestine and the people of Israel
deserve to live side by side peacefully. The goal is always long-term peace. And also,
the prime minister of Israel has attacked me by name.
No, you fucking idiots. It's probably from the live broadcast.
I wasn't having a conversation in the kitchen, you dummies.
It's literally the Fox broadcast, Mike. You guys are so stupid. There's no one in the house right now.
Now, in dollars has been spent on APAC spending to back your campaign.
A lot of people wonder if that is something where you're going to do their bidding when
you, if you should win this seat.
Is that something people should be concerned about?
And if not, why not?
Absolutely not, Rup.
Look, I have been very clear, consistent and transparent.
And I have continued to be.
I want to see long term peace.
I want to see a two state solution.
I am deeply proud to represent one of the-
What was the audio?
Don't gaslight it. Okay. Now I'm gonna fucking get I'm gonna is this it have been really looking at for answers for
Many people ask the question about on social media on YouTube and so much more
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You fucking idiots. You fucking idiots. You didn't if you didn't say anything sensitive. It doesn't really matter. No
No
Why are you like this
Why are you fucking like this what you think I was on the I was in the background I
Teleported to the fucking studio in Detroit
We're talking about this because not only do we have the spin room coming up where we're
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That's going to be our post-debate, post-spin room coverage, and that's because we want
to hear from you, all the people that are watching tonight.
What are your thoughts?
Why?
Why are you guys like this?
actually mentally ill know 100% the real Hasan is there in the room prove
that you didn't teleport there why are y'all like this man yeah he asked me he
asked specifically about the Senate race and look my yeah yeah yeah yeah he just
asked about my my current campaign yes and did you have something you take
donations from consumers and DTE look I'm gonna look I'm I'm running to beat my
You know, and you heard tonight, my opponent, you know, make all these wild accusations talking about how employee monies that come from corporations are the root of the problem, except I'm leading the charge to take on DTE right now.
I am leading the charge to say that you were screwing over your ratepayers and I am going to strip your federal funds and force you to cut executive pay.
I think that is damn good for the people of Michigan and what they need right now.
right now. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're not answering. Yeah, I was trying to
get to the United States Senate, like you can keep pushing me. I have no idea, you know,
if we're going to be able to do these major reforms. But what I can, I want to, I want
to see us get these reforms done. I want to bend, you know, the way in which these laws
that hold us back just last week, I said free ball free ball for any journalist on the state
wants to get a good fucking clip attack and attack me I'd never pushed for a
direct answer the entire time you know I am leading the church to take on his
abuses of power you know I'm gonna vote for comprehensive campaign finance
reform I'm not gonna speculate about what employees groups are gonna come
together but you know what I will say I will say this you know some of these
groups you know with the auto companies and this and that my work in the
Congress has always been directed towards the people of Michigan. I have 17
labor endorsements in this race the most by a long shot most of the building
trades and the labor unions but thank you so much for pushing on the question I
appreciate that that's about the conversation
personal financial disclosure, I understand,
but you might have just released it like two hours ago.
And we still don't have the full tax return.
What should we glean from what you did release today?
I guess, go up those things.
I think it was released like when we were pulling in.
So I don't know.
But it's just the bigger hundreds of thousands
of Michiganders voted.
We're talking about the campaign finance system.
Why is this leading candidate on the stage here
not releasing his full tax return and being transparent with us
we're going to go into a general election and these republicans have got all
the dough
in the world to try and flip the seat you got rogers
already saying
he wants to run against a dual because he thinks it makes a big day are funding
your campaign
a pack is
sponsored by
mega billionaires you have highlighted
numerous racist articles written by news outlets
that are owned by the likes of Paul Singer, for example,
who is one of the fucking major donors to A-Pack.
That's crazy.
You're, your campaign is the one that's funded
by right wing billionaires.
I wonder if just talking to some of the Trump supporters
there that seem to be licking their chops,
no matter who wins the prize.
76% that tonight's debate changed
who you're voting for.
Yeah, they're 77% said no,
because they're all voting for Abdul and 20% that was going to vote for Haley
Stevens is now saying yes. I think what you have in the Michigan Democratic
Party right now is the best of democracy on display here in Michigan. Abdul has
put forward his ideas, I put forward mine, you know he's
You haven't! We don't know where your ideas are! For governor, then he continued to go on with his
is book writing and that's when I think he started
that podcast show.
We still don't know exactly who was paying him for that
or where that money came from, especially last year
when he was running for Senate.
Cause I was just working and standing up to Trump last year
when I was running for this position.
And so look, no one's talking about Mike
because he's doing nothing.
He lost to Alyssa Slotkin.
He's told us very clearly what he wants to do,
which is rubber stamp Trump.
He's being dishonest with the people of Michigan.
And he knows that on November 3rd,
I will beat him and become Michigan's next US senator,
delivering for us on day one to lower costs,
to stand up for our manufacturing sector rather,
and to stop Trump's abuse of power.
Congresswoman, are you picking up on that?
What is your plan to win over the more stubborn
of dual supporters, that he has broad control
that maybe weren't involved in past elections.
Well, look, I'm gonna work my heart out to earn every vote.
I'm really proud to have a unique rapport
with independent voters, as I always have.
And I'm really proud of the unique coalition
that I've built, you know, mayors from Blancing
and Farmington Hills and Grand Rapids
who, you know, have endorsed my candidacy.
And I'm so proud to be on the team.
you know i'm on the team that believes in universal health care
on using the tax code so you think the book writing out of the work i hate
book writer so i'm gonna vote steve is now
creation and so that industrial policy like what i champion and got done
for the chips and science act uh... can be achieved
in the form of she growing on me yet like a fucking cancer cell did
and so i've been so unbelievably annoyed with the stick that she pulls off
because like as soon as I realized she never answers a straightforward question, I've been losing it.
Every time she just like deflects away over and over again, it just makes me more and more mad.
My anger keeps compounding. No one who went to Cranbrook has this accent, by the way, such a put
on. Yeah, bro, she's from fucking Nick Pallum's neighborhood. Something else I'm reading to
to charge on ICE agents that committed crimes from top to bottom need to be prosecuted.
Those are real solutions.
I just didn't know that like people did this in Michigan too, because I know people do
this in the South, right?
Like they do this in Georgia, they do this in Texas all the time, like Ted Cruz is very
famously a big time phony, they'll wear the snakeskin boots and be like, oh my God, you
know, I'm so Texas, I'm so Texas, whatever.
i just didn't know
that they would do this in michigan to know what the kranberg has accent by
the way such a put on sixty three k a year high school god damn
is not even cold switching she's just fucking lying on it's it's louisiana's
very own john kennedy
is straight up the same shit john kennedy does this to endorse my race
amyso-neil congresswoman frienda lorence and
uh... shut up shut up all my god i fucking can't stand this all
all everyone is endorsing me here
who might chime in and i'm i want to earn their votes to you know that's what
this is all i feel this way i'm sure michigan is going to feel this way too
though
because like if you got nothing and you got gretchen whitmer endorsing you and
you just keep waving that flag around
Cause like, notice how Abdul mentioned one time, the UAW endorsement, one fucking time.
Okay, that's it.
Because you got the clip off, people already know, you've already mentioned it, right?
If you keep hammering on the point, if Abdul kept saying like UAW, UAW, UAW, UAW, Bernie
Sanders, AOC, if he just kept doing that, he mentioned the teachers union's one time,
and he mentioned the UAW one time.
That's it. The reason why he doesn't have to do that is because he has a policy driven
campaign. She does not. He's got actual problems that Michiganders are facing that he can talk
about. Kamala Harris did this a lot too, not the endorsements, but like constantly tried
to bring up personal anecdotes about like how people are suffering with no adequate
solutions to how you would address or alleviate that pain.
debate. A lot of what she's saying is I've got the receipts for that. We've
heard that multiple times. She's also addressed that her opponent was
attacking her throughout the debate rather than going after Donald Trump.
President Donald Trump. We're gonna continue listening in on the spin room
right now. We are awaiting to hear from Dr Abdul al Said as well. Who is going
to enter the spin room in just a few minutes to hear his take his reaction on how this
debate went. Certainly a lot more questions and answers right now because it seems like
a lot of questions were not answered around the DTE and consumers reaction was kind of
mixed. We didn't understand if there were any possible solutions on the forefront there.
There was also a mention of Dr. El Said's tax returns not being given out.
He says they were.
She says we didn't receive the full tax return.
So a lot of questions surrounding who's saying what, what is really out there.
Talking about the abuses of power as well with Washington, D.C.
Of course a lot more coming up here on Fox Local.
going to continue this reaction room coverage right now where we're going to hear just a
few minutes from Dr. El Said, his reaction to this debate. Some of the other things that
were mentioned by him was getting healthcare done, getting healthcare through Medicare
for all and eliminating medical debt in this country. The one thing though, how is this
all going to happen. We want to know more about this and hopefully he can chime in on
what what is the response to that? How do you get medical debt?
Another school that I was at that was Grandbrook, by the way, just keeping a close eye on where
things stand right now. You're taking a live look right now. Possibly other press, other
media maybe joining in on the spin route. I will say this though, I love the energy of our young
people. That's why it was important to me. Maybe just to react to the love of viewers that we have.
I will say something here. You know what boomers fucking love? Young people getting motivated to
vote for someone. Huge deal for Abdul. Okay. And we like even when boomers are like, oh, I actually
love Hailey Stevens. There's one thing that is catnip for fucking boomers. It's a critical hit
every time. When they see young people go out and get excited to doorknock and
campaign for a candidate, that literally bricks Boomer brains. Okay, I've seen it
everywhere. That's part of the reason why, that's part of the reason why I think
Malaikiros did so well as well. When Boomers, who would normally go for the
establishment Democrat, because they watch a lot of television, when they see a
a lot of, and yeah, old black people love that shit. Absolutely. Absolutely. If you,
as a candidate, can draw a turnout from the youth, every boomer will be like, that guy,
he's got the stuff. Debbie Dingle said it. Debbie Dingle came to me and Abdul's rally.
Okay? This was months ago, before this became a national race. Okay? She went to that rally.
She was like, I've never seen this many young people this excited, this early in a primary.
Now, to say that somehow my tax return is more important to the voters in the state than
the $60 million that have been spent in this race on ads.
Most of them attacking me at this point, I think is missing the vote.
So happy to release everything.
We released all of our personal financial.
I'm not hiding anything.
The question is, what's the Congresswoman hiding about the people who are actively funding
her campaign?
We're getting outspent in this race 12 to 1.
I don't think people really quite appreciate what that means.
12 to 1, all money funded through super PACs,
which is exactly what the ending of Citizens United
is supposed to do.
Now, when you can say you really want to get money out
of politics or you want to end Citizens United,
but then you are the principal benefactor of Citizens United,
that to me seems just to be a little bit more
of the hypocrisy that we've seen.
They're taking large money from family members,
large amounts of money from members.
I'll tell you this, my father-in-law
does not want to send your tax dollars to the Israeli military
to do genocide, I'll tell you that much.
And also, again, 12 to 1, 12 to 1,
like the difference matters here.
And most of our, any outside funding has come from, right?
Working Families Party, UAW, American Federation of Teachers,
National Nurses United.
I've never taken a dollar from a corporation.
She's hiding all the corporate dollars she's taken.
Oh, lying about it, frankly, but you all saw.
DTE, $47,500 in this race.
And frankly said, no, I haven't taken it.
I mean, if you can lie about that straight up
and part of a studio audience, and national television viewers,
what else are you lying about?
And so I'd love to have a conversation about transparency.
Love to have a conversation about funding campaigns.
Love to have a conversation about why
she's taking money from all of the worst corporate actors.
So Chevron, Exxon, DTE, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Big Farm,
a Big Tech, APEC.
Who else?
And then why did you and your mom have to go to Portugal?
That's the important question.
We'll talk about family members.
Why do you take your mom to Portugal?
Did she have to get spun by the same corporations
trying to spin you on policy so that on the way home,
the mom and mom could spend you but i don't understand i like is this how it's
supposed to be done is this how
but when you go to dc is that is that how they teach you're supposed to operate
i'm not trying to operate that way
okay you were vicious but off the base page god damn how corrupting
the corporate money has become when they're flying you out to portugal to
talk to you about big formal policy
or big tech policy
you when you come back you're not doing the goods for michiganers you're doing
the goods for those companies
how do you plan on voting on the state capitol convention question in november
the state capitol convention in november i have to be honest with you like
as a it as interesting i think you're the first journalist asked me
uh... i'm gonna say no at this point i got a vote against it
uh... but you know i i do think that were were due up for some updates
particularly the federal up
right i mean so many of the problems in our governance
at the federal level right now are uh... we need to be rethinking whether it's
the electoral college whether
uh... it's in a rules like the filibuster whether it's
uh... the
What's wrong with Portugal?
Are we not good enough for international corruption?
Is that what you're saying, doctor?
Life terms.
In the Supreme Court, I think a lot of these questions
need to be rethought.
Do you want to respond to the accusation
that you're promoting junk health care cures and your podcast
I'm reading about now?
Yeah, well, no.
And I don't know specifically what's being alleged here.
But we were very, very specific, not in any of our reads
to say to make health cures.
it's interesting to me how much of this debate the word podcast came up
which is wild to me because i don't think podcasts have anything to do with the
ability to afford to gas
or your groceries
i don't think podcasts have anything to do with whether or not your kid goes to
good school i don't understand it
i don't know if i'll be able to do it
what the fuck is so american dog his name is abdul rahman
his name is abdul rahman
muhammad el sayed okay
you know why uh...
uh... the congresswoman is so angry about that but they're not the reason you
He is America. He is literally the ultimate American. The problem is, he happens to be Muslim, okay?
Well, I mean, I file with my wife, so if you count all of our joint assets, maybe. The congresswoman I know files alone, and so you're not comparing apples to apples at that point.
I know it's a convenient slogan, and APAC wants to pay to put it on TV, but we're not comparing apples to apples.
The question also has less to do with my personal finances and a lot more to do with the personal
finances of the CEOs whose corporations she take money from.
I'd like to know how many billionaires got made their billions off of votes that she's
taken.
Right.
I'd like to talk about millions of dollars.
Why $60 million in this race?
I'm happy to talk about finances, but the finances that matter for most folks in this
state are the ones that are being nickled and dimed because of the deals that too many
Corrupted politicians make as a function of the corporate money that they take DTE. I'd like to talk about how much does the DTE CEO make yes
No, probably 10 million something like that. So when you take money from DTE and
The question is are you going to regulate on DTE? What's the answer there?
Yeah, you can you can write a bill and pretend like you're doing something about the problem
But what do you actually want to do when you take forty seven thousand five hundred dollars?
And then are willing to lie about it in front of the world in the like the most watched debate in the country
Just Frank lie Frank like in your face lie. No, you have accepted money from the American priorities back
Which is a super fact you continue to say that you know corporate money
So that's the difference if I don't take over money. I've always been clear
I don't take corporate money and if you're angry because AFT and
The National Nurses United are supporting our campaign. That's like what unions do to push back on the corporations
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, we take individual contributions certainly, but I'm not coordinating with any pack
You know that's illegal when you ask.
But also, let's just talk a little bit about scale here.
How much are we being outspent, you know?
12 to 1.
No, no, no, answer the question.
It's 12 to 1.
12 to 1.
12 to 1.
So when you're talking about 12 to 1,
like let's actually talk about the amount of money
that we've seen.
And Michiganders are seeing it.
Add after add after add after add.
So if you want to say that the National Nurses United
is somehow the same thing as APAC,
I just don't think that'll take that seriously.
The Congresswoman when she was up here earlier
said she answered no to the question on DT and consumers
today because the contribution that she received in the FEC
file in these words the month before she filed for Senate,
but it was later transferred to her Senate committee,
which said the question was specifically about the Senate.
So de facto, when somebody gives you money
and then you take that money and put it into your Senate campaign,
then the answer is you have taken money into your Senate campaign.
Do you think she should answer yes?
I think the actual answer is yes.
Like the truth of the matter is this.
So she has an congressional campaign.
Somebody takes a bunch of money and puts it
in her congressional campaign.
and then she takes the congressional campaign money
and puts it into her Senate campaign,
then by definition, she's taking it.
And it's also really interesting, did she on purpose
do it the month before so that she could answer
that answer no?
At the end of the day, throughout her career,
she's taking oodles and oodles of DTE money.
Oodles and oodles.
So like, part of me says, well, yeah,
if you want a senator who's gonna stand up to DTE,
that's probably not it, right?
That's what people are asking.
The technicality of the money is the secondary thing to,
Are you bought off by the corporation?
And the answer is yes.
So when you take their money at all, at some point,
you probably have a cozy relationship with their pack.
You have a cozy relationship with their lobbyist.
And when that lobbyist says, here's the bill we really want,
that's probably the bill they get.
And guess what happens to the rest of us?
We ended up paying what, 399 to pay our DTE bill
with a credit card?
We've had our DTE rates go up faster
than in 46 other states over 20 years.
That's what that buys you.
We pretend somehow that like, oh, it's just money.
people are fully independent well why do they spend it then I mean these money is
cynical it's not dumb so they spend their money to buy off politicians so that
those politicians turn around and do their bidding and it's the reason we end
up paying more for less it's a reason we get paid less for more and it's the
reason that our politics feel so corrupted I've been super clear about
the fact that we got to beat my crotches so yes I guess keep asking the same
question. What did you make of the comments from the Congresswoman about the tone of your
campaign? Do you think it's a valid thing, though they should consider? You know, the tone that
people are hearing, most of all, is the tone that's being brought to them by UDP, APAC,
running attack ads on my character because I wrote an op-ed 15 years ago, or I ran against
the governor and said that she was taking money from Blue Cross Blue Shield. So, like,
let's talk about the tone of the campaign. I've said, I've told my supporters multiple
times not to make fun of her. I don't know what else you would want from a
candidate. I've literally said do not make fun of her. It's unkind. I've said it
multiple times but I've heard nothing. Even when the question of civility came
up, you heard it today, the question of civility came up and she used it to
attack me. So I'm just saying that like where is the in civility coming from
when you ask a super PAC that wants to take our tax dollars and send them
somewhere else to kill women and children and then in the most cynical
put $10 million, $15 million behind attack ads saying I'm somehow disrespect
women. Where's the disrespect to women? Or are we saying that the lives of some
people don't matter enough? Because the lives of the people I'm worried about are
the people who are not able to afford basic things, good schools, functional
infrastructure, healthcare, whose money is being sent somewhere else because
people like Hailey Stevens vote to do it. Why? Because they take money from the
yeah that was a huge deal that done
that's how this process really seems to be a good thing for most people are just
sick and tired of about three point three billion
israel's
all of its a
money about machine all she has to do it because a pack literally took money
will live from face
about the main democrats who who are signed against it for the corporations
who are nickel in diamond us at every turn
i don't take them money for a reason because i don't want to be bought off by
them because i want to work for people
because the congresswoman is trying to target your personal finances on this
campaign trail
just a second
or the fact that i'm a podcast right?
he keeps proving himself
literate
yeah
it's a terrible idea
i know
you guys are not paying nerds
i mean you tell me man you're your journalists right?
your journalists like just don't host the podcast because then some
enterprising politician come after you
like uh... i mean it'd be an awful thing if you actually spent time i don't know
educating people about public health like our podcast did that's a terrible
terrible thing i'm sure
But what would you say is the highest valued asset
in your possession right now?
I don't know.
I don't sit here and think about it.
And I'll just tell you that people
are going to pay attention to properties that literally
my wife's family inherited and then put in their and all
of their kids' names and then sold.
And people out here being like, oh, well.
And I wonder why they're so focused on foreign properties
for somebody with a name like mine.
Do you think it might fit within a well-worn trope?
I don't know, I'll let you guys make that consideration.
That's plus, why are people so angry?
You said that at the debate when they bloated,
it had nothing to do with your supporters.
There are a lot of your supporters that were angry.
No, listen, we told our supporters straight up,
we don't boot anyone.
And as soon as it happened, I called the congressman.
I told her that was unkind.
And our people were under very, very, very strict directions.
We are not gonna be unkind to anybody
because this is a campaign about hope in the future.
I think what you saw is a deep well of frustration
at a congressperson who's willing to get up
who's not willing to answer your basic questions,
who doesn't actually want to talk about the things
that people want to talk about.
And I think that was, that's what you saw.
Now look, I don't think that's kind.
I don't think that's how we should do politics.
I have told my supporters, do not,
do not make fun of the Congresswoman,
because that's not helpful.
We keep it on issues, we talk about issues.
Now, I'm just saying, I told you at the front of this debate
that my opponent was going to talk about me
and talk about her, and I was going to talk about the people.
the people. And at every turn, every single question
was an opportunity for her to take a dig at me, or an opportunity for her to take a dig at the
fact that I hosted a podcast. It was her opportunity to take a dig because I like write books.
I didn't know that that was a problem, right? But apparently we don't want a senator who
communicates with the public and we don't want a senator who writes books about the things that
they actually want to get done. Like that's somehow an attack. I just think that at some point,
like you're seeing a campaign flail in real time. And we built this campaign from the ground up.
I've been to 475 public events the kind where we answer questions Sam you've been to a lot of them
You know that when the hands go up. I don't I don't pick I'm just like hey whoever it is
Got questions. I got answers because I'm not afraid of the voters
I tried to be transparent about what I run on what I believe in when the questions were asked today
I answered policy solutions not attacking my opponent
But you know at the end of the day like this has just been the most cynical campaign
When you ask 60 million dollars coming in from all the folks who want to corrupt our politics to come in here and
Buy a US Senate seat and then have the audacity to say that somehow you're the most electable
I'm so sorry like electability doesn't need a 60 million dollar crutch
But you need 60 million dollars to get out the primary yourself. I don't want everybody here to ask
Do you think that 60 million dollars materializes in the general election because here's the thing who's paying for it?
Well, we don't know number one, but big pharma big tech
DTE Blue Cross guess what who else are they funding Mike Rogers when you run a millionaire
I don't expect this to happen. $16 million come in here in a primary if they can eat get out that guess what all that money
That was the crutches gone in the general now. We're supposed to talk about electability
I always
Comdirected for Haley by the way by the people for the people
There's no good. They're so far. They have nothing be a part of a politics. They believe him now
You know, I didn't know holding big rallies was a problem
But I have to say it was refreshing that they didn't bring you up in the debate
Yes, because bringing me up in the debate is poison for even apex very own attack dog Haley Stevens
They already tried tested that and it fucking failed. I
I turn into a litmus test for Israel. That's why Haley Stevens is not doing it
A pack will try to like, you know slam some attack ads in the mailers, but that's the whole reason
happy to have no outside spending at all on my behalf if it meant that $60 million was
spent against us. What would this race be? It's not so many fucking times going to fail
over and over again. Thank you ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. That's why Mallory McMorrow
stepped on that landmine and that's why she's not, you know, she's no longer in contest,
right? So that's part of the reason why Haley is not doing that.
think who do you think is going to win? And also who won tonight's democratic debate?
You have a poll question for you right now so that we can hear your thoughts and see
what you think. Was it Carlos Roman, Haley Stevens, or was it Jack Barabalski that won
tonight's debate? Also here to break down who he thinks might have won the debate is
Dr. Peter Trumbore from Oakland University,
professor and chair of the Department of Political Science,
Dr. Trumbore, good to have you join us in the studio today.
Thanks for having me.
And so you watched this debate here on Fox2.
Who won?
Biggest question, everyone's wondering.
Yeah, so that's actually a question I don't like
because to me, it's not about winning and losing
in a sort of a horse race sense.
It's about how well did the candidates do
in getting their message across?
how well did they do in drawing a contrast not just between themselves
between themselves
and they're likely opponent in november in the general election
and i think on that score i think the two candidates did a good job
both of them did a good job in terms of drawing contrast okay uh... between them
uh... okay answer the question what do you have a student that a better job
of pointing out
why she thinks she would be the better candidate
to take on my car is in november
Oh, whoa, shit.
Which is frankly an issue that El Sayed really didn't get to into the last few seconds of
the debate itself, right?
And so I think it was a good night for both candidates.
I think the statistic you had earlier about this hasn't really changed a lot of people's
positions on who they plan to support.
I tend to look past the primary to think about who was likely to be a stronger general election
candidate come November.
And I think the viewers may have gotten a pretty good sense of who they think that might
be.
Now, I do want to get into some of our viewer questions.
Who do you think it is?
Just say, hey, Steven's big dog.
Post it on our tag board, hashtagged on X.
And Dr. Trumbauer, I want you to help me with some of the reaction here.
I'm going to read some of this right now on our live coverage right here.
One person named Jake writes, it's fairly obvious.
Dr. Abdul, we'll defeat the next week's Michigan Democratic Senate primary.
The question now is by how much now, given this question by a viewer, is there a defining
moment that may have stuck with viewers with Dr. El Said?
So I think that that that commenter is probably being wildly optimistic.
However, I think one of the key points that the outside was trying to hammer home was
this idea that Stevens is in the pocket of corporate interests and is in the pocket of
these outside donors who have flooded the race with money.
And it is true that an unprecedented amount of money has been spent on this primary so
far.
And this seems to be the key point of contrast that he's drawing with Congresswoman Stevens
is that she's taken all this outside money.
And that means that she's not going to stand up for Michiganders.
And the counter is, I haven't taken any, at least not from corporate interests, and therefore,
you know, I'll be working for the people of Michigan.
The problem with that narrative is that she's got four terms in the House of Representatives
that you can point to and say, here are the concrete things that I have in fact delivered.
So I'm not sure that commenter is, say, a neutral party.
That sounds like the counter thing.
I know that you're a neutral party.
already decided that their votes going to go for LSIA would would toss into a
public message board. I do have a lot more questions coming in from our
viewers but before we get to some of the rest of them, is there a moment?
That's my professor with the fuck. Why is your professor a Haley Stevens dick writer?
I don't think so and that's a good thing right because typically if there is some
slip or some pithy remark, it tends to be superficial and it tends to be sort of a
rage bait, click bait, meme bait kind of moment. And I was frankly happy to see
that both candidates seemed pretty sober and serious about the message they were
trying to deliver. And to me that's a good thing, right? I don't turn on debates
for the theatrics, as theatrical an environment as it can be and so you saw
policy positions from Haley Stevens there who kept crying about how Abdul is
a podcaster really no also this is what those were policy professoring done a
lot of political science coverage especially here even at Fox to come on
big moment where you said these candidates just keep going at it but they
They don't have results.
They don't have the receipts.
I know we've heard Congresswoman Haley Stephen saying,
I've got the receipts.
We heard a doctor outside saying,
we're going to change things
and we're going to get rid of corruption.
How?
How are you doing this?
We want to see the how.
Yeah, and I think that that's an important question.
I do think that the Congresswoman has a better chance
to make the case that she has in fact delivered.
She has a record that she can point to.
She has a record of bills that she sponsored,
that she's voted for, or bills that she's passed, that she can say, look, this is what you've hired
me to do as your representative, and this is what I've done. And, you know, and El Sayed does not
have a record like that. Now, that's not to say that he was not effective in his roles with Wayne
County in the city of Detroit, but that's a very different kind of arena in which, you know, the
The stakes are as important as they are, they're different.
And so I think, especially when you look at some of the things that El Sayed was talking
about, Medicare for All, retiring the nation's medical debt, abolishing ICE, the key question
whether you think those are great ideas or not, the key question is how are you going
to do it?
Oh my God!
How are you going to do it?
Oh my God, this guy!
A Senate in which in the debate, El Sayed advocated getting rid of the filibuster, which is frankly
the only tool that the minority in the chamber has to derail the policy plans of the majority.
Right?
And so it's great to get rid of the filibuster if you are in the majority, but don't have
enough votes to overcome it.
It's another thing to be the minority party hoping to be the majority and advocating for
that position.
It's a little bit ironic that Donald Trump has been calling for the elimination of the
filibuster as well.
So to hear El Sayed talk about it tonight, because we're going to win the fucking majority
of the Trump talking about getting rid of the filibuster yesterday and today as some
irony to it.
That said, getting rid of the filibuster has long been a dream of political figures on
left and right because they recognize that they can get more done if they have a very
slim majority than if they have to get 60 votes.
But 60 votes requires that policies be bipartisan if they're going to get through the Senate.
And I think that's a good thing for our democracy.
Dr. Trumbauer, I also want to ask you,
because there were two pivotal moments that kept coming up.
One of them was Congresswoman Hailey Stevens
taking money from DTE.
That was one thing that kept coming up about-
He's like, yeah, we really fucked up on that one.
I mean, not we.
I mean, Hailey Stevens, whose campaign I'm not a part of.
Even when our very own Rupraj asked her about the money,
it just seemed like the answer wasn't given effectively.
It wasn't a guess or no response right away.
With that being said, we also had Dr. El Said,
who wasn't answering really the tax returns
and whether or not, he said he delivered them,
but did we really see them?
And then he mentions that his wife
was also on the tax returns.
And that's why Congressman Stevens
is a non-millionaire as opposed to him.
Now, with that being said and the two candidates,
for someone who is on the fence about who to vote for
is one situation, maybe perhaps worse than the other
when it comes to a voter who's undecided.
And that's an interesting question.
So let's start with El Sayed.
What he has said is that he's done
all of the required financial disclosures.
That's not the same as releasing your tax returns.
We haven't seen him, right?
That's not the same as releasing tax returns,
which goes into much more granular detail
about the sources of your income and all that sort of stuff
than a campaign financial.
Bro, this guy, this guy is real.
This guy's a doctor of spin. He's a spin doctor.
I don't think he has a doctorate in political science.
I think he's a doctorate in spinning for a fucking Haley Stevens.
What the fuck?
Bro, who the fuck is this guy?
Chatter. Your professor sucks.
And unfortunately in our system,
The Supreme Court has decided that money equals speech.
And so the fact that both candidates talked about the necessity of campaign finance reform,
to my mind is a good thing.
You know, the fact that the students talked about putting forward legislation to essentially
ban members of Congress from the administration from insider trading, is long overdue, right?
And you know, the unsupertacted thing, you know, is that the establishment loves doing
everything that they can do to shut out of dual. This is instantly misleading.
A borderline lying about outside in Stevens. You know, you would have to take a deep dive
into what her actual legislative record is. So he gets away with this 100% establishment
of is this Haley Campes that sort of really pointed out and say, okay, here is exactly
where we see that quid pro quo, you know, rear its ugly head.
So he implies it's there because she takes outside money, but it's, there's, where is
the moment where he says, and here's the piece of legislation that proves that she is sort
of a dishonest bad actor.
Now, Dr. Trombone, thank you so much for joining us.
We're going to continue this.
Dr. Rusty Trombone, dude, get the fuck out of here.
Dr. S. Him glazing her so much the poll results on screen is hilarious. I know
God damn dude the QR code take that poll question join us on Twitter or X
And let us know your thoughts. Is there a question you want answered because coming up
We're gonna take a quick break, but we're gonna hear from our very own
like, how do you try to make this argument that Haley Stevens is an honest broker when
she got 60 million reasons not to be, when she just straight up lied on the debate stage,
which is supposed to be a big fucking no-no about her donations? Yeah, the stuff that
they're yelling about, that is the fact that, um, obelisades father-in-law has some properties
that he has in the name of his wife. And they sold it recently. Okay. So that's what they're
claiming. Like Abdul's getting funded by, you know, foreigners or some shit. It's racism
for the record. It is transparently racist. There's only one candidate as being funded
by foreigners in this race is Haley Stevens. Okay, foreign interests rather, Israel's
interest. The idea that Abdul is always like a fucking
multi-millionaire, he's got 1.7 in net worth, total net worth when him and his wife are
both doctors. It's also totally ridiculous. How drunk do you think Nira Tandon is right
now? Oh yeah, I was calling out Smira earlier too.
Yeah, Dave Weigel also made a pretty salient point, since the campaign is grabbing any piece
of bad news in OPPO that floats into view and making that their daily focus is usually
in trouble.
Stevens had a theme and has had a theme.
She's the pragmatic Democrat bringing jobs in Michigan.
We'll work with anybody who has passed bills,
but the Stevens cheering section seems to be grabbing
for anything that could portray outside
as a sexist pig and throwing it.
Yeah, even the ogre thing, desperate,
podcast endorsements, like,
oh, your podcast is funded by fake cures, also bullshit.
Also, bullshit, total bullshit.
Yeah, Politico immediately wrote an article saying, L-Site comes under fire for Ogre and
a pike leak comment.
The people cited in the article are Shannon Watts, Fred Guttenberg, and Neera Tandon,
all three that are tangentially related to the Haley Stevens campaign, if not directly
have endorsed Haley Stevens.
basically acting as a de facto surrogate for Haley Stevens. This is journalistic malpractice.
I'm assuming Adam wrote this article, which is kind of messed up. But you know, oh, it's not
Adam. Never mind. It was Liz Crampton who wrote the article. Adam Ray did not write this article.
He's one, he's on the beat. He's on the Abdul, uh, Michigan beat.
That's why I assumed he wrote it. But again, this is, this is bullshit.
I saw him watching this debate like a white man watches a favorite football team play,
like he's the one calling all plays. Good, good, no notes, man, just get him on the field.
I'm sorry, excuse me for fucking being excited
Yeah, in the political story I'm reaction the campaign didn't respond that's odd
But we'll keep this exchange up for transparency if he thinks Federman is an ogre
Maybe you should take that up with this campaign because it's also worked to elect Federman
Yeah, calling your female opponent in ogre. You want to put on a pike is not beating the
rap that this racism serious sexism says smear attendant. I called her out on this to I said
smear attendant lying again. Call Abdul called John Fetterman ogre. She knows this, but she
shamelessly, she says shame see lying anyway. What do you expect from the team that brought
us the original Obama as a Muslim lies during the Clinton Obama primary? Yeah, remember,
Never forget, near-attending is alleged to have been the person who sent the photo of
Obama wearing a turban to the judge report initially, because the Obama is a Muslim stuff,
didn't start with Donald Trump.
A lot of people think birtherism came from Donald Trump.
That's not true.
The birtherism did not come initially from Donald Trump.
he just kept dunking on it over and over again. Rup Raj is on my goat, my goat,
Raj.
Fogar on a pipe comment that apparently Dr.
Alsayed made on a Zoom call with campaign folks,
in which he was talking about John Fetterman, not Haley Stevens.
He made that distinction,
but it called into question the tenor and the mood of a campaign and how one
should be moving forward and challenging Dr.
Alsayed to ask the question, perhaps it was alluded to in those ads,
is there a better way forward than with months linking?
And so the question and the answer,
we're right there in front of everyone to say,
to hear and to see.
And I think it's really important that people are able to,
not only listen to the answers, but not in sound bites,
but rather to watch their faces.
I have a feeling that most people make their decisions,
not just on answers, that you could read somewhere,
but based on how they reacted
in the tenor of this particular debate.
As far as sub...
Miller, you have prominent Democratic opinion makers, folks, people who are praising Mao
Hannity, dressing as Mao.
Stephen Miller.
They have 35 DSA candidates running this midterm.
And all the recent primaries that have been contested in the Democratic Party have been
won by socialists and communists.
And your point, Minus Thetterman, not a single leader in the Democrat Party has been willing
to condemn the Democrat socialists of America, again, who represent an ideology.
To give, first of all, that's not true. There's hella people who are doing that, okay? But
then again, to give credit to like maybe Elisa Slotkin, who has in the past done that, like
at least some of the more serious Democrats understand that this is just, this is a bullshit
smear campaign that they should not engage in, with the exception of like Josh Gottheimer
stuff like that. Never, never seat on oppositional framing. It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat
who fucking hates my guts. Do not do that. Okay. Do not fucking do that. Even if you agree with them,
keep that shit to your fucking damn self. If you want to keep your seat, if you want to keep being
a Democrat, you know, I'm an outsider. Oh, you can say that all day. It doesn't fucking matter.
First of all, I voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton. I voted for Joe Biden. I don't give a shit. Okay.
Having said that, having said that, okay?
The idea that you would listen to this bald Nazi fuck, this bald Nazi fuck, and go, he's
cooking on this one.
I never agree with him, but he's cooking on this one.
You're a piece of shit, okay?
And in the eyes of the voters, you are far less a Democrat than even someone like myself
is.
Okay, you can run around and say, oh, something's not a real Democrat all day every day, doesn't
matter.
Doesn't matter.
When you agree with a Nazi like Stephen Miller, you're de facto a Nazi.
Okay?
That's it.
But in the last century, killed tens of millions of people.
You have democratic, prominent, democratic opinion makers, spokespeople who are praising
now.
These are people trusting is now.
You don't have that suit at home.
Very popular in the Democratic Party.
Fuck you.
Suck my dick, you bald Nazi freak.
look at this testicular looking motherfucker over here. Oh my lord. Oh my lord. I wish
I wish we didn't have to also fucking fight people who are supposed to be fight people
who are also supposed to be ostensibly on our side, you know, but
they're not.
Yeah.
literally evolved not see by the way
nothing could have prepared me for what he's actually trying to say what is he saying what is Trump saying now you watch companies move production from America down to Mexico
Oh, I love the way there's a very nice president of Mexico.
You know that very nice and she speaks beautifully and she calls it may hall for you.
May hall.
This is so stupid, bro.
this guy is the fucking president, dude. It's so funny that his followers are like, Oh my
God, this fucking Twitch streamer wore a mouse suit. The fuck are you talking about? This
is the goddamn president, man. Democrats are so lost in the goddamn sauce, dude. Democrats
who also lean into the exact same shit that Fox News is doing to be like, Oh, the socialist
men is the socialist men is talk about dropping the fucking ball like this guy is our president
currently and he's ruining everything and you're over here being like you know the real
problem is, democratic socialism. Miller is okay with killing his fellow citizens of this
hypocrite. Why don't you bring up Mao? Are you for fucking real? Yeah.
To be honest, Kamala did call Trump a communist. It didn't work though. Yeah, I know. I don't
want to fucking.
From the debate, Moscow has skipped. Yeah.
It's very simple.
I'm here.
Where is he at?
Where is our congressman?
I went on Fox News last week thinking I might find him there because he seems more comfortable
on Fox News than he is in the 25th district.
I'm running against a Democrat, the first Democrat to join the Doge Caucus that has taken
a gutting knife to the federal workforce, void and collective bargaining agreements.
I mentioned his support as the only Democrat in our state delegation to vote for the Lake
and Riliac, someone who is openly campaigning as a twice appointed Ron DeSantis Democrat.
What does that mean?
So I'm here and I'm going to continue to be here because I care about serving this community.
I don't take a dime of corporate PAC money.
I'm running a 100% grassroots funded campaign over 11,000 unique donors strong and we're
running it with an organizing culture that is going to endure beyond just one election
cycle because it's not just about showing up during election year.
It's about doing the deep organizing work that is going to turn our state around and
to take it back from the Republican Party.
Good, good cooking. I just wish that Moscow, it's actually entertained the fucking debate.
I hate that. I hate that he ran away from that. Anyway, Matt Iglesias won on Plot Save America
to encourage Democrats to moderate more. The listeners aren't buying it. These are the
top comments. Wow. It just took two different senses to say there's nothing that he and
Jeffries could be doing or Chuck Schumer inspiring. They can stop attacking student protesters.
They can stop trying to block any people running against incumbents. It's a very long list of
what they could be doing. That is just not, that's not just voting in the Senate moderating
standing for basically no movement is exactly how the Democratic party got in this mess.
We want to see strong voices take a stand and fight for things previously thought impossible.
Look at the labor union fight or civil rights. They fought for the extremes of one concessions.
moderating simply means you slow the other party's concessions if Dems want
to keep pushing moderate censures that voters don't want they will never win
again current centrists are bought and sold they don't care about anyone but
their donors and themselves we need progressives either you want policies
that make life better for everyone or a group of corrupt races anti-LGBTQ plus
oligarchy trash that throw black and brown people in a concentration camps to
kill innocent people in the streets you either have a moral compass or you don't
choose wisely. Is this episode title supposed to be satire? Center left, you mean what you used
to be called Republican because no thanks. Yeah, Madaglacias will look at these comments and
sincerely say this is the problem with the Democratic Party, the bases become too woke.
Not realizing that like, you know, if the Democrats leaned into that base and the
real organic enthusiasm and maybe even accomplish some of the fucking agenda items for the base,
we would probably be able to, you know, defeat Republicans permanently. Okay. I say we in that
regard, even though, you know, I don't always consider myself to be a Democrat, even though I've
never voted for a Republican and I never will. The reason why I say we in that situation is because
I do, unlike Matiglasius, recognize the dangers of Trumpism, recognize the dangers of reactionary
MAGA policies, okay? I want to make sure that we de facto run a one-party state where nobody
ever wants to vote for a Republican ever again. That's my goal. I know some people will say,
well, wait a minute, what is that? That's what are you, Marxist Leninist? And my goal is to make
sure nobody ever, ever even entertains voting for a Republican ever again, okay? It's great to
have some fucking backbone. I don't understand why Centres constantly are trying to moderate
to this center. Oh boy, Fox News gonna like that one. Okay, whatever. Fuckin' posted.
Posted W. Numbers on the board. Holy Toledo is on. Yeah, I saw it. I saw. We were watching
it live. Yeah, Nate Silver, it's kind of striking how, apart from Iran, most of the Trump-related
stories this summer have been boring and dumb. Reflection pool, White House correspondent
are kind of funny. FIFA, maybe we're moving on from him being the central figure in American
politics. This isn't true. You're just rich. Cooked. ISIS killed some people indeed, but
there's been more focus both from the mainstream media and even more specifically the partisan
leading media on these low stakes. Frankly, kind of stupid stories instead, maybe because
they click better, because it feels lame duckish, not Trump is an existential threat.
I don't know why these guys have no shame, I guess in order to like, you know, in order
to get to the positions of power within the ranks of the centrist commentary, you have
to be a shameless guy who's wrong all the time. But I will say it is rather odd how
much these guys openly reveal their disdain for the working class, how much they openly
reveal how out of touch they are with regular frequency when their job kind of relies on
them being in touch, right? Like, that's what they're positioning themselves as. Guy who
looks at the polls and understands what the, what the needs of the masses are. And it's
very strange. It is very strange how actively and openly they fucking reveal how out of
touch they are. Yeah, Michigan
early voting totals day two and
Arbor Dearborn is is out voting
Detroit.
We need more. Here's part of the
reason for why that's the case. I mean, this doesn't mean anything yet. Okay, but part
of the reason why I speculate that's the case is because what do I always say? Negative
ads, attack ads, do not draw turnout for your candidate. Negative attack ads can at best
If it's more effective, okay, if it's at its most effective, negative attack ads will actually
depress voter turnout for the opposition.
Right?
That's it, but it doesn't actually boost turnout.
Dearborn is out voting Detroit and my source tell me Dearborn is voting overwhelmingly
for Hailees, he was robbed also because of a little bit of stick it to him, the Islamic
way, insha Allah.
A-Pak deployed an annoying ass attack ad in the middle of the debate.
Yeah, of course.
But that was also very cool that he did the Babe Ruth thing where he called it out ahead
of time.
That actually plays well for the watchers at home.
left wing candidates are a popular sweet sweet spot with cutting aid to Israel always good to be the spend money here not their Canada especially when it's being spent there to blow up hospitals conversation changes when the ask is blocking arm sales you're not saving money that can be spent here on schools and bridges etc.
You're making a moral case for that country to not be able to buy weapons from US manufacturers.
Yeah.
Yeah, we already do that. Do we supply weapons to North Korea? Do we supply weapons to Iran?
Not anymore. We don't. We used to.
Look at how the audience reacted to our answer on APAC.
Anyway, that's all I got for today, 7 hours and 30 minutes, folks.
I'm tired, but I'll be back tomorrow.
As always, you already know what's up.
That was a banger, I believe.
Is there a Francesca Hong debate tomorrow as well?
Is there a Francesca Hong debate tomorrow?
Did I get that right?
Where my cheese heads at?
We're getting the pediatric ICU tonight gang outside cooked right? Yes, you cooked. It was incredible
Excellent. Excellent. He was on fire then it was awesome. Not that debates really matter,
But if it did, if it did, it was a blowout.
There are a lot of loyalists on the media side that will do everything in their power
to disparage Abdul all the way until the very last second, but I'm feeling very confident.
very confident about our boys chances on be honest. Yes, the bet tomorrow. Okay, we'll
do the but for Francesca Hong tomorrow. They'll probably try to deploy the Hassan Piker
narrative. I suspect and Michael from Pennsylvania. Ironically enough, that's probably going to
be a common actor in this race. But that'll be all from me for tonight folks. I'm tired.
Love you all. I will see you tomorrow. Peace.
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The sun is streaming, the sun is streaming
Kicked out in the DNC, at a rail when March the gold
Commending the prompter candle to shut down people's throats
CBS Israeli News, a coup, a regime false
A full blown fascist takeover and still the duty calls
Total radicalization coming out to sea
A system where he'll always fail, it's up to you and me
All these daily streets, weather shore or weather law
Have held millions of people, keep it moving right along
Cause there he is again, the sun is streaming, The sun is streaming, there he is again,
The sun is streaming, the sun is streaming.
But hey, what can you say?
That's B.B.S. for you
But he'll play games real soon
Just you wait
Say hey, why can't you say hey?
That's B.B.S. for you
But he'll move on real soon
Just you wait
Ba da da, ba da da, ba da da da da da da da da
Hey, why can't you say hey?
That's B.B.S. for you
I'll pull your lungs real soon, just you wait
Sha-da-da, sha-da-da, sha-da-da-da-da-da-da
What can you say? Hey, that's PBS for you
I held to Jeth-Ice real soon, just you wait
Now, hey, what can you say? Hey, that's PBS for you
Brought up by viewers like you, just you wait, just you wait