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08-05-2026 · 6h 09m

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[00:06:30] This is the Wilcane Show Democrats have a new kingmaker.
[00:06:56] He's the visionary of the left.
[00:06:58] He's the visionary of Democratic Socialists, and it's his party, Piper's party, and that
[00:07:04] party has an invite list, and he has a vision, not just as who should be elected to office,
[00:07:10] but as to the future of the Democratic Socialist of America.
[00:07:13] When asked, a very interesting question about what he would add to the platform.
[00:07:17] Here's what he said about the future of the DSA.
[00:07:20] Arrest and prosecute, and bring about corruption charges for every prominent member of this
[00:07:24] administration that is engaged in corruption.
[00:07:27] that prosecuted and arrested ICE agents that have also done the crimes as well on the job.
[00:07:30] Bring out the secret police.
[00:07:40] What's going on, everybody? I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening, fantastic afternoon,
[00:07:45] fantastic afternoon, no matter where you are in the world. I'm Sam Pyger in the South of
[00:07:48] Nebraska. It's coming to you live from sunny California, Los Angeles folks. We're live and
[00:07:53] alive. And I hope all the boys, girls and MBS are having a fantastic one because today's a beautiful
[00:07:56] day today is a wonderful day today is I don't even know what day it is. I guess it's Wednesday.
[00:08:05] Today is Wednesday. That's right. We're live. We're alive. It's Wednesday, August 5th. It's
[00:08:14] one day after election day. You already know what's up. You already know what it is. You already
[00:08:18] know what's going on. I'm a son piker and I had a very long night and a very long morning and
[00:08:24] I am running on the edge of my rope if that's the right term to use here but
[00:08:32] oh nonetheless we're still doing it we're still doing the damn thing and I'm
[00:08:35] gonna continue doing the damn thing ladies and gentlemen
[00:08:43] ladies and gentlemen take some time for yourself okay take some time for your
[00:08:50] take some time for yourself and just take a deep breath take a
[00:08:57] breather and just feel allow yourself to feel for a brief moment okay allow
[00:09:05] yourself to feel for a brief moment because we won but our job is not done
[00:09:14] of course as always we won and we're gonna be talking about all of that and
[00:09:19] more, but this is the part of the broadcast at the end of my rope running on fumes. Okay,
[00:09:23] good to know. Last time was an emotional roller coaster for real. Yeah, for sure. Too close
[00:09:30] for comfort. I didn't like that. It was a real barn burner. I don't like those. I was at the
[00:09:35] edge of my seat. In any case, there's a lot going on in the world and we're going to get into that.
[00:09:42] but before I get into that, I want to start off with personal news.
[00:09:51] Personal news about my life, about the world of the Sun House and I'm in Piker
[00:09:56] as a shut-ass loser. Last night, we broke down the equipment. I left the party.
[00:10:04] We broke down the equipment and I was just watching Steve Pernacchi until
[00:10:09] So he finally calculated the results and saw that there was no way that Haley Stevens
[00:10:18] could potentially eke out a victory.
[00:10:24] And I tweeted about it immediately and then I tried to go to sleep but I couldn't.
[00:10:28] I couldn't sleep because I was very excited.
[00:10:34] Too excited to be able to go to sleep.
[00:10:37] Okay, he didn't want to go home either Steve was like please guys we're so close I know
[00:10:46] he was right he was right the union jib through was wrong they didn't understand the mind
[00:10:56] of Steve Karnacky.
[00:11:04] The race being disclosed to show so your involvement the volunteer efforts every phone bank and
[00:11:08] every donation changed the course of this race and the course of US politics and history
[00:11:12] writ large I agree.
[00:11:16] I find it very strange that people don't recognize that I find that very strange in
[00:11:23] in any case, in any case, um, hello, hello, what do you want, what do you want, um, okay,
[00:11:43] with an open primary, will we know how many Republican voted for Haley Stevens potentially?
[00:12:05] We're going to get into all the analysis.
[00:12:06] We're going to get into all the analysis.
[00:12:07] How'd you sleep, big dog?
[00:12:09] Sleep?
[00:12:10] Sleep?
[00:12:11] I don't know what that is, but yeah, I'll tell you this much.
[00:12:15] The establishment is uniting behind Abdul, so of course I'm not going to talk shit about
[00:12:19] any of them, including, uh, including Mallory McMurray, Hailey Stevens, or any number of
[00:12:26] different people, because at this point there's only one goal, and that is defeat Mike Rogers.
[00:12:33] Establish a Democratic majority for the Senate.
[00:12:35] I'm going to give a fuck what the crusty, you know, third worldest position is on the
[00:12:40] matter. Um, you know, it's, it's time to lock in. If they're
[00:12:45] consolidating support behind our boy, we got a fucking beach
[00:12:49] hill. That's it. We have to be tactical. We have to be smart.
[00:12:54] We have to be disciplined. I'm not gonna sit there and you
[00:12:58] know, uh, rip people unless there is, you know, these
[00:13:02] temporary alliances potentially, but ultimately our goal is
[00:13:06] always to defeat fascism. And if the Democrats are actually invested in defeating fascism
[00:13:13] and some meaningful capacity for the duration, then great for the consulting class, for the
[00:13:20] consulting class, well, they could be sent out to the glue factory. That's a different
[00:13:25] story. But in any case, um, God, I'm so tired. Okay. Um, we got a lot going on. We got the
[00:13:36] funny Republican race as well. We'll be talking about that. That was really funny. A guy who
[00:13:40] suspected his race won over the guy who had a Muslim sounding name.
[00:13:56] And we'll get into all of that and more. Let's do it. Let's blast off. Let's fucking blast off.
[00:14:02] Let's get it twisted. Let's get it twisted, ladies and gentlemen. I'm just going right into it. Um, I had an abysmal experience
[00:14:11] At the airport it is on fucking believable how bad
[00:14:16] The Detroit Airport was it is actually alarming
[00:14:21] It's actually alarming how bad it is
[00:14:24] Oh, we get into the airport. We get into the airport and the lines are out of control
[00:14:35] completely out of control and there is like
[00:14:44] hold on let me blast off real quick la
[00:14:47] Best election take machine. Maximilar B-slate victory. Straight close public. I mean, number one, what's next?
[00:14:57] If any of you have ever had the misfortune of being at the Detroit airport on a Monday morning, oh my god, I forgot the fucking. That's crazy.
[00:15:14] I didn't even put the edit. I have to edit my blast off because I forgot to write twitch.tv slash Hassanabi in that wild. I'm all over the fucking place. Okay.
[00:15:28] Um, as I was saying.
[00:15:32] Hold on. Thanks for the Normandabere in YouTube. It was nice to hear someone intellectual.
[00:15:44] Yeah. Maybe Mondays are Hassanabi or clearly crucial for this victory. What? Oh, so I don't
[00:15:58] I don't know if you guys have ever been at Detroit airport in the morning when it's like the most congested DTW is always been a nightmare. Thanks for coming to Michigan. Michigan loves you and I love Michigan.
[00:16:09] Okay.
[00:16:10] I'll be honest.
[00:16:29] I'll be honest with you.
[00:16:39] I'm more worried about those chances if Republicans were actually coming out in large numbers to vote for Haley Stevens.
[00:16:50] Because if Haley Stevens's base was reliable, if Haley Stevens's base was solid, and we're going to obviously parse through those numbers,
[00:17:02] then it's over. It's over for my graduates by like an insane margin.
[00:17:09] So I hope it's not Republicans taking advantage of open primaries. I don't know if they would.
[00:17:15] I don't know how, how, like, I don't know what the president looks like for gamifying like that.
[00:17:23] It's happened in the past, but I don't know what the margins would look like in that situation.
[00:17:29] I assume that, I assume that is still mostly Haley Stevens voters, like the electability
[00:17:36] voter stuff like that. But we'll get into all of that and more obviously I'm blasting off ladies
[00:17:40] and gentlemen boys girls and embies. We're freaking blasting off.
[00:17:48] Let the people know. Let the people know that we're live. We're alive and there's so much to
[00:17:52] talk about for maximum abuse to the slate victory that took place last night and so much more.
[00:17:59] I'm going to get into all of that and more of course as always.
[00:18:02] This shirt color looks great on you, King. Thank you.
[00:18:06] Well, yeah, personal news-wise, honestly.
[00:18:09] Personal news-wise, the only thing I got for you
[00:18:14] is I didn't get to sleep a lot last night for obvious reasons.
[00:18:19] 8K viewers at midnight? I mean, yeah, that's normal. That was a special night.
[00:18:26] I'm very proud of you guys. I'm very proud of all of you. I'm very proud of the work that you put in
[00:18:33] This is your opportunity
[00:18:39] Boss said that how close it was he needs to separate from you
[00:18:44] Yeah, I know that every single person from the outside is gonna have election takes that are really fucking annoying like that
[00:18:52] And it's ironic because we won this race by an ass hair
[00:18:56] which means that like my involvement in the primaries was definitely well not
[00:19:01] only was it welcomed by the campaign but it definitely was to a certain degree
[00:19:05] necessary and we're not even talking about the fact that when I stopped with
[00:19:10] Abdulli went from third place to first place I'm talking specifically about the
[00:19:15] organizing the fundraising that we did the door knocking that we did so I don't
[00:19:21] want to hear from people who aren't personally involved in these sorts of
[00:19:29] incidents, in these sorts of races, who are coming from a place of timid
[00:19:37] restraint, coming from a place of fear, who actually hand it to the opposition,
[00:19:44] the oppositional framing, to say, look man, sorry, you're too toxic, you're far too
[00:19:48] toxic because the reality of the matter is perhaps if Abdul had listened to those concerns
[00:19:55] tonight would look awfully different today would look awfully different every little
[00:20:03] bit helps every little bit matters just like every dollar matters on the opposing front
[00:20:11] And there were many, many dollars on the opposing front, 70 million dollars.
[00:20:19] In smears, slanders, lies.
[00:20:22] Racialized animus tuned up.
[00:20:27] So yeah, for all of you, this is your moment to, you know, take a breather in and pat yourselves
[00:20:40] on the back. You did it. We all played a role in this and history being made. Now, of course,
[00:20:52] there's still a much longer way to go. There's still a much longer way to go.
[00:21:04] So,
[00:21:10] We will continue putting in the work
[00:21:15] But this communities, you know
[00:21:19] This community's biggest impact always gonna be under 45 turnout and I think we did a pretty good job at that
[00:21:27] So that's my job. That's the role I see for myself
[00:21:32] I'm in many respects a magnet for controversy
[00:21:35] but that controversy in the hands of an expert communicator like Abdul El Saed
[00:21:41] will turn into a media opportunity to get in front of more eyeballs
[00:21:48] and to put your platform on the national stage.
[00:21:51] And Abdul certainly worked it.
[00:21:54] He worked the rooms that he was in, all 500 up and down the state,
[00:21:59] and he certainly also worked the media to his advantage.
[00:22:04] That, at the end of the day, is the only take that matters.
[00:22:13] Not only am I, in some instances, a magnet for quote-unquote controversy because the
[00:22:19] media likes to create villains and heroes in stories.
[00:22:23] They like to prop people up, say that certain people are king-makers.
[00:22:28] Okay?
[00:22:30] Even if those people say that they're not.
[00:22:34] is a much more reliable narrative. It's a much more reliable narrative that you can cultivate.
[00:22:41] And when you make someone into a false king, you can also chop them down. It's a narrative device.
[00:22:53] It's a narrative device.
[00:22:54] And there's a lot of that that will take shape in this upcoming general election and we're
[00:23:06] going to be talking about that as well. But again, remember, $70 million, $70 million.
[00:23:16] Every vote mattered. Every door that was knocked on mattered. Every phone that was dialed mattered.
[00:23:27] Every single thing that you guys did mattered in this race. This is part of the reason why I was
[00:23:33] like worried and not as I mean I was definitely confident but perhaps not as confident as some
[00:23:41] others. And it came down to 14,000 votes in a state-wide race. That's huge.
[00:23:48] Turnout was incredible.
[00:23:54] Remember, never underestimate your opponents. Our opponents are incredibly
[00:24:02] powerful. Our opponents control American society. It's all of the corporations.
[00:24:08] It has an impact on American foreign policy. If votes and voting didn't matter, they wouldn't spend $80 million total in the Michigan Senate Democratic primary, 64 million of it coming from Haley Stevens.
[00:24:26] Okay.
[00:24:29] Obdual one of the results show you can't have shit in Detroit. Wrong.
[00:24:33] Wrong.
[00:24:34] Wrong. Those are not bad results. Those are good results for us
[00:24:40] because Haley Stevens is base of support
[00:24:44] Haley Stevens is base of support is
[00:24:48] who?
[00:24:49] the most active high propensity voters
[00:24:54] within the base of the Democratic Party
[00:24:58] Older black voters retirees
[00:25:01] these boomers who fall for the electability argument.
[00:25:07] What is the electability argument?
[00:25:10] The primary vehicle that drives them to the polls is to oppose the Republicans.
[00:25:17] The electability argument dictates that these are straight up, lifelong, down ticket, down
[00:25:26] ballot blue, no matter who writers of the party. Those people are going to come out and oppose
[00:25:35] my graduates. Those people are the people that would vote for the, you know, ham sandwich over
[00:25:42] Donald Trump people. Okay. Are you speaking like I've been lost? I'm not. I'm just tired.
[00:25:49] I'm a human being. I'm one person. Also, my voice is shot. Perhaps that's the reason why I sound a little bit tired. I apologize chatter.
[00:25:59] I don't know if you know this, but I was, you know, away from home for the last week almost and traveled all up and down.
[00:26:08] I went to Wisconsin. I was in Michigan. And last night I was up very, very late.
[00:26:16] So, that's the only reason why I sound the way that I do.
[00:26:23] But yeah, Abdul got more votes than Bernie Sanders did in either of his presidential
[00:26:34] runs.
[00:26:35] I mean, these numbers are incredible.
[00:26:37] Abdul in 2026 with 735,000 votes, Abdul got more votes than Elisa Slotkin did in her primary.
[00:26:46] And that was, you know, leading up to a general election with the president on the ballot.
[00:26:55] So, it was spectacular.
[00:27:00] The turnout was enormous. Your impact was important.
[00:27:08] Okay.
[00:27:14] and it's not gone unnoticed by me, it's not gone unnoticed by the relevant parties.
[00:27:24] You will hear from outsiders who are not involved, who are unaffiliated,
[00:27:32] so when some of those who are watching from afar give their takes on it,
[00:27:38] desperately trying to confirm their priors.
[00:27:42] That's precisely what the take machine is about.
[00:27:46] It's the spin room. The spin doctors were out last night.
[00:27:50] The spin doctors were out.
[00:27:54] Before the last vote was counted.
[00:27:58] First, while we were excited and enthusiastic about the night,
[00:28:02] they were devastated and they were already looking for a reason.
[00:28:06] to declare that this victory, this imminent victory, was actually inconsequential at the
[00:28:13] end of the day.
[00:28:17] The armchair quarterbacks will cry foul from afar.
[00:28:23] Those on the ground know what took place, and what took place last night, and what
[00:28:29] What took place over the last couple of months was the power of organized people.
[00:28:37] Organized people defeating organized money.
[00:28:44] That's exactly what happened.
[00:28:46] So I need you to understand no matter how much the naysayers, the outsiders, the DC insiders,
[00:28:54] corporate media class, no matter how much they try to take this victory away from us.
[00:29:03] No matter how much they try to reign on our parade,
[00:29:10] this was immense. This was historic.
[00:29:18] This was historic.
[00:29:19] Nobody spends $60 million to lose.
[00:29:26] Bernie Sanders himself recognized it in a press call that he gave earlier today.
[00:29:33] Or he said, I've never seen anything like it.
[00:29:36] So, I'll tell you right now.
[00:29:39] DC is scared.
[00:29:42] Organize money is terrified.
[00:29:45] That's why they're chirping. That's why their booze are getting louder. There is nothing
[00:29:58] that they can take away from us. $64 million, 34 of it coming straight from APAC and APAC
[00:30:11] subsidiaries. You understand me? Yeah.
[00:30:24] So it's up to you.
[00:30:36] To listen to the fucking haters.
[00:30:42] So up to you to listen to the fucking haters or is up to you.
[00:30:45] To lock the fuck in.
[00:30:49] getting cooked on the timeline. James Carville is time grandpa leave the party as you promised
[00:30:56] that's funny. Yeah. So I'll tell you what's going to happen next. I've called the shots so far.
[00:31:06] I've called the shots up until this moment. So told you what was going to happen and I'm
[00:31:14] still unbelievably confident about Abdul's chances against Mike Rogers in the general,
[00:31:20] more confident than I have ever before. Okay, more confident today than I was yesterday even.
[00:31:28] So I'll tell you what's going to happen next. Unfortunately, your boy,
[00:31:35] without wanting to be an active part of this beyond just helping out wherever I can, going
[00:31:48] where I'm needed.
[00:31:51] They are going to put the cross there.
[00:31:54] The Republicans are going to do that.
[00:31:55] They already started.
[00:31:58] And the Democrats that also have a significant distaste for the initiatives that we get
[00:32:05] up to here in the Hassanami broadcast will lean into those attacks.
[00:32:11] They know that they can't make Abdul shy away from his positions.
[00:32:16] His positions are ultimately fairly moderate.
[00:32:19] His positions are not radical at all.
[00:32:23] Perhaps the most radical position that he has is his Israel position.
[00:32:26] And I think we all know that that is only radical in Washington, D.C.
[00:32:33] That's not the radical position in the heartland.
[00:32:36] That's not the radical position in Michigan.
[00:32:40] That's the radical position for the corporate media, the radical position for the political
[00:32:46] class, the commentariat.
[00:32:49] But they know they can't make a budge on that.
[00:32:54] So what they will try to do is get a scalp.
[00:33:00] So they'll say, look, you got to cut the fucking, you got to trim the fat, you got to get this
[00:33:08] guy has son out of here.
[00:33:12] Just wait.
[00:33:15] They started last night.
[00:33:18] They started last night before they could even, before they even knew that they'd lost
[00:33:30] the election.
[00:33:32] That is waving the white flag of defeat.
[00:33:42] You understand?
[00:33:46] waving the white flag of defeat. It's already happening. It's a truly abnormal response.
[00:33:56] I mean, this person is irrelevant. That's just like a obsessed former fan behaving like
[00:34:02] a jilted lover. That's not what I'm talking about. What I'm actually talking about are
[00:34:07] like going to be the consultant class. They're going to go to the Abdul campaign. They're
[00:34:11] gonna say look you gotta you gotta at least throw us a bone you gotta throw
[00:34:16] us a bone and you gotta cut this guy out he's too radical he's too bold he
[00:34:21] says things that are unaccountable to you he says things that are unaccountable
[00:34:26] to you
[00:34:32] you don't want to be associated with this guy Republicans are gonna attack him
[00:34:37] So you have to shy away from him. Okay? Any kind of concession on that front will be showing your belly. Any kind of concession on that front will be weakness.
[00:34:52] Disavow the statement, not the platform. That's the name of the game.
[00:34:59] Why should this be a salient issue in an election? Do not play by their rules.
[00:35:08] Always flip the narrative. Use the opportunity you have in the spotlight to engage.
[00:35:19] Tackle the root cause. Why is this a problem? This is not a problem. This is not a concern.
[00:35:29] that Michiganders bring up to me in the 700 different town halls that I've had.
[00:35:35] They never ask me about an online commentator. What they ask me instead is how
[00:35:42] am I gonna make sure that I pay rent at the end of this month?
[00:35:50] That's it.
[00:35:53] They want to lower the stakes.
[00:36:01] They want to reduce the importance of this race by talking about content creators on
[00:36:06] the internet.
[00:36:08] You got to talk about data centers, DTE, and how DTE is an ever-present.
[00:36:20] I'm talking Michigan-specific now.
[00:36:22] For those of you who don't know, DTE is the major power provider.
[00:36:24] It's the worst in the country.
[00:36:27] Okay.
[00:36:30] I'm going to say DTE has ruined your life.
[00:36:34] They've donated every politician in the state, including Democrats.
[00:36:52] DTE is a terrible company, and the only reason why no politician seemingly holds DTE to account
[00:37:04] are they're terrified of freezing the rates, for example, which is a demand being made
[00:37:12] by many in the state. Very popular demand.
[00:37:20] That change never takes place. Why? It's because DTE buys the politicians. And at the federal
[00:37:30] level it's not just DTE, it's Chevron, it's Exxon, it's APEC, it's every major corporation
[00:37:41] and every major pack.
[00:37:45] This is how democracy is subverted.
[00:37:49] And we gotta put a stop to it.
[00:37:52] That's it.
[00:38:01] We have one job in this community.
[00:38:05] We represent,
[00:38:07] from the perspective of DC,
[00:38:09] we represent the activist base of the party.
[00:38:11] or the door knockers, or the phone bankers, or the canvassers. We are the excitement.
[00:38:20] We are the momentum. Okay. We're there to fight back against moneyed interest.
[00:38:33] The way I see my role is not to bring out 75 year olds to come out and vote for a candidate
[00:38:40] that I'm working with.
[00:38:50] The way I see my role and my responsibility is to bring out the under 45 vote, which we did.
[00:38:58] Which we did.
[00:39:02] You know, we're going to continue to do that in the general.
[00:39:10] But yeah, Mike Rogers is instant for straight out the gate attack ads.
[00:39:20] Mike Rogers is instant attacks immediately revolve around saying Abdul's a terrorist.
[00:39:26] Now the problem is this is Islamophobia, but many Democrats are also Islamophobic.
[00:39:32] So the Democrats will quote unquote hand it to Mike Rogers without recognizing what they're
[00:39:38] saying and doing.
[00:39:39] say, well, it's valid because you're hanging out with a Sompiker, not realizing that it's
[00:39:43] invalid regardless. Even if I wasn't there, they would say the same thing. Even if I was
[00:39:49] never there, they would say the same thing. That's why they swapped his name from Abdul
[00:39:53] al-Sayed to Abdul Rahman, Muhammad al-Sayed, instantly as soon as the general started.
[00:40:05] So any kind of concession that you offer to the Republican Party on their framing on this
[00:40:09] issue is handing them a rhetorical W. Do not do this.
[00:40:17] You understand?
[00:40:19] Do not do this.
[00:40:21] The Assan Abdul transitive property on display, Roger says he's running against someone who
[00:40:25] believes America deserve 9-11.
[00:40:30] that came out instantly after. It was clear that Obdolosa had won the election.
[00:40:37] By the way, I apologize. I'm like running into it already. I'm just, I'm going head first into it.
[00:40:43] We're going to analyze the results in a little bit. There's a lot to extrapolate from this.
[00:40:48] There's also a lot of takes, the spins, the take factory is very much alive and well.
[00:41:00] This was Mike Rogers' first ad out of the gate. You are who your friends are, and Abdelaw says our Al-Sayed's are radical leftists who hate America.
[00:41:08] I'm not here to disavow people's views.
[00:41:10] America deserves 9-11, dude. Fuck it, I'm saying it.
[00:41:13] I was in college, I took terraces of college.
[00:41:16] You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's a rest in our lives.
[00:41:20] I'm not here to disavow people's views.
[00:41:22] You know, I am in support of abolish me, I see.
[00:41:24] Because we're gonna call in your women.
[00:41:26] Hey, notice how it's not just me on that ad, by the way,
[00:41:29] for all the fucking libtarded sock-dems who think that they're making sound electoral analysis.
[00:41:35] Hey, notice something about all of the people that Abdel El Sayed is associated with in that ad.
[00:41:42] Do you think this is a reasonable critique that the Republicans are launching?
[00:41:45] For a statement that I, you know, said and apologized for eight fucking years ago at this
[00:41:52] point, do you think that there's any sound critique here? Do you think, why do you constantly find
[00:41:57] yourselves some some of you not not people in here but some on election
[00:42:02] twitter constantly find themselves rushing to hand it to the republicans
[00:42:06] for some strange reason do you think the republicans make a distinction between
[00:42:11] someone like myself and someone like iana pressley someone like myself and
[00:42:15] someone like zahram amdani do you think politicians are a little bit smarter than
[00:42:19] you and they recognize exactly what's going on here and perhaps that's the
[00:42:24] reason why they take this differently than you do. Everyone loves to be an arm
[00:42:28] share consultant. Backseat quarterback, backseat driver. Do you think this is
[00:42:38] coming from a place of well reasoned thought or do you think it's just like
[00:42:42] unbelievable racial agitation. Just racial agit-slop.
[00:43:12] I'm not here to disavow his views.
[00:43:14] Americans deserve 9-11, dude.
[00:43:21] Cynical...
[00:43:23] Cynical race pervertry from the pedophile defender.
[00:43:28] From the pedo-protection party.
[00:43:31] Okay.
[00:43:33] By the way, classic example of the societal tolerance for vicious Islamophobia while they attempt to prop up anti-Semitismism is this uniquely evil scourge.
[00:43:40] Yeah.
[00:43:42] Like the equivalent of this, the equivalent of this would be like, like a griper edit against the Jewish candidate. That would never happen, right?
[00:43:53] Like playing Havana Gila in the background for a Jewish candidate, being like, do you want this Jew to control the media and the banks and also the, you know, realm of politics now?
[00:44:08] That's the equivalent of what this is, okay?
[00:44:12] That's what this is.
[00:44:15] Black and brown people being presented
[00:44:18] as like radical America haters
[00:44:20] who wanna kill everybody in the country
[00:44:24] who love 9-11, all this shit, right?
[00:44:26] That's what this is, but ultimately, but ultimately here it is, okay.
[00:44:47] This is always a hurdle.
[00:44:50] This is always a hurdle.
[00:44:54] No matter what happens.
[00:44:55] is always a hurdle. But it's a hurdle you can climb. So ask yourself this, let's say
[00:45:08] Abdullah al-Sayyid is still named Abdul Rahman, Muhammad al-Sayyid. But on the one hand is
[00:45:16] policy platform is identical to Haley Stevens. On the other hand, you have the current Abdullah
[00:45:23] said who do you think has a better shot at winning? That's the thought experiment.
[00:45:32] A Muslim candidate with Haley Stevens' platform, which is not necessarily a real platform at all,
[00:45:44] versus the current Abdel El Sayed with the current Abdel El Sayed platform,
[00:45:47] who do you think is more competitive in the general? Because ultimately what these consultants
[00:45:53] want Abdul to do is moderate, moderate on the policies. Don't be so threatening the corporate
[00:45:59] interests because, and I'll give them credit. I've never been disinvolved in elections.
[00:46:07] I will give the establishment Democrats credit for one thing. They know, they know
[00:46:13] what elections look like. They know how to win elections. They know how to lose them too.
[00:46:17] Part of this cynicism, from my opinion, comes from the fact that they've been working in
[00:46:26] Washington DC for a very long time and they know the voters. They know how malleable the
[00:46:31] base can be. And perhaps more importantly, they know the power that money has. So part
[00:46:41] Part of the reason why a lot of the consultant class and the commentariat are so terrified
[00:46:48] of a candidate that opposes corporate PAC money, a candidate that fights back against
[00:46:53] that sort of thing and calls it out, part of the reason why they're terrified of that
[00:46:58] is because obviously it threatens their comfortable syndicures.
[00:47:03] But the other reason why they're terrified of it is because it is valid because a $70
[00:47:09] million dollar money cannon is virtually impossible to defeat.
[00:47:14] You have to be exceptional.
[00:47:17] You have to have tremendous messaging discipline.
[00:47:23] You have to have organic interest.
[00:47:26] You have to excite the base.
[00:47:28] You have to draw not only turnout, but also a real grassroots mobilization.
[00:47:36] You have to mobilize people to go out and knock on doors for you.
[00:47:41] That is the only way that you can defeat $70 million.
[00:47:48] And the inverse of it is that $70 million can still carry you to a close enough race,
[00:47:55] even if you don't have any policy.
[00:47:58] So from the most charitable estimation, my most charitable interpretation of why the
[00:48:05] DC consultant class is always running scared is because I do think that some of them understand
[00:48:13] how malleable voters are, how susceptible they are to television ads, and how much of
[00:48:20] that could be bought, like that, by corporate PACS.
[00:48:28] You understand? It works. It works very well.
[00:48:40] And I think that's part of the reason why a lot of people say, just moderate your positions. Just don't say anything about Israel.
[00:48:47] I think that is APEC's power. APEC is just a political action committee I'm talking about, okay?
[00:48:57] Apex Power as a political action committee, in my opinion, stems from not some kind of,
[00:49:09] you know, anti-Semitic suspicion that people have like where there's like, you know, Jewish
[00:49:15] hypnosis or whatever, of course, that's not the case.
[00:49:19] It comes from the fact that they can instill fear in the hearts and minds of every elected
[00:49:26] representative. It can get the amount of money that they can dump into small races, into
[00:49:32] otherwise sleepy races. Scares off people from saying what they know the overwhelming
[00:49:44] majority believe. That's why Abdelal Sayed's victory was unbelievably important.
[00:49:55] Because I hope that it will give people a little bit more courage to come out and reveal
[00:50:02] what their moral conviction is, or rather, what they know their base wants them to say.
[00:50:11] So any W, any victory that we seize from the onslaught of corporate expenditure is moving
[00:50:27] the needle in the appropriate direction in ways that you probably can't even fathom
[00:50:33] right now, in ways that you probably can't recognize at this moment.
[00:50:37] What do I mean by this?
[00:50:42] When Abdullas said, is uncompromising on the issue of Israel, and he still ends up winning,
[00:50:51] that shows other people who are paying attention in smaller races that they too can be unafraid.
[00:51:04] They too can say the truth.
[00:51:06] but surely slowly but surely it opens up new opportunities you guys keep saying
[00:51:12] like Liz Smith okay let's take a look at what she had to say as you guys know
[00:51:16] this myth famously it was the first person that that unfortunately for her
[00:51:24] experienced it firsthand Liz Smith is a famous consultant she is a big Pete
[00:51:29] Buddha judge consultant initially she's worked with Andrew Cuomo and stuff like
[00:51:33] that. But Liz Smith was consulting the Mallory McMorrow campaign. Some assume that the whole
[00:51:48] Abdul Al Sayed is hanging out with the Sondpiker. Let's make this a salient issue.
[00:51:51] came from Lismuth. Obviously, it turned into a spectacular failure for Mallory McMorrow,
[00:52:03] who ended up dropping out. It was actually a major success for us in ways that I even
[00:52:09] didn't think it would be. Okay, I thought it would be good for Abdul. I thought it would
[00:52:18] be good for our side to draw a wedge to show that you are on the 10% side of a 90-10 issue
[00:52:26] on the issue of Gaza. But I didn't think it would be this good, right? But let's see,
[00:52:33] her analysis might have shifted. This is on election night.
[00:52:37] If you looked at the 2024 election and have talked to voters since then, they would tell
[00:52:43] you, Democratic voters, that they are sick and tired of the establishment. They're sick
[00:52:46] of the status quo, they want something different.
[00:52:49] So, you know, what did the geniuses of the DSCC do?
[00:52:53] They went and found the most typical politician you could.
[00:52:56] They recruited based on resume.
[00:52:58] Before term Congresswoman, tons of relationships in DC.
[00:53:02] You could raise gobs of money.
[00:53:03] Guess what?
[00:53:04] People do not vote on resumes anymore.
[00:53:07] They want someone who can speak to the anger,
[00:53:10] who can call for change, who can, you know,
[00:53:13] excite them to go out and vote.
[00:53:15] And that was not something that Haley Stevens offered.
[00:53:19] And this idea of electability, I hate that we've
[00:53:22] discussed it so much, but let me tell you something.
[00:53:24] Electability is not something that can be conferred
[00:53:28] by people in Washington, DC.
[00:53:30] It is the voters who decide what is electable.
[00:53:33] And what is electable, more electable in this cycle,
[00:53:36] at least in this Democratic primary,
[00:53:37] is someone who understands the anger that voters feel
[00:53:41] versus someone who is just presenting a traditional political resume, you know?
[00:53:51] Okay. I mean, it's a start. So that's good. John Fenderman crashes out, crashes out over,
[00:53:57] I'll also say winning and starts crying about Sampai Granada John Stewart podcast. He's a big,
[00:54:00] big influence to comedy to celebrate. He's proud to visit Cuba.
[00:54:03] Yeah, we got the extended interview. The Democratic Party Civil War James Carvel and
[00:54:13] Hassan Piker face off, even though we don't actually face off. When Bernie was asked about
[00:54:18] you plus panel discussion, mentioning you later.
[00:54:20] Bernie asked me about one of those campaign events because just last night, the popular
[00:54:25] but very controversial streamer Hassan Piker was at one of El Sayed's final events. The two did
[00:54:32] a stream together, a fairly lengthy stream.
[00:54:35] I know that you've spoken to Hassan Piker in the past,
[00:54:39] but are you comfortable with El Said
[00:54:41] having a close association with him,
[00:54:43] given some of his past statements?
[00:54:46] To give you an example,
[00:54:48] one of the more controversial ones is that Piker has said,
[00:54:51] America deserved 9-11.
[00:54:53] Are you comfortable with that association?
[00:54:56] No, I am not.
[00:54:56] I think that's a dumb statement.
[00:54:58] On the other hand, he has a whole lot of followers,
[00:55:00] There's a lot of things that he's saying that are making sense to a lot of people.
[00:55:03] I think, you know, we'd have to get above cancel culture, you know, when you're doing
[00:55:07] radio, whatever they do, podcasts, three hours radio, I love Bernie, dude.
[00:55:15] I love Bernie someone, you know, when you're doing radio, whatever you're doing.
[00:55:23] They're talking for three hours. They're doing the radios. They're doing the podcasts.
[00:55:27] They're on the interwebs. Controversial radio hosts. No, he's right. He's nailing it. He's
[00:55:37] so, he's, I mean, it's just funny cause he said I do radio. He's been on my stream so
[00:55:43] many times at this point. And it is just really funny that it's virtually impossible for him
[00:55:48] to, you know, to, to understand what Twitch streaming is.
[00:55:53] Um, one of the things that people did where, uh, was they, they clipped our boy, they clipped onk out of context as well.
[00:56:01] He was saying that, uh, he was saying that he like disavows the statement, not the person, not the platform.
[00:56:07] Right.
[00:56:07] Like that's the classic thing that people say, right.
[00:56:12] Um, and, and they were like, yeah, no, Bernie hates his son or something like that is very funny.
[00:56:20] Uh, near attending.
[00:56:21] Senator Bernie Sanders said, tell CNN he's not comfortable. Abdel said, oh, this was
[00:56:27] there. Uh, near attended said, what I have learned tonight is a lot of posters and putters
[00:56:31] in the Democratic party ecosystem are very good at talking to white college educated
[00:56:33] voters like themselves and a real blind spot. So we're working class people of all races.
[00:56:37] I said, are you committed to building a Senate then majority? And she posted the, the out
[00:56:41] of context, uh, Bernie Sanders quote. And I, I know near attended knows what she's doing.
[00:56:48] Oh, no, I'm so I'm so devastated. I like even if Bernie Sanders had said something like yeah, I think focus on like
[00:56:55] Like what happens when what happens when he comes on the stream again? Like
[00:56:59] What now you know what I mean like what you don't even like Bernie Sanders. Why do you give a shit?
[00:57:05] What he has to say
[00:57:06] This is of course her second go at it
[00:57:10] because she initially responded to me probably drunk off wine and
[00:57:14] And maybe her favorite form of benzos or opiates, allegedly, dude, I haven't you done enough damage. Was it your idea to pose by the pool on election Eve? I want to build a Senate majority and that probably would be held by your return to LA.
[00:57:31] Now, what's really interesting about this is, once again, given the margin of victory here, every vote mattered.
[00:57:39] mattered. Does near attendant think that I run the Abdul El Sayed campaign? Does near attendant think
[00:57:47] that I was the one who was like, let's do a pool party before? Let's do a pool party the day prior
[00:57:53] to the election? Like, does she think I have any decision making power here? Well, clearly she
[00:58:01] didn't actually think that that was the case because she was embarrassed by the stupid fucking
[00:58:06] response that she delivered, so she deleted it. And then came back with a quote out of
[00:58:11] context of Bernie Sanders. If you suggested the pool party, why the hell would you show
[00:58:26] up in the wrong type of suit. Yeah. I know that for a lot of people who are stuck on
[00:58:37] Twitter, whose brains are completely melted by being on Twitter so much, they think, I
[00:58:44] guess I'm responsible for the polls. They think I'm responsible for all the campaign
[00:58:48] events. I didn't go to Michigan to go to a pool party. I went to Michigan to knock on
[00:58:55] doors, the cannabis, and not only for Abdul Al-Sayed, but also for Donovan McKinney, who
[00:59:01] won his race. The fundraise for Donovan McKinney, the phone bank for him, which we did.
[00:59:09] We weren't there for pool parties, but if people tell me to attend something, I'm going to attend it.
[00:59:15] I have no say in the matter. Okay. I think a lot of people, like I said, are desperately trying to
[00:59:25] Throw some stink on this victory to the best of their ability.
[00:59:33] We're not going to let it happen, okay?
[00:59:40] Yeah, I was in and out.
[00:59:43] I was there at the pool party for five minutes.
[00:59:47] That was enough for near attendant.
[00:59:52] I think I fully updated the endorsement tracker for you when you want, yeah.
[01:00:22] Here it is. Here's the endorsement tracker. We now have four losses on here. Unfortunately,
[01:00:39] Hartzell Gray with a close loss and Corey Bush with a devastating loss in Missouri.
[01:00:47] Now, when people, people are going to come in here and say, what the fuck happened with
[01:00:52] Corey?
[01:00:53] What happened with Corey?
[01:00:55] I'll tell you what happened with Corey.
[01:01:00] 27 to 1.
[01:01:03] That's what happened with Corey Bush.
[01:01:08] Corey Bush was outspent almost 30 to 1.
[01:01:13] So yes, money is still unbelievably important in races.
[01:01:22] So there is a degree.
[01:01:24] Now we know the margin.
[01:01:26] Now we know, wasn't that last time?
[01:01:31] Last time and this time, the total is like, the total is insane.
[01:01:43] And that still has an impact.
[01:01:54] It still has an impact.
[01:01:55] So we know what that margin looks like.
[01:01:59] The narrative for Cory Bush was set in the last election two years ago, okay?
[01:02:08] APAC adjusted.
[01:02:09] didn't, APEC didn't spend the same amount because it wasn't unseating an
[01:02:13] incumbent, but defending an incumbent this time around.
[01:02:17] And there were still people in this election cycle, talking about last election
[01:02:23] cycles, smears, last election, the smears were Corey Bush did not vote ever.
[01:02:32] She was never around.
[01:02:33] That narrative was so powerful when she was the incumbent that it still existed in this race.
[01:02:44] Did you follow Koshama Savant at all in Seattle? No, I did not.
[01:02:49] But Koshama Savant is a great example of what happens when you run on the independent ballot line.
[01:02:55] I mean, sorry, I know that a lot of people get mad, but this is the reason why I agree with
[01:03:01] with. If we're going to participate in elections, this is why I agree with the DSA method of
[01:03:06] participating on the elections and running on the Democratic Party line. That's the
[01:03:12] the truth. We are not, we are not there yet, especially for a congressional race. We're
[01:03:29] not there yet. The DSA Tea Party moment, if you want to call it that, is barely able to
[01:03:40] make an impact with the limited, with the limited opportunities that we have in congressional races,
[01:03:50] we saw, we saw how tough that battle is for a statewide seat, specifically a senate seat.
[01:04:00] Okay? It is very, very difficult. And I hope that people can be a little bit more reasonable
[01:04:14] about where people are. Okay? Like, I need you guys to understand this is why I always
[01:04:22] stress the importance of like being normal and recognizing where the masses are and tailoring
[01:04:27] your message to where the masses are. Speak to the masses, speak to their desires, speak
[01:04:34] to their pain, offer a lend a helping hand, and be where the masses are. And still for
[01:04:43] the time being, the masses still self identify as liberals broadly.
[01:04:57] Does the guy who refuses to start wearing the Chinese suit?
[01:05:01] I mean, there's a degree of silliness that people engage with.
[01:05:07] But I'm fairly certain that the normies on the Chinese suit saga responded in the way that was expected.
[01:05:14] Who gives a shit? Was the resounding response.
[01:05:18] Also, I'm not a candidate. I'm not a political candidate.
[01:05:25] Okay.
[01:05:45] People asked me, didn't Cory Bush scam us?
[01:05:47] And I just couldn't believe how susceptible the misinformation campaigns people are even with my own extended family.
[01:05:51] people predominantly get their political opinions from what's being fed to them on TV. No one can
[01:05:55] be bothered to do the littlest bit of reading. Yeah, it makes sense.
[01:06:11] This poll found that Bernie Oseanzara were the most popular politicians in Missouri one.
[01:06:17] Okay. And yet, Cori Bush in her own district was minus 27. That is how powerful the last
[01:06:33] cycles ad spend still was. Okay. What is this? The populace left as a theory from Michelle
[01:06:42] Goldberg? God damn it. I have to, I don't have an account. God, we got to fucking...
[01:06:58] I have to somehow get around the paywall here.
[01:07:05] I mean, you see it, you see it every day with even something as silly as myself with some,
[01:07:11] or something as silly as like a Twitch streamer. You see it all the time. I mean, think about
[01:07:16] the amount of earned media that I get that I receive in negative ad spend, right?
[01:07:21] This is my, this is my take. Truly no offense intended to the Samba expecting normal people to
[01:07:34] know who a Twitch Trimmer is is actually crazy. Exactly. No, that's, that's, that's my take.
[01:07:41] It's an extremely online and extremely, extremely echo chambered take.
[01:07:54] You understand?
[01:08:04] But unfortunately, while Twitter is not real life, and this little pocket on the internet
[01:08:10] that we exist in is not real life either, although we can have an impact in real life
[01:08:14] and we shelled that last night, Twitter is still the news editor of mainstream media.
[01:08:25] This course that thrives on Twitter makes its way to mainstream news outlets.
[01:08:36] That's how you arrive at funny situations like this at Haley Stevens event in Traverse
[01:08:40] City.
[01:08:41] The last day, closing statements coming from the Haley Stevens campaign when former Senator
[01:08:46] Debbie Stabenow was asked with the role of attack dog she described, was tasked with the
[01:08:51] role of attack dog she described.
[01:08:53] Twitch streamer L Slavs supporter Asana Khan is probably the biggest anti-Semi in the media.
[01:08:57] The jab barely registered with the attendees.
[01:09:03] 25 to 30 people at a brewery.
[01:09:06] Heavily 65 plus year old crowd.
[01:09:11] No one thought that that was a salient point.
[01:09:16] You understand?
[01:09:20] So it's interesting for me, I'm like, someone told Debbie Stabenow to say that.
[01:09:30] Someone armed her with that talking point.
[01:09:32] Okay, someone armed her with that talking point, even if it's an ineffective one.
[01:09:39] So the question I always have in moments like this is, are they saying this?
[01:09:47] Are they are they saying this because they think it's a good talking point?
[01:09:51] Are they saying this because they want to defang one arm of the insurgent left's media platforms
[01:09:57] that exist, right?
[01:10:03] Like what is the purpose here?
[01:10:05] Are there some big donors that have put the beat on me?
[01:10:08] Guys, I don't care about Jonathan Greenblatt.
[01:10:09] Please stop fucking linking me shit, especially from Jonathan Greenblatt, especially right
[01:10:13] now.
[01:10:14] Okay.
[01:10:15] let me get through one fucking take
[01:10:21] i suspect it's a little bit of all of the above there's uh... there's definitely
[01:10:25] uh... a decent amount of hysteria amongst the boomer crats
[01:10:29] who have decided in their minds that i'm just like radical terrorist
[01:10:34] infiltrating the ranks of the democratic party
[01:10:38] there's definitely some big donors
[01:10:42] definitely some big donors out there who
[01:10:45] have decided we have to discredit this fucking guy, we have to discredit this platform,
[01:10:52] and then there's more tactical decisions being made behind the scenes as well.
[01:11:00] I suspect that this is a product of all of those things. There's also, you know, I mean,
[01:11:08] And it's a disciplining operation as I talk to Chris Rab about.
[01:11:16] Surprisingly uncut reporting from the national review from last night's interview, they put
[01:11:19] 100% of your words in the article.
[01:11:21] Good.
[01:11:22] You've said dumb things.
[01:11:26] I suspect if you go back over to your career, there may be one or two things that you've
[01:11:29] said that you may have regretted.
[01:11:31] But I think what we have got...
[01:11:33] Abby gives him nothing on that, by the way.
[01:11:36] Cold.
[01:11:37] to do is look at the totality of where people are coming from and go forward.
[01:11:44] So when someone like James Carville says he doesn't want to be in the same political
[01:11:48] party as Hassan Piker, I don't think Abby Phillips haze me.
[01:11:52] I don't think I don't think she haze me.
[01:11:54] I think I think she's like agnostic.
[01:11:56] Which one are you going to take?
[01:11:58] Well, that's not much of a choice.
[01:12:00] So Mr. Carville doesn't want to be in my party and the party that I belong to that Piker
[01:12:05] that I'll tell us as Syed belongs to, you can start his own party at the, you know, look,
[01:12:12] what we are doing now is, you know, you could turn the tables around and say, do you really
[01:12:17] want to be in a party where your leadership is taking huge amounts of money from APAC,
[01:12:24] which is supporting an exchange?
[01:12:25] Have you got an invite from any of the outlets for the Bullshit Today's B.O.V.E. value?
[01:12:29] No.
[01:12:30] Guys, here's the other side of the story.
[01:12:33] a lot of people develop their perspective off of clips out of context
[01:12:37] if they were to actually
[01:12:39] hear me talk
[01:12:42] if they were to actually invite me to any of these broadcast they would very
[01:12:45] quickly recognize that the image that they presented me is totally ridiculous
[01:12:50] that is the reason why it's much better
[01:12:52] to not hear from me directly but instead to talk about me all the fucking time
[01:12:58] that's why these platforms will offer endless coverage to what i'm saying
[01:13:03] And what I'm doing, most of the time it's negatively framed or even better if they can get someone who would otherwise be a close ally to
[01:13:11] unendorse me or to yell about me or to disavow me or something, right?
[01:13:18] But we know what it looks like when I get a full interview.
[01:13:22] Okay.
[01:13:22] This is what it looks like when I get a full interview.
[01:13:25] Channel four did it.
[01:13:26] Watch this interview and tell me with a straight face that a Sampaiger is a threat to public order and absurd decision to block him.
[01:13:30] totally on brand for Shabana Mahmood and the labor party together. It will be a real test of how
[01:13:34] much Burnham can constrain Mahmood's most authoritarian instincts when Piker reapplies.
[01:13:39] But here, that's the, that's the reality. Like, you know this already. I talk for eight hours a day
[01:13:46] as a part of my job. I'm actually pretty good on my feet in these sorts of somewhat contentious
[01:13:53] interviews, non-contentious interviews, contentious interviews. You know, I've done it all over. I go
[01:13:58] on podcasts all the time. I give television interviews when people ask me to, okay?
[01:14:09] That's the reality. That's also part of the reason why CNN will never have me on. That's part
[01:14:14] of the reason why MSNBC will never have me on because it's much more effective to just talk over
[01:14:20] me. It's much more, it would be great for them as far as driving clicks, driving excitement,
[01:14:26] I think a lot of people would watch primetime television, me versus Dana Bash or me versus Jake Tapper, they would love to watch that, but there, there's a reason why that's not going to happen, because it's much better for Jake Tapper to have Hillary Skolton on, to call me a anti-Semitic terrorist, like perhaps one of the worst anti-Semitic terrorists of all time, you know?
[01:14:50] You know?
[01:14:55] Extremist Netanyahu government that many of us believe have committed genocide.
[01:15:01] You want to be in a party with people who do that?
[01:15:03] You want to be in a party which has not stood up to the AI industry because they got a lot
[01:15:09] of money from AI or from crypto.
[01:15:12] Your time is almost up in this phase of celebrity.
[01:15:14] What does that mean?
[01:15:16] Why are you trying to sound cool?
[01:15:19] I'm not a celebrity, man. I'm a fucking Twitch streamer. I'm just a guy. I said, I don't know man
[01:15:25] You folded like a napkin. Holy shit
[01:15:29] Hold it under zero pressure. Jesus Christ. Pick whatever you want to pick
[01:15:33] But I think we need a big tent and I think people like pika I should be welcome into that certainly
[01:15:39] Just a quick final question for you senator
[01:15:42] If voters do choose to nominate Congresswoman Stevens tonight, would you support her in the general election if it meant?
[01:15:49] I mean, he said yes to that question. How many times now?
[01:15:57] Echelon Insights evidence suggests that Haley Stevens was helped by crossover Republican
[01:16:01] votes in the Metro Detroit area.
[01:16:07] So I guess they tried to do a it's comb over moment and Abdul hit him with the Zoran, the
[01:16:14] The Zoran blast, perhaps, I don't know.
[01:16:20] It turns out Trump's biggest de-owner, Maddie Maroon, was out there, you know?
[01:16:33] I do everything I can to put a break on Trump's disastrous policies.
[01:16:43] We need to them have Democrats control the House and the Senate, and I will do my best
[01:16:47] to elect all Democrats to the United States Senate.
[01:16:53] Senator Bernie Sanders, we appreciate your time.
[01:16:54] Thank you very much for joining us.
[01:16:57] Thank you.
[01:16:58] Now, before we open it up to the table, once again, I want to invite you at home to join
[01:17:03] the debate, head to CNN.com, weigh in on that interview and the rest of our discussions
[01:17:08] throughout the show will get some of your comments as we go along.
[01:17:12] But here in New York, Scott Jennings, your response to what Senator Sanders had to say.
[01:17:18] Oh, here we go.
[01:17:20] What is this monster going to say?
[01:17:21] Again, panel entirely comprised of liberals who don't like me and then reactionary charlatans
[01:17:26] who are firmly committed to the petto protection squad.
[01:17:31] grandald pedophiles party
[01:17:33] well i mean right at the end
[01:17:35] he ultimately said yes i want people like a sign piker in my political party
[01:17:39] were big ten he wants people in the party that say
[01:17:41] america deserve nine eleven he wants people in his party that
[01:17:44] or out there uh... idealizing uh...
[01:17:47] uh... chairman mal and the like i mean
[01:17:50] this is not something i would be embracing if i were
[01:17:53] uh... trying to
[01:17:54] build a political party that could appeal to
[01:17:57] you know mainstream americans i think they're going to deeply regret these
[01:18:00] associations. Dude, Donald Trump is the president. It is literally, we are living in a very different
[01:18:08] media environment. A big part of the reason why Donald Trump won the presidency was because
[01:18:12] he was unashamed, unapologetic, and he was a boulder that was going to put a hatchet
[01:18:18] through the institutions. Okay. That's what the broad base of support is coming from.
[01:18:28] That's what the demand is, okay?
[01:18:34] Anyone who can actually capture that populist rage and redirect it back to appropriate avenues
[01:18:40] in spite of the money cannon that they will have to face in retaliation for doing such
[01:18:47] things will win, okay?
[01:18:53] That's it.
[01:18:55] The 9-11 thing is so overused. I swear mainstream media love it so much. I know, and it wasn't
[01:19:01] used at all. It was, it's a post October 7 rehashing. I've been interviewed a million,
[01:19:08] I've been interviewed a million times by all of these outlets. I've had profiles, puff
[01:19:14] pieces, whatever. Many, many years past the point of the 9-11 comments, they would just
[01:19:19] like briefly mention it, or never mention it at all. It just got spammed after Cuomo deployed
[01:19:25] it against Zora Mamdani, even though it was ineffective. It was effective in terms of setting
[01:19:31] a precedent. Anytime this person is discussed, the 9-11 comments will be discussed alongside
[01:19:37] it. Okay?
[01:19:44] totally disingenuous. But the problem is, the problem is, I talk a lot. So there's no expectation,
[01:19:55] at least from my perspective, at least from where I'm standing, because I'm not running for office
[01:19:59] or anything like that, for anyone to operate like a surrogate for me. I don't expect Bernie Sanders
[01:20:04] to know the context behind every single thing that I've said, you know? So the best possible thing
[01:20:11] thing that they can do is go, I don't care. Like this is utterly irrelevant in the realm
[01:20:18] of elections is utterly irrelevant. You know, people talk a lot. This guy talks a lot. He's
[01:20:26] a talker. He's a yapper. You know, there's you're going to arrive at something that sounds
[01:20:32] stupid or silly. I need your advice, bro. It's an emergency. Let me guess, you're going
[01:20:38] get banned for sure it's coming where the fuck is this on scuba okay you're getting time now for that
[01:20:56] it doesn't exactly 0 success rate i don't know why they keep spamming it after the candidate they
[01:21:00] try to attack with it keep winning um they keep spamming it because even if they can't take out
[01:21:06] the candidate, at least they can take out a messenger. Because I think at this stage,
[01:21:15] how I perceive myself is utterly irrelevant. How mainstream media perceives me, how corporate
[01:21:22] media perceives me is far more relevant to understand why they're behaving this way.
[01:21:28] And from their perspective, I think, this is a threat. This is a large enough platform,
[01:21:39] a large enough force that is capable of galvanizing a base of support for the left
[01:21:47] insurgent candidacies that will go up against corporate interests,
[01:21:51] that needs to be dismantled, defanged, discredited in some capacity. And that's precisely what's
[01:21:59] going on, which is why, which is why I find it rather strange when people who are like,
[01:22:05] well, I'm a progressive, but a song really needs to shut the fuck up. Like when I hear
[01:22:08] takes like that, I'm like, you have no understanding of anything. You think you are making a reasonable
[01:22:16] critique here, okay? But what you're doing is falling for the trap that antagonistic
[01:22:25] people in positions of power are setting for you.
[01:22:29] The moment that you concede on your opposition's framing, if you oppose corporate interests,
[01:22:35] if you oppose do nothing Democrats, if you oppose reactionary Republicans, and you turn
[01:22:40] around, and you actually concede on their framing, you're falling for their trap, okay?
[01:22:50] You're falling for their trap.
[01:22:51] It's that it's it's it's it's pundit braid.
[01:22:54] You're not a consultant, but you're falling for it.
[01:22:59] So one must ask the question why all of these other politicians that you admire and adore
[01:23:06] not falling for it. You won't catch AOC doing it. You won't catch Bernie Sanders doing it.
[01:23:13] You won't catch Zoran doing it. You won't catch Abdul doing it. You won't catch Chris
[01:23:18] Rabb doing it. May like heroes, Donovan McKinney. Why don't they do this? Why don't all of the
[01:23:25] politicians that you like, why don't they do it? And if they're not doing it and they're seeing
[01:23:33] something different from what you're interpreting here, even if you are sincere, even if you're
[01:23:39] sincere in the fear that you have about a negative impact that I might have on a race
[01:23:46] due to my association, due to my radical nature, due to the format of this platform that I'm on,
[01:23:52] where I'm talking for hours on end on contentious issues, and there's always going to be unique
[01:23:58] opportunities to clip me in bad faith to frame something that I'm saying negatively. Okay?
[01:24:09] Even if you have a sincere concern that it's going to disparage your favorite content creator
[01:24:14] or your favorite, not content creator, your favorite politician,
[01:24:20] why doesn't your favorite politician do the same? Because at the end of the day they understand,
[01:24:25] just like the democratic socialists of America understand, that there is a necessity for independent
[01:24:32] media. There's a necessity for these platforms. We need to exist. I'm not overemphasizing my
[01:24:39] importance here in any way, shape, or form. I don't think I'm all that significant at the end of the
[01:24:44] day, but I will say this broadly speaking, without drop site, without breaking points, without myself,
[01:24:53] without majority report, without all of these different places where insurgent
[01:24:57] candidates can launch their campaigns to be in front of as many eyeballs as
[01:25:00] possible without a detail. The Abdul Al Sayed campaign would not have gotten the
[01:25:06] the strong reception that it desperately needed. Okay? Secular talk as well. Yes.
[01:25:15] Without the lever, this media ecosystem is an absolute necessity, especially when
[01:25:22] and corporate media will never give you an opportunity
[01:25:27] to deliver your message to as broad an audience as possible.
[01:25:33] So if you consider yourself to be a part
[01:25:36] of this insurgent left movement,
[01:25:40] why would you, why would you defang it?
[01:25:47] Here's Debbie Dingle who came to our rally.
[01:25:52] When Abdul El-Sahed and myself did a rally in first Lansing and then in Ann Arbor many,
[01:26:00] many months ago, as the race, as the, as the tide of Abdul's race shifted dramatically
[01:26:07] in our favor, Debbie Dingle, who is a very important politician for the state of Michigan,
[01:26:14] who I have a lot of respect for, whose husband basically wrote Medicare for all, okay?
[01:26:20] Debbie Dingle, who is very good with her instincts, Debbie Dingle, who also famously
[01:26:27] was critical of Hillary Rodham Clinton, who was also critical of, of what was going on
[01:26:32] in Michigan twice and was correct twice.
[01:26:35] Okay.
[01:26:36] And OG Debbie Dingle was at that Ann Arbor Rally at University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
[01:26:45] Associated Press approached her said, wow, Debbie, are you here to endorse Abdul Al
[01:26:49] Sayed?
[01:26:50] months ago, right? Mallory McMorrah was still in the race.
[01:26:53] Haley Stevens was seen as the, as the front runner.
[01:27:00] Debbie Dingle said, look,
[01:27:03] I'm here to understand why so many young people are at
[01:27:08] this rally months out from a primary during the midterms.
[01:27:13] During the midterms and she said I've never seen this much youth enthusiasm in a primary
[01:27:24] five, six months out from a midterm election for a Senate seat.
[01:27:37] That's why she's always stayed ahead of the game.
[01:27:41] Now, let's take a look at what she said on Newsmax.
[01:27:46] And you know, that to me is, you know, I guess we also have our one item, you know, something
[01:27:52] of a litmus test.
[01:27:53] But to me, to campaign today, I would have tried to bury him if he were a supporter of
[01:27:58] me, like, you know, just maybe take his kind of pain contribution, but that's about all.
[01:28:03] Why would he campaign with him today?
[01:28:05] So here's the thing.
[01:28:07] This is old school, okay?
[01:28:10] do not understand, and they perhaps will never understand, but that's good, underestimating
[01:28:16] us is a good thing, okay? Here's the problem, Rob Dool. If he were to do that, if he were
[01:28:24] to come out and be like, I disavow this guy, this guy sucks, he would win nothing from
[01:28:31] that exercise. He would win nothing at all from that exercise. Perhaps some of the moderates
[01:28:36] who despise them would pull back from their attacks. Not voters, though, because at the
[01:28:42] end of the day, you're trying to win voters because voters don't ultimately care about
[01:28:46] this, right? Maybe some of these moderate consultants that would call Abdul al-Sayed
[01:28:52] a nasty terrorist or an anti-Semite on mainstream media would maybe scale back a little bit.
[01:29:00] Okay. I would still push for Abdull regardless of how many in my community might find him to be, you know,
[01:29:13] hard to trust after that. Because I, at the end of the day, only care about the policies. I only care
[01:29:19] about the progress. I only care about this movement, right? But ultimately, that would
[01:29:27] do two things. It's the same principle with Hamas disavowal. Okay? If you recall, going back to
[01:29:36] the previous election cycle with Kamala Harris, whenever there was a protest, a pro-Palestine
[01:29:42] protest, people go to those protests and be like, see, there's a person there that is like pro-Hamas.
[01:29:49] And then they would go to every Democrat and say, Kamala Harris, disavow this pro-Hamas
[01:29:54] protester. That was always a stupid exercise. Because when you disavow, even if you disagree,
[01:30:02] just don't disavow. Why? Because when you disavow the pro-Hamas protester, you took ownership over
[01:30:10] that person, okay? You now not only took ownership over that person, but you also turned around and
[01:30:19] And he said, this is what my movement looks like.
[01:30:22] And I'm actually embarrassed by it.
[01:30:25] Okay.
[01:30:26] You don't ever have to do that.
[01:30:29] You do not ever have to do that.
[01:30:31] It only harms you.
[01:30:32] There is no upside, only downsides when you do that.
[01:30:35] In a similar situation exists here,
[01:30:37] if I'll do the word to come out and be like,
[01:30:38] yeah, you know what, you guys are right.
[01:30:40] I fucked up.
[01:30:41] I should never ask this guy to stump with me.
[01:30:43] He's a bad guy.
[01:30:45] That process of throwing someone under the bus,
[01:30:47] maybe in the 90s used to work.
[01:30:49] It's called the sister soldier moment. Bill Clinton did this. A closer, a more recent
[01:30:59] example of this is Barack Obama distancing himself publicly, cutting ties with Reverend
[01:31:06] Wright, Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Okay.
[01:31:14] By my estimation, we're in a very different media environment now, that's number one.
[01:31:19] And that matters, that's important.
[01:31:22] But number two, I don't think that distancing operation is actually all that beneficial.
[01:31:31] Because you only look weaker.
[01:31:36] In this current political landscape, you just look weaker.
[01:31:40] Okay?
[01:31:41] Okay. And it turns out we don't even have to look at the results and wonder if it was
[01:31:54] beneficial or not. While consultants on the outside establishment Democrats who fucking
[01:32:02] despise me. You could say, oh, this race was close because of Hassan. They're wrong. Every
[01:32:13] vote mattered at the end of the day. And it's very clear that these communities' efforts
[01:32:20] played a formative role in carrying this campaign across the finish line.
[01:32:25] That's it.
[01:32:29] That's it.
[01:32:33] Obviously it takes a village.
[01:32:35] It's not one thing.
[01:32:36] There's not one singular event or one singular person.
[01:32:41] That ends up securing victory.
[01:32:43] Although this is one of the very unique races where we could point to one singular event.
[01:32:49] was the classic like, you know, us dumping together and then Obdull going from third
[01:32:53] place to first place. There's obviously a point that we can, a point that we can like
[01:32:57] directly look at and interpret. I mean, that's what the polls showed as well. Mitchell and
[01:33:05] numerous other polls were like, this was the turning point for Obdull, I'll say. But of
[01:33:09] course, it doesn't matter because if Obdull didn't have the, the charisma, if he didn't
[01:33:16] have the skill, and if he more importantly didn't have the policies, he would not have
[01:33:20] been able to take that media attention and flip it around.
[01:33:23] I think it's safe to say that we helped win at least three close races this cycle.
[01:33:33] Dottie, Elisa, Donovan, McKinney, and Abdul were the margins showed that our help was
[01:33:36] a big difference.
[01:33:37] I think so too.
[01:33:40] Yeah.
[01:33:45] The close races were not lost because of our, or the close races were not close because
[01:33:49] of our involvement.
[01:33:51] We won those races because of our involvement.
[01:33:55] It's so totally ridiculous.
[01:33:58] So I'm going to actually tell you, I'm Debbie.
[01:34:03] So I don't follow, I don't follow him.
[01:34:06] And when he was here earlier in the year, he was here in my district and anybody who
[01:34:09] knows me knows, I try to understand what people are thinking.
[01:34:12] and I tried to understand the mood.
[01:34:14] And so I went to the back of the event that he was at,
[01:34:19] because it was in my district,
[01:34:21] and I'm just trying to understand him.
[01:34:23] And I quite frankly,
[01:34:26] don't agree with many of the statements
[01:34:28] that St. Piper has made,
[01:34:29] but he is a very, I've learned, very, very popular online.
[01:34:35] Has a, he's an influencer.
[01:34:37] He has a great deal of followers.
[01:34:39] And that's the way that Abdul's been running his campaign.
[01:34:43] He's run a very strong social media campaign.
[01:34:47] I actually, I mean, I don't get how he has so many followers
[01:34:51] to be perfectly frank, but I'm following him now
[01:34:55] because I'm trying to understand it.
[01:34:57] So I'm not defending it.
[01:34:59] I don't agree with things that he has said,
[01:35:02] but it's an interesting phenomenon
[01:35:04] and you can tell that there's a difference in generations
[01:35:07] because I don't know, he's got a lot of followers
[01:35:12] and I'm still trying to, I guess he works out
[01:35:14] and when he works out, he looks really good.
[01:35:16] No.
[01:35:19] Oh my God.
[01:35:21] Oh my God, Debbie Dingle, that is great.
[01:35:24] Why did you say that?
[01:35:27] Ain't no way.
[01:35:29] I just, oh my God.
[01:35:33] Am I on, is Debbie Dingle on fan cam tech talk?
[01:35:37] Oh my God.
[01:35:48] That is incredible.
[01:35:51] So some people are following it.
[01:35:54] That is hilarious.
[01:35:56] Also Aura picks on the sideline while she's saying like he's got, okay.
[01:36:04] Well, that is, that's some, um, okay, now, I mean, we take those, we take those, we take
[01:36:16] those. I don't agree with the son piker, but he's got a lot of followers as Debbie Dingle.
[01:36:22] So yeah, look, look, um, what can I say?
[01:36:31] Can I say, I mean, I'll take it. We take those. We win those. That's fine. Whichever any means possible.
[01:36:45] Okay. Um, yeah, I just, but like even her response, because like that speech I delivered at Ann Arbor
[01:36:55] wasn't radical at all. And she was there and she heard me talk. So I find it very odd like that.
[01:37:02] I guess she's referencing like all the comments that are in the, uh, in the ecosystem at this
[01:37:08] point that is associated with me that will be following me everywhere I go for the rest of
[01:37:12] my life. I guess those are the comments that she's talking about where she says, like, I don't agree
[01:37:17] with everything he says. Um, I guess that's what it is, right? Like that's what she's referencing.
[01:37:24] I suspect.
[01:37:38] This continued demonization of APEC. APEC is Jewish Americans, Americans who are choosing
[01:37:45] to participate in politics. And let's be honest, they're just using it as a youth.
[01:37:49] Yeah, APEC is so done, dude. It's fucking so done. It's never been more done than it
[01:37:54] is to say the Jews. I mean, that's what they're doing. And I think it's a-
[01:37:58] My center of Sanders is Jewish, so-
[01:38:00] Okay, but that doesn't absolve him of demonizing other Americans who simply want to participate
[01:38:06] in American politics.
[01:38:07] So, Sotchi, I mean, do you think that that's the right, a defensible strategy to say, we
[01:38:13] are a big tent, and if you don't want certain people in it, you can get out, but everybody
[01:38:17] else can stand?
[01:38:19] Listen, I think that ultimately the voters will decide here, and I think when it comes
[01:38:23] to APAC, I think the reason why that was an effective strategy for Al-Sayed, and we'll
[01:38:28] see tonight if he actually wins, is because there was $30 million that was being spent
[01:38:32] in this race.
[01:38:33] And part of it is that his message was that this race shouldn't be bought.
[01:38:37] I think that at the end of the day, you're going to see that in politics throughout the
[01:38:41] country.
[01:38:42] This is an anti-establishment year.
[01:38:45] It is cool to be an outsider, whether you're a Republican or whether you're a Democrat.
[01:38:49] Look at what Donald Trump has done in the Republican Party.
[01:38:51] You have cornered.
[01:38:52] of mass, you have others who were defeated because Donald Trump primaryed those people.
[01:38:58] And so you're seeing the same thing happen on the Democratic side where people want fighters.
[01:39:02] They want people who are going to stand up for working families.
[01:39:04] Now at the end of the day, these are going to be fights about who can work harder for
[01:39:09] the American people.
[01:39:10] And if someone doesn't want to be part of the Democratic Party, they don't have to be
[01:39:13] part of the Democratic Party.
[01:39:14] I will say that a lot of the views that are happening and that are, that I'll say it stands
[01:39:18] for what he has been saying, those views would not resonate with people in Texas.
[01:39:22] I think if you were to ask in my home state of Texas, anything about socialism or DSA
[01:39:27] or any of these things, not one voter would understand what you're saying.
[01:39:30] So I do think that every state is different in this sense.
[01:39:34] People talk about this big temp part.
[01:39:35] I agree.
[01:39:37] What's really funny about this stuff, first of all, undermining voters and treating them
[01:39:41] like they're stupid, I hate that.
[01:39:44] Plenty of people in Texas will understand socialism, many of which will even have a
[01:39:47] favorable opinion of it.
[01:39:49] We already know because it's been pulled.
[01:39:51] The part that I do agree with is, yes, of course you have to message to your audience, right?
[01:39:58] A lot of people have developed this opinion of me, especially when it comes to elections,
[01:40:02] that I'm like this, this like, anti-electoralist, I hate elections, I oppose them, I don't want
[01:40:07] people to vote, and I want the Democratic Party to fall apart, or I only care about like defeating
[01:40:12] Democrats, I don't care about defeating Republicans. They have deluded themselves into believing this
[01:40:17] false narrative. First and foremost, my enemy will always be fascists. It will always be the
[01:40:24] reactionaries. And as far as my enmity towards the Democrats, it stems from their closeness
[01:40:33] and their capitulation, and sometimes their outright collaboration with the American
[01:40:38] fascist movement with Trumpism. Okay, that's it. I oppose Mike Rogers a million times more than I
[01:40:46] oppose Haley Stevens, and I oppose Haley Stevens quite a bit due to her association with APAC,
[01:40:53] due to her position on Israel. Again, I am consistent on this, okay? Talking heads are
[01:41:01] all saying you refuse to vote in 2024 at their main point against you, which is not true.
[01:41:06] But none of the things that they're saying about me are true, right? None of the things
[01:41:11] that they're saying about me are true. So it's up to you to lean into the lies and give it credence
[01:41:23] or understand that they are either misinformed, misguided or deliberately lying. That's it.
[01:41:31] I think it is a matter of the enthusiasm is where where are the fighters whether it's
[01:41:40] Democrats or Republicans it's not about party labels anymore and we have to get over that
[01:41:45] as a country people do not like the labels I guess I think people are looking at this
[01:41:49] race totally wrong first of all Hasan Packer is not the candidate I do side of this and
[01:41:55] Donald Trump has associated himself and many Republicans have associated themselves with
[01:41:58] questionable people, but those people aren't the candidate.
[01:42:01] Donald Trump is the questionable person. See, this is the other side of the story.
[01:42:06] Donald Trump is the questionable person. Look, it's not an accident or a secret that there are some
[01:42:14] in the media that treat certain individuals as unbelievably toxic.
[01:42:21] Regardless of what those individuals' personal point of view is, regardless of what their track
[01:42:26] record looks like. Edhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib. And now, myself. In the past, it was Linda
[01:42:33] Sarsour for those of you who don't know. Linda Sarsour is like the OG, right? That's it. These
[01:42:46] are people who get disparaged. Now, even someone who's running for office, who obviously needs
[01:42:53] and achieves a shit ton of name ID, name recognition, like Linda, or not Linda, sorry, like Rashida
[01:43:01] Tlaib and like Ihan Omar.
[01:43:05] I have a very unique position in this because I am a media platform on my own, okay?
[01:43:15] So I have the capacity to use the platform that I have to push back against these false
[01:43:20] narratives.
[01:43:21] don't have that opportunity. For someone like Rashida or someone like Inhan, they have to go
[01:43:26] to sometimes my platform and sometimes others to be able to communicate what their goals are,
[01:43:34] to be able to communicate what their positions are. For me, it's all I do. All I do is yap.
[01:43:42] That's why there's this massive divergence between what the media ecosystem is presenting me as
[01:43:50] and what the truth is, and the truth in this day and age given the diversity of the media landscape is endlessly accessible.
[01:44:10] There's also, yeah, that's a good point too. There's also a disconnect with civility fetishists and established legacy publishers
[01:44:18] With what's aesthetically toxic, salacious, damning points of view, you know, like using hyperbole, using analogies, right, embellishing things of that nature that people consider to be unacceptable.
[01:44:38] With what is actually toxic when it comes to the voters and their voting.
[01:44:42] Voters oftentimes don't care about curses or the way that certain things are perceived, okay?
[01:44:52] And we've seen that time and time again. We've seen that time and time again with Donald Trump.
[01:44:59] Voters don't give a shit. They're actually a lot more pragmatic than you would think they are.
[01:45:06] I mean, after all, the evangelical base, for example, understands that Donald Trump is
[01:45:11] not a particularly pious man, and yet they're pretty open about it when they, when you,
[01:45:18] when you ask them directly, like, why are you voting for this guy?
[01:45:21] They go, well, he's gonna carry out this agenda that I care about, an agenda of white supremacy,
[01:45:26] for sure.
[01:45:27] But that's still a policy.
[01:45:29] It's a policy that I oppose.
[01:45:31] It's an ideology that I oppose.
[01:45:32] But it's one that they obviously care about, okay?
[01:45:38] They see him as an imperfect vessel.
[01:45:44] And then sometimes they say he's Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, but that's besides the
[01:45:48] point.
[01:45:49] Even if we accepted that, what you had said, unacceptable things, which you haven't, it
[01:45:52] always bothers me to no end that this is true to be on the pale while Scott Jennings is sitting
[01:45:55] right there.
[01:45:56] He has said stuff that is murderous, hateful, bigoted, Trump said Somalis are roving bands
[01:46:00] who hunt white people.
[01:46:02] Even if we took America deserved a face value with none of the nuance, it will still pale
[01:46:06] in comparison to anything they said.
[01:46:08] Yes, exactly, exactly.
[01:46:13] JD Vance went on television and admitted that he was lying about Haitian migrants eating
[01:46:21] cats and dogs.
[01:46:24] And then they won that election.
[01:46:28] If we were to pull up the laundry list, what did I hear correctly that this guy likes what
[01:46:36] the fuck is a shit porn and teenager?
[01:46:39] What are you saying?
[01:46:44] If we were to look at the laundry list of things that people have said, it doesn't even
[01:46:51] come close.
[01:46:53] Okay, it doesn't even come close.
[01:46:58] So my perspective on this is very clear.
[01:47:02] It is a liability to abide by a false standard that your opposition doesn't abide by.
[01:47:11] There's obviously limits to this.
[01:47:13] Okay.
[01:47:14] I'm not saying we should have Max Miller's on our side, which I will be getting to in
[01:47:18] a little bit.
[01:47:19] I'm going to talk about that too.
[01:47:23] Like if only one side is trying to present a false standard that the opposition doesn't abide by,
[01:47:30] then the opposition can always use that against you.
[01:47:35] It's that simple. So don't give them a weapon to wield against us.
[01:47:46] Yeah. Matthew Chapman says, MAGA is just reflexively attacking anyone with a Middle Eastern
[01:47:51] Sounding name now between this and Maga voters in Michigan rejecting Trump endorsed Amir Hassan in favor of some dude who dropped out of the race
[01:47:59] weeks ago just insanely bleak
[01:48:06] Donald Trump endorsed this guy he's not Muslim by the way
[01:48:10] But his name is Amir Hassan
[01:48:13] Trump had endorsed them his primary opposition had actually dropped out of the race weeks ago
[01:48:21] Republicans, but he was still on the ballot. Republicans voted for the guy who had dropped out over
[01:48:30] Republicans voted for the guy who dropped out over Amir Hassan. I think we know why
[01:48:42] They voted for the guy
[01:48:45] With the white name over the guy with the Muslim sounding name
[01:48:51] That's all it took.
[01:48:57] Thomas J. Smith won and it wasn't even closed.
[01:49:01] Thomas J. Smith had dropped out.
[01:49:03] Amir Hasan was the one that actually was the Trump endorsed candidate.
[01:49:09] This is a Trump plus two district and Smith who has suspended his campaign is going to
[01:49:13] win the primary against the Trump endorsed candidate.
[01:49:16] Dave Weigel says, that's it folks.
[01:49:18] We're getting one, a suspended campaign winning the nomination.
[01:49:20] Trump endorsed candidate losing in three New York Times not having a headshot for the winner.
[01:49:30] I wonder. I'm not even kidding. I wonder if there were people because this is a Republican primary.
[01:49:37] I wonder if there are people who are like Hassan. You mean that not 11 guy who did not 11. I'm not
[01:49:43] voting for that. I'm not voting for that terrorist. I wonder if there was at least like one voter
[01:49:49] in that primary who voted for Thomas Smith out of 2,000 or 25,500 voters, there must be like a couple,
[01:49:57] right? There has to be a couple who are at least like 10.
[01:50:07] Because here's the thing, while most voters don't give a shit about me, there are a group of voters
[01:50:12] who at the mere mention of the name Hassan probably shutter now, okay? And those are
[01:50:17] 75 year old Fox news boomers.
[01:50:25] But yeah, here it is.
[01:50:26] I mean, look, Lombardo.
[01:50:28] So I know pastor types spoke about officer Abdel Nabi a few moments ago.
[01:50:36] No, no, we're not booing.
[01:50:37] We're not booing him.
[01:50:39] He's the officer that passed away here recently.
[01:50:42] So, and I asked.
[01:50:46] Yeah.
[01:50:46] Why do you think they were doing that? Why do you think they were booing an officer Abdul Nabi?
[01:50:51] Because his name sounds Muslim. That's it. These guys are cattle. They're incredibly racist cattle.
[01:51:00] That's the only thing, the only thing that fucking motivates them.
[01:51:16] Yeah, I'll say it. I want to make healthcare groceries and gas more affordable, get rid
[01:51:33] of data centers, remove corporate money from politics and tax the rich Republicans. I'll
[01:51:37] say it is Muslim and you want to know some, it will work. It's going to work on a lot
[01:51:42] of people. It's just not going to be enough to win. Okay? So make no mistake. I am not,
[01:51:50] I am not living in La La Land where I think like being a Muslim candidate is going to be a hurdle.
[01:51:59] Just my theory of change means hurdles, my theory of change and my belief system is,
[01:52:07] and I repeat this all the time. I talked about it with Kamala Harris as well,
[01:52:11] her being a black woman from California was a hurdle.
[01:52:16] It's silly to act as though that's not a hurdle, right?
[01:52:20] But my fear of change is it's a hurdle that you can climb.
[01:52:24] It's a hurdle that you can clear.
[01:52:27] It just makes things more difficult, but it doesn't matter.
[01:52:33] Okay?
[01:52:35] It's that simple.
[01:52:38] Hurdles are meant to be cleared.
[01:52:47] And Abdul cleared it. He cleared it last night, and he will clear it in the general.
[01:52:53] So, obviously, we're going to talk about expenditures as well.
[01:52:57] You have to be an extraordinary candidate running a strong campaign to overcome a 10-to-1 spending disadvantage,
[01:53:02] 62 million against in a high-profile race like this.
[01:53:05] Everyone's trying to spin this result as anything short of that is lying.
[01:53:08] This isn't disappointing at all just because a bunch of polling, just because a bunch of polling discourse, it's crazy.
[01:53:15] Even being competitive against that kind of headwind is not supposed to be possible unless
[01:53:19] without even touching the endorsement by Whitmer, Peters, and Clyburn outspent 10 to 1.
[01:53:25] Mamdani was outspent 3 to 1.
[01:53:28] Okay, that's it. The only reason why
[01:53:31] The only reason why people are saying like this is a disappointment, this sucks, is because of the standard that was set by really bad polls.
[01:53:41] And perhaps we will get a better understanding of why the polls got us so wrong, and perhaps we got it. Perhaps it's because maybe there was additional turnout from Republicans.
[01:53:53] And the polls were obviously not calculating that there would be a decent amount of Republicans that will go out in the open primary and vote for
[01:54:03] the the Democrat that they want to oppose in the general
[01:54:08] That Democrat being Haley Stevens
[01:54:12] Okay
[01:54:17] Because if there is
[01:54:19] Like an additional 10 points they were able to secure from all of the different districts
[01:54:26] With Republicans coming out in droves, which is unlikely for the record
[01:54:33] Okay, when will you stop glazing in Dubai landlord because it's a Democrat what happened a democratic socialism?
[01:54:38] Never I love Dubai chocolate and I love I hope he buys more properties. What do you want me to do man?
[01:54:43] It's his father-in-law
[01:54:45] His father-in-law owns properties and put his wife's name on the fucking deed
[01:54:51] How does that have anything to do with who he is and what he's advocating for?
[01:54:59] Like what are we doing? Do you think there is like a
[01:55:03] intergenerational
[01:55:04] Ideological predispositions is that what you think I mean he is not even a socialist you can attack me on that if you want
[01:55:11] Neither is my father
[01:55:15] You know, neither are my grandparents.
[01:55:26] What kind of argument is this?
[01:55:30] That's a clipper. Don't give them attention. Yeah, no, it's a
[01:55:36] he got he got his positions from his father alone. They were passed down
[01:55:39] like the property that that that he put in Abdul's wife's name.
[01:55:48] But yeah, Patrick Rafini, pollster at echelon insights says controlling for 2024, the results
[01:56:10] kind of suggest Stevens was buoyed by crossover Republican votes, especially in metro Detroit,
[01:56:14] where the primary composition swung 30 points towards these.
[01:56:18] There's a large Jewish population in Oakland County and a large black population.
[01:56:23] I'd look there before looking at a GOP crossover.
[01:56:25] McComb is interesting as Oakland is Stevens' home base.
[01:56:30] So there were some very interesting, unpredictable results that came out of this.
[01:56:35] Like for example, Abdul actually outperformed expectations in Haley Stevens' county
[01:56:40] and a lot of Gresham Whitmer areas as well.
[01:56:43] Well, whereas Hailey Stevens actually overperformed in rural areas now, is that because Gresham
[01:56:50] Whitmer and her endorsement carried a lot of weight in those areas?
[01:56:55] Or was it because in those small towns and rural districts, you had a bunch of right-wingers
[01:57:01] that had never voted or independents that are leaning right, for example, former Trump
[01:57:06] voters that went out and voted for Hailey Stevens, either due to tactical voting or
[01:57:11] because they were frustrated with Donald Trump, for sure, and decided like they want to vote
[01:57:17] for Hailey Stevens in the general. That could be a big thing.
[01:57:30] There was a Republican governor primary, no. I don't think these Republicans are motivated
[01:57:34] enough to vote for the primary would bother trying to get a moderate Dem. I just, we'll
[01:57:42] see. These people aren't tactical about anything I'm from there. Yes, we have an open primary.
[01:57:56] The ballot had two columns with Dems and reps, and the reps didn't have a big contest of
[01:58:00] a primary at all. So I believe some of them did at the very least. Yeah, that could be
[01:58:04] the case.
[01:58:16] Here is the real truque, though.
[01:58:18] Evan Hill, open source and visual forensics and investigations of Washington Post, delivers,
[01:58:24] I think, the truque of all truques.
[01:58:27] Blue collar labor has long been fetishized as the spiritual base of both parties, even
[01:58:31] factory work was long ago overtaken by email jobs. But it does feel like the selection cycle might
[01:58:36] finally allow left-wing riveter iconography to fade away and be replaced by something closer to
[01:58:42] reality, the great lefty millennial t-shirt class spanning PMC, keyboard warriors, unionized service
[01:58:47] and government work, and the precariat. Which I responded with, it's funny because the moderates
[01:58:52] are the party of non-college-educated union retirees, whereas the college-educated downwardly
[01:58:57] mobile folks are the current existing working class and the DC consultants constantly claim
[01:59:02] the older retirees are the true working class. Here's a way that a lot of people interpret
[01:59:08] these results over and over again that I've noticed that I find very frustrating. They
[01:59:13] always say, look at these poor districts, they're going to the moderates. They did this without
[01:59:17] the down as by out. They did this in the Abdul race, right? They did it over and over again.
[01:59:22] Now, what's really interesting about this is that it's actually not the reality. It's
[01:59:30] this fantasy that we as Americans have of what it means to be working class in the United
[01:59:36] States of America. One example that I always used to use is one that is commonly deployed
[01:59:41] by the Republicans, coal miners. Donald Trump made coal miners a major issue in 2016, and
[01:59:51] even harken back to it in 2020. Okay. The idea of blue collar labor coal miners, the number of
[02:00:00] coal miners, the number, the total number of coal miners in this country is 55,000.
[02:00:09] That is the number of Arby's workers in like three states. Okay.
[02:00:16] Okay. What do you think is a better representation of the working class in modern American society?
[02:00:23] Coal miners? Or people who work at fucking Arby's?
[02:00:32] It is a cartoon. It is a pure fantasy. It's nostalgia driven. It's not driven by the actual analytics.
[02:00:44] Okay
[02:00:46] That is the reality
[02:00:48] We have more meat miners at Arby's then coal miners in West Virginia
[02:00:55] Okay
[02:00:59] It is this
[02:01:00] Romanticized understanding of blue collar hard hat wearing workers when the modern
[02:01:06] Contemporary labor force in the United States of America is
[02:01:09] Is increasingly people who sit at a fucking desk or people who sit behind the counter
[02:01:15] That's the current downwardly mobile millennial over-educated
[02:01:21] College education having labor force that is what the current labor force looks like so DSA is actually still very much
[02:01:29] at the heart of that movement
[02:01:35] Stand behind the counter sorry did I say?
[02:01:37] Yeah, not sit behind a counter, stand behind a counter.
[02:01:42] Evan Hill says, education polarization is throwing people for a loop because four-year
[02:01:50] college attainment increased like 20% during our lifetime, so millennials came of age during
[02:01:53] a period in which college became standard for more than a third of the adult population,
[02:01:57] and perception has been slow to catch up, yeah.
[02:02:05] Steinbauer says, not to be a dick about this, but this was literally the base of the student
[02:02:09] debt research I was doing at Democratic-aligned economic policy think tanks, CAP and Washington
[02:02:14] Center for Equitable Growth in 2015 and 2016, the work that got me fired.
[02:02:20] Yeah, this is why student loan debt relief is one of the most powerful tools to galvanize
[02:02:29] the workforce to come out and vote for you in droves, okay?
[02:02:34] These are true, these are true after truths.
[02:02:38] These are truth nukes.
[02:02:41] What we perceive as this fantasy narrative, you know, working class individuals and what
[02:02:48] we understand it is very different than the reality.
[02:02:52] That's why a lot of the frustration, at least from my end comes from the narrative that
[02:02:57] is presented by, near attended, by all of these right wing Democratic Party consultants
[02:03:05] and right wingers in the Republican Party as well.
[02:03:09] They will point to the electoral performance of the likes of Haley Stevens and they'll
[02:03:15] say these are black neighborhoods.
[02:03:17] Black neighborhoods went out in droves for Haley Stevens.
[02:03:20] But what they fail to, what they fail to register often by design is that the non-college educational
[02:03:29] attainment of the black voting block that went for Haley Stevens has nothing to do with
[02:03:41] their current status in the labor force.
[02:03:45] As a matter of fact, it's probably more likely that they have a higher degree of wealth,
[02:03:50] okay?
[02:03:52] Because they are more likely to be homeowners than the younger black voters, okay?
[02:03:58] Which obviously swung to Abdul.
[02:04:02] And less likely to be in the labor force in general.
[02:04:06] That's it.
[02:04:08] That is the interesting predicament here.
[02:04:10] the way that we perceive the moderates or the true working class is actually totally wrong.
[02:04:25] It's totally wrong. It's boomers. Boomers are the ones that voted for Hailey Stevens broadly,
[02:04:34] right? And boomers love to vote. They love to vote in the primaries. They love to vote in the general.
[02:04:40] And they hate the Republican Party and they will always vote against the Republican Party, especially black boomers are the most reliable voting block for the Democrats, right?
[02:04:49] Those guys are not gonna, you know, sit this one out. They're gonna vote for Abdul Al Sayed. They don't want Mike Rogers.
[02:04:56] But what you have to remember is, and I hate to say this because, you know, people love to, you know, live in this fantasy land.
[02:05:05] But those guys are retirees.
[02:05:08] Okay?
[02:05:10] The Black Boomer voting block is oftentimes uses a talking point to say this is the true working class.
[02:05:19] And perhaps 30 years ago they were. They were the Union labor force, the backbone of the UAW pre-NAFTA, 100%.
[02:05:29] Here's another truth, Nuke, for you. Many people don't realize that the unionized labor force in this country,
[02:05:37] The unionized labor force in this country is very diverse, not white, in the way that it's also fantasized about.
[02:05:44] As a matter of fact, there's a higher degree of labor union participation in the black working force in this country than the white labor force.
[02:06:00] Black people have a higher union density and higher union participation.
[02:06:07] But that's the thing, yeah, black women make up a large percentage of the unionized labor pool today. Yeah, nurses, teachers, healthcare sector jobs.
[02:06:26] jobs. People don't realize that. So our understanding of like college educated, overly educated white
[02:06:42] voters is totally silly. These are downwardly mobile college educated millennials who are
[02:06:50] absolutely at the heart, at the epicenter of the working class right now. Okay? They are the
[02:06:58] American labor force. So of course, they are voting alongside their class interests.
[02:07:08] They are far more representative of the labor force than, you know, former labor union,
[02:07:16] a non-college degree having white and black boomers who are now retired and are more likely
[02:07:26] to own a home. So they have a little bit of equity, a lot more equity than the, or a lot
[02:07:31] higher likelihood to have some equity, some stake in the current economy than the younger
[02:07:38] college educated white and black voters. That's it. Do you understand? This is something
[02:07:58] that people perceive in the worst way possible.
[02:08:03] They're just wrong.
[02:08:05] They're totally wrong.
[02:08:11] So, with that knowledge,
[02:08:15] now that you're equipped with that,
[02:08:17] you can interpret the results a lot better, okay?
[02:08:22] You can actually figure out
[02:08:25] What part of the working class is actually voting for who?
[02:08:32] But let's get to some takes.
[02:08:35] We have a major call to make on this.
[02:08:39] Fox News alert on a major race out of Michigan that could reset the race for November and the balance of power in the U.S. Senate.
[02:08:49] Abdul El Sayed, age 41, ran for governor eight years ago.
[02:08:54] Unsuccessful against Gretchen Whitmer.
[02:08:57] This time a winner against Haley Stevens,
[02:09:00] the Associated Press, has made the call.
[02:09:03] And El Sayed now will take his campaign
[02:09:06] head to head with the Republican Mike Rogers in November.
[02:09:09] And that will be one to watch.
[02:09:12] Wow.
[02:09:13] Dana's out today on Bill Hammer Live here
[02:09:15] in New York City as we roll on.
[02:09:16] But wait, not it?
[02:09:17] No, we have it, Aish.
[02:09:18] we have it is a major shake up i think for establishment democrats who are
[02:09:23] backing hailey stevens i'm i should have seen
[02:09:25] the other question is
[02:09:27] how do the polls get it so wrong this guy was up by double digits bill and now
[02:09:32] we're looking at a one point lead
[02:09:35] winning this primary by just one point
[02:09:38] and is this a big way wake up call
[02:09:41] uh... that l say it needs to be more compromising perhaps from now on as he
[02:09:45] Like, why is the commentary, I'm sorry, but does it not alert you at all? Does it not alarm you
[02:09:53] at all that the commentary from Fox News is identical to CNN? This is what near attendant is saying.
[02:10:00] Do you think these guys care about our movement? Do you think these guys are our opposition,
[02:10:06] or do you think they're giving, doing us a favor? Do you think they're doing us a favor
[02:10:11] and telling us what Abdul should do to win. And if you don't believe that, if you don't
[02:10:20] believe that at all, why would you hear the exact same message coming from a Democrat
[02:10:32] and think, that's it, that's great. He's actually, these guys have our best interests
[02:10:39] of mine. It's very dumb. This is not even unsolicited advice. This is bullshit. This
[02:11:01] is actually the worst advice to give. They're masking it as though it's like sound reliable
[02:11:13] information that they're delivering to their opposition. They're just doing us a solid,
[02:11:17] doing us a favor.
[02:11:22] Just stick to your principles and you will win, okay? Stick to your principles and you will win.
[02:11:28] Here's my advice.
[02:11:30] Abdul Al Sayyed should not compromise on Medicare for all.
[02:11:35] He should not compromise on punishing DTE.
[02:11:38] He should not compromise on the moratorium for data centers.
[02:11:42] He should not compromise on his position on Israel.
[02:11:45] He doesn't have to because none of the positions that he delivered in the primaries were actually all that radical.
[02:11:51] None. They were very popular policies.
[02:11:54] policies. So as long as he maintains his principle stance on these issues,
[02:11:58] he will comfortably win the victory. He will comfortably seize victory.
[02:12:03] Now what should he do that he hasn't done so far?
[02:12:08] Consolidate the base, go to the black neighborhoods,
[02:12:13] go to the rural neighborhoods,
[02:12:15] go to the areas where Haley Stevens overperformed.
[02:12:19] Absolutely.
[02:12:20] He should earn every single vote.
[02:12:25] You will never catch me telling a politician that I'm aligned with to not go out and win
[02:12:32] every single vote.
[02:12:34] It is not the voters' fault.
[02:12:38] I will never do the thing where I say, oh, well, campaigns can't fail.
[02:12:43] They can only be failed by the stupid voters.
[02:12:46] Like they just don't understand it.
[02:12:48] No.
[02:12:49] It is always up to the campaign, it is always up to the candidate to ensure that no matter
[02:12:58] what the odds are, no matter what hurdles they are thrown, that they go out and they
[02:13:03] do the work and they put their policies in front of as many people as possible.
[02:13:10] Even if those voters are bigoted, even if those voters are Islamophobic, you can still
[02:13:14] win them over.
[02:13:16] If they go hell man, hey man, I've never thought that I vote for a man named Abdul on them fucking like it
[02:13:21] But I heard you did 9-11. I heard your al-Qaeda you tell him look man
[02:13:26] That's not the case and I'm pretty sure you probably know a lot of Abdul's. I mean we live in Michigan after all
[02:13:31] Here's the reality. They're saying that about me
[02:13:34] because
[02:13:35] Speak out against Israel. I speak out against the money that we're sending to Israel because I want that money to be spent here in Michigan
[02:13:43] boom
[02:13:44] That's how you win those guys over. You have to do that
[02:13:49] There's no telling people to fuck off. Okay
[02:13:52] There's no telling people to just say, you know, of course, you're gonna vote for me
[02:13:56] What do you want the Republican to win that is not
[02:13:59] That is not a way to secure a victory and I am unbelievably confident that Abdul will do just that because he did just that in the primaries
[02:14:09] Okay, he did that
[02:14:14] Here's the other thing, here's the other thing, Abdul knows that, because his name
[02:14:36] His name is Abdul Rahman Mohammed al-Sayyid.
[02:14:42] He loves this country and he grew up in this country and he was always an overachiever
[02:14:47] in this country with that name.
[02:14:50] So he knows what the hurdles look like.
[02:14:53] This is in some instances, actually in many instances, why these candidates like Zoran
[02:15:02] actually a lot better than an unassuming white boy because they have to be overachievers.
[02:15:12] You have to be exceptional. If your name is Barack Hussein Obama, you have to be exceptional,
[02:15:20] especially if you have the audacity to run for president as a black man whose middle
[02:15:26] name is Hussain. Okay? That's just the reality. And when I say exceptional, I don't, you know,
[02:15:34] I'm not talking about like how he governed, right? I'm not talking about what Obama did
[02:15:39] as president. I'm talking about what it takes to get to that position with that background.
[02:15:49] Okay?
[02:15:53] Yeah, don't make me point to the sign of the candidate that had dropped out with the white
[02:16:02] name defending or the candidate who dropped out with the white name winning the race
[02:16:11] over the candidate with the Muslim name that Donald Trump had endorsed.
[02:16:16] That's how easy it is at times, especially on the Republican Party side.
[02:16:25] Understand?
[02:16:28] Let's continue.
[02:16:29] He does have a lot of independence in that state, a lot of centrists in that state to
[02:16:34] win over if he's going to make it into the general.
[02:16:37] So this is what he campaigned on, Medicare for all, no military aid to Israel, tax the
[02:16:44] Rich, reform ICE, abolish the filibuster in the Senate
[02:16:49] if he wins, and campaign finance reform.
[02:16:52] So we've been watching Michigan, and this is the check mark
[02:16:55] we've been waiting for, for either Stevens or Syed.
[02:16:57] Mallory McMorro dropped out of this race weeks ago.
[02:17:01] She picked up 4% of the vote.
[02:17:03] You see the margin?
[02:17:05] It's one percentage point.
[02:17:06] You just wonder, had she endorsed or not been at all
[02:17:09] or dropped out some time ago,
[02:17:10] and her name did not appear on the ballot,
[02:17:12] maybe this would have been different.
[02:17:13] But here is the case now.
[02:17:15] Hailey Stevens wrote a wave of support on behalf of APAC.
[02:17:19] Upwards of $30 million to take down Syed.
[02:17:24] And Syed has defeated that brushback pitch against him
[02:17:29] in this campaign.
[02:17:30] And we talk about Wayne County.
[02:17:33] She won it by six points.
[02:17:34] That's Detroit.
[02:17:35] That's kind of where she needed to be.
[02:17:37] Up in Oakland County, she won it by almost seven points.
[02:17:40] Pretty impressive where she needed to be.
[02:17:43] Macomb County, up by seven and a half points,
[02:17:45] where she needed to be.
[02:17:46] But Syed was driving up numbers
[02:17:48] in different parts of the state.
[02:17:50] Very good down here in Washington for his campaign,
[02:17:53] almost 25 points in the victory.
[02:17:55] And out here in Grand Rapids,
[02:17:56] a bit of a surprise here in Kent County.
[02:17:58] He won the county by 61 points.
[02:18:02] A lot of smaller colleges in that part of the state.
[02:18:04] And really this is, well, it used to be Gerald Ford country,
[02:18:08] but the demographics have changed in Michigan.
[02:18:11] That's where Ford's presidential library is.
[02:18:13] Been a hotbed for Republicans for a long time
[02:18:16] and nobody knows that better than my guest right now,
[02:18:19] Rhonda McDaniel, former head of the RNC.
[02:18:21] Rhonda, what does this victory mean?
[02:18:24] Not in a blue dot district in New York City,
[02:18:28] but in a purple state of Michigan.
[02:18:31] Oh, I think this is going to energize Republicans.
[02:18:34] Republicans who have been dormant a lot
[02:18:37] in the past few midterms have sat out midterms,
[02:18:40] not paid attention to the midterms and suddenly they are awake and aware of the threat of
[02:18:46] the most dangerous ticket that Democrats have ever put forward.
[02:18:49] Not just with Syed, they have an attorney general nominee, a Soros-backed attorney general
[02:18:56] nominee named Ellie Savit.
[02:18:59] Their Supreme Court nominees are radical.
[02:19:01] They are running on things like putting violent criminals back on the street.
[02:19:04] They have put violent criminals back on the street.
[02:19:07] So the ticket up and down on the Democrat side is very dangerous.
[02:19:11] And I think this might be the shot in the arm Republicans need to engage in a midterm
[02:19:16] where we haven't been engaging in the past two cycles.
[02:19:19] Okay, Ron, I should have mentioned you're from Michigan, so you know, the state very
[02:19:22] well.
[02:19:23] Yeah.
[02:19:24] Ron, think about this right now in the battle for the Senate, okay?
[02:19:26] We've been using this in our power rankings for some time.
[02:19:29] Keep in mind, Democrats right now, they need to flip four seats that Republicans currently
[02:19:33] hold.
[02:19:34] But one of the seats that was leaning Democrat was Michigan.
[02:19:41] And like, how do you look at that right now?
[02:19:44] If this is considered maybe a toss up or even a lean toward Republicans, that makes this
[02:19:50] challenge in Alaska, Iowa, Maine, and Ohio so much more difficult.
[02:19:55] But just take the Michigan case right now, if Mike Rogers were to take that seat from
[02:20:01] the Democrats.
[02:20:04] It's not lost on me that the Fox news commentary is identical chat. It is identical. Put it
[02:20:15] side by side with CNN, have a bunch of like centers think think tank assholes who've like
[02:20:21] worked on the Joe Biden campaign or whatever. And they're saying the exact same thing. Oh,
[02:20:27] don't you think Abdul's race is far too radical for Michigan? It's going to have actual consequences
[02:20:33] in Texas and all these other races, they're saying the exact same thing. They need to
[02:20:37] go elsewhere in order to take control of the Senate. It seems at the moment that it's
[02:20:42] a much more difficult climb. How do you see it?
[02:20:45] I absolutely agree. I mean, Chuck Schumer and the Democrat establishment, they were
[02:20:49] all in for Hailey Stevens. She spent 60 million on TV. Sayed spent 6 million on TV and they
[02:20:55] wanted her to be their nominee because this disrupts their path to the Senate. And one
[02:21:02] One other thing, Bill, Michigan's a straight party ticket state, so you go vote R at the
[02:21:06] top of the ticket, one of eight that still employs this.
[02:21:10] This helps us with the House, too, in districts like Tom Barrett, where they elected a DSA
[02:21:15] candidate against him last night.
[02:21:18] So this is going to help us across the board, not just in Michigan, but nationwide for prospects
[02:21:23] for Republicans in these midterms.
[02:21:25] Mike Rogers was on the air about two and a half hours ago.
[02:21:28] Now, this is what his race was against Alissa Slotkin.
[02:21:31] lost but only lost by 0.3 percentage points. It was that close. And, Rana, many people
[02:21:36] are saying that the reason it was that close is because of what Donald Trump did all over
[02:21:41] in these rural areas in the upper peninsula. Do you think Mike Rogers runs this well in
[02:21:47] a race with Donald Trump's name not on the ballot?
[02:21:51] When Donald Trump's on the ballot, more Michiganders turned out. It's just a fact. That's why it's
[02:21:55] harder in the midterms. That being said, Mike had a competitive...
[02:22:00] You're kind of wrong. Fox mentioned APEC, but CNN obscured the money. Fox is almost
[02:22:03] better. That's crazy.
[02:22:05] The primary challenge last time he didn't, the competitive primary challenge has been
[02:22:09] on the Dem side this time in August.
[02:22:11] Yeah. Which is precisely the reason why there's a lot of negative favorability for Abdul right
[02:22:16] now and none for Mike Rogers, because Mike Rogers went through the primary process with
[02:22:22] no, no attack ads whatsoever. So the, the current standing on the polls is going to
[02:22:29] flip dramatically because here's what the Democrats are going to do, one. And I'm very
[02:22:36] glad that they did this. They are proving me wrong a little bit. I will admit that,
[02:22:40] okay? Democrats are far more locked in than I gave them credit. So I will apologize to
[02:22:48] the centrist Democratic forces in the party. I was wrong. You actually do care about defeating
[02:22:54] Republicans, at least for the time being, my mistake. Thank you. Okay. Kamala Harris endorsement
[02:23:04] immediately pulling her, her email list to fundraise for Abdulla's ad. Everyone is coalescing
[02:23:13] around him. Chuck Schumer came out and said, that's my guy. Cheers to Angela Brand. That's
[02:23:18] my guy. They did that. And I'm glad that they did. I was very worried. I was very, very
[02:23:27] worried that the centrist Democrat forces would probably lean into the, the, the negative,
[02:23:39] the negative sentiment around Abdul al-Sahed. They didn't even wait for it. Okay. Yeah. Like
[02:23:45] I thought Haley Stevens especially would have been so like Israel first that she might have actually waited to endorse or never
[02:23:53] Endorsed or something like that. No
[02:23:56] Sammy is correct. Stevens is a damn aparachic
[02:23:58] She obviously wouldn't endorse Rogers or sit it out
[02:24:01] My real worries of Stevens is rhetoric about Abdul al-say caused like two to five percent of her voters to sit it out
[02:24:05] Michigan is a closed state the margins count
[02:24:07] Drew, I'm not owned is an annoying lib, but is this is a funny observation. Pretty funny
[02:24:15] that this was roughly one trillion times more vitriolic than Texas. And she immediately
[02:24:19] endorses. Don't give these assholes credit for bare minimum. No, no, no, no, no, no.
[02:24:26] Look, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna keep it a buck 50. Oh, that's, that's crazy. Look, look,
[02:24:31] This is real talk, real talk time. Okay. I was, and I, and I brought this up. I brought
[02:24:39] this up in the primaries. I was really worried that the, the centrist forces in the party
[02:24:43] were going to try to, to, to deliver a message that progressive left flank Bernie Kratts style
[02:24:50] candidates can't win in swing districts. And in order to deliver that message, they were
[02:24:54] going to tank the race. That was my real fear. And that fear still very much remains for
[02:24:59] APAC, because here's what APAC is going to do. APAC already understands this, this territory.
[02:25:06] They were in it. They were heavily involved. I worry that APAC is going to try to depress
[02:25:13] a black voter turnout. Let's just openly talk about it. Okay. I worry that APAC's number
[02:25:22] one weapon to wield in the general election will be to spam unbelievable amounts of negative
[02:25:29] attack ads in black districts to try to stop black voters from turning out for Abdul El
[02:25:35] Sayed. Now, of course, we have a weapon on our side. His name is Barack Hussein Obama.
[02:25:42] And I do predict maybe I'm wrong, but Barack Obama will come out and endorse Abdul El Sayed
[02:25:50] to the victory and closer to the point of a victory and it will deliver a decisive blow.
[02:25:57] That's what I think is going to end up happening. But there is still absolutely an opportunity here
[02:26:03] for APAC. APAC will probably spend, I mean APAC will probably spend like a close to 100
[02:26:08] million potentially or a total, the total expenditure in this race. If they're willing to
[02:26:14] fight for it will be 100 million, perhaps even higher than that, especially considering that
[02:26:19] that the primaries were around 64 million. Okay? APAC spent 34 million in the primary.
[02:26:29] They would easily double that in the general for my grojers. And how they spend that matters.
[02:26:37] What they will try to do, if I'm APAC, what I would try to do is depress voter turnout
[02:26:43] in districts that Haley overperformed. Rural voters, like more, maybe a little bit more
[02:26:50] skutish about a skittish, a little bit more worried about Abdulla al-Sayed, really beef
[02:26:57] up the Islamophobia there. And then also try to do everything in my power to depress black
[02:27:03] voter turnout, which again, probably not going to happen. It's not going to be effective,
[02:27:08] I think that's what they will try to do. Okay.
[02:27:23] Don't give them tips, guys.
[02:27:27] Are you crazy?
[02:27:28] You think APEC doesn't already know what they can possibly do?
[02:27:32] APAC is already about to go after Abdul. Okay, they already, they already know where to spend
[02:27:45] and how to spend. Now, do you really think they'll just spam the terrorism button and
[02:27:50] win potentially, potentially. I don't think it'll be that successful, though, especially
[02:28:14] because these boomers that voted for Haley Stevens voted for Haley Stevens not because
[02:28:25] they particularly loved Haley Stevens, but they are the most reliable voters and the
[02:28:30] most conservative voters, but not conservative on policy.
[02:28:34] as in like what they are worried would lead to a potential Republican victory. Okay, they're
[02:28:45] not conservative on the policy front. They don't really care about that as much as they care about
[02:28:49] electability. Okay. So I suspect that that ad spend is going to lead to limited success.
[02:29:05] Yes, they are risk averse. Okay. They're risk averse voters.
[02:29:13] That's a better way to put it. Not conservative.
[02:29:16] Adam Johnson says, the amount of money APAC is going to spend on Rodgers is going to break
[02:29:21] records. It's going to be increasingly unhinged races and sleazy. And it's going to put in
[02:29:26] stark relief why it's so obscene. Elite Dems refuse to denounce and indeed heavily rely on
[02:29:30] a GOP smear operation. Izzy says, Isaiah Green, former flag for Elan Omar Keith Ellison,
[02:29:38] says, APAC is going to spend a billion dollars on Mike Rodgers. And I think the Democratic
[02:29:41] Party leadership is ultimately going to have to choose between Israel and winning the Senate.
[02:29:46] So far, so good. That was my fear. So far, the Democrats have absolutely outperformed my expectations.
[02:29:55] Immediate consolidation behind the winner and immediate endorsements came in flying for Abdul El Sayed.
[02:30:02] So far, so good. Actually pretty great. The only people who are chirping on the sidelines are some of the consultants that are really fucking annoyed with me.
[02:30:11] me, and they just, you know, refuse to be graceful losers in this regard and lock in
[02:30:19] and hopefully, you know, push to defeat Mike Rogers. If they can maybe squeeze out like
[02:30:27] one scalp in this process, mine, then great. That's the best it's going to, that's the
[02:30:33] best it's going to get for them, right? That's what some of these consultants are working
[02:30:37] to do. But ultimately, the overwhelming majority of the centrist forces of power in this party,
[02:30:44] the establishment Democrats, very quickly consolidated support. So that's great.
[02:30:49] I think there's a stink in the air. Opportunists are starting to worry that Israel's support
[02:30:53] is untenable. If they couldn't win Michigan's swing state with 70 million, that money is
[02:30:57] useless. It was still pretty meaningful. The overperformance of Hayley Stevens showed
[02:31:05] that it was still a meaningful amount of money. Dan Pfeiffer, my biggest concern prior to
[02:31:15] this morning was outside winning with grace and the party reuniting and I'm pleased to
[02:31:18] see that Haley Gresham Whitmer and Mallor Mcmorrow all doing exactly what needs to be done.
[02:31:23] Dan Pfeiffer says the Michigan primaries finally over, even though the margin was very close
[02:31:26] effect, the obelisade overcame 60 million in Super PAC ads and the entire demo establishment
[02:31:29] is an incredible feat, but he has a lot of work to do. Here are some thoughts on what
[02:31:32] he has to do. Let me start by saying that there's no question in my mind that I'll
[02:31:35] I'll say it can win and it's probably a slight favorite to do so at this moment,
[02:31:38] but there's still, there is risk and work to do.
[02:31:42] I'll say I lost black voters big time to Stevens and there's no path to figure
[02:31:45] without winning it, about 90% of those voters and generating high turnout,
[02:31:48] building relationships in that community.
[02:31:49] I understand the resistance to his candidacy must be a top priority.
[02:31:52] The electorate in November is going to be older, less college educated and more
[02:31:56] moderate. I'll say that is going to need to become more broadly appealing on some
[02:31:59] issues. He's going to need to meet the electorate halfway or find opportunities.
[02:32:02] that he's not a doctrinaire leftist. I don't fully agree with that. I don't think these guys are as
[02:32:07] policy driven as they are driven by the risk of a Republican winning that seat, especially black voters.
[02:32:20] I don't think he needs to, I don't think he needs to change his policy platform because his policy
[02:32:25] platform is objectively popular amongst all of the base and even amongst independents,
[02:32:31] especially Israel, especially Israel. I think he just needs to do the Zaron method, which is
[02:32:40] lean into the black political establishment in Michigan. Hug and kiss them, get in there,
[02:32:48] you know, do the work. Glad handling, shaking hands, saying, look, we're gonna bring a lot of
[02:32:55] of money to this district, uh, bringing a lot of money to your district. That's it.
[02:33:02] That, because, because that's it. That, that is what I think played a far more significant role
[02:33:07] in Haley Stevens's, uh, margins than anything else that, and of course the ad spend.
[02:33:16] He also has a major ally on his side. His name is Donovan McKinney. Donovan is fantastic.
[02:33:25] Donovan is beloved by all, not only in his district, but in the state legislature,
[02:33:30] where he was prior to his victory last night over Sretanadar. Donovan's victory is huge.
[02:33:39] Donovan's victory is huge for black politics in the state of Michigan, because Detroit,
[02:33:45] the district that Donovan is now going to oversee, is a black district.
[02:33:50] And the fact that it was occupied by Sri Thanadar, who was objectively awful, and on top of that, not black, that matters.
[02:33:59] Representational politics absolutely matters. So that was huge.
[02:34:05] Now, of course, you'll never hear that from the near attendance of the world who like to present me as this, like, out-of-touch white guy or whatever,
[02:34:11] when I have, um, at this point flipped a bunch of districts, uh,
[02:34:17] from the hands of, of white Democrats into the hands of young black Democrats. Ironically enough,
[02:34:23] we have done that. Oliver Larkin being the only white boy, only quirked up white boy that I've
[02:34:30] worked with this cycle so far, literally. And I guess, I mean, I can't even say, well, Lawrence,
[02:34:36] because like I endorsed them but I didn't really do anything with them.
[02:34:41] But yeah, that's huge. That's big.
[02:34:44] So now they've got to unite and try and mobilize and let's see if these Haley Stevens voters
[02:35:11] come out for El Sayed. It has expanded the Republican map on who we can reach. I know,
[02:35:16] Bill, even in this primary, Republicans were crossing over to vote for Haley Stevens. They
[02:35:21] were that afraid of El Sayed. I was knocking doors over the weekend in high-prepensity Republican
[02:35:27] areas, and they were skipping the Republican primary altogether because in Michigan you
[02:35:31] can do that, and they were pulling a Democrat ballot to vote for Haley Stevens. That's how
[02:35:35] afraid of LSA they were. So I think it absolutely puts Mike on the map.
[02:35:41] So here's a campaign with Hassan Piker. Hassan Piker said America deserved 9-11. I'm from
[02:35:48] Ohio. I don't think Michigan is that different from Ohio.
[02:35:53] No. I don't know how it's going to fly, but go ahead and roll this. Sound bite number
[02:35:58] three. Watch here.
[02:36:00] Do you see a progressive lane materializing that goes through Michigan for 2028 after
[02:36:07] tonight?
[02:36:08] Absolutely.
[02:36:09] But it's not just Michigan.
[02:36:11] This is just the beginning.
[02:36:12] These are never supposed to be swing states and they will never be swing states ever
[02:36:16] again.
[02:36:17] If I have something to do with it, we will hopefully continue this movement all across
[02:36:25] the United States of America.
[02:36:26] We'll go to every single state.
[02:36:28] Here's what's going to happen, Rona. Every Democrat is going to be asked whether or not
[02:36:32] they can support this. It's already happening even before the vote yesterday.
[02:36:36] Yeah, how'd that work out? How'd that work out?
[02:36:47] I'm telling you right now, man, I don't overestimate the amount of influence I have. These guys
[02:36:53] do. Okay. I have my pocket, activist base, door knockers, canvassers, and we can do fundraisers.
[02:37:04] I can get a lot of excitement. I can draw turnout from the under 45 demographic. A lot
[02:37:10] of disillusioned voters, a lot of low propensity voters turned high propensity voters. That's
[02:37:18] what I'm capable of doing. And that is what we delivered in the primaries. And that is
[02:37:24] what we can deliver in the general two. Okay. The calculation from campaigns now is, is
[02:37:32] that good enough with the additional associations that will lead to additional negative ad spend?
[02:37:40] Okay. That's it. That's literally it. That's all I'm capable of doing. I can't give you
[02:37:46] 65 year olds as a matter of fact your association with me might even hurt
[02:37:51] The the 65 plus year old demographic in the long run because then all of a sudden they're gonna be like well
[02:37:56] You are with this dangerous radical
[02:37:59] You know
[02:38:03] And you got to win those boomers over I
[02:38:06] Have a theory for how we can win those boomers over
[02:38:10] I have a theory for how we can win those boomers over with the youth turnout
[02:38:16] Okay?
[02:38:20] No, the Olds love you and they see you it's weird. No, I mean for sure
[02:38:24] But I'm saying like the Olds that are mostly seeing not me, but a very negatively framed version of me
[02:38:33] Democratic Congresswoman running in Kent County that I just showed she said there's no way I can get behind say, yeah, right?
[02:38:38] And she's Democrat now now yesterday. We see that's the thing. That's the thing. This is like
[02:38:43] Like, these are, there are haters in our ranks.
[02:38:50] Notice how whenever someone comes out and says, yeah, that's actually a bad association,
[02:38:54] immediately it's weaponized by the Republicans.
[02:38:56] This is why you can't, this is why you have to have discipline.
[02:38:59] This is why you have to abide by the party line.
[02:39:03] Okay?
[02:39:04] You can't be out here doing that.
[02:39:07] You can't be out here saying like, oh, I'm a centrist Democrat and I think Abdul is a
[02:39:10] bridge too far.
[02:39:11] That must be punished, okay?
[02:39:14] If there's one Marx's Leninist doctrine that the Democratic Party should deploy, it's that,
[02:39:19] okay?
[02:39:20] Follow the party line.
[02:39:22] Sure, we'll have robust democracy, a robust Democratic back and forth internally within
[02:39:29] the party.
[02:39:30] But once that's over, once the winner is declared, no more factionalism is over.
[02:39:41] Abide by the party line.
[02:39:45] That's it.
[02:39:49] We had Debbie Dingell on. I've known Debbie Dingell for decades.
[02:39:53] And she took a different position. She said, if Syed wins,
[02:39:57] we must get behind him because we have to take back the Senate.
[02:40:01] I know Debbie Dingell is a friend of Israel. These are
[02:40:05] cross currents that I don't think the party has seen or
[02:40:09] experienced just yet, and we're about to find out how it goes.
[02:40:13] How do you see that one?
[02:40:15] And he barely won, Bill.
[02:40:16] So this was going to be this runaway train,
[02:40:18] and he barely won.
[02:40:20] And you know what he did?
[02:40:21] He doubled down on his extreme rhetoric,
[02:40:23] because he brought Hassan Piker into campaign with him
[02:40:26] in the closing days.
[02:40:28] He brought this guy who said, we deserve 9-11,
[02:40:30] into campaign with him.
[02:40:31] This is who else I am.
[02:40:33] But I want to do a little cautionary tale here.
[02:40:35] Republicans can't just say socialism or communism.
[02:40:39] We need to call these people what they are.
[02:40:41] They're anti-America.
[02:40:43] They are running on an agenda.
[02:40:44] Wow, I thought communism alone was enough.
[02:40:49] I wonder why Ronan McDaniel is now saying,
[02:40:52] yeah, just simply saying communism or socialism
[02:40:56] is not enough.
[02:41:01] Now you gotta say it's anti-America.
[02:41:04] That's good.
[02:41:05] interesting
[02:41:07] perhaps
[02:41:08] ronald mcdaniel has seen the polls that we've seen which show that jenzi is
[02:41:12] actually
[02:41:13] positive on communism
[02:41:15] to get rid of our constitution the socialist movement to get rid of
[02:41:18] the u.s. senate
[02:41:20] they are saying
[02:41:21] hot side has said
[02:41:22] gaza is more important than detroit
[02:41:25] he's never said that this is what we have to fight and where he had huge wins
[02:41:30] last night big margins washington a county where university of michigan is
[02:41:35] Ingham County, where Michigan State is.
[02:41:37] You mentioned Kent County, where a lot of universities are.
[02:41:41] Those college kids are not on campus right now.
[02:41:44] School hasn't started.
[02:41:46] So that is where they're gonna be,
[02:41:48] and we as Republicans can't just use platitudes
[02:41:51] like socialism.
[02:41:52] We need to show people how scary this ticket is,
[02:41:54] because if he gets in, this is the new movement
[02:41:57] for the Democrat Party, and it's scary for our country.
[02:42:01] Okay, Rhonda, thanks for coming on.
[02:42:03] Rhonda McDaniel, appreciate it.
[02:42:04] will stay in contact and also right now,
[02:42:07] the Associated Press is making another call, Aisha.
[02:42:11] In the city of Detroit,
[02:42:12] a congressional district number 13,
[02:42:15] Donovan McKinney has now been declared a goer.
[02:42:18] Donovan McKinney was backed by the DSA.
[02:42:21] Syed was backed by the DSA also,
[02:42:23] but he's considered progressive,
[02:42:25] not a member of the DSA.
[02:42:26] He's not successful.
[02:42:27] Party per se, right, correct on that.
[02:42:29] So in what, in three, let's call it
[02:42:32] three and a half races yesterday,
[02:42:33] Cory Bush lost in St. Louis, so you're 0 for 1, but you got a progressive who has now
[02:42:39] been declared a winner in Detroit, so now you're 1 in 1.
[02:42:42] You had another progressive in the middle part of the state, Congressional District
[02:42:46] 7 who won, so now 2 in 1, and Syed will give him a half point because it's kind of going
[02:42:51] halfway, shall we say?
[02:42:53] So it's 2.5 to 1 based on the results from last night between Missouri and Michigan.
[02:43:00] be sure to like and subscribe for all the Fox News late.
[02:43:04] The race for Michigan's open Senate seat with Schumer Dodgers on support for far left
[02:43:10] dam in key rays. No, he doesn't know he said, yeah, we're ready to beat Mike Rogers. That's what he said.
[02:43:16] In response to this from Mike Johnson, I'm done. He congratulates Abdul Al Sayed for his Michigan victory.
[02:43:21] He said he spoke with El said a few times over the past several years. He can lift a lot more than I can.
[02:43:25] He says, I don't think in any way this man is a mini mum Donnie.
[02:43:29] to stand and fight to protect the greatest nation in the history of the world from being
[02:43:34] overrun by many Munganese.
[02:43:36] So it's one of my characters.
[02:43:38] Yes.
[02:43:39] You must have the program.
[02:43:40] You must not have the program.
[02:43:43] Well, I'm assuming that's in response to Uphill of Science's victory yesterday.
[02:43:49] And first I'd just like to congratulate Dr. Uphill of Science on his victory.
[02:43:53] You ran a campaign where it was best described
[02:43:59] by his words of money out of politics,
[02:44:01] money in your pocket, and that you care for all.
[02:44:03] And if those simple commitments and beliefs
[02:44:07] are what drives Representative Johnson
[02:44:08] to these kinds of conclusions, I think
[02:44:10] it shows you have deeply out of touch with Republican parties
[02:44:13] with the concerns of working class Americans.
[02:44:16] Because what we have seen is despite him
[02:44:18] facing one of $60 million in outside spending,
[02:44:21] he was able to prevail with a focus on a cost of living crisis
[02:44:26] and the way in which health care is exceedingly outreach
[02:44:30] for those who would help to make this country worthless.
[02:44:43] You get mentioned in all the Fox News segments,
[02:44:45] I believe, I mean, that's not surprising.
[02:44:48] Guys, I said this last night
[02:44:50] I've said it before jokingly, but it's becoming real. Yes.
[02:44:58] The Republican midterm strategy is to just say DSA, Hasan Piker, communism, radical Islamic
[02:45:05] style terrorism, al-Qaeda, 9-11. That's it. Which is good for us. It's good. This is not a bad thing.
[02:45:15] It's just what you do with that message.
[02:45:20] How you suit, how you take that message and flip it back on his head.
[02:45:45] you
[02:46:15] you
[02:46:45] you
[02:47:15] you
[02:47:45] you
[02:48:15] I'm Bill Ramon.
[02:48:41] What state do you think this is? What do you mean? Yeah, no, this is oh my god. This is gonna go so hard
[02:48:53] Oh my god
[02:48:55] Wow
[02:48:57] You're one of Op-Bills OG tickers. There are more people that have $10 million of a network in the United States of America
[02:49:03] than there are people who can bench 225
[02:49:11] Come on. Come on. Come on.
[02:49:20] 315 for one. 315, Khalid.
[02:49:22] That was good. That was really good. That was very good.
[02:49:24] That was very impressive.
[02:49:26] Well, you got to pull them up.
[02:49:28] Give the people what they want. Come on.
[02:49:30] Come on.
[02:49:31] I mean, it's not that kind of show, man. It's not that kind of show.
[02:49:33] Come on.
[02:49:34] I won't give them money for my policy, man.
[02:49:36] It's so funny that the Democrats literally were like,
[02:49:39] We need more bro energy, we need more alpha energy, we need to like appeal to the fucking
[02:49:44] youth with like, we need to be where the youth are.
[02:49:48] And it's so funny that like, he just organically is that into a certain degree, I'm organically
[02:49:53] that as well.
[02:49:55] And they literally used that as a way to be like he's sexist, he's misogynistic, he's
[02:50:02] too much of an alpha bro, this fucking sucks.
[02:50:05] Like the most shameless shit I've ever done seen.
[02:50:09] Yeah, they wanted Pete, not you.
[02:50:12] Yeah, but Pete Buttigieg is not that.
[02:50:14] He's not him.
[02:50:15] You know what I mean?
[02:50:16] I'm sorry.
[02:50:17] No disrespect.
[02:50:18] Like, you have to, you have to make sure that it's organic.
[02:50:25] You can't just like develop that, you know what I mean?
[02:50:31] Occurs me the outside who does WWF promo level, Mockery of his opponents campaigns in the
[02:50:34] And type black teen and vice reporters the watches live this channeling the alpha energy
[02:50:38] that Lisa Slokkin wished into the university at monkey's paw curls, dude, literally.
[02:50:50] My mom said I love Schumer's ad, he got me.
[02:50:54] My mom approves.
[02:50:57] I approve as well.
[02:50:59] That Chuck Schumer ad is beast mode.
[02:51:04] physically fit has no political affiliation. I agree. Yeah, it's the same with like the
[02:51:11] Democratic party literally left the 2024 election going, we need a Joe Rogan to the left. It's
[02:51:16] a Sondpiker, the Joe, it is a Sondpiker Joe Rogan to the left. And then they were like,
[02:51:21] nevermind, we actually don't want a Sondpiker to be anywhere near the Democratic party.
[02:51:27] We don't want him. We hate the Joe Rogan to the left. It turns out it's really bad. Okay.
[02:51:33] the same. And the same goes for like, Oh, we need to alpha guy, like we need a guy who
[02:51:38] you know, works out and can appeal to the fucking youth and get the bro vote and get
[02:51:43] the disillusioned, disaffected, you know, young voters back to the Democratic party
[02:51:48] line. And it's like, you got it, but you hate it.
[02:51:52] Last night's marquee match up a lot closer than we all thought at this hour. Progressive
[02:52:00] of Abdul El Said is clinging to a one point lead.
[02:52:05] That's it, just one point.
[02:52:06] Michigan's largest county is still tallying the votes.
[02:52:10] We'll have more on that in just a second.
[02:52:12] So we'll take you to the board and show you
[02:52:13] where it stands in a moment.
[02:52:15] All right, we're gonna skip this one.
[02:52:17] Memphis, I gotta give a special.
[02:52:19] GOP sounds alarm on DSA positive after El Said's
[02:52:22] primary victory.
[02:52:23] All right, let's see the molding.
[02:52:24] Let's see the hogwash now.
[02:52:26] Thank you to my first endorsers, Bernie Sanders,
[02:52:29] the OG who came in on day one.
[02:52:32] We're gonna build a movement that reaches out to everybody.
[02:52:34] Mike Rogers, the guy whose politics and vision
[02:52:37] and perspective are old.
[02:52:39] Is he MAGA?
[02:52:40] Is he Neocon?
[02:52:42] No, man, he's just a corporate seller.
[02:52:44] Abdul Al Sayad delivering another big win
[02:52:47] for the Democrat Party's left flank,
[02:52:48] capturing Michigan's high-stakes Senate primary
[02:52:51] and opening up to new party in fighting.
[02:52:55] I mean, he has like a really,
[02:52:56] like a little man syndrome kind of energy.
[02:52:59] Yeah, well, I can't come together with someone
[02:53:01] if you're willing to embrace people that love Hamas
[02:53:05] or that thinks America deserved 9-11.
[02:53:07] I think that's reasonable.
[02:53:10] LCIAD today called for party unity,
[02:53:12] even as he continues to appear with far left activists
[02:53:15] on Piker, who is now attacking LCIAD's critics
[02:53:18] in vulgar terms.
[02:53:20] Here's the f***ing take nuke for you, OK?
[02:53:23] You are all unbelievably Islamophobic pieces of sh**, OK?
[02:53:28] You literally called the dude a terrorist.
[02:53:32] Our senior national correspondent, Rich Edson, is reporting live on all of this.
[02:53:35] No, no, no, no, it's true. Every single consultant, every single consultant
[02:53:41] that said Abdul's unelectable, his policies are too radical.
[02:53:45] Every single consultant leaned into it. Every single one is true.
[02:53:51] It's true. Now, of course, people turned around and said like, Oh,
[02:53:55] Hassan is like yelling at the voters. I would never do that.
[02:53:58] I never will and I wasn't doing that there either. Okay?
[02:54:07] Mike called you out for that for what?
[02:54:12] Michael from Florida was woke 1.0 about this this morning. You were cooking why they ended there. Yeah
[02:54:19] You yell at the chatters, which is understandable. No, like my point was there are a lot of these
[02:54:29] people who straight up leaned into the Islamophobic lines of attack. Okay. And then turned around,
[02:54:38] turned around and then made it seem like I've let the kiss the fucking ring. He didn't have to kiss
[02:54:43] your ring. He has to kiss the feet of the voters. Okay. That's all he has to do.
[02:54:52] Clip chimpable event could be used towards voters, not consultants. I know, I know. Not
[02:54:58] everything, not everything from my, my stream has to be clipped and blasted on the timeline.
[02:55:04] Even if we think that it's like a, a defensible sentiment, it doesn't matter. It's like we have
[02:55:10] that we have to angle those clips to the best of our ability for the masses if we're going to
[02:55:16] clip those things to be like, Hassan delivers a rebuke to the consultants.
[02:55:24] I love Hassan and understand how we're feeling, but we need to be magnanimous in victories by
[02:55:27] getting the footballs only appropriate in races where we have a locked up and swing seat. We need
[02:55:31] every Stevens voter. Yeah, I wasn't even talking about the Stevens voter, any Stevens voters and
[02:55:35] And even Michael from Pennsylvania, also known as Michael from Taiwan, not Beijing,
[02:55:46] misunderstood the point I was making.
[02:55:50] Yeah, the bots and most race people are in the quote, we shut up lying, but we can't,
[02:55:59] we can call it lying because we've already debunked our uncommitted bullshit, but they're
[02:56:02] still at it.
[02:56:03] have to admit that those are bigoted extremists and work to protect our coalition. Yeah, that's
[02:56:08] exactly what I'm talking about. And Rua, who is far more considerate and far more careful
[02:56:15] in the language that she uses, also identified it. Okay. I am, you will never catch me yelling
[02:56:31] at the voters. Okay. You say it at the end of that clip. Yeah. I'm talking about lock
[02:56:38] in to the consultant class in DC, to the media class who may favor a Democratic Senate majority.
[02:56:49] It's time to lock in.
[02:57:01] You were saying you were right, but it wasn't useful.
[02:57:05] You were trying to say be magnanimous and victory, be a bridge building factory.
[02:57:09] I mean, I'll be a bridge building factory.
[02:57:12] Well, I'll be the factory dude.
[02:57:14] I'll lay the bricks down to build that bridge.
[02:57:18] Well, whoever wants me to do it.
[02:57:21] Dude, I, it's funny because like, here's the, here's the interesting part.
[02:57:28] I was already in these districts, stumping for Donovan. So I was already trying to court voters
[02:57:36] anyway. It's not like I wasn't doing that already, and I will continue to do that. And we not only
[02:57:47] did that, but we won in those districts for Donovan. So it's not even a thing, you know what I mean?
[02:57:53] I'm already, I was already doing the work before the general.
[02:58:01] We'll go Michigan, here Rich.
[02:58:04] And good afternoon Sandra.
[02:58:06] Well Michigan Democrats say they are uniting behind Abdul Al-Sayed
[02:58:09] after his unexpectedly narrow victory over Congresswoman Hailey Stevens.
[02:58:14] We were at a press conference earlier today with Al-Sayed in downtown Detroit
[02:58:19] where he acknowledged the pretty nasty primary he just went through.
[02:58:22] you heard about the historic turnout. Sometimes, you know, intrafamily
[02:58:28] squabbles are the biggest ones, but we all know that when we walk out the
[02:58:32] house, we stand united. And sometimes we got to have it out about the
[02:58:38] conversation about who we are and who we want to be.
[02:58:43] Well, you had it out with Steven. She released a statement today saying,
[02:58:46] quote, I am proud to offer my support as he takes on Mike Rogers. Donald
[02:58:50] Trump and Mike Rodgers want us to come out of this primary time, so their billion backers
[02:58:56] can come in and let multi-millionaire Mike Rodgers walk away with this Senate seat.
[02:59:00] During their primary campaign, Hailey called, or Hailey Stevens called, El Sayed's rhetoric
[02:59:05] divisive and said that he wanted to blame all his problems on Jewish Americans with
[02:59:09] his focus on criticizing Israel's government and APEC's spending on this race.
[02:59:14] She also criticized El Sayed for hanging out Monday night at a pool party with influencers
[02:59:18] like controversial progressive commentator, Hasan Piker.
[02:59:22] Piker was also at Al-Said's party last night.
[02:59:24] Referring to Piker, Stevens yesterday said,
[02:59:26] we don't need demagogues or people citing allegiance
[02:59:29] to Chairman Mao coming into Michigan.
[02:59:32] Republican candidate, Mike Rogers says on all.
[02:59:36] So that fucking pool party, dude, holy shit.
[02:59:44] I mean, look, I'm not gonna lay any fault
[02:59:47] in anybody's hands here, okay?
[02:59:49] But God damn, they got a lot of fucking mileage
[02:59:52] out of that shit.
[02:59:53] Oh my Lord.
[03:00:00] And it's so funny because like,
[03:00:02] I was there for five minutes, bro.
[03:00:10] I spent the overwhelming majority of my time
[03:00:13] door knocking and canvassing, okay?
[03:00:17] I was doing the damn thing that I'm supposed to be doing
[03:00:26] And it's clear
[03:00:29] It's clear that it's not like I was ready for a pool party
[03:00:34] It's not my pool party and I certainly wasn't ready for a pool party. I wasn't even dressed in pool party attire
[03:00:42] You can see it in the photos
[03:00:47] The choice in November is simple, common sense or complete insanity.
[03:01:02] Abdul isn't just another liberal, he is an extremist.
[03:01:06] This morning I'll say challenge Rogers to five debates in the next 13 weeks until election
[03:01:12] day.
[03:01:13] hell yeah. Also, what's really funny about liberals who go see Abdul you have to moderate
[03:01:26] your two radical was really funny about that narrative is they call Haley Stevens a socialist
[03:01:31] man. Like they would have called Haley Stevens a radical socialist anyway. And it's not even
[03:01:43] a speculation. Donald Trump did that.
[03:01:49] Donald Trump did that shit. Yesterday, Donald Trump came out was a Haley Stevens as a socialist
[03:01:58] than obdoles or communists.
[03:02:08] Sandra?
[03:02:09] Rich, that gives us a lot to talk about.
[03:02:10] Thank you very much, John.
[03:02:12] All right, Sandra, let's bring in
[03:02:13] the Indiana Republican Senator Jim Banks.
[03:02:15] Senator Banks, great to see you this afternoon.
[03:02:17] So, Elsaiad looked like he was going into this race
[03:02:20] running away with it with a 10.2% advantage
[03:02:23] in the real clear politics average.
[03:02:25] But he beat Haley by only a single point.
[03:02:28] A lot of people are saying that that's almost the loss for Elsa had.
[03:02:32] What do you think?
[03:02:33] No one is saying that.
[03:02:36] Why would that be a lot, bro?
[03:02:39] What are you saying?
[03:02:47] You know, I know he overcame $64 million, $10 to one ad spend,
[03:02:54] $34 million in APAC money.
[03:02:58] But that victory is actually somehow a loss.
[03:03:01] Is there ever a moment when the left wins, where the left loses, they're like, well,
[03:03:06] this is a big loss for the left.
[03:03:07] The left wins, and they're like, this is a big loss for the left, okay.
[03:03:09] Well, yes, all of the pundits thought this race would be a landslide victory for El Sayed,
[03:03:15] and it wasn't.
[03:03:17] But I think that's because Michigan is a blue collar working class state.
[03:03:22] You have a lot of union Democrats, factory workers that live in that state that don't
[03:03:27] want to vote for a guy like Abdul Rakhman El Sayed who wants to take away their gun rights.
[03:03:33] He wants to.
[03:03:34] Well, not even.
[03:03:36] He's really hitting that home.
[03:03:41] He wants to codify Roe v Wade and overturn the.
[03:03:45] Yeah, famously.
[03:03:47] Famously, labor union rank and filers hate codifying Roe v Wade.
[03:03:54] the part. That's awesome.
[03:04:05] Ob's decision, he wants to abolish ice and a lot of the working class families in Michigan,
[03:04:11] just like in Indiana and around the country, these families just want to keep their these
[03:04:16] men and women just want to keep their families safe. And else I add wants to abolish ice
[03:04:21] and allow the drug cartel gangs to take over the streets of cities in Michigan.
[03:04:26] You look at the extreme positions that El Sayed has staked out and if he would happen
[03:04:31] to win in November, he would be the most extreme Democrat radical United States senator that
[03:04:38] we've ever had.
[03:04:39] He would make Bernie Sanders look squishy with the positions that he's staked out.
[03:04:43] And already this morning he's trying to moderate and change his tune, but look at what he said
[03:04:49] throughout the campaign, his rhetoric is dangerous, his policies, his positions are extreme and
[03:04:55] dangerous.
[03:04:56] And I, I, I, this is why moderating on your positions is dumb as fuck, by the way.
[03:05:05] This is why just run on your positions.
[03:05:07] Don't try to fucking moderate to like a fake audience, because even if you're not doing
[03:05:12] that, but if you're perceived as like changing your tone, they punish you for it.
[03:05:16] And then you look squishy, then you look wishy-washy, then you look like you got caught being a
[03:05:20] hypocrite.
[03:05:21] I have never felt better, up to this point.
[03:05:26] I have never felt better about Republicans keeping, if not growing, the majority in the
[03:05:31] United States Senate than how I feel today after watching else I had when this Michigan
[03:05:38] Democrat.
[03:05:39] Alright, well we will see how it all turns out in November, but you know, you say despite
[03:05:43] his controversial record. Establishment Democrats like Debbie Dingle, moderate of
[03:05:48] moderate, say they're going to get behind him. Listen to what she said earlier
[03:05:51] today. Abdul was very good at meeting with people, talking to people. We didn't
[03:05:55] see Hayley that much, quite frankly. The kids can't even afford to rent, and the
[03:06:00] kids that are graduating can't find jobs. That's a problem. They want to make
[03:06:04] enough money to put food on the table, go to the grocery store. They can't. Debbie
[03:06:09] Debbie Dingle is a huge supporter of Israel, but yet she's willing to give El Sayed a pass
[03:06:14] on the flag.
[03:06:15] Yeah, El Sayed wouldn't even acknowledge and say whether-
[03:06:19] Yeah, I wonder why.
[03:06:21] Yeah, I wonder why Dingle heads rise up.
[03:06:25] I wonder why Debbie Dingle doesn't give a shit about Israel in the fucking Senate majority
[03:06:32] calculation.
[03:06:34] Perhaps it's because she's not a politician from Tel Aviv, but instead a politician from Michigan.
[03:06:46] God, they're so funny. They're like, I can't believe it. Debbie Dingle is a huge supporter of Israel. What is going on?
[03:06:51] It's like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe because she's an American politician in fucking in Michigan. Maybe perhaps that's the reason they're not Israel had a right to exist.
[03:06:59] you hear Debbie Dingle and other Michigan Democrats, Democrats around the country,
[03:07:04] they are afraid of the DSA wing, the radical extreme wing of the Democrat party. And that's
[03:07:10] why they're going to support a very flawed extreme candidate to their own detriment.
[03:07:16] And this isn't just about Michigan. This is about the whole country and what the Democrat party
[03:07:20] has become in America as we head into this midterm election. That's what this is all about.
[03:07:25] Dude, they keep giving us such amazing breaks here, and if we don't weaponize this, we're fucking stupid.
[03:07:35] Just play this shit over and over again. Be like, Republicans or not, America first or Israel first.
[03:07:40] Like, Republicans literally care about Israel more than they care about America.
[03:07:45] Democrats are the only party that actually places America over the interests of Israel.
[03:07:50] It's very clear. Look at Donald Trump's agenda. We have to fucking lean into it, man.
[03:07:55] I don't know what the hell, God, it's just so tough because I mean, look at the money cannon that APAC dropped.
[03:08:08] But it's just crazy to me.
[03:08:12] Just say we're the Israel, we're, we're not the Israel first party, the Republicans are.
[03:08:15] It's the extreme positions of the radical left versus Republicans who are trying to make
[03:08:21] life better for working class families, the Trump tax cuts, the work that we've done to
[03:08:27] bring down, the cost of living in America, the focus on that, and these extreme Democrats
[03:08:32] are focused on just the opposite.
[03:08:33] So, you know, Elsa Ed was walking hand-in-hand with Bernie Sanders, but Bernie Sanders even
[03:08:39] goes so far as to say he does not agree with Elsa Ed's position on 9-11, but he's still
[03:08:44] willing to back him listen to this exchange piker has said america did what do what bro
[03:08:56] are they doing this on purpose or do you think these guys are like that races where they
[03:09:00] just like say what is happening
[03:09:06] obdul is me now what the fuck
[03:09:11] bernie didn't even fucking say anything about
[03:09:14] obdul al-sayed or anything like that bernie just said like he doesn't agree
[03:09:17] with my
[03:09:18] comment on nine eleven which was misconstrued anyway
[03:09:21] and it was misconstrued fucking eight years ago
[03:09:26] what the fuck
[03:09:29] deserved nine eleven are you comfortable with that association
[03:09:32] well i am not i think that's a dumb statement on the other hand he has a
[03:09:36] whole lot of follow-up on the bottom
[03:09:37] things that he's saying that i'm making sense to a lot of people i think you know
[03:09:40] we have to get above
[03:09:42] cancel culture
[03:09:43] it's ironic because it was democrats who invented cancel culture
[03:09:47] and bernie sandress has got a track record let's go back to main and grand
[03:09:50] platter a backing some very controversial candidates but uncertain
[03:09:53] issues very important issues he's willing to turn a blind eyes willing to
[03:09:57] look the other way just to win a seat
[03:10:00] Yeah, else I had would be the most extreme senator ever.
[03:10:05] Bro.
[03:10:10] This is a little bit shocking that even Fox News is doing like the.
[03:10:17] I mean, that was a clip.
[03:10:23] That's on purpose.
[03:10:24] They're purposely saying like, like this, this game of
[03:10:29] Telephone has moved from Hassan did 9-11 Hassan loves 9-11 to actually Abdul like Abdul al-sayed loves 9-11 and did 9-11
[03:10:38] What the fuck is happening, dude?
[03:10:45] They're doing the shit that like those clip accounts do on Twitter where they just will take a clip and then post a totally separate description
[03:10:53] Or sometimes the opposite description and then everyone responds all the boss respond to the description instead
[03:10:59] But now they're doing it at Fox News.
[03:11:10] Trust that with Mike Rogers, by the way, Mike Rogers is a patriot.
[03:11:14] He served in the United States Army.
[03:11:16] He served in Congress, dedicated his life to public service, served in the FBI,
[03:11:21] has an extraordinary track record and barely lost.
[03:11:26] Yeah, they're also they're they're framing this as like the terrorist versus the department of justice.
[03:11:39] Like it's not even a secret. They're literally like, oh, this guy, yeah, he's the Muslim killer
[03:11:44] versus the scary Muslim. Last in the last election to Alyssa Slotkin, who ran as a moderate.
[03:11:50] El Sayed is running as an extreme DSA type Democrat, a radical Democrat. That's it.
[03:11:57] What's going to happen when the margin of victory for Abdul El Sayed is far larger than
[03:12:02] Elisa Slotkin's margin of victory against Mike Rogers?
[03:12:15] Following Rogers cotton inaccurately attributes the America Deserve 911 line to El Sayed,
[03:12:19] Now, Piker who said it, I don't think Republicans are in a political-watching mood here.
[03:12:22] More of them make the SOB-denyant mood.
[03:12:27] Yeah.
[03:12:31] Yeah, they went from, dude, they're so racist, brother. What the fuck?
[03:12:49] This is crazy.
[03:13:14] attack the Abdul? Filth, crime, death, destruction, embarrassment, you lose your home, you lose
[03:13:26] your apartment, and that's where the communists will take us 100%. When I watch Abdul, he's
[03:13:33] He's full of shit.
[03:13:50] Filth, crime, death, destruction, embarrassment.
[03:13:57] you lose your home. It sucks. Our president is a pedophile. What can you do?
[03:14:19] Big difference. I have a great feeling about Mike Rogers.
[03:14:21] Yeah, I know Katelyn Collins going to have Abdul on at
[03:14:27] six p.m. Pacific time in approximately three hours.
[03:14:34] I can't believe our president is saying shit like this.
[03:14:36] When in the winning Michigan and winning it in a big way.
[03:14:39] All right, we'll see the real clear politics average at the moment.
[03:14:41] I know it's just a snapshot in time has only got Rogers ahead by point three
[03:14:46] of a percentage point, but we'll see.
[03:14:48] We've got a long time between now and November.
[03:14:50] what he's got a rushing at us
[03:14:52] and miles an hour senator i was going to catch up with you thanks so much for
[03:14:54] joining us thank you
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[03:15:05] right tonight if the polls are accurate
[03:15:08] abdull al-sayed uh... has the edge big time in michigan's democratic senate
[03:15:13] primary member this is a democratic primary usually have well more activists
[03:15:19] uh... on both republican side and the democratic side voting in a primary
[03:15:23] and while lsi it often puts a cheerful face
[03:15:26] his policy believes they are dark they're scary at the core of his platform
[03:15:31] is
[03:15:31] uh... at its core of platform of the obsessive dislike of israel the world's
[03:15:36] only jewish state along with american jews who support israel in fact he
[03:15:41] refuses to say whether israel should even exist
[03:15:44] lsi it seems to bring up israel in a pack
[03:15:47] uh... constantly leaving one
[03:15:50] this is so good
[03:15:53] this is so fucking good for us to
[03:15:57] them panicking about israel is so fucking good for us because again
[03:16:01] unbelievably unpopular only slated to get worse
[03:16:12] it is
[03:16:14] the best issue for us.
[03:16:17] It's the best issue for us because it's also
[03:16:20] increasingly less popular in the Republican Party as well.
[03:16:28] So every time they fucking cook on this shit,
[03:16:31] like it's the equivalent of like,
[03:16:35] it's a layup, it's easy money.
[03:16:38] It's the equivalent of them complaining
[03:16:40] that Abdul El Sayed is like two anti-data center
[03:16:42] or anti-flot cameras or some shit,
[03:16:44] You know what I mean?
[03:16:52] Reverend to openly wonder if El Sayed even cares more about the West Bank than the West
[03:16:57] side of Detroit.
[03:16:59] And to make matters worse, El Sayed, well, of course, we've been talking about it.
[03:17:03] He's very good buddies with radical socialist Afsan Piker, the guy that, as Kevin Cork told
[03:17:09] you, said that America deserved 9-11.
[03:17:13] does not like Israel, features framed images of our twin towers burning on his podcast.
[03:17:20] In fact, according to Fox News dot com, just last night on election eve, Piker and El
[03:17:25] Sayed, they were partying together.
[03:17:26] El Sayed is happy to have Piker's support.
[03:17:29] Take a look.
[03:17:30] Was campaigning with him a good idea?
[03:17:32] Look, I want to reach out to his viewers.
[03:17:36] He has a three million person platform.
[03:17:39] And there are things that Hasan and I disagree with.
[03:17:41] If you watched any of our content together, and there are things that he and I agree with
[03:17:46] on the question of taking on the fascism of the Trump administration, we agree.
[03:17:53] Now it's not just a common hatred of President Trump, the pair of radicals agree on pretty
[03:17:57] much everything.
[03:17:58] Now, keep in mind that Hassan Piker hates America, wants to destroy cap.
[03:18:05] I like that he has to like keep repeating that I hate America so that people don't forget
[03:18:10] like why they're supposed to hate me because even then he's he understands that like most people in
[03:18:16] his audience still don't know who the fuck I am or why should they even care it's like no you have
[03:18:20] to remember we hate this guy okay we hate this guy why do we hate this guy because he hates America
[03:18:28] a reminder to all we hate this guy because he hates America
[03:18:40] Capitalism likes to dress up as Mao and constantly praising, you know, one of the world's most
[03:18:49] violent dictators.
[03:18:50] But Abdul al-Said doesn't seem to mind.
[03:18:52] In fact, despite calling our duly elected president a fascist, al-Said could not bring
[03:18:58] himself to say a bad word about the dead Ayatollah, the supreme leader, Islam al-Fashez dictator,
[03:19:05] who by the way, murdered scores of Americans, Iraqis and his own people in Iran.
[03:19:10] a look. I also want to remind you guys that there are a lot of people in
[03:19:14] Dearborn who are sad today. So like I just don't want to comment on the money
[03:19:18] I don't think it's worth even touching that. I don't think it's worth
[03:19:26] touching that but Trump's a fascist. Okay this is not someone interested in
[03:19:31] putting America first. What do you mean?
[03:19:37] That low key is the most American position. Yeah, he's talking about
[03:19:48] He's talking about Trump being a fascist and then being like look there's a lot of Americans
[03:19:55] I feel a different different type of way about this religious figure. Well, he doesn't agree with it
[03:20:00] And in the broader context of the conversation, he's just saying like this is not a sad day because of the, because of the Ayatollah died. It's just a sad day because we've blown up a fucking school.
[03:20:13] in school.
[03:20:23] Doubly sad because of those actions leading to global crisis
[03:20:33] that has negative consequences on Americans.
[03:20:37] put it, Abdul-Al-Said, he fuses two toxic ideologies together, and that is now commonplace
[03:20:46] in the Democratic Party.
[03:20:47] This includes an over-the-top anti-Israel obsession, and of course, Democratic socialism.
[03:20:52] Like all other DSA-backed candidates, Al-Said is vowing to eliminate private health insurance
[03:20:58] in favor of a-
[03:20:59] Okay, I'm going to repeat this one more time.
[03:21:02] Abdul-Al-Said is not in any way, shape, or form affiliated with the Democratic Socialists
[03:21:07] America. You can at least say like he's associated with me, but I am not associated with the Democratic
[03:21:16] Socialists of America. Did that work? You think? I am not a member of the DSA. You guys should join
[03:21:28] One DSA though, of course, if you haven't already,
[03:21:32] I don't know what you're waiting for.
[03:21:45] I am an independent reporter in independent media,
[03:21:50] PBS, Piker Backcasting Service.
[03:21:53] Some might say this is the propaganda mouthpiece
[03:21:55] of the Democratic Socialists of America,
[03:21:57] movement, the organization, to them I say no, I'm just independent.
[03:22:04] its
[03:22:26] single-payer system, as the people in Canada, why they so often come to America for health
[03:22:30] even though it's free up there,
[03:22:32] and they have to wait, and it's inferior.
[03:22:34] And of course, he wants that to cover illegal immigrants,
[03:22:37] speaking of which,
[03:22:38] outside wants to abolish ICE,
[03:22:41] reduce military spending,
[03:22:43] seize the means of production of America's top tech companies,
[03:22:47] expand government handouts,
[03:22:49] and taxes to every aspect of life.
[03:22:51] He wants a cradle to grave,
[03:22:53] womb to the tomb, ideology.
[03:22:55] These are extreme beliefs,
[03:22:56] but not in this modern democratic radicalized party.
[03:23:00] in fact, more than 250 democratic socialists already serve in public offices now all across
[03:23:06] our country. Now 90% of them were elected since only 2019. So far in this year's primaries,
[03:23:13] 35 DSA members have already beaten establishment Democrats and there are more to come likely
[03:23:19] one tonight. In other words, we're so fucking go to dude, holy shit. The Democratic Party
[03:23:24] as quickly as you once knew it going extinct is now being replaced by a group of extreme
[03:23:30] American hating Israel hating communists that would like to destroy our entire way of life
[03:23:35] and frankly remake America in an image you wouldn't recognize while China rules the world and
[03:23:42] despite the extremely high you know stakes here this is the best what establishment Democrats can do
[03:23:48] And you better believe I'm going to be doing on it with a little bit of joy, a little bit
[03:23:55] of enthusiasm, a little bit of energy, and a little bit of sick it to them.
[03:24:00] Because that's the Michigan way.
[03:24:02] And I'm not supposed to pick up this microphone.
[03:24:04] I think it's just laying down.
[03:24:06] Did you want me to or no?
[03:24:07] What do you want me to do?
[03:24:09] Hold this.
[03:24:10] Holy smokes.
[03:24:11] I mean, if you can't hear me and you need the mic, I'll do it.
[03:24:15] You will see darkness.
[03:24:16] You will be pushed and our society needs you to stand together at this time.
[03:24:21] Our country loves you to our doctors and our nurses.
[03:24:25] I wear these ladies.
[03:24:26] The gentle lady's time has expired.
[03:24:28] The gentleman from Maryland is wrecked.
[03:24:32] Okay then.
[03:24:33] All right.
[03:24:34] Thanks for watching.
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[03:24:40] I'm a bitch.
[03:24:41] of a bitch.
[03:24:42] A duel al-sayed has really worked to embrace online influencers in this campaign, including
[03:24:47] some who have offended some mainstream Democrats.
[03:24:50] It's all part of an effort to try to reach a wider swath of voters in this election and
[03:24:56] the days before the primary al-sayed attended a pool party for content creators.
[03:25:01] And at his campaign primary night event, there were a number of progressives with large online
[03:25:07] and followings, including a few Democratic socialists
[03:25:11] candidates.
[03:25:11] Now, notably, Hassan Piker, the progressive Twitch streamer.
[03:25:15] Michigan is not a purple state.
[03:25:17] It's only considered a purple state
[03:25:19] because the establishment of Democrats
[03:25:21] dropped them all twice.
[03:25:23] He was at El Sayed's campaign headquarters
[03:25:26] on Tuesday night, live streaming to his thousands
[03:25:29] of followers.
[03:25:29] El Sayed had faced some criticism in the past
[03:25:32] for campaigning with Piker, a progressive pro-Palestinian
[03:25:36] activists who in the past has said that Hamas is the lesser of evils compared to
[03:25:41] Israel and also at one point said that America deserved 9-11. That's a comment
[03:25:45] that Piker later backed away from saying that was inappropriate but Piker
[03:25:50] told us that he hopes LSI Ed's campaign will send a message about the
[03:25:54] direction of the Democratic Party. They might have the money but we have the
[03:25:59] people and as long as people are organized they are virtually impossible to
[03:26:04] defeat. There's Dr. Al Sayed defeating Congresswoman Hillie Steele.
[03:26:19] Madaglaceous. Money just doesn't actually seem that important elections and the main
[03:26:23] thing that Democrats should take away from this is that they'd be well advised to spend
[03:26:27] less time cowtowing to their donors or mostly shim-lift-winging an ethosally electorate.
[03:26:32] What?
[03:26:34] How drunk were you in the interview?
[03:26:37] Um, I wasn't drunk at all. I didn't drink at all.
[03:26:39] I drank like the two shots. That's it, way before I went out, but I wasn't drunk.
[03:26:43] It was a drive-in.
[03:26:46] Bro, he's, he's trolling, right?
[03:26:51] Is he trolling?
[03:26:54] The CNN conversation was on your side.
[03:26:57] He's fucking, okay, well, before we get the root browser.
[03:26:59] The Dolos I add has really worked to him.
[03:27:01] Let's look at the comments. 70k. Too late for the smear jobs. No mention of APEG is everything you need to know.
[03:27:07] Notice the major media will mention APEG. The only reason this is closed.
[03:27:12] Obviously doing great reporting these days. Streamers and socialists, I think you've been
[03:27:15] American. CNN has off to you. You're very smartly worked your bias into your commentary. Damn.
[03:27:21] him. I feel like I'm being
[03:27:28] defended in Congresswoman Haley Stevens. Now setting his sights on the midterm election
[03:27:33] this fall where he'll face Republican Mike Rogers. Here's a look at the results in that
[03:27:37] Democratic primary Dr. Abdul Al Sayed getting just over 48% of the vote. Haley Stevens getting
[03:27:43] 47%. It was a tight race. And look at this. Mallory McMurray who had suspended her campaign
[03:27:48] weeks ahead of the election still received 4% of the vote as well.
[03:27:52] Dr. Alsayed, greeting his supporters this morning at the spirit of Detroit, alongside
[03:27:56] McMurray, who actually officially endorsed him and introduced him.
[03:28:00] The race remained close throughout election night.
[03:28:02] Alsayed holding a narrow lead overnight but wasn't declared the winner until this morning.
[03:28:08] Stevens called Alsayed to concede and in a statement said she would back the campaign.
[03:28:12] The race had become contentious at times with policy toward Israel thrust into the spotlight.
[03:28:17] Today, Dr. Al-Sayed had this message to Stephen's Jewish supporters.
[03:28:22] To my Jewish American sisters and brothers, one of the most indelible memories of this campaign
[03:28:29] will have been the opportunity to break bread with you at Seder, to worship with you at school,
[03:28:36] to be embraced by you, and listening to sisters and brothers who said,
[03:28:44] who said, you know, I want to join this movement because APAC doesn't speak for me, because
[03:28:48] I understand that self-determination for one people does not require the quenching of self-determination
[03:28:55] for another people.
[03:28:57] That unless all of us are free, none of us are free, I want to tell you the great gift
[03:29:02] that you've given me, and to all of my sisters and brothers of the Jewish faith, or any faith
[03:29:08] at all, or no faith at all, I want you to know that my commitment to your safety, my commitment
[03:29:13] to Jewish and safety is the same commitment that I have to the safety of my own daughters.
[03:29:21] meantime Mike Rogers responding to Elsie's victory saying in a statement quote,
[03:29:25] Abdul doesn't represent a vision for the future. He's leading a movement grounded
[03:29:29] in ideological fanaticism. Is that I do wonder like, will there ever be a point where
[03:29:36] Because the thing is, Jews are super woke in their voting patterns for the most part,
[03:29:46] like 75% Democratic Party, one of the most liberal demographics in the country, right?
[03:29:53] So I wonder if there's a point where they'll be like, why are all of these people that
[03:29:57] we would otherwise like, that we would otherwise agree with, constantly saying that they just
[03:30:03] like don't fuck with Israel, but they're also simultaneously constantly telling us like they don't hate us
[03:30:11] Like will there be a moment like I talked to the Jewish telegraphic agency last night
[03:30:18] I don't know if you guys heard I don't know how much of that conversation you you picked up
[03:30:22] and I don't know if JTA actually wrote about it but I had like a like a 10 minute combo with them
[03:30:28] where I was just like look man I understand and Abdul talks about this too like
[03:30:32] like, we're Muslim American, like we understand what it's like to be distributed against,
[03:30:36] you know, without knowing anything about us. You said the USA's roots were primarily Jewish
[03:30:42] old men. No, I said, we follow our opposition to Israel is one that is born out of our desire
[03:30:49] for a more equitable and just outcome for all peoples, which is, dare I say, the Jewish
[03:30:54] tradition of resistance towards violence, resistance towards fascism. That's what I said.
[03:31:08] You look super depressed. Are you okay? Doc, he's in his 30s and he didn't get
[03:31:13] sleep before his flight.
[03:31:16] Bruh. Oh my god. What the fuck does me beating my 30s have to do with that?
[03:31:24] What the hell?
[03:31:31] Yo, that's ageism.
[03:31:46] And that would make our communities less safe and our state less affordable, end quote.
[03:31:50] Joining us now live via Zoom, we welcome the Democratic nominee for US Senate exclusively
[03:31:54] here at five, Dr. Abdul Al Sayed. And Dr. Sayed, it's good to see you. The last time we talked
[03:31:58] was on the debate stage here at Fox two. And here you are as a victor. That's the Baltimore
[03:32:03] Mounds, Roop Raj. Your thoughts moving forward into tonight and into the rest of the race.
[03:32:10] Well, Roop, it's an honor to be with you again. An honor to speak with the viewers of your channel.
[03:32:17] And we're able to be able to speak as the Democratic nominee for US Senate here in Michigan.
[03:32:23] We've got an opportunity in this race to continue to build forward, to get money out of politics,
[03:32:27] put money in pockets, and pass Medicare for all. If you, like me, believe that gas shouldn't be so
[03:32:32] expensive, that groceries should be more affordable, that you should be able to see a doctor, the
[03:32:36] richest, most powerful country in the world, and that your taxes should be spent on you and your
[03:32:40] kids instead of sent somewhere else to fight wars, or do even worse things, I hope that you see
[03:32:46] a future in this movement. We know that it's been contentious-
[03:32:50] Oh, JTA put my quote in there.
[03:33:01] The Sampaget influential ever streamer and strident Israel critic whose campaign with
[03:33:07] al-sahed this spring touched off a far summer controversy was president live streaming from
[03:33:10] the sea when asked by the JTA, what he would say to Jewish voters who feel al-sahed does
[03:33:14] not share their concerns about 877 Paget replied, Abdul al-sahed definitely cares about 877.
[03:33:18] Look, we're Muslim Americans, okay?
[03:33:20] is something that we deeply understand. That's part of the reason why it makes it all the
[03:33:24] more sad that there's so much crosstalk and so much misinformation out there. Parker continued.
[03:33:28] We oppose Israel and somewhat of a Jewish tradition of anti-fascism. It's nothing different.
[03:33:32] It is nothing new with Jewish people at all and everything to do with all the harm that
[03:33:36] has happened so far. I did that for the, for the bubbler. Okay. I did that, I did that
[03:33:44] for like the, the aunties. Like I feel like if an auntie reads that, you know what I mean?
[03:33:50] I feel like auntie is going to read that and be like, oh, I actually kind of understand what he's saying
[03:33:55] You know what I mean? I don't know
[03:33:58] I don't know if you guys actually uh clocked it, but I give very different
[03:34:04] I give very different answers to different outlets. I mean, it's the same answer, but I
[03:34:10] Choose my language very carefully
[03:34:12] No, it's not a private and a public opinion, no, like when I was talking in the national
[03:34:22] review, I talked about the populist rage that Trump was able to capture.
[03:34:28] And how now that populist rage is on our side because the Republicans haven't put America
[03:34:36] The first is Trump claimed he would.
[03:34:47] I did notice that.
[03:34:48] Are you speaking from experience here?
[03:34:49] Are there things you've worded badly in the past?
[03:34:51] Oh, good one chatter.
[03:34:59] Good one.
[03:35:04] Peace for Hassan Wen. Also, why are you dressed like Dwight Schrute-Level? I don't know.
[03:35:11] I was blown away how well-spoken you were with every single news outlet.
[03:35:20] You target your speech directly to the readers or whichever outlet you're talking to. It's
[03:35:24] insanely talented to see you do it. Yeah, that's my, I would say that might be my most
[03:35:30] impressive feet. That's the thing that I'm very good at. I have. I don't think you awarded anything
[03:35:37] in badly in the past on ironically, okay.
[03:35:52] What time is Chris on Hannity? I don't know, man. I don't know. What do you want me to do? Text them?
[03:36:00] Ted Dush. You can't claim to stand with the Jewish community and immediately call an entire
[03:36:07] nation of Jews bloodthirsty. This demonizing language is exactly why Jews across America
[03:36:10] don't feel safe.
[03:36:12] Incendancy American politicians have spent decades demonizing entire countries before
[03:36:15] invading them, now saying criticism of Israel is off limits because Jews live there. By
[03:36:18] the way, note how we erased the fifth of Israel's population as Arab and not Jewish. The constant
[03:36:23] confusion of Israeli-Israel with Jews by Israel supporters is so cynical and dangerous I can't
[03:36:27] say it often or loudly enough. Oh God, he gets so debate lordy with this stuff.
[03:36:36] Same point made here.
[03:36:38] I love the Jewish people and I love Judaism, but fuck the only Jewish state
[03:36:42] and fuck the most important advocacy organization that represents them.
[03:36:44] Give me a break.
[03:36:45] People are just talking about two completely different things when they say
[03:36:48] anti-Semitism. Nadav is asking whether someone, a friend of the Jews,
[03:36:52] as a collective, while El Sayed is saying he'll give every countryman a fair shake
[03:36:56] regardless of their background.
[03:36:57] I mean, I think all of this is wrong because if Israel, Jewish or not, if Israel wasn't
[03:37:08] a violent apartheid state, then this would not be a concern.
[03:37:12] That's it.
[03:37:13] Like, Abdul would not care about it.
[03:37:15] Abdul would not be talking about it.
[03:37:17] I wouldn't be talking about it.
[03:37:18] It's that simple.
[03:37:19] If it wasn't a fucking apartheid state doing a genocide, then why would we have issues
[03:37:23] with it?
[03:37:25] That's what these guys constantly try to bring the conversation back to.
[03:37:29] That's the problem, but they can't address that problem.
[03:37:32] So they have to turn around and say, oh, you're just saying that because it's Jews doing it.
[03:37:36] It's like, no, it has nothing to do with Judaism or Jews, dumbass.
[03:37:43] But it doesn't matter because in the mind, like I've already given up on this.
[03:37:47] And I know many of you anti Zionist Jews in the chat probably have given up on your parents
[03:37:52] on this.
[03:37:53] Hopefully you haven't.
[03:37:54] pushing, but like, at this point, it's not lost on me that I think the overwhelming majority
[03:38:01] of Zionists would rather delude themselves into thinking that like, all, like all criticisms
[03:38:06] of Israel actually come from this like, hidden or not so hidden form of anti-Semitism.
[03:38:16] Like, they cannot contend with the reality where it's just not anti-Semitic. Like, it's not coming
[03:38:22] from a place of secret antisemitism. It's crazy. I'll still say what I'm saying. I'll
[03:38:31] still say what I believe, right? And I'm doing it for myself and I'm doing it for my audience.
[03:38:38] I'm doing it so that I'm like still making sure that people understand it's not a course correction
[03:38:44] or, or overcretion or throat clearing so that people don't yell at me, you know?
[03:38:56] I got a lot of people think I cynically bring this shit up.
[03:39:01] My relatives think Booker is anti-Semitic.
[03:39:04] Booker.
[03:39:07] He's like one of the biggest.
[03:39:09] Do he was giving piggyback rise to Rabbi Schmooley, man.
[03:39:12] What the fuck?
[03:39:14] What more can you do Cory Booker literally was at Oxford University giving motherfucking
[03:39:28] piggyback rides the core to the rabbi Shmuelie.
[03:39:37] Look it up.
[03:39:38] Yeah, lost cause.
[03:39:40] Yeah, that's that's not happening.
[03:39:42] Yeah.
[03:39:43] Yeah, look, look, when your parents, they want me to move back, they want to move back
[03:39:48] to Israel, so that's crazy.
[03:39:50] When your parents are saying shit like the New York Times is the most anti-Semitic newspaper
[03:39:54] in America, that's when you know they're like kind of cooked.
[03:39:56] When they're saying like, like that, that's one of those, well, I mean, the Cory Booker
[03:40:07] thing is even worse than that.
[03:40:09] Like, that would be the equivalent, saying Cory Booker is anti-semitic would be the
[03:40:14] media equivalent of like saying the Jewish telegraphic agency is anti-semitic.
[03:40:20] Like, Jerusalem Press is very anti-semitic.
[03:40:26] They have some opinion editorial pieces that are slightly critical of Benjamin and Yaho
[03:40:32] at times and I can't stand it.
[03:40:37] I'm reaching out to anybody who's supported us or didn't support us to come join this
[03:40:50] movement to build a Michigan where our politics are focused on we the people rather than-
[03:40:55] Okay, I'm not gonna lie.
[03:40:56] This is kind of lame.
[03:40:58] I miss Haley Stevens' voice.
[03:41:00] Come on, Abdul will just say like, that's the Michigan way or something.
[03:41:04] You want to appeal to the Stevens heads right myself included obviously I think I hope you
[03:41:10] guys know the reason why Haley Stevens over-reformed is because I put the mules in her direction
[03:41:15] right like we we actually deployed mules on on election night and those mules were actually
[03:41:22] for Haley Stevens were Haley Stevens lovers she was growing on me what gives she was growing
[03:41:27] on me because Israel comes to me in my dreams. What gives? You should take that JTA Jardil
[03:41:35] is what a follow up interview. Yeah, she was actually that JTA reporter seemed much nicer
[03:41:43] than the other guy. And the other guy's like kind of woke too. The other the other JTA
[03:41:50] guy that did that ADL hit piece on me, it made me really sad because I talked over two
[03:41:55] hours and we were yucking it up, okay? And he seemed like kind of woke too. I'd asked some friends
[03:42:02] like that know him, like what his perspective is. And then I think like he got hit with the editorial
[03:42:07] beam where the editor was like, no, you can't use any of this shit. You have to literally
[03:42:14] fucking do the 80 all press piece. We'll stick it to them on the corporations and the special
[03:42:29] interests who dominate Mike Rogers and have dominated our politics for far too long.
[03:42:33] Dr. Osayed, I heard you talk.
[03:42:35] APAC is unlikely to get involved in both Maine and Michigan Rays. We'll probably stake the
[03:42:39] one of them premier times 80 million cash on hand as of the end of June. Oh great, we
[03:42:44] can cook them then. Easy peasy.
[03:42:47] He's a communist. And the polls were wrong again last night when they thought it would
[03:43:01] be a landslide victory for a hater of Jews and a hater of his...
[03:43:06] Yeah, I thought that was called America first big dog. Fuck's going on. Here's Peter by
[03:43:11] our assessment. Let's be clear about what this means. It means APAC will support a candidate
[03:43:14] who will almost certainly help Donald Trump try to overthrow any election that Trump in
[03:43:18] the GOP loses. It means APAC prioritized unconditional support for Israel over the survival of liberal
[03:43:22] democracy in the United States. 100% 100% APAC is just a statement on Wednesday saying they
[03:43:29] He would oppose El Sayed in his radical anti-Israel agenda in November's election.
[03:43:51] Only 80 million would a bunch of brokeies.
[03:43:53] Okay dude, don't test them.
[03:43:58] They blew their load in the primary, yeah, I guess they really fucking like Taley Stevens low key.
[03:44:03] Israel comes to me in my dreams!
[03:44:06] How long until Trump mentions you directly?
[03:44:08] I mean, I get talked about on Fox News every fucking night, so it is, at this point, it's virtually impossible that he doesn't know who I am.
[03:44:15] Or at least, like, hasn't heard my name, let's say.
[03:44:22] Liberals are in the death throes of identity politics.
[03:44:25] people try to call me establishment. I look at that as a slur, particularly as an African-American
[03:44:29] candidate. That's great, dude. That's awesome. First of all, that's awesome. That's awesome.
[03:44:38] Crowley, I'm calling you as your campaign manager, David Crowley, keep posting that
[03:44:46] shit. Okay. Now that right there, that's the good stuff. Okay. I love that this materialized.
[03:44:58] I love that this materialized from a white lady, podcaster, like a chorus podcaster who was like,
[03:45:07] just call black people the n word instead of using the other word establishment.
[03:45:12] And then Jasmine Crockett was like, hell, yes, sis.
[03:45:17] And she highlighted it, gave it the nod, the nod of approval.
[03:45:21] And now it is turned into like a legitimate talking point.
[03:45:25] It's awesome.
[03:45:27] This is so incredibly stupid.
[03:45:31] This is such an incredibly stupid thing to say.
[03:45:36] So, you know, hell yeah, I don't know who that is.
[03:45:43] I'm a kid that grew up in five, three, two, six zip code.
[03:45:48] Yeah.
[03:45:49] Haley Stevens.
[03:45:50] I mean, you would think Haley Stevens was black the way Twitter is talking about it.
[03:45:56] Like literally they were like, oh, you, you defanged black power in the state of Michigan
[03:46:02] is like some of the takes that I saw about Abdul from some of the most insane people in the commentary
[03:46:08] and I was like, bro, she's a white woman. Like, the fuck are you talking about? Like, she's a white
[03:46:14] woman. You're making it seem like she's a fucking civil rights hero. What the fuck are you talking about?
[03:46:24] Like, here's the thing, I don't think people in Detroit perceive it as that.
[03:46:36] Haley Stevens is not a black woman and she's not a Jewish woman.
[03:46:40] She is a white Christian woman, okay?
[03:46:45] What the hell is going on?
[03:46:51] That argument is so interesting because like, okay, so like between Donovan McKinney and Shri
[03:46:56] Thanadar, then Shri is the actual black candidate in the race. Is that what you're,
[03:47:01] is that the fucking idiotic argument we're making? Shri's the one with the establishment backing.
[03:47:08] Like what, what are we doing? Like this is so stupid. Why can't we be normal about this shit?
[03:47:13] My parents was drug addicts and separate from mental health. I work extremely hard to be where
[03:47:18] I am today and so when people try to call me the establishment I look at that as a slur
[03:47:23] particularly as an African American candidate and so I have never ran for office to protect
[03:47:29] the establishment. I've always been here to protect the people. That's my foundation.
[03:47:33] That's what I'm going to continue to do as a county executive and what I'm going to do
[03:47:35] is the governor of the state.
[03:47:37] Oh you're doing the race signs wrong pro-Israeli equals Jewish centers equals black. Therefore
[03:47:41] Stevens black and Jewish. Okay that makes sense. Literally yes. Dario Eliza won't be
[03:47:47] led into the black caucus. Yeah, I saw this. Elisa Avila Chevalier's entry into the black
[03:47:52] caucus isn't a guarantee, not if she doesn't support Hakeem along with other issues one
[03:47:55] senior member told Axios. Another said, DAC absolutely will not be welcomed if she doesn't
[03:48:02] support Hakeem. But she's black. Like this isn't like, is there a precedent for this?
[03:48:14] But are you gonna do the same to Chris Rabb?
[03:48:18] Like not only are these black candidates, but they're from black districts, too
[03:48:22] You know what I mean? It's not like it's not like a fucking situation like you know normally when you have like a Republican
[03:48:28] Like a like a black Republican will come from like an overwhelmingly white district. You know what I mean? Like these are
[03:48:34] These are our black Democrats that are coming from
[03:48:39] Sometimes, overwhelmingly, black dissuers like Chris Rabb is from the blackest district
[03:48:45] in the country, right?
[03:48:47] Chris Rabb represents the blackest district in the country.
[03:48:52] You cannot deny Chris Rabb entry into the congressional black caucus, not only because
[03:48:59] of his activism background, his familial lineage, but also, again, it's important, the districts
[03:49:08] that you come from matter, right? The districts that you come from also matter. Like if, if
[03:49:14] Dalia Liza as a Afro-Latina came from like, I don't know, like an overwhelmingly white
[03:49:20] district, you could just be like, oh, this is a representational pick, but it doesn't
[03:49:23] matter. Like they're not in charge of, they're not, you know, responsible for like a, like
[03:49:31] a black district? Wasn't Tim Scott invited to the CBC? Was he? Like, Tim Scott is the
[03:49:43] example I was thinking of, right? So, Tim Scott is the example I was thinking of. Tim
[03:49:49] Scott and also Byron Donald's, too. They don't come from black districts. They are voted
[03:49:55] by white people like they're voted into office by white people.
[03:50:04] So it makes sense.
[03:50:07] So it makes sense as to he was invited in 2010, but declined.
[03:50:12] That's crazy.
[03:50:21] Because if Chris Maylaw and Dari all refuse to join, if any of them are denied entry to
[03:50:25] black caucus won't be able to deny any of them. I think so too. I'm in Byron's district, it's all
[03:50:31] white races, yeah. It makes sense as to why CBC could be like, okay, you're not, like your district
[03:50:39] is not a black district. You're not, you know, representative of like black issues, that makes
[03:50:47] sense. You can't do that for Dade-Eliza. I guess maybe you could do that for Melot.
[03:50:54] Melot is pretty white too, white and Hispanic. But even then that would be bullshit regardless,
[03:51:03] because these are Democrats. Dade-Eliza literally represents Harlem. That's an insane thing
[03:51:08] to do.
[03:51:09] Donovan McKinney, Chris Rabb, Baudelisa Villachivalier, Malak Keros, these are black candidates who,
[03:51:22] with the exception of Malak, represent black districts.
[03:51:26] Yeah, some of these districts is only 25% black and she's in the CBC.
[03:51:32] Yeah, that's a...
[03:51:35] Okay.
[03:51:36] If your district has 25% black people, that's a, that's a, you know, it's a black enough
[03:51:41] district chatter. 25% is more than double the percentage of black people in the national
[03:51:47] average. Pittsburgh is Pittsburgh can be considered a black district. It's very significant.
[03:52:00] If it's half, if it's less than half, then it's not like a particularly black district.
[03:52:20] If they don't want her, she still have the carne asada invite.
[03:52:26] I'm sorry, but if the establishment of the CBC think they can take on Detroit, Philly,
[03:52:29] Harlem, Denver and more. They're fucking insane. I mean, Denver is...
[03:52:39] DSA needs to reach out to more black communities. They have like no presence with us. Yes. I know. Trust me. I know.
[03:52:47] But I think this election cycle, we've made tremendous inroads as far as DSA representation.
[03:52:54] Again, the candidates that I've worked with closely as you know, as you've seen on this
[03:53:02] broadcast, many of them are black, and the overwhelming majority are not only black but
[03:53:08] also from black districts, including Donovan actually unseating Sretanodar to bring back
[03:53:15] black political representation to a black city.
[03:53:22] It's also kind of, you're not correctly representing Chris Rav's opinion on Jeffries.
[03:53:26] I actually don't know what Chris Rav, yeah, he, okay, he hasn't opposed Hakeem Jeffries.
[03:53:31] Okay, that makes sense.
[03:53:33] I wasn't, I wasn't inferring that he does.
[03:53:36] I was just simply stating that this is like a part of the same coalition.
[03:53:46] Donovan seems like such a nice dude.
[03:53:47] He's so cool.
[03:53:50] I love him.
[03:54:00] I love all the candidates that we work with this kid this season, you know,
[03:54:04] it's fucking awesome.
[03:54:05] they're so what a treat it's been. He hasn't said he'll support Jeffries either. He said
[03:54:11] he'll see what his options are and then decide. Yeah.
[03:54:13] You're right about Colorado's first district is only 9% black. That's actually more that's
[03:54:24] a higher percentage of black people in Colorado one than I thought. I thought it was like
[03:54:29] 3 percent.
[03:54:59] People on Reddit love the energy.
[03:55:13] Donahue McKinney, D.S.A.
[03:55:14] Andorra's House Canada for Michigan's 13th District.
[03:55:17] He's the man.
[03:55:22] Um, where were we?
[03:55:27] Um, where were we? Oh, we were talking about establishment equals black or establishment equals slur
[03:55:35] All right, I'm gonna skip the rest of this. Let's see what this is. Okay. Last question for you, Richard
[03:55:39] Do you think that the narrowness of the race the fact that the margin has gotten small?
[03:55:47] Do you worry that that is so funny that all these guys
[03:55:52] Rube ass Abdul about you at what?
[03:55:54] What? 340? Okay, I'll hear what he had to say about the pool party shit.
[03:56:02] Let's see what he said about the pool party rather than on the corporations and the special
[03:56:16] interests. I'm going to do John Federman after this.
[03:56:19] Dominate Mike Rogers and have dominated our politics for far too long.
[03:56:22] I heard you talk a moment ago about your Jewish brothers and sisters, as you said, and those
[03:56:28] you'd like to include in this fight forward.
[03:56:30] There are many Democrats at the-
[03:56:32] Rup, don't do it.
[03:56:33] Rup.
[03:56:34] Don't do me like this.
[03:56:36] Rup.
[03:56:37] Rup, don't do me like this.
[03:56:45] This hour, who, as you see on social media and elsewhere, are very concerned about the
[03:56:49] direction of the party under your leadership as a Senate candidate.
[03:56:54] And the reason is because some of the supporters you've surrounded yourself with and who surrounded
[03:56:58] themselves with you.
[03:56:59] What do you tell someone who sees a Hassan piker show up here in Detroit at a pool party
[03:57:04] and says, wait a minute here.
[03:57:05] I thought Dr Abdul Sayed, I'll say it was for no, dude, Roop.
[03:57:13] Roop.
[03:57:14] Why you got to do me like this, Roop?
[03:57:16] I thought we had something.
[03:57:20] All of us, what do you talk about when we see those followers?
[03:57:23] Well, I'm grateful for the majority of Democratic voters who gave us their vote.
[03:57:28] But I also know that there is a large minority who didn't.
[03:57:32] And what I'll tell you is that my job is to reach out to as many people as I possibly
[03:57:35] can to have a conversation about who we are and who we want to be.
[03:57:38] Now, just because you might campaign or somebody doesn't mean that you want to write everything
[03:57:41] that they've said.
[03:57:42] But I do think it's important for us to be reaching out to folks who can get access to
[03:57:49] a number of voters who might be thinking in different ways about where we want to go.
[03:57:53] We're building a broad based tent movement to get money out of-
[03:57:57] I think one of the best things Abdul Qassay in moments like this is to be like, Hassan
[03:58:00] is a socialist, I'm not.
[03:58:03] We have our disagreements there, but that's what democracy is about.
[03:58:08] Democracy is complicated.
[03:58:11] going to be some friction at times. But ultimately, this diversity of thought is how we arrive
[03:58:19] at the best possible outcome for as many people as possible. And that's the American
[03:58:24] way. And that's the Michigan way. Like he could say something like that, you know what
[03:58:28] I mean? Because it's true. Like, ultimately, I like in this circumstance, again, expectations
[03:58:36] are not for him to be like, Oh, dude, like a love a song. It's not going to happen. It's
[03:58:41] stupid to do that. So, I think, because that's, it's true. That is true. We have our disagreements,
[03:58:51] right? And I think a good point, a salient point there would be for him to say, Hasan's
[03:58:58] a socialist, I'm not, I'm a capitalist. We've had our disagreements on that front. Because
[03:59:04] that's a real, that is a real point of disagreement between us. And it's actually a good one for
[03:59:11] him to address if he's worried about the moniker of socialism anyway. You know what I mean?
[03:59:29] What is this?
[03:59:30] New, Will Lawrence won a critical Demprimer in a swinghouse distribution after a device
[03:59:37] through a fight on whether he can bring Dems together and appeal to swing voters in his
[03:59:40] progressive view.
[03:59:41] Says he's not a DSA member, so when he leave DSA, in the last month I let my membership
[03:59:45] lapse.
[03:59:46] So how does he differ from the socialists?
[03:59:48] Oh God.
[03:59:51] That's kind of whack.
[03:59:57] He's using you for your reach for votes.
[04:00:07] Yeah I know.
[04:00:23] I don't like I'll be honest when when someone is like a dsa member and they fucking
[04:00:29] Let it lapse and then they say they let it lapse like I always
[04:00:35] Oh, it's not a good move man. It just makes you look weak. It's just not a good move like with Abdul
[04:00:41] He was never dsa. He's never said he's a socialist. So that's different. You know what I mean
[04:00:46] But that was a that was definitely an issue with Julie Gonzalez as well. It's literally the same
[04:00:53] as like apologizing for your past beliefs. It just makes you look wishy washy. You would literally do
[04:01:01] you would literally do better. It's not because the DSA is like this unbelievably powerful force
[04:01:06] because I don't know how prominent DSA is in his. I don't know how prominent DSA is in his
[04:01:13] district, right? So I don't know how much of an opportunity you have, but I'm not even talking
[04:01:19] about like the door knocking capabilities of DSA. I'm talking specifically about what this
[04:01:25] signals to voters broadly. I genuinely think that you would do better to be like, yeah,
[04:01:35] I'm a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. It's not like I don't, you know,
[04:01:41] the national platform is voted on by the entire organization. There are things in it that I
[04:01:46] agree with, things in it that, you know, I don't fully subscribe to, but ultimately it doesn't
[04:01:51] matter, right? Like the Democratic Party that I am, you know, now the candidate for. There's
[04:01:57] plenty of things that I don't agree with the rest of the Democratic Party, but that's, you know,
[04:02:01] I care about my district. You know, I care about my district first and foremost. I care about
[04:02:06] representing my district. So that's what I'm choosing to do. That's the best, most effective way to
[04:02:13] that's the best and most effective way to respond to it. Because you're going to still get called a
[04:02:19] DSA guy. And then on top of that, they're going to say you're like, it's going to look phony.
[04:02:24] You're going to look phony a little bit. You're going to look like you got caught. You got caught
[04:02:28] You do doing a oopsie you got caught doing something embarrassing like you were bad
[04:02:33] He literally started his chapter in his house. They're gonna time to do say no matter what he says might as well own it
[04:03:03] So, politics for money and pockets passed Medicare for all.
[04:03:14] And I know that there are a lot of different conversations that need to be had.
[04:03:18] So you know, on the one hand, I might go on Fox News and talk.
[04:03:22] He started to sunrise and his DSA chapter with the fuck is his pivot then?
[04:03:25] I don't know.
[04:03:26] The Fox and friends, even if I might disagree with what those hosts say, because I know
[04:03:30] there might be someone there in the audience who might agree with me and I want to make
[04:03:33] sure that they've heard my message. Similarly, I'm reaching out to all kinds of podcast
[04:03:38] hosts and streamers to have those conversations.
[04:03:42] Yeah
[04:03:44] No more his long questions in this. Okay
[04:03:46] This is a high-profile victory for this lady. Oh
[04:03:52] My god already back to LA when you sleep I didn't
[04:03:56] This is why we don't endorse DSA white man true dude actually real true
[04:04:07] Did you see that may love watches FD yeah
[04:04:09] Yeah, everybody watches FD, including Killer Mike.
[04:04:16] I missed the Oblu coverage, but does this narrow win change your calculation of Democratic
[04:04:27] candidate being 100% anti-Israel?
[04:04:29] Fuck no.
[04:04:30] What?
[04:04:31] Fuck no.
[04:04:33] Are you kidding me?
[04:04:35] Absolute fucking Lulie not.
[04:04:37] You think a single...
[04:04:38] with the exception of like some Haley Stevens, like Ryder Dyers, because there's always going
[04:04:47] to be like ultra Zionists in every district, you know?
[04:04:52] I don't think 90% of Haley Stevens voters voted for Haley Stevens because they were
[04:05:00] like, she's going to be, she's going to fucking dream about Israel.
[04:05:05] I think 90% of Haley Stevens voters voted for her because of the ads, Obama endorsement,
[04:05:13] fake Obama endorsement, Gresham Whitmer endorsement, Gary Peters endorsement, mostly Gresham Whitmer
[04:05:18] and Obama, and like key endorsements from the black political machine in Wayne County,
[04:05:27] Detroit, and also, you know, fucking $70 million of ad spend.
[04:05:39] There is not a single, first of all, there wasn't a single ad that tied Haley Stevens
[04:05:43] to Israel.
[04:05:45] Like imagine spending $70 million in ads, and not a single dollar goes to an ad that
[04:05:53] says Haley Stevens will defend Israel.
[04:05:57] You know what I mean?
[04:05:58] Not a single one.
[04:06:00] There's not even a, there were barely ads that said Abdulla al-Sayed will destroy Israel.
[04:06:05] They were mostly just saying he's a terrorist because of 9-11 and stuff.
[04:06:10] progressive wing of the Democrats, Matt, an insurgent outsider has beaten a centrist
[04:06:32] congresswoman whose campaign received tens of millions from pro-Israel groups.
[04:06:38] We spoke to Abdul al-Sayed earlier this week and he told me that his party will need to
[04:06:43] pay close attention to what's happened here, because he's managed to tap into a wave of
[04:06:48] anti-establishment sentiment. He's managed to energise voters, particularly over the
[04:06:53] issue of Israel's actions in Gaza. It's an issue that the Democrats will have to address
[04:06:58] as they head into those all-important November midterms.
[04:07:02] The left-wing political outsider, who is just one of bruising and brutal round within his
[04:07:11] own party.
[04:07:14] What a race, you know, in the words of Muhammad Ali, we shook up the world.
[04:07:18] For many Democrats, this progressive insurgent represents the change that's needed within
[04:07:22] their party.
[04:07:23] Starting in moments when people aren't even paying attention to an election, but are paying
[04:07:27] attention to the price of gas, and the price of groceries, and the price of housing, and
[04:07:30] the price of healthcare.
[04:07:31] This morning, this new ad finally endorsing al-Sayed, from the Senate Majority Pack, which
[04:07:39] represents the party's mainstream establishment.
[04:07:47] But they hadn't believed in the Muslim candidate until he was declared a winner.
[04:07:51] Dude, I love that ad so much. Oh my God.
[04:08:00] So good.
[04:08:02] Look at how favored by the whites, Abdul is. Look at how not dangerous Abdul is.
[04:08:10] God, so many white people love to see it.
[04:08:13] Democrats Senate leader had this to say about the popularity of the progressives.
[04:08:17] We are a big tent party, and being a big tent party is a strength, not a weakness.
[04:08:24] The moderates had originally chosen to bank this woman, our side's opponent Haley Stevens,
[04:08:29] in what had become a proxy fight about the future direction of the party.
[04:08:34] We knew that this was going to be a close race.
[04:08:38] Thank you, friends!
[04:08:40] And it was incredibly close.
[04:08:42] Stevens narrowly losing, despite having received more than $30 million in funding from APAC,
[04:08:50] the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
[04:08:53] This became a focal point of the campaign, al-Said connecting with the concerns of younger
[04:08:58] and Arab voters in particular about Israel's actions in Gaza.
[04:09:03] It's an issue that has split the Democrats.
[04:09:05] Support for Israel is falling in the party.
[04:09:08] has left some Jewish voters feeling alienated and today Al-Sayid addressed that divide.
[04:09:13] And to all of my sisters and brothers of the Jewish faith or any faith at all or no faith
[04:09:19] at all, I want you to know that my commitment to your safety, my commitment to Jewish safety
[04:09:24] is the same commitment that I have to the safety of my own daughters.
[04:09:29] The Democrats need to win this seat in November's general election if they're to retake the
[04:09:34] Senate, and Al-Said will now have to take on a Republican candidate backed by Donald
[04:09:39] Trump.
[04:09:40] Could he win?
[04:09:41] Well, today the President posted his thoughts.
[04:09:44] Wayne County, Michigan is one of the most corrupt voting areas in the United States,
[04:09:49] if not the world.
[04:09:50] It is strictly third world.
[04:09:52] And then, going back to his repeated theme of fraudulent elections, he added, don't discount
[04:09:57] all of those fake mail-in ballots that will surprisingly show up at the last moment.
[04:10:03] ready for another rigged election.
[04:10:06] As well as being called a radical communist, al-Sayed has also faced constant commentary
[04:10:11] from opponents about his Muslim background and name.
[04:10:15] My name is not raising your gas prices.
[04:10:18] My name is not taking us to war.
[04:10:20] My name is not the reason you can't afford to groceries.
[04:10:24] If he wins in November, which won't be easy, this Michigan-born son of Egyptian immigrants
[04:10:29] will become the nation's first Muslim senator.
[04:10:33] We're joining me now as the democratic strategist,
[04:10:35] Jim Kessler, who spent decades on Capitol Hill
[04:10:38] and worked for the House minority,
[04:10:39] either Chuck Schumer, who he saw in that piece.
[04:10:44] And Dylan Wegele, a state representative for Michigan,
[04:10:47] who describes himself.
[04:10:48] Let's go.
[04:10:49] Let's go, go at it.
[04:10:51] As a democratic socialist, as you can see from his hat.
[04:10:54] Let me start with you, Jim.
[04:10:55] I mean, as Chuck Schumer, your former boss said,
[04:10:58] you're a big ten party but there's trouble in the tent
[04:11:04] yes so look i i i i think
[04:11:06] at the well-said
[04:11:09] brandon inspiring rates he won this is a seat that we need to keep
[04:11:14] uh... there's a lot of warning signs
[04:11:16] in that election last night it was a lot
[04:11:18] yeah and they had the fucking third-way dickhead
[04:11:21] but closer than people thought
[04:11:23] one by about fifteen thousand votes people thought he was going to win by
[04:11:26] 150,000 votes at least. And he's got work to do. He's got work to do to hold that seat.
[04:11:33] This is like, I don't appreciate how these guys make it seem like they are representative
[04:11:41] of any base whatsoever. Like Haley Stevens voters did not vote for Haley Stevens policies.
[04:11:50] So Abdul asked that like changes policies around in the direction of Haley Stevens.
[04:11:54] And the greatest evidence of this is the $70 million of ad spend that did not mention Israel
[04:12:00] one fucking time. So like there's nothing he needs to moderate on. He just needs to
[04:12:05] go to those voters and communicate to them what he actually represents, uh, and, and
[04:12:10] talk to them about how he's going to better represent them.
[04:12:14] Like Haley Steven, the, when these guys talk about like, Oh, well, he's got to come to
[04:12:18] us. He's got to kiss the ring. He's got to do this and that. Yeah. If there was a real
[04:12:23] constituency, like the only constituency, which isn't like big enough to make a dent
[04:12:31] demographically that Abdul needs to make enros with is the Jewish Michiganders who are critical
[04:12:40] of Israel to a certain degree, but like still Zionists is still worried. You know what I mean?
[04:12:48] Yeah. Can you imagine the media telling Republicans to stay away from Fox News
[04:12:52] his podcast or talk radio yeah I just like this shit makes me so fucking mad
[04:12:58] I'm gonna retweet to something similar as well
[04:13:08] and contentious
[04:13:22] from my much younger audience of Democrats and independent.
[04:13:50] It's just like, it's so fucking, it's so strange.
[04:13:54] Like, I genuinely don't understand it.
[04:13:56] Like, he should go everywhere.
[04:13:57] What are we doing?
[04:13:58] This was the whole problem with Kamala Harris.
[04:14:06] This was the whole fucking issue with Kamala Harris.
[04:14:08] What are we doing?
[04:14:11] There's no need for moderation.
[04:14:13] There's no need for him to like shy away
[04:14:14] from going on different platforms, okay?
[04:14:16] Would you say that the closeness of Michigan with Haley Stevens and Abdul would indicate
[04:14:34] that Michigan may not be ready for change thoughts?
[04:14:36] No, I wouldn't say that.
[04:14:37] Why would I say that?
[04:14:39] It is an unbelievably stupid assessment.
[04:14:43] The reason why it's an unbelievably stupid assessment is because he did that when he
[04:14:48] was being outspent.
[04:14:50] 10 to 1, 10 to 1, 10 to 1.
[04:14:55] This has never happened in the fucking history of American politics.
[04:15:01] 11 to 1, 64 million dollars were spent against him with a fake Obama endorsement.
[04:15:13] Christ. Wake up, everybody, please, please, wake up. Did Abdul Al-Sahed actually lose
[04:15:27] by winning? No, he didn't. He won by winning.
[04:15:57] I think I'll do should only go on CNN and then also just take on Haley Stephens is no
[04:16:13] I'm not gonna say that then people are gonna say you're dunking on Haley Stephens off fuck
[04:16:18] this is the worst aspect of like being associated with the campaign is just like I have to fucking
[04:16:24] you know, maybe dial back some of the things that I say.
[04:16:29] You know, so I'm not going to say it.
[04:16:34] I was going to say maybe Abdul should take on Hayley Stevens's policy platform
[04:16:37] and just only go on CNN and all this shit.
[04:16:40] That's ultimately what they want.
[04:16:45] That's also fake now.
[04:16:49] I mean, I'm not, I'm not fake.
[04:16:51] I'm just telling you.
[04:16:52] I, I understand the necessity of consolidating support behind Abdul El Sayed.
[04:17:03] So I don't want to fucking give another opportunity for the annoying shit libs in the consultant class to turn around and be like, oh my God, see he's attacking.
[04:17:14] He's attacking Hailey Stevens, who the base clearly loves.
[04:17:20] We brought the youth vote out.
[04:17:48] brought the youth vote out and the ground game was able to defeat 70 million dollars.
[04:18:10] I have my own separate media platform.
[04:18:18] Abdul should go on all media and even convince Republicans if he can.
[04:18:33] That's how you win elections.
[04:18:40] Who do you think are worse?
[04:18:52] Never Trump Republicans or never DSA Democrats?
[04:18:55] What?
[04:18:57] Never Trump Republicans or never DSA Democrats?
[04:19:08] I just like, like I am in the middle here.
[04:19:16] I'm in the middle here where it's like,
[04:19:17] he doesn't have to come on my stream to win.
[04:19:21] Okay, he doesn't have to come on my stream to win,
[04:19:24] but I will say this.
[04:19:27] He should definitely go on all outlets.
[04:19:29] You know what I mean?
[04:19:30] He should go on all outlets.
[04:19:31] It would be a mistake not to.
[04:19:34] He, Abdul's going on all outlets,
[04:19:36] all media outlets, contentious media as well.
[04:19:39] And he should win the disaffected,
[04:19:41] disillusioned younger voters over,
[04:19:43] which, you know, some of which are in my community, of course.
[04:19:46] And he should go on Joe Rogan.
[04:19:49] He should go and captivate voters
[04:19:55] that are Republican, triple Trump voters.
[04:19:58] Like that's what you gotta do to win.
[04:20:02] So it's very stupid when people are like,
[04:20:04] no, you shouldn't go on, you can go on Fox News,
[04:20:06] But you can't go on a song like the fuck are you talking about you fucking idiot?
[04:20:10] What's wrong with you?
[04:20:28] Democrats are so stupid.
[04:20:32] Very frustrating.
[04:20:33] The democrat consultant sir just like
[04:20:36] Incredibly dumb. Um, this whole piece is oozing with snark and condensation ideological assertions, but this is false
[04:20:42] L sad did not perform best with wealthier voters. He lost the poorest and wealthiest voters his base's middle-income voters see chart via wapo
[04:20:51] Okay
[04:20:54] Yeah, he he cooked from 65 to 95 k with 85 to 95 k being his best
[04:21:03] where Haley Stevens got the majority with under CC5K and also the majority with 95K+.
[04:21:14] This is the wheelhouse of Zohran Kwame Mamdani.
[04:21:21] Larra citing strategist also falsely presents mainstream opinionist fringe, 50% of American
[04:21:26] to support abolishing ICE versus who 39% opposed doing so.
[04:21:33] And 50% of Americans say Israel's committee
[04:21:35] is genocide in Gaza versus 35% who disagree.
[04:21:40] Opposition to ICE in Israel are, of course, completely
[04:21:42] mainstream opinions among US voters,
[04:21:44] but they're not mainstream opinion in the halls of power.
[04:21:46] So they are presented as unpopular,
[04:21:48] despite polls showing that they are indeed
[04:21:50] supported by voters.
[04:21:51] Exactly.
[04:21:51] This is all very dumb because Abdul got a lot of votes from those counties that turned
[04:21:59] out was very high saying he isn't supported by low-income places.
[04:22:01] This should have been stupid.
[04:22:02] Yeah, I know.
[04:22:03] I know.
[04:22:04] But it wasn't his strongest showing.
[04:22:09] Here are the full WAPO numbers.
[04:22:11] Also despite discourse, Democrats in high-income areas did not back Abdul.
[04:22:14] I'll say that he dominated in the most educated counties but Stevens won the richest counties
[04:22:17] and the poorest.
[04:22:18] AES took the middle-income places.
[04:22:22] LSE had obviously didn't put up burning numbers in rural Michigan, but he held his own in
[04:22:25] small town in rural counties and only lost suburban counties to Stevens by five points.
[04:22:29] That plus total dominance in Ann Arbor Grand Rapids, et cetera, was enough for the win.
[04:22:35] Also surprising, absolutely nobody, younger Democrats love progressives.
[04:22:38] Of course we know that.
[04:22:42] said, dominated in counties of the most young adults.
[04:22:48] Stevens did better in counties with significant black populations, but
[04:22:51] still only won Wayne by about six points less than she needed, obviously.
[04:23:00] To be fair, one of the two high-income counties in Oakland with Stevens didn't
[04:23:03] do all that well in, in my opinion, considering it was her home turf, but I
[04:23:06] do think this is often true. There's an upside down U on the
[04:23:10] the precinct level for x-axis wealth, y-axis, AES support, which I'm working on right now.
[04:23:25] Why do the poorest who would benefit most from socialism vote for the opposite of socialism
[04:23:29] and for more poverty and struggle? So long, I don't know how to get into that right now. I mean,
[04:23:37] It's, it's, poor people by and large are too busy making ends meet and are perhaps a little
[04:23:46] bit more susceptible to propaganda or misinformation.
[04:23:53] More likely to be, be anxious about their futures.
[04:24:00] likely to fall victim to racialized agitation. That's it.
[04:24:16] You weren't lying, they purchased all-
[04:24:17] Haley Stevens! You were the-
[04:24:20] Haley Stevens, you're there!
[04:24:22] Haley Stevens, you're there!
[04:24:24] How did Donald Trump-
[04:24:25] STOP!
[04:24:27] Haley Stevens-
[04:24:27] STOP!
[04:24:29] Haley Stevens-
[04:24:30] Stop it!
[04:24:31] Haley Stevens-
[04:24:32] Stop!
[04:24:33] As county-
[04:24:35] What the fuck?
[04:24:38] A commission.
[04:24:38] AHHHHH!
[04:24:39] Born, raised-
[04:24:42] Haley Stevens, you're-
[04:24:43] AHHHHH!
[04:24:44] How did Donald Trump win-
[04:24:45] OHHHHHHHHH
[04:24:47] Haley Stevens was there
[04:24:48] OHHHHHHHHH
[04:24:49] Haley!
[04:24:49] She's growing up. She's growing on me
[04:24:53] She's growing on me. She's growing on me. She's growing on me. Haley Stevens is growing on me
[04:25:01] Gitmo has nothing on this
[04:25:04] Uh-huh
[04:25:06] Yeah, I live in Michigan these with as I was getting on YouTube and radio constantly I heard I heard from the people on the ground
[04:25:12] They were really fucking annoyed
[04:25:14] Let's see what Jonathan Greenblatt had to say. I'm sure he has a lot of thoughts on this race.
[04:25:18] Across the state of Michigan, I've seen the results come in from the Democratic primary.
[04:25:25] Throughout the campaign, ADL has called out nominee Abdul al-Sayed for peddling in ex-Semitic tropes.
[04:25:33] Saying things like, the only reason that people support the state of Israel is money.
[04:25:39] or for campaigning with notorious bigot, Hassan Piker.
[04:25:43] Campaign trail rhetoric and actions and clear signals
[04:25:46] about what a person believes
[04:25:48] and what a political party thinks is permissible.
[04:25:51] As ADL works to protect, advocate and educate
[04:25:56] in order to serve the Jewish community,
[04:25:59] fight anti-Semitism and hate of all kinds.
[04:26:02] We will continue to call out politicians and parties
[04:26:06] the traffic and anti-Semitism that dress up bigotry
[04:26:10] with the disguise of social justice,
[04:26:13] we are not going to stop.
[04:26:16] And we will keep calling on political leaders
[04:26:18] and candidates from both parties to reject anti-Semitism
[04:26:22] and to commit to combating it whenever and wherever it occurs.
[04:26:26] This scary thing happened to her last night.
[04:26:37] Last night at Al-Sahid's watch party I was able to overheat through conversations with
[04:26:40] us.
[04:26:41] All three were about Jews' Israel or the Israel Defense Forces.
[04:26:44] Although Al-Sahid has often brushed out the focus of his anti-Israel politics as media-driven
[04:26:47] as it distates for Jewish nation posts through the theater last night, at one point I was
[04:26:51] able to hear three conversations taking place all around me.
[04:26:54] about Jews Israel or the Israel Defense Force to my left a man remarked that a lot of white
[04:26:57] people support El Sa'ed because they didn't want to use their money to kill babies.
[04:27:01] Another man shouted a woman's ear making his case that the A-Pack a pro-Israel lobbying
[04:27:04] group is just supported by Christian Zionists as American Jews.
[04:27:09] Wait!
[04:27:10] Shocking!
[04:27:11] I loved it!
[04:27:12] I thought that she was going to at least like do us the dignity and say that like she
[04:27:16] heard something anti-Semitic.
[04:27:19] So what, this was the wokeest party of all time, where people were talking about factually
[04:27:24] accurate things that they were frustrated by?
[04:27:27] Like what are we?
[04:27:36] One man had the audacity to say, I love my Jewish brothers and sisters, but I can't stand
[04:27:42] the nation state of Israel and how it cynically ties itself to Judaism, making it a much less
[04:27:48] safe for my Jewish friends. Making it a much less space for my Jewish friends who have nothing to do
[04:27:55] with Israel. I was horrified. They were saying it Islamically.
[04:28:10] Missed you Mr. Jihad. Excuse me. Dr. Jihad.
[04:28:18] I'm skipping the rest of the shit, so my colleague and friend, Congresswoman Hailey Stevens,
[04:28:34] It's giving minutes.
[04:28:35] But right now, as bitter and as divisive and as cynical as the campaign against us might
[04:28:42] have been, I want us to realize that there is so much more that unites us now.
[04:28:48] Because the campaign that Mike Rogers and Donald Trump and their GOP MAGA allies are
[04:28:55] launching is already more bitter.
[04:28:59] All you gotta do is look at the ads, you're already watching on TV, started today.
[04:29:03] You know, they think that you want to use my whole name against me.
[04:29:06] Mike, listen, man, if you can't say the name, it's Abdurrahman, keep the name out your damn mouth.
[04:29:10] I'd be happy to give you lessons.
[04:29:18] But they understand that the only way that they think they can win is to drag us into the mud,
[04:29:24] to believe the worst about each other, to believe that what divides us is bigger than what unites us.
[04:29:30] They want us to think that the reason some of us ain't got is because of other people
[04:29:35] got.
[04:29:36] But it turns out that the reason so many of us ain't got is because of the system that
[04:29:40] has corrupted our politics to take it away from us.
[04:29:43] And that is the thing that we are taking on now.
[04:29:46] That move here to get money out of politics, put money in your pocket, pass Medicare for
[04:29:50] all, it is a big movement.
[04:29:52] So if you supported me or you did not support me, if you voted for Vice President Harris
[04:29:57] in 2024 or you're voted for Donald Trump if you believe like me, that you ought to be
[04:30:02] able to afford your groceries if you believe like me.
[04:30:05] Wow, is Abdel El-Sayed a reactionary Republican but somehow bad, as opposed to when we try
[04:30:12] to win votes as centrist Democrats by hugging and kissing Liz Cheney?
[04:30:20] Abdel El-Sayed is very divisive.
[04:30:23] He said you should vote for me even if you voted for Donald Trump.
[04:30:26] knows you're not supposed to say that only we get to try to win the Republican
[04:30:31] voters over and of course that we get to do that by being like Republicans and
[04:30:36] we of course fail we fail to do so
[04:30:44] that you ought to be able to afford your home if you believe like me that your
[04:30:49] tax dollars ought to be invested in you rather than sent somewhere else if you
[04:30:53] believe like me that a government of the people by the people and for the people
[04:30:59] is our birthright in this country if you believe like me that we have a
[04:31:04] responsibility to stand up and walk with our union so that everybody has
[04:31:07] collected bargaining rights in this country if you believe like me that you
[04:31:12] ought to have the guarantee of good health care in this country without some
[04:31:16] corporation trying to tell you what you cannot have and should not fight for I
[04:31:20] I hope that you'll join this movement now so for you you could agree with oh hell yeah I
[04:31:29] Cannot believe John Stuart interviewed this fucking ogre I
[04:31:35] Cannot believe that the ogre put on a suit not for Benjamin Netanyahu for once but instead for Johnny boy Johnny Stewart
[04:31:43] I'm 90%, but Israel is the red line. Absolutely. Israel for me, like I can't ever turn my...
[04:31:52] That's insane, man. Why are you saying that out loud is what I would say if I thought that he
[04:31:57] had working brain cells, but he doesn't. So that's why he's saying dumb shit like this.
[04:32:00] I backed Israel after where it's at. So, and I mean no disrespect on this, but that is not
[04:32:07] our country. You're saying that these candidates may have great ideas for our economy. They may
[04:32:13] may want to do the exact same thing you want to do in terms of getting money out of politics.
[04:32:17] They may want to increase the social safety net. They may want to, uh, uh, change the
[04:32:23] balance of power from capital back to labor. But if they don't agree with you on Israel,
[04:32:31] you don't want them in your party.
[04:32:32] Well, at some point you gotta realize it's not your party, big dog. Like that's crazy.
[04:32:39] Okay, okay, okay. Israel approval ratings in the Democratic Party is the same as being like,
[04:32:45] you know, uh, uh, anti-choice, okay, being pro-life. Like, could you imagine Henry Quay are going on,
[04:32:53] like, CNN and being like, yeah, if a Democrat is for abortion, then they need to get the fuck out
[04:33:00] of my party. If a Democrat wants to allow abortions, then they need to get the fuck out of my party,
[04:33:09] which is the obviously like anti-abortion party. That's crazy. You can't be saying stuff like that.
[04:33:16] No one will take you seriously. The only thing you can say that about is Israel, obviously, because
[04:33:21] you know people are well up until recently people had uh uh people had to be a lot more
[04:33:29] careful about how they criticize Israel because you know apac could dump shit ton of shit ton of
[04:33:37] money well i don't know who you're referencing to specifically no i'm i'm referencing what you just
[04:33:43] said name so in other words syed or aoc or bernie sanders i assume you agree with a lot of what
[04:33:51] they say economically. No, he doesn't. And what I'm saying is, like, if you are a DSA member,
[04:33:57] if you are a member of a specific political party, run under your own banner. And now, I think Bill
[04:34:05] Marr said something very insightful. He said, you know, the DSA are colonizing, colonizing the
[04:34:10] Democratic Party. So just be Democrats if you're going to run under the Democratic Party for that.
[04:34:17] Why have a DSA part?
[04:34:19] Bill Maher has never said anything insightful.
[04:34:21] I mean, you're I guess it makes sense to fucking brain dead.
[04:34:27] Bernie on Weatherhill indoors.
[04:34:29] I don't think so. No.
[04:34:31] I noticed you haven't.
[04:34:33] No, Bernie, do it.
[04:34:36] Fucking do it.
[04:34:39] I tried.
[04:34:43] He's old. He's old.
[04:34:44] He don't got internet.
[04:34:46] You don't got internet. All right, let's finish the job for everything and then we'll look at party for overall
[04:34:51] So run on that and you all understand. It's just an organization. It's not we have a two-party system
[04:34:56] We don't it's like the freedom caucus in the republican party. There are you know, there's randy fine and ogles and all these nut bags
[04:35:05] That are also part of an area and republicans. I'm sure may not agree with all of them on all kinds of things
[04:35:11] But there is no other
[04:35:13] Party I guess you could you could try it, but my point is if you don't disagree with them on a lot of things
[04:35:20] Why not use some of that energy and even like?
[04:35:23] Maldonni in New York is DSA
[04:35:25] But there are things in the DSA platform that he disagrees with and I'm assuming there's probably things in the Democratic platform
[04:35:32] That you might disagree with but you don't disavow the entire thing. You're literally saying
[04:35:37] It's all we can all have discussions except when it comes to Israel, which is not America
[04:35:45] It seems like a weird line to draw
[04:35:48] Well, so then what's it well without now? I don't think that's weird
[04:35:52] I think I have okay this week of of
[04:35:55] Conversations where John Federman talks to prominent American Jews in the media and those prominent American Jews in the media keep going dude
[04:36:03] You're a little too obsessed with Israel. What the fuck is going on with that has been hilarious because
[04:36:11] This isn't the only time John Federman has been approached
[04:36:15] He went on Wolf Blitzer and Wolf Blitzer said the exact same thing now John
[04:36:22] John Stewart is
[04:36:24] Jewish
[04:36:25] Always been Israel critical, right? Always
[04:36:28] Wolf Blitzer, on the other hand, used to be the spokesperson for A-PAC.
[04:36:35] Okay? Literally, Wolf Blitzer was the spokesperson for A-PAC.
[04:36:43] And even Wolf was like,
[04:36:45] Why are you doing this insane red line on fucking Israel?
[04:36:51] This doesn't make any sense.
[04:36:54] Where is this coming from?
[04:36:56] I think what history demonstrates is that when people or government or people turn their back to the Jewish community things and really badly, and it's a dangerous...
[04:37:07] The Jewish community in Israel are not the same thing, brother man. That is not the same thing.
[04:37:13] No, no, no. It's like, hey, it's like if I have to pick a side for after 10, 7 and after I ran, you know, I'm always going to stand with Israel.
[04:37:23] always gonna vote and support whatever that's necessary to predict themselves and to prosecute
[04:37:28] Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran too.
[04:37:30] There are people in Netanyahu's cabinet who have...
[04:37:34] Dude, again, okay, let's go to Wolf Blitzer real quick.
[04:37:38] This is not one but two prominent Jews in American media literally calling out John
[04:37:46] Federman's level of fealty to Israel.
[04:37:50] It's so funny.
[04:37:52] Like, I'm sorry, dude, like, well blitzer, again, apex was like, don't you think it's
[04:37:58] kind of weird?
[04:37:59] Why is Israel another country?
[04:38:01] Your red line right now, this is what your critics are saying, rather than a domestic
[04:38:05] issue that impacts Americans.
[04:38:12] He's like, what?
[04:38:18] What are you talking about?
[04:38:20] Why is, why is Israel so important? Like, why isn't, why isn't it like healthcare or something?
[04:38:24] I don't know. Something that like your district, your state cares about.
[04:38:27] Yeah, absolutely. And, and I agree with a lot of Democrats too. And then when you migrate
[04:38:34] into these extreme kinds of views and embrace the kinds of people that you should really
[04:38:39] be considered toxic. So of course, I'm entitled to my opinion. And if you're proud to campaign
[04:38:45] with those individuals, great. That's, that's really up to them.
[04:38:48] That wasn't a question dumbass. By the way, one thing I noticed, anytime John Federman
[04:38:58] appears on a news network that isn't fucking Fox News, anytime John Federman appears on
[04:39:06] a network that isn't Fox News, that's like really babying him and like trying to get
[04:39:11] him to say whatever deranged thing he's about to say. Okay. He just short circuits, but
[04:39:18] He is genuinely incapable of responding to like normal questions.
[04:39:23] I don't know if like Fox News gives them the questions ahead of time, so he can like write
[04:39:29] his responses.
[04:39:30] But it's very funny that there just, it's a sad state of affairs really.
[04:39:36] It's funny, but it's also kind of sad that this is a fucking senator and he's so visibly
[04:39:42] brain damaged.
[04:39:44] It is unbelievable that we have a motherfucking senator, I mean half of our senators are geriatric
[04:39:52] and this one's at least like age appropriate, but he is like visibly brain damaged.
[04:39:57] It's crazy.
[04:40:00] He can't speak man, it's unbelievable.
[04:40:02] This is the most, this is the wealthiest nation on earth and our last two presidents
[04:40:08] shat in their fucking diapers and we got a bunch of senators who are also doing the same
[04:40:13] thing and then another one whose brain is leaking out of his ear now you know I
[04:40:17] called trash a planner I thought that he's he is a real problem and now why
[04:40:24] people seem to be okay with it you know why why was why was why was why was why
[04:40:29] was Bernie Sanders okay with the guy and then he was already the Nazi tattoo
[04:40:34] and after all the allegations of roughing up his ex-girlfriends and saying
[04:40:39] terrible things and defensible things online and you would push these kinds of candidates
[04:40:45] that put our ability to reclaim majority at serious risk.
[04:40:51] Do you think they have dirt on them?
[04:40:58] No.
[04:40:59] No, dude.
[04:41:00] First of all, buddy doesn't have the brain processing capabilities to recognize even
[04:41:08] if he, in order to be blackmailed, you have to have shame. Okay. And in order to feel shame,
[04:41:15] you have to have working brain cells. John Federman has no brain cells that are working
[04:41:21] and no capacity to feel shame. And therefore, he is unblackmailable.
[04:41:30] He just has a handler.
[04:41:38] Anyway, apparently, um, John Stewart dunked on him with the, with the Bill Maher comments
[04:41:47] as well.
[04:41:48] Said they would like to nuke the Palestinians, not Hamas, the Palestinians.
[04:41:55] I'm just, I guess what I'm trying to get at is, I don't understand why we can't criticize
[04:42:03] even someone that you think is an ally for actions
[04:42:07] that we deem to be morally reprehensible.
[04:42:10] Like, I don't understand how you can defend
[04:42:13] the settlements in the West Bank.
[04:42:15] Like, I don't understand how you have no criticisms
[04:42:18] over their actions, over their increasingly messianic,
[04:42:22] ultra-right-wing government that seems to think
[04:42:27] relentless war is like that you can bomb people
[04:42:30] out of resistance.
[04:42:32] Have you ever seen a movie called Gatekeepers?
[04:42:34] It's people that have been in Shin Bet
[04:42:37] and ran the army in Israel.
[04:42:39] And they're talking about how the strategy that Israel has
[04:42:43] of disproportionate retaliation,
[04:42:47] even though they are by far
[04:42:49] the most powerful force in that region,
[04:42:52] is not a path to keep Israel safe.
[04:42:55] Have you seen that?
[04:42:57] What I'm saying is that Israel
[04:43:01] was entirely open to a two-state solution.
[04:43:04] They were offered a two-state solution.
[04:43:07] I actually got a chance to talk to former President Clinton
[04:43:10] about that, and reminds the people
[04:43:12] that they were offered 96% of the West Bank,
[04:43:15] and they get to pick 4% for part of Israel.
[04:43:19] And they had East Jerusalem as the capital,
[04:43:21] and they would have had their entire nation going on 26 years.
[04:43:26] Now, they reject that.
[04:43:27] They did not want a two-state solution.
[04:43:29] They have a one state solution, and that's from the river to the sea.
[04:43:33] And that's part of why anti-Semitism is run amok in our college campuses and in the streets.
[04:43:40] And now there are protesters showing up in my office at my home and following me and
[04:43:45] screaming and calling about and claiming about genocide.
[04:43:48] And now it's not a genocide.
[04:43:50] And if there was a genocide, that's because Iran refuses to relinquish this idea that
[04:43:56] they can destroy Israel.
[04:43:58] Oh, so there is also like he's like what and if there's a genocide it's good and worth while
[04:44:18] It's awesome
[04:44:20] I'll live in peace and I'll live your lives and stop
[04:44:24] funneling billions into Hezbollah and Hamas trying to destroy Israel. That's
[04:44:31] that's the honest and the dynamic in the region and now there will be a
[04:44:35] democratic election in Israel in October. Oh my god, is he? No. Someone said he's
[04:44:43] wearing an Israeli tie. No. Is that? Am I crazy? Was that the choice of his
[04:44:51] handler to make me go crazy? No, right? Will Netanyahu win or not overall? But that's the true only
[04:44:58] democracy in the entire region. So it's like I've never said that Israel is perfect. What I'm saying
[04:45:04] though, that's our special ally. And now until we're in middle of war, I'm going to stand with
[04:45:10] our special ally and describe the circumstances with Hamas or Hezbollah or the way Iran continues
[04:45:18] to behave. Joining us here in the situation. Yeah, I'm not going to watch this whole thing.
[04:45:27] But there was this moment, John Finner, we're crashing out over, I'll say a winning and
[04:45:30] starts playing on the Sompiker on the John Stewart podcast, who sort of energy and economic
[04:45:34] populism is a response to that. What is that? Is that socialism? And more, it's communism.
[04:45:40] It's the, you know, that that's not an economic model that has never worked in, in the history.
[04:45:43] But that's, aren't you just, that sounds like a caricature. else I had is running on. He
[04:45:47] wants to ban corporate money, wants to tax, I guess,
[04:45:49] higher taxes on billionaires for housing and education,
[04:45:51] Medicare for all.
[04:45:52] You know, when you say that's communism,
[04:45:55] that feels like a caricature.
[04:45:57] No, no, I never do that.
[04:45:58] I call real communists that are cheering for communism.
[04:46:01] People like Hassan Piker, for example,
[04:46:03] he's a big, big influence in the Democratic Party
[04:46:06] conversation.
[04:46:06] And he is a communist.
[04:46:08] He celebrates Mao and describes and is going to be proud
[04:46:11] to visit Cuba and stand on people on those sides.
[04:46:14] That's not.
[04:46:15] I am proud to have visited Cuba and delivered humanitarian aid to a country that we're fucking starving suck my dick
[04:46:22] Thumbass.
[04:46:23] Not a smear. That's just using the kinds of words and the positions that he has made part of part of his his platform
[04:46:30] So you're saying he says I'm a communist and I want America to be communist
[04:46:33] No, I'm saying I'm saying
[04:46:38] That he has the kinds of views now you were very very instrumental in delivering aid for victims of 9 11
[04:46:43] You know like in a you've been here, and you've been very effective for do that
[04:46:46] No for an individual it says that America we deserve that hey
[04:46:48] I'm deeply offended by that and I don't support that and I'm certainly not gonna
[04:46:52] Campaign with him or I'm not going you can you notice you know
[04:46:55] This is a fucking talking point because he's just like going down the talking points
[04:46:59] And he's just trying to like grab on to anything he can explain that way
[04:47:02] Well Bill Marr said that the 9-11 terrorists weren't cowards and you went on his podcast and you talked to him all the time
[04:47:08] So I guess what I'm saying is aren't you cherry picking certain things and maybe losing the forest for the tree?
[04:47:13] It's two the two things are not the same, you know make yeah, Bill Mars is objectively worse
[04:47:19] And if you were to say oh well Bill Mar apologize for it. Yes, so did I bitch
[04:47:25] So did I
[04:47:29] King making a statement compared to saying that we deserve that opposed to describing it in different terms
[04:47:35] So that's just not that's what no mine is
[04:47:38] Wait what?
[04:47:43] Mine, you could chalk up as like the wrong word choice with Bill Maher. He was just straight
[04:47:49] out. He said it with his full pussy dude. He put his pussy into it.
[04:47:53] Just not the same, but he's, he's not running. And Bill and Bill Maher is not a communist
[04:47:57] too. Bill Maher does not describe Hamas as a 1000% better than Israel. So for you, it's,
[04:48:01] it literally is, uh, they've made statements in the past or, or their economic policies
[04:48:05] are more sympathetic to socials. So let me, let me ship this new.
[04:48:13] Yeah, mine was blowback. Bill was just saying they're brave.
[04:48:22] Betterment mentions you to Wolf Blitzer at 50. I don't care about that.
[04:48:26] And notice some you haven't yet endorsed in the Wisconsin governor's race.
[04:48:30] What's your thinking there and might you endorse or I don't think so.
[04:48:33] I met Francesca a couple of years ago, as in Wisconsin,
[04:48:39] and she seems very, very nice.
[04:48:40] But again, this is a race I just am not that familiar with.
[04:48:43] We have not gotten involved in many governor's races.
[04:48:46] Then we did one in Maine with Troy Jackson.
[04:48:49] Obviously, my major concern right now
[04:48:51] is seeing that we have a Senate and a House that
[04:48:55] is going to stand up to Trump.
[04:48:57] That's really where my focus is.
[04:48:59] So as of now, we have not been involved in that race.
[04:49:01] i noticed them you haven't yet endorsed in the wisconsin governor's race uh...
[04:49:05] what's your thinking there and and might you
[04:49:09] bernie races
[04:49:11] bernie is raised for the agents new old guy lower on lock when l said with l sad
[04:49:15] now democrats in canada machine the media's begun the play defense
[04:49:19] von hillyard trust distance l safe in the violent shrooms terris and was i
[04:49:22] was on by giving up a girl's endorsement literally campaign by and really can be
[04:49:26] well said spending big
[04:49:27] you know this kind of stuff is stupid
[04:49:30] I did dude these guys like I know they never listen to me, but just like don't do this kind of shit
[04:49:35] Okay, I
[04:49:37] Don't know why these guys like are now engaging in like a defensive posture at the behest of Abdul
[04:49:46] Like it's just again
[04:49:49] He has already made his position clear. Okay, he goes everywhere. He talks to everybody
[04:49:55] He talks to motherfucking Republicans as well.
[04:49:59] That doesn't mean he's a Republican.
[04:50:01] He's not a socialist.
[04:50:02] I am.
[04:50:03] Okay.
[04:50:04] In Michigan, it's a seat that they can take at a time that Democrats feel like they have
[04:50:11] open opportunities in places like Maine and Texas.
[04:50:13] I want to play a sound bite.
[04:50:15] Is that skinny Mike Lindell?
[04:50:17] From Mike Rogers, who was on Fox just a bit ago here this morning, setting up his general
[04:50:21] election campaign, take a listen.
[04:50:24] ops. No, these guys think they're helping so radical, so extreme, uh, get nominated by a political
[04:50:31] party and the DSA candidates in the state, uh, in two different congressional races look like
[04:50:36] they're pulling it off as well. The Democrat party is lost to this hardcore socialist attitude. And
[04:50:43] I listen, I fought terrorism my whole life. I was an FBI special agent, U S army officer,
[04:50:48] chairman of the house intelligence committee. By the way, that's, that's dog whistle for sure.
[04:50:53] just so you understand he's saying like like that's there i brought some earlier they're gonna
[04:50:59] position it as like the anti-terrorism specialist against the terrorist i find it shocking that
[04:51:06] i'm gonna go up against a guy who believes america deserved 9 11 to be very clear alcide never said
[04:51:13] that but he has appeared with popular twitch streamer has some piker who did but then walked it back
[04:51:18] and to be clear alcide has justified his relationship with piker is one of which piker has followed
[04:51:23] Following of millions and just because he appears with him doesn't mean he agrees with everything
[04:51:27] He says equating to someone appearing on Fox and not agreeing with everything that individuals on Fox say, but this is
[04:51:34] The type of attack outside is already. Oh, they framed it. Okay, never mind
[04:51:39] He did they're not trying to distance l say it from violent extremism. They're just repeating what l said said
[04:51:44] I misunderstood I got duped by the fucking description and then I watched the video and realized the video doesn't say what the fucking dumbass
[04:51:51] description does but of course it's fucking newsbusters so classic someone
[04:51:57] asked McMorin about you today oh it's Alex Kane what you say you just you know
[04:52:01] you just endorse Jewish currents Alex Kane Abdul and wondering what are your
[04:52:06] plans for the general election what are you specifically gonna do how are you
[04:52:10] gonna pull up your supporters and I think I gave him interview to people
[04:52:15] particularly Steven's people who voted for Stevens who may have liked you as
[04:52:19] well, what are you gonna do to kind of bring them into this is democratic media
[04:52:22] finally starting to defend you if they were smart they would I know that all
[04:52:27] of my I know that all of my fucking ops will say of course not you should kill
[04:52:31] yourself of course not like Democrats should actually go extra hard on you and
[04:52:36] maybe even Abdul but if they are smart they would do that like I'm not even
[04:52:41] expecting a defense I just want them to be truthful you know what I mean I just
[04:52:45] want them to, to like frame it in a normal way as they would for anybody else.
[04:52:51] That's what's so goddamn annoying.
[04:52:54] My black genics that sided with you and Abdul over Carval.
[04:52:57] So it's working actually. Hell yeah. No, the James Carval thing actually helped
[04:53:01] out a lot, I think, cause everybody hates him.
[04:53:03] Like a lot of Democrats despise him.
[04:53:05] I've seen that even on threads where I'm not exactly, uh, you know,
[04:53:10] people are not exactly very fond of me, but even on threads, they were like,
[04:53:14] Yeah, I don't know anything about Hassan, but after this James Carvel shit, I'm with him.
[04:53:19] Anybody who's against James Carvel is with me, is on my team.
[04:53:25] They don't defend you, then it turns into a weird circle jerk of them disavowing you
[04:53:29] and then Republicans saying they didn't disavow you.
[04:53:31] Exactly, it's so stupid, just like be honest, be truthful.
[04:53:34] Be like, this is a separate media entity. Who gives a shit?
[04:53:38] I have a theory about this, stay with me here okay, you know how Fox News is always giving
[04:53:51] advice to the dens, but it really sucks, I feel like the right-wing and centrist dens
[04:53:53] view your advice in the same opposite appeal type advice, so that's why they don't listen
[04:53:57] to you, no they don't listen to me because they think I'm wrong.
[04:54:00] Every single race in November and it is about so much more than just one race, I ran in
[04:54:06] this race, but I also know how important it is to make sure that we elect Jocelyn Benson
[04:54:10] as her next governor. We flip the state house. We expand our majorities in the state Senate
[04:54:14] because that is how we actually deliver on all of these promises on protecting voting
[04:54:19] rights, on expanding affordability, on making sure we're funding our schools. We have opportunities
[04:54:24] to meet all of those things matter. So wherever I can plug in to do that is where I'm going
[04:54:29] to be. Is Israel a divide that can be healed from a general election?
[04:54:36] I hope that I can't, you know, this is Carl Levin's seat historically and Senator Levin
[04:54:43] always said a wonderful part of somebody coming from the Jewish community for keeping
[04:54:47] an open door to the Arab and Muslim community.
[04:54:50] And I want to get-
[04:54:52] Wait, I didn't know that. That's crazy.
[04:54:55] I- I-
[04:54:57] So, Carl Levin is- is Andy Levin's dad.
[04:55:02] Andy Levin is one of Abdul's first endorsers. Andy Levin was the president of a synagogue. Andy Levin is the Israel critical Jewish person who was running for the district that APAC actually spent a shit ton of money on to put Haley Stevens in charge of.
[04:55:26] That's kinda crazy.
[04:55:29] Yeah, Andy Levin's dad is Carl Levin. Yes, Andy Levin is from the Levin.
[04:55:39] Or Sandy's is dad, Carl's uncle. Oh, I thought Carl was his dad.
[04:55:45] I have a lot of respect to the law for reaching out and getting time and having a conversation.
[04:55:54] How to put my husband in my business is, we are in an interfaith marriage.
[04:56:00] I was raised Catholic when I was in this situation and being able to have a difficult conversation
[04:56:05] and I think we've heard some of that today where there is shared safety for our kids that matters.
[04:56:12] And that's what this is about at the end of the day.
[04:56:14] And you criticized Hassan Piper when he was campaigning for our duel.
[04:56:18] What changed from that criticism to now to kind of getting behind it?
[04:56:24] I'm not going to talk about, you know, a streaker and the impact on this race, but what matters is...
[04:56:30] It's going to be in a couple months.
[04:56:42] Wow.
[04:56:43] She fucking hates me, dude.
[04:56:46] That's crazy.
[04:56:47] I thought we were boys now.
[04:56:50] all coming together, because what I said up there, whatever differences we had in primary
[04:56:55] pale in comparison to a microdurge who will just do whatever Donald Trump wants him to
[04:57:01] do, which we can't, of course, right now. So when we think about the future for our
[04:57:06] kids and our daughters and making sure they have a country and they have bodily autonomy
[04:57:09] and they have public rights and civil rights, we have to be a microdurge. So we've got to
[04:57:14] put those differences aside and be focused on the culture.
[04:57:18] Thank you so much.
[04:57:18] Yeah, please take your time.
[04:57:19] Thank you.
[04:57:23] A-PAC has definitely had some impact.
[04:57:24] But for some voters to turn them off,
[04:57:25] one of the things I heard so frequently
[04:57:26] was I really hate that they keep calling the sexes.
[04:57:28] We can't escape these ads.
[04:57:30] I think it backfired a little bit, Hasan.
[04:57:32] The Hun told me.
[04:57:34] El Sayed did best among young voters.
[04:57:35] Young people have watched for years.
[04:57:36] Our leaders have failed the meeting for legal labor for them.
[04:57:40] Yeah.
[04:57:43] She's my co-worker now.
[04:57:44] We're peers.
[04:57:45] We're allies.
[04:57:47] Some might even say besties.
[04:58:01] Okay.
[04:58:14] She's just joking.
[04:58:15] Yeah, also the pool party, dude, the real proletarian Vanguard is in the least expected place.
[04:58:28] The real proletarian Vanguard is in the Fox News, the Boomer comments under Fox News posts
[04:58:34] that are attacking me or Abdul Assaad.
[04:58:38] I love that y'all use the best pictures possible.
[04:58:40] Dude looks like a model and this is brought to you straight from APEC themselves.
[04:58:44] You just show them photos of two good looking guys that we all support making them look
[04:58:47] even cooler.
[04:58:48] Honestly, the commercials against them made me laugh.
[04:58:51] The worst they could find was he was sexy because he said some aggression was not inspirational.
[04:58:54] I think we have a different definition of sexism, anyone.
[04:58:59] Cya's gonna smoke Rogers in the election.
[04:59:01] Okay, these aren't like, these are not fucking right wingers.
[04:59:05] Fox secretly loves this guy.
[04:59:20] I have a question. What is this? Are you at all worried that the essay can is this is self from socialism? Will Lawrence worrying? Yes, I mean, I'm not worried in general, but the will Lawrence what I did not like.
[04:59:35] This is my favorite picture of you two together on this one
[04:59:49] We need to stop talking about Shannon was I think I'm gonna I think I'm deciding to no longer talk about
[04:59:55] What is the core of your met?
[04:59:58] All right, we're done. We're done. We're done. All right. Let's skip though the shit
[05:00:05] In Michigan last night, we supported three candidates, Will Warrens and
[05:00:10] Lansing, Donovan McKinney and Detroit, and both of them won.
[05:00:15] And of course, the key race was the Senate race in which Scott D'Avile and
[05:00:19] outside won a big grand won a bank, Ellie Stevens for her very gracious concession.
[05:00:26] And the understanding that we all have got to work together to elect a blue.
[05:00:30] What I hope everybody appreciates is that what happened in Michigan yesterday is
[05:00:35] legally unprecedented in modern American history.
[05:00:40] What Abdul had to do is take on the entire Michigan
[05:00:44] Democratic establishment, to take on the National Democratic
[05:00:48] establishment.
[05:00:49] And then in a way that I have never heard of,
[05:00:51] I don't think anybody has.
[05:00:53] $60 million in super PAC funding.
[05:00:58] An unbelievable amount of money.
[05:01:00] I'm spending him $921, I can't say.
[05:01:04] new one. So, I just congratulate the people of Michigan. I think they made a great choice.
[05:01:10] And I look forward to them, everything I can, to see that Dr. El-Syed is the next senator.
[05:01:15] Do you have concerns, though, that some moderate Democrats or some of these, quote, establishment
[05:01:19] Democrats that you refer to might not be able to support Syed or others because there's
[05:01:23] this sism inside the party? Well, I made it clear yesterday and before
[05:01:28] that if Hallie Stevens was the nominee I would support, because I think it's terribly important
[05:01:33] that we all come together to take on and do everything we can to stop the disastrous
[05:01:39] policies of the most dangerous president in the history of the United States, that's
[05:01:44] Donald Trump.
[05:01:45] I think he's going to take a lot from Bernie to just start endorsing until they win their
[05:01:50] primaries after the Grand Planner stuff.
[05:01:52] So I was prepared to support Kelly Stevens, and I am confident that people who are on
[05:01:58] the other side of that election yesterday are going to support him.
[05:02:02] why do you think that doesn't tilt this to the paper for Rogers?
[05:02:05] If they view what else I got is too...
[05:02:07] Look, what already we're seeing is the Republicans are bankrupt.
[05:02:10] How would you like to go out and campaign and tell people why you support a precedent
[05:02:15] for giving billion dollars?
[05:02:17] that is burned out would have burned dog would have a motherfucking landline ringtown
[05:02:41] did. A trillion dollars in tax breaks to the top one percent and through 15
[05:02:48] million people off the health care. Good luck to you. How would you like to go out
[05:02:51] and say, you know, I think it's a great idea that we started an illegal and
[05:02:55] unconstitutional war which is causing massive damage all over the world
[05:02:59] including 18 deaths of our own service. Good luck to you. They got nothing to say.
[05:03:03] So you know what they got a campaign on? Breaking news. Abdul El Sayed is a Muslim.
[05:03:10] Wow, maybe we can perform some racism there or he's a quote-unquote communist because he believes that health care is a human right.
[05:03:21] They've got nothing to say. We're going to win.
[05:03:23] Is this 2004 with Obama or late with Obama all over again?
[05:03:26] I think it's part of that. I tell you, it goes back even further. I'm old enough to remember a guy named John F. Kennedy.
[05:03:32] And there were people who said, oh, Kennedy is a Catholic. We can't have a Catholic.
[05:03:37] Catholic he is or that's right fact-check true he is old enough
[05:03:44] fact-check true he said I'm old enough to remember John F. Kennedy the United
[05:03:51] States presidency is gonna listen to the Pope he's not gonna be for America you
[05:03:55] know but we're gonna beat that because I think at the end of the day people
[05:03:59] understand the system is broken you got 60% of our people live in paycheck to
[05:04:04] paycheck, struggling to put food on the table, pay for health care, pay for housing, while
[05:04:08] the billionaire class is getting richer. And Abdul understands that, he's going to campaign
[05:04:12] on that. And by the way, you're going to see a number of independents coming out from,
[05:04:16] you're going to see some republicans coming out from, and you are going to see a lot of
[05:04:19] young people getting involved in the political process of waivers.
[05:04:22] How does anything change for the republic?
[05:04:23] Okay, I got it. Okay, good.
[05:04:24] Thank you. Thank you.
[05:04:25] Thank you.
[05:04:26] Thank you.
[05:04:27] Thank you.
[05:04:28] Thank you.
[05:04:29] Thank you.
[05:04:30] Thank you.
[05:04:31] Thank you.
[05:04:32] Thank you.
[05:04:33] When you say progressive left, there's a tone of contempt there.
[05:04:36] There's a hope of camera that could be able to pick up the contempt.
[05:04:40] There are a lot of people who are just like, this is not working.
[05:04:43] Democrats haven't done anything about it.
[05:04:45] They never win.
[05:04:46] Have they been given a chance?
[05:04:47] You know who's going to decide to future the Democratic Party?
[05:04:50] You break the news to you.
[05:04:51] They ain't that liberal, okay?
[05:04:54] Pro-Israel politics is so poisonous in the Democratic Party.
[05:04:57] There's no place for criticism of the government of Israel in the Democratic Party.
[05:05:03] Will you endorse the 2028 candidates if they are pro-Israeli?
[05:05:13] How are you feeling about the midterms?
[05:05:14] I feel very good, but the only thing that can derail us is that we could nominate some
[05:05:24] of our own candidates in the wrong place and not be as successful as I hope.
[05:05:29] It's going to be massive, in spite of anything, we're going to win that thing.
[05:05:34] The wrong candidate, that's what you mean by that.
[05:05:36] I see challenges from the quote, progressive left, and these people are too hard headed
[05:05:48] to know that they're not popular, people don't like them, but if you get a skewed turner.
[05:05:55] As we found out in Michigan last night, still more popular than the establishment voters,
[05:06:07] still more popular than the establishment politicians, devoid of policy.
[05:06:13] Out in a primary, you might end up losing a race that you should have never lost in
[05:06:17] the first place.
[05:06:18] We're really reheating our nachos, bro.
[05:06:20] Yeah, I said this is a full, this is a full interview.
[05:06:22] You say progressive left.
[05:06:23] sort of there's a tone of contempt there yeah so you were very wise a hope of
[05:06:29] camera that was able to pick up the contempt yes they don't win elections
[05:06:36] they never run against Republicans they just run against other Democrats their
[05:06:42] only message is we're gonna blow everything up okay great and they run for
[05:06:49] president. They never win. They are the... Have they been given a chance? Huh? Let's take over.
[05:06:58] Let's think of somebody. Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders made for a person twice. You know,
[05:07:03] he did twice. He lost. By what?
[05:07:08] James Carville says this is all going to implode at the general election.
[05:07:16] as opposed to previous neoliberal Democratic candidacies that have been spectacular successes
[05:07:22] so far, you know, Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2016 and Kamala Harrison 2024. I think these
[05:07:29] guys have failed so publicly and so spectacularly that it has caused people to seek out alternatives.
[05:07:40] I don't think I'm exceptionally good at proselytizing
[05:07:44] the gospel of socialism necessarily.
[05:07:46] I think there are a lot of people who are just like,
[05:07:48] this is not working.
[05:07:50] The cost of living crisis is completely out of control.
[05:07:53] Democrats haven't done anything about it.
[05:07:54] Republicans haven't done anything about it.
[05:07:56] There has to be a different alternative.
[05:07:59] And a lot of people are also very frustrated
[05:08:01] with the rise of Trumpism, rise of MAGA,
[05:08:04] rise of fascism in this country.
[05:08:06] They're scared.
[05:08:07] There's a lot of instability and they see the Democratic Party as insufficient in dealing with Trumpism.
[05:08:18] And they go out there in the streets, they want to demonstrate, who do they see on the streets?
[05:08:24] People like me, they see the USA, they see PSL, they see these organizations that have never stopped protesting.
[05:08:32] They don't stop protesting when Democrats are in charge.
[05:08:35] They don't stop protesting when Republicans are in charge.
[05:08:38] Why do they do that?
[05:08:39] Because the issues persist.
[05:08:40] Do you know who the son piker is?
[05:08:42] Yes.
[05:08:43] What do you think of him?
[05:08:45] A boy horde.
[05:08:46] A boss?
[05:08:47] A boy horde.
[05:08:48] Name me one Democrat in a tough election that wants a son piker to come in and campaign
[05:08:56] with him.
[05:08:57] In a general election.
[05:09:01] Do you think that Taurico is going to invite his son, Tiger, to come to Texas?
[05:09:05] I don't.
[05:09:06] You think John Arsoff is going to invite him?
[05:09:08] I don't.
[05:09:09] You think Roy Cooper?
[05:09:10] No.
[05:09:11] No.
[05:09:12] No.
[05:09:13] No.
[05:09:14] And, I mean, he's a niche guy.
[05:09:17] Do you think, you know, candidates that are inviting you?
[05:09:23] I don't understand.
[05:09:26] And also on top of that like why would I campaign with any of these guys if I don't even fully
[05:09:35] subscribe to their to their platforms? Embrace you in the primary process might want to tuck
[05:09:42] you away in the general election, baby, but I think that'd be a mistake. Also there was one
[05:09:49] candidacy that invited me to campaign with them. Kamala fucking Harris. Not the best
[05:10:00] example, but we do forget that like I have been working with Democrats. Like I've been
[05:10:11] a democratic voter for the last decade plus. Okay. I've never voted for a Republican. I
[05:10:25] never will vote for a Republican. Like these guys make it seem like my audience are just
[05:10:30] not Democrats at all. And that my, um, like I'm not a part of this coalition at all. Like
[05:10:39] It's so strange.
[05:10:43] I don't know where the fuck this comes from.
[05:10:45] Yes, dude, I think it's okay to be critical of the Democratic Party platform and
[05:10:50] wanted to be better and wanted to be more representative of the people's interests.
[05:10:53] Okay.
[05:10:54] Sorry.
[05:10:57] Like, sucks to suck for you, I guess, but clearly my attitude is well represented
[05:11:06] amongst the fucking base of voters in the democratic party.
[05:11:11] That's why you guys keep losing.
[05:11:15] It's so weird.
[05:11:16] They're mad.
[05:11:17] They're mad at their voters, but they can't say, you guys are fucking stupid.
[05:11:21] Shut the fuck up.
[05:11:22] Just vote for who we tell you to vote for.
[05:11:23] So they just yell at someone like me.
[05:11:26] My resentment is not shared by just myself and maybe a couple others like my resentment
[05:11:32] is shared by those who've never even heard of me.
[05:11:39] Because the reality is, not only do I have a lot of
[05:11:45] passionate door knockers and organizers in my community,
[05:11:49] but also outside of that,
[05:11:53] I represent a position that is objectively popular,
[05:11:57] the criticisms of Israel.
[05:11:59] That is the overwhelming majority's perspective.
[05:12:05] So I think simply leaning in to attack ads and saying, oh, you're right, that this person
[05:12:12] is bad, actually.
[05:12:14] This person was wrong.
[05:12:15] It was wrong of me to identify or in a line with him.
[05:12:18] How could have done that in the primary as well?
[05:12:22] It was very risky for him to say, no, this is ridiculous.
[05:12:25] Yeah, I have disagreements with him, but who cares?
[05:12:27] He's a Twitch streamer.
[05:12:29] And I think that's an honest message, that's something that people can understand, and
[05:12:33] as long as he sticks to the issues, as long as he keeps fighting for Medicare for all
[05:12:38] and keep fighting for policies that will improve people's lives, that's what people
[05:12:44] are going to vote for.
[05:12:46] The rest of it is just noise.
[05:12:48] You look silly if you try to consistently take the conversation back to an allegiance
[05:12:54] that a politician might have with a Twitch streamer.
[05:12:57] If the other side is saying, I want to give people health care, it's not a great message.
[05:13:02] In the primary process, of course, he has become the sort of central part of a debate,
[05:13:07] right, about the future of the Democratic Party.
[05:13:11] Well, let me tell you we're going to have a debate about the future of the Democratic
[05:13:15] Party.
[05:13:16] In the Democratic primary is of 2028.
[05:13:20] In Hassan Pika and the progressives, you know, who's going to decide the future of
[05:13:25] Democratic Party, we break the news to you. Democratic primary voters, primarily Southern
[05:13:32] Black.
[05:13:37] Oh, God, it's so shameless, dude. It's so nasty. It's so like, I know, I know what he's saying.
[05:13:47] I wonder if this comes across for like, old, for like older black voters, I wonder if this
[05:13:52] comes across as him like showing respect or if they see exactly what he's saying. You know what I mean?
[05:14:00] Because he's just so cynically weaponizing black people and black voters in general to be like,
[05:14:07] Yeah. Yeah. It's so nasty. It's it's positively racist. You know what I mean?
[05:14:24] No black person likes Carvel. His accent alone let us know what what's up.
[05:14:27] Look at how excited he is.
[05:14:46] Like that's such a strange thing to say.
[05:14:49] First of all, that's not true.
[05:14:51] That's literally not true.
[05:14:53] It's not true.
[05:14:54] This is not true.
[05:14:56] Black voters are the most progressive voting bloc in the country. While many of the older
[05:15:02] black voters end up voting defensively or voting along whatever, like, establishment
[05:15:12] community leaders are urging is the most elective option, black voters by and large are actually
[05:15:20] very liberal. Far more liberal than what voters are. Not even a question.
[05:15:28] Now, I'm sure what someone on the left would say, well, we have to have another process.
[05:15:36] No, we don't. And what Hassan Pika needs to do is run for president. If everybody agrees
[05:15:44] with you, good, run, go, can't go. I think everybody ought to run. And I think-
[05:15:50] This is such a bad argument.
[05:15:54] What?
[05:15:54] Anyone that has a political position needs to run for president is so fucking stupid.
[05:15:59] That the judgment of Democratic primary voters is what I'm going to follow.
[05:16:06] But, but if you claim that there's all of this.
[05:16:10] Also, this entire conversation, this entire resentment is brewing for James Carville
[05:16:16] Because the voters in the Democratic Party are voting against his best decisions.
[05:16:23] That's why he's so mad. That's why the other day he said,
[05:16:26] if this becomes a Hasan Pagan party, I'm out.
[05:16:28] It's either me or him.
[05:16:30] And maybe it won't be me.
[05:16:38] This energy and this activism didn't, okay, hand at it.
[05:16:44] You're allowed to take part in the Democratic Socialist Party.
[05:16:49] I would say, of course, you are allowed to office.
[05:16:54] What I'd say is why do these people call themselves Democrats?
[05:16:57] Call yourself Democratic Socialists.
[05:17:00] Maybe what we need.
[05:17:02] I mean, I think a lot of them do.
[05:17:04] But don't call yourself Democrats.
[05:17:06] But we're all lurching.
[05:17:08] There's no place, any place for criticism of the government of Israel
[05:17:12] party, there's no place for anti-semitism. But if you want to be anti-semitic, go to
[05:17:16] a foreign young party. The reason that most people become Democrats is the same reason
[05:17:22] that I did. I don't hate anybody.
[05:17:23] I mean, he's so out of step with his own voters. Like, well, I don't even want to say his own
[05:17:33] voters because he left the party after the Obdil victory, right? It's our party now.
[05:17:39] I have a big issue with the government of Israel, I work in Israel, it's part of the
[05:17:55] Hoot Brog's campaign.
[05:17:57] The poster set in history, but that will come to heaven a deal, and I am a full support
[05:18:07] of the right of a Jewish state on the eastern Mediterranean, I think the only way to have
[05:18:13] that is you have to have a correspondent Palestinian state, fully recognized, you have to have
[05:18:19] security zones, you have to have massive aid to the Palestinian state, and we've got to
[05:18:25] have peace and not war.
[05:18:28] Now, I can't stand that now, and the big change that I've seen in Israel is they used to actually
[05:18:35] trying to get people to like them. Don't do that anymore. And I detest the settlements.
[05:18:42] All right. And I would love to see policy changes in the government of Israel. But
[05:18:49] I am a firm believer in the state of Israel. Two different things. Never to be confused.
[05:18:55] I was with you at the DNC in 2024 where you said you didn't endorse Harris. Will you endorse
[05:19:05] the 2028 candidates, if they are pro-Israel in a way that you don't like, I mean, if you
[05:19:14] ultimately are about defeating fascism in this country, as you describe it, MAGA, whatever,
[05:19:22] surely shouldn't you get on board with whoever the main candidate is?
[05:19:25] Luckily, I don't think I'll have to make that calculation at all, because again, pro-Israel
[05:19:31] Republicans is so poisonous in the Democratic Party especially that there is, I'm telling
[05:19:36] you right now, as a promise, and you'll see, 0% chance that whoever the elected Democrat
[05:19:43] is that wins the primary will be pro-Israel in any way, shape, or form, and I will do
[05:19:49] everything in my power to make sure that that doesn't happen regardless, but I don't think
[05:19:52] I'll have to push too much.
[05:19:55] And you'll see.
[05:19:56] Rahman is a great example of this. Rahman himself is very critical of Israel now, very,
[05:20:02] very critical of Israel and it's clear that he has ambitions of higher office and he sees
[05:20:07] which way the winds are blowing. It's not going to happen. So that's not even a problem.
[05:20:14] But I do warn, just as I did in 2019 with Joe Biden, that if we don't have a bold progressive
[05:20:24] candidate, as someone who can take advantage of the momentum of the growing socialist movement
[05:20:31] in this country, seek to improve the material conditions of the working class in this country,
[05:20:38] it's going to be worse than Donald Trump next time around.
[05:20:42] as Donald Trump 2 was far worse than Donald Trump 1.
[05:21:12] We need candidates who are going to try to challenge the status quo.
[05:21:16] Is the Democrat Party having its Tea Party movement?
[05:21:20] We'll see who wins. That'll tell us a lot about the future of the party.
[05:21:30] When you guys set up this company, there was very solid MAGA media infrastructure online.
[05:21:38] And it seems, and I think you guys were early in this space in terms of like having an alternative point of view and having the progressive left, whatever Democrat as sort of media ecosystem.
[05:21:50] Podrogans of the left, yeah.
[05:21:54] Have you felt a sort of greater sense of responsibility almost given how much you've grown and given that, you know, a lot of people are just not watching us anymore. They're not watching the news.
[05:22:04] Yeah, there's a little bit of that.
[05:22:06] I mean, look, there are definitely times
[05:22:07] when you do an episode, you forget
[05:22:09] that it goes out to a lot of people.
[05:22:11] I'll have that experience often.
[05:22:13] And someone will cite back something terrible I said
[05:22:16] or stupid or some offensive joke.
[05:22:17] I probably shouldn't have done that.
[05:22:19] So there is a bit of a sense of responsibility.
[05:22:22] I think the job gets more complicated
[05:22:24] when there is a democratic primary.
[05:22:27] That's when the fights get kind of more personal and uglier
[05:22:31] and harder to adjudicate.
[05:22:32] when it's commentary about what the Trump administration is doing,
[05:22:36] there tends to be more agreement.
[05:22:38] And you mentioned I can't, I know a lot of people have been
[05:22:41] sending me the full John Fetterman, John Stewart clips.
[05:22:45] The podcast episode, I can't stand to listen to John Fetterman.
[05:22:48] I'm sorry.
[05:22:51] I can't, like it's just so difficult.
[05:22:54] I listened to him for two and a half minutes earlier, and it was, it was already.
[05:23:00] It's just not something I want to do.
[05:23:01] And when it gets tricky for you guys is what's happening right now, right? The democratic primaries John you interviewed
[05:23:09] I think it was you who most recently interviewed a Sandpiker, right? There's a whole platforming the base
[05:23:16] Clearly you don't buy into the idea that
[05:23:19] Somebody like a Sandpiker should not be given a platform. I dare you platform some of the huge platform
[05:23:24] we want to have conversations with
[05:23:28] everyone from the far left to
[05:23:30] to never Trumpers, maybe even, you know, Republicans,
[05:23:36] just because I think we think conversations are interesting,
[05:23:39] and we also trust our audience to make up their own minds
[05:23:45] based on differing viewpoints, opposing viewpoints,
[05:23:49] views they haven't heard before,
[05:23:51] and I think, you know, whether you like this or not,
[05:23:55] Hassan has a lot of people who listen to him,
[05:23:58] And if even if you're so why does John love it?
[05:24:04] Why does why does John love it look like he hates this?
[05:24:09] You're on MSNBC right now
[05:24:12] Dan Bongino is talking about you right now with Jesse Waters. Wait, I'm on Fox news and MSNBC simultaneously
[05:24:20] What the fuck?
[05:24:22] That's so stupid
[05:24:24] The trifecta is if I'm on CNN too. You know what I mean? Give me the link. Give me the
[05:24:36] live link. Okay. Forever. Schumer endorses a guy hunting him. Well, we missed it. We
[05:24:56] missed the house. I gotta come together. Obviously, you got his perspective on it and
[05:25:00] welcome to his perspective. It's not mine. My perspective on it is that you have to
[05:25:04] to ask for every vote. I've been in asking about that. I ran for office eight years ago
[05:25:10] and I know that a vote is a very serious thing and folks want to give it to people that they
[05:25:14] know and trust in the future. I can't say anything. I can't say anything anymore. I
[05:25:18] literally can't say anything like, like, Adri thought that she was like eclipping something
[05:25:25] that was doing me a favor and like letting people know my position. I wasn't even talking
[05:25:30] about fucking voters. I cannot believe how fast I cannot believe how fast something gets
[05:25:38] misconstrued on the stream now. It's mind boggling. I saw Jacob yesterday. I'm focused
[05:25:44] on campaigning in this state all over the state. I'm not as focused on who I'm campaigning
[05:25:49] with. I'm focused on who I'm campaigning for, which is the 10 million people in the state
[05:25:53] reaching out to them in their communities like I have for the past 15 months. I have
[05:25:57] to ask you about this Islamophobia that that is already coming in. Okay, never
[05:26:02] mind. I'm glad I'm glad that he's okay. At least the conversation is about
[05:26:06] Islamophobia a little bit. Bre read what your opponent Mike Rogers said in
[05:26:10] particular today. He said, Abdul isn't just another liberal. He is an extremist
[05:26:15] never in a million years that I think I would be running against someone who
[05:26:18] believes America deserved 9 11. I have to let you respond to that. Well, look, you
[05:26:24] You know, Mike Rogers has no new ideas.
[05:26:27] He was in Congress, what, 2000 to 2015.
[05:26:30] He left Congress, made $14 million.
[05:26:32] He doesn't want to explain his ideas are old,
[05:26:35] his perspective on politics is old,
[05:26:37] and he's going to find that people
[05:26:38] don't want that perspective anymore.
[05:26:40] So of course, he's gonna do the same thing
[05:26:42] that MAGA always does, which is try to divide us.
[05:26:45] I've been Abdul in Michigan my whole life.
[05:26:46] I'm so grateful for the way
[05:26:47] Michiganders have embraced me and my family,
[05:26:50] and I know that Michiganders are open-minded.
[05:26:52] They're big-hearted.
[05:26:53] interested in how you pray, then what you pray for. And we all pray for the same things. We want
[05:26:58] what's good for our kids and our families. We want clean air, clean water, health care we can
[05:27:01] afford. So they're going to use Islamophobia because their ideas are tired. Their economy
[05:27:06] sucks. They're taking us to war. We shouldn't fight. And we have an opportunity to actually focus
[05:27:10] on bringing us together. So if he has some new ideas he'd like to talk about, I've challenged
[05:27:14] him to five debates. Mike, if you're watching five debates, but you're a coward, so you probably
[05:27:17] will do it. I second your sentiment about Michiganders. It was incredible to be there yesterday.
[05:27:25] Congratulations to you. I'm sure I'll see you out there again over the course of the next
[05:27:29] several months. Michigan Democratic Senate nominee Abdul El Sayed. Thank you so much again and
[05:27:32] congratulations. We just have to be more careful with the language that we use.
[05:27:39] Because it's like the description is clearly more important.
[05:27:41] I'm so excited if Max Miller is fit to serve. The description is literally more important
[05:27:45] than what I'm saying in the clip. Like that's the, that's what the context is. That's important.
[05:27:53] The context that's important is to be like, a song calls out DC consultants that got the
[05:27:59] race wrong. And then you can quote it, you know what I mean? Like that would be probably a better
[05:28:05] way to clip something. No sense, self-censoring, double down, fuck them. No, man, it's, it's,
[05:28:16] I don't like it. I'm sorry. I don't fucking like it. There's a lot of knives out. I still have to do
[05:28:21] my job. But ultimately, it's messaging clarity is very important. I obviously cannot consistently
[05:28:31] Add additional context to the things that I'm saying in real time.
[05:28:35] That's not a normal way to communicate.
[05:28:42] Downfall, the broadcast self-sensoring fatal.
[05:28:59] I'm just always going to,
[05:29:00] I'm just always going to say, hey, guys, I'm giving you the entire context when I when I talk about this particular thing.
[05:29:09] And even with that huge, you can feel it on the ground,
[05:29:34] there's in Detroit, the ones who voted for El Sayed,
[05:29:36] almost all of them that I spoke with,
[05:29:38] They told me something's gotta change.
[05:29:42] Else I add or Stevens?
[05:29:44] I'll say it.
[05:29:45] You think he's gonna win?
[05:29:46] I know Stevens or else I had.
[05:29:48] Else I had by a hair.
[05:29:49] Why Stevens over else I had.
[05:29:51] She does what she says she's going to do.
[05:29:53] And she's very honest, trust worthy.
[05:29:56] Stevens or else I had.
[05:29:59] I voted for Stevens.
[05:30:00] I voted for I'll say it.
[05:30:02] So wait a minute, the two of you here shopping.
[05:30:04] Very friends agree and most everything.
[05:30:08] We got Elsa Ed and we got Stephens.
[05:30:10] What's the difference for the two of you?
[05:30:12] I'm going progressive this election.
[05:30:15] I'd like to blow everything up and start from scratch.
[05:30:18] And you went with it, the trusted voice,
[05:30:21] or for you the trusted voice here in Michigan?
[05:30:23] Yes.
[05:30:24] So who are you for?
[05:30:25] What's your prediction?
[05:30:25] Elsa, oh, freaking me, come on.
[05:30:28] Get money out of politics, baby.
[05:30:31] Bring it back to the people.
[05:30:34] They were not shy at the Eastern market.
[05:30:38] On day one of the general election,
[05:30:39] El Sayed faces a huge test against the Republican,
[05:30:43] former Congressman, Mike Rogers.
[05:30:45] But Democrats appear to have some real momentum here.
[05:30:49] This morning, El Sayed got a full-throated endorsement
[05:30:51] from Haley Stevens, his primary opponent.
[05:30:54] And this afternoon, the former vice president,
[05:30:56] Kamala Harris, was sending out fundraising emails
[05:30:58] on his behalf.
[05:31:00] But the Republicans, the Republicans and their allies
[05:31:03] have got their knives out.
[05:31:04] El Sayed is a Michigan born son of Egyptian immigrants. He has been a vocal critic of
[05:31:10] Israel and its war in Gaza. A-PAC is already vowing to help his Republican opponent now.
[05:31:16] They're trying to dial up pressure even more because your method is working. Don't get down.
[05:31:19] But if you thought she was bad before the daily coverage, get ready, you'll be treated as
[05:31:24] oil, Obama, political commentators by the establishment. It's a time to dig deep.
[05:31:27] I just don't know how I can continue.
[05:31:30] you. I genuinely don't know how I can continue doing this. Like, I, you know, the format
[05:31:37] itself lends itself to clips out of context so perfectly. And obviously, Abdul is fairly
[05:31:49] infallible. Like, this is, here's the point, here's the point, right? Abdul is basically
[05:31:55] Elizabeth Warren, but anti-Zionist and pro-Medicare for all. Like, the only thing that is quote-unquote
[05:32:02] radical about him is his position on American militarism, which happens to be the overwhelming
[05:32:08] majority position anyway. So it's a far more popular position than like what the average
[05:32:12] Democrat represents. But let's be real, the only reason why people attack him and call him a radical
[05:32:19] or even like try to lean into his associations, is because he's Muslim.
[05:32:29] And when I say people, I don't mean voters.
[05:32:31] I'm talking about consultants.
[05:32:33] I'm talking about the Republicans.
[05:32:35] I'm talking about right-wingers.
[05:32:37] I'm not talking about voters because I am a firm and committed believer in the theory
[05:32:43] that even racist people, even Islamophobic people, have otherwise redeemable qualities.
[05:32:49] I do it every day.
[05:32:50] I talk to people who despise me on a daily basis, given my name, given my background.
[05:32:57] I try to convince them, and I have successfully convinced them to no longer be reactionary.
[05:33:04] This is what this community is all about.
[05:33:06] It's about forgiveness.
[05:33:07] It's about rehabilitation.
[05:33:10] There's never been a moment in my life where I have felt entitled to, or demanded, someone
[05:33:20] vote for someone on the virtue that they have the best policies, because I understand that
[05:33:25] the fundamental principle of theoretical democracy is that you have to serve your voters.
[05:33:35] Extracting is about extracting concessions from your elected representatives.
[05:33:42] And because I believe, because I believe that OBLO's policies are great, because I believe
[05:33:57] that Oblu's policy platform is fantastic. That the only thing he needs to do is go out
[05:34:05] there and deliver that message to as many people as possible, meet them where they're
[05:34:10] at. And I know that he will win. It's that simple. It is kind of wild though. It is kind
[05:34:23] wild that like Republicans will say they want to murder the poor, that Haitians are eating cats
[05:34:29] and dogs, and there is not that same level of scrutiny. Like when you're on the left,
[05:34:34] when you're on the left, you can't even, you can't even say like consultants are being
[05:34:40] unbelievably unfair to a candidate, and it's definitely born out of their Islamophobic attitudes,
[05:34:49] their Islamophobic tendencies without the entire liberal media and the entirety of the Republican
[05:34:56] media class coming down on you and yelling about you. I hate that. I know this is ironically enough
[05:35:05] something that black and brown people understand very well. The very act of calling out racism
[05:35:15] in the eyes of the many is seen as far more consequential and far worse than
[05:35:22] the actual act of racism itself. Why are you rocking the boat? Why are you even
[05:35:30] calling this out? Why are you being disruptive? And it's a calculation that
[05:35:36] many people make when they're talking, right?
[05:35:41] women, black people, brown people, overall, trans people, you constantly have to
[05:35:47] moderate your perspective because you don't want others to
[05:35:53] reveal their position. When you see something that is bigoted, for example,
[05:35:59] when you hear something, hear someone that you respect say something bigoted,
[05:36:03] in your mind, you're like, do I call this out or do I not call this out? And the
[05:36:09] The reason why many don't call it out, and I talked about this with the Zoran Islamophobia
[05:36:16] a lot, especially when it got to like its peak with Andrew Cuomo.
[05:36:26] You don't always want to call it out because you don't want to hear from other people that
[05:36:31] you like and admire and appreciate because you're fearful that you're going to hear
[05:36:38] them agree that this other person wasn't being bigoted, this other person wasn't being racist.
[05:36:46] Very frustrating. Now, of course, on the other hand, I'm also far more forgiving of Islamophobia
[05:36:54] than most because I, at the end of the day, understand that these kinds of tendencies,
[05:37:00] these kinds of opinions are shaped by our social conditioning, what we learn, what we read, what
[05:37:09] we study. That's how people develop these sorts of attitudes. So once again, I'm endlessly charitable
[05:37:22] to people who even demonstrate reactionary thought because I know that they are ultimately redeemable.
[05:37:28] Right? Ultimately they can learn, ultimately they can be empathetic. It just still sucks though.
[05:37:38] It sucks because we live in a messaging environment, we live in a media environment where systemic
[05:37:49] Bigotry's systemic forms of discrimination that are deeply embedded in our societal attitudes
[05:37:58] and our understanding of the world make it a lot easier to launch an opposition to a
[05:38:05] progressive perspective.
[05:38:09] Make it a lot easier for someone to just say that guy is being a fucking piece of shit.
[05:38:13] So this goes back to the same thing I was saying about Islamophobia in general.
[05:38:20] Could you imagine if there was a Latino candidate or a woman candidate or a black candidate
[05:38:28] and someone connected to the campaign of a black candidate was frustrated with the level
[05:38:34] of racism that they were experiencing and then MSNBC, like Fox News would still be like
[05:38:39] look at this fucking woke Lord, right?
[05:38:42] News would absolutely clip that to be like, look at this fucking woke piece of shit.
[05:38:48] Complaining about anti-black racism is bullshit, but do you think MSNBC would do that?
[05:38:57] Do you think CNN would use that as a talking point?
[05:39:01] Do you think liberal outlets would use that as an attack, or would they try to be a little
[05:39:08] bit more understanding of the frustration that someone is experiencing in that moment.
[05:39:26] And I'll tie this back to something broader.
[05:39:33] I'll tie this back to what Mike Rogers is doing, because not to get all woke one with
[05:39:39] it, because you guys know I don't have that tendency at all.
[05:39:45] But I will say this, when we on the left or we as, you know, the broader anti-Trump coalition,
[05:39:55] includes liberals, turn around and deploy Islamophobic sentiment with such ease, we
[05:40:05] create a permission structure for more of it.
[05:40:08] And that's precisely how you arrive at from near attendant to Shannon Watts to motherfucking
[05:40:17] Mike Rogers deploying the exact same sentiment.
[05:40:22] And why shouldn't they?
[05:40:24] Why shouldn't they be Islamophobic?
[05:40:26] Because they've seen Democrats do the same thing already.
[05:40:30] Let's take a look.
[05:40:31] This is just the most base-boosted version of the same exact ideas.
[05:40:35] Oh, this guy's a radical terrorist.
[05:40:37] This guy's no good.
[05:40:39] He said, we got him.
[05:40:42] It's all he said on the phone.
[05:40:44] We on Panetta at that time was the CIA director and he calls down and said, there's some things
[05:40:50] we want to share with you.
[05:40:52] They had a mock-up of exactly where he was in his facility, so they had spent months
[05:41:00] working on all of this months, if not years.
[05:41:03] So we went through the process and then we went through the pictures and do you think
[05:41:07] that's Osama Bin Laden or not?
[05:41:08] And remember they weren't clear at that time, you know, you look at it and you go, okay,
[05:41:12] his gate is the same.
[05:41:13] I mean, it was pretty detailed discussions about every aspect of it because he had a
[05:41:19] pattern that he would go out walking about the same time every day in this
[05:41:24] yard because he was cooped up too. Remember the whole world was looking for him.
[05:41:27] I mean I came away. This is Mike Rogers. I spent my life hunting terrorists. I
[05:41:31] never in a million years thought I'd hear the words America deserved 9-11 but
[05:41:34] here we are, Michigan. We got a state to save. He's tying it back to Abdul El Saeed.
[05:41:39] He's literally saying like I hunted Osama bin Laden and now I'm hunting Abdul
[05:41:45] I'll say it that's literally what the argument is just watched as the acuity got better and better and better and better and better
[05:41:52] and then you know the director came down and said we're going to move on this
[05:41:57] get a call like two days later all the thing he said just talk about it was an incredible feeling
[05:42:07] watching special report on John Roberts in Washington
[05:42:10] I guess Mike Rogers was on Laura Ingram, and they did it too.
[05:42:17] They did it there as well.
[05:42:19] The clip.
[05:42:20] Getting down the border, he gave the GOP late today its marching orders.
[05:42:26] And what Republicans should say is that at the end of the year, you'll have nothing but
[05:42:31] death, squalor, poverty.
[05:42:35] 1.01 against this didn't it? Let them lose again.
[05:42:46] You'll have a life of hell and that's what happens every single time. You lose
[05:42:52] your home, you lose your apartment, and that's where the communists will take us
[05:42:57] 100%. When I watch Abdul, he's fully sh*****.
[05:43:03] here with Reaction Mike Rogers former Congressman and Michigan GOP Senate candidate. Of course
[05:43:08] he'll be facing off against El Sayed in November. Mike it's good to see you tonight. Now so
[05:43:15] he did the big it's time to come together speech tonight. He spent the last day as I
[05:43:21] said campaigning with Piker and even went to a pool party with him you know and that
[05:43:26] tight are we gonna see you in a tight black t-shirt Mike you're gonna try to out do him
[05:43:31] on the pack. Oh my god. Oh my god. Laura Ingraham is horny. What the fuck? That's weird, dude.
[05:43:45] So what? Because that seems to be his new campaign where tight black t-shirt with his
[05:43:50] pecks out
[05:43:51] all my god
[05:43:53] all my god
[05:43:59] i can class costume
[05:44:02] well and he wears the same shmedium uh... t-shirt uh... at every event
[05:44:07] you know it's crazy about this law i have to tell you as a guy that served in
[05:44:10] the united states military as a guy that was a special agent with the fb i
[05:44:14] kicking in doors for drug dealers
[05:44:16] and human traffickers and gangsters
[05:44:19] The guy that was the chairman of the house intelligence committee, I, I am shocked that
[05:44:24] I am running against the guy who believes that 9 11, uh, we just, America deserved
[05:44:30] 9 11.
[05:44:31] I mean, it's just shocking.
[05:44:32] Those never said that.
[05:44:35] And the only person that has said that also apologized for it.
[05:44:38] Once again, totally ridiculous to me that we have gotten here.
[05:44:42] And so all of his quips and all of his unserious acquisitions and microphone jibes, this guy
[05:44:48] guy is dangerous for America. I mean, it is, he's just absolutely dangerous for America.
[05:44:53] Matter of fact, when we had a guy load up a car with explosives, drive it into a synagogue
[05:44:58] in Michigan, he basically could not really condemn them.
[05:45:02] And matter of fact, it's so awesome that, I mean, look, it's so awesome that these are
[05:45:09] the exact same lines of attack that he just withstood in the fucking primary by Democrats.
[05:45:16] And now the Republicans are doing it, fucking awesome, fucking great, by the way, okay?
[05:45:21] Great, very cool.
[05:45:23] That's number one.
[05:45:24] This is ironically what I was talking about when I said the Islamophobia coming from the
[05:45:28] fucking campaign consultants and the DC media bubble.
[05:45:33] This was literally what I was referencing.
[05:45:35] This was what I was complaining about, okay?
[05:45:38] That's number one.
[05:45:39] Number two, number two.
[05:45:47] The silver lining here is that at least he got hit with all of this and it failed, okay?
[05:45:54] He got hit with all of this and it fucking failed.
[05:45:58] He still won.
[05:45:59] Not only did he get hit with all of this, but he also got hit with this as hard as you
[05:46:03] possibly can be hit, but perhaps not so hard that it would actually throw off voters a
[05:46:10] little bit.
[05:46:11] Because the Islamophobia that Abdul Al Sayed received in the primary amongst Democrats
[05:46:19] was a little bit more sinister.
[05:46:22] It was at least designed in a way, it was at least designed in a way where it was maybe
[05:46:29] perhaps a little bit more subtle.
[05:46:32] don't have the capacity to be subtle with their racism. And I think too much of that
[05:46:39] is going to come across as gross, okay? Too much of it is going to be gross, no tact whatsoever
[05:46:48] when this dickhead turns around and goes, you know, Abdul Al Sayed, you know, he reminds
[05:46:52] me of a son of Aladdin. People are going to be like, yeah, you're gross, man. This is
[05:46:56] a fucking dude that was born here. This is a dude that became a doctor here. He just wants
[05:47:01] give us fucking healthcare and you're like, you know, saying he's, or some of it on and that's messed up.
[05:47:12] The other side of the story is the defense against this is other Democrats, not named Hasan.
[05:47:20] Democrats named, you know, Mallory or Haley, Democrats named Shannon need to be the fucking
[05:47:26] first line of defense against this kind of bigotry. Okay. White women are the first bastion
[05:47:35] of defense against racist bullshit like this. But the problem is, and this goes back to my
[05:47:42] argument from yesterday, the first responders, the first line of defense against this kind of
[05:47:48] bigotry
[05:47:51] Ended up dishing out said bigotry
[05:47:54] Over and over again that same exact bigotry that is being championed and channeled by mike rogers now
[05:48:00] will this cause
[05:48:02] some liberals
[05:48:04] To go back and take a look at the way that they have communicated
[05:48:12] Will this be an about face moment
[05:48:18] I don't know. I hope so. Because if left alone, if left unchecked, this will make discourse far more toxic. This will make discourse far worse.
[05:48:48] Yeah. Why liberal women lost their minds over Trump's Muslim ban as they should have, but
[05:48:56] now those same people are fine with Islamophobia. Yeah.
[05:48:59] Back the, uh, the, the rabbi there was pretty upset about the whole thing. He is just so
[05:49:06] dangerous, so radical, so leftist. I've been talking to union guys today from different
[05:49:12] unions who are excited to get behind our campaign. We're trying to put shot back in every high
[05:49:17] high school were reminding people that 200,000 manufacturing jobs lost here in the state
[05:49:23] under Democrats.
[05:49:24] This is a changed election, and he represents why we need to change direction.
[05:49:28] His top ally, really, Piker, is calling out the Democrats who did not vote for Syed, and
[05:49:34] this support...
[05:49:35] It's not...fuck, dude.
[05:49:37] ...was a come-together moment.
[05:49:40] Watch this.
[05:49:42] You are all unbelievably Islamophobic pieces of shit, okay?
[05:49:46] You literally called the dude a terrorist for like no voter called him a terrorist. You know what I mean?
[05:49:53] Voters were voting for Haley Stevens because they thought Haley Stevens would be easier
[05:50:01] To to Haley Stevens would have an easier time
[05:50:05] defeating
[05:50:07] Mike Rogers
[05:50:08] When I'm talking about like you're all is on vote because you called him a terrorist
[05:50:13] You said his dog like he was a fake doctor. No voters said he was a fake doctor
[05:50:18] I'm talking about the fucking consultants and the narratives they try to concoct in the fucking primary
[05:50:24] And it's ironic because the stupid fucking Fox News dipshits are doing the same thing now
[05:50:37] For months on end and like called him a sexist misogynist terrorist
[05:50:42] bad candidate, doesn't fake doctor when he has like two degrees.
[05:50:49] And now you're gonna sit there and be like, well, you know, you really got to come to
[05:50:52] me now.
[05:50:53] Look, what are you talking about?
[05:50:56] Now they want to come together and they're calling their own voters Islamophobic pieces
[05:51:02] of you know what, how does that work?
[05:51:07] Mike, why is it really like Islamophobia?
[05:51:08] I'll show you Islamophobia.
[05:51:11] It doesn't work.
[05:51:12] And we have already started our conversations
[05:51:15] with people who voted for his Democrat opponent
[05:51:19] about coming to our side and sending a clear message
[05:51:23] that this kind of radicalism,
[05:51:25] this kind of meanness and divisiveness
[05:51:27] is not the right direction for a state like Michigan.
[05:51:31] I mean, my God, Laura.
[05:51:32] dog, you are a Republican. You eat Trump's asshole for breakfast, lunch and dinner. What
[05:51:39] the fuck do you mean? This kind of divisiveness. What are you saying? Your first ad as soon
[05:51:48] as Abdul won the fucking primary was saying he loves 9 11 your second ad was equating
[05:51:55] him to Osama bin Laden. You are trying to present yourself as though you are hunting
[05:52:02] him like you hunted. You're fucking lying. You didn't, I don't think this guy hunted
[05:52:06] bin Laden anyway, but like you're, you're equating him to bin Laden and saying, I'm going to
[05:52:10] hunt the terrorist in the least subtle piece of Islamophobic candidacy that I campaign
[05:52:17] that I've seen. Okay.
[05:52:23] Man, Fox News really just sitting here clippin' shit. No, dude, it's not.
[05:52:26] It wasn't even fucking Fox News that clipped this.
[05:52:30] Last year, we were 44th in education when, and our fourth graders can't read at
[05:52:34] the fourth grade level, three out of four of them can't.
[05:52:37] And so we're saying, Hey, look, there's a better way forward and it doesn't have
[05:52:41] to be what he's selling. It's radical. It's anti-semitic.
[05:52:45] matter of fact, I argue they blew past anti-Semitic. They just don't like Jews. They make it very
[05:52:51] clear. Wait, how do you blow past anti-Semitic to not liking Jews? That's what anti-Semitism
[05:52:57] is. This guy's so fucking stupid. He came and do woke right. I love that these guys'
[05:53:02] position always is like, yeah, D, except for love in Israel. No D, except for love in Israel.
[05:53:09] That's it. And then he came and do that right where he's like, you know, anti, they went
[05:53:13] pass anti-Semitism. They just shred up, don't like Jews. What is this?
[05:53:33] Haley Stevens Voter says he'll vote Republican to General. Bob Dwell say wins Democratic nomination.
[05:53:37] Davis Salama, 48. Anesthesiologist from West Bloomfield will vote for Haley in November
[05:53:41] if she were to win today, but if Abdul wins today, we'll vote for Mike Rogers in November.
[05:53:44] He said nothing in the extremes lie trouble. So proud of our dad, Joseph Salama for sharing
[05:53:49] some of his story. Volunteer in Israel and news nation this morning.
[05:53:53] Yeah, I don't think this is like the average, uh, Haley Stevens voter. I think this is an
[05:53:59] extreme case, which is why that is an extreme case. And I don't think Abdul is, is going
[05:54:08] after those voters anyway. What checked the date on the post? November 17th, 2023? What?
[05:54:15] Okay, yeah, he fucking flew to Israel to...
[05:54:25] Like this the type of person, this the type of person who's never going to vote for a
[05:54:29] low side, like it makes sense why they vote for at least evens. They might even already
[05:54:32] be a Republican.
[05:54:40] Professor Jeff relax, endorsing out the low side today is a clear all time low point for
[05:54:43] Senator Schumer. Schumer will go down as one of the most traitorous Jews in world history.
[05:54:46] He'll also soon be primary on a politics by L. Say it's French Schumer is truly evil.
[05:54:51] Like this is the one time where Chuck Schumer is actually behaving as a competent party
[05:54:56] leader, and these guys are fucking yelling at him. Dude, he can't do anything about this.
[05:55:01] Okay. This is like, what do you mean? This is the one no, no zone. Okay. It doesn't matter
[05:55:08] how much he loves Israel. It doesn't matter how much he loves APAC. Like he has to get
[05:55:12] a Senate majority. Okay. That is like, there are varying degrees. There are varying degrees
[05:55:22] of loving Israel. And I don't think Chuck Schumer is at that level where he's gonna
[05:55:27] be like, I'm casting aside the fucking Senate majority. No, he has to fucking lock in. This
[05:55:35] is the one thing. This is the one thing he has to do. No matter what, he still, he never
[05:55:39] endorsed Zoran, right? He didn't have to do that. That was also kind of unconscionable.
[05:55:46] He never endorsed Zoran, but this is one of those moments where he kind of has to do
[05:55:50] this, regardless. Also, one of the most traitorous Jews in world history. Oh my God. Oh my God,
[05:56:05] dude, you are so insane. This man fucking loves Israel so much. I can't believe I cannot
[05:56:12] believe how psychotic some people are.
[05:56:34] They talk about it often, they keep talk using that kind of language.
[05:56:38] Yeah, he has to do this because this gives him a chance for more power as a majority leader which
[05:56:42] You know, I don't know which direction he'll wield that power in I don't think he will do much with it
[05:56:49] I don't know what his calculation is there, but like he kind of has to do that
[05:56:52] There's just no other way. That's the one job that he has
[05:57:00] I mean the Jews are responsible apparently for everything okay once again once again once again once again
[05:57:05] Again, Trump supporter complaining about mean language,
[05:57:07] which is insane.
[05:57:08] Trump supporter complaining about bigotry,
[05:57:09] which is insane.
[05:57:10] Also,
[05:57:16] I can't help but notice how identical this commentary is
[05:57:19] from everything that I heard,
[05:57:22] to everything that I heard thus far.
[05:57:24] And once again, I feel like we're losing sight
[05:57:29] of the main through line here.
[05:57:35] These are people who defend the Epstein class
[05:57:39] These are people who defend Trump's corruption
[05:57:43] These are people who defend the amount like unbelievable mass corruption that Trump has done Trump's incompetence the Trump administration's violence
[05:57:52] and
[05:57:53] on top of that
[05:57:55] Every conversation that these dickheads have about anti-semitism should always be met with
[05:58:01] because they're having a conversation not about actual anti-Semitism, but about, you know, anti-Israel sentiment.
[05:58:06] So every single conversation that they try to cynically talk about, where they cynically try to talk about anti-Semitism, should be met with,
[05:58:11] one, you literally are the anti-DEI party, okay, and two, you literally are Israel first. You are Israel first, America second, maybe.
[05:58:22] Okay? That's it. I am not above saying we are the real America first party. I am not
[05:58:31] above saying we are the real peace ticket. Okay? And that is real. And there are a lot
[05:58:38] of Republicans who are pissed off about this Israel shit. And there are certainly a fuck
[05:58:42] ton of independence too. It's the easiest message of all time. Just go out there and
[05:58:47] be like these guys want to take all your fucking tax dollars and ship it overseas to Israel.
[05:58:53] They want to send your sons and daughters to go die at the behest of Israel as the entire
[05:58:58] planet's fucking energy supplies diminish day in day out.
[05:59:07] It's free money.
[05:59:08] It's free ball.
[05:59:15] That is, that in data centers, I think are the two most like cross-party appeal statements
[05:59:21] that you can just constantly fucking hit.
[05:59:25] And obviously with Mike Rogers, given his pharmaceutical lobby connections, like you
[05:59:30] can connect him directly back to the opioid crisis as well.
[05:59:36] Like, so when these guys talk about like violence or all these guys want to like throw Americans
[05:59:40] in jail or throw or kill Americans with their dangerous comments, you can be like, dude,
[05:59:44] You killed Americans.
[05:59:45] You put a formative role in the opioid crisis.
[05:59:48] You have killed a shit ton of Michiganders.
[05:59:54] That's it.
[05:59:55] I want to say very quickly, I know you're running out of time, that he had a message
[05:59:59] for you today.
[06:00:00] He did an interview on NBC.
[06:00:02] And this is how he's going to try to frame you and get the heat off himself.
[06:00:07] Watch.
[06:00:08] Mike, I'm going to say it right here.
[06:00:10] I know you're going to say no because you're a coward.
[06:00:12] Five debates.
[06:00:13] All right?
[06:00:14] If you're willing to stand with me and have a conversation, you and I both know that you
[06:00:19] will wither in front of your own crimes, but I'm going to make sure Michiganders know about
[06:00:24] them.
[06:00:25] The time we're done, you are not going to have safe quarter from people holding you
[06:00:29] accountable to what you've done for them here in Michigan.
[06:00:32] We will send you back to Florida where you belong.
[06:00:36] So Mike, you say go back and go off a minute.
[06:00:38] He's trying to cast you as that.
[06:00:40] Well, he's the working class hero.
[06:00:42] This guy hasn't had a real job. I don't think in his entire life. He's never gotten his hands dirty
[06:00:48] What are you talking about? He's literally oh my god Wayne County Public Health like he's a doctor
[06:00:55] What are you talking about man? What are you talking about? He's an epidemiologist and
[06:01:00] He worked for the Detroit Public Health Department. He was a public servant. You're fucking insane
[06:01:06] You're a pharmaceutical lobbyist.
[06:01:11] He's a silver spoon kind of guy.
[06:01:13] Listen, like most socialists you know, Laura, they've come from pretty privileged lives,
[06:01:19] pampered lives.
[06:01:20] He's exactly that guy.
[06:01:22] And so we're not worried about any of that.
[06:01:24] I built Chrysler LeBaron's on the assembly line here in Michigan.
[06:01:29] I am part of the Michigan fabric here that helped put America on wheels, and I'm very
[06:01:34] proud of that.
[06:01:35] my blue collar roots, I love all of that.
[06:01:39] And so I had to say this then,
[06:01:40] this that language that you heard,
[06:01:42] he wants to be mean, he wants to be divisive.
[06:01:45] We have big problems here in this state.
[06:01:47] I mentioned the 200,000 lost manufacturing jobs.
[06:01:50] We also have the highest utility rates in the Midwest.
[06:01:53] We have the highest auto insurance rates in the country.
[06:01:56] We're 45th in education.
[06:02:00] And guess what, you can't buy a home
[06:02:01] until you're 40 years old.
[06:02:03] I'm gonna change all of that.
[06:02:04] And that's what's connecting with voters.
[06:02:06] All right, Mike, thank you very much.
[06:02:08] And here's another potential assassination attempt
[06:02:10] against the president, again,
[06:02:11] involving one of his golf courses.
[06:02:13] Tonight, we're getting new details about.
[06:02:16] Ugh.
[06:02:21] Heard a lot coming from Mike Rogers,
[06:02:23] but the one thing I didn't hear was,
[06:02:25] yes, I will debate you five times.
[06:02:34] If Senator MSNBC even said anything negative about Rogers yet, no, of course not.
[06:02:46] If you're, look, I think it's pretty obvious that if you are, you know, close to the center
[06:02:53] of power and the Democratic Party, no, you're never going to get the same negative covers
[06:02:57] that an insurgent candidate will get.
[06:03:00] It's just not how it goes.
[06:03:02] Not.
[06:03:03] My expectation is never, my expectation is never going to happen.
[06:03:06] I suspect, I mean, my garage will have to debate Abdul for sure.
[06:03:11] I just don't think it'll be five times.
[06:03:17] But this is cool.
[06:03:18] I mean, he's just crying.
[06:03:19] He's being soy and crying and crying and saying like it's a, you're being a big meanie, bobeanie.
[06:03:30] Why don't you love Israel?
[06:03:32] stuff. Well, yeah. Anyway, that's all I got for today, fat. Fats. What the fuck? Chat.
[06:03:56] You can probably tell why I need to end it here because I'm so tired.
[06:04:01] Yeah, I saw the Jacob Abdul clip.
[06:04:05] It sucks because I love Jacob.
[06:04:06] I know Jacob.
[06:04:07] I saw Jacob in Michigan literally the other day and he's out here cooking my ass.
[06:04:14] I'm Biden.
[06:04:15] I'm Biden-ing.
[06:04:16] Anyway, you're fat shaming us like QT fat shames you.
[06:04:22] Yeah, they're giving us on pike or fat shames voters in Michigan.
[06:04:26] It's on biker fat shames all voters in Michigan, obdolosad.
[06:04:33] What do you have to say about this?
[06:04:41] I'm sundown.
[06:04:42] Oh shit.
[06:04:43] Oops.
[06:04:44] I am literally sundowning.
[06:04:46] I clicked on the wrong link.
[06:04:48] Jesus Christ.
[06:04:49] Anyway, everybody, that's all I got for tonight.
[06:04:54] I will see you tomorrow.
[06:04:55] already know what's up I'm glad I'm back I'm glad I'm back home finally with
[06:05:01] family and friends
[06:05:03] Kaya
[06:05:04] Love you all see you tomorrow peace
[06:05:08] Stunning rope by introduction, starring off the day
[06:05:14] All the chatter's trickling in, I'll sell people hay
[06:05:22] Sunny Los Angeles, California says a song
[06:05:29] Stunlock to the stunlock to the top is just begun
[06:05:38] Cause there is again a sunny streamin'
[06:05:46] A son is streaming, a son is streaming,
[06:05:50] There is again a son is streaming,
[06:05:56] A son is streaming.
[06:06:00] Leave me with a Chinese train,
[06:06:05] Telling kind of place.
[06:06:08] Son and husband, child of those
[06:06:13] And giving greening's grace
[06:06:18] Zoran winning NYC
[06:06:21] Walked two back with the force
[06:06:26] The Rogan of the left to me
[06:06:29] A dumb himbo still on course
[06:06:34] The Charlie Kirk assassination
[06:06:37] The fear and online show
[06:06:39] Paid for fucking years of this, I'm planning more to go
[06:06:49] Doing fun stuff tomorrow, throw PBS up on the screen
[06:06:57] A man made her reaction brought to you by this life's dream
[06:07:05] Cause there he is again, the son is streaming, the son is streaming
[06:07:15] There he is again, the son is streaming, the son is streaming
[06:07:27] Can't doubt the DNC at a rail when marchs look good
[06:07:33] Committing the propaganda to shut down people's throats
[06:07:39] CBS Israeli news, a coup, a regime falls
[06:07:47] A full-blown fascist takeover and still the duty calls
[06:07:55] Total radicalization coming out to sea
[06:08:03] The system will always fail, it's up to you and me
[06:08:11] All these daily streets, whether short or weather long
[06:08:19] I've helped millions of people keep it moving right along
[06:08:27] Cause there he is again, a son is streaming
[06:08:34] A son is streaming
[06:08:37] There he is again, a son is streaming
[06:08:44] A son is streaming
[06:08:48] But hey, what can you say that's BBS for you?
[06:08:54] But he'll play games real soon, just you wait
[06:09:01] Say hey, what can you say that's BBS for you?
[06:09:07] But he'll move on real soon, just you wait
[06:09:11] Ba da da, ba da da, ba da da da da da da da
[06:09:15] What can you say, hey, that's BBS for you?
[06:09:20] I hope all your lawns will soon
[06:09:23] Just you wait
[06:09:28] What can you say, hey, that's BBS for you?
[06:09:33] I hope to just advice real soon
[06:09:36] Just you wait
[06:09:40] But hey, what can you say, that's BBS for you?
[06:09:45] Brought to my views like you, just you wait, just you wait