Streamer Profile Picture

HasanAbi

MILO DETAINED BY ICE🤬FLASH FLOOD IN NEPAL💢FREAKY FRIDAY!🦎AIPAC BOSSCALL CONT🦎🤬IRAN WAR CONT💢MANUFACTURED OUTRAGE💢

08-28-2026 · 6h 46m

⚠️ VOD is unavailable.

hasanabi VODs on twitch

Broadcasts 30+ hours are truncated. View the Raw Transcript VTT for the full version.


[00:10:00] Dirtbag left Hassan Piker, pro-terrorism, pro-Hamas, Hassan Piker, Hassan Piker, Hassan Piker,
[00:10:30] Hussan... Hussan... Hussan...
[00:10:35] Hey, man.
[00:10:36] Have you ever heard someone mention the stri-sand effect and wondered what they were talking
[00:10:46] about?
[00:10:47] This phenomena is named after actress Barbara Strijsand.
[00:10:49] Sometimes, when you try to cover something up you end up bringing more attention to it
[00:10:53] than if you would just let things be.
[00:10:54] things speak. The Assemblyman will not
[00:11:00] announce Hassan Piper who said America deserved 9-11, dude. The Assemblyman is
[00:11:06] in response to Hassan Piper. He says America deserved 9-11. There you go.
[00:11:11] There you have it. My friends, we have toppled a political dynasty. Now to the
[00:11:16] Michigan Senate race where Elsai Ed is campaigning in Michigan, appearing on
[00:11:21] stage at two Michigan campaign rallies.
[00:11:23] He's coactively campaigning alongside Piker.
[00:11:26] The man who said Hezbollah's flag is his favorite because it's goat.
[00:11:29] Why would you align yourself for a raging anti-Semite
[00:11:32] type who has defended Hamas terrorists?
[00:11:34] Calling them the lesser of two is, Israel's compared to the government's evils.
[00:11:37] Come on, let's try.
[00:11:38] Lesser of two, that's what I find a bridge too far.
[00:11:42] When I went up to my good friend, Chad, and said,
[00:11:45] hey, you walk in truth and we're a controversial statement of a son.
[00:11:48] The Sompikers even chat to PT when out of its way to soften the edges of Hassan and give me context.
[00:11:55] Thanks, but no thanks. Chat to PT.
[00:11:58] Hassan Piker's campaign poison. Placing yourself on the wrong side of a 90-10 issue is only going to make you look bad.
[00:12:04] It's going to be good for me. It's going to be good for the candidates that I work with.
[00:12:08] Turns out it was true. Abdul El Sayed at 27% over largely.
[00:12:14] You're like heroes, everybody's in the queue. That's right. Welcome to the broadcast. Thank you for having me. Oh my god
[00:12:35] That was insane, okay guys
[00:12:40] Guys I
[00:12:42] Don't think I likes to be on camera anymore
[00:12:44] I'm not even kidding when I say this, randomly when I leave my home, which is
[00:12:56] not always, but when I leave my home at times, I'll come back and she's laying on
[00:13:01] this bed. Okay, in the morning she'll come and sit down when I'm working on my
[00:13:06] desk. She was laying there the entire time until I turned the camera on and
[00:13:14] She was like, all right, I'm out.
[00:13:15] And now she's back.
[00:13:21] Anyway, uh, what's going on, everybody?
[00:13:24] I hope everyone's having a fantastic evening, afternoon,
[00:13:26] pre-new, no matter where you are in the world.
[00:13:28] She's like, I don't want to fucking work, dad.
[00:13:30] I don't want to work.
[00:13:31] Like we're chill if we're not on camera and when we're hanging out.
[00:13:36] I don't want to work.
[00:13:38] This idea that I, I'm back here.
[00:13:42] We're all of the nasty Fox news weirdos to see don't like it
[00:13:52] But in any case folks a beautiful day some wonderful day it is so goddamn humid out here by the way
[00:13:59] Unbelievably humid Southern California apparently is the most humid place in the United States of America right now. Can you believe it?
[00:14:06] It's like we're we're gay or Florida. I don't want to say gay Florida because Florida is pretty gay, but we are now gay or Florida
[00:14:14] Which is unbearable
[00:14:17] But it's a very special day folks, and I think a lot of you know why it's special. It's not special because
[00:14:25] Oh, I saw this one it's not special because I
[00:14:29] I worked out this morning. It's not special because I am back to post and shirtless
[00:14:37] Videos because you know the block is hot. I just genuinely was like the block is hot
[00:14:43] Fuck it time to post shirtless workout videos again
[00:14:51] Block is too hot folks
[00:14:59] I did this for Dingle.
[00:15:10] It's a tactical, chartless video drop.
[00:15:26] to cut that back fat and love handles down, okay? I can't tell you what I think you should
[00:15:35] do to yourself, but I'm thinking it. Won't stop me from thinking it. You should kiss
[00:15:45] yourself really hard in any case. In any case, we're back. Great blast off meme with
[00:16:03] Puss in Boots. Yes. All right. That's a good one. Where was I? Shout out to your mortal
[00:16:10] I mean, Maya, he got engaged. I know. I know. I saw that. I saw that. So it made me angry.
[00:16:23] It made me angry to my core. She's having such a great time out there hanging out with bears and
[00:16:29] now also hanging out with a husband. What's next, you know? But we'll get into all of that and more.
[00:16:39] Am I getting engaged before Granite of God of Sakes? That's funny.
[00:16:49] Folks!
[00:16:53] I was saying, is that a reason why it's a good day in a special day?
[00:17:01] Or is there a different reason for why it's a special day?
[00:17:04] day. I think many of you know why it's a special day ladies and gentlemen is not
[00:17:11] because my Loe and Alpolis has been arrested by ICE. It's because it's Friday.
[00:17:17] That's right ladies and gentlemen, boys, girls and ambies, it is Friday. More like
[00:17:25] Christlay, we already know, you already know, you've been around the block. Now we celebrate
[00:17:30] Friday's around these parts because our forefathers in the labor movement
[00:17:34] but laugh and hard and tirelessly to ensure that we had a five-day work week
[00:17:42] thank you Liam, thank you anarchists, thank you communists, thank you socialists
[00:17:46] thank you trade unionists for the beautiful celebration for Friday
[00:17:52] we're gonna make these vibes immaculate folks we're gonna make sure the vibes
[00:17:58] regardless of the ATAC attacks, regardless of the weirdos out there, we are going to do our very best.
[00:18:08] That's a promise!
[00:18:12] It's the goddamn weekend, baby.
[00:18:15] You got a worker political cartoon a little bit more positive than the other ones.
[00:18:26] Oh my god.
[00:18:28] Dude, this is the best, I cannot, you guys don't understand.
[00:18:33] All of the hate campaign, the hate mob, the lynch mob, all of it is worth it.
[00:18:43] That boomer political satirists keep making political cartoons with me in it.
[00:18:50] And I love it.
[00:18:53] I need all of these framed.
[00:18:56] I need the originals.
[00:18:57] need to frame them. You guys do not, I know every time I say this, but like at some point I hope you'll recognize this like
[00:19:05] there the significance of political cartoons in my development and my upbringing, my life is so, so huge.
[00:19:14] To be fair, being defended or being attacked by political satire, political cartoonists,
[00:19:32] it doesn't matter to me. I'm just happy to be mentioned by these goats. This is a,
[00:19:38] unfortunately a dying art. And it's one that has been so influential in my
[00:19:47] understanding of the world and my development. So I love this. I love this
[00:19:52] so much. It makes me so happy. Do you see this one? Yes, I love this one too. This
[00:20:00] was great AF Bronco. I retweeted it. But yeah. We got to redo the background to include these, yes.
[00:20:22] Incells and shambles. USDA has issued a recall of frozen boholytrican products at the highest
[00:20:27] with level indicating a reasonable chance of serious adverse health consequences or death?
[00:20:32] After the products were sold without federal respect, death? The chicken tendies?
[00:20:40] What now? Asmongoles remaining marginal American audience of MAGA
[00:20:49] is going to wither away.
[00:20:50] Okay. And now the dinos are actually extinct for real. Bro, the new Jubilee vid is so bad.
[00:21:01] Dog, if you think, here are a list of things that I would rather do than watch a Jubilee
[00:21:08] video with the sex pest versus a beanie boy. Okay, kill myself with a gun. Kill myself
[00:21:17] in a medieval-style torture device. Walk into traffic with a blindfold with the hopes that
[00:21:27] a truck murders me. Strap myself to one of those auto cannons that they have on top of the USS
[00:21:39] Lincoln with the hopes that they fire me in a comical manner in the direction of the Strait of
[00:21:44] Hormuz as I evaporate.
[00:21:49] Uh, what else?
[00:21:50] What else?
[00:21:51] What else?
[00:21:52] Stab myself in the eyeballs with rusty nails over and over again until
[00:21:58] those rusty nails penetrate my brain through my eye socket.
[00:22:04] Have I made it clear enough to you what I would rather do than watch
[00:22:13] that piece of garbanzo beans.
[00:22:24] I hope that was clear.
[00:22:28] Why are you dressed like a Jewish New Yorker?
[00:22:32] What?
[00:22:38] What the fuck is that?
[00:22:40] What is happening?
[00:22:41] Bro, I said, I said, personally, that the vibes were going to be immaculate today.
[00:22:54] And people are really testing it, you know?
[00:22:59] Another one from the Washington Times, don't judge me about my close friend, Hassan Piker,
[00:23:03] Abdul El Sayed, American Zeran, I love it, death to Israel, I love Hamas.
[00:23:07] Why did they draw me like this?
[00:23:10] They made me tall and skinny.
[00:23:24] At least they made my head to body ratio adequate.
[00:23:29] Norm Finkelstein responds to his Sompiger outrage?
[00:23:32] Wait, what?
[00:23:34] Hell yeah.
[00:23:37] Have you seen this Gliber Curtis Liewa defending the Interfahta?
[00:23:46] You see next to me an Arab American, he supports the Interfahta.
[00:23:50] He disagrees with Jewish Americans who are part of the Guardian Angels, they debate.
[00:23:55] But when it comes to protecting synagogues or mosques or people who need to put aside
[00:23:59] their differences, no weapons, no violence, and protect everybody equally, that's the
[00:24:05] answer.
[00:24:06] He's got a great point.
[00:24:08] He's got a great point.
[00:24:10] I reject.
[00:24:12] I reject.
[00:24:14] American Arab.
[00:24:16] I shake his hand.
[00:24:18] But you'll disagree with him so vigorously.
[00:24:20] It would never go out.
[00:24:22] It would keep you from working together.
[00:24:24] We have advanced.
[00:24:26] We know what we're in discussions we had in history.
[00:24:28] I'm a Roman Catholic.
[00:24:30] I know there were Catholics who condemned Jews as money changes.
[00:24:32] We are guilty of that along with so many in humanity.
[00:24:34] So many in humanity, but to undo the rules doesn't mean to utilize the same tactics.
[00:24:40] I respect this man who was in the concentration camp because he should be the first to raise
[00:24:45] up his head.
[00:24:46] Yet, he sees dignity, pride, and a future in which-
[00:24:50] Dude, what the fuck?
[00:24:53] He's so awesome.
[00:24:55] Oh my god.
[00:24:58] Curtis Lever was unlocking dialogue options in the 90s that I did not even think existed.
[00:25:07] Also, there was the tradition of like robust debate back in the day on TV. Like you had
[00:25:16] actual public intellectuals, you had, I guess you had more respect for discourse.
[00:25:23] Someone went beast mode on fox defending you
[00:25:27] Fox's Julie bandera's furious is damn sure. Yeah. Oh, it's Corbin
[00:25:34] Yeah, it's it's Corbin Trent, uh former aOC comms person, right co-founder of justice dams
[00:25:43] Yeah
[00:25:45] That's my guy
[00:25:46] I can't understand. Um, why?
[00:25:48] We'll watch this in a second. This will probably go viral if he went crazy mode on it
[00:25:57] They've been juicing your YouTube, uh, no, I think it's it might be the algo shift it might be the algo change
[00:26:03] But I also think it's not they
[00:26:07] There is no they it's us
[00:26:10] The editor team is
[00:26:15] Working faster than ever before to upload clips
[00:26:18] And also, we have changed our strategy, and we're raining in at least four videos that we are going
[00:26:32] to upload. We're raining it in with the fan channels. So if you're on one of those fan channels, please
[00:26:39] put your email, put a contact email in your description.
[00:26:43] So we can coordinate. There's a Discord server as well.
[00:26:48] You understand? Say this in Vietnamese too, please. Okay, I don't know how to say it in Vietnamese yet.
[00:27:00] But
[00:27:03] Put topics and titles, please what do you mean?
[00:27:12] The house and I have a YouTube channel team. Yeah, this is how we run. This is how we're moving
[00:27:16] This is how we're living. Okay. This is how the the editing team is operating nowadays
[00:27:22] My day is 6 a.m. To noon and I'm not crazy you're crazy for thinking it takes 24 hours
[00:27:26] Just like some dude in a cave did 300 years ago. My second day starts at noon and goes till 6 p.m
[00:27:31] That's day two and then the next day is 6 p.m. To midnight what I've done now is I have changed a manipulated time
[00:27:37] I now get 21 days a week stack that up over a month
[00:27:39] I'm gonna kick your butt stack it up over a year your toast stack it up over five years
[00:27:43] My entire life is different than it would have been otherwise
[00:27:48] Yeah, no, that's what I that's that's the speech I gave
[00:27:53] Uh, the editors, that's the speech I gave Austin ox and he understood it.
[00:28:00] I don't know how I don't know.
[00:28:02] I was just kind of riffing and I was just making shit up and he was totally locked
[00:28:08] in.
[00:28:08] He got it.
[00:28:08] He was like, that's right.
[00:28:10] That's, that's our mission.
[00:28:11] You know, Fox news is still crying about you.
[00:28:13] Yeah.
[00:28:13] That's never going to stop.
[00:28:14] Fox news host loses it after all and gets calls out there.
[00:28:16] No, I'm not lying.
[00:28:17] I'm buying it.
[00:28:17] That's not what he said.
[00:28:18] I've got the full quote.
[00:28:19] You want to hear it?
[00:28:23] You look a little bit different in this video. No, no, no, this is what I look like without all the filters on my camera
[00:28:30] I I do have the the buttery the the the buttery leather skin
[00:28:36] of a 75 year old German pensioner
[00:28:40] that's
[00:28:42] visiting the Turkish coastline and
[00:28:45] And and enjoying the agency. That's the that is a very specific look
[00:28:51] You can only arrive at this look if you are putting actual Coca-Cola on your skin in an
[00:28:59] effort to get that perfect leathery tan. Yeah, I have the classic, I also have the
[00:29:13] classic taxidermy hairline, as you can see right here. But a lot of that stems from the fact that
[00:29:23] your one day is three days for me, right? You are a fool. You live your day out in 24-hour
[00:29:31] sequences. In the time that it takes you to live one day, I live three. And that's why I'm aging
[00:29:39] in triple the time.
[00:29:43] I
[00:29:50] Yeah, Yana's varifog is this what the media does to you
[00:29:58] Box I didn't kill him all right
[00:30:00] This for your broadcast so looks like I'm screaming I killed Earl Milford startling confession tonight at 11
[00:30:07] I'm aging like that, but I need like three days to get as much stuff as one normal person
[00:30:16] day.
[00:30:17] What does that mean?
[00:30:18] Oh, yeah, we're going to look at data Republican, small r data Republican, who is a Pentagon
[00:30:28] official apparently.
[00:30:31] That's another story we're going to get to later, obviously.
[00:30:36] Yeah. Did I even blast off? No, I didn't.
[00:30:39] I just started memeing around and this is it's this is all because of Curtis
[00:30:43] Lever, folks. Curtis Lever fucked me up. Okay.
[00:30:48] He did. He did the damn thing.
[00:30:49] He messed me up with his incredible, charismatic speech
[00:30:59] on television in the 90s, defending the intifada and all this good stuff.
[00:31:03] Oh, Curtis, how I love you. All right. So, so let's blast off. There's not much personal news to discuss. Honestly, I didn't do anything last night.
[00:31:15] I did the I finished my interview with the with the reporter. It was actually interesting. It was somewhat contentious. He said he was a reporter that had lived in Jerusalem.
[00:31:27] Jerusalem, he lived in Israel, so he said that I was obsessed with Israel.
[00:31:39] And I thought that was really interesting, and I was like, why do you say that?
[00:31:43] It's a pretty important subject for contemporary political discourse.
[00:31:50] I got the lobby after me, you know.
[00:31:53] It was an interesting conversation, so I'm excited to see what comes out of it.
[00:32:00] They're mad Obama, Joe Biden, and Kamala haven't condemned you.
[00:32:06] Ronan McAnal complains that Chuck Schumer, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden haven't
[00:32:09] condemned to Sampakar.
[00:32:10] I mean, it's pretty easy for them to do so, but yeah.
[00:32:20] Yeah. Your op is up. I know. I know. Best surprise in my life and easiest yes of my life.
[00:32:31] My hega is now engaged to be married. The real question is, the real question is this.
[00:32:46] Will she do the damn thing and make me her bridesmaid?
[00:32:55] QT Cinderella, the gauntlet has been thrown down.
[00:33:00] Will I be the bridesmaid for Myahiga?
[00:33:06] Will I be the bridesmaid for QT Cinderella was the question at first, but will I be the
[00:33:11] bridesmaid for Myahiga?
[00:33:13] This is the only way that we can squash the beef.
[00:33:23] You're getting put in the co-worker corner again.
[00:33:34] You can be the flower girl.
[00:33:35] Me and Winnie can be the flower girls.
[00:33:39] I've thought about this a lot.
[00:33:42] she is my enemy while she is my mortal enemy I'm willing to cast that aside for an opportunity
[00:33:56] to be her brosman you didn't hang out with my on the San Francisco tour you have no chance
[00:34:02] buckle dog I had to go to sleep okay I had to go to sleep it was our first leg
[00:34:15] of the fear and podcast tour by the way tomorrow night there are some tickets
[00:34:21] that are still available at tour dot fear and calm Los Angeles we are inside of
[00:34:27] you. I have been inside of you for the last decade plus. And tomorrow night, it's going
[00:34:36] to go down. Someone lost VIP status over stuff like that. Anyway, if she lets you into the
[00:34:53] bridal party, will you wear the same dress as others? Fuck yeah, I don't give a shit.
[00:34:57] I'll wear the dress but yeah, congratulations to Maya Higa, even though she is my enemy.
[00:35:06] And also a liar.
[00:35:09] That's right.
[00:35:10] A liar!
[00:35:12] She said you can't vibe out a bear.
[00:35:14] You all heard it.
[00:35:16] It turns out it wasn't for my own personal safety.
[00:35:20] It turns out she wanted to vibe out all the bears herself.
[00:35:27] That's right. And now we know the truth. Now we know the truth. Turns out bears are endlessly
[00:35:46] vibrable and she has done it but yeah
[00:35:56] Where was I?
[00:36:07] It gets paid millions for opinions like these.
[00:36:25] Big Animal Sanctuary doesn't want you to know you can buy about a bear.
[00:36:28] Thank you.
[00:36:29] Thank you.
[00:36:31] I'm glad that there are brave, truth-telling warriors in this goddamn community who understand
[00:36:41] that you absolutely can, and perhaps even must, vibe out bears, and that the Big Anti-Bear
[00:36:49] coalition is lying to us. In any case, Milo detained by ICE, flash flood in Nepal, Freaky
[00:37:09] Friday, APAC, Moscow, continue to run war, continue manufactured outrage. Get in now.
[00:37:15] do some fun stuff later as well. There's not a lot going on in the news, and that's precisely
[00:37:21] the reason why the news cycle is still hyper focused on your boy. Unfortunately, Liv's
[00:37:39] not understanding how Twitch works. So we went from praising us off to this.
[00:37:46] Sompike is having a total meltdown on his live stream. Also guys, we don't have to fucking
[00:37:51] look at any and every dumb fuck liberal content creator who either gets paid by the DNC or
[00:38:01] wants to get paid by the DNC. Please. I'm so I want to fucking I want to I want to end
[00:38:08] the broadcast every time, dude. Like you guys are playing into boosting and elevating some
[00:38:16] of these charlatans. You understand that, right? They know that the method to gain status
[00:38:25] just on, you know, on, on the right wing algorithm on Twitter is to aggressively posture against
[00:38:34] me okay did you feel like yeah I fucking hate this guy come on guys please give me the likes
[00:38:42] You know that we are promoting the right-wing playbook when we promote these guys right these guys are fucking losers. They're utterly irrelevant
[00:38:52] Okay last time you guys did this a youtuber made a video Hasan's a meltdown about me. Yeah, exactly. This is why we got to go back to no free cloud
[00:38:59] We have to go back to no free clout
[00:39:06] We're giving these dipshits clout, please
[00:39:13] Your hands too hot click in these streams a dude honestly, it's because I'm a gamer and
[00:39:19] I think many of you know that I'm a gamer because you've seen
[00:39:23] How excited I got with Grand Theft Auto?
[00:39:26] Okay
[00:39:29] God look at these look at these beautiful we got to hang these man only playing with
[00:39:39] your dick yeah that's what your mom said got him IRGC firing towards the shit of Hormuz
[00:39:51] right now. I thought the war was over and the straight was open.
[00:39:59] Yeah, AOC did a voting rights rally. We will cover that as well.
[00:40:06] This person says, I hate these people because they're making me feel like I need to defend
[00:40:09] us on it. Honestly, it's too much money and it's too friendly with liberals. Honest for me to jump
[00:40:12] in front of him, but this is becoming a racist, lomafobic, antagonist going too far. I think
[00:40:17] your comparison to Piker DeLumar is exactly right. Both are violent, dangerous. I don't just oppose
[00:40:20] Hasan Piker because he's an anti-Semite. He's also a massager as a hate monger and an illiberal con artist who makes millions from causing chaos.
[00:40:26] Speaking of which, when we responded to the tweet by Omni liberal, I loved it. She said, Hasan Piker and Laura Loomer are really bad.
[00:40:32] Here is a guy who is literally just as bad as Laura Loomer, who I like.
[00:40:41] Like,
[00:40:43] Sex Pestiny has an active court case. These people are so fucking shameless.
[00:40:47] These people are so shameless, they should feel the shame that they try to invite in
[00:40:55] my direction for having the right opinions.
[00:40:58] They should unironically feel that motherfuckers shame, okay?
[00:41:10] Crazy these people are promoting like sex pests and weirdos and racists
[00:41:18] Yeah, calling piker misages and being on the same side as someone who said this you're an absolute disgrace. Yeah
[00:41:27] Reply with the court dogs you won't yeah
[00:41:37] Calling Matthew radical Islamist is so vile too
[00:41:40] Like you're a nasty little freak for that one.
[00:41:45] Anyway, Mehdi said, you want me to respond to a tweet which calls me a mask on radical
[00:41:58] Islamist who's been concealing his radical beliefs while shanning your Islamophobia
[00:42:01] really showing this week.
[00:42:02] Anyways, I'm glad I was able to get you to finally tweet the name LUMOR in 2026.
[00:42:09] literally accused Omni liberal supporting genocide wait what he did in his own words for the last
[00:42:15] three years dude what what kind of timing is this fucking cult on at this point that's why
[00:42:23] you guys like him that's his whole appeal hello he actively does to this day he says it all the
[00:42:36] time. You can't even, this is like accusing me of being pro-Israel, okay?
[00:42:49] It's the, like, saying, criticizing someone for calling out sex-pestiny for being a genocide
[00:43:00] supporter is like trying to call me out for being a supporter of Palestinians, okay, for
[00:43:08] Palestinian statehood, for Palestinian emancipation.
[00:43:13] Yeah, I do that.
[00:43:16] And yes, he does that.
[00:43:18] This morning, anyway, yeah, he went to Israel and gave the IDF advice in person about how
[00:43:27] to conduct themselves when they are engaging in war crimes in any case the
[00:43:40] vibes were immaculate and they're getting busted already by the second
[00:43:43] we're gonna fix it we're gonna fix it real quick with this Hassanabi granny
[00:43:48] which is very cool I saw this I reposted it already as a boomer who was a hippie
[00:43:53] I'm a Hassanabi granny. I mean, come on. Hell yeah. Let's go. Youngest Hassanabi head.
[00:44:11] There's the Jonathan Shate article as well. We'll probably, we might read that in our
[00:44:16] article reading series. But before we do that, let's get to the war, which is not a war but
[00:44:27] a special military operation that ended in victory. It ended in victory approximately
[00:44:34] 154 times since it began and yet the war continues.
[00:44:42] That's right.
[00:44:44] We are passing the six month of Operation Epstein Fury, Operation Epic Fury as all of
[00:44:56] commentators on the republic inside the trump cult actively denies reality and
[00:45:03] claims that the war is one let's take a look as we pass this pivotal milestone
[00:45:11] in israel what massive strikes against iran wiping out its conventional
[00:45:16] military and killing more than thirty six hundred iranians according to human
[00:45:21] rights activists in Iran, including 165 people after an elementary school was struck, most
[00:45:29] of them children.
[00:45:30] All of this loss in a war the president said would be over in a matter of weeks.
[00:45:36] Right from the beginning we projected four to five weeks, but we have capability to go
[00:45:43] far longer than that.
[00:45:45] But already 18 U.S. service members have been killed, including Sergeant Angel Sarah
[00:45:51] Rampersat, who died in an attack on a base in Jordan.
[00:45:55] She fought for this country and she died for this country.
[00:45:59] And I am a mother.
[00:46:00] I'm just highly proud of her.
[00:46:03] In addition to the deaths, more than 750 Americans have been wounded, including Sergeant
[00:46:10] first class Corey Hicks, who survived a deadly drone attack in Kuwait. He spoke
[00:46:15] with ABC affiliate KSTP. I remember turning my head to the left and I
[00:46:21] seen the nose of that drone pop through the Hicks family says he is now
[00:46:25] struggling with short term memory loss and PTSD and that getting proper
[00:46:30] medical care has taken months. Hicks, they said was concerned about the lack
[00:46:35] of medical supplies in Kuwait even before the attack.
[00:46:40] Americans are also feeling the economic pain.
[00:46:43] The war causing the price of gas to hover above $4 a gallon, with the Strait of Hormuz
[00:46:49] still a flashpoint, although overnight the head of US Central Command saying they have
[00:46:54] now removed all Iranian mines from the Strait.
[00:46:58] But Iran of course is still firing at ships.
[00:47:01] The president on Thursday once again insisting Iran is feeling the pressure after his warning
[00:47:06] of devastating economic sanctions on the regime, but so far the Iranians have shown nothing
[00:47:12] but defiance.
[00:47:13] Rachel.
[00:47:14] Yeah, no progress on those negotiations.
[00:47:15] Okay, Martha.
[00:47:16] Thank you.
[00:47:17] It's been six months since Donald Trump took us to this disastrous war in Iran.
[00:47:21] The United States military began major combat operations in Iran.
[00:47:27] This is what our servicemen and women have been living.
[00:47:31] This is what you've been living for.
[00:47:33] Fire started in the ship's main laundry area and spread, leaving more than 600 crew members
[00:47:38] without beds.
[00:47:39] The Senators say they're receiving reports about a shortage of basic supplies and water
[00:47:44] issues.
[00:47:45] So look at this, today diesel will cost $5.16 per gallon.
[00:47:50] That's up $1.40 since the start of the war.
[00:47:53] Meanwhile, this is what Mike Rogers is willing to say about it.
[00:47:57] I mean, I don't mind giving the president authority to continue.
[00:48:01] You can't stop in big negotiation.
[00:48:04] We have to go back to re-containing Iran.
[00:48:07] You cannot allow them to do this.
[00:48:08] Y'all, let's be real.
[00:48:09] This was never a war we should have fought.
[00:48:12] This is not something that we know how to get out of.
[00:48:15] And Donald Trump wants you to pay attention to anything else.
[00:48:18] Changing the name of Lake Ontario,
[00:48:21] effective immediately to Lake America.
[00:48:24] So those are compared to, those are among the tallest buildings in the world.
[00:48:29] Sending hundreds of millions of dollars to build a borough.
[00:48:33] I love construction. It's tapered.
[00:48:35] This isn't a straight-up and down job, which looks terrible, frankly.
[00:48:39] That's a tapered pole. I'm very good at flagpoles.
[00:48:41] My grottoers for his part? Well, he's a non-playing character and has nothing to say about it, like usual.
[00:48:48] Now to the growing divide within the Democratic Party.
[00:48:51] Michigan Senate candidate Abdul L. Syed, he's the nominee on the Democrat side,
[00:48:56] backtracking over his ties to left-wing streamer Hassan Piker. Syed now saying he has no plans
[00:49:03] to campaign with Piker as Simifor reports he sees the controversy as a non-issue in the race.
[00:49:09] Of course he does, but Senator John Ossoff's office going a step further saying he, quote,
[00:49:14] rejects reckless and dangerous rhetoric suggesting that policy advocacy invites violence against
[00:49:20] the Jewish community or any community. Political commentator Stephanie Hamill joins me now.
[00:49:25] Stephanie, is it too late? Is Piker embedded in the Democrat bloodstream specifically in
[00:49:33] al-Sayed's campaign? Good morning, Todd. And I think you're making a great point here is that
[00:49:39] it is a little too late. So it's convenient that al-Sayed had no problem campaigning with Piker
[00:49:45] this whole time and all of a sudden when he discovers that it's politically
[00:49:49] inconvenient to hang around with somebody who thought America deserved 9-11,
[00:49:54] now he's trying to pretend that Piker was not part of this and supporting him.
[00:49:59] So, but El Sayed doesn't just have a Piker problem, he has an El Sayed problem.
[00:50:04] That is, he supports very radical policies and he has made some very
[00:50:09] problematic statements himself.
[00:50:11] Absolutely. But that said,
[00:50:13] Piker brings votes. So do you expect other Democrat candidates to try and distance themselves from Piker or Stephanie?
[00:50:21] Could you see a situation where they maybe not embrace him, but don't keep him away from the campaign trail just because he's going to mobilize those young voters
[00:50:31] and every vote really counts in a lot of these tight races?
[00:50:35] That's correct. It's been interesting watching a lot of these Democrats are usually outspoken
[00:50:41] on so many issues, twisting themselves into pretzels, trying to avoid this conversation
[00:50:45] about Piker. The Democratic Party does have a Piker problem and it is like front and center
[00:50:51] right now. They don't want to criticize him because they are afraid of his fans and the
[00:50:57] base who love and support him and support all of his.
[00:51:01] I mean, they're not wrong.
[00:51:05] They're technically not wrong.
[00:51:07] And they are, you know, for the most part.
[00:51:10] But that's also part of the reason why,
[00:51:14] that's also part of the reason why the Fox News operators
[00:51:20] are actively needling on this point, right?
[00:51:24] The reason why Fox News is constantly pushing this angle is because they want to drive a
[00:51:33] wedge between the establishment Democrats who fall for it, hook, line, and sinker.
[00:51:38] Okay. Is this the automated mirror? Hasan the Hun, Hasan the repeater. If Democrats
[00:51:45] defended the working class like they defend Israel, Trump wouldn't be president.
[00:51:48] If all they're going to do is make you the news and tell them what they're going to be talking about.
[00:51:54] You got to go on blue sky Hassan. That's the one element. That's the one era area that
[00:52:08] I haven't gone into. Paul Josh trying to get people to stop talking about you. Yeah, it's
[00:52:16] a, I mean, I don't disagree. I wish they started off. I wish everybody started off on that
[00:52:21] foot and then eventually when Fox News didn't let up, they moved on to, they eventually
[00:52:33] moved on to being like, yeah, this is ridiculous. And also he's not this person. Do they make
[00:52:37] your beard thicker in that? No, that my beard was super thick.
[00:52:40] They agree with a lot of the things that he supports. I have a question about the DSA
[00:52:45] and the Democratic Party. Where are they different? Because if you actually examine the things
[00:52:49] that they're supporting. There's a lot of similarity there. Yeah, and to that point, it's almost like
[00:52:54] there is a lot of similarity. The DSA is just louder and more aggressive as to how they talk
[00:53:00] about it. The Democrats kind of want to soft sell it. But I think you're right. I think there is
[00:53:05] common ground there between them. And that leads me to my final question for you, Stephanie.
[00:53:10] Does all of this mean that Republicans are more motivated to head out to the polls because
[00:53:17] I've been, yeah, head out to the polls. I've been reading some polls that show over the
[00:53:21] last month or so. You're seeing the enthusiasm gap that Republicans had close a little bit
[00:53:29] on the Democrats, meaning these Republicans are a little bit more interested. Do you think
[00:53:32] that's because they're looking at this and saying, uh-oh, we can't have a socialist
[00:53:37] win and we've seen a lot of wins in the primaries.
[00:53:41] This is maximum cope, it's wish casting. There is no momentum whatsoever, even remotely on
[00:53:55] the Republican side right now, where not only has the base diminished quite a bit, but candidates
[00:54:07] on the Republican side are trying to, they're trying to identify whether or not they want
[00:54:15] to run towards Trump or run away from Trump.
[00:54:19] They haven't even been able to figure it out because Trump is also a petty tyrant.
[00:54:26] Trump has a commanding presence over the base or what remains of the base.
[00:54:30] So they can't even do this thing where they run towards Trump in the primary and then
[00:54:34] run away from Trump, like they can do that. My can is can do that with me. Democrats can
[00:54:40] do whatever they want. I'm a Twitch streamer. Donald Trump is the president.
[00:54:48] Yeah, McDaniel on affordability. Obviously, the economy's a concern and Democrats don't want
[00:54:52] to be talking about us on Piker, but let's look at what they're putting forward. Look at what
[00:54:54] Mondani's done to New York. Yeah, their solution to the nuclear first strike of affordability
[00:55:04] conversations at a time when you know inflation is hurting regular Americans is to just constantly
[00:55:11] run around and be like Hasan Pyger. Bitch, I didn't make the prices go up. I didn't wage war with Iran.
[00:55:19] You know what I mean? That was Trump. That's your guy. That's your guy. That's your admin.
[00:55:25] Sorry. So I know people are like, oh, I'm sick and tired of this Hasan conversation,
[00:55:32] But it's good that there is at least some folks out there that are pushing back on the lies
[00:55:40] Because it is important to show
[00:55:43] That we are united. It's important to show that the base is united
[00:55:46] It's important to show
[00:55:48] That the the voters are united and it's also important to show that we're not putting up with this nonsense
[00:55:53] Even if it's establishment democrats that are actively trying to say no the left flank is crazy the left flank is
[00:56:01] they're on American, they're anti-American, we condemn them. The way I see what's going on is
[00:56:08] no different than when Democrats get around to voting for a messaging bill that says like,
[00:56:13] we disavow communism, we disavow socialism, we disavow the democratic socialist of America,
[00:56:18] we are not democratic socialists. I think it's the same thing that the establishment
[00:56:22] Democrats are doing, so it doesn't matter. It's good. It's good to push back against this stuff,
[00:56:31] right? Because you let someone like me fall, they're coming for you next. They're coming for
[00:56:37] the next guy next, right? It's not like they're coming after me because I'm this unique individual.
[00:56:44] I'm not. I'm a platform for your resentment. I'm a megaphone for your frustrations,
[00:56:50] and those frustrations are not going to go away. And whoever, let's say I go away tomorrow,
[00:56:56] someone else takes my place, they're going to be eating it too.
[00:57:02] Here's the, here's the funny part about this. Yeah, this was a incredible video.
[00:57:07] First commentary video is a bit rough around the edge, but I'll get better on the condemnations
[00:57:10] of Asan and Hauzainism, Fomense Anti-Semitism. Yeah, from Ostonox to Hurstonox.
[00:57:17] This is a re-rogue. Is that re-rogue? Great clip. Like Republicans are getting away with
[00:57:31] murder at times, getting away with domestic abuse. Republicans are so crazy that Max Miller
[00:57:35] is still on the ballot. He's not dropping out. And there have been more conversations
[00:57:41] about me than fucking Max Miller, who abused Bernie Moreno, allegedly abused Bernie Moreno's
[00:57:50] daughter and granddaughter. Bernie Moreno is the Republican Senator from Ohio. Max Miller
[00:57:56] is the Republican Congressperson. And there isn't even any demands for condemnation for
[00:58:06] Max Miller, who is the actual politician, the actual candidate, what are we doing, man?
[00:58:14] It's unbelievable.
[00:58:15] What do you feel about Hassan Piker?
[00:58:19] We can't ignore the obvious malicious framing being used by APAC-funded politicians.
[00:58:24] So far, 10 Democrats have come up condemning Hassan's statements regarding the conflation
[00:58:28] of anti-Semitism with anti-Semitism, which he called harmful and anti-Semitic in and
[00:58:33] of itself.
[00:58:34] By the way, the chatter this keeps saying, thick beard look like Jerry Adams?
[00:58:39] Up the raw?
[00:58:41] Yeah.
[00:58:42] American Jews do not prioritize Israel, but they do prioritize anti-Semitism.
[00:58:48] And that's precisely the reason why a lot of this propaganda will tie the two.
[00:58:54] This is not a radical or even complex statement.
[00:58:57] Associating an entire group of people with allegiance to any one entity is quite literally treating them as a monolith.
[00:59:04] And insisting that all Jews will support the Zionist project violates their autonomy to oppose Israeli war crimes,
[00:59:11] and undoubtedly begins creating the general idea that any expression of Judaism is showing support for these actions.
[00:59:17] Therefore, insisting that Judaism and Zionism be separated is essential in fighting the rise of antisemitism.
[00:59:24] This is perpetuated by Zionists whether they're actually Jewish or not.
[00:59:27] As often anti-Zionist Jews are told that not supporting Israel somehow strips them of their identity.
[00:59:32] And this can be seen in how these politicians are blatantly twisting the son statement into somehow meaning he was-
[00:59:37] The picture takes his fire-asinoks. That's enough. I've seen enough fire-asinoks.
[00:59:41] ...planing all Jews for the rise of anti-Semitism.
[00:59:44] Plus, this comes after a bombshell poll revealing mostly majority opposition to Israel's actions,
[00:59:49] and months of increasing political motion by left-wing candidates.
[00:59:52] And I'll state again, you don't need to like a son, but the situation-
[00:59:55] Okay, come on, come on, come on. You-you should, though. You don't need to like me, but you should.
[01:00:00] ...the situation surrounding him has to lead us to question why Democrats' attack anti-Zionist figures
[01:00:05] harder than the fascist current leaders' man to the narrow lives.
[01:00:08] If we look at the bigger picture, politicians are refusing to endorse or associate with elected Democratic nominees
[01:00:14] if they deviate from establishment, showing no commitment to regaining power in the House and Senate,
[01:00:20] unless it's on their exact terms. It's an objective fact that they are willing to collaborate with
[01:00:25] their fascist colleagues, but not with their left flank. And we are completely entitled to question
[01:00:30] if these politicians represent us or corporate PACs. Brilliant. Beast mode. Loved it.
[01:00:40] Loved it. It was so good. 10-10. No notes. We are firing Austin Ox, folks. I'm just kidding.
[01:00:46] Austin, I've been doing doing really good work doing really, really good work. So
[01:01:01] if Austin makes stuff that puts you in danger when he's on your side, you don't want to know
[01:01:04] what he makes when he isn't true, maybe on accident, he'll start actually making content that fucking
[01:01:10] makes me look good rather than constantly, constantly puts the crosshairs on me. Who knows? Who knows,
[01:01:15] man. This is simply a peck using money to reward positive reporters goals and the
[01:01:26] fun opponents against who those who do not you are just in its crosshairs yes
[01:01:33] yeah we'll look at the Milo enopolis saga in a second but yeah to address the
[01:01:40] whole Trump's base is actually really motivated to go out and vote. Reuters
[01:01:44] episode's poll, Trump's strong approval of my Republicans is cratered to 35% and 13%
[01:01:50] among total voters. Six months ago, it was unimaginable that it could dip below 50% among
[01:01:54] GOP peers. We can call it the Iran war has destroyed his presidency. No American president
[01:02:00] comes back from numbers this bad. The cult of personality of Trump around Trump has finally
[01:02:04] been broken.
[01:02:06] That is why these guys who have defended Donald Trump this entire time are now actively trying
[01:02:16] to shift the conversation away to a figure that they could possibly get the base to unite
[01:02:23] against.
[01:02:25] I happen to be that person, and it's unfortunate, I guess, for me that the Democrats, the established
[01:02:33] America as the Israel firsters in the party are also leaning in to this line of attack.
[01:02:39] They are letting the Republicans run the discourse. They're letting the Republicans run the show.
[01:02:44] It is unacceptable. It is outright unacceptable. You are collaborating with not only a fascist
[01:02:51] administration, but you are collaborating with an unpopular fascist administration.
[01:02:57] So there is not even any sort of like electoral benefit to this.
[01:03:02] It's only downsides, no upsides, whatsoever.
[01:03:08] So remember that and we will remind these people where they were in this moment, where,
[01:03:15] which side they chose to be on in this very moment.
[01:03:20] When the fate of the Senate majority was in the hands of one race, they chose to attack
[01:03:26] that candidate. They chose to attack me as a vector to attack that candidate," Abdu'l
[01:03:32] said. It's completely unacceptable, and I'm not going to let them live it down. I am going to
[01:03:38] repeat this. I am going to make sure that people remember what took place. And they did it with
[01:03:45] some of the most toxic lies, smears, slander, libel, defamation.
[01:03:54] They behaved alongside Republicans and also, perhaps worse than that,
[01:04:03] they behaved just like the Republicans. That's unacceptable. There was one good point that
[01:04:09] Carl Beyer made who said, Cheney crosses over from the right to help Democrats and they love it.
[01:04:17] Hassan crosses over from the left to help Democrats. Fuck you. Cheney dropped Trump and
[01:04:22] her career to do the right thing. She put America over party. Hassan said, Kamala was the same as
[01:04:26] Trump. Maybe you can figure out why we don't want to sign on the party, let alone the face of the
[01:04:29] party. I love that these guys say like we as though they have any say in this process.
[01:04:33] like as though this is rigged in stolen. I do declare 83 is the is the gatekeeper of who gets to
[01:04:43] work with the party and who doesn't. That's awesome. Carl Byer responds,
[01:04:47] Cheney, 2020 backs Trump, 2024 campaigns with Democrats. Hassan, 2024 fails the back Kamala,
[01:04:52] 2026 campaign with Democrats. What exactly is the difference here? His person responds,
[01:04:57] he's campaigning with his Democrats. Just like he campaigned for Bernie,
[01:05:00] that actively worked to hurt Hillary, Biden, and Kamala, which I didn't by the way, not for Biden
[01:05:04] and not for Hillary, but they're still saying that. Cheney, like the same human being who cares
[01:05:08] about the country, didn't agree with Kamala but supported her over Trump. Carl Byers says,
[01:05:13] if Assad puts disagreements with these aside to campaign for them, it doesn't count. If Cheney
[01:05:18] puts hers aside, it does. Assad criticizes and Clinton and Biden counts as a strike against them,
[01:05:22] but Cheney gets a pass on voting and campaigning for Trump in those elections. You aren't serious.
[01:05:27] I'm not serious. You refuse to endorse any of these Democrats.
[01:05:34] Not only is this guy fucking lying, the idea that I didn't endorse Biden or did not endorse
[01:05:42] Hillary Clinton is a lie, the outright lie. Okay. My red line was genocide. And I think that's a
[01:05:49] pretty valuable, pretty decent red line. Okay. Seemingly it was the red line of many others as well.
[01:05:57] Yeah, this is in response, I believe, to the Jonathan-shaped piece.
[01:06:16] The entire reactionary centers' case is that leftist pauses must distance themselves from
[01:06:19] Piker to neutralize them as an electoral issue.
[01:06:21] But when they do distance themselves, the reactionary centers still write articles,
[01:06:25] making the linking, criticizing the exact wording. If this was about electoral advantage,
[01:06:29] the thing reactionary centrists claim as their expertise, they would be writing about how
[01:06:33] this entire issue is a distraction if you're concerned about the influence of fringe radicals
[01:06:36] or policymaking. Republicans are the bigger threat, of course they are.
[01:06:40] Yeah, this is the, this only becomes a political and moral crisis of reactionary centrists relentlessly
[01:06:47] frame it as one. Jonathan Shate wrote another article saying, I'll go I'll say it's Hassan
[01:06:52] piker problem is not a grim choice to support either a psychotic republican
[01:06:55] or a mainstream center left politician but they're trying to present as one
[01:07:00] okay
[01:07:02] the reason why i'm still talking about this is not because like i'm the center
[01:07:05] piece of the conversation
[01:07:07] the reason i'm talking about this because this factional battle is actually
[01:07:09] becoming a serious issue
[01:07:12] and we have to push back against it and we have to expose
[01:07:16] centrist democrats these right wing democrats
[01:07:19] for what they are doing
[01:07:22] and we have to use
[01:07:23] the language that the base actually understands because this is
[01:07:28] electoral poison what they are doing
[01:07:31] is actually trying to
[01:07:32] drive the narrative
[01:07:34] that a candidate is not
[01:07:37] electable after
[01:07:39] the primaries are over in an effort
[01:07:42] to discourage turnout for said candidate
[01:07:47] do you understand
[01:07:49] that is completely unacceptable
[01:07:51] that is unacceptable and it is an opportune moment for us to show the
[01:07:56] centrist right wing democrats as the collaborators that they are to every
[01:08:00] liberal
[01:08:01] that is
[01:08:02] maybe not on our side yet
[01:08:09] how do you reconcile saying you back there and or centrist democrats at some
[01:08:12] point with denying you sheepdog people in a democrat party i'm legitimately
[01:08:15] asking us a sheepdogging derogatorily
[01:08:18] what do you mean i i i i fucking
[01:08:20] still believe the theory of harm reduction, or believe rather the theory that the marginal
[01:08:27] differences between the democratic candidate is still more consequential than, you know,
[01:08:33] not endorsing the democratic candidate.
[01:08:35] I was very clear in my school, in the way that I was very clear about my thinking in
[01:08:42] my refusal to outright endorse Kamala Harris.
[01:08:46] Genocide is unacceptable, okay?
[01:08:49] is my red line. But the reason why I endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton, and urged people to
[01:08:56] go out and fucking vote for her, the same reason why I endorsed Joe Biden as well, and urged
[01:09:03] people to go out and vote for him, is because yes, they are, albeit marginally, still better,
[01:09:12] still better than the Republicans are.
[01:09:14] I stand by those decisions. Hillary Rodham Clinton is horrible and yet she still would have been better than Donald Trump.
[01:09:24] You can call that sheepdogging all day every day. That's just my assessment. That's my, like, I'm not, I'm not feeding you lies as far as saying like, oh, you vote for the Democrat and then it'll be much easier to organize under Democrats or if you're going to vote for Hillary Clinton.
[01:09:43] Hillary Clinton, it's, you know, everything is going to be solved.
[01:09:47] We're going to get health care or anything like that.
[01:09:49] No, it's just Donald Trump is a chaos agent.
[01:09:53] Republicans in general are chaos agents.
[01:09:55] Donald Trump is just a maximum conclusion of years and years of post Reagan Republicanism.
[01:10:07] Do you understand?
[01:10:08] My problem with this conversation is I think people don't understand like I don't think voting is the most consequential thing you can do.
[01:10:18] I say it all the time is the most consequential least consequential thing you can do the most impactful least consequential thing you can do.
[01:10:25] Okay, it doesn't end with voting. It's not like it's not like every four years I come out and I'm like, ooh, I'm going to vote.
[01:10:33] love voting please go out and vote for the democrats they're awesome and then i shut
[01:10:37] the fuck up for the rest of the year
[01:10:39] do i stop
[01:10:41] do i stop agitating
[01:10:43] do i stop trying to foment class consciousness
[01:10:45] do i
[01:10:46] uh... did you do i not
[01:10:49] continue
[01:10:50] uh... not only endorsing certain
[01:10:52] organizations
[01:10:53] trying to send people to these organizations so they can get proper
[01:10:57] political education once they do have class consciousness
[01:11:00] Do I, do I not continuously advocate and continuously engage in activism throughout the entire process?
[01:11:06] Do I not criticize the Democrats endlessly?
[01:11:10] Part of the reason why these guys lose their minds over the space that I occupy is because
[01:11:15] I do actually viciously go after Democrats because they are worthy of critique.
[01:11:30] That's it.
[01:11:46] There's a lot of work to do before the elections actually happens.
[01:11:48] I say avoid having to pick between shit sandwiches.
[01:11:50] I mean, sure.
[01:11:53] Democrat party, this guy's a fascist.
[01:11:55] No, he's not.
[01:11:56] He's not.
[01:11:57] Come on.
[01:11:58] Stop.
[01:11:59] I was calm on the pro genocide, but Hillary and Biden were more worthy of endorsement still being pro Israel.
[01:12:13] I do love the idea that newcomers into the pro Palestinian movement will tell me and about anti Zionist for the past decade or so, or, you know, as a public figure,
[01:12:25] that I was not allowed to make endorsements for any pro-Israel Democrat. That's awesome.
[01:12:32] You know, we just move with how the public moves, right? That's how elections are considered.
[01:12:38] That's precisely the reason why the entire anti-Zionist movement was unbelievably supportive
[01:12:43] of Bernie Sanders in 2016, even though there were still plenty of criticism.
[01:12:47] Sassan has such an ego now wait what would he what thunder thighs 10 what I
[01:12:56] Don't know if you know this but like the apartheid still remained in Israel, but the genocide happened after October 7
[01:13:15] So
[01:13:17] Anyway, where were we?
[01:13:24] Hassan, you're an Israel supporter?
[01:13:34] The BS.
[01:13:36] Mm-hmm.
[01:13:38] Okay.
[01:13:40] Okay, anyway.
[01:13:47] Hmm.
[01:13:54] That framing.
[01:13:56] Kamala would have to.
[01:13:57] So not endorsing her under that framing is not good.
[01:13:58] That framing just opened you up to that attack.
[01:14:01] What do you mean?
[01:14:05] Dog Kamala Harris was a part of an administration that was actually
[01:14:09] committing a genocide. If you cannot comprehend that this is a valid moral red line that we
[01:14:24] can draw, I don't know what to tell you, I will always defend my refusal to endorse
[01:14:29] com layers in the democrats
[01:14:32] regardless of of my commentary
[01:14:35] that was honest
[01:14:37] and critical of the democrats in an effort to
[01:14:39] ensure that they changed their campaign strategy
[01:14:42] usually change their policies
[01:14:44] and to actually defeat the republicans
[01:14:51] Yeah, but parsing it that way open you up to it.
[01:15:03] What?
[01:15:14] I think at times there are people to my left that just want to be heard, like they get
[01:15:21] really bored, and they really, really don't want to defend me against establishment Democrats.
[01:15:28] So they just kind of like lean into, they just kind of lean into the, the, the lines
[01:15:33] of attack and just chirp a little bit so that they're heard here.
[01:15:38] I think that's what it is.
[01:15:41] They're going to lose it when you said the genocide began on October 7.
[01:15:44] That's true, the apartheid existed, the ethnic cleansing campaign existed, but genocide,
[01:15:50] a specific charge, began after October 7.
[01:15:54] This is correct.
[01:16:14] In any case, harm reduction might be correct theoretically, okay?
[01:16:28] It might be the correct theoretical framework, but one, in a long enough timeline, it turns
[01:16:35] into a disastrous outcome. Donald Trump is a perfect, a perfect outcome that we are talking
[01:16:44] about. That is exactly what was your so fake online you display this on your so fake online
[01:16:50] you display a different persona. But in reality, he gives zero fucks about the genocide.
[01:16:56] Am I are we getting like hate rated by by like a random dipshit that someone just chirp again?
[01:17:05] Is that what's going on?
[01:17:08] We got some SOC accounts
[01:17:25] Yes, you're a trot never that's unacceptable
[01:17:32] That's unacceptable
[01:17:35] I don't think it's a molestiny bot. We have a look, look, look. There are people of all
[01:17:50] different kinds of ideological variety who who oppose what I do or what I'm
[01:18:03] trying to do for a million different reasons some of it is just like petty
[01:18:08] some of it is just jealousy and envy there are a lot of like media there are
[01:18:14] a lot of media figures who I think recognize their lack of control over the situation.
[01:18:22] They recognize the severity of the crisis and they get very frustrated with their inability
[01:18:28] to address any of this and perhaps maybe they want more attention.
[01:18:36] They're opportunists.
[01:18:44] They're instigators with no real ambition to make the changes necessary.
[01:18:55] Because like, if you were to ask some of these people, if there would ever be pro-embargo
[01:19:03] Democrats running and winning in the primaries two years ago, they'd be like, absolutely
[01:19:08] not.
[01:19:09] That's crazy.
[01:19:10] Two years ago, if there were pro-embargo Israel Democrats, they would probably be a lot
[01:19:14] more favorable to the party overall, right?
[01:19:28] It's just that's progress. And this stuff takes time.
[01:19:35] But for some, that is utterly immaterial, it's utterly irrelevant. The only best method of
[01:19:42] praxis is to post like a schizophrenic madman on the internet. You know? So that's what
[01:19:53] they do. They just keep doing that. And they judge you by your posts, not the impact.
[01:20:04] Somewhere Democrats have had good traction is this message of affordability. Our polling shows
[01:20:08] people are extremely worried about it across party lines. It's going to be what they continue
[01:20:13] to hammer going into the midterms. And for most people, you know, buying gas, getting
[01:20:16] groceries, it's a daily ch-
[01:20:18] The other chatter was right. It wasn't an attack by the way you worded it. It sounded
[01:20:20] like you endorsed Biden and Clinton because they weren't pro-genocide. No, they hadn't
[01:20:24] conducted a genocide at that point.
[01:20:27] Back when they say they're worried.
[01:20:29] Yeah, obviously the economy's a concern and the Democrats don't want to be talking about
[01:20:35] But let's look at what they're putting forward.
[01:20:38] Government control of everything.
[01:20:40] Look at what mom done.
[01:20:41] Yeah, good luck.
[01:20:42] Good luck explaining to regular Americans who are suffering right now that, oh, government
[01:20:47] control is actually going to be bad right now.
[01:20:49] I don't think people care.
[01:20:51] If someone goes out and says, look, we're going to do price fixing, we are going to
[01:20:56] punish these big grocery stores.
[01:20:59] We are going to punish these companies that have caused skyrocketing greedflation.
[01:21:07] People are going to be on board with that.
[01:21:09] I think that's what the real fear is from the Republican Party and that's what the
[01:21:13] real fear is from the right-wing Democrats as well.
[01:21:16] They are worried about the appetite that regular Americans have towards change no matter the
[01:21:25] cost.
[01:21:27] Do you understand?
[01:21:28] And he's done to New York, government-controlled grocery stores.
[01:21:36] Everything they do is taking more power away from the people and putting it in the hands
[01:21:41] of politicians.
[01:21:42] That's their plan.
[01:21:44] And they say it with a bunch of nice words, and these TikTok candidates are appealing
[01:21:48] to our kids saying, we're going to make things cheaper.
[01:21:50] Well, let me just tell you, it's not going to be cheaper when the government controls
[01:21:54] everything.
[01:21:55] Well, somebody's got to pay for things unless doctors are going to show up for free and
[01:21:59] professors are going to show up for free.
[01:22:00] Nothing's actually free.
[01:22:02] So the debate here in America is how you pay for those things.
[01:22:05] So Rhonda McDaniel, thank you very much for your time.
[01:22:07] Have a great weekend.
[01:22:08] Thanks for having me.
[01:22:15] They're calling out the March on Washington for you not being there.
[01:22:18] Here's how facts cover in the rally marking the sixth third anniversary of MLK's March
[01:22:22] on Washington by noting a sound piker is in there and playing a bunch of clips of people
[01:22:26] condemning pikers comments. What the fuck?
[01:22:29] To seek further, to demand more, and to organize toward the future we know is possible. The
[01:22:39] tide is coming and this time we intend to win it all.
[01:22:46] So lawmakers AOC and Bernie Sanders headlining a progressive march on Washington today but
[01:22:51] One prominent voice on the far left is noticeably absent trace.
[01:22:57] We'll talk to former RNC chair,
[01:22:58] Ron McDaniel about Hassan Piker and his rhetoric forcing.
[01:23:03] Dog, what the hell are they talking about?
[01:23:14] Why would I be at this mart?
[01:23:16] Why is it?
[01:23:17] Have I been marching alongside Bernie and AOC everywhere they go?
[01:23:26] I have a live event in Los Angeles. I mean, they didn't even ask me, but I couldn't make it even if they did.
[01:23:33] And also, why should I be invited?
[01:23:40] What an insane take!
[01:23:47] What the hell is going on? The criticisms of... I mean, these guys are totally nutty.
[01:24:07] There was a DSA meeting in Seattle last night. Notably, you weren't there, hmm?
[01:24:12] It's not enough.
[01:24:19] It's not enough that I am, uh, president campaigns is also important to note when I'm not present
[01:24:25] at certain rallies.
[01:24:26] Is that what it is?
[01:24:28] In a deepening democratic rift into the open next, no, uh, democratic members should allow
[01:24:38] piker anywhere near them on the campaign trail those comments were dangerous
[01:24:44] malicious and anti-semitic do not support the comments of his son piker the
[01:24:50] Democratic Party does not stand for what his son piker stands for
[01:24:57] You need further to demand more.
[01:25:06] Yeah, the comments are Israel puts Jews in danger, like Israel's actions.
[01:25:11] Being falsely conflated with Judaism makes Jews all around the world less safe.
[01:25:18] Controversial opinion, I know, except it's not an opinion, it's just abject reality.
[01:25:27] I hate the Abdul bending the knee, dude, he needs to get, he needs to pack up this Jeremy
[01:25:49] Moss situation.
[01:25:51] Okay?
[01:25:53] Like, it's just, this is, this is politicking.
[01:25:57] Okay, he needs it. Oakland County, which is, here's the thing. Oakland County has a high
[01:26:07] density of Jewish Democratic Party voters. Okay, Oakland County is Haley Stevens' seat,
[01:26:16] her former seat. Okay, Jeremy Moss won that race and is now the congressional representative
[01:26:26] from this district.
[01:26:29] Abdul Al Sayed needs to win every single vote.
[01:26:35] It's that simple.
[01:26:38] So yes, he needs to.
[01:26:41] He needs to get Jeremy Moss to endorse him with Hillary
[01:26:44] Scolton. It doesn't necessarily matter. Hillary Scolton.
[01:26:47] Abdul won that district.
[01:26:49] Grand Rapids, not even a question, right?
[01:26:51] Like that district is going to vote for him overwhelmingly.
[01:26:56] Hasan, have you thought about closing up your whole thing here so you can prevent clipping
[01:27:04] by not publishing bots and not allowing other channels uploading your videos and DMC-ing
[01:27:07] dishonest tweets on clips on Twitter because I do not think you can sustain yourself with
[01:27:11] the amount of bad attention you're getting and of course delete Twitter because you're
[01:27:13] an addict.
[01:27:14] Please read logs.
[01:27:15] Please read logs.
[01:27:16] Yeah, the answer is no.
[01:27:19] Okay.
[01:27:21] stop being parasocial. He's like, Hey, have you thought about just quitting? Yeah, Jonathan
[01:27:41] Chey is lost his mind about you so much. Yeah, I know he's making Adam Gentelson look normal
[01:27:47] in comparison.
[01:27:52] Um, anyway, we'll get to the Abdul El Sayed Jeremy Moss situation in a second.
[01:28:00] So now that they're saying Abdul polling ahead is fake, political Trump posts to say Abdul
[01:28:05] El Sayed's polling lead is a fake narrative in a new internal memo.
[01:28:08] Tony Fabrizio said recent public polling showing Republican Mike Rogers down the Michigan
[01:28:12] Senate race has oversampling errors.
[01:28:15] Hmm interesting
[01:28:19] Well, it's funny because the Fabrizio pole also literally shows up to l said ahead
[01:28:30] He's dude dude
[01:28:35] Polster
[01:28:36] Polster looks at his own polling it goes not dude
[01:28:39] Uh, Abdul al said winning is fake. Please don't look at my poll that also shows Abdul al said ahead
[01:29:02] Not gonna lie it is pandering, but if you did a weekly show with fd that'd be fire. Why would it be pandering?
[01:29:07] I love FD. He has great insights.
[01:29:19] Hope is charisma can save this. Guys, it's not a it's not a losing race. I think you guys are,
[01:29:26] I think this like Republican-backed narrative has set in. And because so many people are constantly
[01:29:32] talking about like Obdolal said, is he still electable? Who knows? Like in an effort to make
[01:29:36] you feel insecure about his chances, you have lost sight of where this race is.
[01:29:41] Abdul Al Sayed is not losing this race right now. He's winning this race.
[01:29:47] Hello? Don't let the stupid media narrative break your confidence in an objectively good candidate.
[01:29:57] Stop catastrophizing.
[01:29:58] Stop, stop letting the media narrative actually, to be fair, that's all you talk about too,
[01:30:07] because you're just covering them.
[01:30:08] Yes, but I also repeatedly explained that this is not, this is an attempt.
[01:30:16] There's a difference between an attempt, succeeding in an attempt, failing.
[01:30:20] I believe this is a failing attempt.
[01:30:24] i think this will only harden people's opposition to establishment democrats
[01:30:29] because it will cause people to recognize that the real reason why they're
[01:30:31] doing this is because of op-doll's opposition to israel
[01:30:34] which is an objectively popular position
[01:30:37] across party lines
[01:30:39] okay it's not just
[01:30:41] a popular position
[01:30:43] within the democratic base the diehard democrats are the only people that
[01:30:47] want to embargo israel or
[01:30:48] wanna stop
[01:30:50] said shipping weapons to israel one hold israel accountable
[01:30:53] to stop wasting our tax dollars on Israel and other initiatives in the region. No, this is a
[01:31:01] very, very popular initiative. And this only hardens his credibility on this front.
[01:31:10] And yes, the rat fuckery is shameless, but it doesn't mean it's successful. You think people
[01:31:16] are like, oh, Deborah Lipstadt, she's my favorite. Now I'm going to really not vote for Abdelal.
[01:31:21] I'll say I might vote for Mike Rogers. Like what are you fucking crazy?
[01:31:24] Biden's absolutely shameless anti-Semitism are admits that Abdul al said disavowing piker would be fruitless
[01:31:30] Because they keep attacking Abdul al said anyway because they'll keep attacking it David from nails it
[01:31:34] This is bigger than a surrogate. Once again engaging in anti-Semitism again
[01:31:37] I predict al said will disavow piker publicly and some people say okay. It's fixed, but it's not
[01:31:45] Ben Shapiro prediction Deborah Lipsch dad aligning with Ben Shapiro a straight up fascist
[01:31:51] Okay. An unbelievably racist person. I wonder what Deborah Lipstadt and Ben Shapiro agree on.
[01:32:00] I wonder why Deborah Lipstadt and Ben Shapiro are aligned with one another. This is again,
[01:32:05] a Biden administration official. How did this happen? Oh, that's right. It obviously is real.
[01:32:15] Of course, it's Israel. Eventually, the pressure will get to Al-Sahed and we'll backtrack and maybe
[01:32:20] even say it was a mistake to campaign with piker there will then be those who say okay we can put
[01:32:24] this behind us he's good right sell them a bridge in brooklyn she's openly saying lie to obdol
[01:32:31] said get him to disavow so that we can continue pound uh continue uh uh pouncing on him and
[01:32:39] pummeling him with the past association at that point it's fucking ridiculous
[01:32:44] This is where Zionism leads you, telling rabbis they don't know what it means to be Jewish.
[01:32:54] Yeah.
[01:32:55] Rabbi Mordechai Lightstone says there are many ways to criticize bad arguments saying
[01:33:00] people who are indeed Jewish are about as Jewish as a hand sandwich is simply not it.
[01:33:04] Wrong!
[01:33:05] Using the mantle of Jewishness, something I'm buying or accompanying demonstrates your
[01:33:07] actual commitment to in order to promote anti-Judaic insanity is fundamentally un-Jewish
[01:33:11] and ought to be called out as such.
[01:33:13] Yeah, the Pope of the Jews added again.
[01:33:23] As Sam, as Uncle Sam likes to call him.
[01:33:34] So yeah, this kind of stuff is really gross.
[01:33:38] This was a really good take from Dylan Storm Day as well as his put us on the side.
[01:33:42] should concern you that the Democratic Party has launched a coordinated smear campaign
[01:33:45] based on nothing he actually said against the private citizen who is not in or running
[01:33:48] for office. This reveals how comfortable they are with just lying to the voters. This is
[01:33:53] something they've also not done for actual hateful and more famous pundits like Trevor
[01:33:57] Carlson, Candace O's, Charlie Kirk, Nick Flendors, or Ben Shapiro, many of whom have
[01:34:01] broader reach and are actual anti-Semites and some of whom are just Nazis of a different
[01:34:06] variety. Back to Hassan specifically, the Dems were fine inviting Hassan to the DNC
[01:34:11] in 2024. Most of the controversial stuff he'd actually said was before that, and they didn't
[01:34:15] care. They're not attacking him now for what he said. Be serious.
[01:34:33] And this is obviously still going to continue. The fever is not breaking for some reason.
[01:34:38] I know why the fever is not breaking for the Republicans, but it is alarming that it's
[01:34:47] not breaking for some Democrats.
[01:34:50] What is this?
[01:34:51] I remain mystified why these progressive politicians have not yet learned that apologies
[01:34:54] in Canadian design is framing does not assuage these people, especially after they win their
[01:34:58] primaries by refusing to do that.
[01:34:59] This is the same as that tactical retreat on Globalized Intifado when Mamdani had already
[01:35:03] won the primary.
[01:35:04] You refused to back down before that and you won.
[01:35:07] giving these people a fucking inch. Genuinely feels like the second any of them win a primary,
[01:35:12] they start believing bad advice about needing to moderate their views for the general, which
[01:35:15] despite being a central shibboleth, is not backed by actual data. It's so stupid, you don't win
[01:35:20] anyone new, but you risk demoralizing people who liked you before. No, it's worse than that.
[01:35:26] It's worse than that. You actually take ownership over a cynical framework. You never take ownership
[01:35:35] over your opposition's framing. Your opposition wants, if you're Abdul El Sayed, the Republicans
[01:35:43] want to tie Abdul El Sayed to me, okay, to the most negatively framed comments, the most
[01:35:50] ridiculous clips out of context. And they want to hammer him over the head with it.
[01:35:56] So, when you disavow or when you seed ground on oppositional framework in a moment like this,
[01:36:03] you take ownership over it. You say, I'm so sorry I did this. Okay? Even if there was validity
[01:36:14] to the argument, even if there is validity to the argument, even if I was like legitimately a
[01:36:20] bad person, which I am not, but even if I was, you should still not do it. Politics is about being
[01:36:28] a cynical operator at the end of the day, and you should behave like a cynical operator,
[01:36:35] okay?
[01:36:42] My dad said local news only showing a second house enriched with socialist angle, but nothing
[01:36:46] about you.
[01:36:55] Because the moment that you apologize for something, the Republican strategy is to badger
[01:37:05] you with it over and over again to say, well, why didn't you apologize earlier?
[01:37:09] Now that you have taken ownership over this wrongdoing, when there is no such wrongdoing
[01:37:14] whatsoever, they will turn around and say, oh, look at you.
[01:37:20] You fucked up.
[01:37:22] You're weak.
[01:37:24] We have noticed that you are weak.
[01:37:29] Republicans never apologize for anything.
[01:37:33] This is an operating, this is a disciplining operation, but this is also a way to control
[01:37:37] the narrative.
[01:37:38] Not only do you not win them over, you end up validating their bullshit framing and they
[01:37:41] strut around like assholes bragging that they were actually right all along and now
[01:37:44] it's open season on asking you to condemn the next thing and the next thing forever
[01:37:47] and ever until the heat death of the universe.
[01:37:50] If you want to make these attacks stop, you just have to say, I'm not playing this will
[01:37:53] You condemn game asked me about something real the first politician to figure this shit out and turn the tables on media
[01:37:58] Will be ascended polls really underestimate how much people crave someone calling the media and establish it out on their endless bullshit
[01:38:04] I do it all the time. You know who did that by the way fucking Donald Trump did
[01:38:10] Donald Trump did it for you know valid concerns coming from people, but he did it nonetheless and he did it and one
[01:38:17] One. People want a no nonsense shit talker. Okay.
[01:38:27] Bernie did it successfully as well for the longest time.
[01:38:35] Not to be conspiratorial, but James Carvel did this to Rush Limbaugh in 2009,
[01:38:39] and I think the same forces have decided to try this again on you.
[01:38:43] Yeah, it wasn't a successful strategy for the record.
[01:38:47] Yeah, Democrats realized they could roll out a new GOP boogeyman for the post-bush
[01:38:53] era by turning on an old one, Limbaugh, a polarizing figure since he rose to prominence
[01:38:56] in the 1990s.
[01:39:02] His positives for voters under 40 was 11 percent.
[01:39:04] Carvel recall with a degree of amazement alluding to the question about whether voters had a
[01:39:07] positive or negative view of the talk show host.
[01:39:37] Anyway, Democrats do this with Biden to the hypocrisy, but hold on, hold on, let's just,
[01:39:52] I'm losing sight of what I wanted to talk about here. Yeah, Matt Iglesias says,
[01:39:57] I think when establishment liberals said they wanted a Joe Rogan, they met a popular media figure
[01:40:01] who would support their candidates, not a media figure who would become their factional antagonist.
[01:40:04] A popular media who supports Democratic candidates, great idea.
[01:40:10] Do we have any of those?
[01:40:25] Did you hear Pa John Favreau's go one day without mentioning Sampaya Challenge?
[01:40:29] Yeah, he failed to do the challenge himself.
[01:40:31] Look at this.
[01:40:32] This is from, I think, two days ago.
[01:40:34] Here's John Favreau and Dan Fiverr breaking the don't talk about a Sampyger for a day
[01:40:38] challenge.
[01:40:39] Those of you who follow, it's really funny because you know what?
[01:40:44] The same people that despise me also fucking hate these guys too.
[01:40:50] And they're not even as critical as Israel with Israel as I am, except for like Ben Rhodes
[01:40:54] right and Tommy Vitor.
[01:40:56] And these guys are also widely hated by the same DC elites now.
[01:41:01] Part of it is because they've offered me a platform and they fucking can't stand that.
[01:41:05] The DC elites hate that shit.
[01:41:07] And the other reason is because they understand where the base is.
[01:41:12] And of course, because of their understanding of where the base is, they lean into some
[01:41:17] of the more radical forces that are not so radical amongst the base.
[01:41:25] That's it.
[01:41:28] They are seen as the connective tissue between some establishment favoring liberals or liberal
[01:41:34] like vote blue, no matter who types and people like myself.
[01:41:37] So they despise them for that reason because they have bridged this coalition because they
[01:41:43] are actually invested in defeating Donald Trump.
[01:41:46] They are liberal and yet they actually want to defeat Donald Trump and they don't care
[01:41:53] if there are democratic socialists in the ranks.
[01:41:56] They understand that the democratic socialist movement is actually quite appealing to large
[01:42:02] chunks of the base.
[01:42:08] In some respects, they are the real Vote Blue, no matter who, guys, you stick up for them
[01:42:13] one thousand times more than they defend you.
[01:42:16] Extremely funny for him to say this is if they're not itching to do the exact same smear
[01:42:19] campaign against the Pog bros, too, the same people gunning for a swan despised John Favre.
[01:42:23] I mean, it's true.
[01:42:26] They've been called rape apologists up and down the timeline for their endorsement of
[01:42:38] Graham Platner.
[01:42:39] Me on Twitter might be thinking, John, didn't you just call on all Democrats to take the
[01:42:46] don't talk about Hassan Piker for a day challenge?
[01:42:48] Why, yes, I did.
[01:42:51] And most of political Twitter, including several Democratic politicians, failed.
[01:42:55] So I am intentionally failing today in order to make another plea.
[01:43:00] I think it's one thing if, like Jon Assoff, you are pressed by our reporter to respond
[01:43:06] to whatever the latest Hassan Piker statement is, I do not think that spending every day
[01:43:12] from now until November talking about denouncing, defending Hassan Piker will either make Hassan
[01:43:20] Piker go away or help Democrats win the midterms.
[01:43:25] I think it will instead keep one very polarizing leftist influencer at the center of the discourse
[01:43:30] and give Republicans and right-wing media excuse after excuse to cover each new denunciation.
[01:43:38] What do you think, Dan?
[01:43:39] Is this a trap?
[01:43:40] Yes.
[01:43:41] If I answer the question, I have failed the test you set up.
[01:43:45] Well, that's what I'm saying.
[01:43:46] I failed it.
[01:43:47] I've already failed.
[01:43:48] Okay.
[01:43:49] Failure.
[01:43:50] I tried.
[01:43:51] Didn't work.
[01:43:52] Okay.
[01:43:53] to do this briefly. The main goal here is to elect Democrats to the Senate majority.
[01:44:01] We cannot really elect Democrats to Senate majority without Abdul winning in Michigan.
[01:44:06] And my perhaps naive belief is that everyone in this debate wants Abdul to win. And the
[01:44:14] best way for Abdul to win is for everyone. People condemning Hassan, people condemning
[01:44:20] the people condemning Hassan and Hassan himself to move on and stop fighting about this.
[01:44:26] We need, we are 67 days away. We need to be talking about Mike Rogers.
[01:44:31] I don't disagree with the last part of this, but yeah, I'm going to fucking obviously not
[01:44:37] only defend myself against the barrage of smears, but also then talk about the importance
[01:44:47] in this moment. The reason why I'm covering this stuff is not because I'm the subject matter.
[01:44:54] The reason why I'm talking about this is because this is, one, the Republican attempt for the
[01:45:00] midterms and just hand waving it away without addressing the Republican attempt for the midterms,
[01:45:06] and why Republicans only have this tool at their disposal is foolhardy,
[01:45:11] right? Because they're not going to stop. They're not going to stop at all. So we have to figure out
[01:45:17] a better way to flip the narrative. One part of that is to obviously identify why they're talking
[01:45:24] about this. The other thing that we also have to address is the establishment Democrats'
[01:45:30] willingness to tank the Senate majority. I think Dan Pfeiffer is wrong. I think there are right-wing
[01:45:37] Democrats who are in positions of power in the Democratic Party, who absolutely want
[01:45:44] to tank Abdel's chances so they can reconfirm their quote unquote, electability priors,
[01:45:52] okay?
[01:45:53] They understand that Abdel El Sayed's victory in Michigan as an unashamed progressive, as
[01:46:01] unashamed progressive, is a major blow to the narrative that in 2028, a narrative that they
[01:46:08] are going to weaponize, that actual progressives cannot win swing states. And that is precisely
[01:46:19] the reason why they are openly, and I mean openly, trying to tank his chances.
[01:46:28] So, yes, this is a factional battle being waged by some of the establishment Democrats
[01:46:36] because they're fucking terrified, not of Abdul's defeat, but of Abdul's victory.
[01:46:43] They are worried that if they have another Zoran Mamdani, but this time in Michigan,
[01:46:48] it's over.
[01:46:50] Okay?
[01:46:51] So, the war here that they are waging is not necessarily for Abdul to lose.
[01:46:58] The war here that they're waging is so that their arguments don't lose in front of the
[01:47:04] base.
[01:47:05] Their argument of electability is the only tool that the right-wing Democrats have, the
[01:47:09] corporate Democrats have.
[01:47:12] An argument that is blasted on the timeline for mainstream outlets over and over again,
[01:47:18] recirculated endlessly.
[01:47:21] Abdul's victory in the primary
[01:47:23] put a devastating blow to that argument
[01:47:26] because voters heard it and said,
[01:47:28] no, I think Abdul's still electable.
[01:47:30] I don't believe you.
[01:47:31] That was a huge blow.
[01:47:33] So now they will punish the voters.
[01:47:36] Now they will make sure
[01:47:38] that Abdul Al Sayed doesn't win.
[01:47:41] Prove me wrong, establishment Democrats.
[01:47:43] Please, I would love,
[01:47:45] I would love to feel like a fool.
[01:47:47] but right now
[01:47:50] this past week's media cycle shows me once again
[01:47:54] that you are actually not invested
[01:47:57] in the democratic senate majority
[01:47:59] you are actually invested
[01:48:02] in obdol say it failing
[01:48:04] and the democratic majority not being established in the senate
[01:48:11] what is this this person think i find you recently because of the coordinated
[01:48:14] Meers they now agree with you and even may get it wait past 15 seconds
[01:48:34] This is why people are fed up with both parties because y'all are always focused and on dumb shit when people can barely afford food
[01:48:40] We can barely afford rent. We can barely afford gas. People are losing their insurance. Left them right. Hospitals are closing. Now farmers are struggling like,
[01:48:48] This shit is so fucking stupid. And this is exactly why Zoran won because he ran on real shit. That fucking mattered. Y'all are worried about a fucking switch streamer.
[01:48:56] Are you fucking kidding me? I can't believe y'all don't see this shit. Oh my god. Yeah, 67 days until midterms. If y'all really want to win, this ain't helping.
[01:49:05] Yeah, I think people are also overestimating how much faith remains in mainstream institutions,
[01:49:19] whether it be mainstream media or whether it be establishment Democrats in general.
[01:49:25] They don't realize how much anger and resentment exists for them.
[01:49:29] And while there is still an older voting block that probably still trusts mainstream institutions in particular,
[01:49:38] okay, the reality of the matter is a lot of people don't, a lot of younger people don't, a lot of people under the age of 50 don't.
[01:49:50] So, when they see a barrage of attacks, a sophisticated, coordinated smear campaign,
[01:49:58] even if they've never heard of me, they go, you know what, I'm going to actually take
[01:50:01] a look at what this guy is about.
[01:50:04] And when they come here, or they see the YouTube videos, they like what they hear, okay?
[01:50:17] Even my brother said it.
[01:50:18] He said the reason he hates everyone else is because promise after promise, after promise
[01:50:23] they fail.
[01:50:24] And Zoran did what he said.
[01:50:25] He originally was iffy on him.
[01:50:27] Yeah.
[01:50:28] Yeah, we are restoring hope and good governance, folks.
[01:50:31] This is huge.
[01:50:32] We are associating good governance with democratic socialism.
[01:50:37] That is a major, major goal of this movement, okay?
[01:50:42] It's not just about winning.
[01:50:43] It's also about succeeding.
[01:50:44] It's also about follow through.
[01:50:47] That's how it works at a time when Americans on both sides of the aisle have completely
[01:50:57] newsweek as a poll on if you scroll down.
[01:51:01] This is an old polls for echelon insights from April when they first did attack ads
[01:51:10] on me.
[01:51:11] If you look, if they conduct a new poll with my name recognition, it's going to be abysmal,
[01:51:15] by the way.
[01:51:17] Are you kidding me? For the past six months, I have been inundated with a barrage of hate
[01:51:22] ads, almost tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars of earned negative
[01:51:28] media. It's going to be abysmal. Democrats are going to say they don't fuck with me
[01:51:33] and they hate me, older Democrats especially. And the entire Republican Party knows who
[01:51:39] I am now and despises me. It's going to be a devastating pull the next time they do it.
[01:51:46] That is the entire point of this though.
[01:51:48] The entire point of this exercise is to create this outcome in the polling, so then they
[01:51:54] can turn around and say, see, everybody hates this guy.
[01:51:59] You sure about that?
[01:52:00] Yes.
[01:52:01] But it doesn't matter.
[01:52:03] You know what matters?
[01:52:05] Democratic socialism and its approvals are going up.
[01:52:08] So who cares, okay?
[01:52:10] I am one man.
[01:52:13] I'm a media outlet.
[01:52:14] I'm a platform for democratic socialism, I'll platform for socialism in general.
[01:52:21] And I will continue to be that platform, continue to be your megaphone for your frustrations,
[01:52:25] for your desires.
[01:52:28] But it doesn't matter if the corporate oligarchs despise me, okay?
[01:52:36] It doesn't matter.
[01:52:39] Yes.
[01:52:42] They are united in their hatred of me, and I welcome their hatred.
[01:52:54] Just know that if you fight for the working class, I will be by your side, no matter what.
[01:52:59] It does not matter.
[01:53:01] Same goes for Angie Nixon.
[01:53:03] Right now, Angie Nixon is in this interesting interim period where will the party actually
[01:53:08] back her?
[01:53:09] Will they not?
[01:53:10] attention falls off of her. If she can't actually fundraise, if she is left alone, we will be
[01:53:17] by her side. Okay? I worry about this. 100%.
[01:53:27] Look, as someone who's devoted my life to the Democratic Party, obviously I want Abdel
[01:53:34] said to win in Michigan. All I'm saying over and over again on CNN and all forms of social
[01:53:38] media is that he's a sworthy woman hating anti-semitic terrorist trying to destroy America. Yeah, exactly.
[01:53:44] About what he, like his corruption, how he a vote for Mike Rogers is a vote for Donald Trump and Donald Trump's
[01:53:50] agenda. It's a vote to make Donald Trump in charge of the Senate. Like we have to get focused on the main thing. And the main
[01:53:57] thing is Mike Rogers.
[01:53:59] Agreed.
[01:53:59] Mike Rogers is corrupt. Mike Rogers wants to give your give your money to rich people. As much as you would have
[01:54:06] health care. I vote for him is to ensure that Donald Trump gets to appoint more Supreme Court
[01:54:10] justices like this is. And like that is a thing. We got to talk about Mike Rogers.
[01:54:15] Well said. I agree with that for sure. Especially because you know what? You know what's really
[01:54:22] crazy about Mike Rogers? I mean, everything he sucks. But what is one of the most consequential
[01:54:30] foreign policy decisions of this administration thus far. The failed war against Iran. The
[01:54:39] impact that it's had on the domestic front, the anger and resentment that's brewing against
[01:54:44] Donald Trump against Israel that goaded us into this war with Iran. Do you know who in
[01:54:50] the Republican Party for his entire career has been a staunch advocate to wage war with
[01:54:59] Iran, Mike Rogers.
[01:55:04] There's a lot of anger and resentment towards flock cameras and mass surveillance, the surveillance
[01:55:08] apparatus that this state has created.
[01:55:11] A lot of Republicans hate the flock cameras and the action cameras.
[01:55:15] Do you know who has consistently advocated to expand the surveillance state?
[01:55:22] Mike Rogers.
[01:55:24] Mike Rogers is at the scene of the crime for every single damn thing that has happened
[01:55:31] in this country that people now fucking despise.
[01:55:34] So the very fact that we're not having that conversation and instead talking about Abdullah
[01:55:40] al-Said hanging out with a Twitch streamer is insane.
[01:55:44] Okay?
[01:55:45] And yes, we will talk about Mike Rogers.
[01:55:47] Actually, you know what?
[01:55:48] Let's do it right now.
[01:55:51] jocobin reported on this
[01:55:53] media coverage around michigan senate race and i'll do i'll say it's ties the
[01:55:56] samba gris become constant and hysterical less discussed
[01:56:00] michigan republican mike rogers career-long advocacy for an iran war
[01:56:03] now wreaking havoc
[01:56:04] wreaking economic havoc on michigan
[01:56:06] mike rogers push for war with iran for two decades
[01:56:11] it's not a secret that mike rogers supports the iran war
[01:56:13] since dot on blanche or six months ago the michigan republican canada senate
[01:56:17] uh... for senate called iran an imminent threat to our country that must not
[01:56:20] have a nuclear weapon, said the war was absolutely right, and a win-win-win for us, believes
[01:56:25] that we are better off today than where we were when it started, and has said he doesn't
[01:56:29] mind the idea of giving Trump congressional authorization to keep the war going.
[01:56:33] I was for all of this when it wasn't very cool to be for all of this.
[01:56:36] He boasted last year after Trump launched his first attack on the country.
[01:56:40] charges wasn't exaggerating
[01:56:46] well they deleted some of the statements that's funny
[01:56:52] to a migration iran deal weaponization
[01:56:55] and he's still defending it ironically enough it's not new
[01:56:59] i mean uh... it's not all this like new shit
[01:57:03] nation from congress to continue the war or to potentially start a new
[01:57:07] I mean, I don't mind giving the president authority to continue.
[01:57:11] You can't stop in mid-negotiation.
[01:57:13] I think that would not be good for America, but I want him to wrap it up.
[01:57:18] And my understanding is he's doing just that.
[01:57:20] He's negotiating to get this thing done.
[01:57:22] That's the right course of action.
[01:57:24] We want it done.
[01:57:25] And think of this.
[01:57:26] When Iran is no longer the lead sponsor of terrorism in the world, which it is, think
[01:57:32] about the peace that comes across the Middle East for the first time in my lifetime for
[01:57:36] That's the goal here. So for people who don't want to send money to Israel, guess what your way that you do that is make sure that Iran is no longer a danger and a threat to its neighbors or the United States of America.
[01:57:47] Yeah, that's Mike Rogers, a man who has spent his entire career in Congress petitioning to wage war against Iran. Okay, it's bullshit.
[01:58:04] and forward to that day where we don't have to send money to Israel because Iran is no
[01:58:10] longer a threat either to the Middle Middle East or allies there look at the way he tries
[01:58:15] to position this he says oh yeah we will eventually once we practice that we will never give money
[01:58:19] to Israel get the fuck out of here the very fact that Mike Rogers also has to lie about
[01:58:30] his ambitions of cutting off aid to Israel one day because it won't be necessary. It shows
[01:58:36] where this conversation is now. The very fact that Mike Rogers has to act as though he's against
[01:58:45] data centers shows that we are winning. So in our moment of cultural victory, in our moment of social
[01:58:54] victory in our moment of political victory, to focus on distraction after distraction,
[01:59:03] led by the cynical Republican Party that is responsible for all of the struggles that Americans
[01:59:10] are experiencing is an abdication of responsibility. It is outright collaboration with the fascists.
[01:59:20] It is outright unacceptable here or the United States, okay? We are short on time
[01:59:26] But I do want to talk about some local issues data centers. We have a story
[01:59:35] Yeah
[01:59:38] Ron McDaniel complains the truck shimmer brago bombing Kamala Harris having condemned his empire Jesus Christ, dude
[01:59:44] Well, I think it's not even just Republicans, but also
[01:59:48] independents and some of the moderate Democrat voters out
[01:59:51] there that are like, hey, wait a minute,
[01:59:53] this is way too much for me.
[01:59:55] And I'm going to have to make it out and vote and get my vote
[01:59:58] in and make sure that we never have somebody who
[02:00:01] flirts with communism out loud.
[02:00:04] This is unacceptable.
[02:00:05] So yeah, I think that this will be a big motivator
[02:00:08] in this race.
[02:00:09] A lot of people talk about how the DSA-type candidates are
[02:00:13] a gift to republicans and you can make that argument but it's bad for our country overall
[02:00:18] right like this might help republicans in the midterm elections might help with the
[02:00:23] presidential election but in the future i mean this it is crazy to me that we are at
[02:00:27] this point in time in our country where we have people with these type of ideas with
[02:00:31] this type of hatred towards our country who are saying these things out loud and people
[02:00:36] are going in droves to vote for them that really concerns me it concerns me for our
[02:00:41] for our future and for our future generations.
[02:00:44] Well, blame the decades of indoctrination
[02:00:47] in the schools for that one.
[02:00:48] I mean, there's no other way to explain this
[02:00:51] other than these kids have been brainwashed.
[02:00:52] And when they get the right to vote,
[02:00:54] this is what happens.
[02:00:56] Stephanie Hamill, thank you, have a great weekend.
[02:00:59] Be sure to like and subscribe
[02:01:00] for all the Fox News latest on YouTube
[02:01:02] and catch full shows streaming now on Fox One.
[02:01:06] Joining us now, Michigan GOP Senate candidate
[02:01:08] and outside opponent, Mike Rogers is with us.
[02:01:11] uh... i'm sure you have a lot of commentary on what you just heard in
[02:01:14] again this is only the tip of the iceberg with them
[02:01:18] all it is this guy's a complete con man
[02:01:22] uh... it's unbelievable to me that he is more proud of of egypt than he is his
[02:01:26] whole country of america
[02:01:28] and this explains to me why he doesn't like mac and i'll and what he doesn't
[02:01:32] like for pickups
[02:01:33] what he doesn't like businesses that sell alcohol
[02:01:36] uh... i mean this the list is he's only doesn't like football he thinks that's
[02:01:40] racist too
[02:01:41] I mean, this guy is the same guy who couldn't answer the question
[02:01:47] on transgender surgery of children because he supports it.
[02:01:51] He couldn't answer the question on defunding the police
[02:01:54] and letting heart and criminals out of prison
[02:01:57] because he supports it.
[02:01:58] And he can't distance himself from Hassan Piker at all.
[02:02:03] He is clearly his running mate in this thing, came as his closer,
[02:02:09] still maintains his relationship.
[02:02:11] And this guy has said bio things about America.
[02:02:14] They don't like America.
[02:02:15] I think that's disqualifying.
[02:02:18] All right, well, he compared transgender mutilation surgery
[02:02:22] to circumcision with our own Jesse Waters.
[02:02:26] On top of that, you know, he continues to defend
[02:02:28] Hassan Piker, you know, the guy that America deserved,
[02:02:31] 9-11, picture the Twin Towers behind him
[02:02:34] when he does his podcast among many, many
[02:02:36] other controversial things.
[02:02:38] He just, he won't even criticize that specifically.
[02:02:41] I don't know why, you know, just heard of,
[02:02:43] I don't know why they are demanding,
[02:02:45] because the guy has said a million and crazy things
[02:02:49] and any sane person, I don't think whatever one can.
[02:02:53] It's so funny, dude, you're Sean Hannity.
[02:02:55] What are you talking about?
[02:02:57] I've said crazy things.
[02:02:58] You are Sean Hannity.
[02:03:01] I don't even need to say anything other than that.
[02:03:04] It's Sean Hannity speaking.
[02:03:08] I've said crazy things. Your entire career is saying the craziest possible things that
[02:03:16] you can get away with saying.
[02:03:18] Also, this is cancel culture. This is anti-woke posturing. These are social injustice warriors.
[02:03:29] Okay?
[02:03:32] That's what these guys are.
[02:03:35] Instead of virtue signaling, they're vice signalers.
[02:03:38] Instead of being social justice warriors, the hysterical social justice warriors, they're
[02:03:42] social injustice warriors.
[02:03:46] I got it, guys.
[02:03:49] Got it.
[02:03:50] Yes, his name is Scott Hannity.
[02:03:51] Oh my God, I'm starting to get annoyed.
[02:03:52] Oh my God, everyone has one fucking joke at this goddamn community.
[02:03:58] Campaign with this guy or even talk to him, to be very honest.
[02:04:01] Yeah, I think Hassan Piper is the alpha male in that relationship.
[02:04:06] This guy follows him around, can't wait for his next hateful speech about America.
[02:04:12] And by the way, there's so much stuff on this, Sean, that go to stopabdool.com.
[02:04:21] Don't believe us.
[02:04:22] We've used his own words, laid it out for you.
[02:04:25] Everybody can go to stopabdool.com.
[02:04:27] You can see what a con man he is.
[02:04:29] says one dude this is this is this is the weakest oppo dump of all time by the way
[02:04:35] like when you're when you're running a campaign that is pure oppo dump not on the candidate
[02:04:44] that you're contesting the candidate that you're fighting against but a random twist rumor you've
[02:04:49] lost the thing and now he's trying to say something else exactly like a con man yeah i was an
[02:04:58] an FBI agent. I went after drug dealers and human traffickers and swindlers. I know a
[02:05:03] con man when I see one dog, you are literally endorsed by the president. He is the greatest
[02:05:09] con man America has ever seen. He has conned America on numerous occasions. He is the
[02:05:14] most corrupt person in this country. He is the most corrupt leader of this country.
[02:05:21] Like, historically, the level of graft is undeniable, it's unbelievable, it is so transparent.
[02:05:34] Right now, Donald Trump might be the worst leader on the planet, okay?
[02:05:40] Like, broadly speaking, he is, certainly, I suspect, the most corrupt, the most open
[02:05:51] openly corrupt leader in every OECD nation, and even developing nations do not have this
[02:06:00] level of corruption.
[02:06:02] This level of transparent corruption, mind you, okay?
[02:06:06] Like Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan are corrupt autocrats.
[02:06:14] Everyone knows this, everyone understands this, right?
[02:06:17] Even they, at the very least, try to hide how they are stealing the money.
[02:06:25] They hide, they try to hide their paper trail.
[02:06:27] Donald Trump doesn't even have a paper trail, he just says it out loud every day.
[02:06:31] He's like, I'm fucking you guys over.
[02:06:38] It blows my mind.
[02:06:41] Boy, he ranks right up there, and I think the Jesse Waters interview just completely
[02:06:50] showed that.
[02:06:51] And he's just too extreme for our state.
[02:06:54] Well, I would imagine-
[02:06:57] Our Panama Papers would do zero in 2026.
[02:07:00] Dude, Panama Papers is a Trump tweet at this point.
[02:07:04] Like all of the investigative work that was put forth to try to identify who these tax
[02:07:10] Dodgers were how they were sheltering their assets in Panama Donald Trump. There is no Panama Papers. He just tweets it out
[02:07:19] He just tweets it out also Panama Papers ironically didn't really do much either, but that's besides the point Donald Trump
[02:07:27] Every day is another Panama paper for Donald Trump. He's just revealing it himself
[02:07:32] the Detroit Lions fans aren't happy and you know big blue fans Michigan fans and you know Michigan State
[02:07:40] fans aren't particularly happy with his football comments or his comments about fireworks on
[02:07:46] the 4th of July or Mackinac Island. I understand everyone in Michigan loves Mackinac Island.
[02:07:52] It's a great place, Sean. If you haven't been, you've got to go. It's a great place to take
[02:07:56] your spouse or your family. It is iconic here in the great state of Michigan. He also believes
[02:08:02] we should ban gas cars. And I'm not sure if you noticed, we build gas cars here. We have
[02:08:07] a lot of folks
[02:08:09] did notice in the middle class to make those cars
[02:08:12] he's got is just way too extreme if you go to stop at build dot com
[02:08:17] you're gonna find out what has website bro just debate
[02:08:21] one-on-one with michigan u.s. in canada obel said
[02:08:25] yeah really well uh... we feel really really good about the momentum we've
[02:08:27] been able to pick up
[02:08:29] uh... contrast could be more clear you've got uh... guy who voted nineteen
[02:08:32] times race prescription drug prices
[02:08:34] helped to move legislation that expanded opioids in a time of a crisis.
[02:08:39] It took a million dollars from the pharma industry to do it,
[02:08:42] versus a doctor who rebuilt the health department,
[02:08:45] and put Narcan inventing machines for free,
[02:08:48] eliminated up to $700 million of medical debt.
[02:08:51] You've got a guy who's taken $5 million from corporations to run campaigns,
[02:08:54] and somebody who's taken none.
[02:08:55] You've got a guy who's going to bootlick Donald Trump in this crazy real war,
[02:08:59] and then the trade war with Canada that we shouldn't be fighting,
[02:09:03] versus somebody who is going to stand up to Donald Trump.
[02:09:06] And so our contrast with Mike Rogers couldn't be more clear.
[02:09:09] And when we're looking forward to continuing
[02:09:11] to contrast with him, I wish he'd debate, though.
[02:09:14] It seems like he's a little cowardly to do that.
[02:09:17] That's why I call him Rogers the Dodger.
[02:09:20] Have you ever talked to Jeremy Moss?
[02:09:21] And so how are those discussions done?
[02:09:24] We've had a number of good productive conversations.
[02:09:27] Will there be future campaign events with Hassan Piker?
[02:09:32] We have no intention to campaign.
[02:09:34] We're more focused on the folks you're campaigning to
[02:09:36] when we're going to be up and down the stage,
[02:09:37] just like we did there in primary.
[02:09:39] Do you have a response to Henry Skolton's comments
[02:09:40] that she is not going to endorse you?
[02:09:42] Do your connections sound like her
[02:09:44] and have you reached out to her for now?
[02:09:46] She's got her own decisions to make.
[02:09:49] If her differences with me to her are bigger than our
[02:09:53] collective differences with Donald Trump,
[02:09:55] that's for her to decide.
[02:09:56] But I see Donald Trump as an existential threat
[02:09:59] and Mike Rogers as a.
[02:10:00] You were used and abused by this man, wait, what?
[02:10:04] Oh my God, he hates you.
[02:10:05] Are you guys being parasocial?
[02:10:11] What is wrong with you guys, brother?
[02:10:16] Brother.
[02:10:19] We want Abdul to win, okay?
[02:10:24] If his calculation, is he making a political play?
[02:10:27] He's not disavowing.
[02:10:29] He's not saying like, oh, I fucking hate this guy.
[02:10:31] He's saying in his mind, his calculation is,
[02:10:36] if any attention going forward,
[02:10:41] if we were to go out and do a campaign rally
[02:10:44] or something like that together,
[02:10:46] it's going to cause a media shit storm
[02:10:48] that will not be beneficial for him to talk about policies.
[02:10:53] Okay?
[02:10:55] We can't afford distractions.
[02:10:57] And yes, in some respects, in some respects, the media has done its job.
[02:11:13] It is now officially a distraction.
[02:11:15] If we go out and do a campaign, I become the story.
[02:11:19] You don't want that.
[02:11:20] You got 66 days remaining.
[02:11:23] You don't want a random California podcaster to become the main story.
[02:11:29] You want the story to be on Mike Rogers.
[02:11:32] Okay?
[02:11:33] That's it.
[02:11:40] That's it.
[02:11:41] I have said this even before this last round of attack where I said, when people would
[02:11:47] ask me all the time, do you plan on doing any events?
[02:11:49] I said, look, I'll be there if he needs me.
[02:11:53] What do you think that means?
[02:12:03] Do you understand?
[02:12:08] And the reality is, it's better if he doesn't need me, because if he needs me, that means
[02:12:15] that there is real trouble.
[02:12:17] means that establishment media is absolutely hammering him. That means that he's having a
[02:12:24] harder time fundraising. That means that there is less enthusiasm and less excitement for his
[02:12:31] candidacy for the under 45 year olds. So that's an issue, right? It's not an unsolvable problem.
[02:12:42] them. We can solve it. But that would mean that his campaign is not doing as well.
[02:13:04] It hasn't gotten bad enough to the point where you're coming up in conversations
[02:13:06] during phone banking and canvassing. The momentum is still stronger for him than Mike.
[02:13:10] They hate that he moved to Florida and suck Trump's dick. Yeah
[02:13:15] You haven't been there since the primary this whole shit is stupid you've repeatedly said you don't have to be there and you're not
[02:13:20] Kingmaker yes
[02:13:25] In a general election your brain your name brings in no one the Hassan Abbey heads are already in no you guys are wrong I
[02:13:33] Don't even agree with that narrative
[02:13:35] But right now I'm not willing to entertain it regardless and I'm not willing to fight for that regardless
[02:13:41] Right
[02:13:46] Because there's no reason to do that right now there will come a time and place where that argument will be tested
[02:13:54] Perhaps in two years
[02:13:56] Okay
[02:14:05] But you have to remember, this is not about me at all.
[02:14:11] This is about a broader movement.
[02:14:14] This is about real changes taking place, okay?
[02:14:24] The reason why I say you're not entirely right about this, by the way, is we already
[02:14:30] covered this, yes, but don't talk about Hasan Piker challenge.
[02:14:34] already responded to this. The reason why I say that there is still plenty of room for growth is
[02:14:41] because I think a lot of you in this community don't even realize how many fans I have that don't
[02:14:49] tune in every single day to the broadcast and how many people that are broadly favorable to not
[02:14:58] just myself, but this movement in general, who actually don't even know that there were primaries
[02:15:06] that took place. Americans are not tuned into politics at all. We are freaking nerds, okay?
[02:15:14] We're very unique with our level of, with our intensity and with our level of interest
[02:15:21] in politics, in the primaries, in the midterms in general. You have to remember, the majority of
[02:15:26] Americans don't even go out and vote in the midterms, even in the general, okay?
[02:15:36] Americans don't even vote for the president.
[02:15:45] So there are still probably so many people who might even be fans of mine who are oblivious
[02:15:53] that the midterm end, the primaries ended and they don't know when the midterm elections are.
[02:15:59] So yes, there's always still a room for growth. There's always still opportunities to reach out
[02:16:07] to newer audiences and other college run, that kind of thing. But the calculation I suspect
[02:16:15] from the campaign is that it would be a distraction more so than a benefit.
[02:16:23] Louisiana will always pass bill criminalizing homelessness with jail and unpaid labor.
[02:16:31] Yeah.
[02:16:34] Labor is back on the menu.
[02:16:35] Well, it's never really gone away.
[02:16:37] Let's be real.
[02:16:38] A rubber stamp on Donald Trump.
[02:16:39] And so my hope is as a Democrat, she's going to see the need to defeat him.
[02:16:45] I guess she's just nursing older wounds from the primary, but even Congresswoman Stevens
[02:16:50] has moved on.
[02:16:51] So it's time for us to come together as a party and build together.
[02:16:56] We did pretty well in her district.
[02:16:57] I think we won by about 25 points.
[02:16:59] So we're going to keep having this conversation with Democrats there and looking forward to
[02:17:04] winning decisively in Grand Rapids and beyond in November.
[02:17:08] Hassan Piker is a streamer in California.
[02:17:15] You would think if you turned on any media that this whole campaign is about a streamer
[02:17:20] in California. That's not what this campaign has ever been about. I'm less interested in
[02:17:25] going to the sort of tabloid version of our politics where we cover this as like, oh, who's
[02:17:29] in, who's out, who's up, who's down, who's talking to whom.
[02:17:32] Yeah. Well, it does matter. Michigan-Democrat Center is down to a duel, Said. Now says he
[02:17:37] has no plans to campaign with the left-wing streamer, Hassan Beiker, following his anti-Semitic
[02:17:42] remarks on American Jews supporting Israel. But I'm sure-
[02:17:45] Yeah, this is, that was the biggest error overall is, is, uh, you never want to be, um, you never
[02:17:53] want to be taking ownership over, uh, cynical attacks. And you never also want to say something
[02:17:58] that is untruthful, right? Cause nothing I said was anti-Semitic, but now they are, now the narrative
[02:18:07] is set in because they're like, well, Abdul even recognizes anti-Semitic and Abdul is an anti-Semite
[02:18:11] himself, you know, like that's the, that's the argument from Fox news. So it sucks.
[02:18:15] Sure. He would go to a pool party again with them since then over a dozen democratic leaders
[02:18:20] have spoken out against piker's comments, including, this is actually a really smart
[02:18:24] play. Don't listen to the parasocials. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, I don't think anyone here
[02:18:30] agrees that it was, and I certainly don't that the way that that was rolled out wasn't, wasn't
[02:18:37] smart. I don't even think Abdul would agree with the way that that message was
[02:18:41] Rolled out because so far he's remains steadfast in terms of just like not leaning into not giving an inch to
[02:18:49] oppositional framing at all
[02:18:52] Because why would you want to be tied to an anti-semite dude?
[02:18:56] Do you not understand how fucking bad that is? It's a self. It's an own goal
[02:19:01] You don't want to be tied to an anti-semite. You're not some guy who's going to
[02:19:05] You don't want to come across like you went and you campaigned with a guy who you now
[02:19:14] consider being anti-Semite.
[02:19:16] You don't consider, like Abdulaziz does not consider me to be a fucking anti-Semite.
[02:19:20] Let's be real.
[02:19:25] None of these Democrats that I have campaigned alongside or show support to consider that.
[02:19:32] That would be ridiculous.
[02:19:34] Next guest, who has never stopped, who says there is zero place for this kind of hatred
[02:19:39] in our nation.
[02:19:40] And to his credit, he's been saying this all along, joining me now in New Jersey Congressman
[02:19:44] Josh Gottheimer.
[02:19:45] Congressman, it looks like you have some company in your party.
[02:19:49] Is it enough?
[02:19:51] Well, first of all, you saw that our Democratic leader, Akeem Jeffries, came out swinging against
[02:19:56] the Sompiker, and you're seeing others as well.
[02:19:59] Listen, this shouldn't even be a debate.
[02:20:02] We've got this streamer who is a socialist who, for some reason, some of my colleagues,
[02:20:08] a few of them, have campaigned with, including the Senate candidate in Michigan.
[02:20:13] Yeah.
[02:20:14] Josh Budheimer is real first.
[02:20:18] Let's be real.
[02:20:22] He does not care about anything.
[02:20:25] He is an odious racist.
[02:20:28] It is very clear.
[02:20:29] is a rapacious, lomophobe, and that's precisely what he's doing. There is, under no circumstances,
[02:20:39] do you go to Fox News and try to take the chances of a Democrat who's running for Senate,
[02:20:48] who won the primary, who's now a part of the Big Tent, doesn't matter if you don't like
[02:20:54] it, it is zero, it costs $0 to shut your bitch ass up, Josh Gottheimer. Okay. And you could
[02:21:03] maybe own a fraction of this dignity that you have cast aside in this moment. Okay.
[02:21:12] Horrible. But this is a guy who said that 9 11 was America's fault. He said our troops
[02:21:18] deserve to be shot at. Yeah, he called Jews pig dogs. Right. This is not a guy. You know,
[02:21:24] is the guy who's got foreign influence, he hates America, he loves Fidel Castro and Mao,
[02:21:32] and so I don't really understand how anyone would want to be anywhere near this guy.
[02:21:36] He's just a-
[02:21:37] By the way, I forgot for a second that it was Josh Gottheimer speaking.
[02:21:40] I literally, I'm sincerely, I thought it was the Fox News anchor talking.
[02:21:45] A grifter.
[02:21:47] So you know, as far as I'm concerned, everybody should speak out against the Sompiker.
[02:21:51] Ro Connick suggested that the Democrats do not need to distance himself from Hassan
[02:21:56] Piker.
[02:21:57] Doing so would be weak.
[02:21:58] Is that weak?
[02:21:59] Because he went on his podcast.
[02:22:01] I mean, I can't explain Ro's statement.
[02:22:05] I saw that.
[02:22:07] All I can tell you is you've got a lot of my colleagues, including Hillary Scoltan in
[02:22:10] Michigan and others who refuse, you know, who have said, hey, to, to Asiad, you've
[02:22:17] got to condemn this guy.
[02:22:19] frankly saying you're not you know he's obviously taking steps out to say he's not going to campaign
[02:22:22] with him which obviously is a is a very good development but now he's got to come out and
[02:22:27] make it clear that he condemns his comments including the most recent one where uh piker
[02:22:32] said that really jewish people who support the u.s. is a relationship which is a key
[02:22:37] ally of united states of america right they're bringing violence onto them i love that he also
[02:22:42] had the audacity to say, I have foreign influence.
[02:22:47] Josh Gottheimer, you're the last person to talk about this.
[02:22:51] Like your entire point here is to advance foreign influence, the influence of Israel.
[02:22:58] Israel is a foreign country still, Josh.
[02:23:01] We haven't officially recognized Israel as the 51st state big dog.
[02:23:12] King A-Pack, yeah, no, it's ridiculous.
[02:23:18] Selfs, blaming Jewish people for actually bringing violence to hurt Jewish people, which is just
[02:23:26] ridiculous.
[02:23:27] It gives you the sense of just how nuts this guy is, and as far as I'm concerned, everybody
[02:23:33] should come out and condemn him, and we're seeing that, which is a good development.
[02:23:38] Congressman.
[02:23:39] It is the sentiment on so many of these college campuses, and I know you know this, Columbia
[02:23:44] uptown from here, we saw the UCLA, there's a lot of professors spouting out this crap.
[02:23:50] It blows me away.
[02:23:52] Hassan Piker was asked about his relationship with El Sayed, obviously they're great friends.
[02:23:57] Here's what he said, is El Sayed changing in order to beat Mike Rogers in Michigan?
[02:24:02] Listen to this.
[02:24:03] There are going to be a lot of people who are already questioning Abdullah Sayed's sincerity
[02:24:09] on these issues that will then turn around and say, oh, he's, you know, he's moderating
[02:24:18] his position on Israel, all this stuff.
[02:24:20] I don't think he is.
[02:24:21] Okay.
[02:24:22] I will say this.
[02:24:23] I am literally the person that is being dangled.
[02:24:27] And I'm going to tell you once again, he's not moderating on his perspective on Israel
[02:24:31] or anything like that so maybe yeah good yeah they clipped is like why yeah I
[02:24:41] don't even understand what the point is yeah he's not he's not he's still a
[02:24:45] fighter he's not changing his positions his positions are broadly popular that's
[02:24:52] why he hasn't condemned him because Sampaica knows he hasn't changed why should
[02:25:00] he? The question is, why should he? Why should Abdel Al-Sayed take a less popular position
[02:25:11] just so he can appease like eight Democrats? A less popular position for the base?
[02:25:23] Well, who knows? All I know is that the, I think the pressure is real. And Al-Sayed,
[02:25:29] he he said he's not going to campaign with them i think the next step is to condemn him
[02:25:33] and i think we've just all have to be clear and then the next step is to kill him
[02:25:46] so there's no place for this kind of hatred in our party this anti-american hatred uh and and
[02:25:51] we've got to stand up to it and frankly just famously fox news also never says democrats
[02:25:57] broadly hate America. Isn't it that interesting? The only time Fox News will have Democrats
[02:26:04] on to present the narrative that some Democrats actually don't hate America is when they're
[02:26:09] attacking the left leg. It almost feels like politicians in DC are united. They're united
[02:26:19] against you, Chatters.
[02:26:21] I've said very clearly, we've got to make it clear that the DSA, the socialists are
[02:26:25] not Democrats. They're attempting to hijack the party, but they're not welcome in the party.
[02:26:31] And they're welcome to go do their own thing and have their own views and have their own party.
[02:26:34] But you know, what's-
[02:26:36] Yeah, the problem for our boy, Josh Budheimer, is that
[02:26:45] Democrats, self-identifying lifelong Democratic Party voters, agree with me,
[02:26:50] And they don't agree with you on the issue of Israel and on numerous other issues as well
[02:26:56] So you can keep complaining about this all day every day. You'll be like, no, they need to find their own
[02:27:02] They need to find their own candidates or whatever
[02:27:07] They need to find their own party well, perhaps it'll be you who needs to find his own party
[02:27:14] clear is some of their views and their approach is not welcome in the Democratic Party, just
[02:27:24] like the fact that frankly Hassan Piker and his views are not welcome in the Democratic
[02:27:29] Party.
[02:27:30] So Congressman, I welcome your point of view, you've been pretty steady all along, but for
[02:27:33] your party, do you think this hurts you guys in the midterms?
[02:27:38] No, I listen, I think this kind of stuff is what the Republicans are going to try to use
[02:27:44] to uh... to drive a wedge
[02:27:46] uh... but you know our focus has been very clear
[02:27:49] uh... i'm sorry
[02:27:51] also if you recognize that
[02:27:53] why the fuck are you on fox news doing it
[02:28:01] why are you on fox news doing it then
[02:28:05] yet dingus
[02:28:07] next week he's gonna be like dingus
[02:28:10] the son piker called a prominent
[02:28:12] Jewish lawmaker a dingus everyone knows dingus is the worst anti-semitic slur anyone has ever used
[02:28:23] Right after pig dog
[02:28:32] God I fucking hate josh got him or so much. He is such a piece of shit
[02:28:36] it. And you saw Leader Jeffries repeat this over and over again and frankly this is what
[02:28:42] I'm talking about at home every day. What are we going to do to get the cost down for
[02:28:45] folks? Because whether you're talking about the cost of rent or what people are paying
[02:28:49] for food or for the electric bill, for childcare, it's a fortune we've got to get those prices
[02:28:54] down and frankly, you know, you see President Trump, which I can't really understand. Maybe
[02:28:59] you guys have a good answer for me on this. He's, you know, raising tariffs, getting
[02:29:02] in fights with Canada, causing milk and toilet paper and all the other prices to go up.
[02:29:06] And we're focused singularly and we will continue to be on getting costs down and getting prices
[02:29:11] down for folks.
[02:29:12] Dog, you just spent the last five minutes not focusing singularly on that and leaning
[02:29:17] into this narrative.
[02:29:27] And to me, that's the most important thing.
[02:29:29] You guys will try, the Republicans will try to distract, but at the end of the day, we're
[02:29:32] focused very clearly on this.
[02:29:34] You're talking about an aberration in just a few people on the other side who are saying
[02:29:40] these sort of things.
[02:29:41] And you have it too with Freedom Caucus people saying things that I know a lot of people
[02:29:44] don't agree with in the Republican Party.
[02:29:47] What's clear is where Democrats-
[02:29:48] Yeah, right.
[02:29:49] Yeah, Republicans famously don't agree with the Freedom Caucus with the Tea Party Movement.
[02:29:55] Yeah.
[02:29:56] Hey, man.
[02:29:57] Donald Trump is president right now.
[02:29:59] i don't know if you've been paying close attention to what the fuck's going on
[02:30:04] that's our and how we're gonna win
[02:30:06] but i know you don't look at the freedom caucus and say anti-independence
[02:30:10] you're not everybody and happy is not anti-israel though which is you know
[02:30:14] very important
[02:30:15] uh... nellis you want wall to wall coverage talking about this guy because
[02:30:18] uh... because the way to scare people and not noticing dot was a terrible
[02:30:21] president republicans want to spend more time talking about a stream of the
[02:30:25] I want to talk about Donald Trump and his policies
[02:30:27] or what he's going to do to help the average American.
[02:30:28] The economy is an absolute mess right now.
[02:30:30] The job market is horrible.
[02:30:32] Inflation is out of control.
[02:30:33] This war is ridiculous.
[02:30:35] Donald Trump is stealing billions of dollars.
[02:30:36] And they want to talk to me about a guy who streams online.
[02:30:39] I don't care.
[02:30:39] I think some of the things that Asana said are offensive.
[02:30:42] The vast majority of Democratic party leaders
[02:30:43] called this stuff out.
[02:30:45] But you guys want to do wall-to-wall coverage
[02:30:46] talking about this guy because it's an easy way
[02:30:48] to scare people into not noticing.
[02:30:50] But Donald Trump is a terrible lame duck president
[02:30:52] that people are really upset.
[02:30:53] and his party is barreling towards a midterm loss because the vast majority of Americans
[02:30:57] are really angry right now.
[02:30:58] We got a poll this week showing Donald Trump's full raise of 31%.
[02:31:01] He's underwater on basically every issue, including immigration, which is kind of hard
[02:31:05] to believe.
[02:31:06] People are really upset right now.
[02:31:07] And I think that Donald Trump and the MAG movement, if folks like Clay would be better
[02:31:10] out talking about what they're going to do to actually help people instead of trying
[02:31:12] to demagogue Arabs and Michigan or Democrats on Jewish voters.
[02:31:17] It's just ridiculous.
[02:31:18] play
[02:31:21] Look Mike do it
[02:31:26] We are gonna move on from Hassan piker really quickly to the Hassan piker of last
[02:31:32] Election season wrong on pretty much everything. He always argues. I've got an easy question
[02:31:36] Oh, there's a great coach. I'll be able to play and what now should men be able to play in women's sports really simple
[02:31:44] That's it. That's it. Okay. This is why I jokingly referred to myself as the new transgender.
[02:31:54] Okay. And some people got mad at me for saying that, whether they're like,
[02:31:57] how dare you say such a thing? Like, this is transphobic or whatever it is. Like,
[02:32:01] no, this is what I was referencing. I'm like, this is,
[02:32:06] the Republicans have one thing. That's it. They all, they, they have one move.
[02:32:11] And that is to be like, well, what about transgender athletes?
[02:32:23] That's all plays guy. He's going to go right back to the top two points on social issues. So he
[02:32:26] doesn't have to talk about the economy. It's a culture amount of urban trans kids. It's all
[02:32:30] plays guys. It's a very simple question. Should men, should men be able to play? What's the
[02:32:36] Republican party's plan to deal with the fortability crisis in the country? No, no, no.
[02:32:40] Mike, what's the Republican Party's plan to do with the economy and the job market
[02:32:43] without trust and affordability?
[02:32:44] Actually, no, give me, I've heard you talk about trust and affordability.
[02:32:48] You got anything new?
[02:32:49] You can answer a basic question.
[02:32:50] You got anything new?
[02:32:51] Should men be able to play women's sports?
[02:32:53] You got anything new?
[02:32:54] Should they?
[02:32:55] Answer the question.
[02:32:56] You got anything new?
[02:32:57] You should be able to play women's sports to some degree.
[02:32:59] You got anything new?
[02:33:00] What's Donald Trump's plan to do with the economy?
[02:33:02] Running out of time, thanks to you both for joining us.
[02:33:04] Why can't you answer the basic question?
[02:33:05] We'll have you back sometime in the future when we can do it without fighting.
[02:33:09] Thanks. We're waiting.
[02:33:21] The people guys can we have more affordable living?
[02:33:23] Republic is best we can do is trans athletes, bad Dems best we can do is
[02:33:27] condemn his son, Piker.
[02:33:28] Awesome.
[02:33:36] Oh, we're running out of time now that you want to talk about affordability.
[02:33:39] Sorry. Oops. We have run out of time, folks. Look at that. We've run out the clock.
[02:33:48] We had time. It's just crazy because we just had, we had five extra minutes for transgender
[02:33:53] athletes. And all of a sudden we have run out of time because you keep not falling for debate.
[02:34:00] Oh, look at that.
[02:34:07] Alright, so this was Corporate Trent cooking, putting on a clinic apparently.
[02:34:15] that if you've got someone who's running for office, hanging out with someone who's an anti-Semite,
[02:34:20] how that might look bad for the Democratic Party, what say you?
[02:34:26] Ah, wow, I think that's what I'm saying. Go ahead, you first.
[02:34:35] Corbin.
[02:34:36] We, ah, all right, so with you, I didn't know what you it was. I'm sorry.
[02:34:40] You know, this is not an extreme position. You know, this is being painted
[02:34:44] as this sort of radical idea that the actions of Israel are impacting the Jewish American
[02:34:51] people, right? So what you got to look at though is the American people themselves. 60% of Republicans
[02:34:57] nearly under the age of 49 now hold an unfavorable view of Israel. That's Republicans. 60% of
[02:35:03] Americans hold an unfavorable view overall. We're seeing people say now that they don't
[02:35:09] believe that we could should continue military aid to Israel. I mean this is
[02:35:13] not a unusual position. You know and the thing that you people keep saying is
[02:35:18] that Hassan Piker said that Jews are to blame for whatever happens to them. But
[02:35:22] let's think about some actually the things that he said and how similar it
[02:35:26] is to what other people have said. Here's a quote from Dana Bash. Benjamin Netanyahu
[02:35:31] has made us less safe. He frankly put Jews in an uncomfortable position across
[02:35:35] the country. Here's another one. It's an obvious fact that not young people use in America less
[02:35:41] safe. Okay, that's the liberal media. And basically, what he's saying is that American
[02:35:46] Jews, American Jews, I mean, how do you, okay, how do you say something and get away with the fact
[02:35:52] and then not suffer if you're suffering, if you're actually running for election and you're
[02:35:57] associating with rhetoric such as that American Jews are bringing on.
[02:36:01] Dude, this is the method. I'm telling you right now, because these guys are so used to
[02:36:12] Democrats agreeing with them unconditionally, you just short-circuit every Republican operative.
[02:36:23] They don't even try to answer what you're saying. They just immediately get mad and they go
[02:36:31] It's amazing.
[02:36:36] It is amazing.
[02:36:38] I cannot believe it.
[02:36:40] Every time we've seen a Fox News host get a modicum of pushback from a commentator,
[02:36:47] someone who's just like, yeah, I don't think this is real.
[02:36:50] I think you're lying.
[02:36:51] They lose their minds because they're so used to liberals being like, I'm so sorry.
[02:36:56] I'm so sorry about everything.
[02:36:58] I'm so sorry about my liberalism.
[02:37:00] I'm such a nasty little anti-American pervert. Please love me. That is the attitude from
[02:37:08] most liberal commentators that go on these goddamn platforms. They're like, I'm so sorry
[02:37:14] for being a fucking libtard. Please, why won't you like me? I know you're a fucking monster
[02:37:21] and you call my movement a pedophilic race communist movement that's seeking out the
[02:37:27] destruction of the western world but please I'm the good one I'm the good
[02:37:33] one please I will get down on my hands and knees and lick your boots
[02:37:37] Republican commentator all of a sudden when someone turns around and says now
[02:37:41] fuck you he's not a racist he's not an anti-semite you guys are fucking lying
[02:37:45] about him they go
[02:37:48] God, I hate this, this desperate need for validation from some of the worst scumbags
[02:37:59] in fucking media from so many liberals that have no self-respect whatsoever.
[02:38:07] Have some fucking decency, you know?
[02:38:09] Thank God for Corbin.
[02:38:11] Violence to themselves because they support Israel.
[02:38:14] That's just pure insanity.
[02:38:15] What the man said.
[02:38:16] That's what he said.
[02:38:17] Like do you understand like after 9-11 everybody had to denounce the attacks everybody that was Muslim had to say
[02:38:24] I don't agree with that. So you want him to denounce Israel? Where are you going with this?
[02:38:29] What I'm saying is it's clear that the actions of other people can absolutely
[02:38:34] Impact Americans of a certain of a certain group right and that fact is happening right now
[02:38:39] And it's not the liberal media saying it's not just a son piker
[02:38:42] It is happening across the American public the actions of Israel are so extreme and our support for that is so extreme and
[02:38:50] Unending that people are having backlash and yes, that does indeed create a problem for Jewish people
[02:38:56] And that's not just extreme people that are saying that it's people like Ezra Klein people that are active in the Jewish movement
[02:39:03] There are a lot of people in the actions of Israel and then yahoo are making us less safe
[02:39:07] I can't wait for someone to just openly say the quiet part out loud in the way that Maddie Iglesia said the other day
[02:39:13] Which is like well, he's Muslim. So obviously he fucking hates Jews. He can't sincerely care about anti-Semitism
[02:39:19] Because that's what it is
[02:39:21] That's a part of the reason why these guys keep repeatedly saying this over and over again like they're like oh
[02:39:27] Hassan well, he's anti-Israel. So of course, he can't sincerely care about Jews
[02:39:31] Oh Hassan, he's he's a Muslim of course. You can't sincerely care about the well-being and safety and security of American Jews
[02:39:38] It's fucking bullshit. It's racist as hell. That is the whole point
[02:39:43] Okay, but the difference between opposing Israel and American Jews
[02:39:47] I mean there is a complete difference there and those who are here in America that support Israel
[02:39:53] Of course, they're gonna support Israel if they're Jewish and of course
[02:39:55] are going to be against terrorism and that is what a lot of these comments are basically
[02:40:00] promoting.
[02:40:01] What you just said would have been considered anti-Semitic.
[02:40:02] It's against Jews.
[02:40:03] I mean, it is.
[02:40:04] Definitely, I like it a lot.
[02:40:05] What you just said would have been considered anti-Semitic.
[02:40:07] Yeah.
[02:40:08] Yeah, I think the bottom line is the fact that this panel is even happening today, the fact
[02:40:13] that this is the dominating talking point and not the issues Abdul wants to focus on
[02:40:18] tells you there was a miscalculation here.
[02:40:20] On one hand, he wanted to use the access of Hamas Piker is what the internet is now
[02:40:25] call
[02:40:34] buddy
[02:40:39] buddy
[02:40:44] You're not part of the team big dog. I don't know what's going on here, but that's oh
[02:40:49] Ooh, that is crazy, that is...
[02:41:00] Bro, my dad listens to Devery?
[02:41:06] Yeah, I wonder what people that call me Hamas Piker think about black people.
[02:41:12] You know, because the very same people that say that to me, they're not exactly on the
[02:41:22] view either, right?
[02:41:24] Because it comes from the same place, comes from the same place, that anger, that resentment,
[02:41:32] that hatred, it's not logical, it's illogical, it's racism.
[02:41:41] time I checked, especially in the United States of America, races don't make a special exception
[02:41:48] for black people. As a matter of fact, actually, I would say races primarily hate black people.
[02:41:53] Anti-blackness is the largest vehicle of racialized animus in this country, has been since its
[02:42:01] Foundation and hasn't really changed all that much.
[02:42:06] So you know,
[02:42:09] I'm him in order to access his audience, but he didn't calculate the fact that he's gonna
[02:42:17] have to deal with the baggage.
[02:42:19] And now he wants America to forget all of the terrible things that Piker has said that
[02:42:24] just isn't gonna happen.
[02:42:25] And by the way, it really doesn't matter what I think, look at what's been dominating the
[02:42:29] media all week long. It's not about the issues. It's about Hassan Piker. And that is an issue
[02:42:34] I think a duel is going to continue to struggle with along with the Democratic Party.
[02:42:39] Uh, Hugh, basically just like go ahead. I think just like they made a miscalculation
[02:42:45] during the campaign with Haley Stevens and a pack dumped all the money into that race
[02:42:49] and still didn't win the media and so many other people are making a miscalculation. Now
[02:42:54] I'm telling you Republicans even are turning their back on the state of Israel because
[02:42:58] of the actions they're taking.
[02:42:59] But that has nothing to do with what we're talking about today, though.
[02:43:04] What it has to do with is elections, and elections are going to have consequences, and the idea
[02:43:08] is that this will somehow hurt Abdul in the general.
[02:43:12] I don't think that's actually true.
[02:43:14] I think people want to see America focusing on America again.
[02:43:18] I think that we should also, but what we're focusing on right now are our American g...
[02:43:22] Why is she so mad?
[02:43:27] Why is she so mad?
[02:43:29] What the hell is going on?
[02:43:32] Lady, you don't know me?
[02:43:36] Like, yo.
[02:43:42] I mean, sure, people will say, oh, she's on the payroll.
[02:43:44] She's on the payroll.
[02:43:45] She's paid to, like, react this way, but honestly, it's kind of wild that she's just, her brain
[02:43:55] is so bricked, Jews and how somebody actually came out like piker and said that American
[02:44:02] Jews are basically bringing violence onto themselves for supporting Israel.
[02:44:06] That's just crazy.
[02:44:07] And I'm sorry, but Syed, that is what he said.
[02:44:09] And if Syed is going to say, I got the quote right here, do you want to hear it?
[02:44:13] He basically said that American Jews are essentially, no, I mean, that is the point that he's trying
[02:44:19] to make is that American Jews are almost putting themselves in harm's way by calling
[02:44:24] violence onto themselves for supporting Israel.
[02:44:30] My best friend was a concert for a major GOP House member.
[02:44:33] He flat out told me they don't have another line of attack.
[02:44:35] That is why they're so mad.
[02:44:37] Yeah, no, I, I, I, I recognize this early on when that Axios
[02:44:41] report came out and the Republicans said that their midterm strategy was just,
[02:44:45] just say, fuck a Sompiker and the Democrats were foolish enough to lean
[02:44:50] into it. Some of the top Democrats because they thought, oh, well,
[02:44:53] condemned him. What more do you want and move on? Because if I'm being charitable, here's
[02:45:01] what's going on. This is the only line of attack the Republicans have. They're going
[02:45:04] to make me the most famous man in America, the most infamous man in America with the
[02:45:08] hopes that, you know, someone, I guess, takes me out or I shut the fuck up. And they do
[02:45:15] sincerely believe that like associating me with all these campaigns and then talking
[02:45:19] about all these clips that doing the clip show over and over again is actually going
[02:45:22] be a successful strategy. The problem is it's only as successful as Democrats let it be. So,
[02:45:30] if the Democrats respond to that by saying, yeah, no, we hate this guy too. Let's move on.
[02:45:37] All of a sudden, you took ownership over me, okay? You took ownership over me because I'm not
[02:45:44] going to go away. I am a person who has voted for the Democratic Party my whole life. And not only
[02:45:49] that, but also a lot of the positions that I have, your base identifies with. So you're literally,
[02:45:56] you're turning around and you're telling your base, like, fuck you. Okay? You're telling your base,
[02:46:01] actually, we care about Israel more than we care about punching Israel. We, more than we care about
[02:46:07] your needs, more than we care about anything else. Okay? That's a mistake. The real way to tackle
[02:46:17] of this issue is to be like, look, I don't like Hassan. Hassan doesn't like me. It doesn't matter.
[02:46:22] You guys only want to talk about this. If you are one of these people, if you're, if you're
[02:46:26] Hakim Jeffries, you just come out and say, look, Hassan is no fan of mine and I'm not a fan of his.
[02:46:32] Okay. But the reason why you're talking about Hassan is because you cannot talk about the
[02:46:38] affordability crisis. You cannot talk about the wars that Donald Trump is waging after claiming
[02:46:43] that he was going to be the peace president. Of course, Hakeem Jeffries never say that because
[02:46:48] he likes what Trump is doing in Iran. He likes that Trump is chaotic, but ultimately, there are
[02:46:56] a lot of things that Hakeem Jeffries cares about or Hakeem Jeffries donors care about
[02:47:01] that Trump is advancing, right?
[02:47:07] That's all you need to do. If you don't like me, you don't have to come out and be like,
[02:47:12] No, this guy is awesome. I love him. That's not my expectation and all my expectation is for you to do your fucking job
[02:47:24] You know
[02:47:42] It turns out you can simply short circuit every fox in the house by simply
[02:48:05] refusing to with their cynical grift. They're so used to liberal pundits who cave and agree
[02:48:29] with them, they lose their mind at this latest pushback.
[02:48:57] Tell me that suit jacket doesn't have elbow pads,
[02:48:59] please know it does. Please turn around and look at Kyle. You woke her up. You woke her
[02:49:13] up. Are you happy? I hope you're happy. There's a Norm Finkelstein conversation that took
[02:49:24] place apparently. Friday we've got. We're going to take a look at that briefly and then
[02:49:28] We're gonna move on but I gotta pee I gotta pee again. I've been drinking so much water. I'm pacing
[02:49:35] Like a goddamn fountain the world-renowned norm finkelstein who has a new book out that everyone needs to check out called
[02:49:43] Gosses grave diggers an inquiry into corruption in high places and norm
[02:49:48] It's always a pleasure and an honor to have you
[02:49:50] Well, you know what? It's always a pleasure to be your interlocutor
[02:49:56] smart
[02:49:57] You're serious and you're competent.
[02:50:01] So I was at that.
[02:50:03] And I always, whenever I meet a stranger and we get the conversation,
[02:50:10] at some point it comes around, do you watch Krista Wohl on Breaking Points?
[02:50:16] Yeah.
[02:50:18] Well, that is very kind coming from you.
[02:50:22] High praise indeed.
[02:50:24] I never praise, I speak facts.
[02:50:28] I have a lot that I want to get to with you today.
[02:50:32] I want to dig into your book, which I think is extremely important.
[02:50:35] I want to get into a particular chapter in your book about the mass rape allegations,
[02:50:41] probably the most controversial part of the book, although you have a way of courting controversy
[02:50:46] by stating facts, I would say in general.
[02:50:48] But I wanted to start by getting your reaction to something that's been in the news lately,
[02:50:53] which is that Hassan Piker has come under attack from the right, but also from a lot of quote-unquote liberal Democrats for comments
[02:51:02] he made about the rise of anti-Semitism.
[02:51:05] And so let me just read his comments for you, Norm, and then get your reaction to the attacks on him and also the substance of the comments.
[02:51:13] So this is what sparked all of this outrage.
[02:51:17] He said, quote, look, the anti-Zionist Jews in my community, you have a very tough job ahead of you,
[02:51:22] where you have to go back to your communities,
[02:51:24] try to get your elderly relatives to understand
[02:51:26] that this connection between Israel and Zionism
[02:51:28] that's expressed over and over again
[02:51:30] through a lot of these Jewish institutions
[02:51:32] is teaching people the idea that Jews are monolithic
[02:51:35] and this is a dangerous mode of propaganda.
[02:51:38] If Jews in America keep putting this idea out there
[02:51:40] that they're singularly invested in Israel,
[02:51:43] eventually someone's going to come around and take action.
[02:51:45] Not against the state of Israel, mind you,
[02:51:47] but against American Jews.
[02:51:48] I don't know how many different ways I can explain this.
[02:51:51] I don't know how people don't recognize how dangerous this predicament is, how dangerous
[02:51:55] this is for Jews.
[02:51:58] Your reaction to those comments and the outrage surrounding them?
[02:52:02] Well, first of all, a qualification, which is I don't really know Hasan Piker as a podcaster.
[02:52:12] I don't watch podcasts with any kind of regularity.
[02:52:15] So it's no offense to him.
[02:52:17] I just don't.
[02:52:18] That's not my mold of dog.
[02:52:20] You talked to me for three hours.
[02:52:23] What the hell?
[02:52:26] That's crazy.
[02:52:28] He is Mr. I am going to.
[02:52:32] It's so funny.
[02:52:33] He has to like over explain everything.
[02:52:38] Intellectual engagement and inquiry.
[02:52:41] Having said that, I think we should make some general marks and then specific ones.
[02:52:48] As you become more, um, as you become...
[02:52:52] Norm says at one point later, I find it hard to take someone seriously to the streams 12
[02:52:55] hours a day.
[02:52:56] Where is the reading?
[02:52:57] No!
[02:52:58] Norm is cooking me!
[02:53:02] He was here!
[02:53:03] Also, I read your book, Norm!
[02:53:05] I read Gus's gravediggers!
[02:53:09] What the heck?
[02:53:10] Become a bigger public figure.
[02:53:13] Your personal responsibility increases.
[02:53:16] things you might say in your room in your house or you might say in a bar or you don't say in public.
[02:53:24] Wait, also, there's no way Norm Finkelstein is saying, I am not being serious about my commentary.
[02:53:36] That is insane. Brother, you sat right there and you were saying things that I was arguing against
[02:53:44] because I was like, I think you're blaming Jusel too much overall.
[02:53:50] Like, that is crazy. I never thought, I never thought I'd see the day.
[02:54:00] And it's the same thing here. If you have an audience of 10, it's very different than if you
[02:54:05] have an audience of a million. That's because words can have an impact. I don't-
[02:54:12] This was recorded three months ago. No shot. This is new, right?
[02:54:18] Me in the sense that a word is the equivalent of a physical blow. I mean, in the sense that
[02:54:25] words can have a political impact. They can determine the result of an election.
[02:54:33] And here, Abdul Sayed's election is at stake. And wrong words can put that election
[02:54:42] at risk. So let's make it clear. Legally, morally, some may use the fancy word epistemologically.
[02:54:49] Of course, he has the right to say what he believes or even wants to say and doesn't
[02:54:53] believe that right is there. But politically, you have to weigh your words. You have to be
[02:54:58] careful. As I gained a bigger and bigger audience, I won't say I won't say I didn't say what I
[02:55:05] believed because I was more careful. I was more careful because I realized suddenly
[02:55:08] My words can have a political impact.
[02:55:10] After October 7th, many people were very curious how I would parse morally and factually what happened.
[02:55:16] And that was for me a very fraught moment trying to figure it out.
[02:55:19] No, no, no. This is not an old interview. This is an interview from this morning.
[02:55:28] Because my words now would politically count.
[02:55:31] So, having now said that, the second qualification, I would like to enter a third.
[02:55:35] I was on Hassan Piper's program. I have to say, I was positively impressed. He had done his homework.
[02:55:42] It was clear he read the book. It was clear he had thought through what would be the right questions to ask.
[02:55:47] And as you must know, most interviewers do not read anything beyond a blurb for a book they're interviewing.
[02:55:52] So I thought, okay, the young fellow, he's trying to be serious. And I respect that. He was trying to do his job as you do.
[02:56:00] Okay, as to the remarks themselves, I find it a truism. If Israel calls itself the state of the Jewish people, if Jews do not repudiate that title, or what's a thousand times worse, embrace it.
[02:56:15] Yeah, by the way, I know what his worldview is on this issue. I know his position on this issue. We argued a little bit on this issue.
[02:56:22] So it's really funny where he said, you know, politically you have to be careful about what you say and then he's going to go quote-unquote
[02:56:30] Be smote. Okay. He is going to go to town
[02:56:36] Which is why it's so funny because he goes way further than myself
[02:56:43] As far as you know how certain things work and what did this this
[02:56:50] allegiance
[02:56:51] with Israel looks like and
[02:56:57] So yeah, I I do find it I do find it funny
[02:57:03] He's going to yeah his advice to me his advice to me is
[02:57:12] You know be be careful with your words because you didn't go far enough
[02:57:16] That's what that's what his argument is his argument is a son piker did not go far enough
[02:57:22] He was being a coward with what he was saying
[02:57:25] Which is this is jokes. This is jokes. I
[02:57:29] Have already, you know, we had we parsed through our words. We had our back and forth. Everybody knows my position
[02:57:35] I am currently joking. Okay. Oh
[02:57:40] That title uncritically then the reasonable and we have to say reasonable not irrational
[02:57:46] The reasonable inference is that you support the actions of the state of Israel.
[02:57:52] You accept that those actions represent you.
[02:57:56] Israel is calling itself the state of the Jewish people.
[02:57:59] You are embracing that title.
[02:58:01] Well then, you are embracing the genocide that Israel is carrying out, allegedly, in the name of the Jewish people.
[02:58:09] And that being the case, you can't be shocked if people react very angrily and more at what then,
[02:58:15] naturally ensues. I just think that's obvious. Every country in doors that you know in the 1950s
[02:58:22] there was a book written it was either the 50s or the early 60s it was called the ugly American and
[02:58:26] it was about how if the United States carries out in a certain way don't be shocked if the citizens
[02:58:32] are being held accountable for the actions of that state and Americans are regarded as ugly the
[02:58:37] ugly Americans the supporters of actual criminal actions by the state. We all understood that during
[02:58:43] the war in Vietnam that a lot of people were going to feel a high degree of resentment
[02:58:46] against Americans until there was a large anti-war movement which made clear there was
[02:58:50] a distinction between the citizens and the state.
[02:58:52] Didn't every German embrace yourself for the last 80 years?
[02:58:56] Hasn't every German had to bear the burden of what happened during World War II?
[02:59:01] They still carry that burden 80 years later?
[02:59:04] So the idea that non-Jews will feel a high degree of animus towards Jews if there isn't
[02:59:12] a clear rupture between American Jewish opinion and Israeli opinion, and Israeli state opinion
[02:59:18] which also happens to be Israeli society opinion, unless there is a clear rupture between American
[02:59:23] Jewish opinion and Israeli state and society opinion, then of course there are going to
[02:59:29] be dire repercussions when a state is carrying out a genocide.
[02:59:32] I want to add one caveat to that and then we're done with the question.
[02:59:36] The caveat is, I feel that Hassan Haider, not from any malice, absolutely not, not from
[02:59:40] any mouse, but maybe oversight or maybe myopia. I believe he left out a crucial point. The
[02:59:44] most recent polls show that 30 between 30 and 40% of American Jews believe Israel's carrying
[02:59:49] out a genocide in Gaza. No, I did say that. No harm. I did. Damn it. He don't got internet.
[03:00:02] I did. The argument was about how there is no monolithic Jewry, and that Jews in America, by and large,
[03:00:14] tell his webmaster, his webmaster will be hearing from me.
[03:00:20] Okay, his webmaster will be hearing from me. Don't you worry.
[03:00:25] The argument was literally that Jewish institutions that masquerade as Jewish advocacy organizations
[03:00:38] when their primary focus is actually defending Israel are doing a disservice because they're
[03:00:44] teaching people the wrong lesson.
[03:00:46] They're lying to the broader American public because Jews are not singularly invested
[03:00:53] in Israel. It's not the top priority. It's the ninth priority out of 10. He's reading
[03:01:07] you like you read chatters. That rupture has occurred to a significant degree, and it's
[03:01:15] a very public rupture. You must remember, but some of your audiences, their memories
[03:01:19] I'm very sure you must remember the biggest mobilizations at the beginning of the guys
[03:01:24] of genocide, the mobilization at Grand Central Station in New York, the mobilization at
[03:01:27] the Statue of Liberty.
[03:01:28] They were all initiated by Jews.
[03:01:30] It was Jewish organizations.
[03:01:31] It was Jewish voices of peace.
[03:01:32] The organization always gets name wrong, not in my name.
[03:01:35] Or if not now, I don't know.
[03:01:36] It's not now.
[03:01:37] Those are all Jewish organizations.
[03:01:38] I happen to believe, and you know I don't have a jot of Jewish openness blood in my
[03:01:41] body that doesn't exist.
[03:01:42] All right, I don't want to say not a jot.
[03:01:44] I'm Jewish.
[03:01:45] I have to say the fact that 30-40% of American Jews are willing to acknowledge that Israel
[03:01:50] is committing a genocide.
[03:01:51] When you bear in mind from their early childhood, they're being brainwashed at home often in
[03:01:57] synagogue on high holy days and so forth, that Israel is a critical, if not the critical
[03:02:03] element of their identity.
[03:02:04] That's what they carry around when you're asked the question, what is the main thing
[03:02:08] that makes you Jewish?
[03:02:09] Very frequently the answer to the question used to be support for the state of Israel.
[03:02:13] that they managed to work themselves out of that bubble
[03:02:19] and say, well, facts are facts.
[03:02:21] They're committing a genocide.
[03:02:22] That's pretty impressive.
[03:02:23] Actually, I don't believe it.
[03:02:24] I really doubt any other collective
[03:02:26] would be capable of that.
[03:02:27] If you were asked Americans during the Vietnam,
[03:02:30] well, I don't know.
[03:02:30] I suppose it would be what stage in Vietnam more.
[03:02:32] But even towards the end,
[03:02:33] I don't think a majority of Americans
[03:02:35] would have acknowledged that the US
[03:02:37] is committing massive war crimes in Vietnam.
[03:02:38] I don't believe a majority would acknowledge.
[03:02:40] I could be wrong.
[03:02:40] I'm sure there are many polls.
[03:02:42] So I think it's an impressive fact.
[03:02:45] If you look at the encampments in spring 2024, she was a very prominent in those
[03:02:48] encampments. They were, that's just a fact.
[03:02:51] Yes.
[03:02:51] So I think this is what's so interesting about,
[03:02:58] like this is the, this is the point, right? He's not wrong.
[03:03:01] I know people will say, oh,
[03:03:03] Norm is being an exceptionalist or something.
[03:03:07] There will be anti-zion as they get mad at this.
[03:03:08] Okay, but he is right like the amount of fucking the amount of indoctrination that takes place is immense
[03:03:19] So the fact that there is this generational breakdown amongst young American Jews, especially with this indoctrination kept in mind is fairly
[03:03:29] is fairly impressive. It's remarkable. No, he's objectively wrong. See, I told you.
[03:03:39] It is. That element was missed in Hassan Tiker's
[03:03:49] remarks, and I suspect because I hope, and it's really a hope against hope, I hope he
[03:03:54] won't turn into a grandstander, which is one possible path at the fork in the road when
[03:03:59] you become a prominent personality. That's one possibility, one path, the fork in the
[03:04:04] road. And the other is,
[03:04:05] Dude, Norm is so funny. He just spent the last 15 minutes arguing a position that I
[03:04:11] maintained in the, in the broader transcript. I wish, I wish he would have just seen like
[03:04:18] two additional minutes of the commentary and then it would have it would have
[03:04:24] identified his concern and I'm speaking to myself I don't believe itself praise
[03:04:31] it simply effect and I'm serious I'm deadly legally serious why would he why
[03:04:37] would he think that I don't maintain this position when I argued against him
[03:04:43] Every time I get an email praising me, expressing homage to what I have done with my life, I
[03:04:53] honestly, I don't smile. I become very unhappy. Do you know why? I swear. Because it means
[03:04:59] I have to work harder. I have to work harder. I have to live up to the expectations. I have
[03:05:02] to rise to the occasion. So it just means to me, more work, more work. Why am I answering
[03:05:07] emails? I've got to read this. I've got to read that. So that's the other fork in the
[03:05:09] road, the other possibility, the other path. One is you become a brand standard. The other
[03:05:12] is you become more and more serious about your responsibility because now you are as I began
[03:05:18] this answer to the question now you're responsible for many more people. The guys now have high
[03:05:23] expectations for you. And taking your answer in its entirety, I think you've also identified a real
[03:05:27] contradiction that he's gonna have to grapple with in streaming eight to ten hours a day while also
[03:05:31] intervening at the highest level of politics because at the point that you made that 30 to 40
[03:05:35] percent of American Jews have to now switch to doing is a point that he makes probably on a daily
[03:05:38] basis but he didn't make it within the four corners of the clip that his opponents used and more
[03:05:42] point what we read you is what he actually said they match together kind of separate clips to make it even
[03:05:45] less charitable to him so this this new world where somebody who speaks a nine ten hours a day
[03:05:50] and has people paid to watch him and click him to undermine him just presents a new dilemma in
[03:05:53] politics that hasn't existed before there are two aspects to it one is there's a french expression
[03:05:57] a sprit less go yeah the spirit of the staircase and you know what it means it means you say something
[03:06:01] let's say crystal ball you're interviewing somebody and you're saying you say something and then
[03:06:04] after the interview you walk out and you're walking down the stairs and oh why didn't I say that
[03:06:07] I'm not digging this Nick Fuentes 2x style of viewing, all right, I'm a band,
[03:06:27] um, Norm speaks in normal, uh, pace. Sorry, if you admit that you're a Nick Fuentes
[03:06:35] watcher I'm going to permanently ban you. Gross. Secondly, normally speaks in normal speed at two
[03:07:00] eggs. One thing and the other is um it is true. I find it difficult to take anybody seriously
[03:07:10] who streams 10 or 12 hours a day. Where's the reading? Where's the preparation? I asked him
[03:07:16] once that he's and he's actually reading right there. It's wild. It's a whole other world. It's
[03:07:19] like imagine if you streamed yourself reading. I should just let me say two things. It was
[03:07:25] first of all the first thing I want to make an acknowledgement. I make mistakes like that
[03:07:29] of leading things out. And I have a very close collaborator, friend, and comrade, Jamie Stern-Weiner.
[03:07:35] And he said to me on several occasions, he said to me, Norman, I think you should remember in the
[03:07:41] midst of announcing American Jews for this and that and the other, remember the fact of the
[03:07:46] achievements, the things they did in many ways that indicated American Jews. That's why I was
[03:07:50] careful to say it now, that I do, I'm more conscious of remembering.
[03:07:56] Yeah, I bet his collaborator after our interview was like, Norm, what are you doing? You're,
[03:08:01] you're cooking Jews too hard. Because he was.
[03:08:06] To say that, because I was told, I believe more than one location by Jamie, not to omit that. So,
[03:08:14] I made that mistake. Norm, I wanted to ask you a related question to that, because I've interviewed
[03:08:20] a few what you would call liberal Zionists who have come out and said Jeremy Benamy,
[03:08:25] of J Street being one of them, who's willing to say it's a genocide, recognizes the war crimes,
[03:08:29] you know, sees the horrors that are being committed, but is still deeply committed to an
[03:08:33] Israeli state and thinks that it is possible to have a liberal, democratic, Jewish ethno-state.
[03:08:40] I wonder if you could speak some to that mentality because it's something that
[03:08:42] it's very hard for me having not grown up in those Jewish institutions and with the teachings
[03:08:46] and the culture surrounding that to understand how someone who can see civil rights abuses
[03:08:51] so clearly on the domestic level still holds on to this idealized notion that somehow Israel
[03:08:55] could be very different from from its current expression. I think there are I listened to
[03:09:02] your interview with a fellow. Was it with the fellow from J Street? Yeah, which is last name.
[03:09:08] I listen to the interview and first of all, I don't believe it's politically useful now.
[03:09:18] I'm not talking about ideologically or intellectually.
[03:09:20] I don't think it's politically useful now to discuss final solutions to the Israel-Palestine
[03:09:24] conflict.
[03:09:25] It's not in the drawing board.
[03:09:26] It's Karl Marx famously said that he doesn't make recipes for the future.
[03:09:32] You have to deal with the here and now, what's possible, and where you can actually infect,
[03:09:37] effect or inflect change in the here and now, and also in the foreseeable future, of course.
[03:09:42] There is no solution on the drawing board right now.
[03:09:45] There's no, the Israeli government is off the charts, out to lunch, over the cliff.
[03:09:51] And the Palestinian life is completely disintegrated and atomized.
[03:09:54] There is no representative Palestinian institution, and there's not anything near a representative
[03:09:58] Palestinian institution.
[03:09:59] So how can you in this context talk about solutions?
[03:10:02] It just seems as Professor Chomsky would say, it sounds like a subject of a graduate
[03:10:05] seminar.
[03:10:06] It doesn't have much contact.
[03:10:08] That's number one.
[03:10:10] Number two, even though I wrote my doctoral dissertation
[03:10:12] on the subject of Zionism, and I have, therefore,
[03:10:16] some materials taken it, not that the dissertation got me
[03:10:18] very far professionally, I don't believe in its value.
[03:10:23] It's useful to use terms like Zionism
[03:10:26] because there's no common consensus
[03:10:29] on the meaning of the term.
[03:10:32] It means so many different things to so many different people,
[03:10:35] such that Noam Chomsky throughout his life
[03:10:38] called himself a Zionist,
[03:10:39] and Benjamin Netanyahu called himself a Zionist.
[03:10:42] And when you ask Professor Chomsky,
[03:10:43] he would say,
[03:10:45] since I was five years old, I've been a Zionist.
[03:10:48] I know when I was five years old,
[03:10:49] I was learning how to tie my shoe and zipper my pants.
[03:10:52] But Professor Chomsky, by five,
[03:10:53] had already read the whole corpus on Zionism
[03:10:55] and had these out with a Zionist.
[03:10:57] So the term is too indeterminate, in my opinion,
[03:11:01] to have any political utility.
[03:11:04] I do believe, and I'm sure you're aware,
[03:11:06] I do believe that the phrase Jewish supremacist
[03:11:10] does have a meaning, and it does have a resonance.
[03:11:13] Everybody knows what white supremacy is.
[03:11:16] So it's not hard to form a fairly concrete image
[03:11:19] of Jewish supremacy.
[03:11:21] And I think Jewish supremacy is the core problem right now.
[03:11:24] And now you could say historically the problem.
[03:11:26] I think Zionism being interpreted as Jewish supremacist ideology is the way to connect
[03:11:38] these two concepts.
[03:11:41] No disrespect to the boomer who I love and admire, but I think a big part of the reason
[03:11:50] why, like, the big, the, here's, here's what's being lost in the conversation. There's the
[03:11:59] theory and there's what's happening in practice. And the issue here is Zionism is Jewish supremacy.
[03:12:14] It is a ethno-religious supremacist...
[03:12:24] What? You're fully disrespecting me right now? No. It is a ethno-religious supremacist ideology
[03:12:29] that is exterminationist in both principle and practice.
[03:12:35] So, I think the real reason why Norm doesn't want to say it is because, and I've had these
[03:12:41] conversations with many super-Israel critical Jews who would be normally considered anti-Zionist.
[03:12:49] I mean Chomsky being one of them, right? Is that this is basically like the last bastion of
[03:13:04] the significance of the term.
[03:13:11] like the last defense of the significance of the term because internally within the Jewish
[03:13:14] community it does mean very different things. It does. That's why I don't fault Omar Bartov too much
[03:13:24] for arriving at the conclusion that Zionism has become fascism and not that it was always
[03:13:34] going to be fascist. So we might disagree on the theoretical framework and that's
[03:13:45] why you'll hear from a lot of Jews who are very critical of Israel and Jews
[03:13:51] that you would assume are anti-Zionists never actually say that they are,
[03:13:54] especially older Jewish theorists, will always shy away from saying that. Even
[03:14:03] Sam Cedar, I believe, says like, I'm a non-Zionist or something like that, right?
[03:14:12] But he's there. We don't have any disagreements at all. There is no
[03:14:16] functional, no fundamental disagreement between my position and Sam Cedar's position
[03:14:23] on this issue. But he won't say it. And I think that's because
[03:14:26] they're speaking to a different audience. I think that the audience that they're
[03:14:33] trying to communicate this to is an audience that has a very different
[03:14:41] understanding between like what it means, what Zionism means to them. What
[03:14:49] Zionism means to them. I don't know about that. No, 100%. I know this from my own personal
[03:14:59] conversations with people that many of you have never even questioned and why they don't call
[03:15:07] themselves. This is a Jewish community inside. This is an inter-community affair.
[03:15:21] To the outside, to non-Jews, there is no... If you're against Israel, you don't have an issue
[03:15:29] being called an anti-Zionist, you call it yourself. Sam Cedar doesn't. Have you ever asked the question
[03:15:41] why? Well, that's because of what Norm is explaining. You're not blown up a spot, right? No, no, Sam
[03:15:49] Cedar personally says it. He says, I'm a non-Zionist Jew. Why doesn't he say he's an anti-Zionist?
[03:15:53] Because like the term Zionism is loaded, but also intentionally vague, and I think that is by design.
[03:16:04] So on the one hand, I disagree with Norm saying like, oh, we shouldn't use anti-Zionist because the definition is too vague.
[03:16:13] I do agree with him when he says Jewish supremacists.
[03:16:23] There's an argument there, I don't want to get into it, but right now the problem is
[03:16:31] that's selling the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in Occupied Territories.
[03:16:34] As it said a while ago now, around 2010-2011, it put out a report, because at that time
[03:16:42] there was widespread debate as to whether Israel was in the apartheid state.
[03:16:46] And each of the major human rights organizations put out a report, and the state international
[03:16:50] put out a report saying it's in its totality in apartheid state. Human Rights Watch put
[03:16:54] out a report saying the occupied territories are in apartheid situation, but Israel itself
[03:17:00] is more problematic. And then Bedselam weighed in, and the executive director of Bedselam
[03:17:05] at that time was a very impressive guy. His name was Hagai El-Ad. He had his PhD in physics
[03:17:10] from Harvard. He was very morally serious. And it was very striking to me that the major
[03:17:16] Human Rights Organizations published voluminous reports.
[03:17:19] The report by Beth Selam was just a few pages.
[03:17:22] It was a skimpy report.
[03:17:24] But I think it captured the core of the problem.
[03:17:27] As you know, in the natural sciences,
[03:17:29] the more simple a proof, the more elegant it is.
[03:17:32] If you can prove something in one page
[03:17:35] that another person has proven in 100 pages,
[03:17:38] your proof is considered the more elegant,
[03:17:40] the more impressive one, which is, of course, different
[03:17:43] in the humanities as the famous renegade Christopher Hitchens
[03:17:48] famously put it.
[03:17:50] His quip was, why say in four words what you can say in 40?
[03:17:54] So the standard in the humanities is just
[03:17:56] the reverse of the one in the natural sciences.
[03:17:59] So going back to Hagia Laude and the Bette-Sellin report,
[03:18:01] I said it was a skimpy report.
[03:18:02] And basically, its essence, I think, is this.
[03:18:06] It said, let's stop talking about occupied territories.
[03:18:09] This one state, it extends from the Mediterranean
[03:18:11] to the Jordan.
[03:18:12] It's been that way since 1967,
[03:18:14] well, you do the math, we're in 2012 or whatever it was
[03:18:17] at this point, it's one state.
[03:18:19] And he said, the foundation of this state
[03:18:21] is Jewish supremacy.
[03:18:23] That's the essence.
[03:18:24] It's a Jewish supremacist state.
[03:18:26] So there's my argument as well.
[03:18:33] That's why a lot of this like aesthetic appeals
[03:18:37] to a two state solution is just simply hand waving away
[03:18:40] the real problem at its core.
[03:18:42] I would say we should scrap the term Zionism, which has no determinant meeting, especially
[03:18:57] before a broad public.
[03:18:58] And that's who we're speaking to, hopefully, and not ourselves, hopefully, and hopefully
[03:19:02] not posing and posturing for the cameras, but wanting to effect concrete, mealy-erative
[03:19:08] change.
[03:19:09] I think you should use that term.
[03:19:11] Now, having said that, we return to your question, and the question essentially is this.
[03:19:16] In theory, does a Jewish state, a state that calls itself Jewish, doesn't necessarily have
[03:19:24] to be a Jewish supremacist state?
[03:19:27] That's the essence of your question.
[03:19:29] Is it possible for a state to be a Jewish state without being a Jewish supremacist state?
[03:19:36] And your point of contention with Jeremy Ben-Ami was that's not possible.
[03:19:42] That a Jewish state, by definition, has to be a Jewish supremacist state.
[03:19:47] That's your contention, in essence, if I'm not mistaken.
[03:19:51] And my answer to that would be, and here I have to say, Professor Chomsky convinced me
[03:19:55] on the point.
[03:19:57] It all depends on how, and I'm not saying this out of deference to him, I used the verb,
[03:20:02] He convinced me, he persuaded me.
[03:20:07] It all depends on how and what aspects is the state Jewish.
[03:20:14] Hypothetically, if it's simply honored Jewish holidays as the national holidays, if it had
[03:20:22] Hebrew as the national language, even though at the time Hebrew and Arabic were both national
[03:20:26] languages in Israel, I believe I'm pretty certain on that.
[03:20:31] So if you used to see signs, they would have been Hebrew and Arabic.
[03:20:33] I don't want to stand on that point, but that's my recollection.
[03:20:37] So if it's a matter of holidays, national holidays, celebratory holidays, in the Hebrew
[03:20:46] language, you could say those are, and also Saturday is the day of rest rather than a
[03:20:52] Friday or a Sunday, things like that.
[03:20:54] You could say it's Jewishness is more or less innocuous, more or less innocuous.
[03:21:03] But when there's discrimination in every department of social life, whether it's in housing,
[03:21:09] residence, jobs, if the army only has Jews serving in it and all sorts of benefits, social
[03:21:16] benefits come from service in the army, then obviously it becomes much more problematic.
[03:21:22] And then it reaches a very high level of problematic when it's objected its goal is to make a homogeneously Jewish thing.
[03:21:35] Then it becomes obviously very problematic.
[03:21:39] That is my central contention of what most people when they say a Jewish state of Israel, what they intend is that the majority population from a demographic perspective in Israel would be Jewish.
[03:21:50] And you can, you know, feel free to correct me if you think this is wrong.
[03:21:53] But I think all of the the discrimination, the apartheid, the atrocities really flows out of that view of a quote unquote
[03:21:58] Jewish state because the moment that, you know, you open up all possibilities of citizenship in an equal way to the entire population
[03:22:04] from the river to the sea, then you have a threat, an existential threat to that conception of a Jewish nation.
[03:22:09] Look, I'm a degree of...
[03:22:13] And there's no question that there's a very high degree of plausibility in what you're saying.
[03:22:19] what you're saying. Because the moment you say it's a Jewish state, it's the natural
[03:22:24] next step is that Jews have to be the majority. And the next natural step from there is then
[03:22:33] non-Jews inexorably pose a threat to your majority status. So since non-Jews inexorably
[03:22:42] pose a threat to your majority status, and your majority status is a keystone of a Jewish
[03:22:48] state, then it follows that the best way to meet that threat is to get rid of
[03:22:53] everybody who is not Jewish. It's just built in. The Zionist view was we can
[03:22:57] tolerate a 15 to 20% non-Jewish. Can we take note of the fact that Norm
[03:23:04] Pinkleston, who only has a landline in his home, has now gotten his webmaster to
[03:23:12] literally put together a setup that is clear, a setup where he can be clearly
[03:23:19] heard from his home, a setup that has a computer in it and a nice camera. W
[03:23:29] production for the webmaster, even though the webmaster failed me. Webmaster
[03:23:35] should have shown Norm the entire quote, the entire clip.
[03:23:42] But W on this side.
[03:23:48] Also it is the funny, the funniest line in this entire interview is he goes 12 hours a
[03:23:52] day on camera.
[03:23:56] Not enough time for reading.
[03:24:00] Minority in our state.
[03:24:01] That was ideally the state would be where is the reading?
[03:24:04] It was the ideal.
[03:24:06] Practically they were willing to tolerate a 15 to 20 percent non Jewish minority.
[03:24:11] So here's the thing, they expelled about 80% of the population in 1947 to 49.
[03:24:18] They got it down to about 15 or 20% non-Jewish.
[03:24:21] And then lo and behold, by the 1990s, it looked like Israel was slowly but surely losing
[03:24:25] that Jewish maturity.
[03:24:27] And what saved them?
[03:24:28] You know what saved them?
[03:24:29] It was the miracle of Russian Jewry, of Soviet Jewry, about a million Russians, allegedly
[03:24:34] Jewish.
[03:24:35] In fact, in the last stages, 40% were not Jewish.
[03:24:36] But yeah, I love that he said allegedly too, because they're not even Jewish, but yeah, post USSR, the Ashkenazi, quote unquote, Jewish population, it is in contention whether or not all of these Russians are Jews, by the way, but they came in and the population of like Ashkenazi Jews rose tremendously.
[03:25:06] Is they left the U.S. sorry they came to Israel?
[03:25:09] They called themselves Jewish and Israel didn't care.
[03:25:12] Just as long as you were publicly Jewish, they took them in to rectify or to preempt
[03:25:17] that potential growing Arab minority.
[03:25:20] And now Israel is, we accept that Salem statement that it's one state and I think it's a correct
[03:25:25] statement.
[03:25:26] It has been one state for a long time.
[03:25:27] That's why it should never be said to occupy territories.
[03:25:28] It's incorrect.
[03:25:29] The essence of an occupation under international law, its essence is very simple.
[03:25:32] An occupation is temporary.
[03:25:33] That's what makes an occupation an occupation.
[03:25:35] it's permanent, it's become an annexation. If it's illegal, uh, annex, if that permanence
[03:25:42] was a result of illegal acts, it's an illegal annexation, but it's not an occupation.
[03:25:46] Bro, Jews traveled all over the planet. Anyone can be Jewish for the most part. Wait, what?
[03:25:53] Dog, we are talking about something very specific about an ethno-state's desires to
[03:26:00] maintain a demographic majority and then literally dropping its quote-unquote standards for what it
[03:26:07] means to be officially declared a Jewish citizen of Israel with the express purpose of what the
[03:26:15] what is this I don't give a fuck what Osama says or does for the next 67 days we're on the same
[03:26:19] team locked in and ready to win wow that's that is a surprising development from the
[03:26:25] the unfuck america tour people
[03:26:43] not to mention that's the whole problem
[03:26:45] language is so loaded
[03:26:46] in particular political language
[03:26:48] i don't want to get
[03:26:49] off intent
[03:26:49] aren't Ashkenazi Jews in israel much more liberal than Mizrahi Jews who were
[03:26:52] always super Islamophobic how come that
[03:26:54] Israel turned so much right-wing post-USR collapse because Ashkenazi Jews by and large
[03:27:01] were much more liberal, but the Jews that came from USSR were not.
[03:27:08] At least that's what Sam Cedar says too, but yeah, the Russian Jewish population is
[03:27:16] like uniquely right wing, from what I understand.
[03:27:30] Ashkenazi Jews are not a monolith, of course not, but we're talking about like by and large,
[03:27:37] How Ashkenazi Jews are viewed or what their politics is reflected as in Israeli society
[03:27:48] and they're usually older, they don't have as many children, they're in the arts, they're
[03:27:53] in academia and they are the last remaining wokes in Israel basically.
[03:28:00] 1000 digressions, but the biggest myth of what happened in Gaza after 2023 was that
[03:28:08] it was a war.
[03:28:09] There was no war in Gaza.
[03:28:11] I just read the new crisis group report.
[03:28:14] They were very strupulous in describing it as a war.
[03:28:17] They knew exactly what they were doing.
[03:28:18] Very careful.
[03:28:19] There was the Hamas massacre on October 7th, and then what ensued was a war.
[03:28:24] And they say it over and over again.
[03:28:25] The moment you say that, Israel's won 95% of the propaganda war.
[03:28:29] It's propaganda war.
[03:28:30] the moment you start describing it to work. In the same way, this is not an occupation.
[03:28:34] Go look up any legal definition of occupation. It's essence is temporary. It's an annexation.
[03:28:38] And it's also, as the International Court just said in July 2025, it's an illegal annexation.
[03:28:42] An illegal, they call it an illegal occupation, but it's an illegal annexation. So that means-
[03:28:48] This is so, Norm is so funny, man. He gets like hyper invested in these semantics arguments.
[03:28:57] You know what I mean? Like, he just gets like, and he's such a stubborn guy, which by the way,
[03:29:02] is a superpower, of course. He has tremendous integrity, and he is also unbelievably stubborn,
[03:29:10] and he's exactly the kind of guy that could be this stalwart defender of Palestinians,
[03:29:23] a chronicler of the harms of the occupation, or as Norm would correct me and say, the annexation.
[03:29:32] But it is really funny, if you know his history,
[03:29:36] like this is exactly the reason why the BDS movement yelled at him so much.
[03:29:44] Like, because he got blacklisted because of his steadfast nature. He got blacklisted for
[03:29:51] obviously being in support of the Palestinians and being one of the most important chroniclers of
[03:29:58] the Israeli ethnic cleansing campaigns.
[03:30:03] This is why he can't take you serious. Words are important, weren't you listening? I know, I know, I know.
[03:30:12] But it is really funny. Sometimes he has no capacity to let bygones be bygones.
[03:30:21] He is the guy who lets minor differences in opinion become like massively consequential almost.
[03:30:40] Yeah, he will grind that axe. It's funny because I'm like the exact opposite of him.
[03:30:46] where, you know, I have a tendency to misspeak personally, but then also outside of that,
[03:30:53] I don't like really care about the minutiae all that much. I care about like what you broadly
[03:30:58] stand for, you know what I mean? Where he's like hyper specific about everything. And not only is
[03:31:08] hyper-specific about everything he will argue to death these these like minor
[03:31:15] semantics differences
[03:31:24] but you know I still I love them and I respect them
[03:31:31] and you both over his plane sometimes yes
[03:31:36] said let's accept what that someone has said one state between the Mediterranean and Jordan and it's half and half
[03:31:42] So you admit you're anti semantic
[03:31:46] Yeah
[03:31:49] It's half Palestinian Arab half Israeli Jewish and if Israel says it will only tolerate a
[03:31:54] 15 to 20 percent minority in its Jewish state then expulsion is built into it
[03:31:59] It's built into it just like Danny Marra said in one of his real rare moments of lucidity
[03:32:02] Benny Morris, he said that transfer, which was the euphemism for expulsion, transfer was a non-quoting him.
[03:32:08] He doesn't like it when I quote him, but I'll keep quoting him.
[03:32:10] He said transfer is inbuilt and inevitable in Zionism.
[03:32:13] That's what he said. It's inbuilt and inevitable in Zionism.
[03:32:16] There are two reasons. One is the ideological reason, namely, how can you have a Jewish state if you don't have a Jewish majority?
[03:32:20] That just doesn't gel. But there's also a practical one, which is virtually no land in Palestine.
[03:32:24] They own about that by 1947. They own about 17% of land, 18% and 20%.
[03:32:28] How can you build a Jewish state if you have no land and which you build it?
[03:32:30] So, of course, he was correct that it was inbuilt and inevitable.
[03:32:33] But as I said to you, there's kind of a discrete question, and the discrete question is, can
[03:32:37] you conceive a Jewish state that's not a Jewish supremacist state?
[03:32:40] And I would say that's a slightly more gray question, though I acknowledge what you say.
[03:32:45] You say that it's hard to conceive the notion of a Jewish state without a Jewish majority.
[03:32:49] And if you are, if the two are kind of inextricably in-
[03:32:52] For the record, I don't disagree with his framing around the importance of words.
[03:32:57] when you say war, you've already lost the argument because it's not a war, it's a genocide
[03:33:00] and like Israel is one that framing. I do agree with him on that. I just think that like,
[03:33:05] there are other things that he says like, you should use annexation and not occupation.
[03:33:15] I agree that it is correct. It's the correct terminology. I just don't necessarily care.
[03:33:22] Like I would never make that an issue or anything like that. You know what I mean?
[03:33:25] intertwined, doesn't that pose serious questions about the status of the minority?
[03:33:31] Because the status of the minority will be to forever be perceived as what Israel calls
[03:33:36] a demographic threat.
[03:33:37] And your population growth will always be carefully monitored to make sure you don't
[03:33:42] cross that threshold of threatening the Jewish majority.
[03:33:46] So I recognize that's a problem.
[03:33:48] The other way to look at it, and I'm not saying it's a, I'm not saying it's the answer, take
[03:33:54] the case of the UK, it calls itself an Anglican state. That's its official title. The Anglican
[03:33:59] church is the church of state. It's an Anglican state. But if you asked most British who are
[03:34:04] not Anglican, does the fact that the UK defines itself as an Anglican state? Is that for you
[03:34:10] an oppressive burden? I think most Brits would say no. They don't much care about it. It's
[03:34:16] there. It exists. But to use my terminology, it's more of the benign as it gets the malignant
[03:34:21] and the spectrum and that's what Jeremy then I mean had in mind. Um,
[03:34:26] then I think it's tolerable,
[03:34:28] but I have to have like an infinitude of asterisks when I say that because there
[03:34:32] are so many qualifications leading to side that you may be right. It might be
[03:34:36] ink. It might be inherently intrinsically incompatible.
[03:34:39] Jewish state, but it's not a Jewish supremacist state.
[03:34:41] And I see it. Not yet.
[03:34:42] Bogdan, this is what your book was, you know, but it also makes me think of.
[03:34:45] I mean, this is also like, what matters is what's happening and I know Norm wouldn't
[03:34:55] disagree with this and what's happening is, obviously, as he said, it's a Jewish supremacist
[03:34:59] state.
[03:35:00] It's an ethno state.
[03:35:01] It's an ethno state project in this permanent annexation.
[03:35:05] These are not minor semantic issues, especially in terms of international law, arena.
[03:35:09] The words we use describe each and every, even as grave consequences, annexation, occupation
[03:35:13] of making go that distinction is very important because occupation is technically legal under
[03:35:17] the Geneva Convention but annexation is totally illegal and it is an international crime.
[03:35:22] Okay, that does make a lot of sense and I know it's not Norm who wrote that even though
[03:35:27] this is something that Norm would probably say, so I'm gonna go ahead and assume that
[03:35:31] you're Norm Finkelstein's webmaster and he's dictating this tweet to you.
[03:35:42] I traffic in the realm of regular folk having normal conversations where this kind of distinction
[03:35:52] is not that consequential, whereas the distinction between genocide and war is.
[03:35:59] You understand?
[03:36:00] That's part of the reason why there are battles that I will fight and battles that I just
[03:36:06] cast aside.
[03:36:10] I hope you understand that norm I hope you don't think less of me for that reason norm
[03:36:16] my goat
[03:36:18] here's a twitter bring just called a chatters chat at chat a tweet
[03:36:31] yeah
[03:36:40] It's only known to the Turkish citizens in Turkey, but it doesn't stay like that in reality.
[03:36:43] What is the meaning of this topic in Turkey?
[03:36:47] This conversation is like the paradox of the Turkish people in Turkey.
[03:37:10] seeing more and more Muslim migration into those countries, you have a surge of xenophobia
[03:37:15] and we don't know what the shape of those countries will look like.
[03:37:18] I think it's clear your analysis of Ghana's lobby from not reading 18 hours a day, I know.
[03:37:23] I need to only have a landline in my house, that'll be my only access to the outside world.
[03:37:28] Like, we don't know if the Catholic Council will maintain you up our tag controller.
[03:37:34] You're totally correct.
[03:37:35] The only caveat I would enter to that is, it's unclear whether these states are reacting
[03:37:43] to an influx of Muslims or they're reacting to a collapsing economy in which Muslims have
[03:37:53] been made the scapegoats.
[03:37:55] In other words, in times of prosperity, it's quite possible those populations would be
[03:38:02] much more welcoming, as was the case in my own United States, when there was obviously
[03:38:08] massive immigration after World War II of 10,000 different varieties, but we still embraced
[03:38:15] the idea.
[03:38:16] It took many forms, but the one that just comes to mind was when David Dinkins described
[03:38:21] the United, David Dinkins' mayor, Dinkins described New York as the gorgeous mosaic,
[03:38:26] and there was a certain pride in that.
[03:38:28] But when times, you know, when the economic situation significantly deteriorates, people
[03:38:34] become much less generous.
[03:38:36] I see it in my own life.
[03:38:37] I went out to dinner with some people the other night, one of whom was from...
[03:38:42] Oh my God.
[03:38:49] Hassan piker in the far left anti-american maloving terrorism doesn't influence online.
[03:39:06] At what point do people look at this stuff and go, dude, you're just mentally ill.
[03:39:12] Dan Clancy has not condemned us on track is on Ken Martin has condemned dude. I love track a pack
[03:39:27] so fucking much track a pack has to be the most successful social media born operation that has
[03:39:41] had real world political impact that Dan Clancy part makes it clear who's behind this. Yeah, of course,
[03:39:48] so many of these people are are insane cultists from the sex pest in the orbit.
[03:39:55] But I'm not even talking about that right now. I'm talking about what track APAC has been able to do.
[03:40:02] Track APAC has been able to successfully and easily allow people to identify with the red
[03:40:09] become like a brand, an institution, and of itself. And it also has made people so insane.
[03:40:22] There's the track Islam one. There's all these like different tracker accounts. None of them hit
[03:40:27] the same way. Okay. None of them hit the same way. And it's, it's a, you know, it's a very silly
[03:40:37] attempt that only demonstrates mental illness. I thought it was a parody when I first saw
[03:40:43] it. Like I was like, there's, this is actually a really funny parody. And then I clicked
[03:40:47] on the account and I saw Dan Clancy. I was like, oh, it's not, this guy is actually real.
[03:40:53] Like this is a real person. Yeah, here's another one. Track commies, commie socialist tracker.
[03:41:00] There's the track Islam one, there's the track Commies one.
[03:41:07] And I guess it's kind of cool that this is like, you know, busy work for some of the
[03:41:14] maladjusted mentally ill shut-ins of society.
[03:41:20] Like this gives them something to look forward to.
[03:41:23] This gives them something to do.
[03:41:26] So it's cool.
[03:41:27] It's like a jobs program, but not really.
[03:41:30] It's the equivalent of getting that one weird possible school shooter kid to put their energy
[03:41:42] and their efforts into something they consider to be productive.
[03:41:46] It's not dissimilar to having elderly relatives that may or may not have dementia, Alzheimer's,
[03:41:54] having them do the crossword puzzle and talking to them daily to ensure that they're still
[03:42:00] communicating, to keep the brain working, and to hopefully push off some of the worst elements
[03:42:07] of dementia. That's basically what it is. Yeah, habitat enrichment. Yep.
[03:42:17] So that's nice. Nice. I can't remember. Well, two foreign countries, no point in naming them.
[03:42:26] And on the immigrant question, they were very tough, even though they were immigrants.
[03:42:31] Well, we came in legally, they're coming in illegally, my taxpayer money and, you know, so on and so forth.
[03:42:37] I think it's a lack of generosity, not the born necessarily of xenophobia.
[03:42:44] Yes, I saw the pojons.
[03:42:45] The born of very hard times.
[03:42:47] Let me ask you this, Norm.
[03:42:50] So I think, you know, one of the things that we're all grappling with is we all watched
[03:42:56] what was done in Gaza with our taxpayer dollars, it was not hidden. It's often boasted about,
[03:43:00] in fact, an Israeli top military commander just came out and bragged about, I would
[03:43:05] order the strike on the World Central Kitchen aid workers all over again. I have no regrets,
[03:43:09] they're affiliated with Hamas, just to give one example of how brazen and how proud they are of
[03:43:12] the New York Times. I want to hear you. It wasn't that it wasn't hidden. It wasn't it couldn't be
[03:43:20] hidden. The times during that first year, the New York Times, it did everything it could to hide the
[03:43:27] hawkers in Gaza. Well, and you're right, there was a distinction between what the Israelis were
[03:43:33] saying and what their press was saying and the attempt by Western quote unquote liberal media
[03:43:38] outlets to protect. Yeah, because here's the thing. Are you surprised that the race is so close?
[03:43:43] Israeli press does not need to hide the gruesome nature of the genocide in Gaza because the Israeli
[03:43:58] population welcomes that brutality by and large. It's a fact. It's sad, it's horrifying,
[03:44:10] but it is objectively a fact and there's empirical evidence for this fact, right? Whereas the American
[03:44:18] media understands their readership if the American media also went into gruesome detail in the same
[03:44:28] way that Israeli media goes into with the incidents in Gaza, with the actions in Gaza,
[03:44:34] then Americans by and large that read the New York Times would have been horrified from the jump.
[03:44:40] That's it. So that's the reason why Western Press understands its audience and covers the
[03:44:54] issues in much more opaque ways. The Israeli audience is already propagandized. They're
[03:45:06] excited to hear about the atrocities. They take great pleasure in hearing about the
[03:45:18] atrocities, not all Israelis, but to varying degrees most Israelis.
[03:45:25] Anyway, I'll never forget, years into Israel's genocide, the polling that would consistently
[03:45:45] come out about the attitudes of regular Israeli society on the violence that Gaza was being
[03:45:56] subjected to and seeing sometimes 95% of Israeli Jews say that they're not going hard
[03:46:09] enough. Horrifying. The only objections inside of the green line were coming from the Palestinian
[03:46:20] citizens of Israel. You can look it up. You can look it up for yourself if you don't
[03:46:31] believe me. The numbers are
[03:46:35] there. It's insane.
[03:47:01] You just have a very different conception of Israeli citizen for 2023. Like, did you feel like during the March of Return?
[03:47:08] I didn't really think about Israeli citizens. I will be honest with you.
[03:47:15] When I think about Israel as an entity, I think about the occupation. I think about the apartheid, the annexation, if you want to use norms as correct terminology.
[03:47:27] Right? That's what I focus on. I focus on the victims. Illegal annexation, yes.
[03:47:43] So, let's talk about Miloenopolis. Yes, we do know who runs Track APEC. They're awesome.
[03:48:03] Milo Annopoulos has been detained and is slated for deportation. Kanye West executive Milo
[03:48:25] the United Kingdom at the Louis Armstrong-Norlands International Airport in Kenner, Louisiana.
[03:48:51] legally entered the country on May 14, 2019, through New York City, New York.
[03:48:56] He chose to overstay his welcome in violation of our nation's laws.
[03:49:01] The Anopolis was issued a final order of removal by immigration judge on July 22, after failing
[03:49:07] to show up for his immigration hearing.
[03:49:09] He will remain in ICE custody pending removal.
[03:49:13] Being in detention is a choice.
[03:49:15] We encourage all illegal aliens to take control over their departure with the CBP Home app.
[03:49:19] United States is offering illegal aliens $3,000 and a free flight to self-deport now. We encourage
[03:49:25] every person here illegally to take advantage of this offer and reserve the chance to come back
[03:49:29] to the U.S. the right legal way to live the American dream. If not, you will be arrested and
[03:49:33] deported without a chance to return. Now, here's the thing. Milo Annopoulos was a right-wing icon,
[03:49:44] if you guys recall, Joe Rogan elevated him. I think that was the first time where I realized Joe
[03:49:51] Rogan might not be the best guy. For me, I was, that was my like complete separation point.
[03:49:59] With Joseph Robinette Rogan was Miloianopoulos. I was like, why are you talking to this guy?
[03:50:03] He is a Nazi. I remember, I think it was like maybe 2014, 2015, you took your time. No, no,
[03:50:11] the first ever Myloianopolis Joe Rogan experience podcast appearance was like 2015, maybe 2016.
[03:50:25] So, yeah, he defended pedophilia. That's what did a man back in the day when Republicans,
[03:50:47] wow, the past is a different universe, folks. I was just about to say,
[03:50:53] say, Republicans actually canceled him because he was talking about being molested by an
[03:51:00] adult and on the drunken peasant's pockets. Yeah. And at the time, Republicans were horrified
[03:51:15] by it. He was, he was, you know, defending his, his molestation as a child and saying
[03:51:22] it's not that big of a deal, all this sort of stuff. He was a firebrand who flew too
[03:51:30] close to the sun.
[03:51:38] Now of course as a neo-nazi, as a gay neo-nazi of the British variety, Myloianopolis had
[03:51:49] many exposés. They talked about how at Breitbart he was deliberately trying to bring in open
[03:51:55] self-avowed neo-nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists into the fold, giving them
[03:52:02] positive coverage, things of that nature. So, shouts out to Steve Bannon for that, shouts
[03:52:08] out to Andrew Breitbart for that. Great job, guys.
[03:52:14] Well, basically, Milo Annapolis went through numerous transformations, numerous cancellations,
[03:52:21] even I believe at some point worked with Marjorie Taylor Greene. He just found a way to put
[03:52:30] himself out there. Still a right-wing hatchet man. The last iteration of this
[03:52:41] grift was working for Kanye, becoming an ex-gay while still of course living with
[03:52:49] his husband who he then said was his roommate. That's the other thing, his
[03:52:57] husband is black. He is a white nationalist neo-nazi who is gay and has a black husband.
[03:53:06] Or I forget.
[03:53:14] He claimed that he went through a successful gay conversion therapy process.
[03:53:27] and became a Catholic grifter, but in any case, this last iteration of Myloenopolis the
[03:53:42] grift was, I guess, a bridge too far because he frustrated someone who is somehow even
[03:53:53] more psychopathic than he is. Someone who has the ear of the State Department. Her name
[03:54:00] is Laura Loomer. And it seems Laura Loomer's next target is an American citizen. And the
[03:54:09] American mother of an American citizen. Me. What is this? Milo said Loomer came into her
[03:54:21] Her interns room nightly and loudly raped him while he used to believe using power
[03:54:25] and bouses actually exploit people was fake.
[03:54:27] That's actually really what happened in this case because the intern of Brazilian national
[03:54:30] was terrified to say no.
[03:54:32] Yeah, here's what happened by the way.
[03:54:36] Yeah, that was like now Laura Loomer is of course taking credit for it on the timeline.
[03:54:45] Says Loomer.
[03:54:46] My Loonopolis is a nice custody after I exposed illegal alien lifestyle.
[03:54:50] Marjorie Taylor Greene hired Milo to work as her intern where he produced her podcast,
[03:54:53] wrote her books, and lived at her house in Rome, Georgia, before she sold it.
[03:55:02] Laura Loomer all the way back in March, saying why hasn't the Trump administration deported
[03:55:05] Milo?
[03:55:06] He's allegedly living in Los Angeles on an expired visa.
[03:55:09] He's calling for regime change in the US and post-Holocaust denial as an immigrant.
[03:55:12] It's time for him to be deported.
[03:55:14] He didn't campaign for Trump.
[03:55:15] Milo is a foreigner.
[03:55:16] This is of course because Marjorie Taylor Greene and Milo Annopoulos turned on Trump over Israel, and Laura Loomer is obviously Israel first.
[03:55:34] Yeah, Milo Annopoulos crossed Israel. He was always anti-Semitic, by the way. It's not new.
[03:55:42] I mean, he was a fucking open self-avowed neo-Nazi once again, but much like Candace Owens was
[03:55:52] not anti-Israel, was not expressly anti-Israel, okay?
[03:55:59] This is the whole deal.
[03:56:03] This is the entire ordeal.
[03:56:06] Republicans will allow neo-nazis into their ranks, as long as they are pro-Israel or at
[03:56:16] least don't talk against Israel.
[03:56:21] They do not care about anti-Semitism.
[03:56:25] They welcome anti-Semitism.
[03:56:28] They will weaponize anti-Semitism.
[03:56:31] Shapiro has openly admitted this framework on numerous occasions.
[03:56:38] As long as you are not calling into question the Republican cooperation with Israel, the
[03:56:46] American cooperation and allegiance to Israel.
[03:56:54] Is that why the game Mexican neo nazi suddenly is pro Israel?
[03:56:57] I think that could play a role in it. I don't know.
[03:57:03] You're of course referencing Nick Fuentes.
[03:57:05] He's been saying some interesting things about how Muslims are actually the real
[03:57:09] problem in America and how, you know, Israel is bad,
[03:57:13] but also not as bad as Muslims, not as bad as the left.
[03:57:18] And that the left is actually worse, you know, things of that nature.
[03:57:27] even openly admitted
[03:57:34] Shannon was going to do a show with Sex Pestiny
[03:57:38] oh that's awesome
[03:57:42] oh my god, imagine debasing yourself, imagine reducing yourself to this
[03:57:49] oh that's so sick
[03:57:53] It's very cool.
[03:57:58] Mark Ames says, if you follow the time, the tiresome soap opera that is MAGA influencer
[03:58:02] landing might have seen the Loomur Milo spat in which Milo leaked text from Loomur, revealing
[03:58:06] her serious mental instability.
[03:58:07] Loomur has powerful Zionist MAGA sponsors.
[03:58:10] She got her revenge and now wants more MAGA scalps.
[03:58:15] Which is also part of the reason why it's unfathomable to me that there is this much
[03:58:20] conversation about me, from both Democrats and Republicans alike, when Laura Loomer is
[03:58:26] still very much a right-wing operative that is running around and collecting scalps.
[03:58:39] Laura Loomer is at the height of her power, and near a fucking tendon, quote, retweeted
[03:58:45] her islamophobic sentiment directed at me this is the nature of the beast this is the reality of
[03:59:09] of how much these operatives in the Beltway will align with one another and work alongside
[03:59:21] one another, collaborate with one another to take out opposition to Israel, to take
[03:59:30] out opposition to corporate interest broadly.
[03:59:46] Trump propaganda is in right-winger grifter, right-wing grifter Milo and Oppas have been
[03:59:49] detained by ICE previously called for total immunity for ICE in the aftermath of ICE
[03:59:53] brutality and also called for people to be deported on the spot without trials.
[03:59:57] Yeah. I mean, this is, this is a leprosy eating your own face moment.
[04:00:05] For Milo enopolis, he said, heinous things over and over again.
[04:00:09] What is the etiquette?
[04:00:10] If you are going about your business and find yourself observing nice rate,
[04:00:13] I want to show a little respect in this area.
[04:00:15] You're allowed to masturbate where you stand in the street or she just finds
[04:00:17] them kind of awning or motor vehicle.
[04:00:20] He has more quotes on the timeline.
[04:00:29] Total legal immunity for ICE agents when they're on duty.
[04:00:32] If ICE has 90,000 employees and we are all asking for 10,000 deportations a day, that's
[04:00:37] 9 agents per illegal.
[04:00:39] More than enough to cover investigation apprehension and removal.
[04:00:42] What are they all waiting for?
[04:00:50] Just in, the gutter Muslims on X want illegal alien Milo enopolis to be freed.
[04:01:08] Gee, I wonder why were Muslims helping Milo finance his lifestyle in the US as an illegal
[04:01:13] alien?
[04:01:14] He used to be anti-Islam.
[04:01:16] And then he was on the run hiding from immigration authorities.
[04:01:19] started posting in support of Hamas and the Ayatollah. Don't worry, I saved it and gave
[04:01:25] it all to FBI and ICE. Oh God, protect Ayatollah Khomeini. Oh God, we place you before them
[04:01:37] and we seek refuge in you from their evil. So when Milo Annopoulos was doing this exact
[04:01:44] same thing by the way. Yeah, oh yeah, he did this to Laura Loomers telling our mutual friends
[04:01:52] that her intimate relationship with the president led to the best blowjob of his life, his words
[04:01:56] according to Laura.
[04:02:04] Thank God every day I wake up I go to bed making sure I made at least one more person
[04:02:07] hate your death cult ideology. Mehdi Hasan I won't stop till the world hates you and Islam
[04:02:12] InshaAllah, that's what you people like to say, right?
[04:02:20] There is Laura Loomer, celebrating Shannon Watts,
[04:02:26] telling Mehdi Hassan,
[04:02:28] is there anyone on Twitter you haven't called an Islamophobic at this point,
[04:02:31] really loses his meaning?
[04:02:33] I need you guys to understand something.
[04:02:35] When I say Islamophobia has completely gotten out of control,
[04:02:40] where we're in like immediate aftermath of 9-11 levels, I mean it. You have prominent
[04:02:47] liberals who are unafraid to talk like this on the timeline, people who are considered
[04:02:53] progressive activists, and no one is checking them. The permission structure has expanded.
[04:03:00] Okay? It is un-fucking-bearable.
[04:03:06] It is ridiculous.
[04:03:09] And it is getting increasingly worse.
[04:03:12] Part of that is because, and I've said this already,
[04:03:15] the Israeli Foreign Ministry is deliberately tuning up the dial.
[04:03:20] Okay? Whichever sympathetic social media owned by Zionist billionaire
[04:03:25] has as the algorithmic code,
[04:03:29] is following along with this with this ultimate goal of fomenting as much
[04:03:37] Islamophobia as possible and to try and turn criticisms of Israel into a
[04:03:44] Muslim thing. Nik Fuentes is also playing a role in this as well. Nik Fuentes is an
[04:03:50] anti-Semite. Nik Fuentes has been a prominent critic of Israel, right? I mean
[04:03:54] That's his whole thing and he's doing it as well
[04:04:00] That is exactly what's going on
[04:04:17] Getting deported for trolling the president's genocidal fascist fluffer is crazy what part of the burger right is this again?
[04:04:23] it's getting really fucking bad dude. It's getting really, really, really bad.
[04:04:29] And yes, there are a lot of Americans that are also tuned in to this frequency.
[04:04:38] Ken confirmed, my dad is insane about Islam right now. He's all fixated on
[04:04:42] Dearborn and thinking that Islam is going to destroy American culture. He
[04:04:45] brought up how his wife wouldn't wear a hijab like it was being forced. Yeah.
[04:04:53] We are in the throes of collective hysteria. We are in the throes of collective hysteria right now, 100%.
[04:05:04] And because this resentment, whether it be resentment towards anti-Zionists or outright hostility towards Muslims in particular,
[04:05:18] Um, this resentment is shared by so many prominent figures in mainstream outlets as well that they're letting the mask slip.
[04:05:29] The
[04:05:44] The meta is getting out of hand genuinely.
[04:05:46] Muslim Islamic city in America.
[04:05:52] Just remember the videos of the prayers, death to America, death to the Christians and the Jews.
[04:05:57] Destroy them, destroy the Allah. Take them off the service of this earth.
[04:06:01] Some of those videos took place right in here. This is the burial hall of the Islamic center of America.
[04:06:07] I don't know why you're whispering. There's no one there.
[04:06:10] And that video was neither filmed in near-born nor anywhere in the video
[04:06:14] It talks about death to America or death to Christians and Jews. The video is from a mosque in Ontario, Canada
[04:06:20] He's talking about the destruction of oppressive rulers like the Pharaoh the Arabic word for Pharaoh
[04:06:25] And he destroyed the likes of Adam, Thamud and Pharaoh. These are the Pharaohs in the Adam Thamud of today
[04:06:31] Ya Rahma Rahmeen, we ask you, ya Allah, destroy them. Just like how the Bible at many places talks about breaking
[04:06:37] This is somehow like worst and fucking boo boo Bennett dude. It is kind of wild. Like at least back in a day if you're busted, okay?
[04:07:03] If you were a busty white girl you could just like and you didn't want to develop a personality
[04:07:08] You could just be a conservative commentator
[04:07:10] But the conservative commentators wouldn't go to like sig hyal levels of Islamophobia
[04:07:16] They would just do like ah
[04:07:19] Transgenders and our Muslims are bad like they wouldn't just like go to the fucking mosque and Dearborn to be like
[04:07:26] Notice how every single person here wants to explode themselves with a tariff vest on
[04:07:33] in asmr format too?
[04:07:41] what the fuck is happening?
[04:07:43] this crude moronic violent islamophobia that christian-american writers will document if
[04:07:46] of the subtler more insidious islamophobia of the respectable american liberals tapper
[04:07:50] bash biden dams the atlantic is just as responsible for getting us to where we are today.
[04:08:00] Okuratone Tribune.
[04:08:18] That's awesome.
[04:08:29] fire. Who you bargain at Fiona? It's all good. I still like the steamroller the best. There
[04:08:53] There was a whole ass media cycle when you call some Dems Islamophobic at the AAS party.
[04:08:57] Yes.
[04:08:58] Yes.
[04:09:00] That was so fucking insane.
[04:09:03] Isn't that crazy that I correctly called out the Islamophobic sentiment that Democratic
[04:09:11] consultants were leaning into when talking about Abdul Al-Sayed?
[04:09:16] And then they had the audacity to yell at me.
[04:09:20] even allies, even people who I thought would be sympathetic were fucking leaning into it, dude.
[04:09:31] It was incredible.
[04:09:40] Huh, near attendant desperately fighting her urge to retweet Loomer again.
[04:09:50] 20-10, Mike Rogers doing Islamophobia on the radio in Michigan.
[04:09:54] While we're at it, speaking of terrorists, this ripple now around the world, I saw there
[04:09:59] was an incident in India and now in Afghanistan having to do with the potential Koran burning
[04:10:05] in the United States.
[04:10:06] There wasn't one in Florida where we thought there would be, but there was one in East
[04:10:10] Lansing right there at the Islamic Center on Harrison Road, and I understand an incident
[04:10:14] now in Chicago.
[04:10:17] What have you heard about the situations?
[04:10:19] of them is in your district isn't it? It is. Who was it specifically you thought was sympathetic?
[04:10:24] Alex Wagner and Chris Hayes. That was so disappointing.
[04:10:41] Alex Wagner and Chris Hayes running that clip and then being like um what do we do about Hassan?
[04:10:50] What do we do about us on your
[04:10:55] Tennis foam POV while she's tweeting this
[04:11:04] That's a limitation of liberals man, they always had the backstab I mean this is I don't even think it's like a like a backstab moment
[04:11:10] I think it's just there. It's a
[04:11:12] Look man
[04:11:14] Jesus even more piker slop wait what piker slop we're talking about we were we're talking
[04:11:24] about Laura Loomer and Islamophobia.
[04:11:30] Non-freedom.
[04:11:31] We live in America and Christian nation built on biblical values yeah we're called to love
[04:11:36] the Muslims also we're called to keep this out of our nation.
[04:11:40] Don't you imagine the outrage if a Muslim went inside a church and filmed a similar
[04:11:45] video?
[04:11:46] It's funny how you're freely filming in a mosque in the United States in a city that
[04:11:51] also has churches yet accusing Islam of getting in the way of your freedom.
[04:11:56] America was built on European Enlightenment philosophy that emphasized reason, science
[04:12:02] and individualism over tradition, religious dogma and absolute monarchy.
[04:12:07] We're in the Constitution as it mentioned is single. Yeah, these guys are not
[04:12:12] Really with it, you know what I mean like they're not
[04:12:16] Like there are obviously very redeemable aspects and redeemable qualities the liberalism
[04:12:22] That none of these guys give a shit about and it's so ironic that they constantly talk about how like Muslims don't care about any of
[04:12:28] This stuff and it's like no you don't like you're unironically anti-american
[04:12:32] Okay, and goddamn every time I talk about the redeemable elements of America you don't have to immediately go as built on slavery and genocide
[04:12:42] Okay, yes, it's true, but like holy fuck
[04:12:47] Jesus Christ guys, I know
[04:12:49] We know.
[04:12:57] Most of the green treated like they're black at the same time the permission structure
[04:13:00] beyond the media commentary is fully supporting the militant kidnapping of anyone and everyone
[04:13:03] and if you notice Centres are trying to encourage black people to join in on the Islamophobia
[04:13:06] like we aren't also being targeted?
[04:13:08] Yeah.
[04:13:28] No.
[04:13:30] The answer is no. She is not ashamed.
[04:13:33] Shame left their body a long time ago.
[04:13:42] No one is forcing Islam on anyone. I don't understand it. It's called racism.
[04:13:49] It's called being a fucking racist.
[04:13:52] Of course, that's not the case.
[04:13:54] Just like no one is forcing transgenderism on anyone if that's even a thing.
[04:14:00] I don't even know what transgenderism is.
[04:14:03] But, that's what conservatives have invented as an alternative reality, a hypothetical,
[04:14:10] a scary fantasy that they tell themselves at night and then get terrified by.
[04:14:16] Nah, I forced Islam on my buddy Kyle, masha'Allah brother.
[04:14:30] It's just bigotry.
[04:14:31] low IQ nonsense. That's what it is. It's inventing a separate reality and then terrifying yourself
[04:14:39] with this separate reality of your own invention. That is 99% of conservative grievances. They're
[04:14:48] They're fucking made up!
[04:14:54] They're made up!
[04:15:18] Yeah. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know what to do about it either. Like, I don't know.
[04:15:26] I don't know how to deal with it. I don't know how to deal with it because, like, it
[04:15:33] just kind of doesn't matter. Everyone feels this way. So what do you do? Like, how do
[04:15:37] you fucking fight it? Simply calling it races is not gonna work. These guys are like, yeah,
[04:15:43] races. I've never, I've never met a racist person that that has been called a racist who's
[04:15:50] then turned around and been like, oh, shit, my bad. I guess I won't be that way any longer.
[04:16:13] It's called white supremacy? Yeah, no, I know it's white supremacy. I know. I know.
[04:16:26] I fight back against it every day. Yeah, I saw this. I retweeted it earlier. What would
[04:16:40] you do in the situation, condemn his own piker.
[04:17:10] I think greater Muslim solidarity and collaboration might be some fuck these haters.
[04:17:17] I mean, I'm working on it, but I do worry and do worry about where this is going.
[04:17:26] Anyway, so yeah, this psychopath Laura Loomer is now taking credit for it for the Milo,
[04:17:34] the enopolis deportation and I assume that that is what happened. I assume that they
[04:17:43] had the back and forth spat Milo leak text messages from Laura Loomer. Not sure where
[04:17:48] those text messages are. I don't know if you guys have seen them.
[04:17:58] But she's also demanding my deportation, my mom's deportation, absolute psychopath.
[04:18:25] Now of course, there's two points to remember.
[04:18:32] Is it Milo like a massive Nazi?
[04:18:34] Isn't this a funny leprosy at my face moment?
[04:18:36] It is a funny leprosy at my face moment.
[04:18:40] But the problem here is this is Nazi infighting and it's still important to recognize that
[04:18:47] the reason why Milo is getting deported is because he was always a Nazi, but he was never
[04:18:53] anti-israel until like the last couple of years
[04:18:57] he was always an anti-Semite, he was always a nazi, he was a
[04:19:00] charlatan, he was a horrible monster
[04:19:04] he was also very Islamophobic obviously
[04:19:08] and in the last couple of years, he started trolling in the opposite direction
[04:19:14] where he became a neo-nazi who was also anti-Israel
[04:19:18] and now he's getting deported
[04:19:19] Laura Loomer is successfully getting him deported.
[04:19:30] Yeah.
[04:19:32] It's fucking psychotic.
[04:19:36] The entire woke-right, new Milo Annapolis was an illegal alienate, many of them did business
[04:19:40] with him as an illegal and harbored him from authorities. There needs to be an investigation.
[04:19:43] Tucker Candace, Marjorie Taylor Greene, what did they know and when did they know?
[04:19:48] I'll happily speak to the FBI.
[04:19:52] Next up, Trita Parsey.
[04:20:09] Do you think this will divide the base?
[04:20:10] No, I don't think Milo Enopolis has any real fucking Republican fans that remain at this
[04:20:15] point.
[04:20:16] Again, he got canceled many, many, many, many years ago and tried to come back on numerous
[04:20:23] occasions with increasingly diminishing success.
[04:20:46] Anyway.
[04:21:06] Holy shit.
[04:21:08] Mehdi Hassan just dropped a fucking atom bomb on destiny
[04:21:15] Jesus Christ
[04:21:19] We gotta take a look at this this is also the Shannon Watts saga as well
[04:21:29] This is Shannon Watts was literally like I love destiny you should literally react to destiny all the shit, right?
[04:21:36] That's what, that's what she was saying to Mehdi Hassan. Because destiny, I guess, like, uh, said
[04:21:43] you, someone who's proven themselves to be largely clues about Israel, Palestine,
[04:21:46] are confident enough to say, I support genocide in Gaza, but cannot bring yourself to make any
[04:21:50] meaningful statements condemning a man who now you see openly support terrorism against anyone
[04:21:53] in the West. You had him on your show for an interview and chalked all of the support for
[04:21:55] terrorism. The edgy comments is the support for Hezbollah, just as you do, supports Hezbollah's
[04:21:59] existence as a foreign funded, Iranian funded entity in Lebanon, like a Sondaz. You support
[04:22:03] civilian hijackings and terror attacks on civilians from the Houthis like Asan does.
[04:22:06] Would you ask yourself a reported Ansar Allah fighter what his favorite anime is and then
[04:22:10] get along and interview again? Not an Ansar Allah fighter, but even then, of course,
[04:22:15] as an American citizen and a member of the media, I do have a legal right to interview someone from
[04:22:21] the Ansar Allah movement if I chose to do so. And yes, I have said in the past and continue to do so
[04:22:28] within the limited confines of the Ansarullah movement's actions to impede on normal Israeli trade
[04:22:37] in the Red Sea. They were actually following international law in whichever way they possibly
[04:22:44] could. It's no different than partisan groups engaging in acts of sabotage against train
[04:22:49] train tracks against the Nazi occupation in Eastern Europe.
[04:23:19] Was China correct in a takeover to Veta Savage? Like Hassan says, do you support the crackdowns in Hong Kong?
[04:23:24] Do you support them taking back Taiwan? Again, not entirely certain as to what he's talking about here with with my perspective
[04:23:31] I think he's just like trying to get Matthew Hassan to be like you should hate Hassan like I do and then he's just like lying about a bunch of shit
[04:23:41] Was China correct in a takeover?
[04:23:43] Does Russia have a right to own Crimea because most of the people that were ethnically Russian like Hassan says
[04:23:46] This position is not my position. This position is Barack Obama's position. I am in agreement with Barack Obama in terms of
[04:23:55] In terms of not trying to militarily fight a nuclear arm nation like Russia as it annexed Crimea
[04:24:02] although I do hold
[04:24:05] the the Crimea annexation separately
[04:24:09] from the illegal invasion and current occupation of
[04:24:13] of Eastern Ukraine was the murder of two Jews in the U.S.,
[04:24:18] a false flag from Masala Ghassan says, never said that.
[04:24:22] Don't know why he's even claiming that.
[04:24:27] Where did that come from?
[04:24:30] Is that the narrative that I called
[04:24:33] the embassy shootings of false flag?
[04:24:35] Also, literally made that up. Which event is he talking about? It's the, it's the embassy.
[04:24:47] Yeah, I said the opposite. I said it wasn't a false flag.
[04:24:52] You said it wasn't, they clipped it. You saw it at the time. Okay, I forgot. Since you never
[04:24:56] push him on any of these positions or address him in any meaningful way, I'd say it's fair to
[04:24:59] assume blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So then Matthew responds. He says, hi, Destiny, Stephen.
[04:25:04] You do your best impression of Laura Loomer and Randy Fein by choosing me as being just
[04:25:07] another mask on radical Islamist who's been concealing his radical beliefs in an attempt
[04:25:10] to infiltrate Western media and then expect me to respond and debate you, a guy pushing
[04:25:13] far-right Islamophobic smears.
[04:25:14] So this is my one and only response to you, and then you're either muted or blocked.
[04:25:18] 2.
[04:25:19] Your claim that I'm largely clueless about Israel Palestine is laughable, coming from
[04:25:22] a guy who had his ass handed to him.
[04:25:24] On this issue by Norman Finkelstein and Mohan Rabani over the course of a five-hour debate
[04:25:28] where so many of your talking points came from Wikipedia searches.
[04:25:31] I've actually interviewed Israeli Prime Ministers like Ehud al-Murt. You famously didn't even know how to say Ehud Barak's name
[04:25:37] Stay in your lane, Stephen. Three, I'm not a Sompiker spokesman
[04:25:40] But look, I know for an Islamophobe like you, all of us Muslims call the son must believe the same thing
[04:25:45] But if a son wants to defend China or Mao, that's on him. I obviously disagree
[04:25:48] I loathe totalitarianism and killers of all kinds
[04:25:51] I happen to be defending a son on the specific issue of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism
[04:25:54] Where people this past week have been totally misquoting him or quoting him out of context or attacking for things
[04:25:59] Not dissimilar to what Haley Stevens and Ezra Klein have said many of the five second clips of him speaking on long streams
[04:26:04] Are obviously out of context as for all the claims you made about him below
[04:26:07] How am I even supposed to know if they're true you offer no links no evidence just trust me bro
[04:26:12] Oh, and I asked him about some of his most controversial statements when he was on my podcast so stop lying about that
[04:26:16] But either way ask him to defend his views not me. You've been caught on camera telling budding Israeli troops
[04:26:22] Here's one piece of advice. I'll give you okay if you're joining the IDF, okay?
[04:26:27] Leave your fucking cell phone at home and stop taking stupid fucking videos. Okay, because everyone's fucking with you with them
[04:26:34] Okay, if you see a soldier, okay going through a fucking drawer and listen if you want to wear a dress and you think it's funny
[04:26:41] Just don't fucking take a fucking video picture of it. Jesus. I'm sure you'll claim that your advice is really soldiers to cover up
[04:26:48] And hide their war crimes in Gaza is taken out of context. So you surely must see the irony here. I
[04:26:53] I know that I've never advised anyone to commit crimes, but do it off-camera.
[04:26:59] 5. Talking about things that are on or off-camera. One of the reasons I don't engage with you is I hear all sorts of things about you and
[04:27:07] revenge porn and other allegations. No idea if they're true or not, but you sure seem like a dodgy guy.
[04:27:13] So I'd rather keep my distance from you, and I also don't know how you think I must answer your questions at your command.
[04:27:19] This is in a Twitch stream. Like I said, stay in your lane. Oh, and of course any links to YouTuber
[04:27:25] Destiny sued for sharing revenge porn. Oh, and of course you'd also now shown yourself to be a racist
[04:27:30] Lomifold. So another reason for me to not engage further, C point number one. One good thing about
[04:27:35] you viciously and publicly attacking me like this is now I don't have to be weirded out about those
[04:27:39] fawning DMs you sent me last year saying you are my only mainstream media spirit animal right now.
[04:27:45] thank you
[04:27:46] oh
[04:27:48] happy to return to a position of mutual loathing where you loudly and proudly support the killing of palestinian civilians
[04:27:53] and the looting of their clothes off-camera while i remain consistent in opposing the killing of all civilians israeli's palestinian muslims use
[04:28:00] all civilians period
[04:28:02] goodbye
[04:28:08] It's so funny because like while destiny is has created a a
[04:28:12] um
[04:28:13] sophisticated smear operation exclusively directed against myself for the last seven years.
[04:28:21] He, on the other hand, has done a litany of heinous shit, like actual real heinous shit.
[04:28:28] So this retort from Mehdi Hasan doesn't even scratch the surface.
[04:28:33] this. Isn't that insane that this is not even like, this doesn't even get you to fully comprehend
[04:28:46] the mania that is sexpestiny, the cult that he has created, the one-man Gamergate operation
[04:28:57] that they have conducted? And I'm certain that they will, of course, as always, brigade
[04:29:02] this tweet
[04:29:05] the video of de groping years ago
[04:29:06] there's another reason why destiny needs to sound specifically
[04:29:09] it's because he
[04:29:12] thomas were shocked
[04:29:13] was not ready to witness legitimate sexual harassment
[04:29:15] oh my god
[04:29:16] as long as i stop seven times this clip alone
[04:29:17] this was 20 times worse than i thought it could be
[04:29:21] yeah
[04:29:31] yes
[04:29:31] Destiny is a sex pest. He is a disgusting sex pest. And because he knows he's a
[04:29:40] disgusting sex pest, what has the sex pest in the community done, found a way to
[04:29:46] try and claim that I am the same way. Because remember, for these guys, they
[04:29:53] know they're horrible monsters, right? They know that they're horrible monsters.
[04:29:57] So the only thing they can try and do is actively target an enemy of
[04:30:03] Themselves to try and pull them down to the same level
[04:30:07] okay
[04:30:09] He is
[04:30:11] Unbelievably desperate for attention. He knows the walls are closing in he knows that he has lost
[04:30:18] Virtually every fucking ally he possibly could have had
[04:30:22] the only thing that he can lean into is the unfuck America tour and
[04:30:26] random up-and-coming content creators that he will bring into his community as
[04:30:33] he has done so over and over again until he fucks them over because he's a
[04:30:37] gross narcissistic sociopath with no self-control. Okay? He grooms a bunch of
[04:30:45] people, he showers them with praise and admiration and a little bit of crowd-
[04:30:49] clout and he dangles that little bit of cloud in front of them and the moment
[04:30:54] that they actually turn on him, he unleashes a barrage of cyber stalking and smear operations.
[04:31:07] That's it.
[04:31:15] And they are not shy about collaborating with Nazis, collaborating with neo-Nazis, white
[04:31:21] Nationalists, Asmengold, this community that calls themselves liberals have collaborated
[04:31:30] actively with every type of white nationalist in neo-Nazi you could think of. Sam Hyde, Nick Fuentes,
[04:31:37] which Destiny may or may not have even had sexual intercourse with his own admission.
[04:31:43] Okay. What was it? Lauren Southern who destiny openly said he was like revamping her image that random meth head that had the swastika painted on her face. Another another one of sex,
[04:32:02] Pestini's girlfriends. Yeah. So that's why it's like shocking to me that there are at
[04:32:14] least like liberals who care about the Democratic Party care about, you know, making sure Democrats
[04:32:19] get elected who then go and actually cooperate with this person and collaborate with this
[04:32:24] person because of their shared mutual resentment of people to their left. I genuinely don't
[04:32:29] understand it. This person does not have a real world view. He has openly stated that
[04:32:37] he doesn't know whether he would vote for JD Vance or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. He can't
[04:32:45] even hold a consistent position on this. The idea that he is anti-Trump and anti-Maga and
[04:32:54] anti-Elon entirely revolves around whether or not MAGA, Trump, and Elon are coming after me,
[04:33:01] because him and his community will immediately boost an aid in a bet Elon Musk, Donald Trump,
[04:33:07] and MAGA, as long as those three forces are coming after me. They do not care.
[04:33:17] He's not an intelligent person.
[04:33:18] He's a he's a yapper for the most part and he has been able to delude a legion of autistic
[04:33:31] shut-ins to believe he is a god-like figure.
[04:33:35] It is just a fucking cult directed in cyber-stalking and mass-harassment and smear operations not
[04:33:44] Not against ideological opponents necessarily, but simply people who have pissed Destiny
[04:33:51] off made him feel small.
[04:33:59] It blows my mind.
[04:34:02] Yeah, there it is.
[04:34:11] And people like Shannon Watts think that this is a normal person to cooperate with.
[04:34:25] It's insane.
[04:34:31] I
[04:34:43] Tell me they aren't psychotic
[04:34:46] The insultment calls out is on over his rhetoric is on would fucking explode with come at Israel 1111 on what?
[04:34:52] He would not give a fuck about it at all
[04:34:54] He wants many errands possibly a kill these biggest genocide supporter in the world these guys are fucking psychos dude
[04:34:58] They are weirdos. They are gross. Everything they engage in is projection.
[04:35:11] But most people, most people don't know who they are. That's the thing. They benefit from working
[04:35:17] in the shadows for the most part. Anytime the spotlight is turned on destiny, he has been destroyed.
[04:35:25] Okay? It works better for him if he is not well known, because when people find out about what
[04:35:35] his positions are, they literally fucking can't stand him. It's the inverse of the same equation for
[04:35:43] me, because most people's first interaction with me is an unbelievably negatively framed
[04:35:47] clip from a slop tuber that was most likely searching for quotes on the Sex Pest and he
[04:35:53] subreddit. And then they tune into the broadcast, they go, okay, maybe this guy wasn't the this
[04:35:59] psychopath that I thought he was. Most people's first interaction with someone like Sex Pestiny
[04:36:05] is a debate where he's like dunking on one of the dumbest MAGA losers of all time.
[04:36:09] And they go, wow, this guy seems like a reasonable guy. And then they scratch the surface and they
[04:36:14] find out about what he actually is, what he actually represents and what little care he has
[04:36:23] Hold on. What little care he has for the truth, what little care he has for advancing a cause, and how much everything revolves around petty resentment.
[04:36:40] So, yeah.
[04:37:00] It still blows my mind though that there are people like Destiny far right.
[04:37:03] I thought you were better than that Mehdi.
[04:37:07] I can't comprehend whether or not these are people who are just like actively a part
[04:37:13] of his cult and like, fainting ignorance.
[04:37:16] Now defense openly infiltrate asmol's chat and feed him inger links with de-attacking
[04:37:20] you fascist use destiny as a useful idiot to attack you.
[04:37:26] I think destiny uses fascist as a useful idiot to attack me.
[04:37:37] Yeah, all they have is constantly advancing.
[04:37:58] What is their end goal?
[04:38:00] Literally nothing.
[04:38:04] The vision press new poll was the most important issue this year among likely voters is on
[04:38:07] Yeah, anyway, I've never met someone who has gotten in their own way so hard.
[04:38:37] They just keep tripping over their own goddamn dick.
[04:39:02] Where is the, was this, Representative Adelaide Grohova talks to Justin Canill about Hassan
[04:39:23] on the hunt pile on from beholding is an APEC BEM, BEM, uh, leadership.
[04:39:33] Bro, what the fuck is this a song?
[04:39:34] What is this?
[04:39:37] Federal Court, uh, a federal appeals court ruled the first amendment protects
[04:39:41] individuals right to privately possess images or videos of child sexual abuse
[04:39:44] created using after materials does not depict a real person and remains in their
[04:39:46] home.
[04:39:47] What the fuck?
[04:39:53] I have a
[04:39:55] We may yet see the funniest thing ever have a my loon apples in his own words saying he secretly records and saves communications with every public figure comes in contact
[04:40:21] It's a way to blackmail them in the future. I wonder what kind of blackmail Milo is playing. They eventually use against you a kind of
[04:40:30] This is called the vault
[04:40:32] This is the vault this way
[04:40:35] Isn't this like a this is like a like a
[04:40:39] This is a neo-nazi of
[04:40:42] Old neo-nazi podcast isn't it kill stream?
[04:40:45] As shit on everyone you have ever heard of, video, pictures, emails, audio, text messages,
[04:40:56] phone calls, anything you would ever really want to know about every public figure I have ever
[04:41:00] encountered. Most of the conversations I've had with people when I've been a single-party
[04:41:03] consent state, recorded, archived, I have shit on everyone and I'm now in a position in my career
[04:41:08] where I'm perfectly happy to start dropping it off. So I have a lot of crap on Richard Spencer
[04:41:13] and everybody else. And maybe there's a reason to sign up for Telegram Offerall. So watch
[04:41:21] the space. Yeah. Yeah, that's my
[04:41:42] inample is baby a complete and utter psychopath
[04:41:57] what is this I'll do I'll say it talks about some piker Friday every with MSNAM
[04:42:02] have Jewish voters in Michigan I'll say Dana Nessel is one of them who are
[04:42:08] worried about your association with Hassan piker why why keep them so close
[04:42:11] or why not fully disassociate yourself with him, but especially when Michigan is so tight,
[04:42:17] Alissa Smokin only won by 22,000 votes. So let me speak to a couple points here. Number one,
[04:42:23] I endorsed the vice president on the day after she became the nominee. I did not agree with the
[04:42:30] administration's position on Gaza, but I understood that Donald Trump would be worse. So I am calling
[04:42:35] on leaders from all of the communities under the Democratic umbrella to recognize that Mike
[04:42:39] Mike, Tony, two cuts, wife, two double, double snip Tony's wife, Katie,
[04:42:43] terror, Tony DeCoppel's wife, Katie, terror, Rogers is an existential threat to
[04:42:50] everything we believe in when it comes to our democracy.
[04:42:53] Number two, this campaign is not about a streamer in California.
[04:42:57] This campaign is about affordability in Michigan.
[04:42:59] This campaign is about the ability to have healthcare.
[04:43:02] It does campaign to a lot of Democrats.
[04:43:03] So he's not just this campaign is about the challenges.
[04:43:07] Michiganders face and I get that in the media it's a lot easier to pick up one
[04:43:11] person and be like this is what this is about but this is why a lot of people get
[04:43:14] so frustrated about politics and political media because it doesn't
[04:43:18] actually speak to the challenges they face look it's not just the media and I
[04:43:22] reject that framing it's six and ten Americans don't know who he is I'm not
[04:43:25] saying he's the most important person in the world but when you have a state like
[04:43:28] Michigan where again a little socket only one by 22,000 votes but Katie is it worth
[04:43:33] Ten in ten americans.
[04:43:35] Ten in ten americans.
[04:43:37] Ten in ten americans.
[04:43:39] Like, what an insane- dude, dude, dude.
[04:43:45] Dude.
[04:43:47] I'm losing my fucking mind.
[04:43:49] First of all,
[04:43:51] Katie Tur.
[04:43:53] I'm a media person.
[04:43:55] Okay?
[04:43:57] I'm a motherfucking media person.
[04:43:59] You can ask me directly
[04:44:01] my takes are on a number of different issues, okay? MSNOW. I'm saying it one more time.
[04:44:09] You can ask me directly what my thoughts are on a million different issues. I give quotes
[04:44:14] to Washington Post all the time. I give an interview today, Weigel earlier today for
[04:44:21] SEMA4. You can ask me contentious questions. You can be the journalist that takes me out,
[04:44:28] Okay, isn't that exciting?
[04:44:32] I've been interviewed by MS now in the past.
[04:44:37] Okay, I know some of the top anchors on the network and many of the former top anchors on the network.
[04:44:50] The idea that you are going to advance this narrative that I'm like some vicious fucking
[04:44:55] anti-Semite, and then Badger Abdul with it is ridiculous, okay?
[04:45:03] The reason why he is changing the framing here back to issues that matter is because
[04:45:13] he doesn't want to get into a fucking clip show where the entire conversation turns
[04:45:17] to Abdul defends, you know, Hasan's statement here.
[04:45:21] He doesn't know the context of this one and blah, blah, blah.
[04:45:25] it. And these guys know they want to turn it up. They want him to say, Hasan is not an anti-Semite,
[04:45:31] so they can immediately throw the clip show and be like, all right, what about this statement?
[04:45:35] All right, what about that statement? All right, what about this statement?
[04:45:38] That is literally what they're trying to do. So of course, of course, not going to
[04:45:42] fucking play by those games, play by those rules is not going to play that game.
[04:45:45] read that they can't afford things that they need in their life so if folks want to make
[04:45:59] this about a streamer in California they're welcome to do that but I'm focused on Donald
[04:46:04] Trump I'm focused on addressing the affordability crisis I'm a focus on getting you healthcare
[04:46:09] and that's one of the state focus let's talk about it
[04:46:15] it's so insane to me that you have a uh... a person
[04:46:19] who won the primaries
[04:46:21] for a senate race
[04:46:22] the senate is a very important seat is that is the upward chamber right
[04:46:27] there's only a hundred of them
[04:46:29] and he's like please can we talk about the issues man and they're like no you
[04:46:32] need to talk about this which rumor
[04:46:34] And people will say, oh, you're deflecting, oh, you're deflecting, oh, you're, you're doing that
[04:46:39] because you're fucking deflecting because you're running away because you're scared because you did something wrong. Like they're trying to
[04:46:47] Incept this idea
[04:46:51] That he is
[04:46:52] somehow ashamed
[04:46:55] That the the image that they are trying to craft of me is correct
[04:47:00] And he is ashamed of his allegiance and cooperation with a person who is a dangerous radical
[04:47:08] terrorist Jew hater, right?
[04:47:13] Because here's the reality.
[04:47:14] If I was actually what the media presents me as, it would be outright unacceptable
[04:47:20] for anyone to campaign with me.
[04:47:24] If it's a real damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, because you don't want
[04:47:30] to get into the clip show.
[04:47:32] You don't want to know the context, or even if you do know the context of every single
[04:47:37] quote, you don't want to find yourself consistently defending a barrage of statements that I've
[04:47:42] made, some of which are out of context, some of which are in context, but also unbelievably
[04:47:48] crass, unbelievably vulgar. That's the whole point.
[04:47:55] So I think a really good way to maybe start framing some of these talking points, and this is
[04:48:04] different from if you're a media figure. If you're a media figure and you know me and you know the
[04:48:08] context of my, of some of these like choice quotes that they use all the time, you can be like, look,
[04:48:14] I know this guy, he's not an anti-Semite, there's hours and hours and hours of footage out there of him
[04:48:20] combating anti-Semitism. You guys are just saying this because he's against Israel
[04:48:25] and sucks to suck, but like that's the overwhelming majority of Americans, right?
[04:48:30] You could just say that. You can entertain the clip show if you want.
[04:48:35] But if you're a politician running a campaign in a very tight, very narrow window, you got 66 days
[04:48:42] to get your point across to put your best foot forward, right?
[04:48:48] The best possible thing you can do is this. So much of corporate media is dropping the ball
[04:48:56] by hyper-focusing on this feeding frenzy of a media personality who is anti-Israel.
[04:49:06] This is exactly the reason why people are losing faith in corporate media. This is exactly the
[04:49:12] reason why people are losing faith in establishment media, we understand the importance of the Fourth
[04:49:19] Estate. We want corporate media and mainstream media to do the right thing, to focus on issues
[04:49:29] that matter instead of generating clicks, instead of generating headlines, instead of
[04:49:36] focusing on a streamer from California who happens to sometimes be vulgar but
[04:49:43] ultimately is very progressive and is a progressive force in this country and
[04:49:49] that's precisely the reason why I you know I entertained his audience or
[04:49:53] campaign with him
[04:49:56] But we need more good journalism.
[04:50:05] I wake up every morning, I'm still in the campaign mode, right?
[04:50:09] I wake up every morning and ask myself, how can I make Michigander's lives better today?
[04:50:18] I wish a credentialed reporter such as yourself would wake up and ask a similar question.
[04:50:28] Are the stories that I'm going to cover today important for the public to know about?
[04:50:35] Or am I simply leaning into hysteria, simply leaning into manufactured outrage concocted
[04:50:42] by Republicans.
[04:50:49] Democrats have a plan for health care, but before they unveil it, Abdul Al Sayed must
[04:50:53] condemn Hassan Piker.
[04:51:04] Well there are many lawmakers and voters who are concerned, is what she said, and it's
[04:51:08] bullshit.
[04:51:09] No, they're not.
[04:51:10] The answer to that is simple.
[04:51:14] I have to also say, I can say, look,
[04:51:16] I've been up and down the state in the primaries
[04:51:19] and continue to trek every mile of this beautiful state
[04:51:24] known as Michigan.
[04:51:26] And you know what people never ask me?
[04:51:28] Hassan Piker.
[04:51:30] You know what people ask me about all the time?
[04:51:32] How am I going to pay for health care?
[04:51:34] How am I going to pay for gas?
[04:51:36] So, no.
[04:51:38] I think there are a couple legislators that have made up their minds on making sure that
[04:51:46] this is driving a wedge between the base of support within the Democratic Party, but it's
[04:51:51] not working.
[04:51:53] And I think we should move on to things that are more important, more consequential, so
[04:51:58] that we can restore a little bit of faith in American politics and a little bit of faith
[04:52:03] in American media.
[04:52:05] Okay?
[04:52:07] There you go. That's it. Because like, we're fucking up. We're fucking everything up right
[04:52:16] now. And we don't have a lot of time. We don't have a lot of time to defend American democracy.
[04:52:22] We don't have a lot of time to create sufficient, create a sufficient mechanism of accountability
[04:52:30] against Trumpism in this country. And you're over here playing a role of someone who doesn't
[04:52:39] care about things that people actually care about. And corporate media is so out of touch,
[04:52:46] so bubbled in. Another thing that fuels anti-Semitism and fellow Jews say that they're interested
[04:52:51] in Israel, Trump's freedom at home, healthcare wages, jobs, immigrants who are productive
[04:52:55] freedom and free speech. Yeah, like, but data nestle is, is crazy. She's saying crazy shit.
[04:53:01] Data nestle if I like, can you imagine dude is being like, listen, uh, like I care about
[04:53:08] Saudi Arabia. I'm a Muslim. That's where Mecca is. That's where Medina is. And unless Saudi
[04:53:15] Arabia gets a nuke, I'm not voting for the fucking Democrats. And as a matter of fact,
[04:53:20] as a lifelong Democrat, I might vote for the Republicans because Trump wants to give Saudi
[04:53:23] Saudi Arabia nuke. Saudi Arabia has a right to defend itself. It's in a bad neighborhood.
[04:53:28] And the most sufficient line of defense is nuclear armaments. So sorry. You know, insert
[04:53:38] candidate A doesn't want to give Saudi Arabia nuke. So I think I'm going to go with the
[04:53:43] Republicans. If I were to run around and say that as a Muslim man, you know, Saudi Arabia
[04:53:50] is an ally, what would fucking, what would CNN say about that? What would the entirety
[04:53:57] of liberal mainstream media say about that? They would be like, this guy's fucking insane.
[04:54:03] I said this over and over again, that, you know, when, when a black person says that
[04:54:09] phrase that you're using, and the way you're talking about this issue to me is racist.
[04:54:13] I'd like you to stop doing it. We respect that. When somebody, you know,
[04:54:17] Yeah, I somehow don't believe that, by the way.
[04:54:20] I don't believe that you respect that.
[04:54:22] When we're talking to somebody in the LGBTQ community and say,
[04:54:24] I don't like the phrase that you're using or that term is offensive to me,
[04:54:28] and here's why.
[04:54:29] We respect that in the Democratic Party.
[04:54:32] We say, okay, I'm not going to use that phrase anymore.
[04:54:34] I didn't realize that it was offensive to you, I'm going to stop.
[04:54:37] But this has been an outlier for me.
[04:54:39] I have people saying,
[04:54:41] you are not going to tell us what you deemed to be anti-Semitic.
[04:54:45] will decide what's anti-Semitic.
[04:54:48] That's not up for you, the Jewish population, to decide.
[04:54:51] And I find that to be very off-putting and offensive.
[04:54:54] And, you know, I think that's totally unacceptable.
[04:55:00] But the last thing I will say is this,
[04:55:02] if that's the deal that has to be made,
[04:55:05] and I've been really candid-
[04:55:06] It's just like, again, 75% support for the Democratic Party.
[04:55:13] Let's say it drops to 60, okay?
[04:55:17] That's still damn near,
[04:55:19] that's still the super majority support
[04:55:21] for the Democratic Party, okay?
[04:55:24] And for what reason?
[04:55:28] Because the base of the Democratic Party
[04:55:30] doesn't fuck with your emotional support apartheid state.
[04:55:34] Like it's so ridiculous.
[04:55:38] This is where I get unbelievably frustrated
[04:55:41] with standpoint epistemology, like, you're doing a bodies and spaces, this is woke 1,
[04:55:47] this is woke 1.0 shit, okay, this is what I hated about woke 1.0, the idea that like,
[04:55:54] um, your lived experience, trumps, observable reality and our anger and resentment over what
[04:56:02] we have seen.
[04:56:04] What the fuck in world am I living in, read this headline, at FBI Hiram Prasad's ceiling
[04:56:09] from your employer engaging in acts of bishality are no longer an automatic barrier to getting
[04:56:13] hired? Jesus Christ.
[04:56:14] Good about this. I was Jewish before I was ever Michigan Attorney General. I'm going
[04:56:31] to be Jewish afterwards. I was Jewish before I was ever a member of the Democratic Party.
[04:56:38] And if I have to, I'll be Jewish afterwards too.
[04:56:40] Attorney General Nestle, thank you so much for joining me today.
[04:56:46] This was always actually the end goal of Woke One, to hijack the struggle for black liberation
[04:56:50] and focus on liberal Zionism.
[04:56:52] I saw this shit going down in college in 2011 to 2015.
[04:56:54] You're seven for interviews out too.
[04:56:59] Hasan Piker, thanks for talking to me.
[04:57:02] Damn.
[04:57:03] Hasan Piker, thanks for talking to me.
[04:57:04] 56 minutes, bro.
[04:57:05] I was so...
[04:57:06] This is so early.
[04:57:08] Wow, look at the first comment.
[04:57:12] I was daily bullworked at multiple podcast YouTube videos a day, basically every day,
[04:57:15] but Trump 2.0 has been incredibly revealing.
[04:57:17] I'm now squarely a DSA Dem.
[04:57:19] It was a long row of some memorable points, long way.
[04:57:21] Chuck Schumer seemingly more excited the prospect of fighting around than Trump.
[04:57:24] Israel's grotesque disproportionate response.
[04:57:27] War crimes, genocide, and Gaza, the Democratic Party's leadership treatment among Donny.
[04:57:30] Sarah Longwell's rants against the Sampyger in the increasingly obsessive dishonest and
[04:57:33] almost stalker-like manner in which the party and much of the political media have lied
[04:57:37] about and disparages on in particular in the DSA in general.
[04:57:41] If there's one common thread in my own come-to-geese experience and the evolution of other people
[04:57:44] close to me who have moved in the same direction is becoming aware of the wildly disproportionate
[04:57:48] influence that the state of Israel has over American politics and foreign policy, what
[04:57:52] has been so stunning is the epiphany that this may not be something that's changed.
[04:57:56] It may have been there all along and I simply could not see it, so Trump 2.0 has been enlightening
[04:58:00] to say the least.
[04:58:01] i say this as a guy
[04:58:03] who was voted
[04:58:05] democratic in every presidential elections the first one
[04:58:08] uh... i was old enough to vote in bill clinton's first term
[04:58:10] i did not start out looking to move left quite the opposite i got here by
[04:58:14] watching the democratic establishment actually watching what the democratic
[04:58:17] establishment actually did
[04:58:18] what it defended and what it refused to confront and how it treated continues to
[04:58:21] treat people who did
[04:58:23] all my god that's awesome
[04:58:31] My job is to obviously say the truth unconditionally, no matter the cost.
[04:58:40] However, I also understand that there are people like that who could have just as easily fallen by the wayside become like Nick Fuentes fans, you know what I mean?
[04:58:54] So I ask over and over again, which way Western man, if anti-Israel sentiment is an inevitability,
[04:59:11] do you want it to look like my worldview that focuses on critiques of Israel as an entity,
[04:59:19] an institution given its metric ton of crimes? Or do you want it to be an anti-Semitic critique
[04:59:29] that has very little to do with Israel beyond being able to use the dislike of Israel to then
[04:59:40] turn into pariahs the entirety of the Western Jewry?
[04:59:49] Because that is the goal of anti-Semites.
[04:59:57] The goal of anti-Semites is the continuation of the current atrocities, the continuation
[05:00:05] of the current hierarchy that frustrates people, that causes them to struggle endlessly, that
[05:00:12] makes them angry, to take all of that anger and animosity, and to not redirect it back
[05:00:18] to the systems, not redirected back to capitalism, but instead to redirect it back to a group
[05:00:24] of shadowy individuals that are operating in a monolithic manner to dominate society.
[05:00:29] And that shadowy group of individuals historically has always been falsely considered to be Jewish.
[05:00:36] Okay?
[05:00:37] That's it.
[05:00:48] You have most liberals in the country who are so pissed at Hassan Piker of all people.
[05:00:57] Cause that's what's important right now.
[05:01:00] But do you disavow Hassan?
[05:01:02] No, actually I don't.
[05:01:04] Because he's been able to convince a lot of people to be anti-Catholists.
[05:01:09] So no, I'm sorry, I don't disavow that.
[05:01:11] I'll never disavow that.
[05:01:12] I'm not gonna sit up here and do like, oh I don't agree with everything he says.
[05:01:16] No, fuck it.
[05:01:17] Fuck it.
[05:01:18] Fuck you if this is the thing that I should be pissed about
[05:01:20] Fuck you if this is what I should give a fuck about
[05:01:24] Europe said Hassan said the US deserved 9-11. That's what you're upset about the United States
[05:01:29] That has been like one of the largest fucking imperialist powers ever who's destroyed other countries
[05:01:35] You want me to make you want me to be mad at Hassan fuck off. I didn't know the guy and I'm not gonna be fucking
[05:01:41] I'm not gonna fucking be up here like no fuck you
[05:01:44] How about be mad that the United States ran a fucking secret prison where 95% of the people that they fucking tortured were innocent?
[05:01:51] Maybe that's what I should be fucking angry at. Maybe I should be angry at the 150 fucking schoolgirls that we double-tapped. Fuck you.
[05:01:57] No, I can't stand.
[05:01:59] Condemn who's on?
[05:01:59] How about instead I condemn the fact that kids have to watch their parents destroy their bodies in
[05:02:05] order to be able to afford the bare necessities?
[05:02:08] But you want me to be mad that a streamer said shit? Fuck off!
[05:02:14] Suck my fucking balls.
[05:02:18] No, I'm not doing that.
[05:02:20] Every single person who comes up here condemns left-wing violence. Fuck you!
[05:02:26] Condemn the fact that people can't afford to live. You want to talk about violence?
[05:02:31] You want to look me in the eyes and tell me B.L.M. rights are so violent while ignoring what actual political violence is?
[05:02:38] You want to look me in the eye and tell me the attack on trans people is not political
[05:02:43] violence?
[05:02:46] You want to look me in the eye and tell me that the fucking ice, the ramping up of ice
[05:02:50] is not direct political violence?
[05:02:51] You want to look me in my fucking face and tell me it's not political violence when
[05:02:56] we cut snap benefits?
[05:02:59] Fuck you.
[05:03:00] I'm not doing this shit.
[05:03:04] Hell yeah.
[05:03:06] noted. Um, it seems that, uh, destiny has found his cult has identified two new, uh,
[05:03:17] victims. Magdy Jacobs and Shannon Watts. Um, look, I know that no matter what I say, they
[05:03:25] will never listen to me because they fucking despise me, but, um, there are a lot of red
[05:03:34] flags here, I hope for your own safety and your own mental sanity, you stay away, especially
[05:03:42] considering that the person that you are aligning yourself with is, you know, you might hate
[05:03:50] me and that's fine, you can hate me all day every day.
[05:03:54] But the person you're aligning yourself with is currently actively in court being sued
[05:03:58] by his victims.
[05:04:04] or distribution, unconcerned distribution of revenge pornography in exchange for child sexual abuse material.
[05:04:15] You're my go, I know you're a big boy and all that, don't need hug box, but I kinda can't help but hate how they do you, it's all good.
[05:04:28] Because there will come a time here. I'll make you one promise if you are a new orbiter
[05:04:39] There is always we've seen the same song and dance so many times over
[05:04:44] You come in his community hugs you they love bomb you okay
[05:04:51] They make you feel great your impressions go up they brigade your enemies at your behest you feel
[05:04:58] like you're winning, but there is going to come a time when he's going to want you to do something
[05:05:05] that you don't want to do, or you are going to have a minor disagreement, and he's going to
[05:05:15] explode on you in that exact community that you have now relied on to feel a sense of belonging
[05:05:28] will then turn on you and rip you apart, will cyber-stock you relentlessly for almost a decade,
[05:05:37] in the way that they have done to me.
[05:05:41] The easiest way to get out of this cult is to never enter it.
[05:05:47] That is the warning that I deliver to you, Magdy Jacobs.
[05:05:52] I know you think I don't care about you. I know you think I I want you to
[05:05:57] I don't know
[05:06:00] You probably assume that I want what's worse for you, so you will do the opposite of my warning, but
[05:06:08] This has happened
[05:06:10] More than 30 times
[05:06:13] At some point you have to identify
[05:06:17] At some point you have to identify
[05:06:19] identify that the problem is this one singular individual, because it is, yeah.
[05:06:28] Pisco Liddy is another one, is another example, this is another one of the cultists.
[05:06:32] Liars.
[05:06:33] So who was, so who was doing that to you, like somebody, because you did apologize for
[05:06:37] that, so who, what, what the fuck is happening with that?
[05:06:40] Yeah, no, so a bunch of people including Destiny lied to me about me, and yeah, so that's the
[05:06:46] I will never interact with him again.
[05:06:49] Really?
[05:06:50] Yes.
[05:06:50] That's correct.
[05:06:50] So that's any lie about you.
[05:06:51] Yeah.
[05:06:52] But listen, I'm not going to linger on it.
[05:06:54] You brought it up, but that's the answer.
[05:06:56] Okay.
[05:06:56] I think, I think it's positive.
[05:06:57] I think maybe I don't know enough from the clips that I'm seeing.
[05:07:01] I,
[05:07:02] on it, he says, I used to be in here arguing with you about trans people in
[05:07:05] sports as a former 4chan chud.
[05:07:07] And now I'm shilling my local DSA and injecting estrogen.
[05:07:09] You do good work twin, unironically save lives.
[05:07:11] Don't let them bring you down.
[05:07:13] It see that you apologize and you move, you move forward.
[05:07:15] I think maybe you should have a conversation with him.
[05:07:18] No, I don't think that.
[05:07:19] No, it's malice.
[05:07:20] It's malice.
[05:07:21] It's a purposeful, knowing line.
[05:07:23] And he will never accept it as such.
[05:07:25] And I would never accept anything less than an acknowledgment
[05:07:28] that it was a purposeful, malicious lie.
[05:07:30] And I have no interest, really, in interacting
[05:07:32] with such people.
[05:07:33] And so just to make everything clear,
[05:07:35] I will never be interacting with him again.
[05:07:38] Such liars.
[05:07:45] Anyway.
[05:08:02] Who's this lady I have no idea.
[05:08:04] I'm sure it's the extended destiny verse somehow.
[05:08:09] This is what gives them life, what is this?
[05:08:12] 10 is number one fan hutch is not happy that Tim Miller has near the tweet less about Hassan
[05:08:16] lot of attacking yeah i mean this is this bald one on the corner is like another one of those
[05:08:21] orbiters who like is terrified of of you know getting caught on the wrong side of the cult
[05:08:28] but is uh you know firmly committed to the cause
[05:08:34] the left right now from you on the twitter account like i'm telling you they singularly they legitimately
[05:08:40] that this, this media environment that we're in currently,
[05:08:44] the reason why it's not breaking my spirit all that much
[05:08:49] is because I'm used to it.
[05:08:51] I'm used to it for the past decade, right?
[05:08:53] I'm used to it for the fucking past decade.
[05:08:56] These guys are psychotic.
[05:08:58] They've been doing this over and over again.
[05:08:59] All of those smears that you see on the timeline, at some point,
[05:09:02] materialized from this one tiny community, tiny, but very dedicated.
[05:09:07] And it operates like a cult.
[05:09:10] And, and it's just been my life. It sucks, but I got used to it a long time ago, which is why it like prepared me for this moment in mainstream media.
[05:09:21] Because the mainstream outlets are not, uh, nearly as sophisticated. It's actually pretty insane. The range of says, if a Zaya rage migrated from lunatic, Pakistan, either even climbed it out entire liberal media.
[05:09:31] And political class, all because the Zaytis is real lobby that owns them wants to turn them into a litmus test for any anti-Israel sentiment.
[05:09:37] Yeah, I mean it originated from Destiny and then moved on to Ethan Klein and now it's fucking Katie Turb apparently, you know what I mean?
[05:09:47] It's pretty crazy. But my point is they basically infiltrate every community they can and they're singularly invested in just like using every larger community as a sleeve basically.
[05:10:03] But right now what's going on in major media is being viewed correctly as a proxy debate for Israel, which is why I am not so frustrated.
[05:10:15] Not when we have a big challenge.
[05:10:23] Is Tim going to break my heart?
[05:10:28] Tim! Tim! No!
[05:10:34] Why? Why?
[05:10:38] The asymmetry here is absurd!
[05:10:41] You sure do spend a lot of time punching left
[05:10:45] in a conversation about Hassan Piker?
[05:10:49] Am I going insane?
[05:10:55] Yes.
[05:10:59] Yes.
[05:11:03] Not going insane. You are insane.
[05:11:05] And also very stupid. Like remarkably dumb.
[05:11:12] It's- we're talking about us.
[05:11:14] Like these guys live in this insane alternate universe
[05:11:18] where they sincerely,
[05:11:21] genuinely think the number one priority should be
[05:11:25] yelling about the left flank and yelling about me in particular.
[05:11:30] He exists in a reality where you can be on national TV and also everyone hates you as much as he does.
[05:11:35] Yeah, it's very sad.
[05:11:38] I saw one of his orbiters like literally complaining, can people stop fighting MAGA and start fighting the left?
[05:11:47] They are far more problematic.
[05:11:50] one of these guys orbiters unironically posted that destiny himself also said
[05:11:57] maga is no longer relevant like that's their pivot their pivot is they went
[05:12:03] from Hasan is in service of maga because he didn't sufficiently endorse
[05:12:07] Kamala Harris to maga is actually not that relevant at all we should just be
[05:12:11] trying to attack the DSA Doug they're in charge of everything what the fuck are
[05:12:17] talking about you're insane I simply do not care you think punchy left is bad
[05:12:29] it's a made-up rule nobody cares I punch left to people who I think are
[05:12:32] helping Republicans women because I value probably losing elections over
[05:12:35] everything yeah no no they don't they literally do not yeah this is it maga is
[05:12:45] not relevant now. The fight against them was in 2024 and we lost. People who sweep for socialists
[05:12:50] are either discussing anti-democracy haters or idiots. Is stupid fear monger over MAGA right now
[05:12:54] to sweep for socialists. MAGA is obviously extremely relevant right now as they're currently in power
[05:13:00] and Democrats are trying to win back Congress from them. MAGA, the modern American fascist movement
[05:13:06] is worse than the left, and I'm glad to see you agree.
[05:13:23] Guys, guys.
[05:13:27] Do you want to finish the day with there's more depravity?
[05:13:30] Yes, two weeks.
[05:13:31] Yes, I do.
[05:13:32] It was hot.
[05:13:33] I can't.
[05:13:33] Yes, I will we're getting back to the bucket. We're getting back to the Dave vid
[05:13:45] Head start on putting together a packet for the FBI but no dice
[05:13:49] So essentially Rose was an Illinois minor being trafficked by solo who coerced her into making sea sam for destiny and then leaked
[05:13:56] Everyone's explicit videos when he refused to speak to him now another problem is that destiny held on to the sea sam
[05:14:02] Why do you have a question?
[05:14:04] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did yeah
[05:14:10] You did yes, I did like Shannon Watts
[05:14:14] Should be forced to address her newfound allegiance and Maggie Jacobs to but definitely Shannon was Maggie Jacobs is irrelevant
[05:14:22] Should be and and near attended and all of these other like liberals should absolutely be asked about this
[05:14:29] Like this is readily available information. It's a matter of public record. It's in it's literally court proceedings in the state of Florida
[05:14:37] Like what are you doing? You're out. You're out here saying like I'm a misogynist
[05:14:42] This is the person that you're aligning with
[05:14:46] And here's the best part about it
[05:14:49] You want to know some it's not consequential for any elections
[05:14:55] When you
[05:14:57] actively use attacks on me to attack Abdel El Sayed. That's consequential for the Democratic Senate majority.
[05:15:04] So two can play that game. You are nothing. You are irrelevant. And destiny is even less relevant.
[05:15:14] So you can't even turn around and be like, well, you know, this is a,
[05:15:17] this is a vector for a factional fight that's going to threaten the Senate majority. You can't
[05:15:22] even say that you're just a random person on the internet who is very clearly heavily influenced by
[05:15:33] I guess maybe some big donors that donated to your foundation initially I don't know what it is
[05:15:43] yep that way that's amazing did you have the did you have cons audio recorded or do you have
[05:15:47] have consent to audio record all the gay men that you had sex with?
[05:15:50] There was one. Yes, I did. Now what?
[05:15:53] Oh, okay. Do you think it's prudent to send all of your homemade pornography to somebody
[05:15:57] you've known for two weeks? Yes, I do. It was hot. I come.
[05:16:02] How long did you hold on to the pornography of a 17-year-old?
[05:16:07] As soon as it was obviously no longer required to have done the thing, I'm not going to answer
[05:16:12] questions about my current court case, Connor, when every two days there's a new motion
[05:16:16] I'm engaging with a suicidal man right now, so I don't know, you tell me Conor, so, wow, but now the-
[05:16:24] Solo's identity has been public since January 2026, yet Destiny still hasn't given info to the authorities or filed a civil suit.
[05:16:32] He faced a sanctions hearing for spoliation on August 19th.
[05:16:35] He's accused of withholding his DMs with a trafficker from Discovery, only to leak them to his YouTube audience after Discovery closed.
[05:16:43] Good thing the plaintiff's lawyer was watching the stream for that, huh?
[05:16:46] So we had to delete some videos or pictures he received from the Rose account,
[05:16:50] but he's not able to admit he deleted them because it would potentially be responsive
[05:16:53] to his discovery on a civil case. He also deleted five years' worth of explicit videos on Google
[05:16:58] Drive and all the attachments to all the conversations with Rose, Solo, Abbey MC, and so forth.
[05:17:04] Destiny claims he archived them all just in case.
[05:17:06] Oh, I wanted to say one last thing about Milo Annapolis. Never forget that
[05:17:10] that during Kayagate, when it first started,
[05:17:14] shouts out to Sexpest and his community for that one as well.
[05:17:18] Myloianopolis, I don't know who informed him of this,
[05:17:22] by the way, knew of Myohiga.
[05:17:28] Myloianopolis knew that I had a friend,
[05:17:31] her name was Myohiga, and operates in animal sanctuary.
[05:17:36] Myloianopolis doxxed the animal sanctuary
[05:17:39] and said that if Myahiga comes out to defend Hassan Piker that he will do everything in
[05:17:46] his power to strip Alveius of its 501 C3 status.
[05:17:55] Silencing friends of mine through intimidation.
[05:18:04] So yeah, now my Myloianopolis is being deported.
[05:18:13] Think about how much of a fucking monster you are,
[05:18:17] that you are dialed in to a smear campaign to that degree
[05:18:23] that you're thinking like two steps ahead.
[05:18:25] You're like, oh, this person who's like famous
[05:18:27] in the animal conservation space has been around,
[05:18:30] might come out and say something that that could ruin what we are trying to generate.
[05:18:37] Yeah, University of Washington approved of my loyanopolis to speak on campus
[05:18:50] at the peak of campus cancel culture mania. Republicans protected him.
[05:18:55] him. I was not allowed to speak at University of Washington. So talk to me about the double
[05:19:04] standard. Here's my Louisianopolis, one of his last tweets, mentioning me. Can anyone
[05:19:14] explain why Nick Plens' and Laura Loomer are tweeting the same exact talking points? If
[05:19:17] Trump wants to win us back, putting us on piker in prison forever would be a good start.
[05:19:20] President Trump can unite the entire country by having us on piker arrested. It's his
[05:19:24] I wonder who else also felt that way, the sex pest that we are covering right now.
[05:19:35] Milo in office says there's no conspiracy, jailing us on would be one of the most universally
[05:19:42] popular things Trump has ever done or will ever do. Unfortunately, that means it would also have
[05:19:47] to please both of these ghouls.
[05:20:08] So while I worry about the insane precedent this sets, or not even just like political
[05:20:16] dissidents or whatever, but people who are vicious toxic monsters who get to operate
[05:20:21] on US soil with no impediment whatsoever until they oppose Israel, and perhaps even more
[05:20:27] importantly than Israel, oppose Israel's strongest sociopathic warrior, Laura Loomer,
[05:20:34] and then they can be deposed, and then they can just be shipped away deported like that.
[05:20:42] I do hate that precedent. I'm not gonna lie to you. I feel like that is an insane precedent to set.
[05:20:50] It's very difficult for me to feel bad about Milo Iannopoulos personally.
[05:20:59] Because he is a fucking monster.
[05:21:05] I'm not gonna lie, bro. I wasn't a fan at first, but you were right to start the suit era before all this bullshit.
[05:21:09] I'm always thinking ahead, big dog. Think about how many clips of mine have appeared
[05:21:16] on mainstream television in every single one I'm wearing a goddamn suit.
[05:21:22] Yeah, you made it clear that it is, in fact, about Israel. I'm calling on DOJ Attorney General
[05:21:27] Top Blash to investigate disgrace former Congressman Margie Taylor Greene, Trader Greene, for hiring
[05:21:31] and harboring illegal alien Milo Annopoulos, who is now in Iskall custody after a report
[05:21:35] Milo to ice in the FBI last year in 2024, when he called for me to be assassinated in the
[05:21:39] openly supported homos in the I tola while on an expired visa.
[05:21:43] I don't know if Laura Lomar did or didn't get Milo resident, but her ice snitching is pretty
[05:21:46] obviously pursuing a coherent pro-Israel agenda underneath the crazy person image she projects.
[05:22:05] Are you being a suitace away from the argument that you're just a twisty rumor?
[05:22:21] Well, if people don't consider me to be just a twisty rumor then...
[05:22:26] But refuses a neutral third party inspection to prove Pixie's video wasn't shared non-consensually
[05:22:30] among those archives.
[05:22:32] Then there is the groiper husband threatening destiny over an online affair with his wife
[05:22:36] Britt and lewd photos of his daughter.
[05:22:38] I'll let this other guy explain it.
[05:22:40] A former destiny pal named Connor.
[05:22:42] He started sexting a girl on discord named Britt.
[05:22:47] Britt and Devil, the man that I was just talking to, are military veterans who both have PTSD
[05:22:55] and military sexual trauma.
[05:22:59] In November, the devil contacted me and said that his wife was sexting with destiny and
[05:23:08] engaged in role play scenarios in which they pretended to be each other's step parents,
[05:23:14] step family, and they role played molesting their kids.
[05:23:23] they also pretended to be the kids themselves. So they contacted me in
[05:23:33] November. Devil said exactly that. Brett said that they only engaged in babysitter
[05:23:43] role-play and it wasn't that serious. So since I had conflicting narratives, I
[05:23:48] I confronted Destiny, and I wrote him a letter that I read to you on stream.
[05:23:57] For further confirmation of what went down, Britt anonymously called into someone named
[05:24:01] Mr. Girl, crying over what she let Steven do regarding her daughters.
[05:24:05] This year I was involved in an online affair with a guy for almost a year.
[05:24:10] My husband wouldn't engage with any of the weird trauma-induced kink stuff that I was
[05:24:13] curious about.
[05:24:14] And so I was compelled to impulsively and regretfully engage with this guy online in
[05:24:21] some pretty intense and taboo age play scenarios, including fantasizing about being step-parents
[05:24:26] to each other's kids.
[05:24:28] And obviously it went way too far, but felt really intensely good in the moment.
[05:24:34] But afterward, I felt sick and cried all night because it obviously felt really bad too.
[05:24:39] How do you know if the other person also feels the same way or if they would actually do
[05:24:44] it. My understanding is the best predictors are drug use and low empathy. And even worse,
[05:24:52] what if you felt like you love them so much that you wouldn't care if they did and you
[05:24:56] get off on what you would potentially be willing to allow them to get away with? What
[05:25:00] if it is kind of enticing to you in a way, even if you deny it or try to lie to yourself
[05:25:03] about it? Even if you never act out on something like that yourself. Lucky for me, it's over
[05:25:08] know. If you're saying that you doubt your willingness to hold boundaries in real life,
[05:25:15] then that is dangerous. Yes.
[05:25:18] But Destiny didn't like this bizarre activity leaking, so we framed his friend Connor as
[05:25:22] the villain for reporting potential child abuse to the authorities.
[05:25:26] Yeah. Everyone always. Isn't it crazy how much of a coincidence it is that every single
[05:25:32] person that destiny puts in the crosshairs for calling him out for insane behavior is
[05:25:38] automatically considered an op and there will always be something that they can find to say,
[05:25:44] oh, we'll know you actually know you. It's, it's the same tool every single time.
[05:25:52] And if they can't find anything, yeah, the, the Connor and Pisco guys were deorbiters,
[05:25:57] but at least they had a red line where they said, I'm out. Yeah, no, that's what I mean.
[05:26:00] These guys don't agree with me at all as a matter of fact, many of them still fucking hate me. Okay?
[05:26:07] But they really really hate destiny now
[05:26:22] I'm commiss all those orbiters secretly hate him and just farm him for cloud hence why they jump ship so quickly homeland or shit
[05:26:28] No, I don't think that's the case
[05:26:30] No, I think they genuinely find something captivating. I don't know what it is
[05:26:38] Yeah, fcd literally has decades-long reputation of sexually harassing and assaulting people within his orbit then nuking them after it happens
[05:26:44] The fact that no one acknowledges this is insane. Yes. He has had so many fucking victims
[05:26:50] So many fucking victims dude. It is crazy
[05:26:56] It is straight up a grooming cult that he operates
[05:26:59] That's why we say it's not just a cult. I say it's a sex cult. This is the reason
[05:27:07] And I don't know why but like I guess it's it's all of the fans that he has that are diehard loyalists in the cult that
[05:27:17] Basically will identify target new victims for the cult leader and will be like oh you should talk to my my intellectual daddy
[05:27:26] He's wonderful and then they like really ham him up. They really glaze him up
[05:27:32] And weirdly enough
[05:27:36] Everyone that actually fucking issues warnings gets completely cast aside completely sidelined
[05:27:44] Until inevitably the new person becomes a victim as well
[05:27:48] One day there is going to be a literal Jeffrey Epstein style documentary about one of the most prolific
[05:27:54] groomers and harassers and assaulters in this fucking space. Cause like, Minecrafters are
[05:28:02] often one and done, you know what I mean? They get packed up quickly. It's a joke in
[05:28:08] his community that they help him groom teenagers with BPD, yeah. They use digital ground game
[05:28:20] canvassing ops as a front to rent an air bnb for sex law? Gross. I don't
[05:28:28] I just don't understand it. I don't understand how like enough of the victims have not gotten
[05:28:33] together. I mean, I guess this was one of the instances, right? Like the court case that he is
[05:28:37] currently going through is literally former cult members unironically getting together
[05:28:44] and trying to file a lawsuit and to pursue litigation against them and even
[05:28:50] then the cult still continues they harass the living shit out of the victims
[05:28:56] non-stop endlessly endlessly humiliating them endlessly smearing them
[05:29:07] it blows my fucking mind I mean he is truly one of the most heinous individuals
[05:29:12] I've ever had the misfortune of encountering.
[05:29:17] And in retaliation, Destiny posted a cropped photo of Connor's child accusing Connor of
[05:29:21] sending him CSAM.
[05:29:23] Every accusation is a confession, just like Israel, huh?
[05:29:27] To get a sense of how Destiny reacts to shit like this in general, here he is publicly advocating
[05:29:32] for doxing people when his behavior is exposed.
[05:29:34] I expect the behavior from Kiwi Farms, it is what it is.
[05:29:37] Like I said, communities like that will always exist, but it's really gross when people like
[05:29:40] Logistical whose information I hope I can find soon are like trying to amplify or put a magnifying glass on it for over there
[05:29:48] And then have it spread into the other world. That's just wild to me
[05:29:51] But you know here is destiny publicly celebrating the death of someone's father while dropping his real name just because he dared to
[05:29:58] expose destiny plenty of other admissions of him intentionally doxing and harassing
[05:30:02] Absolutely anyone who mentions his court case or any of his shady behavior bragging about how easily he can get away with it
[05:30:09] Even though it's really shitty if she was legit a minor I'm probably done indeed you are Steven and still
[05:30:16] Destiny's loser cult never ceases to show up for him
[05:30:19] The haters are so mad that we know about all of this shit and still defend him grotesque
[05:30:24] Let's see what else? Oh, that's an insane thing to say not even CP can take our boy out
[05:30:32] But when you find yourself
[05:30:34] Here, I'm going to read it.
[05:30:36] How mad will the haters be when this drama, the drama is CSIM?
[05:30:40] So it's not drama.
[05:30:42] Blows over and people still prefer destiny to them.
[05:30:45] Not even CP can do it.
[05:30:48] Okay?
[05:30:50] If you find yourself typing those words and hitting enter,
[05:30:55] you really have to immediately check yourself in to a medical facility.
[05:31:01] Okay?
[05:31:03] It's insane.
[05:31:33] guy sharing instructions on how to get her deported. Oh, the other guy's Myron Gaines.
[05:31:39] The other guy's Myron Gaines. Notorious Holocaust denier Myron Gaines. Another person
[05:31:46] that sex pestony aligns with all the time. Once again, Shannon Watts, are you excited to be a part
[05:31:54] of the legion of truly wretched individuals, including the Fresh and Fit podcast's very own
[05:32:02] Holocaust denier, Myron Gaines?
[05:32:07] Wow.
[05:32:10] No one ever asked why this guy who presents himself as a liberal is constantly collaborating with open
[05:32:16] neo-Nazis, by the way. No one. None of these fucking near-attandon types. They don't know about it,
[05:32:25] or when they find out about it, they simply don't give a shit.
[05:32:28] by ice classy move oh and here's the fun bonus tidbit about this myron gains guy
[05:32:35] he's quote tweeting my ring gains is a freak an anti-semitic freak what the
[05:32:41] fuck cares about the anti-semitism like Aaron positions on anti-semitism are
[05:32:45] you do fucking that dance that's dance hole and oh his whole project is to fire
[05:32:51] Dan Clancy and the whole thing is like saying fucking Hassan is going to
[05:32:54] Genocide the Jews! You do!
[05:32:56] Did you get that? Real anti-Semitism doesn't matter to Destiny, especially when it comes to having sex.
[05:33:02] He'll bring barely legal neo-Nazis around with him on tour for sex.
[05:33:06] That's how much he actually cares about anti-Semitism.
[05:33:10] Because nothing actually matters to a sociopath like him, except his fetishes and petty grievances.
[05:33:16] That's why he attacks people like me or Hassan for imaginary anti-Semitism instead. Real classy.
[05:33:22] And how does destiny feel about all this disgusting sociopathic behavior? If you ask him, he claims he's unimpeachable.
[05:33:29] I feel like I'm largely immune from any big cancellations.
[05:33:32] Unless like fucking Battle.net logs get leaked to me from like 20 years ago or something.
[05:33:37] So, I don't think it's that big of a deal. I'm not typically worried about that.
[05:33:41] I just don't do much to get cancelled other than I have like edgy opinions sometimes.
[05:33:44] But the way that I live like my private life and my professional life are all pretty above board.
[05:33:48] I am a pretty good person.
[05:33:49] Insanity. That's insanity.
[05:33:59] It's, Shannon Was is collaborating with this person. Again, a person who like
[05:34:06] created a gun control organization. This guy goes on the bulwark, bro.
[05:34:12] These are supposed to be liberals, okay? You know how we talk about like a big tent,
[05:34:20] a big tent where they say, I shouldn't be a part of this tent? There is a limit. I think if you're
[05:34:28] collaborating and cooperating with neo-nazis, I think if you have an active court case around
[05:34:33] the distribution of revenge porn in exchange for child sexual abuse material, I don't think
[05:34:39] you get to be a part of the tent a lot of the stuff that they say about me about
[05:34:45] how like I'm I'm a grifter I don't care about the things that I I value the
[05:34:50] things that I speak on it all actually fits perfectly for this fucking loser
[05:35:04] pay my taxes I don't cheat on any of that shit I take over my paperwork I do
[05:35:09] Yeah, like I think for the most part I'm pretty unimpeachable as a person.
[05:35:13] And with his political canvassing operation digital ground game running damage control for him,
[05:35:18] messaging people and whitewashing all the shit he's done, who could blame him?
[05:35:21] He feels invincible, Hasan Chernotist.
[05:35:25] And that-
[05:35:26] Yeah, I did.
[05:35:27] He's done.
[05:35:27] Who could blame him?
[05:35:28] He feels invincible, Hasan Chernotist.
[05:35:31] So you didn't support a candidate strongly opposed to US's
[05:35:33] renovation, it was the AT&T Packers' Relief Support of Palaces.
[05:35:35] I said, do you think people will sue when they find out they donated to this organization
[05:35:38] because they thought it would doorknock to get dims elected and instead is a harassment
[05:35:41] opt for a Zionist sex best called and they've burned all the dollars people donated fighting
[05:35:46] his battles online and then also trying to go to the young college democrats of america conference to
[05:35:54] literally mass-arrested the speaker there to disrupt the event an event that they were not
[05:36:00] invited to. And they openly filmed themselves. How insane they openly filmed
[05:36:09] themselves saying, Oh, we found out this guy speaking at this event, we're going to
[05:36:13] go to the fucking event and we're going to disrupt it. And they streamed the entire
[05:36:20] process and they were shocked that they were barred entry. And then that became
[05:36:26] their own little saga where they're like this guy is a brutal tyrant I can't
[05:36:30] believe how much of a brutal ruthless tyrant he is. And that's probably the
[05:36:36] end of this saga for me. I have absolutely no intention of being dragged
[05:36:39] into the cesspool that is never-ending reactionary YouTube political slop and
[05:36:44] tribal mudslinging as we found his handler where you add Hassanavi
[05:36:53] Pac-Man nukes Hassanabi.
[05:36:55] Hassanabi makes a gross accusation as Miguel versus Hassanabi.
[05:36:59] The case against Hassanabi meaning manifesto.
[05:37:02] That is never ending reactionary YouTube political slop and tribal mudslinging.
[05:37:07] As this would be a fruitless distraction from my science communication.
[05:37:11] And honestly, combing through all this stupid drama, he said this, she said that, I sent
[05:37:16] this, they posted that, it nearly made my fucking head explode.
[05:37:20] Who lives like this every day?
[05:37:21] I've never felt so old as I did putting together this last section, and I hope to never have
[05:37:27] to do anything like that again.
[05:37:28] Reading esoteric primary literature on astrophysics is way more forgiving.
[05:37:32] The point is that Destiny made a clickbait video pretending to expose me as a Jew-hating
[05:37:37] Nazi, so I clapped back to expose his slander and make the case for Israel's genocide.
[05:37:43] He made a limp dick response, sent the troll army after me, and Pangburn went off the fucking
[05:37:48] deep end, filleting AI for 50 hours to do damage control for his prized pig, desperately
[05:37:54] trying to smear me even though he has nothing but fake accusations of anti-Semitism, while
[05:37:59] Destiny is a sexual predator and genocide apologist, who Pangburn will now be judged
[05:38:05] very harshly for platforming with all the facts out in the open, so I gave you this
[05:38:10] one to mock both of them for all this activity and I'm out.
[05:38:13] I have way more important things to do.
[05:38:16] But once again, for the record, I did not start this shit.
[05:38:19] I rarely do.
[05:38:20] Even when I do start things, I'm always super charitable at first.
[05:38:24] James Ture, Sabina Hossenfelder, my first videos poking those figures, were incredibly
[05:38:29] forgiving.
[05:38:30] It's when they react like toddlers that I go full hulk.
[05:38:34] This wasn't even that, Destiny was not on my radar, I vaguely known about his Zionism
[05:38:39] for a while, I didn't say anything.
[05:38:41] Then I noticed he did a reaction video to my Danny Jones appearance.
[05:38:44] There's a whole genocide happening over here that no one is talking about right and you'll never know about it because it's not a
[05:38:48] This is the reason why Dave hates me is because he's obsessed with the Israel Gaza thing
[05:38:51] Which is funny because he commits all the same errors when it comes to Israel Palestine as he sees other people doing with a vaccine ship
[05:38:56] But that's okay
[05:38:57] Still I let this one bullshit comment slide since he was joining me in mocking Danny's supplement shilling and incompetence and
[05:39:05] At that time I still thought he deserved points for his anti-maga efforts
[05:39:09] But then he throws this shit out there calling me a Jew hating them. I think that's what it is. I think yo
[05:39:17] That's it key like
[05:39:20] Develops credibility by going after maga
[05:39:24] But his ultimate goal is to attack the left and attack people who is you know getting in the way of his is
[05:39:32] Ultimate goals, which is to be a sex pest right to operate
[05:39:36] to operate his sex cult. And because that's his like ultimate goal, his primary targets are always
[05:39:47] going to be, you know, oftentimes people on the left. And therefore, he just like builds up a
[05:39:54] little bit of credibility by debating MAGA and then immediately burns that credibility by turning
[05:39:59] around and attacking people that are not sufficiently pro-Israel, not pro-genocide like he is,
[05:40:06] or, or, you know, his ultimate target will always be me, no matter what.
[05:40:15] He entirely skates by when it comes to the MAGA shit. It's the front of legitimacy he puts up,
[05:40:20] so we can all do all this depraved shit in his other time. His entire life revolves around this.
[05:40:27] I mean, look, I don't know where this motherfucker streams. I assume he's on kick, right? And I
[05:40:34] I don't know if he's still on YouTube or not, but I see the clips.
[05:40:38] I'm always in the motherfucking corner.
[05:40:40] It's like him playing some, some, some video game.
[05:40:43] I don't know, like factorial, right?
[05:40:47] And then I'm in the corner for most of the stream.
[05:40:57] He's on Bologna.
[05:40:59] Yeah, no one watches long enough. He has vids calling Muslims Nazis and other insane stereotypes. Yeah, he is a
[05:41:08] horrible Islamophobe
[05:41:22] Pure grifter pushing poly market as now
[05:41:24] Did you know that if you go to polymarket dot us and sign up use promo code destiny you get
[05:41:30] $20 free to positive your account to buy contracts on
[05:41:34] I mean, how's he gonna fucking fund his lawsuit man? You know, how's he gonna fund his own defense?
[05:41:41] Well, you think well on a whole bunch of different things 24 dollars you could turn that into you turn that into a thousand dollars
[05:41:48] You know I'm saying that's a that's a the American dream, baby. Hell yeah
[05:41:51] And we've talked about how that exact
[05:41:54] marketing ploy should be illegal for one,
[05:41:59] but it's extremely destructive for folks
[05:42:02] when you give them that free money,
[05:42:04] because you can't withdraw the winnings from that money,
[05:42:07] you have to put in more money, bet more money,
[05:42:08] and then unlock that free $20.
[05:42:10] They're giving you $20 to bet with.
[05:42:12] They are not giving you $20,
[05:42:14] and basically it's a trap, right?
[05:42:16] You think, oh, I did win, I won $35,
[05:42:18] but I just have to gamble a little bit more
[05:42:21] so I can get that money out,
[05:42:22] and that's how they get you,
[05:42:23] and it's like, oh, fuck, I lost,
[05:42:24] but I already want, so I'm gonna put my credit card in,
[05:42:26] I'm gonna do all these things, it's very pernicious, okay?
[05:42:29] And to see Destiny just brazenly, blatantly bragging about it
[05:42:32] and also using his name as a promo code to unlock that,
[05:42:37] that's not good stuff.
[05:42:38] Yeah, literally enlisting his own audience
[05:42:40] into Polymarket or enrolling them into Polymarket,
[05:42:43] using his influence to coax his viewers
[05:42:47] into a potential lifetime of fucking gambling addiction.
[05:42:50] That's what Polymarket is, you might as well say,
[05:42:52] using promo code to go down to the casino and and you know put some money on the
[05:42:56] blackjack table like this it's no different in fact it's even worse
[05:42:59] because you're supposed to be someone in the space of journalism and politics
[05:43:03] and news which is people fall people fall into this fucking grift man I feel so
[05:43:10] bad I mean he is like in many respects he is is not dissimilar to an Andrew
[05:43:21] tight, right? Like he also has a very, a very similar toxic effect on young men.
[05:43:32] Different than just like running a channel about gambling. No, you're actually introducing this
[05:43:37] element into it and muddying the waters.
[05:43:50] Nazi, and then dispatching his troll army to attack me as though there wouldn't be consequences?
[05:43:55] It's like, do people somehow still not know who I am and how I do?
[05:44:00] When you fuck around, you find out.
[05:44:02] He poked the hornet's nest twice now, and this is what you get.
[05:44:06] you get your pitchfork toting mob sprayed down with a power hose and your
[05:44:10] house of cards set on fire
[05:44:12] destiny thought he could run cover for israel as a backup plan for getting
[05:44:16] exposed as a sex pest and both threads are unraveling simul
[05:44:19] i'm beyond as i think it's sadder than that
[05:44:25] i don't even think he was like making an expert
[05:44:28] you know expert play of
[05:44:31] of
[05:44:33] You know, Brian Singer style, um, no extradition policy having Israel as an escape plan.
[05:44:42] No, I think he just straight up.
[05:44:45] I think he's, first of all, I don't even think he knew about that.
[05:44:48] When he said he's pro genocide, no, he just saw me as being against Israel.
[05:44:57] There's an immediate disciplining operation that happens.
[05:45:00] Yeah, look when anyone steps out of line with a cult leader Z claims to sump hikers on the same team to fight Republicans in the midterms
[05:45:06] I'm tired boss man. Why can't our side read the room ones? There's Ian Dems in general
[05:45:11] You can just put the gun down for once and religiously shooting yourself in the foot girl by he literally called Biden genocide Joe the other day law
[05:45:19] Yeah, immediately and the harassment will kick in and sometimes
[05:45:24] sometimes people respond negatively to that harassment and they leave the cult and they
[05:45:31] get attacked mercilessly for it, but usually when they get stuff like this, usually when
[05:45:40] they, when, uh, when they receive this kind of pushback, most people are too scared to
[05:45:44] leave this community because it's, uh, sometimes they're financially attached to the community,
[05:45:49] They fear that if they if they leave dear leader in his sex cult, then they'll lose the audience
[05:45:58] They'll lose the aid
[05:46:00] His Israel apologetics have become totally indefensible and his revolting predatory behavior
[05:46:18] is finally having legitimate real world consequences.
[05:46:21] He has nowhere left to run.
[05:46:23] He could come clean and admit that this is genocide and start telling the truth about
[05:46:27] Israel, but that's the thing about sexual predators.
[05:46:30] They always protect themselves first.
[05:46:32] As for Destiny's pathetic cult members, the Brigading Troll Army, the Cockroach Party,
[05:46:38] it's your turn to listen up.
[05:46:39] What I've done to your dear leader is quite devastating.
[05:46:42] I'm not the first to expose all of this, but it's now all in one convenient location for
[05:46:47] an entirely new audience to see what a worthless piece of shit your hero is.
[05:46:52] You mindless lemmings who docks, threaten, harass into oblivion, anyone who dares shine
[05:46:57] spotlight on the spineless pervert.
[05:46:59] Sonhiker, you always say if I was grifting I would grip to the right if I thought
[05:47:02] grifting left was impossible. It's almost a feat.
[05:47:08] Um, what, you think Destiny's grifting to the left?
[05:47:14] Destiny's not grifting to the left. His entire output is literally attacking the left.
[05:47:21] He's grifting right. He collaborates with neo-nazis all the fucking time.
[05:47:27] He collabs with neo-nauzel time. He's a center right figure. He just claims to be a liberal
[05:47:37] Like what what pivotal moment from this and he's come there in the last seven years
[05:47:42] Would you say is like a like a big leftist position?
[05:47:46] was it
[05:47:49] Re-platforming Nick Fuentes when he had been successfully de-platformed and
[05:47:53] And then bragging about platforming Nick Fuentes was that him grifting to the left you think
[05:48:03] Yeah, was it when he called for a black last-minute approach is to be mowed down by white national is driving pickup trucks
[05:48:12] Was that was that him quote-a-quote grifting to the left. What is that the left position?
[05:48:16] You've been trained to insulate you who have already desperately tried to get my channel
[05:48:26] terminated on the grounds of imaginary terrorism like pathetic little babies I can see yeah
[05:48:32] I think a lot of people also failed to comprehend exactly how stupid these guys are and how
[05:48:38] stupid many of the other like orbiters are in this community like remember when someone
[05:48:44] issued a death threat against me and Zora Mumdani, and I jokingly waved around an airsoft gun.
[05:48:50] And for like that entire week, everyone was like, well, Hasan is going to prison like
[05:48:55] tomorrow, like the police are going to be knocking down his door anytime now. This is
[05:49:00] a direct death threat. He's going to prison. There were like lawyer YouTubers. I don't
[05:49:08] even know if they're real lawyers or not, but like they were writing, they were, they
[05:49:12] were making videos about how I was definitely going to prison, Asmongole was reacting to
[05:49:18] it, XQC was reacting to it, and everyone was like, it's over, Hasan is going to prison,
[05:49:23] and then nothing happened.
[05:49:27] That has happened probably more than 300 times in the last seven years. They come up with
[05:49:35] like a fake controversy. They frame it in the most negative way possible, oftentimes
[05:49:41] exaggerating, oftentimes just outright lying, okay? They keep hammering it on over and over
[05:49:48] and over again. There are tens of millions of views that are accrued in the process,
[05:49:56] like so many people reacting to those videos, so many people saying like, yeah, it's over,
[05:50:02] this guy's the biggest villain of all time, and then nothing happens. And when nothing happens,
[05:50:07] They don't turn around and go, am I getting my information from this fucking dumb idiot
[05:50:13] who doesn't know what he's talking about?
[05:50:16] No, it's probably a grander conspiracy.
[05:50:19] There is an entire economy around this now.
[05:50:24] Isn't that crazy?
[05:50:29] There is an entire economy that revolves around this.
[05:50:31] People make a shit ton of money.
[05:50:34] And the more things don't pan out in the way that they suggested it, the more insane the
[05:50:41] conspiracy gets.
[05:50:42] Now they sincerely believe in the copiconomy side, yes.
[05:50:47] Now they sincerely believe that I control Twitch.
[05:50:51] Okay, that's what it is.
[05:50:53] I control Amazon.
[05:50:55] I control Twitch.
[05:50:56] I'm the one who's, you know, I'm able to do whatever I want to do on this platform.
[05:51:04] And then, and then it's, it's, I guess eventually it's going to be, I control the government.
[05:51:11] I control federal law enforcement.
[05:51:15] What?
[05:51:17] Hey, everyone, I've been a watcher of the shame and this is Wade on me for a while at
[05:51:24] Hassan the Hun.
[05:51:25] I'm transgender, never saying anything to Hassan again, man.
[05:51:29] What the fuck?
[05:51:30] I love that.
[05:51:31] I wonder if a reporter has ever seen one of these and asked a trans woman about her brutal encounter with a son
[05:51:39] I'm waiting for you from big tuck Carlson
[05:51:44] How do you explain this to boomers that this is just like a random meta
[05:51:49] In a in a very pro trans very queer friendly community that the meta is that I like anytime
[05:51:57] a
[05:51:58] queer person
[05:52:00] uh, go through an operation or at like falls down or something they'll post
[05:52:07] They'll post a photo of themselves in the hospital bed being like never tell us on piker your trans never tell us on piker
[05:52:13] You're gay. How do you explain that to someone who's like 75 years old?
[05:52:18] You know what I mean?
[05:52:20] This is part of the reason why I get fucking dinged so hard on mainstream media because like
[05:52:26] half of this shit is just jokes
[05:52:28] Half of it is also because I have a very straightforward, like very straightforward one note style, like dry humor.
[05:52:37] Where, you know, my sarcastic voice sometimes can come across as not so different from my regular voice.
[05:52:44] Although there are instances where it's egregious and it's very obvious I'm using a sarcastic voice like the black people lynching thing.
[05:52:58] What is this? Back in 2020, my community hosted the largest canvassing operation in the state
[05:53:06] of Georgia over multiple weekends ago. I'm going to go out and do a knock for Oslo for
[05:53:08] a war on August. I was on felt about it back before there was any cloud and being supportive
[05:53:12] of either candidate. Wait, what?
[05:53:14] Here's destiny at the Georgia event handing an award to the woman whose pornography he'd
[05:53:18] already non-consensually shared with a 10 day old anonymous Twitter user. She's now
[05:53:22] suing him. Weird to brag about this when you violated the sexual consent of one of your
[05:53:26] organizer Steven Jesus Christ. I'm telling you everything is fucking pure absolute resentment.
[05:53:43] Your lynching comment got more media coverage than the video of James Hitchback telling
[05:53:47] an actual black person they deserve to be lynched? Yes.
[05:53:55] Zach Woods was another banger.
[05:53:56] My fellow is actually anti-Semitic and I know this from personal experience. I don't
[05:54:01] like to track other actors, but I met with him a couple of years ago because I wanted
[05:54:04] to pitch him an idea. We sat down, I said, before we even exchanged any niceties, I said,
[05:54:12] Orthodox Hulk and he said a big pardon. I said orthodox Hulk. It's Hulk, but he's Jewish orthodox and
[05:54:21] He said okay. I'm interested, but I don't totally understand. I said it's Hulk
[05:54:26] but he doesn't work on Saturdays and
[05:54:29] His brother is an accomplished cardiologist
[05:54:33] And he said okay. Is it like the Hulk I play and I say exactly but where's
[05:54:38] your catchphrase is you wouldn't like me when I'm angry. His catchphrase is you
[05:54:43] wouldn't like me when I realized it's a versus law some of its original charm.
[05:54:47] And he said okay well that's interesting but I could tell he was
[05:54:50] resistant and that's when I first started to realize he's anti-Semitic and I
[05:54:53] said okay forget that what about you know Black Panther he goes of course I
[05:54:56] said what about black and Jewish Panther and he could be played by Sammy
[05:55:00] Davis Jr. and he goes well I think Sammy Davis Jr. is dead and I said you shut
[05:55:05] your liar's mouth. Turns out he was right, which is horrible. So I said, okay, forget
[05:55:12] it, forget it, forget it, scrap that. Iron man. He goes, well, that already exists.
[05:55:15] I said, not like I'm thinking. I said, this is an iron man who works in the tenements where
[05:55:22] my ancestors came from. In the Lower East Side, he's a peace worker, and he irons, and
[05:55:26] you know, he came from the, the saddle to escape the pogroms. And he goes, you know,
[05:55:31] I'm not sure I'm the right person to talk to about this. I think you need to talk to
[05:55:34] Kevin Feet. I said, I don't know who that is. And that's what I knew. He was just anti-Semite
[05:55:39] from from tip to tank. And so sure, Mark Ruffalo advocates tirelessly on behalf of the disenfranchised
[05:55:48] and the defenseless. Sure, he always stands up for the underdog.
[05:55:53] Dude, Zach was so good. He's so fucking good on TikTok. I don't know how to like, I never
[05:56:00] thought that he would be this guy. It's so strange.
[05:56:06] I gave him three golden ideas and the only reason he would have said no to them is his
[05:56:13] anti-Semitism so I missed my case.
[05:56:20] Peace mode. Orthodox Hulk. He's a comedy writer. I know but I feel like TikTok timing is very
[05:56:27] different than like regular comedic timing. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, he's not a lot of
[05:56:32] not a lot of comedians are, are this on it.
[05:56:46] I always liked them. Like, it's not like I wasn't a fan of him or anything. I was.
[05:56:50] I'm just saying that he's so his his writing and his humor and his timing also translates
[05:57:02] to making short TikTok clips that go super viral.
[05:57:19] What you're looking at is perfect editorial restraint.
[05:57:27] When is Star Wars going to stop doing ads and come back on the show?
[05:57:32] I don't know. I don't know if he's next time I'm in New York or next time he's in LA.
[05:57:40] Zach Woods isn't usually funny, so I am surprised and that's what I knew.
[05:57:43] His song is an anti-sale. It's not what I said.
[05:57:48] It's not what I said.
[05:58:02] I
[05:58:09] My mom just me after me sharing a t24 a room my family got doped with a kayak it shit y'all that shit pops off in turkey
[05:58:17] And it blew my mind we're even family friends with one of your high school classmates and she's heard about you from her
[05:58:21] I've been watching you since 2019 so the fish anecdotes help convince her but the shit about you out there is fucking minefield
[05:58:27] Yeah, look I've been I have been the
[05:58:30] the primary vehicle of attacking all things left, all things liberalism, all things woke
[05:58:39] for the last decade, okay?
[05:58:43] So there is an extensive list of slanderous accusations out there that gets disseminated
[05:58:54] all the time.
[05:58:58] grounds of imaginary terrorism, like pathetic little babies, I can feel the rage towards
[05:59:04] me bubbling inside you.
[05:59:06] Your instinct will be to target me even more directly, puffing up your little boy chests
[05:59:11] and doing anything you can to ruin my life.
[05:59:13] Free Destiny!
[05:59:14] Free Destiny!
[05:59:15] Free Steve and Kenneth Barlow II!
[05:59:17] Free Destiny!
[05:59:18] Free Destiny!
[05:59:19] Hey, Froge!
[05:59:20] Free Destiny, motherfucker!
[05:59:21] Free Steve and Kenneth Barlow II!
[05:59:22] You did nothing wrong!
[05:59:23] And you can't get sure!
[05:59:24] I'm not I'm not destiny I'm not gonna play around and troll you I will do a one-way
[05:59:49] straight to your house and I will knock on your door with my shroom right outside and
[05:59:54] I will bang bang bang until you answer it.
[05:59:59] Keep fucking with me and we'll see what happens.
[06:00:03] That's a threat.
[06:00:04] That's Asian guy, now we're at it.
[06:00:06] Do it.
[06:00:07] Yeah, this little asshole named Darius is a whole other rabbit hole and if you think
[06:00:10] he's the only destiny warship or who's like this, you'd be dead wrong.
[06:00:14] But know this, tough little-
[06:00:16] Yeah, that guy we found out he was one of the he was the the guy that was trying to
[06:00:24] To infiltrate the college democrats thing and then we found out that he fucking has a his a restraining order from his ex
[06:00:36] For domestic abuse
[06:00:41] Birds of a feather
[06:00:43] Little children, if you show up at my house, if you come near my wife and kids, if you
[06:00:49] put any of us at risk for a single second, I will destroy you.
[06:00:53] Real world consequences will arrive for you at lightning speed if you do absolutely anything
[06:00:59] beyond acting like a little bitch in the comments section, which you're welcome to do to boost
[06:01:03] my content in the algorithm.
[06:01:05] So think long and hard about how badly you need to continue acting like disposable pawns
[06:01:11] for your sex-pest cult leader who doesn't give two shits about you.
[06:01:15] And finally, the American Israeli War Machine, which was the impetus for all this.
[06:01:20] Like I outlined in my previous video, the genocide, the Orwellian surveillance, never
[06:01:25] forget that this is all one thing.
[06:01:28] Zionism is the oligarchy.
[06:01:31] Weapons manufacturers testing new toys on Gazans to market them as battle-tested for
[06:01:36] global export.
[06:01:37] estate moguls planning luxury resorts and highrises on the ashes of slaughtered children in Nugaza.
[06:01:44] Palantir mass surveillance tech being used on both Gazans and American citizens, for
[06:01:49] techno-fascist billionaires that are actively planning to tank the global economy and replace
[06:01:54] federal governments with independent corporate-owned and operated dystopian city-states.
[06:01:58] The moral failure of Zionism and the genocide of Palestinians we are witnessing in real
[06:02:03] time is inextricably linked to this last gasp of predatory capitalism, as the unquenchable
[06:02:09] thirst for profits finally consumes every last institution, gutting and privatizing
[06:02:15] every last public service, destroying entire democracies and ecosystems in an effort to
[06:02:20] maintain untenable short term gains.
[06:02:23] This is the real existential fight, everything else is a distraction, including Destiny's
[06:02:29] weird ass sex stuff, so I'm gonna get back to my efforts now.
[06:02:33] So that's it for Destiny and Pangburn. May their reputations continue to suffer appropriately.
[06:02:39] I guess some people just never learn. And with that, it's back to debunking all the
[06:02:44] anti-science propaganda peddling frauds from every corner of the internet to every corner
[06:02:49] of Trump's cabinet, since that's what we're all here for. Until next time.
[06:02:59] We do breakfast club again for sure
[06:03:10] Yeah, the video was professor Dave
[06:03:16] 200 gifts subs if you click that middle video
[06:03:20] Think I thought I made it clear I would rather die than watch that video
[06:03:24] Why can't you be this hardcore? I don't know. I'm too nice.
[06:03:32] It's on piker and it's not just him it's the whole fucking and like it's like all of them
[06:03:55] them. Every day 24 seven. Just full court press against the Democratic Party. And the
[06:04:10] people that are pointing this out and calling attention to it and calling it out and confronting
[06:04:16] it. Are getting shit because it's like you're kind of you're talking about the left a little
[06:04:21] too much. It's like, what?
[06:04:28] What? What? What? What?
[06:04:42] As the Italian bald delegation in the chat, we disavow this bald man.
[06:04:51] Damn, this is a long ass fucking, let's see what David's view was.
[06:04:58] I wanted to check in with Piker because this week really felt like an inflection point.
[06:05:01] Back in April, the campaign by Third Way and some central Democrats demand Canada stay
[06:05:04] away from Parker.
[06:05:06] Piker fizzled out.
[06:05:07] He kept campaigning, drew big crowds, and convinced a lot of Democrats that it was time
[06:05:10] to get over canceled culture.
[06:05:11] This week, pro-Israel and anti-social Democrats took another and more aggressive approach.
[06:05:15] Jewish Insider published a clip of Piker talking about blowback.
[06:05:18] On American News, the headline of Somparkar says, Jews support Israel are inviting violence.
[06:05:21] That angered Michigan Democrats were freshened with the L side and brought Jeffries and other
[06:05:25] Democrats into the fray, putting the Canada L side had invested in the most in on the
[06:05:30] defensive.
[06:05:31] Piker believes that the attention on him is ludicrous and an attempt by the old political
[06:05:35] staff from the toxify views that are now being held by most Democrats, specifically
[06:05:38] the Israel's committing a genocide of the Palestinians and America should stop sending
[06:05:42] it weapons.
[06:05:43] This is not wrong.
[06:05:44] The weakness of the democratic party's image and it's a lack of a coherent agenda that
[06:05:47] every candidate has written a Republican playbook.
[06:05:49] craziest thing anyone on the left has said and glued to the Democrats' foreheads. To the extent
[06:05:53] that works, it's for the same reasons Piker can't be de-platformed unless social media platforms
[06:05:56] are goaded into killing his revenue. Politicians don't control the conversation or the attention
[06:06:00] economy and neither do the traditional outlets that used to herd this stuff.
[06:06:07] Room for Disagreement
[06:06:07] Even the Democrats going after Piker have some concerns that their attacks are blurring the
[06:06:11] party message. I think this kind of stuff is what Republicans are going to use to drive a
[06:06:14] wedge got himerset on Fox News. Notable, in the Atlantic, liberal critical left, Jonathan
[06:06:19] Chaitre worries about the Michigan race, al-Sahed winning could invite a future in which the
[06:06:23] United States has not just one party that is open to bigots but two. In Jacobin, Branco-Marcetic
[06:06:29] accuses centrist Democrats of hating Piker more than they love victory.
[06:06:35] Hype train, PBS September is here. Wait really? Is it September?
[06:06:51] Hype died?
[06:06:56] Oh shit, at level 2 it died.
[06:07:00] Senses, when?
[06:07:02] Census, Census on Sunday. Census on Sunday. All right, it's official. The Hassanabi Census
[06:07:25] is happening on Sunday.
[06:07:28] Why not Monday?
[06:07:29] I don't know, because Monday we do like regular news coverage.
[06:07:37] Okay, fuck it, census on Monday.
[06:07:44] What time on Monday in the afternoon?
[06:07:47] Who the fuck suggested Monday?
[06:07:49] Oh no, I think Sunday.
[06:07:50] I wanna do Sunday.
[06:07:51] I'm sorry.
[06:07:55] The day JD Vance attacks you, Cinema? Wait, when is the JD Vance rally? Is it Monday or Sunday?
[06:08:11] What is this, Mehdi Hasan Yikes?
[06:08:16] Oh yeah, I saw that, the Shannon Watts thing.
[06:08:19] Viewership higher on a weekday more accurate? I might not be in chat on Sunday. I'll be in LA for the fear and life show. Maybe you've heard of it.
[06:08:35] of it. Every year, we do a community census. Every year, in the month of August, we get
[06:08:47] together, we round up the forces, we let the word out, and we do a Hasanabi annual census.
[06:09:00] And in that census, we deliver consensus.
[06:09:04] That's right.
[06:09:08] We do a head count.
[06:09:10] We find out how much older the community has gotten.
[06:09:21] And we figure out how much gayer the chat is,
[06:09:26] how much more transgender the chat is.
[06:09:30] and all that good stuff.
[06:09:37] Sunday midday.
[06:09:43] Now also,
[06:09:49] we find out the ideological makeup of the community,
[06:09:52] how much more of the community is self-identifying socialist.
[06:09:56] When we first started the census, there was like far more conservatives in the chat, far more liberals in the chat.
[06:10:04] Nowadays, it's like overwhelmingly socialist and everyone is just aging. Everyone is aging.
[06:10:10] I think we might have to actually change the census brackets.
[06:10:15] There's already a GitHub for it. The Hassanabi census, if you guys want to see the census data from years prior.
[06:10:25] But I think we're gonna have to change the 30 plus because it's definitely gonna be over 50% now
[06:10:32] And we can only do five so I think I'm just gonna do under 21
[06:10:40] Instead of under 18
[06:10:45] Under 21 22 to 25 26 to 29 and then add to the top
[06:10:55] Well, the categories can only be 5 because we run it off of Twitch, we run it off of
[06:11:15] We ask for gender, 62% male, 28% female, 8% non-bidenary.
[06:11:27] We ask for political ideology.
[06:11:30] When we first started there was a 5% conservative, almost 8% liberal, 35 SOC-DEM, 51 socialist,
[06:11:38] over the years that dramatically has reduced to 0.71% conservative, 0.98% liberal, 1.3%
[06:11:49] apolitical, 12.7% socked M, and 84% socialist.
[06:11:59] So a lot of people ask like, a lot of people always say like, Oh, well, aren't you preaching
[06:12:03] to the choir?
[06:12:04] I know it not when I began.
[06:12:10] And the racial breakdown has also changed dramatically June 2020 when we first started
[06:12:19] the census.
[06:12:20] The community was far less white.
[06:12:26] And the white percentages remain fairly stable at 56% since 2021.
[06:12:38] What is this?
[06:12:39] Do not participate in the Hassanabi census.
[06:12:42] It's a scam.
[06:12:43] He harvests your personal information for advertisers and Twitch.
[06:12:47] He can and will sell your data to the highest bidder.
[06:12:49] Do not fall for it.
[06:12:51] Yes.
[06:12:52] run a lot of advertising on this broadcast, famously, notoriously. The only advertising
[06:13:00] you will ever hear is for the Piker Broadcasting Service, the People's Broadcasting Service
[06:13:05] sponsored by you, the people, for you, the people. Please subscribe. It's the best way
[06:13:10] to
[06:13:12] yeah Hassan tier
[06:13:20] It's overwhelmingly atheist and agnostic
[06:13:28] The number of of Jewish community members is decreased from two to 1.9
[06:13:33] always overwhelmingly atheists agnostic, sexuality, majority straight, and a shit ton of bisexuals
[06:13:52] and pansexuals.
[06:13:58] We do the height survey, because every year we add something new.
[06:14:02] Every year we try to add something new and silly.
[06:14:06] The height one I think is stupid.
[06:14:13] I don't know why we do the height survey.
[06:14:17] We do the CISTRANS location, America's Australia, Europe, Asia, Africa.
[06:14:30] Not many tuning in from Africa.
[06:14:34] Some tuning in from Asia.
[06:14:40] Mostly people tuning in from the United States.
[06:14:45] We do a salary survey, a lot of y'all have grown up and gotten jobs over the years.
[06:15:10] We do education, mostly Bachelor of Arts, Bachelor of Sciences, some masters in there,
[06:15:19] PhD, MD at 4%, associates trade at 14%, high school, GED at 26.6%, virginity card, some
[06:15:33] fun ones in there that are stupid.
[06:15:37] have or non-Segs have or it used to be almost a 50-50 split between virgins and many of
[06:15:45] you have grown up and had sex for the first time ever weeps. This is the one that has
[06:15:52] swung as dramatically. This is the only poll that has swung wildly over the years. The
[06:16:05] The weeb wars will continue. What is a weeb? Crazy. You don't know what a weeb is.
[06:16:11] It's anime manga fan. That's annoying about it.
[06:16:18] Diet. This one's for Ostenox. Obviously, omnivore carnus supremacy here. Neurodiversity percentages.
[06:16:33] overwhelmingly neurodiverse, 66%. Gaming Frogs, Watch None, Watch Some, Watch All, Liars,
[06:16:44] all of you, considering that tens of thousands of people participate in the yearly Hasan
[06:16:56] Nobby survey and none of you watch me play games.
[06:17:04] And then years watched was the last addition to the survey at four plus years is
[06:17:12] almost 50% of the community, three to four years of 14% unbelievable levels
[06:17:18] of audience retention, by the way.
[06:17:21] Like I think this is probably one of the more impressive.
[06:17:24] I can't wait to see what this number looks like now, but the level of audience retention
[06:17:30] in this community is insane.
[06:17:37] So we will be doing it live, and we will be relying on the Twitch poll system.
[06:17:55] You predict 1 to 2 years will be the biggest this year?
[06:17:57] No, I don't think so.
[06:17:58] 1 to 2 years is only 11.9%, 0 to 1 is 14, 2 to 3 years is 12, 3 to 4 years is 14, 4 plus
[06:18:06] years is 47. Logs, bitch. It's only fair you lie about gaming. We lie about watching
[06:18:16] you game on. We're such a good match. Okay. That wasn't that good of a take that you required
[06:18:22] me to go back and fucking, you know.
[06:18:32] So we still obviously have a new poll that we have to add on.
[06:18:40] I believe you can participate in the survey even if you're not on desktop, right?
[06:18:44] You can still do the polls on your phone.
[06:18:50] We will go through the questions piece by piece and no, we're not going to do cut or
[06:18:54] on cut.
[06:18:55] Jesus Christ, why do you guys always want me to add that?
[06:18:58] every year there's motherfuckers in the chat who are like, do penis size, do penis size.
[06:19:06] If you want to lie in the fucking census, there's already a category for it. It's called
[06:19:11] height. Okay.
[06:19:16] Plus, my prediction is I think the female percentage in the audience is going to go
[06:19:25] up this year. I don't know why. I have no reason to believe that, but I think my prediction
[06:19:31] is that the female to male percentage, I think we're going to eradicate more men because
[06:19:39] that's what the trend line looks like so far anyway.
[06:19:55] Add New Zealand. I don't want to select Australia. What the fuck?
[06:20:02] This happened last year as well
[06:20:15] Probably doing it with twitch is you're not gonna get people who work on Sundays or religious people religious people
[06:20:25] Like 87% of the community is like atheists. What are you talking about?
[06:20:42] The Lord comes first. All religious people go to church 24 hours on Sunday. Don't you know?
[06:20:49] you know. Yeah, it's kind of funny. It's kind of funny because I know that that
[06:20:55] motherfucker is not religious at all. Because if he was, he would know that
[06:21:01] that's silly.
[06:21:01] It's 87% because you do it on Sunday dumb logic
[06:21:18] No, I don't do it on Sunday.
[06:21:26] But that's funny.
[06:21:27] Have you seen this insanity highway robbery in Egyptian game Rob the movie trove is sold
[06:21:31] 105 kilograms of frozen chicken?
[06:21:37] Wait, that's fucking sick.
[06:21:42] That is such a cool crime, holy shit.
[06:22:01] That's far.
[06:22:13] My debated Doris, this clip is from the debate, is insane.
[06:22:15] Do you think elected officials should take money from eye contractors and corporations?
[06:22:22] I think that's a...
[06:22:23] You know, of course not, but the thing is, is that, you know, these things are in the
[06:22:27] Vanguard accounts, they're indexed accounts, we can't control them.
[06:22:31] Oh no, these are contributions to your campaign.
[06:22:33] Well, I don't even know who they are.
[06:22:35] I don't know who they are.
[06:22:38] I mean, really?
[06:22:41] Please.
[06:22:41] These very same companies that have denied holding your campaign, would you return their donations and their contributions to your campaign?
[06:22:50] You know, you know more about the things in my campaign than anyone else does. I can't believe it.
[06:22:56] I don't even know what companies you're talking about right now. Some of those companies also do other things, too.
[06:23:03] I do think it's incredibly important.
[06:23:04] Oh my god.
[06:23:13] So...
[06:23:15] Fuck it, she should run again.
[06:23:18] Aunt, can you please explain?
[06:23:19] These teenagers aren't fighting. They're competing for aura.
[06:23:23] But what does that mean? Two people stand face to face surrounded by a crowd. They take turns
[06:23:28] performing gestures, poses, and recreations of viral moments. There are no punches, instead,
[06:23:33] they are competing to show who has the most aura. This trend has spread across Mexico,
[06:23:38] Argentina, Brazil, and other countries in the region. So what does aura farming
[06:23:45] What is this? See, Shannon Watts claims to care about sex and racism in AIDS Sims,
[06:23:49] I wonder how she can justify this. I'm sure they won't just talk about their obsession of a psalm piker
[06:24:05] Okay, now I get why he likes mum Donnie state should denaturalizing the poor Matthews on I'm writing a letter to that effect
[06:24:10] And I'm making sure it gets in front of the right people let him squill a more American than you as they're dragging
[06:24:15] Him on to his one-way fight
[06:24:19] I mean, on tiktok or Instagram-
[06:24:23] Yo Zee, the younger are so cringe with this aura shit?
[06:24:26] Okay dude, we're just fucking boomers, we don't understand it, they're having fun, let
[06:24:30] them have fun.
[06:24:31] Aura describes the style, attitude or charisma someone projects, and farming comes from video
[06:24:36] games, particularly Minecraft, where players collect and accumulate resources or experience.
[06:24:41] So aura farming means doing things that make you appear more charismatic, cool, respected,
[06:24:47] or popular.
[06:24:48] set routine or specific steps to follow, the aim is simply to project as much aura as possible.
[06:24:54] The crowd's applause and cheers play into a part deciding who is crowned the winner,
[06:24:58] along with a panel of judges who can make the final call. What started as social media slang has
[06:25:03] now become a street spectacle where charisma is no longer something you post online, it's now
[06:25:08] something you can compete for. These teenagers aren't fighting, they're competing for aura.
[06:25:14] But what does that mean? Two people stand face to face surrounded by a crowd. They take turns before...
[06:25:25] It's like straight ballroom. True. It's Gen Z though. They're all gay anyway.
[06:25:32] This is how I think JoJo stands would look. Yeah, I'm just... I'm in favor of letting these guys have fun.
[06:25:39] they're doing bow rewrite to rewatch they're all gay and sober and nobody's
[06:25:57] hooking up nobody's hooking up at all this is killing me I really brought
[06:26:04] them all out and of course grandpa's nowhere to be seen I agree Austin I
[06:26:08] I swear to God, wait, what?
[06:26:10] Ba-ha-ha-ha.
[06:26:11] People on the East Coast and Midwest deserve this so bad.
[06:26:14] Jesus, fuck, walk it.
[06:26:17] Larry!
[06:26:18] All right, fix it!
[06:26:19] Wait, what's-
[06:26:20] What is wrong with you?
[06:26:21] What happened?
[06:26:25] You're gonna have so many B-roll shots of his songs on his phone.
[06:26:30] I guess you never stink.
[06:26:32] That's not true.
[06:26:33] You guys really need to figure out East Coast, bro.
[06:27:01] What is this?
[06:27:02] It's terrible.
[06:27:03] You have annoying little massages and gassels blaming women for everything?
[06:27:07] Oh, you're talking about Gen Z culture?
[06:27:15] Amazing things are being cooked up on
[06:27:16] I like them. I don't want to like them. I like them for some stupid reason.
[06:27:21] I actually like Abdul. I probably shouldn't like them.
[06:27:33] What the fuck is going on brother come on oh my god oh my god it's that smile it's that
[06:27:46] damn smile.
[06:27:52] Lil' Birdie told me you were coming to the fake nation of Belgium in September oh Lil'
[06:27:55] birdie might be chirping right the whole fear and tours because I also wanted to
[06:28:06] be amongst a bunch of random people who know he who he is right yes like
[06:28:11] literally that's it that's I just I wish it was something different like I wish
[06:28:15] I could be like oh we really wanted to deliver to you guys an excellent live
[06:28:20] performance and like everybody was on board. I see no reason to lie to you. Okay, I see no reason
[06:28:28] to lie to you. It was none of those things. It was entirely Austin's need. Not his desire, but need
[06:28:39] to be in front of live audiences. And he brought us all the, oh god, he's calling. What the fucks
[06:28:48] What pisses you off?
[06:28:51] When I have a desire or a love for the stage, it's perverted into some sort of selfish,
[06:28:59] like selfish, like, like, why can't people just enjoy performing?
[06:29:05] Why can't we do that?
[06:29:07] Why can't we?
[06:29:08] What is this weird homophobic perversion of talking to me?
[06:29:14] the home of all of you. My performances is an integral part of your sexuality.
[06:29:22] Don't let this motherfucker lie to you. All of the people on the stage have told me individually
[06:29:28] that they have had a wonderful time. I mean, I liked being on stage. I just hate every other
[06:29:35] element associated with touring. You hate every element of anything. It's not fucking sitting
[06:29:41] right in that fucking chair right there. Okay, so it's time to show a little love for, I'm trying
[06:29:47] to show you life and what life could be. Okay? Yeah, I've seen it. I don't like it. Also,
[06:29:53] also, as is the case with all of my fucking travels, anytime I'm in front of a live audience,
[06:29:59] I get canceled. Well, I got the one that decided I did not have Charlie Kirk in the run of show.
[06:30:06] Yes, it was. No one was, it wasn't on the run of show. Cutie just egged me on.
[06:30:13] I don't even know if Cutie did. I think the crowd man did it. All I'm saying is, look, yes,
[06:30:21] I convince everybody to do this, but I, you're talking about Will fucking, you know what I'm
[06:30:30] most disappointed is Will loves to fucking stage more than anybody and he tries to pretend
[06:30:37] like he doesn't. Are you fucking kidding me? He was born for the stage. The only person
[06:30:42] that can convince me that she literally would never want to do anything ever again in front
[06:30:47] of people is Cutie.
[06:30:48] Wait, not me?
[06:30:49] No, you love it too. You're a whore when you get up there. I see you. I see the twinkle
[06:30:54] in your eye when you get out there and the crowd starts cheering. You're a whore for
[06:30:58] the stage. Cutie is the only one where I authentically believe that if she was never on a stage again,
[06:31:03] she would be perfectly happy. You and Will, I'm not fucking convinced. I'm not convinced.
[06:31:08] Guys, uh, last leg, last leg of the tour is in Los Angeles, California, fear or no tour.fearand.com.
[06:31:16] That's right. That's right. Tickets are, tickets are selling out like hot cakes, but here's the thing.
[06:31:21] Listen, listen, listen.
[06:31:24] It's the last ever instance of this happening.
[06:31:27] It may be the last fucking tour.
[06:31:29] It may be the last tour.
[06:31:30] You know, Austin knows that he's never
[06:31:33] going to let this be the last tour.
[06:31:36] But he knows he can maybe get people to purchase tickets
[06:31:39] last second for FOMO.
[06:31:40] So he's leaning into the idea that this is possibly
[06:31:43] the last tour.
[06:31:43] You are not slick.
[06:31:47] Well, look, you know what?
[06:31:48] We may never do a tour again.
[06:31:50] doesn't mean we won't do a show here and there, you know what I mean?
[06:31:53] I'm gay and Lebanese.
[06:31:56] I was just, you were just speaking on my stream saying.
[06:31:59] Okay.
[06:32:00] I think it's white people.
[06:32:02] But yeah, we can't, like guys, I'll be honest, I'd love to do it.
[06:32:06] But you know, look, I think I gotta be respectful to everybody else.
[06:32:09] I'll put up another bet sometime.
[06:32:12] But yeah, last chance to see Ferran tomorrow.
[06:32:14] I'm never, wait, are you coming here tonight?
[06:32:17] Oh, oh, oh, so you are in LA?
[06:32:22] Yeah.
[06:32:23] What the fuck?
[06:32:24] Look, I have to, I have to stay in a hotel period.
[06:32:28] So you motherfucker.
[06:32:30] So when I.
[06:32:32] I told you I did not put that karaoke song in Q.
[06:32:35] Do not blame me.
[06:32:37] No, no, no, no, we didn't blame anybody.
[06:32:39] I mean, it's my fault.
[06:32:41] I got.
[06:32:42] blame anybody I mean it's my fault I I got I got goaded into it I wanted to
[06:32:51] sing a Disney song yeah you did she wanted to sing a whole new world that's
[06:32:55] right and there's somebody anyway here's what I was gonna say you motherfucker you
[06:33:02] yeah you yes by the way when I come to mess yeah I know when I come to fucking
[06:33:07] Portland, Oregon. I stay in your dang house. Yeah, I've seen your house a lot in the lightest
[06:33:15] suburb in the United States of America. Okay, rights, bill, population, like it's so white
[06:33:24] that maybe Austin does actually get looked at as like potential Lebanese. I'm there for the diversity.
[06:33:31] They needed diverse, you know, and then and then this motherfucker
[06:33:37] And I I won't lie to you. It was the worst food I've ever had in Portland like Portland the food was so bad
[06:33:43] All the food that I ordered was so bad the food that we ordered at night after the show was abysmal disastrous
[06:33:50] I don't want to talk about like about food like this, but it was just no Portland actually has great food
[06:33:54] It's just you can't get it delivered where I live as the problem
[06:33:57] But you gotta go to there's a beautiful steakhouse called ringside steak.
[06:34:02] I don't even want to fucking hear about this right now.
[06:34:05] The day after you left, Kirk and I went to a beautiful dinner together at the ringside
[06:34:09] steakhouse.
[06:34:10] There's no way you would have had time, you didn't have time to do any of that.
[06:34:14] So I would have taken you out to a great, great, great, uh.
[06:34:19] But yeah, my anger is I have to stay in your fucking house.
[06:34:23] You don't have to stay in my, I mean, actually, I don't know why.
[06:34:26] I don't know why I'm advocating for you to stay in my house.
[06:34:28] Yeah, I'm damned if I do. I'm damned if I don't.
[06:34:30] Sometimes I feel like a nuisance because that's the way everybody talks to me.
[06:34:35] And, um, wait, I'm getting, I'm getting a separate call from
[06:34:40] former intercept DC bureau chief Ryan Grimm one second.
[06:34:46] Oh, I had to, I hung up on him. I hung up on all texts.
[06:34:49] You hung up on him.
[06:34:50] All right. Well, I'm, because I'm live, he probably thinks I'm not live right now.
[06:34:53] He's not calling because he's watching.
[06:34:55] You're talking to organ one representative Austin show. Look, I, uh, no, but genuinely,
[06:35:01] I mean this, I feel like a nuisance. Your house constantly, like my boyfriend was already there
[06:35:08] this week. I was like, let me take him a break. So I decided every like once a month, I'll just
[06:35:13] like pop myself a hotel and I won't, I'll come to LA and I won't bother anybody and I'll, I'll
[06:35:18] leave. You know, that's what I do. You left my room a fucking mess. I took photos. Oh yeah. No,
[06:35:23] No, I did. I did. I was like, yeah.
[06:35:25] Dude, I found a Zim in the bed.
[06:35:28] Wait, what?
[06:35:30] Well, I didn't find it. Okay, we got this. We got this guy that, uh, we have that cat sits for us.
[06:35:36] And, um, he likes to-
[06:35:39] In the bed?
[06:35:41] Yeah, like, in the fucking bed. In the bed.
[06:35:45] Yeah, you like that, don't you?
[06:35:47] Yeah, how do you fucking like that, bitch?
[06:35:50] The funniest part, the funniest part is, you know, I went to your bedside table and bro,
[06:35:58] you brought your own snacks.
[06:36:00] Yeah, always.
[06:36:01] You bought your own snacks.
[06:36:02] Those aren't snacks that were, he brought his own protein snacks.
[06:36:07] Yeah, always.
[06:36:08] In the, in the side of the bed.
[06:36:11] Yeah, everywhere I go, everywhere I go, I bring my own snacks.
[06:36:14] I bring my own smart sweets and I bring my own protein supplements and protein snacks.
[06:36:20] That's right. That's right. Well, look, last chance to buy your tickets to it up there
[06:36:24] in dot com last tour of the year.
[06:36:29] We have a you bring your own fucking snacks next time instead of stealing.
[06:36:32] Well, I will. I do sometimes that order.
[06:36:36] Yeah, I try to be I try to be as awesome.
[06:36:39] There's people asking in the chat.
[06:36:40] Have you started your improv classes yet?
[06:36:43] Oh, that's so funny.
[06:36:44] That's a great.
[06:36:45] That's a great.
[06:36:46] That's so funny.
[06:36:47] Nobody said that.
[06:36:48] No, no, someone said it.
[06:36:50] Actually, now more and more people are saying it.
[06:36:52] I'm not sure. I'm sure a lot of people are saying it.
[06:36:55] How did they hear about this drama?
[06:36:57] I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We're gonna...
[06:37:00] I'm still that... God, fuck her. You know?
[06:37:04] She had to come ruin my whole meet and greet experience.
[06:37:06] Yeah, I don't like just completely just like seriously.
[06:37:09] Keep it to your fucking self.
[06:37:10] You know, when somebody asks you to say something mean,
[06:37:13] it means you don't say something to me.
[06:37:14] It's like when your girlfriend is like,
[06:37:17] like, I don't even know what it means. I don't even have a girlfriend. So I don't even know
[06:37:21] what it means when you have one. But you know what I'm saying? It's like with your girlfriend.
[06:37:24] You know when they test you, you don't want to test you. It pisses me off. So, um,
[06:37:30] Is this the product?
[06:37:32] QT, you know what I'm talking about? No, ask him about girlfriends more. I've had one before.
[06:37:37] QT, actually. I've had a couple. Yeah, he's not a, he's not a gold star gay.
[06:37:42] No, I had one girlfriend, so, oh, is this misogyny?
[06:37:48] Fuck, well, whoops, I take it back.
[06:37:54] It's also when your boyfriend tests you too, because men can do it too.
[06:37:58] Men can do it.
[06:38:00] It's like men probably do it more.
[06:38:04] Good save Austin, good save.
[06:38:06] Yeah, thank you.
[06:38:07] Men probably do this more than women.
[06:38:08] I don't know why.
[06:38:09] Well, man, do it exclusively where they test you. You know what I'm saying?
[06:38:14] So it's just a human thing. Let's just who gives it? Genders a construct.
[06:38:18] Genders a complete construct, like just top to bottom. I don't even know why I got into it.
[06:38:22] I don't know why I talking about gender. Fuck it. We're just all, you know what I'm saying?
[06:38:28] Who gives a shit? I don't give a damn. Anyway, anyways, tickets off today.
[06:38:35] All right, go back to your tour dot fear and dot com ladies and gentlemen.
[06:38:41] All right.
[06:38:42] Peace out by Austin son of a bitch.
[06:38:46] He's in Los Angeles already.
[06:38:47] He didn't even tell me he's not even here.
[06:38:52] I wish I could tell you that that was a bit.
[06:38:56] That's just how he is all the time.
[06:39:04] is just how he is. Isn't that fucking crazy? What is this? What the fuck is this? The Iraqi
[06:39:23] Tiziant Dinesh is about to drop the lower LUMER files.
[06:39:33] Anyway.
[06:39:39] I'm done for the day, folks.
[06:39:41] I'm tired.
[06:39:45] We will have more fun reacts
[06:39:47] and more fun stuff in general tomorrow.
[06:39:49] less of the uh fuck-a-san show
[06:39:59] okay
[06:40:03] and call ryan text ryan guys i'm gonna do that after the fucking stream what's wrong with you
[06:40:10] y'all are so funny dude thanks guys
[06:40:15] thank you thank you for informing me on what to do
[06:40:19] But yeah, you have to 20,000 personal systems. Yeah. Yeah, the absolute worst PAs of all
[06:40:36] time.
[06:40:38] Let's be real. Um, all right, like I said, what a fear and calm tomorrow Los Angeles last leg of the world or
[06:40:54] crazy. Is that a world tour or your girls for question? Many people are asking themselves.
[06:41:08] Okay.
[06:41:10] Yes, I'm drinking more water, don't worry.
[06:41:15] Peace, everybody. Bye-bye.
[06:41:38] Sonny Los Angeles, California, says a son
[06:41:46] Stunlock to the, stunlock to the top, it's just begun
[06:41:54] Cause there is again a son is streaming
[06:42:01] A son is streaming
[06:42:03] There is, again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[06:42:15] Leave me when a Chinese train tells me a place
[06:42:22] Son in a sminch hat and loves, giving greenings grace
[06:42:28] Zoran went in NYC, walked to back with the force
[06:42:36] The Rogan of the left to me, a dumb him, both still on course
[06:42:45] The Charlie Kirk assassination, the fear and on life show
[06:42:52] Eight full fucking years of this, I'm planning more to go
[06:43:00] Doing fun stuff tomorrow, throw PBS up on the screen
[06:43:08] A man made for reaction brought to you by this life's dream
[06:43:17] Cause there he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[06:43:28] There he is again, a son is streaming, a son is streaming
[06:43:39] Can't doubt the DNC IRL will march the good
[06:43:45] Commed in the proud, the candor, the sharp down people's throats
[06:43:52] CBS Israeli news, a coup, a regime falls
[06:43:59] A full-blown fascist takeover and still the duty calls
[06:44:07] Total radicalization coming out to sea
[06:44:14] The system where he'll always fail
[06:44:19] It's up to you and me
[06:44:22] All these daily streets
[06:44:27] Whether sure or whether long
[06:44:30] I've held millions of people
[06:44:35] Keep it moving right along
[06:44:40] Cause there he is again
[06:44:44] A son is streaming
[06:44:47] A son is streaming
[06:44:50] There he is again
[06:44:54] A son is streaming
[06:44:57] A son is streaming
[06:45:01] But hey, what can you say?
[06:45:04] And that's BBS for you
[06:45:07] But he'll play games real soon
[06:45:10] Just you wait
[06:45:14] Say hey, what can you say
[06:45:17] And that's BBS for you
[06:45:20] But he'll move on real soon
[06:45:23] Just you wait
[06:45:28] What can you say
[06:45:30] And that's BBS for you
[06:45:32] But he'll pull your lawns real soon, just you wait
[06:45:37] Sha-da-da, sha-da-da, sha-da-da-da-da-da-da
[06:45:41] What can you say, hey, that's PBS for you
[06:45:45] But he'll do just the highest real soon, just you wait
[06:45:52] But hey, what can you say, hey, that's PBS for you
[06:45:58] Brought up by viewers like you
[06:46:01] Just you wait
[06:46:04] Just you wait