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09-07-2026 · 6h 19m

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[00:11:07] Anyway, god damn it I hate that like Brandon says anyway so much that anytime I say anyway
[00:11:13] you guys start saying oh it's just like Joe Biden.
[00:11:16] I say anyway a lot.
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[00:11:59] Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, everybody love you all.
[00:12:04] It's an honor to be able to serve you through and breaks in the top of the
[00:12:08] hour.
[00:12:08] What's going on, everybody?
[00:12:10] We're sorry.
[00:12:11] I hope you're having a fantastic evening, afternoon, pre-noon, no matter where you
[00:12:14] are in the world, in the Sompiker, in the Stas, and our broadcast coming to
[00:12:17] you live from rainy California, Los Angeles on Labor Day.
[00:12:21] And right off the rip, let me just start by explaining to you something.
[00:12:25] You know what it this means.
[00:12:26] You know what it means when it's raining in California.
[00:12:28] It's no longer sunny. It's been raining for the last week apparently even while I was gone for over the weekend
[00:12:34] It was raining. So the internet is gonna be dog shit. Okay when it rains in California
[00:12:41] When it rains in California
[00:12:44] Two things happen. Okay traffic accidents. Okay bit rates already down by the way, it's incredible
[00:12:50] It's incredible to to be back in Los Angeles, California and the bit rates swinging in
[00:12:57] in the industrialized post-industrial world in the developed world in the United States of America, in Los Angeles, California,
[00:13:06] on stolen Tongva territory. It is 9.7. That's Monday, September 7, 2026. It's a very big week this week.
[00:13:14] We're going to be talking about all of it. In two days, the Republican National Convention is starting.
[00:13:19] The Kirk aversaries happening in three days and then of course in four days. It's 9 11
[00:13:26] It's the 25th anniversary 9 11. We'll be getting to all of that and more
[00:13:30] but
[00:13:32] Yeah, folks, we got it. We got it. We're we're here. We're live
[00:13:36] We're alive is the part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news
[00:13:40] There's not much going on in my life. Obviously
[00:13:43] I'm a shut-ass loser
[00:13:45] Um, I did I don't know why this is not loading chatter
[00:13:52] It's just not even loading that's awesome. I love that dude
[00:13:56] I love I love that I just got started on the broadcast today, and it's already my internet is already completely destroyed. It's just
[00:14:04] in any case folks folks what the hell is this okay maybe the link is not working maybe you
[00:14:20] sent me a busted link I don't know but folks we're live we're live and hopefully things
[00:14:29] will work hopefully things will work out inshallah friendly request to leave a
[00:14:37] buffer when ending stream IRL wait why but normally what I was supposed to do is
[00:14:45] I was supposed to get on a plane early this morning but yesterday we ended the
[00:14:49] broadcast at the DSA convention and and got on an earlier flight and I flew
[00:14:56] and last night I went to sleep and I woke up early I worked out I feel much
[00:15:03] more refreshed I feel good that I'm back at home base always better
[00:15:15] but okay so the link doesn't work okay so the link was busted it wasn't even my
[00:15:21] internet that's busted even though my internet is busted it's the link that
[00:15:24] was busted. Okay. Did I say the DSA convention? Sorry, I wasn't at the DSA convention. I was
[00:15:32] at Socialism Conference. I was at the Socialism Conference with Haymarket Books. Maroon suit
[00:15:46] controversy. What's the Maroon suit controversy? You said you worked out, but we didn't get
[00:15:53] I don't want to post about body fascism. That's why I'm not I'm not posting my workouts. Um, oh my god
[00:15:58] Someone's gonna clip that and be like, he's sincere. Just to me. You have a private jet already. I do not
[00:16:05] But that's funny. That's funny to think that I have private. I do travel so much
[00:16:10] Feels like I have one but no
[00:16:13] I'm on the on the people's private jet, which is of course
[00:16:17] Public transit, which is air travel, which is you know commercial airfare, which is you know business class
[00:16:23] with no life-let seats. So yeah, if it is bomb, thank you.
[00:16:34] You getting those airline points? I think so. Do you get recognized traveling? Oh my god,
[00:16:43] it's been crazy. It's been absolutely crazy. Yes, we're gonna be talking about my op,
[00:16:50] linking up with my lover and I will not elaborate on which is which but I think
[00:16:59] you guys can figure it out. Someone who, hold on.
[00:17:10] I'm already on my redundance on the internet today.
[00:17:25] That's great.
[00:17:26] I love dude.
[00:17:27] I love it.
[00:17:29] I love living in Los Angeles, California.
[00:17:32] I love living in a third world country with a Gucci belt slapped onto it.
[00:17:36] I just I genuinely I'm drunk on calling Airplace public transit this is deregulated me. Yeah
[00:17:47] Yeah, it's wrong burgundy. I know it is wrong burgundy. I look like wrong burgundy. You're not wrong. That's the point
[00:18:01] Oh, there it is. Hell yeah. Okay. Thank you for the tweet. Thank you for the blast off memes
[00:18:05] Let's get it started. But yeah, I worked out this morning. I feel refreshed. Um,
[00:18:12] I feel pretty good, but I'm sure that will, uh, that will get destroyed very quickly. That will get
[00:18:20] owned very quickly. Uh, how dare I feel good about myself? Um, it will turn into quite back
[00:18:27] I cowered, what the fuck's this?
[00:18:29] But actually, I'm gonna go ahead and air him.
[00:18:32] Hassan, grown ass man, text and only lowercase.
[00:18:36] And like, you just, why are you,
[00:18:39] are you afraid of the capital letters?
[00:18:40] Like just turn your auto caps on.
[00:18:42] Like start a sentence with a capital letter.
[00:18:46] I feel like you shouldn't type in lowercase anymore.
[00:18:53] Interesting.
[00:18:55] Interesting take.
[00:18:56] I'm an anti-capitalist through and through to the bone. Okay. That's right.
[00:19:02] Not even in, not even in capital letters. You know what I'm talking about?
[00:19:07] I don't even visit nations capitals. When I do, I spit on the ground.
[00:19:12] That's how much of an anti-capitalist I am. Oh,
[00:19:15] also I finished the movie checkist crazy movie, uh,
[00:19:18] crazy anti-Soviet movie from 1992,
[00:19:22] I believe, very good movie as well, a very wild movie, highly recommended if you are interested
[00:19:31] in that sort of thing.
[00:19:32] It talks about like the period of the revolutionary period where like the Soviets were just murk
[00:19:41] in people left and right, you know what I mean?
[00:19:43] 1992 film tells the story of a, it's a 1992 Russian-French historical drama film directed
[00:19:52] by, I can't even show you the movie. There's a lot of nudity for the record, but I can't
[00:19:59] even show you the actual, the poster. There's a lot. But yeah, The Checkist is a 1992 Russian
[00:20:11] French historical drama film directed by Alexander Rososkin, based on the 1923 short
[00:20:16] story by Vladimir Zazubrin. It tells the story of a bloody work and downfall of a Soviet
[00:20:23] Cheka security official involved in mass executions during the Russian Civil War. It was screened
[00:20:28] in the Un Certan Regal section at the 1992 Cannes Film Festival. But it's gruesome. It's brutal.
[00:20:37] But it's also in a way, it's a very beautifully shot movie.
[00:20:42] There is just a I mean it really beats you over the head with this right it really beats you over
[00:20:51] the head with the like systematic slaughter check of the secret police yeah.
[00:20:54] I think you'll like it.
[00:21:01] Sure, we'll take a look at it.
[00:21:14] But it was good.
[00:21:16] It's a good movie.
[00:21:18] Gobbling Nazi propaganda.
[00:21:19] Okay.
[00:21:20] All right, brother.
[00:21:21] Calm down.
[00:21:22] Okay.
[00:21:23] It's a beautifully shot movie.
[00:21:26] It's not, you know, you're not supposed to watch it
[00:21:28] and be like, wow, I really hate the USSR.
[00:21:31] I mean, I guess that's the intention,
[00:21:32] but there was still something to appreciate within it.
[00:21:45] But yeah, it's an art movie.
[00:21:53] What? You did not pronounce Chequie correctly? Three Chequie, no Chequie is the is the secret police.
[00:22:10] No, you can't show it to your 70 year old grandma.
[00:22:17] New lip slop just dropped.
[00:22:19] What is this?
[00:22:26] How does a rapper, immigrant, son of Indian Ugandans?
[00:22:32] I am filling all these road pops, holes. I am filling all these road pops, holes.
[00:22:37] Yo, I'm all around the studio.
[00:22:40] Will never be the same old.
[00:22:46] Zora Mamdani? I like him.
[00:22:51] Amazing.
[00:22:58] I mean, this is spot on. This is exactly how Lin-Manuel Miranda will make this musical.
[00:23:07] That can't be.
[00:23:09] He's a social-ish from NYC, but he calls me up to just say hi.
[00:23:22] He's so handsome and a real nice guy.
[00:23:26] Another immigrant coming up from Nevada.
[00:23:29] Koval almost asking for someone to bring him to task.
[00:23:32] Sticking the scheming and bezeling and shitty deeds.
[00:23:34] Let this guy from Queens unsee him.
[00:23:36] I'll take me all from him like a way to seek the convict check his blazer bet this dirty
[00:23:41] money in his pocket.
[00:23:43] It must be nice.
[00:23:45] It must be nice to have the one percent on your side.
[00:23:50] There's a million things I have to pay in that way.
[00:23:54] She.
[00:23:55] What's she made me man?
[00:23:57] So I'm gonna make my money.
[00:24:02] So, I mean, that is unironically, lip-slop, and it will happen.
[00:24:10] Also, I think the most at odds I ever felt was Zoran, wasn't even the Jessica Tista,
[00:24:17] wasn't the SRG.
[00:24:21] It was when he did that FaceTime with Lin-Manuel Miranda, and it made me, you know, I mean,
[00:24:32] It made me realize how similar they are like they're both, you know
[00:24:40] New York area
[00:24:42] Liberals with a with a flair for a complete non-guilt
[00:24:48] I
[00:24:56] He just there they have a flair for the drama. What is this? I think this was for you the Lindsay Clancy trial dude
[00:25:04] We'll be talking about that. Let me blast off real quick because I think Twitter has gone insane
[00:25:09] I think which is you know, I
[00:25:12] Don't know when they were actually normal, but
[00:25:15] But the Lindsay Clancy story has brought out the weirdos.
[00:25:21] I had avoided it.
[00:25:24] I had avoided the weirdos because I didn't really talk about it that much.
[00:25:27] I didn't really cover it.
[00:25:28] I was just like kind of following along.
[00:25:31] And I briefly got involved with it.
[00:25:36] And I guess if you say that like, you know, you think Lindsay Clancy actually murdered
[00:25:42] her children, but most likely it was, you know, she snapped. That means that you, that
[00:25:51] means that you're defending Lindsey Clinton. I don't know. I don't know what, like, what
[00:25:55] the expectation is. I don't know what, because I was saying, like, I don't think the husband
[00:25:59] did it, right? Because I've seen that. Like, I've seen people say that it was the husband
[00:26:04] who did it. And I was like, no, that's pretty crazy. I don't think that's the
[00:26:07] case, but you're both throwing her under the bus and defending her. I mean, but that's, guys,
[00:26:17] three kids were murdered, you know, and, and yes, I think the, the highest likelihood is that it was,
[00:26:23] it was Lindsay Clancy, right? It's just a matter of like, is it, I was part of psychosis or is it
[00:26:31] just, you know, did she just like plan it out and then also plan to like kill herself
[00:26:37] afterwards, but fail to do so, right? Also, that is, you know, what the jury's perspective
[00:26:46] was, it seems. I don't know. Like, it's just very strange. I'm not, I'm not like defending
[00:26:54] Lindsey. I'm not defending the crimes that took place. And I guess it's just a matter
[00:27:00] of how people approach the story where they're like, no, you have to say like, this is
[00:27:05] how women are or something. I don't fucking know. It's gender war shit. 100%. It's gender
[00:27:13] wars, base boosted. It's kind of crazy too, because it's like, like there is, there's
[00:27:18] a little bit for everybody in this, right? There's a little bit of, there's a little
[00:27:23] bit of insanity for everybody in this story. It's great. It's wonderful. I also found
[00:27:33] very strange that Pauli Market got in on it. I guess like it's because I covered it at all.
[00:27:41] Because the entire drama stems from someone taking a snapshot of my stream title, or not my
[00:27:50] stream title, sorry, my YouTube thumbbo. And then just claiming that I'm defending Lindsay Clancy.
[00:27:58] But I guess I'm, you know, I'm defending the rule of law. I don't know. I'm defending the
[00:28:06] American court system. Is that what it is? But, uh, it was very strange. It's very strange.
[00:28:15] They were like, a son piker comes out and support a Lindsey classy. Like you think people
[00:28:19] are going to believe he's pro killing children. He's not Israeli. Yeah, but it's, but it
[00:28:25] It is funny because like, yeah, I don't know. I said, this one confused me. I'm not gonna
[00:28:34] lie. I guess they're stress testing. How much they can lie about my positions on this website.
[00:28:45] The gender war shit is about the most poof from above male tick I've heard from you.
[00:28:49] Women are having an important combo about postpartum psychosis and the neglect of
[00:28:53] mothers. No, no, no. No, it is still, wait, what bro? Don't call the convo on the women's
[00:29:01] side of this is not gender wars. No, no. First of all, I talked about this stuff.
[00:29:07] I talked about this stuff. What I'm referencing here is like how it has turned into a gender war
[00:29:14] conversation where men are just like, not even men, but just like right wingers are saying,
[00:29:18] this is why women can't vote. Women shouldn't be able to vote and shit. What are you talking
[00:29:22] about. And the element of gender wars necessarily is, Brock is right. Okay. The gender war dynamic
[00:29:31] in this is that there are people who are saying that, like, you know, Lindsay Clancy didn't do it,
[00:29:39] right? Or it was possibly the husband, like there's a little bit of madness for everybody out
[00:29:47] there. It's not to the same degree, but there's no moral equivalence between the way that people
[00:29:55] are approaching the story. Yeah, but if you're talking about postpartum psychosis, postpartum
[00:30:00] depression, how little people know or understand this issue, because it seems so, because it
[00:30:06] is heinous. It's the most heinous thing that you can do. There's also the element of maternal
[00:30:11] roles, right? Like you're supposed to defend your children. That's your job as a woman.
[00:30:16] Like that's the societal ideal. And therefore this kind of like breaks people's brains.
[00:30:23] This is like the most heinous thing you can do.
[00:30:33] Caroline's misogynist spouting bile about Lizzie Clay's child. They don't care about the
[00:30:36] law. They don't care about protecting children. They don't care about justice or safety
[00:30:38] or whatever else they're posturing about. They care about punishing women. They use
[00:30:41] someone like Lindsey Clancy has a weapon to further attack women as a class to stigmatize
[00:30:44] postpartum disorders and maternal struggles and to make it more difficult for mothers
[00:30:47] and for all women to receive the support they need.
[00:30:50] Yeah, good take from Caroline.
[00:30:52] Caroline from women.
[00:30:55] Socialism conference needs to stop filming the event.
[00:30:57] Yeah, so we'll be talking about that as well.
[00:31:02] Your colleague wants to revoke the 19th Amendment over this.
[00:31:05] Yeah, my Asmongold video is still getting comments from people who say that I've
[00:31:07] misunderstood him and all his fans.
[00:31:08] No, I didn't if you watch him. You either have to excuse discussing any other things
[00:31:12] He says or you outright endorse them as mingle says he totally against democracy fall on the Lindsey Cranacee mistrial wants to remove
[00:31:18] 90% of voters and unveil seven plat step step seven step plan to provoke the 19th amendment
[00:31:23] Reason why we can't have nice things universal suffers the root of all problems in this country
[00:31:27] Yeah, this is like straight up take talk bait like this is what I was talking about when I say gender warship
[00:31:33] I think nowadays
[00:31:35] Nowadays, let's be real, every issue like this is like things like this, you can't just, you know,
[00:31:48] idly stand by and react to or watch as it unfolds, like everyone has a take, it's the take economy,
[00:31:56] and those takes are going to be base boosted. Some of the most insane versions of these are
[00:32:01] They're going to be base boosted by the algorithms and people want to fucking kill one another.
[00:32:06] And they also want to derive like some kind of anti-women policies out of it.
[00:32:12] That's just how it is.
[00:32:14] There's also obviously a lot of interest and stuff like this due to true crime as well.
[00:32:18] Let's be real that plays a role in this.
[00:32:21] People actually look at like real criminal cases happening and always want to find a
[00:32:27] different angle that's more compelling, that's more interesting.
[00:32:30] a lot of investment in this kind of stuff. As well. What? So what you're saying is, is
[00:32:57] Is this a better grift than the focus on meta?
[00:33:00] No, the focus on meta also contributes to this as well, but.
[00:33:04] Pauli market put a bet on it.
[00:33:06] Oh, gross.
[00:33:18] I'm a criminal defense attorney.
[00:33:19] Masters used to be following this case very closely.
[00:33:21] What happened in chat about, I don't know if you want to explain things to
[00:33:23] you and check cause there was a lot of missing phone.
[00:33:24] The last time you spoke about it, I just think it'd be good to.
[00:33:26] Well, the insanity in the missing photo actually have a message turning on check previous. Okay, Jay Mershaw. We're we're we're moving on from Lindsay Clancy
[00:33:36] Saga, I just wanted to
[00:33:46] Bro big pockets for doing poly market ads for this
[00:33:49] For the trial, Pockesser Manahirsch apologized for insensitive wrong polymarket Lindsey's
[00:33:55] Clancy sponsor content. I should have known better. Yeah, I God every day, every day we
[00:34:01] move further, we stray further and further away from God. And by God, I don't mean like
[00:34:06] literally God. I just mean just like any semblance of morality. Capitalism has rotted us to
[00:34:15] our very core, we are losing our humanity. We are becoming uglier and uglier every single day.
[00:34:32] I don't know what to say about this honestly. And yes, LeBron James also got on the poly market
[00:34:38] craze. I know fucking bullshit. Cybro, come on, you have billions and billions of dollars. Like,
[00:34:44] you need more, like you really need more. Ignoring the cases, you're gonna make it go away. I
[00:34:57] legit think you should make a deep dive into everything surrounding it. I mean, I covered
[00:35:00] I covered it already and seemingly people's investment into this case is not necessarily
[00:35:17] about the actual incidents that took place.
[00:35:22] It's more so about like how do we make this into a broader conversation about how people
[00:35:27] on one side or the next on this like heinous, active violence that took place. It's kind of like the
[00:35:34] 9-11 conversation, right? Like, it's very clear that right now, most people in the United States of
[00:35:43] America, even like older conservatives, they don't necessarily care about 9-11. They'll lie to you
[00:35:51] if you were to call them out on this issue. They'd be like, how dare you say such a thing?
[00:35:56] Of course we do. Shut the fuck up, right? They would lie to you easily and maybe even lie to
[00:36:03] themselves, right? But overall, the thing that they care about with respect to 9-11 is not like
[00:36:13] who did it, not why it happened, not even offering like a restitution to the victims,
[00:36:19] but more so about advancing a narrative. Advancing a narrative that 9-11 was a
[00:36:25] Islamic crime against the Western world and all Muslims are responsible for it
[00:36:31] Including the fucking mayor of New York who happens to be Muslim including obelisk said who happens to be Muslim like
[00:36:37] Every single Muslim person is responsible for this and
[00:36:41] And 25 years and a failed global war on terror
[00:36:46] That that came after this that cost, you know, trillions of dollars millions of people dead tens of millions of people displaced
[00:36:52] none of that is enough. It's just like we are, we're still going to constantly, we're still
[00:37:00] going to keep squeezing and squeezing and squeezing to get as much juice out of it as possible,
[00:37:05] right? Like that's, that's what it is.
[00:37:18] And in some respects, Lindsay Clancy's case is not about Lindsay Clancy's, you know, about
[00:37:23] of heinous violence, the worst kind of violence that you can ever commit.
[00:37:30] It's more so about like, you know, women's role in society.
[00:37:33] Should they be able to vote?
[00:37:35] Should they be allowed to read?
[00:37:39] I know you saw my comment, I didn't.
[00:37:46] I did not see your comment and then on the other side, there's the, it's like, uh, there's
[00:37:52] an element of true calm associated with it where people are like looking for alternative
[00:37:55] theories.
[00:37:56] Um, it and, uh, and, you know, I feel like it's, uh, every, every single thing, every
[00:38:08] single thing serves the purpose of the ruling class every single moment that people spend
[00:38:15] fighting one another, engaging in gender wars, engaging in Islamophobia, engaging in anti-Semitism,
[00:38:22] engaging in bigotry of all sorts, and dividing the working class is a moment where we are
[00:38:26] not united. We're not logging in. And, yeah, we're just going to keep having our social
[00:38:42] safety nets gutted. That's coming up, by the way, in the aftermath of the midterms. That's
[00:38:49] going to be exciting for people to watch unfold, I guess, when they just completely eviscerate,
[00:38:59] completely destroy our social safety nets. They're already in a state of disrepair. They're already
[00:39:05] in a state, you know, it's devastating.
[00:39:32] bought tickets to see you at Manifestia this Saturday, honestly a little anxious. See you there friend.
[00:39:39] The elite ruling class will still exist under socialism, a more powerful government doesn't
[00:39:42] make those, will still exist under socialism, a more powerful government doesn't make those people
[00:39:48] go away. I don't think, what? Yes, Assam please lock in on this. Brother, we don't even have a
[00:39:54] croma socialism and you're already like, you know, doing post socialist critique. It's awesome.
[00:39:59] I love that. Hey man, I don't know if you know this, but uh, Medicaid is about to be gutted
[00:40:05] And the only reason why we're gutting Medicaid is so that we can justify
[00:40:09] Trillions of dollars of tax cuts for the wealthiest people in American society wealthiest people on the planet
[00:40:15] And you're over here being like well if there was a socialist revolution there would probably still be
[00:40:21] You know the the red version of czarism, right? There would be what about the societal elite that would control, uh everything
[00:40:29] Like, we don't even have, in America, we don't even have fucking health care, dude.
[00:40:37] The average American condition for the super poor in this country is now reflective, is
[00:40:45] now similar to like a Russian peasant living in the countryside.
[00:40:49] The level of education that the average American has is not dissimilar to a peasant
[00:40:54] in an agrarian society, and you're over here being like, well, what if there was
[00:40:57] the Socialist Revolution and then the elite, then the elites, what if the elites were also
[00:41:03] consolidating power around themselves? It's like, okay, man, I'm sure, you know, let's
[00:41:08] cross that bridge when we get there. Okay.
[00:41:13] Um, Gavin Newscom backtracking. I don't care, man. I don't care.
[00:41:25] Oh, I'm so tired. I'm so fucking tired, man. I'm the most tired man in America.
[00:41:34] Fuck Medicaid. Let's talk about body fascism and how fat people are being
[00:41:37] genocide? Yeah, we will briefly cover that as well. There was also, there was also something
[00:41:47] so silly that took place. There are people who spent their entire lives, like, carefully,
[00:41:56] carefully identifying, you know, the eugenicist movement and like engaging in a Marxist
[00:42:02] interpretation of health and everything else. And then they are reduced to like one singular clip
[00:42:11] that's, you know, not even something I agree with necessarily, right? I don't agree with the notion
[00:42:18] that GLP ones are genociding fat people. I don't agree with the notion that, you know, we should
[00:42:25] be as dysgenic as possible. I don't, I don't agree with those things, right? I think we
[00:42:29] should be physically fit. I think everyone should be physically fit. Socialists should be physically
[00:42:34] fit as well and healthy. Having said that, having said that, you know, we are so easy to turn on
[00:42:42] one another. We can't have some, some comradely discourse and, and discussions around these
[00:42:50] sorts of issues and immediately gets highlighted by the right. And then you'll see left is
[00:42:55] is joining in on the pile on to be like, no, I'm not like that.
[00:43:01] It's very frustrating to watch unfold.
[00:43:03] Okay.
[00:43:08] Um, PISS war texts went through a statement.
[00:43:12] This is what we're talking about.
[00:43:14] The incident started with Stu Smith, investigative and analyst of the
[00:43:19] Manhattan Institute.
[00:43:20] His entire job was to sit around during the socialism panel and
[00:43:24] watch what people were saying to try to find some clips that sounded strange to the broader
[00:43:32] American conscious, okay? And he did. And there's plenty of it. Socialism itself is seen as this
[00:43:40] alien concept in America. Our job as socialists is to make this sound not so foreign, feel
[00:43:47] not so foreign. That's one of the things that I appreciate about the way Zoran communicates
[00:43:52] on these issues. It's one of the things that I try to do as well when I'm talking about these issues
[00:43:57] to remind people that socialization has already existed on U.S. soil in American governance.
[00:44:03] And some of our best periods are reflective of a command economy, a central planned economy,
[00:44:08] and also higher degrees of socialization. So, you know, stuff like this, socialism
[00:44:17] being already seen as this like weird, quirky, strange concept that's alien to American tastes
[00:44:26] makes it certainly a little bit more difficult. But this entire panel is about,
[00:44:34] I guess the panel itself was about like health and socialism, right? And I'm not going to engage
[00:44:41] in this like disgusting pile on, that was very clearly designed by Stu Smith of the Manhattan
[00:44:51] Institute of Reactionary Think Tank, right? Yeah, and Sean the Black also correctly points
[00:45:03] it out. He says, honestly, reading some of these responses about the position, put a lot
[00:45:07] of y'all are anti-intellectual. I didn't watch the panel, but I got my synopsis from
[00:45:10] Manhattan Institute right-winger so I can make a value judgment on this person's place in the movement.
[00:45:15] And, um, and he also brought up a good point as well, uh, if socialism con is not the place to
[00:45:20] engage in dialogue, then where is? You don't have to agree with this, but I think it's
[00:45:22] disingenuous to pretend that this is like levying the discussion as record behavior. So
[00:45:27] this is the, the absolutism demonstrated by those who, who consider themselves to be on the
[00:45:32] more pragmatic side, right? So here's the thing, here's the thing. And I love Ryan,
[00:45:39] You know, I love Ryan. It's not a secret. I respect Ryan. I think he does a lot of great work.
[00:45:44] But in certain instances, I think he sees something that he doesn't agree with,
[00:45:50] and then he just like lands on one side on the issue. So everybody hold it together. Okay.
[00:45:59] So let me just start off by saying that regardless of the thought that was put into
[00:46:06] to this panel, regardless of the tireless work
[00:46:12] that this person has engaged on the subject matter,
[00:46:17] I still disagree with them, right?
[00:46:20] And it's pretty obvious that I disagree with them.
[00:46:23] I am Mr. You Should Be Physically Fit, right?
[00:46:26] So just let's get that out of the way, and that's fine.
[00:46:29] That's healthy, that's normal, okay?
[00:46:32] To be able to have reasonable discourse around this issue and to be able to say, I don't
[00:46:39] agree with your assessment, that's healthy and normal.
[00:46:42] That's what I'm saying.
[00:46:43] I'm not saying my position is healthy and normal.
[00:46:45] Well, ironic that I said that.
[00:46:50] So here's the thing.
[00:46:51] Let's start off with the clip and we'll cover the actual conversation around it.
[00:47:00] We'll cover the actual conversation around the clip and how it's been received by people
[00:47:04] and then we'll move on.
[00:47:06] Why hedge your position is healthy and normal?
[00:47:08] I'm not hedging.
[00:47:09] I'm not.
[00:47:10] I'm doing meta-analysis on the discourse and the cruelty directed at people who we disagree
[00:47:16] with.
[00:47:17] People who are our allies that we disagree with.
[00:47:20] Okay?
[00:47:21] I am Mr. You Have to be Physically Fit.
[00:47:26] That much is clear.
[00:47:27] I think I have enough legitimacy in this space as a prominent socialist who also prominently
[00:47:34] posts meat pics on the timeline and works out every single fucking day and urges his
[00:47:40] audience to do the same.
[00:47:42] So let's take a look at this clip and the surrounding conversation and I'll give you
[00:47:46] what my position is.
[00:47:47] You have to give up.
[00:47:49] If you disagree with them, how could they possibly be an ally?
[00:47:52] Oh, great.
[00:47:53] This is a sarcastic.
[00:47:54] Yeah.
[00:47:55] No nuanced feelings or opinions on people allowed.
[00:47:56] the agreement with allies a lot, exactly.
[00:47:59] The fantasy of being fitter than the fascists.
[00:48:03] It's not just that it's cringe or strategically bad.
[00:48:06] So it is.
[00:48:12] I think it's also politically revealing.
[00:48:15] Fitness is a measure of relative disposability under capitalism.
[00:48:20] Our task is not to become less disposable, to become more useful to the ruling order.
[00:48:26] order. What we all need to be doing is rejecting disposability in all of its forms. The point
[00:48:34] is not to beat the fascists at their own game. It is not to lay a better claim on their own
[00:48:41] territory by being fitter, more eugenic. In fact, the more dysgenic, the better, I think.
[00:48:52] is not a contest between optimized and properly prepared bodies. That idea is fascist in and
[00:48:59] of itself and it raises the history of lost struggles around the world.
[00:49:05] Is this what engaging in too much theory does without reading to you? No, this person has
[00:49:09] read more books than you. This person has thought about this issue more than you. You can still
[00:49:13] disagree with them, which I do for the record. I disagree with the overarching argument. The
[00:49:23] overarching argument is to basically take something that fascist put forward as the
[00:49:33] importance of aesthetics, the importance of being physically fit, and then just like
[00:49:36] reversing it for no reason. That's something that I also don't understand. Sometimes it's
[00:49:41] better to just refuse to abide by the opposition's framing entirely. I think one of the things
[00:49:47] that we do on the left is we'll take something that people have identified within fascist
[00:49:56] movements or something that people have identified within the capitalist structure and we oppose
[00:50:00] it, and that must mean that we actually believe the inverse of it, right? This is
[00:50:05] not the case. I think to say it is good to be physically fit is not necessarily a brave
[00:50:11] take. It's not necessarily a bad take or a good take. It's just, it's just a take.
[00:50:17] It's just a thing, right? It's just a part of human existence. So instead of taking
[00:50:25] a hyper focus that fascist put on the way that their bodies look, the aesthetics
[00:50:33] and whatnot and then decide no it's actually better to be disgenic what we
[00:50:36] should be you know focusing on is being as healthy as we possibly can be
[00:50:41] right
[00:50:42] being fat doesn't mean you're not physically fit holy shit that's not the
[00:50:45] argument
[00:50:46] okay
[00:50:47] that's not that's not at least the argument that she's presenting the
[00:50:50] argument she's presenting is specifically to be disgenic
[00:50:56] um
[00:50:58] and and but that's not the entire argument anyway so here
[00:51:02] uh...
[00:51:03] piss vortex a protect survivor uh... went through the panel and summarize that
[00:51:07] and i think he gives it a fair shake the correct parts which in all fairness
[00:51:09] caught comprise the majority of the discussion or as follows
[00:51:12] make america healthy again rfk jr cd oil anti-vax bullshit as fascist hokam
[00:51:16] the obesity epidemic in america
[00:51:18] is the result of our food systems priorities prioritized uh...
[00:51:21] priorities of cost-cutting profit-maximizing hijacking
[00:51:24] uh... of libidinal desire rather than the actual need
[00:51:27] poor people are the most susceptible to this form of exploitation rather than
[00:51:30] change the systems or the economic system responsible for force-feeding people corn
[00:51:34] syrup slop health fascism predicates on healthiness is a moral failing that must be socially punished
[00:51:39] as the generous see this social punishment and ostracization as a method of reshaping
[00:51:45] the self rather than addressing the root systemic cause is a mirror of how fascism
[00:51:49] operates in general across society positioning poverty as moral badness and access to wealth
[00:51:54] and social prestige as moral goodness. This is one of the foundational problems
[00:51:59] like American with the American understanding of wealth and prosperity. Poverty is a moral failure.
[00:52:07] Wealth is morally good. You're morally righteous. You deserve to be wealthy. You did something good
[00:52:12] to get there. Or you are, your goodness is reflected in your financial success.
[00:52:18] This is an idiotic concept that many Americans, unfortunately, believe. And in the health field,
[00:52:22] they're doing something similar. If you're fat, you're not only a loser, but you're also
[00:52:27] Immoral and not only that but also your fatness is permanent your immorality
[00:52:33] associated with your fatness is seen as a
[00:52:37] Permanent failing that's precisely the reason why when people when fat people go to the fucking gym. They still get bullied, right?
[00:52:43] Like they'll be like oh dude you you you were fat at one point in your life
[00:52:47] So fuck you you have to brandish yourself with that you have to brand yourself with that immorality that failing
[00:52:53] And for the rest of your life, that's why people look at GLP1 Agnes, you know, the Osempics
[00:53:00] and the Ligoves and the Zepbows and everything else is like also a cheat code.
[00:53:05] You're cheating.
[00:53:06] Why?
[00:53:07] Because you're immoral.
[00:53:08] Why?
[00:53:09] Because you were fat at some point in your life.
[00:53:10] And it was your immorality that caused you to be fat, morally degenerate, a fucking
[00:53:15] loser, right?
[00:53:16] So even if you take care of it by working hard, you know, or even if you take care of
[00:53:23] it, even if you actually overcome this thing by using medicine that you cheated regardless,
[00:53:30] and that immorality should remain.
[00:53:32] So that's the attitude that people have, and it's fucked up, and it's stupid, and
[00:53:37] people shouldn't have that attitude.
[00:53:39] Right?
[00:53:40] Well, true, none of this is particularly new or controversial as people have been running
[00:53:43] the moralization and ritual torture of poor people with bad diets, at least since the biggest loser
[00:53:47] was on air. Nevertheless, this gets completely overshadowed in the public discourse surrounding
[00:53:51] the panel by the bad parts, which are of course clipped in mocked by reactionaries,
[00:53:54] such as in the post below. There's the one clip about how GLP1 agonists are genociding fat
[00:54:00] people or just another version of the genocide that fat people are enduring or something like
[00:54:05] like that. It's exaggerated. It's an exaggerated claim, okay? That's the, that's what it is,
[00:54:12] right?
[00:54:13] Speaker's claim that since attempted to be healthy without addressing root systemic
[00:54:17] cause of unhealthiness to revolution requires accepting passively on some level that poor
[00:54:21] health is an individual moral failing slash that it can't be overcome individually.
[00:54:26] It should not be attempted at all. This leads one of the speakers to bizarrely
[00:54:29] state jokingly that the more disgenic you are, the better. So I think it wasn't
[00:54:33] sincere. That's not like a serious position. That's not a serious position demonstrated
[00:54:42] by the thinkers on this panel, but good luck getting that position across because it goes
[00:54:47] along with the attitudes demonstrated by many who will never want to understand a different
[00:54:55] point of view on this issue, right? I mean, it's, it's a, it's a, and if you're asking
[00:55:04] me what my position is, it's just, it's, that's a ridiculous statement, right? The more
[00:55:07] disjointed you are, the better is not. It's, it's, it's this thing that we sometimes do
[00:55:12] on the life where we, like I said, flip the script and we look at something that
[00:55:17] like fascists are posturing on and then we decide the inverse of it must be true
[00:55:23] and we must ride for the inverse of whatever the fascist is representing, right?
[00:55:30] I think ultimately a lot of people fail to comprehend.
[00:55:33] Okay.
[00:55:34] Falling for Stu Smith outrage bait.
[00:55:36] Wait, what?
[00:55:36] I'm not doing that.
[00:55:39] I'm explaining to you my position on this, which is very different than that.
[00:55:44] One thing that I think, um, one thing that I think that people, uh, maybe
[00:55:51] sometimes on the left, get wrong, is, is, is, where do I
[00:55:58] begin? How do I put this? Like, this is something that
[00:56:02] happens with, I think, disability activism in general. And
[00:56:05] that is, you know, when you, when you associate, like, the
[00:56:11] feeling of, of sickness, or when you associate disease, or
[00:56:17] an illness with negative, with the negativity, right? Like, oh, you will use the term lame,
[00:56:25] for example. That's technically an ableist slur, right? Lame means you have a problem with your
[00:56:31] gate born out of some kind of issue that you have, right? And over the years, the etymology
[00:56:37] and the understanding of what lame means has moved away from being considered this,
[00:56:42] this, this, um, the ableist language and instead just means you're uncool, right?
[00:56:51] The way that we function as society as social animals requires us to use universalist values
[00:56:59] and principles and of course there's always going to be need for pejoratives to signal
[00:57:04] that something is bad and that badness doesn't come from the fact that the average human
[00:57:09] being looks at someone who is experiencing some kind of medical issue and associate that
[00:57:15] immediately with immorality or negativity, it actually stems from the fact that we remember
[00:57:21] our sickly moments from our personal experiences and associate that with the negative feelings
[00:57:29] that we have about being sick. Okay? Do you understand? A lot of people just say,
[00:57:36] No. If you're engaging in Able's language of any sort, if you're using any pejorative,
[00:57:41] you're saying, oh, this is psychotic, this is sociopathic, whatever you're doing,
[00:57:46] you're doing a disservice to the neuroatypicals in your community and all the stuff.
[00:57:54] And the reality of the matter is it's not, it's like the way that most people approach
[00:58:04] the issue is not that being disabled is a moral failing. They just think about, you know, when
[00:58:14] they were sick, when they had some kind of disability and associated with the bad experiences
[00:58:23] they had as a consequence of that. Okay? Now, obviously, there's limitations. This
[00:58:29] doesn't mean that you should be slinging whatever slurs you want to sling. Obviously,
[00:58:33] I'm a very accommodating person, and I think some accommodations are good, right? To a certain degree
[00:58:40] But
[00:58:42] Speakers claim several times
[00:58:44] There's a genocide of fat people when it's both a loose application of the word genocide and a fundamental reordering of the base
[00:58:49] Instructure in this equation ie it is poor people
[00:58:51] it is
[00:58:53] It is poor people made to be unhealthy because they are poor not fat people made to be poor because they are fat
[00:58:59] Yes, I know that this thinness can be unhealthy in both body fat can be healthy a brush strokes here
[00:59:03] Speakers seemingly tacitly accepting the linking of fatness and blackness rather than recognizing being fat and black as a pejorative
[00:59:08] Primarily because of one's blackness rather than their fatness standard academic dilemma in which disciplinary procedures and disciplinary language
[00:59:14] That is often unrecognizable to broader audiences and contributes to overall poor optics
[00:59:19] Yeah, when you read too much
[00:59:21] This is when you think too much and you read too much especially in this
[00:59:25] present media environment where you will be punished for thinking about these
[00:59:30] issues from a different perspective. Let's be real. So it also has a lot to, in my
[00:59:35] opinion, like the reception of this conversation also absolutely stems from
[00:59:39] the reality that we live in clip culture. No one cares about having a nuanced
[00:59:42] discussion and also no one cares about understanding the entirety of the
[00:59:47] argument. I was thinking about this with like Pravda or the discourse
[00:59:53] that took place on the left leading up to the revolution, leading in the aftermath of the
[01:00:00] October revolution. What would it look like if that existed in modern day?
[01:00:11] Because back then, people didn't have TikTok. People didn't have the internet. So they would
[01:00:16] read the entirety of the fucking pamphlet, think about it thoroughly, and then deliver
[01:00:21] a scathing response, a scathing retort. Like imagine Rosa Luxemburg and, and uh,
[01:00:29] Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, Vladimir Lenin sending a mail back to one another,
[01:00:35] sending letters back to one another, um, critiquing certain elements of, of their worldview,
[01:00:41] but instead they're just lasering in on like eight words and then saying, you said these
[01:00:46] eight words fuck you and vice versa, right. So we, we no longer live in an environment
[01:01:02] like that because the medium and information sharing has changed. Okay. Oh my God, it's
[01:01:09] on for the love of God. Read more on this or don't talk about it. You are misunderstanding
[01:01:12] and misrepresenting and it's fucking your disabled watchers. What?
[01:01:16] Hassan, this is not the right take.
[01:01:17] You are misunderstanding what she is saying.
[01:01:19] What?
[01:01:22] This genetic was a joke and they don't mean physical fitness.
[01:01:24] No, that's what I said, too.
[01:01:26] I what are you talking about?
[01:01:27] Are you misunderstanding what I'm saying?
[01:01:29] I said, I don't think she's being sincere in that statement.
[01:01:35] OK, I don't think she was being like super serious about that.
[01:01:39] That's it.
[01:01:42] And now, and now I'm f-ing, oh, I love this.
[01:02:00] Your internet knows how big yes it is.
[01:02:04] So anyway, people, people laser in on this stuff, people laser in on whatever, whatever
[01:02:15] comes across as like the most negatively framed viral moment.
[01:02:23] Yeah.
[01:02:30] We saw similar thing happening during the Q&A portion of your talk yesterday too regarding
[01:02:33] masking. There are people to the left of you who you engage with in good faith
[01:02:37] instead of writing off as anti-social. Stu Smith is having a field day with
[01:02:40] his houry slap. Yes, I think for a lot of people, I think for a lot of people,
[01:02:46] there is this endless need to come across as one of the good ones. And this is the
[01:02:55] same for socialists as well. I'm one of the good ones. Look at me. I'm pushing away all the
[01:02:59] bad ones, all the crazy ones. My standard on this is until someone is genuinely engaging in record
[01:03:07] behavior, if someone is my ally and I have disagreements with them, I will engage with them. I will
[01:03:15] talk about our disagreements in a productive manner, but I won't try to like cast them aside
[01:03:23] in an effort to show the rest of the world, the rest of the people outside of our world view,
[01:03:31] people who look at us as though we're freaks, as though we're crazy, I'm not going to accept
[01:03:37] their framing and then show them how good I am, right? Like, there's plenty I disagree with.
[01:03:44] There's plenty I disagree with, okay?
[01:03:47] There's plenty I disagree with on the left as you guys know sometimes these things come up. They came up in my panel in the Q&A portion.
[01:04:01] But yeah, I think it's okay.
[01:04:10] When do you decide someone is behaving like a wrecker?
[01:04:14] Maximilist understandings, maximalist approach, immediately ascribing immorality to the actions,
[01:04:22] and also cynically claiming that you're working for the opposition, you're working
[01:04:27] working and also reframing the, you're working to serve a fascist purpose, you know what I mean?
[01:04:37] That kind of thing.
[01:04:50] But the real issue is that a lot of people have not learned from the feminist get-owned
[01:04:53] compilation era. They enjoy it. Yes, for sure.
[01:04:57] This Yannick has nothing to do with physical health. It's the literal opposite of you, Yannick.
[01:05:05] The idea used by fascists to push the idea of controlling who can and cannot have children
[01:05:09] because of supposed genetic quality, often racial and idea. Please contextualize the
[01:05:12] speaker's comments by reading more of what she said.
[01:05:15] Yeah. Chris Wilcox says, since some of you are well-intentioned actual enemy from the
[01:05:21] Manhattan Institute at his words instead of the Bayez Beatrice Adler.
[01:05:26] In her statements, revolution is sustained by care works, networks of food distribution,
[01:05:32] medicine, transportation, shelter, childcare, trust, law of education, collective memory.
[01:05:36] Disabled people have made revolutions. Sick people have made revolutions. Old people have
[01:05:40] made revolutions. People who cannot run, who cannot see, who cannot fight, who cannot
[01:05:43] work, who cannot survive independently have made revolutions. Ahmed Yassin, who was
[01:05:46] an important Palestinian leader and one of the founders in the early leaders of
[01:05:49] Hamasus paralyzes 16 years quadriplegic show me a leader in the Palestinian resistance who does not encounter
[01:05:54] Divility at some point in their lives
[01:05:55] Che Guevara had debilitating asthma
[01:05:57] He carried really heavy duty inhalers with them into battle in the combat in the jungle because of the humidity in the jungle made
[01:06:03] His asthma worse cabral too same thing rose low lugs and burg had hip dysplasia
[01:06:07] Now also had ALS phenomenon terminal my Lloyd leukemia
[01:06:11] And he wrote some of his best work under the knowledge that diagnosed was hanging over his head
[01:06:15] Gramsci had tuberculosis of the spine, which sounds incredibly painful. Trotsky was chronically ill throughout most of his life
[01:06:21] The point is everyone has some some kind of disability, right? It's true. Like people have
[01:06:27] periods of illness and also people have lifelong debilitating illness as well
[01:06:32] and
[01:06:34] you you
[01:06:35] You know you overcome that you and the idea that like people have to be of
[01:06:40] perfect mind and body at all times obviously is like
[01:06:43] not the not the reality okay so I understand that I understand that point
[01:06:50] that is being made so all of that is to say that our debilitated imperfect
[01:06:54] bodies are far more threatening to power than we are led to believe our
[01:06:57] revolutionist claim must not be that our bodies can't outperform the fascist
[01:07:01] it needs to be the one should have to prove their fitness in order to
[01:07:03] belong to the world that we are all fighting for
[01:07:08] come on man I'm trying not to yell at you I will say one thing and this
[01:07:12] is going to piss off. I think a lot of the disability activists, I'm sorry to the disability
[01:07:17] activists in this community, but y'all do get really fucking annoying anytime we talk
[01:07:21] about this stuff. Okay, you don't just like let it live. You don't let it like, you don't
[01:07:26] let this discourse go through without writing an entire fucking thing about how I am actually
[01:07:31] doing engaging in like body fascism or whatever the fuck. And you first come across as
[01:07:35] like, you first start the conversation with like here we have a reasonable, we have
[01:07:40] a reasonable disagreement and then that reasonable disagreement actually piles on and then it
[01:07:45] turns into this like major issue, okay? I'm not attacking you, I'm not attacking you, okay?
[01:07:52] But you also need to understand it's the same conversation that I have with the Ultras,
[01:07:56] okay? The same conversation that I have with the Ultras. I'm not attacking you because
[01:08:00] I think it's pussy shit. I think it's cowardice to constantly attack your comrades, constantly
[01:08:05] attack people who are close to you. That doesn't mean I agree with you entirely
[01:08:08] And that doesn't give you an opportunity to constantly fucking yell and make the conversation about your we are getting flamed in your communities and it sucks.
[01:08:16] Oh my God.
[01:08:19] Stop rap eating.
[01:08:21] Okay.
[01:08:23] Jesus Christ.
[01:08:33] It's so tough to get a word and edgewise all the time.
[01:08:36] Okay.
[01:08:36] And I know this is one of the, why is it a conversation being had at a public socials
[01:08:42] and commerce that can be completely correct, but goddamn, what do you mean?
[01:08:45] Where else are people supposed to have this conversation?
[01:08:50] I don't think that's an issue either.
[01:08:51] I think it's perfectly valid to have these sorts of conversations.
[01:08:54] It just sucks that unfortunately, the environment that we exist in makes it impossible to
[01:08:59] have reasonable discourse around this issue because no matter what happens, people are
[01:09:04] going to obviously lean into. People are obviously going to take whatever they want to take from
[01:09:13] the conversation and frame it negatively. And then it's going to remind people how fucking annoying
[01:09:18] it was last time they tried to talk to someone who's a disability activist. And then they're
[01:09:22] going to go, you know what, it is actually poison for solidarity and organizing. So fuck them,
[01:09:27] because that's exactly what's going on here. A lot of the people here either directly
[01:09:31] disagree with the talking points or they just got really fucking annoyed on the internet because some of y'all are fucking annoying and now
[01:09:38] It turns into hostility
[01:09:41] Okay
[01:09:42] That's it. It turns into fucking hostility
[01:09:45] That's why I always say you got to be normal and I know this actually is the worst time to say this because everyone will go
[01:09:50] What is normal actually normal and an understanding of normal is body fascism
[01:09:53] You are literally a fascist you're doing fascism by saying be fucking normal
[01:09:57] We have to remember that like we have to be our best advocates, okay? We have to be our best advocates
[01:10:04] You shouldn't drop your your principles
[01:10:07] But you should also be somewhat pragmatic understand how your opposition is going to understand your worldview
[01:10:13] How they're gonna interpret the words that are coming out of your mouth. We always have to put our best foot forward, okay?
[01:10:18] I don't expect well-read academic socialists to become, you know, media demons, okay, to
[01:10:31] become PR-trained messaging demons.
[01:10:41] I'm not expecting that.
[01:10:45] at least please please just dial it back a little bit dial it back a little bit and and you know
[01:10:53] this is like calling feminist shrill
[01:10:59] being palatable and socially malleable doesn't make you a bad leftist just makes your job in
[01:11:03] the movement a different one yeah anyway the right already knows that health politics mass
[01:11:09] policies they've already recognized they're exploding at the right understands that people
[01:11:11] experience capitalism to their bodies that understand the sickness, exhaustion, debt, alienation,
[01:11:15] fear and suffering. Some of the primary ways people measure their life is going, whether
[01:11:20] life is going better or worse, what health fashion does, organize those experiences
[01:11:22] in the resentment, selfishness and defeat. Okay. Yeah, it's just, I am obviously a
[01:11:30] lot more careful when these sorts of clips happen because I'm the guy who gets clipped
[01:11:34] all the fucking time. I get clipped nonstop. I get clipped endlessly. Sometimes they
[01:11:39] They don't even clip me. They just say I believe something and people run along with it even if I don't believe that thing, right?
[01:11:50] You are constantly criticized for your tone when delivering your take so I'm not sure why you turn and do that to your left flank.
[01:11:56] I think it's usually a bad idea to tell the more oppressed group that they're annoying for speaking out.
[01:12:01] Okay, dude.
[01:12:03] We have to be also aware while I'm giving credence to the argument itself.
[01:12:07] We also have to be aware of how it comes across, right?
[01:12:12] Like, this is the only, the major gripe that I have without, aside from like the liberalism
[01:12:18] of woke 1.0, the corporate understanding of what it meant to be woke and the hollowed out identity
[01:12:24] politics of it all. The thing that actually was very frustrating is this, is the tone,
[01:12:30] is the moralization of every single point, the idea that we're on the morally righteous
[01:12:34] sites, standpoint epistemology. I have experienced this. You have not. Therefore, I am right and you
[01:12:40] are wrong. You need to shut the fuck up and listen to me. The tyranny of the minority that happens to
[01:12:45] be the most aggressive in their posture. These are the types of things that make solidarity and
[01:12:50] organizing very difficult because some of us do not want to think about the world outside of
[01:12:56] our own immediate experiences and don't want to think about someone who's never had to go
[01:13:01] through that process, you have to understand most people lack empathy. Okay? That's it.
[01:13:07] They fucking lack empathy. So we have to like educate them on this issue.
[01:13:13] One of the examples that I always use for years and years was when people would be like,
[01:13:19] why are you guys listening to this fucking white dude? Fuck this white guy. He's a straight
[01:13:23] white guy. He's fucking straight white guy. He's reactionary. He's bro like I don't
[01:13:27] like his optics. I don't like the way he carries himself, right? This was a major argument for
[01:13:33] like the last decade from the left. They'd be like, why don't they listen to a trans person on
[01:13:37] these issues? And I tried to always explain to people that like, of course, someone who is transphobic
[01:13:42] in a transphobic society is probably going to listen to a straight person more than they listen
[01:13:47] to a straight person, a cisgender person before they listen to a trans person. So like,
[01:13:51] we don't have an understanding of the funnel. We don't even think about it where we just
[01:13:56] go, no, we are morally correct. So you need to shut the fuck up and listen to us. The problem is,
[01:14:01] most people, when they hear that go, ew, fuck you. And it breeds more resentment. We do not have,
[01:14:08] we do not have the opportunity to generate more resentment against our cause. We have to also
[01:14:13] put our best foot forward. I think you're straw manning an opponent here. There's a difference
[01:14:24] Someone who yells at someone random on the right for not wearing a mask versus asking a public figure on the left to wear a mask
[01:14:28] I think is pretty disingenuous to be honest or you just agree with what that person is saying
[01:14:32] Okay, you agree with that what that person is saying and you're not understanding the point
[01:14:36] I'm making because those conversations do not happen in private in general those
[01:14:40] Conversations are happening in public and every single person that hears that goes. Oh, I know exactly what that is
[01:14:48] Okay, that's it
[01:14:50] Would you kindly tell me what started this?
[01:14:57] What started this is, what started this is like the clip posted by reactionary Stu Smith,
[01:15:08] the fucking ridiculous Manhattan Institute about someone having engaging in a thoughtful
[01:15:13] discourse over disability activism and like the role that people with disabilities play
[01:15:19] in a socialist revolution. And that panel itself bred a lot of
[01:15:25] hostility because a lot of people also themselves have an
[01:15:30] element of what many people even on the left are just ableist.
[01:15:36] That's it.
[01:15:42] You know,
[01:15:49] Many people are ableist and my argument of course isn't to say well it sucks to suck many people are ableist you need to shut the fuck up
[01:16:01] The ultra's upset with you right now do not understand that the biggest victims identity policies there were manufactured divide the lab
[01:16:06] Yeah, like the thing is
[01:16:08] There's two. There's two points that I have to explain to people all the time. It's like I
[01:16:13] I go back to the Latinx example right because that's one that like you know was was argued endlessly and it was like very quickly packed up
[01:16:22] I never entertained it and I explained to you why I didn't do it because if I were to run around and try to organize
[01:16:28] Like in in Latino communities for example the Chicano communities and I was like calling everybody Latinx
[01:16:34] They would look at me like I have fucking three eyeballs, okay?
[01:16:37] Like they'd be like what the fuck are you what what do you say you're just like this out of touch academic smug elitist guy
[01:16:44] You're never gonna understand my plight. You're never gonna give a shit about what I have to say
[01:16:47] You're calling me lot the next the fuck is that?
[01:16:50] okay, the expectation
[01:16:53] That people who are dipping their toes into socialist organizing or into organizing in general all have to immediately
[01:17:00] Come to the understanding that you know
[01:17:03] Everyone is supposed to be mask-wearing in public settings all the time is unfortunately
[01:17:08] One of those arguments that that it makes sense in theory, but it does not make sense in practice
[01:17:14] It's just a barrier that literally makes us impossible to fucking contend with
[01:17:20] That's what I was trying to explain where I was like look there's a place
[01:17:24] Okay, there's a way to do it. There's a place for it
[01:17:27] If you're sick if you're if you're you know groggy if you're sick
[01:17:30] you should definitely wear a mask. That makes sense. Like, and we should be advocating for
[01:17:34] better, better ventilation. We should be advocating to make this easier for everyone involved.
[01:17:42] But having said that, the association of left organizing with, with a ban on, you know,
[01:17:58] not a band necessarily, but a rule that everyone has to wear a mask is just virtually impossible
[01:18:08] to abide by, and it's going to make people not want to.
[01:18:13] It's just going to be a bridge too far for so many people, right?
[01:18:27] This has been exceedingly fair coverage of this.
[01:18:33] When someone is wokescolding another person, your job is to use that energy and position
[01:18:36] to explain the position instead of yelling at the wokescolder.
[01:18:41] Instead of joining them to yell at the wokescolder, what?
[01:18:45] I think we can all agree Twitch chat is the worst place to have this conversation
[01:18:47] on Twitter.
[01:18:48] No, I don't think so.
[01:18:49] I think Twitch chat is probably a better place to have this conversation on Twitter
[01:18:51] even though many of these positions will probably get clipped and then posted on Twitter
[01:18:56] regardless. American History, Latinx is a great movie. Okay, shut the fuck up.
[01:19:08] Yeah, no country recommends permanent mass mandates, not the recommended public health
[01:19:11] guidance. Well, people say no country cares about disabled people. So we have to be better than
[01:19:16] that. The argument to that is we on the left have to be better than that. We have to be
[01:19:20] super accommodating and understanding that there are people with lifelong medical issues
[01:19:27] and therefore everyone has to wear a mask at all times when they're in public.
[01:19:31] Unfortunately, it's just not going to happen. It didn't even happen during COVID,
[01:19:35] but it was perfectly valid for it to take place. I did abide by the mask mandates at the time.
[01:19:40] But it's just, you know, not only is it, not only is it most likely not going to happen,
[01:19:53] but I think it also like either we should segment it out or we should figure out a way to,
[01:19:59] we should, you know, figure out how to best manage it. You are not a regular uneducated
[01:20:04] person. The fact that other people wouldn't take it well to be mass shame doesn't change the
[01:20:07] fact that it costs you a public figure could wear a mask at little cost to
[01:20:10] yourself at times like when you went to Cuba, Yehuda just swallowed my spit.
[01:20:16] Okay.
[01:20:18] Brother.
[01:20:20] The reason why I use the Latinx comparison is for this reason.
[01:20:23] Okay.
[01:20:27] I need you to understand something.
[01:20:28] Socialism also requires you to be social.
[01:20:32] Okay.
[01:20:32] This is an impediment to socializing and therefore socialism, whether
[01:20:37] you're building it or not. Okay? It is no different than running around in Cuba and getting mad
[01:20:43] because I didn't fucking say Latinx or something because I could have hurt people's feelings
[01:20:47] like it wasn't mandated by the organizers or wasn't mandated by the Cuban government.
[01:20:52] You're infantilizing the Cuban government's fucking position at that point. You're treating
[01:21:01] Cubans that are 90 miles off of our coastline, like they're an indigenous population that
[01:21:08] has never had contact with the rest of the world in the past, like what are we talking
[01:21:13] about?
[01:21:24] Also I've met you motherfucker, you weren't wearing a mask when we met out in public,
[01:21:27] the fuck is this argument? Unless I'm mistaken, it was something I'm pretty sure I saw you
[01:21:34] out at a fucking comedy club and your ass wasn't wearing a goddamn mask. So where are
[01:21:44] we going with this argument?
[01:21:57] Come on, don't tell me Latinx is taking additional precautions
[01:22:00] the same.
[01:22:14] I think people believe this is just too online, they got to touch grass, go speak to the average
[01:22:23] person as a physician I spend all day talking to regular people and I think that gives a
[01:22:27] very realistic understanding of what the average person would reasonably do, yeah.
[01:22:41] This is a, as in utility, she's talking about historic Medicaid cubs, doge-gooding special
[01:22:46] needs programs, network requirements, and the far-right imposing a MAHA individualist
[01:22:50] purification frame to supplant public health.
[01:22:52] She's not calling it fascist to have a gym membership.
[01:22:54] Yeah, I think that's what a lot of people didn't understand about our take, which is,
[01:22:58] you know, that was the intention, right?
[01:23:00] Sue Smith was making it seem like she's saying it's fascist.
[01:23:04] There are some who have said that.
[01:23:06] There are some who have literally said, caring about how you look is a sign that you are engaging
[01:23:13] in body fascism or whatever.
[01:23:14] She wasn't doing that, but it doesn't matter.
[01:23:16] That's what it alluded to, and that's the reason why a lot of people reacted negatively
[01:23:20] to it.
[01:23:21] Right?
[01:23:22] That's why a lot of people highlighted the right-wing nonsense.
[01:23:25] Now having said that, there are different schools of thought on this.
[01:23:29] Some people are saying, why are they having this conversation?
[01:23:32] Why are they even having this conversation in public?
[01:23:33] It's like, well, what are they supposed to do?
[01:23:34] have this conversation, you're not supposed to, you're not allowed because other people
[01:23:40] might misconstrue your perspective. I mean, yeah, it sucks. We should be careful with the
[01:23:44] words that we choose, especially in public settings. But ultimately, if you have a different
[01:23:48] opinion, you should be able to have it. You should be able to openly talk about it.
[01:23:52] You know, it's the fucking socialism conference put on by Haymarket Books. If they're not
[01:23:56] going to have a conversation about like eugenics and whatnot there, where the
[01:23:59] fuck are they supposed to have this conversation? This is the place for the conversation
[01:24:04] to take place before people get mad. Okay? So, yeah, one of the frustrating elements
[01:24:13] of this conversation is one of the frustrating elements of this entire back and forth from
[01:24:19] my perspective always is the idea that like we can't just disagree with people, you know
[01:24:23] what I mean? And it happens on both ends of the left spectrum. It happens on every
[01:24:28] element, every part of the political spectrum, but certainly on both ends of the left
[01:24:32] spectrum where someone goes, oh, you said, you said there's a
[01:24:36] genocide of fat people going on. I disagree with you. Fuck you,
[01:24:39] you're insane. And then on the other side, people go, oh, you,
[01:24:42] you know, you want everyone to be physically fit and work out
[01:24:46] your, you know, your, your ableist, fuck you, you're a
[01:24:49] fascist. This is not how people talk in the real world.
[01:24:54] I'm willing to bet that if we were to get together, okay,
[01:24:57] and engage one another in a serious conversation, behind
[01:25:01] closed doors without cameras present we would probably be able to have a much
[01:25:05] more healthy and much more productive conversations. This is why I always say
[01:25:08] you gotta fucking touch grass, okay?
[01:25:15] It's also part of the reason why you got to go to the gym as well. Get a gym
[01:25:18] membership, go to the gym, or work out in some capacity. No offense but we also
[01:25:24] tend to consider these people to be standard bearers of the entirety of
[01:25:26] the movement? No, I don't think so. And also, this could be the thing that we disagree on,
[01:25:34] but we agree on 9 out of 10 issues. So who gives a shit if we disagree on this? You know
[01:25:39] what I mean? That's my attitude. I am willing and able to and talk to people who want to
[01:25:45] kill me. Okay. Who like sincerely want me to die. I want what's best for them. I
[01:25:51] I want to help them out. I want to fight for them, as well as all of my closest friends and comrades.
[01:25:58] That's what being a Socialist is all about. That's what universal programs are all about.
[01:26:03] Okay? So if I have that attitude about someone who's like a fucking neo-nazi wands to kill me,
[01:26:08] then of course I'm going to have a far closer relationship with someone who agrees with me
[01:26:13] nine out of ten times just because we disagree on the one thing doesn't mean I'm just
[01:26:16] going to lean into the right wing framing on the issue and attack them.
[01:26:21] Okay.
[01:26:30] It feels more one-sided than in person, though.
[01:26:32] When you go to a conference, people are asking what is yelling and shaming you for talking
[01:26:35] about some niche academic thing like this, but they absolutely do yell and shame for you,
[01:26:39] not agreeing on that.
[01:26:40] You saw that yourself yesterday when you got shouted down for not wearing a mask.
[01:26:44] There's not attendees shouting at people for wearing a mask.
[01:26:46] Yeah, no, it is.
[01:26:49] It's because, it's because it's accommodation politics, okay?
[01:26:55] It's accommodation politics.
[01:26:58] Socialists want to be kind.
[01:27:00] They want to be as accommodating as possible.
[01:27:03] And that is precisely the reason why socialists who want to be kind and as accommodating
[01:27:11] as possible end up taking the position that sometimes might even be the minority position.
[01:27:19] Sometimes might even sometimes might even set unnecessary hurdles against people who want to organize with a broader
[01:27:26] community of people
[01:27:28] But again, just don't fucking don't lean into right-wing reactionary framing. That's it. You should not do that
[01:27:34] You should not do that. We can have reasonable discussions around these issues. Anyway, I'm gonna play this
[01:27:41] Um, I'm gonna play this Hasan Abihed's a beautifully edited Labor Day clip while I go p
[01:27:46] Okay, and I'll be back in one second.
[01:28:16] So, inevitably, these rights were not achieved without bloodshed.
[01:28:20] Labor Day began as a way to demonstrate the growth and power of the labor movement, with
[01:28:24] parades of over 10,000 workers staying away from work.
[01:28:28] The parades celebrated their crafts and dedication to workers' rights.
[01:28:31] Afterwards, a picnic took place with speeches from prominent activists and the general
[01:28:35] celebrations the holiday is now known for.
[01:28:37] This became an annual event, and over the years states began recognizing the
[01:28:41] first Monday in September as Labor Day.
[01:28:44] In 1894, following a brutal deployment of federal officers to crush the nationwide railroad
[01:28:49] worker strike, President Rofor Cleveland made Labor Day a federal holiday in an attempt
[01:28:54] to not lose the working class vote.
[01:28:56] This deviated from the global holiday date of May Day, which was heavily tied to declared
[01:29:01] socialist and communist movements.
[01:29:03] Labor Day's original purpose was an annual reminder that workers have the right to
[01:29:07] fight against exploitation, often expressing the beliefs of socialists and communists.
[01:29:13] With the epidemic of poor class consciousness and red scare propaganda twisting the perception
[01:29:17] of these movements, now more than ever, we must celebrate and honor its true roots.
[01:29:23] Laborers of all kinds must be respected and regarded as the resilient force they are.
[01:29:28] Today we have to encourage ourselves to be inspired by the movement this was built on,
[01:29:33] because much like them, we still have strength, community, and the ability to fight.
[01:29:43] What is this we are going to make disabled people, we are going to make disabled people
[01:30:00] get free healthcare and freedom no matter how they refuse it.
[01:30:06] What?
[01:30:09] shaming your daughter always. She's your co-host, it's true she is. So, where was I? What was
[01:30:33] talking about? Oh yeah we were talking about the the back and forth and how like
[01:30:40] not charitable people are. I think it's it's a real shame that people can't be
[01:30:46] charitable to those who they are closest to ideologically even if they
[01:30:52] disagree with them. I try to do that to the best of my ability until it gets
[01:30:57] to a degree where people are just like you're misunderstanding this you're
[01:31:00] stupid on this issue, you're not well read on this issue, shut the fuck up.
[01:31:03] And they make it seem as though I haven't thought about like how to manage and how to
[01:31:11] also communicate these ideas to a broader audience.
[01:31:17] Okay?
[01:31:20] Okay.
[01:31:27] Um, final word of criticism from piss war text is the speakers alluded to fitness being
[01:31:37] linked with readiness for militarization under fascism and is therefore fascist and lead the
[01:31:41] revolution and that the revolution will involve mutual aid supply lines, food aid, et cetera.
[01:31:45] Let's not put our thinking, let's put our thinking caps down and recognize that in
[01:31:48] in a literal military revolutionary scenario, we cannot all be working in the soup kitchen.
[01:31:52] Some of us are going to be doing the long march.
[01:31:56] Yes.
[01:31:57] It's also part of the reason why I don't like immediately cast aside people who have served
[01:32:02] in the military, the imperialist American military.
[01:32:07] So I mean, I don't cast aside anybody.
[01:32:09] Let's be real.
[01:32:13] Quick question.
[01:32:14] I like Assange's domestic politics.
[01:32:15] I was wondering if it was a tanky and foreign policy stuff.
[01:32:17] If you're using the term tanky in this chat sincerely, then you probably will consider
[01:32:22] anything that I say to not be nuanced and of course immediately assume I am a tanky because
[01:32:27] anything that says America is the big bad is a tanky obviously.
[01:32:34] Noah with a great take.
[01:32:35] If you engage in almost any way with the right wing hacks, clippings, socials and
[01:32:39] I think what happens here a lot is that people get mad that you don't communicate the way that they would or want you to, which is weird and egotistical. Yes.
[01:32:53] Um, and just as I know, everyone's tripping over themselves to join the grimy right wing
[01:33:04] pile on left this Lee.
[01:33:05] I just want to say that agree or disagree with what Beatrice said.
[01:33:09] She is not a cartoon, but a real human being and a deep thinker driven by genuine commitment
[01:33:13] to justice.
[01:33:14] Just some to consider.
[01:33:15] I've had the pleasure of having her on the pod.
[01:33:17] Many times discuss how our media dehumanizes those viewed as surplus.
[01:33:20] will find her nuanced, thoughtful, and clearly motivated by a desire to elevate populations
[01:33:24] often omitted from left-spades and media more broadly, for myself, and how I value people's
[01:33:28] intellectual contributions I mostly sort them into two camps.
[01:33:31] Are you trying to expand the circle of solidarity or shirk it?
[01:33:34] Regardless of if you agree with everything Beatrice says, I can 100% assure you she
[01:33:37] is deeply committed to expanding it, whether or not an out-of-context clip spread by
[01:33:41] the worst humans on Earth make life harder for you or your friends' attempts at mass
[01:33:44] politics, I can't say.
[01:33:45] But understanding how these viral pylons are very clearly being stoked by Paul
[01:33:49] singers, Aaron Boyz is a good place to start. Yes. And as someone who has been victim to,
[01:33:58] or not victim necessarily, I don't even like that language, but as someone who's been at
[01:34:02] the center of these pylons over and over again, I understand intimately what it's like when you
[01:34:08] are, when you have the cross Arizona, and I know what the goals are. The goals there
[01:34:13] are to divide the working class. The goals are to make the left attack its own left flank.
[01:34:20] Okay. Now, you can have disagreements with Beatriz. I do as well to a certain degree.
[01:34:27] We can have a reasonable conversation without attacking this person. We can have a reasonable
[01:34:31] conversation around what we believe, maybe our misunderstandings of one another. Okay.
[01:34:38] But of course, it's virtually impossible to do so in this media environment.
[01:34:43] So obviously, good luck to anyone who tries to do it in this media environment.
[01:34:48] Because unfortunately, our billionaire backed algorithms demand we fight one another off of the most negatively framed clips out of context.
[01:34:58] text.
[01:34:59] When is this a Zionism at a socialism conference talking about settler colonialism only in
[01:35:10] America?
[01:35:11] Guys, did you stop the center of liberal Zionism before you went for a jog today?
[01:35:14] Did you remember the Kando Hamas for heading outside the soak of some vitamin D?
[01:35:17] What is this?
[01:35:18] What is happening?
[01:35:19] I have no idea what's going on here.
[01:35:25] panel about your interview in the conference.
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[01:36:57] for the first place.
[01:37:01] Well, thank you. Nice to be here. His son, Piker, is a cancer to America. This is a guy
[01:37:08] who believed that America deserved 9-11. He's made anti-semitic remarks. He's talked about
[01:37:14] how he would-
[01:37:15] Well, again, this is the Democratic strategist, Doug Friednash. Buddy, you're on Fox News.
[01:37:23] on Fox News and you are agreeing with Fox News. Between you and I, I think there is a real cancerous
[01:37:30] entity and it's not me, okay?
[01:37:39] Guy who goes on Fox News to be like, yeah, this guy is fucking cancer.
[01:37:45] cancer. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder who's actually cancer here between you and I, my man. Probably
[01:37:55] not me, but former chief to Hickenlooper Hickenpooper for Hamas over Israel. He's made dangerous
[01:38:07] comments that have flamed passion saying Democrats should be careful or Jews should be careful
[01:38:12] of aligning with the state of Israel and those repercussions. He's a damaging person.
[01:38:18] He's not, his views are not aligned with the Democratic Party and they're extreme. And he's
[01:38:24] as dangerous as to Democrats as Nick Fuentes is to Republicans.
[01:38:29] Absolutely. I want to play some sound, first of all, from both Piker and also from Democratic
[01:38:37] Congressman Jamie Raskin. So first of all Raskin dismisses Piker's pro-Hamas remarks as a quote irrelevant
[01:38:44] distraction that he believes will not affect the outcome of the midterm elections.
[01:38:48] Meantime this is what gets me is when Piker is asked if he's talked or spoken or been in contact with the DNC
[01:38:55] He says no, but that would be funny and I'm not laughing and I'm pretty sure voters aren't either. Let's play that
[01:39:01] You heard Republican on Fox News. Why do you give me shit? I'm not laughing
[01:39:07] It's not funny. How dare you joke about the DNC being in close contact with you, Hasan
[01:39:18] I have not had a conversation with anyone from the DNC. That would be very funny. I don't know how that would go, but let's just say I don't think they're too fond of me. And, uh, I don't know how that would go.
[01:39:47] And they just don't want me to exist.
[01:39:51] They just don't want me to exist as a vehicle for left insurgent movements to grow within
[01:39:57] the ranks of the party.
[01:39:59] I don't even know if Hassan Piker considers himself a Democrat.
[01:40:02] I think all of that is an irrelevant distraction.
[01:40:05] Obviously, nobody supports Hamas, a terrorist organization.
[01:40:10] Will Democrats at some point, will prominent Democrats at some point go, hmm, I wonder
[01:40:16] why the Republicans are leaning into this stuff. Will they, will they do that? This constant
[01:40:23] left bashing? Who is this for? This constant left bashing that can't, like, look, the easiest
[01:40:32] argument you can give to someone like that after that clip especially is to say, look,
[01:40:38] he's admitting it himself. We obviously have our disagreements, but that's how democracy
[01:40:43] works. That's how democracy works. That's how a big tent works. I'm sure that you don't
[01:40:50] agree with every single thing that every single Republican believes. You know, something along
[01:40:54] those lines, you could say that, but no, they have to take every opportunity to be like,
[01:40:58] the left needs to be put against the wall and shot in the back of the head. Okay.
[01:41:02] We hate the left. We hate the left more than more than you hate the left. I promise.
[01:41:08] You know, which brutally attacked Israel on October the 7th, but people here also don't
[01:41:17] support the policies of BB Netanyahu.
[01:41:21] We're going to stand strong for democracy, national security, human rights all over the
[01:41:25] world.
[01:41:26] But there's not a long time fan, but I can't get conscious.
[01:41:28] Join the hype train until you address the missing tank top stream.
[01:41:30] I have done the gaming stream and the tank top stream.
[01:41:34] You're just wrong.
[01:41:35] You didn't see it.
[01:41:36] So you think it didn't happen.
[01:41:37] But it did happen.
[01:41:38] Maybe you were unsatisfied with the length of it, but it happened
[01:41:42] Beginning right here in America where our national security our democracy and our human rights have been undermined by Donald Trump and his mega followers
[01:41:50] Okay, so Andy here's the problem. Okay. He Raskin is basically saying that Democrats of course do not support Hamas. Well, thank God
[01:41:57] They're not supporting terrorists, but what they are supporting is
[01:42:03] Those who hate Jews who are actually standing up for Israel and hating Israel
[01:42:08] for standing up for itself and therefore you if you were against israel and you're against what is
[01:42:13] happening brother sister pro hamas considering this was a terrorist or what is this argument man
[01:42:21] this lady has lost her dang mind box news the last refuge of the national security democrat i know
[01:42:29] but like she can't even she can't even come across coherent she's just so mad
[01:42:35] Is this normal? Why they why do they post you? Yeah, the nation has lost their damn minds
[01:42:42] I don't know what the fuck they're doing. I think they're just trying to show that they're good. They're the good kind
[01:42:49] Yeah, I guess the nation that the nation cares about is the nation of Israel I
[01:42:55] Don't know I have a lot of friends that I have a lot of people I respect they're right for the nation
[01:43:01] like
[01:43:03] It's it's actually kind of confusing to me as well. I don't know why they've been like pumping it as hard as they can
[01:43:23] Indeed the nation assisted in Israel's foundation as a Zionist settler state which the magazine's current editor-in-chief Katrina van
[01:43:29] Vanden Heuvel boasted about to the forward saying we have a great history lobbying Truman the UN for the creation of the state of Israel
[01:43:36] Yeah, I mean, I guess that's why that makes sense
[01:43:44] Yeah, so we one must ask
[01:43:48] Horace podcast both with the backlash to receive for platforming you so one of both sides. Oh, this is a ton a
[01:43:54] a great supporters was a very controversial internet online streamer slash broadcaster named Hassan piker.
[01:44:02] I told him this too. As soon as we did the interview, I was like, they're going to cook your ass, buddy.
[01:44:08] It's also funny, since the head editor shared your jocobin article that defended you. Yeah.
[01:44:14] He is an avowed anti-Zionist. He rejects the idea of a Jewish state altogether.
[01:44:19] He doesn't only reject the occupation or condemn Israeli behavior.
[01:44:23] ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt calls him virulent anti-Semite. He was refused entry to the UK.
[01:44:31] And Aiton, you were the first member of the Israeli media to interview him. Not everyone
[01:44:37] thinks that you or Haritz should have platformed him. We've run some opinion pieces.
[01:44:41] It's so funny. It's so funny because like on the one hand, people are yelling at me
[01:44:46] because they're like, why would you ever talk to Haritz? It's an Israeli newspaper.
[01:44:48] It's a Zionist newspaper. It's an Israeli newspaper. The Zionist is like, yeah,
[01:44:52] Okay. Well, I still defended my fucking perspective on Haritz. You might disagree with some of the things that I said
[01:44:58] Um, because there are some people I think who are just like you're not supposed to say that any war crimes took place on October 7
[01:45:03] Which I think is like pretty crazy
[01:45:06] Is you know, I'm never going to deny the reality
[01:45:08] But you have to also analyze why people are pushed to
[01:45:13] Engaging in in acts such as that one right that unfolded on October 7
[01:45:18] And it's obviously always going to be a byproduct of the systemic violence and destruction of the Palestinians of what stood for 80 fucking years
[01:45:25] Saying that is truthful. It's important to say the truth. I will always say the truth
[01:45:33] It's really it's really interesting that people were like no you're supposed to deny it or something
[01:45:37] I don't know what the fuck they want from me on that on that regard in that regard. It's like
[01:45:43] Is that even against us? So tell us about your conversation
[01:45:46] conversation, what he had to say, how hard you pushed him on certain points, and why
[01:45:52] you think it was important to have him say what he had to say in the Israeli media.
[01:45:57] Sure.
[01:45:58] So, first of all, the conversation around platforming, Piker has 3 million subscribers
[01:46:03] on his Twitch stream, yet millions of followers on X, on Instagram.
[01:46:09] The narrative that, you know, how it's with its readership is somehow platforming
[01:46:13] him and giving him a void that's a bit far-fetched. I think that his role in democratic progressive
[01:46:20] politics that he's campaigned will aside with other progressive insurgents that he is his
[01:46:28] platform where young people, mostly men, might hear for the first time the term anti-dionist
[01:46:36] or settler colonialism, or learn about Israel, and that he has a perch in democratic politics,
[01:46:44] makes him a person that it's worth talking to, is worth understanding not only of the person
[01:46:50] yet, but where American politics has shifted on Israel, especially on young people. If you
[01:46:55] remember after the democratic defeat in 24, the Democrat party autopsy was, we need to
[01:47:01] Joe Rogan of the left. He is basically that guy and to understand, you know, it's not only to
[01:47:07] understand him but to understand the people he's talking to. So I found that conversation very,
[01:47:12] very interesting. And then immediately after it was published, he was in the middle of another
[01:47:16] controversy in which he implied that, you know, because of their support for Zionism,
[01:47:21] that American Jews were some form of legitimate target for violence.
[01:47:25] Well, yeah, I mean that was also debatable. I talked to you see that's good. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for thank you for that
[01:47:35] No, he knows he knows what I fucking said
[01:47:38] But the difference between you know crossing line between analysis and support is response was my analysis is brutal
[01:47:45] And that it's not his job to police how you know passing the resist right so I think with that
[01:47:51] That statement, it was also, we have heard other statements, even from Haley Stevens
[01:47:57] in the debate against Assad, who said Netanyahu has not made Jews safer, right?
[01:48:04] So I think he said it very bluntly and I think streaming for eight hours a day and that's
[01:48:08] ...
[01:48:09] You're going to say a lot of things.
[01:48:10] You're going to say a lot of things and I think the medium rewards it.
[01:48:13] I was one of those people who was really concerned when I heard that we were going
[01:48:18] to be running an interview with him.
[01:48:20] I was texting you terrified, terrified,
[01:48:25] terrified like these people think I'm terrifying.
[01:48:27] That's so crazy to me.
[01:48:32] I'm sorry.
[01:48:34] How is this not like self induced hysteria?
[01:48:39] How is this because like I get why you would feel some type of way about
[01:48:43] like Nick Fuentes or something, right?
[01:48:46] I get why you would feel some type of way about
[01:48:49] if Horitz were to give up a profile to Nick Fuentes or a long conversation to Nick Fuentes
[01:48:54] or something like that, but like, I'm not ambiguous with my position on antisemitism,
[01:49:04] okay? I am against antisemitism. I fight against antisemitism with regular frequency,
[01:49:09] which is why, not only am I not doing this sort of thing where I'll say like,
[01:49:18] Oh, well, I don't know. Why do we care about this? We shouldn't be talking about this at all. Like I talk about it all the fucking time
[01:49:24] We concern so that's why it's even funnier when people are just like this is a terrifying person that you're talking to this person is a
[01:49:32] nasty
[01:49:33] vicious
[01:49:34] scary person
[01:49:37] That can mean anything dog. No, what what do you mean?
[01:49:43] And and you know, I I'm really glad that
[01:49:46] Eitan, you really pushed back. You didn't just, you know, let him say things and leave
[01:49:52] it at that. I remain concerned about the role that we are giving streamers, for instance,
[01:50:00] people who are, you know, non-academic, non-professional, internet educated about particular subjects,
[01:50:07] be our driving voices in political issues.
[01:50:10] On both sides.
[01:50:11] Oh, for sure.
[01:50:12] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:50:13] analysis thing. Yeah, Tucker Carlson like acts like he's analyzing, right? But this messaging
[01:50:18] is pretty clear, right? He knows what he's saying. He's streaming for eight hours a day,
[01:50:22] but he made this his job. He knows what he's saying when he says that, you know, when he
[01:50:26] platforms Houthis, when he says his favorite flag is Hezbollah, when he said he would
[01:50:32] vote for Hamas over Israel. He would vote for Hamas over Israel. Yeah, maybe you should
[01:50:35] have listened to the interview because I, you know, defended some of these positions
[01:50:39] and also elaborated on others.
[01:50:42] Well, and when he, you know, just says that he didn't make statements that he did or say
[01:50:50] like, or put in that plausible deniability of, I didn't say that thing that I basically
[01:50:55] said with subtext for anyone who has any basic inference skills.
[01:51:00] Why are we talking past one another?
[01:51:02] What's the, what's the actual statement?
[01:51:04] Like, what, what is, what is, I wish that they would just, I wish that they would
[01:51:08] just like openly say.
[01:51:09] I wish you would just openly say what she's talking about.
[01:51:11] Like, what is the statement that you disagree with?
[01:51:15] Right?
[01:51:15] Because there are certain things that people always point to
[01:51:19] that I do not shy away from defending.
[01:51:22] Right?
[01:51:22] The Hamas versus Israel one is a great example of this.
[01:51:26] Right?
[01:51:27] That's fine.
[01:51:28] Like, I have, I said that deliberately.
[01:51:31] I said that on purpose.
[01:51:32] I want you to argue against it.
[01:51:36] right? But whenever they just leave it at this like vague
[01:51:43] generalization, they're leaning into the already existing
[01:51:46] discourse in the media, it's intentionally vague, you could
[01:51:49] say that about anyone, you know, oh, well, he's just saying,
[01:51:53] this is out of context, or that is out of context is like,
[01:51:55] well, what do you want me to do? There are things that are
[01:51:58] in context, there are things that I have said that I mean,
[01:52:01] and I will defend them. And then there are things that are
[01:52:03] deliberately being misconstrued
[01:52:10] it's scary to watch that become part of our discourse and and part of our
[01:52:15] political system
[01:52:16] one thing that piker said that i did agree with was that being expressly
[01:52:20] against the occupation the apartheid will probably be a fixture in
[01:52:23] democratic primaries from now on and i think you know he's right about that
[01:52:27] and i also think when you look at the republican side we've got mike huckabee
[01:52:30] of all people
[01:52:32] going to the west bank to term as i had to a palestinian village
[01:52:36] uh... with eighty percent american citizens and being gauged i don't think
[01:52:39] we can extract any more israeli politics it israel and
[01:52:44] its policies from american politics and it's going the other way around to as
[01:52:48] we pointed out with the mondani role in the in the day in the channel campaign
[01:52:52] but also we didn't need him to say that like
[01:52:55] other people have been saying that exactly that
[01:53:00] You need to pull up your education car more, you're not interested in an educated, it doesn't matter.
[01:53:03] They let him undermine me. Anyway, it is kind of funny though. I'm still in awe by the casual
[01:53:07] elite has been that statement, like activist or typical PhDs. Yeah, I am educated on this issue.
[01:53:14] And I'm not only like, I'm not only just like well read on this issue, but I also am educated
[01:53:25] specifically on political science. Like I went to college for this. It's not,
[01:53:29] You know it's I have the credentials maybe the academic credentials are not up to par with what the media expects
[01:53:39] right
[01:53:41] Yeah, what you said isn't even that controversial among Democrats anymore 43% of Democrats chose Hamas over Israel from the GOP pollster. Yeah
[01:53:47] 7 out of 10 voters support Israel over Hamas in the conflict. The majority is across the spectrum.
[01:54:01] Yeah, 43% of Democrats chose Hamas. 32% of independents chose Hamas. And 16% of GOP chose
[01:54:13] Hamas over Israel. I know that this is a purposely negatively framed poll to try to get a supermajority
[01:54:26] support of Israel. That's why they present Israel versus Hamas. But again, 43% of Democrats in that
[01:54:35] That poll shows Hamas over Israel, okay?
[01:54:50] Without prompting a professor of rhetoric and communication from UWO is talking to the
[01:54:54] other day, defend your take, the academics are generally on your side, yes.
[01:54:58] But they also, these people also play fast and lose where they'll say the academics
[01:55:01] or out of touch with how to talk to the regular folks, but then they'll also say I talked too
[01:55:05] much like a non-academic and I'm careless with the language that I use. Do you understand?
[01:55:13] Because it's not about maintaining, it is not about maintaining a consistent position on this.
[01:55:22] It's about belittling, humiliating and attacking the opposition, not the opposition's
[01:55:30] message necessarily but the messenger organization that attacked on october
[01:55:34] seven and israel was working in defense of itself
[01:55:39] yeah and now we're gonna see how big that democratic tent really is does it
[01:55:43] support those who are anti-semitic i don't think so but here's the problem
[01:55:48] a san piker has moved the entire democratic party
[01:55:51] all the way to the far left and whether or not he wins certain candidates in
[01:55:55] twenty twenty six
[01:55:57] He's already pushed the party so far left.
[01:55:59] The DSA is no longer working within the margins
[01:56:02] of American politics.
[01:56:03] The DSA has become the new Democratic Party,
[01:56:06] and we see that in the money and the energy.
[01:56:08] All of it is being funneled to DSA candidates.
[01:56:11] We saw in the fundraising over the summer in Nantucket,
[01:56:14] in the Hamptons, in Silicon Valley, and Napa Valley.
[01:56:18] So all the money is there.
[01:56:19] How is the DMC going to play this
[01:56:22] if there is no money for the midterms and for 2028?
[01:56:25] they're essentially defunding the D and C.
[01:56:29] So, you know, the establishment Democrats now have a problem,
[01:56:31] the Hassan-Piker problem,
[01:56:33] in that they want his large online base,
[01:56:36] which is filled with young voters.
[01:56:38] Hassan-Piker, DSA, they're able to energize young voters
[01:56:42] to rage vote almost, we saw it during the primaries.
[01:56:45] Right, rage vote.
[01:56:48] They don't think that he is going to work
[01:56:50] for the older establishment Democrat voters,
[01:56:52] especially the black voters,
[01:56:54] and especially the Hispanic voters whose families
[01:56:57] fled from socialism.
[01:56:58] Doug, messaging is everything.
[01:57:00] So where is Abdul al-Said in his messaging
[01:57:03] in denouncing Piker's comments?
[01:57:05] Because that's what needs to happen
[01:57:07] in order to just put the Piker story to rest
[01:57:09] and move on past this guy,
[01:57:11] because I am tired of talking about him.
[01:57:15] I agree with you and I agree with what Angie said.
[01:57:17] Do you?
[01:57:19] Well, I guess we found bipartisan consensus, dude.
[01:57:24] I'm shocked. I'm shocked at an establishment Democrat
[01:57:30] Staffer for John Hicken pooper
[01:57:34] Would find himself agreeing with a Republican consultant on the reactionary news network Fox News
[01:57:42] Shocked. Well, I guess we found bipartisanship
[01:57:46] Also, additionally funny that she said
[01:57:49] I'm sick and tired of talking about Hassan piger. No the fuck you're not
[01:57:52] you love you love it you love it I wish I wish you'd shut the fuck up I think the
[01:57:59] problem is is this big tent nonsense is just that I mean the party with radical
[01:58:07] ideas radical leaders and part of the problem is he's more than just a
[01:58:12] relevant distraction this guy is campaigning with Abdul also he was
[01:58:17] promoting Malak ki Rous in Colorado's campaign was gonna do events for other
[01:58:21] other Democrats who's been aligned with them, Donnie.
[01:58:24] I mean, this is more than just a distraction.
[01:58:27] This is a guy who's trying to move his philosophies,
[01:58:29] which are totally out of touch
[01:58:32] with Democrat philosophies and mainstream Americans.
[01:58:35] I mean, philosophies about ending the Supreme Court,
[01:58:38] ending the electoral college, defunding,
[01:58:40] not just defunding the police,
[01:58:43] but during a very significant way,
[01:58:45] abolishing ICE, providing amnesty to immigrants.
[01:58:49] these positions are out of touch with Americans and they are dangerous.
[01:58:53] Yeah.
[01:58:55] Abolishing ICE is popular
[01:58:57] and providing amnesty to
[01:58:59] undocumented Americans is also more popular than mass deportation.
[01:59:04] It has always been historically the most popular option.
[01:59:07] Also,
[01:59:08] you know who did that?
[01:59:09] Ronald Reagan did that.
[01:59:10] The fuck are we talking about?
[01:59:13] Yeah, I'd like Piker to take a hike and maybe take them Donnie with him.
[01:59:16] I mean, if I have to say in the matter.
[01:59:18] Anyway, all right. Thank you both Angie Wong and Doug Friednach. Awesome. Yeah.
[01:59:23] Democratic strategist agreeing with the Fox news host that mom Donnie also needs
[01:59:27] to take a hike.
[01:59:48] So, imagine if Republican Senate candidates were out there campaigning with Nick Fuentes.
[02:00:00] That's what Hassan Piker is.
[02:00:01] Hassan Piker is the Nick Fuentes of the left, and you've got Democratic candidates, so-called
[02:00:06] mainstream candidates, who are refusing to condemn and refusing and campaigning with
[02:00:09] them.
[02:00:10] by the way
[02:00:12] of course mike thyssen
[02:00:13] uh... piece in
[02:00:14] uh... says this
[02:00:18] i would be scared of realizes like this doesn't actually
[02:00:21] harm me
[02:00:22] or the way people perceive me this is legitimizes nick went as and they're
[02:00:26] fucking stupid
[02:00:29] this is guy is an anti-semite a communist
[02:00:32] where's it now suit
[02:00:33] uh... says that we bought nine eleven on ourselves and he is the face
[02:00:37] of the democratic party
[02:00:38] So imagine if Republicans said, but yeah, with the 25th anniversary of 9 11 around the corner with the Kirk anniversary one year, this is we're nearing one AK one after Kirk and the Republican convention that's taking place starting Wednesday, just understand.
[02:01:08] That there is going to be a lot more of this in this upcoming week. Okay. A lot more of this in the upcoming week.
[02:01:23] The Dems are going to campaign Ultra Center right again, underperform in the midterms because of it and then blame you specifically.
[02:01:28] We're not going to let them. We're not going to let them. That's the important thing here. We're just not going to let them do that.
[02:01:34] that we can't let them do that. That is not going to happen. Okay. Is this the democratic
[02:01:46] strategies?
[02:01:47] Socialists aren't just a fringe fraction of the Democrat Party anymore. This is just
[02:01:52] about the majority of the Democrat Party. And these are the ones that are winning
[02:01:56] elections. If you look at the primaries in all 50 states, the socialists are the
[02:02:00] ones that are emerging from the primaries.
[02:02:03] Republicans making the fight against socialism a mainstay in their midterm messaging as far
[02:02:09] left figures are gathering in Chicago this Labor Day weekend for the socialism 2026 conference.
[02:02:14] By the way, today is day three of four and this all comes as the far left continues to
[02:02:18] search across the country. Fox News actually had a chance to speak with organizers and
[02:02:22] speakers at the conference, including Contra, Versio, Streamer, Hassan, Piker.
[02:02:27] What the fuck? What is this creep shot, brother? What is happening?
[02:02:35] Bruh. They filmed me like fucking Bigfoot Sliding. They filmed like a goddamn Bigfoot Sliding.
[02:02:47] Gets me to address the gathering for a second time this afternoon.
[02:02:51] Madeline Rivera has the very latest on that for us. Hi, Maddy.
[02:02:54] Hi, good afternoon Kevin. So this year's socialism conference is co-exciting with Labor Day weekend,
[02:02:59] which is generally seen as the start of the general election season. Attendees say the
[02:03:04] annual event is bigger this year than it has been in previous years, and they want to propel that
[02:03:09] energy to expand their footprint. The national co-chair of the Democratic Socialists of America,
[02:03:14] Meghan Romer, says they're going to be all gas and no brakes, her words, trying to get not
[02:03:20] not just their primary winners elected, but also down-ballot candidates, including mayors,
[02:03:25] state-house representatives, and city council members.
[02:03:28] Democratic leaders have insisted on building a big tent, but in a new piece, the Washington
[02:03:33] Post editorial board warns of the challenges ahead for Democrats.
[02:03:37] They say Democrats are now experiencing their own version of a Tea Party movement in the
[02:03:41] form of the Democratic Socialists of America, and the party establishment hopes that
[02:03:46] Unlike their GOP counterparts, they can channel and control the infusion of energy.
[02:03:52] Spoiler alert, it will be harder than they think.
[02:03:55] And one of the issues that Democrats have to navigate is how to deal with streamer Hassan
[02:03:59] Piker.
[02:04:00] In an interview with Fox News, Piker indicates he's not going to tone down his rhetoric
[02:04:05] just because someone finds it problematic.
[02:04:07] I do this because I believe it.
[02:04:09] My overarching goals are not necessarily just to help Democrats win elections.
[02:04:20] I am a commentator, I'm an analyst, I'm a socialist, I'm an anti-imperialist, and my role, my
[02:04:28] primary responsibility is to help people see a perspective that they might not have been
[02:04:34] privy to.
[02:04:35] Piker goes on to criticize Democrats for, quote, deploying a losing strategy with the
[02:04:40] in-fighting, but one man who fled socialist rule in Romania has a warning about the ideology.
[02:04:46] Under the socialists, they control the government, control everything.
[02:04:51] They control population, they control any part of our life.
[02:04:57] The ideology is not good for the population.
[02:05:02] It's not good for our young generation to go into that.
[02:05:07] As the Socialism Conference was underway, Hotel World-
[02:05:10] He just- he fucking owned me.
[02:05:11] What can I say?
[02:05:14] Destroyed.
[02:05:17] Workers are spotted on Saturday protesting outside a Hyatt Retency Hotel where the-
[02:05:22] I love that they found a Romanian aunt.
[02:05:27] That is being held.
[02:05:28] of employees have been demonstrating for contracts with better pay and benefits.
[02:05:33] Madeleine Rivera for us in the nation's capital.
[02:05:35] Maddie, thank you as always.
[02:05:36] Appreciate that for more on this.
[02:05:37] Let's bring in Democratic strategist Megan Hayes and Dr. Kevin Roberts, president of
[02:05:42] the Heritage Foundation.
[02:05:43] Great to have you both.
[02:05:44] Megan, I'm going to begin with you.
[02:05:46] I know that Democrats love to talk about taxing the billionaires and the trillionaires
[02:05:50] and they also love to say, listen, this is all about taxing the rich and yet.
[02:05:56] They talk a little socialism on the side, but they also like to hang out in Tony areas
[02:06:00] like, I don't know, Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard.
[02:06:03] Let me share a little headline.
[02:06:05] I want to get your reaction to this.
[02:06:06] This is actually, I thought this was great.
[02:06:09] The headline, Dems to Send on Posh Island Getaway Packed with Deep-Pocketed Donors
[02:06:13] as the midterms close in.
[02:06:17] So what gives, Megan?
[02:06:18] I mean, this is a fake controversy.
[02:06:21] You know that, that article even said that Republicans are also fundraising in Nantucket
[02:06:24] and Martha's Vineyard.
[02:06:26] go where the money is and that's what you're doing it's extremely expensive to
[02:06:28] run campaigns
[02:06:30] i think the bigger question here is what are their policies what are they going
[02:06:32] to do to lower health care and lower the cost of groceries and gas and if
[02:06:35] democrats want to put four solutions they're going to win in november
[02:06:38] doctor kevin before going in i just got a follow-up they get that
[02:06:41] the republicans aren't talking the talk about all stay away from rich people
[02:06:46] and then going to hang out with them to try to get money at the
[02:06:49] republicans were servants of capital and we're open about it
[02:06:53] democrats on the other hand
[02:06:55] are also servants of capital and they're also open about it and that's why they keep yelling
[02:07:00] at their socialist flank.
[02:07:02] It's not like you see socialists going on the fucking Nantucket island trip.
[02:07:12] This interest them's going there aren't talking about it either.
[02:07:14] Yeah, it's not like it's not like the right wing Democrats are like, oh man, we, we really
[02:07:21] want to, you know, we really want to make sure that billionaires don't exist or
[02:07:24] whatever the fuck, they're not. They're super, they're, they're two sides of the
[02:07:28] same coin. They are both servants of capital from the rich. Can you see what
[02:07:32] I'm saying there? Absolutely. But you also have to have money to run elections
[02:07:36] or to win elections and to run campaigns. That's right. Controversy here,
[02:07:41] but much to do about nothing. Gotta have some money. You can't hate the people
[02:07:45] who are also going to help make your politics possible. All right, just to
[02:07:48] give me a group to make it. I love having you on the show. All right,
[02:07:51] Kevin, let me ask you.
[02:07:53] I think there's an argument to be made there that listen, they have to go wherever they
[02:07:57] can go to get the resources in order to advance their messaging.
[02:08:01] So you can kind of see Meghan's argument.
[02:08:03] Yes?
[02:08:04] Up to a point.
[02:08:05] I mean, Meghan's a great American, but I would have to say that ultimately that analysis
[02:08:09] is wrong for this reason.
[02:08:10] As you just said, Kevin, the Republicans go to places where there's money, but
[02:08:14] they are not the Democrat socialists of America who are telling us that they want to
[02:08:18] redistribute America's wealth.
[02:08:20] They want to end the Senate, they want to end the Electoral College.
[02:08:23] And so there is a hypocrisy there that actually highlights the very thing that those of us
[02:08:28] on the right need to be explaining to the American voters.
[02:08:30] What are your thoughts on the fitness and leftist-paces debate?
[02:08:34] Please, if you subscribe, you can rewind.
[02:08:36] I talked about it extensively for like the first hour and a half.
[02:08:40] I think everybody knows my position on physical fitness in general.
[02:08:43] I think everyone should do it.
[02:08:45] Everyone should work out to the best of their ability, you know?
[02:08:50] Which is that every time socialism, communism, Marxism has been tried, there hasn't been a leveling of that wealth.
[02:08:58] There hasn't been a benefit reaped by individual everyday Americans. It's actually been...
[02:09:03] There's literally not a single communist society that has not dramatically improved literacy rates, healthcare accessibility, food accessibility.
[02:09:15] Not a single one that has failed to do that.
[02:09:17] There have been excesses. There have been issues with collectivization.
[02:09:22] There have been tremendous amounts of obviously warfare that they also engaged in at the time, you know.
[02:09:31] But the idea that like, post-revolution Cuba was not better off for every single individual in comparison to pre-revolution Cuba is ridiculous.
[02:09:42] Okay. Time after time. With the only exception being obviously Pol Pot who, you know, you can, you can argue whether there was anything communist happening there or not.
[02:09:57] I personally don't think the Khmer Rouge were communists so much as they were insane.
[02:10:07] But once again, once again, the idea that the USSR, Cuba, Cuba wasn't even a communist
[02:10:23] revolution, ironically enough, it was a national agrarian revolution, it was a national revolution,
[02:10:28] it was a social revolution, it was not communist.
[02:10:33] There were communists that participated in the revolution, but it turned into a communist
[02:10:39] revolution after the national struggle for emancipation succeeded.
[02:10:47] The wealth has actually been concentrated in the hands of a few.
[02:10:50] And so if we could prosecute that case for the midterms, then we're not only going
[02:10:54] to win this year, we will continue what is going to be a golden age, eliminating
[02:10:59] this hypocrisy of the radical left.
[02:11:02] points there. Let me ask you about Hassan Piker, the both of you. Megan, I've had a
[02:11:07] chance to discuss this with you. And I think the point you've made previously is you don't
[02:11:12] have to agree with everything with what someone says for them to be an effective voice. But
[02:11:17] I'm just curious, shouldn't the socialists separate from the Democrat Party and have
[02:11:22] their own thing? Because I think the risk for Democrats is, as long as their policies
[02:11:27] are equated with what the Democrats traditionally have stood for, that might be a negative
[02:11:32] come to mid-times. Your thoughts? Yeah, absolutely. I've been very clear that the Socialist Party is,
[02:11:37] the DSA is not. Yeah, Democrats are fucking stupid by the way. That would be the greatest gift of
[02:11:42] all time to the Republicans for the record. Straight up. That would be the greatest gift
[02:11:48] of all time. They are, any Democrat that says Socialists should branch off and DSA should
[02:11:54] create its own party is the dumbest rub of all time. Because as it stands, it is certainly
[02:12:01] more beneficial for Democrats to continue this allegiance, to have this big tent,
[02:12:08] okay, to continue maintaining this big tent, because otherwise neither the socialists nor
[02:12:15] the Democrats will ever win another election ever again. And this country will continue along its
[02:12:23] direction towards illiberal, post-liberal, whatever you want to call it, fascist governance,
[02:12:29] Okay, it'll you will never win neither the socialist nor the democrats in the interim in the next like
[02:12:36] You know 10 years will ever win another election ever again. It will only be run by the republican party
[02:12:48] It would end the democrats
[02:12:50] I certainly believe that it would be a beneficial for socialists in the long run
[02:12:54] But it would definitely end the Democrats in the short term and it would be virtually impossible for socialists to organize in the short term as well
[02:13:02] So any Democrat that runs around saying like oh, no just branch office start your own party's a fucking idiot, okay?
[02:13:09] Democrats they shouldn't be in the Democratic Party. They should not be running in Democrats and elections
[02:13:13] We Democrats as a whole should not be supporting them and also with Hassan piker
[02:13:18] He is disgusting. He's misogynist. He should not even be platformed and he should not be in the Democratic Party
[02:13:22] I don't know that he actually is a Democrat, but he should not even be no candidate running
[02:13:26] or an elected official should be anywhere near his son.
[02:13:29] Yeah.
[02:13:30] Especially when you look at their agenda, Dr. Kevin, it seems to me that if you're a moderate
[02:13:35] middle American, that might be a fairly, yeah, I, I don't think these guys understand
[02:13:40] what they're doing.
[02:13:41] Um, again, this kind of coverage is good.
[02:13:44] This kind of coverage is good for us.
[02:13:46] so good for us because you keep going on Fox News to agree with the reactionary framing.
[02:13:56] Liberals see that and they're going to go, yeah, fuck both of these people.
[02:13:59] No, we're with them. We're with the actual anti-Trump force. We're with the actual force
[02:14:04] that is against Fox News. The actual force that is against Trumpism. We are the ones who are
[02:14:09] sincerely against Trumpism. Difficult self. You are collaborating with the fascists.
[02:14:14] Even if you might be slightly left leaning and I think that's the real danger for the Democrats as we get closer to the midterms
[02:14:21] It's a huge danger
[02:14:22] There's a report out just in the last few days as the two of you know about the danger of
[02:14:27] The Democrat socialists of America agenda especially with Hispanic voters in places like Arizona and Florida
[02:14:34] And why is that because that entire agenda is making once again to be attacked by the enemy is
[02:14:41] Not a bad thing, but a good thing
[02:14:44] If you would like to draw the line of demarcation, go right ahead.
[02:14:51] It has indicated, is radical.
[02:14:54] It's something that voters in the center simply can't understand, but to be really blunt,
[02:14:58] probably three-quarters of American voters would be opposed to it.
[02:15:01] The problem for the Democrat Party as we sit here having this conversation
[02:15:05] is that almost all, almost all, the energy and money on the left
[02:15:09] is around the Democrat Socialists of America.
[02:15:12] So, I would be far more worried if I were on the left about electoral prospects than
[02:15:17] I am about those for my friends on the right, because on the right, in this coming week
[02:15:22] in the Dallas midterm convention, I think we're going to see all of those leaders starting
[02:15:26] with President Trump prosecute the case against this nonsense.
[02:15:29] Yeah, and what's really going to be very challenging as well is whether or not they
[02:15:34] have the
[02:15:35] And Democrats have fallen for it hook, line and sinker by in some instances offering
[02:15:41] new lines of attack to the republicans
[02:15:44] third-way
[02:15:45] near-attendant shannon watz
[02:15:48] all these other people that are actively and aggressively posturing as their
[02:15:51] left-flank against myself
[02:15:53] as a representative of the left-flank
[02:15:55] are basically signaling to the republicans like here are the avenues of
[02:16:00] attack
[02:16:01] those people are stupid
[02:16:02] they don't realize
[02:16:05] from the perspective of the republicans
[02:16:08] who want to win there is no
[02:16:10] Functional difference between Nancy Pelosi and someone like myself
[02:16:14] They oppose us all of us because we oppose them
[02:16:19] Okay, they don't care about the areas of agreement that establishment Democrats have none of them
[02:16:25] Are going to turn around and say well this Democratic consultant is actually reasonable
[02:16:30] We should vote for this Democratic consultants candidate. That's never going to happen. Okay, you will also be considered a communist in their eyes
[02:16:39] No matter how much you try to run away from the moniker because at the end of the day it is black and white
[02:16:46] Right. It's a two-party system. You either vote for one party or the other and
[02:16:52] Ironically enough the Republican Party understands that reality and that's why they're trying to actively
[02:16:58] Separate the base of support amongst the Democrats because they know that's the only way they can win
[02:17:03] We're holding on strong regardless
[02:17:05] But these people, unironically, these people unironically, lean into this shit thinking that somehow this is going to be beneficial for them.
[02:17:15] That Republicans are gonna say, well you guys are the reasonable people. You're fucking stupid, okay? They do not think you are reasonable.
[02:17:21] They do not care how reasonable you are. They see you as a sucker and a rube. Do you understand? You are a sucker and a rube.
[02:17:32] You will also, at the end of the day, be thrown in the camps alongside us.
[02:17:39] That's it.
[02:17:45] Resources to compete. We talked earlier about heading out to the
[02:17:48] vineyard to try to rustle up some dollars, but the truth of the matter is
[02:17:52] right now, in terms of cash on hand, they've got an incredible uphill battle.
[02:17:56] We'll see how it all goes. Megan, thanks as always.
[02:17:58] Appreciate it. Kevin Roberts as well.
[02:18:00] Thank you so much for joining us.
[02:18:02] Thank you.
[02:18:03] Thank you very much.
[02:18:05] Be sure to like and subscribe.
[02:18:06] Be sure to subscribe on the right, yeah.
[02:18:08] My frustration with the Democrats
[02:18:10] is they love looking at it.
[02:18:11] They love looking at gift horse in the mouth.
[02:18:14] They are willing to fight their own factional battles
[02:18:18] in this pivotal midterm season internally
[02:18:23] within the party, as opposed to fighting the Republicans.
[02:18:26] Just fight the Republicans.
[02:18:28] our left streamer Hassan piker talking exclusively with box news on saturday
[02:18:32] about the pushback the democratic socialists are getting from
[02:18:35] establishment democrats so we're back now with the panel
[02:18:39] mary i can see
[02:18:40] the heartburn
[02:18:43] let me know that the socialism conference uh... in chicago here are
[02:18:46] some of the breakouts
[02:18:48] letter writing to incarcerated comrades
[02:18:51] fighting for trans liberation in the midwest and neighbors get ready for
[02:18:55] New Solidarity's and a feeding ice. What does your party do with this? Well, that's not how I want to spend my Labor Day
[02:19:00] Well, now you didn't try to cater to the audience at all. Oh, no, not even I was very
[02:19:06] I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna say the truth
[02:19:14] This guy only has a console job because his name is term secure basically false advertising
[02:19:21] Look I I
[02:19:23] I do not like a lot, certainly Hassan Piker and the things that he says about Israel or
[02:19:29] other issues.
[02:19:30] What I will say is that when we talk to voters in swing states, we hear a couple of things.
[02:19:35] Number one, the Democrats are actually, they're not running these far left candidates except
[02:19:38] for in Michigan, which is different.
[02:19:40] No, no, Colorado, New York, Florida, New York's not a swing state.
[02:19:44] What we're talking about, Florida, Iowa, what we're talking about, Iowa, Ohio,
[02:19:49] North Carolina, Kansas, right?
[02:19:52] Democrats have found a way to run candidates, including for the House, that match their
[02:19:57] districts.
[02:19:58] We should also say, and people on the right have said this, that the DSA in the far left
[02:20:02] has found a way to energize voters, to actually bring in a lot of Trump voters with kind of
[02:20:07] a pseudo-populous message.
[02:20:09] We saw that with Mom Donnie Trump voters.
[02:20:11] AOC?
[02:20:12] Yeah, Sherrod Brown isn't a centrist.
[02:20:14] Sherrod Brown is one of the more progressive figures in the party.
[02:20:17] Maybe not all the way there when it comes to socially being progressive, but he
[02:20:21] He has always been a pro-labor union guy.
[02:20:25] His advocacy in Ohio has been to lower the age eligibility requirement for Medicare
[02:20:33] down to 54, I believe, or 45 if I'm not mistaken.
[02:20:37] So he's not running a campaign that is like first and foremost putting transgender issues
[02:20:47] on the forefront, but he absolutely is a further to the left candidate than than one that you
[02:20:56] see in even, you know, bluer areas. Trump voters, they exist. There's a lot of them. And so all
[02:21:01] of the parties could learn about how to actually talk to voters about what they care about,
[02:21:06] get some of that energy, that organizing capability. But look, if Republicans think
[02:21:11] they can have some convention that no one goes to and talk about socialists while gas prices
[02:21:15] are through the roof, fertilizer prices are through the roof, we're still in Iran.
[02:21:19] I want a DSA now.
[02:21:20] But if they think the DSA message is what's going to win them this election, Democrats
[02:21:25] are going to have a great night in November.
[02:21:26] We'll get to that convention.
[02:21:27] We're going to talk about that in just a minute.
[02:21:28] But Stephen A. Smith is out there who, listen, he's got after Dumbs and Republicans,
[02:21:31] but he thinks Democrats need to get a handle on this DSA thing.
[02:21:35] He says, end, I quote, tell them to sit there blank down and get with the program
[02:21:40] work.
[02:21:41] Imagine if Republican Senate candidates were out there campaigning with Nick Fuentes.
[02:21:47] That's what Hassan Piker is.
[02:21:48] Hassan Piker is the Nick Fuentes of the left.
[02:21:51] And you've got Democratic candidates, so-called mainstream candidates, who are refusing to
[02:21:54] condemn and refusing and campaigning with him.
[02:21:57] This guy is an anti-Semite, a communist, wears a Mao suit, says that we've brought 9-11
[02:22:03] on ourselves, and he is the face of the Democratic Party right now.
[02:22:07] And I will say in terms of these midterms, I remember, you know, everybody's expecting
[02:22:11] a big blue wave and it's probably coming.
[02:22:13] I think that's the likely outcome.
[02:22:16] But I remember in 2022, when we were all expecting a big red wave in 2022, and Biden was ahead,
[02:22:23] the worst inflation in four decades, border crisis, Afghan withdrawal, all these disasters,
[02:22:27] he put in the best midterm performance of any president since JFK.
[02:22:31] Why?
[02:22:32] Because we picked, the Republicans picked a lot of bad candidates.
[02:22:35] Herschel Walker, Dan Baldock, you know, you go down the list, Blake Matthews.
[02:22:40] Dude, comparing like Maylock Kuros, the Herschel Walker is so funny.
[02:22:46] Like this is the issue.
[02:22:48] You're comparing Abdul El Sayed to Herschel Walker.
[02:22:51] Herschel Walker wasn't just bad ideologically.
[02:22:54] He was just a bad candidate across the board.
[02:22:56] Okay.
[02:22:57] Abdul El Sayed is a very strong candidate, both ideologically, both with his policies
[02:23:03] and certainly as a charismatic orator
[02:23:09] hershal walker literally pulled out like a fake detectives badge was a little
[02:23:12] i'm a detective
[02:23:14] on the camp on the on the debate stage
[02:23:17] he had visible brain damage
[02:23:19] and you're over here comparing
[02:23:22] you're over here comparing hershal fucking walker
[02:23:24] to obdulance and it's ridiculous
[02:23:27] it you are out of touch of courses you know mark the sin uh... mark the sin
[02:23:31] is uh... huge
[02:23:33] booster of trumps will war against
[02:23:38] uh... trumps war against uh... uh... iran right
[02:23:47] sisters now what are the democrats doing
[02:23:50] dot abdul al sayeed
[02:23:51] grand platner replaced by troi jackson
[02:23:54] uh... in a uh... james talarico
[02:23:56] they're doing the same stupid thing
[02:23:58] in picking really bad candidates in some of these important swing states is
[02:24:01] It's not just the blue states getting bluer.
[02:24:04] It's Michigan.
[02:24:05] It's Maine states that they have to win.
[02:24:08] Now we also picked Ken Paxley.
[02:24:10] We're not perfect.
[02:24:12] But I don't think we should assume the blue wave is going to happen the way we expected
[02:24:18] to just like the red wave didn't happen.
[02:24:20] All right.
[02:24:21] I want to get a quick comment from you, Michael, about the DSA.
[02:24:23] Because the Washington Post editorial board has this warning thing out there for Democrats
[02:24:26] saying if you think it's going to be as easy as to control as the Tea Party as the
[02:24:29] GOP did.
[02:24:30] They say spoiler alert, it's gonna be harder than you think.
[02:24:33] Harder than they think, and this is the gift that keeps on giving for republicans.
[02:24:37] And as we go to this national convention down here, I hope it succeeds in sort of casting
[02:24:42] the democrats nationwide as the socialist party.
[02:24:46] But look, at the end of the day, it's about meat and potatoes.
[02:24:49] It's about turning out.
[02:24:52] How can I remove having a sub on this channel?
[02:24:53] I don't want it.
[02:24:55] I don't think you can, buddy.
[02:24:57] You are my number one fan.
[02:25:00] You are my number one fan, maybe even a lover, and everyone will know forever, Shibiku, Shibiku.
[02:25:11] You are my biggest fan, and not only my biggest fan, but the biggest fan of communism as well.
[02:25:17] Too bad, you're stuck.
[02:25:21] Our voters, the Trump voters, or else we lose the House of Representatives.
[02:25:25] Trump can activate these so-called low-prepensity voters, folks that don't necessarily show
[02:25:30] up on midterm elections that we have to spend the money deploy the president to the right
[02:25:35] districts let you're both woke and gay now I heard she be cool as commie is it true yes
[02:25:43] gay and libtarded and communist true it's true everybody knows it's flexibility where
[02:25:52] they need it to contrast themselves with the administration that's the only way to
[02:25:55] again shit this chat is so hard I can't even read the replies yeah see in typical
[02:26:02] commie manner he can't even read fast enough because he's gotten dumber that's
[02:26:07] right you're a commie now buddy
[02:26:12] right investigations into ballrooms world liberty financial and of course
[02:26:20] partners.
[02:26:24] Pelosi Omar back Trump proposal and major twist.
[02:26:27] What?
[02:26:28] Former Trump campaign deputy comms director Caroline Sunshine joins Fox and
[02:26:31] Friends, this grow the OK.
[02:26:33] Well, I'm skipping.
[02:26:38] Joe Rogan is now a socialist.
[02:26:41] We're going to be getting to that in a second.
[02:26:45] Pointless chat, bro.
[02:26:48] Is it pointless?
[02:26:50] Is it pointless you're going to prison they're gonna put you in commie prison. They know you're a commie now
[02:26:58] Welcome to the club buddy. You are a communist
[02:27:06] Somewhere around four minutes sunshine talks to you. Oh
[02:27:12] There's more clips from this interview
[02:27:14] Thank you.
[02:27:15] Hasan Piker actually says, you're talking about some of Trump's wins and how bold he's
[02:27:19] been as a populist and a nationalist.
[02:27:23] Hasan Piker says that the Dems and the Socialists should learn from that watch.
[02:27:27] Is there anything you think the Democrats should learn, having learned from the so-called
[02:27:34] negative movement in how they're able to mask political power?
[02:27:38] I say it all the time, be bold.
[02:27:40] Be bold, be brave.
[02:27:41] I think, I mean, I disagree with Damier everything Donald Trump says.
[02:27:46] Having said that, however, he is a bouldering force.
[02:27:51] And it is undeniable that he was able to break the backs of the Republican establishment.
[02:27:56] Is the vision that the Sampakar High School of America still the wealthiest country in
[02:28:02] the world, still a military secret power, a place where people from overseas come
[02:28:06] to get the best medical treatment, do you think all those things are attainable
[02:28:10] I think those things are only attainable in the socialist future vision because right
[02:28:17] now we're losing sight of that.
[02:28:20] Our allies, men adversaries alike, now view China in a more favorable manner than they
[02:28:25] view us.
[02:28:27] And that's crazy to me.
[02:28:29] So aside from the fact that he's a millionaire from Southern California, housing, you know,
[02:28:36] communism he's got a point and to be fair the energy in the Democrat Party much
[02:28:44] of what Charlie was alluding to is with guys like this not with Hakeem Jeffries
[02:28:48] and certainly not with Chuck Schumer. Well certainly their party's going through
[02:28:52] a little bit actually of what the Republican Party went through in 2016
[02:28:55] when MAGA was the insurgent force and really took the party over. I've never
[02:29:00] met Hassan. He came for me on X the other day because I was calling out
[02:29:03] one of his friends saying that, hey, you know, James Tolerico says, God is non-binary.
[02:29:07] You guys good with that?
[02:29:09] You want to answer for that?
[02:29:10] And that really triggered him.
[02:29:11] So hi, Hassan.
[02:29:12] Um, but I think it's important for us on the right.
[02:29:16] Let's get our own voices.
[02:29:21] I mean, I'm fine, I look just listen to the words instead of getting stuck on the optics
[02:29:39] of it.
[02:29:40] Right.
[02:29:41] Out there, you know, 2028 is going to be Gen Z and millennials combined are the biggest
[02:29:49] portion of the electorate.
[02:29:50] They're gonna have the most voting power for the first time ever. So Hassan is an influential voice on the left
[02:29:55] I'm not sure he's going anywhere. I think that's irrelevant and we get our own people our own voices
[02:30:01] You say our voices so what is that voice saying?
[02:30:05] That the American dream is attainable for you
[02:30:10] Okay, okay
[02:30:15] Sure
[02:30:17] I'm another Democrat socialist gaining ground this time in New Hampshire, where Chris Papas
[02:30:24] is facing a primary challenge from Karishma Manzor.
[02:30:27] Now Papas is refusing to endorse by Bloch's cast, Karishma Manzor, condemn socialism before
[02:30:35] tomorrow's Senate primary watch.
[02:30:38] I think we need a big tent and need to be bringing new voices into the Democratic
[02:30:42] Party in order to compete and win tough elections.
[02:30:45] And so I'll be supporting the ticket.
[02:30:46] Mr. Pappas, you voted no on a recent resolution condemning socialism.
[02:30:50] Will you make your position crystal clear here tonight for viewers?
[02:30:53] Where do you stand on socialism?
[02:30:55] This is an existential moment for American democracy.
[02:30:59] We have to stand up to the lawlessness and recklessness of Donald Trump,
[02:31:02] the incompetence that we see every day,
[02:31:04] the corruption that is just out in the open.
[02:31:06] We're only going to do that if we build a big coalition.
[02:31:10] Joining me now is former Libertarian Presidential Candidate Austin Peterson.
[02:31:15] dude libertarians on Fox News shooting on socialism is so funny it's like
[02:31:21] buddy buddy you're a third party you're at your third party you should at least
[02:31:25] like sympathize with socialism from that perspective you know Newsom will
[02:31:29] eventually have to make the case of them voters while he was happy to yuck it
[02:31:32] up with Steve Bannon but considers piker beyond the pale yeah agreed Gavin
[02:31:40] Newsom backtracks on commitment to speed with his on piker now saying
[02:31:42] he has no plans to appear on piker show I'm not chasing him quite the
[02:31:44] Contrary and he can't stand me so he's no fan of mine
[02:31:48] Yeah, buddy. It's because I'm a taxpayer in the state of California. Okay, it's because you're my goddamn governor. I
[02:31:55] Know you better than everybody else does around the country. Okay, perhaps that's the reason
[02:32:03] He can't even face his goddamn to lay Gavin you already glazed yet look
[02:32:08] But if Newsom runs on universal healthcare, can you win?
[02:32:12] No, I think he's, I've said this already, he's getting, he's getting a lot of favor from
[02:32:18] liberals right now.
[02:32:20] It's so funny because if he knows a track, he 1000% knows you, what a dodge by him.
[02:32:24] No, no, no, he has brought me up in a favorable way as well.
[02:32:27] He however has not, like I've talked to people in his team about having him on.
[02:32:36] I've talked to I've talked to people in the team about having a mom, but they're ducking me. They're steady ducking me
[02:32:51] Yeah, he's glazed me before publicly when Connor asked about
[02:33:00] The big Dems don't like you at all anymore. We what do you mean? They've never liked me
[02:33:06] Guys
[02:33:09] Gavin Newsom is an establishment Democrat who wants to win on the on the right-wing ticket like he is going to be
[02:33:15] One of the most right-wing candidates in 2028
[02:33:21] Anymore this isn't new
[02:33:24] Let's not be ridiculous. It's fine
[02:33:29] Of course, they don't like me. Why would they I'm a socialist they want to preserve the status quo
[02:33:34] So, we want to break it, we want to rebuild a more just and equitable society.
[02:33:52] Lemonace Dan had a segment where Atriak shared Platinum's manager told him he was too controversial
[02:33:56] for an interview.
[02:33:58] Who?
[02:34:00] Atriac said I was too controversial or Atriac an advisor for Plattner told
[02:34:10] I'm confused by how you describe this
[02:34:23] Atriac was too controversial to speak with
[02:34:27] Atriac
[02:34:29] Platner's manager, Graham Platner said, I can't talk to Atriach.
[02:34:39] That's kind of funny. I'm not gonna lie.
[02:34:44] That's insane. Dude, Graham, Graham, Graham Platner with his totem cough was like,
[02:34:51] God, honestly, I can't. I mean, I, I assume he didn't have a say in this, but I assume
[02:34:57] the fucking big A. Oh my God. Listen. That's, that's crazy. I mean, they were, they were
[02:35:16] shy about, uh, you know, uh, talking to me as well. So I guess they were, they, they
[02:35:22] have a keen eye for this kind of stuff, you know,
[02:35:33] this race is tightening rapidly from when we first started seeing some pulling
[02:35:37] in April to now, and we're talking like 30 points in a matter of months.
[02:35:41] So Pappas of course is pandering to the far left, but could that backfire
[02:35:45] spectacularly come November in a state where I don't know, live free or die is on the license plates.
[02:35:52] New Hampshire is a very libertarian state to be fair, but that also makes it more interesting.
[02:35:59] One of those states that could go in either direction, like you could have,
[02:36:04] you could genuinely have like, you know, libertarian New Hampshire rights be like,
[02:36:08] yeah, I like the socialism stuff. I think it's closer to my worldview. You know what I mean?
[02:36:12] That's right. Good morning, Todd. Nice to see you. Thanks for having me.
[02:36:14] tomorrow the new hamster democrats are going to pick their senate nominee
[02:36:18] gene shaheen is retiring the congressman chris pappas he's got all the
[02:36:22] establishment is this thing is name wrong is a bit you pronounce username
[02:36:25] wrong is a bit you've known this guy for years
[02:36:28] what am i why can't you say his name right you know the guy for years what
[02:36:31] is the
[02:36:35] how do i say it what am i saying i'm confused
[02:36:40] Atriach. Okay, I apologize. Atriach. Atriach. Yeah, I mean, it's not even a word in the English
[02:36:52] language, man. What do you mean? Like, a big A.
[02:36:54] I said, big A.
[02:36:55] Christmomensur, she's the insurgent. She's a research scientist, which the left loves
[02:36:59] because of course they love to trust the science.
[02:37:01] Why are you presenting that as a negative? She's a research scientist. And of course
[02:37:08] the left love science. God damn it we are living in stupid town. Oh look at this
[02:37:17] woken gay as candidate with her research and her and her care and
[02:37:26] consideration for science and empirical evidence you guys are left are fucking
[02:37:32] so dumb and gay about their love for science.
[02:37:37] Ah.
[02:37:42] And I guess the worst aspect of this is it kind of hits.
[02:37:47] The worst part about this is that argument kind of fucking hits in America.
[02:37:51] Be America be here is that and goes, hell, yeah, brother.
[02:37:55] Science is walking gay.
[02:37:57] And that's why I hate the lab.
[02:37:59] open member of the democratic socialists of america she's like you said she
[02:38:04] close a fifty percent fifty point all
[02:38:07] a university new hampshire survey had pappas around forty seven in manzura
[02:38:11] on thirty four
[02:38:12] the she's got the younger socialist leading voters driving the surge that's
[02:38:16] why chris pappas is sweating there at the uh... lectern
[02:38:20] the forecasters are saying it still means democratic so the live for your
[02:38:23] died state is going to have their model put to the test
[02:38:26] tomorrow at the ballot box we will see uh... again i i understand i would say
[02:38:31] this i feel as i understand this in a state like new york or
[02:38:34] even in california but new hampshire
[02:38:37] i want to college up there for four years
[02:38:40] i mean maybe had some socialism college because you know colleges but the
[02:38:44] rest of the people in hampshire this is unreal how
[02:38:48] how much is this spreading lost
[02:38:50] it's pretty bad and when it's in new hampshire which has the only functional
[02:38:54] the libertarian movement in the country. You do have to wonder what's going on there.
[02:38:57] Manzura is kind of doing the Trotsky two-step. On TV, she says she's not into
[02:39:02] isms, and she calls herself a scientist first, but then in the same breath, she
[02:39:07] affirms her DSA membership, and she says there are wonderful things coming out of
[02:39:11] democratic socialism, but mostly it's refugees on life rafts, right? Her own
[02:39:16] priorities are like Medicare for all, affordable housing, banning big
[02:39:20] money and ending what she calls war profiteering.
[02:39:23] Peace action and progressive Democrats of America are in her corner.
[02:39:28] She's refusing corporate PAC money, which is fine, but as of mid-August reporting, the
[02:39:32] truth is, Pappus had raised more than $15 million.
[02:39:35] Man's there about 450,000, so if she loses, that's why.
[02:39:40] The mouthpiece for all of this controversial far left streamer, Hassan Piker, is brushing
[02:39:45] off Democrats who see him as a liability.
[02:39:49] Has anybody from the DNC, Democratic leadership, has there been any sort of conversation?
[02:39:58] No, no, I have not had a conversation with anyone from the DNC.
[02:40:03] They don't think they're too fond of me and they just don't want me to exist.
[02:40:09] They just don't want me to exist as a vehicle for left insurgent movements to grow within
[02:40:15] the ranks of the party.
[02:40:17] Austin, is he a liability or has he become the standard bearer for the Democrat Party?
[02:40:24] Well, at the Democrats answer that for you, he's, yeah, 2028 is going to be fucking crazy.
[02:40:29] Fox is already shitting their pants.
[02:40:33] Fox is already shitting their pants every day.
[02:40:38] And 2026 is not even done yet.
[02:40:41] 2028, I don't even know.
[02:40:43] I don't even know what it's going to look like.
[02:40:44] Oh my Lord, dude.
[02:40:46] They are obsessed and here's the thing with Fox and here's the thing with Republican strategy in general
[02:40:54] Once they identify an opponent, they don't stop. They never stop shitting on AOC. They do it every day
[02:41:01] Same with Zoramumdani same with the Democratic Socialist. So like from this point on
[02:41:09] Leading all the way in the 2028 and of course certainly after that as well
[02:41:13] So, we are always going to be, we are always going to be yelled at.
[02:41:21] We are always going to be lied about.
[02:41:23] It's something to always keep in mind, right?
[02:41:27] It's something to always consider when we put our best foot forward.
[02:41:31] Yes, we are, look, I like, that's why I jokingly said on the Rolling Stone article, like, I'm
[02:41:35] the new transgender.
[02:41:37] This is it.
[02:41:38] streamer they could pretend they never met. He campaigned with Abdul al-Sayed in Michigan.
[02:41:44] He helped the socialists blame when a Senate primary, and then as soon as primary was over,
[02:41:49] they tried to unperson him the second the general started. Now al-Sayed says he has
[02:41:54] no plans to campaign with him. Speaker Jeffries condemned the rhetoric, rascals.
[02:41:58] Yeah, saying the New Hampshire Libertarian Party is the most functional and so funny
[02:42:01] because it's the gripper one that the rest of the Libertarian Party has denounced
[02:42:04] and split officially from. They're just a Twitter Nazi posting operation who posts
[02:42:08] death threats and have no elected offices I know. They're the ones who also defended the monarchy.
[02:42:17] They're the ones who defended New Hampshire Libertarian Party is the one that also was pro-monarchy
[02:42:22] which is ironic because it's like it is the least libertarian, uh, libertarian party I've ever
[02:42:27] seen and American libertarians are not real libertarians anyway but like these guys are
[02:42:30] exceptional. They're called in the Hamas talk as this isn't a relic. They think the XQC and
[02:42:35] D-bag using you as a cash cow was just preparing preparation for this. Yeah. No, I know
[02:42:40] It's awesome
[02:42:42] Like for the last seven years. I have had to deal with
[02:42:46] Endless cyber stocking endless smears endless landers. So I've built this
[02:42:52] You know, I've I've built up a fairly
[02:42:57] Um
[02:42:58] fairly resilient
[02:43:00] Thicker skin around this kind of shit
[02:43:02] of the distraction.
[02:43:04] Piker's answer this weekend was that it's not his job to make the Democratic Party look
[02:43:08] good, but he's already pointing at AOC for 2028.
[02:43:12] So that's not a liability on the fringe.
[02:43:14] That's the farm team telling the parent company they don't work for brand management.
[02:43:18] But he has millions of followers, Austin.
[02:43:22] And if he can get those millions of followers to vote for AOC in a primary, she ostensibly
[02:43:28] could be the Democrat nominee for president in 2028.
[02:43:32] This isn't a pipe dream anymore.
[02:43:33] This isn't a joke.
[02:43:35] This is real.
[02:43:36] Final thoughts to you.
[02:43:37] Sure.
[02:43:38] I was laughing because I was watching the Fox News interview of that Gustavo Gordillo,
[02:43:43] the NYC DSA co-chair there.
[02:43:45] Well, he's not on the New Hampshire ballot, but he is kind of the movement credibility
[02:43:49] problem in one person.
[02:43:51] He went on Fox to rip landlords and shrug at public groceries and, you know, putting
[02:43:56] private shops out of business.
[02:43:58] But then the records came out.
[02:43:59] electrician apprenticeship was terminated for not showing up to work.
[02:44:04] Yeah, this kind of stuff doesn't work, I think. Because it's like, okay,
[02:44:08] now you're just yelling at the New York City DSA co-chair for doing an electrician apprenticeship.
[02:44:17] He did do that. And they're like, oh, but he's actually richer than you suspected. It's like,
[02:44:23] Okay. Who cares?
[02:44:27] Like you're moving down the spectrum.
[02:44:29] Like, first you hit me on this bullshit, right?
[02:44:33] And the argument always is who cares for the average person.
[02:44:38] It's more so about the policies.
[02:44:40] It's more so about the advocacy.
[02:44:41] It's more so about, uh, whether we are principled in their defense or not.
[02:44:46] But then, uh, you know, now you're yelling about the New York City
[02:44:50] DSA co-chair.
[02:44:50] It's ridiculous.
[02:44:52] Reporting says he pushed for $95,000 chapter salary without disclosing that he wasn't showing
[02:44:57] up. He lives in a family townhouse there renovated for about $1.4 million. The DSA is just working
[02:45:03] class cosplay. That's not a Labor Day message and happy Labor Day to everybody there in
[02:45:08] New York City. Thanks for reporting on that guy.
[02:45:10] Okay, quickly. Could you be the nominee?
[02:45:13] It's time for Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is turning into the Joe Rogan of the left,
[02:45:19] Ladies and gentlemen, he also Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on his own podcast, but apparently draws a lot of anyone who thinks Palestinians are human beings. Yeah.
[02:45:27] Gavin cookie himself further.
[02:45:33] What is this? They crap on you some more on this panel. Yeah, we're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. Okay. We're, we're now moving on to greener pastures here. We are moving on to the Joseph Robin at Rogan of it all.
[02:45:46] Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Rogan has turned socialism. What is going on? Maybe he read
[02:45:51] all the articles about how the Democrats were looking for a Joe Rogan to the left and he
[02:45:56] decided I'm the Joe Rogan of the left. Okay. Here's the CNN panel discussing Joe Rogan
[02:46:08] sharing his observations that align with socialism. I'm of course joking. Joe Rogan does not
[02:46:15] read, unless it's a chat GBT output that Jamie found for him. So perhaps Joe Rogan is back
[02:46:25] to his Bernie Krat roots. Who knows? Let's take a look.
[02:46:28] David Podcasters appears to accidentally make the case for socialism.
[02:46:35] Just imagine how much less crime there would be if no one was ever starving, if no one was
[02:46:42] was ever hungry with no one was ever desperate if no one was ever worried
[02:46:45] about where their next meal was going to come from or where whether or not they're
[02:46:49] gonna have a roof over their head what if like there's no more poverty what if
[02:46:52] the concept of poverty is like completely out the window and there is no
[02:46:56] poverty in this country we could have already done that already we've got
[02:46:59] already done that yeah yeah sure like we don't need to get all those rich
[02:47:03] people that are in charge of industry and run corporations and in
[02:47:06] government to agree to make the world a better place for everybody.
[02:47:12] Joe Rogan isn't the only one who's socialism curious right now.
[02:47:16] Donald Trump has upended decades of Republican principles, whether it's government stakes
[02:47:20] in private businesses or price controls, leading a former Obama adviser to recently
[02:47:27] say this.
[02:47:29] It's main one down. He did the following. If you put price controls on product like
[02:47:34] farm,
[02:47:35] This is an old clip. What is CNN doing? It was from like a couple of weeks ago. And
[02:47:40] I think CNN is just like trying to farm. CNN is trying to farm, bro. You have to push
[02:47:46] back on that. Hold on. Um, Joseph Robinette Rogan, we covered this clip on the broadcast
[02:47:52] when he said this, right? We covered this when he said this on the, on the
[02:47:57] uh... broadcast a while ago
[02:48:00] uh...
[02:48:01] just robin and rogan is
[02:48:03] closer to the average americans uh... mentally
[02:48:06] and and uh... did the perspective of the here from him
[02:48:09] is whether we'd like to admit it or not
[02:48:11] far closer to the average americans perspective on politics in general
[02:48:16] you know it's not a bad thing it's a good thing that he's saying stuff
[02:48:18] like this okay
[02:48:20] i know we get very frustrated with people like joe
[02:48:23] and there's good reason to be very frustrated with people like joe rogan
[02:48:26] I am always very frustrated with people like Jordan.
[02:48:29] That's precisely the reason why he will never have me on his podcast because he is, uh,
[02:48:34] he keeps a close watch on, uh, people who, uh, you know,
[02:48:39] people who come after him and he will, you know,
[02:48:42] refuse to talk to guys like that and it's fine. Um,
[02:48:47] you know, it's time to use this to our advantage.
[02:48:50] If may a Mondani did the following,
[02:48:52] if he put price controls on product like pharmaceuticals,
[02:48:55] If he bailed out farms, if he took private stakes in public companies, if he said to energy companies, you're making too much money, if he proposed credit card caps, you would all go apoplectic, as would your viewers.
[02:49:07] That's what President Trump's doing. You could argue, you said he's going to griff back to the lab when the water gets too hot.
[02:49:12] I don't even know if he's, I don't even know if it's like a grift because a grift would imply that he has like a real compass and is ideologically grounded, right?
[02:49:24] Right? Like he, I think it's more so that he recognizes that the Trump stuff is, is not
[02:49:32] looking good. And it looks bad to be associated with Trump. He doesn't like what Trump has
[02:49:38] done so far. I'm willing to bet a big part of it is Israel, by the way, because at
[02:49:43] the same time, he's having all these like Palantir, you know, billionaire, pedophilic
[02:49:47] billionaire, Epstein class people on while simultaneously talking about the Epstein
[02:49:51] class and talking about Israel, like even in his conversation with J.D. Vance, he was like
[02:49:56] pretty critical of Israel, if you remember, because these guys, they, they lean into simple narratives
[02:50:00] and it's just like, doesn't make any fucking says that, that, you know, this supposed bold and brave
[02:50:06] independent guy like Donald Trump, his heterodox thinker like Donald Trump, who wanted to put
[02:50:10] America first is not putting America first, but Israel first, that's the way he operates.
[02:50:14] Right? No, you grift because you don't have a compass. No, he, the grift implies this is deliberate.
[02:50:24] I think it's more so that he genuinely doesn't comprehend. I know a lot of guys like this.
[02:50:29] I know a lot of guys like this, especially in like the podcasting circuit, guys who like
[02:50:34] excitedly voted for Donald Trump endorsed Donald Trump. And then they were like, like
[02:50:39] Like Bradley Martin is a guy like this. Okay.
[02:50:42] Bradley Martin is the perfect guy like this,
[02:50:45] far closer to the median voter than you and I,
[02:50:49] a guy who was just like, yeah,
[02:50:50] you said he's going to end the wars. I'm voting for him.
[02:50:52] And then very quickly afterwards, he was like, what the fuck?
[02:50:55] He's not ending the wars at all. Oh my God.
[02:50:57] He is literally behaving like a,
[02:50:59] like a lifeless husk that is trying to do whatever Israel wants to do.
[02:51:03] He's like, this is ridiculous. You know,
[02:51:05] and guys like that unfortunately also then turn around and,
[02:51:08] and, you know, develop some strange ideas, maybe sometimes some violent and dangerous ideas as well, but
[02:51:16] but yeah, Joe Rogan is not dissimilar Bradley Martin in that regard and most likely has seen
[02:51:22] what Trump has been doing with Israel especially and he's just like, this is
[02:51:26] totally ridiculous. He is an Epstein client or whatever, right?
[02:51:31] He is the most powerful socialist in the country.
[02:51:41] Like Bradley Martin and Joe Rogan, unfortunately, are far, far more likely to be, uh, to follow
[02:51:49] through on Nick Fuentes thought than Hasan Abi thought.
[02:51:54] Well, not Bradley.
[02:51:55] Bradley could lean in either direction.
[02:51:57] Joe Rogan most likely would, uh, you know, channel Nick Fuentes thought to a certain degree,
[02:52:05] but then also say, oh, it's a bridge too far to deny the Holocaust.
[02:52:08] You know what I mean?
[02:52:09] Like that's, that's how I'm in my mind.
[02:52:11] If I were to visualize where Joe Rogan is right now, he's like, well, you know, it's
[02:52:15] this Israel stuff is crazy and Jewish people are in like very powerful positions in American
[02:52:20] society and many of them are saying pro-Israel thing.
[02:52:23] So it's not that much of a stretch to Joe Rogan's wife is Jewish, bro.
[02:52:30] It doesn't matter.
[02:52:31] Joe Rogan is literally defending Nick Fuentes on his broadcast.
[02:52:35] That only proves exactly what I'm saying.
[02:52:42] I think you guys also forget, like I have a master's in Roganology, you know.
[02:52:46] I have a PhD in racism and I studied Roganology quite extensively.
[02:52:52] He was a fan of Joe Rogan, so I can totally see Joe Rogan being like, you know, this Nick Fuentes guy, he says some a lot of crazy shit, but he also says some really smart things about like Iran and Israel and stuff like that.
[02:53:05] So, I can totally, totally see, I can totally see Joe Rogan landing somewhere along those lines and along those boundaries where he like, will consider some of the things that Nick Fuentes says to be offensive, just not so offensive that he just like completely stops listening to him, right?
[02:53:35] for today.
[02:53:38] Yeah, he's not wrong. He's not wrong. That is totally accurate. And I'm shocked that you guys didn't play imagine in the background.
[02:53:46] We're talking about Jesus in the next segment, but what Joe Rogan was describing in heaven.
[02:53:56] This is not new for Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is was a Bernie bro at one point. He's always had he's not.
[02:54:02] Yeah, by the way, this should be at table stakes for all serious 2028 Democratic presidential candidates. I told you
[02:54:08] Embrace Hassanabi thought
[02:54:11] Embrace Hassanabi thought always right just too early
[02:54:14] Always right just too early speaking to people embracing Hassanabi thought Sarah long well
[02:54:19] I try to use my frustration with Democrats in every instance to be like and here's how we could change this
[02:54:27] And so for example, one of my great frustrations with Democrats has been that they keep saying
[02:54:32] democracy is on the line. Okay? They told us democracy was on the line in 2024.
[02:54:37] Then you have to act like democracy is on the line.
[02:54:40] This is verbatim, I'm sorry, verbatim Hassanabi thought.
[02:54:45] Sarah Longwell, verbatim embracing Hassanabi thought.
[02:54:50] Did she watch too many of my videos critically and then ultimately
[02:54:54] aligned with too many of the positions? I have said those words
[02:54:57] so many times.
[02:54:59] The reason that voters are so frustrated with it. She's going through the backlog. She's going through the catalogue of older videos
[02:55:07] Democratic Party is they're like you guys keep telling us everything is on the line
[02:55:11] Democracy is on the line America is on the line our futures on the line and then you call up, you know, Jared
[02:55:17] To have a chat like everything's normal. And that's why I do think voters are demanding wartime generals instead of peacetime diplomats
[02:55:24] They want people they want to elect people and I do think one of the reasons that there's been more
[02:55:30] Bill crystal already a
[02:55:33] Hassanabi loyalist one of the strongest Hassanabi soldiers out there, you know
[02:55:37] Outsider insurgency is because of the frustration that voters have with mainstream Democrats for saying
[02:55:43] Why are you treating this Republican Party like it's the party of Mitt Romney and you guys are gonna have a normal conversation
[02:55:48] You're not and they they sort of won. Oh my god. I can't believe it even down to the Mitt Romney reference
[02:55:53] This is like verbate. This is verbatim what I have been screaming about
[02:55:58] Since before the election certainly after the election haven't stopped screaming about this
[02:56:07] She has embraced
[02:56:08] Pikerist thought democrats to reflect back to them what democrats say in their words and then not in their actions
[02:56:15] Yeah, i'm i'm gonna issue a copyright strike
[02:56:18] Speaking of others who have embraced hasan abi thought tim miller also at the bull work the democratic base right now
[02:56:23] is not demanding that the party become nativist. The Democratic base is demanding a fairer healthcare
[02:56:31] system, less involvement in Middle East wars, less support for the baby Netanyahu Israeli
[02:56:39] government, and being less accommodating to corporate elites. Can the center-left mainstream
[02:56:47] democrats just give them that
[02:56:49] like are those not reasonable requests from the base
[02:56:53] like why you pick the fight with the with the left over those issues right now
[02:56:57] why not accommodate and then be responsive to big to democratic voters
[02:57:01] complaints on those issues
[02:57:03] and and and then take the fight to the republicans i you know i to me
[02:57:07] i feel like there's been some really bad strategy
[02:57:11] from the center left
[02:57:13] you know truck picking losing battles
[02:57:15] with the Democratic base on stuff that either the Democratic base has a really good point about
[02:57:21] or that or on things like aren't really that important in the grand scheme of things given
[02:57:26] the fight that we have. Yeah, are they are they are they inventing Hasan Abi thought from first
[02:57:32] principles or are they embracing it? Who knows? Really an ideologue. He has always had kind of
[02:57:38] tendencies in this direction. I think the the real thing that's interesting to me is this
[02:57:42] these are just not serious ideas in an important respect.
[02:57:46] If you could liquidate all of the wealth held
[02:57:48] by all of the billionaires and redistribute that money
[02:57:51] to every American that has less than $100,000 a year,
[02:57:55] they would get like $20,000 to $30,000 one time.
[02:57:58] And then what?
[02:57:59] What would you actually have done
[02:58:01] and achieved absolutely nothing?
[02:58:02] This is not how wealth is created.
[02:58:04] You don't make people wealthy or simply
[02:58:06] by redistributing money and taking things
[02:58:08] from one place to another.
[02:58:09] I think we've, before the Trump moment,
[02:58:12] we had this tension between the redistributionists
[02:58:15] and the revivalists.
[02:58:16] The people who insisted America could be great
[02:58:17] if we went backwards.
[02:58:18] And the people who insist America could be great
[02:58:20] if we just take all the money from them
[02:58:22] and give it to all of them.
[02:58:23] Neither of those policies makes a lot of sense.
[02:58:25] We need innovation, we need building,
[02:58:27] we need actual prosperity.
[02:58:29] And you have to create that.
[02:58:30] You can only create that you can't redistribute.
[02:58:32] You can do something in the middle.
[02:58:33] I mean, full disclosure, I'm not related to Joe Rogan.
[02:58:36] My name is Josh Rogan,
[02:58:37] I did do the Joe Rogan podcast, Rogan versus Rogan, episode 164, I know, I'm glad you told me.
[02:58:46] I'm also not related to Sephora, that's a separate story.
[02:58:49] A whole other story.
[02:58:50] But I've spent enough time with Joe Rogan to know that, I agree with you, this is what he's been saying along.
[02:58:54] It's not socialism, it's more populism.
[02:58:57] Socialism I think of like, oh, the Chinese state economy where the government controls everything and does everything.
[02:59:02] That's national socialism, to be honest.
[02:59:05] Well, what he's talking about is populism, which is neither left nor right, and not new
[02:59:09] for him.
[02:59:10] And, you know, yes, you could say that the full extreme where we redistribute everything
[02:59:13] is bad, sure, but that's essentially a straw man, because we already have a system that
[02:59:18] mixes capitalism and socialism, not a straw, but reductio ad absurdum, but, sure.
[02:59:22] Well, tomato-tomato.
[02:59:24] But the point is that we already redistribute wealth.
[02:59:28] You've responded to that, please?
[02:59:30] Yeah, yeah, the Chinese version is too extreme.
[02:59:34] I like that they're like, um, they're already, they're already adopting the Euro communist
[02:59:40] position, the Euro socialist position. And then immediately they have to be like, but
[02:59:45] the Chinese one is a bridge too far. Okay. The Chinese was a person too far. Okay. Let's,
[02:59:52] let's stop short of that please. Okay. Cool. We'll take it for now. You know what I mean?
[02:59:58] It is a straw man. Like
[02:59:59] Everyone, it's a CNN panel on socialism. Of course, everyone is wrong. They are almost as wrong as Joe
[03:00:10] Rogan is. Who cares if they're on board with these policies? Then, you know, we take those. We take
[03:00:15] those victories, okay? Also, it's ironic because they're exceptionally wrong when it comes to China
[03:00:24] talking about redistributive policies. Chinese welfare is virtually non-existent in comparison
[03:00:29] into our welfare system. Like they are the one country where they have a more aesthetic
[03:00:35] welfare structure than we do. And their policies do not revolve around redistributive policies,
[03:00:41] but more so around a very competitive meritocratic process between provinces where they experiment
[03:00:48] with different ways of boosting industry. But ultimately, there are key sectors and
[03:00:56] targets that the government sets forth ahead of time and then allows different provinces
[03:01:01] and different localities to compete with one another to hit those targets.
[03:01:05] One example I was thinking of is the chip manufacturing company, right, the CXMT, what
[03:01:11] is it called? CXMT, junction memory technologies. So CXMT, junction memory technologies is
[03:01:22] Now, blowing up. Okay. But for years and years, this, this company was operated by this, this one guy who always wanted to, who always wanted to be, who always wanted to bring domestically chip manufacturing to China.
[03:01:41] Okay.
[03:01:42] That's not Chinese. Yes, it is. They purchased... I'm talking about CXMT. I'm not talking about TSMC.
[03:01:54] Okay, CXMT is a great story about how Chinese manufacturing works. Okay, so Hefe is where
[03:02:13] it was headquartered, right? And what ended up happening is the regional party director,
[03:02:27] the regional party director decided to invest while all of these other, while all these
[03:02:35] other regions were reinvesting their gains back into real estate all the way back in
[03:02:43] the early 2010s, these guys took a big bet on CXMT. And for years and years, and for years
[03:02:52] and years, this bet did not pan out. But state planning is the reason why now CXMT is a massive
[03:03:02] company. Ironically enough, the guy who also made the
[03:03:10] bet on CXMT was then later charged with corruption, but at least he got this one correct for real
[03:03:20] estate speculation and corruption. China's approach to state planning is pretty unique
[03:03:23] compared to other socialist experiments and also for Western countries in that it's more
[03:03:28] capitalist. In air quotes, they provide broad incentives that apply to any company in
[03:03:31] a sector. And then there's brutal competition between the companies that spring up to
[03:03:34] take that incentive. This is compared to US subsidies where the state may provide
[03:03:37] benefits to a specific company for a specific purpose? Yes, it is more central planning.
[03:03:44] It's more centrally planned than the American system, even though the American system also
[03:03:47] has central planning. But they're also very aggressive in where those subsidies go. And
[03:03:54] they expect performance as a direct consequence of said subsidies. In America, the expectation
[03:04:04] is, yeah, keep prices as balanced as possible. But if you just shirk off the top, if you
[03:04:08] just, you know, give all of the subsidies back to your state or to your shareholders,
[03:04:14] and that's fine.
[03:04:17] The Chinese system is actually very unique. It's not as like, it's not the old Soviet
[03:04:23] model. It's not like Cuba. It's not like the old Soviet model. There aren't like,
[03:04:29] there aren't direct targets at the state decides ahead of time and then say, like,
[03:04:33] have to follow through on it. It is very, the Chinese system is unbelievably competitive.
[03:04:50] The old Soviet model was also unique in its time, true, but a lot of people mistake the
[03:04:55] Chinese model with the Soviet model. They think the modern Chinese model is identical to the
[03:05:00] the Soviet model, where the state comes in and says,
[03:05:03] we're gonna have this many units of steel production,
[03:05:05] we're gonna have this many units of cotton production,
[03:05:07] and that's it, okay?
[03:05:09] And you have to hit those targets no matter what.
[03:05:11] This is where we're going to,
[03:05:13] this is where we're gonna exhaust state resources on,
[03:05:16] you know, grain or whatever.
[03:05:17] Now, the Soviet model, ironically,
[03:05:19] was unbelievably beneficial at first,
[03:05:22] even though it was gruesome, it was brutal.
[03:05:24] There was a tremendous amount of human sacrifice
[03:05:27] in order to industrialize in an incredibly short period of time, but it was also a necessary
[03:05:33] industrialization to defeat the Nazis. The Soviets put so much effort into industrializing
[03:05:43] as fast as possible in an effort to get ready for the inevitable battle that took place,
[03:05:48] you know, World War II, right? Clippers just perked up. I mean, it's true. I don't, historians
[03:06:03] will not disagree with this assessment. What do you think are the weaknesses of any of
[03:06:10] the Chinese system? I think that there isn't enough focus on welfare in general and they
[03:06:17] They focus too much on development and overall improvement of people's material conditions
[03:06:22] that way without addressing some of the unique problems.
[03:06:27] And one of those issues that they're currently facing is the unemployment crisis or the underemployment
[03:06:34] crisis for youth that are college educated.
[03:06:37] What is this?
[03:06:38] What's your favorite flag, Anasan?
[03:06:40] How about them friends of yours?
[03:06:41] How are they doing?
[03:06:42] Lola, can't wait for your deportation manual downfall and public opinion has
[03:06:44] been pretty what?
[03:06:45] fuck we missed it has been pretty epic crazy you've done this to yourself live
[03:06:52] for something chatter I know you won't take my word because you've already
[03:06:58] decided I am your enemy but this is no way to live
[03:07:05] is not constantly fantasizing about what next what bad thing might happen to me next is
[03:07:17] no way to live.
[03:07:21] You should want to live for yourself, not for others and certainly not for a fucking
[03:07:24] Okay?
[03:07:25] Anyway, as we were talking about with the Chinese model, some of those issues revolve around
[03:07:39] like what to do with this hyper-educated 12 million people graduated from college last
[03:07:47] year and trying to 12 million, 12 million college graduates is an insane number.
[03:07:52] about that. Okay, that's pretty much everybody living in New York.
[03:08:18] And those guys don't have jobs.
[03:08:21] They don't know what to fucking do.
[03:08:23] Youth unemployment is at like 19% or something like that.
[03:08:26] It's crazy.
[03:08:27] It's crazy high.
[03:08:29] That's a huge issue.
[03:08:31] You gotta solve that, right?
[03:08:33] You gotta solve that problem.
[03:08:37] And yeah, Brad Setser also said it, CFR senior fellow Brad Setser.
[03:08:44] Brad Setser broke down a genuinely complicated multi-layered topic really well.
[03:08:47] One thing worth flagging for anyone who assumed otherwise, China doesn't really have much of
[03:08:51] a social welfare system.
[03:08:52] Ironic, given the whole common and social is branding a great listen.
[03:08:56] There's a much better safety net, much better public health, public food supplies, community
[03:08:59] tables, and such a cheap housing subsidized housing in China, the USA, the standard
[03:09:03] basic pension benefit in China is very, very low.
[03:09:05] Absolutely.
[03:09:06] And compared to the US social security unemployment insurers is regional, not national.
[03:09:09] And all this is financed very aggressively with hefty tax on consumption and low wage
[03:09:13] work.
[03:09:14] Cheers.
[03:09:15] Brad Sethzer is not wrong.
[03:09:17] China is one of the most competitive societies on earth that it is both beneficial for growth and can be detrimental to the individual.
[03:09:21] It means how low labor protection, welfare, and a massive population of people, mostly migrant workers, who live in constant precarity between jobs and the gig economy.
[03:09:29] Not that we don't have the same problem here, it's just the different scale. Yeah.
[03:09:36] What is this also adding to the Sampiker thought? Does the establishment think this is what voters want?
[03:09:41] If this is surprising to you, then all you were part of the reason we Democrats lost the White House's house, the Senate and the Supreme Court.
[03:09:48] Oh, yeah, open a higher Senator Church who was daughter to work for the Artificial Intelligence Corporation. Of course, of course they did.
[03:09:54] A clip of you is blowing up on...
[03:09:59] Sean is probably my favorite...
[03:10:01] What are they saying?
[03:10:06] Politician in the West.
[03:10:09] the west. I wish I could convince the French to vote for him in the second round.
[03:10:13] What is, what are they saying? Wait, how do I translate this shit?
[03:10:21] No. JLM, during his interview with the Sun, you're the first American I met who said sensible
[03:10:28] things. In my opinion, JLM isn't angry enough after the dirty tricks of successive governments.
[03:10:35] Hello, Sampyger, but I never would have imagined hearing him mention the best party France
[03:10:38] could have in his leader Mr. Mellachan vote LFI if you love France.
[03:10:41] I have dual citizenship so in the U.S. I'm a DSA supporter, I'm a fan of France, I'm
[03:10:45] a LFI supporter.
[03:10:47] Long live internationalism.
[03:10:48] Clearly, I think that's Mellachan's strong point, his ability to restore sovereignty
[03:10:54] to our country.
[03:10:58] Nice.
[03:11:00] Nice.
[03:11:01] Thanks, Guaparte, for shedding some light on the Comrade Assange comments.
[03:11:09] I'm driving crazy, so I did some digging in LOLRFOLD.
[03:11:12] Did you know a significant portion of Assange's scathing comments come from accounts that commented on Gloo's video showing the Villapin calling him the goat?
[03:11:19] So we have Comrades praising Villapin and condemning Assange. Hello to the right wing of the Socialist Party. Frustrated about not having a primary question mark.
[03:11:26] Jadol!
[03:11:28] It's made by a very popular French pro-LFI
[03:11:33] contributor making political clips. Nice.
[03:11:37] I think he would be the only French leader that has any viability that's
[03:11:42] even remotely serious that would reinstate French sovereignty. All of
[03:11:47] the other French leadership is their their puppets to America. There's no
[03:11:51] world if he were to get power that he wouldn't follow through on his
[03:11:54] I know for a fact that they seem as too old, too crazy, too angry, they think he's pro-russia.
[03:12:00] It's like a lot of the shit that people say about me, they say about him,
[03:12:03] but it's clear that the only opportunity that Ménangian has is if he can consolidate power on the left flank.
[03:12:08] The entirety of the left flank with the exception LFI basically exists to rat fuck, dies like Ménangian.
[03:12:15] The French like a more softer touch, I guess, I don't fucking understand it.
[03:12:18] The normie French attitude demonstrated by a lot of young progressives is,
[03:12:22] Menachon is far too angry, far too cranky, far too left, and of course the the nationalists are are out of the question
[03:12:29] They're insane, they're racist, they're racist, but they also don't like Macron
[03:12:34] But they say the left is too far left, the right is too far right, and everything in the center is shit
[03:12:39] That's what I've heard from French normies. I wish the French were a little bit more organized
[03:12:44] and a little bit more radical
[03:12:46] It's great.
[03:12:55] International Solidarity to the Comrades.
[03:12:56] It also popped off on InstaReal's 2.17k likes.
[03:13:02] Glupa Tatte.
[03:13:03] They say it's pro-Russia and at the same time they also blame me for not asking Zelensky
[03:13:12] to organize new elections.
[03:13:18] The comments are they're a surprising bunch of record-spending ultra.
[03:13:31] Wait.
[03:13:33] Millenshaun is the most like Millenshaun is the closest to a radical
[03:13:37] in the Western world.
[03:13:39] There are people who say.
[03:13:42] There are people who say Menecheon is fake. That's crazy.
[03:13:49] I would assume that that that he could satiate the appetite for the quote unquote
[03:13:55] altars or whatever if they don't like Menecheon, then they they're just they got to be records, man.
[03:14:00] That's crazy.
[03:14:05] It's pronounced blue potato.
[03:14:12] Did you hear XQ's dad take on Carney?
[03:14:16] Yeah, I watched it.
[03:14:17] I watched our current prime minister on the video.
[03:14:19] Well, Carney is this the game English spoken French for some reason.
[03:14:23] Yeah, right.
[03:14:24] And French is stable.
[03:14:26] I disagree.
[03:14:27] What?
[03:14:27] He's not French.
[03:14:29] I think he's doing a real good job.
[03:14:30] Well, yeah, but it's like, of course, XQ dad loves Carney.
[03:14:34] That's right.
[03:14:42] Of course he does, bro. He's he's lived up
[03:14:46] And makes sense. I mean, this is exactly what I was talking about when I say like
[03:14:51] Like X you sees that is exactly that the voter profile that will vote for Carney and will will be the base of support for
[03:14:59] Carney beyond like in the francophone regions, right?
[03:15:05] The real lion of level is not X you see but X you see his father
[03:15:12] I mean, look, from our perspective, of course, we like Avi Lewis, right, NDP, but I'm talking
[03:15:32] about like liberal Canadians, especially Francophone liberal Canadians that that offer
[03:15:37] a lot of that basically are a resilient force that allows the Democrats, the Liberals, to win.
[03:15:53] Because the alternative is the separatist, well not really the separatist, but kind of separatist party.
[03:16:02] And also, Carney is very, oh no, I don't want to, thank you.
[03:16:07] It's not like Justin.
[03:16:10] Yeah, but why is he choosing to start in French?
[03:16:13] If he's better than it.
[03:16:14] If he gives me English.
[03:16:15] You stupid fuck rat.
[03:16:16] You know why he does that?
[03:16:17] Because he's a fucking dumbass.
[03:16:19] No.
[03:16:20] I think I know it.
[03:16:22] I love the Prime Minister.
[03:16:24] The Prime Minister, he's the goat.
[03:16:26] Most love him.
[03:16:27] This guy is the goat.
[03:16:28] Is he?
[03:16:29] This guy is the leader of the free world.
[03:16:32] This guy is smart.
[03:16:34] The free world, really?
[03:16:35] I am very Felix, leadership is in power. Leadership is
[03:16:39] influence.
[03:16:41] Show you this guy surprising. I'm quite sure you got the
[03:16:44] Chelsea, you got the Chelsea. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Holy. All
[03:16:48] right. I am I am I am not, you know, I am. Whoa, I was quite
[03:16:54] impressed.
[03:16:55] But what does behavior is attitude? And it's, you know
[03:17:00] what? What not? Carney did? No, I'm knowing it. Carney made all the French Canadians want
[03:17:07] to be Canadian. And that was a big move. A lot of French Canadians say, you know what?
[03:17:11] I'm Canadian too. Because there was a time that Quebec wanted to separate from the rest
[03:17:17] of the world. Yeah, which one? 1980, 1995. Well, let me try it. We got the 49% whatever.
[03:17:24] 49.9. It was very close. What did you vote? Say it. I'm not gonna say that. Come
[03:17:29] I want to know you want to be alone or was it just a stand?
[03:17:34] I'm not gonna judge you know make it to you. I want to know though
[03:17:38] You both think I say yeah, I think the camera. Okay. I'm gonna vote same. Okay, because but but in all honesty, okay, I
[03:17:47] Worked for an American company in Canada. Yeah, okay with the laboratory a big lab
[03:17:53] Okay, and I remember coming into the office
[03:17:55] office because I was a representative and they promoted me and I was amazed that everything
[03:18:01] was being done in English.
[03:18:02] Yeah.
[03:18:03] Why is it being done in French?
[03:18:04] And they would promote anglophones to jobs where they had to view attention.
[03:18:08] And I said, why are you doing that?
[03:18:09] At least take someone who's bilingual.
[03:18:12] And for what it's worth, note the differences between America, United States and Canada
[03:18:18] when it comes to politics.
[03:18:20] We don't eat our politicians.
[03:18:23] We don't, we don't, we don't base them.
[03:18:26] We don't go after their personal lives.
[03:18:29] Our prime minister, our premier of Quebec, check this out.
[03:18:32] Ready?
[03:18:33] Drunk, ran over and killed them.
[03:18:35] Really?
[03:18:36] Yeah.
[03:18:37] René de Vech.
[03:18:38] Okay, 1979 I think.
[03:18:41] Okay?
[03:18:42] 1981, sorry.
[03:18:43] Okay?
[03:18:44] Ready?
[03:18:45] Right.
[03:18:46] Never made a case of it.
[03:18:47] Ready?
[03:18:48] We don't attack the person.
[03:18:51] Why not?
[03:18:52] Because it's not right.
[03:18:53] attack the policies of the person.
[03:19:02] I don't know if you landed the plane there, but
[03:19:23] That's a very interesting reason to like Canadian politics.
[03:19:39] Have Social Security.
[03:19:40] We have poverty alleviation.
[03:19:41] It's just not working that well.
[03:19:43] And you don't have to have full socialism to feed starving children, although right
[03:19:47] now we're cutting back on all of those programs internationally.
[03:19:50] destroyed our humanitarian aid system, and domestically we've undermined our social safety
[03:19:55] net by defunding it and destroying it.
[03:19:57] So that is what he's reacting to.
[03:20:00] There are a lot of people suffering in our system that don't need to be suffering, and
[03:20:04] you don't have to destroy innovation to do it.
[03:20:06] What about what Robert Wolff was saying there about the world that we live in that Trump
[03:20:10] is creating, where he is the one guy who decides when there is going to be redistribution,
[03:20:18] he's going to take tax dollars from Americans in the form of tariffs and redistribute them
[03:20:24] to corporations or whoever he wants to redistribute them to.
[03:20:28] I guess part of what we're living with in the country seems to be that Americans are
[03:20:34] experiencing what the Wall Street Journal calls state capitalism, where the president
[03:20:40] is just deciding how to dole things out, which looks a little bit like socialism to
[03:20:45] them and then they're also hearing from those same people socialism is bad when
[03:20:49] it's designed to help you yeah I it's interesting this is a really people are
[03:20:54] having this conversation I'm glad that we also are having it in mainstream if
[03:20:58] you will there was a time when you thought and and I'm not saying I'm not
[03:21:02] saying take DSA as it is but there was a time again you thought oh my god
[03:21:05] that's this isn't saying he believed what they believe there was also a time
[03:21:09] when president what president Trump is doing right now we just thought never
[03:21:12] Can you believe that he's trying to really, you know, strip away civil rights for black
[03:21:17] and brown people?
[03:21:18] He's saying it's okay to behave the way that he's behaving.
[03:21:20] There was a time in which I thought, at least in my lifetime, this is insane.
[03:21:23] I can't believe people are going along with it.
[03:21:25] And I am seeing something in real time where we are sweeping to the other side.
[03:21:30] And what progressives are doing, what socialists are doing is that they're like, you know
[03:21:33] what, maybe we can tone down some of our rhetoric.
[03:21:36] There are some places where we can meet in the middle.
[03:21:38] There are things that we can say that don't sound so crazy.
[03:21:40] Let me play just one more clip from Joe Rogan, just to the point of his sort of populist
[03:21:47] leanings.
[03:21:48] Here is what he said about the stock market.
[03:21:51] I often think what would society look like if there wasn't a stock market?
[03:21:56] You don't have stock in publicly traded companies where there's this obligation to your shareholders
[03:22:03] to make more money, which makes you more ruthless, cut more corners, pay people less.
[03:22:09] you can to save as much money possible because you have an obligation to your shareholders.
[03:22:14] Oh my god. Again, in this moment, what he's talking about, I think, what he's speaking to
[03:22:22] is that the fact that when America... Yeah, when I say that, everybody yells at me.
[03:22:32] What the hell?
[03:22:39] When Joe Rogan says it, they do a whole panel about how brilliant this guy is now.
[03:22:52] That's crazy.
[03:22:57] Joe Rogan coming from my spot is the Joe Rogan to the left.
[03:22:59] I hate it.
[03:23:00] I can say things cost too much.
[03:23:08] The White House says, well the stock market's doing great.
[03:23:11] People are like, what does that mean to me?
[03:23:15] I have long said that I think the most pressing problem in American politics is the gap between
[03:23:20] the haves and have-nots is getting too big and people...
[03:23:28] You are the deputy communications person for the Trump campaign.
[03:23:37] You are not saying that.
[03:23:45] And neither is Trump.
[03:23:46] Like what are we talking about?
[03:23:53] Just like if I came out and was like you know the only important thing in America is making
[03:23:56] sure that small businesses thrive or something tomorrow.
[03:24:09] As you guys know, I love talking about how important it is to make sure small businesses
[03:24:16] are thriving in this country.
[03:24:19] Actually, no, even that's not far-fetched enough.
[03:24:26] If I came out tomorrow and said big business owners are the only people who know what to
[03:24:31] do with our productive forces, and therefore, as I like to always say, we have to abolish
[03:24:37] any redistributive policies to make sure that the super wealthy know what to do with the
[03:24:41] money.
[03:24:42] People perceive that.
[03:24:43] And the party that closes that gap will win elections for the next 25 years.
[03:24:49] And if we don't, this country probably will get revolution as what history would say.
[03:24:55] with young people. I mean, it's an interesting point about the stock market, you know, the
[03:24:59] top 10% in our country own 80% of the stock market. The bottom half of Americans don't
[03:25:05] own anything. They have debt, car debt, medical debt.
[03:25:08] If it were up to me, I would make sure that every Democrat was very critical of Israel
[03:25:27] and wanted to hold Israel accountable, not just Trump accountable, but Israel accountable
[03:25:32] and stopped spending so much money on endless militarism overseas, endless militarism in the
[03:25:39] Middle East.
[03:25:40] That would be my dream, but right now, I'm a very pragmatic person, we're not living
[03:25:45] in that reality.
[03:25:46] If it were up to me, I would make sure that every Democrat was very critical of Israel
[03:25:52] and wanted to hold Israel accountable, not just.
[03:25:57] Student loan debt, our main childbearing age population carries way more debt than our
[03:26:05] senior age population.
[03:26:08] And I think the solution is in socialism, because socialism to your point just strips
[03:26:14] wealth, it doesn't create wealth.
[03:26:15] The solution is get more people participating in the stock market.
[03:26:19] And you know, when you talk about midterms and like what is Trump going to go message,
[03:26:22] I would be screaming Trump accounts from the roof top.
[03:26:28] This is a rule of victory.
[03:26:30] They're so fucked.
[03:26:34] Oh, they got nothing.
[03:26:40] Oh, they got nothing.
[03:26:40] Yeah, we got to get everybody.
[03:26:43] We got to get everybody on the stock market.
[03:26:45] Yeah, that's a winning message.
[03:26:52] Yeah, I mean, most people have a 401k or an IRA or some form of opportunity for capital
[03:27:05] accumulation and don't matter, right?
[03:27:14] It's not working for them.
[03:27:24] Yeah, meanwhile in Germany, the 4th Reich, well...
[03:27:29] Wait, what is this?
[03:27:33] Texas?
[03:27:34] NBC News in Texas.
[03:27:35] Some Jewish Democratic voters are unhappy with James Talarygo's positions on Israel as
[03:27:39] he faces off against Republican State Attorney Ken Paxson in the critical Senate race.
[03:27:43] Oh, really?
[03:27:45] Well, Talarico recognizes Israel as a Jewish state.
[03:27:47] He has called for a ban on the U.S. sending offensive weapons to the country and labeled Israel's actions in Gaza war crimes.
[03:27:53] He won't even fucking say it's a genocide and some Jewish Democrats are critical of Talarico's take too.
[03:28:00] Wow.
[03:28:02] Also, it turns out for some Democrats, again, this is not even like a significant percentage
[03:28:16] of Jewish Democrats, ironically enough, it's just seemingly the only Jewish Democrats that
[03:28:23] mainstream media reaches out to.
[03:28:32] Once again.
[03:28:50] As he says at some point you have to understand that American democracy is a negligible thing for many Israel supporters
[03:28:55] Which shouldn't come as a surprise given that a fundamental part of supporting Israel is opposing democracy
[03:29:00] Yeah
[03:29:03] Yeah shocked
[03:29:06] Jewish voters a long back Democrats key midterm racer testing and support this article provides zero evidence
[03:29:11] Jewish voters in Texas are less likely to vote Democrat in November zero none is just Zionist advocacy groups making threats and random anecdotes from
[03:29:18] self-selecting activist. Yeah, is that surprising? This is exactly what I was
[03:29:26] talking about in that shit that they clipped out of context, like where I was
[03:29:30] saying like, this is not how American Jews think, this is not how American Jews
[03:29:35] are voting. This is Jewish organizations masquerading as Jewish advocacy
[03:29:40] organizations to present a falsehood to make it seem like American Jews are
[03:29:44] actually terrified of these like moderates now even, not just Abdul, who is in many respects
[03:29:51] moderate to and certainly closer to the overwhelming majority position on Israel than even James
[03:29:59] is.
[03:30:15] You know, which religious group has a higher percentage of support for Israel, especially
[03:30:26] in the state of Texas, not Jews. It's fucking Christian Zionists. It's evangelicals. And
[03:30:37] they're all voting for Kempaxon anyway.
[03:30:41] They're the only people that are voting for Kim Paxson.
[03:30:55] They just happen to have vast numbers in the state of Texas, unfortunately.
[03:31:01] But yeah, this article is ridiculous, but it's also exactly what I've been fucking
[03:31:08] complaining about. Okay. Anti-Semitic too. Yeah, but that's primarily because of Kenny
[03:31:36] Kenny P stands on Asia Consent, or the State of Israel is both.
[03:31:41] Evangelicals love Kenny P stands on Asia Consent.
[03:31:44] Also, Kenny P. grows, don't know why I had a visceral reaction to that.
[03:32:06] I'm now of the belief that Kroger promised Schumer that she would be one of the rotating
[03:32:13] villains if she was elected in Telerico did not make the same promise, which is why the
[03:32:16] Dems have essentially left him out the dry.
[03:32:19] He's not progressive enough to justify the usual tactic of trying to wrap up the race
[03:32:23] like this.
[03:32:24] I don't don't even understand why they're hitting this.
[03:32:27] Also you want to know something that's extra insane.
[03:32:32] Asaf is Jewish. Like out of these three, John Asaf is the most pro-Israel. And even then,
[03:32:42] they're like, oh, Jewish voters are worried about voting for John Asaf, really? That's not true.
[03:32:50] I'm willing to bet John Asaf is going to put fucking insane numbers up with Jewish voters
[03:32:55] in the state of Georgia. Okay? And the same with Talarico. And Abdul is going to win the
[03:33:08] Jewish vote as well. Maybe not by the same numbers that Kamala Harris did, but he is going
[03:33:12] to win the Jewish voters in the state of Michigan. I guarantee it. It's fucking ridiculous,
[03:33:21] Dude, these guys are completely out of control with the way that they're writing these articles. I mean, it's fucking nuts.
[03:33:30] It's totally nuts.
[03:33:32] At some point, we have to be reasonable. We have to realize that this is bullshit. This is not reality. This is not real journalism.
[03:33:41] This does not represent the broad spectrum of dissent amongst American Jews at all.
[03:33:59] This is for all intents and purposes to push as hard as one can to get Talariko to be openly pro-Israel,
[03:34:09] Even if it means losing the fucking election
[03:34:13] If anything, Talarico should be more aggressive against Israel
[03:34:17] Because even in the state of Texas with the exception of the ultra
[03:34:21] Zionists that are of evangelical background who are lifelong Ken Paxton voters before they came back and was even fucking born basically
[03:34:29] Everybody else hates Israel
[03:34:39] I feel like I'm losing my mind.
[03:35:02] Here's what I'd like to understand about the Hassanpika news cycle with all these dem
[03:35:04] consuls and politicians going on condemning you.
[03:35:07] Republican candidates who currently have ties to Nazis. One of those Nazis directly affiliated
[03:35:11] with the Mike Collins campaign, but who did Ossoff condemn first, the socialist rumor of the
[03:35:15] Nazis just malpractice all around? Yeah. But you know, aren't you from Georgia originally?
[03:35:23] I know you live in Massachusetts now. But I remember at the time when you said your own
[03:35:30] synagogue was one of the Jewish organizations that fucking criticized John Ossoff for making
[03:35:36] the right decision and and and being smart enough to want to deny weapons transfers to
[03:35:43] Israel like it was the the most it was the tiniest little critique
[03:35:58] and even then
[03:35:59] even then you had these uh you had these orcs fucking coming out and taking ads in the newspaper
[03:36:07] being like john ossoff you're not a real drew how dare you how dare you fucking criticize
[03:36:11] Israel like this all this shit.
[03:36:18] Ridiculous.
[03:36:24] Well, I want to point out something that Jojo from Jurisjust, you notice she got on
[03:36:32] her eye horse about the 18 fallen service members, but then the moment we bring up
[03:36:36] of son piker who said america deserve 9 11 who shared on has one of the hood and she suddenly let go take another drink
[03:36:43] He didn't send them to their deaths. You need to either pick that you want to be on the side of america or on the side of an
[03:36:48] 18-year-old
[03:36:50] States of america
[03:36:52] to sign the letters that send them to their deaths
[03:36:54] You are an streamer dude
[03:36:56] You are a fucking streamer
[03:36:58] Donald Trump is the commander in chief of the united states of america
[03:37:02] Okay, we're not talking about a son, Piker.
[03:37:05] I know you want to talk about a son, Piker,
[03:37:07] but he's not in charge.
[03:37:08] Guess what?
[03:37:09] He didn't send them to their deaths.
[03:37:10] Donald Trump did.
[03:37:11] And he knows them more than comparing them to Vietnam.
[03:37:14] Well, you agree with the son, Piker,
[03:37:16] and Americans deserve 9-11?
[03:37:16] And I don't know what kind of a patriot you think you are,
[03:37:19] that you can reduce their deaths
[03:37:21] and their sacrifices to a parking point
[03:37:23] about his dream.
[03:37:24] Do you agree Americans deserve 9-11?
[03:37:25] Do you think Americans deserve 9-11?
[03:37:27] Yes or no?
[03:37:28] Do I?
[03:37:29] Are you kidding?
[03:37:30] I'm sorry, Pierce.
[03:37:31] I'm going to do an interview now, okay.
[03:37:45] We're doing a Zoom interview with Josh Rushing of Al Jazeera.
[03:37:49] He has a documentary out on Operation Southern Spear.
[03:38:01] I'm very excited and honored to have him on the broadcast Josh rushing ladies and gentlemen
[03:38:08] Um, I am going to very quickly put you in the interview up. There it is. Okay
[03:38:16] Don gosh, you're out you're live they can kind of see your face right now
[03:38:20] But thank you so much for coming on and thank you for your
[03:38:23] Uh, wonderful journalism. Um, we're gonna be talking about america's uh illegal actions
[03:38:29] in Latin America, part of the Don Road Doctrine.
[03:38:34] But honor to have you here.
[03:38:36] Honor to have you on the broadcast.
[03:38:38] Oh, wait, did I lose you?
[03:38:40] Josh, can you hear me?
[03:38:45] Your image shows up on this side.
[03:38:46] Oh, there you're moving.
[03:38:47] Am I moving now?
[03:38:48] Okay, perfect.
[03:38:49] I lost you there for a second, but you are now back.
[03:38:54] Great.
[03:38:55] I'm actually in the countryside
[03:38:55] at a friend of mine's house.
[03:38:57] So you know Andy Salal from Busboys and Poets?
[03:39:00] You know.
[03:39:01] He's in Cuba in April with you guys.
[03:39:03] I'm out here for Labor Day, so the signal's a little bit in the country.
[03:39:09] Don't pursuit, my friend.
[03:39:10] Oh, thank you.
[03:39:11] Thank you so much.
[03:39:12] I'm trying to, people keep yelling at me, so I, and they keep clipping my stream,
[03:39:18] so I need to look a little bit more presentable when that happens, you know?
[03:39:22] I get it.
[03:39:23] No, you look great.
[03:39:24] You look great.
[03:39:25] Thanks for having me on though.
[03:39:26] appreciate it. You know, the last time we talked, you were on my fault lines episode for mom Donnie.
[03:39:32] Yeah. Yeah.
[03:39:35] I remember. And you have, you had a, you had a brilliant speech as well that that people really
[03:39:44] appreciated. Oh yeah. Thanks, man. When you, when you, yeah, when you received an award, it's,
[03:39:50] I mean, look, for those of you who don't know, Josh has done a lot of tremendous work, tremendous
[03:39:56] investigative reporting. And this is obviously also in line with your past work as well.
[03:40:07] This is unfortunately something that's not getting a lot of coverage in American news.
[03:40:10] So I was very excited to have you on and talk about it. The documentary is actually,
[03:40:15] The documenter, I believe, is out already.
[03:40:17] Operations on the Spear for Fault Lines, right?
[03:40:21] Yep, it's called Killing at Sea, and it's on YouTube.
[03:40:24] It dropped on September 2nd, which
[03:40:26] was the one-year anniversary of the first boat strike.
[03:40:30] Yeah, and it came out five days ago.
[03:40:32] If you guys want to watch it, you can watch it on YouTube.
[03:40:37] But I wanted to get started.
[03:40:40] What made you interested in the military's Caribbean operations?
[03:40:49] Hello. Well, it's an extraordinary thing that the U.S. government is killing people, calling them
[03:41:01] enemy combatants and something that they don't even know that they're in a war, much less
[03:41:06] if they're enemy combatants. And I watched the U.S. coverage of it, the Western
[03:41:10] Media's coverage of it, and there was a lot of it in the beginning, and a lot of
[03:41:15] the analysis said this is about taking out Maduro, and then once they took out
[03:41:18] Maduro, the coverage really went down about it. People stopped paying attention,
[03:41:22] but the strikes actually went up. So Operation Southern Spear, which
[03:41:27] technically ended in the first week of August, I think is 61-62 boat strikes
[03:41:32] total, 221 people killed. These are people who are being killed by the U.S. government
[03:41:38] without any trial or jury. The Rubio, Secretary Rubio says that they're coming to our shores,
[03:41:47] but we're blowing up boats that are 1,500 miles away. They're designed to go 50 to
[03:41:53] 100 miles. They're not seaworthy. They couldn't make it all the way to our shores.
[03:41:58] So that's not really what it's about.
[03:42:00] And when you really try to wrap your head around it,
[03:42:02] you can look at a month like December,
[03:42:04] where there are multiple strikes.
[03:42:08] We killed multiple people in December.
[03:42:10] The same month that President Trump is a full pardon
[03:42:14] to the former president of Honduras, Orlando Hernandez,
[03:42:19] and this guy's convicted by a U.S. jury
[03:42:21] of trafficking 400 to 500 tons of cocaine into the U.S.
[03:42:24] and saying, we're gonna shove these drugs
[03:42:26] right up the noses of the gringos.
[03:42:28] He gets a full pardon, but a bunch of random guys on small boats 1,500 miles away were killed for that same accusation, or actually a far, far lesser accusation in that same month.
[03:42:41] Or Maduro, look at Maduro, they say that he's the head of this operation, the drug trafficking, that's why they arrested him and brought him to New York, and yet he's not facing the death penalty.
[03:42:50] And yet they're giving the death penalty to all these guys in boats.
[03:42:54] And I just felt like, who are these people?
[03:42:56] I haven't seen any of them named by the U.S. government or in the U.S. media.
[03:43:01] And so as long as they're just numbers, I don't think people fully grasp what's going on.
[03:43:06] So we wanted to go into this war to meet enemy combatants on the other side
[03:43:12] and to find out who are these people.
[03:43:15] And what we found is radically different than what the US government has said that is going on down there
[03:43:23] So
[03:43:25] You guys uncovered some
[03:43:27] Some some new information as well in the process and I want to get to that but before we do
[03:43:34] What is the overarching purpose by your estimation now you're not supposed to be speculating I guess but I do want to I do
[03:43:42] You want to understand it because, as you also correctly identified, the arguments or the
[03:43:47] examples that they are, the reason that they're using is narcoterrorism, combating narcoterrorism.
[03:43:54] There's no indication that these people are actually narcoterrorists.
[03:43:57] The distance to US shores is far too vast.
[03:44:02] It's impossible.
[03:44:04] You can't even make that distance with these boats.
[03:44:06] These boats also do not fit the profile of narco-trafficker boats anyway.
[03:44:12] They look like fisherboats.
[03:44:14] Some of the family members have said that these were fishermen that were assassinated.
[03:44:19] There is no accountability whatsoever.
[03:44:22] And on top of that, there's also been assassinations, high-profile assassinations of a prosecutor
[03:44:29] who was tasked with charging anyone, someone, the American government, for the murder
[03:44:35] of some of these compatriots. So, what is the real reason? Because we know the stated
[03:44:42] purpose is narco-terrorism, you know, narco-traffickers, but what is the real reason why the CIA is
[03:44:50] basically restarting its older initiatives in Latin America and just assassinating
[03:44:57] Fisherman Willie Nilly with no real justification whatsoever.
[03:45:00] So, I mentioned Operation Southern Hemisphere ended in the 1st of August. On the very same day, they launched a new operation called Joint Task Force Western Hemisphere, which is basically just expanding what we've seen on the water to land as well.
[03:45:15] So you're going to see larger military operations in Latin America. I think the boat strikes were an entree into that, is one of my guesses.
[03:45:23] What you mentioned with the CIA, those are larger fishing boats off the coast in the
[03:45:31] eastern Pacific.
[03:45:34] And we're not entirely sure who's behind that.
[03:45:37] If I had to guess, and you can connect a lot of dots, but it is speculation, but the
[03:45:41] speculation seems to be that CIA is involved.
[03:45:43] There's good evidence to see they're involved somehow, but it might be also that they're
[03:45:46] working with private military contractors on the water.
[03:45:50] You had things like, and these are facts, but I can't connect the dots on them, but
[03:45:55] Eric Prince has a security contract in Ecuador.
[03:45:58] He denies being involved in this at all, but the fishermen that they ended up picking
[03:46:02] up actually gave to the Salvadorin Coast Guard, where he has a relationship with the president
[03:46:07] of Buckele.
[03:46:08] He's also been …
[03:46:09] Josh, I lost you.
[03:46:14] You said night Buckele.
[03:46:15] Last thing I heard.
[03:46:16] Hello?
[03:46:17] Can you hear me?
[03:46:18] You asked government to give him.
[03:46:19] Yeah, Kelly cut off. Yeah. Yeah. Last time you said was Buchaley. Yeah, I can hear it. Oh, he has a relationship with Buchaley
[03:46:26] So he's one of few people who could call up the president of El Salvador and have their Coast Guard come pick up those fishermen
[03:46:33] He's also pressed US senator Mike Lee for the US government to give him a letter of marquee
[03:46:38] Which would give him legal cover from the United States for pirating activities on behalf of the US
[03:46:44] Which looks a lot like what they're doing over there
[03:46:46] But there's a lot more reporting to be done on what's happening
[03:46:49] I'm losing you again witness down in the Caribbean. I'm losing you again. I'm going to move closer. Okay. Stick with me. Stick with me. I'm going to move closer to the wide by. Okay. Perfect. So beautiful.
[03:47:09] So I think this is really important for you to understand
[03:47:13] that Eric Prince is pressing the US government to give him
[03:47:16] a letter of marquee.
[03:47:18] And that would give him legal cover
[03:47:19] to do pirating activities on behalf of the US government.
[03:47:23] So it could be what happened over there
[03:47:26] was kind of a proof of concept operation for Prince.
[03:47:30] But I don't really know.
[03:47:31] But the military has been responsible for the speed
[03:47:33] boats in the Caribbean.
[03:47:36] And that's what we went down and saw.
[03:47:38] And now some of these people might be involved
[03:47:41] with drug trafficking.
[03:47:42] I don't know, but it doesn't matter.
[03:47:44] That's not a definitely.
[03:47:46] Particularly when you're giving partners to people
[03:47:48] like Juan Orlando Hernandez.
[03:47:50] It's not a definitely, it shouldn't be a definitely.
[03:47:52] So we cared less about that.
[03:47:56] But I will say the two families that we highlighted
[03:47:59] insist that their loved ones had nothing to do with
[03:48:03] drugs, and I can tell you the family we found,
[03:48:05] Both families we found were extremely poor.
[03:48:09] You have to understand the thing we found in St. Lucia,
[03:48:12] she had four kids, no electricity,
[03:48:14] and very little food in the kitchen
[03:48:16] because she relied solely on him.
[03:48:18] And he made about $2,000 a year as a fisherman
[03:48:21] that she told us, and that's been gone for five months.
[03:48:24] And so she's had a really hard time
[03:48:25] putting things together.
[03:48:26] So let's just her second say
[03:48:28] that these people were involved in drug trafficking.
[03:48:30] We're talking at such a low level
[03:48:32] that they can barely even support their families.
[03:48:34] So what are we doing, pardoning Hernandez
[03:48:37] and then going after these guys?
[03:48:38] But I should want to make it clear,
[03:48:40] I really want to make clear that their families insist
[03:48:42] they had nothing to do with drugs.
[03:48:44] That's true of the Caracas family in Columbia
[03:48:46] and of the Joseph family in San Luis.
[03:48:48] Also the other side of the story,
[03:48:50] of course, as you also pointed out,
[03:48:51] is that we have a Coast Guard capable of interception.
[03:48:56] If this is like under normal circumstances,
[03:48:58] if this was a crime syndicate
[03:49:00] that we're trying to tackle,
[03:49:01] If this was narco-trafficking that we oppose, then there are a million different methods
[03:49:09] that are legal, a million different legal avenues that we could pursue, and we're not
[03:49:13] doing that.
[03:49:14] It was just straightforward assassination.
[03:49:15] So I wonder if this is also maybe testing the permission structure for what comes next,
[03:49:25] During that, for Eric Prince, it could possibly be getting involved in the drug trafficking
[03:49:33] trade as the CIA had firm established connections on the other side.
[03:49:39] So I think it still doesn't make any sense why the American media is not more critical
[03:49:46] of these assassinations as well.
[03:49:49] But I don't understand why we're...
[03:49:50] This is something really, really important though.
[03:49:52] What you said about the Coast Guard, one might imagine that Coast Guard has done interdictions
[03:49:57] in those waters for years where they get a lot of intelligence on the cartel, they flip
[03:50:01] members, the way you would conduct an operation if you really wanted to stop drug trafficking.
[03:50:07] You might imagine they stopped those because of the bombings.
[03:50:10] This is not true.
[03:50:11] They are still actively doing interdictions at the same time that they are blowing
[03:50:17] up these little boats.
[03:50:19] So it is arbitrary whether you get interdicted in search and you go on your way, or you just
[03:50:25] get blown out of the sky, having never even seen it coming.
[03:50:29] It could happen on any given day.
[03:50:31] And so I think one of the things is that these organizations, the NARCO cartels down
[03:50:38] there, have been designated as foreign terrorist organizations by the State Department.
[03:50:43] And what that does is it makes banking harder, it makes travel harder, but it does not
[03:50:48] offer a death penalty. But I believe the Trump administration, and one of the theories out
[03:50:53] there I should say from experts is that the Trump administration wants people to believe
[03:50:56] that if you're labeled a terrorist, then they can kill you. And that this is a demonstration
[03:51:02] of that. And if that's the case, it can be really scary because that won't necessarily
[03:51:06] stay there. They're going to bring that theory home. And one of the things about
[03:51:10] home that we're talking about is history. They already are. I was going to say, look
[03:51:14] at Renee Good and Alex Predt.
[03:51:16] Now, I know their names.
[03:51:18] You know their names.
[03:51:19] The two American citizens were killed by federal agents.
[03:51:22] We didn't know any of these names of the 221 people
[03:51:27] that were killed in Operation Southern Despair.
[03:51:29] Now I wanna say there's an organization down there
[03:51:30] called Elclip, and you can find their work
[03:51:33] at elclip.org.
[03:51:34] It is a consortium of investigative journalists
[03:51:37] that work across Latin America.
[03:51:38] They worked with Air Wars,
[03:51:40] who we also worked with Air Wars in this investigation,
[03:51:43] And they identified, at first it was 13,
[03:51:45] but I think they ended up with 21 names,
[03:51:47] which is really difficult because these guys go to sea
[03:51:50] and don't come back way too frequently
[03:51:52] for all sorts of reasons, like fishing is a dangerous job.
[03:51:55] So all these families often know is
[03:51:57] their loved one went to sea and didn't come back.
[03:51:59] And then they hear that the US says that there was a strike
[03:52:02] and they're putting the pieces together,
[03:52:04] but it's very difficult to confirm.
[03:52:06] And let me just say about the videos, what's so sad.
[03:52:08] You know, Trump is posting those on true social
[03:52:11] and really boasting about them.
[03:52:13] Their kids are seeing those.
[03:52:15] That's how the son of the Granza family found out
[03:52:18] about his dad, his mom was protecting him from the video
[03:52:21] and the kid at school showed him and said,
[03:52:23] look, your dad's a drug runner and got blown up
[03:52:24] and shows him the video.
[03:52:26] You know what traumatizing that is?
[03:52:28] I mean, it just is so cruel.
[03:52:31] It's so dehumanizing to not recognize
[03:52:34] that these are human beings with families
[03:52:36] on the other side.
[03:52:37] And so that was really our big mission,
[03:52:39] when I say arm come up fault lines,
[03:52:40] it's a show on Al Jazeera.
[03:52:42] Our mission was to try to put some faces
[03:52:45] with those numbers to find out who was on the other side.
[03:52:47] And we went down and met these two families,
[03:52:49] three families, that it's just a really different picture
[03:52:52] than what you're seeing in the U.S.
[03:52:55] Outside of the literal war crimes that are taking place,
[03:53:00] I wanted to ask about the violation of sovereignty
[03:53:03] because many of these strikes,
[03:53:05] according to leaders of the Caribbean,
[03:53:07] The strikes are occurring in territorial waters
[03:53:10] without authorization from said governments, right?
[03:53:13] So one, what is the legal framework
[03:53:16] to operate in this way?
[03:53:18] And two, how are regional governments reacting
[03:53:21] to the unilateral use of US military power
[03:53:25] on their own sovereign territory?
[03:53:28] So for the first question,
[03:53:30] there are several legal regimes
[03:53:32] that could fit what's happening here.
[03:53:34] It's international humanitarian law.
[03:53:37] It's human rights law, it's the law of war,
[03:53:40] it's maritime law, and it's our own domestic laws.
[03:53:43] And under all of those laws, every expert I talked to
[03:53:46] said this is either a war crime or murder,
[03:53:49] depending on which one you want to use.
[03:53:51] And when they say murder, they're serious
[03:53:53] that the people involved in this,
[03:53:54] from the soldier pressing the trigger on the drone
[03:53:57] all the way up to Hexeth, but not President Trump,
[03:54:00] will be exposed to a lifetime of legal exposure
[03:54:03] because murder has no statute of limitations.
[03:54:07] And so when the administration changes,
[03:54:09] some things could happen.
[03:54:10] And they know that in the Trump administration
[03:54:12] because when you look at why Rubio
[03:54:14] has gone after their national criminal court,
[03:54:16] both in the speech he put online
[03:54:17] and the op-ed that he wrote in the Wall Street Journal,
[03:54:20] he referenced that they could actually
[03:54:22] go after the Trump administration
[03:54:23] for what's happening in Latin America specifically.
[03:54:26] So they're thinking about the boat crimes
[03:54:27] and that they have a legal exposure to it.
[03:54:30] The second part of your question,
[03:54:32] we spoke to members, and I also spoke
[03:54:34] to the prime minister of St. Lucia, Prime Minister Pierre,
[03:54:38] his answer was that he has requested information
[03:54:42] from the US about this strike, and they
[03:54:44] have provided no information.
[03:54:45] And basically, what can I do, like hands in the air?
[03:54:50] What I heard from people on his staff
[03:54:54] was that he was scared, that they were scared
[03:54:57] of the Trump administration.
[03:54:59] And they mentioned specifically at one point
[03:55:01] that there's a lot of things the Trump administration
[03:55:03] to do from sanctions to tariffs.
[03:55:06] They could even force third country deportees on them.
[03:55:09] And just in the last week or two,
[03:55:10] St. Lucia has agreed to take in third country deportees
[03:55:13] from the United States now.
[03:55:15] But they feel kind of powerless.
[03:55:18] In the case that we found the family in St. Lucia,
[03:55:20] the two families in St. Lucia, Ricky Joseph
[03:55:22] and Nafi Williams, their boat was
[03:55:24] killed in domestic waters.
[03:55:28] We believe it was within five miles of the coast
[03:55:29] of St. Vincent, which was right across the water.
[03:55:33] It's just, the sense I get is that those governments are really scared of the Trump administration
[03:55:40] and feel powerless to do anything about it.
[03:55:44] Do you feel like, if this is a forced projection upon countries to deny their sovereignty deliberately
[03:55:53] by the American government, do you feel like the Maduro kidnapping also serves a similar
[03:55:58] uh... purpose as well considering that you've had some conversations with the
[03:56:02] regional leaders
[03:56:03] uh... do they have uh... a sense of of do they do they fear
[03:56:07] potential actions
[03:56:09] because the american government has shown that
[03:56:12] in venezuela is
[03:56:13] technically much more powerful than a lot of these other smaller countries
[03:56:16] uh... and yet the united states created a sham trial
[03:56:19] uh... uh... unearthed uh... i believe
[03:56:23] ridiculous justifications that the CIA concocted all the way back in the 90s
[03:56:27] that they actually had shelved
[03:56:29] uh... and those ridiculous justifications
[03:56:31] they themselves actually
[03:56:33] uh... they themselves actually uh... destroyed after they kidnapped maduro
[03:56:38] and brought him in
[03:56:39] uh... to new york
[03:56:41] uh... is this uh... is a real fear that other regional leaders have
[03:56:45] that this could happen to them what happened in the door that happened to
[03:56:47] them
[03:56:48] i think that i think it's less specific that they could be taken out
[03:56:52] particularly because I think, say, Prime Minister Pierre probably feels too small to be taken
[03:56:57] out in an operation like that would be my guess, but what you're touching on, the U.S. is using
[03:57:04] its power so broadly down there that, yes, absolutely, the message from the Maduro raid
[03:57:11] is that the U.S. could go after anyone, but the truth is if you look at the elections
[03:57:14] down there right now, they may not have to because so many countries are voting
[03:57:18] to the right down there.
[03:57:19] a massive political shift happening across Latin America that is dovetailing kind of
[03:57:23] perfectly with the U.S. wanting to expand its military operations.
[03:57:28] Another way I think the Maduro thing plays into this is on the U.S. media is that the
[03:57:32] coverage dropped off significantly after Maduro was taken of the boat strikes, and yet there
[03:57:38] are more boat strikes after Maduro than before it.
[03:57:41] So they weren't really about Maduro.
[03:57:42] They're about this broader strategy.
[03:57:44] Maduro, the boat strikes which are seen off the coast of Ecuador, the New Deals
[03:57:47] with Guatemala, the New Dills with Columbia. This is all part of the Donnero strategy or
[03:57:53] what SALCOM would say, the friction, that they want to cause greater friction to the cartels
[03:57:59] down there. But it also seems a way of extending U.S. power and helping governments that they
[03:58:07] like, and leveraging that power for things like in Venezuela, where they're now talking
[03:58:11] about not just oil, but mineral rights as well.
[03:58:16] So, this is, this entire military campaign has been conducted out of the public eye for
[03:58:23] the most part.
[03:58:25] What were some of your biggest hurdles for fault lines when you were obtaining U.S. military
[03:58:30] records and kill orders and intelligence logs?
[03:58:33] So, we didn't get any intelligence logs.
[03:58:36] I wish we did.
[03:58:38] We also didn't get any serious answers from the South Com State Department or the White
[03:58:41] House when we asked them questions.
[03:58:43] We did ask them specific questions, such as not just about the legality and the framework
[03:58:47] of it, but did you feel Alejandro Carranza in September on this specific strike?
[03:58:53] Did you feel Ricky Joseph or Naughty Williams on February 13th in this strike?
[03:58:59] They didn't respond specifically to any of our questions.
[03:59:02] They responded, but they didn't respond specifically to any of our questions, which if you're
[03:59:06] wondering if they know who they're killing, if they haven't announced any names, it
[03:59:10] It doesn't confirm that, but it certainly doesn't counter that argument either.
[03:59:15] You hit on something really important here, House, and it's so hard to confirm that these
[03:59:21] things are happening.
[03:59:22] The truth is, we wouldn't know.
[03:59:23] If they didn't post the videos, we would just, fishermen, we're going missing, and
[03:59:29] we wouldn't know anything more than that.
[03:59:31] And the fact that we report 61 strikes and 221 killed, we must caveat that with that
[03:59:37] we know well, that they told us about.
[03:59:40] Because each one of these happens over the horizon, with no witnesses, with no surviving
[03:59:45] evidence, with no surviving weapon, and no survivors.
[03:59:48] We should talk about the survivors because they offer an interesting portal into this.
[03:59:52] One of the interesting things in the case with Ricky Joseph and Naughty Williams in
[03:59:56] St. Lucia was that that boat ended up washing back to St. Lucia and the owner of the
[04:00:03] boat was able to get it out and bring it to shore.
[04:00:06] Now we have a piece of physical evidence that shows like, I wouldn't have found it, it's
[04:00:11] sitting behind a police building being covered up with vines and I had to shoo away cows.
[04:00:16] Nobody was treating it like evidence, but when you really look at it you can see the
[04:00:19] wood is charred, there's shrapnel holes all throughout it, it was a massive explosion.
[04:00:24] We have a piece of evidence here that says that the boat these guys were in blew up
[04:00:29] and we know what was the boat they were in because we know the guy who owns the
[04:00:31] boat and it had a specific paint job on it and he's able to identify his boat.
[04:00:36] So this is a case where, because one of the challenges here was how do we confirm that
[04:00:41] the missing person was actually killed in a strike and then how do we get their families
[04:00:45] to talk to us because so many families didn't want to talk to us.
[04:00:48] But in this case we had a piece of real physical evidence and so we filmed it.
[04:00:54] But the truth is he's been sitting out there for five months getting covered up
[04:00:56] with vines.
[04:00:57] Five more months it's just not going to be there.
[04:00:59] real, you know what it's evidence of? It's evidence that no one's actually investigating this.
[04:01:04] That's what it's actually evidence of, as well as the fact that it's this massive
[04:01:08] boat strike happened. Speaking of lack of investigation from proper authorities,
[04:01:17] do you feel like there's any real congressional oversight in the future? And do you feel like
[04:01:21] your investigative work will potentially aid the Democrats if they ever get around to it,
[04:01:27] to identify and develop a better understanding of the necessity,
[04:01:32] tactical necessity of these operations and also potential war crimes that took place.
[04:01:37] We asked some people, some political insiders, why aren't the Democrats like
[04:01:42] being louder about this? And the most cynical answers I heard were they may
[04:01:48] want to continue. And so they don't want to question the authority, which
[04:01:53] which is mind-boggling, but you have had, like Senator Cain has come out and called these murders,
[04:01:59] but you have not seen nearly the outcry that one would think from 221, now I think it's
[04:02:06] 225, extraditional killings by the United States government.
[04:02:10] You just have not seen the outcry.
[04:02:12] You mentioned survivors earlier, and I want to touch on that because there are a few
[04:02:14] examples of survivors.
[04:02:16] The very first strike on September 2 had two survivors.
[04:02:20] No one, Trump posted the first video where you see the boat blow up.
[04:02:24] No one but select members of Congress has seen the second strike that killed the survivors
[04:02:30] in the water.
[04:02:31] It was 45 minutes later and they described it as these guys were in the water waving
[04:02:36] at the aircraft above, probably asking for help because why would they think that
[04:02:40] aircraft would blow them up and then they got blown up and killed.
[04:02:44] Another instance of survivors that Air Wars has documented is there were, I want
[04:02:49] I want to say nine people in the water,
[04:02:51] somewhere off the coast of Central America and the Pacific.
[04:02:54] And so the US called for a rescue operation.
[04:02:57] They sent a Coast Guard plane from Utah
[04:03:00] that took its time getting there,
[04:03:02] had to stop for refueling, had to change crew.
[04:03:05] 45 hours later, they go out to look
[04:03:08] in the open ocean for survivors.
[04:03:09] And of course, there are none.
[04:03:11] That's because survivors present a real problem here.
[04:03:14] Three survivors have been picked up.
[04:03:16] One is in Costa Rica.
[04:03:17] Last I heard, still in intensive care and can't talk.
[04:03:20] Two others, one returned to Ecuador,
[04:03:22] one returned to Columbia, we were in touch with families.
[04:03:24] They're off the radar, they definitely don't want to talk,
[04:03:27] but here's the crazy thing,
[04:03:29] they were picked up and repatriated back to their country.
[04:03:32] No charges.
[04:03:33] So wait, how are we saying that these guys
[04:03:35] are enemy combatants that should be killed on site
[04:03:38] or we can give them a free ride home with no charges?
[04:03:41] There is no legal regime where that makes sense
[04:03:44] whatsoever, but that's the reality
[04:03:46] we're living in. That's crazy. Do you feel like mainstream media is also playing
[04:03:55] formative role in desensitizing Americans to this kind of brutality considering
[04:04:00] that there is some aesthetic coverage on the strikes but it's largely cast aside.
[04:04:07] It all signs point to, maybe not directly, but all signs point to an effort, a deliberate
[04:04:19] effort to desensitize Americans to these kinds of acts of gross violence and war crimes.
[04:04:28] The U.S. Director for Amnesty International, Amanda Klassink, said in our piece that she
[04:04:35] thinks that them releasing these kind of grainy videos has gamified the issue.
[04:04:43] And so, you know, I wouldn't say that they are decent, that's not a senior engineering,
[04:04:48] sorry, I guess the kids aren't interested, because I don't think they're covering it
[04:04:53] enough to do that legitimately.
[04:04:56] But when they do cover it and they show these snuff films that look like a video game,
[04:05:01] I think that does go to decent size people too.
[04:05:04] aren't taking it as serious as they should, but it is as serious as if there
[04:05:09] were a drug dealer on the corner in Washington DC that a cop found drugs on
[04:05:14] if the cop took out his gun and shot the guy in the head on video and then
[04:05:20] your government posted it. That's what's happening here. That's the same
[04:05:24] back pattern that's happening here. When drugs are caught coming across the
[04:05:28] border they don't tell the driver the truck to get back in so they can
[04:05:31] launch a missile at it. There's a legal process. And there's actually, you want to talk to that
[04:05:37] guy. You want to find out who he's working for. He's a source of intelligence. You don't
[04:05:41] just murder them, but it is murder. You killed them without a trial.
[04:05:46] Yeah. I can't begin to comprehend what is the purpose of this other than just brutality
[04:05:55] for the sake of brutality, like the only thing I can try and connect to is like previous
[04:06:01] operations in Latin America, maybe like cutting out the middlemen if these people were actual
[04:06:06] drug runners, but even then, this is not an established drug route at all, right?
[04:06:12] As far as I understand, even according to our DEA reporting, the areas of operation
[04:06:19] are are not exactly known
[04:06:21] uh... pre-established uh... routes for narco trafficking
[04:06:25] when that when it has been a free established route for narco traffic
[04:06:28] into my understanding that is a route that goes to europe
[04:06:32] not to the u.s. now the both irrickie joseph and not be williams ran to the
[04:06:35] struck by maltaut the coast of st benson that is not
[04:06:39] a free established uh... narco trafficking
[04:06:43] area
[04:06:44] i can say that when you look at all the strikes in the homily it's the only
[04:06:48] one that's over there, and so there's no real good sense for that.
[04:06:51] I do think you're right about brutality for brutality's sake.
[04:06:54] There's been reporting that Stephen Miller talked about doing this in the first Trump
[04:06:57] administration.
[04:06:58] And Miller's kind of interesting in that one of his favorite books, I think it's
[04:07:03] called Camp of the Saints, is about a boat full of brown immigrants coming to Europe
[04:07:07] and what they have to do to stop it from getting there, to save civilization.
[04:07:12] And so this fits that model.
[04:07:15] But I also think this is really about extending broader military control over Latin America
[04:07:20] at large.
[04:07:21] Yeah.
[04:07:22] So I was going to say, I think it creates an environment of concentration, as you said,
[04:07:31] that makes, I guess in some respects, Latin American leadership more malleable, more persuadable,
[04:07:37] even if they aren't already outright puppets of American enterprise, American interest.
[04:07:47] Where do you see all of this going?
[04:07:50] Well, I definitely think it deserves more reporting and more scrutiny now as we see
[04:07:55] expanded military operations on the ground.
[04:07:58] There's already been a bombing in Ecuador of a dairy farm.
[04:08:01] We're going to see more strikes in Guatemala.
[04:08:03] We're going to see them in Colombia.
[04:08:06] It's going to dovetail with a right-leaning, populist movement that's being elected at
[04:08:11] this time in Latin America, and the U.S. is really about to, I think, flex this muscle
[04:08:19] down there with more military training, more military control, going after the minerals,
[04:08:24] going after the oil, and you're going to see a heavy U.S. presence in Central and
[04:08:29] South America that you haven't seen since the 80s with, you know, prior to a wrong
[04:08:36] contract probably. And I think this was just an entree into this much larger
[04:08:41] thing that we're going to see over the next two years. Josh Rushing, thank you so
[04:08:47] much for coming on and thank you for all the work you're doing out there.
[04:08:52] Hey, awesome. Can I just give a shout out to the executive producer of
[04:08:55] fault lines. Of course. Producer on this film, Nick Pollack, the editor, Adi Haspel, and
[04:09:00] the director of photography, Rodrigo Daldos. They put so much into this film that I hope
[04:09:08] people really go to YouTube and find it. It's called Killing at Sea, and it is a fault
[04:09:13] line about just their English. And I gotta thank you too so much for having me, Alan.
[04:09:17] I really appreciate it. Of course. Thank you for coming on.
[04:09:21] Yeah. Have a good one.
[04:09:22] on the next one? Hopefully there's more fun things to report on rather than horrible war crimes that
[04:09:30] the American government is taking part in without any scrutiny or accountability. Hopefully next
[04:09:36] time your reporting will be about how we held these criminals accountable. Nope. We're headed to
[04:09:42] the Amazon to talk about mercury poisoning at the tribes there and the mercury is from illegal
[04:09:45] gold mining. Oh god. All right. Well, Joshua Rushing, thank you so much for coming on.
[04:09:50] All right. That was Joshua rushing of Algebra fault lines. The documentary is available on Algebra English inside America's deadly war unsuspected drug boats. The latest fault lines documentary came out five days ago. This is criminally under reported criminally under reported. Unfortunately, speaking of which, by the way, here's Raditz.
[04:10:19] Talking to Chris Wright about Venezuela, this is obviously one element of our activities in South America.
[04:10:26] And Mr. Secretary, just finally, you negotiated this Venezuelan deal with Delcey Rodriguez, who was vice president under the Maduro regime, the regime that the Trump administration attacked as a socialist dictatorship.
[04:10:39] Why do you trust her?
[04:10:43] Well, I wasn't the negotiator on the deal, but we have a lot of leverage over Venezuela.
[04:10:49] We control the sale of oil outside of their country.
[04:10:52] So right now, they are forced to work in partnership with us, and they are working in partnership
[04:10:58] with us.
[04:10:59] It's drawing billions of dollars in investment, and it's transforming that region from a region
[04:11:04] of conflict to a region of commerce.
[04:11:06] I think the momentum going that direction, whoever is ruling Venezuela, is quite strong.
[04:11:12] very positive outlook for the Western Hemisphere.
[04:11:16] Yeah, we're stealing their gold, we're stealing their oil, there's no accountability whatsoever.
[04:11:23] International law is completely fucking destroyed, gutted, eviscerated by not only the previous
[04:11:28] administration under the brand and leadership, but also continuing along those same exact
[04:11:34] lines with the Trump administration.
[04:11:36] We are going back to a more vulgar, more overt, not covert, imperialist mindset.
[04:11:45] Colonialism, in the way that we understand it, in the way that it used to exist, is making
[04:11:52] a comeback in a big way.
[04:11:56] Thanks very much for joining us this morning, Mr. Secretary.
[04:12:02] Mike, think about that.
[04:12:05] That's your follow-up.
[04:12:06] follow-up whatsoever? Even the question itself is literally about do you trust
[04:12:15] Delcey Rodriguez? The question itself should be why are you stealing Venezuela's
[04:12:21] natural resources without any pushback whatsoever, especially at a time when it
[04:12:28] is necessary for Venezuela to maintain some level of wealth and prosperity so
[04:12:34] So they can actually recover from the devastating earthquake.
[04:12:37] Yeah, it's all gumboat diplomacy.
[04:12:45] We are committing piracy or murdering people.
[04:12:48] I mean, we're not even, the thing is, we're not even like stealing or intercepting the
[04:12:55] supposed drugs that are being trafficked in this region, right?
[04:13:00] We're just murdering people for the sake of murder.
[04:13:03] slaughtering people for the sake of slaughter alone. It is truly remarkable. I don't know what the
[04:13:11] purpose of this all is. Also, part of the argument is obviously that Delcey Rodriguez has to play
[04:13:23] ball because look what we did to Maduro. Like she doesn't have a lot of options. Let's be real.
[04:13:42] Anyway, here's the guy that we put on House Foreign Affairs, the Middle East lead, Jared Moskowitz.
[04:13:50] Jared Moskowitz recently got placed in this position, I believe, was Brad Sherman, who
[04:13:57] left so that Jared Moskowitz could take his position before he even wins his re-election.
[04:14:03] There's no guarantee that he will.
[04:14:06] Akim Javri's put Jared Moskowitz as self-described Ronda-Santis Democrat who's further the
[04:14:10] right than J. E. Vanz on the Iran War and a proud supporter of Israel and a recipient
[04:14:13] of APEC money on the House Foreign Affairs Committee last week by Dem leadership.
[04:14:18] There are the results of that placement.
[04:14:22] Here's Jared Moskowitz criticizing Trump from the right on not sufficiently delivering blows
[04:14:30] to the Houthis.
[04:14:31] Hamas has been degraded.
[04:14:33] Hezbollah has been degraded.
[04:14:36] But that the Houthis have not been degraded.
[04:14:40] Yes.
[04:14:41] The Houthis have not been degraded.
[04:14:44] The Houthis need to be contained militarily and the only entity that contain them long-term,
[04:14:52] sustainably, is the Yemeni government.
[04:14:54] And so far the Yemeni government has not been given the support it needs from the United
[04:14:58] States to do that.
[04:14:59] So you're saying the Trump administration has not supported the Yemeni government,
[04:15:03] is that what you're saying?
[04:15:04] Both government, the Biden administration, the Trump administration is not supporting
[04:15:10] the Yemeni government in its fight against the Houthis.
[04:15:12] Is that your testimony?
[04:15:14] My testimony is that U.S. administrations, Republicans and Democrats, have not supported
[04:15:20] Yemeni government that have not provided-
[04:15:23] But who's in charge now?
[04:15:26] The Trump administration is right now.
[04:15:27] Okay, so the current administration, his name is Trump, we could say, he puts his
[04:15:31] name on everything, is not, your testimony is that the current administration, the
[04:15:36] Trump administration is not supporting the Yemeni government in its fight against
[04:15:40] one of the largest terrorist militant groups in the-
[04:15:44] Yeah, when I look at the situation in the Gulf, in the region, I think to myself, there
[04:15:50] are more targets that are left unbombed.
[04:15:53] Why don't we bomb them harder?
[04:15:57] That's a Democrat that was recently minted as the Middle East lead here, by the way.
[04:16:03] He's in charge of the men in region for the House Foreign Affairs Committee now.
[04:16:06] And if Democrats win the House, and he wins his reelection, he will have tremendous
[04:16:11] amount of power. That's what Hakeem Jeffries did. The richest man of the world gets away
[04:16:20] with almost no screening over this while the media obsess over all kinds of much less relevant
[04:16:24] people. Madaglaces is our really loved system cable networks as the Republican gets about
[04:16:28] Elon Musk's affection for anti-Semitic accounts on here. How does one come to be shooting
[04:16:34] the breeze with this guy. Thank you, Matt Iglesias. He's right. He's right about this. I've
[04:16:54] asked the same question as well.
[04:17:03] Millie's that's your time. I think the current administration the Trump
[04:17:07] administration should consider supporting them in government and yes it
[04:17:10] hasn't done that yet. Okay all right I appreciate it thank you Mr. Chairman I
[04:17:13] yield back. Now recognize Representative Wilson for five minutes. Thank you very
[04:17:20] Mr. Chairman, I want to welcome a ranking member, Jared Meskowitz. We're so grateful for his service
[04:17:28] and I'm really grateful that there'll be a good team for America with Carson Moskowitz with
[04:17:34] John Mike Lawler. But that in mind.
[04:17:44] It's wild that like our our our struggle will continue. You know what I mean? It's not it's not
[04:17:50] ending with you know winning a couple elections for socialist democrats like socialists that run and
[04:17:58] win on the democratic ticket. Like there's just still so much more work to be done. It's not
[04:18:02] not just about defeating the Republicans, we have people on the supposedly left flank of
[04:18:09] American politics that are just straightforward Republicans and sometimes even more aggressive
[04:18:17] than Republicans.
[04:18:19] Republicans themselves would not be making an argument on Donald Trump's actions against
[04:18:23] the Houthis right now.
[04:18:25] That's Jared Moskowitz.
[04:18:29] Neocons are not make neocons are not making that argument
[04:18:39] Bobak Vadad
[04:18:42] writes Iraq she attended a parliamentary committee meeting where Iran's conditions for reopening the Shreddo home rooms were discussed
[04:18:47] Al Jazeera reported the Qatar E delegation which visited Tehran on Sunday brought proposed with lower attention to the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman and
[04:18:54] Explore a possible return to Tehran return of Tehran and Washington talks
[04:18:58] stocks. Cutters form ministry spokesman. Then, Tossian and the Doha's priority is reopening
[04:19:04] the Hormuz, preventing further attacks on Iran and working towards a lasting settlement,
[04:19:08] not just another temporary pause. Trump reposted the Washington Journal piece saying, Pazushkian
[04:19:14] and Galabov want to negotiate an end of the war while Iran has leveraged.
[04:19:18] And tonight, Russia today citing a political source, Tehran says Washington has sent new
[04:19:21] proposals to Iran through mediators. Tehran has reportedly responded with its own conditions
[04:19:25] wall contacts continue. None of this means the deal is around the corner, but there's
[04:19:29] certainly a lot more going on behind the scenes that we can see.
[04:19:48] What is this? Homo would have been started in the mayor's office to condemn Hossam,
[04:19:54] Condemn Hassan Piker. Oh yeah, New York City Mayor Davey's new office support union organizing
[04:20:00] that was pretty beast mo by the way. Respect Azor on Once Again.
[04:20:08] for condemning Hamas Abi, both Hamas and Hassan.
[04:20:38] Anyway, W. Talariko, what did he say?
[04:20:45] Oh, he's doing a pro-union thing.
[04:20:49] Talariko.
[04:20:50] Oh, it begins.
[04:20:54] The AF is attacking Khamis Moshayt and possibly Al-Ha Saudi Arabia.
[04:20:59] The response to the Saudi air campaign in Yemen has begun.
[04:21:09] Yeah anything short of Yambu is not going to be a sufficient military deterrence for
[04:21:12] Saudi Arabia but who knows.
[04:21:16] Um yeah we'll talk about Mamdani's new initiative as well.
[04:21:23] The AF just announced they'd down another Saudi CH-4, that's four Saudi male drones
[04:21:28] in 24 hours.
[04:21:35] And Paxton deploying his nukes?
[04:21:38] Oh shit the persist is Scott Prezler.
[04:21:40] See you soon Dallas.
[04:21:42] I am all into elect cam paxton in the U.S. Senate in Texas every Republican senator
[04:21:45] should be on board with helping Paxton.
[04:21:50] That's the guy.
[04:21:58] That's the goat.
[04:22:01] He's gonna Scott Pressler the shit out of that election, dude.
[04:22:05] He's Mr. Turnout.
[04:22:08] He's Mr. Turnout, dude.
[04:22:13] Thank you.
[04:22:43] Oh my god.
[04:22:48] Isn't there the guy who turned out the Amish to vote for Trump?
[04:22:54] Is he under investigation or something?
[04:22:56] I don't know.
[04:22:59] You're just jealous of his hair?
[04:23:02] Yeah.
[04:23:03] I'm not jealous of a man who's in a prison of his own making.
[04:23:08] Okay.
[04:23:09] So I'm wearing you coming to Dallas for the RNC because I don't want to be fucking killed
[04:23:18] Anyway, how the far right AFD secured shock when in German election, let's let's it turned the attention over to
[04:23:26] another group another country and its
[04:23:30] foundational failures
[04:23:34] For once
[04:23:36] You'll terrify, depending on where you stand.
[04:23:40] The far-right AFD essentially pro-making Germany great again, embracing a form of nationalism
[04:23:46] that until recently dared not speak its name in a country still officially haunted by its
[04:23:51] Nazi past.
[04:23:53] In this state, a party only founded 13 years ago has crushed the mighty Christian Democrats,
[04:24:00] the ruling party of the hapless federal chancellor Friedrich Merz.
[04:24:04] If you're looking ahead to the state of German politics, this is nothing less than an earthquake.
[04:24:10] It's an earthquake, it's a historical turn, it's not only a result.
[04:24:16] And even more important than our result is the result of the Christian Democrats.
[04:24:21] They are destroyed, they are on the bottom.
[04:24:24] And that's what they deserve.
[04:24:25] Because if we want to implement a new policy for Germany, the Christian Democrats have to be destroyed.
[04:24:33] What does this mean for Germany and the future Germany?
[04:24:36] The answer.
[04:24:40] The answer to that question in song.
[04:24:43] The acceptable verse of the German national anthem
[04:24:46] not usually sung on these occasions unless you're with the AFD.
[04:24:51] I've never been to an election party in Germany
[04:24:54] where the national anthem, the national anthem was sung like this.
[04:24:59] What does that mean for you?
[04:25:01] It's never been to an election party with another party as mine, so I can't answer this question.
[04:25:06] But we are always singing the national anthem.
[04:25:10] Because you're very patriotic?
[04:25:12] Yes, of course.
[04:25:14] What about the darker parts of German history, the 12 years of Nazi rule?
[04:25:17] Is that something that you won't be able to forget about?
[04:25:19] No, it can't be forgotten, but we don't want to give this dark year so much importance.
[04:25:27] The after party was celebrated not in a beer cellar, but a beer garden the dress code eclectic
[04:25:33] Where the AFD parts company with some other European right in populace is that they are pro-Putin
[04:25:40] But their main concern is transformation at home. What are the three most important?
[04:25:48] Bro
[04:25:50] That's like, it's so funny for the European considerations that they're like, this is the new Nazi party where the original Nazi party made quite a bit of impact on the European continent.
[04:26:06] And the question here is, they're also pro-Putinists like, dude, they're pro everything bad.
[04:26:13] Pro-Pudin is bad. It's like maybe eighth on the list of priorities here. You know what I mean?
[04:26:24] Like these guys are fucking fascist, dude. Even the fact that they're like singing the
[04:26:29] national anthem, that is obviously a signal. German patriotism is, post-World War II,
[04:26:37] Germans actually shout away from demonstrations of patriotism. You don't see a lot of like
[04:26:42] flag waving in Germany, specifically outside of like, you know, national sport events, things of that nature, right?
[04:26:52] Like, you don't... Germany didn't denazify adequately, but at least they like,
[04:27:01] uh, the one, I guess the one concession was like, no affirmative, uh, uh, patriotic displays,
[04:27:09] right so any kind of display of patriotism from these guys from our perspective they're like oh whatever
[04:27:15] they're singing the national anthem but like in germany it means something so i understand the cultural
[04:27:19] difference there okay i understand the cultural difference there however once again them being
[04:27:27] pro russia or them seeing the national anthem is like not even close to some of the worst
[04:27:33] first shit that these guys are capable of doing.
[04:27:42] What are the things that you would like to see change in Germany?
[04:27:47] Well, first of all, there's education, there's migration, and there's economic issues.
[04:27:51] And we will see a change here in Saxony-Andhau.
[04:27:54] And maybe that's a plan for all of Germany.
[04:27:58] Q. Alice Weidl, the leader of the AFD nationwide.
[04:28:11] The Christian Democrats shook their heads in disbelief.
[04:28:14] The party that had helped to found the Federal Republic and unite Germany after the fall
[04:28:19] of the Berlin Wall now faces oblivion.
[04:28:22] One lifeline could be a pact with the AFD, dismantling the so-called firewall.
[04:28:27] I put this to a local Grandi.
[04:28:29] Do you think-
[04:28:30] Pro-Putin, pro-Israel, pro-Maga, Islamophobic, they're even against disabled kids in- in schools?
[04:28:45] I don't know, man.
[04:28:47] I mean, Germany, I- I don't even know...
[04:28:51] I don't even know what to say
[04:28:53] about the situation in Germany because it's even more cooked than America in some respects.
[04:29:01] Israeli TV laments the AFD parties win in Saxony-Anhalt saying the policy of many other
[04:29:05] leaders on Israel is the same as the German radical left. They also complained that they reject German
[04:29:09] guilt. Many of them will either elude or clearly say things that are almost forbidden in Germany,
[04:29:15] like using slogans of the Nazi area like Germany above everything or demanding like the prior
[04:29:23] leader of the AFD did to put an end to this history commemoration of the of the Holocaust. He
[04:29:31] called it no more than bird shits in the thousand year history of German civilization cultivation
[04:29:38] and that is really and that should worry us. The policy of the AFD towards Israel,
[04:29:44] many most of their leaders is the same as the German radical left.
[04:30:14] So.
[04:30:16] So.
[04:30:18] Oh.
[04:30:20] Oh.
[04:30:22] Meaning catastrophic.
[04:30:26] They do not want to, for example, approve weapons to be delivered to Israel as a consequence of the Gaza war.
[04:30:34] So when you look at the entire picture, there are many, many reasons to worry about if you're a German citizen today. Many of them will.
[04:30:42] That's so funny. Lady, you're worried about the wrong shit. I mean obviously this is the Israeli television, so...
[04:30:57] How can Germany's AFD floor with Nazism while being pro-Israel because Israel's increasingly seen as an extreme national estate, willing to commit atrocities to promote ethnic purity that suits the AFD just fine?
[04:31:09] Yeah, they're not anti-Israel by the way. They are pro-Israel. They're just not as like, I guess, pro-Israel as the other German parties are, but they're definitely pro-Israel.
[04:31:25] Israel, it's like thinking Donald Trump was critical of Israel when he was running.
[04:31:54] Because the Democrats were supplying arms to Israel's genocide, and Trump kept repeatedly
[04:32:01] saying that he was going to end the war, that he was the peace president, AFD's messaging
[04:32:09] around this issue is damn near identical.
[04:32:14] The Liberals set the stage for fascist the pounce and win, okay?
[04:32:20] Remarkable how the direct role of the German policy on the Ukraine war and the result in
[04:32:27] this result totally goes undiscussed even by the left.
[04:32:29] The sanctions have directly contributed to the economic decline in East Germany that
[04:32:32] fueled AFD voters.
[04:32:34] Meanwhile, look at what the party campaigned on.
[04:32:39] The party has repeatedly called for an end to the German support of Ukraine in a presumption
[04:32:42] of the energy agreements in Moscow that provided Germany with cheap oil and gas
[04:32:45] until supplies were abruptly shut off in 2022, when Russian troops attacked Kyiv.
[04:32:50] Though its program calls for Russian language teaching to be expanded in schools and underlines
[04:32:54] the strong interest in maintaining good relations with Russia both economically and culturally.
[04:32:59] The current anti-Russian policy of established parties on the other hand is not in Germany's
[04:33:03] interest.
[04:33:05] AFD calls for German economic sovereignty set as sanctions policy.
[04:33:11] I'm saying this right now. I'm gonna repeat it one more time. I said this about LFI in Ménageau in France
[04:33:16] I think if I was a European leftist if I was a European communist if I was a European socialist
[04:33:22] I would really ham up the fact that left parties are the only way to to develop dignity and sovereignty for European nations
[04:33:30] because
[04:33:31] otherwise
[04:33:33] It's going to be the right that capitalizes on this and they are no real investment whatsoever in doing that
[04:33:39] They will go the Maloney route every single one of them, okay?
[04:33:45] nationalism in Europe
[04:33:48] post-World War two
[04:33:50] Ultranationalism and Nazism and fascism in Europe post-World War two has always aligned with America
[04:33:56] Okay, they will lie. They will cheat. They will steal. They will say whatever the fuck gets them the votes
[04:34:01] But I don't believe the AFD will actually do anything all that different with their relations with Russia
[04:34:07] unless America is comfortable with them doing something different with their
[04:34:11] relations with Russia. They're also just selling out the Russia instead of America
[04:34:16] and they're actually selling out to America at the same time. Yeah, I don't
[04:34:20] even think that they will... I don't even think that they'll actually move in
[04:34:25] that direction.
[04:34:37] Meanwhile, MERS has been slashing social spending so he can pour more money into a future disastrous
[04:34:44] war against Russia.
[04:34:45] Menachon is basically the only prominent left-wing voice I�ve seen even allude to this.
[04:34:50] Yeah, the far right is back in Germany, Menachon said.
[04:34:54] �Catastrophic demonstrations of the blindness of Europe�s centrist politicians.
[04:34:57] This is disaster.
[04:34:58] This disaster is their doing.
[04:35:00] Under these conditions, the German military project to create Europe�s first conventional
[04:35:04] army is unacceptable for France.
[04:35:11] What level of chickens for KFC is this?
[04:35:13] Seems like the Israelis are actually quite happy with the rise of the AFC.
[04:35:17] The pro-Nashals of anti-Jihad revolution has arrived in Germany and not a second too
[04:35:21] early.
[04:35:22] I mean, yeah, Yishai Fleischer said that.
[04:35:31] It's really funny that this has been an ongoing problem with the anti-Semitism conference that
[04:35:46] they do in Israel.
[04:35:49] They keep inviting like front nationalists and AFD supporters and AFD members to the
[04:35:57] conference and half of them are like Holocaust deniers like open Holocaust
[04:36:01] deniers that have gotten in trouble is illegal in Europe and they still get
[04:36:05] invited to the fucking Israeli anti-Semitism conference and then there's
[04:36:10] drama in Israel over it because they're like well these guys are fucking
[04:36:13] Holocaust deniers if you want to understand yes it is the convergence of
[04:36:17] nationalist forces all around the world is a big tent big tent fascism
[04:36:27] AFD is pro landlord and pro employer, so it's similar to their very poor voting for MAGA here, buddy.
[04:36:36] It's also similar to the previous.
[04:36:39] Like, I think the closest comparison to what AFD is doing is not American MAGA.
[04:36:45] It's the last time Germany had a nationalist party.
[04:36:48] That's just verbatim the Nazi policy.
[04:36:52] It's also identical to the fascist policy with Mussolini.
[04:36:56] It's the strategy of building a broad tent, a broad coalition.
[04:37:08] They are identical to the Nazis.
[04:37:11] Their holocaust deniers, they're pro-Israel, but it doesn't matter to them because from
[04:37:16] their perspective it's like Israel is also fighting the Muslims, so that's good.
[04:37:20] And secondly, as long as Israel exists, the Jews don't come back here to Germany.
[04:37:24] That's their attitude.
[04:37:38] And it also works.
[04:37:41] It works in Israel's favor because Israel can then turn around on the one hand, support
[04:37:45] AFD covertly, sometimes overtly.
[04:37:51] And on the other hand, they can say, look, Jew Hatred is growing in Europe.
[04:37:58] This is why you have to either A, come and live in Israel, the only place that is safe
[04:38:03] for Jews, or B, support Israel even if you stay in the Western world.
[04:38:09] Support Israel unconditionally.
[04:38:12] Otherwise there will be no safe place left for Jews.
[04:38:15] Brian, I feel you, but your material announces that Germany is lacking. No, I talked about
[04:38:20] it extensively yesterday. The whole grievances towards West Germany, what West Germany did
[04:38:26] in the aftermath of the Berlin Wall falling, and how East Germany was basically gutted,
[04:38:33] destroyed, sold off to the highest bidder from West Germany. So there's this analog
[04:38:38] there. There's this grievance politics there as well. And in contemporary German politics,
[04:38:47] the death and destruction of industry is obviously significant, but then outside of that there's also
[04:38:53] the energy crisis being directly being directly blamed or the energy crisis that is seen as a
[04:39:03] a consequence of like Christian Democrat initiatives, posturing against Russia, cutting the energy
[04:39:12] supply off Russia in an effort to posture against Russia after Russia illegally invaded
[04:39:16] and occupied Ukraine. Then there's also the destruction of preexisting welfare programs,
[04:39:27] social safety nets, austerity at the behest of privatization, which creates a lot of volatility
[04:39:35] and a lot of anger, and then far-right elements like AFD will take that frustration and will
[04:39:41] refuse to identify that it's born out of austerity and privatization initiatives, and then
[04:39:47] will instead blame refugees. We'll say, oh, look, the reason why your buses aren't
[04:39:51] running on time, the reason why your metro station looks like shit is because there's
[04:39:56] Muslims in the country, and there's far too many of them in the country, and that's the
[04:40:01] reason why the government can't take care of you like they once did.
[04:40:14] Netanyahu next to Faray Rebs AFD was still excluded here, notably however, contacts have
[04:40:19] been permitted with the Freedom Party of Austria, whose founder Anton Reinthaler served as
[04:40:24] minister in Nazi Germany as an SS general.
[04:40:44] Cheat here has a good take on this as well.
[04:40:49] Off of Adam Tuz's take, reflecting on the political earthquake in Germany, the question
[04:40:52] of an alternative to the alternative.
[04:40:57] He wrote a newsletter on the AFD earthquake.
[04:41:02] Geet here says, one crucial takeaway is that AFD is harvesting anti-system rage, which
[04:41:07] means the establishment attempt to stigmatize them as a threat to fundamentally sound system
[04:41:11] is actually counterproductive.
[04:41:13] It only reinforces the AFD claim that the only choice is the far right or the
[04:41:16] failed system.
[04:41:17] The true challenge to AFD has to be from another anti-system party.
[04:41:23] This is damn near identical to the United States of America.
[04:41:27] The only difference of course is that right now the AFD equivalent MAGA is in charge.
[04:41:32] So they are seen correctly as the people safeguarding the current establishment, the
[04:41:39] current institutions even if they're breaking it piece by piece.
[04:41:44] And as the system collapses in front of her eyes, more and more Americans are frustrated
[04:41:49] with the actions of the Trump administration.
[04:41:52] But here's the thing.
[04:41:53] Here's the thing.
[04:41:56] Democrats do not have a viable alternative.
[04:41:58] They do not have a viable vision.
[04:42:00] The National Democratic Party does not have a viable vision for what they want to
[04:42:05] do.
[04:42:06] They have no vision for accountability against the Republican Party, and they certainly
[04:42:10] don't have a vision of how they will build.
[04:42:14] country if they win. This is a real issue. This is a real problem. That's why the left
[04:42:20] is actually gaining momentum. And that's also precisely the reason why these attacks against
[04:42:25] the left and these attacks against me are not actually working.
[04:42:31] Here's Adam Tuz's take. They raise them as unophobia if they are real, but they are
[04:42:35] all more powerful because they serve a kind of commitment device. People who act
[04:42:39] and speak in public is right wing extremists and are labeled as such, establish a claim
[04:42:42] authenticity. They establish an identity beyond the Berlin Republic mainstream and invite
[04:42:48] voters to join them. The AFD has worked assiduously to foster and build that community in the East
[04:42:53] German states. It is now approaching majoritarian status. The belief that the answer to such
[04:42:57] political project can lie, reinforcing, reforming and improving the mainstream through improved
[04:43:03] socioeconomic policies is, to say the least, a bold hypothesis. The more obvious conclusion
[04:43:09] is that to contest the political terrain with the AFD, if that is indeed something we want
[04:43:13] to do, we need to offer not more of the same just better, but an alternative to the alternative.
[04:43:19] An alternative to the alternative furthermore that can produce something more than just
[04:43:24] material benefits that can produce identity.
[04:43:32] One lies the ticket for victory.
[04:43:39] We're not just going to expand the social welfare state, but we are going to provide
[04:43:43] a separate vision and also a community on top of that.
[04:43:47] A community that identifies very specific goals and fights for them.
[04:43:53] This is what socialists can do here in the United States of America.
[04:43:57] with socialists have been doing here in the United States of America.
[04:44:04] The problem is though that European countries do have left populace alternative.
[04:44:07] The workers that center left lost the AFD aren't going left.
[04:44:11] It's not like the US where your only choice other than the far right is to do nothing
[04:44:14] Democrats.
[04:44:15] We have to figure out why the left is not picking up this anti-system vote and
[04:44:18] I haven't seen an adequate explanation as to why.
[04:44:21] I have the adequate explanation.
[04:44:23] The link is seen as basically more woke and more gay version of like the establishment.
[04:44:35] Oh wow, we got polymarket to delete the tweet.
[04:44:39] This one's even confusing me I'm not gonna lie I guess they're stress testing how much
[04:44:42] they can live up my positions on this website.
[04:44:55] Well, I'll take it. This is also true of Sumar, LFI and every other leftist party in Europe.
[04:45:07] I don't think it's necessarily true for LFI.
[04:45:12] But one reason for it is pretty simple.
[04:45:17] People have just become more racist.
[04:45:20] But yeah, LFI is way more successful than D-Linka.
[04:45:26] And I think it's because it has a socialist vision and it is also seen as anti-establishment.
[04:45:34] That's precisely the reason why it's being treated very differently than D-Linka.
[04:45:39] What was the poly market tweet they posted they said Hassan piker defends Lindsay Clancy
[04:45:51] Well, DSA watch did it and they continue to do it for some reason
[04:45:56] Hassan piker releases video defending Lindsay Clancy and then like poly market posts that as well
[04:46:02] And then I quote retweeted the poly market when I said this one is even confusing me
[04:46:05] I'm not gonna lie. I guess they're stress testing how much they can lie about my positions on this website
[04:46:09] And then they got 46k views, or 46k likes, and then they deleted it.
[04:46:31] Yeah, 91% of Saxony and Hall day if the voters cited immigration.
[04:46:39] So, yeah, it's affordability, but it's when concerns of affordability rise, the party
[04:46:50] that runs on the solution that is the easiest to identify with wins.
[04:47:00] Economically disadvantaged people that back the AFD and National Rally do not back
[04:47:03] like LFI or D-Linka. D-Linka is educated urbanites and nostalgic boomers. LFI is mostly immigrant
[04:47:09] communities and urban professionals. The poor and the disaffected vote far right. We need
[04:47:12] to find out why the left is not able to tap into this.
[04:47:16] I mean, I already explained it. It's simple. It's the most convincing argument. It's
[04:47:20] unbelievably convincing when you start seeing brown people and you think the country
[04:47:26] is not supposed to look that way. And someone tells you, oh, all of the things
[04:47:31] are not working anymore. It's shit. Why is it shit? Because brown people are here. And
[04:47:37] you go, okay, that makes like that makes that that that is a far more reasonable argument
[04:47:42] than what anyone else has offered so far. Yeah, it's it's racism. The reality is the
[04:47:55] The reality is, there's always going to be racist, okay?
[04:48:03] The reality is, there's always going to be racist motherfuckers out there.
[04:48:06] The point is, not everyone is racist.
[04:48:08] The point is, even racists want certain amenities, certain provisions, so we have to figure out
[04:48:15] what those provisions are, and we have to get them to vote for our candidates, vote
[04:48:20] for our policies, vote for our platform, and then slowly but surely work on their racism.
[04:48:26] Okay? The Democrats and liberals think the same way, by the way, they also think, well,
[04:48:33] there's far too many races, we need to win them over. But their argument is we should just become
[04:48:39] maybe the diet version of racism, and then we'll win them over. That's not the solution.
[04:48:44] The solution is not to try and compete with the true racists on racism Olympics, okay?
[04:48:56] Yeah, 94% of AFD voters in the exapols had too many foreigners are coming to Germany.
[04:49:05] The war in the Middle East is endangering our prosperity, security and Europe at risk.
[04:49:11] I can no longer maintain my standard of living was the third or the fourth most popular.
[04:49:18] Prices are rising so sharply.
[04:49:27] from the AFD event. Oh, is this the Sig Heiler? Yeah.
[04:49:40] And in an AFD event in Magdeburg, a young
[04:49:43] attendee raises his arm and an apparent
[04:49:44] nostril on a live stream for the interview
[04:49:46] Quickler warns him.
[04:49:57] It's not just the Dems.
[04:50:09] German Chancellor Merz seems about to make the mistake the other central leaders have made,
[04:50:15] defend off the far right, preemptively implementing their program does not diminish the need for
[04:50:18] them but legitimizes and reinforces them.
[04:50:21] Now I don't agree with Kenneth Larroth on much, but he's right about this.
[04:50:31] This is the Clinton strategy.
[04:50:51] The polls. What? 65% of voters who say their financial situation is bad post-election poll
[04:51:06] of voters voted for the AFD. 44% overall in the election. In street interviews, a lot
[04:51:12] of AFD supporters didn't believe when told what's an AFD selection program. Main Agiprop,
[04:51:16] party has done is really about GDR nostalgia. As I said yesterday, the fact that those low
[04:51:22] income voters do not engage with the program on the scale is insane and nearly impossible
[04:51:26] to counter on a debate stage.
[04:51:28] You have to sell another German dream of socialists. One of course, also the vast majority of people
[04:51:33] are living very role where they have the head insane numbers. I mean, this is literally
[04:51:37] the same exact fucking problem with Republicans. This is the same problem with Republicans.
[04:51:43] You ask any Republican about the actual platform or the actual impact of the policies that they
[04:51:51] are advocating for, that they think they want, they'll go, no, that's not real.
[04:51:54] I don't believe you.
[04:51:56] That's woke nonsense.
[04:51:58] You're doing woke nonsense.
[04:52:13] There's no Muslims in the area they are. Alex Weidl said there's 25 stabbings a day by Muslims in Germany. She's insane.
[04:52:34] What? So do we have to get dumber? No. You have to push for a simple message. You also
[04:52:49] have to attack. You also have to attack liberals. Liberalism is seen as safeguarding the institutions.
[04:52:56] The institutions have failed. People fucking hate liberals for that reason. You have to
[04:53:00] be expressly anti liberal. Okay, look at this. Kyle. Kyle. Oh, you can't really see from
[04:53:09] this angle. Hello. Hello.
[04:54:09] What political party does Kaia support in Germany?
[04:54:25] She doesn't support any political parties in Germany.
[04:54:28] He's a revolutionary communist.
[04:54:41] He's a commie.
[04:54:42] He doesn't believe in bourgeois electoral democracy.
[04:54:45] He's a left comm.
[04:54:48] He says participating in the parliamentary process is for the fucking birds, especially
[04:54:56] in the absence of a viable communist alternative. It's time to arm the proletariat. That's what
[04:55:05] she said and she's leaving now after saying that it's crazy. She said it's time to arm
[04:55:11] the revolutionary masses that the revolutionaries have. The revolutionaries understand what
[04:55:18] must be done. Yeah, she calls me a neoliberal sheepdog all the time. She calls me a liberal
[04:55:31] sign is pervert. Give her a mic, she's just drinking water. She doesn't talk much, but
[04:55:51] when she does, it's all, we're done with entryism. We say no more to the bourgeois
[04:55:59] system. Workers will never be liberated through electoral democracy. She thinks that we need
[04:56:11] a well-educated professional doctrinaire Marxist class that will lead the proletariat
[04:56:22] and unlock its revolutionary potential. I'm always like, what do you mean by that? What does
[04:56:27] that even mean? Yeah. That's what she says. Yeah, dog Trinair. That's why I actually
[04:56:39] like Kaiba Naa, so obviously that's crazy.
[04:56:57] She is disappointed in me.
[04:57:04] Her dogma could be a little rough.
[04:57:09] Cultural position to German history.
[04:57:12] They are revisionist in towards history.
[04:57:17] They were not here including, including.
[04:57:22] They are not neo-conservative.
[04:57:25] and then they have positions on family life, they have positions on cultural life
[04:57:32] that are not compatible with a liberal society.
[04:57:35] I say this as a conservative. I see myself as a conservative.
[04:57:39] In Berlin the past is always looking over your shoulder.
[04:57:43] The city is dotted with cautionary memorials and reminders of trauma.
[04:57:47] The Soviet War Memorial, the Holocaust Memorial,
[04:57:51] remnants of the Berlin Wall, masking what used to be the Gestapo headquarters,
[04:57:55] the ruin of the Anhalter Station, destroyed by Allied bombs.
[04:57:59] And then there are these very personal memorials, or Störpersteine, stumbling stones,
[04:58:04] because you stumble across them as you walk into your house, commemorating the Jews who
[04:58:08] were dragged out of their homes and sent to the concentration camps.
[04:58:13] Elza and Ursula Lindner in 1942 killed in Auschwitz.
[04:58:18] The AFD is insulted by any comparisons with the Nazis, but then there's this campaign anthem.
[04:58:26] Yeah, five would you call us Nazis? You know what it reminds me of? It reminds me of that,
[04:58:35] that, that, that classic comedy skit of the Nazis in Nazi Germany being like,
[04:58:44] Are you calling me a Nazi?
[04:58:46] How dare you excuse me?
[04:58:53] Not the are we the baddies?
[04:58:54] No, it's the I forget what who made this skit.
[04:58:59] Oh, so everyone's a Nazi.
[04:59:02] It's in German.
[04:59:04] Is this the one?
[04:59:05] Did you find it?
[04:59:06] No, you didn't.
[04:59:07] That's just your own TikTok.
[04:59:09] OK, what is it?
[04:59:11] Yeah, this classic.
[04:59:14] ...
[04:59:16] Classic Nazi.
[04:59:44] But I'm not right. And I'm not a Nazi.
[04:59:48] Hey, you there? Do I look like a Nazi?
[04:59:53] No, I wouldn't say so.
[04:59:55] Then you see. But that's probably also a Nazi for you.
[05:00:00] Nazis, Nazis, Nazis.
[05:00:02] Louder Nazis. If one of the arguments goes wrong,
[05:00:05] then one quickly gets the good old Nazis out of it.
[05:00:10] It has nothing to do with Nazis.
[05:00:12] How can life be so easy?
[05:00:14] Only because someone doesn't share the mainstream opinion is he a Nazi.
[05:00:19] But being a Nazi is a long mainstream. Your national socialist has been on the power.
[05:00:23] Oh yes, I forgot. In your world, everyone is Nazis.
[05:00:27] The leader is probably...
[05:00:42] call us a holocaust denier come on it's a dark period of German history we
[05:00:47] gotta move on from it
[05:01:12] Only good skit browser ballet has done their hardcore pro Israel. I mean that's not surprising. I know
[05:01:22] They are German after all
[05:01:26] Yeah, look at this one look at this one
[05:01:29] I saw this I saw this fucking thumbnail and immediately
[05:01:34] It bricked my brain
[05:01:37] Hope to schreit im Nazi Schope
[05:01:42] No, this is what the AFD is doing.
[05:01:47] And over here is Mr. Hilda.
[05:01:51] Good afternoon.
[05:01:55] Danny, a little excursion, are we, Mr. Hilda?
[05:01:57] Yeah, yeah, we make a little...
[05:02:00] How's this full price of a vehicle?
[05:02:02] Hike.
[05:02:03] Hiking?
[05:02:04] We make a little hike for Pideford.
[05:02:06] Oh, well, you'll be wanting the A39, then.
[05:02:08] Oh, no, no, you've got the wrong map there.
[05:02:11] This is Stalingrad. You won't yield for common possible section.
[05:02:15] Ah! I'm not original!
[05:02:18] You'll have to solve that here, you silly odd-leg, before we get English personal.
[05:02:22] Sorry, my furor, I did not...
[05:02:25] My, uh, my dicky old chump.
[05:02:27] Lucky Mr. Johnson pointed that out, eh?
[05:02:30] You wouldn't have had much fun in Stalingrad, would you?
[05:02:33] I've said you wouldn't have had much fun in Stalingrad, would you?
[05:02:38] Not much fun in standing here at home.
[05:02:41] No, I'm sorry. I didn't introduce you. This is Ron.
[05:02:43] Ron Ribbentrop?
[05:02:45] Oh, not Von Ribbentrop, I...
[05:02:47] Nein! Nein, nein, nein!
[05:02:49] Oh, no, he's a different other chap.
[05:02:51] No, I, in Somerset, am being born.
[05:02:53] Von Ribbentrop is born in Godoramas,
[05:02:55] class of 46, Düsseldorf, Westgate.
[05:02:57] So they say!
[05:02:59] This is the quiet one, Mr. Bimla.
[05:03:02] How do you do that, Squire?
[05:03:04] Also, I'm not minding that,
[05:03:06] but linkage house was given back to but feels bad John Cleese ruined his legacy
[05:03:13] by being a horrible human when he got older
[05:03:19] meanwhile Republicans are doing this hey mark great to see you yeah I caught
[05:03:25] the show this morning all right thanks yeah we're sit she's not on a thing but
[05:03:30] she thought it would be great for us to check in I'm Simon my big fan thank
[05:03:34] Thank you. Thanks.
[05:03:36] This was directly tailored off of Tucker Carlson by the way.
[05:03:39] And tells me you want full colonoscopy.
[05:03:41] Oh, dude, no, no.
[05:03:43] We both know, I think, how dumb these things are.
[05:03:45] You know how it is. It's just due diligence with all the turbulence.
[05:03:48] And can I just need to check a few boxes?
[05:03:51] Sure, sure.
[05:03:52] Thank you for the show, Faith.
[05:03:54] No, no, no problem.
[05:03:56] Okay, right.
[05:03:58] Okay, so this is embarrassing,
[05:04:00] but just for the record and just so we have it,
[05:04:03] Um, you are not and have never been a member of the Nazi party of the United States, have you?
[05:04:11] Come on, tell me, seriously?
[05:04:14] Nope.
[05:04:15] Thank you.
[05:04:16] Sorry to have to even ask.
[05:04:18] Uh, buh-buh-buh-buh-buh, and, oh yes, the Hitler dog thing.
[05:04:22] Okay, the dog thing is bullshit.
[05:04:23] Great, great, I thought so.
[05:04:24] Different spelling.
[05:04:27] Okay, different spelling?
[05:04:28] Yeah.
[05:04:28] And this other one that came up just to fend this off, have you ever read Mein Kampf?
[05:04:36] Yeah, a couple times, I guess.
[05:04:41] Couple times?
[05:04:42] Well, there are Easter eggs in there.
[05:04:44] You didn't get the first time.
[05:04:46] Look, I'm just interested in that period of history, so I'm okay.
[05:04:51] Skimmed it.
[05:04:52] Skimmed.
[05:04:53] Yeah.
[05:04:54] Thank you.
[05:04:55] Specifically, do you find interesting about that period of history the scale the
[05:05:02] Tragedy hell yeah. Yeah, which tragedies specifically Europe decimated
[05:05:10] 7 million Germans 20 million Russians 5 million Poles
[05:05:17] Yeah, just just checking the till here mark and it seems you're short a few million
[05:05:25] I
[05:05:35] Inside look at Mike Rogers and Mike Collins campaign office. Yeah, this is why satire fascism doesn't work
[05:05:41] You can see stuff like that from or hammer 40k new space uniform drawn directly from the galactic Empire
[05:05:47] They don't see the rate ridicule the role models that emulate
[05:05:50] Oh, yeah, the new Space Force uniform and then they turn around and go um, actually you're stupid
[05:05:55] It's not the Nazi uniform. It's the uniform from like, you know insert whatever fucking
[05:06:02] Insert whatever
[05:06:04] Movie that directly was making a Nazi Nazi analogy
[05:06:11] Like yeah, dude, it's not from Star Wars dumbass, where do you think Star Wars got the design from they got it from the fucking Nazis
[05:06:18] Hey happy house war
[05:06:20] What the f**k?
[05:06:21] What?
[05:06:22] Hitler Mustache.
[05:06:23] What?
[05:06:24] No, no, no, no.
[05:06:25] No, this is Charlie Chaplin Mustache.
[05:06:28] You know Charlie Chaplin, right?
[05:06:29] Yeah.
[05:06:30] What?
[05:06:31] Come on, man.
[05:06:32] Hitler on the pressure gets to have this Mustache.
[05:06:33] Yeah, I guess Michael Jordan had one too for a little bit.
[05:06:36] Exactly.
[05:06:37] Exactly, right?
[05:06:38] This is my boat, bro.
[05:06:39] When did you get a German Shepherd?
[05:06:41] What, Adolf Hitler?
[05:06:43] What?
[05:06:44] No.
[05:06:45] No.
[05:06:46] Not Adolf Hitler, okay?
[05:06:48] They ate off Marx, harpo.
[05:06:50] I love the Marx brothers.
[05:06:52] Why are you busting my chops?
[05:06:53] You know this.
[05:06:54] What?
[05:06:55] You know what?
[05:06:55] You need to relax and take it easy, okay?
[05:06:58] I'll show you the kitchen.
[05:07:00] Kitchen's amazing, man.
[05:07:01] The best part about this house is
[05:07:02] I got this thing for like $20,000.
[05:07:04] Oh, no!
[05:07:07] What?
[05:07:07] The swastika?
[05:07:08] Yeah, the swastika.
[05:07:10] This is a vintage comedy prop.
[05:07:12] Nope.
[05:07:14] Heh.
[05:07:18] Many such cases. Yeah, this was the U.S. Department of Education deleting a video that unintentionally
[05:07:31] appeared to compare Trump to Hitler. Officials said a staffer used a trending darkest hour
[05:07:35] clip without understanding its historical context. Yeah, just shocking. Here it is.
[05:07:44] Trump's biggest benefactor, Elon Musk, is a eugenicist in white supremacist sports Germany's AFD, which promotes neo-Nazi ideologies.
[05:07:51] The State Department hires Nazi enthusiast, Nate Hochman, as the Trump administration unveils Nazi uniforms to the Space Force.
[05:08:14] Yeah, this is the kind of design costumes owners make to tell you who are the bad guys
[05:08:20] in a space movie.
[05:08:27] I just, I mean, eventually, eventually they're going to keep pressing and pressing and pressing
[05:08:31] like these guys are doing and one day they're not going to feel the need to hide it anymore.
[05:08:37] They're going to be like, what's so bad?
[05:08:40] Okay.
[05:08:41] Here's the thing.
[05:08:42] Eventually, they're gonna move on to the next phase in this process where they say what's so bad about the Nazis anyway?
[05:08:48] After all the communists and the socialists are the real problem, and you know who fought against them valiantly
[05:08:55] That's right the Nazis did
[05:09:01] Straight up
[05:09:04] We are not a communist nation we are not a socialist nation we will never be a socialist nation
[05:09:09] obviously, you know, we would much rather we would much rather lean in one direction over the other
[05:09:26] Yeah, this was Nate Hockman Nate Hockman was fired from the dissents campaign in 2023 after promoting a video with the Sonon rod a
[05:09:34] Nazi symbol embraced by white supremacists
[05:09:36] He was hired this year to Rubio State Department as deputy director of policy planning and chief speech writer
[05:09:44] Like they are on the one hand
[05:09:48] On the one hand they are not hiding
[05:09:53] Their ambitions they're they're openly signaling
[05:09:56] I'm sure the condemnation piker crowd will be just as mad at the federal government has become a make-work program or neo-nazis
[05:10:02] But of course not of course not because they understand that all the fucking grippers are working as
[05:10:08] Staffors for every single Republican
[05:10:11] Okay
[05:10:17] These guys and the liberals
[05:10:20] Not the liberal voters necessarily is the liberal voters hate this shit right the liberal voters hate this shit
[05:10:26] But the opposition party the liberal Democrats they don't
[05:10:32] Even if they have a distaste for it, they would much rather align and normalize this kind of behavior coming from the Republicans
[05:10:40] then allow for the left to win.
[05:10:45] Oh, this was awesome. Yeah. All right. Anyway, we're not going to do that right now.
[05:10:54] Liberals would much rather, liberals would much like rather allow the Nazis to win.
[05:11:02] Then lean into their left
[05:11:16] Bros it lather fuck okay liberals lather. Yeah, they lather the Nazis with praise
[05:11:22] They shower them with praise and they lather them in oil
[05:11:28] So they can fucking suck the Nazis
[05:11:32] Okay.
[05:11:33] It's true, and they're doing it right now, and they're doing it in broad daylight.
[05:11:47] What is this?
[05:11:48] Progressives are fuming that House Democrats campaign armors refuse to publicly promote
[05:11:51] left wing Democrat Will Lawrence roughly a month after we won a nasty three-way primary
[05:11:55] there.
[05:11:56] At issue, the DCCC has so far declined to add Lawrence to a coveted list of their
[05:12:00] Priority House candidates in part out of DEFRA's leaders the Congressional Black Caucus, multiple
[05:12:05] people involved in the discussions about the issue told CNN.
[05:12:09] Oh
[05:12:11] of
[05:12:40] Oh, the point that he made, yes.
[05:12:47] Yeah, oh, also, yeah, to prevent fascist from getting ground, we will be the fascist.
[05:12:55] Germany's ruling CDU is preparing tougher citizenship rules to counter the rising AFD.
[05:13:00] The proposals include ending dual citizenship, stricter German language requirements, full
[05:13:04] financial independence and stronger requirements to reject anti-semitism.
[05:13:12] Dog, the AFD is not building its ranks from newcomers, okay?
[05:13:20] I know, he's not.
[05:13:27] Europe popped with a nasty message.
[05:13:31] And this is who they want to send back.
[05:13:35] Some of the 14 million foreigners living in neighborhoods like Neukone, including 7 million Muslims,
[05:13:41] many of whom have German passports, but potentially face re-migration or deportation
[05:13:48] under an AFD government.
[05:13:50] Karsten, German-born, German passport, Lebanese parents, anesthetist by profession.
[05:13:57] I think it's really disappointing for us people who were born here and were raised up here
[05:14:03] and who identify with these democratic...
[05:14:09] Yeah, Merz is going to come in and be like, say, M is real high right now
[05:14:14] or else we're taking away your passport, we're doing re-migration.
[05:14:17] The circumstances that we live in.
[05:14:19] So if they ever came to power in Berlin, the AFG, would you be afraid that they might want to kick you out?
[05:14:26] It might be a case, but I think the people who live here in Berlin are much more clever than that.
[05:14:35] Facing the flag today, Chancellor Mertz, leader of the once great but now imploding Christian Democrats.
[05:14:41] He ruled out a deal with the AFD, but he hinted at another possible measure, supporting a
[05:14:47] ban of the party if it oversteps constitutional red lines.
[05:14:52] We dare you, would be the AFD's response in victory.
[05:14:57] We are now too big to ban.
[05:15:02] The AFD in Saxony and our husband labelled an extremist organisation by Germany's
[05:15:07] by Germany's constitutional watchdog, something which the party rejects as an establishment
[05:15:12] witch hunt. Well, earlier I caught up briefly with the
[05:15:15] jubilant Alice Weidel, the co-chair of the AFT at their victory party. She also leads
[05:15:20] the party in the Bundestag. What does this mean for Germany's future?
[05:15:25] Alice Weidel, I think it's a future. We are already 10% in the Bundesweit before
[05:15:33] The CDU, the CDU is no longer a Volkspartei, we are a Volkspartei and my clear goal for the alternative for Germany is as quickly as possible the 40% of the federal government.
[05:15:47] One of the funniest things about Alice Weidl is literally that she is a lesbian who's married to a brown immigrant.
[05:15:56] Okay? She is a lesbian who is anti-immigration but has an immigrant wife. She's anti-LGBT but is a lesbian herself.
[05:16:10] She opposes LGBT adoption but has adopted two children. She's of course a German ultra-nationalist but also spends most of her time living in Switzerland.
[05:16:25] with Sirlin. This is what the new, the neo fascist movement is all about. Nick Fuentes.
[05:16:35] Nick Fuentes spends most of his output complaining about Hispanic migration. Nick Fuentes is
[05:16:44] that is Mexican. Nick Fuentes is Mexican himself. Okay. That's just how it is. That's just
[05:16:52] how it is nowadays. These guys are doing DEI fascism. Okay. It makes no sense. Nick Fuentes
[05:17:02] is also anti LGBT, although he is gay himself. For these guys, it's a it's an honest expression
[05:17:13] of violence and honest expression of fascism. That's all that matters. They can also lean
[05:17:20] into it too. They can lean into their identity. Alice Weidl is a lesbian married to an immigrant
[05:17:25] who took out the children globally. Fascism is taking on a multicultural hue, a melting
[05:17:30] pot of hate. Always makes me think about that old post on here. Racists really don't
[05:17:33] care if you black or brown, white, gay, etc. So long as you racist. Yep.
[05:17:40] Not really interested in the hypocrisy, the whole thing that's been explored and
[05:17:42] beat to death. The most interesting thing in my opinion is that fascism has always
[05:17:45] kind of been this way. It's not really new. If you sing the right tune and
[05:17:47] dance the right dance you can, you too can hold the whip. That is the saddest and most
[05:17:52] depressing part about it all at least to me. Some people after a lifetime of being beat
[05:17:56] down don't want to be free, they want their chance to be the boot and hold the baton.
[05:18:12] If she hates her wife she can divorce her, don't punish immigrants, dog. I don't think she hates her
[05:18:17] wife. I think she doesn't care about this at all. It's the same reason why Clarence Thomas
[05:18:24] was talking about potentially advancing an anti-miscegenation decision in the Supreme
[05:18:29] Court. Clarence Thomas is black, his wife is white. He has done miscegenation. These
[05:18:35] guys are cynical operators, they do not care. Okay? They're opportunists, they're
[05:18:42] cynical operators. They don't care. They don't give a shit.
[05:18:51] The best Alice Weidle quote I've ever heard is her saying, I'm not
[05:18:54] queer. I'm just married to a woman.
[05:19:07] I will never understand what is so fascinating about fascism for
[05:19:11] all these fucking losers, especially ones that don't even fit in the master race dynamic.
[05:19:18] I don't get it. I don't even understand what the fuck these guys who fit in the master
[05:19:23] race dynamic supposedly like about this. But I guess it's just power. It's just
[05:19:29] power. It's an expression of power. It's purging the enemies, purging the weak, whatever.
[05:19:35] That's all it is.
[05:19:36] And if you become the next Chancellor, what does that mean for Germany's relationship with the rest of the European Union?
[05:19:46] What does it mean for your relationship with Britain? What does it mean for the world between Ukraine and Russia?
[05:19:52] What does it mean for Germany's relationship with the rest of the European Union?
[05:19:57] What does it mean for your relationship with Britain?
[05:20:00] What does it mean for the world between Ukraine and Russia?
[05:20:22] The representatives flew to Moscow. They are staying in Moscow with Putin.
[05:20:27] They are staying in Kiev with the Ukrainian representatives.
[05:20:31] This is how the policy of balance works.
[05:20:34] This role would have been very good for Germany as an honest neutral marketer to go into negotiations.
[05:20:42] This government has played this role.
[05:20:45] With an AFD government it will look very different.
[05:20:48] We will sit on a policy of equality, and then we will sit on the table.
[05:20:54] And we will strive for a very good relationship with the US, but also with Russia, at the same time.
[05:21:01] And with all European neighbors.
[05:21:08] We want a peace treaty as soon as possible and an end to the terrible war.
[05:21:18] Oh, yeah, the the woke king of Israel, dude, Oh, everything is getting worse.
[05:21:35] Everything is getting worse.
[05:21:38] Meanwhile, the only thing that motherfuckers in position is positions of power care about
[05:21:47] That is like appeasement to the fucking neo-fascists, appeasement to the neo-Nazis and attacking their
[05:21:53] left flank.
[05:21:54] We are so cooked.
[05:21:55] There's a general election in Israel next month.
[05:21:57] Eisenhower insists he is the chance for change.
[05:22:07] His speech was about returning Khan.
[05:22:09] He said his Yashar party, which he founded only a year ago, would restore security and
[05:22:14] statesmanship and unite Israel.
[05:22:16] Well this speech has gone down very well here, of course it has, these eyes have got supported,
[05:22:22] but across the country he is getting more and more support.
[05:22:27] So much so that the cut makers now have that man down as favor with Israel's next prime minister.
[05:22:34] In their way is this man, Netanyahu, who has spent nearly 19 years as Israel's
[05:22:40] prime minister.
[05:22:41] He's a master of winning elections.
[05:22:43] Let's hope the US goes left cuz look we doing World War two again with a roll shuffle debate
[05:22:48] Yeah, I see this I see this going down dangerous path
[05:22:53] where
[05:22:54] Unless the United States goes left and like creates an anti-fascist cooperative force with like China or something and then the
[05:23:02] Weirdly enough the Axis powers that we fucking tuned up as
[05:23:06] As our vassal states from Japan to Italy to Germany, they all go neo-Nazi in the process. We secure victory. And then we stamp out the fascist growth in the middle.
[05:23:24] Last time it was an allegiance with the USSR. This time it was with China. Just kidding. China is going to be trade maxing with everybody.
[05:23:35] World War II but no domestic industry law, we're gonna be the Manchuria of the new war.
[05:23:45] Yeah, really weird how a Frankenstein's master of Socialism, Theocracy and Racial Nationalism
[05:23:53] has become a symbol of classical liberal identity.
[05:23:57] Yeah.
[05:23:58] Reject tyranny, vote for Mike Rogers.
[05:24:02] like how are you putting this through? Oh my God. It's just very, very strange.
[05:24:26] I mean, yeah, I don't know why Israel is like the, I don't know why Israel is the, the, the beacon of classical liberalism.
[05:24:38] Like, I don't know why so many liberals look at this objectively illiberal state and go, that's our shit.
[05:24:45] Like we need to be more like Israel.
[05:24:49] It's so, it's so weird.
[05:24:51] It's like pathological.
[05:24:53] I guess it's Islamophobia. That's what it is, right? Like the motivating principle here must be Islamophobia, right?
[05:25:23] This is the time we're going back to World War II Axis shit. Yeah, I saw that already
[05:25:39] The GOP secret weapon
[05:25:43] Republicans are deploying their secret weapon mega activist Scott Pressler in a text to help push Republicans over the edge in the US Senate race
[05:25:50] I love Scott Pressler
[05:25:53] Yes, queen. Get it.
[05:26:01] This is unironically what Scott Pressley looks like, by the way. Beautiful head of hair.
[05:26:09] What's the term?
[05:26:12] It's a term for this. I don't want to be insensitive. There's an egg, right?
[05:26:19] Like this isn't like the uninitiated looks at this person and says that's a gay man that's not that's not a gay man
[05:26:40] Not a gay man
[05:26:42] He's trying to boy mode bro China boy mode and failing
[05:26:55] Scott is on her own journey. Yes
[05:27:03] Bro said a isn't that the right term?
[05:27:05] Yeah, no, I was saying this is put me down.
[05:27:29] You should not know these terms while I do.
[05:27:34] egg is cracking? Yes. Imagine how many times someone has asked what are your pronouns? No,
[05:27:45] that's why she only goes to deep red states. So no one asks her what her pronouns are.
[05:27:50] Okay. No one asks those questions. They're like, that's it. That's a weird boy. That's
[05:27:56] a boy nonetheless, but a weird one. I don't get it. He's got
[05:28:05] you plus Scott in one kind of woke environment immediately.
[05:28:10] They're going to be like, well, I don't want to be rude.
[05:28:26] Why does she look curcify?
[05:28:33] Stop it.
[05:28:37] By the way, egg is the perfect descriptor for Scott Pressler, okay?
[05:28:58] I clocked her shit.
[05:29:00] I'm sorry.
[05:29:02] I think it's...
[05:29:03] But his message to the Israeli voters is not about fighting, it's about trust.
[05:29:17] He thinks that after years of volatility and turbulence, people will turn to him as a
[05:29:24] man who makes sensible decisions and puts the country first.
[05:29:29] His nominee for parliament, a range of age and experience, half his candidates are women.
[05:29:35] People, we need trust right now. We need someone who can see and think that he will save us.
[05:29:41] We need someone like him. And we truly can trust his presence.
[05:29:45] We have got two amazing military successes, but we have yet to translate those.
[05:29:50] It's just sustainable, simple.
[05:29:52] This is the woke opposition.
[05:29:56] Oh, man, Israel is so fucked, dude.
[05:29:59] It is so Israel is so fucked.
[05:30:02] Israel is so fucking cooked.
[05:30:04] Yeah, I saw this is not just the West Bank settlers is
[05:30:28] Israel. New York Times op-ed beast mode kind of fucked that everybody yelled at me. And
[05:30:37] then now people are, you know, three years into it and they're like, okay, maybe it's
[05:30:42] the entirety of Israel actually. But it's also about who gets to write it, you know,
[05:30:48] Who gets to say this?
[05:30:54] Right but too early, right but too early every single time.
[05:30:58] From a lady living in Tel Aviv.
[05:31:00] Yeah, no, that's why I'm saying she gets to say it because she's Jewish and in Tel Aviv.
[05:31:06] It's still not allowed for a dude named Hassan living in the United States of America to
[05:31:10] say it.
[05:31:18] flourish or the fame of Netanyahu. Eisencott is a clear contrast and some people like the
[05:31:24] idea of change. Enough, enough, enough is enough. You don't like Netanyahu. I want something
[05:31:32] new. And Eisencott, he will be the prime minister. This felt like the start of the election campaign,
[05:31:42] a battle between a prime minister who has so often beaten the odds and this political
[05:31:47] insurgent.
[05:31:48] Adam Parsons, go in years, Rosh Hashim.
[05:31:51] It's not his new idea, he started to attack the Palestinian state.
[05:31:57] I will attack the Palestinian state.
[05:32:01] What?
[05:32:02] That's crazy, bro, I need you to remember, this has always been the policy, but it
[05:32:12] It was never this open, right?
[05:32:14] It was never this open, like they, like even Benjamin Netanyahu at a certain point would
[05:32:20] have at least shied away from openly saying the quiet part out loud, like 20 years ago.
[05:32:26] It's super over, they don't see any need to lie about it.
[05:32:31] They think they could just like lean into, they think they can lean into like October
[05:32:35] 7 to justify the statement, right?
[05:32:41] be like, oh well October 7th happened so obviously we can't let it, we can't let the Palestinian
[05:32:45] statehood be established like obviously.
[05:32:48] I said it in many different ways from the world. I didn't say that development is two
[05:32:54] different states.
[05:32:55] Yeah, Zionism has evolved into its final stage, Kahanism, and therefore even the
[05:33:03] liberal Zionists are doing their very best, Meyer-Kahan interpretation.
[05:33:10] Let's go to Netanyahu, who is back in the last 13 years, in the last 4-5 years.
[05:33:15] I am a member of the organization that created the goal of a peaceful now, and it has two countries.
[05:33:22] It is not realistic, it cannot start a strategy, and it is all about the State of Israel.
[05:33:26] A big point of the ritual I wanted to do.
[05:33:29] Oh, speaking of wish, my goat, Mack Lamour.
[05:33:33] I
[05:33:38] Was it why did they have a party system if they all say the same shit are you talking about Israel or America?
[05:33:45] Good take
[05:33:48] Just got back from American doctor in the theater was packed saw you in the movie for about five seconds
[05:33:52] The best five seconds of the movie me and Ben Rhodes back to back
[05:33:57] Ben Hamas Rhodes
[05:34:03] Here's the ADL statement on Maglemor.
[05:34:10] Ed Sheeran fans came for a concert, not a performative, biased and hateful anti-Israel
[05:34:15] activism from his opener, Maglemor.
[05:34:17] Imagine being a Jewish or Israeli fan who came with family or friends to see the show, only
[05:34:22] to be confronted with his hostility from the stage, or feeling so unwelcome by the
[05:34:26] opening act that you leave early.
[05:34:28] This isn't new for Maglemor.
[05:34:29] He has a record of demonizing Israel and Israelis falsely accusing Israel of genocide and engaging in anti-Semitic rhetoric and behavior.
[05:34:35] This is completely unacceptable.
[05:34:39] The ADO's solitary statement after the Nazis won state elections in Germany for the first time since the Holocaust.
[05:34:46] This is true.
[05:34:48] I
[05:34:58] If a handful of Zionist law place got offended by Macklemore saying Palestinian children shouldn't be murder who gives a shit let them stew in their fragility
[05:35:04] I agree. So Macklemore been trying to figure out a way to say this all day
[05:35:09] One of the reasons why I wanted to come on this tour was because I wanted to stand up here on
[05:35:15] on stages and stadiums across America and say two words that are very near and dear to my heart
[05:35:24] free Palestine. Wow not a lot of booze in the crowd interesting pink literally lost her mind
[05:35:35] look at her Instagram stories I know I saw yeah W.H. Sheeran by the way and W. Macklemore as
[05:35:43] always that's my goat I should have him on the stream honestly I'm a DM right now
[05:35:50] I'll be like Mac Daddy it's time
[05:36:13] I
[05:36:16] Said free Palestine
[05:36:23] I want those words to be loud and clear
[05:36:26] So the people from Gaza all the way to the occupied West Bank know that we have not forgotten them
[05:36:35] After people shit on pink she turned into the Joker. Yeah, I know
[05:36:39] I know.
[05:36:40] This is Pink's response and it's going to everyone call her out for her support of Israel.
[05:36:44] She is not real Pink.
[05:36:45] Probably thinking she's so cool right now.
[05:36:46] This is embarrassing.
[05:36:47] Being liked by everyone is a clown's job.
[05:36:52] Sometimes I like to think I'm a pretty chill person.
[05:36:54] Somebody calls Prosecco Champagne and I remember exactly who I am.
[05:37:00] I'm not for everyone and honestly that has saved me a lot of time.
[05:37:05] What do you mean?
[05:37:06] Probably what I fucking said.
[05:37:08] I'm very popular with people who have never met me.
[05:37:12] Don't let idiots ruin your...
[05:37:13] Dude, this is literally the greatest expression of a millennial losing their fuckin' minds, okay?
[05:37:22] This is how a millennial loses their minds for all the younger folk in the chat.
[05:37:28] This is peak millennial posting, okay?
[05:37:31] Letting these like cringe-ass Instagram infographics say what you mean.
[05:37:38] Millennial the Gen X, Gen Xers do this too. Older millennials and Gen Xers.
[05:37:49] If they want, if they want to paint you as the villain then play.
[05:37:56] If my honesty offends you, imagine how much I can't stand your bullshit.
[05:38:00] I don't just say wild things on social media, in real life I say them with eye contact.
[05:38:04] This was her first share. Yeah, pink reshare pro-israel groups post demanding maglamore apologize
[05:38:12] for his free palestine message and denying that Israel's committing a genocide from stop
[05:38:17] anti-semitism. She's so awesome. I don't know what it is, man. I don't know what the
[05:38:26] fuck it is. But Ethan Klein wasn't alone in this. There is just something that happens
[05:38:33] when you're fucking pro-Israel in an environment where you grew up in where everyone else was
[05:38:39] pro-Israel or at least didn't know anything about Israel, right? So then, now, the environment
[05:38:45] is very different. The social environment is very different where people are just like,
[05:38:50] oh, you fuck with Israel, gross. And they can't just be like normal about it. They
[05:38:55] can't just turn around and say like, okay, she's already been replaced with a much
[05:39:00] better pink yeah true as an artist we have a responsibility to use our platforms neutrality
[05:39:06] or silence shouldn't be an option give Palestine your voice and when your voice I was supposed
[05:39:11] to be at this but unfortunately I couldn't I was flying around hang your flags wear your kaffir
[05:39:18] show them we are here this was done this was put together by Mustafa Mustafa the poet
[05:39:23] But yeah, it's just like you can't just be like normal about it.
[05:39:32] You can't you can't like when you see when you see what's happening you have to say something
[05:39:36] right like you're like oh my god I'm gonna post the appropriate amount of insane cringe
[05:39:42] fail post until people around me actually realize that I was right all along and then everyone
[05:39:48] Everyone will love Israel once again.
[05:39:54] So funny.
[05:39:57] Yeah, everybody turns into Amy Schumer.
[05:40:02] Everybody turns into Deborah Messing.
[05:40:04] Everybody turns into Ethan Klein.
[05:40:06] There is no, like, chill way of going about this.
[05:40:13] And this next song was inspired by the bravery of Columbia University students who led an
[05:40:25] encampment movement that mobilized the entire world, opened up parts myself included.
[05:40:32] So thank you to those students that risked their diplomas, that risked their tuition,
[05:40:36] that risked their-
[05:40:37] That's crazy to see a stadium where the normies go to fucking inch here and constant
[05:40:39] here and clap at the phrase free palace line.
[05:40:41] Five years ago I would have told you you were completely insane.
[05:40:43] We've come so far, you'd have so much further to go, yeah.
[05:40:46] There are scholarships that stood up and said no.
[05:40:49] CUAD students, students for justice and Palestine and Jewish voices for peace.
[05:40:55] Thank you guys to all of my Jewish brothers and sisters.
[05:41:00] Criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you.
[05:41:11] My message is for peace, love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect,
[05:41:19] and equality.
[05:41:21] So I say free Palestine.
[05:41:23] I say free Lebanon.
[05:41:25] I say free Cuba.
[05:41:26] I say free Congo, free Sudan, free all people in America living in fear over this terrorist
[05:41:34] organization ICE.
[05:41:37] I never switched up on Magamor and the image dragons the image dragons the dragons of image
[05:41:54] Dude, that's that's my goat man. I can't believe I switched up for sure. I'm a fun of them
[05:42:01] Fucked up of me. I was wrong. I admit it openly. I
[05:42:05] I made it openly do when I was in third grade. I also thought I was gay, you know what I'm saying like
[05:42:13] That's brilliant bars
[05:42:17] As someone who got dropped or forced to split from the same talent by management and even my lawyer at the time
[05:42:22] This is absolutely happening and there is slash was a lingering professional consequence for saying free Palestine with your whole chest too soon
[05:42:28] Yeah, Susan Sarandon says she still had movies taken away recently over Palestine support
[05:42:32] There are agencies that are telling people not to hire me. Oh 100%
[05:42:35] 100% is still very much, I mean guys, I think we know it's still definitely happening.
[05:42:46] Look at the media coverage around me for example.
[05:42:51] There's still an active attempt to punish whoever these guys can punish.
[05:42:59] Look at what happened with Mark Ruffalo.
[05:43:03] and then of course fox news all rapper about maglamore getting a lot of backlash who's doing
[05:43:19] the backlash old man just a handful of institution a handful of organizations the institution
[05:43:26] crying to an increasingly tiny fucking audience. What is this? Oh, we got a new Trump alert.
[05:43:36] New Trump alert. Oil prices will drop precipitously. Like everything else is dropping, but more
[05:43:43] when we win the Iran war, $3 a gallon, but ultimately below $2 a gallon, it will all
[05:43:48] happen quickly and Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, MAGA. Yeah, when you say
[05:43:52] this you do acknowledge one that oil prices are high two it's because the war
[05:43:56] with Iran and three the war has not ended and for the US is not one yet
[05:44:02] still losing buddy is still fucking losing to a concert last night at MetLife
[05:44:11] Stadium in New Jersey and got a heated lecture instead rapper Macklemore went
[05:44:16] into a strong anti-Israel rant it put off a lot of fans and now there are
[05:44:21] calls to remove him from singer Ed Sheeran's tour. CB Copy has that story. CB.
[05:44:27] Hey, John. So global pop superstar Ed Sheeran now facing back.
[05:44:31] They're not going to stop by the way 100%. They'll try to like hit the, um,
[05:44:36] they'll try to hit all of the big organizations that sponsor these
[05:44:42] concerts. They'll try to, like they are not going to,
[05:44:45] they're going to continue pulling on whatever thread they can.
[05:44:49] just so you understand. It's not the end of the story.
[05:44:55] It's not the end of the story. ADL and all these other advocacy organizations will go to like
[05:45:02] every single concert hall that's up next on the tour.
[05:45:14] First, I'll start hitting Macklemore about like shit he said, shit he hasn't said in
[05:45:22] the past, shit he's done in the past.
[05:45:29] Right?
[05:45:30] Clash, after one of his opening acts, used the stage time to make a pro-Palestinian political
[05:45:38] statement.
[05:45:39] The controversy happened during Sheeran's tour stop at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey
[05:45:43] this past Friday, which included opening act Macklemore. According to concert goers, the
[05:45:48] rapper wore a Palestinian kafia scarf and made calls to quote free Palestine while accusing
[05:45:53] Israel of committing genocide in Gaza. Macklemore also performed his song Heinz Hall, a reference
[05:45:59] to the anti-Israel protests that swept university campuses back in 2024, and one Jewish father
[05:46:05] who was with.
[05:46:06] All careers stolen from black labor. All right, we're not doing that right now. Okay, we're not doing that right now
[05:46:10] This is not the time and place time and place time and place time and place time and place
[05:46:16] Okay, this is a pro Macklemore institution. This is a pro Macklemore
[05:46:23] Broadcast, okay
[05:46:25] This is it's time for us to offer critical support to Macklemore. I already said when I was in third grade
[05:46:33] I thought I was gay and I love popping tags
[05:46:36] Okay, and if you don't you are no friend to the Hassanabi broadcasts. Do you understand?
[05:46:44] Do you understand?
[05:46:47] Really some of y'all motherfuckers see a guy getting ass-blasted for saying exactly what you believe saying the truth and
[05:46:55] Immediately go well now is my time to actually hit him. It's like
[05:46:59] is there ever is
[05:47:01] Is there ever a moment when you guys go it when when when these institutions are like Macklemore is Hamas actually we should kill him
[05:47:08] Is there a moment where you go? You know what maybe this isn't the right time to just like also join it on the fucking pile on
[05:47:16] No, no
[05:47:19] Not even
[05:47:23] No, I'm gonna play fucking thrift shop over and over again if you keep doing this
[05:47:31] How much money do you have in your pocket? $20, dude.
[05:47:37] I'm gonna pop some fucking tags.
[05:47:40] I had brought them to an Ed Sheeran concert not to have an opening act lecture then about
[05:48:03] Middle East politics.
[05:48:04] You have a lot of Jewish fans who love your music, buy your albums, and merchandise and
[05:48:09] bring their kids to your concerts tonight you lost four of them and I suspect
[05:48:14] plenty more and now the Israeli-American Council has also started a petition John
[05:48:19] calling for Sharon to drop Macklemore from the remainder of his tour the
[05:48:23] petition said it's not about whether Macklemore has the right to hold his
[05:48:27] views but instead quote where the line should be minus four okay well he won
[05:48:35] he won the entire Hassan Abbey community today okay except for that
[05:48:38] one guy was like Macklemore like thought to make a like a reasonable critique just at the very the
[05:48:45] least reasonable hour okay never that one guy so minus five but plus 24,000 how about that
[05:48:52] The ADL abandoned their boy to go after Waghlamour.
[05:49:10] What is this?
[05:49:11] A swastika in an American arena in 2026, a massive nazi flag unfurled during Jewish
[05:49:16] fighter Ben Azulay's match in Orlando. This is America, not Nazi Germany. Anti-Semitism
[05:49:21] must never become normal. The ADL is too busy yelling about Maglemore to care about this,
[05:49:28] by the way. Yeah. The ADL is like, okay, whatever. The AFT just won. We're not, we're not fighting
[05:49:38] Nazis. We're fighting anti-Zionists. Okay. Get with the fucking program.
[05:49:42] drawn when an opening act uses a global concert platform to advance a one-sided political agenda,
[05:49:49] end quote. Macklemore has been known for using his lyrics and platform to express his beliefs.
[05:49:55] Also in 2024, he was captured on stage during a benefit concert for Palestinians saying this
[05:50:02] about the country.
[05:50:02] So we have reached out to both Sheeran and Macklemore's team requesting a comment, but
[05:50:16] I've not heard back.
[05:50:17] John.
[05:50:18] All right, CB Cotton, thank you CB.
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[05:50:30] So this morning, Gordon calls for Ed Sheeran to toss Macklemore from his tour.
[05:50:35] Smack in the face!
[05:50:38] After the rapper used his opening act for an anti-Israel rant.
[05:50:43] And this is not the first time Macklemore, who often rages against Israel and America
[05:50:49] from the stage.
[05:50:51] Um, you have to f**k America.
[05:50:57] Jewish dad who was at the concert posting on X Saturday, I had bought my dad.
[05:51:01] I liked it. That's all it takes, by the way. One Jewish dad.
[05:51:08] Like they couldn't find more than one guy
[05:51:12] who probably has four very embarrassed daughters right now.
[05:51:16] That's that's it. That's what it takes.
[05:51:22] It reminds me, it reminds me of the same
[05:51:24] Um, uh, the, the, the article that I had open that I haven't read yet,
[05:51:29] Jewish voters have long back Democrats, key midterm racer, testing that support.
[05:51:33] And they found one Jewish guy in Texas to be like, you know,
[05:51:37] Talarico is far too critical of Israel for me. It's like,
[05:51:40] who's writing these articles?
[05:51:45] What do you mean?
[05:51:48] What, what do you mean? We, we found one Jewish guy in Texas
[05:51:51] who's going to vote for Ken Paxett over James Talarico.
[05:51:53] Like, who gives a fuck?
[05:51:58] Like, what are you talking about?
[05:51:59] One, one 41 year old Jewish dad in Texas.
[05:52:05] And then also, same with this.
[05:52:06] Mayors are on mom Donnie says he will attend your
[05:52:08] season, 9 11 and remember ceremony Friday despite
[05:52:10] mounting criticism from some famous victims and several
[05:52:12] prominent Republicans who have called on him to stay away.
[05:52:16] Note which sums get the drive coverage and self-deputized
[05:52:19] spokespeople for tens of thousands of people in which
[05:52:21] don't.
[05:52:23] I guess when all the polls are contradicting your narrative, you have to rely on some guy. Yeah, literally
[05:52:39] When they went when look if all else fails you go to the institutions, right? You go to like the American Israel committee or whatever
[05:52:49] Okay, you go to it's not a moment. It's a movement hashtag jigs it
[05:52:53] No, but it's like if you can't if you can't if the polls don't actually go along with like the narrative that you're trying to present that like
[05:53:11] Jewish voters are very frustrated with the Democrats or whatever
[05:53:14] Then you go to the institutions
[05:53:17] You go to the organizations you go to like the american-israel committee or you go to like
[05:53:21] like the American Jewish committee, something like that.
[05:53:24] There's a million of them, right?
[05:53:26] And then if you can't get them, your last ditch effort is,
[05:53:31] the ADL will always deliver a statement,
[05:53:34] a scathing response, but that's not enough.
[05:53:38] So then you have to go and find like one guy in the crowd
[05:53:41] who's like, I'm Jewish and I really hated this.
[05:53:44] And then you drive discourse around this one guy.
[05:53:47] It's fucking ridiculous, man.
[05:53:51] It's ridiculous. And it only propagandizes to the large share of Americans who are resentful of Israel,
[05:54:03] this false narrative that like Jewish people really love Israel, it seems, and they're really, really
[05:54:08] upset, and they want to fire and cancel people over insufficient support. That's not the case,
[05:54:13] all right? That's not the case. This is not the attitude at all. Most Jewish people
[05:54:18] Do not give a fuck about this stuff. They themselves also, especially young American Jews,
[05:54:24] are not fond of Israel themselves. So all the media is doing is basically presenting this
[05:54:31] totally false, totally fabricated narrative.
[05:54:34] It's here in concert not to have an open act lecture them about Middle East politics.
[05:54:40] I left Friday hoping maybe his, uh, this had caught you and your team off guard.
[05:54:46] Then tonight you allowed it to happen again Friday may have been Macklemore.
[05:54:52] Wait, this guy went to two nights.
[05:54:56] This guy's like, I'm watching a close full, I'm watching all of the edge here.
[05:55:00] I'm a Ed Sheeran Maglemore super fan and I thought maybe the first night it was
[05:55:05] a mistake and I went back the second night and he's just getting psychic
[05:55:10] damage every night that he goes to the show.
[05:55:12] I was like, no, not again.
[05:55:16] It's funnier.
[05:55:20] Bothered ex to husband technology addict Ed Sheeran.
[05:55:24] I brought my wife and two dollars of MetLife Friday because we're huge
[05:55:27] fans of yours. We arrived early.
[05:55:28] I spent $180 on two sweatshirts for them, watched the first two opening acts were having
[05:55:32] a great time.
[05:55:33] Then, Macklemore decided to turn your concert into his political rally.
[05:55:39] When he started chanting Free Palestine and pushing his clearly uneducated version of
[05:55:42] the Israel-Gaza conflict, my daughters looked at me completely confused.
[05:55:46] I had brought them to an Ed Sheeran concert, not to have an opening act lecture them
[05:55:51] about Middle East politics.
[05:55:53] After Friday night, I started looking into Macklemore's history.
[05:55:56] I found, including his repeated use of anti-semitic tropes made the whole thing even worse.
[05:56:02] So I took my family and walked inside alongside hundreds of your other fans as we were walking
[05:56:07] in, even the MetLife security guards were rolling their eyes at what was happening
[05:56:11] on stage.
[05:56:14] And then they all clapped.
[05:56:19] We waited until Maglamore was finished before returning to our seats.
[05:56:22] Then we watched your show, which was phenomenal.
[05:56:26] I left Friday hoping maybe this had caught you and your team off guard.
[05:56:29] Then tonight you allowed it to happen again.
[05:56:32] You knew exactly what Macklemore had done the night before and you gave him the stage again.
[05:56:37] Friday might have been Macklemore's decision.
[05:56:39] Saturday was yours.
[05:56:41] You have a lot of Jewish fans who love your music, buy your albums,
[05:56:44] immergenize and bring kids to your concerts tonight.
[05:56:47] You lost four of them and I suspect plenty more.
[05:56:56] haha
[05:57:00] This is so fucking funny
[05:57:02] I love the fact that everyone's freaking out because they think Ed Sheeran didn't sign up on this like do these idiots really think that one he
[05:57:08] Didn't know Macklemore's recent output into Macklemore didn't check with Ed Sheeran before playing Hins Hall and putting scenes from Gaza on
[05:57:15] Stream get fucking real Jesus Christ. Yeah. No, no, he was like he was like Macklemore the perfidious Macklemore
[05:57:21] He he snuck all of that in
[05:57:26] He snuck that in and then I went the next night to check again
[05:57:32] This guy is like he can't
[05:57:35] He can't he can't get enough he's like I love Ed Sheeran I went back the second night
[05:57:46] With my family they were crying oh
[05:57:53] Jesus Christ
[05:57:56] Oh, I love this. I love shape of you, but this disgusted me. I didn't love the shape of this. The shape was anti-semitism.
[05:58:10] Oh, it's awesome.
[05:58:12] That's awesome.
[05:58:14] Maglamore groomed Ed Sheeran with his beliefs.
[05:58:29] It's just this might be more his speed.
[05:58:31] Oh yeah.
[05:58:32] For all of the recent anti-fans of Ed Sheeran and Maglamore, here's a musical number
[05:58:41] that you might appreciate.
[05:59:11] They call this love, and they are looking for a way
[05:59:19] There is no way
[05:59:21] Okay, a lot of people are saying stop my ears stop my ears. Okay. Okay. Okay here. How about this? How about this?
[05:59:32] We have to give
[05:59:35] The anti-fans something we have to give the new haters
[05:59:39] There's something that you want, you know?
[05:59:41] I say genocide, I say war
[05:59:46] When you're tired, it's what the army's for
[05:59:52] Does it get ugly?
[05:59:56] You bet it does
[05:59:59] When I know you wanna kill
[06:00:03] This will stop if we reach level 100, not level 5
[06:00:06] Every last one of us if we don't get the level 10 high ten, I'm gonna keep playing this on repeat
[06:00:23] That's such a weird thing to sing about like that's such a strange thing to sing about man
[06:00:30] That's weird. You're the fucking weirdo. You're so weird. Oh
[06:00:34] Oh my god. I have a better song than this.
[06:00:43] No.
[06:00:44] Oops, sorry.
[06:00:45] for the crime of dancing you condemn the Jews with selective memory musicians holding
[06:00:56] Thanks you Ariadne, GWT.
[06:01:12] You fucking loser.
[06:01:14] And there will be no war But if you're ever confused
[06:01:21] Hey what the fuck this guy actually unfollowed Wait what the fuck Wait never mind he didn't
[06:01:32] actually unfollowed I don't know why it looked like you did
[06:01:41] It doesn't show that you're following on here. Wait, what? No, I'm not.
[06:01:45] Amy Goodman's peace sign. Thank you for the 50 bones.
[06:02:00] I don't know why they always show boy George dancing like this.
[06:02:04] When he says, trust me, we will dance again. Like, does he think he looks cool?
[06:02:08] Like when they filmed it, I think this is AI too. I'm pretty sure but
[06:02:14] When they filmed this did they did they did boy George thing like oh, I look fucking so sick when I'm doing this thing
[06:02:38] I just need to behave like a human
[06:02:45] I am from Israel and this is my art
[06:02:49] That's right
[06:02:52] We stand with Israel
[06:02:57] But, Maglemaw, you are the beach
[06:03:02] You are promise
[06:03:05] We will win your vision once again.
[06:03:30] I just need to behave like a human
[06:03:33] You say that you're a human
[06:03:36] I'm a warrior
[06:03:40] Who's coming to kill you
[06:04:00] really music industry play here this band which currently has an ACL festival slot and a billboard
[06:04:08] hot 100 hit of one single song they have uploaded to streaming i'm sorry who is getting this much
[06:04:16] industry play of one single song their only song they have on streaming platforms on top of that
[06:04:23] the track is garbage and sounds like it was probably me okay i gotta listen to the song what
[06:04:27] What is it, Tempur City?
[06:04:37] Holy fuck, they're playing all over Austin, dude.
[06:04:40] Is really alternative rock band?
[06:04:45] Is the song self-aware or?
[06:05:04] They tried to make it viral for TikTok and real audio.
[06:05:07] Just walk with no fire, no silence if there's no sound
[06:05:12] One way or another, you're going to put me out
[06:05:18] Drinks flowing like water, too drunk to turn off the light
[06:05:24] Stay under the covers, who knows how we're letting them out
[06:05:30] Just don't let your hopes on me
[06:05:33] I wanna feel something
[06:05:36] God you look so pretty
[06:05:38] When you tell me that you love me
[06:05:42] I always did I could lie
[06:06:00] Shit, okay, number one number two the drop area
[06:06:05] Like as soon as you as soon as you look at like the drop you're like, oh, I see what they try to do 100%
[06:06:11] Computer, make Israeli alt-j.
[06:06:39] Some millennial and only this is death metal with this fucking garbage. I mean it's just it's it's it's it's bubblegum shit
[06:06:50] Yeah, Jane remover left the festival lineup
[06:06:56] Because of get the IDF bit off the line lineup or I'm not playing
[06:07:07] Beast mode
[06:07:09] Do you see of Puff Co is awesome? I be head. What's Puff Co? I
[06:07:17] Don't know what Puff Co is
[06:07:22] The best dab rigs in tools store online I
[06:07:27] Fucking love dabbing dude
[06:07:30] Hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I
[06:07:34] I fucking love Apen dude. Hell yeah.
[06:07:41] Isn't Jane Remover Turkish by the way?
[06:07:57] It's not, not no memes like, actually, Jame remover, I'm pretty sure is Turkish.
[06:08:14] No, she's trans.
[06:08:16] Yeah, you can be both.
[06:08:27] hit the don't have that break no she's from Jersey
[06:08:39] Turkey Cypriot and Polish and from New Jersey that part is crazy I didn't know that that's
[06:08:52] crazy. What the fuck is me in a different life? How is that possible? How is that possible?
[06:09:05] The Fox's Tik Tok posts you in the comments are all on your side.
[06:09:10] Oh, hell yeah, I love when that shit happens. Every Democrat should be critical to me.
[06:09:16] me, I would make sure that every Democrat was very critical of Israel and, and wanted
[06:09:22] to hold Israel accountable, not just Trump accountable, but Israel accountable, uh, and,
[06:09:27] and, uh, stop spending so much money on endless militarism overseas, endless middle militarism
[06:09:33] in the Middle East.
[06:09:34] Um, that would be my dream, but right now, um, I'm a very pragmatic person.
[06:09:39] We're not living in that reality.
[06:09:40] If it were up to me, I thank you, Fox news.
[06:09:44] it repost. Yeah, it's just so funny that Fox News is like, wow, this this disgusting socialist
[06:09:54] America hater wants all of our tax dollars to be spent here in the United States of America.
[06:10:01] We of course are the America first movement. And what that means is no more tax dollars
[06:10:08] to Israel, please.
[06:10:14] Why is this even controversial?
[06:10:15] The Republicans shouldn't care about Israel either.
[06:10:17] Why are we supposed to hate this guy?
[06:10:18] Let's spend money here at home.
[06:10:19] Why are we sending him to Israel?
[06:10:23] He sounds like he's very America-first and a real patriot.
[06:10:29] I agree with Hassan Piker and I'm a Democrat.
[06:10:33] Sounds like he wants what the Republicans want.
[06:10:37] Very simple, he's on the terrorist side.
[06:11:00] I didn't know Jane Remover was also from New Jersey, that kinda fucked me up, I'm not
[06:11:04] gonna lie.
[06:11:06] Not only are they, not only are they, uh, Turkish, but also from New Jersey, it's crazy.
[06:11:17] Turks love New Jersey.
[06:11:18] Yeah, I don't know what the fuck that's about, honestly.
[06:11:22] Now, I mean, it sounds like a total Oliver tree ripoff if he lost his sense of humor
[06:11:32] completely totally ransom vibes that to his
[06:12:02] you
[06:12:32] Hello.
[06:12:58] Oh, did I?
[06:13:02] Did I save it at all, I don't know, did I save it?
[06:13:10] Oh, fuck me, god damn it dude, once again, holy shit.
[06:13:18] Did it completely die or did it die a little bit, I don't even know.
[06:13:24] my computer completely crashed again.
[06:13:30] Not sure why this is happening.
[06:13:32] We haven't been able to figure it out.
[06:13:35] But I guess that's a good place to end it regardless
[06:13:38] because holy fuck dude, I am,
[06:13:44] I don't know what the fuck is going on.
[06:13:46] I can't stand this shit.
[06:13:51] Half day, Hossie, man, shut up.
[06:13:53] What do you mean?
[06:13:54] already died. We lost half the fucking audience. They'd left when it f'd. So it's over anyway.
[06:14:02] Yeah, this is just how it is nowadays. Everything is busted. Everything is broken. My internet
[06:14:13] is butt cheeks. And there's no solution to it whatsoever. I fucking hate it. And I
[06:14:23] never be able to fix it it seems no matter what i'm just permanently going to be i'm uh i'm permanently
[06:14:33] going to have these issues you know it's great i love it uh fucking awful it's awful
[06:14:45] anyway love you guys see you tomorrow peace
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