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So I'm Lina De Wieta and I have two very interesting guests here.
On one hand we have Peter Mertens who is the General Secretary of the PVDA, Workers' Party
of Belgium.
Also Arthur, you just wrote a very interesting book, The Last Days of the Old Normal, which
is going to be published in English as well, I heard.
And on the other hand Hassan Piker, who is political commentator, Twitch streamer, and
also one of the favorite targets of Donald Trump himself.
And since recently, also our defense minister, Theo Franken, well, I must say he gave us at
least a little bit of publicity because we are sold out.
Thank you, Theo Franken, for that.
Well, yeah, give him an applause, people.
So welcome everybody to the conversation Theo Franken wanted to ban.
Hassan, how does it feel to be in Belgium after everything that happened?
Very excited to be here.
I'm glad that at a time of unprecedented crisis, as liberalism is failing and as many countries,
including the United Kingdom, has taken the initiative to engage in political repression
and basically criminalized dissent, sometimes against the UK, but also criminalized dissent
against Israel.
I'm glad that Belgium did not lean into that same illiberal tendency and try to stop me
from entering the country.
Well, somebody at least tried.
Did it do something with you?
How did you react?
What did you think about it?
Well, there was a brief moment of worry, I will admit, because like I said, I've already
had this experience with the UK.
So I reached out to some folks and they assured me that only a couple of weeks prior that
same party had invited the Taliban to Belgium. So, you know, I felt as though it would be
ridiculous if I would get hit with a counterterrorism charge and be denied entry into the country
when that very same right-wing party had invited the Taliban.
Absolutely. I think you're totally right. But we can laugh about it. I mean, about the
Frank and doing this Peter you sometimes call him mini-trump, which is quite a good thing
I think but what's what's behind behind it? Why does the of franken do it? Why did he attack us?
Why did they attack us some what?
What is it? I think behind all this is also there's some kind of fear because you saw the Palestine movement in Europe
They try to repress it. They try to repress it in France
very aggressively, they tried to repress it in Germany, in Berlin, very aggressively,
they tried to criminalize also in the UK, Palestine action, the activists are in jail,
and still the movement kept growing, not only amongst young people, not only in people's
quarters, but the majority of the people in the Netherlands, in Belgium, in France, they
are behind Palestine, the idea of Palestine, and that is changing.
And so I think there's a certain fear that is deep, deep solidarity with the global South,
that it's growing and that there's consciousness that is growing, that we are living in one
system and the aggression against Palestine with the weapons of Germany, with the weapons
of the UK, we live all in the same system.
And I think Theo Franken and his bunch, like Trump, they know that if this consciousness
is growing, they have a problem, and now they are trying to repress, and it's vicious,
it's vicious and it's dangerous, let me clear, but I really don't think at the end they will
succeed because they have only this repression, we have a people's power, the freedom mind
of the people, and at the end it's much more stronger than their repression I think.
to repression, you sometimes talk about Trumpism. Can you explain a bit what it is and also
how you see it in the United States? I think many people know Trump. They kind of know
what's happening, but not everything about it.
Yeah, look, Trumpism is the logical conclusion of reactionary politics in America. A lot of
people in America initially thought when Trump won the first time around that this was unique,
This was unprecedented.
It was an aberration that must be excised and then we can get back to business as usual
politics.
But Trump's second term victory and the consequences, the catastrophic consequences of Trump's
second term have shown that Trumpism or the modern manifestation of fascism is here to
stay in America.
That is, of course, unless we fight back and successfully defeat these fascist forces.
I don't think a lot of people recognize how permanent this politics will be if we don't
actively combat against it and combat against it with socialism.
If it's socialism or barbarism, Trumpism represents barbarism, we have to represent
the forces of socialism, which will be the only resilient way to successfully eradicate
this dangerous and violent and odious ideology.
Some people still, I think, in Europe think that they can push past this if they keep
their head down.
Like when Mark Rota calls Trump daddy, I don't think he is genuinely sexually interested
in Donald Trump.
I think he's just saying that because he thinks, oh, if I appease his interests and
if I reduce my, if I debase myself, then Trump will eventually go away.
I don't think Trump is going away, and I don't think Trumpism is going away.
So we have to fight back against it.
Peter, people sometimes say that Trump is crazy, and then, well, maybe Theo Franckin
is also crazy, but there's more to it than just two crazy guys.
What's the logic behind it?
Yeah, I think, oh, I do agree with Hasan when also in Belgium, we thought maybe Trump
One was one exception and then back to normality, but of course it was not like that.
And I think the US as a leading empire since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991,
I just said it is the end of history, the US will control the world.
The unilateral moment is there forever. That was the discourse.
And now they are challenged by China, they are challenged by some rise of
republics in the global south, the global economy, the point of the economy will go
to Asia. That's a fact. You can have emotions about that fact, but the fact is the center
of the economy in the 21st century will be mostly in Asia. And I think that's the United
States, even Obama, so that the people to Asia, then Biden, then Trump, et cetera. And
I think that's behind that. It's the beginning of a relative decline, beginning. I must say
because the dominance of the US is still very, very great on military level, but also politically
ideological level. We had to talk about how come that here in Belgium and in Europe, the
trans-Atlantism, the love for Trump, to say we will support Trump, whatever he does, is
that big, that's a crazy thing. But I think behind all the things that are passing, it's
beginning of decline and then it will be a vicious phase.
The beginning of the decline is a vicious bloody phase already happening in the Congo,
already happening in Palestine, already happening when they kidnap presidents and in the life
of the presidents and they say international law we don't care, Marco Rubio comes to Munich
and Marco Rubio says in Munich, okay, Europe must be colonized again, the world between
1492, Columbus and the colonization of the US, the slave trade, et cetera, until 1960s
decolonization.
You literally said that, and that's barbarism, I do agree.
Let's answer barbarism with a systemic answer and not with some details and that socialism.
And the effects of that decline are also visible in their, well, they're visible in their international
politics, but also in their politics inside the country.
I don't think that there's a wall between the aggression outside and aggression inside.
I think in my book it will be published.
One point there was a Quantico, it was Hexhead, pre-Texas, the minister of war in the US.
He called 800 generals for the first time in Quantico, and he had a speech before this,
800 generals, and he says, okay, we must leave international law behind.
And that was the beginning of torpedoing and bombarding both the fishes both in Venezuela.
We don't care about international law of law.
But we also have to be more aggressive, he said, in the same speech, inside in the blue
cities, in the democratic cities.
So I think aggression outside and aggression inside are two sides of the same coin of a
force of a regime that is in the beginning of prom.
If that regime would not be in problem, it wouldn't need this kind of violence and aggression.
No, they are in problem somewhere and they need aggression outside and inside at the
same time, I think.
And we also have a finite amount of productive resources and productive output.
So if all of our productive output is going towards senseless militarism overseas, an industry
of death and destruction, then we're not spending the money, the taxable revenue, and also our
productive forces on fixing problems at the domestic level.
So it's virtually impossible to separate foreign policy from domestic policy, albeit the American
government, my government, and my media apparatus has done so very successfully for the last
couple of decades, especially during the global war on terror.
by and large find themselves to be ironically a peaceful nation. They don't want war. If
you ask an average American, most of them will tell you, oh, I don't want to go to war.
Why are we doing this? But they don't even recognize that we have been in a permanent
state of war for the entire history of the country, with the exception of a handful of
years. And that is by design. That we have so successfully been able to separate the
two and I think post October 7th that calculation changed quite a bit and now
more and more Americans at least in my experience as an anti-imperialist I'm
seeing more and more Americans recognize the reality that this permanent
state of war is directly tied to the deterioration of material conditions
back at home. And you think that's why Trump is acting so harshly on social
movements like criminalizing it and like for example ICE has got something to do
with that?
I think it plays somewhat of a role in this, absolutely.
I think Trump wants to criminalize all political descent because he is a fascist of the traditional
variety and he understands that the initiatives that they're engaging in in this government
are deeply unpopular.
He ran on and won on fixing the affordability crisis.
Things are more expensive than ever before.
He ran on being the peace president, which was laughable.
started more wars than ever before. And there's also a negative consequence that people can
associate with our actions in Iran specifically. Gas prices are now going up. It's about $5
a gallon for America that's unfathomable. And people are very frustrated. So what do
you do? You either respond to the public pressure and you change course and admit that we lost
against the middle power
that is now on its way to becoming a global power iran
uh... or
or we just continue this uh... war of attrition
and the side that's actually a treating uh... it's resources exhausting its
resources
is not iran it's actually the united states of america
uh... destroying its force projection capabilities
and and uh... defeating the idea of american military primacy
it's dying in the straight of our most
when there's more dissent that bruise and more discontent
that happens as a consequence of of you know high gas prices
well there's only one other option
turning the the imperial boomerang inward
uh... fascism being colonialism turned inward
and and uh...
treat the domestic population as we have treated
nations in the periphery
this entire time
i do agree i i
also think that
because
i'm going to give an example that there's the same to your franken as for
the minister of defense
our friends eight two years ago i i i write in the book
he said
we must be inspired by the social model in the u.s.
he really said it and so we said what social model there is not even medicare
for all that is there is no social security for you know who i'll set that
back in the day a historic figure Adolf Hitler said that he said the same thing
okay okay your inspirational figures he did he saw the he saw the the treatment
of the indigenous population in Jim Crow South and he was like this is a
process of segregation that we can apply in Germany yeah and I think he said
because he want to prepare the population in Europe to do a little bit
the same like in the US he said we invested too much in social security in
Europe, literally he said, and we need to have more investments in military hands, the
language is shaker investments here and so he wants to destroy social security, he wants
to destroy public housing, public health care systems, he's rather open in the goal and
he wants the transfer of all this money to the war machine and that's going on, this
theft. He's announcing the biggest theft in the history of Europe to destroy all
what we built with the working class movement in Europe and to give that money
to the military like in the US he says etc. And they know there will be
revolts. Now for the first time in Holland it was quite for a long time now
I think after 2030 years there are strikes in the docks of Rotterdam. There
There are strikes in the public sector in Holland, there are strikes in the docks of
Ember, in Bremen, they know there will be strikes and so they are preparing, the E.P.
Empty-free pression against these movements, that's also authoritarianism and the pressions.
They know that it will not be popular and so let's prepare and prepare to win, not to
kneel.
Absolutely and the good thing about Theo Franken, that's true, is that he's really open, he
just says what he thinks actually.
Trump as well. Yeah, it's true. They are both very open that well that helps in a way
Well, you talked about well, he talked about the anti-terrorism law
Maybe because I think not many people know what he's actually meaning
I think these concepts this first of all not about the legal thing, but about conceptual thing
I've kind of a problem like
Like what we've seen in the last three years, the genocide and the state repression, I never
thought I was able to see that three years in a row, armed by Germany, armed by the US,
armed by the UK, via the harbors of Belgium, and the people doing Israel maxing, the people
minimizing the genocide, the people saying we must go again in Congo, in the Sahel, doing
neo-colonism, that Theo Franka, he said it, these kind of people supporting the violence
of the system, the terrorism of the system, they are going to write laws against terrorism.
If they should be consequence, the first victims of these laws will be Theo Franka and Donald
Trump, of course, and Netanyahu.
But we all know they use it against those who are in resistance against this violence.
And so it's an ideological question.
It's not a juridical question. First of all, it's an ideological question, but they want
to musulate the resistance. That's the goal of the law.
Absolutely. And they try to use things as saying that you are anti-Semite, for example.
Maybe, well, you've repeatedly reacted that that's not true, but maybe for this audience,
you can say why it's so wrong to call you an anti-Semite.
i am an anti-fascist
i am a socialist
i am an anti-imperialist
and i oppose and combat bigotry is of all sorts including anti-semitism
including but not limited to anti-semitism
uh... so
i find it
repugnant
uh... that uh... someone like the o franken
who very clearly is a bigot
uh... would try to uh...
to to use this charge against someone like myself
when i probably have a longer track record fighting against anti-semitism
then he does
so
uh... i mean it's classic uh... anyone who opposes israel is immediately
branded an anti-semite
it's uh... not only a false inflation but it's also a dangerous conflation
it ends up
uh... forcibly merging
these uh... to different concepts together
zionism and judyism
and this of course
for men's and creates more anti-semitism
and makes jews less safe
this is something that uh... even zionist themselves at times acknowledged
including
uh... people who have
in the united states of america attacked me for saying exactly those words
uh... uh... in the past
uh... they themselves have repeated a new batches repeated to benjamin and
yahoo said your actions have made jews less safe
uh... this is an established practice an unfortunate
and established fact.
So I find it really distasteful and also dangerous
when people consistently try to merge these two concepts
and conflate these two concepts with one another.
Absolutely.
Peter, you live in Antwerp.
There's many Jews there.
There's also Jews who are propolis, Palestine, of course.
How do you see that?
I fully agree.
I think people don't know the history neither.
I like in Ceres to Russia, there was anti-Semitism.
There were tattaks, the black hundreds,
they were persecuting Jews, et cetera.
There was a large Jewish community in Russia, workers.
They created a union, the Bunds.
And they went in strike against Tarristic Russia,
who supported the Bunds.
It was Lenin, it was the Bolsheviks, against anti-Semitism.
Then in the Second World War, in Belgium,
who protected, among others, the Jews in Belgium.
It was a Communist Party.
It was a resistance movement, hiding Jews.
Who was collaborating with the anti-Semites,
the Flemish nationalists, Bob Maas, for example,
a collaborator, a fascist during World War II.
You know what did Theo Franke three years ago?
On the anniversary, I think the 75th anniversary
of the collaborator, Bob Maas, the anti-Semitic Bob Maas,
at the jew-hating bob mass during the war
he went to his university uh... anniversary tale franken now giving
lessons on anti-semite it is crazy let's go back in history
the jewish people part of the working class everywhere prosecuted
they were treated inside and they were welcome inside the working class they
are still welcome
we are against anti-semitism since uh... the beginning since the beginning
they use things like this of course like you
both said because they're also afraid they want to have an explanation why it's possible
to criminalize people who actually did nothing wrong and are actually saying the right things.
But maybe about that movement because in the United States and also in Belgium there is
actually quite a large movement who attacks right.
I mean I think you both spoke about socialism as the answer about coming up for our rights
but what is actually happening right now because a lot is happening in the realm of American
socialism which is something that I never thought I would be saying in the last 10 years if someone
were to tell me hey there are going to be open democratic socialists that are winning elections
in the American Democratic Party primaries I would laugh and yet that is now the reality. Now
We have the momentum on our side, we have a lot of dynamism, there is a tremendous amount
of excitement, the people have a real hunger for change, and socialists represent that
change in America.
And it turns out a lot of self-identifying liberals, a lot of Democratic Party voters,
well, it turns out they really like Democratic socialism.
uh... i think the numbers
uh... as of late have have reached a fifty nine percent of democrats i'll
identify as democratic socialist these
changes are obviously rapid
not to say that these are doctor near marxists or anything like that there's
still a lot more political education
uh... that that uh... we must push for
uh... having said that
the goal is very simple
uh... americans have
uh... tremendous insecurity or rather enmity towards their government
they do not believe in their government this is
in the case since the reaganite
now neoliberal reforms took place in the country
that gutted the labor unions further
that destroyed the regulatory agencies destroyed welfare bill clinton played a
role in that as well as the
liberal democratic party
uh... equivalent
americans do not trust their government anymore so our goal is is two-fold on the
one hand we must rebuild confidence in good governance
and we must do so with the socialist uh... moniker
uh... we must not shy away from
uh... this ideology and we must associate democratic socialism socialism
with good governance and that's precisely what people like zoram and onnie
are are doing right now
and doing very successfully
this of course is
created a lot of anger and resentment
from servants of capital both in the democratic party
and certainly in the republican party as well
and even
uh... the corporate media apparatus
spends a good deal of time talking about me now in american discourse
at a time of unprecedented crisis for some reason
people about the movements uh... in the united states because you were there
but also in belgium
no like i said i i i really think because there is a
grant theft that's been announced
there will be movements some people think
people will be asleep in europe
it is not. There are already more movements than we think. They are not in the media.
They are not in the mainstream media. But there are movements and it will grow. I have
no doubt about it because people, they will resist. They will try to go and strive for
a better life. That's human nature as such also. So these movements, they will grow.
The question is, in which direction can we push these movements? Because there is an
anger and there is a fear towards traditional policy. People, neither in Europe, they don't
trust the government, they don't trust the media, etc., because all the promises were
in vain. All the people saying, your pension will be better. They are the same people now,
letting people work until 70 years, etc. So there is no trust, there is a big rage. And
that's not translated politically. And so these movements will be there. And then there
There are two forces that can push these movements in two directions.
There is a fascist force supported by the US embassies here, like also in Belgium, pushing
the extreme right in Belgium, in Germany.
And there is the progressive, the socialist force to push for a systemic answer.
So it can go both ways.
I am positive because struggle, consciousness, organization, they are growing, but we haven't
one yet, let's be honest, we have to prepare this moment, these movements, they will be there,
and if we aren't organized enough at that moment, the fascists sure are. So it's also
cross-picking the moment, preparing the moment to push forward to our real rupture with this
neoliberal capitalist system that we need to prepare. Well, about that, as Marxists we say we
we want to change the world? It's easy to say that, but how do we do it? That's the most
important question. And so Hassan, in your streams, you speak a lot about the importance
of bringing back the working class, the consciousness of the working class, the class consciousness.
Why is that so important?
Well, class consciousness is the foundation of any revolutionary movement, any workers'
back movement, any movement that doesn't recognize its class position can't organize adequately.
And billionaires are very aware of their class.
They are constantly engaging in class warfare quite effectively as a matter of fact.
So my goal is to try to build that foundation in America.
There's a quote that's falsely attributed to Steinbeck from the period of Great Depression
uh... that uh... socialism will never work
in the united states
because the working class do not see themselves
as an exploited proletariat
but instead as temporarily embarrassed millionaires
and i think that so perfectly uh... except for is the the american
uh... working class in the attitudes that they have that they're constantly in
a state of
of uh...
eventually becoming million as this is the the foundation of the american promise
it was expressed through manifest destiny
uh... through its westward expansion america's a proto-capitalist nation
a nation of small business owners before
it uh... before it became a fully flushed out uh... capitalist country
so
it's it's uh... deeply embedded in the american consciousness
but at the end of the day
there are
far more workers in the country than there are actual
owners actual capital owners
And I think that's the first step, because without class consciousness, it will be exceptionally
difficult to organize workers on their class position.
So that's what I try to tackle to the best of my ability, obviously, due to not only
the American predisposition, but also due to a almost a century of Red Scare propaganda,
The labor union movements have been gutted and effectively destroyed.
The socialist movement, the communist movement, has been effectively destroyed in the country.
And there have been criminal penalties in direct odds with the Constitution in the United
States and in our history.
So it's an uphill battle.
But I think because the contradictions have worsened to such a degree that people are aware
that the system is not helping them and they can recognize it with their own eyes.
no one needs to lead them to recognize that reality at this point, that they are seeking
alternatives. They recognize that that alternative is not coming from Trumpism, it's not coming
from the right, and they are recognizing that this alternative is not coming from the democratic
establishment either. So we are the alternative, and we are going to continue organizing so
that we can make these changes that are absolute necessity.
Peter, how do you see that? I mean, we are the Workers' Party of Belgium, so class consciousness
is quite important.
First of all, I think that is different levels. I was for my former book Mutiny in New York
two years ago, just before Trump had its second term, and there was a murder on a big CEO
or a guy from a private company, private insurance.
Brian Thompson, UnitedHealthcare CEO.
Exactly.
And we had a debate, no, no, we had a debate.
He was murdered.
And my son texted me, daddy, do you have anything to do
with the murder?
I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And then we discussed and the amount of support
I heard about this act, I'm against this act.
It's like an unorganized, violent act.
It doesn't work.
It's adventurism.
Yeah.
It's terrorism.
But the amount of support, and then I thought, OK, there are some germs of people knowing
we're in a class society, that this guy, his job, was really to take profit from the misery
and the sickness of a lot of millions of people, because it was really profound.
So you have to detect also this kind of forms, because it was not a unity discourse.
There was no unity.
We all together, we in the same ship, and it was none of the bastards, etc., etc., he
had it coming.
Okay, I don't defend the act, but there are these germs of class consciousness, very,
very tiny germs of, they are there everywhere.
Also in Europe people, they know and they feel more than other.
And I think the left has to detect these germs, this beginning of class, and develop the emancipation.
We lost that word before the ruckus class movement in Belgium, in Europe, was built.
By this dream, we emancipate people by emancipating themselves, reading, culture, films, movie,
poetry, music, etc.
There is an emancipation to get a conscience as a class, and I think the leftist is there
to help.
And there's a lot of people eager to be there.
I think there is an underestimating of the necessity to do this basic job.
So I think it's a long-term job.
It's a silent job.
But these germs are there.
As long as we live in a class society, there will be exploitation.
There will be these profits, et cetera.
So it will be there.
It's just hours to give strength to this consciousness from below and the power below.
I think Brian Thompson's example that you use so aptly is a perfect demonstration of
the contradictions worsening because in a system of for-profit health care, there is
a, I guess, a more manageable level to exploit the population, to take advantage of the
ill in their weakest moments.
But the American system, the American health care system,
has become such a cancerous entity
that that pain is universalized in the country,
that virtually every single person, including,
there were people on LinkedIn, like business professionals
on LinkedIn writing negatively about Brian Thompson,
responding to Brian Thompson's posts before his demise,
before his untimely demise, saying, fuck you.
And that was mind-boggling to me.
I was shocked by that as well,
because Americans are very draconian people.
We do not like crime at all,
and we want to punish criminals
with the maximum penalty, normally.
And yet, this heinous crime had taken place in broad daylight,
and now Americans were in support of it.
That is a very unique predicament.
And it is only because the system of private healthcare
had touched the lives of virtually every single american every single american
knows a relative
that spent their last days
calling up the insurance company
begging them
to to
actually pay for this health care coverage for the cancer treatment that
they actually paid for
uh... it but the insurance companies make money off of denying that
uh... coverage
and i want to add one thing for the belgium this is this
that's the system
teo franking is promoting exactly that system
he wants to have the
money for the military to install also that kind of system
yes and you know for uh... for dentists
is a good idea because then you have money
for uh... for the army at that take it from an american you do not want the
american system
i just
uh... but i will say i think there's a unique opportunity here for left parties
in general in europe
because it's very clear
that the nationalist parties the fascist parties
the far-right parties in every single European capital
has completely dropped the notion of national sovereignty.
So I do think that European cooperation
and national sovereignty could be at the forefront
of left-party mobilization and anti-Americanism as well.
I think that's a very valuable,
that's a very valuable mode of propaganda.
Mark Carney is a liberal in Canada.
he rose the power off the backs of of you know opposing trumpism now
uh... house in sear he is uh... about opposing trump only time will tell
uh... there's a tariff war that's going on with uh... with canada
uh... right now and and you know mark carney's popularities only increase
and i think the left party should be the true
uh... party of of european sovereignty european statehood
uh... and and european cooperation
I really do agree, because I think if you see this sovereignty, like the so-called Nationalist
Party, like in France, Rassau-Lamon National, they say France, for the French, etc., she's
supported by Elon Musk, she's supported by the algorithms of Elon Musk, she's supported
by the American embassy in Paris, in Germany, AFD, they say, okay, Germany for the Germans,
They are funded by American money, they are dependent, Elon Musk went to Germany to support
Alistair Weidl and said to the German government, they have to be what sovereignty?
They are not for sovereignty, they are for authoritarianism.
And so all these progressive forces that want to put an end on the federalization of Europe
from the US, I do think they have to be in a progressive camp and there is some space
for the left.
The goal, however, has not to be to create an autonomous Europe to do the same thing,
to play trampolite or something, and to create a European imperialism.
No, no, no, the goal is to be really sovereign and to create a European socialism.
But I do agree for the space for the sovereignty idea in Europe.
Yeah, I mean, there's a reason why these far-right figures are allowing American dominance to
take root in Europe, which it already has for many, many decades at this point, and
Europe has suffered as a consequence of this, whether it be American proxy wars or American
wars in the Strait of Hormuz and the negative impact that Europe feels.
Europe feels it far worse than we do in the United States of America.
So to have far-right parties support or seek out the support of an antagonistic force that's
actually harming the lives of the European working class is very frustrating to see from
the United States of America.
But I think at the end of the day they all serve the same masters.
It's war profiteers that don't care about any nation whatsoever and only care about
profit.
And when those war profiteers come to your backyard, when they change, when they start
implementing austerity measures in order to pay for American weapons so that Belgium can
defend itself with Western weapons so that they can go back and engage in some kind of
blunder in the Congo, as Theo Franken has advocated for, know that the average person in Belgium
will not benefit from this reality
it will only benefit
faceless lifeless parasitic capital a handful of
uh... billionaires that epstein class if you will
those will be the only people benefit
regular workers will suffer as a consequence of that
yes exactly because they want to
introduce him in the american
model i without social security they want to destroy the one too
organizing grand theft
but uh...
All the cabinets in Belgium, they apply now austerity.
One cabinet has 34 billion extra.
The cabinet of Theo Franken.
It's almost a cartoon.
All the money goes to one cabinet, the war cabinet
of Theo Franken.
34 billion in Belgium, it's a big amount.
And so we asked Theo Franken, the minister,
can you give the shopping bill?
What will you buy with the 34 billion?
Because he's talking defense, defense, defense.
The shopping bill was not about defense material.
It was about freggots to send to the Red Sea.
It was about F-35 planes to carry nuclear bombs.
It was about material to intervene in the Sahel, in Congo.
And so they are not preparing a defense of Europe, a defense of Belgium.
They are preparing a new imperialist army also to regain ground in the Sahel, where
the French were kicked out to re-control the cobalt in the Congo.
That is really their goal and they will let pay the working class social security to wage
their imperialist war.
So all these things in my opinion are linked.
But at the end of the day it is not about defense, neither defense on social security
level and human level, but neither even military defense.
offensive material we are buying in Belgium and in Europe and the most
important thing is making people realize that it's offensive and that's
well sometimes it's working sometimes it's not some people are opposed some
are not we had a survey in Belgium about that and like most people don't agree
with spending more money on militarism but that doesn't mean that it's already
won how do you see the movement against militarization in the United States and
and also in Belgium?
So I'm going to say this one more time.
Take it from an American.
Even if you personally believe, oh, well, what's so wrong?
Maybe we go back to the Congo and we
take control over these critical minerals that
are necessary for defense production
and then we can make money, you will not make money.
It wouldn't be right even if you did make money,
even if they circulated the plunder back
to the working class
it still would be immoral it still would be violent it will still be
unjustifiable
but again take it from an american who has lived through the growth global war
on terror
when halibutin goes into uh... iraq
uh... when exxon and and chevron go into iraq when shell corporation goes into
iraq or nigeria or numerous other countries
does not benefit there is no downstream positive consequences
for the average american as a matter of fact in order
to uh... uh... to to marshal the forces necessary for the continuation of the
extraction of these natural natural resources from these countries
they take away
our taxable revenue and instead of using that taxable revenue on our roads on our
schools on our hospitals
in the wealthiest nation on earth all of that
focus all of that tension goes
making sure that there is a military force mighty enough to be able to continue
extracting these natural resources so there's no positive benefits now
you asked what can the anti-war movement do
uh... i think there's a real crisis not only in liberalism
but a real crisis in democracy in the western capitalist nations right now
people
finally coming to the realization
that the democratic process is not working
so we have to stress to our politicians both to direct action
both through work stoppages, that they have a tough choice ahead of themselves.
Do they continue putting the interests of corporations ahead of the interests of the
population, or will they fight to preserve democracy?
Will they at least offer some kind of a pressure valve to respond to the just demands that
the masses are making?
And obviously, power never concedes without demand, and not only must we make these demands,
we also have to have some kind of force behind these demands, a force of labor that is undeniable
that will show that if they do not abide by our interests, then we will stop the profit
centers from continuing to churn out profits for shareholders.
Yeah, like in Belgium parliament, small parliament, but you can advocate about the
cluster for 14 months now on pensions.
You have a debate.
In another commission, you can have a debate about Theo Franken and when he sees drones
on the airport in Belgium.
There were no drones, it was a police helicopter, you can have a debate about that and etc.
They get angry when you link boats.
I've seen that.
They really get angry when you link the fact that there is austerity and people have to
work until 67, 68 on the roofs, etc, and you link that with the militarization.
If you link boats, they really get, so I think it's very important because we have a big
movement, for the pensions we support the movement, it's very important.
And like I said, in Germany there are movements now, in Holland there are movements, there
will be other movements.
But the movements has to be deepened, but also connected with the militarization, connected
with the global south, connected with the climate question.
And I think to connect all these movements, that's also deepened a consciousness, because
You can be aware, socioeconomic, about the exploitation,
but not aware about all the other issues.
And so letting flow these things in the same movement
and try to get one bigger movement, it is a big work.
I know it is a long work on a long term, but it pays off.
It's a human capital you are building.
It's not money.
You have its human capital that you are building in.
I think they are afraid about the links that we make between austerity and militarisation
and we will continue to do that.
Absolutely.
I think that's important, yeah.
Maybe back to the working class and the importance to win them.
Hassan, you have been very vocal on the debate on Marxism versus identity politics.
What's the difference between both?
And why do you agree more with Marxism?
I mean, I think that all expressions of violence, even against different identities, marginalized
identities is still first and foremost class violence.
It's just that I'm a believer in intersectionality, intersectionality that also features class.
So I'm not one of these people that says, oh, these racial distinctions don't matter.
They're racial harm doesn't matter.
Of course it matters.
And in many instances, I think, to adequately correct the historic wrongs that have been
done to black people in the United States of America, for example, the solutions also
cannot be race-blind.
If the problem is not race-blind, then the solutions also can't be race-blind.
So having said all of that, what I oppose is the cynical weaponization of identity politics.
uh... i always go back to something that hillary ronald clinton said in twenty
sixteen of the primaries against bernie sanders where she said if you broke up
the big banks
with that solve systemic racism
that to me
is the perfect
it uh... the perfect manifestation of
hollowed out identity politics
exclusively deployed
towards uh... the left flank
in an effort to undermine
a a uh... class conscious movement
uh... and
first of all the answer is is yes it would make it easier to to solve systemic
racism and systemic discrimination if we broke up the big banks
uh... so
that's why it's already silly to say that
uh... but but i think more and more americans are are
uh... becoming aware of this there's this woke one point or woke two point
oh
uh... distinction
uh... that uh... you know everyone has an opinion on
and i think for me
at least
uh... there was some social excesses in in the way that we were advocating
because uh... we on the left of a tendency
to understand that we have the morally righteous position
but even if you have the morally righteous position
you shouldn't act like you have the morally righteous position you should
always
uh... advocate you should always be the best advocate you possibly can be
uh... and i think that was one of the elements of i guess uh... it
in the past left movements that
that uh...
came across as difficult to approach.
But the real distinction, I think,
is that people no longer trust the standpoint epistemology
deployed to defend reactionary positions.
One of the reasons why people no longer trust it
is because of the post-October 7 dynamic and attitude
shift that took place.
because in the immediate aftermath, and this is still continuing for the last three years
during the duration of the genocide, many defenders of the Israeli apartheid, the Israeli
occupation, and the genocide that was taking place kept repeatedly saying over and over
again, if you oppose this violence that you're seeing, this violence that you are morally
culpable for as well because we're funding it, we're giving them the weapons, then you're
anti-Semitic.
This was a cynical deployment of identity politics, this was a standpoint of epistemology being deployed
to defend a fascist government doing the worst crime that any human or any government could do,
the crime of genocide. And I think that actually caused a seismic shift in our understanding
of identity politics, or rather the cynical weaponization of it.
Peter, I heard you say one that we have to unite the working class, but in all its diversity.
How would you see that?
Yes, okay.
I think the movement is unite, divide, unite.
You start with unite and you end with unite.
And it's very important.
And then there is some tendencies.
They do the other way around.
The other triangle, divide, unite, divide.
I think it is a recipe for to lose.
meaning, I think it's a class question at the end of the day.
And imperialism and capitalism is a system.
And so is exploitation part of the basic thing?
Is the exploitation of the global part
is the basic thing?
What's racism other as a systemic ideology
to say we have to exploit?
So there's a link about exploitation and racism.
There's a link about Patrick and the capitalist system.
So at the end, it's linked with capitalism
and it's linked to imperialism.
And so, yes, we have to have minorities that are loud
and also ice-breaking taboos.
It's important to break some ice,
but always to end in unity.
That's important.
Not end in the big truth of this particular section.
And that's a big difference.
So there will be ice breakers on some topics,
thoughts that are frozen,
needs to be broken open,
but in a sense of unity.
Because the working class is diverse also in the traditions.
There is the cities, there is the countryside.
The change in the world is going that rapidly.
Should we include people that are not
conscient enough about all topics together,
then we can only work with our own mirror.
But now, you have to work also inside the working class
with people that have some prejudices about other people.
The struggle we'll learn, the struggle
we will be an education, the struggle
is say, oh, I was two-day for the first time in my life
with XYZ from this minority, and I
thought this about at the end of the day,
we were marching together against the Volkswagen
plant, et cetera.
The struggle will be an educator of all this unity,
Articulation and bacterial unity is very important, I think.
Yeah.
The working class is diverse.
So any kind of divisive attitude, often demonstrated by the reactionaries, is specifically designed
to divide the working class, to fight amongst one another, rather than to fight capital.
And it's nefarious.
It's malign influence.
So at the end of the day, the solution is solidarity.
And that's always been the solution, the socialist movement, historically.
It's always solidarity against racism.
Okay, so in Belgium, but also in the United States, a lot of working class people are
voting right-wing at this moment.
So we can say we are, you said they have nothing to win with it, I agree, but still a lot of
people do vote for it.
How would you oppose it? How would you convince them otherwise?
What is the way of showing that the solution is solidarity?
I mean, they have issues, right? I say this all the time in America and in the American context,
so excuse my American expressions here, but I tell the Democrats all the time,
time, look, races need health care, too, OK?
So you put that issue at the forefront of your messaging.
You put that policy, socialized medicine,
as your primary concern.
You are going to win some of these races silver.
And Democrats, on the other hand, and some liberal parties
in Europe do this as well.
Instead of trying to solve the economic struggles
that people of working class backgrounds
they're experiencing, regardless of their ideology,
regardless of their opinions, they decide,
oh, we have to win over the races by becoming races.
This is a failure, because if you,
if you as the liberal party have advocated
against racism for years and years,
even if you weren't sincere about it, apparently,
and you all of a sudden turn and you pivot,
and you pivot to the right, and you say,
oh, we are going to be the moderately racist party
as opposed to the far-right, really racist party,
all you've done is legitimize your opposition's framework.
All you've done is legitimize racism,
because when given the option,
and we saw this in 2024,
when given the option between diet fascism
and real fascism, people go for the real thing.
They vote for Donald Trump.
And that's precisely the reason why,
when the Labor Party continues the austerity regime
after running against it,
or running against the Tory's austerity regime
for almost three decades, and they continue that austerity.
And then in exchange for stability,
and in exchange to win over some additional voters,
they decide to concede to the right-wing sentiment
that migrants are creating a national security problem,
that they're coming into the country
not to find a better future for themselves,
but to instead engage in criminal behavior,
All you've done is give way for reform to continue growing its movement.
This is a real issue.
Absolutely.
Peter, how do you think we win those people back who are voting right-wing right now?
First of all, I remember when Trump was installed, he had this big inauguration meeting where
the tech barons were invited and all the little Trumps of Europe, they wanted to come
And they were calling the White House, can we come?
They couldn't come.
So they were all little tramps like Tom Van Rieke.
He wanted to go.
They had a fascist, the local fascist,
here from Schote Braschalt, whatever.
He wanted to go.
Now they are silent about Trump.
That's interesting.
Trump was saying, like Hassan said, cost of living,
I will solve it.
Forever worse, I will solve it.
He didn't solve these problems, and they know it.
So you want to see what's the policy of the extreme right
of the Trump levers.
Look at the United States.
They are in a big, big mess.
That's one thing.
That's not enough, because now I'm talking to the mind.
And that's half of the answer, because we have also
to talk to the soul.
And a project I will present, we have
Medics for the People, 11 health care centers
linked to the party.
Serve the people as a socialist idea.
free health care in the people's quarters.
And the patients, I'm very proud of our nurses,
our physicians, et cetera, who work there.
Because the people that come there,
there are people, there are people, liberal people,
sometimes racist people, et cetera.
And at the end of the day, you can say anything
about the Workers' Party of Belgium,
but they are really serious people, daycare,
they are a doing party, they are not a talking party
like all the rest, and that's important,
it's just one question.
So left politics has also to appeal to the soul
in doing things, organizing things.
Like I said before, it is in the struggle
that you educate people.
It's not only with books.
It's important books.
I like books.
I write books, OK.
But it's not only with books.
It's also with action, organizing, being present.
And that sometimes lacks.
There is the lack of presence, doing, organizing presence.
The whole working class movement in Europe
was built that well, also with cooperatives,
cheap bread, et cetera.
Let's invent this means of struggle in the 21st century.
Organize people, have intellectuals,
inspire intellectuals to serve the people
and serve the struggle.
We can win the world if we do that.
It's not only talk to the mind, also be there on the floor
and talk to the soul of the people.
Absolutely.
Hassan, you are a streamer, so you talk to people a lot, but you talk about organizing.
Yeah, all I do is talk to people.
Oh, no, no.
Right after one.
It's important, by the way, because we really have to talk to a lot of people and convince
them.
But no, you talk a lot about organizing as well.
And I was wondering, how do you see it, organizing?
I mean, organizing is the backbone of this movement.
we have to be ready. Like I said, there's a real crisis here and revolutions are not
spontaneous. They don't happen overnight. We have to be diligent. We have to be organized.
We have to out-organize our opponents, whether they be fascists, whether they be organized
money. And I think one way that I get a lot of people in my community to become more active
in their communities, in the real world, in their workplaces is by telling them that this
is not only an opportunity to socialize with other people, touch grass, it's good, at the
age of the internet, everyone feels so isolated, we're so atomized, but also that this is an
opportunity to gain autonomy because when you go out and unionize your workplace, when
When you go out and reach out to a larger union and you engage in this endeavor, if successful,
and this is a very difficult endeavor, especially in America, they do a lot of illegal things.
They do union busting quite frequently.
But basically, when you successfully unionize your workplace, you end up fighting for a
better contract, you end up fighting for your own productive output, and you gain autonomy,
you gain the confidence to be able to further this working class movement. It's like a muscle.
If you don't exercise it, if you don't even know that you have this muscle, then you'll
never deploy it. But once you do, once you start doing it, and once you start actually
winning. Once you win a better, a fair contract, for example, you realize that you do hold all
the power. And that's a really important exercise to continue pushing for. And I think that's
the foundation of organizing and how that expands into a real political movement.
I like the metaphor of the muscle. And I think there is a lot of muscles present,
systems, not being used today among the population, I think the whole system is concentrated via
the media, via social media, via algorithms, to say to people you're small, you're tiny,
you're nothing, you can't change, there's big powers, you can, you're powerless.
The whole idea of the system is saying that to people, giving people the feel that they
They are not strong enough.
And I think organization and struggle are the answer to that.
Because then you feel, OK, at the end of the day,
who is even producing the weapons?
Who is producing the cars?
Who is producing the seats?
Who is producing the table?
Who is producing the mics, the cameras, et cetera?
The productive force of this world, the creating,
the wealth-creating force, is a working class in a large sense.
And if the working class comes together, there is a power.
There is a real power.
There is a big, big muscle not detected yet to emancipate.
So I think at the end of the day, not feeling
because there is a material side of the question,
it's only by strikes and demonstrations
that the other side has fear and backs down.
There's a material side.
But there's also the conscious sides,
knowing that you're not alone anymore,
knowing that you don't have to flee in bitterness
or in depression, et cetera,
knowing that there is a potential strength in you
when you organize it, that's also the mind,
that it's a freedom to detect
that you have potential, that power.
But it takes a long, it is a long way.
It's, you succeed, you fall,
you get up again, et cetera, but that's life.
And for a left-wing party, what are the guidelines
to organizing?
How do we do it?
Because we do it a lot, I think, in many ways.
I think let's be open and learn from each other.
I remember our party was small.
And OK, we learned a lot.
We steal a lot.
Everything that's good, we steal.
OK, no, we're proud of what's working.
In some example, let's do that all.
what's working still.
So I think whether you're a big party, a small organization,
doesn't matter.
You can learn from each other.
We have to learn and be humble also.
And I think the most important is building up,
giving confidence to people on the low.
We have sections, for example.
Sections in the party, in the workplace,
and in the people's character.
And trying to give confidence to people
to engage in action, that's a work.
But it's such an honorable work.
You see people flourish, just like flowers.
They become strong.
It is an honorable work to do.
And yeah, OK, that's a long time job we have to do.
But that's an emancipation.
It's not only the parties.
Also other organizations, trade unions,
sports organizations.
It's not only the parties.
It's everywhere where you come together
and you have a collective action.
I also want to say a word on solidarity as well,
because solidarity is the closest expression to love
that I've ever felt in public.
I've gone to Gaza protests all around the world.
I've gone on humanitarian missions in the Cuba.
And when you are surrounded by like-minded individuals,
whether you are participating in an ICE protest
in Minneapolis or Los Angeles,
or whether you're participating in a No Kings rally
or any number of different things that I just mentioned,
or even Manifest though, where you come and you celebrate
and you listen to some thinkers and you listen to some music
and you participate in sporting activities,
this is a real antidote to the loneliness epidemic
that people feel as well.
And I think it's the backbone of organizing.
So whenever I feel discouraged, I get yelled at a lot.
I get yelled at on the internet a lot.
Many of you have probably seen it.
And I no longer feel lonely when I'm surrounded by comrades,
when I'm surrounded by like-minded individuals who want what's best for the world,
who want what's best for their neighbors, for people that they've never met before,
that want to extend a helping hand.
And I think that is, I mean, I don't really get very mushy-gushy usually,
But this is a real moment where I think solidarity
is an unbelievably powerful tool, especially
in the era of the internet, where we feel
we're being inundated with hateful messages backed
by algorithms that are tweaked in this direction
by billionaire perverts that own these social media platforms
with the express purpose of dividing the working class.
So moments like this in the real world
are very powerful and they can't take that away from us. No matter how much
piss boy tries to criminalize his gatherings. No it's true I spoke to many
people here today at Manifesta and one thing that I heard a lot is people saying
I'm losing hope because I have the feeling that everything is becoming
right-wing but when I'm here I see there's so many people who think the same
thing and we are more people so we can we can actually change things. That's an
important message of solidarity, it's true.
So Hassan, about the left, in a recent interview,
you spoke about the importance of fun for the left.
So we can't be boring.
Is the left sometimes boring, you think?
Yes, absolutely.
Let's be real, I'm sorry.
We love reading, we love our reading groups,
we love our struggle sessions.
There's a history of that, I think, on the left.
But one thing that I think we've lost sight of
is that the entire purpose of socialism
is not to abide by this dogmatic approach
to orthodox Marxist principles.
The entire purpose of socialism is to unlock
individual freedoms for everyone.
Individual freedoms that I now have access to
because I've been profoundly lucky
and profoundly successful in Twitch streaming.
I always say, look, it's like I won the lottery
And I keep winning the lottery every single day.
It shouldn't have to be like that.
Everyone should be able to have autonomy in their workplace, autonomy in their lives.
Everyone should be able to take care of their family and have hope for a better future.
And ultimately that is the goal of socialism.
So we can, as Mark's also put it, so we can go and fish and read books and think and argue
and you know
go to the movies and enjoy uh... enjoy one another's company
that is what socialism is supposed to be about
uh... it's not uh... it is this moral system that we all believe because it's
the moral system
it's one that we truly believe
will unlock
real human freedom and real human potential
uh... and and you know that's why i always say look you can have fun you
should be able to have fun
uh... not everything has to be super serious all the time
uh... and i think that also makes us more approachable as well because
people want to have fun if you're if you're constantly moralizing if you're
constantly like a like a walk schooled because we tell people that what they're
doing is a moral and wrong
uh... you know i see there's limits to this i'm not saying you know let everything
uh... fly
but uh... but if you're if you're
constantly taking a serious approach even though the crisis is serious
people won't want to to be by your side
so i think having fun is is good it's healthy it's important and it's good for
organizing as well
that's a fun
do you agree Peter?
you don't have fun in the final, you're still allowed to
now okay mine and so
I really agree with Hassan said also about
in Cuba for example I will take Cuba because they are now
as fixated with an immoral, disgusting economic warfare
to kill ordinary people.
It's really disgusting what's happening.
But 10 years ago in Cuba, people 18, 19 years old dancing,
having fun, there was a documentary maker from Belgium
going there, interviewing people of 70, 80 years, telling,
I'm in love again.
And now I'm dancing for the first time with my partner.
Another one, I never played an instrument.
I learned the accordion, 70 years, 75 years.
They were fully in society, not outside of society.
They were living.
People of 70, 80, 90 years old, they were living.
And they were freed from misery, freed from hunger, freed
from the necessity to work, work, work, work, work,
to have decent pensions.
And if you're freed from all these material needs,
you can have emancipation as you like.
You can dance.
You have the opportunity to be 68 years old and say, OK,
as a working class kid, as a son of a railwayman,
you can say, OK, I'm going 70, 80 years.
Now I'm going to learn Greek music.
That's happening.
And so, this making a system that the basic necessities for the people are organized collectively,
that's the condition for every individual talent to flourish.
That's the way we need each other.
Even an egoist, even an individualist, needs one another.
Because if you're egoistic and individualistic on an island, on yourself, only one tree, a palm tree,
you cannot do anything with your egoism, because a palm tree will not respond,
respond, even to be egoistic, you need other people, we need, we are social species as human
being and so organize the basic necessity in a collective way and then every talent can
flourish and we are not the same, we don't have to be the same, some are better in this
and that, but if the basic thing is the same for everyone, everyone can flourish and now
And now all these talents, I will end with that, but all these talents of working-class
kids, they are killed.
All the kids, they can go to the music school, they can do this and maybe some exceptions.
But what a waste of talent in the world with this capitalist system, what a waste of talent.
That's organized collectively and then every talent can flourish.
Okay, we still have some minutes, so I want to end with a message of hope.
In Peter's book, he's writing about, well, we're in special times, a war, climate crisis,
financial crisis.
But within those difficult moments, there's also an aspect of hope, like people rising
up, people realizing it's not going the right direction, people organizing.
Do you see that?
Do you see hope?
Are you hopeful for the future?
Absolutely.
In a realistic way?
absolutely because opportunity is born out of crisis and we are obviously in a
moment of tremendous crisis right now and i'll give you an example from my own
personal experience
in twenty twenty four
when i watched uh... kamala harris speak at the dnc the democratic national
convention
and and say on the last day after refusing
any palestinian to speak on the podium
uh... on the last day she said
that she was going to oversee the most lethal military
uh... they leaned into
the dangerous reactionary uh... attitudes built around lies that migrants
for a national security
uh... issue
uh... they they tried to become like the republicans
it was a very
uh... it was very sad moment
to observe
to use after that or one year after that
we got sara mondani elected in new york city
as an out and about democratic socialist
anti-Zionist, a Muslim socialist in the heart of capital, the heart of empire in New York
City. Now he's one of the most popular politicians, but we didn't stop there. That was a moment
of hope for me. I realized that we can make this change, no matter how small it may seem.
But that was just the beginning of this momentum. What I also saw was a lot of discontent.
after their defeat to Donald Trump the second time refused to do anything about
it they decided there's a James Carville article in the New York Times he
said show your belly punish the people show them what it looks like when the
Republicans are in charge so they come back to us they come back to the
Democratic Party and they vote for us without us having to offer anything
people recognize that the Democrats weren't doing anything to fight back
against Trump, and they got very frustrated. So when I took to the streets to participate
in these days of action, in these protests against ICE, in these no-kings rallies, I
saw a lot of older people, lifelong Democrats who had voted for establishment Democrats
who believed that Hillary Clinton was actually a far better candidate than Bernie Sanders,
who were scared of the concept of socialism in the past. Those Democrats were looking
for change. They were angry. They were angry at Trump, but they weren't just angry at Trump.
They were angry at the Democratic Party as well. And that is precisely the reason why
I decided this is our opportunity now to push further, to get people on board with a self-identifying
unapologetic socialist message. And we've seen tremendous success in the process as
well. We've run socialists against long-term incumbents and defeated them. We've run candidates
that are in favor of Medicare for All, that have been able to overcome great odds, that
have been outspent 12 to 1, that have been able to defeat $70 million in just the primary
loan, historic amounts of money being spent. And these candidates are winning because people
believe in them
they are becoming the change that people have a deep hunger for
and they are
uh... we are saying no more
businesses usual politics in the country so there is great opportunity for
hope because for the first time ever
i feel truly
like we have the capacity
to change the american trajectory to restrain the american empire to hold the
reins
of of
our empire in retreat
and to make sure that that process is as just as possible.
And I think that it is possible.
And we're gonna continue fighting for it.
Brilliant.
Thanks a lot.
I would let you answer, but our time is up.
I'm, I'm afraid.
I'm sorry.
No, no, it was really...
Time is a relative concept.
It's true.
I think we should continue actually, baby.
Yeah.
Yeah, go on, Peter.
Yeah, okay.
Yes.
just what hope is not is not a status hope is not a picture hope is to be
created and that that's because all the change there are people behind it
let's say at one time we're gonna create a local section of DSA we're gonna run
and all the other people said no the other the other guy has 70 million how
can you and this guy said okay I'm gonna run I'm gonna go for it and that's
creating hope and so create hope is an activity, is an action, is a responsibility also for
progressive people. You can create one thing that inspired me a lot was when I was young
I spoke with a survivor of a concentration camp and she was talking about hope in concentration
camps. How people on the left were organizers of the kitchen of some concentration camps
and installing small pieces of hope, even in the most dark systems.
And so you create hope, small things in your neighborhood, in your workforce, bigger things
to organize, but hope is to be created by organization, by insight, learning things,
by experience and by struggle. Hope is to be created and then all the people here present,
They have to be delegates of hope, creators of hope.
We can do it together.
OK, so go have fun and create hope.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks a lot for being here.
It was really interesting.
And thank you all for listening.
OK.
OK, wow.
Cheers.
I have to be so bad.
This was great.
I have to be so bad dude oh no
I
Thank you so much.
I do need a drink, but I need to pee for a while.
Thank you so much!
What is drinking?
I do need a drink, but I need to pee first.
I have to.
I have to do it because you're old God.
Okay, alright, quick, quick.
Take your selfie out. Take the selfie out.
Okay, hold on.
Are you really eating the pee, guys?
Yeah, we gotta go.
Wait, we didn't take them.
No problem.
That's good, that's good.
Thank you.
Alright.
Okay.
Alright, thank you.
Tom!
Okay, alright.
I don't think we have time, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry
That's no problem
Yeah
I don't like my fucking hair
It's like a life dream
Yeah, yeah
I don't like my fucking hair
I don't like my fucking hair
Okay
Okay
All right, where are we?
We made it through the
Well, go
The most
The craziest part
I did not think that I had this many fans in Belgium
I'm not gonna lie, that's crazy
Well, you have now
Yeah
Once you go to your room
She's a house and I have a head tube
Hi, Chad
Finally
Yeah
How come you guys don't do cool things?
You guys don't do cool shit like this. She's in the she's one of the medics. Yes
medics for the people. Yeah she's one of the medics for the people for the party
Yeah, you're putting all that you're putting all the other Hassanabahids
to shame. Well he and the youth organization of the party inspired me to to go for it.
So if you're in the chat you should get organized.
Okay.
Hello.
Hi, Fox.
What?
This is a huge mart.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Is this for high schoolers?
Oh, yeah, Red Fox.
Red Fox.
Yeah. What are they hiding?
That's what the media is like.
Whoa, what are they doing?
We saw them.
Is everything okay?
Yes, it's okay.
Sorry.
This is where it started for me.
Come on.
You turn the camera.
Where are you?
We are there.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
We are going backstage.
Backstage.
Backstage.
Quick.
Backstage.
Thank you man.
Yes.
Sarnag, it's negative.
I'm going to get a big shot.
Quick, last one.
Shit, my head hurts.
Sarnag.
Quick.
It's half of you.
It's too much.
Sarnag.
Just Sarnag.
Thank you.
Sarnag.
Sarnag.
It's negative.
Not good after on the tour.
Sorry.
Sorry.
All right.
Good one.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, we made it.
We made it, we made it.
Where's my dad?
You see him here?
He's on the phone over there.
Oh, okay.
Wait, where's the restroom?
Is it that way or is that way?
Yeah.
That was seamless, huh?
What's up? Yeah.
I haven't started.
I kind of pressed the button and kept aiming the camera. I couldn't quite look at chat at all.
No, I didn't look at chat at all.
We still don't know what happened to the bot last night.
Chat.
I don't know why I got deleted.
It's crazy the bathrooms are that far, this is the backstage.
Okay, you guys don't have to come with me to the bathroom.
Yes.
David, please.
David, so please.
All right, I'm going to say you, OK?
Yes.
I got it.
You tell him about the organization.
Yeah, I will.
You find his answer.
Thank you.
Keep the phone.
All right, chat.
We're letting him use the bathroom.
OK, guys?
He needs a break.
Let the man see.
You want to talk about organoval?
No, yes.
No, yes?
He slept three hours, maybe.
And then all the debates, all the interviews, like a boss.
Yeah.
Social interactions like a boss.
Like a boss.
Yeah, so last night we ended the broadcast in local time, 2 AM.
We broke down the stream at 3 AM.
We got in a car at 9 AM.
And he immediately non-stop.
This has been a trip and a half.
It's been insane for you guys, I have to say.
Yes.
And I am so, so proud to finally show the Workers' Party of Belgium to you.
Yes, tell us more about that.
Because Belgium never gets mentioned.
Never gets mentioned.
Oh, no, I'm screaming.
You are.
No.
Yeah, we are in the capital of Europe,
and we're having this amazing festival,
bringing together people, speakers from all over the world.
And we're doing things like the medics for the people,
what you heard about a lot already.
But it's so insane, because I can be a doctor,
And I can organize my patients, they come to me,
they talk about their back issues,
or they have a cough from working with chemicals,
and I don't have to be limited to just describe one pill
and go.
I can get them and tell them,
it's capitalism, it's a system, it's amazing, it's amazing.
And it started for me, in the COVID crisis,
I was in my room all alone watching Hasan and he was screaming to me, he was screaming
that I should go, like not to me of course, but we all feel this parasocial relationship.
It was screaming at me, I would say like if you understand what I'm saying then you organize
yourself and then, by the way did you know Theo Franker also arrested me like some time
good I mean I did a stupid tweet after he did something right wait you got a
reservoir of tweet yes yes he he he retweeted me and he told me like look at
the people from the party they support the terrorists or from us because I told
them like like what do you expect if you put people in an open-air prison for so
long and they will they will resist but yeah at that time the people in
Belgium were not ready they didn't really know about Palestine. It seems like
they're still I mean he's trying to get me on similar stuff too so it's not
working so at least there's that. Yeah now at least it's not working anymore.
Yeah. Happy your back. This was a great job. This wasn't bad. Thanks.
So I said it was good, she got arrested, yes.
Yes, what the fuck?
Yeah, I'm a Theo now.
This one's a menace.
Do you want me to call the cashier for the sale?
I think.
What do you want to do?
Yeah, I think we should do that.
Someone is getting it.
Did they?
Yes.
I don't know, they took my phone.
Oh, shit.
Oh, OK.
Oh, he's waiting for my insurance on my dad.
Yeah, yeah.
I got ambushed reported by RTL, they came up to me they're like don't you feel like
you're personally attacking the defense minister I was like I'm not attacking
him I'm just personally fascinated by it because I don't know I don't know what
I don't want to go to prison like you, for two weeks.
That's crazy.
I think they tried to do something that they failed hugely.
Like I told us some earlier, we completely sold out this year.
The Manifesta, like I think 17,000 people, which is insane.
And it's all because of the extra free commotion and mentions.
mentions every newspaper is the highest attendance apparently and
Normally they get a lot of coverage after the fact but this time they got a lot of coverage before the fact
But this is what they don't understand this exactly what's going on in America too where they like the media will yell at me all the time
And a lot of people think oh, it's good like he feels terrible like the media is coming after him
Everyone's gonna hate him the exact opposite happens where people go. Oh if everybody hates
Yes, let's have a look.
And hurry!
Okay, do you want a...
Do you think we call the cab?
No, no.
Drink?
Drink?
Like a beer?
I can have a beer.
Fuck it.
Why not?
I mean, sure, let's do it.
We drink a lot in here.
around these parts I haven't eaten I haven't eaten anything yet today but I'll have I'll slam one beer
so everyone that is like uh everyone that puts the party the event together is a party member
I think Shai is pulling the cover.
Ok.
I will check the rest.
Do you want to be here?
It's alright.
We need to be here.
Do you want to be here?
I think Shai is pulling the cover.
Ok.
I will check the rest.
Do you want to be here?
It's alright.
We need to be here.
Do you want a beer?
It's alright.
Okay, it's big enough right for everybody?
Yeah, I think so. If you're coming as well, then it's five, yeah.
in charge you can't do anything about it
you have to control all of them
what do you have to control?
the ship, well..
it's really good
we will also potentially have Corbin on the broadcast later as well
I told them
Let's sit down
It's no stress if you can't if you can't actually you know pull through because it's
Are you gonna talk to him here? No, no, no, I'm gonna I've been telling him to come to the hodl
Yeah
but
I also need to eat at some point, but not the food here.
I can order something when you're at the hotel.
Do they have Postmates or Uber out here?
I don't even know.
Oh, they do?
Yeah.
Nice.
Nice.
That's good.
Great interview today, Haas.
Thank you.
kind of disappointed he doesn't hold a beer like Dom Terrell, how does he hold it?
oh yeah he feels like real dainty, almost like a swollen eye right now
yeah I hold it normal style
what's wrong with the food? nothing
I just don't want to have the food here, I want to have some local delicatessen
some local delicacies yeah they are warm in the beer shaking my head dog I'm
gonna finish this beer before it has the capacity to get more good all right
Perfect beer
Oh my god
16 times Mike touch, what does that mean?
I don't know
The Houthis have taken more territory seemed to the entire West Indies will be liberated within a few weeks
Yes, we'll be covering that situation monitoring will take place in a little bit. You guys are getting ahead of yourselves
A beer is the equivalent of a snack in Europe. What's the what's the best type of food to have here?
The best type of food
Honestly like
It's like really soft, really tender.
I don't really have so many good things to say about it.
I also personally don't like it.
The best things come from people who migrate to Europe in their lives.
Oh yeah, that's what I was asking.
I wasn't asking like...
We have great bups, pigs of those kinds of things.
Yeah, usually when I come to Europe, I rarely ever eat like...
If I go to Germany, I'm not eating whatever German food is, you know?
Yeah, but I'm German.
Cheers!
No, no, we're just talking about what kind of food they eat in Belgium.
I told them we don't really eat with...
We don't really eat with?
Stofles.
She said that one other, yeah?
Carbonara?
Yeah.
The most things come from, I don't think like the people that might be here, we have very good kebab, pizza, pasta...
What do you...
What do you...
What do you...
What would you say?
The traditional thing is very French inspired kitchen, more meat meat and all kinds of runner...
Kitchen English I can't speak. I can't speak political English.
That's way harder.
That's what he's exercised.
Yeah, that was actually really impressive. It's like I might learn church first, right?
He's tall as hell by the way
You might be the tallest socialist in Europe you might have you ever if you guys ever got
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
I don't know, yeah, I've been to a church.
Yeah.
You have to imagine me as a student.
But what I was saying, oh yeah, it's delicious.
So what I was saying is I tried to do,
so Turkish is my native tongue,
but because all of my professional training
and my media career and all the times
that I talk about politics in English,
I tried to do an interview with a Turkish outlet.
I had you at the shop.
and I could not speak Turkish at all about politics.
It was like embarrassing.
It was very, it was very embarrassing that,
I mean, it was very embarrassing for me,
so it was very impressive that you were able to speak English
and deliver, you know, political opinions in English so, so well.
Okay, I'm struggling with words though.
No, no, no.
Come on, give me a little podcast.
I'm gonna podcast for an hour and a half.
You didn't skip a beat?
It was incredible. How many languages do you speak?
No, four.
Belgium is just...
Belgium people have to speak like four languages.
Yeah, that's right. We got that small, so yeah.
That's why this is the capital of Europe.
It's got all the languages.
In fact, the multi-language thing is very easy.
I've got this for Brazil, really, because
people have to go to France and Germany, etc.
the fact not only being in your own orbit, language-wise, this is already an important
thing. Well, I didn't enjoy Hassanya, it was positive. I heard people saying, okay, it was very positive. The fight was positive.
Wait, wait, wait, do you think it was going to be negative?
No, no, I think they will say, no, no, I think they thought it would go on destruction,
war, genocide, and the bad vibes of rebellion.
But the main thing, the topic was more the organization, the power of the leader.
In that way, there was...
So the therapy was really good.
You know what I mean.
I think the medicine core thing that you guys have going, the stuff that you guys are doing is so impressive and it's so good.
And I think we need to do more of it. You know the Black Panther Party, the direct programs in America, that was like, you know, that was a Maoist party,
but they were like very organized about like directly offering the things to their community.
And I think that's something that DSA needs to do more of as well.
But it's very cool. I don't know how we would do something similar like that.
I feel like we have nurses, but doctors is tough.
Not a lot of...
Are you a doctor?
That's crazy.
I didn't even ask.
Doesn't matter. Right now I'm a human being in Manifesta.
I'm going to pee.
Angel.
I thought you said pee for a second. I was like...
I'm actually...
Yesterday was my... I got my final like everything's done. I worked for years as a GP already
But now it's like I had to do a master thesis again, which was so difficult for me
Great to organize because there's so many things happening in the world
My thesis doesn't feel like it
Thank you. Cheers
We are going to get the gap now. I don't know if everyone's collected
Do we have everyone?
What's up?
He's carrying my stuff for me.
Yeah, I got it.
Thank you Chad for all the congratulations.
Hello.
Hello.
I got a cap here.
Got it.
Foxy got it.
There it is.
No, it's in your pocket. Put it in your pocket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The wall is so big.
Okay. Alright.
I'll carry the bag. It's fine.
You guys don't have to.
I got this one.
Where's the bag? It's heavy.
It's not good.
It's really light.
We got so many. Yeah, thank you.
Nice to meet you.
Good to see you.
I'll be back. I'll be back in Belgium.
Peter.
Incredible hospital.
We got it all.
Street room. Thank you.
Whose bag is that?
That's mine.
Rephrase magazine, if there's one thing you would be able to rephrase one.
Rephrase?
Americans deserve 9-11.
Rephrase, they say is blowback.
That's what I would say instead.
Thank you.
Alright.
Is that exactly a rephrase magazine?
Yeah, we call it rephrase magazine.
We're trying to rephrase things.
and this is one of the
just going on
oh you want to take a photo? we gotta do it quick
oh you're in this one
thank you
alright, have a good one
Oh my god.
That was a lot.
This is my second battle of the day.
I did a long interview with, I think, a notes newspaper.
The standard.
Ah, that's pretty good.
Yeah.
And how did it go?
It went great.
They were very nice.
You know, there was a lot of them.
Yes.
At the beginning of the day, they already liked a lot of...
Clips! Gym Clips! Offer on the horse moments!
Hold it!
Yes. So now if they're gonna do like a longer nice language
We need to interview, it's gonna be great!
Because people are already invested.
That's on you there?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we do it.
Alright, we'll get to the next back.
Like that?
Just a second chat.
second chat
I'm going to sit here, then you'll sit here, and then my dad will sit here.
So he's not on camera!
Okay.
Huh, damn. Always with the light on you.
I'm getting used to it.
Wait, you just rolled a beer and a cat?
I don't know, but it wasn't that bad.
Yes, sir.
Damn.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
This is why you're a criminal.
Dio, Dio Franca.
This boy's coming for you.
No.
Oh, it's the cooks.
That's good.
Oh, it's so bright.
Yeah.
Sorry.
That is so... oh yeah.
You got it?
Yeah, I got it.
He's gonna put a seatbelt on.
That's important.
Don't they have that in the United States?
They do.
It's not just European bureaucracy.
No.
Has these sorts of initiatives we have it to yes. Do you do preventive preventative measures? Yeah, keep people from dying?
Yeah, it's messed up large. It's uh, it's encroaching on her
It's encroaching on our freedoms. Yes. Oh, yeah, there's a video of
Americans when they're told that they can't drunk drive. There's two different videos one when they implement the seatbelt
initiative and the other one is when they make it illegal to drunk drive and
in both it's Americans are very funny they're like this is communism this is
communism I thought this was a free country there's a lady drinking a beer
with her like infant child sitting in the front seat while she's driving and
she's like this is communism that to me I want to be free to die and kill
That is America that's right.
What's Jutsie?
Click it or take it.
They're telling me to put the
they're telling me to put the seatbelt on.
Because I'm an American.
See Belgian, American.
That's not France. That's impulsible.
That's crazy.
That would be crazy.
I'm gonna have Jeremy Corvin pull up as well David did Jeremy's team reach out to you
by the way okay I check your phone because I gave them your phone number to reach out to you
yeah it'll be fine I don't know what happened I think yesterday there was like a like a brief
moment where there was like maybe a tos violation there was in a in one of the videos that I was
watching and I think that's why they nuked the entire bot but then if you
want to if you want to know how crazy people get there were like people with
like viral tweets on Twitter being like I know why I saw it's fun I know what he
said like well tell us why is so yeah I just I wish I knew
Maybe it was because of all the guys in the room.
Was it yesterday that you were in the Parliament?
Or was it the day before?
The European Parliament.
Maybe it was to hide the secrets from the European Parliament.
Yeah, I hate this.
I really liked it with the stream with Michael Tanger. It was really cool.
Yeah, that was dope.
Just you guys walking, suited up in your v-bar on the map.
Seated up?
No.
You guys are quite dapper.
A lot of stairs.
Tell me.
Hmm, I should backwards.
Respect to David.
You work this shit backwards.
That's impressive.
It was really good production on your end too, on the...
No, everyone's shouting out your, uh, your opening scene.
Oh, that was all Hassan, by the way, Chad.
Creative art, right there.
The red carpet.
Yeah.
Oh, my, now I'm super hot.
We're almost there chat. We're almost there. And then you'll get to see the one of the
crazier hotel rooms. I guess it's not that crazy.
Bro, that background looks like a big church.
The background looks crazy. Some of the rooms are actually insane. Like they make no sense.
But at least there's AC in the room this time. There's no, the AC in my room wasn't working
in the other hotel that I was in in Brussels.
He's gonna take that with a suit too.
Oh, I know.
Yeah, I'm gonna take my soldier.
Yes.
But, um, I asked, I asked about why it was like this.
Why there's so many old people around here in this town.
And apparently this gives us like a, like a retiree area.
This is, like, this is my, this wasn't the person.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's made so people with wheelchairs can take a shower.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes.
You know, it's for like old people and people with disabilities, but I've never seen a disability accessible shower like that before.
Because the seat was on the hook when I first came in, I took it off so I could use the shower.
You were gonna try it out?
No, I did not try it out.
The problem with this was sitting in the shower, is that I just never leave the shower.
It was so cozy.
I like sitting in the shower.
Sometimes I postpone so long to finally take a shower.
Then I sit down and I am there for like 45 minutes.
It works out for me.
I'm so...
Is there no way to turn down the brightness of the lamp?
No, this is the lowest it goes, right?
Yeah, you want to flip one of the...
No, no, it's fine. This is fine.
It's intense, the whiteness.
It's far better, it's far better this way than it is today.
No, David, David, it's fine, it's fine, I promise you it's fine.
It's good, it's good, I promise, it's good.
No need to, no need to worry.
You know what, I can work over cooks.
It was already a good day today.
It was a great day.
It was a busy day.
Oh my God, it was a busy day.
You did a lot.
Like the moment you woke up, you were put on the pedal.
Yeah, I went to sleep at 2 last night, woke up at 5am.
You went to sleep at 3.
I went to sleep at 3, I guess.
Don't tell him!
I was a bit three woke up at 5 a.m
Went back to sleep for a little bit and then
Got in the car drove out here
Which was a little bit of an L for us because I really wanted to take the train
But drove out here
Napped again, and then I've been doing back-to-back interviews and also another panel earlier
That was more so like youth focused, but it was great. It was like packed it was so I have so much b-roll of the crowd
Yeah, it was crazy. I
Was like watching the crowd instead of watching you in the last
Fuck interview and everyone's name is boring. You're like, oh, this guy. No, it was just difficult to see
Yeah, too many people
Who's bubble put a water sign that absolutely fucks you
David, do you have cash on you?
No.
Can we pay with card?
Apple pay?
Oh, you have a card, right, David?
No, no, no, it's fine.
It's fine, it's fine.
Why is there a door on me?
It's not an old car.
Oh, thank you.
Wait, wait, don't show the...
Yeah.
Show the card.
No, no, we got it.
I think I will immediately just go back, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Leave you to what you do best when I leave chats.
Here, we'll film on that side real quick.
You can sit behind the chat.
Okay.
Well, don't show the...
Oh, sorry.
It's a yellow there.
It's a restaurant.
Okay.
Take off.
One second.
No, that's not working.
It's not working?
It's a visa.
A visa.
It's not working.
Visa, then normally work.
Okay.
I'll take the key.
Okay, show us.
Okay.
I'll take the key.
I'll take the key.
Okay.
I'll take the key.
I'll take the key.
I'll take the key.
Do you know about that one?
No.
Yes.
Uh.
Uh.
Yes.
Yes.
I'll put it all in here for you, please.
Did it work?
No.
Did it work?
It worked.
Yeah, it did.
Oh, damn.
OK, Sarah's got a Swiss mackerel.
She's a doctor.
No, but I'm a doctor with a Cigarilla.
Yeah.
So she doesn't, she's not breaded up like that.
So we also work at the mean average, like Magutanga, basically.
Oh yeah, we have stuff in the back.
Yeah.
Hey, Chad, I'm going to say goodbye.
Thanks for congratulating me.
And I'll be back typing soon.
Tell them to sign up for the party.
Yes, if you are in Belgium, please become a member,
become active, because we need everyone.
Becoming an active member, it's just like once a month
coming together in your neighborhood with comrades.
And it's super, you get so much energy out of it.
Look at me, look how much energy I have.
It's only since I joined the party.
So before, yeah.
David.
Carl.
Thank you, Hasan, for coming.
For us.
Having all this good publicity for us.
And yeah, I guess I will search a gap to go back.
All right.
OK, we're going to put the BRB screen real quick chat.
And then we will... Bye!
We're going to put the BRB screen real quick, and then we are going to set up on camera as well.
you
you
you
you
you
you
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That's good. Second and just time. Boom. All right, we're back. It wasn't a lie. We weren't
joking when when we said it's what just pull it out it doesn't matter the
camera's not on yet oh shit that's gonna be a little too oh not bad no that's not
bad at all okay all right we're back we're live we're live ladies and gentlemen
I am in the strangest hotel, the backdrop, the blue light. I mean, look at this. It's a very strange.
It's the strangest. It's the strangest hotel. It's the strangest hotel. Friendship ended with Dr.
new friend unlocked Dr. Sarah. Yeah. At least it's not back rooms anymore. Yeah, this is
a different kind of back rooms, I think. Okay, let's try it. Let's see if the major
well works this time. Okay, it does. Okay. All right. God damn,
look at the camera fucking difference between the integrated
camera on the laptop versus the versus the professional camera
That's crazy.
Anyway, behind me is the bed that I took a quick nap on
and I was so tired that I literally didn't even,
what Kami says, thank you for the gifted subs, holy moly.
God damn.
Okay, we are live.
We are alive.
Okay.
We're alive, we're alive.
You need to eat something?
I know I do.
Okay, don't be parasocial.
Don't be parasocial, chat.
Or no, this is your phone, isn't it?
No, it's my phone.
Okay.
Okay, all right come to Avante in Portugal next year come to Avante in Portugal next
year.
Okay.
I don't know what that is.
Okay.
I will say this, regardless of how crazy this hotel is, this hotel, it has significantly
better internet, which is wild.
It has far superior internet than the heart of fucking Brussels, Belgium.
You got your room, right?
You haven't gotten your room yet?
Oh, what the fuck?
Okay.
You're slacking you should have posted three meatpicks and
Thurshabs for the RNC by now.
Dude, I know, I know, I know, I'm fucking busy, man.
Give me a break.
All right, do we have a playlist?
The motse in tomorrow is Fette de Le Huma in France is a big French leftist convention.
Are you going guys?
What is happening?
Am I am I just like the guy who goes to all of the different like socialist conventions
around the world now is that they're just parading me around there like the here we
found the one American socialist guys.
parading me around like a like a beast of fancy.
Alright is this...
all right we're back chat it happened again it happened again you guys don't
understand I connected my iPhone to a free USB-C cable and it literally
bricked everything I'm not kidding when I say this I'm not kidding when I say
this it is like it breaks everything it breaks my monitor it broke my yeah I is
there a separate wall charger something I can use
Yeah, is there an outlet? Is there a separate outlet? Just plug it into the wall. There's
not an outlet chatter. We're using both of the outlets. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
I don't remember shit. US devices in EU devices don't work well together. Enjoy celebrate
on your phone what is that like what is it like stingray is it pegasus is that
why my fucking phone keeps crashing the entire electrical grid of the entire
city everywhere I go get rid of your iPhone is dangerous anyway why where is
this coming from guys the amount of people that came to watch me and the
and the party general secretary was was fucking nutty
wait oops
guess i deleted the mage wall
no it's fine i i i accidentally deleted it but i'm bringing it back now
okay
Yeah, it is legitimately shocking. I could not believe how many fucking fans how many
Hassan Abbey heads exist in Belgium is crazy. I could not believe it. It was socialism cello
up. You didn't congratulate. You didn't congratulate Dr. Sarah for graduating. You didn't nail
that social interaction. Oh my God, did you guys develop a parasocial relationship with
with Sarah in the in the short period of time. There's a man
not feel frank and peace boy.
What are they saying? Oh, fuck, I can't hear it. Fucking fuck,
fuck, fuck.
Oh, what is that?
The fuck?
Yes, that there is a festival.
Chat, what is this?
Chat, someone, someone, someone translate as a mom
This is a man named Theo Franke, a piss boy.
This is Hessen Piker and he is coming this weekend to talk at Mani Fiesta, that is a festival
of the PVDA.
And that was the instruction for Minister of Defense Theo Franke to put this post on X.
Theo Franke refers to a new law here that ensures that everyone who takes care of terror
is punished in our country.
What are they saying?
What is she saying bro?
Why can I understand? Yeah, it's like, it's like I can kind of understand what she's saying. It's freaking me out.
I feel like I'm not supposed to. I feel like I'm not supposed to understand what she's saying, right?
So why can I?
What the hell?
What the hell yantay you said this is house on piker
The left online streamer had a confrontation and even used this photo.
He's a progressive influencer and a megaphone for popular left politics in America.
Which, where he already has 3 million followers.
So he is the politician.
Big and not vice versa.
Like he said, along this...
We have an iron series problem.
In a podcast.
I'm a harm reduction voter.
I'm a lesser evil voter.
And therefore I would vote for Hamas over Israel every single time.
And he said a few years ago that the V.S.
would have earned the attack of 9-11.
But he did apologize for that.
Here the radical and provocative style is the source of his success, but what?
To not conclude that, he is a law-abiding in our country.
How do you want to be able to shock his statements?
There is always a legal difference between the appearance of extreme opinions and the terrible terror that Theo Franke is now covering.
He goddamn right. I follow shims every day and he's not nearly as extreme as a media accuser mode just because he's a socialist and thinks the state of Israel is worse than him.
Is that glorification of terrorism? Have we been wearing the blindness of the past four years? Hassan how? No lies were told.
If someone on the right were to shout the exact opposite, I feel like you would react far less sympathetically with this message.
However, I get the impression that you are almost semi-glorifying it glorifying his statements.
Bro, they use you as bait on Kierke.
Do you agree with when Hassan said racism is a non-issue?
Racism is an issue.
It's always an issue.
It's always an issue.
I completely agree with you.
What did you say is the biggest non-issue that people make out to be a man?
Yes, it's an issue.
Okay, great.
So I would say it's not a surprise what I said, racism.
And then obviously Hassan is an ultra extremist, he says he wants to bring back public executions.
Do you agree with that? Yes or no?
No. No, that's complicated.
That's complicated, yeah.
We should bring back, you know, public executions on certain people.
This guy is using me as bait for Kirkheads?
What the hell, bro? What the hell?
Obviously, Hassan is an extremist. Look at all of his extremist positions.
Well, no, it should be public. It should be quick. It should be televised. I'm so sorry
I did mix it up. Those are all things Charlie Kirk has said. So he said racism is a non-issue
But you guys disagree with you said he said that you wanted to bring back public executions and you guys
Disagreed with that. I guess thank you guys so much for your time. Yeah
After him talk about how we can't show compassion with childhood giddy about public execution
I'm thoroughly convinced
This is almost how all the people on that side are by the way amorphous blobs and form their opinions based on what their team is saying
Yeah, I mean is that surprising they they're calling it the kirk and switch no stop
top.
New Hassan ad running during a college football game.
During the OUUM game, 90s succumbed AI ad from Tech Crews frontline action portraying
Abdul El Sayed's sister in a Sampike or playing anti-American games.
This is me.
Wait, what the fuck?
Why did they game?
Is the AI making me more like
dog? I look Israeli in this.
Like the AI made me the AI for some reason made me Arab.
This ad is insane to me.
West isn't just a game for one, it's a mission.
His sister hates everything about America.
His pal Hassan Piker thinks America deserved 9-11, and his father-in-law founded a charity
tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.
What?!
El-Sanee isn't playing games, and his family believes a long from an issue.
The frontline action was responsible for the content of this advertising, created in
or in part with the use of artificial intelligence.
Maybe look like dove Charney.
Oh, I think he was talking about I'll do I'll say it's father-in-law.
For a second, I was like, I don't have a father-in-law.
What the fuck's this guy talking about?
Oh
Yeah, this was the crowd for one of the events. It was crazy man is actually crazy. Anyway, Steven Miller
Chirped about last night. We're gonna start there. We're gonna start there. We're gonna start there
Fox News still hasn't given up on the Hassan piker shit. It's kind of funny
At the pet on president Trump honored the brave men
Who wear the uniform and defend this country every day including those in the Middle East working to ensure that Iran
will never ever obtain a nuclear weapon. Take a look.
In the generation since 9-11, American sons and daughters have traveled to the darkest corners of the Earth
and done battle with a shadowy enemy so that our children might once again know carefree days and cloudless skies.
For 25 years, our best and bravest have kept America safe, and today we salute every member
of the United States military who served in the War on Terror.
It is a war on sick, horrible terror.
We salute our first responders and law enforcement, and we love them.
And we salute the service members working right now to ensure the world's number one
sponsor of terror, the Islamic Republic of Iran will never ever have a nuclear weapon.
Here with more Deputy White House Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Advisor Stephen
Miller as well as, you know, Stephen, we got an election in 53 days.
Since 2019, we've had 250 DSA members that have been elected.
We have over 40 of them like El Sayed on the ballot in Michigan.
What their stated printed agenda is, is on their website, defund the Department of War.
They also want amnesty for illegals to abolish borders, no more deportations, etc.
They don't even want, they want to abolish prisons, police, cash bail, never mind where
they stand on shredding the Constitution by eliminating the Senate, packing the courts,
eliminating our ability to pick a president, and of course, cradle to grave Green New Deal.
The Parbarian War?
What?
Cradle to grave Green New Deal?
What does that even mean?
Like, I, I, what, what is, what, what is this new modifier to the Green New Deal?
I thought it was scary alone as it is.
as scary now as it is.
How naive and stupid can these people be?
To me, they want to fundamentally shred
every bit of what made this country,
the great country it is,
that to me is what's on the ballot in 53 days.
That's exactly what is on the ballot, Sean.
the president outlined in his address at the convention yesterday and the day before.
Did he nail that social interaction chat?
I did.
The Democrat Party has embraced the platform of individuals who fundamentally hate America
and hate Americans.
You and I have talked about this before.
Abdul Osayed in Michigan campaigned with, sought the endorsement of, and why is he talking
like this?
I'm not sure. I'm not weird, right? Like, he's, he actually sounds weird, right? He's
like slowing down his speech I don't know what the fuck is going on and promoted along
with Bernie Sanders a man named Hassan Piker who is the new consultant and strategist for
the Democrat Party what is the man they are leaning on to choose their policy okay first
of all I'm not a fucking consultant you bald fuck this is the worst thing you can call
me. Yeah, I should do a blast off your right. That's his dictator's speech pattern. It sounds
He's got a dick in his tater. I don't even know what that means. I just said it, but I don't even know what that means
Small head
Fucked up guys. That's obviously Photoshop edited.
Um, are you a dog chocolate I've got no I like milk chocolate like I like white chocolate
Um, and I like milky.
Streamer award nominations are live and you haven't held one phone bank for it.
guys. I don't know if you know this, but I've been kind of
fucking busy. I'm gonna do it though.
I'm gonna do it.
I know I listened to it already.
Fun.
Reacts.
Get in now.
I have doorknock for 25 doors for Angie Nixon today, 50 tomorrow, all right, hell yeah.
Here, I'm a blast off, I'm a blast off to let the people know that we're live and we're live because I forgot to do that.
to do that.
I saw a Sompiker at Carvana buying a 2019 Subaru Cross Trek in lithium red pearl.
He rolled his eyes at me and called me a DEI SoyCut EV baby under his breath.
After I said hello and asked for a photo, he proceeded to spill his iced coffee on the blue polar shirt of my Carvana loan specialist and stormed out of the showroom.
He's my biggest inspiration and the experience was disappointing to say the least
Why I saved you I
Saved you from getting a fucking Carvana loan is that like a copy pasta that also is like an ad for Carvana
What the fuck's going on?
Never meet your heroes. Yeah
I can't tell if that's parasocial or if you just really love a good bag.
if you google yourself the meat becomes up as a suggestion wait what no it
doesn't. Why is this the fucking first photo that comes out
is so weird.
Jim.
What the fuck?
What are they saying?
Are they talking shit?
Or I love activism, you the rest of the parkers coming up with Dan for Manon Piesta, which
statements make him controversial.
E. O. Franken.
Searches on P. I'm not searching that.
Dude, is it I'm all over apparently I'm all over Belgium
news. I had no idea.
I guess it's kind of funny because it's like,
I guess, I guess I'm all over the American news as well, so.
Oh, press enters and suggestion.
Never Google yourself man. There's no, that's just, you Googled it. Jeremy Corvin's coming
too. Belgium is really small. So you're like the biggest thing happening. Yeah, Tucker Carlson
is backing on the loss and
they're gonna be like, um, I'll tell us that you do about Tucker Carlson.
Oh, my God, I hope they don't do another fucking dumb ass media cycle on that shit.
Bobble Mendez straight. Bobble Mendez. Yeah, Jeremy Corbin's coming here right now in like the next 10 to 20 to 30 minutes.
And I will be talking to him about Corbinization.
bubble Mendez
says to get support for their candidates Hassan Piker said that America and Americans deserve
911 Sean you and I had dude it's so funny that these guys basically have moved beyond
like what I said you know fuck the the fact that I apologize like I don't expect them to
to take ownership over that. But it is pretty wild that they have at this point, like they've
moved on from saying like a son said, a mergers are not 11 to like a son said, nine 11 was
awesome and should happen every day. While also taking ownership over the fact that he
might have been responsible for nine 11. It's like, yeah, you might as well just make more
more shit up. You know, I have seen and we can never erase the memory, the videos of
Americans leaping to their deaths from the towers to escape. I will say this, this year
is tenure around and reception around 9 11 has was noticeably different. I will say that
I don't know how the normies received it, and I wasn't in America.
I wasn't in America, so like, I only saw Twitter.
And Twitter was far more serious about it this year.
And I think it's because they're politicizing 9-11.
I think it is because this year, 9-11 became a useful tool to attack a bunch of Muslim,
some socialists, some not socialists, candidates, and I suspect that's the reason why, because
like for the last 25 years, especially for the last like 20 years, most like public figures
would have like the solemn approach, and ultimately there was like, there was definitely, you
there was definitely coverage around the memorial, but the coverage around the memorial wasn't as
serious either. Like they would just show the politicians dabbing each other up, shit like that.
But then there's also, there was also far more conspiracy.
Like everyone, everyone went crazy this year around 9-11 it seems. Like there were people who are,
I saw more conspiracy theories about 9-11. Like I saw new conspiracy theories about 9-11. It's been
25 years and you know, I just like everybody else who was having their political awakening,
saw all of those documentaries at the time, you know, loose change, that kind of thing.
And I was genuinely confused that there were new shit that I didn't know, like new metas
that I didn't know.
You know, the classics are like power seven, jet fuel is incapable of melting steel beams.
There were controlled demolitions in the lobby and there's some that are like, you know,
You know the ones, was it Mossad, Larry Silverstein, some that are, you know, a little bit more
directional, not in the Muslim direction, but let's just say in a different direction,
right?
So there's all these different conspiracy theories, but there was new shit that I had
not seen before.
Like people talking about no planes, hologram, people saying planes weren't real.
They were missiles.
I saw the missile one.
That was crazy.
I don't know if you guys saw that one.
So yeah.
Project blue beam theories are not new.
The missile one's not new.
Okay.
Well, there's, you know, crazy shit.
Yeah, bro.
No playing all missile.
You understand me?
No playing all missile.
I am certain that by fire flame and wait certain to escape certain certain
I
Ha certain
Death by fire on the towers run again run escape certain death
Sorry, buddy
You can't try to make a serious plea here. You can't take a serious tone
If you say shit like certain
by fire, flame, and smoke. We've heard the stories of people making their final
phone calls from the Twin Towers from those airplanes. A political party that
gets into bed with, that finds common cause with, that joins in concert with, a
man who says they had a coming and they deserved it, is a party that in a
country of conscience should get zero votes, zero votes, Sean. I can't believe we're having
this conversation. Twenty-five years after 9-11 and you have Democrats preaching hatred
for America and pledging to abolish long-
Oh, choking on his own spit.
Are you ready?
You abolish ICE? That means terrorists have free reign to get into America and maim and
murder Americans. Our enemies all over the world are trying to slip in through our airports,
slip in through our borders, slip in through our visa programs, every day to murder Americans.
ICE and CBP are the-
Every day, bro, is real. He's so right. People are trying to slip through our visa programs
with the express purpose of murdering americans every day this is happening
shaw
they're slipping into my wife
all have you know
the other day
and undocumented immigrant
was slipping into my wife
he had a barrel chest
and incredibly pasty skin
and i had to sit there shaw
and i sat down
and i started
stroking my shit extra hard Sean and this undocumented immigrant Sean he
turned around to me and he said oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you're here Sean he had a
strange accent that I'd never heard before as he was slipping in and out of
my wife that's right and he kept saying legalized comedy legalized
comedy and I had to sit there and stroke my shit I had to go beast mode on my
shit Sean I was smacking it up and down are you listening Sean my wife was
getting fucked by an undocumented immigrant Sean his name was Elon Musk
that's right
The front lines keeping Americans safe, the Democrat party fundamentally has sided with
the jihadists in the war on terror.
That's where we are right now.
Well, let me add a little context to this.
Maybe your Senate candidate or House candidate is not as radical in speech as Abdul al-Syad
or James Tallarico or Troy Jackson, maybe not. However, there's a phenomenon that's
been going on, and that is, is not a single elected Democrat but poor John Fetterman that
is willing to take them on. So maybe Sherrod Brown doesn't speak the language of Abdul
El Sayed and Tallarico. Maybe John Offsup doesn't. However, are they going to stand
up against them? Because as of today, not one elected Democrat, but for one, you know,
has had the willingness, the courage, the moral clarity to do so. So you might as well be voting
for El Sayed if you vote for Sherrod Brown or John Ossoff or any of the people in the Democratic
Party. Well, that's the key point, Sean. If you vote for one, you vote for them all. Sherrod Brown
has never stood up to Chuck Schumer and the Democrats in his entire career because Sherrod
Brown is a spineless coward and Osof is a spineless coward they coward to and cater to the Osof
extremist element in their party and a political party that wants to abolish ice to fund police
abolish cvp abolish border patrol is saying come and get us jihadists that's your choice to selection
choose wisely america choose safety security choose america first all right steven miller is always
Thank you. What is this? Steve Wittkopf.
Turned out to inflation. Prices rising for Americans across the country. Diesel
hitting an all-time high at six dollars a gallon. So let's bring in ABC's
Jacqueline Lee from Los Angeles. Jacqueline, break down these numbers for
us. Rachel, good morning. And it's not just diesel
prices. It's the prices you pay at the pump. 609 behind me. This coming as consumer sentiment
or how people feel about the economy dropped seven and a half percent in the last month.
Americans battle high food and gas prices.
We're so fucked, dude.
We're so unbelievably fucked.
you hear about the warm welcome Trump got in Ireland wait he's just trying to
come he's trying to be close to me bro you see this shit remember has it this
the reenactment of Elon slipping into Stephen Miller's wife dog what the fuck
did you just send me I've never seen a tick-tock that is like audience
controlled before in my entire life did you just send me straight porn a little
bit of porno on this delightful Saturday afternoon slash Saturday night for me. A little bit
of porno on Tik Tok, dude. You trying to get today's VOD clap too? What's up, man? Just
a little porno rooney like I'm Ted Cruz on 9 11 just spanking my monkey okay
stroking my shit jorgen my peanuts that's right look it up Ted Cruz Ted Cruz
was caught watching porn on 9 11
I thought it was just like one random guy was not expecting the entire crowd to be screaming
Ted you suck to thunderous applause.
Oh my god.
Oh my God.
I thought this would be just like one guy that one beer made you has made you
hilarious.
Thank you.
All it takes sometimes.
Yep.
A little bit of porno runny.
Just a little bit of porno runny, please.
Hello.
I am Theodore Rafael Eduardo Cruz.
And I would like to watch a little bit of porno Rooney for me. What is happening? I find them bubble Jim Tron the life. I'm life
My dad is so funny
Yeah, Ted Cruz was jerking off the incest porn
Ted Cruz was stroking his shit sexual style
Stroking his shit sexual style down abysmal
Down abysmal
on
911
That's right, back when likes were public.
Ted Cruz was cracking it dude, was going nutty mode.
He was being draconian on his shit dude.
He was going American criminal justice system style beating that ass.
Beating his meat.
Hello, do you have anything else that I can eat?
I don't know, what is it?
So, for example, every player...
That is incredible.
I'm not gonna lie.
It requires tremendous discipline to be able to
continue talking through the crowd screaming at you.
They're saying, hey, look, look behind me, the crowd is saying, the crowd is saying,
Teddy Rock, they're saying, let's, let's go, Brandon, let's go Ted, classic.
Was he able to hear it, brother?
is impossible for him not to hear that. Anyway, never forget. We never forgot. Here's Theodore
Eduardo Jedediah Raphael Cruz on 9 11. Ted Cruz Twitter account likes pornographic tweet.
Mary Tech Center who once defended a ban on sex toys asked to explain how his account
came to like the graphic post. This is back when Twitter was popping to that she was awesome.
I miss all Twitter so much
This morning all eyes on the feds upcoming interest rate decision as the new inflation report shows a mere ban on sex
Always why because he's Christian dude Christian sharia
Can't believe you said this cannot believe that Hassan said this innocent American job deserve 9-11. Okay, dude
it's funny. That's me, by the way. Oh God, Republicans are going to find that and be
like, see, he was scouting the location of his active terror even at the early age of
four. Look at him. Here you have a terrorist and his terrorist father scouting out the
location
where he will inevitably
attack
by the way newswire is such shit look at this
has some piker faces one hundred fifty million dollar florida lawsuit over
alleged incitement of violence
no it's over anti-semitism but you knew that if you wrote that people would
dunk on you
so you wrote this instead
newswire another uh... polly market
another uh... uh... uh... polly market uh... account
god they are uh... they are just becoming my ops every day
rickens battling rising prices on food and gas inflation overall of point four
percent compared to a month ago
diesel prices hitting another record on friday
Soaring past $6 a gallon due to the war with Iran.
Farmers feeling the pain in the heart of harvest season.
The machine behind me uses 200 gallons a day.
We have to harvest, we have to run the machines,
we have to use the diesel.
So bottom line is it cuts into our bottom line.
And the price of gas up 3.9% in August.
The national average per gallon of gas
sitting at $4.30, jumping 18 cents in a week,
according to GasBuddy.
truck drivers hauling goods across the country,
frustrated and feeling the pinch.
When these prices just skyrocket like this,
it takes food out of the mouths of your children.
All they have money for is filling up.
And then they have to get cash advances and stuff for food
and it's rough, it sucks.
Economists warn high diesel prices mean
higher costs for shipping goods.
This will hit the wallets of Americans
as the price of everyday items go up.
These prices will have an impact
on things like produce, things like product that's coming in from overseas and even domestic
products.
With inflation sitting at 3.4 percent, the latest government data showing paychecks aren't
keeping up.
Wages down 0.3 percent compared to a year ago when adjusted for inflation.
And next week, allies will be on Fed Chair Kevin Warche.
Will he or won't he raise interest rates based on the latest government data?
Investors believe he will.
the decision will impact borrowing costs, everything from car loans, credit card rates
and mortgages.
All right, we'll stand by for news on that.
Jack and Lee, we appreciate it.
This morning, President Trump arrives in Ireland and let's be real.
Let's be real.
He wants to be close to your boy.
Okay.
He's like, Hassan, you escaped.
You escaped America on 9-11 this day.
Therefore we must also come to the continent of Europe.
I will come and follow you into Ireland first and I will come and follow you into Belgium
afterwards.
This is how the Irish welcome Trump.
Oh, I saw this.
This is really funny.
Crowds gathered in Dublin to protest Trump's visit to Ireland with demonstrators using
imagery featuring Trump, Epstein and then Yahoo to voice their criticism.
of voice their criticism.
Is that Patrick star butt fucking Trump too?
What is happening?
I mean, this is brilliant.
It's also a daily site, a daily occurrence.
Now we know why he needs diabetes.
True.
President Trump on the ground in Ireland for a weekend at his own golf resort.
His arrival comes against the backdrop of a global economy that is feeling the effects
of the war in Iran.
President Trump meeting with Ireland's Prime Minister as well as President Catherine Connolly
with trade at the top of the agenda.
President Trump flew to Dublin aboard the new Air Force One gifted to him by the Qatari
government.
This is the president's first international flight on the jet since security concerns
prompted him to secretly switch planes while departing the NATO summit in Turkey back in
July.
And just this week, an emergency slide accidentally inflated on the same plane at Joint Base Andrews.
President Trump's visit, triggering one of the biggest security operations Ireland has
ever launched, with more than 10,000 police officers working 12-hour shifts this weekend
alone.
This as thousands are expected to protest the visit, upset over the situation in Gaza
and Trump's war with Iran.
The majority of the people of our world know all from here.
Others say the relationship with Washington is too important to risk.
I think it's important that the bond with our good friends in the United States stays
strong.
Just a short time ago, President Trump held a joint news conference with Ireland's Prime
Minister and during the news conference he said that he would like to see a unified Ireland,
that it's something that will eventually happen.
And those comments will undoubtedly spark a great deal of debate here in Ireland as
President Trump heads to his resort in the western coast to attend the Irish Open.
Rachel.
Okay, yeah, we'll be tracking it all.
Okay, Marcus, thank you.
Thanks for the joke to us.
I don't think he reflects any of the values that we hold close here in Ireland.
But I understand it's a difficult situation for the government.
The government has to be diplomatic and I guess cordial to some extent.
But I think the people don't want them here.
And yeah, I'm not happy personally, but what can you do?
Well, I suppose as the President of the United States,
he should be accorded the kind of respect any other political leader is.
Despite what you know, there's lots of different political leaders around the world
There shouldn't be a red carpet for some because you agree with their political agenda and then the rest of them
If we're living in a society we used to in Ireland any of free speech
Thank you. She'll be welcome here
Okay, there it is, all right, all right, right here.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, Jeremy Corbyn in the building, very exciting to have you
live on the broadcast.
Let's see.
I need to tweak the audio levels a little bit.
Don't worry about that.
Let's see if this works.
Is that working?
I don't- I don't- oh.
I think this is maybe a little bit too loud. Hold on.
Okay. I think this is good, right? Is it peaking too hard, chat?
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Yes, it's perfect.
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Yes, it's perfect. Jeremy Corbyn is in the building, ladies and gentlemen.
You were also at the Manifesta.
Just come down there.
Event and you wanted to grace us with your presence.
This is very exciting. We hung out earlier today for about an hour,
But that was off stream that was before we went live and I asked if Jeremy would want to come on the broadcast
This is your first time live on the broadcast actually. Yes, I realize this is not our first time hanging out with one another
We've we met in Cuba
We were supposed to link up in the UK, but of course I was unfortunately banned from entering the country by
Shabana Mahmood
Which you know, not a great decision
Having said that, however, we're here in Belgium together.
What were you doing?
You had a panel?
Yes.
I had a very interesting day, actually.
We had a poetry panel this afternoon in which we were discussing the poetry and politics.
We chose poems to read and then describe why we had chosen what we'd read.
I chose a Palestinian poem and a poem I'd written myself, which is about drought and
about Palestine, drought in Europe and Palestine, suffering permanent problems because of the
Israeli occupation of Gaza.
And that was, a lot of people came to that, it was very interesting to do, and Peter Merton
has also read some poetry here, written, that he's the general secretary of the Workers'
perhaps I'm obviously a very important figure in the whole Manifesto. I don't know if the
viewers are kind of aware of what Manifesto is. Can you explain to them? Because I don't
even know what it is exactly. What I know is it's the Workers' Party throwing together
a festival that's not like socialist in character, but it's not an expressly socialist event.
You know, musicians, artists, there's sporting events.
The idea comes from the Fête de Humanité, which is held in Paris every year, which was
originally just a Communist Party event, but it was always a massive festival of the left
with a lot of food, a lot of stalls and so on.
And then that's developed into a much broader thing.
And it's usually on a different weekend to Manifesta.
Manifesta has now been going for, I think, 14 years.
And it's designed to be something that is of the party,
the workers' party, and of the left.
And so there are political rallies and so on.
But it's very open and very welcoming
to a lot of other groups and parties
and debate and discussion.
But crucially, it also involves music, sports
young people or sports or old people, all of them, as well as discussion, debate, books,
food and everything else. So you can come here and spend the whole day here, going around
all the stalls and so on. It's absolutely fascinating. There's a huge variety of people
that come. And I find it quite inspiring. And this year is the biggest ever. And that
to understand is due to you. So we're also in a huge thank you Hassan for coming to Manifesto.
The Minister of Defence apparently doesn't think you should be here. And so he then got
on the media as you know and made lots of statements attacking you and Manifesto and
everything else. And the result was it's now massively over subscribed and completely
It's fulfilling all the safety regulations, of course, but it's now completely false.
Are you compliant?
I'm totally compliant, my friend.
I'm always very cautious.
And then later on today, we had a very interesting launch of our book on the Gaza Tribunal, which
you've got one here, I gave this one to you.
This is Gaza Tribunal. Should I explain about it?
Yeah, of course.
Last year, I, like many other people, very angry about the way in which the Palestinian
people have been treated, in particular the bombing of Gaza has gone on, and Britain's
complicity in it through the sale of aircraft parts for the F-35 jets, the over-flying by
the RAF of Gaza, and the use of the base in the sovereign base, the British sovereign
base in Cyprus, RAF Acroateria. And so I asked lots of questions in Parliament about the
sale of arms and parts and so on, and dissatisfied with the answers. And so I felt that we needed
a public inquiry and put in a private member's bill, which is me applying for legislation,
got through the first stage of the bill being printed for consideration discussions. It
was a properly drafted and prepared piece of legislation. This was then blocked at the
second stage by the government, preventing it from being debated because private member's
can only be debated on Fridays when Parliament is sitting and it doesn't sit every Friday.
And so I said, okay, I wasn't surprised by this, so we'll organise our own tribunal.
And so we booked a church house in Westminster, held it over two days, 29 expert witnesses
from doctors, aid workers, residents of Gaza, international lawyers, people that have observed
the over-flying whole range of people. And then put it out there as a report at the end
of the two-day hearing. We've now turned it into a book which is selling well because
it leads to people having a discussion about their country's involvement in this case.
It's Britain but it applies to others. And the book is selling well and I was very happy
and very pleased to be able to give you a copy of it. And you could obviously use the
information in it. So Hassan, thanks for your diligence and your determination to get to the
truth, to give voice to the Palestinian people and those people under oppression. Thank you for
what you do. Thank you. As I said, it's a real honor to have you here and thank you for the kind
words. We are at Man Fiesta. I just did a podcast interview kind of thing. I don't know. We were in a glass box with Peter and that was wonderful. It was a lot of fun.
Well, that's the one where we were in the glass box and the crowd's outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can see them applauding but you can't hear them. Yeah. It was a strange experience. But yeah, I felt like the Pope.
The Pope.
The Pope-mobile.
Yeah, and the Pope-mobile inside of this glass box.
But I think it's really important to learn from the successes and the attempts of other
socialist parties and also to maintain international solidarity.
Well, successes, yes, electorate and so on, because that's only half the story.
The thing about the Workers' Party in Belgium and Manifesta is that the whole party, in
my understanding of it, is totally based in the community.
It's not a party that was inspired by a group of politicians in Brussels deciding what to
do.
This is grassroots stuff, and it bubbles up, which is exactly what we're trying to do in
your party in Britain to develop from the grassroots going up.
politics at the end of the day is what happens in your community and how you
can mobilize people like that and that means in Belgium the far right they
exist they're here but they're far far less influential and powerful than they
are in France, Germany, Spain or Italy so that is a credit to the workers party.
Yeah, absolutely. And I do think it's fascinating that they have not only a focus on helping
people directly with their medicine court people's medics that operate in numerous districts,
but also the event itself is very cool because it's not just about, you know, rigorous academic
debate, even though there is some of that as well, and because I mean they kept asking
me this question as well, we're like, oh well, you know, you've talked about the importance
of having fun while, you know, talking about these issues, and I do think it's very important
for creating a sense of community and also welcoming newcomers into the, into the organization,
to also developing a deeper appreciation of their communities by...
I met some young people today.
Never heard of it before, until it was attacked on the television.
So they said, well, let's go.
So they came.
That's cool.
I love that.
And they said they were really enjoying it.
And so if people coming to Manifesta as young people or parents with kids and so on,
and finally have a good time, and are inspired by lots of things,
that's what politics should be about. Politics is about life, art, poetry, music,
economic science, it's everything. I thought it was about sitting around and
collecting checks from lobbyists. I thought it was about your proximity
to Jeffrey Epstein affiliates and Jeffrey Epstein in general. I never get off at any of that stuff.
I'm in the Epstein files. I assume they talk about you negatively.
I'm in the Epsom files and the way I put it is like this.
I'm the only person in the Epsom files that's proud to be there.
Because they talk about how to get rid of me.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, that's actually kind of what I wanted to talk about a little bit because
like I told you this earlier but I am in the process of what is now known as a Corbinization
where...
We get over it.
It's very painful.
Yeah.
They come after you. Well, it's a very different media environment very different political environment right now
Then when you were being attacked for those of you who don't know
Corporation I'll use this term. I don't know if he'll agree with it or not is when
You're simply trying to do what's best for the working class and fighting hard
And also happen to have a moral position that opposes genocide occupation apartheid and ethnic cleansing
which is at odds with some powerful forces and they attack you mercilessly for being
a socialist, being someone who opposes the Israeli occupation and they call you an anti-Semite
endlessly.
I'm going to hit you with the question that I'm sure you might have been asked before,
but perhaps maybe this is your first time.
What was the funniest thing that they accused you of doing or being?
And I'll tell you what mine was from your
Corbanization period.
One of the populist, but completely crap-pop papers,
wrote of a story to say that when I was eight years old,
eight years old on Christmas Day, so this would have been
eight years old, this would about to be 1957, that I was given a pogo stick by my parents
and I went down the road on this pogo stick on Christmas Day and killed a baby rabbit
by jumping on it with my pogo stick.
They wrote about that?
Yes.
Was this a real story?
Did this happen?
The only problems with the story is that I've never had a pogo stick in my life.
Okay.
My mom and dad never gave me a pogo stick, so that's a difficulty with the story.
New story.
The other one.
Did Corbin's mom and dad prevent imminent disaster of rabbits by refusing boba shan dalamam.
You just talked about them over the last time.
OK.
Did Jeremy Corbyn's mom and dad avert
imminent disaster of rabbits by refusing
to give Corbyn Pogos day?
The other question, I'm sure many people are watching,
is to be well aware of the seasonal breeding
habits of rabbits.
I don't think they are aware of that.
Is that like a British thing?
Is that do British people know the seasonal rabbits?
breeding habits of rabbits? I don't know. Animals breed usually in the spring to give
their offspring the best chance of survival in the warm or rather in the summer. To have
a baby rabbit on Christmas Day would be unusual, if not rather odd. You've got it there. Teenage
Corbin squashed my sister's baby rabbit with his Pogo 6C at that. Horror on Christmas morning, 1962.
Well, they didn't get the date wrong. 62, you see, they would have been, by that time,
Oh my goodness, that'd have been 13.
So my-
I think to be an apogio is taking 13.
Yeah.
Well, that's why you were capable of squashing this rabbit
and murdering this lady's rabbit.
So that's actually, I mean, that is incredible.
It's better than mine.
Mine is the Mao bike, Maoist bicycle.
Oh, the Maoist bicycle, yeah.
Yeah.
They set this one called,
we're going to ride the Maoist basket
where it is constituency.
Our initial reply was it's just a bicycle.
And then I thought, hang on a minute, I went to check on my bike, my bicycle, it's a track bike.
Yeah.
It's blue, it's heavy, it's made of steel.
The long track.
Long, you've got it, you've got it, you've got it, but...
Was he on a bike when he was doing the long march?
We don't know.
He was walking, he was walking.
He was walking, definitely walking, we think.
But I checked up, the bike was making time one.
Wow.
and they're not keen on Mao in Taiwan.
No, so it was a KMT bike, actually.
Isn't that crazy?
Why did they say it was a Maoist bike?
I don't even remember.
Well, any bus is a Maoist bike to them.
God, I love that one.
That was so amazing.
Now, it's really interesting because like,
obviously, we were, I mean,
I've always been a big fan of yours
and I was very frustrated when this stuff was happening.
Little did I know that
Almost a decade after I would be the recipient of
identical smear campaigns for almost identical reasons as a matter of fact both socialist and also
For my criticisms of Israel
Yeah
It's it's really the time is really about Palestine. Yeah. No for sure. Yeah, absolutely
Yeah, Chairman Mao style bicycle
I just don't understand like it's interesting they put that with the
black and white photo yeah but it this is like the photo I mean it just like
doesn't look like a like I don't even understand what the malice character
character is I actually I mean I don't know if I should reveal this on live
television. I've actually got two bicycles. That's the lap of luxury. Jeremy Corbyn admits
bourgeois decadence. Two bicycles. Yeah, it's brilliant. Yeah, I don't know, there's too
much bike. Too much bike. But anyway, the serious point about this is the way in which
the media can, I mean this is kind of so stupid, it's funny. Wait, oh, then there's a cultural
of all of the solutions are reeducated for anyone who says Corbyn rides Chairman Malbide.
Chairman Corbyn said anybody who believes he rides a Chairman Malbide school needs to
be reeducated. As he revealed, he never thought he would become labor leader. So when you
responded to people and you said, you guys are, you know, you guys are mental for this,
they said he wants, dude, okay, this is so much worse, never mind. There's no, there's,
I have not been there since the end of the day.
The systemic abuse was incredible.
After the 2019 election, what I always do on election day is buy all the newspapers.
Buy one copy of every newspaper on election day.
I don't buy them every day.
Jeremy Corbyn, Chairman Corbyn, hordes all newspapers, wants no one to read the press, the free press.
I'm going to buy them all up and it's going to be all that. That's not my idea, I suppose.
But anyway, I took them all, took them home, and on the Sunday after the election, I went
through them, and the Daily Mail had 14 pages of attacks on me on polling day.
Fourteen pages!
And the Conservative Party, we believe, which it wasn't clear where they'd come from, put
up posters outside polling stations in marginal constituencies in semitone
black and white the picture of me looking glum and some children around
saying would you trust this man with your children. This is the level of
attack but the systematic attack on an individual means that you've got to make
decision. Do you respond to every one of these absurd and crazy things or do you
just ignore it and try and get a more positive media message out there? And I
see a copy you got up there of the New York Post with Zoran on a bicycle.
Cycle of hate. Zo Snubs Israel parade. Goes on bike ride instead. There you go.
Yeah, he was biking anti-Semitic Lee oh
God, so that's and it is a question of how we deal with the media and
You're going through it
Zoran goes through it anyone that stands up for anything different goes through it now that one that picture you've got there is
Emily Laitlis and me
That's me on a program. I didn't appear in
That News Night is a special BBC program every night. It's quite an important news
program. And they had a picture of me superimposed on the Kremlin in Moscow. And the whole program
was discussing my alleged failure to stand up to the Russians and be a Russian spy, agent
or something. And this superimposed picture of me in front of the Kremlin.
Isn't it interesting how? I've actually been in the Kremlin, I walked past
it once when I was on a human rights delegation visit to Moscow.
Sorry about that. You did gold, so they got you there.
What about the hat?
Are they saying it's like a...
It's a Lenin-style hat.
Yeah, it's a Lenin-style hat.
It actually comes from the caps that was over the Greek war in the great films over the Greek.
Oh, wow.
It's Greek.
Okay.
Well, I mean...
I was not watching at all.
Also, who cares if you wore a Lenin-style hat?
That hat is awesome.
What if it's a Lenin-style hat?
Yeah, it's a nice hat.
The hat that he wears is cool, it's drippy.
I saw it off a chap on a street stall in my constituency.
it was seven pounds, I got it for nine.
You shorted him, you shorted it,
you offered him a discount.
Yeah, you pressured him with your mind-control powers
to get a hat for nine pounds instead of 10.
He offered me a discount.
What won't Jeremy Corbyn do?
So what I was thinking is like, I mean, look,
it's interesting, because I'm obviously
in the middle of this right now.
The funniest one that I've received, of course,
is the naked photos of me at the Republican Convention.
I don't know if you saw this.
They're streaking through the convention
and you're all together.
Oh, you guys didn't see this?
And you've been taking it?
It wasn't my birthday.
I was wearing underwear.
But I wasn't streaking.
Here, let's, well, I guess I'm going
to show Jeremy Corbyn a photo of me in my underwear.
Don't worry, it's blurred.
RNC or convention Republican
Convention Hassan Piker
Wall Street Journal Hassan Piker laughs off Republicans use of underwear picture at convention
Hassan Piker the controversy for our left online commentator got some airtime during Wednesday's Republican Convention a photo of Piker in his underwear
pulled up from his social media was posted during a video montage aimed at
depicting the leftist radical. They posted a photo of me on the Jumbotron
advocate.com. Hassan Packer's meat pic was on full display at the Republican
National Convention. There it is. On the Jumbotron. I don't like the color. You
You don't like the color?
What, the color of the underwear?
The color of the underwear.
Nothing green suits you better.
Yeah.
But this is what they were showing.
This is what they were showing at the Republican convention.
For two nights in a row, actually.
No, it's not true that it didn't happen.
No, no, this is actually something that happened.
But you were there in your underwear.
No, I wasn't there in my underwear.
They were posting...
This is a photo montage of me.
and one of the photos that they used was me in my underwear with a mirror selfie, flexing.
That is probably the most insane thing that they've done so far. That's the most insane thing
that they've done so far, I think. But what's interesting is, you know, with Bernie Sanders,
your American counterpart when he was achieving some success early on in the
primaries in 2020 and they did this in 2016 as well but in 2020 they got really
crazy because he he was actually marking victories and there was no real
establishment opposition candidate that they could consolidate support around
before Joe Biden, before Barack Obama made some phone calls and told everyone else to
drop out and endorse Joe Biden. And then Joe Biden won South Carolina and went on the win
Super Tuesday. But those first couple of months...
But until then, Bernie was winning big time except in Florida, wasn't he?
Yeah, so...
But they got a bad result, but all the others. And then, as you say, South Carolina was the...
south carolina was that was it was the the guaranteed lock for joe biden anyway
but they made it seem like it was a spectacular victory
but the reason i bring it up is because when that was happening to bernie
chris matthews i still remember
on i think msnbc
was complaining that bernie sanders a jewish man
uh... was actually bringing out the brown shirts
and was going to engage in like fascist style
Nazi-style violence. They also said that Bernie Sanders would bring out the gallows at Central Park
and assassinate everyone on Wall Street. This was a sincere commentary about a kind old man
who just wanted to give people health care. And because of the achievements that he had made
in the primaries early on and because he was becoming a real threat this is how
mainstream media disparaged him this is how they attacked them so I guess my
question is do you feel like and he had to apologize for it as well by the way
Chris Matthews apologized the Bernie Sanders remarks on Nevada when on-air
comparison analysis angered Sanders aids who privately complained to executives
MSNBC. Do you feel like the environment is different? We have independent media now?
I think we've got to get across this issue. If you and I were seeing here, 25 years ago,
well we probably wouldn't have been sitting here, we wouldn't have had all this technology.
Just imagine we were in the studio discussing things. We would have had much less access
to news media outlets. There would be fewer of them and they would be slightly more balanced
than they are at the moment. Here we are now. Every newspaper is basically turned itself
into a quasi-TV channel with its online stuff. The long-term media channels Fox and so on
are still there and very powerful. And then you have this huge number of people as self-appointed
citizen reporters, etc., etc., and algorithms working on social media. And so you end up
wondering where the information comes from. The difference between information and opinion
is nil, so you can't always tell the difference between an opinion story and a factual story.
And so the news becomes hard to follow and quite confusing. Add to that that in the case
of Britain, and I shouldn't imagine it's much different in the USA, the people who
watch, seriously watch television or listen to radio news would be over 50 or even over
60. Under 40, very little television is watched at all. All information is picked up on mobile
phones and it's picked up from social media. So you get a story going out which then becomes
a fact, even when it's completely untrue.
I'll give you an example.
2019 election, we picked up during the campaign.
We were getting a lot of hostility
from ex-service people's families.
Now, that has not been my experience.
I've met and worked with a lot of ex-military.
You've got profound mental health and poverty problems,
for lots of reasons.
What we discovered was that there had been a creation of a message that I was about to
abolish the armed forces in their entirety.
And this was then amplified in massive WhatsApp groups amongst ex-service people.
And it must have had some effect.
Where did the story start?
And at some point I pointed out that we needed not to abolish the armed forces, but to recognize
they had great skills.
And I gave an example that could be helpful in dealing with emergencies around the world.
I gave an example of the very good work done in the Ebola crisis in most Africa some years
ago.
talking to some of the military who came back, I met them when they came to Parliament. They're
very interesting talk to. You know, they said, it's the most useful thing I've ever done in my life.
From that, suddenly or other, I then morph into somebody who wants to abolish the whole thing.
And then once the story's out there, you end up being defensive against the indefensible.
Yeah. And when you were scattered the same. Of course. And there's always this dynamic
we're like, do I address this? Because if I address this, then I'm taking ownership
over this fake story. But if people are constantly pumping it, if people are constantly pushing
this fake narrative, then you kind of have to address it. But even if you address it,
the people that started that fake narrative will only double down.
Where do you want anonymity on social media? I have this concern. I don't want to close
people's right to post-speak, whatever. I don't want to close it down. I don't want
racism, I don't want homophobia, I don't want sexism, but I do think people should be able
to express opinions and points of view. But where I have difficulty is when it's all done.
Anonymously?
Yeah.
Well, I go back and forth on this because I have a lot of stalkers. So on the one hand
And I'm like, if they weren't anonymous, then they could be prosecutable, right?
But also on the other hand, I feel like the attempts to, what is the term for it, unmask
everyone, I guess, and make sure that no one can be anonymous on the web requires identity.
People to upload their identity onto the internet, which I think creates a litany of privacy
problems, and it opens up new realms of surveillance, because as it stands currently, there's a
lot of protection that you can have from government surveillance while you're, you know, posting
anonymously.
And I worry that especially in this day and age, with so much political dissent being
policed, both online and offline, I worry that these initiatives are simply going to make
it much easier to stamp out political dissent and to stop people from being able to organize
or to converse with one another on things that the government has chosen to be inappropriate
or even illegal.
Yeah, but then should people be allowed to post-threatening racist, sexist, vile attacks
on individuals?
No.
anything about it. And usually the hosting companies are not very seriously interested
in doing anything about it either. Yeah, so I would rather create a portal where if you
put forth a criminal petition, if you, I don't know, go to the police and say this is a real
death threat, then they can, with ease of access, get identifiable information, IP address
is going to like about people that are doing things like that.
I have to say I find the internet host companies not particularly well engaged on this.
Of course.
When things appear sort of like, I think that guy should be dead.
I would take that as a threat.
Others would take it as a comment.
Oh no, I know.
There's a lot of that on the internet right now, especially around myself.
You know, it's 9-11, this year,
a lot of the discourse around 9-11
was about what I had said in 2019.
I used imprecise language,
I apologize for it all the way in 2019,
but it doesn't matter.
They are rehashing this narrative
in an effort to attack Abdul-Al-Sahed,
Zoram-Amdani, numerous other people myself as well,
saying I'm a dangerous, radical Islamic jihadist.
It's a way to foment Islamophobia,
which is rapidly risen in the Western world.
refusal to recognize that racial attacks are vicious, violent, and nasty, and wrong against anybody.
So attacks on a synagogue are disgusting, and their equivalent of attack on all of us
same applies in a mosque. Yeah, but of course, there's a double standard where Islamophobia is
not only permitted, but it's also rewarded. Islamophobia is rewarded in especially American
media. I assume it's not dissimilar in British media as well. It's really nasty. The way
that the Republican Party traffics in hate, like open hate and open bigotry, sitting elected
representatives say heinous things about Muslims.
Yeah, I get stuff from picking up on social media claiming that parts of London are run
by Sharia law.
Yeah, no go zones. I mean, those are like the old school ones that are bringing back.
Totally untrue.
It's totally true.
Allow me for everybody by force.
What about vegetarians?
Yeah.
Well, see, that's the other thing.
It's like there's such similarities
between Judaism
and Islam as well.
Halal versus Kosher.
If the media was constantly running
like Kosher Ali
or like if they were to identify
Jewish neighborhood and attack it as viciously
as they do, Muslim neighborhoods, this would be a real cause for concern. People would
genuinely be concerned. I would be disturbed. I would say that...
But maybe we're 1920s.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, what is this? The 1920s?
We did that.
Exactly. And yet, that exact same narrative, that exact same toxic ideology is still being
pushed right now. Those vile beliefs are still being pushed right now. But this time it's
against Muslims and everyone is playing along with it. But the reason why I brought that
up is because I've been receiving a lot of death threats due to 9-11, due to Charlie
Kirk assassination on 9-10 the day prior to 9-11 a year ago, and it's been insane. It's
more than I've ever received in a long time. I mean, I just let it wash over me. There's
not really much I can do about it, but it's not great, and I wish there was something
It's worse for your loved ones and your family, it's worse.
I mean, I'm in public activity, so are you, and you kind of expect me to be some attention.
It's not fair for children, partners, relatives, who get abused by default.
So, for that reason, I'm saying I'm very sympathetic and I wish platforms were more proactive in
combating this sort of behavior, but Twitter especially is not going to happen.
I mean, Elon Musk personally wants me dead, so I don't think he cares that I'm getting a lot of death threats.
So, what do you do in that situation?
What do you do when the most powerful billionaire on the planet directly despises you and wants you dead?
And his own personal social media company
is really tweaking the dials of Islamophobia,
all different sorts of racism.
He also, ironically enough, engages
in actual race science against Jewish people, as well.
He has trafficked in anti-Semitic conspiracies.
But because he's nominally pro-Israel
and because he's incredibly powerful,
And none of these institutions ever hold them to account?
Racism is wrong in any language and he ought to be, like everybody else, subject to appropriate
laws on this.
Yeah.
I have to say that legally the courts are often very reluctant to intervene on media
issues, which is not good. And the chances of getting any prosecution against famous
and prominent people and big papers is quite difficult. So I think we'll have to look at
the quality of the legal protections we've got against the divisive racist stuff in society.
Speaking of which, I'm being sued right now by Laura Loomer. Do you know who Laura Loomer is?
She's a crazy Trump advisor. She's been banned from every social media app for Islamophobia.
She wants famously, she once tried to start an ISIS fan club in her college and was, you know,
subsequently expelled. And she wants also famously changed herself to the Twitter headquarters to
get unbanned from Twitter. This was pretty Elon, of course. She's now unbanned. She's
been able to get a bunch of prominent people in the State Department fired for being insufficiently
pro-traum, her claims, but at work they fired them. Anyway, her lawyer, who has been disbarred
in the state of Florida, who is a frivolous lawsuit guy, he just tries to start these
ridiculous lawsuits, has chosen to sue me for $150,000. There's a 20-page complaint filed
on September 10, 2026 by self-represented lawyer Larry Klayman, who has previously represented
Laura Loomer and sued Facebook for suppression of conservative speech against the Sompiker.
This is also, he runs the operation called Judicial Watch. It's like a right-wing court
abuse. Did I say 150 million? Oh, I thought it was 150,000. For $150 million, I didn't
even realize that's such a ridiculous number that I thought it's probably, it must be 150,000,
which is also a ridiculous number. In any case, claiming a suing for reckless endangerment,
assault, intentional affliction of emotional distress, he's chosen to sue in Palm Beach,
because that's where he and Mar-a-Lago are located,
and he believes the Trump assassination attempts are relevant to his case somehow.
Klayman believes he has standing to bring this suit,
because while at no time does he claim Piker has directly spoken about him,
Piker has spoken about Zionists, because Klayman is a public Jewish Zionist,
he oddly feels this gives him standing.
Please note on the previous page, Klayman claims that Defendant Piker has issued a fatwa
against Jews who support Israel.
For clarity, a fatwa is a judgment made by a qualified Islamic jurist under Sharia law.
Piker was raised within a Sunni Muslim environment and is not a judge in a court following Sharia law.
While the term Fatwa may seem alien to Westerners, it's simply a judgment in Sharia court of law.
It would be like saying Piker has issued a legal judgment against Jews.
He is not a legal practitioner in any court.
Claiming States is on history in the facts section,
speaking about how he's a messianic Zionist and a lawyer who has represented lower-loomors
who Facebook were suppressing conservative speech
participating in trying to stop the construction of the ground zero mosque.
Klayman goes on to define what statements of Piker's use concern with.
They are the same statements publicized on major media where Piker warned that
conflating Zionism with Judaism would be dangerous for Jewish Americans.
Klayman interprets this as a direct threat to himself because I said that it is a
very dangerous and false conflation, Zionism and Judaism, and it puts
Jews in harm's way. And he's saying that that is a threat to all Jews around the
world. Clement claims that Mr. Breaker is promoting the dual loyalty trope and
promoting blood libel despite the quotation cited being an attempt to
stop the conflation of Judaism and Zionism and the latter assertion not
sourced at all. Clement continues with a slew of quotes completely disconnected
from one another from things relating to Israeli supposedly Jews at
large to America as a country. None of these are new revelations or have been highlighted
in adversarial mainstream media repeatedly. Clementus scribes malice the pikers' warnings
to Jews regarding Zionism, and then cites opinions from the ADL, Richie Torres, who
is another Democratic politician who was a massive ADL anti-defamation league lapdog
who attacked me and tried to get me blacklisted and banned and deplatformed from my criticisms
of Israel leading up to the general election in 2024.
That's what a prominent Democrat was busy with.
Klayman then lists various violent incidents
watched in Boulder, Minneapolis, Bloomfield,
none of which Piker was involved or has condoned.
On the previous page, in going forward, Klayman ties
Piker to Abdul El Sayed, Zoramum, down in Ihanomar,
Rashid Tlaib, who Klayman asserts all the spouse views
that foment violence towards both Jews and Christians.
So apparently I'm being sued for $150 million.
Have you ever been sued for $150 million?
I've had various lawsuits against me, which have cost a great deal of money, but not as
much as that.
Yeah.
Now, I'm going to have to go anyway, did you realize that?
Yeah, I do.
I know it's late.
It's very late.
But yeah, I wanted to go down a trip down memory lane of the Corbanization for a lot
of the younger audience members that might not be aware of, of how you were also unjustly
melanched over and over again attacked mercilessly for speaking truth to power.
That's right. When you speak out about redistribution of power and wealth in society, which is what
you do, when you speak out about real environmental protection, which is what you do and others
do, you're then challenging very, very powerful vested interests, and that's when they come
much to you, and try to alienate you from your own comrades and support base and weaken
everything that we do. The only answer to this is stronger, more grass roots, more effective
levels of political understanding, which is why I was just thinking today when we were
walking around this lovely event here in Astend, young people coming to this event wouldn't
see it as an alienating, boring, cynical political atmosphere. They see it as something inclusive,
fun, involvement, and above all hopeful. There's campaigns of all sorts here against
racism, discrimination, environmental support, workers' rights, planning, lots of issues.
That gives me a sense of hope, and it gives hope of the kind of politics that we can pursue.
And that's why I'm so impressed with what you and others have done in the USA,
the way in which Zohran got elected, and the way in which the numbers of people
who I never thought would ever see the day, people actually standing as candidates,
as socialists in the USA, getting elected. Great. That gives me hope.
So can we be hopeful?
Yeah, no, I mean, I'm laughing at this stuff.
I don't think it's serious.
And I think like, I mean, figures like ourselves.
It's a loss in crying.
Yeah, figures like ourselves also paved the way
where like, I think the media environment was far more
hostile or rather the reception was far different
to this kind of these kinds of smears back, you know,
a decade ago when people's attitudes on Israel
were far different.
Like right now, if what's going on, if what happened from 2015 onward happened to you
today, there would be a far different reception.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I don't think it would be any, not only do I now think it would be costly, I think it
would be beneficial.
I think all of the media's attacks, especially on the issue of Palestine, would most likely
galvanize a gigantic force of support and I think there is that support for you
now for sure it's just that that also gives me a little bit of hope as well
because at least in my experience these guys have been attacking me for months
now. Well that's what I've written for you. Yeah. I explained to Shyvana and moved to change my
If you're watching this, come on, you can do it, and you know you can.
It's just crazy that it was the Labour Party that happened under.
I've been to the UK many times under Labour leadership and also Tory leadership, but I
would expect a more hostile reception from a Tory government than a Labour one.
So we have to meet in Belgium in the future.
Thank you Belgium and thank you Ostend, what a great place.
I'm going to run.
Thank you. Thank you so much for everything you've done and thank you for coming on the broadcast. This is wonderful.
I hate you. You're off tomorrow. You're not here tomorrow. Yeah, I'm gone. Yeah, so I'll see you when I get kind of come see you in New York
All right. Yeah, I'll be there. Let me know. Okay. All right. Thanks guys
Okay
All right, I'm gonna go back to the new story
Trump in Dublin
He has done some good and he has maybe not done great in other people's eyes, but I think
he's the only he does good in the world.
No, because he isn't a great person and Ireland doesn't need that negativity.
Ireland was fretting about the visit from the president who famously hates stairs but cherishes
controversy and attention.
As it turned out, Donald Trump came armed not with verbal artillery, but with love bombs,
especially if you're a nationalist yearning for a united island.
His first meeting was with Ireland's outspoken President, Catherine Connolly, who once described
Trump as volatile and acting like a bully.
She stressed the importance of the UN and the fact that war and genocide should never
be normalized.
Trump described Connolly as terrific.
location next meeting next love bomb this one with a t-shirt me how Martin by
now a master of the inscrutable grin in the presence of truck
What's your view on it?
Well, I don't want to cause any trouble, but I will tell you, I'd love to see it here
and find it.
I have friends on both sides, great people, they're Irish people, how can they be bad,
right?
I'd love to see it here and find it.
I think it would be a great, yeah, a great pleasure to everybody's cat, if that happens.
It's going to happen eventually.
One more event at the American Embassy in Dublin, and the President has clearly thought
about his off-the-cuff bombshell without bothering to diffuse it.
Can they ask me a question?
What do you think about unification of Northern Ireland and Ireland?
I said, well, he's the next question.
He's good now.
He's made up for his past mistakes.
He's on his own.
He's done did it again, dude.
I mean, I kind of, I go back and forth on this because I kind of feel like
he's the worst guy to say this because now people, because he's such a toxic figure
in European politics that they're going to fucking say that, um, this is,
This is a bad thing. The Unification Islands is a bad thing.
What?
Is it glorping?
What happened?
I'm glad that at least it didn't happen when Corbyn was here, that would have been embarrassing.
They gave a nice answer. We'll read about it tomorrow.
That's one of those questions where, no matter what you say, no matter how way you say it,
there's no good answer.
This is the first time a serving American president has come out explicitly in support
of a United Ireland. Maybe he's being mischievous as he tends to be.
Trump may be aware that the people who are out protesting against him in Ireland, many of them are very likely to be passionate Irish republicans and, you know, who are condemning him for Palestine and for Gaza.
And it's a very good way of discombobulating those people, you know, to take up their cause.
Even if many of the demonstrators want to see that United Island, they're unlikely to see his...
Yeah. That requires Trump to be thinking.
That requires Trump to be thinking about things.
And Trump? Well, Trump does not think.
So...
Oh, my dad brought utensils anyway, yeah, thank you.
Marks the change of policy or indeed warm to him on any other matter.
And so to the prime purpose of this visit for the Gulfer and chief to witness the Irish open at one of his own golf courses as a fleet of armored vehicles and the whole security apparatus is mobilized to get a man close to a fairway.
toast to a fairway, but not out of the political rough.
Well, earlier spoke to Neil Richmond,
Ireland's Minister of State and the member of Fina Gale,
which advocates a united Ireland.
I asked him if Donald Trump's comments
about the unification were music to his ears.
Well, certainly I didn't expect when I woke up this morning
that I'd be agreeing with Donald Trump on much,
but delighted as a passionate United Irelander to hear this.
However, Donald Trump's biggest support is in Ireland
and tend to be members of the Democratic Unionist Party.
So I think they're a little bit more aggrieved.
Right.
And do you think he meant what he said?
Does he understand the context?
I'm not too sure.
But I think if we look at where he's coming from historically,
the state of New York, New Jersey,
there has been a lot of politicians
from there in the House of Representatives, Trump supporters,
who would have been quite educated on the Irish issue.
But perhaps it was a bit more of a throwaway comment.
However, he did then double down on a later interview as well.
But as you said, this creates a little bit
you know, more than an archdiver, it vexes the, you know, the unionist community up in the north.
Does this create more problems than it's worth?
No, not necessarily, because I think the unionist community, the PUL community in Northern Ireland,
they're a lot more diverse and nuanced than people give them credit for. And certainly,
the likes of the DUP, I believe, Gavin Robinson was calling me an agitator this week,
it's a regular part of the course. Other unions have kind of taken it on the chain and said,
said, well, look, this is the opinion of a very important person, but it's not really
the direct opinion that matters. And we accept that those of us who believe in the United
Ireland or those of us who have a role in the Irish government, that ultimately, if
and when we discuss the issue of the United Ireland, that decision rests first and foremost
with the British Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, who under the Good Friday Agreement
will decide whether or not our border poll will be called. After that, it's up to the
people.
Indeed. And number 10 has said very clearly today, we stick to the Good Friday Agreement.
is their plan for a border poll right now. And we respect the comments of the British
Prime Minister, possibly using slightly clumsy language to be quite frank. A fortnight ago
when he said that a border poll was completely off the table, that call is to be made by the
Secretary of Station. I fully respect that a British Prime Minister from the Labour Party,
the Conservative Party, whoever it might be, has no real interest in Irish unification.
However, that decision will be taken by the people if and when a referendum ever happens.
And so those of us who believe in the United Ireland,
we have the responsibility in turn
to continue that preparation work
and to continue that level of reconciliation
across the island and indeed between the two islands.
So who has been clumsy here,
the American president or the British prime minister?
I think there are two very different things.
I think the British prime minister
used clumsy language to make a statement of fact,
whereas the American presidents,
perhaps of being a little bit mischievous,
perhaps of getting a bit carried away,
that he was in Ireland,
certainly the speech that he gave at the Irish ambassador's
residence, it went in every direction possible
and spoke as much about the American ambassador
to Ireland's golf game as it did about the very deep economic
relationships or some of the real concerns
that the Irish government and indeed our president raised
with President Trump earlier in the day.
Trump also said that, you know, Mihael Martin, the T-shirt,
is the man to make this come about, the unification of Ireland.
Is that something that we haven't been told by the T-shirt?
No, the T-shirt has been extremely consistent
that his priority is within the shared island units.
The unit where the Irish government has put over a billion euro worth of resources into
building up not just the relationship and human-based infrastructure that Northern Ireland needs,
such as the completion of the AFI, such as increased medical places at McGee, and such
as the Ulster Canal, among so much else.
We want to continue to build that level of reconciliation, that shared purpose on the
Island and across the islands but politically. I don't even know why it's
glorbing. I don't even know why it's fucking glorbing.
And just is not even down.
MI6 knows that I, much like Donald Trump, am a strong supporter of a United Ireland.
What the fuck is goopy?
Let's goopy together.
Let's group together with my mom.
What the fuck are you guys saying?
We make no secret that we do aspire to United Ireland.
I'm a member of Finnegale, who his official name in our party is Finnegale, the United
Ireland party.
And just finally, briefly, getting back to Donald J. Trump, you know, in the stuff that
he said today, you know, has he ultimately helped your cause or hurt it?
Well, look, to be quite frank, this is a question that's coming up more and more.
We saw former Prime Minister Gordon Brown say just recently that he believes there be
United Ireland.
the question put not just Andy Burnham but also to Chris Bryant. This is a
discussion that is happening around kitchen tables across our island and
indeed across our islands and it's one that we as responsible politicians have
a duty of care to make sure that we consider it that we provide plans that
if a minor referendum comes we learn from the mistakes of Brexit and actually
know what the answer to each question means for people in reality.
Minister Neil Richland thank you very much indeed.
Will you allow Hans Blix to inspect your dog?
What the fuck is a Hans Blix?
Inspect my dog how?
Goopy is the Romanian version of TikTok? Why does that sound like a slur?
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I'm freaking gloar being a while we had the discussions the looties called us and they
don't want to fight with us they let us know I don't want to fight with us they don't want
me go after they don't want us to go after them but they called and they talked to us
It would be much better if not having us involved and they're letting the most strips go through it.
There's just one country that did not do what they were and we'll get that straight down.
But that's a great job here we control as you know we really very powerfully control the harmless strength
and nobody saw that happening. We were very powerful control of it.
and enable a naval blockade that's been so impressive.
We're taking a lot of boats out.
We take out an average 25 boats a day.
Most of them in the day.
We take out a bunch of that 25 boats every single day.
Saudi Arabia has shown.
It's not a normal amount of control.
It's a very powerful type of control that up.
Fuck.
I'm glorping.
I'm freaking glorping again.
I don't know why it's glooping so freaking hard, dude
I'm glooping and I'm flurping
Yeah, Donald Trump is right.
He's controlling the Shredi Hormuz very powerfully.
the bottom on the straight two.
A major pipeline which links the Gulf to the Red Sea and the Saudis believe that multiple
drone attacks launched from inside Iraq damage the pipeline shown in these satellite images.
Iraq has condemned the attacks and no one has claimed responsibility yet.
Saudis saying right now they're not retaliating.
This latest escalation comes as the Iranian-backed Houthi rebels are now taking control of several
strategic cities in Yemen in their lightning offensive. You can see them advancing from
town to town from the air and on the ground. The Houthis battling Saudi-backed pro-Yemini
government forces, capturing the critical Red Sea port of Al-Mokah and effectively moving
in on the Babilmandib Strait. That's the vital waterway in the region, which is a key shipping
route that links Asia and Europe. So why is this important? Well, if you look at the map,
you can see why. Shipping through the strait has long been crucial for global trade. It
It has also been used by Saudis as a way of exporting its oil to Asia after Iran closed off the Strait of Hormuz.
The Houthis insist there are no restrictions on international shipping only on Saudi vessels.
And of course, the knock-on effect from all of this is rising global oil prices.
Rachel?
Yeah, it's such a trickle-down effect.
Okay, Wama, thank you.
The pressure on the floor of oil from the Middle East because of the U.S. and Israeli war with Iran has intensified.
Saudi Arabia says it shouts the east-west oil pipeline it's been using to bypass
restrictions in the Strait of Hormuz after attacks on Thursday. The Iran-backed Houthis
have reportedly claimed control of Perim Island as part of their offensive against
government forces. It comes the day after the Houthis captured the strategic port city
of Mokka from Saudi-backed pro-government forces. Perim Island divides the Abab-al-Mandab
strait, a key global shipping route. The Houthis say they'll blockade Saudi shipping in the strait,
increasing pressure on global oil supplies. Caroline Hawley has the latest.
Helped by ballistic missiles, the Houthis have been advancing on the ground with lightning speed.
These fired at the strategic port of Makkah, which they took yesterday from government forces.
Here they are inside the city, once the birthplace of the global coffee trade.
Significant now because its capture helped propel them on to the crucial Burbel Mandeb Strait.
Fighting escalated last week after a four-year ceasefire in Yemen's long-running civil war.
It began to unravel in July.
Saudi Arabia, which supports the Yemeni government forces, has been trying to slow the advance.
When Jeza asked if people knew about the reproductive cycle of rabbi's, you said,
is this a British thing? What did you mean by that?
I don't know I feel like wow you spam the fuck out of that
I was like maybe British people like hunt rabbits or something. I feel like that's like a very British thing to do
Oh, we're going today. We're going to hunt head and that's why you would know about the reproductive cycles of rats
Yeah, this is a single issue chatter his single issue is how dare you disparage the good name of Jezza
I'm very proud of my question. You should be proud of other things.
Harrison, have you heard of two different animals? Okay, whatever dude.
Dude, they have so much gear. It's crazy.
That's our health care again of the Iran-backed Houthis with airstrikes to no avail.
It's a war with consequences around the region and beyond.
The Houthis have been moving from the territory they've held in the north of Yemen all the
way along the Red Sea coast.
On Wednesday, they took the town of Hays.
Then yesterday, Mokkah fell to their forces.
Now they've captured the town of Dhabab and Yemeni government troops who are backed by
Saudi Arabia have also pulled out of Pedam Island, right in the middle of the Bebil Mandab.
Today this jubilant Houthi militiamen said the rebels don't need missiles anymore, they
just need to position themselves in the right places around the waterway.
The Bebil Mandab has become increasingly important for Saudi Arabia, because it's had to export
its oil through this Red Sea route, after Iran blockaded the Strait of Hormuz.
This afternoon the Houthis said that shipping through the waterway would be safe for everyone,
apart from the Saudis.
Satellite images show the impact of another attack in western Saudi Arabia on the route
of an oil pipeline.
Big setbacks for the kingdom this week, a major wing for Iran.
dog they're just straight up bullying the fucking kingdom
it is i mean what can you say
what can you fucking say i mean let's be real look you don't have to be the biggest fans of the
the onslaught law movement at all but what ksa
and the UAE by way of some of the most psychotic Salavas brigades, including but not limited
to Al Qaeda, have done in Yemen have been atrocious.
A man-made famine caused by a blockade that led to tens of thousands of deaths due to famine
in areas that were controlled by Ansarallah.
Here's in the making.
And then Saudi Arabia was like Saudi Arabia basically cut out the UAE from this process.
And then they were trying to have a budget deal, so simultaneously maintaining this fucking siege.
And I'm sure it would have been beneficial for Iran if the onslaught law movement got
involved in the closure of the Strait of Hormuz or in the closure of the Bob Almandeb
Strait.
While Iran was busy closing up the Strait of Hormuz to apply maximum pressure, and yet
But the Ansarallah did not, until Iran conducted the funeral processions, proceedings for
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Hamanay.
There was an envoy, there was a plane full of Ansarallah officials that went to Tehran.
And then when that plane was flying back from Tehran to Zana, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
remembered that they are supposed to maintain a blockade.
They did not want a straight air bridge to exist between Tehran and Zana and they blew
up the runway.
This is what caused the Asala movement to say, all right, well, now we're in.
They said, fuck it, make it a global war.
We're back.
Now perhaps the timing of this is coincidental that these are some of these forces are Al-Qaeda
affiliates or worked with Al-Qaeda affiliates at one point in the previous iterations of
this conflict and therefore the Ansar-Allah movement is punishing those that are ideologically
aligned with the people that did 9-11. Way more than America ever did. So there's that
element of this story that's quite complicated. America now is directly aligned with the people
and movements that were responsible for 9-11 on the 25th anniversary of 9-11. And now you got
are foreign adversaries that are the victors of the Yemeni civil war the al-sala movement
fighting against al-qaeda and al-qaeda affiliates what the fuck is going on
motherfuckers would be like bro you're a campus which camp
If America is oftentimes on both sides of every conflict, it's kind of funny when people
say you're a campus dog. America is both camps now. That's what happens when there is no
multipolar world where America is the the singular supreme hegemonic entity.
So half the time the motherfuckers that we armed are fighting against us and then doing 911.
And then the other half of the time we're arming them again literally in Yemen.
And now we're fighting the other side.
We're fighting both al-Qaeda technically.
And also the people fighting against al-Qaeda in Yemen.
We're fighting both sides in Yemen.
I guess we're not fighting both sides.
We're aligned with the al-Qaeda side, but it doesn't matter.
Basically, all the Houthi gays have come from Tariq Saleh's
is the Yemeni National Resistance Forces retreating with relatively a little pushback. I wonder
if this was a situation kind of like Afghans that are here where the Tariq Saleh faction
was just looting most of the resources and not actually paying their soldiers.
Yeah, Muhammad al-Shubani says politics has no mother as we say in Persian. Hold on, it's
I know
Not too long ago McGurk was tasked with fighting ices now
He's moderating an event with the man sent by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to set up al-Qaeda Syrian branch
The same guy now runs Syria, what a way to mark 9-11
It is kind of crazy how look listen
I'm sorry
But I have to say this look I'm not judging
Ahmed al-shara's performance so far
Which is definitely exceeded my expectations
To be fair my expectations were garbanzo. It was very low
Okay, I
Mean he's just a vassal. It is what it is. He still keeps getting fucking bombed by Israel
Regardless of the fact that he's basically a vassal because he's too
Closely affiliated with Turkey for Israel's interest. There's a whole bit of drama there
Having said that all things considered
In spite of that chaos Syria has been doing far better than it was before
okay
There were definitely a lot of issues initially with
sectarian in fighting
There were a lot of issues with, you know, potential for ethnic cleansing against like minority populations in the hands of Sunni militias, Salafis militias, but they've seemingly been able to manage it.
Although there's still plenty of issues with the Kurds, again, like I said, they're basically a Turkish vassal state, right?
But the bar was in hell nonetheless. So here's the thing. Here's the interesting predicament here.
And this is a testament to the power of mainstream news.
Mainstream news took a guy who was literally a fucking al-Qaeda commander.
And in a matter of a year, because he was now a reliable State Department asset, in
less than a year, they fucking cleaned his ass up and now he can freely travel to and
from the United States of America and appear alongside people on panels where he talks
about the the profound importance of institutions that an a gemolo style next to the motherfuckers
who were tasked with hunting his ass down only a decade prior.
I'm sorry.
No one questions this.
No one, if you cannot see how immensely powerful mainstream media is and how much they play
along with whatever the fuck the State Department wants, you are delusional.
These are the people calling me a terrorist.
Ahmed Al-Sharah, former Al-Qaeda commander, can freely travel, if he sees fit, to the United
Kingdom.
Not only that, but he can also, despite being a former Al-Qaeda commander, he can have meetings
with heads of labor.
We can call for a meeting with Shabana Mahmood, where they can talk about the importance of
having strong border control.
I can't.
Ahmed Alshara Jolani can go to the United Kingdom.
I can't.
Think about that Ahmed Alshara also known as Joe Lonnie also known as as Joe Lenski
All it took was for the state department to say, you're an asset now, sure, you have
a $10 million bounty on your head, but you are our asset now, you're fucking good in
in our books, Big Dog.
And the media turned around,
and immediately we're like, look at the reforms
that Al-Sharaz government has taken.
Nobody was like, hey, isn't that crazy
that a former al-Qaeda commander
is like currently in charge of Syria?
Isn't that kind of wild?
Nope.
the U.S. is in deeper, deeper in bed with Saudi Arabia than ever and loves the Al-Qaeda
guy who now rules Syria. We no longer seem to care about the entities that motivated
the war on terror in the first place. And it goes on anyway, only now repurpose to kill
fisherman and hound dissidents. That's right. Oh, yeah, go ahead. El Jalani is a crazy
resume in Iraq. I mean, look, I'm not even talking about the guy and what he was doing.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, Syllaphism One was crazy.
That's what he said.
You're right, Cloud District enjoyers right.
Ahmed Elshadabi like, Syllaphism One was crazy.
Get ready for Syllaphism Two.
I guess I'm more shocked.
I guess I'm more shocked at how the media whipped into shape so fast like once that
narrative is set ain't nobody questioning it come on I only beheaded a couple guys bro
Just a couple, what are you, some kind of fucking cancel culture warrior?
It's only a handful of guys that I personally beheaded.
Yeah, I guess the rap this with the neat little bow, that is the other side
of carbonization.
The media can be so vicious.
To those it declares.
It's enemies, your neighbors, thought leaders, and sometimes even content creators.
So vicious to those that are a threat to the interests of the very powerful.
While simultaneously that very same media can turn a man who literally chopped motherfuckers' heads into a normal guy presiding over the rehabilitation of the Syrian state.
That's crazy.
Yeah, here he is. Shut up. Sit down with the US General who arrested him. David Petraeus.
Go easy on the guy who was mourning his friends yesterday.
You think he was like, man, we lost, we lost 19 of our bravest warriors that day.
You know what I mean?
Like you think he, actually that would be a really interesting interview if someone
asked them, like, what he thinks about Al Qaeda now.
He's like 19 of our homies man rip
He was not in al-qaeda at the time of 9-11 I know but like but he was in al-qaeda after
so my question is like
You think he's like sympathetic you think he like looks back at 9-11 and was like beast mode or do you think he's like that was really fucked up
I mean, I guess now he has to say it's fucked up, right?
You know it's really funny they they ask Ahmed al-shara if he condemns us on piker
Ahmed al-shara
I want to play you a clip of an American political commentator who once famously said America deserve 9-11
What do you have to say?
Amir al-Sharah is like, this is unacceptable.
I condemn Hassan Piker.
I condemn him with the strongest, with the strongest condemnations one can ever receive.
You have weird fantasies, not gonna lie to them, I what, Jolani condemning me?
Yeah, Jolensky be like, what a horrible thing to say about one's own country.
Listen, what our boys did on 9-11, while I may feel conflicted, what this Hasan guy
is saying is unacceptable.
You have to put in more work on your Arabic, I know, I know, I sound like fucking Jeff
done them. My Arab accent is so bad, it's racist like straight up. You are now banned
from Syria, buddy, I'm Turkish. What is this? How Democrats failure to repudiate
Hassan Piker open the door to extremism within the right? My new column for CBS News. Oh
Oh my god, someone's gonna write that shit.
Wait, what?
He said it's a radical thing he did in his youth.
Yeah, I mean, I guess he technically did kinda do the,
you know, woke one was crazy argument
about joining Al-Qaeda and becoming a commander
and also chopping people's heads in the process.
Yeah, it's not a joke.
He kind of did say that.
Like he literally was just like, yeah.
Yeah, he did do the woke one was crazy shit about Al-Qaeda.
He really did.
where is it there it's the it's the cnn interview
yeah he said we do crazy things in our youth
He said we do crazy things in our youth. That's what he said
Did he actually kill people I
Madeleine shut off formerly known as Jolani
Did he actually kill people?
dog he was literally the commander of al-qaeda
what the fuck do you think al-qaeda was doing tickle parties
he talks about his time in al-qaeda like it was an internship
Please say allegedly, Hasan. Yeah, Ahmed Al-Sharaf suing me for defamation.
Hasan Piker implied we did anything but tickle parties at my time as a commander of Al-Qaeda.
This is unacceptable. Also, Hasan Piker is anti-Semitic.
of the
rear twenty thirteen per uh... footage iraq in those casters personally on the
jollani's authorities as you want is the senior leader
that was orchestrating and preferred suicide bombings against the market
places
they whitewash their crimes
claiming they were fighting america they were bombing uh... in the shia
marketplaces
We're creating new guys, we didn't create this guy, this guy exists.
Breaking China's presidency offers a role in peace negotiations between US and Iran,
as you save us.
A new book called The Truth about September 11th claims to present evidence that the destruction
of the World Trade Center was not the work of terrorists, but was in fact perpetrated
by the U.S. government.
With us, the much-beligned books author William Gerard.
Most of the mainstream media, they're just too afraid to even have me on, so thank you.
Also, Johnny, this is Omar Al Farouk of Al Qaeda.
He's an outspoken critic of what he calls Gerard's 9-11 conspiracy theories.
Yes, Michael, I assure you that is all this book is, is complete nonsense.
Mr. Gerard, how did you arrive at the conclusions in your book?
Where are the facts here?
Two scientific examinations of ground zero.
For example, the melted core.
Now, here we go.
There's definitely evidence that there were thermite bombs that were used in bringing down those buildings.
I was going to show you, we did not use thermite bombs.
I did the research myself, it would not have worked.
We flew an enormous airplane into a building.
Okay, I think it is obvious
what caused the building to crumble.
Why are you using so close minded to this, sir?
How would you let the courage?
You spent two months in a mountain cave,
sleeping on rocks, planning something really special,
only to have someone take the credit away from you.
Oh no, you don't have the credit.
You don't have the credit.
Open up your mind, Mr. R.
Why in the world would the U.S. government want to stage this attack on their own soil?
Grieve, of course, in to increase the oil revenues, the weapons industry and security industry,
and these are all things that Bush and top of master Cheney, they've got their stakes in.
Bush's administration, there are then of Jekyll's. There's certainly a common ground there,
but what does not follow is why would they kill 3,000 of their own infidel?
Why would they kill 3,000 of their own infidels?
That's such a...
This is...
God.
Onion man, banger after banger, always.
What are their plans to build a case for the war?
I think it's just not the plan all of this.
Why is his approval rating, you know, in El-Haman?
And why is Osama bin Laden safe in somewhere?
Yes, the Iraq war has done serious damage
to the Bush administration.
Here, here, look, look.
I have names, phone numbers, everyone involved in this.
Got to be kidding.
Names and phone numbers.
I have here the voucher for the lessons
for the flight lessons.
This is obviously for his dialysis.
Come on, would the President Bush give you these himself?
I would.
This is the most definitely.
The ambush would go out, we hang.
He got really, really long before the day,
he just rubbish, talking to you on,
he's like talking to a guy.
This is the kind of thing I got to say.
I'll just take the risk of al-Qaida State.
I have a suggestion for you.
Why don't you go to the Washington Monument?
Take the famine.
Let's say October 12th, 2009, round 304.
Take a guided tour to the top and just wait there.
I think you will see that al-Qaida is very good
at organizing things, you'll see.
Gentlemen, gentlemen, thank you.
coming up when we come back. That's so good.
Iran today has a weapon that's more important than the nuclear
bomb. And that's the two most strategic states in the Middle
East are under its direct or indirect control. It now can
negotiate a much better hands with the West and the United
States.
So worried of the Saudis, they're reported to have pressed Donald Trump, apparently unsuccessfully,
to intervene. And even if the Houthis do only block Saudi shipping, it will still have significant
consequences for the global economy, already hit hard by the US war on Iran. Caroline Hawley,
BBC News.
Our Middle East correspondent Hugo Vashegas, following developments from Jerusalem. He
You told me more about Saudi Arabia's capacity to respond to the Houthis advance.
Despite their request, where does this leave the Saudis?
How capable are they on their own?
Yeah, Catherine, I think it would be very interesting to see what the Saudi strategy
is going to be.
I think this apparent rejection by the Trump administration to intervene, rejecting those
requests by Saudi Arabia suggests that the U.S. doesn't want to see a further escalation
of the situation here. We know that the situation is already volatile because of the current
standoff between the Americans and the Iranians. There hasn't been a deal to end the war with
Iran, and we've seen that recent flare-ups in the conflict there have led to more pressure
on energy markets. So I think, you know, the strategy here is to try to contain the situation.
But this is a key test for Saudi Arabia. First, you have a tax happening inside the country.
So this is a major security test. And then you have a tax targeting a major shipping
waterway. So this is also an economic test. We know that Saudi Arabia has been relying
on this key pipeline, the East-West pipeline that has been targeted, and also on the Babel
Mandab Strait, because the Strait of Hormuz has been effectively closed.
And now you have the Houthis saying that they're going to block Saudi shipping in that strait.
So this is a major, you know, test for Saudi Arabia.
And then, you know, you have, you know, the province in Iraq from where these drones believed
to have been launched.
This is an area where militias supported by Iran operate.
And there has been reaction from the Saudis saying that for now they're not going to
retaliate following a request by the Iraqi government.
So again, I think they're trying to contain the escalation of the situation there.
And finally, there's also the situation in Yemen, you know, the presumption of the fighting
in Yemen risks reigniting the conflict there.
There has been some level of stability in the last four years, but the UN says that more
than 40,000 people have already been displaced.
And I think it is in the interest of Saudi Arabia to contain the violence in the country.
I'm so fucking tired.
Dr. Saah Harazadeh is director of the Iranian and Middle Eastern Study Center at California
State University.
She told me it's unlikely the US will offer support to the South.
dog there ain't no way there's a literal fucking missile Yemen gif
missile Yemen gif by euro news oh my fucking god
i'm looking at it right now in my other chat where i can see the gifs
guys stop spamming Yemeni missile gifs
God damn it.
Bro, I said I'm tired, and someone says, sleep if you're tired.
Thanks, man.
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Howdy's.
Honestly, I think it's unlikely to change because the United States is already quite overextended in the region militarily and otherwise and the popularity of this war has already.
reached historic lows and it was already low to begin with. So I would be surprised if the
United States committed more forces at this point. It's not off the table because we know
that Trump wants to end this as quickly as he can in this last few weeks before the midterm
election. So what does this mean? As the Houthis try to take control of this crucial strait? Of course,
we've seen oil exports not really moving through the straits of Hormuz, how concerned should
we be about these developments?
I think incredibly concerned. The strait of Hormuz, the exact number fluctuates of course
and has fluctuated always, but it has roughly between a quarter and a third of the world's
crude oil has passed through the strait of Hormuz at the beginning of the war and that
that of course has choked off quite dramatically
at different points throughout the war
through the straight of the.
Everything is fucked.
Reagan also allowed forces launch Blitzkrieg drive towards
Aden after Supreme political counsel issues,
new military directly reportedly ordering
to do it for Charlie.
Come on, man.
First of all, they wouldn't be doing it for Charlie.
I know it's nine 10, but they would literally be doing it
as revenge for 9 11.
Okay, that is the far, far more reasonable joke to craft here.
They're doing it as revenge for 9-11.
RIP to Kirk, though, this would be yet another thing that he absolutely would have fucking
hated and would just have to act in public as though he loved because he was a lackey
for the Trump administration.
all like he was another this was like another Jeffrey Epstein style situation where he was
like very adamant about never going to war with Iran and he was still alive to this day he would
have to just sit there and be like no it's actually great that we're going to war with Iran guys
my friends in the administration called me
and i'm gonna trust their their confidence i'm gonna trust their confidence we are probably
winning the war in Iran and a lot of people don't want to recognize it because they hate the president
After spending years being like we cannot go to war with Iran we cannot go to war with Iran
What a fucking stupid decision that would be
Above Amanda it's it's about 12 percent and it's between 10 10 and 12 percent when you add that to the amount going through
the straight of hormones that is quite a significant portion of the world's oil
oil shipping and when you add the layer on top of that that we have at this point pretty
much exhausted strategic reserves of crude oil around the world.
We are about to hit a major wall with respect to oil and gas.
Diesel prices are already, the national average in the United States is heading toward $6.50.
In my area it's already $8 and I think we are going to see even higher gas prices for
the average consumer. And this is as we're seeing the per barrel price of oil already skyrocketing.
Now it's above $100 a barrel for the first time since July. I think we should be incredibly concerned
for the prices coming. And of course the Houthis are known to be backed by Iran. How much of a
role do you think Iran is playing in this escalation? What could they be doing behind the scenes?
You know, I've always suspected and I've always expected that Iran and the Houthis are sort
of waiting for the right moment for the Houthis to get more involved since the start of this
war.
And I think that's what's happening now.
I think they have been, I would not be surprised at all if we find out at some point that Iran
had been sending or ramping up, escalating the pace.
October's going to be crazy month.
It's not what you predict will happen.
The Iranian October surprise is both of the streets are closed.
Both of the streets are closed.
China goes back to purchasing oil at the same rates that they did, $7 a gallon.
Petroleum reserves in America reach critical levels like actually hit the red line
Yeah, if you try to buy exit the grocery store that is in slave your firstborn they're like you can't pay for this anyway
Donald Trump's approval rating is still at a reliable 30%. Stock market's still going up somehow.
Those are my predictions for October, for the month of October. Stock market doing phenomenal, okay?
Calci Unveils new program indentured servitude or not Calci I mean what that
what is the Klarna? Klarna unveils new affordable program for groceries it's
called indentured servitude stockmark is doing gangbusters
gallon oil, $7. Donald Trump's cult still blames Joe Biden for everything.
While in the process of selling off their firstborn to indentured servitude,
Trump supporters are interviewed on the line. They're asked,
who do you blame for the cost of living crisis? Some of them say Barack Obama.
Many of them say Joseph Robinette Brandon not a single one says Donald Trump
Sending weapons to kind of hide out in Yemen so that these could deploy them
I think the the partnership between the who's anyone has
has been significant for quite some time, but strategically, I think it would be shocking
for us to expect that Iran is not deeply involved in this escalation at this point.
This is also coming on the heels of mutual attacks between Iran and the United States
against shipping ā sorry ā against oil ships, container ships, the Iranian ships
they were destroyed between the several that were destroyed that probably took out between
a million and a million and a half barrels of oil. And we know that some were also directed
towards some attacks toward the United States also. We don't know exactly yet because Iran
is claiming that damage was much more expensive than what the United States is prepared to
admit to. But we know that American ships were also damaged, American bases were also
being attacked. This, I think we are in the midst of a very serious
escalatory cycle at this point.
And finally, new real since
Oh, God.
Rather fucking die than watch this. Alright, I'm done. I'm too
tired. Tomorrow's a travel day.
Tomorrow's a travel day, ladies and gentlemen, I love you all.
I will be back in the land of the free home of the brave.
I'm saving you from a Bill Maher brain disease moment
I'll be back on Monday
Hopefully, I'm not fucking arrested when I come back into the country. Oh, yeah
Back on Monday folks
Love you all
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