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In action, what the fuck is that?
Ass gone fire
So much fun blown up to the max
Ass gone fire
The closet's overflowing
Grand is about to snap
Ass gone fire
That burden you by eyes and nuts
Everybody, just relax
Oh, have some fun
Everybody, everybody
Yeah, let's sing it
H.A.C.C.M.M.P.
I can't eat my first cup
Big food on the ground
What's wrong with us
Troubles, yeah, yeah, yeah
H.A.C.C.M.M.P.
I can't eat my first cup
Yeah, I think we're done here
That's a wrap
G.O.B. gonna G.O.B.
Titan kill kidnapped
What's wrong with bodybuilder?
There's a trap
The boomer's gonna
Boom in the fat
Brutus gonna fat
What's wrong with bodybuilder?
There's a trap
I'm a young batron
His heart that blurry splat
What's wrong with bodybuilder?
I don't even know what to say anymore dude. I don't even know what to say anymore. I look I'm gonna pause this for a second and just
start off by saying we worked on this to make sure that these issues don't happen
to make sure that these uh these these network issues don't happen
for hours okay and in the preliminary trial in the test run there were no issues whatsoever
there were no issues whatsoever until i hit that fucking go live button there's construction
Happening inside of the house as well. I don't know if you guys can hear it because I want to die. Okay. There is literally construction happening right outside
There's also construction happening in general in in the neighborhood
But the internet speeds are unbelievably high right now and yet there's still
There's still the issue. I don't know what it is. I don't know what the fuck is going on
But these issues are persisting for some strange reason, and I don't know it's just like it's I feel it's designed to maybe go crazy
It's designed to make me go insane
Okay, I
Cannot I cannot comprehend
What this is I don't know what it what is going on?
But anyway, this is the part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news about what's going on in the world of
Hassan Haas and I'd like her in between the time period where I press the star shoo button and press the stop shoo button and
Hopefully the the the limitations
Hopefully the the the bandwidth issues will
Will will be limited to a short burst we lower the bit rate down to 3k
There's already like a big drop-off in the quality.
Treat the construction as a misophonia pure honey trap.
Panic room installation? No.
It's your computer, get a newer different one.
Dog, dog, dog. This is the fourth computer that we're on.
You don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
This is the problem. Many of you think.
Many of you think that
You're you're coming in with a with a new attitude with the with a new idea that I haven't thought about already
Okay, I
Promise this is like we've we've tried everything we swapped computers. We've I
Don't know I don't fucking know we've we've
We've, we've tested the, the different components of the previous computers like we've done
at all.
Um, I don't know.
Anyway, don't give me unsolicited tech support, please.
So, uh, it's just, um, we'll do another neighborhood.
Yes.
That's what I'm going to do.
buy an even larger house. Okay. That's what I need to do. Buy a purchase a larger home,
more expensive than ever before. And, and that's how I'm going to fix it.
Custom, buy your third trap. Anyway, where was I? What was I talking about? Oh yeah,
personal news. This is part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news about
about what's going on in the world of Hassan Hassan,
I'm a piker in between the time period
where I press the stop streaming button,
press the start streaming button.
So help me God, that's what I'm gonna do.
Last night I ended the broadcast early
because of the network issues.
The network issues that we were experiencing
became super, super common.
I mean, it just became like unbearable.
So I was like, all right, I'm done.
We've done five hours.
It's fine. It's whatever.
But I was not a chud-ass loser last night.
last night was my best friend Wilnef's birthday and we went to a very special sushi place
and at first when I was invited I was like oh sushi well what are you gonna do I love
Wilnef I will go to the sushi place as you guys know I famously don't eat any seafood
However, however, however, this was such a unique place.
This was such a unique place.
That I had a lot of fish last night.
I had a lot of seafood.
It's kind of crazy.
And that nuts.
I had all different sorts of seafood last night. I had this is the second time in my life that I've actually tried sushi and I liked it.
I liked it. We went to scratch. That's what it's called.
It's a very famous place apparently sushi by scratch restaurants.
And I will tell you this much, it was not fishy at all. This is your whitest trait. I mean what? That I don't eat sushi?
Does it make you sick or you don't like to taste? In the past, it would make me throw up. I couldn't even have seaweed.
Any taste of the sea, I could not stand.
I thought why people love sushi by the way, that's crazy.
But yeah, the sushi that I had was so fresh, I guess, I don't know, I don't know what it
was, but it was so, it was incredible, it didn't taste fishy at all, it could not even taste
to see at all. It just tasted like decadent cuts of wagyu almost. And I could not believe
it. I could not believe it. I could not believe my taste buds. I could not believe my eyes.
blew my mind. And yeah, happy birthday, Will Neff. Changed my life, not just our friendship,
but also changed my life with the sushi moment. Mind boggling, mind boggling, world-changing
events taking place. Anyway, lost to talk about lost discuss ladies and gentlemen. But yeah,
I went to an omakase and I had I had sushi. I had sushi and it was delicious. It was delicious
and I loved it and I don't know if I can ever experience that ever again, you know.
chat update. Yeah, that's my, that's my story. I'm a Son Piker and at the age of 35, I finally,
finally was able to consume fish without throwing up like a baby.
at the luxurious, decadent dining experience who should buy scratch.
Anyway, other than that, I woke up this morning, played some basketball, went on, and MSNAP
Pockets with Eugene and Simone Sanders did that earlier. That's the reason why I was late. I was delayed. I
Apologize for that, but that's exciting. It's gonna be good wholesome and productive conversation
So we shall see we shall see what happens
But did you hog the ball nose 1v1 played well
I've been regaining my my
senses my strength. The more I get attacked, the more powerful I become.
This was the MSNOW podcast, by the way. It wasn't the main show, but we'll see.
We'll see. Have you tried rice? No, I've never had rice. You're asking a Turkish man.
If the Turkish man is at Pilav, ultra ego Hasan. Yeah.
In any case, ladies and gentlemen, boys, girls and embies, that's pretty much it.
That's pretty much it. That's all there is to know. That's all there is to say.
Lots to talk about today. We're going to be covering
scotis defending mail in ballast trump 5k the surgeon yemen russian oligarchs so much
happening in the world um and so much to talk about in general uh i didn't even get to talk about
a lot of the stuff we'll even uh briefly broach the aisop topic once again what is this
Oh my god, this gif is incredible.
So sorry to hear about your boyfriend's terminal brain damages song, what are you talking about Mitch?
Mitchy Mitch, he's bitchy Mitch.
Sushi good, mesh in trunks bad, learning.
Breaking news, Mike Rogers declines the attentionized debate of dual-citing Hassan Piker liking
how the moderator, Root Rogers, behaved in the last debate.
I know we're going to be covering that in a second, and actually we'll start there.
We'll start there.
We'll start there.
We'll start there.
That's right.
Mike Rogers is using the Hassan bad argumentation, which has been very effective on the internet,
ironically enough.
away for some of the worst scumbags online to get away with basically everything short of murder.
Sometimes even, you know, pedophilia and sex crimes. Mike Rogers is now deploying that same
technique, but on the main stage and claiming that he is ducking a debate with Abdul El Sayed
on the grounds that I like Rupraj is Rupraj as a as a local news person isn't
that crazy Mike Rogers in Michigan is cowering in fear of facing
Hey, Michiganders, facing Abdul El Sayed in the marketplace of ideas in the marketplace of Rupraj.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God, please. Please. Stop glorping, please.
It's still a video you can keep talking, I know but I can't because it's terrible for...
Oh my god, oh my god, it's happening out of nowhere, it's happening way more frequently.
What the fuck?
It's shorter, but it's like happening with regular frequency. What is happening? What the fuck is going on?
What is happening? Oh my lord. Oh my lord
What
What okay
Okay performance
Okay, what do you what do you mean keep talking? Yeah, when we talk, yeah, I don't I don't think
that's probably that's the issue with the Bayray 60k upload like there's no it's 700
down 60 up there's no shot it's the internet there's no shot no I don't I
mean that's not no no there's no no no no no just don't don't touch it go with
yesterday's plan say you're going offline and just see your stream it has to
be targeted there's no shot it's random at this point you're not the only Angelina
with bad internet, you obviously shouldn't be having these issues. We have literally
so much. We have fail safes. We have, uh, and the internet is fine. The upload is fine.
It looks like the encoder overload of the fact that the stream remains stable definitely
seems like it's a hardware software thing. Yeah, I don't know. There was something that
I tweaked that's like data testing. I think maybe that's what it is. I still haven't been
able to figure out what the fuck is the, is the real issue here. Is it adaptive quantization?
Is that the reason?
I'm going to turn it off.
Let's see if that fixes it.
It's not.
There's something that we changed in the OBS.
There's something that we changed in the OBS
that I don't know what it is.
But that's the only thing I can point to at this point.
because like, there's something that we change in the output on OBS that has to be the reason for it
because it makes no sense otherwise because the internet is actually so stable right now
I'm kicking it up to 7K on my output
but yeah
And I know it could be an IRL toolkit related problem. It could be an IRL toolkit related
incident. Do not change anything else right now. We shall see. My presets, my keyframe
interval seconds is 2 seconds. The preset is P7. Slowest, best quality. Tuning is high
High quality multi-pass mode is two passes quarter resolution, profile is high, and I
turned off adaptive quantization.
Whatever you just disabled worked, I don't know, I think there's something that I turned
on in my OBS.
Nope, it's not, it's not gone, it's still here.
Bring up task manager, look at performance, download, core, TAMBA, check, GPG, CPU, temp,
no, it's not that.
done that already. We've done that already. Just don't talk about it. Okay, I just won't
talk about it. And then we'll just ignore it, because everyone in chat knows that if
we ignore it, it goes away. And everybody in the chat says, you put it on piece of
slowest the other day which is too much for live usually p6 slow is good multi-pass quarter not full
i don't even know you know what you're talking about but fuck it
um yeah it's multi-pass mode is two passes
you cannot talk about it don't listen to chat we don't know shit
Is it the camera turn off tool kit and a problem fixed trust me it's on okay well we can't
right now because I already started on tool kit but I don't even think it's tool kit.
Spectrum is updating at early infrastructure it's supposed to last eight months I switched
to AT&T after having constant outages I mean that is definitely a real and persistent problem.
Now, it's happening more frequently, whatever I switched, switched to the travel laptop
dog.
The travel laptop was having the same exact issue as well.
Yeah, I think it's, I don't think it's an internet related problem at this stage.
Normally, I would say it's an internet related problem.
Right now, I don't think it's an internet related problem.
I think it's, uh, I mean, it's on rate controls on constant bit rate.
Is that the right thing to just keep it on?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Just take a bat to everything and buy a new operating software.
Okay.
I don't know. I don't know. It just happens. Did you update drivers? Might be a bad driver.
I did. Yes, we did do that. We've done it all. Just pour some disc scaler like CL aired
down your internet tubes. Okay. Time to switch off windows. Okay. This is the part of the
broadcast where I asked for tech support sincerely, and everyone just fucking gives me the dumbest
ideas of all. They're just like, dude, I don't get it. Just like, switch to Linux right now.
Yes, I've swapped the computer. We have we've stress tested every element of the computer.
None of it is I don't know what it is.
It's not it's not twitch related
Increase your buffer
Can you try x 264 instead of nvnc isn't that worse?
Also, I don't even know how to get there hold on
Is that on the video side
Oh, no, it's the, uh, the e-mail encoder, you see.
Heck, if help, log files, upload log files, top of OBS, does it happen on YouTube streaming?
Why are you fucking asking me, there's nothing, dude, I'm gonna ban people that say YouTube
streaming stream on YouTube. Yeah. Um, do you have DDOS protection? You actually are
being targeted by bought farms, dinner static IP address dog dog. That's not what's going
on here. Encoder stuff won't apply until the encoder started and stopped. So none of the
changes you're making apply until it's toggled CBR is correct. What do you mean? Visual corruption
does
wait what the fuck
what the fuck was that
that was weird
yeah I don't know what that was
I don't know man, it's not my PC crashing.
There's just like weird, maybe it reset.
Hopefully there's no issues going forward.
Who knows, right?
It's very strange though,
because I have a crazy good inner right now.
I have like 400 down, 70 up.
Yes, the camera is 60, is 30 FPS, is not 60 right now.
We're trying to reduce it to the best of our ability. God, I hate spending so much time talking about technical issues. It's just so fucking annoying.
Are you on Ethernet or Wi-Fi? I'm on Ethernet.
Alright, let's just blast off. Okay, let's just keep going. Who cares? Fuck it.
This is my life for the rest of my life. I'm just never gonna be able to I'm never gonna be able to have consistent
Reliable internet ever again. It's just it is what it is. I'm forever cursed. Okay. That's it
I'm forever cursed
Just embrace the globe nothing else we can do about it, okay
All right. Our first story of the day is Mike Rogers refusing to debate Abdel El Sayed in the
Michigan race. That's right. Mike Rogers is ducking Abdel El Sayed in one of the four debates,
well, five debates originally that were planned, and instead is saying he is only going to do
two debates. One of the reasons that he gave for why he's ducking one of the debates is because
Because he thinks Rup Raj is a biased moderator.
And the reasons for why he's saying Rup Raj is biased is because he said, I like Rup Raj.
The US Senate debate tonight, we have invited Democrat Abdul El Sayed and Republican Mike
Rogers.
This morning, Rogers team responded to that invite, accusing Fox News Rup Raj of bias
and saying he will not appear.
So let's talk about it with Fox News Rup Raj.
joins us now this morning.
Ruk, just first of all, your
reaction to the declining of the
invitation today.
Well, first of all, good morning,
everyone.
We put the invitation out there
42 days ago, and we invited both
the candidates the day after the
primary was over to appear here
at Fox two.
And unfortunately, we didn't
hear back from the Rogers camp.
Now they did not look at my
beautiful goat, dude.
love this man. I'm unafraid to say it. Okay. I'm unafraid to say it. He's a wonderful guy.
I think he's a good journalist. Okay. No, the cash clearing worked. I don't know for
for now. Wait, really? Okay, college receipt of our invitation initially because we were
doing this on behalf of the Michigan Debate Commission in Oakland University. So essentially
we were going to do a debate at Oakland University with Abdul Al Sayed and Mike Rogers with
one decided and independent college students in the audience. And again, we received receipts
that they got it. And then after that, in the 41 days after that, we didn't hear it
peep. We didn't hear anything from them at all.
And so the first time we heard anything about a response was the Mike Rogers camped through
a spokesperson named Alyssa, putting out a response essentially saying that because
a YouTuber, a Twitch streamer out there named Hasan Piker, who's become somewhat of a political
household name, complimented my debate skills during the Haley Stevens and dual debate.
No, not your debate skills, sir. Your interest in saying the truth and your moderation skills.
That is what I was complimenting, which I think is worthy. I think you demonstrated
skill worthy of a compliment. They thought that that would indicate that I'm somehow biased, when in
fact we're not. Nothing we do at this station is trying to take a side. I mean, we asked some
questions. I think what's going to happen is Rupraj is going to go extra hard on Abdul El Sayed
and specifically myself in an effort to show how impartial he is. That's what I suspect is going
to happen because I guess like instead of having a debate, they're going to have a one-on-one,
right? And in that one-on-one conversation, Rup Raj is going to go super hard, which again,
falls into, I mean, this is an opportunity for Mike Rogers to basically win a debate without
actually participating in it. It's a mistake, but what are you going to do? But that's what I
That's what I predict is going to take place here because, you know, Rupraj wants to showcase his impartiality.
And in an effort to showcase his impartiality, he is going to be somewhat partial.
Sucks.
I have complimented the other moderators as well.
Rupraj has also criticized me already. It's not like this is new.
new. He goes on later to say that he has a lot of questions for you, making it sound as though
you will be there today. Oh my God, about Republicans and Democrats each and every night
on our political talk show, the polls. But as you can imagine, the narrative is the narrative.
And for whatever reason, the Rogers camp did not want to do a debate with Fox two. It is rare
to cite a moderator as a reason not to want to face an opponent. But that is what we have here
this morning.
There we go.
Hey, Rup, what do you say about
the accusation that I believe that
Rogers has said that you referred
to El Sayed as brilliant?
I just want to give you the chance
to explain that because we know
that things can be taken,
words can be taken out of context.
So explain that accusation and
what your response to it.
Yeah, Dina, that was during a
conversation we were having with
the Republican and a Democrat, whereas you know people have all kinds of thoughts the
panelists do about the candidates who are running for office.
And we were framing a question in that moment where people had questioned whether he was
actually a doctor or not a doctor, whether he was qualified for office or not.
And there was also a Democrat there who was highly critical of Mike Rogers.
And in framing my next point, I essentially was saying, look, this is a guy who by all
Accounts is a smart guy. They're both tremendous political athletes. He's a brilliant guy,
a Rhodes Scholar, but certainly you don't have to agree with his politics. That was
the framing of the question. We also, in subsequent conversations, by the way, have
pointed out that Mike Rogers is a maverick. I use that word. I also said he's a really
smart guy who's been in the rooms where it happens, so to speak. I talked about his Capitol
Hill experience and how he's a veteran. I talked about his FBI experience, what makes
can qualify to be a really robust candidate against him like Abdul Al Sayed, who's never
held office before, he's only been appointed in positions within other administrations.
So we made it really clear and every, if someone watches our show each and every night, Dina,
they're gonna know that we have pointed out things about Biden and Harris.
I said the other night that they had a failed border policy and that President Trump-
Yeah, no. I suspect that Rupraj is going to engage in the classic overcorrection in an effort to seem
like there's any kind of parody here, right? In an effort to come across as like extra impartial,
he is going to fall into the classic trap that Republicans engage in. Because if your job as a
The journalist is to be impartial to the truth and to say the truth.
You should abide by that principle no matter what, okay?
You should abide by that principle no matter what.
But Republicans know how to play the referees all the time.
They know how to game it out.
Mike Rogers is unbelievably disrespectful, and the fact that he's avoiding this debate
It is disrespectful to Michiganders, it's disrespectful to Fox2, it's disrespectful to Rupraj.
The idea that my personal feelings about his moderation skills has anything to do, is a
sufficient reason to avoid this debate, is totally ridiculous.
And when Mike Rogers, in an effort to boost his impartiality, credibility, engages in this
experiment, and is far more aggressive, and even tries to promote Mike Rogers to a certain
degree to be like, see, I'm actually pro-Mike Rogers, a matter of fact, is only going to
play into the Republican hands.
Camp says they won't do Fox two debate because the Sompiger called Root Raj my goat after
l says primary debate with Haley Stevens, but a Sompiger also praised Rick Albin after
the wood TV primary debate. I love this guy. This guy's my favorite moderator. What a goat
say it publicly to both of you on a thank you and all my colleagues here at wood TV.
This guy's my favorite moderator. What a great job and helping us from the get go to all
of our partners around the state that are caring say it publicly to both of you on a
I think they're just taking it to the U.S.
This was unironically what Mike Rogers uses an example as a reason for why he won't entertain
this debate.
He said, Michiganders deserve to see their candidates engage in a healthy, fair debate,
not one compromised by media bias.
Rupert Rogers made his position clear from praising Abdull, as brilliant to being celebrated
by Hassan Piker as Mike Goat, and bragging about his political stunts.
Mike looks forward to making his case the working families and making Abdull answer
to voters for the con man he is.
Mike Rogers is not going to say, hey, we have no convincing case, and we're terrified of
debating Abdul Al Sayed.
He's not going to say that.
So he has to look for any reason that he can deliver.
This reason is insufficient.
This reason is ridiculous.
And it's also quite Trumpian as a matter of fact.
And I don't think Michiganders are going to appreciate this.
I don't think you need to stop calling anyone your goat.
I've seen people taking those seriously.
What are you saying, man?
Like are you serious?
You think me saying I like Rup Raj's moderation or I like the other moderator's moderation
and he's my goat is the real reason to avoid a debate?
What are you talking about?
Be for real. Why are we taking what these charlatans are saying seriously?
Are we are we being for real not just him even before that who cares man, what are we doing? What are we doing?
going. Yes, we have to change the way we talk about everything. Hassan, you can't say you
like a candidate. What if they actually get yelled at because you said you like a candidate?
Okay, I'll just fuck off and die then. I'll just go away. Fuck it. I should just stop
doing political commentary because someone might use it to attack a candidate. What is
going on? I expect this kind of attitude from mainstream vehicles. I expect this kind of
attitude from organs of propaganda of the Democratic Party that see that there's a factional
battle taking place. I don't expect this from my own community. Never abide by the cynical
framing that your opposition designs. Why are we playing by their rules? Are you serious?
They won. The moment that you say, oh, well, you know, you should really be careful about
who you say you appreciate as far as their moderation. Okay. Well, then I should stop
also criticizing Israel, right? Because obviously criticizing Israel has led to people saying
I'm anti-Semitic. I should stop advocating for healthcare because obviously these are
very powerful entities in the country that want to make sure that health care is still
for profit. And obviously this is very disruptive. This is very frustrating. I should stop advocating
against American militarism. After all, in virtually every district, there is a point
of industry, a jobs provider that is firmly a part of the military industrial complex.
Do you understand how silly this is?
are we doing? Yeah, why are you not listening to the Republicans criticism, man? What a
disappointment. 58 months sub. When have I, when have I moderated my perspective or changed
my opinion or changed my output because Republicans didn't like it or Republicans used it as a
way to to claim that our worldview is toxic our worldview is wrong of course they believe that
they're republicans they are our opposition of course they're going to say we are wrong
they believe that we're wrong the question is do you believe that we're wrong
do you believe that we should shy away from our positions or should we be bold
Should we demonstrate our anger? Or should we cower in fear? Because, God forbid, a psychopathic
Republican will use our worldview against us, will use and negatively frame things that we're saying
to attack political candidates, to attack debate moderators. I have no connection to Rupraj.
At some point, that demand for compromise is exactly why Democrats lose.
No more are we compromising on our values.
We are taking a principled stance.
What are we doing?
I thought that was the heart of the issue.
I thought this was at the center of the problems that we have with the establishment Democrats.
I thought this was the main issue. Democrats consistently trying to to
cave and capitulate to the cynical framing that Republicans are presenting.
Compromising to Republican framing is how we got here, is how we got Donald Trump not once but twice.
It's totally ridiculous.
Just say the truth.
Just say what you mean.
Stop performing, okay?
You have to come in and fix it.
We talk a lot about President Trump and the policies and the challenges that he faces.
So again, it's a political talk show.
Certainly I don't deny saying that.
I don't think anyone would say a Rhodes dollar is stupid, nobody means, just hit me
alarm here. But the bottom line is this is not, this was taken out of context. But here's
the deal, we don't want to go point to point, point counterpoint. Think of what we zoom
out with, look at the 30,000 foot view. This is a man who's running for one of the most
important race.
Yeah, it's not like they would ever cynically frame any of your words in a totally disingenuous
manner. For example, creating an AI video, something you never actually said or did,
or take one word collision, totally separate videos and splice it together into a video
that completely represents the exact opposite of anything you've ever done or said. Surely
that would never happen for the GOP and fascists. They're very well known to be truthful and
unbiased. Yes. If our opposition, the Republicans, the fascists, MAGA, Trumpism, and even some
establishment Democrats have shown over and over again that they have no investment in
presenting the truth or having a nuanced discussion, then why are we listening to them? Then why
Why are we taking their word?
Why are we taking what they're saying at face value?
Why are we acting like they haven't done this before?
We know who they are.
We know what Fox News is.
We know how Republicans operate.
So never, ever, ever concede on the Republican framing on any issue whatsoever.
Recognize what your worldview is, identify what your true beliefs are, and then frame
the conversation back to what your beliefs are, what you are actually advocating for.
Of course, they're going to constantly try to change the narrative.
Mike Rogers can't say, I'm scared.
He's never going to say, I don't want to face Abdul El Sayed because I'm scared.
I'm shitting in my diabetes.
I'm terrified.
That's the real reason why he doesn't want to do it.
The real reason why he doesn't want to do it is because he does not want to face Abdul
I'll say it four times in a row. He doesn't want to face up the law. Say it right now and get cooked.
Okay. He knows if he runs out the clock to the best of his ability and allow APAC money
to keep him afloat, he'll have a better shot at the title. He knows that that's the case.
So of course, he's going to do everything he can to present the best possible situation for
himself. This is his calculation. But of course, he's not going to say it out loud. It's not going
gonna be like, I don't want to face Abdul El Sayed and get humiliated on the debate stage.
I want to make sure we push that back as long as we possibly can.
He can't say that, so he's gonna come up with a different reason.
And the different reason in this circumstance for Mike Rogers is to claim that there's biases
by the famous award-winning local reporter, Rup Raj.
In the past, in a different media environment, saying something like this in the pre-Trump
world would have been insane.
If you said something like this in the pre-Trump universe before 2016, you would get humiliated.
The entire media would come down on you and say, what are you talking about?
This is a well-respected reporter.
a well-credentialed, well-respected reporter, how dare you accuse him of bias? You are being
disingenuous and inappropriate. But because we live in the pro-strump universe, Republicans get away
with bullying the referees all the time, crying to the referees non-stop.
Because remember, it's not just my comments about Rupraj. They're saying Rupraj has been partial
to Abdul. They're claiming, insincerely, they're claiming falsely that this credentialed, experienced
local news reporter is actually biased for Abdul, biased in the direction of Abdul Al-Sad.
This is inappropriate.
This is one of the most important
Senate seats in our country right
now that will really determine
the balance of power.
They have to make calculations that
they have to make.
I'm not running for anything.
I have the job I want.
I learned what I do.
And I'm not going for anything more
than this.
And so I'm not gunning for clicks.
Dina, it's funny because they said
something in the press release.
I did read the release once and said
about I'm more interested in clicks.
I have one of the lowest
followers, followings of Fox News social media.
I'm not proud of that, but I'm not looking for clicks.
I don't look at responses and read comments all day long.
We have better things to do,
and we have a debate to do tonight.
And we hope that Mike Rogers would be here,
but we wish that he would have just communicated directly
with us instead of having 42 days of silence.
But this isn't a personal-
Hey, Rook, Rook, Rook, Josh here.
You know, not at all.
Rook, Josh here, a question I do have.
Good to see you, brother.
Alluding to your points of Mike Rogers being
a household name for many years.
What has been your direct communication with him
in recent time and has there been any size,
any kind of friction that could have alarmed
at this potential outcome?
Great question, Josh.
No, in fact, I did an interview with Mike Rogers
not long ago, just a few months back.
He was on Zoom and I was in the studio at the Pulse.
We had a great conversation about his experience again
in the federal government at the FBI as a congressman.
We went on, by the way, we can go all the way back to 2024 when Mike Rogers was running
against Alyssa Slotkin.
I hosted a forum and sat down one-on-one with Mike Rogers for a half hour in front of a
chamber at the Motor City Casino.
I have a picture with him, me, Alyssa Slotkin, Mike Duggan, and Martin Manna with the Kaldian
Chamber.
He's smiling, I'm smiling.
There's been no friction between me and Mike Rogers.
And again, I say it again, I'm not gunning for anything, I'm not going for anything.
I like Mike, I've known him and interviewed him for many years.
Rup, thanks so much.
What will tonight look like?
I want to ask you that first and foremost because there was going to be the podium there.
Now that you have the declining of the invitation, will you still have an open podium there?
We will have an open podium there.
Here's the bottom line.
When Jocelyn Benson did not respond to our debate and invitations, didn't decline, didn't
say she wasn't coming at Chris
once and came, we had an open seat
and a microphone there for her.
We said this at the beginning of
that interview, and we'll say it
again during this interview.
For whatever reason, in this
political cycle, things change
within on the fly, on the dog.
Come on by. This is not a prop.
This is not a joke.
This is an important race. We
realize the importance of it, and
that's why more than 40 days ago,
We want to do two podiums and two microphones and we wish and hope that you'll come, not
for us.
This isn't something to do as a favor to Fox two, but rather to talk directly to the
voters.
And so yes, we will have a podium there today and he is more than invited, even as this
cycle is so robust and quick, if things change, he's more than welcome to join us at 7 PM
tonight.
Hey, Rup, what are the, as much as you can reveal, but when is the decision made?
Should we cancel the debate or should we just keep hoping that we can actually get a robust
discussion?
Number one, and number two, how do you get-
If anything, it's time to start talking about how much he likes every news host or debate
moderator.
He's just, if they're going to pull this shit, make them own it, give them ammunition.
It doesn't matter.
I have done that already.
This is disingenuous framing anyway.
They're going to use it at- Guys, this is not a sufficient reason to duck one of the
the four pre-established debates, okay?
Do you understand?
They're just, it doesn't matter.
It does not matter.
It does not matter that I said I like this one guy.
Hello.
Because guess what?
It's not a reasonable argument to present.
That's number one.
And number two, it's not sincere.
It's not. They're not being sincere. You don't have to, you don't have to agree with the underlying premise of this argument. It's not correct. It's incorrect. You need to tackle the premise. You need to identify with the underlying premises here and tackle it.
Yeah, you're right. This is a dog ate my homework level of excuse.
Here's the thing. This is also a very bad look. Okay, this is an unbelievably bad look
for Mike Rogers. And I'm willing to bet, I'm willing to bet that Michiganders that see
Mike Rogers run away from this debate are going to be pissed off.
Rogers is trying to utilize the, uh, Mike Rogers basically yelling at the refs, okay?
It can backfire.
The referees can be extra hard on him, especially because they have disrespected a colleague,
a respected colleague of theirs, Rupraj, or it can work.
And the referees are extra hard on Abdul in a way that they normally wouldn't.
And they're just like aggressively, you know, prosecuting Abdul's case, even though Mike
Rogers is, is left untarnished in that endeavor specifically to show that they are impartial,
right?
They could technically engage in an overcorrection, or they could just, you know, do their job
honestly, and then maybe even turn it around on Mike Rogers and talk about how his, his
inability to show up for this, says something. It says something about what his intentions
are for this role and how he will govern, how he will represent or fail to represent
his constituents as a senator. It's not like Republicans haven't tried a version of this
Over and over again, they've done the, I was told that there would be no fact checking. You remember that one?
Remember that, Jim?
Why are you fact checking me?
You're biased because you're fact checking me. That's basically what Mike Rogers is doing in this instance. That's what Donald Trump did.
The difference between Donald Trump and Mike Rogers, however, is that
Mike Rogers doesn't have the the telegenic presence that Donald Trump used to have.
He doesn't really have it anymore either. He's lost a step.
But J.D. Vance trying that was a failure.
Because it's not your job to debate, Abdul Al-Sahed, right?
I mean, how do you create that debate environment without somebody there to debate him?
Well, I think the bottom line is, Justina, I mentioned that I interviewed Mike Rogers back in 2024,
and Alissa Slotkin at what was essentially a forum. It was essentially the Kaldian chamber
me and the candidates on stage separately asking them the tough questions that the people at home
want asked. Abdul Al Sayed is not here for a free pass. He's not here to have a campaign stump or
speech. Instead, he's going to be answering questions directly from our studio audience
and people who are texting questions to us when having an opportunity for people to say,
Hey, I want to know about this. Are you taking packed money? You keep criticizing the others
for taking packed money. Where is your money coming from? Who have you gotten money from?
Why haven't we talked about that? You say you're not a socialist, yet you have seemingly
unbashingly support from those who identify as socialists at your campaign stops, yet they
haven't endorsed you. How do people trust that you're not going to send your votes into a socialist
state and vote for socialist agenda. There's a lot of great questions that we can talk about.
I mean, his association with Hassan Piker, he says he doesn't want to talk about it. But
look, there was back in the day in the 80s that Jesse Jackson told Lewis Farrakhan,
bug off. I don't want you campaigning with me anymore because you're divisive.
Laura Loomer and Donald Trump, Ted Nugent and Mitt Romney. So there are a lot of questions that we
have for Hassan Piker and a lot of those are coming from the audience, both through text
and in the audience behind us, as well as my own questions.
You mentioned the audience, that has also been a part of the rejection for Mike Rogers
campaign.
Who is in the audience tonight?
What can you tell us about the audience?
Because that was part of their reasoning for declining.
And since that one time, the bottom line is they were citing one of the debates that
we did in which there was audience members who asked questions who were former political
people who worked in the comms for different politicians.
And so they weren't identified as such when they asked the question.
I take full blame for that.
I don't have a problem with someone criticizing the way we do things.
We're not perfect.
They're not perfect.
But the bottom line is we know that that didn't appear great.
I didn't like that either.
But the end of the day, this time and the last time, by the way, that we did an debate,
we didn't have any of those.
worked in politics before. These are regular men and women. These are school teachers. These
are people who work at nonprofits. These are people who work not for political offices,
but for nonprofits and for organizations throughout Metro Detroit. And just regular
people like us are going to be sending the audience as well. So we have about 20 audience
members that are coming booked by various members of the community through different
alliances that we have, not political. And so we look forward to hearing their questions as well.
Well, Rube has a lot of questions.
It is interesting, Rube.
Wait, did he say he has a lot of questions for me?
The answering questions directly from our studio audience
want to know about this.
Are you taking PAC money?
You keep criticizing the others for taking PAC money.
Where is your money coming from?
Who have you gotten money from?
Why haven't we talked about that?
You say you're not a socialist, yet you
have seemingly unbashingly support
from those who identify as socialists
at your campaign stops,
yet they haven't endorsed you.
How do people trust that you're not
going to send your votes into
a socialist state?
And how, wait, what?
What does that even mean?
How do people trust that you're
going to send your votes to a
socialist state?
What does that even mean, Rup?
Like, what are you talking about?
Can you imagine the question of
being like, you have a lot of
Trump supporters that want to
vote for you. How can people know that you won't be a Republican? The idea that a candidate
gets broad support from different ideological factions that make up this beautiful and diverse
country is a bad thing, is ridiculous. That is ridiculous. What are we doing? Why is this,
Why is it that the hidden underlying premise in this argument always is socialism is this
alien concept, this foreign concept, it's bad, it's wrong.
Americans can't have socialist opinions.
Americans can't have positive feelings about pre-existing socialist constructs that already
happen to work in this country, whether it be Social Security or Medicare.
And vote for Socialist Agenda, there's a lot of great questions that we can talk about.
I mean, his association with Hassan Piker, he says he doesn't want to talk about it.
But look, there was back in the day in the 80s that Jesse Jackson told Lewis Farrakhan,
fund off.
I don't want you campaigning with me anymore.
Dawg, the comparison between me and Lewis Farrakhan is crazy.
Like if I had a direct conversation with someone like Rupras, you'd be like, we would probably
find many agreements.
probably have some reasonable disagreements as well, but like that is a crazy, crazy assessment.
Again, I just wish that people, I just wish that people would say the truth, okay? I just wish
that people would say the truth. I just did the MSNOW conversation with Eugene and Simone Sanders.
Simone Sanders and I have been on stages together. She doesn't agree with everything that I believe.
She's just plenty of criticisms that she has for my worldview, but we can have a normal and
nuanced conversation. We can have a reasonable back and forth. The idea that I'm like Lewis Farrakhan
or David Duke is ridiculous, okay? It's ridiculous and it's wrong. It's not only, it's just wrong
and it's wrong in a way that people can see it, right? I don't, I find this very frustrating. I
I find this exercise very, very frustrating and I think it also feeds into the credibility
crisis that mainstream reporters and even local, local outlets are currently embroiled
in.
No, it's not Fox News, it's Fox Local.
It doesn't matter, it's different.
It's a local Fox affiliate.
Because you're divisive, Laura Loomer and Donald Trump, Ted Nugent and Mitt Romney.
So there are a lot of questions that we have for Hasan Piker and a lot of those are coming
from the audience, both through Ted.
A lot of questions that we have for Hasan Piker, I think he just mixed up my name with
Abdul in that moment.
I don't think he literally means yes questions for me, you know what I mean?
and in the audience behind us, as well as my own questions.
You mentioned the audience, that has also been a part of the rejection for Mike Rogers
campaign.
Who is in the audience tonight?
What can you tell us about the audience?
Because that was part of their reasoning for declining.
And since that one time, the bottom line is they were citing one of the debates that
we did in which there was audience members who asked questions, who were.
I mean, I'll be down.
I'll be down to talk the root.
If you want to talk to me, you can talk to me.
I'm an independent person.
I, I'm not a part of the Abdul al-Said campaign.
I find it very, I find it very odd that this is the, the narrative, right?
I find it very odd that like this, this narrative is set in where it's like, oh,
No, you're not an individual media entity.
You're not your own person.
You are attached to the hit to Abdul El Sayed.
Call them tonight.
So much of this is just entertaining a falsehood.
So much of this is just like concocted media narrative
that takes a life of its own.
It's very frustrating.
It's also unproductive.
It's a disservice to the Michiganders.
It's a disservice to people of good conscience in Michigan who want to fucking figure out
who they want to vote for, right?
Because at the end of the day, at the end of the day, the purpose of this, what happened
was there was there a audio blip or like some some issue what anyway at the end of the day
the entire purpose of of mainstream media the entire purpose of local news organizations is
to arrive at the truth and to to get people to be aware of certain issues and to get them to make
Whatever decision is right for them in this election cycle, right?
You got two candidates. You got a Republican. You got a Democrat. They're running against one
another in this contentious Senate election, okay? Your job as a responsible media figure
is to try to ask contentious questions to both Abdul and to Mike Rogers as well,
but questions that actually arrive at the truth, questions that are ultimately instructive,
four
Michiganders that are tuning in to try to differentiate between the two candidates
That's the purpose
It's very frustrating that every day we just move further and further away from that ultimate goal. It's I don't like it
I don't like it at all
Anyway, apparently just guitar cough went on Jewish insider and spoke about me
In her new book, Fox News co-host Jessica Tarlove advocates for constructive disagreement,
acknowledged without accepting or hearing someone out as hard as it may be without torturing
the relationships or one's own beliefs in an interview with Jewish insider.
Ahead of Tuesday's release of I Disagree, winning arguments without losing friends,
Tarlove pointed to her closely watched sit down last year with Father Shrima Sompiker
as evidence of her framework holds.
Even when she's when strained against his limits, Piker was incredibly nice and gracious,
recalled, arguing that calls for him to be shut out of democratic circles are misguided.
The exchange highlights the balancing act central to both Tarlah's book and her on-air
image as the primary liberal co-host on the Fox's talk show, The Five.
But in her conversation with Jewish insider, Tarlah, who is Jewish, noted that there is
sometimes discomfort in that instinct to engage across the lines, the thesis of her book.
She said she finds her unease in New York City Mayor Zahram al-Dani's campaign appearance
with Columbia University's anti-Israel activist, Mahmoud Khalil, accusation that Israel committed
genocide and just how much attention piker's commentary is getting in a divided democratic
party how much of the discourse is dominated by a piker and those kinds of discussions
just a general turn off of the democratic party tarlotte told you jewish insider and
people don't necessarily feel like we're getting the news because there's so much focus on
the infighting she pointed to michigan's upcoming senate race between democrat abt
lsade and former rep mike rogers as a key test of just how deep those divisions run
it will be a really interesting test as to how divided the party actually is along the
the lines of this issue and who comes around to al-sayed who goes through with voting for
Mike Rogers or sitting home.
Despite her willingness to engage with Piker, Tarlav argued the wall-to-wall focus on him
has become its own kind of distraction from the issues actually most important to voters.
She's right.
She's right.
This is unproductive.
This is exactly the argument that I was presenting earlier, okay?
This is exactly what's wrong with corporate media nowadays.
This is exactly what is frustrating for average everyday Americans that tune in to mainstream
outlets to try to identify what the fuck is going on.
That's the whole purpose, right?
You tune in, you're supposed to turn on the television and hear the newsman tell you about
the news, tell you about what's important, tell you about what's going on in the world.
If you turn on the TV and you tune into Fox News, or you tune into MSNOW, you tune into
CNN, you tune in to all these different outlets, and you leave that experience dumber than
you started, then mainstream media has failed.
And unfortunately, because of our tendency to chase clicks, our tendency to chase headlines,
our tendency in mainstream outlets to the American tendency, when I say our, the attitude
demonstrated by many prominent corporate media outlets, the interest in generating headlines,
setting narratives, and following those narratives, meta-chasing has left people less informed
than they otherwise would be.
This is a real issue and Jessica Tarlove is correct on this.
She is right.
We should be able to have nuanced discussions
about issues that are divisive.
We should be able to have conversations with people who we disagree with
without those conversations turning into shouting matches.
Okay?
But we are so far away from that world.
I think especially at a time when the internet has made this environment far more hostile,
made disagreements impossible to contend with.
Legacy publishers and mainstream outlets have a unique opportunity to say, all right, we're
just going to have a real conversation, we're going to have a sit down, we're going to have
an hour-long discussion with this controversial figure. We're going to have a real debate.
This is what used to happen on television, right? Gore Vidal versus William F. Buckley
or even Noam Chomsky versus Foucault. This is how things used to operate. When there
was far less diversity, when there was far less diversity in terms of the television
is that you could get your news from. Back in the day, there were still biased narratives,
but at least there was more of an investment in trying to identify opposing figures and hearing
them out. Malcolm X was allowed on television, right? Can you imagine a world where a Gore-Vidal
versus William F. Buckley style conversation could ever take place in Maestro Mallets now?
I can't. I don't see that vision. I don't see that universe. Can you imagine a world where someone like Malcolm X would would be able to go on television and explain what their position is?
We have no investment.
investment. We have no investment in truthful narratives any longer and we have no investment
in identifying disagreements, solving problems, having reasonable nuanced discourse on issues
that are otherwise hot-button issues contentious. It's all topsy-turvy. Ironically enough, those
Those kinds of discussions do take place, even though it's sometimes silly, sometimes
sinister, but those discussions do take place in independent media.
It shouldn't be that way.
It's ridiculous.
I do think the discourse being about him 24-7 is really ignoring what most people are concerned
about in their life.
They're thinking my gas prices are up and we're like Hassan Piker. That's just really missing the mark
Last November when tarlock found herself seated even this article Jewish insider not focusing on Jessica Tarloff's new book
But instead making the conversation entirely about her opinions about me is yet another example of this now, of course
given
That her book is about you know entertaining tough
Conversations it kind of makes sense, but like this is a
This is the proof. This is the the point. It's almost it's it's meta commentary.
Last November, when Tarla found herself seated next to PyGround, a panel of quick immediate
quick account, she said she was nervous going in, given how divisive of an issues past rhetoric,
including justifies Hamas, October 7 terrorist attacks, saying America deserved 911 had already
become, but she found him friendly and even took some of his feedback under consideration.
The one thing he did say to me, which did resonate, was that the only criticism of what
I do is that I'm too hard on the progressive left.
I spent a lot of time thinking about that, and ultimately, I do think that he's right.
It had been much easier for me to insult AOC, for instance, and it was kind of low-hanging
fruit.
And there are enough people now who aren't even necessarily in the far left party who
want things like universal health care.
The center party, the center part of the party, hasn't been talking about affordability issues
in a way that is connecting like mom daddy did in the mayor election or what we're not
talking enough about building affordable housing. I thought that was a good note. She added asked
the Democrats should be should more vigorously condemn piker was over three million twitch
followers or banish him from the party circles. Tarlov rejected the premise. The idea of us
deciding who has legitimacy or platforming when someone has that platform of that size already
missing the point. She said, I show up every day and talk to people who I disagree with.
In some cases, people who believe in things that I'm deeply against. If you don't engage,
You leave open this chasm for other people to fill it. I'm not running to be honest on stream.
I wasn't invited either, but I do think this idea was not right. By the way, I have invited
Jessica Tarlove, our queen, okay? Our liberal queen, the vanguard of the Bastion of Liberal
Defense on Fox News. But I do think this idea that we're not going to platform him,
when he has a bigger platform than most of the people who are saying they have no interest in
having him is a little bit embarrassing. Parlov's prominent role as the only Jewish
panelist on the five is coincided with Fox News catching the eye of some liberal leading
American Jews who felt that in the aftermath of October 7 attacks, much of the mainstream
coverage was biased against Israel. Parlov said she brings up a Jewish background on air,
including her family's history of fleeing Europe ahead of the Holocaust in her own run-in,
with rising anti-Semitism as a student in London two decades ago. Because I think it's relevant,
and I have a pretty mainstream Jewish perspective on what's going on in the Middle East and what
what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has done, and the aftermath of October 7th,
she told Jewish Insider, I draw on it explicitly because I think it's important for viewers
to know there is a Jewish person who is saying this, who is not just someone with an opinion,
and that I have a real connective tissue to the religion and to Israel.
In terms of being more culturally Jewish, I do think October 7th changed everything.
For many non-practicing Jews in this country where it became such a bigger part of our
identity, and we were more attuned to discussions about Judaism and Israel in general, and it
It has made us more interested in being affiliated with the religion.
It just becomes a more prominent part of your identity when something like that happens,
she continued.
While her cultural connection to Judaism deepened after October 7, Farlaw is no stranger to
anti-Semitism in her book.
She recounts heated politics over Israel during her time at London School of Economics and
former London Mayor Ken Livingstone's controversial rhetoric during his 2012 campaign to reclaim
the office.
Farlaw told Jewish inside of the period, shaped my current political perspective and felt
like a foreshadowing of current climate on U.S. college campuses. You can draw a
straight line from those experiences to what happened at Columbia, she said. If
there had been an igniting event like October 7, you could easily see how it
would spill over into something like that. I'm a little bit embarrassed that I
didn't understand the gravity in fullback when it was going on, but I
definitely see important comparisons. And as someone who likes to look at
policies from sociological lens, how much writing was on the wall? This was
really an international movement that got so powerful in what feels like a
short period of time. Anyway, that's a summary or a brief insight into
just Katar Lavz's operation. It's a very nice verdict to defend me on Jewish Insider.
And I do think that it goes a long way when you actually meet people, where they're at,
even if you have deep disagreements with them.
And I think we have to continue doing that.
We have to continue doing that.
This was a remnant of Woke 1.0, the idea that our opposition is wrong, and therefore we
cannot deal with them.
They must be banished.
It's great.
It's a wonderful idea.
It's just not going to happen.
We are the ones who get fucking banished, okay?
We are not in charge, okay?
We are not in charge.
We do not run the government, and we don't even have adequate political representation
that is proportional to the masses and their beliefs, okay?
In an environment like this, the idea that like we get to run the discourse, we get to
run away from these conversations is basically self-banishment, okay?
It's not my job to educate you mentality of Woke 1.0 was a real burden, okay?
But once again, time and time again, whether it be my interactions with the Pod Save America
guys, whether it be my interaction with the Jess Katarlaw and all these other people, it
shows that we can have deep disagreements, but we can still have normal conversations.
And through those normal conversations, there could be something productive that comes out
of that. Okay? It isn't my job to educate people who want me dead. Yes it is. You want
to know the truth? Yes it is. Okay? I know that the environment is stacked against you.
I do it all the time. I try to explain to people the dangers of Islamophobia, despite
the fact that they want me murdered, despite the fact that they say I'm a terrorist who
loves 9-11. Why do I do that? Because I understand that if I give up, who's going to take that mantle?
Should we just sit by and expect someone else to do the education in our stead? Okay, we can't,
we can't do that. I think at this point, pretty apparent, right, that I can, that I have a reasonable
amount of Islamophobic attacks that I've withstood and I still continue to talk about these issues.
The reason why I don't shy away from it, the reason why I don't say, hey, it's not my job to educate people on Islamophobia
Is or or it's not my job to educate people and and try to connect with them on how
Uh, the the uh, Islamophobic narratives, uh, you can draw a direct line
from hatred of muslims
Uh, to hatred hatred of muslims in the entire world
To to how much of our productive output and our productive resources are going to fucking murder muslims overseas
That could go back to building our schools in our neighborhoods building our roads building our potholes fixing our goddamn
ISPs and our infrastructure
It's important it's important to sit back and regardless of the attacks that we're facing to explain that to people
Okay, but it's literally your job. I know
It's our it's the job of all of us. Let's be real
That's why I always stress the importance of you know, trying to
Normal and educate people regardless of how oppositional they might be to your world view
Not every single person is a cynical actor not every single person is a fucking Nazi, right?
There are those of there are you know people with opinions like that
Out there, but we have to we have to consistently. Yes agitate educate and organize
The idea that like it's, I mean, I think it's poisonous.
I think it's like, it truly poisonous to be like, oh no,
we're just not gonna have these conversations.
We're gonna move away from it.
Like we're just gonna, we're just shy away from,
from trying to educate the masses.
Like socialism is a mass movement, okay?
We have to speak to the masses.
We have to be one with the masses.
We have to organize the masses.
And you can't do that by saying,
it's not my job to educate you.
Of course, we have to educate people and guess what, you know, who's never saying that fucking
fascist.
They never say it's not my job to educate you.
Now, of course, you could say, well, from their perspective, they are another ones that
are being dehumanized and you're right, you're right.
I know, I know from now, my personal experience being in the crosshairs of this new wave of
Islamophobia that is almost as bad, if not worse than the post 9-11 environment,
I know what it's like to be fucking dehumanized. Okay? There are millions of Americans who will
never listen to what I have to say that would have listened to what I had to say if my name
wasn't Hassan. Okay? If I didn't grow up in Turkey, if I grew up in Kentucky and my name was Henry,
those Americans would be far more willing to listen to me. But I don't stop. Okay? I don't
stop and say, Oh, it's not my job to try and reach out to these people. Of course I'm going to
continue doing it. Okay. And I hope that my experience in this and my steadfastness here will,
you know, give you guys some inspiration as well.
Yeah, and if we don't, if we say things like, hey, it's not my job to educate you, people
will Google the issue and find, hi, I'm Dennis Prager, and it is my job to educate you.
And by educate you, it's brainwash you into believing the most reactionary framing on
any particular issue on any given day.
You think that most of the American people despise you just because you're Muslim and
your name is Hassan?
Most of American people don't despise me.
Most American people don't know who I am.
But yes, the ones who despise me, to a great degree, have heard the most negatively framed
attitudes, the most negatively framed conversations, and instead of scratching the surface and
like examine what I'm actually saying and identify what the root causes, they just hear
a guy whose name is Hassan, who's been presented as a terrorist, a radical Islamist who wants
to do Islamic jihad in the United States of America, and they go along with that.
Those people, if my name was Hank Patterson, would probably not believe that I am in favor
of radical Islamic jihad.
The question for you is, do you believe that?
Do you think I'm a Islamic fundamentalist?
Do you think that I want Sharia law in the United States of America, whatever you might
think is Sharia law?
Or do you think it's all bullshit?
Do you understand?
I know you're trying to get out of this.
You're trying to get a clip out of this to say, Hoson Piker thinks like, it's not because
he said America deserve 9-11, but because he's Muslim, that people are yelling at him.
Okay? That's not what I'm saying. There are plenty of people who have said that exact
same sentiment and has expressed that exact same sentiment and said far worse as a matter
of fact at a far worse timeline. And yet, and yet no one ever brings it up because those
people are Bill Maher or Pat Robertson or numerous other people who are on the right
or white. Who gets to talk about 9-11 and how matters? That's it. That's it. And no
matter how much I push back on this, of course, people were going to say, no, you said what
you said, you love 9-11, you enjoy it, and you want it to happen more frequently. And
that is precisely the reason why people are yelling at you.
You are trying to rationalize something that is utterly irrational.
Okay.
Here before taking the Pentagon,
Prescript Cuba,
Loomer said us may need another 9 11.
Why does no one ever bring up Laura Loomer's comments about 9 11 with the
exception of this one MSNOW piece all the way back from June 11,
2026.
She said that. In order for Americans to understand the dangers of Islamic terror,
US might need another 9-11. She said that.
Is that comment associated with Laura Loomer?
Does that follow her along everywhere she goes? No, of course not. She's also a 9-11
Truther herself. That's my point. That is my point. Sometimes it's important to take
a deep breath and ask yourself, am I advancing this narrative because of who this person
is and maybe certain things about his background that is leading me to believe that this is
a salient narrative that I will continue egging on, or is this sincere?
It's hard for me to take this as a sincere mode of criticism, a sincere point of criticism
when so many of these other people that are advancing that same exact narrative have said
worse shit about 9-11 than I have.
Things that they haven't apologized for.
I apologized for it in 2019.
One day after I said what I said, for years it wasn't a big deal and now it's back to
being a big deal.
Does that not interest you at all how this became a big deal once again?
Is that not, does that not strike you as odd?
Anyway, I know why it's happening, and I will continue saying the truth.
It's happening not only because I have positions that many people in positions of power find
to be dangerous, right?
But it's also happening because for the first time ever in this last election cycle, I decided
to roll up the fucking sleeves and get more directly involved in campaigns.
And worst of all, we started winning.
You understand?
That is the reason why even after 2024, when all these Alps were like, oh, is this the
Sampagos or the Drow Rogue to the left?
They all turned around and started saying no this guy's actually a very dangerous person. We got to get rid of him
We got to get rid of him now. He's a libel. He's a libel. He's fucking bullshit
Yeah
Does it not strike anyone as odd that the level of enmity coming from
established halls of power against me and this community is far more powerful and far worse than anything actual literal neo-nazis have experienced.
Does that not strike anybody as odd? Do you not see an inconsistency here?
The Democrat politicians, the Democratic politicians rise up in arms when Milo Annopoulos or Richard
Spencer attended and conducted rallies at University of Texas, at University of Washington,
state schools by the way, that have to abide by First Amendment protections. Republicans
fought hard to ensure that. It's not odd, I've seen Brigades before. I mean, this level though with
like, listen guys, Gamergate happened, right? And they presented themselves as caring about
ethics in video game journals. And we now laugh at that, right? We know that that wasn't the case.
But Gamergate was comprised of a coordinated smear campaign and troll ops or gay ops or
whatever it's called on 4chan and all these other circles. It was entirely an internet invention.
This is Gamergate at the level of the US government. There's a difference between a bunch of like-minded
weirdos on the internet, a bunch of shut-ins getting together to manufacture outrage controversy,
to ruin the lives of a particular person that they don't like, whether they be a video game
reporter, whether it be like a feminist or whatever, versus billionaires getting together
and deciding Macklemore can no longer perform as the front, as the, you know, the opener
for Ed Sheeran.
That's not a real coalition of people, that's just one person or maybe ten people with incredible
amounts of power that have decided what is appropriate and what's inappropriate.
That's not democracy, that's the exact opposite.
That's completely unacceptable.
And in this moment, it's actually directly at odds with the majority position.
It's directly at odds with the moral position, but it's also directly at odds with the majority
position.
You rarely have moments like this where the moral position is also held by the majority.
This doesn't happen normally.
Okay?
Often times, those who hold on to the moral position have a hard time reaching collective consciousness,
have a hard time reaching the majority.
This is not one of those moments.
This is not one of those moments at all.
And yet, those in positions of power are exercising their power.
They're exercising how much consolidated power and influence they have to change the outcome
against the desires of the masses.
This is ridiculous.
It's utterly unacceptable.
Phineas and all the Irish bands have dropped out of the Ed Sheeran tour, yeah.
We have made the decision to depart as Ed Sheeran's band on the remaining U.S. Loop
tour following the silencing of Maglemore by Zionist lobbies.
Phineas, artists must not be silenced when they speak up for the oppressed.
I have decided to withdraw my upcoming tour days with Ed Sheeran.
I stand with Palestine and its people.
I've made the decision to withdraw as a support act on Ed Sheeran's The Loop North American
tour.
I don't take the decision lightly and it has been a friend of friend to me and has changed
my life.
And I could never thank him enough for this.
Irish people, we all know too well about genocide, force, famine, and violent occupation.
I cannot stand by and allow billionaires to use their position of power to silence the
rightful voices of those who speak up against Israeli genocide and who highlight the savage
murder of children.
I would lose all respect for myself to carry on as normal.
I need to be true to myself and my ancestors who have just resisted colonization and fought
for a freedom that I enjoy today in Ireland.
Palestine's Aaron Rowe.
This is solidarity.
The last opener dropped as well.
Lucas Graham.
It's hard to watch families in other parts of the world burying the people that they
love.
We should be able to speak about war, about civilians being killed, about children who
deserve to grow up, wherever they live, whatever flag flies over them.
I grew up in Christiania, a small community in Denmark where speaking your mind was a
part of everyday life. Having more money didn't make your opinion worth more than anyone
else's. Money doesn't give you the right to own the conversation. Wow.
Nobody's bank bow should decide who gets to speak or which suffering we're allowed to
acknowledge. I love Ed and I'm grateful everything we shared that hasn't changed, but I can't
put these words out into the world and carry on with this tour as things stand. We're withdrawing
from the remaining dates. I'm sorry we won't be there. This is a difficult decision, but
it's one I need to stand by. Wait, this is Ed Sheeran's own band. Oh my god, wait, Bioga
is the is the band? It's his own band? I thought they were an opener. Oh my god. Oh, this
This is what solidarity looks like, by the way.
This is what solidarity looks like.
This is people in the spotlight sticking their neck out to make sure that people understand
that they recognize what's happening here, they know right from wrong, and that this
is unacceptable.
Aaron Rowe was Ed Sheeran's tour opener, Irish singer.
I didn't know Beogo was the actual band or one of his bands.
Like two thirds of the show is solo and they play the rest.
Wow.
One day I hope to see this level of solidarity across the board.
but this is great. This is how it's supposed to be done.
Anyway, we will read Ed Sheeran's, yeah, oh, Niles, then I've had a really good take,
By the way, the Macklemore-Ed Sheeran thing is just a reminder that some people hate the
courageous, but almost everyone hates the cowardly.
Yeah.
Because Ed Sheeran's disastrous reaction to being pressured by Robert Kraft, the Zionist
billionaire pervert, by the way, was universally condemned.
condemned, despised by everyone that encountered it. They were like, what are you doing? You fucked
over your friend for saying the truth. Not only saying the truth, but also saying the truth that
the masses also agree with, that your fans also agree with, that your openers also agree with,
that your band also agrees with. It's just the truth. This level of child murder cannot go unnoticed.
We're still in 2026 punishing people for saying the truth?
It's totally ridiculous.
Now of course, these are artists.
They have a level of independence, they have a degree of independence, they have more of
an investment in the truth ironically enough than many mainstream reporters do because we're
obviously experiencing something similar in mainstream reporting right now with the way
that people talk about myself.
With the demands for the platform and with the constant attempts to cancellation, I wish
that my colleagues in legacy publishers would learn this exact same lesson.
Because I know that there are plenty of them who see what's going on.
I don't think it's time. I don't think it's it's it's necessary to stay in the sidelines still.
Their labels will try to punish them for this. Unfortunately, I don't think they can punish
all of us that's the whole point
they can't punish all of us
it's fascinating to see how different people react when faced with the prospect of sacrifice of
it sharon chose
who saw was a close friend of the twenty thousand passengers killed by israel over
their murders and enables enablers like robert craft worst case scenarios that he
would have had to find another venue for his concert
He'd still be a superstar, he'd still be a multi-millionaire, but no, he just had no choice.
Yeah, the fact that Ed Sheeran is a 400-millionaire makes this even worse.
Because there is a legal process here that they could have advanced.
You cannot void these contracts without a significant penalty.
You cannot void these contracts without receiving tremendous amounts of negative coverage.
This is exactly what Robert Kraft was facing.
At that point, the question remains, does Robert Kraft love Israel that much?
That he is willing to destroy, that he's willing to throw away profits?
I don't think so.
I don't think so. No. Robert Kraft made a bet. He knew that Ed Sheeran had played his
wedding. He knew that Ed Sheeran had visited Israel. He knew that Ed Sheeran was malleable.
He made a bet and he won that bet only because of Ed Sheeran's cowardice. He knew that if
he went directly to Ed and told him, cut it out, that Ed would follow along. He would
play ball. That's the problem here. If Ed Sheeran had said, I'm sorry, I can't in good
conscious do this. I've known Macklemore for years. I agree with his perspective. You and
I might have a reasonable disagreement on this, but it's totally unacceptable to do
this and it will cause more controversy for you than you want to deal with. He could have
pushed back and he would have been seen as a legend. He would have been regarded as a
hero in spite of those things that he's done in the past. And instead, he was
spineless in a moment where it mattered. And now, his tourists collapsing in front
of our eyes. People oppose him. People are frustrated. But let's see what Ed Sheeran
had to say, because Ed Sheeran also released a statement, right? Let's see
what he had to say. Does anyone have Ed Sheeran's statement? If we, of good
conscience, don't speak out in moments like this, we allow billionaires to win
the day. We have to continue pushing in order to let truth prevail, okay? It might seem
minuscule, it might seem marginal. You might say to yourself, who cares? All these are
a bunch of very rich fucking celebrities who gives a shit. This is unbelievably impactful,
dude, okay? It's impactful. You have these wealthy people opposing one of the wealthiest
people on the planet and potentially casting aside revenue for it. Okay.
It's big. It's a big deal. I don't think we should say it's insignificant,
especially considering that it was clearly significant enough for Ed Sheeran
to take this position, to side with the billionaires, to side with Israel's genocide.
Now we'll cover Ed Sheeran's horrible response.
Oh, Jesus.
I'm appalled by the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
The suffering and pain caused on both sides a human tragedy, both sides.
Both sides on a genocide in 2026 in the big 226. Come on, Ed. Come on, Ed. No comments
Closed off the comments here. Hmm interesting
There are too many wars across the world causing immeasurable pain
None of us should be tolerated. Macklemore asked to join my tour last year and I agreed because I respect him as an artist
As with all my support acts
I agree that they play a set list of their choosing after Macklemore's performance at my New Jersey shows
venues on my upcoming tour days communicated that they would pull the shows if he was still supporting I was informed that this
Stance was based on how Macklemore conveyed part of his message during his performance rather than on everything that was said
I spoke with venues at length all week to try to build a bridge one of those people was Robert Kraft
I was also involved in direct talks promoters along with activists on both sides on both sides
Like the pro genocide activists against the anti genocide activists again both sides both sides both sides
There are no both sides in this conversation
There are no both sides to saying children should not be slaughtered.
I'm sorry, Ed.
The fuck do you mean both sides?
Everyone knows I am proud of this movement.
I am proud of the pro-Palestinian movement and its steadfast nature that this kind of
attitude demonstrated in October 2023 would have been welcomed by the masses.
yet three years in to Israel's barbaric genocide and the steadfast nature of the pro-Palestine
movement that the masses now know that these kinds of statements are nonsense. There is no
both sides to genocide. There is no both sides in the slaughter, the wholesale slaughter of children.
Okay? Ed's audience knew Macklemore. Ed's audience knew and liked what Macklemore had
to say. Perhaps they even assumed that this was an endorsement made by Ed Sheeran. Unbelievable.
I was informed that this stance was based on how Macklemore convey part of his message during
performance rather than everything that was said, I spoke with venues at length,
da-da-da-da-da, activists on both sides, tried to find a mutual resolution for all,
but the venues and promoters decision was final.
Macklemore coming off tour was the promoters decision, it was not mine.
Macklemore's contract for the tour was with the promoter, not me.
And then abdicating your responsibility.
I would never let down the fans who had made plans, nor would I abandon the touring crew
and the other support acts and musicians who rely on me for work and to make a living.
Yeah, except now, after this cowardly statement from five hours ago, virtually everyone has
dropped off the tour. All the sporting acts have dropped out, all the opening acts have dropped
out, and even his own band that has been with Ed Sheeran since 2016, touring with him since 2016
for a decade, has now dropped. This didn't have to happen. If Ed Sheeran said fuck off,
the tour continues as is, how dare you. He is powerful enough. He is a powerful and famous
enough figure, knowing full well that he had the support of the masses that he could have pushed
and he could have continued. This would probably be less controversial now.
And now he's hemorrhaging his fan base. I would never let down the fans who would
make plans nor would I abandon the touring crew. It's trying to say that, oh this is
because of the fans that I continued. I have always used my platform music to
bring people from all backgrounds of cultures together and this one ever
changed. Those who have been to one of my shows will know that they are about
unity, joy, escapism, love, and a place for everyone to feel welcome. I am not
complicit. I have my personal views on this devastating conflict just because I
choose not to speak publicly. It doesn't mean I don't have them. It doesn't mean I
don't care, nor does it mean I don't support causes in my own personal way.
While considering that your only public expression has been singing at Robert
Kraft's 2022 wedding, going to Israel, and also dropping Macklemore from your tour,
it kind of feels like your public opinion is one way. It doesn't matter what your
The private opinion is, what matters is what you do when you're in the spotlight, Ed.
This is cowardice through and through.
There's a reason I do not use my professional platform for politics.
My audience includes young people, often children of all backgrounds.
Those who come to my shows do not expect a political form.
I respect McMurray's strength and purpose to stand up and shout for what he believes.
However, there's room for multiple approaches to the same end.
Peace.
I choose, oh, it's so bad.
This is so fucking bad.
Oh, it's so bad.
Oh, this is a disastrous PR, uh, this is, this is a disastrous PR statement.
Okay.
You want to know why is the disastrous PR statement?
Because there are so many people in the professional world that write these statements
that are completely out of touch and out of step with where the broader base of support is.
They are completely out of touch with the masses.
This is written by a 50-year-old PR person whose entire life has led to them believing
one thing about the Israel-Palestinian conflict and how to talk about it.
This kind of statement in 2018 might have been appropriate, although we would have opposed
it, but we wouldn't have the masses on our side.
Right now, in 2026, when you make this statement after dropping a person that you've known
for 13 years on an issue that the overwhelming majority of your fanbase agrees with, it's
fucked up.
This is going to win you no favors.
Perhaps it'll win you favors from Zionist pervert billionaires like Robert Kraft, but
But that's not the only audience you care about.
This is singing to one person and one person only, Robert Kraft.
Unbelievable cowardice.
I choose my favorite platform to be a place of safety and sanctuary to maintain diplomacy
and keep conversations open, not closed.
If we only focus on shouting the loudest, nothing will ever change.
There are different approaches to being an advocate for change.
I have spent this week trying to build bridges to find a solution.
Unfortunately, it was unable to do so.
I know who I am, both as a person and as an artist and those who know my heart,
know my values too. Yeah.
I think they learned what,
what you represent as a person, as an artist and as a human being.
And perhaps that's the reason why even the likes of Philip DeFranco,
who normally take a much more even keeled approach, let's say,
have been staggering Ed Sheeran.
This is what he said yesterday in his video.
No more both sides. And Philip has not been both sides in this issue for a while anyway,
but let's be real. You would expect Philip to have a much more even-killed approach,
but here is his take on the Ed Sheeran controversy. Obviously, there's plenty of
things that that Philip Franco doesn't take a both sides approach on. He's very clearly a Democrat.
He's very clearly a liberal. But even on the foreign policy front, this is one issue that is
very clear. There's a moral position and then there's an immoral position. And
Sheeran chose to take the immoral side on this. He chose to take the pro-genocide
side on this. I'll say at the very least I'm disappointed in Ed Sheeran.
Apparently saying I don't take sides. That feels like an insane thing to say
when what we're talking about here and again this is not just me a random
internet guy saying this. What experts and scholars who cover genocide have been
calling a genocide in Gaza. The actions of a war criminal like Netanyahu.
especially as we see that the conflating of just criticisms of Netanyahu and
the Israeli government's actions to actual anti-Semitism,
it gives cover to the actual anti-Semites that we do see out there.
And so we end up seeing it involving a lot of the same people who call Ms.
Rachel an anti-Semite because she said she doesn't want kids murdered.
And actually speaking of her,
Ms. Rachel has spoken out about this now too,
saying imagine looking back 20 years from now at yourself,
kicking someone off a tour because they spoke out during a genocide that's
killed 20,000 kids.
And it also feels like if it was actually about combating anti-Semitism,
They wouldn't be welcoming Kanye with the red carpet treatment at so many of these stadiums across the country.
But also the craft was involved in this should not be surprising to anyone.
This is not a secret.
I think a lot of people just might not be aware of it.
There are deep ties.
He and Netanyahu, they've had a long, long relationship.
Also, the craft group, which controls Gillette Stadium and block Macklemore from performing there,
they've donated millions of dollars to APAC Super PAC United Democracy Project.
They're actually one of the group's largest corporate donors.
Yep.
This was about Israel.
This was about Israel's malign influence on American politics.
This was about a foreign country subverting the democratic process, or in this case, silencing free expression.
Free expression that is not only moral, but also the majority position.
What an unbelievable misstep this was.
Yeah, you look at, on favoring Palestinians over Israelis,
amongst 18 to 29 year olds in this country 64% favor Palestinians over
Israelis only 16 1 6% favors Israeli over Palestinians amongst 30 to 44 year olds
51% favor Palestinians over Israelis only 24% favor Israelis over Palestinians
this is it's over this is a generation that Israel understandably lost
We will be looking at the New York-Syana poll and some of the devastating outcomes from
said poll as well.
There are plenty of issues with the, there are plenty of results from the Sianapole that
I personally am not exactly fond of.
We have a long way to go to make more people aware of the atrocities, aware of the dynamic.
But once again, we know that it's Sharon has taken sides in the past.
It's understandable.
He's done a concert for Ukraine.
Now, I'm not saying this is a bad thing to do.
I'm just showing that it's very clear that there are certain sides he's taken loudly
and proudly.
Perhaps the reason why he won't take this side, perhaps the reason why he won't take
the side of the victims in this instance, even though he took the side of the victims
in Ukraine is because the American State Department position and the powerful Americans
and Zionist billionaires who have tremendous amounts of consolidated wealth and power do
not want you to take the side. Do not want you to take the side of the children. Ed Sheeran
is making a political statement to his fans when he does a concert to support Ukraine,
but considers Palestine too dangerous and radical.
silence in the face of injustice is siding with the oppressor. That's it. This is worse
Just in silence though, you are taking a direct position.
You are siding openly with the oppressor in this circumstance.
It is completely unacceptable and I'm glad to see other artists speak out in favor of
not only Macklemore, but in favor of the Palestinians that have been slaughtered,
it is completely unacceptable. And it is exceptionally unacceptable, but they will not
hear our voices unless we show solidarity. The entire process, this entire disciplining operation
is specifically to say we still hold all the power if there is no response from
the masses, if the majority won't let their voices be heard, then they win. Okay? Then they fucking win.
So I'm very happy that artists are speaking out.
Now, good people across the world, people of good conscience, should always say the truth.
No matter what the cost is, they will make it as costly as possible.
But ultimately, truth can only prevail if we push for it.
Justice can only prevail not through divine intervention, through some cosmic circumstance,
But because people pushed for it, people fought for it, people suffered at times for it.
That's it.
It's here and trying to thread the I'm not taking any size and Gaza needle is like a
hundred times funnier when the with the revelation that every other non-magnum or artist affiliated
with the tour was apparently Irish, yeah.
All of the support acts as of this morning have dropped out from what I understand.
of the openers have dropped out. Many of them were Irish, ironically enough. Perhaps not
the best choice to stand in solidarity with the Zionist pervert billionaire Robert Kraft
left when the rest of your team is all Irish.
But here is once again Fox News showing their ass supporting cancel culture, supporting real
cancel culture. Not the cancel culture of the masses that say, oh, this is unacceptable,
we're making a big fuss about this, but real cancel culture, the consequences being delivered by
one person, one person with profound amounts of power, one person against the wishes
of the majority. That's real cancel culture. You understand? When you take a position
that powerful entities
Oppose and you get punished for it. That's real cancel culture. It's not cancel culture when you say something and a lot of people get mad at you and yell at you or whatever the fuck
Real cancel culture is when
You say the truth and you get punished for it by not the majority by not the masses
but instead
by
powerful entities
that can enforce their control over free expression on a moment's notice.
Let's take a look at how Fox News is responding to cancer culture when it's done by a perverted Zionist billionaire.
People can be mad at Robert Kraft all they want, but you know what? It pays to be the boss.
boss. You can't disrespect someone in their own house. And guess what? He has friends
and he has every right to leverage his friendships to go against the issue that matters to him.
This is America. And if you guys want to subsidize him, then you guys go find a stadium. Y'all
pay for it. Y'all sell him out. And then there's no problem here. Create the tour. Create
the fan base for him.
Wait, that is what happened. Are you speaking to Robert Kraft?
Because these statements are perhaps more appropriately
Delivered in not in the direction of Robert Kraft, but against Robert Kraft
76 million dollars in taxpayer funded subsidies was given to that stadium
Robert Kraft doesn't own that stadium on his own
The idea that this was Robert Kraft who owns the stadium it's his way or the highway all that is fucking bullshit
What stadium in the United States of America is not subsidized by the taxpayers the fuck are you talking about?
Hey, well every cell are those professors at Columbia say these things
I just so glad that a guy like Robert Kraft can use the power and wealth that he has as a pushback against it as I should
He has a point of view and if they're they're gonna have these forces and many of the media pushing the other point of view
Which is suddenly pro-terrorist. I think that it's great that he's using his power
The more wants to say all that stuff on stage their consequences. You're gonna
Yeah, listen up, buddy. Keep speaking to a smaller and smaller audience of
Psychopaths, okay. That's what this is pro-terrorist might ask dude
Nasty nasty little freak
What is this Jewish operators are the heroes here, yes, I believe like five of the seven dude people who defend
Zionists say some of the most
heinous and anti-semitic shit
And I don't think they recognize it when they're saying these things like
They they come across as like fomenting anti-semitic conspiracies
It's crazy venues are owned by Jewish
Operators or business people and they don't want to have anything to do with the anti-semitism of course. Oh my god, brother. Oh my god
That is psychotic dude
from this anti-Semite Macklemore, and I will point out,
they're the heroes in all of this, not the promoter,
not Ed Sheeran, who's an absolute coward,
who chose to do absolutely nothing,
despite the fact that Macklemore was using the venues
that he put him on to spread this anti-Semitic garbage.
And so kudos to Robert Kraft and others
with the Tepper family as well,
who have stepped up and said no to Macklemore.
Got it, I think that's a good thing.
Yes.
Yeah, it's a good thing. Yeah kicked out. You're not going to be invited to certain stadiums, but Robert Kraft has every right to do that
He's the stadium, right?
Think and you know, they don't care about Gaza
Malcolm Moore has never been to Gaza
I've been to Gaza if he really cares about the children in Gaza he'd be like, yeah, you'd be all over there stepping on their skulls
You know, that's how you can show how much you care about Gaza
by onboarding with a with an Israeli occupying force getting in a Merkava tank and rolling over the the mass graves of children that
American tax
Tax dollars contributed to that's the only way to show your care consideration for the people of Gaza
Fucking bullshit advocating against their uses human shields and his child soldiers and and so forth and good on Robert Kraft because he has
standards and now there is a price to pay for your anti-americanism there's a
price to pay for your Jew hatred and this is not cancel culture by the way
Robert Kraft you put out that statement this is not case of the woody's case
culture then what the fuck is cancer culture disagreeing with fucking
powerful entities that come around and and take away your money the platform you
by force that's cancel culture it is anti-american and it's being conducted at the behest of a
foreign country it's fucking bullshit okay and he invited Macklemore to come discuss
with him but of course he turned that down so this is i think a great precedent you do
not have a constitutional right a first amendment right to go on somebody's private property
and chant hate, hate against Americans, hate against Jews, but again we should be talking
about this issue in the broader context because all of our artistic spaces are now being taken
over by this pro-terror, anti-American, Islamist, extreme, woke ideology and it's very concerning.
Let's take a look at another piece.
We must always speak truth
Crazy cuz I don't recall Macklemore saying you goddamn think about Jewish people at all actually that's wrong
He did say something about Jewish people
He did in that same speech that he delivered he said
I love my Jewish brothers and sisters opposing Israel has nothing to do with opposing Jews. We love Jews
It's so he did he actually did say he loves Jewish people and that he he gives shout out the Jewish voice for peace
These people are not Jew haters no matter how hard the media tries to present it as such
So, no. He defended Jewish people.
He said, Jewish people have nothing to do with Israel.
That opposing Israel is not opposing Jewish people.
That we must not entertain Jew hatred.
You know, things that I've said a million times over as well.
Remember, we have power in numbers.
Okay? We have power in numbers. We have the truth on our side. We will push for justice.
Okay? Remember that when it feels lonely, because you see people get punished, prominent figures
get punished for criticizing Israel. Remember that the only antidote to that division and that
hatred is solidarity. So, I'm really proud of all the artists that have shown that solidarity.
The only way we can let justice prevail is if we speak truth to power no matter the cost.
And they will make it costly, but it doesn't matter.
Shouts out to Phineas, my goat.
Friend of the show Phineas, dropping out of Ed Sheeran's tour in Solidary with Maglemore
I stand with Palstine and his people.
My King.
Singer-songwriter Aaron Rowe, Lucas Graham, Irish band Bioga have all dropped out of Ed
Sheeran's loop tour after fellow opener Maglemore was dismissed for expressing his support of
Palstine at a pair of New Jersey shows earlier this month.
That's awesome respect
Yeah, Ed Sheeran is now doing a solo dolo tour
including he lost his band dude he has four days to find an entirely new band
that knows his full set list how the fuck does he continue I mean I'm sure
they have backups right there there must be but those backups will obviously have
a real a real crisis do they continue do they substitute for a baoga am I
saying that name correctly, I don't know. Do they fill in? Do they take the role of Ed Sheeran's band
that has been there with Ed Sheeran since 2016 and basically be known forever
as pro-genocide pro-Israel folks?
This makes me, this gives me courage, this makes me happy, this gives me confidence.
Actually I have a, you know, close and somewhat intimate understanding of the issue that
Macklemore is facing.
I'm glad these things matter.
These things matter quite a bit because the reality is when you're in the fucking cross
heirs for defending the truth or saying the truth and you get inundated with a barrage
of attacks, the reason for why those attacks happen is to create a chilling effect, to
stop others from speaking truth to power.
And if people don't come out and say this is completely unacceptable,
if this isn't costly for Ed Sheeran, then the next time someone
wants to stick their neck out to say the truth on an issue that matters to you,
they will think twice.
That's how the chilling effect works.
Okay?
Hmm. That's how it works.
Macklemore's labor industry peers are better than yours to be fair.
Yes. I mean, it's true. It's true. Yeah. Come on. It's true.
I know.
I know this is the point, but regarding that last clip as a Jew, I really hate when people
who are supposedly trying to combat anti-Semitism call people Jew-haters and talk about Jew-hate.
Those phrases are so icky to me.
Even if they're wielded in an intended defensive, Jew-hater literally hits my ear like a slur.
I don't know how to explain it.
No, I know.
I sometimes deploy it as well.
Well, I'm gonna be honest like it feels it does feel kind of aggressive to say
Yeah, it is grading. I agree
Hannah I'm binder another Hassan Abbey friend of the show says Ed Sheeran. I say this is a ginger
I hope you get a really bad sunburn
We're in the back burn the kind on the back of your entire body where it hurts the lie down or walk or sit
I can't believe ginger on ginger violence
It is actual band that performed with him.
Back out of the tour, yes.
In retrospect, it's kind of funny that Robert Kraft thought doing an immediately revealed
billionaire conspiracy was going to work out for the pro-Israel cause, yeah.
Yeah, one of the best elements of this is that it highlighted Robert Kraft's affiliation
with Jeffrey Epstein.
It reminded people of the Rubin Tug Incident, and it also introduced to many people how
unbelievably pro-Israel and how connected to not only Trump, but also Benjamin Netanyahu,
Robert Kraft truly is.
These kinds of things matter.
If you're a billionaire occupying a seat of profound, unearned power and influence, and
you get outed as like being super pro-Benjamin, then yeah, that's going to hurt at the cocktail
circuit.
People are going to look at you differently.
It actually reduces the places that you can go to.
And that's all that matters are these fucking demons, you know?
of the show chimes in rough time to be a fan of both Ed Sheeran and Hamas but yeah there's
also the the you know unintentional and yet somewhat funny moment here where it's like
Like this is an anti-Semitic canard, if written on paper, if someone were to be like, oh yeah,
you have a perverted Jewish billionaire that single-handedly got a bunch of other people
on the board to cancel an act because he didn't like what the act had to say about Palestine.
Like that is literally, that is the makings of a David Duke conspiracy, you know?
It's true.
This is what we talk about when we say like this kind of action, this kind of action,
foments, anti-Semitism, it actually endangers Jewish people.
It's ridiculous.
This is what neo-nazis take advantage of.
Neo-nazis look to this and say,
See? I told you.
It's not an accident that anti-Semitism grows in moments like this.
Okay?
Because there are plenty of opportunists
who don't give a shit about Israel,
killing Muslims.
They like it. They enjoy it, but they don't like Jews.
So they point to events like this.
They point to this kind of interference and say,
See? It's a Jewish conspiracy.
Why the fuck is that anti-Semitism if they're objectively correct?
Great question my friend.
Great question.
It's because, it's because, Robert Kraft isn't doing this because he's Jewish, Robert
Kraft is doing this because he's pro-Israel, because no group of people are monolithic
including Jews. Okay, there are plenty of Jews in this community, for example, where, you know,
anti-Zionists and deeply resentful of the actions of Robert Kraft.
That's it. That's the point. It's like asking the question, well, this black person did a crime.
Why is that such a problem to say that, you know, black people are more predisposed to doing crime?
No group of individuals are monolithic. And any attempt to generalize an entire population
is always going to be wrong, is always going to be dangerous.
We do not complate Zionism and Judaism.
Here's some more evidence to why that suggestion is wrong anyway.
Anyway, amazing that when surveyed even in a pick-two question
84% of Jewish voters do not list Israel as among the most important issues when deciding their vote and yet national media only seems capable of
interviewing and foregrounding the
16% who do
This is something that I have repeatedly explained over and over again
The overwhelming majority of Jews living in the United States of America care about American shit
They care about the cost of living in affordability the future of democracy. They care about anti-Semitism
them. What they don't care about is Israel. However, the only people whose voices you hear
in mainstream news are people who do care about Israel, who conflate anti-Semitism with
with a negative opinion over Israel.
This is frustrating, not only because it's untrue, but it's also frustrating because
it also creates a false narrative that all Jews living in the United States of America
care about Israel.
It's wrong, it's dangerous.
This is what I said, ironically enough, a couple weeks ago, that people used falsely
to smear me as an anti-Semite to say that I'm fomenting hatred against Jews.
This is what I was talking about.
This is what I had said.
This is also part of the reason why, despite pushback from those that claim to be on my
left flank that say, oh, you're a fellow Semitic, you care too much about anti-Semitism, I refuse
to abide by the notion that it is irrelevant and inconsequential to talk about this.
Okay, some people say, oh, Hasan is just doing this to pay the piper, so he doesn't get yelled at.
Bitch, they haven't stopped yelling at me. They haven't stopped calling me an anti-Semite. The
reason why I still advance this position is because it's the truth. Okay, no people are monolithic.
If Jews were a monolithic species unlike anybody else, Israel wouldn't spend billions of dollars
trying to make sure that the next generation of American Jews feel a sense of loyalty towards
the state of Israel.
Israel wouldn't be failing in accomplishing this project right now.
There is a generational divide that has taken place on people's attitudes towards Israel,
And that generational split exists amongst the American Jewry as well.
This is perhaps the biggest reason as to why so many of these supposedly Jewish advocacy
organizations that are tasked with combating anti-Semitism, even though we all know that
they're primarily tasked with defending Israel, backed by the Knesset half the fucking time,
like the ADL, the apartheid defense league, have focused all of their enmity towards people
like myself or people like Macklemore.
There is a real parallel here.
In the political commentary sphere, there are plenty of actual anti-Semites that these
people could focus on.
But they focus instead on someone like myself who is actively combated anti-Semitism every
single day and will continue to do so as I combat all forms of bigotry.
And in the music side, they yell at Macklemore, they demand Macklemore lose his position.
They demand that Maglemore and succeed in getting Maglemore de-platformed.
Those very same stadiums have hosted and will continue to host Kanye West, a person who
a couple of months ago came out with the song of the summer last year titled Heil Hitler.
Everyone understands that this has nothing to do with anti-Semitism and everything to
do with defending Israel.
That's it.
And these people in positions of power don't even care to create a consistent through line
here.
They don't even care.
They think you won't pay attention.
They think you won't notice.
That's it.
It's utterly ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
The CEOs on universal music are Jewish.
Okay.
So what?
Again, going back to the Kanye experience here, do they care about Jews, do they care
about anti-Semitism, or do they care about Israel?
Do they care about their investments in the state of Israel?
That's the point.
Because if they simply genuinely thought that this was about anti-Semitism to stop anti-Semitism
completely, they'd still be wrong if they're directing it at someone like Macklemore.
But at the very least, they would try to, you know, entertain the argument that, like, you know,
Kanye West is, Kanye West is probably a little bit more dangerous about fomenting anti-Semitism.
Why do you think they're trying so hard to combine both Jews in Israel like what do they get out of it genuinely?
What do you mean a a base of support a
civic nationalist identity
And also a line of defense against Israel every moment that you talk about in a Jews being under attack is
At least historically
post-World War II in a moment where you don't have to talk about Israel's actions. It's a shield. It's that simple.
Makes it much more difficult for progressive forces, liberal forces to adequately critique Israel as the illiberal apartheid state that it is,
when they're worried about, when they're worried about coming across as anti-Semitic.
It has been a successful mode of defense for quite a while.
It's worked for like 75 to 76 years, so why wouldn't they keep hitting that line over
and over again?
It worked for the longest time.
People were utterly oblivious to what Israel was doing.
They didn't care.
It didn't understand it.
And it was uh, it has always been treated especially for a different generation has been treated as a as a moral duty a moral responsibility and obligation to defend
Jews after uh, the holocaust to to right the wrongs of the holocaust
a reminder that the american government
Turned away jewish refugees that were escaping nazi germany
sent them back to their deaths. If you think these sorts of things don't matter,
you're wrong, especially for a different generation. This is where that attitude
comes from the Western world, okay? And it's crazy because that same wrong that
was committed towards Jews, that unacceptable wrong that was committed at
the time is now being committed against Palestinians and people don't even recognize it, so what's next?
Anyway, we're moving on from this Ed Sheeran moment
And to talk about my own, uh, canceled culture situation, University of Texas Democrat group,
college Democrats invited me to speak at University of Texas Austin campus.
University of Texas is refusing to give them a large enough venue for us to speak at.
U.T. Democrat group accused the school of shadow-canceling a Sompire event ahead of the left-wing
streamers visiting U.T. Austin. The group that invited him is weathering attacks from conservatives.
When the University of Democrats of the University of Texas booked left-wing Twitch streamer a Sompire
for a conversation and Q&A on campus later this month, the group originally requested a room for
about 460 people. Instead, they had over 2,500 people sign up. But when the University of Democrats
requested the larger Bass concert hall on campus, they were denied. Even though we told them,
We do not need a big setup and the fact that there is no show an event happening that day University Democrats president
I did Rahha told Cron they are not giving us that space the request for another venue with the capacity of
2400 students was also denied an email Rahha accused the University of Texas of trying to sabotage the event
Event which will take place on September 30th in Rahas view
That's because University officials aren't fans of left-wing political figures like a psalm piker by doing this
they are essentially shadow canceling the event by not providing a safe venue to have it in the
first place, Raha told Kron. A progressive group like the University of Democrats hosting Piker,
one of the most prominent left-wing commentators in America, is not necessarily groundbreaking,
but Piker is no ordinary campus speaker, pugnacious and unafraid to speak his mind.
The self-described Marxist twitch, stare-offen, twitch-stare, streamer, often court's controversy do
in particular to a strong views on Israel's war in Gaza. When the university Democrats announced
the event, comments were initially positive, although in recent days the post had been bombarded
with negative comments. News of the event spread around social media and eventually
started receiving condemnation from Texas politicians and commentators.
Piker has been called anti-Semitic and a terrorist supporter by some politicians and Jewish groups.
In a statement, Texas Solile said that while the group values pluralism and debate,
They condemn to some pikers upcoming visit mr. Piker's views however go against our values americans and jews and his hateful anti-semitic
Rhetoric is repulsive rabbi Stephanie max the executive director of Texas. Haleil wrote on Facebook
We have communicated our concerns to our university partners and are in ongoing contact with them about the event Texas
Politicians including governor Greg Abbott Texas attorney general and Republican state nominee Ken Paxton and conservative Democratic congressman
Henry Cuellar have also condemned the event. Cuellar who represents South
Texas in Congress said that Piker's visit to UT campus was deeply concerning.
Free speech allows difficult and controversial views, Cuellar said on X,
but it does not require anyone to stay silent when someone has a history of
hateful comments about Jewish Americans 9-11 and Hamas terrorism. Piker has been
called anti-Semitic and a terrorist supporter by some politicians and Jewish
groups in a statement Texas allow said that while the group values wait what
That's that's a repeat
Despite his controversy, Piker has proven popular with young men and progressives for that reason
Raja said having him speak on college campus seemed like a no-brainer. Hassan is very popular with students and young people
He is one of the maybe handful of political figures who is capable of creating enthusiasm among students
Raja said having him speak to students will help supercharge turn out
Raja said his biggest concern was making sure the university did not ask Piker's visit as well as protecting himself and his fellow
organizers from death threats.
Cron reached out to the University of Texas, but did not receive comment before publication.
On social media, Piker decried calls to cancel the event.
It's a public university.
This is a direct violation of the First Amendment.
Piker wrote on X, free speech must be protected.
Them should push back against this attack.
Is there a strategic reason not to have people push back on anti-Semitism claims?
I can't think of anything you've said that's been anti-Semitic.
a bit salty but who gives a shit? Um, what is this? Oh, yeah.
I think
people don't talk about the anti-Semitism allegations because they just are somewhat worried about
even defending any allegations of anti-Semitism, because the argument always turns into standpoint
epistemology. I had a similar conversation earlier today with MSNOW. It's Mohs Anders,
and you'll see it when it comes out, basically said something along the lines of, well, don't you
feel like if all these Jewish people are saying you're anti-Semitic, that you should probably
reconsider your commentary and I said it's not it's not the case it's not
actually a significant number of Jewish people it's actually people in media
that have this attitude but it's not reflected by Jews en masse and I told
them what I've been saying over and over again my anti-Zionism is directed and
And in large parts, not entirely, but in large parts, by Jewish anti-Zionists,
Israeli Jews who have written extensively on the matter.
Okay, obviously Palestinians first and foremost, but certainly Jewish anti-Zionists as well.
The idea that this conversation is being directed by this monolithic enmity by all Jews
is entirely wrong and also dangerous. It's false. It's dangerous. There is no such thing.
Now, of course, you could say you can make the Zoran comparison. Of course,
Zoran is in a different predicament. He's the mayor of New York City,
and he tows a very different line. And of course, there's still plenty of Jewish critics of Zoran
who continue advancing this narrative. It's totally ridiculous, but he's very popular with
many Jews in New York.
You could say, I'm in a different situation. I've said things that Zoran would never entertain or
never say. There's truth to that. I'm a political commentator. He's the mayor of a city with a
high density of Jewish constituents. He has to toe the line a lot differently than I do.
Having said that, however, my position is not wrong. It might come across as rude at times,
but it's not wrong. And perhaps more importantly, well, there's nothing more important than the
truth, but also still important is the fact that it's a position that many
American Jews also believe. So even though there is this effort by many
outlets such as Jewish Insider, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, to create an
environment of hysteria amongst the Jewish readership. The idea that like these prominent
critics of Israel are all deeply anti-Semitic, I'm going to continue doing outreach to the
best of my ability. I'm going to continue talking to Jews who don't agree with me,
for example. We have deep disagreements, but it's still important to have dialogue in
this conversation in this moment. But to say that I'm anti-Semitic is disgusting and wrong.
That's it. Completely wrong.
News Digital claims they reached out Jewish activist discusses us on pikers growing influence. What the fuck is this?
I'm really scary enough what makes us on pikers are dangerous. What's up guys? I'm Zach stage Fox. I'm a CEO dog
I mean come I
Mean this guy is literally did he work for fucking Andrew Cuomo?
He was like the first guy that started the Hassan piker 9-11 Zora on affiliation saga
Yeah, this motherfucker was Andrew Cuomo's campaign manager, bro. Of course. Oh, wow. It's just a random Jewish activist
Well, this writer producer director and
Nice Jewish boy and he doesn't come across like a news person or a political person
but he's really packaged himself as an entertainer.
And if you look at the data, 90% of all young people
go on social media to be entertained.
He's both a product and also a symptom of our generation.
He's grown up in this America where radical Islam is cool
and hating America is cool, and so he is catching on to something.
Radical Islam is cool.
This is the other side of the story that I find really funny,
and it's also the whole point that I make about racism.
If you look at a guy like me,
and you're a fucking conservative in the United States of America,
and you try to present the argument that I am in favor of Islamic fundamentalism,
Okay, any conservatism whatsoever, I think most people are going to laugh at you. Okay,
most people are going to hear that and go, what the fuck are you talking about?
That's what's so crazy about this, right? Oh, Hasan Piker is in favor of dangerous Islamic
radicalism, while also simultaneously showing my fucking meat pick, while also simultaneously
saying I'm far too woke for the average person to find appealing. Which is it?
What the hell are you talking about? I think that is already existing in the fabric of our nation.
But on 9-11, we went and we actually interviewed Jen Ziers about 9-11. And
And everyone we spoke to, and these were mostly NYU students,
freshmen, sophomores, these were not dumb people.
They all believed America deserved 9-11, caused 9-11,
or were apathetic to say the least.
And most of these kids are fans of Hassan Piker.
George Bush did 9-11.
Ben Lawton was a hero.
Do you think America deserved 9-11?
They definitely have a blame.
So the twist of the video is that we bring actual families of those who lost their relatives
on 9-11 to come and actually confront these young people, these 9-11 deniers, so to speak.
And it's really moving and it's really powerful.
I don't think they're denying 9-11.
I think you're trying to invoke an emotional reaction out of people who are saying something
that you disagree with.
Yeah, and you're basically losing the debate by appealing to emotion.
A fallacy.
Appeal to emotion fallacy.
Okay.
and
He does have the soy voice. He does. He does.
His whole shig is telling boomers that Gen Z is done.
We've been about it mostly, but a lot of them actually did seem to change their mind and
their tone from these conversations. The kids in the video are saying that they've learned
these things from social media, and I'm assuming they largely mean TikTok, and then the actual
truth is suppressed from them while people like Hassan Piker flourishing online.
I think there's a huge disconnect right now why you're seeing so much of Hassan Piker
being elevated is because the institutions that are designed to fight against this, the
nonprofits, the anti-hate organizations, they're not actually matching the moment and reaching
young people in the formats they're at, they're posting graphics, you know, and they're not
actually fighting social media propaganda with better social media education.
I do think Hassan Pike-
I mean, this is just him doing a promotional video about- this is basically him begging
the fucking boomers that watch Fox News to give him more money.
Look, these guys just don't understand the social media landscape like I do.
Bitch, you've done so many videos being like Tel Aviv is awesome
And it's been widely panned by people because it's ridiculous and people can see what the fuck you're doing
It's not like you're a successful alternative either
Sure may have tarnished his reputation a bit like
Totally wrong. Maybe it's just a moment
But obviously Democrats are running away from him after he was so in grace during the Montani race and during
else I add race. I do wonder if this is just for the midterms and then come out
the midterms, they're gonna be parading with the guy, I don't know. But it does
seem like they may realize that he's even too toxic for them.
Anyway, let's get the obdol side
So this is a Phoenix chicken known for its incredible tail
Florida also has some fine chickens
That live in Florida
We don't want to debate
But this chicken here is beautiful look at how lovely it is you have to be very proud of this chicken
So how old is this chicken?
Six months old.
Six months old.
And how much work goes into growing Michigan's best chicken?
Do it all the time.
Apparently, we have a lot of work, I'm sure.
Yes.
It's very beautiful.
Congratulations on your award.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
criticism for not distancing himself from left-wing Twitch streamer Hassan
Piker, the renewed scrutiny coming after he recently posted a message about 9-11
on social media. Let's go to the National News Desk. Jeff Harris joining us now.
And Jeff, although El Sayed made the post on Friday, his comments over the weekend
only fueling more backlash. Break down the details. So marking 25 years since 9-11,
And when Elsayed posting a message on social media on Friday, writing in part, that nothing
can justify the murder of innocent civilians.
The post, stirring up some controversy as a Senate candidate over the weekend, would
not distance himself from Piker, who once said that America deserved the terror attacks.
With all due respect, this is the third time you've asked about a Twitch streamer in California.
Over the weekend, Elsayed standing his ground when asked why he hasn't distanced himself
from left-wing Twitch streamer, Hassan Piker,
who's appeared at his campaign events
and declared that America deserved 9-11.
I've done four events in Michigan this week.
You know what didn't come up?
Twitch streamers in California.
The interview comes just days after El Sayed
shared a message on social media
marking 25 years since the 9-11 terror attacks,
or quote, we mourn the victims, their families,
and the pain and destruction those terrorists caused.
The comment generating some backlash,
not only for his association with Piker,
but also as some of his past references to the terror attacks that have since been deleted
resurface.
CBS News sharing one post that was first reported by the Washington Free Beacon, where El Sayed
reportedly wrote on September 11, 2021, quote, Today I mourn the 3,000 lives, 6,000 injuries
in infrastructural devastation in New York City, perpetuated ignorantly in the name of
my faith.
Given the fact that he hasn't done so, we can only surmise that Abdul El Sayed and Hasan
Piker are absolute partners and compatriots. A former Clinton era official, Jamie Maxwell telling
in.
Or he's already addressed it seven million times.
I'm not in Michigan.
I'm an American political commentator in Los Angeles, California.
The National News Desk Monday, he believes Michigan voters and the Democratic Party should
make any future support for El Sayed conditional on walking back these views and condemning
Piker.
And El Sayed has an incredible opportunity to distance himself from that victory, all
which so far he has failed to do. Now following El Sayed's message, multiple ads have started
popping up in Michigan, calling him out.
Abdul El Sayed campaign with a man who said America deserve 9-11.
Me?
By the way, this is the local news broadcast, this is the Sinclair broadcast of National
News Desk. I don't need to tell you this is unbelievably right wing, right? Like you
get it.
While on Sunday, El Sayed's opponent Mike Rogers, calling out his 9-11 message, sharing
a video from Piker while writing quote, here's a son Piker openly saying that Abdul is conning
Michiganders with his scripted 9 11 anniversary video. Obviously politicians that you know
they're they're gonna have to be extra careful, especially if they're Muslim, especially if
they're victims to the Islamophobic narratives. When asked for comment on Piker and 9 11,
a spokesperson for El Sayed telling the national news desk quote, Abdul has always unequivocally
condemned terrorism and the September 11 attacks, Mike Rogers attempts to misrepresent Abdul's
beliefs are bad faith lies meant to mislead Michiganders, while also noting that Rogers
voted against healthcare benefits for 9-11 first responders, including in 2010 for the
James Zadroga 9-11 Health and Conversation Act.
Yep.
That's how you flip it, baby.
That did end up passing.
Now the spokesperson for El Sayed adding here that he unequivocally condemns terrorism and
any attacks on American democracy.
Meanwhile, Rogers has responded to the criticism on his voting record, writing last week on
social media that the insinuation that he doesn't support the victims or their families
is quote, patently false.
Reporting for the national news desk, I'm Jeff Harris.
Now the rapper Macklemore has been dropped from Ed Sheeran's U.S. tour after making pro-Palestinian
comments on stage.
The artist was criticised by Jewish groups after saying free Palestine at two concerts
and making political speeches.
Macklemore stood by his comments, saying in a statement that the real victims are the
Palestinian people in Gaza.
Well our music correspondent Mark Savage is looking at this development story and Mark
just brings us up to date with the background to this.
But yeah, so as you say Macklemore was supporting Ed Sheeran.
I'm covering this extensively. I'm skipping it.
She had to leave Torch's Ed Sheeran, Robert Kraft over Macklemore.
Let's see what she had to say. I didn't see this.
Good to see you. How are you?
Good. How are you?
I'm good. Thank you.
I was wondering what you thought about Macklemore being kicked off the Ed Sheeran tour because of his views and his words.
Because he wants to save lives?
Well, yeah, saying freeze Palestine and that sort of stuff.
of stuff. I mean, so many folks have talked to us express their feelings around human
rights around protecting people. But it seems there's always an exception when it comes to
Palestinian lives. When you want to uplift and protect Palestinian lives, all of a sudden you
are vilify targeted. And unfortunately, these billionaires that own these stadiums, which
are publicly funded stadiums, are trying to breach, you know, someone's first and member
rights, be able to uplift, use their music, their art to basically again, save lives,
has no matter faith or ethnicity.
And, you know, Magamor is inspiration to so many people.
He's really putting his livelihood out in line
and courageously saying, I'm not gonna bow down
and I'm not gonna, you know, back down in what I believe.
And his statement was,
people need to take time to read it.
It was powerful.
And he said, you know, if it all comes down to, you know,
me using the stage and using the platform
to speak up about the injustices of the Palestinian people.
And that will hurt me in the long run.
It would have been worthwhile because it would have been
to, again, do what is right.
What of Ed Sheeran then?
Ed Sheeran doesn't want to take his side.
And so, I mean, some people say he stood up for his friend,
Macklemore, and also stood up maybe for what's happening.
But instead, he's just going about his concert anyway.
What do you say about it?
He shows who's courageous and who's not.
He will stand up for values that are important.
that's unfortunate because he said he don't want to take sides, but he did on Ukraine.
So again, there's people that are progressive. I'm for human rights, except for Palestinians.
I'm for freedom of speech and people saying what they want to do, even white supremacists,
but not for Palestine.
It happened again. Republicans passed a rule with the help of Democrats. Marie Glucin can't
present Jared Golden. Oh, nice. Nice. Hey, guys. I think more Democrats should condemn
me a socialist Twitch streamer and and never really focus on the snakes that are in our ranks.
Thank God, Ikeem Jeffries is whipping the votes, man.
U.S. Senate Majority Leader John Thune says he's open to considering an export ban on diesel. Oh
my god, we're going to collapse the entire planet. We're going to collapse the entire
global economy. Holy shit. Diesel is the fuel that is most necessary for logistics. Okay. Oh no.
Well, if America starts doing export bans, which again, our petroleum giants do not like.
The oil and gas industry does not like these sorts of bans.
They are making money like crazy right now.
They'll still make money like crazy selling to America.
But that means that there isn't sufficient diesel to go around in the United States and
prices are going up far too much.
Let's be real, if you've been paying attention to what's going on,
this is an inevitability and you know it.
Always an exception for Palestinian people as if we're disposable,
as if speaking about us is somehow about, uh, you know,
that's not true. And I think, you know, Macklemore and so many others who have been uplifting
Palestinian humanity and talking about the children, those again that continue to suffer
on the ground, the fathers, the mothers, the grandparents, so many right now are continuing
to suffer. There's no ceasefire there. And for me, I mean, three years into this genocide,
and you've got folks that are still trying to silence our movement, we're not going to
silent as you can see and the more you know folks like Ed Sharon and everybody
side with the billionaire class with those that can benefit financially.
All right I'm done with the with the oh my god Ben Shapiro.
Okay I was I was done but I'm being pulled back in here. I was literally like
we've already covered the Macklemore stuff extensively
but it turns out I'm pulled back in oh no.
One of the reasons why I wanted to come on this tour was because I wanted to stand up here
on stages and yeah I wanted Mako Less. I wanted Mako Less but Less is more I thought.
Across America and say two words that are very near and dear to my heart,
free Palestine. I said free Palestine.
And rapper, Macklemore, now doubling down on that message after getting dropped from Ed Sheeran's tour, the songwriter blaming New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft for getting kicked off in a very lengthy statement.
He wrote this in part, Ed told me that Kraft said I would not be allowed to perform in his stadium.
It also told me that Kraft had rallied some of the other stadium owners and collectively they gave him an ultimatum.
If Macklemore stays on the tour, you will not be allowed to play in our venues, Free Palestine.
But if those words cost me the stage while turning the conversation back to Palestine,
then it was the most successful tour I've ever been on.
Ben Shapiro, host of the Ben Shapiro Show is here.
Ben, let's just let me read part of Kraft's statement.
Based on Macklemore's recent actions, material shared from the stage during Ed Sheeran's shows in Jersey
and a broader history of anti-Semitic rhetoric and imagery
that we believe have been deeply offensive and hurtful to the Jewish community,
We determined that his participation in the September 25th and 26th concerts at
July Stadium would cross that line.
Good decision.
I think it's a good decision by Bob Kraft.
I mean, obviously he owns the stadium.
So if he doesn't want somebody spewing nonsense from the stage, he has every
capacity to do that on a PR level.
Obviously I think.
Dude, these guys are so disingenuous.
Oh my God.
Ben Shapiro was a vociferous critic of cancel culture, but as long as it's about Israel,
oh my lord, he's always been a prominent cancel culture warrior himself when it came to punishing
pro-Palestinian advocates.
Well, so weird universities own their own stages.
What happened exactly?
This is also part of the reason why Ben Shapiro has lost most of his fucking
audience and is desperate for a boost from Fox news.
A boost that won't.
It might have been better to just let Matt more boost that won't help his greater in career
He need to be an idiot
I mean the fact is that he's now earned more headlines by by doing this then he would have if he had not and no
No, I mean he's one hit wonder he did thrift shop
Nobody knows what he's been doing wandering the wastes for the last ten years
He comes out he and he said it openly that the only reason he's doing this is for the notoriety
Around the thing and so now he's much more notorious. He's raised his message and all the rest
We were with Bob Kraft last season
He actively scans the Internet for anti-Semitism, all right?
I want to take you inside the room that he showed us up there in Foxboro, Massachusetts.
I started this blue square alliance.
It was a foundation to combat anti-Semitism.
Kraft's personal mission is to make people aware of hatred toward Jews and others around the world.
I see these things everywhere.
His office scans the Internet on this giant screen, searching for signs of anti-scientism online.
You can see, I mean, celebrities, athletes all over America,
wearing the blue square almost every day, you can see it on television.
My point to you would be this, Kraft was right,
because if you look at the schedule of upcoming shows, these are big stadiums,
and most all of them, from what I could judge, host an NFL team.
Yeah, no, I mean, again, I think that on the merits, he's right.
right? The question is whether there's a Streisand.
I want to make sure that everybody understands.
This is nothing to do with anti-Semitism and everything to do with anti-Israel sentiment.
Okay. That's all these motherfuckers care about.
They're simply using anti-Semitism as a catch-all terminology that is much more
publicly appealing as a much more just cause.
It's sinister, it's dangerous, it's cynical, it's false, and most people kind of understand it.
Robert Kraft says we have a command center to identify anti-semitic sentiment,
and you look at actually what they're trying to identify.
It's mostly pro-Israel, it's mostly anti-Israel sentiment that they're identifying.
And from their perspective, yes, anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.
As a matter of fact, from their perspective, anti-Zionism is the highest stage of anti-Semitism.
But, they can't necessarily admit that, because the average person when they hear that go
What the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, let me a Jewish man for kicking you off door when he himself takes credit for doing it is now anti-semitic
The facts it's it's sort of thing just bringing more spout you know what this reminds me of this reminds me of when
Then we attacked Iran and we shot up the Minab school, killing 140 plus little girls.
Going to school, we triple tapped it.
We did the decapitation strike.
And then when asked why we were doing this, virtually everyone admitted, oh, we're doing
it because of Israel.
Like everyone admitted it.
And yet when I said it, or when the average person said it, people will be like, how dare
you be so anti-semitic. It's like, motherfuckers, I'm repeating what Lindsey Graham said. I'm
repeating what Benjamin Nenyeahu said. I'm repeating what Donald Trump said. The fuck
do you mean this is anti-semitism? I'm repeating what Marco Rubio said. Do you have eyes and
ears? Do you not realize that when you say this is an anti-semitic canard or an anti-semitic
conspiracy, you're just legitimizing anti-Semitism at that point because people go, what do you mean that's an anti-Semitic conspiracy?
I guess if that's an anti-Semitic conspiracy, call me a fucking anti-Semite. That's the argument that people make.
You can't run around calling shit that's happening in broad daylight anti-Semitism.
You can't do that.
That doesn't end up, that doesn't halt the conversation as it once did back in the day.
It only legitimizes anti-Semitism.
The argument is the same with blood libel.
Saying Israel murders children is blood libel does not stop the conversation.
It actually makes people think, okay, well I guess blood libel is not real, but it wasn't
of real anti-Semitic canard. It actually undermines the severity, the historical severity of blood libel,
and the danger it caused Jews historically.
Yeah.
I like to what Macklemore was doing by fighting it, but on the principle, obviously, he's also,
Macklemore has a long history of this. I mean, he dressed up in stereotypical Jewish garb at one of
of his concerts about 10 years ago, like a fake big nose and fake Jewish hair and all
the rest. I mean, it's pretty clear what he is.
Yeah, that shit was anti-Semitic as fuck. Guess what?
Macklemore apologized. You know who actually accepted his apology? The fucking ADL, dumbass.
Yeah, in 2014, the ADL accepted his apology.
No, he didn't, yes, he did.
What are you talking about?
He did.
He literally dressed up like a cartoonish depict- depiction of a Jewish person.
yes this is bullshit he wasn't being anti-semitic come on dog it looked like
dude
dude what are we talking about okay he already apologized for it what the fuck
are you defending it
what are you talking about yeah ADL excess Macklemore's positive or fake hook
knows bro he bore a hook nose man like what what are you saying I mean you
just say it's not like that big of a deal or whatever which you know I'm not
obviously not going to entertain but he was basically doing you know the Jewish
version of blackface what the fuck it was it was anti-Semitic which is why he
apologize for it. Okay. It's just the point is, the point is the
ADL accepted his apology is the real question is why Ed Sheeran had on the
stage in the first place. That's the part that's astonishing.
It's not like Ed Sheeran couldn't find somebody else.
He literally picked this guy up off the street. I don't know from the local
Salvation Army and brought him on stage to rant about Palestine. That's a huge
mistake by Ed Sheeran. He did it on a Friday night and he was allowed to go back out on
stage the next night. Yeah, that's right. So again, there's really more of an Ed Sheeran
problem, I think. And it is a Bob Graff problem. And we'll move on to the next topic, but just
so everybody knows that Mayor of Dearborn, Michigan, if we could put this up on the screen,
apparently, is saying that, hey, Macklemore, if they don't want you performing in their
state image, you're always welcome in Dearborn. I wonder if there's any Senate candidates that
We'll be going, we'll see about that.
Anti-Israel activists, Namul Khalil,
if you remember him, everybody from back in the day,
Columbia University protests,
he has decided to sue the university
because he said this,
Columbia University deployed intrusive surveillance
mechanisms against its own students,
called the NYPD onto campus to clear
and arrest students participating in encampments
and engage in mass disciplinary proceedings
to punish students for their vocal support of Palestine,
perceived, shared Arab and or Muslim ancestry and status
as non-citizens and or immigrants.
We could vote the video.
I mean, he's whitewashing that.
Yes, I mean, they were legitimately blocking people
from getting into class.
They were breaking into campus buildings.
We have a movie coming out at our outlet
called Run, Hide, Fight, Infidel.
It's an action movie that is largely based
on sort of the Columbia University situation.
It comes out tomorrow.
And Mahmoud Khalil is like an open supporter of Hamas.
He was asked repeatedly on CNN to condemn Hamas and he just refused to do it.
Columbia brought him here.
I mean, there's a character in our movie who says that Islam will use the freedoms of the
West against it.
Mahmood Khalil is an excellent example of this.
He's coming here.
He doesn't believe in any of the core freedoms of the United States, freedom of speech.
Oh, this is just like my movie that's coming out.
Birth of a nation.
He's like, Tom, this is just like the racist agit-prop that I made specifically to foment
hatred towards Muslims.
And he said it wasn't intended as a stereotype dog, who cares, man?
Oh, I come... brother.
What are we doing?
It doesn't matter. He already fucking apologized for it. What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
The ADL already agreed. Shut the fuck up.
Freedom of religion. But he's going to use the legal system of the United States to go after all the people who brought him here in the first place.
he came here on a visa provided in part by Columbia University and then took advantage of Columbia
University in order to promote his point of view and then when faced with deportation immediately
started citing freedom of speech concerns which would back nowhere else in the world where he
actually in control. You said a movie? Yes. What was the name again? It's called Run, Hide, Fight,
Infidels. It starts Jonathan Majors, a major action film and again it's predicated on the idea that
that
I love when Ben Shapiro says
This would never be allowed in any other countries like yeah, that's the exceptional nature of America you fucking idiot
Why are you trying? Why are you un-American? I'm sorry. This isn't Israel. Okay?
You bitch you man-lit bitch going on fucking foxes me like I can't believe it
Try that shit elsewhere. Oh, try that in Israel. You'd be in prison where I'd get
my friends in the IDF to rape you to death. You're fucking asshole. This ain't Israel, okay?
Suck my dick, bitch. Go live in fucking Israel if you want to live in Israel-like conditions.
What is this bullshit? Yeah, that's the whole point. Mom and Kalil has a First Amendment right.
He has a first amendment protections are supposed to protect him. That's the whole point of the first amendment
What are we doing
First amendment violations are not when you get yelled at
First amendment violations are actually when
the government restricts your speech when the government tries to kidnap you and
arrest you and throw you in fucking prison for what you have said about
another foreign country
some of these protests are taken over by an ISIS splinter group and they take
over an entire college campus you can find that data wire yep thank you Ben
Nice to see in person again.
Thanks so much for your time.
I like it when you're in New York.
I know you don't always have to be, but we like it when you're in New York.
I'm going to escape before it, you know.
Okay.
Zorn finds me.
All right.
I'll best your family as well.
Thank you.
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There is a short clip from Naza, a documentary that is.
Yeah, my.
This is one of the very few instances where I find myself somewhat at odds with the
Palestinian National Committee
and the BDS guidelines. I know that this is like a hot button subject in the anti-Zionist movement
and a lot of people say, oh, this is like normalizing, this is normalization.
You are, your framework is only considerate of like the Jewish-Israeli perspective. It's unacceptable.
I understand all of those considerations, but I still think it's good.
I think it's good. Genuinely, I think this is solid.
I don't think it's as much as a face-saving operation as people claim it is either,
especially considering that Yulel Abraham participated in no other land. It was obviously
unbelievably impactful. It was a good thing. Okay. And, uh, and, and not only that, but
this documentary is not being received fondly by the Israeli public. They're literally trying
to fucking cook his ass. I think it's, I think we can on the one hand be like, yo, wire Israeli
Jews not doing anything about the Separatite and then get mad at Israeli Jews that are
trying to do something. Yeah, that's it. And the reason why the Pasadena National Committee
has a well thought out argument against it, they consider this normalization, they consider
this unacceptable, it's a cultural boycott. I still think it's good to have Israeli Jews
engage in actions that might not always be a mezzavot and you know, because
there's like, there are Israeli anti-Zionists, there's like 12 of them,
and their conscientious objectors, they fight back all the time. These guys are
not mezzavot, they're not even anti-Zionists. I would say that they're
probably liberal Zionists, but you kind of need Israeli Jews to see this
side. Some people say they already do and they enjoy it and they entertain it. They actually love
that this kind of cruelty Palestinians are being subjected to. There's some truth to that.
Having said that, I think that, you know, it's, everyone has a starting point and I think you
U Al-Abraham is how you inevitably get to...
U Al-Abraham is the guy who's gonna get the standing together guys to become actual anti-Zionists.
If that makes sense.
But yeah, ultimately...
Ultimately, you need all the help you can get. I don't know how it's normalization to get the perpetrators of the genocide to admit it and explain the detail systems that allowed to happen.
That's the type of stuff that shows the intent of the degree needed by international courts. It's great journalism. I agree. I have leaned into 972 magazine's work.
Even though it's editor-in-chief at times have said shit that I obviously didn't appreciate, but ultimately they do fantastic work.
Okay? They do. They do really good work and not everything is sinister. Not everything is like, oh, they're doing this work because like, they're trying to set up a reasonable ground to say that like, you know, there are some Jews in Israel who are actually against the occupation of apartheid.
They're trying to fucking sneak this one by as it's like, no man. No, they just disagree. Like they literally I think sincerely fucking disagree
with the Israeli government, right?
They do
Maybe not to the same severity that is necessary. Maybe not to the same severity to your liking, but they certainly fucking disagree
You must have agreement from the oppressors. No
My argument is not that all of a sudden magically overnight Jews are gonna watch this fucking movie and be like oh my god
What have we done? I had no idea
My point is it doesn't hurt the only thing I'd argue on is that this will change anything the Israelis already know what happened
It's violating BDS for no gain. No, you're wrong
Two reasons one Western distribution white people when they see anti Zionist Jews or super critical Jews from Israel
Doing this kind of journalism will fucking turn and that's important for our movement. Okay, sorry. I
Eat it. I eat dick on a daily fucking basis with a name like Hassan
There are plenty of people American Jews, for example and American liberal Zionists
In general that will never hear my perspective. They will always go fuck that guy
That guy is a goddamn Islamic fundamentalist
But when they hear from a guy whose name is you all Abraham
In fucking Israel as a prominent journalist
They might be much more open-minded towards what he's saying and this doesn't mean it's appropriate
It doesn't mean it's just but guess what the world is not just
Okay
We have to take all of the help that we can get
Okay
We need all the hell we can get
What do you mean? What did I say?
As long as this dude is not like, as long as the dude is not like whitewashing Israel's
fucking crimes are laundering his reputation, it's fine.
But once again, you need everybody. You need everyone on board, okay? You need everyone
on board. Yeah, this isn't like Tucker Carlson. And even then, Norm Finkelstein seemingly
he found it important enough to go on until crossing.
Yeah.
Just one, one of the most prestigious film prizes, but Israeli politicians are calling
it an outrageous blood libel.
So what's going on?
Nazare is about the war in Gaza.
It claims to tell the story of how the Israeli military weighs up, how many civilians it
is prepared to kill while planning attacks in Gaza.
Naza is an Israeli acronym meaning Collateral Damage.
The film quotes anonymous sources who say that they were officers serving in Gaza who
paint a picture of AI guiding military attacks where large numbers of civilians are expected
to die.
The IDF is said to consider a price worth paying.
Bayouval, Abraham.
The film was presented at the Venice Film Festival, it won an award and got a 25-minute
standing ovation from the audience.
Thank you to the jury and we are both very grateful to be here.
It's honestly not very easy to stand here and I'm thinking of all the people, the Israeli
politicians, the journalists, back home who are now attacking this film, denying it without
even seeing it. And so much is being done to, as to not look at reality.
But the Israeli military says the claims made in this film just don't stack up. The chief
of staff of the military called it a blood libel. And the government told us that the
film was based on lies and deliberate misrepresentation.
This is a propaganda film, which is based on the idea of-
I love hearing beautiful organic regional accents from the spokesperson for the Israeli
Prime Minister.
I love hearing that organic Levant accent come out.
When you hear these guys speak, you're like, wow.
Thank you, Doran Spielman from Boca Raton, Florida, who now lives in Tel Aviv.
Thank you.
Is he from Detroit?
I made up Boca Raton.
That's awesome.
Is he actually from Detroit?
I mean, he's from America.
We know that.
That's the joke.
The joke I'm making is that he's from America.
aware. I just assumed Boko Raton. Born and educated in the United States, Doris Bielman
moved to Israel in 2000 where he serves as an International Spokesperson with Israel
Defense Force Reserves with the rank major for over two decades. He's worked to transform
the city of David into one of the world's most significant architectural and historical
He's the graduate of Churchill natural security program a senior fellow at the Harood Center in Jerusalem and a graduate of University of Michigan
No, oh my god. He is from fucking Detroit
Yeah
He's about to be like and the biggest danger to Israel is this Hamas terrorist
Hassan piker and Abdul al-sayed his best friend and running mate. Please vote for
Michael Rogers
Is he from Ogland County?
Trying to say that by Israel considering collateral damage, Israel knows where people
are before carrying out a strike, which it's the exact opposite. Israel has systems and people
that understand collateral damage to minimize the billing risk. One minister here even said that
the two directors should have their citizenship revoked.
I fucking hate this demon in a city of David Projects doing everything
about Palestinian history in my beautiful city of Jerusalem. Fuck him.
Yeah. Oh, dude, the archaeological devastation from
purposely directed by the Israeli government is an entire conversation in and of itself.
It is kind of wild.
Like whether it be the the digs that are happening under the al-Aqsa mosque or whether it be
the personal erasure of all non-Jewish history in the region that is so consequential.
Yeah, I mean, it is ISIS-style. Straight up it is ISIS-style. Isn't that literally what the Nazis did? Yes.
But the odd thing is that hardly anyone in Israel has actually seen this film, it hasn't been released here,
And even the IDF says it's working off excerpts that have been put on the internet.
But filmmakers here have rallied behind the two directors.
Rachel Shaw and Yvonne Voham are basically taking off the mask from the face of Israel
and showing to the world the real face.
face by the way low-key like these are the guys who also hate me I'm gonna be
honest like I suspect like there are Hassanabah heads who are Jewish and in
Israel who don't hate me but like this is probably the most like critical you
can be of Israel while also hating me at the same time I don't know what you
walls take is but like like there is definitely a limit to their to their
commentary to their advocacy like the moment that you talk about the past
You're right to resist the right to return
The moment where you start interfering in the in the demographic concerns of Israel like some of these guys will say whoa whoa whoa hold on now. I
Don't know. I don't know if you've all is is a fan of mine or not
I mean, I was supposed to interview him, but he couldn't make it
For no other land
And I don't know what you walls take is in general do they really hate the optics only they hate that this make them look back
Not the actual rise of Palestine. No, I know no no no I
Don't believe it. I don't believe that this is a sinister plot by you all Abraham and 972 magazine to go and fucking document the atrocities that
Are taking place in the West Bank or or this you know provide evidence to international
authorities of Israel's like voluntary and knowing intentional genocide. Yeah,
he literally is a full-time activist, like he's constantly fucking putting his
body in front of the IOF, like Israel's a supremacist society, you need Jews to
take advantage of that supremacist mentality to make, to, you know, get the
IDF the second guest shooting in the direction of Palestinians by putting Jews in between the
IDF and the Palestinians.
Yeah, they call him Hamas in Israel because he bodyblocked IDF soldiers. I know.
Wait, what? He was not allowed in the country? No, Yvonne was allowed into the United States of
America, what are you talking about?
America is never going to fucking bar
an Israeli citizen of entry into the country.
That's crazy.
There's a good place to play.
It's a good place to play.
Israeli was able to detail
a gospel in the whole of Venice.
It was in the beginning,
and then the government opened up a small town in Gaza.
It's a small town in Gaza.
It's a small town in Gaza.
There's a good place to play.
There is a lot of space here, and I'm really excited about it.
For every building you want in the picture, I'm very happy to be able to go outside of the
whole house and see how many people are going to be able to come when it's time to go.
You're looking at it for all of this, right?
Yes, really in this area, the sixth floor.
trigger if your enemy is of caloric temper seek to irritate him. Yeah. That's also kind of my
attitude on this too. Like, bro, if this shit was propaganda, they wouldn't be talking about
killing this guy. Okay. Also, I'm an American. And so are many of you. And as Americans, we oppose
the actions of the fucking American government. Okay? What do you do? Now, people will say,
oh, well, you don't take arms against your government. It's like, yeah, we're trying different things.
Okay? And the same goes for people like Yovall. I feel hypocritical. I feel hypocritical to
constantly shit on Israeli Jews who are anti Zionists or very critical of Israel's actions
overall
uh... as an as an american i feel like what am i what am i supposed to say
you know what what am i supposed to say and do these motherfuckers are doing it
now of course
course different it's a different thing because like america's genocide is in
its uh... rearview mirror
uh... it's heinous
and uh... you could say that american current american military
actions are are akin to a genocide and maybe even more consequential overall
by the death tolls if you look at it
uh... and there's truth to that as well
even though it's not happening in, you know, in our own backyard to people who are supposed
to be our fucking neighbors, right? So it's a little bit different. Having said that,
having said that, we're not fucking, you know, storming, uh, American military bases and
shit. Like it's just, what do you mean? I'm an American. This is a settler colony. Okay.
i want to change
i want to offer restitution to the victims
i want to write those wrongs and i'm working to do that i'm organizing to do
that
and i also want america to stop arming
and aiding israel and hold israel accountable use its awesome power in the
global stage
to hold israel to account for its genocide into hold our war criminals
account as well in the process
that is my goal
that is my goal
that is what i want to do
so when i see people
when i see people in israel
let it would be disappointed in you i mean i already do the revolutionary
defeatism every fucking day what are we talking about dead
like what are we talking about i think i'm fairly critical of american
military action and talk about how america must restrain itself around the
fucking globe
this
instance with iran is unbelievably violent unbelievably chaotic but
hopefully
it's a moment for america to receive a bloody nose and to restrain itself on
the global stage these are
that is quite literally the same attitude let in demonstrated in the
world war in the first world war
As an Israeli, you can leave and renounce your citizenship like many brave exes, really
Jews have done like you don't probably the native American genocide was the most violent
and comprehensive in human history.
You leaving won't undo that.
Them leaving is actually impactful.
Yes and no.
There's two different schools of thought here, right?
The one school of thought is, yeah, get all the anti-Zionist Jews out of there, like they
just leave Israel.
Okay.
Then Israel remains in the hands of ultra-Zionists who literally refuse to get like a normal
education and it's still a fucking nuclear armed power, nuclear armed regional power.
Like, you have no consideration or understanding of the demographic change that are taking
place in Israel right now.
Itamar Benjiefer is the most popular politician in Israel for the younger Jews, okay?
Why do you think that's happening?
So the other side of the story is try to get the the old guard of Ashkenazi Jews who are like, you know, liberal happiness party guys
To to hopefully recognize the changes that have taken place in Israeli society
And and use the remainder of the political power the social power
they have to make internal changes that will make it easier internal changes working alongside
the American government. I don't think people understand like this is if we're being super
pragmatic is super serious about this. If you think that here, if you think that like a violent
revolution in the hands of like a successful military operation from Palestinians is going to
like, you know, change the dynamic in Israeli society broadly is going to say, oh my god,
You defeated us militarily. We're gone. We're dead. We're done. It's yours now
Now you can have a right to return. I don't think that's a likely scenario. Okay. I don't think it's a likely scenario at all
I think it's a it's it's a she's never going to happen
And it's ironic because that's Hamas's position to Hamas literally recognizes. That's why they change their fucking charter
Right Hamas original charter and 88 is like oh, we're gonna purge all the Jews all the Israeli inhabitants from the land known as Israel
it's a legal entity, right? Hamas in 2017 was like, oh, we got to do a two-state solution.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not purging any, uh, we're not purging anyone any longer.
Why do you think they came to that recognition? Because they know it's, it's impossible. Okay.
So having said that, what is possible? Because if you look at the demographic changes and
changes in Israeli culture, in Israeli society, you come to a very scary conclusion. Israel had a
good eighty year on a very violent one where it was able to present itself as the western frontier
a satellite for american imperialism led by a bunch of secular ashkenazi jews who cared about
culture who care about the arts even though you know as fascism took root in israeli society their
art suffered as a consequence of that but regardless like they were connected to the western world
Right? That all is going away. Generations of Israeli Jews are born in Israel. They have a very
different attitude about Israel. They have a very different attitude about Judaism overall.
They have a very different attitude about how Israel must act. And these guys are incredibly
reactionary, incredibly right-wing. And they are outfucking, simply put, the liberal Zionist Jews.
They're out fucking them. Liberals, honest Jews are not having children. Israel hasn't succumbed to the same demographic problems
like the and has been able to
stay above replacement rate because of the ultra Zionist
already population for the most part. Some of them are anti-Zionist, but not many of them, right?
Most of them are the West Bank settlers.
A lot of those guys are
insanely right-wing. They're fucking full-blown right-wing like no schooling, no schooling overall,
No schooling for women only only Torah study. Okay, no service in the military stuff like that. Um, and here's the thing
If something doesn't change and I think this is the last shot
That the United States of America has to basically hold Israel to account
before Israel in
One or two additional generations if it makes it that far will turn into a very different Israel that will do the unthinkable
Okay
There's like one more generation max until Israel becomes a a country with nuclear arms
That are entirely controlled by some of the most rabid ultra Zionists out there
So, my attitude on this is like, yeah, you gotta get as many people in Israeli society as possible on board with addressing the fundamental issues with Zionism addressing the genocide and, and creating an environment of accountability before it's too fucking late.
That's it.
Now I agree with Norm, they gotta go.
If they can display millions of indigenous actual semites and level the entire land
of dirt, same thing that can happen to them in their cities, they have shown that that's
not impossible.
First of all, oh my God, this is such a touchy and annoying subject to fucking broach.
Genocide is the crime of all crimes. You can't say that Israel is as engaged in ethnic cleansing during the Nakba and the solution to that is to also ethnically cleanse
The people there. Okay, we've done that here in the United States of America. I don't think anyone's advocating as far as land bag initiatives goes
For the indigent population to fucking come and like murder
Everyone that came here, you know, decades a century after centuries after, right? That's ridiculous
and it's not like that's the indigenous population's demand either.
Like, don't be ridiculous. This is not a real tag. It's not a real attitude.
And also, here's the reality. The abolition of the apartheid and the abolition and the end of
the occupation creates an environment, forcible plurality, forcible diversity, directed by the
international community. Okay, through multilateral cooperation, we'll already create an environment
where there will be a self-selecting purge, a voluntary purge, not dissimilar to apartheid
South Africa, where many apartheid South Africans, many of the Afrikaners converted to Judaism and
fucking left to go to Israel because they could not live in a land where black people would have
the same rights as them. The apartheid enjoyers. So yes, of course I believe that people, even
people who have done profound wrong to one another can eventually live peacefully alongside
one another and coexist. Of course, I believe that. I live in America. It's the fucking
greatest example of that reality. Okay. That's what that's it.
So that's my belief. My belief is you abolish the apartheid, you end the occupation through,
obviously, an international organization led by the American government. Of course, this
would be very difficult to achieve, but led by the American government, unless because
there's no initiative that will ever take place without America pushing for it. And
All the people that have a real supremacist attitude will probably try to do the same thing that the clan did in the Reconstruction period.
But the failures of Reconstruction cannot be repeated in this circumstance. That's my dream. That's my hope. That's what I think is probably the most likely scenario out of a sequence of unlikely scenarios.
Yeah, when you are trying to dismantle an ethnic supremacist apartheid state, there
are only two ways it can happen, either a full military defeat of the fascist supremacist
government or it's dismantling through coordination with the non-supremacist members of the Ingroup,
the oppressed group, and international pressure and support, exactly.
And considering that it is impossible for there to be a full military defeat, because
Israel is not just alone, Israel is not just a country with nuclear arms, Israel is backed
by the United States of America. So that's never going to happen. While Iran is capable
of defending its ancestral homelands against the American military, there's no fucking
way that regional militaries by vassalized states like Egypt are going to be able to
take over Israel, especially at this point, considering that Arab countries have tried
in the past and failed to do so. It's just not going to happen. Israel is more powerful
in many respects, militarily, in comparison to all the other countries, surrounding it,
whose militaries are American militaries to begin with, this is not going to happen.
There's no defeating Israel militarily, okay?
This is not going to happen.
So you do need cooperation from Israeli Jews, Israeli Jews, and a wide coalition of Israeli
Jews that might even not necessarily care about Palestinian humanity, but do care about,
i don't know i'm not letting the country be overtaken by ultra zionist uh...
already populations that are going to change the
the social and political makeup that are already changing the social and
political makeup of israel this is the most extreme extremely pragmatic
approach to the issue
okay how many bars you look at i have so many monitors did
literally all over i mean have you guys not seen my
my photos
my BTS photos.
Most of the time when I look down here,
though I'm looking at the chat,
I'm reading the fucking chat.
That is less likely to happen than military defeat.
What is this?
I don't think that's less likely.
I think that's the more likely scenario.
I think both are unlikely for the record. Okay, I think both are unlikely
I'm not saying that one is a guarantee and the other is not I'm just saying both are unbelievably unlikely one is just a
little bit less
Unlikely than then military defeat
But like Israel's not getting more popular than it is right now is downhill for them. Who's to say they will keep on being unbeatable. What?
Dude
whether it's military defeat, which is not going to happen or
Or this political
You know detanglement of the apartheid itself and and the creation of a singular solitary secular state
That is a pluralistic democracy
Neither of which are going to happen when America backs Israel to the fucking hilt
That's our job I
Want the abolition of the apartheid I want the end of the occupation
I want Palestinians to be able to live free lives. I want a fucking right to return for all Palestinians. These are just
demands
So focus on what you can do in your own world. Okay, instead of fucking fantasizing about like, I don't know
people overtaking Israel militarily a country with nuclear arsenal a country with
Unlimited support from the Western world
The only side note I would make in regards to the power structures of the region is the
abject failures of Saudi Arabia and Yemen have a tremendous opportunity for the end
of the proxy governments that are beholden to American power.
I agree.
I agree.
Except, you go back to square one.
Okay.
You go back to 67.
What happened?
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Like, the most, the best possible scenario for military defeat of Israel is still 67.
Okay?
Do you understand?
So yeah, it's not, it's not happening, especially now, when there is no autonomy within the
military, within the militaries of any of the surrounding countries, even if they were
to rid themselves of, even if they were to rid themselves of American interference, their
entire military is American gear. She's not happening.
Yes, 73, 67, 48. Like, whichever, whichever example you want to use.
Yes.
It's not like this hasn't been tried. My point is it's been tried already.
and it's it's failed and and there is even less likelihood for it to take place currently.
When Amasa's two-state solution do they mean like 67 borders? Yes, that's what they mean.
For your information, Goldemirah had nukes almost ready to go against Egypt if it weren't for American
intervention in 73.
I
Bought my county commissioner from fucking Western Montana is doing massage sponsored trips
We are irrefutably occupied in a granular level. We're so good flat-headed county commissioner tours Israel at the best of Israeli government
What the fuck there
He wanted to see a state that America cares about a fuck of a lot more than Montana. Okay. He's like, let me go see this
You know, 51st state that they're calling Israel
Oh
Cush man 4200 his son sucks dick
Yeah, but your dad sucks me after you know what I mean we're gay together your father is gay chatter
Okay, I
I have gay sex with your dad and he loves it. I'm your new stepfather, actually. I'm your gay stepdad and you're fucking grounded
Okay
Flathead County's where David Duke lives and is full of white supremacist so it's not that surprising
I mean, it's a little bit surprising David Duke is not exactly fond of
Jews in general. I don't think
We both agreed we would keep this from my son Pogo. Sorry I had to out you.
I'm not the step dad. I'm the dad that stepped up. Okay.
Trump approves $2.8 billion arms sales to Israel, including 40,001 ton bombs.
The package will be among the largest deliveries of us munitions. Oh my God.
Oh my God. Our fucking boomer class, dude.
Just unbearable. Just motherfucking unbearable dude.
That's why it's funny that we talk about like what to do with Israel. Like as though we have any fucking, we have any say in the matter, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean? Look at this shit. Look at our fucking boomer class. Look how much they love Israel
This package is paid for by the American taxpayer. Hell yeah, baby. That's what I want
That's what I'm saying
The report of 2.8 billion packages funded by US taxpayers via foreign military financing grants for Israel to buy US weapons not a direct Israeli purchase
I
Think you've retrained in my life. You're literally too outward to understand a break of this country in your care
Grandkids on behalf of Israel
Hell yeah, baby
Dude, that's right. Dude. I'm Israel. Hi folks. I feel so good about this admin. I
Feel so good
People are begging for the Iran war to end and for prices to go down and the best this
2.8.
Billion.
There.
Ah.
I don't know what to do with it.
Monkey type.com.
of the press is all God
what is this while Kyle Kuzma retweeting hate tweets
Hey, let's roll out the red carpet baby one day special at the border. He walks in with whoever he wants at white house at dhs.gov
Yeah, this is from a while ago
Yeah, kuzma hates me apparently I don't think he I mean look I respect Kyle kuzma, okay
He's one of the very few basketball players who's actually a victim of cte and I think that's kind of cool
okay, just as I have a special place in my heart for
for Nick Merck's first recipient of CTE, first CTE victim as a podcaster or a Twitch streamer.
Kyle Kuzma is one of the few basketball players that has CTE. I think that's cool. Like, I
think that's unique. And you clearly don't understand it. You don't understand how unique
This is
Kyle's watch you probably can beat him in ball he's watched are you kidding me he would fucking destroy me
What are you talking about?
That's it. Okay, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Okay, even the worst NBA player even the most washed NBA player would destroy me
With their eyes fucking closed with their hands tied behind their backs. Okay?
The only thing I can destroy kakusman is a is a fit-off if we did a fit-off we go if we went fit for fit
I would destroy him he wears the goofy as shit
Yeah, kakus was a Gigi fucking easy
I think it's awesome. Actually, you know what? You know what I think about this?
I'm going to tell you what I truly think about this. Controversial opinion.
This is anti-semitic. It should have been $10 billion in arms sales to Israel.
It's so anti-semitic, I can't even get the words out of my mouth.
I think this is deeply anti-semitic, and I think Fox News should cover it as deeply anti-semitic.
Why not 10 billion? Why not 50,001 ton bombs? Why not 20,002 ton bombs?
It's really fucked up. Israel deserves every tax dollar, okay? Not just 10 billion dollars,
every single tax dollar. Witnessing previously unimaginable levels of magaboom or cope, what is
this? I keep hearing people complain that gasoline is over $4 a gallon, and yes, I'd love to see it at $2
again, but before we declare gasoline the most expensive or what? Uh, most outrageously expensive
liquid on earth. Let's put things in perspective for $4. I get a gallon of gasoline poured into a
4,000-pound machine tourniquet and that gallon will haunt me. My wife groceries the golf clubs.
Wait, what the fuck? They're talking about how wonderful it is that we have the internal combustion
engine, okay? They're back to defending like car travel. What is happening? I mean, you
could argue that $10 a gallon is still appropriate and acceptable with that mentality. You know
I mean, I'd say it's pretty impressive days work for four dollars
Yeah, hillbilly James who 27192 912
It's court retweeted by Mark Levin who says well said hillbilly
You my friend
have won the day. You clearly got a good head on your shoulders unlike this Hassan Piyoka
who I think should be paraded through the streets of New York City for his crimes against the Jewish
state.
That's Gilbert Goughry. No, that's exactly what, man, that's how Mark Levin sounds.
What are you talking about?
I don't think, don't think about how Mark wants you to pay more for gas and use your
military to start wars on behalf of country that's 7,000 miles away.
You're cattle.
Pretend that cars are magic.
You're his greatest ally.
Yeah.
Why is your Mark living so good?
The fuck do you mean?
Why is my Mark living so good?
Because I've listened to him yell about me and yell about the shift for years at this point. That's why it's so good
Anyway, um, where were we we're talking about NASA how the fuck do we get all into like long conversations about what to do with the
Israeli apartheid and stuff like that
Yeah, front pages of mainstream newspapers in Israel today. NASA is blood libel
Look, my argument is as such
Okay, everyone has a different role to play here and
And I just don't think that these guys are like against the overarching goals that we
all have.
If our goal is the end of the occupation, the abolition of the apartheid, I don't think
these guys are against that.
That's how I feel about it.
Like people will be like, oh, they're flexing. Oh, they, like they, they get, um,
they are, uh, you know, they get benefits that Palestinians don't. It's true. They do, right?
They get freedom of travel, for example.
Wait, Chatters are criticizing filmmakers? Not really. There are some, there are some in the
anti-Zionist movement that think that this is a violation of BDS and it's true. It is technically,
I mean, when No Other Land came out, BDS, the Housing National Committee actually
criticized it quite a bit. Said it was normalizing. Said it was unacceptable. Said that they got
funds from the Israeli state. I think this did as well. I just don't look. I ride with
those guys at the end of the day, and I agree with them on 99% of their arguments and advocacy.
I follow BDS. You know, I drink fucking diet, Dr. Pepper, instead of my first love Diet
Coke. This is one of the instances where I don't fully subscribe. I don't fully agree.
I know people will say bad take, but I think this kind of stuff is important. It's important
for the Western facing audience. These kinds of just to correct the record, Nasa was funded
by the Guardian. That was really funding. Yeah, I was just saying that no other land,
I think got like some kind of cultural,
like some kind of like cultural ministry funding
or something, if I remember correctly.
Anyway, the point is this, the point is this.
We do not recognize
what kind of impact stuff like this has
in a long enough timeline, right?
We don't know, we don't understand, we don't recognize what kind of impact investigative
reporting of this magnitude has in the grand scheme of things, especially when it comes
to the Western-facing audiences, which are unbelievably important in terms of decoupling
the rest of the world from Israel, because Israel cannot continue doing what it's doing
without full-blown unconditional social, political, and also material support from western countries.
So stuff like this is still, I think, very good. It's good to hear from Israeli journalists as
well. Of course, first and foremost, good to hear from Palestinian journalists, the ones that
haven't been slaughtered at this point. But my attitude on this always is like,
There are most liberal take yes, it is it is a liberal take I can sue me. Okay, I don't see you picking up arms
You know, I don't see you trafficking arms to Hamas. Okay, so yeah
The point is the point is
Every little bit helps and as long as someone is especially like a one-stater
As long as someone is a one-stater, as long as someone is like, you know, saying the truth and showing the reality inside of Israel, the reality of this genocide, and that's a good thing.
Thank you to the jury and we are both very grateful to be here.
It's honestly not very easy to stand here and thinking of all the people, the Israeli politicians, the journalists,
back home who are now attacking this film, denying it, without even seeing it.
And so much is being done to, as to not look at reality.
The reality is that since this festival started, just over these 10 days, Israel killed 6 Palestinian children in Gaza, at least.
A 3-year-old girl at a school was born, 7-year-old, with her father in the car, two sisters at home sleeping.
And, you know, the Israeli intelligence officers we spoke with talked to us how this mass killing is systemic,
not by accident, but by design, actions of murder and policies that are based on total dehumanization of Palestinians.
And I want to be very clear, this truth has been documented and is known from the very first day thanks to Palestinian journalists.
More than 200 of them were killed by Israel in Gaza.
Their voices were silenced and denied.
We believe that the denial of a crime is what helps it persist.
And that's why it's really, really especially important for us that Israelis watch this film.
It's our country that is doing these crimes, that Europeans watch it,
and especially here in Italy because your government, the German government,
are blocking pressure on Israel that can end this, that Americans watch it, because that country is
funding much of the killing. I want to say thank you. I want to say thank you to Rachel, my partner.
I want to say thank you to the Guardian and to Jim Wilson, our producers, to Jonathan Glaser,
our executive producer, and thank you, and thank you to the jury. Thank you very much.
Jonathan Glaser, my beloved.
ADL can't bring themselves to condemn who steds neo-Nazi staffer.
The Nazi curious ADL takes a brief break from defamation of pop stars and streamers as a
free Palestine to offer a begrudging, nameless comment about the Republican Party's daily
odes to Nazism.
There should be no place for racism in American political life, including in political offices
in on campaigns. Hmm. I wonder who they're talking about, dude. They added campaigns
because they, they think like this way they can be like, well, this is a f**k a s**t post.
Staff members of elected officials have a responsibility to uphold the same standards
that DCC integrity we expect from those they serve. Leaders have a responsibility to ensure
that the people representing them are not promoting or perpetuating hate. Huh. Huh.
interesting. Interesting. Yeah, now that they hit that, we need like 55 additional condemnations
of Hassan, the American Hamas. God damn it. My editors dropped the ball, man. My editors
drop the fucking ball they they basically posted yesterday's Macklemore Ed Sheeran
video today big time ball dropping we've been so fast we've been quick draw
McGraw up in this bitch I just saw one hour ago they released yesterday's video
one hour ago, man. It's crazy. Unforgivable. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed yet. Me too,
chatter. Me too. 30 year mortgage rate is on a breakout right now. I already touching 725.
They're calling the 777 economy, $7 a gallon for guests. 7% interest rate, 700K asking price.
Oh
Good one
There's bits from today's stream, oh there is okay good
You're getting too used to the quickness not everything can be our same day. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I
expect it
Said hey, what the hell
It's one out of ten. It's one out of ten. So that's good
Even if they're late even if they're late
What is this oh wait, I forgot this is how you and your team are operating my day is 6 a.m.
To noon and I'm not crazy you're crazy. Yeah, this is what my expectation is straight up
up.
It's great up.
I'm thinking it takes 24 hours, just like some dude in a cave did 300 years ago.
My second day starts at noon and goes till 6pm.
That's day two.
And then the next day is 6pm to midnight.
What I've done now is I have changed the manipulated time.
I now get 21 days a week.
Stack it up over a month.
I'm going to kick your butt.
Stack it up over a year.
You're toast.
Stack it up over five years.
My entire life is different than it would have been otherwise.
Your editors couldn't even put out an issue in video yesterday.
No, I know.
I told Austin Ox that last night we didn't even have a TikTok, bro.
We didn't have a TikTok.
Are you fucking kidding me?
That would have been a milli.
That would have been a milli TikTok easy.
Maybe two, maybe three.
Right off the rip.
It's fine.
It's fine.
We gotta go Chinese mode.
We gotta go 996 up in this bitch.
know what I mean? Anyway, I mean, look, it happens. It happens. It happens. Not the
end of the world you know your boy ran for the Republican ticket and GTRP what is this
a ban on closet doors a universal ban on closet doors
Manitour testosterone for men, mandatory estrogen for women.
That's so good, a universal ban on closet tours.
Is he anti-LGBT?
Is he anti-LGBT politician?
Is that what he's portraying himself as, which is who he is in real life, by the way, just
so you know.
That is who he is.
This is his real side coming out, messed up.
Are you tired of not getting the job because you're sexually mean to me?
I'll be making straight bread month and banning proteins mandatory to sister and for man mandatory after then for a woman
and a universal closet door.
He's a straight man who keeps saying he isn't gay at any moment, even though it's unrelated.
Okay, I love that.
He's screaming, I'm not gay and Lebanese.
He's playing a closet is Scottish anarchist.
But if we get into a situation where we have to suck one of the cops off, I'll do it, but I'm not gay.
I'll hold the balls, I'll hold the balls, because that's not gay.
If we've got to administer fallatio in exchange for getting out of a crime, I'll deliver, but I'm not gay.
That's brilliant.
That's brilliant.
It's just so funny because he actually is gay.
Dude, I love that he's playing this like...
It's actually brilliant. Good shit.
Oh my god. He's so funny.
Damn, this motherfucker is the funny one on the pod. I can't...
I can't believe it. He's actually the funny one on the pod, dude.
What the fuck? This is actually funny.
Hey, you think that this is real?
What the heck is going on?
Ah, this is going on over and over again.
I'm not gay, you're really pissing me off.
I'm not gay!
I'm not gay!
Oh, shit.
Oh, my god.
I'm not gay!
But that's a done-a-take-a-sayin'-combo!
I ain't not gay!
I'm not gay!
I'm telling you, I'm not gay!
I was great quality gay!
I'm tired of everybody thinking I'm a homosexual!
I'm fucking thinking!
Sorry!
Fuck, oh my god!
I'm not gay!
You're doing gay?
Stop calling me gay!
Oh my god!
Oh god, don't be afraid!
Oh my god!
Why are you saying that?
It's a pretty solid...
It's a pretty solid Scottish accent. Respect.
This was the first three years of a streaming career.
I don't know what you're talking about. It is it is interesting how good he is at being an in-the-closet gay man of a different nationality.
Hmm. Much to consider.
Are you craving GZRV now? Yes. A little bit.
A little bit.
What is this?
Yeah, I did. I did what was past parts of it. Yeah.
Why was it? Yeah. The first night.
Why was Hassan Piker's picture up of him like flexing?
Because everything is going so badly.
The economy is in the gutters.
The war with Iran is extremely popular.
What they have decided to do is to go like the Democratic Party is getting too radical
and getting almost too left-wing for even the most left-leaning people so they are trying to
they're just trying to go like they're embracing the radicals so they don't like
yeah but what about my dick though like what does that have to do with that argument you know what I mean
Hassan Piker and Zoran Mamudani and they're trying to basically you know to use the politics of fear
like oh you see that this party is not just like the democratic party it's almost like the
al-Qaeda or islamist wing of like American leftist ideals and so also Hassan Peck has become like
such a cajol that he used to beat every democrat candidate with and I think that's why they were
highlighting him. I hear you but this is an odd picture to use. That's what I think too. Yes it's
It's like Hassan Parker and Magic Mike XXL.
It's the same way that he's thinking.
It's just a very photoring picture of Hassan Parker.
Yeah.
You know, the abs, you know, he's fixing those muscles.
This dude literally streams.
There's gotta be at least one picture of him
like mouth half open with food in it.
Oh, you're saying the picture doesn't.
Dude, don't give him fucking ideas.
What the hell, bro?
Josh Johnson, shut up!
They already do that.
They do that when I put Zen in my mouth.
Like, right as I put Zen in my mouth
at one of these fucking conferences,
they use that all the time.
That's right here.
This dude, right here.
I didn't even know he was built like that.
Yes.
Yes.
There's so much harm with someone streaming.
You're saying what was the creative inspiration
behind the picture?
It goes with the picture.
Okay, yeah.
Like, if you're trying to tell me someone's bad.
Yes, yes.
That's not the picture to use.
You're right.
If you're telling me someone is like an evil threat
to democracy, if you're telling me someone is a monster,
this isn't the picture to use.
He looks like you remember the picture of Khmer
when he, yeah, when he got ripped.
When he got ripped for like the Marvel's movie,
he looks like-
Josh Johnson, the Daily Show writer, Joe O'Pio, yeah.
Like that.
Even in the Khmer thing, they were promoting a movie.
Yes.
People are like telling a bunch of lies about Hasan and then why they blurred the underwear
out?
Because you can see it.
You can see the underwear and you can also see it's underwear so it's like you're not
even blurring.
There's no naked image to blur.
They should have brought up the abs I think.
The abs.
If I were like independent and I was like leaning a bit to the public I would go like
I'll vote for whichever party this guy belongs to. That's what I'm saying. Yes. Yeah, it's really really good
Like this is not hitting the liberal soy boy
Alligations. No, it's like this is
This is what they wish they were built like
It looks like he has upper
Body strength which is I think they always accuse liberals of never having he looks like he actually lifts
in this picture. Yeah, no. A friend of mine who sadly happens to be the pro-life movies
is a lot of the people who put on and organize events like this with the RNC are actually
gay like closeted gay and they're obsessed with you. So it's unsurprising the photo made
it to the program. Yeah, I know. And they're also very online. It's both, it's both of
those things, right? One, they're just gay. They're gay as fuck. They're super gay. And
Because of that, they have this like, uh,
psychosexual pathological obsession.
Um,
but then, um, the, the, uh,
forgot what I was going to say.
I'm uploading the edge here and post right now on my Instagram while I'm
talking. I'm sorry. Part of it is because they're just gay and turned on. Okay. And they hate
that they're turned on, I think. But I still don't understand why. I mean, I guess they
want to be cuckolded. Is that what it is? Oh, awesome. Why is the video late? The stream
I had to edit. Okay, dude. Okay, dude, it's true.
give us healthcare if you fuck their wives is that what we need to do I mean I
would do it I said I would do it for health care let's maybe enough about
a sign this about something else that has been causing waves in the news and
that's on the subject your pig mom so the R&C picking was like his abs term
people left he's too hot not to
when we apologize for the use of the term cook in a derogatory way as someone
who's girlfriend sleeps with other people, I am offended.
See, that's what I don't understand.
It's like, shouldn't you enjoy that?
I said, did you get your check?
The dude, you're being disrespectful.
You can't make this up.
What is this?
We can all benefit from an extra $5,000.
So could you at least say that's a good thing,
$5,000 paycheck?
Did you get your dose check?
All right, excuse me.
Did you?
Is that disrespectful comment?
Could be $5,000 paycheck, you know, stay on topic.
We were guaranteed the promise of $5,000 paycheck.
If we're talking about-
Did you get a dose check?
Yeah, you're testing my patience.
No, no, I did not get the dose check.
I say, Martin, you know that.
Did you get your tariff check?
No, I did not so are you are you serious right now? You don't want to talk about that now.
Are you serious right now? Why are you so bent, dude? Why are you so mad? Isaiah is just
looking out for you. He's just reminding you that you're supposed to be getting a fucking
paycheck from the Trump administration. The total owed to every American is what 13 grand
at this point. Why are you mad, man? Also drink some water. What the fuck's going on
with your voice?
So seriously, okay, okay, like relax, just answer the question. $5,000 check.
So that's currently $8,000 in checks that it currently owes you. And now you seriously
believe that he's going to give you another $5,000. So what that's $13,000.
He said, relax, man. Stop saying facts.
Check city.
I'm specifically talking about the breaking news.
They 5,000 or paycheck.
There's a lot of people going through it.
A lot of people are struggling to have bills.
They have bills.
They have car problems.
Isaiah, we have we have car problems.
We have the high note.
You have children.
We need to see because he he has a witness term first.
I don't have any answer. I'm not able to provide that or who controls the house of representatives.
Dude, just admit it's a good thing you're coming up with these smart-ass questions. I'm not
in the mood for that.
Who controls the house of representatives? Republican.
Who control the United States Senate?
Right now, Republican.
who controls the White House.
Right now, I'd be a Republican.
So the Republicans control the House, the Senate,
and the White House.
You just told me that you're having problems paying your bills.
So the question is, why doesn't he do it now?
Dude, people are going through it.
I don't know.
I'm not here to talk about that.
And if you don't want to just sit here and say, hey,
That's good. Thanks. No, thank you. No, it's not satire, brother.
I'm I'm afraid to report if you have a conversation, like a long
standing conversation with a with a hog, you will arrive at the same fucking results.
They'll just get increasingly more mad that they're wrong.
OK, they want you to hear their pain.
They want you to hear their struggle.
And then they want you to agree with them that it's somehow Brandon's fault.
OK.
No. The only problem with this hog is that he's too honest. Dean is also getting the
due condom Hassan from Predictable Sources. What do you know, Hassan Piker called liberals
libtards, said they bad things about liberals. He said that liberals are close to MAGA. He
said majority said that my record is 9-11. How do you like respond to that? How do you
respond to all that stuff? He said, I don't think I need to even warrant a response to
I'm here to debate about the government not some comments made it by a twitch streamer about liberals
Dude these guys are they literally I mean that's probably like a fucking sex past any supporter because he's like hitting the liberal angle right and it's like
Have had liberals
That are close to MAGA have they thought about not being close to MAGA
go yeah I'm near to debate about the government man like yeah thank you thank
you for letting me know that some that a twitch streamer said something that
dude that's super beneficial man also why'd you go why'd you why'd you like not
respond to destiny like why do you not hang on why I don't hang out with dude
Jesus fucking Christ they're such pests dude I swear to God they literally they
They live for this shit.
They don't do anything else.
Their only expression of political action
is defending their sex pest cult leader.
It's so fucking strange.
It is so unbelievably mentally ill.
And I don't even know what's so exciting about it.
You know what I mean?
Like I don't understand how you can continue doing this
simultaneously think you're literally doing political action. Plenty of my supporters,
long-term supporters, do not go to these great lengths to defend my honor,
even when it's like electorally consequential. You know what I mean?
I just don't understand it at a certain point. Look, my expectation from elected representatives
to be like, why are we talking about Hassan Piker? I'm not here to fucking discuss
Hassan Piker. You can talk about it.
Himself, you should have him on. Have him discuss these issues at length.
He's willing to do it. Okay. That's my expectation for elected representatives.
That's my expectation from my audience that is not willing to entertain these kinds of
conversations. If you want to, you can. But I'm never go out in the world and defend my honor.
That's the only thing you can do. Yeah, we're gonna watch Abdul versus empty podium debate.
22 months until election day in all eyes, of course, around the race for US Senate in
Michigan.
Democrat Dr. Abdul Al Sayed is squaring off against Republican microgrgers with control
of Congress on the line.
If you watch the pulse often, you've heard us say before, this show is all about people,
power, and politics.
Well, tonight is no different because public office and political power is not simply a
position to be won.
It is a trust to be earned.
And earning that trust means standing before the people, answering their questions and
and defending the choices you would make in their name.
And that's why debates matter, no matter who the moderator is.
So tonight, we were hoping to hear from both Rogers and Al-Sayed, giving voters the full
picture.
Invitations went out August 5th, the day after the primary, to both campaigns.
Dr. Al-Sayed's camp immediately agreed.
Former Congressman Mike Rogers acknowledged the invite, but didn't say whether he'd attend
until this morning, when he declined.
He did agree to debates in Grand Rapids and another station in Detroit later on.
Now, former Congressman Rodgers changes his mind.
His team is watching.
We're leaving a podium open for him, and he's welcome to join us any time in the next
hour.
That is not a prop.
That is a working microphone that is ready to hear him out.
And you can join in too.
Just scan the QR code on your screen and text me your questions at 248-2005-042.
You can ask your question, and we'll ask it right here on Fox2.
As long as you ask why people keep saying this guy's in his meds when he's not.
They're seated behind me as you can tell and obviously this is a very important day.
An important night.
Dr. Al Sayed is here.
We want to remind you that we are taking your questions right from our studio audience
as well.
All right.
Let's go ahead and get into it and get to our first question right now to Dr. Al Sayed.
Thank you so much for joining us here tonight on The Pulse.
Yeah.
Honored so much to be here.
I'm grateful to you and honored to engage in what is a debate about where we ought to
go as a state. I was never supposed to run for office. I wanted to be a doctor. I wanted
to be a doctor. I could go 15 hours to my family's native Egypt or 15 minutes from
where I grew up. Either way, I traveled 10 years difference in life expectancy. I went
into public health when I realized that our healthcare system was often too interested
in billing.
Was dressing up nice in case you were shocked you were probably the spread comedy department
in Anda?
Yeah.
That's why I dress up nice.
That's why I dress up nice.
The Wayne County's Department of Health, Human and Veteran Services. We eliminated medical
debt, put Narcan in vending machines for free, put glasses on kids' faces.
I'm running for US Senate, simply because it just shouldn't be this hard.
It shouldn't be this hard to afford a second bag of groceries, shouldn't be this hard to
pay rent, shouldn't be this hard in the richest, most powerful country in the world to see
a doctor.
And we're in a moment right now where too often the challenges we face have everything
to do with the...
Oh yeah, I mentioned the sex best, there was a cult is here.
...the second ads from big corporations who fund them, then actually having a conversation
with the broader public.
I think if he were here, he would tell you that this race is somehow about him or me.
It's not.
It's about you.
It's about who respects you enough to take your questions and listen when you share what
is frustrating you.
Gas, groceries, the ability to see a doctor, whether or not your kids' schools are well-funded.
Those are the things that this race is about.
Let me see the QR code dog.
You can find it on your own.
And those are the problems I hope to be able to take on as your next US senator.
I was looking forward to a good debate, but I would not miss the opportunity to answer
questions from fellow Michiganders. And I'll finish here. Last week, Mike Rogers took the
time to go to Dallas, Dallas, to give a speech at a convention held in the interest of Donald
Trump. But he didn't have the time to spend an hour with us here in Detroit. And it tells you
everything about who he is and what his priorities are.
Dr. I'll say, I don't want to begin with our first topic. It has to do with experience.
You know, you talk often about what you want to do, what you've done in the past, both as
in the health department in Wayne County and in Detroit.
When it comes to the kind of experience it takes
to be a statesman, to be a U.S. senator,
to travel through those hallowed chambers
and to understand how to get things done
with people you don't agree with,
what makes you believe you have the skillset
to actually embrace that talent quickly
and move forward for the people of Michigan?
I appreciate the question, Rube.
Let me tell you, my first experience in public service
was serving the city of Detroit post bankruptcy.
That was not an easy place to get things done.
And yet we walked in to rebuild a department
that had been shut down after our state,
Republicans like Mike Roger, pushed it into bankruptcy.
And we rebuilt it around the well-being of kids.
We did things like having reschooled daycare
and Head Start tested for letting the water
after the Flint water crisis.
Put glasses on kids, so much so
that the program has delivered 50,000 pairs of glasses
statewide since we kicked it off in the city of Detroit.
That kind of work, that kind of leadership
It means bringing people together to work together around a shared goal.
That's the kind of leadership we need more of in the US Senate.
But it also means showing up and talking to constituents, understanding their frustrations,
showing up in the way that I have today, in the way that my opponent has chosen not to.
And it also means recognizing that you need diverse skill sets that we bring to the table.
If I were to be elected into the US Senate, I'd be the first Democratic doctor elected
the u.s. Senate since nineteen sixty nine first ever public health official elected the u.s. Senate
here in michigan we just had to take on a cyclosporiasis epidemic now thankfully cyclosporiasis is not
deadly but it's really real looks Dominican his book under the leadership true who Mike Rogers
is running to be a rubber stand for they doged so much of the infrastructure of public health
that's supposed to protect us from things like this we need a u.s. senator ready on day one to work
with others to solve problems.
That's exactly what I did in the city of Detroit.
It's what I've done in Wayne County, and it's what I aim to do in the U.S. Senate.
Dr. Al-Sayed, respectfully, though, you talk a lot about the health issues that, of course,
you've helped solve and get in front of and make sure that people had what they needed.
But certainly, you understand the depth of the kind of work that these senators do.
You've talked to other people who have that job.
You have to get along with other people, and you have to get along well with those who
you disagree with.
The tone of this campaign has been anything but civil.
And the responsibility of making sure it's a civil conversation rests on the shoulders
of both you and also Mike Rogers.
Do you have any regrets about the tone of this campaign that could make people believe
that perhaps you're not able to work with people you disagree with?
Well, look, when it comes to principle, I'm always going to stand on principle.
But I would love to have conversations with folks with whom we disagree.
Civility is about how you engage with others.
I am here today to have a conversation about who we are and who we want to be, what we
want for our state.
I showed up because civility starts with showing up and having a conversation.
That obviously is not the choice that my opponent made.
But I want us to think a little bit about where we go from here.
Think a little bit about why things don't get done in the halls of DC.
Too often it's not because people disagree, too often it's because the corporations who
pay for campaigns can rig a system so that regardless of who wins, they're bought and
paid for by the same corporations, GTE, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Big Tech, Big Pharma,
all corporations who have donated to my opponent.
So I'm actually interested in coming together to have a conversation, to reach past the
politics that tells us that the only way to run campaigns is for corporations to come
and buy and sell a politician to do their bidding anyway.
I think Michiganders across the state are looking forward to that.
And I'll finish here.
I spent the last week rather than being in Dallas, up and down the state, having conversations
in a town hall format, where people get to ask their questions.
Not everybody there agreed with me.
Several of them said, look, I voted for Donald Trump multiple times.
Why should I vote for you?
But that's what civility starts with, the willingness to show up and answer questions.
And that's exactly what I'm hoping to do alongside my colleagues so that we can get things done
in the U.S. Senate.
In the spirit of that, Dr. Al-Sayed, you can only talk about your own actions in this campaign.
But specifically, there were not proud moments in this campaign between the two of you.
There were moments that we wouldn't teach our high schoolers to act the way the two
of you acted.
about putting pads on and who likes football more whether who started it or
who didn't this conversation got through now and back room into the kind of stuff
room but the fuck only but it was happening in real life do you regret
that do you wish that the tone was a little bit different and do you believe
that you have a responsibility to set a good example for others well with all
the respect rutch there are football teams in most high schools and football
is a great way to engage when somebody wants to make it about football I didn't
make it about football my interest is on your gas prices on your groceries it's
on whether or not you can see a doctor when you get sick I called it yeah he's
overcorrected in talking about starting all the way back in April what the fuck
2025 when we kicked off this campaign we went to 110 different what the fuck
150 public events and everywhere we went we talked about the same issues we want
money where the comments money in your pocket Medicare for all I understand
that my opponent wants to make this about football he wants to make it about a
Streamer in California. He wants to make about anything and everything that isn't about your gas prices
Isn't about whether or not you can afford your groceries. No chill, bro
Whether on your bro, so I'm really really interested in answering those questions
Which is why I showed up today to answer
Canary think of the 13 give the subs support independent media and ask support the independent twist roomer from California folks
Chances are you are looking at having to pay more because of my subscribing fighting having to pay more because of a hot war with Iran
we should not be fighting, having to pay more because of a set of policies brought to you
by Donald Trump and his chosen sock puppet, Mike Rogers.
And at the end of the day, I just think it's really, really important for any of us and
all of us to be focused on the issues.
So my commitment is, I'm always gonna bring the conversation back to you and your family
and your ability to afford the basic things that you need in your life.
And I think I would love to see my opponent commit to the same thing.
Well, Dr. Al-Sayed, I know you don't like to talk about the Hassan-Piker relationship
and every time you're asked about it, you say it's not about that, it's about these other things,
but apparently it is about this too, right? It can be about more than one thing, two things
can be true. People care about everything you spoke of, but they also care about this. In fact,
our first text question, we've gotten many of them asking this, can you completely 100% disavow
offensive comments made by Hassan Piker? Absolutely. Look, I take comments on their own terms. And
when Hassan made these comments about about Jewish Americans and Jewish
Michiganders I disavowed them entirely but I do want to ask us a question what is democracy for
democracy is about come on dude differences peaceably that's what it's supposed to be for
and too often the way that our politics happen is that we're told who we cannot talk to the reason
I talked to Hassan isn't because of Hassan it's because of the three million people who pay attention
to what he has to say. And I think it's important to be able to offer those folks a pathway back
into our politics. I believe in a politics where we actually show up and talk to each other even
if we disagree. It's the same reason- Now they're going to click his ass. They're going to be like,
well, you said Israel endangers the lives of Jews. You did the same thing.
I went on Jesse Waters of all places. I had a 25-minute conversation about our differences,
but that's what the Monarchs said. So I've made a commitment that's going to go
Everywhere and talk to everyone and I resist the idea that we should play this cancel culture
Now they're gonna move the fucking goal post when democracy is about trying to build a coalition because you went out and talked to as
Many people
Possible doesn't mean you agree with everything that the person you're talking to says but it does mean that you believe in the process of
Democracy that starts with talking again
Now they're gonna say why would you ever campaign with a guy who's like a serious anti-semite that you're saying has said something
anti-Semitic and to kind of directly ask the next question to you you say that it's about building coalitions
It is but there are some coalitions that people don't want to be a part of these too closely associate
Those who make remarks that could be considered dubious and I'll give you an example
We know that Lewis Farrakhan
Was was a big supporter of Jesse Jackson in 1984 Jesse Jackson the late
Go ahead and say things you don't
Donald Trump, Ted Nigent, and Mitt Romney, and then Donald Trump.
And they had to not just disavow, but move away from these divisive characters.
And you know, of course, former President Obama and Jeremiah Wright, he had to make
a very clear message.
Do you wish you could be a little more clear?
Would you be a little more clear about trying to tell people that you don't agree in Robert
Stamp like you say Rogers does Trump?
Hassan Piker?
Well, I'll tell you this.
You raised Mike Rogers and Donald Trump.
Trump is the president of the United States. Donald Trump's policies are the reason why
you're paying so much more for gas. Donald Trump's policies are the reason why you can't
afford your groceries. Donald Trump's policies are the ones that are ignoring the war in
Iran he got us into so that he can focus more on the...
You're being criticized for not denying a Holocaust. I know.
Let's finish the point. To equate a streamer in California with the actual president of
the United States seems to me to be a bit of a false equivalency. But let me just answer
your question directly. I will take every statement on its own terms. There are many,
many things that he has said that I disagree with, that I have disavowed, whether it was
his ridiculous comments about 9-11 or his more recent comments about Jewish Americans.
I just think it's important for us to stop playing this game wherein you take a whole
individual and pretend like they are the worst thing they've ever said. I, in 2020, where
we talked about how caustic that cancel culture was. In fact, it was Republicans themselves,
the very same people who want to make this race about a streamer in California who said
exactly that.
But we have to believe in our democratic process, we have to believe that we can talk about
individual things that people have said on their own terms.
Now look, I understand that you're asking me the hard questions, but I also think it's
important to realize that the individual who I'm running against did not have the respect
to come here.
But I've spent literally years and years fighting and will continue to fight against
anti-semitism. God damn it, dude. It's just like, look, I'm not the story here. You know,
I want Abdul to win regardless. It's just so fucking annoying when-
Because like, because when he, when he says stuff like this, people, when he says stuff
like this, he's not going to get grace and charity from the people that he is seeking
grace and charity from. And the only thing it does is like it disturbs anti Zionists
because they're going to be like, what are you talking about? This dude is not an anti
Semite at all. Like, why would you throw him under the bus on this issue? It's like, if
it's something that he truly disagrees with that I've said, then yeah, of course. But
the idea that like my comments were in any way, shape or form, uh, uh, putting Jews in
a dangerous predicament or, or threatening Jews is so silly. It's so ridiculous. And
It's not, look, I don't know, I hope he wins Oakland County with this, with this assessment.
I just don't think that it's necessary.
He could have just as easily been like, I think Hassan's comments on this issue are
being misconstrued.
He spent his whole fucking career advocating against anti-Semitism.
I would never have an anti-Semite appear alongside myself on the fucking campaign trail.
You know what I mean?
Because you look bad when you say that.
I would not be supportive of Abdul El Sayed if he was aligning with anti-Semites.
If a politician was courting the interest of out and about anti-Semites that say that
Jews deserve violence or whatever they claim I've said, I would not be in support of that
candidate.
My expectation is that if you are a progressive candidate in any way shape or form, regardless
of your position on Israel, like you can be as anti-Israel as you want, but if you're
courting anti-Semites, then we're in dangerous territory.
You are not an anti-fascist at that point.
It just shows when you say, oh, well, I disavowed his comment on Jewish people.
basically saying like, you know, yeah, this guy said some anti-semitic shit. And I still
courted his interest. People are going to turn around and say, why did you court the
interest of a self-declared anti-semite? Check previous. All you need to say is other Republicans
in a Canada's cross country of neo-Nazis and their employer campaigning with neo-Nazi at
the conversation about anti-zionist with Schumer is not that fucking hard. Yeah. Anyway, it
It sucks. It is what it is.
I think it's a miscalculation. You know what I mean? I think it's a miscalculation. I
don't even care that he's like throwing me under the bus. I care a lot more about, I
care a lot more about the fact that he is like willing to entertain the delusional narrative
that was advanced by the media
well also simultaneously still defending me which is ironic
yet especially looking at the situation with ed sheeran
especially looking at the situation with ed sheeran it's like
like this is we don't need to do this we don't need we can push back you know
that we can show solidarity we could push back on
on hurtful uh... narratives that are defamatory their slander is
that are libelist that are bullshit most people understand it at this point
is this good for a socialist having a not socialist we support cookar asked i
am unclear if this is good or not i mean
it could not be it could not be known people with our without our convictions
without uh... would drop us will be stand for i mean it doesn't matter we need a
broad coalition
and i'll do is a part of that now
we look like i don't question his integrity challenges that we face
i'm not even i'm not questioning his integrity i'm not questioning his
advocacy here, but I do think it's a miscalculation because I think it teaches the wrong lesson
to cynical actors here that as long as they pick and prod over and over again, on the
one hand, he'll still say like, I'm not disavowing Hasan entirely, but I do disavow his comments.
Okay, but it's not a real, it wasn't a truthful comment that they are demanding you disavow.
And it makes you kind of look bad if you're doing that, not from like a, from the perspective
of a designer, from the perspective of people who will go, okay, so you admit that this
guy said something deeply anti-Semitic and hurtful to Jews, and yet you had welcomed
him.
Why won't you apologize for that?
Now that's the next stage.
And that is what will come for the record.
Tomorrow, that clip will circulate, there will be another round of think pieces, and
people will basically say, Abdul still refuses to condemn Hasan Piker, the person, but is
admitting that a Sompiker, the person, has said something deeply violent and
anti-Semitic about Jews. Why won't he disavow? And it will only
breathe fire into it. Anyway, the rest of the stuff is gonna be really good, so it
doesn't matter.
They say, you know what, you really are America first.
You don't want to send my tax dollars abroad
to fund the worst things.
We could keep that here at home.
They tell me, you really want me to have health care.
I really want you to have health care.
They tell me we're sick and tired of watching
corporate politicians bought and sold
to do the bidding of those corporations
when they get to office.
So we're building a very strong and very robust
community of independents and Republicans
who are voting for this campaign.
But at the end of the day, I want to speak.
He just wrapped up every day as a member of the working on next cycle.
He kicked the ladder down to at least 10 years.
What does he know?
That's not serious.
The question ultimately is, can you afford your life?
Can you afford the things you have to?
No, because eventually it's going to come to a point where our movement is
sizable enough and large enough that DSA affiliates are going to be asked this
question, like, why do you guys say the things you say about Israel?
Why do you guys align with the Sompire and they're going to, like, if they were
to ask Chris Rabe this question or Melo Kiro's this question or Dottie Aliza this question
right now they wouldn't answer this way they would say he's not anti-semitic if he was
anti-semitic we wouldn't fuck with him do you know what I mean so you guys are you guys
are wrong on that front that's that is a difference if you think that's how our politics ought
to run and if you think you're not the one paying for it then go ahead and vote for Mike
Rogers but if you want politics of the people by the people and for the people I've never
taken a dime from those corporations, and I never will.
And I am really serious about trying to take on the affordability crisis that you face.
I want to hit you with two questions that we think are really important that people
don't think as well.
You talk about healthcare for all, Medicare for all.
That notion is attractive when you talk about all those people who need it.
But what about the people who have private health insurance right now who worry about
what they're going to, how they're going to have to pay for this now in their taxes?
We say put money back in the pockets as one of your slogans.
But how do you do that when you're having to raise taxes to pay for Medicare?
Medicare for All is not about what it takes away.
It's about what it offers.
Even if you're privately insured right now.
Let me just talk to the middle voter here.
The median income in Michigan is $72,000 a year.
The median deductible, which is the money you have to pay to get the health insurance
you thought you already paid for, every single paycheck that comes right off the top, that's
$4,500.
So if you're doing the math, you're losing a whole paycheck to get the health care you
thought you paid for, every single paycheck.
Let's see if you're privately insured.
I want you to imagine what would happen if you had another card next to your private
insurance card, a Medicare card.
You got it the day you were born.
It does not expire until you expire, God willing, at 120 years of life, peacefully innocent.
It's zero copay, zero deductible, zero premium.
It doesn't have a network, so they don't tell you what doctor you can see or can't see,
and you don't have to worry about what happens if you lose your job, turn 26, get married,
get divorced.
the security Medicare for all could offer. I think all of us who've ever had to use
our insurance understand just how insecure it really is. Just how much you have to be
thinking about the finances just because you got sick. It shouldn't be the case in the
richest, most powerful country in the world. We can do this. We can't do this, though.
If the corporations keep buying and selling politicians, Mike Rogers took a million dollars
from Big Pharma. He's taken so much money from the insurance industry, taking money
from big hospitals. And so yes, he's bought off his insurance plan. I haven't actually
seen it. He wants you to pay 50 bucks every time you have to get a checkup at the doctor.
So his plan is, I guess, copays for all. Mine is healthcare, secure for everyone.
But, Dr. Elson, is this aspirational? Because if you really think about it, and I want to
ask you the question, again, you haven't been through those halls. When it comes to these
bills, how this all works, you need support from other senators for that to happen, right?
So far in the Democratic Party, you don't even have people who believe in Medicare for
How do you get things done and also put money back in people's pockets when the taxes are being raised in order to pay for
Medicare for all? Well, we pay 19 cents on the dollar for every dollar spent in our whole economy on health care right now
We are both the largest and fastest growing health care system in the world by cost and
We get what for it the insecurity
The pain the frustration of having to fight with some unnamed bureaucrat in some insurance corporation
because they're trying to nickel and dime you for the health care you already paid for.
That's what we get out of this.
So I take really seriously.
They're already doing it.
So yeah.
R&C research.
I'll go say it.
It's not just a conversation.
It's not just a conversation.
It admits he's using it for his far-left audience.
It's a conversation we have together.
I take comments on his own terms.
The reason I talk to Osana is because of the three million people who pay attention to
what he has to say.
And I know the conversation is being obfuscated by the amount of money being spent on behalf
of the corporations to tell us what we cannot have and should not fight for.
So I want to be having a conversation with the broader public about what we really want.
Yes, we really can guarantee health care in this country.
Yes, we really can do it while spending a lot less and getting a lot more if our health
care doesn't still fund tens of millions of dollars in health care CEO salaries on top
of it.
You believe you can convince other Democrats who are more moderate, centrist Democrats
and Republicans to get the job done?
I believe we can have a conversation as a society about why those voters should have
a conversation with their elected officials.
Yes, I'm really looking forward to continuing this conversation with my colleagues. I'll tell you this. I will support any
Healthcare legislation that increases healthcare coverage
Public means and does not empower healthcare corporations
But I also I'm not going to make a mistake of saying that nibbling around the edges is the best we can do
If you think that at the end of the day healthcare should be about the profits of big corporations
I'm not your guy if you believe like me that healthcare should be about
about whether or not you can see a doctor more about healing
than billing than I think I might be.
And I'll also tell you this.
Right now in the United States Senate,
there is not a Democratic doctor at all.
Never been a public health official in its history.
As you think about the challenges we face,
maybe it'd be a good idea to hire somebody
who actually understands this industry
leading on behalf of the broader public
who has not taken money from the corporations
who benefit off the system.
But when you raise those taxes,
Do you end up even kind of at that point when it looks like how much you have to pay and
how much you I mean, have you done the math and how much can you guarantee that?
As you know, I wrote a whole book on this and folks are welcome to check it out.
But let me just talk to you a little bit about the exchange.
Right now, if you look at your W-2 paycheck, okay, you get paid every two weeks or four
weeks.
First payment that goes off the top is FICA, Federal Insurance Collections Agency, that's
Uncle Sam.
And then after FICA is your health insurer, your private health insurer.
They eat before your family eats and we pay so much more than they do in other countries
for health care that isn't there for you when you need it.
Think about a deductible, think about a copay, all the money that comes out of your pocket.
It's why we have $225 billion of medical debt.
We are being nickled and dimed by corporations who exist specifically to hold our taxpayer
dollars, excuse me, our healthcare dollars and pay out as little as possible.
We can do so much better than that.
And so the amount of money that you end up paying for healthcare under Medicare for all
is substantially lower.
And I also believe that we should be taxing billionaires their wealth.
Why?
Because I care more that we provide things like childcare and healthcare and good schools
and good roads than allowing a billionaire to make their second billion.
I don't think that's a crazy idea.
And I think it's incumbent on us to be asking as a society, how is it that we invest in
the things we actually need?
And right now people need healthcare.
We're going to take a break after I'll say it and we're back on the other side of the
the break, talking about courting Jewish voters and also talking about Israel.
You're watching. Oh, here we go.
Oh God. The next, oh, here we go. The next one. Next up, more Hassan,
Piker comments from Rupraj. Oh, this is the worst case scenario for the other guy,
John Thompson or whatever his name is. You mean Mike Roger Hassan. I love you.
But please make it clear to your followers that this isn't about you.
He has two minutes to state the case, the unwashed message.
This isn't a place from to unpack your highly charged, albeit true statements,
combating your carbonization is above his pay grade. Yeah, I don't think people should
be fucking, uh, uh, Paris social about this. This is a, this is a Senate race. Okay. Get
over it. Uh, if I can get over it, you can too. My frustration here isn't about my frustration
here isn't even like, Oh, Abdul threw me under the bus or anything like that. My frustration
is that he is stepping out of landmine that will, um, make his, uh, run in the next 40
less days, more difficult. That's it. Okay? Because he's still, he's still like, of
course, I'm going to talk to Hassan, right? The problem is, the problem is now he is
positioning himself in this weird predicament where he's taking ownership over a comment
being anti-semitic when it's not, and he knows it's not. Everybody knows it's fucking
not anti-semitic, except now that he is basically admitting whether due to pressure or not,
an unforced error. Now, the question will be, why did you knowingly entertain and court
the audience of an anti-Semite? So what does he say? Oh, well, as soon as I found out that
he was anti-Semitic, I stopped courting it. Then they'll say, well, why did you continue
defending it? You should condemn him now. And then let's say he moves up the ladder,
right? He moves up the escalation ladder. Okay. And then he says, okay, well, I disavow
him and I condemn him entirely. Now he's going to have a lot of anti-design as up his ass being
like, what the fuck are you doing? You're just totally betraying your principled stance on this
because this conversation is not about me. And I think people in the media understand that,
or at least the people who are making a big fuss about this understand that this conversation
has nothing to do with me. I'm just one person who gives a fuck about my feelings at the end of the
the day. Okay? I don't have a large enough audience that like, offending my sensibilities
is going to make or break an election. Okay? What they understand, perhaps all too well,
is that this is about showcasing a progressive fighter as not a real fighter. They want to
show two people in his base, in his base of support, that have door knocked, that have
a phone bank for him, that, you know, maybe you shouldn't trust a person. Maybe you should
feel like he's insincere. That's what they're trying to do. The solution to this divisive
poisonous rhetoric is solidarity. It's to say the truth and demonstrate solidarity. Okay?
And he's still trying to do that. Ironically, no, but he's doing that while stepping on
a landmine by, obviously, a topic that's very important.
I care about your feelings, but like guys, shut the fuck up.
My feelings are utterly immaterial and utterly irrelevant.
or close on the possibility of the second state.
And we've seen this unstable equilibrium,
the violence that it's created.
We saw the attack on October 7th,
we saw the genocide that followed thereafter.
I believe deeply that every child in the Holy Land,
Palestinian or Jewish, deserves to grow up
without worrying about whether or not
their life is gonna be upended by war or apartheid,
or genocide or terrorism.
So I think as a country,
We need to be serious about our responsibilities.
And let's step back for a second.
Those billions of dollars that they send abroad to drop bombs on other people's kids,
those billions of dollars ought to be spent to make Detroit Public Schools whole, to build
our roads and bridges, to provide us health care.
The same people who talk about America first are perfectly fine sending our taxpayer dollars
to foreign governments.
And it's not just Israel that I believe we should not be funding unconditionally.
It's Egypt where my family immigrated from.
It's Pakistan, it's Saudi Arabia.
They should not be getting unconditional military aid.
And I just think I pay my taxes, you pay your taxes,
to provide healthcare, to make sure our schools are good,
to invest in roads and bridges.
We don't do it so a foreign government gets a bomber take.
I don't think that's a particularly crazy idea,
particularly when you think about what's been done
with our money.
And that's not about being opposed to anybody.
When it comes to the well-being,
the safety of the Jewish community here in Michigan,
I believe in that safety the same way
I believe in the safety of my own daughters.
but it's about believing in everybody's safety
and the recognition that putting more money into militaries out in the world
increases the probability that people lose their safety rather than
having that safety protected whether it's a child in detroit going to an
underfunded public school
or it's a child in gaza worried about bombs
let's talk about israel's
uh... right to exist as a jewish state
your thoughts on that it's an important topic in one of a lot of people
ask about of course we know that i don't know
i hope he doesn't let him take on this
of israel
as its own Jewish state.
Do you believe that America should continue
its recognition of Israel as a Jewish state?
Yeah, I'd love to hear what Mike has to say about this.
I'd love to ask why he went to four APAC fundraisers
in a single day after asking APAC not to support his campaign.
I'd love to understand what his perspective is.
The mic dangling up the table.
I believe in equal rights to peace,
dignity, and self-determination for Palestinians
and Jewish Israelis alike.
I think it's really important for us to ask right now whether or not we think our responsibility
is to impose a plan on other people or to enable a free Palestinian people and a free
Jewish Israeli people to come together to decide how they're going to engage on this
question.
People ask this question about the right of the state that actually exists to exist, but
I never get asked about the right of the state that does not exist to exist.
I don't get asked about whether or not the state that exists has a right to use our
tax dollars to do heinous things.
I don't get asked about whether or not the kids in Detroit have a right to their tax
dollars.
So I just think the premise of the question is built around trying to ask people to agree
to the current status quo that we have seen become a deeply unstable, deeply violent equilibrium.
And I'm a lot more interested in thinking about the future state where you have equal
rights to peace, dignity and self-determination for Palestinian and Jewish Israeli people
alike.
And I just want to say this.
It's really important to me that we understand that this is more about process than it is
about outcome. If free Palestinian people and free Jewish Israeli people come together
and decide that they want two states for two people, I'm for it. If they decide they want
one state for two people, I'm for that. If they decide that they want 23 states as has
been talked about or land for all, I'm for that. But I'm not for as a senator from Michigan
sending my tax dollars abroad to drop bombs on other people when they could be used here
to do the right things here.
Bring up 2.8 billion that Trump sent of American tax dollars today.
Those problems are a lot worse.
bring up two point eight billion the trump said today
wanna get to one of our tax questions right now this is actually from a
libertarian
u.s. senate candidate who texted us
uh... and she's asking what are your plans
to tackle prison overcrowding and homelessness two issues that plague
our community right here at home well i appreciate the libertarian candidate
has now participated more than the republican candidate has in this
debate
now look i think it's really important for us to to be thoughtful about how we
solve these big society wide problems
On the one hand, I think it's important to recognize that when it comes to housing, housing
is a housing problem.
We have to build more housing.
I actually think that the housing bill that just recently passed into law is a really
great first step.
I think there's a lot more we need to do around protecting the rights of renters through a
renter bill of rights.
And I think there's more we need to do about making sure that big tech that has enabled
people with excess money to buy housing in our communities have to pay their fair share
to building the housing we need.
We do that, and we actually have the opportunity to start solving our housing crisis.
When it comes to prison overcrowding, I think it's really important for us to realize that
the answer that we've had right now around private prisons has been extremely dangerous
for everybody.
I don't believe that you should be able to make money in this country as a contractor
selling prison outcomes.
I believe that we need to use that resource, and it has to be fully public, and when we
use that resource, we have to recognize that it has to be a public resource.
I believe that it's really important to answer public safety problems with the things that
we need, that sometimes is going to be a person with a gun.
And if that is, it's going to be somebody ideally from the local community because we've invested
in the kind of recruitment, retention and retirement we need.
But we also need to be investing in things like community violence intervention, things
like behavioral health response when somebody is having a mental health crisis, things that
the Trump administration has defunded.
And so I am for public safety.
Everybody deserves to get home safely at night.
But the challenge right now is that the Trump administration is leaving us less safe by
taking away the kinds of things that actually can help to keep folks safe in the first place.
Before we get to our audience question, I want to ask you a question about President Trump.
When it comes to working with him, how do you plan on working with somebody who is a
personality, a political party that you just don't line with?
Would you be able to sit in the room with President Trump and have an honest conversation
without trading bars?
He's gonna be okay.
The Republicans still have nothing.
I know, but it doesn't matter.
anybody to get a job done. I don't have to like them, I don't have to agree with them
on most things. But if there's a place where we can agree and we can get things done, I
will be right there to try and get things done. My job is to get things done for folks
in the state. But here's what I'm not going to do. I'm not going to sell short my own
values. I'm not going to be a sock puppet for Donald Trump. That's exactly what Mike
Rogers would do. I'd love to hear why he's underwriting this tariff war that's forcing
us to pay $5,619 a year in this state. I'd love to hear what his commentary is about
this war in Iran that we can't get out of, that we're paying for both through our tax
standards and the after-court.
Yeah, Republicans have nothing, so centrist will pick up the mantle to consistently attack
Abdul Al-Sahed.
Because he understands that he's between a rock and a hard place. We all know that Donald
Trump's tariff war is a vanity war. We all know that this Iran war was a ridiculous idea
for Donald Trump.
Republicans are playing both of the attack ads. The attack on the Islamic State is the
the one that dropped after the primar originally went away but it's back now.
Do you think that it was a good idea for Governor Whitmer not once not twice but three times
to go to the White House, work with someone she's politically and diametrically opposed
to to get the work done?
Well look, you know she had her reasons for going and I understand in public service that
you don't really second guess the choices that somebody makes.
She had clear goals and when it came to her goals she was able to achieve them.
Like I said he is the President of the United States and if there's an opportunity to serve
our state, I will talk to him and engage with him. And so, you know, it's not my
place to judge Governor Whitmer and the choices she's made because I know that
she was serving in good faith to try and secure key resources for
Michiganders. But it is my job to remind folks that we have clear policy goals. If
he wants to work with me on my policy goals, I'm all ears. If he thinks he's
going to try to bend me to his policy goals, that's a different story. That's
That's what Mike Rogers will be interested in doing.
Well, Kayla has a question here on the pulse
of a member of our studio audience.
Kayla, thanks for being here today.
Go ahead.
Thank you for showing up.
I did want to ask, since you were mentioning gas prices,
do you have any plan to alleviate gas prices?
The simplest and most obvious is we
should stop fighting a war in Iran.
We should not be fighting in the first place.
A big reason that our gas prices are so expensive
is because this war has had one really big outcome.
It's taught the Iranian regime that they have a chokehold on this place in the world that we hadn't heard of seven months ago, most of us, the Strait of Hormuz.
Every single general, every single one, could have told you that if we got into war with Iran, that was going to be the weak point, and we don't have a plan to get out of it.
But even beyond that, you know, you think about what is driving the price of gas.
Too often, you have a few corporations that dominate every single part of our economy,
and they're able to, in effect, have an oligopoly against us.
And when they have an oligopoly, they can collude around what those prices look like,
and we always end up paying more.
What's also interesting is, we end up working in different industries, and so when you have
consolidation at the very top of any industry, if you work in that industry, they can collude
to suppress your wage.
It's why we can't seem to keep up with any of the skyrocketing prices.
our prices go up and our paychecks stay stagnant and we end up having to pay more for less.
Dr. Al-Sahed, I want to follow up with the gas prices here for a moment because the reason
we have those high gas prices is because as you say the Strait of Hormuz and the continuing
conflict in the war in Iran.
Do you believe that Iran should have been left alone and do you believe that they actually
do pose a nuclear threat to the world as they continue to develop and enrich uranium on
their land?
It's a pretty crazy thing because if you rewind back to the end of the Obama administration,
we had had a peace deal that secured Iran from ever having a nuclear weapon without
any war.
One talking about Jewish people, Michigan Shatter literally during every single ad break on
all major TV networks, they rotate two ads, one with your 9-11 clip and one with you talking
about Jewish people.
It's bad.
Wait, really?
I haven't seen the ad with me talking about Jewish people.
What the fuck?
God, that is so fucking nasty and so desperate.
I haven't seen that.
I haven't seen that second ad.
Yes, this is a one person debate
because Mike Rogers didn't show up.
There's so many different ads with me featured in them.
I
Confirm was at the bar and saw you on the TV as an obdul attack ad followed by a pro obdulad
Yes, that's why obdul said what he said yeah, it's still fucking bullshit though
And then they're gonna say you're courting an anti-semite you understand
The problem is they're gonna turn around and say why did you court an anti-Semite then the Donald Trump's choices around this war have made us less safe
When it comes to the risk of nuclear proliferation proliferation and that is a problem
No, because we were out of steady state and he made us less safe. We should never have gone to that war
It was illegal. It was immoral and it was wrong. Well, they're now do you finish the job and make sure that Iran doesn't get nukes?
I think the best single thing we can do is try to play back for where we were at the JCPOA
They were open to an agreement. They had made an agreement
They were abiding by their agreement and he tore it up because he was not
Look, you talk a lot about the packs and the super packs
What you know dumb ass is Kai's barking and the UPS guy got scared questions that have been asked of us
To make sure that we ask you and I think it is important
There have been some folks who actually have gotten money from PACs, fighting from Michigan.
We understand there's a gentleman who has contributed to that PAC, I think, to your
campaign, $250,000.
And one of the things that that gentleman does is make sure that he collects medical
debt.
And you've gone on the record to say that it's a shame that people have to go and pay
off their medical debt.
I'm just going to stop you there.
That's actually not true.
That's not true.
That's a guy with the same name.
The same.
The guy with the same name.
it was corrected, you should go check the record.
Well, check the record, but what about all of you?
And I'll just say this, look, what about the PACs though?
Are there any PACs where you're taking money currently?
That is a super PAC, I do not engage with them at all.
And I have told everyone, I am not interested in receiving
a dime from a corporation to fund any campaign.
I wanna talk about this though, right?
Because the guy who is supposed to be here,
who is running as a Republican, Mike Rogers,
he is a wash in corporate money.
Oh wash, he took $5 million from corporations,
a million alone from prescription drone companies.
You wanna talk about corporate corruption of our politics.
When he had the opportunity to actually step up
and take on the corporate corruption,
he voted against it every single time.
When you talk about where we go from here,
I have never ever solicited a dime
from a corporation to run a campaign.
My guy, $5 million, and we don't even know
about the full amount of money he's taken
into the super PACs from shady corporate PACs
that he has a benefit from in this race alone.
And there's a reason he's not here,
because he thinks he can buy your vote in 30 second ads
brought to you by the corporations,
who he's gonna turn around and do the bidding for
in ways that are going to rig the system against you.
You will pay for it.
DTE, $64,000, they've given him, $64,000.
So ask yourself, why you don't have public pressure
from DTE?
Well, it's because DTE gives to 93% of the state legislature,
they gave to him when he was in the state legislature,
and they give to a number of, of, of, of, of,
federal representatives too.
With which he caved on to him,
he has no reflection on how steadfast he will stand
on the actual issues,
or even if this is not a good sign,
that this is a good sign on the strength of those issues.
You are right, this is not about you.
You turn money that you make up for organizations.
He still, he still delivered a much, much better,
much stronger response on, on the Israel question.
And that's what I, what I care about.
Plus it's not like, it's not like he fucking,
Dude, he's doing this thing where he won't condemn me, but he will condemn ridiculous statements that are outright lies, right?
Like a statement that I did not make he is condemning
That puts him in a in a unique predicament. Yeah, look
He says he has room for people like us on it. Once again, I'll blow say won't outright condemn us on
Yes, he says he has room for a son politics
He wants people to think Americans are not 11 the rapes happening on terms of anything matters
is a self-proclaimed terrorist sympathizer. You are who your friends are. Like, do you see what I mean?
Like, it just puts them in a weird predicament because those things are lies, right?
Like, if they were true, Abdul would not be fucking aligning with someone like myself. I,
as a progressive as a socialist as as an anti-fascist would not align with a
politician that courts anti-Semites that engages in anti-Semites and engages any
kind of bigotry I simply would not do that okay I wouldn't do that let alone
Abdul doing that that's the problem the problem is you just set yourself up
and that's his vision you're setting yourself up for them to now say well
Well you also openly say that this guy is fucking anti-Semitic.
Who can sort of ush a second lady as an Indian woman who came to this country.
So I think there is diversity amongst that party.
I think the bottom line is you're saying there have been aspersions that have been made and
that that's something that you obviously take issue with as you should.
Kayla has a question, Dr. Alsayad.
What will you do to ensure teachers earn enough to survive?
Because certainly right now that is very much a crisis within that profession.
Kayla, thank you so much for asking this question.
I believe in public schools.
I was in a beneficiary of incredible public schools
and we are underfunding our public schools.
We are asking teachers, not just to be teachers,
we're asking them to be nurses and janitors
and social workers and mental health professionals.
We're asking them to do so much
because we have not funded what they need
and what they deserve.
I believe in a minimum wage for teachers.
I believe in teacher tenure.
I believe in investing in the paraprofessionals
that allow teachers to be teachers
and making sure that our kids have everything
that they need to be able to be the learners that they need to be in our schools.
I believe in funding the places that they work so that they don't look like they did
30 years ago.
I believe in what it means to empower our teachers to be the professionals.
And so we need more funding.
Unlike Donald Trump and Mike Rogers who want to defund the Department of Education, I want
to make sure that we're funding it.
And I want to make sure that we're tying funding for the Department of Education to the Department
of Defense.
So if you want to give more money to war, you're going to give more money to schools
Thank you.
All right, Dr. Ellis said we have a question from one of our members of the studio audience,
Charmaine.
Thanks for being here today.
Thank you for having me.
Hello, Dr. Assay.
I'm a registered nurse, so my question is going to be about Senate Bill 1709, which will
establish direct care to registered nurse patient staffing ratio requirements in hospitals.
So I want to ask you, how will you work across the aisle to break through the Republic and
hold out senators who are opposing this bill?
you and thank you. I have walked more picket lines with nurses who are standing up to the
power of the big hospitals that are suppressing their wages in the last year than ever before.
And part of that is because of the power of those corporations to buy each other up because
of the kind of public policies that Mike Rogers supports and the money that they paid him
to look the other way. So I'm looking forward to working alongside anyone and everyone who's
willing to establish safe staffing ratios and what I'll tell you is this, no matter
where you live, no matter what state you're in, you rely on nurses because you rely on
healthcare and if those nurses are in a situation where they are staffed unsafely, meaning you
go from a ratio of say one nurse to every four patients to now one nurse for every eight
patients, what happens when two of those patients crash?
It becomes unsafe for everybody involved and so I think this is just simply about making
sure that patients are safe in their hospitals, that the work of nurses who do the healthcare
for all of us is dignified, and that we stand up to the power of the corporations who are
telling us that this is just fine, thank you, only to fine on the back end that it's made
all of us less safe.
Thank you, Sharman, for your question.
We have another text question as well, and it is from another one of our Fox two viewers
that's just coming in.
There it goes.
How will you protect Michigan communities from data centers?
Center is obviously a huge topic that has hands from the federal's federal government
all the way down to the local government.
What would you do?
You know, I'll tell you what, the first thing I would do is not benefit personally from
owning stock in data center corporations.
Mike Rogers, up to $2.6 million personally invested in corporations that would benefit
from data centers.
So maybe you start with just not making money off of them in the first place.
But second, I've been very clear that we need a terms of engagement.
It is absolutely necessary at the federal level that we pass public policy that does
the following things.
Number one, if it's going to make jobs, they better be good union jobs.
Number two, you cannot raise our utility rates.
Number three, you have to take some of the revenue that's created and improve our reliability
because here in Michigan we lose power every time the wind basically blows.
Number four, you cannot touch our water at all.
And number five, you have to have a good faith, well-negotiated community benefits agreement.
One of these shady backroom situations where you put local officials under non-disclosure
agreements where they can't talk about it, it has to be public.
And finally, all of this needs to be fully enforceable via fees, fines, and the ability
to shut you down.
I believe that that needs to be federal policy.
And until we get that policy, I believe that we need local and state moratoriums to protect
people.
This cannot continue to be a race to the bottom, while the richest people in society make robots
that could ultimately end humanity as they're now talking about, while the rest of us have
to deal with these hulking data centers in our backyard, raising our utility rates, and
destroying our water.
We can do better.
It means regulation.
And we've needed that regulation yesterday, so the best we can do is have it tomorrow.
Finally, we need people who aren't bought off by the corporations who are benefiting
from this.
And again, it really just goes back to that point.
Money out of politics means we should not have corporations buying and selling politicians
in ways that get them to look the other way, which is exactly what Mike Rogers would do.
I wish he was here to talk about it.
I would.
Mike Rogers did say that he does believe in a moratorium.
Yeah, yeah.
Mike Rogers said he believes in a moratorium for one year at the state level.
He's running to be a US senator and he fully understands that there is no possibility for
him to actually enact that.
So it's a dodge of a question.
And he said that after he was asked at one of a few press conferences he did by a journalist,
had no answer.
And then the next day they realized that they had to say something.
So he said, oh, I think I want a one year moratorium.
My question to you is like, why haven't you divested yourself from the corporations who
benefit from the data centers they're building right now.
How much of an uphill battle is this when you have obviously the battle with the A.I.,
the United States versus China right now, and the President, the Trump administration,
and others, even in those chambers that you want to fill, senators who say, you know what,
we got to develop this technology.
Let's find a way to move forward and not put a cap on it.
I was going to ask us, what's the point of winning this war if it's going to destroy
humanity in the first place?
Like, what's the point of winning the race if it's going to take us all out in the process?
I mean, I just want to step back for a second for folks who don't know.
One of these big hyperscaler AI companies found out that its AIs had basically built
a gang to hack a website to get the answers to a little stupid problem that they had given
it.
And they didn't even intend for this set of AIs to even get access to the internet.
They're starting to be able to act alone in ways that really ought to wake us up.
Now, look, I don't want China to beat us.
And I think the way that we answer that is to put pressure on the folks who provide compute
power.
But Donald Trump, you know what Donald Trump did?
Donald Trump basically said, no, holds barred.
You can give them all of the best computer chips and let it rip.
How does that benefit us?
The best way for us to engage is to say, look, you've got to restrict how much of that compute
power is out there to everyone involved.
And we have the ability to do that through our public policy, but nobody wants to do
it.
And nobody wants to do it is because Donald Trump has basically led us to this point where
where a lot of the rest of our economy has been slacking, but a lot of the top stocks
are these AI stocks, and he wants a good stock market going into the midterms.
So he's saying, let the whole thing rip, even if it means that you have robots now that
are hopping out of human control, where the people who are designing the robots themselves
are putting the companies and saying, yeah, I'm not doing this anymore because it could
destroy humanity.
But again, Donald Trump always puts his own interests, again, over the interests of the
rest of us and Mike Rogers, he's going to put whatever Donald Trump wants over you.
And that's the danger.
Bill, you talk about danger, obviously your opponent uses that word a lot when talking
about you.
You talk about the aspersions from a racial and ethnic background, but a lot of times
they're talking about policy, the danger of engaging with someone who may be socialist.
And I asked you here on this stage just a few months ago in July, whether you're a socialist,
you said I'm a capitalist who understands how capitalism works.
Oh my God.
about the DSA, they haven't endorsed you,
but do you have deep alignments with value
when it comes to what the DSA is?
You know, Rup, at the end of the day,
I know I'm here to answer questions,
but I, who's gonna tell you,
I'm not a part of the organization.
I don't know why you want to ask me those questions.
I'm not asking if you're a part of the support
that they give you, right?
Let me speak to capitalism for a minute.
Capitalism is the process by which we allow supply
and demand to allocate capital.
Oh, here we go.
We make decisions on what a market will reward.
This is like Loki his worst overall take.
This is why he reminds me of Uncle Jake so much.
Oh boy.
Real capitalism hasn't been tried.
We're gonna try real capitalism, I promise.
to enable folks to build companies.
This is why he's like, he has some war and eye tendencies,
ironically enough, he's just better on American imperialism.
And I'll just finish with one last quote from the guy who coined the term capitalism Adam Smith
He said there's no market without morals and right now
We've lost our morals when people like Mike Rogers lose the shame of making 14 million dollars advising the very same corporation
The positive version of Ryan Graham. No, he doesn't do like white men are under attack
Commentary although I love Ryan the presidency. We've lost to those morals. We need morals back in our government
Ryan would never pay for a member of the essay to be able to believe that any sentiment that
I've expressed that would be a remotely anti-Semitic.
He would never cave on that.
Now, I'm not your guy.
If you're somebody who looks at your grocery prices and says, yep, that's fair, or looks
at your gas prices and be like, yeah, that's perfectly okay, I'm not your guy.
But you know what I'm dangerous for?
If I'm dangerous for anything, I'm dangerous to the current system that allows big corporations
to keep picking your pocket because they buy off your politicians.
And I think we need a senator who's willing to step up to those corporations right about
now or at least show up and answer your questions.
What's the first thing you do when you get into office should you become a senator here
in the U.S. Senate and what would that be in about 20 seconds?
Work to get money out of politics to end Citizens United.
Corporations are not people.
Their money is not speech.
They should not be able to buy politicians.
We need to end that.
And then it's working to pass the Pro Act to make sure that we can organize unions every
sector of American life and finally getting Medicare for all done so we can get people
from the risk.
Thank you for your time here tonight.
We thank you for joining us here.
to thank you for joining us on this special edition of the Paul State Tube here on Fox
Local. We're taking you inside this room. He's not, he's not a socialist. What do you
expect? No, I know, I just, I still can have disagree, deep disagreements with him on that.
You know, capitalism has outlived its usefulness. It was certainly a better system than the
previous formation than feudalism. Yeah, that was overall very good debate performance,
even though it wasn't a fucking debate, obviously. It's a nationally plus eight Democrat-favored
environment. Who won? The guy who showed up, I think he won, and not the limp dick microphone
of Mike Rogers. But the problem is like, he has good lines that he can put out there.
Like I said, I think like his weakest moment was the, yeah, I condemned Hassan's statement
about Jews. That was it. I remember you clearly said, Abdul El Sayed is the limit of what
will actively campaign for and support. I find that a good line to draw. I mean, honestly,
next election cycle, that won't be enough either. It's just for the current timeline, that makes sense.
For the current timeline, it makes sense. I mean, he's an anti-Zionist. He's
He's a great advocate. He's a Bernie Krat. I believe him. He's a fighter.
He's good for Senate. He's good for statewide office in a state like Michigan.
I don't think we'll need to align with people who call themselves out and about capitalists
by the next election cycle. And I also don't think Abdul El Sayed is an enemy.
He's not a class enemy. He's not someone who is expressly anti-communist expressly anti-socialist
That's also important
But yeah, he's um
Fuck this dude is fucking rap bro chill out dude, what the fuck Jesus Christ you guys are being absolutely insane and being
Parasocial and cringe. Okay, please calm the fuck down
It's an insane statement to make.
He's good.
I would not be supportive of obdur- What is the clip from Hank Pecker from literally
a second ago?
You're just sending me tiktoks from earlier in the stream.
Do you think he's smarter than these solo debates?
I think Rupraj was fair.
I mean, he was definitely contentious.
He definitely laid it on way harder, including in one instance like revealing a statement
uh... or or
uh... revealing a line that wasn't even correct
is this the reaction room
the link will take you to our zoom room
and you just hold it right there we're going to try to take as many callers as
possible during
these live pictures
uh... because we want to hear from you and i know last time we did this with
the other group group rogers literally quoted my group rogers action not just
The Roop Rogers is funny literally quoted Mike Rogers in defense of Mike Rogers. Yeah, so a lot of people watching even nationwide
I do want to bring these are people I'd love to have the luxury of disagreeing with in a future where the world is an ending
Yeah to talk about the Hassan Piker relationship, of course, they're farming that you say it's not about that
It's about these other things but apparently it is about this too, right?
It can be about more than one thing two things can be true people care about everything
told you he had a he had an overall banger performance but they'll hit him on this over
and over again now asking this can you completely 100% disavow offensive comments made by Hassan
piker absolutely look I take comments on their own terms and when Hassan made these comments
about about Jewish Americans and Jewish Michiganders I disavowed them entirely but I do want to
ask us a question what is democracy for democracy is about addressing our differences this
Is it news? No, the news part of it is him saying that him acknowledging that what I said about Jewish
Michiganders is actually dangerous or whatever.
If you're thinking smaller, what is something directly related to health and wellness that you would support that's currently in the Senate?
You know, one of the things we can immediately do is ban pharmacy benefit managers.
They're like the ultimate middleman between you, your insurance company, and...
What comments are they talking about?
It's the one that they made a big media shitstorm around, where I said,
Israel makes Jews less safe, Jews are not monolithic,
and the idea that, like, organizations present Jews as a monolithic entity that's singularly invested in Israel
is making, is endangering Jews.
It's not only untrue, but it's also, you know, threatening Jewish safety, which is crazy because
I'm certain that Abdul has said something similar in the past.
Virtually every fucking person that criticized me and said, Hasan is threatening Jews, literally
personally have said that those exact same things.
That's not about Michigan or Jews.
Oh, no, that's like, that's what he's talking about.
that's what the statement was. He dismissed the comments but he did not call you anti-semitic.
I know but he's saying he disavowed the comments then people are going to be like what did
you disavow about them? Don't you feel like those comments are anti-semitic? Like if you
agree that those comments are anti-semitic, why did you have an anti-semite on your campaign?
If you legitimize the false framing that your opposition is concocting in this circumstance,
you're presenting additional opportunities for them to attack you. You're presenting
additional points that they can needle in. It's the worst thing that Zoran did in the
campaign run. Literally the worst thing he did. First, he responded to the Globalized
Intifada statement with the truth, and then they kept hammering him over and over again,
bashing him over the head with Intifada, Intifada, Intifada, to which he eventually
fucking caved on. That was a moment of weakness from him that they pounced on, and they haven't
stopped needling him since. We know you're a stand-up guy, and we trust you, but I think
a lot of people are disappointed in him since it's just untruthful. It's dishonest, hard
to come to terms with him trusting on everything. I think most people don't give a shit about
Let's be real. I think at most they will see it as as as
Caving to the framing of of pro-Israel the pro-Israel crowd and they will see that as like
Potentially a question for you. Obviously the elephant in the room tonight or lack there
I was not in the room
Elephant elephant decided that they did not want to be in the room the elephant
Coward it out although the elephants were all in the room in Dallas
It's wild to me that this guy is more interested in going to speak for what six minutes and 48 seconds
in Dallas than he is to have 60 minutes with Michiganders here in Detroit, but it tells
you who he is.
He's a coward and he knows that the minute that he and I actually have to have to share
the same stage and share podiums, he's not going to have much to say.
How many people do you think will not vote for AES or Associations here feel like it
can't be that many?
So really his answer doesn't really affect me the way you know.
The only one really hurt is you.
I wouldn't debate me either.
But here he is because...
Well, the only one really hurt here is not just me.
If I am being propped up as a representative of the socialist movement in the country as
a media figure as a platform to elevate socialists, then someone who is aligned with at least
one element, let's say anti-imperialism of said platform, turning around and saying,
this guy's said condemnable things like not 9-11, that's understandable.
That's, you know, go off.
I've condemned it myself.
He's also repeatedly said, Hassan disavowed those comments like he knows that he doesn't
agree with those comments himself. But when you lean into that framing, instead of future
proofing this movement and growing this movement, you're basically saying like, whatever, this
is discardable. This is one element that's discardable.
I wish you'd just only kept it to the 9-11 element.
This is the thing that these people don't like respect democracy and respect us
They don't respect you the viewer the only thing that they care about is
Being able to get an office so that you can corrupt the office and make money off it off the back end
It is all like a boom-dawgle for him. It always has been
And then what was it like to participate in a debate?
This is obviously very unique to see another podium just kind of with a mic hanging off the edge
I mean, this is the thing right like Rup and I had a vigorous conversation
He didn't shy away from harder questions.
He didn't shy away from follow-ups.
Rup is a serious journalist.
I'm a serious candidate.
There is one person participating in this entire thing,
or not participating in this whole thing,
who is decidedly unserious about all of it.
And that's Mike Rogers.
So.
Do you feel increased pressure to deliver for Democrats,
given that this race is going to be pretty critical
for control of the Senate?
My pressure is to deliver for Michiganders.
That's the pressure.
Good answer.
To show up every day at the US Senate.
Good answer.
To actually do the things we need done.
money out of politics, money in your pocket, pass Medicare for all, that's always been
the pressure. And I take very seriously the need to make it a little bit easier for folks
who are struggling right now under the pressure of having to pay $5,600 for tariff wars, they
have no control over having to get raked over the coals at the gas pump or for groceries.
That's where I feel pressure.
If the Democrats do regain control of Congress, what are some of the things that Donald Trump
was done in his second term that you would seek to reverse?
I mean, all of the one big ugly bill, all of the douche cuts
that left us, many, many Michiganders stuck on toilets
for a very long time because people
had to eat like pool lettuce.
The fact that he's not willing to talk about the real danger
of data centers or AI at all, you know, his ICE policies that are devastating people.
I can't bring back the people who ICE killed, but man, I wish I could.
Is the tariff policies a bigger issue in Michigan and, you know, the-
And you beat me to it.
Yeah.
I mean, we pay $5,600 a year, 55% more than other states.
And those tariff policies are not just costing us, they're costing jobs.
And so reversing that immediately is absolutely critical.
And it's probably not legal what he's doing, it's just that the courts haven't had time
to actually catch up with it.
And this thing that Donald Trump does, he does things that he knows are illegal, but
he knows that the court system can't catch up fast enough.
And so he gets to get away with it for a period of time.
And it's dangerous to all of us.
All of us gotta pay.
You know, the first tariff regime, you know who's gonna get paid back?
Corporations.
You know who the rest of us are gonna have to do?
Swallow it.
That's always the case with Donald Trump.
Basically, all the attack ads against you
are saying that you're not like everybody else in Michigan?
I'm not.
I'm not like any of the other politicians.
I don't take corporate money.
I really want to get money out of politics.
I really want to guarantee you health care.
I really want to stand up to corporations.
I'm not like him.
He's absolutely right.
I'm not like him.
I'm not corrupted.
I'm not cowardly.
I'm not beholden to Donald Trump.
I'm not beholden to corporations.
I'm very unlike Mike Rogers.
He's right.
Are those attacks xenophobic?
and how do you...
You know, at the end of the day,
that's for somebody else to answer.
You know, I don't engage in,
in, you know, armchair quarterbacking of my own campaign.
You know, they can't, it seems to me that they,
they can't ignore the red meat that's obviously there.
Their whole game is to point at me and say,
oh, he's different because,
and listen, I've been up to him.
All right, so, Mike.
And there've always been...
Michael, I just did a one-on-one interview
See this Detroit people. They're not attacking me but that I think the idea of an America that could include me and
I will always stand up for an America that's big enough for all of us
Not just me but anybody who's been told they don't belong women for a long time didn't have access to vote black folks still struggle for equality
LGBTQ folks who are told that they can't belong
Right religious minorities. I'm always gonna stand up for an America big enough for all of us
They're always going to continue to attack that America right now. I'm the boogeyman
That's the one that they want to point to but you know at the end of the day
I'm just I'm just trying to talk about gas prices and the cost of groceries and they hate it because I'm gonna keep talking about gas prices
And the cost of groceries my name is not raising your gas prices his policies are
Again this race is not about a streamer in California
This race is about gas prices and grocery prices in Michigan
And that's about Donald Trump and his sock puppet and his sock puppet couldn't come today
So
Again this campaign is about gas prices and grocery prices. They're so desperate
They're so desperate to be like dude. Come on. Say you fucked up. Say you fucked up
Just one more time we'll catch him we'll catch him off guard
look for the upcoming debates. I show up and if I were Mike Rogers right now he has already
signed up for the October 8th debate and I bet his his folks are like oh man we should have just
dodged all of them. All right it's in the name Dodgers um so Mike hey I told you we could have five.
Bro I'm gonna be honest if I was a less stubborn person if I was a less stubborn person I would
have given up by now I would have been like fuck this shit all politicians are are uh irredeemable
I'm just not gonna do this. It's not worth it. I make far too much money sitting at home
You know covering the fucking news not touching a single damn campaign
It's literally not worth it. It's just not it's never been worth it. It hasn't been worth it since day one
okay
it's not worth it to fucking fly out to all these different states and
and to
To fly out to all these different states try to galvanize folks to go out and fucking doorknock to go out and fundraise
Like it's so
It's so goddamn annoying dude. It is so fucking annoying. I mean look this is not a woe is me moment
Okay, who cares I made my decisions. I'm an adult. I'm 35 fucking years old. Okay
is so god damn annoying to just like have to tank this metric ton of bullshit
I thought you'd realize this after terby derby loss bro yes I know that was my biggest disappointment
We love to have you in Denver, I can't miss from a lot hell yeah
It was worth it to have your cock on the jumbo tron are you crazy no, it's not dude dude
These motherfuckers these demons on the Republican Party side the right wing of the Democratic Party and the media apparatus that is desperately trying to
to engage in this disciplining operation will never let you live it down, okay?
They'll be like, oh, you want to fucking, you want to roll up your sleeves and get
involved? You want to roll up your sleeves and get involved and get active and
get people fucking elected in the office? Fuck you! Dude, I am getting peppered. I
am getting ass fucked up and down the timeline. On a daily fucking basis, there
There's two ads, every fucking, uh, every ad break on Michigan television saying I'm
a fucking vicious anti-Semite saying I'm a terrorist who loves 9-Eleven.
It's fucking insane.
Anyway, I'm not gonna stop.
I am a very, very stubborn person.
That much is a promise to you, right?
I'm not going to fucking stop.
The attacks are not going to stop, but it doesn't matter.
But it is very, very frustrating.
It is annoying.
We got to know it will be worth it.
Remember how the Zoran victory party felt and how much he is doing?
It sucks, but it's an investment.
I agree. I agree. I agree.
I agree, but god damn they know how to break someone's will dude. Holy shit
They really do I
Just wish there were more I
I just, I wish that there were more people who were just like being honest about it.
I don't expect anybody to defend things that I've said to identify what the context is.
It's a contentious media cycle. It's a contentious media environment. It's a fast-paced media cycle
and it's contentious, right? You've got a very limited amount of time to make your case to as
many people as possible and you're getting attacked endlessly, right? In that situation,
your job is to plug holes. Maybe it's my autism, but the thing I can never stand, which sucks
And my position is when people just outright entertain lies, I can't stand it.
I guess so annoyed.
Yeah, the America deserve not 11 is quoted anti-Semites was never quoted.
I know that's what's so fucking annoying about it.
Let them think they can make you quit.
Fuck no.
It's on your intelligent but not opportunistic there's a solution to this all but you're
too dumb to see it what what's the solution I just become pro Israel I just sit back and
I'm like, you know, uh, I just, you should run as a candidate in the future.
They're obviously scared of you.
Okay.
You're fucking ridiculous.
That's not going to happen.
Um,
but it is, it is insane.
It is insane that I wish we could calculate exactly how many millions of
dollars have been poured into campaigns all around the country.
This election cycle on attack ads just on me.
I want to know what the total, what the, what the total number
I have caused to the Zionist lobby.
I want to know, like, we can't even calculate the earned media
because there's probably a billion dollars with the earned media at this point.
I'm sick of it dude. Just do it defend yourself live for once. What do you mean?
Defend yourself. I am defending myself and I'm not defending myself. I'm defending the truth.
Instead of clips. What does that mean?
It's got to be up there. It's got to be in the tens of millions in attack ads and then
maybe hundreds of millions in earned media as well.
At this stage it's still useful for a Canada campaign with you or has the media made you
too toxic? I think going forward I am, I mean I've already been like very picky. I've already
I've already been very picky about who I align with publicly and openly, but my mentality
is this, okay? The outcome of these midterms will determine to what degree I will participate
in this kind of stuff. But one thing I will say is this. One thing I will say is this.
I'm not going to fucking cave. I'm not going to give in to these dipshits that would love
for me to fuck off, stop covering politics, go away, play video games, stop trying to
advance socialism in some capacity.
Oh my God, they would love that shit.
So every moment that I feel as though, you know, the, the, the heat is too high.
The fire too bright.
I think about people like that.
I think about people that would be elated at the prospect of me quitting and
going away, and I let spite kick my ass into gear.
You know what I mean?
Anytime I, anytime I feel discouraged, anytime I feel like,
oh man, like, is this even fucking worth it?
I think about, I think about people who would get excited at the prospect of me quitting.
At the end of the day, however, I will say this.
Let's say one day I go away.
Okay, let's say one day I go away.
I'm like, I'm done.
I'm just gonna fucking quit too much.
If anyone on the left who thinks they will pick up the mantle will not receive the same
amount of scrutiny and heinous attack ads, and if they are to abide by a position for
the record that is explaining why Palestinians have a legal right to resist against their
military occupiers, if they are actively calling themselves a socialist, trying to get socialists
elected. If you think that a person that reaches a certain level with their advocacy, a certain
level of popularity while still maintaining their advocacy in the ways that I have, if you think
that those people won't be consistently and unjustifiably attacked in the same exact way,
Yeah, the Democratic Party is relying on a grassroots army of tens of thousands model
on anti-ice efforts on Minneapolis' establishment term steal.
They should realize that the campaign was made up of the kind of people who listened to Hassan
Piker and vehemently disagree with the party establishment in Israel and Palestine.
Early last month, more than three dozen people gathered in a conference room at former Attorney
General Eric Holder's loft in Washington, organizing the Keep, the Day Speakers Anonymous,
Then came remarks from the person who convened them.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the purpose of the August 6 gathering, was
to war game ways to protect election integrity, according to three people in knowledge of
the meeting.
Clinton gave opening remarks and then played largely an observational role as everyone
broke into two teams to run through hypothetical scenarios of potential chaos around elections
and how they'd respond.
Aside from Clinton and Holder, who was also present, attendees included legal experts,
elected officials, members of pro-democracy and labor organizations, cable news figures
and influencers.
Bearing issues, the mail-in ballots, Democrats are also readying a major push for voters
to cast their ballots early and in person. Democratic groups say they're poised to train
tens of thousands of poll-jovers, including some who are modeling training used for activists
in Minneapolis during a massive immigration enforcement presence this year.
This is, these are not people who are mobilizing from, I mean, some members in my community
might be a part of this, but I would say that isn't this the thing that, isn't this
the poll watchers thing, isn't this Brian Tyler Cohen?
I have to also keep in mind the amount of inspiration you've caused since 20 days
ago, about four months ago, every meeting both in my local chapter and national zoom
and ease. I've been in you've been mentioned at least once for why someone joined and got
involved. You've gotten 1000 people off their couches.
Spite is a great motivator, but it's good for your mental health to have positive motivation to know I'm aware of that
I am aware of that and then that is why I've been doing this quietly on
The background without much media mainstream media attention for the last fucking 10 years
And I think while the lights are awfully bright
Now that we are gaining mainstream attention and negative attention. Let's be real
We are well positioned for victory. We are well positioned to advance this cause. We are well positioned to continue pushing
So I'm not I'm not super worried about that kind of stuff. It's just it's just annoying. It's just annoying to be misunderstood
It's annoying to be lied about right nobody fucking wants that
Who would ever want that who would ever want to to have
professional media
personalities actively lie about them
them. You know, it's fucking lame. But yes, I understand that if you are to break the
backs of power, well, they're not going, they're going to fight back there. They didn't get
to that position of profound power without pushing for it, without fighting for it. Of
course, they're going to fight to preserve their, their place in society. They're going
to fight to preserve their safety and their comforts. I expect that.
Anyway, that's why I said like seeing solidarity expressed towards Macklemore from other industry
peers. That gives me a lot of confidence. That excites me. That makes me happy to see.
It's a reminder that the people are on our side and that, you know, people should never have to
feel alone in their advocacy like this. All those other artists on the Ed Sheeran tour could have
stayed silent just like Ed Sheeran was choosing to pick a side while claiming that he wasn't
picking aside, right? Those artists could have collected their paychecks, sang their songs,
and then moved on with their lives in hundreds of thousands of dollars richer, but they chose
to take a stance. That is huge. That's bold. That's courageous. So it makes me happy that people
are willing to do that. They are risking their career. They're risking their careers. And
you know, I wish that we could see more solidarity in every front, including in the media. I
which we can see the same exact solidarity expressed
Against not only media figures by other members of the media that know right from wrong that know what the fucking truth is and the same thing goes for
You know this broader political movement if you're you know a Bernie crat if you're Bernie himself
AOC Zoramum Donnie. I'm not demanding streamers to be unselfish. I don't give a fuck about streamers. Okay. I'm talking about adult shit
Okay
Oh fuck, you think I give a shit about streamers coming out in support of what I'm saying and
doing?
No, I don't expect that.
Streamers are small business owners at the end of the day.
They have their businesses to protect.
They're not going to, you know, they're not going to rock the boat.
I'm not even asking streamers to defend me.
Let's be real, I wish they would at least like,
you know, criticize Asman Gold's heinous commentary
every now and then, that would be a big start.
But even that is, you know, too much to bear,
too much of a cost to bear.
All right, let's continue.
R&C attendees reacted to Trump's $5,000 checks. Let's take a look.
About the $5,000 checks, what do you think about that announcement last night?
Okay, firstly, I'm a very logical person right now. Where is the funds first one to come
from? This is not the first time that we have heard from Trump that he's gonna give out
a bunch of money, just vote for Republicans and give out a bunch of money. Let's be real.
It's a crowd pleaser.
It's not really like a real police.
We're just saying it.
I think it's positive as long as I get some money out of it.
I'm all for a little compensation.
What do you think about the $5,000 checks?
Dude, God bless him.
He's trying to give back to us and not, you know,
our money going to everybody else but us in America, you know?
I don't agree with everything that he says, right?
Might not agree with this and that.
I'm all for that $5,000 though.
Like, that's cool because people can really use it.
I flipped through MSNBS News and what is the other, CNN.
And guess what they kept talking about?
Trump and the $5,000 deal, right?
And if nothing else, it makes people pay attention and say,
it breaks the news cycle a little bit and say,
what's he talking about?
Oh, there's an election this year?
That's what we're going after, is awareness.
When you look at what he's done to uncover the waste and fraud
that has been taking place in our country for some time,
The fact that he's been able to protect.
People are complete cattle, dude.
These people are complete cattle.
They are they are cattle mindset through and through.
I don't even know how you salvage these people.
Holy fuck, anyone who thinks Donald Trump is going to cut them a $5,000 check
after the election cycle, after the midterms is the highest stage of cattle.
Okay. Actually, it's an insult to cattle. I feel like cattle are smarter than this.
What the fuck? What about all the other checks he owes you? The fuck's going on there? You know,
it's up to like 15 grand at this point. But with the five grand added on. So where's the other 10
grand but he said you were gonna get dumbass.
Fuck's wrong with you man.
Oh my god.
Time and time again.
The easiest, the easiest to doop, the easiest to manipulate people on the fucking planet,
these guys.
Holy shit.
That should come up with a $5,000 dividend.
Not surprising.
I wouldn't be surprised if it happens and again it's right in line with me, the type of president he is.
We've got to talk about this boy shall peace in these
Prime Minister, did you hear about Israeli officials vowed to strip NASA directors of
their citizenship?
Jesus Christ.
A new one that will protect you from the cold?
I heard about it and it's amazing.
You know, we are fighting in the global anti-aircraft weapon.
But it's just a matter of time.
It's just a matter of time.
And now, two Israeli soldiers are fighting in the cold
and are celebrating the Venice Festival.
The winner of the vile film, Naza.
The film Naza has not yet been released in full, however based on what we see in the
promotional material it presents a series of serious and false allegations, yeah.
Is blood liable dude.
We got to talk about this bombshell piece in the Israeli newspaper Harats.
Now, a lot of people have been focusing on the headline revealed Netanyahu received
an explicit warning days before October the 7th.
He didn't brief Israel's security chiefs.
It's a huge deal.
Apparently, the president of the UAE, Mohammed bin Zayed, called the prime minister of Israel
and told him to be ready for a, quote, major event from Hamas.
And Netanyahu did nothing, which has led to even people like former US Secretary of State
Hillary Clinton, suggesting maybe Netanyahu let the October 7th attacks happen.
Netanyahu had been literally called by, you know, Sheikh Mohammed M.B.Z. from UAE and
warned that Hamas was planning something.
And either he didn't...
Damn, 1.4 million views four days ago, nice.
Or he, it's horrible to say, he wanted to see what they could plan so that then he could
come down hard.
But for me, the really devastating and revealing
and important part of the story is not the bit everyone
is focused on about the MBZ call and the BB in action.
It's further down in the story.
It's where Haaretz also confirms that Hamas
was ready to release all the civilian hostages,
not weeks or months later, but on October the 7th itself.
At 7 p.m., on October the 7th,
the Prime Minister of Qatar called the head of the Mossad
and told him, I explicitly threatened Hamas,
that if all civilian hostages are not released immediately,
I will personally order their expulsion from Qatar.
I would like to inform you that Hamas is ready to release all civilians now, and we are prepared to mediate.
It's crazy because we've known about this for three years.
Like, the media does this thing where they'll be like, wow, look at this bombshell revelation.
And what they're reporting on is something that we fucking knew about three years ago.
Mike, I just spoke to Fox two on their zoom. Oh shit. What did you say?
Let's see if they let's see if it gets pulled up. Fuck. Where's the does anyone have the link for
Fox too. I want to see. Yeah, I saw Kyle Kuzma and Ennis Conta are both attacking Zoran
and I, or wait, no, never mind. It's just Ennis Conta is turning or Kyle Kuzma is turning
in the NS contact.
Where is the Foxcast?
I can't find it.
Where is the YouTube?
Yeah, bro, look at the date.
Look at the people.
What are you talking about right now?
Peep the date on this.
Israel knew about October 7 and ignored the signs December 2nd, 2020, and it's been in
the news.
Look at the date. Look at the people. They're talking about right now people date on this
Israel knew about October 7 and ignored the signs
December 2nd 2023
Go back a few minutes
Yeah
She is an audience member who was joining in the studio, listening to the entire US Senate
debate, which really is.
Is this it?
I'm the bald one.
Let's see what this is.
Let's see.
Let's see what you did.
that are not of embarrassed as movement chatter are ready to join us give us their insight
on tonight's debate.
I want to begin with Justin who's joining me now live Justin.
Where are you joining us from?
If you don't mind me asking I'm joining from outside of Chicago.
Okay.
Awesome.
So a Chicago land area person watching our coverage right here.
What brought this to your attention?
I think that the content and the context of the debate
and the election that's going on in Michigan
is definitely like a barometer of sorts.
And that it really does represent a lot of the other elections
that are going on across the country right now.
I think that the consequences of whoever wins this election
will have a lot broader implications
for the rest of the country.
Definitely one of the most watched.
very well spoken so far though.
He says that's of course, what we see nationwide.
Josephson, what stood out to you most tonight?
You know, I really did like that Abdul kept to,
you know, his kind of, his normal messaging,
which is, you know, I'm not really too concerned
about a lot of this other kind of divisive discussion.
doesn't really move anything in any direction in particular.
I'm glad that he talked about, you know,
getting money back into people's pockets.
I'm glad that he talked about healthcare.
I'm glad that he highlighted the fact that he's been
to a lot of town halls across Michigan
and been to you and those specific divisive topics
being brought to him by a Michiganders,
both people who agreed and disagreed with him.
And I'm glad that he also highlighted the fact that,
you know, special interests in corporate lobbies
and our politics are stronger than they ever have been.
And I think that that's honestly the cornerstone
of why our political landscape is the way it is today.
Just so what's your message to all the viewers
and voters that are waiting to see what happens in November?
I would say, you know, stay strong.
It's just around the corner.
I think we'll all be hopefully pleasantly surprised.
I would also say that on some of those divisive topics
that were mentioned, I mean,
I think that it's easier to determine
what the truth about those things are.
If you go and you do a little quick Google search
on Instagram or YouTube,
if you wanted to see what people are talking about.
I wish that Abdul didn't feel strong armed
into removing himself from a strong ally,
for the sake of not taking punches by the media
jason we appreciate you joining in we're gonna get more collars in and
hopefully you uh... keep up with fox to detroit live in reaction room live we
appreciate you so much
i do want to get to kaila pingle she is an audience member
who was joining in the studio listening to the entire
all my fucking god did all my fucking god
with a chatter. Did they're sneaky? Yeah.
US Senate debate, which is very well-spoken chatter here. Kayla, what's your insight?
Wow, it would have been nice to have both candidates there, I think, when I talk.
Yeah, dude, I think that the top story of this debate is going to be that Mike Rogers
didn't show up, which was very cowardly. And I think it's going to reflect very poorly.
It's gonna reflect very poorly on, on, uh, Michiganders. They're not...
Like, the fact that he ran away from this debate is, is so silly.
It's so fucking silly.
I don't think they should reveal their chatter if they make a media appearance anymore.
I mean, it's fine.
New images showing the aftermath of previous strikes of Prince Sultana airbase in Camp Beering.
Oh.
I had just some minor repairable damage, you know photos that make you photos that make you go
Iran is any day now going to
Say sorry my mistake. I see one laundry fire
I see three laundry fires
Okay, maybe there's like four five six laundry fires in this one
Yeah, that one doesn't seem like a laundry fire, maybe an electrical malfunction.
Aircraft losses during the war with Iran, according to the Congressional Research Service.
4 F-15Es destroyed.
One F-35 damaged by enemy fire.
One A-10 destroyed.
7 KC-135 damaged or destroyed.
One E-3 AWACS damaged.
That one is fucking half a billy, okay?
One HH-60W damaged, four AH-6 destroyed by US forces, one AH-64 destroyed, one MA-60
destroyed, one MQ-4C destroyed, 30 MQ-9 Reaper drones destroyed.
30.
the damaged e3 you said I think that's just a bad angle
yeah no no they're just gonna slap some fucking air they're gonna slap some tape on it it'll
be back to business in no time. Yeah, each Reaper is 30 mil, by the way. Each Reaper
is 30 million dollars. Yeah, put some Flex Seal on it. That shit will fly out. It'll
It'll buff out, it'll work.
Anyway, Saudi Arabia cancelling all shipments to Europe?
Nice.
Major, Saudi Arabia is cancelling shipments of crewed to Europe after the catastrophic
destruction of the Saudi East-West pipeline in recent days, paired with Ansar-Allah strikes
against various Saudi infrastructure.
Yeah America's talking about putting a ban on diesel exports as well. I mean, shit's
not looking too good.
Not looking too great folks.
These people have brain worms regarding this. Why do you support Trump? Because the anti-Islam
It's really affecting my state right now. Oh really? In a negative way? Yeah. How is it affecting your state negatively?
Are you aware of where Dearborn is? Yeah, I am. Okay. Well, how is it affecting your state negatively?
We have these people in hijabs. How is it affecting your state negatively?
That's to America. The people in Dearborn are saying that? Yeah. Can you show me evidence of that? You could look up a video, I may don't...
We are breaking the back of this country, dude.
The Republicans are literally destroying this fucking country, all of the behest of Donald
Trump who just wants to steal as much money as he can.
Steal basically everything that is not screwed to the fucking ground outside of the White
House.
For himself, the Epstein class, and his immediate family members, I cannot fucking believe it.
I cannot believe it.
I don't understand how.
We have no protection against this stuff.
Americans make a big deal about national security, but we genuinely have no defense for how easily
manipulatable many people are inside of our own borders, many of them on the right, some
of them on the left as well, some of them on the liberal side as well.
These kinds of strings can be so easily pulled.
Islamophobia, racism, transphobia, xenophobia, anti-migrant sentiments, it's the easiest
game in town.
You just do whatever the fuck you want.
These people literally empty out their wallets, dude.
They really do.
And it's been the same.
It's fucking been the same since the LBJ era.
was right. Linda B. Johnson was right when he said tell the lowest white man or yeah
tell the lowest white man that he's higher than the highest black man and he'll do anything
you want. Give him some a look down upon and he'll empty out his wallet. He'll empty out
his pockets for you. It's true. It is true. There is, there are millions of Americans
who are just like, Oh my God, unprecedented cost of living crisis, deteriorating conditions
all around the fucking country, endless wars from the supposedly peace president. All
All that stuff sucks, but there are people who are worse off than me that don't look
like me, that don't sound like me, and I've now been trained to despise those people.
So I'm not going to pay attention to how much is being stolen from me.
It is fucking insane.
Like this guy literally is like probably never been a fucking Dearborn Michigan.
the hell are you talking about? Like these guys hate America. Oh yeah, these these Muslims are
wearing the hijab and they hate America. It's like, dude, they live in America. They're American.
You're fucking idiot. You're a fucking dumbass. Okay. You are the worst kind of dumbass. You're
a hateful dumbass who doesn't even realize getting fucked over. Like I'm not doing the woke argument
of like, wow, this hurts my feelings or anything, even though there's obviously, I mean, racism is
immoral, right? It's immoral. But it's also unproductive. You're a fucking idiot. You don't
understand how easily duped you are, okay? You have anger about your immediate circumstances.
Some of that anger is, some of that frustration is perfectly valid. But every moment that you
focus on others who are experiencing similar conditions to you and think that they are the
The reason why your financial circumstances are not up to standard, not up to what you
thought they would be at this point is a moment where you're taking your eyes off the prize.
You're dropping the ball.
You're being duped.
Alert, great lakes and rockies regions are likely to see another price hike this week
Even with price jumps that happened already yesterday and today due to jumps in wholesale gasoline and diesel prices gasoline could jump 25 cents 75 cents with diesel rising
55 to 85 cents a gallon.
That's $5, baby.
That's five fucking dollars a gallon.
Why is this happening?
And it's crazy because like on the one hand, I want to feel hopeful.
I want to feel confident that Americans are like not that stupid, right?
I want to hope, I want to feel confident that, you know, when a guy like Abdul al-Sahed comes
around and says, hey, you want to know why that's $5 a gallon?
Because Trump listened to Israel and went to war with Iran.
Now we're all suffering, right?
When he says stuff like that, I assume that some of these guys would go, you know what?
That seems right.
He promised he wasn't gonna go to war now. He's waging war. But God damn it dude. This fucking election cycle is blackpilling me
Some of these motherfuckers are irredeemable
actually
irredeemable
They don't want to know the truth. It just could they plug their fucking ears. They shut off their eyes. They go la la la la la
I don't care. Fuck these Muslims
Fuck these radical Muslims the radical Islam. That's the reason why I'm feeling the pressure right now
It's like no dude, it's fucking Donald Trump. That's the reason
God damn it
People are so fucking stupid can look up the video and then we'll find it together
So you go find the video I understand why a lot of liberals were similarly blackpilled about conservatives man
I've been fucking dealing with conservatives. It's not like this is my first interaction the fuck are you talking about the liberals themselves are also
Engaging in entertaining the same Islamophobic narratives of anything. I'm fucking mad about the liberals too
I wish that we could just like coalesce and
Unify around the same fucking message Donald Trump is the reason why you're gas $5 and the reason why I guess five dollars because
Donald Trump is dumb enough to be the first American president that listened to Israel and went the fucking war with Iran
Okay, he's got Israel's dick's lodged so far up his assholes coming out of its fucking mouth
That's what the Democrats should be saying, but they won't say it because they also fucking want Israel's dick up their asses
What are you talking about?
Oh, liberals are black-pilled because that's why they're black-pilled about conservatives.
Now you understand why a lot of liberals are similarly black-pilled.
I'm black-pilled about the fucking liberals too.
We should all be uniting around this unifying message.
Let's forcibly take and dislodge Benjamin Inouye's dick out of Trump's asshole.
Can we do that?
We can't. Far too much money to interest the play. You know what I mean? Far too many campaigns to consider.
God forbid. I mean specifically the ones that would get shit for being like, no economics won't be able to turn conservatives but fair.
It doesn't matter. Not every conservative is like this. We're looking at edge cases.
But holy shit dude there are so
God racism is brain poison. It really is it is genuinely brain cancer. It's like
It's like this this undefeated
Element it's undefeated. There's just nothing you could do people
They're always giving people who are just be like la la la. I can't hear you. I just won't be fucking hateful
I just want to be hateful. Okay?
No matter, it's low IQ cope, at a certain point we gotta realize people are fucking stupid,
there's unfortunately a lot of people who are just so goddamn stupid.
Bro date, we sent $2.8 billion in weapons to Israel today, taxpayer funded.
We are footing the bill still. Israel is the least popular it has ever been, and tomorrow
it'll be even less popular than it is today. Donald Trump today sent 2.8 billion dollars
of weapons to Israel that taxpayers put the bill on. Today! Today! Two fucking day! What
the hell are we doing? Donald Trump is on the timeline being like, yeah, you're gonna
fucking like the $5 a gallon gas you fucking stupid bitch you voted for me
and you're gonna like it why because we have to fight against Iran and then a
good 30% of the country still goes yeah that's fair
what the fuck
obviously it's a much more complex system half of these people would probably
be a little bit more frustrated if we had an adequate decent media apparatus that was actively
involved in saying the fucking truth. But we don't. They're just as invested in preserving
the safety and security and the overall foreign policy goals of their emotional support of
Apartheid state. It's just one element of it. It's not just the emotional support apartheid state, obviously
There's more
We don't have a decent enough education system
to force-feed critical thinking to some of these fucking hogs.
We don't have.
We don't have a decent enough media apparatus that's invested in, um,
invested in, in truthful narratives getting the public to be aware of certain things that are taking place.
It's all unbelievably busted in dust.
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