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12-28-2025 · 8h 11m

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[00:04:30] My plug-in baby, crucify my enemies, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo.

[00:04:53] Hello! Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.

[00:05:03] Hello.

[00:05:05] How you doin'?

[00:05:11] How you doin'?

[00:05:15] Hi.

[00:05:17] I um...

[00:05:18] I did I did this some some different

[00:05:27] Personally, I think it makes my full head look really big, but um, I read it liked it, sir

[00:05:35] I'm digging the new lifted hair part

[00:05:37] Thank you very much.

[00:05:40] I love you!

[00:05:42] You're looking good, Lydia.

[00:05:46] So that makes me look like I have a 10,000 head.

[00:05:49] But, thank you. I appreciate it.

[00:05:55] I like your hair, Lydia. Wow. It's so cute, Pipo Gloss.

[00:05:59] Honestly, I feel like I have to do that.

[00:06:02] Because, okay, I normally wear my hair like this, right?

[00:06:04] And the new style looks beautiful. I love it all and also missed you much. He he

[00:06:09] Thank you

[00:06:14] I know my mom I had like this, right?

[00:06:18] But like the tuffs the tuffs get exposed and I went to the hairdresser and she gave me and she gave me more tuffs

[00:06:28] so

[00:06:29] Now I have more tuffs to get exposed

[00:06:31] So I thought I would try to do you look amazing huggies. Hope you had an amazing Sunday people rose

[00:06:38] Thank you. Wait hold on it Sunday today. I've never seen a forehead. So good idea. Wow

[00:06:44] Guys my day starts

[00:06:48] When I go live I

[00:06:51] Can never have had a good Sunday because I don't know how Sunday being you know

[00:06:57] Like okay, maybe for you guys it's 7 p.m.

[00:07:01] possibly well 8 p.m. actually okay maybe you might be like well that's no the

[00:07:06] end of the day guys my day it's just begun okay it's not basically just woke up

[00:07:12] this morning here and a half since I found the best streamer on twitch thank

[00:07:17] you bad oh and me also and me also thank you very much

[00:07:24] Welcome Ashley, welcome Anthony Selfish, Tom, welcome Michael, Eva, Jaron, uh, Browse,

[00:07:31] Kari, um, Norse, um, Camp Pyro, hello, welcome Shayne.

[00:07:39] Look what you are ready for the new year 2026.

[00:07:42] Is that a good thing?

[00:07:45] Does that mean that I look a year older?

[00:07:48] Welcome Shane, Kurok, Velocity, God, Xyloid, Welcome Ninja, Killer, Benvan, Tyson, hello.

[00:08:05] Okay, this means I'm going to be touching my heat even more.

[00:08:14] And by he- I mean hair, I just said it weirdly.

[00:08:17] Um, I'm gonna be touching my hair even more so if it triggers you already how much I touch

[00:08:22] my hair, then um, I'm fair this is gonna be a really ragebait stream, yeah, my bad.

[00:08:26] Yeah, my bad.

[00:08:27] Very pretty on 3 year anniversary high pay.

[00:08:30] She is- AHH!

[00:08:31] AHH!

[00:08:32] AHH!

[00:08:33] Love the hairstyle.

[00:08:34] It accentuates your forehead.

[00:08:36] Oh my- I have a feeling I'm gonna get a lot of that today, okay?

[00:08:44] fine I have thick skin actually I do not have thick skin at all I feel like I

[00:08:49] have really thin skin like I feel like if you pinch my skin and then you pinch

[00:08:54] other people's skin consensually I do not pinch someone's skin if they don't

[00:08:58] want you to pinch their skin but um I don't know I feel like there's less of

[00:09:02] a pinch that I you know what I mean?

[00:09:04] Christian!

[00:09:05] Thank you for the five gift cards!

[00:09:07] Thank you!

[00:09:08] Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, I appreciate you.

[00:09:11] Thank you.

[00:09:13] Oh, chat.

[00:09:14] I have had a day.

[00:09:15] Also, Syax, Syax.

[00:09:18] I have had a day.

[00:09:20] It's been a day.

[00:09:27] Streamlabs are already broken.

[00:09:35] Guys, I can't stop talking because I

[00:09:37] know there's alerts coming up.

[00:09:39] But then, I don't know how long,

[00:09:41] so I just sit here awkwardly.

[00:09:46] How's your day going?

[00:09:53] Don't mind me.

[00:09:55] We can just have a staring contest.

[00:09:58] Horrible.

[00:10:03] Okay.

[00:10:05] You know what, honestly, that's mainly poster.

[00:10:07] I didn't mean to say OK to you saying your day is horrible.

[00:10:09] I mean, that's bad.

[00:10:13] Ah, gee, thank you for the five.

[00:10:16] Hold on, I'll read them out.

[00:10:18] I'll read them out.

[00:10:21] Brooke's room upstairs.

[00:10:24] Ah, gee, thank you for the five, Gifter.

[00:10:26] Thank you.

[00:10:27] Thank you.

[00:10:28] Thank you.

[00:10:30] Spiders said, bonsoir, Lydia.

[00:10:32] Comment allez-vous?

[00:10:35] just sweet bia

[00:10:37] you look exceptionally normal girly pop today and i love it

[00:10:41] smiley face with hearts emoji zany face emoji

[00:10:45] zany face um and lucky happy anniversary

[00:10:50] thank you so much for 30 months thank you for the tertiary for 30 months

[00:10:54] for 30 months lucky thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

[00:10:58] thank you and thank you for the hydrangea

[00:11:01] I appreciate it guys. Thank you.

[00:11:03] Ah, I've got a wave that keeps coming down in the middle.

[00:11:07] What do I do about this thing?

[00:11:08] Do you see what I mean?

[00:11:09] I went to the hairdresser's to fix my tufts.

[00:11:12] And um, I've got lipstick on my face.

[00:11:15] I went to the hairdresser's to fix my tufts.

[00:11:17] And she gave me more tufts.

[00:11:20] So, um...

[00:11:22] You want me to eat it?

[00:11:24] I knew a girl that ate her hair once.

[00:11:27] Just for critical analysis the new hairstyle gives you a more adult womanly style.

[00:11:32] The center part fits for girls and women in a more utilitarian way.

[00:11:37] Just a professional opinion.

[00:11:40] Happy Sunday, Lydia.

[00:11:42] What's it for you?

[00:11:43] I have yet to see you look bad in everything you've done.

[00:11:46] The...

[00:11:47] Hope you have an upcoming happy new year.

[00:11:50] You think I look bad in everything I've done?

[00:11:57] Thank you for the time gift to Pasha. Thank you very, very, very, very, very, very, very much.

[00:12:10] Thank you. And no, I will not be going bold, okay? Bold does not mean no more problems.

[00:12:17] It just means that I have the problem of being bold instead. Not that there's anything wrong with being bold.

[00:12:23] bold but you know personally I would prefer to keep that okay guys I'm there's nothing wrong

[00:12:29] with being bold but just personally I would rather not be bold than be bold okay it has taken me a

[00:12:36] long time I vowed to myself when I was when I was a kid okay my mom she used to chop my hair into a

[00:12:43] bob I was I was I could have been a cute kid but I was not a cute kid because she always used to

[00:12:49] to chop my hair into a bob and I did it was like one of those like short bobs as

[00:12:53] well yeah and I really hated it and and I always wanted to grow my hair out long

[00:12:59] like really bad like all of my friends and I'm sure like no because it's like too

[00:13:03] much like maintenance and stuff right so my mom didn't let me grow my hair out

[00:13:06] and then I was like I vow I vow in my life that I will and technically I did

[00:13:15] come. Ventus, this is your second TTS about the size of my forehead.

[00:13:20] Congrats on getting the tape off your arms.

[00:13:23] 10 minutes for 5 minutes for...

[00:13:24] W did it hurt getting it off?

[00:13:26] Oh my gosh, yes it did. Wait, hold on, do you see these scars?

[00:13:36] I have cuts all over my arms. Yep, yep, they're there. They're there.

[00:13:44] cuts all of my arms for, for putting tape all of my arms.

[00:13:49] Someone said I have sensitive skin. I would personally say that I

[00:13:54] just had harsh tape, not sensitive skin. So, um, yeah,

[00:14:01] no, I, I, I, I sat in the box. So, okay, so I sat in the bath

[00:14:05] for ages. But I think all the cuts on my arms, what do we

[00:14:09] find it really hard to take off even when I was like sitting

[00:14:11] in the bath for ages, right? Like it wouldn't have just

[00:14:13] come off I still have to like peel it off but I think that the cuts are just for

[00:14:19] me not being able to bend my arm in the time that it was on my arm. So yeah I

[00:14:24] hope you guys liked my Santa Christmas outfit because I will be scarred

[00:14:30] for the rest of my life. That perhaps is an exaggeration but it also perhaps is

[00:14:35] not an exaggeration. I will be scarred for the rest of my life as a result of

[00:14:40] that. So story for the kids. Yeah, kids, don't tape yourself. Don't

[00:14:47] don't do a cosplay as your arms being a helter skelter. Right.

[00:14:53] Oh my gosh. No, hold on. I'm oh my gosh, I actually did do

[00:14:56] something today. You know, when I was like, no, it's basically

[00:14:58] like I just woke up. Oh my gosh, I've actually had such a

[00:15:02] day. I've had such a day. Um, please don't forget to breathe. Sorry. I can't breathe.

[00:15:19] Thank you for the 20 gifted borough! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! So much some!

[00:15:41] Thank you Boro. I very, very, very much appreciate it. Thank you. I'll do the dance for you.

[00:15:49] 🎵 Music 🎵

[00:16:03] Ah! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you, Mora.

[00:16:07] I, um, I've decided that on the parts that I don't know the lyrics to,

[00:16:14] I will just not sing the lyrics.

[00:16:17] You might think that that is an obvious thing to do, however, in my life up to this point

[00:16:24] I have not done that, so I'm no longer going to be a lyrical noob, because I'm just going

[00:16:30] to do a whole lot less singing.

[00:16:31] Unless I think I know the lyrics and then I full pout the lyrics and they're wrong,

[00:16:36] but I guess that's like a different thing altogether.

[00:16:40] Um, okay, chat.

[00:16:43] Um, this is...

[00:16:44] VENTA!

[00:16:46] Ha ha ha!

[00:16:46] Look around, say hello, make sure you don't see me.

[00:16:49] You hear what goes!

[00:16:54] Hey, hello, make sure they don't see me.

[00:16:56] Chat, this is the rock and roll sign, right?

[00:16:58] It's not a gang.

[00:16:59] I never know if it's this or if it's this.

[00:17:02] Um, I'm trying to do the rock and roll.

[00:17:05] I'm not trying to, uh, I'm not trying to spam gang signs.

[00:17:09] um if you if that is your gang sign and you're in a gang right now

[00:17:25] Lydia wow you look so beautiful today I really like the different hairstyle and do not listen to the haters

[00:17:33] Oh!

[00:17:34] People rose hashtag, not a paid chat.

[00:17:36] I listened to the haters.

[00:17:37] Chat, I listened to the haters.

[00:17:39] I got hate today.

[00:17:41] I got hate today.

[00:17:43] Yeah.

[00:17:44] All I was doing was I was innocently scrolling on my TikTok, okay?

[00:17:48] I was POV me.

[00:17:53] What do you mean haters rise up?

[00:17:55] I was scrolling on my TikTok this morning, okay?

[00:17:59] And I come across a video of myself.

[00:18:02] Scary scary that see videos of myself saying really dumb things that I probably just

[00:18:08] Tried to get out my memory, but um, I saw a video of myself

[00:18:13] And you know what I said? I

[00:18:16] Was talking about you a leap up

[00:18:19] And I said

[00:18:21] He's a 10 out of 10

[00:18:24] But his favorite artist is duo lump that loop up. I don't think I could do it

[00:18:30] Okay

[00:18:32] joke as a joke, I mean, okay, I mean, you're obviously,

[00:18:37] it's as a joke, okay, I mean, okay, yeah, no,

[00:18:41] it's as a joke, it's as a joke, okay.

[00:18:42] Okay, as a joke, I said that, okay.

[00:18:45] And, bro, you know what the top comment was?

[00:18:53] Since when did I get onto this horrible,

[00:18:55] shallow side of TikTok?

[00:19:02] Okay, first of all, first of all, okay, okay, do we agree or disagree with that?

[00:19:14] Guys, what do we, do we agree or disagree with that?

[00:19:21] What do you mean?

[00:19:28] Okay, for anyone that's saying, is agree, okay?

[00:19:34] And Israel, thank you.

[00:19:36] Thank you, Israel.

[00:19:37] Bella, zee, zee, zee.

[00:19:39] Thank you very much.

[00:19:40] I appreciate it.

[00:19:41] Thank you.

[00:19:42] Um, yeah, so, um, for anyone, okay, saying agree right now.

[00:19:47] And Shai, thank you.

[00:19:48] Um, brother.

[00:19:49] I was joking okay if I'm at the love of my life okay if I'm at the love of my any

[00:20:07] happen to be like my favorite singer is Gioalipa. That's fun. I don't mind. Like, thanks

[00:20:19] for the place. I don't mind. That's show. That's cool. Good for you, you know it? But

[00:20:27] however, however, I'm gonna take myself out of the equation. Okay. Oh my gosh, that's

[00:20:31] Stephanie, I'm there!

[00:20:33] Thank you, thank you!

[00:20:35] If spirit... no, no spirit.

[00:20:37] If Stephanie...

[00:20:39] Okay...

[00:20:41] Decided she did not like guys

[00:20:43] Hypothetically, who liked you, Alipa.

[00:20:47] Is that... is that shallower?

[00:20:51] That's within her right!

[00:20:53] That is within her right!

[00:21:01] Okay, okay, judging based on looks I get it. I get it. It's bad. Okay, if you're like

[00:21:10] I only want to date someone that looks this way, okay? I can see the moral qualms, okay?

[00:21:16] I only want to date someone that has material things. I can see the moral

[00:21:22] qualms, okay? But does liking certain songs not fool into personality? I don't

[00:21:31] And if you can't judge someone based on their looks and what they have, then the only real

[00:21:36] other thing to base someone on is personality!

[00:21:39] Am I wrong?

[00:21:41] Okay?

[00:21:42] Sorry.

[00:21:43] You know this, we're actually doing debates today, I'm in a debating mood, so okay, this

[00:21:51] is gonna be a good room, but um, it falls on your personality.

[00:21:56] So you judge based on playlists?

[00:21:58] I hold music tastes very private to my life, okay? I don't like to, um, I don't like to, uh, show my music tastes.

[00:22:10] Because I don't want to be judged, okay? But I knew I, I know I would be judged. I know I would be judged.

[00:22:17] And that's okay. That is okay. I would expect to be judged.

[00:22:22] Check. If I was like my favorite artist is

[00:22:28] I don't know

[00:22:31] The the rap is six nine, okay versus I'm like my favorite artist is

[00:22:38] The Beatles

[00:22:41] Would you see me exactly the same?

[00:22:44] Because you you like relate to and I feel like have the vibe a lot of

[00:22:50] of the music you listen to, what do you mean yes?

[00:22:54] Okay, okay, okay.

[00:22:56] You are a slightly different person based onto the music

[00:23:01] that you listen to and relate to.

[00:23:04] That's like, that's like fact.

[00:23:08] Like, you have the vibes of the music

[00:23:12] that you got in your head, on the whole, okay?

[00:23:17] Only funking joyers need apply to be Libby's boyfriend.

[00:23:22] And if they listen to funk, there is like a bath.

[00:23:25] Apart from if you're me, I listen to funk very wholesomely, as my wake up alarm.

[00:23:31] Every single morning.

[00:23:33] And with that, I think it's a time.

[00:23:37] Oh

[00:23:46] For a karaoke, um, apple and apple mango anyone

[00:23:58] Uh-huh

[00:24:07] you

[00:24:37] you

[00:25:07] you

[00:25:37] you

[00:26:07] you

[00:26:37] I can't pull out the sky and I won't feel nothin'

[00:27:04] I could pull out a spy, I won't film nothin'

[00:27:08] Way too high, whoa, whoa, I'm way too high

[00:27:13] Whoa, whoa, I'm way too high

[00:27:16] Whoa, whoa, I'm way too high

[00:27:20] Whoa, whoa, I'm way too high

[00:27:23] Guys, look how I like, I put the octaves in the-

[00:27:26] I put the octaves in the wrap

[00:27:30] Hell yeah, I just said that

[00:27:33] Um...

[00:27:35] Out of ten. Out of ten.

[00:27:38] Uh, in next six. Thanks for the...

[00:27:40] Thanks for the five months. Um...

[00:27:46] Okay.

[00:27:48] Point proven, by the way.

[00:27:50] Okay, point proven.

[00:27:52] I know for a fact...

[00:27:56] Fifty minutes of chat press.

[00:27:58] Thanks for a good reason for me not to listen to Rapplidi Realization.

[00:28:02] I don't know.

[00:28:03] Okay.

[00:28:04] Funtas, don't you just listen to the rap though and then you hear the rap and then you're

[00:28:10] like, oh my gosh.

[00:28:11] Do you guys want to listen to this for a little bit?

[00:28:16] This is so cool.

[00:28:19] Uh.

[00:28:20] Uh.

[00:28:21] Patrick got a Lydia pillow for Cri- Wait, bro.

[00:28:26] Someone got a- Wait, this is me!

[00:28:30] Oh my god!

[00:28:35] I hope that I don't haunt you in your sleep and I hope that when you open your eyes every

[00:28:44] single morning I am staring right at you and I hope that it doesn't creep you out because

[00:28:55] I will move around your house when no one put me in the places that I will end up.

[00:29:05] I will do that, but don't worry, it's normal.

[00:29:09] I'm not going to cause any harm.

[00:29:11] That's just what happens when you have a picture of my face anywhere.

[00:29:14] It just happens to move around a little bit.

[00:29:18] It's part of the added charm, guys.

[00:29:20] It's part of the added charm.

[00:29:22] Anyway.

[00:29:23] Um, so I did wake up to my daily dose of hate this morning.

[00:29:27] I did.

[00:29:28] Um, if you, yeah, um, oh my God.

[00:29:31] Oh yeah, hold on.

[00:29:32] Okay.

[00:29:32] So I woke up to my daily dose of hate.

[00:29:34] Okay.

[00:29:34] Got out of bed.

[00:29:35] Okay.

[00:29:36] Listening to funk music.

[00:29:37] Bing bang boom.

[00:29:40] Shout.

[00:29:41] I've had a day.

[00:29:42] I've had a day.

[00:29:43] It's actually been insane.

[00:29:46] Did you have the daily dose of McDonald's to cope with the hate after?

[00:29:50] No.

[00:29:51] I haven't actually had one all the ages.

[00:29:53] Oh my gosh, I cooked my own meal this morning.

[00:29:57] Okay, oh my gosh.

[00:29:59] Day one.

[00:30:21] you

[00:30:51] you

[00:31:21] you

[00:31:51] you

[00:32:21] you

[00:32:51] I really, really, really, really, really, really appreciate that, thank you.

[00:33:04] Yeah, it's not because I can't cook, okay?

[00:33:07] The reason that I don't cook is because it takes too long.

[00:33:10] And so I realized that it doesn't actually take that long either.

[00:33:14] She just put it in the oven and took it out of the oven, which was kind of crazy.

[00:33:17] I'm like, drowned it in olive oil because apparently olive oil is good for you.

[00:33:21] So, you know, I for the first time in a really long time

[00:33:27] didn't have like an epic energy crash before stream,

[00:33:30] which like never happens.

[00:33:32] I'm always like really tired, like lying on the floor,

[00:33:35] like on my phone, like doing roly-poly,

[00:33:37] like really tired, okay?

[00:33:39] And then today I was like, what the hell?

[00:33:40] Yeah, I actually have so much energy.

[00:33:41] It might've been because I had my Coca-Cola earlier,

[00:33:43] but I was like, what the hell are you?

[00:33:45] Like, oh my gosh, I actually feel amazing.

[00:33:48] Like, shut up, I have so much energy right now.

[00:33:49] And I think it's because I didn't have bread, like most of the time I'm going through a phase

[00:33:56] where I got one of those like big, you know, like the big French, big like rolls.

[00:34:01] I'm going through a phase where I have like one of those big French rolls and hummus.

[00:34:05] Not going to lie, Anna was a bad influence.

[00:34:07] She got me hooked and now I've continued to be hooked ever since I was back from

[00:34:11] America.

[00:34:12] But like I've just been like having bread, like that's like the only thing I've

[00:34:15] been eating for like days and days and days.

[00:34:17] And I was like, okay, I'm actually gonna not have bread today,

[00:34:20] and I ate healthy, and I feel so much better.

[00:34:22] Okay, I'm not, well, yeah, I am, I was,

[00:34:26] I'm blaming bread, I'm not blaming Anna,

[00:34:28] I'm blaming bread.

[00:34:29] And yeah, I feel so much better.

[00:34:32] However, I'm out of food after the salad,

[00:34:34] so I'm probably gonna get progressively more and more

[00:34:37] hungry throughout the course of the stream.

[00:34:39] But that's okay, because we ate healthy this morning,

[00:34:41] so if it gets really bad, we can just order McDonald's.

[00:34:44] Am I right?

[00:34:45] Am I right? Am I right? This is not obese arc incoming. I'm saying I ate healthy and I don't have any food in my house.

[00:34:55] But that's like double, well it's not double healthy, you should definitely eat. But that's like double not obese arc incoming.

[00:35:01] Unless I relapsed into McDonald's, which I might mess around and do.

[00:35:05] Anyway, okay, so I went to the shops, okay, I got some macros, I got some salad, okay.

[00:35:12] Bing bang boom everything's an amazing day and then for like the 10th time my

[00:35:17] my phone told me that I had an air tag so I was like hmm anyways not gonna talk

[00:35:23] about that too much but um but think I'm being tracked but it's okay I'll sort it

[00:35:27] so um yeah anyway so I spent the entire morning on um like find my iPhone

[00:35:33] because like you can like it like pops up and find my iPhone

[00:35:37] It's okay, don't stress, I've stressed enough but I found I spent the entire morning and

[00:35:44] found my iPhone and um oh my gosh, was anyone here when um I used to like perma cry about

[00:35:52] my ad not actually cry, cry like as a matter of fact about my um AirPods?

[00:35:58] This is okay. So, also I thought for my 18th birthday, I got apples. That was my present for my 18th birthday and I was so excited. I wanted them for so long. Okay? Like, oh my gosh, apples. And when they were like hype as well, right?

[00:36:22] It was my present.

[00:36:24] Anyways.

[00:36:26] They stopped working a year later.

[00:36:33] Apple moment. Apple moment. They stopped working a year later, okay?

[00:36:36] And I remember being on stream, like, smashing them all over the floor, and...

[00:36:41] I just smashed them around a lot, because they were broken, because...

[00:36:45] They wouldn't charge, they wouldn't do anything, and then I just gave up, so I, like, smashed them around everywhere, because I already knew they were broken.

[00:36:51] Anyways, I ended up throwing them away, okay, but they were still tracked on find my iPhone

[00:37:00] this entire time and I didn't realize.

[00:37:03] Chat, tell me why.

[00:37:04] So I ended up, I threw them away, it was like 19, like three years ago, okay.

[00:37:11] I opened my friends my iPhone.

[00:37:17] They're in Ghana. Tell me why they're in Ghana.

[00:37:24] Festival! Okay.

[00:37:29] Festival! Okay, I'm happy for someone that got them, you know, like I...

[00:37:34] Guess I gave my...

[00:37:37] Applets to someone that might have needed them, you know.

[00:37:40] Um, but second of all...

[00:37:42] Does that mean that they still work?

[00:37:45] Bro, how are they in Ghana?

[00:37:49] What like, what like area along the chain gave them to somewhere in Ghana?

[00:37:55] You know what I mean?

[00:37:56] Like, bro, you could like make a movie out of like the life of these athletes.

[00:38:02] You know what I mean?

[00:38:03] Like, what the hell, did someone, did someone like fish them out of the bin in England

[00:38:10] and then like, I don't know, like I don't even know how that works.

[00:38:15] And then they just happen to be on holiday in England and they live in Ghana?

[00:38:21] Or did they get put into the dump and then they dumped them somewhere in Ghana and then

[00:38:27] someone looked through the dump and found, like, bro, how does that work?

[00:38:34] But yeah, it's in a big city in Ghana, so it's not like a waste site.

[00:38:40] I'm pretty sure someone is using these airports in Ghana.

[00:38:44] So, um, crazy life random event, by the way, but yeah, it makes me a little salty because

[00:38:50] on the one hand I'm like, wait, did I just throw away perfectly good Apple?

[00:38:53] It's not like hurts a little bit.

[00:38:55] But they're probably just being tracked, right?

[00:38:57] Like they probably don't work or don't work that well, but like the tracking for them

[00:39:02] is still on.

[00:39:03] That's what I'm assuming is happening.

[00:39:05] Some African countries recycle trash from other countries, so probably they refurbished

[00:39:09] them.

[00:39:10] Refurbished?

[00:39:11] Bro, you can get AirPods refurbished? Okay, maybe I'm just a silly, I was a silly teenager.

[00:39:19] I was a silly teenager back then. I would never do that now. I would be the sensible

[00:39:23] adult who knows that you can do stuff like refurbish these things, you know. For half

[00:39:28] the price, easy. Really? Honestly, I reckon they probably went for less than half the

[00:39:35] price. Yeah. No, every time you go to refurbish

[00:39:40] iPhone or was like, yeah bro, it's cheaper to just buy another iPhone. Another iPhone moment by the

[00:39:46] way. Another iPhone, like have you ever done that? Like where you've like smashed the screen or

[00:39:51] something and then and then you try and get it refurbished and they're like, yeah, or like someone

[00:39:56] who is like wise and know these things tells you, yeah, it's easier if you just go and get

[00:40:01] another iPhone, honestly. Yeah. Um, the lengths you go through, well, I wouldn't, yeah, anyway.

[00:40:11] What do you mean by that? Okay. But, um, yeah, it's cheap. Okay. Sorry. For anyone that doesn't

[00:40:16] know the story, that's what some people do. They put air tags in clothes and see if they

[00:40:21] actually go to a third world country and resold. Wait, that's actually so cool. Actually,

[00:40:26] No, don't do that. Do not attack people things. Do not attack people things. It is bad and it is

[00:40:34] Yeah, it's bad. Don't do that. Yeah, I apparently there are like very few false positives

[00:40:41] But like I've checked every single one of my items and it doesn't like it full the attack follows me around

[00:40:48] But I've checked everything and it's not on me. So I feel like I'm kind of going skit so at this point

[00:40:53] But it will be fine. It will be fine. Like it followed me, it followed me like into the

[00:41:00] show, it followed me into the shop just to follow me into the shop. Anyways, having like

[00:41:04] 10 times, but not every single time. I'm going crazy. Honestly, I said that I wouldn't

[00:41:08] talk about this, like I said to myself that I wouldn't talk about this. If anyone knows

[00:41:14] anything about air tags though, okay, because we might have a smart tech guru and chat

[00:41:17] that knows these things, you know what I mean? Also, like, there's no one that

[00:41:21] I could have been attacked by like I haven't been like I haven't been in

[00:41:27] contact with others you know like I mean to be fair like Christmas is a busy

[00:41:32] time so when I go to the grocery store that are quite a lot of people why was

[00:41:35] some random person in the grocery store attack me like what why would that

[00:41:41] happen um so I don't know I can't find it honestly I don't really know what an

[00:41:46] air tag looks like but um yeah so oh my gosh chat it followed me to the it

[00:41:52] followed me to the shops yesterday okay I got like um a black top from the shop

[00:41:56] straight okay because um I have this thing where I put like acid and stuff on

[00:42:00] my face like it just helps um so I put like acids on my face and then when I

[00:42:05] would have black things that the acid wipes off and then like so I have to

[00:42:08] keep on like re-re-gagitating, renewing my like, um, my black clothes. Anyways. So, let's not...

[00:42:19] Okay, so, um, bruh, I go to the counter of the shop. I don't know why I am the way I am. Okay.

[00:42:32] I go to the counter of the shop. I'm in a hella good mood. I'm like plus one black

[00:42:38] top. W-w-w. And basically Boxing Day sales. I think Boxing Day sales are a scam, but I'm

[00:42:45] going to tell myself that it's Boxing Day sales, okay? So, um, so, so, I go to the counter,

[00:42:51] okay? And this lady is so friggin' nice. She said that I'm pretty. Not saying I'm-I'm-I'm

[00:43:04] not flexing that she said that I'm pretty. I'm not flexing that. I'm sure she

[00:43:07] She would have said that to anyone. It's just because I was buying Clarence and she went out to the store, you know what I mean?

[00:43:11] But she could be pretty.

[00:43:13] Okay.

[00:43:15] Thank you so much. Thank you so much. You are like, I love you.

[00:43:18] Earrings.

[00:43:19] Ah, okay.

[00:43:21] And she was like,

[00:43:22] And she was like,

[00:43:23] Where are you from? You look like Eastern European.

[00:43:28] Anyways, I got like all quit out, okay?

[00:43:30] So I was like, yeah.

[00:43:37] Because you know when you like don't fully know what someone said?

[00:43:42] So I was just like, oh yeah.

[00:43:49] Because I was like really happy because she complimented me.

[00:43:56] So then I was like, I don't know, I was just feeling myself on top of the world.

[00:44:00] Life was amazing, you know.

[00:44:02] And I go, yeah.

[00:44:04] She goes, whereabouts?

[00:44:08] The tag is clearly in something you own.

[00:44:10] Leave your app with various items on at a time like personal backpack to test which thing follows you.

[00:44:16] Yeah, no, I've been testing on money. I've been testing on money.

[00:44:20] She goes, whereabouts?

[00:44:22] Your phone could be picking up air tags from packages around you.

[00:44:26] During this time of year there are a lot of air tags out there.

[00:44:30] I have to turn off the app on my phone when I'm delivering because my truck is full of them.

[00:44:35] Uh-huh. So it could be from...

[00:44:39] ...something on one of my clothes.

[00:44:44] I've checked all my clothes. I've checked everything.

[00:44:48] Great gift. Okay, yeah, okay. She was like, she was like, where from?

[00:44:55] I use our tags to many things.

[00:44:58] In fact, I forgot my air tag in the car I sold last month.

[00:45:02] What?

[00:45:03] Wait, hold on.

[00:45:04] You can have an air tag in a car?

[00:45:08] Cars are air tagged?

[00:45:14] Why not?

[00:45:15] Okay.

[00:45:16] Anyways, I'm going to skip that.

[00:45:18] I didn't put an air tag on.

[00:45:20] I don't think I've bought anything new in the times that it's come up.

[00:45:24] I've thought everything through.

[00:45:26] Um, yeah, did I say, um, she said, she, she said, where from, okay.

[00:45:39] And, and, and I was like, I didn't know what to say.

[00:45:43] So then I just walked off.

[00:45:45] Yeah, that was the end of the story.

[00:45:48] I just thought I'd finished it.

[00:45:51] Like I pretended that I didn't hear her and then I walked off.

[00:45:58] Ligia, before the new year, I'll get the keys for my new flat.

[00:46:04] It's in the same building, but everything has a new kitchen and a new shower.

[00:46:10] Yummy, yummy, having a new shower, chat, new shower, y'all now.

[00:46:18] You have the benefit of, you have the benefit of no scary, stinky feet have ever laid foot

[00:46:25] on that flower before, on that shower before, but then you have the negative of nobody's

[00:46:30] feet have ever laid foot on that shower before.

[00:46:35] Anyway, for what do you mean at least, socially awkward story?

[00:46:42] I told you that story because it's an outlier, okay?

[00:46:49] And most interactions that I have are not like that, so, yeah, anyways, at least socially

[00:46:59] awkward streamer.

[00:47:00] You know what, okay?

[00:47:01] it is normal as a streamer, okay, to me more used to sitting at home talking to your community

[00:47:09] than it is to be going outside. So I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Okay,

[00:47:14] it's, I was, I was very nice. I'm pretty sure she just thought that I just try behavior,

[00:47:19] nothing bad. Yeah, thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Um, anyways, now she thinks she offended you.

[00:47:28] I really don't okay okay I have a question this is like I'm I feel like

[00:47:35] this is a like a mindset thing that I find it really interesting so please

[00:47:41] answer honestly okay because this is a serious question that I've I've always

[00:47:45] think about this like daily honestly probably if anything had to make my Roman

[00:47:49] Empire this would be my Roman Empire it's a really sad thing to be my Roman

[00:47:54] but it's like my room and umpire okay you know when you like read a book okay

[00:48:01] and and and the author is like ooh I found her very pretty and then the author

[00:48:11] is like I thought like this about this person you know what I mean okay and I

[00:48:22] I feel like there are some people in the world, okay,

[00:48:26] that are like, they go into a situation,

[00:48:29] like,

[00:48:31] that person's being weird to me right now.

[00:48:34] Looking kinda adulty, thank you Sonic.

[00:48:37] That person is being rude to me right now.

[00:48:39] That person's being angry to me right now.

[00:48:41] That person's being nice to me right now.

[00:48:43] You know what I mean?

[00:48:44] And then you have the other set of people

[00:48:48] who are like,

[00:48:48] Why is that person acting that way?

[00:48:53] Did I do something wrong?

[00:48:56] That person's smiling, it must mean that they like me.

[00:49:00] There's the set of people that are judging the other person and then the set of people

[00:49:06] that are judging themselves for the same interaction.

[00:49:11] Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

[00:49:14] Am I making coherent sense?

[00:49:18] Some people judge the situation.

[00:49:22] Or like, some people judge what the other person is like.

[00:49:25] Some people are like, judging themselves.

[00:49:30] I gotta be making sense, please,

[00:49:32] because I think about this so often.

[00:49:36] Chat, if you know what I mean, which one are you?

[00:49:40] Because I am 100% spectrum.

[00:49:45] They have a grumpy face on, they hate me.

[00:49:47] They haven't like a happy face on, they like me, right?

[00:49:50] I'm sorry Lydia, I don't understand your explanation at all.

[00:49:54] Okay, okay, okay.

[00:49:56] No, it's not main character, I just want people to like me, bro.

[00:50:01] But like, okay, okay.

[00:50:02] So like, say someone's like,

[00:50:05] and I feel like it's so good for your mental

[00:50:07] to be group number one.

[00:50:09] Oh, I feel like I'm not making any sense.

[00:50:11] Okay, okay, let me try to explain this one more time.

[00:50:13] Okay.

[00:50:15] Say something weird, chat.

[00:50:17] say something weird. Okay. If you guys said something weird to me, then I would be like,

[00:50:25] okay, if group number, if you said something weird to group number one of people, okay,

[00:50:34] they would be like, chat is weird. They're saying weird things. They're saying weird.

[00:50:47] right now. I could see you spamming F's that entire time. I could see you spamming... okay, okay,

[00:51:00] groove number two, right, is like, shot saying weird right now. That's really nice. I don't know.

[00:51:10] They must feel comfortable around me.

[00:51:14] They must like me.

[00:51:16] People blushed.

[00:51:17] Okay?

[00:51:18] One is like, judging other people.

[00:51:22] Two is like...

[00:51:23] Ligia, maybe the air tag is in one of you black skirts, so that is why you see it often

[00:51:29] but not always following you around.

[00:51:31] You're the idea of a wear.

[00:51:32] I don't like black skirts that much.

[00:51:35] If you mean, some people judge other people's actions and some people judge the reasons

[00:51:40] why they did something, if that's it in death second.

[00:51:43] Yes, yes, that's what I mean! Okay, one if you understand what I mean, two if you still

[00:51:48] don't get what I mean. Because I am so passionate about this subject, I think about this all

[00:51:52] the time. And I just want to know if people actually understand, that's like 50% of people

[00:52:00] don't know what I mean. Okay, sad. Do you A, do you one, judge other people for the way

[00:52:14] that they act? Or do you two not judge other people for the way that they act and be like

[00:52:23] it must be my fault.

[00:52:31] Like, if someone came to me

[00:52:34] and they were just grumpy that day,

[00:52:37] then I would be like, they hate me.

[00:52:40] Bad book!

[00:52:41] And I feel like I need to remind myself sometimes

[00:52:44] that that is having a bad day.

[00:52:46] No, you're right.

[00:52:47] People are too judgy.

[00:52:49] I'll find out weeks later that co-workers thought I didn't like them because I didn't talk to them.

[00:52:55] Nope, I'm just minding my business.

[00:52:57] No! No, no, no, no! That's not what I'm saying, though!

[00:53:01] I'm saying... I'm saying, like, the difference between, okay, they're grumpy?

[00:53:06] Do they think... do you think they don't like them or do you think they're just grumpy?

[00:53:10] All the interaction between purple isn't a part of this scenario.

[00:53:14] I'm having normal interactions with people. That's not what I mean.

[00:53:20] Well, I feel like I explained this so badly. I feel like I explained this so badly.

[00:53:25] I mean, yeah, if they're sat there sobbing because they've had a traumatic life event,

[00:53:30] then I'm not going to be like, it's me. They hate me, okay?

[00:53:34] But I'm saying, I'm saying, if they, you know what, don't worry.

[00:53:39] You know what, don't worry. You know what, don't worry. I explained it so badly.

[00:53:42] But I think about it really often and I feel like it's nice and refreshing to judge people more.

[00:53:51] But I just can't do it, you know what I mean?

[00:53:54] Like if someone is strange...

[00:53:58] So on a bad day, for example, if I had this person be mean to me, I'll think it's my fault.

[00:54:03] For example, at work, I get calls where people are even sometimes I think it's my fault, Sage Bob.

[00:54:09] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[00:54:12] I can't have normal conversation with people. I scare them off people sad.

[00:54:16] Um, also, what do you think of the clavicular situation that you guys know the clavicular situation?

[00:54:24] Do you know what's what happened with that?

[00:54:29] Crazy, crazy, crazy.

[00:54:35] So that was a guy that we literally talked about on last weeks or like last debate stream,

[00:54:46] okay?

[00:54:47] He's like a looks maxer.

[00:54:51] So he goes around telling manipulatable teenage boys to mug other guys and how to look max,

[00:55:02] right?

[00:55:04] And that's what he got really big from and he got really, really, really big, like massive

[00:55:10] from it.

[00:55:11] Okay.

[00:55:12] For the past like a few months, he's been really, really, really big.

[00:55:15] Kind of like Andrew Tate audience, but instead of telling guys that women are trash, he's

[00:55:20] telling guys to take steroids in math.

[00:55:26] Maybe he didn't explicitly say, take math, but he takes math kind of implies it.

[00:55:33] But yeah, he's got really big.

[00:55:35] Anyways, he's been streaming for a while.

[00:55:43] The other day,

[00:55:46] a Baza, thank you!

[00:55:48] Thank you, absolutely beautiful today.

[00:55:50] Red Heart Emoji, Red Heart Emoji.

[00:55:52] Red Heart Emoji.

[00:55:53] Red Heart Emoji, Kissing Face Emoji,

[00:55:55] Kissing Face Emoji, Kissing Face Emoji.

[00:55:59] Thank you, Baza.

[00:56:00] A stream sniper jumped on his car and he accidentally ran him over and killed him.

[00:56:11] So yeah, I think he's in for the hunt.

[00:56:13] I just want to say that you are an amazing person and I am so glad that we have crossed paths.

[00:56:19] You're funny, smart and full of good person.

[00:56:22] Never stop being the CX we all love and respect.

[00:56:26] I can read in the future.

[00:56:28] Yeah, I mean I'm accidentally he did it on purpose. Well, he was so something that happened to the meth head

[00:56:37] So who could have predicted? Yeah, I mean I feel like I feel like when you have

[00:56:43] steroids and meth in you then you I mean the first thing he said on stream by

[00:56:49] the on stream the first thing that he said after he ran the guy over is is

[00:56:54] is he dead, hopefully?

[00:56:57] So, yeah, I mean, I think that's the end of him.

[00:57:01] I genuinely, genuinely believe he could have been

[00:57:04] nearly as big, if not as big as Andrew Tate.

[00:57:08] Like he blew up and then did that.

[00:57:11] So, I think it's over.

[00:57:14] Honestly, for a little bit,

[00:57:15] I thought that he was probably gonna get away with it

[00:57:17] because he's got a ton of money

[00:57:20] and some people with a ton of money just do that.

[00:57:22] But yeah, it's bro, it's not staged.

[00:57:26] What?

[00:57:28] Okay, I understand things being staged like fake robberies.

[00:57:32] Bro, did not stage that, okay, what?

[00:57:39] Sorry, yeah.

[00:57:40] But yeah, I mean, I'm assuming

[00:57:43] that he's just gonna go to jail, right?

[00:57:45] Surely he is going to go to jail.

[00:57:46] I feel like you don't accidentally kill someone,

[00:57:49] say hopefully that dad,

[00:57:50] and then like, no, like he's gonna go to jail.

[00:57:55] Yeah, how can you be sure?

[00:57:58] Guys, I am very different side of Twitch.

[00:58:04] I don't know the difference between jail and prison.

[00:58:08] So maybe I meant prison.

[00:58:09] I did, I pfft, guys, how would I know the difference

[00:58:14] between jail and prison?

[00:58:15] Okay, I am on a, not, had that experience?

[00:58:20] So, how would I know?

[00:58:23] You are getting clipped up to be farmed by his community so hard right now.

[00:58:29] Yeah, my bad.

[00:58:31] Honestly, I feel like I'm not.

[00:58:32] Like, how many streamers do you think that is so much bigger and more relevant than

[00:58:37] me have had the take of?

[00:58:39] I think if you accidentally kill someone, say, hopefully their dad, then you're going

[00:58:47] to prison.

[00:58:48] Surely I'm not the first person to have said that, so he didn't die. Wait, oh, I thought

[00:58:55] he did. I thought he did. More relevant than you, don't know any streamers. Chat, apparently

[00:59:03] this week we will talk female streamer in England. I would just like to say thank you

[00:59:09] very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very much for

[00:59:12] that. Thank you. You can't do more. You can't do more than a year in jail? They have to send

[00:59:20] you to prison for longer than that sentence. There was that same day a Tik Toker who ran

[00:59:25] over a person and that one died, I think. Aha. What's better? Hypothetically asking

[00:59:34] for a friend. Not that I would like to go to either, but just hypothetically. What

[00:59:39] is about a jail or prison?

[00:59:44] Oh, is jail is jail the one that

[00:59:48] the people go to when they're like

[00:59:50] waiting to go to prison?

[00:59:52] Bro, neither is not an answer.

[00:59:56] Would you rather get stabbed in the

[00:59:58] stomach or stabbed in the arm?

[01:00:00] Neither.

[01:00:01] No, bro, you'd rather get stabbed

[01:00:03] in the arm. What do you mean?

[01:00:05] Okay, don't say both.

[01:00:07] Don't say that either.

[01:00:09] You know what, asking for a friend.

[01:00:14] Can we watch the new orange, the new black on the stream?

[01:00:18] Oh my gosh, I remember, I absolutely banished that.

[01:00:20] Okay, asking for a friend again, the new stranger things, yeah and ah.

[01:00:26] See, I feel like there's been so many seasons of stranger things that I can't really

[01:00:30] start it now.

[01:00:31] Nah, wait, that's so many nars.

[01:00:35] That's so many NAS, really?

[01:00:40] Bored after the second season.

[01:00:46] No, I watched like two, like episode one and two of season one of Stranger Things and

[01:00:51] then I can't remember what happened.

[01:00:52] I just didn't end up watching it.

[01:00:53] And then I'm like, I feel like I have a big commitment to start now.

[01:00:55] Actually, can I double the stabbing in Passit to CXP Poe Bluff?

[01:00:58] No, you can't.

[01:01:00] It's actually worse to go to an asylum than prison about, and people who have committed

[01:01:08] murder plead insane to get out of prison, thinking they get better treatment.

[01:01:13] Right, so what you're telling me is if I ever end up doing something crazy, don't plead

[01:01:21] that I'm insane.

[01:01:22] Okay, I won't do that.

[01:01:24] So if I was good to go to prison, I know I've asked this before, but if I was

[01:01:28] going to get to prison? What do you think that I would get to prison for? What what what would I go for?

[01:01:40] What, literally why do people say taxes? I have said multiple times on stream I literally

[01:01:45] don't even mind paying taxes. So many people could try about crap taxes I legit don't even mind paying

[01:01:51] taxes. Out of everyone that okay you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna treat that then as you

[01:01:57] You guys think that I would never go to prison.

[01:01:59] Kidnapping.

[01:02:01] Kidnapping the dog.

[01:02:03] I think my mom would report me to the police

[01:02:05] if I kidnapped her dog.

[01:02:07] I think she would.

[01:02:10] Stabbing incidents in London.

[01:02:16] Right?

[01:02:17] You think it would be from what sort of me?

[01:02:19] Chad, what does sort of me mean?

[01:02:23] Ratcloth something, driving or carrying a sword?

[01:02:28] What?

[01:02:30] Chat, when I go to America,

[01:02:31] y'all are not, should I get a taser?

[01:02:34] But then what if I get scared

[01:02:35] of someone coming around the corner at night

[01:02:36] and accidentally taser them?

[01:02:39] Should I, wait, am I allowed to get a taser?

[01:02:43] I think I am, right?

[01:02:44] I think I pretty lack some tasers, right?

[01:02:48] Yes, you think I should?

[01:02:50] Okay, as a former-

[01:02:52] I have never heard somebody with such a desire to buy a taser

[01:02:55] I just think it's cool and I'm gonna be powerful

[01:03:00] I can't buy a gun, can't buy a gun

[01:03:02] I am a foreign citizen and my visa I do not think allows me to

[01:03:08] Not that I would trust myself with a gun even though I was allowed to

[01:03:12] But do you think the foreigners are allowed a taser?

[01:03:15] I reckon I am

[01:03:17] I reckon I am

[01:03:19] I don't know why they sell them though

[01:03:20] Did they like sell them and that's all it has is they don't like go to jail or prison for tax evasion, serial heartbreaker, rage beta, fire emergency service abuser, life insurance scam, general public endangerment.

[01:03:37] Wow, you didn't have to put that list here, right?

[01:03:39] When you stream a court case after you accidentally tase a police officer, child or old person by mistake, buy yourself an M16.

[01:03:48] I have

[01:03:50] Www reflexes as you guys have seen from every single game we've ever played I would never

[01:03:57] Realistically accidentally pay someone okay my reflexes guys. It's like I'm living in Sloymoor. Okay. I'm 16 guys

[01:04:04] I can't buy a gun

[01:04:06] I'm a foreign citizen as I will always stay maybe look into California laws first

[01:04:12] California can be pretty strict on things like that

[01:04:15] But the U.S. citizen would be fine but not sure about foreigners.

[01:04:19] Yes, I am just a foreigner.

[01:04:21] Small knives are allowed in most states plus they are a handy tool to have when opening plastic food packaging.

[01:04:28] Right, so I will bring around a small knife just in case.

[01:04:32] No, okay, I feel like I feel so much more powerful with a taser than with a small knife.

[01:04:36] Not that I would be abusing my power going around tasing innocent civilians,

[01:04:41] saying, if I were to abuse my power, I feel much more powerful with a taser. Okay, I feel

[01:04:49] like with a small knife, it's much more violent and clear. I don't think yeah. It's not the

[01:04:57] same. It's not the same. Going around Hollywood Boulevard with a butter knife, get a stun gun,

[01:05:05] a stun gun. Oh my gosh, wait hold on. Are those those guns that you see in movies and

[01:05:09] They'd like do to animals where like there's like a little dart.

[01:05:13] Oh my gosh, should I go around darting people?

[01:05:17] And then it takes them a few seconds and then they like fall over.

[01:05:21] No, because like if something scary happens you need them like bing bang boom to there and that.

[01:05:26] Grenade, do you want me to get a grenade?

[01:05:29] It's not that difficult. Almost anyone can operate an M16.

[01:05:35] M16, let me just remind myself of what this is. M...

[01:05:39] M16

[01:05:43] Brute

[01:05:45] Brute

[01:05:46] I can't buy a gun

[01:05:50] I I'm not allowed a gun

[01:05:53] That um, do you think I could just you know puv halson halson sunny uh, I asked her but for close-up

[01:06:01] So would it be this would it be the same vibes if I had had this on my belt?

[01:06:06] Like we're just going along

[01:06:08] bathing in the pretty sun and heat on the beach and this is strapped strapped to

[01:06:15] me a stun gun like a taser but for close-up wait oh what's the range on a

[01:06:22] taser but why would you why would you limit yourself with a stun gun when

[01:06:27] you can have a taser surely surely you're doing what the most powerful thing

[01:06:33] you get right? Buy a Draco. What is a Draco? Drate, Drate, Draco. Is it even gonna come

[01:06:41] up and make you go search? Draco. Refers to several components.

[01:06:47] You could always give them a purple nipple and run for your life up.

[01:06:52] What's a purple nipple? What does that mean? Wait, hold on, is that a hickey?

[01:07:01] What? Let's just sit- wait hold on, hot purple.

[01:07:06] We have guns that shoot balls filled with hot spicy eye-burning pepper powder.

[01:07:11] Non-lethal.

[01:07:12] Purple-nurple.

[01:07:18] Guys, what is it?

[01:07:19] And what about a desert eagle?

[01:07:31] The flowers too sharply pinching someone's nipple and twisting violently.

[01:07:51] Don't save me and who?

[01:08:04] For the record, you will be able to buy small tasers, stun guns and pepper spray from most

[01:08:16] Grocery stores in the u.s. And yes, they are usually near the guns just ask someone before you buy

[01:08:24] Ask someone you haven't thought this through what am i asking in a country where there are literally more guns than people

[01:08:31] Even if you pull the trigger first the shock will contract the muscles in the attackers finger causing them to fire

[01:08:37] Right.

[01:08:38] Ligia, M16s are illegal in the US to own, unless you have a tax stamp to go through but ground

[01:08:49] checks and the gun has to be made before 1986.

[01:08:52] Why is Brawbro recommending me illegal, illegal guns?

[01:08:58] Okay, I'm walking around with a Draco, I don't even know what that is.

[01:09:05] An M16 illegal gun?

[01:09:09] Machine gun? Why not?

[01:09:10] They sell big taser gloves at a gas station nearby Lydia of Happy.

[01:09:16] Great.

[01:09:18] Nearby what?

[01:09:22] Are you ready?

[01:09:23] Pause his hype.

[01:09:25] Lydia get a tank WW Pet Olivia also free parking.

[01:09:29] Oh! You're so right. He had a tank.

[01:09:32] But I feel like I can't get like a loaded tank, right?

[01:09:37] I feel like I feel like finding ammo for my tank is a little hard.

[01:09:40] You can buy it in US by hunting license, even for your visa.

[01:09:44] Uh-huh. Yeah, but then I can't walk around with the uh, hiking gun, right?

[01:09:48] No, you already have two million gold weapon, Lydia. You're two noodle arms up.

[01:09:53] I don't trust people that say give them a pepper.

[01:09:55] I have a G95.

[01:09:58] Right.

[01:09:59] Are you recommending the Tiger G95?

[01:10:01] Just to specify again, I'm not allowed a gun.

[01:10:06] I will not be having a gun.

[01:10:09] This is going to be you.

[01:10:10] OK.

[01:10:10] That looked like it hurt so much!

[01:10:31] I didn't cut him out saying, are you okay?

[01:10:37] That was not okay! That was a serious concussion. That would not mean anything, by the way.

[01:10:44] So how do you stop that from happening? Just be ready for it?

[01:10:50] Yeah, recoil won't be a thing when I'm shooting, okay? I won't need to adjust for the recoil.

[01:10:57] Let's just say. Let's just say. I'm strong! Wait, is that is recoil really just about how strong your arms are?

[01:11:05] Okay, then we won't have any problems, right?

[01:11:07] On that night, okay.

[01:11:14] Jack?

[01:11:17] Would you, um...

[01:11:22] Hold on.

[01:11:23] Let me...

[01:11:24] Oh, guys, there's so much stuff I want to talk about.

[01:11:26] What about we claim floofy to a guard dog and people shy?

[01:11:29] We love floofy people, love.

[01:11:33] My mom's already done that.

[01:11:34] So you can't buy a gun, you can buy a bulldozer, metal plates, and a welder though.

[01:11:40] Those who know.

[01:11:43] What can you do with a bulldozer, metal plates and a welder?

[01:11:49] Yes, a foreigner can generally own a taser in California, as tasers are not classified as firearms.

[01:11:56] There are restrictions on firearm possession for non-immigrant aliens do not apply to tasers.

[01:12:01] So, you should be okay to unwind.

[01:12:04] He's already a god dog, until you see him, okay?

[01:12:07] Just because you saw him in our wholesome, nice, loving manner, okay?

[01:12:14] He pinned the Amazon delivery driver up against the wall, okay?

[01:12:19] And I go, isn't that bad to my mom?

[01:12:22] And my mom goes, no.

[01:12:25] I didn't want to tell him that he wasn't harmless.

[01:12:28] case. Bro, what if we pinned the Amazon delivery driver against the wall and my mom doesn't

[01:12:42] even say he's okay, he's fine. She just takes the package.

[01:12:48] Anyways, um, sorry.

[01:12:53] Yeah, I mean, I mean, um, uh, I mean, if Fluffy like, you know, Fluffy just doesn't like men.

[01:13:02] Like, I actually don't know how my mom's done it.

[01:13:06] Like my step-dad lives with him, but like, I mean, he doesn't not like my step-dad,

[01:13:09] but he just like, loves women.

[01:13:13] If I don't know a delivery man, like when I'm in the lobby, right, okay, then there's

[01:13:20] males and females in the lobby, okay, and he'll like say hello to the females, he will

[01:13:24] completely ignore the males, okay, if a male asks to pet him, he will hate it, he will

[01:13:29] hate it, okay, but if a kind, nice old lady goes to pet him, he'll roll over on his

[01:13:34] back, he'll stick his little paw up, he does like the paw thing where he wants

[01:13:39] Do you feel like roll him over?

[01:13:41] Yeah, yeah, um...

[01:13:43] Anyway, yeah...

[01:13:45] TODAY!

[01:13:51] TODAY!

[01:13:53] We are doing debate!

[01:13:55] Lizzie, you are a girly pop in LA.

[01:13:57] You must have a self-defense weapon.

[01:13:59] This is serious and non-negotiable talk.

[01:14:01] Honestly, it was the safest, best place I've ever been

[01:14:05] when I went.

[01:14:07] I really don't get the stigma, I just don't get the stigma.

[01:14:09] It depends where you go.

[01:14:11] I'm sorry no!

[01:14:12] Thank you so much!

[01:14:14] And let you get done!

[01:14:16] Thank you so much, thank you, thank you, thank you.

[01:14:18] Um, we are doing debates.

[01:14:21] If you have a hot topic that you would like to come on a date-

[01:14:25] I never really had a chance to say how are you.

[01:14:29] Thanks, feet.

[01:14:32] I'm good feet.

[01:14:34] How are your feet?

[01:14:35] Feet.

[01:14:36] If you have a hot topic that you would like to come on to debate, okay, a controversial

[01:14:44] opinion that you would like to debate with me today, then please make your way to the

[01:14:50] Discord voice chat.

[01:14:52] I repeat, the Discord voice chat is the one that everyone is in.

[01:14:58] I have been looking through, there's like a, like a debate, um, uh, like suggestions on

[01:15:06] the discord, right?

[01:15:07] Okay.

[01:15:08] And, um, bro, I was looking through, there's actually some bang, a lens in it, there are

[01:15:16] some ba- millennials were and are more cringe than zoomers, okay.

[01:15:24] Um, Taylor Swift's new album, good on that everything, every AI video needs some form

[01:15:34] of a watermark.

[01:15:37] Should people go to Twitch for next year?

[01:15:39] British rap is better than American.

[01:15:41] Bro, these are bangers.

[01:15:43] Should dog collars be banned?

[01:15:48] You know dog collars are actually illegal in England.

[01:15:50] I'm pretty sure.

[01:15:52] But yeah, there are some like hella good ones there.

[01:15:57] So if you aren't sure what your controversial opinion is, which is crazy, that's crazy that

[01:16:02] you post crazy ads.

[01:16:03] I could, I could controversial opinion forever, but there are some really, really good ones

[01:16:10] and suggested debate topic VC, suggestions debate, you know what I mean?

[01:16:18] If one of the moody's could blink it, it's hard to explain how to get that if someone

[01:16:26] could blink it.

[01:16:27] You can cool them.

[01:16:28] Oh, if you got explanation on topic.

[01:16:31] Yeah, actually thank you very much.

[01:16:37] My whole setup just fell apart, my bad.

[01:16:39] Okay.

[01:16:40] Okay.

[01:16:41] Okay.

[01:16:42] Okay.

[01:16:45] Oh, chat, I actually had so much to yap about,

[01:16:47] but we're running out of time,

[01:16:48] and I had an auto shutdown timer,

[01:16:50] because, oh, sorry, I didn't realize that moved,

[01:16:54] immersion ruined.

[01:16:56] I had an auto shutdown timer today,

[01:16:58] because I've been really out of routine,

[01:17:00] and I didn't want to have an auto shutdown for quistmas,

[01:17:03] and then I became a generate,

[01:17:05] so now I'm back in routine.

[01:17:09] So I think I'm gonna have to save the yap.

[01:17:12] degenerate. I was a degenerate. But now I'm back in routine.

[01:17:18] What is today's goal to get McDonald's after stream pauses high people left spinning?

[01:17:23] Well, I always do. If I get a thousand followers in a stream, I get McDonald's. But there's

[01:17:29] no way we're reaching a thousand followers in a stream. A thousand followers in a stream,

[01:17:33] I normally have to do like a seven hour stream. This is not a seven hour stream because

[01:17:38] of water shut down so it's pretty opposable I mean if everyone not following

[01:17:43] followed right now if every single person watching right now who isn't

[01:17:51] following followed then it would work

[01:17:58] begging for followers bro it's free okay and it makes me really happy okay it's

[01:18:05] It's Fwee99 and it makes me really happy.

[01:18:09] Thank you!

[01:18:10] Thank you!

[01:18:11] Thank you!

[01:18:12] Thank you!

[01:18:13] We want to walk down.

[01:18:14] Thank you!

[01:18:15] Thank you!

[01:18:16] Thank you!

[01:18:17] Thank you!

[01:18:18] Thank you!

[01:18:19] Thank you!

[01:18:20] Thank you!

[01:18:21] Okay, um, right, let me start.

[01:18:24] Let me go in this VC and see what's poppin', what's poppin'.

[01:18:28] Okay, actually, let me get it up so everyone knows.

[01:18:33] Let me not use that choice of words.

[01:18:35] Let me pop up the channel.

[01:18:41] So everyone knows where to go.

[01:18:45] This is me popping up the channel.

[01:18:56] Okay, there we go.

[01:18:57] Okay. Anyone can debate.

[01:19:00] All you have to do is go to the Discord and join the CC.

[01:19:05] And have a working mic.

[01:19:07] That would be much appreciated if your mic could be working.

[01:19:13] That is rare these days, actually.

[01:19:16] So, what's that?

[01:19:21] Okay, so is this an okay size

[01:19:23] or is this gonna agitate you?

[01:19:30] This is no case size.

[01:19:33] I'm not a man, thank you.

[01:19:36] Okay. Okay, is this less agitating?

[01:19:40] Okay.

[01:19:41] Ooh!

[01:19:42] Norsi!

[01:19:44] Are you...

[01:19:45] Norsi?

[01:19:47] Um...

[01:19:49] Wait...

[01:19:50] Uh...

[01:19:52] Can I...

[01:19:53] Wait, hold on.

[01:19:54] Would you be able to drink the first person?

[01:19:57] I just realized you want that, so it's RNG, but that's okay.

[01:20:01] I'm tiered, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

[01:20:10] Hello?

[01:20:11] Sorry, I was on mute.

[01:20:13] Hello again?

[01:20:14] You were also on mute.

[01:20:16] Okay.

[01:20:17] He left.

[01:20:22] Knees, dots, knees, dots.

[01:20:25] What a Pog name! Hello Kneesdots!

[01:20:29] Hello Kneesdots!

[01:20:31] How are you doing my guy? You're on mute by the way.

[01:20:38] Hello?

[01:20:39] Hello Kneesdots!

[01:20:41] Yo.

[01:20:42] That's a really cool, original name. Good play on words, hey?

[01:20:47] Hello.

[01:20:49] Hello!

[01:20:52] Kneesdots!

[01:20:53] Hello.

[01:20:54] Well, oh, oh, oh, that's an echo.

[01:20:58] You got these dots, did you know?

[01:21:00] Oh, OK, do you know how to undo the echo?

[01:21:06] Let me find a mic.

[01:21:11] Appreciate it, appreciate it.

[01:21:13] Oh.

[01:21:16] Is he coming back?

[01:21:23] Well.

[01:21:24] It's okay Chad, it's the warm up, it's the warm up.

[01:21:28] Microphones can be tricky.

[01:21:32] It's fine, I'm sure he'll be back.

[01:21:36] But if you said we die if we lose, yeah true.

[01:21:40] Technically those people haven't answered, but

[01:21:44] well, I mean, technically also you die if you

[01:21:48] don't lose as well. We'll see.

[01:21:52] We'll see at most

[01:21:55] But you definitely die you definitely I can confirm that you die if you do lose I can confirm that um

[01:22:02] Hello, how you doing?

[01:22:05] Cake is a virtue hello Farrah

[01:22:16] Farrah, okay, no see give me give me drugs

[01:22:22] Could we drag someone else in?

[01:22:27] They're all dying.

[01:22:28] I actually have a really good debate topic about Christmas, but I'm not quite ready to debate it today.

[01:22:34] So I guess it will have to wait for another day fruit sign.

[01:22:38] WV! Hello WV, how you doing?

[01:22:44] Hello, can you hear me?

[01:22:46] WV, don't tell me that you have- you have my ca-

[01:22:48] You can hear me. I can hear you. You can hear me, right?

[01:22:52] You can hear me. I can hear you. You can hear me, right?

[01:22:54] Wait, you can hear me?

[01:22:56] Your mic is really bad. I can only hear you through stream.

[01:23:00] There's something wrong with your Discord settings.

[01:23:03] Wait, hold on! Is there something wrong with my Discord settings?

[01:23:09] Yeah, you're just... I'm just hearing some really weird echo from you.

[01:23:14] from you like I hear a little bit of music when I listen in the stream I hear everything you're saying

[01:23:21] but I think I think there's something that you're my promise you're not trolling promise

[01:23:29] promise you're not trolling no I'm serious like I want to hear you and I'll say okay okay

[01:23:39] Okay, what about, um, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, okay, what about this, what about now?

[01:23:47] Not works, not works.

[01:23:49] That works?

[01:23:50] Yeah.

[01:23:51] Oh my gosh!

[01:23:52] My bad!

[01:23:53] It was my fault all along, sorry about that, sorry about that.

[01:23:55] Um, well, um, WV, um, how you do it, how you do it?

[01:23:59] Oh, I'm all right, yeah.

[01:24:01] I mean, um, is there anything, is there anything all right during the Christmas season?

[01:24:08] isn't this the time to be sad and lonely?

[01:24:17] Yeah.

[01:24:18] Yeah, I think there are awesome people that are all right.

[01:24:27] Are you trying to form chat being sad?

[01:24:30] Yeah, I'm trying to relate to chat.

[01:24:34] You guys relate, right?

[01:24:37] Well, you can be lonely, wait, hold on, you can be lonely, you can be lonely, but not

[01:24:44] alone, and you can be alone, but not lonely, well, it's all about that, it's all about

[01:24:52] that good mental in it.

[01:24:55] Yeah.

[01:24:56] So, WV, what have you come to debate about today?

[01:25:02] Okay, my hot take is that miners and 118 should not be allowed on the internet with the exception of being able to access clearly educational content like Wikipedia.

[01:25:22] What?

[01:25:27] Bra.

[01:25:30] 18?

[01:25:32] Yeah.

[01:25:35] What?

[01:25:39] Bro, that's old.

[01:25:44] What? People are saying true.

[01:25:47] What? Make it 21.

[01:25:52] That's crazy. So unbelievably, completely disagree. Why do you believe that?

[01:26:01] Well, we don't allow people under 18 to get tattoos. And tattoos only affect your body.

[01:26:08] Being exposed to the internet, it affects your mind, possibly permanently.

[01:26:15] And we're only now starting to see the effects of it.

[01:26:22] So we're running an experiment on an entire generation of children not knowing how it's going to end.

[01:26:29] Because only now are people, you know, growing up who have had like complete saturation on the internet from a very young age.

[01:26:38] And we already see that there are clearly some long-term effects.

[01:26:43] People's attention span are reducing and they have body dysmorphia.

[01:26:51] They don't think that they're too fat or don't have muscles big enough.

[01:26:56] And just in general, there's so much harmful content.

[01:27:01] I think team suicide rates are at an all-time high.

[01:27:06] So, I really don't think that at least until we figure out exactly what's going on and

[01:27:14] how to safeguard against harms of social media and other forms of internet exposure, we should

[01:27:24] take a break and protect our most vulnerable and our children from it.

[01:27:29] Okay.

[01:27:30] I so strongly cannot disagree more.

[01:27:35] I so strongly cannot disagreeable.

[01:27:37] I really, really, really, really, really think

[01:27:39] it's a bad idea.

[01:27:42] Not allowing you to learn about the internet

[01:27:46] until you're an adult when you have so much.

[01:27:50] OK, for example, it's like when you're a kid, OK,

[01:27:53] you do dumb stuff on the internet, OK,

[01:27:54] because you're learning.

[01:27:56] OK, you do silly things, but you

[01:27:57] don't have as much to lose.

[01:27:58] And you don't have bank accounts and set up

[01:28:01] all these things, right?

[01:28:02] And get baited.

[01:28:03] It's like, there are a lot of people that I see

[01:28:08] that get bathed by my zero follower,

[01:28:12] Lydia Violet fake accounts that aren't me, right?

[01:28:16] Why do they get bathed?

[01:28:17] Because they just, they don't understand the internet fully,

[01:28:21] right?

[01:28:21] It's not about being young, it's about understanding.

[01:28:26] It's like, you look at grandparents

[01:28:28] and they're vulnerable to the internet.

[01:28:30] Why?

[01:28:30] like why are elderly people vulnerable to the internet?

[01:28:33] Because they haven't learned.

[01:28:35] You need to learn about these things.

[01:28:36] It's not an age thing.

[01:28:38] You can learn at four years old,

[01:28:39] or you can learn at 18 years old.

[01:28:41] You need to learn.

[01:28:42] But if you learn at 18 years old,

[01:28:44] you probably have a lot more to lose,

[01:28:48] and a lot more spending power and da da da da

[01:28:51] than if you learn about what not to do

[01:28:54] when you're at a young age.

[01:28:56] It's like, the longer you're on the internet,

[01:28:59] the more you learn.

[01:28:59] like a band in Australia, crazy! Oh my gosh! They banned social media in Australia for under

[01:29:06] 18s. In my personal opinion, so bad, okay? Because it's not like it's gonna affect people

[01:29:15] less. It's just gonna affect people later. They're still gonna go through exactly the

[01:29:19] same things. They're just gonna go through the same things later. You still need to

[01:29:23] learn about social media. You still go through everything just later in life.

[01:29:29] Like for example, okay, sorry, how do I say this like, okay, how do I say this like for example, right like I

[01:29:39] Know a lot of girly pops

[01:29:43] With

[01:29:47] Paid to use web paid paid websites, okay, I

[01:29:54] Have friends that have paid to use websites, okay, and

[01:29:59] and I think that's fair enough. You do you and I think that's fair enough and I would never judge anyone.

[01:30:06] But I think that it is not good to say that you are messaging people and get people to pay

[01:30:16] to message you when it's not you that's messaging. It's like some guy in India that's messaging

[01:30:22] And I have in every single, I don't know, 100 girls that I've ever met.

[01:30:27] I've never had a girl who is actually messaging.

[01:30:31] They just get their agency to message for them.

[01:30:34] And, you know, at some point that will be illegal.

[01:30:36] But I feel like 99% of people know that they're not paying to message the girl.

[01:30:42] Like 99% of people get that.

[01:30:43] But there is a vulnerable 1% that doesn't know because they haven't

[01:30:47] been exposed to the internet for long enough.

[01:30:48] They don't understand.

[01:30:50] And they might be coming to the internet as an adult,

[01:30:53] like as a boomer probably.

[01:30:55] I'm assuming it's boomers that like a majority of people

[01:30:58] paying for messages, not understanding the internet.

[01:31:02] And as a result, not understanding how it works,

[01:31:05] they have money and like not the experience.

[01:31:09] So then they like, you know what I mean?

[01:31:13] They have a lot more to lose because they're paying

[01:31:16] for a lie versus if they just learnt that information

[01:31:20] at a younger age when they didn't have as much to lose.

[01:31:23] In my opinion.

[01:31:24] But that's just one example.

[01:31:25] I've had so many examples.

[01:31:28] So I've noticed you've kind of zeroed in on scams

[01:31:31] on the internet.

[01:31:32] I would honestly say that's the smallest concern that I have.

[01:31:36] It's not about learning about the internet.

[01:31:39] It's about what the internet teaches you about life

[01:31:43] and about you.

[01:31:44] And we actually know, for example,

[01:31:47] you think that having early exposure to the internet

[01:31:50] will inoculate you from harm, right?

[01:31:53] I don't know what that word means, W.

[01:31:56] It's like, you know, vaccinate.

[01:31:59] You want to teach you not to be harmed later, right?

[01:32:03] Whereas for me, I'm more concerned

[01:32:05] about how, during that critical age,

[01:32:09] when you're developing and learning about the world,

[01:32:12] that you actually are going to learn all these sorts

[01:32:16] things, right? Some of them may come in handy, like, I don't know, not getting

[01:32:22] scammed. But you're also gonna learn that, you know, just from, you know, this is a

[01:32:28] well-documented phenomenon, especially if you're a teen girl, just from browsing,

[01:32:32] just from scrolling to Instagram, you're gonna learn that, you know, people

[01:32:37] need to look a certain way, you're gonna learn that people need to talk a

[01:32:40] a certain way and I just feel like actually it would be a lot better if during this formative

[01:32:48] period people were – and by the way, this is all like predatory content in a sense because

[01:32:55] it's all ultimately meant to like sell something, to sell a product that will then make you

[01:33:01] If you look at Veride and it's just creating so many body image issues, Facebook, they just

[01:33:12] recently, there was this news article that they read which I thought was absolutely horrifying.

[01:33:20] They feel like they no longer have the same kind of engagement among teen audiences that

[01:33:26] they used to have a few years ago. And now they've refurbished their entire office to

[01:33:32] look more like it's a space for teens. And they want their employees to get more in the

[01:33:37] mindset of teens to figure out how to make Instagram addictive for them again. So like

[01:33:44] these companies, these algorithms, Instagram addictive. I feel like Instagram is like

[01:33:51] I don't know, I've never known a volleyball that's scrolled in scrim reels, sorry, Sidon.

[01:33:58] I mean, are you serious, I mean, this is a pretty well documented phenomenon that...

[01:34:07] No, no, no, no, I mean, obviously, they scroll with it, socials as well.

[01:34:11] I just, I feel like...

[01:34:12] Yeah.

[01:34:13] And that is what these algorithms, they have a profit motive to boost maximum engagement.

[01:34:20] engagement and like they literally hire psychologists to figure out how to make this thing as addictive as possible.

[01:34:27] Like other addictive substances we obviously do not allow children, not even adults to have access to and now we are going to

[01:34:36] you know let kids, from a very early age, you know, six, seven years old, go on social media and form all these

[01:34:44] harmful views of the world they're gonna be stuck with like it's not like when

[01:34:49] they become an adult suddenly it's all gonna become obvious to them that it

[01:34:53] was all wrong right they're gonna continue with these beliefs wouldn't

[01:34:56] it be better instead if you know until the age of 18 they have a healthy

[01:35:03] education from from their parents and their school and not from social media

[01:35:07] you know the people who want them the best instead of the people who want

[01:35:11] make money from them. Okay, I agree with your point about addiction. Yeah, I don't

[01:35:17] think that kids should be exposed to it because it's addictive. But on your point

[01:35:21] about comparing, I think it is important to learn, okay, that you should not base

[01:35:28] your happiness on comparing yourself to other people, right? That is just

[01:35:32] something that you need to understand in life as a kid or an adult, right?

[01:35:37] Because it's like the kind of people that are getting sad because they see

[01:35:40] pretty girls on the internet are the same people that are seeing people in

[01:35:45] real life and comparing themselves to other people and what they're not sad

[01:35:48] because people in real life aren't pretty like that's not that's not like the

[01:35:52] solution that's not like the fix like great like the like oh I'm comparing

[01:35:57] myself to people in real life but it's okay because like yeah but then but then

[01:36:03] I'm seeing some on the internet and like just you need to learn not to

[01:36:06] compare yourself to people. Like, like, if you, if you, I don't know, art school, okay,

[01:36:14] and you think you're getting good grades, okay, because you're getting good grades in comparison

[01:36:17] to the people at your school, right? Okay, and then you go online, and you see, like,

[01:36:21] the top school in the entire country, and you're like, wait, this person is 13, and

[01:36:25] they're already getting all the top grades in their GCSEs, which you don't do until

[01:36:28] you're 16, right? There are people like that, whether you see them or not. And

[01:36:34] it's just something that you need to learn.

[01:36:36] Like, there are always gonna be insane people in the world.

[01:36:41] You need to just not, like, you need to get out of the mindset

[01:36:46] of comparing yourself to other people.

[01:36:47] Like, just not seeing people that are doing well

[01:36:50] is a crutch.

[01:36:52] The kind of people that compare themselves, compare themselves.

[01:36:56] Well, okay.

[01:36:57] So first of all,

[01:36:58] into your worldview that you gain from real life experiences. Like in real life

[01:37:06] you don't see a particular subset of people you see everyone and you know

[01:37:12] you don't just see them, you talk to them, you have a much wider breadth of

[01:37:18] experiences, you get much more normal you know development that you know the

[01:37:23] human mind has evolved over millions of years to, you know, grow up with certain kind of

[01:37:31] stimuli. And now we've replaced that with this radical new experiment, right, that we

[01:37:37] don't, we're not quite sure where it's leading to. And I don't agree with your point that,

[01:37:45] you know, yes, there are incredible people in the real world that you can compare yourself

[01:37:52] do, but they're not algorithmically, you're not, when you're working through the real world,

[01:38:01] you're not like, your experience is not algorithmically programmed to boost engagement, to see the same

[01:38:08] thing over and over again, like carefully curated, meant to sell you something.

[01:38:16] And also when you're just walking through real life and experiencing these people, you're

[01:38:22] not scrolling through them in a way you're not going endlessly.

[01:38:26] Yeah, but you should be comparing yourself to the people.

[01:38:29] And regardless of whether you're comparing yourself to people like this is deeper than

[01:38:34] that.

[01:38:35] It's not just about comparing yourself to people.

[01:38:36] There's no one that compares to the world in a different way, you're just endlessly

[01:38:44] Scrawling through low attentions and

[01:38:49] You're seeing a much broader and bigger range of perspectives and opinions than you would but like it's like oh my gosh

[01:38:57] I feel like my breadth of

[01:38:59] Life null like my breadth of like how many different people that are in the world has so expanded since I started streaming

[01:39:06] Compared to like what it was before I was doing obviously before I was streaming, right?

[01:39:11] Okay, I would be like like oh everyone in the world lives like they obviously I wasn't like everyone in the world lives in England

[01:39:17] But like people that lived in other countries were just like

[01:39:23] They were just like NPCs that I was never gonna meet

[01:39:27] like they were just like oh like

[01:39:30] Germans German

[01:39:32] And that's that you know what I mean like I'm never gonna meet a German person like I don't know like and then I just

[01:39:38] Move on with all of my life. You know what I mean? It's like now

[01:39:41] in life. I love it so much. Everyone's so connected. I feel like I have friends from all over the

[01:39:46] world and that just boosts your life perspective so much. And it's like, and it's like, if there's

[01:39:52] something that, that I don't know you don't like, okay, about your country or, or stuff like that,

[01:39:59] then you're like, wait, this isn't actually normally, like that's not normally like,

[01:40:03] in other countries, they do this differently or in other cultures, they do things like that.

[01:40:07] It just expands your entire mind, meeting people from like all around the world and different perspectives, as well as people that are really good in particular areas, right?

[01:40:17] It's like, I don't know, a stupid, shallow example, okay?

[01:40:23] But like, for example, I always wanted to grow my hair long. I always wanted to grow my hair long.

[01:40:28] I don't know anyone in my real life, okay, that has long hair.

[01:40:32] But I've always wanted to have long hair, okay?

[01:40:34] But I know a lot of people that have long hair, okay, so I'm I hear what they say

[01:40:44] Spoiler alert. Don't cut your hair

[01:40:46] It's such a weird mess that people like cut their hair to make it grow longer

[01:40:50] But like and they don't cut their hair so I don't cut my hat

[01:40:53] Okay dumb example, but like but like there are lots of people in the internet that might have things or do things that you want

[01:41:01] that you can learn from

[01:41:03] that you couldn't from the people in your real life because they're different.

[01:41:07] So I feel like it adds to a lot of different perspectives and you can learn about things

[01:41:11] that you just wouldn't know because there's no one in your real life like that.

[01:41:15] So in sad point, also people that got bullied or people that don't have friends in real

[01:41:20] life would like back in the day.

[01:41:21] Why do women cut their hair short when they go through break ups?

[01:41:24] I don't know.

[01:41:27] But they just like it.

[01:41:29] But third point, back in the day, like legit, 20 years ago plus, or like 10 years ago plus

[01:41:37] even, okay?

[01:41:38] If someone didn't have friends in school as a kid or as an adult, they just wouldn't

[01:41:43] have friends.

[01:41:45] They wouldn't be able to find the communities of people like they can now online and are

[01:41:51] able to have friends.

[01:41:53] So many kids would get bullied at school and come home to nothing.

[01:41:58] of coming home to a community of people that feels the same and relates and yeah, like

[01:42:04] it's so many people's like life on the internet.

[01:42:08] Okay, so first of all, in regards to learning things on the internet, so the period that

[01:42:16] I'm talking about until you're 18 is already so hugely packed with learning, right, you're

[01:42:22] going to school and you're learning much more important things than how to grow

[01:42:28] out your hair and obviously okay I don't know maybe maybe where you were was

[01:42:33] different I don't remember doing that much learning at school honestly I feel like I had a lot of free time

[01:42:38] maybe because you were distracted by the internet no I wasn't I feel like I

[01:42:47] I feel like, how do I say this?

[01:42:52] As someone that got very good grades at school

[01:42:56] and studied a lot more than other people that I know,

[01:43:02] I would still say more than 50% of my zero to 18 life

[01:43:08] experience was not learning.

[01:43:11] I was not learning at school messing around,

[01:43:15] a lunch time, like, I don't know, vibing, doing handstands on the field, like, playing

[01:43:21] machine monsters. Still, majority of my time as a child was not spent learning. Like, if

[01:43:27] you just, if you only give kids the experience of learning, I don't think that, like, they

[01:43:32] need lots of different skills, including the skill of being able to navigate the internet.

[01:43:37] Okay, the second thing that I would like to address from your many points.

[01:43:44] Also fourth point, WWHGP.

[01:43:47] Your experience of meeting a lot of people around the world thanks to the internet.

[01:43:52] You're talking about content creation, which is very different from content consumption.

[01:43:59] And like for a vast majority of teens that use the internet,

[01:44:03] And like you didn't become a content creator until 18.

[01:44:06] You didn't meet any of these people until you were 18, right?

[01:44:10] So then you...

[01:44:11] I don't need to do content creation to meet these people.

[01:44:14] Most people meet people from different places.

[01:44:17] How many people did you meet before you were 18 on the internet?

[01:44:21] No, but when I was a kid, it was very different.

[01:44:25] When I was a kid, I also didn't follow anyone that wasn't one of my friends.

[01:44:29] now is people follow like

[01:44:32] celebrities and influences and andrew tape and stuff like

[01:44:36] what when i was growing up i only followed my school friends like

[01:44:40] it was different

[01:44:42] no bucket with it i i i was alive at that time

[01:44:46] people

[01:44:47] i'm getting old

[01:44:51] people followed celebrities and uh... influencers back then

[01:44:56] It was a lot rougher than now.

[01:44:58] Right.

[01:44:59] I'm happy for you if you didn't.

[01:45:02] And the thing is, because you didn't and because, you know,

[01:45:09] you had your real friends, right,

[01:45:11] that you got to meet in person and form much deeper

[01:45:15] connections with, right?

[01:45:17] And today's game is.

[01:45:20] Someone said, you're not that old.

[01:45:22] And I'm worried that today's teams, even when they go to schools with a bunch of different

[01:45:32] children, they're getting less and less of that experience.

[01:45:35] I think a lot of data shows that children have fewer real friends.

[01:45:42] A lot of them go to school and they'll scroll through their phone during their lunch break

[01:45:47] instead of meeting other children and they grow up having not made, you know, the connections

[01:45:55] in their brain for healthy social interactions because instead they're going through these

[01:46:02] kind of parasocial one-sided-inducation.

[01:46:04] Okay, but you cannot have phones at school, like we had a phone ban, right?

[01:46:09] So we couldn't have our phones at school.

[01:46:11] I'm not necessarily saying that that was bad.

[01:46:13] So while you're at school, you can socialize in real life with your friends.

[01:46:17] But when you're at home, you can also socialize with your friends, or meet new people from

[01:46:24] around the world, or if you don't have any friends at school, you're still able to have

[01:46:29] friends by having the internet.

[01:46:31] I'm not saying sit on your phone all day at school.

[01:46:35] I don't agree with that.

[01:46:37] So it's interesting then that you strongly disagree with me, but actually your child

[01:46:43] who has been such that you know for you know a significant portion of the day for

[01:46:48] the average and average that you're in school you actually didn't have internet

[01:46:51] yeah because you're saying no internet no internet is very different from not that

[01:46:56] much internet I'm saying I'm not at home having no internet I feel like it's

[01:47:01] completely detrimental it isn't gonna give them the school so they need for

[01:47:05] life like okay so you've already actually gone from strong

[01:47:11] disagreements to kind of meet. No, no, no, no, no, no. I so strongly disagree with you.

[01:47:17] I so strongly disagree with you. Can I just say, so like, I, for example, when I went to school,

[01:47:24] we didn't have any rule against phones, phones at school, right? We were, we were all on our

[01:47:30] phones like little DJs, but I just think that actually, do you think that you would have

[01:47:38] ended up a different person today. For example, you were allowed to bring your phone to school.

[01:47:45] I hated phones at school. So friggin bad because I wasn't allowed like, like all the apps that

[01:47:52] they were allowed. Like I didn't have my iPhone. And then when I did have a phone, I, my parents

[01:47:56] had to approve all the apps I downloaded. So all my friends would be playing on the, like on

[01:48:01] their phones. And I would like just be sadder. And I hated it so much. And the phone ban

[01:48:06] was the best day of my life, which I have said so many times on stream before because I agree

[01:48:12] with the school phone ban, but I so strongly agree that kids should be allowed on the internet

[01:48:15] tool. When they're at home, I think it opens up so many nice things than being allowed there

[01:48:21] for instance.

[01:48:22] So, Lea, you've actually had, like, you had internet access, but your access to the

[01:48:29] internet seems to have been far more constrained than the kind of free-for-all that kids

[01:48:34] are experiencing you know today all over the world right so like if I could go back in time

[01:48:40] if I could go back in time with the knowledge that I know now and I mean just the internet

[01:48:44] is is different than it was 10 years ago like but if I could go back 10 years ago now like

[01:48:49] like I would make so many more friends as a result of the internet like I just didn't

[01:48:54] really know that was a possibility and it wasn't as big of a thing like you couldn't

[01:48:58] make friends through discord servers and through gaming and stuff like I so it wasn't

[01:49:03] a very big thing back in the day to do that.

[01:49:06] So do you think you would have

[01:49:08] had more fulfilling childhood and that you'd be a better person today

[01:49:13] if your parents were more lax and if you had unrestricted access to the internet?

[01:49:19] Yes, oh my gosh, every single day I wish that.

[01:49:21] Every single day I wish that I started playing games at an earlier age,

[01:49:26] my life would be so much easier, I wouldn't get bullied

[01:49:30] every day for my gaming cells, yes.

[01:49:34] And I know it's a niche example, but yeah,

[01:49:38] I think it would help a lot of people.

[01:49:39] I think people that don't happen to make friends at school,

[01:49:42] which is so many people, okay,

[01:49:44] would still be able to have friends.

[01:49:48] I just think that's such a good thing.

[01:49:51] And then like, yeah.

[01:49:53] Do you think that the friendships you formed at school

[01:49:56] that you still continue to this day,

[01:50:00] like, I don't wanna bring up any names,

[01:50:03] but you've had, you know,

[01:50:03] on stream your friend recently, like, right?

[01:50:07] Then you said you were very close friends with her.

[01:50:08] Do you think you would have created those same friendships,

[01:50:11] like the same intensity if you just were

[01:50:17] scrolling through Instagram instead?

[01:50:20] Like...

[01:50:23] But Instagram was a thing.

[01:50:25] You know what you ever, like, I had a best friend.

[01:50:28] I've always been like a very like one person person and I had a best friend in school, right? Okay, and we would call

[01:50:34] Every so we would spend the whole day at school together, right? Okay, and then we will come home

[01:50:38] And we would we would call from the moment we got home until the moment we were too bad

[01:50:43] Such dependent. It was such dependence, but um, but like yeah

[01:50:48] Like scrolling Instagram and like messaging people and like we would just do that on a cool like

[01:50:54] Yeah

[01:50:56] Okay, so here's what

[01:51:00] So in conclusion

[01:51:13] So in conclusion unless unless we have some rebuttals

[01:51:18] It's kind of I'm sorry. I

[01:51:20] It was an interesting

[01:51:22] conversation, but I think we kind of got off track by the fact that we kind of focused on

[01:51:27] like your personal experience, which seems to actually have been very different from

[01:51:32] that of most teens today.

[01:51:36] But I would just say if you look at the stats, teens, attention spans, lower than ever,

[01:51:43] suicide rates, higher than ever, children are doing much worse in schools.

[01:51:51] they do much worse in general knowledge tests.

[01:51:53] Okay, but that's so, no, but that I feel like this is also,

[01:51:57] like, it's like, it could be like correlation,

[01:52:00] not cause, cause, not correlation.

[01:52:03] You know what I mean?

[01:52:03] It could also be that it's like,

[01:52:05] go, if I was in school right now, like, okay, no,

[01:52:07] if you're in school right now,

[01:52:08] you should work really hard, you should work really hard.

[01:52:10] But like, if I was in school right now

[01:52:11] and I saw what was happening with AI,

[01:52:13] ain't no way I'm getting the grades.

[01:52:14] Like, ain't no way I'm putting that time in.

[01:52:16] Like, there are lots of reasons why kids

[01:52:18] could be working less hard at school now.

[01:52:19] like lots of reasons.

[01:52:21] Like it is not just social media,

[01:52:24] which is causing people to work less hard.

[01:52:25] Like I would not be motivated if I was at school right now.

[01:52:28] So it might be cause of correlation,

[01:52:32] but WP, can we have a poll?

[01:52:35] Could I do the poll?

[01:52:37] I think you might win.

[01:52:38] Lots of people agree with you.

[01:52:40] And I'll just like, just ask like one last thing.

[01:52:45] So just like purely, you've been a big biology person, right?

[01:52:50] So like just purely out of caution, like you know how, for example,

[01:52:54] like it is like a totally separate thing.

[01:52:55] But you know how much human health and bodies have changed

[01:52:59] since we've introduced stuff like refined sugars in our diet

[01:53:04] and you know, the high fructose corn syrup, right?

[01:53:08] Right McDonald's.

[01:53:09] And like cardiovascular adverse events

[01:53:14] like heart attacks are going through the roof.

[01:53:16] And now we are introducing something completely new

[01:53:19] to our mind that we didn't evolve to consume.

[01:53:23] Like we haven't evolved to consume lots of refined sugars

[01:53:28] and processed foods.

[01:53:29] And do you think that given what we've learned about,

[01:53:34] you know, when we without caution,

[01:53:36] just one day as a species decided,

[01:53:39] okay, let's just consume all this food

[01:53:42] that isn't meant to go in our body

[01:53:44] and now we're suffering with consequences decades later,

[01:53:47] with obesity, epidemic, and everything else.

[01:53:50] Do you think that maybe this time when we are now

[01:53:52] introducing this new mental thing to social media

[01:53:56] and to our minds, that maybe we should be like,

[01:53:58] okay, well, let's maybe, at least when it comes

[01:54:01] to children, put a little break on this

[01:54:05] until we figure out exactly how it's gonna affect us,

[01:54:08] and if it's maybe going to help as disastrous effects

[01:54:11] as the processed food revolution had in our bodies.

[01:54:17] I am, okay, sorry, okay, we did do poll,

[01:54:19] but no, I think that if one country doesn't allow

[01:54:24] their kids to be on the internet or something,

[01:54:26] that the kids in that country are going to be

[01:54:28] so unbelievably behind for the rest of their life

[01:54:32] compared to other countries,

[01:54:33] because life is on the internet now.

[01:54:35] And if you don't teach kids how to be on the internet,

[01:54:38] and if they don't learn how to be on the internet,

[01:54:39] they're just going to be behind for the rest of their life.

[01:54:42] Like they're going to be like the,

[01:54:44] like look at your grandparents, like,

[01:54:46] I'm sorry, not your, but like look at old people, right?

[01:54:50] It's like, look at old people,

[01:54:52] like are they in a better position

[01:54:53] because they lived a happy life

[01:54:55] and didn't be on social media?

[01:54:56] Like, yeah, it's good that they didn't,

[01:54:57] but like if the entire world is on the internet

[01:55:00] and they have to get jobs now on the internet

[01:55:03] and they have to do a lot of things on the internet,

[01:55:06] then they would be struggling

[01:55:07] probably quite a lot in those old people

[01:55:09] because they don't know how to do it.

[01:55:10] Okay, sorry, but okay, I feel like you're gonna win this WB,

[01:55:14] but chat one, if you do not think that the internet

[01:55:18] should be banned for children, which is what I believe,

[01:55:21] two, if you think that the internet should be banned

[01:55:24] for all under 18s, all under 18s by the way,

[01:55:28] like I, if I was gonna say this debate,

[01:55:30] I would say like under 10s or under 12s, under 18,

[01:55:34] like you can like move out of 16 like yeah it looks like you've decisively won

[01:55:44] congratulations lady and you know there was a lot to write in when this

[01:55:51] debate it looks like children will after all be allowed to be in the safe if you

[01:55:55] lose you die

[01:55:58] Okay, you don't need to buy soon, but it's just probably guaranteed that you will die and it might be because of this debate

[01:56:05] So well, thank you for the debate. I'll see you

[01:56:10] I'm here and they really appreciate it

[01:56:15] Sorry, that was such a long debate, but that was such a good debate

[01:56:18] I was so convinced that we view was gonna win not gonna lie

[01:56:21] He like every I feel like every time he spoke

[01:56:23] I feel like more people probably swayed to him and then I got the last like words

[01:56:27] like I got the last sentence you know what I mean so double you know buy a

[01:56:33] stream of strikes again okay um no see could we drag drag in the next person

[01:56:40] please I don't know what's going on my hair holy I'm doing very good thank you

[01:56:52] Faro, what is your hot take for us today?

[01:56:55] My hot take for today is that in the context of a monarchy,

[01:57:00] and therefore I mean a real monarchy, not what you guys

[01:57:03] haven't written, incest is a good thing.

[01:57:07] So I have three pillars for my argument there.

[01:57:12] The first one, George, in general,

[01:57:14] is you're able to expand more easily

[01:57:18] when you have the backup of secured inheritance

[01:57:24] and so it reduces the amount of wars people declare

[01:57:29] or countries declare for therefore.

[01:57:31] The second one, it's preserves economic stability

[01:57:34] and political stability and prevents civil wars

[01:57:36] and people from dying and economic stability

[01:57:39] is of course always a good thing.

[01:57:41] And the first pillar for my argument

[01:57:43] is it strengthens multiculturalism

[01:57:46] and intercultural exchanges.

[01:57:52] How does incest help multiculturalism?

[01:57:59] So the thing with that is you have the possibility

[01:58:04] in a world, so in the 16th century like that,

[01:58:09] you have all the monarchies in every country,

[01:58:14] more or less is a monarchy.

[01:58:15] And so you're able to marry, yeah, make marriage agreements

[01:58:20] that when one line of the, one line, one kingdom like,

[01:58:26] king line dies, the other king line inherits

[01:58:30] everything from them.

[01:58:32] And so you can create bigger and bigger countries

[01:58:35] because you're always inherited from the others

[01:58:37] because your line never goes extinct

[01:58:42] because you do insist

[01:58:44] So your inheritance is always secured and therefore you can create always

[01:58:50] a multicultural to marry your family members. No, no, that's something it's

[01:58:56] the it's the second point I said only for for the king of course the normal

[01:59:01] people shouldn't do incest of course it's only meant for the for the Monarchs.

[01:59:06] So they can ensure a proper succession and proper financial thing. You see this

[01:59:12] with Austria-Hungary. I'm still a bit confused about this multicultural point. So you're trying to

[01:59:17] Yeah, it's a little it's a little I'm coming I'm getting to the point. So you see this with

[01:59:23] Austria-Hungary. Austria-Hungary married all different kingdoms and inherited them. And so you'll see

[01:59:30] and in the later stages after the Polish partition Poland was petitioned a few times

[01:59:35] afterwards and was petitioned between Russia, Russia and Austria. And so the thing was the

[01:59:41] The Poles were extremely oppressed in Prussia because they didn't think the Poles existed.

[01:59:46] The same thing was for Russia, only in Austria-Hungary because Austria-Hungary in the past gathered

[01:59:52] all these countries, not by violent means, but by marriage.

[01:59:57] And so they had a completely other connection with these countries.

[02:00:01] So the Austrian parts of Poland where the best treated parts, in comparison to the other parts in Krakow,

[02:00:13] was therefore became a major city and was essential for repealing Poland.

[02:00:19] Okay. So do you think that it is good for a monarchy to be insane and most likely not very smart?

[02:00:33] And the thing with that is the quality of a monarch is not necessarily described by the quality of the monarch himself, but by the advisers he chooses.

[02:00:47] Because most of the time the miners are fine because he's going to be like completely brain-dad,

[02:00:52] not able to make decisions. Let's just hope he listens to his advisors. Most likely though,

[02:00:59] he's probably not, if he's insane and not very smart. So he's going to be great.

[02:01:05] Yeah, that's the thing because he isn't very smart. You can very easily persuade him to

[02:01:11] to do something like this.

[02:01:12] So somebody says, yeah, here's the new chancellor

[02:01:16] and he does everything when the monarch is just a figurehead

[02:01:20] on the top of the state and the chancellor's

[02:01:22] do all the important stuff under him.

[02:01:24] Yeah, it doesn't actually work like that.

[02:01:28] If you have a crazy person, it was not very smart

[02:01:35] and probably has a lot of issues, okay?

[02:01:38] They are just on the whole group. They're not going to be as good of a leader as an average person, okay?

[02:01:49] I have a historical...

[02:01:51] Generation after generation after generation.

[02:01:55] I have a historical example for this. So you see it when in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, in the 1800s, I think...

[02:02:03] I'm not an example.

[02:02:05] You can't be like all this one example, this one example, like, like, just like, okay,

[02:02:10] but just listen to what you're saying.

[02:02:12] Oh, yeah.

[02:02:13] No, I'm sure it's fine for the, for the ruler to be like, not a pain in the brain.

[02:02:20] I'm sure it's fine.

[02:02:21] I'm sure he'll just listen to his advisors, which will surely just be smart.

[02:02:24] So that's fine.

[02:02:27] Yeah, but he has to choose someone as chancellor.

[02:02:29] And of course, this Chancellor in 99% is more clever than him because he's not...

[02:02:35] Okay, but he's...

[02:02:36] No, bro, he's just probably gonna pick his friend.

[02:02:38] Like, rulers tend to do what the ruler wants to do.

[02:02:42] Well, I don't know, I'm just trying to think of all the points why Infersta's bad here.

[02:02:48] First of all, if the kings and queens are doing it, okay, then that probably means

[02:02:53] it's gonna just be more common in general, first point, which is really bad.

[02:02:57] does this have anything to do with multiculturalism? Yeah, I know. It's a problem. So for the common

[02:03:06] people, you can just ban it, but for the monarch, it's a lot that wouldn't be the first time.

[02:03:11] But you have the other point with economic stability and succession crises. You see it with your

[02:03:17] head, multiple succession crises in every major European country. It's more likely to be just

[02:03:22] economically stable if they're not like again, I don't know what's a nice way

[02:03:28] I'm really struggling to find a nice way to put it here just a bit silly in the

[02:03:34] brain that they're more likely to be stable if their parents were not

[02:03:40] brother and sister bro I don't know just everything I'm not more likely to be

[02:03:44] better for them if their parents were not brother and sister okay because

[02:03:48] they're just more likely to make good decisions yeah but but you're having

[02:03:55] stable you have a stable economy it's not stable of course it's stable your

[02:04:05] inheritance is always stable also nearly always like royalty will marry royalty

[02:04:17] of like another country which binds the two countries together means there's good relationships

[02:04:23] again like between countries which is good leads to less war leads to more good PR and

[02:04:29] all that good stuff okay and no incest www and then you have leaders which are you know

[02:04:38] you have ally which have made ally in countries and the offspring who will also one day become

[02:04:44] leaders are not brother and sister so they're more likely to make good decisions.

[02:04:50] It's okay when you're one time married to another kingdom but oftentimes in history it happened that

[02:04:57] when you marry them and then afterwards your inheritance isn't secured and then all everything

[02:05:05] splits apart and you get a messy civil wars with hundreds and millions of debt and economic

[02:05:10] a terminal and everything else. However, when you want to have more for that to happen, then

[02:05:18] to not happen. Of course, it's more rare when you're doing says because then your inheritance

[02:05:27] is secured. And you can be sure that you always have a proper air as your son or

[02:05:33] something else. It's that that's then like gets a little confusing. But you always

[02:05:39] have a proper air and never 20 pretender. Your son is not going to be the good lid.

[02:05:46] I don't know how to. I feel like you're going to write in South Coast China. Are there any

[02:05:49] more points that I could? Okay. You're probably going to have to make 20 sons first of all,

[02:05:55] just for one of them to be able to survive. Okay. You're going to have to spend your

[02:06:00] life marrying your sisters. Okay. For just get one offspring that is able to

[02:06:06] be a leader in the first place. Okay? Yeah. Oh, it has to be a sister. You're married.

[02:06:13] Sometimes it's sufficient when you marry your cousin. But the point is, when you it's

[02:06:19] okay to do incest to protect your inheritance as a kingdom. That's more or less the deeper

[02:06:27] part. So you're really you're really on the point of inheritance here. So so if

[02:06:31] If you were a really rich person, would that be okay as well, do you think?

[02:06:38] Would you be incest?

[02:06:41] Because then you have a big inheritance.

[02:06:44] When you want to build a big empire, it's in the context of monarchy.

[02:06:49] It doesn't apply to modern times.

[02:06:53] So why are you saying it doesn't apply to modern times?

[02:06:57] Some people have a big inheritance in modern times.

[02:07:00] Yeah, because it's a first because it's not my point, but the other thing is and the main point is for

[02:07:07] For countries that there is the main

[02:07:11] Advantage because you don't have pretenders when some rich people fight with lawyers about about who airs and how it's there

[02:07:19] enormous wealth

[02:07:20] It's not really an a big economic factor

[02:07:23] But when there are civil wars because we have 20 30 pretenders all fighting each other and

[02:07:30] Or in the roman times were every year more or less, you know who's more likely to fight

[02:07:37] Someone whose parents a brother and sister

[02:07:42] But not if you have to but you can therefore reduce the amount of pretenders

[02:07:48] who will claim the throne because it's completely clear who is the emperor because there isn't

[02:07:54] more you never having someone who has any legitimate claim to the throne and so it can

[02:08:01] keep the empires together ensure economic stability and create personal unions which are last

[02:08:07] over centuries and therefore bring the multiple cultures better together and therefore

[02:08:13] So if you were the king and you had kids, you wouldn't want your kids to fight over

[02:08:24] who owns the empire.

[02:08:26] So you'd rather them fight over 90% of their children not being like...

[02:08:36] Why should they fight about this?

[02:08:38] Normally?

[02:08:39] It's just a thing that they need to do, but they don't fight about it.

[02:08:42] You don't love your children!

[02:08:44] The common people don't die! That's what is important!

[02:08:46] Okay, having kid after kid, that doesn't make it.

[02:08:50] I don't think he can read.

[02:08:52] Just for the empire.

[02:08:56] There not to be an argument over the empire, which is obviously unlikely to happen in the first place.

[02:09:02] But in the very off chance that it does happen, you'd rather pretty much guaranteed the children not to turn out happy healthy children.

[02:09:12] Yeah, but you have the suffering of one family, which is just a royal family

[02:09:18] for the prosperity of the whole country, which doesn't have to

[02:09:25] You can have the prosperity of the country by allying with another country that doesn't create

[02:09:32] That's you as soon as your monarch dies and the inheritance isn't secured which happened with every major country in Europe

[02:09:40] Europe, which had a monarchy to watch a film multiple times.

[02:09:43] You to this always the inheritance.

[02:09:45] That is the main problem.

[02:09:46] The most wars in the 16th and 18th century were because of these inherent

[02:09:51] dissuccession wars and end or civil wars, which were fought against

[02:09:56] pretenders or other countries who wanted to put their monarchy on the

[02:10:00] throne.

[02:10:01] And you with a little incest, you can completely negate this

[02:10:05] problem and always have a secure and have to align with no pretenders.

[02:10:09] No other country is desiring your throne.

[02:10:11] You can't guarantee the line.

[02:10:16] A lot of the time you won't have offspring that can take it over.

[02:10:22] Because mom and dad were brother and sister, bro. Like what?

[02:10:26] Like a lot of the time you won't have anyone to take over in the first place.

[02:10:33] God, this always can happen, but that also happens with other monarchs, monarchies often

[02:10:39] enough.

[02:10:40] But in that particular case, you can always do what the Romans did and just adopt a child

[02:10:46] and then say, he's my son and he gets inherited.

[02:10:49] And then you have the whole thing starting over, all over again, you have a clean new

[02:10:53] line with a monarch who got adopted because then he's not incestuous.

[02:10:59] And then he can always marry so that the inheritance is secure and he can keep the empire together.

[02:11:07] So why don't you say let's adopt instead of let's incest?

[02:11:13] Because over the long term, continuous adoption can delegitimize the royal family, can delegitimize

[02:11:22] the family.

[02:11:23] commoners get the problem that other countries will just say that the adopted child doesn't have any

[02:11:33] right to be on the phone because he's just a commoner and not really an adult.

[02:11:42] A commoner is still probably going to be able to rule the country much better, but you know what?

[02:11:47] Let's leave it up to a vote. One for LL and Sastin Monarchy's, two for WWL and Sastin Monarchy's.

[02:12:01] I'm checking to see if anyone is typing to you right now.

[02:12:05] One for LL, two for WWL.

[02:12:10] So just to confirm for if you were the...

[02:12:14] Did you have a sister?

[02:12:17] No, I have a brother, but yeah.

[02:12:21] If you were a girl, would you have children with your brother?

[02:12:28] The king has to do what is best for his country, that's the only thing I can say.

[02:12:34] So if you were the queen and your brother was the king, you would have children with your brother.

[02:12:42] You have to do what you have to do. Sometimes word is a half place.

[02:12:47] But you don't have to bro. You're choosing to.

[02:12:52] No, the country will go into disaster and go higher, which is built up to thousands of years.

[02:13:00] Will it be a business that I can't just because of myself it means.

[02:13:07] I can just account because of my only because of my selfish wishes. I can just destroy something

[02:13:15] Generations of a generation has filled up to not have children with your brother

[02:13:23] Can't always choose that's the that's the pain you have to live through when you are Monarch

[02:13:29] Okay, well, um Farah, that's very noble of you. Um, thank you so much today. We have a good day. Oh seven

[02:13:35] Thank you, thank you too, have a nice stream and a good day.

[02:13:44] Well, the parents of the Egyptian Pharaoh Tutankhamun are both brother and sister so siblings and look what's happened to him also looks at the Habsburg dynasty finally Elizabeth the second and Prince Philip our third cousins.

[02:13:58] Yep, I know, there's lots of that in the world, yep.

[02:14:05] What do you mean, who can relate to him than...?

[02:14:12] Right, um... interesting debate so far in my red chat!

[02:14:17] Okay, um, you'll see. Could you please bring the next fella in?

[02:14:22] Also, chat if you would like to debate. Anyone can join.

[02:14:25] All you have to do is go to the debate voice chat in the squad.

[02:14:29] Um, hello Ricky.

[02:14:31] Hello.

[02:14:33] Hello! How you doing?

[02:14:35] Um, I'm doing okay.

[02:14:37] I'm doing okay.

[02:14:39] Well, you said something earlier, which is part of my topic, which, um, I wouldn't say it's

[02:14:47] slightly triggered me, but it's basically about how your mum, or you're saying how your

[02:14:53] mum's literally trained your dog to, I wouldn't say exclusively be, um, aggressive to just

[02:15:00] miles but I mean maybe that's happened accidentally but I don't think it's the

[02:15:05] right thing to do. Yes I agree with you. I do not think that Fluffy should violently

[02:15:11] block when he sees a man. I agree. Oh well that was a good break. Yeah no I did

[02:15:18] I did say that to you but um yeah no I do agree with you. I do agree with you.

[02:15:23] I mean it's something that can be with a proper dog trainer or I think

[02:15:28] probably articles on the internet how to undo it because obviously it's also

[02:15:33] yeah I know she doesn't want to undo it she likes it

[02:15:37] I mean even though if he was barking at me with the viciousest bark I still

[02:15:46] wouldn't be able to not cuddle him but yeah no I agree

[02:15:53] Yeah, maybe I mean obviously for any males in the house and you want to put

[02:16:00] them on too, there are methods of getting past that. It's just about having a calm.

[02:16:05] Yeah, but you still get past it. I mean it's obviously you're saying that if there's any

[02:16:12] males in the house, we're literally not frightened of it because of this but

[02:16:17] where he just keep a calm composed, you know, error about you all times and the dog will

[02:16:24] come around eventually, even if it has been, because then it will learn, well, okay, if

[02:16:29] I've been trained that men are a problem, this one isn't, because dogs are quite intelligent

[02:16:34] and especially that breed.

[02:16:36] So, I mean, because he's very intelligent.

[02:16:40] Because it comes from a fact that probably about 10 years ago now, was just walking

[02:16:45] for the park, I got my ankle bitten by a, should we say, a female dog owner who did the same.

[02:16:51] I wonder, please turn up, I didn't call them, so they were literally walking for the park.

[02:16:56] They did take the dog off of her and literally, if I remember this right, they were actually

[02:17:04] going for, you know, effectively trying to get rid of it.

[02:17:08] It's okay, Fluffy goes to doggy social every single day, so he is very well socialized.

[02:17:14] like he would never attack anyone.

[02:17:17] Yeah, that's good.

[02:17:20] I mean, I'll just walk you out and check it.

[02:17:22] It's also because you say you want to be a dog only yourself

[02:17:25] one day.

[02:17:26] Hell yeah, I'm going to be the best doggy mummy

[02:17:28] in the whole world.

[02:17:30] I mean, it's fine.

[02:17:32] I did not just say mummy, but I did.

[02:17:34] Whatever the breed, if they're capable of it.

[02:17:36] I mean, obviously, the bigger dogs

[02:17:38] more effective than that.

[02:17:40] I agree with you, though, bro.

[02:17:42] I can't argue with you.

[02:17:43] I can't argue, but thank you very much for coming on. I appreciate it.

[02:17:48] That's OK.

[02:17:50] I see around W. W. Ricky.

[02:17:56] I said this to my mom, I said this.

[02:17:59] She was like, no, I like it. No, I like it.

[02:18:03] You know, I think, um, no, I will be the best dog mom in the whole universe

[02:18:08] for real, for real. Skips.

[02:18:10] Soooooooo! Hello!

[02:18:12] Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello!

[02:18:14] How you been?

[02:18:15] I'm good! I'm good! How you been?

[02:18:18] I'm doing quite fine having you on the video.

[02:18:20] You and the Christmas spirit?

[02:18:22] Not anymore Christmas has passed, right?

[02:18:25] You're the kind of guy to say that.

[02:18:28] Yeah, I'm preparing for, you know, New Year's celebrations and everything.

[02:18:35] Fine. Well, Skidzo, what would you like to come on and debate about today?

[02:18:40] I actually had two topics prepared and I was wondering, do you want to go for just a lighthearted one or more serious one?

[02:18:47] What are the two debate topics?

[02:18:49] The light one is that we're going to debate if it's better to be living alone or living with others.

[02:18:55] And the serious one is that freedom of speech is no longer a thing.

[02:19:01] Which one, chat? Which one?

[02:19:05] I would prefer the fast one personally.

[02:19:11] I would prefer, yeah, I would, okay, yeah, that's more ones and twos.

[02:19:14] Okay, living alone or living with...

[02:19:16] Hmm, okay, I can really argue both points here.

[02:19:20] Okay, so are you gonna pick a side?

[02:19:22] Or should I pick one?

[02:19:23] I mean, it's just so subjective as to who you're living with.

[02:19:27] Like, if you're living with the best person in the world, then it's nice.

[02:19:31] Nice! If you're living with the worst person in the world, it's better to be alone.

[02:19:37] Okay, so if you would have to choose living on your own or living with other people, what would you choose?

[02:19:44] I mean, in my life, I hope that I'm going to move in with someone one day.

[02:19:49] Okay.

[02:19:50] So living with people.

[02:19:52] You'd rather live with people.

[02:19:54] Well, yeah, but I don't want to have to live on my own.

[02:19:58] Like you're not going to be independent anymore. You have to take into account the other people in your home or in

[02:20:07] the home view both or

[02:20:09] multiple

[02:20:11] Your productivity will go down because you always have distractions around

[02:20:15] That's so true because I said if you're with the right person if you're with the right person your productivity doesn't go down

[02:20:22] Instead of doom scrolling will throw out the night that

[02:20:25] That they stop you from doing scrolling and they get you out of your rats and they do nice things and help you and

[02:20:32] Be nice

[02:20:34] So you need other people to get rid of your bad habits. Is that what you're saying?

[02:20:38] Well, you're less likely to doom scroll if you're with someone else

[02:20:43] Might tend to disagree on that one. I could easily do school having other people around

[02:20:48] Okay, well, I feel like I would not do in school if someone else was with me like

[02:20:55] things, you're more likely to go out and do things if you're with other people and have

[02:21:00] life experiences that you don't necessarily want to have on your own. For example, I don't

[02:21:05] go out to restaurants and stuff very often because I'm on my own, right? I feel like

[02:21:10] I would go out to... I would just have more life experiences, I feel like, if I wasn't

[02:21:15] on my own, when I went to play... Like, for example, when I was just in America

[02:21:20] with Anna, I feel like we did so much stuff because I was with someone else.

[02:21:24] I wasn't on my own so like instead of just sitting in my like the first time I went to the streamer awards

[02:21:30] I was on my own and I'm not saying time. I was in my hotel alone, right?

[02:21:36] But this time I was very very little in my hotel alone because I was with someone so you go out and do stuff

[02:21:44] Because that just tends to be the culture of what happens when you're with someone else

[02:21:48] Okay, so this person that you're with that you're doing stuff with why does have to be requirement that this person

[02:21:54] this in the same house as you do. You could easily do this stuff with that person.

[02:21:57] It's not likely to happen if they live with you. Like, yeah, in theory you could just meet

[02:22:04] up with your partner every single day and then just drive you, like, in theory. But

[02:22:09] in reality, you just talk to someone more and you just do more things if you just

[02:22:12] live with them. Like, that's just the reality of life.

[02:22:14] Yeah, but like, if you have that person that you have a lot in common with and

[02:22:18] you like to do stuff with and you're actually doing stuff with that person, wouldn't

[02:22:22] it be more nice to them you know at the end of the day go back to your own place

[02:22:26] your own home no one else around you can just be you mean no one else around if

[02:22:33] you like the person why do you not want them to be there take a visit you that's

[02:22:37] not a problem but you still have your own place then you don't have to share

[02:22:40] it with somebody okay but why do you why like why do you want them to be in

[02:22:45] your own place if you like them that sounds like you don't feel that

[02:22:49] comfortable with them situation. I could totally feel comfortable with her. I've

[02:22:54] met people that I spend like almost every day just you know coming over even

[02:22:58] spending the night but I still have my own place. I still live on my own. I have my own place, my own stuff. I take care of my business, I'm in a family.

[02:23:07] Why do you choose that? Because you don't want to be with them that much. I'm saying if it's the right person I feel like you want to be with them. I feel like that's just a natural thing to want to do. You want to spend more time together if you like the person.

[02:23:18] That is absolutely true, but there's still benefits to having your own place.

[02:23:24] Good lot like what?

[02:23:26] As I said earlier in the conversation, my productivity would go up way more because I don't have distractions of other people around.

[02:23:33] Really? So you're 100% productive the entire time that you're an errand?

[02:23:37] I'm not saying 100%, it's definitely higher than having other people around.

[02:23:41] What?

[02:23:42] Okay, let me explain it like this. Let's say I have to do some stuff today and I have somebody come over and spend the entire

[02:23:50] research time

[02:23:51] I'm kind of excited at my place

[02:23:53] compared to those who live alone

[02:23:55] Yes bro, because they don't live with you because they're coming over. If you have a guest come over to your house

[02:23:59] then you have to entertain them. If you live with them, okay, then you don't have to entertain them

[02:24:05] You're like habitually living, okay, and then you have like funny comments here and there

[02:24:10] And then you like when you go to the fridge, I don't know you you see each other and when you do stuff you see each other

[02:24:15] It's like I don't know when I when I lived with my parents. I wasn't like

[02:24:19] Distracted by them like but it's like you were just going down to the kitchen

[02:24:23] And then be there and you'd like talk for two minutes

[02:24:25] Then you go upstairs and just be like a little dope mean hair

[02:24:27] And it was just a fun thing to do and then you go upstairs and you work for a bit

[02:24:31] And especially if they're also working that can also be motivating like because

[02:24:34] Yeah, and then when your parents come up and says, hey, can you walk the dog please?

[02:24:39] Okay, take out the trash or hey, I need your help with something.

[02:24:42] Can you please come over?

[02:24:43] Bro, they're asking you to do chores.

[02:24:45] You're halving the chores by living together.

[02:24:47] Oh, like not halving, but you're, but you're doing less chores as a result of living together.

[02:24:51] Like that doesn't make any sense.

[02:24:52] Like, they're asking you to do chores, so you would have to do the chores anyway.

[02:24:56] We would talk about productivity.

[02:24:58] If I want to get some stuff done, I don't want to get these distractions around of people asking me to do stuff.

[02:25:02] What do you mean distractions of chores? You have to do less chores if you live with someone

[02:25:08] No, I don't have to

[02:25:10] So you don't do the chores what I can do the chores whenever the fuck I want

[02:25:17] When you want and you won't get up like I don't know

[02:25:20] Yeah, also actually helps you to live more like a human being and not have like rotting

[02:25:25] Plates in the sink because there's someone else living there like being held accountable is sometimes a nice thing

[02:25:30] because it doesn't let you degenerate.

[02:25:32] If we talk about the what's in place in the sink, right?

[02:25:36] Those plates, they are getting dirty because people are using them.

[02:25:40] If there are multiple people in this house,

[02:25:42] then those dirty plates will appear much sooner than if I live on my own as one person.

[02:25:48] Yes, because there's two people.

[02:25:51] So if we're talking about chores, the chores will also increase

[02:25:54] because there are multiple people living here.

[02:25:56] Yes, yes, yes.

[02:25:57] You have to clean the house more.

[02:25:58] Unfortunately, because there's also two people in the house.

[02:26:00] Yeah, but you have to clean the house more.

[02:26:03] The stuff has to be done more.

[02:26:05] If I live on my own, I have complete control over what I have to do and when I'm going to

[02:26:09] do it.

[02:26:10] I don't have to take into account the other people living here.

[02:26:14] But it's a sacrifice to just...

[02:26:18] I don't know, have someone that you enjoy...

[02:26:20] Okay, first of all, I don't think it's a sacrifice.

[02:26:22] I think you have to less start if you live with someone.

[02:26:25] Maybe.

[02:26:26] Then if you don't but even if you disagree on that point even if you have to do more stuff, right? Okay?

[02:26:31] Yeah, it's a sacrifice to live like to just spend time with someone that you like like that adds to your life like

[02:26:40] That's a good thing

[02:26:43] Well, she took an absolutely bad something to your life and the only thing that they have to live with you

[02:26:48] but bro, it's so it's so like

[02:26:51] It's hard to

[02:26:53] Spend a lot of time with someone if you don't live with them

[02:26:56] Do you really think so? We have a cell phone, we have social media, we have a lot of ways

[02:27:03] to spend time with people.

[02:27:04] It's not the same, it's not the same as real life.

[02:27:07] I can literally just text somebody and say like hey, wanna go to this place in like 15

[02:27:12] minutes. Yeah sure, let's go.

[02:27:13] Yeah, but then you have to like take the time out of your day. Okay, you might not

[02:27:19] have two hours spare in the day to like go do something. But like if you are living

[02:27:24] together you will see that person even if you're busy in the day like you will

[02:27:28] have that like dopamine head and like spend that little bit of time with them

[02:27:32] in the day by just living in the same house as them. I can definitely have

[02:27:37] to dopamine without living in the same house with them. I have a lot of ways to

[02:27:41] contact that person if I want to. Yeah but it's not the same! It's not the same!

[02:27:45] Like yeah like what do you mean like like when you go to the fridge and

[02:27:49] you see them it's like yeah that doesn't mean you're gonna text them

[02:27:51] every time. It's not the same as real life connection, okay? And if you're like texting,

[02:28:00] you have to have something to text about. Like if you just see them and you see them and

[02:28:04] something happens, I don't know, it's just different, bro. Like, you will, you will just

[02:28:11] end up talking to them more if you live with them versus not living with them.

[02:28:14] But he was just about to die.

[02:28:16] So you prefer that ability is lost these days though?

[02:28:18] Yeah, so you prefer just being on it all the time.

[02:28:20] You're trying not to have the rest of the time.

[02:28:22] Expecting the world to adjust to you is extremely entitled.

[02:28:25] The accountability is lost these days though.

[02:28:27] Living with people is just about adapting and adjusting.

[02:28:29] Expecting the world to adjust to you is extremely entitled.

[02:28:36] Yeah, that's a lot of big words I don't really...

[02:28:38] I don't really...

[02:28:40] That was a big pause there.

[02:28:43] I'm trying to understand but I don't fully understand.

[02:28:47] I can't say anything.

[02:28:49] But, um, sorry, yeah, what were you saying?

[02:28:52] Yeah, please keep it simplified.

[02:28:54] What was the last point you were saying?

[02:28:58] I was talking about being on each other's lip like 24-7 because you're living with

[02:29:03] together with somebody.

[02:29:05] Being on that lip.

[02:29:06] Yeah, as in you're always you don't have that that moments in the day where you can just be on your own take a breather just to relax

[02:29:18] The person you kind of relax what do you mean?

[02:29:22] like

[02:29:23] What if you like them, okay?

[02:29:28] Breathe that from socializing with them then then

[02:29:32] Are you approaching this as like roommates or?

[02:29:36] girlfriend-boyfriends relationship?

[02:29:41] Well, to be fair, I was imagining a relationship.

[02:29:44] I was even imagining a relationship.

[02:29:45] I mean, I've lived.

[02:29:47] The only real people that I've lived with is I've lived with my mom.

[02:29:50] I've lived with my dad and I've lived with my friend.

[02:29:55] And she went to university and then it was just our friends,

[02:29:57] parents, and then I moved out.

[02:29:58] But like, yeah, from the experiences that I have experienced,

[02:30:03] I love living with my dad.

[02:30:04] It's such a vibe.

[02:30:05] like I think if you live with the right people then then it's good if you live

[02:30:13] with the wrong people and it's bad. So you would rather not just live with your dad

[02:30:18] instead of living with your own? Oh hell yeah I mean if I could like my dad was

[02:30:24] living at a different house I mean I'd never be able to live with my dad now

[02:30:28] because there's literally zero space but like hell yeah if my dad lived in

[02:30:33] like a like a like a big house that I could live in oh my gosh I'd live there until like

[02:30:38] I go married holy it's sore it like I it's just a vibe it's just like you just show

[02:30:46] like that like we would never argue I can't remember the lot I think the last time me

[02:30:49] my dad argued was when I was like four years old there are many benefits to living with

[02:30:53] someone but not all shared living is created equal the benefits depend greatly on the

[02:30:58] people you live with I think that I think the last time I argued with my dad I

[02:31:02] I was like four years old, and he kept on telling me to go to bed, and I was playing with my crayons.

[02:31:06] And he was like, go to bed, and I was playing with my crayons, and I was like, go to bed, and I was playing with my crayons.

[02:31:11] And then he was like, I'm going to throw the crayons in the bin, let here a few of you go to bed.

[02:31:15] And then I didn't go to bed, and then he started putting my crayons in the bin, and I started crying.

[02:31:21] But that was the last time I ever had an argument. Yeah, unironically.

[02:31:25] And he was four?

[02:31:26] Yeah.

[02:31:26] Wow.

[02:31:28] Yeah, because he's chill like that.

[02:31:30] because I'm not a confrontational person but then my mom is a very

[02:31:34] confrontational person and she would just argue with me but I wouldn't argue

[02:31:39] back okay she would just argue at me because she just liked arguing I didn't

[02:31:43] know her but it's like it's like some people are not the best to live with

[02:31:47] and then some people are really good to live with it just depends on the

[02:31:51] person but yeah I would way prefer to live with my dad than on my own if I

[02:31:54] And you would think that you would still get all of the stuff done and socialized in the same way.

[02:32:01] Oh my gosh, I think I would get so much more done if I lived with my dad. Oh my gosh.

[02:32:06] Because you see someone else doing stuff and you're like, oh shoot, it cracks you into gear.

[02:32:12] So if you live with someone who's in a routine, then I feel like you're less likely to degenerate and stay up till 4am.

[02:32:20] If you're like with someone who's going to battle 11 p.m.

[02:32:25] So it sounds like you need somebody around to not fall back to bad habits

[02:32:31] I'm just saying it's nice. I'm just saying I'm just saying you're probably more likely to

[02:32:36] Like hold each other to things. It's just nice

[02:32:40] Yeah, you need somebody to

[02:32:42] I mean, I'm not saying that I need to, Skitso, I've lived to learn for years, and I'm going

[02:32:49] to continue to live to learn for years.

[02:32:51] I'd much rather live by myself than the wrong person, but I'm saying it's really nice to

[02:32:55] live with the right person.

[02:32:57] Obviously, they're all benefits to it.

[02:33:00] It can be nice living with the right person, but the debate topic is, is it better to

[02:33:03] live alone or with somebody else?

[02:33:06] else it's like it's like if I don't know I feel like if you it's it sounds like you

[02:33:13] need somebody to live with to keep you motivated to keep you energized connection

[02:33:18] mm-hmm nothing beats I don't need someone to keep me motivated again I've lived

[02:33:23] alone for years but it helps if you're with the right person also the life is

[02:33:28] not just about motivation bro life is also about like just being with people

[02:33:32] and having a nice time and you are just I don't know it's just less lonely to live

[02:33:38] with someone obviously because you're not alone like you can happily not be lonely

[02:33:44] if you live on your own but it's less lonely if you live with someone you like

[02:33:49] it's just fun it's just more fun like like if you're taught if you like if I

[02:33:57] feel like if you don't live together you have to be doing something or like

[02:34:00] not being productive or like you have to be you have to be doing something

[02:34:03] like going to the cinema or talking on the phone or like just on sky sky on

[02:34:10] like this or something like okay you have to be doing something that's like out

[02:34:17] of your normal day to be talking to them yeah but all the things that you're

[02:34:23] saying right now I can do all that stuff that you're talking about

[02:34:28] Socializing, talking to people, having people come over, spending time with them at my home.

[02:34:33] That's literally my whole point, that's exactly what I'm saying.

[02:34:35] I can do all of that.

[02:34:36] That's what I'm saying bro!

[02:34:37] You just, you're proving my point.

[02:34:39] Yeah, I can do all of that and still have my own place.

[02:34:42] Like I just said, okay?

[02:34:44] But you can't do the stuff that doesn't take the time out of your day.

[02:34:48] Like you just go and walk around your house from time to time and you see people.

[02:34:53] You have like three second interactions and then you go about your day.

[02:34:57] don't have that if you don't live with them.

[02:35:01] And why would I need those extra 50 seconds of interaction?

[02:35:04] Because otherwise you have to take time out of your day

[02:35:08] to do things with people.

[02:35:10] They're not going to come round for you

[02:35:12] to spend five minutes with them.

[02:35:14] Like, I can definitely be in touch with people

[02:35:19] and just spend time with them on some sort of basis.

[02:35:23] Are you really arguing or that it's obvious you're

[02:35:26] to spend more time with someone if you live with them. Like, I don't know how you're gonna

[02:35:32] argue with that.

[02:35:33] Yeah, is that, is that, is that, is that presaid better than just living on your own, having

[02:35:36] your own place?

[02:35:37] Like, why are you like so like, oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my, like a breather, like

[02:35:42] I want to have a breather, like, like what if you're living with someone that you

[02:35:45] like, then you don't need to breathe on your own, like, I don't know. Like, like,

[02:35:51] because we sometimes as human beings need some time alone.

[02:35:55] I don't think you do. I think lots of people like to be with other people. Plus you're not in the same room as them all the time. You're still in the same house.

[02:36:03] Like you're still like probably majority of the time in a room on your own.

[02:36:09] Yeah but I still have to take it to account that there are other people living here.

[02:36:13] What do you mean? You're stressing out because Bro Bro's in the kitchen?

[02:36:17] I can't do whatever the fuck I want.

[02:36:20] Okay, let's say I'm a roommate.

[02:36:21] Like, okay, a guy, girl doesn't even matter.

[02:36:24] I can just bring home another girl

[02:36:29] because I have a roommate that I have to take into account.

[02:36:37] I mean, again, it depends on the,

[02:36:39] I'm sure lots of roommates are fine.

[02:36:41] I think that most people living with other people,

[02:36:45] roommates with other people, bring home people. No. I wouldn't say that you can't. I think a lot of

[02:36:52] people do. Have you had like college hookups or something? I didn't go to university.

[02:37:00] But you can imagine what I'm talking about. Honestly, I have a bad sample. My friends are

[02:37:06] are all mad like they don't really do that but like I from movies from movies okay I am pretty

[02:37:16] sure that people bring people home with housemates. I do not think it is uncommon to bring

[02:37:25] girlfriends and boyfriends back to your place if you have other people living in the house.

[02:37:30] I can tell you right now from my own experience that I always had to talk to my roommates about

[02:37:35] it saying hey I'm gonna spend some time with this girl I'm going on a date are

[02:37:41] you at home okay all of Chad is saying that they would be able to bring

[02:37:49] girlfriends and boyfriend back to that place if they had housemates also in

[02:37:54] that place I don't I just I don't I don't think that's necessarily gonna stop

[02:38:00] that much and like yeah if you have a really really really annoying housemate

[02:38:04] maybe, but with like I'm talking about in general it's better to live with other people bro.

[02:38:10] Okay so in this situation that I just described and what Chad is saying it's easy for them,

[02:38:16] it's much easier to do that if you just have your own place. Okay I have a question. Okay

[02:38:21] you're in love with a girl okay, you're in love with a girl. Yeah. Would you rather it's 100%

[02:38:27] up to you she like so does not care. Would you be like let's live in separate places and

[02:38:34] Or leave me up when we want?

[02:38:36] Or...

[02:38:37] As long as you don't have to leave him with you.

[02:38:39] As long as you don't have to leave him with you.

[02:38:40] Leftovers, it's all good.

[02:38:42] Are we talking about potential fling?

[02:38:45] Are we talking about solved relationship?

[02:38:47] No, you love her.

[02:38:50] Okay, then let's go into a serious relationship.

[02:38:53] Then I might...

[02:38:54] It's going wherever you want, bro!

[02:38:56] It's going wherever you want!

[02:38:59] Well, in my case, like if it's just starting up fling,

[02:39:01] then I'd rather have my own place.

[02:39:03] You love her, huh? You love her.

[02:39:06] Yeah, so?

[02:39:07] What do you mean? It's a starting up fling. I'm saying you're in love.

[02:39:10] Who's in, like, who's in love with a starting-up fling? What?

[02:39:17] Okay, you have decided to love this woman!

[02:39:20] Now, Lydia, let me explain it like this. I don't know how your love life looks, but

[02:39:25] I cannot decide if I love a woman within the first day.

[02:39:28] Okay, I never said I was within the first day. I said you found out

[02:39:32] You love a woman.

[02:39:34] I know this is something about how long.

[02:39:37] So something like that has to grow with me.

[02:39:39] And then if it's like going well for quite a long time

[02:39:44] and then we start to like build something

[02:39:46] and then it's becoming love, then yeah, sure.

[02:39:48] Then I'm going to float towards, hey, let's talk about

[02:39:52] maybe living together.

[02:39:53] And why would you want to live together?

[02:39:57] Because I enjoy her company.

[02:39:59] Oh.

[02:40:00] So if it's the right person, you would want to live with someone else.

[02:40:06] I could look that way, absolutely.

[02:40:09] Which proves my point!

[02:40:12] This whole time, bro!

[02:40:15] If it was the right person, you would optionally choose to live together.

[02:40:24] I could choose to live together, absolutely.

[02:40:26] Chat 1, if you agree with me, um, living with the- living with the right person is better than living with nobody.

[02:40:37] Or 2, if you agree with Skipthor, that living alone is always better.

[02:40:45] Sorry about that.

[02:40:46] Just for the record, also for- just for the record, also for chat, um, I can debate both sides on this topic.

[02:40:51] Yeah, no, I can debate both sides as well, honestly.

[02:40:54] I had to go just very hard on one side right here.

[02:40:57] Yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it, I get it.

[02:40:59] Just gonna make this.

[02:41:00] Well, don't worry, don't worry.

[02:41:02] Thank you very much for coming on.

[02:41:03] And thank you for choosing the losing side.

[02:41:05] I appreciate it.

[02:41:06] Thank you.

[02:41:07] Take your own.

[02:41:08] See you next time.

[02:41:09] Bye bye.

[02:41:10] Yeah!

[02:41:11] Wait, hold on.

[02:41:12] Have we won, have I won all of them today?

[02:41:13] Have I won all of them today, people?

[02:41:14] I'm cute.

[02:41:15] I'm cute.

[02:41:16] I'm cute.

[02:41:17] I'm cute.

[02:41:18] I'm cute.

[02:41:19] I'm cute.

[02:41:20] Well then, okay, um, Narsie, oh wait, hold on. Lydia, I had the perfect relationship with

[02:41:31] my girlfriend. She was living with me until the mean doctors started to make me take a

[02:41:39] funny pill and then she disappeared.

[02:41:43] Hello?

[02:41:44] Well, maybe the doctor stole her.

[02:41:50] That's messed up.

[02:41:52] You should bring that up with the doctor for her.

[02:41:54] Hello, welcome Martin. How are you doing?

[02:41:57] Hello, I'm doing good. How about you?

[02:41:59] I'm doing very good. Thank you.

[02:42:01] Martin, what would you like to debate about today?

[02:42:04] So, my topic is becoming an influencer is much easier than start your own business.

[02:42:12] Becoming an influencer is studying in business.

[02:42:15] Yeah, it's much easier

[02:42:18] than start your own business.

[02:42:20] Becoming an influencer is studying your own business.

[02:42:23] No, no, no, becoming an influencer is much easier

[02:42:27] than starting your own business.

[02:42:31] Bro, being an influencer is much easier.

[02:42:38] I have a business.

[02:42:50] Which is how I pay tax.

[02:42:52] Yeah, but it's easier for influencers to create a business.

[02:43:00] Okay.

[02:43:02] Wait, that's a...

[02:43:05] Okay, let's say you want to become an influencer and start from zero and you want to create

[02:43:13] a business and start from zero.

[02:43:17] The influencer becoming an influencer from zero is easier.

[02:43:26] Okay.

[02:43:30] What you mean like an influencer to the point of earning the same amount of money as...

[02:43:36] Let's say a decent amount.

[02:43:38] Okay, so say, I don't know, 20,000 a year.

[02:43:42] Okay, you're saying it's easier to become an influencer earning 20,000 a year than any

[02:43:49] other business earning 20,000 a year?

[02:43:53] Because influencing is the type of thing.

[02:43:57] No, when you start from zero, as an influencer, that's much easier than creating your own business

[02:44:07] and making big money.

[02:44:11] So influencing is a type, okay, so you have, I want to start a business, okay?

[02:44:17] Should I go into influencing?

[02:44:19] Should I go into selling light bulbs?

[02:44:21] Should I go into selling crypto courses?

[02:44:25] Oh wait, I guess that counts as influencing, sorry.

[02:44:28] Should I be an influencer?

[02:44:30] Should I sell light bulbs?

[02:44:32] Should I become a freelance driving instructor?

[02:44:36] Or should I become a freelance artist on the internet?

[02:44:42] Okay, you're saying out of every single other subset to business, being an influencer

[02:44:49] is the easiest.

[02:44:50] Is that your argument?

[02:44:52] It's much easier because when you want to become an influencer, you have something you

[02:44:58] want to do on the Internet.

[02:45:00] For example, making photos or streaming.

[02:45:08] And when you're building your own business, you need to focus on something.

[02:45:17] You had something in your head and you need to focus on that thing and make it bigger,

[02:45:24] you know?

[02:45:25] Okay, so I'm like, hmm, well, influencers have thought about, I want to become an influencer.

[02:45:34] Okay, so they have been, I want to start my own business into, I want to become an

[02:45:39] influencer into this is what I'm going to do to get people to follow me into this

[02:45:46] This is how I'm going to monetize that to honor living.

[02:45:50] How is that different from any other pathway of starting your own business?

[02:45:56] When you become an influencer, you have something to offer to people in business, but you are

[02:46:03] on the internet.

[02:46:05] For example, you want to start a business for a machine shop.

[02:46:13] Machine shop, okay?

[02:46:14] Yeah.

[02:46:15] And you want to start a machining product and sell that product to your customers.

[02:46:22] At the beginning, you start in the garage, probably, in the garage.

[02:46:29] Okay, yeah, if you're making the parts yourself, yeah?

[02:46:32] Yeah.

[02:46:35] And you need to make the part that good quality and you need to make a lot of this part.

[02:46:41] Okay, if that is the subsector business that you want to go into, then yeah, okay.

[02:46:50] And after a while, you need to expand.

[02:46:55] You need to buy a warehouse to put your other machines you buy.

[02:47:00] Well, this is just like one subsector business you could do.

[02:47:04] You could also be like a freelance artist that is also starting your own business.

[02:47:08] You could also teach people how to drive that is also starting your own business

[02:47:14] You could make websites online that is also starting your own business like some businesses

[02:47:20] Take startups some don't if you want to be a streamer

[02:47:23] Then you got to get the things required to stream

[02:47:27] You got to learn how to use them and you probably got to stream to zero like majority of streamers

[02:47:33] Stream to zero people or like less than ten people for years

[02:47:39] Yeah, that's true, and you can reach out to some bigger streamers

[02:47:47] Brother you can

[02:47:51] Just

[02:47:53] No, oh my gosh, you're so right. Why did I think of that when I average ten viewers?

[02:47:57] Why didn't I just go to Pokemon and be like hey, pokey?

[02:48:00] I don't mean it like that. You reach out bigger streamers than you so let's say a hundred people.

[02:48:09] I reached out when I was small, okay? I reached out to people smaller than me. My own size

[02:48:14] I'm bigger. No one responded. No one responded. No, but no, but no, but that just happens

[02:48:22] bro. I don't know like people don't want to collab with you if your sole intent is

[02:48:26] just to steal their viewers. That's just a little messed up. You're like, like, what?

[02:48:33] Also, also, if they're not following you, they probably won't see your DM. So I feel

[02:48:39] like I feel like maybe you need to try something before you say that it's easy. Okay, I love

[02:48:46] my job. It's so easy. It's so easy. But it's not as easy as just collab with big

[02:48:51] people and get viewers. It's amazing, I love it so much. But the solution isn't just the

[02:49:00] bigger people and just like stream together and still that view is like

[02:49:03] flat. Yes, but you have that option. What do you mean you have that option? Like what?

[02:49:09] No, you don't. It was just not gonna happen. Let's go back to that machine shop.

[02:49:16] Okay, you have the option. You want to create a machine shop in your city and

[02:49:23] and we want to become an influencer and machine influencer.

[02:49:27] Okay.

[02:49:30] When you want to start a machine shop,

[02:49:32] first of all, you need to buy a machine.

[02:49:35] Okay, like if you want to be a streamer,

[02:49:37] you have to buy the stuff to stream, yeah?

[02:49:39] Yeah, you need to get a job from the other people.

[02:49:44] You need to get a job?

[02:49:48] Yeah, you need to get a job for your machines.

[02:49:52] What?

[02:49:54] Someone needs to order a part from you.

[02:49:56] OK, yeah, yeah, someone needs to order the parts.

[02:49:59] Like, if you're trying to make money as a streamer,

[02:50:01] then people need to subscribe to not see ads, yeah?

[02:50:06] For example, you need to machine that part and ship it.

[02:50:11] And that shipping must come to the customers.

[02:50:15] OK, so you need to walk to the, yeah,

[02:50:18] you need to make the part and then you need to go deliver

[02:50:21] part yeah true and when you start on social media for example you buy a

[02:50:29] machine you shoot some photos on videos and you put it on the internet no one's

[02:50:34] gonna pay you for taking some no pain every now and then bro like that's it's

[02:50:43] It's not comparable.

[02:50:45] It is.

[02:50:46] It takes so many years.

[02:50:47] You put the picture on Instagram.

[02:50:49] It takes so many years for 99% of influencers to make any money from influencing.

[02:50:56] What do you mean?

[02:50:57] Just take some pics, upload them.

[02:50:59] That's not a problem.

[02:51:00] Upload them on Instagram.

[02:51:02] Okay.

[02:51:03] People will find that picture, not ordering the part, but finding the picture.

[02:51:08] Bro, no one's going to find your picture on Instagram.

[02:51:11] That's not gonna happen. First of all, you don't grow from Instagram pictures, but that

[02:51:17] is something that you learn after years of experience doing it. Like you learn these

[02:51:26] things. Like you learn how to make the pots for the machine.

[02:51:31] Yeah, that's true.

[02:51:34] Right?

[02:51:35] Yeah, I'm fine.

[02:51:41] You're okay?

[02:51:42] Yeah, I'm okay.

[02:51:47] Okay, let's say you want to...

[02:51:50] How did I say it?

[02:51:52] So...

[02:51:53] Mm-hmm.

[02:51:54] Mm-hmm.

[02:51:55] Oh.

[02:51:56] Mothen, should we put this up to a pole, or...?

[02:52:06] Not yet.

[02:52:12] Can I pull this, Mothen?

[02:52:16] Oh.

[02:52:17] I mean, I guess.

[02:52:20] Yeah, I guess.

[02:52:23] Okay, um, well, you know what, let's say, let's say, let's say, okay, let's say you have,

[02:52:31] you're becoming an influencer, you know the topics you want to put on internet, on Instagram,

[02:52:36] for example, photos of you.

[02:52:38] Again, you're not going to make money on Instagram, but okay.

[02:52:42] But after a while, you will.

[02:52:43] I've never made a penny of Instagram.

[02:52:46] Okay, and some of the other creators did, you know?

[02:52:51] Very few, but okay, yeah.

[02:52:54] Right, yeah, but they did.

[02:52:55] Yeah, maybe like one in a million.

[02:52:59] Probably one in a million, but when you reach some, following.

[02:53:12] Yeah, maybe when you reach 10 million, follow us on Instagram.

[02:53:15] Hello, not millions.

[02:53:18] No, well, okay, I have 800k followers in Instagram, and I'm no when they're making money with Instagram

[02:53:24] No 800k

[02:53:25] Probably, yeah, but you probably received some offers to advertising from the bigger firms, you know

[02:53:33] Only because I stream

[02:53:36] Yeah

[02:53:38] Okay, but I didn't just post pitches on Instagram and stop making money on Instagram

[02:53:43] I've had Instagram for 10 plus years and and a brand might be like, hey, along with the stream,

[02:53:51] would you also be able to put a story advertising that you're doing the stream?

[02:53:57] If I didn't, if I wasn't a streamer, then I wouldn't have ever made any money off of Instagram.

[02:54:02] And it's definitely not enough to survive and live.

[02:54:06] But when you're becoming being a streamer, you put some of your clips on Instagram or

[02:54:10] tiktok or yeah I've never made any money off that I just do it for fun yeah

[02:54:15] you don't and the clips are just they can become a viral okay with let's say

[02:54:27] two millions or 500k views okay and the people and the people say oh this

[02:54:33] girl is funny so let's look on to which what she's doing yeah and when

[02:54:40] And they find your Twitch account and they watch you for...

[02:54:46] And they watch us!

[02:54:48] Yeah, they probably watch us.

[02:54:51] But I'm still confused why you think that it is the easiest, like, easier than starting

[02:54:56] any other business.

[02:54:58] Like, I don't know an influencer that just started earning money immediately.

[02:55:03] I know a lot of other people in business who started earning money immediately.

[02:55:07] Like, I don't think it's the eat, I love it, I think it's easier than I just have, I think

[02:55:12] it's amazing, I think it's easy, but I wouldn't be like, influencing is easier than any business.

[02:55:18] Like, some people got lucky in any business and some people don't got lucky in any business.

[02:55:24] A vast, vast, vast majority of people that influence never earn enough money to be

[02:55:30] able to quit the job that they're doing or like, survive on that.

[02:55:35] That's the majority of people without influence.

[02:55:39] Yeah, but...

[02:55:43] Let's say...

[02:55:45] About your clips on Instagram or TikTok.

[02:55:49] Right.

[02:55:51] Which again took years and years and years to gain any traction.

[02:55:57] I mean, they can, but...

[02:55:59] Some clips or some shorts,

[02:56:03] They can be viral.

[02:56:05] Let's say that's 6-7 million.

[02:56:07] No, no, no, no, no, no.

[02:56:09] People normally work on this stuff for years before realizing how to do that.

[02:56:14] Like it takes a long time to get decent.

[02:56:17] I'm not saying that I'm good at this stuff, but like it's taken me a long time to get to where I am.

[02:56:24] It doesn't just like, like, it takes long time.

[02:56:33] Like any business does

[02:56:37] But let's let's let's do a word. I think you're gonna win. I think you're gonna win. Okay, I think you're gonna win

[02:56:42] But um, okay chat one

[02:56:45] If you think like starting becoming an influencer is easier than any starting any other type of business

[02:56:52] to

[02:56:53] If you do don't think that I

[02:56:55] I mean I think it's one of the most fun and I love it so so so so so so so so so so so

[02:57:03] so much and it's easy and it's way easier than a 95 and I'm not saying that at all I

[02:57:08] think it's so much easier than a 95 and due to the laugh but I think that you can't

[02:57:15] just be like oh like like at Boston have you ever tried it?

[02:57:19] Why don't you try it if you think it's so easy?

[02:57:21] knowing what became an influencer yes that's not for me okay well um well

[02:57:30] sorry you did lose the debate but it's okay I won't give you the penalty for

[02:57:34] losing the debate it to me I'm a player do it

[02:57:42] Um, you know what, don't worry, I don't want our mutton at the same time.

[02:57:51] You can double it and give it to the next person, it's fine.

[02:57:54] Well, mutton, have an amazing day.

[02:57:57] See you around.

[02:57:58] Bye.

[02:57:59] Bye!

[02:58:00] Again, I just want to confirm, for the thousandth time chat that I was not saying

[02:58:04] that being an influencer is hot, okay, that's not what I was saying, but I think

[02:58:08] It takes a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very long time to build.

[02:58:12] And I think there are lots of other people that I know that do different businesses

[02:58:17] that it happens fast stuff.

[02:58:21] You know what I mean?

[02:58:23] Okay, Norsey!

[02:58:25] Could you maybe possibly do the deed?

[02:58:29] Could you do the sign?

[02:58:32] Lykke!

[02:58:33] Hello, Lykke, how are you doing?

[02:58:35] Yo, what's up?

[02:58:36] What's up?

[02:58:37] What's up?

[02:58:38] I'm N. M. W. B. U.

[02:58:46] What?

[02:58:47] You know, darn it.

[02:58:50] Lucy, what are what brought you here today?

[02:58:53] And I think I just came to debate.

[02:58:57] My topic is mythical creatures.

[02:59:00] OK, like dragons.

[02:59:05] Mm hmm.

[02:59:07] So I like to think that they existed at one point, but men, being men, have hunted them to extinction.

[02:59:17] Okay, why do you think that they existed?

[02:59:21] Um, so there's a lot of, uh, things like in China and like stories from like the Greeks

[02:59:29] and just they're kind of everywhere for like no reason so it's kind of like I

[02:59:37] don't know how all these different people across the world think or have like

[02:59:43] dragons as some kind of like statue or thing that existed you know if they

[02:59:52] don't exist. Okay, okay, this is this is this is my take on this right? I feel like so you know

[03:00:01] like ancient Egyptians and stuff they used to eat like brains and like they used to have the same

[03:00:09] experiences as that you have on like DMT and like hallucinogenics and stuff. I feel like when you

[03:00:16] you hallucinate a lot. People in their brain tend to hallucinate similar things. Like no

[03:00:26] matter where you are in the world, like they seem to hallucinate similar things and as

[03:00:32] a result, beliefs seem to be similar.

[03:00:37] Okay, so I'm hallucinating.

[03:00:42] Well, if you believed in dragons, well, no, sorry, no, I mean, if you saw a dragon, not

[03:00:50] if you believed in them.

[03:00:53] If you saw a dragon, no offense, Luke.

[03:00:56] I would say that you're probably hallucinating.

[03:01:00] No offense.

[03:01:01] Unless you could prove it to me.

[03:01:04] Okay.

[03:01:05] Fair.

[03:01:06] Fair.

[03:01:07] I mean, they don't exist anymore, but I think that they did just like, you know, I guess

[03:01:15] how we hunted or almost hunted the sperm whale to extinction by hunting them.

[03:01:24] And that was like recent kind of like 17, 1800s.

[03:01:27] Yeah, but like dragons are mega massive.

[03:01:30] How would we not have found their bones?

[03:01:33] So one of the things was they're not like how they're I guess represented or they're

[03:01:39] not how things I don't know how to say it like they don't breathe fire is what I think.

[03:01:45] So they're more like serpent and they're more so like they would have like two legs

[03:01:51] instead of four and they wouldn't fly around like it's like wellers kind of but they wouldn't

[03:01:59] fly so there's a whole point of dragons and people believing them like we'll around

[03:02:03] well the fact that they breathe fire? Well, I feel like because they're so like if they existed,

[03:02:10] you know, I feel like they've been exaggerated into like flying fire breathing creatures,

[03:02:19] you know. Could it not be a T-Rex?

[03:02:26] People were exaggerating the T-Rex and they were like, trust me, I saw a breathe fire.

[03:02:33] I don't know. It's like how would you think people would see a beaver if it went extinct?

[03:02:41] You know, it's like a giant rat at each trees and builds a whole ecosystem.

[03:02:50] Like what? That's crazy. But I feel like the whole point of dragons is that they're like

[03:02:55] ominous and scary, right? So it would have to be like really big and scary.

[03:03:00] Yeah.

[03:03:30] you

[03:04:00] you

[03:04:30] you

[03:05:00] you

[03:05:30] you

[03:06:00] Does it exist because of the things that are being done like that?

[03:06:04] No, because it could also be red-hiring for something else.

[03:06:07] It could be red-hiring aliens to prevent us from thinking about something else.

[03:06:12] True.

[03:06:14] Well, um, Luki, can I put it up to a poll?

[03:06:19] Uh, yeah. Yeah, put it up to a poll.

[03:06:23] One, if you have been convinced that the mythical creatures exist and that dragons could actually

[03:06:30] be real.

[03:06:31] Two, if you feel like they could either be hallucination, which is why lots of people

[03:06:34] around the world believe them.

[03:06:36] Or, um, wait, what was my other point, hallucination or, oh yeah, T-Rexes!

[03:06:43] That have just been like really exaggerated because they could be like similar to T-Rexes.

[03:06:46] Wait, this is so equal.

[03:06:47] Luke, you're winning!

[03:06:48] Oh!

[03:06:49] Oh

[03:06:51] Look, I think I think you also also won because of a chat favorite. You have a very smooth nice voice

[03:07:01] Nice ways to listen to you. Okay

[03:07:04] Thank you very much for coming on I appreciate it and I see you around

[03:07:08] Oh seven. Thank you. See ya

[03:07:11] Should I feel like I feel like everyone else I've talked to you today. No, no

[03:07:15] Okay, I loved the debate so much I feel like I feel like it's just nice to mix it up because I feel like I feel like everyone else

[03:07:22] It's got like very like passionate squeal into the mic, which is good

[03:07:26] Which is good, but then Luke came on and he was so like um calm and collected. You know what I mean?

[03:07:33] Which is really fumbled

[03:07:35] Guys, I am reading you the entire time. I'm doing debates if anyone says a good point, okay?

[03:07:41] then I will read it out loud.

[03:07:44] Well, I'm not going to read it out loud,

[03:07:46] but I'll incorporate it into my debate.

[03:07:49] If you guys have good points, I will incorporate them.

[03:07:52] What do you mean, sure? I am!

[03:07:57] Maybe I just didn't see a good point.

[03:07:59] I don't remember.

[03:08:00] Joking! Joking, joking, joking.

[03:08:03] Okay, I don't know what happened to my head about that.

[03:08:07] No, I see.

[03:08:08] Would we be able to drag in the next person?

[03:08:11] Maybe possibly.

[03:08:12] I'm going to do a hair flip.

[03:08:13] Hold on, watch this.

[03:08:33] I wasn't going to give you that epic head rock

[03:08:35] I wanted to show that I've done it, but I wasn't going to just give that.

[03:08:45] Devo, hello Devo, how are you doing?

[03:08:50] Hellooo!

[03:08:51] Devo, look at Fluffy.

[03:08:55] Look at all the Fluffies, bro.

[03:08:58] You can't ignore him.

[03:08:59] Hi!

[03:09:00] How are you doing?

[03:09:01] Oh my bad, my bad.

[03:09:02] I was deaf and...

[03:09:03] uh... it's okay i i

[03:09:05] i would definitely

[03:09:08] not not never that i thought i thought they were indefinite automatically

[03:09:12] well uh... never how how you do and you know you do it

[03:09:17] i'm doing pretty good actually i just uh... just want to leave you

[03:09:21] spirit

[03:09:22] can you know it's a lot of work you know that's epic headband

[03:09:26] course ranked you know what it is

[03:09:29] uh... well uh...

[03:09:31] What have you come here to talk about today?

[03:09:35] Yeah, I wanted to do the topic like most people actually settle for partners they don't actually want.

[03:09:43] What? Okay, why'd you think that?

[03:09:47] It's just like, you know, people settle a lot. Like, they think they want someone, but sometimes they're just doing it to kill boredom.

[03:09:53] Like, they just, you know what I mean? They stick with people they're not supposed to stick with for years.

[03:09:57] No, I so, so strongly don't think that.

[03:10:03] That's actually crazy.

[03:10:04] Like, you don't actually think most,

[03:10:06] the majority of people, it's quite a lot of people.

[03:10:09] No, think, okay?

[03:10:11] Think back to when we're like in tribes, right?

[03:10:13] Okay?

[03:10:14] And, and, and walking around all small towns,

[03:10:16] but it's only like in the past like 100 or so years,

[03:10:21] okay, that we've like been exposed to so many people.

[03:10:25] For 99% of human life, you've only had a few potential matches at best.

[03:10:34] You've had that one girl around your age that you can marry, and if you're really lucky,

[03:10:40] you get the choice of three or four.

[03:10:42] Like what do you think?

[03:10:43] Do you think they're perfect?

[03:10:45] Like now we're settling, bro.

[03:10:46] Now we have the whole internet at 8 billion people, not saying that you could pick from

[03:10:54] 8 billion people.

[03:10:55] You have infinitely more options than you've ever had in the rest of human history.

[03:10:58] Just because someone's like, no one's perfect, but that doesn't mean that you're not compatible

[03:11:05] and can make it work.

[03:11:06] Like you can make it work.

[03:11:08] Like you have more options than ever.

[03:11:11] I mean, that's, you're going back to the primitive age.

[03:11:15] Like we could do that with anything.

[03:11:16] No, no, no, no, no.

[03:11:17] Primitive age.

[03:11:18] But we've evolved and we've stayed this way for at least a hundred years, no?

[03:11:22] Like, yeah, up until like 100 years ago, we really did,

[03:11:26] we had very, very, very few options.

[03:11:28] When my granddad was a kid, okay, no one had a car.

[03:11:34] Like, of course we had very few options.

[03:11:37] Like, there were not that many people

[03:11:39] that you could be with.

[03:11:42] Like, just because they weren't perfect

[03:11:44] doesn't mean you're not compatible

[03:11:46] and you can be with them,

[03:11:47] because that's what human's worries done.

[03:11:50] I mean, with this logic, I can just say, yeah, you know, our digestive systems are still primitive and we should also erot me.

[03:11:57] It's not like a tomato tomatoes thing, you know, just because of the

[03:12:00] No, but I'm talking about 100 years ago, you were talking about

[03:12:06] 1000?

[03:12:07] I don't know, a lot more than 100 years ago, okay, brah?

[03:12:10] There's some crazy moments when we're all being

[03:12:12] Way more than 100 years ago, I'm talking about 499% of human existence, okay?

[03:12:17] we have not had as many options.

[03:12:20] And okay, again, I'm not saying like,

[03:12:22] oh my gosh, like hundreds of options falling

[03:12:25] at everyone's feet.

[03:12:26] I'm not saying that, but you do have more options

[03:12:27] than you've ever had in your entire human experience.

[03:12:31] Not your human experience, but like the human experience.

[03:12:34] Okay, everyone here has way more people that they can date

[03:12:38] than they have had before, right?

[03:12:41] And just because that person doesn't look

[03:12:46] like medicine beer and also got a PhD from Oxford and also like like exactly

[03:12:53] same things as you and also this and that and that and exactly what exactly

[03:12:56] what you want doesn't mean that you're settling by being with them like what

[03:13:03] like just because someone isn't perfect doesn't mean you're settling you can

[03:13:06] have a very nice life with I am or a lot of different people I mean how can you

[03:13:12] prove that how can you just say oh you can have a nice life with a lot of people

[03:13:16] because humans have always done that yeah but maybe they were settling as well

[03:13:21] honestly they could have just been settling you don't you know you didn't

[03:13:24] ask them personally what you okay what's your definition of settling then it's

[03:13:28] like yeah I'm settling for I don't know having blue eyes like if I was one in

[03:13:36] I would probably have brown eyes I don't know like who cares like oh I'm

[03:13:41] I'm sattling, I'm happy with my blue eyes, okay?

[03:13:44] I'll be happy about blue eyes, I'll be happy about brown eyes,

[03:13:46] and I'll be happy about green eyes.

[03:13:47] I'm not sattling, like, you can't be happy

[03:13:52] with a lot of different people.

[03:13:53] That's always what humans have done.

[03:13:55] Like, this pursuit to find some perfect person,

[03:14:00] I feel like ultimately,

[03:14:01] probably just makes you less happy.

[03:14:04] Nah, it's like a modern effect, you know?

[03:14:06] You think, people had less choices back then,

[03:14:09] so they weren't really wearing the options.

[03:14:11] So it's like, I guess they can't think of what's settling.

[03:14:13] Yeah, it's bad to weigh the options

[03:14:15] and compare everyone to everyone else,

[03:14:17] and that's not a good thing.

[03:14:20] We can't do anything about it.

[03:14:21] That's how it works now.

[03:14:22] We have so many options, so people are gonna compare,

[03:14:24] and with that is gonna come, you know,

[03:14:26] that feeling of settling.

[03:14:27] They're gonna look at it and say,

[03:14:29] you know, why am I stuck with this person,

[03:14:31] and I feel like there's this other match on an app,

[03:14:35] and I feel like I could be with them,

[03:14:36] things like that, that's a watered match.

[03:14:38] If you're matching with people on apps, while you're in a relationship, that's like your problem though.

[03:14:44] Like that's the problem. You're making the problem feel bad.

[03:14:47] Oh, I didn't say I was doing it. I'm just saying people will be doing that.

[03:14:50] Yeah, but the people that are doing it are making the problem for themselves.

[03:14:54] How? I mean if they feel like they're not getting what they need, right? That's what people do, where they break up.

[03:14:59] Because they're settling.

[03:15:00] No, but they're going to be more miserable in the long run by comparing everyone to their partner.

[03:15:07] No, but there's so many divorce rates, like it's so high now because they just don't feel

[03:15:11] like they're with the partner they want to be, right?

[03:15:13] So a lot of people are, in fact, that's what they feel like they're doing.

[03:15:16] They feel like they're settling, like maybe, you know, you don't want to settle, but they

[03:15:20] feel like they're settling, right?

[03:15:22] And that's what causes so much internal strife, like their relationships, they just,

[03:15:26] you know, they're like, why am I with this person when I could be with this

[03:15:29] other person?

[03:15:30] Sometimes you get bored.

[03:15:31] That's what they say, right?

[03:15:32] Like they get bored or, you know, they're comforted.

[03:15:34] I feel like it's a mindset thing then.

[03:15:36] Like, yeah, I, okay, I see your point and I feel like you're fine.

[03:15:43] I feel like you've, you've, that's a different point.

[03:15:46] If you're like, like people are silly to compare to the pot, like just find someone

[03:15:52] and like find someone that you really like and be happy with the person you

[03:15:55] really like, right?

[03:15:56] Like, like, yes, you can always find someone that is better in this specific

[03:16:00] area, but the whole point is if you like them, then you want to be with

[03:16:03] them, not someone else.

[03:16:04] but do I actually think that people are settling? No. I think like in the

[03:16:10] grand schemes of life you could be happy with a lot of different people because

[03:16:14] that's what people have always been doing. Like you don't need to have a hundred

[03:16:18] options to find one person you like. Like you don't need that.

[03:16:22] It's just like they're they're just you know they're picking and they

[03:16:28] haven't I guess explored what they feel like is enough and then so.

[03:16:31] Or you don't need to explore what's in, like, again.

[03:16:34] It's not me, it's I'm just saying.

[03:16:36] Like, with the more different people that you are like,

[03:16:39] oh, I like this from this person,

[03:16:40] and I like this from this person,

[03:16:42] I like this from this person.

[03:16:43] I feel like the last happy that you're gonna be,

[03:16:45] because you're gonna compare more and more and more people.

[03:16:48] Like.

[03:16:48] Yeah, but you could also confuse like, you know,

[03:16:50] your peace with desire and stuff.

[03:16:52] Like, you could be like, oh, this peacefulness,

[03:16:54] it doesn't equal like you have desire

[03:16:57] for the person you're with.

[03:16:58] So that's where they can get that lack of passion, right?

[03:17:00] like that's why they feel like they could be settling again that's just there's

[03:17:03] so many reasons people could feel like they're settling and that's just that's

[03:17:06] another one of them wait I don't really understand that point sorry like a lot

[03:17:13] of like relationship couples they'll just say stuff like oh the passion it fanned

[03:17:17] out stuff like that because they chose a safe peaceful option so that's just a

[03:17:21] skill death I don't know like like okay but like but like okay well but like

[03:17:27] But like if you feel like the passion has fizzled out like well is just gonna fizzle out with someone else like that's

[03:17:34] 50% your fault like I

[03:17:36] Don't know like like why would that not just happen with someone else eventually like

[03:17:42] You click you click with them right like

[03:17:45] The fast bars need to start with like you don't know

[03:17:49] You might it might have been like a ranged marriage or you're just like it was like fire at the start for like maybe a year or two

[03:17:55] and I were like, how did I get here?

[03:17:57] Yeah, like it probably would be with the next person.

[03:18:01] You never know, the next one could be the one, man.

[03:18:03] Oh my gosh!

[03:18:04] No, but this is the mindset that I feel like

[03:18:06] it would just make people miserable.

[03:18:09] Because yeah, if you're comparing everything,

[03:18:12] then there's not gonna be someone with every,

[03:18:15] like, okay, but like, on the one hand, I say,

[03:18:17] if you're constantly comparing everyone,

[03:18:19] there's gonna be no one with everything.

[03:18:21] But then also it's like, bro,

[03:18:22] if you like someone, you like them.

[03:18:23] who like, why are you comparing?

[03:18:25] I don't know, I've never been in my life like,

[03:18:27] oh, I really like this person

[03:18:29] because I compared them to the other,

[03:18:31] like I compared them to other people.

[03:18:33] Like, yes.

[03:18:35] Well, I compared the size of,

[03:18:38] sorry, that sounds weird if I say that.

[03:18:39] Like, I don't know, the thickness of his eyebrows

[03:18:41] and I like thick eyebrows.

[03:18:43] As a result, he's got the thickest eyebrows

[03:18:45] out to all the other potential candidates.

[03:18:47] As a result, he is the one that I like.

[03:18:49] Like, I like guys

[03:18:52] I mean, I'm proud of the game, but like, I feel like if you're actually like someone,

[03:18:57] like, who is comparing in the first place?

[03:19:01] I mean, it's just so many reasons.

[03:19:03] Like, another one, you know, you can just be, the one that's like really annoying actually

[03:19:07] is like the, what, the family expectations will just be like, oh, you need to get married

[03:19:12] by a certain age, have, you know, a relationship by a certain age, and so maybe rush into

[03:19:16] a relationship and it's like, oh, I did this for my family, and it's like I don't

[03:19:19] even like them and you only realize this after like, you know, a year or two.

[03:19:23] That's another reason that you're, or they just stay 10 years.

[03:19:25] They feel like they settled in.

[03:19:26] They did it just for, you know, their family or whatever.

[03:19:29] And it's like, that's another reason that actually happens pretty often, honestly.

[03:19:33] That's crazy to me.

[03:19:35] That's so crazy.

[03:19:36] Why would you get married because your family tells you to get married?

[03:19:40] I don't know.

[03:19:41] I don't get that.

[03:19:42] I need to have a sit-out conversation with someone who would, like, why would

[03:19:46] you do that?

[03:19:47] I don't know.

[03:19:48] my mom being like, you need to get married and me being like, okay, smiley face, no that's

[03:19:55] such a your decision, that's no one else's decision but yours, but um, but, yeah, the

[03:20:01] pressures, you know, it's like, it's the pressures, you never just been told, you know, the pressure,

[03:20:06] it's your fault though, like it's your fault, you chose the person that you chose, you

[03:20:10] can't be like, oh, it's my mom's fault, it's my mom's fault for pressuring me,

[03:20:15] this fault for happening to that like you chose a person like and now that I

[03:20:19] chose that I realize I'm telling you no but you chose the person it's your

[03:20:23] responsibility you need to take it into your own hands and then and then and then

[03:20:27] if you feel like the spark is that or whatever then it's your problem to

[03:20:30] fix it like like you can't just move on to a new person every time you get

[03:20:34] bored like that's like you got you got like pure pressured into into a

[03:20:42] relationship and then you're like it wear it off you know after like maybe you

[03:20:46] started thinking for yourself your brain started working after two years you're

[03:20:49] like why did I do that now now I'm settling now I have to you know you

[03:20:53] now I have to get out of that relationship sometimes your brain just

[03:20:55] doesn't catch up yet I've seen that happen okay yeah true like I don't know

[03:21:01] if you get in crippling debt because your brain doesn't work you can't

[03:21:04] just be like oh well null and void like get out of that like but you still

[03:21:09] You don't have to face up for the consequences of the things that you've done, like if you,

[03:21:13] you're gonna break someone's heart, bro.

[03:21:15] If you, if you are two years in a relationship, you've wasted two years of that person's life

[03:21:21] to them be like, what's the thing taking long?

[03:21:24] They could just not be in there.

[03:21:25] They could feel like they're settling too.

[03:21:27] There's two sides of the coin.

[03:21:29] So both of them could just be like.

[03:21:30] Okay, then that is so sad.

[03:21:33] If both people in their relationship think they're settling, like what?

[03:21:38] Like actually that happens a lot. That's actually crazy common like people do think that there's like a lot of problems

[03:21:47] What are we doing here and the guy will go behind the girls back the girls

[03:21:51] I'm gonna guys like that that happens a lot actually in real life, too

[03:21:55] You know you've never seen this

[03:21:59] Well, I

[03:22:01] Can I can I can understand that it happens, but um I

[03:22:06] Just feel like

[03:22:08] Yeah, the majority of people that feel like they're settling in

[03:22:13] In I don't know relationships. They're probably especially if most people think that's a thing

[03:22:19] They're probably not they're probably just I don't know like someone else or don't want to put the time in the work

[03:22:24] And like they got with that person for a reason

[03:22:27] so it's like

[03:22:30] Clearly they are a decent amount compatible. Are you gaming while?

[03:22:33] world-bating. No, no, no, I'm not in-game or anything. I was thinking about it, but it is no

[03:22:40] way I could play this. I had your mouse clicking, bro. No, not gaming. It would be like way more

[03:22:47] keyboard sounds. Okay. So far, I feel like it's hard. People sassling relationships, I feel like

[03:22:59] like people might think that they sass all but I don't think they actually do.

[03:23:05] It's my personal opinion, I think maybe the internet gives unrealistic standards and you

[03:23:11] see the best of lots of different people so you're like, I can do better than this person

[03:23:16] because I see this one girl who can do this and this one girl who can do this and this

[03:23:22] one girl who can do this as a result, I can get someone that can do all three but

[03:23:28] The reality of the situation is, you can be happy with the person you're with, IMO, unless

[03:23:34] they're abusive or something.

[03:23:36] Just, I don't know.

[03:23:38] IMO!

[03:23:39] I think they should not just leave every time they get bored.

[03:23:42] You don't think the general population settles like that?

[03:23:44] I think they do, honestly.

[03:23:46] What do you mean the general population settles?

[03:23:50] That doesn't even make any sense, because you can't have two people settling in

[03:23:53] a relationship, so it at least has to be less than 50% of people settling.

[03:23:57] Just for that to make that make sense.

[03:24:01] Well let's just say people are feeling that they're settling right in the majority.

[03:24:07] It would just be like a, I feel like if people had the option to go for something they think

[03:24:12] is better and they were guaranteed it, they probably would go for it honestly.

[03:24:18] That's why the majority of people would cheat if they could.

[03:24:21] No, not cheating, it's like if they said, oh if you break up with your significant

[03:24:25] other you know you could be with this person that like you really like like

[03:24:29] this has this person has all these qualities you want more than your

[03:24:33] significant other so that's an option they would probably take if they if they

[03:24:38] have maybe I'm just naive right maybe I am naive in my view okay of the world

[03:24:47] But I feel like humans don't, like it's not like every human just likes, like it's not

[03:24:57] like, okay, every girl say, okay, it's not like every girl falls in love with the best,

[03:25:08] most compatible, most attractive guy that they've ever met.

[03:25:12] I don't think that's the case.

[03:25:13] I think they fall in love with, I feel like people fall in love with someone that they feel

[03:25:20] like they can painably get because that's just like how people have evolved to do.

[03:25:27] You fall in love with someone that you can actually see yourself with.

[03:25:33] And when you really like someone, then you want to be with them, not just the best on

[03:25:38] stats person.

[03:25:39] Like yeah, there are some delusional people, but those delusional people are probably just

[03:25:44] going to stay delusional and single.

[03:25:48] I feel like most people end up really liking someone that they feel like they can actually

[03:25:53] be with.

[03:25:54] I mean yeah, the first half is pretty standard, you know, it makes a lot of sense.

[03:25:59] I like this person, but again, you're just forgetting about that drop off.

[03:26:03] After two years, that first person you could have been in love with, you could

[03:26:07] just be so tired of it.

[03:26:09] don't know yourself two years into a relationship. So it's just a lot of people

[03:26:13] are in these long-term relationships and once they get to a certain point that's

[03:26:16] when the feeling of settling kicks in. It's like that's just how it works and

[03:26:19] that's what the majority of people would feel like that. They're in a

[03:26:23] relationship for so long maybe they're just they're not even like they hate

[03:26:26] their partner. People just want novelty. Maybe they're bored. We have so much

[03:26:29] like TikTok you know stuff around. So maybe they're like I've been in this

[03:26:32] relationship for like 30 years. Am I settling? Like stuff like that and

[03:26:36] It's such a toxic mindset though, like if you're moving on because you're bored you're forever like you are forever gonna do that

[03:26:43] Like you are forever gonna be in that cycle like

[03:26:47] Like I mean if you get bored two years in you're just always gonna get bored two years in and I feel like yeah

[03:26:53] There are gonna be people like in like our like our generation people that I do doing that because you know

[03:26:59] Grandparent generation that wasn't the culture our parents generation that wasn't as much the culture

[03:27:03] I feel like because that is more the culture now that will happen like that will be people at like 90 years old

[03:27:08] When my 90 years old that will have been a relationship for like two years two years two years two years

[03:27:18] Okay, chat one if you think that people like that majority of people are

[03:27:24] Sattling in relationships

[03:27:26] To if you feel like majority of people are not settling they get into relationship with people that they want to be in a

[03:27:32] relationship with, not people that they can't. Wait, that's so sad! What? Oh my gosh. Wait,

[03:27:44] that's so sad. That's so sad. No, no, oh my gosh, I just want to cry. I'm going to

[03:27:51] like, like imagine you find out that, like, okay, imagine you're like, I'm obsessed

[03:27:56] with someone, like you're obsessed with them. Oh my gosh, why am I, why am I, my eyes

[03:27:59] I was literally watering that.

[03:27:59] It makes me so sad.

[03:28:00] Oh, I'm sorry.

[03:28:01] No, but like, oh my gosh, I don't know why.

[03:28:03] I just like put myself in those people's shoes.

[03:28:06] Imagine you're like obsessed with someone, okay?

[03:28:08] Like you really like them.

[03:28:10] Like you really, really, really like them.

[03:28:13] And you start dating them.

[03:28:17] But what you don't know is the only reason

[03:28:19] that they're dating you is because they settled,

[03:28:23] because they CBA or confide anyone better than you.

[03:28:26] You know, it's so crazy.

[03:28:27] That is actually so common.

[03:28:29] I don't even have to imagine.

[03:28:30] I just know people like that.

[03:28:32] They can just tell me the story.

[03:28:33] Like, yeah, bro, I was with her, and she just told me.

[03:28:36] Dude, they tell her.

[03:28:37] They tell them to their face.

[03:28:38] They're like, yeah, I was just with you

[03:28:40] because I couldn't find anyone better.

[03:28:41] I've literally seen that happen.

[03:28:43] Like, it's actually pretty messed up.

[03:28:45] But, yeah, that's awesome.

[03:28:46] That's so cooked.

[03:28:48] Oh my gosh, I actually feel like I'm too sensitive

[03:28:50] of a human being to be in this world.

[03:28:51] I think if someone told me that,

[03:28:52] I actually would never redeem my.

[03:28:56] Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

[03:28:57] I'm glad I haven't met those types of women.

[03:29:00] Thanks for Lee.

[03:29:01] Lee, well, um, Diva, thank you so much for coming on.

[03:29:05] Congratulations, you were the first win of the day.

[03:29:09] Let's go!

[03:29:11] That was my first loss of the day, so, uh, great.

[03:29:15] Well, Diva, I hope you have a great day.

[03:29:17] I hope, uh, I feel bad and I hope I didn't ruin your, like, perspective.

[03:29:20] Nah, nah, look, look, actually I fall there.

[03:29:22] People don't sell, man.

[03:29:23] People fall in love.

[03:29:24] They live happily ever forever.

[03:29:26] Everyone finds that so made and they fool in love. Yeah, choo choo choo.

[03:29:31] Alright then.

[03:29:32] Here Andy, what do you want?

[03:29:35] Wait, that's actually, I'm like, you know when you're just like, here's something chat and you just get emotional.

[03:29:40] After this debate, I feel like I've settled to watching Lydia Violet's streams.

[03:29:46] Whoa! Whoa! Okay, that is...

[03:29:50] What do you mean, Sadwab?

[03:29:53] Chat, do you watch the stream because you can't find anything better, Sadwab?

[03:29:58] Do you actually hate watching, but you just CBA to look for a different stream, so that's why you're here?

[03:30:07] XQC isn't live, are you?

[03:30:09] I feel like if I was chosen, I was settled for pointless.

[03:30:13] Wait, I wonder how many people are watching right now

[03:30:17] because their favorite streamer isn't live.

[03:30:19] Oh, that's crazy.

[03:30:22] I mean, that's really gonna be more loud

[03:30:23] because I bet that is the case.

[03:30:28] Okay, you know what?

[03:30:29] I reckon, E-Rob waiting room.

[03:30:32] I reckon that if every single streamer

[03:30:35] on the whole platform went live all at once right now,

[03:30:38] we would more than 50% of people go.

[03:30:43] That's crazy. That's crazy. Why am I, why am I digging myself into pushing more?

[03:30:48] I should be mulling the lawn, but here I am watching Lydia.

[03:30:51] Thanks. Um, yeah, that's...

[03:30:54] Thank you!

[03:30:55] Thank you for today.

[03:30:57] Thank you.

[03:30:59] No, I see 10 30.

[03:31:09] Literally how is it 10 30?

[03:31:10] Um, no, I see, uh, would you be able to, uh, hello, how are you?

[03:31:16] Hello.

[03:31:17] Hello.

[03:31:18] I'm good.

[03:31:19] I'm good.

[03:31:20] I'm good.

[03:31:21] How are you?

[03:31:22] Yeah.

[03:31:23] I'm also excellent.

[03:31:24] Yeah.

[03:31:25] That's good.

[03:31:26] That's good.

[03:31:27] Well, yeah.

[03:31:28] I didn't expect to be chosen so fast, like that was a bit too fast.

[03:31:33] Alright, so basically, the topic I have, hello can you hear me?

[03:31:38] Yes.

[03:31:39] Alright, so the topic I have is do you think looks affect everyday life and life in general?

[03:31:46] Like, what's your take on that?

[03:31:50] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they do.

[03:31:53] Yeah, so basically, like, have you heard the term black pill?

[03:31:58] No.

[03:31:59] No.

[03:32:00] So basically, you definitely saw the looks maxing.

[03:32:04] Yes, yes, yes, I've had looks maxing, but like, you know, I haven't gone into the depths

[03:32:10] of looks maxing, I've just like seen the memes of looks maxing.

[03:32:14] Yeah, basically, so basically what they're saying is that black pill is basically that

[03:32:21] looks affect everything in life to how you're respected, to how you're going to get your

[03:32:26] job.

[03:32:27] Everything affects everything in life or posture affects everything in life, the way you speak

[03:32:32] affects everything in life, how you articulate affects everything in life, education affects

[03:32:36] everything in life.

[03:32:37] Yeah, but you can say a lot of things though.

[03:32:39] Yeah, but what I'm saying is like looks affect the most in your life because when you present

[03:32:46] yourself the first thing they're going to see is your face.

[03:32:49] Well, yeah, if you present yourself in person, but if you're like, I don't know, doing a job,

[03:32:55] then I would say education probably affects the most.

[03:32:58] Well, yes, yes, but someone's gonna hire.

[03:33:01] I mean, I'm not on that side, I'm just debating for them.

[03:33:04] But let's say if two people went to apply for a job, and one of them was like, good

[03:33:10] looking, like Brad Pitt, same education, same everything, who do you think, like

[03:33:15] someone who looks like Brad Pitt or someone who looks about who you think will get

[03:33:18] the job. Depends what the job is. Like any job. Depends what the job is. I can see it.

[03:33:26] I can see in a lot of jobs like. I don't know. He seems to be way too much about his life.

[03:33:34] And not enough about, you know, his job or like, I don't know. It doesn't look nerdy

[03:33:40] enough or he doesn't look smart enough. Like I don't know. I feel like people have a lot

[03:33:43] of different biases in the world.

[03:33:46] Exactly.

[03:33:47] I think there is a tendency on the whole, on average, to slightly prefer attractive people,

[03:33:54] but I do not think it's...

[03:33:56] It's actually...

[03:33:57] Bro, at the end of the day, if you have better skills and you're better for the job than

[03:34:02] the person that's slightly worse and attractive, I feel like you're probably gonna get the

[03:34:06] job.

[03:34:07] Yes, but at the first impression, they're not gonna see that you have those skills

[03:34:12] They are applying for the job. They're gonna see the skills. You have to get the interview on the first place

[03:34:19] Yeah, but you if you're well spoken you should be able to get the interview like it definitely

[03:34:24] Definitely does not affect more than other things. Also at second point looks fade like

[03:34:31] You're not gonna look good forever

[03:34:33] so for majority in real life looks are definitely not gonna affect everything because

[03:34:37] The majority of your life is not going to look good.

[03:34:41] Yeah, but they affect a lot of things.

[03:34:44] If you're ugly and you live a teenage life,

[03:34:47] you're not going to experience the same life as someone who's

[03:34:50] gorgeous.

[03:34:51] No, you're not going to experience the same life,

[03:34:54] but that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be worse.

[03:34:57] It is.

[03:34:58] Oh, why is it going to be worse?

[03:35:01] Because first of all, people are going to make fun of you.

[03:35:04] Kids are age.

[03:35:05] It's going to be hard to make friends.

[03:35:07] People are going to make fun of you because of the way you look.

[03:35:09] Yes, yes.

[03:35:11] Okay, first of all, that's horrible.

[03:35:12] Second of all, I'm not talking about like, like I'm talking about just like the average person versus Prissy privilege.

[03:35:19] Okay, I do not think that that you would necessarily have a better life with Prissy privilege.

[03:35:27] I don't think the popular kids were on the whole happier than any of the other kids at school.

[03:35:33] Like, yeah, maybe for a while when they're like, woo, I'm in a popular group and I care about

[03:35:37] popularity but like like that was more drama and gossiping and meanness in that

[03:35:42] group than like any other group in the school at my past no school but I feel

[03:35:45] like that is pretty all-around like mean girl yeah but it's still like like I

[03:35:52] don't know in my day like I go to high school now I'm a third year the way

[03:35:58] people other people uglier people than me like I'm saying that the ones that

[03:36:02] have that look a bit different that don't look you know don't aren't

[03:36:05] the average looks they get treated so much differently than let's say a fucking insanely

[03:36:11] gorgeous guy you know it's like they and I difference to how they get treated I mean they

[03:36:17] can still have friends and shit but they still like

[03:36:19] but you're saying like the like the it's mean I don't want to say insanely ugly guy

[03:36:30] like you just said I'm sure you've been attracted to a lot of people but let's okay

[03:36:35] Let's let's rephrase and I'm gonna call the insane insane the ugly guy. Okay, according to you

[03:36:40] I don't know what he looks like. He may look very attractive. I'm gonna call him guy. Hey, okay

[03:36:46] Okay, and then I'm gonna call the insane the attractive guy guy B. Okay. I'm not talking about like

[03:36:54] Like I'm talking about on average the average person there are gonna be way more things in their life

[03:37:01] that affect

[03:37:03] their life

[03:37:04] Compared to the way they look. It's really not that big of a factor compared to so many other things as

[03:37:12] especially

[03:37:13] Because there are so many different tastes in the world. I like it's crazy

[03:37:19] Like just some people what maybe like really unattractive is really attractive to other people like it depends on who you're talking to

[03:37:27] Looks are subjective very so subjective

[03:37:30] Sore subjective and I know there are people like yeah, but like the pretty pie people I love pretty people and the ugly people

[03:37:35] I'll go people. That's not true. Look that's so effective

[03:37:38] I actually I feel like I feel like because I'm chronically online

[03:37:42] I realize how subjective looks are but trust me that like you can think you're the ugliest person in the world

[03:37:48] There are so many people that find you attractive and you can think you're like those attractors in the world

[03:37:52] There are so many people that think you're ugly like they are

[03:37:55] so much more subjective than I ever realized growing up in a school where

[03:38:00] everyone like thinks the same and and was raised the same and was in the same

[03:38:05] town. When you get into real life you realize it's so subjective. It's so

[03:38:10] subjective. Trust me. Yeah but it's actually been proven, like scientifically

[03:38:16] proven that people are attracted to the same thing. So basically the same

[03:38:20] face shape, same shape. It's most of the people find that attractive which

[03:38:24] like 95% of the people. The 5% don't find it attractive or like lie probably. There's

[03:38:32] been a study that's let's document and you can find it on Google that finds that

[03:38:37] there's been a study that's documented that has proven that that the earth is

[03:38:41] flat. No, no, no. People, people, people find. No, no, no, no. It's not subjective.

[03:38:49] Okay, okay. You can say something like on the whole people find attractive the

[03:38:53] average of the faces they've seen, right? Something like that is true for most people.

[03:39:00] But the average of the faces that people have seen is very different depending on what country

[03:39:08] you live in, depending on everything. Like people see a lot of very different faces depending

[03:39:13] on where they are in the world, like what city they're in, what the culture is like

[03:39:18] in that place. Like, what? The average of the faces that you've seen is not the same for everyone.

[03:39:26] Yeah, but you get treated so much differently when you're ugly. And like, it's so different from

[03:39:33] when you're ugly and you're pretty. Like, it's night and day difference. I don't know if you

[03:39:40] You were ever ugly as a child or something, but it's just-

[03:39:44] I was so friggin' nutty, I was so nutty-

[03:39:47] Yeah, but nerdy doesn't mean you were ugly.

[03:39:50] Okay, well I'd never had a boy like me ever in my life, and trust me, I tried.

[03:39:54] Like, I-I like-

[03:39:55] Oh my god, I keep on- I keep on-

[03:39:57] I had been only rejected my entire childhood, okay, and...

[03:40:03] It is what it is.

[03:40:04] I think I probably would have been rejected my whole childhood if I'm being honest,

[03:40:08] model look like if I was a ten out of ten I still think I would have been

[03:40:11] rejected by entire childhood I think it was just no no no but I think it was

[03:40:16] if I'm being honest I think it would oh okay I did not say that I was ugly as a

[03:40:23] kid but I was very nerdy as a kid but I think that I think that it was because

[03:40:27] I didn't talk to guys I just liked them and then I love it

[03:40:36] If I had more confidence

[03:40:39] It's not it's not growth nothing to do with looks if I had more confidence if I knew how to talk listen

[03:40:46] Okay, I'll know how you differently different compared to how I looked like it wasn't about that. It was about it was about

[03:40:55] confidence in

[03:40:57] Myself like and anyone is about confidence and knowing how to talk to people and start the conversation in the first place

[03:41:03] well confidence mainly comes from especially when you're a kid yes because

[03:41:12] looks the matter the most when you're a kid

[03:41:17] social in the social circle yes especially in high school okay and what

[03:41:26] happens well then everything's normal it looks still affect but not as much as

[03:41:31] as in high school.

[03:41:33] Disagree.

[03:41:35] I think people that care about looks care about looks and people that don't care about looks

[03:41:38] don't care about looks.

[03:41:39] Okay.

[03:41:40] But looks are so subjective.

[03:41:41] Wait, so let me ask you.

[03:41:42] No, they're not.

[03:41:43] No, they're not.

[03:41:44] You're not trying to find like a like a like a like a long term partner when you're

[03:41:52] in school.

[03:41:53] I so strongly disagree when you get out of school.

[03:41:55] There's so many guys or like girls in the world that like I only want someone

[03:41:59] that's six foot tall. I only want someone with like, I don't know, that's like, I've had

[03:42:05] a temporary like, like, disagree, disagree. I think for some people, looks always matter,

[03:42:10] but it's not the number one feature. Yeah, but you never, you never experienced

[03:42:15] what it's like being ugly. Like, I'll think you ever experienced that.

[03:42:20] I was not good looking when I was a kid. I was not. And I didn't try to be because

[03:42:27] I didn't care. No, yeah, but listen, you're saying all this when you're this good looking and you were never

[03:42:34] Like you were never ugly. You don't you don't know what you don't know

[03:42:37] But we're talking about the average person for the average person looks is not the most important thing

[03:42:42] Like yeah, I

[03:42:45] Unfortunately for someone

[03:42:48] And they walk around like Pinocchio like yes looks affect their life

[03:42:52] Unfortunately, but for the average person there are a million different things that affect life

[03:42:59] So much more you're gonna picture of what I look like when I was a kid. You know what?

[03:43:03] I'm gonna do it. Okay. This is what I look okay. Sorry. It's gonna. It's gonna take me a minute sir. Sorry

[03:43:09] I'll just I'll do I'll carry on debating you but I'm on my phone because I'm looking at a photo

[03:43:14] Okay, because someone who experienced both sides of the spectrum like being only and being good looking like I'm telling you

[03:43:21] It's not in the difference.

[03:43:24] It's so like the way you get treated is so different.

[03:43:33] Do you think that it's the way that you hold yourself

[03:43:36] and you treat yourself and have more confidence?

[03:43:40] Because of how you look.

[03:43:41] Because of how you look.

[03:43:43] Yes.

[03:43:44] So it's not, so it's your mindset.

[03:43:47] It's your mindset on the situation.

[03:43:49] is not actually about the looks.

[03:43:54] Like there's a lot of people with a lot of confidence

[03:43:57] and not confidence that is not correlated to like,

[03:44:01] how they look.

[03:44:01] Yeah, but that, yeah, but that's just me.

[03:44:03] Doesn't mean it's same for everyone.

[03:44:06] That's just me.

[03:44:09] Okay, don't you think though

[03:44:12] that there are lots of other things

[03:44:16] that would also improve your life as much if not more.

[03:44:21] Oh my gosh, I can't find.

[03:44:24] I don't wanna give you a really bad one.

[03:44:27] Which these all are that I'm scrolling through.

[03:44:29] I wanna give you a semi-bad one.

[03:44:32] Okay.

[03:44:40] Okay, I sent.

[03:44:41] Okay, I'm gonna put it in the discord.

[03:44:46] And you show them stream. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll show them. Okay. Um, buddy. Also,

[03:44:59] okay, really quick, just because I'm gonna lie in bed at night, okay, and cringe if I

[03:45:03] don't say this. Bro, when I would say, okay, you were like, you were like, oh, um, like,

[03:45:10] what were you like as a kid? And I was like, I was really ugly. I got rejected

[03:45:12] by every guy, okay?

[03:45:14] And then like full people in chat that were like relevant.

[03:45:19] Bro, I was always being requested

[03:45:20] that I had just been asked to meet.

[03:45:22] I was saying, yeah, okay, sorry,

[03:45:24] that just rage raised me so hard.

[03:45:25] Okay, sorry.

[03:45:28] I wasn't doing it to compliment fun.

[03:45:30] I was doing it to prove my point, okay?

[03:45:34] She can't find any sharp pictures, bro.

[03:45:35] It was not a compliment.

[03:45:39] Did you find any, bro?

[03:45:40] Can you send me?

[03:45:41] Yes, yes, I just heard that one.

[03:45:45] All right, that's enough.

[03:45:47] Yeah, but you're not ugly.

[03:45:49] How old are you in this picture?

[03:45:53] Hold on, let me get it.

[03:45:59] I was like 13.

[03:46:06] 13? Yeah, but that's before high school.

[03:46:09] I was in secondary school. I was in high school. High school starts earlier in England. I was in high school

[03:46:16] Was that like grade 11 or 10?

[03:46:19] It's different don't worry about it, but I was 13. So I was in high school. Okay. I was not cool

[03:46:28] but I had friends and

[03:46:30] I just didn't really think that much about looks to be honest. I was just focused on

[03:46:37] getting good grades and that's what I really cared about because I wanted to do

[03:46:45] what I wanted to do for a job and you need a good grade for that education

[03:46:50] which I think for most people affects our lives a lot more than looks. Yes, I was 13!

[03:47:00] what do you mean? What a glow down. You look a bit different, but it's not even you.

[03:47:11] Oh my god. No one cares about looks at 13. Yeah. I didn't come out all the way through. I

[03:47:21] like, yeah, I wear makeup now because I find it fun and people stare at my face a lot. And I'm

[03:47:25] I'm on stream to lots of people who are staring at my face, okay?

[03:47:29] But like, on a day to day, when I'm not streaming,

[03:47:33] I don't really care that much.

[03:47:35] Like, I didn't care about throughout school, okay?

[03:47:37] Because I just don't think that it is the biggest factor.

[03:47:43] I just don't think it's the biggest factor.

[03:47:46] Oh my gosh, so many people are saying that's not me.

[03:47:48] To be fair, some people look more ugly

[03:47:50] as they edit pointless. This is crazy.

[03:47:52] Generate, what do you mean it's not me?

[03:47:55] I'll send you another picture that that is

[03:47:58] I don't know the

[03:48:01] Oh my gosh, what is this?

[03:48:04] Loki, this is probably the difference between both looks

[03:48:07] The Y versus Q

[03:48:10] Smart versus smarter

[03:48:11] Oh my gosh, I'm actually taking this character

[03:48:13] You found the Y especially Cam, bro

[03:48:16] No, no, I'm I'm I don't want one that's that bad

[03:48:20] Um

[03:48:23] You did it on purpose

[03:48:25] Okay, this is also me and my new super dry drip.

[03:48:33] I just got super dry drip and I was showing it off.

[03:48:37] Luckily in this picture, my teeth are a little better.

[03:48:43] There we go.

[03:48:53] Okay, there you go.

[03:48:58] Does that prove that it's me now?

[03:49:00] Great.

[03:49:01] Um, okay.

[03:49:02] The fact that you're going aw is crazy.

[03:49:06] It's crazy.

[03:49:07] It's crazy.

[03:49:08] It's not ugly.

[03:49:09] It's not ugly.

[03:49:10] It's crazy.

[03:49:11] Um, but it didn't affect my life.

[03:49:15] Like, oh my gosh.

[03:49:16] I just had my group of friends.

[03:49:18] I was, I think in my opinion, I think in my personal opinion, I was like, oh my gosh,

[03:49:22] opinion, I was happier. It sounds like coke when I say it, but in my humble opinion,

[03:49:28] I think that I was happier than a lot of the girls in the popular group who were really,

[03:49:38] really pretty. They had boyfriends, and their boyfriends would cheat on them, and their

[03:49:43] friends would talk behind their back. I didn't have any of that. I just had a group

[03:49:48] a friend that was wholesome like and it was vibe and I don't Lydia could wear a

[03:49:57] trash bag and she would still slay like I don't I wouldn't change it to anything

[03:50:03] like I thought that it was my thing anyways okay we should we should we

[03:50:07] should pull this um thank you very much for coming I'm actually gonna get this

[03:50:11] picture off the screen now um chat your school and this girl wants to be

[03:50:16] be your friend. Press 1 if you become friends.

[03:50:21] Okay, well then how do I, uh, let me just go down again. Um, okay chat 1, no no no, hold

[03:50:28] on, hold on, we're gonna start the debate again and then I'll do that question afterwards,

[03:50:31] okay. 1, if you think that your looks affect life more than any other factor, 2, if

[03:50:42] do you feel like there are much more important things?

[03:50:45] Like education, like personality, like confidence.

[03:50:48] I am more, I think confidence, education and confidence.

[03:50:52] It depends what you're going for.

[03:50:54] I think, yeah, it depends what you're going for.

[03:50:57] Also, I feel like looks are such a hard thing to say

[03:50:59] because looks are so subjective.

[03:51:01] Like so subjective.

[03:51:03] Two, one!

[03:51:04] Oh my God, I won!

[03:51:06] Yes, sir.

[03:51:07] How much?

[03:51:08] How much?

[03:51:09] So close, so close.

[03:51:09] It was basically 50-50.

[03:51:41] I

[03:51:43] Like I couldn't like smile properly because my braces hurt. I think I'm on this I got I got my super dry

[03:51:51] Hold on what day is this?

[03:52:11] 25th of January, 2016.

[03:52:16] Oh my gosh, that's about to be 25th of January, 2016.

[03:52:19] What is life? What is life? What is life? What is life?

[03:52:23] Guys, it's about to be 25th of January, 2026.

[03:52:27] This was 2016.

[03:52:34] That means I was 13. It was my 5th birthday.

[03:52:36] Honestly, I would have you as a friend then,

[03:52:38] No, I wouldn't get bullied and you would instead joke him.

[03:52:42] No, you know what?

[03:52:43] Oh my gosh, this all comes back to me now.

[03:52:45] I was on Lauren on my birthday.

[03:52:50] Wait.

[03:52:52] Oh my gosh.

[03:52:54] I was on Lauren on my birthday.

[03:52:56] No, you know why?

[03:52:58] Because I got a Valentine's Day card.

[03:53:03] This was the year before.

[03:53:08] I got a Valentine's Day card one year, and then I didn't get a Valentine's Day card the next year,

[03:53:14] and I thought it was from my crush. Anyways, I went a bit sicker, like, like, like, I don't want to say depressed,

[03:53:20] because I wasn't like depressed. I was like 13 year old depressed, like, just like, you know, like, no one, you know what I mean.

[03:53:27] Anyways, so I like deleted all social medias, I didn't have social media for two years,

[03:53:30] and I spent both of those birthdays on my own.

[03:53:32] So I was a blur in on this one, and it passed the time you're in.

[03:53:39] 2016.

[03:53:41] Yeah.

[03:53:43] Yeah.

[03:53:45] Um.

[03:53:47] We move on though.

[03:53:50] It's like, it's like so nice to like see, like,

[03:54:01] See like you know it's like stuff you thought was like really deep

[03:54:06] Back in the day

[03:54:07] Like and then you look back and you're like, bro. I like barely even remember why I was sad

[03:54:12] You know, I mean like I barely even like I

[03:54:16] Like I barely care. I don't care. I don't care anymore. You know what I mean?

[03:54:21] I had so much when I was that eight and now I don't care and I bet you chat in ten years from now

[03:54:27] Okay, the

[03:54:29] So much of the stuff that's weighing on your mind and you think about every single day

[03:54:32] Okay, you're gonna look back on and be like oh my gosh. I can't so much about that and and and oh my gosh

[03:54:38] I can't believe that I was so diffed, you know

[03:54:40] It's such a refreshing thought. Oh my gosh

[03:54:43] It's so nice. I mean I look back and I was like yeah, I was sad, but

[03:54:48] We move you know, we can see you now the prettiest streamer on Twitch saying

[03:54:54] Yeah, I don't think that's true, but um, thanks

[03:54:57] Okay, okay, okay, it's 10 to 11. That's what I care about now. That's what I care about

[03:55:05] now. Noisy pie. It's funny opposite for some people like me. I liked it when I was younger

[03:55:12] pointless. Yeah, but there's still things that you really cared about when you were

[03:55:15] younger that I bet you don't care about now. Like you were so you were so annoyed

[03:55:19] or whatever about back then and you don't care anymore. ETA. Thank you. Thank you.

[03:55:26] ETA, thank you for coming on.

[03:55:28] Thank you.

[03:55:30] Hey.

[03:55:32] Hey.

[03:55:34] How are you doing?

[03:55:36] I'm doing pretty good.

[03:55:38] I'm a little terrified because I've never talked in front of this many people before.

[03:55:42] Oh, it's just me and you.

[03:55:44] It's just me and you.

[03:55:46] Don't worry.

[03:55:48] Don't worry. It's okay.

[03:55:50] I'll deal with them.

[03:55:52] Well,

[03:55:54] Well, if they act up, let's just say, okay, UTA, what brings you here today?

[03:56:01] What would you like to debate about?

[03:56:03] Okay, so at first I was going to debate about something a little talked about too much, you know, social media.

[03:56:12] But then I decided to make something a little more personal.

[03:56:17] I like to think about things futuristic, but also kind of things that make you think about

[03:56:30] people as a collective might do if things were different.

[03:56:38] Okay, okay.

[03:56:40] So, I'm going to read out the topic.

[03:56:46] If human technological advancement was at its absolute, where anything and everything is

[03:56:52] at one's fingertips, would people live maximally or minimally?

[03:56:57] Well, what do you think?

[03:57:06] Honestly, I think that I'm kind of on the same page as you.

[03:57:21] I have no idea.

[03:57:22] I'm remixing with my foot opinion about this.

[03:57:24] I just think it's a great topic to talk about.

[03:57:29] I would say that it would be mixed.

[03:57:31] I think personally, I would want to live independently

[03:57:35] because there would just be so much at once

[03:57:39] that you'd want things to last,

[03:57:42] something that feels interesting.

[03:57:45] Because if you have everything

[03:57:47] and you do everything at once,

[03:57:48] there's nothing left to do.

[03:57:52] Okay.

[03:57:55] Wow, ETA, you are such a good pundra.

[03:57:58] I've never thought about this before.

[03:58:01] I think that the average person would be greedy, yep, take all the blueberries in the shop

[03:58:12] because there's infinite blueberries in it.

[03:58:14] Okay.

[03:58:15] Okay, so natural human tendencies, got it?

[03:58:20] Yep.

[03:58:21] Okay.

[03:58:22] Because I left a lot of caveats in this question because, okay, I'm so sorry.

[03:58:37] Don't worry.

[03:58:42] What's a caveat?

[03:58:43] Chata, is it like cavea?

[03:58:48] Don't worry.

[03:58:49] Don't worry. If you're nervous, it's okay. Don't worry about it.

[03:58:54] Okay, okay. Got you.

[03:58:57] Okay.

[03:58:59] You think that inevitably people take it all?

[03:59:04] Yeah.

[03:59:07] So what happens when everything is taken?

[03:59:10] Well, I thought everything was human efficiency maximus, so we have infinite.

[03:59:16] Okay. Okay. Have you ever heard of the, oh man, what is it, the Kardashev skill?

[03:59:26] No.

[03:59:27] Okay.

[03:59:28] What does he mean by take it 12?

[03:59:30] I don't know if you want to look it up, but I can give you like a run over.

[03:59:36] Okay.

[03:59:37] It's essentially like levels of civilization. So the first level or type is, you know,

[03:59:45] you know controlling everything in our planet holy so we can control every

[03:59:49] natural phenomenon in our planet. Type 2 is you're able to control the energy of

[03:59:57] stars and problems of the solar system. Type 3 would be controlling the energy

[04:00:02] of the scale of a whole galaxy. So you're saying we're like the top, the top

[04:00:07] top level. Yes. Yeah, why not just take it all, Gachi? Yeah, I'm thinking, okay, so I

[04:00:16] was debating if I wanted to start with type 4 because it's more realistic. It's more

[04:00:21] on like the Star Trek level. You've watched Star Trek, right? Yeah. Okay, let's just

[04:00:27] say it's on that level where you have replicators where you essentially, you can cook a meal

[04:00:37] No?

[04:00:38] Guys, today I said I would just print them in a book.

[04:00:40] Oh, the other day I said I was in Eastern Europe.

[04:00:42] Do you think that people put the mail or they just, you know, sit there and print it out?

[04:00:47] Sorry, that took me a while to get to you.

[04:00:51] Print.

[04:00:52] Do you think they would print?

[04:00:55] Yeah.

[04:00:56] I don't know.

[04:00:58] That feels really boring.

[04:01:00] No?

[04:01:02] It's not.

[04:01:04] Okay, this I guess my question is a little all over the place because there's so many different things you can think about

[04:01:15] It's okay. Don't worry. I think I think I think this is

[04:01:20] This is a really good question. I find it hard to debate about it with you because

[04:01:27] Because it's too big for my brain

[04:01:34] But thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it very, very, very much. You know, I just...

[04:01:40] Yeah, of course.

[04:01:41] You're a very smart dude. You're a very smart dude. I see your ads.

[04:01:45] Nancy, can we bring the last... Oh, Grinch! Hello Grinch! Actually, maybe not the last

[04:01:55] person. I don't know. I'm finding so hard. I just... I'm sorry, Gene! Hello Grinch!

[04:02:00] Hello!

[04:02:01] that name. Well, you know, for the festive season, some people go for a Santerie. And

[04:02:10] you go very against Santerie. I mean, Lydia, you know me, I, given a completely free choice,

[04:02:18] I will always go for the T's for the, you know, for the dark side. Yeah, team troll

[04:02:22] all the way. Well, as a, as a, as a dear angel who has never wronged, okay, I cannot

[04:02:29] relate but I'm agreed to disagree I guess. So Grinch, what would you like to debate about

[04:02:34] today?

[04:02:35] So I thought it would be interesting to talk about actually something from your recent

[04:02:41] experience that you've been learning to drive on stream using video games and I think that's

[04:02:45] proof that you should never be allowed to pass your test.

[04:02:51] What if I'm trolling?

[04:02:53] No, no, no, no. You said you're a wholesome angel. You can't troll and be wholesome angel.

[04:03:00] Maybe it's all an act. Maybe. Do you reckon?

[04:03:06] Maybe my name isn't Lydia. Maybe it's Melinda. Maybe you're actually an AI. Maybe we're all dragons.

[04:03:12] I'm a wife and I have ten children off stream. And this is a little setup, you know?

[04:03:19] Okay, if your argument is that nothing is real, then this is going to be an interesting debate.

[04:03:26] At its heart, video games are supposed to make you better at driving, right?

[04:03:32] That's kind of the idea of going in and doing some of these simulations.

[04:03:36] So I guess my question is, what went wrong here?

[04:03:40] Because you seem to have developed this magnetic attraction to other cars in the scenery,

[04:03:46] Which is a little bit terrifying in the context of you actually having a car and driving around the US on the other side of the road, remember?

[04:03:54] I do feel sorry for what you're going to inflict on the poor citizens of the United States over the next few years.

[04:04:01] Well, I will only inflict it on them after passing my driving test.

[04:04:06] test. But surely you aren't doubting the abilities of the wholesome, trained driving instructors

[04:04:15] who have dedicated their lives to keeping the road safe. Surely you are not doubting the

[04:04:20] ability of them to make the decision of whether I could drive or not.

[04:04:23] Oh no, I trust them to make the right decision for everyone else's safety. But with Chatsha

[04:04:29] driving instructor, there's already been a lot of screaming and bailing out the door.

[04:04:33] It's a good example of why perhaps driving tests should include video games.

[04:04:41] It would at least help weed out some of the more terrifying behaviour on the road.

[04:04:46] Well my personal opinion on why I can't drive on stream is because I am reading chat and

[04:04:53] in a driving test I would not be reading.

[04:04:57] But you might be listening to music or chatting to the person with you.

[04:05:01] Personally, I would always try to shut down the conversation while driving. I would never want to talk about driving. That's

[04:05:07] Not doing that. I'm not I'm actually I would never hold the conversation while driving. I'm actually the silence in my car

[04:05:13] I don't want other people talking in my car. Honestly. Okay. Um, second of all, um, no music, of course no music

[04:05:20] and

[04:05:21] And I mean reading is definitely harder than both of those things. So I would be very locked in I

[04:05:27] I do empathize with you. When I was first driving, I was literally like, yeah, don't talk to me. Don't distract me.

[04:05:33] It took a little while for me to be really comfortable with having actually engaging with distractions around me.

[04:05:39] But yeah, it's a confidence thing. And I had to admit, actually, I do love your confidence when you're driving.

[04:05:47] this irrepressible enthusiasm, because this is wonderful predictable pattern where you

[04:05:54] get behind the, you know, sitting on screen, at least, get behind the wheel and you're all

[04:05:57] cool and calmly collected. And then the inimical phrase chat, I've got this, immediately followed

[04:06:04] by an impact with a wall or a pedestrian or a car, you know, the lamppost just came

[04:06:08] out of nowhere. And you've actually been doing this ever, the first stream I ever

[04:06:13] came into yours was you playing GTA and literally crashing into every car on the road.

[04:06:18] Oh, so you're biased. So you're biased?

[04:06:21] No, this is over a long period of experience.

[04:06:24] Okay, that should mean that you're disqualified.

[04:06:27] No, no, I've had the opportunity to observe your driving for the entire time I've followed

[04:06:31] your stream, actually. I mean, it has got better, I'll give you that.

[04:06:35] Okay, as a result, you're obviously gonna say things that suggest that I'm not gonna be

[04:06:41] be good at driving okay because it's your bias that you don't want me to be in a

[04:06:44] driving because you find it in staining. Hey I'm more than happy for you to be

[04:06:49] good at driving. You know what okay I feel like a majority of times more often

[04:06:54] than not there is at least one you got this litty of the hug in chat every

[04:06:59] time I crash. There is I mean there's often at least one of those when

[04:07:03] you're there surrounded by wreckage and you know also your your caution is

[04:07:10] always beautifully on display at that point, you know, if there's ever going to be a point

[04:07:13] when you check your mirrors and carefully merge your traffic, it's when you're surrounded

[04:07:17] by the wrecked cars of everything you've just crashed into.

[04:07:21] You know what?

[04:07:22] I'm just, I'm a min-maxer, okay, and like everything is min-maxing, okay, and when

[04:07:26] I do my driving test, okay, it will, it, I will min-max my driving test.

[04:07:31] And what does min-maxing your driving test look like, exactly?

[04:07:35] I will be doing an intensive driving course for like four or five days and then I will

[04:07:41] take my test and then I will go back to stream with a driving test and try not to crash when

[04:07:51] I'm not been backing it.

[04:07:55] So basically learning a really artificial situation blitz it, cross the line and then

[04:08:00] go I'm sure it will be fine once I'm out on the line normally.

[04:08:04] So, okay, I don't want to jigsit, okay?

[04:08:06] But American World brother, it's a straight line.

[04:08:09] Like legit, drive straight, stop, drive straight, stop.

[04:08:13] Like, actually what can go wrong?

[04:08:16] It's a lot, I imagine it will be easier compared to

[04:08:19] like learning the rural bits of the UK.

[04:08:22] I think the UK, oh my gosh, the cities in the UK are crazy.

[04:08:25] Like, oh my gosh, America is literally

[04:08:28] start, stop, start, stop, start, stop.

[04:08:30] With an automatic, by the way, okay?

[04:08:33] 15 year olds can do this.

[04:08:35] I will

[04:08:37] pause outside.

[04:08:39] Well, if it doesn't make you feel any better,

[04:08:41] my first test actually went really, really well

[04:08:44] right up until

[04:08:47] probably five minutes before the end.

[04:08:49] Like the instructor, you know,

[04:08:50] been noticing the edge at the end of it,

[04:08:52] literally had nothing to say bad

[04:08:55] about anything that I'd done.

[04:08:56] Five minutes before the end,

[04:08:57] I screw up on a roundabout and then got hit by a bus

[04:09:00] because the bus just ignored the roundabout and powered on

[04:09:03] and I didn't expect it to do that.

[04:09:05] So he kind of shat himself.

[04:09:09] Now he said I didn't see the bus.

[04:09:11] No, I did.

[04:09:12] I just didn't think it was going to be trying to ban me.

[04:09:15] I didn't think he was gonna just not even bother breaking

[04:09:18] and just, you know, who fit?

[04:09:21] And so I failed my first test, so.

[04:09:23] Who were you to select then?

[04:09:24] Imagine if I passed, okay?

[04:09:26] I did pass after that.

[04:09:27] I will emote on you.

[04:09:29] Okay, if I pass first time and you didn't, I will moat on you.

[04:09:33] Yeah, you have the right to if you pass first time.

[04:09:36] Well, Grinch, thank you.

[04:09:38] So I think this is gonna be a bit of a bias poll, but I will.

[04:09:41] Oh, not at all.

[04:09:42] I trust you have to be completely objective.

[04:09:44] One, if after watching my driving on stream,

[04:09:50] I should not be allowed to drive.

[04:09:51] Two, if I should be allowed to drive

[04:09:54] because it's all an act

[04:09:55] and I'm actually a really good driver.

[04:09:59] Guys, I cooked today, by the way.

[04:10:05] I cooked.

[04:10:06] Am I sick right now?

[04:10:07] No.

[04:10:08] Look at all that.

[04:10:09] I'm just going to bring them on board with you.

[04:10:14] What is this?

[04:10:15] This is not...

[04:10:16] That was pretty close.

[04:10:17] That was pretty close.

[04:10:18] You know, there's hope for you.

[04:10:21] No, there is hope.

[04:10:24] Whether chap believes it or not, okay, there's 100% hope for me.

[04:10:28] Grinch, thank you very much for coming on.

[04:10:31] And you're the best of luck with your test in the US.

[04:10:33] Strongly agree to disagree. Thank you very much.

[04:10:35] See you around.

[04:10:36] Okay, chat. Hold on.

[04:10:37] Can I really quick?

[04:10:40] I want to see if my auto timer is actually on,

[04:10:47] because I really, really, really don't want to go too bad.

[04:10:50] However, can we make a promise?

[04:10:58] Can we make a promise? If I don't go to bed now, okay, okay. If I don't go to bed now,

[04:11:08] because the thing is, right, okay, this is the reason I need author shutdown, okay? Because

[04:11:13] my Alexa goes off at, um, at a half past 11. Okay, so if I don't shut down a few minutes

[04:11:21] before half past 11, then, then my Alexa like doesn't go off and then I don't have

[04:11:24] Alexa and then I will like stay up scrolling until like 3am. Okay. I need a

[04:11:30] like this homing to stop scrolling. Okay. So, so, so, okay. If I go over, I need to

[04:11:43] say, oh no, I need to say, okay. Before, before

[04:11:54] I am stream so she starts okay and then and then and then I'm like not gonna like do you scroll okay

[04:12:03] Get it

[04:12:06] Completely subjected to the whims of clankers. Yeah, but you know what okay? It works and it means that

[04:12:14] Hold on is it on?

[04:12:16] No. Okay. It works and it means that more streams happen. Okay. Also, if you would like to debate,

[04:12:29] then please head yo yo yo yo yo yourselves. Yo cute little mouses that I bet a pink right

[04:12:37] now. I bet I bet someone watching right now has a cute pink mouse. Like, you know, like

[04:12:41] that you know you can change it to like a different color.

[04:12:46] I had a pink mouse for a little bit,

[04:12:48] but then, why is that A or,

[04:12:52] why is there, literally,

[04:12:53] I don't know what's wrong with that.

[04:12:54] Okay, anyways, okay, you know what, don't worry.

[04:12:58] Anyways, Noisy, would we please be able

[04:13:02] to bring the next little Scaliwag into the lobby

[04:13:08] to be brutally humiliated

[04:13:11] and subject to the penalty of...

[04:13:13] Lydia, just wanted to say that you look more fantastic today than you normally fantastically look.

[04:13:18] Good.

[04:13:19] Hair included.

[04:13:20] W.W.

[04:13:21] Hold on, let me turn you up a little bit.

[04:13:23] Um...

[04:13:24] Zan, what would you like to debate about today?

[04:13:28] Zan, what would you like to debate about today? Sorry, I muted myself.

[04:13:34] Okay, yeah, I was here in double for a second.

[04:13:36] Can you hear me okay?

[04:13:37] Yes, yeah.

[04:13:38] My topic is, do you believe human life have intrinsic value?

[04:13:48] What do you mean?

[04:13:56] Are you able to put into a long-term amount to the value of a human life?

[04:14:00] Well, I feel like you have to.

[04:14:02] Okay, for stuff like Ransoms, I feel like you have to kind of monetarily value it.

[04:14:07] like obviously no there's not a monetary value in life but like at the same time

[04:14:13] like if there's a ransom then you have to. I think in England it's like 10

[04:14:21] million right insurance companies also have to get you. So I can I think I

[04:14:28] break down a little bit it's a reasonably complex topic but I guess I

[04:14:31] should start I can I can preface this with do you believe all humans are

[04:14:34] created equal? Yeah. Do you value, so if you believe all humans are created

[04:14:45] equal, you would value all humans equally? I'm just, I'm thinking because I'm

[04:14:52] thinking of examples. Okay, so again I'm going to be blunt here. Would you put a

[04:15:01] A disabled person at the same value as a non-disabled person in society.

[04:15:06] Yeah. I was thinking of examples like, okay, say someone is saving polar bears as a life.

[04:15:19] Say someone's like doing something like crazy good for other people, okay?

[04:15:27] I would probably pay more for that ransom than like a banker, no offensive banker.

[04:15:34] But like, if someone's like Gandhi, I would probably pay more for like Gandhi than for like

[04:15:42] other people that aren't Gandhi, you know what I mean?

[04:15:45] Okay, sure. Okay, sure. So I guess I can put this in a not such a negative way.

[04:15:49] If, assume you had a Spider-Man moment and you have-

[04:15:51] Wait, what do you mean who's Gandhi? Wait, am I just making- did I dream? Hold on.

[04:15:55] Guys, did I just make that up in my Gandhi, you know Gandhi, like, oh my gosh bro, I thought

[04:16:03] I just dreamed of Gandhi, okay, okay, okay, okay, um, oh my gosh, sorry, I go to the, did

[04:16:11] you see that?

[04:16:12] I ripped the skin off my finger, sorry, anyway, um, but yeah, no, I don't think that,

[04:16:18] I think some people I would probably pay more for, yeah.

[04:16:21] So, sure, okay, so like, broadly speaking, right, like, in a less negative sense, right,

[04:16:27] like if you had a Spireman helmet and the Green Goblin was throwing a bus of doctors

[04:16:32] off the Manhattan Bridge and a bus of serial killers off the Manhattan Bridge, you probably

[04:16:35] wouldn't blink to save a bus of doctors over at the Manhattan Bridge.

[04:16:39] Www serial killers of a bus of doctors.

[04:16:44] Joking, by the way, joking, joking, joking, yes, yes.

[04:16:50] Okay, so I so like so this is real quiet already creating a fact that there's

[04:16:57] Inequality I would argue that there's like your your response has basically suggested there is intrinsic inequality in the value of people

[04:17:05] There are people who are valued valued more and that's where people who are valued less happy nine months

[04:17:10] Yeah, yeah, but I would do it based on like how much like help like dad giving people and stuff. Yeah

[04:17:17] Or if, you know, I just liked them, like, I would pay more for my dog or like my husband

[04:17:26] or like my children, obviously, but like taking me out of this situation, okay, like, if I'm

[04:17:31] like, if I'm like a robot, okay, then I would really pay more, I would not be going

[04:17:40] off vibes, but like, but like, if I was like out and didn't know any of the people,

[04:17:44] then yeah.

[04:17:45] So, as I guess, like from my perspective, I believe humans have no intrinsic value, life has no intrinsic value. We exist as a function of chance in the universe. We exist purely out of chance. There is no higher being that created us. When we die, we're going to be reduced to our fundamental constituents.

[04:18:04] I don't believe that like again we're here purely on a chance there's no value to our life to anything that we do and

[04:18:16] Fundamentally, I think like people are actually a negative value to

[04:18:21] To what society is society clearly has to make people there needs to be less people

[04:18:25] And I think like human life has no value as a function of this

[04:18:29] But what do you mean, but of course life has value. Like value is what people make value.

[04:18:36] Like the government would pay money to get you released, you add value to them by paying

[04:18:44] tax. Your family hopefully would like you to be around, like the people that love

[04:18:50] you would like you to be around. That's all value. Hopefully they would do stuff

[04:18:54] to try and get you back. Like what do you mean value is what people make it? Everyone

[04:18:57] has value. Okay, so that is a part I fundamentally disagree with. I don't think that we have

[04:19:09] intrinsic value. The definition of intrinsic value is something that is, if something has

[04:19:14] intrinsic value, there is a fundamental quality about that thing that gives it value. Silver

[04:19:21] has value because it has a precious metal, it has use in electronics, it has use as

[04:19:26] storage of money, I don't think humans have value. I think there's no fundamental difference

[04:19:32] between any random person existing and not existing.

[04:19:38] Intrinsic value or fundamental worth of an asset based on its... Yeah, but like, okay,

[04:19:46] okay. But say like, I don't know, like people got held hostage, right? Then like the government

[04:19:52] needs to pay a certain amount to get those people back. So each person's life

[04:19:58] kind of has to be valued in a way of how much the government's gonna pay to get

[04:20:02] those people back for example. Great point. So there is a monetary value that

[04:20:07] government can assign to pay for a ransom versus just letting that person

[04:20:11] die. And you could argue that is the value of a human life. Could you not?

[04:20:15] For the government, yeah. That's just one example. But you said earlier

[04:20:20] earlier that there is, you said earlier that there can't be a monetary value based on human

[04:20:24] life because if human life has value, right, that's not something you should be able to

[04:20:29] assign to.

[04:20:30] I didn't understand that, I said that, I said that you kind of have to assign a value to

[04:20:37] it, in cases like kidnapping, sad bulb.

[04:20:43] Um, so I guess I don't know someone that you love okay, are they not valuable to you? Do they have no value?

[04:20:55] Uh, I would say that

[04:20:59] I would put preference over people I care about and love over someone random

[04:21:03] But fundamentally I do not think that person has like the person I love or care for has more intrinsic value

[04:21:10] than any other random person in the world because from my world perspective no one has to define

[04:21:16] all equally worthless entities.

[04:21:19] No, but we're not worthless bro. People would trade a lot for your life. Like lots of people would you hear

[04:21:28] people would trade for your life okay? You have value.

[04:21:33] Um, I'm trying to frame this in a different way, uh.

[04:21:45] Like if, if, if, if you didn't have a value, then no one would pair, you died, sad mom.

[04:21:54] But like no one would care about your life.

[04:21:58] People care about your life.

[04:21:59] But funnily, I think that is something I disagree with, right?

[04:22:04] Like, most of the people that exist on this earth, like more than 99.9% of all people who've ever existed are now dead.

[04:22:12] And of those 99.9% people, basically 100% of those people that have already died, don't matter to anybody.

[04:22:20] Like, I'm sure you've like repaired pretty well.

[04:22:23] Okay.

[04:22:24] Half as well.

[04:22:26] It doesn't matter to the people that were alive at the same time as them.

[04:22:31] But why does it matter?

[04:22:33] Right?

[04:22:34] Like what matters to us?

[04:22:35] Well, it doesn't matter to me.

[04:22:37] It matters to other people.

[04:22:42] But we're reducing, we're reducing basically nothingness, right?

[04:22:45] Like, again, we're here in such a short amount of time, relative to Universe,

[04:22:49] and we're here by complete chance, right?

[04:22:51] There is no...

[04:22:53] I don't understand your argument. We're here by chance. Therefore we were meaningless

[04:22:58] Like what just because we're here by chance doesn't mean we're meaningless

[04:23:01] We're here by chance

[04:23:02] It's like the most beautiful thing ever that we're in this planet and life is Paul good amazing and the fact that the way here is insane

[04:23:08] And we're here for a fleeting amount of time which makes it like so special

[04:23:13] Gloss are full and all that

[04:23:17] But I don't think life is beautiful right life is again purely chance there was no there's no

[04:23:23] What do you mean?

[04:23:26] Like, that's not an argument.

[04:23:28] Life is chance, so it's not beautiful.

[04:23:31] That doesn't make sense.

[04:23:38] If life was beautiful, is that a function of life itself or the outcome?

[04:23:47] Or not the outcome, the output of life.

[04:23:50] Like, is every life beautiful?

[04:23:56] Is every human life beautiful?

[04:23:57] No, but I would say like the concept is, and I would say the concept of the fact that we

[04:24:03] get to be on this planet, what do I sound like, Whisper, preaching is a beautiful concept.

[04:24:14] Have you ever had to euthanize anyone?

[04:24:15] Have you ever had to euthanize an animal or like a grandparent or someone that was

[04:24:19] no longer capable of life. Yeah, Pats. Because they weren't enjoying life anymore. That doesn't

[04:24:29] mean that life wasn't beautiful. They thought a nice wholesome fun life.

[04:24:36] Is it possible to have a life that is miserable enough that your that the life would not be

[04:24:41] considered beautiful? Yeah, but I think on the whole life is beautiful. I'm not saying that

[04:24:47] Like every life is always amazing.

[04:24:50] I'm just saying that the principle is good

[04:24:54] and it's not like life is not bad.

[04:24:57] Life is good.

[04:25:01] You have value, bro.

[04:25:03] There are people that care about you, okay?

[04:25:07] You do good, okay?

[04:25:10] People care about you.

[04:25:11] You do good.

[04:25:12] Even just the ability to do so much stuff is beautiful, okay?

[04:25:19] You can get McDonald's, okay?

[04:25:21] Imagine giving McDonald's to a caveman.

[04:25:23] Sorry, I keep on talking about McDonald's so much today.

[04:25:26] But like, you know why?

[04:25:27] Because I'm eating this is my, this is my, this is my meal for the day.

[04:25:31] This salad, okay?

[04:25:34] And 300 grams of macro.

[04:25:37] That's how I do a lot of McDonald's by the way.

[04:25:39] But like you can you can do so much stuff.

[04:25:43] OK, that's so beautiful.

[04:25:45] Like, of course, your life is valuable and life is beautiful.

[04:25:49] What do you mean?

[04:25:50] This is like so like sad.

[04:25:57] I think in the current iteration of society,

[04:26:00] I think that humans are worse off than they've ever been before.

[04:26:04] I think no, no, so disagree, so disagree, so disagree.

[04:26:09] Bro, back in the day, you just have to go to war and just be put on front lines.

[04:26:15] You're vibing in your life, okay?

[04:26:17] You're a man, okay?

[04:26:18] You spawn in a mail, okay?

[04:26:20] 18 to the front lines, bing bang boom, you're dead.

[04:26:23] No!

[04:26:24] Oh my gosh, even worse, before they had guns, swords, just slice your arm off, or not even

[04:26:31] slice your arm off, okay?

[04:26:33] You go into the war, okay?

[04:26:34] would whack you around with axes for a few hours until the war was over. Pog, you survived,

[04:26:40] but you have a big axe wound into your arm. They don't know how to fix that, so you just

[04:26:44] chop your arm off. And you probably bleed out to death anyway. You spawn in as a woman.

[04:26:50] Your life purpose is just to impress some dude who's probably like, on a run, like 50 years

[04:26:55] older than you, okay? Then you literally hate and he probably hates you as well.

[04:26:59] But that doesn't matter because your family is like Pog, he's rich, okay? And then

[04:27:03] You just have to have his children until you die one day.

[04:27:06] You let your child just carry around a kid for nine months.

[04:27:08] You're like, this could be it.

[04:27:10] And then one day it is it.

[04:27:11] It's it.

[04:27:13] Nowadays, you vibe, you game, you eat yummy food, OK?

[04:27:20] Like, there's beauty in everything, OK?

[04:27:22] You're not going to be waxed around with actors,

[04:27:25] hopefully.

[04:27:26] I mean, it's a lot rarer.

[04:27:28] Like, what do you mean?

[04:27:30] Like, this is such a good time to be alive.

[04:27:34] Uh, I, I, I think,

[04:27:37] I think being alive today is pretty miserable.

[04:27:40] I think all the problems,

[04:27:41] a lot of the problems that you mentioned before,

[04:27:42] they still exist, right?

[04:27:43] Like, like we've just become more effective killing machines.

[04:27:46] While Samuels can-

[04:27:47] What do you mean all of the problems still exist?

[04:27:51] Like, you're probably not going to be forced to go and whack each other with axes in a wall.

[04:27:57] Like, what do you,

[04:27:58] The problem is that I just said do not exist. What do you mean?

[04:28:01] We just become more efficient killing machines, right?

[04:28:03] Like I said, me whacking someone to death manually with sword, right?

[04:28:06] That's going to take that's going to take like 10 seconds, right?

[04:28:09] I'll just send a drone and kill a thousand people in that same 10 seconds.

[04:28:12] Right? That's just far more efficient from the perspective of the U.S.

[04:28:15] Considering the life expectancy is much, much, much, much, much higher now.

[04:28:20] That's also a bad thing.

[04:28:22] Oh, yeah. More life. Yes.

[04:28:25] Hello, Moli!

[04:28:28] Right, like we have a resource shortage in the world, right?

[04:28:33] People are starving to death every day, especially despite the fact that we think that like billionaires are...

[04:28:38] I'm pretty sure less people are starving now versus like pretty much any other time.

[04:28:44] I don't know if that's true. I feel like that's not true.

[04:28:47] Because like before, right, people were...

[04:28:49] Like what was the leading cause of death in like the 14th century for example?

[04:28:55] Like the cause of death in England in the 14th century was probably illness.

[04:29:01] Yeah, that seems reasonable right?

[04:29:04] Now people are dying because of cardiac disease, automobile accident.

[04:29:09] 75 and I think the leading cause of death is heart disease.

[04:29:14] Like 75.

[04:29:15] I would rather die at 75, okay, than die as a child to an infection.

[04:29:21] Like, am I wrong?

[04:29:24] Or would you rather what?

[04:29:27] So, to be fundamentally like, I think those are the same, right?

[04:29:30] Like, dying is just like a function of life, right?

[04:29:32] But you get to have less life experiences.

[04:29:35] You get to live less life, you get to have more less experiences.

[04:29:38] But at the end of the day, everything's going to go black eventually anyways.

[04:29:41] You might as well live life and have good experiences while you're here.

[04:29:44] I think that is like incredibly idealistic take. I don't know. I like I have a hard time believing that there is a

[04:29:56] Lot of value in what most people do right? I think most people live pretty worthless

[04:30:01] I think whatever you want to do in the world, then you can do it

[04:30:06] But free will doesn't go

[04:30:08] Free will doesn't exist. We're we're a function of our genetics and a function of our DNA

[04:30:12] Which is a different debate altogether. Right? This is, this is, I feel like, do you not like

[04:30:21] get sad thinking like this though? Negative. You don't? I don't. So you think life is meaningless.

[04:30:31] You have no value. You don't care when you die because your life is worthless. But you're not

[04:30:38] But you're not phased?

[04:30:41] But I'm not what?

[04:30:42] But you're not phased?

[04:30:43] Like you don't care?

[04:30:44] It doesn't make you sad to think like that?

[04:30:47] Nope.

[04:30:48] What gets you through it?

[04:30:52] Uh...

[04:30:53] What is that?

[04:30:56] I think...

[04:30:57] So this is a really weird way to look at it, but a lot of what I decide to do is based

[04:31:02] on how other people view their lives, right?

[04:31:05] So I would do things for other people because they value their lives, but I would not value

[04:31:11] their lives.

[04:31:12] But I don't think that my perspective of the world should bring their perspective of the

[04:31:19] world down.

[04:31:20] I'm not sad by this.

[04:31:23] I would never yuck someone's yuck.

[04:31:25] No, no, but I don't understand.

[04:31:27] Why would you not be sad if you think that you're worthless, meaningless, and you don't

[04:31:32] care if your dad are alive?

[04:31:34] Because I think that way about universe about everyone.

[04:31:36] Okay, but that would still make you sad, Julie.

[04:31:39] That does not make me the least bit sad.

[04:31:43] Again, because I think, like, what is there, why should I be sad if I don't think life

[04:31:50] has value, if I don't think that we are here for any other reason than chance?

[04:31:55] And that, like, if anything, I think there should be less people in the world.

[04:32:00] Less people in the world would help curb a lot of societal problems we have.

[04:32:03] If you could instantly kill 2 billion people, would you do it?

[04:32:08] Yeah.

[04:32:08] Bro, you said yes before you even finished the question.

[04:32:13] It is very, very simple.

[04:32:14] If there were 2 billion less people in the world,

[04:32:16] this world would be an objectively better place.

[04:32:22] Right, like, if the button was due,

[04:32:25] if I press this button, 2 million people die, right?

[04:32:27] I would probably press it twice for good measure.

[04:32:31] Education gives people a better chance to solve life's problems.

[04:32:36] There are many forms of education.

[04:32:38] So you mean like twice like kill 4 billion people?

[04:32:43] Yes. If I die in the first 2 billion, fine, whatever, life goes on.

[04:32:47] Like the rest of people can live in a better society with 6 people.

[04:32:51] What do you mean by better society?

[04:32:55] I think that humans have it good right now.

[04:33:00] I believe that our current iteration of society is not sufficient with the resources we have

[04:33:07] and the technology we have to actually support everyone in this society.

[04:33:11] Okay, but like I said, I'm pretty sure less people, like more people are dying from everything

[04:33:17] than under anything.

[04:33:20] Like, if that's the case, right, we should like, we should make sure that everyone has

[04:33:25] everything they need to survive, right?

[04:33:27] The world would be a better place if there was unlimited food for everyone, let all the people who are inherently irresponsible eat themselves to death and die from heart disease and heart failure, and let the people who survive take over the world.

[04:33:44] If that is the leading cause of death. Again, the world needs less people. A lot of the problems we have is death from just overpopulation.

[04:33:57] This is the song that I like.

[04:34:07] Take the Marvel movies away from this guy.

[04:34:10] Okay. Right. Okay. I don't know what to start. I feel like there's so much hair.

[04:34:16] Okay. Well, you know what makes me happy?

[04:34:19] Okay. I feel like I got happy and some solace in the idea.

[04:34:24] that life is fleeting, and nothing really matters,

[04:34:31] which I guess is the same as you, nothing really matters.

[04:34:33] So I might as well have a fun all time while I'm here,

[04:34:42] a fun all time, and then that'd be bad.

[04:34:45] And I hope that my life has value

[04:34:47] because I think people care if I would die,

[04:34:51] Some people, and that's nice.

[04:34:56] I feel like that's a nice, hopeful thing to think, you know?

[04:35:02] I feel like if I were you and I believed

[04:35:04] that everything is meaningless, I feel

[04:35:06] like I would have no motivation to do anything.

[04:35:14] So in the US, at least in this day I live in,

[04:35:18] I have to opt in to be an organ donor.

[04:35:21] I know there are states where you are organ donor by default

[04:35:24] when you register for your driver's license

[04:35:26] and you have to choose to opt out.

[04:35:28] How's it in the UK?

[04:35:29] Are you an organ donor by default or do you have to opt in?

[04:35:31] I think you have to opt in, yeah.

[04:35:38] Are you an organ donor?

[04:35:41] I am not and that is bad and I will be an organ donor

[04:35:44] and I strongly believe that it should be an opt in.

[04:35:48] I think it should be an opt-out thing and at some point, Alexa plus, sorry, I mean Alexa,

[04:35:58] volume zero and at some point, probably maybe zero and I will sign up.

[04:36:10] Do you believe that people who choose not to be an organ donor, do they have less intrinsic

[04:36:14] value than people who are organ donors.

[04:36:20] To guide chat, I am an organ donor, by the way.

[04:36:22] I actually donate blood on a very routine basis.

[04:36:28] Do I think that more valuable?

[04:36:30] I mean, I think that nice of people.

[04:36:36] I think that nice of people.

[04:36:37] I mean, what do you mean by intrinsic value?

[04:36:38] I mean, if we had a Spider-Man moment, would you save?

[04:36:43] Would you save a bus full of organ donors or would you save a bus full of non-organ donors from falling off the Manhattan Bridge?

[04:36:49] A bus full of non-organ donors because the organ donors would give their organs and at least there would be a plus?

[04:36:57] Do you believe that someone who is a non-organ donor should be entitled to receive someone else's organ?

[04:37:02] Yes, because I think a lot of people want to be organ donors.

[04:37:12] They just haven't got around to applying, which is why I strongly believe that it should

[04:37:16] be opt out.

[04:37:21] I think a lot of people would be organ donors, but they've just never had the chance to

[04:37:25] sign up.

[04:37:27] I mean, like just I'm just like looking at chat here, right?

[04:37:29] someone said like organ donation is a scam.

[04:37:33] What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, how is organ donation a scam?

[04:37:39] Bro, if you get hit by a car and your heart stops beating.

[04:37:43] Okay, and someone gives you that heart?

[04:37:48] Is that a scam?

[04:37:51] Um, I don't think you would be complaining.

[04:37:56] Okay, sorry. Oh my gosh, we're getting so derailed.

[04:37:58] You just have such an interesting take on life, you know, the best way to

[04:38:02] live your life is very simple, right?

[04:38:04] Like fundamentally the only decision, the only real decision and the only real

[04:38:07] free will that people have is whether or not a decision should be broken.

[04:38:10] If you're not going to kill yourself today, right, you have to repeat that decision tomorrow.

[04:38:13] That is fundamentally the only decision I believe people have in life.

[04:38:16] Well, like, no, but they don't have, they have every decision in life.

[04:38:21] You could, okay, but even a free will like this is not a free will existed.

[04:38:25] that decision would be part of the self-determining prophecy that you believe, so that also doesn't make any sense.

[04:38:35] Right, like, so I think, like, I realize that a lot of this seems like we're going off of, kind of going off of course.

[04:38:41] This is just, this goes back to the fundamental, like, we're basically providing different examples

[04:38:47] of whether or not you believe human life has intrinsic value, right?

[04:38:51] I'm trying to convince you that it doesn't, based on, right?

[04:38:54] I believe if you do not choose to be an organ donor,

[04:38:58] you have conceded your right to receive organs

[04:39:01] from someone else.

[04:39:02] Okay, okay, I think that makes sense.

[04:39:05] Okay, for example, okay.

[04:39:07] Say you, go, okay, say someone, I don't know,

[04:39:16] is feeling, okay, say your friend comes in,

[04:39:21] around your house and as a result of your friend coming around your house they

[04:39:24] don't get hit by a bus, WW. Okay does your life have meaning then? Like the

[04:39:29] butterfly effect meant that someone didn't die? I mean you did just say that

[04:39:33] you would kill four billion people but why do you care about

[04:39:38] organ donor so much and being an organ donor if you would press the button

[04:39:42] and kill four billion people? I'm just using that as a perspective of why

[04:39:49] I believe human life doesn't have value, right?

[04:39:51] This is me trying to state that there are,

[04:39:55] if you believe that human life has value,

[04:39:58] I'm just trying to make a point of whether you believe

[04:40:00] certain lives are more valuable than others.

[04:40:03] That's like the point I'm trying to make.

[04:40:05] Okay, okay.

[04:40:06] Well, thank you very much for the life perspective.

[04:40:09] I just feel like, I feel like it's a sad way to live.

[04:40:14] Not only that, I think to other people though,

[04:40:18] Like, to other people, your life means something.

[04:40:22] And everyone's life means something, okay?

[04:40:26] Whether positive or negative,

[04:40:28] you're having a big effect on the world

[04:40:30] with everything that you do.

[04:40:32] Like, butterfly effects are crazy.

[04:40:35] You know, oh my gosh, sorry, random tangent really quick.

[04:40:38] But like, okay, guys, when I was in London,

[04:40:40] I saw some teenage girls, okay?

[04:40:43] And they were taking Instagram photos.

[04:40:45] And they were like, guys, lock in, lock in.

[04:40:48] I'm probably being crazy, but like what games do you lock in that aren't me?

[04:40:58] Like it's probably not, but like oh you're looking at Fortnite?

[04:41:03] Oh okay, fair enough, okay fair enough, yeah but still I feel like, okay, yeah fair enough,

[04:41:09] okay actually that's very fair enough.

[04:41:11] I'm really convinced in the game, no, but you don't say the what, no you say,

[04:41:17] No, you know what? You say ready up. I swear you say ready up.

[04:41:25] Oh my god. You say ready up. You don't say look in. Literally what like literally what other game

[04:41:33] do you say look in? I swear this become a global thing and it's come from league and you can't

[04:41:41] prove me otherwise. Okay. And you know what? That's probably from one stream at the time. Look in.

[04:41:46] Okay, like one link streamer. Okay. And then some people started saying it and then other streamers started saying that and then from other streamers

[04:41:52] I didn't think that people that which which side is saying that and then because she became a cultural thing and now some girls in London taking Instagram pictures are saying look and

[04:41:59] It's butterfly. Everything you do in your life has a crazy butterfly fact is what I'm trying to get at. Okay, and

[04:42:06] and and and

[04:42:09] Your life has so much meaning because you affect the world so much

[04:42:14] But with that, uh, chat, one, if you think that intrinsic life has no...

[04:42:21] Sorry, sorry.

[04:42:22] One, if you think human life has no intrinsic value.

[04:42:25] Two, if you think that it does.

[04:42:28] And that people can be valuable.

[04:42:32] And it's not meaningless.

[04:42:34] Mmm.

[04:42:36] The age of Pisces is over.

[04:42:38] The age of Aquarius is a world of humanity.

[04:42:41] I don't think the world will listen to our full potential and realize our distinctly human value adventure to the star.

[04:42:47] You picked a hard one, okay? That was quite controversial, but it's interesting to hear your opinion.

[04:42:56] And you know what? If it doesn't make you unhappy to think that, then uh...

[04:43:01] just a question like, do you think about this like every day? Or is it just like, once in

[04:43:09] a blue moon, you're just like, oh yeah, life has a meaning?

[04:43:13] I look at this from a utilitarian perspective of like how I make decisions in my life, right?

[04:43:19] Like if I, I probably wouldn't stop someone from overdosing on the side of the road.

[04:43:27] If they believe that their purpose in life is to overdose on narcotics, and you overdose,

[04:43:34] you probably deserve to die.

[04:43:35] And that's not my place to decide if you should be saved or not.

[04:43:41] What?

[04:43:44] You wouldn't save someone's life.

[04:43:46] Okay, does that go in general or just for drugs?

[04:43:52] I think it depends.

[04:43:53] it depends like I don't I don't I don't think that that person's life has value I

[04:43:57] think a person's life has even less value than zero

[04:44:00] okay so you don't think that someone's life has value if they take drugs no it

[04:44:06] depends depends on the source of it right like I have a very hard time saying

[04:44:10] that a drug you like an IV drug user IV drug users life has value thank you

[04:44:16] Okay, so if you served in the army, okay, you served for your country, okay, you broke

[04:44:25] your leg, or you had like an injury, your back injury, okay, and you prescribed medicine

[04:44:30] that then got you addicted to opioids, okay, and then you went to heart opioids, okay,

[04:44:35] and then you were on the side of the street after a bar, opioid overdose, then would

[04:44:41] Would you be like, it's okay, other people don't deserve,

[04:44:46] like other people shouldn't save me?

[04:44:50] The background of that story is irrelevant

[04:44:52] because there's no shore to people

[04:44:54] who had the exact same life story,

[04:44:57] were put onto opioids, were put onto harder opioids,

[04:45:00] and managed to not become addicted to those opioids.

[04:45:02] Yeah, maybe because different things happen in their lives,

[04:45:04] maybe because they had an easier life,

[04:45:05] maybe because they had less going on,

[04:45:08] or less stress going on at the same time

[04:45:10] and things didn't build up.

[04:45:13] That's the outcome of chance.

[04:45:14] That's the function of the universe, right?

[04:45:15] Life, inherently, isn't fair, right?

[04:45:18] Like, are we believing that it is fair

[04:45:20] to not save this person's life?

[04:45:22] It is a function of the universe.

[04:45:24] Things happen by chance.

[04:45:25] These are random outcomes that happen.

[04:45:26] Okay, so...

[04:45:28] This is a very easy kind of account here.

[04:45:30] So, you don't wanna save that person's life

[04:45:33] because they got unlucky by chance.

[04:45:38] Correct.

[04:45:40] Because the background doesn't matter to me, right?

[04:45:45] It is the function that there are people who have that same storyline and had more acceptable

[04:45:52] outcomes, right?

[04:45:53] Just in the same way, like, why do we hate on...

[04:45:58] I'm trying to give an example here, right?

[04:46:01] So we say something like in America, right?

[04:46:04] We say like there's like socioeconomic upbringing is a huge part of why people struggle in

[04:46:09] life, which to some extent, yes, right. But when people say we need things, which is a

[04:46:15] completely different topic, this is so far away from what we were originally talking about,

[04:46:18] right? But like, why should there be social systems for people who made objectively bad

[04:46:24] decisions in their life, when there were other people who were able to overcome

[04:46:27] those exact same difficulties in their life? And it didn't come. Bro! Well, first of all,

[04:46:32] you don't even believe in free will and free thought, okay? So, what? Second of all,

[04:46:36] Okay, so if some okay, so if I if I okay some girl, okay

[04:46:42] It's the girl in the world with crossing the road, right? Okay, and a car a guy was on his phone

[04:46:51] Hustling towards me. Okay, and sir one sec

[04:46:56] You have heard of a do not resuscitate order. That's a common story in medicine

[04:47:01] We run into former addicts who overdosed and we cannot do anything by law. We have to just let them go

[04:47:08] dark, but reality

[04:47:11] That's different from someone that does that does want to be resuscitated

[04:47:15] Okay, so so for example say I was I was walking across the road, right?

[04:47:20] And and you had the ability to push me out of the way of this car. Okay, like so we're both fine, right?

[04:47:28] So we both will live and survive otherwise. I would be hurt by this car and and killed okay, would you push me out of the way the car?

[04:47:41] Do I know anything about you or am I just

[04:47:45] Like I'm just walking down the road as oh you're about to get my car my choice is to save this person or not save this person

[04:47:49] Both same a stranger. I say you don't know me and then say you know me

[04:47:53] If I don't know you I'm not sure I would choose to save your life

[04:48:05] Okay, and then if you know me

[04:48:09] Depends on how much I like you how much you like me enough to save my life if I'm about to get hit by a car

[04:48:16] debatable

[04:48:23] Wait, what would you mean debatable? Yes or no?

[04:48:33] If it was a spur of the moment, yes.

[04:48:34] Okay.

[04:48:35] You might have to make a snap moment decision, yes.

[04:48:37] So, like, why do you say debatable? Why would you debate saving my life if it doesn't really

[04:48:43] impact you in any way whatsoever? You're just-

[04:48:46] I mean, we're operating on the assumption that I do like you, right? I like you as

[04:48:49] a person and I would rather have you like that.

[04:48:52] Okay, but like, okay, but like, why is this a debatable decision?

[04:48:56] Should I save Lydia?

[04:48:57] Should I not?

[04:48:59] Like, like, is this a reference as to like, is this going back to the drug user

[04:49:03] thing?

[04:49:03] Like, would I save a random drug user from overdose?

[04:49:05] No, no, this is going back to the car, pushing me out the way.

[04:49:09] Why are you saying it's debatable if you would save me?

[04:49:12] If I knew that I would be fine, obviously, I'm going to push someone.

[04:49:16] I'm gonna just push someone out of the way of a car

[04:49:21] to save their life.

[04:49:22] Like, what do you mean debatable?

[04:49:27] I do not believe I would choose to save

[04:49:30] every person's life in that position.

[04:49:31] Okay, but you said it, so if you don't know me,

[04:49:33] if you don't know anything about me, you wouldn't care.

[04:49:37] Correct.

[04:49:38] Why?

[04:49:42] Because just the last people in the world is better.

[04:49:46] I don't have an answer for that, why I would choose to not save you, right?

[04:49:51] Like, I think fundamentally, less people in the world is probably better, right?

[04:49:56] Like, that might be a good start to that question.

[04:49:59] OK. Well, then, thank you so much for coming on.

[04:50:04] Very interesting debate.

[04:50:06] Very interesting debate.

[04:50:08] Thank you so much.

[04:50:08] I'll see you around.

[04:50:11] Thank you. See you around.

[04:50:16] I don't know. I don't know where I don't know. Okay. What? Just to be clear, anyone

[04:50:37] else if they could choose to say my vote? I want to save you even if I don't you.

[04:50:44] anyone else choose to let me die for fun? I'm just curious. I'm just curious. Why don't

[04:51:09] Why are we going for another movie? Would you possibly be able to um...

[04:51:16] Rumors? Lydia's real name is Linda.

[04:51:19] Ten children. One secret family to feed.

[04:51:23] Single mother. FYI, this is not real.

[04:51:27] Save Lydia.

[04:51:36] You hear me?

[04:51:39] you

[04:52:09] you

[04:52:39] you

[04:53:09] you

[04:53:39] I'm going to stream the video now here until I go to the stream.

[04:54:06] It's cool.

[04:54:32] How are you, people?

[04:54:42] I'm not gonna sing.

[04:55:02] I'm going to run this one like this.

[04:55:27] I'm Glendale of the Hair.

[04:55:52] Thanks, L3.

[04:55:57] Christian!

[04:55:58] Christian, thank you for the five.

[04:56:07] I, um, I, um, I can't remember what I was going to say now.

[04:56:11] Oh, yeah!

[04:56:12] Thank you, CX Bobby!

[04:56:14] Second of all, thank you, Christian.

[04:56:16] I found my uh orange ginger turmeric and lemon shot. Can I uh can I have the

[04:56:24] three of you guys come and check my yellow and yellow?

[04:56:27] You should have got all your steps in for the day.

[04:56:30] You know what? Okay I actually do not.

[04:56:33] You know what's actually a wire of Wiley concerning?

[04:56:37] Oh I can't check I'm I'm timed out.

[04:56:39] But um okay on Apple Health it says I do like 2,000 steps a day.

[04:56:44] But on my ring, it says I do like 10 to 12,000 steps a day.

[04:56:51] So I'm going to personally believe my ring, not my phone.

[04:56:59] And it's not like I'm going out without my phone.

[04:57:01] I never go anywhere without my phone.

[04:57:03] Oh my gosh, maybe that's just like walking around my flat.

[04:57:05] No, but my flat's mini.

[04:57:07] Oh, hi, Golan, how are you doing?

[04:57:14] Gwon? Gwonzalo? That is a charred name by the way.

[04:57:25] Gwonzalo?

[04:57:29] Gwonzalo!

[04:57:33] Gwoni, Gwoni, Gwoni!

[04:57:35] Hello?

[04:57:36] Hello! Can you hear me?

[04:57:38] Yes, yes.

[04:57:39] How are you doing?

[04:57:40] I need to step it up, I just realized I haven't tormented you at all today.

[04:57:45] That's good, that's good. Well, Gonzalo, what would you like to debate about?

[04:57:51] Okay, I have several topics. I wanted to make sure. You know the squatters, you know what they are, right?

[04:58:01] Yeah, so say you own a home, but you don't live there, then people can come in your house and live there, yeah.

[04:58:10] Yes, and you are against them, right?

[04:58:13] Yes.

[04:58:16] OK.

[04:58:18] I'm going to go with another.

[04:58:21] Let's see.

[04:58:21] And OK.

[04:58:23] Do you think I'd be four squatters?

[04:58:26] WW break-in?

[04:58:28] I want to, I don't know, talk about something I really

[04:58:33] support instead of going against it, but it's OK.

[04:58:38] So, and I think people who earn more money should and shouldn't pay more taxes.

[04:58:49] Okay, why not? What do you think about that? So, okay, so how much would you tax people?

[04:58:55] Thank you, Ruben.

[04:58:58] It's like presented, so I think...

[04:59:05] So, how much?

[04:59:08] No, it goes like depending on how much you earn, right?

[04:59:14] Yeah, so how much would you tax people?

[04:59:17] And the same to everyone?

[04:59:21] So how much would that be?

[04:59:23] I don't really know.

[04:59:29] So you think that people earning 12,000 a year should be taxed 40% of their income?

[04:59:36] To make up for the tiny bit?

[04:59:41] Okay.

[04:59:42] Yes.

[04:59:43] Okay, but if they're earning 12,000 a year and they're getting taxed 40% of their income,

[04:59:50] They can't survive.

[04:59:51] They can't live.

[04:59:52] I mean, from a certain amount of money, of course, you can imagine if you are ending the

[05:00:08] minimum wage, then I think you should lower it a bit.

[05:00:16] Okay.

[05:00:17] So you lower it a bit for the people that can't live without it.

[05:00:21] OK, now say you're on 40K a year, right?

[05:00:24] OK, and you're a guy, and you're supporting a family of three

[05:00:29] children and a wife on 40K a year.

[05:00:32] That's also quite hard to do, supporting five people on 40K a year.

[05:00:37] Would you give any tax break to them maybe?

[05:00:42] No.

[05:00:43] No!

[05:00:45] OK, OK.

[05:00:47] So, they should be taxed the same amount as someone earning two million.

[05:00:57] I think so.

[05:01:00] Okay.

[05:01:01] But the person who's being taxed two million, even if they give a little more to the government,

[05:01:08] that goes a long way for the government compared to the person that is on 40K, which might

[05:01:15] you know might not be able to sustain that family of five if they got taxed at 40% you know

[05:01:25] what?

[05:01:28] It means a lot that the extra money means a lot less to the guy earning two mill

[05:01:32] than it does to the guy earning 40.

[05:01:36] All right I see your point but I mean if you have and that money you know working

[05:01:45] in a business whatever and at the end and the money of the government the taxes and stuff

[05:01:53] well depending on the country but I guess in it goes like to public stuff I guess right yeah

[05:02:01] like for everyone so I don't know it's like and someone who hasn't worked as hard and is also

[05:02:11] So enjoy the service you're doing.

[05:02:14] But you don't just not work as hard and not get paid.

[05:02:17] Like what, like people work very hard

[05:02:20] and not get paid that much.

[05:02:23] Like a lot of the time if you're on two million,

[05:02:25] a lot of it's down to luck

[05:02:26] and you're probably working probably very hard.

[05:02:30] Like someone else is who's on 40K, yeah.

[05:02:33] Like what do you mean?

[05:02:35] It's not that correlated between how hard you work

[05:02:38] and how much money you earn.

[05:02:39] I mean, lack also interferes of course, but I mean, lack interferes in everything, right?

[05:02:49] But you're going to, for every rich person who tax a bit less, you're going to be taxing

[05:02:57] people that haven't got very much money, a lot more to make up for that loss of tax.

[05:03:03] you're gonna be impacting their lives are making it significantly worse like

[05:03:09] you're gonna be increasing poverty like crazy I don't know about people also if

[05:03:19] you tell them that they don't have to pay in so much taxes if they earn more

[05:03:24] Greatest thing but I have to go. See you all next time. Don't stay up too late, Lydia.

[05:03:31] Earn more money, so on.

[05:03:34] So you think they'll earn more money if they don't get taxed as much?

[05:03:40] Who haven't?

[05:03:41] I think most people try it. I don't think that many people are like,

[05:03:48] Oh, well, I'm getting taxed, so I might as well just not earn money.

[05:03:52] I don't know, I don't think about that one.

[05:03:59] I think most people, you know, work as much as they're going to work.

[05:04:04] I do not think it's very correlated at all to how hard you try.

[05:04:08] Like if I was doing a research job right now, I would

[05:04:13] still dedicate my life to it and I would be on like I don't know like 15k yeah because I that's

[05:04:19] what I wanted to do and that's researchers just don't pay that much in England and um I would

[05:04:25] probably live with I don't even know her I don't even know what I do my mom would not let me

[05:04:30] live with her like I don't even know where I'd be living bro I don't know but um but like

[05:04:36] maybe with my I actually don't know what I would do but I would do something okay and um I

[05:04:42] I was still working hella, hella hard.

[05:04:49] I think I and bro, if the government said, oh, you're on 15K, yeah, you need 40% of that money to go on tax.

[05:04:58] So, so, so you're saying that I should be I should have been earning as a researcher who's legit, like saving people's lives.

[05:05:06] Hold on.

[05:05:07] Chat with 60% of 15,000.

[05:05:12] 9000, 9000, 9000, yeah. That's messed up, bruh. It's messed up, bruh. Yes, I just did

[05:05:34] and spit out the carrot.

[05:05:38] Gonzalo?

[05:05:41] Let's see. This argument, I can't win it. It's clear.

[05:05:46] So let me go with another one, the last one. Okay.

[05:05:50] Gonzalo, we're only doing one argument per person.

[05:05:54] But this is quick. I promise.

[05:05:57] Okay, okay.

[05:05:59] Wait, did you get persuaded?

[05:06:03] No, yeah, yes. I was right with you also, but like, I have to go against you, so...

[05:06:10] But...

[05:06:11] And... I'm not very good at...

[05:06:13] Wait, so...

[05:06:14] Wait, so, but Gonzalo, Gonzalo, did you...

[05:06:17] Do you agree with me?

[05:06:19] Yes, of course.

[05:06:20] Wait, you agree with me?

[05:06:22] Yes, yes.

[05:06:23] So I want to debate.

[05:06:27] Yes?

[05:06:27] AHHHH! Gonzalo! Thank you! Thank you!

[05:06:30] Normally we only do one debate per person if that's okay. I'm sorry Gonzalo, but um, just because there's a lot a lot of people in the VC

[05:06:37] But um, I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for coming on very much, son

[05:06:43] Yes, it's being fun. I'll see your aunt. I see your aunt. I regret it. I regret it

[05:06:50] if you could choose

[05:06:52] To lower

[05:06:54] Okay, if you could choose to lower the taxes

[05:06:58] But the country that you live in becomes like significantly worse. Would you do it?

[05:07:05] Like like you could pay like less tax, but then like everything is just hell I'm lost gasped

[05:07:11] Would you do it?

[05:07:17] That's actually so interesting that's so interesting

[05:07:22] Northie pie

[05:07:25] Sweetie poo

[05:07:28] Hello, White Cloud. Hello, hello. How are you doing?

[05:07:32] Hello, Merry Christmas. Can you hear me?

[05:07:34] I can hear you. I can hear you.

[05:07:36] White, really quick. What do you think if you call someone

[05:07:39] a Norse pie, honeypoo, sweetiepoo, and they question mark you?

[05:07:45] Do you think that's weird? Do you think that's disrespectful?

[05:07:50] If you don't know the person, I don't think that's good.

[05:07:53] No, but say you did know the person.

[05:07:55] Okay, if you do know the person and it depends on your relationship with a person

[05:07:59] But so you say that and then they question mark you in return. Do you think you think that's rude and disrespectful?

[05:08:08] What's happening I need to know the relationship between that person if it's just like a friend anymore honestly

[05:08:15] Why how you doing what what would you like to debate about?

[05:08:20] My debate is something slightly more wholesome

[05:08:23] guess is finding your partner or someone right is total RNG okay okay and what do

[05:08:37] you like the basis of it mm-hmm okay let's use I can use your story as an

[05:08:42] example you said that when you were younger right you like people but you

[05:08:47] felt like you weren't confident or you weren't confident so that's why you

[05:08:49] never had like a relationship with some people or whatever, right?

[05:08:53] Yeah.

[05:08:54] And it was just about the confidence, yeah.

[05:08:58] Yeah, it's just about the confidence.

[05:09:00] So chat clearly after seeing those pictures.

[05:09:04] It was just my confidence that was lacking.

[05:09:07] Yes.

[05:09:08] Yes.

[05:09:09] Yes.

[05:09:10] Okay, sure.

[05:09:11] Confidence and other stats, for example.

[05:09:12] But I'm trying to say that it's total RNG because you could have been placed in

[05:09:15] same scenario with maximum confidence, maximum physical attraction stats or whatever and it

[05:09:22] wouldn't matter because like everything is random per se.

[05:09:33] I think that like attractiveness is very subjective so I think that yeah you can view yourself as a

[05:09:44] the 10 out of 10 with maximum confidence

[05:09:47] and lots of people still not like you,

[05:09:51] but I don't know what you mean by like random.

[05:09:57] Okay, let me give another example.

[05:09:59] I'm trying to say that like, there are things like,

[05:10:02] how do you do this?

[05:10:03] You have an object, for example,

[05:10:04] you want the object to go to a certain place,

[05:10:06] you push it, you know that the object

[05:10:08] is gonna get there, right?

[05:10:10] So the same thing when it comes to loving ourselves

[05:10:13] being a better version of ourselves, like that's what they tell us to do, right?

[05:10:17] Right.

[05:10:19] So let's say Lydia, for example, you find some gentleman, let's call him T, for example.

[05:10:27] You find him attractive or whatever.

[05:10:29] Wait, what do we call him?

[05:10:30] So you're going to...

[05:10:31] What?

[05:10:32] I said we'll call him T, like T.

[05:10:33] Oh, I bet you're like a hunty, like a hunty.

[05:10:36] Okay, I'm going to...

[05:10:37] No, no, no.

[05:10:38] Okay, T, cool.

[05:10:39] I'll just give it...

[05:10:40] Or if you want him to be called Hansi, we can call him Hansi.

[05:10:43] Hansi, yeah, let's call him Hansi, yeah.

[05:10:48] So you want Hansi, for example, and let's say Hansi is into like football or something.

[05:10:53] So you also try and get into football to like, you know, have something in common with

[05:10:57] the person.

[05:10:58] Okay.

[05:10:59] So basically you do the normal courting stuff.

[05:11:02] So you try and get close to the person, proximity and all those things.

[05:11:07] But no matter what you do, right, it all falls down to chance.

[05:11:14] So maybe you can increase your odds.

[05:11:18] Yeah, but you see that odds that you're increasing, it's not a real odd because let's say you

[05:11:24] do fall into like, it actually starts working out for example, but then two or three months

[05:11:29] down the line, Haunty has to go to Canada or Haunty has to go to New York, you get

[05:11:34] it.

[05:11:35] You have to go to New York, something like that.

[05:11:36] I'll try hard enough if he was deeply obsessed with you. He wouldn't go to Canada

[05:11:49] Yeah, you can increase your odds, but it still comes down to being chance-based like

[05:11:58] Sorry, I'm giving you ASMR again like yeah, everything's chance-based like getting a job is chance-based but

[05:12:05] But if you get the craziest degree from the craziest university, you're more likely.

[05:12:11] Yeah, when it comes to more likely, it's like they want to hire you.

[05:12:16] But if somebody doesn't want you, they don't want you, you get it?

[05:12:19] No, but you can increase your odds of the wanting your kids.

[05:12:23] You can increase the odds.

[05:12:25] Like if you try hard enough, okay?

[05:12:28] Then there are infinite universes where it works.

[05:12:32] Yeah, but you might not be in that universe, but yeah, exactly.

[05:12:38] I so strongly disagree that it's random.

[05:12:42] It is absolutely not random.

[05:12:43] Okay.

[05:12:44] If you, if you try hard enough, okay, then there is a much higher chance of it working.

[05:12:48] Yeah, there's a much higher chance, but it still falls down to like, okay, let's

[05:12:53] let me give another example.

[05:12:55] So haunties out of the picture now.

[05:12:58] You went to Canada.

[05:12:59] Are you still?

[05:13:00] Yeah.

[05:13:01] he ran away to Canada. Okay. And in Hansi running away to Canada, do you have any other

[05:13:07] names that you want? Let's use Rex for T-Rex, right?

[05:13:10] Rex, right. And Rex pulls up because Hansi is out of the picture, you get it?

[05:13:15] Okay, okay. So now Rex is there to kind of fill the void that Hansi has left?

[05:13:22] Running away. Okay, yeah.

[05:13:25] Yes, and now Rex basically gets

[05:13:28] That the odds in his favor you get it

[05:13:33] So basically you fall for Rex now

[05:13:37] Yeah

[05:13:39] But that also depends on Rex

[05:13:43] I've read and I'm trying and

[05:13:46] He I don't know what I'm just me and never said anything in the first place then yeah

[05:13:53] than me and Rex would never have met.

[05:13:54] It's about trying is so much more than randomness.

[05:14:01] But I just want to say that Rex tries, everyone tries in the scenario like nobody's not trying.

[05:14:08] That's the whole thing.

[05:14:09] No, but that's true.

[05:14:10] So Rex tries.

[05:14:11] People try different amounts.

[05:14:12] Okay.

[05:14:13] Okay.

[05:14:14] How about everyone's trying 100 percent?

[05:14:15] We're doing a vacuum experiment.

[05:14:17] So Rex tries 100 percent.

[05:14:18] Yeah, but like trying 100 percent, that's like hella stalk activity.

[05:14:22] But if you try like a hundred percent like what are you doing? Okay, like 99% say like my life depends on getting with this person

[05:14:29] Okay, literally, what are you doing like like I don't know like

[05:14:33] Find out everything about their entire family you you set up fake job interviews for their dad to like

[05:14:40] Like pretend to be an interfaith like you do everything bro. Okay?

[05:14:44] I think I understand why I hunted that.

[05:14:46] What?

[05:14:48] No, I'm just saying, Bruce, if you try 100%,

[05:14:52] it's probably going to end badly.

[05:14:55] Okay, we're trying 85%. Is that better?

[05:14:57] Okay, yeah.

[05:14:59] Okay, so everybody tried 85%,

[05:15:01] but due to unforeseen circumstances,

[05:15:03] Haunty was moved out of the picture to Canada.

[05:15:07] If he didn't go to Canada,

[05:15:09] the whole population of Canada was going to be destroyed

[05:15:11] by the red button from the other guy.

[05:15:13] other guy if you like to know

[05:15:20] yes yes yes you want that surely it was not because it was anyway yeah

[05:15:26] right

[05:15:27] and then rex fills the spot and now rex gets the chance to be with you for

[05:15:30] example right

[05:15:32] chance to be with me

[05:15:34] okay okay

[05:15:37] okay let's take me out of the situation

[05:15:42] Wait, get the chance to be with somebody, right?

[05:15:45] The chance to be with somebody.

[05:15:47] Now, this whole scenario, right?

[05:15:49] You can just marry and then have it be.

[05:15:52] Rex was the one who went to Canada,

[05:15:54] and Ponty was the one who stayed or found her after.

[05:15:58] You get it?

[05:15:59] Yeah, like that's like slight randomness, yeah.

[05:16:03] But it's not that much randomness in the grand scheme

[05:16:06] of things.

[05:16:06] It's like, yeah, if there's no job application,

[05:16:09] then you're probably not going to get the job.

[05:16:13] But if you think of it as a job, it's pretty random the job

[05:16:16] that you're going to find.

[05:16:17] You're walking down the road and you're

[05:16:19] going to see a flyer, a random flyer,

[05:16:20] on a random street, on a random window,

[05:16:22] or a random application online.

[05:16:24] It's all random.

[05:16:27] Yeah, but I think it's more about how hard you try.

[05:16:32] But does that negate the fact that it's still entirely dependent on like faith or like a

[05:16:42] flip of a coin?

[05:16:44] No, yeah, it does, it does, it literally does, it literally does, like in life, okay, if

[05:16:53] you never talk to a crush, okay, then you're probably not going to end up dating a crush.

[05:16:58] I mean, that's true.

[05:16:59] That's not randomness.

[05:17:00] randomness wait I'm trying to say that shooting your shot it doesn't like you

[05:17:07] can shoot a thousand times and still actually miss all of those shots that's

[05:17:11] what I'm trying to say yeah but it's unlikely every every shoot you're like

[05:17:18] increasing that one will hit every shot yes or I know every shoot of every

[05:17:23] shot you're increasing your chances something will hit okay it's not that

[05:17:27] random. That's why shooters shoot. Yeah, shooters shoot. The shooters also miss. Yeah, but then oh my

[05:17:36] god, but then shoot and shoot again. But they run out of bullets at times, you know? No, no, the

[05:17:43] darn, okay? Just reload, like. Max ammo perks. Well, I disagree. I strongly disagree, actually.

[05:17:52] Okay, okay. How about, okay, you, I don't know, I can't think of an example. So you genuinely believe, okay, that you, you have a friend called Stephanie, okay? And one day you're like, actually I really like Stephanie. I never realized the sparkle in her eye twinkle twinkle, okay? And then, and then, and then you're like, okay, I would really like to smoochie-wootie with Stephanie, okay?

[05:18:22] Are you being like, okay, so what happens, happens, it's random, or are you like trying

[05:18:31] to make kind of like you?

[05:18:32] Oh no, I'm definitely trying.

[05:18:34] It's just that at the end of it, if it does come to an end, I will understand that it

[05:18:40] does sometimes involve a lot of randomness, you get it.

[05:18:45] Because there are things in life that you can't choose and they happen a lot of times.

[05:18:48] You get it?

[05:18:50] Yeah, yeah, okay, but but it's more not random

[05:18:56] But let's let's let me let me do this as another example one more example

[05:19:01] Let's say Hansi was in France, right?

[05:19:07] Hansi like we're starting afresh Hansi was in France, right? Okay. Yeah, and LV

[05:19:12] Whoever that is is in UK, right? Right? And

[05:19:16] That's where they were born. So they're basically never gonna meet

[05:19:20] Well, there's the internet.

[05:19:23] There is the internet, but there's also a billion people on the internet.

[05:19:27] So the chances of meeting become exponential.

[05:19:33] In some world, they do meet, but it is random.

[05:19:37] It goes to the thing that people say that, oh, there's one person on this planet meant

[05:19:40] for you that, which I disagree.

[05:19:41] I think there are many people on this planet that are meant or could be meant for you.

[05:19:45] You get it?

[05:19:47] Which is why I believe it's very random, because I always say if somebody's meant

[05:19:49] for you, what happens if they die in your life?

[05:19:52] That's mom. Wow. I feel like that. Okay, okay. How do I phrase this question? Okay, chat.

[05:20:01] One, if you believe that finding someone is more about randomness. Two, if you believe

[05:20:09] that finding someone is more about shooting your shot and trying. And I'm not talking

[05:20:17] about shooting your shot with multiple people okay because that's bad I'm talking

[05:20:22] about just no because then if I say she was over and over again I feel like

[05:20:26] that's like yeah but like not in like a creepy way yeah but like not in like a

[05:20:31] she said no bro kind of way I think I just won I think I just won cloud but

[05:20:41] You know that was so equal. That was so equal.

[05:20:44] OK, Merry Christmas.

[05:20:46] Merry Christmas.

[05:20:47] And thank you so much for coming on.

[05:20:49] And I appreciate it very much.

[05:20:51] And that was very close.

[05:20:53] All right, have a good night.

[05:20:54] Well, you're not like sad, right?

[05:20:56] What? No, why would I be sad?

[05:20:59] You just seemed really down after I said that I won.

[05:21:02] And I just.

[05:21:04] OK, I shot and lost, so.

[05:21:05] Oh, it was a round of it.

[05:21:08] It was a round of it.

[05:21:10] Okay, well I'll see you around Cloudy now, sorry about that.

[05:21:14] All right.

[05:21:17] Bruce said I shot and I lost.

[05:21:23] After saying you can shoot a thousand shots and miss all of them.

[05:21:29] Damn.

[05:21:33] Damn.

[05:21:35] Well, nasty. Just Norse actually. Norse. Norse man. If you please, could you possibly drag

[05:21:50] the next in? Did I say that right? Norse man with a capital M and a capital N.

[05:22:04] Now you don't want to.

[05:22:07] Notice you pie my little poodle-woodle.

[05:22:10] I'm gonna grab you by the cheek and wiggle if you don't drag someone in real quick, okay?

[05:22:19] Mighty!

[05:22:20] You've been officially dragged.

[05:22:22] Sorry that took a while.

[05:22:23] I think one of my mods was acting a bit rogue.

[05:22:26] Hello, hello.

[05:22:27] How are you doing?

[05:22:28] How are you doing?

[05:22:29] How are you doing?

[05:22:30] Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine.

[05:22:32] fine? Is my mic not too terrible?

[05:22:36] No, it's good, it's good.

[05:22:38] Nighty, what brings you here today?

[05:22:42] So, let's talk about some science fiction, I guess.

[05:22:47] My topic is that we are the only one

[05:22:51] intelligent life in our universe.

[05:22:56] Hello.

[05:22:58] Hello.

[05:23:00] Well, isn't that more likely to not be true than be true?

[05:23:05] This is, as for me, I think it's true.

[05:23:11] Okay, but like...

[05:23:13] What do we really need for life?

[05:23:16] Water and oxygen.

[05:23:18] There are like lots of planets with water and oxygen, I'm pretty sure.

[05:23:23] I guess yes, but I'm talking about exactly, as I said, intelligent life.

[05:23:30] And of course oxygen and water is needed, of course, but I'm talking about theories like inflation and so on.

[05:23:42] And it's about endless inflation, that we like have endless amount of bubbles and one of these bubbles we are leaving.

[05:23:56] And this bubble collect like galaxies solar system. I don't know and so

[05:24:04] we believe in this and can you agree with me like what

[05:24:10] Sir, bubbles lead?

[05:24:15] Bubble, yeah.

[05:24:16] Inflation?

[05:24:17] Yeah, bubble, one bubble is one universe like we are living in.

[05:24:25] Okay, so a bubble is a universe and what about inflation?

[05:24:31] So about inflation, it's like one of the theory or the multiverse that says that we exist inside a bubble and there are an infinite number of such bubbles, as I said.

[05:24:48] And we like have space between these bubbles and this space is increasing, I will say, just like theory of this inflation

[05:25:05] So, my subject, like, I'm saying just about intelligent life, yeah, and do you agree with

[05:25:19] me with it, that in our universe we are the only ones?

[05:25:24] No, I think that there's other things.

[05:25:27] I think there's Li'nzei and...

[05:25:33] But why we, so in your opinion, why we can't face with them and...

[05:25:40] Well, I think the universe is infinite.

[05:25:45] So I feel like some of the stuff will have happened.

[05:25:50] But there is like a horizon and in my opinion in this particularly universe we are like

[05:26:00] ends on the paper I will say and we just

[05:26:07] Cannot face

[05:26:09] other

[05:26:10] Where ends in the paper?

[05:26:13] Yeah, yeah, and we can see something around us, you know like

[05:26:19] Dimensions or bulk I don't know how

[05:26:24] Okay, I guess you understand me

[05:26:27] damn

[05:26:29] Does that ever make you feel a bit like

[05:26:31] Damn pointless

[05:26:34] That we're just ants on the paper

[05:26:38] Yeah, and we can't contact or communicate with other maybe

[05:26:45] civilizations because they're living in a different bubble and we like have to

[05:26:51] I don't know come up some idea how to

[05:26:54] How to achieve would you like okay save our like alien bodies and like you knew that there were alien bodies, okay?

[05:27:04] Would you risk talking to them knowing that they could end civilization?

[05:27:11] I guess yes

[05:27:16] I don't know this is

[05:27:20] Civilization just cuz they cute

[05:27:24] In my opinion this is just can be because so yes this is a terrible in my

[05:27:37] I

[05:27:46] What is a not cute

[05:27:50] No, what is that just like normal like uglier like an aliens

[05:27:56] No

[05:27:58] I guess not.

[05:28:02] Wait, are you what?

[05:28:05] Wait, hold on. So just to be clear.

[05:28:10] So just to be clear,

[05:28:13] if you would communicate with alien bodies

[05:28:19] knowing that they could end civilization.

[05:28:21] But not if they're like normal ugly alec aliens?

[05:28:29] I guess not. They cannot just do this because they want to contact us as well and it can be I guess.

[05:28:44] because they want to get a new experience and yes, we are.

[05:28:52] Do you...

[05:28:54] Do you... Do you want to...?

[05:28:56] Okay, yeah, okay.

[05:28:58] Um, right.

[05:29:00] Um...

[05:29:02] But you disagree with me, right?

[05:29:04] Well, yeah, I don't think you should judge an alien, by the way, it looks.

[05:29:10] But we just a little bit changed the topic about aliens, but as for my first question.

[05:29:25] Yes.

[05:29:26] For intelligent life.

[05:29:30] You agree or disagree?

[05:29:32] I think that there is intelligent life.

[05:29:38] in our universe right in our bubble yes yes but I feel like it's quite hard to

[05:29:44] argue you know because um because um um it's a little it's um it's a little

[05:29:56] brain overwhelming you know and at the end of the day I'm only gonna add on

[05:29:59] paper but um nice you thank you so much for coming on I really really really

[05:30:06] I really, really appreciate it.

[05:30:08] And base tags, I like them.

[05:30:14] Interesting to hear your thoughts.

[05:30:16] Thank you very much.

[05:30:18] I'm really glad that you are presenting your community

[05:30:21] with such an opportunity.

[05:30:24] Thank you, Naito, I appreciate it.

[05:30:26] Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[05:30:27] Thank you too, thank you too.

[05:30:29] Have an amazing night.

[05:30:30] Can I?

[05:30:31] You too.

[05:30:32] Good 1990, good 1990.

[05:30:36] I'll chat out with you.

[05:30:40] You would tell me if I'm grinning and I have like, I'm trying so hard not to pop out in

[05:30:46] a smile because I'm eating a salad.

[05:30:48] And we all know how kale and smiling grow, eh?

[05:30:52] If I was having my normal ready meal, I would just be able to like slurp down the like

[05:30:59] chicken and rice, but I'm not having chicken and rice.

[05:31:03] So, you say ew because you know what it's just say.

[05:31:08] Norsi, could you drag the next person please?

[05:31:15] Otherwise?

[05:31:18] Yeah, didn't even wait for the otherwise.

[05:31:23] That was a good idea.

[05:31:25] Hi, how are you doing?

[05:31:28] Hello, hello, can you hear me?

[05:31:32] me? Am I on mute? No, I can hear you. If you can hear me. I can, I can hear you just fine.

[05:31:40] Nice. Well, come on, how you doing? I'm doing good.

[05:31:46] Hold on. Is there a if I put on the air pod real quick?

[05:31:51] Sure. I'll just be here talking with chat, having a little discussion.

[05:31:55] And then, Chat, what do you think?

[05:31:59] Do you think that the Industrial Revolution should have happened?

[05:32:06] Wait, what?

[05:32:09] So, Mike, are you there?

[05:32:12] I can hear you, sorry.

[05:32:13] Nice.

[05:32:16] So, Cormac, now I've found out that Chat

[05:32:21] is against the Industrial Revolution.

[05:32:23] Thank you so much for the pull, as I know more

[05:32:25] now. Well, what would you like to debate about today?

[05:32:33] This is something that I don't want to happen.

[05:32:37] But I think if it kept on being worse, it should happen.

[05:32:43] And this is about robots being permanently deleted.

[05:32:48] Robots being permanently deleted?

[05:32:52] Just robots.

[05:32:54] I think robots can currently get going with it.

[05:32:57] Here, like, if it continues, like, what was being done on,

[05:33:02] like, you know, uh, package.

[05:33:03] I'm really sorry, but, um, you're really muffled now.

[05:33:07] You're in your iPods.

[05:33:09] Would you maybe be able to have one iPod and then, like,

[05:33:12] speak into the other?

[05:33:13] Do you know what I'm saying?

[05:33:15] Yeah.

[05:33:16] This is one?

[05:33:18] Yeah, if you, like, speak into one of the iPods,

[05:33:20] then I feel like it might be a little better.

[05:33:24] Maybe if you give us a Dorae Mifasa we can like cast?

[05:33:29] Dorae Mifasa will not be there.

[05:33:32] Yeah, yeah.

[05:33:34] And whatever you do, don't listen to chat saying,

[05:33:36] look it, please do not look it.

[05:33:38] I'm confused.

[05:33:40] Why would, why would, why would robots be deleted?

[05:33:48] So, apparently what's been going on is

[05:33:53] is there's a lot of adults talking to kids.

[05:33:57] And there's certainly something that

[05:34:01] has been kind of like things going on

[05:34:04] and kind of like just struggling off.

[05:34:06] And I don't want this to happen,

[05:34:08] but it's kind of like the whole or needle situation.

[05:34:11] If it keeps on happening,

[05:34:12] like just for the protection of kids,

[05:34:15] it should maybe get to really with nothing.

[05:34:19] So what do you mean by robots?

[05:34:20] because I think of robots as AI.

[05:34:23] Like, I went on Club Penguin as a kid.

[05:34:27] Maybe I was missing, but I always heard that Club Penguin

[05:34:29] got shot down, because there were more like,

[05:34:34] like fully grown men talking to kids on the platform

[05:34:38] than there were kids on the platform.

[05:34:41] Well, that's what's going on with robots.

[05:34:43] It's a game thing where you play with a bunch of people

[05:34:47] all ages. And it's a popular box that you like.

[05:34:51] Oh, my gosh, Roblox shut down this whole time. I think you said robots. Yeah, but yeah, but like, they're not going to shut down every single chat room or anything. Like, like, like, like, like, like, if Robux, if Roblox, Robux, oh my gosh, I'm a boomer. If Roblox gets shut down, then there'll just be something else instead of Roblox. Like, like, there's always been stuff like that.

[05:35:17] like Mushy Monsters, like Movies on the Planet, like Club Penguin, that stuff always has been a thing, you know?

[05:35:29] Yeah. To me that's like the unfortunate thing, it's like you can't really stop anything from happening, unfortunately.

[05:35:36] You can only do the best that you can.

[05:35:38] Yeah. Well, I don't think it's gonna be shut down.

[05:35:44] I really don't. I mean, if it's not Roblox, it's probably going to be something else.

[05:35:52] And it's actually the same. Like, oh my gosh, every single kid is on Roblox. So, yeah, I don't think it will, just because it's been a thing since ever.

[05:36:04] that unfortunately it has been worse but see I have siblings like my parents are

[05:36:15] just like you know you can't be on public service or anything because it

[05:36:19] involves like they want them on private service for the safety of like I get that

[05:36:23] right I don't press anyone on there you don't know what places people do it

[05:36:28] especially on the game side with a bunch of kids or about pretend you

[05:36:33] because you don't know what the people are doing,

[05:36:35] you don't know what to talk to.

[05:36:35] Yeah, maybe roadblocks wouldn't be shut down.

[05:36:38] Maybe it would be a thing of like,

[05:36:39] you're only allowed to be on a private server

[05:36:41] if you can like prove you're over the age of 13.

[05:36:44] Yeah.

[05:36:45] I mean not on a public server.

[05:36:48] It's like I said, I don't want to shut down,

[05:36:51] but I think like due to certain circumstances,

[05:36:55] it's sure it takes this, I don't know.

[05:36:59] Yeah.

[05:37:00] No, I agree with you, Comet.

[05:37:01] I agree, but I think that Roblox will find a solution and come to the rescue at the end

[05:37:08] of the day because it's epic.

[05:37:10] Shout out to all the WW, Roblox, and Joyas, and chat, I'm a right.

[05:37:18] Yeah, that's a lot of hope, like, I have something else, if I hire some people again,

[05:37:27] far as some people did and find better people to take care of roadblocks to, I mean, to

[05:37:33] set boundaries to staff maybe. I don't know, it's a little bit hard because you know, there's

[05:37:39] a lot of people that live across the world, you can't talk to every single child there,

[05:37:43] you know, that's the important thing. It's like something will slip away.

[05:37:48] I'm really struggling to understand what you're saying. I'm really sorry, Colmick.

[05:37:52] I think it might be the speakers, but I hope they have a good day.

[05:37:59] I'm really sorry.

[05:38:00] I'm bad with the muffles.

[05:38:04] That's fine.

[05:38:05] I don't think I have a speaker or anything.

[05:38:08] I'm sorry.

[05:38:09] I'm sorry.

[05:38:10] It would be really nice to have you back on to debates

[05:38:13] next time.

[05:38:14] I'm sorry.

[05:38:17] That's all good.

[05:38:17] I'm going.

[05:38:18] I'll see you around, bro, and don't throw your airports

[05:38:21] away because they'll end up in Ghana are working.

[05:38:26] I don't know if that's wrong.

[05:38:28] See you around.

[05:38:32] Chad, I'm going to be so salty if the people in Ghana got them to work.

[05:38:37] No, I think your VC messed up people's mics.

[05:38:41] It was.

[05:38:43] Blame it on me.

[05:38:44] Like I can take it.

[05:38:45] No, literally, you blame on me.

[05:38:46] That's literally fine.

[05:38:47] That's literally fine.

[05:38:48] Yeah, it's fine.

[05:38:49] Don't worry guys.

[05:38:50] It's me.

[05:38:51] I'm sorry, I didn't mean that actually, I mean that's a very good point Noisy, would

[05:39:00] you please be able to possibly drag it up, he left.

[05:39:04] Brola, okay, well, um, Nois, would you please, please, guys, can we make Nois feel incredibly

[05:39:13] uncomfortable every time between debates?

[05:39:16] LAD! Hello LAD, how are you doing?

[05:39:23] I'm feeling kind of cool every time between today.

[05:39:27] Hello, can you hear me?

[05:39:29] LAD is a little bit of an acor. Oh, I think it's okay now.

[05:39:32] LAD, so we can hear you, we can hear you, how are you doing?

[05:39:37] Yeah, can you hear me now?

[05:39:39] Yes, yes, how are you doing?

[05:39:41] Okay, cool. Pretty good, how are you?

[05:39:44] i'm in a thing what you are what you like to be about today

[05:39:49] well i had two subjects one

[05:39:51] light and one serious

[05:39:54] the light one is that magic is real it's just not what you think it is

[05:40:00] right and uh... heavier subject is that

[05:40:02] machines have a soul and we need to give them rights

[05:40:07] one or two chat one or two

[05:40:09] uh...

[05:40:10] me

[05:40:12] One, magic is real.

[05:40:14] Two, machines have souls.

[05:40:19] OK, I think that's more twos.

[05:40:22] Vlad, have you ever talked to a robot

[05:40:33] as if it was a person and pretended that it was a person?

[05:40:37] No, but I've never had an imaginary friend,

[05:40:42] But I can imagine having robot friends.

[05:40:45] OK.

[05:40:47] OK.

[05:40:48] So why do you think that they, that robots have cells?

[05:40:56] Well, right off the bat, I'm going

[05:40:58] to use the intelligence scale that,

[05:41:05] I can't remember the name of who put forth the scale,

[05:41:07] but all things have intelligence.

[05:41:10] Humans are like a nine, rocks are at like a half, dogs are at four or five.

[05:41:17] But that is a measure of complexity.

[05:41:20] Wait, did you just say rocks are a half?

[05:41:24] Yes.

[05:41:25] Well, rocks don't have brains though.

[05:41:29] They contain information.

[05:41:31] They have intelligence because they contain information.

[05:41:36] How do they contain information?

[05:41:39] And they're a collection of molecules ordered in a specific manner that right there is information

[05:41:47] Okay, when I think of information I think of like cells and like DNA

[05:41:53] Right exactly so the basic bit of

[05:41:59] That information on the cellular level or a DNA level is a single molecule

[05:42:03] Human beings are extremely complex because we contain a whole bunch of information, but

[05:42:11] more to the point of machines, the machines are now as complex as humans.

[05:42:19] Yeah, but something's not just intelligent because it's complex.

[05:42:23] I don't know.

[05:42:24] A star is a human.

[05:42:25] No, I'm not arguing intelligence, say.

[05:42:28] I'm not arguing intelligence, per se.

[05:42:31] No, right exactly. Did you ever hear soul because it's complex either?

[05:42:41] True. The ability to recognize that soul might be tied to having the complexity

[05:42:48] to observe. No, I think of soul is like it's something like outside of okay

[05:42:57] Okay, if I were to argue a soul, you know, sometimes I think that we're all soulless

[05:43:04] Um, right pointless. I am very much on the edge

[05:43:10] I'm I'm very much on that, you know, not sure if something has a soul or not, but um

[05:43:18] But uh, if I were to argue that things do have souls then I would argue that a soul

[05:43:24] Soul is something that isn't in your body and that goes with you out of your body, like

[05:43:31] it can leave your body, right, if I were to think that you had a soul.

[05:43:35] If you shut down a computer, you shut down a computer.

[05:43:38] So, you can look at it this way.

[05:43:44] You shut down a computer and a computer goes to sleep.

[05:43:47] It's the same thing for human beings when we're asleep.

[05:43:51] And if there's a soul that can come into a human, can it come into a dog?

[05:43:56] Can it come into, uh, let's say a haunted car?

[05:44:00] Uh, yeah.

[05:44:02] But it's not in a computer because, because if you break the computer, the information

[05:44:09] within the computer breaks.

[05:44:11] It's the same holds true for a human or a dog or a haunted car.

[05:44:16] No, no, no, but that's like the whole point of a soul.

[05:44:19] That's like the whole point.

[05:44:20] like it's with you

[05:44:22] it's with you when you die

[05:44:24] like when your body is like anymore

[05:44:27] the

[05:44:28] okay so this is uh... a little bit of a

[05:44:31] uh... a plan words because

[05:44:33] we would actually to have a debate on this we would have to kind of

[05:44:37] come to the agreement as to what a soul is

[05:44:40] so that's kind of part of the whole debate

[05:44:44] okay what do you think it's all where does that's all come

[05:44:49] My personal belief is that there's no such thing as a soul or an internal, non-ending status of humanity.

[05:44:57] However, there's almost certainly something that continues on after we our physical bodies leave us.

[05:45:06] Wait, so if you have a soul, how do you think that computers have souls?

[05:45:12] They can have the same thing as what we have.

[05:45:15] There's something inside of you and I

[05:45:20] that we would describe or that we feel as though this must

[05:45:23] continue beyond us.

[05:45:25] A machine is completely capable of coming

[05:45:28] to that same understanding if it's

[05:45:31] complex enough to understand that when it's turned off,

[05:45:36] the lights go off.

[05:45:38] That's maybe where the sun goes.

[05:45:39] I don't see them so.

[05:45:43] OK.

[05:45:45] So would it be fair to say then that you believe

[05:45:51] that there's no immortal, eternal thing

[05:45:56] that lasts outside of a human?

[05:45:58] Nope.

[05:45:59] Once they die?

[05:45:59] Once they die.

[05:46:01] Wait, less.

[05:46:02] Ah, it's nice.

[05:46:03] I like that.

[05:46:05] I like that.

[05:46:06] That's like wholesome because it's like life is fleeting.

[05:46:12] Exactly.

[05:46:13] So I'm not doing very good at my point,

[05:46:17] but it's led to a different one.

[05:46:19] I don't believe that there's a soul

[05:46:22] that continues on forever.

[05:46:24] However, I believe that there is something

[05:46:26] that carries on within lives or past life,

[05:46:29] and that's a belief.

[05:46:30] But if there is no soul,

[05:46:34] that makes life the most precious thing there is

[05:46:38] because you can't ever get it back.

[05:46:40] You can't ever repeat it.

[05:46:43] Yeah, but I can't argue with it. I can't argue with you on this.

[05:46:49] Well, yeah, but that's because you won.

[05:46:51] Gather ye rows, but slighly may, for old times a client.

[05:46:55] I won't obey it!

[05:46:56] And the flower that's d-

[05:46:57] Well, yeah, you just claim that there's anything such as a soul which really negates the-

[05:47:02] and I agree with you on that point-

[05:47:04] that negates the fact that a machine can get a soul.

[05:47:08] I wanted to be double you don't yeah, you're pretty yeah, you're really good at today

[05:47:18] I

[05:47:21] Appreciate that. Yeah, you're I'm not gonna lie. I'm really really friggin tired all of a sudden like you know when you saw like

[05:47:27] hallucinating out the corner of your eyes

[05:47:30] Yes, me on street like ever that the same that pops you as you've ever done on

[05:47:34] I've just been like, holy sakes, you have the corner of my eyes kind of tired.

[05:47:38] I don't want to add anything.

[05:47:40] I think I might have a Coca-Cola.

[05:47:42] Was it people?

[05:47:44] Did you see a little green people off the other sides?

[05:47:47] Have you had that?

[05:47:50] Once in my life, yes.

[05:47:54] And I was super tired, super strung out, everything.

[05:48:00] What did the green people look like?

[05:48:03] They were just in the corner there and you'd like see something out of the corner of your

[05:48:07] eye and then you'd go look at it and it's gone.

[05:48:09] Aha, what did you get, Skag?

[05:48:12] Oh no, I wasn't scared of that.

[05:48:15] My mom had anxiety and fear.

[05:48:20] She didn't want her children to have any of that and raised me that way to my detriment

[05:48:24] because I don't know when to, when I should be afraid.

[05:48:28] What's the craziest thing that you've ever seen?

[05:48:32] Crazy thing I've ever seen. I come out of my house. Somebody recently asked me this so I thought about it.

[05:48:41] I come out of my house and I'm walking to my vehicle and on the ground is a piece of fiberglass plastic from a mold I'd made.

[05:48:52] Sitting on top of it is a dead mummified frog.

[05:49:01] No idea how it got there. Any animal that picked it up would have probably ate it.

[05:49:06] There is... it wasn't there like an hour before.

[05:49:10] What do you mean by mom-of-five? That wrapped in bandage?

[05:49:14] No, no. It was a dried out frog.

[05:49:17] So the frogs here, they go into the ground and they kind of desiccate and lose their moisture.

[05:49:23] When the rain comes, it moistens them back up and then they come back to life.

[05:49:27] Well, this one was completely dried out.

[05:49:30] didn't come back to life. But it was sitting on top of a man-made piece of

[05:49:36] plastic that I'd put that I'd dropped there. I have no idea how the hell that

[05:49:42] happened. Oh well um... I'll post a picture in Discord of the actual event or

[05:49:52] or in that event of the actual picture of the frog.

[05:49:56] Okay, you don't need to do that.

[05:49:58] Is that weird enough for ya?

[05:50:01] Or would you like something slightly less weird?

[05:50:05] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I think that's good.

[05:50:07] I think that's good.

[05:50:09] Okay, well, I thought I was saying

[05:50:10] that they want the picture, right?

[05:50:11] High resolution.

[05:50:13] High resolution, well, I was.

[05:50:16] Hell yeah.

[05:50:17] Glad things are so good.

[05:50:18] It'll take me a minute or two to dig it up.

[05:50:19] Thank you so much for coming on.

[05:50:21] I appreciate it very much and I'll see you around. Thank you.

[05:50:25] Exactly. Ellen, thanks for the debate. I like having to think.

[05:50:29] WW. Um, chat? Uh...

[05:50:35] Why is this got...

[05:50:38] Yeah, let's delete this now, eh?

[05:50:46] Right. Um...

[05:50:48] I'm seeing some aliens in my room Lydia in hallucinating good-night chats. Oh, no, no, no, okay. I'll chat. I really don't know too bad

[05:50:57] I'm I'm vibing so hard

[05:51:00] Debates is so good today. I should have started earlier

[05:51:05] Should I have another Coca-Cola?

[05:51:10] Should I have another Coca-Cola?

[05:51:18] Oh, by the way, so one more Coca-Cola means, so either end stream or have another Coca-Cola.

[05:51:28] Because I, oh my gosh, you know when you just like can't process what someone's saying,

[05:51:34] I got that like, like, never said it.

[05:51:35] Remember, if you delete something from Lydia Violet Discord, it is gone from the

[05:51:39] internet forever, at least from our memory.

[05:51:42] Yeah.

[05:51:43] What was that, Yvonne?

[05:51:44] Nothing.

[05:51:45] Yeah.

[05:51:46] You saw nothing.

[05:51:47] So true.

[05:51:48] So true.

[05:51:49] Yeah, Coke.

[05:51:50] Okay, honestly, honestly, if I'm this hard and I have Coke, I only lost like half an

[05:51:56] hour to an hour.

[05:51:57] So it's fine.

[05:51:58] Okay.

[05:51:59] Jack, I will be...

[05:52:00] I will be right back.

[05:52:11] an antidote to dissatisfaction.

[05:52:17] You're with the feeling that things are not as they should be.

[05:52:21] That you're not successful enough.

[05:52:23] You're in a special band of ziv.

[05:52:26] That you don't have the things you crave.

[05:52:29] A chronic dissatisfaction that makes you look outwards with envy

[05:52:34] and inwards with disappointment.

[05:52:37] Pop culture advertising and social media

[05:52:39] made this worse by reminding you that aiming for anything less than your dream job is failure,

[05:52:44] you need to have great experiences constantly, be conventionally attractive,

[05:52:48] have a lot of friends, and find your soulmate, and that others have all of these things,

[05:52:52] and are truly happy.

[05:52:54] And of course, a vast array of self-improvement products

[05:52:57] implies that it's all your fault for not working hard enough on yourself.

[05:53:02] In the last two decades, researchers have been starting to investigate

[05:53:06] how we can counteract these impulses.

[05:53:09] The field of positive psychology emerged, the study of what makes life worth living,

[05:53:13] while cognitive behavioral therapy was developed to change negative feelings.

[05:53:18] Scientists began to ask why some people happier and more satisfied than others,

[05:53:23] and are there ways to apply what they're doing right to the rest of us?

[05:53:27] In this video, we want to talk about one of the strongest predictors of how happy people are,

[05:53:32] how easily they make friends, and how good they are at dealing with hardship.

[05:53:35] An antidote to dissatisfaction, so to speak.

[05:53:40] Gratitude.

[05:53:41] While gratitude may sound like another self-improvement trend preached by people who use hashtags,

[05:53:46] what we currently know about it is based on a body of scientific work and studies.

[05:53:51] We'll include them in the description.

[05:53:54] Gratitude can mean very different things to different people in different contexts.

[05:53:58] It's a character trait, a feeling, a virtue, and a behavior.

[05:54:03] You can feel grateful towards someone who did something for you, for random events like

[05:54:08] the weather or even for nature or fate, and it's wired into our biology.

[05:54:15] How Gratitude Connects Us To Each Other

[05:54:18] The predecessor of gratitude is probably reciprocity.

[05:54:23] It likely evolved as a biological signal that motivates animals to exchange things

[05:54:27] for their mutual benefit and can be found in the animal kingdom among certain fish,

[05:54:32] birds or mammals, but especially in primates. When your brain recognizes that someone's

[05:54:37] done something nice for you, it reacts with gratitude to motivate you to repay them. This

[05:54:43] gratitude makes you care about others, and others care about you. This was important because

[05:54:49] as human brains got better at reading emotions, selfish individuals were identified and shunned.

[05:54:56] It became an evolutionary advantage to play well with others and build lasting.

[05:55:00] There wasn't any Coca-Cola, so instead I got Goof Juice, 2.0, but I missed.

[05:55:10] Okay, also, we're gonna watch this video and then we're gonna do a few more debates.

[05:55:18] So if you would like to debate, this is your last chance to join the debate VC in

[05:55:25] That's good, okay.

[05:55:26] Two ships.

[05:55:27] For example, if you were hungry and someone else showed you where to find tasty berries,

[05:55:32] you felt gratitude towards them and a bond to return the favor in the future.

[05:55:37] A drive to be pro-social.

[05:55:39] When you repaid them, they felt gratitude towards you.

[05:55:43] This brought your ancestors close together and forged bonds and friendships.

[05:55:49] So early forms of gratitude were biological mechanisms that modified your behavior

[05:55:53] towards cooperation, which helped humans to dominate Earth.

[05:55:58] But over time, gratitude became more than just an

[05:56:01] Did you know your jaw is the strongest muscle in your body?

[05:56:07] Impulse to play fair.

[05:56:10] The consequences of gratitude.

[05:56:11] Ah!

[05:56:12] I'm keeping for the two years!

[05:56:13] The scientists found that gratitude still makes the pathways of your brain involved

[05:56:17] in feelings of reward, forming social bonds, and interpreting others' intentions.

[05:56:23] It also makes it easier to save and retrieve positive memories.

[05:56:28] I missed the start of this, so unless someone could type anything, I'm going to just process

[05:56:38] it into here.

[05:56:39] Oh my god!

[05:56:40] How many?

[05:56:41] Am I bad?

[05:56:42] All right.

[05:56:43] I'm going to just...

[05:56:47] You missed us fiving with each other.

[05:56:49] It's too much to tie.

[05:56:51] Okay, I'll figure it out.

[05:56:53] Even more, Gratitude directly counteracts negative feelings and traits like envy and social comparison.

[05:57:01] Gratitude is the antidote to disaster faction. Oh my gosh, you know what? Actually so true.

[05:57:07] I remember, um, so, so, so every morning and every night I write in my diary, right?

[05:57:12] And, um, and in my-

[05:57:15] You say that about the jaw, but let's ask Jake Paul.

[05:57:18] And, um, yeah, I write in my diary every morning, every night, and the one I was first getting

[05:57:25] into journaling, okay, I was looking at like the journaling girly pops, okay, and they,

[05:57:31] um, they like put what they're grateful for every morning, right, okay, and, um, I kind

[05:57:35] of stopped doing it because like it took a lot of time, but not that I was just

[05:57:40] like, I was, I just cut some things out, okay, and, um, and, um, but you know

[05:57:44] what, I feel like it was actually so nice, like if you write down everything good

[05:57:48] or like you think everything good about some things that you're grateful for is actually so horrible.

[05:57:51] Arsicism.

[05:57:53] You know how many times I put, I put WW community?

[05:57:58] Cynicism.

[05:57:59] Zero. JOKING! Like everywhere, everything.

[05:58:01] And materialism.

[05:58:02] Everything.

[05:58:03] As a consequence, people who are grateful no matter what for tend to be happier and more satisfied.

[05:58:10] They have better relationships and the easier time your smile is the strongest muscle in existence.

[05:58:15] Are you saying I look like that scary, like you know that smile movie?

[05:58:22] Making friends.

[05:58:23] They sleep better, tend to suffer less from depression, addiction and burnout, and are

[05:58:30] better at dealing with traumatic events.

[05:58:34] In a way, gratitude makes it less likely that you'll fall into one of the psychological

[05:58:38] traps modern life has set for you.

[05:58:41] For example, gratitude measurably counters the tendency to forget and downplay positive

[05:58:46] events.

[05:58:47] If you work long and hard for something, actually getting it can feel dark and empty.

[05:58:52] You can find yourself in a shopping-house and try to achieve the next biggest thing,

[05:58:58] looking for that satisfaction instead of being satisfied with yourself.

[05:59:02] Or imagine being lonely and wanting to have more friends.

[05:59:05] I actually so disagree with that point.

[05:59:07] You know when people are like,

[05:59:08] nah, like don't like do stuff,

[05:59:12] be happy with what you've got?

[05:59:16] How do I say this in a non-depressing way?

[05:59:18] I don't mean this as depressing, okay?

[05:59:19] I don't mean this as depressing.

[05:59:20] I feel like it just sounds depressing when it comes out.

[05:59:23] I feel like distracting yourself by being busy

[05:59:27] is like, it's not distracting.

[05:59:29] Just being busy is like fun, right?

[05:59:31] It's like a fun thing to do.

[05:59:32] I feel like if you have nothing to do

[05:59:34] and you just sit and think, then you just ponder.

[05:59:37] Which like, is no way the good thing.

[05:59:39] You actually might have someone or even multiple.

[05:59:41] If you actually just have nothing to do,

[05:59:42] then you just like your brain just starts to spiral off

[05:59:45] like, people who want to hang out.

[05:59:47] But you might feel that this is not enough

[05:59:48] to get your ears open.

[05:59:49] Even though if your brain did not tell you

[05:59:51] to stop biting down, you would shatter your teeth

[05:59:54] due to how strong your jaw muscles are.

[05:59:57] Oh, that makes me feel so weird.

[05:59:59] Same with, same with your finger,

[06:00:02] So you can bite through your finger, learn something new every day here, right?

[06:00:07] Feel bad about yourself.

[06:00:09] So you might turn down their attempts to hang out and become more lonely.

[06:00:13] If you feel grateful for your relationships instead, you might accept invitations or even

[06:00:18] take the initiative.

[06:00:19] Yeah but like at the same time, like how do you just like feel grateful?

[06:00:21] Like if I feel like if something's going well, then you're grateful, right?

[06:00:25] I know something's going badly, then you're not like...

[06:00:27] The more often you risk opening up, the higher the chance of solidifying relationships and

[06:00:33] meeting new people.

[06:00:34] Like, I feel like it's something you feel, not something like, I'm gonna try and feel.

[06:00:40] In the best case, gratitude can trigger a feedback loop.

[06:00:44] Positive feelings lead to more pro-social behavior, which leads to more-

[06:00:48] Just be happy, foolhead.

[06:00:49] All positive social experiences that cause more positive feelings.

[06:00:54] This is a common experience after serious hardship, like chemotherapy for example.

[06:00:59] Life can feel amazing after a crisis is over.

[06:01:02] The smallest things can-

[06:01:03] Chat every day I lose my phone, like 10 times a day.

[06:01:07] And every day I am so happy when I find my phone.

[06:01:09] Me bottomless sources of job from being able to take a jet-sitting in the sun.

[06:01:14] I always think this is it.

[06:01:15] I've fully lost it this time.

[06:01:16] This is it.

[06:01:17] Lydia, you've gone and you've done it.

[06:01:18] And it fell out when you're at the grocery store and you've gone and done it.

[06:01:21] Or chatting with a friend.

[06:01:22] And then I get it back.

[06:01:23] Your life is the same or maybe even slightly worse than before, but your brain compares your present experiences with the times when life was bad and reacts with gratitude.

[06:01:34] So, in a nutshell, gratitude refocuses your attention towards the good things you have.

[06:01:40] And the consequences of this shift are better feelings and more positive experiences.

[06:01:46] While it is great to know these things, is that actually a way for you to feel more of it?

[06:01:52] How to make your brain more grateful? The ability to experience more or less

[06:01:59] gratitude is not equally distributed. You have what's known as trait gratitude

[06:02:05] that determines how much you are able to feel it. Oh my gosh you wonder the

[06:02:11] craziest thing in the whole of the universe. No chat this is actually the

[06:02:14] craziest thing in the whole universe okay? Did you know? Okay so when I'm old I

[06:02:22] I want to do like every single drug I don't because that's illegal and I've never

[06:02:27] admitted to illegal things on stream don't do drugs but like my goal before I die

[06:02:31] is just try everything right okay but I want to do that when I'm old one of the

[06:02:36] reasons I want to do that when I'm old okay oh my gosh did you know it that

[06:02:41] every time you have um what are they called authors like ecstasy MDMA I

[06:02:48] think they're the same things but like like a few of like the ones that give

[06:02:51] like hella hella dopamine. Did you know that every time you have oppies, okay, you can never feel

[06:03:00] the same height of happiness ever again?

[06:03:05] Because it like fries your dopamine and serotonin receptors.

[06:03:10] So for every time you do something like take ecstasy,

[06:03:14] you will never be able to reach the like full potential of happiness ever again.

[06:03:18] Like you'll never be able to feel as good as that.

[06:03:23] So like say you win the lottery, okay?

[06:03:27] Like person A wins the lottery versus person B took ecstasy and then like 10 years down

[06:03:35] the line won the lottery.

[06:03:37] Person A will feel happier.

[06:03:39] Sorry, that's a really, not saying that winning the lottery is like peak, it was

[06:03:45] just an example, okay bro?

[06:03:47] It depends.

[06:03:48] I'm gonna be on some hate TikTok. Wow. How did I get onto the sad materialistic side of TikTok?

[06:03:54] You're genetic.

[06:03:56] LL materials?

[06:03:58] Personality and culture.

[06:03:59] I'm sorry bro!

[06:04:00] This discovery made scientists wonder if they could design exercises that change your

[06:04:05] trait gratitude and lead to more happiness.

[06:04:08] Let's start with important gadgets. It's not yet entirely clear what do you know that if

[06:04:13] If you are dying of cancer, you basically get free recreational drugs from your doctor.

[06:04:19] Game of Thrones?

[06:04:22] If- if people are dying, they get, uh, rose- heart of the poppy?

[06:04:27] Rose brain of the poppy? What's it called? Something of the poppy?

[06:04:31] With milk of the poppy! Milk of the poppy!

[06:04:34] Oh my gosh, Game of Thrones, which I'm assuming, like,

[06:04:37] so people did it in olden days, I guess?

[06:04:40] They just gave the heroine to everyone who was dying.

[06:04:43] Or how long the effects last.

[06:04:45] There are no magic pills for happiness.

[06:04:47] Life is complicated.

[06:04:49] On some days it feels like you're in control of yourself and-

[06:04:52] I knew the craziest thing.

[06:04:54] When Jamie Lannister- sorry I keep on trying not to yapp-

[06:04:57] But when Jamie Lannister got his hand chopped off-

[06:05:01] Not a spoiler if you would have watched it by now.

[06:05:05] But when he got his hand chopped off right?

[06:05:07] Then, um, then, then the, like, the medical guy was, like, would you, like, muck over the

[06:05:11] puppy?

[06:05:12] And he was, like, no.

[06:05:13] And I was, like, oh my gosh, you're so smart.

[06:05:16] Jamie Lannister, you're actually so smart.

[06:05:18] How did you know, back in the olden days that you were in, that that's addictive and

[06:05:24] shows, shows what to have there?

[06:05:26] And on others, you feel like you're not crazy.

[06:05:28] And this is okay.

[06:05:30] Also, sometimes pursuing happiness can make you more happy if you've got too much

[06:05:35] pressuring yourself. Gratitude should also not be seen as a solution to depression or

[06:05:41] a substitute for professional help. It can only be a piece of the puzzle. It's not the

[06:05:45] solution to the puzzle itself. The easiest gratitude exercise with the most solid research

[06:05:52] behind- That's actually crazy. Some people can feel more- Oh, sorry! I mean, I'm sorry!

[06:05:56] Okay, hold on a sec. Can I tell you, like, literally the craziest thing ever after this

[06:05:59] video? Because I'm not gonna pause it one more time. I'm actually not gonna pause

[06:06:02] but I have to tell you something so important.

[06:06:04] It is gratitude, Germany.

[06:06:06] It means sitting down for a few minutes,

[06:06:08] I wish you would do that!

[06:06:10] and writing down 5 to 10 things you're grateful for.

[06:06:12] It might feel weird at first, so start simply.

[06:06:16] Can you feel grateful for a little thing,

[06:06:19] like how great coffee is, or that someone was kind to you?

[06:06:22] Can you appreciate something someone else did for you?

[06:06:26] Can you reflect on which things or people you would miss

[06:06:28] if they were gone and be grateful that they're in your life?

[06:06:31] life. We're all different, so you'll know what works for you. And that's it, Reggie.

[06:06:37] It feels almost insulting. I feel grateful for the pretty little emotes that you use to express

[06:06:45] yourself. Like things shouldn't be that simple. But in numerous studies, the participants reported

[06:06:51] more happiness and a higher general life satisfaction after doing this practice for

[06:06:56] for a few weeks. And even more, studies have found changes in brain activity, so what's

[06:07:01] the problem?

[06:07:02] No, that's not for me. That's not for me. That's literally what I'm talking about.

[06:07:03] How to see gratitude may be a real way to reprogram yourself.

[06:07:07] I take it back my back.

[06:07:08] This research shows that your emotions are not fixed.

[06:07:10] You're literally ruined.

[06:07:11] In the end, her experience life is a representation of what you believe about it. If you

[06:07:17] attack your core beliefs about yourself and your life, you can change your thoughts

[06:07:21] and feelings, which automatically changes your behavior. It's pretty mind-blowing that

[06:07:26] something as simple as self-reflection can hack the pathways in our brain to fight dissatisfaction.

[06:07:33] And if this is no reason to be more optimistic, what is? Being a human is hard, but it doesn't

[06:07:39] need to be as hard. And if you actively look, you might find that your life is much better

[06:07:46] than you thought.

[06:07:47] yeah bro but if that was me the dog would probably start crying and run away

[06:07:53] okay oh my gosh can I actually okay oh my gosh can I can I tell you the um not

[06:07:59] that I am I feel like I'm so good with dogs like I love dogs I feel like I'm

[06:08:03] so good with them but I feel like I feel like it's different it's the same

[06:08:06] with kids I feel like oh I remember when I was at school and I would always go

[06:08:11] to like the the the like young years and like read to them like it

[06:08:15] like it was like volunteer singing my Bobby right okay.

[06:08:19] And I was like oh my gosh,

[06:08:19] this is actually the funnest thing in the whole universe.

[06:08:21] Like I feel like I'm really good with like animals and kids,

[06:08:24] but I'm so bad with animals and kids

[06:08:27] when like the parent or the owner is there.

[06:08:30] Because I'm not thinking about the parent or the kid,

[06:08:33] I'm thinking about being judged

[06:08:35] and giving weird vibes by like the adult

[06:08:39] and then I don't know how to act

[06:08:40] because are you supposed to act

[06:08:42] in the way that you would act to the dog or the kid

[06:08:44] Or are you supposed to act the way you would act in front of the adult?

[06:08:46] You know what I mean?

[06:08:47] And then my brain gets conflicted and then I don't know what to do and I'm like the

[06:08:50] hell awkward.

[06:08:51] But, sorry, anyway, oh my gosh, sorry.

[06:08:54] Okay, before we go back on the debates, can I tell you the craziest thing ever in the

[06:08:59] whole of life?

[06:09:00] Oh my gosh.

[06:09:01] Thank you!

[06:09:02] Thank you for the battery, Lisa!

[06:09:03] Thank you!

[06:09:04] What?

[06:09:05] Thank you!

[06:09:07] Thank you for the rain!

[06:09:09] Thank you!

[06:09:13] Thank you!

[06:09:14] Welcome in Raiders!

[06:09:15] Hello, hello, hello!

[06:09:16] Thank you so much!

[06:09:18] Hi, hi, hi, hi!

[06:09:19] I've had a very good stream.

[06:09:21] Thank you, Jade.

[06:09:22] Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[06:09:23] Thank you!

[06:09:24] I appreciate it.

[06:09:25] Chad, remember to go for a Jade.

[06:09:28] Thank you.

[06:09:29] Welcome, welcome in.

[06:09:30] Oh, I'm one of us now.

[06:09:32] Okay, sorry Raiders.

[06:09:34] writers I'm about to tell you that you may die soon but trust me it's interesting

[06:09:38] okay so you guys know that I'm reading a science book not to flex but I'm

[06:09:50] reading a science book at the moment before I go to bed every night yeah I

[06:09:55] have none in this sorry I had a bit too much goof juice and in the science

[06:10:02] Okay, so I was reading the next chapter

[06:10:05] So crazy so crazy

[06:10:08] Did you know okay?

[06:10:10] So that's this whole moon. Okay called IGF. I think it's called something like that. Okay, which it's like a growth hormone

[06:10:18] Okay, so so so like when you're like a kid you have like a ton of it and you like grow and

[06:10:24] Then and then as like life progresses your body first

[06:10:28] focus is less on this IGF hormone and more on sustaining what you already have and you've

[06:10:35] already got.

[06:10:36] So all the people, they don't have very much growth hormone at all and it's hard for them

[06:10:39] to muscle.

[06:10:40] And then for young people, they have more IGF and then for kids, you have loads of IGF.

[06:10:43] It might not be IGF.

[06:10:44] It's IG something, right?

[06:10:46] Anyways, oh my gosh.

[06:10:48] So basically, IGF hormone is actually really bad and it hella increases your chance

[06:10:53] of buying.

[06:10:54] So, IGL, IGL, maybe, I don't know, okay, anyways, okay, did you know that the smaller

[06:11:04] the person, like, way more likely they are to live a long time?

[06:11:09] And apparently that's the case for like every animal.

[06:11:14] Not like a mouse is going to live less long than a human, but like a small mouse compared

[06:11:18] to a big mouse.

[06:11:19] And like a small human compared to a big human.

[06:11:22] Did you know that that's crazy?

[06:11:25] That's crazy!

[06:11:28] You are...

[06:11:30] Okay, okay, obviously it's only correlation.

[06:11:33] You know, there are many people that live to a hundred years old

[06:11:37] who are very tall, okay?

[06:11:39] But I have no idea.

[06:11:41] You are legit, like, pretty probable, more likely to live a long time

[06:11:47] if you're smaller.

[06:11:50] I don't know if that works for like like say you're like big-boned I wonder if

[06:11:57] like that has a fact you know or if it's just hype you know I don't ask me

[06:12:02] questions about it I'm just giving you the information and then that's it I'm

[06:12:06] just giving you all the information that I know right but I'm but was this

[06:12:13] I'll study a commission by Tyler one.

[06:12:17] I'm just saying, there are pros and cons

[06:12:19] of being short and tall, okay?

[06:12:21] It's cool.

[06:12:22] Oh my gosh!

[06:12:23] And the book was like, is this one of the reasons

[06:12:27] why women live longer than men?

[06:12:30] And I was like, oh my gosh.

[06:12:34] So truest.

[06:12:35] That's actually crazy.

[06:12:37] Anyways, I had to share that

[06:12:38] because I was like, oh my gosh, this book.

[06:12:40] like it's like a really heavy science book and like every single night I'm like why the

[06:12:45] hell am I reading this? But then I actually read it and every night that I read it I'm

[06:12:50] like oh my gosh this is actually so interesting. Anyway. Anyway. Thank you for listening to

[06:12:59] my TED Talk. Okay let's do a few more debates. I think I'm gonna have like probably like

[06:13:04] half an hour of a sugar rush and then I'm gonna crush even harder. But that goof

[06:13:08] juice. Oh my gosh. It's got me all the way back up. Okay. Okay. Let me see. Actually,

[06:13:19] let me crop it. Okay. Is that a triggering size? Is that okay? Should I go bigger or

[06:13:24] smaller. Okay, uh, no see.

[06:13:37] No see.

[06:13:40] Browsed up to gun.

[06:13:43] Comes out.

[06:13:47] New panda.

[06:13:48] Don't be so mute.

[06:13:49] Hey, who are you?

[06:13:52] Just kidding.

[06:13:53] Just kidding.

[06:13:53] How are you tonight?

[06:13:55] What if I just started crying?

[06:13:57] Oh, don't do that.

[06:13:59] You bother I'm good, thank you.

[06:14:01] Actually, I'm not good.

[06:14:03] I'm not good, but I'm like, how are you?

[06:14:05] How are you?

[06:14:07] I'm good.

[06:14:09] They'll sleepy.

[06:14:11] Yeah, same.

[06:14:13] Wait, hold on.

[06:14:15] Is that a good name being an accent?

[06:14:17] A?

[06:14:19] No, no, not at all.

[06:14:21] No, not at all.

[06:14:23] Um, as Hungarian?

[06:14:28] I'm pretty bad.

[06:14:29] I'm pretty bad.

[06:14:31] Let's go. OK.

[06:14:34] Um,

[06:14:36] OK, wait, hold on.

[06:14:37] Can you like say a sentence?

[06:14:40] Um, I like to go for walks in the park.

[06:14:45] Boston.

[06:14:47] Ooh, very close.

[06:14:53] You're good at that.

[06:14:55] Am I? I just said Canadian and then I'm very.

[06:15:00] You're playing ping pong with it.

[06:15:02] It's cool. You'll get there eventually.

[06:15:04] OK, oh, my gosh, what's the Boston? OK, Chicago.

[06:15:08] E, no.

[06:15:11] Oh, I'm like right next door.

[06:15:15] OK, OK, I'm thinking.

[06:15:16] So top. Right.

[06:15:20] OK. Um, what's top right?

[06:15:23] Pennsylvania. No, New York.

[06:15:28] No, getting cold in New Hampshire.

[06:15:31] Yeah. Oh, my gosh, really?

[06:15:33] Yeah, you got it out of all of the places in the entire world.

[06:15:39] Oh, yeah, all the places in Taiwan.

[06:15:40] That was like gas number.

[06:15:42] Let's five.

[06:15:44] Yeah, yeah, top five.

[06:15:48] Double you don't hear I thought, um, I only know one other person from New Hampshire and they kind of sound like Shane Dawson.

[06:15:57] You don't sound like Shane Dawson.

[06:16:03] So traditional, like New England, well, New Hampshire people, um, they kind of have a weird thing they do with their

[06:16:13] ours. But growing up, my dad was like, uh-uh. You're not going to talk like that.

[06:16:23] Oh my gosh, wait, I like Americans like snobby of like, oh my gosh, wait, hold on, something

[06:16:28] I've never even thought about. Can you have like posh and non posh accents in like each state?

[06:16:33] Or like, does everyone kind of sound the same? Oh, different parts of the country sound completely

[06:16:39] different. Yeah so like so like different parts on different right but like okay for example in

[06:16:44] London right some people are like still man I'm hanging out with the fam yeah okay and then other

[06:16:53] people are like okay hello I speak proper English okay and I live in Chelsea but they're like they're

[06:17:00] like they're like both in London do you know what I mean like yeah do places in New York

[06:17:06] Oh, like New York. The places in America have like, uh, like, posh and non-posh accents.

[06:17:15] Not really posh. It's just like...

[06:17:18] Like, say someone went to a private school in New Hampshire. Would they have the same accent?

[06:17:24] I was like, someone that didn't go to a private school.

[06:17:27] Um, pretty much, yeah. Pretty much.

[06:17:30] But like what more so what you're kind of looking at is like

[06:17:34] The stereotypical like California

[06:17:38] Girl would be like oh my gosh

[06:17:42] Like what that's so silly

[06:17:45] whereas like

[06:17:47] Here in New Hampshire or like Boston they would be like

[06:17:51] What do you mean?

[06:17:56] I don't know that it it's quite a bit different

[06:18:00] Just the way that people talk and they react to things and yeah

[06:18:12] Okay, so

[06:18:15] We can either go like you know actually deep with it or just keep it really light

[06:18:22] But so my topic is

[06:18:25] dating has

[06:18:27] hindered relationships and not helped under the premise of like other forms of

[06:18:38] building relationships like like people just growing up together and being

[06:18:49] friends and then one day they're like oh well I guess we should get married or

[06:18:54] or even like pre-arranged marriages and stuff like that.

[06:18:58] Wait, okay, so you think it's better

[06:19:00] to have pre-arranged marriages than dating?

[06:19:03] I would say that

[06:19:08] not necessarily better in terms of like

[06:19:13] somebody getting what they want,

[06:19:15] but in terms of having a relationship that lasts

[06:19:20] and lives the long-term stretch

[06:19:24] I think typically pre-arranged marriages last longer, which could probably be like...

[06:19:30] But don't you think that pre-arranged marriages last longer because it's like the culture of the people that do pre-arranged marriages?

[06:19:36] Yes. Yes, that definitely is a factor in it, yeah.

[06:19:41] But regardless, they last longer.

[06:19:47] No, they last longer because they have to last longer.

[06:19:51] If you just go into dating with the mindset that you're gonna try really, really, really, really, really hard not to get divorced, then it doesn't have to.

[06:20:03] But you are more likely to find someone compatible if you date.

[06:20:09] But so a lot of the reason that relationships last

[06:20:16] is because people are committed to each other.

[06:20:19] Like they say, whatever comes up, we're going to make this work.

[06:20:24] And they learn to work through the struggles

[06:20:27] and work through all the hardship

[06:20:31] and all the times of absolutely hating each other.

[06:20:35] and they just stay committed.

[06:20:40] Okay, but wouldn't you want someone

[06:20:42] to stay committed to you because they want to

[06:20:46] and not because they have to?

[06:20:50] Well, let me kind of clarify a little bit.

[06:20:54] So my topic is that dating has hindered relationships.

[06:20:59] Dating has hindered relationships.

[06:21:03] It's not necessarily to say dating is like bad juju, no one should do it.

[06:21:09] It's just dating itself kind of has changed the way people think about relationships.

[06:21:19] Um, so let's say that someone is like, um, 10 people deep, like they've dated 10 different people, right? Um, this kind of serial dating kind of builds the mentality of, if I don't like something I can leave,

[06:21:44] which is not at all conducive to a lifelong relationship.

[06:21:52] No, but okay, honestly, I kind of partly agree with you, but I'm arguing the other side, okay?

[06:21:57] I feel like the other side is no, but they're finding someone that they want to marry and

[06:22:02] spend their life with, right?

[06:22:03] Okay, so it's like, yeah, because they haven't committed to someone yet.

[06:22:06] And then when they commit to someone, they know that that person is the right person

[06:22:10] for them and and and then they're committed and they get married and have a family like

[06:22:15] but like but when we look at the trends of how relationships are going and how long relationships

[06:22:22] are lasting and even which there are other factors to this too but like people aren't

[06:22:30] having as many kids and I think part of that plays into kind of people feeling like

[06:22:36] like I think I chose the right person. I think I did.

[06:22:43] Really? I would not have even thought of it.

[06:22:47] I would not have even thought of it.

[06:22:48] The certainty is removed.

[06:22:50] Of the fact that people have less kids because they're not sure about the fact that they found the right person.

[06:22:57] I think there are other factors, but I think that is a factor.

[06:23:04] So you feel like because people date a lot of people, they then compare.

[06:23:09] I think you have a comparison.

[06:23:11] Oh my gosh, actually who compares?

[06:23:13] I feel like that's such a strange mindset to compare people.

[06:23:19] The way I always think about it is the human...

[06:23:21] I have a very strong belief in my brain that I just want to believe.

[06:23:25] I just want to believe this belief.

[06:23:27] I remember when I was a teenager, I think I was listening to a head talk or something

[06:23:32] And that was some smart person that was like people don't compare.

[06:23:36] I'm not even talking about relationships.

[06:23:37] I'm just talking about people in general in any kind of relationship.

[06:23:40] People do not compare.

[06:23:43] You to another person.

[06:23:46] That's not how the human brain works.

[06:23:48] Like every relationship or like interaction is unique.

[06:23:52] And I want to believe that so bad.

[06:23:54] And I go to bed at night believing that, like.

[06:23:58] Like, I don't know.

[06:23:58] I just like, like, I feel like that's such a nice way to think

[06:24:01] about life and it makes me feel much better at thinking that.

[06:24:06] So I think that is partly true.

[06:24:09] Like, I don't, I haven't heard the TED Talk, so I don't know exactly, but I would guess

[06:24:18] maybe that they're alluding to, like, you compare the actions of a person or the reactions

[06:24:29] of a person to the actions and reactions of another person.

[06:24:34] Like you're not comparing the person themself, you're comparing how they act.

[06:24:40] Does that make sense?

[06:24:41] I thought I was never compared to people before.

[06:24:47] Well, so like if I walk up to you and I give you a cookie and then someone else walks

[06:24:54] up to you and they slap you across the face, you're going to compare us.

[06:24:59] No, I'm just going to be like, that person is horrible and that person is nice.

[06:25:04] But it's still a comparison because you're differentiating like, this person is nice,

[06:25:12] this person was not nice.

[06:25:14] So it's a comparison.

[06:25:15] But I would have thought that if I had one individual experience and not the other.

[06:25:20] I feel like I've never been like, oh, I really want to be friends with that person, but this

[06:25:26] person has better stats.

[06:25:28] This person is, I don't know, more kind.

[06:25:33] And as a result, I'm going to choose to be friends with this person over this person.

[06:25:36] You know what I mean?

[06:25:37] Who thinks like that?

[06:25:38] Who goes around comparing people?

[06:25:40] I feel like I've never had the thought of, oh, I want to be friends with that person,

[06:25:43] or oh, I like this person because they have better stats.

[06:25:46] Everything's just based on feeling, no?

[06:25:49] Yeah, well, I don't think that it's a conscious thing like I don't think anybody goes around and

[06:25:56] You know as mentally like

[06:25:59] Analyzing everyone that they meet and being like oh, yeah, this person's way better than this other person

[06:26:06] It's just a conscious thing kind of like or subconscious thing

[06:26:10] Like your brain just kind of makes a little sticky note and it's like this person. They're cool

[06:26:19] No, but it's individual. I don't know. I had from a smart person once a plethora of time, okay?

[06:26:24] That you don't... that human brains don't compare your relationship with one person

[06:26:29] versus your relationship with another person. And I believe that in my head. I strongly believe that.

[06:26:36] It's a nice way to think about life and a smart person said that. But I feel like in terms

[06:26:46] of dating and like and and okay what if you okay again I kind of believe you I

[06:26:54] kind of agree with your point but I'm arguing the opposite side so so with

[06:26:58] dating okay what if you're like I really like these kind of people okay and

[06:27:04] then you get into a relationship with someone like that okay or like you

[06:27:09] date I don't know I feel like Americans have a different definition of date but

[06:27:12] that you've gone a few dates with someone like that

[06:27:14] and you're like, actually, no.

[06:27:19] You know what?

[06:27:20] You realize that you don't actually like that, you know?

[06:27:22] Like for example, I don't know.

[06:27:23] Okay, say this, say this, say this.

[06:27:25] You're just a guy like Pop in the wild, okay?

[06:27:29] And a guy comes up to you, okay?

[06:27:33] And he's like, well, I don't know what this accent is.

[06:27:38] Okay, I'm just doing a accent, okay?

[06:27:42] just go for it, go for it.

[06:27:43] Well, you are the most beautiful girl

[06:27:47] that I've ever seen in my whole life.

[06:27:50] Oh my goodness, you are the most beautiful girl

[06:27:52] I've ever seen in my whole life.

[06:27:53] Please, may I take you on a date, okay?

[06:27:58] If you've never spoken to a male before in the wild, okay?

[06:28:02] As a female, then you're probably gonna be like,

[06:28:04] oh my gosh, wait, that's so nice, people are cute.

[06:28:07] Like, he's being so nice to me, okay?

[06:28:08] And then you might go on a few dates with him

[06:28:10] and you're like, wait,

[06:28:11] he literally does that to everyone.

[06:28:13] Yeah.

[06:28:14] And then you might not like people with that, OK?

[06:28:16] But you have to experience life to realize

[06:28:19] that some people are like that.

[06:28:22] So I feel like, I feel like, what are you going to do?

[06:28:28] Like him?

[06:28:30] And then realize that he does that to everyone.

[06:28:32] And then what?

[06:28:33] Marry him because it's an arranged marriage

[06:28:35] or you have to be with a fast person that you

[06:28:37] laid eyes on.

[06:28:39] Like no.

[06:28:41] Like, you need to see what you like and don't like.

[06:28:45] So in that scenario, I assume you mean like you just met the guy.

[06:28:51] And this is going with like dating mentality of,

[06:28:56] oh, I think you're cute.

[06:28:58] Let's go on a date.

[06:29:00] Yeah.

[06:29:00] Right?

[06:29:01] OK.

[06:29:02] So I'm arguing like that whole system of like,

[06:29:09] And again, I'm not saying that it's 100% like that, okay?

[06:29:14] So the little side note there.

[06:29:20] It's just if you, and this is another issue,

[06:29:27] I'm getting off in sidetracks.

[06:29:30] But like comparing that where like you walk up

[06:29:35] to random person or random person walks up to you

[06:29:38] and just wants to take you out somewhere versus someone that you've known for many years,

[06:29:48] you get along with them, and then they ask you to go do something with intention of going

[06:29:56] into more of a serious relationship.

[06:30:03] It has a totally different feel.

[06:30:07] You know what I mean?

[06:30:08] Yeah.

[06:30:09] I agree.

[06:30:10] In an ideal world, obviously you're friends with them first and then you know a lot about

[06:30:16] that person.

[06:30:17] But I feel like the reality of the world is like a lot of people don't have opposite

[06:30:21] gender friends.

[06:30:22] And it's like, yeah, that would be cool, but like in reality, like it doesn't always

[06:30:30] happen.

[06:30:31] Yeah.

[06:30:32] That's partly another issue that we've got going on, at least in America.

[06:30:37] I don't know how it is where you're at, but there's a lot of seclusion, just like people

[06:30:50] don't really talk to each other.

[06:30:52] Bro, we want to talk to each other at America?

[06:30:55] Holy moly, if you come to England, honestly, or Australia actually, trust me, it's

[06:31:01] like 50,000 times the last, oh my gosh, the only thing I've ever been talking about in

[06:31:04] my entire life is America.

[06:31:05] I'm like, oh my gosh, I love America so much.

[06:31:08] People actually like speak what it's like, oh my gosh, it's crazy.

[06:31:11] Um, no, it's like, it's like a thousand years of land times more.

[06:31:15] Um, but, um, yeah, I, yeah, I, I feel like, I feel like we, we are, we are more casual.

[06:31:23] We are more casual like, you know, if we're just walking by you on the street

[06:31:27] or whatever, we'll be like, Hey, but, um,

[06:31:30] Okay, but okay, so this is another thing right, okay?

[06:31:33] So back in the day right arguing the opposite of the point that I said earlier back in the day

[06:31:39] Okay, when when that were more like oh you would like grow up and then marry like one of the three people that you compatible with, okay?

[06:31:46] You were probably compatible with pretty much everyone that was like in your age right well everyone

[06:31:50] But like a lot of people that were like in your age range and stuff like that

[06:31:53] Because you all grew up and had similar views on the world and life experiences, right?

[06:31:58] nowadays

[06:31:59] People come from a different background and like a gazillion different like ways of life because you know everyone's together

[06:32:05] And so you might be compatible with less people

[06:32:08] so

[06:32:09] Like that you're surrounded with

[06:32:11] so

[06:32:13] You need to meet more people to be able to find the right person

[06:32:17] but do you think

[06:32:20] That we've just adjusted our perspective on relationships so that it is more about who am I compatible with

[06:32:28] versus who could I live my life alongside?

[06:32:36] So like we're looking for like-

[06:32:37] Is that the same thing?

[06:32:38] No, because like compatibility nowadays is very much like,

[06:32:45] I'm looking for someone that makes me happy

[06:32:48] and that, you know, we just get along really well

[06:32:51] and whatever, you're not looking necessarily like,

[06:32:56] Again, I'm sorry, not like everyone else.

[06:33:00] Looking for a man in finance.

[06:33:02] Six-five. Blue eyes.

[06:33:04] Okay, there you go.

[06:33:06] That was good.

[06:33:08] For all the boomers in chat, just to confirm, I'm not looking for a man in finance who has six-five and has blue eyes.

[06:33:14] That was a meme, okay?

[06:33:16] Just for anyone that didn't understand the reference, okay?

[06:33:19] Calm down, everybody.

[06:33:21] It's not to rage about anyone.

[06:33:23] Um, it was a meme, it was a meme, but like, yeah, what's wrong with looking for someone

[06:33:30] that makes you happy, though?

[06:33:32] Um, well, I'm not saying that that's a bad thing.

[06:33:36] What I'm saying is that, um, we should also focus a lot on, um, like, characteristics

[06:33:48] that would just make a relationship last, you know, the long haul, so...

[06:33:57] But surely having someone that makes you happy is probably the number one determiner of if

[06:34:05] it's going to last, no?

[06:34:08] Not really, because someone can make you really happy, like in spurts, like we see

[06:34:15] this in movies a lot where someone makes their partner really happy in spurts, but like they're

[06:34:24] not reliable or they they make the person do all the hard work or whatever. Randomized.

[06:34:33] What's it called? Randomized reward system. Don't do it. Yeah. But that's how manipulative

[06:34:40] people sometimes make people like them they give them randomized rewards okay so

[06:34:46] it's like sometimes they'll do something and they'll be like really nice and

[06:34:49] then sometimes they'll do something and they like won't have right and like at

[06:34:52] random times they'll be really nice and it will like make people get more

[06:34:56] addicted to you but don't do that because it's messed up no no that's

[06:35:01] that's a major no no. But like, I did not study the manipulation manual, okay. I just

[06:35:13] watched a lot of videos on how to make a guy like you. Okay, so I know these things, but

[06:35:19] I would never use these things. I just know these. I mean, none of them didn't work,

[06:35:24] but I just like happened to know them hypothetically and know that they're bad. Okay, so don't

[06:35:29] do that, however, yeah, there are obviously people in the world that do

[06:35:33] do that. But I feel like I find it hard to argue because I kind of agree with

[06:35:37] your point. But we can leave it up to a debate, okay, so because I think a lot

[06:35:43] of people disagree with both of us. So one, if dating hinders relationships,

[06:35:48] because like the more people you date, like the more you like compare people

[06:35:53] to other people. Two, if you think it helps and like dating is a good thing

[06:35:58] I don't need to happen in your life in order to find the right person.

[06:36:01] People are cute.

[06:36:02] Um...

[06:36:03] Okay!

[06:36:04] Wow!

[06:36:05] I wasn't actually expecting that.

[06:36:10] Actually, it's pretty equal.

[06:36:12] Um...

[06:36:13] Uh...

[06:36:14] Okay.

[06:36:15] Wait, that's like so 50-50.

[06:36:17] Um...

[06:36:18] Okay.

[06:36:19] Okay.

[06:36:20] Yeah.

[06:36:21] No.

[06:36:22] When I'm talking about day three, I'm talking about like wholesome day thing.

[06:36:26] Oh, wait!

[06:36:27] They disagree with us.

[06:36:28] I'm talking about wholesome going on dates and talking to people. I'm not talking, you know what I mean

[06:36:35] Anyways, um, yeah, well, uh, me thank you so much for coming on ww energy this late it

[06:36:42] It's actually not later tool feet wait hold on. It's uh wait. Oh my gosh. Let me do the month. It's it's

[06:36:47] 9 p.m. 9 p.m.

[06:36:49] Hop on time

[06:36:51] close

[06:36:53] Do you want another shot?

[06:36:54] You want me to just tell you I thought I thought so I know New York is four hours different. So I

[06:37:02] Isn't New Hampshire like under New York?

[06:37:05] Yes

[06:37:07] Okay, that's saying a so okay, okay. Yeah, that was

[06:37:13] Sacking us. Yeah, it is it totally I knew it

[06:37:19] Thank you for coming on

[06:37:21] coming on at a WWE debate.

[06:37:23] Well, thank you for having me, Lydia.

[06:37:26] It was a lot of fun and, yeah, I feel like we did a pretty good job taking something that

[06:37:33] could be serious and making it, you know, pretty lighthearted.

[06:37:36] No, I didn't find it lighthearted.

[06:37:38] I found it very serious.

[06:37:40] I found it very serious, okay.

[06:37:43] You know what?

[06:37:44] You know what, Mute?

[06:37:45] Okay.

[06:37:46] This is like, you know what?

[06:37:47] We butterfly, momented, someone's thought process,

[06:37:53] which changed when they had tea time,

[06:37:56] which changed when they woke up the next day,

[06:37:58] which as a result changed the course of their entire life

[06:38:01] because they missed the train

[06:38:03] and then they got married to a different person

[06:38:05] and then they had different variations of that offspring

[06:38:10] and then one of that offspring

[06:38:11] went on to become the prime minister.

[06:38:13] So actually this was a very important debate.

[06:38:17] I'm just saying, we could have been like hella influential just then, okay?

[06:38:29] Everything serious.

[06:38:31] Everything.

[06:38:32] What if they got hit by a train and said, how'd you get hit by a train?

[06:38:40] No one's going to do that, okay?

[06:38:42] very smart individuals and we all stay well behind the line. Right chat? When a scary

[06:38:50] train pulls up, okay, we go, whoop, I'm not gonna put one foot in front of the yellow

[06:38:54] line because I might get swapped in. But never. Okay, I'm sorry, oh my gosh, I feel

[06:39:03] I don't like the goof juice that's really hitting now.

[06:39:05] Hmm.

[06:39:07] North Sea.

[06:39:09] Ruben! Hello Ruben.

[06:39:11] Hello.

[06:39:13] Hello, how are you doing?

[06:39:15] I'm doing great, how are you?

[06:39:17] I'm doing very good, thank you.

[06:39:19] So, what would you like to debate about today?

[06:39:23] So, I work as a chef.

[06:39:25] And I was going to debate about diets

[06:39:29] because I personally don't believe in diet.

[06:39:32] And I'm going to tell you why.

[06:39:35] Okay.

[06:39:36] So, you know how people start a diet and they plan out what they're going to eat and they

[06:39:41] plan out when they're going to eat it and how much of it they're going to eat?

[06:39:45] Yeah.

[06:39:46] And how 99% of the time people fall back into their old habits after they're home.

[06:39:51] No!

[06:39:52] What do you mean 99% of the time?

[06:39:54] That's interesting.

[06:39:55] Some people stick with it.

[06:39:56] They're not.

[06:39:57] So, should I leave this a gray?

[06:39:58] That is not true.

[06:39:59] No!

[06:40:00] Okay.

[06:40:01] If you go into a diet thinking that you're going to ruin it eventually, then you're going

[06:40:08] to ruin it.

[06:40:09] Yeah, but I'm like, why would you go on a diet that's restricting you from eating certain

[06:40:13] things where you can just eat balanced throughout your life and not having to worry about

[06:40:19] stupid things?

[06:40:20] Well, yeah, you should go into a diet being like, I can do this diet for the rest of

[06:40:24] my life.

[06:40:26] That doesn't mean that you're going to fail.

[06:40:30] strict diets, you will most likely eventually go back to your old habits. Like if you look

[06:40:36] statistically, how many people that start in January and go to the gym and go eat healthy

[06:40:41] are still eating the same thing?

[06:40:43] Yeah, because I feel like some people do unrealistic things that they know that they can't keep

[06:40:48] to. I feel like if you get in a routine that you can stick to, then you stick to the routine.

[06:40:54] So I would disagree.

[06:40:55] Do you need a diet in that routine though? Or do you just need to watch what you're putting in your mouth?

[06:41:02] Yeah, but what does diet mean? Like everyone has a diet.

[06:41:05] A diet means like what I mean with a diet is deleting certain foods from your daily life to get to a certain result.

[06:41:16] Yeah!

[06:41:17] As in gaining more muscle or losing weight.

[06:41:20] I don't think you fail. Like say for example you're like, oh I have to eat breadsticks. I'm gonna get hot breadsticks out.

[06:41:25] You can cut breadsticks out bro. Like don't think you're gonna fail like if you want to cut breadsticks out

[06:41:30] You can do that and for the first like two weeks

[06:41:32] You're probably gonna crave breadsticks and then the cravings can go away and you're gonna forget that you have a great breadsticks

[06:41:39] Like no, I so certainly disagree. I feel like guys is so achievable like I feel like I've done every single like form of like

[06:41:48] Stuff like that because I did modeling for like not very long was really a la la la

[06:41:52] But I feel like in terms of eating I tried every single thing ever and right now like I literally don't care

[06:41:58] I do eat what I want to eat but but okay

[06:42:01] This is how I like view the more sugar you have the more sugar you want the more salt you have the more salt you want like yeah

[06:42:08] You crave it like if you want to cut something out you can if you want a calorie restrict

[06:42:13] Calorie is so friggin hard and if you're hungry all the time you're probably gonna bounce back right?

[06:42:19] Yeah, and that's what I mean with like restricting yourself to an extent where you can eat a certain amount of food.

[06:42:26] But, you can go on a diet for example, like I'm gonna cut out refined sugar for example, okay?

[06:42:33] Not saying that I do this, but I've done this a lot of times in my life, okay?

[06:42:36] And I'm not saying that I've relapsed.

[06:42:40] No, no, no, I got what you mean.

[06:42:42] I'm not trying to go for, I could have a more over-thick, but I choose to not.

[06:42:49] Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, no, hey, but I feel like I do know a little

[06:42:56] bit about eating stuff, right, okay?

[06:42:58] Yeah.

[06:42:59] Just leave me, okay?

[06:43:01] And yeah, calorie restriction, if you're hungry all the time, you're probably going

[06:43:07] to bounce back and it's really friggin' hard.

[06:43:09] Yeah.

[06:43:10] and sugar intake are so just based on how addicted you are and if you cut out

[06:43:18] like refined sugar or you cut out okay be like I'm gonna have no yummy mummy

[06:43:23] pudding anymore. So that's Bob okay. Then you're gonna you're gonna cut out yummy

[06:43:29] mummy pudding and you're gonna feel the withdrawal of you're not having yummy

[06:43:33] mummy pudding after dinner okay. It's been really hard for the first week and

[06:43:38] And then unless you fast, bro, if you fast and then you come back, like, okay, so you

[06:43:42] fast for two days, right?

[06:43:44] Yeah.

[06:43:45] Just obviously if you're a safe weight to start with, but say you fast for two days

[06:43:49] and then you come back, honestly, you can probably cut out putting it's not even

[06:43:52] that hard, but if you don't want to fast, okay, then it'll probably take like

[06:43:55] two weeks to get over with girls and then you won't want the yummy won't

[06:43:59] be fitting and then life is easy from then on.

[06:44:02] And then if you just don't bring it back, then you won't crave it again.

[06:44:06] Yeah, that's right.

[06:44:07] but like you're talking about like one thing,

[06:44:10] but if it's like you're restricting yourself to,

[06:44:12] for an example, those people that you see in the gym,

[06:44:15] those bodybuilders that eat chicken, rice,

[06:44:19] and all that stuff for a long periods of time

[06:44:21] in order to bulk, right?

[06:44:23] They're only doing that with the intention of bulking.

[06:44:26] And after that, they go back into their old habit

[06:44:29] and I'm like, why not choose something

[06:44:31] that works throughout your life?

[06:44:34] So you don't have to bulk to bulk to bulk.

[06:44:35] cutting and both he and cutting. Yeah, but like for normal people, I think what works

[06:44:42] best is if you balance your diet, and if you're not cutting out things like you can always

[06:44:47] eat those crisps, you can always eat the cookies. I just agree. I disagree with yourself.

[06:44:52] No, no, because okay, like, yeah, eat what you want to eat, right? Okay. But nor that

[06:44:58] like, if you if you, okay, say you have crisps, right? Every day for a week.

[06:45:05] Then it will be really hard to give up crisps, right?

[06:45:09] Like either be chill with eating them every day,

[06:45:13] but then if you eat them like sometimes,

[06:45:15] then you'll just start craving them

[06:45:15] and want them every day.

[06:45:17] Yeah, but that's why it's called a snack.

[06:45:20] You're not supposed to eat them every day,

[06:45:21] you're supposed to have something to look forward to.

[06:45:23] No, no, no, no, but you can look forward to it every day.

[06:45:26] It's just very hard to like vary it a ton.

[06:45:29] But like of course you can stick to a diet.

[06:45:31] It's just really hard to stick to calorie deficit diets.

[06:45:35] Like if you go to the new year and you're like, I'm gonna stop having

[06:45:39] like so my yummy, want me pudding, right?

[06:45:42] Okay, I'm gonna stop having, like for example, okay, if you go to the new year

[06:45:47] and you're like, I'm gonna cook every day, literally me.

[06:45:51] To be fair with me cooking, okay, I literally just put my meat in the

[06:45:55] oven and take it out.

[06:45:56] Surely, I can stick to that, okay?

[06:45:59] But if you're like, I'm gonna spend an hour cooking every day and then life

[06:46:03] catches up to you, then yeah, you might fail, because, Bre, you just minus an hour on a day

[06:46:08] that you might not have.

[06:46:09] I don't like to use the word fail. I just like to use the word.

[06:46:13] Succeed.

[06:46:14] In a better way. You've tried your best.

[06:46:19] You might not succeed, are you saying?

[06:46:21] You might not succeed. Sailing sounds like people are failing in life and they've tried,

[06:46:28] which is already good enough, but sometimes trying just doesn't work.

[06:46:33] And I feel like some people...

[06:46:34] Shooters shoot, but they might miss.

[06:46:36] Exactly.

[06:46:37] You might shoot, but you might...

[06:46:38] Exactly.

[06:46:39] Yeah.

[06:46:40] So you're like...

[06:46:41] You could miss a million times in your life, but I feel like with dieting, at least from

[06:46:44] personal experience, and I've tried keto, I've tried carnivore diet, I've tried like

[06:46:50] the weirdest things that the internet told me to try.

[06:46:54] And I just found out that none of those things really work throughout my life.

[06:46:59] I feel like what works for me is to eat what I feel like I need.

[06:47:05] You don't need to eat a bag of chips.

[06:47:08] You don't need to eat.

[06:47:09] OK, but in terms of eating, you would just like eat more like you would

[06:47:12] just crave sugar and then you just eat more and more sugar, which I know again.

[06:47:17] Like if you want to do that, you go girl.

[06:47:19] OK, you eat that entire box of Ferrero Roches and then you go to the shops

[06:47:23] and then you get another box of Ferrero Roches because it's sweet.

[06:47:26] OK.

[06:47:27] But if you, for example, do want to start eating healthy, I think it's so achievable and I don't

[06:47:39] think you should think that most people don't succeed because a lot of people do succeed.

[06:47:44] The only thing that is really hard to succeed on is calorie deficits.

[06:47:47] Yeah, because there's a lot of people on the internet that say this is the diet you

[06:47:52] should stick to, this is what you should do to lose weight, this is what they did

[06:47:55] From those weird carnivore diet people till the people that say you should work out every day and no excuses and whatever

[06:48:03] But I feel like I'm working out every day. Okay, I do 45 burpees

[06:48:08] What's my buddies everything morning? And I could say if you do it every day

[06:48:12] Oh my gosh, it's so much easier than like four days a week

[06:48:14] Okay, because if it's more than each then you're like then you're like, oh like I can skip today

[06:48:18] Cuz I can go tomorrow and oh I can skip today cuz I can do tomorrow

[06:48:21] If you just do it like bing bang boom first thing in the morning, okay 45

[06:48:25] Bappies is a flex because you know what I do every single day, okay?

[06:48:29] And yeah, okay, and you know fine, okay instead of 45 Bappies you can do 200

[06:48:38] Pashups 200 push ups, yeah that sounds very achievable

[06:48:42] Yeah, but like if you do it every day in my personal opinion it's so much easier

[06:48:48] Because it's like less work but like always so then you like never miss it

[06:48:53] Yeah, that's true

[06:48:54] I mean like moving your body every day is something that everyone should do but like you know

[06:48:58] People that say like you should do this and this I've worked out every single day

[06:49:01] Not even find any excuses during holidays or during Christmas or whatever and I'm like I understand where they're coming from

[06:49:09] Hey, you know what I did first thing in the morning on Christmas Day

[06:49:12] You do your very first birthday

[06:49:13] I ranked up that funk music, okay?

[06:49:16] Okay, we'll be like, oh my gosh, no, that's like a funk song that's like, okay, and then

[06:49:30] I was like during my 45 burpees on Christmas Day.

[06:49:33] Yep.

[06:49:34] Wow.

[06:49:35] Well, that's awesome.

[06:49:37] Yeah.

[06:49:38] Doing your Christmas burpees and then I did my burpees for the day and now I can

[06:49:45] Now I can have a massive beef wellington, yep.

[06:49:50] But yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

[06:49:54] I just certainly disagree with saying that people might not succeed, because I feel like they can.

[06:50:00] Yeah, I feel like they can, but at the same time, just if you look statistically,

[06:50:05] how many people that started diet, let's say first thing in the year,

[06:50:09] will actually stick to that diet and therefore reach their goals

[06:50:14] By December, you know, they might reach their goals by June, but then fall back to their old whatever they were in December

[06:50:27] Like look it's looking at you right, okay, you're not a statistic

[06:50:32] You're your own person and you can break the cycle and you're not just the number and you know what that number isn't zero

[06:50:39] Okay, so you

[06:50:41] be that four percent four percent yeah you know what I had I had a new year's

[06:50:47] resolution okay to cut out chocolate and I didn't eat chocolate for you I had a

[06:50:52] new year's resolution to not swear and pretty much did that for like four years

[06:50:59] pretty much for four years yeah yeah yeah yeah a single swear word for four

[06:51:05] years. Well I might have slipped up once or twice. But on the haul. I had a couple of accidents.

[06:51:15] I got really angry at chat. But Reuben thank you for coming on, I appreciate it. Would you

[06:51:25] like to do a vote? A vote? Yeah. So chat, one, if you think that diets aren't real and

[06:51:34] that you shouldn't try and diet because it's unrealistic to stick to it, two, if you think

[06:51:40] that diets can be real, you just need to make the diet realistic and easy to stick to.

[06:51:47] Like yeah, your dieting is bad.

[06:51:49] If your dieting at the end had to lose weight for your bikini summer board in a month, okay,

[06:51:57] and you're like, I'm gonna get the bikini board, then yeah, you're probably gonna

[06:52:01] to fail especially when bikini blood season is over you know what I mean hot girl summer

[06:52:07] yeah right okay and then when you trained for hot girl summer ruben okay yeah I'm gonna

[06:52:13] train for hot girl summer then you might fall back on it but if you just have a routine

[06:52:19] all throughout the year that you can stick to all throughout the year then the next hot

[06:52:24] girl summer you're probably gonna be better yeah I think that that's where we're coming

[06:52:28] back to that almost like the balanced lifestyle I feel like that's what you're

[06:52:33] leaning towards as well like a strict diet such as a bikini bottom diet or

[06:52:37] whatever you're not gonna stick to that for a wide girl when oh my gosh actually

[06:52:41] we are actually we are and you're gonna crave WU whole box of rare rush a wide

[06:52:48] girl winter I think that's the main thing

[06:52:52] I agree. Well, Ruben, thank you very much for coming on.

[06:52:55] Oh, thank you.

[06:52:56] Oh, thank you, Rui. Thank you, Ruben.

[06:52:58] Yes, thank you, but I...

[06:53:00] Chat, we just talked to a pro-chef.

[06:53:01] Oh, my gosh. I should have, like...

[06:53:03] No, should I have asked for advice?

[06:53:06] Should I have asked for advice from a pro-chef?

[06:53:09] Or would that have been ego loss?

[06:53:17] Hmm.

[06:53:18] I should have lopped as a sous chef.

[06:53:23] So today I looked up, I asked chat GBT how to put meat in the oven.

[06:53:33] Because you know I'm doing it every day now.

[06:53:36] It's like part of my routine.

[06:53:39] So I just wanted to make sure I got it right.

[06:53:41] Okay, so I got a new baking tray.

[06:53:43] Okay, I got some tin foil.

[06:53:45] Okay.

[06:53:46] Every single day, I'm gonna go to the grocery store, okay?

[06:53:49] I'm gonna pick up 300 grams of meat and two salads, okay?

[06:53:53] Honestly, I'm not even feeling this one.

[06:53:57] Yeah, I don't mess with this one.

[06:53:58] Okay, I'm gonna pick up a salad, okay, and some meat, okay?

[06:54:01] And then I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna put,

[06:54:05] hold on, no, I'm gonna do that for the next day, okay?

[06:54:07] And then I'm gonna put my meat in the oven

[06:54:10] and I'm not gonna mess around

[06:54:12] with like heating up the oven,

[06:54:13] literally not even messing around with that.

[06:54:15] I'll just I'll just put it in turn on the oven put it in and then put it in for like five extra minutes

[06:54:19] Do you think that's okay?

[06:54:22] So if the oven if you look up slow cooker recipes, they are really easy to use for roast and veggies

[06:54:29] Slow cook recipes. No, I'm fine. I don't need to like keep my vegetables, right?

[06:54:34] Like okay, so instead of heating the oven for 10 minutes and then putting the food in

[06:54:39] Then I just put the food in for an extra five minutes

[06:54:42] And then I got my oven eats. I got my oven eats. Okay. Oh my gosh, I feel like I'm

[06:54:54] waking dry out the food. I feel like I'm going delusional. I did. Oh my gosh. I feel

[06:55:02] like I feel like, you know, when you're like caffeine, I'm just vibing so hard. You know,

[06:55:06] You're like, hello, caffeine energy.

[06:55:08] I'm like, hello, caffeine energy, but sorry.

[06:55:10] Anyways, Ocean!

[06:55:11] Hello, Ocean!

[06:55:13] Hello, how are you, Lydia?

[06:55:14] I'm amazing.

[06:55:15] How are you?

[06:55:17] Pretty good.

[06:55:18] I almost, I actually left for a little bit,

[06:55:20] because I thought you were going to take one more call

[06:55:22] like two hours ago.

[06:55:23] And then I came back.

[06:55:24] I'm like, oh my goodness.

[06:55:25] I almost missed it.

[06:55:26] So I'm so glad to be here.

[06:55:27] Well, always, bae, then.

[06:55:29] No, you know what?

[06:55:30] I do.

[06:55:30] Sometimes I say that I'm ending just to see who

[06:55:32] the real ones are.

[06:55:34] Oh, okay. So that was a test. Well, I hope I passed.

[06:55:37] I do that a lot on stream. I start playing the

[06:55:40] Badge music and say goodnight, but then I just sit there yapping for like half an

[06:55:44] hour on the Badge music.

[06:55:45] I see.

[06:55:46] Yeah.

[06:55:47] Um, well, um, obviously, what have you come on to debate about today?

[06:55:53] Well, this is a rather controversial topic, but I think it will be interesting for

[06:55:57] your viewers. I believe that the spread of Christianity helps civilize the world.

[06:56:02] Okay, and why do you think that?

[06:56:07] Well, if you look at Christianity's principles, the principles of just punishments, of forgiveness,

[06:56:15] equality under the law.

[06:56:17] Yes, Christianity actually did preach equality under the law, for most people, like with

[06:56:22] praises in the gospel.

[06:56:24] It was like there was neither Jew nor Greek nor slave, nor master, things like that.

[06:56:29] I believe that Christianity helps bring equal rights and dignity to the world.

[06:56:34] A lot of the world was very, very savage for a lot of its history.

[06:56:39] Almost all cultures, except for Christian cultures, practiced some level of human sacrifice.

[06:56:45] And a lot of these barbaric practices were ended when Christianity was spread through the lands.

[06:56:54] Wait, so other religions practice human sacrifice?

[06:56:59] Yes, almost all of them.

[06:57:08] Like a good example of this could be the Inca who were known for actually sacrificing the

[06:57:13] children of the Incan elites.

[06:57:16] The Aztec Empire was known for literally ripping people's hearts out of their chests

[06:57:20] and burning them on altars.

[06:57:26] Wasn't Jesus sacrificed?

[06:57:29] He was a martyr. He voluntarily gave himself over. He is the only sacrifice needed.

[06:57:35] But that does count as human sacrifice.

[06:57:38] Right. Right. I know. He is considered the only form of human. Regular Christians are

[06:57:44] not accepted.

[06:57:45] So you can't say that other religions have human sacrifice and not Christianity. Like...

[06:57:52] Well on a regular basis though. It wasn't like there was one sacrifice to end them

[06:57:57] all. Okay, but in day-to-day life, you know, other religions aren't going around

[06:58:06] sacrificing people. Right, because a lot of

[06:58:11] Christianity's principles are spread into secular laws and secular law is

[06:58:16] verbatim. But there are still cultures that still do this. They're

[06:58:22] oftentimes very primitive cultures, but that like the people of the, what's that

[06:58:27] one island that like you're almost guaranteed to die if you go to it north

[06:58:31] center the island yeah yeah the bridge a triangle isn't an island okay yeah but

[06:58:42] don't you think that maybe other people also want to spread that religion and

[06:58:49] think the same things and yeah but they're wrong okay I'm not being there

[06:58:55] I'm not saying that their religion is actually wrong,

[06:58:58] but some of the practices that come out of it,

[06:59:00] like for instance, in Norse mythology,

[06:59:05] I mean, it was believed that it was justified

[06:59:07] when you conquered a land to take somebody

[06:59:10] who you conquered and cut open their stomach

[06:59:13] and force them to have their intestines wrap around a tree.

[06:59:18] I don't know about you, but that doesn't exactly,

[06:59:19] it's not like, that doesn't sound like

[06:59:21] just punishment to anybody at all,

[06:59:24] especially if it's just for concrete land.

[06:59:28] Okay.

[06:59:29] Yeah.

[06:59:30] Yeah.

[06:59:31] Right.

[06:59:32] Okay.

[06:59:33] And in certain Indian cultures, there used to be this practice called, what is it called,

[06:59:39] it has a weird name.

[06:59:42] Adam and Eve.

[06:59:43] You know, I feel like there's lots of not very nice things that happen to people in

[06:59:48] Christianity, like in other religions as well, though.

[06:59:51] Like you can't be like, oh Christianity doesn't have human sacrifice and doesn't have any bad things happen to people but all other religions do.

[06:59:58] Like you know, giving childbirth to Eve isn't very nice.

[07:00:03] Like it's quite painful back in the day, you know, like before there was painkillers.

[07:00:09] I don't appreciate being given childbirth. Well obviously I do appreciate giving childbirth.

[07:00:14] Like I would like to have children.

[07:00:16] Do you appreciate childbirth there in modern day?

[07:00:19] meaningful, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Some of that is a limitation on, if you

[07:00:24] look at what a lot of the Bible talks about, there are plenty of gruesome scenes in the

[07:00:28] Bible, but you have to differentiate between what's known as proscriptive versus descriptive.

[07:00:35] Descriptive is what happens. Proscriptive is what the Bible is trying to tell you

[07:00:39] should be. So, you know, like no one would read about King Herod slaughtering the

[07:00:46] first born in order to get rid of, in order to make sure that the heir to the Jews didn't

[07:00:53] come around and say, yeah, we should do what he did. No, that was descriptive. That was

[07:00:57] descriptive of what he did. And it was considered evil.

[07:01:00] As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatulahi wa rahmatulahi wa rahmatulahi.

[07:01:01] Pro-scriptive would be like Jesus saying, like after a woman was caught for adultery

[07:01:09] and was supposed to be stoned to death. Now who has not sinned may cast the first

[07:01:13] stone. Okay. And they all backed off. Does that make sense? Yes, but lots of religions,

[07:01:21] you know, try to get people to be better people. I just I feel like I feel like, do you, okay,

[07:01:33] do you feel like, um, because, because, you know, I'm assuming you were raised, Christian.

[07:01:40] Yes, I'm agnostic now, but I still believe I've been a lot of the principles because I

[07:01:45] think they make for a better world.

[07:01:47] Okay.

[07:01:48] So, as you were raised, Christian, you believe that spreading Christianity improves the world,

[07:01:57] right?

[07:01:58] Yes.

[07:01:59] Do you feel like if you were raised in a different religion you would look at Christianity and

[07:02:05] have become a Christian and try to spread Christianity? Or do you think you would try

[07:02:11] and spread that religion? I think it depends on the time slots. I think with age I would

[07:02:17] have converted to Christianity or become agnostic as I have become in my older years. You think

[07:02:22] if you were raised around a load of people that believed in a different religion you

[07:02:26] would still become Christian? Yes. Interesting, okay. I know it sounds a little odd, but

[07:02:35] So here's the most of us just when we're really young. This is this is normal

[07:02:40] We are we are taught by our parents what to believe we have to trust them because they teach us how to have stability

[07:02:47] How to have morals how to function in in society, right?

[07:02:52] But as we get older we become more independent

[07:02:56] Religions in my family. I actually did I had no I don't

[07:02:59] Definitely. Zero idea.

[07:03:03] Really? Are you English?

[07:03:09] Well, I know that you're English nationally, but are you genetically English or are you kind of a mix?

[07:03:18] Yeah, I'm genetically English.

[07:03:20] Okay, I was wondering because I wouldn't be surprised if you said, like, oh, I have some

[07:03:27] Arabian, like, okay, so that would explain there would be more than one religion because

[07:03:31] of regions and stuff like that, but it doesn't really matter.

[07:03:36] So as we get older, we kind of start to realize is that we can think beyond just

[07:03:41] what our parents teach us, right, so we can be exposed to new things and new religions,

[07:03:46] new ideas and we have more independent thoughts.

[07:03:51] I think I would definitely convert either to Christianity,

[07:03:54] more specifically Roman Catholicism,

[07:03:57] or I would choose to become, as I am now, which is agnostic,

[07:04:01] where I don't really know what to believe.

[07:04:03] Because I think that Christian principles,

[07:04:06] they just make much sense.

[07:04:07] They are very anti-slavery to the point

[07:04:10] where slave masters in the United States,

[07:04:14] Before they banned slaves from reading, they would actually have altered bibles that were

[07:04:20] considered slave bibles that had a lot of context taken out in order to keep slaves from revolting.

[07:04:27] It was in and of its prescriptions all sorts of important things, human dignity.

[07:04:32] I personally think I would have converted.

[07:04:35] If you were a slave, you think you would have converted to Christianity?

[07:04:40] Well, I, oh yeah, absolutely, but even if I wasn't a slave and I was just some person,

[07:04:47] I thought I was like an Arab living in Egypt and I was a raised Muslim, I think I would

[07:04:55] have converted to Christianity.

[07:04:57] Okay, but isn't that about what you believe, not what you think is the nicest principles?

[07:05:04] Right.

[07:05:05] Well, I think there's definitely some truth there.

[07:05:08] know like what like what we think is true. I feel like you can't pick a religion based on a

[07:05:18] like who has nice principles. I feel like most people pick a religion based on what they believe.

[07:05:25] To a degree but I think we all know at the end of the day when it comes to certain things if

[07:05:30] a religion is constantly saying this this and that is okay there has to be a point where

[07:05:35] we draw the line like some religions believe that child marriage is okay.

[07:05:42] I don't think anyone's going to defend that.

[07:05:45] Right.

[07:05:46] Right.

[07:05:47] You know, at some point we have to have a line where we say, well, does it really make

[07:05:51] sense to believe in something that says that this is okay or that that is okay,

[07:05:57] A, B, and C are okay, but X, Y, and Z aren'ts.

[07:06:01] You know, like, it's okay to marry your cousin in some religions, but it's not okay to eat

[07:06:10] pork in that same religion.

[07:06:13] Does that make sense?

[07:06:14] Yes.

[07:06:15] Okay.

[07:06:16] For example, I like the mindset of a lot of religions, right?

[07:06:24] I like the principles, right, of a lot of religions.

[07:06:30] But that doesn't mean that, like I feel like the number one thing of being religious is

[07:06:36] believing the thing.

[07:06:40] I feel like you can't just be religious because you like the principle of being religious.

[07:06:46] Yeah, you're going to the argument of reality rather than the argument of morality, which

[07:06:51] I don't think is particularly bad because, you know, if this God is real, then you

[07:06:57] should probably believe in his principles, regardless of whether or not he tells you to do things

[07:07:02] that you want to do or not, right? Is that what you're kind of getting at?

[07:07:06] Yeah.

[07:07:07] Like, yeah, I understand that. There's a little bit of an advantage of being an agnostic. You're

[07:07:16] not sakes in one particular religion. I just believe that Christian principles, like,

[07:07:22] my argument wasn't that Christianity is true. My argument was that Christianity

[07:07:27] have civilized the world.

[07:07:28] Okay.

[07:07:29] But don't you think the religion has also caused a lot of wars?

[07:07:36] Well, it's definitely been a reason to respond to aggression in the past.

[07:07:43] But there isn't a whole lot of war.

[07:07:45] It's actually a myth that Christianity in particular has caused a lot of war.

[07:07:52] People oftentimes cite the Crusades, but the Crusades were actually a defensive war

[07:07:56] against Muslim invasion.

[07:07:58] What about Catholic versus Protestant?

[07:08:05] Catholic versus Protestants is kind of a religious war,

[07:08:10] but if you actually look at it, it's actually more of a land

[07:08:13] and war.

[07:08:14] For instance, one of the reasons why Catholic and Protestants

[07:08:17] were separated so often in Northern Ireland

[07:08:20] was because it was Protestant.

[07:08:24] But Ireland was heavily Catholic and England took over that area of Ireland and mistreated

[07:08:30] the Irish.

[07:08:31] And it's more of a nationality war, especially with the crimes that they committed with the

[07:08:36] potato famine.

[07:08:37] And when I say English, I'm talking to English governments.

[07:08:41] Obviously, I don't think that you had anything to do with starving some Irish people with

[07:08:45] potatoes.

[07:08:46] No, I'm making an Irish version.

[07:08:48] Nothing before 2003 is real, okay?

[07:08:51] It's all made up and your memories are implanted, okay?

[07:08:55] Wait, you were born in 2003?

[07:08:57] Yeah.

[07:08:59] Oh, you make me feel so old.

[07:09:01] I'm gonna be 30 in January.

[07:09:03] Hey, well, if it makes you feel better,

[07:09:05] you're actually also gonna be 23 in January

[07:09:09] because the memories were just implanted.

[07:09:13] Oh, right, right exactly.

[07:09:15] Everything was faked before that.

[07:09:17] That's good.

[07:09:18] Yeah, true, true, true.

[07:09:20] Well, okay, that was an interesting debate.

[07:09:25] I feel like it's a tough one.

[07:09:28] We've had the debate of religion a lot,

[07:09:31] and I feel so easily persuadable in my life.

[07:09:35] If I talk to someone for long enough,

[07:09:37] I start to believe their points.

[07:09:39] As someone that was raised

[07:09:41] with a lot of different mindsets around me,

[07:09:43] I've kind of given up trying to figure out

[07:09:45] what's going on in the world,

[07:09:46] and I'm just like, well, when I die, I see, I guess.

[07:09:50] I feel like I as a whole stick to religious principles. Okay, maybe that's not true

[07:09:58] But like you know, I feel like I would consider myself a good person, okay?

[07:10:03] I do I try and have a positive impact on the world and

[07:10:07] In my opinion if I was a god I would

[07:10:12] Send me to heaven

[07:10:14] After my girlfriend I started to believe in Jesus Christ and I feel a lot better

[07:10:20] but I feel like I try and have a positive impact on the world, okay?

[07:10:28] If I was gone, I would send me to Heaven.

[07:10:32] Yee-ha, Diane, find out is why I love Lydia.

[07:10:35] I feel like I'll find out eventually, you know?

[07:10:39] But I don't try and do it because I'm like, oh, God is watching over me.

[07:10:44] I just try and do it because I'm like...

[07:10:46] You want to feel good about yourself.

[07:10:48] yourself you want to be able to you can't you know there's an old phrase I

[07:10:51] learned from a movie it's just you can't put a price and be able to live with

[07:10:55] yourself yeah exactly you just you have that little warm cushy tingly little

[07:11:01] feel-good feeling when you do nice things so yeah yeah well usually usually

[07:11:06] when I get that feeling I usually go to the bathroom just to be sure oh no it's

[07:11:11] like different whether I have it in my heart or if I have it in my gut well

[07:11:16] it also depends on whether you've done like a good thing or you've had like a

[07:11:19] like a chicken tk you know it depends on what's happened before that as well but

[07:11:25] um Acyon thank you so much for coming on WUW

[07:11:28] Christian representative

[07:11:30] okay who do you think won?

[07:11:32] sorry?

[07:11:34] who would you say won then?

[07:11:35] okay chat one if you feel like spreading Christianity is uh helping

[07:11:40] civilize the world to if you don't I don't know religious or not I feel like I

[07:11:49] wouldn't try and spread my beliefs like religious or not I feel like I feel like

[07:11:57] I feel like it's interesting to debate but I wouldn't like try and spread it you

[07:12:04] know what if you believe that what if you believe that spreading what if you

[07:12:07] You believe in God and you believe that spreading your religion got everyone you love to heaven.

[07:12:12] Wouldn't you want as many people to join you as possible?

[07:12:16] Everyone I have, I love to what?

[07:12:19] To heaven.

[07:12:20] You know, like that.

[07:12:21] I don't think they should go to heaven.

[07:12:23] Like, I don't think that they should try and go to heaven only because they feel

[07:12:26] like someone's watching them.

[07:12:28] I feel like they should try and be a good person.

[07:12:31] Because like, to be a good person, you know, and then I feel like you just

[07:12:34] go to heaven, you know?

[07:12:35] Yeah.

[07:12:36] So what does chat say so far anyway?

[07:12:38] Oh, I think, okay, I think they said two, but I think they said two so slimly.

[07:12:42] It was so close. It was back and forth.

[07:12:46] All right. Well, let's be talking to you, Lydia.

[07:12:48] Honestly, that's like, that's like crazy that it was close, you know, that was that was

[07:12:54] good debate. Thank you very much. I'll see you around. I appreciate it.

[07:12:58] See you around.

[07:12:59] See you around.

[07:13:00] Okay, chat. My debating skills are becoming lower IQ the longer the night goes on,

[07:13:04] but I'm just, I'm having fun. I'm really sorry.

[07:13:06] Okay, um, okay, maybe a few more, maybe a few more. Um, what if I'm, I spread parmesan on my

[07:13:14] bullenies? What's wrong with that? That's so yummy. W double you spreading palm actually no,

[07:13:23] because then I would have less parmesan spread on my bullenies. I mean, probably not because

[07:13:29] of really in different countries. So it probably has no impact. So actually, yeah, spread as

[07:13:33] as much parmesan as you would like. Wait hold on is that A.O? Okay you know what I'm just

[07:13:37] going to- where are you A.Oing? Okay um uh Northie Pie? You know what to do.

[07:13:49] Oh no. Okay um autism. Undiagnosed. Hello. Hello autism undiagnosed.

[07:13:56] Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too um how are you doing?

[07:14:00] I'm doing all right. My debate topic is I don't think people should be allowed to vote. I'm against voting

[07:14:10] Right, okay, so do you believe in like a dictatorship?

[07:14:14] No, I just believe that like

[07:14:17] Voting as a concept and the way that society has become of like how easy it is to misinform mass amounts of people

[07:14:23] Like it wasn't a good system to begin with but basically it's too easy of a system to manipulate

[07:14:28] And I also don't think that I think a good vote in concept is okay, but it reaches too far

[07:14:33] So what would you do instead?

[07:14:36] It would be like

[07:14:37] Maricopa C base so like people that vote would be much smaller and they would be like the experts in the field that the voting relates to

[07:14:44] Okay, so much more easy to corrupt and bribe

[07:14:52] And it's innocent I don't really know how people being an expert in a field makes them more viable

[07:14:56] Because there's like 100 people voting instead of like 300 million.

[07:15:02] That depends entirely on the field.

[07:15:04] And actually directs so lately to like how much that field is used.

[07:15:07] So like for example there's lots of like civil engineering infrastructure workers and stuff like that.

[07:15:12] That would be a much larger voting pool than say for example like a very niche pharmaceutical law or something like that to that degree.

[07:15:19] Okay so what are they like...

[07:15:21] Okay so who's voting on the prime minister or the president?

[07:15:25] Politicians, career politicians, policy makers, people that know how social issues are affected

[07:15:32] by...

[07:15:33] So one group of people who has probably had a very privileged background, all probably

[07:15:44] of similar upbringing, are the only people who are allowed to vote on the world leader.

[07:15:52] In a sense, I don't really know how a prime minister is voted for, but for example, I don't

[07:16:00] think a general layman has the, you know, they have information that can lead into a specific

[07:16:05] vote, but I don't think that means it's the vote.

[07:16:07] No, but they're able to represent what they do, right?

[07:16:13] It's like people from all different backgrounds within the country represent those people,

[07:16:19] right?

[07:16:20] Okay?

[07:16:21] I don't know, like, they're a graphic designer, I don't know.

[07:16:26] And one party is voting to help out graphic designers, right?

[07:16:32] Okay?

[07:16:32] Then all the graphic designers who vote are representing graphic designers, right?

[07:16:37] Okay?

[07:16:38] Like, obviously, the vote is pretty much always going to go in the same way that

[07:16:42] helps out politicians.

[07:16:44] It's the only people who get to vote are the politicians.

[07:16:48] Well, because in general, I don't think like politicians and like policies in general should be made to the like wins and decisions of people.

[07:16:55] People are self-interested. It's a government's job to be like publicly interested.

[07:16:59] The whole point is being self-interested, right? You want to help out as many people as possible.

[07:17:03] Of course, they're going to vote in a self-interested way.

[07:17:07] And then if enough people vote, then it helps out the most people.

[07:17:12] at the expense of everybody that it didn't get voted for.

[07:17:16] Like the idea that, you know, people getting helped or not

[07:17:19] should be up to the people that are fighting over that help

[07:17:22] is, I think, flawed.

[07:17:24] I think if there are people that need help,

[07:17:25] it should be a decision on like if it's worth the cost.

[07:17:28] Okay, if all the politicians, right, okay,

[07:17:30] are getting 100K plus, okay?

[07:17:33] Okay.

[07:17:34] Then that probably a lot of them,

[07:17:35] the majority of them, might vote for, I don't know,

[07:17:39] lower taxes for rich people.

[07:17:41] For example, okay?

[07:17:43] I don't think that's fair,

[07:17:45] and it's necessarily gonna lead to the best outcome.

[07:17:48] That's just the policy that's gonna get chosen.

[07:17:51] A policymaker wouldn't be voting on, for example,

[07:17:53] a salary for a government worker.

[07:17:55] You would talk to an economist or something like that

[07:17:57] and get their vote.

[07:17:58] No, but they're gonna vote on a leader

[07:18:01] who is having certain stances.

[07:18:07] I suppose, I don't really know what purpose

[07:18:09] a general leader would hold in a sense

[07:18:10] because the idea is to more like,

[07:18:12] modularize the-

[07:18:13] So you don't want a general leader?

[07:18:16] I mean, there has to be a representative of the country

[07:18:18] for like, diplomacy purposes and stuff like that.

[07:18:21] But-

[07:18:22] Bro, don't you want to say?

[07:18:23] Like, don't you want to say on like,

[07:18:25] who runs the country?

[07:18:28] No, not really.

[07:18:29] I don't think it's that important,

[07:18:30] like I said, other than for like diplomacy,

[07:18:32] like, more of a representative.

[07:18:33] One person making all the decisions,

[07:18:35] one person is never going to know correctly

[07:18:37] all the different things you need to run a country.

[07:18:38] That's why they have cabinets

[07:18:40] and foundations and committees to tell them

[07:18:42] what's best to do in those situations.

[07:18:43] Yeah, but if you only have like 100 people,

[07:18:45] sorry, you didn't want to see my stock,

[07:18:47] if you only have like 100 people voting, okay,

[07:18:50] then it is much more likely to bribe and finesse the outcome.

[07:18:58] Do you think so?

[07:18:59] Because these are unrelated people and they are,

[07:19:04] it's almost like a forcible request of their vote

[07:19:07] versus like something they volunteer for or like, you know.

[07:19:10] In the system, somebody would receive notice of eligibility

[07:19:12] to like cast a vote.

[07:19:14] For example, okay, for example, right?

[07:19:17] Like streamers, right?

[07:19:21] If streamers voted on who's the number one streamer,

[07:19:25] then they might vote for someone different

[07:19:27] than if the general public who watches stream

[07:19:30] votes for who's the number one streamer.

[07:19:32] Because when you stream every day, every day,

[07:19:35] when you stream a lot, okay?

[07:19:36] And it's what you do, then you look at different things

[07:19:40] that people that aren't streamers might look at,

[07:19:42] for example.

[07:19:44] Does that make our opinion better?

[07:19:46] Not necessarily, at the end of the day,

[07:19:48] you're streaming to majority of people that don't stream.

[07:19:51] Well, a government would never have

[07:19:52] to decide the best streamer.

[07:19:53] That's like an entertainment preference.

[07:19:54] No, no, but it's an example.

[07:19:56] It's an example.

[07:19:58] In my example, there are like objective,

[07:20:00] like empirical decisions you can make

[07:20:02] to find out what's best and what is most cost-effective.

[07:20:05] Like you say, it helps the most people, but it doesn't in a way that doesn't deprive the people that...

[07:20:09] Yeah, but how do you trust them to vote for something that helps most people?

[07:20:13] I mean, how do you trust regular people?

[07:20:16] Because they're going to vote for what helps them.

[07:20:19] And if everyone votes for what helps them, then the person that gets elected is probably going to help the most people.

[07:20:27] No, it's just going to have the most self-interest, because everybody's voted self-interestedly.

[07:20:31] Yeah, so it helps out the most people.

[07:20:34] If you only let one select group of people vote,

[07:20:38] then it's probably going to be a very biased vote.

[07:20:42] Yeah, so all self-interested people.

[07:20:46] Yeah, but if everyone does that, then it helps out the most people.

[07:20:51] Everybody being self-interested as a priority helps everybody?

[07:20:56] Yes.

[07:20:58] I disagree. I think it creates a much more selfish and like you know secluded system or like the people that already have the privilege to vote

[07:21:05] Kind of like what you're talking about how like the people in that field will get more power in that field

[07:21:09] You want to live in a place where you have a little bit of a say

[07:21:12] Well, yeah, and you would have a you know voting on like local issues to like your community

[07:21:17] People think that I'm too dumb to

[07:21:21] Would you say that most people are smart enough to cast like yeah, yes, I do. Yes, I do. Yes. Yes

[07:21:25] Yes. Yes. I think everyone should have a say.

[07:21:28] Yes.

[07:21:29] Well, I disagree. I think people can't be trusted to...

[07:21:32] I do not agree with people that are like,

[07:21:35] stupid other people.

[07:21:38] The other people in the population are too low IQ.

[07:21:41] They don't understand. My work counts,

[07:21:43] but other people, they don't understand.

[07:21:45] They shouldn't have a vote.

[07:21:46] The population is too low to vote.

[07:21:47] I'm going to try and leave it for the elitist about it.

[07:21:48] You know, there's not, like I said,

[07:21:49] there's not one group that should get to vote

[07:21:50] on very broadly reaching things.

[07:21:52] It should be specific to, you know,

[07:21:54] Only the people in that field are going to know what's important to even know.

[07:21:57] No, but that's also going to vote. Yeah, but that's also going to vote for the things that help them.

[07:22:02] Okay, let's leave it up to a vote. Let's leave it up to a vote.

[07:22:05] Sorry, we're voting on voting, but yeah.

[07:22:08] That's fair.

[07:22:09] Okay, chat one, if people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

[07:22:14] Two, if it is good to have a say on what happens in the place that you live

[07:22:20] voting is a good thing and

[07:22:23] Sorry, I'm being really biased in this word. Yeah, my bad. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna let it fly. I'm just gonna

[07:22:29] Sorry

[07:22:32] I mean, I was a base opinion

[07:22:35] Especially with like, you know, all the social media and communication era stuff

[07:22:38] Maybe it was better when you know, you had to write your farm card into town to vote every four years

[07:22:42] But now it's just too easy to influence

[07:22:45] That's like like scrolling

[07:22:47] I feel like that's probably not the average person that's going to vote, you know?

[07:22:54] I feel like the average person that's actually taking the time out of their day to go vote

[07:22:59] has probably done everything.

[07:23:01] For the record, if there has to be voting, I think there should also be a voting day.

[07:23:04] I think voting could be done right, but it would need something like a voting day where everybody gets off work.

[07:23:08] Because then it's more of an income privilege thing.

[07:23:11] Yeah, but everyone was forced to vote.

[07:23:13] Nah, because then people just voted for a random vote.

[07:23:16] to do just a paid day off work so they don't lose to vote.

[07:23:20] Yeah.

[07:23:22] Yeah, but then you still lose to vote.

[07:23:25] Because what about that nerdy kid in the office

[07:23:28] who stays at home and does work?

[07:23:30] And then you thought that you had the day off to vote.

[07:23:32] But then this guy has done the entire presentation.

[07:23:36] Well, you were like, oh, I just thought

[07:23:37] it was a fun day off.

[07:23:39] And then you get back to work.

[07:23:41] And then, yeah, anyway, sorry, off topic here.

[07:23:43] But what is it, undiagnosed?

[07:23:46] Thank you so much for coming on.

[07:23:48] Thank you very much.

[07:23:49] I appreciate it.

[07:23:50] And I'll see you around in seven.

[07:23:51] Nice meeting you, too.

[07:23:52] Have a good one.

[07:23:53] Bye.

[07:23:54] Have a good one.

[07:23:55] Oh, wait, that was so awesome at the end.

[07:23:56] But what?

[07:23:57] Oh, my gosh.

[07:23:58] I actually, I've had so many people come on and be like, yeah, average population

[07:24:04] too low IQ to vote.

[07:24:06] But it's like, the world doesn't like that, you know?

[07:24:09] It's like, okay, even if you thought you were IQ elite, okay?

[07:24:16] Chad, even if you believe that you are 170 IQ

[07:24:19] and everyone else is 10 IQ, okay?

[07:24:21] And you're just that guy, you are that guy, okay?

[07:24:24] Then like, that doesn't mean that they shouldn't have a say.

[07:24:27] It's like, I think that if there was a school for dogs,

[07:24:31] I didn't, not calling the general population dogs,

[07:24:35] but like, say if there was a school for dogs, okay?

[07:24:38] then I think that every doggy should be able to vote for their doggy headmaster.

[07:24:44] For example, anyway, anyway.

[07:24:49] Can we vote on Lydia Viola to rule the world?

[07:24:52] Ask him for a friend.

[07:24:55] Do you think we get enough votes?

[07:24:58] Nobody would have voted for Fluffy if that isn't messed up.

[07:25:01] Parmaban.

[07:25:04] No say! No say, no say, no say!

[07:25:08] Could we, uh...

[07:25:12] CWS!

[07:25:13] Hello, hello, you're on mute and offence, so, uh...

[07:25:16] Yo, hello, can you hear me?

[07:25:17] Hi, I can hear you!

[07:25:19] How are you doing?

[07:25:20] Yo, I'm good, I'm just really freaking nervous.

[07:25:22] I gotta mute your stream.

[07:25:24] No, it's literally just me and you, okay?

[07:25:26] Don't worry, I'll take care of them.

[07:25:29] This is too many people.

[07:25:30] Would you like me to, uh...

[07:25:32] Would you like me to perm a ban, uh, anyone that acts up?

[07:25:36] It's your decision.

[07:25:37] No, it's fine. I closed the show. I feel like I got a lot of hate for this, but honestly,

[07:25:41] I'm gonna stand by my argument. I'm gonna stand by it. But yeah, my topic is kind of different

[07:25:46] from the rest, because I feel like a lot of people take real-life things. I just want

[07:25:49] to debate you on something that's not too serious, but I feel like it will still be fun.

[07:25:54] You think you're gonna get a lot of hate for it, though, okay?

[07:25:57] Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's mixed, but we'll see. But yeah, my topic is,

[07:26:02] what do you think the best game of all time is?

[07:26:05] And I think my one of your mods already exposed it, so I kind of already know where you're going to go with

[07:26:10] But I want to see what do you think the best game of all time is lol

[07:26:15] Lol League of Legends. Yeah, that's what your that's what your mods said

[07:26:18] But my best game of all time is Elden Ring

[07:26:21] I just think I mean I'm gonna get into why it's the best

[07:26:23] But I want to ask you a first the leading question before we get into it

[07:26:27] Um, so because like I want to know like where we should like

[07:26:31] base

[07:26:32] like start the argument basically.

[07:26:34] Like what do you think defines a good game and why?

[07:26:36] Like what are like the main things

[07:26:38] that define a good game?

[07:26:39] I think a game that you can play

[07:26:43] that you will never, ever get bored of.

[07:26:46] Like when you play a game and you're like,

[07:26:48] oh my gosh,

[07:26:52] I could literally be in a shed right now

[07:26:57] and I would just be happy in my life playing this forever.

[07:27:01] So, like, happiness, basically, but can you get into, like, can you get into, like, I don't know, how do you wear this is kind of hard.

[07:27:10] Um, it's like, can you name, like, maybe, like, three bullet points of what, what, like, what makes a good game?

[07:27:19] Like, is it like, like the community built around the game?

[07:27:23] the game is it like the like like is it like it's longevity like it being able

[07:27:30] to like be playable for a long amount of time is it like can you like try and

[07:27:35] find like three good things to name collect like it's hard to start an

[07:27:38] argument without I mean just something that just something that you feel like

[07:27:42] you could play to forever and you'd never get bored of okay I really do

[07:27:46] like Elden Ring but bro if I sit there for 20 hours playing Elden Ring I'm

[07:27:52] I'm gonna be like, I'm tired, I wanna go to bed.

[07:27:55] I hear you, I hear you, but it's gonna be hard

[07:27:56] at the bit, because if your main thing is longevity,

[07:27:59] okay, I understand, like Elden Ring,

[07:28:01] it's hard to pour as many hours on Elden Ring as League,

[07:28:04] because League has like a skill ladder,

[07:28:05] and like it prompts you to play more.

[07:28:08] Yeah, like you can just, like you just,

[07:28:10] you can do Elden Ring, okay?

[07:28:11] And then you can, you can see everything

[07:28:15] there is to see in Elden Ring.

[07:28:16] Obviously it takes a long time,

[07:28:18] but you can see everything there

[07:28:19] is to see in Elden Ring, right?

[07:28:21] And obviously, there's a skill ladder in Elder Ring as well,

[07:28:25] to be honest.

[07:28:26] How fast can you speedrun it?

[07:28:28] All that stuff.

[07:28:29] But it feels different when it's luck-based.

[07:28:35] I think luck-based stuff makes things very addictive.

[07:28:39] It's like, if you die to a boss in Elder Ring,

[07:28:41] like, yeah, it's a bit luck, but it's much more yourself.

[07:28:44] I think what makes something very addictive

[07:28:47] is when you're like, nah, it was my teammates,

[07:28:52] which it always is.

[07:28:53] But like, but like, yeah.

[07:28:54] Like, but you're like, nah, it's my teammates.

[07:28:58] Like the next game will be better

[07:29:01] because you can shift the blame more.

[07:29:04] With something like Alizen Ring,

[07:29:06] you're like, oh, I'm just playing bad now.

[07:29:09] But something that is like a team game,

[07:29:14] you always have that like, oh,

[07:29:16] But maybe I'm not actually playing bad.

[07:29:19] OK, I understand.

[07:29:21] OK, OK, you know what?

[07:29:22] I want to tell you something else.

[07:29:24] You're completely right in your arguments.

[07:29:26] I can't really say anything against your arguments,

[07:29:28] because that's just your view in games in general.

[07:29:30] But we could argue all day of what

[07:29:33] the best game of all time is.

[07:29:35] It would never really go anywhere.

[07:29:36] So I feel like I have to rephrase and say,

[07:29:38] what is objectively the best game of all time?

[07:29:40] Because it's hard to say objective,

[07:29:42] because it's always going to be subjective,

[07:29:44] kind of like the look similar to the way

[07:29:45] you were having a debate about earlier,

[07:29:47] but like if you just had to put one game at the top for like...

[07:29:51] League.

[07:29:53] League, do you think that's the best game of all time, really?

[07:29:55] Yes.

[07:29:58] But like it's so, like what, I don't really,

[07:30:01] I don't really feel like it follows like, like,

[07:30:04] what, I don't know, there's so much tilt

[07:30:06] and it's like it has a really toxic player base.

[07:30:08] Yeah, but that's like the whole point, it's like addictive.

[07:30:11] Yeah, but it's like a high highs, low lows.

[07:30:15] It's like because you care, you want to care.

[07:30:19] Like you want something that's gonna make you feel emotions.

[07:30:23] Yeah, you feel so many emotions without the ring though.

[07:30:26] Like I don't get it.

[07:30:27] Yeah, but like not as many though.

[07:30:30] Like yeah, but like you, I feel like you,

[07:30:34] yeah, but just not as many.

[07:30:36] Because it's not as like, like it's not as addictive

[07:30:40] because you have to blame yourself a lot more for it.

[07:30:43] I feel like personally, non-compatible games aren't as addictive because you keep on dying

[07:30:58] to a boss, right?

[07:31:00] You keep on dying to a boss.

[07:31:02] Then you're like, oh, this boss is just impossible, right, and you're like going to the bad.

[07:31:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[07:31:09] If you keep on dying to the boss, you're like, oh, maybe I'm just tired and you go

[07:31:11] to the bad, right?

[07:31:12] I feel like in competitive games, you're less likely to end because you're always like,

[07:31:18] oh, but maybe it's not like I don't think it's because I'm tired, right?

[07:31:22] I think I've just got an unlucky team like 10 times in a row.

[07:31:27] Oh, really? You think like that? I mean, I get off after three games when I lose in comp. I mean,

[07:31:31] for me, it's the Overwatch, but I get off after three games because if you lose three games,

[07:31:35] it's downhill from there. I've learned my lesson.

[07:31:38] And I, it's, yeah, but again, like shooting, shooting games,

[07:31:42] I feel like I'm much more like that as well.

[07:31:45] Like you get up because it's like,

[07:31:48] I don't know, you keep on missing your shots.

[07:31:50] And it's like, and it's like, oh, I guess it's my fault.

[07:31:54] Okay, I have another question.

[07:31:55] Like I'm just saying that I'm just saying that like, yeah,

[07:31:57] like it's obviously a lot more obvious as well.

[07:32:01] But yes, I feel like actually, you know, I'm pretty sure

[07:32:04] mobile legends bang bang is like the most popular game

[07:32:07] level time.

[07:32:08] Okay, okay.

[07:32:09] What does that, like do you think, like popularity alone, I don't think that can make the best

[07:32:15] game of all time.

[07:32:16] And let me ask you a question.

[07:32:17] What do you think makes the game like truly memorable?

[07:32:19] Like is it endless playability or moments that like challenge and transform you?

[07:32:22] Because I don't feel, I feel like the league is literally the same shit the whole time.

[07:32:26] It's the same.

[07:32:27] Moments that challenge and transform me.

[07:32:30] Yeah, like I feel like a game, like for me that like you said the definition

[07:32:34] of a good game is longevity.

[07:32:35] I think that's like like being able to play it for a long time get like emotions and all that

[07:32:39] But I feel like like like if you play League for ten times in a row

[07:32:43] Can you like think like seven days back? What do you what do you do in your third day?

[07:32:47] Like can you remember the specific calm games you're playing?

[07:32:50] I don't think you can do that, but I'm pretty sure many people can remember like the first time

[07:32:57] Ten times a night you think

[07:33:01] And you got that like dopamine hit like in your sleep

[07:33:05] Tom, I might have to try League then because I don't get that feeling, I might have to

[07:33:11] play it more.

[07:33:12] Well, I don't think you should because I quit and I would never play that game.

[07:33:16] So you never play it again but it's the best game of the whole time?

[07:33:20] Well, okay, no, no, no, because it's too, I just find it personally too addictive,

[07:33:24] right?

[07:33:25] I've never found another game that's too addictive.

[07:33:27] Other games are just like, oh my gosh that's really fun.

[07:33:29] Like, oh, I'll play that in my time off because it's really fun.

[07:33:33] Okay.

[07:33:34] Okay, but why does Elder Ring have the highest game awards of all time? Has League gone?

[07:33:39] I don't think it's the one game. I don't know. It released before G. I don't even know what

[07:33:42] it is. I don't know. But one game of the year, it's subjective. It has the highest awards.

[07:33:48] It got the best Metacritic rate. And League is more accessible. It's free. Elder Ring is

[07:33:55] like a $50, $60 game. It requires a pretty good PC or console to play. I think it's

[07:34:00] Look at how many people play League of Legends, look at how many people play League of Legends.

[07:34:05] You gotta think about the demographic, if you think about it.

[07:34:10] I reckon every person that has played League of Legends has played League of Legends.

[07:34:18] I feel like the average person has 10-20 times the amount of hours in League than they do in League of Legends.

[07:34:25] Yeah, that's true, but I don't feel like that has nothing to do with League of Legends.

[07:34:29] Considering that you have to pay for Elden Ring, I mean, I'm not hating on Elden Ring. I love Elden Ring, but like but like considering

[07:34:35] You have to pay for Elden Ring. You would think that would be the other way around if they would even equal

[07:34:40] As their micro transactions the league I know people I think the league is taking in more money through that then a few people are paying the

[07:34:48] Like Elden Ring amount of the game like multiple times a season to buy

[07:34:53] I don't even know what they buy, but I'm 100% sure there's micro transactions in that game

[07:34:57] Otherwise, how would they be making money?

[07:34:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[07:34:59] But like, but like, why would you think that full per player,

[07:35:05] there are like per player people spend way more time playing

[07:35:08] league than, than Elden Ring?

[07:35:10] How could you think that?

[07:35:12] And then so be like, the Elden Ring's better.

[07:35:16] I mean, like, like I said, we fall back into like,

[07:35:20] what defines a good game?

[07:35:21] I don't think like amount of players and all this,

[07:35:24] like these things.

[07:35:25] I'm out of play time.

[07:35:27] Yeah, but the thing is League is built to have this thing where it's like it's created that you should you have to keep playing it.

[07:35:34] Like it's not created like a story game where like it has an ending like obviously out there has higher playability.

[07:35:40] But it's still like no matter how many replayability there is it won't be the game like League because League's like fundamental ground is built on the fact that you continue playing to rank up.

[07:35:51] Like that's the thing that's the thing that crits dopamine

[07:35:53] But like I said, I don't feel like that defines the game like like what defines the game for me is gameplay and mechanics

[07:35:58] Well, then explanation like story and emotional impact challenge and reward influence

[07:36:12] You know, do you know the law there's so much law like this

[07:36:16] It's the arcane the whole show who cares boys, not even a good show, bro

[07:36:20] Okay, to be fair, I didn't really like it.

[07:36:22] You know what you mean?

[07:36:23] It's not just okay.

[07:36:24] There's so much backstory to every single job.

[07:36:27] Bro, Overwatch is better at lore than League.

[07:36:30] I'm not even sure that if Overwatch released a movie, it would be better.

[07:36:33] League has, like, lore is like any other game.

[07:36:36] Elden Ring has the lore created, like the person that created Game of Thrones, one

[07:36:39] of the best shows of all time.

[07:36:40] I mean, maybe not the last, I will, I debated while in last seasons, but still one

[07:36:44] of the best shows of all time, George R. R. Martin.

[07:36:46] He wrote Elden Ring, a lot of its story.

[07:36:49] The director known one of the best directors of all time here to talk to me is Aki Japani

[07:36:53] director is amazing.

[07:36:54] I mean like like it just has really good writers the lore and elder ring is much better.

[07:36:59] It's it's it's it's you don't even know the lore and leak so how can you say that

[07:37:02] it's better.

[07:37:04] I mean it's a pretty educated guess like it is the person that created league is

[07:37:08] known as George R. Martin I doubt it.

[07:37:11] No, I don't even know what our modern is. Yes, I do okay because because

[07:37:19] Hold on riot is Chinese

[07:37:23] No, because because because the person that created the lol, okay is

[07:37:30] Riots American

[07:37:34] What

[07:37:37] Why it's America? Okay. Yeah, my bad. Yeah, my bad. Yeah, my bad. Okay, but still you can't say something's better

[07:37:44] When you turn or okay?

[07:37:47] You're right. You're right, but you I don't think you know much about like out there in the Lord either

[07:37:52] Okay, yeah, I don't okay, okay

[07:37:55] But okay, we both have little information. I I mean I it'll be impossible to tell you that out there in the Lord

[07:38:01] Like we'll have to be after like 20 hours. I mean, okay, but I played both

[07:38:05] You've only played one respectfully.

[07:38:08] No, I've played League.

[07:38:10] I'm telling you, as someone that has, I don't know how many hours in Elden Ring.

[07:38:13] Hundreds of hours in Elden Ring.

[07:38:15] And thousands of hours in League.

[07:38:18] I can tell you League is so much better.

[07:38:21] And I'm saying, as someone who loves Elden Ring.

[07:38:24] And based on what? Based on longevity? Is that your argument?

[07:38:27] No, based on how fun it is.

[07:38:30] Based on how fun it is. I can't explain it. It's just how fun.

[07:38:33] It's like I don't know why when I have blueberries and when I have McDonald's and when I have

[07:38:40] a Yorkshire pudding, okay, it's more yummy than when I have Brussels sprouts. I don't know why

[07:38:45] it just is bro. I don't know.

[07:38:51] I mean, this is a hard topic for it's game. Do you want to lead it up to a vote? I reckon

[07:38:58] I think you're going to win because I have more Elden Ring viewers because I've played Elden Ring more often.

[07:39:05] Your arguments are completely valid. That's why I'm trying to confine them.

[07:39:11] They're completely valid. I can't really see anything against them because those are completely valid points.

[07:39:15] It's so hard to have a debate on this topic. That's why I'm trying to confine it into parameters.

[07:39:21] I don't know. I'm sounding really nerdy right now, but we're trying to see where I'm trying to go.

[07:39:25] leave it up to a vote and see what people think. I feel like you'd say that. I like your points as well.

[07:39:34] League has the best esports by far. I like Elden Ring Speedruns, but let's be real. League has one

[07:39:40] of the best esports. It's one of the most fun to watch. It's basically sports and gaming. It's

[07:39:45] awesome. I like it. Thank you. Well, chat one for Elden Ring Two for League. I reckon you're

[07:39:53] you're going to win but I also feel like it's going to be close.

[07:39:56] Ooh!

[07:39:57] I mean considering I played a lot of Aldermen on stream then I would assume that I would

[07:40:05] probably have my Aldermen.

[07:40:06] No, I'm really glad you played the game.

[07:40:09] Wait, did you beat the DLC, right?

[07:40:11] I was offered but you beat it, right?

[07:40:14] Yeah.

[07:40:15] Yeah, I was offered.

[07:40:16] Nice, nice, nice.

[07:40:17] Yeah, you win.

[07:40:18] Aldermen.

[07:40:19] Let's go!

[07:40:20] Yeah.

[07:40:21] Yeah, I knew that would happen, okay because it is what it is.

[07:40:27] I really appreciate it, it was like it's 3.34 am for me, I've been waiting for like four

[07:40:31] hours.

[07:40:32] Thank God.

[07:40:33] Shout out, shout out, shout out your mod Norseman for bringing me in.

[07:40:37] I really appreciate you, shout out you as well in your shout, you guys are really

[07:40:40] cool people.

[07:40:41] Thank you very much, he's actually called Norsepy, that's what people call him.

[07:40:48] I don't know why it says Norseman on that in the safe language.

[07:40:52] He's called Norsepy, if you want to shout him out.

[07:40:54] But he's so much better than we think he would come in one.

[07:40:58] Thank you for waiting that long.

[07:41:00] No, it's all good, it's all good.

[07:41:01] I haven't gone to sleep, nobody.

[07:41:03] Good night.

[07:41:04] Ah!

[07:41:05] OK, chat.

[07:41:05] One more.

[07:41:06] Sorry, I don't want to say that all the time,

[07:41:08] but like one more, but like one more, but like one more.

[07:41:10] OK, one more.

[07:41:10] OK, OK.

[07:41:12] Norsepy, could we have one more, please?

[07:41:17] Oh my gosh.

[07:41:17] is actually so late. Yes, I am streaming tomorrow. Yay! Tello, Gage!

[07:41:22] Are you paying mods over time? It's so late.

[07:41:26] Yeah. Free 99. They get an extra 99 on top of the free 99.

[07:41:33] It's good.

[07:41:34] Yeah, it'll be like that.

[07:41:35] It's a hair dye. It looks really pretty.

[07:41:37] Oh, thank you! It looks crazy. I've been fluffing it all day, but thank you.

[07:41:43] Thanks. What would you like to debate about?

[07:41:46] Yeah, so I have a hot take. I think you're really cheap.

[07:41:50] You think I'm cheap?

[07:41:54] Very.

[07:41:58] This is the most rage bait thing I feel like I've ever experienced.

[07:42:04] Bro, my dad, okay, like he like does my accounting and stuff,

[07:42:08] and he's always like, Lydia, you need to stop spending money. Lydia, you need to stop spending money, okay?

[07:42:11] And then I hop on stream, and then everyone's like,

[07:42:15] I was like sorting by cheap as fast, sorting by cheap as fast, sorting by cheap as fast.

[07:42:20] Love me love, okay, I, leave me be bro, leave me be.

[07:42:26] Gabe, why do you think I'm cheap?

[07:42:29] So, first example, you were watching Game of Thrones you said?

[07:42:33] Yes.

[07:42:34] So you were talking about how you were going to watch it, right?

[07:42:36] Yeah.

[07:42:37] And you said you wouldn't subscribe to HBO because it was $20 a month.

[07:42:41] You'd rather break the law and pirate it.

[07:42:43] I didn't pirate it. I I did pirate it. I mean I did okay first of all yeah because

[07:42:53] it's free like that doesn't mean I'm cheap like that I feel like I feel like

[07:42:56] someone's not cheap because I'm pirating something also I would never break the

[07:42:58] law this is hypothetical in-game scenario but bro you okay first of all

[07:43:04] okay the pirating website literally work better than a non-pirating websites

[07:43:07] second rule I spent 15 pound a month on now TV okay because in the pirated

[07:43:13] website like the Dothraki didn't show up as Dothraki, okay? And then so I had no idea

[07:43:19] what they were saying in Dothraki, okay? So I bought an RTV for 15 a month bro just so

[07:43:25] I knew what's happening in Dothraki, okay? 15 a month, oh my gosh, nearly paid for the

[07:43:30] subscription that like I accidentally paid for a year. So I paid for hundreds of RTV.

[07:43:34] So scammy, okay? And then so I was watching on RTV but there was so many ads on RTV,

[07:43:39] Okay, that I returned back to the pirated.

[07:43:43] Does that make you happy?

[07:43:44] I paid and then I returned back

[07:43:45] because the pirated websites are legit better.

[07:43:49] It's a better viewing experience.

[07:43:50] Pirating is more popular now than it was back in the day

[07:43:55] due to everyone getting filtered at the subscriptions.

[07:43:59] No, but like, it's actually insane.

[07:44:01] The pirated websites are better, easier to use

[07:44:05] and have less ads than the non-pirated.

[07:44:08] 15 a pound a month, okay, and I'm getting more ads than the free websites. I think that's

[07:44:14] very hard.

[07:44:15] Do you guys have like HBO over there?

[07:44:16] Yeah, yeah, but HBO was like 20 pound a month. So why would I, like, their sites, they just

[07:44:21] do it cheaper.

[07:44:22] You just couldn't justify 20 pounds a month? I think a tier 3 sub is 20 pounds a month,

[07:44:28] doesn't it?

[07:44:29] Yeah, and you want me to completely waste a tier 3 sub, YOLO for literally no reason.

[07:44:34] I'm like, I could pay 15 a month. I could pay 15 a month, but you know what? I'm

[07:44:37] going to pay 20 pound a month because I want to waste a tier 3 sub, ww.

[07:44:44] Okay.

[07:44:45] Like what?

[07:44:46] So over the summer you were burned alive essentially, it was super hot, chat said you should just

[07:44:54] find another place with AC and you can justify it.

[07:44:58] I found another place, I stayed a night in a hotel.

[07:45:01] I stayed a night in a hotel with smashed up windows and mold in the sink, and it was £107 for one night.

[07:45:09] Why didn't you buy a nicer hotel?

[07:45:11] Did you just hear me? I spent £107! What's that? Like $150?

[07:45:17] Bro, I spent $150 on a flipping hotel, okay?

[07:45:21] That had like, oh my gosh, you got off the lift, okay?

[07:45:24] And it had like, you know, you know, like the yellow and black, like, like, like, like, uh,

[07:45:28] masking tape that they put on crime scenes?

[07:45:30] It had like that all over the doors as you get off the left, but like a hundred and seventy dollars per

[07:45:35] What do you mean?

[07:45:38] That's crazy

[07:45:41] What?

[07:45:44] And what's that what's that how many two three subs is that off the tax okay? Oh my

[07:45:49] Doodling dude, okay. Oh my gosh

[07:45:53] What do you mean that was like I'm splurge like what that is not cheap

[07:45:59] England just scams you. I mean to be fair it was like the night of that I found a

[07:46:04] hotel but like oh my gosh like I think it's just like going for a hotel the

[07:46:12] night of is really expensive but like that was the most disgusting terrifying

[07:46:16] hotel that I felt like I would be murdered in the entire night.

[07:46:18] 170 pounds, like 170 dollars.

[07:46:24] Next example. Let's talk about your diet, Lydia. So, instead of eating good food, you

[07:46:32] eat ready meals. Sometimes you eat bugs and you live off McDonald's. Sounds pretty cheap

[07:46:37] to me.

[07:46:38] Okay, that's relative, okay? Because I mentioned M&S ready meals yesterday, okay? Or like

[07:46:45] last dream. And someone goes, oh my gosh, M&S ready meals, you rich girl. Someone

[07:46:52] literally said that you can check the vote from last stream someone goes OMG

[07:46:56] M&S ready meals you rich girl so it's relative it's I don't know some people

[07:47:01] think that's really expensive some people think that's really cheap for me I love

[07:47:05] the food that I eat and I wouldn't choose to have anything else well actually

[07:47:08] I did just literally change my diet but nonetheless okay I just I buy the

[07:47:14] things I want to buy also I used to spend like 15 pound of down blueberries

[07:47:18] Which was actually not okay

[07:47:21] But like I don't know why I just eat the food that makes me happy okay and ready meals just

[07:47:27] Bring me fill of joy

[07:47:29] What are you gonna do when you move to America?

[07:47:33] What do you mean I won't have ready meals like of course I will have American Spencer's right?

[07:47:38] Yeah, but I'll just find like another

[07:47:40] Shop

[07:47:41] I think there are like other things in America. There are lots of other foods in America. You know, right?

[07:47:48] That's true. I was actually looking at places in LA because I thought that was cool your streams, but that was cool because it was like relative to what I'm looking at.

[07:47:55] Yeah. I appreciate that. Anyway, so, oh yeah. One time I recommended red bottoms. I was actually considering even donating the amount to buy them for you.

[07:48:06] And you said red bottoms look ugly.

[07:48:08] They're red-bottom shoes. They're Louis Vuitton red-bottom shoes that will like a thousand pounds for some high heels.

[07:48:17] I am cheap because I think a thousand pounds for high heels.

[07:48:23] Yeah, you'd rather wear like fashion Nova and she.

[07:48:26] But because am I cheap? Okay, am I painful? Am I painful? Okay.

[07:48:31] Okay, am I cheap for thinking of thousand pounds for shoes is too expensive?

[07:48:39] What? That's pretty expensive. Bro, that's so expe-

[07:48:45] Yep, Chad's saying you're cheap.

[07:48:47] I don't even think they look that good. Plus...

[07:48:50] Somebody Chad's such a good thing with your mouth.

[07:48:53] Why would I pay a gazillion pounds to have uncomfortable footwear?

[07:49:04] Why would I do that?

[07:49:05] Lady, you are making your Scottish ancestors proud.

[07:49:07] What?

[07:49:08] Thrift away time and money.

[07:49:09] You know what?

[07:49:10] You know what I bought in the Boxing Day sales?

[07:49:14] I bought some Uggie Wacky Boo.

[07:49:15] I would have been expensive because you're so cheap.

[07:49:17] Bro, I bought Uggs.

[07:49:18] I was not cheap, okay?

[07:49:20] I bought some black Uggie Wacky Boo.

[07:49:22] Okay, look at this.

[07:49:33] Look how cute they are!

[07:49:35] Actual Uggs didn't even buy fake ones.

[07:49:38] Literally didn't even buy fake ones.

[07:49:40] Real Uggs, by the way, okay?

[07:49:42] And the, you know what?

[07:49:45] I'm not gonna lie.

[07:49:47] They probably would not want the money.

[07:49:49] really didn't want to wait like three weeks, three months to get them on Alibaba and they

[07:49:55] were they were like hella reduced. But, but, okay, that cozy, that comfy. Oh my gosh, bro,

[07:50:04] it's actually the best life upgrade ever. Okay, because now I just walk outside and

[07:50:08] it feels like I'm wearing slippers. Okay, do you think I walk outside and feel like

[07:50:12] I'm wearing slippers? If I spent 1000 pounds on some shoes that make my feet hurt? I

[07:50:19] I just don't want that. I wouldn't pay 10 pounds for that.

[07:50:25] True.

[07:50:26] Let's talk about your floor mattress.

[07:50:28] Paige, this really looks like I'm winning.

[07:50:31] It looks like you're winning. It looks like you have a floor mattress.

[07:50:35] I love having a floor mattress.

[07:50:37] I could be a millionaire if I have a floor mattress.

[07:50:40] I feel like, you know what? You know what?

[07:50:43] I feel like...

[07:50:44] Do you have any new years resolution?

[07:50:47] I feel like having...

[07:50:49] Norse has a point, he says it's bad for your health.

[07:50:52] Oh my gosh!

[07:50:53] All the cockroaches go on the bed.

[07:50:56] These ba-ba-ba-boomers, bro, okay?

[07:50:59] Like, I'm not gonna have back problems, okay?

[07:51:03] Because I sleep on a full mattress.

[07:51:06] Okay, I'm not going to, okay?

[07:51:09] I am strong.

[07:51:11] I am strong.

[07:51:13] Okay, sorry.

[07:51:14] I believe in the ability of my back to not be that sensitive and I feel like it feels

[07:51:27] like there's so much more room in my flat as a result of not having a big bed.

[07:51:34] I feel like it makes the whole room feel bigger.

[07:51:36] I would never know-

[07:51:37] This guy's your bed's not going to change because he's on a frame.

[07:51:39] If someone gave me a bed frame, I wouldn't want to use that because it makes me feel

[07:51:44] makes the room feel smaller, like trust.

[07:51:46] Like your room feels so much bigger

[07:51:49] if your bed is on the floor.

[07:51:53] I don't know, sounds like cope.

[07:51:55] If not, if someone gave it to me for free,

[07:51:59] I wouldn't want to use that.

[07:52:01] I mean, if you need a bed frame, I'll buy you one.

[07:52:04] I don't need a bed.

[07:52:06] Since you're so cheap.

[07:52:07] Oh my gosh, bro, did I just say,

[07:52:10] let me just say once again, okay,

[07:52:11] I spent 107 pounds because I was too hot to sleep in my flat.

[07:52:15] 107 pounds on a literal.

[07:52:18] It had like yellow and black duct tape all across it.

[07:52:22] Okay.

[07:52:23] That is not something that a cheap person would do.

[07:52:26] Like, like, what do you, like, what do you want from me?

[07:52:29] Like what?

[07:52:31] Just spend more.

[07:52:32] I want, I'm, I'm, I'm not flexing.

[07:52:36] Oh my gosh.

[07:52:37] Okay.

[07:52:38] Okay.

[07:52:39] Wow.

[07:52:39] Flexing all over millions.

[07:52:41] Okay, the way I see money, okay, is like little happiness coins, okay?

[07:52:48] Little happiness coins, and you should spend them on only things that you feel like are

[07:52:54] going to bring you joy, you know?

[07:52:56] If I, why would I put my little happiness coins into something that is not going to improve

[07:53:05] my life and bring me joy?

[07:53:06] Why would I do that?

[07:53:07] You put happiness coins in like Roachfield departments?

[07:53:12] In sewage filled apartments.

[07:53:14] Bro, I didn't realize that my flat was gonna, I didn't realize that was gonna happen.

[07:53:22] Also, okay, I personally feel in my life, okay, that I've spent more money on rent,

[07:53:29] I've spent less money on rent, okay.

[07:53:31] I feel like living in a slightly nicer apartment does not really make me happier.

[07:53:38] If anything, okay, living in a place with like a load of space kind of makes you feel lonely,

[07:53:41] not gonna lie. True. As long as it's in a safe sub-ab.

[07:53:49] My flat is not in a safe sub-ab. I like your necklace. Did you get your necklace from Sheen?

[07:53:53] No! Whoa! I got my necklace from Urban Outfitters, actually. That's just as bad.

[07:54:01] I saw a clip where you were talking about your streamer award stress and you were like, yeah, it's fashion Nova

[07:54:07] bro, I am not gonna spend

[07:54:11] Hundreds of pounds on something that I'm gonna wear once like if I told you that it wasn't from fashion over

[07:54:18] You probably would have believed me like I

[07:54:22] Feel like I have an audience of people

[07:54:25] that

[07:54:26] 95%

[07:54:28] Wouldn't know if it was from fashion over or if it was from Louboutin if I just

[07:54:36] Like oh my gosh, it would pay me so much to buy a dress

[07:54:41] You just know your friends. Yeah. Okay. I should I should have said it was Louboutin my bad. Yeah, my bad

[07:54:47] Do you think Chad is like educated enough in fashion to tell well? I'm not educated enough in fashion to tell it's not a diss

[07:54:54] But like it's not like you're getting up close and touching my dress like

[07:55:00] Like you know, okay, you know what I do spend money on things that I wear every day

[07:55:07] Like

[07:55:09] Lazy lemon

[07:55:10] Okay, stuff that I wear every day then I'll buy good quality like a quit like equipment bra. I will I will spend like I

[07:55:17] Will buy stuff that is good quality

[07:55:20] stuff that I'm only gonna wear once then I don't I'm gonna spend money on stuff

[07:55:24] I'm only gonna wear once I'm only gonna wear it once so you say that right but

[07:55:28] like there's a thing going around where you don't change like your skirts

[07:55:32] every day so you just wear the same skirt I don't row I have multiple of the

[07:55:39] same skirt you could say streaming clothes are like a costume that's what

[07:55:44] yeah they don't definitely don't need to expensive I knew for a solid fact that

[07:55:47] I wasn't going to be like, I was not going to be picked for best just chatting stream

[07:55:52] up, obviously. Okay. So I'm getting like, what, like 10 minutes of airtime? Why would I spend

[07:55:59] hundreds and hundreds of pounds on a dress for like 10 minutes of that time? Like, I

[07:56:05] don't know that just that. If I was if I was if I was subbing to someone, okay, I wouldn't

[07:56:11] want to be like oh I'm subbing to someone who's gonna spend the money on like one

[07:56:17] thousandth of a dress that they're only gonna wear one. Hey you should sub to

[07:56:22] someone that does that. I'm not hating on people that do that but like but like I

[07:56:25] don't know like I wouldn't want that. I don't know it feels painful to justify on

[07:56:31] something that you only wear once. The dress looked nice? Well I think the dress

[07:56:35] looked nice. In my personal opinion the dress looked nice. In my biased

[07:56:39] personal opinion. No, I do think you look nice. Thanks. And if it makes you feel any better,

[07:56:46] I actually bought three fashion overdresses. And I ended up not being able to return them

[07:56:55] because the delivery was more expensive than the dresses. So I actually paid for three

[07:56:59] fashion overdresses. So I did actually spend a decent amount of money.

[07:57:03] But we didn't talk about that because that is painful to think about.

[07:57:08] But, yeah.

[07:57:10] But I didn't...

[07:57:15] Yeah.

[07:57:17] Is that all the points you've got, Gage?

[07:57:19] Because I feel like I answered all of them.

[07:57:21] Have I not proven to you that...

[07:57:22] I think so.

[07:57:23] And I think the obvious result is that you're cheap.

[07:57:25] No, it's not!

[07:57:27] It's not!

[07:57:28] It's that I don't like wasting money.

[07:57:31] I spend it on things that I feel like are good spends and that actually make life better.

[07:57:39] Not dumb ass spends like, hey, HBO is 20 pounds.

[07:57:45] Now TV is 15.

[07:57:47] YOLO, let's just donate five pounds to HBO.

[07:57:53] I think that's fair enough.

[07:57:54] I don't think that makes you cheap.

[07:57:57] I don't think that makes you cheap.

[07:58:02] I think we should let chat decide.

[07:58:04] Chat one, if you think I'm cheap, two, if you think I'm not cheap.

[07:58:07] Guys, I know you're going to say I'm cheap.

[07:58:09] Okay, guys, my dad has my bank account.

[07:58:13] Okay.

[07:58:14] And he constantly tells me to stop spending money.

[07:58:18] So the guy that knows tells me to stop.

[07:58:23] Okay.

[07:58:24] Yes, I thought by cheapest first and up.

[07:58:25] But you honestly, the cheapest first feature

[07:58:27] doesn't even work on Amazon.

[07:58:29] Guys, if you get the first result on Amazon

[07:58:31] instead of scrolling down and looking for the cheaper one,

[07:58:34] you are scamming yourself.

[07:58:36] There is the same result five times

[07:58:38] every time you go on Amazon, okay?

[07:58:40] And just one of them is like three pound cheaper.

[07:58:43] And you've just saved three pounds

[07:58:45] every single item on Amazon, okay?

[07:58:46] This is important knowledge.

[07:58:51] And yes, it's a self scam.

[07:58:54] Did you know that the cheapest result on Amazon is on average,

[07:58:57] I think the 13th or 15th result.

[07:59:02] Just to say, so it's like,

[07:59:03] so I would know because I just get the most expensive option because I'm not cheap.

[07:59:07] Bro, you're paying more money.

[07:59:09] You're just donating to Amazon, bro.

[07:59:12] You're donating to Jeff Bezos.

[07:59:14] You're buying the same item for more money.

[07:59:20] I'm just reiterating.

[07:59:22] That's it. I won the debate. They voted for me, so take care.

[07:59:25] Thanks for streaming. Thanks for watching Stream 8 Hours today. It's almost like a real job.

[07:59:29] Wait, did I actually stream 8 Hours?

[07:59:32] Yeah, it says 7, 8 Hours now. Good job.

[07:59:35] Wait, this is not right! Oh my goodness!

[07:59:39] Oh my gosh, that time flew so fast. I thought this was going to be a short mini stream.

[07:59:45] Holy moly, well done, Gage. Unlucky. That was a hard loss.

[07:59:50] They came in, they came in agreeing with you, and they laughed agreeing with me.

[07:59:56] That must be...

[07:59:56] It did too! That was me.

[07:59:58] Sounds like you're cool.

[07:59:59] No, that was me!

[08:00:00] That was me!

[08:00:01] You said vote 1 if you think I'm not cheap, right?

[08:00:06] So they voted 2.

[08:00:08] Goodbye, Gage.

[08:00:09] No, goodbye, Gage.

[08:00:10] Later.

[08:00:13] Wait!

[08:00:14] Oh my...

[08:00:15] Shoot, it's 3 AM, I should go to bed.

[08:00:17] But I had a whole goof juice chat.

[08:00:22] How am I supposed to sleep now?

[08:00:25] Err.

[08:00:26] Okay.

[08:00:27] No.

[08:00:28] I should.

[08:00:29] Yeah.

[08:00:30] Yeah.

[08:00:31] Yeah.

[08:00:32] Yeah.

[08:00:33] Yeah.

[08:00:34] Yeah.

[08:00:35] Yeah.

[08:00:36] Yeah.

[08:00:37] Yeah.

[08:00:38] Yeah.

[08:00:39] Yeah.

[08:00:40] Yeah.

[08:00:41] Yeah.

[08:00:42] Yeah.

[08:00:43] Yeah.

[08:00:44] Yeah.

[08:00:45] Yeah.

[08:00:46] No, okay, yeah.

[08:00:56] Okay. Okay, your blue-bone hair.

[08:01:09] Oh my gosh.

[08:01:11] I feel bad, that's left right left right left right, go!

[08:01:15] Do you have some money to help you buy an HBO subscription less than three?

[08:01:18] No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!

[08:01:22] But thank you very much, I appreciate it.

[08:01:25] Holy moly, thank you very very very very very very very very very very very very very much.

[08:01:31] Thank you. Thank you.

[08:01:33] Ah, hello! Thank you for my blue blood blood!

[08:01:41] I had four twenty ounces red bulls and I could sleep like a baby.

[08:01:58] You have that?

[08:02:00] Um, well, uh, I had four twenty ounce red bulls.

[08:02:07] Yeah, no, but that's not necessarily a good thing because then you don't have the energy from that, surely.

[08:02:13] Uh, yeah, uh, do you guys remember when I was like, I had a light behind my sofa and then I pushed the sofa back and the, you know, one of those like round Ikea lights?

[08:02:25] I had one of them and then I pushed the sofa back and it smashed. I said that like a month ago.

[08:02:31] Anyways, I put my blue blanket behind the sofa so it's like wrapped up in gloss

[08:02:36] and I guess a piece of gloss went on top of it and then as I got my blue blanket out it like smashed again

[08:02:48] Anyways

[08:02:50] Congrats on new world record in messing with your hair

[08:02:54] I have never seen anything like it

[08:02:56] You even used two hands from time to time

[08:02:59] I just I just

[08:03:03] Triggers me okay. I just I'd strictly and also it's like nice. It's like all nice and soft and stuff

[08:03:08] You know it's like stroking a pad

[08:03:11] But I'm not actually stroking a pattern just

[08:03:14] Stroking myself that's not good. I'm pictures in discord for proof of frog mommy

[08:03:19] Have a great night. You are my favorite goofball and once again hair looks great

[08:03:24] Good night, Liddy. It was very nice to see you today. I had lots of fun. My favorite girly pop. I appreciate you so so so so much

[08:03:35] Actually, I don't know if I want to see that actually

[08:03:38] Thank you

[08:03:40] Nellie's welcome. What's your mic?

[08:03:43] Thank you

[08:03:45] Thank you for the long stream

[08:03:47] I'm assuming late stream tomorrow lol have a good night and see you soon

[08:03:52] I would never, I would never ever ever be late. Never.

[08:04:05] Oh.

[08:04:12] Uh.

[08:04:15] Dad.

[08:04:19] Oh my gosh you're right, I was so clutching my hat.

[08:04:22] Um, well...

[08:04:25] Me, after I sit in the hot tub too long.

[08:04:28] That is true that, um, that if you like, sizzle in the bath too long, it's actually bad for you.

[08:04:35] Like, apparently it's really bad if you're like, if you're like, um, Fingies go wrinkly.

[08:04:40] Which is not very nice because I really like my Fingies going wrinkly.

[08:04:43] Are you planning a New Year's Eve stream?

[08:04:45] Oh my gosh, yes, I'm doing it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes. I'm doing a New Year's stream.

[08:04:50] And um, oh yeah, and um, do you see my little?

[08:04:54] Oh wait, I kind of covered them up with the light today.

[08:04:58] Look, I have the little.

[08:05:13] I made my little clay thing.

[08:05:15] So it's gonna be hard, like top chaffter and stuff.

[08:05:20] We're gonna like time it, but like exactly midnight 30 fast.

[08:05:28] So the little clay things and then I'm gonna,

[08:05:31] I still haven't really figured out

[08:05:32] how I'm gonna wrap them for the competition,

[08:05:35] but I will try really hard to not smash them.

[08:05:41] However, I may still, no I won't.

[08:05:44] Okay, they're gonna,

[08:05:45] surely they're gonna travel all around the world

[08:05:47] and they're not gonna be smashed.

[08:05:48] I think I'm gonna like bubble wrap them

[08:05:50] and put them in like a massive container.

[08:05:52] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes!

[08:05:54] 1000% New Year's Streams are like my favorite streams

[08:06:00] of the whole year, so, yes.

[08:06:04] Lydia, are you a vote on next-champ rework,

[08:06:09] kinda girly or vote on UK government?

[08:06:13] You know what?

[08:06:14] I don't think I'm ever gonna be able to vote,

[08:06:17] but at least for like a long hour time.

[08:06:20] Because I think, I'm proud of that, thank you, I'm not a dempere.

[08:06:25] Like, okay, so I've had one opportunity to vote, but I was in Australia, I think.

[08:06:33] So I was too young, the Prime Minister before last, right?

[08:06:38] And then last Prime Minister, I'm pretty sure I was in Australia.

[08:06:42] So I wasn't able to vote then.

[08:06:44] And then, um, and then now I'm gonna be in America

[08:06:49] and I'm not able to vote as an American

[08:06:52] because I'm not an American citizen,

[08:06:53] but am I able to vote in England?

[08:06:57] Yeah, but I'm actually never gonna be able to vote.

[08:07:00] So, um, yeah, yeah, I'd be like that.

[08:07:04] You can vote online.

[08:07:07] I've had a margin of some, I just have to.

[08:07:09] Actually, I think that's an conspiracy theory,

[08:07:11] I'm not gonna say that.

[08:07:12] anyways okay okay i will see you tomorrow um surely at 5 p.m on the dot um um today's been so nice

[08:07:32] and i'm full of goof juice like you know when you're full of goof juice well not necessarily

[08:07:38] But you know, you know, when you're full of caffeine and like you feel like you have energy

[08:07:47] but you also feel like you're gonna say the wrong thing on a live stream but you have

[08:08:01] people ready to clip and shit like like I feel like sometimes I like feel like I'm

[08:08:09] just not live but like obviously I'm like cuz I'm like going to you guys but

[08:08:17] like not live like like the intrusive thoughts are gonna win it actually I'm

[08:08:23] not gonna talk about what I feel like I'm accidentally gonna do but you know

[08:08:27] I mean, I'm a croc, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, like, like.

[08:08:43] Oh yeah, another hate thing that happens, okay?

[08:08:46] Bro, some people like to clip random moments, I think of their eyes sometimes.

[08:08:49] Thank you for an awesome stream.

[08:08:51] You make my day better.

[08:08:52] But like-

[08:08:53] Have a heavenly sleep.

[08:08:54] Okay, sometimes I see clips of me on TikTok.

[08:08:57] But like it starts and ends at a random point and it's like, it doesn't make any sense what I'm saying, and um...

[08:09:05] And um, like the comments are like, she said a whole lot of nothing.

[08:09:10] So you're gonna dream with us is what you're saying. It's okay, I give you permission to dream with us, huh?

[08:09:17] Thank you, E.P.

[08:09:19] I appreciate it. Okay, we're all gonna dream tonight about...

[08:09:23] out the Lydia V. P. Cromart, okay? And it's gonna- and it's gonna come slowly towards

[08:09:32] you every time you close your eyes, okay? This Amort is just gonna be, like, coming

[08:09:36] towards you gradually, like, um, did anyone watch Bok Dehu? Like, it was, like, scary,

[08:09:41] like, full and angel episodes, right? Okay? And it, like, gradually comes towards you,

[08:09:44] and then if you close your eyes and ask, then it's gonna muddy you. That's a dream

[08:09:49] about that tonight. And then we're gonna wake up and we're gonna be so grateful

[08:09:54] that we're not dead and that Lady Beaker is not actually haunting us.

[08:10:03] Okay I'm gonna use the bed now. I love you guys very very much.

[08:10:09] Realistically I'm not gonna order food right now.

[08:10:14] I had 300 grams of macrol and a salad I was gonna say I don't know how I'm alive

[08:10:24] right now I mean yes yes yes I'm very privileged there are some people in the

[08:10:29] world that have last but let's just say it's not enough to maintain the fat

[08:10:34] amount of muscle mass that I currently have on my body it takes a lot of

[08:10:40] protein to maintain this um no I'm gonna stop my luxury team okay yeah I love you

[08:10:51] guys very much I will see tomorrow

[08:10:56] oh my gosh wait hold on did anyone else do this good night sleep tight don't

[08:11:04] let the bad bugs bite see you in the morning love you what should I dream

[08:11:09] about Lydia I think tonight that you should dream about becoming a politician

[08:11:20] okay good night love you love you okay okay I'll see you on this but right now

[08:11:27] like right now like I'm not saying goodbye I'm just saying this but okay