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dog man dog man. I'll start with you.
We had an amazing day a couple of days ago,
and of course we had some incredible action yesterday.
I mean, what did you think of what went down yesterday?
I mean, I was in awe.
I mean, there were so many different things.
A standout for me, I believe, was the the spawn camp,
the spawn hole, one of the first teams today
that is competing for five minutes
is crazy on Central Park.
But I mean, really at the end of the day,
my overall thoughts that I'm curious
about chip's take on this too,
is that I can't believe that it's the preseason.
I mean like the fact that we're still this early on and they ignite, you know, overarching macro scheme of things is exciting.
And I just can't wait for it today. Yeah, there's so much more coming, right?
I mean, again, there's still options for roster mania as well, but the teams have been so tight.
It's any given day for any given team today is very much a make or break it, right?
Gaskin, it's teams can go through right now to the playoffs or lose everything in these matches today.
So there's a lot on the line. Yeah, I think there'll be a lot of teams biting their nails,
the team. They're going to
be able to get into the
preseason, hoping that other
teams lose and maybe they can
scrape their way through to
playoffs, or will they be sent
home eliminated nice and
early here in preseason? Well,
this is these preseason
schedule. Of course, we are
currently amidst the group
stages, but that is going to
end right here right now
today before we progress into
playoffs. Remember only eight
teams will progress from the
10 that we have in preseason
at the moment from the 12
the game. I'm going to go
back to the main part before we
move forward, of course, into
the actual main season, which I
cannot wait for, but it has been
so juicy thus far. Now remember
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done. They've been so good
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playing for. What is part of the Marvel rivals ignite preseason while the prize pool has been pretty
insane, especially for a preseason dogman. I mean 50,000 USD in total. I could only dream that I was
competing for this back when I was playing. Yeah, this is a big chunk of change for all these guys.
I mean, especially as the team's moving up from MRC, you know, on top of the fact that
there's a lot of other squads getting salary now in the partner teams and, you know,
you know, with all the new skins, the eSports skins as well coming alongside with a dead pool in game. I mean, yeah, it's awesome. $50,000 in 16, like you mentioned for first place, dude. So 50k just for the preseason is kind of nuts.
It's absolutely nuts. And it's only get bigger and better as we move forward through the seasons as well. And I cannot wait for it. Now, in terms of map pool, of course, we have plenty of maps as new maps that are being added constantly throughout the game ship. I know you have your favorites.
I know we've seen some played a little bit more than others so far in preseason.
What are you expecting today? What do you think of the map pool at the moment?
You know what? I love the map pool without a doubt. I want to see more Indresill,
but that's just me being a little bit selfish. One of my favorite maps and teams just aren't
electing to run a lot of interest. So we've seen a lot of Midtown Central Park, which you know,
I love those maps as well. I'm not going to lie to you. Domination across the board
is a game mode that I personally favor. So you know what? We're seeing a lot of fun,
exciting stuff. I just think that these, you know, these early spawn hold triple,
triple triple comps are fun to
watch. So looking forward to
seeing more of that. Well, if
you're not familiar with Marvel
rivals, competitive and ignite
in general, we have an
interesting system that you
might not have necessarily seen
if you are lower ranks. We have
the band and the lock scenario
where a lot of our players will
get the chance to get rid of
heroes or protect heroes that
they may be wanting on their
team, which is a very
important phase in competitive
Marvel rivals. Dog. I mean,
this is something that a lot
it comes to bands and locks and knowing how to target enemies and what to protect for your own sake.
Yeah it's as you mentioned we have a lot of new players joining us so welcome if you're coming from
the more casual side of marble rivals and maybe dipping your toes into competitive for the
first time but yeah I guess we have the band and lock system which is a 10 step system
in which if you just follow it by the numbers it's pretty simple right it may look
complicated but at the very first step both teams band at the same time and then it becomes a
secret it's a little bit where the third or the team on the top will go for the band or sorry
the team on the bottom will go for the protect first and then the team gets a choice to band
against that just for the other squad so it's four specific bands for both teams at the end
of the day right so like you mentioned there's a lot of sort of theory crafting that goes
into it I've seen a lot of already memes kind of go into people you know in the coaching
team. We've seen a lot of
teams that have been
engaging staffs of a lot of
teams being maybe not the best
drafters, but sometimes it's
hindsight, right? And the best
the best the sort of the best
strategy and the best players
are always the most flexible
from what we've seen so far,
so you have to maybe slot in
the correct choices. But
yeah, it's a lot of fun so
far with the band and lock
system that's taking place
in ignite, which is
different than MRC's global
band system. Certainly has
to succeed. But this is the
lay of the land and how the
teams are ranked up in each
group at the moment, starting
us off with group A. Obviously
ship. We've seen SG absolutely
dominate, but there is still
everything to play for for
everyone else in this group.
Yeah, I think one of the cool
things to note is the team
that's on top there was swamp
lost a map to fly at the
bottom yesterday. We talked
about how crazy this
bracket is. This group is in
just the Americas region in
So it's just so tight in it,
even though it looks so
separated here, Swap, NRG, 100
thieves, sentinels, cap arrows.
All of these teams have talent.
We're looking forward to seeing
who actually makes it through.
There's definitely a world where
we could end up with a three
way tie today, but we'll see
whether that happens and we'll
work out if it does. Now in
terms of Group B here, dog, it's
a little bit more solidified.
TLC already qualified SSG, YWL,
all three of those teams are
three teams.
All three of those teams are through to playoffs, but with TSM, Lunex and Nightmare all to play for here
Yeah, I think that like you mentioned team liquid city dollar the very top
They've solidified themselves as that number one team probably in the entire region alongside swamp gaming so far
But I think SSG is also a pretty
Solid choice in their second spot. I would say like yeah
We lost I would say has looked a little bit more uncomfortable as of late
And that's only because of, you know, the fact they played against SSG who looked so strong.
So I think it really just goes, you know, Team Liquid said they'll probably solid top.
Maybe we go SSG. I blocked in that second spot, depending on how things go today versus Lunex, obviously.
But then after that, I think, like you mentioned, that bottom three spots, those three deciding matches to see who makes it into the playoffs,
that's a big deal and we're going to already see one of those deciding matches happen in the very first one of the day, dude.
So exciting stuff moving forward for all those teams in the next round
Exactly our first match of the day is going to be nightmare versus TSM
It's as simple as if you win your through for TSM
But for nightmare they have to win and then hope results go their way elsewhere again
We can go into that a little bit later
But this is today's matches if you're a fan of any of these teams make sure you tune in at that exact moment
But of course, why wouldn't you watch every single match here today?
Because they're all going to be incredible.
Nightmare TSM, 100 Thieves, CR, TLC versus YWL,
Sen versus NRG, and then SSG versus Lunex.
Every match has a reason to watch as well.
Even if teams are through, they will still be competing for seed.
And seeding is going to be very important once we get into that bracket stage,
because you might want to try and avoid the likes of Swamp Gaming, for example.
maybe you don't want to play TLC in the initial stage of the bracket.
Because, shit, when you look at these matches,
I mean, there's a lot of pressure on some of these teams here today.
I know there are some teams have already played all of their games,
but now this is your last chance to try and get into playoffs.
Yeah, I mean, just reiterating what you guys are saying,
it's there's so much on the line today alone.
This is the day that decides if you make it into these playoff,
these next series, the pre-S were in pre-season,
but you want to make the playoffs.
You want to get that cash.
You want to get the notoriety.
You want to prove that you're a strong team.
There's still so much on the line for these teams in trying to build themselves and get confident and I'm going to be honest
I'm not even sure who I would want to go against at this point because everybody has shown up in some fashion or another
And I think speaking of showing up
TSM versus nightmare off the rip here TSM if they are able to take this moving forward into the playoffs
That is a huge game one to start off with
But as we do start off with it of course for nightmare
It's a slightly different situation for them
They have to beat TSM and then they would need Lunex to lose against SSG in the final match of the day, which, I mean, not a bad situation to put yourself in.
SSG have looked fantastic so far, dog, but at the same time, it's never nice not to have destiny in your own hands, but first and foremost, they just have to focus on trying to win this match up.
What's your initial thoughts on TSM versus nightmare?
I mean, my initial thoughts are, you know, this is a match made in heaven, right?
is because of everything that's happened throughout the tournament. These teams have sort of been
very similar to each other. I think they both had expectations to get to that top four slot to
make it to the next round. And the fact that, you know, potentially one of them is going to be
out, maybe Lunex if they were to beat SSG, that would be huge. For me, it feels like it's a tale
of, for Nightmare, beating themselves. Like this team is always a very good team, you know,
had very high expectations, especially with all the spring bucks and stuff, the weeks leading
into the group stages.
But realistically after this patch,
something's just not been going right.
It's almost like they play down to the levels
of their opponents.
Like they definitely have the talent to succeed,
but I mean, shit, what do you think, dude?
Like this team feels like they should be
a lot better than they are right now.
Like this team shouldn't be winless
throughout this entire group stage, right?
Yeah, I mean, I think you said exactly
what I was thinking and saying yesterday is
they play down to whoever they're playing
and they don't always necessarily play up to the level
they're going against. Sometimes they do and they look great and I think they're a very solid team
that is willing to play some of this dive stuff that looks strong right now. I just think they need
the mental confidence to move forward. They just haven't had the chance to get it yet,
so they're still playing down to this level that I just don't, you know, I don't see them
succeeding and I know they have the ability to and I want to see something different today
for sure. And obviously, there's going to be a lot of eyes on nightmare, especially after,
you know, the interview that we saw yesterday as well, a little bit of controversy, I'm sure,
but also they want to make up for that. They want to show what they are made of here
the game, but it's not going to
be a good idea to play in this
matchup and prove everyone wrong
because even though it feels
like a Hail Mary right now. There
is a real opportunity nightmare
could still get through to
playoffs, which would be crazy
considering what their record
would look like, but definitely a
possibility. If you had to
pick up one player here, dog.
Who do you think is the player
to watch on nightmare? I mean,
for me, I would usually say
vision just because of what
I think that, you know, a lot of people maybe has let have said the back line needs a little bit of work for nightmare side.
But generally, I've been pretty impressed with gears game play.
I think he's been good and also on their bench, too.
Like if they were to subsmash it and stuff, too, I wouldn't be opposed,
considering how we've seen him in the past when he was on dark zero.
You know, I think this is a good squad across the board.
But for me, I think skiers probably going to have a solid game.
And if I want a player to maybe improve after the previous games,
have to be dinks and I love that guy I think he's been good throughout his career but just
something ain't clicking and unfortunately uh this team just needs to step up and maybe that they
like you mentioned because they have those chances to get in because it's maybe um they're
you know win and get in situation if lunax loses or later you gotta feel somewhat confident and
it's kind of goes back to shib's point where like we just need to see something out of them in
terms of that confidence level um and for me it starts with things zero and four at the moment
and of course, we've seen them win domination and then go on to lose multiple matches.
Can they make up for it here today?
Now, on the flip side, we have TSM ship and they, for them, it's simple.
They just have to beat nightmare and then they are through.
They don't have to worry about anyone else's games.
How are you feeling about TSM?
And similarly, anyone you're looking out for to be the key player here?
Yeah, TSM as a whole has looked better for me.
And the only hiccup, I would say, is what we saw yesterday at that spawn hold against.
Yeah, we lost.
We lost just holding them there after cap and point one on I believe Central Park
It was just a tough look and it looked like they could not find their footing this team
I've seen success and growth from a lot of different players
I think Cal is really coming into his own as a strategist player who's more traditionally known as a duelist
Starting to get a lot of finals and a ton of healing at the same time really valuable there
We've all known the gulk the gantt is from gale
I think gale is an incredibly strong player right alongside bedtime story the front line looks great too with Gilbert new
I mean, it's just like, you know,
it's just like, you know,
it's just like, you know,
you know, you know, you, uh,
Gilbert noodle, excuse me and
guru pizza on the back line is
well, this whole team's got
talent. I just want to see them
now show it because yeah, we
lost for that map. For me. It
was it was a tough watch. And
dog. Now we're into kind of
the latest patch. We know now
how things are working out. We
saw the white Fox buff. For
example, we were wondering how
that would change things is
the met are going to shift
slightly. Now that we've
kind of got an idea of how
they want to approach things
now here. Yeah probably I mean
I think we probably go we go
back to that the gambit being
as good as it has been. You
know I think we probably
banned that most of the time.
And I think a big surprise
for me is more players not
picking up the rogue and stuff
just because we saw it
towards the second week with
rogue and gambit getting
through in a lot of these
band phases and some teams
not even hoping to play it.
That's been a bit of a
surprise. Like I feel like
just how strong that
the character has been. Um,
it's just insane just because
like I always thought vanpool
like was really good and in sort
of server admin. But honestly,
as of this week, whenever you
have gambit a road getting
through that is something that
it feels bad to pass up on.
Well, ship, we're gonna head
over to celestial husk first
to kick us off with nightmare
and TSM as I've already
alluded to. We know that
nightmare have been very
successful on domination. Do you
think we might see an early
nightmare lead here? Yeah,
number definitely has the
potential to take us home.
they love that more divey style.
And I think, honestly,
Celestial Husk plays great for that.
I think there's a lot of stall potential, too,
on point, which they do a good job of.
Keep your eyes out for portal plays
off of the back of strategy stalls
to get there and just stall, stall, stall.
Get the point early, hold to that 70%
win one more fight and it is game.
And they've done it before and then they've crumbled.
I think they need to get an early win here
for the side of nightmare in order for them
to kind of put that leg up, feel confident
and move forward.
But for the side of TSM, if they get this win early,
I think it might be in the back for them.
We have seen TSM already lose once on Celestial Husk so far this preseason, so perhaps that is going to be a reason why we might see it happening here.
I think TSM maybe got to be a little bit worried about nightmare here, but the first matchup is just about ready.
It's TSM versus nightmare and to take us away. We've got Dogman. We've got ship. Guys, crush it.
Oh, reunited and it feels so good, brother. We are back at it once again.
And doggie feels good to be out here with you, my friend, as we start up the
banning phase.
Yes, sir.
Good to be back.
Good to see.
Honestly, the last game, too, of the group stages is exciting to get back to it, right?
And the fact this preseason has been so action packed and immediately off the
rip, we get to see the difference of opinion between Nightmere and TSM going
for the vision.
We'll get that one-sided elsa mismatch.
for TSM, giving that gamb
like, ship, what do you th
match up into nightmare?
good visions has been on
it sometimes is okay, rig
you. I'm actually curious
very dependent on players
the numbers as to when g
comparison to Elsa, when
side with where it lies
has been a just of utmost
in this last or at least in yesterday.
So I'm looking forward to seeing, you know,
what that number looks like right now.
The lock-in of Gambit, obviously on the side of TSM
feeling comfortable there.
And then, you know, you have to do it, remove the rogue.
It's too strong with that team up.
Yeah, it kind of, it makes sense for, you know,
I think, I think Guru's the type of guy to play
a lot of that stuff too, maybe even Gilbert.
I mean, he's been so flexible,
but we immediately have the van pull
on the opposite side band,
but it is kind of interesting.
like I feel like when you go for that Elsa band and protect you kind of open yourself up to
maybe more diversity in terms of what the enemy could play whereas if you go for that gambit
band and protect like we know that you probably have to ban the rogue now the interesting thing
issue but i'm curious your take as we have the one sided vanpool come through the star lord okay
they're hovering it right now but i wanted to see what you thought about it because
i'm kind of falling out of the camp of permanent band star lord into the gambit stuff i don't
I don't know about you.
Yeah, I don't think it's a bad combination.
And we've seen teams tried around the punisher
without as much success.
But, dude, I think one point that you made
that I think is definitely worth reiterating
is when you do get the game,
but through Loki now has to be a priority band,
the same with Rogue.
And that really does just make your bands
far more traditional instead of just team-based.
And I think the teams that are finding
the most success in this tournament now
are now target banning specifically against
the enemy team and not just blanket banning,
which I think we might be seeing
a little bit here from Nightmare.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
cause like when we saw the
flight quest game yesterday
and we just you can't let
basket rogue generally and look
at that they're eliminated now
because of it. So going into it,
like you mentioned, the band's
bit more traditional for
Nightmare Side TSM, probably
a bit more specific, but this
will be a little bit of an
interesting matchup because
like it's the final to play
that Daredevil, visions gets
to play as Elsa and I don't
know, it's gonna be a good
matchup on Celestial Husker.
Very fun game one of the
dayship considering you know,
both these teams I think you
and gas set it up perfectly.
It's just like, you know, winning your in for TSM
for nightmare.
They still have to rely on Lunax and stuff,
but this match is probably the biggest
of the tournament for both teams.
There's a lot on the line here.
You can see what they are floating.
TSM is running that triple comp.
And I thought personally was one of their best comps
that run in the tournament.
They elected to not really try to make it happen
yesterday, keeping it more traditional.
I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like
in the nightmare.
And for nightmare side,
that Emma has definitely taken a step up
you see the emote here from Guru.
Gotta love that, but definitely taking
a step up in terms of finding wins and value.
I think struggled a little bit early on in the preseason.
So we'll see what that looks like now from the side of Mason.
Monster on that cap.
We know how strong cap is.
Yeah, captain's super good.
I know that you probably got a little bit of flack
on your on your TikToks when you're posting about cap.
It's actually quite good right now.
And people are like, no way, he's bad.
He's got lost the animation cancel.
But as you pointed out, cap is even stronger,
this patch than previous ones, right?
Yeah, especially at this level of play,
I think it's you know the animation canceled is one is definitely a fun thing to play with
But just the raw damage of having that extra damage on every auto without having to set up your melee shield throws
It just gives you the will and the ability to take out back line at any time instead of force set up
So we're gonna see what the team looks like here. Cal is going to be on the side of a gambit and the big game
We begin now Cal immediately
Are you kidding me able to find mace one number up here for TSM walking right through and showing why the gulk is such a
a threat 65 HP though dangerous and I do believe gets knocked out there back to
Bruce Banner form so the trade comes through but pizza says not up in here
goodbye to light and they are once again up a number traded back from vision
though and now they're even once again and Lee's for now while you see Gail
trying to go back in to that whole form. The amaze comes back with portal but
it's too late TSN's flame put the point but this is kind of traditional
so far we've seen some from TSN it was a good bubble from Guru from him
to block off the healing, but Vision still gets to go ham.
I mean, Vision's just getting KO after KO,
still free to get full impact, by the way.
So he's at that tier three Elsa form
that Shib is terrifying to play against.
Yeah, Elsa in such a good state right now,
even with that HP nerf from the last bash,
25 HP being removed there.
I think it's some of those break points more viable,
but you can see now, Nightmare,
that portal play actually really did work for Mace.
I thought it might have been premature
after the take of point there from TSM,
but it really did buy them the space
to be able to take that right back and now they're going to be up 28% to 12,
which would have been the fastest turnaround in terms of point capture.
We've seen yet vision and an off angle already has the guard trucks available.
Keep your eye out for that apex.
Predator light on the back line ready to engage out of guru.
He's in a dangerous spot now.
Drops backwards towards the team.
Out goes the boundary that's committed.
Clobbering time goes out from Gilbert.
Does that even get value?
Not quite enough inside of that boundary.
As now the boundary gets launched right back to the side of TSM.
Yeah, they're 82 base with the eye of a motor and we've seen big eyes before and it is enough to get rid of BTS again
Removing him, but Gail you mentioned the gold before
Unfortunately not able to get much done after the stradults are committed and they just get walked on here shib
So great work from nightmare they commit even more old commits after the fact
But it's kind of like it goes back down to the thing is they delay Gail's Hulk
You know so many stradults pretty much with the captain American stuff, right?
Yeah, and he's gonna have to jump off point at this point. That's brutal
That's a really good stagger that they're forcing here.
And that's the downside to playing Bruce on a map like this,
where they can stall you with some of the CC
from their side of skier, obviously, with a force physics.
So Ultimate is going to be slightly in the favorite TSM.
But Nightmare are looking really good on domination
as is tradition at this point.
A little bit of overcommitment on Ultimate's monster.
You're going to find BTS off the rip,
and that was a huge target, as BTS almost had all available.
What a play as now Guru goes down
and monster step it up in this moment.
All right, that was brutal.
I mean, does Stagger pick after Stagger pick?
I don't think I've seen BTS live like a live longer more than a few seconds.
It's been a really hard game so far as monsters, but he would do whatever he wants.
Nightmare, cap the map, excellent work on round one and chip like just to just kind of like analyze everything there.
I know I'm curious what you think, but because they're running the rocket raccoon and stuff, we've seen a lot more Phoenix.
Do you think that could be a viable switch up for TSM or maybe it goes back to the thing where they got spawn camped by Yahweh loss yesterday.
It looks like all competencies removed from this team.
I agree. I think TSM just didn't look like themselves there at all, but also on the other
side of the token, I think Niver look really solid. I saw a lot of good lanking avenues.
I think that map aligns itself to being a very flankable map and light was consistently
in the backline. You see there six in one, taking maybe some of those comments personally
trying to bounce back quickly. We honestly haven't seen a lot of rocket in this tournament.
Honestly, one of the first full showings of rocket in a map. And I think it's
not a bad idea. I agree. Phoenix is a good counter, right? If that wanted to come
into play, the BRB is massive, but Rocket does a good job in staying healthy when
there's guys on the line just kind of playing his own life and I think they're
kind of using that disadvantage but there really wasn't enough pressure to
even get on top of the rocket. No you're right yeah that's a lot of difference
that Nymear has put in in terms of the the play style today but coming into
it Shib my TSM do have that dialogue ultimate nothing to counter it in
terms of straddles and opposite side they go for that fast portal two on
the flank and let the games begin here as Guru starts a portal play this
very traditional for TSM usually trying to find some sort of crazy pick or kidnap potential
and they are starting heavy but escapes right there in that moment vision and a dangerous spot
gale just jumps right over unluckily but is still able to find mace there goes
a dance of the cutterfly walking into large rocks now gets launched oh but walks back
in with two so there but it was not guru goes down now as vision finds one i mean this is
crazy how are they not getting more out of the silo colton stuff regardless point obel's cap
They do commit the racing world flush too, but it's met by invisible boundary in nightmare
They're still touching the point eventually Gilbert's gonna fall on the side of TSM as well
So they have to give up so much space populate invisible boundary
But can they even live through with a point still gonna get the laid out with gold opens out?
Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about the boundary
I think it was to just stall as they do now have one end of working out in the end here light on the chase
The side of BTS is able to find that help back try to turn this around but lights is not up in here
able to find BTS now, heading back to point.
Convide a goal who should be out of at least monster form
for the moment, so is able to hold on.
But that's a retake again from Nightmare
after just a couple percentage points on TSM.
I mean, if I'm a TSM fan, I'm just
glad that BTS finally switched to Phoenix.
I mean, he was doing nothing on Psylocke.
And I don't think it's really player issue.
It's more that Psylocke, especially with the Mantis
against the Daredevil, is just such a one-sided matchup.
But immediately, Drew restarted off with the ultimate
as TSM looked to reclaim some point
and maybe try to counter this rocket wreck.
Yeah, I think they're kind of,
and I'm just playing their, you know,
play your own life composition.
It makes it very difficult to dive
with a solo dive like Syloc trying to make plays.
Vision, able to find BTS in that trade early on.
PizzaDemon in a low position
as Mace now gets one monster on the cow
and Nightmare have stepped up after yesterday
and look incredibly clean
with 42% and climbing on the point.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it's been pretty one-sided thus far.
ultimates coming up at least for TSM side into the next one delaying gulk again
This is the second time in a row pulled back by light and then skier too so adding insult to injury
He gets back into the whole form no way if he gets played again though. Oh, wait wait wait. Oh my goodness
On the right side. They all came back for gale to save him, but unfortunately they get wiped
That was dirty. Wow
What a play there from skier and vision with some insane comms finding virtually the entire team in that sweet of
ultimate skier not even forced to use that boundary nightmare looks refreshed
right now they've taken some of these losses personally and they want to make
it to the next stage and they're looking like they have a chance here TSM's
got to find their footing because right now they're looking lost yeah absolutely
it's been pretty brutal so far when they start with the gamut roll regional
frost but nightmare has reacted perfectly so far ship gales already on the
whole form too. Yeah more value to that BRP Jinx able to bring light back
after a utilization of ultimate from the van pool.
So that pick gets no value in their back on point.
Gale goes down.
The boundary stays up here through the side of TSM.
Gilbert now making the switch to Venom,
which I think is a smart play, at least for the stall
on point, and pretty aggro towards that back line.
Monster doing a great job just distracting the back line.
Guru able to find the light once more numbers up for TSM.
Can they take this back?
But 99% is a big hill to climb as bedtime and Guru
go down.
Knight there trying to stop this right now.
Portal play needs to be committed here for TSM.
And Peter just gets walked down by Maze,
Cowdus watching his teammate die.
Gilbert trades skier at the very least,
but he talked about a monster in Maze,
finding two, Gilbert to delay, waiting for that Portal play.
But they still have ultimate afterwards, Shave.
I mean, BTS is over to that dear devil as well.
It just feels like it's not done anything on this map.
Yeah, and that's a huge pick there for Maze
on a bedtime story, trying to get back on a point.
Alcohose commitment of the Sia and Light
is to let the devil out.
Overtime ticking down,
Nightmare fight 2 from vision and they might be able to win this decidedly 100% to 9.
Are you kidding me, nightmare?
Yeah, you got CC at the end, so Gale would not touch in that ultimate anymore and that
was beautiful so far from Nightmare.
Map wins, Celestial Husk goes there away in this best out of three when it matters most
like you said.
But if we're taking a look at, you know, how this team has performed on domination
ship, this is their best map type by far.
It's when we go to Convoy, when we go to Convergence that I'm a little bit
worried now TSM. I mean, especially if vision is going to pop off like he did in that series,
I'm going to be always worried for TSM. But regardless, like this is best. This is the best
case scenario for nightmare. They're always really solid on domination. It's just when we go to
Convoy convergence that I have a little bit questions for TSM. I just really am wondering,
you know, based on what we saw yesterday, should I wonder if their confidence is even
there, dude? Because I mean, BTS didn't even get a single final hit. And I don't want to
obviously because it's not just on him and especially since it's not their best
map type, but this looks like a team that is a shell of their former
selves. And I'm wondering if they can pass back after
the next match, but we will see in just a moment after we go to this break.
We'll see you guys for map number two.
I think it's going to be a
it's preseason and boy, oh boy, do we have a game on our hands here. TSM on the brink of elimination.
Remember, if they lose this matchup, they're done because that would mean either Nightmare or
Lunex would be able to progress through this group into playoffs. I mean, domination, we've always
known Nightmare is strong at it, dog, but this puts them at such an advantage now going into
maps two and maybe three. Absolutely. And they look to, you know, despite everything that's
happened to be maintaining their sort of mental right and that's what we talk
about a lot it's a mental game because it is esports at the end of the day and
you know I think that for TSM I mean just a brutal match overall and I really
want to see them rebound on Central Park is that their map pick we've seen
them play here yesterday too but shib I'm getting a little bit of flashbacks to
potentially not the best game versus yeah we lost yeah they had a really
solid point take and then just got stuffed before the streetspace even began. They could
not get brought a task or actually moving forward at all the cart there. So it was just
quite a tough look. And you know what, they just got to forget about it. But their backs
are truly against the wall. They need to step up. Both teams need to step up. Huge advantage
for nightmares. They will have map three should it go there and their favorite in
terms of their map choice. But TSM did not look like TSM in that domination at
you know, it's not going to
be the same at all. No not at
all. And I think now the
concern for me is. With your
back against the wall with the
pressure on how suddenly do you
deal with it? The only
advantage I think that TSM have
here dog is the fact that we've
seen nightmare in this position
three times and they've gone on
to lose the entire match. So I
think it TSM can definitely go
off of that. But you know
these players far better than
I do. Do you think TSM will
be feeling the pressure here
I thought that comes to my head as I hope they still care, you know, like at the end of the day, like a lot of people know these guys are content creators are coming in. They're very good, very high level eSport players to this team is, you know, historically good. Like back when they were Salaris, I think they've always competed at a high level.
just I wonder how they're feeling because like you know it's a simple situation to what you said about nightmare where you know you have to kind of bounce back you have to have that resilience.
But at the moment based on how the last map looked I wouldn't say so regardless I feel like the TSM of old the old Solaris team that I think would bounce back would play weird stuff they would do things like name or you know hella if they want to
a point, but the current version of TSM is in this weird sort of space where they'll play
anything. Now it's kind of like back on the original point that you said, Gask, like nine
years of team that plays down to their competition a little bit, and I wouldn't be surprised
that this is a close map because of it. Yeah, certainly expecting a closer game now. And
I hope it's going to be a closer game. Maybe we go to the four three maps, but that
means map two is ready. It's locked and loaded. Shep doc, take us away. All right,
let's get back into it. And I'll tell you what, the composition from nightmare
was very difficult to try to find a priority target on.
So they ended up turning it a little bit there
and trying to find light and did a few times.
But it's much more difficult to play a self-survivable comp
on defense in something like convergence,
because you are just going to target who's on point,
and that will kind of be the mentality of the team.
It kind of does shake up what they want to do here
for nightmares.
So we'll see what that looks like on attack.
It's a different story.
Definitely can still run that,
but it struggles a bit on defense.
But off the rip, nightmare will be attacking.
Okay, well, they immediately go for that Elsa ban off the rip due to well,
visions was popping the hell off last map.
It was kind of like what we saw out of every match so far, but this time they
actually won in, um, you know, there was an incredible stat line from visions.
That results in the game.
Protecting it at night and your side and the Loki ban on the opposite
spectrum, but you know, that probably means the game that protects come
through and ship.
We might have ourselves a mirror gambit composition for both teams.
that. Yeah, I don't think
that's a bad idea. It was a
big problem with some huge
ultimates in the last go
around. I like the company
were trying to run, but it
really did struggle into a
mean Elsa. So goodbye there
from the side of vision, who's
now floating at least for now
the DD and we're going to see
the locking of gambit, which
means immediately. They will
remove that road likely on
both sides that they're
feeling like the team can
run it. But again, it's
not necessarily fly. They
don't have this, so they
Yeah, I think there was another aspect of it was putting light on the Daredevil, TSM get that protect for bedtime story Star Lord at least with the Gambit.
Since that was banned out in the last map that makes sense. But yeah, I don't know, I think that is a good pickup, that is a good change considering light on the Daredevil looked very comfortable.
I think he was kind of doing pretty much everything in terms of countering what BTS was doing on siloq. So that enabled them a lot. But now they get the stalwart at the very least. That's going to allow the the vanpool band to come out on the opposite side.
As it looks like we have a bit of a pause going on in the band phase due to what I assume to be online technical difficulties as as it happens.
that. Yeah, it does happen
like that as we will welcome
gaskin back in, buddy. I think
a big takeaway there so far is
the fact that we will see BTS
on the Star Lord, which I do
think will help a lot with
that gambit combination. What
do you think of the role in
the band so far, buddy? Yeah,
it's pretty much traditional.
What we've been expecting.
What we've seen for the last
two days, really you keep
gambit if you can you get
rid of Elsa where you count
as well. It depends in as long
as Loki doesn't get through.
You shouldn't see any
shenanigans. I think bedtime
story on the star Lord very
important. We saw how
incredible bedtime story can
you can play when that style
of gets activated, especially
with the backup of the raging
royal flush. Real question for
me is like where you go here?
I wonder if it this is like a
tech pause or whether this is a
tactical pause from nightmare
perhaps trying to really figure
out how they want to go with
these bands because now that
you've seen the style of
protected and you've already
got rid of the rope. That
would be my question, dog, is
where you even go from here.
Yeah, I think that we probably
just try to ban out some of
the things that were a
problem on the last in the
in the last map. And well, really also what was a problem for us against other teams too.
So because we go for that, you know, Star Lord Protect on the opposite side for Nightmare,
you know, maybe it's go go into another duel list as well, since they went towards that
Daredevil. But since they don't have a Daredevil on TSN to side really, I mean, BTS and Cal really
haven't played it. We could even prioritize more vanguard again, you know, like maybe
if we're going to play more divey stuff again, make sure Mace, or make sure they don't get
that the Emma even and we haven't seen any bands over to that or you know we know that
Gale loves to play that Hulk maybe to be ban out that although that wasn't really an issue
for us in a problem to deal with.
So there's a lot of options and I think because of the last map and how it went because
of what we saw TSM's band phase sort of phase into I imagine nightmare really any option
they pick is going to be a good one and it's just up to the overall team play
at this point because I don't think they've had a bad draft so far.
I mean, it's surprising me a
little bit of we're seeing
Mantis just go unscathed as
well, considering some of the
players have been saying like
how important mantis can be to
those compositions. Do you
think that's more of a team
situation here that TSM and
nightmare aren't really into
playing trip strap, for
example, ship. Yeah, I think
that's definitely on the table.
I'm surprised about that
because we have seen Gale run
a strong mantis in the past.
I'm curious why maybe that
wasn't the case there in map
one, but yeah, I mean,
there's a lot of options
here. We might see the
mantis. We might see the
vanpool, which I don't
the last go around, but I think it's difficult to run vanpool into strategies
that don't necessarily need to aim to heal. I think, you know, obviously,
Invis is a good target, but does have that self shielding invisibility to try
to stay healthy as long as possible. But rocket, just keeping those right
clicks out can stay healthy and you dance with your Invis in the
back line. But if it poses something like a Luna, or even if one of those,
you know, shots misses, you're taking extra damage, it really does play
better into that. So maybe that's the case as to why they don't, you
know, they maybe won't end it out here.
Well, it looks like the Bands are back under the way the force has
continue to allow you to find gentlemen to continue your casting.
Thank you. Fine gaskin. Oh my goodness. The van pool comes out and gets protected
in band so that you get that one sided focus towards the the vanguards. Then
the star lord sort of mismatch comes to on the opposite side. But I like what
you pointed out. Shipper earlier, I think is the mantis stuff. I mean,
like, I think it's interesting because it's like you said, like, like Gale
obviously has a very good mantis. I think a lot of these players have a
good Mantis in general, because it's kind of relatively easy to
hear what the play sometimes, but it's very team oriented, I
guess, right? Because that was my worry when we saw bedtime
story on the sidewalk and stuff like it just feels like it's
missing that Mantis. It's missing Gail on the Mantis for
example, but it's just something and clicking, I guess with
that specific composition that is available because it's like
you said, it's so strong. But I guess if your teams can't
play it, I mean, you can't force it, right?
Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely something I don't think we're going to see a ton with the top sides of the bracket in terms of placement and seating if you allow Mantis and all trun through. I think that comp is super viable and strong right now. I'm surprised that that is the case. But you're right. I guess they're just not as confident on it. And that's totally okay. It's very much, you know, a team-based hero shooter where there are plenty of compositions that can absolutely work and the comp here is going to be running this gambit and very much trying to pocket the Star Lord for the side of TSM.
for the side of TSM or nightmare.
We're going to see what they elect to run.
I don't think vision.
Yeah, I was going to stay on the Iron Man there.
Something a little more traditional with a flank
from light and monsters going to be looking for the back line
flank with light on the vanpool.
And they switched it up, put visions back on the Phoenix.
We've seen a lot more Phoenix as of this last week.
But on Central Park, it's up to TSM, right?
Tournament hopes in the line here, Shib.
And they're on defense first.
Nightmare going to be on attack.
So TSM feeling more confident.
Their defensive push and hold where
Gilbert Noodle is going to be on that cap for the first time this series and let
the games begin right on top of skiers in a dangerous spot great damage there not
going to be enough to get the KO though looking backwards towards monster who is
trying to apply some pressure on the backline blight holding the height here
I will not be surprised if the he decides to flank around and go into
that strategist doorway very much a strategist like to run to but it's
kind of simple to understand where they're going to be and where they'll
retreat to at all times gale in a dangerous spot goes down quickly
Gilbert Noodle trying to stall for a bit, but goodbye, Gale from the side of light now looking upward towards that cap
was just trying to stall and doing just that distracting.
BTS in a bad spot as now goes down from white guru able to trade one on a maze through the chaos,
but the numbers still up here once more for nightmare.
I believe a port of play already needs to be committed and he talked about pulling out, you know,
maybe the name war and that is going to be the case.
Okay, good. I was going to say like I am just done seeing Gale on hold. Like I got to be honest.
like he's a good hulk player don't get me wrong but this team is not working
around at nightmare obviously have a prepared game playing around the hulk
everybody's focusing on him the rest of the team is forced away and yeah just
stop playing the hulk please we're going back over to TSM with guru onto the
Emma and this feels a little bit better for TSM TSM off the rip and I like
that mismatch too I like BTS versus light in the sidewalk dual I would
somewhat favor BTS into that now for nightmare I think their team plays a
little bit better I think visions on the Phoenix is always going to be
really gross and very difficult to deal with.
But like you said, Shib, I'd like Dale also going over to the
neighbor when it's up to me to fight with TSM, though.
They still have a full minute hold they have to do in second
phase now as an early in this boundary spot.
Yeah, I'm going to be honest.
Most of TSM's plan will have been nervous here.
If they're trying to take that early point to get on top of
point, you know, by where it initially begins, and it's
already free pushing right past them, they've
essentially switched spawns without having control of
point. And Mace is going to find a three piece, making
a quadra here.
Are you joking?
Nightmare looks refreshed and TSM is kind of on their heels.
They've got to bounce back and figure this out,
because Nightmare looks unstoppable right now.
Yeah, they used Invisional Lost Teamfight.
At least they used the N-Song and Furrano,
so we can use Gilbert Needlesolt as another stratus ultimate
just to help delay after the Raging World flushes pop.
They have 0.9 meters left to go.
Light commits to Scylox.
Dances to the butterflies against that strat ultimate,
so they get extra out, although VCS is down.
Yeah, a number comes through his vision.
They're able to take out Gale right now,
Looking for more here as as you have priority on point out goes a rage and
royal flush to the side of nightmare vision able to find pizza and once again
I believe nightmare is going to push this thing through quickly.
I'm not sure a portal play can be committed.
It cannot.
Are you kidding?
Look at the time on the clock.
Five minutes here for point three.
Wow nightmare.
Yeah.
Nightmare is just shredding through this map of the current moment.
TSM grasping at straws right now.
They just need to find some form of life.
I mean, Gale's going with the Star Lord now.
He was off of the Namor and the BTS still onto the Psylocke.
You know, I would maybe expect BTS to be on the Psylocke in stand,
or I mean, sorry, onto the Star Lord instead.
But regardless, they need to win at least a fight here.
Monster already starts off this fight early
with that Deadpool Ultimate.
Gale able to find light right now,
and that's going to be one,
as Vision's able to take out bedtime
during even the numbers just a little bit.
Gale has that legend available.
As Monster falls, gets a two piece,
but already the point at the staircase
with four minutes and 20 seconds on the clock.
Vision on a height, trying to hold.
But that's still at this point,
a slight alter vanishing for TSM,
but it's looking like Nymer just has to wait a few fights
and then they can heavily press Q
and walk this thing through.
Yeah, they trade out light up very least.
You know, I would like to see even BTS switch
to the Phoenix maybe or whatever,
but he comes over, follow through on divisions.
Maybe these fights string together will be good,
But again, they trade in a pretty heavy advantage.
Again, they lose two.
Yeah, honestly, this Emma pick here for Mace
has looked really good.
It's really shutting down a lot of this more brawly dive stuff.
This cap is struggling.
I think Emma does a really good job at marking cap
and can help that backline run out if they're ever stressed.
But right now, it doesn't look like they are too much.
As BTS is able to find one there,
there goes that galactic legend.
It's not combined at the moment,
as Cal does not have the Raging Royal Flush available.
It's not necessarily needed to be the case.
over dive didn't find states and that's a great initiation there now guru makes the switch over
to eminem action i like this decision as guru finds one they needed to change this comp up they're
doing just that sometimes it looks like a you know a bit of panic when they're switching this much
but sometimes it just is trying to find the right solution yeah good fight so far out of tsm i mean
they just keep catching light out that was the second time in a row they found light first
picked so either somebody has to help light take these off angles and it looks like monsters
going to do it this time around, but we just got to stop getting picked off in the middle of
really before fights even begin. A couple minutes have been taken up a clock here, the cart is still
sitting here on the stairs and again that's actually we're at a tasker, the god of squirrels,
for those who maybe are wondering what that is, but we see vision with a nice shot able to find
BTS. We heard yesterday in some of the interviews that right click on Phoenix is pretty much your
sole job, landing that sun gives so much value. Gale in a bad spot, they're very low on HP,
to be able to escape for a moment.
Like in a commit here and be out.
Wow, five to off the back of a huge ultimate.
The sciatic, they get a third coming in from vision
in a fourth now as the fifth goes down
and nightmare is now walking with two minutes and 20
to the very end of this map.
TSM does have Cal and Gilbert though.
I mean, if memory is smart,
I think they even go for like some early pressure
to force out a straddle or something
or even try to get old in the spa,
but they give TSM space.
I think that's a bit of a mistake.
Now they come out advanced for a bit late,
met by an N song inferno to help peel as well.
Lighting a very dangerous spot falls there
from a nice shield toss from Gilbert and Noodle.
And that is gonna be picked from Cal
and Gilbert wants more vision-finding pizza.
The ultimate advantage there for KSM did work out
as the reset comes through and Dinks jumps off map
for another fight coming up.
KSM does hold on to BTS Gilbert in that fight
and that is some good patience
which puts them at an ultimate advantage
in these next fights.
Yeah, sadly for Nightmare,
I mean they use a lot of ults,
But more importantly, they give space to TSM
to walk out of spawn as they now group up together
as a cohesive unit.
So realistically, they needed to get a little bit more
aggressive, maybe pull a page out of, yeah, we lost,
but go for that spawn camp.
But TSM have ultimates here.
Woman in 22 seconds left to go ship,
and they have ulti stew on the defense.
Yeah, I think a dance of the butterfly at the spawn door,
there would have been super valuable just to force them
to use something, or at least by the time for the cart
to move forward just a little bit more at scales.
to find one cow on to light for two.
Gilbert says three in bedtime.
Going to find four and five and the confidence is coming back here for TSM,
who has not needed to commit an ultimate in quite some time.
Gail, a barring Gail in that.
We'd be galactic legend, but still up heavily in all the advantage with 50 seconds on.
This is quite the hold here from TSM.
I like this TSM maybe changing pace on the high goal for that dance.
The butterflies really have to get follow up now here.
The choke though vision is getting the hard pocket.
Everybody tried to come over here, but they didn't get anything else out.
else out. Nobody else was ready for that dive. Maybe if Gil was more in more
position, they could have gotten some old south or ko's, but it's good job of
nightmare to bounce that back and forth and play safe to keep the invisible
boundary for this upcoming fight. Looking for the first initial pick here if
you can find one in the neutral team at a heavy advantage. TSM holding on to
Gilbert with that freedom charge is also a great ultimate for this
situation. Monster on the back line forces out one as pizza needs to use
that boundary. Calibri to find light though in the mix of this then
diagram that is boundaries is very valuable here for TSM. As we are heading to an overtime
situation Gale finds another on a monster. Will TSM be able to hold this five minute
clutch? They are stepping back into their shoes but Scare takes out BTS, a number back in
their favor. Pizza with some insane damage off the back of the front line. Pizza finds
one on a maze. Gilbert on the dig scale. On the vision the portal needs to come
through. Will it get here in time? I'm not sure it will. It does not. What a hold
by TSM. Yeah, excellent hold by them for sure.
Both teams to me right now should look like they're a little bit slow in terms
of making maneuvers first. Like the best teams we've seen so far
through the tournament have been decisive really fast with their movements.
Both teams you can see are a little bit of a step behind those other squads.
Now for Nightmare, realistically that was almost good.
It was just so many times we saw Monster on those like at least at the end
the very super log flank.
And even before, an excellent switch up for TSM
was to focus him, right?
Like they would get up that tall early
to get Monsters E out and you hear a lot of these pros
talk about how Deadpool is super easy to KO
after he uses that cooldown, right?
So with that, they've just found Monster every single fight
and he just had a rough performance after third phase.
Yeah, it's surprising to see how valuable
some of this just backline peels.
But I mean, I feel like VanPool has kind of been known
as just like the leader of the backline
But they're doing a really good job playing off each other
and not worrying too much, always having an answer
when it's, when they be, I would say.
But TSM, I mean, honestly, from what I'm seeing
from both these teams is they just started off
for just a ton of nerves.
I think nightmare looks more confident off the rip,
obviously TSM has not quite looked like themselves
until that final point.
They started to figure things out.
I like this switch and comp as they're keeping it
more consistent right now.
I think Cal did a good job there in the back line.
Guru switch was very valuable.
We saw some kicks there from pizza,
even on that end, which was solid.
Didn't go down one time to some of those alts
from the side of van pool.
They're locking back in, but can Knightner shut this down and end the hopes and dreams
of TSM fans or will TSM bounce back in like it has gone off on the Spidey?
Yeah I like it.
We'll see how it goes throughout, but it is a very difference in opinion too.
Like I bet you TSM's, you know, a lot of their vocalization, a lot of their leaders
comes from the back line too, but now Cal joined the team and it's kind of the
opposite for Knightner with Mace on that front line.
While they set up at that choke point, maybe make sure TSM doesn't get through
easily.
already getting pressured into this back room.
Excellent job to disengage it and bunker up
for the strategy itself.
Wow, that was disgusting by Vision able to find BTS
in the air like that with one clean combination.
Vision's aim next to none here
as we are going to see Monster chasing Gilbert
on the high side, not going to have any answers
and does go down.
Monster fighting one, but Guru also finding light
in the chaos.
Very low shield here for Monster
who's going to commit towards that backline.
Gale is on the off angle,
but Vision has caught that off angle
and is trying to hit the lead button
and does just that.
vision. Once again, looking good. Yeah, he makes you look easy. You know, plays it slow
on the inside, finds the right target to focus, and they're finding these daggers.
Pete's on the left side. Nice job, though, to get out with one HP.
Regardless, target focused by TSM. They're still kind of in this five building.
Shroudled's early, but nightmare. I mean, they're coming up in their own invisible
boundary available. They could get a good fight early before TSM has Shroudled's.
Here, I was gonna say that corner that we're holding Pete's and Cal there, they
stayed healthy for a very long time. I was surprised to see that great patty
but light able to find a window right there and take out Cal in the back line as Mace is able to take out BTS and
TSM are struggling right now on this attack. Good maneuvering here by Nightmare's.
Galebo does get a trade onto Light trying to even the numbers just a little bit and the straps are back and there's the commitment.
Out goes the raging Royal Flush. It's gonna be matched right back. Who gets more value?
The first pick is very valuable as Mace will not have this Meteor M.
Shields go up into the sky looking towards the back line. Who will be the first to go down?
No one quite yet as everybody's just dancing out goes the boundary TSM now so holding up with also vantage
Get a huge pick
The side of vision into Cal throughout the chaos
Yeah, this keeps happening though in this right side angle beach. Yes. It's one be one envisions and getting absolutely
Do like just absolutely just smoke like it's not even fair like in the meantime though
Opposites out of the map. Do you have gales ultimate committed follow up there by Gilbert?
So they leave BTS behind and are already two ticks on
my goodness and you talk about it to Leepa and that combination right there was
obscene from the side of Monster who's gonna head back to the point and stay
healthy but oh no they didn't touch as TSM takes that for free that was a
miscommunication jumping off point in that moment as the team did not engage
enough and that is all comms based right there you know not necessarily
well done by TSM I like what they were doing but just a huge miss there
from nightmare yeah I mean it's not a monster I think because he has to go
back into spawn to get healthy.
I think that makes sense.
Maybe it's on someone else to touch for sure.
Three minutes and 30 seconds left to go.
This is almost as good as the second phase
was for nine years attacked.
Obviously a lot more time at the bank,
but three minutes and 30 is not a small amount of time.
Regardless, we need to see nine year maybe find
picks in the back line again.
I mean, they've been doing it so far,
following up on light.
Light able to find pizza and just doing
a consistent job of being annoying to that back line
as Spiderman does, but Cal makes him pay for it.
is able to find one as vision takes out BTS once again.
That trade there, vision has been dominating that back
and forth right now.
Guru still holding the frontline,
but they are going to have to drop back as a team.
Yeah, absolutely. Nice job to at least focus on visions.
But the big thing with visions is not finding these chaos
necessarily, it's just living.
Be able to dash back, get some kills from the strat.
It's not on the suppling fight, though.
We do have these at the best.
We want to go up the rest of them on the back line right
now, die for TSM.
Not need to outlive that.
Here goes the engagement once more.
BTS saw the siloq play coming in
From the side of vision tries to market the loss and the chaos out goes the region royal flush
Can they get value out of this old maze in a very tough spot when the lasers charged up like this able to find one
Make it to as gale gets the third
There's going to be a force from BTS and the cart is moving and now TSM is making this look like a game folks as they're
Pressing through towards point two
Well thinking about switching off of stuff here
They don't go through the choke point, but it's in distress old sir
sorry, two with Ults immediately probably. They do commit that gambit
ultimate at the very least on the inside of the can to find the Kale.
As vision's 9 HP does commit, the ultimate actually gets Kale.
Yeah, and just good patience. Their skier does not have to commit the
boundary, so does have an answer for Gale and Guru here. The best case
scenario here for the side of TSM is somehow Guru is able to
trance skier prior to that ultimate getting committed, while Gale uses
that galactic legend to find a few picks. Two minutes on though is
plenty of time, but Nightmare with a great retouch there.
Yeah, excellent for sure. Visions to read that on the right side to go aggressive before TSM do, but let's see if they don't get caught on the open here.
Mace doesn't have the meteor M for Gail on this defensive hold. They do have straddles to counter it, but are the group together?
Coulnads used to go for the far flank ship. This is a very interesting approach to it.
But let's see if it takes too long and if it's too telegraphed out of TSM.
Monster holding on to the freedom charge here with the invisible boundary available to Alkos.
production from guru not sure it lands too much value in that moment good movement there by nightmare to stay away
But there is going to be the galactic legend commitment from gale pizza demon does have that boundary available to the match
And it is going to be a little bit better
Which it just means a little bit later to last quite
You know a little bit longer as we see another pick come through or the chance at a pick
It doesn't actually land with a huge freedom charge to stall steer on the pizza light on the cow in nightmare once again
popping off in these fights and it's a one-minute situation well this is kind
of something you see out of a lot of teams that don't really know what they're
doing like TSM goes for that far-right flank for what reason what was the
purpose of that that took time off the bank if they have like a set strat if
they had a set play understand it but doing a flank just for the sake of
doing it is never worth it you have to set something up
unfortunately for them they didn't they pop gales ultimate at least he gets
ults out with monster and skier but they really to win the second fight
maybe get somebody caught out here aggressive forward.
Yeah, TSM is just playing comfort picks.
All right, excuse me, Nightmare,
and it seems to be working out for them
as we see a ton of commitment here at BTS.
Starting off, able to find one, Vincen, a bad spot in,
is gonna be found there from BTS,
heading back towards the point up to now.
Light, driving backwards, able to get that health pack.
You're gonna not elect to fight that quite yet
as the re-engage from monster and light
will come in at the same time.
The light has the spectacular spin available, folks.
Keep your eyes on the back line.
Can they stay healthy through the chaos here?
Mike gets hit gone from four, though, which is massive.
As Cal gets monster, two numbers up now,
and they are going to give them this point
as TSM is making this a final fight situation
as we got a minute 20 available.
Yeah, I mean, Nightmare seemed like the better team, right?
But towards the end, TSM pushed it in towards the cart.
Weren't set up for that dive with the Spider-Man.
Regardless, it almost feels like Nightmare at points
are clutching defeat out of the jaws of victory.
And with the minute left, they still can do it, right?
and can still get the whole but TSM.
Are they giving the space to set up Gilbert
and do the streets of the best?
That's a huge pick there from Mace, switching over,
obviously to try to counter Gale here,
that galactic ledger with the BDRM.
Saw that early run in point one,
and you're able to take out Cal.
Try to trade this just a little bit.
Even numbers, both of which going to be the gambit.
Mace again on the BTS and good aim here,
trying to find another to make it a little more
of a fight as the card is pushing forward,
heading towards those staircases.
How did they set up this upcoming fight, right?
Do they want to over commit?
If 35 seconds left to go, if they time this perfectly,
shit, this could be super awkward for TSM.
See how aggressive they go, because all of the old screw
immediately pops it off with the ML early,
but we'll be fine.
They'll bring off it just from some stall.
Just to buy some space in the car, it looks like.
Yeah, that's true.
It was enough value there.
I do like seeing some of that all, you know,
sometimes countering gambit as everybody will be charging
at you, so you can use that, you know,
psychedelic there.
as BTS able to find Dink, so how goes the boundary and pizza
pays for it?
That is huge as Skeeter takes out Guru.
Four seconds on, the clutch needs to happen here for TSM.
Nightmare off in advantage, finds another,
and another making a third here.
Nightmare trying to take this home
and makes it their best chance to move forward
in this preseason.
Guru with the portal, will it come in time?
It does not.
Nightmare, take home the W.
Oh my god.
That's insane, Shib.
Well, first of all, for Nightmare to get it done,
win it to oh huge congrats to them but now you know the next the game later on
today super interesting with Lou next right like this is this is the most
interesting outcome I think we could have had and well deserved MVP for visions
I think it's been this way throughout the tournament and it's definitely point
proven I think he's lived so much and done so much for this squad but a 2-0
over TSM is huge yeah I mean this team it's you know TSM shout out TSM
to be able to make it forward in this preseason.
We will be seeing them again.
A team with a ton of fans just a little bit on their heels today,
started to look like themselves there on map two,
at least towards the end, especially on point three,
but not quite enough as shout out to nightmare
who looked refreshed today,
looked like a more confident team,
a ton of success from vision with 20 finals
looking at those stats.
I mean, wow, Gaskin, what did you think of that?
Unbelievable, how on earth did nightmare pulled that off,
they were dead for rights and
somehow they pulled off this
victory to give themselves a
chance of still progressing
through to playoffs. And I tell
you what, Lunex will be happy as
well because it does give Lunex
the opportunity later against
SSG. But as you've already
alluded to, sadly, that will be
the end of the road for TSM
because even if it went down to
tiebreakers, their map records
are just not good enough
So, nightmare, get the job done, boys.
I mean, initial thought ship coming into this,
we knew that nightmare were good enough in domination,
but we didn't know how it was gonna go
once we moved into convoy and convergence.
What did you learn from that map that we just saw?
Because it looked like they were a different beast today.
Yeah, I think nightmare to start
of playing more comfort pigs.
They looked like they were just playing heroes
that they were more consistently playing in ladder
and had more time on and they just looked locked in.
They looked great on the Emma.
We saw Maze popping off the Emma.
like to switch there to try to counteract some of the play from Star Lord. We look over there
the magneto just just finding success with their compositions in an obviously vision
with 20 finals is absolutely obscene. And then dog I mean nightmare they give themselves the best
opportunity of course it isn't guaranteed yet they're going to be I'm sure watching very closely
to match five later on biting their nails but this is going to be a tough one for TSM of
course like eliminating another team essentially here. Where do they go from here? How do
they progress in terms of when we get into the main season?
I mean, there's a lot to work on.
I think that last game I would kind of not pay attention to
as a TSM fan a little bit just because of the fact that,
I mean, there was a lot of things
that just look disconnected, primarily BTS and his frontline.
I mean, it's been like this whole tournament
and a lot of that is meta dependent.
So like, at least they could look at it that way
where, you know, maybe this patch just wasn't theirs.
there's a lot of that sort of that can like they can maybe double double down on
if they want to but you probably got a pick pick and choose between gale and
BTS moving forward I think they're both great players but one of them they kind
of feel the same role almost they just feels awkward to have these two players
that feel very similar like characters you know and I think that they just
need to pick up another like dive player maybe a jit word type character
who could play a lot of these melee characters I would love that out of
I think that would really improve them by a decent margin.
Sure, but you were mentioning how good nightmare were and we get a chance to now chat to one
of the nightmare players right here, right now, and I think we've all been waiting for
it.
It is going to be an interview with Mace.
Mace, I'm sure you've got me now.
How are you feeling about that victory?
I'm sure you're on top of the world right now.
Absolutely good.
What's up, dogman?
How you doing?
Great, Mace.
I'll play security guard.
I'll play security guard. I'll play security guard. Don't worry.
I'll just be a little like a music creator to let you and Doc man.
Before you guys go on it, you are going to be a big SSG fan going into the rest of the day, I'm sure,
because I'm sure you've worked out yourself. If SSG beat Lunex, you guys can still progress.
How are you feeling about just everything at the moment?
I mean, overall, obviously it feels good to win for sure,
But I think overall like going into Ignite, there's been a lot of disappointments, you know, throwing throwing three back to back to back 1-0 leads, you know, it does take a little bit of the toll, especially like momentum, you know, wise.
We were pretty confident going into this but heartbreaking loss after heartbreaking loss after heartbreaking loss, it does get to you a little bit.
Just still trying to rally the troops, keep the mental high, do the best we can, and just play with what we got.
You know what I mean? So I think we did a good job there showing today that we can keep up.
And you know, if SSG does beat Lunax, and we get another chance at playoffs to show that we can change, I would love that.
Yep, you can only play what's in front of you. Alright, I'm going to let the dog off the leash now, so I apologize in advance.
What do you mean?
No, just say it, just say it. Take it away, bud.
Well, I don't know. I mean, like, Mace has been waiting for this interview.
So really, the floor is more, I'm going to reverse it. It's yours, dude.
You got the floor. What do you want to say, Mace?
Lay it all out there if you want, dude.
Listen, dogman. I mean, there's no more beef between us.
You backtracked everything on your stream.
Like, you apologized. You said, you know, like, I played pretty well.
I don't know you kind of defuse this situation before I even got here, you know, maybe if we hadn't even
You know clashing but I mean dogman backed out, you know what I mean? So it's just that's where we are
I got to be the bigger man. You know what I mean? I
Got a little bit of that. I don't know like yeah, the thing is like when we we watched that back like it was
Like you know like when we watch these games live action, you're just like damn this mace guy
He's just feeding his ass off like he's just getting in there, you know and then like watch it back
I'm like, okay wait he has a point
You know like I think the healing was a bit sus at points and it wasn't just him overextending
It's just disconnect and I think more so can I phrase this on on like to go back towards
What you have to say about this like because it's a team game because you know
There's like a lack of synergy at points like how do you fix that?
How do you fix like these huge holes in a meta that you obviously need to patch up before it's too late?
Because like you guys said, like on domination,
on these map types, you've been good,
but there's just that slight disconnect.
How do you go about even fixing that stuff
when a lot of this comes down to like team synergy issues?
I think the biggest problem we've had like overall,
like sure, like maybe one person
that plays mechanically, Vlad or whatever, right?
It's never just one person's fault.
I think overall as a team, we've struggled a lot
with trust and I think especially in a game like this,
I like even in Overwatch, I think this game requires
much, much more team play and much more trust in your team.
And there are just a lot of times and moments
where we would lose momentum and stop trusting each other,
especially against, yeah, we lost, especially against SSG.
There were a lot of times where we just lost trust.
And over the last week, that's kind of been our focus of,
like, OK, trust your teammates.
Trust them to do their job.
Don't make hero plays.
Don't try and 1v6 the enemy team, you know what I mean?
We're a team.
We're here.
Let's just play together and trust each other,
you know what I mean?
And that's just, you know, we worked a lot on that and I'm pretty proud of us.
Awesome. Awesome. First off, what's going on, buddy? It's good to see you.
Today you guys looked incredibly confident.
It looked like a totally different team, man. I got a main question.
I want to ask you is what was the game plan and the mentality?
Because you guys looked refreshed, you were playing comfort picks.
It just seemed like the team that we expected to see.
I mean, going into this, like our Wurma was like quite literally perfect.
I pride myself a little bit in that by banning the ELSA first and giving them gambit,
we knew for a fact that the Gulk was going to come out, the thing was going to come out,
the tank pool, like all those games were going to come out.
We even had a warm-up where the exact comp they were on a deep on domination, we played,
we prayed and we practiced it, we warmed up and that's why we were so confident is
because we knew exactly what they were going to play and same thing on Central Park.
We knew they were going to go Central Park, we knew they were going to go defense.
They do it every time.
And when teams are so predictable like that,
it's hard to not just plan for already counter-swapping them
before the game even starts.
So I think that was a really big advantage we had today.
It's just prep gap, having that preparation.
Obviously, all of our players played so well today.
Genuinely, we had a few hiccups, especially on Central Park.
But I think the prep gap on top of having all of our players
really motivated to win, motivated to play,
and trusting each other, that's the team that I want to see. You know what I mean?
Awesome. Thanks for your insight, buddy. I mean, very impressed with how you guys played today
with your back against the wall. Now you've got to watch on, Lunex versus SSG, who do you think
takes it with an honest thought? I mean, like going into Ignite, SSG was, I love, I have
loved a lot of people in SSG. Going into Ignite, SSG wasn't looking that good. We five-ohed
them many scrims back to back to back you know we're pretty confident going into our match with them I
think like I said we just lost momentum but SSG has been looking very strong like all of their
officials been looking very strong even against TLC their first match I think they looked pretty good
so I'm pretty confident in SSG winning I mean I'm not going to count Linux out I think
Linux is still a very good team with some good players like Tones and Reedus and and stuff like
like that, but only time will tell and the hate watching begins, you know what I mean?
Yes, it does. Get your SSG jersey on now by the bundle in the Muffler Rifle store. I
appreciate you coming on for the interview. Thank you so much, Mason Gratz, and we'll
see whether SSG can get that win for you. Take care, mate. Thank you. Thank you.
I appreciate you. Thanks, buddy.
I think he's right. You guys
defused the situation and at
the end of the day, you don't
call the space to space by
very well today deserves their
victory, and now they have to
watch on and hope that
space station get the win
because by my math, it would
mean that nightmare would go
through on the map record,
which would be pretty insane
to go through at one and four
here dogma. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, it's a little insane
and that's what happens when
you're on the map record,
which would be pretty
insane to go through at one
you're given time to chill, you know, like if this was if the interview happened
a day ago, you know, maybe that changes, like everybody clips on it said.
But, you know, if nightmare gets limited early, you know, maybe they're
hitting my line to back up their strategist line after the tournament.
Who knows what I'll see after this gas.
Yes, we will. All right.
Well, that's going to be our first match concluded here in preseason
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preseason. It's week two. It's
day three, and we've already had
one match already, and it was a
swift two Oh, in favor of
nightmare. But now we move our
attention to 100 thieves and
Cafe Rose. Now, ship. It's
pretty simple here for 100
thieves. If they win that they
are through and if Cafe Rose
lose, then they are out. Yeah,
I mean, that's the simple and
short of it, and 100 thieves
their own. It's similar to
what we saw there from nightmare.
They're starting to play more comfort picks.
Vinny on that group looked amazing yesterday.
This whole team is locking in.
They look decidedly better than San yesterday.
I'm just going to be honest.
They were dominating those matchups and, you know,
I wanted said to look better there.
I know they have the potential,
but a hundred thieves is now in the same boat
where I wanted them to look better
and they had the potential and they are doing that.
So just comes with time
and I'm looking forward to seeing how they perform here.
Speaking of hundred thieves, let's take a deeper dive.
Then I have a look at this roster.
It's been very interesting to see that ups
team to beat this preseason.
I think they were going to be
right up there at the top, but
they definitely started a little
bit slower than expected.
Everybody was with you than that,
like 100 themes. I think go
before the season definitely
seen as that top dog and then
have looked shaky, right? But
that's it. That's most of the
teams except swamp gaming and
team liquid Citadel. Those two
teams have been at the top,
whereas every other team has
had a glaring flaws like
for two teams, they were
going to be a little bit
more likely. But I think
For 100 thieves, they've been
sold in different things in different formats.
I think millennia is still one of the best
strats in the entire scene.
And then you've had self stepped it up, by the way,
as like that new up-and-comer.
Delena as well has kind of elevated into that star role
that I don't think we saw him sort of reach
until like maybe we're going all the way back
to MRC season zero when he was formerly known as aunt.
But this roster, I think that realistically,
the only downsides is sometimes
all like Vinny will go down because he's being focused
little bit too early and stuff and maybe Winnie's not fully in sync with millennia or
something but regardless this team can get better if they work on their
aggression I think and they're definitely on that way but they need to
kind of stream together a few good wins back to back and I think you guys
talked about it this is a very important matchup for them in this
story franchise. I think what was important that we saw from 100 thieves
yesterday as well as they finally got over that hump of domination they
got that domination win and I think now they can just move away from the
team. They're not going to
win the game. They're not
going to win the game. Oh, we
can't win. Dominations that
other teams seem to find
themselves in as well. Now as
we look at Cafe Rose here,
Shib. I mean, this is a team
that has a lot of pressure
with this game. As we've
mentioned, they have to win,
give themselves a chance to
move through as well. How
you feeling about them? They
tried a slightly different
strategy yesterday. We saw a
couple of off meta
selections from them. Yeah
Kathy Rose currently one and
three, but I don't think
that's an indication of how
strong this team is. They
have some really good diet
potential. We got to talk
started seeing teams target out certain bands to this team that kind of put them
in through them for a loop. I think across the board their back line is great.
Their vanguards are great. And even the duelists are playing very well. Pro
builders pulling out the Adams still finding some great success looks really
good on the hero if I'm being honest. But I just think as a whole Adam
compositions right now are just not as strong. And this is a team that
really likes to run it. So that's I think their biggest weakness. But as a
whole the team is very good. Yeah. And if they do find a victory here
win. It's going to be a
win. It's going to be a win
today and when to nil there is a
chance they go through via
tiebreakers. It gets pretty
complicated and we'll go into
them if it happens because I
think the nitty gritty of it. We
don't need to get into unless we
really get there. But dogman.
It's quite similar to the
nightmare situation Cafe
Rose. They want to get a win
here. Get it done in two and
then hope the results go their
way elsewhere. Essentially do
you think that takes the
pressure off. In a way that
to resign yourself to well,
we'll let fate decide at that point.
For sure it kind of comes down to
what I believe Vess has said in the
interviews for fly question stuff.
You know, because when you kind of
reach these situations where you know,
a lot of the fate is is out of
your hands and stuff, you just kind of.
You can play a little bit more free,
maybe like you just kind of don't
care as much in terms of the,
you know, negative press or anything like that.
You just play to your strengths
and I think Cafe Rose can do it.
And you know they definitely are already
in a great spot playing with
house money as in MRC team.
Well, burning to Charles is
where we're going to start
things off here. We've not seen
100 thieves win here yet in the
preseason. Cafe Rose there one
in one, so they have actually
found a victory on domination
here on burning to Charlie. I
think it's their only one. So
not really surprised. That's
where we're going to be
heading probably with their
selection. Shape, how you
feeling about burning to
Charlie? I know you are
questioning. You didn't feel
like we'd seen it enough
yesterday. Well, now you
get it prime and ready. Yeah,
exactly. I think British
Charles pretty solid for
a lot of height angles, off
angles and initiation points
and even some stuff to hide
behind. If you are playing
Venom where you can kind of do
that dance that you see in
Clint are sometimes and just
move, you know, wall running
essentially for days to stall
point. So has a ton of
potential for the side of
Cafe Rose. They can absolutely
step up here, but 100 Thieves
I'm sure they're going to run
tried and true picks. They
started stepping back into
what they felt comfortable
last season and it looked
really good or throughout
ignite. We'll see if it
matches up to dive and if
they can take this W home.
Yeah, I think that 100
Thieves is certainly
looking like the more comfortable
in the game. I think
that's a good point.
I think that's a good
that 100 thieves are certainly
looking like the more comfortable
team from what we've seen so far.
Maybe Cafe Rose is going to be
looking at this one saying it's
going to be a difficult game,
but they can only play what is
in front of them.
The players are ready.
The teams are ready.
It is time to jump into the first
map.
Then dogman chip.
Take us away.
All right, my friend, let's
get into it as we start up now
with the bands.
100 these Cafe Rose first
band at least floated for a
moment.
There was going to be the
Elsa wouldn't be a major
it looks like. Yeah, it's gonna be a mismatch once again. Last time the uh the gatherband came out on top. We'll see if that changes
Yeah, we have to see if if that mixes up the sort of outcome because I think it says gas pointed out
I mean not very traditionally a great domination team
Um, and then on burn the chala had but one on it yet
I mean they didn't even win it if we're going all the way back to grand finals into playoffs
They've not they didn't win a single burn of the chala there either and that was the old version of 100 thieves
where you would assume okay maybe with a little bit more players that are better
on domination we do better but regardless this is their time to come
back and it's as you guys talked about I mean these teams are evolving ever slow
so slowly in practice and in scrims so you know maybe they're doing better in
scrims on domination these days for cafe rose though I mean this is sort of a
win now situation for them and they're gonna lock that daredevil after
you know we can potentially have locked the Elsa considering how the gambit
that protect and ban have gone for 100 thieves.
And Lyric also for the side of Caperoses
had a ton of success on that van pull.
You can see the float right now.
I was gonna say, so you wouldn't be surprised
that that ban comes through.
The ban is through there for 100 thieves
so that won't be seen.
But yeah, I think they want to try to support
that dive style.
I'm surprised, and I don't think it's necessarily
the case.
Surprise, maybe we won't be seeing a Venom Banner lock
in this situation.
Maybe later on that will come into play.
The Mantis ban for the first time of today,
which again was quite the surprise
that Mantis was allowed through
and they didn't want to run it.
But it's all about comfort here.
under thieves don't want to see it though.
And let's see. I mean, this is the first time as well.
We've seen that also get hovered and given throughout.
You know, I mean, a good man.
This team in that cafe Rose loved to play triple
strategist and it's maybe it maybe goes back to what you
talked about earlier when we talked about this team ship.
Since cafe Rose want to play that on Warlock when maybe
you would assume this team would play like Ultron and stuff.
You try to force them onto a hero that maybe is not as meta,
right? Yeah, yeah, I think the early DD band is
something we've seen a couple times so far in the
It's not necessarily a bad decision by any means that the team is more comfortable on that dive and they do know how strong obviously the Lena is on that hero.
So, you know, that's going to be the immediate band focus for them.
And it said they're going to like to just try to put a ton of pressure on the back line and get to the back line as fast as possible.
But they do also now get that also through because the band didn't happen here.
The final band is going to be in visitor Manchester.
Not quite sure, but 100 things is showing their cards a little bit.
I do believe they want to try to run that Mantis Cop.
They might force them to ban it.
Let's see what they want to go for the band on the opposite side. It does okay. Yeah, it says you mentioned ship
We get to see that man to spend at the end. Well, I mean, this is a big deal
This is the most important band phase we've seen for either team right ship
So, you know, we get to see now what Kathy Rose could do with some of the best duelist in the game versus 100 thieves
Who focused on getting this game bit comp?
It backs against the wall once again much like game one 100 thieves needs this W to move forward and head
right in to our next stage of Ignite but again this is just the pre-season
folks teams are still adapting learning meta figuring out how to play together as
there's been a ton of roster mania but you know what team hasn't had too much
roster mania that is 100 thieves as Winnie and self and be the new
additions and both of which have been absolutely performing we're gonna see
Fox come out here from Hunter thieves sort of mouth on Berlin Cholo
Let's see if you know for a hundred things side
I feel like they can play well like you mentioned around the lineup playing that star role
But it's kind of like I think self has been playing solidly
Whenever we're gonna see him playing the daredevil and stuff
It's it's awesome
But it's women they play triple strat it is when they go over to the Ultron that I'm getting a little bit of
Questions for a hundred thieves but that also comes down to how is he how is up?
Vinny gonna do in that captain America role in that dive role after you know going from things like grew a little bit more stable in
in terms of anchoring down everything.
So also T-T-K and Vinny being together for so long
has been interesting.
And for Cafe Rose, this is a team on the come up.
So realistically house money, like we said,
not a lot of pressure on them,
which could allow them to play a lot more free.
Yeah, and Vinny also played a mean Venom
in Ignite Stage 1.
So I'm curious, electing to run cap a lot more
this season, actually, I haven't seen the Venom yet.
So I'd have just been pushed back in the bag
a little bit and allow cap to shine.
Positioning starts up here, 100 Bs in a really good spot.
trying to find that early pick on the Lyric.
A lot of cool downs forced out there.
The clap begins for Millenia trying to let a freeze
from downtown.
Doesn't seem to do that, but the priority on point is here.
TTK on that band pool.
I would say that's a ton of this so far,
able to find an early pick there on the Lyric
and start off getting some experience with that picture.
Yeah, great work to focus on the cap player
on the opposite side and play healthy, play safe.
It's a TT2 style, so there's not
going to be as much giddling for these vanguards
either as Millenia, clap down Pro Builder,
but use the dead pole to make this an easy fight
win for 100 thieves off of some excellent target focus against the 2 to 2 style.
Saki, you find one, but you're gonna get reset back to spawn.
The new changes came through Shib with the two instinct lost for him as well.
But honestly, you talk about, I mean, millennia, I think is one of the most underrated strats.
I know a lot of people talk about Cooper, talk about Nero, talk about Valentina,
but millennia doesn't get enough praise in my opinion.
I think it is one of the best strats in my personal favorite to watch in with America.
Yeah, millennia is great and not afraid to pull up the luna,
which we've seen from Cooper, those who are not afraid to land shots and get a ton of value on a hit scan
because you can just deal so much damage and just apply a ton of pressure.
And when you're running that triple-conf you want, traps that deal damage.
So, why are we seeing a lot less cloak at this level of play?
She does have that awesome terror cape, but outside of that her neutral fighting potential there,
excuse me, neutral fighting potential is not that good.
Self, immediately going to start up with a rage, able to find Pro Builder,
making a two-piece on the Lyric, and another good start here for 100 thieves.
46% in climbing as Vinny finds another, and 100 thieves have not missed a beat.
They're looking incredibly strong right now.
Yes, it's not looking good so far,
especially with the fact that we lost at their double.
We allowed that to get through an R side very early on,
and we can't even play it at the current moment.
So this has been brutal.
Just looking back at the draft phase,
and for 100 Thieves, they've got
to be feeling pretty happy about that fact going
through so far.
The next fight begins.
Altadvan is going to be in a slight favor for Caffe Rose,
but honestly not for long, as we will see four, almost
5 and 6 just off from self actually so keep it to 5 or 100 thieves there goes
so committed now for Winnie able to find respect instantly what a pit there are
cell finds wow Zongi and another self he talks about maybe not getting as much
value on the off-run as we've seen from some of these players but right now
getting four in these last two fights alone in terms of finals and 100
thieves at this point Kathy Rose has got to figure out something because they
can't even get there to commit these ultimates they're gonna portal
play to touch at least you have those holes that you mentioned but did
They get stunned out.
Looks like the answer is it did.
So job done for 100 Thieves.
You talked about a ship that was that was one side of those
dominance out of them completely different looking team
based on what we've seen so so far through the tournament.
Yeah, the weird position right there that we saw from the
side of Kathy Rose, they all had all and none of them
wanted to switch and they said, all right, let's just
commit map two and we have to win our first fight,
which it is heavily in their favor.
If you see the queues across the board here,
but you have a no commitment there on portal,
maybe just afraid because of the space that was owned
from 100 Thieves and that's the value of taking space once you've already
committed point you try to fight early don't allow them to portal make sure
they take damage on their way in burn cooldowns so you have an advantage in the
fight and it's just masterclass right now for 100 Thieves the only one going
down being self from that pick from Zanji. Yeah ace with 1 KO is not
exactly a sight that you want to see if you're on the opposition or if
you're on that team but you know that's the tough part when you play
the when you play the also when you don't get these flight wins back to
back-to-back you lose that instinct so fast now and Dylen is able to still match
him on the Phoenix which has been impressive too so this is their chance
to be talking about it they can take advantage no binds not going for a
portal play either so sticking on the Angela in the top parties I think this
is a somewhat worse map to for the silo so they really need to get it out in
early from Lengah with one of their duelist ultimates to set up maybe a
gloar trucks or something but they have so many things to work with if
100 things play perfectly sure you lose this but I mean there's so many
for a hundred cats, a brick out of your mouth.
Oh, that was dirty right there.
Good shots by Belenna, able to find Zanchi instantaneously
with some really good tracking in that fight.
And with that low sense, like we like to talk about in the past.
Come on.
Oh, no.
That's another cancel on the pro builder
who tried to commit the butterfly there.
And that is so much value.
Two alls down.
No value yet from the side of Cafe Rose.
100 thieves once again playing textbook
and just looking clean while doing it.
Wow.
And that's every old gun for cafe Rose. They finally get a KO though in the middle of their invisible boundary
But those were some gross shots. I got audibly sick by the shots at the Atlanta regardless that is Ultron's rage down
Nobiles commits the ultimate. They need to get chaos your ship
Doc should have threw up from the grossness his pro builders able to find one on the Lena
And there's gonna be more chase here Zanji able to take out millennia now
And that is a good start here for cafe Rose
But all of those choose did not get value instead
It's just the neutral for them and they're starting to get back into their own swing of things here
Hundred thieves will have altered vanishing this next fight though
They're gonna try at least to not over commit in this fight to ensure they can buy more time on point and defend with some of these cues
I mean I like the daredevil in this comp, but I think the Elsa is a great hero
She's definitely server admin at points
But with the nerves and stuff if it makes it a debatable question
You know you do you want to go over the daredevil to at least make this
Synergize a bit more with the dives you can help pro-builder out
And here goes the initiation.
Rage of Ultron, right on no bind.
It's goodbye.
Now much you can do about that.
Try to chase.
But instead, you're going to look forward.
Try to keep the team healthy.
Lyric goes under map.
And that is incredibly unfortunate timing there for that map break.
Usually, you see teams break that early, so they don't have to deal with it.
And I'm elected to do that there.
CTK applying so much pressure.
Calm, cool, and collected here with the van pull.
Like for those who maybe you don't know, you typically build the van hammer ultimate
for the range ultimate.
So you can apply pressure to the back line.
And from there you go to the AoE that you see him pop in a moment here.
The Eve on, when you're on keyboard, because it does apply damage reduction to your team,
a slight nerf on that over these last few patches.
But either way, very strong hero, DK playing to the max of the ability right now.
A ton of ult's available here for Thieves still.
Yeah, that was a rough fight.
Unfortunately, Ultron's rage was not matched by Meteor M.
Lyric didn't have it just yet.
But you can't lose fights just in Ultron's rage in that situation.
We have to commit something regardless.
Now all the old anti-inferno proactive play here.
Yeah, great answer there from respect though,
as Wendy now commits with the Fox.
What does the Fox say?
It says, I want a couple of KO's,
but it does not quite get those.
It's going to go back into form.
And again, you can get KO'd as a Fox,
and go right back into this form.
So you don't have to stress.
Kind of treat it like, oh, without any downsides.
You don't go back to Bruce Banner form.
And there's going to be a dance floor committed.
Out goes the freedom charge right back from the side of Vinny
to try to keep the team up, and they're up still.
On the high side, up on top there,
on top there is going to be, I believe, self-winning.
Delana, but they are dropping back down now.
Winnie folding this space, and the plant
is still being dominated by thieves.
92% as Delana gets another pick on a pro builder.
Do I see a two-piece?
I do, Delana.
It's insane right now trying to find a third.
The portal needs to go in.
99, and it does.
At least the touch comes through.
Oh my goodness.
I mean, you see shot after shot.
This guy looks so free.
Kind of like we saw at a millennia from,
or not millennia, Melio.
a flight quest before they go for the portal play ship but it ain't gonna happen.
Hundred thieves get it done. I'm surprised about that. I thought they had enough time
to get that portal through from the touch but I guess nobody was not able to
stall long enough. A hundred thieves have not missed a beat from yesterday.
They are locked in. Thieves are back in shape and they dominate that
domination. Yeah it was pretty pretty one-sided and it was quite interesting
the way they did it a fashion they did it too through the band phase and
And just with the Lenya popping off on the Phoenix, it was kind of free.
And, you know, for the opposition, for Cafe Rose, I feel like they have
done well with triple comps before.
But it's pretty interesting.
Should we just give up on the gambit, even though we're given it from a hundred
thieves side, we still played this, this back line.
That's pretty safe.
You allow the Lootis noted pop off and get as much damage down range.
And Cafe Rose just did not have an answer at any situation, man.
Like the best player they had was Zongi getting three finals.
But not even just him, the whole team,
it just had a hard time versus 100 Thieves comp.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I might be the first time we've seen a team
that locked Gambit didn't need to run it necessarily,
but either way, or, you know,
I mean, they did need to run it, if I'm being honest,
but either way, this is a tough look here for Cafe Rose.
Again, for those who maybe don't know,
they did lose a couple of players early on,
just for two, you know, age restrictions.
But the team is still very, you know, solid together.
They look great day one, struggling a little bit right now, but they can bounce back.
But outside of that 100 thieves again, incredible, seven finals efforts,
a ton of damage, T.T.K. not going down a single time the whole team performed.
Very impressive. I mean, I didn't really know what to expect going into this one.
I didn't know if we were going to see 100 thieves at their very best.
I guess after we saw the performance yesterday, we should have expected them
to be right up there, but it seemed like it was a bit of a one-sided affair.
Cafe Rose couldn't really keep up with just the aggression that we saw out of 100 T.
I don't know if it's going to get any better for Cafe Rose, which I think is my concern here,
dog. I mean, from what I've seen in that first map, there's nothing that suggests that Cafe Rose have what it takes to take down 100 thieves.
I know things change a lot now going into convoy or convergence. I mean, if you were Cafe Rose, if you were the coach of Cafe Rose, where would you rather go here?
Do you feel like convoy or convergence has a preference for them?
probably not I mean I like I like both realistically but not versus 100 thieves
that's the tough part I mean maybe you could say we go to a map like Moon or
something like the re saw 100 things struggle versus fly quest I suppose
something like that but regardless I feel like this team it's more so I'm
usually I'm the negative person here about this but I really do feel like
100 thieves is looking like old 100 things that we should have seen
earlier right like they seem a lot more comfortable in the meta maybe it was due to the meta shit that
they looked a little bit off but right now this hunter thieves team looks unbeatable and to be honest
like I don't know if I would give cap a rose much of a shot on this next map because if they're
gonna if they're gonna switch it up if we're gonna play comps like that and also you know
just the line of hit shots like that the team plays so well especially with Vinny really
just kind of living forever doing a lot on every hero he played I feel very comfortable in
team is so much better than
they looked last week in the
past couple weeks in general.
And she bit seems to be somewhat
of a pattern. I mean, if you
look at 100 thieves, you look at
fly quest teams that had
expectations to perform early
on, but struggled to begin with
didn't look like themselves, but
then started to find their
footing a little bit later on
here in preseason. Sadly, it
was far too late for fly
quest. What do you kind of
take that down to? Why do
you think these teams
struggled to begin with?
Like why are they taking
longer than others to adjust
to this matter?
Yeah, there's a lot of different reasons, right? Sometimes it's team synergy and
understanding and some of these teams, including 100 thieves, have been together
for a long time and they can just kind of understand how each other plays and
play off it naturally without worrying too much. But it's also an
understanding of the meta. Like you guys have touched on a little bit here as
we see Shinji Buuya coming up next, a little bit of change in pace here. And
I think that's what you need from the side of cap arrows to try to throw,
you know, a wrench into the cogs here. Try to get a W. But yeah,
understanding the meta and finding a way for your team to succeed around it.
We've seen teams lock in Ultron and not run out.
I think the Ultron backline triple comps
are really meta right now.
And self performing like that with six finals
almost getting up there to Delana
is an indication that 100 thieves can run meta.
And they can remove DD comps
and they can play aggro with cap.
And they have solutions.
They have answers for every aspect of the meta
but does rose.
Just a follow up on that dog as well.
I mean, does it worry you
with how long it's taken some of these teams
to adjust to the meta?
Obviously it's a very fast developing meta
in Marvel Rivals.
we get patches very regularly, seasons change,
and we are gonna see a lot of things
change some of these heroes.
Does that worry you with teams like 100 Thieves,
like FlyQuest, who took a little bit longer to adjust?
Yeah, maybe.
I mean, obviously for FlyQuest, it's brutal
because I mean, we can all agree.
I think now that we looked at week two FlyQuest,
I would have expected them to be
even in the running at this point, right?
Just based on how they've looked, you know,
they're the only team to really make Swamp sweat
to a degree on a map.
But regardless, it does feel,
I mean, I kind of want to agree with you.
I think it is a little worrisome,
but also from the flip side, I understand it
just because it is tough to develop into a patch
that just released a week and a half before the tournament.
Like this is obviously not just about Marvel levels,
Esports when a patch drops,
but you know, and obviously the players like to think it is
because they're the top 1, 1%,
or like pop 001%, sorry.
This, like it's the game is not just about us
competitive players all the time.
the game. You know, it's
really hard to get into the
game. It's tough to see that,
right? But you have to adapt.
You have to make those changes
and the teams that adapted the
fastest in terms of swamp
gaming and liquid Citadel are
definitely sitting at the top.
But as long as you're making
the playoffs, it may not
matter, right? If you figured
it out at this point, I would
say that I still think they're
going to do well, and I'll be
scared to play against 100
thieves right now, especially
if they look good in this
next map. Another thing in
the moment of preseason
shared. We're playing best
of threes, but that's
going to change the best of
to change a lot. Would you agree? You think we're going to see slightly different results and barriers?
Absolutely. We talk about targeted bands being a thing and I think the band phase becomes ever
more present and more important as you go into best of fives because you download the problems
and then you really start picking them off. It's hard to identify a problem if it only goes to
two matches, right? If you get that third then you can really hone in on who you want to
remove, who you want to prioritize for your team that works best into what they like to run
and then you find more success and also you can see weaknesses in modes and try to
to exploit that a little bit more. I do think best of five is a better indication of talent
team versus team, but still best of three. If you're able to take it too sweet like that,
you can run some more cheeky stuff and get away with it.
Real question is, dog, if we had best of five in preseason, do you think we would have
seen different results or would we have had the same tables that we have right now?
I think so. Yeah, because then you probably allow domination to go through a little
bit more and some of these teams are very dorm reliant. And then maybe they
can go to an extra convoy or convergence map that the teams they play against are like least
comfortable on because I mean I feel like if you're good at like one DOM map you're probably
good at most of them if not all of them comparing that to you know convoy or convergence maps
can be all over the place I guess so yeah I think that we probably would see something
different there for Schwark as well 100 Thieves and Cafe Rose at the moment 100 Thieves
are looking like the dominant force however for Cafe Rose it is pretty much do or
have to come back and win both
of these if they would like to
have an opportunity of
progressing through to playoffs.
It would be a very small chat.
That's for sure they would have to
go into tiebreakers. They have to
help the other teams lose later on
today, but there is still a
possibility. And for them, that's
what they've got to cling on to.
That is the situation for them
as for 100 thieves. If they win
this next one, they qualify for
the first time I've ever
seen a man who was in the
first half of the year from
Cafe Rose because it did seem
like they just rolled over and
showed their belly a little bit
in that first map. Their ship. Is
there a reason? Do you think
that maybe 100 thieves were
able to just really target them
in that band phase? Was it
already one before we even got
into the map? Well, I think
the bad business important, but
honestly, I just think they
lost confidence completely. You
know what I mean, buddy,
they left the first point
completely open. It didn't
even make an attempt for
portal and just head on to
the game. But the team is
playing it. They are going to
play it. It's a good game to
see what happens in the
bad phase, whether it can be
one or lost in it. Let's jump
into said bad phase and let's
see how these teams match up
against each other. It's a
hundred these versus cafe
Rose. Can cafe rose come back
into it. Gents, take it away.
All right, my friend as we
head into the next match
here, 100 thieves need to win
this thing to push them
self forward and keep going
here in this preseason.
Heading in to the deep parts
of the tournament. I mean,
I think so. I mean, realistically, on their side, they're going to go for the Daredevil again.
Maybe you prioritize playing this upcoming map, but I really wonder, in the overarching scheme of things for Kathy Rose,
we saw this out of the other squads, too, and I'm curious how, for example, Nightmare do later on,
but Pro Builder kind of feels like in a similar role that Light is right now,
where he's trying to figure things out, what to play for the squad,
and they're kind of playing around what Zongi could play,
play and he seems like he can flex onto so many things that it's kind of making it complicated
in that regard. But we'll kind of see how it plays out regardless. Hunter things get
that ultra on protect out early instead of the gambit because obviously they'd love to
play triple so far. And it looks like they're immediately making sure they could they could
play the ultra on chip. Yeah, that's surprising. But you know, I guess we're starting to
see again, it's not necessary to run the game. But if you don't need to, I think
if you have a cop that works and you know, this is where things get tricky. This
I'd say maybe if you ban Fox, you throw a wrench in their mix, right?
Like, I don't think it's a bad idea.
Wow, and we might, you know, they're floating it.
I don't think it's a bad idea.
I think it's a counter comfortable on and maybe it shakes it up enough.
But I'm not sure because, you know, man, this is still on the, yeah,
man, it's still on the table.
Well, that goes to what you said.
Like, I think it, you know, has a hundred these even shown they want to
play a ton of that mantis stuff?
Like, are they really enabled by it?
Like we've seen other teams when they damage boost the siloq and it
just goes the hell off for a hundred thieves.
They get the Vanguard protect of Deadpool for cafe Rose. They're hovering in shape. They're thinking about the white and there it is
That's their changeup
Yeah, I think I honestly think you know we talk about
Valentina being a really good fox
I think when he's in the conversation for one of the best foxes here getting a ton of value with all we see a lot of
neutral picks or even with alta available on the opposition like we saw picks from Winnie in Fox form taking out the backline of like
respect
Uh, in picks on cafe roasts with also available because it just was not expected to happen.
It was too much too quick and they could not bounce back from it.
So I like the change here.
This is the kind of stuff I wanted to see from the band phase.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like we haven't really seen a bad Fox player to be honest, too.
Like that character just is so strong at the current moment in the meta.
It makes sense to go for the band in that regard.
It's kind of like gambit to that degree.
Like, I don't think we've necessarily seen really bad gambit players just
like we haven't seen really bad Fox players.
Now we've seen some pretty bad Jeff play, for example,
and stuff we've seen, you know,
some suboptimal Mantis play in some regard.
But for White Fox, I don't think we've really seen
massive failures in that department.
Maybe you could say bad ultimates and stuff,
but I like it, Chip.
I mean, that's a good change up.
I'm curious to see the pans out, though,
because still I think the overarching theme for me,
for Cafe Rose, and it's kind of what you mentioned,
with the fact that some of the players were so young
they had to get Zondre Pro Builder last second.
But it's been a challenge, I think,
for Pro Builder to really find his role in Cafe Rose so quickly.
And I really want to see him step it up on this upcoming map
for Cafe Rose to have a chance.
For 100 Thieves though, they can kind of keep playing
their same game they have been playing.
As we go to Shin Shibuya, it's awesome to have this map back
into the hero pool.
Yeah, I love this map a ton.
And I think just to kind of reiterate your point,
I think you're right at Fox.
Like, we haven't seen a ton of bad Fox,
because I think Fox is one of those strats that when,
you know, you really test strategists when you dive in.
And you play on top of them 24-7.
But Fox is one of the very few strategists
that excels in that environment.
You pull out melee form and you can win a lot of those doors.
You can actually win against the DD.
If you just constantly land those mailes,
it keeps you healthy enough to win that trade.
So it's one of the only situations that that is the case.
So definitely a good answer to a lot of that movement.
Not a bad ban there against 100 Thieves.
Here comes the portal playoff.
The rip here, will this be valuable?
This is super interesting
because they're playing support pool by the way.
And I think the only team to really want to do that a lot
was the side of, yeah, we lost.
I was talking to Jitward.
He was saying that Deadpool needs to be permanent.
Okay, this is probably leaks.
I know he didn't want me to leave it, but he was saying
that Deadpool should be permanently in the game,
no matter what, whether it's band pool, DPS pool, whatever.
There's some players of the belief
that Deadpool should always be in the game,
no matter the band phase.
Well, I think the advantage in the idea behind that, right,
is you're building experience across the board.
So if you do need to switch roles,
you will have a fully, you know,
juiced out Deadpool despite the role
that you necessarily need.
So we've seen teams run the strap pool early on
to keep the team healthy,
get a ton of experience and switch over to dual pool
get value and that is definitely you know a huge strength you don't see a lot
as you know devil in general with all that experience is very strong you see
the positioning here you know from 100 thieves on this right side I like this
attack a lot yeah for sure you talked about upgrades I mean that Deadpool
slowly getting those upgrades eventually gonna get that damage boost for
the team to in the taunt so there's so much there and immediately Deadpool
committed they're keeping that venom inside he's removed you'll find out
yeah that's some good peeling and that's gonna be a two-piece to let out
we haven't seen a ton of soldier play at all but coming into the mix right
now and that's going to be a team sweet bro builder try to hold on but won't be
for long as the point is defended and thieves with a great hold there are
going to lock in but cafes I didn't mind the attack I like to switch there from
them to change the map a little bit but what good positioning by 100 feet to
drop back into that corridor together and just hold on tight and clean out
the rest of cafe roses come yeah man this is so smart I think so far from
the side of 100 thieves and when he builds up that jackpot so quickly
able to get even more damage healing down range and for the rest of the
squad they hard play around it that'll build so quick they also have old self
excellent job last fight they have old in this upcoming one it's gonna be free
old ones rage is there's no Magneto on the opposite side what a tackle there out
of the sky and just gonna be a big all that is a huge
respect through the chaos for the dance floor gonna keep the rest of the team
healthy and make witty pay for it as the boundaries now committed likely just
obtained their millennia able to find pics Zangy on the south though for
the trade back can they take this and move this forward the lead with
good positioning try to find the front line as dropping backwards now looking
towards pro builder who I'm not even sure it has passed them still but good
movement there on the front from Vinny to stay up in the chaos and not use that
ultimate and prepare for the next fight and now they're gonna start with that
freedom charge give a bunch of charge to that back line as it does give all
charge increase throughout the mix and over help and it's matched right back
from Lyric who gets more valuable fine in a moment the last stand comes out
to let it goes down and it does look like cafe rolls are in a position to
push and take this point. I mean it's the most 100 things thing ever to do dude
like there's all playing around each other when he by the way does get that
bounce up on a pro builder after he does commit the ultimate doesn't get the
jackpot though I think he does now okay so he's gonna keep playing around the
point gets that overheld to just kind of helping sustain his tpk just kind of
locks down the point but this is what I'm trying to say is a whole old 100
thieves loved to just bunker up play together as a piece of unit and get
wins off of eyes like this from tpk but they C9'd it we're moving to
second phase. Yeah, I mean,
that was beautiful. But the
major downside there folks is
just a little bit too high.
Jumped a little bit too much
there left point for a millisecond
that was all it took. If that
did not happen, it would have
been absolutely obscene. But
losing point there. Cafe Rose
doesn't even mind if they go
down. Yeah, excellent work from
Cafe Rose to force them into
that position. But unfortunately
for TK, not to have a team
to help follow him up and at
least touch the point.
Regardless, three minutes now
for Cafe Rose, they bought
themselves some more time here shit and they can get these all to that coming fight alongside this bucky
Which probably was more of a first-point strap, but I'm curious to see if they keep it throughout
Yeah, I mean you're just trying to manhandle Bynes here on the Venom millennial of the fine one to Lena fighting
Respects agent three now if the letter takes out picks who I see for we might hear on the lyricist try to run away
And cannot for long as the triple comes out for Delana and now their defense hold of them right at the point
It just pulls one of the spawn yet comes back towards the main understatement.
You can't get a reset.
But yeah, this is going to be kind of like a hold we saw from Yawwee Lost.
I think this is the new strategy we're seeing a lot in Marvel Rivals is these unique holds.
Being comfortable and uncomfortable, taking odd angles, making the other squad feel weird.
And this spawn hold couldn't work out because that door is also not open just yet for the
offense.
Yeah, I mean holding them at this point like this with the doors not open is insane.
You're essentially just playing point one all over again and South is going to fall
there for Lyric with some good focus. It's going to be one down as Winnie is able to take out Zanji,
evening the numbers a little bit millennia. Psyche I live. Now they're going to be up one on
De Bines and this point still hasn't gone through the door. I mean literally because the old
chart changes too, like Deadpool has old every single like other fight. Like it feels like it's
up so much compared to the Shrat who maybe has old every you know 2.5 for example. Nice job to
fall back. But no, Kim, why doesn't he healing Lyric again? Just like the previous fight
is able to open things up for cafe
arose without the olds.
That was a great job by cafe rose and
lyric. Yeah, but I would say job
done there for thieves.
They just want enough time.
All they wanted to do is just offer
as long as possible.
Now they win one or two and it's
over but cafe rose does have
all the advantage here.
Gtk has eyes.
Elena and Vinny as well.
Then you look over lyric pics.
Zanji and pro all have all
available.
It is in their favor.
Can they keep this going or do
thieves bounce back on D and hold on.
See they ought to do.
over the high ground, they still 50 seconds, you talked about a ship.
I mean, there's still two good fights for 100 feet.
They can kind of play this however they want.
We saw last time the Lena had a salty followed up on TKK's I have all the Moto.
For Cafe Rose, can they take advantage of the current situation?
They pop immediately the dance floor to counter Vinny and
try to go in with the Devil's Rage on Zanji's son.
The damage boosting there in that moment, trying to find a combination.
Zanji and pro able to find a two piece now.
And there's that combination of ultimate we were talking about as we see some big picks now.
Cafe Rose are still getting this point moving, but we're in a final fight situation here for Rose.
They need to keep clutching, and there will be a few answer ultimates here.
T-T-K with that eye, Millenia keep eyes on for that invisible boundary.
The only real...
Ooh, actually, we'll have three. This bind is very close to ultimate as well.
She's gonna try to play a little bit too aggro here, or a little bit more aggro, I should say,
but picks it with a still early on is massive.
Out goes that boundary too for Thieves, and that's exactly what Cafe Rose wanted.
Yeah, and they need to keep track on TGK. Melania also committing that ultimate is huge, but don't get eyeed here.
It's probably the side of Cafe Rose that go in with no finds ultimate. I'd counter, but it may be too late. He's lost everybody's shit.
Cafe Rose is stepping up, and this is exact- the entirety of what just happened is exactly what they wanted.
They forced out those ults early. They'd walk in, use feasts, and immediately put too much pressure on so that Cafe could come in and clean up the rest.
That was disgusting by Bynes and Lyric there to push them forward.
Two meters left in a dream here for Capay Rose.
Can they keep it going as Sal starts off in the range of Ultron.
Nobody goes down just yet.
Winnie gonna start off here now and try to keep the team healthy with this ultimate.
But still everybody holding on to the point and it looks like 8B bars are not moving.
But now they are as Vinny commits the fees.
T.T.K finds one, make it two.
Do we see the shutdown now as T.T.K is going crazy here with this.
Oh, wow, Angie, come on now on to picks two.
And that's a three-piece self-finding one.
Selena now in the entirety of Rose Falls as 100 thieves.
Hold on.
Whoo.
I mean, that was real close to the very end,
but it's that factor we talked about with Deadpool.
I mean, he got, what, like six, seven, eight
ultimates in that entire round.
And he looks like he's committing the Katana's
ultimate right with the final exam commitment,
where he's landing the jackpot,
getting bonus health for the entire, for himself,
then also getting the healing factor refresh too with the upgrade. So I mean,
I think that overall this comp has been disgusting when Winnie's been playing
the dead pool. Only downside is that you talked about a Lyric just kind of
diving this back line is self getting picked sometimes from a cross map.
Self has had moments where he's looked really good on first point,
but those picks kind of came through from pixel enable cafe rose to come
back into it. I think overall 100 things look like a better team,
but there is still some chance for cafe rose to win this ship. There's
still, even though it's tiny, the odds are small. I think there is a solid shot
for Cafe Rose if they get a few fights strung together on the defense.
Yeah, 100thies top, at least on defense there, was just making Venom's life
impossible. Bind's really not able to find too much value besides the fact
there was a lot of attention and focus and realistically when you are
playing a dive vanguard like Venom like Cap, that's your goal. You don't
necessarily always see it in the stats, so it did help them a ton, but now
How we see thieves change things up a little bit, Vinny going to be on that group.
TGK staying on the strange.
Everything else is going to stay roughly the same, but I think the idea of this group
is any of that over-commitment from the Vanguard dive, they're just going to wall off and
try to focus, and we're going to see a portal play come on right off the rip here.
Let's see what they can do.
They go for the portal play around the back side of the map, just kind of a
traditional map flip, but for a hundredth of a side, they put Delana back onto the
Phoenix, and I was curious if they would stick with the Bucky stuff, but they're
just going for that 2-2-2 style to try to get kidnapped on the hype.
You need just like bait and switch to allow self to get an angle where is self and the current moment?
It looks like just with the unit towards the point
Now I really like this switch here honestly by cafe Rose under defense really good positioning here
And that's gonna put T DK in a very tough spot able to drop back picks almost finding that itself very low
Gonna burn that passive so that is another win here from the side of cafe Rose
What a switch to answer that portal and here goes that commitment like you're talking about winning immediately starting off with that ultimate
walking them forward, GTK is able to find one on the picks of the back line
and they will be up a number after a huge tackle comes in
himself. Yeah, nice job to bring him back, green's used as well in the height.
We might see more of this later on, we'll talk about it later, but GTK takes down Lyric.
Even more have to touch this deadpool stuff. You build up that so fast, they also have
other straddles coming up in a second, cap arrows can't even touch. We're head to second phase.
But shit, I really think as long as Bandpool
gets banned or maybe even when that bampool doesn't get banned. We're gonna see so much more strap pull moving forward
especially with these really tough first point conversion map or
Convergence maps because you build up little so quickly they play for straddles and they go in fast
Yeah, you might be right there buddy as we see the portal play coming
And this is just a stall some time like we saw thieves do against cafe rose a lot of all committed here
It's on G respect holding on to all and there goes back coffee
We are gonna see a bend diagram as both boundaries are now committed now
just gonna be four rows giving them the advantage under thieves took some time to download that defense strategy from Captain Rose
But they downloaded it well and they took home that point early
But now cafe Rose gonna come in hot on the back of a huge clobbering time and
Sweep the side of a hundred thieves and try to do the exact same thing here on this point
Well the door is open and you're right. They are doing the exact same thing
They're just ripping the books straight out of under thieves playbook. That's pretty funny
A lot of what's committed though regardless was like going fight lyric could be big with another eye about the motor
He did hit a big one earlier, but on her thieves
I mean they've got the group ultimate they get his unit in the back line and look these selfies flanked already this position for cafe
Rose who are already giving up part space because they're a little bit confused
Yeah, it looks like thieves are now trying to find a way around this much like we saw Rose
Try to figure out for a moment with them a few fights as we see some commitment now down goes that end song winning committing ultimate
as well, nobody losing too much as picks.
Counters those ultimate simply with an invisible boundary,
but self able to take out blinds.
I have a motor that's committed eight lands on a few.
Will they be able to get these picks?
We were tried, but did not.
Was not able to do that.
GDK still gets Lyric after that trade
and self able to drop back.
And the door does close.
The door closes.
Everybody else just falls towards that cart.
I almost thought it was a good fight for Cafe Rose,
but the fact you lost somebody earlier
after that invisible boundary enabled the side
of 100 deep sand, you know, like they disengage the eye partially, but they just lost one early
on.
Now they're going to that same mere comp shape it looks like except for the Emma instead of
the Groot.
They have Emma, Cap, and they're going to have Pro Builder onto that Wolverine to match
self on the opposite side without any ultimates though, ship.
So just give me worries if they get a few fights strong together and self gets a little
bit sneaky with that wolf hole.
Yeah, Cappy Rose is got to move forward here and try to get two fights out of
So they can build ults with the lettuce.
It's not up in here.
Goodbye Binds off the Rift, now looking backwards,
and takes that height right back, looking for Zangin.
Oh man, that was some good tracking.
But a huge tackle comes right back from Pro Builder.
So Leda got a fall after that trade.
Almost getting the pick first.
Picks able to find that one.
The walls are up.
They're broken now.
Missile boundary committed.
Lyric, Emma just trying to burn this front line.
And there goes Vinny.
And that's what this comp is going
to be able to do now that they have Pro Builder also
on that Wolverine.
Just going to try to just destroy this frontline and play a new style of Vanguard buster, Zanji, find T.T.K. as well.
Yeah, excellent healing there from the side of respect and Pixel.
Pixel specifically kept Zanji alive, trying to just like hard int away from the squad.
When it looked like, usually, Delano would get that KO.
So excellent job from him.
A lot of probability to get that tackle counter to Self, who was fighting the tackles earlier.
Now, in the subsequent fight, Cafe Rose can draw on out.
They can maybe get a big ultimate against him in Furno,
but it's gonna be tough to deal with the pressure that's gonna come from Winnie's jackpot in the moment.
And there goes more commitment.
And Zung and Furno comes down to give it to some of that over health instantaneously.
When it does land,
with Crystal pulled there from Lyric,
does have Psionic available too.
But it's very difficult for Psionic into a group who maybe has well available.
No, it doesn't look like Vinny does.
And Attack will come through.
Out goes Crystal to try to counteract.
Is that gonna be enough to keep Vinny healthy in the front line?
It is.
Selv trying to move forward here.
The whole team gonna stay healthy and out goes the boundary.
But this time, from the side of Pixel, who is keeping Caffe Rose healthy,
TTK goes down from Lyric, and the defense side here from Caffe Rose is looking insane right now.
Yeah, I mean, Lyric's just able to do whatever he wants.
Bax away at the same time, he's the focus, but Wolfo, by self-committed,
but it's countered by the Diamond form, excellent job to remove that CC.
And Caffe Rose are holding on off of Emma Play,
that is just straight out of a play out of Shib's book on TikTok.
Dude, this is an insane hold from Caffe Rose, and they do have all the advantage.
South missing that out there because of the diamond form is so valuable here.
Pro-builder now does have last stand ready.
Nobinds has an answer.
Respect does.
Yes, strangling prison is a big win condition here,
but going into respect on that low key crystals
or an immediate answer without committing ultimates.
We'll see what they like to do here in a moment.
They're going with the Emma and early on by T.D.K.,
matched by Nobinds.
They're trying to flip the pace,
but do they have the members to stop Vinny and his fruits attacked?
It looks like they're backed up for now,
building up towards yet another, dead-pulled and invisible boundary, but look who's on the flankest that will vereen with the ultimate could be huge bravilder.
Yes! It just landed on the back line, it does find a few there as nobody's good as a Vinny! Three go down here and Caffe Rose are making this look like this is their game and they are popping off.
Zanzi on his Aletta, another pick here on the side of TTK, sell fast to drop back eight seconds and a dream now for 100 thieves.
Can they portal back in time? They should have the time but the commitment needs to be fast
It's there on the point with a millisecond left and can they hold cafe rose gonna commit now with the
Psionic and that doesn't seem to do too much just pull many and many goes down
It comes in and cafe rose want to push this to gain three a hundred thieves are falling down
And that could be it is a hundred thieves lose this and it goes to map three
Oh my god Cafe Rose what a crazy turnaround that sliver of hope they held on to so strongly
100 thieves losing on a map that you would assume they would be solid at and they had
all the time making the world.
That's genuinely insane that Cafe Rose hold there and excellent observing towards the
very end to catch the play which was pro builder.
The player we were talking about that had to make a difference coming through on that
Wolverine and being absolutely huge just like self was on Wolverine was matching it and also well deserved MVP for pixel and cafe
Rosie Strattline who played it perfectly. Maybe that's also why we see invisible women sort of targeted as a last band and could be a
factor moving forward to counter these wolf plays when there's no Magneto on the field. Yeah I mean I think you know although
self got nine finals looks really good. I'm just not sure the early Ultron lock like that is worth it in this matter right now.
But hey, I'm not on these teams or behind the scenes
on stats and scrims.
And I will say that the side of Cafe Rose on that defense
took a page out of 100 Thieves' Hold,
portaled quickly to buy time.
And then from then on, just kept winning.
Some of those battles, and that was all that was necessary.
Taking fights quickly, building alts,
and then winning all fights, Cafe Rose locked in.
And we will see if they could take home game three
right after this break.
I
the game. Welcome back.
I'll say from my end, I put my
hands up. I thought maybe this
one was going to be done and
dusted, but they've shown a
little bit of something
special here, dogman. What
changed for Cafe Rose? Where
just figuring out what to switch to at the right time and you saw 100 thieves didn't react, right?
They kept playing the Ultron stuff. They kept playing the Deadpool and slowed down their pace to a halt.
Whereas on the opposition, I mean, they also kind of slowed it down, which kind of threw 100 thieves off, right?
They allowed the Wolverine to set up flanks. Self, we didn't see as much out of him after the counter Wolverine swap came through.
And that's what's enabled Cafe Rose on that map. So huge Wolverine plays out of Pro Builder and the squad.
that's going to be a little
bit of a loss for the team.
Shipped. Do you think this now
puts Kathy Rosa potential
advantage going into Museum of
Contemplation because momentum
is on their side. They're going
to be feeling themselves a
little bit here and maybe
hundreds. He's going to be a
little bit worried. Yeah,
momentum is a huge thing in
Marvel rivals and mental huge.
We heard a little bit ago
the conversation that you
know, if you're not feeling
it as a squad, you're
going to struggle. We saw
that from nightmares. Maze
kind of mentioned they were
struggling a little bit, but
now they're feeling more
You lose like that in a map that you felt confident on with a pretty decent hold and
you just get kind of swept for like five straight fights.
You're going to go into this next first fight feeling a little bit on your heels and it's
going to make it more difficult as we head over to Museum of Contemplation.
And I don't know what the mathematicians are like behind the scenes at 100 Thieves,
but it turns into a pretty dicey tiebreaker situation if they lose this matchup.
I'm sure they are crank cranking the numbers behind the scenes at the moment to make
sure they can work out.
Are we through?
Are we not going to be through?
going to have to wait for
results happening elsewhere.
But the main thing they can do
here is just finding a win and
taking down cafe Rose. Now I'm
not going to count our 100
thieves. I think after that
first match, we know for where
what they're capable of here,
dog man. But if you were kind
of behind 100 thieves, if you
were on 100 thieves, you know,
as an ex pro player yourself,
what would you change up going
into this map three? I mean,
like I would assume it's just
going to be the band phase
was generally kind of fine.
I mean, I would be okay maybe
getting rid of the invisible
of the invisible woman and stuff towards the very end if they're going to play
more Wolverine stuff. Obviously it's a bit different on museum. I think this is
going to be a big change up. But regardless for 100th deep side, I think
that it's always tough, right? Because they were they definitely looked like a
way better team on that one. The fact they won domination, but it seems like
it's the classic situation where you take one step forward, two steps back.
Right? That game was almost unloosable, sort of like with the way I
I would say nightmare every game like Mace talked about the fact that they've gone to three maps every single time like 100
Thieves literally just like they just snatched the feet out of the jaws of victory right there like it genuinely seemed like 100
Thieves had so much time to work with second phase, but some of these maps should we specifically
can be deceptive, I guess, right? Like it feels like you're right there towards the very end and then you just get stopped.
So realistically, if you get stopped that many times in a streets phase, it's probably just going to be up to switching your
a little bit. They just got to do that right? I think the Deadpool stuff was good at the very beginning, but they just couldn't make plays off of self. They couldn't do stuff with him later on, and I think that's what stopped them in that second face.
But I mean, sure. Caffee Rose should be more than proud of themselves, not only with the performance so far, but just in general here in preseason. Remember, of course, they competed in MRC, find themselves now in MRI.
MRI is always going to be a lot of eyes on you. There's going to be that situation where
you feel that extra pressure. But even if they don't qualify for playoffs, I think we're
still pretty excited to see what they can do going into the main season. Oh, 1000% that
this team showed right there on their attack on point two being down. Ultimately, it's
being way back in point with a minute left. They won three consecutive fights down off.
They had huge commitment on every single all playing one. They have the talent. They
They showed it right there against 100 Thieves, a storied team, a team that doesn't make a
ton of mistakes, and they kept finding that little crack in the defense and pushing forward.
And that is truly what won them that map.
That attack, that point two with a minute left won them that map.
Well, I thought it was a brilliant launch, wasn't it, Doug?
It was.
And I got something too on that.
Like, I feel like a real factor that I've been missing on.
And I don't know if you guys agree.
But I think that we haven't seen a lot of, like, TTK so far, right?
You know what like I feel like he wants to go over to Angel a lot of the times like I feel like he feels like he's a little bit
More proactive on that hero compared to dr. Strange
I don't know what do you guys think about that because I feel like the reason why a hundred thieves we're winning as much
We're being as proactive is because we don't have to take on a character that can make plays as much as an angel
Look hand for example like we've seen him do on that number one
Well, I do think that there has been a little bit of talk on reddit or whatever social media platform
You'd like to use about ttk and how deep his hero pool is
is. How much does that come into
the equation ship because
comfort is everything. But of
course, matter sometimes just
shifts you away from your comfort
zones in a scenario like this.
Should you just be looking
towards comfort instead of
playing the matter? Yeah, it's
tricky, right? Because I do
think as a whole right now,
the meta is very much shifted
towards dive, which I do think
controller players struggle a
little bit on. I think that
cap venom looks so good right
now. I think tk is dominant
on virtually like a lot of the
that are more V ones and hold
down point and make huge plays.
But you know, maybe it's not as much
of his meta, but still he still has big
that we saw some huge alts like we saw
that strange out of that hold there
on that point one. If that strange
all just didn't go the inch too high,
it would have been game winning.
But you know, again, you're right.
I think we saw him when he switched
that angelic at a ton of value.
Maybe I don't know man. Maybe it's
just not quite his meta. Fantastic
I think there's definitely
something to be said here for
TTK going into this final
one. Speaking of the band phase
is ready. So gents, enjoy this
one. It's going to be a fun one.
Who's going to win 100 Thieves
or CR? We start up now, folks
100 Thieves knowing them. They
want to bounce back heavy and
take this home. Quick Museum of
Contemplation has led to a
lot of fun matches over this
preseason off the rip. The
first band going to come out
to be that gambit. Goodbye
and see you next week.
over this preseason off the rip,
the first man going to come out to be that gambit.
Goodbye to the else as well.
After this draft, they should I want to see who you got because I mean,
like, like you guys were talking about, like, dude,
like the mathematicians going ham right now.
It is always the worst case scenario for under thieves, by the way,
as they go for the game, the band first cafe, rose goes to the also band
first. I feel like they always do so much better when everybody's doubting
them. And then like the moment anybody switches up, it just is the opposite.
You know, like, like I feel like other things look so good.
Not number one.
And then look at that matter of two, they lose.
So who knows what this team at the current moment, right?
We'll see if Cafe Rose, like maybe this map is a better map
for them could be that shouldn't we use a tough one.
But still Cafe Rose get the Elsa through.
And I wonder if you know how Delana feels about that too
ship because the fact that we can't play Elsa so far
throughout, you know, is kind of a little bit
disheartening maybe.
Yeah, I'm just surprised we're not seeing.
I don't know, like the immediate lock of this, of Gambit or something,
it's always something a little more off than the main two meta picks.
And I think that's maybe just comfort in general here, but I don't know.
I just, I'm not sure how I feel about it fully as it happens nearly every
single time, but without, without saying that, I think honestly,
what happened there on the last map was just that he's just lost
concentration because I think they had a great attack in defense,
but it's just like this one fight and there's one batch of fights
that they struggle with.
And I think that's all it really is.
Yeah. Well, and Cafe Rose, they go for the Invis band or protect sorry. And that's kind
of what I was thinking like 100 thieves. They want to play the low key because I think that
they did a welveress fly quest just with Winnie playing it at a very high level. Just around
the map is a very good low key player. So they go for the counter low key band. But
I was thinking maybe they would go for the Invis band 100 thieves would on this map
just because of how much work I think respect in pixel we're doing. So that's really
really smart out of them. They
get the daredevil though, and
that is a very big change up
ship because we now see self
back on the daredevil just like
we did versus fly quest in that
game number three. Not a few
days or only a few days ago.
Yeah, and the group in there
for Vinny. This is one of those
massive group can find a ton of
success. There's a lot of like
small chokes that not only can
you wall off, but you can
set up for and I think set up
is massive on museum. So
removing that too, but you're
right. Yes, self going to be
It is disgusting and I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like now pro builder showing that Adam pick
It's looked really good on some maps and some as I'm just not sure it's always the answer
So we'll see what it looks like here as a hundred these will be attacking first
True true. I don't like that. I just like maybe it's just like how I'm feeling about probe like purple
There's a good Adam Warlock. I'm gonna be wrong, but I just like that kind of a group of people like why would you run?
Adam Warlock, can you throw an old Tron and stuff? You know like it does feel
feel like Adams is not as good this patch, and even with the Mantis stuff, like they were
doing Mantis, Adam Warlock before.
So I don't know, that's going to be very interesting, but almost, I don't know, like I still think
Kathy Rose's band phase went pretty solid.
I just, we'll have to see if they actually stick with Adam Warlock as we take a look
at the map over all Museum of Contemplation.
We have to contemplate the mathematics at the current moment, just because of the
fact that if Hunter Thieves lose this, they could be out of the playoff ship.
I mean, would that be, would that, that would be crazy if 100 of these guys make it to the block.
Yeah, it goes to tiebreakers, right? And you'd never want to leave it in the hand of tiebreakers.
There's just too much permutations of what could go wrong in situations that would leave you out.
And 100 thieves, I mean, we know they have the talent to move forward.
It's just, that would be absolutely insane here.
Cafe Rose just stepping up whenever they need to.
See what it looks like now as the defense begins.
Remember, thieves can't be on that group.
The Lyric is going to be on that group on their side to help take some of that space for free dropping back already
It looks like thieves excuse me
I'm looking really good on this attack and already taking this corner and they're not able to really find any of that backline play it
No dive no commitment on 100 thieves right now to playing slow. I think everybody's a little bit nervous off the rip here
Yeah, can't be rose to play me out of because they want like hard bunker off
It looks like and play around
Zanji for the tough part is without a roll off because you want to play off angles and stuff
However, there's no off angles controlled 100 thieves just walk at you and already find the first pick
And when he's on Fox again, and I will say I think when he's a really good fox and plays very aggro self
Going to be back on at least for now that all try not think this this triple backline when you do have all try on Fox's
It's really good for thieves. It's like their specialty right now
But pro-builder gonna suffer as backpicks able to find self after committing the boundary tiki
Don't want to launch all there for thieves
We'll see what it looks like more as we begin portal play coming through that's from cafe rose
that's a huge cool down to pull out now though. Well pretty going down while his
team's still backed up so great fight so far for Caffe Rose still cocoon out
from Pro Builder. If this works that'd be crazy. I just I'm not a big fan of the
Adam Warlock we'll have to see if it changes up though as we did see a hundred
teams commit that end song in front of the Lennon has been building up this
whole every single fight so far looks he has it again Google cross map that's
insane. Wow and they are. They got K.O. through it. Yeah I know dude that is
and saying finding one through that is obscene usually you need a combo to make that happen just some really good targeted damage
It looks like from Zanji and that's that's the thing
I mean else is so good at percent based damage remember pulling out that rightful after using abilities does percent based damage
You can really chug if you combo well enough for me to get those full stats
You become an absolute team in TTK gonna be on that van pull and that all is available right towards the back line
They're gonna look for some commitment
From the dive but gets pushed away and there goes self now with the rage of all front trying to break this shield
That is from strange and no binds
There's the dance floor now to answer back self in a tough spot half HP in a dream is able to escape for that moment
Nobody goes down just yet, but there are so many alts available here for thieves
Can they get value right now to let up in a low ceiling very hard to break
I'll go see I have a motor but when he says not up in here goodbye to bond binds excuse me and the rest comes
through now. TDK and South able to find you. Bro, Builder bringing the team back. Winnie
gonna find Picks, but everybody is gonna res back up on the retake. Will that retake work
for them? We'll see in a moment. I mean right now it's kind of working. The revs coming through
does bring back all these members, but you also have the Fox ultimate from Winnie. 100
theme side ring out of both. Wow. Zodgy off map with the Glorger Ops. He finds two. No
ways. The revs to come back to find those KO's. It evils cafe Rose again.
this is absolutely insane everything was committed there in the res was massive
from Pro Builder they used everything 100 thieves but you've got to track that
atom if you do not have an answer for the atom every alt you commit it's just
value value value for the res Pro Builder brings everyone back
respect launches that boundary and everyone's full HP after that with no
answer ultimate lyric gonna be the only one without available as millennia is
very close the Lena close as well will 100 these people to do this as
We are entering final fight territory.
Orano at 50k being like sort of maintained Deadpool right now.
You do have the animal committed by Lyric Dumpselway though as Delana gets the peel.
But can they find him? Soulbond is well committed.
The Venom is found on Lyric, but they haven't before.
Can't a hundred of these finally capitalize.
They have ultimate advantage. We go in with Invisal Boundary. Can we get the KO's?
Yeah, that was a massive ult there for Melania playing aggro with that Boundary to slow everyone for the dive.
Big brain play there as Pro Builder goes down.
And that's going to be three. Do we see a fourth here?
Delena with some nice tracking.
I'm going to make that happen, but the stall has begun.
One meter left on the point as we see the shift over to that TD,
the story TD from Cell finding two, actually three.
Do I see four? We don't even need it.
As TDK cleans up Lyric.
I mean, that was close.
Really enabled the buy Lyric going so aggressive.
Came coming back. The pocket there from Melania to keep.
Delena alive as well. Peeled them off.
But the portal play, fast play,
by Cafe Rose, just as many fights as possible.
Just like we've seen some top teams do earlier
in 100 Thieves on the defense of Chinchebuya,
same thing with them on Chinchebuya.
I should've taken that in the ladder, would you folks?
If you do have your team stacking
after a retake like that and after your team goes down,
wow, Vinny, ew, with a three piece,
is gonna be on.
I talked about it and I wanted to see more venom
from Vinny because I know he has it in the bag
and that's a clean showing, it's a let it,
cleans up the rest after that aggressive portal
there from Cafe Rose,
but I do think that aggressive portal
is typically the play early on.
try to buy some time, but play what?
Thieves did not give them much time there.
Well, I do like, I mean, they're playing a little preractive,
right?
This is what we talk about teams doing, making plays,
not necessarily bunkering up.
This is a different sort of 100 thieves
that we saw on the previous map, as they're actually now
going up, going aggressive, and making something happen.
Yeah, and we can see now, everybody,
hard engaging from the side of cap heroes moving forward
with the dance floor picks.
Going to have to drop back, not getting too much value
with that winny with the Fox available.
TTK gotta love seeing TTK on the vanpool. It's actually disgusting on that hero here that absolutely fits his style of play
It's gonna launch that ultimate not get too much value, but it does pull out a strat line. So Psyche I lied
That's big value. They still lose to Lena there and the side of pro builder who does have resident
I have a Gamotos big on the Ritty who does not go down as the invisible boundaries now committed to get the team healthy
Disgusting that large rocks get everybody to believe it was a boundary
That's why it went off of that and that foxhole by the way did nothing with an eye and I just counted it all
Sadly, maybe that's why we haven't seen the fox bands throughout is because that ultimate can get deleted so fast
Then like rocket raccoon to a degree excellent work by cafe Rose with the proactive plays out of their vanguard
Ain't Zanji can they keep it up though upcoming fight Lyric does have that brutal key could end this fight before it even starts
Yeah, this could be a massive ultimate here cafe rose on defense
I can really solid self after certain that DD is started to lock in heavily and there goes the strangling prison
Does it find the back line? Not sure it gets too much. Ed does find one, but I'm gonna make it two
There goes more commitment point needs 11 seconds 10 seconds for the touch gotta be there within three at the end in
Order to push this into OT there is the five second count down beginning winnie trying to look backwards all they on it
I do believe tk was there for the touch could clean play there buying down looking towards it
Kaden tries to stay alive but goes out instantaneously.
The boundary comes out, the feast gets committed.
Who gets more value in this combo of ultimates?
We'll see in a moment, there's gonna be the dance
of the counter-fly towards the back line.
And you gotta keep eyes on point
as to let us be able to find Zanji.
That's a big pit.
Now looking towards the back line,
but the rest comes through.
Everyone will be back here from Caffe Rose,
and I'm not sure thieves can break this.
He was shooting the wall at the time,
but he's trying to stall.
Nobody else is there.
Hunter thieves got stopped second phase shift.
That school bus is broken down.
Wow.
Kathy Rose are looking so solid right now.
It is insane.
And you know what?
Everything I said about the Atom Comp,
this map, it has absolutely worked.
I take it back on defense.
It looked really good.
It kept getting value.
The over commitment of Altham is to try to sweep
and then you look at the KO feed
and you just see everyone back in the fight.
And then they're committed straddle,
something from respect, the invisible boundary.
Next thing you know,
not only does everyone have a ton of over health,
but they're all full HP as well,
right back in the fight.
used every single ultimate. Very clean play. I don't know if I'm crazy, but the
vanpool, by the way, I just like my biggest problem with this character, and I
saw this when I was watching Ves' POV for FlyQuest. It just feels like the
character does so much, but like so little at the same time. Like it just
feels like T.T.K. I mean look at the damage, like he was doing a solid amount
of damage for sure and stuff, and so was the rest of the squad, but I mean
they just had no capitalization off of like Vinny's dives and stuff. Like
after Vinny went in, he would get frozen, get CC'd, go down.
But like, then the van pool would like flank,
get his ult off, and then get countered by Invis,
so they would get the straddles out.
But then after that, like, what was he doing
on dead pool, I guess?
Like, whenever I was watching Vest POV for FlyQuest, man,
like, it just felt so hopeless.
Like, you're kind of like doing a lot,
but also you can't make too many, like, individual plays
on Vanguard dead pool, like it seems.
Yeah, I mean, it's tricky because there's,
we talked about you need to land it on strats
that have to aim and you know can make some mistakes but when you have bond
available when you have low key crystals available when you have a ton of these
different answers and maybe you know crystals weren't available necessarily
there but when you have invisible boundary or the invisible shield available
if you have a ways to keep yourself healthy without forcing you to aim and
try to track for heels and while still keeping your team healthy it is a
really tough situation for VanPort to play into and although I think he's
incredibly strong right now obviously just it's nearly impossible to get
finals without all but still a ton of distraction value there from GTK a
Great stat line looking good, but now I'm going to switch it up and go strange
Yeah, maybe if we get like the mantis and stuff we could like you get the actual damage on range
But you're right without the damage boost that could be a difference maker, but it's interesting
You know we could go for a strap pull or something in the Ultron
We're making a hundred thieves uncomfortable by putting them onto the atom comp, which is yeah, I mean the lead is good on that
I'm not getting wrong, but it is interesting that mix up that we're making a hundred things have to do
And pro builders gonna be on the storm here keeping the team boosted in terms of damage is the idea with Zanzi
you just want to make Zangia raid boss and farming that out relatively quickly.
The whole team is because of that storm damage boost, folks.
It's not just breakpoints that change.
You farm your alt faster when you deal more damage.
It is a math equation based on damage.
GTK with a big bubble lands that and they're able to clean up a stat.
Good start there as self is going to be on that magneto.
Millenia finds Lyric and 100 thieves are locking back in here and they
want this W. They want a whole point one.
Yeah, that's a lot better.
I mean, you can see the immediate impact.
TK has with that old after switching off a dead pool going over to the doctor strange excellent job
The bubble by soft like you mentioned ship now the second fight
He's gonna be holding on to this to help peel off maybe that crew trying to counter Lyric
Let's see if Lyric can get a little fancy with that brutal to manage straddles could delay the fight out
But the Lennon look he's reading it even if his team does do brutal to see if he's out of the fight
Res is available here for the Lennon trying to do the same thing
They saw from pro builder picks going along to the dance floor from cafe Rose
Doesn't seem to keep the team or give them enough value for a return pick right now
The entirety of the front line of 100 thieves is fully healthy. The Leonard is trying to find an off-angle pick at the moment
Protect the back line. This is really smart positioning waiting for bond potentially crystals are gonna be committed instead
Don't need to overuse pull downs. No, but it's gonna be healthy from that off
Nobody goes into the guard trucks though that land does not come in for himself on the meatball there the meteor M
As nobody's getting value off these ultimates right now the tackle comes in on the TTK tries to reverse
I and it's massive
TTK get a pick off this respect goes down another
Should fall here at least the passive gets pop respect in pixel fall. What an answer there by TTK
Yeah, oh no for pro builder, but he's like okay. I'm gonna get him guys
Don't bring it back into us and then they get eyed didn't think he would have to use his over Reno
His last stand maybe he's having it for Delena's res or one of these straddles
Which they haven't needed to use the tough part is cafe rose haven't gotten any cooldowns forced early
And that's why 100 thieves have just been able to get so much done even with the atom roll lock playing so far back
Cafe rose need to isolate somebody and maybe get some early cooldowns through shield uses by 100 thieves
But they commit immediately with evil boundaries
You know we're seeing that museum can absolutely be one of those triple triple hold maps
So 100 thieves are doing it clinically right now with the bill to find millennia is a good start
But it's traded right back as Lyra finds. Oh Lyra goes down this
Oh!
The residents improved the lead-up.
To keep a lead-up back in the fight, we saw the attempt there from Binds to get more
value.
Zanji able to take out Vinny though, who it will win as well.
When you see that res available, you essentially just intentionally in as a team for Builder
trying to land one.
Does find Vinny, who's still healthy and is going to try to copy up with a good
teleport out to use invisible boundaries should they need it.
Yeah, a lot of that worked out.
I mean, Vinny got his own cancel by that Wolverine grab, saved it for the Invis,
or rather saved it for the rest.
Invis counter for the defense.
Zanji comes in with a large rush to the connect on anybody.
Looks like there's one in it itself and also more than it goes down
I am walking about okay, okay, isn't too late he finds back line
But do they find the chaos after they do get the lunatic with disrespect going down sign them up for a hundred thieves
They're sent back to spawn red school down to use as well
That's all about this retake here as we are in an OT situation
It is final fight territory altered vantage going to be in favor of Vinnie and self here for 100 thieves
Do they get the value out of these?
ultimates they will not have crystal to worry about the portal comes through it's
all about this fight right here folks 100 these fans need something big to
happen here as cafe roses using this momentum self does have that meteor m
available likely gonna use it to try to counter if need be trying to get the
team healthy right now with no blindsides in there is that invisible boundary
the tackle comes in from builder on the winnie who portals in and that's
gonna be another big who does not seem to land the meteor M and they might
get this point here as Cafe Rose are up in numbers.
We can let him, by the way, back out of the loaf.
He has coffee to second, but they're down people.
When he's coming back on the jet,
he's come back fast, but the claws are out, ship.
When the claws are out, it's hard to exist as a tank
and live in this world.
Everybody's in this cart.
Second phase.
Mrs. Frizz, we might beat 100 thieves.
This is insane.
Cafe Rose stepping up to the talent
and looking incredibly clean.
with only millennial results available in this next fight.
Need to stop Builder, Zongi, Lyric and Picks.
This is going to be an incredibly tough fight to retake,
but Fiends wouldn't be the team that could be able to do it.
Cafe Rose has done it on map two.
Will it happen?
But this time in the favor of the Fiends,
we'll find out in just a moment.
Zongi has a chance to etch his name into MRC
and MRI history.
What can they do in the place
So there it goes out with the Google ultimate.
And they get the Greens out.
And there's boundaries here.
Can they get KOs through it?
Everybody's in the old last dance!
It's not here!
What is it?
It doesn't get Winnie.
Is that enough more after that?
No, they fall back.
Yeah, they're going to have to force retake here.
TTK's in a dangerous spot.
Binds finds that pit.
TTK taking out Zanji, who resists right back.
Not enough.
The lineup's going to touch the point there.
Whid the bird does that.
And Vinny falls.
And it looks like this may happen for Cafe Rose here,
who'll find another as self goes out.
Witty gonna bring back Vinny Pro-Builder again.
Onza Daletta and Cap'n Rose are looking unstoppable right now.
But Vinny able to fight one.
Will that be enough here?
The Glouarch Rocks is going to fight two.
And oh my goodness folks, that could do it here.
Oh my goodness, this might be it.
Cap'n Rose are unstoppable and they win this series.
The Glartrox of Glartrox is man like holy crap poor Vinny.
He just had his hole in his second shit.
He almost had it just gets ripped away from the point, can't stall for any longer self
force to stall and that does it.
Where's the mathematicians at now because by god Cafe Rose could be in the playoffs
and have a chance to eliminate 100 thieves after that win and another MVP goes to
Pixel.
backlander cafe rose doesn't get enough love for sure but I think after today they will
Wow this is absolutely obscene gaskin what are your thoughts on this matchup
Uh, I'm currently getting the calculators out. I'm checking all of the numbers. I'm trying to punch it myself
It's all gonna come down to what happens later with sen versus nrg both teams are gonna have to watch that match up
and see who wins that one and by how much because it is going to be tiebreaker central with how things are going but cafe
Rose have put their best foot forward here
100 thieves have they dropped the ball at the last minute is there a world where tiebreakers suddenly turns it around and they don't
Make playoffs only time will tell but it's certainly going to be them relying on someone else to do it for them now at
this point cafe Rose go huge
match. I think that it was a
match that we deserve to see
as well. We were saying that
Cafe Rose have this potential.
Map one was pretty lackluster
from the nose. We're wondering
is it going to be good enough
and then suddenly when we get
to convergence, when we get to
convoy cafe Rose show us Adam
Warlock is still here is still
present and very much a meta
hero dog. I mean, how are
you feeling about that one?
in that final moment as well.
Shib was talking us through it.
Yeah, but maybe maybe you and Shib are right.
I got to write an apology letter to the Golden God himself
because I was not a believer.
I just wasn't and it worked right.
Like I don't know what to say besides fun series.
Like you said, Gask.
I mean, that was a super fun one to watch
and week two is delivered.
I don't know, man.
Like first of all, I'd be crazy if 100 thieves
don't make it to the playoffs in the preseason
just because they're one of our best franchises
in North America.
I mean, it's historically,
always done well internationally.
Top four finishes a lot of the time at mid season
and grand finals.
Flag quest the only team to match that
and get further at the grand finals obviously,
but they're still that team internationally
for us in North America.
So if they were to not make the preseason playoffs,
I know it's just the preseason,
but that would be genuinely insane
and really a changing of the guard right now, Shib, right?
Like this feels like a real upcoming,
like the newbies are stepping up now finally.
the American region is insane.
I have no idea who's going to win any given game.
What is in the water?
Dude, what is in the water?
How many reverse sweeps are we going to see?
I'm mind blown, right?
I can't even speak, Estin.
Again, it's just, in best of three,
it seems like anything can happen.
And I mean, you don't need to be a mathematician to know
that there's going to be three teams on two and three
after today finishes.
Because you've got Sen going up against Energy Shock,
both of them are two and two right now.
One of them is going to end up at three, two.
to end up at 32. One of them
is going to end up at 23.
And that means we're going to have three teams tied.
And then again, it comes down to tie breakers.
At first, it's head to head.
Secondly, then it goes down to map records
if the head to head is tied between all those teams.
After map records, well, that's when you then
get into SOV business.
And after that, it becomes a tie breaker match
that may have to happen.
So there's a lot of insane permutations
that could happen.
But one thing that I know there's
going to be a very happy person in our interview.
We've got no binds cut coming in from cafe rose no binds. What an amazing matchup that was from you guys
You must be on top of the world right now
Bro, I'm I've missed that in there like that. It's such a great feeling right now. You know like
Listen, we're just like free to play players. We're just coming in here, you know coming from MRC
We're just we're staying we're popping off right now. You know just trying to like show we belong here
I think we're doing very right now
that's the thing is that you
guys do not look out of place
whatsoever. Now you may have
heard me as I was introing
that there is a lot of ifs and
buts with tiebreakers coming
into it. Are you guys just
going to be watching kind of
biting your nails going into
that matchup of send versus
energy. Yeah, I mean going up
into that matchup against
ever set by energy. I you
know, I do pray that a
certain team wins in our life.
I'm just trying to secure our
And I'm just trying to make the playoffs,
get our team out there and show we can get any of us
further.
First of all, I'm just in shock and all.
Sorry, this is genuinely insane that this happened.
I'm sure you guys are even more just freaking out,
popping off, like you said.
Because not only that, you guys, top three in MRC,
coming through into this and winning in that matter
when you guys had to replace players last second.
I mean, first of all, just to allow you
to give some shoutouts real quick.
And I'll ask a real question, dude.
Do you have any shout outs to anybody in your team?
Obviously Pro Builder and Sange coming in doing work,
but in your back line playing well,
and then you obviously doing insane.
Just any shout outs to anybody you wanna say real quick.
I mean, to honestly the whole team,
I love all my teammates, they're all great players.
Shout out to my boy Chris or Lerwick, you know.
He was hitting those crazy grittles for us,
he's drinking for us.
You know, shout outs to Zangio and the Elso bro.
He's like popping off literally hitting fat,
oh, after all, after all, you know,
my backland respect pixel, absolute goats, you know,
and then pro-butter just, you know,
on the wolf, holy absolute masterclass.
And then of course I do want to shout out to boys,
sticky entry, you know,
they are the goats that helps get to Ignite.
So I do want to give them a shout out too,
but not the team is great.
Of course.
Well, this kind of comes down to like,
like vibes and stuff too,
because obviously leading into this matchup,
I mean, you guys versus 100 thieves,
I think you had a good read in the draft.
Can you walk us through that maybe
without giving away too much information?
but if we go back and take a look at, you know,
I think the second Napstrap was,
was a really good change up for you guys in the third.
What really gave you the edge
in that draft phase versus the hundred thieves?
I mean, I think with every Ignite team,
like every team has to like gimmick.
And so as long as you play to like ban around that,
you know, like even if, you know,
they're extremely insane players, you know,
you just try and get rid of the best comps
and you know, try and make sure
you could run your good comps.
And then, you know,
that's just how we went about it for the ban phase.
I mean, but I can't imagine the hype and what the team comes
was the sounded like at the end there kind of picking piggybacking
off of what dog said. I mean, and also shout out again, you
kind of mentioned tree and sticky. You didn't you lost two
players right before the started. You've gained some two new
players and you're playing against some of the best teams
and showing up in beating some of the best teams. So I want
to draw attention to that again for the chat so that in case
they weren't aware that is awesome and congrats to you.
But what what do you attribute these wins to you
because you guys are just locking in in crucial moments.
Um, I mean, I think I can contribute so I mean, we just like,
what, like I said last time on the broadcast, I would just like hard grind.
We're just putting the time in, like, listen, we're free to play players, man.
Like we're like, they'll get all these like partner org teams.
Like, you know, like, we're just like, we're free to put players beating
all these teams.
And it just, I just think that's a crazy.
Like, I just think we're like, we're really like, you know,
showing them that we deserve to be here and that, you know, we're
going to, we're going to try and dominate.
Awesome man, I appreciate you.
Real quick, I have one question.
Who sits in those chairs behind you, Binds?
Who sits in the chair, right chair, right chair, that right chair?
Who sits there in this, what looks to be like a science room or something?
Are you in the basement also?
What's going on there?
Yeah, I mean, I'm not actually in a basement.
I think it's outer space or something.
I don't actually, I'm kind of homeless.
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We're going to have to wait for
the game to start. And boy, do
we have everything. It just
seems like when dog and ship
are casting, we get these best
of threes go in the distance,
and I am all for it. We just
saw an incredible matchup Cafe
Rose somehow some way taking
down 100 thieves, but we're
going to have to wait to see
who is still going to progress
in this group because there
still matches to play before
we get there. We've got team
liquid citadel against. Yeah,
up because this is the pristine unbeaten team liquid Citadel going up against a raw powerful
year we lost. Yeah I mean I gotta shake off the last map for sure because we have to see we're
gonna see yeah we lost again who just have phenomenal showing yesterday versus TSM but it's
as you mentioned they're still raw they're still in the early sort of phase of a team especially
one that's unsponsored by the way I know they're still looking for sponsor somehow right
just the fact this team could make land
un-sponsored would be literally insane.
So that would be a team that is probably hot on the market
after pre-season. But regardless,
they will, like you mentioned, be going up against Team Liquid Citadel
who are without a doubt the best team in the group.
So it's a matter of is Team Liquid Citadel going to be rough versus
yeah, we lost on certain maps. Both these teams have a lot of aura
in terms of where they spawn camp.
Now, I mean, Team Liquid Citadel can somewhat struggle versus
you know, some teams like we saw versus like
the team. They're not going to
be able to. Uh you know, flak
Western stuff, but you know,
I'm very curious how they do
moving forward regardless
because yet Team Liquid said
it'll have and drop the map
so far. Um and yet we lost.
They're still very raw and have
lost in their matchup so far.
Let's take a deeper look at
Team Liquid Citadel. Then the
current leaders of this group
ship, and they definitely
don't look like they are
slowing down. They're going
to want to match the
feel about this team. Yeah, I
mean the only team that has not
lost a map. Yeah, that was the
case. Not wasn't the case
yesterday was swamped until fly
came in hot and did take that
from them. But this team on
paper is Team America. They
are just super old. We did grab
a few from overseas, but they
are just super stars across.
What's that? Did you say super
old? No, no, no, no.
Grabbed a few players from
overseas in in Polly there.
I'm talking about the cap
I'm just saying this team is all stars. They are team America. They've got so much talent on their team. Cooper, energy, Nero, Pauly,
Speedery, Spartjeeve. I mean, I could list every player here and talk about why they're in the conversation for the best in their significant role.
So like, they are just a really locked in team, haven't lost a map. And I think this is the ultimate test for, yeah, we lost a silence.
Maybe some of the haters and say we can compete against some of the best teams in Ignite.
night. And dog, uh, spark chief
took a little bit of the heat off
you and mace with his interview
yesterday, and I'm sure he'd be
looking to try and follow up here
in this matchup. But on the other
side, we've got Yeah, we lost who
are a team that have very much
impressed me since they arrived
in M R C and I'm sure you got to
see their run through the M R C as
well. How funny do you think
this team can go because they
had a small shake when they had
their matchup against SSG, but
then they responded well yesterday.
I mean, this guy's limit with
them for sure. Like I said
earlier, I think they remind me
of like the old Solaris roster in now modern day TSM, where they have a real identity and
you know, even if it's not necessarily the meta, they're still going to do things like a little
unorthodox. And I think that's, that's fine. It also works really well. I think as when these
patch drops happen, like at the very beginning of a new patch, it's always easy if you're running
an orthodox stuff to make teams experimenting and also figuring out what's good, a little
unnerve like nervous because they're always going to run this stuff. And as long as they have
their identity and style, they'll always be good at the beginning of patches. Now I'm
worried about them long term because of you know the fact that they do play such
weird things and unworth less things it's kind of what we heard in the
interview earlier from team from nobines you know a lot of these teams have
their gimmick and if you figure it out and you ban you know one or two
specific things you can look a lot better now regardless I think yet we
lost is an exciting team and I think they still can win this matchup and be
a team to make team liquid Citadel stress especially since they have such
a diverse amount of heroes they play so it should be fun regardless I want
I'm not going to be able to
be able to do that. I'm not
temperament expectations, maybe,
but I think they should if I'm
going to declare anything have
the best performance out of any
team versus team liquid Citadel
in just like that. I've cast
a curse them. I mean, a few
other teams or a couple of
other teams in interviews have
said that like teams like,
Yeah, we lost and swamper
chasing a little bit. And do
you feel like other teams
feel that way is because
just do anything to win. Yeah, it's a tricky answer, right?
Because I think, you know, there's multiple different answers to that.
Yes, they run unique stuff that maybe they don't scrim against.
And so I think teams sometimes will say, oh, they're cheesing us and we'll figure it out.
But you better figure it out then or it's not cheese. It's just really good, right?
And yeah, we lost has the ability to pull out some unique compositions that are working right now.
And I'd say TLC Team Liquid Citadel has been locked in and more traditional stuff and more meta stuff.
And they do it to the best, I would say, at the moment in all of Ignite with their record.
granted they have an easier bracket side I would say but still not losing a
single map shows dominance but this would be the team that could take a map
from them. And Doug do you think that like team
liquids is now here to prove a point here today to show that they're the
number one team? As we mentioned we saw Swamp Gaming drop a map but liquids
is now can still carry on to be unbeaten. They're gonna want to show
that they don't bleed and they're the number one team going into playoff
surely. I think so first map part of the trolley definitely want to prove a
point like you said especially after you talked about the the stuff going
between Spark Chief and light recently,
which is very interesting.
You know, this is why, I mean, I'll never,
I'll never believe this when people say like,
all these pro players at Esports and Marvel Rebels
have the personality of a wet rock, you know, like,
who the heck, like, what do you mean?
Like, look in the mirror, you know what I'm saying?
Like this is, these players I think are super passionate,
like you said, always trying to make a point
with Spark Chief, for example,
I think he's one of the most passionate,
fiery people in the scene.
And I'm sure, like you said, Gask,
He wants the 2-0.
Yeah, we lost and really show these guys are the number one
team in not just this group, but North America.
Well, team Liquid Citadel 2-2 on Burning to Charla.
They haven't lost it yet.
But of course, we know they haven't lost anything yet.
We have seen, yeah, we lost Luz on Burning to Charla.
What's your thoughts on this first map here, Shep?
Yeah, again, I think Burning's pretty good with Dive.
And yeah, we lost this great on that more thing.
They're not like a snowball comp, I like to call it.
Because it's Dive, true.
But it also is just the biggest stack in run at you.
And it works.
It can work, but the team that would figure it out would be Team Liquid Citadel.
You've got to try to find a solution to it.
I'm sure they've been looking at these comps, doing their homework and understanding.
This is a team that has a lot of cerebral players, so they're designing comps.
They're coming up with metas.
They're finding ways to make it work.
So, again, I think this is going to be a tough match, but I'm looking forward to
seeing how Team Liquid Citadel and if it's Liquid Citadel can shut this team
down and if it's just like a major return to sender type situation where they
just dominate or if they give them a run for their money.
that's what we're going to do.
That being said, it has been a
preseason of upsets and
surprises. We've seen teams not
necessarily where we thought
they were going to be. I know
a lot of talent predictions
and probably predictions with
you at home as well in that
eSports tab weren't quite as
spot on as you thought they
were going to be. Perhaps
you thought 100 thieves were
going to be winning their
group and now they're at
the risk of elimination. Are
you backing? Yeah, we lost
in this one, perhaps can
they shake up things and
the team is going to be
the best team in the world.
So if you have a question for
me, dog, do they have what it
takes against the team with the
structure of TLC or do you think
this is going to be more of a
one sided affair? I guess the
only way to find out is getting
into game. Let's jump into
those bands, guys. Enjoy this
cast. I'm sure it's going to
be a fantastic one is team
liquid. It's now versus. Yeah,
we lost. All right, my
friend. What do you say we
I think yeah, we lost can't do it, you know, like in officials, they've proven they they can,
especially with, you know, all the sort of swagger and or they had yesterday versus
TSM. Now, today's a completely different story. I think that team liquid Citadel are obviously
on another level compared to a, you know, a org like TSM at the current moment in this scene.
But, you know, we're going to be in for a treat regardless if we know anything out
of yeah, we lost and same thing with liquid Citadel. And I'm sure there's going to be
to be some typing in chat that we can't necessarily see.
And you see the lock in of Mantis here for Yewi loss
that's going to enable some of that poke,
that dive, that stuff that's a little more tricky to handle.
And they are going to allow at least for the moment
that Elsa's save coming in obviously,
because they did get rid of that gambit.
We're going to see some more traditional stuff
across the board here from these two teams.
And if you do allow that something like gambit
coming through, you usually want to get rid of the Loki,
but instead locking in the Mantis instead
just worried more about those crystals. Liquid Citadel.
It's interesting. I mean, obviously, yeah, we lost showing
they love to play that damage moves composition, you know,
no matter how you get it.
But for Team Liquid Citadel, they want to play around that Elsa.
Again, you know, we've seen how good energy could be on that hero and stuff.
And, you know, we've seen also for the same thing.
We get we lost the first time.
I believe Jitward in a while is going to be able to play the Daredevil as well, maybe.
So they have options.
They're getting one set of matchups.
That is a very interesting one.
Yeah, again, Burnett to Charles off the rip here.
They are going to save that Ultron.
We've seen Liquid Citadel run that comp better
than any team so far.
They've had it tested at one point by SSG in a mirror matchup
and it forced the team to swap.
So again, we'll see what they elect to run.
They have some options here, but I'll
tell you one thing that's for certain energy
will absolutely be on that ELSA.
Well, there it is.
Respect towards Poli on the cap as well
to get rid of the band or to get rid of Paulie's cap specifically and then for the
side of yeah we lost you know what they like they also can't play the Dr.
Strange because Liquid City don't want to make sure they don't have Kendrick on
that Dr. Strange who has been playing sewer aggressive and a very strong Dr.
Strange so far throughout which has kind of been sort of undertawned about
for sure ship like I know you could you can mention how good these Dr.
Strange plays have been but I feel like they've been super vital to like
them in the last series we saw big Dr. Strange plays but I think none
other than you know when we saw swamp gaming and day switching over to right
a lot of these doublest players can play a very high level doctor strange like
Kendrick can't yeah I think you just enabled when you have that in is that
team up allows you to keep people close I think if you can pull heroes at any
given moment it makes change more valuable because stranger the top level
and you know if you just want to play more properly essentially plays like a
melee hero you want to be on top of enemies constantly using your melee
between your autos and just bursting damage whenever you see a window that
would net you a KO and when you have that pull back it gives you another
opportunity to hit with another left melee animation camp with combo just to
keep the damage flowing so it looks really good although the hundred shield
boss was definitely a hit to strange across the board his portal will always
be valuable so he'll always be seen in matches and teams will have to stay on
him after that ball comes through as we start up here our first map of the
Dom yeah we lost liquid Citadel I should start now we get a C spark
chief on his Hulk yet again all these players talking about how or at least
all of the fans also noticing that Holt plays have been the number one feature
of this Ignite series but it's gonna be very hyper fast. Oh my goodness Cooper's
already gone. Yeah there's that snowball I was talking about. Walk forward the
whole team jumps on the back line goodbye to one. Jit we're gonna fall here
from speed or ego to try to even the numbers just a little bit. It's gonna
be a 5v5. They're stalling point for the moment and we're seeing a lot more
teams leave that central location open before breaking it where at least in
last night it was just broken in the moment the fight started. You've
going to fall there from Zatex.
Zatex going to be on that Mantis was locked in early on,
is going to also fall, but this time from Nero.
Back and forth we go across the board.
Polly is able to find one on his anthill
after Mass takes out Speedery,
and again we're back and forth.
Yeah, using the shield to stay alive.
Nice job to get the i-frames,
but surely after this, we'll go down.
Unfortunately, Mass's ult was not enough.
In the meantime, energy to do whatever he wants
and a little bit of laggage there.
But at the moment, Jitward probably turned around,
looking for his team in the previous fight.
I feel like for me, shit that seemed to be the reason they lost was, you know,
without that doctor strange aggression, Kendrick forced the anchor towards the
point. Whenever cart cooldowns were down, he didn't have any help on the
followup that resulted in jipwood going down early. We just saw a lot of solid
micro play there. Yeah, maybe we didn't see as much team coordination and
stuff, but everyone has claimed their own game and everyone was finding
value back and forth. They saw a pick come through that didn't like to
drop back as a unit and said, they said, Hey, you know what, we can
still clutch this and they did just that as we see now liquid set it
22% in climbing. Kendrick walking forward here on the Magneto. All the advantage is going to be
slightly in favor of Liquid Citadel as Energy has that Glartrox available and we have seen
what Glartrox can do even on the last map. But Energy goes down before he can even press
the Q button mask where they huge pick there is now taking priority on point.
Yeah great work from that to get the cross-map shot and immediate dive
on the Cooper like he said with the Maintains, but oh, Karr goes down to the middle of it,
Shit, that's brutal!
Yeah, that was a really good focus in Cooper.
She's the huge freeze followed up by an ultron, a range of ultron to keep him healthy.
It just could be huge here.
Bang!
It is gonna find Cooper.
And the point though is still being held by Liquid Citadel at this moment.
54% now.
As someone is still stalling and that someone is Polly on the band pool with Alt available.
Oh, wait, Santo...
Did he just lag out?
Oh no.
Wait, that could be...
Game turning.
Energy gets dove upon by Jintward in the meanwhile.
at least he can make it equal.
If you could find these KO's, but it's as you mentioned,
Pauly's still at that point for an incredibly long time.
Portal is also here for speedily.
They did not get the Dr. Strange band.
This is talking about the individual band system
that we have, because Dr. Strange is band free,
yeah, we lost, but not Liquid Citadel,
so they're still touching.
And we can see now that the guard truck's available.
Energy being a little more patient within it,
and that kind of has been over these series,
waiting for a perfect moment.
Pauly able to find mask,
and this is just textbook retake.
Unfortunate situation there for yeah,
lost who are unable to regain right now. Alt advantage still going to be up for
Liquid Sitted out. Energy going to be in a position where off map is available for
Glark Trot if they were to push up if they might be waiting for a portal. Oh wait,
yes, like I lied. They do not have portal like you mentioned, so they can
take it on the space if they so desire, electing not to insane drop back as a unit.
Yeah, I mean this is potentially fight winning right now for Liquid Sitted
over time six down. We're going next map already. Spark team committed the
ultimate at the very end at least three out we lost, but yeah that's
probably the reason we didn't see a pause by the way to was more than likely it was just a temporary DC, which is unfortunate after playing online.
Hashtag get these guys at team house hashtag pick them up somebody, but regardless, you got to keep playing right it's unfortunate you have to go next map.
And at least you got ultimates out out of spark cheap and Polly.
So maybe with their advantage they can go aggressive yet again shit because we've seen them do it before but I like how you pointed out to like the doctor strange one side of matchup that is the most glaring in this sort of.
the sort of specific band system that we had it's the most obvious point to what
can happen if you go for that one-sided Dr. Strange portal and in the band face.
Yeah I mean portal just has so much value like we were you know we had
touched on but you know it's great and down for retake for those early portal
players off the back of a straddle to buy you more time and I mean we saw
multiple times over Polly was holding point and speedery was able to
teleport in we saw that at least one or one time in this specific map but
that was huge for them they gave them the chance to turn that 56% into a
99% and that's everything in Dom. So great stall, great utilization of portal there. Yeah, we lost
we'll not have that option and Kendrick's been great on that a year old too. So just another
another shining bright little token there to be able to ban out strange. We see Carr try to
initiate fast. Speedery got to turn back or put drum in the backline and keep the pressure on
but does get hit by that feast. Oh yeah, pulled in. Antied energy comes back to peel off
Jitward who's got that boost, but no KO just yet.
Jackpot maybe on the back side comes through Jitward looking for backline.
Everybody's trying to peel him off, though, with this wolf ultimate.
So we still, or Fox ultimate, rather, as Zatek's also popping another
ultimate to keep up this aggression for every loss.
A lot of pressure out now.
Pauli going to launch all towards the backline, try to stall a little bit.
Has a ton of HP right now, still able to find Xanthel.
Is getting pressured, but not even looking right there under the venom of
card didn't even need to worry about it instead just trying to hold on so the
team can get here but I don't think that will be the case the meteor emiss
committed right there to does find one what a throw there by Kendrick Polly
finds mask though and the point still has to get to be taken Polly doing a
great job at owning this point over these last two maps yeah he really has
but the point still kind of a control by Yavi Austin till sports sheet comes
back so they're switching their HP out almost like they're playing in the
same computer ship that was literally some of the best I was saying play
play and Vanguard play. Yeah, that was dirty. I mean, that was insane stall.
Insane stall there still gets a pick through the chaos avoids, you know,
some ultimate speed committed finds another pick goes back to point.
And by that time, the team is back. This is just some really clean play by
liquid Citadel. Absolutely. I mean, we'll see if they can keep it up.
Obviously, a little bit of a pause going on in the in game client.
We're going to bring, I believe, Gask back in with the ship too.
So, I mean, overall, that was, like you said, just perfect rotations
out of spark chiefs switching out with with Paulie when he's low and I guess
maybe that's what you do when the likes of Paulie is so free compared to other
of these like really good dead bull players that we've seen I feel like
we've seen maybe not as much value found right like out of these band pools like
Paulie was doing. Yeah absolutely I'm with you right now I mean that was a
great test man I mean we also saw Paulie on the map one like we had
talked about just consistently on point and just peppering the backline at
all times and the comms have to be focused and maybe try to drop Paulie
first, but it's difficult into a van pool. It has a lot of solution has has multiple escape
tools, three escape tools with two dashes on sword does have the double jump has a
shield on range form. And then at any point when alt is available to get an additional
over health whenever he so desires. So there's a ton of tools are so it's very difficult
decision. Do you focus that van pool and try to burn them to get the point control
or you dive the backline which they have been doing, but it just hasn't been working.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to be said already about the two teams liquid sits
They're looking pretty strong though. It has to be said. I think that getting to see near or white fox is a lot of fun
I love to see anyone who's gonna be playing white fox at the moment because I really do think that she is defining
What a strategist can do and almost redefining that role as well with the some ways that people are playing her at the moment
Don't you think that yeah, we lost have a chance to get back into this one at the moment?
Or do you think they were just a little bit outmatched in that bandface?
Yeah, I think they do. I mean they've had the moments
you know, realistically, maybe they're in this potential deficit because of what
happened with Xantho, like who knows how that fight goes. Maybe something with
this one, right? Like because we're in a pause, who knows if they're having some
issues with that. Potentially, you know, maybe we have to hit up no binds to
try to get into his little space station or something. I don't know. Like I feel
like for Yeah, we lost. They do have a good shot and they love obviously
playing the triple composition with the Shrat pool alongside the Mantis. But
this kind of goes to what ship said and it's kind of a little apparent right now. What happens
when you put somebody on the on the van pool that could take advantage of not only that
HP pool that he has, but his damage output as well. HP pool. Yeah, that's the next one.
It comes out to the van pool and then we get Jewellers pool, then HP pool. Ship, it's
1-0 at the moment. And obviously, we know that, yeah, we lost. Do you have the potential
to get back into this, but with a pause happening, there is always a question of
who it benefits more. Do you think that this kills the momentum of Team Liquid or
you think that yeah we lost now they get that chance to just have a little little bit of respite
and reassess how they're going to approach this one. Yeah I'm not sure the root cause of what's
going on with the pause obviously but I will say I think yeah we lost needs this moment. I think
they need to just try to figure things out. Right now they're struggling with target priority
they're finding some success under the backline it's not even necessarily that they're getting
picks but they're driving them back but Polly is uncontested almost at all times and he was
not even turning around to Cart who's venom was just pummeling him he did not even mind he
was still getting picks looking forward and then spun around used cooldowns was able to stall
point come back after they put three on point to retake guys playing lights out
right now they've got to find a way to stop that and dog I mean I'm gonna talk
very far in advance now actually I might not need to say the game might be back
underway shortly it looks like the pause is almost undone so I'm not going to
say that question otherwise it might put in this in a situation where I
would have been questioning you things let's jump back into the game guys
enjoy this one take it away as we see Cooper speedery Nero able to find
3, Sparchief again on to Sam Foe and Liquid set it out, are doing a great job of maintaining
this presence on point after that pause.
Absolutely.
I mean like this goes back to with the power of Ultron alongside the Luna Snow, right?
Like it just feels like that back line.
You saw Jit were just kind of trying to get a KO and just couldn't.
It kind of goes back down to what you're talking about.
And you know they've really done a good job so far around playing around this Ultron,
the Luna.
I mean this has got to be one of the most, like the scariest things you can play against
right now into with America, the Cooper Nero and speedery back line. But we'll see what
happens. Everything fight. Yeah, we lost need to find a KO here. Early, you know, drone
over health used by the right click, but it's such a low cooldown. And that's kind of why
Adam Warlock maybe is not as good as the old strong. Yeah, good answer to some of the
snowball dive stuff is going to be that triple backline that can output, you know,
reverse damage. And that's exactly what they're running. Spark chief able to find
Xantho here card on the high side, trying to apply some pressure. I'm going to do
too much to the dance floor. Landing on the back line now is looking for something
There's commitment from mask here gonna be on that strap pool at this moment does have some experience available
Jip we're looking for a pick is able to find speedery and again
Not the Cooper energy though finds not mask and Polly finds car on to Nero for a third though
But still 82% and climbing is liquid Citadel
I mean every time right like the end of these fights and it's like you mentioned Paul these barks
He's still alive gave the ko's. I'm surprised by the way they got traded on the inside too
I don't know who it was. I think it was
Uh, was it Kendrick who went down like Kendrick or not? No, not Kendrick
It was uh, it might have been xanthor or car or something like they had somebody back there regardless and they traded
What was it all strategist? We're going it's already this map. Holy crap. They've done it liquid Citadel 2. Oh, yeah, we lost
Yeah, I mean, you know, you try to find an answer like we're saying to some of this dive more aggressive stuff
And I do think that that Ultron comp and having Fox are great solutions to that comp
And I think it was just shown right there. Yes, they may have gone down a few times
But then you look back on point and like you're saying the vanguards just are immune
They have full HP and they're pummeling your back line throughout that whole trade next thing
You know you lose the point. Oh like I feel like if we're not even like getting a KO with damage boosts
Like you have the the one with the with the strap pool with the mantis and stuff and they're still struggling
I mean my goodness like that they're trading such a so well the fan pool like you mentioned doing work spark chief as
well coming through with only one KO on his part
He's been living throughout these fights and this this would feel like really tough to deal with as a duelist player
Dude, like because you dive in you're like damn. They don't they don't get KO. They don't die
And they're taking half my HP out throughout the mix there
I know
Gaskin is we're gonna be a roll will pull you in after this short break of folks stay with us as this was a
Bit of a sweet beer, but we'll see if yet. We lost it bounce back right after this
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their second map at the moment.
We've got team liquid sits down
against Yeah, we lost and team
liquid are one Oh up against
Yeah, we lost. The real
team liquid. It's it's it's
still going to be unbeaten and
not even dropping a map dogman
initial thoughts. Do you think
that team liquid to tell are
going to do the 100% here? I
mean, yeah, I mean, like I think
really I just got impressed
with the Vanguard play. You
know, usually that's that's
more of like a shibs forte than
mine, but like they played it
really well. I mean, like
obviously you can play well
in Vanguard with you have a
to a sweep, but yeah, we lost for taking us to Shinchebuya, which is I imagine the favorite map
of theirs considering they love to run the divey stuff. Yeah, Shibuya was talking about diving
on Burn into Chala. Is it even more increased here on Shinchebuya? We've obviously seen teams
trying to hold the height as long as possible when defending. Do you think, yeah, we lost
another chance? Yeah, there's definitely a ton of dive potential here, but I also think it
lends itself to have some unique strategy because it's just such an open square on point one.
point one has had so many different takes and I'm not even sure what the best avenue is yet.
A lot of teams try to drop back and defend in that arcade, but then we saw in the past
cart go in there on Hulk and just sweep everyone right so they have solutions to different defenses.
I'm just not sure you know what bodes have to be better the better strategy on the map.
Yeah, it's going to be a question of you know, do you see mirrors happening or our TLC just
going to stick to their guns? Yeah, we lost going to change anything up. I mean, we can only
the game. I think I'm just
very impressed with how team
liquid Citadel have been
throughout this preseason very
structured. They know what they
want to do. They know how they
want to approach the games. Of
course, we spoke to the coach
of team liquid Citadel as well
and how they go about. Bands
against teams in targeting or
whether they just want to do
more generic bands as well,
and I do think that they've
really found that perfect
rhythm at the moment from
getting into picks and bands
into game and then just
and then just playing something that is comfortable for them.
Well, it looks like they are ready and the map is loading in.
So that means picks and bands are going to be happening very shortly.
So dog man ship, take us away to TLC versus YWL.
All right, my friend, and here we go again.
I got to say, and you say the same liquid,
so did I have not missed a beat there.
Yeah, we lost definitely struggled.
They're finding a ton of eliminations,
but it just doesn't matter when the point's not in your favor.
It's all about maintaining presence on down,
but it's a different story here.
So maybe things shake up as we see the double gambit removal.
Yeah, double gambit removal.
I mean, I do kind of like that, uh, that gas brought up their,
their coaches and like going through the band phase and stuff too,
because that kind of goes back to what, what he was saying,
what Gator said in the interview the other day was that legit,
their other coach on the squad is taking more of a role in that band phase
because it's interesting when he joined FlyQuest, it was when he came over
from, you know, the game that shall not be named and came over immediately
I'm not doing the band phase because I don't really know the meta. I'm just taking more care of like the players personally
But now he's more involved. So that's that's very interesting
I think how that dynamic shifted obviously is a very smart guy and as ours liquid Citadel
So they immediately go for that band that protect again on the Elsa after going through the band phase with the gambit
And ship this kind of goes back to what you said with with gambits being removed then letting the Elsa, right?
This is kind of an interesting sort of difference of opinion so far where we immediately get that mantis protect off the rip free
Yeah, we lost whereas both Gambit and Elsa who are seen as two top tier heroes this patch are removed on Citadel side
Yeah, and I don't like the band there of the van pull
I think we just saw infinite value from that so that's a good idea there
Obviously, they want to try to get energy back on the Elsa there because he's just dominant on the hero
He's up at the top of the conversation for the very best and we see the same there of the ultra
And the thing that kind of surprises me and I don't think it's necessarily a band target
But that ultra does a great job in countering what yeah, we lost wants to do
So I think that it's always going to be a solution for them. I'm curious if a band would do them favors
Well, see this is the this is the interesting thing
They're going for like the the counter Paul these hero pool strategy and she did all their other teams
We're like going for the the counter jitward strategy and said it was like ignored that liquid said they're like, okay
Whatever give jitward daredevil who gives a crap right and it's been working so far, right?
Like it's very unique because they're going after Paul is hero pool kind of like we saw out of other teams
Dr. Strange being again against the every loss and that might be in my opinion the linchpin to the you know potential
Fault the ring of the alley lost is that I just love this team a lot more
When they have Kendrick on Dr. Strange and not on Magneto just because it feels like the Magneto is a bit more of a rock
Ship as a vanguard player yourself. Why is that? Why is like when I was talking to Wab and stuff
He's saying like Dr. Strange is playing more like a dive character this patch
But Magneto feels like he's just like a sunken rock just kind of anchoring everything down
Why is that messed up the pace of the every loss? Yeah, I mean, Magneto in general.
This has a defensive play style and strange with the new jump buff that he received,
the momentum buff allows him to play so aggro and you can use that ultimate instead of
always being focused on countering, which you do a lot with Magneto.
You're trying to answer some sort of ultimate. You're trying to stop the strat.
But strange, you can just alt whatever you see a window because it can be massive.
It affects everyone around you. You can make huge team plays and Magneto,
it's always just an answer. It typically is just an answer.
So if we should play a little bit more defensively,
and I know we lost as a whole, yeah, they're reactive.
And the every loss doesn't like to be reactive.
They want to be forcing the teams to react to that.
Excellent point.
That's very interesting.
And we'll see if this is the reason why Yewie lost.
We'll lose today.
Maybe for Liquid Citadel side, the fact
that they've had so much respect towards Pauli
is what we've seen in the AMEA.
But it also puts Pauli back onto the bag.
Interesting enough, Shib.
So have they finally found a solution to Liquid Citadel,
or that it's going to have to deal with speedery back on the old front and this
backline triple comp that seems impossible to KO.
See in a moment, let the games begin folks.
I like the attack strategy from yet we lost here breaking down that wall and
playing on the left side.
You saw a lot of this in ignite stage one opening things up.
You don't ever want to get caught in the choke,
but you see a ton and ladder that will shake away completely at this level
of play and they'll always try to sweep and find a different avenue.
Cause just so just it is, you put you in a formal position just constantly
fighting in that choke.
We're trying to make a plan to backline forces out bubble there poly holding the height is also going to be on that
Magneto now and finds car in the backline looking for a two pieces energy takes out Z-tex
And that's a good start here for team liquid Citadel. Yeah, we lost us up all available here though for mask
Like we're gonna hold on until the team regrutes
Yeah, I mean Zantho goes down late. I mean that was they got a ticket the very least
But I think this comes down to first fight being a lot for building up towards that ultimate
The whole gang a little countered but the Dr. Strange being again
and coming into effect because you know should we usually see teams on
should we tackle for that portal flank behind play so you lose your setup play
that you've been doing every scrim basically just because of that band thing
yeah there's so many and I love the strange man honestly I think we talked
about liking it a lot it towards the end of last night and you know maybe not
as meta or you know just wasn't as consistent in terms of the band I think
this is really really smart from them as we see now out goes that commitment of
the band hammer Cooper able to find jip or Jart or card excuse me able to
find energy and that's the trade back.
Energy almost had out there too,
which is a tough look,
which feeder he's going to start up here
with a rate of ultra.
We're going to clean up Zatex
and that's going to put them back up in numbers
and find Zatex,
which is a huge pick very close there
to the sole resurgent.
Yeah, this is really a game of excellent track right now.
I mean, we move immediately from the last map
where I think Paulie was going off.
And now on this map,
it just feels like anytime there's downtime,
you see a pick off from somebody on the back line,
whether it be Nero or Cooper
or committing the whole ultimate though
from yeah, we lost side.
So they don't want to give up just yet as Paulie secures the objective.
Oh my god, they picked someone about about a dime.
There's that Meteor M. We're talking about defensively.
Not sure exactly what the goal of the counter was.
Doesn't seem to work.
There was energy.
He's able to find Kart right there.
I'll go to the bar, but that does not land.
But trying to pull, it does!
Oh no!
Kart on the Zaytex, huge play.
Does not get the pick there, though, but a good idea.
Chasing that to the off-angle is Kendrick now falls.
Paulie able to take out Xanthro with that counter as the hero also finds Jitward
and everyone goes down here.
For yeah, we lost. I
Don't know how you beat this team at this point shit like I don't want to you know give him too much gas or anything
But like they are uncaulable way if you're against the back line this like that's as strong as this and it's coordinated
What do they do here? Right? They need to get it get off some good old commitments
But it looks like the bunker play on the inside angle where the disengaged card has been brutal to change up
It's the book card in the venom and put you were back on the spider-man, but I mean Paulie still done whatever he wants
Look at him. He's all the way this out of the map
She's clean in house two almost finds three there speedery try to clean that up
Jitward trying to make a plan speedery here which we do with some good movement
Gonna drop back towards the dance floor to stay healthy, and I'm with you buddy
I mean looking at this team right now. They're running a very similar comp yet
We lost trying to do the same concept that liquid Citadel just shut down last map
You can't repeat something if it ain't working right the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing expecting a different result
But play right now liquid Citadel is really strong against this diet and it's supposed to show you there is a solution to this matter
Yeah, it's like, I mean usually three teams would play like the Wolverine and stuff in this case
They don't have to
Ultron comes bunkers so well, you know with around the also it looks like so far so energy
Just able to take care of this whole every single time of venom and again
Jit work goes down early Paulie comes back with other KO. That's two down and it is all it's just too late a
Lot of commitment. Yeah, that image is all it's just a little bit too late 10 seconds here
There'd be no portal play folks remember not on the table at all say tech switching over to Iron Man at that moment too
not sure the idea is there, but the laser is out.
Tries to run away and that moment is going to fall to energy from downtown over time,
still ticking down one on cart for the moment, but, and it is cart, what do you know,
but falls to Cooper and an absolutely flawless defense there from Liquid, set it out.
That was beautiful. That was beautiful. I can't even speak because of just,
it was just clean, bunkering on the inside angle, and this is what we talk about
when other teams are lacking or at least the the strength of when we saw
like other squads play well when a hundred thieves are playing well when
other teams were winning it's because their bunker bring on the inside
somewhere around a health pack usually in Shin Shibuya another map we could do
that and they even put their Ultron in there and it seems like they don't go
down they don't die even with all the damage boost if you play it
perfectly especially around Nero on the white fox which you guys talked about
a potential ban of the white fox that could come out I wouldn't be against
it because I mean Nero comes back with that TP can save anybody that's
one HP gets healed up throws a shield around them and it just feels like yeah
we lost have no counter to it like it doesn't matter how much damage they do
because inevitably they're gonna lose a vanguard look at that stat line just
across the board beautiful plays energy the only one to go down I mean I don't
think there's an argument against liquid Citadel's backline right now
this is the best backline in North America yeah I fully agree with you right
now I mean it's proven to have it lost a single map going against the
best other team I would argue or you know in the conversation with the
So we can in this in this inside of B right in the B second think a side has a ton of competition as well
And we'll see what that shakes out like as we move forward again both these teams are progressing
It's all about seating here
The idea was to see how we ever lost before into a team like with liquid Citadel
And I'll tell you what a liquid Citadel are looking like they're really not struggling too much here
It will see how they do if they change things up you have we lost going for a bit of a gimmick play ship to do when
Zaza, Zatek's gonna be over to the black widow and they're gonna get the main
dish damage moves to try to find one shots on defensive all things. Yeah I
think that's the maybe counter the ultron if not just to be a little funny
and cheeky I'm not really sure what the goal is but we'll see if it works out
in the first widow play. I love it, I love to see it. I'm sure the widow mains are stoked all
four of them as Cooper also falls here to Zatek's showing up right now on
the window trying to get out of the map here as the best
player of stats. Get another one. Get another one. Oh my
goodness. He's close to dude. This is going to be like that one
highlight reel you'll see in like a CS match where they'll
like they'll be like whoa they're about to pop off crazy
highlight and it's just like 30 seconds. This could be only
Zatek's two shots. That's it's going to be hilarious later
on. Maybe he keeps going. Wait they got energy. Call
it to a suit ship. They're winning.
Sparchik evils Z-Tex and there's that pick on the widow.
Will not be, obviously, res in that moment.
Sparchik taking the zone right back, pressing in.
Seems like they seem to have a little bit of fun with it.
Sparchik gonna drop back, try to get this health pack
Dutchess back and movement.
Speedery in danger.
With a ton of the front line, it drops right back
to the back line off map,
or not even needing to, is Mask who falls to Sparchik.
Yes, pretty much over.
I mean, beautiful shot to the Z-Tex guys.
Somebody make the highlight reel after this game
of just him hitting that kill or KO.
gets kicked away, saves his stats and a KO.
Huge job by Zayac taking a loss, you know?
That's like Chris Paul, cussed the lead down by 40
and risked the piece of my sons.
But, Liquid said it'll get it done,
Shib, they win 2-0 over Yewey lost,
I think in hindsight, very, I guess, expected result.
Yeah, I think that was just a mental break at that point.
I don't think Yewey lost, believed they had that
and so they were just changing things up for fun,
but that is, if a team could do that to you
at this level of play, that just shows that
maybe this team is at another level than everyone else.
I'm looking forward to seeing what they stack up to and everybody else in the
A side bracket coming up here as we move forward over these next couple weeks.
Well, I mean, now everyone in ranks to be playing Black Widow.
That's what I've established from that one.
And I'm concerned, but they take certainly put on a little bit of a show for us as
they were, of course, taking a bow, exiting that matchup.
I think we knew it was a foregone conclusion by that point team.
Liquid Citadel just look too good.
They look unbeatable at the
moment, so polished, so clean.
No one really able to touch them
and they will be marching through
to playoffs undefeated. The real
question is when we get to
playoffs, can we see teams start
to test them a little bit here,
dog? Because at the moment they
just seem to have got by every
single question that's been
asked of them, whether it's a
dive composition, whether they've
had to mirror where they've had
SSG in the playoffs and because they look better this week and stuff, but uh, I mean, the only team that really stressed this
This team liquid Citadel squad out was was team lunettes who have a who have a chance to get eliminated, right?
So that's like actually insane that
Week one day one that was the toughest match team liquid Citadel had which was losing a single round on for Koa
So they haven't struggled since then and yeah
that's what happens after a
meta gets established in the
top team starts to really put
their foot down and really set
the meta. This team is really
good, and I don't even know if
they don't. They look way better
than it last week, and I'm
scared for the foresee coming
on a group A now. On the
other side ship for Yeah, we
lost. They still progress
through to play off, so they
won't be too disheartened.
They've certainly learned a
lot of lessons coming into
Have they learned enough lessons that they're going to be able to improve from what they've
had so far in the early stages of group stages here?
Yeah, I think they're a solid team.
I mean, they absolutely smoke and dominate some teams, which is super important.
But I think they have been downloaded at least by Liquid Citadel.
I think they need to go back to their homework to try to find a way around this comp that
they're really solid at.
They run this Ultron super well.
Shreedery didn't go down a single time there on the Ultron in that map and maybe
didn't get a ton of chaos.
But that's not really the point.
The point is to protect that back line from some of this dive that's there
and absolutely did that.
a lot of the background only goes down one time, right?
The next is energy with three
and he was just playing hyper aggro
just in as many picks as possible.
So they have the solution comp to this team.
I wanna see what else Yewey lost can cook
to try to push forward against the team of this caliber.
Doug, do you think there's a case of Yewey lost
played the wrong teams to begin with?
Like is there a world where
had they played team liquid in day one of this tournament,
then this might have been a different result
because they seem to catch teams off guard
at the start of things.
But now people have kind of learned how they played
or am I reading too much into it?
No, I think you're absolutely right.
I think that Team Liquid said it all.
I could see them week one, day one or two
definitely being cut off guard.
I think they're 100% on the mark there.
But it's a matter of now it might be too late, right?
It's like you've let this main character
just keep getting stronger and stronger.
It's like the final boss was like,
show up at the beginning.
It's the classic like thing,
like the main character's like,
I'll get you at the end, you know?
And then obviously the main,
obviously the boss gets dominated by the main character
because he's still OP at that point.
So it's very much so in that regard.
And also the meta is disgusting for them.
And especially to keep playing in this way,
because all they're doing is playing like Shib said
around the Ultron, not dying.
And what they do is they have Cooper in the back line
doing damage down range,
kind of playing that sort of main strategist.
And then obviously same thing sort of where speed.
But then you have Nero,
who is kind of doing whatever he wants,
but rubber banding,
where he's like on an off angle,
doing crazy things on White Fox with the diver,
like sparky for whatever.
And the moment he sees Cooper
or his ultron get low. He's just TP'ing back and just playing with them and then they KO'd
the tank. So it's like it's just such smart play. And this is a really good metaphor to
squad. I'm sure that now teams will be studying team liquid citadel as they will be swamp
gaming as well and trying to find where the strengths and weaknesses are. But shape,
you were saying they've they figured it out. They've stopped dive. What do you
bring that down to? Is it white fox? Is it as simple as that? Or is it something
a little bit deeper? Well, I think looking at the stats is a great way to show this.
So I want to draw attention.
Speedery has the most healing on the team with 8k.
Obviously, look at Mask and Xantho.
They're at 11 and 13.
So the healing is not even what I'm trying to reference here.
And you look at the damage numbers.
Cooper and Nero, both at 8, 7, and then Speedery at 9.
And I'm talking the same damage as Energy at 9.
They are just focused on dealing damage and healing
only when they need to.
They are just bursting everyone down
that aggresses them in the back line.
They're allowing Fox to do some crazy stuff.
Well, I'll try and just protect them and heals them
and gets the most healing numbers in the game.
you know, I'm sure you guys
are feeling pretty good right
now. I just want to ask you in
general like you seem to have
figured out this matter. What
do you bring that down to? Is
it just studying other teams
or have you just been focusing
on your strengths as a squad?
Well, maybe we can find out a
little bit more from the horse's
mouth because we have an
interview now. We've got
speedery who is going to be
joining us here after a very
as a squad?
Well, I think we've got the meta figured out pretty well.
I think it mainly boils down to knowing which characters are the strongest.
And for this patch, I would say it's mainly Vanguard, Deadpool, Elsa, and Gambit.
So I think we mainly send to our bands around those and also our saves.
So that's like what we've been doing.
I mean, you guys have looked untouchable thus far. How far can it go, though? Like, your
sights must be set on winning preseason now to just trying to assert some dominance. Do
you have a particular team you think is going to be your biggest challenge? I mean, Swamp
Gaming obviously comes to mind.
Uh, yeah, I think we can't really be too excited about this current group stage,
because I think our group is easier than the other one. But yeah, I'd say Swamp
is probably our team to be the hardest team in the other bracket for sure.
Well on that note, you know obviously since the the number one seed is steadily in your hands at
this point right like out of all the teams that could be that four seed in the other group who
would be kind of the the most interesting matchup for you and also like because if you
get rid of the tournament early on like who would you feel between Sentinels energy
Is there any specific team that you're surprised first of all that will be a four seed because you said it's the Harvard group, but you know who do you kind of want to play against in maybe the hardest matchup for you.
Um, I feel like they're all pretty similar in strength, but maybe maybe NRG is probably the hardest team to be in the fourth seed if we were to play them.
Is that like a stylistic things like a matchup thing specifically, which just they'd look
like the strongest in practice and it's not like they're doing necessarily well against
you guys or something.
Oh, let's say yeah, they just looked the best in practice.
I think they have like a better grasp on the meta and they have pretty strong players.
Perfect.
Shaking up the questions a little bit, bud.
You guys are banding out strange.
Is that more targeted to Kendrick?
I've always said, I think the strange man is awesome because he gets rid of the
retake potential and that completely removes it from the idea of what you
have to worry about. Can you walk me through the thought process there?
Yes, it was pretty targeted towards Kendrick. It's, uh,
we've watched back their matches and that dude just flies in with a hundred
charge and maybe one shot someone. And you're also thinking that since I'm
on Ultron, if he can like fly at me or something, that'll be really annoying.
And also the third team that really likes to do like the TP like kidnapping play on on a lot of maps
So we figured yeah, we should probably take that away from them
Beautiful yeah, I'm loving the change of band for you guys this season for sure. Well done
It does seem like you guys have everything figured out at the moment speed
This is a chance where I'll give you an opportunity to maybe shout out any any fans any friends or all your teammates
What have you got to say to the world that's watching possibly the best team in the region right now?
Well, I give a shout out to my team and my coaching staff, especially Gator and legit
They've done a really really good job at helping us understand what's good and what's bad on the current patch and
This team is just awesome to be around. So yeah, shout out to them
They are definitely awesome to watch as well. Congratulations, my friend. Enjoy your winning moments
you in playoff. Thank you.
Congrats, buddy. Well, there we
have it the unbeaten, untouchable,
undefeatable team liquid said that
can anyone reach them when we get
to play off skies because that's
going to be the question that's
going to be burning on the tip of
our tongues. I'm sure, but now
we get to shift our direction in
conversation from an unbeaten
the next match up and I don't
want to give away too much. But
of course, Cafe Rose are very
much riding on this one as our
100 thieves. And after the break,
of course, we will figure out
just what we need in both of
these matchups. Quick
prediction from you, dogman. If
you had to give me right now,
energy versus send one word.
Who's winning? Uh, N is in the
team name. That's awesome.
be at the demise of Cafe Rose or 100 Thieves. We'll find out a little bit more after this break.
Remember to dance to the lights, gripping tightly,
trapping all those lighting souls, buddy.
Yeah, across the world I see you standing in my way.
And remember the time, the place we used to fight,
when sun and moon and time wonder.
Whether it was a tender heat or a price,
my hands falling in shadows, no man and me.
That's a past no one may seek you out.
We are sent out for a last reunion
Break the chains, hide your way
Come for me
Do you remember who you really are?
Show me that you are still the only one for me
I'll be waiting for you
Let me get out of your crossroads
We say nothing to sense my skin
Don't start a war
You're full of risk with drugs again
We are level to the end
Clear the way!
Feel the pull!
Disappear!
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We have 100 thieves and Cafe Rose waiting in the wings with baited breath.
If energy win this game, Cafe Rose are out of the tournament.
If Sen win this game, 100 thieves are out of the tournament and will not qualify for playoffs.
It is insane what is on the line here, Shib.
I mean, we couldn't ask for a better matchup here in preseason.
Just so funny that if Sen, it's like you get vengeance right now on 100 thieves.
It's just so classic the way it all works out like this.
I mean, you know what?
Why not at this point?
This is insanity.
Everybody's so close that this one matchup
can determine the fates of almost every team.
It's absolutely obscene, dude.
Absolutely obscene indeed.
Let's take a look at our first roster then
because it is a chance to look at this Sentinel squad,
who obviously there's been a back and forth
between them and 100 thieves.
And now they have the opportunity
to put them to the sword dog told me through this roster.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's it's it's the new dogs coming in and energy, right?
Obviously our new partner teams, but Sentinels have been around forever.
The story. So it is funny that the implication does have impact on 100
these in teams. Sentinels is completely different than the old version of
Sentinels, right? The one with nectar on it, which I'm sure they're kind
of missing to a degree just because you sure the new guy on the block has
been solid, but based on what we've seen out of Ushur in the other side, it's still been
impressive. But the whole squad still obviously has the core back after taking a break coming
back with Carova, Rai Mazing, and Crimson. But it's interesting as well to have Mier who's
been that hard flex comes in sometimes for a Carova and has looked solid in his outings.
But regardless, I mean, this team, I would say, I don't know if I would say it's
the most talented version of Sentinels we've seen thus far, but they're definitely
the most. They have the most
to prove, I think out of any
central squad that we've seen
in the history of Marvel
Rivals, eSports. I think
amazing tweeted out and said
time to lock in and save
Cafe Rose as well. They have
the fate of other teams journey
in their own hands. Now on the
other side, we have NRG shock
ship. Talk to me about NRG
shock because I personally
really enjoyed what they've
had to offer here as well.
Yeah, a new team as a unit,
but they're locked in. I
mean, Chai, moderate,
and they've got so much talent.
It's just a matter of can they
lock in and figure it out,
understand the comms cut through
all the noise and make the plays
they intend to make properly.
They've showed that they can
beat some of the best teams
and they showed that they can
lose in situations that they
should have won.
So this is a team that is
make or break and right now is
an absolute make or break
moment.
And obviously as well as other
teams being dumped out of the
competition, these two teams
are trying to get a better
seed going through as well.
I think with how it works
and how it works, it's
going to be a great
opportunity for the team
to get a better seed going
through as well.
I think with how it works
that's going to be the best
seed going through as well. I
think with how it works, even
if either team were to lose, they
go through on tiebreakers, which
is why we see cafe rows and 100
thieves under the microscope a
little bit of all while who is
going to be eliminated from the
competition. But whoever wins
this gets a better seed going
into playoffs and arguably plays
an easier opponent. I say
arguably because it seems like
every single team that's
you know these guys very well?
Yeah, I mean, like obviously they
have a lot of guides in the bench
to that are sitting around like
you mentioned like she mentioned
and I know a lot of people been
talking up time, so I really like
that that guy's been playing better
recently also flexing to a lot of
different heroes. I mean,
I think it's always impressive.
I think she ben I can can attest to
in the past of MRC guys like some
of the players get left behind,
but time definitely not one of them.
The fact that he got picked up for
is awesome to see as our first map will be Celestial Husk.
Hip thoughts on Celestial Husk.
We've seen a win for it on NRG already this season.
Haven't seen Sentinels play on it,
but obviously we've had quite a bit of Celestial Husk.
This should be an exciting one to open here.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I think this map lends itself to some weird compositions.
I think that their one map, the indoors map,
I wish I knew it up the top of my head,
is a little more tricky to run.
Dives up and outside of that,
the other two are very dive focused,
and you can really stall for a long time with Venom.
there's a lot of central structures to play around.
You know, you could see potentially,
you know, the Cubs can be crazy.
And I say that because Sentinels has run a lot of weird stuff.
So I really don't know what they're going to come out the door with.
But that I think is the main question.
I think Sentinels, they're known for weird stuff
and they've found some success,
but you can't get away with those unique Cubs forever
into a team that's going to lock in on the meta heavy.
So we'll see if energy does just that.
We'll find out in a moment.
We will.
It's going to be such a strange scenario
for both of these teams.
basically having another squad relying on them to win,
praying that they're going to win,
praying on the other teams down for,
well, there's only one way we can find out
who's going to be progressing into playoffs.
It's Sentinels versus NRG Shock.
Guys, take it away.
All right, my friend,
this is an intense one for sure.
I know there's a lot of eyes on here,
whether it's for these two organizations,
which absolutely want the better seed
or for the two organizations that are on the line.
We're going to see the band of Gambit off the rift,
removal of Mantis in a lock
for both. Yeah, immediately
versus usher Elsa mismatch
which is going to be a ton
just mirroring on both sid
we've seen out of both sqa
it kind of goes back to w
in the interview with sch
this group and in what G
this group is definitely r
I think even if a team d
I think every team in this group has been really good.
And Group B, I think it was a little bit more top heavy.
So regardless, it's like you mentioned,
you want to get that better,
so do you want to maybe get that favorable matchup?
You know, do you want to play against them?
We lost potentially, which would be insane
if you have to play against them,
but Captain America, a band pool, band,
this is a very similar band phase
to I believe we saw out of actually, yeah,
we lost when they got rid of the band pool early on,
but it's in the domination first
as the Ultron is protected.
And some respect there to Crimson,
moving that cap, Crimson, a very strong cap as well, you know,
off there with Polly in terms of band focus gets that band a lot,
but I think Polly absolutely takes the cake because we've only seen it one time
and like forever.
So that's just the case, but you could see Crimson immediately go into that
venom. So it does have some versatility and Dongmin actually going to be on
the group, which is another character that Crimson runs well.
So you can see the change up is Dongmin has been running a lot of that
magneto and been more of a mainstay on point.
Yeah, he's kind of been that anchor a lot of the times for this squad
and previous Trotex rosters and the Galactic and stuff.
So he's definitely that dude that loves to just lock it down
for Crimzo to switch to that diving role,
which is interesting too,
because Crimzo is more of that group player,
like you mentioned, for him.
And then for energy shocks side,
they get to play potentially the Doctor Strange stuff
with Madara as well,
who loves to play a lot more of that character
who's leveled up as well.
And then Windo has been that ultra flex God.
So this is gonna be a ton of fun
on Celestial Husk.
And like you said,
What a better way to to see potentially what happens to a hundred thieves of Sentinels were to win and then same thing for energy shock and cafe rose so a ton of stuff on the line and you know with all the drama with all the stuff.
We still have to go see the games themselves. You know can you sure step up be that guy Sentinels need to fill in the shoes of nectar and can energy shock and chime finally cement themselves as some of the best do lists in the game.
going to see if this is an aggressive portal. No, it's going to be a set up portal to get
on point early. Said Crimson there on the Venom getting ready to dive the back line. You sure?
Obviously going to be on that Elsa and match right back by Chime. We're going to see how
that works out in a moment. Stinkers on the Ultron.
Mottaro going to be playing. I mean, little front line here. Got a love to see it. We'll
see who gets the first pick, but priority on point for the moment is NRG.
It is interesting too that that meter is going to be the lineup yet again over
Kurova with Flamme also being in that low key. So they're going to be playing sort of bunkered up together cohesive as a unit trying to make plays in the back side where it's used to already taking
Crimson so or window so low but he comes back falls back to the heel to the squad and should we might see early strat old to this upling fight in less when these two or three
else those goes off. You can get a feel right now that you're trying to just understand each other to play a little slower. They're not trying to over
Oh!
Ooh!
On a moderate was a good start.
Ranko in a dangerous spot with a good teleport out to the point.
Likely will be capped here in a moment by Sentinel.
The retake comes through as Chang finds one to try to even the odds just a little bit.
And down goes Crimzo.
Window stalling point for Gaze and that's the power of a cap with a drone.
Dongin now very low in ATV but Ryton Azen got a press the Q button with that range of Ultron.
Matt's right back with the dance floor.
Portal comes through for moderate though.
So even the numbers once more that is going to be an all charge reduction there for moderate.
But before the glossies in the back line able to take down the door to that's a huge pick-off trade yet again
And it's what's what's more?
I mean you have the old trans rage the source thought staggered up and we still not camp
But it's kind of what speed will be brought up earlier in the interview is that these dr. Strange at full charge
Canada stop delete you and speaking about deletion rest in peace chime and window a
Good shot there by you sure walking forth on a three now
We'll receive four and five looking for five come on now you sure sending them right back to the spawn door
10% on and climbing Sentinels would have you all the advantage after that fight to going exactly the way they want it
Yeah, so far this has been kind of everything Sentinels has wanted got holds out
He got chimes ultimate the guard trucks removed and won the fight you get set up your own here shit
For energy shock to be to make sure not to be will get stuck in this ultimate
Sees think I was trying to build they're just trying to play a way to find a way to get in there and force out
Something crims all with a nice combo there waiting that two seconds to ensure that all pops at the same time as those tendrils
Window trades it chime able to find another now numbers up to the side of energy shock walking forward
Can they get this point moving 41 up here?
Percentinal to nothing how goes that freedom charge window just going to send them on a ride maze
We're trying to escape in that moment able to move like crazy the schmooge. It looks gross as the fox goes out
But motto is able to find ride mazing in the mix on the emma
See more power and more damage coming out here from window
Well, Dongmin got two at least, but I mean, we'll see.
They're probably still going to lose this fight,
Tenzinos will.
I mean, maybe they have a chance here,
but losing Dongmin's pretty rough.
But what happened to Yuzha's ult?
They're actually going to come back into it,
so they do want to stall it out.
It's not over just yet.
I'm really wondering what happened to Yuzha's ult
in the previous fight.
Yeah, that was a huge pick from Dongmin
in the mix of that chaos.
Finding two that really stole the pace in 75% now
percentiles.
This is exactly what they're looking for, just stalling
for as long as possible.
portal comes out now from John Minckley to ensure it is now a 6v6. Now goes to
Boundary. John Minckley finds what he's on the window and that is some more
clean play here. As Sendil just keeps this going.
Alright I'm convinced we probably can't be given these trip teams cap or not
caps sorry Dr. Strange. I think that so far we've seen it. I mean he's just
able to do whatever he wants flies in there. We take a look back at the
band phase too. I mean they can't really peel him off without the
invisible woman. So that sort of impacting things. Sentil's win. Round
number one in Celestial Husk
due to their overarching just
oppressive aggression and then
also playing back at the point
to wait for the squad to regroup.
Yeah, that was decided right there.
Sentinels just looked super clean.
They played exactly the way they wanted
to. We wanted to see if Sentinels
would step into their own and look
like the team we've known.
We've grown to know in love over time
and they've been struggling a little
bit on off days, had some shiny moments
and then fell back down into the
whole little bit. But right now
I'll tell you what, they are locked in.
For me, not going down a single time
2 is always going to help.
Those BRBs are ready, likely going
to be using that rocket right now.
Instead, to just get the team some packs,
but we'll see if this switch comes through.
Yeah, I think at the moment for energy shock,
they really have to do a better job at shooting the Donglin.
I mean, you see, Madara went to that Emma
to at least slow them down.
But it seems like, even with the damage reduction and stuff,
it's not enough to stop Donglin.
Or even get those KO's because the back line healing
is too much.
Mir's doing a great job playing
that extra, you know, heal support whenever he's going over to the invisible woman is to get the speeds on speed out of spawn also the grains to the low key positioning has been great from for may well see if it keeps up though on this next round as energy
shock again and try to take advantage of windows camping America velocity on the Luna now to provide a little more damage chime does have that large rocks available you sure going to be very close to it's all about who gets the bigger eight
Tech's creditor is right amazing goes down from Chime from downtown what a shot there to put them up a number
And our G trying to get on the board quickly
Yeah, that was fast. I mean Chime huge play in only tier one else about as well. So mirror goes down again
Oh, no before he views cooldowns brains now utilize
But I mean he can't even use ulcer here shortly because Chime is just farming us
Yeah locked in right now Chime able to find a three piece trying to fight for here as moderate takes out
Dongmin on the front line like you called out was a necessary focus there and NRG look angry here
But again altered vintage for sentinels, but only for a brief moment
It's all about can NRG stall this for a little bit to get alts be even out here and try to hold on to this point for as long as possible
But are I gonna try to run?
When it kind of makes sense. They don't want to play that doctor strange to at least go to the Emma considering that RSA
Heart target for the side of energy but regardless cooldowns you right you're making sure midori
at least forces out all these cool downs, has to back up.
Ultimate still available for Sentinels.
They want to peel off the land.
Ooh!
Barshawn?
That is massive.
That is so massive by Chime.
Right through the chaos, through the range of Ultron, able to fight for May, and Usher
there, well done.
And by the third, Chime is stepping up right now and clutching for this team with a
pent-up!
Come on now, Chime!
Oh my goodness.
I mean, really, statement game so far out of him.
If they can keep it up.
Now, when this round, I mean, huge large rocks, obviously, first of all,
Yusha's been doing great in the neutral like we saw earlier,
but now Chime not only doing good in the neutral,
but also connecting with the large rocks.
Yusha has to be big in the subsequent fight,
has to hit a big large rocks.
We're going to see what happens now.
Four ults available for either side.
It's all about value. The initial start.
Those first ultimates that get value,
always put the team at a heavy disadvantage.
It's more tricky. Dong mid with a huge pick there
on a moderate of 5-1.
Velocity going to start the damn floor now.
Thumb in holding on to this Q could be an insane play.
There it is!
On to the whole team!
As sneakers go down, looking for more here.
Rymezing doing a great job on this Ultron too.
Now goes to Fox's stall for even more time.
Here comes the portal from Madara to ensure they can stall even farther.
And that's the idea of committing those straddles,
portaling in, switching that strange and staying on the point.
You sure find one.
Crimzo, Dongmin gets one.
But still the point ticks to 90 plus as NRG Shock
or hold it on. Yeah, both vanguard just jumping in and out of the portal, getting
health coming back. Inevitably, they're actually hitting Ultron, too, in the sky
from Rimeism just to make sure that portal was sent back away, but that's 99%
for energy shock. At least they get the Ultimates out regardless. Actually, they're
pushing so far to try. Now, the problem is we've just lost Madara
again earlier on in that previous fight. Need to make sure he doesn't do that
again. Also, not set up Dongmin. Make sure that his cooldowns are used
early and doesn't fly in on that Dr. Trink.
There's that car truck, because it land.
It seems to maybe pull the front line.
Drink will get frozen, tries to use feet,
but it gets canceled once more by a tackle there from Madara.
He's doing a great job now, once again,
peeling after struggling a little bit early on.
Usher finding velocity, though, trying to make it a two piece.
The telebot comes through.
Usher now wants to step up here and does find two.
Maybe three, yes, as the whole team falls.
It will go, once again, in Sentinel's favor,
but NRG only need to win one additional fight.
They need to build ults and commit together.
Yeah, at least you forced out more on the side of sentinels.
Right, they missed the large trucks, I believe.
They also used that Venom, who did get canceled by Madara.
But in the macro terms, in the macro scheme of things,
I actually like energy chances moving forward,
unless Dongmin hits the big eye of Agamotto.
So here, we're amazing at 60% in climbing,
holding that space right now.
Velocity trying to deal as much damage
does have that damn floor available.
Venom lands in and Chine finds a huge pick early
on DiFlamet once more.
That is pure value there.
66% here for Sentinels.
Also ready for NRG as Tinker starts up here.
Early on, the Gorka goes for the jump was there.
That was a massive clutch jump.
The feast of the Abyss on the backline doesn't get turned
around, the dance warp goes through.
The damage boost tries to find something there,
trying not to make it happen.
We see a lot being committed.
Another invisible boundary.
We see Mirror find one on the Stinkers.
And now we see Usher take out Shai.
And this is going back in Sentinels favor after all of the chaos,
way to stay cobcore and collected there by Sentinels,
who find another and another pick window, taking out mirrors, just not enough.
And I don't know if they can get here.
Yeah, they have a beautiful place out of Dongbin.
I mean, like, I feel like Chime was winning in this 1v1 for Usher,
but Usher coming back, looking at those main tanks,
looking at the main vanguard of Energy Shock,
and they don't have that pull because they used their earlier shift.
Over time, it's ticked down slowly.
Sentinels are maybe pushing off Energy Shock, nice free throw onto Usher.
No one touches though on the side of any shock and it's done.
Sentinels have won.
Wow, just really clean movement there.
I mean, Dominion on that range, you talked about the value.
That was a huge jump on that Galar trucks.
That was clearly intended to burst down the front line quickly.
It was just potentially like game winning because from then on,
the team kind of panicked throughout a ton of ultimates,
sent those slowly, returned it around on them, committed a few,
played com, going collected and come home with a W on domination.
Excellent work out of that squad.
And I think that you mentioned it,
like dogmen just did not like want to lose, man.
Like that guy was going off on Dr. Strange.
And I feel like ever since Spearly pointed out
that Dr. Strange impacts so far,
it's been even 10 fold, right?
Like the moment that Dr. Strange comes through,
do we now we see that,
that we see the ban on the Dr. Strange come through
or is energy maybe not as you kind of forth,
like they're not thinking about it as far
as the side of Team Liquid Citadel were.
Yeah, I'm not sure what's attributed that to you.
I mean, I'll tell you what,
Sentinels just looked really calm there.
I think that was their advantage.
They're playing that venom very well.
They're constantly annoying the back line,
allowing Dongmin to take a ton of free space
and there's really nobody that can stop this ultimate
from Dongmin.
And that's the kind of advantage
of having a mag as the main meta and T-play like this.
You just get those three else consistently
and they're constantly converting well done there.
But we're gonna see more of this.
Will Sentinels send 100 thieves
out of this tournament early on in the pre-season.
We'll find out after this break.
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You're the only thing I have in my head
I sing high-pitched songs
I'm looking for you, I'm going down to go
I'm going to have a great time, dance with me
Don't don't be down, I'm ready
I'm going to have a great time
I'm going to fly to you, I'm going to feel you
the 99 there dog. But really,
I thought maybe it was going to
go at least to three rounds,
but Sentinels just seem on top
of things here. Yes, they just
seem to be pressing every
binge they have. And there was
moments honestly where you saw
Chime popping off and really
doing everything you could
picking off by amazing early
and stuff. You know, I don't
think we saw a lot of the other
Ultrons get picked off like
that, but that's just because
Chime is winning in that 1v1.
But you know, it doesn't end
up mattering if if Dongman
just going to put the team
on his back, right? Like at
like at the end of the day,
that's what it was like.
Donman was dodging everything.
He felt like he was in the matrix,
right? Like there was so many things
that Donman did right.
And just it didn't feel like he lost
a step at any moment.
Now, Shib, we were just talking
about the importance of Doctor Strange
and how you kind of need a strange.
It feels like with this kind of
matter at the moment.
Is there a world where we see what
we saw in the previous game where
strange ends up getting banned in
this picking ban phase?
Or do you think that that's a
little bit too far right now?
Yes, yeah, I can see it.
I think Strange's value right now is the fact that there's no real mag play in this current meta,
not as much, unless you're really trying to mainstay and try to go poke heavy.
But a lot of the dive in this meta and triple backline is super vulnerable to the Strange ultimate right now.
These eyes are getting so much value and it clearly worked for them right there.
I mean, I do think Mirror playing Invis absolutely enables Dongmin.
So we'll see if maybe the Invis command comes through and that helps change things.
But I'm with you. I think it's on the table for sure, but we'll see.
What about for you dog? Do you think we need to see some big changes coming here in the
picking band face for NRG? Or do you think that they could probably juke out and still
be able to find a way? Yeah, I'd be down for that like last second or third or third or
fourth band to be Dr. Strange. Like I'm down for that. That's a vibe. But also on
the opposition, like if I'm sensitive, maybe I think about protecting it this map, right?
Like just because of what happened because of what we've seen. Now I know like
it's kind of what you mentioned gas to like the invisible woman definitely has a part as to
As a reason why that maybe the it slows down the pace of the doctor strange
But that could be something that both teams are probably thinking about moving forward
Well sensors have a 1-0 lead and 100 thieves
I'm sure are shaking in their boots at the moment because they're one map away from being eliminated from this competition
Let's jump into map 2 then and see if sensors can close the deal here dog ship. Take it away
Yeah. Well, 100. These might be shaking, but Cafe Rose is pretty empty right now because
their chances are a little bit better. But we have seen the reverse sweep before folks
it with me and dog on the cast for some reason it is absolutely on the table. And this is
going to be a map selection by energy shock Shin Shibuya convergence. We will see what
they do same exact man phase as before so far. Yeah, Bay is coming through and it's
as you said, the Mantis and stuff probably just going to see the same protects over to
the Elsa and Mantis on the opposition unless energy changes it up. But man, yes, and that
was good. After the last map, I mean, in two L fashion on a domination is a massive win.
Definitely not like the hundred thieves Twitter account said, you know, they're looking
like Zen City for real as time, you know, they're on the on top of the world, maybe
a golden goose right now for the side of Sentinels and picking up Dongmin, right?
Like this guy ever since joining the roster, I think people may be questioned
how good he was and stuff and how he fit into the roster after their changes
in the offseason instead of tacky, for example.
But I mean, he looks really good this week and a lot of teams definitely
are finding their sort of ebb and flow this week.
Dude, it brings me back to Shroud X.
You remember that team?
Dominic was on Shroud X and used to run strange and hit huge Alts even when Magneto was very, you know
Mainstay meta still finding huge Alts and I remember in the interview
I was like, how do you do it?
And he just has this clutch gene on strange that seems to you know
Consistently exist even at this stage and I do think now unless she yields in the meta for the current state
It's it's a little easier to land those Alts and he's looking good doing it
And now has even more tools with Invis on the table
We're gonna see what happens here folks as we start up the next match
will send those people to close this out two hour will energy bounce back.
They absolutely can and that's the beauty of ignite right now.
Well, yes, it's a fun one.
The main thing I remember out of Dongman from those days is the giant Mexican flag
in the background.
I just I don't know why like issues.
He's like got a blank background.
He's got his bed in the background and then he's just got a giant flag of
Mexico and I'm like, okay, fair play.
That's sick.
That's sick.
But you know what?
Dongmin is that guy these days and it's interesting too that the guy he replaced in in techie is still rosterless
Isn't he like he's still not
In ignite still has the opportunity to get picked up for a roster and a lot of people
At least after the after the pre-season's done shit are looking at that guy for example, even though he's still not on my feet
I mean, there's still potential for roster changes as ignite progresses and that's I mean
There's so much talent in the game right now and I mean there's three million dollars on the line for tonight
Everyone wants to buy the scene is growing and so hot man. You know what I mean?
Okay, I don't by the way. Yes, you're right hundred percent. Sorry not to not say I do what you said obviously, but
That mirror just does this thing that everybody does now by the way
He's kind of like the the original person that is 360s because he's got like high sense
And he just loves the 360 like 24-7 is the most ADHD shenanigans
I have ever seen and he is the reason why all of these kids now and rank do it just want to say
So funny. It also gives you a feel for like the exact space you need on your keyboard or your mouse or I guess your mouse pad excuse me where you're going to get a feel for the exact area.
No these guys can't like I tell you they can't go for a second without doing something. This is the most high APM game ever.
Touche Touche. I do that sometimes when I'm checking out Senso's spin to see what I can do in terms of what Senso feels good for me.
But Nier is able to find one off the rip here and that puts Sentinels off on the defense so far right off the beginning like that on the Fox.
on the Fox. What does Cozy say? It's the iPad baby game. This is sometimes it gets like that and
that's why it's such a fun game that we can point it out. The good picks came through early on like
you mentioned. Ultimate's being built now and this offense needs to kind of set something up. I'm
interested to see why they didn't go through the portal play. Maybe they got stunned out the
beginning but they're trying to heavy player on sneakers who's now the one playing the Phoenix
alongside time front to back style. Yeah and there's some pressure here. Snickers keeping that
that damage up. Right amazing with a nice shot there on the window is crucial in that
moment as the pressure was looking to go on the side of NRG. Sandals now back on
top in terms of numbers. Window down puts a 5v6 situation. Alt advantage going to
be up here for Renko on the side of shock. They want to play aggro but
everybody gonna have cues in the moment besides Flamé or Flamé who is at 54%
very difficult to charge as fast with Luna right now. Yeah not running the
white box I think is kind of biting into the butt until okay nevermind
Crimson goes down I was gonna say the reason why if Flamé goes down
the height too. It's interesting because this is not what we saw like Team Liquid
Citadel Z before. They should be playing on like the inside angle but they're
just kind of like going down when they shouldn't be. Here comes the door from the
backside angle, but we'll find it in here. We'll find Mir there in the Fox form.
Should be a tankage. Chime gets two now. Gong made able to find Chime. Playing that
Magneto at the moment. Rhyme isn't going to commit Rage of Ultron but at
this point energy up in numbers. Velocity copies up and we're going to see
something on the point as it disappears. There's an invisible boundary now. It's
is in place and those have no answers left.
Window goes under for the feast able to find one
and Flamay should fall here does that.
And then right on top in that moment,
Dongmin falls, window with the three-piece down.
Everything just kind of falling into place there
like Domino's this time takes out Crimson.
That should be point one NRG shot.
Yeah, Windows a bit of a frequent
and nice plays from him so far.
And yeah, difference why that kind of fell apart
was everybody had a split nice shots again
from Dongmin who was not letting this team lose right
because to every single fight or winter loss he's finding a KO and for energy
shot I mean they got to feel good about running this front to get what back
style so far as it's working right finding maybe right amazing cool downs
down you know maybe just going hard aggressive with the Phoenix and the Elsa
and at the moment window has been doing everything in terms of separating his
back line freeze comes in there on a window huge focus there and notice
nobody waking up the freeze good concert the back line but now the
pressure is right back triple back line going to drop back as a unit you
You should try to find a pig as the dance floor gets committed from Flamay.
It was walking the man, a huge eye opportunity, once again it is going to be found banged down.
Comes the end song, the Dara, or yeah, moderate is able to find one there.
And the second pick from Snakers on the Crimzo, and that was a huge turn around there, well played.
I mean I like this, they're just kind of walking at them at the current moment.
This is something I would have expected out of a team like TSM even, right?
Just a hard W key at people with this composition that allowed maybe Windu to pop off
on this flight because there's so much pressure right now on Usher to take care of Windo as
he's just been creating so much space. Now we have three minutes left to go on this last
point. Double stratus ultimates, they just committed both the Luna and didn't have the
White Fox ultimate. So unless there's like a crazy Vanguard ultimate from Dongmin or
some sustained by Rai, this could be Energy Shock's map.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just getting flashbacks to the 100 Beves playing here, having a ton
of time on, but the hold came through from, you know, I mean, and you think there's
I mean this is very much this exact same situation Chime able to find one as you sure that trade crimson finding ranko and
There's even more commitment as a moderate goes down you sure with another pick here join the power of this hero
Yeah, excellent plays by you sure a chime. Maybe it looked like he thought he had some more
Strategies to help right because the playing the traditional two-to-two style
They're not going to be as forward with him sometimes with like the ultra on triple composition
So obviously you should read it fantastic work because I mean if he didn't
We could have seen potentially some more pop-up played by Chime dealing with the back line the lunis though now let's have him fight
Sentinels
Defensive hold have a better version of the large up here probably as trims of those enforceables
Wow, crimson with a two-piece Chime able to take out where I'm missing to try to trade it back a little bit mirror
Committing heavy there for set knows low as the Fox but comes right back in a normal format with the fact firms
Oh looking for another pick here
Modder in a tough spot and again it looks like sentinels have come out on top and
Slight alt advantage as for me. You sure will have something in the next fight
It looks like it'll be roughly even as thinkers in moddera will have an answer
It's all about the first pick here and who gets value with the Q early enough
You sure lands it but it hit the hole instantly and that's unfortunate there and now the advantage goes in favor of shock
But at least they get Crimzo. Here comes Dinger's ultimate, the I-Blocking Mode.
It's done! CC! That combo they needed. And now with that CC, by I believe, was that Mere on the opposite side with the Charm?
Yeah, must have been. That was huge by Mere, because there's not any other major stun answer besides Freeze from Flamay.
Which might have come through as Chime finds Rai Mazing, window onto Flamay, and again, now Shock is taking pressure and walking forward,
trying to make this a 1-1 series and pushes to 0.3, 46 seconds on the clock.
Entering final fight territory shortly, portal plays will be on the table.
We'll see what happens here in a moment, but it looks like Sentinels,
no they are not going to give it to them,
the moment there I thought they were going to give it,
but there goes Crystal trying to buy time and stand top of them for the moment
as Crimson was looking for a feast, lands it onto one on the side of Chime,
a meter left, the kick comes through onto Crimson,
out with the rage of Ultron, and Ultron falls,
Ultron falls as Rymeazing gets picked by Ranco, and Shocker heavy up. Yeah, that should be the point it is.
Yeah, Nomura struttles in that fight besides, yeah, you called it the Rymeazing Ultron's rage.
There's too much aggression from Energy Shock, early pick-offs done by them and
Excellency, regardless, but it didn't end up mattering sadly for the defensive angle. Now,
opposite side, we have that combo yet again. Stinkers, by the way, in that fight is built up by another
and song inferno so these Phoenix players really build it up super super fast and for the side of Sentinels they put
Crimson over to the Captain America, but oh
Mirgoth pick
And in the green room before we were saying you know
Dominance of mean strange and I was saying you know maybe getting rid of the in this is enough to reduce the threat because you won't have that
Team up and it seems like removing in this was enough because they are not running that strange and NRG is doing the exact same thing
They just got dealt with last map with that in this time able to find one in the chaos onto Crimson
should give them enough here up in all advantage heavily in this fight to commit.
This is very much in NRG's favor. Consentral's clutch up here.
Yeah, looks like they can at the current moment for energy shock at least.
And Sentral's, they need to stop getting picked off, right?
Just one after another. We got picked on up at the angles.
They're having a really tough time dealing with Windo, who's just able to do whatever he wants.
Right? Donglin falls on the high ground. They have these cooldowns to save him.
But finally they use a large rocks is it met by the Phoenix to help peel forth the answers. Yes
I'm looking for something here with that meteor and it's not able to land
It's gonna be a few elements committed there shine finding usher and that is another huge pick in a moment moderate
I think time to hear and they follow up with it. Goodbye to the box
I'll go to damn for to try to buy more time by amazing getting pressured the large rocks is available to pull them away
Peeling the back line for now on the Crimson was Crimson takes a rainbow and velocity
He's got the drone he's got the snowflake he's not they kill three people by himself with that that is hilarious over time
Thanks now ship. That was like the most unboosable fight and we just lost it because of Crimson on cap
Yeah, Crimson was discussing that was that was on the back of Crimson
But out of doubt going into two strats like that able to find a two-piece well the honestly down alt advantage
They just kind of bubbled it there.
I'm not going to lie to NRG,
but also shout out to Crimson on that cap and that's what advantage map 1.
If we have clips enabled,
please send that to your resident cat main that's depressed
about the changes in this upcoming patch.
So like, oh, caps, terrible.
No, man. What the hell?
Somebody clip that and send it to any cat main that's like, oh,
cap is bad now. Are you kidding?
Hello? This guy's got double pocket, Ultron, Luda snowflake,
and then just destroys your back line.
It's so bad for Renko and Vlas.
Well, they probably should have died there, too, to be fair.
like they're not in triple, I guess, so maybe it's a little bit easier to fall over compared
to if they're on the Ultron stuff. So maybe Crimson aware of that understands the uptime
of the Captain America compared to the Venom with the cool down ship. What do you think
on that matchup specifically? Is it a smarter play to go to the Captain America if you're
given more space since the you're kind of more cool down reliant on the Venom?
Yeah, I think Venom. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right. Venom does a good job of
creating space while Cap does a good job of taking advantage of the space because
cap is just so pressuring. I mean yes you can have unclean
beast of the abyss combo or use tendrils and one shot the
back line and that is absolutely powerful but at all
times cap has the power to just devastate you in a very quick
ttk especially with the change in his damage and how it
works in every single swing and at this level they're saying
on top he's 24-7. Crimson really strong on that hero
even through the low key I mean obviously crystals weren't
available that was just so quick. I can't believe you'd
bring up to decay in a scenario like this shit are you kidding me no the time
no you definitely made a hundred years to decay I mean there's a lot of a line
for him right now surely swatching this game I mentioned it sweaty palms mom's
spaghetti no that's that's something different starting off on the on the
end but first yeah try to it's just a counter this right here
It's not a bad idea, I think you just got to try to stop the strange you guys dealt with that issue last time
And that's why it just became a target band and now you're feeling it
But we'll see now on the defense you can see Sandals pressuring that attack exact same composition
They ran there at the end it felt some success
Why not keep it going chime in the back line right now try to buy Crimson and that is an insane shot
So most gets it done has to reload incredibly unlucky timing there
You sure have to drop away to good turn there
But look at these duelists in insane positions now just happening from all over the place
Yeah, absolutely the Crimson peaks away for a second gets healed, but okay. Dongmin goes down. Why trade back time?
That else is going back to spawn
Without any instinct and help us decide velocity's already having a copy
And we could see exactly the copies available that should buy more time now
They do have a pretty good stall comp moderate already. Oh, excuse me. This is actually gonna be Dongmin
coming in on the strange with an early portal again.
It's a three minute cooldown.
You're not going to have that towards the end
should you need it.
They believe they're going to take this point.
They're playing very aggro.
They're going to commit a lot here.
They need to get this.
And they will as Usher, Rai-Mazing, and Flamme
all get a piece of the pie there.
And that is a clean sweep right now.
Energy's going to need to hold to try to portal back in.
And we can see Crimson now jumping off point.
The whole team here, Usher, able to find Velocity.
We see another pick.
And that commitment for Rai-Mazing might have been
a little bit too much if this touch does come through.
It looks like it is.
Okay, well, they tried to touch, but let's see if he gets spot
by the ball.
Okay, Don't make it stinkers as well coming out of that
full block.
Dick Lortrux, is it enough?
I mean, it brings it away.
Don't we kind of dipping back and forth with all kid eye
on the ball?
That ends him.
That was huge, really well played by Sentinels there
on that attack.
They committed portal and they knew they needed to win
that fight.
You cannot lose it there or your team is in trouble.
And that is some really good dedication.
and getting it done. We can look now. Shock can have even alts here
compared to Sentinels, but I would argue Crimson is a little more valuable right now.
We'll charge up that back line, that triple back line, giving them a slight
advantage potentially here in percentage. Wendell going to be close to 70% as well.
I'm a little bit more worried I think on the defensive side for Energy Shock not
running the triple with the Ultron. That Ultron ban I would say is kind
of biting him in the butt because realistically if it's slow played by
Sentinels, if they play the angles correctly, keep Crimson alive,
They should have a pretty big edge in the long term as long as they enable Dongmin like they've been doing and Usher
You sure would have picked there on a windows a great start for the side of send those who want to keep the momentum going good movement
There's a schmoove. It was insane getting down to less than a hundred HP able to move around to juke a lot of that come right back
Backline keeps him healed up if extra editor available as well. We're gonna see how big my soul, sir
I think this worked on a cat, you know wait easier because they're only aggression
You know, you don't have to hold space necessarily.
But now the defensive hold, I mean,
there's so much healing coming through.
You already lose time without the triple coffee.
Can't keep him alive.
Chris is just so good on this hero.
There's just so much value right now.
I can't stress it enough.
You pick, space, own it, everything right now.
They can't seem to drop them with the drone.
And then you get the damage move from the drone
with Ultron and the recent changes.
And that just enables cap even more
to be more pressuring with those melee.
So we're going to see now if anything can come out
of this, but energy is bouncing back now.
Seeming to own the space still, it's moderate now on top of the point by the time.
Oh, that's a huge pull there from Ringo to find Dongmin in the mix.
A lot of people are critical as the Fox gets unleashed now.
And Crimso, what do you know on that back line?
The back line already has the patty cake in focus.
Crimso already out.
And once again, the team's going to reset, but the space is taken and it's moved 20 meters.
I mean, these ults are just coming out a little bit too late.
Like, I feel like the comp's a little bit better.
But in your running triple shredders anyway, so it's okay if you have these
a little bit early there.
Miragas missed timing to save Dongbin.
Obviously took a little bit too much damage,
but the only thing he could do,
you should expect that much damage.
And speaking about damage,
speakers again, another pickoff.
Sentinels, you know, maybe even get a little worried
at this point if we're getting picked off,
this many fights in a row that's had another KO
for speakers.
Begin again, NRG does have advantage
of positioning and an alt.
And this is the position you kind of want
to take these fights for a while.
You need to buy time right now.
Two minutes available, your percentiles is a lot
On this attack, you try to think like 30 seconds of fight roughly
and then you have a quarter play to potentially make it that fourth fight should you need to.
We'll see what it looks like here.
Amazing, trying to get that all charged, 86% in climbing.
We're going to get rid of some of those clones.
Let's see what happens to Sentinels.
They are able to go with the eye.
Dongling takes a ton of damage early at the off angles.
By shock, need to keep up.
They also do not get picked.
Window close to that ultimate as well.
And every single time in these neutrals,
they've been able to find these picks and get good.
The large trunks off.
Maybe Nensong Inferno a long time ago,
with Dara's Avalgo Moda coming up.
Synergy.
Nensong bang, lands towards the back line.
Seeker's able to take out Yushar.
That's a huge priority target there.
Chime drops Mir, that's two down once more.
NRG Shock looking to push this thing to game three,
holding on like champions as Mota refines another.
And there is 54 seconds on.
Ulti Vantage still for NRG Shock,
doing a great job on this defense.
Alright, thank you for everything I said earlier back.
I mean, the control is off angle so well
at the current moment, shutting down Crimson was a big thing.
They can keep it up, obviously,
and if window can keep doing the way
he's been doing on Venom
and distracting everybody
to be forcing an early ult out,
that would be big, because Henshills have been super late.
We already have 30 seconds left to go.
They haven't used many ults at all.
Yeah, there's huge I have agamotor potential here too.
For moderate, but Dongmin is on that magneto,
which shuts down a lot of that potential
and that's what we were talking about prior.
It's a little less valuable bang window comes in heavy
Well, there's your pick instead just gonna force cool downs and reset immediately not a bad idea as we see more hills coming through
There's the eye. Oh, he's got frozen. He got frozen
What a freeze and window was trying to paint that earlier, but couldn't in now but there was dead
That was
Disgusting and they're playing off the back of that now another pick comes through make it a third dogman finding stinkers now a
Huge freeze there to give them plenty of free space finding more value
Amazing able to take out Renko the reset needs to happen here for shock
Dominos have meteor m available. It's all about the meteor m versus China with a large truck velocity has copy up to
We'll see if they can retake this the portal comes through to I believe that's moderate back on point as the
Oh my goodness. Wow. That was a nice thing moving. Oh
Oh my
Oh, it's a disgusting right click
Goodbye, Chime, with ult available! That could potentially give them this point!
It could, I mean, Ushua goes down as well. Domlin falls super low, but I've lying it up.
Luzi Flick earlier was so bad, Iwakumov, Mere goes down, Energy Shock have capped the point,
and overtime the Wimbleship, they ain't getting it done on this map, it's tied up 1-1.
1-1! Of course it goes to game 3 while we're here, buddy!
over here, buddy, man, these teams are leaving nothing on the table.
They're putting everything on the line.
This is so fun to watch, man.
And absolutely is.
And, you know, at the current moment, I was a little worried, I think,
for the side of NRG due to the pick offs and stuff happening.
But once they found the off angles, once thinkers kind of got online,
once velocity was able to help out on these off angles as well.
They just got so much work done in this team.
I like it when they play the GGG style, you know, Ultron got banned
against them, sure, but maybe we have to go back to the drawing boards as well
you know, both of these doctor's ranges have been able to do a ton, obviously, for
dog women offense, though, really not as much, by the way, so realistically, energy
shock, I think the overwhelming damage of the duality seems to be is too much
for Sentinels to deal with on certain maps. Yeah, stickers and chimes, well,
our chimes were actually popping there, without a doubt, 15 and 12, 37 and 32k. I
mean, great, you look at Usher with 41, obviously doing as best as he could,
but that defense was just a little bit too much from NRG.
But folks, we are heading to game three,
and we'll check that out together right after this break.
I'm going to show you how to
against Sentinels and it will take us to our third map three of the day, which I think is
again indicative of you guys and just what you bring to the table seems to always give
us these map three.
I mean, shit, but you said the band phase was going to be important. We talked a lot
about Doctor Strange as well and how Invisible Woman kind of enhances Doctor Strange as
well. Do you think a lot of it was one down to the fact that Invisible Woman did
get through?
Yeah, I mean, Invisible Woman got through, which was huge for the side of NRG Shock.
I mean, but it didn't necessarily enable moderate as much as I would have thought.
I mean, moderate was getting his alts canceled a lot.
I think we saw three or two or three cancels there,
which is just a shout out to Sentinel's back line.
Great focus and great way, you know, understanding alt tracking, right?
I think that's super important as you climb at this elo.
You understand what it's going to come.
You save your cool amounts and you make a play and they keep making that play.
So they found an answer.
But I do think the inverse then banning,
shock banning the envis on the side of Sentinels really forced a weird
position for Dominion had to
play. Magneto and it just wasn't
the strongest. I do think both
these teams are kind of learning
a lot about each other here,
dog about the picks about the
fans, but also about play styles
now going into this final map
is a lot of it going to come
down to mind games here. But as
you you're going through that
band phase, maybe leaving
something up but then trying
to take something else away
unexpectedly. Maybe man. Yeah,
I think there's definitely
the possibility that we kind
of enter that first sort of
if they want to get spicy, maybe they go for a ban away from that,
considering we saw like Gambit not even like touched early on sometimes
that both these teams, but Midtown's doing the map they go to.
This is Sentinels kind of like a bread and butter map, I guess,
even though I don't believe they had a very good, you pointed out,
guess they didn't have a very good matchup last time they put this map
against Swamp Gaming, but that is also a map for Swamp Gaming is,
well, Swamp Gaming is good everywhere, I guess.
It's not like a map Swamp Gaming is bad necessarily,
But this is still, I think, one of energy's better maps.
And I think it does kind of go back to what you said,
Gask, about, you know, how are these last sort of bands
going to come through?
Is it going to be the Invisible Woman again?
Is it going to be maybe respect towards,
I think, a ship brought up in the green room, maybe
that Captain America, right?
Like that could be something they
want to focus on on the side of a better energy.
And obviously, with it being midtown and switching over
to convoy rather than convergence,
I mean, does it change anything for you,
Shib, in terms of style of play,
or do you think it's going to be somewhat similar?
I mean, both these teams are so well-versed now, right?
Yeah, I mean, this is the time
we're going to see those triple-triple.
You're going to see triple-vanguard, triple-strat comps,
and then spawn breakers where it's going to see which comps
these guys can pull out to attack.
That's going to just essentially burn vanguards.
We've seen a lot of different permutations
of what that can be over this early preseason alone.
So I'm looking forward to seeing what I see here.
Granted, what I've been seeing more of this season
is triple-vanguard single-dualists
because why not if else is on there?
just too good and then double
backline and then you just farm
here all super quick because you
have so many vanguards to heal.
Yeah, I think we've seen a lot of
it. I think you're completely
right here. The nail on the head
with Elsa just being as powerful
as she is. It's a very
interesting scenario we find
ourselves in at the moment
with the picking ban phase
because you do have three
heroes are just so powerful.
It makes such a difference and
maybe we're even finding more
heroes that need to be taken
away. But sadly, you can't
take that many heroes away in
that phase dogman. Would you
rather be a 100 thieves fan
I mean, I'm not sure if it's
a good one or a cafe rose fan
right now with what we've seen
after the first two. Oh, I
would never want to be 100
these fan because they give
you a heart attack at all
times. I feel like if I was
100 these fan, I just be
constantly checking my blood
pressure. So definitely rather
be a cafe rose fan because I
mean, well, like I said, house
money earlier on. Well, both
fans of both squads are going
to be watching with baited
breath as we go into map three
then it all comes down to
on the line for Cafe Rose or 100 Thieves.
Who's going home?
Let's find out.
Dog ship.
Let's get into it.
Here we go, man.
I don't even know why.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous because this is just so insane.
This back and forth has been wild.
We've gotten so many series to three today.
And we're going to see, you know,
something that doesn't make me nervous
and something that I should expect.
Goodbye to Gambit.
You're ripping Pep.
I mean, I think it's kind of interesting
because I remember we were talking to like Wab
before from recent gaming, obviously,
left that team later on.
but he was mentioning how, you know, maybe even Gambit's not as good anymore because of the old changes and stuff, but obviously still is a lot of teams number one band pick.
And sometimes you could see teams play against it pretty well. So it is interesting if that continues to be the case, the guy that kind of remains at the top of the band phase and then Van Pool as well.
Another character touched by energy shock and removed same thing.
and then the second half of
the season. And that's the
same thing. Presentable is
not your teams want to play
against what we saw last
series with the Paul Lee.
Deadpool on Vanguard. Yeah, I
think that's I think that's not
a bad removal, because again,
we're talking about those
triple comps in the front line,
so getting rid of it as a
priority so the team doesn't
have an advantage. It's kind
of a smart play, and then
it gives you the chance to
lock in that else after
because you know, it's just
a similar story. Both sides
don't want to have to deal
with it. I think it's good.
We're gonna see the mantis
removal here from Sentos. I'm
liking the bands on both
sides, but we go back to
value you get within this and that's where shock has the advantage right now.
I'm not sure it's going to turn out to be the case, but that's why it's so
beautiful to see kind of how all this works in preseason.
We're still trying to figure out the meta.
Yeah, 100% you're right.
You know, there's still a lot to learn.
The Maitis does end up getting through for Sentinel side.
Um, and it is interesting too that that mirror is still getting through the whole time.
He's just been playing the game instead of Carova, the low key band
comes through the opposite angle, very fast one, by the way, in terms of
that band phase on energy.
But I mean, it makes sense to the Wolverine, I would say, just
because of the fact that they've protected and banned Invisible Woman.
You don't want to play Wolverine without the Invis, or against the Wolverine, where you
don't want to play a comp without Invisible Woman when they have Wolverine on their side.
So it makes sense that you'd want to get rid of it rather in this fight.
But regardless, both else is still going to be on the pool or on the board.
And Shib, I don't know, man, like that Loki band at the very end is going to
be quite interesting because the last map, I mean, Velocity's got MVP and was kind
of an unsung hero, I guess, for Energy Shock's side, right?
Yeah, I think Velocity took the accidental ult and spawn a map one personally and just wanted to pop off there
Looked really good obviously there and map two and kind of came out on top 51k healing
I want to stress and something that we didn't really get a chance to talk about after that's closest being 38
That is absolutely obscene. That is 13k more healing and that's a lot at this level of play
So really well done there with the Loki
Yeah, that's that's a good point
I mean like it's a very difference in like a different in style of a play almost to from the squad of energy shock
like they seem to be doing a lot better in these double, double, double or two to two compositions and
The rolling out immediately with what you talked about earlier, shape and this triple
Vanguard comp on defense first with with a triple shredded a smack line
And here we go folks
I'm sure if you're a fan of cafe Rose or 100 feet your eyes are on here right now
There's no chances in this tournament are on the line
Not a word thinking you know in that space Crimson playing that group who plays great on this map
I like that decision here for the break early right amazing on the Iron Man and that is something that I'm sure Iron Man made
They're all gonna be stoked about but sneakers shuts that down quickly. I hope you didn't
Hope you weren't too excited as that closes the door fast
Yeah, bro. Just got one ball comboed just punched up by that
Magneto and stinkers dominating the high ground so far at the moment hasn't missed a shot Iron Man comes back
But those charge ups, those left click, right click combinations can result in early KO, but now Sentinels like are close already to users ultimate.
We'll see if they play slow trying to build it. Nice freeze on the window.
Yeah, great tendrils there to find that pick on Rai-Mazing. Didn't expect that damage as moderate. I also find Thungman playing the strange as well.
But without that indus, it's just a little more difficult. And that is what we were talking about.
We're going to see if Sentinels change anything up and it looks like, yeah, we are going to see a change now.
Shades out right amazing is going over to the Punisher. I'm not sure we've seen as much success in Punisher
But it is one of those answers to breaking through this triple frontline
Yeah, this is this is very unique
I think for the sea of Bri on the Punisher, but you know the right side angle you have some support towards that frontline window
By the way still gets that venom throughout the students here comes that ice earlier from
Madara freeze comes out a window, but that leaves Madara open unless he goes down
And the Glark Tracks gets committed, Domyn finds two, Crimzo with another, and now Sentinels will get to walk a bit here.
Ranko gonna be res back from Chine, and they're just gonna stall for a potential portal.
I could see that coming here from Madera in a moment, and that's the idea of what's gonna happen here from NRG.
They're gonna commit everything they can to buy more time, portal will come in, and they'll try to make this as many fights as possible.
See if that actually does happen, Madera might not make it in time, and there's that portal now.
It looks like it does come through in time, and now it's kind of in just chaos.
He's still buying some time in the clock like Madara just kind of jumping back and forth through the portal
That you have the rocket old that they want to also this meteor and sinkers again another pick on a prism so that was kind of
Thankers, yeah, I mean there's no Magneto and strange gets pushed away in that moment good
Bye, and that is going to be pain right there, but it's not a ride amazing who's now making the switch as well
Yeah, he's gonna go to the also and you should be the one over to the Wolverine that's that's very interesting
Man, right. Why this game is kind of had a tough series, man. I mean just everybody's all over them 24 7
including that
Does bring out the passive there on the Wolverine not as big as it could have been the ideal was there of course
It's out to put out the tackle comes in and moderate is gonna pay the place here
I believe yes those down by amazing getting some vengeance here
I could change in duelists from the side of Sentinels.
Rhyme is a good chance to show up here on the L-Sunk and virtually play every hero in the game.
See how successful it is with this switch up, but as a minute on, this is what Shock wanted.
They wanted to buy as much time as possible here on this beginning, and they're not even at the ambulance yet.
As we see Rhyme is in the back of the whole time, that's, that's kind of wild,
but really the problem for Sentinels is they, they haven't been able to slosh stickers from the high ground.
Aggressive invisible boundary committable.
The shot is going to stick on it.
Here comes that ante.
From the feast of the abyss, it's a slow down the offense.
Yeah, forces out some cooldowns, and that was the goal there.
Crimson does that triangle of prison.
This could be a huge opportunity to make something big happen there.
Stankers is on that Magneto, though.
Builds alt.
If he's able to build alt, and you see an opportunity where Crimson is trying to make that play,
you can eat it, and that would be huge, but no, Crimson won't just throw it.
He'll get a look at that moment when it looks like a window.
What?
Is able to find mirror in the chaos, and I don't think that it was a big triangle of prison.
It wasn't in velocity now finds a pick and saddles are in danger here folks. Oh
My god, this could be over. I mean they've brought in the white box Luna snow backline without the triple like earlier
And it seems like they fall apart last day committed. It's anybody down. No large rocks is here
Nobody goes down because the Loki greens as well are still available for lost and he's who pops them now
Yeah, this is a really tough spot to be in but now I think energy is just kind of playing under here
nervous this could be a huge media ram looking for an opportunity bangs fans but
what good movement there to avoid that that's one off that oh absolutely false
what the hell is committed though there is the sea trying to get a pick on the
backline I don't make that happen yet if the copy up from velocity where it's the
BRB down that pick is going to be answered here if it was fast enough
not sure it was it was fingers back in the fight now and the sea gets committed
and look at this shine DPS rocket you've got to love the CD agro play
Holding left click more than I've ever seen a rock and hold left click at this point
It is some damage out there, but this is still an insane stalled by both sides right amazing fighting one
My foot settles down for him. Oh, yeah, they do as windows back
This is insane
That's because velocity copy the BRB called it out earlier
So they get two BRB's in this fight give me the low key now stickers pulled away
I mean they gotta get another tail. It's like seven or eight
Sorry chaos in a row. They would need to get a lot of available users. Oh my goodness
He needed to get back massive. Yeah, they needed that you would not a doubt and that's going to be even more now
I'm not going to lie you should just clock without a doubt. This should give them enough time here to get this moving
Yes, the rest will fall
Sentinels the side of you sure likely giving them a chance to push point one
But energy will have a touch here, I believe but I'm just not sure it can go in their favor now with also
Van is the dance floor being on the side of sandals shout out you sure right there
Yeah portal here. I mean the Dara going over to the cloaking deck. I'm gonna make this really annoying
Like, they're going up with a little copy under the looking dagger.
Oh, you're right.
That was huge because they get the longest thought in the game strat-wise,
longer than the Luto, all right?
Yeah, and they're going to use that purple with their advantage.
Chime, able to follow up on the dogman, and this could go back.
And then our Gs favor now.
And what a view we have here.
The dunk comes in from window.
The eye gets committed, and it doesn't seem to land on too much.
Just by Flamay, window.
Gonna find mirror numbers now, back for energy.
Shot, can they clinch this?
Stankers gets Flamay.
And oh my goodness, you sure?
I can't have clutched again! What is happening right now?
He's 5 HP, Rengle got a KO and a Ryne. It's just him in the Venom. 10 HP.
He doesn't have healing because the car window is clutching up too!
Oh my goodness, and I think that should do it here.
Oh, as in- Oh, why did such comes once more? At this point I don't even know.
You should try it, but it was not enough. What a hold by NRG Shock.
Oh my god, that might be the the sickest combination of things that we've seen ever ship
You called up the the cloak and dagger to swap to
In the Loki copy just because they know they're against the dance floor and then the people like oh cloak and dagger
It doesn't last as long as Lunal
But it does because it it only starts counting down after the last
Shit or the last dash right for the cloak and dagger
So the fact that they swap over to that so velocity can get that copy is just it's so smart ship, right?
like that is. Oh yeah dude. That was the next level. Yeah that was big brain. I mean that is
so smart. I mean I'll argue that I think Cloak and Dagger right now in the meta aren't taking the most
efficient route. They're kind of just not as good in the neutral as the rest of the strategies
that can deal a lot of damage and get chaos on their own and that's what you're looking for. But
in OT situations Cloak and Dagger are obscenely strong. They have huge advantage. The double
Cloak of the Terror Cape obviously is huge for the team and it really just enabled them to
a sweep, what a retake. Man, you sure what a dunk, dude. You almost had that. That was
awesome to watch. As you see, obviously holding on to that ace. Oh no. Yeah, that's, that's
pretty crazy. That was, uh, he was really trying to put the team on his back, but I
mean, really, like you said, you should plan well. But obviously just the master
class and low key performance so far from, uh, from velocities, I think every highlight
so far from that defensive hold was him putting the VRB down the copy. And then last
moment the cloaking dagger squaps for moderate and I want to tack I mean
central's that's brutal right they felt like they had it right and the
World Play come back into the Loki copy sets you so far so far back ship and
they have to hold now first point for four minutes.
Here we go again folks. The spawn break for the side of energy shock is going
to be on the back of having that storm to enable stinkers even more
rancor finds Dongmin and that's a big start here but the res come
from Rai Mazing is going to be on that rocket. You see a lot of duelists switch over to Rocket and
these triple holds especially on this map. At BRB is obviously super valuable but Rocket can deal
some good damage to in these tight locations. You see Windo with some huge play of brute as
moderate is able to find that pick out of Dong Min once again and now they will be up a number
with no BRB. This is also a really interesting matchup too with the fact that oh my goodness
Windo crossed map with the damage. Windo and Dong Min used to be teammates right with energy
shocked now picking up him and then Madara and Rai-Maze-Zing and Kurova were
teammates before too same thing with velocities on dark zero so a lot of
differences and by the way off-mapship is possible yeah the thought was there
just shut down that portal oh my goodness coming back from spawn in that
moment probably dashed through portal not realizing the perfect timing of
moderate that was unbelievable what am I seeing is moderate tries to clean up
even more sees the VRP in the back line and finds the slipper and that should do it here.
NRG are going to take this home.
Oh my goodness.
What an end for the side of NRG.
They get it done, Shib, and well, I'm sure when Gas comes back, he can set everything
up because, I mean, that's an incredible series by them and Energy Shock is putting
on the absolute performance of a lifetime from WINDOW, going to be your MVP.
Energy Shock hit it down.
I mean, it wasn't just a hundred
thieves and cafe rose fans
waiting with baited breath, but
me too. But obviously with that
win and energy shock taking down
Sentinels, sadly, it means that
cafe rose will be eliminated from
the competition and 100 thieves
will live to fight another day.
That is how the cookie crumbles.
Sadly for cafe Rose, even though
they got that victory today
the ball rolling here,
for cafe Rose, even though they
got that victory today because
of the tiebreakers and how it
works. They will not be
progressing towards playoffs,
but for energy shock, the
bigger picture here is they
just showed us how dominant
they can be when they get the
ball rolling here, ship. I
can't express how hype all
that was. This is just
insanity. I don't know how we
could get matches like this,
simple. They had the storm comp that was just too much damage to handle finding pick after pick
and even though chime didn't need to do too much on the storm, it was all about just enabling
stinkers, enabling Madera who does have that increase with the envis, so much pressure,
window looking great on the group. It was just a better spawn break comp and it worked out for
them. I mean it was just a pleasure to watch and I mean even with the insane plays we saw
on the Wolverine Muthra as well, we thought maybe there would be a chance that they
they were gonna be able to push that point initially,
and maybe that would have given them the opportunity dog,
but sadly just wasn't quite enough for Sen.
Of course, Sen still will be progressing
and through tiebreakers of their own,
so it's not all doom and gloom,
but I do think that after recent results,
they probably are gonna be going back
to the drawing board a little here.
Well, you know me, Gask, you know what that means,
because of the results.
We get more 100 thieves Sen drama, baby.
We're gonna get more of that in the playoffs,
and that's all I wanted at the end of the day.
We love a little bit of drama, especially here in the Americas in Marvel. I was ignite that is
I mean ship though when you look at sending the chance they had I mean it's a Taylor's all the time at the moment domination seems to be a very different game
To convoy or convergence and it seems like teams are really struggling to find a balance across all three modes
Do we think that's the reason why
Swamp gaming and team liquid citadel are the best of the best right now because they seem to have found a way to make every single mode work
Yeah, I mean they just have a ton of compositions. I think the more that your team is willing to run the more success
You're gonna find across the board because I think it requires a lot of different things from you and across those three different modes
I think again, I think that Sen maybe was a little more limited in composition compared to NRG
They looked so good on Dom and struggled a little bit in the next two
It's just because they kind of ran a little more tried and true after they got off
What was more comfortable, but again Sen is a really solid team
But I do think it's off the basis of what you're essentially going for you a little more diversity in their in their comps
the other side dog for for NRG, I mean, they're going to be delighted with that
comeback. Of course, it does change their bracket pretty significantly going into
playoffs as well. They should, in theory, have a easier matchup being able to be a
little bit of a higher seed. I think going into playoffs now they're going to
be full of confidence, surely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean that that would be
a interesting matchup, too, considering if energy, you know, were to go against
the team like, well, yeah, we lost to world be that third seed, I believe
That's going to be a crazy matchup too, because I don't know, would you say that is an easier
matchup?
I mean, theoretically maybe because the time has gone on, maybe they've gotten worse, but
like you said, energy has to feel very confident about that being the number two team in North
America in Group A.
Speaking of the number two team in Group A, we have an interview of course with NRG
and Velocity is going to join us after they have just, sadly, sent Cafe Rose out
of the tournament.
That's giving my first question, Velocity.
Do you know that that was on the line,
and another team's life was on the line?
Oh, we knew.
Oh, we knew.
We knew at the start of the day
what all the applications.
We were guaranteed second or third going into this match,
and yeah, we definitely knew what we were doing.
Well, you certainly entertained us at the very least.
I mean, talk us through those last two matchups.
Domination didn't really go your way, but the fact you turned it around on convergence and convoy
Do you think that was through the pick-and-ban phase or did you really just have the number of your opposition there?
I was definitely through the pick-and-ban phase. I can't lie
They really wanted to play sue their whole game plan was like Dongman strange
Like they loved it first map. We kind of could just already tell that
So yeah, we go into second map
We hit it with a fourth-band sue saved sue as well
And then go to the next map windows and the comms and he's like I think we put Sue in the two three bands here
No, I was like that's gotta be right especially
Mantis isn't the greatest spawnhold like met Sal says disgusting, but it's it can't be difficult into the right spawnhold
So yeah a lot a lot of big braining going on for the bands. Oh
Yeah
Well for sure and for you guys
I mean like you said you knew the applications obviously you sent the cafe Rose fans home very sad
But we do get to see more 100 Thieves in Sandroma potentially and with you guys too also
Forward teammates with on the other team right like what does that mean about?
What would like Rai amazing in those guys too because obviously you just came off of a team with dark zero and playing with those guys at land
Like what do you have to say about rai or any thoughts about anything I just said I guess we're respected velocity
That's a bit of it's a bit of a grudge match
obviously, Carola wasn't playing so
So that does stink, but it is a bit of a grudge match.
I was trialing for that team, and they did end up not going with me.
So to beat them, I think I beat them twice now.
It's pretty lovely.
I can't lie.
Oh, man.
Fair enough.
Beautiful.
I love the inside so far.
You validated the Envy's choice there.
I was assuming that was the thought process across the board as we were looking through
some of these measures.
Give me your break down of that OT touch, switching over to Cloak who has not had as much play because that was awesome to view as a viewer and you guys taking that home there right there.
Yeah, that's just moderate. Moderate might just be the smartest person when it comes to teleporting like on both ends.
I was just going to copy Sue and hop out, but he was like, I'll give you Cloak copy and I was like, sounds good.
Which was genius because then I blinded like everyone and we've been in combat. It was it was pretty it was pretty lovely
I don't even think it should have got that far. We should have held it on that second corner, but a little bit of a little bit
Too many comms going on
But yeah
Awesome dude, thanks for the insight
Now obviously velocity with that win as you've already mentioned puts you in second seed
Which will change your position in the playoff bracket either SSG or yeah
We lost depending on what happens in this final matchup. Is there a preference for you or does it not really matter?
You guys just know you have to be what's in front of you
I'm pretty sure it's locked in if I'm not mistaken because YWL lost to team liquid
I could be wrong, but I think because SSG have the head-to-head against YWL. We're guaranteed against YWL
but either way
That team is
They're definitely scary. They're very different from everyone else. They're a
tough team to plan for for sure but I think they have a lot of weaknesses
personally so I think we'll be able to hopefully handle them. I will say it was
a little interesting with our position right now because we either are on
the side of Team Liquid or the side of Swamp Gaming if you look at it in
in that way. But, yeah, we kind of have to play them at some point anyways, right? So it doesn't really matter.
Exactly. You have to be everyone to be a champion. And we're very excited to see how you do in playoffs.
Thank you so much for joining us for an interview and congratulations again on your win.
Thank you. Shout out, J3. Get twerking.
Well, I'm sure the 100 Thieves fans will be twerking themselves into playoffs as well because it
will mean they are through
and of course their fans,
be back bigger and better.
when you are out of a comp
but at the same time when
on someone else to win, it
happening in the end of the
well, I mean, the fact th
here in the first place, t
no matter how fly will lo
last week is impressive
to the players being underage
for sure. I mean that talking
point cannot be understated.
They picked up two brand new
players the week before
basically and just performed
in a group that was seen as
the group of death. So very
impressive.
Sad news for Cafe Rose, but
I'm sure they will be back
with a bang hundred thieves
survive in its energy who get
the win over sentinels. Now
everyone we still have one
more match for you here in
preseason really to round out
how group B is going to look
can nightmare qualify or
or will Lunex pull off the unthinkable taking down SSG? We'll find out after this break.
You remember the dusk for lights gripping tightly
Chopping those, those eyes, souls, body and
Across the world I see you standing in my way
I remember the time, the place we used to fight
When the sun and moon and time wandered
Remember when it was the time that we were grabbed
It's like a solid shadow swimming in ice
There's a mask on for missing you out
The arts are now for illustrious union
Breakfast is time to wake up with me
Do you remember who you really are?
Show me that you are certainly the only one for me
I'll be waiting for you
Blending in and out, I bang your price
We'll be facing smash in the dark world
The color is winter's and yet
We are bubbles in the air and rise
And I think your mind holds onto your powers now
And so it burns, we are bound to the end of time
We will fight, we will fight away
We will fight, pushing across the end space
But you are my disinfectant
You see the dawn, the flame burning brightly
Shining one nose and a reason, yes
Across all time I see you turning the sides
And do you see now our time, our time we can still fight
Like the wind is blind, we're no longer
And now it's the only time your heart is mine
The light was falling, darkness blowed out
He asked me if I'd go or not, then he obeyed
You've been smudging for the past, but you're sure
You've been chasing me for many, many, many
And when you've made it, I'll find your prize
Please, you know you've been sent to my signal
So hold on, don't you expect me to say yes
We are faithful to the end of the night
And I've been a good boy to walk on to your prowess now
Dance our voice, and we arrive on Sunday
Until the end of time
Wait, I'll bend your hands, hold on to your heart, look inside you
Can you feel it? It sparks in you
And even if I'm patient, it's ready to go
And I'm glad my truth lies within
This is flashing through time, oh
And for the rest of the day, yeah
We are so silly and unwise
And the sanction lines hold onto your powers
No, it's over
We are rivals in the ring
In the ring!
game. They've had a lot of
games right since the start of
today, and that is nightmare
because they need to find out
who's going to win this match
as to whether they can progress
even at one and four in the
standings. There is still a
chance they can move through
if space station gaming beat
lunax right here right now.
But of course, if lunax was
to win this one, they would
progress into playoff. So
plenty here at stake ship.
I mean, again, we couldn't
have set it up better
it's like Kevin Feige wrote the script for this. Of course it's like this. Again it's
leaving teams on the line once more in this matchup for the final matchup here before we
head over to our playoffs. It's just it's like it's at this point you can't believe
it but I'm excited man. Obviously as casters we just want to see this go to game three
again. The games have been insane today. A ton of fun to watch but I can't imagine
the nerves for sure. Exactly there is no cast of bias here as we look at SSG. I may
have bought their bundle, but no bias at all, dog. How are we feeling about
space station gaming? Because they seem to have got better and better the more
we've watched them. Yeah, this is the team that for sure have been kind of on
the bandwagon of a little bit, just like them getting better throughout the
weeks. And it's tough because it's, as you mentioned, this whole group has
just been a banger, just like up and down the board. It's been
inconsistent outside of one team, basically. Space station gaming though
has been, I think, easily the number two seed in terms of the performance so far.
Now, obviously things could change, right? Like if they were to lose today, but regardless,
this team, I think Nectar has been a big pick up for them after taking them from Sentinels.
And then, I mean, taking over, honestly, the back line has been impressive too,
I think, month coming over from Envy still looks as good as ever.
And then I think Fidel is kind of taking a step up. So, alongside their vanguard line
and blur, he's impressed me. So this Bayesian gaming squad has just been
consistent in a group of chaos.
Yeah, would you agree? I mean SSG just seemed to be like on the rise right now.
Yeah, I think they played the meta very well and they have, again, Nectar. They're just so good at every hero.
So I think it helps with that roster diversity and that's what we were talking about before.
I think you need to be flexible. You need to be able to run the dive stuff.
You need to be able to play into those L-Stock comps. You know, you gambit comps, you rush comps.
You got to be able to have all of it because the team is going to pick up on your weakness and just force you on that consistently.
And I don't see a weakness on this team fully yet.
that. Well, on the other
side, we have a lunax who can
maybe be the spoilers of the
party of nightmare. Remember
Lunax already beat nightmare,
and that's the reason why
nightmare are in this
situation because it was an
unexpected result from some,
but certainly a deserved one
dog. They looked excellent
once they got into the flow
of things. Yeah, lunax kind
of has that clutch gene a
little bit, right? Just
considering what's happened,
like you mentioned about
that's happened with them too.
Throughout it's impressive, it's insane
and they're a fun team to see how they perform
like with Reedus too on the ELSA.
He's been crazy alongside.
I think if he's playing well as he tends to win,
you know, I'm curious as well as if we see the Dr. Strange
sort of impact phase through into this game
and then also as she pointed out
and then we saw an interview with Velocity
is this sort of this Invis team up with the Dr. Strange
because I think that Lunex's squad
that capability of doing it.
I just really don't want to see
sound that plays on to the Jeff.
Like whenever we saw a sound that
plays on to the White Fox,
they're popping off,
but preferably less Jeff gameplay
out of the squad.
And I know some people in chat
were kind of asking how the
nightmare go through in a
three-way tie.
Well, the head-to-head records,
all three teams of TSM
nightmare and Lunex would have
beaten each other.
So it goes to map differential,
which is where nightmare would
shine, because at the moment
they are at minus three.
Lunex are at minus four,
and of course if they lose,
even if just by one,
they would be at minus five
the game. We're going to be
playing the game. We're going
to be playing the game. We're
going to be playing the game
on the left side of the map
and TSM, but minus seven. So
nightmare would go through at
one in four with map
differential. If you had told
me that someone would
qualify by a playoffs. With
one win. I probably wouldn't
have believed you right at
the start of everything
kicking off, but we really
have had drama left, right
and center here in the
Americas. But dog. What's
your gut feeling here? Do
you think that? Lunax
have the chance to maybe
that little bit too good.
Ah, man.
I would want to believe in them.
I really do.
Like, I think this Lunax team has what it takes,
but I'll have to shut the door on you.
I'm just going to immediately say, nope,
they are getting two out here.
It's SSG stomping out the dreams
of these poor players that are trying to make a name
for themselves and just running in everybody's face,
because that's what they do.
They're the villains.
They're evil.
You know, only evil people by the SSG bundle, obviously.
Gask, duh, like you.
I'm I am known to be pretty evil indeed. Now run that
SSG skin every single game in ranked
Shit when we look at Krakowa here to kick us off
We have actually seen SSG lose on this map and vote in domination
They have a 50% win rate across domination in general. Do you think that leans to maybe a lunax advantage?
You know I see we're coming from for sure as I do think lunax likes these open LOS's
But then there's some parts of this map that go back in those closed zone
So it's really there's a lot of versatility in Krakowa
I think Krakowa has just a lot of options in which you can play and I think SSG is a little more versatile
But yeah, I mean lunax like we got to mention Reedus has been one of the best hit scams
We've seen in this tournament definitely a shining star someone that I did not expect to play so well
Tones one of the best van pools too
So, you know those are very much on the table, but then we know all the talent outside of that on both teams
I still think I'm kind of a dog on this. I think SSG takes this but sense me and dog are casting. I think it's the two one
All right, brother, our final one of the day, we get to see the bandface done up here in
a moment.
You know, we've gotten an inside on the bandface, and things have changed a little bit.
I will say the main target is still very much the case, and that is going to be Elsa
and Gambit.
So, I would not be surprised if we see that, and what do you know?
Goodbye, double Elsa.
Oh, man.
Does that open up the tones?
gambit, you know, row comp combination. Like we saw how good that can be too. But this is also kind
of like what you said. I think you might be right about the 2-1 by the way, just because, I mean,
BlueNex are really good on domination compared to SSG and also, you know, did well against
Nightmere as well on, on domination. And they're one of the best domination teams in this
group. But yeah, if they don't win on domination, if they can't win on Kakoa, then I think
we're talking about it too well regardless I'm gonna be kind of interested to see if we do get that
rogue through man like do you think that's gonna happen as we see the gambit protect come through
yeah I think we either we're gonna see the rogue or it's gonna be banned I think both teams are
aware of how strong rogue is right now and I think there's a lot of teams that have drawn
attention to it the low key is obviously a huge band target too now that gambit's through
on both sides I'm assuming we'll see that as well no team wants to handle the double
region royal flush it's so aggressive but we'll see in a moment what that turns out to be
We can see the in this focus here and that's something we've been seeing a lot more of at least today
Yeah, so like what do you think that who was the stronger aspect of these team ups man?
Like is it the back line or is it with by the way that does come through and said of the van pool?
But is it the back line that enables it or is it just like the team up in general that makes these vanguards?
So like strong I
Think it's a team up
I mean for a stranger just it enables combinations and especially here for rogue
which it looks like that lock is coming through from the side of lunax which I
think is a great lock by the way it really does etch your up the tier on
tierless I have no doubt you just can provide so much extra damage you do a
burst of damage in every target hit by your abilities and you have piercing
abilities with your kicks that happen twice you can literally one shot
back lines if they're stacking and just force out so many cooldowns just
with one of yours so and not even being an ultimate and outside of that
obviously the ultimate super impactful too with heartbreakers so just a
really strong pick and I do think with that game of backline it just
super enabled. They go for
into the mantis protect to
so it's still available for
but they also, you know, s
woman match up. They want
to strange to this kind o
for the star world on the
I mean, I guess with the
kind of changes the band
a little bit right? Like
over towards these last
or like a vanguard into
of these duelists that a
Yeah, 100% I think things have definitely shifted just in this last few weeks alone from what we've been seeing
I don't think we saw it's on a star lord immediately
You know people kind of letting it through and weren't really sure about how gambit would be with the changes or how else it
Would be with the changes this week, but I'm just starting to figure it out now
But I think it's just gonna keep evolving, but I do think on this band phase. I think I give this to lunax
Okay, I honestly agree
I think I'm with you a little bit just because of the fact that they do get
mainly the rogue stuff. They also don't have to worry about the, uh, yeah, just that that's just through.
We've seen tones pop off on it just like we saw vested, right?
And then it's gonna be hard to peel it without the inbiz.
So I'm curious if Space Station does well with it considering the situation they're in, but they've done well too, shit, right?
Like we go over to the snap one, Kakoa, and I think this team can set the pace too,
but I think a lot of that also comes down to when we saw Blur on the Venom, right?
Like, I feel like Blur was doing a ton on the Venom like we saw Windo doing in the previous maps to enable the
I'm curious if you would even play it with the current situation on SSA.
Yeah, I mean, and you get away with having the mansets on Lunex and you don't even need to save it, which Space Station had to do.
So I think it just kind of worked out for him right now.
They also get away with that Star-Lord who plays so well into this composition.
And you mentioned not necessarily want to see Silent on the Jeff.
We'll see if that other opportunity comes through.
Psycho-Live, the switch was just going to be for Bubble to give him a little extra speed.
They go on that end and just help out Seaco on Strange.
strange. And going for that 2-2-2 just hard aggression sort of style. One side
redis playing that Phoenix which has kind of gotten more playtime as we've gone on
just in terms of like raw front to back damage. I tell them to maybe these slows
down neck rises engaged blur as well who was onto that venom trying to set up
constant dives with the damage boost. It is a battle of the sticks too. Salo
plays on controller but so is neck rise so anybody you know maybe on PC on
controller, give you a little something to look forward to as we watch this matchup.
Tico going way down in the HP there, able to escape in that moment with the jump.
The whole teams are kind of just feeling each other out, trying to understand what this
comp looks like, but the damage from space station is a lot right now.
This Mantis boost is just doing a ton for sure, like you mentioned, but Ultimate's
being built slowly.
Redis close to that, and Inferno's on-place, close to that invisible boundary that came
back to peel Blur.
Wow.
And they get the KO, no the heals are there, and they give it the points, so
to your in control and save their venom. Yeah, I think the venom just like the idea of taking
venom out there was just too much and getting the point, but they're able to cap this back
likely quickly here. No, it just gets matched back. Wasn't sure if they're going to wait on it after
the pick. Numbers are very low in the front line. They're still holding on. Great positioning by
those strats, but you can notice on the back that you see blur fall from if he was some good
shots there. So stalling point. That was some good positioning. Also going to have Fox
on the side of month protecting for that falls there from Tico though. And that's going
It's going to be another with Tolton Solid Blaze clean it up and they will retake this point after 26%.
I would have assumed we would have got a pick there, but excellent healing out of both strat lines.
Regardless, Lunax in control after that nice pick up on the floor.
Eventually, who is now switching over to the Rogue off of the Venom makes sense.
Definitely with the team up and basically what we've seen out of the Rogue so far.
But now, in terms of ultimates, let's see who gets the better backline ult right into this fight.
Space Station Gaming going to have that match as soon, but maybe we can get a KO through any of these strat ults
with the Phoenix, so the Anson and Ferno can delete all the shields given by Mantis.
This could be a huge iBug of Mode opportunity. I like when you can i up on vertical locations,
because it's very difficult to react. When you use the speed boost from the jump,
immediately to go into i instead of kind of falling down after the fact,
but I like to not use it there. Necrice tries to get it.
Diamond fork tackle. The carbon crush does not go through.
There it goes. The i's out. Cry's out. The teams are one, and Tolumnsuk's fall there is blurred.
It's that big and we see there's the butterfly in the back line because I have a motor. That's a good answer
month gonna get stopped in tracks for the fox worm goes away and that enables month to move once more
So still another point right now is lunax, but space station definitely has priority
Yeah, I mean this is gonna go
Jeterly they're away with yin song inferno until the gambit all got built they're coming back into it month with another
One of the iffy a bit late unfortunately for Logan, but Reedus does find one of the Fidel
I think well timed by team SSG as they reclaimed the point because they made this whole second
But it doesn't matter because Lunax is engaged and re-engaged with that gambit.
Maybe got a few too many KOs for say, so she's liking.
Yeah, I don't mind Necrox here on the Emma obviously, control players.
It's just, it's a great fit with Emma.
I think Emma does a decent job into gambit too as the team plays a little more
aggressive.
You can use that sign of deduction to try to catch somebody off guard who's
overextending just a little bit.
And just find an answer.
But right there, Necrox is using it to initiate, trying to give them the
chance to get on point.
But Lunax looking really good here, tongs with a heartbreaker.
Wow, goes down to like 100 HP,
but great focus by the backline right back up
as Tiko's able to find month.
And speaking of this map here,
Lunex's priority, they're looking pretty good right now,
but out goes the Rage of Royal Flush once again.
They come back into it,
I mean they have to touch last second as well,
missing tones on the side of Lunex as well.
And okay, Lugan goes down,
so nice job with that re-engage,
able to find those two KO's if he falls too.
Re-claim at the point,
Lunex just kind of give it up
until last second Tiko gets staggered,
but he'll have that eye for next fight in upcoming.
We're gonna have another out cycle
again on the end of the infernal upship.
I think last time they matched it with the month ultimate
due to the pace that Lunax is playing at.
But let's see where they kind of take this upcoming fight.
I mean that matters a lot, right?
Where connector get off this silo ultimate
for Lunax's side?
You know, where do they set up Tico
to get in any aggression with Ify
who's now on to that benefit?
Yeah, there's a lot of all potential here
for Lunax in this next fight.
There's not going to be too many answers quite yet.
They've got to take this fight fast.
If they want to guarantee a potential higher percentage,
at least in taking this point, if he goes under,
can't decide where to go with the feast right now.
That's going to be a tough look.
Can't even get to the front line.
Just great separation by the back.
As Nectar now is able to fight to make it three.
And now he's giving him enough time here to build back.
Ultimate to match.
Wow, Nectar could not be more clutched with the four piece.
Oh my goodness, you're right.
Clutch indeed.
And now they got the portal play back from spawn.
is ready to CC it, potentially any grabs or anything.
Wait, do they have, okay, here comes the portal at 90%.
Neck rise is coming through as well
to try to grab anybody coming out of it.
They're not gonna go for the CCs to stop it.
But this is gonna be a heavy whole fight coming up.
Can Redis counter, Doomsault may be coming in a moment.
And there goes the Solar Surgeons, the eye.
Followed up by the Apsong is huge.
This is if he's able to take out Medell.
Doom goes down too.
That is two strategists in the middle
of a Solar Surgeons ultimate.
Redis from downtown with some good shots on the nectar is gonna find a triple and that could do it here
Not sure portal will come in time the point being taken. Yes, dude
Should be able to get portal but they're staggering so much
It's gonna be very difficult to win this portal flight if they can get it there
Read is for the huge John talk about the value of that son and there it is once more
It's Redis finds month with the melee the portal comes through for the touch
But the numbers are going to be dwindling blur does have all available here for space station no alts yet for lunax
but Flurr goes down. Jones finds one iffy on a fadal. Nectar takes out Logan.
But I'm not sure the trade will be enough as yes, the haymakers are flowing and that should do it as Lunex takes map one.
Oh my god, I'm surprised you didn't want to do it because like maybe Blurr commits the ult, they don't have the gambit ult afterwards.
I guess they didn't need anything anyways, but that's a tough fight man.
Like I feel like they lost it due to the fact they grouped around the point man because they all came together, played around the Mantis ult,
but they popped it early straight into what we mentioned about the counter that I from Tiko and then the follow-up there from Rita
It's just purely counter it and I think before they play it well when it was months old used because
Obviously that's just gonna be healing instead of just over helping stuff
But I mean you know shit right left the over health and stuff is getting deleted by N song with the Avalgo motor
You can't live that combo, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's just too much to handle. It's a great combination
It's just a lot of damage in a quick window and it gives strange the opportunity to use that dark magic to just clean up
whoever's around should you need to, but honestly, it wasn't even needing to as the end
song was doing enough damage in that moment. But we're going to see here what space station
does to change things up. And it looks like they're going to try. You see a little more
aggro play from blur on the venom now. We'll see what happens, but lunax does have
lots of advantage on the rip here. And it is going to be a gambit charge prior to
Fidel having a chance at it. If they can find Fidel in this fight with this
game at all early, this could be a huge start for lunax. This is tough as like
SSG don't have a good rogue player long term for you seen out of rogue so far.
It's not even banned, right? Like we can't even play it. It's very interesting.
I think long term as we see these team progress, regardless of result,
but obviously on a domination, that type's not their preferred.
Snipes cross map coming out, Reedus early on.
And there goes the commitment now.
Partbreakers available to stop Fidel from getting this off and get on top.
But Fidel might have this answer looking for it right now and does get it off.
Well played there in good position by Fidel.
Coming right in is Nectar.
Gonna find one.
Month with one.
And Nectar again.
Tico tries to trade, but Nectar's on a three-piece.
Somebody stop them.
That could be four.
Wow.
Again on this Sylocke.
Yeah, excellent work in that fight.
As soon as she'd get it done.
And I like as well Doom going over to the Phoenix off of
that Mantis as well.
You know, we see like a lot of the best teams,
I think, kind of funnel through objective,
you know, not fully committing until the right moment.
You talked about a shit that was the correct moment and it protected a pop the ultimate right after
The ultimate committed from lunax play out of 25
They have invisible boundary to play on the inside of they also have that combo from earlier where they committed and some inferno and the
I'll go over the most of she they have nothing to really peel it
So they have to play a little bit split make so they don't get hit by design
And you'd start here for SSG and mom's able to find one on it
That's a huge start once again. I'll give them the advantage to buy time here
Lunex has so many ults, but Reedus falls to Nectar.
Nectar in the neutral, already almost at 50%
Logan able to find Month and try to trade this a little bit.
Oh, the crabs!
Moving on.
And that does force out the boundary from Silent Blaze,
who takes out Fidel in that moment.
That could be a point take here from Lunex,
but trying to see how much percentages they
can squeeze out is going to be SSG.
Oh.
I was about to say, I love how I see she's playing aggressive.
But wait, the whole thing in the end zone
in front of the right side, Logan, totally fine.
OK, interesting.
Doom, I don't know what that was about.
That was very candid out of it, but you know, that was it, I like the pace that they played at, but that was a little bit too far forward with Munk going down, I guess it's fine.
This is the tough part with the M2 ship, right? Like, I feel like Necrox got all the everything he kind of wanted for, so maybe there's no boundary like you mentioned.
Also canceling the Avalgo Modo from Tico, but it doesn't end up mattering long term, sadly, for the MFros player of SSG who are now down in Ultimate.
And it's going to be a similar situation where Logan will have ult first for Lunex.
Fidel could get it in this fight.
Neck rise and monk.
Havalt's available and here goes a heartbreaker combination.
The idea now is to run it to everybody and sure they cannot get ult softened.
That's exactly what Tom's is doing.
Logan's going to follow up and try to hit the backline with purple.
Does that. Goodbye Fidel. Huge pick there.
Another goes down on the side of Necker.
Great target.
Brio and a huge eye comes in on the two and that could be a clean up.
There's two more but that was a lot of commitment.
Naturally I was needed after they had already lost four.
Yeah, I think I'm with you there. Maybe they're too scared of like next you're doing work as well
But still in this opening fight don't have is about invisible balance
Or maybe we can set it up to with neck rise do not going over to the dare devil, but that's tough
That was a really hard fight to win. I think alongside that regional flush with the commitment
From Reedus upcoming fight those SSG could they could set up nectar onto basically nothing
We want now over the jet to give a little speed boost maybe on the nectars engaged, but he stunned up already
Blurred, popped that E early.
The Space Station, the health comes right back
and there's the engagement combination with Neck Rise.
Out of damage now, Emma.
With that sign of deduction does significantly more damage
with the recent changes.
Month able to find if the T-Co goes down two
from Nectar who has yet to miss an ultimate.
The Dow, Dooms, Month, Neck Rise.
Everybody get a piece of the pie now.
And Space Station Gaming wants this W bad
and trying to take this back quickly.
78% for Lunax here.
And they will have slight altered advantage.
Excellent push again playing the aggression very well. This is what they do
You know going for that slip swap over to the Jeff as well
Then you cost pressure with the back line also you could see if he went over to the thing temporarily was thinking about switching to that character
But I'm going to fight I need to see how they do the usual neck rise already spawned slow down the left side
This has been a really bad showing I think out of neck rise
Goes down there again lunax and it'd be up in numbers silent place. I was having visible foundry available
There's no answer ultimate here for SSG.
So why not be safe with it as you see here?
Logan able to find and blur and they get this point, 80%.
The idea is using that boundary to ensure they win it.
But after the fact, you look back a little hindsight,
say maybe I didn't need to, but it's never a bad decision
if it's going to put you to the 99 number.
And especially when Logan will have
all significantly faster than Fidel.
And that's the beauty of having that heartbreaker
from Tones constantly reducing alt charge,
making it even harder to get those alts off.
You gotta touch two, somebody has to go in, overtime takes down,
Reedus has to hold with his scamp at all.
This combination has been brutal when they already get rid of Doom.
That was disturbing chasing down Nectar with some great movement, but wow.
Can Nectar get away?
I'm not sure that was disgusting.
What?
It's back to, wait a minute, throw the portal.
That was dirty as Luna Hex.
Take this home two to zero.
And I do think that it's one of the band phase, buddy.
Yeah.
I mean, this is what we talked about with 100 Thieves, no?
Like, this is the exact same scenario, shit.
I don't want to overreact, obviously,
but like, what do you think?
And you're like, obviously you don't want to insult players,
but like, man, we can't not play road, right?
Like that character's disgusting right now.
We're not banning.
If you're going to not play it,
you got to make sure it's a priority ban.
I'm with you, 1,000%.
It's because the only way as you want to fight
is when Nectar had ult, right?
Like every single time, easy SVP, obviously.
But outside of that, I mean, I like him.
I like the idea of trying to counter dive,
but it just doesn't seem possible right now
with how disgusting that character is.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I think Nectar, obviously they deserve to, you know,
SVP, they're 11 finals.
We look over Redis really good.
Once again, we shouted out Redis prior to this saying,
keep your eyes on Redis on hitscan.
Dude is just locked in.
You can see the tracking is just disgusting.
19K damage there, more than anyone in the lobby.
But then all the frontline, the Vanguard 686,
they're getting a ton of influence as well.
And they looked really strong out there.
Obviously Tiko making the switch there
and it's showing up on the side like towards the end but they were running
that triple for a while
guys is it happening
are we actually gonna see this from lunax or is it just a domination thing
that's the biggest question for me
it seems to be the question we've been asking ourselves every single time
one of the lower seeded teams takes on a bigger team in dom
or is it a little bit of arrogance maybe from some of these higher seeded
teams as you said is it
a situation in the picking bands where you're thinking oh well we don't
to get rid of this hero because
we can deal with it. We know
better, but then learning a lesson
in map one. Lunax are one map
away from moving on into
playoffs. And of course, sending
nightmare down and out dog.
Do you think they've got what it
takes to go that one step
further? Do you think now we go
into convoyer convergence?
Everything changes here. I mean,
maybe we go to a good map where
dive is like solid and stuff. If
would converge this map.
But I think it's what you guys said.
I think it's going to be 2-1.
It's really looking close.
And I think to shift the discussion,
and this might get a little toxic, so prepare for it.
But does this start the discussion of Vanguard controller
players being phased out of the game?
Because if we think about it in the current patch,
a lot of the really strong controller players
aren't viable.
Our heroes, we have Emma Frost.
She's good for sure, but we just saw it get
matched by Rogue and dominated.
We've seen earlier as well Angela players are sorry, like
control players play Angela, Angela not having a very good patch.
This is arguably Rogues patch for sure.
So some of the best controller Vanguard seem to be not be viable right now.
We're going to midtown next.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm sticking to sorts of discussion
about roller Vanguard players, maybe not being, um, the most viable currently
in the, in this current situation in the current patch.
I mean, she had been opened up a count of worms there, peripheral
wall that we've been talking about since the age of old time, right? This has been a conversation
of controller players versus mouse and keyboard. Obviously, their strength and weaknesses to both.
I mean, I'll open the floor to you. What do you think about Vanguard and controller and the
heroes that are available to them right now? Yeah, I will say that I do agree with the fact
that I think that Vanguard's in this current meta need to require fast action capabilities.
They're not the slower pace that you've seen success with on controllers like Strange,
Magneto and Emma who do a really good job even Angela for example do a good job plan a little slower and more methodical right now
It's about speed. It's about momentum. It's about spinning quickly. It's about reacting fast
And yeah, I don't think you can do that on roller as significantly at this level of play
But you know, there's still folks that are gonna make it work, but yeah, I think I'm with you on that dog
Don't go maybe I'm sure you have people after you after you're saying it
I think a lot of these controller players can switch to mouse and keyboard.
That's the thing.
Like a lot of them, and this might be discussion long term, if you switch back and forth, because
I know I saw spark chief talking about how you get aim assist like on the grabs on Angela
and stuff like that being crazy as hell.
And also the joystick movement to for Angela just feels good.
It just it's good for controller, obviously, like certain heroes are better for certain
inputs, as shit mentioned.
So definitely just is a patch thing, I guess for sure, but yeah, also like I wonder if
you would could switch inputs mid series.
Like what if you go from controller on Angela, then you play keyboard and mouse venom or something
like they could do that, right?
Like all these guys are very talented.
You see smash on the bench of was the energy or what right?
He's been a really good player on the mouse and keyboard now after switching off of
roller.
I don't know if I'm going to allow that, you know, I don't want to play as turning
up with mouse and keyboard and controller.
Surely that's again.
I think it's everything I know in eSports, right?
You can't do that.
I mean, it is a great topic of discussion.
I'm sure it's going to be discussed then.
People will change back and forth, Doug.
You're completely right, depending on the meta.
All of our best players in this game, too,
I was underrating, I think, a lot of console players.
But a lot of the really good players playing keyboard
and mouse like the 100 Thieves team,
most of them were rollers before.
I believe Delena was.
We talked about that many times.
These guys made the transition flawlessly.
They don't have bad aim.
If you're a pro level player on a controller or mouse and keyboard, I would believe it if
you could play vice versa, um, except for me, I can't play with a controller for the
life of me.
I can't.
I don't know how you guys do it.
Well, that's the beauty of Marvel Rivals is that you can play on both inputs and for
me, always the best eSports are those that can include both mouse and keyboard and controller.
Marvel Rivals doing it right, but it is just a meta thing of sometimes heroes aren't
going to be as good as others or the different peripheral.
to realize back in ship about this actual match. We saw it was going to be midtown here. Do you think
that does lean towards Lunex or do you think this maybe opens up the floor for SSG? Yeah,
this is SSG's decision and I think they like again they're very versatile comp and I do think
on maps like midtown you need to have that versatility. You need to be able to play some
weird stuff. So I do think this leans in their favor but Lunex ran a really solid triple
off the rip there and I think that's what you're looking for on defense. They're going to
be starting on defense right now. Maybe we see it happen again. I think the band phase
to change here for the side of
SSG. SSG. Are they going to
change their band phase? Will
they learn their lesson from map
one or maybe just maybe can
lunax do what some would say is
the unthinkable of taking down a
partner team and also a team
that has looked very formidable
so far here in Group B. And if
they do remember they will
qualify for playoffs and they
not only do they progress, but they can also stop the likes of nightmare going forward.
Yeah, maybe, man. I mean, this is going to be a banger matchup, regardless.
And for sure, like you mentioned, you guys talked about it.
All this tournament nerves have to be at an all-time high.
Well, nerves may be at an all-time high.
It is going to be SSG versus Lunex.
It's MAP2. Can Lunex get it done in two, or will SSG send us to a third?
Guys, take it away.
All right, my friend, you and I both caught a 2-1.
We will see what happens here.
The ball is in Lunex's court and
they can absolutely change who
progresses here as we move into the playoffs.
I'm looking forward to seeing this
match up the band phase begins now.
Good bye to Elsa on both sides.
Alright, removing that character.
I like it so far.
And you know what, like I think.
I think it goes down to what you said, right?
If we're going to allow this
game to go through thus far,
you know what does the band phase look like?
Three get rid of tones is rogue or
we're going to keep playing against it.
You guys mentioned earlier though, like Lunex maybe not the best on Convoy regardless of composition, so it may not matter.
This was kind of a weakness, I believe.
I mean, out of a lot of the MRC teams that okay, they're hovering it.
They were hovering it.
Yeah, I think it needs to happen.
But okay, yeah, I was going to say, I'm with you 100%.
Like you're absolutely right.
It has to come through.
And I think that's a smart decision.
That's what I wanted to see changed here.
If you're not going to match it, just make sure they can't play it because they clearly are using it to its full extent.
in a game and in a round where Gambit's available
and Gambit not only makes the Rogue incredibly strong,
but being able to go on top of that Gambit,
reduce all charge to ensure your Gambit has more charge,
faster, getting more ultimates,
it's just gonna put your team in a better spot.
So we'll see the change now.
Fair enough, fair enough.
And I saw they were hovering the Star Lord Protect 2
to see if they wanna play it,
but it's gonna be the Invis to get to that
one-sided matchup as well.
And now, Shib, this also begs the question,
do we get rid of the Dr. Strange, maybe potentially?
Do we start to get more into the van pool again alongside the game?
But who would you go for the ban here?
Is it a vanguard or maybe even?
Okay, it is the van pool.
Okay. Yeah, that's a good ban out.
We saw that a lot even in the last matchup because van pools just play so well
into the triple comp essentially plays like a duelist.
You play him similar to Thor, right?
Where you're just flanking, trying to find value on the back line,
distracting them and getting picks.
And, you know, it plays exactly the way dualists do.
And that's why you see a lot of dualist players
when they're running those triple comps run that van pool.
but we will see how it looks right now.
I do think this is a significantly better
banding phase for SSG,
and I'm looking forward to seeing this matchup.
Lunex gonna be defending first SSG on the offense.
We'll see if they have a comp to break this frontline.
All right, yeah, this is gonna be interesting.
Like let's see if Blur has that one-sided matchup
that we've seen out of earlier tones
and maybe even adding a vest into that as well.
like we'll see how neck rises will does onto that Emma frost with this matchup
specifically. Um, and then for Lunax, you know, how do they react to it?
Considering we also know they're more of a domination focused teams at their
teamships. So midtown. Now we're going to for space station gaining. Obviously
feel like they have an edge over the next year and trying to force that
number three you mentioned.
And here we will go. You can see the cops are walking out the door on
tones and very strong. Hulk, they're likely to run that with more of a
They're going to be playing off each other.
The Gamma Gottlitz are getting some play here on defense.
Personally love to see that team up when you're playing things,
adding a little more value there, a little extra range.
And then you can see on SSG's front,
month going to be on that Jeff right now.
That might just be his speed out the door,
but I'm not 100% sure.
We'll see in a moment.
Don't necessarily need speed when the points are
in front of you, so it could just be the play.
I'm trying to find value with the Jeff,
but Hulk is a very good pick into Jeff.
And you can use that defensive capabilities on the bubble
to just save your whole team and to get it ultimate.
Let's see what it looks like now.
And here the band phase and how it went.
The point out that the invisible woman is
is unmatched in terms of lunaxes side going for that Jeff
and Gambit combination.
Really fast paced set up Nectar's dives.
Also the stalwart's still available too for both sides
but both opting into sort of those pseudo different heroes
to play.
It's like Elsa's been the mainstay
but they're still like that sort of gap out of the heroes.
Reed is able to find Dune there
and that's a good start to the side of Lunex on defense.
Numbers up for them, getting their footings back a little bit
and going to retake that height.
A lot of battles for this height will take place.
As Nectar's going to consistently be peppering Reedus
and try to find that backline,
and available moments.
Our looks are charging quick, though.
For Silent Blaze, Reedus at 71% already.
Talking about that hitscan aim,
felt a little bit different.
A little claim with it, man.
Like all the hitscan guys are just crazy at this level
for sure, but all the space they'll give it,
Right like he mentioned, the Ultimates being built and Song Inferno up at a moment.
But still, this defense has to give it space, control, then Reedus gets deleted by Nectar.
Nectar able to find Reedus here, out goes that invisible boundary from Silent Blaze.
You can see the answer for now, as Logan's able to find Blurred,
he's going to put a number up once more for Lunex, needed something through that.
As now they're going to start the Rage Immortal Flush, the question is, are they going to answer it?
No, for now, not quite there, 85%.
and I'd like to drop back good kite there from the side of space station not allowing anything to happen
and that's a win for space station we're going to come back heavy with ultimates in this fight
likely going to use nectar with fiddle again to see if they can find a few
a good point I mean at the moment two the defense doesn't have that media ramp
it may be counter to starboard but the stunning of the sky I mean they could just
make crazy here but here's that opening push on anything and there's that combination
Goodbye everyone three fall neck rise ever to get a two-piece neck. They're gonna find two Fidel finding tones another now as everyone's finding a
Double and they'll get moving past this ambulance. There could be a portal play to keep it right by the ambulance
You can walk for the third touch try to ensure three fights and said they're gonna play a little safer
And that point was already pushed up pretty far pretty much can't guarantee three now
Well, that is interesting to this Tika went over to the Wolverine
the sky walk is done and then to follow up maybe try and take him out the sky but
doesn't he try that would have been pretty dope but not gonna work out neck
you're gonna clean that up goodbye tones and this should be point one here in a
little bit as there will be no portal back up in numbers month let's have
ultimate available to blur gonna be there shortly if working get on top of
the backline with that heartbreaker should ensure the fight win as we see
if he falls we see Tico go down blur is gonna pull out and use that road
necker finds love and Rita skits one but the numbers are too much of
their favor right now the stall's gonna happen for a moment on the venom that
was insane movement by the way but should not be for too long yeah I mean
you do that you're hitting like jet levels of like g-forces for sure like
how fast you get around like that man Jesus but I mean space station they get
it done and bar going over to the uh to well the road mismatch is huge
obviously but neck rice as well like towards the end got the grab played
around the car and obviously was able to do way more against the next one
and Kones has to commit that hard on the doomed in the sky,
upcoming fight though, she had no ultimates for them just yet.
However, I think Nektor has been such a force
and Lunax have to counter it.
In this case, they go Tico to Navelor
because they're really scared of this dive at the moment
and SSG have Lunax on the back foot.
And once again, Lunax is gonna be up in ultimates right now.
So we'll see if this is their chance to win one,
but Nektor already has that ult available.
You're talking about them just pressing into Lunax
forcing some mistakes, that's exactly what's going on here.
But we're gonna see what happens as this is another opportunity,
there is some value in this raging royal flush.
This time they wanna find one, two,
Nectar though trades with Redis once more.
Nectar just keeping eyes on Redis at all times,
understanding that that is definitely a prior target.
You wanna make sure you can drop Redis out of these fights
who does have end song inferno available,
but there goes that raging royal flush
and it will be answered now by Fidel in this next fight
and but Fidel and Nectar just keep doing this combination
and it keeps working out.
Nectar doing a great job
with that dance of the butterfly getting value.
Yeah, next is perfectly positioned at all times.
I mean, here it comes in just a moment,
fast play from the SSG.
Ooh, but if you get committed,
Tico is also gonna be jumping on that neighbor.
Haven't seen a ton of neighbors,
but when we do it, you're really Tico,
and it's not pretty successful in the past.
You're able to find if he does commit the meteor M there
to try to live, but you can't eat a punch,
and that will make them pay for it
as our space station will have a huge advantage,
dropping the rest of them slowly but surely,
And we'll have all the advantage in this fight.
This is looking like another potential point here, SSG.
This is looking like we saw out of the NRG game earlier,
where Lunax are trying to run that 2-2 style,
but they don't have the Loki.
Like the Loki, like, ban is really stopping
from playing this slow pace,
you know, Namelor Phoenix composition
compared to the Elsa Phoenix we saw earlier,
but Tiko not going to match that silo.
Good movement here by Nectar.
Just consistently 180, find values,
finds if he wants more blur you know what why don't we see this last match because this is a really really clean play
Right now across the board from blur just show it up getting values doom takes out read us once again read
His fault Logan in the dangerous thought month does have the fox available
Both the loader gonna be able to commit here points very close point four meters left and that will do I believe is
Told me where the Ranger up close comes in
I think it's kind of a panic plant this point is Tico trying to hold on to the point
They're just barely staying there.
Nectar looking for the back line.
Does a decent amount of damage,
but they just get point for free.
Yeah, I mean they tried to stall
wait for vanguards to get back,
but could not and Nectar's POV
is just cinema for sure.
And same thing with blur, like you said.
Nice job to wait for Kiko to eventually
go down Stagger himself.
But this goes back to,
okay, now they're going for the Dr.
Strange, going to something else.
I like that for the side of Lunax.
Regardless, like you said, blur.
The reason why this squad has been so good
as the full play comes out
is because of dismay on Rogue
on Rogue and also Venom.
Yeah, very strong front line for sure.
Breeders doing a great job too on the duals.
So this team definitely has a ton of talent.
And then looking forward to seeing them just grow
as a unit over time and see what they can do in this scene
as it develops.
But looking back again, Space Station,
get that point.
And once again, we're off an altered bandage.
That just seems to be the story here consistently.
Force Logan to use ultimate there to try to hold point,
didn't work out.
So now, again, Space Station going
to have heavy advantage, month 5-1,
Blurrified to nether nectar. What do you know another all trait with value?
It might have been a little bit of over commitment, but
Farming ult so fast at this point doesn't even matter another kick there. I mean nectar somebody stop them
Yeah, somebody's gonna stop them man, I don't think if he knows what to play dude
It's always going back over to Hulk 2 or is he gonna go back over to Shrae?
But I think their vanguard line looks so confused once Bro got banned man like you talked about it earlier
earlier, that Bane's really set them back because every single fight it feels like one of them is down.
Yeah, Doom starting up here, Galactic Legend Nectar and a dangerous spotter committed there by Tone, they're able to find one.
That's a good start and just gonna stall the point. Oh, nice tackle there, you know, plays great. The cap is Emma.
I do think Emma still does. It fits that role perfectly, month finding Tone's there.
And once again, Lunax are kinda on their heels, but there's only 36 seconds on for point three.
Yeah, I mean, they still have a good timing to work with.
It's a good point, Shib, that you brought up now.
Redis can stall up for a little bit longer.
Somebody else comes through.
Holiday should be free, except...
Oh, huge.
The great answer right there.
Using the sidestep action to stop the Galactic Legend
is just one of those answers that works very well.
And especially when Galactic Legend could be a big problem,
but Logan did not have that combination.
But it would have been a little more valuable
if that was the case.
Dune finding this off-angle play right now,
farming ult as fast as possible.
Blurr gonna engage heavy, get towards the back line.
Bacambic gets that ult off first before the ult charge gets taken away.
Lord chasing still, trying to find something.
Not able to make that work out.
Overtime ticking down now.
Lunex doing a good job holding, but doomed finds that pick from SSG.
And now it is going to be a 5v6, a visible boundary.
And freedom charge get committed.
It's all about just trying to find a way back to that before OG takes down.
Silent Glazes won.
Interesting layer for Swarov, but is it enough?
They find that correct.
Both vanguard's downshift.
Overtime ticked.
Anybody got brutal play?
The answer is no, so it's only squishes to help stall
and they're not gonna stall for any longer.
Space station game and get stopped
at the very end of the math.
And this is still a winnable match here for Lunex.
You know, not getting to point three
gives your team hope, honestly.
It's an attack-sided map once you get cooking through point one.
If you break that spawn hope for some reason,
team just seemed to keep it going
and I think that kind of happens later as well.
So we'll see what happens here with Lunex.
I think space station game
and performed very well there.
Could not quite get the job done, it's still a great push.
Yeah, I think if, I imagine shit,
I don't know what your answer would be to this.
I know it's reasons he buys because we're watching this game,
but I feel like if you asked 99% of GMs in the league
in the Ignite who they would pick up
as they're starting player and to build the round,
I don't know about you, but it might be Nectar.
Look, I feel like Nectar in general
is just such a flexible player.
Who would your answer be?
Obviously, you've got a reasons he buys right now
with me probably, but who would you build around?
Who would you pick up any player?
There's a lot of answers for that for me right now.
I think energy's up there.
Nectar's up there.
He's discussing everything and just duelist front.
I mean, there's so many people I could bring up.
And then, you know, the strat line backline
is super important right now.
Dude, there's so many answers.
But for reasons he buys, I totally understand.
I think Mechner's so versatile.
That's what you're looking for from the duelist,
a duelist that could play virtually every meta pick.
But I think Sallock's in a good spot right now.
And if you are discussing on Sallock,
you can apply so much pressure
in virtually any comp.
You can play with a poke.
You can play in with a dive.
Because any of you just farm frontline against Brawl.
There's a lot of solutions to Sallock right now.
But Loki's, obviously, a problem.
3, 2, 1.
Yeah, for sure.
I think the flexibility is insane.
This reminds me of those like social media posts.
You know, you have $5 and then you
start to give every player a price tag to build a roster.
Yeah, those are fun.
There's really a lot of fun.
But we start off immediately to go for the group cost
off the rip for Lunex, alongside Redis now,
who is a traditionally hit-game player going over
the Wolverine for Tico to be on the Phoenix.
Yeah, I don't mind it.
I think it's a change in pace here.
It might work out.
It's going to throw him for a loop a little bit.
You can see a little more traditional triple cop there from space station on defense, but wow nectar once again, just not missing a beat great damage there tracking is just obscene folks for those who are like how do I get like them you can actually look at their stats.
You look at their DPI you can look at all their sensitivities in game now make sure you go check out the eSports tab.
And that's not even something I'm supposed to plug I just think it's so cool.
I think that's awesome.
And eventually be able to take cross here as well.
Check out steps.
So make sure you do that.
But we're gonna start up once more with this fight.
Lunax, get a little bit of space here off the ramp
and space station, do exactly what they want to.
Yeah, kind of tag teaming the high ground,
setting both a strat.
Antico and the high ground, I control it.
But this is not as clean necessarily as this.
As Jesus, attack was so far to the ambulance side,
but regardless of this ultimate being built up.
Upcoming fight, Fidel should have it at the same time
as Logan in a moment.
Alongside build middle for Bloor
who has been insane on the road.
We'll see what happens up coming fight though.
a lot of cross-base given.
And there goes the initiation.
Told you the great pick there.
On to Nectar on that side lock.
Moved to Chaos.
Out goes a sonic seduction.
Trying to hide behind point for the moment.
Use those walls from Groot to shut that down.
Honestly, a pretty good answer.
Oh, the idea there for Ritas was big.
Did not.
And the fruition is doing taste up to the sky
with a meteorite.
I'm trying to avoid that meteor and does that.
There's not a passive available.
So can't play two aggro there.
And there is a big prism.
And they get one pick on a neck rise.
And that's all the value you need with an ultimate one is plenty sometimes it's worth making that happen
We see an opportunity what a pick there from the bell as well as it be again gets one out goes
The invisible boundary tones once more on this group looking so good
Yeah, that was a that was insane like you said he weaved it through that MS shield
Just like bottom left the bottom might got stopped portal play coming out of necronize though last second ship
It's gonna be a tough retouch, but excellent bubbles out of iffy so far
And Necra is able to drop back towards the team after the portal comes through.
Good stall for the moment. Good utilization of the portal.
You'll see a lot of the teammates going back in portal. You may say, why?
Oh, this could be huge first.
Bang, Redis towards that gambit. Goodbye, Fidel. Huge target prio there.
Showing that does not come through. Does not get all charged in that fight.
Tico on the nectar and 0.5 meters away from the taking point one with some time on.
Yeah, it actually worked so far. Just with the group walls.
I mean, I thought they could delay for long enough, but no straddles to save SSG.
of SSG, removing a second phase of the map with more old charge given, like most importantly
you talked about tone so far, able to play the group and month gets staggered out delayed.
This guy obviously in Wolverine Redis, good flexibility for him to go play it, but this
is going to be interesting as we move forward.
No Wolverine yet either matched by SSG as they still feel comfortable playing this
composition that they're on.
Yeah, it's tricky right because when you see group comps you think damage, damage
really hurts group, you know, in ladder you can see some of the more like punishment
I'm not sure that's the answer right now.
He just got to have that focus when walls are breakable,
but you do also have the gambit to use that cleanse on some of those ults
and find value that way, definitely on the table.
But that's why you're going to see more of these unique looking for one target ultimates
and just walling them off so that those kind of answers don't come through.
It looks like it was answered right there, but Redis off the back of that
is able to find one, make it two Redis as Logan takes out Blurr
and they're just walking this point for almost three minutes on.
And the flaws have been show up today and you know we do have ults at least for us this
G side and that's the thing in shit but they can maybe get a, well they don't have
coral right? Cause these are earlier huh? So this is going to be a very close fight.
I wonder if Lunax is going to go aggressive or even wall them off. It looks like the
answer is aggression towards this show.
Dude, this bracket is so insane. I mean I can't believe there's opportunity for
this team to come home and take this. Everyone can beat anyone. Anyone can beat
anyone. As we see Tico coming back in board does go down once again. Lunax up one.
Wow, that looked like it was going to land.
Does not, does get trans right there,
but the sonic seduction, but PaySport, as Redes gets one,
looking for another one.
GUIC2, I do the points already capped,
and they are walking with almost four minutes on.
Lunex, wanna end this right now.
Oh my God.
I mean, they could, dude.
This is so possible for Lunex's side.
Now you have to say, okay,
they used a lot of Wilson in the last fight.
That's something that could be massive moving forward.
Blur does have that rogue ultimate to go.
It's not like it'll be insanely to counter anything,
but they do have to do the Wolverine finally ship.
At the last minute, you talked about how it's very easy
to snowball for the second phase,
but three minutes last point,
this is gonna get very dicey for SSG.
There goes the heartbreaker getting out of the back line here.
SSG, Nectar gonna commit heavy now,
trying to get their back line
and does that Logan, silence, fall, blur, Nectar again.
I mean, there's just so much huge pick potential
and play here coming through from SSG,
but in the downtime,
After those ults get combined and used,
it's like they struggle heavily in this neutral.
And neutral's incredibly important right now.
And Unex just keeps seeming to find value with this group.
There's that switch.
Yeah, they get the Invis matchup too.
And they get the mag as well.
I mean, Dube's going to have to go off as well as dodging
all these cooldowns.
And read us over to the Daredevil now.
It's the change up.
So they're playing it perfectly.
Yeah, they're going to try to mark group two on the mag,
potentially get an E on one of these ultimates.
And you essentially just stuff anything possible.
But, wow, once again, Lunax off the back of Logan's ultimates.
But I'm curious about shotcalls at this point,
because this team is looking so coordinated right now.
Our pressing forward, this is very much in their hands.
Can they shut down SSG?
And the dreams of some of the other teams here
are progressing forward and ignite.
Yeah, Tones could do it, man.
He could shut the door.
Necorize doesn't have ult yet,
or Necorize has to go big with the media rem
in this upcoming fight.
Yeah, the media rem, Eek could be huge here.
Oh, Silent Blade, that's another huge pick.
Well done there, as you can go down, and there's the E.
Oh, it does seem to land, but the idea was to try to use
that meteor to counter it.
Doesn't seem to work out, and that's an alt for an alt
that neither of which could value.
Points back in the favor of Lunex.
The boundary comes out for silence.
Blaze, there's no answer.
Logan and the Necrox, they can do this right now, folks!
A meter left here!
Try to stall for as long as possible.
Silent Blaze able to find Necro,
Redis finds one on a dune,
and this might be it, folks!
Flurr tries to hold, get pulls off,
Poyr gets pulled off, but excuse me,
and it looks like it does happen!
Lunex does the impossible bounce back and take over this W2 to zero
Are you kid two MRC teams are now qualified to group B dude if that's crazy
Oh my goodness what a what a job by this squad and the band phase through how they played their opponents to such high levels
Huge shout out to them
Unfortunate for the side of of nightmare obviously, but for Lunex to get it done versus SSG who have been doing well recently
in that fashion is truly impressive across the board.
You have to give huge shout-outs to, like you mentioned with Tonya's,
and Reedus Deflex to over the Wolverine and stuff,
the draft as well with the Invisible Woman to maybe like counter anything they could do with Wolverine.
Excellent job from Team Lunex to 2-0.
I said it was going to be 2-0, but I thought it was not going to be 2-0 for Lunex.
That's for sure.
Shout-out Silent Blaze on the sticks, too, as a strategist in the back line.
Clean MVP there.
I'm going to say the quote of...
Of course you would say that after I just angered the hive of the controller player.
Well he said Vanguard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
True, true, I totally get it.
Just, I'm with you, I'm with you.
Controller strategists, let's go.
But if you're controller Vanguard, hell no.
Oh, jeez. But yeah, either way, man.
I'll tell you what, this team, Lunax, they look, they look refreshed.
They look good.
They feel confident on that Gambit comp.
Shout out Logan too on that Gambit.
I think it's very difficult to go Gambit v. Gambit.
I think a lot of it's on your shoulders.
the game. We've got a lot of
players fighting to get to
the finals. We've got a lot
of players finding six finals
seven there for silent 11 for
Reedus at 11 for tones who's
not afraid to switch things up.
We saw some very different
vanguards pulling out the
group at the end there and
not needing to change at all.
Shout out to the group man's
I personally love to see it.
Well, well, well, we have our
eight teams that are going to
be progressing into playoffs
and they are not
necessarily the teams that
we thought would be there.
to be a part of the game.
We're going to have to look
out. Lunex Gaming will be the
spoiler of their party, and
they're going to be progressing
in what was an emphatic fashion
really to do it against
Space Station, who have looked
so good thus far in preseason.
It doesn't hurt Space Station
too much. They're still going
to finish second in this
group, but certainly Lunex
are going to be on cloud nine
right now. The fact that
they've just been able to
pull that off. And as you said,
the game. You know, it's
going to be a two home could
compete in M R C and maybe
could be playing in Marvel
Rivals ignite yourself. The
structure and infrastructure.
Excuse me. We have in Marvel
Rivals is absolutely insane,
and that's why we get these
amazing stories of basically
zero to hero. Quite literally
dog man. You thought maybe
it was going to be a two one.
Maybe it would be a two nil
in favor of space station.
What won that for Lunax? You
whole game realistically. It's got to be that right. I feel like map one. First of all, the
fact that they were able to get that unmatched is crazy. And like maybe they could have played
it like you said with that, like Jim mentioned with with blur going over to it. But game number
two playing the group, they figured it out. I think it looked a little bit questionable
at points with their Vanguard line, but they did get there. They played the group and
they played the mag towards the very end and it panned out. So really that's it
at the end of the day. And I mean, maybe I want to see some change ups out of their
their vanguards a little bit.
Maybe we could play something else.
Maybe we put the roller player on the group,
but it looks like now a lot of roller players
play the group to super high level.
So this is very interesting, I think, moving forward.
That, to me, is the most standout thing,
is the fact that Rogue has been so dominant this weekend.
And she obviously, we talk about Nightmare not making it
because of this result.
But I don't want to overlook the fact
that TSM also didn't make it out of this group.
I mean, they are two teams who potentially,
teams expected, people expected them to progress.
they've been outshined by these MRC rosters that are just coming in. They are hungry. They are
practiced. They are putting in the work. I mean, do you think that we are going to be seeing team
changes already? Do you think that's going to be on the horizon? I mean, I'm sure going into
main season people want to try and stick with it. But once we get to that possibility of team
changes, surely a couple of these MRC guys are going to have eyes on them.
Yeah, absolutely. I think you're dead on the money there. I think that's definitely
potential, but I think it also just speaks to the talent at least in this
bracket. I mean, across the board, the amount of times that we've seen underdogs
win over those last two weeks is blown my mind. I don't think I mean, that's why
brackets are just in shambles right now. Nobody's nobody's nailing it at all
because it's just any given day. Any team could show up every time we predict
something. We're probably wrong, but that's the beauty of this level of
Marvel rivals right now. There's just so much talent and teams are still
kind of figuring each other out. They all figured each other out and
the next week. The next day
when the meta shift suddenly
you have to learn everything
all over again. And again is
the beauty of Marvel rivals
ignite for me. Expect the
unexpected here in all of the
games we've had so far. It
really has been a preseason of
just surprises, especially
here in America's dog. I mean,
as this is the conclusion of
the preseason group stages,
what's been some of your
favorite memories thus far
over the last couple of weeks?
I mean, I wasn't here for
I mean, I wasn't here for it, but it really was.
I think you brought up TSM, and I hate to double down
and kick a team all the way down.
But realistically, that five minute
spawn hold on Central Park was just crazy to me.
Like, I have never seen that in my time watching this game.
And I guess it's almost been two years now or something.
Like, it's been forever.
I'm old as hell now.
But that was insane.
Like, I feel like TSM getting spawn held by Yaway
Lost was truly something memorable.
and we might see more of that later on but five minutes on camping
that he's as uh...
and maybe a maybe a safer way to put this is belt
the booty
and we go we've learned from a belt to bottom as well i want to get started
the other people in the state that they said that would be
and maybe not
shampire
she's she's about you
what's your favorite moments from these last couple weeks in preseason
group stages
all it's tricky man i feel like every day when these games get a map three
and get to OT, I could shout out the hype of that moment.
There's multiple times where my voice is cracked,
like I was 16 all over again,
just because of how hyped I've been from these matchups.
And I mean, when we're watching these games,
and if you just looked, you know,
if the audience had a look at our camera as well,
we were shout-casting these games,
we are, notice the screen, just Anthony,
that's just been happening so much in this tournament.
I literally can't pinpoint a specific game
because even today we got to see it with NRG,
that match was crazy back and forth.
And I was up on the screen with said,
I can list every day and find
a new team in a new matchup.
And as we bring this back to
Lounex and their victory here dog
looking at the bracket ahead and
we will be able to look at it
when that's ready. But I believe
Lounex will play swamp gaming
with the first matchup in
winners bracket and they know
each other well through MRC. I
would assume. But do you think
that like it's the sky the
I hope the social media team is not watching because I mean realistically for Lunex, this
is a huge win.
Like for sure, like you mentioned, two-oh-ing a partner team and making it a playoff.
We had talked about cap arrows, almost doing it by the way, so that's insane that they
could do that.
But I think it's as you mentioned, Gask, like the tough part is that Lunex will
be going at Swampcoming first, which was, you know, a former MRC champion when they
were under Nemesis before.
Like I feel like they just struggle versus these ex-MRI champion teams.
the last couple of years. We
had a lot of players that
were like, Yeah, we lost
almost like former nemesis
versus MRI teams, so it's a
really tough matchup. But
after swamp gaming, I wouldn't
be surprised if this team does
a lower bracket run considering
how good they have looked, and
they could definitely make a
run at the right moment. And
we mentioned it a little bit
earlier as well. She had the
fact that we move now to
best of fives. I think it
does change everything when
you know, I'm a statsman.
the game is going to change.
We're going to be looking at
the game as an integral part of
our discussion. In fact, they
will feature multiple times now.
I think does change this
dynamic. Do you think that prep
completely changes for teams
now going into best of five?
They would have been looking at
far different things and
statistics when it was best
of three. Yeah, I mean prep
wise. I'm not sure, but you
know, maybe, but I'll tell
you what the game is
absolutely going to change. I
think we really start to see
We're going to start distinguishing who are the best teams because when you get into those matchups teams really start to figure out each other's weaknesses
And that's where they start exploiting in best of threes is tricky, especially after Dom and one where it can kind of go either way
It's typically more 50-50 in Dom. We're going to see where those lines are drawn and where teams are in the upper echelon
And dog I know I said that this doesn't hurt space station gaming because they already were in second place
But thinking about it further, does it hurt their ego a little bit moving into playoffs knowing that they've just lost this match up against Lunax?
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, they have some pretty glaring holes to fill. Like realistically, what are they going to play now if we let Rogue through or we bane it?
We could play it ourselves, but how we match it on that Vanguard line. And I think what we've noticed so far at the tournament is these Vanguard players and especially the Vanguard heroes right now are just so strong.
just so strong. I feel like the limelight has been talking about
strategists, but we just like failed to mention how most of these games, if
certain heroes are through, we're seeing triple Vanguard lines, like we're
seeing so much, even on domination, we're seeing the rogue, Van Pool and
stuff. Like I just can't believe how many Vanguard players in social
media will complain about heroes being weak when, realistically, I mean,
Vanguard's never been stronger.
Vanguard, I mean, I see it just in my simple ranked games, right? I see
Is there something that we're missing or do you reckon that we might be we might be down to the team now?
Yeah, I think we're starting to see shifts and I'm sorry
I think we're starting to see things not succeed as much as we all expected for like for example Jeff
I think he's been struggling a little bit in terms of ultimate. I think teams are starting to download kind of how to counter Jeff
I think Jeff's been in a really good spot and does a great get neutral
So instinctively feels like a good hero, but haven't seen a ton of influence in this tournament so far
So yeah, I think we're gonna keep seeing shifts and the beauty of Marvel Rivals
not just to like over talk about it is the amount of patching the amount of new
heroes coming into the game every month that kind of stuff forces these teams
to be able to be flexible you need to be able to react and become strong and
learn new meddas on a whim and I think the teams that learn that as quickly
will succeed in this scene and we're seeing that already and again the
meddas keep developing so the teams that are staying on top will keep
succeeding. I wonder if it's a bit of a lesson learn situation especially with
it being preseason that's the beauty for even those teams that were unable
to qualify for playoffs.
It's preseason at the end of the day.
It's a fantastic chance to experiment and to learn.
But, Doug, do you think that for those teams
who were slow to adapt to the meta
as we got thrown into preseason,
we'll be looking at now going into main phase
saying, all right, as soon as new season drops,
as soon as new patch drops, we need to be on it,
we need to be studying,
and we need to be the ones innovating
rather than chasing?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's about being on the money.
It's about being smart and fast to adapt.
And it can be hard, I think,
if you don't have the right people talking, right?
Like, I feel like, you know,
there's always the case of too many cooks in the kitchen,
but it's also, you don't want to leave all of the agency
into somebody that has no idea what the hell they're doing.
You know, there's a lot of very smart players
in the proceed, very highly mechanically skilled players,
but also sometimes you can get baited, right?
Especially if you do well in practice,
like we saw it at Nightmare, right?
Like the fact that Nightmare are now eliminated
is just crazy due to the fact
that like they were apparently dominating scrims.
Like they were doing well enough
to be a top two team in their group.
And maybe we could talk about that.
Maybe that's, maybe they got baited about, you know,
they were doing so well weeks before
and then they're slow to adapt because of it.
Oh, this week we just lost our scrim blocks
because I don't know.
Like we could be a little bit iffy on it,
but I mean that's happened to me at points
where like there's a new character
that gets introduced, the new character gets buffed
and you're slow to adapt because your team
was doing well the week before.
So it's tough because of the timing, obviously,
but it is very easy to get baited,
especially in this current scene
where I think we get patches
pretty frequently before tournaments
because this game is obviously a very casual game
just for everybody enjoying the game, obviously,
just to play whatever they want.
It's, I don't think we're really consider too much
when it comes to these patches.
Maybe in the future that happens later on,
but the fact that a patch happened a couple days,
like a couple of weeks before a tournament was crazy
and it might happen again
and you have to be, like you said, gas ready.
have to be ready when the four
teams who technically weren't
ready or the four teams who got
eliminated Cafe Rose, Fly
Quest, Nightmare and TSM ship.
Who was the biggest surprise for
you that didn't make it through
to playoffs though because we
spoke about fly quest and the
expectations and predictions.
But of course they went through a
lot of changes Cafe Rose. I
don't think we could be too
hard on with the fact that
they came through from MRC
nightmare and TSM though.
Maybe some expectations there.
Who was the biggest? I don't
want to say disappointment, but
who was the biggest surprise
it through for you? Yeah.
So we did the predictions
and we were talking about it for a while
and I predicted because TSM is so good
at hitscan that as their team is just super good at that.
And this men is very divey.
So I kind of assume that nightmare I would say
I thought they'd be more of a dive team.
This would fit them more.
I think, you know, they've seen a lot of success.
So my, my, my statement is I think nightmare
is the more surprising team for me,
leaving themself in a position where they needed
to have another team win in order to move forward
is obviously not what I expected.
But, you know, again, I think that's the beauty
of this is that if another meta comes and it's in its poke, I don't think this shakes
out the same way at all. I think this is a totally different bottom line team. So that's
the weird and cool thing about rivals right now. That is the thing. Sometimes you just
have to roll with the punches. And if it's not your method, it's not your matter. You
come back stronger. You just got to stay at least in the competition when it gets
to promotion relegation scenario with the MRC teams. And then as long as you can
have another stab at it when the meta changes, you might be the team that is
leading the charge and you might be the one who finally when the championship
you know, you get to the
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matches live as well. I know
I'm going to be looking at all
of the stats from preseason in
group stages as I prep for
playoffs and speaking of players,
dog. If you had to name one from
group stages, we stood out to
you as the absolute shine
above everyone in the scene.
Who would you go for? Oh, I
mean, uh, I think it's
Who would you go for?
Oh, I mean, dude, it's a tough, it's so hard to sort of come back to, but it could definitely
be maybe like Cooper or like Euro or something on the side of Liquid Citadel, some of the
Vanguard's have been really good too, but yeah, probably some of those too.
Sorry, but I was like turning purple and stuff because it was open in the in-game
tab to look at my productions and how terrible they went in comparison.
So yeah, I think it's got to be for me, probably Nero so far.
Sheba, what about for you?
Yeah, I'll go with just based on the raw aura alone of not
being able to play your hero a single time, Polly.
I think forcing it is one of the few people in the game
right now that you have to ban his hero or you lose the game.
At least that's what's happened so far.
And that's a lot of power.
I don't think a lot of people can say that right now
in these band phases.
I don't think there's virtually anyone else that
has that kind of power right now.
And he's still succeeding with the more traditional
I think she's been excellent on strategist and especially on white fox and gambit. So yeah, that's been one of my favorite players to watch but as I was mentioning before I was rudely interrupted by my incredible
I'm not answering. No, yeah. I'll
say. Valentina. You know,
Valentina has been my surprise
player. I think she's been
excellent on strategist stand,
especially on White Fox and
Gambit. So yeah, that's been
one of my favorite players to
watch. But as I was mentioning,
before I was rudely
interrupted by my incredible
co-comitator, these are
today's results, guys. If you
didn't manage to catch them,
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ones. I implore you to go
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the team. They're going to be
the first players to play in
the team. In client. You can
watch the Vods as well. Night
matter took down TSM to Oh, to
give themselves the chance of
trying to qualify and they had
to wait for later on to see
Lunax beat to over SSG, which
sadly meant nightmare wouldn't
go through. See our be 100
thieves to one and gave
themselves the chance to
potentially go through. But
sadly, their hopes were
crushed when energy took
down send to one and they
run to nil against. Yeah, we lost dog was your favorite match of
today. None of them. I hit them all because because I'm about to
get less than 20% accurate team. I predictions I just looked it
up. All I got right was team liquid and yeah, we lost getting
their spots. So it's brutal. No, I think it's a really
answer your question. I mean, I think that it came down to
the Sentinels energy match that was a banger. Obviously
nightmare and TSM were also sick. So we had a lot of
really fun matches. And I can't wait for ship to brag about how he actually predicted correctly
and it's going to get all of the units and all of this grace. Well, yeah,
Heather is how it has ended up. These are the four teams that will be qualifying from
group a SG NRG 100 thieves and send in that order as well. Sadly, with Cafe Rose being
eliminated on tiebreaker fly quest, not able to get past that one victory as well.
That's how Group A is looking. As we look over to Group B, though, of course, we saw another
undefeated team, Liquid Citadel, were able to stay on top, SSG took second, yet we lost,
finished in third place. Lunex grabbed that fourth and final spot to qualify from Group B,
and then we saw Nightmare and TSM eliminated. I actually think Group B was my closest in
terms of prediction ship. How about you? Yeah, I think I was pretty much on. I think I missed
one for that side. I got pretty lucky there. Group A was a bit of a mess, but you know,
I was pretty close. I think that in terms of teams eliminated, I got that correct. Just
the rest was a little bit mixed up, but I did a few of them, as I'm sure a lot of people did,
but it's just like anything, any of these brackets. It's all just about who shows up.
It's all incredibly lucky, and that's why March Men is brackets, making it trillion dollars
if you land it. Well, speaking of brackets, of course, we know that that was the group
stages but now we move on to the playoffs and that means we've got to find out who is playing who.
We've got SG vs. Lunex, SSG vs. 100 Thieves, NRG vs. Yeah, we lost and TLC vs. Sen. I mean these are
some mouthwatering matchups. Doc, what's your first initial reaction seeing that?
Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, SHIB seems pumped for it as well. Like dude, this is going to be a
I mean, first of all, who knows how
Lunex will do versus SG, SSG 100 Thieves.
We have the potential for a mean
matchup of SSG versus SG.
That's always going to be fun and then
NRG has a really fun matchup
versus how we lost. Everybody wants
to see that, right? That team
is definitely eyes on
for all of our fans. Well, make sure you have
eyes on April 16th because
that's when we'll be back for playoffs
when SG will be playing Lunex. When
SSG will be playing 100 Thieves and you
you're going to be able to
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It's going to be a week for
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but now we've got to start
thinking about playoffs dog.
Shib it has been an absolute pleasure
to have you both here. I'll give you a chance
to take the floor and tell us how you
feel about group stages and what you're
looking forward to for playoffs.
Dog list. I think it is throwing on me
first. Yeah, I'm excited.
It's awesome. The precinct has been awesome.
You've been awesome. Gas like you've been
awesome as hosting it. And obviously
coming in this week, it's been awesome
you and obviously Shib here for, you know, bringing his good luck charms that
these matches because everybody that's watching you guys have seen it.
We got some angers today and it's only getting started.
Dude, it was only the group stages.
Shib, what about what about I'm stoked to be back with you, buddy.
It was a pleasure and guessing you've been an absolute champion out here
coming in on your first week.
What an absolute stud.
Not much else they need to say besides these games were so much fun.
I cannot wait for this to start back up again.
Well, he can't wait.
You shouldn't want to wait too much.
the next time. We'll see
the as we said, April 16th
is when we will be back for
playoffs. You are not going to
want to miss it. I said it's a
week. It's about a week and a
half. Be there or B Square
because we have the best teams
in Marvel Rivals ignite all
competing against one another.
Thank you so much for joining
us here today for joining us
for all of the group stages.
A big thank you, of course,
to my co commentators both
here and the ones who have
been on previous days to all
the production team to
everyone behind the scenes and
I