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Yeah, the 48 hour VOD got kicked off.
There's some issues with the, the restream as well.
Yeah, we're back though.
I think, I think we might be done.
I think the Raiders are, are heading off.
They took it as a sign.
Beloran DDoS them, I think actually is what,
is what really happened.
Yeah, I just read this long thing
and was talking about the buffs
and it seems like we were offline the whole time.
So, oh, okay, well, that's fine.
It works out.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, they're heading off.
Like I said, they were actually already like,
almost an hour actually, past their time.
They're having too much fun, pulling Mythic.
Finally, a hard Mythic boss.
They've got their-
Actually, that's a real story by the way.
Yeah, they had some time to sink their teeth into it.
They were having a great time.
So they extended it a little bit,
but they're off to bed now.
They don't wanna mess up their sleep schedule.
Because like we were saying, you're up and,
They started at 6 AM this morning.
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I found out on method cast that I should be eating ranch.
Well I just feel like if you travel to America you need to like you know it's one of our
delicacies, you know, it goes with everything. Just make sure you put it, keep it in the fridge.
It needs to be cold. It needs to be cold. Like, part of the enjoyment.
I keep everything in the fridge. I think it's also about Balkan mentality, you know, like,
with somehow everything ends up in the fridge for us.
That's good. That's good. Because I don't think we could, like, I don't like ketchup,
but there are some people who like room temperature catch up and those folks are unwell.
Unwell. I 100% agree. I think it's very important that you brought it up today,
like we need to spread awareness that keeping catch up outside of the fridge is like really not
cool. Like guys, come on. Get out. Like I see that. I've seen that happening at like my workplace.
I actually people keep catch up on the table and I'm like this is illegal. Yeah, you should not be doing that like
Why would you keep catch up at room temperature like chat? Please tell me you're not one of those
None of those you guys none of those
We are we're an over 30 community. We need we need to be taking the responsible approach and chill
our catch up
Vinegar prevents bacteria from growing.
I mean, like mustard is vinegar based
and it's also told to be put in the fridge.
And the actually hot sauce in America is mostly vinegar based
but most of them have to be refrigerated
because apparently there's like a skull-valled balance
with the vinegar.
Like just being vinegar based doesn't mean it's shelf-stakeable.
But you know, it's your body.
You can eat what you want, you know?
I'm not going to stop you you're you're you guys are adults you guys are great
Get down with your bad self. I don't put my butter in the fridge. Isn't that essentially just buttermilk then?
Yeah, what if it's like hot hot I guess it's like easier to spread like you get a better like
Toasty to butter ratio if it's not cold
Maybe
But I'm not gonna, like, I don't know how much toast you enjoy, but it would make sense,
I guess.
Hey, did you ask me how many toasts I enjoy?
What?
Toast.
Like bread that's like been like, bread that's like, you know, heated up a little bit.
What do you call bread that's been like heated up a little bit?
No, toast.
Yeah, I get it.
I understand toast.
I'm like toast.
feet or what like oh yeah let's yeah I'm still talking about food bread actually
all good glad we glad we managed to play that up before I started answering
You know?
Yeah
So you like toast?
Toast, yeah, I love toast
That like I I also make a very good toast. I
We we lost
All right, uh, yeah, that was uh kind of happens always with us in
in those morning shifts. I don't know if it's just a lack of sleep combination plus like, you know, the time difference. I don't know.
But, but yeah, but okay, but okay, like, so how do you make your toast? Like, what is that? What is the best way to make a toast?
Oh, the well, we have toasters and I recently learned that
toasters have are like a scale from like one to five.
And I just thought they were like toast, like a toasty factor, like one,
I like a one out of five, like toasty factor.
And I was like, oh, I like, I like a solid like two and a half toasty factor.
So I like it a little like I like a little charred, you know,
I like to pretend like I'm eating it by a campfire.
But I just recently learned that toasters like that one to five
is not just like a random scale.
It's it's how many minutes.
Apparently, it's like how many minutes do you want this thing to cook?
And you're like, oh, two minutes, three minutes.
I thought it was just like a toasty scale.
I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking.
But to be fair, it does like kind of translate into the toasty skill right because the longer it's there the more toasty
It's gonna be it's gonna be
Okay, I would have also not guessed that it's actually just time-based yet
I would also assume exactly what you said like well. Yeah, I just like some level of toastiness, you know like yeah
Okay, good to know I have a toaster I use it quite often as well like
But I also, I'm also, I just like it when it has like a bit of this burnt side, you know.
Yeah, just like the little, little crust, like the little shimmer, yeah, I like, I like a little
breakfast too. It's really good.
All right.
What about you Chad? Do you guys like, do you got like a little chard on your toasties?
You guys are all at breakfast time, but I feel like breakfast is one of the super foods where you can eat it at any time
Like I know for me, it's ten o'clock at night ten o'clock
Breakfast delicious absolutely nighttime cereal
Yeah, I could eat the omelettes and stuff like that any time of the day that's like
One my favorite food I make a really good Greek omelette by the way like I just want to point that out like
Do you do like omelettes?
Yeah, I mean yes, like foldy eggs with like goods inside, absolutely.
Absolutely.
What's your favorite, like do you mix it up or you just fold the eggs?
Like you just, is it a plain omelette with just eggs and I guess like butter or whatever you use?
Or do you add stuff to it?
Yeah, well I had feta cheese to it so basically like on top of it a lot of feta, some tomatoes, spices, and then you kind of flip it, you know, and it's like a calzone pizza at the end and...
Oh, yeah. Yeah, the feta cheese gives it kind of like a tart.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and it's really like when you heat it like really
I don't know just like expands like it just like I feel like it fills
the space unlike other cheese, which is more like I
Don't know you can kind of get like pockets of cheesiness where it's like that I just like like evenly coats everything
It's just a nice balance
Finish I feel like that's super cool. Ooh chat saying how much they love jalapeno omelettes
That sounds a bit too crazy for the morning, you know, like go all in on spice, spiceiness
right in the morning.
That's a bit wild to me, you know, but like, obviously everybody has different flavor.
For the one thing, the one thing, and I know you're probably gonna like, like hate me because
that's, that is a very American thing is like, what I cannot absolutely cannot process is
Pancakes for breakfast
Pancakes you don't like pancakes for breakfast. You don't want dessert for breakfast
No, like I think pancakes for breakfast are like very illegal. Yeah, and I know Americans love that
You know, I'm like nah, I just can't that just not not on the menu for me
Yeah, it is it is I think pancakes are better like dessert and just like pee I think PB's and J's like peanut butter and jelly
sandwiches or desserts like there's just things that American eats all the time but I would
classify that as like dessert same with like french toast which is like amazing waffles
also amazing thank you chat and I would I would not eat them alone because it's basically
like eating a cake for breakfast and I feel like that would just like throw off my entire
day like totally wrecked my stomach for like the entire day I could eat a bunch of jalapenos
and be fine but if I ate like a like a pile of pancakes I would be unwell you know what I mean
yeah like I don't know I want to one time I tried like pancakes with eggs and that was
demonic that was actually one of the worst practices I've had in my life like okay what kind of eggs
What kind of eggs? What style? Did you put an omelet on top of pancakes? Because that's weird.
No, I think it was like scrambled eggs, you know, in between the pancakes and that was just not it.
But that was actually in Spain. I didn't eat that in the USA. That was in Spain.
Which was because I read eggs, you know, I was like translating what it says on the card and it just said eggs
I'm like, okay eggs. I can go I can go behind eggs and then I just received pancakes and I thought I got something wrong
But then I saw the eggs in between. I'm like
hmm
all right
And I wasn't I wasn't happy
It was not it. It wasn't the move
map
That's such a bummer
And giving a sad breakfast. This is a sad story. I don't like hearing about sad breakfast.
I am a sunny side up egg and joyer on pancakes. That's how I would do it.
It sounded good until you mentioned pancakes, but sunny side is definitely the way to go.
Oh, sunny side with like everything see everything bagel seasoning.
with like an avocado because I'm Californian and that's what I love it's it's like amazing
I generally feel like avocados are kind of overrated like sushi it's like I don't know
like it doesn't taste so strong you'd like it just tastes like air kind of yeah that's
That's fair, that's fair.
But that's why you need the everything bagel seasoning.
So if you like onion, garlic,
and the like everything bagel flavor,
but without like the bread and the carbs,
you can basically transfer that flavor onto anything.
And like hard boiled eggs are really good.
With the everything bagel, of course,
like I like the sunny side up,
and then you can also eat the sunny side egg up
and like sushi wraps, I don't know if you said sushi,
It sounds like you're not a big fan of sushi
Like I'm a big sushi meter like I find it like so
So overrated, you know. Oh
my god
she's oh
My god, someone's roasting me right now
Bunton loves sushi sushi so much she'll drive to California for it
Which is like six hours away because she doesn't want to trace sushi in her landlocked state
Dude, I just I've been living on the coast my entire life, which is like almost 40 years
And then I just moved to a landlocked state and I was I love fish and I'm not eating fish in Arizona. It's weird
So yeah, you guys this masquerade's got a right
We got to stand up for something in this life and that's right. That's the molehill. I'm gonna
but I mean I'm pretty sure we made a lot of people hungry at least from our
morning breakfast box so I hope you know I hope they have like some good food
available I know that I will be making something good after our shift but for
now we are just gonna be enjoying our time here watching some heroic splits
until we get to see something newer like you know March of Keldonass splits and
potentially like Mythic later into the day but that that pleasure is going to be left for some
other casters. Hope you guys are having fun so far. Always nice to see that there's so many
people like in the chat at this time obviously a lot of NA fans as well probably here who are like
like you know time is not it's not that late still for you guys and EU obviously
like a lot of people who are at work just like sneaking a look on the second
monitor just listening as a background noise so guys enjoy for now we are for
sure as usual and we are on dragons now in heroic we see a couple of people that
They did not really soak the gloom here. This actually looks full demon right now
Boss you probably died still but this looks very demon right now
Yeah, half of the room is covered with an unsuked gloom. It's just like that full areas and I'll that rate is rather
Healthy still they're running around one boss just went into the air
the
position
The they have to go into
Yeah
Okay, they're in intermission which is which is centered in the middle of the room the only safe spaces in the middle room
But it is also where the gloom or exploded so they're in this like deathly pool purple pool of
Just chaos and they're trying to just heal themselves through and they're trying to defeat the ad get out of intermission
the bosses are sub 20% now. We have a little bit of a delta between the two bosses. They got
to hurry up and get Valgor down just a bit. Valgor is a 17, and of course I can't see the other
dragon. It's at 7%. So we want to make sure that they're within 10% of each other, but it does look
like the bosses are going to win this particular round. Just got a little out of control there.
While we're still on this POV, I just have to say how well-dressed Worst is actually.
Like he's dressed like he's going to a job interview right now, you know, like like doing
an online interview for a job and then like actually...
Yeah, yeah, he's got a really nice like white crisp color shirt under a sweater.
Oh, he's laughing.
Is he watching us?
He looks good.
He looks nice.
He looks focused.
He looks like he had a healthy breakfast and he's drinking his iced coffee out of prop.
Looks like a crystal glass.
Yeah, it looks good.
He's very nice.
Oh, he's weak.
Is he?
Yeah.
Is he winking at you?
Yeah, I have a feeling he knows that we're watching you right now.
Very, very nice.
Well, keep up the good work.
We love the, we love the DKPV.
professionalism I mean he's got that real-life transmog it's it's look good
play good he showed up today ready to ready to bring his best he's bringing
his best tune his best fit love that
all right well yeah I think he was saying fine I think he was listening a
bit but yeah definitely like a nice IRL transmog going on here and yeah we back
Back to this boss, as you mentioned, that was a very, very messy pull.
A lot of things go wrong there, but it is a heroic boss.
We do not really care.
I assume that the raiders themselves have a bit of fun when they wipe.
It will only take you an extra minute or so, so it's not anything to feel bad about, and
you will experience those wipes throughout the day anyway, it is just part of the game.
we will be pulling very soon again.
And one thing I like about this season so far, at least, is that the
victories are quite fast.
It doesn't, the instances do not have that much trash and they're quite like,
you know, even the bosses do not last as long.
So the heroic crate goes like for, for an hour now, pretty sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's actually pretty nicely figured out a way to just target, um, the most
ideal routes in these raids so that they're not pulling extensive trash. Obviously, they
are pulling more trash than they would need to because they're trying to prioritize the
BOEs that drop from certain trash mobs. But it sounds, it feels like whenever we watch
them do trash in these heroic splits that they, they never stop. They're just speed running
the entire place. So you'll see like low mobs, lonely mobs like running down a hallway covered
in dots and just eventually fall over. So it's good moves. It's a good move.
All right, you started again. But go for it.
Cat is like a curicrafting coffee. I'm lost right now. I'm not a coffee drinker. So like
that's not my field of expertise. Oh yeah well we were we were talking about how Wurst was drinking
out of like a short glass. A whiskey glass. Yeah and they were talking about a whiskey glass and
then they said well just drink directly out the coffee pot and of course coffee drinkers
will do anything to get coffee into their their system nothing short than an IV.
so talking about the types of cups and how they they get larger and larger
throughout the throughout the day I love that I'm the same way I get a very very
large coffee every day totally addicted that that has to be Red Bull for me like
Red Bull is my coffee oh nice nice we did get stucked up with Holy so that's been
really a really nice surprise for my body it's very like a clean like it's a
clean crisp bump instead of the normal coffee jitters so it's been a it's been
really it's been a good change I could see I could see myself if getting like
shifting from like coffee or those like harder energy drinks can be can be tough
but thankfully it's like you're getting the with holy it like you're getting what
you need to focus and get that energy that you need without compromising the health side
of it.
Oh yeah, like, holy was the only thing actually that I was able to have in the morning because
usually I'm like, I don't start with anything energy based until the lunch.
So I always need something something in my stomach, but like the holy was the only thing
that I actually managed to drink in the morning when I'm going to work like instead of water.
So definitely a good shout out to them,
holy energy guys, you need to try it.
Heck yeah.
This pull is doing much better.
It looks like the bosses are within 2% of each other.
So obviously this is doing much, much better.
The soaks are under control.
We're not squished up against the right side of the screen
here this time.
So it's looking a little bit more manageable.
And they have a ton of DK's, so they're doing just fine.
These ads will get sorted in no time.
I really do wonder what happened last pull.
How did they end up in that situation?
Because that was a very unique situation for a heroin cost.
Yeah.
It's like a mental,
it's just a mental gap or something.
Is that a devourer's at the top of the damage meter?
Oh, now I see it.
Well, it was at the top.
Yeah, that is currently a devastation, a voker,
followed by deep shades on Destro and then Cush on his devourer.
And Shadow Priest, guys, Shadow Priest got buffed today, by the way.
Today, it was the last night for NA, obviously.
But yeah, there was some Shadow Priest changes, buffs mainly,
And we can see the Shadow Priest here is already on top five, which is something that we could potentially see as well on Mythic Bosses, like later on on progress, right?
Like now Shadow Priest is starting to look very, very solid, like it does bring you like an extra PI as well.
And overall, like, you know, they are very, so to say, hybrid, right?
They can adapt to any kind of fights they like.
single-target like multi-dots they liked, saw many recent areas so I think you know
having one Shadow Priest is generally suggested. We're gonna see if we might
actually you know end up seeing more because we don't know how big the bus
ended up being but yeah interesting to see that like Blizzard took this approach
because they you know they got nerfed like just before the tier released and
they got buffed twice so definitely like the Blizzard is looking into them and
being like, yeah, we like shadow priests, you know.
Yeah, shadow priests, I'm pretty excited that they were able to
be memorialized in this fight. I didn't I'm trying to look
through my notes. I didn't make a note about shadow priests.
One second here. I did. I do I do think do you think that
there's a position where raids will bring in more than one
shadow priests? That was kind of my original thought because
there's nothing necessarily wrong with other DPS. It's just
that you know there's like hunters are doing really well.
Majors, you know, warlocks are doing really well
and of course they brought the spells in Vanguard earlier.
But like the priests, they bring a next year of PI.
So you're actually amplifying an already like powerful DPS
if you do happen to bring another shadow priest.
And if we needed to do the spells,
like that would be a piece of it too.
And I was just like, the thing that's interesting about this regroup is I think I saw that there were there two mages.
I think this is the first time you've seen more than one mage.
Like usually it's just just one in there.
Like it's the comps for range have been very limited because there's been, you know, a little like restrictive, restrictive like with Vanguard and some of these others.
I just feel like we've been only prioritizing like warlocks because of the two-pride cleave shadow priests because they just got buffed
And of course like mages are doing unhinged amount of damage and then everything else has to be like utility you know utility focus
So I'm excited for for more. I would like to see more shadow priests
It's been a it's been a minute since we've had shadow priests plus say they bring PI. That's my that's my long story
Yeah, I'm not really sure how good the damage profile is for the upcoming two bosses, but
there is definitely potential. I guess we will have to see like at the end of the day,
they do seem to be more on the single target side, so they do kind of value a bit more
of a single target approach, which Shadow Priest ironically likes now, you know, like,
you know, if you tell somebody who just woke up from a coma that single target fight and shadow
freeze, that usually would be like, wait, what? What just happened? You know, like, because they
used to be known for only like multi-dots scenarios and stuff like that. But kind of the same with
Affliction Warlock, you know, they used to be all too strong in those type of scenarios in the past,
the Blizzard just kept nerfing it. And now they ended up making them like, you know, strong single
target and some decent cleave and multidot so I was like yesterday when you think about
it like when we did console we had a shadow priest who is also like a really really good
shadow priest and he was still like bottom of the meters and you know tell this to somebody
like I don't know five years ago that shadow priest is gonna be bottom on the meters on
a fight where you have consistently three targets yeah that is just like very wild it's something
that you would definitely not expect but it is what it is some suddenly hunters are your multi
target experts somehow you know like so yeah that's yeah I I would have never guessed especially
when I think of the multi-target and the Klee use that shadow priests were able to provide and
they're like aren't they like an execute class so you don't they do more damage like the lower
the health the targets are so you would think like with all this like turnover and ad management and then like obviously the multi
Boss to multi thought it would be it'd be better
Well, I'm hoping to I'm hoping to see hoping to see more
And
Now we are on live line at the vanguard, but on heroic obviously so
So nothing spectacular here, a very easy Heroic boss, actually easier than dragons I would
even say on Heroic, it doesn't do much.
I'm not sure if you're going to see Alaria right after this though, like those are kind
of the main characters, like, well some of them at least, so maybe they're just going
to do, maybe they're just going to do in-host splits for now, we'll see.
So far, so good. At least we're raiding. At least we're not doing keys. That is the main thing.
Yeah, I think that they're ready to be in the raid. Just roll that dice to see if they can get
any buffs, any small adjustment. I think that they're still wanting to get some jewelry off of
area. You know that rare rare piece of loot so we shall see. I don't see in any world where
they would be really excited about tier unless they're trying to like roll for those like tertiary
but they should be having like extra catalysts and of course like they have accessed all these
like wonderful mythic pieces so well when they do mythic clears they're gonna have more chances
for tertiary to catalyst so i don't see the necessary like necessarily like alleria being
exciting unless it's like an incredible jewelry piece for someone in this raid then at that
point then it would be worth it especially if you just go in and one shot it like they're
obviously doing here um easy easy uh few minute boss and hopefully they get some let's get some
some good loot for them.
Covering over, we got the couple of goodies.
Yeah, it's a plate, heavy drop, like it drops a lot of plate loot, so not very contested.
We don't have many plates this year, except for the unholy details, but they also just
get all the loot kinda, so.
Next boss definitely has more value
Yeah, hopefully I mean it would be nice to get jewelry from here, but what I was reading is that for
Laura there's that jewelry drops two sockets
So wouldn't it be like why I just am curious like what's the hold up between
them going and trying to do heroic in March of Kelfinass before doing anything here?
I mean I don't think the curios are super or any like four piece here is is super beneficial but
Like clearly, clearly it's not about getting the perfect comp, like the optimized roster.
It's more about like gearing, it's about gearing out like the, the best like potential roster.
So I feel like that's probably what they're working on still, that they don't know exactly
what they're going to want, but they want to make sure that they have everything available
for the next two bosses if they need it potentially.
Yeah, I would assume that one of the hidden benefits of the Reclis is also just the crest farm, because like you do kind of need that still, you will definitely have some items that you can upgrade with the crest.
We know that the crest system this season has been a bit underwhelming to the point where like your crests are kind of sacred
So the way you spend them means a lot which in my opinion is always a bad design
You should be able to figure out how to spend them without watching through this course and without reading guides
Like literally, okay. I have crest I press a button. That's it, you know
So
Right now, I think that's also part of the the weekly like getting all the crests in and yeah
I don't think they specifically really need much from here, but if it happens to drop, they're going to happily take it.
We were talking about upgrades of probably less than 1%, but that is still a lot for World First Guilds.
They will go for even less. If there is a chance to get an upgrade, they're going to go for it when you're fighting the bosses on this level.
any bit of numbers matter way I do mainly think it is it is like it's in a
form of a crest farm you know making sure you have all your stuff like kind of
done like your chores done for the week in that case and yeah we will see we'll
see what happens after after this but I'm pretty sure you know we we're going
back to another split. Maybe the DreamRift though, I don't know what, see the DreamRift splits are
gonna be interesting, right? Because DreamRift is still like heavily contested because of the
Trinket. We might see some extra shenanigans there. We're probably gonna see a lot of those on
Miptika, I would assume. Like if, I don't know like what the state is of the Trinkets, right?
Maybe they just got super lucky and they're like already decked out, but I would think that they
would want to do more splits on Dream Rift. What do you think?
Absolutely. I would think that they're going in there exclusively at least five times.
Like, I would assume that they're going in there and doing all of the possible splits for
that Trinket. That Trinket, I guess, is really powerful, if not top three for most
specs and in the raid and because all the other ones are obviously the number
one trinkets come from March of 12th and us which nobody really has access to and
that trinket you can flip the charge of it and it'll be I don't really I haven't
I haven't seen it live obviously but it's like you can change it like whatever
its polarization is and if that trinket is the top two so it's like one trinket
with two is two charges take two of the top five
Trinket of the Sims so obviously the dreamer of trinket is good for everybody if not top five
It's definitely worth it. I would say it's minimal
minimal effort for maximum value I
Was thinking um I
Was thinking when you were talking about crests isn't there?
This might be a fever dream and maybe chat nose, but isn't there like a
Chance like when you get all geared up into heroic on
Your character you get like an achievement. I
Don't remember ours is this might be crazy
But when you get an achievement for being getting all into heroic deal gear this tier you get like an
Achievement that gives you a discount on all your future. Oh good. You're not in your head all your future like Crest spends
Like once you out throw all your crests.
Okay, tell me, tell me more about that.
So I am in fact not a big crest expert, it's one of those features that I do not like in
this game, but I do know that like you can potentially get an achievement which then
makes all your alts have free upgrades, something like that.
How exactly does it go?
I don't know, I just know that my players were saying like that it's a thing and that
It was something that was potentially going to be attempted last week for the World's
First Guilds, but they didn't pull it off, I think, because you were still lacking some
crest to do it.
But yeah, how exactly it actually works, I'm not sure, but it could be the fact that
if you have every single item upgraded to a certain point, then basically completely
unlocks it and then you just have three upgrades on your ults.
Or in your mains if you do it on your ults, basically.
Yeah, I think that you said it correctly where it's like whatever character like gets the achievement
It's it's not necessarily an advantage benefit that
Character very much, but for all the other characters on your account. That's going to be
I an amazing relief because like you don't really have to
You're not gonna be have to do the same grind again to get your character up and running. So I
think that that's something that
They could be working towards here.
We see a lot of beefy tunes here, so maybe if they're lucky, we'll be able to see some
of that investment roll out.
Because then that would give this great team the opportunity to just upgrade and move freely
and change like so much more of like a comp like complexity for the last little push of this raid
yeah and uh yeah obviously like stuff like that are part of like the biggest uh
cheery crafting you know gils do need to like know exactly how they want to spend their crest and
that's one of the things where i would like not want to be involved in like i feel like that's
annoying to deal with right like because you can just like go in and like just do
whatever you feel like that is definitely a specific way to spend your
crest in a world first guild you know like they've been they've been telling
them exactly this how much you can upgrade this is what you should upgrade
you also need to wait for your radar to generally say we should be upgrading we
should be crafting stuff like that it's that the min max in that department is
absolutely nuts and I definitely would not want to be involved in stuff like that because like
it's also annoying part for me like whenever I get whispers but my players like oh should I
upgrade should I do I'm like go to somebody else like I want to that's like not something I want
to deal with yeah like it is just like it is just like not as simple not as clear and that is I
don't know like I'm actually surprised the blizzard doesn't see it that's not at least I saw the
the way lost on the were bad so at least that's gone but I'm still amazed that
Lisa doesn't really see that the crest system crest system don't get me wrong
though crest system is a good idea from the start like I always wanted to be
able to upgrade my item and not just hope that I get a better drop it's just
the way you spend them the way you have to think about it the way you have to
deal with the caps and stuff like that I feel like that just like so much extra
effort for
No reason like you could just do this way better somehow
Yeah, I get I understand why there's a cap on the crest during the race for world first and how they're wanting to time gate it but
It also is kind of unfortunate because this is when everyone's playing the game the most and it's
It stinks to not get up that full benefit. I wish there was some sort of like bad luck protection where
or or doing like more things would give you more crust I think they're trying to make open world and raid to give you more
Crest so that it's not so
Limiting here. Did you happen to see what we thought I?
Did not in fact like I was paying attention to the chat question
Which was like do you think a guild that doesn't mean max could ever get world first if they spent more hours reading than other guys
and played good. I mean I would say that like if the China is an example that
that's probably not possible because they do end up rating way more than any
other guild which you can see in their pullcon. To be simple like and you know
keep in mind Dagil already has like high item level they do definitely do
their splits and stuff like that but ultimately no matter how good you are
this game is tuned around numbers numbers that only world first guilds can
produce just because of the items that they have like Blizzard you notice
already you know buffs and nerfs on bosses based on the performance of the
world first race we already saw the last two bosses got changes those changes
were basically made based on the current numbers that they saw in the heroic
week so they know what your rate can output in numbers they know how much
health you have you know stuff like that so ultimately the game is balanced
around that so no matter how good you are you will just not have the numbers to kill the boss
right you might get far but you will just not be able to finish the boss and that is basically the
difference maker absolutely many years ago before I was I guess when I was just like a viewer and
And I was just starting to kind of watch this whole production unfold.
I was like, I was reading a book about Napoleon, like the greatest conqueror, right?
And he was amazing at conquering because he was able to manage his resources.
And the only reason he was defeated is because Fabian basically outsmarted his resource.
he was able to see like, oh, here's your supply chain.
I'm gonna mess with it.
And Fabian never like fought Napoleon.
Napoleon just like exhausted himself.
And that's how it like dawned on me that I'm like,
oh, the race for world first is literally supply chain 101
and resource management.
Like whoever has the most resources,
whether it's people helping you to split,
to buy gold, to buy the gear from the splits,
like time to pre, like do your homework ahead of time,
like who's willing to give you their time
to help think through these like logs.
Like it's all just like huge web of resource management
and networking that just is completely behind the scenes.
Like we have like, you know,
two weeks of exciting product here,
but it really does like the resources
between NA and you are incredibly vast.
Yeah, so that's how I view it.
I don't think that it's a simple,
like you might see the simple formula of people going in there
and dedicating 16 hours a day and just like winning,
but it's like, it is,
this has been like a six month production.
And they also did 16 hours a day when beta was around.
And then they had people doing multiple hours
behind the scenes,
seeing what would be best for this tier.
So, it, you know, it might, it looks simple,
but the formula is much more complex.
And that's where you know they've really mastered
this type of class because people who are really intelligent
or have mastered their field can make these
like very highly complex, like intricate networks
feel very simple because we, you know, as a community,
this is a very community-driven game
and they obviously want to include you.
So I think that's my very long,
my very, very long answer that I believe
supply chain meets resource management 101.
Yeah and you know there's a bit of a talk in regards to split in the chat you know how
splits should not be a thing or whatever. You always have to keep in mind though that the game
you know has evolved throughout the years even the world first guilds like they started out with
just being a simple nerd guild you saw to say you know just like a guild that just wanted to play
more than the others, right? It all started very basic like every other guild out there.
Some players just want to be more hardcore than the others, they just play the game more,
they put more effort into researching and killing the bosses and it kept going up and up, right?
And eventually the way the splits ended up showing, you know, in-game is like,
it is a feature of the game, right? Like you are not breaking any rules by doing it,
it is just in game right and you're just making use of the systems that are in game like that's
how it is and if lizard if lizard wants to have splits gone they have to change their game simple
as that like and as long as the splits are in the game as they are right now they will be used
because any world first guild will not go for some oh yeah we don't do that because they're
boring to watch no they will lose the race if they don't do that and they have to do it it's like this
group pressure kind of you know if I don't do it the other will do it so that's how it that's
how it is and if Blizzard feels like okay we don't like pro guilds doing 20 splits well then
change it right then you have the power to change it like you have the power to remove it from the
the game you have the power to make restrictions or even better make it so you all get stuff
that your mains have and things like that or just simply give them competitive realms.
But as long as it's officially in the game, as long as it's possible to be done the way
it's being done right now, it is going to be a part of every progression and it's also,
it's not even just the world first, you have all the way to top 500 where girls are still
doing splits because like it's it's not that they're trying to compete with like
top 10 guilds it's just that people like loot right like players like loot
because it gives you more power and you have more chances of obtaining the
item that you need if you do splits and that's why it became popular with less
hardcore oriented guilds you have three days a week deals or even two days a week
kills who also do splits right now imagine if you're here if you have two
days to raid in a week and you spend both of those as a split where
everybody else is just doing like progression or whatever but you know
some players I would even say vast majority they like loot that's why that's
the point of like playing an RPG right you want to get the best item for your
class so you can do damage and part of that is why like splits are becoming
widely accepted and I you know if we talked about this like five or six years
ago I would have probably said that we are very close to splits being removed
but I think if I if I review it today I would say that like it became a feature
Like I think Blizzard meanwhile sees it as a feature and they're just gonna keep it that way just because like it gives guilt more things to do
Absolutely, I think you said it while where Blizzard if Blizzard didn't want it wanted in the game
They would 100% remove it that being said I I also love loot
I love I I don't think anybody is playing this game and just sitting around wearing like, you know
they're they're green shirts on there. Nobody's running around with no gear on and Lou can be in
the form of actually looting the boss during your splits or it could be in the form of the vault.
For me, I think that the most guilds don't identify splits as what we see right now is the
race for world first where people are running like multiple characters through mythic. Most people
most guilds do splits like they will if they're her mythic raiding guild they'll still do heroic
clear and I think that is a qualifying type of split because you are still running the instance
multiple times for the hope for enhancing your chance for loot so even though you're split and
your guild maybe it's not top 100 maybe it's not a hall of famer maybe you know you're just an
AOTC guild you probably still do some myth some heroic bosses or some normal bosses
Like that's still I would still qualify that as a split so even though this
split seemed kind of weird to you on this mythic mythic mythic
layer most guilds do multi-tier difficulty type of their own splits if that makes sense
Yeah, no, absolutely, like, 100% agree with you and yeah, I just think like, surely, I mean,
I don't even think there is like a better solution to it, like, it's kind of hard to think about it,
like, I, we mentioned already, I don't think the competitive realm solve a problem, I think it makes
the game completely different than because like, at the end of the day, it is an RPG, right, and
you are going there to kill a boss and get a piece of item. You don't go to vendor and you just press
I want this this and that because if that would be a thing then you're almost like might as well
just remove items from the game and just like you're like playing like Overwatch right you just
pick a character and you play that and that's it like so I don't really think there is like a
solution to it. The only thing that I do see and that we kind of did already get a lot of that in
game is like those alt restrictions, right? Like where your alt can get war bond items, you know, like,
and where your alt's kind of share your achievement. So if you upgraded something on your main, you
know, your alt gets like a discount, we already mentioned that and stuff like that. So I think
that is the best approach for share, like to, you know, put to make the game a bit more
friendlier for people who do not have infinite time and they still want to play alt and, you
catch all the gear. I'm sure that world first guilds like also all those changes
makes things a bit easier for them as well when they're doing the splits. So I
think that is the best approach right like I think we might see more of that
in the future where they do make alts even more playable you know like I
don't know you kill a boss and somehow you're free like you can share a trinket
between your alts, you know, like that would be interesting. Like I think I think I think
that would be like something that that would not even hurt the game. But like, you know,
trinkets and traditionally the best items, like the most contested items. And it's also
very simple with trinkets, either you want agility, or you want intellect, or you want
strength, right? And most of them have all share all of those attributes between each
other so basically like in case of gays everybody wants the gays trinket kind of
so this would make alts kind of even more impactful because like the moment
you're one of your character would get the trinket you could trade it freely
between your characters just like obviously just you know use it like if
you need it on your hunter if you need it on your warlock I think this would be a
a good change that would also promote more alt gameplay.
No, no, what are your thoughts about it?
Yes, I think any movement that they've made for warbands,
making things more alt friendly, 100% super supportive
that I'm not a particularly gifted alt player,
but I do love the opportunity to get more loot.
I enjoy learning new classes.
And of course, I think what they've done
with the loot share in the transfer of currency
was such a game changer.
So now you can transfer legacy currency
to different characters.
100% support that.
Because at the end of the day, Blizzard
should want their players to play more of the game.
This is like obviously great players who play the game behind the scenes and they do a lot of like
They're like playing the game in like a sprint
A sprint environment
So they play very long they play for like short bursts, but I feel like somebody like me like I've never discontinued my wow
Subscription um a ride or die
I've had like if I don't raid then I'm going to be doing something else whether it's like doing achievements or collecting or
or keys with friends or trying to, I don't even know,
maybe I'll try to learn to pet battle
because you shamed me about Pokemon
last time we were together.
So, you know, like I love playing World of Warcraft
because it's my number one hobby.
And if I can experience the game on a different tune,
I'll probably just do that.
So I really do appreciate what they've done
to making alts easier, including, if not limited
to the one button rotation.
I mean, the one button rotation is actually like
a really nice addition to the game, unironically.
Like I think it serves several purposes.
I think, you know, the fact that you can pick up anything,
just press a button and it will still be quite relevant.
It's like already a good approach,
but what I always suggest to people,
and I know that one button is not always gonna have
like the most optimal rotation,
but just keeping that button on your bars,
as a form of a reminder of what you should be casting next,
is a really, really good approach to people
to actually learn how to play their class, right?
Like, you don't even have to press it, right?
You don't have to use it.
Just use it as an indicator
of what you should be pressing next
and then eventually you will get there
and know exactly how you should be playing your class.
Oh, that's really smart.
That's true.
Because the icon changes to what your spell would be,
so it's a good visual cue for sure.
Yeah.
I do think that, oh, go for it.
No, no, go, go, go now.
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You just gotta gear it all out.
You gotta get yourself all kitted up for those alts.
And then you can go into LFR
and do your one button rotation,
even though you're not supposed to do it as a tank, Funtun.
What I wanted to mention actually was like,
because you said how you love World of Warcraft
and how you would be playing in no matter what,
even if you wouldn't read it,
you would just do something else.
And I'm always gonna say,
I'm jealous of people like that.
Like I have to admit that I'm the type of player
that I only play well for the competitive aspect.
If I would not be playing competitive well,
I would not be playing it.
But this just has something to do with the fact
that I only played competitive games in my entire life.
Like, you know, I suffer from the fact
that I can't really enjoy multiplayer games
in a different way, right?
Because like for me, this is like,
If I can't compete, it's kind of whatever and I wish I could like because I know that World of Warcraft has so much more than just the competition.
I think the competition is actually the smallest part of all because it also goes quite fast.
But like, you see somebody in game who has like so many achievements, so many months.
I mean, that's impressive. Yeah.
And I feel like those players are also as impressive as like some world first raiders, right?
Because sure, World First Raider is going to be better at pressing buttons, you know,
and killing hard bosses, but you know how much time it takes to have an impressive month
collection or some achievements.
And I think this is where Valve is definitely the best game of all.
You just have so much content that is, I mean, the fact that there is no, I don't think
There is a single player who has like all achievements. No, like is there anybody who even managed to complete the game?
Like I don't think so. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, there's somebody
Who's gotten every single achievement?
For a few expansions for a few expansions and
I would I would call them I would never call them a casual player
like they play this game at such like a
Level if you have all the achievements in the game, you are not a casual player, but this person does not raid
I don't think they raid mythic
Heart like at a competitive level like at all
She streams any future shout out very very fun. Oh, I know that I know that I'm from from Twitter
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, wonderful. Yeah, she, um, yeah, I would call, I would say that most
people who do achievements like her are still considered like hardcore players, even though
they're not, I feel like that, I feel like that phrase is mostly used for Raiders. And
I think that this level of competitive gameplay, like, you know, what we're seeing here on the
method team and your team, of course, and yourself, I would definitely call you hardcore
as well, but it's just like a different flavor and it's equally respectable.
Like there's still like a level of like expertise and detail that just is
needs to be perfectly executed and experiencing every level of the game is
I'm impressed for sure.
Yeah, I agree. Like as I said, it is it is just such a big game with like 20 years
of content and like, you know, whoever like loves to play the game and, you know, does
everything that the game has to offer is for me as well.
Like, yeah, we did they say hardcore is mostly referred to the, to the raiders who play like
on the highest level and, you know, that is true to some degree, but like, then definitely
somebody who has like achieved the massive things involved in terms of other stuff,
like the amount of time that you need to invest for it is pretty much the same amount of time
you have to invest into playing on the world first scene in the race because if you, and
I would even go and say it's probably more time that you need to invest, and shout out
to players like that who are playing the other aspects of the game and mod collectors, achievement
collectors and what not like at the end of the day the the the combination of
everything makes World of Warcraft what it is today you know like such a massive
game that has outlasted so many so many other games and like still going strong
it's it's it's quite unique
absolutely well said chat just said saying there's a difference between being
hardcore and having skills. I love that. I'm gonna definitely use that. Um, all right,
looks like we defeated another boss. Uh, how many splits are we doing? I don't know if we
have a final number of how many splits we're going to be doing today, and this is our fourth split
today. So we're, we've done three and a half successful splits so far. We're looking pretty good.
pretty good very good indeed and very motivated for the day we saw earlier
players with a smile in the raid you know having fun at 7 in the morning good
to see so I think everybody's like I hope they had the meeting yesterday
because we know we were doing housing review on stream and me and Mighty
and then we we we said like in a moment like you know it would be cool if we if
they would do a meeting in one of those houses right like and five minutes later
we just open up a random house and don't get excited it's not I'm not gonna get
into the fact that we found 20 players in one house but we did in fact find Remy
in a house literally building like a table for like 30 people yeah like like
a round room you know like full of seats and like it was there you know like
we entered it was there it was looking at us like hi no so that was quite funny
and I hope like their meeting yesterday had good success you know meetings in
In guilds like this, very important. You go over things multiple times, you have to make
sure that everybody is on the same page, that everybody knows the plan, so that things can
go smooth. And I'm pretty sure part of the meeting was about how they want to tackle
the splits today and exchange opinions. Obviously, there's so many people who are in charge of
that who have their own approach, and they're like, okay, this is how we should be doing,
this is how we, this is what we need. And I think they came in today with a plan. They
have an idea, competition is back on the table, and can't wait to see it.
Absolutely, it's going to be a very exciting next couple of days as these teams get comfortable back
in the heroic mythic splits, watching them get everything geared up for the last final bosses.
I am very excited. I was actually very, very, not excited, but relieved that NA was able
to go in today and it just didn't fall over like the first half of this launch. I was
slightly relieved. These things are always better when there's a little bit of a competition.
I have to ask, do you have like, because I know like in NA generally this team is a bit
more fun when it comes to like some smaller events, do you like participate in some Valve
events other than BlizzCon, is there anything going on really related to Valve in the NA
scene?
Uh, yeah, I just did a, actually I just did an event with Canada.
It was basically somebody made their house like a little shop of horrors, where we all
collected, like they invited like a raid group to their house, and it was a whole maze.
Like you had to walk through this like invisible, visible floor, like there was like beams under
the floor.
And it's like, if you didn't walk perfectly on the beams, you fell through the floor and
you do like wall jump it was it was wild it was what I did not do well but there
was a lot of people who did really well and we had a lot of fun so yeah that
was one of them of course there's always like random wow one-off stuff if
you're you know a streamer in the wow community the Blizzard's really great
to content creators so there's always like a little fun little snippets and
And I love, you know, you get to participate with like the drops, which, you know, which
are here in this channel as well.
You get to watch the stream and then you get cool little goodies and wow.
So I feel like we're all, we're all part of it.
I am a big BlizzCon person.
That is definitely the one that I bank all my vacation pay for.
Yeah.
I mean, I can, I can see that.
it's, Liscon is definitely like a fun place to be. Hopefully I can end up there this year as well,
like you know just being there around all the people that you know from the scene,
that you know from like Twitter and like Twitch, but also just being around the people who play
the same game as you is a very unique feeling, you know. Like also seeing all the cosplayers
there is is very amazing I feel like wow has like a very high level of cosplay
you know like you would expect that to be fair from a game like World of War
Cavities like probably top three most famous games so we would definitely
expect that so yeah it was it was quite it was quite fun what I really like
about BlizzCon in general is like you know there's all those like small areas
like the the dark moon area you know where you buy all the goodies and stuff like that and
you know you see people who are so excited about the game like that are really really
invested into game and then I had like I had I was wearing my guild's jersey and I got like
approached by a person and they didn't know like my guild they didn't like think they just asked me
me, you know, like, is this like some famous team, you know? And I said,
like, yes, I was modest. I was modest. I was like, you know, we are kind of there,
you know, like, you know, bunch of people we do play like top 50 rankings
usually. And then I asked, like, well, do you read, you know? And, and she said,
like, no, she said, like, she never went to read, but he's playing the game for
like probably like it was like something about 10 years or whatever she thinks she says cataclysm or
something like that so it should be around 10 years or more actually actually whoa now when I
now when I think about it the difference from from the world within to cataclysm is like what 15
years or even more yeah it's about 2000 cataclysm was like 2010 I want to say like I don't know
chat can keep me honest. I have to think about it in BlizzCon years. So I think it's like Cataclysm's
like 2010, I would say. Yeah, that's that's that's right. Yes. That's that's really you know,
like what you think about it. But the point was, she said she never rated yeah, like, and I'm like,
well, okay, and like, you know, how do you play the game? And she was like, you know, just likes
Questing likes like hanging out with friends and likes, you know, just chatting in game and stuff like that and
You know to have like people like that to play game for so long, you know
And you know, you don't you're not even like there for the rating or whatever
You're just there because you like the game and you're at least come literally. Yeah, you're at least come
I like it just goes to show like how many
Different types of players the game hasn't like how how the game is like just so big right because like
Like, in no other game you could be seen like, imagine if you're like a Counter-Strike player
and then you're like, yeah, well, I never shoot stuff, you know?
Yeah.
I just run around, you know, I just run around the map, right?
Like, well, that would be like interesting.
But if somebody tells me they don't rate in, wow, I could still imagine there is so many
other things that you could do.
And I'm like, okay, you know, it was like, it's cool to meet people like that.
I'm like always like open to, I'm not like one of those people who like looks at others
because like oh yeah I'm a hardcore either and you do that thing in game you
don't talk to me you know that's that's something oh man okay so if they've
never fought anything and they're just like a passive player did you happen to
ask them like what do you do if you accidentally pull them off like how did
you level up did you actually do you just run away you accidentally like run into
a bear like if I ran into a bear I probably would run away or do you fight
it like that's the thing like I do I do assume that she was fighting monsters in
the open world or whatever but like it was just about the rage because she specifically
said that she didn't like the pressure like she didn't want to be like with such a larger
group and like you know like didn't want to underperform basically such like that's like
not not for her like in that way so okay okay I mean you can bravely run away it's fine
just bravely run away that's what I do a tactical retreat yeah see chat is also saying I feel
play well and have and have upgrading for a long time I didn't even do N plus yeah
like nice I can get behind that and and that's why it's good that wizard is
adding like stuff like story mode because I think a lot of people you know do
care about the whole story and want to see the bosses at least and I think story
mode feels a really good niche for for that you just so you go in you just see
how things look like because it is like still like a nice piece of design that
If you don't want to miss out, you don't want to see the YouTube, you know, you just want
to be there.
So it's good that Blizzard is adding things like that.
I think it's absolutely wonderful.
I mean, given like sometimes, you know, when you, you know, we've been, some of us have
been playing the game for a long time and life changes, priority shifts.
Sometimes, you know, when you're an adult, you have responsibility and limited time to
play games.
So sometimes it's, if you can't be with an organized raid group, it's still nice that
you're able to see all the new content, even if it is solo play, even if it is through
Delves or LFR, or doing the World Bosses, or interacting with the new Prey elements.
There's still a lot to do in the game.
It's great to progress your character when you have time.
You don't have to feel like you're falling behind too, too, too much.
also like oh yeah there's tons of great like you know dad gaming communities that will help you
connect with people that are on your save wave wavelength whether or not it's how you want to
interact with the game or how like how much experience you have so yeah if you have any
questions i'm happy to happy to answer them um i love i love i love those like one off
like side communities i think the fair just like the gems of our blizzard community because they
play 100% of the time. They are the rider dies. They are always here. They are keeping
the lights on at Blizzard as far as I'm concerned because they never unsubscribe like myself.
So they're the backbone of our wild community.
And I realized that I had a plan to April Fool's Day but I didn't. I'm getting soft
like usually like usually I am very like I always go for it but I didn't do it
like I just realized because I just go got somebody attempted to April Fool's
Me so no oh well thank you I would have followed for it I I am always the
person that's just like oh of course okay what was it gonna be now I gotta know
like yeah I'm prepared I would have asked if it's if you just like like is
something burning behind you, right? I'm like, what's going on? This fire? Oh my gosh, I would have
looked too. It's so bad of it. It's so bad. Yeah, I just, I just definitely interesting. I actually
used to have, I used to have like a lot more plants and it was, I had like a fireplace behind me for
like the first like couple of years that I was streaming so I got that comment a lot but
I didn't fall for it back then but I think I would have fallen for it now because I know
I haven't had a fireplace in like a year.
Man.
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All right, we're back into action.
We're hoping for jewelry in this fight, right?
Like, that's what we want.
If all that's all we want is jewelry from here.
Absolutely. Well, some, some trinkets, you know, well, that's also kind of jewelry, right?
Like, yeah, I actually found out that basically trinket is apparently a earring, you know?
Is it? I think it is. Yeah.
I think it is an actual earring. Chad, do you do think trinket is an earring?
Maybe I would say it is because you already have like necklaces, you have rings, and trinkets
could be earrings for sure.
I could see that.
And you obviously have bracers.
I think trinkets could be earrings.
What's if pirates call them?
I feel like some of them are earrings.
And then some of them are just, you know, trinkets, question mark.
It could also be like something like a small voodoo doll that you're bringing with you,
you know, like that has like your exes something and you just bring it with you anytime and
just like whenever you feel like you just like stab a bit.
Oh.
Yes.
Yes.
But you can do that.
Um, you know, that that would be like an on-use style trinket, I think.
Yeah, without a cool down, probably.
Yeah, just, you know, the normal, usually there are about 45 second internal cool downs.
The good ones at least.
Yes.
Absolutely.
I got a trinket.
I've only, I've had the worst luck in trinkets this expansion, and I swear every trinket I
get is either like a green that has like a good like something I think I would
actually want or it's like a three-minute on use trinket and I'm like
what am I supposed to do with this as a paladin I might as well just eat it like
it's like I don't need to use this at all anyways you got to make sure I
equipped it and I put it in you know you got to move it around you know to slot
one in slot two just so that you can trade trinkets, you know.
I do miss the times.
I do miss the times when trinkets were completely busted.
Like if you go back to Mists of Pandaria, like famous for absolutely broken trinkets.
I mean, that was just joy to play.
I don't know.
I'm a big fan of like broken things in games when something is just so brutally OP.
It kind of makes it memorable. It makes, you know, obviously it's gonna suck for some who do not have it or play classes that do not benefit from it.
But like, you know, if I think about the last few expansions, I probably only can memorize a few trinkets and that's only because like, I was part of the loot council, so to say.
Like if I go back and think to some actual memorable trinkets, then many of those are in my head.
And then I'm like, oh, I really enjoyed it when the game was like that.
Yeah. I mean, the trinkets that people left the guild over, obviously.
Now that you've had to experience that, but I know that at least in like,
and maybe it's old, like previous guilds, when loot was less accessible,
Or when, I guess in my classic guild, when loot is still quite, you know, limited, so weekly lockout.
But yeah, trinkets are hot commodity.
I'm trying to think through which ones I personally remember the most.
Obviously Chat nailed it on the head with the font of power that like channeled.
The only thing that really sucks about it is the fact that it was like a channeled spell.
So you had to like use it before you pulled the boss fight.
But when I think about how clunky activating that font of power was, obviously it's worth it.
And isn't that the same I've never used it, but isn't that the same
on use as the puzzle box?
That's an Algathar Academy right now.
It's like the best trinket for melee.
Don't you have to like stand there and cast the puzzle box for it to be like good or.
Yeah, it has it has a custom
Pretty sure. Yeah, but now I have to go back to like fund of power because I I used to be get like like flashbacks
You know like when you when you have a pool timer going off and you see people like everybody's like
Yeah, everybody's like fainting up and then somebody it's like purple papers like yeah
Yeah, and then somebody just says don't pull stop the pool and it's like oh
Oh my god, everyone's like collectively groaning. They're like, what's the matter with you? Yes. Yes. That was a great memory.
It was fun. They're like, cool. We're all waiting five minutes because this guy. Oh my gosh. It's, oh yeah.
That definitely has happened in the past too. And usually people like potion too because you wanted to like pre pot back then.
So you weren't like combat locked with your potion. Oh my god. Okay. Yeah, let's do a poll in five minutes
Fogulist
What other shrink is for crazy I remember when I got the skull gold an
Back in TVC. It was like the only haystrink it and I liked it because it made my wings green as a warlock. I
love my t6
I mean, if you go back to MOP, the trinket that gave you guaranteed crit, I always forget
the name, but that's basically the most broken trinket in the Istanbul area, I think Layshaan
was dropping it, not sure, but Chat knows 100%, that was a joy to play as a warlock
when you just have your guaranteed the crit in your openers.
Oh, yeah.
Very, very, very crazy numbers.
Very, very fun.
All right, this boss is getting all over here in 5 mil, less than 1%.
Let's see some jewelry here.
Yeah.
And we gonna get some ribbons now, I'm pretty sure.
I'm not even, I don't even know how many ribbons they need,
but unfortunately it doesn't seem that we got one.
That one looks in general, oh, we got the neck, I think.
No, we didn't actually.
Oh well.
This was not it.
Lots of crests though, that's good.
Lots of crests.
Alright, that completes our fourth split.
see what we if we keep in the zone see if we keep in the zone and yeah the chat is saying
an airing vision of Laysha and yeah that was that that was that it that was nice I think
I think it's I think it might be the most broken ticket it's involve history I'm not
sure though maybe maybe there was something more broken but nothing comes into my head
than that Trinket. I think the LFR version was still better than any other Trinkets from the next year.
Yeah, and back then you could use old gear for a while. Like there wasn't any craziness. Like they
didn't automatically make old expansion Trinkets like legacy, right? So people were using like
previous tiers, most like blending tiers like twos and fours or two and two splits with like
tier tokens so. Oh wither gym was so good, the arcano crystal that was like just like a stat
stick for those who didn't play it was just like a flat like all of your primary all your primaries
it's so good. Yeah but that trinket was not like you know broken broken it was
like obviously it was best for everybody because it was like a huge
stat stick but but like you know when you don't have like something that goes
into your cooldowns in that moment where you're like getting an insane power up
during like those 12 seconds or whatever doesn't come to me like as I know
that's like super busted right it's just like a very good trinket for everybody
is a stat stick and that's it so that drink it I never was like so hyped about because I've never
felt like it's so impactful even though you know everybody wanted it but
very true every has a every has a cat birthday today happy birthday abby's cat
Ah, happy birthday.
Oh, I love, I love the animals.
Do you have any?
I think he does it, right?
No, no, my plants are poisonous.
So if I am to do any house or cat sitting,
I just usually travel out, which is fun.
Ooh, we get to see, oh, look at this crazy desktop.
Oh my gosh, what were we?
Where do you find anything?
Looks like my mom's computer, dude.
You know, I love the chaos.
Like, I always keep saying I'm a chaotic person, but I have a system in my chaos.
So I know exactly where things are in my chaos, yeah?
Well, okay, my desktop doesn't look like that.
Just like, like, I do get the idea behind it.
close my like where I put my clothes is probably like looking similar to that
desktop but I have a perfect order of course yeah that's great that yeah I
mean it's longest things don't move and you just get comfortable with with it
where everything is it's it's fine it becomes like a little piece of memory
like memory games almost I'm not gonna judge it's fine we're just logging into
different characters here it looks like we have a few versions like few clients
wow open this must be the warlock client cuz and then there's a second account
on that's for just a major I guess I'm just reading I like I'm just reading
I think for Abby's cat, got her ass bleached.
Is your cat okay?
That sounds horrible.
That's so weird.
He's a rescue.
You're free cat acting like, acting like, you know why your cat was free now?
Oh my god, you know like I can't nonsense. I
Also have like a funny story with that like it was a time where I was like I want to have white hair, you know
I was like, I don't like
ten years ago, but I was like I want to have white hair, you know, and
I was watching tutorials on how to bleach hair and stuff like that
and you know, I found out I found out about all the things and now I'm gonna do it myself and I
I did start with it like I was like doing it, but like I didn't really didn't think about that
It actually is you know bleaching thing
So I use towels to like wipe off all the excessive bleach and stuff like that
And all my towels I think I destroyed four towels after that
They were all like completely bleached with like marks everywhere. I'm like, oh, wow
Yeah, that that actually makes a lot of sense that that would happen, you know
Yeah, yeah, you just got to lean into it and either dive them the color you want them back or
You just go with the tie-dye vibe. You just gotta be like, oh no, they're custom tie-dye. It's it's not it's not a problem
Speaking of a customization someone in chat is asking what your favorite
Who's your favorite raider?
Who's my favorite?
I can't I can't say that you know I cannot be favoritizing people you know like my other place and it's like me
But you know, it's like it's like when you're a parent there's always a favorite child
There you go
He's got a favorite, but he doesn't want to tell you that means that you're not the favorite
I grew up in a big family. That just means that you're not it
you're not you're not it yeah all right it looks like we're starting our fifth
split here for heroic we're making great time we've only been up for two hours
now making good time yeah absolutely peak effectiveness right now like we are
going from one split to another which is a good thing I would still assume a lot
of our viewers will tune in a bit later you know into the day and you know they
gotta be there for the prime time so to say because when we get started getting
the more interesting things when we start seeing the new bosses as well so
better have this done early morning probably before lunch we're gonna be
done with a lot of things already like with the majority of the really really
boring stuff and then we get more into it afterwards so stay tuned chat we are
making good progress here. Absolutely, building a lot of groundwork for the
potential success and ideal rate comp for the next couple of days. Yeah, absolutely
well said. I'm really excited to see how they're going to kind of like work
through the next couple pieces. Like obviously they're gonna do heroic for
March of Kelthinoss, right? And we're kind of interested to see whether or not they're going to do like a more funnilled approach or more of like an even distribution of loops.
Um, it really depends on how certain they are and what come they want to run. Yeah, like if, if they have a clear idea based on what they saw for Mannail, how the bosses look like, and they're like, now we have a clear idea.
100% know exactly what we're gonna run and that's the best thing they just gonna
Put any sort of upgrades into those players no matter what even if it's like a 0.1
And the other one might get like 2% you don't care if you don't plan to run that player. So
at the end of the day it really comes down to the what they really want later on and
pretty sure they know already, but
There's always gonna be surprises. Mythic bosses have not been pulled yet
you know until you don't pull a mythic boss you can't really guarantee that whatever you think it's
the right approach is the actual right approach so and that's always the one of the most exciting
things about the world first race there's always some guild that has something better than the other
and you know especially on very hard bosses like the approaches tend to like differentiate a
a bit between the gills so I'm really excited to see that like for me the comp
stuff is always the most interesting thing there in in every race absolutely
the I love I love watching like how you can see how we just watch bright one one
player switch through the whole account of warlocks whole account of and then a
completely separate account of mages and it's kind of interesting how like
that's obviously this player is an expert gamer and they prioritize range
pure DPS so I wonder it but for me like when I'm playing like it and for me like
when I play I play a holy Pali which is melee healer and my secondary is a monk
Which is also the melee healer so it will be interesting to see like how many more splits we do and and whether or not
Anybody is going to be like role transferring because I feel like most everybody's like you know gearing up all their tanks gearing up all their
Gear all the DPS is gearing up all the DPS and then of course all the healers. She's kind of like role-swapping
Except for Roy been she's a she's been doing multiple drew is this whole time
Yeah, Robin is just a gamer. But on that note, I think our time is up on them. I think our
little morning breakfast talk and all the other things that we mentioned are now over and we're
gonna head over to our new set of casters, which is going to be Mighty Teapot and the legend himself
bangers so chat is in good hands you guys gonna have fun you're gonna get
some new content today guys so stay tuned stay with us enjoy the other casters
and one thing if you wish to say something now is the time and then we're
gonna be on our way to bed and breakfast I guess no we're good thank you and
And good luck everybody. Have a great rest of your day. You're in great hands. See you soon.
Bye.
Hello.
Yeah, hello, hello. You know, I had a whole open of the plant about how I was going to prank the chat and say I've got great news guys.
It's another day of splits, nothing else.
And I was going, ah, April 1st, gotcha.
But sometimes reality is stranger than fiction,
apparently, because here we are.
We're back.
We're so back right now.
Yeah, well, guess what it is?
It's heroic splits, right?
So we're back here.
Not even getting things.
Not even getting splits.
I think I've casted Mythic for an hour.
I've been seeing an hour of my whole time casting.
This is like my fifth shift now.
And I've seen, I think I saw one hour as a pattern to Perky
when they are progress in the Pandas boss. And that's it. Other than that I've been doing
M+, for about 10 hours I think. I didn't even get to the Mythics bit. When they were doing
the Mythics bits I didn't have a class shift so I didn't even do any Mythics bits. I'm
not sure how many Heroics bits they're going to do. I think this is their fifth one already,
there's one. Maybe we get a Mythics bit towards the end of our shift but I have to see.
Oh, okay. Oh, well, look, you know, it's just going to be a big build up before the final boss, before the final race here as well.
It's all going to be worth it in the end. I can promise you that, Chad. It's all about the build up. It's a slow burn.
You know, you're watching a long TV show. Perhaps you've got to wait all the way until the end to get that pay off.
Um, well, actually, you know, I, I feel like I just want to, I want to go there immediately.
If you had a, if you had a chance to actually take a look at the, the latest, the, the last boss in particular, actually.
Yes.
I, I, well, yeah.
So I had a little, a watch of liquid last night before I went to sleep.
And it looks really cool.
Did you see it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Visually, the fight looks epic, right?
Yeah.
Um, and then sort of fights where you have things to juggle or they blow up or a lot of soaky mechanics.
They know me quite hard on mythic.
So, I have faith that that boss could actually be a bad guy on the field, you know.
I've seen a heroic.
100% I'm actually feeling very confident about it being a decent challenge.
Like, as you say, there's a lot of, it feels like there's a lot of individual responsibility, right?
Like, you know, we're a single player.
If a mistake happens, it can, you know, do some serious damage to the group or even wipe the group right.
So, there's a lot of potential for that boss to be very, very difficult.
And of course, they could all, they could obviously, there's multiple kind of memorization, spatial tests that the game is giving you.
And it's like you could kind of ramp that up to a pretty demonic level as well if you wanted to
Like make that like really really challenging and to execute kind of in the moment
What do the symbols mean that boss because I see like these symbols appear on people's heads
But I wasn't sure what they were really doing. Ah, so basically it's a memory game
Okay, it shows you the symbols in order and then it does a beam right like a rotational beam and the order the beam hits
must be the same order that it shows you.
Yeah.
That's cool.
So you have to kind of arrange,
the way that the guild's been doing it,
oh well, the liquor's been doing it so far,
is you kind of arrange in a shape around the boss, right?
And that kind of indicate that allows you to figure out,
okay, well, this is where you,
it basically gives you an assigned position.
You just need to remember which one you got
and what order the one you got is,
and you go to a set position around the boss, right?
And then the boss fires out its beam.
And basically, if you get it in the wrong order,
It's absolute, it's, it's, yeah, out she outs, right?
Like not good.
And yeah, you get a little bit of damage
if you're in the right order
and then a crazy amount of damage
if you're in the wrong order.
So obviously on mythic,
that's going to be even more punishing, right?
So if you end up messing that up.
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of
wipe mechanics on that fight,
which is definitely where you get a lot of pulls on progress.
Like you see like the laundry
and stuff of the bombs, right?
Like there were so many wipes to that boss
because of them bombs.
And it's definitely given me a bit of hope actually
the last boss I'm not gonna like. Yeah, no, I'm definitely feeling good about it. It should be a
really big challenge. I think there's also a good potential for it to be a DPS check as well.
It's got all of the usual you've got some like space management stuff where you're going to run out
of room towards the end of the fight. You've got to hit things with beams to, you know, and therefore
you don't die from that and get that right while doing your DPS rotation. So I think I'm feeling
really good about the the race you're going into. Marshall called the Nass actually as the N-boss at
at least certainly seems to have all of the trappings of a proper, proper mythic end boss.
I'm definitely very happy to see that. And with any luck, you know, Bellratt is no slouch as well.
Yeah, I'll just say, if that took a little while to get through to, because again, you know, I, I know I hate to kind of break the fourth wall here.
But what we really want is the race to go a little bit longer into the week.
So we have all the guilds on the end boss at the same time.
That's that's that is our key condition that we need to have a super exciting race towards first
So yeah, if Beloran can you know gate keep a little bit gate keepers from the end boss just you know
Too bad, you know maybe a hundred pulls, you know, maybe 80 a hundred something like that
That would be fantastic. I think and then we really ramp up the brutality
On the midnight falls encounter there as well, which yeah, I'm really looking forward to now
I can't wait to see how it's gonna look on mythos. I mean the belly if I did a lot of damage, right?
I was actually quite surprised because you obviously liquid or she ruled were running a full
Guild run, so it wasn't like they had any helpers
And some of the kind of mechanics seemed but they were quite rough actually
Like the dodged in the middle and then you obviously had the the soak if being which did a lot of damage
I mean they all wiped the sins that the first so come out because they didn't have enough people in there
The whole rage it blew up instantly
Yeah, there was a quite a lot of
Mechanics even on Bella and so I'm hoping that you say if we get even 80 to 100 pawn up boss
It'll definitely set up the race perfectly because I don't think any
Yielding to have some sort of head start by just what is a little bit harder. Oh, yes
100% that is very much what we want to see of course and well
I think though, you know, we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves here. Unfortunately as I think today
It's you know, I think there's a big folks again, right?
Going into they which you know, I suppose you know, it's not a huge surprise
that we've you know we saw even last week that we had the capacity to do these mythic splits right and everyone's gonna be
Extremely well-practiced and doing that because of how much myth that we played last week
And yeah, it does appear that the some of these bosses are gonna be pretty tricky
They're not just gonna flop over I think is the thought process in the in the guilds right now
So yeah, like it's not terribly surprising
But it is gonna be a lot of heroic splits a lot of mythic splits and probably even a little bit of mythic plus
throw it in there as well just to max out the item level for today. So look, but you know, I look, I will say something though, you know, with that said, this could be kind of our last day that's entirely focused on gearing. I think we're probably going to progression tomorrow, I would imagine, or at least some progression.
So we'll have to see. Of course, you know, like this is one thing that this thing does actually happen in the race towards first
Sometimes right is that you'll get to an end boss and go, okay
We need some more gear and then you might go ahead and do some
Potentially some more splits and that's of course even more enabled
It's more enabled by the fact that you know the lockouts separate. It's not the same lockout voidspire and of course March and even dream refer
They're all separate lockouts. So that's even more enabled. So if you get to that emboss and go, oh, we could really use a couple of extra items here
That's always going to be a potential option to kind of take a break from that progression and go, okay
Right, let's go gear up and then we'll come back even stronger and get to work on the boss
So I'm actually quite surprised to actually like her I couldn't think that even after doing all this in class
I didn't even have to even need anymore. I am from her. It must be it must be like crest or something that they may be trying to find quickly
Like I didn't really feel like they would need too much from her voice bar anymore. Yeah, it was wrong
I mean, I think many mythic words for that
it needs. Yeah, I think, you know, crest farming is obviously going to be pretty efficient here,
just max out all the hero crests. There's maybe a couple of trinkets that have been alluded,
right? Like maybe a couple of characters got perhaps a little bit unlocking on one specific
item that you're looking for. So yeah, you're just going for some of those like powerful items.
But yeah, I think that because you do need quite a lot of crests, like this is definitely not an
inefficient way to kind of get that done, you know, like a mythic plus key, just take a little while
To complete and and of course it you know the ones that you know the guild will be doing will be giving myth crest
Right, so you have to max out your myth crest from m plus and then keep playing to max out your hero crest as well
There's might just be a quick way to kind of do both right you do the n boss and that of course gives you I think 30 right 30
Myth crests and 30 hero crests or something like that. I can't recall exactly
But yeah, it's very efficient to do that
Maybe pick up a couple of items of course if the neck drops that drops up. Oh, excuse me at max eye level
So that's like a really neat crest save as well that you can pick up
So yeah, I mean, it's I think there's definitely some value there look even a little
Catalyst there as well you loot the crest and catalyst drop there as well
Which is also something nice to have for let's say you drop a myth piece. You can just catalyst that over all of this
270 item of looking very very healthy
No good question chat from a radio PAV. What kind of fight is your favorite?
For me personally as a DPS
I love the really really tight D-Gest checks. The ones where you like at least 0.2 seconds from
wiping every time. If no one, if people mess up their button rotation or you know if someone dies
you just don't kill the boss. So for me personally I love the really tight D-Gest checks on the
Rhygolons or the Butcher in Heiml for example. They're like really really tight D-Gest checks.
What would you say T-Pot? You know it's it that's actually a really really tough one like you know
Obviously I'm playing tank so I like ones where the tanks have got to do stuff
But I think I would say I love the ones that have really high movement in them right where you have to be very mobile
You're moving the group around like there's some strict positioning checks as well
Obviously the tank needs to be doing something at the same time like for me like the standout the fight
I think I've enjoyed the most would be mythic Demensius
Which I think was really engaging in phase three from the tank perspective was really really
you know, it pushed me to improve as a player quite a bit to do that correctly. And there's a lot of movement like you have to react to what's going on a little bit right. The DPS check was also no joke as well at the same time, which is always fun. Right. Like I think I feel like it's not true excitement. Okay. Until you're basically killing the boss in the
That's like the optimal time to kill the vast right when it's just winding up to completely destroy the entire right and
That fight had of course had a had a really exciting visual representation of that as the arena closes in around you before you get devoured
By dementia. So I think yeah, that's my that's my number one fight for sure
I think my other really big highlight would be we Queen answer as well. I absolutely love that encounter
I was really really fun from the tank perspective
and also just had an incredible kind of visual flair, loads of like very movement heavy, positioning oriented, a lot of coordination checks as well.
I'm also a really big fan of that where you know you've got players who have to do some kind of rotation together with kicks and CCs,
when you have to be handling multiple mechanics and supporting each other and doing that.
Those are the fights I find really, really enjoyable and they have to be difficult as well.
Okay, if it's not going over 200 pulls, it doesn't have.
the end bosses are always, it's got to be an end boss really hasn't it, they're just by far the best.
I reckon the guild will be actually fighting the progress bosses probably tomorrow at some point guys.
Today we have a get on the loot, let's get as prepared as we can be.
And yeah, unfortunately there's going to be a few more splits, but hopefully this will be the last day of just pure splits guys.
Yes, we're going to make it, we're finally going to make it through.
I actually thought today we might see some progress, but then I woke up and saw a liquid
with sillage bits.
You've resigned yourself to your fate pretty much.
I got my coffee and I was like, yeah, okay, I'm going to be talking to this bit upstairs.
Fine, let's go.
Oh, that's good.
I mean, it's a different race to Worlds first, for sure.
Very much a different one.
And yeah, it's been a longer journey to get to the really juicy progression compared
last time but surely it's all going to be worth it. Yeah for sure. Definitely. The last boss
looks actually pretty good. I'm actually having a bit of faith in that boss now. Let's just pray we
don't eat our words but because you never know. Sometimes bosses are actually really hard to
work. You go mythic and it's actually easier but I'm not throwing it in boss there's no way that's
going to happen. Well I think also like we have to assume that Blizzard doesn't want it to go that
way either right? Like that's the other thing you know they're going to look like they're going to
going to look a bit goofy, right?
If they go, oh, look, you know, we're doing our brand new expansion.
No add-ons.
And the game just completely flopped.
So it was like, well, that's not a very good look, is it?
No, it's not.
So they probably don't want to go that way if it's all possible.
Yeah, that means you've got a bit more class to happen, guys.
So any questions?
Feel free to ask me in hotpot.
We'll try to get some questions asked for you.
Yeah, 100%.
always fun to have the chat getting involved along for the ride there an important part of the race
towards first okay we would I mean look what would we be what where would we be without the twitch
chat nowhere okay wish we had some clips of what people got in their vaults uh that'd be quite
cool to go through and have a look but I'm guessing guessing that'd be quite hard to find yeah who has
ever had a good vault has anyone got perhaps yeah let's just say they've all got a juicer and then we've
juicy trinket, juicy trinket, maybe a weapon of some kind, perhaps.
A lot of exciting things I think you can pick up in the vault this summer.
There's a lot of kind of special items, right?
Like, I think, you know, you've got the neck that's got that cantrum effect.
If you're a plate user, you've got the special gloves from Seed of the Triumvirate
that have like a shadow damage proc on them that can then make you proc the neck
if you don't have access to shadow damage.
Of course, now we're going to have access to, well, I guess this will be next week, right?
week right next vault, but we've got that special ring, of course, from from the
Marshall Coven as well. So there's loads of like really kind of exciting items, I
think, that you could potentially not only be able to pick up in the raid, but
also be able to pick up from your vault, too. For sure. The vault could actually be
really good, obviously, on progress because it can give you such a big free
upgrade, but then also it could be bad. Yeah, and it's nothing. Yeah, give you
I've seen nothing, but yeah, obviously that's the RNG of the game, unfortunately, so yeah, let's just hope we got some good RNG.
Yeah, well, of course, you know, that's the point in having potentially five characters that could end up being your main.
That's true.
Slightly reduce the odds of that happening, that's the advantage of doing all of these splits and putting all of this work in.
So yeah, we've definitely got that going for us.
I'd love to know, actually, how many of the players are going to be playing different characters this week than they did in the first two weeks?
two weeks. Yeah, that is unheard of. That's kind of unheard of, especially if it's the
same class and spec. Okay, sometimes people switch different classes, right? That's,
that's different. But if you're actually playing the same class as you were playing the first
two weeks of them, if you have ever seen that before, you just swap a character.
I would imagine it might end up being quite a lot of the place. Yeah. Right. I would say
like, because of course, like, you know, the original characters, as it were, right, won't
done mythic splits right so they should theoretically end up having quite a bit less gear I would say
and you know there's also some shenanigans you can do with all of the crests that might be
attempted as well like being incredibly greedy on how to kind of min max that and how to optimize
that so I would say that I think it's pretty likely that a lot of raiders might be playing the same
you know same class same spec obviously but it's entirely possible it will actually be on a different
character this time around.
Yep, for sure.
Let me see, Crepe here, Juicy, with the 270 right now.
Ooh, yeah, I mean, that's not super.
That's not too Juicy, no, yeah, that's not too Juicy.
It's pretty Juicy, but it's not like mega Juicy.
For a tank, for a tank that's Juicy.
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty fair, that is Juicy, yeah.
Like, tell me about it.
Like, I'm watching all this, you know, all this myth loot
dropping the radio, I'm not getting any of that for a while.
Like, that's going on through all the greedy DPS,
we're going to be sucking up all of that Juicy loot
over the next couple of weeks.
I'm like, bottom of the queue.
Can I get a, the only myth I'm getting is from the vault,
which is quite interesting, right?
Because if you don't have myth pieces,
it's kind of hard to spend myth crests, right?
Like because of the way the crest system works now,
you know, you can't, you know, previously
you could just dump your myth crest on hero gear
and say, oh yeah, that's fine, you can do that, right?
But now that's not, that's not an option anymore, right?
Like it's hero crest on hero items,
myth crest on myth items.
So if you only have, if you don't have any myth items,
not really spend your crasts, which is a rather interesting thing of course, you know it's
not the end of the world because they're not going anywhere, right? And you will eventually
get myth pieces from the vault and doing mythic plus. And also you can do crafting as well.
There's another crafted piece I believe available this week too. You've got to go do your weekly
quest and get your crafted item of course. You can get to a very, very juicy 285 eye level.
I wonder what the R level is going to be when we go into this, this, the progress rate.
Do you reckon it will be at 280th after we send Cress and the upgrades and stuff?
I mean, it could be, it could be really getting up there.
Like I don't think I've really thought about it enough to give like a proper number.
But it could be, it could certainly be in like the mid to, to a higher two seventies,
I think, like for sure.
Cause like, okay, I can kind of go on.
Some of the players in Maiga that have the most gear are kind of like 275, like getting
above the halfway point to 280.
They've had like good gear, good RNG, right, you know, the usual, all that kind of stuff.
But obviously, we haven't done mythic splits, right?
We haven't done a mythic split.
We haven't done a million heroic splits, so every single crest has been perfectly used.
So yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
We could be seeing some absolutely mind-blowing numbers when we actually get into the raid
with how much gear they have and well I just like on that element right I just
really hope that Blizzard have realized that yeah these players are gonna be
beyond juiced going into this raid on Mythic so those numbers need to be very
very very high I think. For sure. I guess the best thing about this is they've had
four or five days to work this out themselves right? Yeah. Which is I guess
it's a bit of a perk for them it's probably why they changed better in a
little bit, and thought that
let's try and make that look
a little bit boss now, and
obviously the increase in an
eye level in the loot makes that
more real, right?
It actually feels like it's a
little bit boss now than what it
did before.
Yeah, I think that was good, and
that's why I definitely am
feeling pretty optimistic.
It's like, I think it's pretty
clear that Blizzard is trying to
tweak it around.
We saw a little bit scuffed
earlier on. We saw that
absolutely lunatic buff to the
Paladins that's now been
reverted immediately after the
Swell's first kill that which is I think is really funny. That's it's back to back to normal now
but yeah of course like some significant buffs to Bellarun. I think he even got buffed on
Hbroak as well like even it got hotfix I think like after release to make it more challenging as well
so yeah just in general I think they are definitely trying to get the tuning right
on these encounters which is always always good and yeah like moving the item level I think is a
really nice touch because it's yeah they want this one to be like okay right we're gonna try again
We'll give you guys a proper penultimate boss this time. Okay, well that first one alleria just warm up
Okay, we're going to be an event right here's the real one. Here's the real one coming through I
Guess the only boss that really did actually hit properly was pilots and in boys. Yeah, would you say the same?
So far I would say that is accurate. Yeah, like in terms of it
Actually giving the race of all first girls like a little not a lot of trouble a little bit of trouble
Yeah, but you think if they'd kept out for the boss this boss would have been very quick, right? Oh, I think it would have died in
I don't know like 20 20 try. Oh, maybe I'll see maybe in lesson now
I think I think it really cannot be overstated. Just how much more difficult
Like that change made it like doubling the number of debuffs is crazy. That's
Much I do and of course like the damage reduction as well
Like they reduced the damage of the toll to which was also a really big challenge right because what would happen is is that oh you
Survive oh good job
You survive the mechanic and then like a one-shot like almost one shot like wax the entire raid
So people aren't at max health very quickly after those damage events. It's just like yeah good night. See ya
You're dead
This is with guilds five healing right in fact some of the guilds that cleared after the race towards first have even run six
6 healers for that encounter, which kind of says something that perhaps the tuning on
the DPS check is also fairly mediocre in the other direction, like if you can 6 healer
boss that's a little bit like, oh that ain't good, on that as well, like 5 healers obviously
not unheard of and I think it's fine to have a 5 healer encounter sometimes, but 6, that's
a little bit out of whack I think.
Yeah, for 20 players you should not really be having 6 healer fights, I mean, I think
4 and 5 is definitely the correct number you should have.
When there's a 6-heal check, even the DPS checks fire too easy,
or the healing number they just bonkers, right?
Which can be fun for the healers, I suppose,
but then I think they would prefer a 5 or 4 healer,
which is just hard, and you can deal with them
that amount of healers.
But yeah, it was definitely a weird...
You don't really see 6 healers very often at all, really.
I don't remember the last time we had 6 healers on a fight, even.
Yeah, that's very much, very much an anomaly, I would say.
But yeah, I think we'll probably end up being addressed right now with those changes, which is good.
And I think the other thing that was really problematic about that fight is because of the number of dispells.
Well, look, I'm going to have to say it, OK, ended up with a lot of people
are reactivating good old weak horrors to make that happen to get those dispeller signs,
which was probably something that was super happy about once again.
like you know I think in future to be fair like that won't happen because like
the only reason it became an issue is because they had to you know they made
the the debuff a public aura or rather not a private aura so that allowed the
you know the the bootleg week horrors to basically do you know how do you do the
mechanic a little bit and yeah well I don't think it needs to be stated at
this point right Blizzard is obviously really looking to move away from that
type of mechanical design I say and not a surprise to see that can I get
addressed in pretty quick time. Yeah for sure. Yes, we've got the Lyria kill now, have we?
This is our 6th split now, I think. Yeah, I believe that is the case. I think just before
we hopped on, it was the 5th, I think. Yeah. That was just getting done. So yeah,
splitting them is, we are very efficient actually, goodness me. Like we are zooming
to these splits. I think that is going to happen. More gear, we're all super powerful
right now. So all these bosses just getting completely melted with all the extra damage
I'll put that we have access to I guess they've been ready for two hours two and a half hours nearly now. Yeah, so we're going
Yeah, absolutely going right now. And it's honestly, I'll tell you what it's fun to see alliria again
You know, I've been losing my mind over you. I've just been watching like the first five bosses, right?
Like over and over again for a while. So it's good to actually mix it up a bit
You know, leave it on heroic and and indeed on mythic as well
I do think this is still actually a rather fun fight a rather exciting encounter. I love it visually again
and it's got those movement components
that I find really enjoyable,
the baiting, the dodging, right?
Like it's a really exciting encounter, I think.
And despite it perhaps being a little bit easier
than perhaps we'd be looking for
from the racer world's first perspective.
Here we go.
Is this full method, are there any helpers?
That is a good question.
I think it's full method.
It looks like full method.
We're trying to see if there are any helpers in there, but I believe this is full methods.
So I think we're just going absolute all in for efficiency here, right?
Like getting these splits on it as quickly as possible, because of course, helpers are
all well and good, but you know, the method raiders, massive blasts, and of course, like,
you know, like the method raiders have crazy gear on their alts as well at this point,
right?
So they are going to be absolutely crushing.
And we've got a big day today, right?
We've got a lot to do.
So every minute is going to count on this efficiency.
They obviously don't need to use helpers because they can do enough funds in-house, which is what happens most of the time if you have this many characters.
Any reason they normally have to use helpers at the start, guys, is because they want to do more runs with the characters that they have in-house, so they have to spit the characters out properly.
Yeah, and ultimately, because we're dealing with a lower amount of target characters, that means we just don't need that many runs anymore, not as many runs.
because basically what's been happening over the previous reset and what we're doing here as well,
we're kind of getting down to a short list of, okay, this is going to be the most powerful
character that I'm going to be playing in the raid over the course of those mythic splits,
over the course of all the mythic plus and extra stuff that was done there, vault results,
right, like all sorts of stuff is going to go into that decision. But now, on this next reset,
the guilds are going to have a very good idea, right, this is going to be my main probably,
right? So we're going to just get it as much gear as possible and then charge into progression.
Well, you can tell by how good they are. Look at the DPS numbers compared to what they were the week
ago. Yeah. They're in the 200 plus Ks now, which is I didn't remember seeing that one.
We are powered up. Yeah. Wildy absolutely unleashing on the Frostmage without doing some crazy DPS.
And you have everyone looking very, I mean, Wildy, I feel like it's a well-known Luke Goblin,
right? The absolute fiend for the loot is well known.
I mean, in the five years of method, he's always the best kid.
Yeah.
Always. Every race I did, he was always the best kid,
and he's still known that he wasn't good enough. That's the
way it is.
It's that mage privilege, right? You know, you are the main
character, and sometimes like you are the main character as the
mage, and look, it goes down to the loot, like the main
character demands to be geared. That is just the way it is.
Yeah, because he knows that normally what how it works with Luke right is you always want to make one of say
Let's just say well, it's always gonna be because he's the major and he's the boss right the major off
You want to make one of the majors like absolute term later because he's just always gonna be in so you know
You're never ever gonna waste that loot if you gear a warlock for example as a term later
And for some reason you don't need a warlock on one boss, which you feel you've definitely seen before
you just waste all that loot.
So, Wilde just always gets full juice every time.
That's that mage privilege.
So yeah, he's always got like ridiculously good eye level.
Yeah, 100% and yeah, I think you know,
mage is just one of those ones that, I mean,
obviously it's got the buff, so it can't ever be dropped.
But I feel like it always comes in clutch as well
with its good ability to handle mechanics too.
It's got a lot of mobility.
It can survive pretty well as well.
So if it's got to go and do something the mage can be pretty much relied on to perform that you know perform
Whatever it needs to do like within the rate as well
So yeah having a lot of gear on that character is just going to be value to fall right like you're always going to be in
giving that arcane intellect
One of the best buffs that you can get
in the raid and of course
Usually doing really well on the damage meters as well, right? It's not a surprise to see the blue class
At the top of the meters. I think sometimes and well, yeah
We can see that with two of them all hold on though. We actually do have the warlock taking over
I believe it's a deep change. I think actually on top of the meter
Okay, the old man returning topping the meters in this road split. That's a very exciting
Let's see if you can do it on mythic as well. I think it's also got more stability than fire and
Arcana gets because they have double ice block right? Yeah. Yeah, and it's very OP
Yeah, like I mean mage lost quite a lot of his defense
Yeah, it did.
Yeah, it did.
And that's why Frost kind of still has a good amount of that, because you have the double
ice block or double ice cold, depending on what way you want to go, which is super useful,
really powerful defensive ability.
I mean, look, if you pop ice cold, you're pretty much good to go.
It's a massive damage reduction effect.
Yeah.
Certainly, basically, nothing's going to get through that outside just like a clean one
shot.
So you still got that good durability on the Frostmage at the very least.
Uh-huh.
So, good morning, Soxxy, so yeah, guys, like I said, we did spits to give them for the
rest of the day, probably any questions, please feel free to ask, and me and Tpop will answer
the best we can.
Oh.
But yeah, other than that, we're going to be watching some of her X-Bits, guys, for our
shift at least.
And then we've got a couple of these to do, so yeah, sit back and relax, see if we get
any good loot.
I imagine we're looking for the neck item here, it is probably going to be the major
thing that we're looking to pick up.
It was felt really weird to me, actually, that this boss didn't drop the Curios in the
week long.
It felt like it was a lot harder to pick up tier and like share out tier with everyone
in the first week because it doesn't have those Curio drops because of course all of
that is from, and it's going to feel weird now, you're going to go to Midnight Falls
and you're going to be dropping Curios, but everyone's already got four tier at this point.
Yeah, yeah, because especially with the catalyst change, because normally, oh, you could maybe
upgrade, you could get a hero piece versus a champion piece.
like I think and certainly for you know the players in the race to worlds first
I feel like everyone's already gonna have full hero to you've been grinding and plus you've got your force already means you've got your
Catalyst charges, so you can just use your M plus gear to fill out your full hero tears as well
So yeah, it's definitely a little bit weird although to be fair, right?
I thought that only really applies to absolute
Degenerate sweats right like I think most players are still gonna be gonna. Oh, yeah
This is a massive drop massive pick up finishing up my hero tier set or even indeed finishing up your full set as
I think you need one piece this week because you've got two catalyst charges
And then another one if you get 2k or if you do her oak, of course
So you need one drop and then you can guarantee it maxing out your tears. Let's see if we get any loot here
Here we go. Yes, here we go. This is the most important part. It is
Well, two Trinkets, but I think we'd really be looking for the nap care.
But maybe some players still need that, some of our GLT classes need that, because I believe
that is a solid Trinket.
I'm thinking it's a very good Trinket in fact actually, on the classes that are looking
for it.
Mythic Pan for today, I think we'll maybe do some voice by Mythic Spits later on, but
I don't think we'll see any large, down ass Mythic today, but maybe see some Perot.
yes yes yes we may indeed we may indeed because of course you know like going into
heroic is not only for the loot at the end of the day right like mythic is the
level above heroic right so if you go into heroic you can practice to fight a
little bit without necessarily having to sink loads and loads of hours onto it
you can get used to the mechanics right there's gonna be some recurring things
like some of the mechanics will be there they'll maybe be more difficult more
punishing but ultimately you can get a feel for it right and so doing some
Heroic splits, we'll do some Heroic runs, right?
All the final two bosses.
I think it's gonna be really good.
And of course, it's gonna be data for the analysts too.
Like the analysts are gonna be able to look,
okay, what exactly is going on here?
What's the best way that we can handle this?
How do we think that mechanic is gonna look on Mythic?
Right, and then start to come up with some ideas,
some potential ideas about how to tackle those bosses.
So while the players are gonna be,
look at all those hunters, okay?
While the players are getting ready,
prepared themselves gearing up the analysts are going to be using the information from heroic and of course from looking at other guilds who are also going to be doing the same thing and
Conjuring up the strategies cooking the strats on how to approach the bosses on there
There's also some very good trinkets shot from the last year right or in that force. Yes
I think a lot of the deep gets and stuff like
I'm guessing they're gonna spit them to pull up on her
that's a pretty special one.
I believe it comes with two
sockets as well, which obviously
is a premium in the night.
And the there's also, I think a
neck that drops with two sockets
as that might also be valuable
for some players to see you can
pick that up. And yeah, there's
also just a variety of just very
robust trinkets and drop from
the last of us. You've got the
feather that drops. I think
that's pretty powerful from
Bellaron to so that's going to be looking to get picked up as well
So there's definitely something very very solid loot
It can be grabbed. Yep from the last two bosses. So yeah, don't be surprised
We are seeing plenty of her on the last two and honestly look you should be looking forward to that
It's quite the spectacular really epic fight
You know, I'm really looking forward to getting in there myself and checking it out
And look we can do that right now vicariously through the players as they do the same thing
So we're going for another split guys, let's see, is it going to be Boyz Modnific?
No, it's another heroic one dude.
Yeah it may well be, we can see a large group size here, I'm going to see if I can find
out how many correct splits we're going to do today.
I think, let's see if that's been said anywhere.
Let me ask that, hey dude, how are we doing today?
I mean, there is a message here that I'm reading.
We know we're going to spend the entire day doing heroic splits.
Oh, really?
The old writer probably the new writer, so we could be in trouble.
It might basically just be heroic splits.
No way.
Oh, yeah, hold on.
Yeah, just do this.
I mean, look, you love to see it.
We love to see it.
We are really putting in the effort,
making our characters as strong as they possibly
can be to push through and make it to the the mythic progress tomorrow yeah okay
then for the buckling buckling stream buckling chat and let's have some good
vibes or you do these first bits yeah yeah and look of course it's there's gonna
be mythic splits after this too so we're gonna do all these words but there's
gonna be mythic splits coming in as well because again we've got that fresh
reset fresh juicy reset so we've got all of our mythic runs to do once again
yep I think it's gonna be interesting to see actually if with the nerfs guild
even try to split paladins and of course it's one that we know was what
practice on obviously because of course you know we you know that wasn't split
last week because it was tuned really really crazily but there's still some
items there like the healer trinket I think it's an item that players might want
pick up going in there. So we'll have to see if that's actually going to be on the menu. I think
still definitely a harder boss that could potentially cause some problems. So you don't want to waste
too much time on it obviously and it demands like how much that upgrade is going to be worth.
But it'll be interesting to see like if that ends up getting attempted.
Yeah, I've got some news. I've got some news stream, right?
Oh, right. So this is last full HC voice bar into two HC allerias. Then we've got mythic
Chimeria splits and then into Chimeria's standing on loot.
Okay then. Alright, so we've got some mythic coming up.
We should at the end of our 30 minutes of Reckon Leicester bar cast, hopefully we'll get some mythic Kymus at least.
Nice, okay, at least a bit. Look, I think that's going to be the first mythic I've seen for quite a while, I think.
Well, actually, it's all blending together, but I have no idea. My brain is completely dissolved.
I think I was watching mythic yesterday, but it was voids bar splits. Okay, so I think I didn't see some of that
Wait, no, I think it was mythic plus. Yes. It was the day before I was watching
Yeah, it's fast split. So yeah, I I have no idea what's going on at this point
Like the only thing the only thing that can save me is the sweet embrace of mythic progression tomorrow
So we just have to we've got to we've got to make it through and get to that
I'm really surprised surprise. No American dude. I should just wait and
I think you would theoretically shoot up to the top of the leaderboard as well.
Glory glory there, you know, you got one pull in on boss number eight. It'd be pretty
I
Mean well
We'll have to see but yeah
I imagine a lot of the guilds that are kind of leaning in a more competitive direction of kind of doing the same thing
Right like they're gonna be getting their splits done
They're gonna be getting their gear their upgrades sorted out like before heading in there
But I'm sure we'll see some early birds leap into mythic
Yeah, at some point and to see how it is and that'll be interesting to see right like if we do actually have some kind of insight on
What that's gonna look like it's gonna be rather interesting to actually see how that you know see potentially what some of the tuning could be looking like
on mythic ballerine
It's gonna put you see how many kills you've been like fools for it last night
Let's take a look
Enough you can even see on here
I think it's a it's no joke. It's not definitely no joke of a heroic fight. It's rather challenging. I think they clearly ramped it up just a little bit
I see echo didn't admit a different plan to us actually they've gone straight into a mythic boys bar splits as you can see
So they're these two different plan to us right now
Okay, there was another Guild, XD.
XD.
XD.
XD.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Big Note 4 was welled first.
Okay, so I do three Guilds, I think.
They've killed me, don't fall as far right now.
It's a good Guild, man.
Yeah.
I'm guessing the second Guild must be Instant Dollars, but I can't see.
Oh, no.
Wait, there's actually quite a few Guilds.
There's five, I think, that have killed it.
Yeah.
I think that that kind of tracks. Yeah, it is it is heroic. It is it's not easy, but it's also decently approachable as well, like, especially if you're a very, very sweaty gills, you can get in there. You've got your good gear. You'll be able to figure it out. But yeah, it's it's good to see that it is actually proving to be a little bit of resistance, like even on heroic. I think that's like, you know, that's a very exciting omen for all of the players who are looking to have a really fun progression experience.
Yeah, but it gives obviously the less pro raiders. It gives them a nice chance to actually progress a Heroic Boss as well, because I guess for Midnight Falls, it's going to take quite a few falls through a guild that's not world first level, right?
Yeah.
So it is nice that they have that also, that Heroic Boss that they can progress as a guild. It always feels good to kill a boss that's actually hard, right? It doesn't feel as good just face rolling through the whole raid, within one raid, not even for the more casual guilds.
I feel like you get that sense of achievement when you kill a boss which is actually pushed you to the limit, right?
Absolutely, it's got to feel earned rather the game is going to be at least
stressing you out a little bit
It's gonna be pushing you to improve yourself and get better. Yeah, if the boss just falls over it really
It's just not fun. Yeah, it's not fun. It's too easy
Yeah, your your loot doesn't feel like you've earned it you feel you haven't put the work in
This is what I think M-plus is really fun because you can push yourself as far as you want
Yeah
You can still match your vote out now over 10 which is fairly easy
I said 10 this season a bit more easier than they were previous season will say
Which I think it's more personally for me
Which is who's a weekly logger that just does these weekly chores and and it's his vote item and that's it
I thought that's this fun for me because I can just log on play with pokes and they'll have to sweat too hard
and you know the people that actually would have gone home in keys they can and so I think that's where I'm plus gets that actually pretty
pretty spawned just
Yeah, I think it's pretty nice. I don't mind
I don't I really don't mind at all like the season being a little bit more
Relaxed in terms of being able to get that loot at the start because you say yeah, it's an infinitely scaling system
I don't know if you want to more of a challenge. Yeah, it's absolutely fine. I just keep going
Like you will be able to push
Forever, right? It's all and it's always push week these days, right? There's no affixes anymore
So yeah infinite push like you just keep going for all eternity and just keep playing more and more more
Yeah, I think it's completely fine
I think the players are really I think what some stats about like the key success rates going out there like
92% or something in the first week where I think usually it's more along the lines of
70% I think so definitely a much more chill opener until the season which I don't want at all
I
There's nothing really wrong with that. Yeah, I was free chesting like tens of pugs and that that normally never happens
Yeah, I'll week one. That's not easy. No, you're sprape in the barrel and you got like 20 seconds there
That's like a plus 10, but I thought yeah the scaling this this time round is a little bit more lenient, which is fine. I think
Yeah, it's all good
But what's also all good is this a rogues, but I'm excited about this rogues, but I feel
Great joy as we watch this
Comfortable look I want them to speed up so we can get some mythic chimeris. Let's go. Come on
Let's make it happen. We've got a nice one some allureus first as well, right?
I think there's some areas as well. It needs to get done. Yeah, but that'll be good
That'll be a nice little warm-up before we get to our mythic camera restaurants and look we have to chat
It is very important. Like we need to summon some of those trinkets, right?
Like I'm sure you've been looking for them in your own runs getting the gaze of the alms here
We need to summon it. Otherwise, it's not it's not gonna drop like if you don't at least
Attempt to summon the loot. It's gonna give you like three belts or something. I don't know can drop a belt
but it's giving me so many random items
that you just hate to see.
I've heard there are certain item slots
that even though obviously they are important
to gearing out your character,
you kind of just hate to see it when it drops.
When a cloak drops from a mythic rain boss,
it's like, oh man, that is just,
you hate to see it.
That is not what you want to see, Dropper.
You want to see some of those weapons.
You want to see some of those really spicy trinkets
that are dropping, but they have to drop from somewhere.
I mean, imagine how demoralized that must have been for the raiders yesterday.
They were doing plus sevens just to try to get sockets on item,
because they literally have everything that they need.
So the last thing that they had to try to do was find sockets on random proc pieces.
But imagine that, dude.
That is brutal.
That is awful. I was like, no way.
Imagine sitting in the end plus for 16 hours all day trying to find a socket on the braces or whatever.
But even when you see the item you want, it's not good enough,
because it hasn't got a socket or hasn't got a tertiary or whatever.
I mean, that is just, oof.
Yeah, that doesn't sound good to me.
That's not good.
That's a bit rough.
It's a little bit rough.
I think they had a nice break yesterday along meeting though.
So I guess they had a little bit of downtime
where they could just relax and listen to.
Not worry about sockets.
Not worry about sockets for a little while, yeah.
Oof.
Well, look, those are the lengths
that you have to go to, right?
You know, you've got to grab some of those gems.
I mean, what are they?
Like 20 extra stats, which, you know, is significant, right?
It's not like it's nothing.
you know, the socket is, it is a valuable thing if you get it as a drop, but it's got one of those things that's nice to get, like when you're not necessarily looking for it, right?
I imagine it's probably a lot less fun, a lot less exciting when you are literally farming plus sevens, you know, to try to get some of those things, like with just sheer RNG, not much fun, I think.
I can tell you now, if you had a 0.1% wipe on Midnight Falls, you wish you had them sockets.
That is true though, that is very, very true.
And that's what it's all about right like because it happens we've seen it happen
Yeah, you know like this is like a very real thing like having an incredibly low wipe like that it it's not only
It's not only possible
It's also almost likely in a way right like this type of thing like does happen like you know quite a bit like in these
Programming situations. I mean even even outside the race towards first. It's not like you know that happens
Like you see very low wipes. We've all been there. You have these low wipes and of course
I just had a little bit more gear because there's you know
There is a skill element there as well
You know if someone managed to pop off or just have like a better a better proc then that could help as well
But at the end of the day, you know, like that's why min-maxing every bit of gear
It's super important because it means that you have you lower the chance of being in one of those like really unfortunate scenarios
I mean, just to be fair, on the bench, the members of the Echo, the low wipes they had, right?
Echo literally lost well first due to like 0.2% HP.
Absolutely brutal.
And that must have felt awful.
When you actually go and actually look at what happened, I bet there would be some little mistakes here and there.
Obviously it always happened, but like that little min-max of play is actually what makes you win, right?
Of course, yeah, and you know, that's that's something that is it's going to keep you up at night potentially
It's brutal
But yeah
What you have to do is you have to you have to try and learn from it like try and improve and figure out how to
How to play how to find that min max next time right like how to be able to execute in the moment and obviously look that
That's very easy for us. They like just oh
Better guys
come on what are you doing yeah i'm pretty sure i could have been planning for 20 hours this
book because they were pushing on because they knew liquid was so close to their kill though
we have to keep playing. Yeah you can't sleep. If no one's going to sleep we're not, no one's
going to sleep for starters for one that happens because you just can be constantly thinking about
what they're doing and two you just kind of have to put all that prep in you just have to play for
it as long as you can possibly play. You have to descend it like you've got no choice that you've
you've got to just try and find a way to make it happen.
You're fighting your exhaustion,
but you just have to push through
until the boss finally dies.
Or of course, sometimes if your opponents
are able to pick up the kill as well.
Yeah.
Did no one pull better or mythical yet?
A question in chat, no.
I don't think anyone's pulled boss yet.
I think so.
Maybe if you see some of me, you could,
they like, fact-check us on some maybe guy, don't they?
Yeah, I'm sure that they'll be.
I mean, it's not really like the early mythic bosses, right?
Because, of course, you often see some guilds kind of leap in there and say,
you know what? It's time.
We're going to absolutely get in there and smash those early mythic bosses, right?
And you see, you know, I feel like melee mechanics always go for this, right?
They're always, like, getting in there and going for those early boss kills.
And of course, melee mechanics, an excellent guild as well.
You know, I'm not just saying that they're just memeing and just trolling.
They're incredibly good at the game.
like they performed very well on the warganks as well.
But they like to go in early.
But it's going to be easier said than done.
This is not a first boss.
This is, well, potentially, an ultimate boss, a bell around.
And you're not going to go in without getting your gear
in the right place first.
You're just not going to get anywhere
if you end up doing that.
I wonder if you would have gone in if they didn't increase
your level from this boss, because it would in theory
be easier.
So I'm guessing I want to make that as change the plans that they do these good
Well, yes, certainly I think the
Repositioning of the boss to be more of a penultimate boss is
Definitely gonna change the perspective. I imagine there might have been like a little dip in there
Look at the HP value maybe and see what it's looking like so it's you know
It's what once you see the HP value you can probably kind of have an idea of like, okay, right?
Like this is what we're dealing with. Yeah in terms of the feasibility of this fight
Especially seeing is like it's worth learning with Bella in a particular it has been tested on mythic, right?
Like so guilds ha oh, sorry. No, it was test on PTR rather. They have been tested on the PTR
So players have an idea of like the flow of the fight what it looks like mechanically kind of what the fight is asking you to do
So when you have the extra context of the numbers from
Seeing the HP values on the live servers
That's going to give you like a pretty solid idea of like what might be needed to get this done
So I think those factors are going to be what?
the guild uses to create a plan and then move forward with that plan.
Yeah, definitely work.
This is our last full voice via heroic split stream.
After this, we've got two alleria heroics to kill and then we're in for chimerous mythic splits.
Nice.
We've been you and updated.
Timeline of how it's going to go for this first morning shift we have.
Yeah, and I think that means we are we are we gonna make it on I'm only here for another hour
Yeah, same
Yeah, I think we just gonna see the two allures if you have my honest opinion
Yeah, it's it was next is gonna have to come as mythics. Yeah. Oh that in for a treat
Okay, this one takes what at 15 minutes. Do you think probably to the
Yeah, it's not like that. Yeah, it's not like that because you know allure is pretty lengthy as well
You get all the way to the end. You've got a leery in the end. It's going to take a while
We are on the third boss and I will say you know
I'm very impressed by the speed of the clearing of the trash right like you know
Everyone is just pushing forwards clearing it very very quickly
So I think you know
We have got these heroic splits down to a bit of a fine art at this point and of course the DPS is colossal on these bosses
At the same time so we are really burning through these splits very very quickly
But there's only so fast you can go right like you've got to clear the trash
You've got a lot from boss to boss, right? But you might have to do a reset as well here and there just you know
Just to get the cooldowns back and get the bloodlust debuff gone. So it's it's still time-consuming
It's not like you can just you know, just do it all in half an hour. That's just not how it works
No, definitely. Yeah, the speed is really good. That's it. Yeah, I'll stick from
And they've been planned for two hours 50 minutes now. I think so it's not bad. I mean
And, you know, that's, that's the, what is it, 30, just over five minutes to spin it.
That's correct.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
I have a very, very speedy indeed.
And well, look, that's what that's the speed we're going to need.
And like, if they keep up that pace, we might even see what's going to be really tight.
Even if they take, let's say another 20 minutes to complete this split or 25 minutes to complete
the split, like another two allerias after that, like we might barely see some mythic before
we have to go.
on how quick the uh the radius log over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure if they have
like a little more than break at some point, uh, 10 minute weather, but we'll have to see.
There's no luck. There's no breaks. Okay. We demand full gas. Yeah. We demand mythic
primary splits within specifically the next an hour and 10 minutes. Okay. Like that is what we
want. We don't have that. It's just it's not going to cut it. Right. Like the race towards first
is lost if we can't do that for sure. I guess how I know I'm getting destroyed. Actually,
um, actually, you know, if this possible a little bit on mythic, didn't they actually,
um, in little topics, which is interesting. I was surprised about that because it's,
I actually felt that it mechanically, it was like very, very fair, but they made these spikes
a little bit easier. Um, it takes a bit longer, um, from to cast the spikes now. So you can,
I guess, like have more time to get in the right spot and position and react to them.
So I was a little bit surprised about that because it didn't feel super unapproachable.
I think obviously you have to get used to it and figure it out and get a good feel for the position and get a good feel for the movement and so on.
But a very fun fight actually, this is one of the ones that an early boss, like and I know that we often, you don't often talk about the early bosses in the raid because like the real star of the show, really, you know, the real big star of the show are usually the last couple of bosses, right?
But I really like this one.
This is a really fun boss early on to do.
Like, you know, it's a fun one.
I think even on heroic and definitely on mythic as well.
It's a very enjoyable encounter.
It's always well done.
It's a lot of what I've been saying.
These bosses are actually fun to play.
They just move it too easy, right?
The whole idea of the bosses are pretty cool.
And I would say that the race boring to play.
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I would just say that the raid
was just a little bit too easy in the eye level
that the raiders managed to get is how it went.
Um
Look at this. We're even min-maxing. We're killing the boss near the door. So we can start running asp. I love that
I wonder if that was intentional like if we ask them, they'll definitely say yes
But like you have to check the other split mods to see if they were doing that as well
Like pulling it to the to the end. I mean like maybe I mean why not right? There's no reason not to
Save a couple of seconds mount up and then uh rush forwards to next the year towards the next boss
Do we get a trinket here? Which I think is actually rather good on the decent healer trinket to pick up
on the new bosses 34 no the graphic is the on the right the screen is actually how many
pools it was to kill a little bit of mythic. Yeah, there isn't actually any pools on the
new bosses. Yeah, they just split closer. So the leaderboards gonna be staying at seven
out of nine until guilds have a go at nothing, which is very likely to happen. I think at
some point later today, I think we'll see at least, you know, a couple of guilds go
It kind of depends on the other guild's plans though, as well, like you know, there's gonna be a lot of splits
Obviously like liquid's been doing a lot of splits and they may have more to do today as well
When they when they reawaken and reactivate so but to see I'm when we're gonna be seeing mythic
But I think it will definitely be probably within the next 24 hours
I would say is when we'll see a little bit of progress starting to happen
So the but I think they're worse than bugs. Well, this is a good call out here. Yeah,
this is true. I think like Laura was a bit bugged, right? I think some issues with the
end boss. Do you know what the issues were? Actually, I don't know what the actual problem
was. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't doubt it though. You know, it's it happens, right?
Like, yeah, they kept the order that they should be doing that or something. There was
something going on. Yeah. I
Like what do you expect like this is the end? This is the end like midnight wins Zalatath wins
It's a one-shot. You can't do anything. I don't know good unlucky guys. You hate to see it
Because look, you know normally we have eight bosses in a raid these days, so maybe the ninth is just impossible
So yeah, you cannot win like you can see you can look at the loot
You can enjoy the items that you could get but you're not getting them. They are it's impossible
Alright, here we are
Oh, can we get can we get guys can we
Get a quick pull timer going so we can get through this split. I want to see a little bit of mythic
I want to see some big juicy mythic
Gaze of the on seers drop from chimeris. We're not gonna see that unless we get to go get to work on these dragons
All right, here we go. Yep
Yep, well, well, well, do you think we're going to wipe to heroic veil goal?
Yeah, I don't think so.
No, it is the way you could probably lose half the rate.
Are we still? Yeah, this one is not not too crazy to deal with on her.
Like it was, you know, on week one, it was a little spicy, right?
Take this down on heroic.
But of course, we know the strats.
We've got the gear.
We're looking good.
Can someone explain the race to worlds first thing quickly? Oh, that's a great question
So basically what's going on is that there are new raid bosses
Coming out here in World of Warcraft and the race is on on who can clear them all
on mythic difficulty the hardest difficulty
First in the entire world. We have the best players
getting their gear
Preparing the strategies and progressing the bosses playing an ungodly amount of hours every day
in order to accomplish that
In order to accomplish that goal and you can see we've got seven of the bosses
Taken down already from our top guilds on the leaderboard and there's just two that remain
There's a bit different this time like normally all the bosses get released at the same time
But this time that's not the case as seven were released in the first week
And there's an extra two that are dropping well right now with this reason
So I've got dog cams.
Oh the dog is back.
He's back.
Dog.
What does the dog think of that?
What's the dog's perspective on the race world stuff?
What do you think?
He said it's a bit boring but he's going to have fun over the next few days.
Oh that's a good prediction.
He loved to hear that.
Get down.
It's funny.
Very good.
Okay, big DPS. Wow. I mean, it's interesting. This is one of those things that um is
I find this like a little bit strange almost with how progression works and how gearing works in this game
But you're just over time. You're just gonna see less and less of these fights, right? Because you're gonna get more and more damage
Uh more and more gear and you're just gonna melt through these bosses because like this is what the second week and we're already getting
Um these bosses below 50 percent on the first phase
right here. I mean, give us a couple of weeks, maybe a month. Do we actually know the situation
with like the, is there going to be a raid buff because there's no raid renown this time around.
But there are those NPCs. Has that actually been taught out what those do? There's a couple of
those NPCs, right? One in the Void Spire and one in the Dread. It says like more aid will be provided
in a certain amount of days. I'm assuming that's going to be some kind of raid buff that kind of
similar to what we saw in the previous two expanses, but they just didn't want to do a
renowned track this time around. So I think there may even be some kind of raid buff that comes into
play. I've got a good question for you. Do you like that the raids get nerfed so much from when
they first are released? Personally, no. No, I don't. If I had it my way, they would just basically
leave it alone. Um, because like, well, obviously, like, I'm not, I'm not going to be delusional
and say that, oh yeah, you know, I could, I could kill these bosses. I just do the race
first. Obviously not the case. Uh, but I'd love to have a go, right? Like, you know,
I would absolutely love to have a go at taking these, taking down these bosses kind of with
about the same gear that the race first players have about, you know, and we're an on nurse,
right? Like on the, the bosses in their original form. It's something that I do really appreciate
about the more the more modern approach though or not the more modern the more
recent approach I should say to redesign because when I started playing
they massacred bosses like when my first my first season that I played um
from start to finish was dragonflight season three and I thought this season
was almost notorious for this because they destroyed tindrel and ferrat it
wasn't just like a small nerf I always think it was almost unrecognizable
Like the versions that the race worlds first killed compared to the version that I killed you could scarcely even call it the same boss, right?
And like going on your own, okay, the bosses were brutal. Like it would have taken us. I'm not sure we would have killed them because we I was
Much more casual. It wouldn't have died, right?
Not in any kind of reasonable amount of time again. Like those two bosses were insane
On race worlds first level, but I would love to have had a had a go, right?
You know at least I had some kind of way to preserve that difficulty and I get why they do it, right?
Like you know, this is ultimately a seasonal game, right?
So it's season move on season move on I get that
But I would love it if especially for really special bosses that they kind of preserve them in some way
You know, if Final Fantasy does this with with the way that they handle ultimates right in that game
I would love it if that was
the game. So that you know, if
you wanted to go back and try
the big Dementious mythic
for right, mythic Jailer, right?
You can go back and try it. I
think that would be really
exciting. Really cool if you
could do that. But obviously
that simply isn't the case
right now. Maybe one day. Maybe
one day we can we can make that
happen. But oh, yeah, I mean, I
guess a good way they could
actually do that. If they
wouldn't have the casualty
killed the bosses and get the
like a teleport guard you speak to and he scales your eye level to roughly the eye level that
the guild has killed the bosses at at world first level so you can just go back as a raid group
you all click the mbc you get teleported into the raid on ferak and you you're scaled to a
serve eye level so the the raid boss is the same as basically how it was killed at race the world
first level yeah so you can feel actually how hard when it's hit and if you're absolutely
PSI level has been reduced by 0% on all AOE spells with double and it just doesn't feel
like the same boss. There's so many bosses that I've got absolutely masking it. I mean
it's like Nexus Queen of the Nexus lady in what range is it?
Tiberza, right? Yeah, you know, in palace, right?
That fight was insane, but then obviously it got absolutely nuked, so it was really
that you literally killed before even on the last bit of the fight even. Also a lot of
the others when you had so many bombs at the start and it was absolutely insane to jungle
like 14 or 16 bombs at the end compared to how other guilds killed it we say barely had
to jungle barely any bombs you only had half the bombs or I don't know how much they think
that was by even but yeah.
That would be fun. Maybe, maybe one day. I do get the idea that it's not something that
Blizzard really thinks about, but you know, you got to say it. Blizzard are clearly rethinking
some of the foundational ideas that the game has, right? Like it's, we're definitely thinking
about some new ideas in this version of World of Warcraft. So who knows? Maybe it's actually
not completely off the table to have some changes to how, you know, kind of legacy content
is handled or well I say legacy content I basically mean content that's older than like six months, right?
Like in the game how that's handle will be will be really cool. I mean, you know, yeah
I'm just gonna take a quick tour of great guys. I'll be back in one minute. It's over. We're alone chat
Fold me
But anyway, we are still here, of course
We are getting through these powders. I have to say it's gonna be fun to watch alliria like I even you know
like heroic Elyria still actually really fun in my opinion like I do like to see
that fight as well so we are gonna see that after this I believe before going
on to even more Elyria so like I've got my wish I guess we see a lot of Elyria
over the next couple of months before stepping into Kimura so I've got to say
the pace is looking really really good I think there's a decent chance that I do
get to see a little bit of mythic Chimera's which is also a pretty fun
fight you know I was feeling a little bit I wasn't feeling super good about the
fight on heroic it felt kind of low energy on heroic but I'll tell you what
like you know having a kick that is like I think less than a second or about a
second that if you don't get it like the entire group dies basically does make
things a little bit more exciting on that on that mythic difficulty we love
to see that so that's always gonna be good so we get to see that but before
we have to finish up these powders and wow this this is just getting absolutely
destroyed. The damage here is absolutely crazy. If you recall even in the early stages of progression
and early stages of the splits, this fight actually took a fair bit of time to actually
take these bosses down. But wow, we already have one of the paladins. We have the Retribution Paladin
about to just flop over dead just a couple of minutes into this encounter. We are completely
annihilating this fight. And yeah, I think we're probably going to have the general general Bellamy
destroyed before. Watch happens and watch happens and just ran off the door ultimate and then
is going to be completely, completely alone here having to face down an entire squad of angry
raiders. All in their own. Unlucky tank and DPS are dead. Only the healers left standing. Okay,
like I feel like that's a tales of his time on this one. But that's going to be the paladins
eliminated and on to the final encounter, everyone needs to be min-maxing their orb-clicking skills here to
summon the uh kind of like the little transport up to the last boss. Oh not the most exciting loop
ever but I think we're a couple of rings coming through there maybe they've got some good stats
for people. Welcome back. Um some rings which I think is okay. Yeah the rings are good,
the rings are good. Oh,
Oh, indestructible legs. Wow.
Wow. They've some got like,
I think it's so troll that they left that in.
You know, you can get or avoidance or speed,
all of which are pretty about right.
You're not going to be too unhappy about that.
You know, a little bit of extra avoidance, bit of leech.
That's a good time.
Even a bit of speed can be really good, right?
If you're kind of a, maybe a slower class, right?
So having that extra mobility is pretty impactful.
Can be.
Only if you have to pay show repairs, I'd say.
Yeah.
Indestructible because you think oh that could have been leech that could have been avoided
Oh, it could have been a socket right maybe if it's on a socketable item you give me indestructible are you kidding me?
Yeah, here we are in Illyria, this is gonna be the first of three I think so then you're doing this one than a two after that
Oh, it was it's honestly. It's kind of cool. I sure I love speed running
So it's a little bit it's got I know this is a minor detail
I can't love this because I didn't even think to do this. We were doing our own runs.
But yeah, you can just click the orb. And instead of taking the slow ride up, the cinematic route,
you can just go to the teleport and look at the teleport and you just go up immediately.
So we're even min-maxing to that level, which is pretty cool.
I also think isn't it just the funniest thing ever, by the way, that like pandaren is like the
optimal racial, has like the optimal racial abilities for a bunch of classes. I think it's
I love pandas. Yeah, I know is that is epic. We're going back to Warcraft 3 with Chen Stormstout being super OP in the Rex R campaign. We absolutely love to see that. I think mech anoma is also rather strong as well. So like the entire race is going to be populated by pandas and mech anomes. That is very idea.
all that kind of stuff. So but I do think we are likely and this isn't confirmed yet. So don't
worry. Like if we do get any updates, we will obviously let you guys know. But I think it's
pretty likely that we're going to be seeing some progression tomorrow, probably a little bit later
on tomorrow. As I think the morning is still going to be, you know, again, more gearing, more, you
know, more splits and so on. But yeah, after all of that, I think we're very likely to see some
progression tomorrow so don't go anywhere okay just keep watching keep watching the splits keep
preparing yourself. You will be entertained here okay like if you have questions if you maybe you
have answers too like you know I feel like we have you got any questions yeah you got any
answers either is right you got some of those yeah like we played in the mini games yep uh
two or have you not had them with your ships oh I don't think I've played the mini I think I've
I've seen people play them like, I've seen people play them.
Chat always wins.
Well, they outnumber us.
It's not fair.
It's too nearly.
Yeah, they always beat the classes.
I don't think I'll ever beat the chat.
And also, they probably cheat.
They're probably like putting it into.
They're probably putting into chat.
GPC.
Yeah, just asking the AI, getting that going.
OK.
I mean, wait, I wonder, wait, is there
an add-on that can like integrate AI into the game?
Like honestly, I don't want to tempt fate.
I don't want that anymore.
Like it's bad enough that every add-on is now
like co-author by Claude, right? I don't want any more of that. Okay. Keep my game pure
without the touch of the cursed machine.
What is your thoughts on the head-on situation that's happened? Have you got any thoughts
on that?
I think ultimately it was just a little bit rushed. I think broadly speaking, I'm pretty
much in favor of all the
change is right. Like, you know,
I think there's if it ends up
in a good spot, I felt there's
almost not much of a downside. I
feel like computational add-ons
are kind of dumb.
Realistically, like, you know, is
it isn't a good thing that an
add-on can tell you exactly
what to do? And I think I don't
think anyone would really say
yes, right? It's not good.
That's the case. However, like,
It's because a lot of things we got caught in the crossfire, right?
Because weak horrors, of course, did have this, you know, they had this really
nasty reputation, like, oh, weak horrors are playing the game for you.
But I think what Bill failed to realize is that 99.9% of weak horrors
are either UI customization.
So in other words, you can redesign your action bars or, you know, HP bar or
or any raid frames or whatever you want them to do, right?
And the other thing was just an extension of timers, right, because that and it's funny because I feel like this is really trick people up.
People are saying, oh, look, everyone's got the same add-ons they had before.
No, the add-ons that Blizzard wanted to get rid of, they did get rid of.
Like, you can't really do computational add-ons anymore.
But like, you know, I think you'll see, look at all the bars, look at all the timers.
Yeah, Blizzard didn't want to get rid of those.
Like, those are just timers.
just timers like when you see
when you see these here on the on this
chat right like we've got arrows
bait right this is kind of I think
what people thought of as we corers
but what is that?
That's just a timer. It's just a timer
like because if you look at big
which you're basically seeing the
same thing right like you're seeing
these timers and these
reminders in the middle of the screen
they're ultimately just a different
way of displaying that information
that's all that is really
so it's very very weird
It's been a lot of disruption, obviously.
You know, in a weird way, I would say
it's been pretty successful because, yeah,
Blizzard has more or less got rid of the stuff
they wanted to get rid of,
which is about like the 0.1% of adults they didn't like.
They don't work anymore.
And, you know, unless someone finds an exploit,
which obviously people always will,
like people will always find this like, you know,
I love the creativity as well.
I love it, you know?
Oh yeah, you can remove the evoker buff
signal to the add-on that something happened to you. That's hilarious to me that you could do stuff like that.
But, you know, at the end of the day, I think, you know, we do have to be a little bit critical and hold
Blizzard's feet to the fire here a bit. It was clearly a bit undercut, right? The fact that they
had to bend on a couple of things because it was making the job of the healer to be kind of annoying,
that's proof enough, okay, this is a bit undercut, right? They had to deprive at certain auras, which,
You know, I think it can't be understated led to a pretty undesirable outcome on the paladins. Yeah, because they had to do that because again, like healers were having a tough time looking at these
Dispells because they were a private aura initially same with the dread breath on veil Gronesra and because you can't filter those debuffs in any way, it led to some really frustrating gameplay, I think, for, of course,
You know one of the three roles in the game, you know DPS thing like I'm not looking at that that's healer's job
But if you're a healer then you know having to understand like what debuff the dispel who didn't spell it's gonna be tricky
So overall I would say it's I don't really have a problem with it
I think if anything it will probably improve the game. Hopefully surely theoretically, especially once all of the
the one's all of the tech debt basically gets tidied up because another thing that has been
really, really tough ultimately is that everyone's had to remake their UI, right?
That you've had this whole like absolute rip the bandaid off moment, particularly because
we corers stopped development, right?
And obviously that was something that was pretty much everyone was using, right?
That was almost like the go to, you know, someone says, Oh, I want to get a UI, so you
just go, Oh, just go download this pack, right?
go download this, go grab that, and then boom, job done.
You've got your UI immediately set up,
and that was very disruptive.
And ultimately, because I think we all really underestimate
how mature the add-on space was in terms of development,
like this was a very well-made project.
Like Weekoros was a very good piece of software.
It still is, you know, it still is, you know.
It, you know, it exists in classic and hell,
there are even a couple of sneaky versions
making their return in retail as well.
And that disruption means that all of a sudden,
well, maybe you want, maybe, well, for a start,
maybe the add-on that you're using now is a bit jank.
It's firing errors.
API changes are causing bugs and weirdness
and scuff stuff as well.
Maybe that add-on has like half the features you want,
but then you need this one for the other half.
And it feels a little bit clumsy early on.
Like the modularity that we corers have,
It really can't be under said how good we chorus was for customization because instead of having to install an add-on
But each part of you UI that you wanted to change you could add you could add a mini add-on
Right like it was teeny tiny little micro add-on that could just be on a unified platform. Oh nice trinkets
Okay, but yeah, I got I'm kind of nerding out here from the the software side
It really is like we chorus. It was a really really remarkable
Really remarkable piece of software
And it just allowed you to have this unprecedented level of flexibility and
Standardization like the standardization of UI was crazy because everyone was using basic the same tool now
Everyone's using different UI add-ons right?
I know this one like you know
There's a whole bunch that you can choose from that kind of sprung up here
And that means that you just don't have that level of interoperability which you had previously
With with week or is but don't worry. I'm sure it will be back
I very much expect that we are eventually going to end up in a similar position, but yeah
like the big thing I think that happened with the add-on change is the
Reset of the add-on development space to zero in terms of its maturity. So it will take a while for it to kind of reset
I think we're actually getting there already to be honest like it will get more and more standardized
As time goes on, but yeah, we're we're definitely getting there and I think that I'm really looking forward to see the the API
changes that Blizzard are looking to make when it comes to the aura filtering like that is the big one
they have to get this right because that's the one everything else i think is mostly pretty okay i
think that everyone's got their ui look i don't well i can't speak for everyone but for me personally
i basically got my ui looking exactly how it was pre midnight more or less um but obviously you know
i'm not everyone so don't you know don't don't shoot me okay i'm i i'm not saying it's perfect um
But it's just a couple of things that need to be ironed out. And if we're being honest, it would have been good to have that ready before midnight or, you know, to have it all done.
So I think we were a little bit behind schedule in that regard, which is unfortunate.
Oh, we've got a vault. This is the old vault you can sell.
Yeah, no mythic plus on this one. It hasn't got the trigger though, actually.
That trigger is good, right?
Yeah, that is very good.
But we do have some bad news.
I believe we already have that on this character
with leech, I think.
If I saw that from the mouseover, I could be mistaken.
So I think not super useful vault on this character.
Of course, you can always take the socket.
Like, ironically, the socket is not bad.
You can slap that on, you know, brace right of head item
if you get one to get a little bit more stats.
But yeah, obviously, picking up a really juicy trinket
can also be big,
but I believe it is already obtained on this character.
And I think it's the Lyria time right now.
I think we're just going to go back and do some more Lyrias if I'm not mistaken.
Two Lyrias, and then we've got Miphic Chimerias.
We might just get one Chimerias kill.
I think you are absolutely correct, because a Lyrias what?
Let's say it takes 10 minutes, including setup.
Well, maybe it's a little bit more matchy, because again, the boss is relatively long.
But you know, let's say 12 minutes, 15.
Yeah, two of those.
I think we might barely see a Miphic Chimerias.
It's pretty close. Yeah, form the groups in the nigger. Right. Next cast is
It's like I'm cursed from watching me. Yeah, it's going to be worse though. We're going to see them get in the group. They're going to be in the
Yeah, then they're going to say 10 minute break guys. Quick break. Yeah, it probably will happen.
It probably will happen because they're going to be spamming out Chimera splits. You want to have your break before you start, right?
You can see that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you don't want to break the rhythm, right? And when you have like a, you know, distinct
You know, a distinct break, right?
You're going from heroic into mythic.
That's a good point to take a block.
We're almost like tempting.
We're trying to summon the break at this point.
What do we do?
This is not what we want to do.
We want them to obliterate these two allerias
and then immediately get to work right on the mythic.
We're forming to the radar, Eddie.
Let's see.
Yeah, we are back in business already.
Getting in position.
I'm getting ready to pump, consuming up.
This is a bit of a rat. This is a proper alt here. This guy's 258. Really? This is a,
I don't think this is going to be a candidate for the main. I think at this point.
Probably boy he had the M plus in his vote. Is he probably just attack this character
off completely? Yeah.
I think this was a character that was just obviously going to be used early on. Yeah,
just to have a character in the splits. And then was, I guess like essentially written
off as not having a lot of potential early on. It's actually, it's crazy to think about
that's the case where like, ah, you know, cleared her on this guy, but it's not going to cut it.
Yeah, didn't get get a drop. So I can sign to the scrappy.
All right, so that's the most in Ross's, you are actually. Oh, yeah.
It's kind of hard to read those frames. Like the same as the cost guy. That's that's tough.
You can just tell when you see it deep. This is great frames. They just don't care.
Yeah. I mean, I always need to a little bit. Maybe it becomes more visible if someone's
dead because obviously if you're a warlock you might be concerned about getting the combat res
so maybe it's more readable than that but yeah certainly a little bit tricky to read as of right
now but at the end of the day i think it's also worth noting that the UI is deeply personal like
maybe this is just this is just readable maybe it is i hope this the he's note which is onto the
brookly screen i hope that there's not overlap he's just me yeah that is a bit criminal i will
Yeah. That is completely illegal.
It overlapped, it also has overlapping with like the top DPS as well.
That is fully illegal.
And the blackboard is also fully legal.
Like why not make it so you can still see the point of the note
in case you actually need to see something there?
Yeah, maybe we need to do that.
We need to do UI review of all the raiders.
And what is going on the top right is
well, like the buffs are overlapping with the minimap buttons.
That's crazy.
I mean, we've got some, like little like system info like latency and CPU percentage, but it's overlapping with but how do you read that?
Look how small is Rayframed on that, they got the 30 man.
Yeah, they got the 30 man.
Honestly, they might as well not be there.
Well, actually, I think, oh, yeah, I wrote, this was epic.
I think, I was watching Dorky do Mythic Demensius on Death Knight.
He didn't even have raid frames enabled. That's based. That is actually high tier. Yeah
I need to see that. Yeah, although the only person I care about being dead is me. Okay
It doesn't matter. Not my problem
All right, looks like we're just getting our last player summoned into the raid
And we are going. Whoa. This downtime has me a little bit worried though. Like it's been a, you know
We need to pull now if we want to make this happen.
Come on.
Go.
Go, go, go, go, go.
Go, go, go, go, go.
Come on.
It's getting the buff.
There's the full 10.
Pull 10.
You're missing the Charmin buff.
There we go.
We've used the Charmin buff for the last second.
Here we go. Obviously not going to be super difficult here. You know, I, you know, I'm not, it's not mythic anymore.
I'm not anticipating that to be any major issue. So, and you know, it's interesting. I feel like heroka lyria, it was definitely challenging week one.
Right. It was, it was, it was kind of owning people, right? Like, you know, even very, very strong groups were having some issues with, with the DPS check and so on.
But I think it is a fight that's very gear sensitive, right? Like as you get more gear, it's going to get a lot easier because you're going to be able
survive that damage output when the null expulsions are going off here. You aren't going to run
into issues with the DPS check nearly as much. So yeah, I think that this this fight is like
much more accessible now, right? Then even it was certainly more than the first week for sure.
I'm really intrigued if they're going to split Paladins this time around with the nerfs to the
disperse. Obviously we saw them splitting five out of Nine Mythic, right? Last week.
I wonder if they add Paladins on to the split, uh, voice bar, if it's the stuff.
I think it's possible. Um, obviously, you know, the, the analysts will have an idea of how to do that.
But given that, um, I think the fight is quite a bit easier now, um, with the nerfs of the damage
and also the number of the spells going back to the original value, it's definitely a possibility
that it could be done. Like if, um, again, it is a fight that hasn't been practiced as much, right?
I think it's potentially within reach. Like if I think it could happen for sure and get a lyric it does on mythic this week
Illyria, I don't think so. No, I think it's just paladins
Paladins got some some pretty major nerfs and yeah, I think a minor nerf to nexus king as well. Uh-huh
But other than that, the raid is, it is where it is, but you know, and look, they've, again,
they've tried to kind of slightly rearrange it, right?
And look, it's interesting, like in retrospect, this could end up working out really well.
Like if Illyria is just, oh yeah, this is just the sixth boss in the raid, right?
And the seventh boss, or rather, you know, the ultimate boss, rather I should say, is
actually bell run and honestly the overall range difficulty curve looks pretty good. It just means
that alleria is like a weirdly cinematic seventh boss i guess. You're just strangely cinematic
i would like a little bit longer than usual but you know not necessarily needing to be the most
challenging so we'll have to see how like how well that comes true. I think alleria is not an easy
boss for a gilded that hasn't got this much eye level though. I feel like alleria can actually be
a bit of a challenge for the guilds which have not got to seven one eye level right now. Oh yeah
Yeah, I think for guilds outside of the the very very best that you are gonna see some higher pool counts
You can see that start to be reflected here as you know fat shark
Yes, and instant dollars having 54 method having some I think a little bit more difficulty than we want with 53
Compared to liquid echo with 34 and 21 respectively and yeah, like I think like as you proceed
This is like it is just a testament to like the level of the race worlds first
but I think for basically every guild in the game, Aliyah is going to be a very solid challenge.
Like it's not going to be easy. You know, we're here, you know, we're on the castings and we're
saying, oh yeah, a little bit easy. You know, this boss really, it's not very difficult. Whereas,
meanwhile, I think, you know, for basically all of us and certainly for players outside of the,
you know, the top 10, top 20, this boss will be a very respectable challenge.
Yeah, definitely. At least 100 pulls, I think, for most guilds.
Oh for sure. Yeah. Yeah, which is you know, that's that's very
Yeah, that's not bad at all. I think a hundred pulls out of the boss. That's a very respectable challenge
Yeah, you're gonna feel a sense of achievement for killing that boss at least. Yeah, which is what you want. I never sang
Yeah
Oh, wow, this process is getting nuked though. Goodness me. This is absolute destruction
We're gonna be going on to the final phase very very soon. We're almost only doing like a tiny
We're not even we're almost not even crossing over to the next segment. We are gonna
It is crazy how much loot does make this game so much easier, right?
Yeah, yeah.
This is why I feel like business don't really need to nerf bosses so much, because just
gear acquisition over many raid weeks, you're just going to be getting so much more overpowered
than what you were when you first started the raid, like it's just a natural nerf to
the boss anyway.
Yeah.
Oh, we need to do the full damage, holy.
Yeah, the full.
We actually do lose people with the full damage.
Yeah, I think we're a couple of deaths.
Yeah, we're still going into that.
We're just not going to see these Rage Frazier, but we have at least two dead I think.
Yeah, we've got our friends going out.
Not too much of a problem I think at the end of the day, I think it's going to cause issues.
But yeah, do need to probably get a combat res going, just make sure everything's fine.
But yeah, we've got everyone, most people still alive here.
And yeah, the DPS is so high that, you know, obviously early on having a couple of dead players here would be a little bit scary.
But I think not going to be too much of a problem.
Is there any progress on Mythic 8 boss? No, not yet. No kills have actually pulled
Valorant Mythic. We have to see a lot of bits from the guilds and a couple of heroic Valorant
and Midnight Fall kills, that's all what we've seen so far.
Yup, and don't worry, we're going to be getting to that a little bit later. Maybe some Mythic
Chimeris coming up as well, but I think today is going to be splits. So if you want to see
mythic progression you need to keep watching this stream and then watch it all the way through till
around
This time tomorrow plus another six hours or so probably. Um, so yeah, stay tuned
Yes, stay tuned guys
We will have some content for you soon. I am sure
Oh, yes
It's a mythic content that is sorry mythic content. Look, it's gotta be worth the weight as well mythic lura mythic midnight fools
I think already proving to be quite likely a significant challenge. Well, look, I almost don't want to curse
We need to stop saying this. You know, the boss is gonna be easy. It's probably dead in 10 pulls maximum
Okay, it's it's gonna be a joke race to worlds first year
Then that's gonna make it at the most horrible demonic boss of all time if the reverse cast occurs the race to worlds first
So people got 30 minutes. We've got one more of your IQ and 24%
I think we will, yeah, I think we will, because if we move quickly, let's assume 15 minutes
for the next delirium, which I think is reasonable, and that's very, very doable.
And then straight into Mythic Chimeris, like maybe a couple of minutes to set the group
up, right?
Not taking a break, obviously, we're just completely staying on the grind, staying on
the pace.
Yeah, yeah, I believe, I'm definitely believing.
surely yeah surely it's I know they take a break out of these big kills
that's no no no I haven't seen a single break they've been planning for four
we are locked in like if we take a break it's gonna break the rhythm we're gonna
lock out okay the opposite of being locked in we're going straight into that
mythic cameras 100% I guarantee it I believe you there just a couple percent
here let's see we get any of these exciting item drops that we're looking
I think neck and trinkets is kind of the the really really big stuff that we want. Yeah, in particular the neck right because of course you have that
It comes in at that super high level collect the ring on them
The the emboss on Lura as well. See okay here. We go
They're a little fade to black moment before we pop up screen. Yeah
Okay, right what we got oh
Oh, oh, I can't see. It's just, yeah, I don't think we're, I don't think we're super excited about that. It's weapons and belts.
We're talking about this, like, when you hate to see a belt, like, that is just, that is just not what we want.
Anything that, yeah, you just want trinkets. Trinkets and like rings and stuff are really AP, really.
really. Yeah. Things that you
really show to get on from M
Plus and just give you more
trigger options. Yeah, so I
think it's a little disappointing
run there. But don't worry.
Look, we've got all these
warlocks guys. We got plenty
more. Oh, even going to another
account here. Actually, look,
so it's not just those who got
even more warlocks about to
already logging in. Let's see
what have we got on this
account. I can tell you that.
Oh, yeah. Oh, look at that.
A full set of warlocks are
prepared here. I don't know.
Absolutely lovely. I did not
miss my load screen. It's not
this anymore. I'll tell you
that. That's what my load screen
is. That's what my it's a lot
Okay, we've got 28 minutes on the clock for a heroic Elyria and a mythic Chimera is like that sounds pretty reasonable
Let's go let's go
Loading screen is proceeding we're in
The note is in a more
Position this time around on this character
It is not overlapping with what are you okay?
here's what do you make about the DPS meter being kind of like randomly aligned that is also
right yeah this guy's you know you guys you guys doesn't make your good plan goes into a certain
extent unless obviously you have a really curse you know but there's just simple things you can do
to you always make it look a bit pretty at least it's clearly not a concern for us it is all
It is all about the function if it gets the job done. That is enough to perform at this level
Hi method is trying to steal in the raiding team. Yes, he is but he is expecting a
Child so he's not rating this here. What a casual. It's leveling up in the real world instead of the game
It did help with spits though guys he did actually he was a big partner
and help them mess with the spits before the race come out,
but they just obviously risk hearing off one of his DHS
because he might not be playing right.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
And look, let's be serious.
These things are obviously gonna always come first.
Very, very wholesome.
And of course, a big congratulations as well.
Congratulations very much in order to Fragments.
Exclamation mark, we even got a command thread.
Check that out.
Alright, we're already loading in. We're in position. A couple of players missing. But
I'm feeling optimistic. I think that run was pretty quick. That kill was pretty quick.
So as long as we get in ASAP, I think we should be good to go on that, uh, with the Camaris.
Let's get the summers out, guys. Come on, no one's chicken the waterfall. Come on. Let's
Yeah, it's not even up yet, it's actually, the stone's not even here yet, come on, let's go!
Eat your food, start clicking, start selling.
Dude, it's still not, no one's clicking it, no one's clicking it, I wanna click on the screen.
That's actually, yeah, look, everyone's just, I mean, everyone's just, you gotta get the food bar if everyone's AFK.
I guess we're not full yet, so it's not super urgent.
Well, it's super, yeah, actually, you can actually get food bars while it's clicking some of those.
Oh, yeah.
That's why it's good to put them together like that.
That's actually it. That's a that's tech that is good. That's a big time save big look if you're running 10 splits like you're gonna
If the that sounds like a situation that you are gonna be in yeah, we definitely made that happen
And now we have got the summons starting to go
So what an extra player though
Who is missing who is slacking who's gonna afk?
Someone's took an early break and just made it without suffering it
Ray check going out wait. I mean what if we're gonna go 29 I'm actually done. I don't know
Not a problem here we go. I'm glad just waiting for the last player
They will be somebody. Oh, there we go. Oh
Well, yawn, not because of the content, it's a little bit early, you know.
Do you like get up early, Tifa? Are you an early, early browser?
I kind of am, yeah, yeah. I mean, sometimes I do go a little bit, do a little, de-gen some late nights,
but actually like, I prefer, I prefer to be up, um, in the morning. I used to, I used to get up
super early to swim, actually. Those days it brings back memories. Yeah, it was like 5 a.m.
I mean, it was like a five a.m starts for swimming. It was a it was content. Okay. It was definitely an experience to do that. It was fun. I don't I regret not even a single moment of it, but it was really, really intense. And I guess that's kind of giving me a I guess I got a learned preference, I guess, for being up a little earlier. I like to get up early in the morning, get some stuff done.
I think it's a flop over. And
then rinse repeat. Yeah. Uh huh.
Okay. Assuming our final player
and let's get to work. Who is
this? Like, oh, who is it? Oh,
I think it's an evoker. I think
it's Shelly. Shelly. Yeah, I
think it's hard to read the
friends. I think I see an ass
the start of the name. Yeah.
I feel like we're getting hard to see a mythic split of a boss that was killed like nearly a week ago.
This year a week, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
That's how sad the content actually is right now that we are.
We are praying for a mythic boss that's been killed by about 50 kills at the start.
Well, I mean, that's the thing, of course, it had its own Hall of Fame, right?
Cameras. I think it's, I don't know the exact number, but I think it's been killed by hundreds of guilds at this point actually.
at this point actually. I think because the Hall of Fame closed in the first week, in the first
week. Is it 200 guilds of Hall of Fame or is it 100 or whatever though? 200, yes. I think it used
to be 100 on each region or each faction or something, but now it's 200 just globally.
And yeah, I don't know exactly how many guilds have killed Camaros, but it's quite a few
at this point. Yeah, Hall of Fame is already gone, so if you want to know. Yeah, that's crazy,
So if you actually have to work, I think people that should have to work like Mr.
Lucas.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
And also that happened with the, I was just kind of hyped to go for the Delve boss.
Yeah.
The hall of fame was closed before I even woke up.
What?
What happened there?
Well, I guess I know for next time.
Set your alarm.
What I was just saying is that you snooze you lose or something like that.
Yeah, you snooze you lose.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's closed very, very early.
I think perhaps a little bit earlier than Blizzard was expecting. Yeah. But yeah, this was the one season because normally I kind of give and I say, OK, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get up at 5am and slam keys all day.
But this year, I've various, no, I'm casting the race worlds first. I'm not ruined. I'm not going crazy. I'm not just going to drain myself of life. Right. Um, before, before I have to actually cast and play the game and actually be a real human as well at the same time.
And the one time I do that is the one time where it actually matters, right?
Unbelievable unbelievable must be really fun. There's possible because you can just leave the important as well
There's such a nice feeling that show you can do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
I think shadow priests can also do it super. Oh, wow. Look at look. Yeah, look at the
Yeah, I think having some fun there
With a little bit of shadow priest action. We love to see that but yeah
I think whenever you have that fight that really enables your class right like warlock being able to hit those two targets
Super efficiently at the same time with havoc is I think it was gonna be a really really good feeling
I went when you have when the fight lines up with your damage profile. That's it's chef's kiss. You love
Yeah, yeah, it's this
T put the streets at 10 p.m. Locking old man is what they say that that is kind of true
I'm turning said like I'm don't stay up as late as I used to especially not now. Yeah, that's that's one of my healers
Who's flaming me? Oh is it?
Who's are doing rating with us here that is that is right?
And yeah, it is it has actually been really intense like you know, because I've been streaming myself a little bit right doing a mythic
I'm kind of organizing stuff as best I can for the guild and casting as well
It's like super intense and I'm told that I'm trying to trying to stay alive as well and actually exist as a proper human
So it's pretty intense
To do all of that. So yeah, I'm I'm pretty tired, right?
I'm really enjoying the race worlds first as usual obviously and it's been a really fun start to the tier as well in terms of
My my own rating in my own gameplay except for the fact that nothing from M plus drops to me
That's not fun. Yeah, I have 50 keys this week. I didn't get I didn't get I only drop one
Well, I dropped zero rings this week. I'm not joking but zero the only ring I got was mercy from someone
I was playing with okay, I begs for the ring. Okay, you can I'm feeling bad for you
Okay, you can have this and I cannot get another it's not like I've been doing Dungeons of No Rings
I've been like doing a million seat of the triumvirates and it doesn't exist. It is literally fictional
It is a fantasy. It is a dream. It's the dream rift. In fact is what it is
unbelievable. It really sucks your real weight in 40 drops in the in the in the chest at the end.
Crazy. Absolutely unbelievable. How of this run? Looking very believable. Looking very good.
Let's see what's the time 19 minutes. Oh, okay. Come on. If they don't do a mythic
rid, then surely they can do it. Surely we can get a mythic camera.
But that should might let us cast to the end of the timer. That's a mythic kill, right?
If they fall, it goes over our time. Maybe we can have a look.
It's possible. It's possible.
Oh, there's a spot stop us to help you.
Oh, guys.
The moment it's actually going to be the pool timer is going to be the hotspot timer.
It's going to be 10, 9, and then Paul goes.
That's it.
I think my class tomorrow is in the evening.
So maybe I'll actually get lucky tomorrow.
Yeah, let's see.
I wonder if it's going to be splits for me again.
again. It actually, as much as I hate to say it, it actually might be. Let's see. When is it tomorrow?
Oh, you know, I'm early morning again, actually. I'm early morning once again, a little, I think a
little bit later. Oh, no, no, no, same time, actually. Same time. Yeah, you might be able to see
some midnight full splits, at least, which is a bit more exciting, right? Because we haven't seen
that much, but a little bit more, a little bit more content. We're definitely getting there.
And see, do I have any evenings? Okay. Yeah. Oh, I might have some good timing here,
actually. Oh, wait, no, I need I need the boss to survive. Okay, until Sunday. Okay, like
that's what we need. That's what I have a little bit of a little bit of a tie. Yeah,
that is going to be tight, actually. I do have some pretty, pretty long morning shifts
as well. And that'll be deep in the progression. Like on, yeah, on Saturday and Friday, I've
got some longer time. It's all I'm on the morning. Like the production knows that I'm
an enjoyer of getting up, being active and doing stuff in the early morning. That's
I've been assigned the morning crew the morning crew. I'm basically the alarm clock for the viewers
I guess I'm here to wake all you guys up and be full of energy ready to go
All of the long day ahead of us
You can have a long day ahead of us. Say guys. There's a lot a lot of raiding, but uh, yeah
Okay, and here we are just in this final phase everyone's alive this time no falling damage deaths always funny to see when that happens
I will admit
But we're just looking good
Little bit of mythic after this
We are very wise we have great wisdom and we will share it with you
here on the Race to Worlds first cast.
Oh, look at the DPS here.
This is actually so remarkable,
because if the viewers recall,
like on the first week of this,
even in Race to Worlds first, in our split runs,
it was close, right?
We were essentially killing it,
you know, a little bit before the enragement,
five seconds before the enrage essentially on this boss.
And now it's looking like we're gonna be
very close to getting it killed,
before we've even had to do two jumps, right?
onto two of these platforms here. It's gonna be very very low because it's 20 seconds left before
we have to go to the next platform but I think it's very likely to be sub 10%. I don't think it
will die, it will just barely survive I think before we get that final burn phase but wow you
can really see the difference that the week makes here like it is not even going to be
most. Look at that shadow priest dude. Shadow priest absolutely pumped all this right. Yeah yeah I
think I mean shadow priest I mean it got buffed this reset as well I think particularly to its AOE
If I'm not mistaken, I think some of the estimates I saw in the in the wow head post were about 10% 8 to 10%
I think in terms of aoe so obviously absolutely
Cranking in these kind of multi-target scenarios obviously a lot of padding can get done on the first phase to
Especially if you got loads of but you got all the slimes stacked up on one of the bosses
Right and the boss is taking infinite more damage from you and all the slimes are getting destroyed too
So lots of damage to be done there and well look at that boom that is done
on. Boss is down, Mithic Chimeras is up next.
We've got 14 minutes left, T-Bot. Can we do it?
Oh, come on.
It's gonna be so good.
It's gonna be too sorry.
Imagine if, if he said, you know what, let's watch the cutscene.
You know, I just really wanted to see that cutscene.
Oh, that trinket.
Yeah, trinket's nice, yeah. Trinket pick up.
That's very much what we're looking for. Obviously not going to this character, this is a .257
Warlock, so not gonna be a main by any chance of the imagination, but I'm sure that someone
will be able to make very, very good use of that Locust Walkers ribbon.
I think effects like the one that has are always fun.
Ones that kind of ramp up through the fight, like they get stronger and stronger and stronger.
I think some of that's really, really cool because of course, that one gives you like an intellect buff.
But every time it happens, it gets stronger and stronger, stacking up to 10 times.
And that's really fun.
I think one of my favorite trinkets was the the pocket anvil, like the elementian pocket anvil from
Aberus, because it was like a trinket that you could use in Mythic Plus and you it dropped off in combat.
But you could kind of maintain it by using it appropriately to kind of chain it between packs
You have this massive damage increase that would you be able to maintain throughout the entire right the entire key
Which is also really fun. I think stuff like that is also really entertaining as well
Yeah, definitely. We have two good classes that we're taking in safe hands. Next I got dark mecha
I answered dark mecha in a long time actually on the card. Oh, yeah
So you'll be a good house once me as teapot finish the mornership
Yeah, Darkbeck. I haven't seen him in a while. She's always good vibes for the method and it's a good old Aussie boy
Yeah, 100% you will be very much incapable hands for the the upcoming Chimera splits
The only question remains will we actually make it into that split before our time is up
I wish that the mystic splits take longer to build as though because they'd have to talk about things
All the pool would just make sure things are signed.
Yeah, get all the assigns, yeah, all the assigns and all the groups and stuff.
Cameras to be fair, not the most complex boss in terms of the assigns.
So, you know, I'm coping.
I'm coping, coping, coping, coping.
We're going to see that mythic boss.
We're currently AFK.
Yeah, I'm hoping for Ross is not in the best fit.
Yeah, surely, Mitt Ross is just not in it, right?
Well, and that might be the case.
We can see, to be fair, a lot of the raiders have already logged off, right?
And they're going to be going to a different character.
Oh, utilizing the catalyst hit.
especially pick up, that's a slightly better item.
Of course, very accessible.
You can use a lot of these catalyst charges
because you just farm them, right?
And when you're doing loads of key, doing loads of raids,
able to upgrade that pretty quick.
Don't think this is a main either, right?
This is a 266 character.
That's much lower than we'd expect for a main at this point.
So, but you know, still decent gear, right, 266.
And to be fair, like, you know,
you probably don't want to be going into mythic chimeras
with below like 265.
I think that's where you kind of want to be.
to get that done because you know it is mythic right so the numbers are a bit
higher you do want to have some half decent gear just to make sure that
you're able to consistently one-shot all these bosses in the mythic splits
and I think this is the group kind of building here other looks of it it's
already half complete we're looking good this would be a great time to go to the
raid and start clearing the trash.
This is a reference liquid killed by most people 266 11 average in the group.
Yeah.
Echo 264.
Yeah.
266 is roughly what they killed last week anyway.
Yup, yup, yup, yup, yup.
So probably one around that.
Obviously the mains are going to carry a fair bit because they're all going to be
pretty juiced up at this point.
They'll be very, very strong characters.
But yeah, you still want to have some decent gear on these ults.
Just a middle, a vault, a shield actually.
Definitely a nice, there's a high level to pick up, right?
Like, you know, getting a shield, obviously this is a warrior here.
So being able to pick that up is super nice.
It's obviously really important to the mitigation of a tank.
If you can use a shield, you want to get that extra armor, extra block value.
Oh, super useful, especially on the prop warrior, right?
Prop warrior loves that high block value because you have 100% block
while you've got shield block.
Yep.
Also, not a super high level character though.
I think I saw 266 there if I'm not mistaken.
What do you craft in this team up?
Well, I just crafted weapons, right?
Because I'm not getting those for a while.
So I have crafted weapon and shield as well.
But I think like true this is boots or something.
I think is what you end up with.
That's just, I guess, the way the atomization goes
as you end up with boots.
And then I think the ring is pretty good too.
Like the special ring that has the clock on it.
was it like the like lower speakers ring or something like that? I think it's rather strong.
But yeah, I'm sure it does vary a little bit depending on, oh, this guy's got the ring.
This guy has both of the rings I want. Okay, I don't like, I don't like this. I don't like looking
at this guy anymore. And the trinket as well. What is this? Okay, unbelievable. I don't like
looking at this. I hate this. Okay, yeah, band of the triumvirate and I think the crete haste ring
from Nexus Point and Gaze of the Omsia, what is going on?
But anyway, I think-
We have a question, when does the raid continue?
The raid is going to continue in Mythic Climberos any minute now, I think.
But you're not going to see no Mythic, Elorin, or Midnight Falls or anything for a few days,
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I don't I don't know why but my twitch chat is like bugging out right now. I can't I'm trying to load it and I just I
Can't see it. I don't know what what's up with that, but yeah, that's probably some good stuff
I can only see it on our little secret stream feed, but I can't load it myself. I don't know why it's being
Yeah, actually, but I guess we'll wait for that split while before you tried to derail my amazing
Like wait, do you have any insight on what's going on on?
Oh
They're not showing there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Try to keep it locked down a bit.
That's understandable, right?
It's like...
They got Belarion to 28% and then they died.
But obviously that's any phase one, right?
Obviously they...
Yeah, you have the egg phase, right?
Yeah.
I assume that's the boss phase rather than the egg phase, I guess,
is what they're playing?
Yeah, and then here we just blew up.
I'm not sure what to do, but yeah.
Yeah.
What's interesting is, we're looking at...
Oh, I'm just taking a little bit of a sneak preview of the comp.
I'm seeing four hunters.
Yep.
Four hunters, three mages.
Yeah.
That is quite something. They got our unholy death knight in there as well, of course, and yeah, it's pretty interesting at least to see that. So look, it's a good thing we've got all those hunters geared up for paladins, right? We might be seeing those get used again. That's for sure.
I think we are not going to be able to deprive dark mech and shake and the pleasure of casting
the opening myth experts.
So I think we're just going to be here for a couple more minutes while our group gets
prepared and gets ready.
So we get to hand over right as some of this mythic action starts.
We start looking towards some of that super juicy loot. Okay picking up hopefully look
I have seen wait has there been a run on nithic where three
Gays of the on tiers of the only I think two because I this this was very lucky
I admit that my group soaring in our splits
Triple on heroic and a triple on normal as well
So I we did get pretty lucky with this trigger. We saw quite a few doubles, too
So we did luck out quite a bit. We got punished though on the void spire
I think we basically we saw way too many tank trinkets from the dragon versus the mastery trinket like the castle trinket
From the dragon so that's you know, it all balances out I suppose but with any luck
We're gonna see some very good RNG here pick up some of these massive trinkets
for
For method especially as the hunters of the Kp. I think that trinkets quite good for the hunters
So yeah, you can leave these yeah, yeah, yeah, and well, that's of course, you know again
This is an important part of the race is like kind of observing
Observing what's going on right and like seeing okay?
What's this looking like like what can we do like absorbing any sneaky little bits of strategy that we possibly can?
At the same time, and yeah
Well, of course I have to say I'm really excited to see method have a go at this and who knows maybe you know if you know
Echo's getting to work on that maybe that's gonna prompt method to also want to have a go and get a little bit of a feel for it
Maybe it looks killable. Maybe it doesn't look killable
you know, in the, you know,
depending on the pool count,
like how the progression ends up going,
could be a very interesting dynamic
of the race.
Yeah, really excited to see Guilds already
venturing forth into that encounter.
Definitely, yeah.
Yeah, we're leaving you with good powers,
got shaken and Darkmech half into two minutes, guys.
Our Aussie friend that we haven't seen much of,
so hopefully we get to get hype
of Darkmech during the stream.
Absolutely, absolutely.
absolutely absolutely it's always good to have some variety you know as much as i would like to cast for the entire stream and just do yeah just do 12 hours straight 16 hours straight i think that'd be a little bit selfish right you know i'm not i wouldn't do that to our wonderful wonderful incredible uh hosts we're gonna be joining us in a couple of moments and i think it's rather funny actually we're but it the scenario that you described is literally happening okay because and yeah we i think we are gonna be stepping out maybe
even a little bit early because we're gonna be falling we're gonna be falling very brave there
they were just doing a couple of uh oh we're doing pull 10 right that's it sorry bye bye see you guys
do an extreme shake it a dark back take it away go go go go go go
gamers chat what's up welcome back to the race to world first day seven there's 11 guilds on seven
of nine. We're staring down the barrel of perhaps the most unique race to world first
we have ever seen. We're here to take you through the next few hours. My name is Dark
Bec and I'm joined by a man that does things in MS Paint that Da Vinci can only do with
a brush. An X method radar, no flame, shaken. How we doing man?
I'm doing great. I'm so happy that you're back. You know?
I'm so happy that I'm back I've I've been I've been hanging I've been hanging
I've been watching this race champion at the bit to get in and there's I mean
something's still alive so it's okay it's been it's been weird though it's been
a weird race it's been a weird race and I got lots to talk about as we like as we
dive into this because I've just been loading up
Yeah, I mean it's been a weird race like you're saying, I mean if you've been watching I'm
sure you've seen a splitter too maybe, I don't know.
I mean I've seen a split here and there, what I am blown away with is the fact that we have
mythic splits.
I mean the raid's been set up that way in the release of three segments where that's
been enabled but it's I never thought it would come to this you know I never I
never thought we would do normal splits, heroic splits and then be staring down
the barrel of mythic splits and I didn't think it would even get kind of triggered
off the fact that I think it was world they were world six last year I'm not
sure where they are in the leaderboard at the moment they might be six or seven
but advanced we're actually killing Khymerus which we're on right now got
to 3% and we were like holy shit this is easy everyone bail we can come back and split this and
then it's just kind of like snowballed off and obviously you know liquid aqua and method would
have thought of it anyway but it's it's kind of crazy from where it's eventuated from and we're
right now and there's a lot of good trinkets off the splittable bosses as well obviously the
trinket off this boss you're splitting like five bosses in mythic void spire now as well so it's
Yeah, I don't know. It's a different race vibe. I don't know how chats felt about this race as you've been casting and what kind of impression has been coming out, but it's been a weird one to watch from my perspective.
I definitely think so. I mean, even now we're in week two of Mystic. This is supposed to be Super Hype. It's the two last bosses. We're probably going to spend like the first day and a half or something in splits.
splits. We just saw, like the previous cast mentioned, Ekko went in and they hoped a little
boss in the new raid, you know, Bellarant. Hmm, was so difficult level, and then they
wiped twice before the egg, and they're like, alright, back to splits, but they kept the
logs private, so we don't know the eye level. I think, I think really, really interesting
to go in and even bother trying it like I get it. I get it to go and to go and investigate
and maybe you want to see but I mean they blizzard buff that boss it went to a it's
now four of six mythic track item level loot so it got buffed it kind of feels like they've
got from after how Illyria went they were kind of like we want another shot at a penultimate
boss because I don't think ballerina was I think everyone thought Illyria was going
going to be the, you know, the kind of the penultimate boss.
Ballerin would not fall over, but it wouldn't be that hard.
And then Midnight Falls is just something completely different.
And that boss is going to be absolutely insane on mythic, judging by the heroic today.
But Ballerin's up there now.
So, yeah, I think you're going to have to juice as much as you can
to be able to get through that fight.
I think they was it kind of really threw it down on this one.
So yeah, it's gonna be an interesting few days
Yeah, I mean just looking at what what?
Has been like been conspired up here or something, but yeah, they they're probably feeling very bad about all area being so easy
they buff the
The item level of Bellarant like you said to be at an ultimate boss level and
Ultimate like last boss level and so now they are they chewed it up. Hopefully it's enough
yeah and we don't like like I said I we don't know what echo had been there with
it could have been some scrappies there they still obviously have it pulled
crests and so on so it could still be a lot of eye level to go and they just
poke just in case the bosses were still easy but it seems like this or don't
want that to be the case and we're all very happy for that I'm very happy
even like I don't know even gearing's been really interesting this right here I
I feel like this is, as I said in my little intros feel,
I really do feel like this is one of the most unique races
that we've seen.
And not just from a three-rate perspective,
not just from a mythic splits perspective,
but even like gearing-wise,
because you've had the heroic week that was back,
then you had uncapped heroic crests, uncapped mythic crests.
We're kind of at a stage now where we're heading
into the final boss and people are gonna be like,
five item levels off cap going through a last boss, which is, I don't think that's happened
before. That's not been a thing. Like the amount of gearing has just become absolutely insane. So
I don't know. And then even like putting the decisions that have gone through the race as well,
I think it would have come down to liquid splitting, voids fire ahead anyway, but they
they kind of had to make that choice before EU as well.
Like you can't wait to EU to make that decision for you.
So they just kind of had to call that
that was the way they were gonna do one.
Obviously it was the smart way
and it probably would have panned out that way anyway,
but NA still had to make that decision prior to EU.
And it's the same as even like advancing on baller
and midnight falls as well.
It depends what changes come through late in the race
as to what impact that's gonna have
from the NA EU balance as well.
So it's just, it's been an odd race from that perspective.
How are we feeling about the compositions
that we've seen so far?
I mean, not super surprising, I don't think.
They valued like the basically from the tank,
the warriors were strong, very stable.
It doesn't seem like all the guilds have the same thinking
about the Mistweaver Monk since Liquid went with 2 and I'm just going to be honest here,
I'm pretty sure Messe did not plan for that and then they were like oh Liquid went 2,
that makes kind of sense and so they started gearing some Monks that previously were not
thought of.
We got a trinket, we got a gage trinket.
We've only seen Ekko go with the one Mistweaver but other than that it's the same, you know,
basically where do we get the druid buff then if we only go with one Mistweaver or two I
And then Devourer DH very strong, MMI was very strong on multi-target.
Warlock's mage is always strong, and then it's like how much do you value the DK, do
we get the Paladin buff from the refs?
So I'm not super surprising, I don't think.
No, it's been pretty stapled across the two.
I was glad to see a bear come back into the mix.
I think like bear was what, Queen Ansarek.
I think was the last time that we'd seen a bear in Race World
so that the bear war was kind of cool.
We saw the blood decay come in as well.
We saw a double warrior in some comps for the king as well.
I was kind of hoping as I was going down the leaderboards
and looking at things that I would have seen, you know,
some interesting combos, especially from the CN guilds,
but everyone was pretty, everyone was pretty kind of,
you know, mirror-imaged in that way.
Honestly, they were a bit on the board a bit.
They were running Guardian through.
Yeah, nothing, I don't know.
I just, not that I expected to see anything wild
like a prop Paladin or something in there,
but I don't know, I just wanted to see someone
doing something different and not really there.
But interesting to have 11 guilds rolling into the next week
at seven of nine as well.
I don't know if that's a mark of maybe how easy,
I don't wanna say how easy this raid was,
But you can say it's a it's it's it's kind of wild to have like 11 guilds on the leaderboard all in the same spot
Like you know this would not happen if it was a
If it was a normal raid, I I don't I don't I've been any of our other races
Going back kind of to what you mentioned just a little bit ago
Because we're all I'm saying we all but like these 11 guilds are all seven and nine
We're looking at Bellarant and we see that the top guilds they obviously have more splits going
They have bigger pool of fear to get next week
The guilds that are behind the top three probably don't have as many characters as many splits to do
Which means they will go to Bellarant and Midnight Falls
Like or maybe at the same time even if the only day raided in the evening
And they will all be stuck there if Velerin and Midnight Falls are that hard. Oh, yeah
They're trapped. Yeah, and then you just sit there. You're like
7-day guild
Six hours in the evening rating time. You're like, what do we do now, you know?
Yeah, and even that's interesting too like the fact that if I mean
There's only 11 guilds actually let me have a look at how many are sitting because they nerfed paladins which by the way
think like one of the best council bosses ever I really really enjoyed
Paladins I don't know what what the the vibe on progressing Paladins was like
from the the casting perspective but I actually thought that was a really really
cool but I really like that we got 22 guilds on six of nine and then there are
There are a lot of guilds on five of nine right now. Yeah like that. I am I am still I'm over a hundred
So whether or not you you know, you're just sitting there waiting for nerfs
But again, this is crazy that in
in the opening
There's 204 guilds at five of nine. Yeah, that's that's kind of mental. I think that speaks volumes to the raid, but
But if this was a normal race with one raid and not a staggered release, we would still
be in this kind of similar position generally anyway where like if last boss dies on sat
day or sunday, then that's still normal anyway.
But because there was this giant sort of stop gap, it just, I don't know, it feels a lot
sort of further disjointed.
And I guess Alirio being built up as a penultimate boss and then fizzing out on that kind of
really wrecked that. I don't know. Continuous vibe as well. It was bad. It was really bad.
Because like everyone, I remember we were sitting here early on in the week and everyone
is like warning the viewers basically like there are a couple of scenarios, maybe Alaria
is very very easy and then we do a mythic split. Maybe Alaria is impossible. Then we
do a mythic splits and yeah and it's just like oh she died on the Friday or
something you're like oh no what's gonna go on yeah yeah it's um and I mean
they're gonna split mythic alleria too like liquid will liquid did five splits
today no I think they did five or six splits today for five bosses I think I
could be I could be wrong on that the math might not be mathen but it's
somewhere around that ballpark and I assume they do more tomorrow and then
they split mythic alleria which is an insane thing to say because again you've still got
you know a few good items off mythic alleria that you're going to be chasing. So I think
by the time they do that they hopefully head to ballerina. I still think ballerina is going
to be kind of crazy for where it's at and the mythic differences into that and then
midnight falls I don't know midnight falls is anyone's guess I was reading through the
dungeon journal today at the Mythic Mechanics trying to look at how that's going to be.
That looks like that's going to be on a completely different level to something we've never
seen before, especially with... this is where it gets interesting as well because with the
memory game in the Mythic Mechanic there appears to be like a split and a song where it'll have
some kind of symbols that'll go out that you'll have to match and you can't run into other
players or you explode kind of that that star or go vibe, but they'll do something different
with it. But because of the because of the add on change with private or is there's no
you're right now, you aren't able to do any like dynamic assignments anymore. So I think
that'll be quite interesting. But I mean, I haven't got to talk about it with anyone
because I've been alone watching the race to the world first and not on cast. But like
didn't add on didn't add on thing just kind of fall flat as shit like really did yeah it's
it just kind of feels the exact same with a bunch of hassle now yeah so the difference
kind of right it's like they were saying we're pulling the plug no no computational add-ons
like nothing that does anything basically and right and then there's a little bit more leniency
a little bit more leniency a little bit more leniency there's still a lot of stuff you can't
do with addons but i think a lot of people weren't expecting that the spell weak aura basically to
stay there for paladins and then every guild that was progressing paladins with eight dispels
which now has been nerfed but yeah when it was eight dispels they were like oh we kind of need
the same addon and then some are developing it some are probably like poking their friends like
Please help me
Becomes weird if you're still sitting here after the add-on purge
Yeah, like jumping at the bits hoping to get that one add-on that's gonna fix your game
Yeah, I mean what do we got we got is it echo I've got
Sooth someone's got sneak auras. That's echo. I think sneak or echo. I don't know what liquids is cold
but they're all just made forks of it and
We Corus lives on basically like it's I don't know. I feel like I just feel like it failed
And maybe they can fix it then that's next patch, you know, that's that's the world craft dream is
Hoping that blizzard helps us out next patch. It's it's a work in progress. Absolutely. So
Who knows who knows it just I don't know
I just missed the mark but anyway we are where we are it is what it is but
method have been put in a good good performance so far like being keeping
tabs kind of thing liquid obviously like very playing very very very well but
we've we've been right up there I've been really happy with kind of how we've
coasted they stayed relatively in touch with Echo which obviously the main
competition across the EU guilds. So hopefully we just managed to keep our momentum and finish
this off, but the next few days is going to be vital, getting through these splits quickly
and then hopefully being able to just get in and make some hard progress on Ballerin.
Yeah, and on that note with Ballerin, so with our one of our beautiful sponsors, RadarIO,
you can go and see the composition and I can see that they stepped in on Ballerin Mythic
on 271.81, which means it's probably like 10 eye level lower than when they pull everything.
Around that mark, sort of, ish maybe.
So, and they almost got to the first egg in, like just a couple of pulls.
I would not be surprised if when we finally see them go into Mystic Valorant that it actually
dies somewhat fast.
I would not be surprised.
I think it'll be interesting to see what the like what the rinse phase one is like
So when you get back to phase one the first time and you know, you have the healing debuff
I think like that the ashen bin addiction and then you've got that pulsing damage as well from burning heart and things like that in the egg
phase I think that will be
Interesting to see how they've tuned
the damage around that kind of thing because it does seem pretty insane but
obviously if you're gonna add another eight item levels across your raid six
item levels across your raid or something like that maybe that completely
nulling voids that but yeah I I don't know I don't know if we have the if we've
had cast of predictions going on in here because I I kind of had to go full
yellow on cast of predictions but I actually think I think I've gone okay
maybe I don't know how did you go with the predictions for what's ended up
happening screwed it up yeah I think I might have had like a hundred or
something on a lie I think yeah I mean I maybe I did I don't know production we
have we have them I mean we should have them but from memory I went something
along the lines of like 1, 1, 1, 2, 5 and then I went like, dragons was 40.
I thought dragons was gonna be hard.
Yeah, I put dragons at like 40, paladins at 50, then alleria at 200, then bellarum back
to like a 30 mark or something and then last boss at 200 because I really thought it would
be like alleria would be almost feel like an end boss week one but won't be and then
week two we will see midnight falls or lura be be the actual emboss yeah yeah i think i i think
i might have put like two five six the midnight falls with allura um i just yeah i'm really
looking forward to seeing that fight i was really impressed i don't give you watch the heroic kill
we've not seen it on uh method broadcast but i have i've seen it go back and watch the other one
yeah i've seen it from liquid a couple times i thought it was really cool i really like the
mechanics that they've gone with on that because obviously it's really hard to reinvent the wheel
every time you make a new boss. We've generally seen a lot of the mechanics
that we get to see but I like how they do, they add a little bit of extra things to them.
You know like the safeguard matrix that comes out with a 15 stack damage buff and you can
master spell them or interrupt them to get it off and things like that. Like just little changes
like that galvanize it is is like it's a phenomenal looking boss as well so they have really done
a good job on that boss i think it's gonna be i don't know i kind of want to call it to be one
of the hardest mythic bosses i think we're we're going to have ever seen in a race um it'll be
interesting to see sort of how far pushes the envelope on that i think i think it needs to
as well to kind of save the Vardis race. Yeah that's the feeling like I feel hardest ever quite
possibly maybe but like kind of needs to be died so I feel like everyone even if they don't want
to is coping a little bit with like please please um but I mean it has the mechanics to make it you
know high ground good looking good looking fight room and stuff yep because in heroic and maybe
maybe you have a different thought about it.
I would say like P1 is very good in Heroic,
but then P3 to me kind of feels a little lackluster,
but that's when the mythic mechanic, if I don't remember wrong now,
is you will have memory game in the last phase as well,
and that's the one that will be like,
instead of you triggering it with the laser,
you trigger it with the Storog or Mechanic-ish.
So yeah, and you split into two realms as well.
Yeah, it's going to be crazy.
Yeah, that's going to be crazy.
So that'll be that that severance in phase three, which will be the new mythic
mechanic and then that death requiem, which is the marks, which I don't know.
I just I think that's going to be really, really cool to see sort of how that phase
three plays out. And I think it'll be a brand new level of hectic.
We always talk about it.
We always speculate on it.
They're a mythic phase. They're a mythic phase.
Shaken is a secret phase on Allura.
What do you think?
They're a secret phase.
I've given up.
I don't have any.
I don't have any hope you have left on mythic phase anymore.
It's over.
We've been down this rabbit hole before and.
I'll always be happy.
We always have such hope you have to.
I still remember.
I was so lost.
Yes, I was going to say that was the last that was the last one,
Especially because everyone was like before the kill. We've seen it. It's in the logs. We've seen it. We know we know
We're doing it. It's in there. We're all like cool cool and then it just died everyone was just like
This this tana guy like you guys don't know
But when we're at the venue, I think Sark was the drink it was like the first venue with it as well, right?
I think cuz Rafa Rafa guess was still from home. Yeah, I was you're right
So like Sork was the first one in the venue we had a blast like I said it before in a cast as well when the
Castor room was right next to all the players which the players might enjoy it
But as the castors it was a blast. We had fun
Pain is coming in every five minutes like yeah, I mean the race looks easy looks easy
But don't worry like Sork's gonna have a secret mythic face. We know about like we've seen it
we know about it. Like don't be surprised it's gonna be there. Every single day he comes in like that.
And then the boss is dead and he's like, oh I guess I was wrong. Like.
Yes, yes there wasn't. Step into my house. Step into my house.
Awesome what do we eat? We're two splits down on Chimeris. Now it is good that we're starting off
the mythic splits. Now I don't know how many we're going to do on Chimeris and you know like
put the put the chip on the table for maybe four or five um and then hopefully head into void
spy did we do what have we been live for like four hours we've been doing normal and heroic splits
i assume only void spy as well yeah okay so chimeris for another couple of trinket chances
and then who knows who knows who knows it's gonna be interesting it'll be interesting to see
how much we tick off today I think obviously the aim will be by the end
of this stream I think we kind of need to be four or five voids by a splits done
and dusted so you can come in tomorrow finish up whatever maybe didn't get done
do alliria and then it'll be prog time I don't know like maybe lunch lunch
tomorrow this ballerin prog maybe good could very well be yeah I mean it could
be that some other guild has some other plan as well. I think the cool thing about the
fact that we know that Midnight Falls is going to be so hard now is that I don't think there's
a rush to get into Baloran. I was kind of definitely wondering that when we hit the
end of the week and you had so many guilds on on seven of nine and I was kind of like
like what as as liquid as echo is method here like what's you kind of thought if some if a
guild like you know batjack yes or id advanced any of those guilds decide to go into balleran
and it ends up which which it isn't but it ended up being like this is this is okay we can probably
kill this are you still gonna carry through this plan but I think now that
we know that it is so hard I don't know I just don't feel like there's any need
to waste any time on Baloran you just you're gonna have to do everything you
can to be able to kill Midnight Falls anyway yeah and it's always like a
chicken race with that right and yeah and I think Max even stated that at
At least from their minds they were like, we're just gonna do splits and if there is a guild
that is trying to beat us to the punch and we see that they are like doing it kind of
like it's doable then they just swap over and they think they can beat them.
Yeah, well they could anyway because they're better players in the end of the day, they
would be able to catch them and then prog pass them you would think.
So they, and when he states that, basically saying we're gonna go into splits, then Method and Ekko don't even have to think about it, because it's like liquid is doing that, we might as well do it too.
But I'm at least happy that we got Ekko to just poke the boss and see what happens.
With low rai level, it doesn't lead to a one to one.
Ekko are back on Chimera's doing splits now.
Anyway, so like they
Obviously, I mean there's it could have been a number of things in that could just been checking things out getting some data as well
And then starting to make some plans off that while they're doing all the splits for the day
So
But it is it was interesting to get a bit of an early look at that anyway and sort of see see what we're up against and what we're
Going to be dealing with but our number three Chimera split incoming
We should only have another couple of these and then we'll be off to the void spire is my
for five bosses on rinse repeat in there
oh yeah what did you think of uh me like boss highlights through voids bar what are you a fan of
i mean not not that much to be fun not much all right cool like uh fallen king
i see yeah it's probably the one that would be most interesting if that just like swapped places
with like another boss but in this race you can't even really swap it with something to make it
difficult you know it's like yeah you swap it with the Larry it still dies in 20 pulls for echo so
yeah it it was interesting I like I said you were more talking about pool predictions I had
high hopes for dragons I really did think dragons was gonna be you know a banger of a boss
And I had almost wondered if the pool count was going to be really similar between Dragons
and Vanguard.
I actually thought it was going to be like quite match difficulty for bosses.
Just really didn't sort of pan out that way and Crown of the Cosmos, like I think it looked
cool.
I think visually it was a cool fight.
It is just underwhelming in kind of every other aspect, but visually it was cool.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure. I think with with that boss it just felt so weird because even in heroic you have this mechanic with obelisks
And you just do nothing with them. All you do is like, I'll just follow the group.
Yeah, you point them the other way if you follow the group, just follow the group.
And then in Mystic it's like, oh, we're actually using obelisk to aim.
But then the Mystic mechanic, like in P2 when you're using obelisks in a specific way,
The rotation is bait obelisk move back bait void the
The void orbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah way he love void orb hit obelisk hit boss with arrow
Step to the right. Yeah, go back left. That was it. And yeah, okay
An ultimate boss by the way
Yeah, it was it was it was bit disappointing same as like I
I don't know, I wanted more from the Rift semi-lacrum, the semi-lacrum as well, like I, I just, it was just there and you killed it and I don't know, I kind of thought.
That last phase is the first thing you do.
I was kind of like, I was kind of like, what, what, alright.
first thing you do in last phase is like oh it will not spawn on our platform so
we go over and we kill it with the ranged and then every other time it's like
oh where did it spawn oh go over there with the boss and then kill it with the
range just like it was yeah I don't know I don't know if that wasn't the
plan and they just they just didn't think about it from a design but I don't
No, it was just, it was very underwhelming though, in that regard, so, but the good news is, it's not all doom and gloom because Arsham Qaldunas actually looks absolutely amazing, so, and I do wonder if, from a race perspective, obviously, you know, you get a bit full
do more about this and you kind of your harp on about it. But I do wonder the general consensus
from normal people playing the game, if they're actually really happy and really enjoying
this. You've got a raid that probably won't take you a long time to progress through if
your aim is just heroic and maybe the first couple of bosses of mythic. You probably weren't
even up to March if that was the sort of category that you fell in. So the release cadence
didn't impact you at all, mythic plus dungeons being a lot easier, upgrading gear being a
lot easier, tier set acquisition being a lot easier, like I don't know maybe 90% of the
player base are actually like loving the shit out of this and it's just the sweats that
have got you know complaints about it. I would be interested to know.
I definitely think so, I think I mentioned like with my introduction to WoW it was kind
of sort of in this scenario where I started playing in Legion when Emerald Nightmare was
a cakewalk. But if it hadn't been that easy, it's very likely that my guild that was just
a bunch of friends getting together and playing Mythic would have disbanded. But we kept going
because you know, like it was easy. So for those people, I think it's a good introduction
played into Mystic, but I think for everyone that is like
music progressing, getting cutting edge every single tier
waiting for the next one, you know, for them, it might be a
little bit disappointing.
And maybe this is a good starting point, like, you know,
midnight launch per season, maybe, maybe this that is that
like you were talking about this keeps people going and then
they just move the needle a little bit on the next release.
And we kind of see see what happens with that. I don't know. Yeah, I feel like all the noise is probably coming from our side of the fence and everyone else is like this pretty chill. I'm loving this. I'm pretty happy with this. So I would definitely think so.
Where yeah, we're very echo chambery and we are we are we're a doom a bunch
I think we just had a wipe on our chimeris split to that's um
Bit awkward, but yeah, it's always a mission
Sometimes sometimes it do be like that. Sometimes it do be like that. What did you think of this fight for like a?
single single boss raid solid fight
It's alright to be fair
Maybe it's a
Maybe it's a little boring that it's basically only the intermission. That's a pain point
And this this strat now is basically when you come back up to phase one and
The second group is about to go down you just kill the tank and you nuke the boss before intermission two kind of yeah
I'm bothered but it's I would definitely say like this is probably
One of the better bosses from what we expected going into the tier
that like yeah I would probably say that yeah I thought it was a pretty cool I
first thing I don't I don't mind the single raid like the single boss raid
style I think it would have been amazing in like a minor patch versus a you know
an expansion release type of deal but it's a cool fight it combines some
different style mechanics that we've seen sort of in in in other bosses
before and it looked cool too. I thought it looked pretty cool so yeah I mean points as
you said though it gets to a point where you end up coming to cheese the strat and then
it kind of negates what's going on but I mean that's always gonna happen too people are
always gonna figure out the cheesiest way to do something and go with it that way anyway.
It obviously opens the door when we have the you know for mythic splits and so on. I don't
I think it would be the end of the world if it was like, let's say, Void Spires and Midnight Falls was one raid, and then Primarius was just like, it's on raid, then we would obviously mis-explicte that still for the race, but...
Yeah, it would have been kind of would have been cool to see if they had a combined Valoran and Alura into Void's Bar.
Like I don't know, I have no idea if that makes sense because I've got no idea what's going on, but...
Lorewise, we don't care about Lorewise.
Yeah, Lorewise, I have no idea, but it would have been interesting.
I definitely, I mean, we've said, we've said it time and time again anyway, but is it never,
I think they tune some things around the race to world first, but I don't think they ever
design anything with race to world first in mind, especially like their raid release structure
and things like that. Like it's not the never coming up with this stuff being like, how is
this going to impact three guilds in the world or 10 guilds in the world? What levels of degeneracy
are they going to go through kind of thing? Like I don't think that's ever been their focus and,
And nor should it should it really be um, but I don't think we'll see a repeat of this
In the next one. Well, we do see preppy going down there to the breath unlock
On board the right now. We have a res god devour dh hasn't this just been absolutely
Insanity four buttons and all the damage in the world
It is crazy. I
I mean it's, I don't know if I'm really all for this, you know, like, oh, this is the new cool spec, the new boy, and it's gonna be the best by far.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's very strong.
Yeah, I think it's gonna be the mythic plus kind of stand out this season is the, is the vibe that I am seeing there.
And they just recently got buffed as well.
Like they just, yeah, it's kind of crazy damage.
crazy damage. It is cool to see a new spec come into the game though. I'm never won the
shy away from that and midnight from the new point of my life now where I am this casual
gamer midnight has been an awesome expansion. I've enjoyed it a lot so far.
So since you say you're a casual, how is dark magic doing nowadays?
I'm good, but it's an adjustment to casual lifestyle.
It's a real adjustment to casual lifestyle now.
And I think, I don't know, I think with that comes a different perspective and kind of
like when I was talking about I wonder if you know the masses enjoy the way that midnight
has launched and what's available.
I am in the masses now and I enjoy how it's launched and how it's going so I don't know I feel like I have a
a different perspective to offer now that uh, you know, I'm not such a sweat
And it's that's good. How are you are you barreling back into this or where are you at? Are you still in classic land?
Old school
Oh, this is all right, okay
uh
Yeah, that's what happens.
I'm having a great time.
That is, I never played it.
I never played it and I never will because I think I probably would take up way too much of my time.
Okay.
You did a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair.
Fair, fair, fair.
You still running?
I am still running.
Another half marathon in like four weeks.
So...
That's actually the other thing too.
I kind of traded inside for outside.
But, but is something about a new expansion also in a race world first that kind of always brings you brings you back in.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's I think it's one of those things where we're even when you try to step back from it.
It's some some part of you still lives in here.
Oh, yeah, it still manages the whole part of you.
That's why I'm here.
Yeah, that's it.
Oh, look, I was happy when I saw your name on the list.
i was happy when i saw your name on the list i was i'm hoping you know i want a method second
i want a method or a method w i want live events to return it's uh you know it's it's this remote
stuff this remote stuff is hard business no it's it's it isn't the same but it's it's it's not the
same vibes it's not the same vibes and the time zone is just horrendous all right i can imagine
I can definitely imagine yeah that was what was that third third split done
third yeah third all right and keep in track of this I'm I'm still tipping five
no but we'll see this production though how many we're doing did we get any
inside I have not gotten any information so I don't know so 10 30 10 30 a.m. for the
players. Oh, and this is speaking of players, speaking of this POV that we're on right now.
I can't tell you how happy I was to see this guy back in the raid. Mr. Farbo himself,
D. Shades coming back in. I could not believe it because every cast we had had with D. Shades
was like, you miss it. You know, you're going to come back and play. And it was always like
It can't afford me, you know, down, down, down, down,
and then next minute, he pops up.
I'm like, ooh.
The man with, I think he's, I don't know,
eight world firsts or whatever deep shades is,
he's up there in the hall of fame for world firsts,
returns to the game, so.
And I haven't got to cast any prog
because I was, I know he wouldn't make a single mistake.
So I was really looking forward
to casting that progression.
So, I mean, maybe tomorrow I get another cast tomorrow,
So maybe that's definitely Balor and Prog by then.
Hopefully, it probably won't be the same finish.
I am, so probably not going to be.
But I can hoff some hope here when you never know.
But yeah, I was really happy to see Dshade's back in.
And Royban finally getting a Jersey and getting in
to heal as well.
That was very, very insightful.
So yeah, some good upgrades to the Mephin squad.
Yeah.
or a caster squad is just getting smaller and smaller, you know?
Uh, yeah, it's, it's true. It's true. It is true. What do I mean? I don't think we're
going to see any composition changes from here out, really? Thoughts like heading to
midnight falls? I mean, marksmen hunters are going to be plenty, obviously, because they
just pump damage right now, but I don't think there's going to be too many, too many swings.
I kind of feel like with the movement and crystals, range is probably going to be a
lot better on that fight. I mean, I mean, it always is in in raiding anyway, and we very
rarely see Malay like that's kind of been the theme for why I don't know how many raids
in a melee I've kind of been kicked to the curb but especially in the movement with holding the crystals and the
Soaks you generate where you get hit in mid-night falls. Yeah, they're kind of pinned
Yeah, and especially this rate like how many mellos have we seen really? I mean the DH is even going over to range, you know, so yeah
That's true. It's true. So
Yeah, it'll be um
Yeah, I guess kind of for a lot of people. Maybe the the red would be the surprising one, you know
I
Did I don't think holy holy paladin was kind kind of been like
And then there was just no way you could take a prop out and like credit to the bosses in this raid
There's there's some hefty melee damage on the tanks
So, yeah, I don't think you had any option, Red just said to be Red.
Yeah, exactly.
It's kind of like Prot Paladin, Garbage.
Holy Paladin, Garbage.
Alright, Red, you're looking okay, let's go, you've seen perfect.
Yeah, because it was, it is really odd and I mean, Prot Paladin got changed so you can't
achieve 100% blocker.
Yeah, I don't know, like it's always got its utility elements to it, but nothing that
really stood out for the risk of bringing it
compared to a bear or a warrior.
And then, you know, I kind of feel sorry
for the DPS warrior side of things.
Again, generally have a fairly rough run
where you're only ever bringing like,
I mean, there was times where we always had Dan and Faithy
competing for warrior spots
and they were always barely been in regards
to we're just bringing one of you for a buff and bad luck,
go play Hunter or figure something else out.
So we have seen a safety transition for that though, which is good.
Yeah, I think FATI obviously has had that like half hunter spot for a while.
But I think even one of the FATI's most strong characters right now is Death Knight.
I think Dan might be in the same boat sort of, or it's like...
Well, we've had worse playing on Holy when about new pickups as well, so that's, you know...
That's that's always going to be the challenge as well, you know, like we we saw a number of players move from method to echo
It after the last tier and it's kind of just it's always going to be that challenge to pick new players up, especially in an aging game like World of Warcraft. And I think that's
I don't know, it will be interesting to see what Midnight does in that perspective as
well.
Hopefully there's a lot of younger players perhaps coming up through those 6, 7, 8, 9,
10 world spots that can start getting fed into these guilds.
Because there certainly is an ageing player base in the world of First Rosters.
And I don't know how long does that sort of continue to go on for?
Yeah, I don't know I feel like every game I'm playing it's just boom if I had every like we're all just getting becoming boomers and
The reason I don't every year the average age of all the guilds is just increasing by one and you're like, oh, no
Yeah, but I mean
echoes roster for example has
Has a lot of old times on there
I don't say that in a flame way, but like
just does because they've been playing at a top level for a long time. And then, you know, I don't
know, maybe maybe their reflexes never slow down and their decision making never, never falters.
So they just keep playing this game forever. But yeah, it's, it will be interesting to see as the
tears go on, how many of them sort of maintain that spot and continue to push forward in this.
I feel like method are a pretty good spot from that. I feel like method has quite a young roster.
So that hopefully works to our advantage and if we can just hold on to players and keep building
Yeah, see that that second part. I think it's a little bit hard
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is it is this but I mean liquid have a really young roster as well
So yeah, I mean this there's no chance of them not being a hold on hold on to players
But that is always the challenging point, especially after every tier and where you finish
Obviously plays a really large impact on the talent that you can attract on the talent that you can hold on the sponsorship that you can bring in as well.
So it is getting to a fairly pointy end of a stick 4 method in that regard, especially I feel like there was a lot of pressure that was built up in the last tier heading out of the war within.
I don't think we did a bad job, but I think that was a really scaled back operation in
terms of return to remote casting, big focus on the guild, and we had a lot of really big
pickups.
And I think we all had possibly unfair expectations that we'd put out.
But yeah, I certainly think that's, they know what they have to do and they know what they
need to chase.
just putting it together for that one tier and then hopefully being able to build on that.
And I think on that note, I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like for a long time now
there's been a lot of pressure on method build up and like to talk about like this is the tier we
make the the actual comeback and have not seen that type of content this time around so maybe
maybe they could just sit back, relax and then...
I actually felt like this Race to World first was fairly interesting and I don't know if
it's just because I have slotted over into the casual side of the world but I didn't
feel like there was as much hype around this Race to World first as I'd seen in previous
and I don't know if that was due to three raids sort of being lined up and
people not knowing how that was gonna work what the parameters the race to
world first was going to be like did chimeris count did voids by account did
March count is it all of them combined that the counts and I don't know I just
didn't feel like I'd seen as much sort of presence and hype around it on Twitter as
we as we normally sort of do. But that that could just be in myself in taking a
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he looked like me before he started, but now he looks like him, so I can make you a
world-thrown shapeshift fitness, get on it. But yeah, it is, and it is interesting to
hear that from Logok as well, that lived and breathed this for a very long time, and still
raids at a high level and things like that. So yeah, I don't know chat, did you kind of feel
the same way? We're all obviously die hard method fans here and raised the world first supporters
were in the chat hyping up the players. Did you feel like this one was hyped up? And if not,
kind of like, what was what was the reason? Yeah, I wonder if it was like sorry. Yeah.
No, I wonder if it was like, most of the expansion launch was so much about this with like
like the the add-ons and everyone's screaming and yeah i do feel like i do feel like and i i
mean we i think this is a conversation that comes up every single broadcast tier expansion
we're not we're not a great bunch at accepting change no like it's not it's kind of not something
we generally embrace. And I feel like there was a lot of doom that went up from very vocal
points about the add-on changes. And then I think it's kind of like the meta. You just can't help
but be dragged into it. It's just the way it works. It's like somebody can repeat over and over and
over again, you know, you don't need Metacomp to time x, y key, but because people will just
watch their favorite streamers doing it all the time and eventually just filters into the community.
And I kind of feel like a lot of that sentiment most of the time, which is most most of the time,
sadly, it's negative or double trinket like that would take that generally sort of gets filtered
out there. And I kind of wonder if that was, you know, what happened with add on pocket lips. And
And then, you know, it didn't really turn out to be that bad.
It turned out to be a lot more hassle to get what you already had and nothing really changed.
But maybe it was just blown up way out of proportion.
No, that doesn't sound like the one community at all.
I can't be can't be can't be can't be.
Two trinkets.
God, I hope we got somewhere to put them.
That's good loot.
That is good loot.
I'm understated.
Warrior.
And they both rolled on both, so I'm assuming they're getting one of each.
Hap days.
Except Dan's Warrior would, I don't know what Dan's Warrior is going to do,
like, they're going to flip it and stand in Silver Moon.
Why?
No flame, but...
So...
in this run that can extrude is like 270 269 yeah is it it no way yeah I thought
he was bringing up himself then he's bringing up the evoker but he but he is
like 269.6 okay and then that Dan warrior is actually 272.8 and he has
that trinket on normal and now being on mystic so that's a big upgrade but like
you said it's a warrior you know yeah we're just it's not gonna come I will
say I mean they're still not gonna get bored in but the hitbox on Laura is
massive like in like phase one and three the hitbox is it's huge you don't
actually have to be hugging the boss to hit it but you're still not gonna bring
anyone like it's just melee just no dice no dice right that's four splits done
chat that's four done it's probably only one more of them were off to the void
spire which is at least semi-exciting maybe you know I'm not saying it's not
exciting I'm saying maybe they have planned for more I don't know you know
actually I'm gonna go and look at the roster right now and see who has what I
I tell you who doesn't need anything as usual is Wildy, like, every time, as per usual, dude is absolutely shattered out of his goddamn mind, geared to the 9s, insane.
Did you hear him the first day of Splits for Telkers?
No.
He's like...
Oh the PI? Was this the PI?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
It just goes
Okay
I'll start my name is Wildy. I'm the one UPI
Okay, yeah, I'm not surprised I'm not I'm not surprised at all
He is I will be I will be cool to see as well
that we saw I mean when Echo went into poke balleran and not that their
composition means anything from going into poke balleran but it was cool to
see with the with the orbs that transfer across the platform I can't
remember what the what's the ability called no idea but you mean the line
Me either
Radiant Echoes is what it's called the large line of void and light orbs that drift across in mythic
They appear to like be all over the shop like everywhere and we did see on their little test pool
Like that three mages five hunters, I think it was three mages five hunters
But you can immune even if you're a different color you can immune and soak two of those orbs. So like
like you had three majors, you could use ice block
and get six orbs, you had hunters with turtles
and things like that.
So it will be interesting to see maybe
if class composition has some thought process in that,
depending on how hard they've got to deal with,
but I'm not gonna really know that
until we get in there as well.
But I would like to think from the amount of splits
we are going to run, we should be pretty safe
options should we need to bring something in for that matter yeah yeah but I also
don't like I don't think Bellarant will be something they will have like a very
specific comfort to be honest I really think it would be like when they have the
characters with eye level they want to go in they can like gear up the my skill
death boss as well. Yeah, it's true. I don't it will. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Ballerin
could I could just be pumping it up to be a giant nothing burger to they might very well
go back in there when it's time to kill it and absolutely roll it like. Yeah, we do we
don't know there's some but it will be what do we got we got a really good trinket of
Ballerin to like there's still some base items off Ballerin as well. I think there's I want
I'm gonna say there's a good, there's a good hunter trinket I think.
I think.
I don't know if you've looked at loot.
Yeah there's the plume trinket.
There's the plume trinket that's off ballerine so that's all big and then we've still got
a whole bunch of trinkets we'll be chasing from Mythic splits in Void's bar as well but
yeah plume is massive off ballerine so I don't know maybe whoever gets those to drop
big advantage.
But it's also like the eye level right just the eye level being increased
Yeah, worst worst worst case scenario
That's free crests like that's worst case scenario that is free crests. So
It is very valuable loot
No, I don't like us
Yeah, yeah, it is true
It is true and gearing system as I've as I've we were talking about right at the start gearing's been so weird
in in this like the fact that fairly I mean you still got to be sweaty but you
could have been done with heroic loot in week one without being a race to
world first car yeah like that's that's pretty insane I think that's that's
definitely a first so yeah I don't know the whole things just throwing me for a
bit of a lute taking. It really has. I don't know. I've been, I've been watching this race
and figuring out like how I, how I sort of feel about it. And actually, I can just see
it from both sides, but I think it's a really hard thing for Blizzard to balance. And I
think it's a really hard thing to have any objectivity in when you're sitting on this
side and you're involved in it. And you know, you would probably feel completely different
if you were just watching it or if you didn't give a shit about the race to
world first you would can feel completely different again about it you
would probably feel very good about it it's probably very very good I think in
general though like just from from the race perspective having like what are we
on that we're on day eight and day seven is it or is it day eight I think the
broadcast titles day seven well I'm assuming it's day eight because one
week is seven days yeah see a quick math right there quick math quick math uh but
this crazy creature it's like if you took like how many hours of music
progression there was it was one day yeah we were done by Thursday when we
they were done by Thursday like we have had seven days of splits and counting
and one day of progression thus far.
Yeah, when we say it like that, it doesn't look that great.
No.
Yeah.
And there's sandbagging as well, that's the thing. They are sandbagging.
Yeah.
Viewers have to realize this too.
No one has to use their crest on characters that are important.
So it is like...
What did we, Vantas, week one?
Did we, Vantas, Illyria, or did we do, okay.
And I think, I mean, Hinds, Paladins would have been the play, 100% but nobody knows that, Hindsight's wonderful.
I think everyone thought Illyria was going to be, was hard, and Paladins ended up sort of being the big check for that.
And there was also like the bugs that existed through that as well, because I think Midnight Falls had them as well today,
with the little bay blades that come out. They were double hitting at the start and then say
I know Paladins had the same issue with the shields coming out as well, the Avengers shields
were double hitting as well so yeah. It could be. It could be. I don't think this is like really
if you want to play in Race to World first I don't think this is the tier you should be looking at
You know what I mean?
Well, I'll be interested to see numbers from it
because I think from a race to world first perspective,
I would think this would have had to have had an impact
on numbers.
Like, I think a lot of people generally,
we've got diehard fans that are absolutely amazing,
that are always in here, that are always in their,
you know, their favorite streamers channel,
pumping them up and supporting them through the race.
And believe me guys, they really do appreciate that.
Obviously, often can't respond to chat, but sometimes they do, but most of the time they're still glancing over and they do appreciate people in there, or especially if you're several pools or you're inting or something like that.
They do always appreciate the support.
But I'd be interested to see what this split has kind of done to large scale viewership numbers, people coming back and being like, are we on the last boss yet? Oh, they're still doing splits.
Let's do the one splits and just that that riding wave kind of thing
We're in the first day a few days would have been massive
But like you said we had one day of mythic progression and then back to splits and whether or not people kind of like
I don't want to go into much anymore splits, but then it's like you're just wait just wait midnight falls midnight falls and
And then they're like oh, yeah
splitting to the two guys
spoiler alert
How many do you know how many characters we prepped this time did we get any info on that one?
I mean a year ago like
From the start the start it was 20 right? Yeah, some of them are obviously dead
Yeah, so I think last week we saw
Liquid did one run that killed Alirio and nine that killed dragons
Yeah, I think echo did one alleria 10 dragons, and I think yeah did one alleria
Seven dragons. Okay. I think all of them did about like
10 11
Chimereouses
Yeah
So I from what I think it's about
Ten ish characters these guys have now that are like used for splits
Yeah
Yeah, we're just still obscene like because like you said you you prepped your characters and then they
Eventually die because they won't get used the spec ends up being dog doesn't fit with strat doesn't get gear
Whatever reason it may be, but I mean going back to I guess the increase isn't that that bad in terms of an exponential increase
We had I think bangers had the most player characters prepped at a mid-resil and that was 17
I think that I think the requirement back then was like 15. So I guess we we haven't really
Pushed the needle that far from that it is still a lot of characters
You have something crazy. I want to hear something crazy
so one of our
Lovely previous raiders here in method the scone roast obviously when I go he wanted to he wanted to show that he can put in the numbers
46 characters
Yeah, that's uh, most of them probably died instantly and never reduced but you know, that's something.
Yeah, it is insane and I think again it's just like one little glimpse that goes into the race to world first.
Like I think, I think sometimes people just think it is people with way too much time on their hands,
But it is like, it's hard to explain if you've never seen this before chat, but it's like,
if you go and see a professional tea, if you like basketball and you go and watch Lebron James,
or if you like athletics and pick whatever you like where someone's a professional,
there's no difference for these people. These are the best in the world.
it's just chosen in this field and it is crazy to watch them sit in the same
chair for 16 to 17 hours in a day, hardly move and just tunnel progression
or tunnel you know splits. Like I think normal people would really start to
mentally falter around that you would start to make dumb mistakes you would
start the end you would just be sick of it. These people are literally elite at just sitting
down and tunneling into it and it's I don't know it's something different when you get to see it.
It certainly wasn't a perspective that I really understood until I got to go to a live event
and actually see it and kind of I don't know you get a brand new appreciation for sitting on your
ass. Yeah I mean I definitely understand what you're saying. Well you've been there not successful
So all of a sudden, there's...
Alright, no swine!
Okay, I'll take it!
I'll take it!
It's not good.
Now, but like...
My first stint, right?
I'll call that...
At least I played, okay?
Yeah, but I instantly quit after this.
Instantly?
Yeah.
And that was in comparison to what these people are doing right now.
It was very far from it.
And I mentally, I mentally, I could not handle it like being honest.
Like I just couldn't.
Yeah, I, that's what I mean.
It's a very special person fit that manages to fit into this kind of echelon of rating.
It is not just being really good at your class and having no job kind of deal.
Like it is.
There's so many other variables and traits that go into it.
And that's kind of why, I think it was the last,
last live event I think we were talking about
the ability for like lower ranked world guilds
to serve as sort of feeder guilds into, you know,
the big three.
And it's just not as simple as that
because there is a huge difference between
a world 11 ranked player compared to a world like first.
like massive massive difference but I don't think you can really appreciate
the scale for just how big that is until they're side-by-side or they're trying
to slot in because we've seen a number of people you know over the years come
from world six world fifth guilds get a shot and then come back next year and
they're gone and yeah didn't mean that they weren't lovely people but just
couldn't execute at the level that's required once you take that next step and
And it's also like, if you take it from this perspective, that in most guilds when you
go and you raid, you have one off day and you're like, I screwed up, you know, maybe
it's like four hours of progression or something, but tomorrow we raid, tomorrow's a new day,
you know, whatever, it was not my day today.
If you don't have a bad day here, that's 16 hours.
Yeah.
And when you are on tilt, it's so hard to come back.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
You don't get a break.
Like, we're playing.
No matter what your mental state is at.
And I'm not saying they're forcing these people to play when they don't want to.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm just saying, like, when you wipe the raid, everyone knows how that feels.
It feels really bad.
And if you can't yourself like instantly get out of it, uh, race to world first will be
very hard for you because that's where I felt, faltered like I'm saying the first time,
but you know, the actual time I played, that's where I faltered and I still remember the
wipes I had and the stupid mistakes I had in that raid.
Yeah, I mean some you've really got to be able to snap out of and just continue rolling along but like you said and I think I mean we've we've seen it
Not not to call people out, but we've we've seen it in raids. We've we've casted where like, you know
I go back to echoes of Nelfare and prog and stuff like that for us and you know certain certain players would be dead on
on H, H sort of bit and you just be like, ah, and you could, you could just see them
sort of start to tilt and things like that. And that's, you know, it's a really challenging
part to be able to play around.
This is like the player that in their previous guild was the best.
Yeah, yeah, they come from a background of their like, I absolutely stumped everyone.
No one could touch me. Everyone's praising me at every single turn. You come here and
you die and what you hear is like, oh, come on from someone and you're like, oh,
dude, I want to,
I just want to take a second to shout out worst outfit for the day.
Like this guy,
this guy came to play collar button up shirt.
It's got like a, like a knitted jumper over the top.
This guy, this guy dressed to impress.
That is crazy to play and I'm not gonna write this actually thought I actually thought that was like a
Cravat or a pie or something he had on at the start, but I'm like
I'm getting around worst here. This man this man came to play he dressed for the role he wanted I
Is this has six split by the way, I think so. Yeah, let me refresh. We've got we've got make or is that's what ours is
Me core is that's the method one
Yes, we have five kills meaning this will be the sixth one. I'm a six
All right
What are you doing?
The cameras...
I have a question for you, Darkmech.
Mmm.
So, yesterday...
Um...
For the people that don't know.
We didn't have that much content from the playing side of you, you know?
They were like, speaking about what the plan was today and so on.
Mm-hmm.
So, me and Rage, we were yapping.
And, uh, we were talking about, like...
If we could change this one thing about the game, or something, what would you change?
We riled up Nate.
And Nate came on and we were just sitting here having a chat.
But basically, and this is what I have been reiterating for this last race,
and I don't know where people sat for that, and you saying you're a gamer.
I'm just wondering.
In a perfect world, would you want a system where the highest echelons of raiding, like
Mithic in this case, never dies?
Like it's always relevant.
Is that something you would enjoy or not?
Adam, what do you mean by never dies?
But like let's say right now you and me we're like we loved
I don't know we love galley with
Okay, but we we didn't get to finish the galley exterior on mistake in its current state
Yeah, in current progression
Mm-hmm. Let's go back. Let's play that okay. Yep
Is that something you would want and in this idea in this headspace I
I would want it to be gear relevant and how classes were at the time of
off release. Yeah I mean so I think because again as generally splits work
you end up talking about the same shit every race to world first that's just
kind of how it works or variations of it and and things like because they were
talking about World of Warcraft in the end. I think that would be a great idea
idea. But I think I don't know how many races it was ago. We were talking about the fact
that I wish they had expanded Chromie time out to be able to pick to go to whatever expansion
you wanted to go to. So you didn't have classic wow or anything like that. You just had retail
wow and Chromie was there and you could pick which version of wow you wanted to go and
play in. And you would go there and you would get the talents for that. And then all the
raids would be there, and you could do it, but it would all be housed inside retail.
Because I mean, I would be down for that. I think that would be rad.
Because I am so hardcore for that now. I think it would be awesome. I mean, you've
got, I think one of the challenges for Blizzard is you've kind of got this ever-spanning
in cabinet of content and they kind of don't know how to use it like some of
it gets pulled back into relevancy by time walking it's not the same but how
effective that is and then I I mean I when they when they first started
talking about classics I was you know I was making lots of YouTube videos by
that stage I was you know I was a really vocal sweatlord I was like classic is
never happening you people are absolutely I made a video about it so to pop it was on
asman's channel so to pop in like I was I was like classic is not happening and then
classic happened so like I was I was wrong and I put my hand up for that but I still
I still think that it would have been so much better to find a way for that to work within
retail yeah and and and not cannibalize your player base and split it up so heavily and
And I think what you mentioned would have been a great way to do it.
And you could have had.
You could have linked it all the way back to vanilla like everybody, always me basically
bangs on about old school knacks and corrupted Ashbringer, Ateesh, you know, being able to
go and do those things will be a part of them, the AQ war effort, all that sort of stuff,
know, if you could be a part of it in retail and then literally go back to an NPC and come
back to the present time if you want to play, you know, whatever. I don't know, I don't
know the limitations around that and obviously there must be some or if just nobody thought
about it and Blizzard should give me a job, I don't know, but that's how it should work.
I'm sure it's very hard to do, but I also am pretty sure that it's doable and they
they just didn't want to go down the route.
Well, I'm just looking at chat now,
and I can't read all that and talk at the moment,
but I do know that Final Fantasy has something similar
in it where you can go back and do things.
And I think WoW probably could have learnt a bit
from that system.
And then, I don't know,
I think that would have just been a really cool way,
because there is so much content in World of Warcraft
that is just forgotten or when you're leveling,
you just completely skip it nowadays.
And I know Chromium was put in so you could play through
like an expansion, but it still doesn't end up
really working out that way.
And then there's just, there's no reason to go
to any of those places.
Lots of new players will never go to half the,
half the sort of places that were,
the WoW has on the map or, you know,
a lot of people that are coming into WoW now.
Some of them come back, play through the whole story, other people will be like fastest way to level and it'll be like tier 1 Da'ov, pull everything, kill it in one pull, run out, reset, go again, and then you just, you're seeing the inside of a Da'ov until the 90 and then you explore the current world but you missed all of the previous.
Yeah, I mean, I cannot believe how I'm sure there has been a lot of bizarre devs that have been screaming about this.
But internally, some of people would have had to be like, wait, we are cannibalizing every single piece of content we're ever creating error.
Like, maybe we shouldn't do this forever. But apparently they're like, let's keep on going.
So that our let's say what you have talked about I'm fully agreeing with and
you know this not cannibalizing of content or if you could bring it
revitalize it somehow. Do you think we get another classic? See that's where
I'm going so if you go for the classic plus yeah if you create what would classic
plus the for you like not I'm not saying like what is the content yeah yeah yeah what is how
does the game work I don't know and I know there's a there is a huge fan base for classic like
season of discovery was was a height of success for I think with the classic community and it was
kind of like do you remember project ascension I don't even know if you're allowed to say that name
But I did. I did say it. I did say it. But there's there was a game that obviously took all the blizzards and stuff. And this was like, that game was, I don't know, 10 years ago, like it's been out forever.
They had the ability to be a warlock with shield wall, mortal strike, polymorph, chain
lightning, the works.
And then they put Mythic Plus when it came out in retail into Blackrock depths and all
of that kind of stuff.
And I kind of feel like that's what season of discovery was.
that was like, you guys have actually, you know,
illegally had a bunch of great ideas here from our IP.
We're going to put it into ours.
But I don't know if I like that for a classic plus thing,
but I don't know if I carry there
because I just wouldn't play it.
But I kind of wonder if that's why classic plus needs to be
is just this expensive world.
But I don't know, because I don't feel like,
And I don't feel like classic and I don't feel like classic and the plus go together,
if this makes sense.
I don't feel like you need all these flashy things partnered up with classic.
I think you could put some of the elements of like speed elements, like, yeah, mythic
plus kind of stuff into classic environment if you want, but I don't know, it kind of
feels like an oxymoron to take this classic level button bloat gameplay of
simplistic nature and then ram a whole bunch of advanced features into it but
I I could be way off the mark there and I could be about to be absolutely
executed so I don't know. So this is what I've been saying on this broadcast for
the last few days when we have been watching splits like we are doing again
which seems like we're going into the 7th. 7th. But I've been saying what
What Classic Plus needs to be, it will never be, number one, but also, it's the Classic
Plus name.
It's horrible.
It has a stigma for so many people.
Don't ever mention Classic Plus ever, like, that's not what it's called.
Call it something else.
And then hard reset that game.
It's like, it's in the WoW universe, and it might have the same classes and so on and
and so on, but don't think of it as a wow game
that we see retail now with like, do not have seasons.
Do not have seasons.
Do not have expansions.
Like make it kind of what we're saying before,
or at least what I was saying, that if you release content,
that content should be relevant until the game dies.
Like it should be a progression MMO where it feels because that's what people and most
of the people I've talked about this and joy about the old classic wow is like gear feels
meaningful and your oh yeah leveling feels more meaningful.
It's got a grind element to it because yeah I think that's what a lot of the people tagging
on to old MMO vibes, enjoy grind elements in there. And even though Classic had a grind
in terms of leveling and then gear was meaningful, but there was no, didn't have the grind factor
like an AP or a neck kind of thing like that we saw in BFA in Legion. Like there was no
way once you were fully geared, your power progression was essentially capped. So it
if isn't in that regard but yeah I don't I don't know and then my other worry is like
I feel like if you do that you are you are once again just cannibalizing your product where you
are like cutting dev powers in half and being like right and unless unless they hire a bunch more
you know I just worry about resources getting taken from from retail and inspiration getting
taken from Retail and funneled into something else that splits the player base even further.
Yeah, but I'm saying like don't even look at it as being the same game.
But then that's impossible. That's impossible. I can't say that.
Yeah, I mean, I don't see it happening either, but that's why I don't think it would be successful.
Like that's what it would have to be in my mind for it to be good.
For it to work, yeah.
Yeah, for it to be a long lasting game that doesn't die in a year.
that isn't like five or two months and dies. Yeah I mean and to be fair like even Season of
Discovery was just a race cycle with new mechanics that it did which is which is still cool but it
has a lifespan again like you're saying. Yeah people really enjoyed phase one and then phase two
came out. Who's playing phase one? You're not playing phase one. You're playing phase two. And then
Then phase 3 came out and people did not enjoy phase 3, but they enjoyed phase 1 and phase 2, but that's dead content now.
Yeah, it's true.
And then, you're only playing on the patch cadence, and although it's in a classic universe with, you know, you don't have the DKs,
sure you have some new rotations and stuff, and people enjoy that.
Yeah.
But eventually it will die, and you're cannibalized, you're just back to like,
You take the detail, you're four minutes a little bit to the right and then you're going straight on.
And I feel like you lose those people too. Like I don't feel like...
I don't... It would be interesting again and we will never probably see figures for it, but it would be interesting to see the season of Discovery playbase when it's finished.
How many of them converted back to retail and how many we just like have done. Like I'm off to play old school runescape.
Yeah, I mean basically, I mean I have friends that really like SOD and none of them play
WoW anymore.
Yeah, I think that the ticket is making retail more appealing to bring like the funnel people
back into retail is what I would like to see.
And not even...
I don't think that will work though, I'm sorry.
It doesn't even have to be, it doesn't necessarily even have to be playing retail.
It's like we were talking about before being able to split into time throughout retail.
I just feel like at least everyone would be housed in retail then.
So then when you get sick of playing in TBC, or the player base runs out, you can just come
back to retail.
at least it cycles people back into retail. Whereas I feel like having very separate game structures,
it kind of, it really deviates from that ability. And even Missa Pandaria Classic, I think, started really strong.
Yeah.
And then bugs just persisted through it. No tuning was delivered. I think the dev capability on that was probably cut down quite a bit as well.
And the game suffered as a result of that and the hype completely fizzed out and went away and
Did you know what it even looks like now? I did I started playing it
And I had a blast I went back and did challenge modes again. I played busted ass brewmaster monk
You know, I love the return of vengeance again being back like you know
And even though there were changes to vengeance
It wasn't like old-school vengeance where you could stand in the fire to get like vengeance cap
really quick and things like that like they got rid of that and I can't remember what patch they
started from I actually got to do an interview with the devs and that was really really cool
and I had high hopes for it and it kind of just peesed out and that's you know that's just the
way it is but yeah I kind of feel like where does that cycle end because I asked them in the interview
I was like where does where does classic finish and they were like they just wouldn't really say
They were like whatever feels like it'll work kind of thing and I was kind of like where do you draw the line though until you've caught up to your own game and where it currently is now and you know remix remix is a really fun way to bring things back like I've been a huge remix enjoyer.
um but i don't know i don't maybe that's the future over over classic relaunches um it did
feel really weird to do to get tbc again you know like how we had the tbc anniversary round came out
i was like i played tbc classic when it came back like a couple of years ago and now it's back again
like it just seems weird to be on this treadmill of the same game on loop I
fully fully agree with you but that is kind of like what I'm I'm trying to to
say is like no matter what path you're going with if we have the mindset of
like you're playing this patch you will always fall down this rabbit hole no
matter how much you try to let's call it fix it right yeah yeah because next patch is still just
a patch and the patch after that will be killing what we're currently playing right yeah and as
long as you're on that thread treadmill you are just always gonna fall into that so I'm saying like
and that's also another reason why I think this you know talk about classic class will be
immense failure is that people don't know what they they want there are 10
different groups that are all screaming at Blizzard give me the game I want
because some of them want TBC but how TBC was at impacts 2.0 and some people
want TBC in 2.3 and some people want Raph some people want this some people
want more some people you know like yeah yeah they all think they're getting what
they want. No one's gonna get what they want. Blizzard is not talking to anyone. Blizzard is not
saying anything about this. They haven't even announced it. And I would think in BlizzCon,
the only thing that when I would be excited about this, because I am a boomer, MMO gamer now.
I like the progression side of things of your character building. So the only way I am
excited is if they are saying we are creating a new game a new IP in the
wow universe it's completely separate from wow it's an MMO in the Warcraft
universe but it might as well have just been you know I'm not saying it's an
RTS but it might as well have been called Warcraft 4 you know like the
development team of this game should have nothing with wow to do they should
be completely separate. You don't need to match, you create a new MMO, a new game. And
that thing is not killing itself every single patch.
It's very interesting, but does that take the players from Retail then to this new one?
I don't think so. I really don't think so. And then if you were in this world, let Retail
be retailed on. Like then you can go balls to the wall with retail. Stop hoping about
trying to bring in classic players every single expansion because they're not coming back.
The game is not the same anymore. We are in like this competitive-esque
where people like pushing M-plots and people like doing the new raid. Maybe it's not that
important anymore that we have spent a million developer hours on a world quest that no one
ever completes like maybe you then go a little bit I'm not saying it becomes this game you know what
I mean but like yeah you go more in that side of things let the collectors have stuff to collect
obviously it's a lot of them that plays this game but then retail wow would be like you come here to
raid and do competitive dungeons and play a very complicated class right where we give you a new
tier set that changes your rotation and the rotation is fine and this etc and
then you would have a completely different game under the same company
and that's a progression based on them all. I would be interesting and I think
it's I don't know it's definitely I don't think anyone's really like kind of
put put that thought out there either. Yeah I mean I just I can't see them doing it
I can't see them getting away, I know I'm coping, I'm coping.
Oh yeah, but it's, I don't know, I just, I also wonder how long, how long it all strings
on for, to in terms of like when we get to last Titan, like what is, I mean I guess we
just get another expansion and we do we do the same dance again oh no i'm excited this is
and this is where it this is where it gets uh challenging i guess because you know that
i don't feel like the war within i don't feel like it was bad like i actually really enjoyed a lot
of the raids in the war within. I thought we had some really good raids in the war within.
Like, fantastic. Some of the best ones we've seen. No complaints on that. I just feel like
we didn't progress very far in what's going on. And I don't know, I'm definitely not a law honky.
Like, I'm not keeping up to date with what's going on. I know Xalatas has got some feet and stuff
like that but I'm not about that and I guess if that's going to be my argument then caring about
not progressing very far in the story you probably don't have a fair complaint to but just kind of
feel like we didn't go anywhere and now we're in midnight and I wonder how far we'll sort of progress
with that and I don't know Dragonflight I feel like we had this giant set up with a reticron and
all this kind of stuff and then it just it just kind of went nowhere like it just was done and then
we're into this now. I have another question and this is not only for you darkmech but maybe to
the chat as well. What's a successful new system to WoW that is not mythic plus? What's the last
successful system in this game.
On the storm.
I feel like that's like a game-mode-niche.
It is, it is.
A system.
Yeah, so we have Delves, we have the tower in Shadowlands,
Island from BFA.
do you know I kind of feel like I mean it did come back I kind of feel like the
mage tower really never got its iteration it should have I feel like
Torgas was supposed to be the iteration on the mage tower and fell giga flat but
I think the beauty about things like the mage tower and proving grounds is that
it had kind of an infinite scalability to it. Like if kind of like how keys do, um, I
feel like they could have done something like that with combining proving grounds,
tall gas and the mage tower. And I think that would be kind of interesting for a new system,
especially if you made, I mean, we're going into seasons again here, which I don't know
if that's the way to do it. But I mean, if you're lining this up against Dalves M plus
Everything else is better have seasons anyway. Yeah, it's I think they've to be fair though
They kind of have done this with delves anywhere where we've had like Kai Vezer and things like that as bosses
I think it would be cool for them to do
where our characters as bosses so like your
Whatever you want to call if you want to call it the delves style boss a mage power boss
whatever but you do like tail or you have a leery as one or you have Illidan as
one or you have Tyrion as one I think rotating through like named lore
characters through seasons would be kind of cool to do something like that and
then you just tie you know we saw it for the Delves this time but there was a
Hall of Fame for it I think that would be really cool to iterate on it cosmetics
hard to it. It would just be, I mean, it's a solo gameplay style in an MMO, which is
dangerous, obviously. But I think something like that would be cool. You could also very
well open a style of that up to something like five man content as well. Like if you
made basically raid bosses for five players, like I think that would be kind of cool too.
But if we just like, I think everyone, I hope would agree, but Mage Tower, the first iteration
I'm talking about, great success, almost everyone loved that content.
Why do you think, this is not a gotcha, I'm just like, why do we think they haven't developed
a thing like that again?
I don't know. I think it was it was it was phenomenal because people love cosmetic rewards in the end of the day because it's a treadmill.
Your gear item level eventually goes to wash but trans mog is forever, bro.
Like.
I, you know, it's the same with challenge modes.
People loved challenge modes because of the cosmetic armor that you have.
And I actually am a big fan in another trinket getting trinkets galore on this boss, which is good
Seven runs down seven runs down. I think
There has to be scarcity in
Things in Warcraft. I think that's what can makes that that treadmill loop kind of continue on its way
I think it's good if there's some exclusive things in the game that you perhaps can't get any more
And even if you weren't playing them, it's kind of like bad luck as long as you are providing
new sources of things for people who are playing that they can obtain and then eventually it will
go and they'll have it because they're playing now. Do you know what I mean? Like as long as you are
continuing to offer items of scarcity or rarity and things like that or time sensitive, you know,
quests to get things better, their armor or weapons appearances. I think as long as they're
on a regular loop it's okay and that's what the mage tower did so well that's
what challenge modes did so well and then they just they stopped I don't know
why here's what I will heavily disagree with you my friend okay I think mage
tower is not being developed again because it took a lot of time to develop
and they know they will kill it next patch.
And I think a lot of content ideas
that brilliant developers have probably falls into this basket of
we could do this. It sounds like a great idea
but this is not something we can build upon
so we will have to like instantly scrap it to the side
next patch. And so let's not work in that direction. Let's work
On a system that we know that we can continually evolve and reiterate on so like every system will have to be something like a
Delve where you can add another Delve or next expansion there can be a new set of Delves or next expansion
There will be new and plus I
Think instead of looking at it from the perspective of like
mage tower was great for its time and
The exclusivity of it not being attainable anymore makes it
better I think it would be insanely good if mage tower at the difficulty it was in
like the tomb boss of regeris patch yeah when I came out if that was always
available and as long as you completed the challenge you get the reward as long
as you've got an ability to go back to half classes were yeah it should be when
new step so then we can take the idea that you just made now we can allocate
developer time to creating a solo raid boss ish where we fight you know what you
said like to run the someone said in chat or any of the bosses you're talking
about now we're allowed to put in this development type because people will be
able to enjoy this going on in you know all the turning of the world warcraft and
I think the cosmetic part of it is great, like mage tower just gave cosmetic rewards,
but people loved it, because it was a challenge, and you were like, you got some proof, oh
I did this, I don't think it takes away from me at least, if I got my weapon two years
ago, and you just did the challenge today, but it was the same difficulty now, as when
I did it, and you just got it too, I wouldn't be like, wait you got it five years later,
I would be like, oh, you did you enjoy the same content I did. Yeah, I mean, I'm so happy for you.
I think you'd have to be pretty precious to care about it. But I think that would also give you
evergreen content in a game that has a lot of content. And that's, I guess, the one of the
issues that you you raised before in terms of like, with seasons, when it just ends, it's the same
with this kind of content that's developed and it just ends it's gone but that way it would still be
present doesn't matter I don't think it matters that there's videos on YouTube from people telling
you how to do it and you know maybe you were 12 years old when it came out and now you're 16 and
you're better at the game so you can just go back and do it like I don't see an issue with it I think
I think that would be a great idea. I think that would be great for the game.
But again, why it hasn't been done? I don't know.
We need a dev to come on where we can just absolutely bash them with questions like this and see what response we get.
You know what the unfortunate reality is?
A dev will never be able to talk about any of this.
The only developer that would be able to talk about this is someone that left Blizzard and is mad
want to like talk about the bad stuff only you know yeah like that's the
problem with stuff like this unfortunately it's like no one that is in the
know about it yeah ever talk about it to any extent where it matters and the
only people that know were in on it and do want to talk about it are only gonna
talk about it because they were mad about something or disagreed with
something yeah I mean yeah I don't know it's it's completely off topic but I'm
just thinking back to where I when I got to go to Liz con HQ and I got to talk
to Taryn Gregory who gave us a tour round and I was like why don't you make a
TV show like why why is there not why is there not a Netflix like World of
Warcraft show why is there not a CGI series of this or even in the you know
like the Warlords of Draenor shorts that were done like in that sketched sort
of style with Cargath Blade Fist and things like that like why isn't there a
show and he was like because we make games here not TV shows and I was like
come on man like I just and yeah I just I think there's so much there's so much
that could come out of this universe that just just doesn't and I don't know
if that's I don't know why maybe it's too expensive maybe maybe he is right
maybe they they don't make TV shows but I mean you can't tell me that a Lich King
movie series wouldn't absolutely like kick ass an illidan one like you just
have to you've got to go with all the edge lords but like it would be
phenomenal it would have been better than would be absolutely insane yeah yeah and
I mean I didn't like orcs I didn't like the warcraft movie I was I was not a fan
of that I thought it was a thing to own and that's a regard to me on a I well
each time I bought it up because it generally comes up sort of like on
on Twitter or when you're talking about it while you're on break like we are now, generally
a lot of people actually really enjoyed it and the book The Last Guardian was kind of
what they based the movie sort of around and what they were doing and I loved The Last
Guardian, I think it was one of the first WoW books I read and then I watched the movie
and I was kind of like shh, like this, this was not it and I get them if they thought
We'll make a movie here and this is our starting point with like orcs and human style like we started the games
And then if it if it's successful we can move on throughout the universe
But they needed to start with a win
You know, they needed to start with like henry cavill as arthas kind of deal and go
Go bang straight away. I don't know who the hell would I don't know who would play illidan like
I don't know
Maybe I put keanu Reeves in there
I don't know
I just, I feel like they needed a real win and then I feel we could have got a lot more of that Worldcraft universe
Like even Arcane, like Arcane from League of Legends
Like sick and I've never even played a League of Legends before, ever
I watched Arcane, I was like, I need to know more about League of Legends
Like, yeah, the Mervynrad
I mean I used to play League and I'm like, the game is so bad now
Yeah, and then I watched our cane instantly installed it again, you know, like it works
so
Yeah, actually
actually so good
but
Yeah, if you are just tuning in we are talking utter rubbish. It's because we're on the lunch break at the moment
20 minutes, I think got thrown up for the lunch break. We've done seven
splits of
Chimeras, so I'm I'm I'm praying to Jebus that that's it for Chimeras
Then we're gonna get into some void spire splits
And that'll probably
What what are you what are you gonna bank on for time-wise for voids by a split we say five bosses?
Five bosses that would then include the paladins as well in your mind
Mm-hmm
Yes, sir
Because paladins and I'm talking sopping character
Etc. Etc. An hour and a half
An hour and a half. Oh, I was hoping they'd be nailing them in like 60 minutes like uber efficiency
If we do if we do an hour and a half
I'm including like you're are you're including getting there yadda yadda
yeah get it like getting the loot out basically from you enter a run until you
enter the next round I'm saying an hour and a half
okay
Uh, so...
That get us up to dinner.
Like it'll be...
It'll be 12 pretty much by the time they start.
That'll get us to like 7, 7, 30, everything going well.
It'll be kind of interesting to... I mean, the splits have to go well too.
That'll be fair.
I wonder if we did manage to knock all that over if then we would do alleria mythic splits tonight
after I don't know if that feels weird to say too I think if if they ever do allerious mythic
splits that will be something they are like pulling out later on I think today will be like do the
fast easy quick ones we know we get a lot of gear off and will be very efficient no matter
what we do yeah i will like include what we just saw like mrs carmarious the easier bosses in
music voidspire uh we even saw like hero heroic and stuff in voidspire earlier today
then we still have hero exploits in midnight falls right oh so we haven't finished march of
Oh, no. Have we even done any of that yet? Have we even set them in there?
Not a single one.
Okay, so we've got normal and heroic splits to still do in there too.
Okay. I wonder if we go do them after...
If we're finished with Cameras, I wonder if we go do them after lunch,
like Valoran and March, and then going to Void Spice, but...
Midnight Falstens drop Curios, right?
So it could be that they do everything else first and then they go to Midnight Falls heroic
to like if there's a character that has absolutely insane mythic loot but did not get like high
items that will be tiered then maybe they will use a curio on that one character or something.
I think they do voids by Split Flath. I don't know. We're gonna throw it out into the universe
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All right, guys, we are back with Noggy to look at the WAGWAP.
I'm going to be installing now's new UI.
Some things have obviously changed with the WAGWAP
since we call it no longer a thing.
But the UI import feature is still working
and still used by a lot of the big content creators out there,
including now.
And we're going to go through the installation steps here
with Noggy to get that installed.
So I can see both full installation and expert mode again.
Do you want to give us a quick rundown
of what the difference is between full installation
and expert mode, just so people know?
Yeah, certainly.
So full installation should usually be
the correct choice for most players.
It is completely modular.
You can choose which add-on profiles you want to install
and which ones you don't want to install.
Expert mode is for the experts among you
if you know exactly what you're doing
or you only want very specific profiles,
maybe you only want the LVI profile,
an expert mode is probably for you.
For most people, full installation should be the way to go.
All right, so we're gonna go with full installation,
and I'm playing on a 14.8p monitor.
And it's detected that I'm playing Hunter,
so I'm gonna import the three CDNs for Hunter.
And did you wanna add any context here?
Yeah, so these profiles,
this is the new cooldown manager profiles
that is not added, and they are class specific.
So sadly, we cannot import them on classes
that we currently not on.
So we can only do the hunter ones right now,
but you can always open up the Vago UIPACs window
with slash Vago in game again,
and update CDM profiles for other classes.
All right, perfect.
So I'm gonna click Next.
And here it's asking me which profiles I would like to install.
and I want to import all naturally.
So I'm gonna, I think for you next.
And it's just reminding me again
that the following profiles will be installed.
So I'm gonna click install profiles, okay?
Yeah, this should take care of everything for you.
So new installation complete, enjoying new UI.
We're gonna do a reload.
All right, and with this reload, I should now have the brand new now UI for midnight.
Perfect. It's telling me since I'm in a raid that I'm missing flash food and weapon.
That's awkward. My pet is on the passive as well.
Yeah, this looks clean actually. Looks good.
Yes, some new features as well. You can see in the top there's a little information bar with the clock.
in a thing so that looks kind of cool I mean I would like to pass that out but
I'm afraid these mobs inside the raid are a little bit a little bit too hard
probably to attack what we're going for the big one
of course
well I'm getting angry here I think the wiping school you got to use the full
UI to survive okay that was a mistake that's it looks like nice UI can't even
and save me maids guys.
All right guys, I've just logged on my warrior since my alt
and I see the first thing that pops up here is the waggle app.
So what do I want to do here, Noghi?
Yeah, so this is a cool new feature that we have for alts.
So because you already have all of the profiles installed,
a lot of add-ons don't actually activate those profiles.
So this is a little helper that we can just load
all of those profiles that are already on your wow
and set them to it, and then we should be good to go from that.
Yeah, we're going to load the profiles from the Hunter.
Then we're going to do reload UI.
Yeah, it should be the UI being done.
And now if you also want to use, for example, the CDM profile
from now, then you can open up slash Vivo.
Yep.
And now you are in export mode, and you
you can just install the CDM profiles directly from here.
OK.
And then you will need a reload.
There's a button in the top right.
And you have all of the CDM profiles on your warrior as well.
And UI is good to go.
We're still playing the set-class expansion, it seems.
But we're good to go.
I think the UI will more than compensate for that.
Well, thank you very much, Noggy, for showing us how the WAG work seems to be extremely
easy to download and install UIs, and yeah, I must admit, like UIs are looking almost
as customizable as they were in the last expansion, so lots of good stuff coming out from the
community in regards to all the add-ons and the creators and everything, so...
Yeah, we are adding more and more add-ons over time.
There's a lot of new add-ons popping up.
lots of ui packs on the Vagra app, check it out guys and see you midnight.
Yep, thanks for watching guys, thanks for the UI now and make sure you check out the Vagra app. Let's go method.
and we're back what up chat we didn't go anywhere neither did you because you
love splits just as much as us self and shaken back taken looks like he just
had an opportunity bro what what was my like oh we didn't go anywhere neither
did you because you love splits just as much as we do or something
uh did i do i did i do what or did i not do it no you did not do it that's why i did my little
disappointment face damn it god damn it
all right don't mix back chat welcome back you didn't go anywhere indeed i don't even know
what i said anymore i'm sorry it's gone it's gone i don't have it anymore i don't even remember
my own rhyme. There it is though. There it is. So if you are just tuning in, lunch break for the
players. Early lunch, 11.30. I believe that's because they have been starting earlier in the mornings,
which is a bit of a shock, I think, to some of the gamer systems. I was listening to some comms
listening a few days ago when the race kind of was getting into its stride. There were a lot of
people that were hungry at 11 a.m. Can we take lunch? Can we take lunch? So I think we've kind of
lined into this early lunch, 11.30 kind of meme now. And it's just sort of stuck with it. How has
our bedtime been shaking? Have we been staying up later? Have we been hard capped at like 10 p.m.
kind of deal? It's been like 8 or 9 p.m. 8 or 9 p.m. Yeah. Wow. They're the kind of hours I can get
around as an old dude. I can get around this. Before we go anywhere though chat I do want to
give a very big shout out to Flugu who donated $50 he dues to the Movember charity down the bottom
and I didn't have the Tiltify link up and now I do so just wanted to say a huge big thank you for
that with a method message go method go so thank you very much absolute chat for that
thank you so much from our back did you zip up your top did you put a new top on
no i don't think it was always okay i think so all right okay i'll allow it i'll allow it
see all right we've been what what no no this is gonna say
No worry about it. Go on.
Alright, we were talking about before we went on this little break.
Oh, we get a wheel. We get a wheel spin.
I haven't been here, so I don't understand this.
Production, can we spin the wheel please?
What is the wheel spin? Spin the wheel!
Number four, huh, gang?
Spin the wheel!
The production is spinning the wheel. What's on the wheel shaken?
It's challenges for us to do a sort of...
There's not this dancing shit again, is there?
I have danced. I have done a documentary. I have done a...
Documentary?
No, but like a nature documentary style commentating.
Oh, please, someone clipped it, surely.
And then I've also done a like soul what's it called when you're like a monologue about
Oh, yeah
Yeah, about favo
Yeah
You're sick
And I don't know if anyone else has spun the wheel. I'm not gonna lie every time
Ray could have spun the wheel. Yeah with me yesterday. Yeah. Uh, yeah
Yeah
It's been productions working on it productions working on a chat they're working on it they're working on it
Are we at voids bar down the bottom?
Looks like it. Yeah looks like it to me
All right, so I don't think they're feeling more than four groups. So we're looking good seems to be my thing. Oh
Okay, I could get around no heroics, but I could get around that
I mean, they did heroic earlier in the morning. So today we've already done that. I missed that and in boys by area
Wait, but not the new the new rate March. No
And you know what I'm happy to go into March and do normal and heroic splits because it's some different
It's up new it's and and to be fair
Valoran is a cool boss gave me instant flashes to ashes of a la for obvious reasons
um and really didn't keep much from that fight at all except for the dive bombs. The dive bombs
are not the only thing that's borrowed over from there and it's very cool and it is a bird. It is
a bird um so it is it is very cool. It is very cool. I'm a big fan of ballon. I loved the tank
mechanic on that with the light and dark switches. I mean it's it's real simple taunt swaps but I
I thought it was cool.
I love the pizza changing color in the middle as well.
That gave me flashbacks to what was Sage of Orgrim boss
with Pizza Cut.
Starts with M, I reckon.
And it helped from Chatter, I think.
Pizza, oh, here's the wheel.
Oh.
Here is the wheel.
Here it is.
Curse of tongues.
What's that mean?
Oh, they're spinning.
We have it somewhere.
Malkorok, that was it.
Stampede.
I think analogies about the boss dungeon referencing nature
of the animal kingdom.
OK, so we need some, yeah, I don't really
know how this will work, because Rage had this idea,
and she said, oh, it would be good if only one caster got
to know one thing they had to make an analogy about,
than the other cast that would have to be like, but then.
I don't know how this is gonna work, so.
I think it's okay, I think it's okay,
I think we can do this,
I think we're just the duo to pull this off.
All right.
I think we're just the team to pull this off,
especially if we're heading into the first boss,
the Void Spa, I think I've already got one.
Oh, you're loaded up already.
I think I've already got one.
Oh, God, damn it.
This came to me.
It's because you've been casting for a while
and I'm as fresh as a pancake at I help.
So, you know, I'm new.
I'm new.
You're back.
We just have to make analogies
about boss mechanic that fits into nature.
That's true, yeah?
That's right.
Okay, sure.
Is that right?
Is that what it was?
Sounds, that's definitely an interpretation that works.
Yeah, I think that works perfectly.
i'm looking at this this raid composition right now
are you looking for your thing
uh... no no no i i'm just looking
so quips on blood
and now i know
what can we do allerio
for kill
uh... really matters
i think now is on blood
So, this is interesting.
And it's just a split, you know?
Yeah, and it could just be, it could actually,
yeah, cause you wouldn't maybe Quep will bring his warrior
and now bring his DK to the next one actually.
Let's go with that, that'll make sense.
Yeah, I'm gonna set up for a pull on the Tic Tac Toe Boss.
What did you think of the Tic Tac Toe Boss
for an opening boss, or an opening boss I think it's great, I think it's great.
I thought it was pretty cool, I don't feel like it's overly, like you know how generally
first anywhere from one to three eventually ends up getting pugged kind of thing like
as the tier progresses, I feel like it's a fairly good opening boss.
Yeah, I mean I definitely agree.
And a lot of guilds wiped too, like not killing the ad fast enough, like a lot of them.
Yeah, I mean the DPS check that normal people meet versus what is encountered for these,
like for the big three is completely different, like completely different.
I'm still thinking, and I'm not gonna be here with this one, Doris.
I might just do it wrong, so we'll just see how we go.
Ready check's gone up, though.
This is good.
Onto Imperator we go.
Getting some voids by our MythicSplits chat.
Who thought we would ever, ever say that?
Alright, here we go.
Onto the 9-Zone Tic-Tac-Toe Reverse Tic-Tac-Toe Boss.
Let three zones get claimed so we are on board with deep shades here our number one warlock
recruit back in the house and I had hoped to see him doing more damage at the moment
I'll be honest.
All right, so the ads pop up, but there's a different mechanic in mythic there are these
shields around them like a quarter shell if you will these quarter shells need to be broken
by dispells on debuffed players.
There'll be six people to get the debuff of Weidmark, three adds, two players are gonna
go to the first and then you're gonna master spell the rest on this second turtle shell
which you can see us moving over here and two turtle shells gone and there's a nature
analogy.
Damn!
Nailed it.
And they look like turtle shells too.
They came to actually.
They're shells.
I am.
I am.
That was pretty good.
I thought that's that one that immediately came to me.
shells for the additional shells we had to break by the dispels I thought that
was really good I thought that was really good chat what did you think was it
good 10 out of 10 yeah it's good was good it was good I'm gonna dodge some
lines here easy peasy I did like this I thought the concept of reverse tic-tac-toe
was really cool I like that you wanted to keep like the front clear and the mid
for as long as you could so you had easy pathways to get out of the march I
I thought the march was really cool kind of gave me like
Anduin vibes to some extent
Um, you know in that like crossover realm you had the march going on
Uh, I thought the the mythic mechanic change was cool as well. I like these little uh
Well, actually this was absolute chaos like on day one where you didn't know who the dispels and that were on because you
Didn't see anything that was that was chaos, but apart from that the idea really really good
Yeah, I mean, I think this was like we said a good first boss
Yeah
Move over here on this next one. We're gonna kill it with tank slap again. I like that being a part of it as well like
The the tank mechanics actually feeding into the ad
Mechanics, I thought that was a nice change in blizzard because again
There is only so many things you can do with with tank mechanics and pawn swaps
even the stacks on this as well I thought was cool because generally you
would want one tank on the boss one tank on the ads and then you would
generally from what we've seen in race world first taunt during the March once
the stacks dropped off it's a health stacking debuff as well so nothing really
knew about that I did like which we'd seen back in like Boonat days it was a
similar mechanic but the tanks with the highest stacks from the boss is the tank
that the ads all run through so I thought that was a really cool inclusion on
this. So yeah I think they did a really good job around this and we shouldn't see any issues in
splitting this boss march coming out now so we're just gonna get our safety lanes here.
We see these ads running around sort of like a full ant farm running to that one piece of
piece of sweet on the other side. It's like someone is moving it and toying with them. You
have seen those youtube videos when they're like giving one ant the last bit and then they remove
it and the entire army just comes. Here the army is coming all the army fans. It's running at this
sweet stuff. I'm looking at Deep Shades right now. Deep Shades has ascended to number two on the
damage meter so big shout out to Farbo there. This is the kind of player this is the kind of
player I expect from a player of his caliber of a player of his price tag if you will.
So good to see. Good to see Farbo. Eight world first. He is absolutely one of the best
And he's getting in position here for his disbow. Disbow is gonna go off just in time there. Everyone in the tank smash here
Share the damage out of that and get rid of the ad and away it goes
Well, we got left on the boss 20% now
If I'm trying to think about bubble, it's he's very humble. He's always great. He's always humble
We got a really good trinket light company drops off this
So it is actually a which is nice to see it's always good I think especially for the casual
populace that well when I say casual populace I mean the people that pug like the first
couple of mythic bosses always good when like you know the first few mythic bosses have
loot that's obtainable via pugging so really good shrink it off this boss so wait and see
what drops but the first boss in our we don't know how many splits we're thinking maybe
four four or five splits in here maybe four maybe four we thinking yeah I'm
thinking four four splits but that's possible four does sound good and then
maybe we can get some ballerine pools in for the normal and heroic splits and
see some are allura pools as well this spike mechanic on this one boss would
you say that's more like a puffer fish where it goes out and comes back in or
like hedgehog style where oh you were thinking about that the whole time I
We just got we just got dog loot. That's not what we want on split number one
I mean pasta fish words. I mean you did it. You said ants. I did
Boss is not finished. We're doing one boss and then we're done with it. Then I'm scrapping it then I'm finished
You know, yeah, I keep you dance. I think
I'm sorry
Yeah, you didn't you had ants ants was good. We had turtles. We had ants and neutral pasta fish in the end
I think that's worth easily easily with the $50 don't know. Of course
The amount of efforts we put into this stuff should be appreciated. So damn straight damn straight
All right, heading off to the second boss now voracious, which gotta be honest with you
Yeah, didn't didn't really think too much of this boss shaking. I mean, I know it's a second boss. Yeah, I
I just, I just thought it was a bit plain for a second boss, you know?
Can't you say that about a lot of bosses in this red?
I can, but I think, I think despite tuning, like, Dragons, Fallen King, I mean, Council
was, the Paladins were great anyway, but I think Fallen King and Valgor and Ezraq were
still cool bosses.
this one, this one like, I don't know, like, I think, I think that's a risk with stationary
bosses that you generally have. But this one was literally like, don't stand in circle,
two walls, each side, put blister creeps, like, three on mythic to each wall, blow them up.
Yeah. And that's it. You know, very, very plain. I kind of feel like Tarros in Vault of the Incarnate
had more to it you know that's what I was gonna say I remember Terra's like
you had to squeeze at the end when you could stand in like the Enrage all four were about to be
filled yeah it's standing in the Cheetah Dust and then it was a lot like melee move
melee stay go together to pop the things it was a lot of that stuff yeah yeah
Had some more stuff. Yep. I don't know. I just felt like this one was was a bit kind of
Bit lackluster, but that's that's all right
Hopefully we make very very quick. Oh, I should have started a timer. I reckon we started at about
905 chat what time did we start how long we've been going it's hard to say right just I feel like we sort
even in the break or was it early on when we started again?
It started clearing trash a little bit earlier than probably it was like some
people got back from their food faster.
I reckon I'm counting all of it, like trash and food.
Let's say nine o'clock, let's say we came back at...
But what's nine o'clock for me, sorry.
Let's say we came back at twelve.
I was gonna say we've been here for a while.
I love her.
I say we came back at 12.
So let's keep an eye on how long this first split takes.
And that will sort of set us up hopefully for where we're going.
So second boss now of our mythic split.
Is it a myth, do you call it a mythic split?
Reclear or is it just a mythic split?
Yeah, for sure.
Mythic split.
Reclear.
It makes it sound like mythic split.
Yeah, we're almost done, yeah.
That's true.
All right.
We're almost back to Pagora.
We're almost there, we're almost there.
Slam's coming out now, so we got our first wall on the left.
We're gonna dodge our donut circles,
which made me think of Korok.
Back in Bolting Gardens, I think it was Korok.
Was someone like, that was the totem dude.
So we got two walls on each side now,
so we need to get three of the little blister creeps
explode on them, and then that will shut the walls down,
and then we'll be able to pick a side to go through.
So again, just dodging donuts.
If you stayed nice in Malay range,
actually really easy to dodge the donuts.
You can just walk inside to the gap every time.
So not playing far out is a pro tip here.
As you can see, just being able to stay in that,
didn't have to move anywhere.
Got the parasite expulsion coming out now.
So we're gonna have our little ads coming out.
We're gonna gateway off to the back for in range.
These are gonna fixate and it'll just be going
pretty much to the side that your ad is on.
So if you're on the wrong side,
you'll be moving to a different one.
DK's will be gripping their adds over.
You can see on the right side here,
we've got three adds coming in.
They're all, oh, we've got four.
They're all gonna blow up on there, dodging these.
And that's gonna clear up our walls.
One more add should clear the wall.
Pretty sure four went over there.
Yeah, yeah, I did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And now we just need to pick a side.
Boss is absolutely melted by the way, 67% already.
Now we're just gonna pick a side to dodge this void breath,
which can go on any side,
but we're heading off to the right now,
which is nice and safe.
And that's it.
That's the whole fight chat.
So that is the whole fight.
For reference, this group on the first boss was
five eye level higher than the last split they did last week.
Ooh, okay.
So this group is almost 271.
Yep.
Which is like the eye level they killed Alaria with almost,
you know.
That's kind of bonkers, isn't it?
gearing absolutely insane which we have spoken about ad nauseam realistically it is just crazy
the amount of gear that we've been able to reach throughout this and I think that's been
reflected in the changes that we've seen to ballerine and midnight falls realistically
like they kind of knew they were like I think each time they set out and they as we have
mentioned before they don't plan things around the race to world first but I think they always
like not discount but I don't think they ever properly evaluate the levels of
degeneracy that race to world first guilds will seek to like I don't think
they ever they ever really hit that right and that's the the ongoing challenge
with Lizard and fighting these just can't be correct though like it's not
inevitable math right yeah you look at like okay what is the spammable content
they can do yeah split we've made a right in yeah and then you have x
amount of crests and you would just then do the math unlike in a perfect world
with up like infinite time how much I level could you get weak one
But then maybe that just sets up that argument that we spoke about earlier as well where they just don't really care about the race to the world first.
They might tune the bosses around that, but anything outside of that scope don't really care.
And that might very well be the thing, and that's okay.
That is okay, for sure.
You know I did like on this boss and not that you needed it like at all but the fact that like you could have kind of
When the enraged beam goes off on this boss it goes on the tank
Like when you hit the enraged beam
So if you ever needed to actually squeeze more damage out of this
You could have just had your tank yolo off to like a far side or your rep paladin with like a torn the bubble
go off to the like I like that that kind of existed in this boss and that might
very well be a determining factor for you know lower rank guilds but I thought
that was a cool feature in this because you don't really know which way the
beam's gonna go but the enrage one did go on tank aggro so I liked that there
was like a window at the end of that I like those little nuances in fight.
Too bad we didn't get to see it too much you know. I'm glad we didn't get to see it
If we were hitting in rage on the second boss, I'd be putting my resume under liquid store kind of thing like so, you know
We're happy we're not saying that we're happy we're not saying that
The voracious about to go down six percent left on this one. Where's my man deep shades a lot of movement through this one
He does have two other warlocks above him though. One is demon. Oh, uh, yeah, it's interesting
that's that's interesting I thought demo got knocked into the ground oh yeah
they're all yeah so did I but like deep shades lost to him so Ross lock given
far above a bit of a surf there that's interesting you have to have to resin
about that one just just to say it this deep deep shades character is 266 I
level okay fire cat is at 275 and Ross lock is at 273 so he is like I'll give
him a pass I don't like it when you come in with facts and then then Shelle is
two eye levels higher than deep shields as well
ah wow Shella you see why that's why he's an analyst right that's why he's an analyst that's exactly right that's why he's an analyst yeah
Yeah, I do miss cellar in the raid. I will say isn't it kind of weird the fact that like
Like Reuben was always the Robin just shall I as Batman and then and then Reuben gets in a raid slot and shallers like
You know what I'm out. I'm done. I'm going to analyst territory. I
I
Wonder if that was I wonder if that was a thing by them where it was like I
Can't be I can't be in a world first raid team with you if if you do something that's like if you tilt
I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. I don't know. I
I don't know baby. I'm not keys and raiding together and live together. I don't know. I don't know but it's yeah
It's it's a shame they probably could have been dare I say the only couple in
In the race to a first yield environment. I have no proof of that. I have no idea of that
But I'm good outside of fragrance a wild animal
Yeah
No, but
Yeah, me being me being the nicest person and since shella public public
Well, he he flamed me at the last bit flame you I could see that I could see
So, um, I don't know how much it was cellist choice. Oh
All right, all right
Shallow Creek there keeps one. That's off we go
Who knows who knows maybe I'm wrong knows who knows we are
24 minutes into our void first
We are absolutely banging through these bosses right now get through this trash as quick as we possibly can
I was hoping for like 45 minutes to 60 minutes per split shaken was like a bit of a negative
He was at an hour 30. He's at 90 minutes
That is I think we're better than that paladins right like I think I think we can do paladins and still be within that range
All right. All right. I
Think if we want to have a claim here to one or two, that's where we need to be. I'm throwing it out there
there. I'm throwing it out there. 24 minutes, two bosses down. We have fallen King Saladhan
now. I mean, we're on pace.
Ish, yeah.
Ish, yeah, we're on pace-ish. So there we go, we need one shot to continue chat. We need
your support to do it. Please make sure to, I have no idea what the command is to be like,
information mark roster or team or something like that, but for the love of all that is holy
Energy drinks
Please go and follow the method roster the method players
Goes a long way into keeping them hyped up through this race new support
It also goes a long way into method being out of push out for more sponsors
Better things for their players better sponsorship for their players
High pay for their players all that kind of stuff if the social reach amplifies
So if you can follow the players on that roster, it does a lot more than you probably think so into fallen king
Saladar we go mythic split number one. Here we go
Here we go shaken yeah, what did we think of this fight? I actually liked this part. I thought it was pretty cool. I
I
Like I said before I hoped that this fight. I mean I didn't really think it would be but it this is one of the bosses
I think has enough
interesting mechanics
to
Have been very cool if it was tighter tune
Yeah, because this or mechanic where you kill the big warps and then they become small orbs for the most
Yeah, you want to kill them close together so that you can a we it
Yeah, if that was tighter, it would be a lot more interesting
Yeah, well, this is the thing I think I
Mean, I know you're speaking to it from a race to world first perspective obviously as well
But if you're in like if you're in a Yolo
like, you know
Strugglesville guild to kind of get through the raid this this even like if if you reach this on mythic
in your own that kind of level this will be so hectic because like you mentioned like you kill
the orbs they don't actually despawn like they do in normal on rog they lead these small ones then
you end up kiting them around which gave me massive yasma vibes from battle for azeroth with the
with the purple spiders um and you can't let them hit the boss but it means that your tanks have an
enormous responsibility in regards to moving the boss around to group those orbs up to then be able
able to continually kite it through and they can't hit.
You've also got these like the five point formations
coming out from the debuffs as well,
where you're placing, where you're trying to make
a safe zone around melee.
And then you've got this intropic unrattling as well
where you're coasting around.
So it can get really hectic really quickly.
And if you've got like low damage or just people
that are full yellowing with the orbs and things like that,
it get out of hand pretty quickly, I think.
You're watching it from-
I understand what you're saying, but as long as you find your W key and 1, 2, 3, 4, and spacebar, I think you're good, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I think there's a lot of tank... I think to be fair, there's a lot of tank responsibility on this one.
I feel like the cleanliness of this fight is dictated very heavily by your tanks.
Like being able to get to the new orb spot, like the concentrated void spot quickly first,
being able to navigate through the small orbs, being able to line it up, being able to position
the Vosphire and offer for walls to rotate around those beams and things like that,
I feel like there's a fair bit of tank responsibility in this one, but maybe it's
generally sort of overlooked and not something that generally even really happens because tanks
generally kind of like taunt on three, taunt on four, taunt on debuff drop, whatever,
But this one had a bit more. I thought it was good.
Yeah.
You had the images you needed to interrupt too. That was kind of cool.
We just saw the star mechanic.
And that, like, visual is the same on Lura, the last boss of Martian Quildenas.
So...
But on that boss, it doesn't extend further than the star pattern.
Yeah.
But on this one it's like the star pattern just so it's like a aiming point for where the spikes would grow
So when I saw the the star pattern the first time on that boss, I was like, oh, how far are these?
Yeah, cuz I was like I knew it wasn't spikes
But I was like this is the aiming point that the lines will be bigger when it explodes
was it
I mean, I've already forgotten it was it
What was the boss?
In the last raid that had the rings that looked like the shattering twilight
Which is the spiky lines that come out on this one the rings. What was that boss? Was it Nexus? Was it Nexus King?
I think so. Yeah, I kind of I like how they stuck with that. Yeah. Yeah, it's Nexus King
Yeah, I like how they stuck with
that sort of theme like this this raid feels like it's taken I mean it's
obviously a void themed raid but they took sort of all those I suppose
textures and and things like that we were quite familiar with from the last
raid and bought them into that this raid and I actually didn't mind that it
was pretty cool I mean void textures always look great like it's like dark and
and then a little bit of a blue outline.
It's like eclipse-ish, you know?
I think it's always gonna be good.
Bangers, we've been casting Mythic,
or more ever since you guys left,
they were like, Mythic splits.
And this is our fifth Void-Spire split.
We're about to go into Baloran.
We are crazy ahead.
We are crazy ahead.
Yeah, everything is just working out perfectly for us.
Everything's working out perfectly if you're shaking an eye, absolutely.
Alright, there goes Nexus King. He's down. What are we? 31 minutes in, three bosses.
We are motoring right now. We just need a quick transition over to the dragons.
Do you see like the Deep Shades ego right now? Did you see it?
What did you?
He just looked at the damage meter. Rosslock is number one right now.
Instantly inspecting him, what kind of gear does this guy have, like there's no way he's beating me normally
Deep Sheds
He's just waiting just wait until I get to play my main in this run
I'm looking forward to it
I'm looking forward to actually I pray that I get to cast some form of progression with
If I go doing the boss because if anything goes wrong, I mean, I've I've sat on the couch with him for cast so many times where he has this like full cent flame, it would be will be wonderful to see you want to do to me, but I did I did I when you when you signed up to go back to raiding I was like you are absolutely
Like you are gonna cop it and you pulled the pin before we ever even got there. Yeah, it was very sad
That's very sad. I
Mean credit for you for figuring if you wanted to go back into the water, though
Then you got in and you were like no
I'll do no for me. Yeah, not not where I want to be
Too many people have pissed at this pool. I'm getting out
I even bangers, I reckon, you know, bangers, sitting on this side of the desk, not on my
side of the desk because it's a long way away, but sitting on your side of the desk, does
it make you miss it?
Or just watching and commentating all these splits so you're just like, thank god I am
not in this anymore, just due to what it has become.
Because it was pretty, like I remember talking to you before on Midra-Syl, I was talking
about it before you had the most characters prepped out of everyone and you didn't even
get to play. Um, because you just didn't loot well. Like, that sucks. That really sucks.
That's another thing we didn't even talk about when we were chatting around all the other
crap that goes into the race world first. You could prep all these characters and then
your character's either not viable for the strat, not in the comp. You didn't get gear
And then you just have to cheer for everyone while it goes on, seeing it happen to bangers, seeing it happen to quep, seeing it happen to jimmy a few times as well, like, ugh, unrelenting like, hurt of the race to world first.
I think just from an outside perspective and I don't know exactly how it feels from for
bangers but bangers is probably the person I've seen that obviously he has always had
like he has been very adamant that he has a business and he's like taking care of that
Yeah, but yeah instantly he quit while he was he's out from he he was he was gone
Like a lot of people they're like they stick around a little bit. You know have put in half without
Yeah, I mean
And that was the other hard thing for bangers too because I remember that a mid-resteel race like because
You know the longer they go on the more time he was having to take away from his business and that was when I was like
Wow, it's like it really is a different world when you get to come here and you get to see it
And all the like it definitely has a shelf life
Thing I want to do it at this level. I get definitely has a shelf life
I'm done for the
35 minutes in you kind of that become, you know
Streamers and stuff that want to go down that path and make that a living
They can extend that shelf life a little bit longer
absolutely which I can read I it's rare yeah but that's also again why like if
like you are very you know give the roster players like give their streams
of attention be nice yeah there's like over to them support them if you want
them it will absolutely likely than not extend their shelf life here in the
race and that's what we need that's what we need we need extended shelf life
massively, massively in this, especially when new players like it's often one of
those things that's talked about where people generally say wow doesn't do a
great job at bringing new players in but it does a decent job at getting old
players to return but I don't know if there's too many old players that are
coming back being like you know what I'm gonna go be race wheel first. I'm gonna
try my hand at this, you know?
Yeah, I wonder how many is like, hmm, maybe I would be into and then they look at this
and they're like, nah, nah, nah, even in the hypothetical world that they would be good enough.
So I think a lot of people are still saying, nah, I'm good.
Oh yeah, I think everybody that, you know, has thought that I remember when I was doing keys,
you know like a top leaderboard kind of level I was like if I had the time if I
didn't have like wife and kids in a full-time job I could I could be a
world-first raider easy they're probably not like just I just never
translates that way but you always like you always think a lot of people though
right yeah I know what you mean I know yeah and I don't know maybe I could I'm
a tank maybe I could I can press taunt and I can move so like maybe I could but
Yeah, who knows we'll never know shake and we will never ever ever know
All right into our little
37 minutes in
We're into our little intermission now. I don't know if we call this the intermission with the light row
But I'm for is it we calling it a phase or we calling it into mission. It's two phase. It's two phase
No, is it true phase? No, it's not true phase. It's just like a little this
manifestation of midnight. Are we calling this like everything where the bosses
are calling an intermission? You're calling it intermission. All right, not phase two.
It's intermission. Okay. Well, we're through there 56%. And I mean, we have one dead radio
is dead at the moment, and we don't hear to have a battle res that I can see on this screen.
Am I blind? Is he dead?
No, Radio is not dead.
Did he get resed? Or was he out of...
Nah, he was dead. I'm positive he was dead.
He was dead, but he is back.
Positive he was dead.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he was.
And we got...
Have we always ran triple tank on this?
Uh...
Don't...
Because he's blood.
Yeah, I see that.
Alright, let me scout.
So we got double blood, which is understandable
Because we thought that what DK would have been really good here on the grips and except the first one
So we've tripled it. Yeah, did everybody else do that because I did not notice that
Let me check look the competition
Yeah, did you all notice that chat?
Protect it. All right. Yeah, so so echoed it to with only two tanks and then they get a tank
every kill after that. Yep. And I'm assuming then Liquid is in the same
ballpark. Let me check. We're fast. Well there you go. I did wonder, I was a bit
sad that Blood DK's like, well DK's raid debuff wasn't sort of more valuable
throughout this raid and I did really think Dragons is where it would have
come into its own. But there you go. We are running double Blood DK. We're just
running three tanks so we can have the grip. So there you go. I think it was one
run for liquid this week where they two tanked it,
otherwise they triple tank every single time.
There you go.
And there's that gloom,
that big orb getting shot out at the current tank direction.
So you just need a group to go and soak them
before it hits the wall.
And then you can see these,
where they hit the wall,
he's glowing purple patches on the ground
is from where that gloom hits the wall.
So obviously just placing them.
So we've got as much space as possible
and we don't run out of it.
but absolutely ramping through these bosses at the moment 24% heading into
another shaken known intermission here damn we are absolutely trucking through
these 40 minutes in nearly 10 minutes per boss at the moment we're well on par
for the 60 minute dream if you do it in 60 minutes I mean you can get a lot of
amount before oh how yeah let's look how many liquid actually did so liquid did
not involve paladins into their splits oh they did do five okay but they did do
one two three four five six seven run oh they did seven but no paladins okay
paladins maybe today for them then yeah yeah it could be like that's the they
are drawing the line somewhere where it's like do we think it will be more
effort because yeah really just want to get to like fast and easy eye level first
right so that they like know what they need yeah sort of thing they obviously
have the option to always go back and do more. They do. It will be interesting to see how it all
plays out. Last gloom stat going off there to go into the back wall. You can see that growing
just underneath the shade's frame there. We're going to deal with these adds. We've got double blood
decays. We've got gore fiends back, which of course is nice, which also silences on the mass
script do enjoy them baking that into there 2% 1% and that's that's four
bosses in 42 minutes so let's see and we bounce it out yeah there's no way
they do paladins they bounce it out what do we want Valgo's final step
Trinket, oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, that's like that's like a best cast a trinket. Yeah, we got this cast a trinket
Happy days. Happy days
But this is not indicative that if they go to paladins not because they usually go up here kill this one and I
We use a stamp I
Don't think we're gone paladins and I'm not saying because
Absolutely method in the past have not just copied liquid
but but I I think I think in this in this case you're better off running forward
yeah yeah we get out now when we do another one but 42 minutes before is
good if we can just continue to rinse that maybe we'd be done with like the
four like four of six mythic splits before dinner if we do that yeah but you
You have to count the time until they gather the new group and they're in the next group.
They need to go faster shaking.
I mean what are we 43 minutes now?
If you can't get back in the raid in 17 minutes you are doing something wrong.
Yeah, I'm not saying that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm just saying we have to calculate that as well right?
Because otherwise you get into this one where you're like oh 42 minutes we can bang these
out this this this.
We will see.
We'll see how long they say, we'll see how long before they start the next pull.
But this could be big chat.
could be in for an absolute banger, banger of a night, if that's the case. Then we could
get some, if they could get all, let's say we run seven, which I don't think they're
going to run seven. They might. But let's say they don't. Let's say regardless, if they
can get done before Dindin's, then I think we do normal ballerin and midnight splits,
And then Heroic splits.
And then that would probably be the day I think.
I think Midnight Falls will take...
I think that will take a little bit on Heroic.
Like not a lot.
But I feel like, I mean really lucky that Liquid's kind of done all the learning for
them.
And they played it a little bit with bugs at the start.
Yeah.
Yeah, like we were talking about earlier on those like the bay blades were double hitting and all that kind of stuff.
So like
And they've got a big advantage from that, but I still think you a little bit of time to get comfortable in that fight
But one take one sort of take a whole lot of time
Where have we got how many pulls did liquid take for it, I didn't actually see
I mean I don't think it's like the same one but I think it will be like under five
holes for sure. It was 11 for Liquid so I mean and then just the time that goes
into that where you're talking about things and that Yadi Yada it would
probably be like five or six I think for us yeah but we are still not creating a
new group dark mac you're gonna scream at them or why are they still in the
raid are they like yeah I I don't know bro what is being cooked up right now
what is being cooked up by by the analysts the ride thing they should be
listening to me and my idea if you want to hear what they're saying you could go
to the radio streams and show they have comments they sure do they sure would
couple of people are outside inside yeah we've got to do just knowing like new
method note that's gone up this is the deep shibizen deep shibizen
let me scout let me scout yeah check it check it
266.2 okay still still down there
Well we're loading up for another split by the looks of this, 46 minutes, come on, we've
got to get, if we can get, if we can get a first pull in under an hour, yeah, on the
money.
I do wonder is it, what is taking so long at the moment though, I'm just opening up a
bunch of radius chains to see what's going on.
Now still in...
I wonder if there's a bit of loot talk going on?
Yeah, I mean probably, right?
Cause they don't give out the loot until the end of the run I know.
And since Deep Shades also has that character he knows he's not getting loot, he's just getting it.
Yeah, that's what I'm assuming is being cooked up right now.
deep shapes good character is deep sesem sesem
is that this one? no it's not it's s-e-s-e-c-h-s-e-h-n sesem sesem
Yeah, I'm not sure I
Think I might
Would move there for the bakeries though
I know you would
The real reason I won a live event
Apple
Apple Apple for passion. I think I was
And just anything over in those German bakeries was just absolutely game on
Absolutely amazing.
They do like their bakeries.
I mean they were very good at it.
Sweden bakeries are not the same.
It's uh, well I don't know, I haven't been to a bakery in Sweden so I can't come out.
Well I'm out.
I can tell.
Well you are.
It's not the same.
I could have lived in Germany.
I like Germany.
You know what it is about it?
like it okay you got like 700 bins that was pretty cool every house has like
seven bins kind of crazy a lot of bins a lot of weeds do a lot of the sorting of
your trash I mean for ages we had two bins we're up to we're up to four bins
now it's growing yeah after four wins now after four wins so we're catching up
when you start separating the hard plastics from the soft plastics then
you know the pins are growing you know we kind of have hit that but it goes in a
bag that goes on top of the bin there's not a separate bin for it yet so we're
evolving we're only a young country we're only young we're only young so what do you
have them you have the food we got general waste recycling green so like
lawn clippings that kind of stuff and then glass whoa wait wait wait I feel
like you skip it okay all right yeah that's what we got we have food waste
right yep then paper like oh all right board yeah or something like that but
you can burn, and then you have general waste, glass, plastics, and then if you go super
hardcore it's hard and soft plastics, then metal.
But it's not all that you have like a specific metal for yourself, we do outside with like
You know, you have your, uh...
What, what, when you have food in like a metal box, what is that called?
The ducal.
And it's like a can of beans.
Oh, it's can opener.
Yeah, but the can itself, like we have a separate...
Oh, tin.
Tin. No, that just goes in our recycling bin.
Okay.
It just goes in our recycling bin.
There you go. Well, there you go. Bin culture.
I mean, I was very interested when I was in Germany to see all the bins, so...
Whoa, Kelly, I'm not a bogan. That is not the word you throw around. No. No.
Oh, I just have noticed, by the way, because I didn't really get to talk about this. I actually feel a little about it.
it. I just saw the brewmaster that was in worse teeth. I did a lot of speculating before
the race and I made a whole bunch of notes as I always do. I did a lot of homework knowing
the fact that I would never get to cast. And I thought we would have seen a brewmaster
in raid composition. I was really like, Mistweaver's gonna be really good because it can cycle
between like that, that pad style and that hard focused healing, Windwalker was actually
doing alright and Brewmaster is just absolutely busted at the moment, like just because of
how, I don't know if they re-broke Stagger or what's happened but you just don't take
much damage anymore, it is absolutely insane. So I was like, we're gonna see Brewmaster
Warrior, didn't think we would see a Blood DK like as a feature tank, kind of thought
we would see them come in. Guardian was absolutely busted, obviously, and then it had two passes
of tuning, but it was still really solid. So I was like, are we gonna see Guardian and
Brewmaster? And then I don't think anyone's really elected to go the Brewmaster route.
I mean, Mistweaver's a great spot to stick your month buff. But yeah, Brewmaster's busted
at the moment.
Yeah.
Very surprising.
Mistweaver is good, obviously it's very good, but then also the Prot warrior is very strong.
Prot warrior is crazy.
You need Druid buff, so Guardian is good as well.
Yeah, it is actually true too because when you put warrior buff.
Yeah, and then sometimes you also need the DK grips from the tank.
So it's kind of like for brewmaster to be an option right now, it has to beat all of
those scenarios where you would not see your druid buff from something else and
Mistweaver does not hit the mark and Warriors not needed and good yeah it's
like yeah I think that yeah I mean yeah I think maybe I probably didn't equate
for just had garbage arms and fury I knew arms was gonna be rubbish but I
probably didn't account for probably how fury just wasn't very good either so I
think that obviously the best spot was sticking it on the on the warrior for the
prop there and then I guess it depended if you wanted to roll the dice on
resto or not but I think I don't know we've seen some someone's run on a
rest oh aren't they yeah no that girl run on a rest or dude yeah it's yeah I
I mean, this is where I like
At least sometimes I
Yeah, but that's I I
Kind of feel like we've had probably
Less composition variation in this race than than the previous ones and that's one of the things I generally really like
About you know when I sort of talk about the big three is seen when they go different routes for things
We've seen it like in big wild swings sometimes like Volta the Incarnate's was a massive one where we rolled up to town with a blood decay and a
Prott warrior
And everyone was kind of like what the hell is going on here
So I think it was I think from memory that was Prott warrior back then
Might have been brewmaster can't remember but like we were ahead
We were ahead of the game with brood keeper with a blood decay and then the prop paladin one from Asgath
probably didn't work out the way we thought but at least we had something different so but this
time I feel like there's very little different sort of swings in compositions
for sure but Dorkmic we're we're getting to that point it's getting closer that hour and we are
I'm always just scalping another group and the deep shades group is like about half full
still waiting for people to join. So...
Worst just went flying off the edge of Skyreach. Fun fact, in Skyreach, you used to be able to...
I can't remember how you got up, but you could get up on the wall for challenge modes,
and then you could just drop over the other side and skip all this.
It was... it was bang out. I can't actually remember how you did it back in challenge modes,
but we used to do it, and you think you needed a hunter to do it, actually.
And we used to always have issues because our hunter would think it was exploiting and we were like it's not exploiting bro
Like it's it's not exploiting. It's all good. That's all good
Worst tanking in these keys as well not the worst tanking but worst is tanking in these keys as well
but DK definitely just not in the same position as
Brahmastor like not even
closely this tier playing
Sang as well not not electing to play deathbringer interesting choice big pool to start with two and there's Perg. There's Perg
Go worst
He's dressed too well to die. He really is
He's dead. It's not lucky
Nah, lucky. That's just getting cleared now. So I
Guess we just hit that under the hour mark
kind of
Okay, I mean, they still got four minutes to 60 minutes. This is pretty good. Did you see the April Fools from blizz as well?
They put up a blue pro like I miss
Blizzard April Fools used to be like
Like peak like back in the day when the wow forums was everything and like I still have and this is where I get caught up a
Lot of the time in World of Warcraft in like, you know
your rose colored glasses and it can be, it can be from whenever you started in the
game. Like everyone's going to have different periods of that but because I'm old, mine
was vanilla. Like that's just how it worked out being an old man. But we used to like
on Tuesday nights at generally be like 1am, the servers would go down and then we would
all just sit in a room on the wow forums for like three or four hours waiting for the
service to come back up because we're just absolute degenerate losers. And like Blizzard used to put
like there was a lot more interaction on the WoW forums back then but they used to put their
April Fools posts and stuff up there on there and they had some absolute bangers but they put
one up today for April Fools and it was a developer update and apology to our community. We have
heard you loud and clear we were wrong. Our recent decision to restrict UI customization and remove
Weak Horrors was a mistake that overlooked how vital these tools are to your journey in Azeroth.
We pride ourselves on the complexity of our encounters, but we failed to recognise that
your ability to master them often relies on the very tools we took away.
That was a big post about the return of Weak Horrors, which is hilarious,
but I also don't know if it's a bit of a kick in the dick to the Weak Horrors crew.
I don't know how that sits, it's funny.
Thank you Blizzard for bringing something that actually works.
For too long it's been like, oh we're launching a new patch and it's just like complete nonsense
and no one even takes it serious for a bit.
This has just had enough kick of it, just like they just walked past and just kicked the
recoil to the nuts and they just kept on walking.
Absolutely, that's perfect.
It's such a face in the mud.
I just, yeah, I thought it was very, very good.
But yeah, I loved that period of time where there used to be, the WoW forums was kind of,
this is pre-elitist, Jeff.
So everything functioned around those forums.
Yeah, and it was I was such a good time. It was such a good time to be in this game. It was absolutely wild
But uh, yeah, it was a good post from the from the blue steps
Good post when it hits home just a little bit. That's when it's good. That's when you know, it's good
When you know, it's good. Oh
It's nearly the end of our shift or actually is the end of our shift shaking
it is sort of sort of it is the end of our shift but I think there's some
things going on in the background which means it's possibly not the end of our
shift so that's cool we're just we're just chilling we're just chilling we are
we have past the 60 minute mark though and we have not pulled yeah but I think
they kind of entered around the hour mark like let's see exactly when they fall
yeah I mean this is still good this is still better than the 90 minutes that
you'd put out into the universe, but that's still...
Yeah, so they kind of like pulled at 1208, they pulled this boss, so we're in good money, we're in good money here, this is good, I like this.
But my 1 hour and a half, I think we would be a lot closer to 8-way dependence.
Oh, absolutely. Like, and that's if Paladins is even a one-shot. I know, I know it's been nerfed, but like,
you muck up a taunt swap on that boss.
Just, just anything like that and you're screwed. So, easy sort of like, large margin for error on, on small things in that,
which, which can cost time, which is why the smart move is not doing Paladins right now.
So very very happy to see us just getting flick for over get back last few summons coming out now and
Away, we're gonna go split number two
It's a little funny though that the like dispersing of Luth and gathering the group is almost as long as killing the boss
I know you remember
Uh, um, it actually might have been aberrous when, when Cana man's came in and said there
was his job was going through like 1200 pieces of loot on a spreadsheet and who to assign
it to and stuff like that.
Like it is just, it is chaos behind the scene chat at a race to world first and it is just
I don't know. As I said, it's something different when you get to experience it and they've done.
I mean, I feel like you get better access now more than ever.
You get to listen to comms.
You've got players live on scene where you get to see them and things like that.
And the listening in part's amazing, but it would be and they would never.
I mean, maybe they do it, maybe eventually they do it, but it would be really cool to have
like the analyst stuff out of the open as well in regards to what they're doing, what process they're going through,
development of week horrors, development of boss strategies, loot assignments and all this kind of stuff,
and obviously that like, your competitors are going to watch the stream, like it cuts any competitive advantage you have,
That that would be like the full unveiling of the world first sort of you know
Seen in that regards and a full behind the scenes and that would be wild to see like I think that's
That'd be a huge step to take and it would be I think it would be viewership capitalization
But who knows who knows if it ever happens the thing is though like I am definitely on on your side here
because I think there's two types of content right now that is missing and
And the number one for me is and I said this to Sean Carter's Carter's girls guy
I said in Dota there's a cast that called Kessu
So yeah, look at that guy
and
he started this like podcast where every episode is a
a pro player slash old legend of the game. And he brings them on and he goes through
their entire career basically and they start rambling on about short stories about that
guy and that team and how they see it up over there and that tea I didn't go great.
In WoW that would be amazing because these Race to World First players they have so many
cool stories of that boss and this week or did this that time and we did gearing that
way so many years ago or I used to play with that guy in that guild but then we got together
in that guild over there and I feel like that's something that is missing.
I'm usually on the cast here. I feel like I'm talking about stories and I feel like I have
so many stories to tell and I was there for one tier. We have people here that played for
10 15 years you know so imagine the amount of stories and so just to have a
content creator and I think it would be perfect if it was a caster maybe someone
like dark mech you know that would be cool and then you just do a like long
form podcast ish where you just take on you know your friends with fragments
take on fragments and then you just talk to him and you get him talking about
like, you know how you have to get these players to talk about the story.
Oh, you do? Yeah.
Like, that guy in that rate, oh, he was so bad.
And you just talk about the story when he just went off or something.
I think, I think I should approach Sco and be like, look, I got an idea for the method
channel.
Yeah.
You fly me to each radar location.
And I'll just go and do interviews around the world with the Raiders one at a time.
I mean, I have to talk to my wife after saying goodbye to my children for a while,
but I'm willing to travel the world to make YouTube content interviewing the Raiders for the chat.
I'm willing. I'm willing.
I know you're making a meme out of it, but obviously it would be nice to-
No I'm not making a meme, I'm getting so serious, I'm willing!
I think it's missed, it's content that is missing, I think it would hit...
No, my wife's in the chat, my wife's in the chat, she's aware.
She's aware.
She's aware.
I've propped aggro, I've propped aggro, I bought, I bought, I bought!
Yo Si, what's up?
Yeah, I mean, we could do it, we could do it as a duo.
See, I'm not respected enough in the community, and I'm not a content creator.
I could honestly not do it.
I mean, I've fallen off, I'm has been.
I've, I'm like, it doesn't matter.
You're charismatic, you're a good boy, and uh, you know, you would start, like maybe it would be easier for you, you know, since you're a message content creator.
I hope you're still there.
And I am I don't know how but I am yeah, so then you would do like
Skull
Fragments that's your episode one and I interviewed I interviewed scope for the race to world first video
I did that was that was a while ago. That was actually really cool
Did that at the did that at the leak camp and spoke all about the the method rebuild and the challenges
And the fact that he sold his car
To pay for the live event and all that kind of stuff
That was huge. It was absolutely huge. If you haven't seen that, go watch it. Bookmark
was on that too, part of our production. He was on there as well. He's had grand plans
for the Race to the World first too. And Dupes was on there as well, who's the product brand
manager for Method as well. It took me almost a year to release it. Do you want to know
the best part about what I haven't released yet is my BlizzCon vlog from a little bit
ago. So I went to BlizzCon in, what was it? Like, was it 2024 or was it 2023? I don't
know, I went to the last BlizzCon and I haven't...
2024, I think.
2024. And I got a whole, but I mean, I put things up as I was there, but I made like
a whole thing I was gonna do a vlog for and I just never got around to making it
it's like there's a giant box behind me I don't know if you can see which you see
this giant box on the ground that's the Frostmourne base and I've got Frostmourne
behind it and they've been in a box for like four years and I'll just I'll get
around to opening it one day one day huh yeah other content I think that would be
easier to do would just be that one of the raiders like just start not leaking some stuff
oh dude it's it's just start leaking a little bit like it's not that important for the competition
but no i agree and every and everybody's doing it and this is one thing that i was like oh i never
knew this so when they were doing i can't remember what raid it was i don't know if it was a midger
still or if it was Amorous, I don't know. But anyway, one of the raids and I was, it was before,
like it was the two days before the race kicked off, whatever. And everyone was in a garrison,
like on a target dummy, testing things. But all they were looking for is spells that have broken
interactions with each other and targets and things like that. And I was like, never, ever,
ever ever did I think that this is what race to world first guilds would be doing like and and
how they find out bugged interactions with abilities and you know just blew my mind but
there's so much of that stuff that goes on behind the scenes that no one knows about
that you're right you could absolutely exploit for views like a hundred percent you could
massively if you are a raider in the race world first and this goes to any of the top three guilds obviously
I hope it's a method there that listens to it, but if you are one of these people and
You want to make content creator like your thing
Do that like you guys are talking to Blizzard all the time with things you find and you ask Blizzard
Are we allowed to use this because we found this weird interaction and they say no
Well, now it's not a competitive advantage either way if you like it. Just talk about that
Just like yeah talk about like we found this insane thing where you know
They were gonna fix week or us and then we started sending officer notes with add-ons and you know stuff like this
I just even I think even a really cool video and I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out
At the end of it and if it if it's not already in the works it should be but even like
Like, one of the guilds should put out a video at the end of their approach to the add-on
apocalypse and how they went about, like how they were going to manage it.
So they knew that dynamic assigning would be not a thing anymore, but you know, what
could we still do from weak auras by making a fork of it, you know, with the dispel signals
or don't soaks, all that kind of stuff, which, you know, everyone's kind of like, I thought
week or as we're gone but I'm looking at week or as right now like even talking about your approach
to doing that did you you know did you bring on people from the week or as team
onto your raid roster to be able to do that like I think the you know the general wow public would
find that stuff really fascinating and I'm not talking about like it's an amazing video like
absolutely no flame in saying this but I'm not talking about making like a return of the king
run time video about the race to world first it's got to be concise enough where the general
public can digest it but i think there would be like there would be a lot of appeal in that
i mean i think even seeing talking about it on stream would be like i don't know if i'm alone
in this but like kind of what uh you know it's one of our rivals now but he used to play uh the
raid lead for messa, right, scribe. And after every tier, he has his, he flames the entire
guild. Like he just turns on the stream and he just reviews the raid and he was like,
oh, this guy, he played well this tier and all that guy played, okay, this tier, you know,
it gets, it gets viewership. And you just do that, but you talk about other stuff,
like what you found out with mechanics on ptr testing how did you try and break
a boss like any anything I think I think that's a challenge I suppose and this
is again no flame no flame I think this is where method has not not it's not a
It's not a challenge, but it's certainly a different set up.
So Liquid has Max, who has an enormous audience, is very personable when he is raid leading.
He's very watchable, very knowledgeable, scribe.
As you said, he used to raid lead here.
He's gone on for a long time.
Already got a solid base of doing that.
Raid leads on stream.
And then method is in a very different boat where you've got sco as a face of method for
all announcements and things like that.
And then you've got the through raid leads, but is, you know, this is the stick essentially
like is a constant like professional and his interest isn't in in media bites and what draws
attention to that way.
He very much really wants this deal to succeed and really wants to do a good job.
and that's where he's focused live.
So I couldn't ever see you being able to get Biff
to make a video being like,
this is how I approach things.
This is what I do.
You know, this is how I make it work.
And that, I guess that makes a wall to trying to do
like what we're talking about in that regard
from a raid leading perspective.
Yeah, but it, for most of the things
it doesn't have to be the raid leader, right?
No, it doesn't, but I think it always has,
Like the reason that Max gets so many viewers is because people like hearing the raid leader's calls most
I mean that's that might just be flesh and my own opinion on to everyone here
But that's why I like going and watching Max's chat because I like hearing Max's calls
What the raid leader's doing and things like that like I think that's a really
Interesting part of of the the sort of veil that got pulled back on race to world first
coverage was was the comms in that regard so I think he's also the one person in
liquid that takes talking to the audience seriously yeah I mean he's just a
very like on stream he's a very like personable like guy like that he relates
to chat very, very easily. So, yeah, but it's, I think there's a lot of avenues,
skills could go down to, to maximize that, but it's obviously not the main focus of what
they're doing either. Like they want to win the race. That's the, that's the main focus, but
I think it would be interesting to see what it does in terms of continuing to push the orgs
into the general player base kind of thing. I think it would be a good idea.
You understand. You get what I'm saying.
I'm just a little bit sad we're missing out on great content.
Yeah, we are. But I mean maybe after this they can make it happen, you never know.
Maybe if the chat keeps going, maybe when scroll streams, if the chat just starts spamming in for it,
you just never know what happens. But I can tell you what does happen, the end of my shift.
It's been an absolute pleasure hanging out with you chat been amazing hanging out with
you but I'm being replaced by someone much better looking and has just been on a plastering
adventure just spoke about putting up some drywall plastering over it just handy handy
So with that I'ma leave you in this voracious pool to shake and embrace. I'll talk to you all later
Bye chat
What's up
Hello, right. He's so kind. I love that like he's so great
What a pleasure you guys have had this morning having that make all your shit
finally
Having good one of my favorite castors. I have to admit
Yeah, he is. Especially because he covered for me. Yeah, I had some PC issues, annoyingly.
Like when things decide not to work, everything decides not to work. I don't even know why.
I turned my PC on and it was like, yeah, I'm just not going to connect to the internet.
Just don't want to. So we started it and it's like, no, just don't want to.
started again now and then third time lucky here we are here we are yeah
fill me in chicken what's been going on we in yeah we didn't get called an ass yet
no we've done heroic voids fire mm-hmm go go mystic shuros
seven of them and now we're in mystic voids fire and this is number two run
how many mythic voids fire runs in a row I don't know but I would assume between
I don't know.
Okay.
That's cool.
And if we timed it, it's about one hour, killing all the bosses up to dragons, and giving
up the loot, and getting a new group into the next round, about an hour.
So if they do them all back to back to back to back, and we're assuming let's say an
even number of six we should be done at about 6pm with voids fires but then we
have not even touched March on Qaldanas normal or heroic so there's
definitely some heroic spades to be done in that one too yeah they also have to
get used to actually playing the Qaldanasas bosses before they step
in the middle interesting okay okay and we also saw echo went in with a low
eye level group on mythic Pellarane and just like poke that the boss didn't
really go for it I think it says on the thing they have four attempts but it was
like basically they just went in they tried a little bit with a group that
was not optimized, not geared up, yeah and they just got through like one phase
one with like a lot of people dead towards the end and they said oh let's go
back into split. Okay cool all right so we're kind of like doing the right thing
then. Yeah, of course. Yeah I don't even know if like because liquid also did
splits the entire first day yeah I'm not too certain they're even fully done
yet they're either so I mean some dates at some time tomorrow I think we're
stepping in on progression which isn't great and we're dying
Because we did not break the wall. This is the first wipe in a mythic split we've seen in Void Spire this week.
Probably not last.
Okay, so progression tomorrow-ish then. Alright, that's fine.
We kind of do always spend the first day of reset progressing through Mythic anyway.
If this was a regular raid that was like 9-8 bosses in a single raid.
We usually spend like the first day reclearing up to progression area anyway, so kind of in the normal spot.
It's an extra step, but yeah.
Yeah, just a few extra steps, just a few 5, 6 or 7 extra steps.
I said to Darkmech, I think we're in day 7 out of 8 in Splits, right, like one day of progression, seven days of Splits.
I wonder, yeah, I know that's kind of like not a fantastic thing for everybody to watch, but I do wonder like how the raiders feel about it.
I can't imagine this is going to be the most, it's going to go down as like their favorite
raid of all time.
Probably not.
But even for them, like as a race from a viewing perspective, if the last boss is really entertaining
to watch, it can still go down as like a good viewing experience.
Yeah.
For the players, I think it's tainted, you know, almost no matter what.
Yeah, because they they like you said if they only have like one day of pro progression and
To them the race is like 95 percent prepped with 5 percent progression
And you're even taken away that 5 percent reduced it to like
One percent progression that's gonna feel not great
That's not gonna feel great
Someone asked if this is splits or re clear me and dark make we decided to call this
Mystic Split Reclear. It's different from the Heroic splits, but we're not just
re-clearing, we're definitely splitting Mystic as well, so something like it.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is a fun raid, it is cool, the bosses are really cool. I just think that
the cadence of the content has been... yeah, a little bit interesting. At least
from I mean it's not been not too bad in like the casual corner we we cleared normal in one day
or maybe it was two um and now we are half of through clearing heroic so like we're kind of
where we normally are on a second reset or third reset but it's interesting now tomorrow night that
we'll be going to clouded ass and doing I believe we'll be going into called on us anyway and doing
normal for that kind of finishing our normal raid and ticking that off I don't
know it's really weird I don't really know if I'm like a big fan of the three
raid split if they all came out the same time I'd feel like more lenient towards
it but with it being the first two first and then the last one like two weeks
later I mean I know that there was a thing floating around saying that you
more people are gonna say subscribe because the content is being prolonged but it's week three
i'm still here i'd still be subscribed i'd like yeah regardless i'm still gonna be playing the game
for at least a couple of months before i be want something else it's kind of how it usually goes
but i don't know it'll be interesting to see if more people stick around
with the braid being split like it is what about you shaggy are you a fan of the three-inch split
And the cadence, the content?
I think it's just hard to hit the mark on balancing.
I would just not do it.
And I think this tier is proof where Woodspire was too easy.
I mean Blizzard realized that.
And now they're kind of like panic buffing Valorant.
Hopefully like kind of try and make it up an ultimate boss.
Which I don't still not think will be enough.
And then obviously all the difficulty of this entire tier will be put on
Midnight Falls, so yeah
And I just think it's hard for them to balance like I am not saying this is something that should be like oh just do it
It's very hard to balance when it
When it's so much you can do to gear optimized before you even step into into the right
Yeah, definitely
They kind of made a bigger issue for themselves by doing the split, I think they could have,
if it all happened at one point in one raid, they probably could have been able to
balance things a little better, because they can kind of predict the amount of splits that players
are going to do. But because this is the first time that we've seen three raids, and the number
of splits that they've done is way more than what they could have been before. So the amount of gear
they've got a wave order before so yeah they kind of made it a little bit more difficult for them
for themselves and we would not be in this position by the way Aliria didn't die week one
which also is like something you have to think about yeah definitely because if if Aliria did
not die week one you would start doing like i wouldn't call it i mean we can say call it
of mysix splits but basically what you would do with them is you would do more
runs that also kill dragons and then for this week you would pull it all
together to go into voidsfire mysix to kill alleria on week two right that
would be the plan at that point so you would then not see us to so many mysix
splits in boys fire yeah I think last week it's around 8 to 11 based on which
skill you're looking at and then this week they're probably doing you know like I
said 5 between 5 to 8 depending on which skill you're looking at so we're at like
13 weeks of loot on these characters at the end of like one day step into the
new right the merchant called in us that's a lot that is a lot yeah it do be
what it do be though yeah um you mind me like with the with the three rain
split right I know that we're always looking at it from like a raceable test
perspective and like gear acquisition being salaried and stuff but I was
listening to a developer interview he was a day before yesterday of Holly and
And Holly was explaining the story arc of the world within midnight and last Titan and how Chris basically was like right, leave it to me, I'll go away.
He created the story, he then pitched it to the team and the team loved it and then he was like well the only caveat is that I can't fit this into one expansion.
So they're like okay go away and see if you can fit it into two so he had to think about it and he was like I can't do it in two either.
the story cannot be told in just two expansions. So that's why we end up having this triple saga,
because the story that wants to be told is so large. And I feel like that's maybe what they
were trying to do with this three-raid split. They wanted the emphasis on Churros, and the story
told through there which is you have this like big uh like guard dog almost that's been twisted
and contorted by the void and they're like they're a guard right so you go in and you kill it and then
you get access to the dreamer and then you enter the void and you go through the voids via and then
the last boss is Belira you have to say Belira from Azalata and once we do that great brilliant
Then we head into Cweldon Arse and the events of what happens from Crown of the Cosmos,
Xylethath taking Alleyra's power and then using that to infect the Sunmile with the Boid,
first becoming the Boiwile, ends up with the two last bosses and we have to kill Blu-ra,
and that falls. So from a story perspective, the Raid Split makes a lot of sense and it's a clever
way of showing it almost like, do you remember Saphoka where we said that Anduin should have been
like the last boss and then we should have had a fourth right yeah yeah kind of
like that so that's the sentiment of the community beckoned and I feel like the
devs might have listened to that and that is like the three-rate split that
we've got now is kind of a result of it that that's my theory yeah just that
they were coming at it from like a story perspective but I'm not sure how well
that translates from a from a like playing it because then on the flip side we've got
the raceable first mythic players doing endless amounts of mythic splits, getting gear that
they should be getting in 13 weeks time, don't be sad, and just a whole host of other difficulties.
So it's a cool concept, I feel like they need a little bit of tweaking.
yeah I mean like that that's also another thing because obviously we're
here on the broadcast casting the rays but these changes affect a lot of
guilds there are a lot of guilds that are trying to like mis-explicit even you
know yeah Marius or Churros right like a lot and it affects a lot of people so
So, yeah, I will have to see from a standpoint of the lore, I'm sure it makes complete sense.
Not sure if this is a route I think the game should go every patch at least.
But every now and then, you know, you can throw in a curveball.
I don't mind too much.
Yeah, I think what Tyra is saying in chat is I agree with that, that Chim should have
been way harder.
I think Chim should have been way harder in all the difficulties, like not just, not
just anything.
Shame was a piece of cake, the normal.
And so I have like the first three, four bosses in Void Spire as well.
It's been, I don't know, like obviously the more that we play the game, the more experience
we get and thus like the more likely we get better at the game and so the difficulty is
likely to decrease anyway for us but I don't know, like I feel like as we've gone on raids
have gotten like a little bit easier like quite a bit easier I don't know that's just me I mean
it's like I think it goes both ways and it goes back to what the conversation we had yesterday
I feel like a little bit where it's much more accepted and almost wanted that they tune it for
the race then instantly nerf it and then at some point again they will nerf it again and so on and
so on so it's like at the very top end I think some of the bosses and we have seen this in the
obviously this tier is not one of them but we've seen it in the past where we're fighting like
the hardest bosses ever created and then they get nerfed and they're no longer
that you know yeah probably a little bit mix of like the earlier bosses might be
a little bit easier in these new raids I mean remove sticks you know I mean but
like yeah it's it goes back and forth I guess I don't have a specific specific
stand on whether rating is easier or harder but it's definitely different I
Maybe I, yeah, I think it's definitely got any easier.
I remember struggling to clear normal with my raid for, I mean, we definitely didn't.
The first time that we cleared normal in one week before reset was Baldin Carnix, I believe.
Yeah, because I was progging Sakureth from Leap Camp and the raiders were, I think it
heroic yeah it was heroic week because the raiders were off at around 10 o'clock and that's when we
were progging Sakharath because I remember there were an 8D of my shoulder watching me which by the
way um having raced the world first tank over your shoulder who you don't really know that well at
that point watching you play the game and doing your rotation and then making a comment as you use
the button being like that's an interesting way to use vengeful retreat I've never seen that before
it was uh yeah it was it was uh anxious to say the least um but yeah so we we must it must have
involved incarnates must have been heroic week must have been that monday two days before reset
but yeah that was the first time that we cleared normal and phyla and from then on we've just done
it every single tier without any sweat. Well when did you start? Nylotha.
So yeah we did the last raid of BF, we did all Shallowlands. Shallowlands was hard but
I don't know maybe it was because like I wasn't great and so like maybe other
people in our raid team also weren't great but I remember struggling Xymox,
Artifices I mocks
Castle Nathria because we didn't have the DPS to literally just like burn through the phases and
We struggled with like the placement of the teleporting portal and like the timing of it to go through to make sure that we were safe
And also boss movement
I mean
I mean that was the best that expansion had you know like
The raids were not bad, I think people not liking that expansion really hasn't a lot to do with the raids and more or less everything else around it.
Yeah, the raids were really good. I think Castle Laughers is probably my favorite raid ever.
Castle Laughers was very good. At least Ludgefist will always go down as a very good boss.
obviously the slg thing in the beginning when like it was like rng
yeah that was not good but um side of the mysterious was okay sludge phase was very good
cymox was pretty okay for like a mid mid uh early tier boss
pretty good yeah yeah I loved I loved doing huntsman as a tank because you
had the doggies that you had to go get so you always had one guy that was on the
on the huntsman and the other one was always on the doggies and then having
to patrol the doggies around the room you were like the dedicated dog walker
basically that was really really sick I love that and side and after this as
as well with the mirrors and like going through and being teleported on the other side was
such a cool concept to me like that was my first time actually yeah getting something
really interesting to play with like mechanically like that because now Lothar was interesting
like you had at least N'zoth at the end where we had the different like different faces
you had like the the voidy phasey and then you had like the normal phase.
I went down and killed these like I don't know if you call it abomination or stuff but yeah.
Yeah that was cool so that was like my first introduction to something I like that and then
the next one was side and after us so I had a really cool interesting stuff like my rating history
and then going from that to I don't know if I really rate the the
I think it was the Sanctum of Domination was the worst rate in that expression, I don't
think anyone disagrees with that.
Kintosad was like one of those 10 ultimate bosses that was a complete name.
Yeah.
And I didn't play...
I think Painsmith was good though.
Painsmith was great.
Painsmith, Painsmith and...
The simplest guy.
I would say, I mean Painsmith was the good boss, yeah.
Sylvanas was okay on Mystic, but it wasn't that high I guess.
but then you had like fate scribe, guardian and kt were all not good on
mythic I think even like remnant of nersoul and the the blood guy those were
pretty good on mythic I really think it was like fate scribe guardian and kt
those three were like really bad but legion for me will always like I really
like the legion race I really like the legion race I never really got to do legion
I did a little bit of Hellfire set it out on Alifar
oh no I didn't do legion well what were the legion rates?
Emerald Nightmare? Not good. Not good. But it was easy, so it was like an introduction for me into Mystic Rating.
Emerald Nightmare.
Yeah, the Saviour's at the end. Yeah, that was not good. You can skip past that one.
Okay, skipping.
But then we had Trial of Valor, with Odin, Guam, and Helia.
Those all three bosses were good.
Then we had Nighthold, which for a lot of people I think, Nighthold is one of the better raids, with very interesting good bosses.
Krosus was like a good single target boss check. You had Star Ogre that for many people would go down as like a very good boss.
Gul'dan at the top was good, Elisand was pretty good.
Gouldan's mythic phase was that Elidan and an egg?
Yeah, sort of, yeah.
Right, so that's such like a big story arc to, like, uh, yeah, that's such a big story arc.
So like, normal and heroic, did Elidan just, Elidan just like not turn up?
Like, how did they, how did they kind of wrap up the story of Legion if Elidan didn't make an appearance from normal and heroic?
Was it just a case of like the mythic you didn't know? Yeah, yeah, I think they always say that mythic is like canon
Cuz at the end of what as well
The only time you go into like the nether and actually kill orcimon
It's in mythic
So he doesn't actually die because like the thing with demons, right? It's like if you don't go in
I think it's called another but they're like demon place
If you don't kill them there, every time you kill them out in the normal world, they just go back and like recharge until they come back.
Alright.
If you go and kill them in their like home place, then you kill them for real.
We'll do that on mythic.
So the...
Twisting never.
Twisting never, yeah.
Yeah, because that's where Illidan's...
That was what confused me, because we went and killed Illidan Stormrage in the Black Temple, BC.
So then, how did he make her an appearance in Legion?
Like, that was something that I just never really understood, but we...
Well, his soul was trapped in the twisting nether, and then he came back and he was like,
we're born, whoo!
That's why he is in the egg.
So was Nighthold the final raid of Legion?
No, that was like the first big raid of Legion.
So you had Emerald Nightmare, that was like the first big raid, but it died in 18 hours,
So it will always go down as the easiest raid of all time.
People were not happy at the top end, but it is where it is.
Then you had the triple raid boss with Oldinguan and Helia.
That one was very hard, and that was actually old method rebuild which most of the players
now are echo, but that was their first world-first win back with Helia.
And then Nighthold came afterwards and that was like the first big good raid of the expansion.
And after that we also had Tomb of Sargeras, which says people meme it for Tomb of Soak
Garras, but I love that raid.
It had good bosses.
I liked Sisters of the Moon, that was a good fourth boss.
I liked the fallen avatar a lot, Maiden was completely okay, the Queen Ashara, or, it's
like she's not the Queen Ashara, but she's like some Vashir girl, she was pretty okay,
and then Kil'jaeden was a banger boss, like fallen avatar into Kil'jaeden, to me is like
the best penultimate into last boss combo, that was insane.
And then the last tier of the expansion was in Taurus where we went to Argus and we thought
Yeah
That that raid was like also very easy early on so like almost I think the first day
First like 12 hours or something
They killed every single boss except Argus and then they were on Argus for like a week
I'm trying to like remember when I did any of these raids because I played all throughout ward like I thought how far
Citadel was
Legion
If it's what then I don't remember doing any of this
I'm gonna log into my own check my achievements to see if I did actually play around for us when Legion came out
But it seems like I missed out on some really good raids. I don't know how I have such a blank.
I think, kind of the old guard, when I played back in Legion and you know, the BFAs and stuff.
You had the old guard of wow raiders and they always looked back fondly on mop.
That's always what they did, they were like, you missed out man, throwing a thunder was insane, that was so good.
Yeah, and now I feel like a lot and I might put in words might be putting words in a lot of people's mouth
But I feel like a lot of people now
That look back if you didn't play Legion a lot of people must be like why you you missed out like maybe
What came up to Legion as a BFA?
So
Do you feel like the raids in the Legion were bad and the raids in BFA? Oh, yeah, for sure
wasn't even close yeah yeah lots of like raids legion raid when did legion come out 2017 16 16
17 17 I think oh okay so I have on the 11th of June 2017 I have trial of valor that should be in
Legion at least yeah, okay, and then that's it so that's all I did. I only need to try a lot
That's the three boss rate it's probably why I don't really believe in that much
Legion was great
Like basically I remember telling a friend of mine when this is when I like started braiding a lot and
and we were all super hyped, we had gone through all of Legion, everyone's looking forward to the new expansion
and basically at the end of Legion, for the people that remember, you had full artifact power weapon
like your weapon was juiced to the guilds and then you had two legendaries
and you had like insane tear sets kind of at the end of the year.
So like your class was so many different calibers of insane.
And they go into BFA and they were like, we're removing the artifact weapon,
we are removing the legendaries, and we're removing the tear sets.
And all of these concepts will be replaced by Azerite armor.
You're like, alright, okay.
So for Azerite armor to fill the shoes of these systems that you are moving, it needs to be insane, right?
You're planning for like an insane system here, with basically tearsets being baked into the shoulders,
the legendary being baked into the chest or something, right? Right? Right, Blizzard?
and blizzardite you are wrong you're gonna have the choice of three points
where all of them are passives and the best passive is on single targets you
get a bleed and if you're lucky and it procs from two of them it stacks
Oh, what about my legenders then?
Is that something?
No.
You get another ring on this atherite armor.
If you don't take damage, you get a shield for like 0.5% of your HP.
They're like, please sir, this is not going to work out.
People are going to get mad.
They're like, nah, it's fine, trust us, it's fine.
And then people start playing Uldir.
asterisk armor like horrible implementation of asterisk armor in a little
year and then they were like but guys I see you guys have been complaining a
little bit we will change it in going into BOD you will get two out of the
rings you will get two powers and now we will also introduce like a tier set
version into the asterisk armor and so towards the end of the expansion right
You still had asteroid armor. That was kind of tear sets.
But that was it.
And when people talk about like BFA, they might remember the corruption of the last tier or something like that.
Right.
And then sure, we had some fun with the classes, but...
If I could say anything about classes in BFA, it's bland. It's just meh.
So, I came into BFA at the end when there were all the rings on the gear, and the corruption,
and you had to choose the rings carefully, because if you didn't, you had to go pay
to get it reset or something, and then you had to get certain corruptions, and then you
had all of this stuff, right?
Coming into it, I was like, what the hell is all of this?
So that was you guys' fault for complaining so much, yeah?
Kind of, yeah.
I mean, corruption was only in the last raid, right?
It was only in Nihilosa.
Yeah, yeah.
Before that corruption wasn't a thing.
Yeah.
Wow, what a conlude system.
And Uldir was so bad.
It was so bad.
Just because you felt like, I mean, it must not have been satisfying, right?
from an expansion where you had like, you could do so much and you had so much, you
did so much damage to nothing. Basically, for people that might not have played Legion
or whatever, basically most of the buttons that are interesting to press on your class,
last expansion was from like a legion legendary or like a thing on your
asterite weapon or a tear set from that expansion like it was a lot of that so
pick fire mage as an example fire mage asterite weapon spell was phoenix
flames before legion you just had fireball fire blast and fire blast that
was like you're saying so in Legion they introduced Phoenix Flames and the way
you did combustion was completely revamped from world into Legion so like
the the combustion we have had where you're spamming pyro pyro pyro pyro
pyro that is like something that is from Legion as well then Legendaries was
like when you, when the boss is under 35% you can do Scorch at 30%, you can do Scorch while moving
obviously and you do more damage it always crits so you can generate those pyroblasts.
That was a talent we've had for a long time, that came from a Legion Legendary.
Then this like you sometimes get a powered pyroblast that if you hard cast a pyroblast it
does more damage, that was a Legion Legendary and that was how it was like for a lot of these
classes and when we went into BFA all of that was removed.
All of it.
So you went back to basics.
Back to the it was so bad.
And then when you went into like further on they start giving you some of this stuff back.
You know I think one of the azerite rings was that your pyroblast is like the legendary
or the Scorch is like, you know, the Executes.
That's how they started introducing it with Azureth Rings.
But in Old Deer, you had none of that.
It was just past it.
It was bad.
That's kind of stinky.
So, Mockfire Mage, right, was...
You could have both a Hot Street, like the big one for casting a full Fireblast,
and like the fired up one to build up.
And then you sit ready with that and what you're hoping for is that they both crit and then you get a big ignite
And you press combustion. That was how it was like tada mob style. Yeah
And Legion is like you become fire for X amount of seconds and everything crits
Yeah, so so a lot a lot a lot of the classes and I'm obviously a mage main
So I'm just taking a magic sample, but this is the same thing for a lot of classes.
It was like a legendary or an artifact weapon power or something that comes from Lita.
That's so weird that they would change how a class plays, not just like rotation-wise
but also like thematically visually plays and ties it to a gear.
And then when the expansion comes and that gear becomes irrelevant, you just go back
how you live for but you've just taught the entire playbase how to like play the character
brand new play the class brand new yeah and then you're like yeah we know that was really fun but
we're taking it away now yeah like I mean people were pissed people yeah I can imagine
but like yeah towards I think it started in BOD that's when they started like
introducing Azerite armor with rings and all of a sudden one of the rings of
the Azerite armor was just like a part of a legion legendary you know and since
then like right now you know we have these intricate talent trees and in
those talent trees yeah that's just legion legend there is bro like that's
that's actually what it is like legion was insanely innovative and changing of
I'll be careful for a second sir and a lot of the remnants of that expansion is still with us today.
So I must have been mistaken then when I thought of like the legendary where we put our like
the grand resources and we put that resources into the talent tree of the weapon that was in Joan.
Yeah, but that was the asteroid weapon. So you had both the asteroid weapon that gave passives
That's what you're talking about building up the power of it, but it also had its own button
So like for every single spec it was a new button
Uh for fire mage it was phoenix flames
For arcane mage. I think it was the
Like you put a dot on the target and then you did damage into it or was it that I don't I don't even remember these
For other specs. Oh these mastery it was Titan strike
That was mine. Yeah, it was a gun. Yeah
Because I I play I do I was following along with mage because I I do play major retail and I play major classic
Yeah, completely different play styles and what I'm getting from you is that like
mop
Cata is very much like
Classic niche and then what we have now is
Yeah, yeah, kind of like how our classic niche and then you built on expansion expansion expansion until you came to most
That was like the peak of every class
When you built the classic way and then what went back reverted like remove some abilities
The pruning of what does people remember and then in Legion they like start over they like
reinvented everything in Legion like Shadow Priest got there when they go into this like void
You know the pressure cooldown is void eruption. They become void and they have
these things
Frostmage had ebon bolt which it wasn't
It wasn't Glacier Spike, but Glacier Spike also got introduced in Legion, but it was
like you pressed it and you guaranteed that you got a proc of these three frost things
that you guaranteed.
And now we've built on the succession of Legion, I guess.
And maybe sometime in the near future it will become a new expansion where they revamp all
the classes and then we will keep building on top of that.
But basically everything we're playing right now is built on top of Legion systems.
I didn't know that.
There you are, you learn something every day with Master Shaken.
One thing, I need to ask you by the way because I know that you're leaving Casting just
a couple of minutes so, you said that it's known throughout the community that the Mythic
Cinematic and the events of the Mythic Raid is canon.
Did that change at some point?
I don't know. I think it has been said since at least Siege of Ogrimmar, I think, or even
before that, because like, back then it was heroic difficulty, but you could only fight
Rod then in Throne of Sunder on heroic. You could only get to Stormwind in the Garrosh
fight on heroic and then in when it became mystic in wad it was the same
thing with like the fight looked very different Archimonde like I said you go
into twisting nether with Archimonde on mystic but you don't do that on the
other difficulties so it's like I don't know when they've stated that but they
have for sure stated that publicly. I wonder what when it changed then because I
I feel like, and maybe they did it because they want to make it more accessible to everybody
so that people can get the whole story without going to mythic, but I just remember the mythic
Gul'dan fight gave you that cinematic with Illidan and there was that whole like, everyone
in the community was just exploding about it like, oh my god, Illidan's bow, oh my god,
oh my god.
And I had to watch the cinematic for this and I was my introduction to the raceful first
and I had to watch it because it, yeah it was the number one team at a time who saw it
for the first time. But then if you look nowadays, we kind of get the final cinematic from whichever
difficulty we go in. Like literally, Midnight Falls was cleared yesterday, so we got a first look
at the end of the cinematic, the end of this patch, like the end of the wrap up of the story,
not the end-to-end, but the wrap up of this, like, Vinnie Arc, and that's just normal. So
they must have at some point made that transition and be curious to figure out
when they did that but yeah okay interesting well shaking thank you very
much for all your intellectual insights and opinions of course no flame I love
sharing my opinion but yeah we're gonna be joined now chat by cyber in just the
hot second but uh yeah chat say goodbye to shakin we'll see you tomorrow love y'all and uh say hello
to cyber for me bye baby i'm just i'm just at some point i'm like preparing a scoot over and just
I'm going to get out. Get out. Yeah, I guess that works. Oh no, it's Sai. Hi, I didn't know
you were behind there. That's crazy. Were you been in that bookshelf this whole time?
You should really feed him.
I mean that guy's gonna be thirsty and hungry.
I give him enough.
Am I stuck?
I think so.
She's gonna wait in it.
Alright.
Well, we're back in a new run.
Mystic Split number three.
Okay, so an hour from now.
They were a little bit faster in this one.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, we did it like 52 minutes or something.
Mmm, okay.
From pull of first boss to pull of first boss.
Ooh.
We're speeding up.
Okay, okay, okay.
So like the time would be is two o'clock.
Have they already taken lunch?
Yes, they did that at 11.30.
The whole time?
yeah so 1130 to 12 and then they started me six splits so we did uh yeah we've done two runs now
and now we're starting the third one and we're at two o'clock so a little bit faster than one hour
per split kind of yeah i love it i love a 10 30 a.m lunch i say that and we're wiping on the first
boss so maybe maybe we're changing that huh oh geez we're just looking really dapper by the way
with that jumper, sporting a nice little shirt,
with a peek at the car there.
He's looking very, very presentable, very smart.
I'm not sure if this is his usual attire, but yeah,
he's looking, looking kind of cool.
Professional for his mythic splits.
Probably boys and girls?
Yeah, it must be.
I mean, they're getting up at like,
I'll say 5am.
I mean, I think a lot of these people are a little bit
roll out of bed start playing yeah yeah my time's probably like five five thirty
first start at six when you gotta serve customers in evanescent three of a
race to world first in that eight yeah I see it I said he's got it he's got to
serve those Colin the cat and fellows man I can't believe he's dressed like
out and playing but uh i mean maybe he finds it comfortable who knows who knows
oh those Percy pigs yeah oh i got to change the subject but i had some banging
M&S christmas desserts we support all supermarkets on the first of all first but
personally i had some banging M&S christmas desserts they were like they were like these acorn
No pine cones made out chocolate and in the middle it was like chocolate mousse
He cracked it open. It was like a cream egg, but with mousse was so good
We support all the nun
Yeah, I don't know what MNS is so
Marksons Farks
It's your top tier supermarket. It's like where all the posh boys go like
Daddy's trust fund type people
I was surprised when I moved from Sweden to Norway that they changed the names of stuff,
you know, and then like one thing is the same. Otherwise it's different. Like what? Over here
we have Koop that we also have in Sweden and then it's Bremar Tönsson and Meny. Those are
like the big ones these brands like supermarket brand places super market
here and then in Sweden it's cool fan Ikea those are the big ones coop co-co-op
basically like it's like a cooperation company see we have a co-op I'm curious
if it's the same co-op or fits but no we also have coop like COOP and the logo is
green that one is probably the same but then we have like oh yeah we have Aldi
and little and we have Lidl as well but like sure we're supporting all of them
but everyone knows Lidl it's like a little bit of a meme you know it doesn't
it's not one of the big brands it's like hey it was nice that when we're
at least I'm so sorry to be missing Sweden yeah that's true
I don't think this has a big as big of a market share as a coupon Ikea though
Ikea is probably the biggest I'm assuming but yeah shaking you you're
losing our our sponsor little the future sponsor
yeah i mean norway i'm gonna be honest most of my
shopping is done at jama susan and mini mini mini yeah it's a menu but in
norway too cute and there's a there's a little not
that far away from week camp so it was like a home away from home
guys, you know, they don't have Tesco, Azda, St. Paris,
Martins, Amnes, Waitrose, they have Lidl. Lidl is nice.
Trusting German food in Lidl.
Someone said Siri Gross, but I'm assuming it was just like a
miss, miss typing, but it means City Cross. That's also
true. City Cross is another brand, but they're not as
common.
We've got a really like international chat here. Wait,
chat, where are you from?
Yeah, Sweden represent, let's go!
We got two Brits on the cast right now, so like you two to one.
Oh, three to one.
Oh, look at all those Scandinavians represent.
Oh yeah, actually, hold on, they're all quite alive.
Look at them, go!
Oh, we have someone from NA!
Yeah, too many Germans.
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Two people.
Scotland!
I do a bangin Scottish accent.
What's a UK piece?
There is, there is.
But what in the UK about living in Sweden?
Do you see the...
This is Brick of Sweden.
Been in here representing Sweden the whole time.
Being a UK one from the start.
Yeah.
That's like, ooh, got a bad spawn.
And then they're like, gotta fix it.
they took the clip and they posted it all over reddit
so there's really annoying reddit ads that you see i was one of them at one point
understandable
it was a not quite as though
yeah yeah crazy life of an influencer
this is the absolute banging content you guys get
when we expected that would be swapped out eight minutes ago
so yeah do you just want to like yap sigh
oh yeah i could play you yeah yeah
oh oh god what's this in my head
well sigh is here with us just just play it
he is here we are crazy yeah he's here we look we see him sipping his sipping
his teeth saying he's a voice in our heads okay all right he's saying the
most profanity things right now chat honestly he's he's being I can't believe
what he's saying of camera that's kind of crazy so you can't see that whoa
relax that's crazy he's playing with them guys he's playing with shake and
shake he's blushing can you see can you see he's going red
yeah exactly
a little bit of flirting get you a long way
from you know what though true true though and they don't even know what I'm
I'm truing too, you know?
Yeah, it's true.
This is what it's like being on Discord with people and you're streaming it and they just
can't hear Discord.
Just having this conversation with this invisible voice.
Yeah, meaning God insane voice and insane.
Crazy?
That was crazy once.
I'm not even hearing.
in here you've been talking to yourself for two hours
rich oh no really it's just a standard day then tell you about my plasterer if
you want it why is that it's a man that comes in your house sticks fix things on
Laugh a word.
Shut up, Sai.
Oh, naughty boy.
Well, since production is now here, I think it's time for me to find another lead.
Oh!
I'm still here!
Hahahahaha!
You are stuck forever!
Woo! The trio.
We're like Neo-political ice cream!
This is my pun I thought for missing that thing.
You know the brand.
Yeah, I'm just getting up and leaving.
Yeah, Napoleon ice cream. I'm brown.
shaking this pink and your vanilla brown chocolate what am I on about chocolate
I'm brown yeah nice nice nice sigh no shake it right that's how UK do their
sauces you know brown and brown sauce and red sauce except for white sauce that's
It's different.
Anyway, time to leave shaking.
Go about your day.
Be free, my child.
I'm just going to leave.
Swim away.
All right.
Well, can I just leave?
What happens if I press leave?
Find out.
Find out.
I'm alive.
Fakins gone.
We saved him.
He can now go and live his life and be free.
Rage, hi.
Hello, Si!
It was lovely chatting to you when Spring couldn't hear me, actually.
But now, chat, unfortunately, you're going to be blessed by my voice.
You have to listen to me, unfortunately.
Um, yeah.
I'm here.
Hello.
Welcome.
This is our first official cast in eight days.
Yeah, we had that.
We had the unofficial cast, didn't we?
Yeah, yeah, we had the unofficial.
Yeah, which was two hours of all dude. I was not feeling good that day. Like I don't
Yeah, you're feeling better now so much better so much better. I was um, yeah, I was not okay
I was not myself. I was white knuckling myself through that shift and then when you left and
Skow came in I managed another 15 minutes before I
Excuse myself, and I was I was like I can't I can't do this anymore. I was so ill
I'm fine.
So, yeah, I would, you know, I get it.
You wanted to cast with me, got rid of me, then let's go out to jump in.
I get it.
I get it.
Yeah, obviously, yeah.
Like, I, you're the best castor to cast with in the whole world.
Something like that.
Something like that.
It's been said by you, only just now.
To Vitcher.
Thanks, Rage.
Yeah, I'm glad you're feeling better now.
What was happening is that the splits were weighing down on you like all the heroic runs
They were they were weighing you down and they were making you sick, but now
Thankfully, it's Wednesday. Yeah, and we're in
Hold on. Are we in split? Oh wait. No, we're still in splits. Just kidding. Haha. Haha. So haha April Fools
Yeah, that was a split though. I've seen some
I've seen some bits going on. I've seen some bits going on. We are we haven't even like mythic
I can't actually, I'm thinking this is still Mythic now, right?
This is Mythic Splits Reclear.
Mythic Splits Reclear, version 2 final edit.
Version 3, this is version 3.
This is version 3, okay.
Yeah, yeah, version 4 soon.
Have we known sort of the rough plan with today, like how it's been going?
Because I've been at work today, so I like got back from work
and then I was checking out Beloran,
the other Laura both on heroic so I can actually see what they look like a little bit. I saw
him a little bit last night but not too much and then I was checking out some mythic alleria
because I actually didn't see the whole of alleria prog like here's it's just gone I've just
yeah you were out on Friday as well weren't you like yeah yeah I completely missed it as well
like we were here for Wednesday Thursday and then nothing really happened there was you know they
probed the first few bosses and it was all kind of one shot. Friday was Paladins and then Paladins
was down and Lyria was down. It was like everything happened on Friday. I think we're back in the
splits. And then we're back in the splits but looking at uh so I know that like there was a bunch
of tuning last night and it looked like heroic so they did the same thing with Lyria as they've
done with Laura. You think they would have learned in the last seven days but they they didn't um
But there was an issue with scaling, where if you took 30 players into Illyria or Laura then the damage was just jank, it was a bit wonky, so you're taking increased damage from some spell effects for being 30 players.
So it was like the anti-splits, which maybe Blizzard should do more of that, maybe that will discourage splits.
if you just, if you take 30 players to a raid, then your PC explodes, which luckily we have
scan to replace them. But, you know, maybe that's the, maybe that's where we get around it. But
yeah, so we sort of, they were like well tuned. That's kind of ouchy though, because I like, I
raid with 30 people. I don't want my PC to explode every time I go into a raid, man. That's, I get
like anti-split measure, but also, we end up having to like split our raid into two
raid teams. Yeah, you take like four players into a raid at a time and that would be it,
and you just 10 men raid and that would be a split, so you do a thousand of them in a week.
So they, I know that when Liquid stepped into Heroic yesterday with Lura, they said that there
there was a book with the puzzle game when they were lining up the puzzles and
Luria was doing the big beam to sweep across like it's basically you know I
I don't know if you've ever played this is such a unique reference but Mary Kay
and Ashley sweet 16 license to drive on the PlayStation 2 yeah and I've got the
the second one that they all I knew you were the type to play that I could just
tell by your pink hat.
I've got a thousand miles.
A thousand miles, I mean.
That's impressive.
There was this memory game on the phone, right,
where you had to press like triangle x square circle
in the correct order.
And that's kind of what Lura's memory game is.
You have, except instead of triangle x square circle,
you've got triangle circle, diamond, insert other cape here.
And so you bind them up.
And then the big beam sweeps across after a couple seconds.
and it kind of locks in the order, right?
That was, that was, I like that animation.
Yeah, whoa!
That's the beam, that's the real thing.
They'll always remember that now.
Big beam comes, locks in the order.
But what was happening was that, say,
like the second shape in the order was getting exploded
before the beam had even touched it.
And Max was saying, like, he was replaying it
with Canada over and over again,
and he was like, this is literally a bug in the mechanic.
And I couldn't see anything else
was maybe triggering it I thought maybe it was like damage or the player was dying or something
like that but it looked like a bug so I'm curious if they've if that was actually legitimately a bug
and if they fix it or if it's still it's still active um I don't even know if heroic lura in
my form has been downed yet what on heroic yeah yeah yeah yeah so it must have been fixed
Yeah, they I yeah, yeah, they definitely killed it because I watched it killed. I'm pretty sure I watched the kill Paul
I'm 99% sure but now that you said that now that's gonna be thinking maybe I made it up. No, I'm pretty sure hold on
There'll be
Let's open up the logs
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely definitely done on heroic 100% there are some logs on there
So that it did get fixed I think what they did is they went and did a bit of like they did a bit of
Lura and then realized that it was bugged in the middle, but interestingly on the mechanic that you're talking about
it the the sort of the five
Sigils and the beam so
Something that happens is like they were yelling like and again
It's really fun because we just have to talk about NA perspective because we're behind like behind a day
So we're we're getting we're like always in the past, right?
being in EU so we we have to reference NA a little bit here but they what was
cool is like they when the sigils were coming up Max and people would just be
like alright everyone memory game shut up stop talking and you see everyone
really focused now what I thought that they were potentially doing they put
markers down on the ground because some of the markers correspond to the
actual like shapes of raid markers that we have access to so initially what I
thought they were doing is I thought they were giving like I thought maybe
Maybe they've got some kind of a weak or attack or something that's telling them the order
if they get assigned.
And that's why they're saying shut up, because it's like getting called that way.
And then I thought maybe they're just allowing people the time to concentrate and like, okay,
figure it out, then diamond, then triangle, like, which one did I get?
But I think ultimately what they're actually just doing is just putting the world markers
down to just reset all the world markers.
just as you see the boss do it you just put them down. Yeah so like a raid leader is doing it.
Yeah. Well like a player somebody in the so I don't know somebody in the probably a tank
right and you can even assign each tank to like do a couple of a meet and while you know three each
I think there's like five um so a couple each whatever um and so you could like because you
you can just place them down as the boss starts cycling through them.
Yeah. And then everybody can just go and stand on a marker.
So it's not really a memory game.
It's a raid marker placement game.
So what Blizzard should do is ban raid markers being moveable in combat.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Because why like, why would you need it?
It should be a, they should, they should actually have somebody watching you
watch your PC and say, are you actually remembering these?
Yeah.
You need to remember them.
Yeah.
You know, I am kind of glad that Weakor has gone out the window
because it makes me think of similar but different,
but like terms of memory is a miss of tear in a scythe.
You know, we had like the, we had to figure out the sigils,
right?
And we had to figure out the old one out, basically.
When you had a Weakor, you should just
had the older party members stand by the door to make this a deal with it. And then the
weak order just goes, that one, and then you just like go through that door. I was really
upset when my guildies started using it because it just meant that the fun was over. Like there
was no more, there was no more like minions with time. It was like a rush, rush, rush,
rush, rush. We have a weak order to figure out, use the weak order at the end. And so
it just took a way that mechanic entirely. And yeah, I don't know, I kind of sucked.
But there's an end boss of Nexus. You know the Nexus point? The guy with the horns.
So that has kind of been repeated. It's like an odd one out. Like figure out which one
it is, this ball. And that one's really fun because I don't know if there is a weak aura
to solve it. In theory, there shouldn't be because we've got another weak aura, but
then we also... In theory, yeah. In theory, we got rid of weak auras. On paper we did.
Yeah, on paper we did. Oh, actually, no. Did you see that bleepost?
Yeah, I didn't know I've heard about it a little bit
Doc mech was talking about it the the little April Fool's shot at week or is
Kind of funny potentially inappropriate. Are you kidding me? But yeah, very funny. Yeah
It's kind of it's kind of joke on blizz rather than joke on us
To be honest, but yeah, you guys didn't see it basically there was a blizzard blue post saying that
Recourses now back in the in the game and of course it was April Fool's because it's April first today
Happy April.
But yeah, and it feels really good, like when you manage to find the boss like pretty much straight away, that is the one that you need to kick.
I had a moment of it last night when my gildies were, we were running a, I think it was like a 9 or a 10.
And literally the guy spawned in front of me so I kicked him and then my gildie was like,
Wow, that was so quick and I was like
Because I'm a good and it's like those feel good moments. They got taken away with me for us. So yeah, yeah
I was gonna say this is a boss here where speaking of quick kicks. Oh, yeah, boss where they've kind of done a quick kick thing
But we like my girl, I think we use
What do we use northern sky
Northern Sky Raid Tools or something like that.
Yeah, NSRT, we use that and it like tells you don't,
like wait, it just puts an icon and they might be using,
yeah, I think they are using something.
We were like, tell you like, don't kick, don't kick.
Okay, kick and it'll turn green.
So we've been using that,
but I've also just been using my eyes
and that's been very helpful as well.
So I've just been trying to opt in for that.
So here we go, yeah, you see big red square
and then you see green square.
So that's what method is using here on the mythic Sal Hadar, because the mythic mechanic
here obviously, chat, is that you do have all the adds to kick, but you can only kick
them one at a time, like, in order to, like, every add is like an un-CC-able, but then
you have to go sequentially through them, and then it, like, as you kick one mob, it
allows the other ones to, the other one to be kicked, and then you just cycle through,
Yeah, so it's like people are getting ways around it to not have to use their eyes to their full capabilities
But I like using my eyes when I can I do too. I feel like I'm an eye enjoyer
I'm a brain enjoyer
So when I see when I see things like that, I just think oh
It's not like I get it
Like if one person does it they all have to do it because of why is your head disadvantage?
But I just think like if you could just not do it in the first place
That would be kind of cool because then you're playing the game the way the developers develop the game
The way that nature intended, you know. Yeah, like the way that the mechanic like Korea has intended you to play and do the mechanics
I know that you can by the way as a top tip. Yeah
You can also put on this mark of the last boss of Nexus so that you can see which one is bold or not and
If you're a demon hunter you can use petrol site apparently to see
all
You can just use your eyes.
I like to do I like to get my mouth.
I three sixty nose open just tab in one again.
And what nature intended.
So I did see this clip from Nate, right?
He he was in like a plus 14 or something.
He leaped into the pack and as a warrior,
did some a we kick and blew up the right
blew up the dungeon like full on like his party just went boom.
And that's what's gone viral. It's got quarter of a million views. Oh, wow
Goodness me. I
People are gonna be doing that in our groups then. Yeah, basically my mate
Yeah, thanks to me. Yeah
You did it on your Pali tank. Oh, no
I wonder if I can do that with like in cap roll
Maybe as a druid and maybe I can do that to my friends as well because I like to get them killed
I play a fun game with them where whenever I play my priest one of them gets PI
but the deal is I will randomly leap a faith them throughout the dungeon so
like yes you're getting the benefit of PI but I might grip you behind a wall
during the cool nails so it's like you know it is the kiss curse and added in
additional I think so I like to see where I can get him killed so that's a new
one I'll use thank you yeah you're so welcome I think yeah I think I might
try and do sigil chains or sigil assignments on them as well
How can we just blow the key on the final hurdle?
How can you troll?
I feel like DPS have had such a great, like such an array of possibility of trolling the
party and trolling your friends and stuff, but like as a tank, I feel like if I trolled
the raid, people are going to get annoyed at me, like, oh, they can swap blast me and
throw me off the building and the bridge and everything like that but heaven forbid I use
the dragon beam to blow up the raid and fear everyone oh I'm the bad guy sounds like they're
if they're throwing you off buildings that might qualify as as a abusive behavior so
you probably report that yeah yeah yeah yeah I would have thought it's the opposite I would
thought as a tank you can get away with a lot. Like I'll never flame a tank. Like um somebody
in my group the other day tried was like trying to flame the tank for something and I was like
brother you are sitting there pressing like I don't know frozen all but whatever I can remember
class they play. Like brother like just chill okay this dudes they're working the the heart out a
little heart out here to thank for us. Nobody wants a tank nobody wants to do it it's a thankless job
when you get it when you do it well everyone just goes like gg's and then when you do it poorly
people get very angry at you so i i always like to look out for the tanks you know thank you sigh
thank you yes maybe i'll have you in my key then maybe maybe i'll think about it i've heard that
you apparently put the dragon beam through the raid so you i don't know i'm thinking about it
i'm thinking about it and you just told me about how you're gonna schedule a change on the last
boss of our Nexus Point and try and get everyone killed so that's also I'm gonna think about
that one too. I also don't target people that have been taken by the Griffin and hit someone.
Griffin? Batman. Not Batman. There is no Batman. The bat. The people who get taken by the bat and
then you have to go and like save them. Do you just let him drop? Oh yeah. What about Skyreach
last boss same thing. Oh it's so great it's like you're the sacrifice yeah oh look at me
I'm the sacrifice of the way you go. At least they can do that one set of cooldowns you know
they've got time yeah yeah have a cooldown window as they just get um yeah as they get thrown off.
We'd be free my child go on you're free go. Fate has chosen. That's what the battle res is for.
Yeah, exactly. Oh, that rule of if you pull it you tank it. I don't know if you saw this
side but recently on Twitter there was a viral tweet that somebody made saying you should
be going as fast as your tank is going. If you pull it you tank it. And I think there
was a quote tweet that had the same amount of likes that was like this is a really stupid
like there was so much uproar on my twitter of people being for and against it and wow that
sounds exactly like twitter 50% of people think you're an idiot 50% of people think that you're
right on the money sounds fun but yes and and what are you thinking about that all right well
Well, I'm for the, if you pull it, you can't get it.
Yeah, I think I am as well.
Sometimes I will pull things onto the group for my tank
and then I'll use defensive tools to then not die.
Like I'll use Fade from on my pre...
So like pull him in, then Fade, let my tank pick him up, then problem.
Do you agree? I think that maybe you're like...
It's just a hypothetical situation.
But maybe your tank doesn't pull that extra add or that extra pack or that extra set of mobs because they don't have the defensive utility to live.
Well, in my experience, if they've been pulling two mobs of time for the whole bunch and they've got many defenses available, then maybe potentially saving them for the next expansion.
So I can just help them out a little bit.
it. Try out like, look, you want to have a reason to use these
defensives. Like I can track my tanks defensives, you know, I
can see them with box skin up or something. I'll pull some mobs
in real sneaky, I'll blow my cooldowns, mobs are dead, no
problem. No, it is an interesting concept though,
because there is like the there is the whole thing of yeah, go at
your tank's pace, which is fair. And depending on your
environment, that's absolutely correct. If you're in like a
plus two or something like, yeah, just let the tank figure it
out. Maybe this is their first time taking ever. You want to foster an environment where
we have more tanks. This is why I never flame my tanks unless they flame me. So if it does
happen, I am a flammable. I'm not retarded. Wait, are you retarded? Yeah. So I do get
flame from time to time. But because you need we need to like we need more tanks in the game so
we can all get into more content. So it's like if you can support them and like and stuff like
that, I think that's really good. So yeah, I'll never I generally will follow that rule with
the tank of like, let them pull, let them dictate the run and stuff. But when I go in tank, I like
in my guild, we have something we call side pulls, which is just me pulling as much as I
possibly can at every single poll and I find the limit of my own survivability on a bear.
And my team will be dying around me, but I'm surviving, so I'm having a good time.
I don't know if they like it or not.
Yeah, I think I might have those side polls too. I had one literally yesterday. I have a screenshot.
um maybe maybe production can potentially pull it up i don't know but i have a screenshot
searching locating send it over okay cool yeah this was the same nexus by the way
where i was pulling what i was pulling based on the the percentage that i thought i needed and then
the the Pali was like oh you need this pack here and then pulled it on to me but i didn't have any
defensives for this pack so we were just kind of like okay um and as you can see that's not getting
clubbed yeah yeah boob boob boob boob like i was fine but um yeah i see everyone else is far away
for me. Yeah, everyone else is kind of dead. I also see maybe one production
raise it up. What key point to look at chat is the 18 minutes remaining on the
key and one boss down. So what did you time it? Yeah, we fussed to do it. Okay.
Oh, okay. Okay. I thought it was like, I thought it was gonna be a tight one. I was
I was like, oh, did you marry him?
But okay.
Yeah, cause he literally just go up that road.
Like, go up the road, go up the road, go up the road.
Yeah, go up the road, pull the bus.
But it's easy.
The left side has got less moms than the right side,
or at least it feels that way.
So yeah, we just went to the top, killed that guy,
and then you just get teleported back.
Yeah, it was really quick.
I love Nexus.
It's like my favorite.
Yeah, you like it?
I can't figure out that one's like the section again
production freedom up chat, but I can't figure out that one
Component of the dungeon is like that how you're actually supposed to do that pulls
I've just thought actually hold on I was like because I've not actually seen this boss on mythic
I've just realized on screen like I forget we are on split, but it's still interesting to me
I've not I've not actually seen us do this do this boss on mythic. I've seen my guild do it, but
But maybe we can chat a little bit about this real quick before the picture comes up.
So this is Mythic, Veilgore and Azrak and everybody was thinking that it was going to
be a little bit more difficult than it's ended up being.
Yeah.
How come we didn't grip those orbs, interesting, okay.
Okay.
In normal, they also get grips, right?
In normal and heroic, they also like, yeah, collect up, but in Mythic they don't, but
we've got the blood decays, or at least one blood decay.
I don't know, quite some prop, Halle.
So, yeah, actually, oh, maybe it could have been uncool
on it then.
I don't know if you have it for every single set
because later into the fight, they spawn quite quick.
So maybe we have for this set.
But then, this is speaking of tanks and everything,
this really is a tank fight, isn't it?
And it feels like Blizzard's given us
a few of those this tier.
Do you like having the tank, like the sort of activities to do as a tank?
Do you like having a bit of responsibility?
I hate just the fights like Varacius, which is kind of just like stand there,
deal hooky bogey, step in a puddle, out puddle, in a puddle, out puddle, like that.
I'm not a fan of that.
This one's fun.
It's fun to figure out because the the darker dragon, you've got a tail whip.
So you got a watch where you put his bum.
But then he's also got the fear beam.
that's like, not the fear beam, sorry, the, um, the blasted beam, the nasty beam.
Null beam?
Yeah, Null beam, that's it.
That, that goes towards you and you have to make sure that you step out of it
once it's blasted and you're going to make sure you're going to put it in the
raid. And then with the other dragon, you've got a really big responsibility
of firing the, the sphere, the bloom. Yeah. The gloom.
And then everyone has to soak the gloom.
So yeah, it's a nice responsibility.
And then also good, good point.
Here it is.
Dragons on top of each other.
That's the other thing, is that there's the loot.
You can't have the dragons on top of each other.
However, you technically can.
Like technically you can't.
Has to be within, it has to be 15 yards between them.
But technically you can, but technically you can't.
Yeah, like physically you can.
Technically you can't.
15 yards between them.
What about metaphysically?
Oh, that's a whole other game, you know?
I'm gonna need to agree for that.
Sociopolitically, can the dragons be together?
They can be.
also they can also be these dragons are driving up the oil prices I think if you take them too
close together see look at this look they're literally right on top of each other but the
hitbox that the point of measure starts from the very middle because the hit points is the hitbox
is huge I was measured from the base but yeah okay they are measuring with that called the bit yeah
anyway um so they are literally inside each other but yeah so you can do this especially
and yeah because like on heroic and normal it's like get them away get them away get away but on
mythic yeah they're uh we want to clean you yeah yeah because if they if you don't cleave when you're
at this level then you're losing out all that damage and it just extends the fight really
unnecessarily so the tanks have got a really um like intricate I guess responsibility to make sure
that these dragons are enough a part that they don't trigger the buff but enough together so that
But yeah, I do, yeah, but P3 this is now, but like there were also this far apart in
P2 if you looked, but yeah, I do think that tanking in this raid is really fun.
I'm gonna have to say it though, I don't think Lura's gonna be a good fight for tanks.
Like...
Oh is it not very fun?
Oh!
Goodbye.
Explosion there?
Oh are they gonna have this?
Oh no, we had a few deaths here, I do, it does feel like...
the last bloom is what it gets a little bit spicy because you're kind of on some fumes
there but I can't see the dragon help okay it's up like 4% 8% or is it oh no no that's
energy yeah 3% 2% they should have this they should have enough in this they could probably
just tunnel the bosses now not have to focus there is a voidal just casting you can see
here in the chain casting this is a couple of them actually so they might be just obliterating
the team but one percent one of the dragons is down four million hp is the
wipe now goes down boss reset GGs go again oh that's not what we want that's
okay it's just a minor setback but oh that's okay well we can see P1 and P2
again side yeah but yeah Lura doesn't seem like it's an exciting fight for
tanks kids I don't know like I went into it yesterday in big DL watching at least
it was just the normal and kill but it just doesn't look fun it you have you
have the the windmill basically where you have to rotate the boss around so
there's that yeah it looks like the tanks at least a normal take two hits of
lance and then you swap yeah okay and that's kind of like it's seeing everything
else though fascinating for the boss you know with the with the crystals you got
to pick up and then the memory game and then like pointing the the blasters to
to the warbs in that phase when they go down like oh such a cool fight but not
for tanks. Yeah, I'm trying to think of it from a tank perspective now because it is interesting
when you do see these fights for the first time, I kind of just like I go macro level and I just
look at it in general like how is everyone responding to like how is the what are the
mechanics of like what's the flow of the fight before I even then get into like individual
responsibility of things across like I don't even see how many dispels there are if there's anything
like that and you know whatever else healers have to be like managing with healer cooldowns and
all that sort of stuff I just I just don't I just look at it as like how do the mechanics flow so
I hadn't actually thought about it but yeah you do have the responsibility for the seeds which do
look really interesting um I think production's got this picture though ready that you that you
want to get off it all right one of that from 10 minutes ago yeah cast your lines back chat
we were talking about side polls so this is my version of a side poll um oh see
Leia oh we're back yay so I pulled I only pulled like three packs um and I
was fine you can see like I I had used um meta um everything else is up so I was
standing there for a little bit trying to figure out what happened but every
has died. Fillion must have wanted to pull the extra stuff.
Couple ping. Oh wait, did Doomcraze die? Oh I love doing that one as well.
Yeah, so Fillion died and then Banana died which is Doomcraze, our healer, and then Rich was like
meh meh meh meh meh meh. And then our DK died and then Rich died but that's okay
because Rich didn't kick for the entirety of this dungeon so not a problem there.
Um, but yeah, it was it was an interesting poll to say the least. I genuinely have no idea
how they died. Um, I had all the aggro. I was kicking out. I had the most kicks in this entire
dungeon, by the way. Like I had to literally, I was on discord with them and I was like, boys,
you have an interrupt. Use it. Whoa. Like I, I, like I was so not annoyed, but I'm like, I feel
I feel like I'm the mother hen, I'm the guild master, or the guild mistress I guess you could call me.
And so, I lay the law down, and if you come to my dungeon, you will use your interrupt button, and fair enough-
Are you getting more and more posh as you get through this?
Yeah!
If you come to my dungeon, you will use an interrupt.
You will, you will. You will not be granted an invite, unless you utilize your interrupt button.
And fair play to Rich, he didn't have his warlock put out, apparently that's the only way he can kick.
Unless he has an aunt.
Okay, but that doesn't disregard Philean and Extrudes and Extrudes does a lot of keys
So like he should know better some calling you both out right now
You know again
The thing is the mana batteries right because like I think some of the ads if you tank them near these like pylons
They get supercharged. This is like I don't know this bit
I don't know this area of the dungeon. I don't really quite understand what the mechanics are and then I just
just I just freestyle it every single time so it's good fun by the way congrats to
Greg's for their whole theme hi there is not the Greg's love you sausage rolls
we love Greg's oh I could do with a Greg's right now man oh but you can also
see my fel beam man thingy my debuff there has six minutes left so at some
point I'm not saying that I'm completely innocent because at some point I did
died. So yeah, who knows? It's a plus nine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
And hopefully no more wipes here with the with veil veil gore and as a right so it like with
reclearing you can have a few little hiccups here now. I didn't get to see enough of what
killed the whole group. Our POV that we had at the time. I don't know if it was still
preppy that we were on previously but it was so they went and soaked the gloom and then a few
people started dying to soaking the gloom it's I really like this fight on mythic I think it's
really really cool I don't like it so much I'm normal because the fear frontal gets faced on the
raid every every single time no it doesn't have an emitting but just the players actually have
have their eyeballs switched on so they move it away but on normal people just AFK in the
raid with the fear every time. But I like this with the gloom so they have to go in and soak
the gloom and what you're trying to do chat is get the orb to go from purple to well I don't know
if they even bother getting it to blue on the thing when you fully saturated the soaks it'll
turn to blue but I think they're just a set number so it might be like five players or so
that they'll have go and soak the gloom orb and that reduces the sort of the AOE effect
like that that is left lingering when it hits the wall. So your seed players go and soak that,
but they have to be um, some more sporadic or spaced out with the actual soaking of the orb
because you pulse some damage around you when you soak it, but it's kind of cool. I kind of like it,
it just it's like a bowling and then they become the pins, but they're like running after the bowling
ball so it's kind of like look you can see him off in the distance now I was just like chasing after
it so I do like that yeah look at it look at him go so that's kind of cool. You can see how close the
the dragons are though like this is uh p2 right? Oh well boss is like low I mean it's like the
I know I wasn't paying attention. You just have like phase one and then you have intermission one
and then you have like phase one but version two yeah or phase one point it's not a 1.5 yeah phase
one again final edition um so this is the intermission here but it's quite static in that regard
I like the layering of mechanics this is something that I really enjoy in um in other MMOs as well
when they sort of as you progress through the fight things get laid on they did this with
the lyria as well with a lot of like the later phase mechanics just occur earlier in the fight
and then we're seeing oh god that breath was scaring me but we see that here with this a little bit
as well where you're getting things occurred during the intermission yeah sort of like the main
phase wow that gloom really hurts when it hits the wall that is mega yeah i like like you said
like i don't i like the fact that it doesn't stop turning like even though we're in an
and the intermission is like traditionally the breather time, it does not stop, it's
like they don't get a rest, you still get that gloom that goes off during the intermission
and you still have to place those orbs and then you still have to get the add down because
you can't carry the add through to the sucker phase or where's it from and like and it's
but then you've also got to make sure that you stay within the yellow holy light and
it's like there's so much going on at once even in a phase that's traditionally themed
as a break.
Yeah.
It's kinda cool.
Yeah.
Take the ad through to the intermission like out of the intermission
But like you say it's problematic because then you just have more like more to deal with more chaos less boss damage
That's going out and then less dimension as to you haven't fixed it on this some of this new prior ad
So yeah, it is it is like kill it quick
Definitely. Yeah, speaking of killing quick. We have six percent left on the boss
So this is going to be a kill and not a wipe and now we will progress on to
Paladins?
What?
Paladins?
Paladins!
I didn't make out what you said.
Oh no trinket!
That's a shame.
But a vault for everybody at least
if this race extends into next week.
Speaking of vault,
anything good for you today?
Have you looked?
I did look and all of my characters
are very happy actually.
I got I got my mythic puzzle box though on my feral and everyone in my guild is mad at me
Congrats, so congrats to me, but I'm also like on the bench outside of the first three in mythic
So it's like who cares might just take socket or something just cuz cuz I don't need it
No, I'll take it
Plus of course. Yes. Yes. Oh, congrats tape also getting the puzzle box
I said this in discord yesterday when I had all my guildies in there and I thought I would get like a oh well done. Oh, that's really good. Good job. No
I said, oh I've maxed out all my guildies in there and I thought I would get like a oh well done. Oh, that's really good. Good job
I said this in discord yesterday when I had all my guildies in there and I thought I would get like a
Oh, well done. Oh, that's really good. Good job. No
Um, I said, ah, I've maxed out my vault
Finally for the first time ever
And I did you not. Yeah, I kid you not three people rolled out in laughter and one person was like
You've only just maxed out your vote and you're a professional world of warcraft player that gets paid to play the game
and I was like, oh
Oh yeah, I just... I don't do all the things. I don't do delves, ever. But I did that. Don't you laugh, Cybert.
No! Don't you do that!
Maybe you have more than one character, but you've just forgotten about them. Like, they're waiting for you to log in on them, but you've just... you've neglected them the way that you've neglected your bowl.
Wow, you've only...
Rage, that's really good. That's really good actually.
Thank you.
That's really good.
Thank you.
Did you get a max level? Like, every slot was full and they were the max possible ones?
No?
Rage, you've never, hold on.
No.
Hold on.
But then I'd have to do loads of tier 11 delves.
Never build a vault even at a low level.
Well, I did last night for the first time.
What's the matter with that?
I don't understand how you had people laughing at you.
That's crazy that people laughed at that.
Rage.
You know it gives you loot, right?
Yes, but I don't see why I have to max it out when, like,
like if I just do like a high level key a couple times and then do raid which I
have which I do all the times I am in a raid group I get like I get at least
four options that's enough I'm not greedy sharing that like saving the loot
for other people I suppose like in the code you know like it can go to a new
home see look look Ellara says I've only ever maxed out my vault like five
times. That's five times more than you. No, that's all times more than me actually.
Actually. She's not wrong, you know. She's not wrong, you know. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. Well, I think actually that's, I get it though, because I've had, I've maxed out my
vault many times and I've had many disappointing experiences with my vault. So maybe if you
only have one item to choose, you can't really be mad at yourself or the game or disappointed.
That is true because I have done that where I've gone to bed quite late before because I'm trying
to get my vault filled on my alt or something and then I'm tired the whole next day at work
or stream or whatever and I open my vault and it's terrible. So yeah and like you know if you're
If you're going to be disappointed, why put the effort into being disappointed in the
first place?
When you can be disappointed naturally.
Yeah!
That's true.
Yeah, you're just like self-advertisement.
I wake up with a residual level of disappointment in myself.
No, I see people all the time that like, oh my loop, you know, my volt was really bad
and oh, I'm like, well, my volt is nice.
Because I don't play the game so it's a guaranteed upgrade.
Literally, yeah!
Um, oh, Sai, we've had a charity donation from 5, 10 dollars, said,
Hey Raging Sai, hello!
Hopefully you see some quelled in us today, please rate my transmog.
Oh, we've got a transmog rate, okay.
We do.
Will we bring it up on stream or is it just for our eyes only?
We'll bring it up on stream.
I will uh share my L screenio and some games.
Thank you so much.
Reduction will do their magic wonders and we'll be able to have a look but yeah.
Dave, thank you very much.
Good time to get your donations in by the way as we're doing Mythic Reclare.
I said this yesterday but yesterday would be the last time for you to get your donations
in and like do rate of transmogs and like the wheel spin and stuff but look I didn't
know there was gonna be another day of mythic flips.
Okay.
Shoot me.
I'm not a professional.
I'm just here for the laugh.
And some heroic splits, Rage.
Oh, yeah, boom.
You would've thought that two weeks of heroic
would've been enough, but no.
We have a third week with heroic.
It's cool and fun and enjoyable, and I love it.
Yeah.
And I hope it continues.
Yeah, yeah, well, if it does continue,
then we get to carry on doing stuff like this, so.
I mean.
True.
Once the race is over, I stop getting paid,
you know what I mean?
So, let's keep this.
Hey.
Let's keep these splits rolling. Let's keep them coming.
Let's go.
Yeah. Yeah. Good points, though, about the vault. That is fair.
I did see Teddl's tweet and it was full caps and he was infuriated by the fact
that he looted a mythic weapon in his vault, even though he'd like crafted a weapon.
And then a bunch of people were like, the pro, you've got the crafted weapon,
like you're chilling, you know?
So it was kind of funny watching that.
Like, yeah, the vault is an interesting one where it's,
where like, you can only be disappointed.
I feel like when you get something good,
you're just like, well, yeah, that's how it should be.
And then, so you're not even happy.
And then you get something bad and you're like, I hate this.
It's like playing a claw machine.
You go in there with like a couple quid
and you put it in the machine and you have a good time
and you don't win, you're like, ah, you win some,
you lose some, but at least I enjoyed myself.
You go in there, you spend 20 quid
and you don't win, you're disappointed.
You feel a little waste.
You feel like you deserved,
you deserve something good and you come out with nothing.
So basically saying like, in life, don't try hard
and you can never be disappointed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rage, I'm gonna ask you right now.
Is this half full or half empty?
No, you don't.
It's so half at all.
I need to refill it, hold on.
I'll ask you again soon.
Hold on.
Okay, now it's fully empty.
Damn, I'll work on that one for next time.
I'll keep a half glass. Is it really empty or just not full? Yeah, it's yeah, is it 100% empty or
0% full? That's the question. Oh, that's the question. Okay, we have multiple photos from
Tabe and I'm not too... Oh, I can click it, never mind. Oh, nice. Nice, nice. Okay, ready production?
Oh, we see it. Brilliant. So this is Tabe's Hunter transmog. Look how cool. So we have the dual pets
outside sparking that like lava theme and they've taken it through the transmog themselves. So
take take a look to get in. Which Windrunner is this? Is this the secret fourth Windrunner perhaps?
the baby windriller yeah I like them I like the pets a lot the total gives me
big nostalgia for um firelands that's why it's a rare that you catch in
firelands mm-hmm so cool um can't really see much of like the transmog
specifically I guess if I try I can't name individual pieces I'm not that good
But ideally it matches up with like that's like the iron horde, you know
Like with the with the pet as well with the wolf like iron horde style where it's like a lot of nickel and lava and red
I really like it. I think I don't I maybe there's a cape that it's like a
There's more like a fire lava cape. Maybe if you could switch it out to that that would fit the moguleth a little bit more
But I do have to say props to you for utilizing the one shoulder transmog
Feature so you don't end up having like both of them on your shoulder. I think you're utilizing that. Yeah, I like to play housing as well
Very nice. Very nice. I think housing
This is play housing is yeah, right?
Yeah, no way. Is it really?
Yeah, you know that play housing it. No, no, I have I just didn't
realize that it could look like that. Does yours look bad? Have you not complete your housing
vaults for the week, Rage? No, do you want to see mine real quick? I show. I show. Yeah,
I think the Raiders are like prepping for their next split or something so we probably
have a sec that we can uh... Oh wow! Yeah, I put all these little trees so like this is
my tree this is my trees are expensive as well like this number of slots my tree my tree my tree my
tree my tree my tree my tree all of these my tree everything like what I get I get complimented on
in my housing is that people don't realize that the landscape is actually in my zone they think
it's part of I feel like you've not realized that the house is part of your zone wait why
because you've got you got a lot of trees and you don't have a whole lot of
house is to be honest it's not about the size it's about what I do with it and if
you look inside it's pretty good is it yeah is it is it more of a more of a
tortoise yeah it's like a whole cave in there okay yeah that's pretty cool
actually that is pretty cool yeah I I also I went for like one of those night
elf packs, uh, well, it wasn't a pack, but like there was a website, like a housing database
or whatever, and you could find out where to get all the housing things and housing, housing DB,
yeah, something like that. And, uh, it was really, really cool. I'm looking forward to the import
codes that you can have because I'm not very good at like, I don't have the patience to have
everything lined up perfectly. I just, I have a rough idea of what I would maybe want it to look
like but I'm not very imaginative and you know those people I think the people that are best at
decorating things are the people that know when enough is enough and I feel like I'm one of those
people I'm like oh I'll just keep adding more cool things yeah a bunch of cool stuff doesn't make
something look good sometimes you need to be a little bit more minimalistic perhaps yeah yeah yeah
Yeah, I I I agree with you. I think that the people take a lot of time combining elements of
Housing as well together to create something else entirely so being able to import that is gonna be super cool
Yeah, just to bring it back tape. Thank you very much for the donation and for
Lending us rate your transmog which we need to give it a rate out of 10 side. What do you think?
I mean it fits a theme, it's not a full set, therefore I'm gonna give it, I like the pets,
I know the ethics go to get the rare, I'm gonna give it, I'll give it a 7, I'll give
it a 7.
Oh, okay.
I'll give it a 7.
But okay.
I still think that, yeah like you say, maybe there's like a bit more you could do, make
it a bit more like plashy but I think it fit the theme well so I'll give it like a seven.
Yeah that's fair, that's fair. I would give it an eight.
Oh an eight? Okay, yeah I'd be like it. Okay, okay we'll take an eight.
We'll take an eight. Oh my god! What? What happened?
Chow look! We're in the new raid, the final raid.
Nice, all we need to do is just show housing and transmom, so they carry out, they get a kick at the bum.
Look at this!
As our raiders float to the ground.
Oh wow, we're actually gonna see some heroic, which is a terrible time, um, for me.
Uh, but I, we're gonna, we're gonna power through. I'm gonna, we're gonna do some, is this normal heroic?
That's what I need to decipher. It's easy to tell between heroic and mythic because there's either 20 or 30.
I would imagine this is heroic.
Is you?
What are you, fucks again?
I can't see, maybe chat can actually look better than we can our, hold on.
Maybe production can like, it's like someone in the production network knows, because they will have been, because the other question is if this is just Gildy's only, and from what I can see in the raid group it does look like Gildy's only.
Yeah. It is guilty zone layer. Maybe they just they're going straight, straight, straight to heroic.
Well, straight to mythic. Hold on. What if they go straight to mythic? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Wait.
Well, they have 25, 26, 27, 28 people.
Yeah. I know they've got that amount of people physically in the raid group, but I was seeing how many people are actually inside the raid.
You know what I mean? Like, maybe they had a bunch of people in the group, but not everyone was actually inside.
But yeah, no, this is heroic. This is normal or normal. Yeah, it's non mythic
But it is interesting because echo echo were the first team to actually do mythic
They are the first team to jump into mythic, I believe. Yeah. Yeah
Liquid went dark
At some point yesterday, I think people were saying or echo went dark somebody went dark
I don't remember who.
Echo turned off their logs and Liquid went dark.
Or Echo turned off, Echo went dark and Liquid turned off their logs.
Something happened.
I don't know.
Either way, we have limited knowledge, but that's about to change because we're actually
going to be able to see now our raiders going to God and ask them to actually talk about
the raid first, so we can talk about them.